| 00:00.02 | aestil | and solarian is not hard. |
| 00:00.04 | buu | Probably not |
| 00:00.04 | Arrowmaster | solarian? |
| 00:00.08 | buu | But we have tards blowing us up |
| 00:00.11 | buu | So we have to keep it quick. |
| 00:00.18 | Arrowmaster | solarian is a fucking loot pinata |
| 00:00.22 | buu | Yeah. |
| 00:00.23 | buu | Hahaha |
| 00:00.26 | aestil | i find that its best to call it as it is as we learn fights. solarian is not hard, al'ar is not hard, vr is not hard, nothing in ssc is hard. |
| 00:00.29 | buu | One of our MTs went afk once in the middle of the group. |
| 00:00.43 | aestil | i'm not sure that KT is hard, but its defineatly challanging to learn due to the 5 phase fight. |
| 00:00.50 | buu | "BOMB" "Dude, you've got the bomb!" "Hello?" "BOMB" |
| 00:00.58 | aestil | we don't call fights hard, that aren't hard. |
| 00:01.08 | buu | And what do you call a spade? |
| 00:01.16 | aestil | if we said 'leo is hard' to the raid when they were learning it, then they would have cried when they started learning vashj |
| 00:01.23 | aestil | you just say 'this is easy, we have this' |
| 00:01.28 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: what server are you on? |
| 00:01.49 | aestil | Arrowmaster: first time we killed solarian, we laughed hysterically |
| 00:02.03 | Ellipsis | NivFreak: Cenarius |
| 00:02.56 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53689 10BankStack/ (BankStack.toc core.lua lib/ sort.lua): |
| 00:02.56 | CIA-7 | BankStack: Drycode |
| 00:02.56 | CIA-7 | -Remove LibBabble-Inventory-3.0, in favor of localizing just the handful of strings I need. |
| 00:02.56 | CIA-7 | -Change the sorter function to take advantage of the bag cache built for the movelist generator. (Replaces up to six |
| 00:02.57 | CIA-7 | function calls per comparison with table lookups. |
| 00:02.59 | CIA-7 | -Remove various commented out bits of debug code. |
| 00:03.05 | NightHawkAtWork | Hm, I should transfer my warrior there. And then let him idle there like she is on hakkar. >.> |
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| 00:03.26 | NightHawkAtWork | also, wow I totally borked those personal pronouns. |
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| 00:03.48 | aestil | NightHawkAtWork: everyone here is stupider for having read what you wrote |
| 00:03.58 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: then my work here is done. :D |
| 00:04.08 | aestil | buu: we have a soft spot for e x a l t e d |
| 00:04.16 | aestil | seems like infmaous with style is pretty cool. |
| 00:04.28 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53690 10BankStack/local.enUS.lua: BankStack: Actually *add* the locale file. |
| 00:04.32 | aestil | we seem to be pretty tight with vox radix as well. |
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| 00:05.25 | buu | aestil: Dunno, lots of people horde side don't seem to like them. |
| 00:05.30 | buu | IWS I mean. |
| 00:06.10 | buu | aestil: Among other things they immediately recruited abunch of known-bad guild-hopper type people. |
| 00:06.24 | aestil | *nods* |
| 00:06.33 | aestil | horde progresion fell apart. |
| 00:06.36 | buu | Perhaps it was mostly just resentment |
| 00:06.44 | buu | Yeah, it's non-existant. |
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| 00:10.10 | |Pixel| | :) |
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| 00:12.49 | cchome | anyone notice on proximo you can't target Stealth targets...i can't click on them...bugged? |
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| 00:14.01 | Arrowmaster | stealth targets? |
| 00:14.06 | Arrowmaster | like enemys? |
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| 00:14.31 | cchome | if he's a druid/rogue after he comes out of stealth u can't target him in proximo |
| 00:14.37 | cchome | u have to use tabbing |
| 00:14.53 | Arrowmaster | probably because your in combat |
| 00:15.13 | cchome | ? |
| 00:15.38 | Arrowmaster | if your in combat, frames cant be updated for targeting people |
| 00:16.05 | cchome | didn't happen in earlier releases of proximo |
| 00:16.07 | cchome | just recently |
| 00:17.04 | Arrowmaster | its happened with every single mod of that type, always |
| 00:17.52 | cchome | frames can't be updated when ur in combat? |
| 00:18.19 | Loonacy | Secure frames can't. |
| 00:18.24 | Arrowmaster | frames that do stuff like targeting cant |
| 00:19.15 | cchome | doesn't make sense |
| 00:19.21 | buu | TOOO BAD |
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| 00:21.12 | NeoTron | WTB: Hunter that's not a Huntard, Mage that is able to DPS PST |
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| 00:22.45 | NeoTron | like the hunters that are not only able to pull correctly with MD but also without (FD on bad pulls) |
| 00:22.50 | NeoTron | or able to... kit! |
| 00:22.52 | NeoTron | kite |
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| 00:23.15 | NeoTron | and a mage that doesn't need to be remidned to keep sheeping the trash before KT as we kill it... every time |
| 00:24.53 | aestil | NeoTron: your requests are reasonable, but you won't find that many players on any server that are like that. |
| 00:25.04 | aestil | i blew up the raid on solarian last night. we all have our moments. |
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| 00:26.05 | aestil | someone else's RW were whispering people |
| 00:26.16 | aestil | so i would see his whisper, and i was thinking it was me whispering him |
| 00:26.52 | kenlyric | simple rule. If you see one, it's somebody else. When there are 24, it's you. |
| 00:27.01 | aestil | no, only 1 other whisper |
| 00:27.06 | aestil | just me and him |
| 00:27.21 | NeoTron | must be skilled hunters out there |
| 00:27.27 | aestil | so basically i'm stupid, yes, but at the same time, i was confused, cause i really though it was him, not me. |
| 00:27.35 | aestil | NeoTron: i'm more concerned with hunters dps, not pulling. |
| 00:27.51 | kenlyric | what kind of fucked up shit is that. |
| 00:27.53 | kenlyric | 24 others. |
| 00:28.04 | aestil | 24 others? |
| 00:28.12 | aestil | i can't get people in my guild to run Big Wigs |
| 00:28.21 | aestil | and freaking Meteor timing is off for me. |
| 00:28.27 | Zhinjio | we just recruited a great hunter a couple weeks ago. I got him to come over from an old shared guild I was in. He's gone from like... 10th on damage to 2nd in 4 weeks. And he's completely solid on pulls, playing his class well. |
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| 00:28.32 | Zhinjio | he was a great grab. |
| 00:31.49 | NeoTron | hunters bring unique abilities to a raid |
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| 00:31.55 | NeoTron | in hyjal a good kiter can make a huge difference |
| 00:32.32 | Kalroth | "hunters bring unique abilities to a raid" = "wut do u meen i shuldnt melee?" |
| 00:32.54 | NeoTron | to me hunter DPS is important but it's the stuff only hunters can do that I want more |
| 00:33.21 | NeoTron | when your hunters fail to grasp/execute "pull thrall into combat" in Hyjal you just want to cry |
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| 00:33.35 | NeoTron | "but I pulled the mob over there" |
| 00:33.42 | Kalroth | We got a warrior to do that :) |
| 00:34.04 | Kalroth | Usually a random dps warrior tags one mob and go sits on Thrall until the group wakes up |
| 00:34.13 | NimbleRabit | Anyone know of a good way to format and repartition my hard drive and then get all the information back on to it? |
| 00:34.21 | Wobwork | munter |
| 00:34.22 | Wobwork | =( |
| 00:34.25 | Kalroth | NimbleRabit: What? :p |
| 00:34.28 | RaydenUni | what is the command to show you how many times you have died? |
| 00:34.38 | NimbleRabit | I need a way to store all the info somewhere else then get it back |
| 00:34.49 | Kalroth | NimbleRabit: Don't you just want to repartition it? |
| 00:34.52 | xerawx | NimbleRabit: buy another hard drive |
| 00:35.10 | NimbleRabit | xerawx: I have the storage, I'm worried about registry and stuff I might not know if copies |
| 00:35.10 | Kalroth | I mean, formatting it usually indicated that you want to get rid of the data on it :) |
| 00:35.15 | NimbleRabit | Well |
| 00:35.19 | Kalroth | indicates* |
| 00:35.19 | NimbleRabit | my hard drive if fuxxed |
| 00:35.23 | xerawx | you need something like Ghost or Acronis to image it then |
| 00:35.27 | NimbleRabit | I want to see if I can fix it |
| 00:35.34 | NimbleRabit | xerawx: thanks |
| 00:35.54 | NimbleRabit | I can't access 150 gigs of it that I partitioned a while ago and then somehow messed up |
| 00:36.00 | NimbleRabit | hoping I can get it back lol |
| 00:36.14 | aestil | 28.5 MB at startup now. |
| 00:36.16 | aestil | thats not too bad. |
| 00:37.06 | Ellipsis | 24 for me =] |
| 00:38.56 | aestil | i run alot more shit than you. and have absurd amounts of eepanels2 scripts running |
| 00:38.56 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53691 10BankStack/ (BankStack.toc local.enUS.lua): |
| 00:38.56 | CIA-7 | BankStack: |
| 00:38.56 | CIA-7 | -Fix drycode problems: add local.enUS.lua to TOC, add missing comma. |
| 00:39.11 | Ellipsis | aestil: eePanels scripts take almost no memory :P |
| 00:39.31 | aestil | you lie |
| 00:39.38 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 00:39.40 | aestil | also, you never tell me why my grid script sometimes breaks. |
| 00:39.50 | Ellipsis | also, you never told me it was breaking |
| 00:40.38 | aestil | randomnly. |
| 00:40.41 | aestil | everythings fine. |
| 00:40.49 | aestil | and then it will resize to 100% of the GridLayoutFrame |
| 00:40.54 | aestil | all 3 panels will. |
| 00:41.04 | aestil | i have a macro to /script the function |
| 00:41.05 | xerawx | wow, hellgate crashed twice on me already. too bad you can't return software. at least i didn't buy the collector's ed. >_> |
| 00:41.07 | aestil | so i don't have to see it. |
| 00:41.44 | aestil | well the script forces the panels to be the right size again. |
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| 00:42.08 | NeoTron | zomg winner hunter app |
| 00:42.11 | NeoTron | 14 yo ftw |
| 00:42.13 | NeoTron | just what we need |
| 00:42.26 | yssaril | ckknight_: ping |
| 00:42.27 | xerawx | legoooolassss |
| 00:42.29 | Ellipsis | I know a 14 year old hunter that doesn't suck |
| 00:42.37 | NeoTron | doesn't say he suck or not |
| 00:42.43 | NeoTron | but kids are trouble |
| 00:42.51 | xerawx | buuuuut moooooommmm |
| 00:42.55 | NeoTron | bed time, grounded, immature |
| 00:43.17 | xerawx | volatile indeed |
| 00:43.32 | NeoTron | and he's one our ahead of us |
| 00:43.39 | NeoTron | which means we raid 10pm to 2am his time.. |
| 00:44.02 | NeoTron | if I was a parent I sure as hell would not let my 14yo kid play wow that late |
| 00:44.54 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember the last time i went to bed before 2am |
| 00:45.55 | Ellipsis | I can't remember the last time I went to bed at the same time for more than a couple days straight |
| 00:46.02 | kenlyric | 14? |
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| 00:46.32 | NeoTron | he's about 10 yrs too young for our guild |
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| 00:47.00 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: same for me too but i know its been recent, i just dont pay much attention to when i goto bed now |
| 00:48.20 | Arrowmaster | i went to bed at like 8am today then had to get up at 11:30am for class |
| 00:48.25 | toybreaker | evening all, noob here with a question. I swear I have looked for the answer |
| 00:48.52 | tinyboom | ~asktoask |
| 00:48.53 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 00:49.30 | toybreaker | I recently went totaly custom with mostly ace addons, when I open wow ace updater some of the installed addons are highlighted in blue, what does that mean? |
| 00:50.05 | hyperChipmunk | it means doom is upon you |
| 00:50.08 | hyperChipmunk | the end is nigh |
| 00:50.20 | toybreaker | lol...figures...just my luck |
| 00:50.38 | toybreaker | i thought maybe they needed updated but it does not look like it |
| 00:51.09 | tinyboom | .net WAU or Java WAU? |
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| 00:51.48 | tinyboom | never seen that happen, anyone else? might be an ignored addon, maybe check your addon folders for .svn folders or something:) or nvm me if i am totally lost:p |
| 00:51.49 | toybreaker | i think .net |
| 00:55.33 | kenlyric | means they need to be updated. |
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| 00:55.37 | toybreaker | oh heck, noob alert |
| 00:55.42 | toybreaker | i just figured that out |
| 00:56.16 | toybreaker | i was hitting f12 thinking it was updating all of them..thanks |
| 00:59.44 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53692 10BankStack/ (core.lua sort.lua stack.lua): |
| 00:59.44 | CIA-7 | BankStack: |
| 00:59.44 | CIA-7 | -Sorting was using a ~= where it should be been an ==, resulting in needless swapping of full stacks of items. |
| 00:59.44 | CIA-7 | -Stacking the bank would error if you weren't at the bank, because I missed a locale. |
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| 01:02.34 | NimbleRabit | Anyone know an irc channel where I might be able to find some advanced technical help with partition magic? |
| 01:02.59 | NimbleRabit | this program is crazy... |
| 01:03.00 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 01:06.46 | Ellipsis | wow, that was awesome |
| 01:07.02 | Ellipsis | I logged in, and the first thing I saw in /g was "what, you're 17, you can't have it properly" "not legally, but I have" |
| 01:07.07 | Ellipsis | turns out they were talking about eggnog |
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| 01:10.17 | NeoTron | or so they say |
| 01:10.42 | Ellipsis | yeah, maybe I don't want to know |
| 01:13.55 | xyu | Hey i have a quick Kael question. In phase 5, if we have a left over pheonix, should we kill it or is it ok to ignore it? |
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| 01:18.14 | Antiarc | We just ignored them till they went into eggs |
| 01:18.17 | Antiarc | Well, tanked them |
| 01:18.19 | Antiarc | Then killed the eggs |
| 01:18.23 | durcyn | you can ignore it when he starts debris shit |
| 01:21.55 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53693 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua: |
| 01:21.55 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 01:21.55 | CIA-7 | -- Fix show tooltip setting to work again outside of Move the Buttons mode. |
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| 01:23.26 | tinyboom | kenlyric; lol at me:p they aren't blue but black because of my silly xp style setttings:p |
| 01:24.51 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53694 10AutoBar/AutoBarOptions.lua: |
| 01:24.52 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 01:24.52 | CIA-7 | -- Arrange on use default true for Hunter / Paladin Aura button. |
| 01:24.52 | CIA-7 | -- Offhand buff weapon button for Hunters as well. |
| 01:24.56 | Paradox | anyone know how to change class colours in Aloft? |
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| 01:28.53 | dylanm | Edit the source wherever it uses RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
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| 01:32.07 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53695 10Talented/Locales/koKR.lua: Talented: koKR update |
| 01:39.31 | toybreaker | anyone here Use Mazzle? what are your thoughts on it? I have used it for a long time and recently went away mainly cause I dont feel like I can change much without breaking it but i love the concept |
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| 01:47.03 | dylanm | <-- hates the concept |
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| 01:53.41 | toybreaker | really? why do you hate it? |
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| 02:04.31 | xerawx | i'm not a fan of compilation type things personally, i like to know what each thing is and be able to tweak it |
| 02:05.51 | xerawx | one addon messing with all the others does seem like a bad idea to me too |
| 02:06.02 | xerawx | but i haven't actually tried mazzle |
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| 02:08.10 | Diao | do you absolutely have to have 505 fishing |
| 02:08.15 | Diao | to summon lurker? |
| 02:08.22 | Diao | we've got someone with 500 :( |
| 02:08.55 | Audrina | 500? |
| 02:09.15 | starlon | I don't know, but we have plenty of people fishing when we're there. I'd be surprised if they all had 505. |
| 02:09.39 | Audrina | Max is 375 |
| 02:09.48 | dylanm | Audrina: Consider lures and +fishing bonuses |
| 02:10.17 | Audrina | Well I do it all the time with 375 |
| 02:10.29 | Diao | oh lol |
| 02:10.41 | Diao | yeah 375 + 100 fishing poles + lures + etc |
| 02:12.02 | Audrina | I have the Big Iron pole thats +20 so I have 395 Lol but thats all |
| 02:14.40 | dylanm | Hmm now I'm curious to see the max +fishing you could get... |
| 02:14.55 | Audrina | Lol |
| 02:15.26 | Ellipsis | wowwiki will know |
| 02:15.29 | Ellipsis | wowwiki knows everything |
| 02:16.03 | Xinhuan | 325 is enough to summon lurker |
| 02:16.37 | dylanm | Oh wow it does have the max possible boost. |
| 02:16.49 | dylanm | 152. Neato. |
| 02:17.36 | durcyn | nevcairiel: after your commit, NPCModules\BlackTemple\Illidan.lua:85: attempt to perform arithmetic on upvalue 'flames' (a nil value) |
| 02:22.24 | Antiarc | So |
| 02:22.26 | Antiarc | Apparently |
| 02:22.31 | Antiarc | My brother puts videos on youtube |
| 02:22.32 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca9U0nd34aE |
| 02:22.41 | Antiarc | And it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen |
| 02:23.02 | Ellipsis | oh, I was about to ask whether that was worth clicking |
| 02:23.45 | Wobwork | hehe I see the family resemblance =) |
| 02:23.55 | NightHawkTheSan1 | god, i fucking hate my friends. >< |
| 02:24.50 | Moozh | i've' made a discovery |
| 02:25.02 | Moozh | night elf warriors have 30 extra health for no apparent reason. |
| 02:25.09 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 02:25.12 | Wobwork | Star power |
| 02:25.26 | Xinhuan | what do you mean, 30 extra health |
| 02:25.40 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i say, MANY TIMES, that I can't guarantee being online before 7:30 for raids, and they STILl scheduled a raid and filled it up long before I got home. |
| 02:25.59 | Ellipsis | NightHawkTheSan1: clearly they don't like you |
| 02:26.01 | Moozh | a night elf, without a class or talents or gear, starts at level 1 with 19 stamina. becoming a warrior class gives you a 2 stamina bonus, bringing your total stamina to 21 at level one, 0 experience |
| 02:26.05 | Shirik | lol star power |
| 02:26.06 | Shirik | awesome |
| 02:26.09 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Ellipsis: i'm getting that impression. >< |
| 02:26.14 | Moozh | however, you only start with 50 health, not the 210 you would expect |
| 02:26.33 | Moozh | mousing over your stamina brings up a tooltip that says "increases health by 30" |
| 02:26.34 | Ellipsis | it's ok, we still tolerate you |
| 02:26.35 | Antiarc | I died laughing at the star power |
| 02:26.50 | Moozh | leveling up will bring your hit points up by 19, to 69, and increases your stamina by 1, bringing it to 22 |
| 02:26.55 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 02:27.10 | Moozh | mousing over again will result in a tooltip saying "increases your health by 40" |
| 02:27.30 | Moozh | stamina:health seems to scale at the ratio of 1:10 AFTER level 1 |
| 02:27.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Ellipsis: that's more than i can say for some people lately. but bleh |
| 02:27.40 | Moozh | as every point into stamina after that will increase your health by 10 |
| 02:27.48 | Moozh | so there is 30 health coming from somewhere, or nowhere |
| 02:28.45 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53696 10TradeBar/TradeBar.lua: TradeBar: fix: TradeBar as an Alcheminst and had problems with the Alchemy button stopped (thanks Trax) |
| 02:29.06 | Moozh | even at level 70, if you take your health increase from stamina and subtract the health gained by being a night elf warrior (21) you still come up with 30 health that has no source |
| 02:29.12 | Wobwork | Antiarc: I applaud your brother =) |
| 02:29.19 | Wobwork | A+++ Would watch again =P |
| 02:29.19 | Antiarc | He is so incredily funny |
| 02:29.30 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_PPFNZX04 |
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| 02:31.46 | Shirik | Antiarc: I have to admit that is indeed awesome |
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| 02:32.57 | Wobwork | epic =) |
| 02:33.11 | Wobwork | I <3 meta songs |
| 02:33.20 | Shirik | ahahaha |
| 02:33.25 | Wobwork | like Davinci's Notebook |
| 02:33.26 | Shirik | he's singing the girl part |
| 02:33.27 | Shirik | and his face |
| 02:33.29 | Shirik | perfect |
| 02:33.41 | Antiarc | He does facial expressions perfectly. |
| 02:33.53 | Antiarc | A lot of the impromptu stuff he does is impressions, and he's just dead on with them |
| 02:33.54 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Ellipsis: the bitch of it is, i missed attumen because of it, and go figure he drops the goddamn healing mail bracers |
| 02:34.07 | Moozh | whoa, a shaman? |
| 02:34.14 | NightHawkTheSan1 | indeed. |
| 02:34.17 | Moozh | how rare |
| 02:34.23 | Ellipsis | ouch, NightHawkTheSan1 :( |
| 02:34.27 | Wobwork | oh god |
| 02:34.30 | Wobwork | badgerbadgerbadger =P |
| 02:34.33 | Antiarc | Heeheee |
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| 02:34.40 | Ellipsis | if it helps, those drop every freaking time we kill him |
| 02:34.47 | Moozh | NightHawkTheSan1: i've been running kara since may, and the mail healing pants from chess have yet to drop |
| 02:34.48 | NightHawkTheSan1 | which some shitty shaman who i think is elemental got. < |
| 02:34.51 | Moozh | every single raid, not a single drop |
| 02:34.54 | Ellipsis | unless I'm not there, in which case it's always my drops |
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| 02:35.15 | NightHawkTheSan1 | well this was our first kara raid for the guild |
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| 02:35.38 | Moozh | come to ours, they've been DE'd twice |
| 02:35.57 | Xinhuan | pug it up |
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| 02:36.03 | Xinhuan | attunmen is easy |
| 02:36.23 | NightHawkTheSan1 | heh, well if my 'friends' (real life friends, at that ><) don't see fit to start raids when I can actually make them, I may change servers/guilds |
| 02:36.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Xinhuan: i don't pug. |
| 02:36.35 | Xinhuan | its 5-mannable |
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| 02:40.09 | Arrowmaster | Moozh: check the wowwiki forumla pages for stamina, i know the one for attackpower says that rogues gain 1 ap per str and agi but have like a base of -20 ap or something |
| 02:40.21 | Moozh | 1 stamina = 10 hp |
| 02:40.23 | Moozh | just like that |
| 02:40.31 | Moozh | its only at level one that you get 30 health from nowhere |
| 02:40.34 | Wobwork | Antiarc: Has your brother considered broadway? =P |
| 02:40.40 | Arrowmaster | yes but the forumlas arent that simple |
| 02:40.47 | Antiarc | We keep telling him he needs to do something with his talent |
| 02:40.51 | Antiarc | He just doesn't think he could cut it |
| 02:41.01 | Wobwork | Tell him I'd come watch him =) |
| 02:41.08 | Arrowmaster | the rogue AP forumla is something like STR + AGI - 20 even though STR and AGI both = 1 ap |
| 02:41.13 | Antiarc | Hehe, okay |
| 02:41.27 | Moozh | i'll investigate further |
| 02:41.34 | Arrowmaster | actually i think its slightly more complex than that |
| 02:41.37 | Wobwork | Is there a Monty Python Musical? |
| 02:41.43 | Wobwork | Cause goddamn what have I missed? =\ |
| 02:41.52 | Antiarc | Yes, Spamalot |
| 02:41.57 | Wobwork | hm |
| 02:42.06 | Antiarc | also, brb, rebooting |
| 02:42.16 | Arrowmaster | Moozh: search for something like health or hp forumla on wowwiki |
| 02:42.20 | Arrowmaster | not stamina |
| 02:42.40 | Wobwork | Damnit |
| 02:42.47 | Wobwork | it's in Melbourne |
| 02:42.52 | Arrowmaster | since stamina = 10 hp but its really the hp forumla that determines how much hp you have based on stamina |
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| 02:44.24 | Moozh | how odd |
| 02:44.30 | Moozh | there are no HP formulas on wowwiki |
| 02:44.50 | dylanm | What're we arguing about here? |
| 02:44.51 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 02:44.52 | Moozh | just health regen and hp/5 |
| 02:44.55 | Moozh | no stamina or health |
| 02:45.28 | dylanm | What conversion do you want? |
| 02:45.35 | Arrowmaster | well it is one of the more complex things to make a forumla for since youd need to check every race/class combo |
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| 02:45.50 | kaiden | *cries* FlexBar2 is broken :( |
| 02:45.52 | dylanm | Total health or just boosts from gear? |
| 02:46.02 | Moozh | both |
| 02:46.11 | Moozh | i'm writing a program that will be sort of a character-builder |
| 02:46.16 | dylanm | Yeah you have to do a lot of talent-checking. |
| 02:46.21 | Moozh | and i need to know the equation for figuring base health |
| 02:46.32 | Moozh | since a level 1 night elf warrior starts with 50 health, but 21 stamina |
| 02:46.51 | Moozh | however, every point of stamina gained after will increase his health by 10 |
| 02:47.19 | dylanm | Yeah each race has different starting health amounts. |
| 02:47.27 | dylanm | You'll just have to store that. Nothing to be done. |
| 02:47.27 | Xinhuan | so its just "stamina * 10 + somebasenumber" |
| 02:47.45 | Arrowmaster | but the base number is different for every level |
| 02:47.58 | Xinhuan | maybe that's why no formula is made |
| 02:48.01 | Xinhuan | because there isn't one |
| 02:48.05 | Moozh | there has to be |
| 02:48.15 | Xinhuan | i haven't found one |
| 02:48.20 | Moozh | because at level 1 you have 30 more health than you should, based on all the information given |
| 02:48.26 | Xinhuan | i wrote WoWEquip and i'm trying to add support for adding basestats numbers |
| 02:48.27 | Moozh | and at level 70, you still have 30 more health than you should |
| 02:48.37 | Xinhuan | at the end of it, i'm just requesting ppl to send in |
| 02:48.44 | Xinhuan | lvl 70 naked untalented unbuffed stats |
| 02:48.45 | Moozh | something has to keep it the same, and its got to be a formula of some sort |
| 02:48.50 | Moozh | yes |
| 02:49.01 | Xinhuan | if you find the formula, inform me ^^ |
| 02:49.06 | Moozh | i went on the ptr, untalented, unequipped all my gear, removed all buffs |
| 02:49.11 | Arrowmaster | so doent that just mean 30 is the base hp |
| 02:49.15 | Moozh | night elf racials don't affect hp |
| 02:49.29 | Moozh | sort of |
| 02:49.30 | dylanm | But you get health apart from stamina when you level. |
| 02:49.37 | dylanm | That much we know. |
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| 02:49.51 | Moozh | if the base is 30, and the base stamina is 21, where does the extra 20 come from that brings your starting health to 50? |
| 02:50.14 | Moozh | all level 1 night elf warriors have 21 stamina, 50 health, and the mouseover of stamina reads "increases your health by 30" |
| 02:50.18 | Xinhuan | i believe the formulas change between lvl 61-70 |
| 02:50.27 | Xinhuan | they added A LOT of extra stamina |
| 02:50.29 | Xinhuan | in those levels |
| 02:50.32 | Moozh | indeed |
| 02:50.32 | Xinhuan | or hp |
| 02:50.37 | dylanm | Xinhuan: That's where they mucked with things a lot, yes. |
| 02:50.41 | Xinhuan | or both |
| 02:50.42 | Moozh | maybe not the composition of the formula, but just the numbers in them |
| 02:50.47 | Moozh | i must find this formula |
| 02:51.11 | Xinhuan | why do you want to fidn it heh |
| 02:51.42 | Moozh | so i can reverse-engineer other classes and come up with the correct base stats for an untalented, ungeared, unbuffed level 70 of any class/race combination |
| 02:52.04 | Xinhuan | if you can do that, i'll add in all these formulas into WoWEquip |
| 02:52.17 | Moozh | i'll let you know what i find |
| 02:52.43 | Ellipsis | if you find it, put it on wowwiki |
| 02:52.45 | Xinhuan | the best i've come across, is a partially filled table of "base stats" about 20% filled up |
| 02:52.47 | dylanm | I've been kicking around a little RatingBuster-type addon for a long time and I almost want to hook up to a private server just so I can get quick numbers for every combination of conditions without pissing off half of Mal'Ganis. |
| 02:53.14 | Xinhuan | and by basestats, it only has str, agi, sta, int, spi - nothing else |
| 02:53.18 | Xinhuan | no hp, no mana, etc |
| 02:53.20 | Lukian | ckknight_, in? |
| 02:53.36 | dylanm | Xinhuan: Some of the wowwiki pages have the starting health too... |
| 02:53.49 | Xinhuan | by 20%, i mean the table is sparsely populated, like 60 rows for 60 lvls |
| 02:53.54 | Xinhuan | about 10 rows will be filled in |
| 02:54.07 | dylanm | Heh. |
| 02:54.26 | Xinhuan | dylanm: i once kept a record of base starting lvl 1 stats |
| 02:54.33 | Xinhuan | they changed so often between patches i gave up |
| 02:54.41 | Industrial | DING 53 |
| 02:54.43 | Xinhuan | often, its just a tweak here, a tweak there |
| 02:54.57 | Xinhuan | but it still involved you making some 30 chars to check them all |
| 02:54.58 | Lukian | grats Industrial :p |
| 02:55.19 | dylanm | No one cares Indy boooo |
| 02:55.47 | Xinhuan | simply put, blizzard does make changes that they don't document |
| 02:56.13 | Moozh | the amount of stats gained per level is consistant across class, and does not vary with race |
| 02:56.13 | Xinhuan | and 99.999% won't notice it |
| 02:56.18 | Moozh | a level 1 undead warrior leveling to level 2 will gain the same stats as a level 1 night elf warrior leveling to level 2 |
| 02:56.25 | Moozh | 19 health, 1 stam, 1 strength, 1 agility |
| 02:56.41 | Arrowmaster | does the total health vary? |
| 02:56.47 | fitz__ | yes, but the night elf will have taken longer on account of stopping to watch their boobs jiggle |
| 02:57.01 | Moozh | yes, because each race starts off with different attributes |
| 02:57.28 | fitz__ | the only race with any significant level 70 impact on health is the tauren with their racial +10 or +15 or whatever the hell % it is |
| 02:57.30 | Moozh | an undead, for example, starts with 21 stamina, and 2 more stamina for being a warrior |
| 02:57.32 | Arrowmaster | ok so nelf gets +2 stam right? but what does the mouseover of stam say at level 1? |
| 02:57.42 | Moozh | whereas a night elf starts with 19 stamina, and 2 more stamina for being a warrior |
| 02:58.13 | Moozh | at level 1, for a night elf warrior, is 30 health. i'll go make a dwarf warrior, level 1 |
| 02:58.20 | Moozh | which starts with 23 stamina, +2 for warrior class |
| 02:58.38 | Arrowmaster | so the tooltip says incrases health by 30? |
| 02:58.48 | Moozh | for a night elf |
| 02:58.51 | Moozh | bout to check for dwarf |
| 02:58.57 | Xinhuan | btw, i need more than just "base stats" formula |
| 02:59.07 | Moozh | what |
| 02:59.10 | Xinhuan | i require dodge, block, defense, parry, etc as well |
| 02:59.13 | Moozh | dwarf warrior, at level 1 |
| 02:59.17 | Moozh | mouseover says 70 health |
| 02:59.20 | Moozh | and has 90 |
| 02:59.25 | Moozh | this is AWESOME |
| 02:59.28 | Xinhuan | spellcrit, spellhit, AP, RAP, etc |
| 02:59.39 | Arrowmaster | find a class that doesnt get a +stm bonus and check it for nightelf if possible |
| 02:59.51 | Moozh | k |
| 02:59.59 | Moozh | priest |
| 03:00.02 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: parry is based on defense |
| 03:00.10 | Moozh | no priest stam bonus, so the night elf priest will have 19 stamina |
| 03:00.12 | Arrowmaster | nothing else |
| 03:00.59 | Moozh | night elf priest starts with 51 health |
| 03:01.03 | Xinhuan | still i need a formula for almost everything otherwise i can only support lvl 70 base stats |
| 03:01.04 | Moozh | 19 stamina |
| 03:01.16 | Moozh | mouseover says the stamina increases his health by 19 |
| 03:02.02 | Moozh | it might be different formulas based on class |
| 03:02.07 | Moozh | i'll make another type of priest |
| 03:02.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah that shits totally screwy |
| 03:02.11 | Xinhuan | or it might be special below lvl 10 |
| 03:02.20 | Moozh | dwarf priest |
| 03:02.24 | Xinhuan | for eg, rating -> % formula is different below lvl 10 |
| 03:02.24 | Moozh | will haev 23 stamina |
| 03:02.50 | Xinhuan | you can test this by applying a "+10 haste rating" enchant |
| 03:02.54 | Xinhuan | on a lvl 1 |
| 03:03.01 | Xinhuan | (gloves) |
| 03:03.10 | Xinhuan | or helm/legs with libram of rapidity thru the trade window |
| 03:03.17 | Arrowmaster | theyre like really high right? |
| 03:03.36 | Moozh | dwarf priest at level 1 has 82 health, and the 23 stam mouseover reads "increases health by 50" |
| 03:04.25 | Moozh | i think there may be formulas specific to race, and then formulas specific to class, and they overlap for a class/race combo |
| 03:04.34 | Moozh | this means.... too many formula combinations. |
| 03:05.43 | Ellipsis | I love tree druids |
| 03:05.47 | Xinhuan | the character screen window can be wrong btw |
| 03:05.55 | Xinhuan | i once respecced from arcane to frost |
| 03:06.03 | Xinhuan | and the +spelldamage values were totally wrong |
| 03:06.07 | Xinhuan | after the respec |
| 03:06.14 | Xinhuan | and so were the Int values |
| 03:06.17 | Moozh | arcane has a talent that increases spelldamage based on int |
| 03:06.17 | Xinhuan | until relogging. |
| 03:06.22 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 03:06.29 | Xinhuan | hence the respeccing screwed it up |
| 03:06.54 | Xinhuan | so the numbers shown in there may not necessarily be correct either |
| 03:07.00 | Xinhuan | that "23 stam increases health by 50" |
| 03:07.06 | starlon | If it's not here, then forget it. lol http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas_and_Game_Mechanics |
| 03:07.20 | Moozh | already checked, its not |
| 03:07.59 | fitz__ | 23 stam SHOULD be 230 health, so there's probably a different formula applying at very low levels |
| 03:08.00 | Xinhuan | you would think out of 9 mil subscribers, someone would have found it ;p |
| 03:08.32 | starlon | that's what I figure |
| 03:08.59 | Moozh | fitz__: the formula would only apply at or before level 1, as leveling and gaining more stamina applies the correct stamina-> health conversion |
| 03:09.28 | Xinhuan | to be honest, nobody really cares about lvl 1s |
| 03:09.48 | Xinhuan | hence for wowequip, i've only opted to request ppl to send in base stats data for every race/class combination for lvl 70s |
| 03:09.55 | Moozh | true, but its the formula i'm interested in, not so much the level |
| 03:10.01 | Xinhuan | non-70s and twinks can bugger off |
| 03:10.04 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 03:10.13 | fitz__ | my level 64 warlock is crying now |
| 03:10.43 | Xinhuan | over a 1.5 month period only 9 ppl have posted race/class stats |
| 03:10.49 | Lukian | Can I hide omen, but leave pullouts? |
| 03:10.57 | Moozh | what's even weirder is that my level 70 untalented, ungeared, unbuffed warrior has 134 stamina, and the mouseover claims to increase health by 1140 |
| 03:11.42 | Moozh | converting the health gain turns that into 114 stamina, and taking away the base 21 stamina from the actual stamina stat reduces it to 111 stamina, 3 less than the amount said given by the mouseover |
| 03:11.47 | Moozh | so again, 30 health is missing somewhere |
| 03:11.57 | starlon | Oooh patch is downloading. |
| 03:12.12 | Lukian | 2.3 is being served? |
| 03:12.16 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 03:12.17 | Xinhuan | 222 mb |
| 03:12.46 | Arrowmaster | i doubt its really much of a forumla |
| 03:13.33 | Arrowmaster | since your just trying to make sense of what it says for health gained from that amount of stamina |
| 03:14.00 | Moozh | i think i'm going to see if i can get ahold of a blueposter and make sense of this discrepancy |
| 03:14.13 | Arrowmaster | when really its just (TotalStam-NakedStam)*10+NakedHP |
| 03:15.09 | Xinhuan | i personally believe the base stats/numbers don't have a formula and are hardcoded |
| 03:15.31 | Xinhuan | but everything else from gear talents, etc are added on top |
| 03:15.33 | Moozh | that could either suck or rock |
| 03:15.35 | Arrowmaster | although that might not be true once you start changing stam from % buffs/talents |
| 03:15.40 | Moozh | my mind is too burned out to tell |
| 03:16.05 | Xinhuan | % buff talents/spells only need to multiply the final value |
| 03:16.12 | Xinhuan | so that's irrelevant |
| 03:16.36 | Moozh | but are they multiplying stamina, or health? |
| 03:16.39 | Arrowmaster | at lvl 70 thats kinda easy i guess since each point of stam does give 10 |
| 03:16.42 | Xinhuan | both |
| 03:16.50 | Arrowmaster | stam |
| 03:16.50 | Xinhuan | a tauren gains +10% health bonus |
| 03:16.51 | Moozh | if they're multiplying stamina, what do i do about the 21 stamina that actually doesn't equal 210 health? |
| 03:17.01 | Xinhuan | since stamina contributes to health |
| 03:17.07 | Xinhuan | both stam/health gets the 10% |
| 03:17.14 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 03:17.16 | Xinhuan | you can verify this with a +100 hp enchant |
| 03:17.17 | Xinhuan | it gives 110 hp |
| 03:17.23 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 03:18.08 | Xinhuan | sorry, i just checked www.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 03:18.10 | Arrowmaster | ive heard taurens say that theyve checked and the chest enchant does not get effected |
| 03:18.10 | Xinhuan | the official website says |
| 03:18.12 | Xinhuan | "Endurance - passive, Max Health increased by 5% |
| 03:18.12 | Xinhuan | " |
| 03:18.21 | Xinhuan | i've also doublechecked with taurent |
| 03:18.24 | Xinhuan | taurens |
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| 03:18.28 | Xinhuan | the enchant gets multiplied |
| 03:18.58 | Arrowmaster | ive always heard taht it was actually a stam increase |
| 03:19.23 | Moozh | ooh |
| 03:19.27 | Moozh | i know how to screw up my logic |
| 03:19.34 | Moozh | lets buff a level 1 night elf warrior with kings |
| 03:19.39 | Moozh | and see what happens to my health |
| 03:19.45 | Arrowmaster | can you? |
| 03:19.53 | Moozh | we'll see |
| 03:20.00 | Arrowmaster | kings is a level 20 spell |
| 03:20.05 | Moozh | if i can, it should increase my stamina by 2, and my health will go up by 20 |
| 03:20.09 | Xinhuan | can't be, because there are enchants that gives +15 health |
| 03:20.10 | Arrowmaster | so you can atleast buff a level 10 with it |
| 03:20.12 | Xinhuan | +25 health |
| 03:20.19 | Xinhuan | and +35 health |
| 03:20.36 | Xinhuan | unless they have a way of adding 2.5 stam |
| 03:20.38 | Xinhuan | that wouldn't make sense |
| 03:20.45 | Arrowmaster | those dont add stam though |
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| 03:20.51 | Arrowmaster | they add hp |
| 03:20.53 | Xinhuan | i'm fairly sure a 100 hp enchant gives 105 health to a tauren |
| 03:20.55 | jellywerker | hello all |
| 03:21.18 | Arrowmaster | i was fairly sure the 100hp enchant only gave 100hp to taurens but i havent tested it myself |
| 03:21.45 | Moozh | if kings increases the level 1 newarrior's stamina by 2, and his health by 20, then this means the formula that's used to determine the starting health based on stamina doesn't matter; ANY increases to stamina after character creation will follow the normal stamina->health conversion rates, and i can safely multiply stamina by %'s at level 70 |
| 03:22.25 | Xinhuan | that's why i said Moozh, i believe there isn't a formula for basestats |
| 03:22.26 | Ellipsis | ffs |
| 03:22.34 | Xinhuan | only the stuff added ontop follow any formula |
| 03:22.36 | Arrowmaster | i bet its really something like STAM*10+base where base is negative at level 1 |
| 03:22.37 | Ellipsis | huntard put MD on me mid-fight to be funny |
| 03:22.44 | Ellipsis | HAY LOOK GUISE IMMA WIPE JOO LOL |
| 03:23.08 | Xinhuan | Ellipsis: its only funny if you actually wipe ;p |
| 03:24.15 | Moozh | i'm gonna go bang my head against a wall in the shower, and maybe the answer will come to me |
| 03:24.16 | Moozh | afki |
| 03:24.19 | Moozh | *afk even |
| 03:25.22 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: it's because they've learned not to fuck over the healers. |
| 03:28.40 | Ellipsis | he did it to make me slow down dps so he could catch me on the meters |
| 03:28.41 | Ellipsis | :P: |
| 03:28.43 | Ellipsis | LOL* |
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| 03:33.37 | rubik | ughh.. so we skipped attumen and maiden and killed everything but prince and chess upstairs on tuesday... now tonight, we brought same group and instance is fully cleared... |
| 03:34.01 | rubik | people are saying it's possible we got someone else's raid id? |
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| 03:34.12 | rubik | anyone ever heard of something like that? |
| 03:34.19 | Xinhuan | no. |
| 03:34.20 | nymbia | yeah |
| 03:34.23 | Xinhuan | more like someone got your raidid |
| 03:34.30 | nymbia | one time molten core crashed |
| 03:34.32 | JoshBorke | i think someone got your raid id |
| 03:34.41 | Xinhuan | there hasn't been any cases since MC days nymbia |
| 03:34.47 | nymbia | and when the server came back up, we had the same id as a horde raid |
| 03:34.50 | Xinhuan | or since the raidID lockout change |
| 03:34.52 | nymbia | pvp in tha core. |
| 03:35.01 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: you seen the thread on the raid forums? |
| 03:35.10 | Xinhuan | i haven't |
| 03:35.11 | Xinhuan | link? |
| 03:35.20 | rubik | we didn't crash.. we started late and only raided for 2 hrs so we said we'll just finish it on thursday and we left it after killing moroes -> opera -> nightbane -> curator -> aran -> illhoof -> netherspite |
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| 03:35.38 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2512090604&sid=1 |
| 03:35.48 | JoshBorke | rubik: you took 2 hours to clear all those bosses? |
| 03:35.52 | JoshBorke | rubik: how geared are you? |
| 03:36.13 | rubik | yeah.. don't get me started please.. guild is "casual" and people lack skills |
| 03:36.28 | JoshBorke | no, i think that is fast |
| 03:36.35 | Xinhuan | interesting |
| 03:37.07 | rubik | maybe it was more like 2.5.. no more than that though.. we can clear the whole place in just under 4.. which isn't that fast, right? |
| 03:37.14 | JoshBorke | friends of mine are starting out in kara (about 3 weeks now) and can clear mores->oper->curator->aran->illhoof->chess in about 3 hours |
| 03:37.15 | Xinhuan | were they able to join the same raid? |
| 03:37.19 | Moozh | <rubik> people are saying it's possible we got someone else's raid id? << someone from your raid seeded another raid |
| 03:37.20 | Xinhuan | even though its different faction |
| 03:37.49 | rubik | Moozh: how? they joined a party that turned into a raid and then those people finished up our karazhan? |
| 03:38.00 | Moozh | it happened on my server, and a huge dramallama appeared on the forums between HOOD (the afflicted guild) and High Caliber, the guild that stole the raid |
| 03:38.03 | Moozh | yes |
| 03:38.17 | Moozh | hood brought one person from high caliber to fill a spot, and kicked him during a boss so he couldn't get loot |
| 03:38.36 | Moozh | the next morning, the warrior who was locked in started a 'new' raid and brought members of high caliber to the raid |
| 03:38.38 | Xinhuan | well for rubik's case, i'm more inclined to believe the raidID was stolen though |
| 03:38.39 | rubik | someone who was in our raid tuesday but hasn't gone back (a guild officer) verified that we got the same raid id tonight as we had on tuesday.. so we know for sure we didn't grab someone else's |
| 03:38.52 | Moozh | since he had the raid id, he started his own raid, as raid leader, and went inside |
| 03:39.04 | rubik | ahh gotcha |
| 03:39.07 | Moozh | unlocked high caliber followed, entering the partially cleared instance |
| 03:39.10 | rubik | i think it (kind of) makes sense now |
| 03:39.11 | Moozh | and proceeded to farm shards |
| 03:39.35 | Moozh | one person who has your raid id can start his own raid, and since he's locked into your raid, he can bring other people in with him, and they will join your raid id |
| 03:39.51 | Moozh | its similar to bringing another guildie in mid-run |
| 03:39.52 | rubik | they only got chess and prince though... maiden and attumen were still up (and we got the rest on tue) |
| 03:40.09 | Moozh | what about curator? |
| 03:40.31 | rubik | curator/aran/illhoof/netherspite were gone since we got those.. we ported to aran's room |
| 03:40.38 | rubik | and did chess... only to find out we did it for no loot |
| 03:40.51 | Moozh | then yeah, they either ported to aran's room or they walked in the back door and proceeded to the rest of the instance |
| 03:40.55 | rubik | and then said "screw it, it's bugged, let's do prince".. only to find no trash to prince and no prince.. lol |
| 03:40.56 | Moozh | skipping the first half |
| 03:41.22 | Moozh | then yeah, someone seeded your instance. you have a traitor amongst you |
| 03:41.44 | rubik | hrmm.. but it could have been "accidental" sort of, no? |
| 03:41.53 | rubik | any party accidentally converted to a raid could have done it? |
| 03:42.11 | Moozh | indeed, if the raid leader had your raid ID |
| 03:42.28 | Moozh | meaning whomever led the raid into the rest of your instance knew he had your id |
| 03:42.38 | rubik | hmm.. could it have been a BG raid? (cause then, holy crap.. anyone could have gotten it) |
| 03:42.47 | Obelixprim1 | Is the dev of xloot on? |
| 03:42.52 | Moozh | i don't think it could have been a bg raid |
| 03:43.04 | Moozh | the only way to 'spread' a raid id is for the people who are not locked in to kill a mob inside the instance |
| 03:43.23 | Moozh | in order to get your raid id, they physically had to be in the instance and kill something |
| 03:43.32 | rubik | but only WHILE they were part of the raid with our group member? |
| 03:43.38 | rubik | not after, right? |
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| 03:43.42 | Moozh | right |
| 03:43.48 | rubik | in that case, wow |
| 03:43.53 | Moozh | if they're not in the instance, they don't get locked in, no matter what anyone in the instance does |
| 03:43.56 | rubik | right |
| 03:44.01 | rubik | yeah, that part makes sense |
| 03:44.03 | rubik | oh well |
| 03:44.35 | Hesselgrinch | Hello! I got a problem with Pitbull aura's. There is supposed to be a option called "Side" when you choose to "split" buffs and debuffs. Sometimes I seem to be able to change this option |
| 03:44.38 | Hesselgrinch | and sometimes noy |
| 03:44.43 | Xinhuan | uh you don't have to kill something |
| 03:45.00 | Xinhuan | just zoning in to the (L)'s instance is sufficient to save him to the (L)'s raid ID |
| 03:45.01 | Hesselgrinch | and now I dont seem to be able to get the option to appear for me. |
| 03:45.06 | Xinhuan | if the (L) has a raid ID that is |
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| 03:45.10 | Moozh | okay |
| 03:45.17 | Moozh | regardless, you still have to be inside in order to get locked in |
| 03:45.28 | Moozh | you can't get locked in without entering the instance at the very least |
| 03:45.34 | Moozh | if you never zone, you'll never get locked in |
| 03:46.21 | Ellipsis | Hesselgrinch: put it in config mode |
| 03:47.37 | Hesselgrinch | what exacly do you mean by that? |
| 03:48.02 | Ellipsis | enable configuration mode in your pitbull settings |
| 03:48.13 | Hesselgrinch | Im editing through /pitbull and I have some configuration window |
| 03:48.16 | Ellipsis | options are not guaranteed to show up for a given frame unless you're in a config mode that includes that frame |
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| 03:48.34 | Hesselgrinch | How do I fix that then |
| 03:48.40 | Hesselgrinch | how do I enter config mode? :D |
| 03:48.50 | Ellipsis | in the main pitbull options there is a configuration mode option |
| 03:48.57 | Ellipsis | set that to party or raid or whatever you're working on |
| 03:49.18 | Hesselgrinch | ah |
| 03:49.23 | Hesselgrinch | party/raid/solo |
| 03:49.31 | Hesselgrinch | im working with auras for target/focus |
| 03:49.45 | Ellipsis | then any of those would work |
| 03:49.51 | Hesselgrinch | ah man |
| 03:49.58 | Hesselgrinch | this configuration mode is kickass |
| 03:50.00 | Hesselgrinch | thanks alot man |
| 03:50.39 | Ellipsis | I'm not a man, but you're welcome :P |
| 03:51.38 | Hesselgrinch | thanks alot then honey! :D |
| 03:51.58 | Hesselgrinch | got another question too. |
| 03:52.18 | Hesselgrinch | How do I edit the size of the area the buffs grow in? |
| 03:52.33 | Hesselgrinch | like number of rows. |
| 03:53.17 | Ellipsis | it will fit the unit frame |
| 03:53.43 | Hesselgrinch | hum |
| 03:54.17 | Hesselgrinch | i put my buffs on Side: left, and I put the growth Direction: Down then Left |
| 03:54.41 | Hesselgrinch | and it makes the buff frame as high as my unitframe is wide, and as wide as my unitframe is high... |
| 03:54.54 | Ellipsis | probably a bug |
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| 03:55.07 | Hesselgrinch | ye |
| 03:55.11 | Hesselgrinch | ok ill work it out |
| 03:55.12 | Hesselgrinch | thanks again |
| 03:55.25 | Ellipsis | np |
| 03:55.56 | Ellipsis | btw, if you find that the included aura module doesn't work the way you want, there's an AltAuras on the files page as well, you can play around with that :) |
| 03:57.29 | Wobwork | hehe if you're not a man, you're a honey? =) |
| 03:57.29 | Ellipsis | apparently |
| 03:57.37 | Wobwork | What happened to the classic gender nicknames |
| 03:57.42 | Wobwork | like "snuggle bunny" |
| 03:57.48 | Wobwork | and "sugarmuffin" |
| 03:58.07 | Plagous | better than dudette i guess =P |
| 03:58.19 | Wobwork | womyn? |
| 03:58.25 | Ellipsis | I don't want to be Hesselgrinch's snuggle bunny, tbh |
| 03:58.31 | Ellipsis | no offense Hesselgrinch, I just don't know you that well |
| 03:58.58 | NightHawkTheSan1 | will you be my snookums? |
| 03:58.59 | Wobwork | sugar muffin? |
| 03:59.12 | Ellipsis | NightHawkTheSan1: hm...need pix |
| 03:59.19 | Wobwork | <sucroseladensnackfood>? |
| 03:59.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Ellipsis: i'll take that as a no, then. >< |
| 03:59.45 | Ellipsis | I dunno, you seem pretty cool and all |
| 03:59.54 | Ellipsis | I still require pix for most terms of endearment though, sorry |
| 04:00.00 | Wobwork | she just needs to validate her mental image of you |
| 04:00.15 | Wobwork | of someone off a miills and boone cover |
| 04:00.31 | Plagous | lol |
| 04:00.33 | Wobwork | So make sure you send that picture of you shirtless on a horse. |
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| 04:00.53 | Wobwork | Gazing manlylike into the distance |
| 04:01.18 | Ellipsis | you know the brawny paper towels guy? |
| 04:01.20 | Ellipsis | yeah |
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| 04:02.13 | NimbleRabit | does Dr.Dmg tooltip take into account buffs? |
| 04:02.27 | NimbleRabit | want to know if I can use it to gauge gear upgrades when raid buffed |
| 04:02.37 | Plagous | just base stats i think |
| 04:02.57 | RaydenUni | are all the 25 mans harder than KZ? |
| 04:03.24 | Plagous | i would guess so |
| 04:03.40 | Xinhuan | yes. |
| 04:03.41 | RaydenUni | what is the 1st 25 man? |
| 04:03.44 | RaydenUni | easiest? |
| 04:03.45 | Xinhuan | more coordination needed |
| 04:03.52 | Plagous | gruul's lair |
| 04:04.01 | RaydenUni | k |
| 04:04.30 | Hesselgrinch | Thanks alot Ellipsis, also now I dont have to bother my friends to experiment with these things :D |
| 04:04.44 | Hesselgrinch | should have seen me trying to config my raid frames |
| 04:04.49 | Hesselgrinch | took alot of friends :D |
| 04:04.55 | Plagous | lol |
| 04:05.02 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Ellipsis: i'm pretty hideous is all. :P |
| 04:06.01 | Ellipsis | you are? |
| 04:06.22 | Ellipsis | I'm afraid I'll need proof of that |
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| 04:08.01 | RaydenUni | lol |
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| 04:08.23 | RaydenUni | i just turned on auto query on atlasloot and guess what happened |
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| 04:10.04 | Xinhuan | disconnect loop |
| 04:10.08 | RaydenUni | yay |
| 04:10.14 | Xinhuan | alt-click on the fubar icon |
| 04:10.17 | Xinhuan | and turn it off |
| 04:10.30 | Xinhuan | trying to autoquery more than 3 links will d/c you |
| 04:10.31 | RaydenUni | apparently the fury item from ZA is a nono |
| 04:10.35 | Xinhuan | or 2 even |
| 04:10.35 | RaydenUni | oh really? |
| 04:10.43 | RaydenUni | why are some links unsafe? |
| 04:11.01 | Xinhuan | whether the links are safe or unsafe are irrelevant |
| 04:11.13 | Xinhuan | trying to request more than 2 links at a time are considered spam by the server |
| 04:11.16 | Xinhuan | and d/cs you |
| 04:11.21 | Xinhuan | for trying to datamine |
| 04:11.39 | RaydenUni | right click fubar icon doesn't give that option |
| 04:11.51 | Xinhuan | well maybe cos i said alt-rightclick |
| 04:11.54 | Xinhuan | i mean |
| 04:11.55 | Xinhuan | alt-click |
| 04:11.56 | RaydenUni | yeah but forgetting about spamming, why are some links unsafe? |
| 04:11.58 | RaydenUni | oh ok |
| 04:12.12 | Xinhuan | links are unsafe if you haven't seen it before |
| 04:12.36 | Xinhuan | by "see", i mean physically seeing it equipped on someone, or linked on some chat |
| 04:12.47 | RaydenUni | alt click dc |
| 04:12.48 | RaydenUni | d me |
| 04:12.55 | Moozh | so it has to load in some way/shape/form in order for you to be able to link it |
| 04:12.57 | RaydenUni | but why are they unsafe? |
| 04:13.03 | Xinhuan | change it to shift-click |
| 04:13.15 | Xinhuan | its a legacy issue RaydenUni |
| 04:13.17 | Moozh | they're unsafe because if you try to link datamined items, you'll get disconned |
| 04:13.32 | Xinhuan | any item the server hasn't seen before used to disconnect you if you try to request info about it from the server |
| 04:13.43 | Xinhuan | this is true and correct between patch 1.10 and 2.20 |
| 04:13.50 | Moozh | back in the day, you used to be able to alter lootlink files to 'create' items |
| 04:14.00 | Xinhuan | Moozh: you still can |
| 04:14.13 | Xinhuan | suffixID and enchantID and gemIDs aren't checked by the server |
| 04:14.19 | Xinhuan | so you still can make fake links |
| 04:14.28 | Xinhuan | say warglaith of azzinoth with 3 gems in it |
| 04:16.57 | Xinhuan | still, the unsafe link concept no longer exists, its a legacy issue |
| 04:17.18 | Xinhuan | you may now request unsafe links from the server and it won't d/c you |
| 04:17.28 | Xinhuan | linking an unsafe item will just turn it into pure text |
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| 04:19.01 | NightHawkTheSan1 | didn't they revert that change, and linking unsafe disconnects you? |
| 04:19.16 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 04:19.28 | Ellipsis | only post-2.3 links dc you live atm, at least that's what I've heard |
| 04:20.41 | Arrowmaster | i tried to request a tooltip for something from 2.3 using atlasloot and didnt get disconnected |
| 04:20.59 | Arrowmaster | i did get disconnected after trying to query a bunch of 2.3 stuff really fast though |
| 04:21.19 | Xinhuan | its anti-spam |
| 04:21.23 | Xinhuan | not to do with unsafe links |
| 04:22.05 | Xinhuan | if the server detecs you querying like 2 unsafe links in a row, it d/cs you right away |
| 04:22.44 | Xinhuan | you can verify this by trying to query andonisus |
| 04:23.15 | Xinhuan | or the green scepter shard |
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| 04:27.10 | Ellipsis | hm |
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| 04:30.31 | Ellipsis | I kinda thought when I started doing heroics my stats on damage meters would go down because there'd actually be other competent dpsers |
| 04:30.41 | Ellipsis | turns out they went up because there are finally competent tanks |
| 04:31.11 | Xinhuan | when you start doing heroics, you will soon find that there are less than 10 competent tanks on the server |
| 04:31.19 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 04:31.30 | Xinhuan | a competent tank is one that is able to hold aggro on more than 1 mob at a time |
| 04:31.57 | Ellipsis | no |
| 04:32.10 | Ellipsis | a competent tank is one that is able to hold aggro off me for the duration of the fight |
| 04:32.25 | Ellipsis | an AWESOME tank is one that can hold aggro off me on multiple targets for the duration of the fight |
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| 04:33.38 | Ellipsis | I've met about three competent tanks, and one awesome tank |
| 04:33.48 | Lukian | any druid? :D |
| 04:33.56 | Ellipsis | one of the competent ones was a druid |
| 04:34.00 | Ellipsis | the awesome one was a pally |
| 04:34.11 | Lukian | haha ezmode |
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| 04:34.47 | Xinhuan | i disagree about the part saying a paladin is an awesome tank in that regard |
| 04:34.52 | Brunera | will there be a patch next week or ? |
| 04:35.10 | Xinhuan | paladin tanks by the very nature of their aggro generation technique and method, has a clear advantage over druid/warriors in aoe tanking |
| 04:35.25 | Lukian | Brunera, hope so |
| 04:35.31 | Xinhuan | hence a pally that can hold aggro on multiple mobs is only "competent" and not "awesome" |
| 04:36.04 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: I'm not saying that a pally holding multi-mob aggro is awesome |
| 04:36.10 | Brunera | in the morogrim fight you really want a paladin to tank the murlocks |
| 04:36.10 | Ellipsis | I'm saying the pally I was with was awesome |
| 04:36.18 | Ellipsis | because he could hold aggro for an entire boss fight without me using shatter |
| 04:36.24 | Xinhuan | "the awesome one was a pally", "an AWESOME tank is one that can hold aggro off me on multiple targets for the duration of the fight" |
| 04:36.33 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Xinhuan: i'd say a pally that can hold agro on multiple mobs is "logged in" |
| 04:36.43 | Xinhuan | lol nighthawk |
| 04:36.50 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: not every pally who can multi-mob aggro is awesome, but the pally I was with *did* happen to be awesome |
| 04:37.09 | Ellipsis | he's allowed to be awesome regardless of his class |
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| 04:37.40 | Xinhuan | i'll consider a pally tank awesome only if he knows how to tank maiden :) |
| 04:37.56 | Xinhuan | (yes its doable) |
| 04:37.56 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Xinhuan: ... amusingly... I just tonight did maiden with a pally tank. |
| 04:37.58 | Ellipsis | dunno, he's not in my guild so I haven't kara'd with him :P |
| 04:38.15 | NightHawkTheSan1 | we got her on the second try, and given that this was the guilds first time in kara.. |
| 04:41.14 | RaydenUni | a pally tank in my guild ran me through bot twice in 1.t hours |
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| 04:41.54 | Brunera | where t = what? |
| 04:42.19 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i'm going to guess 5 |
| 04:44.02 | Mergitur | Hi, I'm trying to write a small addon, based on the WelcomeHome! tutorial on wowace.com, but I can't seem to address my saved variables properly. Anyone have time to help me with it? |
| 04:44.37 | Xinhuan | Stanzilla, how's the localization going ;p |
| 04:46.06 | Mergitur | http://pastebin.com/d4ff1a8bb on line 109 returns nil when I was hoping it would return 1 (seeing as it appears to be set in the config menu) |
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| 04:47.55 | Xinhuan | self.db.profile.showInChat is not self.showInChat |
| 04:48.10 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53697 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: |
| 04:48.10 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: |
| 04:48.10 | CIA-7 | - After several hours of tweaking and testing through Blizz's crazy API, finally, the debuffs now warn if you get the same one twice, many many thanks to obsidian from my guild for staying awake to help me test |
| 04:48.10 | CIA-7 | - So much work for a simple thing, be happy! :) |
| 04:48.34 | Paradox | I don't use bigwigs because I hate the name of it |
| 04:48.42 | Paradox | I think of people with, big wigs. |
| 04:48.48 | Paradox | and I don't like to think of people with big wigs |
| 04:49.16 | Funkeh` | good for you |
| 04:50.15 | ulic | I'd rather face someone with a Big Wig, then a Deadly Boss |
| 04:51.13 | Mergitur | Xinhuan: of course it's not ;) Thanks |
| 04:53.24 | Xinhuan | who came up with the name "BigWigs" anyway? |
| 04:53.38 | Funkeh` | Tekkub I would guess |
| 04:53.42 | Funkeh` | since he originally made it |
| 04:54.00 | Xinhuan | rya |
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| 04:54.18 | Tekkub | it was the usual brainstorming, no idea who acually came up with the name |
| 04:54.24 | Funkeh` | Should rename it to Deadly Boss Mods_Better |
| 04:55.36 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53698 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: remove a line of test code |
| 04:55.59 | Xinhuan | have you added the "wave composition" for hyjal trash thing? |
| 04:56.10 | Xinhuan | i saw someone post the wave listing |
| 04:56.17 | Funkeh` | nah |
| 04:56.22 | Funkeh` | I want to |
| 04:56.25 | Funkeh` | just haven't had time yet |
| 04:57.03 | Xinhuan | i like to call wave 6 of azgalor "wave of doom!" |
| 04:57.16 | Funkeh` | =) |
| 04:57.50 | Xinhuan | and the tanks gets instagibbed and they will scream WhereTF is the grounding totems?? |
| 04:58.55 | Paradox | get em to pop reflect or whatever the fuck it's called |
| 04:59.07 | Xinhuan | can only reflect 1 spell |
| 04:59.14 | Xinhuan | there's 8 shadowy necromancers |
| 05:01.04 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk: think you cold point me to what line or w/e I would have to edit to change the name of somebody in my AutoSend rules? |
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| 05:02.00 | NimbleRabit | my character got his named changed lol |
| 05:02.24 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 05:02.46 | hyperChipmunk | just do a search/replace in your saved variables file |
| 05:03.31 | hyperChipmunk | log out, go to wowdir/WTF/Account/<ACCOUNTNAME>/SavedVariables/BulkMail.lua and change the name |
| 05:03.38 | hyperChipmunk | save it and then log back in |
| 05:03.46 | Arrowmaster | i was tempted to make a mod to be able to copy like all ace2 char profiles to a different char profile to make it easyer to use ptr |
| 05:03.59 | Moozh | well |
| 05:04.05 | Moozh | i can't cast blessing of kings on a level 1 |
| 05:04.19 | Moozh | so i'll have to level to 10, take careful note of health and stamina increase, and then try again and compare results |
| 05:04.24 | Xinhuan | really? |
| 05:04.31 | Moozh | ja |
| 05:04.33 | Arrowmaster | is DMF up? |
| 05:04.56 | hyperChipmunk | you could edit the var directly from in-game, but i'd trust doing it this way better |
| 05:04.56 | Moozh | i'll get to the bottom of this |
| 05:05.14 | Moozh | and replicate the test with another class |
| 05:05.26 | Xinhuan | news from Hellgate:London - the copy of the client on the DVD rom is actually the beta client - hence the level cap is still at lvl 22 |
| 05:05.29 | Arrowmaster | Moozh: darkmoon faire stam buff |
| 05:05.40 | Xinhuan | and Flagship Studios hasn't released patch 0 yet - where patch 0 is the "retail patch" |
| 05:05.49 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:05.58 | Arrowmaster | what failure |
| 05:05.59 | Moozh | it'll take me longer to find a darkmoon fair and get the correct buff than to just grind to 10 |
| 05:06.22 | Arrowmaster | Moozh: darkmoon faire starts on monday |
| 05:06.31 | Moozh | i'm impatient :P |
| 05:06.33 | Arrowmaster | wowwiki has the steps to get each buff |
| 05:06.55 | Moozh | and i don't know when the ptr is closing |
| 05:07.00 | Moozh | and my account will be inactive soon |
| 05:07.05 | Moozh | cuz i'm poor |
| 05:07.20 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53699 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: Use the timeleft for the bar instead of 15 seconds |
| 05:07.47 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk: thanks I'll do that |
| 05:08.03 | Arrowmaster | god damnit this is really starting to fucking annoy me |
| 05:08.17 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck do you turn off the popup in duribilityfu |
| 05:08.53 | Brunera | there is a popup? |
| 05:09.32 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 05:09.44 | Arrowmaster | every damn time i open a vendor that can repair |
| 05:09.58 | Arrowmaster | (and im not at 100%) |
| 05:10.15 | hyperChipmunk | heck i just let it autorepair |
| 05:10.27 | Arrowmaster | automation does my autorepair for me |
| 05:10.38 | Xinhuan | doesn't hurt to have 2 addons autorepair |
| 05:10.42 | Xinhuan | you only pay once |
| 05:10.58 | Cyrez | Is a 3.1K crit on Chain Heal pretty good? |
| 05:11.14 | Moozh | is it the main heal? |
| 05:11.17 | Moozh | the first one? |
| 05:11.41 | Moozh | i'm in all kara/heroic gear, and my first chain heal crits for 4.4k |
| 05:11.48 | Cyrez | Oooo. |
| 05:11.54 | Moozh | with wrath of air as the only buff |
| 05:12.12 | Moozh | !char US Kel'Thuzad Vozmos |
| 05:12.14 | ThraeBot | Moozh: Vozmos, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/5/56). 7749 HP; 10514 Mana; 238 mana regen; 111 mp5; 9004 Armour; 4.11% melee crit; 146 +spell dmg; 1636 +heal; 4.11% dodge; 5.00% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 672 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2y47cf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3azpju ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 21:16:22 2007 EST ]] |
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| 05:15.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | the first jump of my chain heals hit for ~2.3k, so would crit for 3.5ish, so i'd say 3.1k crit on the first chain heal jump is reasonable for heroic/early kara gear level |
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| 05:22.05 | testify | What would the "General" bar group represent in the ClassTimer addon? |
| 05:22.30 | Ellipsis | untargeted stuff |
| 05:22.31 | Gngsk | general settingsn that apply to all bar sets |
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| 05:23.02 | Ellipsis | you know what's lulz? |
| 05:23.04 | testify | Gngsk: I don't see how that would work, it's a completely different set of bars that is displayed |
| 05:23.08 | Coruss | evenin folks |
| 05:23.11 | Coruss | quick question |
| 05:23.22 | Ellipsis | UI screenshots where they've hidden all their action buttons due to keybinding them, but they still have the micro menu and bag bars visible. |
| 05:23.32 | Gngsk | k, maybe ellipsis is right, I always took it as that. I thought classtimer required a unit because it worked off of buff/debuff api |
| 05:23.47 | Coruss | I've seen lots of people with an addon that converts the cooldown animation on the blizz UI to numbers instead of the animation, anyone know what addon does that? and if there's an ace'd addon that does it? |
| 05:24.02 | Ellipsis | testify: an example for a case where I've seen it happen is the timer for my shadowfury stun - it's an AE so there's no particular target or buffs/debuffs involved, but the stun is still a timable event |
| 05:24.18 | Ellipsis | Coruss: OmniCC |
| 05:24.33 | Coruss | is it ace'd? |
| 05:24.38 | Ellipsis | does it matter? |
| 05:24.41 | Gngsk | Shows buffs/debuffs for your General. |
| 05:24.50 | Gngsk | how descriptive -_- |
| 05:24.57 | testify | Ellipsis: ahh |
| 05:25.11 | Coruss | buffs/debuffs? |
| 05:25.17 | testify | Yeah that makes sense, keeps time for a lot of AoE effects |
| 05:25.20 | Coruss | I mean cooldown numbers on the buttons |
| 05:25.23 | Gngsk | General MacArthur will return in 5s! |
| 05:25.33 | Ellipsis | Coruss, he was talking about something else |
| 05:25.33 | Coruss | not buff durations |
| 05:25.56 | Coruss | *shakes head* sorry, sleepy |
| 05:26.29 | Coruss | thanks for the info Ellipsis |
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| 05:26.32 | Gngsk | when I asked ominous to add distract to ClassTimer he said he couldn't because it didn't produce a debuff |
| 05:26.39 | Gngsk | sounds like it would fall under the general case though |
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| 05:27.14 | testify | Do you know of a way to set it up so that I can constantly display the bars for all of my debuffs regardless of target and just have the name displayed instead? |
| 05:27.26 | Gngsk | AllInOne |
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| 05:28.29 | Thelyna | stupid question: where do I get the latest wau? |
| 05:28.32 | testify | from what I understand of AllinOne it just takes all of the timers from each group and puts them into one group |
| 05:28.43 | Coruss | ok, hopefully my client can stop crashing now, thanks again Ellipsis |
| 05:28.47 | Coruss | night all |
| 05:28.53 | Gngsk | isn't that what you're asking for? |
| 05:29.11 | testify | but a previously targetted mob that is dotted wouldn't be displayed in any of those groups |
| 05:29.11 | Gngsk | or do you want the bars to be there even if you don't have the debuff up? |
| 05:29.26 | Gngsk | right it won't work unless it's set to a target |
| 05:29.32 | Gngsk | it reads the debuff duration from a unit |
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| 05:30.00 | Gngsk | you want something else, like chronometer or natur |
| 05:30.07 | testify | What I want is a list of dots and the name of the units for each dot regardless of who I've targetted |
| 05:30.16 | Gngsk | you can't get that with classtimer |
| 05:30.45 | testify | The problem with natur, as far as I remember, you can't filter by the debuffs that you've applied |
| 05:30.55 | Gngsk | I use ClassTimer :P |
| 05:31.22 | Brunera | tried sorrenstimers? |
| 05:31.27 | testify | I hate tabbing through targets just to see if my dots are up |
| 05:31.33 | testify | nope |
| 05:32.04 | Gngsk | how many targets do you keep dots up on at a time? |
| 05:32.08 | Gngsk | 3+? |
| 05:32.41 | testify | well I can usually apply to around 3 before I have to restart applying |
| 05:32.53 | testify | but that all depends on haste buffs too |
| 05:34.17 | Gngsk | have you tried DoTimer? |
| 05:36.08 | testify | I'll try that and DoTDoTDoT |
| 05:36.13 | Mergitur | Spellreminder keeps track of dots on multiple targets as well |
| 05:36.20 | Mergitur | but it keeps them all together in one bunch |
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| 05:36.45 | testify | Mergitur: yeah that's more or less what I want |
| 05:37.50 | Kalman| | testify: More than welcome to talk to me about DotDotDot if you run into anything you like/dislike/bugs. |
| 05:38.35 | Xelopheris | grr, priest going afk right as wave 8 of azgalor trash goes down is not a good thing... |
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| 05:41.04 | testify | Kalman|: will do |
| 05:43.10 | testify | Oh, and one big requirement to what I'm looking for is that I can tell my debuffs apart from other peoples (ie, I want to know which of the 5 shadow word: pains are mine on the poor warrior in arena) |
| 05:43.25 | testify | So I guess I'll just try them out and see what's what |
| 05:43.46 | Mergitur | Time for question number two :) Right now I have the check for how much mana I'm missing hooked to COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE, but I'm assuming that will end up being a load of unecessary checks in a 25-man, and is it a big problem? |
| 05:43.55 | Mergitur | testify: usually the best way to find out what you like the best :) |
| 05:44.37 | testify | It sucks though, when there's 7 different mods that could potentally do what I want |
| 05:45.27 | testify | not to mention it's tough convincing another priest to go dot up mobs with me to test it out :-) |
| 05:46.04 | Mergitur | testify: I think most addons will only show your dots? |
| 05:46.59 | Brunera | 10k needles got to be the worst place to mine in |
| 05:47.34 | NightHawkTheSan1 | c |
| 05:47.51 | NightHawkTheSan1 | er, mt. |
| 05:50.43 | Brunera | testify: sorrenstimers gives you a timer on each mob |
| 05:50.56 | Funkeh` | later |
| 05:53.38 | Guillotine | does SimpleHTML obey wacky rules when you give it SetPoint or SetWidth? Doesn't seem to wrap correctly |
| 05:54.30 | Ellipsis | testify: sorry this is a bit late, but I think you probably will find DoTimer fits your needs best |
| 05:54.52 | Ellipsis | I've used pretty much everything out there, and for multi-target dot tracking, it's still the best |
| 05:55.04 | testify | Bah, I remember now why classtimer is what I'm using |
| 05:55.35 | testify | or at least why I tab target |
| 05:55.57 | Ellipsis | why? |
| 05:56.07 | testify | there's no way of telling which mob has what spell timer if they're all the same name |
| 05:58.07 | testify | But I do like the warning that spelltimer gives me |
| 05:58.17 | aestil | !vs us darkspear aestil us cenarius ellipsis |
| 05:58.17 | testify | err spellreminder |
| 05:58.21 | ThraeBot | aestil: Aestil vs Ellipsis! A L70 priest and a L70 warlock square off!; 19/0/42 vs 43/0/18; Aestil wins by 704 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 05:58.27 | aestil | awe. |
| 05:58.41 | aestil | it was a close fight. |
| 05:58.46 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you shadow, aestil ? |
| 05:58.56 | aestil | 19/0/42? as noted above. |
| 05:59.05 | aestil | !c us darkspear aestil |
| 05:59.06 | ThraeBot | aestil: Aestil, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (19/0/42). 8271 HP; 9060 Mana; 179 mana regen; 35 mp5; 118 spell crit; 172 spell hit; 959 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1013); 113 shadow dmg (1072); 4.82% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1631 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bstrt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mgyd8 ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 22:02:27 2007 EST ]] |
| 05:59.11 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i dont know priest trees that well |
| 05:59.42 | testify | 42 in shadow? |
| 05:59.49 | testify | that's REALLY lacking |
| 06:00.50 | aestil | testify: lol. |
| 06:00.55 | aestil | enlighten me. |
| 06:01.24 | aestil | did i miss funky? |
| 06:01.30 | aestil | damn. |
| 06:01.37 | aestil | i wanted to complain about al'ar again. |
| 06:01.47 | ZealotOnAStick | !vs us blackhand tenebra us darkspear aestil |
| 06:01.50 | ThraeBot | ZealotOnAStick: Tenebra vs Aestil! A L70 warlock and a L70 priest square off!; 44/0/17 vs 19/0/42; Aestil wins by 309 TBRs! |
| 06:02.17 | ZealotOnAStick | !vs us blackhand tenebra us cenarius ellipsis |
| 06:02.18 | ThraeBot | ZealotOnAStick: Tenebra vs Ellipsis! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 44/0/17 vs 43/0/18; Tenebra wins by 396 TBRs! |
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| 06:05.12 | testify | Wand spec, spirit tap, 3/5 imp mb? |
| 06:05.31 | testify | unbreakable will is useless for a dwarf |
| 06:05.45 | testify | ...so I guess I can see why wand spec |
| 06:06.11 | testify | but spirit tap? |
| 06:07.09 | testify | nice gear though, I wish I could get to the point where I can live with one shadow focus |
| 06:08.51 | ZealotOnAStick | I think Thraebot is on crack. I just looked at Aestil's profile, no way he should beat me. |
| 06:09.21 | Xinhuan | !vs us blackrock xinhuan us darkspear aestil |
| 06:09.22 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: xinhuan vs aestil! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? xinhuan's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
| 06:09.29 | Xinhuan | fail |
| 06:09.35 | Xinhuan | !vs us blackrock xinhuan us darkspear aestil |
| 06:09.36 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: I just said that 14s ago. |
| 06:09.49 | Xinhuan | !vs us darkspear aestil us blackrock xinhuan |
| 06:09.55 | Xinhuan | fine? |
| 06:09.55 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Aestil vs Xinhuan! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 19/0/42 vs 17/0/44; Aestil wins by 739 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 06:11.52 | RaydenUni | what sort of things get auctioned for cheap sometimes? |
| 06:13.17 | Xinhuan | anything someone wants to get rid of in a hurry |
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| 06:38.10 | testify | !vs us tichondrius xantims us darkspear aestil |
| 06:38.12 | ThraeBot | testify: Xantims vs Aestil! Two 70 priests square off!; 20/0/41 vs 19/0/42; Aestil wins by 859 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 06:39.40 | testify | yes, the bot is on crack |
| 06:47.21 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53700 10BankStack/core.lua: BankStack: Fix IsSpecialtyBag. |
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| 06:49.17 | Orionshock | morning all |
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| 06:59.22 | Orionshock | jello all |
| 07:02.05 | Mergitur | morning |
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| 07:06.32 | Mergitur | Is there any howto or tutorial on using SinkLib? |
| 07:09.37 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53701 10Automaton/ (. Automaton.toc modules/Flight.lua): |
| 07:09.37 | CIA-7 | Automaton: |
| 07:09.38 | CIA-7 | -Fixed flight module (missing AceDebug) |
| 07:09.38 | CIA-7 | -Added FuBarPlugin-2.0 and Dewdrop-2.0 to svn:externals and TOC |
| 07:09.38 | CIA-7 | -Added fubar plugin, with right click dropdown menu |
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| 07:12.17 | Lukian | ooo nice Automaton update :D |
| 07:16.04 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53702 10ItemRackFu/ItemRackFu.toc: |
| 07:16.04 | CIA-7 | ItemRackFu: |
| 07:16.04 | CIA-7 | -Added tsvn:logtemplate and svn:externals |
| 07:16.04 | CIA-7 | -Upped TOC to 20200 since ItemRack is now compatible with 2.2 |
| 07:17.02 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53703 10Automaton/Automaton.toc: |
| 07:17.02 | CIA-7 | Automaton: |
| 07:17.02 | CIA-7 | -Changed Dewdrop-2.0 in TOC to DewdropLib |
| 07:18.21 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53704 10ItemRackFu/: |
| 07:18.21 | CIA-7 | ItemRackFu: |
| 07:18.21 | CIA-7 | -Added tsvn:logtemplate and svn:externals (last commit didnt stick) |
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| 07:46.23 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53705 10BankStack/ (config.lua core.lua local.enUS.lua sort.lua): |
| 07:46.23 | CIA-7 | BankStack: |
| 07:46.23 | CIA-7 | -I had misunderstood GetItemInfo's returns -- the inventory slot for weapons/armor is literally INVTYPE_FOO, not the global [INVTYPE_FOO]. |
| 07:46.23 | CIA-7 | -On that note, some weapons/armor don't have equip locations. |
| 07:46.23 | CIA-7 | -Add options to sort junk and soul shards to the back of the bags. |
| 07:46.24 | CIA-7 | -link_to_id now returns a number instead of a string. |
| 07:46.28 | CIA-7 | -Move binding names into locale file. |
| 07:48.22 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 07:48.53 | many | sleep |
| 07:51.14 | CIA-7 | 03speeddymon * r53706 10Automaton/Core.lua: |
| 07:51.14 | CIA-7 | Automaton: |
| 07:51.14 | CIA-7 | -Accidentally forgot to add the changes to core.lua to the SVN folder, so here is the commit that gives you the fubar icon |
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| 07:57.49 | Orionshock | there anyone here on the ptr thats had a good look at the guild bank stuff? |
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| 08:14.26 | CIA-7 | 03ensabahnur * r53707 10Automaton/modules/Unshapeshift.lua: |
| 08:14.26 | CIA-7 | Automaton: |
| 08:14.26 | CIA-7 | - added German Translation for the Unshapeshift module |
| 08:17.43 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53708 10BankStack/sort.lua: |
| 08:17.43 | CIA-7 | BankStack: |
| 08:17.43 | CIA-7 | -Logic is tricky: "not (a_id or b_id)" => "(not a_id) or (not b_id)" |
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| 08:22.15 | Xinhuan | "not (a_id or b_id)" => "(not a_id) or (not b_id)" is incorrect by demorgan's law |
| 08:22.29 | Xinhuan | brb :) |
| 08:24.31 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53710 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 08:24.31 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 08:24.31 | CIA-7 | Babble-Tradeskill-2.2 deDE: Alchemy Recipes: alphabetical order (equal to enUS), some fixes, added Mad Alchemist's Potion |
| 08:24.31 | CIA-7 | Babble-Tradeskill-2.2 deDE: Enchanting Recipes: fix |
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| 08:27.14 | Orionshock | ~demorgan's law |
| 08:29.13 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Morgan's_laws |
| 08:29.15 | Kalroth | :p |
| 08:29.39 | Xinhuan | its just a law/proof stating that "not (a or b)" is equivalent to "(not a) and (not b)' |
| 08:30.04 | Xinhuan | simiarly, "not (a and b)" is equivalent to "(not a) or (not b)" |
| 08:30.44 | Nargiddley | it was probably changing one to the other to change the meaning, wouldnt be much of a bugfix if it did the same thing :P |
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| 08:33.25 | Lukian | Is there an inventory item addon like Sanity that you can check what someone else has? :/ |
| 08:33.51 | Xinhuan | the closest thing is called CT_Raid |
| 08:33.56 | Kalroth | oRA2 |
| 08:34.03 | Lukian | no that's no good |
| 08:34.11 | Lukian | I want to know what pants a mate has in their healing set. |
| 08:34.22 | Xinhuan | www.wowarmory.com |
| 08:34.28 | Lukian | IN THEIR HEALING SET |
| 08:34.46 | Xinhuan | you realise you are asking for "personal information" that is not publicly available otherwise? |
| 08:34.49 | Nargiddley | inspect them when they have it on |
| 08:34.53 | Lukian | They currently have their dps gear on |
| 08:34.57 | Xinhuan | no addon is written to publicise such information |
| 08:35.17 | Lukian | Xinhuan, a option list to serve only to certain characters would be fine |
| 08:35.26 | Xinhuan | there is no such addon to date then |
| 08:36.24 | Xinhuan | the closest thing would maybe be WoWEquip, where its like a ingame ct-profiles where you can save/load equipment sets, copy from target, and send/receive such profiles between users |
| 08:36.36 | Wobin_ | It would require everyone to use it and store their info |
| 08:36.42 | Wobin_ | which most people couldn't be bothered doing |
| 08:37.15 | Mergitur | Wowdigger would do it if it was uploaded and made public, I think |
| 08:37.27 | Mergitur | at least you can have different profiels of gear for your character there |
| 08:38.54 | Lukian | actually wowequip is probably the easiest |
| 08:38.55 | Lukian | ty |
| 08:39.49 | Orionshock | toad |
| 08:39.51 | Orionshock | .... |
| 08:44.56 | CIA-7 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r53711 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:44.56 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Recycle DropdownGroup tables |
| 08:44.56 | CIA-7 | AceGUI: Fix Scrollbar handling over refreshes |
| 08:45.27 | CIA-7 | 03moonsorrow * r53712 10XRS/ (XRS.lua localizations/enUS.lua): |
| 08:45.27 | CIA-7 | XRS: |
| 08:45.27 | CIA-7 | - added patch by Karloth. Limit buff checks to groups 1-5 (25) or 1-2 (10) if enabled |
| 08:45.36 | Kalroth | >< |
| 08:46.18 | CIA-7 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r53713 10Ace3/tests/AceGUITest/test.lua: AceGUITest: Garbage being created in the test addon makes tracking it in the Libs hard.... |
| 08:46.47 | Ozguli | did the /camp ever have a function? |
| 08:47.05 | Orionshock | historical sake |
| 08:47.23 | Orionshock | it immediately logs you out if your resting |
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| 08:51.47 | Ozguli | but it also disconnects you if you aren't |
| 08:53.29 | Orionshock | that don't make no sense |
| 08:53.48 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 08:54.47 | Wobin_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEqZkglTVYE |
| 08:54.57 | Wobin_ | Now -that- is some good halloween costuming |
| 08:56.15 | Ellipsis | heh |
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| 09:13.16 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel * r53714 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: Threat-1.0: NPC/Illidan: make sure flames always has a value, in case someone misses the event that summons them |
| 09:14.17 | evl | Anyone from Iceland here? :P |
| 09:14.53 | Ozguli | Orionshock go and try it |
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| 09:25.25 | Cyrez | My roommate says that a 2.26 second Chain Heal is pointless. |
| 09:25.52 | Ellipsis | tell him his mom disagreed when she was in your raid last night |
| 09:26.05 | Cyrez | lol |
| 09:26.35 | Cyrez | Spell Haste FTW. |
| 09:27.41 | Cyrez | 0.24 seconds would make a hell of a difference. |
| 09:29.27 | evl | not if you have 200ms latency |
| 09:29.32 | evl | people tend to forget that :P |
| 09:29.40 | cncfanatics | its still µ0.24 secs won |
| 09:29.42 | Cyrez | Thank goodness for cable. |
| 09:29.54 | cncfanatics | with or without latency there's a net gain of 0.24 |
| 09:30.07 | cncfanatics | and if u use stopcasting macros u won't get delayed by latecy either way |
| 09:30.36 | starlon | brain lag ftl |
| 09:30.46 | CIA-7 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r53715 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: |
| 09:30.46 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Colorpicker no longer appears behind the frame |
| 09:30.46 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.52 | Cyrez | My brain doesn't lag, fortunately. |
| 09:31.04 | Cyrez | It's in turbo pretty much continuously. |
| 09:31.08 | Ellipsis | my brain sometimes...huh? |
| 09:31.24 | Ellipsis | er, yeah...cuts out and stuff |
| 09:31.38 | starlon | you should get that checked |
| 09:31.48 | Ellipsis | I should wha? |
| 09:31.51 | starlon | braindead moments suck |
| 09:36.32 | omega | I'm having a braindead week |
| 09:39.09 | Grum | Ellipsis: selective memory ftw |
| 09:41.00 | Orionshock | <3 http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9629.0;topicseen |
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| 09:44.06 | Ozguli | so NECB is the best addon around for showing dots, hots, cooldowns (DR), buffs, whatever |
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| 09:44.38 | Kalroth | Orionshock: plz how du u get combbat datta?? |
| 09:45.29 | Orionshock | lol fk if i know, i'd use the wiki and find out :P |
| 09:45.37 | Kalroth | It was sarcasm :( |
| 09:45.54 | Orionshock | lol so was mine :P |
| 09:47.38 | Kalroth | Oh :) |
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| 09:54.19 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53716 10ClosetGnome_Tooltip/ (9 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 09:54.19 | CIA-7 | ClosetGnome_Tooltip: |
| 09:54.19 | CIA-7 | - new: added tooltip menu to standard CloseGnome Menu |
| 09:54.19 | CIA-7 | - tooltip menu options: |
| 09:54.19 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.20 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.22 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:11.32 | Arcaia | need shaman =( |
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| 10:17.36 | Ozguli | how do I scan item links? |
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| 10:21.40 | Adys | Any addon that integrates item ID/Icon and maybe stack amount in the item tooltip? |
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| 10:27.40 | vhaarr | ~seen kunda |
| 10:28.09 | purl | vhaarr: i haven't seen 'kunda' |
| 10:28.14 | vhaarr | right |
| 10:28.31 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53717 10ClosetGnome/locales/esES.lua: ClosetGnome: esES fix - needs translation |
| 10:30.20 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53718 10BankStack/ (config.lua core.lua sort.lua): |
| 10:30.20 | CIA-7 | BankStack: |
| 10:30.20 | CIA-7 | -Add disabled-by-default optimization of movelist ("/bankstack config optimize") |
| 10:30.20 | CIA-7 | -Extra checks to moving in case of slow responses. |
| 10:34.39 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r53719 10ClosetGnome_Tooltip/ (9 files): |
| 10:34.39 | CIA-7 | ClosetGnome_Tooltip: Revert useless bloat to a simple thing |
| 10:34.39 | CIA-7 | Rabbit and Ammo want you on IRC before you bloat something beyond recognition |
| 10:35.24 | Orionshock | lol |
| 10:35.38 | Ellipsis | I lol'ed |
| 10:37.02 | Diao | lol |
| 10:37.19 | Corgan | lol |
| 10:38.25 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:39.00 | Kalroth | Ammo is a meanie |
| 10:39.17 | [Ammo] | no I'm not |
| 10:39.45 | Kalroth | There's nothing wrong with enterprising an application, it can only make it better! |
| 10:39.52 | Ellipsis | and more enterprisey! |
| 10:39.55 | [Ammo] | it was badly coded |
| 10:40.05 | [Ammo] | enable/disable toggle? don't want it, don't install it |
| 10:40.08 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 10:40.11 | many | enterprise, baby! |
| 10:40.12 | Kalroth | Sure, look at Windows! |
| 10:40.44 | Kalroth | Anyways, it's ok to bloat stuff while on IRC then?! |
| 10:40.49 | Corgan | lol |
| 10:40.57 | Ellipsis | yes, because then someone can slap you for it |
| 10:41.37 | Orionshock | Ellipsis>yes, because then someone can *Bitch*slap you for it << Fixed |
| 10:41.46 | Kalroth | I'd say that reversing your changes while calling you a VB coder on the SVN is a decent slap too :P |
| 10:44.58 | Grum | would anyone here have experience running their own private wow-server? |
| 10:45.31 | Kalroth | .. |
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| 10:46.45 | [Ammo] | Grum: not on this channel, take that crap somewhere else |
| 10:48.09 | Zhinjio | Re |
| 10:48.19 | _aLF | Hi, I have one question about the next function : what's happen when a write occurs to the table, does the next function will give all the values ? |
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| 10:48.37 | Grum | [Ammo]: erm? |
| 10:48.44 | Grum | its a perfectly normal question right? |
| 10:48.45 | [Ammo] | _aLF: the effects are not determined |
| 10:48.53 | [Ammo] | Grum: no it's not |
| 10:49.09 | [Ammo] | Grum: this channel is about the normal WoW servers and no discussion will take place on hacked private servers |
| 10:49.21 | Corgan | lol hacked |
| 10:49.25 | Grum | this channel is about addons and people playing wow |
| 10:49.29 | Grum | but sure |
| 10:49.34 | Kalroth | Reverse engineered then, Corgan :) |
| 10:49.35 | [Ammo] | it's not about private / illegal servers |
| 10:49.37 | Grum | else you will jsut press your ban button |
| 10:49.41 | Wobin | private servers are against the TOS |
| 10:49.57 | Grum | i was just curious about the current state of them |
| 10:50.08 | Grum | they could prove really useful learning tools for raid-encounters for example |
| 10:50.08 | Wobin | and so are not considered appropriate topics on the majority of the normal Wow channels |
| 10:50.12 | [Ammo] | _aLF: you best not inject stuff in a table while next()ing over it |
| 10:50.28 | Corgan | regardless, this isn't the place |
| 10:51.07 | _aLF | [Ammo], ok thanks, I wish I could do, to avoid lag with a long loop |
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| 11:21.19 | Orionshock | quiet in here tonight.... |
| 11:21.41 | JoshBorke | good morning |
| 11:21.43 | SunTsu | All asleep, shhhh |
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| 11:23.27 | cncfanatics | meh, I just had lunch :p |
| 11:23.42 | JoshBorke | i just woke up :-D |
| 11:23.51 | Orionshock | im trying to kill aran |
| 11:24.24 | SunTsu | Orionshock: "Do or do not, there is no try" ;) |
| 11:24.35 | Orionshock | we are not killing aran |
| 11:27.15 | evl | I need a new addon to play with! |
| 11:28.08 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53720 10ammoDurability/Durability.lua: ammoDurability: armored man is now movable and restores correctly. |
| 11:37.42 | Orionshock | >.- |
| 11:37.54 | Orionshock | i hate kara progression... |
| 11:38.26 | Orionshock | in a 10 man group is 500% easier to piss people off |
| 11:40.42 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53721 10ammoDurability/Durability.lua: ammoDurability: move claiming and releasing of armored man to separate functions and add /dur slashcommand to test it |
| 11:43.58 | Orionshock | ... "people this ... " .... " ... people that .... " ... |
| 11:44.26 | Orionshock | what raid leader need to do is reilize that "People" they are talking about is 10 wide and it gets personal very very quickly |
| 11:44.49 | Orionshock | ... in a 40 man group it was ok, people where rather large... and well easier to manage. |
| 11:45.00 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53722 10ClosetGnome_TooltipX/ (10 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 11:45.00 | CIA-7 | ClosetGnome_TooltipX: initial commit |
| 11:45.00 | CIA-7 | kunda rip from ClosetGnome_Tooltip by Ammo, Rabbit THANKS!!! |
| 11:45.00 | CIA-7 | - tooltip menu to standard CloseGnome Menu @Ammo: THIS IS USEFUL |
| 11:45.01 | CIA-7 | - tooltip menu options: |
| 11:45.01 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:45.03 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:45.20 | Orionshock | i feel a svn kick comming on.... |
| 11:45.35 | Wobin | >< |
| 11:45.37 | Lukian | tooltip xtended? :o |
| 11:45.51 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r53723 10MrPlow/ (21 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:45.51 | CIA-7 | MrPlow: Moved locale files to separate folder |
| 11:45.51 | CIA-7 | removed PlowField.lua |
| 11:46.25 | Lukian | - enable/disable (DEFAULT: enable) @Ammo: THIS IS USEFUL <- Agreed |
| 11:48.32 | Wobin | Well, to be honest, he should have done that in the first place |
| 11:48.36 | Wobin | and made his own version |
| 11:49.16 | [Ammo] | he's a moron |
| 11:49.20 | [Ammo] | enable/disable is not useful |
| 11:49.25 | [Ammo] | don't want it, don't install it |
| 11:49.30 | JoshBorke | [Ammo]: you're a moron |
| 11:49.39 | [Ammo] | hey josh, get back in your shortbus |
| 11:49.40 | JoshBorke | :-D |
| 11:49.42 | Lukian | [Ammo], Switcher.. |
| 11:49.44 | JoshBorke | i never left :_P |
| 11:49.45 | Wobin | JoshBorke: Well you see, it takes one to know one |
| 11:49.47 | Lukian | thus, useful. |
| 11:49.51 | Wobin | So Ammo would know |
| 11:50.01 | Wobin | and obviously, clearly, so do you =) |
| 11:50.51 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 11:51.18 | Lukian | oh switcher has it's own enabled option |
| 11:51.24 | Lukian | wow.. that is useless then :p |
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| 12:06.32 | Hjalte | Antiarc, you here? |
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| 12:11.15 | Lukian | !char US Jubei'Thos Glen |
| 12:11.16 | ThraeBot | Lukian: Glen is not the character you are looking for! |
| 12:15.22 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53724 10ammoDurability/Durability.lua: |
| 12:15.22 | CIA-7 | ammoDurability: smooth gradient coloring of armored man textures depending on durability instead of blizzards 3 step solution. |
| 12:15.22 | CIA-7 | Threshold needs to be made configurable and splitting into average treshhold for showing the man and individual threshold for showing. |
| 12:17.57 | cncfanatics | :o, ain't having an author's name in the mod bad practice ? [Ammo] ? :p |
| 12:18.06 | [Ammo] | check the first commit of that addon |
| 12:18.11 | [Ammo] | it says it's a working title |
| 12:19.02 | cncfanatics | oh nvm then :) |
| 12:19.05 | Lukian | call it SmoothDurability :p |
| 12:19.09 | [Ammo] | it does more |
| 12:19.14 | [Ammo] | and is not done yet |
| 12:19.17 | [Ammo] | but it's coming along quite nice |
| 12:19.24 | [Ammo] | I wanted to name it just Durability |
| 12:19.32 | [Ammo] | and it's called that internally |
| 12:20.36 | cncfanatics | Ace3 about ready I guess btw ? |
| 12:20.47 | [Ammo] | it's Alpha |
| 12:20.58 | [Ammo] | (just not put a zip up yet) |
| 12:22.09 | cncfanatics | hmmm, if I wasn't rerolling i'd make a flexbar2 ace3 branch |
| 12:23.39 | evl | [Ammo]: http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/53762d1193372488-funny-strange-random-pics-news_funnyessaycx9.jpg |
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| 12:27.47 | cncfanatics | lol evl |
| 12:27.52 | cncfanatics | I hope its fake :p |
| 12:28.28 | Lukian | evl: and page 2? |
| 12:28.39 | evl | no idea, just got it pasted :P |
| 12:28.43 | Lukian | (the one we can see because it's scanned) |
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| 12:30.51 | Lukian | lol @ "Inversion of the phallus" though :p |
| 12:30.58 | Lukian | what a lame essay attempt |
| 12:31.06 | Nefarion | haha, that's awesome |
| 12:31.14 | Ozguli | worth more than 0% anyway |
| 12:31.51 | Lukian | depends on the criteria |
| 12:32.08 | Lukian | The brief might have been to review a 'movie-length' film |
| 12:32.32 | vhaarr | the essay itself is not very well written |
| 12:32.47 | vhaarr | even if it fit the assignment |
| 12:33.30 | kenlyric | http://www.flickr.com/photos/wilwheaton/1400038882/in/photostream/ |
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| 12:39.41 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53725 10ammoDurability/Durability.lua: |
| 12:39.41 | CIA-7 | ammoDurability: |
| 12:39.41 | CIA-7 | - add average durability threshold for showing the armored man |
| 12:39.41 | CIA-7 | - add individual item durability threshold for coloring the items on the armored man |
| 12:39.41 | CIA-7 | - Items below the individual threshold will be gray as normal even when shown with 1 or 2 items below the average threshold |
| 12:39.52 | cncfanatics | btw ammo |
| 12:39.56 | [Ammo] | yes? |
| 12:39.59 | cncfanatics | ur durability thingy won't be anchored under the minimap will it ? |
| 12:40.04 | [Ammo] | it's movable |
| 12:40.09 | [Ammo] | and far from done |
| 12:40.29 | cncfanatics | <--- happy :) |
| 12:40.42 | cncfanatics | gonna use it when its done most probably, |
| 12:41.06 | [Ammo] | it's starting to work pretty damn well |
| 12:41.11 | [Ammo] | it needs a few settings |
| 12:41.15 | [Ammo] | but I'll work on that |
| 12:41.25 | [Ammo] | and the TinyGratuity it has can be removed in 2.3 ;) |
| 12:41.30 | [Ammo] | \o/ |
| 12:41.31 | aeon|capullo | how can i turn off bigwigs options by default? |
| 12:42.28 | Nefarion | " Rouges are overpowdered" |
| 12:42.40 | Nefarion | funniest thing i've heard all day |
| 12:43.33 | kenlyric | everyone thinks other classes are overpowered. |
| 12:43.51 | Nefarion | you missed the joke |
| 12:44.07 | kenlyric | makeup joke? |
| 12:44.13 | kenlyric | oh man |
| 12:44.28 | kenlyric | so used to the first word being wrong I missed the third one :) |
| 12:44.35 | Nefarion | lol |
| 12:44.58 | Nefarion | that's totally going to be a macrod response everytime somebody complains about 'rouges' |
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| 12:47.27 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53726 10ammoDurability/Durability.lua: |
| 12:47.27 | CIA-7 | ammoDurability: put thresholds in the saved vars |
| 12:47.27 | CIA-7 | - add characterframethreshold |
| 12:47.40 | cncfanatics | so I'm overpowdered eh ? cool |
| 12:48.00 | kenlyric | ammo has durability now? that's so much better than having to keep bags of it! |
| 12:48.06 | Tornhoof | no cnc you |
| 12:48.13 | Tornhoof | 're the necessary exception |
| 12:49.00 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, that was one of the saddest jokes I ever heard |
| 12:49.23 | kenlyric | all sons have physics jokes |
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| 12:57.24 | cncfanatics | ~dictionary Indomitable |
| 12:57.25 | purl | see dict Indomitable |
| 12:57.34 | cncfanatics | ~dict Indomitable |
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| 12:58.14 | Orionshock | hi all |
| 12:58.32 | Lukian | hi |
| 12:58.38 | Orionshock | anyone know what args are passed for "PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED"? the wikki is lacking in this regard.... |
| 12:59.16 | cncfanatics | try it out ? |
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| 13:00.09 | Orionshock | or i can go hack away at pitbull... |
| 13:01.57 | Lukian | Anyone know how Nauticus works? |
| 13:02.15 | DroolZzz | there's a faq in the readme.txt |
| 13:02.19 | Drool | oops |
| 13:04.27 | Lukian | ah ty |
| 13:04.30 | Lukian | hmm interesting |
| 13:04.46 | Lukian | it went completely out of sync after a server restart, but I guess that's expected :) |
| 13:05.41 | Droolio | it shouldn't happen because of the restart, altho it's possible the server time was messed up and it re-sync'd with the mother ship |
| 13:05.50 | Droolio | er, or auth server or whatever :) |
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| 13:06.07 | Droolio | i suspect they all sync their times to the auth server anyway |
| 13:06.12 | Lukian | ah |
| 13:06.15 | Lukian | that'd make sense |
| 13:06.29 | Lukian | awesome addon btw ^^ |
| 13:06.40 | Droolio | ty :) |
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| 13:08.07 | Lukian | Yeah, I notice it's usually no more than about 6 seconds out |
| 13:09.15 | Droolio | aye, that should improve the more people that use it. especially guild mates... |
| 13:10.09 | CIA-7 | 03rabbit * r53727 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Remove stray debug print. |
| 13:11.56 | Obelixprime | what cha talking about? |
| 13:11.56 | Lukian | Nauticus |
| 13:12.20 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r53728 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 13:12.20 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 13:12.20 | CIA-7 | - cleanup and some tweaks |
| 13:12.25 | Obelixprime | interesting |
| 13:12.36 | Obelixprime | oh, i tried perfectraid and it worked pretty weel |
| 13:12.41 | Obelixprime | to whomever suggested that |
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| 13:29.34 | Orionshock | syl wtf where you smoking when you moved WAU over to this .net stuff?? |
| 13:32.27 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.23 | Obelixprime | i get crashes every time i load it |
| 13:33.33 | Obelixprime | stupid vs2005 debugger asking me if i want to debug |
| 13:34.52 | Lukian | ouch :p |
| 13:35.10 | Lukian | maybe you have a bad build |
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| 13:38.56 | Tornhoof | actually stupid vs debugger is asking you to debug for every crashing app ;) |
| 13:39.15 | tinyboom | looks like it has something to do with the ad, as it doesn't appear every day.... |
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| 13:50.27 | CIA-7 | 03arith * r53729 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.tw.lua: |
| 13:50.27 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:50.27 | CIA-7 | - zhtw update |
| 13:51.15 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53730 10ammoDurability/Durability.lua: ammoDurability: cleanup |
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| 13:54.16 | CIA-7 | 03arith * r53731 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.tw.lua: |
| 13:54.16 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:54.16 | CIA-7 | - zhtw update |
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| 14:08.44 | Pkekyo | comment after beating portal (and watching the end-game credits): "now i have some strange emotional attachment to a FICTIONAL COMPUTER. Great......" |
| 14:09.08 | Mooz1 | kek |
| 14:09.51 | Pkekyo | sad but true |
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| 14:13.38 | Hjalte | Does anyone know, how a paladins shields effect his threat when he puts them on himself? |
| 14:14.39 | silentium | do you mean Blessing of Protection? |
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| 14:15.32 | Hjalte | Blessing of Protection and Divine Shield |
| 14:16.02 | kenlyric | one of them is just like a perfect Fade. you drop all aggro, but it comes back. |
| 14:16.16 | silentium | mobs with only physical attacks temporarily ignore the pally and chase after the next highest player on their threat list, mobs with magical attacks can still attack through BoP tho |
| 14:16.33 | Hjalte | silentium, yes, but will the threat come back? |
| 14:16.33 | kenlyric | I've heard it used to break nightbane fear. |
| 14:16.41 | kenlyric | you click it off right away. |
| 14:16.49 | Mooz1 | yes |
| 14:16.54 | silentium | BoP and DS dont reduce any permanent threat at all |
| 14:17.15 | Mooz1 | the threat is temporarily suspended from the mob's aggro table, but it can still increase during the duration of the shield, and when it wears of its put back on the mobs threat table |
| 14:17.50 | Mooz1 | a mob will never attack you if you have divine shield unless you're the ONLY thing on his threat table |
| 14:17.51 | silentium | well, when DS/BoP run off and the pally is over 110%/130% (depending on range) of the current aggro holder, the mob should come back to him |
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| 14:20.20 | silentium | hm, maybe I should try a divine shield /cancelaura macro one day, could be useful to get rid of nasty debuffs |
| 14:20.45 | cncfanatics | I used to do that all the time silentium :p |
| 14:22.01 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53732 10ammoDurability/Durability.lua: |
| 14:22.01 | CIA-7 | ammoDurability: |
| 14:22.01 | CIA-7 | - add /durability slashcommand to open configuration dialog. |
| 14:22.01 | CIA-7 | - add autorepair toggle |
| 14:22.03 | silentium | well I dont use such a thing that often as holy ;) I just spec to prot once every few weeks if some friends really need a tank and cant find anyone else |
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| 14:32.15 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r53733 10BigWigs/ (Extras/Proximity.lua Plugins/Bars.lua Plugins/BossBlock.lua): |
| 14:32.15 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 14:32.15 | CIA-7 | - zhCN typo fixed |
| 14:32.15 | CIA-7 | - (Apologize for mistake before) |
| 14:33.45 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53734 10ammoDurability/Durability.lua: ammoDurability: put the armored man tooltip at a sane position, depending on position on screen. |
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| 14:46.27 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r53735 10MrPlow/ (7 files in 2 dirs): MrPlow: amg, Ace3. |
| 14:50.31 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r53736 10CatPoints/ (EffectiveHealth.lua Tank.lua): |
| 14:50.31 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 14:50.31 | CIA-7 | - Let's remove the table name from every module this time |
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| 14:59.22 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r53737 10ammoDurability/Durability.lua: |
| 14:59.22 | CIA-7 | ammoDurability: |
| 14:59.22 | CIA-7 | - set armored man clamped to screen |
| 14:59.23 | CIA-7 | - add locking option |
| 14:59.23 | CIA-7 | - add option to reset the armored man to it's original position. |
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| 15:03.03 | CIA-7 | 03Tristan * r53738 10Enhancer/ (49 files in 14 dirs): |
| 15:03.04 | CIA-7 | Enhancer: |
| 15:03.04 | CIA-7 | - Made it so WAU should treat it as a package and unpack it. It'll let you enable/disable modules at login screen and prevent excess modules from loading at all |
| 15:04.08 | CIA-7 | 03Tristan * r53739 10Enhancer/ (bonus/ element/): |
| 15:04.08 | CIA-7 | Enhancer: |
| 15:04.08 | CIA-7 | - Removed unused files |
| 15:05.40 | Gagorian | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.40 | Gagorian | This means that a macro like: |
| 15:05.40 | Gagorian | /cast Auto Shot |
| 15:05.40 | Gagorian | will no longer be exactly equivalent to putting Auto Shot on your action bar, instead it will always try to cast Auto Shot. |
| 15:05.53 | Gagorian | So.. what does that exactly mean? |
| 15:06.26 | Tornhoof | you can not stop thhe autoshot with that macro |
| 15:06.36 | Tornhoof | button is auto shot on, auto shot off |
| 15:06.39 | sedatedChipmunk | thank the lord |
| 15:06.42 | Tornhoof | macro currently is identical |
| 15:06.47 | CIA-7 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r53740 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: small tweak |
| 15:06.50 | Tornhoof | macro now will be on on on |
| 15:06.53 | Tornhoof | no off |
| 15:07.15 | sedatedChipmunk | now i can do /cast Aspect of the Monkey in my mount macro without any craziness |
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| 15:23.53 | CIA-7 | 03ananhaid * r53741 10BigWigs/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:23.53 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 15:23.53 | CIA-7 | - zhCN fix |
| 15:24.30 | Mooz1 | W00T |
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| 15:53.09 | CIA-7 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r53742 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/ (17 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:53.09 | CIA-7 | Ace3: |
| 15:53.09 | CIA-7 | - Split off all widgets for AceGUI into separate files |
| 15:55.45 | Xinhuan | is that a good idea? |
| 15:56.24 | nevcairiel | we can version control widgets individually now |
| 15:56.26 | Xinhuan | an addon including acegui would have a subfolder with 17 files embedded |
| 15:56.59 | Xinhuan | unless you're intending this to be a method so that only selective widget files need to be included only if they are used? |
| 15:57.05 | durcyn | your tears are delicious, Xinhuan. |
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| 16:01.39 | Xinhuan | while there's no real proof, i do think loading 1 file is faster than 17 files. or 10 files instead of 170 if 10 addons embed it |
| 16:01.52 | Mooz1 | xinhuan |
| 16:02.03 | Mooz1 | the health makes sense |
| 16:02.27 | Wobin | I assume it's so you can include only the widgets you need to use |
| 16:02.30 | Wobin | instead of all of them |
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| 16:09.51 | aestil | !c us blackhand tenebra |
| 16:09.52 | ThraeBot | aestil: Tenebra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (44/0/17). 11260 HP; 8710 Mana; 129 mana regen; 185 spell crit; 223 spell hit; 1187 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (1241); 268 shadow dmg (1455); 4.68% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1265 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/299cp5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2llt2j ][ Updated: Thu Nov 1 22:05:58 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:10.32 | aestil | crack indeed |
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| 16:11.53 | Electrica | um hi lol |
| 16:11.59 | LilithWolf | hihi :> |
| 16:12.06 | LilithWolf | long time no see |
| 16:12.07 | LilithWolf | lol |
| 16:12.11 | Electrica | lol |
| 16:14.52 | xerawx | damn.. i've never been so sick of a game so fast as i am with hellgate. what a dissapointment |
| 16:15.22 | xerawx | it looks like it should have come out 3 years ago and yet there's still game breaking bugs |
| 16:15.38 | xerawx | in a word it just plain sucks |
| 16:16.10 | Electrica | awe that does suck |
| 16:16.17 | Josh_Borke | i saw 1455 shadow damage before i saw warlock |
| 16:16.35 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r53743 10MrPlow/ (. MrPlow.toc PlowEngine.lua): MrPlow: Well. PT3.1 sorting now appears to work. Let me know, eh? |
| 16:16.56 | Kody- | what do you mean it looks like it should have come out 3 years ago? |
| 16:17.10 | Electrica | probably refering to the graphics |
| 16:17.30 | Kody- | his computer must suck then because the graphics are really good on max settings |
| 16:17.58 | Kody- | the game doesn't have any depth whatsoever though |
| 16:20.47 | xerawx | actually i'm running it on max settings |
| 16:20.53 | xerawx | on a new pc |
| 16:21.06 | xerawx | the shaders and stuff are recent yes |
| 16:21.16 | Kody- | and you think it should have come out 3 years ago? |
| 16:21.25 | Kody- | you must have extremely high standards for graphics :P |
| 16:21.29 | xerawx | the models look terrible |
| 16:21.39 | xerawx | everything is cartoony and wax looking |
| 16:22.06 | xerawx | the only thing that looks at all decent is the particle effects |
| 16:23.37 | xerawx | you can see seams in the crappy "random" endless sewers |
| 16:23.56 | xerawx | the UI is ugly and clumsy |
| 16:24.14 | durcyn | enough about that, how are the adverts |
| 16:24.35 | xerawx | the whole game feels like a money grab |
| 16:24.45 | xerawx | charging a monthly fee for that crap is absurd |
| 16:24.53 | Xinhuan | lol the asia server doesn't even have Patch 0 yet |
| 16:25.04 | Xinhuan | so the lvl cap is still at lvl 22 |
| 16:25.23 | Xinhuan | because the retail version shipped with the beta client |
| 16:25.34 | Xinhuan | (including collector edition) |
| 16:25.38 | xerawx | wow |
| 16:26.11 | xerawx | well they didn't seem to fix much from the beta client anyway |
| 16:26.21 | xerawx | still horrible memory leaks |
| 16:26.27 | xerawx | crashes to the desktop at least every hour |
| 16:26.34 | Xinhuan | yeah but if you saw the IAH forums (iah is the official distributoe |
| 16:26.36 | Xinhuan | in asia |
| 16:26.49 | Xinhuan | all complaining |
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| 16:28.04 | xerawx | i can imagine.. the NA forums are pretty bad |
| 16:28.59 | xerawx | shipping the beta version, thats just low |
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| 16:35.03 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r53744 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow: added in /mrplow [stack|defrag|sort] as a temporary measure. |
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| 16:35.48 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r53745 10/tags/Ace3/: Ace3: Creating tags directory |
| 16:36.03 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r53746 10Ace3/: Ace3: Tagging Alpha Release |
| 16:36.08 | Wobin | huzzah |
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| 16:38.08 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten 07Beta * r53747 10Ace3/: Ace3: A new copy for beta development |
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| 16:39.30 | CIA-7 | 03saroz * r53748 10BigWigs/TheEye/ (Alar.lua Reaver.lua Solarian.lua): BigWigs: Replaced some UnitName("player") and added some BigWigs_Personal triggers |
| 16:39.38 | zariel | why does if itemlink ~= nil then link_to_id(itemlink) still pass nil values? :S |
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| 16:40.55 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r53749 10MrPlow/: MrPlow: Switch externals to beta Ace3 |
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| 16:46.55 | sb | *sigh* want to kill kaelthas :( |
| 16:47.21 | LilithWolf | whhhyyy |
| 16:47.23 | LilithWolf | hehe |
| 16:47.34 | LilithWolf | so fluffy and loveable |
| 16:48.48 | CIA-7 | 03saroz * r53750 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs/Kaelthas: Don't show Toy warning in phase 3,4 and 5 (Enough spam already) |
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| 16:50.48 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53751 10FlexBar2/Action/Action.lua: FlexBar2: Fix action textures to show question marks less often |
| 16:51.11 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53752 10Ace3/: |
| 16:51.11 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - Alpha |
| 16:51.11 | CIA-7 | - Deleting. New branch is Beta. Alpha has been tagged off. |
| 16:51.29 | LilithWolf | weird |
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| 17:02.52 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53753 10AutoBar/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:02.52 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: Stop the eventual certain breaking by renaming the AceConsole fork to AutoBarConsole. (The artificially |
| 17:02.52 | CIA-7 | inflated MINOR_VERSION in the fork was behind HEAD, the next change to trunk AceConsole would have broken AutoBar.) |
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| 17:04.22 | CIA-7 | 03saroz * r53754 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Anetheron.lua: BigWigs: Add "Inferno on You!" warning for Anetheron |
| 17:04.48 | Kemayo | zariel: Presumably a poorly chosen string.match pattern? |
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| 17:08.01 | Nimbal | Hi everyone |
| 17:08.31 | Hjalte | morning |
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| 17:11.45 | Nimbal | Would it make a difference in CPU and / or memory consumption whether I create a complete AceOO Object or just a smaller table with a few data fields? I think it wouldn't matter because the Object doesn't consume any more memory since the methods are only accessed via metatables. But I'd like to be sure. |
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| 17:14.21 | Industrial | WobWork: why did you switch to Ace3 Beta? Isn't the alpha to test yur addon with? :3 |
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| 17:15.04 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 17:15.29 | [Ammo] | he's free to do as he pleases |
| 17:15.45 | [Ammo] | Ace3 Alpha Released: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9638.0 |
| 17:16.31 | Industrial | er, I was just asking.. |
| 17:17.14 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53755 10AutoBar/Core.lua: |
| 17:17.14 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: If AceDebug-2.0 wasn't present, core would try to be created with AutoBarConsole-2.0 instead of 1.0. My |
| 17:17.14 | CIA-7 | fault, oops. |
| 17:17.41 | [Ammo] | I guess Wobin wants to test on cutting edge breaking stuff |
| 17:18.02 | [Ammo] | anyway, time to do some shopping for the wife, or my dinner will be very bland |
| 17:18.03 | [Ammo] | later :) |
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| 17:29.39 | rubik | what's teh name of the addon that shows the very simplifed combat log (numbers only, with icons, etc.)? i can't think of it for the life of me |
| 17:29.52 | nevcairiel | EavesDrop |
| 17:29.57 | rubik | ty! |
| 17:30.00 | Josh_Borke | BattleChat? |
| 17:30.15 | rubik | was going through the list of directories on svn trying to remember the name |
| 17:30.19 | rubik | EavesDrop it is, thanks |
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| 17:39.12 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53756 10BigBrother/localization_frFR.lua: BigBrother: frFR Update |
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| 17:50.20 | Obelixprime | ok, so i was messing around last night and got something like this |
| 17:50.20 | Obelixprime | http://i16.tinypic.com/681bln5.jpg |
| 17:50.35 | Obelixprime | making a widescreen image more widescreen didn't work out :/ |
| 17:50.41 | Mergitur | f string.match(texture, matchTexture) then |
| 17:50.42 | Mergitur | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.42 | Mergitur | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:51.25 | Josh_Borke | widescreen should not be made more widescreen =/ |
| 17:52.01 | Obelixprime | i know |
| 17:52.13 | Obelixprime | rather than using aperture, would something like eepanels be better? |
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| 17:53.34 | Mergitur | sorry about that above there :/ |
| 17:55.16 | NightHawkAtWork | hahah http://www.catandgirl.com/index.php |
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| 18:01.35 | LilithWolf | has anyone gotten the wow trading card game? |
| 18:01.49 | Obelixprime | i bought a pack of cards |
| 18:01.56 | Obelixprime | but haven't gotten much into it |
| 18:02.11 | LilithWolf | i ordered some from the website to see them |
| 18:02.37 | LilithWolf | i figure maybe they will become quite collectible |
| 18:04.17 | LilithWolf | its kinda weird though, youd have thought the cards wouldve come before the MMORPG |
| 18:04.31 | LilithWolf | but no its more like an afterthought lol |
| 18:05.08 | Obelixprime | I've played Magic: The Gathering so I'm kind of interested in playing WOW TCG but I wouldn't have anyone to play with |
| 18:05.29 | LilithWolf | why not |
| 18:05.37 | NightHawkAtWork | the card game is reasonably fun, actually |
| 18:06.01 | LilithWolf | i never got into M:tG i had friends who did i just never learned |
| 18:06.39 | Obelixprime | LilithWolf:II don't know, I just don't know of any people who would play the game other than me |
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| 18:07.38 | LilithWolf | thats too bad, i could at least talk my husband into playing since we play wow together online |
| 18:08.23 | Obelixprime | My girlfriend's the main person who stops me from buying a starter pack |
| 18:08.38 | LilithWolf | that sucks, i say find a new g/f :P |
| 18:08.47 | Obelixprime | She plays wow, so its good enough for me :P |
| 18:08.48 | LilithWolf | gamer girls pwn! |
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| 18:08.57 | LilithWolf | oh well thats not so bad |
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| 18:09.59 | NightHawkAtWork | CCGs are a bad habit anyway, they cost a lot of money :P |
| 18:11.20 | LilithWolf | true... i just spent a bunch on two starter packs lol |
| 18:11.31 | LilithWolf | shamez on mez :> |
| 18:13.25 | NightHawkAtWork | this is neat: http://www.lkozma.net/wpv/index.html |
| 18:14.29 | LilithWolf | are those people who edit wiki stuff |
| 18:14.54 | NightHawkAtWork | yes |
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| 18:15.01 | LilithWolf | weird! |
| 18:15.06 | NightHawkAtWork | its a realtime map of english wikipedia updates |
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| 18:15.37 | LilithWolf | interesting map' |
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| 18:16.45 | LilithWolf | be back shortly |
| 18:24.19 | Obelixprime | adios amigos |
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| 18:30.53 | Chompers | awesome link nighthawk |
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| 18:59.10 | Ozguli | craftlist doesn't seem to load properly |
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| 19:04.55 | Ozguli | come on, how do I get to know what's the prob and where do I report it? |
| 19:05.55 | Ozguli | "it doesn't load" just isn't the proper way to tell something is broken |
| 19:06.26 | Kemayo | Check whether there's a thread for it on the wowace.com forums. |
| 19:07.15 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53757 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:07.15 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 19:07.15 | CIA-7 | Anetheron: Capitalize you |
| 19:07.15 | CIA-7 | Kaelthas: Update description to show phase 2 only |
| 19:07.15 | CIA-7 | Solarian: Remove double personal, /bonk saroz |
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| 19:09.42 | what-K | Shirik hi and hi all |
| 19:09.52 | Shirik | hi |
| 19:10.06 | what-K | thx for the addon again |
| 19:10.23 | what-K | can u help me maybe again ? |
| 19:11.59 | what-K | i look for an ace addon lige guild event manager |
| 19:14.48 | Shirik | oh god |
| 19:14.54 | Shirik | I tried to copy GEM a while ago, it was bit... nuts |
| 19:14.59 | Shirik | GEM is pretty good |
| 19:15.01 | Shirik | why don't you like it? |
| 19:15.32 | what-K | hmm |
| 19:15.38 | what-K | i cant see my mates :D |
| 19:15.47 | what-K | is very complicatet |
| 19:15.56 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 19:15.59 | RaydenUni | i need 15 primal fire |
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| 19:22.24 | Krittick | Hrm, did the latest update of Autobar break things for anyone else? |
| 19:22.36 | deltron | keeps on doing debug type stuff for me |
| 19:23.03 | Krittick | yeah, I get something like "tried to disable but already in table" or something when I disable a button |
| 19:26.48 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r53758 10ag_UnitFrames/libs/: ag_UnitFrames: update externals to point to beta not alpha |
| 19:27.24 | NightHawkAtWork | ace3's in beta now, eh? |
| 19:27.25 | Gilded | Speaking of autobar, has anyone been able to get the fade option to work? (I fade all my bartendar bars and would like autobar to do the same)? |
| 19:27.42 | [Ammo] | NightHawkAtWork: nope, alpha was released, but agUF is used for testing fixes etc |
| 19:27.51 | [Ammo] | Alpha is in tags |
| 19:28.31 | NightHawkAtWork | [Ammo]: ah.. |
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| 19:33.57 | Saroz | Funkeh`, I took the "you" part from another mod, fix your shit |
| 19:34.02 | Krittick | Yay, deleting the SV for Autobar fixes my issues |
| 19:34.20 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 19:35.01 | Chompers | hey saroz, see you're in naxx |
| 19:35.04 | Chompers | how is it? |
| 19:35.07 | Saroz | boring as shit |
| 19:35.15 | Chompers | yeah? :< |
| 19:35.19 | Saroz | yes |
| 19:35.21 | Saroz | need 6 set bonus |
| 19:36.46 | Chompers | i missed out on naxx completely |
| 19:36.51 | Chompers | probably a good thing i guess |
| 19:37.40 | Saroz | Funkeh`, why not have the _Personal in the sync, and not the in detection? |
| 19:37.56 | Funkeh` | its faster |
| 19:38.17 | Aens|Superiority | no way |
| 19:38.19 | durcyn | Chompers: what? naxxramas was a great instance, |
| 19:38.20 | Aens|Superiority | naxx ws fun |
| 19:38.46 | Saroz | mmm but, the message only appears after sync, so why no the flash? |
| 19:39.34 | Funkeh` | its clearer to have the message in the sync, if you didn't have it you would need a if pName ~= ... anyway |
| 19:39.46 | Funkeh` | cleaner* |
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| 19:40.34 | Saroz | yes, it's cleaner :) |
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| 19:46.06 | rubik | hmm.. no more "cameraDistanceMax" parameter in 2.3? |
| 19:46.26 | rubik | so i'm stuck looking at my toon's ass from close up with no way to zoom way out anymore? |
| 19:46.49 | nevcairiel | see, thats why i play night elves |
| 19:46.58 | rubik | good point there |
| 19:47.14 | rubik | it's also the reason that all new horde toons are blood elves |
| 19:48.40 | Chompers | night elf males eh nev? |
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| 19:49.27 | nevcairiel | nah |
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| 19:57.22 | Amadeo | :D |
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| 20:01.00 | Gilded | Does anyone use anything like LootTracker? (http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=2219) If so what would you recommend. I'm mainly interested in keeping track of who's looted what in 5 mans, particularly those that drop rep loot (coilfang arm, etc). |
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| 20:02.51 | hyperChipmunk | hmmm...this guy has the best deals anywhere |
| 20:03.01 | hyperChipmunk | ...but this other guy gots what I need |
| 20:03.24 | hyperChipmunk | choices, choices... |
| 20:03.56 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 20:04.11 | Amadeo | I got what you need, baby |
| 20:04.17 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk:go with the meth. |
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| 20:05.42 | xerawx | what graphics setting(s) have the biggest impact on pvp performance in general |
| 20:06.08 | hyperChipmunk | resolution; keep it at 640x480 for best performance |
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| 20:06.19 | Amadeo | that's what I play at on my 37" LCD |
| 20:06.27 | xerawx | lol |
| 20:06.37 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Beta * r53759 10Ace3/tests/runall.sh: Ace3 - set svn:executable |
| 20:06.43 | hyperChipmunk | go 320x240 if it lets you |
| 20:06.46 | xerawx | i'm running 1680x1050 on my new machine |
| 20:07.03 | xerawx | its actually running pretty well but i like to optimize anyway |
| 20:07.17 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Now that I've actually done on a 21" monitor back in Quake days :) |
| 20:07.19 | Amadeo | in Software |
| 20:07.46 | Amadeo | I gave up Quake shortly after I got the monitor :P |
| 20:08.06 | hyperChipmunk | dude, you're not a serious quake player unless you can count the pixels |
| 20:08.08 | xerawx | heh, reminds me when my 3dfx voodoo was hot shit in glquake :D |
| 20:09.02 | Amadeo | I just see the code, The Matrix was about me! |
| 20:10.58 | xerawx | resolution doesnt actually seem to be the bottleneck.. still hovering around 100fps in AV at full detail 800x600 |
| 20:11.16 | xerawx | jumping up to around 200 |
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| 20:11.48 | Amadeo | You're going to have to send me your PC so I can do some tweaking..not sure when you'll get it back |
| 20:11.54 | xerawx | heheh |
| 20:12.08 | NivFreak | rubik: I was able to zoom WAY out with vanilla 2.3 |
| 20:12.18 | xerawx | i just got this after "running" wow on a powerbook g4 867 with 32mb video for 2 years :P |
| 20:12.18 | NivFreak | I actually uninstalled my improvedcamera mod |
| 20:12.18 | durcyn | the human eye can see at 29.7 fps, pretty sure you're safe at 100 |
| 20:12.23 | NivFreak | it was causing some clipping anyway |
| 20:12.50 | Amadeo | durcyn: You can detect motion far past 60 fps |
| 20:12.53 | xerawx | durcyn: that's true but you want higher rendering capability for things like BGs and raids |
| 20:13.45 | xerawx | i'll be happy if i can get this locked at 60fps v-sync 1680x1050 nice detail |
| 20:13.56 | xerawx | very happy |
| 20:14.14 | xerawx | i'm used to playing on basically a slideshow |
| 20:14.38 | Fin | vhaarr + Kemayo: cheers for the FreeRefills updates |
| 20:14.38 | deltron | lol |
| 20:17.50 | Fisker- | Fin |
| 20:17.51 | Fisker- | screw you |
| 20:17.56 | Fisker- | you ruined my dvd burner :( |
| 20:17.59 | Amadeo | Someone shoot me, Warhammer was delayed again |
| 20:18.07 | Fisker- | warhammer fails |
| 20:18.10 | durcyn | ~shoot Amadeo |
| 20:18.10 | purl | ACTION shoots Amadeo in the head with a cork gun! |
| 20:18.33 | deltron | Amadeo: yeah so I read in the newsletter :( |
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| 20:18.36 | Gnarfoz | ~fail Warhammer |
| 20:18.37 | purl | Warhammer: Fail. |
| 20:18.44 | deltron | Amadeo: I'd rather have it working and not suck |
| 20:18.52 | Fisker- | ~fail DVDBurner |
| 20:18.53 | purl | DVDBurner: Fail. |
| 20:18.53 | Amadeo | Me too |
| 20:18.57 | Fisker- | http://i9.tinypic.com/6431ok8.jpg |
| 20:18.59 | Amadeo | Look at Hellgate LOLdon |
| 20:19.01 | Fisker- | oh and |
| 20:19.04 | Fisker- | ~fail asus |
| 20:19.05 | purl | asus: Fail. |
| 20:19.16 | Fisker- | speaking of which Amadeo |
| 20:19.17 | Fisker- | :P |
| 20:19.20 | Fisker- | http://i9.tinypic.com/6431ok8.jpg |
| 20:19.35 | Fisker- | Asus are a bunch of retards in motherboard design |
| 20:19.53 | Fisker- | why would anyone put the IDE controller underneath some 6 expansion slots? |
| 20:20.13 | durcyn | who uses IDE anymore |
| 20:20.16 | durcyn | it's the year 2007 |
| 20:20.22 | Fisker- | i don't soon |
| 20:20.39 | Fisker- | Cause the IDE connector cable wasn't manufactored properly |
| 20:20.48 | durcyn | it's vestigial, like floppy drives and serial ports |
| 20:20.52 | durcyn | total waste of space |
| 20:20.57 | Fisker- | they switched places on where the pin is supposed to be |
| 20:21.04 | Fisker- | So i pushed in the pin on my drive |
| 20:21.07 | deltron | hmm tabula rasa is live now |
| 20:21.23 | Fisker- | first it didn't work at all but i fixed it by getting a pincet to pull it back again |
| 20:21.33 | Fisker- | But now it doesn't really register cd's or dvd's |
| 20:21.40 | Chompers | i spy hellgate dvd |
| 20:21.46 | Fisker- | indeed Chompers |
| 20:21.47 | Chompers | tried it yet Fisker-? |
| 20:21.49 | Fisker- | yes |
| 20:21.51 | Fisker- | level 15 |
| 20:21.56 | Chompers | sp is fun, but... |
| 20:22.08 | Fisker- | SP is pointless imo |
| 20:22.09 | Chompers | i cant show off my amazing blues |
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| 20:22.17 | Fisker- | multiplayer is the fun part |
| 20:22.24 | Chompers | you bought it? |
| 20:22.38 | Fisker- | duh, do you think i burn DVD9's for games? |
| 20:22.50 | Amadeo | I'll probably pick it up around December when they finally fix it up :P |
| 20:22.51 | Chompers | :P |
| 20:22.55 | Fisker- | but it's so riddled with design flaws and bugs |
| 20:22.58 | Fisker- | i mean seriously |
| 20:23.03 | Fisker- | there's a bug with the engineer |
| 20:23.09 | Fisker- | You can have a pet that can carry items |
| 20:23.13 | tinyboom | xerawx: 1680x1050@60fps flat is yummie ;) |
| 20:23.18 | Amadeo | Maybe they learned from Blizzard that Engineering sucks |
| 20:23.21 | Chompers | any awesome bugs ? |
| 20:23.29 | Fisker- | When you log off you'll likely lose the items it was carrying |
| 20:23.52 | Fisker- | it even happens, although less frequently, if you summon your drone, take off the items and put them in your own inventory |
| 20:24.03 | Fisker- | I have this awesome legendary weapons |
| 20:24.06 | Fisker- | EXCEPT IT DOESN'T WORK |
| 20:24.11 | Fisker- | it does 0 damage |
| 20:24.31 | Fisker- | Oh and the cool part is, these bugs were in the beta for a while |
| 20:24.45 | Fisker- | Was playing with a player that was in the beta when the NDA was still active |
| 20:24.54 | Fisker- | and he told me it was some of the more known bugs |
| 20:25.09 | Amadeo | They ran out of money most likely |
| 20:25.16 | durcyn | they ran out of time. |
| 20:25.17 | Amadeo | had to ship, or meet a deadline |
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| 20:25.38 | Fisker- | Their first improvement to the chatsystem from beta to retail was to remove the abillity to view chat without having a big FUGLY box in the 1/4 of the left screen |
| 20:25.39 | Amadeo | They could probably delay if they wanted, like Warhammer |
| 20:25.43 | Fisker- | seriously? |
| 20:25.44 | durcyn | friend of mine worked on the project at ncsoft, they've been working nights for the three months prior to release |
| 20:26.12 | durcyn | someone set a deadline, probably garriott, and refused to budge |
| 20:26.12 | Fisker- | If you have the pre-release copy the chat is shown whether or not you have the chatbox |
| 20:26.24 | Fisker- | in Patch 0 they removed that abillity and you have to open your chatbox all the time |
| 20:26.34 | Fisker- | Oh and the chatbox of course overlaps important ui |
| 20:26.39 | Fisker- | Which has no ui scaling option btw |
| 20:26.49 | Amadeo | I think it's pretty stupid to release anything that unfinished |
| 20:26.56 | Amadeo | all they do is kill their own profits |
| 20:26.59 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:27.05 | Fisker- | and their subscription service is bugged too |
| 20:27.20 | Fisker- | so they won't even gain a bit of extra cash because people doesn't know what they're signing up for :D |
| 20:27.25 | Fisker- | now they're forcibly being shown the bugs |
| 20:27.32 | Fisker- | and they haven't already paid for a month or more |
| 20:27.50 | Fisker- | i doubt they are likely candidates for a monthly sub anytime soon |
| 20:28.19 | Amadeo | subscription model on that type of game was a bad idea anyways |
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| 20:31.04 | Fisker- | ok for some reason i can't take a screenshot |
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| 20:33.09 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53760 10BigWigs/ (BlackTemple/Najentus.lua Karazhan/Hyakiss.lua): BigWigs: BlackTemple/Najentus: Add in Saroz's Health scan code, will print a friendly message when your raid is over 8500HP, no silly boxes. |
| 20:33.38 | Antiarc | Nice |
| 20:34.47 | Fisker- | ok got a screenshot |
| 20:34.56 | Fisker- | for some reason they don't like that i copy/paste :I |
| 20:35.04 | Fisker- | http://i4.tinypic.com/5xhxn9e.jpg |
| 20:35.24 | Fisker- | Ingenious chatbox right? |
| 20:35.39 | Amadeo | hah |
| 20:35.42 | Fisker- | So instead of text just appearing there without the fugly chatbox you have to have that one out |
| 20:36.24 | Fisker- | and you can't interact with quest reward selection or any stuff like skills, merchants, stash whatever |
| 20:36.31 | Fisker- | with the quest reward it just overlaps |
| 20:36.35 | Fisker- | all other it just closes it |
| 20:36.43 | Fisker- | having to manually reopen it each time :( |
| 20:37.16 | Chompers | level 9 so far, does it get better? |
| 20:37.30 | Fisker- | it does infact |
| 20:38.00 | Chompers | trying to get somewhere but every fight i need to use 3 health pot things |
| 20:38.10 | Chompers | sure i'm doing something wrong |
| 20:38.57 | Fisker- | as an engineer you dominate pretty well if you know how to play them |
| 20:39.10 | deltron | wow that game looks terrible |
| 20:39.15 | Fisker- | but really the areas and missions get a lot cooler in the 15-20 area atleast |
| 20:39.32 | Chompers | and HOLY SHIT memory usage |
| 20:39.36 | Fisker- | there's a quest where you travel inside the brain of another person |
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| 20:39.42 | Fisker- | 64-bit FTW Chompers :P |
| 20:40.01 | Fisker- | I think i saw it on 1,9GB memory usage yesterday |
| 20:40.20 | deltron | I was using 3GB memory today, not 64 bit heh |
| 20:40.32 | deltron | but I was running like 4 VM's |
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| 20:48.07 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53762 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
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| 20:50.40 | Kemayo | Fin: No problem. vhaarr did most of it, anyway. |
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| 20:54.37 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53763 10BigWigs/ (11 files in 5 dirs): |
| 20:54.37 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 20:54.37 | CIA-7 | - proximity tweaks |
| 20:54.37 | CIA-7 | - BlackTemple/Najentus: add proximity, 7 yard (according to wowwiki anyway) |
| 20:55.19 | CIA-7 | 03durcyn * r53764 10FreeRefills/ (FreeRefills.toc embeds.xml): FreeRefills: use embeds.xml already, gosh. |
| 20:55.28 | Ellipsis | OMG LULZ |
| 20:55.30 | Kalroth | I guess funky didn't like the comments about DBM having more to offer than BW afterall :P |
| 20:55.32 | Ellipsis | ping aestil |
| 20:56.01 | Hjalte | Bah, more to offer doesn't have to mean better. |
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| 20:56.31 | Kalroth | Hjalte: In this case it did, considering he just added it to BW |
| 20:56.34 | durcyn | dbm is the play skool boss mod package. being that there are still wow players that apparently wear diapers, it seems to have its place. |
| 20:56.51 | Kalroth | haha |
| 20:57.12 | Kalroth | Doesn't real raiders play without a bossmod at all? |
| 20:57.57 | Cryect | Real raiders play with custom inguild boss mods |
| 20:58.11 | fridgid | add proximity, 7 yard (according to wowwiki anyway) >> theres a 7 yd check now?! |
| 20:58.38 | Kalroth | Cryect: You mean quick combatlog event notifiers ;) |
| 20:58.49 | Kalroth | Cryect: Also, welcome back. |
| 20:58.57 | Cryect | Heh I'm not really "back" |
| 20:59.12 | Kalroth | Oh, undercover back then? |
| 20:59.26 | Cryect | sure I'm here but been unsubscribed for a few months now :-p |
| 20:59.40 | Grum | <Kalroth> Doesn't real raiders play without a bossmod at all? <-- they all play with addons ^^ |
| 20:59.48 | Kalroth | Aha, so you're slacking only |
| 20:59.57 | Cryect | Slacking and looking for a job |
| 21:00.33 | Kalroth | Grum: I was being sarcastic, I couldn't give a fsck what people play with :) Personally I go for the addon that helps me the most, since I'm a lazy fucker |
| 21:00.35 | Nefarion | i'm bored; anything interesting goin' on? |
| 21:00.53 | Kalroth | Cryect: Ouch okay, I've been there, so good luck with that |
| 21:01.09 | Grum | lazy>* |
| 21:01.24 | Cryect | Really damn this all jobs wanting real job experience thing :-p |
| 21:01.42 | Kalroth | You have to be 20 years old with 10 years of experience. |
| 21:02.25 | Nefarion | how can you get job experience if all jobs require it? O.o |
| 21:02.32 | durcyn | jobs are overrated, suckle at the teat of whoever's willing for as long as possible |
| 21:02.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Nefarion: luck, mostly |
| 21:03.25 | Kalroth | What nighthawk said, I got my job with zero previous experience because they couldn't get better at the time :) |
| 21:03.26 | Cryect | durcyn: heh I'm more looking for a job because I'm bored (though my finances will run out in a few months unless I cash in stocks/bonds I have) |
| 21:03.37 | Kalroth | Been in the same place for over 6 years now |
| 21:03.46 | Nefarion | yeah i need a job =X |
| 21:03.49 | Nefarion | kill me now |
| 21:04.11 | Kalroth | Well if we killed you, then you wouldn't need a new job |
| 21:04.28 | Kalroth | lol |
| 21:04.31 | Nefarion | =) |
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| 21:05.17 | Nefarion | Balance pretty much summed up: "Just one. But mages will cry that it is OP. Then they will QQ that Warlocks shouldn't be able to screw in a lightbulb. Then they'll cry that Blizzard needs to nerf the lightbulb or buff the socket that the Mages have to screw their lightbulb into... Then for some reason Warriors lightbulbs will automatically be screwed in and never break." |
| 21:05.20 | Nefarion | amirite? |
| 21:05.34 | Nefarion | oh, "how many 'locks does it take to screw in a lightbulb" was the question |
| 21:05.41 | Cryect | huh? |
| 21:05.46 | Cryect | oh |
| 21:06.14 | durcyn | sounds like some horseshit from blizzard class forums |
| 21:06.22 | durcyn | never read those, you'll only die a little in your brain |
| 21:06.25 | Kalroth | Yeah, usual QQ drivel :) |
| 21:06.37 | Nefarion | i know. i die a little every time. but i'm so damned bored. |
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| 21:14.24 | aestil | pong, Ellipsis |
| 21:17.59 | aestil | i'm almost set to start recruiting for my guild. |
| 21:18.04 | Ellipsis | aestil: I just accidentally got kara neck |
| 21:18.10 | aestil | you bitch! |
| 21:18.12 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 21:18.31 | Ellipsis | by accidentally I mean I asked my guild if anyone wanted to do heroics so I could get the badges I needed for that neck |
| 21:18.40 | Ellipsis | and they were like "we're in kara atm, but we need one more" |
| 21:18.49 | aestil | i'm disgusted. |
| 21:18.49 | Ellipsis | so I figured hey why not, joined, and neck dropped XD |
| 21:19.07 | aestil | i have cleared kara 10x more than is needed to be exalted with VE. |
| 21:19.12 | aestil | and it has never dropped once. |
| 21:19.22 | aestil | on a side note, i killed prince that many times as well. |
| 21:19.26 | aestil | and he never once dropped the dagger. |
| 21:19.44 | aestil | well, at least now you'll just get the OH |
| 21:19.49 | aestil | with heroic badges. |
| 21:19.52 | aestil | and then icon. |
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| 21:20.08 | aestil | god, you're full of fail. write my chat mod for me. |
| 21:20.21 | Orionshock | write it yourself :P |
| 21:20.29 | durcyn | chat mod? just use vChat, imo. |
| 21:20.44 | aestil | does vChat have tab complete? |
| 21:20.50 | NightHawkAtWork | I don't suppose any of you have, or know where I can find, a perl script to turn a huge string of xml into a nicely formatted version with returns and tabs? |
| 21:21.21 | durcyn | NightHawkAtWork: start with use XML::Parser; then... oh, nevermind |
| 21:21.57 | NightHawkAtWork | durcyn: by the time i sift through xml::parser docs, i could just hand write a quick and dirty loop with a regex replace. >< |
| 21:21.59 | hyperChipmunk | then hold down shift and mash your keyboard |
| 21:22.08 | aestil | cryect, constant reports that you have abandoned recount on the forums. is it true? |
| 21:22.44 | durcyn | NightHawkAtWork: so just pipe it in and loop across, then dump it into nested hashes, then loop the hashes |
| 21:22.52 | Cryect | At the moment |
| 21:22.58 | Cryect | I plan to fix it if it breaks and I'm free |
| 21:23.27 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53765 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Proximity: Show 'Close Players' instead of the boss name in the title window |
| 21:23.30 | Cryect | But if what 3 months of no updates from at least once a week changes wasn't obvious I'm not working on it at the moment |
| 21:23.33 | NightHawkAtWork | durcyn: oh, that's clever. |
| 21:24.01 | Orionshock | aestil: if it ain't broken don't brake it. |
| 21:24.04 | Cryect | If I'm free still when 2.4 gets on PTR I will likely work on a Recount 2 but we will see |
| 21:24.37 | aestil | Cryect: thats cool, i just said soemthing like that in irc the other day and someone told me i was mistaken. |
| 21:24.40 | Cryect | Mainly due to felt like I kept writing hacks to get around design issues :-p |
| 21:24.48 | aestil | *nods* |
| 21:24.54 | aestil | well, new combat log sounds cool. |
| 21:25.41 | Orionshock | ya... 2.4 will make all combat mods update iirc - either that or they are just adding a extra arg and it'll be fine for a while.. |
| 21:26.14 | Cryect | I wonder will they still trigger the old events or will they decide to just break all old mods that use them |
| 21:26.29 | Orionshock | i say brake em all and make new events |
| 21:26.45 | Cryect | Shrug why not trigger new events and still trigger the old events for compatibility |
| 21:27.07 | Nefarion | why not have developers keep on top of shit? =P |
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| 21:27.16 | Orionshock | compatibility fucks shit up unwantingly. |
| 21:27.39 | Cryect | Hmm how do keeping old events fuck up shit? :-p |
| 21:27.41 | Orionshock | if something old is that good that ppl still use it then it should be good enough to be rewritten |
| 21:27.58 | Orionshock | Cryect: no, re read what i said. |
| 21:27.59 | Cryect | Assuming the developer still plays |
| 21:28.05 | Nefarion | fan updates ftw |
| 21:28.16 | Cryect | fan updates normally aren't good :-p |
| 21:28.23 | Cryect | there is a small portion that are though |
| 21:28.28 | Nefarion | then stop being lazy and do your own fan update |
| 21:28.34 | Nefarion | loll |
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| 21:29.06 | Orionshock | compatibility fucks shit up unwantingly. --- meaning that old things / methods / ways / ideas that are simply bad/ need to die off and be reInvented. |
| 21:29.39 | Cryect | yeah we shouldn't use old algorithms! |
| 21:29.49 | Nefarion | anyone wanna take his place? |
| 21:29.52 | NightHawkAtWork | Eh, needlessly breaking compatability for no good reason other than because you're doing something new is just silloy |
| 21:29.57 | Cryect | yep |
| 21:30.05 | Orionshock | lol... |
| 21:30.06 | Nefarion | why not simply design new things to fit old things? |
| 21:30.09 | Nefarion | O.o |
| 21:30.15 | Orionshock | ok i know im being mis understood here. |
| 21:30.16 | NightHawkAtWork | ideally, blizzard will note that the old events are deprecated, and phase them out at some point in the future (ie: expansion) |
| 21:30.21 | Nefarion | nothing wrong with keeping the old events and tacking on the new info |
| 21:30.44 | Cryect | THere basically just needs to be a time period with both things exist |
| 21:30.51 | NightHawkAtWork | ^^ |
| 21:30.57 | Cryect | otherwise there will be a short time with lack of any sort of combat event addons |
| 21:31.04 | Cryect | except some rudimentry stuff |
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| 21:31.22 | Cryect | then again... if 2.4 PTR takes as long as recent PTRs :-p |
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| 21:31.33 | Orionshock | if your doing a point blank upgrade in methods, then you should remove the old stuff, you upgrading - don't keep relics. |
| 21:31.59 | Nefarion | nah 2.3 sucked because they introduced 2 things that fucked up at first; new sound engine and voice chat |
| 21:32.03 | Nefarion | 2.2* |
| 21:32.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Orionshock: er, actually, in a lot of cases, older versions of things are kept around long after they've been replaced by upgraded versions |
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| 21:32.10 | Nefarion | i doubt 2.3 will take as long |
| 21:32.14 | NightHawkAtWork | usually primary for compatability |
| 21:32.17 | NightHawkAtWork | primarily* |
| 21:32.26 | Cryect | 2.3 has been on PTR for how long already? |
| 21:32.34 | Nefarion | it has? |
| 21:32.37 | Orionshock | computability is not always good. |
| 21:32.38 | Nefarion | oh right |
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| 21:33.03 | NightHawkAtWork | Orionshock: unless what you were doing before has a very significant negative impact, then there's most often absolutely no downside to it |
| 21:33.05 | Cryect | Its of course nowhere near 2.2 in length but I mean its around 6 weeks isn't it |
| 21:33.18 | NivFreak | 2.3 has 2-3 weeks more at least |
| 21:33.22 | NivFreak | still lots of problems |
| 21:33.28 | Kalroth | Aye |
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| 21:33.50 | Cryect | Wouldn't be blizzard if they didn't break servers or something they supposedly weren't touching |
| 21:33.52 | NightHawkAtWork | If i had to guess, I'd say 2 weeks more for 2.3 |
| 21:34.07 | Nefarion | neotron, what level is your 'lock? |
| 21:34.09 | NightHawkAtWork | i'll probably be wrong, though |
| 21:34.19 | NeoTron | 70 of course |
| 21:34.26 | Nefarion | i don't like felguard myself =/ |
| 21:34.54 | Orionshock | downside is that if it's keep around and it's a nice hack that likes to be used then it gets keep around because of that, instead of doing a formal code up .... and i 've lost my interest in this idea. |
| 21:34.54 | buu | FEEEEEEEEEEKGUARD. |
| 21:35.07 | buu | Nefarion: I'm pondering 40/21 |
| 21:35.19 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 21:35.22 | buu | Nefarion: But really you only gain like, 20 spell damage and 2% crit as far as I can tell. |
| 21:35.29 | buu | Some hp and such. |
| 21:35.35 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/bemthpl5t2go3?s=2556-2815 |
| 21:35.43 | buu | Actually you don't really, it's just 2% crit. |
| 21:35.46 | Nefarion | i'm going to 41/3/17 when i can *finally* get the game paid and get on |
| 21:35.54 | buu | It's DK vs SnF |
| 21:36.04 | NeoTron | imho 0/21/40 i better |
| 21:36.06 | Nefarion | standard light UA build, 3 in +sta and destro up to intensity |
| 21:36.15 | Nefarion | well, for pvp |
| 21:36.21 | NeoTron | soul leech is not to be underestimated |
| 21:36.27 | buu | YES IT IS. |
| 21:36.31 | CIA-7 | 03borlox * r53766 10/brachnes/ (11 files in 5 dirs): |
| 21:36.31 | CIA-7 | CombatDnd: |
| 21:36.31 | CIA-7 | - Ace3 version of CombatDnd |
| 21:36.35 | Ellipsis | it *can't* be underestimated |
| 21:36.39 | deltron | NeoTron: only 1 resto shaman! fail! |
| 21:36.42 | buu | Nefarion: For PVP?! |
| 21:36.42 | NeoTron | it's great |
| 21:37.00 | NeoTron | that raid was... "let's try to get all these odd ppl attuned to MT" |
| 21:37.10 | buu | Nefarion: I want to be attuned to .. wherever. |
| 21:37.19 | buu | Why the fuck do you keep typing MT? |
| 21:37.31 | CIA-7 | 03borlox * r53767 10/brachnes/: |
| 21:37.31 | CIA-7 | CombatDnd: |
| 21:37.31 | CIA-7 | - ARGH typo I'm SORRY! |
| 21:37.48 | do3mca | lol |
| 21:37.55 | Nefarion | gotta go |
| 21:37.58 | NeoTron | meant BT of course |
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| 21:38.47 | buu | NeoTron: Attune me =[ |
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| 21:38.48 | NeoTron | I like the simplicity of desto spec |
| 21:38.57 | NeoTron | just hate being ineffectual |
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| 21:39.12 | buu | Destro is ineffectual? |
| 21:39.27 | NeoTron | in many cases yes |
| 21:39.31 | NeoTron | if you have to, you know, move |
| 21:39.39 | buu | Uh.. huh. |
| 21:39.46 | buu | Didn't we just have this stupid conversation? |
| 21:40.06 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 21:40.08 | Ellipsis | so um |
| 21:40.14 | NeoTron | I think I am qualified enough to know what I am talking about |
| 21:40.15 | Ellipsis | I hate to be a noob and all |
| 21:40.19 | Ellipsis | but how does the aran fight go? |
| 21:40.21 | buu | HA HA I DON'T. |
| 21:40.25 | NeoTron | some fights suck for destro, some don't |
| 21:40.28 | buu | Ellipsis: Melee until he dies. |
| 21:40.43 | NeoTron | I'm usually top 1-3 DPS regardless of spec |
| 21:40.46 | buu | NeoTron: What the hell was that other lock doing? |
| 21:40.54 | Ellipsis | *whimper* |
| 21:40.55 | kadrahil | Ellipsis: it's an all out dps fight, he has no threat table |
| 21:41.14 | kadrahil | Ellipsis: when he gets to 40% he summons water elementals that you need to keep feared and banished |
| 21:41.31 | buu | He casts icebolt, fireball and arcane missles. |
| 21:41.33 | Kemayo | Ellipsis: He casts flame wreath, and then some idiot wipes you. |
| 21:41.36 | buu | Counterspell the icebolt/fireball. |
| 21:41.42 | NeoTron | buu: over 1000 DPS with 100% dps time |
| 21:41.44 | kadrahil | you need to interrupt the icebolt and fireballs, ignore the missiles |
| 21:41.53 | Ellipsis | flame wreath? |
| 21:41.55 | NeoTron | do you even know how Rage Winterchill fight is? |
| 21:41.59 | buu | He casts bliizard, flamwreath and and arcane explosion. |
| 21:42.04 | kadrahil | yeah, he'll engulf part of the raid in a flame wreath |
| 21:42.07 | kadrahil | if you move, everyone blows up |
| 21:42.19 | buu | NeoTron: What? what the hell is with his casts? |
| 21:42.38 | NeoTron | buu: do you have an anger management issue or something? |
| 21:42.39 | Kemayo | For some reason "don't move while there's a ring of fire around you" is difficult for some people to understand. |
| 21:42.40 | kadrahil | when he gets low enough HP, he does a mass sheep on everyone and drinks |
| 21:42.45 | kadrahil | then he does a massive pyroblast |
| 21:43.01 | NeoTron | Winterchill is potentially a very mobile fiht if you get placed into death and decay a lot |
| 21:43.21 | buu | kadrahil: That's mana. |
| 21:43.52 | kadrahil | buu: ahh, my bad |
| 21:43.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: look it up on wowwiki, it's got a good description |
| 21:43.57 | kadrahil | buu: it's been months since i ran kara :( |
| 21:44.09 | NightHawkAtWork | wowwiki has pretty decent rundowns of most bosses |
| 21:44.10 | buu | kadrahil: It's only if you can't drop him before he uses enough mana. |
| 21:44.12 | Azurewrath | Archimonde is such a crappy Encounter ... |
| 21:44.16 | kadrahil | buu: yup |
| 21:44.20 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork: can't run firefox and WoW at the same time.. |
| 21:44.23 | Ellipsis | hence bugging you guys |
| 21:44.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: o_0 you must have a really terrible computer :\ |
| 21:44.48 | NeoTron | and the other warlock is a hybrid spec and uses corr, CoA/CoD and SB |
| 21:44.52 | kadrahil | if you can make it past the elementals, and not blow up the raid when he casts flame wreath, it's pretty easy |
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| 21:45.16 | kadrahil | don't you usually take 3-4 fear/banish classes to shade? i forget |
| 21:45.31 | Hjalte | Killing the adds now works great, now that they nerfed their health |
| 21:45.52 | NeoTron | killing adds is pretty much preferable |
| 21:45.57 | kadrahil | for what? shade? |
| 21:46.01 | Cryect | they are only up for uh 90 seconds? |
| 21:46.01 | buu | kadrahil: Yes. |
| 21:46.02 | NeoTron | yes |
| 21:46.02 | Hjalte | yes |
| 21:46.08 | kadrahil | oh, we never did it that way |
| 21:46.08 | Mokhtar | Hi there, I don't know the netiquette around here, is it Ok to ask a question about LUA or is it just general chat here :p |
| 21:46.09 | buu | Most of the time we just ignore them anyway |
| 21:46.10 | Hjalte | They go down VERY fast |
| 21:46.11 | NeoTron | they die in a lot less than 90s |
| 21:46.13 | kadrahil | just waited for them to despawn |
| 21:46.25 | Cryect | As long as you call it Lua its normally okay |
| 21:46.33 | Mokhtar | hehe |
| 21:46.37 | kadrahil | Cryect: oh hi, haven't seen you around |
| 21:46.39 | Hjalte | If you want to ignore them you need good healers or lots of CC |
| 21:46.40 | NeoTron | with some bad luck they can cause problems |
| 21:46.43 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork: 1GB RAM |
| 21:46.53 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: ouch, buy ram. :P |
| 21:46.54 | kadrahil | Hjalte: we always took lots of CC and ignored them |
| 21:47.00 | Cryect | Hjalte, don't need good healers just need some people who know how to tank them |
| 21:47.01 | kadrahil | Hjalte: when did they drop their HP? |
| 21:47.07 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork: laptop, costs more to buy RAM than a new computer :P |
| 21:47.15 | NeoTron | they have like 12k hp now or less |
| 21:47.19 | Cryect | Hjalte: warrior or druid can grab aggro easily then go back to DPS :-p |
| 21:47.24 | aeon|capullo | hiho |
| 21:47.25 | Hjalte | kadrahil: It's some time ago now, but really, they don't have a lot of health. |
| 21:47.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: .. ah, and this is why I don't use laptops as my primary computer. too expensive to upgrade |
| 21:47.27 | Ellipsis | I'm due for a new one, planning it soon |
| 21:47.51 | Mokhtar | I want to be able to get a raidXX unit's stance if it is a warrior, I managed to find how to detect stance changes but SpecialEvents-Aura doesn't seem to getdefensive/berserk etc stances |
| 21:47.52 | kadrahil | i'm getting a new machine when i graduate, finally |
| 21:48.04 | Ellipsis | yeah NightHawkAtWork, I did the whole "hay mom I'm in college can I have a laptop to use in class?" thing, otherwise I'd have just gotten a proper gaming machine |
| 21:48.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: yeah, laptops in class are overrated. :P |
| 21:48.34 | kadrahil | seriously, they are |
| 21:48.38 | kadrahil | i have a MBP i take to class |
| 21:48.41 | aeon|capullo | is it possible to simulate events like CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL? |
| 21:48.43 | kadrahil | it's my main machine |
| 21:48.52 | kadrahil | i'd honestly just rather have a desktop at home |
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| 21:49.33 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork: oh I never brought it to class, it's freaking huge and heavy |
| 21:49.39 | Ellipsis | and eats batteries |
| 21:49.58 | NightHawkAtWork | well, that makes it a wonderful laptop, doesn't it. |
| 21:50.00 | Ellipsis | actually I brought it a few times, but only when I wanted to WoW in claass |
| 21:50.01 | Ellipsis | class* |
| 21:50.07 | Ellipsis | actually, it's been great for LANs and stuff |
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| 21:54.58 | sb | YAY |
| 21:55.00 | sb | kael down |
| 21:56.15 | JoshBorke | grats! |
| 21:57.03 | PProvost_ | Does anyone know if one of the Prat modules can keep the chat frames in the same location across toons? I can't seem to find one, but I may be blind. :) |
| 21:59.00 | NeoTron | grats |
| 21:59.19 | Arrowmaster | hope i get to say that laster this week |
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| 21:59.48 | Arrowmaster | we cleared SSC in 4 hours lastnight so we have our sunday and monday raids to work on TK |
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| 22:00.45 | aestil | Ellipsis: can you let your mom know that i need to upgrade my wifes computer? |
| 22:01.46 | aestil | PProvost_: copy the chatlayout.txt file |
| 22:02.38 | Ellipsis | aestil: eh, why not :P |
| 22:03.04 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 22:03.22 | aestil | +dmg at what now? |
| 22:03.24 | Ellipsis | wiped and i'm *28 rep* short of being able to repair |
| 22:03.33 | Ellipsis | 993 shadow |
| 22:03.40 | aestil | big grats |
| 22:03.59 | aestil | dagger will drop for you, and then you can outdps me. |
| 22:04.05 | Ellipsis | dagger? |
| 22:04.09 | aestil | prince |
| 22:04.15 | Ellipsis | he a kara boss? |
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| 22:04.52 | Arrowmaster | the correct term for everything in kara is loot pinata |
| 22:05.02 | PProvost_ | aestil, I know I can do that. I was looking for something that is a Prat module to get it automagically thru my Prat default profile. Might have to do it myself. No worries. |
| 22:05.39 | aestil | prince is the last boss. |
| 22:06.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: Prince Malchazar. |
| 22:06.18 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: last is a fairly relative term for him. :P |
| 22:06.33 | aestil | i think he's much harder than nightbane |
| 22:06.39 | aestil | but thats just my opinion |
| 22:06.53 | NightHawkAtWork | Well, I'm not disagreeing, but last says nothing about difficulty, merely chronological order. :P |
| 22:06.53 | Arrowmaster | he drops higher ilvl loot than nightbane so hes the 'last' boss |
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| 22:07.14 | aestil | he's pretty much at the end of the instance as well? |
| 22:07.31 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah, although I've done him before netherspite on occasions |
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| 22:08.04 | Arrowmaster | i hate netherspite |
| 22:08.26 | Arrowmaster | too many 'FUCK 30k CoD!' aggro pulls by me |
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| 22:08.41 | JoshBorke | don't use CoD? o.O |
| 22:08.42 | Gngsk | try not to CoD? |
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| 22:08.50 | Arrowmaster | but its so much fun =D |
| 22:09.00 | Gngsk | then why do you hate it? |
| 22:09.05 | NightHawkAtWork | then you're just asking for it :P |
| 22:09.14 | aestil | netherspite is a stupid fight. |
| 22:09.14 | Ellipsis | but it's fun! |
| 22:09.18 | Arrowmaster | i havent steped foot in kara in months |
| 22:09.23 | aestil | imo, kara has a bunch of poorly designed encounters. |
| 22:09.25 | Ellipsis | what do you guys have against big numbers huh? |
| 22:09.31 | Nefarion | nice to see TopScoreFu rockin' out that nice top score for it tho |
| 22:09.33 | aestil | probalbly because of the 10 person nature of the encounters. |
| 22:09.37 | NightHawkAtWork | eh, I kind of like the design of netherspite. |
| 22:09.45 | NightHawkAtWork | in theory, at least |
| 22:09.52 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: remember to do an amped cod on netherspite when you leave the blue beam |
| 22:10.20 | NightHawkAtWork | I think prince is the only fight that i just vastly dislike the design of |
| 22:10.30 | Arrowmaster | prince is too random |
| 22:10.34 | aestil | yes. |
| 22:10.37 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah |
| 22:10.51 | aestil | a few of the opera encounters are ok. |
| 22:10.55 | Azurewrath | Archimonde is Random... |
| 22:10.56 | aestil | aran doesn't bother me too much. |
| 22:10.58 | Arrowmaster | anybody that disagrees can suck a dick because ive seen some of the worst infernal placements possible |
| 22:11.19 | durcyn | uh, you do know you can still cheese it against the northwest wall, right |
| 22:11.36 | Arrowmaster | fucking diagonal line of infernals down the middle of the area once |
| 22:11.40 | Arrowmaster | nowhere to move |
| 22:11.42 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: I like the concept and design intentions behind all the opera encounters. |
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| 22:12.08 | Arrowmaster | opera is fine, although R+J used to be a little tough it got nerfed perty hard |
| 22:12.18 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah, I havn't done R&J since it got nerfed |
| 22:12.29 | Arrowmaster | you havent? |
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| 22:12.37 | Arrowmaster | it got nerfed like a month after people started doing it |
| 22:12.52 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah, I raided for a bit on a warrior, then switched chars/servers, and havn't really raided since. |
| 22:12.59 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 22:13.13 | Cryect | R&J was just kinda way out of balance with the other encounters so it made sense :-p |
| 22:13.14 | NightHawkAtWork | The guild I'm in is just starting kara |
| 22:14.30 | Ellipsis | haha, me in the blue beam, lol |
| 22:14.34 | Ellipsis | not happening |
| 22:14.41 | aestil | Ellipsis: why? |
| 22:14.43 | durcyn | ...why not? pop dots and drain life |
| 22:14.48 | durcyn | warlocks are perfect for it |
| 22:14.55 | aestil | warlocks win at blue beam |
| 22:15.10 | Arrowmaster | warlocks and shadow priests |
| 22:15.21 | Cryect | Shadow Priests with SW:Death! |
| 22:15.32 | Arrowmaster | ive seen many shadow priests do that |
| 22:15.52 | Cryect | Going for the big numbers! |
| 22:16.07 | Arrowmaster | and the 1shotting themselves |
| 22:16.25 | xerawx | i've done that |
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| 22:16.35 | Cryect | not just 1shotting, 1 shotting several times over potentially |
| 22:16.50 | Arrowmaster | we had shadow priests that killed themselves on curator, netherspite, and prince with SWD |
| 22:16.52 | testify | I have been killed too many times by SW:Ding in the blue beam |
| 22:16.53 | xerawx | SW:D on curator |
| 22:17.00 | xerawx | insta gibbed |
| 22:17.11 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: I've done all of those |
| 22:17.15 | NivFreak | with my priests |
| 22:17.19 | aestil | testify: your characters name? |
| 22:17.23 | testify | Spoil |
| 22:17.57 | Arrowmaster | i think some of ours have even come close to killing themselves on the spellreflect of the SSC trash |
| 22:18.08 | NivFreak | well that's bad :) |
| 22:18.18 | Arrowmaster | we yell at our tank with thunderfury everytime on those mobs |
| 22:18.27 | Arrowmaster | so hard to tell when the reflect is up |
| 22:18.47 | NivFreak | still using TF in SSC? |
| 22:18.49 | NivFreak | so strange |
| 22:18.56 | testify | Taking twice the damage on a 3k crit SW:D hurts |
| 22:19.00 | aestil | haha. thanks for mocking my spec. it made me feel better about myself. |
| 22:19.07 | Poul|Raider | when doing : for _,v in pairs(.... does it store info in a variable _ or does it just "forget" it? |
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| 22:19.18 | cncfanatics | it stores it in _ |
| 22:19.47 | testify | aestil, that sounds like sarcasm to me :-D |
| 22:19.50 | aestil | Ellipsis: what boss are you guys at now |
| 22:20.09 | aestil | well, either you don't know what you were talking about, or you were joking with me. either way, i'm good. |
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| 22:20.53 | Ellipsis | aestil: 3rd aran attempt |
| 22:21.10 | aestil | you got it this time |
| 22:21.14 | aestil | :D |
| 22:21.23 | testify | meh, I don't put a lot on what you're tier 1 talents are, I just find it weird because I've always kept away from spirit tap as a shadow priest |
| 22:21.40 | testify | you're = your (GRAMAR NAZI!) |
| 22:21.47 | Ellipsis | aestil maybe if me and the other lock don't get pyrod in the first 10 secs of the fight |
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| 22:24.03 | Nefarion | lol wow is ripping off pokemon |
| 22:24.10 | Nefarion | epic low |
| 22:24.34 | testify | they're coming out with a crappy cartoon and 5000000 gameboy games? |
| 22:24.43 | Kalroth | Man, here I thought I could do a sneak change and then I run into this |
| 22:24.45 | Kalroth | -- Anyone registering styles in this file without Ammo's permission |
| 22:24.45 | Kalroth | -- will be gangraped by a bunch of gay gorillas. |
| 22:24.56 | Nefarion | the front page, the name change flash thingy.. |
| 22:25.17 | Nefarion | knky |
| 22:25.21 | Nefarion | kinky* |
| 22:25.29 | aestil | pyro'd? |
| 22:25.31 | Ellipsis | Kalroth: do it anyway. film the results. sell on ebay. profit! |
| 22:25.32 | aestil | you can't get pyrpod |
| 22:25.34 | testify | how is that pokemon? |
| 22:25.38 | aestil | until later? |
| 22:25.47 | Ellipsis | aestil: well that's what they said happened |
| 22:25.50 | Nefarion | from like the original game, the evolving looked like that lol |
| 22:25.54 | Ellipsis | I don't know, I was busy trying not to die to blizzard |
| 22:26.01 | Ellipsis | and then BAM dead anyway :/ |
| 22:26.06 | Nefarion | sorry i'm bored as shit |
| 22:27.24 | aestil | tell them that you get pyro'd after he evocates |
| 22:27.28 | aestil | which is after he runs oom |
| 22:27.31 | aestil | which youd on't want. |
| 22:28.06 | Ellipsis | we actually made it to the polymorph on the second attempt |
| 22:28.17 | Ellipsis | granted, all but 3 people died to the pyro immediately following it... |
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| 22:29.23 | buu | Ellipsis: .... |
| 22:29.26 | aestil | don't let him cast so often |
| 22:29.29 | buu | What is that, like 500 raid dps? |
| 22:29.33 | aestil | always interupt fire and frost |
| 22:29.35 | buu | L2COUNTERPSLELL |
| 22:29.45 | buu | Ellipsis: Get out the felhutner |
| 22:29.49 | buu | Spell lock him for the win. |
| 22:30.11 | Ellipsis | actually, conveniently enough, the 3 people left were a tank a healer and a huntard |
| 22:30.27 | Ellipsis | so you know, they lasted about 10 seconds |
| 22:30.50 | buu | You should have enough melee on him to always interrupt his spell casts, but don't interrupt arcane. |
| 22:30.54 | testify | Why don't they ever allow premade character transfers anymore? |
| 22:31.05 | Nefarion | what? |
| 22:31.14 | Ellipsis | which classes can interrupt? |
| 22:31.21 | testify | ...to the test realms |
| 22:31.23 | Nefarion | testify, what? |
| 22:31.24 | aestil | warrior/rogue/mage usually |
| 22:31.25 | buu | Ellipsis: Warlocks, rogues, hunters, warriors, mages |
| 22:31.39 | buu | testify: Probably to cut down on the number of tards. |
| 22:31.56 | aestil | iddealy, you'llave 2 of each. |
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| 22:32.05 | Ellipsis | we have one warr, one rogue, one mage :/ |
| 22:32.06 | Nefarion | because too many people were creating them just to feel leet for a little bit in full purples, or test a class (without knowing wtf they're doing anyway; pointless testing...), and thus the servers got clogged |
| 22:32.08 | aestil | well, 4 interupters |
| 22:32.11 | aestil | 3 can get it done |
| 22:32.22 | buu | Do the stuns work? |
| 22:32.40 | Ellipsis | brb, third attempt |
| 22:32.43 | testify | It's better than having nobody on the test realm and zero testing to the patch |
| 22:32.53 | buu | testify: Yeah, cause they're in real danger of that happening. |
| 22:33.08 | buu | It's only the first new content in 6 months |
| 22:33.25 | testify | buu: Do you realize how long bugs last before they get fixed? |
| 22:33.31 | Ellipsis | um |
| 22:33.32 | Ellipsis | fixed? |
| 22:33.35 | buu | What? |
| 22:33.47 | CIA-7 | 03cwdg * r53768 10nQuestLog/ (20 files in 11 dirs): |
| 22:33.47 | CIA-7 | nQuestLog: |
| 22:33.47 | CIA-7 | -- Add zhCN locales |
| 22:33.51 | Nefarion | testify: you can still copy your own characters afaik |
| 22:33.52 | testify | yes, some bugs do get fixes in wow |
| 22:34.04 | testify | Nefarion: I know |
| 22:34.05 | Nefarion | if you don't have a top level you're not likely effectively testing top level shit anyway |
| 22:34.36 | testify | What I'm saying is the huge population brought to the server by the premade characters increases the overall testing |
| 22:34.57 | Ellipsis | but quantity != quality |
| 22:35.04 | buu | And what we're saying is, the fucking servers crash without premade characters. |
| 22:35.05 | Nefarion | elli's right |
| 22:35.12 | buu | They don't need more tards running around clogging things up. |
| 22:35.55 | buu | I mean, there were like 5 day queues to copy. |
| 22:35.55 | testify | Well there's another problem, blizzard needs to learn to cap there server populations so that they can remane stable |
| 22:35.57 | testify | remain |
| 22:35.59 | Nefarion | back a while ago i didn't remember a patch they DIDN'T put in premades. but the servers would get filled up with fucktards who knew next to nothing and did no real testing and the actual testers found it too dreadful to bother |
| 22:36.04 | Nefarion | it's MUCH more effective this way |
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| 22:36.35 | xyu | When an arcane mage gets clearcasting during a boss fight should he stop his cycle to do AM or a pyro? or keep spamming AB? |
| 22:36.40 | buu | testify: So they should "cap there server populations" but they want "huge population brought to the server" |
| 22:36.49 | testify | Nefarion: obviously not, bugs last for YEARS before they're fixed in the game |
| 22:36.54 | Nefarion | i remember ptrs with 12+ hour queues. not good. |
| 22:37.20 | testify | Nefarion: Why is that not good? |
| 22:37.25 | Chompers | what does != mean? |
| 22:37.29 | Nefarion | not equal to |
| 22:37.34 | buu | YOU FAAAIL. |
| 22:37.43 | Nefarion | also ~= to lua programmers |
| 22:37.58 | Moozh|zzz | weet |
| 22:38.07 | Moozh | i figured out the formula for health |
| 22:38.11 | Moozh | well |
| 22:38.11 | Nefarion | testify, you think 12+ hour entry queues are productive for effective testing? |
| 22:38.12 | testify | buu: it's the idea of load testing your software to the point of breaking and backing it off a bit so that it's stable for a maximum population |
| 22:38.13 | Moozh | i didn't |
| 22:38.15 | Moozh | but i know it :P |
| 22:38.44 | buu | testify: You continue to make less and less sense. |
| 22:38.44 | Ellipsis | so um |
| 22:38.45 | Nefarion | they don't use ptrs for hardware testing |
| 22:38.49 | Nefarion | well usually not |
| 22:38.51 | Ellipsis | we fail |
| 22:38.53 | testify | Nefarion: I don't think they're anti-productive. Who's to way that the entire population of the server isn't testing their hearts out? |
| 22:39.38 | testify | Nefarion: no, I understand that, I was just mentioning another place where blizzard has obviously failed |
| 22:39.41 | buu | testify: Because 99% of wow players are mentally retarded? |
| 22:39.53 | Nefarion | bottom line: you can test most effectively when you have your own top level char and know more thoroughly when you're testing. |
| 22:39.54 | buu | testify: So you're too stupid to understand what they're doing = they fail. |
| 22:39.55 | Ellipsis | this time there are 4 up @ polymorph |
| 22:39.55 | buu | Right. |
| 22:39.56 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 22:40.03 | testify | for example, you put 5k angry gnomes in iron forge and the server suddenly drops |
| 22:40.04 | Nefarion | buu, up that 99% a bit |
| 22:40.08 | buu | Ellipsis: What is your raid dps? |
| 22:40.18 | testify | they should be able to prevent that |
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| 22:40.39 | Nefarion | you're now going off in random places about shit |
| 22:40.45 | buu | testify: Hrm. As a paying customer, do I prefer blizzard spend time and man hours fix an incredibly stupid once in a life time event, or spend time adding MORE SHING EPIX. |
| 22:41.02 | Ellipsis | buu: dunno |
| 22:41.14 | Nefarion | and in fact i've not seen a load-related server crash in almost a year; back then city raids crashed servers; they've obviously got it handled. |
| 22:41.36 | testify | Nefarion: PTR a bit then |
| 22:41.39 | buu | When have they nerfed an epic? |
| 22:41.46 | xyu | any arcane mages here? |
| 22:41.49 | xyu | When an arcane mage gets clearcasting during a boss fight should he stop his cycle to do AM or a pyro? or keep spamming AB? |
| 22:41.58 | buu | xyu: Go read EJ, jesus. |
| 22:42.12 | buu | Ellipsis: Are you interrupting his spells? |
| 22:42.17 | Nefarion | testify, i think you just want to complain man |
| 22:42.19 | testify | buu: you heard the changed to the druid arena epics moving from mp5 to spirit. THAT'S A NERF |
| 22:43.00 | Nefarion | i can't comment on that but i've heard sayings about that (specifically druid-related) spirit is situationally better |
| 22:43.16 | Nefarion | i remember it was related specifically to resto druids and some shit or another |
| 22:43.17 | testify | Nefarion: nah, Tichondrius has gone down at least 3 times this past week because of the people transferring to it |
| 22:43.19 | Nefarion | but i'm not a spirit user |
| 22:43.38 | Nefarion | transfers are different |
| 22:44.05 | testify | what? lol |
| 22:44.10 | Ellipsis | ugh |
| 22:44.16 | Ellipsis | they're swapping out a healer for more dps |
| 22:44.21 | Ellipsis | because the fight is going too long |
| 22:44.34 | Ellipsis | it's going too long because the dps is all DYING because we're not getting any HEALS |
| 22:44.35 | Nefarion | server population load and serverdata being added to the server from a character transfer are two very different things |
| 22:44.52 | Nefarion | lol elli |
| 22:44.54 | testify | ... |
| 22:45.22 | Ozguli | Nefarion don't druids shapeshift all the time anyway? |
| 22:45.29 | Ozguli | they get 100% regen in animal forms |
| 22:45.31 | testify | Nefarion: I'm saying that because of the server transfers, the server population is increasing, therefore it is becoming increasingly unstable and they refuse to stop transfers or cap the population |
| 22:45.33 | Nefarion | i'm not a druid |
| 22:45.45 | Ozguli | so spirit is all fine |
| 22:46.15 | Nefarion | whatever testify. go argue alone. you seem to enjoy it. |
| 22:46.26 | buu | testify: Damn those blizzard people always out to get you. |
| 22:46.28 | testify | yay I win |
| 22:47.52 | Nefarion | i know right buu? first they post all our private info on their armory, then they make us pay to get our name changed |
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| 22:48.25 | Ellipsis | can you make me one of those too Nefarion? I'm scared people will see my UBER LEET SPECZ :( |
| 22:50.00 | buu | Nefarion: Obviously they were running out of money so they started selling name changes. |
| 22:50.15 | NightHawkAtWork | Hee.. brilliant: http://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200711/error'd/spam.gif |
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| 22:50.36 | Ellipsis | never noticed that before? :P |
| 22:51.01 | NightHawkAtWork | I don't use thunderbird? |
| 22:51.02 | testify | Do you guys remember the "Before the Storm" patch? |
| 22:51.15 | testify | "The Rend Blackhand arena event in Upper Blackrock Spire will now properly reset after a wipe." |
| 22:51.39 | testify | That's the blizzard that I'm complaining about |
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| 22:53.53 | yssaril | ckknight: what is would be the easiest way to embed RockComm into a library? |
| 22:53.57 | Nefarion | god, back on it? |
| 22:55.00 | testify | Nefarion: I just had to find it, I had a REALLLLY long laugh at seeing that originally. I'm sure they meant to put it into the changelog as a joke about themselves. |
| 22:55.10 | Nefarion | testify, if you don't like blizzard, y'know how you can REALLY stick it to them in a way that'll totally hurt them? quit the game and delete your characters. |
| 22:55.36 | testify | You believe that? |
| 22:55.57 | Nefarion | if you think i do, based on that post... |
| 22:56.30 | testify | I actually do think you believe that. I certainly don't. |
| 22:56.57 | testify | I firmly believe in getting to the bottom of WHY blizzard is so retarded sometimes. |
| 22:57.19 | Nefarion | because people like you represent them |
| 22:57.56 | testify | hmmm |
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| 22:58.07 | testify | Nefarion: software developer? buu? |
| 22:58.24 | Nefarion | ? |
| 22:58.44 | testify | have you ever done any software development? |
| 22:58.54 | Ellipsis | ohshi, they want to do netherspite :( |
| 22:58.56 | Nefarion | not really |
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| 22:59.56 | testify | I'm pretty sure that's why I expect more than everyone else. |
| 23:00.23 | Nefarion | or it could be your ego |
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| 23:01.48 | kebinusan | So if a hunter names his pet his name or the name of his arena partner it really breaks proximo and the like since you cant reliably target the player by name |
| 23:01.54 | testify | doubtful |
| 23:02.30 | Nefarion | you can have proximo alert the hunter: be more creative =P |
| 23:03.28 | NightHawkAtWork | testify: interestingly, the more experience I get as a developer, the more sympathetic I am to blizzard. So I don't get what you're on about. |
| 23:03.48 | kebinusan | seems like an exploit of naming mechanics |
| 23:04.12 | Ellipsis | it breaks a lot more than just proximo |
| 23:04.13 | NightHawkAtWork | it's a clever use of names. :P |
| 23:04.15 | Nefarion | he's getting on about how he's superior to me because he can boast that he's something of a software developer, supposedly, and thus i should respect his word that blizzard sucks. |
| 23:04.22 | Nefarion | =) |
| 23:05.14 | Nefarion | yeah it would be nice to see better control over targeting to avoid said issues |
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| 23:06.39 | backbone87 | lua> local time, a = os.clock(); for i=1, 10000 do a = (a + 1) % 50 end print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:06.39 | cladbot | backbone87: [string "local time, a = os.clock(); for i=1, 10000 ..."]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'a' (a nil value) |
| 23:06.51 | backbone87 | lua> local time, a = os.clock(), 0; for i=1, 10000 do a = (a + 1) % 50 end print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:06.51 | cladbot | backbone87: 0.019999999999982 |
| 23:07.06 | backbone87 | lua> local time, a = os.clock(), 0; for i=1, 10000 do a = (a + 1) end print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:07.06 | cladbot | backbone87: 0.019999999999982 |
| 23:07.20 | backbone87 | oO |
| 23:08.04 | Nefarion | lua> "\n test" |
| 23:08.04 | cladbot | Nefarion: test |
| 23:08.07 | Nefarion | damn |
| 23:08.20 | NightHawkAtWork | hmm |
| 23:08.27 | backbone87 | lua> local time, a = os.clock(), 0; for i=1, 10000 do a = (a + 1); if a > 49 then a = a - 50 end end print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:08.28 | cladbot | backbone87: 0.019999999999982 |
| 23:08.32 | backbone87 | wtf |
| 23:08.34 | NightHawkAtWork | lua>"\r\n test" |
| 23:08.34 | cladbot | NightHawkAtWork: test |
| 23:08.53 | Nefarion | i wanted to see if i can linebreak in here so i can fake message lol |
| 23:09.02 | Nefarion | s* |
| 23:09.11 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah i figured. :P |
| 23:09.38 | backbone87 | lua> local time, a = os.clock(), 0; for i=1, 1000000 do a = (a + 1); if a > 49 then a = a - 50 end end print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:09.40 | cladbot | backbone87: 1.6200000000001 |
| 23:09.55 | backbone87 | lua> local time, a = os.clock(), 0; for i=1, 1000000 do a = (a + 1) % 50 end print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:09.57 | cladbot | backbone87: 1.6999999999998 |
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| 23:10.29 | backbone87 | lua> local time, a = os.clock(), 0; for i=1, 1000000 do end print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:10.31 | cladbot | backbone87: 1.5500000000002 |
| 23:11.23 | backbone87 | lua> local time, a = os.clock(), 0; for i=1, 1000000 do a = (a + 1); if a > 49 then a = 0 end end print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:11.25 | cladbot | backbone87: 1.6499999999999 |
| 23:11.31 | backbone87 | lua> local time, a = os.clock(), 0; for i=1, 1000000 do a = (a + 1); if a > 49 then a = 0 end end print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:11.33 | cladbot | backbone87: 1.75 |
| 23:11.40 | NightHawkAtWork | backbone87: can you do that in a query window? |
| 23:11.46 | backbone87 | sry |
| 23:11.52 | Nefarion | lua> local t={}; local time = os.clock(); for i = 1,1000000000000 do t[i]=true; end; print(os.clock() - time) |
| 23:11.52 | cladbot | Nefarion: sandbox.lua:157: maximum memory (5000 KiB) exceeded |
| 23:16.43 | Antiarc | Or just get a lua binary |
| 23:17.06 | NightHawkAtWork | either or. |
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| 23:18.17 | cladhaire | backbone87: or join #luabot |
| 23:18.20 | cladhaire | its what it's there for :P |
| 23:18.44 | cladhaire | the next version will have throttling, so it'll bitchslap you in PM's if you start spamming a channel |
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| 23:19.00 | cladhaire | PProvost_: needs more _ please. |
| 23:19.13 | Ellipsis | Nightbane's Cleave hits you for 10309. |
| 23:19.15 | Ellipsis | sweet! |
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| 23:27.56 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 23:28.04 | Ellipsis | that time it was miss, dodge, dead |
| 23:28.17 | Ellipsis | I survived three times longer than I expected! \o/ |
| 23:31.47 | aestil | yay for mage pvp alt character rolling need on heroic gem i need for raiding |
| 23:32.18 | Ellipsis | grats on owned <3 |
| 23:32.18 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53769 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: koKR update |
| 23:33.27 | aestil | yeah, i'm pretty steamed about it. |
| 23:33.34 | aestil | only reason i wante heroic bm was that gem |
| 23:33.43 | aestil | dropped off first boss, and he's like. 'i'll roll' |
| 23:37.13 | Ellipsis | which gem was it? |
| 23:39.06 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30594 i'm pretty sure! |
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| 23:43.39 | aestil | dmg+sta gem |
| 23:43.41 | aestil | 6/6 |
| 23:43.46 | aestil | for heroic 2.3 wand |
| 23:44.33 | Ellipsis | sweet |
| 23:44.37 | Ellipsis | want that gem :( |
| 23:46.38 | Moozh | hax |
| 23:46.43 | Moozh | hunters get more classHealth than warriors do |
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| 23:50.09 | Ellipsis | OP much? |
| 23:50.19 | Corgan | nerf imo |
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| 23:56.35 | backbone87 | Antiarc: got one but it executes very slowly |
| 23:56.53 | Antiarc | really? That's surprising, really |
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| 23:58.10 | backbone87 | kP for the process running at 50% cpu and it does some 1000 cycles and stops then for about 10 seks |
| 23:58.29 | Ellipsis | oh, oh god |
| 23:58.40 | Ellipsis | blue beam duty :( |
| 23:58.51 | backbone87 | hm? |
| 23:59.16 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: That's easy. Drain Life <3 |
