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| 00:01.52 | Fin | little annie walks into the kitchen and says, "mummy, billy's dingdong is like a peanut" |
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| 00:02.06 | Fin | mummy says "aw, you mean it's small?" |
| 00:02.15 | Fin | little annie says "no, it's salty" |
| 00:02.21 | kaiden | lol |
| 00:02.21 | Pkekyo | lmfao |
| 00:02.23 | rawrrawr | Anyone else having a problem with omen and not being able to see anyone else? |
| 00:02.36 | rawrrawr | starting to think its a problem with the Wowace updater |
| 00:02.48 | Fin | what on earth would WAU have to do with that? |
| 00:02.52 | rawrrawr | i dunno |
| 00:03.02 | rawrrawr | but it works fine until i start updating using WAU |
| 00:03.10 | Fin | doesn't seem at all likely to me... |
| 00:03.16 | Fin | but, hey |
| 00:03.23 | rawrrawr | and the only way I have been able to fix it, Delete entire Addons and WTF folder |
| 00:03.36 | rawrrawr | this has been going on for about 2 months |
| 00:03.44 | Fin | does WAU actually update omen? |
| 00:03.44 | rawrrawr | constantly resetting my ui |
| 00:03.47 | Pkekyo | rawrrawr: then the only thing remaining for you is to set sail 4 fail |
| 00:03.48 | rawrrawr | yeah |
| 00:03.57 | Fin | do you think that perhaps it's actually just the latest verison of omen that's the problem? |
| 00:03.58 | rawrrawr | LOL pkekyo |
| 00:04.09 | rawrrawr | no, even tried with setting old versions |
| 00:04.33 | Fin | but, I mean, you've tried updating to the latest version manually, right? |
| 00:04.36 | Pkekyo | well, Omen does in no way directly influence omen |
| 00:04.49 | Pkekyo | it just grabs the latest version from the server and stuffs it in your addons dir |
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| 00:05.06 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r655 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (Alliance/28_29_Duskwood.lua TourGuide.toc): 28_29_Duskwood.lua added for testing. not in .toc |
| 00:05.26 | rawrrawr | yeah, even tried doing manually and deleting the saved vars |
| 00:05.45 | Pkekyo | like I said: set sail 4 fail |
| 00:06.06 | CIA-7 | 03darchon * r53408 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: koKR Update |
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| 00:06.11 | rawrrawr | like I said, its a weird thing with it |
| 00:06.19 | rawrrawr | no one else I know has this issue |
| 00:06.41 | aestil | i still don't exactly understand what tourguide is for? is it like, load up the appropriate zone, and it tells you who to talk to, then what to kill, then where to turn in, etc... for the whole zone? |
| 00:06.54 | Pkekyo | no offens meant, but it sounds like some sort of PBCAM |
| 00:07.19 | rawrrawr | PBCAM? |
| 00:07.35 | Pkekyo | Problem Between Chair And Monitor |
| 00:07.39 | rawrrawr | LoL |
| 00:07.50 | Pkekyo | :p sorry, just had to |
| 00:07.52 | Orionshock | PEBKAC is the term :P |
| 00:08.01 | rawrrawr | no problem at all |
| 00:08.15 | rawrrawr | i actually figured out when it started |
| 00:08.30 | Orionshock | "PEBKACs is often caused by ID10T Errors" |
| 00:08.39 | rawrrawr | was when Omen got submitted to the the Ui.worldofwar.net updater |
| 00:08.48 | rawrrawr | and I let it update once |
| 00:08.57 | rawrrawr | fubar'd since then |
| 00:09.04 | CIA-7 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r656 10/trunk/TourGuide/TourGuide.toc: Whops, now it is gone from .toc |
| 00:09.09 | rawrrawr | reset entire ui and it worked fine |
| 00:09.23 | rawrrawr | then WAU started giving me the issue |
| 00:11.47 | Fin | but |
| 00:12.01 | Fin | if you already updated it to the latest version manually... |
| 00:12.21 | rawrrawr | I didnt update it with WAU |
| 00:12.29 | rawrrawr | and it would still be messed |
| 00:12.46 | Pkekyo | rawrrawr: only logical answer in my mind is that it's conflicting with some other addon you've downloaded/updated |
| 00:12.47 | Fin | what does it say in the way's change log summary for omen? |
| 00:13.04 | Pkekyo | I'm off to bed, g'nite all |
| 00:13.07 | rawrrawr | that is what I am thinking Pkekyo |
| 00:13.08 | Fin | night |
| 00:13.59 | aestil | am i right about what tourguide is for? |
| 00:14.16 | Pkekyo | rawrrawr: disable top half of your addon list, check if the problem still exists: if not, do the disable the lower half and enable top half of your list. |
| 00:14.17 | Pkekyo | when you localize the half the problem is caused in, disable the top half of that section and vice versa....rince and repeat until you've found the guilty addon |
| 00:14.42 | Pkekyo | gl hf, I'm off |
| 00:14.50 | rawrrawr | thanks pkekyo |
| 00:17.14 | Fin | I don't get this at all... you said you updated with WAU, and had problems; this was after you updated it with the ui.w updater? have you really honestly tried updating it to the latest version manually, and not experienced any problems? |
| 00:17.41 | rawrrawr | yes |
| 00:18.04 | rawrrawr | like I said, been using mods since release but I am an idiot with XML |
| 00:18.08 | Fin | how did you do that, would you mind telling me? |
| 00:18.21 | Fin | hey, me too |
| 00:18.22 | rawrrawr | if I delete my entire ui |
| 00:18.34 | rawrrawr | then manually install omen..it works fine |
| 00:18.44 | Fin | how do you manually install omen? |
| 00:18.47 | Fin | where do you download it from? |
| 00:19.16 | rawrrawr | from wowace.com |
| 00:19.49 | Fin | what's the name of the file you've downloaded? hope you don't mind me double checking |
| 00:19.54 | Chompers | wowace updater vers: 1.9.45.711? |
| 00:20.21 | rawrrawr | yep |
| 00:20.25 | rawrrawr | .711 |
| 00:20.44 | Chompers | with or without externals |
| 00:20.48 | Fin | and the addon zip file you downloaded? |
| 00:20.51 | Chompers | +what Fin said, that's important |
| 00:21.23 | Chompers | are you updating with wow running? |
| 00:21.29 | Fin | I'm not asking just to try and catch you out or something, it might tell us what's causing your problem with omen |
| 00:21.32 | rawrrawr | not updating with wow running |
| 00:21.41 | rawrrawr | ohh fin, I dont mind at all |
| 00:21.57 | rawrrawr | the file is Omen-r53213.2.zip |
| 00:22.02 | rawrrawr | was the last one I tried |
| 00:22.17 | Fin | right |
| 00:22.21 | Fin | so when you update with WAU after that |
| 00:22.28 | Fin | what does it say in the update summary? |
| 00:22.43 | Fin | (after it's finished, go to view -> view update summary) |
| 00:22.49 | Chompers | click the 'output' tab |
| 00:22.57 | Chompers | or as fin says |
| 00:22.57 | Fin | +or do that |
| 00:23.04 | Xelopheris | I see in some screenshots with buffalo having an abbreviation of the buff name tied to the buff -- is that specific to buffalo2? |
| 00:23.14 | rawrrawr | Omen - Updated to rev WITH Externals 53213.3 |
| 00:23.53 | Fin | OK, so, either you're using the unembedded version to update, or, you're not actually updating from 53213 |
| 00:24.12 | Fin | try setting WAU to not install externals |
| 00:24.13 | Chompers | can you press F8 and tell us what's ticked |
| 00:24.17 | Fin | da |
| 00:24.43 | rawrrawr | 2,3,4 of first column |
| 00:24.53 | aestil | will recount + LibParser 4.0 play nice? |
| 00:25.06 | Fin | apparently, yes |
| 00:25.12 | Fin | with syncing disabled, at least |
| 00:25.18 | Fin | (that's what someone said, not me) |
| 00:25.34 | aestil | libparser 4.0 has fix log strings, right? |
| 00:25.56 | Fin | brb |
| 00:26.07 | Chompers | i'd suggest ticking 1/3/4 from first column |
| 00:26.17 | rawrrawr | kk |
| 00:26.42 | Chompers | and 1/2/3 from bottom right colum |
| 00:26.50 | Chompers | *column |
| 00:26.59 | rawrrawr | thanks, appreciate the help |
| 00:27.16 | Chompers | press OK then Ctrl+F10 |
| 00:28.41 | aestil | do i need recount's 'fix log strings' enabled? shouldn't libParser 4.0 have that enabled? |
| 00:29.17 | aestil | ckknight_: does libparser 4.0 have 'fix log strings'? |
| 00:29.43 | ckknight_ | disabled due to politics |
| 00:29.54 | aestil | so, i need recounts then? |
| 00:30.08 | aestil | or sws fix log strings enabled, or something. |
| 00:30.14 | Fin | there's one easy way to find out |
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| 00:30.25 | aestil | fin, i don't truely understand what the 'fix log strings' does. |
| 00:30.57 | Fin | aestil: I think you should try see what the stats look like with it enabled, and with it disabled |
| 00:31.13 | Fin | I have no idea, personally |
| 00:31.14 | aestil | if you check/uncheck it will change the meters? |
| 00:31.16 | Fin | although |
| 00:31.26 | Fin | I don't know - that's why I'm suggesting you try it |
| 00:31.37 | Fin | to answer the question |
| 00:31.54 | Fin | there is a thread here that you might find edifying: http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t13567-recount_graphical_damage_meter_raid_analysis_tool/ |
| 00:32.38 | Pkekyo | ....so much for getting any sleep... |
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| 00:33.50 | rawrrawr | ok, i am going to give this a try |
| 00:33.53 | Pkekyo | wtb a new back |
| 00:33.58 | rawrrawr | thanks so much for your help guys |
| 00:33.58 | Chompers | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17022-warrior_dps_spreadsheet_2_3_beyond/ |
| 00:34.05 | Chompers | no sleep for you Pkekyo |
| 00:34.44 | Pkekyo | Chompers: none at all |
| 00:35.03 | Fin | good luck, rawrrawr |
| 00:35.34 | Pkekyo | a shame deviantART's so dead this time of night |
| 00:37.46 | Gngsk | anyone know where the recipe for spicy hot talbuk is found? |
| 00:38.10 | Pkekyo | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=43765 |
| 00:38.43 | Pkekyo | " |
| 00:38.44 | Pkekyo | This recipie is obtained via the daily cooking quests, available from The Rokk in Lower Shattrath City. |
| 00:38.44 | Pkekyo | " |
| 00:38.56 | Pkekyo | patch 2.3 |
| 00:39.00 | Gngsk | k, thx |
| 00:39.03 | Gngsk | that's what I figured |
| 00:40.05 | JoshBorke | hm, CF 1 or CF 2? |
| 00:40.19 | Pkekyo | JoshBorke: err? |
| 00:41.29 | Gnarfoz | cf = clearfont |
| 00:41.33 | Gnarfoz | and I'd say 1 |
| 00:41.35 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 00:41.41 | Pkekyo | in that case: 1 > 2 |
| 00:42.23 | Chompers | good luck rawrrawr |
| 00:44.21 | aestil | i couldn't see what the fix log strings was doing. |
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| 00:46.39 | Fin | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2297/1600383696_5c2e9e94d3.jpg |
| 00:47.05 | aestil | i don't see the syncing or no syncing option for recount |
| 00:47.17 | Fin | what version are you using |
| 00:47.22 | aestil | i specifically want to make it not sync, to test it vs sws, which is sync'd with most eveyrone in the raid. |
| 00:47.27 | aestil | newest? |
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| 00:47.34 | aestil | just ran WAU 10 minutes ago. |
| 00:47.37 | Fin | you said that with a question mark |
| 00:47.49 | aestil | i read change log that said it was gonna be sync enabled by default, but i can't find a way to disable it. |
| 00:48.07 | Fin | there wasn't a way previous to that update |
| 00:48.19 | Fin | have you restarted wow |
| 00:48.23 | ZealotOnAStick | simply type /recount sync |
| 00:48.34 | ZealotOnAStick | recountfu doesn't have anything for it. |
| 00:48.57 | aestil | i wasn't looking at recountfu. its not in the recount config [seems like thats where it would be] thanks zealot. |
| 00:49.12 | aestil | fin, i read that change log several days ago. |
| 00:49.16 | Fin | oh, the fubar addon isn't dynamically generated? naughty |
| 00:49.29 | Fin | oh, the update was only yesterday |
| 00:49.32 | aestil | well, the recount config window |
| 00:49.35 | aestil | ok, yesterday. |
| 00:49.40 | aestil | several WAU runs ago ;) |
| 00:49.44 | Fin | righto |
| 00:50.10 | aestil | so, i'd like to use the graph, to see a chart of raid dps, how to enable that option? |
| 00:50.22 | Fin | hahah |
| 00:51.42 | aestil | wiki wins |
| 00:51.46 | aestil | thats alot of slash commands though :) |
| 00:51.46 | Ellipsis | aestil zomg I got Quag's eye <3 |
| 00:51.55 | aestil | ./recount realtime raid dps |
| 00:52.00 | aestil | Ellipsis: win for warlocks. |
| 00:52.04 | Ellipsis | yarly! |
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| 00:52.10 | aestil | your SB's make your DOT's tick for more basically, right? |
| 00:52.18 | Ellipsis | now I just need about a zillion more badges for my icon |
| 00:52.27 | Ellipsis | er, other way around |
| 00:52.28 | aestil | does it proc off of partial resists Ellipsis ? |
| 00:52.31 | Ellipsis | dot apps make my SBs spam faster |
| 00:52.37 | Ellipsis | quag's is the spell haste proc? |
| 00:52.39 | aestil | oh. |
| 00:52.44 | aestil | i wias thinking mag's eye |
| 00:52.47 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 00:52.48 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 00:52.55 | aestil | mags eye > quag's eye. |
| 00:53.00 | aestil | i wanted only the best for you. |
| 00:53.04 | Ellipsis | aww |
| 00:53.09 | Ellipsis | you still fail :) |
| 00:53.19 | aestil | i pass that mag trinket to every warlock in the raid. |
| 00:53.26 | aestil | and glare at mages who want it. |
| 00:53.28 | Ellipsis | I srsly want it |
| 00:53.30 | Ellipsis | but oh well |
| 00:53.44 | Ellipsis | my guild can't even down the channelers let alone mag |
| 00:53.49 | aestil | i want an epic flyer |
| 00:53.52 | aestil | whaaaa? |
| 00:54.02 | Wobwork | I want an epic flyer =( |
| 00:54.04 | aestil | well, my guild isn't that special. |
| 00:54.14 | Ellipsis | I went with them for their attempt at it the other day and was one of the *two* warlocks there for it |
| 00:54.15 | Wobwork | actually let me rephrase |
| 00:54.15 | aestil | we got to mag 1 week before they nerf'd him. |
| 00:54.21 | Wobwork | I want an epic flyer for all my characters |
| 00:54.23 | Ellipsis | so....inferals were GG |
| 00:54.31 | aestil | Ellipsis: we only bring 2 locks. |
| 00:54.35 | Wobwork | cause I know as soon as I get one for my main... nothing will be fast enough on the rest |
| 00:54.38 | Ellipsis | I just want an epic flyer for my main :( |
| 00:54.41 | aestil | we also kill all the channelers before mag pops. |
| 00:54.48 | Ellipsis | aestil: we don't |
| 00:54.58 | Arrowmaster | wow our raids are so hostile right now |
| 00:55.00 | Ellipsis | mag pops with 1-2 channelers up and ~5 people dead |
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| 00:55.07 | aestil | lol @ 5 people dead. |
| 00:55.16 | aestil | whats killing people? |
| 00:55.17 | Arrowmaster | 2 arcane mages, 1 fire mage, 4 warlocks, 1 moonkin druid |
| 00:55.21 | Ellipsis | no clue |
| 00:55.25 | Arrowmaster | and we wont put CoE up for the fire mage |
| 00:55.27 | Ellipsis | SB volleys I guess |
| 00:55.30 | Arrowmaster | so hes pissed |
| 00:55.35 | aestil | hunters should be dropping traps to help with infernals |
| 00:55.37 | Ellipsis | and the infernals eat the healers |
| 00:55.40 | aestil | Ellipsis: why are SB volleys getting off? |
| 00:55.44 | Ellipsis | aestil: hunter* |
| 00:55.53 | Ellipsis | uh, because nobody bothers interrupting them? |
| 00:55.58 | aestil | oh. |
| 00:56.02 | aestil | well, then thats fail. |
| 00:56.08 | Ellipsis | my guild is made of lose and fail, what do you expect |
| 00:56.21 | aestil | my guild is full of lose and fail on KT right now. so i know the feeling. |
| 00:56.48 | aestil | also, Ellipsis i tempt you. |
| 00:56.52 | aestil | Ellipsis: TEMPT |
| 00:57.13 | Pkekyo | fucking swedish tossers spamming AV chat >.< |
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| 00:58.56 | Gagorian | My guild is made of fail cause illidan has dropped the fucking bow 6 times |
| 00:59.09 | Gagorian | It's a bad joke already :( |
| 00:59.26 | Ellipsis | aestil: /cast Tempt Ward (Rank 6) |
| 01:01.05 | aestil | Gagorian: not that its that simiilar, but i killed prince about 25 times, and the priest token droped once, and the caster dagger never dropped. |
| 01:01.25 | Pkekyo | you need 10 arena matches done to get points, no? |
| 01:01.31 | aestil | no. |
| 01:01.37 | aestil | your team needs 10 |
| 01:01.40 | aestil | you need 30% of that. |
| 01:01.48 | aestil | so if your team plays 10, and you play 3, you get points. |
| 01:01.53 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 01:05.34 | Pkekyo | why the hell would someone be doing naxx now? O.o |
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| 01:09.03 | Jaxon | I haven't been keeping up to date with common interface issues, but I just had disconnect and not able to reconnect while the raid was in combat and were able to get back in once we wiped. Reminds me of the unitframes setup thing from a while ago, but removing them from the raid didn't help. |
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| 01:40.34 | CIA-7 | Skillet: |
| 01:40.34 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:40.34 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:55.57 | Orionshock | hehe... got it to work |
| 01:56.35 | Orionshock | now all i have to figure out is how to get string to variable to work |
| 01:56.48 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 01:57.46 | Orionshock | say you set an ace options table up, and instead of using an inline function for the execute type you pass it a string that is the function u want it to call |
| 01:58.01 | Orionshock | that's do able right? |
| 01:58.02 | theoddone33 | at one point in my life |
| 01:58.06 | theoddone33 | I wanted to level a warlock to max |
| 01:58.15 | Xinhuan | i don't think so |
| 01:58.18 | theoddone33 | just so I could be the only warlock on the server that doesn't spam stupid shit to say when he summons |
| 01:58.21 | Xinhuan | you'll have to make a function wrapper |
| 01:58.32 | Xinhuan | but |
| 01:58.50 | Xinhuan | you can do execute = _G["myfunctionname"], |
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| 01:59.07 | Xinhuan | assuming "myfunctionname" is the string that describes your function and is in global space |
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| 01:59.24 | Orionshock | or accessable by the global namespace |
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| 02:01.14 | Orionshock | well how bout some context here: several threads have been made about profile sharing, well i just ~sorta worked out the logic / functions to make it work. where you pull the profile of choice and push it do a different SV, then copy it back in. |
| 02:01.32 | Orionshock | granted it forces you to know the context of where your copying and pasting from but still. |
| 02:02.19 | Xinhuan | well i think the thing you assign to execute has to be a function |
| 02:02.26 | Xinhuan | so if you need to, dynamically create that function |
| 02:02.32 | Xinhuan | (make a function closure) |
| 02:03.18 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.27 | Orionshock | mod[event]() |
| 02:03.34 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 02:03.40 | Orionshock | nmd |
| 02:03.58 | Xinhuan | mod[event]() is exactly the same as mod.event() |
| 02:04.13 | Orionshock | um... Xinhuan yes but no |
| 02:04.25 | Xinhuan | and mod.event(self, ...) is the same as mod:event(...) |
| 02:04.35 | Orionshock | as you've written it it's wrong but i understand what u mean |
| 02:04.53 | Xinhuan | its kinda wrong since event is a variable |
| 02:04.56 | Xinhuan | but you get the idea |
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| 02:05.40 | Orionshock | but actualy i dont' need a function i need a variable/table path |
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| 02:06.06 | Orionshock | because i don't want to store the table it'self, i just want to know where it is |
| 02:08.43 | Xinhuan | still no idea what yuo're talking about :) |
| 02:08.50 | Orionshock | hehe |
| 02:08.50 | MentalPower | me neither |
| 02:08.51 | Xinhuan | in relation to your original question |
| 02:08.55 | Orionshock | i m a bit confused myself |
| 02:10.09 | MentalPower | if you want to do something like _G["SomeTable.foo.bar.baz"] (where you finally get the contents of baz thats inside bar thats inside foo thats inside SomeTable) you need to pre-parse the string into something Lua can understand |
| 02:10.44 | Xinhuan | you can only assign a function to execute i think |
| 02:10.49 | Orionshock | idea is to attach the pair of functions i have to slash commands |
| 02:10.51 | MentalPower | either by splitting by "." and walking the table structure, or by using loadstring() |
| 02:11.03 | Xinhuan | so whatever the case, you need to dynamically make that function that refers to that table |
| 02:11.11 | Orionshock | slash commands will pass a string not the table |
| 02:11.37 | Orionshock | i need to pull the location of the table out of the string and get the table |
| 02:11.51 | Xinhuan | good luck! |
| 02:11.59 | Orionshock | & i think i just figured out how... |
| 02:13.14 | MentalPower | Orionshock: the best way is to split by "." and walk the segments |
| 02:13.48 | Orionshock | why walk the segments? if the table isn't there then the one using the slashcommand is dumb |
| 02:14.27 | Xinhuan | slash commands aren't the friendliest things in the world |
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| 02:14.45 | MentalPower | perhaps a pastey is better to illustrate |
| 02:14.47 | Orionshock | ok, so regex the string from the slash command and do a dest = _G[tablePath] |
| 02:14.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Funkeh` [Ammo] or vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/76094 |
| 02:15.18 | Xinhuan | you still need to walk the path to ensure that each step of "tablePath" exists |
| 02:15.26 | Xinhuan | or you'll need to define your own error handler to catch the error |
| 02:15.33 | Xinhuan | and make it not conflict with bugsack, swatter, etc |
| 02:16.07 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.13 | Xinhuan | can't do that |
| 02:16.23 | Orionshock | why not? |
| 02:16.24 | MentalPower | Orionshock: http://ace.pastey.net/76095 |
| 02:16.45 | Xinhuan | because it doesn't |
| 02:17.03 | Orionshock | hold up here, that's not an answer |
| 02:17.10 | Xinhuan | all you're doing is looking up inside _G["abc.def.ghi"] |
| 02:17.15 | Xinhuan | and seeing if that string index exists |
| 02:17.21 | MentalPower | cause you can't do _G["Foo.Bar.Baz"], doing that will get the element in the global table thats called "Foo.Bar.Baz" |
| 02:17.30 | Xinhuan | it dosen't look for _G["abc"]["def"]["ghi"] |
| 02:17.35 | Xinhuan | as you might expect |
| 02:17.39 | Orionshock | that's the idea |
| 02:17.43 | Xinhuan | well you can't |
| 02:17.48 | MentalPower | what Xinhuan said |
| 02:17.59 | Xinhuan | you have to check that _G["abc"] exists before you can even check if _G["abc"]["def"] exists |
| 02:18.06 | Xinhuan | or you will get a nli error |
| 02:18.08 | Xinhuan | nil* |
| 02:18.18 | Xinhuan | because the thing doesn't resolve |
| 02:18.24 | Orionshock | oh ok.. now i understand |
| 02:18.28 | Xinhuan | for you to even pass it to type() |
| 02:19.12 | Ellipsis | WTB tank for heroics :( |
| 02:19.56 | Orionshock | ok, another question, AceDB2, standard practice to put all profiles inside the *.profiles table key? it's going to reiliably be there? |
| 02:20.08 | Xinhuan | not everyone uses acedb that way |
| 02:20.11 | Xinhuan | or use default keys |
| 02:20.23 | Xinhuan | heck i dont even use acedb because all the metatable nonsense is crap |
| 02:20.29 | Xinhuan | in order to generate default values |
| 02:20.48 | Xinhuan | the values dont' actually exist, they are only they when you try to refer to them directly and the metatable points to the default data table |
| 02:21.24 | Orionshock | ok... time for someone to tell me that im doing something bad here.... |
| 02:22.02 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/76096 |
| 02:22.08 | Orionshock | always seems to happen... |
| 02:22.10 | Orionshock | :( |
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| 02:22.49 | CIA-7 | SCT_Cooldowns: |
| 02:22.49 | CIA-7 | - add koKR locale |
| 02:23.18 | Xinhuan | when you RegisterDefaults() it creates a series of tables and metatables that points to the default tables |
| 02:23.18 | Xinhuan | but the actual data doesn't really exist so you can't loop through it with pairs() |
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| 02:24.05 | Xinhuan | hence when you assign db.profile.blah = SomeTableYouCreated |
| 02:24.05 | Orionshock | the idea is that the table will already exist as an established profile. |
| 02:24.21 | Xinhuan | that SomeTableYouCreated doesn't have the metatables attached to it that could refer to db.defaults |
| 02:24.25 | Xinhuan | if those values already exist |
| 02:25.23 | Orionshock | you have a point there |
| 02:25.38 | Xinhuan | also by copying the tables over in your function, your meta tables didn't get changed either |
| 02:25.46 | Xinhuan | they will still point to the old stuff |
| 02:25.54 | Xinhuan | its just way too convoluted |
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| 02:26.48 | Orionshock | aye that it is |
| 02:27.07 | Orionshock | but meta tables arn't saved to SV are they? |
| 02:27.25 | Orionshock | functions are not saved in SV's |
| 02:27.30 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 02:27.50 | Orionshock | so when you reload your UI the nested metatables are gone anyways |
| 02:27.50 | Xinhuan | if you have a savedvar point to a function |
| 02:28.01 | Xinhuan | i believe it is saved |
| 02:28.41 | Xinhuan | in whatever bytecode or address, its about the same mistake new addon writers make in making their savedvar the same variable as their addon object |
| 02:29.00 | MentalPower | functions are not saved |
| 02:29.35 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: i did that with my first one... ya .. it fucked up alot of things |
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| 02:30.23 | Xinhuan | in any case, even if functions are saved, they cannot be loaded, i think slouken added in stuff so that any function declarations/code will not execute when loading a SV |
| 02:30.42 | Xinhuan | so you can't modify your SV file yourself to add in a function |
| 02:30.57 | Orionshock | right so the meta tables are gone, |
| 02:30.59 | MentalPower | actually you can,if the SV is an AddOn SV |
| 02:31.06 | Orionshock | they are gone once you reload ur UI |
| 02:31.10 | MentalPower | if its a Blizz SV you can't |
| 02:31.26 | Xinhuan | isn't that behavior changed? |
| 02:31.34 | Xinhuan | slouken posted something a week ago |
| 02:31.39 | MentalPower | AddOn SV's are executed by the Lua engine, Blizz SVs are parsed by a blizzard-made parser |
| 02:32.04 | Xinhuan | he challenged anyone to try and make functions run from a SV file or something |
| 02:32.28 | Orionshock | iirc SV files on load are executed as lua code; but when the game exits and writes those SV to file, if the key is a function then it's not saved |
| 02:33.16 | Xinhuan | anyway, its still quite convoluted |
| 02:33.21 | Xinhuan | what exactly are you trying to do in your addon? |
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| 02:34.14 | MentalPower | Orionshock: that is correct |
| 02:34.28 | MentalPower | if the SV is an AddOn's SV |
| 02:34.55 | Orionshock | what im trying at this point is to extract a specific profile from another addon and save it to it's own, then with the other func to push that profile back to the inital addon |
| 02:35.07 | Orionshock | that code works |
| 02:35.18 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/76096 |
| 02:35.30 | Orionshock | you just have to know exatly where the profile is and how to put it back |
| 02:35.40 | Xinhuan | why would you want to do this? |
| 02:36.05 | Orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9222.0;topicseen |
| 02:36.10 | aestil | is there a way to show peak dps during a previous encounter? |
| 02:36.12 | aestil | in recount? |
| 02:37.05 | Xinhuan | so you want to extract profiles out into your addon so that it has its own SV, and give this SV file to your friend to load/inject into his addons? |
| 02:37.14 | Antiarc | Peak DPS is sorta meaningless |
| 02:37.18 | Orionshock | that's the premis |
| 02:37.20 | Antiarc | Since it'll always be on the first strike of the fight |
| 02:37.31 | aestil | basically, i want to look at the peak dps for the vashj kill. |
| 02:37.32 | Xinhuan | is what i'm saying what you're trying to do? hehe |
| 02:37.34 | aestil | as a number. |
| 02:37.42 | Orionshock | yes |
| 02:37.47 | Orionshock | basicly that's it |
| 02:38.08 | Xinhuan | so the only problem is that the user must know exactly the profile table path to copy from/to? |
| 02:38.39 | Orionshock | well im just working on fundimentals here, practical method hasn't come into play yet |
| 02:39.04 | Xinhuan | are you hardcopying the table (making a dupliacate copy of the table) |
| 02:39.09 | Xinhuan | or are you just pointing a reference to it |
| 02:39.19 | Orionshock | you have to |
| 02:40.03 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: something tells me that in aceDB in the OnDisable() stage it sets the remaining defaults to the actual profile table |
| 02:40.43 | Xinhuan | i dont think it does that. acedb will never save a value that is equal to the defaults |
| 02:40.54 | Orionshock | then again there is always that idea of "If you setup a default and don't use it somewhere then why set a default" |
| 02:40.55 | silentium | the term dps refers to an integral over time, while damage is always done at certain points of time - so if you simply make the time interval shorter and shorter around one single damage timestamp (getting closer to that single moment), your damage/time calculation will grow towards infinity ;) |
| 02:42.24 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.37 | silentium | or in other words: damage/time (limes(time)->0) -> infinity |
| 02:43.22 | Orionshock | ~fail silentium |
| 02:43.22 | purl | silentium: Fail. |
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| 02:43.40 | Xinhuan | if you have a db.defaults.abc = {some table} |
| 02:43.47 | Xinhuan | and you don't have a db.profile.abc defined |
| 02:43.55 | silentium | ~yawn Orionshock |
| 02:43.58 | Orionshock | sorry the term "DPS" referes to Damage Per Second, and classicly over the duration of combat. |
| 02:43.59 | Xinhuan | then db.profile.abc will point to that defaults table |
| 02:44.10 | Xinhuan | you can check it with == operator lol |
| 02:44.38 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: correct , but when it's accessed i think the metatable creates that var inside of db.profile |
| 02:44.43 | aestil | wtb recount help! |
| 02:44.53 | Xinhuan | no the metatable doesn't create the var |
| 02:44.59 | Xinhuan | it just contains a function that returns the value |
| 02:45.02 | Xinhuan | from the defaults |
| 02:45.20 | Xinhuan | so type(db.defaults.abc) will return "table" |
| 02:45.23 | silentium | Orionshock: true, but asking for peak dps at a specific /moment/ is kinda strange, because a moment is usually defined as a very very short amount of time, if not a time singularity even |
| 02:45.41 | Xinhuan | because the function in the metatable returns db.defaults.abc when you try to index "abc" and it finds it doesn't exist |
| 02:46.28 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: so ur saying that one has to touch or change every single setting in the defaults list inorder for it to actually create the profile? |
| 02:46.34 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 02:46.43 | Orionshock | ... |
| 02:46.48 | Orionshock | sounds asinine |
| 02:46.54 | Xinhuan | __index = function(t, key) if t[key] doesn't exist, return defaults[key] end |
| 02:47.18 | Shadowed | Orionshock, DPS is essentially refered to as both damage per a second and just a general reference to damage, and requires context to figure out what someones talking about. |
| 02:47.26 | Shadowed | it's one of those things that people don't follow the exact meaning. |
| 02:47.28 | JoshBorke | i believe if (type(t[key]) == nil) then return defaults[key] end :-D |
| 02:47.48 | Xinhuan | its supposedly a feature, so that default values don't get saved in the savedvar |
| 02:48.10 | Xinhuan | so that if the author decides to change the default values |
| 02:48.10 | Xinhuan | every savedprofile gets the default value change |
| 02:48.11 | Orionshock | ... zomg Shadowed / silentium .. i was playing the context card on you when you should have played it on the guy that asked the question to begin with :P |
| 02:48.30 | Shadowed | You're the one that was trying to correct him, so you're the one it was directed at |
| 02:48.43 | Orionshock | lolz |
| 02:48.53 | Xinhuan | for example, addonA says the default width of this object is 300, but if the author changes it to 400 later, then everyone who didn't set a specific value that isn't 300 will get upgraded to 400, automatically |
| 02:48.55 | Shadowed | you were also the one who was wrong, so yes it was suppose to be directed at you |
| 02:49.13 | Xinhuan | it doesn't save the value if its equal to the defaults |
| 02:49.53 | Xinhuan | and that's really why i don't like acedb |
| 02:50.12 | Xinhuan | its use of metatables is too extensive and causes upgrade issues |
| 02:50.13 | Orionshock | ok .. i still don't see a problem |
| 02:50.20 | Xinhuan | it isn't really a problem |
| 02:50.25 | Xinhuan | its just something to consider |
| 02:50.26 | Orionshock | i don't need to scrape the defaults, they are allready provided. |
| 02:50.50 | Orionshock | if that's the case- then the meta tables MUST be established when the game loads b/c they are not saved into the SV |
| 02:51.11 | Xinhuan | defaults are supposedly a way to "upgrade" old savedvars to new versions |
| 02:51.35 | Xinhuan | say an addon adds new feature X with setting Y, then old profiles without that setting Y will have a default for it |
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| 02:52.06 | silentium | Orionshock: I dont see any need why I should have played the context card in my initial contribution, which was a rather mathematical one concerning the fact that the term "damage per second" technically refers to an integral and relies on a time to measure, so peak moments are difficult to define |
| 02:52.20 | Xinhuan | orionshock: the injection code you have must force a reloadui |
| 02:52.31 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: yes |
| 02:52.47 | Orionshock | ... silentium oy! semantics... |
| 02:52.49 | Xinhuan | so that they get saved, and reloaded with the metatables via acedb |
| 02:53.13 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: exactly - perfectly reasonable drawback |
| 02:53.36 | Xinhuan | i agree its reasonable |
| 02:53.41 | Xinhuan | since its not something you do everyday |
| 02:53.47 | Orionshock | it' |
| 02:53.53 | Orionshock | it'd be done once, |
| 02:54.08 | Orionshock | copy everything in.. reload UI, set each addon to copied in profile. |
| 02:54.19 | Orionshock | & prolly reload ui again |
| 02:54.24 | silentium | Orionshock: if ppl dont even know what they're talking about, why use language at all? we can just as well go back to "uga uga" and stone age and leave the semantics alone then, if you prefer ;) |
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| 02:54.25 | CIA-7 | SCT_SpellReady: |
| 02:54.25 | CIA-7 | - add koKR locale |
| 02:54.40 | Orionshock | ugom? |
| 02:55.19 | Orionshock | *Ughum? |
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| 02:55.41 | silentium | Uldum? |
| 02:58.22 | Industrial | Urmum |
| 02:58.23 | Industrial | ? |
| 02:58.28 | aestil | wtb recount help. pst! |
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| 03:07.27 | Xinhuan | [10/29 10:44:58] <silentium> Orionshock: true, but asking for peak dps at a specific /moment/ is kinda strange, because a moment is usually defined as a very very short amount of time, if not a time singularity even |
| 03:07.30 | Xinhuan | by the way, "dps" by definition is "damage per second" |
| 03:07.41 | Xinhuan | so asking for "peak dps" is "peak damage per second" |
| 03:07.53 | Xinhuan | so the time period is already a fixed constant of "1 second" :) |
| 03:08.03 | Antiarc | Err. |
| 03:08.08 | Antiarc | You're asking for the most damage done in 1 second |
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| 03:08.17 | Antiarc | That's just going to be when a number of concurrnt hits landed |
| 03:08.22 | Antiarc | And will be a few thousand |
| 03:08.23 | Xinhuan | that is correct, and i'm not the one requesting it ;p |
| 03:08.37 | Xinhuan | i'm just pointing out the meaningless of it hehe |
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| 03:19.01 | Silowyi | Though this conversation has already died, peak DPS generally refers to the highest recorded dps for a fight over multiple encounters. |
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| 03:23.19 | `Zypher | lol, lets all dc! |
| 03:34.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Four Horsemen down! |
| 03:34.47 | Xinhuan | although the conversation has already died, peak dps for multiple encounters is meaningless since every boss/encounter is unique :) |
| 03:35.18 | `Zypher | woot |
| 03:35.23 | `Zypher | FHM ftw |
| 03:35.36 | Xinhuan | does killing sapphiron still require heaps of FrR? |
| 03:35.50 | ZealotOnAStick | yes and no. |
| 03:35.54 | ZealotOnAStick | there's a sort of a sploit. |
| 03:35.59 | ZealotOnAStick | but he's bugged anyway. |
| 03:36.02 | ZealotOnAStick | so it sort of offsets. |
| 03:36.06 | Xinhuan | bugged? |
| 03:36.24 | aestil | Xinhuan: its not meaningless, i'm curious as to what our peak dps is, how is that a meaningless number? |
| 03:36.25 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, he does some blows up everyone in the room except for a very tiny spot thing. |
| 03:36.43 | Xinhuan | btw whats the theoretical minimum number of people needed to kill 4HM at level 70? |
| 03:36.56 | Antiarc | 1 warlock |
| 03:36.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I dunno. |
| 03:37.07 | Xinhuan | how many did you do it with |
| 03:37.07 | ZealotOnAStick | we did it with 34 and were sort of sloppy |
| 03:37.28 | Nefarion | News: The age old mystery of the Draenei ass has been solved, by Drysc: " As you can see walking around the Exodar the Draenei almost always prefer to sit on the ground. They've simply adapted to this type of reclination and have developed adequate padding to cope." |
| 03:37.34 | Xinhuan | aestil, what is your definition of peak dps? :) |
| 03:37.40 | Xinhuan | appears our definition is different |
| 03:37.56 | Brunera | on tank and one healer i gues |
| 03:38.16 | Xinhuan | won't you need at least 4 tanks and 4 healers and a couple of extra for rotation? |
| 03:38.27 | `Zypher | you need atleast 6 tanks still |
| 03:38.31 | Antiarc | Peak DPS is a meaningless number |
| 03:38.32 | rawrrawr | btw if anyone from before is on, i love you |
| 03:38.42 | Nefarion | oh baby |
| 03:38.43 | Antiarc | You're asking for a peak average |
| 03:38.55 | `Zypher | this could be four warriors and two druids who rotate in |
| 03:38.58 | `Zypher | but the dots still suck |
| 03:39.15 | Xinhuan | 5 tanks might be doable? |
| 03:39.21 | Antiarc | I do 5000000 DPS over a 0.01 sec period |
| 03:39.21 | Xinhuan | if tanks stay in for longer |
| 03:40.40 | Xinhuan | we did cleared BT trash yesterday and a lock managed to blow off a 13k curse of doom (nerf pls) and a doomguard spawned |
| 03:43.14 | Xinhuan | i would love to see a 13k curse of doom go off on a player ;p |
| 03:43.18 | Xinhuan | say in AV |
| 03:43.33 | ZealotOnAStick | we did it with 4 tanks. |
| 03:43.46 | `Zypher | how? |
| 03:43.50 | `Zypher | zerg zeliek? |
| 03:43.57 | ZealotOnAStick | you have enough DPS to blow away the first mob in time that that tank can swap with one of the other tanks. |
| 03:44.02 | `Zypher | ya |
| 03:44.02 | `Zypher | =D |
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| 03:44.03 | ZealotOnAStick | then the second can do so, etc. |
| 03:44.11 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 03:44.20 | ZealotOnAStick | we dropped thane kor'thazz in about . . . 3 marks? |
| 03:44.22 | Xinhuan | so its a tactic that's sorta doable only if you have enough dps :) |
| 03:44.40 | Xinhuan | but won't qualify for the "minimum number of people" question hehe |
| 03:45.05 | ZealotOnAStick | say a dozen healers, 4-5 tanks, dps to flavor. |
| 03:46.03 | aestil | the highest the realtime raid dps chart on recount ever got? Xinhuan |
| 03:46.41 | Xinhuan | so your definition of "peak dps" is based on full raid dps? mine was based on personal dps |
| 03:46.59 | aestil | i'm asking for peak raid dps, after the fight is already over. |
| 03:47.10 | aestil | is there a way, in recount, to mine that data |
| 03:47.21 | Xinhuan | should probably ask the recount author |
| 03:47.52 | aestil | ~seen cyrect |
| 03:47.59 | purl | i haven't seen 'cyrect', aestil |
| 03:48.08 | aestil | and, there should be peak personal dps as well, why wouldn't there be? |
| 03:48.11 | Codayus_ | Peak? So like...a rollingaverage of total raid DPS, and then find the highest value? |
| 03:48.30 | aestil | realtime raid dps is a 10second window |
| 03:48.53 | Codayus_ | That seems like a fairly...unenlightening metric... |
| 03:49.34 | aestil | why is it such a big deal, if i want to know what our peak raid dps was? |
| 03:50.00 | Antiarc | Peak DPS/10 sec is different from peak DPS :P |
| 03:50.44 | RaydenUni | any ideas why every time i get on WoW i have to turn off displaying healing? |
| 03:50.55 | RaydenUni | it shows those green + healing over everyone's head |
| 03:50.59 | RaydenUni | and it doesn't get saved |
| 03:51.07 | Xinhuan | maybe an addon is modifying it |
| 03:51.17 | RaydenUni | what would do that? |
| 03:51.23 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 03:51.32 | Xinhuan | SCT maybe? |
| 03:51.40 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 03:51.45 | RaydenUni | i'll check to see if there is an option |
| 03:52.26 | RaydenUni | also any ideas on Recount having window position issues when alt tabbing? |
| 03:52.30 | Codayus | Mmm...peak DPS doesn't kill bosses... :-) |
| 03:52.49 | RaydenUni | if i have the real time dps graph open and i alt tab it moves into the upper left corner so i can't grab it |
| 03:54.34 | Nefarion | anyone know of any nice UIs that are based around a single core bottom panel? i got some ideas for one but i need some more idea for organizing the whole... |
| 03:54.38 | Xinhuan | why does it sound like recount has a lot of issues and takes up 10x more memory than other addons to me ;p |
| 03:54.57 | Nefarion | because it needs 10x more memory? |
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| 03:57.33 | Xinhuan | peak dps is likely the time the boss goes below 20%, when everyone goes EXECUTE LOL and mages go MOLTEN FURY LOL and every shaman goes HEROISM LOL! :) |
| 03:57.51 | Nefarion | lol |
| 03:58.52 | nekoh | our shamans only go BLOODLUST LOL |
| 03:58.54 | nekoh | :X |
| 04:00.14 | aestil | recount is like in game wws Xinhuan |
| 04:00.24 | aestil | it has a retarded amount of information at its fingertips |
| 04:00.43 | aestil | like the comabat log for like 10 seconds saved right before a death, so you can know 'wtf happened' |
| 04:01.03 | Nefarion | witch hunt much |
| 04:01.12 | Xinhuan | i wrote an addon that does that and uses less than 40kb memory. |
| 04:01.24 | Nefarion | which? |
| 04:01.31 | Xinhuan | not anywhere, just for personal use |
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| 04:01.42 | Nefarion | greedy bastard *mumbles* =P |
| 04:01.44 | Xinhuan | tracks the last 100 combat log events for everyone |
| 04:01.47 | Xinhuan | in the raid |
| 04:01.47 | aestil | i don't think that it has quite the scop. |
| 04:01.49 | aestil | scope |
| 04:01.53 | aestil | of recount |
| 04:01.58 | CIA-7 | 037destiny * r53413 10SCT_SpellReady/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 04:01.58 | CIA-7 | SCT_SpellReady: |
| 04:01.58 | CIA-7 | - koKR typo fix |
| 04:02.09 | Xinhuan | and doesn't track misc stuff like VE, VT, Bloodrage, JoW, JoL, etc |
| 04:02.12 | Kalman| | Xinhuan: Sure, but your addon doesn't track combat data on the level of being able to graph instantaneous DPS for anyone in your raid over the course of a fight, etc. |
| 04:02.20 | Kalman| | It really does track a ridiculous amount of things. |
| 04:02.33 | Nefarion | shit ckk isn't on? |
| 04:02.34 | Xinhuan | yah, i'll agree recount tracks a lot of things |
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| 04:02.52 | Xinhuan | most of which aren't really useful ;p |
| 04:02.56 | Kalman| | Eh. Depends. |
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| 04:03.37 | Codayus | Hmm, tried to split a stack using Baggins and...it appears to have vanished. |
| 04:03.56 | Codayus | I don't suppose it's possible that a bug in Baggins deleted the items? :-/ |
| 04:04.01 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.09 | Nefarion | oh the item |
| 04:04.15 | Codayus | Yes... |
| 04:04.31 | Nefarion | can't help ya there. but if it was important maybe the gms can.. |
| 04:04.45 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r53414 10Fence/modules/Fence_Browse.lua: |
| 04:04.45 | CIA-7 | Fence: |
| 04:04.45 | CIA-7 | - Fence_Browse: added zhTW localization |
| 04:04.46 | Codayus | Well, it was a stack of 21 marks of the illidari, so...kinda... |
| 04:05.11 | ZealotOnAStick | aestil: Expiration |
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| 04:06.29 | aestil | Xinhuan: please, make recount more modular, so that it is possible to only use memory on what i want it to :) |
| 04:06.38 | Xinhuan | expiration is alright, but the default kinda sucks ;p |
| 04:06.40 | Xinhuan | max 10 lines |
| 04:06.57 | Nefarion | how much memory is it using? |
| 04:06.59 | Xinhuan | and doesn't filter out junk like bloodrage, JoW, JoL, blessings, etc |
| 04:07.10 | Xinhuan | mana spring |
| 04:07.52 | Xinhuan | AV should remove all/most debuffs on zoning out zz |
| 04:07.58 | Xinhuan | i almost died in IF zoning out with 6 dots on me |
| 04:08.11 | Xinhuan | after clicking "leave battleground" after losing |
| 04:08.28 | aestil | it depends on how long you keep the data |
| 04:08.34 | aestil | most of the data crawl is for the time you hold on to the data |
| 04:08.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Xinhuan: so, change the defaults? |
| 04:08.39 | Nefarion | a full average raid? |
| 04:08.50 | Xinhuan | ZealotOnAStick: the max it allows you to change to is 10 ;p |
| 04:08.55 | Killmore | w00t shahraz down |
| 04:08.59 | Xinhuan | 10 is nowhere near remotely useful, needs to be like 50 or 100 |
| 04:09.04 | ZealotOnAStick | I have mine set to 30 lines (default when I got it was 20), filters on VE and VT |
| 04:09.08 | Xinhuan | so you have to edit the LUA |
| 04:09.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Are you sure we're talking about the same mod? |
| 04:09.22 | ZealotOnAStick | because I've bloody well made those changes, in-game, without any edits. |
| 04:09.29 | ZealotOnAStick | I used it tonight. |
| 04:09.32 | Xinhuan | i would think so, the last time i used expiration was about 5 months ago |
| 04:09.41 | Xinhuan | and it was really quite pathetic back then |
| 04:09.50 | ZealotOnAStick | and it hasn't occurred to you that it might be different in that time? |
| 04:09.56 | Nefarion | aw now you hurt its feelings |
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| 04:10.31 | Xinhuan | maybe it has |
| 04:10.45 | ZealotOnAStick | you can set filters for whatever you please. |
| 04:10.58 | ZealotOnAStick | and I don't know what the max lines is, I usually find 30 adequate. |
| 04:11.20 | Xinhuan | did the author add a GUI? |
| 04:11.30 | ZealotOnAStick | no |
| 04:11.36 | Xinhuan | or still 100% slashcommands? |
| 04:11.50 | ZealotOnAStick | all slash command as far as I know. |
| 04:12.18 | aestil | so, you don't particularly like wws then? |
| 04:12.21 | aestil | lots of useful info? |
| 04:12.40 | ZealotOnAStick | WWS is nice, but I find it sort of a pain to use regularly. |
| 04:13.11 | aestil | a pain? |
| 04:13.22 | aestil | 20 seconds of time spent uploading a file and then posting a link on guild forums? |
| 04:14.59 | Xinhuan | is whatever you upload to wws public information that anyone can view? |
| 04:20.44 | Antiarc | Not by default |
| 04:20.46 | Antiarc | Though you can make it so |
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| 04:34.25 | Zhinjio | Pkekyo, if you're still here, sorry... I ended up taking a nap. Looking at yr img now. |
| 04:44.08 | kebinusan | bleh, kael is annoying to learn |
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| 04:45.30 | Zhinjio | Pkekyo: it took awhile, but I found a filter that works. |
| 04:45.42 | Zhinjio | In paint shop pro, its caleld the "Salt and pepper noise removal. |
| 04:45.54 | Zhinjio | I will send it back after one pass through that |
| 04:49.45 | Zhinjio | Pkekyo: sent. |
| 04:49.48 | Zhinjio | ~seen Pkekyo |
| 04:50.12 | purl | pkekyo <n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 44m 38s ago, saying: 'why the hell would someone be doing naxx now? O.o'. |
| 04:50.43 | Zhinjio | bah, he's not even here. nm. |
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| 04:52.46 | Elynna | Is there a mod that changes the font of player and npc names above their heads? |
| 04:53.52 | aestil | simple mini map tells me who pinged? |
| 04:54.07 | Zhinjio | yes. |
| 04:54.40 | aestil | fail. i don't need that |
| 04:54.58 | Wobwork | aestil: surprisingly useful |
| 04:55.43 | Elynna | =/ |
| 04:55.52 | aestil | i just don't care who pings. |
| 04:55.59 | aestil | ping is like... doesn't tell me anything. |
| 04:56.13 | Wobwork | ping is like "omg, over here" |
| 04:56.20 | kenlyric | then turn it off? |
| 04:56.20 | Wobwork | "Look! Shiny!" |
| 04:57.07 | Elynna | Is there a mod that changes the font of player and npc names above their heads? |
| 04:57.16 | Wobwork | aloft? |
| 04:57.29 | Wobwork | oh the font. I dunno |
| 04:58.15 | dylanm | I think that's a pretty simple thing... one of those global constants |
| 04:58.17 | Elynna | Ive seen alot of vids and SS with the font changed, but noone seems to know the name of the mod that does it >.> |
| 04:58.55 | Elynna | Im just so sick of this boring font =/ |
| 04:58.56 | dylanm | If you did what the ClearFont2 website calls "step two" that would surely do it |
| 04:59.30 | dylanm | UNIT_NAME_FONT there we go |
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| 05:00.39 | dylanm | Causes tainting issues... wonder why that would be |
| 05:03.36 | RaydenUni | how many healers in KZ? |
| 05:03.51 | Wobwork | 2? |
| 05:03.56 | Wobwork | 3 maybe |
| 05:04.21 | Wobwork | we run with about that |
| 05:04.25 | Wobwork | depending on availability |
| 05:05.17 | RaydenUni | i guess we are running a priest and a shaman |
| 05:07.09 | RaydenUni | good grief |
| 05:07.13 | RaydenUni | we're going to run 4 warriors |
| 05:08.25 | Wobwork | that will be... interesting =P |
| 05:08.40 | RaydenUni | warrior main tank, warrior off tank, warrior dps, warrior dps |
| 05:08.43 | Wobwork | four tanks, no wait =P |
| 05:08.47 | RaydenUni | but we also have a pally tank... |
| 05:08.55 | Wobwork | five tanks, no wait =P |
| 05:09.15 | Lukian | lol madness |
| 05:09.17 | Wobwork | What casters have you? |
| 05:09.21 | RaydenUni | hey at least we have enough tanks for moroes |
| 05:09.25 | RaydenUni | warlock, mage, shadowpriest |
| 05:09.28 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:09.33 | Zhinjio | depends on how good the healers are. we usually do one MT, one OT and one raid healer |
| 05:09.34 | Wobwork | I've done moroes with three hunters trapping |
| 05:09.42 | Wobwork | most entertaining moroes ever =) |
| 05:09.51 | RaydenUni | our hunter is also our main tank :( |
| 05:10.02 | Wobwork | every twenty seconds, three mobs would cross the room in all different directions =P |
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| 05:10.28 | Xelopheris | My best KZ run: Feral Druid, DPS warrior OT, 2 rogues, enh shaman, BM hunter, shadow priest, paladin, resto shaman, resto druid |
| 05:10.33 | Xelopheris | no mages no locks |
| 05:10.40 | Wobwork | How was ilhoof? |
| 05:10.42 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 05:10.50 | Zhinjio | I was going to ask. |
| 05:10.54 | Xelopheris | illhoof was bladeflurry tastic |
| 05:10.57 | Wobwork | cause total lack of Seed of lol... |
| 05:11.02 | Zhinjio | and how'd you handle nightbane with no fear protect? |
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| 05:11.09 | Xelopheris | dps warrior did it |
| 05:11.09 | Zhinjio | or is yr shadow priest a dwarf? |
| 05:11.13 | Xelopheris | overgearing ftw |
| 05:11.16 | Zhinjio | ah. |
| 05:11.27 | Xelopheris | I went healing to help on that fight though :P |
| 05:11.28 | Wobwork | hehe totally =) |
| 05:11.46 | Zhinjio | prince must have been a long fight |
| 05:11.53 | Xelopheris | heh, yeah |
| 05:11.57 | RaydenUni | no |
| 05:11.59 | RaydenUni | we are hrode |
| 05:12.00 | RaydenUni | troll |
| 05:12.01 | Xelopheris | run out, run in, run out, run in :P |
| 05:12.02 | RaydenUni | that's me :) |
| 05:12.05 | Zhinjio | exactly |
| 05:12.15 | Wobwork | 5 around maiden must have been fun =) |
| 05:12.25 | Xelopheris | yeah, another one I healed on >.> |
| 05:12.38 | Zhinjio | you've got the pally for the BoS. shouldn't have been a huge issue |
| 05:12.52 | Xelopheris | no, the holy wrath that chains |
| 05:12.55 | Xelopheris | 5th melee is dead |
| 05:12.55 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:12.58 | Wobwork | hard for melee =) |
| 05:13.12 | Xelopheris | I just threw on resto gear and rolled lifeblooms on all the melee :P |
| 05:13.37 | Wobwork | shammy chainheal would help too |
| 05:13.49 | Wobwork | I <3 being a rogue at times |
| 05:14.02 | Wobwork | I vanished out of Aran's mass polymorph on Sunday |
| 05:14.15 | Wobwork | and whacked him on the back of the head =P |
| 05:14.25 | Xelopheris | I have never seen Aran mass polymorph |
| 05:14.31 | Zhinjio | huh? |
| 05:14.31 | Wobwork | I should have sapped him, but he was probably in combat |
| 05:14.37 | Zhinjio | how can you avoid it? |
| 05:14.41 | Wobwork | our dps was a little down |
| 05:14.43 | Xelopheris | beat the mana pool |
| 05:14.47 | Wobwork | you kill him before the mana runs out |
| 05:14.50 | Zhinjio | oh. wow. |
| 05:14.54 | Xelopheris | LOL. |
| 05:15.08 | Zhinjio | yeah, we have too many new people every week to do that. |
| 05:15.28 | Xelopheris | 1 dps alt, 1 tank or healing alt is all I allow in my raids |
| 05:15.33 | Xelopheris | in my KZ raids* |
| 05:15.36 | Wobwork | although with a shammy, a dps warr and two rogues, Aran wouldn't even get a single cast off =P |
| 05:15.49 | Zhinjio | lots of interrupts would be good, yeah |
| 05:15.50 | Wobwork | aside from the noninterruptables |
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| 05:16.16 | Xelopheris | Shamans aren't that reliable of an interupt |
| 05:16.20 | Xelopheris | 16% resist rate ftl |
| 05:16.23 | Wobwork | =( |
| 05:16.38 | Wobwork | I know one enh shammy that really irritates me though |
| 05:16.46 | Wobwork | she refuses to even -try- to interrupt |
| 05:17.06 | Wobwork | I'm like "Well, no. It's not a suggestion. Interrupt the charged fist, please" |
| 05:17.10 | Wobwork | "... maybe..." |
| 05:17.20 | Wobwork | rararara =P |
| 05:18.11 | Xelopheris | Simple. Don't heal a preventable aoe damage |
| 05:18.26 | Wobwork | I'm a rogue =( |
| 05:18.49 | Wobwork | I get hit by that damage if my latency/reactions fail the interrupt =P |
| 05:19.26 | Xelopheris | clos |
| 05:19.41 | Wobwork | well that doesn't help the tank, does it? |
| 05:19.50 | Wobwork | the best I can do is kidney shot |
| 05:20.11 | Wobwork | but that doesn't help the whole situation where she doesn't try to interrupt =P |
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| 05:22.36 | Diao | we bring in new people every week and haven't gotten polymorphed like.. ever o_O |
| 05:23.22 | `Zypher | i got polyd last week, it was wierd. had enough dps for illhoof but not aran? |
| 05:25.57 | Xelopheris | illhoof isn't a dps race |
| 05:26.10 | Xelopheris | well, he is |
| 05:26.16 | Xelopheris | but the mechanics of the fight make the dps race a joke |
| 05:28.21 | Zhinjio | illhoof is just about the chains. you either take care of them well, and you down him, or you don't, and you don't. |
| 05:28.30 | Zhinjio | well, and doing something about imp population, I guess |
| 05:28.44 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 05:28.54 | RaydenUni | shadow priests should be with whom in a 10 man? |
| 05:28.59 | Wobwork | casters |
| 05:29.03 | RaydenUni | tank? tank healer? |
| 05:29.13 | Xinhuan | depends on fight |
| 05:29.22 | Wobwork | ve is usually good for splash damage |
| 05:29.23 | Xinhuan | if its healing intensive, with 4 other healers |
| 05:29.33 | Xinhuan | if its dps intensive, usually 4 other mana dpsers |
| 05:29.39 | Zhinjio | *nod* |
| 05:29.41 | Wobwork | but vt is most useful |
| 05:30.18 | Wobwork | I wish they shifted our shammy to the melee group =( |
| 05:30.23 | Wobwork | but the casters always complain =P |
| 05:30.28 | Wobwork | WF ftw |
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| 05:35.23 | Zhinjio | we're going to try gruul's again this tuesday. |
| 05:35.37 | Zhinjio | only had one semi-aborted on him so far. not a good scene. |
| 05:35.50 | Zhinjio | this attempt is with all in guild people, though. should be much better. |
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| 05:35.58 | Zhinjio | I'm hoping. |
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| 05:43.46 | RaydenUni | sweet |
| 05:43.51 | RaydenUni | just got the shadow pendant from KZ |
| 05:58.07 | aestil | does wws properly track how many times a priest casts PoM? |
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| 06:16.41 | mathuin | AutoBar question: how can I bind keys to trinkets 1 and 2? They're not listed in the AutoBar page under key bindings. |
| 06:16.47 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {[0] = "a"} print(t[0]) |
| 06:16.47 | cladbot | Xinhuan: a |
| 06:17.11 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {[0] = "a"} print(#t) |
| 06:17.12 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 0 |
| 06:17.28 | RaydenUni | why do i always die on bosses?! |
| 06:18.29 | RaydenUni | well i guess we wiped |
| 06:19.46 | Zhinjio | aestil: checking. |
| 06:21.21 | Zhinjio | aestil: unless our priest didn't use that at all in a kara run (!!!) no, it doesn't. |
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| 06:21.50 | RaydenUni | mahtuin to cast one or the other? |
| 06:22.00 | RaydenUni | as a macro or part of your mod? |
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| 06:25.25 | mathuin | The AutoBar addon supports key bindings for many of its buttons, like hearth and mount. |
| 06:25.46 | mathuin | I don't see how to support it for trinkets 1 and 2. |
| 06:26.33 | Orionshock | lol |
| 06:27.08 | Orionshock | make 2 macros '/use 13' '/use 14' , go get BindPad off of wowinterface and then bind keys to those macros |
| 06:27.14 | RaydenUni | we have 2 warrior tanks and a pally tank |
| 06:27.16 | RaydenUni | how to tank moroes? |
| 06:27.26 | RaydenUni | 2 paladins, priest, and prot warrior adds |
| 06:27.28 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: who are ur adds? |
| 06:27.34 | RaydenUni | shackle pallies |
| 06:27.36 | RaydenUni | dps priest |
| 06:27.52 | mathuin | Orionshock: Now if I could do that with a button that automatically changed images to match the trinket in each slot, I'd do that. |
| 06:27.57 | Orionshock | if u do that - drag the priest away from the shackles, she'll dispell them |
| 06:28.03 | mathuin | Alas, Autobar does the button bit but not the key bit. |
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| 06:28.31 | Orionshock | mathuin: um.. bind pad can arbitrarily assign key bindings to any macro u like |
| 06:28.46 | mathuin | Right, but the hard part is the changing-picture bit. |
| 06:28.48 | Orionshock | for me i hit 't' and 'y' for top and bottom trinkets |
| 06:28.57 | Orionshock | i don't have them on action bars or in auto bar |
| 06:29.01 | mathuin | I don't want the same picture, because I change trinkets but don't look before hitting htem. |
| 06:29.05 | Orionshock | that's what HG is for |
| 06:29.10 | mathuin | ? |
| 06:29.14 | Orionshock | use the ' |
| 06:29.23 | Orionshock | use the '?' as the icon the UI will change with it's trinkets |
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| 06:29.30 | Orionshock | HourGlass |
| 06:29.55 | Orionshock | and i use ItemRack2 to move my trinkets arround, i like to have full control |
| 06:30.46 | mathuin | I stopped using Itemrack ages ago for Outfitter, and one of these days I'll move to Closetgnome. |
| 06:30.55 | Orionshock | using the '?' icon w/o putting #showtooltip has the same funcitonality |
| 06:31.39 | Orionshock | never used Outfitter, but CG has a poorly designed UI for it |
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| 06:36.09 | NightHawkTheSane | "Canadian football league is a joke! Celine Dion is overrated! ... Zelenka is smarter than you!" |
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| 06:46.42 | Orionshock | ok so how does one do that revision tag in side the file? |
| 06:49.40 | NightHawkTheSane | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 06:49.41 | NightHawkTheSane | read, learn. |
| 06:54.24 | Zhinjio | is there a generic popup type thinger for making a text edit box with 'submit'/'cancel' buttons? Or do I need to make my own? |
| 06:54.37 | Zhinjio | (not that I'm opposed to making my own, mind you. |
| 06:54.43 | Zhinjio | just want to do unnecessary work. |
| 06:54.47 | Xinhuan | can use the default UI |
| 06:54.50 | Xinhuan | look up default ui examples |
| 06:55.14 | Zhinjio | k |
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| 06:55.29 | Xinhuan | generally everything is in StaticPopups.lua |
| 06:55.58 | Zhinjio | looking at that now. |
| 06:56.01 | RaydenUni | man |
| 06:56.04 | RaydenUni | we can't get moroes :( |
| 06:56.12 | Xinhuan | why not |
| 06:56.25 | RaydenUni | so its spriest, prot warrior, 2 pallies |
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| 06:56.36 | Xinhuan | nothing wrong with that |
| 06:56.47 | RaydenUni | kill spriest, kill prot warrior, kill one pally so the main priest doesnt have to shackle him... |
| 06:57.16 | Xinhuan | uh |
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| 06:57.23 | Xinhuan | sounds like bad strategy |
| 06:57.28 | Xinhuan | whats your classmakeup |
| 06:57.35 | RaydenUni | healing: priest, shaman |
| 06:57.41 | RaydenUni | tanking: warrior, warrior, paladin |
| 06:57.49 | RaydenUni | dps: warlock, warrior, mage, spriest |
| 06:57.52 | RaydenUni | and rogue |
| 06:57.59 | Xinhuan | so you have 2 priests? |
| 06:58.06 | Xinhuan | that's 2 shackles for the entire length of the fight |
| 06:58.12 | Xinhuan | and you have 3 tanks |
| 06:58.21 | RaydenUni | well our other priest has to go |
| 06:58.23 | Zhinjio | yeah, just keep 'em shackled and worry about 'em after moroes. |
| 06:58.28 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 06:58.32 | RaydenUni | so instead of the priest and mage we have a dps warrior and a resto druid |
| 06:58.43 | RaydenUni | which will make it very interesting |
| 06:59.09 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: so I can define my own one of these? |
| 06:59.16 | RaydenUni | so 4 warriors and a pally :D |
| 06:59.21 | Zhinjio | the format is simple enough |
| 06:59.44 | Orionshock | NightHawkTheSane: thanks ... but figured it out by example |
| 06:59.50 | Zhinjio | like, add in SimplePopupDialogs["MY_FUNCTION"] = { blah blah blah } |
| 06:59.59 | Zhinjio | and then call it via the normal method? |
| 07:00.15 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: take a look at damagemeters - it has a good example of how to use the static popups |
| 07:00.29 | Zhinjio | alrighty. |
| 07:00.48 | Zhinjio | thanks. |
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| 07:03.13 | RaydenUni | apparently we are giving up on moroes for attumen |
| 07:03.33 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 07:03.45 | Xinhuan | last time i did moroes, i think we 8-manned it with 1 tank |
| 07:04.43 | Xinhuan | why would you skip attunmen in the first place anyway |
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| 07:05.33 | Zhinjio | Orionshock: thats exactly what I needed. THank you. |
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| 07:06.21 | RaydenUni | i can't stay the whole time |
| 07:07.05 | RaydenUni | it's 3am and i have to get up at 6:30 |
| 07:07.11 | RaydenUni | i'm on EST and rest of guild is PST |
| 07:07.35 | Xinhuan | ps. go to bed ;p |
| 07:07.55 | Xinhuan | <3 |
| 07:08.28 | RaydenUni | i took a nap earlier |
| 07:08.36 | RaydenUni | this is the only chance i have to raid with them :( |
| 07:08.41 | Xinhuan | which means you don't really need to go to bed :) |
| 07:08.52 | Xinhuan | and your original excuse isn't valid! woo logic hehe |
| 07:09.37 | RaydenUni | well i should get some sleep |
| 07:11.25 | Diao | hmm |
| 07:11.34 | Diao | hey Xinhuan how hard is al'ar relative to solarian/vr? |
| 07:12.08 | Xinhuan | solarian and VR are heaps easier than alar |
| 07:12.30 | Xinhuan | alar requires tanking coordination |
| 07:12.42 | Xinhuan | but once your tank gets the hang of it, its easy too |
| 07:12.45 | Diao | hmm |
| 07:12.50 | Diao | 2-3 tanks right? |
| 07:12.56 | Xinhuan | you need a minimum of 3 tanks |
| 07:13.06 | Diao | well we have 4 tanks anyway for VR |
| 07:13.10 | Diao | but uh |
| 07:13.15 | Diao | our tanks are really fast on picking up stuff |
| 07:13.19 | Diao | it's the dps i'm worried about |
| 07:13.21 | Xinhuan | because you need 1 tank to tank the phoenix adds in p2 |
| 07:13.27 | Xinhuan | and you need 2 tanks to taunt alar |
| 07:13.33 | Xinhuan | when the other gets the -armor debuff |
| 07:14.00 | Xinhuan | read up the fight on wowwiki or bosskillers |
| 07:14.08 | Diao | yeah i did read it |
| 07:14.13 | Xinhuan | its really just tanking coordination, nothing more to it |
| 07:14.14 | Diao | it says 2-3 tanks for al'ar + 1 for adds |
| 07:14.21 | Diao | so if our tanks are good we can probably do it? |
| 07:14.25 | Xinhuan | 2 is the minimum +1 for adds so 3 |
| 07:14.30 | Xinhuan | won't hurt to have 4 |
| 07:14.34 | Diao | hmm |
| 07:14.38 | Diao | i might have my guild try al'ar first |
| 07:14.39 | Xinhuan | but battle rezzes can always be used |
| 07:14.50 | Diao | cause it took us like 75 min to get to VR |
| 07:14.59 | Diao | and only having 45 min to learn it before trash respawns |
| 07:15.01 | Diao | seems kinda rough |
| 07:15.10 | Xinhuan | its doable |
| 07:15.26 | Xinhuan | colony raiders is such a guild, decided to kill alar before attempting FLK ;p |
| 07:15.54 | Diao | FLK is easier? o_O |
| 07:15.58 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 07:16.05 | Xinhuan | about the same really |
| 07:16.05 | Diao | hmm |
| 07:16.06 | Diao | oh |
| 07:16.23 | Diao | how would you rank the ssc bosses in difficulty? |
| 07:16.32 | Diao | people keep telling me to try lurker |
| 07:16.47 | Xinhuan | lurker > FLK > tidewalker > hydross > leotheras > vashj |
| 07:16.59 | Xinhuan | but you can't reach FLK without first kiling tidewalker, or at least clear past him |
| 07:17.10 | Xinhuan | so you'll kill tidewalker first anyway |
| 07:17.15 | Diao | ah |
| 07:18.01 | ScoTTie | its funny, we sent far too long learning leo compared to the other bosses in SSC |
| 07:18.14 | ScoTTie | but we've gonne back and 1 shot him every time after the first kill |
| 07:18.26 | ScoTTie | 3 times and counting |
| 07:18.32 | Xinhuan | that's cos its one of those fights that has a high learning curve |
| 07:18.35 | Xinhuan | but once learnt, its easy |
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| 07:19.51 | Arcaia | anyone here have a 70 resto/elemental shaman on a US PVP server? |
| 07:20.01 | Arcaia | horde |
| 07:20.20 | ScoTTie | true, out main problem was just people either being too scared to pushing too hard with dps |
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| 07:23.46 | Arcaia | anyone here have a 70 resto/elemental Horde shaman on a US PVP server? |
| 07:24.01 | Arcaia | <-- interested in bugging you about things |
| 07:28.11 | Lukian | Kemayo, ToFu crashes my game. |
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| 07:28.29 | RaydenUni | swee |
| 07:28.37 | RaydenUni | got the shadow neck from KZ and then the ring from attumen |
| 07:29.47 | RaydenUni | is maiden easier than moroes? |
| 07:30.12 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r53416 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (5 files): |
| 07:30.12 | CIA-7 | Cartographer: |
| 07:30.12 | CIA-7 | - Waypoints: updated zhTW localization |
| 07:31.38 | Xinhuan | slightly |
| 07:31.55 | Xinhuan | it requires that your pally knows how to use blessing of sacrifice |
| 07:33.33 | Arrowmaster | we never liked the blessing of sac strat since maiden would tend to run to the pally right after a repentance |
| 07:34.23 | Arrowmaster | funny story, we once did maiden without a dispeller |
| 07:34.54 | Xinhuan | that shouldn't happen if your tank is holding aggro |
| 07:35.15 | Arrowmaster | shamans used grounding totems and i think i was the only person that got hit by a holyfire that got past the grounding totems, but i resisted it |
| 07:36.01 | Tem|AFK | ~logs |
| 07:36.02 | purl | well, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
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| 07:36.40 | Arrowmaster | i havent run kara in a long time, but i know that now if we run kara, maiden cant kill our tanks during a reptentance |
| 07:36.59 | Arrowmaster | out gear it so much |
| 07:38.00 | Lukian | yeah, we had a noob (but decently geared) warrior tanking it, and he was fine |
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| 07:50.30 | gnorlish | i did kara with 4 shaman and 2 warlocks one time |
| 07:50.40 | gnorlish | that was a quick and painless maiden death |
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| 07:55.16 | Poof | Hey |
| 07:55.32 | Poof | Anybody here use Recount? And... Is so... How accurate do you think it is? |
| 07:55.39 | Poof | Since I see it not matching a few DPS meters. |
| 07:57.35 | Arcaia | I haven't found [a] dps meter yet that is 100% accurate ;P |
| 07:57.43 | Orionshock | poof each DM has it's own way of counting damage |
| 07:57.57 | Orionshock | being 1/2k off is not an issue |
| 07:58.00 | Poof | Oh? |
| 07:58.04 | the-golem | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.16 | Poof | How the heck is a damage meter inaccurate? =/ |
| 07:58.36 | Arcaia | <- upper respiratory infection.. been dead to the world. |
| 07:58.38 | Orionshock | because they all have a slightly different way of counting it and assigning source |
| 07:59.12 | the-golem | Poof: they have different ideas of when to start counting it, and what Orionshock said |
| 07:59.16 | Orionshock | also to mention that you don't always receive all the events from other players , even when right next to them |
| 08:00.27 | Poof | Oh. |
| 08:00.37 | Poof | I always thought that Damage was an always broadcast event. |
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| 08:02.53 | Orionshock | yes but you don't always get them all |
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| 08:03.47 | starlon | How is it that in lua 98.188000 > 98.188000? |
| 08:03.59 | CIA-7 | 03ominous * r53417 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 08:04.20 | Arrowmaster | >>> return 98.188000 > 98.188000 |
| 08:04.28 | Arrowmaster | lua> return 98.188000 > 98.188000 |
| 08:04.28 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 08:04.44 | RaydenUni | aw man |
| 08:04.48 | RaydenUni | i almost got 3 items from KZ |
| 08:04.49 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 08:04.51 | starlon | Well just returned true in this addon. |
| 08:04.58 | RaydenUni | moroes dropped 2 cloaks |
| 08:05.10 | Arrowmaster | starlon: im betting on rounding |
| 08:05.24 | starlon | yeah I guess I should round it myself |
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| 08:11.23 | Orionshock | i just don't understand how Ace2 can be 5mb in game |
| 08:12.07 | Orionshock | maybe i should LoD it's modules so i can see what's eating the memory |
| 08:12.15 | Arrowmaster | its other addons |
| 08:13.02 | Orionshock | the game is attributing 5mb of memory to it for some reason |
| 08:13.47 | Arrowmaster | other addons using ace2 |
| 08:15.15 | Elkano | Orionshock: Ace2 is simply blamed the memory consumption of other addons eg as results of calls via AceEvent |
| 08:16.06 | Elkano | hmm... I wonder if someone will pick up and fix Expo |
| 08:16.38 | Orionshock | Elkano: for ebb think we can get an option to not show tt on a perticular group? |
| 08:18.06 | RaydenUni | when is the bot coming back? |
| 08:18.37 | Elkano | Orionshock: well, I added clickthrough recently where you won't get a tooltip but also can't cancel buffs |
| 08:18.52 | Orionshock | that works |
| 08:19.35 | Orionshock | it's for the TENCH group, i don't care much for the tt on my weapons :D |
| 08:19.53 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 08:21.49 | RaydenUni | we finally killed moroes |
| 08:21.52 | RaydenUni | with 4 warriors no less |
| 08:23.09 | Xinhuan | "electrical charge cannot be gained more often than once every 2.5 seconds" |
| 08:23.16 | Xinhuan | i think Blizzard just killed arcane spec. |
| 08:23.30 | evl | good |
| 08:23.35 | evl | I hate mages without FIAAAAAAR |
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| 08:32.18 | smoke__ | anyone familiar with mecaire's macrotexter addon? |
| 08:34.14 | Orionshock | what's it do? |
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| 08:37.10 | RaydenUni | that sucks |
| 08:37.20 | RaydenUni | i improve my gear quite a bit and then i do less overall dps in KZ |
| 08:37.27 | RaydenUni | anyone here pretty familiar with WWS? |
| 08:38.24 | Orionshock | DM are pointless |
| 08:39.08 | RaydenUni | but it would be nice to see damage go up after improving gear |
| 08:39.20 | RaydenUni | i know why, it's just annoying |
| 08:40.39 | Diao | change rotations? |
| 08:40.44 | RaydenUni | no |
| 08:40.50 | RaydenUni | last week we fought attumen |
| 08:40.55 | RaydenUni | this week we fought attumen and moroes |
| 08:41.06 | RaydenUni | moroes has more AOE trash fights and i don't really dps on those |
| 08:41.19 | RaydenUni | so the mage and the warlock did WAY more dps this week, while mine was slighter lower |
| 08:41.27 | RaydenUni | i certainly did more dps against the bosses |
| 08:41.40 | Diao | but you said less overall dps |
| 08:41.48 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 08:41.50 | Diao | are you talking overall as in relative to the group? |
| 08:41.56 | RaydenUni | overall |
| 08:42.02 | RaydenUni | 450 last week 400 this week |
| 08:42.08 | RaydenUni | cause i did almost no dps against the aoe trash |
| 08:42.21 | RaydenUni | that would be my guess |
| 08:42.23 | Diao | oh |
| 08:42.27 | Diao | strange |
| 08:42.34 | RaydenUni | why? |
| 08:42.35 | Diao | what class are you? |
| 08:42.38 | RaydenUni | shadow priest |
| 08:42.48 | Diao | oh never mind |
| 08:42.50 | Diao | that's why |
| 08:42.52 | Diao | no time for dots :P |
| 08:42.54 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 08:43.01 | RaydenUni | when they live 5-10 seconds no matter what i do... |
| 08:43.34 | RaydenUni | http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Raydenuni |
| 08:43.39 | RaydenUni | got a new ring and neckpiece though |
| 08:43.43 | RaydenUni | i'm very glad about the neckpiece |
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| 08:44.13 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
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| 08:47.59 | RaydenUni | so weird question |
| 08:48.07 | RaydenUni | guildmate started recording combat log |
| 08:48.18 | RaydenUni | then he turned it off and moved the log file to a diferent directory |
| 08:48.25 | RaydenUni | then he turned on logging again and then finished |
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| 08:48.38 | RaydenUni | instead of creating a 2nd log file, i was still writing to the first one |
| 08:48.46 | RaydenUni | how the heck? |
| 08:49.08 | Diao | o_O |
| 08:49.29 | Diao | where did he move it to? |
| 08:49.54 | RaydenUni | desktop |
| 08:50.25 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r53418 10LibInventory-2.1/LibInventory-2.1.lua: LibInventory-2.1: remove a few lines on request of Elkano, damn I feel like a puppet |
| 08:50.25 | Diao | hm |
| 08:50.34 | Diao | i've heard that wow searches for files with the same name |
| 08:50.38 | Diao | like if you move your WTF folder somewhere else |
| 08:50.41 | Diao | it'll still read from it |
| 08:50.43 | Diao | or something |
| 08:50.49 | RaydenUni | that's weird |
| 08:51.06 | Diao | also, wow |
| 08:51.07 | Orionshock | does anyone know of a good / maintained guild wide profession addon? one that tracks what others can do |
| 08:51.15 | Diao | chinese guild killed illidan 52 days after they got bc o_O |
| 08:51.28 | Diao | would that require that they have the addon too Orionshock? |
| 08:51.37 | Orionshock | lol ofc |
| 08:51.45 | Diao | oh |
| 08:51.49 | Diao | good luck with that :P |
| 08:51.58 | Diao | i have trouble getting people to install addons and i'm the GM :( |
| 08:52.01 | Orionshock | got most of our guild to install GroupCalender |
| 08:52.25 | Diao | only after i started kicking people from raids for not having omen |
| 08:52.28 | Orionshock | gave em the 1 - 2 threat, "Install mod or no raid for you" |
| 08:52.28 | Diao | did they start getting it :\ |
| 08:54.22 | Elkano | orionshock, I was thinking a bout alib or sth like that where the user would be able to choose which data to offer to whom (addons installed, talents, profession stuff) but I didn't come very far, yet |
| 08:54.34 | Diao | talents would be deprecated by next patch though |
| 08:54.44 | Orionshock | Diao not exactly |
| 08:54.49 | Diao | no? |
| 08:54.55 | Orionshock | for the most part yes |
| 08:55.04 | Orionshock | and for the majority of sane useage yes |
| 08:55.20 | Diao | what could you possibly need it for :P |
| 08:55.21 | Orionshock | Elkano: interesting... |
| 08:55.35 | Diao | i mean, the default one on the ptr already shows exactly which talents they have as well |
| 08:55.41 | Diao | so.. |
| 08:55.44 | Orionshock | Diao: ... well LFG... |
| 08:55.48 | Orionshock | would be one |
| 08:56.06 | Orionshock | you can only get the talent of someone in inspect range |
| 08:56.45 | Orionshock | and tbh that's the only thing i can think of that you'd need some sort of comms aspect for the rest can be done at inspect range |
| 08:57.44 | Diao | eh i guess |
| 08:57.46 | Orionshock | Elkano: well if u want to start that addon up, i'd be willing to help test and bug test as well... could prolly get a few friends in guild to help with it too |
| 08:57.53 | Diao | but most of the people whose talents you'd want to inspect at range for lfg |
| 08:57.58 | Diao | i'd assume wouldn't have the addon |
| 08:58.01 | Diao | :P |
| 08:58.27 | Orionshock | talent comms dosn't belong anywhere... at best it belongs in ehnLFG |
| 08:58.45 | Orionshock | but .... still it just donsn't fit right on it's own or in a comm lib or even in an addon... |
| 08:59.19 | Orionshock | a GuildManagement tool ... that's all i can think of tbh |
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| 09:00.40 | Diao | with how much trouble i have to get people to install |
| 09:00.53 | Diao | i've stuck with only requiring omen |
| 09:00.53 | Diao | lol |
| 09:00.59 | Orionshock | viablity is a bitch |
| 09:01.17 | Elkano | btw: anyone an idea what IsOutOfBounds() does? |
| 09:01.43 | Orionshock | tbh, what i'd like wau to be able to do is open up an xml file that has all the guild mod ref's in it and auto magicly download them... |
| 09:01.48 | Diao | is that a new api? |
| 09:01.50 | Orionshock | but that's a pipe dream |
| 09:01.56 | RaydenUni | class is in 3 hours |
| 09:01.59 | RaydenUni | should i go to bed? |
| 09:02.05 | Orionshock | RaydenUni: no |
| 09:02.24 | Diao | i say yes |
| 09:02.28 | Zhinjio | 1.5 hours is a good sleep period of time if you're used to it. |
| 09:02.29 | Diao | but |
| 09:02.32 | RaydenUni | i had a 2 hr nap from 9-11 |
| 09:02.35 | Diao | that's because i'm used to sleeping very little |
| 09:02.36 | Diao | and |
| 09:02.37 | Zhinjio | generally speaking, multiples of 90 minutes are good. |
| 09:02.46 | Diao | if i don't sleep at all, i am very tired during class |
| 09:02.53 | Diao | but if i sleep about 2 hrs or so |
| 09:03.04 | Diao | i'll be very awake during class, and crash the next day after classes are over |
| 09:03.34 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 09:03.37 | Elkano | Diao, yes, seems to be new in 2.3 |
| 09:03.39 | RaydenUni | WWS took the log file |
| 09:03.43 | RaydenUni | but it doesn't display anyone |
| 09:03.51 | Diao | no idea |
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| 09:04.06 | Zhinjio | did you set your actors correctly, RaydenUni? |
| 09:04.06 | Elkano | Orionshock: wrt the lib I was thinking about having the lib being able to do that stuff but it will all be disabled by default |
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| 09:04.18 | RaydenUni | i'm using the v2 beta |
| 09:04.21 | RaydenUni | you do'nt set actors |
| 09:04.33 | Zhinjio | k |
| 09:04.37 | Zhinjio | haven't tried that out. |
| 09:05.10 | RaydenUni | could be because i didn't generate the log file |
| 09:05.13 | RaydenUni | was from someone else |
| 09:05.24 | Orionshock | well here's the problem... lib don't have SV's |
| 09:05.25 | RaydenUni | v2 uses an addon in addition to uploading |
| 09:05.28 | RaydenUni | maybe that's what the addon does |
| 09:06.06 | Orionshock | so a lib-addon combo would be ... inconvenient design. |
| 09:06.32 | Orionshock | that is if we stick to classic form |
| 09:10.21 | Elkano | Orionshock, but iirc Threat does have some settings, too, doesn't it? |
| 09:11.45 | Fisker- | ah not again :( |
| 09:12.17 | Elkano | anyways... heading to lecture now... ikimasu... |
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| 09:16.37 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT. |
| 09:18.07 | RaydenUni | well, bedtime |
| 09:20.47 | Fisker- | YOU CANNOT DEFEND WHAT YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND |
| 09:21.03 | Fisker- | that's also defense |
| 09:21.11 | Fisker- | rinse repeat for whatever you else have up your sleeve |
| 09:21.14 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:21.33 | Fisker- | unfair |
| 09:21.47 | [Ammo] | instahearth damnit, that was cool indeed |
| 09:21.56 | Arrowmaster | i win! |
| 09:22.07 | Fisker- | oooh |
| 09:22.11 | Fisker- | divine shield + hearthstone |
| 09:22.19 | Fisker- | bai [Ammo] |
| 09:22.32 | Fisker- | you can't |
| 09:22.36 | [Ammo] | yes you can |
| 09:22.37 | Fisker- | the nuke is interrupting your cast |
| 09:22.38 | [Ammo] | PURGE |
| 09:22.44 | Fisker- | THE NUKE IS INTERRUPTING |
| 09:27.18 | Xinhuan | isn't there some 3 hour limit on playing wow in china |
| 09:27.28 | Xinhuan | in reference to the china guild that killed illidan |
| 09:27.55 | Fisker- | i think they removed that again |
| 09:28.21 | Fisker- | besides it was just something silly as you lost experience bonus from mobs i believe |
| 09:29.02 | nevcairiel | you didnt get any xp or loot or reputation |
| 09:30.04 | Diao | had to have been removed |
| 09:30.09 | Diao | because that one guy got 70 in 24 hours |
| 09:30.58 | Fisker- | hehe that would've been funny |
| 09:31.04 | Fisker- | "Chinese first kill on illidan" |
| 09:31.12 | Fisker- | "Loots: Nothing, the government screwed us over." |
| 09:31.13 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:31.39 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 09:31.45 | Kerafyrm | that'd be pretty funny |
| 09:31.57 | Diao | lol |
| 09:32.24 | Kerafyrm | Open the loot and theres just a scroll, upon reading says "We apologize for any inconvience this may cause, the your government censored your loots." |
| 09:32.42 | ramoz | vhaarr: is it possible to turn the text off in DurabilityFu |
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| 09:36.00 | Fisker- | bai |
| 09:36.32 | MoonWolf | 14 minutes untill the planet explodes! |
| 09:38.01 | vhaarr | ramoz: no idea |
| 09:38.45 | haste | everything is possible! It just requires some effort :3 |
| 09:39.38 | Arrowmaster | for large values of 0 right ;P |
| 09:40.38 | haste | I was actually thinking of the durabilityfu issue there |
| 09:41.07 | Fisker- | LOLOL YOU CAN DIVIDE BY ZERO |
| 09:41.21 | Fisker- | x/0 = NULLITY = PROBLEM SOLVED = LOL I R SMRT AND TEACH KIDS STUPID THINGS |
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| 09:42.55 | MoonWolf | i never did understand the concept of nullity |
| 09:43.04 | MoonWolf | you can't really calculate it |
| 09:43.08 | MoonWolf | or with it |
| 09:43.11 | MoonWolf | so its not a solution |
| 09:43.12 | CIA-7 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r53419 10IceHUD_Hunter/ (10 files in 2 dirs): IceHUD_Hunter : added alot of modules and fixed some stuff |
| 09:44.04 | Fisker- | MoonWolf no it's not a term for "division by zero" |
| 09:44.11 | Fisker- | atleast that's the way i see it |
| 09:44.17 | MoonWolf | wow |
| 09:44.21 | Arrowmaster | lua> 1/0 |
| 09:44.21 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: inf |
| 09:44.22 | MoonWolf | that makes it utterly pointless |
| 09:44.28 | CIA-7 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r53420 10IceHUD_Hunter/parry.WAV: IceHUD_Hunter : added wav file |
| 09:44.46 | Fisker- | yup MoonWolf :I |
| 09:44.54 | Speeddymon | nullity = the void = what happens when your soul dies = and no it is not a term for division by zero.. the term for division by zero is General Protection Fault in windows module krnl386.dll |
| 09:45.10 | MoonWolf | Speeddymon, lol. |
| 09:45.28 | Arrowmaster | lies |
| 09:45.44 | Speeddymon | seriously.. go back to windows 3.1 and use calc to divide anything by zero and that is what you get |
| 09:45.47 | Arrowmaster | calc.exe says "Cannot divide by zero." |
| 09:45.55 | Speeddymon | not in win 3.1 it dont |
| 09:45.59 | MoonWolf | i'll write that down every time a math problems comes to a division by zero. |
| 09:46.08 | Speeddymon | lol okie |
| 09:46.13 | Arrowmaster | i have win 3.1 on a computer upstairs |
| 09:46.21 | Arrowmaster | or maybe its 3.1.1 |
| 09:46.27 | Speeddymon | MoonWolf: let me know what your SAT scores look like after you do that |
| 09:46.54 | Speeddymon | Arrowmaster: yea its either win3.1 only or win 3.0 only, cant remember back that far but one of those two |
| 09:47.08 | Speeddymon | i know 3.11 doesnt have the problem |
| 09:47.23 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero lol |
| 09:47.30 | Fisker- | Editing of this article by unregistered or newly registered users is currently disabled until November 1, 2007 (UTC) due to vandalism. |
| 09:47.31 | Fisker- | :DDD |
| 09:47.42 | Speeddymon | lmao |
| 09:47.45 | MoonWolf | we don't have SAT over here |
| 09:47.51 | Speeddymon | oh |
| 09:47.52 | MoonWolf | and i'm doing an it course |
| 09:47.56 | MoonWolf | the teacher might yust get it. |
| 09:48.03 | Speeddymon | lol |
| 09:48.05 | Fisker- | i wonder how many just blanked it and wrote "O SHI-" |
| 09:48.05 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:48.45 | Speeddymon | -145.0 lol |
| 09:49.29 | Speeddymon | heh that wouldnt work.. it'd have to be -145.40 |
| 09:49.53 | Arrowmaster | lua> 0/0 |
| 09:49.53 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: nan |
| 09:50.07 | Arrowmaster | lua> -1/0 |
| 09:50.07 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: -inf |
| 09:50.18 | MoonWolf | - inf |
| 09:50.23 | MoonWolf | interesting. |
| 09:50.34 | Arrowmaster | lua> -1/0*1*-1*1*-1*1*-1*-1*-1*-1*1*1*1*1 |
| 09:50.34 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: -inf |
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| 09:50.39 | Speeddymon | lua> ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Your momma's a whore") |
| 09:50.39 | cladbot | Speeddymon: [string "ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Your momma's a whore..."]:1: attempt to index global 'ChatFrame1' (a nil value) |
| 09:50.39 | Arrowmaster | lua> -1/0*1*-1*1*-1*1*-1*-1*-1*-1*1*1*1*1*1 |
| 09:50.39 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: -inf |
| 09:50.45 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
| 09:51.06 | Arrowmaster | lua> -1/0*1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1 |
| 09:51.07 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: inf |
| 09:51.11 | Arrowmaster | lua> -1/0*1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1*-1 |
| 09:51.12 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: -inf |
| 09:51.22 | Speeddymon | ur still dividing by zero.. 0*1 and 0*-1 are both 0 |
| 09:51.32 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 09:52.18 | MoonWolf | but apparently we can have negative and positive infinity |
| 09:52.20 | MoonWolf | interesting concept |
| 09:52.21 | Arrowmaster | lua> 0/0*-1 |
| 09:52.21 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: nan |
| 09:52.24 | Speeddymon | lol |
| 09:52.29 | Fisker- | lua> inf |
| 09:52.30 | cladbot | Fisker-: nil |
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| 09:52.36 | Arrowmaster | The IEEE floating-point standard, supported by almost all modern processors, specifies that every floating point arithmetic operation, including division by zero, has a well-defined result. In IEEE 754 arithmetic, a ÷ 0 is positive infinity when a is positive, negative infinity when a is negative, and NaN (not a number) when a = 0. The infinity signs change when dividing by -0 instead. This is possible because in IEEE 754 there are two zero va |
| 09:52.37 | Fisker- | OMG ITS TRUE |
| 09:52.59 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 09:53.35 | nevcairiel | lua> tonumber("-inf") |
| 09:53.35 | cladbot | nevcairiel: -inf, |
| 09:53.40 | nevcairiel | that works :p |
| 09:54.26 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("-inf")*-1 |
| 09:54.26 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: inf |
| 09:54.38 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("-inf")/0 |
| 09:54.38 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: -inf |
| 09:54.44 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("inf")/0 |
| 09:54.45 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: inf |
| 09:55.02 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("nan") |
| 09:55.02 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: nan, |
| 09:55.10 | Speeddymon | ok thats just friggin great |
| 09:55.13 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("nan")/0 |
| 09:55.13 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: nan |
| 09:55.23 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("nan")/tonumber("inf") |
| 09:55.23 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: nan |
| 09:55.32 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("-inf")/tonumber("inf") |
| 09:55.33 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: nan |
| 09:55.39 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 09:55.41 | Speeddymon | wow's hanging halfway thru loading after updating.. only thing i updated was skillet.. lets see wtf the prob is |
| 09:55.42 | Fisker- | DO AS HE SAYS |
| 09:55.47 | Fisker- | he wants a number :( |
| 09:55.50 | Fisker- | nan is not a number |
| 09:56.05 | MoonWolf | soemone make cladbot aproximate pi |
| 09:56.13 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.pi |
| 09:56.13 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: 3.1415926535898 |
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| 09:56.19 | MoonWolf | nono |
| 09:56.24 | MoonWolf | actually calculating |
| 09:57.13 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.pi/tonumber("inf") |
| 09:57.13 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: 0 |
| 09:57.22 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.pi/tonumber("-inf") |
| 09:57.22 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: -0 |
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| 09:57.37 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.pi/tonumber("nan") |
| 09:57.37 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: nan |
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| 09:58.06 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.huge/math.pi |
| 09:58.06 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: inf |
| 09:58.17 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.pi/math.huge |
| 09:58.18 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: 0 |
| 09:58.47 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.huge*math.pi |
| 09:58.47 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: inf |
| 09:58.55 | Arrowmaster | inf huge pi! |
| 09:59.02 | Fisker- | lua> math.huge |
| 09:59.02 | cladbot | Fisker-: inf |
| 09:59.04 | Fisker- | :i |
| 09:59.13 | Arrowmaster | hehe |
| 09:59.34 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber("inf") == math.huge |
| 09:59.34 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: true |
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| 10:00.17 | Pkekyo | mornin' all |
| 10:01.06 | Speeddymon | mornin |
| 10:01.27 | Pkekyo | ~seen Zhinjio |
| 10:01.30 | purl | zhinjio is currently on #wowace, last said: 'Orionshock: thats exactly what I needed. THank you.'. |
| 10:01.45 | Pkekyo | you 'round Zhinjio? |
| 10:01.58 | Arrowmaster | lua> "\nQUIT" |
| 10:01.58 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: QUIT |
| 10:04.05 | Zhinjio | I am Pkekyo. |
| 10:04.18 | Zhinjio | did that suit your needs? |
| 10:04.57 | Pkekyo | well, regarding the noise, yes |
| 10:05.15 | Pkekyo | but it also fucked up the lightsources, which are the most important part of the photo :> |
| 10:05.18 | Zhinjio | I didn't really look at the res tof the image to see if it had done any damage. |
| 10:05.22 | Zhinjio | ah. |
| 10:05.26 | Pkekyo | thanks for trying though |
| 10:05.47 | Zhinjio | I may play with it again later, see if I can limit the scope or turn down the "aggressiveness" of the filter |
| 10:06.12 | Pkekyo | that'd be full of win and awesome, I want to be able to sell the photo as a print :p |
| 10:12.28 | Pkekyo | 'cause it's kinda....print-worthy, youknow :p |
| 10:12.35 | Pkekyo | and I'm stone broke >.< |
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| 10:15.36 | Pkekyo | nighttime in the states atm? |
| 10:15.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:15] [ckknight__ TIME reply]: Mon Oct 29 00:15:44 |
| 10:16.56 | Pkekyo | time reply? wut? |
| 10:17.23 | sag_ich_nicht | CTCP ftw. |
| 10:18.25 | Pkekyo | meh, I really should stop asking about abbrevations and acronyms, but....CTCP? |
| 10:21.10 | sag_ich_nicht | client to client protocol |
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| 10:38.39 | CIA-7 | 03celellach * r53421 10AtlasLoot/Documentation/Release Notes.txt: |
| 10:38.39 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:38.39 | CIA-7 | - Updated the Release notes |
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| 10:41.36 | Pkekyo | meh, it's soooo dead here when the americans are sleeping :p |
| 10:44.06 | evl | *DANCE* |
| 10:44.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 10:44.28 | sag_ich_nicht | wake up |
| 10:44.31 | sag_ich_nicht | it is not sleepy time now |
| 10:47.03 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
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| 10:51.45 | Worf | maybe it's not because americans are sleeping, but because europeans got something else to do :) |
| 10:53.01 | Pkekyo | good point |
| 10:53.17 | MoonWolf | school and work are for pussies |
| 10:53.19 | Pkekyo | wtb [job] |
| 10:53.21 | MoonWolf | reall people don't do shit. |
| 10:53.42 | Pkekyo | rofl |
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| 11:06.02 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r53422 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:06.02 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 11:06.02 | CIA-7 | _ The dataminer use a local cache if a sqlite3 binding is available. |
| 11:06.02 | CIA-7 | _ Fixed the deep scan that was wrongly detecting some items as boe. |
| 11:06.02 | CIA-7 | _ regenerate data. |
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| 11:13.46 | CIA-7 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:13.46 | CIA-7 | Babble-Tradeskill-2.2: added deDE Enchanting Recipes (thanks Angelike) |
| 11:13.46 | CIA-7 | Babble-Zone-2.2: deDE fix ["The Great Sea"] = "Das grosse Meer" -> "Das gro\195\159e Meer" (translation changed in patch 2.x-what-ever) |
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| 11:14.57 | Wilbur | Can anyone remember the name of the addon that auto-sorts your inventory? |
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| 11:17.54 | vhaarr | mrplow sorts it on demand |
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| 11:22.18 | Fisker- | i just had a great deal of lulz |
| 11:22.34 | Fisker- | almost killed me :( |
| 11:25.41 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
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| 11:28.43 | Fisker- | yup sag_ich_nicht |
| 11:30.07 | Pkekyo | vhaarrmrplow sorts it on demand <---- got any more info on this addon? |
| 11:30.37 | evl | mrplow? |
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| 11:30.51 | evl | it plows your inventory, stacks similar items and makes space |
| 11:31.39 | Pkekyo | gotta love affliction locks killing me post-mortem |
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| 11:38.13 | Elkano | sag_ich_nicht: ping? |
| 11:47.35 | evl | Pkekyo: [Bladespire Bagel] ftw. |
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| 11:49.21 | Pkekyo | evl: err? |
| 11:49.33 | evl | pvping without food is stupid :P |
| 11:49.42 | Pkekyo | lol |
| 11:49.46 | evl | 7500 hp food will tick for more than any combination of dots can possibly do :) |
| 11:49.54 | Pkekyo | you know how much food I'd need for an AV? |
| 11:49.57 | evl | i spent 120 bagels this weekend :D |
| 11:50.01 | Pkekyo | lmfao |
| 11:50.16 | evl | what class? |
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| 12:05.29 | Zhinjio | I have a table whose indeces are non-numeric. tremove (list, index) doesn't seem to be working. |
| 12:05.47 | Zhinjio | do you have to use a different method to tremove when the index is a string, or something non-numeric? |
| 12:06.19 | Pkekyo | evl: warrior |
| 12:06.22 | Elkano | table[key] = nil |
| 12:06.25 | dylanm | Zhinjio: Just nil it |
| 12:06.45 | dylanm | table.remove is only really necessary when you need to preserve an order with no gaps |
| 12:06.52 | Zhinjio | hmm. ok |
| 12:06.56 | dylanm | of natural numbers, I mean |
| 12:11.52 | Xinhuan | [Prism of Inner Calm] [Runetotem's Mantle] |
| 12:11.55 | Xinhuan | YEP terrible vashj loot |
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| 12:13.01 | dylanm | I want that robe still :( |
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| 12:13.41 | Audrina | Looking for the name of a mod that the scrolling wheel can be used. |
| 12:13.55 | Audrina | In the chat box |
| 12:14.19 | JoshBorke | Prat or Mumble |
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| 12:15.16 | dylanm | Pretty much any chat mod... PhanxChat, Cirk's... |
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| 12:15.39 | Wilbur | vhaarr - thanks for the info's ;-) |
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| 12:16.22 | Audrina | Sweet got it thanks! |
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| 13:15.59 | CIA-7 | 03aviana * r53424 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:15.59 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 13:15.59 | CIA-7 | - Added dummy entries to reflect the location of BC worldbosses |
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| 13:19.18 | CIA-7 | 03jerry * r53425 10PeriodicTable-3.0/dataminer.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: bugfix Misc.Lockboxes dataminer, the skill level does not appear in the xml data. |
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| 13:23.37 | Nefarion | lawl, this is almost as good as the LOL-MOONFIRE videos: http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/Tokoolforaname/WoWScrnShot_102907_031617.jpg?t=1193650435 |
| 13:23.50 | Nefarion | read it now! |
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| 13:52.44 | neenee | Nefarion, what's funny about it? |
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| 13:53.08 | Nefarion | the fact that he's got a deathcoil on almost every button... |
| 13:53.17 | Nefarion | a joke to the idea that it's an instant IWIN button |
| 13:53.22 | neenee | I see. |
| 13:53.28 | Nefarion | i laughed.... |
| 13:53.42 | neenee | To me it looked more like a button test. To see where buttons would be when filled. |
| 13:56.07 | Nefarion | he posted it as a finished ui |
| 13:57.32 | Nefarion | i suppose it made me think of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNI3OPAUUIY |
| 13:59.47 | Nefarion | gah #2 of that is much better but i lost it |
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| 14:00.23 | Nefarion | oh, if you even care.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1cX6LnMhYM |
| 14:00.38 | neenee | Ah. |
| 14:00.53 | neenee | Well, I care in the sense that I'll look at them a bit :) |
| 14:01.23 | neenee | I suppose he'll make a new movie once healing gets +damage too |
| 14:01.31 | Pkekyo | what's the best specc for leveling a warlock? |
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| 14:02.57 | ramoz | affliction until 50 -> failguard |
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| 14:03.48 | Codayus | Some say felguard isn't worth it till 60; depends how you like the drain tanking style, and how desperate you are for a change. |
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| 14:05.13 | Fin | change? anyone got any change? can you spare some change? |
| 14:05.47 | Fin | change? |
| 14:06.27 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 14:06.46 | Fin | oh! |
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| 14:13.20 | Nefarion | felguard doesn't beat affliction. anyone who says so doesn't know how to *effectively* play affliction. |
| 14:14.48 | Nefarion | affliction played right with halfway decent gear (outlands quest gear), is amazing. with a proper rotation and control you can handle as many mobs as you like (with practice) if you prefer a little challenge, and comfortably handle up to 5 without any issues whatsoever (once you get an effective rotation down). |
| 14:15.45 | Nefarion | that is, yellow mobs, not green |
| 14:16.55 | TNSe | or just have a priest healer. |
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| 14:17.19 | Nefarion | then you gotta share experience and loot. =) done right you'll never need a healer. |
| 14:17.59 | TNSe | levelling a priest + lock wit a friend atm |
| 14:18.02 | TNSe | its stupid |
| 14:18.20 | TNSe | lock just runs in and I stand there healin |
| 14:18.37 | Ozguli | why not spec to shadow so your imp. vampiric embrace heals you both? |
| 14:18.38 | Nefarion | actually imo frost-mage + affliction lock is just..wow |
| 14:18.48 | Nefarion | mass-dot plus aoe and freezing |
| 14:18.52 | neenee | That's because it's DPS + DPS |
| 14:19.05 | neenee | Rogue and feral druid work well too :) |
| 14:19.09 | TNSe | Ozguli, spriest are poor at multitarget dps |
| 14:19.13 | TNSe | I know because my main is spriest P: |
| 14:19.27 | TNSe | and now I'm levelling a priest for healing >_< |
| 14:19.30 | Nefarion | affliction alone can handle a lot, but with the ability to move group-to-group having the frost mage follow behind and freeze then nuke/aoe makes it 10x more effective |
| 14:19.59 | [Ammo] | used to grind silithus with 2 affliction locks + random healer |
| 14:20.01 | neenee | not 9x? |
| 14:20.04 | neenee | or 11x? |
| 14:20.04 | neenee | :P |
| 14:20.05 | [Ammo] | just dot up whole camps and run around |
| 14:20.19 | Nefarion | i think a well-tuned, fairly knowledgeable afflock and frost mage pair can literally handle as many mobs as the game will allow in a given space |
| 14:20.24 | Ozguli | nah doesn't matter if they're poor in multitarget dps |
| 14:20.29 | Ozguli | they heal while doing that :P |
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| 14:20.39 | [Ammo] | they're not effective ozguli |
| 14:20.45 | Nefarion | think about this: |
| 14:20.54 | [Ammo] | it's cheaper to put a renew on someone |
| 14:21.14 | Ozguli | mmm. |
| 14:21.25 | Ozguli | actually I'd rather take a rogue friend |
| 14:21.42 | Ozguli | and kite anything with the 50% / 70% movement speed reduce |
| 14:22.01 | Nefarion | warlock starts out on mob one: fear, ua, dot dot. move to a group of 5: open on first with ua, dot dot, move to the rest running through full instant-dot rotation, then howl making all 5 scatter. move on to the next group repeating dot rotation and have the frost mage freeze rather than fear, move to next 2-3 and drain tank down. |
| 14:22.31 | Nefarion | that's like 15 and it's not too hard |
| 14:22.44 | Nefarion | well, assuming you push up your drain tank to 4 |
| 14:22.51 | Ozguli | hmm, now I remember we were aoe slaying stuff with my frost mage friend |
| 14:22.53 | Nefarion | which you can if you open with death coil |
| 14:24.14 | Nefarion | 70 geared aff grinding is insane too. without a doubt the best in the game. |
| 14:24.28 | Ozguli | deserves to be nerfed |
| 14:24.35 | Nefarion | SHHHHHHH |
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| 14:24.40 | Nefarion | don't let them find out |
| 14:24.46 | Nefarion | =D |
| 14:24.55 | Ozguli | rogue's deadly throw gets nerfed :\ |
| 14:25.18 | Nefarion | good. god-damn rogues with their stuns and their CloS. *mumbles* |
| 14:25.27 | Nefarion | =P |
| 14:25.43 | Ozguli | oh? |
| 14:25.57 | Ozguli | fear one, they use trinket and are totally vulnerable after that |
| 14:26.26 | Ozguli | CoS lasts just 5 seconds, doesn't help that much... and I wish vanish worked even sometimes :P |
| 14:26.31 | Nefarion | handling rogues isn't really hard if you do it right but it's still an *annoying* match |
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| 14:27.02 | TNSe | 70 geared aff lock |
| 14:27.04 | Ozguli | beating anything as a not-so-epic rogue is a WHOAH |
| 14:27.05 | TNSe | or sl/sl lock |
| 14:27.07 | TNSe | lol |
| 14:27.13 | Nefarion | gah sl/sl is easy mode |
| 14:27.16 | Health | Are you friends with wowace Kalroth ? |
| 14:27.19 | TNSe | for farming Nefarion |
| 14:27.31 | Kalroth | Health: I am friends with noone! |
| 14:27.37 | Nefarion | never considered sl/sl for farming |
| 14:27.46 | Health | You left with drama and emo last time |
| 14:27.49 | Nefarion | i can't imagine anything comparing to mass dot + instant fear myself |
| 14:27.55 | Kalroth | I did? |
| 14:28.04 | Health | yes |
| 14:28.26 | Nefarion | well i gotta go eat something. afk like 5 min. |
| 14:28.30 | Kalroth | Well isn't that what this channel is about? |
| 14:28.53 | Nefarion | lol |
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| 14:29.57 | Health | Fin: Why is Kalroth here? |
| 14:30.20 | Kalroth | Health: Stop blowing my cover, I'm lurking |
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| 14:36.54 | CIA-7 | 03philosound * r53426 10Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 14:36.54 | CIA-7 | Numen: |
| 14:36.54 | CIA-7 | - Duration Timers are now aware of Totemic Call |
| 14:38.52 | Nefarion | it has come: now they're crying about UA. i knew there would be no end. |
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| 14:48.57 | CIA-7 | 03starinnia * r53427 10Prescription/Prescription.lua: Prescription: Further review of pre-TBC elixirs, Thanks Zidomo |
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| 14:52.10 | Spiffy2 | any fubar plugin experienced people around? |
| 14:52.20 | evl | slightly. |
| 14:52.23 | Nefarion | umm, what'ya need? |
| 14:52.28 | evl | asking to ask is the worst way to ask :) |
| 14:53.10 | Spiffy2 | yea but I've asked before and couldn't find anyone so I figured I'd see if anyone was around that could even answer it =p |
| 14:53.29 | steev64 | hm, yata's svn is messed up, failing to access trunk? |
| 14:53.54 | steev64 | or maybe not |
| 14:54.29 | Nefarion | we can't know unless you post the actual question. =) |
| 14:54.34 | Spiffy2 | basically I'm just wondering if anyone can figure out why FuBar doesn't recognize this plugin but ace2 says it's enabled: http://ace.pastey.net/76108 |
| 14:54.39 | Nefarion | go ahead. if we can we'll answer it. you've got nothing to lose. |
| 14:55.22 | Spiffy2 | I thought I'd implemented everything that FuBar required of a plugin |
| 14:55.28 | CIA-7 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r53428 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.lua MrPlow.toc PlowEngine.lua): MrPlow:committing so I can access at work |
| 14:56.10 | Nefarion | any errors? |
| 14:56.14 | Wobin | Just incidentally, are you trying for fubar 2 or 3? |
| 14:56.25 | evl | Hmms, registerDB there? |
| 14:56.26 | Wobin | (it's 3 now, isn't it?) |
| 14:56.33 | Spiffy2 | hm.. |
| 14:56.34 | Nefarion | FuBarPlugin-2.0 works with the latest |
| 14:56.34 | evl | i think you need registerdb in oninitialize |
| 14:56.48 | Nefarion | nah i've seen it registered outside of that |
| 14:56.55 | Wobin | The db shouldn't matter |
| 14:56.57 | Nefarion | that shouldn't kill the addon though |
| 14:57.08 | Spiffy2 | yea idk about the version, let me check |
| 14:57.21 | Nefarion | are you SURE it's not being recognized? maybe it isn't showing up but is in FuBar's plugin list. |
| 14:57.31 | Wobin | grab deucecommander or something |
| 14:57.34 | Wobin | and see if it's listed there |
| 14:57.44 | Wobin | Do you have BugSack running? |
| 14:57.53 | [Ammo] | ooh a mrplow commit |
| 14:57.55 | Spiffy2 | i have 3.0 installed, its not listed in deucecommander and not showing up in the plugin list |
| 14:58.03 | Wobin | [Ammo]: it's nothing serious |
| 14:58.05 | Spiffy2 | no, I can get bugsack tho |
| 14:58.06 | Wobin | not even working |
| 14:58.13 | Wobin | Aye, grab Bugsack |
| 14:58.20 | Wobin | cause it'll tell you if there are any loading errors |
| 14:58.29 | Nefarion | Spiffy2, a side-note: at line 26, make those variables local =X |
| 14:58.44 | Wobin | hehe agreed =) |
| 14:58.57 | Wobin | and line 24 |
| 14:59.09 | Wobin | oh wait it's already local |
| 14:59.09 | Nefarion | and you can use _ as a dummy variable, and you don't need to list anything past officernote, since you don't use them |
| 14:59.09 | Wobin | nm |
| 14:59.27 | Spiffy2 | good point |
| 14:59.48 | Nefarion | local _, _, _, _, _, _, _, officernote = GetGuildRosterInfo(i) |
| 14:59.55 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.57 | evl | LUA IS SO PRETTY |
| 14:59.58 | evl | ;) |
| 14:59.59 | Wobin | if you're only after officernote |
| 15:00.01 | Nefarion | lol |
| 15:00.14 | Wobin | select(GetGuildRosterInfo(i), 8) |
| 15:00.15 | evl | local officernote = select(8, GetGuildRosterInfo(i)) |
| 15:00.16 | Wobin | or somesuch |
| 15:00.18 | evl | damnit! |
| 15:00.20 | Wobin | that's the way |
| 15:00.27 | Wobin | I wasn't sure of the order of arguments |
| 15:00.30 | Wobin | so go for what evl did |
| 15:00.31 | evl | me neitehr ;) |
| 15:00.31 | Spiffy2 | ah nice |
| 15:00.35 | hyperChipmunk | local officernote = select(GuildRosterInfo...yeh |
| 15:00.41 | Wobin | or better yet, look it up =) |
| 15:00.52 | Nefarion | ah right |
| 15:00.54 | Nefarion | >> |
| 15:01.06 | Nefarion | (i got 1 hours of sleep!) lawl |
| 15:01.08 | Nefarion | 2* |
| 15:03.31 | Nefarion | maybe it's something in Lua i don't know, but what's line 28 doing? |
| 15:03.33 | Nefarion | =/ |
| 15:03.40 | Spiffy2 | trying bugsack, i'll see if that shows anything |
| 15:03.46 | Nefarion | hyjalcnt++? |
| 15:03.48 | Wobin | oh yeah |
| 15:03.51 | Wobin | lua doesn't have that |
| 15:04.00 | Spiffy2 | mm.. i hate transitioning between languages |
| 15:04.12 | Spiffy2 | does it support +=? |
| 15:04.14 | Wobin | you'll need hyjalcnt = hyjalcnt + 1 |
| 15:04.21 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53429 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:04.21 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - CallBackHandler: |
| 15:04.21 | CIA-7 | - ACE-67: Fix problem with registering more callbacks inside a callback. |
| 15:04.37 | Wobin | Good spot, Nef =) |
| 15:04.51 | Wobin | oh |
| 15:04.51 | Fin | Health: he can't resist the smell of peaches in the air and the aura of joy combined with peace to all that this channel gives you |
| 15:04.55 | Spiffy2 | ah thats gotta be it |
| 15:05.00 | Spiffy2 | it showed up in bugsack too |
| 15:05.01 | Nefarion | it should still work in fubar, unless i'm missing something |
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| 15:05.28 | Nefarion | well, test that fix first |
| 15:06.22 | Nefarion | at line 35, you don't need to pass nil, the absence of a pass will indicate nil |
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| 15:06.51 | Spiffy2 | ah that worked now |
| 15:07.02 | Nefarion | actually i don't see where you're even using arg1.. |
| 15:07.18 | Spiffy2 | i was planning on possibly using that later |
| 15:07.23 | Nefarion | ah i see |
| 15:07.30 | Nefarion | did that fix it though? |
| 15:07.58 | Spiffy2 | yea |
| 15:08.01 | Nefarion | awesome |
| 15:08.05 | Spiffy2 | thank you =) |
| 15:08.42 | Nefarion | oh, if string.find(officernote, "hyjal attuned") ~= nil then can be if string.find(officernote, "hyjal attuned") then |
| 15:09.17 | hyperChipmunk | if not |
| 15:09.22 | hyperChipmunk | oh n/m |
| 15:09.37 | Nefarion | doesn't that return false anyway? that wouldn't evaluate anything.. |
| 15:09.39 | hyperChipmunk | stupid squigglies |
| 15:10.02 | hyperChipmunk | no, it returns nil i'm pretty sure |
| 15:10.09 | Nefarion | yeah just check it, it's nil |
| 15:10.12 | hyperChipmunk | lua> string.find("foo", "bar") |
| 15:10.13 | cladbot | hyperChipmunk: nil, |
| 15:10.14 | Nefarion | ed* |
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| 15:12.33 | Wobin | also, nil counts as false |
| 15:15.07 | Nefarion | not if it specifically says nil |
| 15:15.19 | Nefarion | lua> false ~= nil |
| 15:15.19 | cladbot | Nefarion: true |
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| 15:15.45 | CIA-7 | 03philosound 07philosound * r53430 10Numen/: |
| 15:15.45 | CIA-7 | Numen: |
| 15:15.45 | CIA-7 | - created a branch to play around |
| 15:18.34 | Wobin | night all |
| 15:20.51 | Fisker- | i hate you Wobin |
| 15:20.54 | Fisker- | night |
| 15:21.00 | Chompers | byeee |
| 15:21.04 | Fisker- | even though it's only night in russia |
| 15:21.06 | siIentium | lua> not not nil |
| 15:21.07 | cladbot | siIentium: false |
| 15:21.40 | Codexius | !seen [Ammo] |
| 15:21.40 | siIentium | so nil counts as false in conditionals |
| 15:21.45 | Nefarion | not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not nil |
| 15:21.47 | Nefarion | oops |
| 15:21.48 | Codexius | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 15:21.49 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 23m 56s, last said: 'ooh a mrplow commit'. |
| 15:21.52 | Nefarion | lua> not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not not nil |
| 15:21.52 | cladbot | Nefarion: false |
| 15:22.05 | Codexius | ~seen [Ammoo] |
| 15:22.06 | purl | [ammoo] is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'damn basement servers'. |
| 15:22.31 | Nefarion | si, in conditional both nil and false evaluate as false yes, but when specifically checking for "nil" or "false", they don't both work |
| 15:22.38 | CIA-7 | 03philosound 07philosound * r53431 10Numen/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:22.38 | CIA-7 | Numen: |
| 15:22.38 | CIA-7 | - wrong location damn |
| 15:22.41 | Nefarion | lua> false == nil, false ~= nil |
| 15:22.41 | cladbot | Nefarion: false, true |
| 15:22.43 | siIentium | I guess a single pair of "not not" is enough if you just need a toBool ;) |
| 15:23.41 | siIentium | lua> not not nil == false |
| 15:23.41 | cladbot | siIentium: true |
| 15:23.43 | siIentium | :) |
| 15:24.05 | Nefarion | not not works on nil before false does =) |
| 15:24.05 | si-m1 | lua> 2 + 2 ~= 5 |
| 15:24.05 | cladbot | si-m1: true |
| 15:24.11 | CIA-7 | 03philosound 07philosound * r53432 10Numen/Numen/: |
| 15:24.11 | CIA-7 | Numen: |
| 15:24.11 | CIA-7 | - created a branch to play around |
| 15:24.28 | Nefarion | making it evaluate out so you're checking (not not nil) against false |
| 15:24.28 | siIentium | yeah, that's how it was intended |
| 15:25.02 | siIentium | lua> false == not not nil |
| 15:25.03 | cladbot | siIentium: true |
| 15:25.08 | siIentium | to make it more clear |
| 15:26.17 | siIentium | operator precedence rules are a nice thing to know |
| 15:26.30 | Nefarion | mhmm |
| 15:26.35 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53433 10GridIndicatorSideIcons/ (5 files): GridIndicatorSideIcons: initial commit |
| 15:29.32 | siIentium | and with just 8 priority layers it's quite easy, compared to the 18 layers of C++ |
| 15:30.03 | Grum | lua> t={1,2,3}; #t |
| 15:30.03 | cladbot | Grum: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "t={1,2,3}; #t"]:1: unexpected symbol near '#' |
| 15:30.08 | Grum | booo |
| 15:30.19 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53434 10GridStatusMTs/ (16 files in 2 dirs): GridStatusMTs: initial commit |
| 15:30.29 | Gnarfoz | lua> t={1,2,3}; print(#t) |
| 15:30.29 | cladbot | Gnarfoz: 3 |
| 15:30.30 | Grum | lua> t={1,2,3}; true == #t |
| 15:30.30 | cladbot | Grum: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "t={1,2,3}; true == #t"]:1: unexpected symbol near 'true' |
| 15:30.55 | Grum | the thing i hate most about lua is that '#' doesnt work on dicts |
| 15:31.22 | Nefarion | does that lua bot save globals between messages? |
| 15:31.26 | Nefarion | lua> t |
| 15:31.26 | cladbot | Nefarion: nil |
| 15:31.29 | Nefarion | ah gah |
| 15:31.30 | Grum | so you end up with: if #t or next(t) then .. end |
| 15:31.48 | pastamancer | you'd only need if next(t) in that case |
| 15:31.56 | Grum | nope: |
| 15:32.01 | nevcairiel | i suppose you should always know what your table looks like |
| 15:32.11 | Grum | lua> t={1,2,3}; print( next(t) ) |
| 15:32.11 | cladbot | Grum: 1, 1 |
| 15:32.14 | Grum | mmm |
| 15:32.18 | Grum | why does that work ^^ |
| 15:32.20 | Nefarion | true nev |
| 15:32.26 | pastamancer | because next is a generic iterator |
| 15:32.30 | Nefarion | why wouldn't it Grum? |
| 15:32.30 | Grum | yeah |
| 15:32.37 | Grum | now i wonder what my real problem was |
| 15:32.42 | Grum | prolly getting the amounts of keys in a dict |
| 15:32.46 | Grum | -s |
| 15:32.59 | nevcairiel | you wouldve to loop and count |
| 15:33.11 | Gnarfoz | (also, it doesn't fail because now you're actually printing?) |
| 15:34.44 | Grum | nevcairiel: would love to do a: #table.keys( t ) orso O.o |
| 15:35.04 | nevcairiel | mm i suppose that could work |
| 15:35.39 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53435 10GridStatusRaidIcons/ (14 files in 2 dirs): GridStatusRaidIcons: initial commit |
| 15:36.34 | pastamancer | Grum: I honestly don't think I've ever wanted to be able to do that in lua. You could use some metatable magic if you really wanted that to work though. |
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| 15:37.59 | Grum | pastamancer: listing the number of keys is quite 'normal' imho :) |
| 15:38.17 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53436 10GridStatusTargetName/ (5 files): GridStatusTargetName: initial commit |
| 15:39.41 | pastamancer | Grum: I do $#array plenty in perl, but haven't wanted/needed to in wow |
| 15:40.03 | Grum | erm $#array is not the same |
| 15:40.14 | pastamancer | hmm, oh, tru |
| 15:40.19 | Nefarion | Cogwheel's Lua 5.1.1 WoW doesn't implement WoW's API, does it? |
| 15:40.25 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:40.25 | pastamancer | $#(keys(%foo)) then |
| 15:40.25 | Grum | scalar keys %hash would be |
| 15:40.31 | Grum | iew |
| 15:40.34 | pastamancer | heh |
| 15:40.38 | Grum | that wouldn't work either btw |
| 15:40.42 | pastamancer | it's been a while |
| 15:40.44 | nevcairiel | Nefarion: only the lua additions blizzy added, no API |
| 15:40.51 | Nefarion | gah |
| 15:41.10 | Grum | perl <3 |
| 15:41.30 | nevcairiel | perl is ugly :x |
| 15:41.37 | pastamancer | so's your face! |
| 15:42.03 | nevcairiel | ya, but that doesnt make perl better now |
| 15:42.33 | Nefarion | i believe somebody was just told |
| 15:42.37 | SunTsu | .o0( perl is great. It's just people who write ugly code with it. ) |
| 15:42.54 | nevcairiel | lets just say, perl makes it easy to write ugly code |
| 15:43.29 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Sure it does. That's what freedom is about ;) |
| 15:43.40 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53437 10GridIndicatorText3/ (5 files): GridIndicatorText3: initial commit - needs some tweaks: please use only if Text2 is enabled |
| 15:45.47 | CIA-7 | 03celellach * r53438 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 15:45.47 | CIA-7 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 15:45.47 | CIA-7 | - Added 2 quest reward pots to Ogrila |
| 15:45.51 | Spiffy2 | there was nothing wrong with my for loop was there? I added debug statements and it seems like it's not getting past 0 |
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| 15:48.26 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53439 10GridStatusThreat/ (7 files in 2 dirs): GridStatusThreat: initial commit |
| 15:49.54 | Nefarion | where Spiffy2? |
| 15:50.17 | Nefarion | relink the code |
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| 15:50.37 | Spiffy2 | http://ace.pastey.net/76108 |
| 15:50.49 | Spiffy2 | line 25 |
| 15:53.31 | Nefarion | sorry, trying to debug some code peppered with typos lol |
| 15:53.51 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53440 10GridStatusThreat/libs/: GridStatusThreat: externals |
| 15:54.21 | Megalon | Spiffy2: GetNumGuildMembers returns 2 values |
| 15:54.49 | Nefarion | no it doesn't |
| 15:54.54 | Megalon | ah |
| 15:55.02 | Megalon | looked at the wrong example :c |
| 15:55.03 | Nefarion | 0 doesn't count as false btw |
| 15:55.33 | Nefarion | change that to "false" (no quotes) if you don't want to include offline players, true if you do |
| 15:55.43 | shieldb | hmm, does violation give an option to show combined raid dps in the fubar text instead of my personal dps? |
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| 15:56.49 | Nefarion | Spiffy2, start your loop at 1, not 0 |
| 15:57.01 | Nefarion | that and fix the boolean pass and tell me what happens |
| 15:57.19 | Spiffy2 | k |
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| 15:58.43 | Spiffy2 | ah there we go |
| 15:58.51 | Spiffy2 | its working now |
| 15:59.34 | Spiffy2 | thanks again for all the help |
| 16:00.35 | CIA-7 | 03helium * r53441 10InFlight_Load/ (Defaults.lua InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc): |
| 16:00.35 | CIA-7 | InFlight_Load |
| 16:00.35 | CIA-7 | - added zhTW localization |
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| 16:10.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ~botmail for Elkano: I was wrong, looks like blizzard reenabled disconnects on item query |
| 16:12.08 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53442 10Ace3/CallbackHandler-1.0/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: |
| 16:12.08 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - CallbackHandler: |
| 16:12.08 | CIA-7 | - ACE-67: Also fix for recursively recursive registrations. (Oargh!!!) |
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| 16:16.39 | CIA-7 | 03pettigrow * r53443 10Grid/GridLocale-frFR.lua: Grid: frFR Update |
| 16:17.33 | Pkekyo | http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/282/6/8/68e7f97a75a3a005.png anyone know how this've been made? |
| 16:18.34 | Mudkips | VECTORING |
| 16:19.00 | Fisker- | Pkekyo it's photoshopped |
| 16:19.04 | Mudkips | clearly |
| 16:19.06 | Mudkips | fake |
| 16:19.13 | Fisker- | i can see from the pixels and having seen quite a few shops in my time |
| 16:19.19 | Kemayo | Lukian: How so? |
| 16:19.31 | Mudkips | hi6 Fisker- _o/ |
| 16:19.41 | Mudkips | not only 5 but 6 |
| 16:19.55 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: duh... how do reproduce it? |
| 16:20.13 | Pkekyo | Mudkips: there's certainly no vectoring involved |
| 16:20.16 | Fisker- | right-click the image and press save as |
| 16:20.31 | Pkekyo | aye? |
| 16:20.50 | Fisker- | you're no fun :( |
| 16:20.57 | Fisker- | i made über funnies and you're liek "huh?" |
| 16:21.08 | Pkekyo | because IS NUT FUNNEAH |
| 16:21.18 | Fisker- | :((( |
| 16:21.18 | Nefarion | lol Fikser- |
| 16:21.22 | Nefarion | uber funnies indeed |
| 16:21.23 | Fisker- | you're hurting my feeling |
| 16:21.27 | Mudkips | sokay Fisker- |
| 16:21.30 | hyperChipmunk | actually, that was pretty clever, for Fisker- |
| 16:21.31 | Mudkips | I thought it was funneh |
| 16:21.52 | Chompers | you have a feeling Fisker-? |
| 16:21.56 | Chompers | is it RAGE |
| 16:22.05 | Pkekyo | "Not enough rage!" |
| 16:22.08 | Pkekyo | luls |
| 16:22.13 | Pkekyo | Fisker-'s a loladin though |
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| 16:23.15 | Pkekyo | noone know how I can reproduce that? |
| 16:23.55 | Fisker- | mana is our rage :( |
| 16:24.00 | Fisker- | we always have lots of it |
| 16:24.17 | JoshBorke | i never have mana :-( |
| 16:24.27 | Nefarion | dark pact > all |
| 16:24.57 | Pkekyo | I've macroed /oom to ALL my abilities on my warrior :p |
| 16:25.09 | Nefarion | haha |
| 16:25.20 | Chompers | wish feral druids gave me rage |
| 16:25.24 | Chompers | like the spriest pally thing |
| 16:25.34 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 16:26.56 | Fisker- | i need an 8800 GT :( |
| 16:27.14 | Nefarion | how does lua sort indexes in its tables? i had assumed what was created last would appear as the last entry in the table but apparently not. |
| 16:28.05 | Nefarion | i have local options = { ["color"] = {}, ["brackets"] = {}, ["reset"] = {}, } and brackets is last when i iterate |
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| 16:31.23 | Nefarion | lua> options={color={},brackets={},reset={},}; for k in pairs(options) do print(k) end |
| 16:31.24 | cladbot | Nefarion: color, reset, brackets |
| 16:32.24 | Fisker- | Anyone know what to against leotheras when he mindcontrols the tank? |
| 16:32.52 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53444 10Ace3/tests/ (runall.bat runall.sh): |
| 16:32.52 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 16:32.52 | CIA-7 | - runall.bat / .sh will now actually run callbackhandler also. (Pattern is now -?.*.lua) |
| 16:32.54 | Fisker- | It's pretty much at a point where he can kill the demon but then our warlock will tank the whole encounter :I |
| 16:33.19 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53445 10Ace3/tests/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: |
| 16:33.19 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 16:33.19 | CIA-7 | - The test for recursive recursion in ACE-69 |
| 16:33.35 | Nefarion | lua> options={["1:color"]={},["2:brackets"]={},["3:reset"]={},}; for k in pairs(options) do print(k) end |
| 16:33.35 | cladbot | Nefarion: 3:reset, 2:brackets, 1:color |
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| 16:34.09 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53446 10Ace3/tests/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: |
| 16:34.09 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 16:34.09 | CIA-7 | - I meant ACE-67 |
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| 16:35.31 | Mire | hey kids |
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| 16:42.09 | CIA-7 | 03kunda * r53447 10GridStatusThreat/libs/: GridStatusThreat: externals II. |
| 16:42.10 | CIA-7 | 03nefarion * r53448 10ChainLink/ (. ChainLink.lua ChainLink.toc): |
| 16:42.10 | CIA-7 | ChainLink |
| 16:42.10 | CIA-7 | - Initial commit: Adds URL and chat-channel hyper-linking to the chat frames. |
| 16:42.10 | CIA-7 | - Dry-coded branch changes *should* be fixed. |
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| 16:45.17 | Nefarion | (new to svn): i'm assuming that automatically gets added to files.wowace.com? |
| 16:45.31 | Fisker- | what does? |
| 16:45.43 | Nefarion | the thing i just commited.. |
| 16:45.47 | Nefarion | ChainLink |
| 16:45.59 | Fisker- | yes if it passes the pre-commit scripts it will |
| 16:46.06 | Nefarion | it did =D |
| 16:46.07 | Fisker- | or post-commit |
| 16:46.08 | Fisker- | or whatever |
| 16:46.17 | Nefarion | oh well it's in the trunk folder |
| 16:46.30 | nevcairiel | if your .toc is set right |
| 16:46.32 | Fisker- | you'll see for sure in 15 minutes |
| 16:46.34 | nevcairiel | externals are right |
| 16:46.37 | nevcairiel | then it'll work |
| 16:46.43 | Nefarion | no externals, it's independant |
| 16:47.33 | Nefarion | Cairenn is the admin of WoWI, right? |
| 16:47.39 | Cairenn | correct |
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| 16:48.06 | Cairenn | Nefarion: what's up? |
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| 16:48.57 | siIentium | ~sed |
| 16:48.58 | purl | GNU Stream Editor. URL: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ |
| 16:49.29 | siIentium | ~purl |
| 16:49.29 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, purl is purl |
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| 16:55.42 | CIA-7 | 03funkydude 07Ace3 * r53449 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.toc libs/): ag_UnitFrames: fix externals, point LibStub to tag not trunk. |
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| 16:59.17 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53450 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:59.17 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - CallbackHandler: |
| 16:59.17 | CIA-7 | - ACE-67: Unregistrations of queued registrations now also works properly. Test added. |
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| 17:03.32 | Fisker- | ~sæd |
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| 17:08.23 | Pkekyo | ~whalecrit Fisker- |
| 17:08.23 | purl | ACTION crits Fisker- with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Fisker- dies |
| 17:08.23 | Pkekyo | me |
| 17:08.23 | Pkekyo | h |
| 17:09.01 | Kaydeethree | anyone have a list of what mods have been causing assertion failures on the PTR? QA's looking for help |
| 17:09.06 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2649577104&postId=26810876095&sid=1#7 |
| 17:11.49 | CIA-7 | 03cronan * r53451 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/AddonSpamFu.lua: |
| 17:11.49 | CIA-7 | FuBar_AddonSpamFu: |
| 17:11.49 | CIA-7 | - Update koKR |
| 17:11.53 | Nefarion | i've only heard that coming from AgUF |
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| 17:21.11 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo * r53452 10/branches/BankStack/: BankStack: Create branch folder. |
| 17:23.05 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo 07dev * r53453 10BankStack/: BankStack: Branch for drycoding. |
| 17:23.13 | Kemayo | Oh, for recursive folder creation on copy. |
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| 17:33.46 | NeoTron | we're down to the last boss before archimonde in hyjal |
| 17:33.49 | NeoTron | that trash is brutal |
| 17:34.16 | nevcairiel | the trash before kazrogal is worse then before azgalor |
| 17:34.17 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 17:34.26 | nevcairiel | the infernals are easy |
| 17:35.37 | NeoTron | well |
| 17:35.42 | NeoTron | the first two waves sucked |
| 17:35.51 | NeoTron | and the 6-necro pulls were brutal |
| 17:36.04 | NeoTron | we probably had ar ather bad balanced raid for the trash - 1 mage, 1 rogue |
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| 17:36.21 | NeoTron | we never made it to azgalor |
| 17:36.29 | NeoTron | but we also only had about 40m left after killing kaz |
| 17:36.33 | NeoTron | that trash was brutal too |
| 17:36.40 | NeoTron | quite a surprise after the first two |
| 17:36.50 | NeoTron | I think part of the reason is the larger size of the cam |
| 17:36.53 | NeoTron | camp |
| 17:37.06 | NeoTron | by the time we got to kaz, only thrall was left (at least anywhere near kaz) |
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| 17:41.15 | Xinhuan | you should see wave 6 |
| 17:41.25 | Xinhuan | it has 8 necros and 6 banshees |
| 17:41.46 | Xinhuan | you sheep 3, mind control 2, and fear the other 2 or so |
| 17:42.06 | Xinhuan | and grounding totem eats the first wave of "8 shadowbolts" which all fly to it |
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| 17:44.36 | Xinhuan | to rescue the "taurens" and thrall, you need to send warlocks out to "banish" extra infernals to wherever has 2-3 land, but other than that, its actually easier |
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| 17:47.15 | [gk]Ossy | good evening |
| 17:47.37 | [gk]Ossy | I am in desperate need of a advice |
| 17:47.44 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 17:48.11 | [gk]Ossy | I need to get rid of my minimap but I cant seem to find a minimap addon that let's me do it |
| 17:48.12 | [gk]Ossy | :S |
| 17:48.20 | kaiden | simpleMiniMap |
| 17:48.24 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 17:48.43 | Xinhuan | why do you want to get rid of it? |
| 17:49.00 | [gk]Ossy | cos I dont want it to spoil my ui :p |
| 17:49.08 | [gk]Ossy | and simpleminimap wont let me remove it |
| 17:49.14 | Xinhuan | minimaps are useful, and are often the only way to see things on it - such as mining/herb nodes |
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| 17:49.20 | Xinhuan | or hunter tracking |
| 17:49.29 | Xinhuan | or with 2.3 changes, any type of vendor tracking |
| 17:49.34 | Xinhuan | and quest giver tracking |
| 17:49.36 | [gk]Ossy | I got 2 crafting proffesions and I'm a rogue :p |
| 17:49.56 | [gk]Ossy | and I dont do quests anymore |
| 17:49.59 | [gk]Ossy | so I just dont need it |
| 17:50.18 | Xinhuan | i don't think i know of any other addon that hides the minimap |
| 17:50.21 | ulic | I'd imagine you could do a FrameName:Hide() on it. |
| 17:51.03 | [gk]Ossy | I'd imagine I know jack shit about coding that's why I decided to ask the pros :p |
| 17:51.13 | kaiden | [gk]Hotphoenix, yes simpleMiniMap lets you hide your UI |
| 17:51.20 | kaiden | erm... [gk]Ossy... that is |
| 17:51.31 | kaiden | ui = minimap |
| 17:51.42 | kaiden | you set a keybinding to Toggle Minimap in your keybindings frame |
| 17:52.04 | [gk]Ossy | oh |
| 17:52.09 | [gk]Ossy | that's just to simple |
| 17:52.12 | Xinhuan | the minimap is still something useful to have |
| 17:52.22 | Xinhuan | to see where your party members are, for example |
| 17:52.39 | [gk]Ossy | I dont care about my party members, if they arent on my screen they arent usefull for me :p |
| 17:53.19 | Xinhuan | i think you're the first person to come in requseting to hide it i've ever seen ;p |
| 17:53.38 | [gk]Ossy | I supose you are right |
| 17:53.51 | [gk]Ossy | that's why I had such a hard time acctualy doing so :p |
| 17:53.54 | [gk]Ossy | but thanks alot kaiden |
| 17:54.47 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: we got to wave 6.. it was .. pain |
| 17:55.11 | NeoTron | mind control is something we didn't use though |
| 17:55.19 | [gk]Ossy | hyjal trash? |
| 17:55.21 | NeoTron | but we had like 3 SP's and 3 holy at that time |
| 17:55.24 | NeoTron | [gk]Ossy: yep |
| 17:55.41 | [gk]Ossy | MC the necros and your melee dps will love you forever ;p |
| 17:56.11 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 17:56.18 | Xinhuan | you definitely need mindcontrol on that wave |
| 17:56.21 | Xinhuan | or you'll get ripped |
| 17:56.31 | [gk]Ossy | what bosses trash? |
| 17:56.40 | Xinhuan | azgalor trash wave 6 |
| 17:56.42 | [gk]Ossy | azgalor I guess |
| 17:56.48 | Xinhuan | 8 necros and 4 or 6 banshees |
| 17:57.03 | [gk]Ossy | it's just 6 necros nowadays |
| 17:57.07 | [gk]Ossy | and 6 banshees |
| 17:57.12 | [gk]Ossy | I think |
| 17:57.13 | Mudkips | MC necros? |
| 17:57.18 | Mudkips | haha never seen that done before |
| 17:57.21 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 17:57.23 | Xinhuan | yah you can mind control those |
| 17:57.23 | [gk]Ossy | and get 100% attack speed buff |
| 17:57.28 | Xinhuan | and give buffs to your melee dps |
| 17:57.39 | NeoTron | wow ok |
| 17:57.41 | Xinhuan | and they help shadowbolt them back |
| 17:57.58 | Mudkips | I've been insta-gibbed by those guys way too much |
| 17:58.07 | Eggi | warior with spellreflect is normaly enough there |
| 17:58.07 | Xinhuan | there's like 8 of them, so sheep 3, fear 1 or 2, MC 1 or 2, you'll be ok |
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| 17:58.18 | Mudkips | abom damage + shadowbolts right after grounding is gone >_< |
| 17:58.20 | [gk]Ossy | rogue with CoS eating SBs at start ftw |
| 17:58.28 | Eggi | +r |
| 17:58.41 | Xinhuan | 1 grounding with 8 shadowbolts flying at it is pretty fun to watch too |
| 17:59.32 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: sheep 3. lol |
| 17:59.59 | Xinhuan | why? have an issue fielding 3 mages? :) |
| 18:00.54 | NeoTron | we have 2 active raiding ones atm |
| 18:00.58 | NeoTron | often just run with 1 |
| 18:01.03 | Xinhuan | recruit more |
| 18:01.09 | NeoTron | but typically run with 4-5 locks |
| 18:01.20 | Xinhuan | if you don't have 2-3 mages, you'll die to lack of decursing on archimonde |
| 18:01.30 | Xinhuan | unless you have like a bajillion druids |
| 18:01.54 | Punkie` | is the public svn kaput forever or has it just been down for the past few days? |
| 18:02.10 | CIA-7 | 03kemayo 07dev * r53456 10BankStack/core.lua: |
| 18:02.10 | CIA-7 | BankStack: |
| 18:02.10 | CIA-7 | -Add argument to core.Stack, can_move (function). |
| 18:02.10 | CIA-7 | -core.Compress now uses can_move to filter out full stacks. |
| 18:02.20 | NeoTron | we have 3 currently active druids |
| 18:02.28 | Xinhuan | 5-6 decursers recommended |
| 18:02.40 | NeoTron | getting another one maybe today and another one returning from vacation in 20 days or so |
| 18:02.44 | Xinhuan | so if one of them doesn't turn up, it'll be bad |
| 18:02.45 | NeoTron | i.e we'll have 5 soon enough |
| 18:02.58 | NeoTron | but yes, we are planning to pick up another mage (we just lost one going on hiatus) |
| 18:03.14 | Xinhuan | anyway, you're replacing mages with locks while the mages are gone, so just change a sheep to a chainfear ;p |
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| 18:03.37 | NeoTron | that's what we've been trying |
| 18:03.46 | NeoTron | but we were already badly battered then |
| 18:03.47 | Maaads | is there some kind of ace2 inspect addon? name? |
| 18:03.48 | [gk]Ossy | http://tinyurl.com/3bvyah |
| 18:03.49 | [gk]Ossy | there |
| 18:03.53 | Xinhuan | doesn't really quite work as well though |
| 18:03.55 | [gk]Ossy | WITHOUT minimap |
| 18:03.59 | NeoTron | the fel hounts/infernals were rather simple though |
| 18:04.13 | Xinhuan | its wave 1 and 6 that are the hardest imo |
| 18:04.21 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 18:04.28 | NeoTron | so we were surprised on kaz trash |
| 18:04.31 | NeoTron | think wave 6 or so |
| 18:04.41 | NeoTron | that had gargoyles and crap that we didn't expect |
| 18:04.52 | NeoTron | maybe not 6 but one of them (where they come from the front, not back) |
| 18:04.53 | CIA-7 | 03nefarion * r53457 10ChainLink/ChainLink.toc: |
| 18:04.54 | CIA-7 | ChainLink |
| 18:04.54 | CIA-7 | - ToC changes. |
| 18:05.06 | [gk]Ossy | they come from ontop of you NeoTron |
| 18:05.15 | NeoTron | yeah we know now |
| 18:05.20 | NeoTron | we just didn't expect it then |
| 18:05.21 | [gk]Ossy | where all guidepages say that you will get zillions of aboms :p |
| 18:05.29 | NeoTron | right |
| 18:05.33 | NeoTron | that's why we didn't expect it |
| 18:05.42 | NeoTron | they will forever be known as "surprise gargoyles" now |
| 18:05.49 | NeoTron | even when we very clearly know they are coming |
| 18:05.53 | CIA-7 | 03eggi * r53458 10KeepItCool/core.lua: |
| 18:05.54 | CIA-7 | KeepItCool: |
| 18:05.54 | CIA-7 | -- Added a few options |
| 18:06.16 | [gk]Ossy | we always forget the second frostwyrm on that trash so he gibs all the taurens |
| 18:06.51 | Xinhuan | the guides are all mostly outdated |
| 18:06.55 | NeoTron | that said, 4 shadow priests (in 2 groups) were nice on kaz |
| 18:07.11 | Xinhuan | like kazrogal's guide says his warstomp can be outranged by melee |
| 18:07.13 | Xinhuan | that's so totally untrue |
| 18:07.14 | NeoTron | they used to have 12 waves right? |
| 18:07.26 | Xinhuan | bosskillers guide that is |
| 18:07.39 | Cryect | Maybe if you're a tauren you can |
| 18:07.49 | Xinhuan | it was a reference for rogues |
| 18:07.52 | buu | Hrm. Are there any sexy addons that would let me either create or grow an existing "Combat-log" type frame to take up most of the screen? |
| 18:08.09 | Xinhuan | the guide says you can stand far enough out to melee and not get hit by stomp - FALSE |
| 18:08.12 | NeoTron | nothing like them tauren rogues |
| 18:08.22 | [gk]Ossy | yea that's totaly bullshit |
| 18:08.31 | Cryect | Tauren Rogues would so get +modifiers to stealth |
| 18:08.45 | Chompers | buu: use prat and modify the chatframe size values |
| 18:08.51 | Chompers | then use simplecombatlog |
| 18:09.11 | Nefarion | what guide? |
| 18:09.56 | Xinhuan | a lot of those guides are just outdated |
| 18:10.08 | Xinhuan | like the one for azgalor says that he should be tanked > 100 yards away from Thrall |
| 18:10.13 | Xinhuan | that's also FALSE |
| 18:10.14 | buu | Chompers: Huh? |
| 18:10.30 | buu | Chompers: I want to do it dynamically. |
| 18:10.41 | Xinhuan | because Thrall's hp has been buffed since then, that he will not die to Azgalor's cleave or rain of fire |
| 18:10.59 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: how so? |
| 18:11.05 | Xinhuan | and in fact thrall himself does significant damage on azgalor |
| 18:11.06 | NeoTron | ah |
| 18:11.06 | Cryect | azgalor the reason they said that was for the demons |
| 18:11.15 | Cryect | Thrall can tank all the demons |
| 18:11.23 | NeoTron | I figured you used thrall and such for the demons |
| 18:11.30 | [gk]Ossy | so can a feral druid Cryect :p |
| 18:11.32 | Xinhuan | its safer to use 2 real tanks for the demons |
| 18:11.34 | NeoTron | and the tauren warriors if you have them |
| 18:11.42 | Xinhuan | usually prot specced |
| 18:11.57 | Cryect | [gk]Ossy: well so can anyone but when people talk about thrall far away that was why |
| 18:11.58 | Xinhuan | and have all the NPC tauren warriors and Thrall beating up Azgalor |
| 18:12.13 | Xinhuan | the tauren warriors will die after 1 min, but thrall will still > 50% when boss dies |
| 18:12.14 | NeoTron | becuase we will have so many of them left :P |
| 18:12.21 | Xinhuan | we typically have all alive |
| 18:12.24 | Cryect | Azgalor is the world's shittest melee fight though :-p |
| 18:12.27 | Xinhuan | except for maybe 1 tauren death |
| 18:12.32 | Xinhuan | when we engage the boss |
| 18:12.33 | NeoTron | heh |
| 18:12.41 | Xinhuan | so they really help on the dps |
| 18:12.42 | NeoTron | well we didn't even make it there |
| 18:12.46 | Cryect | If the RoF didn't keep ticking when you got out of it the fight wouldn't be so bad |
| 18:13.03 | Xinhuan | 3 healthstone sizes help ;p |
| 18:13.06 | NeoTron | I gather though like the other 3 that the trash is most of the fight |
| 18:13.14 | NeoTron | and once you get to the boss it doesn't take long to get him down |
| 18:13.34 | Xinhuan | azgalor is like a 4-5 minute fight max |
| 18:13.42 | Xinhuan | any longer than that you lose too many people to Doom |
| 18:13.53 | NeoTron | well in terms of difficulty |
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| 18:13.56 | NeoTron | it doesn't look that complex |
| 18:13.58 | Cryect | WEll the issue is more the demons build up than losing people to doom |
| 18:14.03 | NeoTron | just mainly keeping the tank and raid alive |
| 18:14.07 | NeoTron | with the aoe silence |
| 18:14.25 | Cryect | None of the Hyjal fights are that complex its all in the trash |
| 18:14.29 | NeoTron | right |
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| 18:14.39 | NeoTron | well Naj'entus and Supremus weren't exactly complex either |
| 18:14.46 | Xinhuan | what we do is, put shaman/pally/warlock in tank group - agility totem, devo aura, imp, curse of weakness |
| 18:14.59 | Xinhuan | reduces azgalor's hits to about 8k per hit on the tank |
| 18:15.03 | Xinhuan | instead of 10k |
| 18:15.05 | NeoTron | who the hell has imp CoW? :-P |
| 18:15.16 | Xinhuan | i said warlock imp |
| 18:15.19 | Ellipsis | I *hope* those were two separate things |
| 18:15.21 | Xinhuan | and curse of weakness ;p |
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| 18:15.27 | Xinhuan | not imp curse of weakness! |
| 18:15.28 | NeoTron | that makes more sense :P |
| 18:15.33 | Ellipsis | I'd /gquit before I let anyone make me spec imp CoW |
| 18:15.35 | NeoTron | but demo shout is better than CoW |
| 18:15.36 | Cryect | Curse of Weakness is worthless without Imp Curse of Weaknes |
| 18:15.37 | Cryect | s |
| 18:15.56 | Cryect | gets overwritten by demo shout (or if you put it on in a certain order it takes up a debuff slot while doing nothing) |
| 18:15.58 | NeoTron | unless he for some reason is immune to demo but not CoW |
| 18:16.00 | Xinhuan | well our strat involves 2 tanks tanking demons |
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| 18:16.19 | Xinhuan | so nobody to really put demo shout on apart from the MT himself |
| 18:16.36 | Cryect | MT doesn't have imp Demo Shout then? |
| 18:16.37 | Mudkips | solarian is full of lol |
| 18:16.43 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 18:16.46 | Mudkips | we came back to TK because there was nothing else to do |
| 18:16.52 | Xinhuan | no idea, i didn't check |
| 18:16.55 | Mudkips | we got blown up all over |
| 18:17.04 | Cryect | Heh well its not that unusual for the MT to not have Imp Demo |
| 18:17.07 | Mudkips | people not paying attention and all that shit |
| 18:17.12 | Xinhuan | i probably think he doesn't |
| 18:17.13 | Cryect | and let another warrior do it |
| 18:17.19 | Pkekyo | Cryect: prolly sacrificed imp. demo shout for deflection and imp. thunder clap |
| 18:17.22 | Cryect | in which case you let a warlock do it |
| 18:17.26 | Xinhuan | cos usually another warr does it |
| 18:17.33 | Pkekyo | bring a fury warrior and force him to specc imp. demo shout |
| 18:17.33 | Xinhuan | but in this case you want LESS melee on azgalor |
| 18:17.37 | Xinhuan | due to the rain of fire |
| 18:17.41 | Cryect | right |
| 18:17.55 | Xinhuan | if you have 4 or 5 melee on azgalor, its really bad since its a 20% chance of a random RoF targetting them |
| 18:17.59 | Xinhuan | and hitting all 5 of them |
| 18:18.02 | Xinhuan | including the MT |
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| 18:18.17 | Cryect | its higher than that since the NPC's are valid ROF targets :-p |
| 18:18.24 | Xinhuan | so you really only want 2-3 melee on azgalor |
| 18:18.31 | Xinhuan | and put like 1 on the demons |
| 18:18.32 | Mudkips | isn't that what curse of weakness is for? |
| 18:18.36 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 18:18.37 | Mudkips | thats what we use on every boss |
| 18:18.48 | Xinhuan | not many bosses need cow |
| 18:18.54 | Cryect | You shouldn't use CoW on every boss unless you have imp cow :-p |
| 18:18.55 | Xinhuan | only the ones that hit really hard |
| 18:18.55 | Mudkips | 3 locks every raid guarantees full curses |
| 18:19.09 | NeoTron | we're going back to SSC on tuesday for some additional attunements |
| 18:19.17 | Ellipsis | Cryect, why would you even have imp cow in the first place |
| 18:19.19 | Xinhuan | we actually put curse of recklessness up on half the bosses |
| 18:19.21 | Ellipsis | it's not that helpful |
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| 18:19.28 | Mudkips | ok not every boss but most bosses mmkay? |
| 18:19.31 | Mudkips | sheesh |
| 18:19.39 | Cryect | Who knows but you shouldn't be using CoW if you don't have it normally :_p |
| 18:19.41 | Ellipsis | unimproved CoW is better than nothing |
| 18:19.48 | Ellipsis | why not? |
| 18:19.52 | Ellipsis | it's only a 20% difference |
| 18:19.54 | Cryect | Because Imp Demo overwrites it |
| 18:20.03 | Xinhuan | well its like solarian, void reaver, kael, supremus, akama, rage winterchill, etc |
| 18:20.06 | Xinhuan | these caster bosses |
| 18:20.07 | Ellipsis | but they're not using demo |
| 18:20.12 | Xinhuan | you simply throw curse of reck up on them |
| 18:20.16 | Cryect | Yes but he said for all bosses |
| 18:20.23 | Xinhuan | they don't do heavy melee damage |
| 18:20.27 | Mudkips | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGh |
| 18:20.43 | Cryect | haha, whatever glad I quit this game months ago :-p |
| 18:20.46 | Ellipsis | Cryect: you still said CoW was pointless without imp CoW when they were just talking about the one boss they couldn't keep demo up on... |
| 18:20.50 | Mudkips | im not a warlock, I dont pay attention to their buffs most of the time |
| 18:20.56 | Cryect | I was talking about what Mudkips said |
| 18:21.02 | Mudkips | ( Mudkips ) ok not every boss but most bosses mmkay? |
| 18:21.03 | Mudkips | ( Mudkips ) sheesh |
| 18:21.07 | Cryect | not what Xinhuan said which we had already discussed :-p |
| 18:21.08 | Xinhuan | are you certain NPCs are valid targets for RoF? |
| 18:21.20 | Cryect | Yeah you can have the melee completely out |
| 18:21.26 | Ellipsis | [11:14:17 am] <Xinhuan> not imp curse of weakness! [11:14:26 am] <Cryect> Curse of Weakness is worthless without Imp Curse of Weaknes |
| 18:21.27 | Cryect | and you wil notice ROF is on him a ton |
| 18:21.37 | Ellipsis | WAY before Mudkips joined the convo |
| 18:21.50 | Xinhuan | that would explain why the melee die a lot more often |
| 18:21.54 | Cryect | Then he said they didn't have a warrior in |
| 18:21.58 | Xinhuan | if we use 4 tauren warrs instead of thrall on the boss |
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| 18:22.13 | Mudkips | and we use a druid main tank unless we have the prot warr available |
| 18:22.16 | Cryect | and I understood then :-p |
| 18:22.23 | Mudkips | on guys like archimonde warr definitely |
| 18:22.29 | [gk]Ossy | druid tank > warrior tank on azgalor tbh |
| 18:22.35 | [gk]Ossy | if you got a properly geared one |
| 18:22.35 | Industrial | How do I handle switching bags and buying bank bagslots with Baggins? |
| 18:22.57 | Mudkips | lol i dunno [gk]Ossy |
| 18:23.00 | Mudkips | armory hugehoss |
| 18:23.04 | Ellipsis | Industrial: disable "hide default bank" |
| 18:23.28 | Industrial | cant it just list the slots for bags and bankbags? |
| 18:23.33 | [gk]Ossy | well |
| 18:23.38 | Ellipsis | do you swap your bank bags that often? |
| 18:23.39 | Industrial | really missing feature imho |
| 18:23.43 | [gk]Ossy | he do massive dmg and cant crush |
| 18:23.49 | Industrial | no, but when I need them i need to hack up my UI |
| 18:23.55 | [gk]Ossy | so bear tank usualy mitigates more dmg then a warrior tank |
| 18:24.02 | Cryect | Oh its also an annoying fight because your chance to avoid AOE attack talents don't work due to it applies a DOT (unless they've fixed that since it was shown it never worked with Frost Nova) |
| 18:24.03 | Ellipsis | you need to click a checkbox, do your thing, then click it again |
| 18:24.12 | Xinhuan | i don't like bag mods, the default ui 5 bag system is perfectly fine to me ;p |
| 18:24.13 | Pkekyo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cCvhXXlG-I lmao |
| 18:24.15 | Industrial | otehr bag addons do have it :p |
| 18:24.48 | [gk]Ossy | as long as CoS removes it it's all good Cryect ;) |
| 18:24.57 | Xinhuan | i see people go "where the fuck is the tainted core in my bags" and i know right away they have auto sorting features |
| 18:25.18 | NeoTron | who the hell doesn't use a macro for the core? |
| 18:25.32 | Xinhuan | my guild doesn't |
| 18:25.33 | Cryect | the first time you get the core and you normally don't get it? :-p |
| 18:25.35 | Industrial | OMG Pkekyo |
| 18:25.40 | Industrial | i want one |
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| 18:29.06 | ckknight | well, XChat crashed |
| 18:29.10 | ckknight | mt |
| 18:29.33 | NeoTron | we made everyone make a macro |
| 18:30.03 | Xinhuan | we found that unnecessary, just call out on vent lol |
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| 18:30.40 | CIA-7 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r53459 10Ace3/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:30.40 | CIA-7 | Ace3 - AceTimer: |
| 18:30.40 | CIA-7 | - ACE-49: Make sure that AceTimer works with "addonId" as self |
| 18:30.41 | CIA-7 | - Better error messages |
| 18:30.41 | CIA-7 | - Get rid of AceTimer-3.0-utils.lua (use "wow_api.lua") |
| 18:30.41 | CIA-7 | - Add AceTimer-3.0-test3.lua: |
| 18:30.43 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.51 | siIentium | regexp question: /^s\/([^;\/]*)\/([^;\/]*)\/([g]*)$/) is obviously meant to match s/foo/bar/g constructs, but what are the semicolons for? |
| 18:31.42 | Xinhuan | whats the very first / for |
| 18:32.32 | siIentium | $orig{message} =~ /^s\/([^;\/]*)\/([^;\/]*)\/([g]*)$/) { # the whole line |
| 18:32.32 | Pkekyo | Industrial: ME TOO! |
| 18:32.39 | Xinhuan | [^;\/] doesn't that define a set that excludes ; and / |
| 18:32.40 | Xinhuan | ? |
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| 18:33.08 | Xinhuan | i'll assume that the stuff between the / / can't contain ; |
| 18:33.11 | pastamancer | the ; is because whoever wrote that regexp didn't know about *? |
| 18:33.33 | Xinhuan | for whatever reason |
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| 18:33.55 | siIentium | I'm just a regexp noob trying to understand foreign code, that's why I'm asking :) |
| 18:34.22 | Xinhuan | maybe the ";" char is used for something else and isnt' expected to be in the string to be parsed |
| 18:34.26 | Xinhuan | who knows |
| 18:35.17 | pastamancer | I'm assuming it's because they were having problems with it eating multiple statements |
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| 18:35.41 | pastamancer | hence the not-; to make it stop at end-of-statement |
| 18:36.34 | siIentium | ah, but the quintessence is that the semicolons are just literal characters, no magic regexp code, right? |
| 18:36.40 | Xinhuan | its not overly unreasonable to assume that perhaps the ";" char is used as a seperator for some future use in the code so the parsing can't have it |
| 18:37.26 | Xinhuan | its just a literal char as far as i remember |
| 18:39.15 | siIentium | eval "\$sedmsg =~ s/\Q$1\E/\Q$2\E/$3;"; # is where I guess the matched substrings are used a few lines later |
| 18:40.14 | Kaydeethree | for those of you wondering about the addon-induced assertion failure status: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2649577104&sid=1&pageNo=2#28 |
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| 18:50.37 | samwise | Im using FUbar_AddonSpamFU for some time now. Noticed 3 Addons called IncomingHealLib,Healcomm-2.0, and COmmastlib sending enormous amounts of Messages. Because of their names i think they are all doing the same which is stupid redundancy. |
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| 18:52.55 | samwise | also the enormous amounts of statistikaddons like sw_stats, damagemeters etc. is a bit annoying. Will the new combatlog of 2.4 deal with reducing this? |
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| 18:54.18 | simlan | Anyone familiar with baggins? How do I split item stacks if I use categories and compression? |
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| 19:00.35 | CIA-7 | 03eggi * r53460 10KeepItCool/ (KeepItCool.toc core.lua): |
| 19:00.35 | CIA-7 | KeepItCool: |
| 19:00.35 | CIA-7 | -- Removed LoD |
| 19:00.35 | CIA-7 | -- Fixed a typo |
| 19:02.37 | NightHawkAtWork | simlan: you don't. |
| 19:07.52 | Lukian | samwise: no, it'll just made all of them outdated, and when they are updated, they'll (hopefully) be a lot more efficient |
| 19:08.48 | samwise | and about the 3 librarys? ;) |
| 19:09.24 | Lukian | wrt to the number of damagemeter addons |
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| 19:10.25 | NeoTron | http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot102507191410nu7.jpg |
| 19:10.28 | NeoTron | lol |
| 19:11.05 | NeoTron | somehow a horde/alliance guild on my server got locked into the same BT instance |
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| 19:12.07 | Ellipsis | lolwut |
| 19:12.18 | Lukian | yeah that was amusing ^^ |
| 19:12.30 | Ellipsis | that's...interesting |
| 19:12.33 | NightHawkAtWork | It's those kinds of things that make me proud to be a programmer. |
| 19:12.37 | Ellipsis | how the heck did they manage that? |
| 19:12.41 | NeoTron | rather every time a guild kills shahraz, this one pally gets lcoked into that guilds instance |
| 19:13.34 | Mudkips | lmfao maddox strikes again |
| 19:13.35 | Mudkips | http://duggmirror.com/celebrity/Fashion_tips_for_women_from_a_guy_who_knows_dick_about_fashion/ |
| 19:13.57 | Ellipsis | sweet |
| 19:15.00 | Mudkips | lol his take on red lipstick "Insecure women with boring faces lap this shit up because they think "hmmm.. what does my face need? Oh, I know! A giant hokey shade of red that isn't even found in nature." |
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| 19:17.44 | Mudkips | "Self-aggrandizing "hottie" shirts make you look like a bitch:" |
| 19:17.49 | Mudkips | hahaha, couldn't be more true |
| 19:17.55 | CIA-7 | 03bejitt * r53461 10Spyglass/core.lua: |
| 19:17.55 | CIA-7 | Spyglass: |
| 19:17.56 | CIA-7 | - Fixed error that hid the entire UI |
| 19:17.56 | CIA-7 | - Sorted player list on FuBar |
| 19:17.56 | CIA-7 | - Recycling a few more tables |
| 19:18.07 | Bejitt | ^-GG on that error |
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| 19:24.28 | Ellipsis | so who else laughs at people leveling in outlands on level 40 mounts? |
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| 19:24.55 | many | i didnt buy en epic mount til l70 |
| 19:24.57 | many | an |
| 19:25.03 | Ellipsis | I don't get it |
| 19:25.10 | Ellipsis | you have to buy the riding skill at 70 if you wanna fly anyway |
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| 19:25.17 | Ellipsis | why not just buy it at 60 so you can make use of it while leveling? |
| 19:25.24 | Mudkips | lol i dunno |
| 19:25.31 | many | i didnt have the money |
| 19:25.31 | Fisker- | pisspoor and so forth? |
| 19:25.37 | Mudkips | lmao o m g |
| 19:25.40 | many | (and i didnt care either.) |
| 19:25.45 | Fisker- | oh hi? |
| 19:25.49 | NightHawkAtWork | I can understand not having the money at 60 |
| 19:25.59 | NightHawkAtWork | But it's fairly trivial to have the money by 64ish |
| 19:26.01 | Mudkips | most players leveling now are alts |
| 19:26.08 | many | see |
| 19:26.08 | Mudkips | so i assume they have money |
| 19:26.17 | Mudkips | if they are new players then LOL |
| 19:26.21 | NightHawkAtWork | Mudkips: eh, that's not really neccessarily true |
| 19:26.24 | Mudkips | gl with that |
| 19:26.28 | NightHawkAtWork | and it's kind of idiotic to assume so |
| 19:26.40 | many | its not everyone powergamer like you people are |
| 19:26.40 | Mudkips | I bet i'm more right than you |
| 19:27.02 | many | my main hit 70 only one or two months ago |
| 19:27.10 | Mudkips | grats? |
| 19:27.14 | Mudkips | that makes me a powergamer? |
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| 19:27.20 | Mudkips | lol |
| 19:27.20 | many | and i was playing that since wow was released in EU |
| 19:27.46 | Mudkips | did you quit in 6 month intervals in between? |
| 19:27.47 | NightHawkAtWork | Mudkips: point being, don't be a douche and assume that your particular play style necessarily translates to everyone elses? :P |
| 19:27.52 | Mudkips | because you can get to 70 in a month or less |
| 19:27.53 | many | so it took the main like, what? two years? |
| 19:28.08 | many | Mudkips: maybe people who live wow do that. |
| 19:28.11 | Mudkips | what playstyle |
| 19:28.15 | many | or CS kiddos |
| 19:28.25 | Mudkips | wow don't hate |
| 19:28.30 | Mudkips | you all play the same game |
| 19:28.35 | many | i dont hate. |
| 19:28.49 | many | iam just pissed by people who tell other people how its supposed to be |
| 19:28.57 | Mudkips | how what is supposed to be? |
| 19:29.02 | NightHawkAtWork | I hate, but i'm a misanthrope. |
| 19:29.19 | many | hehe hawk :} |
| 19:29.30 | NightHawkAtWork | many: yeah, people who necessarily assume that everyone plays the same way they do, or has the same opportunities they do annoy me. :\ |
| 19:29.47 | Mudkips | all I said was most leveling players on my realm are alts |
| 19:30.06 | NightHawkAtWork | you said nothing about "your realm" :P |
| 19:30.14 | Mudkips | and if they are new to this game ( me being general) you're pretty out of luck at this state of the expansion |
| 19:30.29 | Mudkips | ok fine, even it it -wasnt- my realm |
| 19:30.38 | many | Mudkips: you said alot of things. |
| 19:30.52 | Mudkips | the amount of established players leveling alts are still greater than new players leveling with nothing |
| 19:30.58 | many | and whats so out of luck to start playing wow now? |
| 19:31.46 | Mudkips | from a raiding perspective lots of things |
| 19:32.05 | Mudkips | but if you like to just do things in game and quest and all kinds of other things.... then I don't know |
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| 19:32.58 | NightHawkAtWork | Mudkips: that's the thing "from a raiding perspective", a) not everyone raids, or wants to raid. b) you really can't speak for every raiding guild ever, so "from a raiding perspective" is realy just "from my own personal raiding perspective" |
| 19:33.07 | many | looks like you were assuming another thing from the way you play, again. |
| 19:33.19 | Mudkips | why do you think I mentioned it ~_~ |
| 19:34.29 | Mudkips | anyway, how did this all start? the lvl 40 mount deal in outlands? |
| 19:34.32 | many | see, ive even heard there are players playing without ANY addon, i mean cmon! LOL! how can they! lmao o m g |
| 19:34.38 | Mudkips | the way I see it, no excuse there |
| 19:34.58 | many | no? |
| 19:35.12 | many | you think my 56 rogue which runs around in outlands can buy an epic already? |
| 19:35.20 | many | gonna talk to npcs later. |
| 19:35.20 | baer_ | is there some way to "clone" a unitframe, for instance have 2 target frames? |
| 19:35.41 | Mudkips | what you? |
| 19:35.45 | Mudkips | I wasn't talking about you |
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| 19:35.49 | Mudkips | I was just being general |
| 19:35.52 | Ellipsis | many: I mean people over level 63 or so |
| 19:36.06 | many | Ellipsis: thought so. :> |
| 19:36.06 | Ellipsis | I just saw a 67 warlock in netherstorm hanging out on his level 40 felsteed |
| 19:36.06 | Mudkips | and I had no knowledge that you had a rogue that was 56 and was in outlands already |
| 19:36.09 | Mudkips | wtf?@_@ |
| 19:36.30 | many | Mudkips: certainly. learning skills > 300 |
| 19:36.52 | many | she was in outlands when she hit 50. |
| 19:37.36 | Mudkips | hmm good luck with that |
| 19:37.50 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 19:38.07 | Ellipsis | it's faster to powerlevel in outlands than azeroth :/ |
| 19:38.10 | many | actually its a pretty nice thing to do. it gives you access to all capitals, having the home stone in shattrat is just useful. |
| 19:38.14 | Mudkips | how much gold does it take to learn epic mount riding in azeroth again? |
| 19:38.30 | NightHawkAtWork | 640 for the skill |
| 19:38.33 | NightHawkAtWork | 90 for the mount |
| 19:38.44 | Mudkips | wow it's has been a while |
| 19:38.46 | many | - reputation?? |
| 19:38.46 | NightHawkAtWork | (assuming honored with home faction, but that's probably a given) |
| 19:38.50 | Mudkips | it * |
| 19:39.14 | Mudkips | you could save yourself that 90 g by doing a little pvp and buying a pvp mount with honor and tokens |
| 19:39.34 | NightHawkAtWork | Probably faster and less painful to just farm the 90g. :\ |
| 19:39.41 | many | Yep. 30 tokens from each faction |
| 19:39.55 | Mudkips | yeah 90g in outlands is a joke |
| 19:39.57 | many | 30 tokens warsong is easy. 30 tokens alterac not so much. |
| 19:40.19 | many | (especially on alliance side =) |
| 19:40.34 | mort | god i hate gurtog bloodboil |
| 19:40.41 | Mudkips | usually depends on the battlegroup |
| 19:40.56 | Mudkips | the alliance always dominated us back in 60 |
| 19:40.59 | many | actually i have to admit |
| 19:40.59 | Mudkips | it's not the same now |
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| 19:41.17 | Mudkips | but there weren't any battlegroups back then and the Q's took forever |
| 19:41.17 | many | i have only seen lose battlegroups in ally faction |
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| 19:55.23 | Ozguli | "-21:39:43- (many) 30 tokens warsong is easy. 30 tokens alterac not so much." |
| 19:55.37 | Ozguli | that'd be 30 WSG games in my battlegroup, alliance side :\ |
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| 19:55.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:56.29 | many | Ozguli: thats 10 minutes per game, when you lose. |
| 19:56.39 | many | thats okay. but imagine alterac when its another 2 hours game. |
| 19:56.42 | Ozguli | ooo, don't even think they go that smoothly! |
| 19:56.51 | Mudkips | 2 hours holy shit |
| 19:57.17 | Mudkips | nowadays people complain and just afk out if the game took longer than 30 |
| 19:57.21 | Ozguli | I once spent about 4 hours in AV, then logged off due to boredom |
| 19:57.24 | Mudkips | you could be in another av in 5 minutes |
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| 19:57.42 | Mudkips | minus the debuff |
| 19:58.21 | Ozguli | heard the urban stories about AV games that last multiple days? People join and leave but there'd be no progress |
| 19:58.36 | grzesieq | thats before xrealm bgs |
| 19:58.43 | many | that must be like 1.5 years ago |
| 19:58.48 | Cryect | THe original AV |
| 19:58.53 | Cryect | with 1000 NPC's |
| 19:58.57 | Cryect | training on people |
| 19:59.02 | grzesieq | that was fun :> |
| 19:59.02 | Mudkips | lol |
| 19:59.07 | Ozguli | and summons! |
| 19:59.12 | Ozguli | lol saw those on lvl 60 |
| 19:59.13 | Cryect | haha yes the summons |
| 19:59.14 | Mudkips | I remember some hunter hacking it up |
| 19:59.17 | Cryect | and Korrak! |
| 19:59.22 | Mudkips | the guy was going 500% speed across the map |
| 19:59.27 | Ozguli | hmm what korrak? |
| 19:59.33 | Ozguli | been around only 8 months or so |
| 19:59.34 | grzesieq | a huge npc midfield |
| 19:59.48 | Ozguli | tree or frost lord, or some other? |
| 19:59.53 | Cryect | He was fun to kite around with roots |
| 19:59.58 | grzesieq | ice lord afair |
| 20:00.01 | Cryect | something else for the Ice Barbed Spear |
| 20:00.06 | Megalon | directly on the snowfall graveyard in the first version of av |
| 20:00.09 | Cryect | so you had level 50's joining AV |
| 20:00.12 | Megalon | happy respawning |
| 20:00.14 | Cryect | going "CAN WE KILL KORRAK" |
| 20:00.19 | grzesieq | :> |
| 20:00.33 | Cryect | so they can get their Arcanite Reaper at lvl 50 |
| 20:02.23 | CIA-7 | 03eggi * r53462 10KeepItCool/ (KeepItCool.toc core.lua fubar.lua): |
| 20:02.23 | CIA-7 | KeepItCool: |
| 20:02.23 | CIA-7 | -- Fubar support added |
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| 20:05.40 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 20:17.55 | Grum | stupid hunter dps @ gruul: http://wowwebstats.com/h6tkgjb46eatq?s=5772-6110 |
| 20:18.55 | Ozguli | aren't those a security risk? |
| 20:20.26 | NeoTron | hunters? |
| 20:20.31 | NeoTron | no they just take all loot |
| 20:21.09 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.13 | Antiarc | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=fashion |
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| 20:25.35 | Vorda | Hey there, just noticed ChatLog isnt on SNV anymore so I suppose it got discontinued. Is there some alernative now? |
| 20:26.00 | mort | elephant |
| 20:26.32 | Vorda | thanks |
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| 20:37.39 | NeoTron | "I'm looking for an alternative to simpleMiniMap" "Try orangekittensoup" "thanks" |
| 20:39.45 | haste | someone actually named their add-on orangekittensoup :D ? |
| 20:39.54 | [Ammoo] | awesome name |
| 20:40.11 | haste | catchy at least |
| 20:40.21 | haste | and I bet some cat lovers will create drama about it |
| 20:40.34 | NeoTron | no, just a commentary of an addon "Elephant" replacing "ChatLog |
| 20:40.35 | Mudkips | orangekittensoup T_T |
| 20:40.36 | Mudkips | whyyyyyyy |
| 20:40.45 | haste | it's a win/win situation |
| 20:40.49 | durcyn | orangekittensoup, with accompanying library "ihasablender" |
| 20:40.55 | durcyn | NeoTron: because an elephant never forgets. |
| 20:40.56 | Mudkips | o noes |
| 20:41.01 | haste | organgekittensoup > animal_name by far |
| 20:41.14 | Mudkips | ( durcyn ) NeoTron: because an elephant never forgets. |
| 20:41.25 | Mudkips | good luck with the wowtards figuring that out |
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| 20:46.44 | Nefarion | http://casualkeyboard.ytmnd.com/ |
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| 20:47.45 | Mudkips | hope that casual isn't here to see that |
| 20:48.19 | Cryect | haha |
| 20:49.40 | Fisker- | fucking oooooooooowld |
| 20:49.48 | Fisker- | also F-keys should've been F5 all of them |
| 20:49.56 | Mudkips | yup |
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| 20:50.20 | Nefarion | well SOME of us are just seeing it for the first time /qq |
| 20:51.07 | Mudkips | smash head on keyboard |
| 20:51.08 | Mudkips | QQ |
| 20:51.45 | Nefarion | lol |
| 20:52.36 | Ozguli | speaking about keyboards |
| 20:52.37 | Nefarion | hay dun insult mee i pai $15 every months blizzard shud b lisening 2 me k? |
| 20:52.49 | Ozguli | do yours have some broken/worn out buttons? |
| 20:53.01 | Nefarion | "Q" lol |
| 20:53.10 | Ozguli | seriously? |
| 20:53.13 | Nefarion | no |
| 20:53.18 | NivFreak | I would like epics mailed to me for doing nothing |
| 20:53.25 | NivFreak | I pay $15 a month like everyone else |
| 20:53.34 | Nefarion | qq |
| 20:53.37 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 20:53.43 | Nefarion | my spacebar is pretty fucked |
| 20:53.52 | Nefarion | and Alt |
| 20:53.59 | Ozguli | mine has MLKDSNS pretty much unreadable, from worst to least worst |
| 20:54.17 | Ozguli | and W seems to be on lower level than other keys |
| 20:54.18 | Nefarion | R and F are slightly worn more than the other buttons--drain life and fear lol |
| 20:54.30 | Mudkips | damn you guys have some heavy fingers |
| 20:54.35 | Nefarion | well, all fears |
| 20:54.42 | NivFreak | oddly, my S key is the most worn |
| 20:54.46 | NivFreak | which is back |
| 20:54.46 | Nefarion | this keyboard's from like '99 |
| 20:54.47 | Mudkips | ( Nefarion ) R and F are slightly worn more than the other buttons--drain life and fear lol |
| 20:54.49 | NivFreak | sorta strange |
| 20:54.51 | Mudkips | SL lock amirite? |
| 20:55.01 | Nefarion | nowai |
| 20:55.05 | Nefarion | afflic lol |
| 20:55.06 | Mudkips | ya you are :P |
| 20:55.31 | Nefarion | Ctrl F is Howl of Terror, Alt-F is Death Coil, Shift-F is Banish. you can see the pattern. |
| 20:55.49 | Nefarion | gah i gotta go eat >> |
| 20:55.50 | Nefarion | have fun |
| 20:56.18 | Mudkips | F for fail |
| 20:56.30 | durcyn | no you |
| 20:56.48 | Mudkips | duel more mr lock so you can feel good about yourself |
| 20:57.43 | durcyn | you're kind of a rude guy you know |
| 20:58.32 | Ozguli | Hah! I fixed the W button |
| 20:58.44 | Ozguli | the rubber thing under it was slightly broken |
| 20:59.12 | Ozguli | so I slipped a small piece of paper in it so that it won't have space to twist again |
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| 21:07.07 | Orionshock | morning all |
| 21:07.32 | hypetech | morning |
| 21:08.17 | Ozguli | morning? |
| 21:08.23 | Ozguli | I'm going to sleep soon... |
| 21:08.27 | durcyn | ~ugt |
| 21:08.28 | purl | rumour has it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 21:08.46 | durcyn | good night, orionshock. sleep well, you cherub. |
| 21:08.51 | Ozguli | sure. had that habit in the summer |
| 21:09.22 | Ozguli | when meeting some friend like... 6pm we'd both go "morning" |
| 21:10.05 | Orionshock | hehe i still have that habbit |
| 21:13.55 | Mudkips | daylight savings time |
| 21:14.00 | Mudkips | screwing up people today |
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| 21:29.01 | rubik | anyone know what font the chinese tbc client uses? or rather, what font (non-chinese characters) is on this screenie? http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/illiseven.jpg |
| 21:29.28 | rubik | (like the text 'Nedda', 'Bluemage', etc... looks damn good) |
| 21:32.07 | durcyn | it's Ni Hao Oblique |
| 21:32.16 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 21:32.54 | Ellipsis | that is a pretty neat font, but I don't recognize it |
| 21:33.18 | Mudkips | chinaman' |
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| 21:36.01 | Orionshock | anyone know if Kyahx is still arround or if some one else picked up FreeRefills? |
| 21:36.15 | rubik | lol @ ni hao oblique |
| 21:37.02 | CIA-7 | 03eggi * r53463 10KeepItCool/ (. KeepItCool.toc embeds.xml fubar.lua): |
| 21:37.02 | CIA-7 | KeepItCool: |
| 21:37.02 | CIA-7 | -- Added dependencies |
| 21:37.02 | CIA-7 | -- Changed menu |
| 21:37.03 | rubik | Orionshock: i don't know the answer to your question but it (FreeRefills) still works fine for me afaik? |
| 21:37.23 | Orionshock | some guy threw up an update on the forums... |
| 21:38.05 | Orionshock | been looking over it ... wondering if i should commit it or not care. for what i use it for it works fine |
| 21:38.47 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 21:40.44 | Ellipsis | worth trading 5 spell damage for 5 spell hit? |
| 21:40.59 | Orionshock | yes |
| 21:41.14 | [dRaCo] | if you're not capped yet, that is |
| 21:41.27 | Xelopheris | until you're hit capped, spell hit increases your DPS point for point better than any other stat |
| 21:41.32 | Ellipsis | yeah, I know |
| 21:41.43 | Ellipsis | I just hate replacing a gem that cost me 50g |
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| 21:42.22 | Xelopheris | Lawl. 90% of my healing gems (feral druid) are talasites |
| 21:42.25 | Xelopheris | just because they were cheap |
| 21:42.41 | Grum | Royal Nightseye ftw |
| 21:42.54 | Xelopheris | Royal Nightseye ft50gl |
| 21:43.09 | Xelopheris | I love em, but I have like, 200 frikkin sockets on my resto gear >< |
| 21:43.10 | Grum | try 8agi gems O.o |
| 21:43.16 | Ellipsis | veiled noble topaz are my friends |
| 21:43.47 | Grum | cheap as well |
| 21:45.59 | Xelopheris | noble topaz's are the second most expensive on my server >< |
| 21:46.07 | Xelopheris | 60g each (star of elunes being 70) |
| 21:46.41 | starlon | No BT gems? |
| 21:46.54 | Xelopheris | only one bt guild on each side |
| 21:46.57 | Xelopheris | so they're not for sale yet |
| 21:47.02 | starlon | ah |
| 21:47.17 | Ellipsis | all the blue gems I've bought have been 45-50g, no matter what gem/cut they are :/ |
| 21:47.33 | Xelopheris | I still have my stack of talasites that I bought for 5g each |
| 21:47.37 | Mudkips | lol that sucks :( |
| 21:47.37 | Xelopheris | about 80 of them |
| 21:47.39 | Pkekyo | what does ad-hoc mean? |
| 21:47.50 | Xelopheris | ad-hoc = not infrastructure |
| 21:47.59 | Mudkips | talasitse on my realm are about 20g |
| 21:48.02 | Xelopheris | collaborative with no organizaiton |
| 21:48.24 | NightHawkAtWork | Pkekyo: google it |
| 21:48.32 | Pkekyo | how can brothers be ad-hoc? O.o |
| 21:48.35 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: no |
| 21:48.48 | Xelopheris | I think it's a latin phrase though |
| 21:48.55 | NightHawkAtWork | it's based in latin, yes. |
| 21:48.58 | Xelopheris | "For this purpose" IIRC |
| 21:49.04 | Xelopheris | stupid wireless midterm is still stuck in my ehad |
| 21:49.08 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 21:49.12 | NightHawkAtWork | close |
| 21:49.26 | Neebler | http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/128/aquamanot0crcg3.jpg |
| 21:49.39 | Xelopheris | What is it then, NightHawk |
| 21:50.04 | Ellipsis | rofl Neebler |
| 21:50.04 | Xelopheris | LOL Neebler |
| 21:50.40 | NightHawkAtWork | Xelopheris: well, translations from the latin I've seen say "to the thing", but latin translations are all fuzzy anyway. I meant "close enough", i guess, as I didn't mean to say you were wrong. |
| 21:51.35 | Xelopheris | Are they all fuzzy like Willy's beard? |
| 21:52.06 | Nefarion | anyone interested in testing an addon real quick? it's real simple.. it queries the server every .1 seconds for a new item id to fill your cache up. but i *always* miss typos. =( |
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| 21:52.59 | Xelopheris | So 0.1 seconds.. warglaives are 35000~ish in itemid... after an hour you disco! |
| 21:53.21 | Nefarion | it saves progress in between sessions and alerts when you hit 40000 (only checked on load though) |
| 21:53.41 | Nefarion | and only queries if the info is missing, so you can safely reset without pissing blizz off for missed info |
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| 21:57.12 | Ellipsis | I'm a bit confused about these datamining addons people are writing now to cache all items |
| 21:57.23 | Ellipsis | isn't the cache limit way smaller than the number of possible items? |
| 21:57.29 | Nefarion | well with one of the latest patches you can't be DCed for querying missing item info |
| 21:57.35 | Ellipsis | no I know that |
| 21:57.43 | Nefarion | well i would hope not lol |
| 21:57.49 | Nefarion | otherwise it's a waste |
| 21:58.00 | Ellipsis | but when I tried to fill my item cache before, old items would start getting dropped |
| 21:58.08 | Nefarion | i didn't think there was a limit. but i'm writing this in response to the thread asking for one in the addon ideas forum. |
| 21:58.10 | Ellipsis | so unless they changed that or it's dependent on system specs... |
| 21:58.30 | Nefarion | i suppose that's up to the user to test |
| 21:58.35 | Nefarion | it's already written |
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| 22:05.23 | Neebler | http://stores.afremov.com/catalog/869%20%20%20%20%2040x30%20%20%20ALLEY%20BY%20THE%20LAKE.jpg |
| 22:07.05 | CIA-7 | 03bashui * r53464 10CatPoints/ (CatDPSTest.lua CatPoints.lua test.lua): |
| 22:07.05 | CIA-7 | CatPoints: |
| 22:07.05 | CIA-7 | - Updated some of the test functions, should have no effect on in game code. |
| 22:07.48 | buu | Hrm. |
| 22:07.58 | buu | Is there anyway to change the font in the editbox using prat? |
| 22:09.17 | Ellipsis | it should get changed with the other chat fonts o.O |
| 22:09.23 | Mudkips | it does |
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| 22:09.30 | Mudkips | with clearfont ~_~ |
| 22:09.36 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 22:11.05 | Nefarion | if anyone wants some kobold slave-miners to dig through wow's servers for some item info, you can test it: http://www.mediafire.com/?39znrohzlzy =D |
| 22:11.16 | Nefarion | should work, i see no typos |
| 22:12.15 | buu | Ellipsis: It wasn't for me. |
| 22:15.06 | Fisker- | http://consumerist.com/consumer/fraud/best-buy-sells-you-a-box-of-bathroom-tiles-instead-of-hard-drive-wont-refund-315873.php <- I bought this new 1TB harddrive and all i got was these shitty Bathroom tiles |
| 22:15.07 | Fisker- | :D |
| 22:15.48 | Nefarion | HA |
| 22:16.38 | NeoTron | for Mother Shahraz do you really need full SR gear? |
| 22:16.43 | durcyn | yes, you do |
| 22:16.43 | NeoTron | epic I mean |
| 22:16.50 | buu | Gah. |
| 22:16.57 | buu | Clearfont won't touch my chat window thingy. |
| 22:17.05 | durcyn | if you can get 365 otherwise, without having 5K HP and no DPS, i'll be impressed |
| 22:17.29 | Nefarion | he'd have to rip that second HDD from my hands pretty hard |
| 22:17.54 | NeoTron | ok good to know |
| 22:18.02 | NeoTron | that's a lot of heart of darkness we need :P |
| 22:18.11 | Xelopheris | yep. Farm trash |
| 22:18.16 | Xelopheris | i.e. recruit one hunter. |
| 22:18.27 | Xelopheris | oh wait, they nerfed that, didn't they? |
| 22:19.11 | buu | I cry. |
| 22:19.12 | durcyn | warlocks can still solo farm the elementals |
| 22:19.23 | CIA-7 | 03toadkiller * r53465 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:19.23 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 22:19.23 | CIA-7 | -- Destruction potion & some other missing buffs |
| 22:20.16 | Fisker- | Nefarion i would obviously let go |
| 22:20.16 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53466 10FlexBar2_DreamLayout/DreamLayout.lua: FlexBar2_DreamLayout: Add padding to the green overlay when the frame is unlocked |
| 22:20.20 | Fisker- | violently into his face |
| 22:20.29 | Nefarion | lol |
| 22:20.46 | Fisker- | hope the scammers had filled the pack with granite instead |
| 22:22.35 | Ellipsis | buu: it will if you get rid of prat |
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| 22:23.57 | durcyn | NeoTron: you can probably get away with not making pants for a while, especially since the FA nerf. But you will get raped by the beams without SR. |
| 22:25.06 | NeoTron | do you need to kill her to proceed to illidari council? |
| 22:25.36 | NeoTron | seems like one of the few true raid gear checks |
| 22:25.43 | NeoTron | it's like ragnaros on steroids |
| 22:27.40 | Mudkips | mother shahraz? |
| 22:28.15 | miica | is there simple addon that gives those raid icons and when you click icon its target mob tat got that icon? |
| 22:28.40 | NeoTron | Mudkips: yes |
| 22:28.50 | NeoTron | miica: not possib;e |
| 22:28.58 | miica | :'( |
| 22:29.07 | NeoTron | yeah I want something like that too but alas |
| 22:29.27 | NeoTron | they need /target [icon=skull] type syntax |
| 22:29.42 | Nefarion | i don't know |
| 22:30.03 | buu | Speaking of, is there an addon that displays the list of icons, just as a clickable box, so you can target a mob and then click the icon to assign it? |
| 22:30.16 | Nefarion | ooh there is one....but i forgot the name |
| 22:30.22 | Nefarion | i think on wowace |
| 22:31.03 | Nefarion | it might be ezIcons |
| 22:31.23 | miica | maybe i just get eepanel and put some porn to my UI |
| 22:31.29 | Nefarion | there's also JasonTag. dunno which creates the frame, hard to see from the desc. |
| 22:31.34 | Mudkips | mother shahraz was a bitch before the patch |
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| 22:32.05 | Nefarion | aye, that'll motivate you |
| 22:32.12 | Nefarion | click my boobies, kill your enemies |
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| 22:33.32 | miica | we wipe in kael atm and it is realy boring so it would be nice to have boobies there ^^ |
| 22:34.06 | miica | but then i should have somekind button that would hide boobies when GF comes :D |
| 22:34.33 | miica | argh irssi lags like hell :'( |
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| 22:35.14 | miica | looks like some idiots ddos server again |
| 22:37.06 | buu | So.. |
| 22:37.22 | buu | Is there anyway to make a 'combatlog' window smaller than the 250px or whatever I can drag it to? |
| 22:38.04 | Nefarion | i think prat can do that |
| 22:38.19 | miica | yeah atleast it can make it biger :D |
| 22:38.20 | Nefarion | or you can probably mess with a cvar or something |
| 22:38.26 | Nefarion | sec |
| 22:39.22 | Nefarion | buu |
| 22:39.25 | Nefarion | exit game and |
| 22:39.50 | Nefarion | go to: WoW \ WTF \ Account \ NAME \ SERVER \ CHARACTER \ Layout-Cache.txt |
| 22:40.12 | Nefarion | find "Frame: ChatFrame2" and edit the H line under it |
| 22:40.28 | buu | Huh. Ok. |
| 22:40.34 | buu | How wackery. |
| 22:40.46 | Nefarion | yeah that's the only way to bypass the limit without an addon |
| 22:40.51 | Nefarion | or a script ingame.... |
| 22:40.56 | Nefarion | which would be faster lol |
| 22:41.14 | Nefarion | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.52 | CIA-7 | 03cncfanatics * r53467 10FlexBar2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): FlexBar2: The highlighting module now creates highlight textures on its own and buttons are no longer checkbuttons, because of this the highlightings module can be disabled fine without ugly side effects |
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| 22:52.22 | Antiarc | http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/minesweeper-the-movie-286639.php |
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| 22:53.03 | nevcairiel | heh already know that one, good though :) |
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| 22:54.38 | Nefarion | lawl |
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| 22:58.51 | buu | Hrm. No matter what I change in that configuration options for 'dotdotdot', it doesn't seem to change .. anything. |
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| 22:59.49 | Xelopheris | Is there any way with baggins to actually see your bags? Because switching out my mining bag from my bank seems to be a bitch |
| 23:01.41 | buu | This makes me cry. |
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| 23:21.58 | Kemayo | Xelopheris: Not that I've seen. Ellipsis was talking about it earlier, and it seems that the recommended solution is to just disable whatever is hiding your bag bar. |
| 23:22.00 | Aethelwulf | does anyone have a recommendation for a good aced addon for tracking buffs with out a lot of cumbersome timerbars? (running out of space on my screen >.< |
| 23:22.21 | ZealotOnAStick | I like buffalo, personally |
| 23:22.32 | Ellipsis | I use EBB with bar width set to 0 |
| 23:22.37 | Kemayo | Buffalo is probably what you're looking for if you don't want bars, yes. |
| 23:23.47 | Aethelwulf | hmmmm checking the files list, there is a buffalo and a buffalo2... |
| 23:24.04 | buu | Blah blah, is there anyway to hide omen's header? |
| 23:24.26 | Kemayo | Hm, and they've both been updated for 2.2. I have no idea which is the actual main one. ZOAS? |
| 23:25.05 | Ellipsis | buu: there's an option for it |
| 23:26.04 | Kemayo | Aethelwulf: Buffalo2, probably. It was apparently very recently moved to trunk, so I presume plain-Buffalo is around for continuity until everyone is sure the new one is stable. |
| 23:26.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Not quite. |
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| 23:26.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Buffalo2 is a bit different feature and configurability wise. |
| 23:26.40 | ZealotOnAStick | I still use just Buffalo. |
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| 23:27.19 | Aethelwulf | I'll give buffalo 2 a try tonight in gruul's see how I like it then :) thanks |
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| 23:30.09 | Cryect | Did they fix the bugs in BUffalo2 ever? |
| 23:30.58 | Ellipsis | I think so, since it's back on trunk |
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| 23:32.00 | buu | Ellipsis: Gah, where is it? |
| 23:32.16 | buu | Oh, there it is. |
| 23:32.46 | Aethelwulf | any recommendations for or against candydice? |
| 23:33.48 | ZealotOnAStick | is that still maintained? |
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| 23:34.34 | Aethelwulf | no idea.... judging by your reaction though any recommendations for tracking durations and cooldowns of rogue (or even shaman) skills? |
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| 23:35.57 | Wobwork | msbt does it out of the box |
| 23:36.02 | Wobwork | "Stealth ready!" |
| 23:36.08 | Wobwork | "Vanish ready!" |
| 23:36.47 | durcyn | pick up hourglass for ability cooldowns |
| 23:39.50 | Aethelwulf | cause right now I am patching together a mash of candy dice, cooldown count and natur enemy cast bars and that is taking up too much space |
| 23:40.32 | CIA-7 | 03saroz * r53468 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua: |
| 23:40.32 | CIA-7 | FuBar_CraftTimersFu: |
| 23:40.32 | CIA-7 | - Make the fubar plug update when a new cooldown is received/updated. |
| 23:40.33 | Aethelwulf | starting to wish I had a widescreen lcd monitor so I could use a viewport addon lol |
| 23:40.45 | Antiarc | So, one of my guildmates is getting married this weekend, and she's going to have a live webcam broadcast of the ceremony. |
| 23:40.57 | Antiarc | And she told us that the wedding starts "at 6:30 server time." |
| 23:40.59 | Antiarc | I <3 nerds. |
| 23:41.04 | Wilbur | :-D |
| 23:41.08 | Wilbur | Typical WoW-girl |
| 23:41.42 | Antiarc | Server Time should be a timezone |
| 23:41.51 | Wilbur | Demand Wow-cake |
| 23:42.00 | Mudkips | =_= |
| 23:42.07 | Mudkips | needs wedding raid imo |
| 23:42.16 | Mudkips | like that raid on the funeral |
| 23:45.20 | [gk]Hotphoenix | (+Antiarc) Server Time should be a timezone - french timezone? ;p |
| 23:45.41 | Megalon | It's wrong to be french! |
| 23:45.54 | [gk]Hotphoenix | precisely |
| 23:46.20 | cncfanatics | its wrong to be like me :o COOL ! |
| 23:47.31 | Aethelwulf | does anyone have any idea why the wowace updater won't work on my machine? I keep trying to get a newer version but every time I install it I try running it and nothing happens |
| 23:47.48 | Mudkips | touch yourself at night much? |
| 23:50.09 | ulic | Aethelwulf: are you trying wau2? |
| 23:50.11 | ulic | ~wau2 |
| 23:50.12 | purl | i heard wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
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| 23:50.29 | fatbrain | off-topic, anyone know how to interact with npc's using commands? |
| 23:50.35 | Antiarc | you can't |
| 23:50.37 | Aethelwulf | i will give that one a try... |
| 23:50.41 | Mudkips | =_= |
| 23:50.51 | Mudkips | fatbrain, are you new to the game or smth? |
| 23:51.42 | Ellipsis | Mudkips, are you new to being a troll or have you been practicing? |
| 23:51.50 | Mudkips | T_T |
| 23:51.53 | JoshBorke | fatbrain: you cannot innitiate one |
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| 23:52.11 | JoshBorke | but you can pickup and sell once you've initiated a conversation |
| 23:52.14 | fatbrain | Mudkips: Wasn't that added in some patch? or was it removed?! or is it in 2.3? |
| 23:52.32 | Mudkips | @_@ news to me |
| 23:52.32 | fatbrain | Mudkips: I'm sick and tired of all the phat taurens that stand on top of npcs |
| 23:52.52 | Ellipsis | fatbrain, they're never going to add an API to interact with NPCs |
| 23:52.57 | Mudkips | pro tip, rightclick character panes |
| 23:52.59 | Ellipsis | too easy to use that to bot |
| 23:53.26 | ulic | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.55 | fatbrain | hehe, thanks |
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