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| 00:03.26 | Aethelwulf | okay wau2 works... thanks :) |
| 00:04.20 | Gnarfoz | http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/paita3.jpg |
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| 00:06.18 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 00:08.39 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53469 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Malacrass.lua Zul'jin.lua): BigWigs: ZulAman: frFR Update |
| 00:08.41 | Wobwork | Gnarfoz: well.. he -could- be telling the truth |
| 00:13.11 | Ellipsis | is there anything useful to do with runecloth now? |
| 00:13.48 | Wobwork | origami? |
| 00:14.05 | Ellipsis | yeah that's what I figured :( |
| 00:24.01 | `Zypher | shadowpriest question: anyone know of a good VE/VT timer mod? |
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| 00:25.08 | Kemayo | Ellipsis: Tailor it into greens that produce illusion dust. Which can then be auctioned for appreciably more than arcane dust. |
| 00:26.16 | Kemayo | (Farming Strat for greens as a 70 and DEing everything blows away all other revenue sources I've found.) |
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| 00:27.28 | JoshBorke | `Zypher: i just use Quartz since i only worry about my target |
| 00:28.19 | `Zypher | i completely forgot about that feature |
| 00:28.20 | `Zypher | thanks |
| 00:28.37 | JoshBorke | you could also use EBB et al |
| 00:29.40 | `Zypher | i don't use ebb, buffalo ftw |
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| 00:40.08 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: i see you |
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| 00:49.44 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 00:52.12 | CIA-7 | 03mallen * r53470 10TradeBar/TradeBar.lua: |
| 00:52.12 | CIA-7 | TradeBar: |
| 00:52.12 | CIA-7 | - fixed Tailoring => Primal Mooncloth |
| 00:52.51 | CIA-7 | 03lilsparky * r53471 10LilSparkysWorkshop/lilsparkysworkshop.lua: |
| 00:52.51 | CIA-7 | LilSparkysWorkshop: |
| 00:52.51 | CIA-7 | - fixed value highlighting |
| 00:56.49 | Nefarion | hmm.. WAU2 runs kinda slow. |
| 00:58.51 | NivFreak | I'm still using jwowupdater |
| 00:58.56 | NivFreak | how does wau2 compare |
| 00:59.08 | Nefarion | looks pretty lol |
| 00:59.12 | NivFreak | heh |
| 00:59.14 | Nefarion | haven't updated with it yet |
| 00:59.43 | Nefarion | simpler config, can sort by categories, nice smart highlighting to show outdated/SVN/installed addons |
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| 00:59.54 | Nefarion | simpler searching, can show info a bit better |
| 01:00.08 | Nefarion | but it's noticeably slower compiling lists and such |
| 01:00.33 | Nefarion | seems strange at first. i think i'm used to it and it's been like 60 sec though. |
| 01:03.00 | Nefarion | anyone got a screenie of those cyCircled_VolM (matte) buttons? |
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| 01:04.12 | Nefarion | found some >> |
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| 01:08.56 | rubik | where? :P |
| 01:09.27 | Nefarion | back to 1.9. primitive update logs, ignores .nounpack folders (I want some things to unpack and others not to!), etc |
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| 01:12.19 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo 07dev * r53472 10BankStack/core.lua: BankStack: Fix usage of can_move. |
| 01:15.15 | Kemayo | I can't wait for the simplification of branch merging that the svn devs promise is coming. |
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| 01:20.39 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53473 10BankStack/core.lua: BankStack: Merge dev branch to trunk. |
| 01:21.17 | buu | Hrm. I know there's a way to change the 'bar texture' in pitbull, but I can't seem to find it any more. Can someone point out where it is hiding? |
| 01:21.50 | Nefarion | in the closet |
| 01:22.18 | Nefarion | it came out. to me yesterday. my ui's totally pinkified. (and i love it!) lol |
| 01:22.52 | Wobwork | you mean it's just FABULOUS =) |
| 01:23.24 | Nefarion | buu, it should be somewhere under the general settings |
| 01:23.32 | Nefarion | try clicking on the title "PitBull" itself |
| 01:23.45 | Nefarion | make sure you have SharedMedia as well |
| 01:25.19 | buu | Mmmmm, sharedmedia? |
| 01:26.09 | Nefarion | http://files.wowace.com/SharedMedia/SharedMedia.zip |
| 01:26.32 | Diao | !points 1800 |
| 01:26.32 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 01:26.35 | Diao | !rating 1800 |
| 01:26.43 | Diao | :( |
| 01:26.44 | buu | Ah, it was under general settings. Good call. |
| 01:26.46 | Diao | !rating 1800 |
| 01:26.46 | Xinhuan | 1800 rating gives 761(5s), 670(3s) and 578(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 01:26.47 | Nefarion | install that. it adds additional media (backgrounds, statusbars, etc) to SML-supported addons (PitBull, etc) |
| 01:27.06 | Nefarion | !points 1 |
| 01:27.06 | Xinhuan | 1 arena points require -59(5s), -58(3s) and -57(2s) team rating. |
| 01:27.09 | Nefarion | lol |
| 01:27.47 | Diao | lol |
| 01:28.05 | Nefarion | !points (1/0) |
| 01:28.05 | Xinhuan | (1/0) is not a number, idiot. |
| 01:28.21 | Nefarion | i just got insulted by a bot |
| 01:30.07 | Wobwork | You totally deserved it |
| 01:30.46 | Diao | lmao |
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| 01:36.29 | Nefarion | what the fuck http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7048/lolicideap4.jpg |
| 01:37.54 | Corgan | that's awesome |
| 01:38.14 | Nefarion | my mind isn't sure whether to laugh or cry |
| 01:38.30 | Corgan | !rating 1 |
| 01:38.31 | Xinhuan | 1 rating gives 14(5s), 13(3s) and 11(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 01:39.19 | Nefarion | !rating 980 |
| 01:39.19 | Xinhuan | 980 rating gives 230(5s), 202(3s) and 174(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 01:39.43 | Nefarion | !rating 30000 |
| 01:39.44 | Xinhuan | 30000 rating gives 1511(5s), 1330(3s) and 1149(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 01:41.27 | JoshBorke | found a bug in pitbull/quark |
| 01:41.50 | JoshBorke | it doesn't check for casting status on TargetUnit |
| 01:42.14 | Nefarion | whatnow? |
| 01:42.17 | Nefarion | example? |
| 01:42.26 | JoshBorke | party member is summoning someone |
| 01:42.37 | JoshBorke | if you click on them (target) you will not get a cast bar |
| 01:43.06 | Aviana | its the known bug when targeting in the middle of a cast |
| 01:43.12 | Nefarion | ~seen ckknight |
| 01:43.14 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 51m 15s) #wowace (2h 51m 15s), last said: 'mt'. |
| 01:43.19 | Aviana | u got the newest version? |
| 01:43.26 | JoshBorke | Aviana: no, i don't run rock mods |
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| 01:43.32 | Nefarion | lol? |
| 01:43.39 | Aviana | i fixed this a fev versions ago |
| 01:43.54 | JoshBorke | Aviana: ok, i'll probably just backport it |
| 01:43.58 | JoshBorke | to my local copy |
| 01:44.14 | Nefarion | i don't run dongle mods. i mean dey lyk fuk it awll up yu no? |
| 01:44.16 | Gnarfoz | great way to increase superfluous bug reports, tho! :) |
| 01:44.37 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53474 10BankStack/core.lua: BankStack: Once a slot has been used as a target, stop it being used as a source as well. (Compressing with two incomplete stacks whose total was > stacksize would just shuffle things around.) |
| 01:44.44 | JoshBorke | Gnarfoz: superfluous indeed, aviana let me know it was fixed and then that was that. i could have checked jira but i am lazy |
| 01:45.19 | JoshBorke | and at which point no matter what there will be superfluous bugs |
| 01:45.25 | JoshBorke | anyone know if it is fixed in quartz? |
| 01:45.26 | buu | Well this is odd. I'm messing with pitbull, I added a 'target' frame and a 'target of target' frame, and now whenever I target myself, random things are blinking. One time the target was blinking, another time the ToT was blinking, now random buffs are blinking.. |
| 01:45.59 | hyperChipmunk | JoshBorke: give meh your local copy after you fix it |
| 01:46.17 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: you put a branch in trunk and i'll fix it there :-D |
| 01:46.24 | hyperChipmunk | screw that |
| 01:46.32 | hyperChipmunk | that sounds like effort |
| 01:47.03 | hyperChipmunk | i haven't even put any effort into finding a non-rock-encrusted version because i'm too lazy; what makes you think i'm gonna do that? |
| 01:47.36 | hyperChipmunk | i just deal with getting pissed off every time i accidentally bring up its config >8P |
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| 01:48.06 | JoshBorke | delete config imo |
| 01:48.36 | JoshBorke | Aviana: you change the arguments passed to UNIT_SPELLCAST_START? o.O |
| 01:48.48 | Aviana | yes |
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| 01:49.07 | Aviana | it actually worked oO |
| 01:49.33 | buu | Rock's config makes me so happy. |
| 01:49.36 | buu | It's hot. |
| 01:49.41 | Stathis | good evening, can i ask some (nubish) ui questions? |
| 01:50.02 | Wobwork | It's surely possible |
| 01:50.41 | Stathis | i've been looking to make a new ui for my warrior, and i was noticing many ui pics have addons coming up when you're in combat and when idling they're just clear |
| 01:51.14 | hyperChipmunk | that's a dynamic pic, eh |
| 01:51.20 | Stathis | how is it possible to do that, and does it affect your gameplay (like minor stops and lagish behavior) between the transition? |
| 01:51.37 | JoshBorke | Stathis: no, usually not |
| 01:51.52 | hyperChipmunk | it wouldn't change anything; i don't know which addon does that though |
| 01:52.09 | Stathis | does the specific addons i have to install have to offer that incombat ability or is it a generic mod that does that? |
| 01:52.41 | Aviana | some mods may have that feature some may req 3. party |
| 01:52.59 | Stathis | hmm..it doesnt seem to be a simple job then..:-( |
| 01:53.28 | Zhinjio | if you want to hide unti frames, you need to use one one of the UF mods that supports hiding when out of combat. |
| 01:53.44 | Zhinjio | if you're trying to hide ggraphical elements (textures), you'll need to use something like DART |
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| 01:53.55 | Zhinjio | pretty much everything else is going to be mod-specific. |
| 01:54.41 | Xinhuan | woo the requirements for Arena teams to be counted in total calculations has been posted |
| 01:54.47 | Stathis | not just unit frames, i'd like to simply remove elements like ktm/damage meters when i solo, while keeping them up once i enter a raid... |
| 01:54.50 | Stathis | something like that |
| 01:55.03 | Aviana | eepanels supports hiding : http://www.wowace.com/wiki/EePanels_Scripts |
| 01:55.10 | ulic | ktm and omen both have those features I believe |
| 01:55.14 | Zhinjio | use Omen instead, it supports hiding when solo |
| 01:55.24 | Zhinjio | Not sure about ktm. I abandoned it awhile ago |
| 01:55.56 | Xinhuan | The requirements for a team to be counted (both requirements must be met): 1. The team must have played at least 20 games during the season. 2. The team must have at least one player that has played in 20% or more of the total games for that team. |
| 01:55.58 | Stathis | eepanels seems like a nice reading, i'll get on to that and see what i can manage :-P |
| 01:56.34 | Stathis | also is there a nice replacement for aftte tooltip mod? it seems its outdated atm |
| 01:56.37 | ulic | Xinhuan: "to be counted" as what? |
| 01:57.04 | Xinhuan | to be counted towards the total number of teams for the "top 0.5%" gladiator titles |
| 01:57.16 | Aviana | cowtip from the wonderful rock universe :P |
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| 01:58.02 | Stathis | i'll try that, and tinytip |
| 01:58.04 | Stathis | thanks a lot |
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| 01:58.42 | ulic | Xinhuan: ah |
| 01:59.26 | Diao | yea Xinhuan |
| 01:59.37 | Diao | doesn't stop people from buying teams still though :( |
| 01:59.40 | Diao | er titles |
| 01:59.41 | Diao | whatevr |
| 01:59.54 | Xinhuan | i was offered a gladiator title for 3000g heh |
| 02:00.06 | Diao | lol |
| 02:00.10 | Stathis | hmm...isnt auctioneer an ace mod? |
| 02:00.15 | Diao | i was debating buying it just for the mount |
| 02:00.16 | Zhinjio | nope |
| 02:00.16 | Wobwork | nope |
| 02:00.19 | Diao | the extra 30% movement is nice |
| 02:00.20 | Wobwork | never was never will be |
| 02:00.34 | Xinhuan | i am debating just ninjaing the next phoenix mount ;p |
| 02:00.35 | Stathis | any ace mod that does the same? i'd like an ace only ui |
| 02:00.43 | Wobwork | nope |
| 02:00.47 | Stathis | duh |
| 02:00.51 | Stathis | oh well |
| 02:00.52 | Wobwork | and try auctioneer advanced |
| 02:01.04 | Wobwork | it doesn't have to be an ace mod to be written well =P |
| 02:01.29 | Aviana | yeah and some guys even fuck up ace mods (like me) |
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| 02:01.50 | Wobwork | It's true =( |
| 02:02.17 | Wobwork | but anyway, auc advanced is highly recommended |
| 02:02.26 | Wobwork | and with the 2.3 changes, it'll be even better |
| 02:02.33 | Wobwork | thank god for single pull AH data |
| 02:02.39 | Xinhuan | what status is AA in atm? |
| 02:02.40 | vithos | indeed |
| 02:02.48 | Xinhuan | still alpha? or beta? |
| 02:02.54 | Wobwork | hm |
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| 02:03.17 | Zhinjio | the note up there says "public preview", whatever that means |
| 02:03.27 | JoshBorke | i use it just fine |
| 02:03.29 | Zhinjio | I would guess tha means beta |
| 02:03.42 | Wobwork | Gamma? |
| 02:03.49 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 02:03.57 | Wobwork | The Gamma for AuctioneerAdvanced and WoW Patch 2.2.0 is available from the main download page of the site. This version is highly stable, but still not 100% feature complete. It has had a whole heap of bug fixes since the last Public Preview version, and any users who are using the Public Preview version should upgrade to the Gamma version. |
| 02:04.41 | Wobwork | oh it's still classified as Alpha |
| 02:05.16 | vithos | i thought gamma is on the other side of beta from alpha :( |
| 02:05.30 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 02:05.33 | Wobwork | It's a schism between what's on the news page |
| 02:05.38 | Wobwork | and whats on the download page |
| 02:05.44 | vithos | ah |
| 02:05.52 | vithos | i just get the svn zips anyway |
| 02:06.00 | Wobwork | s'true |
| 02:06.14 | Wobwork | it's not as if you don't use alpha level addons every day from wowsvn anyway =P |
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| 02:13.18 | CIA-7 | 03bigzero * r53475 10AutoProfitX/AutoProfitX.toc: |
| 02:13.18 | CIA-7 | AutoProfitX: |
| 02:13.18 | CIA-7 | - fixed dependencies in .toc |
| 02:14.38 | CIA-7 | 03bigzero * r53476 10AutoProfitX/AutoProfitX.lua: |
| 02:14.38 | CIA-7 | AutoProfitX: |
| 02:14.38 | CIA-7 | - Invalid links don't DC anymore, so no more checking for that. |
| 02:15.17 | CIA-7 | 03zhinjio * r53477 10/branches/SKG/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:15.18 | CIA-7 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 02:15.18 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.14 | Stathis | is there an addon like TwinTrinkets that you get 2 buttons according to what trinkets you equip, and you can use them via those? |
| 02:16.29 | Stathis | twintrinkets doesnt work that well lately...:-( |
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| 02:27.23 | Xinhuan | diao |
| 02:27.28 | Xinhuan | are you able to connect to BR? |
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| 02:28.09 | Diao | nope :( |
| 02:28.14 | Diao | stuck at connected |
| 02:28.15 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 02:28.16 | purl | :/ |
| 02:29.35 | Diao | guildies on vent saying they're on |
| 02:29.40 | Diao | but apparently nobody new can connect |
| 02:31.35 | Wobwork | Blackrock... down? =) |
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| 02:31.45 | Xinhuan | can't connect to it zz |
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| 02:39.47 | Xinhuan | BR Up |
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| 02:40.47 | Diao | kk |
| 02:48.29 | buu | Also, how do you disable that grayish background for the pitbull frames? |
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| 02:57.50 | Neebler | buu: it's under colors |
| 02:57.56 | Neebler | global settings I believe |
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| 03:01.24 | Nefarion | hola |
| 03:02.08 | Nefarion | ~seen Kyahx |
| 03:02.10 | purl | kyahx <n=Kyahx@74-46-188-117.dsl2.mond.mn.frontiernet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 64d 6h 40m 15s ago, saying: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X76ZIGQgBWg -- o.O'. |
| 03:02.16 | Nefarion | wow |
| 03:02.30 | JoshBorke | ~seen cryect |
| 03:02.31 | purl | cryect is currently on #wowace (9h 56m 59s). Has said a total of 43 messages. Is idling for 3h 32m 22s, last said: 'Did they fix the bugs in BUffalo2 ever?'. |
| 03:02.43 | JoshBorke | no shit... |
| 03:02.48 | JoshBorke | Cryect: pingaling |
| 03:03.33 | Nefarion | yeah i'm pretty new to the svn and i'm guessing this guy doesn't want to, but there's a fixed version of FreeRefills on the forums and the author hasn't been seen in months. what's the policy on updating in that case? can he or i just go ahead, or? |
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| 03:08.02 | Nefarion | are there any free archive programs that integrate into the windows explorer like XP's zip system likes to? |
| 03:09.59 | JoshBorke | Nefarion: i like 7zip |
| 03:10.02 | Jagobah | like, showing contents of zip files as folders? |
| 03:10.08 | Nefarion | yes Jago |
| 03:10.13 | Nefarion | i have 7-zip, Josh |
| 03:10.18 | Jagobah | What's wrong with how XP does it? Do you need it for 2000? |
| 03:10.31 | Nefarion | It doesn't handle anything besides .zip |
| 03:10.38 | Nefarion | no gzip, no rar, etc |
| 03:11.03 | Nefarion | i hate having something so detached from normal file browsing |
| 03:11.10 | Nefarion | as 7-zip is |
| 03:11.10 | Jagobah | Such a program would have to modify one of the Windows DLL files that handles the zip compression |
| 03:11.42 | Nefarion | Why exactly? Programs like TSVN hook the explorer just fine. |
| 03:12.20 | Nefarion | I don't need it to add anything to the original structure, why not just an additional structure that hooks in a similar way so it's seemingly ...seemless |
| 03:12.24 | Jagobah | Could be that it uses its own DLL? |
| 03:12.30 | Jagobah | idk :( |
| 03:12.43 | Nefarion | well it's surely not impossible |
| 03:13.07 | Jagobah | Only free archivers I know are IZArc and 7zip |
| 03:18.12 | Xelopheris | So, I thought I was cool earlier when I got 2.2 primal earths out of one rich adamantite mine |
| 03:18.18 | Xelopheris | but I just got 1.9 primal fires :O |
| 03:18.38 | xyu | wow fears through the door during kael = fun. jk jk jk |
| 03:18.47 | Nefarion | lol |
| 03:18.50 | Xelopheris | don't stand near the door when you can be feared |
| 03:19.03 | Xinhuan | what |
| 03:19.07 | Xinhuan | you got 22 motes from a single node? |
| 03:19.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | well bummer |
| 03:19.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | no more easy gear upgrades |
| 03:19.23 | xyu | what was even funnier was thala gazed the person outside the door and reset ^_^ |
| 03:19.42 | Xinhuan | that's really annoying |
| 03:19.46 | Xinhuan | cos it just wastes time |
| 03:19.52 | Nefarion | well it doesn't help that everyone assumes somebody else will report those kinda bugs. the more it's brought to their attention on the forums the more likely wall-breaking fear is to be fixed. |
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| 03:20.34 | Xinhuan | solution: dont tank sanguinar near the door |
| 03:20.42 | Xinhuan | or make sure ppl don't stand near it |
| 03:21.01 | Nefarion | or take a video, pair it up with mildy funny music and youtube it |
| 03:21.17 | Nefarion | s'all good |
| 03:22.36 | the-golem | boooo |
| 03:22.43 | the-golem | cant get this netherspite strat down |
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| 03:24.34 | JoshBorke | yay, 1020 shadow damage unbuffed |
| 03:29.10 | Xinhuan | i hate you priests with dedicated +shadow gear |
| 03:29.44 | Xinhuan | they should make gear that only +arcane/fire/frost imo! |
| 03:30.00 | Nefarion | and screw the warlocks |
| 03:30.07 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 03:30.16 | Xinhuan | warlocks are like top dps anyway |
| 03:30.50 | Nefarion | bitch you guys bow to us lawl |
| 03:31.26 | Xinhuan | then MSD nerf, TLC nerf, Evocation nerf |
| 03:31.27 | Xinhuan | meh |
| 03:31.57 | Nefarion | there's a problem |
| 03:32.02 | Nefarion | you assume blizzard likes your class |
| 03:32.51 | Speeddymon | the only class blizzard likes is hunters.. they are the most friggin OP class in the game |
| 03:33.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm almost at 750 shadow |
| 03:33.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | wait |
| 03:33.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah 739 |
| 03:33.45 | Nefarion | Speeddymon, no they aren't |
| 03:33.49 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://wowhead.com/?item=30666 <-- dropped last night :) |
| 03:33.51 | Nefarion | not at all |
| 03:33.54 | Nefarion | not even close |
| 03:34.05 | Nefarion | grats |
| 03:34.36 | RaydenUnicyclist | also got the ring off moroes |
| 03:34.41 | RaydenUnicyclist | it was a good night |
| 03:34.48 | RaydenUnicyclist | my 2nd kz run too :) |
| 03:34.54 | Nefarion | on that note anyone else laughing at the aimed shot -healing? |
| 03:36.04 | Nefarion | nice idea but they needed to make that a dedicated shot, and less of a cast time (or no cast time with less reduction) |
| 03:37.04 | durcyn | Cryect: were you just playing TF2? |
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| 03:40.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | too bad i didn't get the cloak off moroes |
| 03:40.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | warlock got that |
| 03:40.32 | Cryect | durcyn: yes I was |
| 03:40.41 | Cryect | heh, were you on the NeoGAF East server? |
| 03:41.18 | Cryect | I should have joined central >_> some of the worst players I've seen in a while especially the 6 spies :-p |
| 03:42.09 | JoshBorke | hi cryect =D |
| 03:42.10 | JoshBorke | ltns |
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| 03:42.25 | Cryect | Heh hi JoshBorke |
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| 03:42.34 | JoshBorke | fix recount, kthxbai |
| 03:42.35 | Cryect | I've been busy with nonwow stuff since quiting :-p |
| 03:42.39 | Cryect | whats broken with it? |
| 03:42.54 | JoshBorke | someone messed up their real time graph and can't move it |
| 03:42.55 | Cryect | people were supposed to tell me if it broke so I could know to fix it! |
| 03:43.05 | JoshBorke | oh, uh huh, cause you were in channel so much =P |
| 03:43.15 | durcyn | Cryect: yeah, it's pretty sad, oh well |
| 03:43.16 | Cryect | I've got other friends besides this channel :-p |
| 03:43.50 | Cryect | All the better players appear to be on centrla |
| 03:43.57 | Cryect | I hope lazytown has been fixed though |
| 03:44.10 | JoshBorke | didn't know you had quit wow |
| 03:44.21 | Nefarion | blasphemy |
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| 03:49.59 | Cryect | Yeah I quit WoW a few months aog :-p |
| 03:51.23 | durcyn | Cryect: oh well, you can still be my steam friend. i won't hate you. |
| 03:51.30 | Cryect | haha |
| 03:52.46 | JoshBorke | can't be mine though |
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| 04:00.30 | xyu | kael to 62% >< close!`~!~ |
| 04:02.02 | Zhinjio | question: when attempting to modify the text properties on a button, it seems like you have to create and modify a FontString object and then modify that, and then assign the button's font object to be the fontstring you were working with. Is that correct? |
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| 04:03.45 | sedatedChipmunk | i think you're thinking of a label for the button |
| 04:03.56 | sedatedChipmunk | you can set the text of a button with button:SetText('foo') |
| 04:04.02 | Zhinjio | I don't mean the text itself. |
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| 04:04.16 | Zhinjio | I mean the *properties* of the text, for example, left justification |
| 04:04.26 | Zhinjio | that isn't a method on a button |
| 04:04.50 | sedatedChipmunk | so you're proposing making a fontstring that just happens to be positioned above the button |
| 04:04.56 | JoshBorke | Zhinjio: yes, that is correct |
| 04:04.56 | sedatedChipmunk | not actually button text |
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| 04:05.02 | Zhinjio | no, ther eis a method for a button.. .uh... |
| 04:05.14 | Zhinjio | SetFontString |
| 04:05.16 | JoshBorke | sedatedChipmunk: he's asking about changing the font of a buton |
| 04:05.28 | sedatedChipmunk | button:SetFont() |
| 04:05.29 | Nefarion | no he isn't |
| 04:05.32 | JoshBorke | and technically you don't have to create the fontstring |
| 04:05.42 | sedatedChipmunk | he wants a custom fontstring instead of button text |
| 04:05.50 | Nefarion | "I mean the *properties* of the text, for example, left justification" |
| 04:05.53 | sedatedChipmunk | or maybe i'm stupid |
| 04:05.55 | Zhinjio | setFont only lets me change the font like "GameFontNormal", no? |
| 04:06.04 | sedatedChipmunk | button text isn't that complex |
| 04:06.15 | JoshBorke | oh, button:SetJustifyH("LEFT") |
| 04:06.24 | Nefarion | simply make a new fontstring to lay over the button, parented and anchored to the button |
| 04:06.25 | Zhinjio | that isn't a valid method on a button |
| 04:07.01 | sedatedChipmunk | Nefarion: yeah, i think that's what he was meaning |
| 04:07.01 | Nefarion | if you really want it to look neat, register a script on mouse-up and mouse-down that moves the font-string a couple pixels with the button |
| 04:07.03 | Zhinjio | I get the "attempt to call 'SetJustifyH' (a nil value) |
| 04:07.21 | JoshBorke | www.wowwiki.com |
| 04:07.40 | Nefarion | button = CreateFrame("Button"); [blah]; button.text = button:CreateFontString(...); [blah] |
| 04:07.46 | sedatedChipmunk | because it's derived from frame, not fontinstance |
| 04:07.58 | Nefarion | button.text:SetPoint("CENTER",button,"CENTER"); there you go |
| 04:08.02 | Zhinjio | Nefarion: thats what I'm doing. |
| 04:08.05 | JoshBorke | Zhinjio: button:GetFontString():SetJustifyH("LEFT") |
| 04:08.09 | Nefarion | so what's the problem? |
| 04:08.11 | Zhinjio | just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. |
| 04:08.17 | Zhinjio | and that was the right way to do it. |
| 04:08.31 | sedatedChipmunk | oh, JoshBorke has something there |
| 04:08.33 | Zhinjio | I'm sorry. that was alot of confusion |
| 04:08.38 | sedatedChipmunk | nono |
| 04:08.45 | sedatedChipmunk | try what jb just proposed |
| 04:08.47 | Nefarion | JoshBorke does indeed |
| 04:08.54 | JoshBorke | the button fontstring is not initilazed until text has been set |
| 04:09.07 | Nefarion | local text = button:GetFontstring() |
| 04:09.21 | Nefarion | set the text first then |
| 04:09.22 | sedatedChipmunk | the original thing you said was basically making a fonstring that happened to be in the same place as the button |
| 04:09.39 | JoshBorke | ie, local b = CreateFrame("Button", <stuff>); local f = b:GetFontString(); assert(f == nil) |
| 04:09.59 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm both stupid and incredibly tired; sorry for the confusion |
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| 04:10.40 | Zhinjio | I tried this: |
| 04:10.41 | Zhinjio | Temp_ListItem:GetFontString():SetJustifyLeft( "LEFT" ) |
| 04:10.49 | Zhinjio | woops. meh. |
| 04:10.53 | Zhinjio | anyway,... same error |
| 04:11.04 | Zhinjio | the line before was the SetText of the Temp_ListItem object |
| 04:11.07 | JoshBorke | what error? |
| 04:11.21 | Zhinjio | same: attempt to call "SetJustifyH" (a nil value) |
| 04:11.22 | Nefarion | is there text in the fontstring? |
| 04:11.29 | Nefarion | then do |
| 04:11.38 | Zhinjio | I did SetText( "" ) |
| 04:11.59 | Nefarion | local button = CreateFrame("Button",...); button.text = button:CreateFontString(...); |
| 04:12.17 | Zhinjio | yeah, that method works, Nefarion. I was just trying Josh's method there. |
| 04:12.19 | Nefarion | button.text:SetPoint(you get the point) |
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| 04:12.38 | Nefarion | yeah i vaguely recall running into issues with button text myself |
| 04:12.54 | Zhinjio | well, I'll keep doing what works until someone shows me a cool shortcut *grin* |
| 04:12.58 | Nefarion | i don't think it's just you =/ |
| 04:13.23 | Zhinjio | thats good to know. I often wonder. |
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| 04:13.25 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 04:13.25 | Nefarion | well using the button's text is really no different; they're both fontstrings parented and anchored to the button. |
| 04:13.26 | JoshBorke | it should just be Temp_ListItem:GetFontString():SetJustifyH("LEFT") |
| 04:13.37 | Nefarion | the only difference if they're initialized differently |
| 04:13.56 | Nefarion | is* |
| 04:14.14 | Paradox_ | seems Ackisrecipelist is missing a lot of recipes.. |
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| 04:16.03 | syeren | ckknight_, whenever you decide to fix / update Pitbull, please put in Pixel placement of frames >_> |
| 04:17.09 | Nefarion | that would be a nice feature |
| 04:18.01 | Spiffy | hm.. inside of Ace event handler functions like addon:GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE, can you access 'self'? |
| 04:18.10 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 04:18.14 | JoshBorke | because of how lua works |
| 04:18.24 | sedatedChipmunk | : -> has self |
| 04:18.28 | sedatedChipmunk | . -> not has sel |
| 04:18.32 | JoshBorke | go to sleep sedated |
| 04:18.37 | Nefarion | lol |
| 04:18.43 | sedatedChipmunk | i took a shower cuz i was stanky |
| 04:18.52 | JoshBorke | ok, well, no one wants to think of you as nekkid |
| 04:19.02 | sedatedChipmunk | i have a towel |
| 04:19.41 | Nefarion | function table . key () doesn't have self unless you list it as arg1. function table : key () does automatically, and assumes it's passed as arg1. calling table : key () auto-passes it, calling table . key () must have it passed manually. |
| 04:19.47 | Nefarion | clear it up? |
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| 04:20.36 | Nefarion | on the first example, if you list it it still needs to be passed, either by calling it as table:key() or by passing it: table.key(table,...) |
| 04:21.54 | Spiffy | When using http://ace.pastey.net/76132 I get an error saying that it's trying to reference local self and it's nil |
| 04:22.23 | Nefarion | at line? |
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| 04:22.28 | Nefarion | oh i see |
| 04:23.34 | Spiffy | its been perplexing me for awhile now |
| 04:23.43 | sedatedChipmunk | you don't pass in arg1 |
| 04:24.01 | Nefarion | wow i'm falling asleep at the keyboard |
| 04:24.22 | sedatedChipmunk | events get empty parameter lists |
| 04:24.25 | JoshBorke | why wouldn't he? |
| 04:24.34 | JoshBorke | because you're passing around global references? |
| 04:24.53 | sedatedChipmunk | events work that way |
| 04:24.59 | JoshBorke | that's dumb =P |
| 04:25.54 | Spiffy | ok, that's weird |
| 04:26.53 | JoshBorke | despite that spiffy |
| 04:26.57 | JoshBorke | there's nothing wrong with that code |
| 04:27.03 | JoshBorke | something has to be redefining self |
| 04:27.06 | JoshBorke | paste the entire fiunction |
| 04:27.10 | sedatedChipmunk | yeah |
| 04:27.21 | JoshBorke | and go away sC |
| 04:27.33 | sedatedChipmunk | i am away |
| 04:27.34 | sedatedChipmunk | see |
| 04:27.37 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm sedated |
| 04:27.42 | sedatedChipmunk | that means i'm sleeping |
| 04:28.09 | Nefarion | that's pretty impressive multitasking then |
| 04:28.24 | sedatedChipmunk | maybe you're hallucinating |
| 04:28.47 | Nefarion | maybe YOURE halunaniamamting |
| 04:29.37 | Spiffy | k, full function: http://ace.pastey.net/76133 |
| 04:29.49 | syeren | Sigh, I want my PartyPets to have the same X Axis as my Party -_- |
| 04:29.54 | syeren | But oh no, a pixel or something. |
| 04:30.43 | Nefarion | get a more precise mouse |
| 04:30.52 | syeren | My mouse has 3200 DPI :/ |
| 04:30.58 | syeren | Which makes it about as precise as you get. |
| 04:31.04 | sedatedChipmunk | my mouse has like 2 dpi |
| 04:31.07 | sedatedChipmunk | and mine line up |
| 04:31.07 | JoshBorke | Spiffy: and you said the error you're getting is self is not defined? |
| 04:31.15 | Spiffy | yea.. that self is nil |
| 04:32.07 | Nefarion | lua> t={} function t:someFunc() print(self) end; t:someFunc(); |
| 04:32.08 | cladbot | Nefarion: { ["someFunc"] = function: 0xb95b328 } (#1) |
| 04:32.11 | Spiffy | FuBar_AttuneFu-1.0\AttuneFu.lua:58: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value) |
| 04:32.13 | Nefarion | works here lol |
| 04:32.31 | sedatedChipmunk | that's a fu thing; i've seen it before but i don't remember what made it happen |
| 04:32.56 | Nefarion | maybe fu's fucking with how the args are passed, so the table isn't being passed? |
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| 04:33.14 | JoshBorke | i see how it is, just blame it on fubar |
| 04:33.36 | Nefarion | fine, let's blame it on ace |
| 04:33.44 | JoshBorke | fine by me |
| 04:33.53 | Spiffy | well it does trace back into a FuBar lua file as well |
| 04:33.55 | bigzero | hey, how do I set up a mod so that wowace updater downloads the dependencies automatically? Is it just in toc or through svn or what? |
| 04:33.56 | Nefarion | spiff, Ace2, right? |
| 04:34.15 | Nefarion | as a developer or use big? |
| 04:34.20 | bigzero | dev |
| 04:34.23 | Spiffy | or it did.. now its tracing to AceEvent |
| 04:34.37 | Spiffy | yea Ace2 |
| 04:34.52 | sedatedChipmunk | i think it was something to do with not giving it a db or something |
| 04:34.57 | sedatedChipmunk | that was a friggin long time ago |
| 04:35.27 | JoshBorke | nn all |
| 04:35.53 | Spiffy | ill see if the Ace2 line info helps |
| 04:36.12 | Spiffy | http://ace.pastey.net/76134 |
| 04:36.14 | Nefarion | can you copy the error for us |
| 04:36.43 | Nefarion | that was fast |
| 04:36.46 | bigzero | so is there any tutorial on the setup or maybe a quick tip? |
| 04:36.50 | Spiffy | hehe, ahead of you this time =p |
| 04:37.26 | JoshBorke | nn all |
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| 04:38.39 | Spiffy | yes? |
| 04:39.21 | Paradox_ | is there an alternative to AckisRecipeList that has a full list? |
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| 04:42.07 | Xinhuan | no |
| 04:47.45 | Spiffy | any ideas nef? |
| 04:48.26 | bigzero | talking about ackisrecipelist, has anyone looked at the way that addon stores data? Seems very inefficient |
| 04:49.05 | Nefarion | i dunno the issue seems to be with ace |
| 04:49.28 | Spiffy | i'm willing to be its 90% due to my stupid code |
| 04:49.31 | Spiffy | bet* |
| 04:50.13 | bigzero | I can't believe that out of all the devs out here there is noone willing to answer my question regarding addon dependencies... |
| 04:50.21 | bigzero | it can't be that hard to set up |
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| 04:50.59 | Cryect | bigzero its something about setting your TOC right |
| 04:51.07 | Nefarion | try reading the site |
| 04:51.21 | Cryect | I think the TOC tutorial should tell you |
| 04:51.47 | Nefarion | i remember the svn for beginners said something about some shit or another to do with settings up externals, and i'm sure if it doesn't tell you directly there it at least links the proper page |
| 04:52.43 | bigzero | yeah, I've set up the svn with the externals, but wowace updater is not picking up the settings I guess |
| 04:52.50 | bigzero | will try it again |
| 04:53.00 | Cryect | Externs is so they are autoincluded in teh zip |
| 04:53.13 | Cryect | but if someone is using WAU with externs not included that won't get them |
| 04:53.26 | Bejitt | bigzero: which addon? you can double check the svn:externals on fisheye |
| 04:53.45 | bigzero | autoprofitx...but probably my other addons are messed up too |
| 04:54.46 | Bejitt | hmm they look ok |
| 04:56.30 | Wobwork | anyone know what sort of maintenence we have tonight? |
| 04:57.44 | ZealotOnAStick | pretty sure just normal or short. |
| 04:58.28 | Bejitt | bigzero: downloading the zip looks fine. what's missing? |
| 04:58.41 | Xinhuan | uh to make dependencies work correctly with WAU |
| 04:58.48 | Xinhuan | you need to set the ## X-Embeds: |
| 04:58.51 | Xinhuan | in the TOC |
| 04:58.55 | Bejitt | ahhh that |
| 04:59.02 | Wobwork | ZealotOnAStick: short as in reboot? |
| 04:59.06 | Xinhuan | to each "addon" that it is using as a embedded library |
| 04:59.32 | Xinhuan | WAU will read that and download each "addon" listed in X-Embeds as a dependency if instructed to |
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| 04:59.42 | bigzero | thanks, xin...i actually started doing that but wanted to make sure that was it before starting to spam svn with updates |
| 04:59.42 | Xinhuan | install addons without exrernals |
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| 04:59.58 | Bejitt | bigzero: you use gratuity, so dont forget deformat :p |
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| 05:00.20 | CIA-7 | 03bigzero * r53478 10AutoProfitX/ (AutoProfitX.toc embeds.xml): |
| 05:00.20 | CIA-7 | AutoProfitX: |
| 05:00.20 | CIA-7 | - Dependencies should really be fixed now...i hope |
| 05:00.21 | Xinhuan | yeah you have to list each dependency as well as dependencies of those dependcies ;p |
| 05:00.28 | Bejitt | yea >_< |
| 05:00.33 | bigzero | damn it!!! |
| 05:00.34 | bigzero | lol |
| 05:00.43 | Xinhuan | well at least, you can't rely on the depencies to have them listed properly themselves these days |
| 05:00.44 | Bejitt | you'll have to add them to your externals too |
| 05:01.23 | bigzero | wait, but wowace would see the dependency and try to download it and check the dependency's dep list |
| 05:01.24 | bigzero | right? |
| 05:01.33 | Xinhuan | wau is not wowace |
| 05:01.41 | bigzero | err wau is what i meant |
| 05:01.42 | Xinhuan | the SVN only looks at svn:externals |
| 05:01.50 | Xinhuan | WAU only looks at X-Embeds |
| 05:02.11 | Xinhuan | in X-Embeds, you have to list the "name of the addon" |
| 05:02.25 | bigzero | right |
| 05:02.26 | Xinhuan | so it would be like "WindowLib" that would be listed, and not "Window-1.0" |
| 05:02.44 | Xinhuan | for some of the older named libraries that is |
| 05:03.44 | Xinhuan | the zip script only looks at svn:externals to create the zips |
| 05:03.48 | Xinhuan | and WAU downloads that zip |
| 05:04.03 | Bejitt | and X-Embeds is for if you dont want the embeds |
| 05:04.04 | Xinhuan | for "with externals" |
| 05:04.08 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 05:05.11 | Nefarion | ace doesn't auto-load libs does it? |
| 05:05.17 | Zhinjio | ah, thats interesting. I had questions about that as well. I will save this screen off and use it later when I get to that. |
| 05:05.45 | Xinhuan | ace2 does auto-enable libs if they are disabled. but only possible if the libs are LoD |
| 05:06.05 | Xinhuan | there is a flag at the top of AceLibrary-2.0.lua that you can change from true to false to disable this behavior |
| 05:06.08 | Nefarion | laziness lol |
| 05:06.09 | Xinhuan | but its a manual edit |
| 05:08.52 | CIA-7 | 03bejitt * r53479 10Spyglass/ (Bindings.xml core.lua): |
| 05:08.52 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 05:08.53 | CIA-7 | - Added key binding to toggle showing the inspect window |
| 05:11.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | macros aren't stored in a txt file i can edit are they? |
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| 05:11.32 | Nefarion | yes |
| 05:12.22 | bigzero | should updates on svn show up on wau instantly or is there a reason there's a delay? I did remember to refresh the list |
| 05:13.39 | Xinhuan | the zips are autogenerated every 20 minutes |
| 05:13.48 | Xinhuan | so they dont' show up immediately |
| 05:13.56 | bigzero | gotcha |
| 05:14.12 | Xinhuan | they are generated on the 20th, 40th and 0th min of the hour |
| 05:14.14 | Xinhuan | more or less anyway |
| 05:14.41 | bigzero | so 2 versions of zips are generated? with and without externals? |
| 05:14.46 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 05:14.59 | Xinhuan | WAU retrieves one of those, depending on with or without externals |
| 05:15.26 | Xinhuan | if you choose without ext, then wau looks at the X-Embeds and grabs the dependencies if instructed to do so (auto download dep setting) |
| 05:15.43 | bigzero | i guess that would be more efficient for files.wowace.com, but wouldn't it be better if wau would check the svn directly? |
| 05:15.49 | Xinhuan | no. |
| 05:15.53 | Xinhuan | the svn is extremely slow |
| 05:16.05 | Xinhuan | about the order of 100x slower |
| 05:16.08 | bigzero | ah |
| 05:17.02 | Bejitt | hmm looks like X-AceForum doesnt work anymore |
| 05:17.28 | Nefarion | hmm it doesn't |
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| 05:22.41 | CIA-7 | 03bigzero * r53480 10GlowFoSho/ (. GlowFoSho.toc embeds.xml): |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-7 | GlowFoSho: |
| 05:22.41 | CIA-7 | - externals should be fixed |
| 05:23.55 | Bejitt | Tekkub: what was wrong with using h3 for the methods names? |
| 05:24.08 | Bejitt | (apidocs css) |
| 05:24.15 | Tekkub | the TOC looks like ass |
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| 05:24.32 | Nefarion | shake that ass! |
| 05:24.45 | Bejitt | i mean why have === something === be hidden and then a template for the methods? |
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| 05:25.17 | Bejitt | oh! |
| 05:25.18 | Bejitt | anchors |
| 05:25.19 | Tekkub | because that makes the "heading" have all the args/returns, but it's not an <h3> so it's text isn't used in the TOC |
| 05:25.21 | Bejitt | on the TOC |
| 05:25.23 | Bejitt | gotcha |
| 05:25.28 | Bejitt | nice |
| 05:25.47 | Bejitt | why not stick that in the template too? |
| 05:26.08 | Bejitt | eh hm might get confusing i guess |
| 05:26.55 | Tekkub | I wish there was a way to pass TOC text with a heading |
| 05:27.45 | Tekkub | <h3 title="SetText">LibBlah:SetText(argthing) --> returnthing<h3> |
| 05:30.32 | CIA-7 | 03bigzero * r53481 10AutoProfitX/AutoProfitX.toc: |
| 05:30.32 | CIA-7 | AutoProfitX: |
| 05:30.32 | CIA-7 | - doh! last dep. fix. |
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| 05:36.58 | Zhinjio | ok, I'm looking for a suggestion... |
| 05:37.07 | Zhinjio | part of the GUI maintains a list of players |
| 05:37.29 | Zhinjio | the list can definitely span beyond what is a "reasonable" space for a list, so it must be scrollbable |
| 05:37.43 | Zhinjio | the list also needs to be "reactive", meaning that when I select a name in the list, it will trigger actions |
| 05:38.00 | Zhinjio | should I try to make it a scrollable list of buttons? |
| 05:38.04 | Zhinjio | or is some other mechanism easier? |
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| 05:38.36 | Zhinjio | scrollbable. heh. *scrollable. |
| 05:39.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | can omen show when a taunt is up? |
| 05:39.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | because taunt is infinite threat right? |
| 05:39.41 | Bejitt | Zhinjio: what's this list going to be attached to? |
| 05:39.54 | Bejitt | taunt is a change of threat |
| 05:40.00 | Zhinjio | at the moment, its just attached to my frame. um. I think. wait. |
| 05:40.11 | Bejitt | taunt sets the taunter's threat to the threat of the person who had aggro |
| 05:40.18 | Zhinjio | yes, the main frame. |
| 05:40.36 | Zhinjio | if I'm understanding your question correctly |
| 05:40.41 | Bejitt | yea |
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| 05:40.55 | Bejitt | afaik there's a few ways to do it.. |
| 05:41.26 | Bejitt | stuff like guild member lists use a set number of buttons and the scrollbar is used to set the starting player index for what's shown |
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| 05:42.35 | Xinhuan | that's pretty much the standard method |
| 05:43.14 | Zhinjio | I've haven't played yet with the scrollbar stuff yet, but I suspect ... hmm, you have some on_change method for the scrollbar, and when it changes, you use that to update your buttons |
| 05:43.26 | Zhinjio | or some such, eh? |
| 05:43.42 | Xinhuan | correct |
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| 05:43.52 | Xinhuan | the default UI has heaps of examples for this |
| 05:44.05 | CIA-7 | 03bigzero * r53482 10FuBar_WorldPVPFu/FuBar_WorldPVPFu.toc: |
| 05:44.05 | CIA-7 | FuBar_WorldPVPFu: |
| 05:44.05 | CIA-7 | - .toc update |
| 05:44.09 | Xinhuan | they just loop the X buttons, say 10 buttons |
| 05:44.18 | Xinhuan | then display from startindex to endindex |
| 05:44.37 | Zhinjio | alright. I'll find one. Thanks. |
| 05:45.59 | CIA-7 | 03bigzero * r53483 10FuBar_WorldPVPFu/: |
| 05:45.59 | CIA-7 | FuBar_WorldPVPFu: |
| 05:45.59 | CIA-7 | - externals set up |
| 05:49.11 | CIA-7 | 03bigzero * r53484 10GlowFoSho/GlowFoSho.toc: |
| 05:49.11 | CIA-7 | GlowFoSho: |
| 05:49.11 | CIA-7 | - dep. fix |
| 05:50.29 | Zhinjio | looks like keybindings might be a good example. |
| 05:50.40 | Zhinjio | thats a huge scrollable list of buttons/text labels. |
| 05:52.06 | Wobwork | hrm |
| 05:52.18 | Wobwork | I'm surprised there isn't http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip or something |
| 05:52.37 | Wobwork | that points to the most recent version |
| 05:53.07 | Wobwork | oh there is |
| 05:53.09 | Wobwork | don't mind me |
| 05:53.11 | bigzero | who's taking care of Omen nowadays? |
| 05:53.19 | Bejitt | ~shoot Wobwork |
| 05:53.20 | purl | ACTION shoots Wobwork in the foot with a phase pistol! |
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| 05:54.25 | bigzero | the dewdrop is not in the Omen's optionaldeps or the x-embeds lists |
| 05:54.32 | bigzero | dewdropLib* |
| 05:55.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | half prot half fury warrior off tanks in KZ |
| 05:55.36 | RaydenUnicyclist | he cant' even tank SL for me |
| 05:56.10 | Bejitt | i tanked all pre-kz with fury/prot ;( |
| 05:56.13 | Bejitt | back in the day |
| 05:56.57 | Bejitt | prot gear + DW + ppl who know how to heal = win |
| 05:57.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | 760dmg spriest, i can almost pull aggro with my dots |
| 05:57.23 | Bejitt | he's probably BTing |
| 05:57.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | BT? |
| 05:57.30 | Bejitt | bloodthirst |
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| 05:57.42 | Bejitt | which would be fine if it was 2.3 |
| 05:58.12 | Bejitt | Fury/Prot tanking is sunder+HS all the way |
| 05:58.22 | Bejitt | ...not that there's much else to sensibly do |
| 06:01.16 | Bejitt | standby enable/disable calls AceDB's OnEnable/OnDisable, correct? |
| 06:02.43 | Zhinjio | ok, I can see how this works now. Its seems an awfully cumbersome way to handle that type of UI element, but... whatever. |
| 06:03.15 | Bejitt | Zhinjio: making 100 buttons compared to 10? |
| 06:03.30 | Zhinjio | no, I did that in a loop. that part's easy. |
| 06:03.34 | Bejitt | losing 90 buttons makes up for it ;D |
| 06:03.50 | bigzero | so what's the deal with rock library? that's like ace3 and pretty much all addons should switch to that? |
| 06:03.51 | Zhinjio | just having to do updates to every button on the mousedrags is ... just ... amazing amount of work |
| 06:04.02 | Bejitt | er i mean, would you rather have 100 buttons in memory and not deal with it all or have the 10 and be cumbersome |
| 06:04.14 | Zhinjio | yeah, I see yr point, Bejitt. |
| 06:04.35 | Zhinjio | and obviously, for indeterminely sized lists, there is no other option. |
| 06:05.11 | Nargiddley | Updating the buttons on scroll isnt that much work |
| 06:05.12 | Bejitt | bigzero: Ace3 and Rock are two means to 'replace' Ace2 (that's a bit simplified) |
| 06:05.37 | Bejitt | bigzero: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Differences_in_Philosophy_between_Ace3_and_Rock |
| 06:06.00 | bigzero | sweet, thanks |
| 06:08.23 | Wobwork | ~2557/60 |
| 06:08.23 | purl | 42.616666666667 |
| 06:10.02 | Wobwork | 42 minutes to restore a table |
| 06:11.09 | bigzero | wouldn't using two different frameworks for addons go against the whole idea of a unified framework? Seems like most people will end up having both Rock and Ace3 based addons and that will end up costing pretty much twice in resources... |
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| 06:15.43 | Xinhuan | correct. |
| 06:19.01 | bigzero | sounds like rock would be much easier to update addons for since it's basically just an update of Ace2, right? |
| 06:19.27 | Xinhuan | not exactly |
| 06:20.22 | Neebler | ~rock |
| 06:20.23 | purl | i guess rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out |
| 06:20.53 | bigzero | ~ace3 |
| 06:20.54 | purl | [ace3] an addon framework for World of Warcraft to make writing addons easier. The primary difference from Ace2 is to be more interoperable with as many frameworks as possible, allowing only bits and pieces to be chosen for addons, and no longer be a one megabyte monster. |
| 06:21.17 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53485 10BankStack/ (BankStack.toc core.lua): BankStack: "/bankstackconfig verbosity 0-2" |
| 06:21.20 | bigzero | who's writting ace3? |
| 06:21.25 | ckknight | bigzero, yea, Rock is very similar in structure to Ace2 |
| 06:22.18 | bigzero | oh, ck..you're back. Are you working on omen still, along with others? |
| 06:23.02 | ckknight | I'm not working on Omen |
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| 06:23.09 | ckknight | I've worked on ThreatLib, with Antiarc, though |
| 06:23.27 | bigzero | right, I remember now |
| 06:23.47 | Neebler | "and no longer be a one megabyte monster." hahaha like thats sooo big |
| 06:24.06 | bigzero | well, anyway, Omen is missing DewdropLib from the X-Embeds and OptionalDeps |
| 06:24.20 | ckknight | Neebler, that's like almost a whole floppy disk! |
| 06:24.31 | ckknight | bigzero, I suggest telling Antiarc |
| 06:24.52 | Neebler | don't copy that floppy! *dances in mustard yellow and black clothing* |
| 06:25.09 | Neebler | go hammer go hammer go hammer! oh oh oh |
| 06:25.30 | bigzero | isn't there a purl mesage thing? I forgot how to use it |
| 06:25.35 | Neebler | mmmm ah yes the visual images that conjur from those words are endless |
| 06:25.45 | ckknight | bigzero, botmail |
| 06:26.01 | bigzero | syntax? |
| 06:27.33 | ckknight | purl, help botmail |
| 06:27.39 | ckknight | well, do it in a /msg |
| 06:28.38 | bigzero | err....that might be problematic. School's blocking IRC, so I'm using web based irc client...not sure how msg will work out :-( |
| 06:28.38 | Zhinjio | alright. my scrollframe actually has a moving scroll button now, and it looks like it has the correct "steps" in it, but my Update method isn't getting called. |
| 06:29.06 | bigzero | nvm, ignore my whining |
| 06:30.54 | Xinhuan | check the default UI examples again |
| 06:31.05 | Xinhuan | there are methods that are normally inheritted |
| 06:31.11 | Xinhuan | for those stuff |
| 06:32.15 | Zhinjio | yeah, thats what I was using as my model. Would you mind looking at http://pastey.net/76135 |
| 06:32.34 | Zhinjio | unfortunately, all the examples are XML based, and I'm using LUA for defining stuff |
| 06:33.30 | Nargiddley | that setscript is wrong |
| 06:33.48 | Zhinjio | should I make it a function instead that does that call? |
| 06:33.51 | Nargiddley | you need to set it to a function reference, not call the function there |
| 06:33.52 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 06:33.54 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 06:34.26 | Zhinjio | I was thinking that might be it. |
| 06:34.28 | Zhinjio | trying now |
| 06:35.14 | Xinhuan | if you wish to, you can stare at my addon WoWEquip to see how it does it |
| 06:35.31 | Zhinjio | *grin* ... I'll try that if this doesn't work. and thanks. |
| 06:35.36 | Xinhuan | meanwhile, i'm farming AV |
| 06:36.37 | Zhinjio | OIOMG! |
| 06:36.40 | Zhinjio | heheheee |
| 06:36.42 | Zhinjio | it works. |
| 06:36.44 | Zhinjio | you guys are awesome. |
| 06:40.50 | bigzero | botmail for Antiarc: Omen is missing DewdropLib from X-Embeds |
| 06:41.21 | bigzero | oops |
| 06:41.26 | bigzero | forgot the /msg part |
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| 06:47.27 | Bejitt | can you specify table indeces in a string.format? like... string.format("%(somekey1) %(somekey2)", sometable) |
| 06:47.39 | Bejitt | s/indeces/keys/ |
| 06:48.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | no one has made a loot list for KZ based on class have they? |
| 06:48.43 | RaydenUnicyclist | a list of all good spriest gear for example? |
| 06:49.16 | Bejitt | wowloot.com ? |
| 06:49.21 | Bejitt | i think that's the url.. |
| 06:53.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you probably mean http://wow-loot.com/ |
| 06:54.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | not that it'd be anything more than an extremely trivial effort to go through loot lists and make your own. |
| 06:54.17 | Xinhuan | www.shadowpriest.com |
| 06:56.17 | syeren | ckknight? |
| 06:56.24 | ckknight | ~asktoask |
| 06:56.25 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 06:56.39 | syeren | ;) |
| 06:56.49 | syeren | What determines where the pet frames are displayed? |
| 06:56.58 | syeren | Pet Cluster or PetFrame 1? |
| 06:57.22 | ckknight | for party? |
| 06:57.25 | ckknight | by the cluster |
| 06:58.09 | syeren | Okay, my next question then :p |
| 06:58.10 | syeren | http://fabrikate.org/hub/WoWScrnShot_103007_065526.jpg |
| 06:58.12 | syeren | Is my layout. |
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| 06:58.25 | Bejitt | i'm guessing metatables arent 'safe' to use in saved variables eh? |
| 06:58.32 | syeren | ["x"] = -419.3740921020508, |
| 06:58.34 | syeren | Is my party. |
| 06:58.40 | syeren | ["x"] = -469.1870864868164, |
| 06:58.43 | syeren | Is my party Pet. |
| 06:58.52 | syeren | How can I make them pixel perfect on the visual side? |
| 06:58.56 | ckknight | Bejitt, they just don't save |
| 06:59.19 | Bejitt | could i use a logout event to make it a regular table before the saving? |
| 06:59.29 | ckknight | don't worry about it/. |
| 06:59.33 | Bejitt | kk |
| 06:59.36 | ckknight | it doesn't save the metatable part |
| 06:59.39 | ckknight | but it does save the table part |
| 06:59.45 | Bejitt | ohhhhh |
| 06:59.52 | RaydenUnicyclist | Maiden doesn't drop anything for me |
| 07:00.07 | Bejitt | so setmetatable after variables loaded |
| 07:00.29 | Bejitt | that's handy |
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| 07:02.19 | buu | Well this is a problem. |
| 07:02.28 | buu | Is there any addon like spellbinder but allows for per character bindings? |
| 07:02.48 | buu | ckknight: Hey, since you're here, how do I remove the 'background' semi-opaque gray frame on pitbull unit frames? |
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| 07:05.42 | many | choose another texture? |
| 07:06.00 | Diao | !rating 1550 |
| 07:06.01 | Xinhuan | 1550 rating gives 402(5s), 353(3s) and 305(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 07:06.14 | buu | many: Er.. |
| 07:06.47 | buu | many: Where? |
| 07:07.29 | ckknight | buu, it's under the "Player" options, I think |
| 07:07.29 | ckknight | where "Player" is the name of the frame you're dealing with |
| 07:07.29 | ckknight | it's in there, I know it |
| 07:09.58 | many | buu: given, the pitbull config tree structure isnt intuitive for the user, but its there. ive seen it only yesterday or something |
| 07:10.34 | buu | I really can't find it, especially under 'Player' |
| 07:10.34 | many | i even think you can set the "default texture" in the uppermost topmenu point, so it gets effective on all frames. |
| 07:10.55 | buu | many: I actually find it generally intuitive, but I'm damned if I can find this option. |
| 07:10.59 | many | every frame has submenus of "icon, text, other" |
| 07:11.07 | many | i believe its under other somewhere |
| 07:11.11 | buu | Also, is there anyway to add two 'blank spaces' ? |
| 07:11.27 | buu | Aura's, Layout, Portrait, Size. |
| 07:11.32 | buu | That's under 'Other' |
| 07:12.35 | buu | I'm alsot trying to 'center' my paired health+mana bars on the portrait, similar to how the blizzard frames do it. |
| 07:12.52 | buu | I can add a blank space at the top, which is sort of there, but I need another blank space below them to center it =/ |
| 07:14.42 | many | buu: could it be that the texture can indeed only be changed global? |
| 07:15.14 | many | because in the lua file i see it under global |
| 07:15.50 | many | and that seems to be the only place in the configtree (i see) |
| 07:17.10 | many | and for the intuitiveness, i wish there was some easy way to see how all frames together would look so they could be easier pinned to what they should look |
| 07:20.22 | CIA-7 | 03hegarol * r53486 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 07:20.22 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 07:20.22 | CIA-7 | - New projectiles added |
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| 07:24.31 | Spiffy | is there a function in Crayon like GetThresholdColor except for generic colors? i.e. class colors |
| 07:25.48 | buu | many: Where do you see it in global? |
| 07:26.14 | buu | Oh! There it is. |
| 07:26.17 | buu | Intuitive =] |
| 07:26.25 | buu | Now.. I need a spell binder alternative |
| 07:27.11 | many | buu: you said it this time =) |
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| 07:31.17 | buu | many: Indeed. |
| 07:31.20 | Spiffy | better yet.. is there an easy way to colorize text in a Tablet tooltip based on standard class colors? |
| 07:31.24 | buu | many: Is there anyway to add a second spacer bar? |
| 07:32.52 | many | i dont understand what you mean by spacer. |
| 07:32.58 | many | you can certainly resize the bars |
| 07:33.14 | many | so that each of em is 50% in height compared to the portrait |
| 07:33.21 | buu | many: But I don't really want that |
| 07:33.31 | buu | I want my bar to look like: | |= |
| 07:33.36 | buu | If you see what I mean. |
| 07:33.45 | many | theres also some spacer option, but its only one per bar, so i wouldnt know how that works. |
| 07:34.01 | buu | In other words, I want a portrait on the left, then on the right, I want a blankspace, the hp bar, the energy bar, then a blankspace. |
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| 07:34.17 | many | oh, to the side, not to the top and bottom |
| 07:34.30 | many | lost there, sorry =) |
| 07:35.17 | buu | Erm. |
| 07:35.25 | buu | You know the original blizzard unit frames? |
| 07:37.15 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53487 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 07:37.15 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 07:37.15 | CIA-7 | - Added deDE Tailorng (thanks Xanatandor) |
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| 07:38.18 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53488 10AckisRecipeList/ARLLocals-deDE.lua: |
| 07:38.18 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 07:38.18 | CIA-7 | - Added deDE Alchemy obtain info (thanks Angelike) |
| 07:38.36 | buu | Look at: http://erxz.com/pb/5032 |
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| 07:40.26 | buu | And hrm. |
| 07:40.35 | buu | I need something like spellbinder that only affects one haracter. |
| 07:40.38 | buu | Character. |
| 07:41.36 | Diao | spellbinder does only affect 1 character |
| 07:41.46 | Diao | just enable character-specific bindings in the normal keybindings screen |
| 07:42.40 | buu | Wut?! |
| 07:42.42 | buu | Where?! |
| 07:44.20 | buu | Yay! |
| 07:46.30 | buu | Happiness is restored. |
| 07:46.35 | buu | Now if only I could fix this damn pitbull layout. |
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| 07:49.39 | buu | Also, how the hell do you go to page two of a wowace forum thread thingy? |
| 07:49.40 | Orionshock | morning all |
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| 07:55.56 | buu | If I could add a spacer where the cast bar is |
| 07:56.01 | buu | But I don't want a silly cast bar there =[ |
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| 08:05.46 | buu | Like, if I add a blank spacer at the top |
| 08:05.48 | buu | Then enable the cast bar |
| 08:05.51 | buu | It looks how I want |
| 08:05.54 | buu | Except when I cast =[ |
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| 08:14.36 | theoddone33 | I don't much like hellfire |
| 08:14.47 | theoddone33 | on my third character |
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| 08:43.10 | Silky | anyone got some tips on EEpanels and attaching them to ChatFrameEditBox? |
| 08:44.40 | Zhinjio | ~seen ckknight |
| 08:44.43 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 37m 14s ago, saying: 'it's in there, I know it'. |
| 08:45.36 | Lukian | Xinhuan, here? |
| 08:45.40 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:45.53 | Lukian | how do I try gear in WoWEquip on? |
| 08:46.04 | Lukian | ctrl+click doesn't seem to work |
| 08:46.05 | Xinhuan | left click on an item slot |
| 08:46.11 | Xinhuan | and select from a list |
| 08:46.25 | Xinhuan | or ctrl-click an itemlink to send it to dressing room which gets sent to wowequip |
| 08:46.28 | Xinhuan | if wowequip is open |
| 08:46.43 | Lukian | ah right, loading a saved profile seems to work :) |
| 08:46.55 | Lukian | ctrl+click support would be nice, if possible? |
| 08:47.46 | Xinhuan | err its already in? |
| 08:48.10 | Xinhuan | can't add something that already exists! |
| 08:48.24 | Lukian | when mouse is over a slot in WoWEquip? |
| 08:48.35 | Xinhuan | ok i'm lost |
| 08:48.38 | Xinhuan | what are you talking about |
| 08:48.56 | Lukian | when you have the mouse over an itemslot in WoWEquip |
| 08:49.12 | Lukian | You can't ctrl+click it to try it on (let's assume the dressing room is closed) |
| 08:49.23 | Xinhuan | you click on the little arrow on the top left corner |
| 08:49.25 | Xinhuan | to do that |
| 08:49.46 | Bejitt | you know, looking at the wow UI code... makes me wonder if they really know that they're programming in lua |
| 08:49.50 | Lukian | ah yeah :) |
| 08:49.55 | Lukian | ok that'll suffice |
| 08:50.12 | Xinhuan | i guess it wasn't too intuitive |
| 08:50.14 | Xinhuan | _~ |
| 08:50.16 | Arrowmaster | they dont, most the wow ui coders are mainly C coders i think |
| 08:50.16 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 08:50.17 | purl | :/ |
| 08:50.37 | Bejitt | semicolons abound, if-else chains on strings, etc |
| 08:50.59 | Xinhuan | semicolons are irrelevant |
| 08:51.02 | Bejitt | i know |
| 08:51.05 | Bejitt | but.. still o.O |
| 08:51.29 | Bejitt | it seems either naive or just too 'safe' |
| 08:51.40 | Xinhuan | more so from habit |
| 08:51.42 | Arrowmaster | and theres the fucknut that added the strsplit or whatever command to builtin version of lua and made it backwards from the rest of the string functions |
| 08:51.58 | Xinhuan | semicolons also make code more readable |
| 08:52.22 | Xinhuan | "if (a == b) then" is more readable than "if a == b then" |
| 08:52.28 | Xinhuan | even though the () is redundant |
| 08:53.24 | Bejitt | errrr what? |
| 08:53.28 | Bejitt | ; ? |
| 08:53.52 | Bejitt | ; at the end of every line makes it more readable? |
| 08:54.11 | Xinhuan | yes it does |
| 08:54.15 | Arrowmaster | unless you're compressing multiple lines of code into one i disagree that ;'s make it more readable |
| 08:54.34 | Xinhuan | ; marks the end of a statement, its like adding fullstops |
| 08:54.37 | Xinhuan | to english |
| 08:54.43 | Bejitt | i'm not saying semicolons are bad, it's just those plus the other things dont hint towards good language references |
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| 08:56.50 | Bejitt | at least they stuck to the same naming conventions for GLOBAL_CONSTANTS @.@ |
| 09:00.39 | Bejitt | well, i take those back.. the 'secure' implementations look pretty different |
| 09:01.46 | Diao | interesting |
| 09:02.07 | Diao | just looked at the chinese name of "The Seven" and it's actually "The Seventh Heaven" whatever that means |
| 09:02.24 | Bejitt | nighttime teen dramaqueens? |
| 09:02.32 | Diao | lol |
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| 09:11.00 | Zhinjio | ckknight doesn't know it yet, but I <3 him. |
| 09:11.30 | Zhinjio | I just ripped some code from one of his addons and it worked exactly how it hoped it would on the first try (typos aside) |
| 09:11.39 | Zhinjio | No more stretchy buttons!!! |
| 09:12.10 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53489 10Avion/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Avion - Changed UTF-8 |
| 09:13.13 | Diao | stretchy buttons o_O |
| 09:13.48 | Zhinjio | its just mostly me being completely OCD. |
| 09:14.02 | Zhinjio | the standard button texture "stretches" if you have wide or tall buttons |
| 09:14.06 | Zhinjio | and it looks like ass. |
| 09:14.15 | Zhinjio | its, of course, still perfectly functional. |
| 09:14.28 | theoddone33 | the outland starter gear set is kinda ugly :( |
| 09:14.29 | Zhinjio | but I *hated* how that texture looks when its all stretch out. |
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| 09:16.05 | ckknight__ | Zhinjio, I don't like that either |
| 09:16.28 | ckknight__ | I was careful enough to realize that stretched-out buttons look like it comes from a horse's anus |
| 09:16.39 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:17.11 | Orionshock | in aceDB, does each module gets it's own entry under "namespaces"? |
| 09:17.28 | ckknight | if it asks for it |
| 09:17.42 | ckknight | but not implicitly |
| 09:17.47 | Zhinjio | so ... I <3 you. *grin* |
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| 09:17.52 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53490 10LibAvionAddin-1.0/AvionAddin-1.0/AvionAddin-1.0.lua: |
| 09:17.53 | CIA-7 | LibAvionAddin-1.0 |
| 09:17.53 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.53 | Zhinjio | thanks for the code, so to speak. |
| 09:18.04 | Orionshock | ckknight: sense you answered, does pitbull? |
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| 09:18.18 | ckknight | no |
| 09:18.25 | ckknight | the modules ask for it |
| 09:18.30 | ckknight | explicitly |
| 09:19.22 | Orionshock | fk... this just got harder.... |
| 09:20.01 | Bejitt | here's something i've been wondering for a while: is there a different table created for every scope or just global+methods? |
| 09:22.25 | Bejitt | i'm coming from Python (throw fruit now), where it uses the latter, but lua's got all these local optimizations, so i'm thinking it's for every scope? |
| 09:22.58 | Nargiddley | the global environment is a table, global vars are entries in it. locals aren't |
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| 09:25.05 | Bejitt | well, i figured that; but where are locals is what i'm asking |
| 09:25.14 | Bejitt | just in one table |
| 09:25.16 | Bejitt | ? |
| 09:25.19 | Nargiddley | no table |
| 09:25.34 | omega_ | there is no table *scary looks* |
| 09:25.37 | Xinhuan | they are on the function stack |
| 09:25.46 | Nargiddley | or as part of a closure |
| 09:25.52 | Bejitt | ok, there we go |
| 09:30.19 | Zhinjio | now, if I was really smart, I'd add in all the anchor points and TT calls right into the customized CreateButton method and make each button a single line of code. |
| 09:30.43 | Xinhuan | why not? :) |
| 09:30.58 | Xinhuan | its pretty normal to do that |
| 09:31.01 | Xinhuan | or just make a loop |
| 09:31.18 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/76140 |
| 09:31.26 | Orionshock | anyone else think there is something wrong there? |
| 09:31.49 | Xinhuan | what am i supposed to be looking for Orionshock? |
| 09:31.57 | Orionshock | logic flaws |
| 09:32.30 | Orionshock | optimizations, a "No that's not going to work" |
| 09:33.54 | Xinhuan | can't really tell |
| 09:34.34 | Xinhuan | you can replace |
| 09:34.51 | Xinhuan | _G[v].namespaces[namespace].profiles[name] with ns_profiles.profiles[name] though |
| 09:35.55 | Orionshock | .. well actualy i dont even need to use ns_profiles even |
| 09:36.04 | Xinhuan | its faster if you use it |
| 09:36.17 | Orionshock | true |
| 09:36.34 | Xinhuan | you're only doing a "soft copy" though, not a "hard copy" |
| 09:36.54 | Orionshock | what u mean? |
| 09:37.10 | Xinhuan | meaning on line 28, you're just assigning the table reference |
| 09:37.17 | Xinhuan | to the left side |
| 09:37.35 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53491 10Avion/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Avion - Changed UTF-8 |
| 09:37.37 | Xinhuan | TGv1[k].namespaces[namespace][name] and _G[v].namespaces[namespace].profiles[name] both point to the same table |
| 09:37.50 | Arrowmaster | if you change one you change the other |
| 09:37.52 | Orionshock | yes |
| 09:37.53 | Xinhuan | so any changes to that table affect both tables - since its the same table |
| 09:38.06 | Xinhuan | not sure if you wanted to do that |
| 09:38.10 | Xinhuan | or actually make a hardcopy |
| 09:39.00 | Orionshock | TGv# is a SavedVariable... i'v tested this before and the table saves none the less |
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| 09:39.21 | Orionshock | soft or hard.. |
| 09:40.05 | Xinhuan | ya, it works, but like i said, i don't know if you wanted to make a hard or softcopy |
| 09:40.12 | Xinhuan | a user might not expect it to be a softcopy |
| 09:40.39 | Orionshock | intent is to copy the profile out of the addon |
| 09:40.40 | Xinhuan | say, he "exports" a quartz profile out, then makes changes to it in quartz, he may or may not expect the "exported copy" to change |
| 09:40.54 | Xinhuan | see what i mean? |
| 09:40.56 | Orionshock | it's an acceptable risk |
| 09:41.07 | Orionshock | risk / fuck up |
| 09:41.16 | Xinhuan | hence i don't know what you intended, or if you have any intentions on allowing that risk |
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| 09:41.36 | Xinhuan | but i'm just pointing it out such a problem exists :) |
| 09:41.41 | Orionshock | ah thank you |
| 09:42.07 | Orionshock | considering that the "end user" in this case would be a /"UI designer"/ it's ok |
| 09:42.42 | Orionshock | i'd expect them to understand that the profile is only saved when they reload the UI. |
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| 09:44.46 | Orionshock | Ominous__: the US5 folder might need to be Nuked and regened |
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| 10:00.07 | Orionshock | well fk me it worked |
| 10:00.15 | Corgan | ohhhh snap |
| 10:00.29 | Corgan | I got my greasemonkey script working |
| 10:00.30 | Corgan | http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8749/captureal9.png |
| 10:02.42 | Orionshock | aight , got the profile out... now to get it back in... |
| 10:02.44 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 10:05.57 | Bejitt | Corgan: what the :o |
| 10:06.26 | Corgan | :D |
| 10:06.31 | Corgan | sexy no? |
| 10:07.42 | Wobin | Corgan: Is that a GM script to add an extra tab to Wowhead? |
| 10:07.44 | Bejitt | what is it? |
| 10:07.53 | Corgan | yes it is. |
| 10:08.02 | Wobin | On the one hand it's cool |
| 10:08.02 | Corgan | It breaks down any item |
| 10:08.05 | Corgan | into it submats |
| 10:08.05 | Wobin | on the other, it's scary |
| 10:08.08 | Corgan | it's* |
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| 10:08.16 | Wobin | You should just suggest to wowhead to add it =P |
| 10:08.17 | Bejitt | haha |
| 10:08.37 | Corgan | Wobin, there is certain info that the script uses, that doesn't exist on the site yet |
| 10:09.04 | Corgan | but will, because the script was made |
| 10:12.10 | Orionshock | Re: Ace3 Licensing "i understand the reasons and the arguments and most of the 9yrds about why it needs a license... but saying it out loud about wow addons sounds completely asinine" |
| 10:12.22 | Thelyna | does it only show tradeskill items, Corgan? |
| 10:12.34 | Thelyna | looks like the mats list for a tankatronic hat, minus the primal nether |
| 10:13.23 | Corgan | Thelyna, it's the mats for the moonspecs, primal nether was replaced with the hardened adamantite for testing purposes |
| 10:13.51 | Grum | hehe nice |
| 10:19.11 | Wobin | Orionshock: Perhaps we should say it in the recesses of our minds, while rocking back and forth in the corner? |
| 10:21.34 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r53493 10InFlight/ (Defaults.lua InFlight.lua InFlight.toc): |
| 10:21.34 | CIA-7 | InFlight: |
| 10:21.34 | CIA-7 | - bump toc to 20200 |
| 10:21.34 | CIA-7 | - added zhTW localization |
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| 10:21.53 | baer_ | moin. |
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| 10:23.49 | Orionshock | Wobin: i said that as more of a joke :D |
| 10:24.06 | Wobin | Rather unnecessary |
| 10:24.12 | Orionshock | :P |
| 10:24.25 | Wobin | And entirely unhelpful |
| 10:24.52 | Orionshock | i know... it's removed now ... |
| 10:25.14 | Wobin | cool |
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| 10:36.46 | CIA-7 | 03damjau * r53494 10Spyglass/ (core.lua summary.lua): |
| 10:36.46 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 10:36.47 | CIA-7 | - add koKR locals |
| 10:37.04 | Bejitt | o_O |
| 10:37.27 | Bejitt | too soon >_< |
| 10:37.32 | CIA-7 | 03damjau * r53495 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: |
| 10:37.32 | CIA-7 | ItemBonusLib: |
| 10:37.32 | CIA-7 | - update koKR locals |
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| 10:46.49 | Bejitt | grah, localizer hit me during a big reorganization |
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| 10:48.01 | nevcairiel | just ignore |
| 10:49.42 | Zhinjio | lua> i = 1; [["Testing" .. i]] = "Blort"; i = 2; [["Testing" .. i]] = "Foo"; print Testing1; print Testing2 |
| 10:49.43 | cladbot | Zhinjio: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "i = 1; [["Testing" .. i]] = "Blort"; i = 2; [["Testing" .. i]] ..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '[["Testing" .. i]]' |
| 10:50.01 | Zhinjio | crapola. |
| 10:50.24 | nevcairiel | why the double [ ? |
| 10:50.46 | CIA-7 | 03damjau * r53496 10Spyglass/core.lua: |
| 10:50.46 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 10:50.46 | CIA-7 | - changed UTF-8 |
| 10:51.18 | Zhinjio | I thought it might force it to parse before making the assignment. |
| 10:51.32 | nevcairiel | nah you cant do stuff like that for local vars |
| 10:51.36 | nevcairiel | only for table keys |
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| 10:51.50 | Zhinjio | yup. that is teh suck. |
| 10:51.57 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 10:52.13 | Zhinjio | it means I probably can't make my scrollframe buttons in a loop. |
| 10:52.19 | Zhinjio | which is just lame as hell. |
| 10:53.35 | nevcairiel | stuff them in a table |
| 10:54.25 | Zhinjio | right, but CreateFrame expects the name of the button as the first (second) argument... you can't put "ListItem[i]" in that name. |
| 10:54.43 | Zhinjio | it won't create the button |
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| 10:57.08 | Zhinjio | I guess I don't understand how CreateFrame scopes out stuff. |
| 10:57.11 | Orionshock | isn't the name of a frame a string? |
| 10:57.18 | Zhinjio | I mean, you have..., for example: |
| 10:57.23 | Orionshock | "RootName"..i |
| 10:57.38 | Zhinjio | newFrame = CreateFrame( "Button", "newFrame", parentFrame ) |
| 10:57.48 | Bejitt | "Testing" .. i <-- should work |
| 10:57.53 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 10:57.56 | Bejitt | just dont put the [[]] |
| 10:57.57 | Orionshock | newFrame = CreateFrame( "Button", "newFrame"..i, parentFrame ) |
| 10:58.02 | Zhinjio | well... but you just said ... oh. |
| 10:58.08 | Bejitt | that's for [[Strings like this one without quotes]] |
| 10:58.21 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 10:58.30 | Bejitt | or... [[Some\path\with\the\backslash]] |
| 10:59.28 | Orionshock | or in a for loop: |
| 10:59.50 | CIA-7 | 03bejitt * r53497 10Spyglass/ (Spyglass.toc buttons.lua core.lua summary.lua): |
| 10:59.50 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 10:59.50 | CIA-7 | - Reorganized for increased sanity |
| 11:00.06 | Orionshock | for i,n do; t[i] = CreateFrame("Button", "rootName"..i, parentFrame) |
| 11:00.08 | Orionshock | end |
| 11:03.34 | Xinhuan | if you pass a string in argument 2 of CreateFrame(), the created frame is placed in _G global scope with that name |
| 11:03.49 | Xinhuan | if you give that argument #2 a nil value, then it doesn't do that |
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| 11:05.58 | Zhinjio | ok, got it to work. |
| 11:06.10 | Zhinjio | I think I do want it in the global context. |
| 11:06.31 | Zhinjio | I need it to be available to other modules/files |
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| 11:06.43 | Xinhuan | it doesn't necessarily have to be |
| 11:06.46 | Zhinjio | unless I'm misunderstanding scope contexts completely |
| 11:06.53 | Xinhuan | if you assigned it to a table, say t[i] = createframe() |
| 11:07.04 | Xinhuan | you could have myaddon.frames = t |
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| 11:07.11 | Xinhuan | and you would be able to refer to those frames by usng |
| 11:07.13 | Xinhuan | using |
| 11:07.19 | Xinhuan | myaddon.frames[1] |
| 11:07.20 | Xinhuan | etc |
| 11:07.24 | Zhinjio | *nod* |
| 11:07.37 | Xinhuan | but it isn't really that much difference from using global names |
| 11:07.38 | Zhinjio | since the 'myaddon' part is inherently part of the global context. I gotcha. |
| 11:07.42 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 11:07.56 | Xinhuan | since accessing them globally is really just _G["newFrame1"] |
| 11:07.57 | Xinhuan | etc |
| 11:08.15 | Zhinjio | I did a loop which created Temp_ListItem = CreateFrame( "BUtton", "ListItem" .. i, parentFrame ) |
| 11:08.20 | Xinhuan | if you localize a copy of _G, its as fast as the other one |
| 11:08.28 | Zhinjio | and then at the bottom, did ListItem[i] = Temp_ListItem |
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| 11:08.43 | Zhinjio | and that worked just fine. |
| 11:09.01 | Xinhuan | just means you have 2 ways to reference that frame |
| 11:10.25 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: what wrong wtih doing ListItem[i] = CreateFrame("Button", "ListItem"..i, parentFrame) in the loop? |
| 11:11.04 | Orionshock | other than the fact that they have the same name... |
| 11:11.48 | Xinhuan | Orionshock, its faster to use a temp variable to assign other things about that frame ;p |
| 11:12.00 | Orionshock | true |
| 11:12.04 | Xinhuan | instead of ListItem[i]:SetPoint() :SetHeight() etc etc |
| 11:12.17 | Orionshock | ya if ur going to be doing that then yes |
| 11:12.27 | Xinhuan | doesn't really matter, probably on the order of like a few milliseconds difference |
| 11:12.28 | Zhinjio | um. now that I have the uniqueness there in the second argument... there's really no reason. |
| 11:12.34 | Orionshock | god why does this remind me of reading bblizard code? |
| 11:13.17 | Orionshock | bliz love to loop frame settings w/ a getglobal() in it ... |
| 11:13.47 | Zhinjio | well, all the "SetPoint", etc calls are actually abstracted.... I'm not using CreateFrame, but instead SKG_CreateButton ... and all my settings are done there. so ... yeah, I don't need the temp variable anymore. |
| 11:15.13 | Orionshock | Elkano.... |
| 11:15.16 | Orionshock | ur not there :P |
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| 11:16.09 | Arcaia | anyone here have a resto/elemental shaman on a US PVP server that they don |
| 11:16.14 | Arcaia | don't play often? |
| 11:16.38 | Xinhuan | probably but there is no reason for them to share user/pass ;p |
| 11:17.15 | Arcaia | well it's more about me seeing if they'd want to trade accounts, not just borrow their account ;P |
| 11:17.34 | Xinhuan | not recommending breaking TOS in this channel |
| 11:17.36 | kebinusan | Anyone use AuldLangSyne |
| 11:17.51 | Orionshock | sortof kebinusan |
| 11:18.01 | kebinusan | well more to the point is anyone else having issues with it locking out the social panel in combat |
| 11:18.08 | kebinusan | I cant switch people in raid groups |
| 11:18.13 | kebinusan | If I have it loaded |
| 11:18.20 | Xinhuan | kebinusan: known issue, disable the whole addon |
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| 11:18.39 | Xinhuan | been asked like 1000 times this month lol |
| 11:18.46 | kebinusan | yeah, sounds like what I'll have to do |
| 11:18.57 | kebinusan | sucks, I kinda liked it |
| 11:19.25 | Orionshock | kebinusan: why are you changing groups in combat? |
| 11:19.45 | kebinusan | because Im an OCD raid lead who loves giving his rogues multiple heroisms |
| 11:19.54 | Orionshock | ... |
| 11:20.13 | Arcaia | kebinusan:: <3 |
| 11:20.36 | Orionshock | kebinusan: LotP > hero |
| 11:20.51 | Orionshock | ... then again Horde > Alliance ... but let's not go there |
| 11:21.02 | Orionshock | :D |
| 11:21.32 | kebinusan | enh shaman 2 rogues warrior and feral druid, then sub out the warrior for extra heroisms so he doesnt get himself killed |
| 11:22.27 | kebinusan | or 3 rogues if the druid is tanking |
| 11:23.08 | kebinusan | but eh, for combat rogues lotp isnt as good because of the extra haste and combat potency from what I understand |
| 11:23.56 | Xinhuan | lotp? |
| 11:24.31 | Orionshock | wait, who dosn't like 5% to crit? |
| 11:24.39 | Orionshock | flat, stacks with everything |
| 11:24.49 | Orionshock | and hey, it even heals when u do crit |
| 11:24.52 | Arcaia | lotp is tastey, and as far as im concerned -> take rotate the enhancement shaman for the extra heroism. |
| 11:24.57 | Orionshock | not seeing a down side |
| 11:25.03 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: Leader of the Pack |
| 11:25.15 | Xinhuan | you can get BOTH heroism and LOTP then ;p |
| 11:25.50 | kebinusan | yeah normally do just swap shaman for a second, the enh shaman gets back before anyone misses the totems |
| 11:25.50 | Bejitt | enhance + feral + 2xrogue + 1xFury = win |
| 11:26.07 | starlon | that's my kinda group |
| 11:26.43 | Bejitt | used to get that, but then our enhance decided to never sign on again |
| 11:27.04 | Arcaia | yea, makes me sad i always get grouped with like... 2 rogues an Arms War and a healer =( |
| 11:27.12 | kebinusan | yeah we go through shaman pretty quickly for some reason |
| 11:27.14 | Bejitt | healer = shaman? |
| 11:27.17 | Arcaia | no |
| 11:27.23 | Arcaia | healer = paladin/priest/druid |
| 11:27.30 | Bejitt | hell, i'd take a resto shaman just for non-buffed WFT |
| 11:27.32 | Bejitt | ewww |
| 11:27.40 | Bejitt | wtf was your RL thinking? |
| 11:27.49 | Arcaia | and when we do have a shaman healer, they go in the caster group for the woa totem |
| 11:27.52 | Bejitt | put that healer in the second caster group ;o |
| 11:27.59 | Bejitt | yea |
| 11:28.10 | kebinusan | our casters only get woa if the melee have windfury, one must have priorities |
| 11:28.17 | Bejitt | haha |
| 11:28.42 | Arcaia | we are ally raiders though >.> not that many shaman, and those that are shaman suck at being shaman |
| 11:28.45 | Bejitt | our casters only get woa b/c the resto shaman whines when she doesnt get the spriest |
| 11:29.02 | kebinusan | wth, your shaman needs a shadow priest? |
| 11:29.08 | Bejitt | exactly |
| 11:29.10 | kebinusan | ride the mana tide baby |
| 11:29.15 | Arcaia | makes me proud to be horde at heart... and its also why im trying to get rid of my rogue to either A > Be shaman on horde, or B > get more shaman in my guild. |
| 11:29.15 | Bejitt | exxxxactly |
| 11:29.39 | Bejitt | she gets it, and still can barely beat the druid tanks sometimes ...... |
| 11:29.46 | Bejitt | (that was an exaggeration, but still) |
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| 11:30.19 | kebinusan | shaman healing is gravy.. target melee person, cast chain heal, repeat till boss dead |
| 11:30.32 | Bejitt | the whole chain healing the MT (off on his lonesome) is working out great for her |
| 11:31.16 | kebinusan | chain healing the mt doesnt make alot of sesnse either since tanks normally get overhealed alot, I begin to see your problems |
| 11:31.35 | Bejitt | not only that.. but it doesnt chain..!! |
| 11:31.45 | Bejitt | gahh |
| 11:32.12 | Bejitt | this is one of those.. you wanna tell her, but she kinda just somehow managed to become GM? yeahhhh |
| 11:32.18 | Bejitt | i'm stopping there |
| 11:32.23 | kebinusan | haha |
| 11:33.09 | Arcaia | reform the guild under new leadership ;P |
| 11:33.27 | Bejitt | that's what this guild -is- :( |
| 11:33.28 | Arcaia | offer her an honorary officer position, say it was to clear out the inactives/bad-seeds |
| 11:33.37 | kebinusan | we've been stuck on kael for nearly a month now |
| 11:33.49 | kebinusan | kinda annoying |
| 11:34.13 | Xinhuan | skip ssc for a week |
| 11:34.14 | Arcaia | i dont raid enough for anything past kara/gruul/mag/lurker/vr/easybossesoflameness |
| 11:34.26 | Xinhuan | you wont kill kael otherwise unless you can 1-day clear ssc |
| 11:34.35 | Arcaia | comes down to... -life- or -wow- and life usually wins the need roll. |
| 11:39.06 | Bejitt | psh kael, you see that some chinese guild cleared BT (this being 7 weeks since chinese BC release) |
| 11:44.08 | CIA-7 | 03bejitt * r53498 10Spyglass/ (buttons.lua core.lua summary.lua): |
| 11:44.08 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 11:44.08 | CIA-7 | - Cleaning up |
| 11:44.08 | CIA-7 | - Making sure that version data is updated when possible |
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| 11:55.39 | Elkano | sag_ich_nicht: ping? |
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| 12:04.38 | Grum | <Xinhuan> you wont kill kael otherwise unless you can 1-day clear ssc <-- how do you figure that Xin? |
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| 12:04.59 | Xinhuan | because a typical guild would take 1 night to kill the 3 bosses to clear to kael |
| 12:05.03 | Xinhuan | another 2 nights to clear ssc |
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| 12:05.15 | Xinhuan | that leaves 2 nights on kael assuming said guild raids 5 nights a week |
| 12:05.31 | Xinhuan | you need about 15 hours on avg to learn kael - not including the trash clearing to him |
| 12:05.40 | Xinhuan | since each phase is unique |
| 12:05.55 | cncfanatics | bah, cyCircled broke again :( |
| 12:05.59 | Grum | we just pick either instance |
| 12:06.23 | Grum | atm vashj but when we get to down her we'll just do 1 night in ssc or none at all |
| 12:07.40 | Grum | we're not doing TK atm unless we have a suboptimal group for Vashj (then we go clear the first 3 bosses) |
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| 12:24.18 | cncfanatics | somebody make sure I didnt break anything |
| 12:24.43 | Orionshock | line 45, forgot a " at the end |
| 12:24.54 | CIA-7 | 03zhinjio * r53500 10/branches/SKG/ (9 files): |
| 12:24.54 | CIA-7 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 12:24.54 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.54 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.54 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.16 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: no |
| 12:25.26 | Orionshock | LOL |
| 12:25.35 | Orionshock | did u actually look? |
| 12:25.38 | Zhinjio | cncfanatics, thanks for fixing the bongos thing. |
| 12:25.48 | Zhinjio | that was completley annoying. |
| 12:26.04 | Zhinjio | paging bug, I mean |
| 12:26.29 | cncfanatics | that wasn't me |
| 12:26.34 | cncfanatics | that was stormfx |
| 12:26.39 | cncfanatics | I just fixed a bug in FlexBar2 there :p |
| 12:26.41 | Zhinjio | oh, true. |
| 12:26.52 | Zhinjio | blah. time for sleep. |
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| 12:43.53 | Lukian | who's Jerry in here? |
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| 12:47.32 | JoshBorke | jerry |
| 12:50.23 | Lukian | cheers :) |
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| 12:51.36 | JoshBorke | and i'm not just being a jerk :-) |
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| 12:55.05 | Chompers | hey ckk |
| 12:56.30 | Chompers | :O |
| 12:56.42 | Chompers | FISKERLOL |
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| 12:58.37 | Chompers | lecture time, bbl |
| 12:58.49 | Silky | bl |
| 13:08.06 | cncfanatics | how would one check if two tables contain the same stuff ? |
| 13:08.15 | cncfanatics | their reference doesnt have to be the same, just their content |
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| 13:09.16 | cncfanatics | someone? |
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| 13:11.47 | JoshBorke | iterate over all the keys |
| 13:12.06 | cncfanatics | I'd have to iterate over all keys of the first table, then over all keys of the second, thats a pain ;:( |
| 13:12.45 | JoshBorke | unless the keys are all strings/numbers you'll have an even harder time on the tables/func that are key or value :-D |
| 13:12.59 | cncfanatics | its all strings |
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| 13:14.12 | cncfanatics | trying to cache some statebutton stuff |
| 13:14.15 | cncfanatics | its generated per button atm |
| 13:14.19 | cncfanatics | which is a huge pain with lots of buttons |
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| 13:14.59 | JoshBorke | i can imagine |
| 13:15.36 | cncfanatics | 120 buttons on screen = lag on regenerating big time |
| 13:15.49 | cncfanatics | even lags very slightly with 25 on screen -.- |
| 13:16.10 | JoshBorke | try doing it in a coroutine? |
| 13:16.11 | JoshBorke | bye bye |
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| 13:48.38 | CIA-7 | - added frame background image |
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| 13:57.56 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r53504 10CatPoints/ (CatDPS.lua CatDPSTest.lua): |
| 13:57.56 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 13:57.56 | CIA-7 | - Added in some more derived stats for the new model |
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| 14:02.35 | cncfanatics | Fisker-- , this ain't the moment, shut up |
| 14:02.41 | cncfanatics | tracking some shitty anoying fucking shit |
| 14:04.05 | nevcairiel | lets all annoy cncfanatics! |
| 14:05.25 | Fisker-- | I agree |
| 14:05.54 | Fisker-- | What do you hate most about tracking shitty annoying fucking shit? |
| 14:05.56 | Fisker-- | O_o |
| 14:08.23 | cncfanatics | die |
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| 14:08.30 | cncfanatics | I hate this kind of bugs |
| 14:08.39 | cncfanatics | the UI lags like shit, but I got no idea where the lag comes from |
| 14:09.41 | nevcairiel | run a profiler |
| 14:09.45 | nevcairiel | and look for spikes |
| 14:09.49 | cncfanatics | I did |
| 14:09.56 | cncfanatics | I know its from my FB2_Attributes module |
| 14:09.59 | cncfanatics | and I'm wondering why |
| 14:10.28 | cncfanatics | its not suposed to do anything when buttons are clicked (thats when the lag occurs) |
| 14:12.31 | ramoz | maybe your huge optimization wasnt su huge afterall |
| 14:12.36 | ramoz | :P |
| 14:12.38 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 14:12.49 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r53505 10CatPoints/CatPoints.lua: |
| 14:12.49 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 14:12.49 | CIA-7 | - Skip ilink building if we get some strange values. |
| 14:12.58 | cncfanatics | it lags since then, but I changed nothing to click behaviour, thats the shit thing :p |
| 14:15.43 | cncfanatics | and now it stopped lagging without me changing shit ? |
| 14:15.44 | cncfanatics | wtf ? |
| 14:15.51 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 14:16.54 | nevcairiel | it'll be back |
| 14:17.26 | cncfanatics | I so hate this kind of bugs lol :p |
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| 14:17.38 | cncfanatics | if at least it triggered a stack overflow it'd be easy to track -.- but it doesn't |
| 14:18.15 | nevcairiel | your code is way too complex :p |
| 14:18.56 | cncfanatics | don't see how I'd do what it does in a less complex way |
| 14:19.53 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53506 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: don't have 2 activator functions in a single module; bad bad bad |
| 14:19.55 | cncfanatics | there you go |
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| 14:21.57 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: your code is way too complex, you have read my code ? :o |
| 14:22.39 | nevcairiel | not exactly, but the nature of your addon doesnt allow simple code :p |
| 14:24.51 | cncfanatics | true enough :) |
| 14:24.57 | cncfanatics | btw |
| 14:24.58 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel |
| 14:25.07 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r53507 10Bartender4/: Bartender4: clean up branches |
| 14:25.11 | cncfanatics | do you know if when changing the statebutton attribute, is everything rechecked by blizz against the new states ? |
| 14:25.21 | nevcairiel | i doubt it |
| 14:25.29 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: Uh.. Anything exciting planned for bartender4? |
| 14:26.03 | Zexeh | I'm watching a pvp video here, where this mod shows which classes the opponents are, as soon as sighted. Appears as you can target the players from this tablet as well, anyone know what mod I'm talking about? |
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| 14:26.49 | cncfanatics | Bartender4 ? :o why ? |
| 14:27.59 | CIA-7 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r53508 10Bartender4/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Bartender4: initial commit of empty files |
| 14:28.04 | haste | "because trunk isn't for active developement" |
| 14:28.23 | cncfanatics | could have branched bt3 then |
| 14:28.27 | cncfanatics | I want to know why the major rev goes up |
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| 14:28.37 | [Ammo] | why did flexbar major rev go up? |
| 14:28.41 | haste | because 4 > 3 ! |
| 14:28.41 | [Ammo] | or why did the pig fly? |
| 14:28.47 | haste | it has to be better |
| 14:28.47 | nevcairiel | pigs dont fly |
| 14:28.53 | nevcairiel | only if you throw them |
| 14:29.20 | cncfanatics | [Ammo], flexbar's major rev went up cuz it was a total rewrite ? :p |
| 14:29.24 | cncfanatics | now nevcairiel, tell ush |
| 14:29.30 | [Ammo] | guess what nevc is doing? |
| 14:29.35 | haste | rewrites don't solve issues! D; |
| 14:29.49 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 14:29.54 | [Ammo] | in this case it probably will |
| 14:30.01 | haste | http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html :D |
| 14:30.19 | cncfanatics | so nevcairiel, now explain us why ? :o |
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| 14:30.39 | nevcairiel | because i dont change the framework of my addons without upping the rev |
| 14:31.13 | haste | and the higher the major rev is, the better! |
| 14:31.38 | nevcairiel | if i reach 10, i need to look for a new name |
| 14:31.47 | cncfanatics | ah, Ace3 |
| 14:32.20 | haste | nevcairiel: gogo barkeeper! |
| 14:32.31 | cncfanatics | btw, how is old savedvars handling in Ace3 ? |
| 14:32.36 | cncfanatics | will it take Rock/Ace2 savedvars ? |
| 14:33.04 | nevcairiel | no idea what rock does with them |
| 14:33.12 | [Ammo] | not by defaulty |
| 14:33.23 | nevcairiel | but there probably will be a compat layer addon authors can include that will convert the SV |
| 14:33.33 | nevcairiel | Ace2->Ace3 |
| 14:33.41 | nevcairiel | no going back, once it did its thing |
| 14:33.52 | cncfanatics | pretty sure ROck doesnt change jack to the savedvars from Ace2 |
| 14:34.04 | haste | but rock is basically ace2 |
| 14:34.09 | haste | so that's no wonder :D |
| 14:34.11 | cncfanatics | Rock is a slightly better Ace2 |
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| 14:35.13 | cncfanatics | which is why I'm using it :p |
| 14:36.37 | cncfanatics | so, Ace3 is pretty much rdy then if u start using it in branches ? |
| 14:36.59 | nevcairiel | we do find bugs by using it |
| 14:37.18 | nevcairiel | well, most of the important once have been found by ag in his agUF Ace3 branch |
| 14:37.24 | cncfanatics | what was the bug ? |
| 14:37.37 | nevcairiel | s/once/ones/ |
| 14:38.04 | nevcairiel | some mix up in the database lib |
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| 14:40.37 | Pkekyo | wtb a new [Left Knee] plx |
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| 14:51.45 | tinyboom | Pkekyo: we can trade, you can have my [back] and I get your [left knee] :p |
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| 14:52.15 | nevcairiel | wonder how you live with two backs but no left knee |
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| 14:52.40 | nevcairiel | or more importantly, the other way around |
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| 14:53.19 | LAG|Domo | Is there a way to change Fubar font without the aid of clearfont or something |
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| 14:56.36 | LAG|Domo | If not, that's quite the oversight imo |
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| 15:01.26 | dylanm | Uh it has a menu for font selection I believe... but the choices come from sharedmedia most likely and thus primarily from clearfont. |
| 15:01.28 | haste | you can edit the source |
| 15:01.34 | haste | everything is possible then |
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| 15:01.41 | dylanm | haste is on the money |
| 15:02.18 | durcyn | fubar 3 doesn't mix in SML, afaict |
| 15:02.36 | dylanm | I haven't used FuBar in forever :-/ |
| 15:03.06 | dylanm | Hmm... and no it does not. |
| 15:03.10 | dylanm | How things change. |
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| 15:04.54 | dylanm | Or maybe they haven't changed at all... maybe I'm thinking of texture selection. I've never wanted anything but one font for everything :-/ |
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| 15:06.14 | durcyn | so copy your desired font to Fonts\ ARIALN, FRIZQT__, MORPHEUS, and SKURRI |
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| 15:09.04 | dylanm | Or if you look in LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua there's a :SetFontObject that could be changed |
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| 15:11.57 | LAG|Domo | Aye |
| 15:12.17 | LAG|Domo | Still think it's an oversight that you can't change font in the Rock option menu |
| 15:12.27 | LAG|Domo | Practically every ace mod lets you select font these days |
| 15:13.06 | Pkekyo | tinyboom: my back is fuckedup as well, just not as much as my knee...geif new both tbh! |
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| 15:14.58 | dylanm | To be honest it makes me crazy-happy when an addon uses the default font because then I don't have to use ClearFont. |
| 15:15.50 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 15:16.54 | dylanm | BUT THEN I USE IT ANYWAY BECAUSE KIRKBURN IS SUCH A GREAT GUY |
| 15:17.01 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 15:17.50 | Cryect | well you could hope all your addons use SML for fotns then force a global font in SML |
| 15:21.19 | CIA-7 | 03damjau * r53509 10Spyglass/core.lua: |
| 15:21.19 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 15:21.20 | CIA-7 | - update koKR locals |
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| 15:26.19 | sb | yay, empty files! |
| 15:36.35 | Paradox | what's spyglass do? |
| 15:37.20 | Paradox | oh :( |
| 15:37.31 | Paradox | thought it was something like cartographers foglight |
| 15:39.01 | LAG|Domo | I'm looking for an addon that shows Combo Points as a bar |
| 15:39.12 | LAG|Domo | Pitbull really has far too limited options concerning combo points |
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| 15:39.30 | LAG|Domo | all you can do is show a teeny tiny counter, you can't even resize it |
| 15:39.43 | SunTsu | LAG|Domo: For rogues Cutup does that |
| 15:40.12 | LAG|Domo | I'm a druid, does Cutup just show energy/cp or also SnD? |
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| 15:40.47 | SunTsu | LAG|Domo: SnD? |
| 15:41.04 | Cryect | slice and dice |
| 15:41.08 | LAG|Domo | Slice and Dice |
| 15:41.50 | SunTsu | LAG|Domo: I like to use ArcHUD2, there you have a very big energy bar and the combo points as text in the middle of the screen |
| 15:41.56 | LAG|Domo | Justr checking the wiki, it's a rogue package really |
| 15:42.04 | LAG|Domo | Yeah that's my problem basically |
| 15:42.08 | LAG|Domo | I always used ArcHUD2 as well |
| 15:42.23 | LAG|Domo | And I loved it, but I redid my entire UI and there's really no place for a HUD in there, so am trying to find an alternative |
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| 15:42.27 | SunTsu | LAG|Domo: Yes, it is, that's why I said "for rogues" ;) |
| 15:42.57 | LAG|Domo | Basically I just need a lightweight combo point bar, I wonder if anyone ever bothered creating one |
| 15:43.01 | SunTsu | LAG|Domo: Hm, the I don't know. I use ARC and Pitbull myself |
| 15:44.24 | Kain___ | scorch is stronger as a 33/28 build than 10/48/3 right? i was just messign around... scorch spam w/ the cast queue in 10/48/3 was around 1000 DPS on full mana burn... on the live game it's closet to 780... |
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| 15:46.12 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53510 10FlexBar2/ (Attributes/Attributes.lua Utility.lua): FlexBar2: Further optimization to statebutton generation |
| 15:50.41 | Kemayo | kebinusan / Xinhuan: You don't have to disable the whole of AuldLangSyne, just the "Panel" module. |
| 15:51.37 | LAG|Domo | What I would love |
| 15:51.43 | LAG|Domo | is an additional bar option in Pitbull |
| 15:51.49 | LAG|Domo | to show below the Power Bar, for example |
| 15:51.57 | LAG|Domo | That fills up as you gain combo points |
| 15:51.58 | Xinhuan | i suggest that you include a note somewhere in the addon that the "Panel" module taints the raid tab |
| 15:52.10 | Xinhuan | and that if users have issues with it, they should disable it |
| 15:52.35 | Kemayo | Yeah, it's a thing I've been meaning to fix, but haven't been in a raid since it got reported. |
| 15:52.48 | Xinhuan | p.s. go AV |
| 15:52.52 | Xinhuan | or WSG |
| 15:52.54 | Xinhuan | or AB |
| 15:52.59 | Xinhuan | automatic raid |
| 15:53.21 | Xinhuan | or make a 2-man raid and let lvl 2 boars autoattack you |
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| 16:02.01 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53511 10AuldLangSyne/ (9 files in 8 dirs): |
| 16:02.01 | CIA-7 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 16:02.01 | CIA-7 | -Set Panel to be disabled by default until I can fix the tainting. |
| 16:02.01 | CIA-7 | -All the tocs for disembedded modules should be lod. |
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| 16:05.58 | CIA-7 | 03rabbit * r53512 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/ (5 files): FuBar_DurabilityFu: If auto-repair is turned off, you'll get a staticpopup at repair vendors now, also removed all the code that repaired inventory items, since RepairAllItems() repairs inventory as well now. |
| 16:06.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan |
| 16:07.12 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 16:07.13 | sag_ich_nicht | tell Elkano to stop pinging me, i'm not here when he |
| 16:07.16 | sag_ich_nicht | 's here anyway |
| 16:07.16 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 16:07.25 | Xinhuan | botmail him |
| 16:07.26 | Xinhuan | :) |
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| 16:11.55 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: will do |
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| 16:18.12 | silentium | I think I once read about an addon that automatically loads addons in specific situations, like when joining a raid, can someone refresh my memory on what addon that was? and is it also possible to unload other addons in such situations, for example to disable addons that affect your frame rate and that arent needed while raiding? |
| 16:19.18 | Aeyan | AddonLoader, I believe |
| 16:19.21 | nevcairiel | you cannot unload addons without reload ui |
| 16:19.25 | Aeyan | But no, you can't unload addons |
| 16:20.09 | Xuerian | There's been several addons to do that.. ForkLift, SomethingGnome, and now the latest slightly seriously named AddonLoader |
| 16:20.25 | nevcairiel | it was ForkliftGnome! |
| 16:20.37 | Zicon | I like gnomes. |
| 16:20.39 | silentium | hmkay, a reloadUI might be acceptable in such situations, thank you all |
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| 16:22.29 | pb_ee1 | Heya |
| 16:22.43 | pb_ee1 | I was wondering, who is the host of Wowace.com? |
| 16:23.01 | Xuerian | Kaelten: . |
| 16:23.11 | Kaelten | ? |
| 16:23.13 | Xuerian | er |
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| 16:23.20 | Xuerian | automaticcolon |
| 16:23.36 | Xuerian | pb_ee1: Kaelten is :p |
| 16:23.44 | pb_ee1 | His own server? :p |
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| 16:24.04 | Kaelten | we'll we're hosting off of two servers atm, in new jersey |
| 16:24.26 | nevcairiel | does the physical location matter ? :D |
| 16:24.50 | pb_ee1 | how do you manage to have so much bandwidth then? |
| 16:25.11 | pb_ee1 | do you have a professionnal internet provider? |
| 16:26.01 | nevcairiel | colocated, afaik |
| 16:26.14 | pb_ee1 | ho |
| 16:26.59 | Kaelten | ya, between sponsership from curse and the ads we pay for real servers in a real datacenter |
| 16:28.17 | LAG|Domo | ckknight wrote pitbull, right? |
| 16:29.06 | dylanm | LAG|Domo: Yes... |
| 16:29.29 | LAG|Domo | Just checking ^^ |
| 16:30.03 | dylanm | pb_ee1: l2traceroute :D |
| 16:30.20 | pb_ee1 | thanks for the info, Kael |
| 16:30.46 | Wilbur | ckknight is my new hero. |
| 16:30.54 | Stanzilla | lawl |
| 16:31.00 | CIA-7 | 03deccard * r53513 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 16:31.00 | CIA-7 | MiniChat: |
| 16:31.00 | CIA-7 | - options are now saved per character |
| 16:31.01 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53514 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Remove debugging messages :) |
| 16:31.56 | CIA-7 | 03saroz * r53515 10SCT_Cooldowns/Core.lua: SCT_Cooldowns: We don't like load messages |
| 16:32.19 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53516 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Really Remove debugging messages :) |
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| 16:36.18 | CIA-7 | 03trasher * r53517 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 16:36.18 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 16:36.18 | CIA-7 | - fix typo (french) |
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| 16:46.42 | buu | So anyway, pitbull. |
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| 16:47.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | pitbull |
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| 16:50.02 | Chompers | bullpit |
| 16:50.19 | Hjalte | dog |
| 16:50.29 | buu | I need two add two blank spacers |
| 16:50.32 | Chompers | woof |
| 16:50.40 | buu | One a the 'top' and one at the 'bottom' where the castbar is normally. |
| 16:51.00 | dylanm | Why? |
| 16:51.11 | buu | I'm trying to center the health/mana bars. |
| 16:51.23 | dylanm | I ask because if these are just glorified borders then really an eePanel would do fine. |
| 16:51.32 | buu | In other words, if you assume the portrait is 4 columns high I want: |
| 16:51.33 | buu | blank |
| 16:51.34 | buu | health |
| 16:51.35 | buu | mana |
| 16:51.38 | buu | blank |
| 16:51.42 | dylanm | Oh. I see. |
| 16:51.44 | buu | If you'll forgive the spam. |
| 16:52.03 | dylanm | You may be better served using a separate addon for the portraits? |
| 16:52.23 | buu | dylanm: If I add a blank spacer to the 'top', and turn on 'castbar', it looks as I desire, but then I have a ugly castbar showing up =[ |
| 16:52.42 | buu | dylanm: What would you suggest? |
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| 16:54.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | ok |
| 16:54.10 | dylanm | Just use Pitbull for the bars and a portrait addon for the portraits... I forget what everyone uses. That savantido guy uses Zmoddb/zmodelcitizen iirc. |
| 16:54.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | i have something i want to discuss |
| 16:54.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | your guild has 10 people who run through KZ |
| 16:54.38 | RaydenUnicyclist | it makes sense to give loot to people for whom it will be the biggest upgrade right? |
| 16:54.52 | Cryect | depends |
| 16:54.58 | dylanm | Depends on your guild rules, certainly. |
| 16:55.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | if one person will recieve a small benefit from new gear and someone else will get a big benefit, then it makes sense to min-max it |
| 16:55.12 | Hjalte | RaydenUnicyclist: Give loot to the lazy, you mean? ... |
| 16:55.14 | Cryect | You also want to consider how long a player has been in the guild, how hardcore they are about raiding, etc |
| 16:55.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | BUT |
| 16:55.19 | dylanm | Do you use a DKP system? |
| 16:55.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | that penalizes people who worked hard to get their gear |
| 16:55.21 | pastamancer | I'm sure there's plenty of people who feel that time invested = loot rewarded |
| 16:55.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | :( |
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| 16:55.27 | Chompers | or just roll for it |
| 16:55.31 | Cryect | the people with the worst gear often aren't the ones who would make the most use of it |
| 16:55.32 | dylanm | Or just... master looter kinda thing? |
| 16:55.34 | Kemayo | Depends. I mean, main specs before off specs, even if it's a much bigger upgrade for the off spec. |
| 16:55.35 | Chompers | its a 10 man instance, do it again next week |
| 16:55.52 | Hjalte | RaydenUnicyclist: Imo just use rolling, with priority for eg MT. |
| 16:56.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | i work hard to get the lower city mace and then this drops http://youtube.com/watch?v=HYtro7PnBA8 should i let the warlock have it because i already have the mace? |
| 16:56.38 | RaydenUnicyclist | Kemayo how do you define off spec? |
| 16:56.38 | dylanm | That's a tiny car video |
| 16:56.49 | pastamancer | I was expecting rick astley |
| 16:57.23 | dylanm | Kemayo that seems like a tough thing to define... I mean at the high end really _almost_ every tree is pretty useful. |
| 16:57.44 | RaydenUnicyclist | shadow priest is off spec, but i'd say i'm as important as any warlock or mage |
| 16:58.01 | Cryect | When someone says Offspec I assume they mean a spec you don't raid with |
| 16:58.04 | RaydenUnicyclist | also do druids have an off spec? |
| 16:58.12 | pastamancer | I think what he means is that a resto shaman should have prio on healing gear over a shadow priest |
| 16:58.16 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: If you're a resto druid. |
| 16:58.22 | dylanm | Balancelol |
| 16:58.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
| 16:58.25 | Kemayo | RaydenUnicyclist: I mean roles. So a shadow priest doesn't get priority on a healing mace, even if it would be a bigger upgrade for their healing set. |
| 16:58.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | so what you aren't specced |
| 16:58.34 | RaydenUnicyclist | that certainly makes sense |
| 16:58.37 | Cryect | Right |
| 16:58.38 | dylanm | Kemayo: Oh well that's fine then. |
| 16:58.44 | RaydenUnicyclist | if you aren't going to use the gear to raid, give it to someone who will |
| 16:59.02 | dylanm | Yeah for everything besides raiding you can find the gear to get by in other places, sure. |
| 16:59.15 | buu | I've never been terribly happy with giving people gear would it would be the largest upgrade |
| 16:59.21 | buu | Especially in karazhan. |
| 16:59.24 | dylanm | Raiding gets you gear so you can... raid more. |
| 16:59.25 | SunTsu | I don't understand the fuzz about it. It's just an item. Just go there again and again, and either somebody gets what he wants or has something better in the very future |
| 16:59.40 | Kemayo | I've seen a lot of guild grief over masterlooter giving awesome healing items to shadow priests when specced healers want them, because "they might have to heal sometimes". |
| 17:00.04 | dylanm | Yeah... I mean if the guy for whom it's a smaller upgrade wants to defer that's cool. I do that a lot if I think the other guy's just been unlucky. |
| 17:00.05 | steev64 | cladbot: where's cladhaire? |
| 17:00.12 | buu | SunTsu: Uh, just as an example, I've killed prince maybe.. 40 times by now? Dunno exactly, but quite a few times and I've seen the mindblade drop like twice. |
| 17:00.13 | dylanm | Otherwise just roll roll roll. |
| 17:00.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | not everything drops often. http://youtube.com/watch?v=HYtro7PnBA8 dropped for me last run |
| 17:00.39 | RaydenUnicyclist | 0.3% drop of trash |
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| 17:00.54 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: Why the fuck do you keep spamming youtube videos |
| 17:00.56 | SunTsu | buu: Well, I just gave away t4 helmet for me after numerous Karazhan runs. I could have taken it, but I gave it to the one in the most need for it |
| 17:00.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | what? |
| 17:01.02 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
| 17:01.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | my bad |
| 17:01.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | windows screws up copy paste |
| 17:01.12 | buu | YOU ARE FAIL. |
| 17:01.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | :( |
| 17:01.21 | steev64 | windows is fail |
| 17:01.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://wowhead.com/?item=30666#comments |
| 17:01.29 | buu | SunTsu: Sure, the individual can decide to do whatever he wants. |
| 17:01.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | sorry about that |
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| 17:01.59 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://wowhead.com/?item=28770 <-- item i meanted to link earlier |
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| 17:02.13 | buu | SunTsu: But if I've been raiding kara for say, 10 weeks in a row to get one or two items, and then someone else shows up using some shitty blue in that slot and comes to the raid,l I'm going to be pissed off if he gets the item over me. |
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| 17:02.21 | steev64 | shaman got his t4 helmet the other day, twas nice |
| 17:02.46 | SunTsu | buu: for me it is quite simple. Tanking it myself would help me and the raid a little bit, giving it to someone else helps the raid more, so the prince will go down easier, so I get my helmet some weeks later |
| 17:02.46 | RaydenUnicyclist | it seems to make sense that if you see someone else will get more improvement, you can pass if you want. no obligation though |
| 17:02.54 | buu | SunTsu: Only if the other person who gets it is a consistent and good player. |
| 17:02.59 | RaydenUnicyclist | also what about number of gear drops? |
| 17:03.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | as a shadow priest id on't need as much from KZ as other classes |
| 17:03.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | so when one of the few items i need drops, should i have priority? |
| 17:03.28 | SunTsu | buu: I am running there for months now. It's just an item after all. You can always find something nearly as good or better as the one you want |
| 17:03.29 | buu | For example, I WANT MY GODDAMN MIND BLADE. |
| 17:03.34 | buu | =[ |
| 17:04.01 | steev64 | want in one hand, shit in the other, see which piles up faster |
| 17:04.09 | buu | SunTsu: You can easily have a huge problem, especially with kara level guilds, where the loot becomes completely distributed througout all 60 people in the guild. |
| 17:04.28 | buu | SunTsu: Especially 'casual raiders' who will only do kara anyway. |
| 17:04.59 | RaydenUnicyclist | how much harder is zul'aman? |
| 17:05.07 | buu | Currently? Very. |
| 17:05.10 | steev64 | prince+ |
| 17:05.31 | RaydenUnicyclist | so you should be able to clear KZ before doing ZA? |
| 17:05.32 | buu | I have my doubts it will go live like it is now, but perhaps it will. |
| 17:05.34 | buu | The loot is amazing. |
| 17:05.38 | steev64 | i've never tried it, but i hope to god its not as dependent on luck of the infernals not dropping in shitty spots |
| 17:05.39 | SunTsu | buu: I don't think so. For instances after Karazhan you need 25 people and spare ones, so it is good if we don't have 10 very well equipped people and the dirty rest ;) |
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| 17:05.45 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: KZ should be completely farmed out before starting ZA |
| 17:05.50 | RaydenUnicyclist | k |
| 17:06.05 | buu | SunTsu: Bah, you're certainly going to be running more than one kara. |
| 17:06.05 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm enjoying KZ |
| 17:06.05 | SunTsu | RaydenUnicyclist: ZA starts where KZ stops in difficulty |
| 17:06.12 | RaydenUnicyclist | it took us 4 or 5 tries to down Moroes, was a fun challenge |
| 17:06.24 | Kain___ | steev64: iirc there are still safe zones in kara listed on wowwiki along the left wall that make prince a cakewalk |
| 17:06.32 | SunTsu | buu: Right, so time after time everybody will have decent equipment |
| 17:06.40 | steev64 | Kain___: tried one the other day |
| 17:06.43 | steev64 | it didn't go so well |
| 17:07.03 | buu | SunTsu: Sure, if you farmed kz for 2 years you could gear every person in your guild. Except of course that all of the good players would have left 1.6 years ago. |
| 17:07.05 | steev64 | infernal dropped right on us (and the tank wasn't geared enough to tank through an infernal) |
| 17:07.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | eastern kingdoms is pwning kalimdor in terms of 70 dungeons... |
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| 17:07.58 | Kain___ | hmmm thought the areas shown had 0 chance of infernal being an issue.. anyone else know if that is still the case? |
| 17:08.00 | steev64 | oh snap |
| 17:08.03 | steev64 | tonight is kara! |
| 17:08.11 | buu | Kain___: It should be, yes. |
| 17:08.14 | SunTsu | buu: No, thats a lot quicker. Because, your guild is not allowed to only do one karazhan run at one time, so if you have 60 mediocre equipped people you get 3-6 runs |
| 17:08.37 | buu | SunTsu: Except half of them are casuals, so they can't run by themselves and they won't run every week and.. so on. |
| 17:08.53 | SunTsu | buu: You can even switch people in for bosses they need things from |
| 17:08.53 | steev64 | 1/2 is still 30 |
| 17:08.58 | steev64 | which is 1-3 runs |
| 17:08.59 | buu | Kain___: But I'm pretty sure it is still true, but I don't think it stops the infeneral dropping on the tank. |
| 17:09.09 | buu | steev64: So you gear 30 decent people =] |
| 17:09.17 | buu | steev64: But that is sort of my point. |
| 17:09.18 | steev64 | im "decent" |
| 17:09.26 | steev64 | but i want my damn pants from chess and chest from netherspite |
| 17:09.48 | steev64 | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draka&n=Elekatun |
| 17:09.55 | buu | steev64: If you have your group of 9 "decent" players, and then 1 casual shows up for one run, does he get some sort of priority? I'm sure the gear is a huge upgrade, but if the next raid he goes to is 6 months later, it won't really help anyone. |
| 17:10.07 | SunTsu | buu: We did it exactly that way, now we have 2 Kara groups every week, and are making our way into the eye |
| 17:10.14 | steev64 | buu: we use dkp :) |
| 17:10.15 | buu | Loot reaver? |
| 17:10.17 | alext | loot council FTW |
| 17:10.21 | buu | steev64: Heh, in kz? |
| 17:10.22 | SunTsu | buu: Right ;) |
| 17:10.25 | steev64 | yep |
| 17:10.27 | steev64 | in kz |
| 17:10.34 | steev64 | because for the longest time |
| 17:10.35 | NivFreak | boo loot council |
| 17:10.46 | alext | loot council depends on you having good officers |
| 17:10.46 | steev64 | we had people who would show up for a second group |
| 17:10.50 | Gngsk | anyone with a pumpkin for a ring should be shot out back |
| 17:10.53 | alext | luckily my guild does |
| 17:10.54 | steev64 | and be 1-3 people shy of a run every time |
| 17:10.54 | NivFreak | alext: yep |
| 17:11.04 | RaydenUnicyclist | <Gngsk> anyone with a pumpkin for a ring should be shot out back <-- ?? |
| 17:11.08 | steev64 | Gngsk: eh, give me my ring of the everliving :) |
| 17:11.11 | alext | loot council is also a godsend if you need to recruit people and your deep in SSC/TK |
| 17:11.16 | alext | then they can jump right into the mix |
| 17:11.21 | alext | and not be behind on DKP |
| 17:11.22 | steev64 | once that drops, sure ill swap it out, but until then |
| 17:11.31 | NivFreak | We run suicide kings |
| 17:11.32 | buu | steev64: Dunno, I Think the guild sort of depends on having good officers. |
| 17:11.36 | NivFreak | but we're not progression focused |
| 17:11.43 | Gngsk | ok, fine. but you shouldn't app to a BT guild with a god damn pumpkin ring |
| 17:11.46 | steev64 | RaydenUnicyclist: he's talking about my profile since im wearing the witching band |
| 17:11.52 | Gngsk | get like an app a day with pumpkin rings, it's depressing |
| 17:11.57 | SunTsu | buu: I frankly favor rolling for items, with slight corrections by the loot master |
| 17:11.59 | steev64 | Gngsk: who the hell said anything about BT? |
| 17:12.04 | Gngsk | lol, ok, fine |
| 17:12.06 | steev64 | i have too much going on in my life to do BT |
| 17:12.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | I"m using the Horseman's Signet |
| 17:12.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | it's a great ring for me |
| 17:12.11 | buu | SunTsu: Eh. Not a huge fan there either. |
| 17:12.12 | Gngsk | casuals can have their pumpkins, just don't app to my guild :P |
| 17:12.22 | steev64 | are you on draka? |
| 17:12.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | i won't be trading my HH ring for a long while |
| 17:12.26 | steev64 | if not, then its not gonna happen |
| 17:12.27 | NivFreak | they aren't bad rings |
| 17:12.30 | NivFreak | well |
| 17:12.33 | NivFreak | the melee one sucks ass |
| 17:12.37 | Gngsk | sure does |
| 17:12.37 | steev64 | actually, even if you are on draka, its not gonna happen |
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| 17:12.55 | steev64 | im quite happy in my guild |
| 17:12.56 | RaydenUnicyclist | Gngsk the HH ring for shadow priests is the 8th best ring you can get |
| 17:13.14 | buu | SunTsu: Although I haven't been in a KZ where there was a bitter fight about loot in quite a while so.. |
| 17:13.27 | buu | SunTsu: I mean, assuming the two players are of equal merit, then rolling is ifne. |
| 17:13.40 | RaydenUnicyclist | upgrades require BT, SSC, Scale of the Sand rep, etc |
| 17:13.55 | RaydenUnicyclist | buu my guild hasnt' had a problem yet |
| 17:14.01 | SunTsu | buu: Everything has pros and cons and the downside of dkp is too great for our guild. Sometimes we need help from other guilds, but who would help if there was no chance to get anything to loot? |
| 17:14.05 | RaydenUnicyclist | but i think it's best to have rules for this before the drama |
| 17:14.17 | Gngsk | kk, fine, guess I'm biased since I'm melee and that one sucks hard |
| 17:14.33 | steev64 | Gngsk: and considering the healing ring is identical to the 25 boj healing ring |
| 17:14.46 | NivFreak | Gngsk: yea, the melee one is terrible |
| 17:14.47 | many | i dont see any drama anyway. you need it - you roll for it. you dont get anything for 10 raids? shit happens. |
| 17:14.53 | NivFreak | I have the same one from the black stalker |
| 17:15.00 | NivFreak | both that and my HH ring are in my bank |
| 17:15.01 | NivFreak | rotting |
| 17:15.02 | SunTsu | many: ACK |
| 17:15.12 | steev64 | yeah |
| 17:15.21 | many | if someone feels disadvantaged, the winners can still pay some money into a pot and pay the ones who didnt get anything |
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| 17:15.23 | steev64 | woulda been nice if they could at least be sold to the vendor since they can't be DEd |
| 17:15.37 | NivFreak | many: we ran kara like that with minimal drama |
| 17:15.38 | RaydenUnicyclist | <many> i dont see any drama anyway. you need it - you roll for it. you dont get anything for 10 raids? shit happens. <-- i run KZ 10 times. 5 items i want drop, warlock wins all of them... fair? |
| 17:16.01 | SunTsu | I don't get T4 Head or T5 shoulders this run? Dang, it was the last run ever. It wasn't? So, I will get it some few weeks later |
| 17:16.09 | many | RaydenUnicyclist: who am i to decide wether something is fair? i dont care either way. |
| 17:16.11 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.20 | NivFreak | people know that others haven't gotten gear |
| 17:16.22 | NivFreak | and they pass |
| 17:16.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm not saying this is a huge problem, i'm just saying there is no easy answer |
| 17:16.29 | NivFreak | it just depends on the group |
| 17:16.30 | many | if someone has a need and wins all of em, so what |
| 17:16.32 | many | lucky roller |
| 17:16.32 | buu | SunTsu: Heh, I don't really like dkp either. |
| 17:16.39 | buu | SunTsu: They usually aren't flexible enough. |
| 17:16.50 | many | i see why people want dkp and stuff, but I dont see any need for it |
| 17:16.59 | RaydenUnicyclist | roll for everything? |
| 17:17.02 | SunTsu | many: Right |
| 17:17.05 | many | but then maybe i just have another attitude. |
| 17:17.07 | steev64 | many: im not a fan of dkp at all |
| 17:17.09 | NeoTron | for 10-mans I don't see the need |
| 17:17.13 | steev64 | but we do a split dkp system |
| 17:17.16 | Chompers | always next week |
| 17:17.21 | Chompers | and someone has to come last |
| 17:17.23 | NeoTron | usually there are only a couple of ppl that needs each item anyway |
| 17:17.28 | NivFreak | yep |
| 17:17.29 | steev64 | it always goes to the class that can use it best first |
| 17:17.32 | steev64 | then it goes by dkp |
| 17:17.36 | buu | SunTsu: I mean, like, the class specific trinkets in T5 land. For example, the warlock one is fairly useless to most pve warlocks, but obviously they're the only ones who can use it. If it cost me dkp, there's no way any of the warlocks in our raid would take it. |
| 17:17.39 | alext | 10mans we just /random, 25mans is loot council |
| 17:17.43 | RaydenUnicyclist | seems like DKP made more sense for 40 mans where several people had the same spec |
| 17:17.49 | steev64 | i.e. if the heart flame leggins drop from chess, it would go to me before the paladin |
| 17:17.49 | many | RaydenUnicyclist: there isnt. as i said, there might be the possibility to use the not-needed stuff for paying out those who didnt get anything |
| 17:17.53 | RaydenUnicyclist | with 10 man you probably aren't sharing loot with many people |
| 17:17.54 | NeoTron | buu: l2felguard |
| 17:17.56 | SunTsu | RaydenUnicyclist: My guild has a "one loot for a person" policy. If you got something, and sonething else drops, you can only get it if nobody else needs it. I think thats quite fine |
| 17:17.58 | buu | NeoTron: I might. |
| 17:17.59 | NeoTron | it's an essential felguard trinket |
| 17:18.04 | buu | NeoTron: I need my two piece t5 |
| 17:18.09 | NeoTron | yeah that is helpful |
| 17:18.14 | buu | NeoTron: And it's hilarious in pvp. |
| 17:18.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | SunTsu that doesn't adress desirability of gear |
| 17:18.22 | NeoTron | it makes you a farming beast too |
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| 17:18.33 | NeoTron | I respecced destro for naj'entus |
| 17:18.37 | buu | Farming fire eles, sure. |
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| 17:18.39 | NeoTron | but I really miss demo in Hyjal |
| 17:18.52 | buu | NeoTron: wTB 41/21 =[ |
| 17:19.00 | NeoTron | well 2xt5 => heal the beast of burden, trinket => elemental farming goodness |
| 17:19.09 | NeoTron | 41/21 would be the bomb |
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| 17:19.23 | buu | NeoTron: Yeah, but you an just do 41/x/x and farm faster. |
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| 17:19.30 | NeoTron | sure |
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| 17:19.37 | Spiffy | yay more naj'entus tonight.. i love a fight that depends on our weakest attribute: raid healing =p |
| 17:19.37 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:07] <Xinhuan> botmail him <--I DID |
| 17:19.43 | NeoTron | but affliction isn't really optimal once you get into t6 gearing |
| 17:19.48 | NeoTron | for farming affliction is hard to beat |
| 17:19.54 | SunTsu | RaydenUnicyclist: Well, you just have to think about what you want |
| 17:19.59 | NeoTron | but then again depending on what you farm 0/21/40 is pretty sick too |
| 17:20.02 | alext | i dunno about that, i see plenty of t6 locks that are affliction, especially with that set bonus |
| 17:20.11 | alext | i think its the 4 piece that heals on every dot |
| 17:20.16 | alext | kinda OP there |
| 17:20.16 | SunTsu | RaydenUnicyclist: If you get something nobody else wanted, then it normally does not count |
| 17:20.18 | NeoTron | I mean if I farm skettis water I don't ever need to stop except every 30m to resac the felguard |
| 17:20.30 | NeoTron | alext: 2 piece |
| 17:20.31 | RaydenUnicyclist | SunTsu a mediocre upgrade drops and i roll and win it. THEN a really awesome trash loot drops. do i have to pass? |
| 17:20.35 | alext | ah well there you go |
| 17:20.39 | NeoTron | 4 piece is 6% more SB damage |
| 17:20.39 | CIA-7 | 03saroz * r53521 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: |
| 17:20.39 | CIA-7 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 17:20.39 | CIA-7 | - Set hideWithoutStandby |
| 17:20.45 | NeoTron | and ofc it works |
| 17:20.46 | alext | yeah thats right thanks |
| 17:20.56 | NeoTron | but t6 gear doesn't just add spelldmg - in fact spelldmg doesn't change much |
| 17:21.02 | NeoTron | it adds crit/hit/haste instead |
| 17:21.05 | alext | yeah beefs up crit and haste |
| 17:21.15 | alext | i guess the nice thing as destro t6 is you basically get some siphon life from your gear |
| 17:21.18 | alext | opposed to the actual spell |
| 17:21.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | chinese kill illidan in tier 3 gear... |
| 17:21.52 | NeoTron | I did some logs and soul leech was about equivalent to siphon life in terms of healing |
| 17:22.04 | buu | NeoTron: What? |
| 17:22.08 | SunTsu | RaydenUnicyclist: That depends. If nobody wanted the mediocre thing no. If nobody wants the great thing no. On every other possibility: yes. Then you would have to wait til the next drop |
| 17:22.17 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53522 10FreeRefills/FreeRefills.lua: |
| 17:22.17 | CIA-7 | FreeRefills: Looking at the patch vhaarr committed in 53503, a big part of the problem was caused by the number of |
| 17:22.17 | CIA-7 | bankslots changing. Update to use the named constants so this should Just Work if we get more slots in future. |
| 17:22.28 | buu | NeoTron: Soul Leech is what, 6%? |
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| 17:23.36 | buu | SunTsu: Then you have situations where everyone is afraid to roll on the minor upgrade |
| 17:23.46 | buu | Which is what dkp does also. |
| 17:24.01 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://www.wowwiki.com/Harbinger_Bands i win this and then http://wowhead.com/?item=30666 drops. there is such a huge discrepancy in the value of those items |
| 17:24.17 | NeoTron | 28 soul leech out of 88 SB hits |
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| 17:24.56 | NeoTron | RaydenUnicyclist: welcome to raiding |
| 17:24.59 | NeoTron | "it ain't fair" |
| 17:25.06 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: Well, in 10 man kz, there is a much smaller chance of other people looking for the same item. |
| 17:25.16 | SunTsu | RaydenUnicyclist: Well, it will be a big upgrade for someone else, in either way the raid wins |
| 17:25.30 | buu | SunTsu: Only if the person who gets it doesn't fucking suck. |
| 17:25.38 | buu | So anyway, back to my pitbull woes. |
| 17:25.43 | buu | There has to be a way to do this. |
| 17:25.54 | SunTsu | buu: Then you just shouldn't take him with you ;) |
| 17:25.56 | buu | ckknight: Help! |
| 17:25.59 | buu | SunTsu: Bah. |
| 17:26.14 | buu | SunTsu: When you're first hitting things, usre. |
| 17:26.16 | buu | *Sure |
| 17:26.28 | NeoTron | RaydenUnicyclist: you don't even want to know how many times I did karazhan before I got the bracers of maidein... |
| 17:26.33 | NeoTron | and I never got the gloves off attumen |
| 17:26.35 | buu | And rolling for items isn't a bad thing in specific situations.. |
| 17:26.39 | buu | NeoTron: l2pvp imo. |
| 17:26.43 | RaydenUnicyclist | NeoTron what class? |
| 17:26.50 | buu | FELGUARD CLASS. |
| 17:26.54 | NeoTron | oh by the time I got the bracers from maiden I already had the pvp ones |
| 17:27.09 | buu | NeoTron: Those gloves took me forever to get. And they're so damn good. |
| 17:27.10 | NeoTron | I picked them up but later realized the pvp ones are better anyway |
| 17:27.16 | Kain___ | I just got the boots from Maiden about 2 weeks ago... after like 4 months |
| 17:27.23 | buu | NeoTron: I'm never going to be able to replace them =[ |
| 17:27.24 | CIA-7 | 03chexsum * r53523 10CombatAlert/ (CombatAlert.lua CombatAlert.toc embeds.xml readme.txt): |
| 17:27.24 | CIA-7 | CombatAlert: |
| 17:27.24 | CIA-7 | - Removed chat events |
| 17:27.24 | CIA-7 | - Changed unitid checks |
| 17:27.26 | NeoTron | they are good |
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| 17:27.31 | NeoTron | although I'm set for +hit atm |
| 17:27.42 | NeoTron | I have gloves off magtheridon, t4 and t5 |
| 17:27.44 | buu | NeoTron: I'm annoyed. There's like, 3 upgrades in ssc and 2 off doomwalker |
| 17:27.46 | NeoTron | so I suppose I'm et |
| 17:27.56 | RaydenUnicyclist | NeoTron what class are you? |
| 17:27.57 | SunTsu | NeoTron: That way my point earlier. There are so many possibilities to get decent gear, it's no problem not getting one special item, there always are better or slightly worse items |
| 17:27.59 | buu | NeoTron: I need the hit off the gloves too badly. |
| 17:27.59 | NeoTron | lok |
| 17:28.02 | NeoTron | lock |
| 17:28.07 | buu | SunTsu: Eh, not really. |
| 17:28.12 | RaydenUnicyclist | gear for shadow priests is wonky |
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| 17:28.19 | NeoTron | can always enchant with spellhit |
| 17:28.29 | buu | SunTsu: The Lost Pendant, the gloves of flowing thought, etc. |
| 17:28.33 | NeoTron | one of our SP's just got the mace of hyjal trash |
| 17:28.36 | NeoTron | he's happy |
| 17:28.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | 6 craftable or "easily" farmable items are better than anything i can get in KZ |
| 17:28.39 | buu | NeoTron: Yeah, but then it really isn't an upgrade. |
| 17:28.47 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: Yup. Welcome to caster land =[ |
| 17:28.50 | NeoTron | for a SP, those are typically better than t5 too |
| 17:28.55 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah |
| 17:28.59 | NeoTron | except lower stamina |
| 17:28.59 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: The Spelltrike pants are better than t5 pants easily. |
| 17:29.05 | NeoTron | come t6 stamina pwns |
| 17:29.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | i already have my FSW set and i have spellstrike hood |
| 17:29.17 | NeoTron | for Naj'entus you really want >10k |
| 17:29.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | once i get some more money i'll have the spellstrike pants |
| 17:29.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | so no need to roll on any of those |
| 17:29.31 | NeoTron | then add the badge offhand and trinket |
| 17:29.36 | buu | Yup. |
| 17:29.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah |
| 17:29.44 | RaydenUnicyclist | belt of blasting |
| 17:29.47 | buu | lewl |
| 17:29.49 | NeoTron | yep |
| 17:29.54 | buu | Never going to drop EVER. |
| 17:29.54 | NeoTron | I got that pattern last night |
| 17:29.55 | buu | =[ |
| 17:30.00 | buu | Unless people are selling it where you are. |
| 17:30.00 | RaydenUnicyclist | nice |
| 17:30.03 | NeoTron | well no |
| 17:30.04 | buu | NeoTron: I hate you. |
| 17:30.07 | RaydenUnicyclist | just buy the gear |
| 17:30.08 | NeoTron | not belt of blasting sorry |
| 17:30.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | it's boe |
| 17:30.12 | NeoTron | I meant belt of ruination |
| 17:30.16 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: Nobody can fucking sell it here. |
| 17:30.18 | NeoTron | we already have two belt of blasting in the guild |
| 17:30.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah one's nice too |
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| 17:30.24 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: Because everyone is made of fail. |
| 17:30.36 | RaydenUnicyclist | you can't get anyone to craft and sell you a nether? |
| 17:30.38 | NeoTron | problem is |
| 17:30.43 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: It doesn't take a nether. |
| 17:30.48 | Kain___ | primal vortex |
| 17:30.51 | buu | ^ |
| 17:30.52 | NeoTron | by the time you get extra vortexes you typically are done with SSC |
| 17:31.04 | buu | NeoTron: We have like, 4 guilds in ssc/tk =[ |
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| 17:31.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | belt of blasting takes 2 nethers |
| 17:31.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | which item are you talking about? |
| 17:31.34 | NeoTron | nether vortexes |
| 17:31.50 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
| 17:31.52 | RaydenUnicyclist | different nether |
| 17:32.08 | buu | Generally 'nether' refers solely to a 'primal nether'. |
| 17:32.21 | alext | we had a crazy day at SSC last week |
| 17:32.21 | Spiffy | has anyone else had an obscene amount of Nethervoid cloaks off trash btw? |
| 17:32.25 | RaydenUnicyclist | may have to scrap my plans to get a belt of blasting then |
| 17:32.30 | alext | every single epic ITEM that drops off trash, dropped |
| 17:32.36 | alext | including the coveted druid tanking staff |
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| 17:32.44 | alext | also had 4 plans drop that day as well |
| 17:32.55 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: If you have a real server with dozen+ guilds clearing ssc, you have a decent chance. |
| 17:33.04 | RaydenUnicyclist | destromath |
| 17:33.08 | buu | alext: Heh, I had a kz run that got like 5 of those firebelts. |
| 17:33.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | i don't know what our high end raiding is |
| 17:33.10 | NeoTron | we've gotten 3 so far I think |
| 17:33.17 | NeoTron | and we've been in ssc/TK 4 nights |
| 17:33.22 | NeoTron | I mean bt/hyjal |
| 17:33.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | i want a nethervoid cloak |
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| 17:33.35 | buu | Where are T5 chests dropped? |
| 17:33.43 | Randag | kael'thas |
| 17:33.44 | NeoTron | kael'thas |
| 17:33.50 | NeoTron | as a hint to casters |
| 17:33.56 | Spiffy | I think like all of our shadow priests and warlocks have one.. and we've only killed 2/5 hyjal 0 BT |
| 17:33.58 | buu | Lame. |
| 17:34.03 | Spiffy | as well as that damn mace |
| 17:34.04 | NeoTron | top caster chest pidce in the game comes from Vashj |
| 17:34.17 | NeoTron | it's better than all T6 pieces according to my calculations |
| 17:34.46 | Nefarion | official forums down? |
| 17:34.46 | RaydenUnicyclist | "On Heroic mode, these first three bosses are known as the Three Free Badges, as the Gatekeepers remain virtually unchanged from regular mode and Mechano-Lord Capacitus is a ridiculously easy fight with proper positioning." :D |
| 17:34.47 | NeoTron | we got two shaman haste shoulder patterns the other night |
| 17:34.55 | Nefarion | oh it's tuesda |
| 17:34.57 | NeoTron | problem is none of the healing shamans can make them |
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| 17:35.49 | Spiffy | lol.. yea.. resto shamans with LW are probably difficult to find |
| 17:36.40 | NeoTron | our enhance shammy is LW/BS |
| 17:36.53 | NeoTron | right now though there are no HoD available anyway |
| 17:37.07 | NeoTron | need like 380 or so to make all members teir SR gear |
| 17:37.59 | NivFreak | RaydenUnicyclist: what are you reading? |
| 17:38.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | wowwiki |
| 17:38.23 | NivFreak | ah |
| 17:38.27 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Mechanar |
| 17:38.35 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm looking at collecting badges for my spriest offhand |
| 17:38.47 | NivFreak | if you don't have a stupid group |
| 17:38.51 | NivFreak | you can do 5 badges in 45 mins |
| 17:38.53 | NivFreak | in mech |
| 17:39.02 | NivFreak | or less |
| 17:39.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | isn't it 7 or 8 badges? |
| 17:39.12 | NivFreak | 5 |
| 17:39.20 | NivFreak | 3 boss + 2 gatekeepers |
| 17:39.24 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh 3 normal bosses |
| 17:39.45 | NivFreak | underbog yields 4 iirc |
| 17:39.45 | Pkekyo | most groups tend to skip the 4th boss though |
| 17:39.49 | Pkekyo | she's a righteous cunt |
| 17:39.52 | NivFreak | other than that, almost everything is 3 |
| 17:39.55 | NivFreak | Pkekyo: she's easy |
| 17:40.03 | NivFreak | pugs skip her because they are bads |
| 17:40.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | i don't remember the first couple mini bosses from mechanar |
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| 17:40.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | but i've only run it once |
| 17:40.56 | Spiffy | servers are up |
| 17:40.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh just those guys |
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| 17:43.11 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53524 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 17:43.11 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:43.11 | CIA-7 | - Added two missing JC patterns |
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| 17:44.21 | Pkekyo | NivFreak: I just don't bother with relying on four other people doing exactly what they should in that fight... |
| 17:44.49 | NivFreak | not much of a team then :) |
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| 17:44.50 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:44.50 | CIA-7 | - deDE tailoring and JC update |
| 17:45.47 | xyu | i've never heard of skipping bosses in underbog |
| 17:45.49 | xyu | who's hard? |
| 17:45.50 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53526 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.toc: |
| 17:45.50 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:45.50 | CIA-7 | - deDE ToC update |
| 17:46.14 | Pkekyo | NivFreak: true, I started doing heroics -long after- everyone else (guildies, friends etc), so I was pretty much stuck in lousyass pugs....I hate clueless DPSers |
| 17:46.31 | Pkekyo | xyu: nothing's hard in underbog, and noone's skipping any bosses |
| 17:46.33 | xyu | is it black stalk? |
| 17:46.35 | xyu | oh |
| 17:46.50 | xyu | the only trouble in pugs i've had in heroic underbog is ghaz |
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| 17:47.27 | NivFreak | we were referring to the 2nd boss in mech |
| 17:47.33 | xyu | oh |
| 17:47.35 | NivFreak | with the elemental adds |
| 17:47.39 | NivFreak | all the PUGs skip her |
| 17:47.40 | xyu | yeah i cry when people skip her |
| 17:47.54 | NivFreak | it's really not that bad |
| 17:47.56 | NivFreak | kite the adds |
| 17:48.02 | NivFreak | when they stop and aoe |
| 17:48.07 | NivFreak | DON'T STAND IN IT |
| 17:48.07 | xyu | it has a "bit" of randomness to it though |
| 17:48.15 | xyu | i've had a pull where all 3 ele's and boss go to tank |
| 17:48.15 | NivFreak | pew pew |
| 17:48.16 | NivFreak | the end |
| 17:48.20 | NivFreak | yep |
| 17:48.28 | Plagous | the adds move really slow - easy to stay away from them |
| 17:48.37 | buu | Yes, AFTER THE NERF. |
| 17:48.38 | NeoTron | lies - my server isn't up :P |
| 17:48.47 | NivFreak | buu: it was easier before the nerf I thought |
| 17:48.53 | NivFreak | when they didn't retrain |
| 17:48.54 | buu | The fight easily got reduced in difficulty by 50%. |
| 17:48.57 | NivFreak | you'd just kite them down the hall |
| 17:49.07 | buu | NivFreak: Well, no, aside from that exploit. |
| 17:49.12 | NivFreak | not her |
| 17:49.15 | NivFreak | the elementals |
| 17:49.20 | Ellipsis | NivFreak: why would it be a "nerf" if it was easier before? |
| 17:49.21 | NeoTron | before you 1) kited her down the hall, 2) kited the adds down the hall, 3) now you can't do either |
| 17:49.22 | NivFreak | kiting her down the hall was a joke |
| 17:49.25 | buu | NivFreak: Yes, aside from that exploit. |
| 17:49.47 | NivFreak | I don't see how movement is an exploit |
| 17:49.51 | NivFreak | sure glitching them into the wall is |
| 17:49.55 | NeoTron | nah not an exploit |
| 17:50.02 | NeoTron | they didn't like it done that way so they changed it |
| 17:50.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | how much do nether vortexes go for? |
| 17:50.09 | NeoTron | but it was rediculously hard before |
| 17:50.14 | NeoTron | RaydenUnicyclist: BoP |
| 17:50.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | i know |
| 17:50.21 | NeoTron | but perhaps 1000-1500g |
| 17:50.25 | RaydenUnicyclist | but if i want someone to craft me something with 2 of them |
| 17:50.26 | NeoTron | if you find a guild with extras |
| 17:50.34 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://wowhead.com/?item=30038 |
| 17:50.52 | RaydenUnicyclist | if i provide mats, a general number? |
| 17:51.13 | NeoTron | ^^ |
| 17:51.18 | NeoTron | I just said... |
| 17:51.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | ok |
| 17:51.27 | RaydenUnicyclist | thanks |
| 17:51.30 | NeoTron | my guild plans to charge about 1000g |
| 17:51.34 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: It's highly dependent on the server. |
| 17:51.45 | buu | I'd love to pay 1500 per vortex =[ |
| 17:51.55 | xyu | i hate that nethervortexes are BoP |
| 17:51.56 | xyu | hate hate hate |
| 17:52.01 | Ellipsis | I'd love to have 1500 to pay o.O |
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| 17:52.03 | Ackis | on guru, they went for 500g each horde side |
| 17:52.06 | xyu | i'd have belt of blasting 3 times over if they weren't |
| 17:52.16 | xyu | every time a vortex drops our tailor isn't in the raid :( |
| 17:52.17 | Ackis | however top two guilds don't do ssc/tk anymore |
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| 17:52.40 | [gk]Hotphoenix | wtb vortex dropping in hyjal/bt |
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| 17:52.42 | CIA-7 | TradeBar: |
| 17:52.42 | CIA-7 | - koKR typo fix |
| 17:52.59 | Pkekyo | meh, shut up, you make me crave the lionheart executioner :< |
| 17:53.00 | Ackis | wtb server update so i can break my mod and then spend hours fixing it |
| 17:53.29 | [gk]Hotphoenix | its ok ackis someone will complain about too many linebreaks in your code :> |
| 17:53.30 | Pkekyo | lol |
| 17:53.38 | Ackis | lmao |
| 17:53.48 | NivFreak | do vortexes drop off any of the trash in TK, or just specific trash? |
| 17:54.05 | Pkekyo | any trash (and bosses?) |
| 17:54.06 | Ackis | Niv: any trash in ssc/tk, plus 1 or 2 off of vashj/kael |
| 17:54.06 | buu | Any trash in tk/ssc. |
| 17:54.10 | buu | 2 off the bosses. |
| 17:54.14 | buu | Er, Super-bosses. |
| 17:54.26 | NivFreak | my guild is starting into TK on thursday |
| 17:54.30 | buu | Aaaaanyway, back to my pitbull problem. |
| 17:54.34 | NivFreak | and starting earlier than I can make it (I'm thier MT) |
| 17:54.42 | buu | NivFreak: Lurker is way easier than loot reaver. |
| 17:54.44 | NivFreak | so they plan to clear all the trash before I get there |
| 17:54.53 | NivFreak | buu: yep |
| 17:54.53 | RaydenUnicyclist | anyone else find the keepers of time dungeons boring? |
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| 17:55.02 | Ackis | so, what's the best way to find a mod that prevents me from moving people in the raid during combat? |
| 17:55.08 | NivFreak | but I'd really like vortexes to upgrade my BS sword =/ |
| 17:55.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm a little over halfway to revered, but i can't think of any reason to run them again |
| 17:55.12 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: BM is almost really cool. |
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| 17:55.31 | steev64 | http://www.warcraft-time-waste.com/images/UIGuide/Shaman%20Button%20Layout.JPG <-- anyone know what that cooldown counter on the buttons is? |
| 17:55.32 | xyu | we got kael to 63% lastnight. rawr |
| 17:55.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | i've run it once |
| 17:55.33 | Ellipsis | I find BM really boring, watching PUGs wipe five thousand times because they can't dps gets old after a while |
| 17:55.36 | xyu | we're going to kill him tonight i know it |
| 17:55.36 | steev64 | or something similar |
| 17:55.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | i guess i should try it again |
| 17:55.39 | buu | NivFreak: Heh, if you're clearing trash to VR, you probably have about 20% chance to get a vortex. |
| 17:55.46 | buu | xyu: Nice! |
| 17:55.46 | NivFreak | that's not bad |
| 17:55.51 | reiser | steev, OmniCC |
| 17:55.57 | buu | xyu: We got moro to 8% on our very first fucking attempt. |
| 17:56.00 | xyu | i heard the gravity part is pretty easy |
| 17:56.03 | buu | xyu: Then we preceded to failboat for 8 pulls. |
| 17:56.12 | sag_ich_nicht | guys |
| 17:56.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i just had the best idea ever |
| 17:56.19 | sag_ich_nicht | power a hyperdrive |
| 17:56.21 | sag_ich_nicht | with a warpcore. |
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| 17:56.47 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, i just had an even cooler idea |
| 17:56.50 | buu | BACK TO MY PITBULL PROBLEMS. |
| 17:56.50 | Ellipsis | have my babies |
| 17:56.53 | steev64 | reiser: is there a ace version? |
| 17:56.58 | buu | How do I center the health/mana bars relative to the portrait?! |
| 17:56.59 | reiser | steev, not sure |
| 17:57.21 | Pkekyo | >RaydenUnicyclistanyone else find the keepers of time dungeons boring? <--- yup, I'm so sick and fucking tired of those shitholes I'm not even going to try get the sexy Hourglass of the Unraveller even |
| 17:57.37 | Chompers | i have that |
| 17:57.39 | Ackis | BM is fun, 20 min instance ftw |
| 17:57.43 | steev64 | i have that hourglass, dropped on my second run through bm |
| 17:57.44 | Chompers | not to rub it in or anything |
| 17:57.44 | Ackis | hyjal is boring |
| 17:57.56 | Ackis | durnhold... thrall needs an epic mount |
| 17:57.57 | steev64 | need to run through there one more time on my rogue to get his alchemy item thingie |
| 17:57.59 | Ellipsis | BM makes me cry |
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| 17:58.02 | reiser | is there some addon which can dynamically change macro ? as a hunter I use macro to do my shot rotation, but I need another macro with just slight difference when I have increased attack speed, e.g. with Quick Shots or Rapid Fire ? |
| 17:58.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:56] <Ellipsis> have my babies <--okay but you pay the plane ticket |
| 17:58.10 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: done. |
| 17:58.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | Pkekyo but i've run BM once and the other one twice :P |
| 17:58.33 | Pkekyo | guess your only option is to go all /wrist then |
| 17:58.37 | buu | BM was a great idea but the implementation could so totally be better. |
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| 17:58.38 | Chompers | only run it to attune alts realluy |
| 17:58.38 | Ellipsis | reiser: just make a second macro and put it on another key? |
| 17:58.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: okay now i just need a picture so i'll recognize you at the airport. |
| 17:58.49 | Chompers | tank it in fury gear :P |
| 17:58.57 | Ackis | so there's no easy way to find out which mod prevents me from moving people in the raid during combat? lol |
| 17:59.02 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: after all this time you haven't even seen a pictar of me? |
| 17:59.09 | reiser | Ellipsis, yea but thats way too messy interface then :D i want all on one button if possible lol |
| 17:59.18 | Pkekyo | if BM wasn't down there in FUCKING NOWHERE, I might actually've been arsed to do it some more >.< |
| 17:59.28 | Ellipsis | reiser: it's not possible |
| 17:59.32 | sag_ich_nicht | nope, because i (insert correct tense of don't/didn't) care |
| 17:59.43 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: <3 |
| 18:00.12 | Pkekyo | lulz |
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| 18:00.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah caverns of time is far away from everything |
| 18:00.46 | Ackis | wheeee servers up |
| 18:00.47 | Ackis | teheheheheheheh |
| 18:01.08 | buu | Ellipsis: How do I Fix my pitbull problem?! |
| 18:01.25 | Ellipsis | buu: what problem? |
| 18:01.46 | Pkekyo | PEBCAK |
| 18:02.04 | Pkekyo | did I get it right this time? >.< |
| 18:02.11 | buu | Ellipsis: I want to cneter the health/mana bars relative to the portrait. |
| 18:02.13 | buu | CENTER. |
| 18:02.20 | Ellipsis | buu: portrait side = top |
| 18:02.28 | buu | Ellipsis: Huh? |
| 18:02.34 | Pkekyo | buu: portrait side = top |
| 18:02.38 | cncfanatics | ...ns\Cartographer\Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua:904: bad argument #1 to 'select' (index out of range): |
| 18:02.38 | buu | Useless. |
| 18:02.43 | Pkekyo | no u |
| 18:02.43 | cncfanatics | anyone know what causes this? |
| 18:02.53 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: a bad argument? |
| 18:02.53 | Ellipsis | you're getting that too cncfanatics? |
| 18:03.02 | Ellipsis | I thought it was just because of my module disabling ways |
| 18:03.32 | cncfanatics | got it, I don't do standalone |
| 18:03.39 | cncfanatics | everything is embed for me |
| 18:03.49 | Ellipsis | cool, it's not my fault then :D |
| 18:04.09 | buu | Ellipsis: Do you have any useful ideas? |
| 18:04.25 | Ackis | why are void crystals cheaper than prismatics? /sigh |
| 18:04.46 | *** join/#wowace ND (n=Miranda@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 18:06.13 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 18:06.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i bought the black leather version with all extras of this: http://www.sfbags.com/products/mambocombos/cargosuite.htm |
| 18:06.35 | sag_ich_nicht | discuss |
| 18:06.51 | Ackis | cake > pie |
| 18:06.58 | sag_ich_nicht | cake = pie |
| 18:07.00 | sag_ich_nicht | welcome to europe. |
| 18:07.02 | *** join/#wowace TheHolyfallout (n=chatzill@pool-96-229-74-189.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:07.11 | Ackis | i'm Candian eh |
| 18:07.17 | sag_ich_nicht | so? |
| 18:07.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i think you missunderstood my point |
| 18:07.24 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 18:07.41 | Ackis | if cake = pie, why does portal use cake and not pie? |
| 18:07.56 | Bejitt | the cake is a lie |
| 18:07.59 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:08.09 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 18:08.10 | [gk]Hotphoenix | pie != cake |
| 18:08.15 | Mire | CAKE IS IMBA |
| 18:08.16 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:07] <Ackis> if cake = pie, why does portal use cake and not pie? |
| 18:08.16 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:07] <Bejitt> the cake is a lie |
| 18:08.22 | sag_ich_nicht | how can so much win be in so little words? |
| 18:08.41 | Ackis | how does a game like portal = so much win? |
| 18:09.02 | NeoTron | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Classic-WTF-Lock-In-Key-Security.aspx = full of win |
| 18:10.32 | Ellipsis | buu: I must be misunderstanding your question, because portrait side does exactly what I think you want |
| 18:11.27 | dreamss | nice crack neo tron |
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| 18:11.45 | NeoTron | worsethanfailure.com is always safe |
| 18:11.57 | NeoTron | and incredibly funny sometimes |
| 18:12.11 | buu | Ellipsis: Perhaps I didn't get your answer |
| 18:12.17 | buu | Ellipsis: I want something like | |= |
| 18:12.19 | Ellipsis | [11:01:01 am] <Ellipsis> buu: portrait side = top |
| 18:12.19 | Ellipsis | [11:01:10 am] <buu> Ellipsis: Huh? |
| 18:12.19 | Ellipsis | [11:01:15 am] <Pkekyo> buu: portrait side = top |
| 18:12.26 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53528 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-koKR.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu: Updated localization koKR |
| 18:12.28 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 18:12.33 | Ellipsis | put blank spaces top and bottom |
| 18:12.40 | dreamss | this is like animated bash.org |
| 18:12.41 | dreamss | sweet |
| 18:12.42 | buu | Ellipsis: How do I have a blankspace at the top AND the bottom? |
| 18:12.49 | buu | dreamss: Multiplayer notepad. |
| 18:12.53 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss |
| 18:12.55 | sag_ich_nicht | how about |
| 18:12.57 | Ellipsis | make an extra blank space |
| 18:12.58 | sag_ich_nicht | you kill yourself |
| 18:13.00 | sag_ich_nicht | or DIAF? |
| 18:13.03 | buu | Ellipsis: Erm. How? |
| 18:14.02 | dreamss | make me! |
| 18:14.14 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl85-238-74-80.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 18:14.23 | cncfanatics | NeoTron, is that real ? :o |
| 18:14.33 | Ellipsis | buu: iunno, if the module doesn't let you create two then make a duplicate module and name it BlankSpace2 or something |
| 18:14.36 | sag_ich_nicht | pwnt. |
| 18:14.41 | dreamss | dam |
| 18:14.45 | buu | Ellipsis: Oh, er, hrm. |
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| 18:15.07 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 18:15.08 | sag_ich_nicht | guys |
| 18:15.10 | sag_ich_nicht | we need to dicuss |
| 18:15.13 | sag_ich_nicht | a game mechanic change |
| 18:15.16 | sag_ich_nicht | that's been way overdue |
| 18:15.22 | dreamss | shamans dont die fix? |
| 18:15.22 | sag_ich_nicht | warstomp should instagib gnomes. |
| 18:15.23 | Rayden | ? |
| 18:15.36 | buu | CAN'T ARGUE. |
| 18:15.37 | Bejitt | there's a kitten in my roof o.O |
| 18:15.39 | Rayden | agree |
| 18:15.53 | buu | Gnomes should be removed so the game looks 10% less stupid. |
| 18:16.00 | dreamss | use the portal gun bejitt |
| 18:16.17 | sag_ich_nicht | WANT portal gun |
| 18:16.18 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 18:16.36 | dreamss | gabe had it right, i totally use it in the playground |
| 18:16.38 | dreamss | weee |
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| 18:17.06 | kenlyric | you know, I don't think that portal chain is sustainable. |
| 18:17.08 | buu | Also, my server is not working =[ |
| 18:17.18 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 18:17.18 | kenlyric | as he picks up speed, he's going to fly right over the orange portal. |
| 18:17.28 | sag_ich_nicht | AoE insta gnome gib is overpowered |
| 18:17.32 | kenlyric | needs better angular placement. |
| 18:17.36 | sag_ich_nicht | instagib ONE gnome in range. |
| 18:17.36 | buu | NO |
| 18:17.42 | sag_ich_nicht | the others just get the normal effect. |
| 18:17.45 | buu | Every gnome ever. |
| 18:17.55 | sag_ich_nicht | taurens can't be warlocks. |
| 18:17.58 | sag_ich_nicht | -s |
| 18:18.04 | buu | We need undead druids. |
| 18:18.07 | Ellipsis | a tauren stomps on one realm, all gnomes on every realm die |
| 18:18.12 | Ellipsis | even the EU servers! |
| 18:18.22 | dreamss | if a tauren sits down.. |
| 18:18.59 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:17] <sag_ich_nicht> okay |
| 18:18.59 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:17] <kenlyric> as he picks up speed, he's going to fly right over the orange portal. |
| 18:19.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:17] <sag_ich_nicht> AoE insta gnome gib is overpowered |
| 18:19.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:17] <sag_ich_nicht> instagib ONE gnome in range. |
| 18:19.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:17] <buu> NO |
| 18:19.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:17] <sag_ich_nicht> the others just get the normal effect. |
| 18:19.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:17] <buu> Every gnome ever. |
| 18:19.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:17] <sag_ich_nicht> taurens can't be warlocks. |
| 18:19.05 | xyu` | we need undead gnomes. <3 |
| 18:19.06 | sag_ich_nicht | eh |
| 18:19.08 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry. |
| 18:19.10 | sag_ich_nicht | wrong window |
| 18:19.12 | sag_ich_nicht | someone kick me. |
| 18:19.34 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 18:19.41 | Ellipsis | ~kick sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:19.42 | purl | ACTION kicks sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:20.01 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't gkick me...I'M AN OFFICER! (not. one rank below, but same rights. but my rank is more awesome anyway.) |
| 18:20.14 | *** join/#wowace mandrill_ (i=sintflut@dslb-088-076-253-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
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| 18:20.44 | Ellipsis | what's your rank, gnome hating loladin? |
| 18:20.48 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 18:20.51 | sag_ich_nicht | my rank just says OMG |
| 18:21.07 | bigzero | Ackis: ping |
| 18:21.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and i don't hate gnomes, bitch |
| 18:21.09 | Ellipsis | old men's garbage? |
| 18:21.20 | sag_ich_nicht | no, OH MY GOD |
| 18:21.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i just think it's unrealistic |
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| 18:21.37 | sag_ich_nicht | that tauren feet don't crush gnomes |
| 18:21.48 | sag_ich_nicht | (in before game argument) |
| 18:21.59 | buu | Ellipsis: I don't see a 'blank space' bar =[ |
| 18:22.09 | Ellipsis | buu: do you have the module enabled? |
| 18:22.17 | buu | Ellipsis: I'm reading the source. |
| 18:22.18 | dreamss | or at least pick them up sag |
| 18:22.20 | dreamss | heh |
| 18:22.21 | buu | SINCE MY SERVER IS DOWN. |
| 18:22.25 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss: yeah |
| 18:22.42 | Ellipsis | buu: why is your server down? |
| 18:22.47 | buu | Ellipsis: Blizzard hates me. |
| 18:22.51 | Ellipsis | maintenance ended like half an hour ago |
| 18:23.08 | buu | BarFader CastBar DruidManaBar ExperienceBar HealthBar PowerBar ReputationBar ThreatBar |
| 18:23.20 | Ellipsis | well there you go |
| 18:23.21 | buu | Ellipsis: MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO 1PM DUE TO UNFORSEEN CIRCUMSTANCES. |
| 18:23.33 | Ellipsis | pwned |
| 18:23.48 | buu | Ellipsis: Does one of those look like a spacer bar to you? |
| 18:23.51 | Ellipsis | i.e. someone spilled coffee on your server |
| 18:23.55 | Ellipsis | no, that's the problem |
| 18:24.00 | Ellipsis | you don't have the module enabled |
| 18:24.08 | buu | IT IS THE SOURCE CODE |
| 18:24.11 | buu | YOU DON'T ENABLE THINGS HERE. |
| 18:24.21 | sag_ich_nicht | enable the module. |
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| 18:24.40 | Ellipsis | buu: then wtf are you on about |
| 18:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis you ruined the joke |
| 18:24.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Ellipsis |
| 18:24.51 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Ellipsis |
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| 18:25.07 | Ellipsis | ~poke sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:25.08 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind sag_ich_nicht, pokes sag_ich_nicht repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:25.23 | Ellipsis | sigh, the grammar on that one drives me nuts |
| 18:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 18:25.57 | sag_ich_nicht | it's supposed to be comic, as in comic-comic. |
| 18:26.11 | Ellipsis | your mom |
| 18:26.13 | sag_ich_nicht | so it reads like a storyboard |
| 18:26.15 | sag_ich_nicht | my mom is awesome |
| 18:26.17 | sag_ich_nicht | what about her? |
| 18:26.38 | kenlyric | the problem is that should be a semicolon. |
| 18:27.16 | sag_ich_nicht | well FIX IT THEN |
| 18:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | geez. |
| 18:27.18 | Ellipsis | and there needs to be an "and" after one fo the commas |
| 18:27.27 | Ellipsis | s/fo/of/ |
| 18:27.28 | sag_ich_nicht | nope, doesn't, Ellipsis |
| 18:27.32 | sag_ich_nicht | ever seen a storyboard? |
| 18:27.39 | Ellipsis | this is IRC |
| 18:27.46 | Ellipsis | we speak english here |
| 18:27.51 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 18:27.53 | dreamss | what |
| 18:27.59 | dreamss | english motherfucker |
| 18:28.10 | sag_ich_nicht | this is IRC |
| 18:28.19 | dreamss | what is no country i heard of |
| 18:28.27 | sag_ich_nicht | we speak binary. |
| 18:28.32 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 18:28.32 | dreamss | 10111 |
| 18:28.33 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 18:29.03 | sag_ich_nicht | 01100100 01110010 01100101 01100001 01101101 01110011 01110011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01101101 01101111 01101101 00100000 01100111 01101001 01110110 01100101 01110011 00100000 01100010 01100001 01100100 00100000 01101000 01100101 01100001 01100100 00101110 00100000 00111010 00101000 |
| 18:29.09 | Rayden | it's a main keeping track of mods on two computers |
| 18:29.21 | dreamss | that takes to fucking long sag |
| 18:30.13 | sag_ich_nicht | it's even grouped in bytes! |
| 18:30.15 | Chompers | running WAU isn't hard rayden |
| 18:30.22 | Rayden | yeah wau |
| 18:30.24 | Rayden | but all my other mods |
| 18:30.32 | Chompers | fair enough then |
| 18:30.37 | Rayden | and if i install a mod in one place i have to remember to install it on the other |
| 18:30.45 | Rayden | and it's harder to keep track of which mods i updated |
| 18:30.50 | Rayden | did i update mobinfo on my laptop? |
| 18:30.57 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2rsync |
| 18:30.58 | sag_ich_nicht | bitch |
| 18:31.32 | Rayden | is pitbull supposed to have about 20 f olders? |
| 18:31.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 18:31.47 | Ellipsis | Rayden, why don't you just copy teh folders from one comp to the other? |
| 18:31.47 | Rayden | ok |
| 18:31.48 | sag_ich_nicht | it's modular. |
| 18:31.52 | Rayden | i usually do |
| 18:31.54 | Rayden | but i'm not at home now |
| 18:32.00 | sag_ich_nicht | thus |
| 18:32.01 | Rayden | haven't played on my laptop in a while |
| 18:32.02 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2rsync |
| 18:32.05 | Ellipsis | then why do you care about the laptop? |
| 18:32.09 | sag_ich_nicht | actually you could just use fucking DIFF |
| 18:32.11 | Rayden | cause i'm on it right now |
| 18:32.16 | Rayden | what sag_ich_nicht ? |
| 18:32.17 | Ellipsis | then update your laptop's addons |
| 18:32.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Rayden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync |
| 18:32.50 | Rayden | Unix :( |
| 18:32.53 | Ellipsis | tbh when we need to sync interfaces we just play from a network share |
| 18:32.56 | buu | So I have code that looks like.. |
| 18:32.56 | Ozguli | learn to play without any addons! |
| 18:33.04 | buu | if foo == "bar" then |
| 18:33.08 | buu | stuff |
| 18:33.09 | buu | end |
| 18:33.24 | buu | Actually, why am I asking you. |
| 18:33.30 | Ellipsis | buu, what is your question? |
| 18:33.56 | Ozguli | ... but just make sure that the action bars aren't too brokenly setupped |
| 18:34.00 | buu | Ellipsis: I figured it out. |
| 18:34.01 | Ellipsis | bad sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:34.07 | Ozguli | cheers* |
| 18:34.11 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 18:34.13 | sag_ich_nicht | just cheer |
| 18:34.14 | buu | Ellipsis: I'm coyping and pasting 'blankSpace' to 'blankSpace2' =[ |
| 18:34.15 | sag_ich_nicht | that is intentional |
| 18:34.22 | Ozguli | me does something |
| 18:34.34 | sag_ich_nicht | *an |
| 18:34.41 | Ellipsis | hahahaha |
| 18:34.44 | Ellipsis | that was awesome |
| 18:34.45 | Ellipsis | <3 sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:34.48 | sag_ich_nicht | 8D |
| 18:34.56 | Ozguli | I'm not native :\ |
| 18:35.00 | Ellipsis | neither is he |
| 18:35.05 | dreamss | nice colors |
| 18:35.06 | sag_ich_nicht | ahahahahahaha now he isn't noticing it |
| 18:35.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Ozguli: i wrote engrish, not english. that has a reason. i suggest you look it up at wikipedia |
| 18:35.35 | Ozguli | I know what it means |
| 18:35.40 | sag_ich_nicht | okay. |
| 18:35.45 | sag_ich_nicht | oh fuck |
| 18:35.48 | sag_ich_nicht | he's from winland |
| 18:35.52 | sag_ich_nicht | don't fuck with him |
| 18:35.53 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 18:35.59 | Ozguli | lal |
| 18:36.00 | sag_ich_nicht | seriously |
| 18:36.09 | sag_ich_nicht | have you looked at the numbers of the winter war? |
| 18:36.10 | Ozguli | don't take it like that... |
| 18:36.18 | Ozguli | I mean my country |
| 18:36.21 | buu | Why is there a blackSpace function.. |
| 18:36.29 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 18:36.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll just quote wikipedia: |
| 18:36.36 | Ozguli | gah whatever I want to change the pw of this nick |
| 18:36.40 | *** kick/#wowace [sag_ich_nicht!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 18:36.40 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85.127.114.186) |
| 18:36.44 | sag_ich_nicht | hi, asshole |
| 18:36.49 | buu | ckknight: I AM COMMITTING ABOMINATIONS. |
| 18:36.52 | Ozguli | to hide the stupid country flag |
| 18:36.59 | ckknight | buu, fun times? |
| 18:37.00 | buu | ckknight: Why do you have a 'blackSpace' function? |
| 18:37.03 | buu | ckknight: No =[ |
| 18:37.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Ozguli |
| 18:37.08 | ckknight | buu, blankSpace |
| 18:37.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i am serious |
| 18:37.10 | buu | ckknight: I'm copying and pasting random code. |
| 18:37.12 | sag_ich_nicht | not making fun of you |
| 18:37.13 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 18:37.18 | Ellipsis | Ozguli: /ns set password |
| 18:37.20 | buu | ckknight: local blackSpace_optionsFunc = barOptions('blankSpace') |
| 18:37.24 | Ozguli | I've forgotten it |
| 18:37.27 | Bejitt | =O |
| 18:37.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ook |
| 18:37.31 | Rayden | oh |
| 18:37.31 | ckknight | buu, what about it? |
| 18:37.33 | sag_ich_nicht | *look |
| 18:37.33 | Rayden | i forgot the patch |
| 18:37.35 | Rayden | woe is me |
| 18:37.43 | buu | ckknight: should that be 'local blankSpace' ? |
| 18:37.47 | ckknight | probably. |
| 18:38.02 | buu | ckknight: Before I finish this horror, is there anyway to enable two blank spaces in a pitbull unit frame? |
| 18:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | winter war, finnish army: 250000 men. USSR army: 1000000 men. finish army: 26662 dead. USSR army: 126875 dead or missing. |
| 18:38.46 | sag_ich_nicht | don't fuck with winland. |
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| 18:38.58 | ckknight | buu, copy-pasting with different names |
| 18:39.21 | buu | ckknight: In pitbull_metalayout? |
| 18:39.25 | ckknight | yea, basically |
| 18:39.29 | buu | =[ |
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| 18:39.52 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, American Civil War had similar numbers for a while, the North still won in the end, though |
| 18:40.19 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: Yeah, but it's the USSR, they lose 2 million men every time they pitch a tent. |
| 18:40.48 | sag_ich_nicht | buu: did you just use the present tense for that sentence? |
| 18:40.52 | Ellipsis | heehee, that sounds dirty buu |
| 18:41.18 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 18:41.19 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 18:41.21 | Rayden | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/image001.jpg <-- home sweet home |
| 18:41.26 | buu | ckknight: function MetaLayout.options.alwaysBar2(group |
| 18:41.27 | sag_ich_nicht | THAT sounds dirty: |
| 18:41.35 | buu | ckknight: What the heck does that mean? |
| 18:41.44 | ckknight | not sure |
| 18:42.03 | Ellipsis | Rayden: yeah but you're at school now aren't you? |
| 18:42.06 | Rayden | yes |
| 18:42.08 | Rayden | in new york |
| 18:42.12 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 18:42.14 | buu | ckknight: It returns a 'configuration table' |
| 18:42.34 | buu | type = 'group', name = L["foo.."], and so on. |
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| 18:43.20 | Rayden | stupid patch |
| 18:43.48 | Bejitt | ckknight: is there any documentation on making PB layouts? |
| 18:43.59 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 18:44.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm too lazy to /join #norganna, what's the function that start's an auctioneer 4 scan? |
| 18:44.32 | Ellipsis | Bejitt: what documentation do you need? |
| 18:44.45 | Stanzilla | sag_ich_nicht: click teh butt0n |
| 18:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | that's not a function |
| 18:44.58 | Stanzilla | well just click it^^ |
| 18:44.59 | Ellipsis | read the button code to see what function it calls |
| 18:45.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Stanzilla... |
| 18:45.08 | Bejitt | j/w about the details of what you pass to PitBull:RegisterLayout means |
| 18:45.13 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't schedule a button click in chronos :P |
| 18:45.14 | Stanzilla | sag_ich_nicht: read the button code to see what function it calls |
| 18:45.25 | sag_ich_nicht | (YES I USE CHRONOS FOR SCHEDULING NOT ACEEVENT SUE ME) |
| 18:45.58 | sag_ich_nicht | actually no wait, wasn't there a click function? :X |
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| 18:46.56 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes, what i'm saying is that i'm TOO LAZY to read the source and would rather schedule button click which is, of course, more work than just looking at the code.) |
| 18:47.39 | ckknight | Bejitt, on the forum |
| 18:47.49 | Bejitt | kk |
| 18:48.05 | Ellipsis | there's still a RegisterLayout()? |
| 18:48.14 | Ellipsis | I thought the MetaLayout system replaced all that o.O |
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| 18:48.55 | Fisker- | anyone remember if the new combatlog in 2.4 will show healing and damage with more details? |
| 18:49.01 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 18:49.09 | Fisker- | let me finish! |
| 18:49.12 | Cryect | Supposed to :-p |
| 18:49.13 | Tuller | nobody knows! :) |
| 18:49.15 | Bejitt | Ellipsis: i was looking in PitBull/Layouts |
| 18:49.25 | Fisker- | Will it be able to say like "Heal for like 2000 base, got 1000heal extra for +healing stuff" |
| 18:49.32 | Cryect | Who knows |
| 18:49.34 | NeoTron | I hope bulkmail will support the new blizzard multi-item mailing API in 2.3 |
| 18:49.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: you already finished in your mom last night |
| 18:49.43 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 18:49.47 | Fisker- | it was awesome |
| 18:49.50 | Ellipsis | NeoTron, why wouldn't it? |
| 18:50.02 | NeoTron | because it needs to be programmed? |
| 18:50.09 | Fisker- | actually it doesn't |
| 18:50.12 | Fisker- | well it does |
| 18:50.14 | NeoTron | I should rephrase - I hope it supports it by the time 2.3 comes out |
| 18:50.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i hope blizzard sends me my auction wins as multimails. |
| 18:50.23 | NeoTron | last I tried on the PTR it didn't work at all |
| 18:50.23 | Fisker- | but sometimes the speed of bulkmail will confuse the default mail interface |
| 18:50.30 | Fisker- | well it worked when i tried it on the PTR |
| 18:50.34 | NeoTron | cool |
| 18:50.43 | sag_ich_nicht | it takes 5 fucking minutes to get all my mails out from the mailbox, and that's already using fucking postal |
| 18:50.48 | Fisker- | except for it would sometimes be unable to send mails because it didn't properly put it in the new windows |
| 18:50.54 | NeoTron | auctioneer downloading the whole thing in one go will be nice too |
| 18:50.58 | Fisker- | so probably will work with a minor fix |
| 18:51.04 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: YES |
| 18:51.19 | sag_ich_nicht | my wallet will EXPLODE with gold |
| 18:51.34 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: bulkmail is faster than postal |
| 18:51.41 | buu | ckknight: It's not working =[ |
| 18:51.49 | Fisker- | something else will explode with something sticky sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:51.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: faster isn't always better |
| 18:52.00 | sag_ich_nicht | you should know that |
| 18:52.01 | Ellipsis | uh... |
| 18:52.09 | Ellipsis | if you're complaining about how long it takes, then yes, it is |
| 18:52.15 | Ellipsis | it never loses mails |
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| 18:52.32 | Fisker- | the speed does cause that in the current PTR though |
| 18:52.36 | duckdodgers | hello all |
| 18:52.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:52] <Ellipsis> if you're complaining about how long it takes, then yes, it is <--not neccesairly either |
| 18:52.44 | sag_ich_nicht | you should know THAT too |
| 18:52.45 | Fisker- | but it should definitely be fixable |
| 18:52.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 18:52.54 | NeoTron | bulkmail feature I like the most is auto-mailing of items, for sure |
| 18:53.04 | buu | ckknight: Is there any specific point I would need to add my 'blankSpace2' to make it show up in the list? |
| 18:53.17 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r53529 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: |
| 18:53.17 | CIA-7 | ItemBonusLib: |
| 18:53.18 | CIA-7 | _ esES locale, big thanks to bailon. |
| 18:53.18 | CIA-7 | _ made rating patterns possible in multi-bonus lines. |
| 18:53.20 | ckknight | no, I don't know |
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| 18:55.00 | buu | ckknight: Would you mind taking a look at my crude hackjob? |
| 18:55.50 | sag_ich_nicht | actually getting cut with a scalpel doesn't hurt much, movies just lie about it because it looks cool. |
| 18:56.14 | buu | http://erxz.com/pb/5040 |
| 18:57.17 | sag_ich_nicht | people think scalpel cut=razor cut or paper cut, which isn't true at all 8D |
| 18:57.45 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: FIX MY CODE. |
| 18:57.54 | sag_ich_nicht | buu: SUCK MY COCK |
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| 19:00.28 | Dustwhisper | any dps mortal strike warrior that can hook me up with some good armory/talents for our guild DPS warr ? |
| 19:02.15 | Ozguli | AHAHAH |
| 19:02.20 | Ozguli | sorry |
| 19:02.35 | Ozguli | I've heard only bad about them |
| 19:02.42 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper, for pve go fury tbh |
| 19:03.14 | Ozguli | friend left a guild after some "high-end" mage there said "So this MS warrior kept overdpsing me..." |
| 19:03.25 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r53530 10CatPoints/Toskk.js.txt: |
| 19:03.26 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 19:03.26 | CIA-7 | - Added the latest version of Toskks calculator for comparison. |
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| 19:09.35 | buu | What is this 'extraFrames' thingy? |
| 19:09.58 | buu | MetaLayout = { extraFrames = {} } |
| 19:12.10 | buu | Ohhhh |
| 19:12.11 | buu | I'm closer. |
| 19:12.14 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.23 | buu | I've got a second blank space thingy showing up. |
| 19:12.34 | buu | But it's not in my list of thingies. |
| 19:12.44 | buu | I mean, my actual unit frame has the second blankf rame. |
| 19:12.53 | buu | But when I go to the list of bars below player |
| 19:12.56 | buu | It isn't there. |
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| 19:15.39 | Dustwhisper | cncfanatics he wanted to try MS to see how it buffed our melee group |
| 19:16.48 | buu | I feel like I'm so close. |
| 19:17.12 | Ozguli | ms doesn't buff melee I think |
| 19:17.24 | Ozguli | btw you should really try this out :O |
| 19:17.30 | Ozguli | I'm typin with 2 separate keyboards |
| 19:17.50 | Ozguli | one for left hand other for the right |
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| 19:26.41 | buu | Ozguli: WHY ISN'T THIS WORKING. |
| 19:27.17 | Ozguli | your code? No idea... |
| 19:27.43 | Ozguli | but 2 usb keyboards should work fine together |
| 19:28.24 | Dustwhisper | Is there any raid template addon? Something that you can pre-create raidsetups and have it invite everyone or even have say you want 2 priests and add names of priests that youd want for those two spots then have it invite 2 of the online ones |
| 19:32.26 | Ozguli | wouldn't it be a "bot program" ? :P |
| 19:32.46 | Ozguli | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1301732816823417152&q=70+warrior&total=1293&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=9 |
| 19:32.59 | Ozguli | nelf powah, man that warrior has some high crits |
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| 19:34.56 | Ozguli | 4k white, 10k something else |
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| 19:41.30 | Ra1d3n | 5000ap |
| 19:41.32 | Ra1d3n | my ass |
| 19:41.35 | Ra1d3n | hacked server |
| 19:43.11 | Ozguli | might be with all possible buffs ;) |
| 19:43.17 | Ozguli | anyway :P |
| 19:43.24 | Ozguli | ok 5000 ap my ass too |
| 19:43.45 | Ozguli | 2k.. okay, 3k... okay as well, 4k, pretty damn high |
| 19:44.28 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53531 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:44.28 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:44.28 | CIA-7 | - Fix for GUI when certain recipes are hidden (should fix tailoring issue where you can't see missing recipes past 300 with default configuration options) |
| 19:44.49 | Ra1d3n | even with 1xcrusader and 1xlionheart proc, i dont believe he got 5000 |
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| 19:45.25 | Ra1d3n | and he does a lvl 62 instance on lvl 70 |
| 19:45.33 | Ra1d3n | thats why he crits so much |
| 19:45.35 | kebinusan | gee theres a soundtrack Ive never heard in a video before |
| 19:46.40 | Ozguli | I test my max dmg against critters... |
| 19:46.57 | Ozguli | some real challenge getting 5 combo points as rogue :P |
| 19:47.07 | Ozguli | considering they have 1 hp |
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| 19:50.21 | NightHawkAtWork | Ozguli: do you actually manage to? :P |
| 19:50.29 | Ozguli | yes |
| 19:50.32 | Ozguli | with great difficulty... |
| 19:50.43 | Ozguli | 2 or 3 cheap shots, depends on talents |
| 19:50.58 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, i figured it had to be some kind of CS magic. |
| 19:51.10 | NightHawkAtWork | that's vaguely impressive. |
| 19:51.12 | Ozguli | just have to wait until the critter goes out of combat, and preferably raid mark it because they RUN |
| 19:51.29 | Ra1d3n | the warrior from the video has 1600 ap |
| 19:51.37 | Ra1d3n | unbuffed |
| 19:51.42 | Ra1d3n | hardly impressive |
| 19:51.58 | Ra1d3n | 30,77% crit |
| 19:52.09 | Ozguli | my rogue had 1337 AP unbuffed, bit over 30% crit |
| 19:52.10 | Ra1d3n | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Alkander |
| 19:52.19 | Ra1d3n | warriors have more ap |
| 19:52.24 | Ra1d3n | usually |
| 19:52.27 | Ozguli | sure they do |
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| 19:54.34 | Zhinjio|sleep | ~seen ckknight |
| 19:54.35 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 31m 43s) #wowace (2h 31m 43s). Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 1h 1m 15s, last said: 'no, I don't know'. |
| 19:55.59 | Zhinjio|sleep | would anyone care to load what I've got of my addon so far? My guildie was able to produce an error that I simply cannot make happen. |
| 19:56.12 | ZealotOnAStick | !c us blackhand Tenebra |
| 19:56.15 | ThraeBot | ZealotOnAStick: Tenebra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (44/0/17). 10220 HP; 8695 Mana; 129 mana regen; 189 spell crit; 223 spell hit; 1083 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1137); 268 shadow dmg (1351); 4.68% dodge; 17 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1369 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2eu9u9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2phefl ][ Updated: Tue Oct 30 12:00:06 2007 EST ]] |
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| 19:58.08 | Crysli | Hey |
| 19:59.46 | RogueShadow | !c us Azshara Xelis |
| 19:59.49 | ThraeBot | RogueShadow: Xelis, Level 51 Blood Elf Rogue (11/31/0). 2541 HP; 440 AP; 116.000 Melee DPS; 16.75% melee crit; 27.65% dodge;[[ TBR: 477 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2aec8r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vllcz ][ Updated: Tue Oct 30 12:03:41 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:59.53 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53532 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:59.53 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:59.53 | CIA-7 | - Fix for trade skill speciality filtering (works on the Master Hammersmith I tested with) |
| 20:00.24 | Crysli | I'm looking for an addon that will let me turn my character in Dressing Room by dragging my mouse instead of pressing the buttons. |
| 20:00.49 | Crysli | That's the only thing I'm using Skinner for, and it's sort of a waste to use such a big addon for just that. |
| 20:06.19 | buu | Yay, wow realms! |
| 20:06.36 | buu | They live once more. |
| 20:08.51 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r53533 10CatPoints/CatPoints.lua: |
| 20:08.51 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 20:08.51 | CIA-7 | - fixed a typo I missed in my last checkin |
| 20:12.19 | the-golem | EWWWWWWW |
| 20:12.40 | the-golem | i just DL the EQ1 trial, for kicks and giggles |
| 20:12.50 | the-golem | unfortunately, i got neither :-( |
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| 20:15.33 | CIA-7 | 03rabbit * r53534 10FreeRefills/FreeRefills.lua: FreeRefills: Bugfix. |
| 20:16.13 | xyu | Hmm i'm going to start a hide and seek game in orgrimmar. |
| 20:17.08 | Crysli | Sounds like fun. |
| 20:17.17 | Hjalte | <Jump for spout> isn't such a bad guild name, is it? |
| 20:17.33 | Killmore2 | xyu /target + mind vision 4tw |
| 20:18.13 | Zhinjio | question about Dewdrop: Is it possible to control which frame the menu parents to? Also, is strata? |
| 20:18.32 | xyu | There would have to be some rules. |
| 20:18.37 | Zhinjio | I've now got a second person who is seeing the problem I can't reproduce, and it seems to be putting the menu BEHIND my main frame. |
| 20:18.39 | xyu | like no getting on top of org etc. |
| 20:18.45 | xyu | or under the city |
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| 20:21.49 | Pkekyo | why would one have to emphasize that snow is _white_? |
| 20:22.16 | haste | because it might as well be yellow! |
| 20:22.21 | haste | (it can be beer you know) |
| 20:22.24 | Stanzilla | or brown |
| 20:22.43 | haste | or black |
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| 20:26.49 | CIA-7 | 03diablohu * r53535 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua): |
| 20:26.49 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:26.49 | CIA-7 | - zhCN update |
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| 20:29.29 | kadrahil | durcyn: aren't you on mal'ganis? |
| 20:30.05 | kadrahil | there was a level 8 draenei warrior north of sen'jin, some level 5 warrior tried to kill her and failed |
| 20:30.08 | kadrahil | i roffled |
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| 20:38.31 | durcyn | kadrahil: no, i'm on turalyon us |
| 20:39.03 | CIA-7 | 03stalake * r53536 10GearEvaluator/ (GearEvaluator.lua GearEvaluator.toc): GearEvaluator: First working version |
| 20:40.10 | kadrahil | durcyn: ... oh |
| 20:40.25 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: hola |
| 20:40.31 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: hey |
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| 20:40.41 | JoshBorke | how're your alts coming |
| 20:40.53 | JoshBorke | gd dragons in BEM |
| 20:40.56 | kadrahil | they're multiplying |
| 20:41.00 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 20:41.08 | kadrahil | i've turned into a chronic alt roller |
| 20:42.36 | Xelopheris | Don't you love it when you have so much to drink you have trouble standing up? |
| 20:42.41 | Xelopheris | Thank god for chairs |
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| 20:44.14 | stavmar | silly question...You have a mediocre computer about 4-5 years old and you are a raid leader, what mods do you have running as to not kill your performance, specifically FPS? |
| 20:44.19 | Zhinjio | can't make it happen on the PTRs either. this is frustrating as fuck. |
| 20:44.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Xelopheris: yes, chairs are a wonderful invention |
| 20:44.34 | Ellipsis | stavmar: new computar imo |
| 20:44.41 | stavmar | Ellipsis: fair enough |
| 20:45.01 | stavmar | it is just driving me crazy, one day it flows the next it blows |
| 20:45.11 | stavmar | never ending cycle it seems |
| 20:45.22 | NightHawkAtWork | eh, a 4-5 year old computer, with relatively decent ram/gpu upgrades shouldn;t have too big an issue with wow, even running a fair bit of mods |
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| 20:46.19 | Ozguli | more than 512M ram and better than an integrated graphics chip and will do fine |
| 20:46.47 | stavmar | I am running at 3GB with an Nvidia AGP 6800 card, should be sufficient |
| 20:46.58 | Zhinjio | More than. |
| 20:47.09 | Ozguli | I'm running... can I spam a bit? |
| 20:47.21 | Ozguli | two lines |
| 20:47.26 | stavmar | Every graphics setting is at the lowest setting and still averaging 10FPS sometimes in Shatt and AV |
| 20:47.46 | Ozguli | 02(CPU202) Genuine Intel® CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz @ 798MHz (FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO Pro Edition V3505 mainboard) 02(RAM02) 512MB, 188.11MB free 02(HDDs02) 55.8GB, 17.4GB free |
| 20:47.46 | Ozguli | 02(VGA202) Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family (128MB) 02(OS02) Microsoft Windows XP Professional (SP2), 1w 3d 5h 46m 53s uptime, 1w 6d 21h 35m 2s uptime record |
| 20:48.01 | Ozguli | as you see this is a business laptop |
| 20:48.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Shattrath and AV arn't really good benchmarks. those places just suck |
| 20:48.28 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: are u there? |
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| 20:48.43 | Stanzilla | or any other dev |
| 20:48.48 | Ozguli | I do fine in arena with some addons disabled, 1280x800 resolution... |
| 20:48.55 | Stanzilla | Antiarc cladhaire [Ammo] ? |
| 20:49.10 | cladhaire | ? |
| 20:49.30 | Antiarc | ? |
| 20:49.47 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, ? |
| 20:49.51 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 20:49.56 | JoshBorke | i'm a dev |
| 20:49.58 | Stanzilla | someone broke Babble-Tradeskill |
| 20:50.03 | Stanzilla | it's not even loading |
| 20:50.04 | Antiarc | Not it |
| 20:50.06 | JoshBorke | not it |
| 20:50.13 | Zhinjio | hahaha. |
| 20:50.25 | Zhinjio | thats hilarious. |
| 20:50.27 | cladhaire | okay.. I have absolutely nothing to do with it, sorry |
| 20:50.37 | cladhaire | not even sure why i was pinged O.o |
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| 20:50.40 | Zhinjio | its like a bunch of kids fighting over who gets to ride shotgun. |
| 20:50.58 | Obelix | Hello |
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| 20:54.30 | cncfanatics | (21:53:59) Obelix: Hello |
| 20:54.30 | cncfanatics | (21:54:28) Obelix left the room. |
| 20:54.31 | cncfanatics | lol |
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| 20:54.37 | Obelixprime | I was wondering if someone could point me to a good NECB wowace replace |
| 20:54.43 | Obelixprime | i had to change my name :P |
| 20:54.48 | Obelixprime | didn't want to do it in channel |
| 20:55.03 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/imageboardView.php?id=2793 hahahahah (NSFW) |
| 20:55.09 | Ozguli | like people don't want to undress public? |
| 20:55.16 | Ozguli | makes sense, in a way... |
| 20:55.39 | Ellipsis | I knew sag_ich_nicht was into the loli |
| 20:55.50 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 20:55.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not |
| 20:56.50 | sag_ich_nicht | click the link anyway |
| 20:56.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i lol'd |
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| 20:57.20 | CIA-7 | 03ominous 07Ace3 * r53537 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer/ (9 files in 2 dirs): ClassTimer: All options now done |
| 20:57.52 | Ellipsis | that's pretty hot sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:57.52 | Ellipsis | afk |
| 20:58.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis take pics |
| 20:58.04 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 20:58.19 | Ellipsis | lol |
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| 20:58.49 | sag_ich_nicht | didn't know you were bi :P |
| 20:58.52 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53538 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 20:58.52 | CIA-7 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:58.52 | CIA-7 | - Added Balanced Shadow Draenite |
| 20:59.34 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: for the companion cube, I'm *tri* |
| 20:59.41 | cncfanatics | not enough skin on that picture, sag_ich_nicht |
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| 21:00.50 | CIA-7 | 03ackis * r53539 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 21:00.50 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 21:00.50 | CIA-7 | - Added Balanced Shadow Draenite to enUS |
| 21:00.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: oh lawd |
| 21:01.07 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 21:01.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll go shower now |
| 21:01.11 | sag_ich_nicht | bbl |
| 21:01.51 | Stanzilla | sag_ich_nicht: take pics |
| 21:01.59 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe. |
| 21:02.03 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:02.17 | sag_ich_nicht | *afk* |
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| 21:04.21 | LAG|Domo | Illidan Down!! |
| 21:04.23 | LAG|Domo | Yesss |
| 21:04.30 | tinyboom | grats:) |
| 21:04.59 | Obelixprime | hot |
| 21:08.13 | Kain___ | grats Domo |
| 21:08.27 | CIA-7 | 03ominous 07Ace3 * r53540 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.toc oldopts): ClassTimer: oops add options file to toc |
| 21:17.48 | Grum | rawr 8% Vashj |
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| 21:18.15 | Stanzilla | LAG|Domo: gratz! |
| 21:20.09 | Grum | grats LAG|Domo :D |
| 21:20.20 | LAG|Domo | Thanks ^^ |
| 21:21.52 | Zhinjio | will the OptionalDeps and X-Embeds lines in the TOC generally be the same if you're using all Ace/Rock libs? |
| 21:25.56 | kadrahil | man, orcs are freakin cool |
| 21:26.02 | kadrahil | i wish i had rolled orc as my first toon |
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| 21:27.52 | cncfanatics | kadrahil, agree :p |
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| 21:29.45 | stavmar | If prat is too much for a user what chat mod do you usually recommend? |
| 21:29.55 | cncfanatics | prat with modules u don't need disabled |
| 21:30.06 | NivFreak | I'm still using chatmod |
| 21:30.10 | NivFreak | I need to try out prat |
| 21:30.17 | Zhinjio | same |
| 21:30.27 | chexsum | being able to se buffs on enemies is stupid |
| 21:30.29 | Ellipsis | stavmar: some of the lighter options include PhanxChat and idChat (both on wowi) |
| 21:30.46 | Ellipsis | there's also mumble |
| 21:31.06 | stavmar | ok, i used id chat in teh past and moved to prat for ease of updates. |
| 21:31.14 | stavmar | Mumble? On wowi as well? |
| 21:31.34 | Ellipsis | I think it's on wowi, yeah |
| 21:31.39 | Ellipsis | you can get it from chuckg's site as well |
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| 21:37.01 | stavmar | Ellipsis: no TabNameCompletion with mumble, like that feature is that available from the other mods you mentioned? |
| 21:37.52 | Ellipsis | why does everyone want that so much? o.O |
| 21:38.04 | Ellipsis | I don't know of any of the simpler chat mods that have that feature, sorry |
| 21:38.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: being able to type only 3-4 characters for a full name is pretty nice. :P |
| 21:38.56 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork: o rly? |
| 21:39.00 | Ellipsis | (see what I did there) |
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| 21:39.16 | Ellipsis | (well I guess you don't since you can only assume that I tab-complete on IRC) |
| 21:39.27 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, I assume everyone does. |
| 21:39.52 | Ellipsis | I do it on IRC when people have insanely long nicks like yours |
| 21:40.02 | Ellipsis | but I never feel the need to have it ingame :/ |
| 21:40.02 | NightHawkAtWork | otherwise I might feel bad about having such a long nick ;) |
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| 21:40.20 | NightHawkAtWork | I don't have it in-game, and havn't really needed it, but i can see why people want it. |
| 21:40.58 | stavmar | some of us cannot type and any help is nice... |
| 21:41.16 | NivFreak | threat reductions are additive, right? |
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| 21:42.25 | Fisker- | no NivFreak |
| 21:42.31 | NivFreak | oh |
| 21:42.32 | Fisker- | there are some exceptions though |
| 21:42.43 | Fisker- | But mostly it's multiplicative |
| 21:42.57 | NivFreak | trinkets being the exception? |
| 21:43.17 | Fisker- | there was this trinket that was totally overpowered because it would reduce your aggro so much it would produce negative aggro |
| 21:43.20 | NivFreak | I was trying to figure out what sort of threat a tank would have to push to allow a rogue 2000DPS |
| 21:43.23 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:43.50 | Fisker- | that was of course factoring salvation, talents and so on |
| 21:43.59 | Fisker- | It was mages if i recall correctly |
| 21:44.06 | Fisker- | their arcane explosion produced negative threat |
| 21:44.12 | Fisker- | thus no issue for tanks to keep aggro |
| 21:44.22 | NivFreak | heh |
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| 21:48.35 | Nocts | What's the command to check a player from armory here? |
| 21:50.25 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.54 | Nocts | !c us Lethon Constance |
| 21:50.55 | ThraeBot | Nocts: Constance is not the character you are looking for! |
| 21:52.04 | RaydenUni | are heroics much more of a pain than KZ? |
| 21:52.05 | Fisker- | Thrae |
| 21:52.14 | Fisker- | can i get a *jedi mindtrick* ? |
| 21:52.21 | Zhinjio | !c us Hellscream Zhinjio |
| 21:52.23 | ThraeBot | Zhinjio: Zhinjio, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (0/49/12). 11627 HP; 5013 Mana; 96 mana regen; 12 mp5; 14352 Armour; 566 AP; 85.900 Melee DPS; 4.61% melee crit; 13 melee hit; 217 +spell dmg/heal; 360 defense; 16.38% dodge; 23.42% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 425 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dhpoo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o4ua3 ][ Updated: Tue Oct 30 13:56:15 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:52.25 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: didn't u ask that same question like 3 days ago? |
| 21:52.29 | RaydenUni | mm |
| 21:52.30 | RaydenUni | i do'nt think so |
| 21:52.41 | Nocts | ~tbr |
| 21:52.42 | purl | tbr is probably ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 21:52.44 | Nocts | ~define tbr |
| 21:52.45 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 21:52.48 | RaydenUni | threabot is back? |
| 21:52.49 | RaydenUni | cool |
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| 21:53.25 | RaydenUni | hmm, well i gotta go now |
| 21:53.26 | Zhinjio | neat. |
| 21:58.44 | Pkekyo | anyone here good at configing mstsc? |
| 21:59.00 | sag_ich_nicht | herro |
| 21:59.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i serr those fine reather jackets |
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| 21:59.50 | Pkekyo | guess that |
| 22:00.01 | Pkekyo | s/guess that/guess that's a no then..?/ |
| 22:00.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i use parrot |
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| 22:00.44 | Morghus | Is there a WIM alternative around? I tried it today, and it was kind of like carrying a huge lump of gold; worth loads, but I'd prefer a credit card! :p |
| 22:00.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Morghus: telltrack |
| 22:01.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i like telltrack better anyway |
| 22:01.32 | Morghus | *checks it out* |
| 22:01.34 | sag_ich_nicht | only problem is crossrealm whispers in BGs are a bit wonkey(i.e. they don't work) |
| 22:02.15 | sag_ich_nicht | actually you'll only find outdated versions on addon sites Morghus, lemme give you a link |
| 22:02.29 | Morghus | Most kind of you |
| 22:03.06 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.cosmosui.org/files/addons/TellTrack.zip |
| 22:03.20 | Morghus | Telltrack, sarf's old addon? |
| 22:03.20 | sag_ich_nicht | or, if you want more information, here: http://www.cosmosui.org/addons.php?info=TellTrack |
| 22:03.26 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 22:03.28 | sag_ich_nicht | updated tho |
| 22:03.48 | sag_ich_nicht | (quite a bit, that is) |
| 22:04.09 | sag_ich_nicht | (in before someone flames cosmos and i point out that telltrack is standalone) |
| 22:04.17 | Morghus | Haha |
| 22:04.26 | Morghus | Who cares. Good addon's a good addon |
| 22:04.27 | Morghus | :) |
| 22:04.38 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 22:04.41 | sag_ich_nicht | SOME people here care |
| 22:04.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Morghus: guess you used telltrack before? :P |
| 22:05.06 | Morghus | And if you know the right things you know that the pope shits in the woods |
| 22:05.07 | Morghus | :p |
| 22:05.18 | Morghus | I did, in WoW beta or something. I found it a tad clunky |
| 22:05.33 | sag_ich_nicht | well it works better now |
| 22:05.35 | Morghus | Or rather, I hated the box that accompanied it. Unsure now actually. |
| 22:05.53 | sag_ich_nicht | well the box is still there, altho you could kill it |
| 22:05.59 | sag_ich_nicht | (which wouldn't be of any use) |
| 22:06.00 | Morghus | Will install it and try. Too much crap around the WIM for me to want to use it |
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| 22:06.13 | Zhinjio | are there any ingame functions that return a unix-format-like timestamp? |
| 22:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | (you can hide the border of the box btw.) |
| 22:06.40 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53541 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/ (4 files): LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: Drycoded update of Babble-Inventory-2.2. Made it less wishy-washy. |
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| 22:07.07 | Morghus | There's some pretty stupid options in WIM too -.- |
| 22:07.57 | Morghus | "Would you like to have more info on the person you're whispering?" ..."No"..."You can have some anyways"... |
| 22:08.38 | sag_ich_nicht | well, telltrack gives you a normal default WoW chatframe, if you attach it to the main chatwindow it will even put the chattarget to the person who's conversation you currently have "active" when you press enter. and if you switch between people in the list it clears the backlog and writes the log you have with the person you clicked in the list. |
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| 22:09.53 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53542 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: Add svn:keywords. |
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| 22:10.13 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53543 10AutoBar/ (11 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:10.13 | CIA-7 | AutoBar: |
| 22:10.13 | CIA-7 | -- 2.02.03.19 beta () |
| 22:10.13 | CIA-7 | -- Switch from swapping buttons to moving them |
| 22:10.13 | CIA-7 | -- Show Empty Buttons now shows Category icons if available |
| 22:10.13 | CIA-7 | -- Show Button Name while in move mode |
| 22:10.17 | CIA-7 | -- Autocreate default (Hearth) category for new custom buttons |
| 22:10.31 | Morghus | I think the only things I really like about WIM is the tabbed stuff and the separate window. |
| 22:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 22:11.34 | sag_ich_nicht | well telltrack gives you that too, except it's not tabbed, it's just a list of people and if you click them the content of the chatframe changes |
| 22:12.22 | Morghus | sounds like the addon I remember |
| 22:12.23 | Industrial | DING 51 AV TIME |
| 22:12.32 | Morghus | Congratulations Industrial |
| 22:12.38 | Industrial | :-) |
| 22:12.51 | Ellipsis | grats Industrial, didn't think you had it in ya <3 |
| 22:12.57 | Morghus | Hmm... a telltrack like addon with minichat support. Would be <3 |
| 22:14.15 | Ellipsis | wouldn't be hard to modify MiniChat to do the TellTrack windows too, I'd imagine |
| 22:14.24 | harldephin | my AuldLangSyne doesn't work |
| 22:14.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 22:14.56 | Stanzilla | Babble-Tradeskill is broken..that's even worse |
| 22:15.05 | Kemayo | harldephin: Errors? |
| 22:15.15 | Morghus | Ellipsis: That'd be pretty badass |
| 22:16.49 | Cheads | kemayo it just doesn't enable the AuldLangSyne_FriendList LoD .. if you enable it manually then it works =) |
| 22:17.17 | Kemayo | Cheads: Ah, okay. I'll have to fix that when I have a moment. |
| 22:17.38 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:12] <Industrial> DING 51 AV TIME <--holy fucking SHIT |
| 22:17.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't believe it |
| 22:17.49 | sag_ich_nicht | industrial reached a level that allows him to go to AV |
| 22:17.50 | NivFreak | can a WF proc trigger heroic strike? |
| 22:18.14 | Toadkiller | lol grats! |
| 22:18.37 | harldephin | Kemayo: nope. no errors. |
| 22:18.41 | dylanm | omg capture some graveyards indy |
| 22:19.17 | Kemayo | harldephin: Try what Cheads suggested and manually enable the FriendList module? |
| 22:19.39 | Morghus | sag_ich_nicht: Ah. It's limited to clicking the button, and lacks "auto-tabs". That's what I wanted from WIM. "...the tabbed stuff and the separate window" :p |
| 22:19.48 | Zhinjio | Is there an Ace Library that provides time functions? |
| 22:20.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Morghus: yes. rightclick the buttons |
| 22:20.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:20.20 | NivFreak | Does it seem plausable that a tank could sustain 1500TPS on void reaver? |
| 22:20.23 | Toadkiller | Speaking of leveling, whats the developer server everyone hangs out on? |
| 22:20.34 | NivFreak | (a warrior) |
| 22:20.48 | harldephin | Kemayo: it doesn't list any modules. there's only a "AuldLangSyne" and then "Profiles", but nothing to setup at all |
| 22:21.17 | Toadkiller | niv, a snigle tank can not, thats why you have mutliple tanks going for aggro on it. Aggro will switch between them |
| 22:21.26 | Kemayo | harldephin: Okay, I'll look into that when I can get to a computer with WoW. |
| 22:21.29 | Kemayo | Ow. |
| 22:21.47 | Lukian | oh you are present! excellent |
| 22:22.00 | Morghus | sag_ich_nicht: I did. I would've loved telltrack if I didn't desire the tabbed windows of WIM, and separate window more in the alley of auto-switching to history when whispering. |
| 22:22.10 | Lukian | Kemayo, ToFu crashes WoW. |
| 22:22.33 | Kemayo | Lukian: Can you get me a particular flight point that it happens on? |
| 22:22.35 | Morghus | sag_ich_nicht: TellTrack'll hold for now though. Thanks :) |
| 22:23.02 | Lukian | auberdine to desolace I believe was one of them |
| 22:23.16 | Lukian | should I send you my savedvariables for it to inspect? |
| 22:23.34 | Kemayo | Yes, please. A list of other addons you have might be helpful, as well. |
| 22:23.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Morghus: well change the code i guess :P |
| 22:23.47 | NivFreak | Toadkiller: take a look at this WWS, I'm trying to figure out if it's faked |
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| 22:24.00 | Lukian | Kemayo, I was pondering that it might be visualthemes, or automaton |
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| 22:24.11 | NivFreak | http://wowwebstats.com/d3dsefv51ses5?s=20310-20692&m |
| 22:24.22 | NivFreak | it seems fishy |
| 22:24.27 | NivFreak | but I haven't put my finger on it yet |
| 22:25.11 | Lothaer | hey, does any1 know if theres a mod that will let me buyout multiple auctions at once? |
| 22:25.39 | NivFreak | I'd love that |
| 22:25.39 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:25.51 | weab | someone's been screwing with automaton |
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| 22:25.59 | Silviu- | Lukian u use VisualThemes ? |
| 22:26.01 | weab | added some module that probably shouldn't exist |
| 22:26.06 | Lukian | Silviu-, yeah |
| 22:26.10 | Silviu- | Lukian it is vt |
| 22:26.16 | Silviu- | just update it |
| 22:26.17 | Silviu- | :) |
| 22:26.19 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: yes fecking yes |
| 22:26.20 | weab | i need to revert all that crap and clean it up |
| 22:26.24 | Silviu- | Or disable Npc frames |
| 22:26.27 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: im getting my crossbow WEWT |
| 22:26.33 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 22:26.42 | Lukian | Kemayo, I think Silviu- just solved it :) |
| 22:26.43 | Silviu- | I had that problem too till i narrowed it down to VT :) |
| 22:26.44 | PProvost | Does anyone know which (if any) of the ItemBonusLib identifiers corresponds to Feral Combat Skill? I"m not seeing one. |
| 22:27.11 | Kemayo | This is why IRC is a great support medium. :D |
| 22:27.52 | Silviu- | Lukian i asked the author to try fix it and he disabled the NPC frames by default, so u just need to update it :) |
| 22:28.35 | Lukian | k, I'm reinstalling it, (occasionally my addons don't get overwritten properly for some reason when updating) |
| 22:28.55 | PProvost | nvm... found it... CR_WEAPON_FERAL looks right |
| 22:30.11 | Lukian | Groovy, I'll let people know if I have any more issues :) |
| 22:30.39 | Kemayo | Much better. |
| 22:31.05 | Zhinjio | question: what would y'all consider accceptable spelldmg for boomkin wanting to go into kara. |
| 22:31.13 | Morghus | Anyone up for making a better WIM? ;P |
| 22:31.30 | Lukian | Zhinjio, ~600, though I don't know much :p |
| 22:31.52 | Lukian | 800 should be pretty easy, no? |
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| 22:32.14 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53544 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: Experimental change at a fix for enrage wierdness/seeing phase 1 messages in phase 2 |
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| 22:35.21 | Zhinjio | lua> blort = date("*t") |
| 22:35.21 | cladbot | Zhinjio: |
| 22:35.31 | durcyn | Funkeh`: have you had much chance to test the prismatic shield timers on shahraz? |
| 22:35.39 | Zhinjio | lua> blort = date("*t"); print( blort.year ) |
| 22:35.39 | cladbot | Zhinjio: 2007 |
| 22:35.43 | Zhinjio | excellent. |
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| 22:35.58 | Funkeh` | durcyn, I did her last week, but made some changes since then, still on my rset timer, why? |
| 22:36.00 | durcyn | Funkeh`: the durations were being added to the bars instead of replacing them when we cleared bt last week |
| 22:36.18 | Pkekyo | anyone know what the next BG weekend will be? |
| 22:36.26 | Funkeh` | um |
| 22:36.32 | durcyn | Funkeh`: when she did the same shield twice in a row |
| 22:37.02 | Funkeh` | So on the 2nd time around you saw a 20 second bar? |
| 22:37.06 | Funkeh` | 30* |
| 22:37.13 | Funkeh` | but 15 first time around? |
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| 22:37.46 | durcyn | i don't recall the exact times, but there was a good 5-10 seconds of overlap on the next debuff t imer |
| 22:37.49 | durcyn | timer* |
| 22:38.08 | Funkeh` | You are sur this only happened on twice in a row timers? |
| 22:38.15 | durcyn | Yes, that was my experience |
| 22:38.24 | durcyn | should be at her again today, I'll take another gander |
| 22:39.04 | Funkeh` | SOunds kinda odd ;p |
| 22:39.38 | durcyn | indeed! |
| 22:39.51 | durcyn | who knows, I may have been drinking at the time. |
| 22:39.58 | dodga | Okay, maybe somebody here has a clue what to do with my problem... I got a database dump with mixed UTF8 and Latin1. I want to either convert everything to UTF8 or to Latin1 (but I'd like to know which data sets have lost characters that could net get converted) |
| 22:40.10 | dodga | Anything I tried ended up in double encoded or partially corrected data :\ |
| 22:40.45 | Funkeh` | durcyn, in how many hours is your next attempt at her? |
| 22:41.12 | durcyn | Funkeh`: probably four, haven't started BT yet this week |
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| 22:43.08 | Funkeh` | durcyn, I'll add a bar stop atm tot he current version, make sure you update after I do it and tell me if it still happens, I will do some further testing myself tomorow |
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| 22:43.15 | durcyn | Funkeh`: kk |
| 22:43.49 | Pkekyo | fucksake...it's impossible to find -real- aXXo rips nowadays |
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| 22:46.25 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53545 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: Possible fix for bar wierdness |
| 22:47.35 | many | best alterac evva |
| 22:47.47 | many | 2 minutes in, ally wins. |
| 22:47.50 | many | (yes, me is ally. ;-) |
| 22:48.10 | Funkeh` | durcyn, should be up in +/-20min |
| 22:52.13 | durcyn | Funkeh`: eh, grabbed it from svn. will let you know what happens. |
| 22:52.23 | Funkeh` | fair enough |
| 22:54.35 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53546 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: "Armor" and "Weapon" types. |
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| 23:04.56 | Erica | AuldLangSyne broken with last update? |
| 23:05.36 | Kemayo | Erica: I've heard complaints. I won't be able to check into them until I find myself at a computer with WoW installed, so another hour or so. |
| 23:06.10 | Erica | It seems to load the shell... but no modules or anything load. |
| 23:06.32 | Erica | Thanks |
| 23:06.59 | Erica | It's one of the mods I love and I miss it a lot when it breaks |
| 23:10.50 | Pkekyo | would it be extremely wrong to compare two pieces of gear by adding up the statpoints you benefit and turn the result into "benefit points"? :p |
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| 23:11.40 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo, probably |
| 23:12.00 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: howso? |
| 23:12.03 | Ellipsis | not all stats are equally useful |
| 23:12.37 | Ellipsis | get something like ItemValue and use modifiers for how desirable each stat is |
| 23:12.55 | Ellipsis | that will probably give you a better idea of which items are better and by how much |
| 23:12.58 | Pkekyo | true, but only comparing the stats that both items got? I'm only trying to figure out what major upgrade to go for first |
| 23:13.06 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo 07dev * r53547 10BankStack/ (BankStack.toc core.lua): BankStack: Merge trunk changes to dev branch. |
| 23:13.19 | Stanzilla | Kemayo: will addons that need Babble-2.2 use version 3 if 2.2 is not installed? |
| 23:13.54 | Pkekyo | also: is the prices for non set s3 epics known? |
| 23:14.03 | Pkekyo | (ie: belt/bracers/boots) |
| 23:14.29 | Zhinjio | can a STATIC_POPUP just return a value instead of having to call some other function? |
| 23:14.51 | Zhinjio | for example, in the EditBoxOnEnterPressed or OnAccept methods? |
| 23:15.13 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: even that's not necessarily useful... e.g. I'd give up 5 int for 5 spell damage in a heartbeat, the damage is way more valuable to me even though the numbers are the same |
| 23:15.17 | Kemayo | Stanzilla: Not by default, I believe. If you have Babble-2.2-Compat then some will. |
| 23:15.54 | Stanzilla | Kemayo: is there a plan to replace 2.2 with 3.0? or will both continue to exist? |
| 23:16.59 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: sure, but I'm not comparing two future upgrades directly with eachother...it's about arena gear... comparing stats on shoulders to current shoulders, and legs to current legs.... adding the difference together, shouldn't it give a pretty decent idea of which one would be more benefitial? |
| 23:17.27 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo 07dev * r53548 10BankStack/core.lua: |
| 23:17.27 | CIA-7 | BankStack: Drycode |
| 23:17.27 | CIA-7 | -Sorting. This is probably so very broken. |
| 23:17.27 | CIA-7 | -Localized messages. |
| 23:17.38 | Pkekyo | meh, I'm just confusing myself here |
| 23:17.40 | Kemayo | Stanzilla: I believe ckknight's intention is for 3.0 to slowly replace 2.2. |
| 23:18.24 | Kemayo | 3.0 has the advantage of not having any dependencies (i.e. no ace2 required). |
| 23:19.05 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 23:19.15 | Stanzilla | I will ask ckknight for his plans when he returns :) |
| 23:20.37 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: well I don't know anything about PvP gear but the point is x points in one stat is not necessarily equal to x points in another :P |
| 23:21.07 | Diao | upgrades are global |
| 23:21.08 | Pkekyo | true |
| 23:21.12 | Ellipsis | it will give you a *rough* idea of which is overall better |
| 23:21.15 | Ellipsis | but it won't be terribly accurate |
| 23:21.16 | Diao | helm legs chest are all the same upgrades of the same stats |
| 23:21.21 | Diao | shoulders and gloves are slightly less |
| 23:21.28 | Diao | bracers belt boots all have the same exact upgrades as well |
| 23:21.45 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: gladiator shoulders are ahead of legs by 100 points |
| 23:22.09 | Ellipsis | oh, wait, you're comparing different slots against each other? |
| 23:22.15 | Ellipsis | that's going to be *really* off o.o |
| 23:22.18 | Pkekyo | no |
| 23:22.46 | Pkekyo | I'm comparing gladiator legs to current legs and gladiator shoulders to current shoulders, to figure out if the gladiator legs ore the gladiator shoulders would benefit me the most |
| 23:22.57 | Pkekyo | Diao: I don't currently have any gladiator gear at all |
| 23:23.05 | Kemayo | tinyboom: Give me about 50 minutes and I'll have it fixed. :P |
| 23:23.07 | Pkekyo | s/ore/or/ |
| 23:23.14 | tinyboom | Kemayo: <3 for you:) |
| 23:23.30 | Pkekyo | auldlangsyne broken? |
| 23:23.33 | Ellipsis | I see, Pkekyo...I guess that makes some sense then |
| 23:24.13 | Diao | oh |
| 23:24.15 | Pkekyo | s3 chest came out as 2090 points better than my current chest :p |
| 23:24.27 | Kemayo | Pkekyo: So I hear. |
| 23:24.38 | Pkekyo | haven't noticed anything |
| 23:24.44 | Pkekyo | maybe I should start updating addons again |
| 23:24.49 | tinyboom | Kemayo: a little request, class coloring on the chat tab too, if possible at all, though that might be icky since it probably would have to /who all the people in the channels...... |
| 23:25.06 | Pkekyo | tinyboom: l2prat? :> |
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| 23:25.24 | Kemayo | tinyboom: I view that as being a job for a chat addon -- simpleChat or Prat. |
| 23:26.25 | Pkekyo | goddamn tabloid piece of crap...one of todays newspaper headlines: "Drink milk or DIE!" |
| 23:29.39 | tinyboom | using prat; was thinking of the voip chat tab :) |
| 23:29.59 | Pkekyo | wait, what? anyone actually using the ingame voip crap? |
| 23:30.18 | tinyboom | only to keep track of people in the custom channels I have:p |
| 23:30.36 | tinyboom | only good thing about it atm:p |
| 23:30.59 | tinyboom | Pkekyo: I'm gonna die.......I hate milk:p |
| 23:31.36 | Pkekyo | you're norwegian, aren't you? |
| 23:32.04 | Ellipsis | milk is icky |
| 23:32.15 | Pkekyo | if so: the article's on the front page of vg.no , if memory serves |
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| 23:32.18 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: I concur |
| 23:32.38 | Pkekyo | I'd rather drink sand on a daily basis tbh |
| 23:33.18 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: eww, you actually read vg? >_> |
| 23:33.18 | JoshBorke | i love milk |
| 23:33.22 | JoshBorke | especially chocolate milk |
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| 23:33.43 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: when extremely bored at school....yup... |
| 23:34.11 | Pkekyo | though I tend to sod about on dART lately instead >.< |
| 23:34.38 | Ellipsis | that's probably better for your brain |
| 23:34.46 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 23:35.17 | Pkekyo | but hell...some times I just feel like seeing an airplane crash or people crushed to death...then vg is teh win |
| 23:35.46 | CIA-7 | 03jncl * r53549 10Skinner/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:35.46 | CIA-7 | Skinner: Skinned AceProft, TourGuide & HealersAssist (thanks to chris_de) |
| 23:35.46 | CIA-7 | - Removed FuBar_Durability skin as it no longer required |
| 23:35.46 | CIA-7 | - Resized Auction House Level EditBoxes |
| 23:35.54 | baer_ | is there ANY way to see ALL debuffs in pitbulls "focused target" ? |
| 23:36.06 | Ellipsis | disable debuff filtering on the focus fram, baer_ |
| 23:36.14 | Ellipsis | and Pkekyo, american tabloids are way better :P |
| 23:36.49 | Pkekyo | and db.no is really entertaining at times, there's always some heated debate between straight up commies and bush-dicksuckers |
| 23:37.11 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: I tend to steer clear of as much of american media as I possibly can |
| 23:37.56 | Ellipsis | well, I do too :P |
| 23:38.28 | Pkekyo | but hey, if I ever want shit for brains I'll head for american tabloids asap |
| 23:39.12 | Pkekyo | 3hrs left until hitman blood money is ready for play |
| 23:39.18 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 23:39.24 | Pkekyo | haven't slept for about 60hrs |
| 23:39.28 | Pkekyo | school at 8.15 |
| 23:39.36 | Pkekyo | tough choise |
| 23:39.41 | tinyboom | Pkekyo: aye, I am:) |
| 23:40.38 | Pkekyo | sod it, I'm off...g'nite all |
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| 23:42.11 | tinyboom | Ellipsis: you norwegian? or was it a regular eww statement about norwegian newspaper tabloids? :p |
| 23:42.12 | baer_ | Ellipsis: i can't find debuff filtering for the focus frame. |
| 23:42.26 | aestil | Ellipsis: you're an irc whore! |
| 23:42.42 | tinyboom | ain't we all aestil:p |
| 23:42.51 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 23:42.59 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: that would imply she costs money |
| 23:43.01 | Pkekyo | well, I'm off for real now...honest! |
| 23:43.11 | aestil | wow. |
| 23:43.23 | aestil | that was just my somewhat friendly way to say hi to her. but yikes. |
| 23:43.35 | aestil | anways, i have a new raid screenshot |
| 23:45.11 | baer_ | aestil: url? |
| 23:45.19 | aestil | ~image hosting |
| 23:46.19 | aestil | it shows me using recount, which i was using for testing purposes, i think i will opt out of it though. it confirmed that SWS somehow combines the data from SW:D that I do to the mob, as well as the damage I do to myself. |
| 23:46.28 | aestil | stupid purl |
| 23:46.35 | aestil | ~screenshot hosting |
| 23:46.44 | aestil | ~hosting |
| 23:46.45 | purl | [hosting] at http://www.visionhost.net, or http://internetconnection.net |
| 23:47.04 | aestil | ~screenshot |
| 23:47.04 | purl | from memory, screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 23:47.04 | baer_ | Ellipsis: found it, my problem was that it only showed 6 debuffs. :) |
| 23:47.37 | aestil | ~imageshack |
| 23:47.50 | aestil | daaaaaaaamnnnnit |
| 23:47.55 | aestil | what is the image hosting place? |
| 23:48.23 | aestil | ~where can i host screenshots? |
| 23:48.46 | baer_ | imageshack.us for example. |
| 23:49.40 | Ellipsis | tinyboom: I'm not norwegian, but I used to read vg to practice my norwegian :P |
| 23:49.48 | Ellipsis | aestil: no u |
| 23:50.12 | aestil | why does purl hate me? where is there image hosting? |
| 23:50.15 | Ellipsis | also, tinypic is teh best image host, bayimg is a close second |
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| 23:50.22 | Nocts | ~tbr |
| 23:50.23 | purl | [tbr] ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 23:50.37 | baer_ | aestil: try imageshack.us. |
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| 23:51.30 | aestil | NOOOOO |
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| 23:52.26 | tinyboom | Ellipsis: ahhh, kk:) |
| 23:53.01 | aestil | http://i17.tinypic.com/5379jyw.png |
| 23:53.20 | aestil | omg, it resized the freaking imag |
| 23:53.26 | aestil | son of a bitch |
| 23:53.28 | Ellipsis | no it didn't? |
| 23:53.32 | Ellipsis | your browser probably did |
| 23:53.37 | aestil | no |
| 23:53.45 | aestil | image 1600x1000 |
| 23:54.14 | Ellipsis | I've never had tinypic resize on me |
| 23:54.21 | Ellipsis | did you copy the right image link? |
| 23:55.08 | Ellipsis | oh, and what's that pretty DPS graph from? o.O |
| 23:55.42 | aestil | http://bayimg.com/NAHCkAaBN |
| 23:55.43 | JoshBorke | recount |
| 23:55.50 | JoshBorke | aestil: i got my trinket :-D |
| 23:55.50 | aestil | recount is fail though. |
| 23:55.55 | aestil | grats JoshBorke |
| 23:56.13 | JoshBorke | i'm up to 1025 shadow damage |
| 23:56.14 | aestil | recount feels unfinished and poorly constructe. |
| 23:56.32 | aestil | just happens to be very useful, overall i will not be loading it up anymore. |
| 23:56.47 | JoshBorke | you should report specific bugs to cryect |
| 23:56.56 | aestil | very nice. i think i'm at 1070 unbuffed, with a blessings deck [basically another 80 once the fight starts] |
| 23:56.56 | Ellipsis | I need something graphical like that to test out my DoT rotations :( |
| 23:57.07 | aestil | recoutn will work just fine for you then Ellipsis |
| 23:57.09 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude * r53550 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: Add bloodboil counter, counts 1-3 for groups 1-3 |
| 23:57.11 | aestil | cyrect is gone. |
| 23:57.12 | Ellipsis | I'm just barely off 1k right now |
| 23:57.30 | JoshBorke | Cryect: i heard you were gone |
| 23:57.38 | Ellipsis | like, if I could afford my runic spellthread, I'd have 996 :'( |
| 23:57.50 | aestil | i need orb of soulcaller, and then badges for that wand. |
| 23:58.04 | aestil | freaking hell, in that thread they say that recount is 'dead' |
| 23:58.19 | aestil | it hasn't been materially updated for a very long time. |
| 23:58.27 | Ellipsis | does it sync? |
| 23:58.30 | Eggi | assessment feels somehow a bit better then recount... and also the values are normaly nearly the same as from synced sw-stats... which is not always the case with recount |
| 23:58.30 | *** join/#wowace Cryect2 (i=Cryect@pool-71-182-173-235.pitbpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:58.32 | Ellipsis | and if so, can that be disabled? |
| 23:58.37 | aestil | it does, but sync'ing is overrated. |
| 23:58.45 | Lukian | DeuceLog doesn't work properly :( |
| 23:58.45 | aestil | yes it can be disabled. |
| 23:58.59 | Ellipsis | yeah, I don't want to be spamming data everywhere |
| 23:59.44 | Lukian | i like violation :) |
| 23:59.57 | Lukian | It 'listens' to data from swstats and such |
