IRC log for #wowace on 20071028

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00:02.44RaydenUnicyclistwowwebstats
00:02.53RaydenUnicyclistlooking at some of the hosted reports it lets you filter by boss fight
00:03.07RaydenUnicyclistis that only for hosted or can i make it do that when i generate for my computer?
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00:05.43Orionshockspyglass is fked
00:10.22HjalteOrionshock: So it's not good?
00:11.37Orionshockbroken
00:11.54Orionshocksome of it's function calles errored on me and hid the UI
00:12.27Orionshockbut on second look - it seems fine
00:13.32Nefarionwhich errors?
00:13.34Orionshockhe needs to add in some nil, idiot checks
00:15.28Orionshockerrors are from the paperdoll frame - some useage errors
00:15.54Orionshockwith it in standby mode it works just fine >.0
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00:19.21Orionshocki think im getting the hang of coding addons
00:20.21Nefarionoh.. i had assumed you were a coder
00:20.24Nefarion=/
00:20.34Nefarion^^
00:22.40Orionshockhehe.. im a reverse-engineer :D
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00:24.01Nefarionyeah i started out reverse engineering code.
00:24.09Nefarionfun times
00:28.28Nefariondoes 7zip handle gzip?
00:29.08starlonyes
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00:32.03Orionshockwhat a bad place to get disconnected in
00:32.05Orionshock>.>
00:32.18RoartindonOrionshock: Thaddius :P
00:32.28OrionshockBEM while doing the bombing run
00:33.10Polytechguys anyone knows what causes critical error at start, after today's new patch on ptr version?
00:33.29Polytechwithout addons there's no critical error
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00:33.58Orionshockatlas loot?
00:34.08Polytechgonna check
00:34.49Polytechnot atlas loot :)
00:37.26NefarionWhat's the critical error?
00:37.47*** join/#wowace Busko (n=Bunko@c83-250-145-225.bredband.comhem.se)
00:37.52Nefarion...memory could not be 'read' ?
00:38.00Polytechnope
00:38.15Polytechit says M2Model.cpp file
00:38.29Nefarionwhat's the error itself say?
00:38.43Polytechone sec
00:39.27PolytechERROR #0 (0x85100000) Assertion Failure
00:39.28PolytechProgram:C:\Games\Burning Crusade\WoWTest\WoW.exe
00:39.28PolytechFile:.\M2Model.cpp
00:39.28PolytechLine:3429
00:39.28PolytechExpr:cameraIndex < data->cameras.count
00:40.01Nefarionhmmm.. post it on the technical forums
00:40.20Polytechbut its caused by addons
00:40.32Polytechthey will just advice to delete interface folder etc
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00:40.40Polytechgame is running smooth without addons
00:40.46Nefarionit might not be directly.
00:40.53Polytechhm ok
00:41.10Nefarionno, gms tell you to delete the interface folder. in the support forums they actually know how to help.  >>
00:41.11starlongot an addon screwing with the camera?
00:41.36Polytechok i figured ag_unitframes causes it, maybe other addons too
00:41.55Xinhuancos the tech supporters actually know how to program lol!
00:42.03Polytechjust tryed to launch with only ag_unitframes turned on
00:42.15Polytechalso tried with few other addons, went smooth without error
00:42.41CIA-703ackis * r53349 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
00:42.41CIA-7AckisRecipeList:
00:42.41CIA-7- Some GUI efficiency updates
00:42.41CIA-7- Fix for Skillet
00:42.41CIA-7- Added border to progression bar
00:42.42Nefarionit could be issues calling modules or similar. it's something you should post anyway.
00:42.49Nefarionmodels***
00:42.55Polytechok ill post it
00:43.29Nefariongenerally errors like that (not shown in-game) are in the game's code and not the addons, so it's something they need to address there
00:45.58Polytechah crap
00:46.23Polytechcant post it
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00:48.03Polytechthanks for help anyway
00:48.04Orionshock<PROTECTED>
00:48.26Orionshockis #SOCD... going to return the number of entrys in the table?
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00:49.27Nefarionyes
00:49.31Nefarionbasically
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00:53.26Orionshockwell my .. not-so-simple-but-simple addon is almost done.... just got to get to the netherwing quests
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00:55.02Nefarionwhat's it do?
00:55.13Orionshockone would think it would be rather simple, just pick up the daily quest and turn in it in.. but no blizzard has to have fucked up quest logic
00:55.29RaydenUnicyclist?
00:55.41RaydenUnicyclistwhat is your addon?
00:55.43Orionshockshock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys
00:56.10Nefarionoh right i saw a page for that
00:56.25JagobahOooo!
00:57.17Orionshockthe zip on google is stable but backwards
00:57.20Orionshockthe svn is stable atm
00:57.27RaydenUnicyclistwhat does it do?
00:57.35Orionshockread the code
00:57.45Orionshockb/c i have to go afk for a long time :D
00:58.17RaydenUnicyclistdid you just tell me to read your code in order to understand what your entire addon does?
01:00.19Jagobahwhat are the "cliff notes" of your code ;o
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01:02.33RaydenUnicyclistit says it clicks your dailies for you
01:02.37RaydenUnicyclistbut i have no idea what that means
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01:03.11SilowyiRecount vs Recap... which should I switch to from SWStats?
01:03.23Lukiansome people swear by recount
01:03.31LukianI use swstats and violation personally
01:03.36Nefarion"and"?
01:03.46Nefarionyou run both?
01:03.51SilowyiSW Stats hasn't updated in a long time, usually I dump a mod after 5 months no updates
01:03.58LukianNefarion, yes?
01:04.06NefarionWhy?
01:04.06NightHawkTheSanebecause after 5 months, all mods spontaneously break
01:04.09KirkburnAnyone in the UK: clocks just went back an hour!
01:04.12Lukiansw stats still offers filters the others don't
01:04.32Nefarionnight's right  lol
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01:04.41Lukianviolation has a better dps report and it doesn't rely on the raid leader to have allowed posting
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01:07.06Xinhuanexcept that "dps report" is meaningless for a boss fight
01:07.18Xinhuandps = damage / duration
01:07.24Xinhuanand duration is a fixed constant
01:07.32Xinhuanso reporting "damage done" is equivalent to reporting "dps"
01:07.38Xinhuanjust divided by a constant number
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01:08.12Xinhuana "frill" basically
01:08.17Lukiani run 5 mans more, I prefer to see "burst" dps and then compare it to damage done
01:08.29Lukianif their burst dps is higher than their overall, they are slacking
01:08.43NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: no, dps report is a way for certin addons to fudge numbers by using different values for fight duration. :P
01:08.47Xinhuanit also takes up more memory to store all that extra data ;p
01:09.13Lukianyeah, that's why swstats/recount etc uses more resources :p
01:09.28LukianI've seen recount @ 6.8MB
01:09.35Nefarionwow
01:09.46LukianNefarion, yes, swstats is lighter
01:09.54Lukianviolation is super-light
01:10.05Nefarionviolation more than suffices for all my needs  =/
01:10.21Nefarionexcept that by default it's super fugly
01:12.13JagobahSupposedly violation has a better way of measuring DPS than swstats does
01:12.21Jagobahdamage done is still the same
01:12.38Xinhuanit isn't by any stretch accurate, if you count "combat duration"
01:12.48Xinhuanone could just wait until the last moment to enter combat and use a instant cast
01:12.52Xinhuanthen go out
01:13.01Diaowell
01:13.04Diaodon't bosses put you in combat
01:13.08Diaowhen engaged
01:13.09Nefarionand unintentionally that can skew results
01:13.11Xinhuannon bosses don't
01:13.56Diaotrue
01:14.11Diaoi only keep dps counts for entire runs though
01:14.20Diaoso it averages out
01:14.22JagobahWell, we had a holy paladin do exorcism?  on hyjal trash
01:14.27Jagobahas his only offensive move
01:14.30Xinhuanduration in combat timings does tell you who is afk though
01:14.31Jagobahand he had like 5000 dps
01:14.35Jagobahon violation
01:15.12Nefarionimo damage done represents better overall damage contribution. though with different class roles and abilites, and gear and talents and spell rotation variation you can't use it as an accurate representation of contribution most of the time
01:16.13RaydenUnicyclistso on topic
01:16.27RaydenUnicyclistwhen i run 5 mans i do little dps vs trash
01:16.34RaydenUnicyclistbut i'm always right at the top when fighting bosses
01:16.40RaydenUnicyclist<= shadow priest
01:16.47RaydenUnicyclisti bring more than just dps, healing and mana
01:16.53RaydenUnicyclistbut does that make sense?
01:16.58Nefarionmhm
01:17.04NightHawkTheSanehow is this on topic again?
01:17.06Nefarionwait what
01:17.12NightHawkTheSaneand, more importantly, who cares?
01:17.25RaydenUnicyclistnefarion was talking about damage done vs dps
01:17.37RaydenUnicyclistso i'm asking about damage done/dps on mobs vs on bosses
01:17.46NightHawkTheSaneno one cares about trash
01:17.54Nefarionit's hard to see real contribution
01:17.57RaydenUnicyclistthat's what i'm asking about
01:17.59Lukianthat's why I use swstats..
01:18.02Lukian"Damage to Target"
01:18.08RaydenUnicyclisti could do more dps vs trash, but i'd be drinking after every other battle
01:18.17Nefarionsome classes need to juggle cces and emergency heals and emergency aggro pulls while others can sit there and do pure sustained damage.
01:18.27RaydenUnicyclisti've been using recount and only looking at dps during current battle
01:18.31Nefarionit's not always the top damagers that contribute the most
01:18.39RaydenUnicyclisttrue
01:18.45NightHawkTheSanethats just it, as long as trash dies and no one in the group does, no one cares (or should care) how much damage you do to trash
01:18.53RaydenUnicyclistit just seems that shadow priests are kind of useless against trash
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01:19.00NefarionIf you really want to compare contribution, then watch their performance with your eyes..
01:19.04RaydenUnicyclistno one else is bugging me, i'm just trying to get better
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01:19.37Nefarionyeah comparing damage against trash is pretty pointless.
01:19.58NightHawkTheSaneit's like having a pissing into the wind contes.t
01:20.09RaydenUnicyclistok
01:20.11Nefarionhaha
01:20.13RaydenUnicyclistthat makes sense
01:20.44RaydenUnicyclistdps meters need a "dps from boss" state
01:20.49Nefarioni think a few too many people are busy inflating their own ego at the thought that they're *contributing more and performing better*
01:20.58NightHawkTheSaneit's called a reset button
01:21.03RaydenUnicyclisti know there is more than just dps
01:21.14RaydenUnicyclistbut as a dps class, i want to make sure i'm not slacking in that area
01:21.16Nefarionsome can reset on entering combat, good for that
01:21.32RaydenUnicyclistlike i said, i've been using recount's "current battle" setting
01:21.37RaydenUnicyclistand it remembers the last 5 battles or so
01:21.45RaydenUnicyclistso i can easily see how well i'm doing on each battle
01:21.49Nefarionthen do the math to make sure your gear is as good as it can be at the moment, and make sure your spell rotation is optimal
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01:22.25RaydenUnicyclisti'm doing 300dps to trash while the hunter is doing 500, but then vs bosses we both do 500
01:22.48Xinhuanwhy do you do less on trash?
01:23.03RaydenUnicyclistwell i don't generally use SWP
01:23.12RaydenUnicyclisttrash don't live anywhere close to 24 seconds
01:23.23RaydenUnicyclistand i don't use SWD and MB as often
01:23.29RaydenUnicyclistmostly just VE, VT, and MF
01:23.37Xinhuanina typical pull of 5 mobs you could dot up the last 4
01:23.40Xinhuanand end up doing more
01:24.08NightHawkTheSaneonly if they're not being cc'd
01:24.27Xinhuanstill doesn't mean you can't use sw:p
01:24.36Xinhuanunless you're running into serious mana issues on trash?
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01:25.42RaydenUnicyclistthat's a good point
01:26.06RaydenUnicyclistthe other day running Bot with a pally tank i realized he was generating enough threat on all the mobs i could start dotting stuff
01:26.12Xinhuan"mob doesn't live 24 secs, so casting sw:p on it is a waste of mana" unless you're running out of mana, i still see no reason why you can't use it, the mob could die 2 secs faster!
01:26.14RaydenUnicyclisti was using VT though instead of SWP
01:26.28RaydenUnicyclisti ended up stopping that because mana regen from just VT is minimal
01:26.47Xinhuanthere's typically enough time to drink 20-30 secs between pulls anyway
01:26.57Xinhuanand usually more than that if there's loot
01:31.42RaydenUnicyclisthmm
01:32.27RaydenUnicyclisti need to set up some better macros for using inner fire and my trinkets
01:33.01RaydenUnicyclistand also look into stopcasting
01:33.07RaydenUnicyclistbut that is getting addressed in 2.3 isn't it?
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01:33.46Nefarionyes, but 2.3 is some ways away at this point
01:33.49Nefarionprobably
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01:34.29Nefarionthe stopcasting trick has uses even after the fix--it turns all spells into emergency spells, auto-breaking the current cast in favor of the new cast
01:34.57Xinhuansuch as Counterspell
01:34.58Xinhuanin pvp
01:35.06RaydenUnicyclisti need to do research into how it works and why
01:35.21RaydenUnicyclistand then play with the lag meter in quartz
01:35.32Dustwhisperquestion, does melee crits vs spell crits generate diff levels of aggro ?
01:35.42Nefarionsimply convert all spells to a macro:  /stopcasting | /cast <spellname>
01:36.06RaydenUnicyclistbut i want to know why that matters :)
01:36.12Nefarionon my 'lock every spell is converted because it's extremely useful in pvp to have those emergency casts available
01:36.16DustwhisperSome people in my guild swear spellcrits do 3x the threat of a hit (ontop of dmg threat)
01:36.19NightHawkTheSaneDustwhisper: only in terms of how much damage they do
01:36.21RaydenUnicyclistlol
01:36.27NightHawkTheSanea crit does not generate any threat above and beyond its damage
01:36.35NefarionDustwhisper, no.
01:36.42RaydenUnicyclisti would think that spell crits do less than melee crits, not because it's spell but because it's ranged?
01:36.43NightHawkTheSane(unless you have a talent or piece of gear that explicitly says so)
01:36.46Dustwhisperhow does "prism of inner calm" work then that lowers the threat of your critical strikes ?
01:36.53Dustwhisperand please show me empirical evidence to smack in their face
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01:37.08RaydenUnicyclisti think you should require them to bring you proof
01:37.18RaydenUnicyclistnothing points to it being any different
01:37.33NefarionExcept for modified spells (by talents, items, etc), crits do nothing but their damage in threat times their threat coeff
01:37.37Nefarionsame as non-crits
01:37.48RaydenUnicyclistit's like asking you to prove that blocked spells don't generate threat
01:37.59RaydenUnicyclistof course they don't, but you won't find it in any documentation
01:38.08DustwhisperYou see these people will only back down if you disprove them
01:38.12Dustwhisperthey never bother proving their own
01:38.24Nefariontell them "you're an idiot"
01:38.27RaydenUnicyclistthese people are known as idiots
01:38.28Nefarionsolved
01:38.31RaydenUnicyclisti recommend you stop dealing with them
01:38.54RaydenUnicyclistsend them this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
01:39.08Nefarionor instead counter that they should bring *you* proof when claiming widely accepted knowledge is false
01:40.17NightHawkTheSaneNefarion:  callthem idiots, then /ignore
01:40.36Dustwhispernow they are saying 3k shield slam generates 10k threat
01:40.39Dustwhisper3k shield slam crit
01:41.05NightHawkTheSanethey're kind of idiots.
01:41.18NightHawkTheSaneand by "kind of" i mean "stark raving"
01:41.35RaydenUnicyclistDustwhisper ask them if 0.999~ = 1
01:41.46RaydenUnicyclistand when they say no, ask if they are sure
01:41.55RaydenUnicyclistand then tell them they are idiots for claiming things they know nothing about
01:42.07hyperChipmunki was just assaulted by a mental midgit who insisted that .999999 = 1
01:42.21Xelopherisshield slam does what, double damage in threat?
01:42.50NightHawkTheSaneno, it has an additional threat component
01:42.53Xelopherisor does it just have passive +threat
01:42.53Xelopherisoh
01:42.53NightHawkTheSaneplus, presumably, defeiance
01:43.17Xelopherisk well 3000 + 310 * 1.30 * 1.45 = not 10k
01:43.56hyperChipmunk~3000 + 310 * 1.30 * 1.45
01:43.57purl3584.35
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01:44.21Xelopheris~(3000+310) *1.3 *1.45
01:44.22purl6239.349999999999
01:44.27NightHawkTheSanewhere does 1.3 come from?
01:44.33hyperChipmunkstance?
01:44.35Xelopherisdefensive stance
01:44.38NightHawkTheSaneer
01:44.42NightHawkTheSanethen what's 1.45?
01:44.56Xelopheris~(3000+310) *1.3 *1.15
01:44.56purl4948.45
01:45.02hyperChipmunkmodifier maybe
01:45.09Xelopheris1.15 is defiance >.>
01:45.36NightHawkTheSaneyes, not .45 ;)
01:46.45Xelopherisshhh
01:46.48Aens|Superioritydoes anyone know the min level to zone into zulfarrak?
01:46.49Xelopherisdon't tell anyoen that I'm stupid
01:46.53Xinhuan1
01:46.57XelopherisI'd guess 30~ish
01:47.02Xinhuank i lied
01:47.29Nefarionit's somewhere around 10-14 levels below the minimum listed on the stone, or something like that..
01:47.40XelopherisI know RFC is 8
01:47.50NightHawkTheSaneXelopheris: welli don't need to tell them that. :P
01:53.42Xelopherisman, I love defending stonehearth graveyard so much
01:53.49Xelopherisso much that I am chatting on IRC instead of playing ;)
01:54.34Dustwhisperdoes mangle or maul have threat modifiers ?
01:55.12Xelopherismangle has a modifier to equal 1.3* your weapon damage
01:55.18Xelopherisand it itself deals 1.15
01:55.23Xelopheris~1.3/1.15
01:55.24purl1.130434782609
01:55.33Xelopherismaul has static + threat
01:55.39Xinhuan~1/0
01:55.40purl1/0 is probably undefined
01:55.48Xinhuan~1.23402/0
01:55.59Xinhuani think i broke purl
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01:56.05Xelopheris~sqrt(-169)
01:56.25Nefarionlawl
01:56.46Nefarioni think it locked up  =X
01:56.50Nefarion~1+1
01:56.51purli heard 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1, or 0
01:57.05Xinhuan~1.23402/0
01:57.33EkreiiI'm kind of new at LUA scripting... So I just was wondering, how do I make an addon do a slash command that belongs to another addon?
01:57.50NefarionSlashCmdList.CMDNAME()
01:58.08EkreiiThanks :)
01:58.15Nefarionyou need to know its command name. defined by the portion " SlashCmdList["blah"] = function "
01:58.21Nefarionthe blah
01:58.40EkreiiOw, my brain just hurt... lol
01:58.50Nefarion=/
01:59.05EkreiiThat last part confused me a little...
01:59.21EkreiiSo if I wanted to control bongos by doing /bongos copy Default
01:59.43Nefarionwhen you look in addon files they'll generally list their slash functions as " SlashCmdList["name"] = function ", and you just grab the appropriate name
02:00.13EkreiiOh, ok
02:00.53Nefarionyou can also do a "/dump SlashCmdList" in-game to see the contents of the table
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02:05.48RaydenUnicyclistwhat is BT content?
02:06.01RaydenUnicyclistoh nm
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02:08.52RaydenUnicyclistwhat would you guys think if Blizzard let you queue one spell?
02:09.09TNSethey will only let you queue one spell :P
02:09.11RaydenUnicyclistyou are casting one spell, and then before you can cast another you click the spell. once you can cast you do cast
02:09.16TNSeyou have to perm spam next spell
02:09.18RaydenUnicyclistthey don't let you queue any
02:09.25RaydenUnicyclistbut that's semantics
02:09.27TNSeyes
02:09.29TNSesemantics
02:09.36TNSeif you spam the button you eeffectively queue it
02:09.47RaydenUnicyclisti'm casting Mind Flay, i click Mind Flay while it is casting and it automatically gets cast once i'm done casting the first one
02:10.00TNSeyeah well
02:10.04RaydenUnicyclistthis would do away with the whole lag/stopcasting issue
02:10.06CodayusI believe I saw slouken say they're investigating moving to a 1 deep queue based on their experiences with the current PTR.
02:10.06TNSechannelled spells are getting underpowered in 2.3
02:10.22RaydenUnicyclistSlouken?
02:10.31TNSebecause of the inability to know when server can start next
02:10.38CodayusBecause frankly, the current fix on the PTR is pretty underwhelming.
02:10.56RaydenUnicyclisti'm asking from a game design perspective
02:11.04RaydenUnicyclistwhat are reasons for not allowing a queue?
02:11.32CodayusRaydenUnicyclist: A 1 deep queue would be extremely good for the players if done right.  Concerns center on server load and on whether it was confusing.
02:11.46CodayusA queue, by its nature, means that your character does something without you telling it to.
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02:12.15CodayusHow do you know what's queued?  How do you clear the queue?  How confused will a casual be when they hit frostbolt twice, frostbolt a mob, and then....do it again?
02:12.42CodayusHow much whining will there be about queued spells breaking CC?  :-)
02:13.10RaydenUnicyclisthmm, all good issues
02:13.21CodayusOn the other hand, warriors already have queues, kinda, in the form of the Heroic Strike and Cleave, which are "on next attack" skills.  Hit the button, it gets a glowing outline, and next time your swing timer is up, it fires.
02:13.58Dustwhisperanyone got a screen of burning soul pre TBC
02:14.02Dustwhisperwhen mages had 30% threat reduction
02:14.03Dustwhisperon fire
02:14.05CodayusIt's pretty intuitive...
02:15.40RaydenUnicyclisti should make a stack based combat game
02:16.21NefarionI believe Slouken specifically denied requests for spell queueing multiple times, and I can see the reason myself.
02:16.51CodayusLet me see if I can find the post I'm thinking of
02:17.02NefarionIt takes all depth out of the play. You shouldn't be able to hit 10 buttons in a second and take care of your actions for the next several seconds.
02:17.18CodayusNefarion: Nobody is asking for anything other than a 1 deep queue.
02:17.20CodayusAFAIK.
02:17.22NefarionOh yes melee abilities can sometimes queue
02:17.25RaydenUnicyclisti certainly wouldn't ask for more than 1 deep
02:17.35Nefarioni don't think 1 deep is really necessary
02:17.37RaydenUnicyclistqueueing up 10 spells would be bad
02:17.49CodayusNefarion: Class and location you play the game in?  :-)
02:17.54RaydenUnicyclistbut no queue punishes those with lag doesn' it?
02:18.21Nefarionwarlock, and i get around 150 ping. i can fix any latency with the stopcasting trick--which has been impemented by default in 2.3.
02:18.55CodayusRaydenUnicyclist: Heavily.  /stopcasting pre-2.3 kinda sorta fixes that.  Some of the things they've tried on the PTR *BREAK* the /stopcasting trick and do NOT fix it, particular for 1.5s spells.
02:18.57Nefarioni think the availability of spell queueing could mess up casters in pvp, when they suddenly need to switch choice of spell only to realize it's too late.
02:19.34RaydenUnicyclisti think you should limit queueing to casting at the end of the previous spell
02:19.51Nefarionthat's the idea of queueing....
02:19.54CodayusNefarion: That is the main issue, yes.
02:19.56Nefarionunless i'm reading you wrong
02:20.05RaydenUnicyclistlike you can't click MF twice and have it cast twice
02:20.14RaydenUnicyclistyou'd have to be within 0.1 seconds of the end of the first
02:20.18RaydenUnicyclistor something like that
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02:32.57KirkburnAnd that is what we call a netsplit :P
02:32.57CodayusNefarion: Tests give conflicting info, seems to be changing from build to build.  At times, at least, it appears to break matters for hunters and also for instacast spells, because they're still not letting you spam during the GCD, and the GCD starts when server acknowledges it.
02:32.57CodayusHence, with 500ms of lag, chaining instacast spells can be done only every 2.0s.  Maybe.  Sometimes.  :-)
02:32.57CodayusEr, assuming 250ms of lag, even.
02:32.57Codayushttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=879058320&pageNo=11&sid=1#219
02:32.57CodayusWhat, precisely, Slouken's comment means is unclear, but it sounds a lot like a limited 1 deep server-side queue.  Perhaps.
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02:56.00CIA-703hshh * r53351 10PlayerMenu/PlayerMenu.lua: PlayerMenu: improve realm info process. fix secure frame relative point
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02:56.00RaydenUnicyclistwhat's a mod that will tell me when i interrupt mind flay and only get 2 ticks isntead of 3?
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02:58.37NightHawkTheSaneRaydenUnicyclist: was there a problem with using the nochanneling macro conditional?
02:59.28RaydenUnicyclistwell i'm playing with stop casting and latency
02:59.37RaydenUnicyclistnochanneling causes a problem with that
03:00.21RaydenUnicyclistright?
03:00.55Nefarionyes
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03:18.54Solegood day
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03:27.25nymbiawhat's up Sole
03:27.32Solenot much
03:27.39Solegot a report due in tommorow on Tolkien :(
03:28.04nymbiatomorrow?
03:28.08Soleya
03:28.17Solegotta cover 5 of his works
03:28.24Solean interview counts as well
03:28.37Soleso Ive read 4 of his novels and I can use an interview just coz I need a 5th
03:28.54CIA-703next96 * r53352 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-koKR.lua:
03:28.54CIA-7Skillet:
03:28.54CIA-7- Update locale koKR
03:29.10nymbiafun stuff
03:29.26Solenot really
03:29.51Soleit doesnt have to be long, it just takes effort. Effort I dont want give :P
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03:31.25Soleis the correct term  obliged or obligated?
03:33.12kenlyricuh, which context?
03:33.28Soleobliged to fulfill a seemingly impossible task
03:34.53nymbiaobligated
03:35.00Solethanks
03:35.17kenlyricneed more context really, but obligated is more likely.
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03:38.12Funkeh`nymbia make love to me
03:38.36NightHawkTheSaneSole: dictionary.com. use it, love it. :)
03:38.52SoleNightHawkTheSane: forgot about it :P
03:38.57SoleNightHawkTheSane: thanks for the reminder
03:39.08NightHawkTheSanealso, googling for "define:<word>" works rather nicely
03:39.23Soleooh
03:40.45kenlyric1. to constrain by physical, moral, or legal force or by circumstance    1. to bind or compel, legally or morally
03:40.49kenlyricthey're kinda similar :)
03:41.02Ellipsisaestil: I just got Quag's eye \o/
03:41.06nymbiaFunkeh`: k
03:41.35Funkeh`nymbia, Now? Coming over?
03:46.34nymbiayup
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04:25.09starlon_How can you tell if a buff is refreshed?
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04:25.20FireAllianceNXgood evening
04:41.58CIA-703kemayo * r53353 10BankStack/ (. BankStack.toc core.lua): BankStack: Stacks items from your bags to your bank.
04:42.29KemayoBecause you would not believe how sick I was of MrPlow not working.
04:45.57Xinhuani have decided to farm AV for honor
04:46.00NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: can you get sick of FreeRefils not refilling from banks and make an addon to do that too?
04:46.03Xinhuanin favour of writing any addon code this week
04:46.27Xinhuaneasy NightHawkTheSane, don't refill from bank, always go to a vendor instead
04:46.38Xinhuanthat saves you bank space too!
04:46.42NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: find me a vendor that sells fish oil and shiny fish scales and I will
04:46.51Xinhuan:(
04:46.59NightHawkTheSaneyeah, thats what I say.
04:47.12Xinhuanhow often do you use fish oil
04:47.15Xinhuantwice a week?
04:47.27NightHawkTheSanei forgot which is which, but it depends
04:47.33kenlyricas soon as vendor gives me light feathers.
04:48.07NightHawkTheSanei mean, if I do an instance like SV, i'll probably use half a dozen or so casts of water walking
04:48.21Xinhuanyou go by the back route?
04:48.27Xinhuanthe front route is slightly faster
04:48.31kenlyricheck, if I could get them from a vendor I'd always levitate :)
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04:49.57kenlyricI remember once going to onyxia I ran out of light feathers.
04:50.00KemayoNightHawkTheSane: As soon as I start using FreeRefills I will doubtless become sick of that.  Until then, all bets are off. :D
04:50.05kenlyricHad to swim like a common person.
04:50.13NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: what class are you?
04:50.24Xinhuana swim speed belt fixes that problem
04:50.35KemayoNightHawkTheSane: Mainly a warrior and a warlock.  I have a shaman who I'll start levelling again once 2.3 hits, though.
04:50.36kenlyricno it doesn't
04:50.41kenlyricyou still have to swim.
04:51.09NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: yeah, i can see for those classes it not being quite as useful
04:51.29NightHawkTheSanei'd like to be able to use FR to keep full stacks of not just reagens, but mana/health pots as well
04:51.50Xinhuanedit it
04:52.31NightHawkTheSaneI've considered it.
04:52.56kenlyriclight feathers are the reason I didn't know un'goro had an entrance until I had levelled past it.
04:54.08NightHawkTheSaneBut the fact that a) I'm not particularly fluent in lua. b) I'd have a bit of ramp-up time figuring out how the mod does what it does and c) i'm fucking lazy. i've just not bothered
04:54.08kenlyricjump in, hearth back out to gadg.
04:54.08starlonI don't get why PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED isn't fired when I refresh battle shout...
04:54.36dylanmWhat do you mean by "refreshed"
04:54.45starlonAnyone know why? Know of another event I may have looked over?
04:54.56dylanmDo you cast it before the old one is over/
04:54.58starlonI mean, I already have battle shout, and I refresh it.
04:55.01starlonright
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04:55.09dylanmBecause that won't count as a change
04:55.20NightHawkTheSanebecause your auras arn't changing? :P
04:55.24NightHawkTheSanearen't*
04:55.41starlonWell I'm looking at ElkBuffbars and that's the only event he's using to update the bars.
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04:55.56starlonAnd the battleshout button refreshes
04:56.16starlonElkBuffbar's button refreshes I mean
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04:57.37kenlyricanyone have a clue why pet debuffs don't seem to have timers?
04:57.52kenlyricbuffs do, but debuffs don't
04:58.16NightHawkTheSaneblizzard made a mistake and didn't properly flag them as being cast by you?
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05:02.02dylanm_starlon: I'm guessing what happens is that whenever does an update (to animate the bars or what have you) it sets all of the values for the bars. So the behavior is to be expected.
05:02.33starlonWell the only way I can figure to do this is with OnUpdate, but I wanted to avoid that.
05:03.01Xinhuanonupdate is usually the only way to do animations
05:03.04NightHawkTheSanestarlon: check out the code?
05:03.05starlonElkBuffbar doesn't so there has to be a way. I'm not seeing it.
05:03.11starlonI am
05:03.12Xinhuaneverything else is eventbased
05:03.38starlonHe appears to just use
05:03.43starlonPLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED
05:08.01CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53354 10PeriodicTable-3.1/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
05:08.01CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.1:
05:08.01CIA-7- Let's see if I can commit bat files now...
05:08.57nymbiahawt
05:09.21Xinhuanyou can probably commit them, but not remove/edit them ;p
05:09.51nymbianaw it was erroring saying i couldnt edit when i tried to move it
05:10.07Xinhuanya that's what i'm saying
05:10.14Xinhuanyou can import bat files
05:10.17Xinhuanbut not modify/edit/delete
05:11.00CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53355 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1-Data/pt3lod.bat:
05:11.00CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.1:
05:11.00CIA-7- testing Xinhuan's theory
05:11.03RaydenUnicyclisthttp://wowhead.com/?item=31104 <-- are there any "easy" replacements for this for a shadow priest?
05:11.17Xinhuan:(
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05:11.23RaydenUnicyclisti'm trying to decide if i should spend 90g on the shatari glyph or get a better headpiece first
05:11.24FireAllianceNXdoes anyone know how to unset autopromote in oRA2?
05:13.57FinRaydenUnicyclist: only crafted
05:13.58nymbiaFunkeh`: remind me again why my directory structure is like this
05:14.10Finotherwise it's the best you'll get for a while
05:14.13CIA-703nogudnik * r53356 10Skillet/UI/MainFrame.lua:
05:14.13CIA-7Skillet:
05:14.13CIA-7<PROTECTED>
05:14.13CIA-7<PROTECTED>
05:14.13CIA-7<PROTECTED>
05:14.18RaydenUnicyclistcrafted?
05:14.30Finbattlecast or spellstrike hood
05:14.31Funkeh`nymbia, like?
05:14.57nymbiaFunkeh`: Lib/LibStub/1.0/LibStub.lua
05:15.12Funkeh`You didn't svn update did you
05:15.24nymbiai did actually
05:15.34Funkeh`O_o
05:15.37RaydenUnicyclistoh
05:15.47RaydenUnicyclistthose are pretty expensive aren't they?
05:15.48Funkeh`Bit different on my screen nymbia ;p
05:16.00nymbiaoh damn you win
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05:16.01nymbia<3
05:16.12Funkeh`;)
05:16.19RaydenUnicyclisthmm
05:16.31Codayus_Spellstrike set will last you through T5.
05:16.51Codayus_The helm off VR is a sidegrade - more dmg, but no proc.
05:17.09Ellipsisthe proc is absolutely beautiful btw
05:17.19Ellipsisjust got my spellstrike finished and I am *loving* it
05:17.26Codayus_*nod*
05:17.39nymbiaFunkeh`: ok question 2
05:17.47Codayus_When I respecced shadow, I picked up the full FSW set, full spellstrike, and the crusade card.
05:17.55nymbiaFunkeh`: why drop the X-AceForum and X-Website
05:17.56Ellipsiswant crusade card :(
05:18.19Funkeh`nymbia, I didn't 'drop' it just commented it as I assume you will be making new ones
05:18.25Codayus_~5k gold all up, but I went from mixed blues from questing to T5-ish quality gear in one jump...
05:18.58RaydenUnicyclistthe helm off VR?
05:19.08nymbiaFunkeh`: yeah that's what i meant, i was wondering if there was some reason to remove those tags other than them being outta date
05:19.16Funkeh`nah
05:19.21Funkeh`add them back when you're done
05:19.34RaydenUnicyclistCodayus_ VR helm?
05:19.38Funkeh`or whatever ;p
05:19.38Codayus_RaydenUnicyclist: Cowl of the Grand Engineer or something?  It has a little more dmg than spellstrike, but no hit.  It's a minor upgrade except spellstrike has a bitching proc.
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05:20.56kandarzwhat's an easy way to get screen resolution?
05:21.55Codayus_Spellstrike set bonus can be viewed as a passive 15-ish dmg for a shadow priest, based on simulations.  Not huge, but it's enough to make spellstrike competitive with T5 gear.
05:22.32hyperChipmunkWorldFrame:GetWidth()/<the ui scale>
05:22.39hyperChipmunknot exactly easy though
05:22.44hyperChipmunkthere's probably a better way
05:23.01hyperChipmunkoh
05:23.10hyperChipmunkUIParent:GetWidth() and UIParent:GetHeight()
05:23.25nymbiaFunkeh`: WHAT IF I DON'T WANT TO
05:23.27nymbiaHUH?
05:23.35hyperChipmunkalthough if there's a viewport addon, it may change that
05:23.45EllipsisCodayus_: is that if it just procs randomly during your rotation or if you modify your casts to make better use of the proc?
05:23.46Funkeh`nymbia,
05:23.50Funkeh`nymbia, the world ends
05:24.03nymbia<3
05:24.12Codayus_Ellipsis: The former.
05:24.14Codayus_I haven'
05:24.30Codayus_t done the math, but I don'tthink you'd come out ahead from varying your casts.
05:24.37Ellipsiseh, I dunno
05:24.51EllipsisI think from a DPS perspective you can, but it does cost you in DPM
05:24.56Codayus_Yes.
05:25.02Ellipsisas a warlock, at least
05:25.07Ellipsisidk what a spriest rotation looks like
05:25.30Codayus_I was thinking of it from a spriest perspective...not sure about 'locks.  :-)
05:26.05NightHawkTheSanepfft. "rotations", lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, etc. ;)
05:26.06Ellipsisanyone figured out yet whether it affects spells you're casting if it wears off before you finish? (or in travel time, etc)?
05:26.46NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: iirc, a spell gets the effect of any buffs/debuffs active when the cast starts, so it should
05:26.50Ellipsishmm
05:26.59EllipsisI wonder happens if I start a drain life just before it wears off
05:27.09Ellipsisif all of the ticks benefit or just the ones whie it's active
05:27.10NightHawkTheSanechanneled spells may be different, i'm not sure
05:27.24Ellipsisthat'd be pretty sweet if it lasts the full duration
05:27.38EllipsisI can extend the effective proc an extra few seconds that way
05:32.11Kalman|Auras on the player are cheked at the beginning of the spell, auras on the target are checked at the end.
05:32.38Kalman|Er, not end, continuously.
05:32.49Kalman|Don't type and AV at the same time, kids.  :/
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05:35.00hyperChipmunkis there a module for Grid that shows pets?
05:39.37CIA-703kemayo * r53357 10BankStack/ (BankStack.toc Bindings.xml core.lua fu.lua):
05:39.37CIA-7BankStack:
05:39.37CIA-7-Messages so you know what it's doing
05:39.37CIA-7-Bindings.xml
05:39.37CIA-7-Lazy minimal fubar plugin. (If someone can make the icon work, be my guest.)
05:40.30FireAllianceNXheh
05:42.14RaydenUnicyclistrecommend +spell dmg x3 for spellstrike hood for spriest?
05:42.19RaydenUnicyclistsocket bonus is +6 stamina
05:42.40FireAllianceNXwhat's your +hit like?
05:42.54Kalman|Recommend +dmg for all sockets for an spriest with one or two exceptions.
05:43.05RaydenUnicyclista couple points from capped with 4/5 talent
05:43.19FireAllianceNXthen +dmg sounds great
05:43.28RaydenUnicyclisteach of my FSW piece has +4 spell, +5 hit
05:43.54Kalman|As an spriest, the correct answer (99% of the time) is +dmg.
05:44.22RaydenUnicyclist+hit (till cap), +dmg, then +stamina as a distant third?
05:44.25FireAllianceNXif you could get a Veiled whatever gem, you should finish the cap
05:44.54RaydenUnicyclistvailed noble topaz are in my FSW pieces
05:45.03Kalman|I don't gem stamina at all, except in cases where socket bonus makes a purple gem worth using in a blue socket.
05:45.08Kalman|Of course, I don't gem hit either.
05:45.26FireAllianceNXYeah, stamina isn't really a priority for spriest
05:45.30RaydenUnicyclisthmm
05:45.34RaydenUnicyclistspellstrike hood might have put me to cap
05:45.39FireAllianceNXa warlock maybe :)
05:45.46Kalman|You'll get enough stamina from the items to keep you up.
05:46.05Kemayockknight: If you're around, could you tell me why the icon isn't showing up in this FuBar plugin?  http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BankStack/fu.lua
05:46.08FireAllianceNXyou should probably get +crit if you use mind blast + SWD a lot
05:46.16Kemayockknight: (Apart from it being commented out, that is.)
05:46.20FireAllianceNXafter +dmg
05:46.22Kalman|No, you really should not get +crit, ever.
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05:46.24RaydenUnicyclist76 hit if you have 5/5 talent, but i have 4/5 talent so i gotta make up 2% which would be about 24 hit correct?
05:46.32RaydenUnicyclistso 76 + 24? 102?
05:46.37RaydenUnicyclisti got 113 now
05:46.39FireAllianceNXreally? I heard many different argument
05:46.41Kalman|Assuming you use SWD and MB on the cooldown, you need about 6-7 crit rating to be worth as much as 1 +dmg.
05:47.00FireAllianceNXso +hit, +dmg, Intel?
05:47.12Kalman|+Dmg.
05:47.14RaydenUnicyclistaccording to this spriest spreadsheet i have +hit gives 0.55 dps up until hit, +spell gives 0.44 or something, and +crit gives 0.05 dps
05:47.38Kalman|The equivalence changes as your hit/crit/dmg numbers do, but yeah, that's close enough to be believable.
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05:48.06RaydenUnicyclistand if i get the spellstrike pants those are more +hit
05:49.03FireAllianceNXwhy do I keep thinking Spellstrike is +crit?
05:49.25Kalman|It has both.
05:49.46xyu`just lacks in stats
05:49.52Kalman|Yep.
05:50.06Kalman|Which, who cares?
05:50.27RaydenUnicyclistbattlecast is more stats
05:50.37RaydenUnicyclistno +hit, not +crit, and useless pve bonus
05:50.51xyu`i just won both battlecast patterns today, speaking of which :)
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05:51.32xyu`just for novelty really, i'm not sure who'd want to make them
05:51.33RaydenUnicyclistwow
05:51.36RaydenUnicyclistboth in one day?
05:51.38RaydenUnicyclistpvp
05:51.45Kalman|PvPers will get arena stuff.
05:52.21ckknightKemayo, fu:SetFuBarOption('iconPath', [[Interface\Icons\INV_Misc_Shovel_01]])
05:53.03starlonAnyone know if PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED is fired when  you die?
05:53.23Xinhuanstarlon: test it
05:53.26starlonlol
05:53.49Speeddymon_anyone know a way for one addon to detect if another is in standby?
05:54.09RaydenUnicyclistinteresting
05:54.16RaydenUnicyclist+8dmg gems can be bought at thrallmart
05:54.29Speeddymon_ckknight?
05:54.32xyu`k-mart?
05:54.44Kalman|Can only have one in your equipped gear at a time, though.
05:54.52RaydenUnicyclistoh
05:55.01RaydenUnicyclistfor each gear? or all gear?
05:55.05RaydenUnicyclistor i can buy +9 for 43g
05:56.49RaydenUnicyclisti just spent 800 on this stupid hat
05:56.56RaydenUnicyclistthe least i can do is spend 120g to buy gems for it
05:57.05Kalman|Make friends with +9s.
05:57.09Kalman|You're going to be using a lot of them.
05:57.17ckknightSpeeddymon_, yes?
05:57.41Speeddymon_ckknight: what can I use to let one addon tell if another is in standby?
05:57.56Speeddymon_ive been trying to find documentation on it all night and cant find any
05:57.58ckknightOtherAddon:IsActive()
05:58.05Speeddymon_thank you
05:58.28Speeddymon_is that ace or blizzard?
05:59.20Speeddymon_nm answered my own question with wiki search
06:00.04Speeddymon_ckknight: will that return false if the addon isnt installed, or if it is disabled thru the addons screen on the character screen?
06:00.21Speeddymon_or only if it is in standby?
06:01.39CIA-703nargiddley 07Alpha * r53358 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
06:01.39CIA-7Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Select Group works
06:01.39CIA-7<PROTECTED>
06:02.28ArrowmasterSpeeddymon_: youll produce a big fat error box (if its not diabled in interface options) if you try to use that on an addon thats not installed or is disabled thru the addons screen
06:03.14Speeddymon_yeh i just saw that heh i was about to say nm
06:03.16Speeddymon_thx
06:03.21Speeddymon_cause its nil
06:03.43ArrowmasterSpeeddymon_: so youll want to do something like check if OtherAddon exists before calling OtherAddon:IsActive()
06:04.13Speeddymon_ok thx
06:04.15Kemayockknight: When I did that nothing appears on FuBar at all.
06:04.51RaydenUnicyclistso now i gotta figure out belt, gloves, bracers, back, and neck
06:04.54Arrowmasteryou might even want to do if type(OtherAddon.IsActive) == "func" then ... = OtherAddon:IsActive() end
06:05.44ckknightSpeeddymon_, just do OtherAddon and OtherAddon:IsActive()
06:05.51Speeddymon_yea thats what i had planned
06:11.16CIA-703nargiddley 07Alpha * r53359 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: Fix DropdownGroup not saving status properly
06:11.36RaydenUnicyclistlol
06:11.39RaydenUnicyclistnow i have way too much +hit
06:11.50RaydenUnicyclistadded the glyph of power from shatari revered
06:11.57RaydenUnicyclist+14 spell hit
06:12.54CIA-703speeddymon * r53360 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
06:12.54CIA-7AckisRecipeList:
06:12.54CIA-7- Fix typo
06:14.25kenlyrichmmmm.
06:14.33kenlyricif you have too much hit, why would you add hit?
06:14.56RaydenUnicyclistalso has +22 spell power
06:15.12RaydenUnicyclistand gives me more freedom with hit elsewhere
06:15.25RaydenUnicyclisti can swap out trinkets without worrying about it, or respec to use 3/5 talent
06:15.30Arrowmasterand its stupid not to have a glyph of power as a caster
06:21.40kenlyricArrowmaster: isn't it stupid when you have too much hit?
06:22.08Arrowmasternot a shadow priest
06:22.12Arrowmasterim still not hit caped
06:22.44kenlyricyes
06:22.52kenlyricbut our discussion is about hit cap.
06:22.58kenlyric"too much hit" implies above the cap.
06:23.26Arrowmaster202 is technically "too much hit" while 201 is "not enough"
06:24.32Arrowmasterand the glyph of power is the caster helm enchant, theres no other dps caster helm enchants worth it to use for raid dps
06:25.01NightHawkTheSanethere's no other dps caster helm enchants worth it to use*
06:25.53Kalman|Or not use +hit gems.
06:25.57kenlyricor, as he said, spec down some talents
06:26.04RaydenUnicyclistbut the glyph gives +22 spell dmg
06:26.13RaydenUnicyclistis there something else to put there that is better?
06:26.14kenlyricthere's no better enchant than 14 hit?
06:26.20NightHawkTheSanepoint being, it's  never dumb to have the helm enchant.
06:26.20Kalman|There's no better head enchant.
06:26.25kenlyricisn't there a spell damage enchant?
06:26.28RaydenUnicyclist14 hit AND 22 spell dmg
06:26.38kenlyricah.
06:26.41NightHawkTheSanethere is only ONE helm enchant for dps caster
06:26.55RaydenUnicyclisthttp://wowhead.com/?item=29191
06:26.56NightHawkTheSaneand only one for melee, one for tanking, one for healing, and one to laugh at the idiots who use it
06:26.57Arrowmasterunless you want to get the ZG enchants
06:27.10Kalman|Even then.
06:27.12Arrowmasteri still have an 18 +dmg and 10 +stm one in my bank
06:27.23Kalman|Believe he's an spriest, so, not an option anyway.
06:27.25Arrowmasterbut thats not useful for raid dps
06:27.25Xinhuannot everyone is a warlock
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06:30.52XelopherisI would've preferedthe mage chant on my warlock back in the day >.>
06:30.57Xelopherisall the good warlock gear had NO +hit
06:31.56Arrowmasteroh yeah at lvl 60 i had maybe 6% hit max
06:32.26Arrowmastersince everything had 1% except for the tear which had 2%
06:32.29XelopherisI had 12% hit
06:33.40CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53361 10PeriodicTable-3.1/ (25 files in 11 dirs):
06:33.40CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.1:
06:33.40CIA-7- Gettin' my find/replace on.
06:34.39RaydenUnicyclisthttp://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Raydenuni <-- don't be too jealous of my spellstrike hoodie
06:34.41Xelopherisk, was only 10% hit. Still, that's what kept me between the rogues and mages on dPS :)
06:35.01RaydenUnicyclistand my 700 exacts shadow dmg :)
06:36.21Xelopherisman, midnight release of guitar hero 3 made my fingers hurt too much
06:36.46RaydenUnicyclistlol
06:37.00XelopherisI can get 5 stars on fucking jordan expert gh2, but can't even finish through the fire and flames
06:37.15RaydenUnicyclistnice
06:37.17Xelopherisalthough a bit of it is memorization I guess
06:43.09CIA-703hegarol * r53362 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 6 dirs):
06:43.09CIA-7AtlasLoot:
06:43.09CIA-7- German format change to UTF-8
06:49.14CIA-703ominous * r53363 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer
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06:56.40CIA-703speeddymon * r53364 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
06:56.40CIA-7AckisRecipeList:
06:56.40CIA-7- Fixed scan button showing in Skillet (again)
06:56.40CIA-7- Fixed scan button showing on default tradeskill window when skillet installed but in standby
06:56.40CIA-7- Fixed resulting scan button bugs from fixing the scan button when switching between standby and not standby.
06:58.06CIA-703nargiddley 07Alpha * r53365 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Ace3 - AceConfigDalog: Clean up Dropdown set/get behaviour
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07:02.27CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53366 10PeriodicTable-3.1/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
07:02.27CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.1:
07:02.27CIA-7- Mopping up.
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07:10.35CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53367 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1-Data/ (9 files in 9 dirs):
07:10.35CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.1:
07:10.35CIA-7- I'd say sweeping up, but that wouldn't make much sense after mopping, and saying "Changing the data modules to use LibStub like they should" is just damn boring.
07:22.49Neeblerhttp://gawker.com/news/acting%21/did-alec-baldwin-just-finally-win-an-emmy-315536.php?autoplay=true
07:22.51Neeblerhaw
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07:28.23Xuerianhaste: Roll frames look good.
07:29.09nymbiaXuerian: YOU look good!
07:29.27nymbiaerrr
07:29.30nymbiawhat up
07:29.41NightHawkTheSaneyour mom looks good
07:31.34Xuerian(Ponder THAT o.o)
07:31.41nymbiahot.
07:33.17CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53368 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1-Data/ (9 files in 9 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.1: dataminer, let's see what that did...
07:33.33XuerianAlso, hai nymbia :p
07:33.46nymbiayo
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07:44.01CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53369 10PeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
07:44.01CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.1:
07:44.01CIA-7- Mangle some stuff.
07:44.38evlHow do I detect when a buff is refreshed?
07:44.47evlI can't get anytjign from UNIT_AURA or spellcast events
07:45.08nymbiaon the player?
07:45.18[Ammo]you'd have to check the timeLeft etc
07:45.25evlyes
07:45.33evlself:RegisterParserEvent({eventType = "Cast", recipientID = "player", abilityName_in = playerBuffs}, "OnPlayerRefreshBuff")
07:45.38evlI tried that but it doens't trigger.
07:45.57[Ammo]correct, no combat event
07:46.09[Ammo]since you already have the bfuf no combat event is fired
07:47.07evlso I have to keep a registry of monitored buffs and poll their time every sec?
07:47.49[Ammo]well, you could check UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT and SUCCESS
07:47.55[Ammo]and work from there
07:48.13nymbiathose'll miss some though
07:48.13evlisn't that what Cast does in parseer?
07:48.21[Ammo]no
07:48.30[Ammo]Cast = You begin casting ...
07:48.33[Ammo]You cast ...
07:48.33nymbiai guess only ones from people not in your party and not targeted, but it's still a chance
07:48.43evlbasically I want to catch when a slie and dice gets refreshed
07:49.11[Ammo]he's interested in player only
07:49.19nymbiaah
07:49.21evlatleast for buffs
07:50.04[Ammo]rogues don't care for others!
07:50.08[Ammo]selfish bastards
07:50.08aestilperiodic table 3.1?
07:50.10aestilwhats that?
07:50.21[Ammo]the next incarnation of PT3
07:50.23evlelementary mr aestil ;)
07:50.29aestilorly.
07:50.35aestilBC with PT3?
07:50.37ArrowmasterPT3 without acelibrary
07:50.38aestilis that even possible?
07:50.53nymbiawith libstub action and some simplification action
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07:51.22aestilstill full of compressed goodness?
07:51.34nymbianot at the moment, no
07:51.40aestilbah.  not in trunk then?
07:52.02nymbiabranches at the moment, havent even tried to run it yet
07:54.10aestilnymbia, which is there no swing timer for DW?
07:54.37nymbiabecause I can't get it to work right
07:55.03nymbiai had about three different incarnations that were all inaccurate
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08:02.40CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53370 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1-Data/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
08:02.40CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.1:
08:02.40CIA-7- spread the love, and the data.
08:04.11aestilpastamancer, ping
08:06.32Arrowmasterthis is going to be interesting, im going to try compiling the c++ program used by shadowpriest.com to calculate dps
08:07.12aestilanyone know if grid fires an event when it resizes?
08:07.35aestili'm trying to figure out why my eepanels2 script would be overridden randomly, and the panels resize to 100% of the gridLayoutFrame.
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08:10.56CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53371 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1.lua:
08:10.56CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.1:
08:10.56CIA-7- Logic is for pansies.
08:11.06aestilso true nymbia, so true.
08:11.13nymbia;)
08:11.44aestilthere was alot of QQ in my guild when i had a warrior finally respec fury from PvE MS.  no swing timer anymore.
08:12.00aestilhttp://img81.imageshack.us/img81/825/wowscrnshot102707224512zw1.jpg
08:12.15aestillook what blizzard does to people.
08:12.45aestila person who plays the game looking like that is insane.
08:13.10nymbialol
08:13.27nymbianight guys
08:14.27Diaolol
08:14.36Diaowhy do you need a swing timer for dw exactly
08:14.45aestilmostly for PvP.
08:14.46aestilSlam
08:14.47Diaoisn't it mainly used for slam rotation
08:14.53Diaoyou slam with dw?
08:14.59aestilI don't
08:15.02aestili'm a SP
08:15.03Diaowho slams with dw?
08:15.05Diaothat's terrible
08:15.12aestili guess you don't DW Slam cause it resets your swing timer.
08:15.18Diaoexactly
08:15.18aestilfor both weapons?
08:15.20aestilyeah.
08:15.20Diaoyep
08:15.45aestilbut, in fast moving situations, i was told that sometimes you might want to slam if you can for burst.
08:15.50Diaouhhhhh
08:15.52Diaonot with dw
08:16.02xyu`I'm pretty interested in speed runs.  Wish more people filmed them for WoW.  ^^
08:16.02Diaoyou're better off queueing HS with a BT
08:16.13aestiltechincally, the slam would hit before your next swing
08:16.27Diaofirst of all, getting imp slam in a fury build is a waste of points
08:16.36xyu`Curious what kind of times people are getting for full kara speed runs
08:16.42Diaoso 1.5s cast is terrible
08:16.48aestilgood point diao.  ty.
08:16.51CIA-703evl * r53372 10SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers.lua:
08:16.51CIA-7SorrenTimers:
08:16.51CIA-7- Fixed an issue where buffs like Slice and Dice that have variable durations would only have their time left updated but not duration.
08:16.53evlRogues rejoice!
08:16.56Diaoi'd guess around 2 hours?
08:17.30aestilmeanwhile, why doesn't anyone know what event Grid fires when the GridLayoutFrame changes.
08:17.31xyu`i've seen all of MC done in like 1h56 i think it was.   maybe less i forget.  (@60)
08:17.31Diaomy guild does it around 3-4 hours without chain pulling nonstop
08:17.37Diaoso i'm sure kara can be done in 2 or less
08:18.11aestilcleared moroes, opera, -> prince / nightbane / netherspite in 3 hours.
08:18.36xyu`hmm that's not bad
08:18.46Diaoour best time is 3.5 hours i thin
08:18.48Diaothink*
08:18.48xyu`but i bet you guys weren't even trying
08:18.53aestilno.
08:18.54Diaowith 1 wipe
08:18.57xyu`I'm curious what people could get w/ a timed run in mind
08:19.05Diaoand our gear isn't the greatest :(
08:19.10aestili suck at rushing.
08:19.19xyu`like i bet attumen trash could be done in about 3 pulls
08:19.25xyu`nah
08:19.26aestilwe out gear kara though, buy a wide enough margin that its noticeable how easy it is now.
08:19.27xyu`maybe 4
08:19.32aestilonly fight i hate is prince due to the randomness.
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08:20.14xyu`shadowlabs time run would be a good one to see too.  some interesting pulls there.
08:20.22Diaoheroic or nonheroic?
08:20.25xyu`I've pulled the entire shadowpriest room before boss 2
08:20.29xyu`18 mobs total
08:20.32xyu`and won
08:20.34Diaononheroic is too easy
08:20.35xyu`normal
08:20.44Diaoespecially if you have a pally tank
08:20.50xyu`yeah but time is of the essence, not saying it's difficult :P
08:20.55xyu`yeah,
08:21.12Diaothink my best time in sl is 45 min
08:21.14Diaobut i'm a warrior
08:21.14PkekyoI -LOVE- pally tanks, they are full of win and awesome!
08:21.22xyu`for 5 mans
08:21.22Pkekyoexcept when they roll on my plate :< :p
08:21.26Diaolol
08:21.39Diaoi have to say though
08:21.46Diaoheroic shattered halls is interesting with no cc and tanking it as a warrior
08:21.52Diaothat 9 pull at the end of the first hallway..
08:21.59aestilpally tanks are still probably not viable for end game bosses, even with this new buff.
08:22.13Diaowell
08:22.14Fisker-heroic is too easy
08:22.16Diaoillidan's been done with a paly
08:22.17aestilthey are for gimmick fights like morrogrim, solarian, pretty usefull on P2 KT.
08:22.20Diaoso..
08:22.25xyu`How can there ever be "no CC" though really
08:22.36aestilbeen done and 'best' overall, i think is pretty wide.
08:22.40Diaowell i suppose you're right
08:22.43Diaoyou said viable though
08:22.44Fisker-in shadow lab, besides for the bosses the instance seems easier
08:22.45Diaonot best ;)
08:22.47aestilwarriors get sta, and then as much watever else they can.
08:22.47Neeblerthe only class that doesn't have CC is the shaman
08:22.56Diaowell
08:22.57Diaowe couldn't fear
08:23.00Diaobecause we'd agro more mobs
08:23.01Diao:P
08:23.03PkekyoNeebler: warrior got CC?
08:23.05xyu`you can
08:23.06Diaoso i ended up just tanking all 9
08:23.06aestilpaladins need a mixture of sta/int/+dmg and whatever else they can get.
08:23.07Fisker-OMG FROSTSHOCK
08:23.09xyu`you pull back into the hallway
08:23.16Neeblerwarriors have fear
08:23.21Diaoi was busy trying to stay alive :(
08:23.31xyu`i know, i'm just saying. people often neglect fear as a CC
08:23.44Cartaslol
08:23.46PkekyoNeebler: if you rely on that as CC, you've set sail 4 fail allready....
08:23.47Fisker-not much control in it :)
08:23.49CartasConcussion Blow, Pkekyo.
08:23.52xyu`i did SH w/ 2 priests, a pally healer and a lock w/ imp
08:23.53CartasOBVIOUSLY we have CC.
08:24.06xyu`warrior tank
08:24.23PkekyoCartas: for those fortunate enough to talent it....sure, we can halt a mob for a couple of second....still not reliable cc
08:24.39CartasYou didn't say reliable CC.
08:24.42CartasYou just said CC.
08:24.44Cartas:o
08:24.50Pkekyo.....
08:25.00Fisker-i'm gonna your mother you to death
08:25.05Cartas:o
08:25.08Diaolol
08:25.14Fisker-aint pretty and so forth
08:25.32xyu`I think kara is a good instance for a speed run though
08:25.45Fisker-YOUR MOTHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
08:26.08Fisker-I might run KZ again with the badges
08:26.17Fisker-gonna be a lot of badges
08:26.26xyu`imo the key to speed runs is all about not standing around after a boss dies.  put it on group loot
08:26.29Fisker-should've added it to 25-man bosses as well :D
08:26.33xyu`and roll while running to the next pull
08:26.37Pkekyoif only kara bosses would drop nethers as well x)
08:26.45Diaolol
08:26.48xyu`well in a way they do :D
08:26.51xyu`10 badges is it?
08:26.53Diaomore
08:26.55Diaoattumen drops 1
08:26.58Diaoprince drops 3
08:27.01Diaoso somewhere in between drops 2
08:27.09CIA-703rabbit * r53373 10ClosetGnome_Banker/Banker.lua: ClosetGnome_Banker: Small bugfix.
08:27.10CartasI bet you get 0 for chess :(
08:27.13Fisker-i believe the ones who drop 1 also have a chance of dropping 2
08:27.13Diaolol
08:27.24PkekyoCartas: chess has been confirmed to dorp 3
08:27.28Fisker-lol
08:27.28Cartas:o
08:27.31CartasThat's a bit too much, haha.
08:27.32Pkekyos/dorp/drop/
08:27.32Fisker-"What a heroic effort"
08:27.35Fisker-"Take some badges"
08:27.36Diao3 for chess.. o_o
08:27.52CartasIsn't it a lot simpler to correct yourself using 'drop*'? :p
08:28.01CartasOr is there some reason most people here use the bot-method of correction?
08:28.06xyu`has anyone ever gone back up there and played a game of chess?  do you get to control the entire board?
08:28.08xyu`or just one piece?
08:28.12Pkekyos/Cartas: chess has been confirmed to drop 3/Cartas: chess has been confirmed to drop 3 <---- this is obviously pure bullshit
08:28.15XuerianSimpler? yes. Ritualistically correct? no.
08:28.16Diaoit's 1 piece at a time
08:28.22Cartaslol, Pkekyo, I know.
08:28.32Fisker-no it's not Pkekyo
08:28.34CartasI was just wondering about the correction part!
08:28.37Fisker-Chess is really really hard
08:28.40PkekyoCartas: sure, it's easier...but it's not as much fun!
08:28.41xyu`Diao: and when you play it for real, are the chess rules official?
08:28.45CartasHahaha.
08:28.49Diaonope
08:28.49XuerianChess is Serious Business =O
08:28.51xyu`like the pawns can move forward 2
08:28.52xyu`oh
08:28.52Fisker-Once we were about to wipe!
08:28.53Diaothey're teh same as when you play the pc
08:28.58xyu`ok
08:29.01Diaoi remember because
08:29.05Diaoone time after chess
08:29.08Diaoi called an afk break
08:29.11Diaoand people were bored
08:29.11Fisker-one time in chess camp
08:29.15Diaoso they started playing chess
08:29.19Arrowmasterlol
08:29.20Arrowmasterbad idea
08:29.21Diaoand it was the same except you could control both sides
08:29.26Pkekyooh lawd
08:29.41CartasChess is a great game.
08:30.02xyu`beats the piss out of checkers
08:30.03xyu`for sure
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08:30.22CartasAye, checkers isn't so good.
08:30.30xyu`I had a "Go" phase for a while
08:30.33xyu`but i was quite terrible at it
08:30.46xyu`even bought a board and stones
08:30.48Arrowmasterblizzard should add a soduku game to a future instance, let people try to figure that one out
08:31.13XuerianSodomy meets sudoku?... ¬.¬
08:31.46Arrowmasterthat or minesweaper
08:31.48XuerianOr is that the proper spelling... <_<
08:31.49Diaolol
08:31.59Arrowmasterwe need a minesweaper boss event
08:32.00Diaoyeah sudoku is correct
08:32.04CartasConnect-4.
08:34.11Xueriano.0
08:34.16Pkekyo>> Arrowmaster: blizzard should add a soduku game to a future instance, let people try to figure that one out <---  DON'T GIVE THEM ANY FUCKING IDEAS
08:34.34XuerianHahah
08:35.30Fisker-ownt
08:35.44Arrowmastera sudoku would be fucking awesome as a boss event
08:36.06Arrowmaster10-25 people arguing over what should go into each square
08:36.13Fisker-GET AWAY FROM ME
08:36.24aestili'd probably just yell VAGINA in vent during the whole event.
08:36.26Fisker-Why mr. Arrowmaster, why do you do it?
08:36.29PkekyoArrowmaster: fuck no it wouldn't Arrowmaster, shut up, blizz devs might be in here fucksake!
08:36.41Pkekyoaestil: whyyyy?
08:37.03aestilbecause, pretty much everyone unversally agrees that vagina = win.
08:37.45Pkekyovalid point, carry on!
08:37.48Fisker-whats an unverse?
08:38.06XuerianUniverse*-1
08:38.14sedatedChipmunkit's where an heros come from
08:38.21sedatedChipmunks/heros/heroes/
08:38.39Fisker-is unverse even a word?
08:38.48aestilFisker-: i llik you now.  VAGINA
08:40.40aestilFisker-: unverse is where i go to die.
08:40.46aestilwith a vagina.  not a bad way to go actually.
08:41.46Pkekyorofl
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08:43.16aestilmy vagina is currenlty sleeping.  i will stay here a bit longer.
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08:43.48aestili wish i could get my memory down to around 20mb in game.  i just can't cut out my 'fun useful' mods that make playing worthwhile.
08:43.48Pkekyowait a second...you male or female?
08:43.55aestilmale.
08:44.09Pkekyohad me puzzled there for a second
08:44.26Xuerianaestil: Is having it over 20mb negatively affecting your game's performance, or is it simply a race for numbers anymore?
08:44.34aestilneither really.
08:44.58aestiljust a throwback to a time when keeping a check on memory usage was important.
08:45.03aestilhabit more than anything.
08:45.06XuerianIndeed
08:45.09Diaoyea i use like 65mb on initial load lol
08:45.17aestildiao... boggle
08:45.24XuerianI had 80
08:45.25aestiltake a knife and start cutting?
08:45.29Diaoi had over 100 before
08:45.32Diaoi cut down quite a bit :P
08:45.35aestilare you guys using DUF and Dart?
08:45.39Diaonope
08:45.40Diaopitbull
08:45.56XuerianUsed to use lots of database mods.. loong time back.
08:45.58Pkekyosomeone help me find the s3 warrior set on mmo-champion? I must've gone blind or something, can't find it
08:45.59Xuerianaround 23 right now
08:46.04Pkekyoaestil: NEVARR
08:46.06aestilI have herb
08:46.17aestiland sanity
08:46.23aestili think thats it.
08:46.34aestilPT3 is in there, but it doesn't count
08:46.36Diaohttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/august/arena3/warrior.jpg
08:46.48Diaoor are you talking about the actual set itself
08:47.01Xuerianthat looks pretty good. i still want the HH's helm.
08:47.35Diaohttp://www.clockwork-guild.net/Addons.txt
08:47.39Diaolist of my addons :P
08:48.07aestili can't use recount, have to use sws for guild.
08:48.07PkekyoDiao: looking for the one with both tooltips and looks
08:48.26Diaotooltips i don't konw, just look on wowhead ;(
08:48.27aestili don't use aloft
08:48.35aestili don't use atlas loot [why bother really?]
08:48.45aestilonly load auctioner once in a blue moon.
08:48.49XuerianFun things to look at while waiting on pulls.
08:48.49Pkekyoaloft is full of win and awesome
08:48.53XuerianAnd ^
08:49.02Fisker-DYE aestil DYE DYE
08:49.08aestili don't like people enough for ALS, don't know what autobar does.
08:49.15Diaoautobar is for items
08:49.17Xueriano_0
08:49.19Diaolike pots and stuff
08:49.20aestildon't know what bedazzler is.
08:49.22Diaoautomatically sorts it
08:49.29Fisker-WHY WONT YOU DYE aestil?
08:49.30PkekyoDiao: saw the screenie on mmo-champion yesterday, just can't find it now >.<
08:49.33XuerianI don't know what it is, either.. what the crap is it?
08:49.35Diaoah
08:49.38aestilI use EBB instead of buffalo.
08:49.48aestili use postal instead of bulkmail.
08:49.53aestildon't pvp, no capping
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08:50.00aestilFisker-: working on it.
08:50.03Diaobedazzler lets you add gems to item links
08:50.10aestilcecb?
08:50.11Diaolike glowfosho lets you add enchants to stuff
08:50.16Diaothat's necb
08:50.23aestiluse quartz only.
08:50.29aestilI use quartz only.
08:50.41Diaoi use it to track shackles/banishes/traps/etc for my group
08:50.43Diaowhen we're raiding
08:50.54aestileasyunlock/crowbar = same thing?
08:51.01Diaonot exactly
08:51.11aestilEnhanuced color picker isn't needed anymore with rock conifg.
08:51.22Diaocrowbar pops up a thing in the middle of your screen when you have something that can be opened that you click to open
08:51.23XuerianI dun like rock
08:51.30Diaoeasyunlock autopicks stuff in trade windows
08:51.38aestilfelwood farmer? why, cartographer icon packs does it for you right?
08:51.43Diaouh
08:51.48Diaofelwood one has it all marked with timers
08:51.54Diaoso i know exactly when they'll respawn :P
08:51.59aestilok.
08:52.03aestilXuerian: sorry.
08:52.09aestilfizzle?
08:52.09Arrowmasterpeople still pick that shit in felwood?
08:52.12Xuerianaestil: Damn well better be! =O
08:52.17Diaoi do occasionally when bored
08:52.25aestilgrid... too many grid modlues.
08:52.32Xuerianaestil: Colors item squares wherever they are to be found
08:52.45Diaoi use different modules when i'm on different chars
08:52.47XuerianAlso adds durability display to charframe
08:52.48aestilcolors item squares what?
08:53.03XuerianQuality-colors items in charframe/inspect/bags
08:53.11Diaoyeah fizzle colors the borders
08:53.13Diaoof stuff
08:53.19Diaoand adds durability numbers on your equip
08:53.24Diaoso you can see what % you're at
08:53.28aestildiao, you have avion lib, but not avion
08:53.39Diaoyeah i forgot to delete it
08:53.41Diaowhen i removed avion
08:53.46aestili've never understood the point of ludwig
08:53.47Diaonot like it loads anyway
08:53.54Diaoit's just like lootlink
08:53.58aestili love avion.  i am waiting for it to work
08:54.00aestilno its not
08:54.04aestillootlink is a db of items
08:54.13aestilludwig doesn't work like that.
08:54.14Diaoludwig is the same, except it uses your local cache only
08:54.17Xuerianaestil is nitpicking.
08:54.20Diaoinstead of storing it in memory
08:54.22Xuerian>.>
08:54.32aestilno, seriously, i've never understood ludwig.
08:54.34Diaoavion i will reinstall when it works
08:54.37Diaoi downloaded it to test
08:54.49aestileverything with avion works, except cooldowns [as far as i could test]
08:55.02aestilomnibus/oGlow
08:55.12Diaoomnibus is for writing notes
08:55.18Diaoi use it to keep track of stuff ingame
08:55.21Diaolike how much gold i've lent out
08:55.22aestilminichat + prat?
08:55.24Diaoor if i owe people things
08:55.30Diaoprat for customizing frames
08:55.43aestilmnichat allows to minimize?
08:55.45Diaominichat minimizes chat when no activity is occurring so it uses less screen real estate
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08:55.57Diaoand maxes on activity/mouseover
08:56.13aestilPT browser?  you looking at it often?
08:56.28Diaonot really, but it uses basically no memory
08:56.40Diaosince it doesn't load anything unless i'm actually browsing through it
08:56.42aestilyeah, i was thinking that would cause 60 mb
08:56.49aestilif you were using it often.
08:57.01aestilsws and recount?
08:57.16aestiland violation?
08:57.17Diaoraid analysis
08:57.33Diaoi use recount for graphs, sws for the log function, violation as the actual meter
08:57.34Kemayoaestil: I hover around 30 on load... http://kemayo.dyndns.org/addons.txt
08:57.37aestilWIM?
08:57.38XuerianBirth Control fo rRaids
08:57.43Diaowow instant messenger
08:57.45Xuerian:Always use more than one method
08:57.52Diaopops up a little window when people whisper me
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08:57.56aestilwws+ sws
08:57.58Diaosuppresses whispers in combat etc
08:58.41aestilkemayo, what is expo?
08:59.12Kemayoaestil: Development addon -- it tracks events and memory usage from function calls.
08:59.14aestili think Parrot > MSBT honestly, parrot caused me to convert from MSBT.
08:59.22aestiloh, thats interesting.
08:59.25Diaothey're about the same now
08:59.31Diaojust parrot requires rock
08:59.36aestili wonder how much memory useage my eePanels2 scripts.
08:59.48Cartas:o
08:59.57aestili use pitbull/cowtip/cartographer anyways.
09:00.00KemayoI was using Parrot for a long time -- I got a couple of notifications for MSBT updates from wowinterface over the last few days and decided to try it out again.
09:00.08KemayoLibs Don't Matter. :P
09:00.21Diaoyeah
09:00.24Diaoi just use what i like
09:00.33aestilmy preference for parrot isn't the mod, or memory, but easy of configuration, which for me, was parrot.
09:01.07aestilI just can't freaking figure out why my eepanles around grid will randomly 'forget' to obey the script, and resize to 100% of the gridLayoutFrame
09:01.15aestilit pisses me off, and no one has any idea why.
09:01.15Pkekyoin patch 2.3.... when you have one s3 item and one s2 item... will you get the 2 item set bonus?
09:01.19Diaoyes you will
09:01.54aestilis yata the best of the totem mods?
09:02.21aestilsinklib and soar -1.0 do basically the same thing?
09:03.31Diaoyes but last time i deleted soar
09:03.36Diaoi got some error
09:03.39Diaobut that was a few months ago
09:03.48Diaohaven't bothered to go clean out my libs yet
09:04.21aestilso, someone tell me why eepanels2 scripts for my grid panels sometimes 'shrink' and get sized to 100% of the GridLayoutFrame.
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09:05.55Pkekyo~seen thraebot
09:05.56purlthraebot <n=ThraeBot@pool-72-81-238-113.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 4d 1h 16m 44s ago, saying: 'Miyari: Miyari, Level 70 Tauren Druid (7/0/54). 8782 HP; 9290 Mana; 196 mana regen; 35 mp5; 87.700 Melee DPS; 4.12% melee crit; 166 spell crit; 102 spell hit; 831 +spell dmg/heal; 3.50% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 ...
09:06.21aestili hate thrae.
09:06.25aestilhe has Fios
09:06.56aestilfisker
09:06.57PkekyoFios?
09:07.03aestilFisker-: :
09:07.14aestilPkekyo: yes, fios.  google it.
09:07.18the-golemhiya Diao
09:07.18aestil~FIOS
09:08.12OrionshockFiber Optic Systems
09:08.14Diaohey
09:08.34aestilsomeone should teach purl what fios is.
09:08.37aestil~fios
09:08.40Diaolol
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09:10.32aestilyes Fisker- i'm going to die now.  i'm not sure what i did to you. but your wishes come true.
09:10.45aestili need to put up a raid shot.
09:10.47Orionshockhow do you teach purl something?
09:10.50aestilmy raid UI fails.
09:10.58aestilprobably need ops.
09:10.59aestili dunno.
09:11.05aestil~kill aestil
09:11.06purlACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxgraviton gun at aestil
09:11.09Diaodon't you just go like "purl, ___ is _____"
09:11.10Diaoor something
09:11.12ShirikOrionshock: "purl, <xxx> is <yyy>"
09:11.18Orionshockic
09:11.35Shirikalternatively, "purl, ___ is <modifier> _____"
09:11.41aestilpurl, Aestil is a jerk.  Everyone hates him.
09:11.42purlaestil: okay
09:11.49aestilg'nite all.
09:11.56Orionshockpurl, FiOS is a fiber to the premises (FTTP) telecommunications service, originally piloted in Keller, Texas, and now offered in many areas of the United States by Verizon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_FiOS
09:11.56purlOrionshock: okay
09:12.00Orionshockthere
09:12.03Diaolol
09:12.07Diao~fios
09:12.08purlfrom memory, fios is a fiber to the premises (FTTP) telecommunications service, originally piloted in Keller, Texas, and now offered in many areas of the United States by Verizon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_FiOS
09:12.10Fisker-dead people don't speak aestil
09:12.12aestilPkekyo: are you there?
09:12.31aestilFisker-: bah.  i said i was GOING to die, not that i was dead already.
09:12.45aestilmy vagina still sleeps though. oh well.
09:12.47Fisker-but i already dyed you
09:12.58aestilFisker-: it didn't take.
09:13.18Fisker-kek
09:14.14Pkekyoaestil: aye?
09:14.23aestil~fios
09:14.24purl[fios] a fiber to the premises (FTTP) telecommunications service, originally piloted in Keller, Texas, and now offered in many areas of the United States by Verizon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_FiOS
09:14.42Pkekyoyeah....I still don't get it...
09:15.00aestilFisker-: D E D
09:17.11Fisker-DONT MAKE ME COME OVER THERE
09:18.03aestilyou're pretty far away i think.
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09:19.07Pkekyoyou better be pretty damn sure when messing with Fisker-
09:19.41Kerafyrm_Fisker- = kek! ;)
09:24.58ZhinjioRe
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09:34.45Pkekyo!rank 1459
09:35.26Pkekyo!rating 1459
09:35.26Xinhuan1459 rating gives 335(5s), 295(3s) and 255(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
09:39.06manythe rogue trainer tells me that in tyrs hand there are lockboxes for my skill. can anyone clue me where they are?
09:39.27Diaoin the buildings i think
09:39.51manyseen none so far. :|
09:42.12Arrowmasteri got yelled at last week when i pickpocketed a strong lockbox on my rogue alt from a mob while doing zg so our warriors could get helm enchants and opened trade with my rogue friend to have him open it
09:42.35XuerianI want fios....
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09:42.57Arrowmasterthen i had to remind him that strong lockboxes require 300 lockpicking and since my rogue alt is only level 58 its impossible for me to open it yet
09:43.12manyhehe
09:44.27Arrowmasterbtw stealthing around zg with lvl 5x stealth skill and no talents in the speed increase while everybody else is riding past everything on epic mounts and not aggroing because theyre level 70 isnt very fun
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09:46.38Pkekyoyou lot know any good ways to remove noise in a photo?
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09:52.30Kemayo...it's very gratifying killing my way through the Onyxia-attunement death-run cave.
09:52.35Orionshockanyone know if GroupCalendar is still maintained?
09:52.59Arrowmasterdeath-run cave?
09:53.43Fisker-OH MY GOD I AM GOING TO CUM
09:54.21PkekyoFisker-: you PMed me last night about cached forums?
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09:55.04Orionshockplz Fisker- not on the screen
09:55.59Fisker-yeah Pkekyo
09:56.02Fisker-got what i need
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09:58.18cncfanaticshello ppl
09:58.29Fisker-the hunt has begun
09:59.29PkekyoFisker-: why on earth did you get the idea to ask me about it? :>
10:00.20Fisker-wasn't it you who told me thar was keyloggars?
10:02.38Pkekyonot really
10:02.52PkekyoI'd never even been at mmo-champion before
10:03.06Fisker-ok :I
10:03.13Fisker-was Punkie`afk that devilish bastard then
10:03.22Orionshockthought LH had the cords for every quest npc in the db?
10:03.40PkekyoFisker-: correctemundo
10:04.41Xuerian... did I miss something
10:04.58Fisker-Xuerian nvidia won the game
10:05.07Xuerianwho where how link
10:05.15Fisker-pretty much pwned the 8800 GTS, GTX and Ultra along with anything ATi got to show
10:05.25Fisker-http://www.expreview.com/img/news/071026/crysisspdg01ma9.gif
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10:05.28Fisker-see the MSI 8800 GT
10:05.37Fisker-That card will launch for like 200$
10:05.42Fisker-half the price of the GTX
10:06.03Xuerianps: DAMN.
10:06.17Fisker-i'm also laughing
10:06.23XuerianATI would pick up the slack at higher resolutions, though
10:06.26Fisker-because someone didn't want to take my advice with graphics card
10:06.33Fisker-He wanted to run crysis great
10:06.37Fisker-He wanted a 8800 GTX
10:06.56Fisker-i told him to wait until tomorrow or close within the launch of Crysis since nvidia would come with a new card
10:07.05Xuerianlol.
10:07.20Fisker-"But you'll always be in the position where you wait a few months and something better comes out"
10:07.28Fisker-"Yes, but Crysis isn't out yet"
10:07.33Fisker-"But i wanna play the demoooo"
10:07.38Xuerianbahaha
10:07.45Fisker-*cuts wrists and buys a new computer with Geforce 8800 GTX*
10:07.45XuerianHow much did he spend?
10:07.56dreamss400+? :P
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10:08.03Fisker-a lot
10:08.10Xuerianthat's gotta burn
10:08.10Fisker-but hardware is more expensive here
10:08.29dreamsscomputer hardware is a viscious circle
10:08.31Fisker-1700$ for the machine itself
10:08.36Fisker-he's still short on a monitor
10:08.43dreamssLOL
10:08.49XuerianAnnoys me too, though. Just bought a 7800gs for 150
10:08.56Xuerianand wtf
10:08.57Xueriano_0
10:09.04XuerianDid he get two or something?
10:09.12Fisker-no
10:09.17Fisker-as i said, hardware is expensive here
10:09.24Xuerian>_>
10:09.30XuerianWhere is "here"
10:09.40dreamss.dk
10:09.46dreamssdouche kindom?
10:09.51Fisker-denmark!
10:09.59Xuerian:p
10:10.04dreamssdouche kindom sounds better
10:10.05Fisker-a new GTX is 735$
10:10.05dreamss!
10:10.08Fisker-just FYI
10:10.08XuerianWhat cpu did he get?
10:10.11Xueriano_o
10:10.15XuerianImport much?
10:10.16Fisker-a Core 2 Duo 2,4Ghz
10:10.17dreamsslol
10:10.18Fisker-GHz*
10:10.28dreamssdid he sell body parts for it
10:10.33Fisker-and the machine was used as well :D
10:10.38Fisker-we earn a lot of money too
10:10.50XuerianI'd say, you could build a C2Q with dual 8800's in SLI for that much here
10:10.51dreamssso your like the japs?
10:11.31dreamssdropping that much money on 1 game, aint cool
10:11.36dreamssfor 1 game
10:11.43Fisker-it wasn't for one game of course
10:11.55XuerianWell, you've got a wash of other games that just came out with dx10 capability
10:11.59Fisker-but Crysis was the drop that made him want a new computer
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10:12.08XuerianBut then again aren't current DX10 cards going to miss the 10.1 spec?
10:12.15dreamssheh
10:12.29dreamssu shit is outdated the moment it goes retail
10:13.00XuerianAt the very least, by the first price cut it takes
10:13.11Xuerianor, well, at most
10:13.20Xuerian...
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10:13.32Fisker-who cares about that spec?
10:13.38Xuerianknow what, I'm just going to go to bed now. This talk of current generation computers annoys me
10:13.44Fisker-10.1 is pretty useless
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10:13.46NeroxIs their a way to acess a menu for CowTip? I keep getting spammed with about 100 erros in my bugsack
10:13.47dreamssnowdays depending on your gaming habits, your better off with a console
10:13.54Neroxaccess*
10:15.51Chompersnerox /cowtip
10:16.14NeroxTried it, doesn't work.
10:16.33Chompersdownload it again and install it over what you have
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10:16.43Chompersremember to exit wow too
10:18.12Chompershttp://files.wowace.com/
10:18.19Orionshockanyone know off hand what the API is to promote to guild master?
10:19.22Neroxre-installed. WoW was closed, entered the game with about 4 errors from cowtip. Tried /cowtip and /Cowtip. Nothing.
10:19.57OrionshockNerox: throw the first error up on pastey
10:19.59Chomperscan you put the errors into http://ace.pastey.net
10:20.02Chomperssnap
10:20.25Orionshockyour Fu is slow :P
10:20.40siIentiumsounds like missing libs to me
10:22.04Orionshock... im gona kill this rogue in my guild...
10:22.14OzguliGo for it!
10:22.21OzguliThere are way too many of them anyway
10:22.31Orionshockso they are all in there doing Illhoof, so he randomly links the druid staff of ZOMG,
10:22.51Orionshockonly to turn arround and BS me into thinking it droped and got DE'ed
10:23.11Chompersharsh
10:23.27Orionshock<< only Druid in guild and is feral
10:23.34Cartaslol
10:23.37CartasYou're so gullable, old chap.
10:24.09Fisker-Anyone know why all my addon frames are moved a bit to the right or left?
10:26.08nevcairielwith your donated /me you can!
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10:40.19Fisker-Anyone know if there's a closetgnome mod for leotheras
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10:41.16Orionshock...... leotheras ... closetgnome... in combat... im not understanding this?
10:41.37nevcairielit could swap your weapon when you get the demon
10:42.24Kemayovhaarr: Nice changes to DurabilityFu
10:42.45vhaarrKemayo: thanks
10:43.07Orionshock... but but but... i like the faction check... :\
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10:43.34vhaarrKemayo: tbh the popup code should just be removed completely
10:43.38vhaarrKemayo: thoughts?
10:43.41Orionshockyes
10:44.02Kemayovhaarr: I've had it disabled ever since the first time I used it.  So I'd say I agree.
10:44.10vhaarrI'll remove it now
10:44.48siIentiumtbh I prefer to see the repair price at a repair vendor before I actually pay it
10:44.58ramozwait wait
10:44.59Orionshockturn off auto repair
10:45.01ramozdont remove it?
10:45.14Fisker-awsum nevcairiel
10:45.15ramozi like to see how much i repair for
10:45.15Fisker-how?
10:45.25siIentiumI dont use auto repair, but it just sounded as if auto repair became the only choice
10:45.43KemayoYeah, if you want to see the repair cost then you might as well just turn off auto-repair and use the repair all button.
10:45.51Orionshocktbh one should at least ask the author of said addon before one makes changes of this sort...?
10:46.39Orionshockbut who am i to get in the way of progress
10:47.03KemayoIt's one of ckknight's -- he doesn't really mind people tweaking his *Fu addons, from all I've seen.
10:47.19siIentiumI like the popup window at the repair vendor with auto repair being turned off, so please dont remove it
10:48.10Orionshockremoving and rearranging functionality is not something i'd consider a tweak....
10:48.17vhaarrjust mouse over the repair button that the vendor
10:48.37vhaarrthis code is not justified, it doesn't provide any functionality and it's huge
10:48.39vhaarrso I'm removing it
10:48.56siIentiumthe popup still allows me to repair equipment in my bags, the "repair all" button from the vendor window doesnt do tha
10:49.02siIentiums/tha/that
10:49.08Arrowmasterdoes too
10:49.11Orionshockgood move
10:49.34vhaarrsiIentium: sure it does
10:50.12Arrowmasteri think thats the first update durabilityfu has gotten since before tbc
10:50.22nevcairielsee, i use DuraTek because DurabilityFu is like huge =P
10:50.26Arrowmasterits not even updated for the repair cost changes that went in a long long time ago
10:50.36siIentiumhm, cant test it atm, but the last time I tried that button (admittedly it's been quite a while) it didnt, that was one of the reasons why I got DurabilityFu in the first place
10:51.15Orionshockchanges in the repair window like 3? patches ago
10:51.59Arrowmasterim perty sure it was back in 1.x but it might have been the first 2.x patch that did it but they changed it so the repairall button repairs gear in your bags too and also made it so that your only charged for the most expensive item for each slot i think
10:52.32Arrowmasteri dont know of any mods that take that into account though
10:52.45Arrowmasterand i have no clue how to handle weapons with it
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10:52.55Arrowmastereverything else is easy
10:52.55Orionshockand in fact durability fu is going to get alot simpler now with the upcoming patch
10:53.07dreamsshow so orion?
10:53.17siIentiumso if you have a weapon/armor at 50% and one at 80%, the 80% one is repaired for free? never heard of such a thing tbh
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10:53.30Arrowmasteri tested it a long time ago
10:53.40Orionshockif i saw correctly they are adding something to the effect of "GetDurabilityLvl('slot") "
10:53.41Arrowmasteri had some almost broken epic armor
10:53.59Arrowmasterchecked the repair cost then equiped other armor and the repair cost didnt change
10:54.35Arrowmasteri also noticed in 2.x that a spirit res and repair was a hell of a lot cheaper with by bag full of like 3 sets of armor than before
10:55.26Arrowmasterbasicly its whatever costs the most to repair per slot
10:55.34KemayoHuh, I didn't remember that.
10:55.46Arrowmasterbut since im a caster and cant dual wield i cant test weapons at all
10:55.49KemayoWow -- vhaar's right -- that popup code is half the addon.
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10:56.38Arrowmasterim like 99% sure you only pay to repair the most expensive item per slot
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10:56.51nevcairieli should try that
10:57.00nevcairielwhen my epix and my shadow resist are both half-broken
10:57.23Arrowmastercould test it if you have like 2 helms and enough free space to take off the rest of your gear
10:57.34Arrowmasterdie a few times wearing each helm
10:57.50Arrowmastercheck the manual repair cost for each one
10:57.55Arrowmasterthen check the repair all cost
10:57.58Mortzhi@ll
10:58.17vhaarrKemayo: noticed you made some BankStack addon thingy, perhaps you'd like to take a look at the FreeRefills addon and fix it up a bit
10:58.30vhaarrKemayo: I use it now but it's a bit confusing + it doesn't work very well
10:58.37vhaarrits bank features
10:59.02Kemayovhaarr: NightHawkTheSane asked me that earlier, too.  There's demand, apparently.
10:59.16Orionshocktoo much automagic is stupid imho
10:59.18vhaarrindeed
10:59.21vhaarrOrionshock: never
10:59.26Arrowmasterheh i still use freerefills too
10:59.31Fisker-nevcairiel HLAP
10:59.34Arrowmasterdont use the bank feature though
10:59.36Orionshockwell FR is ok,
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10:59.40OrionshockDuraFu is ok
10:59.45OrionshockAutomation atm is ok
11:00.03Orionshockbut things like bagginins and arkinventory... that is asinine
11:00.14Diaowhat do they do O:
11:00.30Orionshockplz, if you can't sort things in your own head enough to maintain sanity those mods won't help any
11:00.43Diaoi thought they were just 1bag type mods
11:00.47Orionshockthe Uber bag mods that let you do all sorts of crazy shit with your stuff
11:00.47Diaowith like borders and stuff
11:00.48Arrowmasternope
11:01.03KemayoCategories.  They're nifty.
11:01.08Diaooh filtering
11:01.14Diaosanitybags does that too doesn't it
11:01.39Arrowmasteri think i have sanity2 installed
11:01.56Diaoseems like it's just for lazy people
11:01.58Arrowmasterfor the tooltips when the bagnon tooltips stoped working for a long time
11:01.58OrionshockIMHO, if you can't hack it with OneBag n' suite or the old fasion AIOI, then nothing is going to help you
11:02.03Diaowho can't be bothered to manually organize stuff
11:02.47Arrowmasteri wouldnt be able to stand auto sorting since im a manual organizer
11:02.52Diaosame
11:02.55Diaoi organize stuff by bags
11:03.13Arrowmasteri know which slot everything in by bags should be in
11:03.15KemayoMy favorite thing about Baggins is Baggins_Search.
11:03.49KemayoDiao: Ah, here's an actual decent picture of Baggins for your edification -- http://wowace.com/wiki/Baggins_Search
11:04.07Diaoi can see how a search function would be useful
11:04.08Orionshocknow on the other hand - Skillet is nice, it gets the reagents from the open vendor window for you and in the right ammounts.
11:04.14Mortzcan anyone tell me a simple scanning addon, that saves the general info of all auctions? or a way to write it?
11:04.24Diaosometimes i get an item from a quest or something
11:04.28Diaoand can't find it cause i don't recognize the icon
11:04.42Orionshockmortz try Auctioneer 4.0
11:04.53Diaoaucadv?
11:05.08Orionshockit's simpler than 5, and has less fluff that .... many ppl will never use
11:05.13Mortzso were are these infos in auctioneer? i can't find them
11:05.25Orionshockgoogle
11:05.41Orionshockthat's how i get my updates
11:05.52Diaoauctioneer 5 uses less mem by a lot
11:05.54Orionshockgoogle it and it's usually the first result.
11:06.01Diaoand it's pretty basic if you don't get the full package
11:07.19Mortzhm...
11:07.38Fisker-vhaarr nevcairiel is being mean :(
11:07.39Kemayovhaarr: What does FreeRefills do flakily?  (I've never used it -- just looking at its bank stuff now.)
11:08.38Arrowmasterauto buy shit from vendor
11:08.54Arrowmasteri used to use it for combat pots before they switched them to costing honor
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11:08.57Orionshockthe bank aspect normalizes your bags to bank
11:09.26Arrowmasteri think the bank part is takes stuff from bank and puts into bags
11:09.36Orionshocksay you set it to always carry 10 pots on you and the rest in the bank. so you hit the bank and pulls X from your bank till you have 10
11:09.50Orionshockand if you have more than 10 then it pushes it to the bank
11:10.04Arrowmasteri didnt think it would push back to the bank
11:10.10Arrowmasterunless i havent kept up with updates
11:10.29Arrowmasternow i only use it for flash powder on my rogue and symbols on my pally
11:10.45Orionshockthats how i understood it
11:11.27KemayoI knew that was the basics of what it did -- vh and NHTS were complaining about its bank stuff not working reliably, though, so I was wondering about the specifics of what was going wrong.
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11:15.54Fisker-thanks a lot nevcairiel :(
11:16.03nevcairielyour welcome
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11:17.51Fisker-but srsly halp me nevcairiel :(
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11:19.44Fisker-there will be cake
11:19.49Fisker-i promise
11:20.06nevcairielthe cake is a lie
11:20.46nevcairielplus i dont know what you want
11:21.07Fisker-you said that i could use closetgnome to switch my gear when i got inner demon
11:21.24nevcairieli said it could do it, not that it actually can
11:21.42Fisker-:/
11:21.53Fisker-you shouldn't happen to accept requests to hitting yourself in theh ead?
11:21.55Fisker-head*
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11:34.38Orionshockwoot woot, Illhoof down on 9th attempt between 2 days
11:34.52ZhinjioIllhoof can be a pain in the butt
11:34.56Orionshockfirst kill and the druid staff drops
11:35.01Zhinjiothats awesome.
11:36.03nevcairielif i may ask, wth did you do the last half year ? :P
11:36.19Orionshockxfered to a new server 2months ago
11:36.31Orionshockjust with in the last 3 weeks we'lve started kara back up
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11:37.27Pkekyois there an ETA on patch 2.3?
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11:37.35nevcairielwhen its done
11:37.37nevcairielbefore 2.4
11:37.44nevcairielwhat fits you most
11:40.09Fisker-On a tuesday(wednesday for europe)
11:40.18nevcairielthursday for asia
11:40.32Fisker-i'd say probably not this tuesday but perhaps next tuesday
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11:40.49ie|Stiffeble
11:41.04nevcairielmy guess is 2 weeks after the background loader starts
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11:41.53Fisker-BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN
11:42.07Fisker-Just bought the 8800 GT
11:42.31Fisker-And this guy who wasted a shitload of money on the 8800 GTX just had to validate his machine again because he's emo about just having wasted money
11:42.32Fisker-:D
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11:42.46nevcairiellol
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11:43.52Fisker-Really i told him several times to just wait, crysis wouldn't be out until a couple of weeks anyways
11:44.07Fisker-But the others kept supporting him
11:44.11nevcairieli need to try the demo
11:44.20Fisker-I guess now he knows who actually knows about the hardware :D
11:44.41nevcairiel20min left on demo download
11:44.54Fisker-Benchies also tell that Quad-Cores deals with Crysis a lot better
11:45.09Fisker-The others were against that as well
11:45.15Pkekyonevcairiel: the demo is so full of win and awesome, i can't even begin to describe how win it is
11:45.42Fisker-i hate the suit
11:46.04Fisker-seems a bit silly to have this supersuit, and be challenged by koreans in kevlar
11:51.08PkekyoFisker-: then set difficulty settings to 'easy' and you'll be fine :p
11:52.20Fisker-i did that as well
11:52.23Fisker-didn't change much
11:52.30Fisker-i did learn though
11:52.39Fisker-the cloak only takes a lot of energy if you move
11:52.47Fisker-which i didn't know before
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12:01.31PkekyoFisker-: same here
12:01.41Pkekyotook me a while to figure out though
12:02.09PkekyoI ordered crysis 5 min after I finished the demo x)
12:02.28[Ammo]Fisker-: I've found your suspension record from last year! http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o226/kharmaa/?action=view&current=ImBurned.jpg
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12:03.09nevcairielrofl
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12:03.58Jagobahhahaha
12:04.26Pkekyolmfao
12:05.13Fisker-HAHAHA
12:05.15Pkekyosuspended for 105 days for that?! O.o
12:07.52Fisker-I don't think that was a coincidence
12:07.56Fisker-that was a month after 1.9
12:08.04Pkekyo1.9?
12:08.14Fisker-the paladin review
12:08.20Pkekyoah
12:08.23Pkekyorofl
12:09.51Pkekyoanyone remember what patch the warrior review was
12:09.51Pkekyo?
12:09.56siIentiumWoW combat log messages are vulgar language? o_O
12:10.14Pkekyoyeah, that one puzzled me a bit as well
12:10.50CorganHAMMER OF JUSTICE
12:11.20|Stan|Referring Staff Member: GM < lol
12:11.35PkekyoI'd kill to have seen that
12:11.51Corganthat's so great
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12:27.09Pkekyodid anyone play the crysis demo at low settings?
12:27.55Pkekyohttp://www.collegehumor.com/video:1774935 ftwe
12:27.56Fisker-http://i22.tinypic.com/f1a2d1.jpg <-awsum amirite?
12:27.56Pkekyo-e
12:28.18PkekyoFisker-: that on low settings?
12:28.24Fisker-high settings
12:28.41Pkekyolooks shittier than when I run on low settings lol
12:29.03Fisker-jpeg compression does look shitty yes
12:29.12Fisker-and it's hard to see on the screenshots as well
12:29.14Pkekyowell, I'm off to run through the demo again :) laters
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12:43.14CIA-703fin * r53377 10Fence/modules/Fence_Browse.lua:
12:43.14CIA-7Fence:
12:43.14CIA-7- Browse module: added option list the per-item price for single items (ie, the price of the item itself; helps when scanning down a mixed list of items in the AH)
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13:23.13Fisker-LOLTARDS
13:23.28Fisker-it's funny how little blizztard know about their own game :I
13:25.01|Stan|Hardware sound is back, I guess you should really connect on the PTR if you had sound issues before, and report on test realm forums if it's not resolved yet. <- Hooray
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13:25.57Codayus_Fisker-: Ah?
13:26.23Fisker-found out why the dark iron invasions where disabled
13:26.49Codayus_Ah?
13:27.05Fisker-it was because of the /wave spam
13:27.29Codayus_...why would that be an issue?
13:27.35Fisker-it wouldn't
13:27.42Fisker-which is why i'm laughing
13:27.53nevcairielthe hardware sound on PTR sucked for me, did only hear half the stuff
13:29.32Codayus_"Second place is the first 'additional participant'."
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13:43.47Pkekyolmao, this 77 year old twat is filing a lawsuit against a 19 year old girl because she wouldn't have sex with him
13:44.17Nefarionhahaha
13:44.23Nefarionlink?
13:44.26nevcairielhaha i heard that in news
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13:44.51nevcairielshe said he is too old, and he sued for age discrimination =P
13:45.11nevcairielobviously, he lost
13:45.59Pkekyonevcairiel: did the trial take place yet?
13:46.27nevcairielmaybe it happend multiple times the last weeks, but the one i know of took place yet
13:46.59nevcairieli bet the judge laughed
13:47.45Pkekyoindeed
13:48.39Pkekyowonder what major damage has been done to that guy O.o
13:56.56kenlyricwas she a prostitute?
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14:00.04Pkekyono
14:00.13Pkekyojust some randomass 19 year old girl
14:03.06TNSebasically he probably gave her shit of stuff and she was just in on it for giggles and he didnt like when she said he was too old for le bedrollin
14:05.21Pkekyohe met her out one night, she came home with him, when she said she wouldn't sleep with him he filed a lawsuit
14:06.50TNSeheh
14:07.56Megalonis that something like "sue the fuck out of it"?
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14:11.01Pkekyommmmmmmmmaybe?
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14:14.18wdchey guys sorry to come here and be annoying but i couldn't find it using search on the forums, does anyone know the name of the mod that puts a grid on your screen so you can line everything up?
14:14.42|Stan|Align
14:14.49wdcthanks ! :)
14:14.53|Stan|np
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14:23.32CIA-703ananhaid * r53379 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
14:23.32CIA-7BigWigs:
14:23.32CIA-7- zhCN Updated (Thanks The7)
14:31.04_raneis there an addon for AH that shows price of each item of a stack?
14:31.21_ranei might have to rephrase that..
14:31.23Wobinauc advanced has that option
14:31.41Wobinsomething that shows items by single price
14:35.09Megalonor you install PricePer
14:36.01Megalonwhich adds the price per item in the AH list
14:38.13baer_what's "target of target of target" good for?
14:39.49Xinhuanyou are a healer.
14:39.52Xinhuanyou target the tank
14:39.52Megalonmt healers see who the boss is targeting with secondary target abilities
14:39.56Xinhuanthe tank targets the boss
14:40.10Xinhuanand the boss targets someone else that isn't the tank cos he pulled aggro or used a random target boss ability
14:40.17Xinhuanthen you can heal that guy
14:40.32kenlyricuseful on phase 2 of razorgore.
14:40.35Xinhuanso that's target-target-target
14:40.55Xinhuanheaps of bosses do random target shit
14:41.00baer_Xinhuan: ok, but why don't you take boss-target-of-target?
14:41.09Xinhuanbecause you're a healer
14:41.14Xinhuanyou target your MT by default
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14:41.16WobinYou realise that if you ever use: "Target of Target of Target of Target of Target of Target", you'll -always- get Kevin Bacon?
14:41.38Xinhuanhealing the boss's target isn't quite the same as healing the MT
14:41.42Xinhuanalthough they overlap a bit
14:42.24Xinhuanyou don't usually need T-T-T to be honest
14:42.34Xinhuansince you'll probably have assigned dedicated healers to the MT
14:42.38Xinhuanand dedicated raid healers
14:42.59kenlyricI haven't used it since before TBC.
14:43.26Xinhuanits not that useful due to the slowness of it
14:43.43kenlyricuseful on maiden too.
14:43.45XuerianI used to use it all the time when healing
14:44.18Fisker-:o
14:44.22Fisker-Leotheras seems pretty easy
14:44.36cladhairemy mom is pretty easy imo
14:45.18XuerianSpoken with authority.
14:45.21Fisker-yeah already know that
14:45.29cladhairek k just checking.
14:45.32kenlyriche's seen crackwhore magazine
14:49.37Fisker-nah
14:53.02CIA-703pettigrow * r53380 10BigWigs/Karazhan/RomuloJulianne.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/RomuloJulianne: frFR Update (thanks Khyaz)
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14:56.04Gngsk!points 1625
14:56.04XinhuanYou cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap).
14:56.28CIA-703ackis * r53381 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
14:56.28CIA-7AckisRecipeList:
14:56.28CIA-7- Fixed typo (Thanks Fred)
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15:00.13Ozguli!points 400
15:00.14Xinhuan400 arena points require 1549(5s), 1592(3s) and 1645(2s) team rating.
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15:01.57HungheroI'm looking for an addon that tells you how much xp you are getting per hour, any recommendations?
15:02.08HungheroI would also love to find one that does money/hour
15:02.56Pkekyohaha, I love teh "omg why so sex?" keylogger posts
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15:09.22kenlyricexperiencefu does it.
15:09.47kenlyricand moneyfu does money per hour
15:10.53Pkekyoare the mmo-champion forums any fun
15:10.54Pkekyo?=
15:10.58Codexiusanyone here able to do a SUCCESSFUL search with auctioneer advanced?
15:11.07Hungherokenlyric, thanks
15:11.14PkekyoCodexius: aye?
15:11.22Hungheroi've never used the fu addons, they require fubar right?
15:11.45Pkekyowell
15:11.49Pkekyoif you don't have fubar
15:12.01Pkekyothey'll show up as fuckloads of minimap icons, iirc?
15:12.25CodexiusPkeye, I have the weirdest problem, I can't manage to do a search and have it return any results... lets say I click "find usable recipes", it takes like over 5 min, by which time I just stop it
15:12.54Pkekyochecked manually if there actually is any on AH?
15:12.57Hungherowhich they were ace2 addons.. got love ace2
15:12.58kenlyricthey show up as a minimap icon and you can detach the tooltip.
15:13.01Nefarionyeah they'll become minimap icons if fubar is missing
15:13.12Hungherowish* they were
15:13.15Nefarionall tooltip features still included afaik
15:13.16PkekyoI never had that problem though....
15:13.16Pkekyooff to dinner...laters all
15:13.32Nefarionace2 is sooooo overrated  =P
15:14.05CIA-703pettigrow * r53383 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: TouristLib: frFR Update
15:14.06Nefarionwell most fu addons are ace, but that really doesn't matter
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15:16.56Hungherowell thanks guys.. I'll look forward to making my own ace2 mod soon.. till then, take care
15:18.40CIA-703ananhaid * r53384 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
15:18.40CIA-7BigWigs:
15:18.40CIA-7- zhCN Updated (Thanks The7)
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15:20.47CIA-703laotseu * r53385 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua:
15:20.47CIA-7AllPlayed:
15:20.47CIA-7- Now have the new XP values for the 2.3 patch (from WoWWiki)
15:20.47CIA-7- Still use the old values for version 2.2.3
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15:31.13Fisker-bah
15:31.16Fisker-i got 12348 mana
15:31.53CIA-703siz * r53386 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/AddonSpamFu.lua:
15:31.53CIA-7FuBar_AddonSpamFu:
15:31.53CIA-7Properly comment out the UnknownMessages debugging stuff. Thanks kemayo.
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15:40.54|Stan|Fisker-: class?
15:41.26WobinBah
15:41.29WobinFisker has no class =P
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15:45.41PkekyoFisker- is lower class
15:46.26Pkekyohe's a pala, if memory serves
15:47.43RaydenUniso stopcasting question
15:47.54Pkekyodon't stop casting
15:48.01Pkekyospell cast damge > no spell cast
15:48.01RaydenUniif you use a nochanneling macro on something like Mind Flay, are you wasting time in between your channels?
15:48.13RaydenUniomg, that's why i'm doing 0 dps!
15:48.18Pkekyo^^
15:48.27Gagorian-Nochanneling macro makes sure you get your last tick
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15:50.43RaydenUnii like this macro
15:50.46RaydenUni<PROTECTED>
15:51.01RaydenUnioh crap i'm going to die! spam! spam! spam!
15:51.33Pkekyo:)
15:51.42PkekyoI only use one macro
15:51.49kenlyriccancel form after pw:s
15:52.12Pkekyoit triggers the use function on the HH helmet whenever I charge/intercept xD
15:53.05RaydenUnii'm not going to use it
15:53.09RaydenUnii just thought it was funny
15:53.17RaydenUniwhat does the helmet do?
15:53.59Pkekyoit's got an insane/manical laughter on right-click
15:54.12Pkekyo30 sec cooldown
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15:54.50RaydenUniis the helmet good? do you wear it?
15:55.00Pkekyoyeah
15:55.03EricaAnyone know if the latest fix for sorren timers also corrected the issue with snake traps?
15:55.09Pkekyofor me it was an upgrade from overlord's helmet of second sight
15:55.15Pkekyo!c eu bloodfeather baesj
15:55.24Pkekyofucksake, WHERE IS THRAEBOT?!
15:55.52Pkekyohttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodfeather&n=Baesj there it is
15:55.52nevcairieljust go to the damn armory yourself
15:56.00Pkekyogemmed it for DW fury
15:56.04Pkekyonevcairiel: no
15:56.13Fisker-oh u Wobwork
15:56.23Fisker-it was just because liek i wanted 12345 mana instead
15:56.59PkekyoFisker-: must be some low-level debuff that will decrease your int by 3 or something?
15:57.33Pkekyoanyone know what happened to thraebot though?
15:57.34Fisker-1 int = 15 mana if memory serves
15:57.57Pkekyoah, fucksake
15:58.03Pkekyowell then...meh, I'm out if ideas
15:58.13Silviu-[Ammo] , vhaarr http://ace.pastey.net/76063
15:58.46[Ammo]checking
15:58.49dylanmFisker-: Correct, before any wild percentage talents.
15:58.51Silviu-Okay
15:59.36CIA-703ammo * r53387 10BigWigs/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: BigWigs: foreign languages ftl
16:00.01Silviu-Thank u :)
16:00.16PkekyoRaydenUni: http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=33808 pewpew
16:00.42RaydenUniyeah looks nice
16:01.09Fisker-almost got leo though
16:01.12Fisker-i must hand it to him though
16:01.35Fisker-very good damage considered he's blind and insane
16:01.54nevcairielhe is not completly blind
16:01.59nevcairieldemon vision, like illidan, ftw
16:02.09Fisker-i think i'll write a letter of complaint to vashj for hiring insane people
16:02.15Fisker-AM I A DEMON?!
16:02.47Fisker-pretty cool encounter btw
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16:13.18EricaWow I'm in love with Sorren timers again.... and EVL!  :)
16:13.37RaydenUnihttp://wowhead.com/?item=24250 better than http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28477   shadowpriest
16:13.39RaydenUni?
16:13.52EricaSnake traps timers are working right now with the latest fix
16:14.24EricaFinally... I have a timer mod that gives me what I want
16:16.13EricaCudos to anyone else who may have helped with that
16:16.20RaydenUnikudos?
16:16.28Ericayeah sorry
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16:21.58DustwhisperHavok ones RaydenUni
16:22.03Dustwhisperanything with more spelldmg =D
16:22.07RaydenUniyeah
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16:22.15RaydenUnias i'm looking at the gear to upgrade, most is better than KZ
16:22.24CIA-7037destiny * r53388 10BigWigs/ (Hyjal/Archimonde.lua Karazhan/Nightbane.lua): BigWigs: zhCN fix
16:22.35RaydenUnibracers, belt, ring is almost on par
16:22.50RaydenUnii think only the cloak will be an upgrade
16:23.08Dustwhisperfrozen shadowweave + spellstrike + bracers of havok + either moroes cloak or something
16:23.10RaydenUnii guess this is what they mean when they say shadow priests dominate low end raiding due to craftable gear
16:23.17Dustwhisperthe ring from badges + headless horseman rings
16:23.24RaydenUnihttp://wowhead.com/?item=24252
16:23.24RaydenUni<PROTECTED>
16:23.26Dustwhisperneck from prince or something else
16:23.37Dustwhisperaye but moroes one is a tad better
16:23.52RaydenUniyeah
16:23.52Dustwhisper1 more spelldmg then 19 stam and 18 int
16:24.07RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28530
16:24.07RaydenUni<PROTECTED>
16:24.36RaydenUniheck the gloves i have from some auchindoun instance are pretty decent
16:24.39RaydenUnijust no gem slots
16:25.04RaydenUnihttp://wowhead.com/?item=24256
16:25.04RaydenUni<PROTECTED>
16:25.15Dustwhispergloves from attumen
16:26.06RaydenUnihttp://wowhead.com/?item=24256
16:26.06RaydenUni<PROTECTED>
16:27.15Dustwhispergirdle is awesome
16:27.46RaydenUnihttp://wowhead.com/?item=30038
16:27.46RaydenUni<PROTECTED>
16:29.13RaydenUnithis just means i need to start doing dailies again
16:29.39RaydenUnialso
16:29.56RaydenUnirecount always moves my dps real time graph into the upper left corner when i alt tab
16:30.03RaydenUnii have to completely reset it to get it back
16:31.25Dustwhisperrecount has been shit for me for 3 months
16:31.30Dustwhisperpapped it out for assessment and wws
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16:31.50RaydenUnii still like it
16:32.02RaydenUnibut if i have the real time dps graph out and i alt tab then it gets stuck
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16:35.07RaydenUnihmm
16:35.12RaydenUnii guess i should get the Havok bracers
16:35.19RaydenUniseeing as how they are the highest dmg ones inthe game...
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16:43.04cladhairehttp://wowhead.com/?item=30666 for the win!
16:43.32Fisker-your mothers ftw
16:44.45RaydenUnii want
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16:47.12RaydenUnialso need to farm badges to get the offhand orb of the soul-eater
16:47.20RaydenUniAND farm SL to get the Gavel of Unearthed Secrets
16:47.22RaydenUniso much farming
16:47.25cladhaireyep
16:47.29cladhairei need to do both as well
16:47.56RaydenUnii found some really useful posts on shadowpriest.com
16:48.07RaydenUnione guy with similar gear asking what he needs to get for KZ
16:48.14RaydenUniso pretty much all the stuff i need
16:48.23RaydenUniand then a list of the top 5 items for each slot
16:48.31RaydenUniwhich i surprisingly already ahve some of
16:50.00RaydenUnihttp://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=3384
16:50.32cladhaireits just so different for pvp versus raiding
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16:51.25EricaCan anyone help with a problem with fubar_tracker?  It won't show the text beside it's icon on the fubar
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16:54.06Ericayou guys must be asleep
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16:55.49HjalteYou woke me up Grrrr!!
16:56.01EricaOh... I'm sorry
16:56.11RaydenUniwoot found someone to make me bracers
16:56.17Ericagratz
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16:57.06JoshBorkewhy is TopScoreFu and DurabilityFu LOD?  and what is supposed to load them?
16:57.41Ericaso nobody feels brave enough to help with the fubar_tracker problem?  It's probably simple for a programmer
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16:59.02Funkeh`hi
16:59.10EricaHey  :)
17:03.13RaydenUninow i have 27 gold
17:03.56RaydenUnierica you've never programmed before have you?
17:06.07cncfanatics~asktoask
17:06.08purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
17:06.36cncfanaticsErica, see above
17:06.57RaydenUnii fail to see how that applies to her
17:07.00Shirikto both you noobs
17:07.00RaydenUnishe asked her question
17:07.00Shirik14(1311:0011:5714)  11-› Quit: Erica 11(n=erica647@cpe-075-178-181-026.nc.res.rr.com11)
17:07.04RaydenUnino one answered
17:07.10Shirikso stop talking to her
17:07.13Shiriklol
17:07.26cncfanatics:o can't find the question anywhere
17:07.33cncfanaticsI'm probably blind
17:07.37Shirikwell she kinda asked an extremely ambiguous question
17:07.37RaydenUni<Erica> Can anyone help with a problem with fubar_tracker?  It won't show the text beside it's icon on the fubar
17:07.49Shirikactually it's not even a question it's just a statement that implies a question
17:08.21RaydenUnii wouldn't expect an end user to know any more about the plugin than that, so i think it is a perfectly valid question
17:08.36RaydenUniThis functionality is not desired, how do i change it?
17:08.40Shirikif you reread it you'll realize that there is no question :)
17:08.40winkilleranyone got a clue if c# needs some frame refresh/redraw like java swing?
17:08.49Shirikwinkiller: I know C# is evil
17:08.49ShirikThat's all you need to know
17:08.53RaydenUniwin C#?
17:08.59RaydenUniwhat are you using to draw stuff?
17:09.02RaydenUniC# is awesome
17:09.07Shirikand winkiller, in all Windows APIs this is true
17:09.15winkillersharpdevelop atm
17:09.15Shirikso if you're using a Windows API, then yes
17:09.37RaydenUnioh i guess swing would imply windowing
17:09.53winkillerwell, I am a bit clueless why this.Width= inside a buttonclick method works but not in the constructor or normally called method
17:10.10Shirikit may be random, tbh
17:10.23winkillerso.. guess I'm missing a redraw. but frame.refresh won't work
17:10.27ShirikWindows periodically sends WM_PAINT sporadically
17:10.43winkillerwell, sporadically should be more often than every minute :P
17:10.48Shiriksome of your other code may "accidentally" trigger it, is what I mean
17:11.00Shirikthere's no guarantee on any time interval, or that it will happen at all
17:11.02Shirikit just happens
17:11.04winkilleryeah. the button click event. weird
17:11.14Shirikoh yeah, of course
17:11.24Shirikbecause if you click a button, the way it looks change during mouse down and mouse up
17:11.33winkilleryep, but that still won
17:11.42winkiller't tell how I can do it manually :) if not refresh()
17:11.50Shiriksec, I forgot the API to do it
17:12.03ShirikI seem to remember it being called Invalidate or something
17:12.58Shirikhttp://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms534893.aspx
17:13.15Shirikhow that applies to C#, I have no idea, but that's the generic API for it
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17:13.42Shirikpassing NULL, NULL, TRUE will result in all windows, all areas being updated (a full repaint)
17:14.06winkillerthanks, that gives me some hints :)
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17:22.21CIA-703peragor * r53389 10GridStatusHealer/GridStatusHealer.lua:
17:22.21CIA-7GridStatusHealer:
17:22.21CIA-7- Fixed a few nil errors in the :GetHighThreatTarget routine by adding some UnitExists() checks.
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17:31.50CIA-703stormfx * r53390 10cyCircled/plugins/Bongos2.lua:
17:31.50CIA-7cyCircled:
17:31.50CIA-7- Fix for paging in Bongos2 Plug-in (N00bZXI)
17:32.06kebinusananyone know what percent of seasonal games you have to have on a team to qualify for end of season rewards
17:33.47nymbia30% iirc
17:34.00nevcairiel20%
17:35.26CIA-703pettigrow * r53391 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: Parrot: Added french translation
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17:38.03Audrina<-- Need some help with some addons    Can someone PM me that is willing to help?
17:38.46kebinusan~ask
17:38.46purlQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
17:39.04kebinusanjust ask Audrina, someone will try and help
17:39.27AudrinaLots of ppl make me feel noob. Lol
17:41.21RaydenUniperhaps you are
17:41.27RaydenUniasking questions and listening will change that though
17:41.32RaydenUni:)
17:42.09AudrinaI have eePenels2. And would like to get some new borders. Can I?
17:42.40HjalteAudrina: They might have some at http://www.wowtextures.com/
17:43.23AudrinaAnd if so how would I go about adding them?
17:44.08HjalteAudrina: Download SharedMedia and follow the instructions.
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17:44.38HjalteSharedMedia is on files.wowace.com
17:45.40AudrinaThanks!!! =) Now lets see if I can do it. Lol >,<
17:47.06CIA-703damjau * r53392 10VisualThemes/ (Core.lua Locales/enUS.lua Locales/koKR.lua):
17:47.06CIA-7VisualThemes:
17:47.06CIA-7- updat koKR loclas
17:47.26CIA-703damjau * r53393 10Avion/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Avion - update koKR locals
17:47.30hyperChipmunk"updat koKR loclas" lol
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18:03.57Ellipsisping vhaarr
18:04.09vhaarrEllipsis: pong, please ask me in privmsg, I'm busy now
18:04.13vhaarrso I can read later
18:04.16Ellipsiskk
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18:27.38nogudnikQuick question: if I'm thinking of writing a library that other mods may want to use, would it be better to base it off LibStub, or AceLibrary?
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18:29.20dylanm_nogudnik: If it's framework-independent, which is always nice, LibStub is the way to go.
18:29.49nogudnikI'm hoping to make it independent, so LibStub it is then. Cheers.
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18:32.34arkhaalanyone got the name of this texture : http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Dauk/6.jpg ? (healthbar)
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18:44.12|Stan|arkhaal: looks like standard clio
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18:45.26arkhaali thought that too but the bottom of the texture is "cut" compared to clio
18:46.44dylanm_Otravi?
18:47.18arkhaalno =)
18:47.28arkhaallooks like a mix between smooth and otravi
18:49.30Keiasarkhaal, if you check the Pals 4 life forum, Halcyone has a link to those textures
18:49.40KeiasAll his others, also
18:50.04arkhaalyes, i checked the forum
18:50.13arkhaalbut it's a new zip with his new textures
18:50.18arkhaalthe old textures aren't
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18:57.02Keiasthat looks like uh
18:57.16Keiashrm lemme find the examples again
18:57.58Keiaskinda like C
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18:58.18Keiasor E, cause it's got that thin line across the top
18:59.45arkhaalyes but there is an horizontal gradient on new textures
18:59.46arkhaal:x
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19:10.34chronxcan anyone take a look at my attempt at a simple addon and tell me what i'm doing wrong? http://ace.pastey.net/76077
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19:11.31chronxah i already noticed the problems with getHonor() and resetHonor()
19:12.10chronxtheres still something else wrong though... because my addon somehow causes a runtime error
19:12.30nymbiachronx: what error?
19:13.37chronx"not enough storage is available to process this command." file .\SFile2.cpp line 1270 etc etc.. "requested 1359774074 byes of memory"
19:13.45Fisker-MINE
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19:14.20nymbia:o
19:14.22chronxthats a lot of byes o_O
19:15.09chronxif i disable my addon thought the problem dissapears
19:15.14chronxthough*
19:15.26nymbiachronx: sounds like an infinite loop, but i can't see where.. try commenting out the whole .lua file and see if it still happens
19:16.09chronxsame error
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19:24.05kebinusanhmm anyone bartender 2 really needs an option to lock buttons even when shift is held down
19:24.06chronxnymbia: any ideas? doesn't make any sense to me
19:24.12kebinusanits annoying to drag stuff off your bars
19:25.09nymbiachronx: maybe comment the libraries in the toc?  that's weird..
19:25.18kebinusanin Button.lua, if ( not Bartender3.db.profile.ButtonLock or IsShiftKeyDown()) then should be an AND not an or no?
19:26.05chronxnymbia: i commented out the libs and i still get the same error
19:26.37Zhinjiochronx,you're missing a comma after the set in the reset arg
19:27.14Zhinjioactually, in both the reset and honor args
19:27.21chronxi fixed that as well
19:27.24Zhinjiook
19:28.53kebinusanwhy can I drag things off my pet bar with buttons locked, argh
19:29.30ZhinjioI don't remember the set and get methods being strings. I thought they were function references.
19:29.52Zhinjiobut.... I'm fairly new to this, so...
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19:30.14Zhinjioyeah, I've gotta vaccuum. Back later.
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19:32.09Cheadshmm isn't there some cartographer addon that adds mailboxes that you use/visit?
19:32.18CheadsI can see I have a few registrered by POI
19:32.22CIA-703darchon * r53397 10CCBreaker/Locale-koKR.lua: CCBreaker: koKR Update
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19:32.37Cheadsand I have POI enabled.. but new visited mail boxes are not added
19:34.23kenlyriccart_mailboxes?
19:35.33Cheadsthanks =)
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19:47.49_raneis there an addon for linking talent texts in chat? i remembers seeing an addon like that somewhere
19:48.17chronxnymbia i renamed by addon from HonorCount to HonorCounter and no more error
19:50.03Chompers_rane: Talented
19:50.23_ranethanks
19:50.59CIA-703kemayo * r53398 10BankStack/ (Bindings.xml core.lua fu.lua):
19:50.59CIA-7BankStack:
19:50.59CIA-7-Generalize core.Stack so it can stack from an arbitrary group of bags to another arbitrary group of bags. Allowing...
19:50.59CIA-7-Add bag/bank compression -- merge stacks to fill. ("/compress", "/compress bank")
19:50.59CIA-7-Add slashcommand to reverse the bankstack, filling bag stacks from the bank. ("/bankstack reverse")
19:51.01CIA-7-"/bankstack help" summarizes this.
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19:56.11_raneChompers: how does the linking happen?
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19:56.53TrelaBoo!
19:57.39TrelaIs any one around?
19:57.43manyboo!
19:57.44manyno.
19:58.26TrelaDang.
19:58.50TrelaTrying to figure out a crazy issue and I may just be crazy.
20:04.27Chompersi'm not sure what you mean rane
20:04.40_ranewell i want to link the talent descriptions in chat
20:04.50Chompersit'll do a wowhead link
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20:05.02Chompersor if people use a libary it'll share it when you mouseover people
20:05.02_ranewhy would i want that
20:05.39_raneyeah, well that has it's uses
20:13.11chronxhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPVPThisWeekStats why doesn't GetPVPThisWeekStats() work?
20:15.49Zhinjiochronx: it returns two values?
20:15.58Zhinjioit does work, just make sure you assign the results correctly
20:17.23chronx./script out(GetPVPThisWeekStats()) shouldn't cause an error should it?
20:17.23Chompershydross is so frustrating
20:17.37chronxhydross is a joke if no one is retarded
20:17.39Chompersone badly timed dot or hot and everyone dies
20:17.39Pkekyoanyone know how the noise-reduction tool in photoshop works?
20:17.49chronxteron gorefiend is an annoying fight ;)
20:18.02chronxs/annoying/frustrating/
20:18.10Chompersgimme a few months to get there and i'll probably agree
20:19.16evl_teron is easy :P
20:19.25evl_aoe -> shackle -> 2x lance and you can dance around
20:19.39evl_if you only lance each once you're gonna have problems
20:20.03Chomperstime for another attempt
20:20.30chronxZhinjio why does /script out(GetPVPThisWeekStats()) cause an error?
20:20.52chronxevl_ i'll have to tell me guild that strategy... we've been shackle -> lance each -> aoe -> repeat
20:20.58ZhinjioI'm having trouble getting in game. give me a moment. chronx
20:21.00evl_no  no no
20:21.03evl_that's bad bad bad
20:21.08evl_aoe -> shackle -> 2x lance
20:21.16evl_if you lance once you get 10 seconds -50% speed
20:21.22evl_if you do it twice it's -100% for 10 sec
20:21.24evl_meaning loooads of time
20:21.38chronx-100% o_O? wouldn't that mean it snares them
20:21.42evl_not doing aoe first is waste of tps
20:21.44evl_dps*
20:21.48evl_no, :)
20:22.07evl_I dunno how it's calculated bt I guess it's -50% + -50%
20:22.08evl_meaning SLOW
20:22.22evl_belive me we solved it when we started lancing twice
20:22.23chronxmultiplicatively stacks or w/e its called
20:22.31CIA-703nimbal * r53399 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
20:22.31CIA-7Buffalo2:
20:22.31CIA-7* put unneeded buff objects back in the sack
20:22.31CIA-7* assertion inserted for an ugly bug
20:22.31CIA-7* TargetBuffs container
20:22.34evl_it also helps to do /cast [pet] Spirit Lance; Shiv or similar for spam
20:23.02chronxo_O?
20:24.22evl_yeah
20:24.27evl_if you have a spam spell
20:24.32evl_like sinister strike, backstab etc.
20:24.37evl_you probably have it bound to some close key
20:24.43evl_with taht you can spam it when you lance
20:24.50evl_dunno how it works for actual pet classes :P
20:25.19chronxsome of us have bound the spells to f1-f7 keys
20:27.03Zhinjiochronx... I'm thinking something has changed since that wiki page was written. That function call is a nil value now.
20:27.11chronxevl_ any tips for doing azgalor? our melee gets raped from the rein of fire
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20:27.22chronxZhinjio so i'm not crazy? :)
20:27.30Zhinjiodon't think so.
20:27.34chronx\o/
20:27.46Zhinjiowell, actually, I can't speak to that. You may very well be. BUt you're not wrong about the function call.
20:28.35Zhinjioactually, I know where to look. this has got to be in blizz's default paperdoll screen.
20:30.29CIA-703cwdg * r53400 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua:
20:30.29CIA-7BigWigs:
20:30.29CIA-7-thanks ananhaid update zhCN local for BossMods.fix zhCN local.
20:31.02Zhinjiochronx: yeah, those calls are completely outdated now
20:31.09Zhinjioeverything is arena functions now
20:31.19Zhinjiolemme keep looking.
20:31.22chronxkk
20:32.00CIA-703nimbal * r53401 10Buffalo2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Buffalo2: Merging some branch changes into trunk
20:34.42Zhinjiothere doesn't appear to be a "week" function anymore. just hk, contribution = GetPVPYesterdayStats();
20:34.50Zhinjioand hk, contribution =  GetPVPLifetimeStats();
20:35.09Zhinjioat least, the default interface doesn't call them anymore. I don't know.
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20:39.01Pkekyoanyone know how the noise-reduction tool in photoshop works?
20:39.16RaydenUniany ya'll got a screenshot with no interface?
20:41.53ZealotOnAStickchronx: have your melee (other than your MT) wear some FR gear.
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20:42.37OzguliZealotOnAStick what boss?
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20:43.12Ozgulisome, can't remember what, doesn't care about resistances but strikes straight trought
20:43.27ZealotOnAStickOzguli: he asked about Azgalor.
20:43.37Ozguliwasn't that then
20:44.30Zhinjiohey Pkekyo.
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20:53.36chronxZealotOnAStick our MT doesn't have a problem ... its our melee... rogues/shaman
20:54.00Fisker-hey
20:54.02Fisker-i'm a shark
20:54.06Fisker-i'm a shark!
20:54.09Fisker-SUCK MY DICK
20:54.13Fisker-I'm a shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark!
20:55.32TrelaTempting proposition.
20:55.33Ellipsiso.O
20:55.49Fisker-it
20:55.52Ellipsisme first
20:55.54Fisker-it's better than the other way around
20:55.57Fisker-especially if i'm a shark
20:56.18Ellipsisa level 27 druid just asked me to join a 5v5 team
20:56.46Brunerakael down!
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20:56.52chronxgrats
20:57.10chronxspeaking of kael.... bizz neeeds to stop nerfing him every patch imo
20:57.13Zhinjiosharks actually have 2 dicks. think of the possibilities.
20:57.35Brunerathey need to stop nerfing in general
20:57.38Ellipsishow do you know this Zhinjio? x.x
20:57.46Zhinjioer, wait. maybe that was dolphins.
20:57.49Zhinjioyeah, dolphins.
20:57.50Zhinjiomy bad.
20:57.51Ellipsis...
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20:58.30Ellipsisso uh
20:58.36Ellipsishow much do nether combines usually cost
20:58.45ZhinjioI suppose the same question still appplies, eh?
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20:59.27Zhinjioby "nether combine" do you mean having someone else use their nether in a crafted item made for you?
20:59.46Ellipsisyeah
20:59.56Zhinjioon my server, prices are probably a bit over 100g
21:00.02Ellipsisyouch x.x
21:00.07Diaowtf is wrong with freenode :(
21:00.14Diaoeverytime i dc it won't let me change my nick back until i reconnect
21:00.20Zhinjiothere's a movement recently trying to increase that to 200g, but I'm not having it. THere are still plenty of people around who will do their crafts for 100g.
21:00.44chronxi charge 90g for my nethers
21:00.47chronx50g for guildies
21:00.52DiaoO_O
21:00.54EllipsisDiao: if you can't change your nick while offline, that's your client's fault, not freenode's o.O
21:00.59Diaono not offline
21:01.05Diaolike i'll reconnect automatically under adifferent name
21:01.15Arrowmasteri saw somebody on my server offering to make a spellthread for 65g
21:01.17Ellipsisoh, and your ghost is still online?
21:01.18CIA-703cwdg * r53402 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 4 dirs):
21:01.18CIA-7BigWigs:
21:01.18CIA-7update zhCN
21:01.19RaydenUnii just got my spellstrike hoodie made for 85g
21:01.20Ellipsisl2 /ns ghost
21:01.22Diaono Ellipsis
21:01.27Diaoafter the ghost disconnects
21:01.31Diaomy script autorecovers the name
21:01.39Diaoand i get this error only on freenode but not on other networks
21:01.40Diao[13:51:53] [ freenode ] *** [Diao] Change to nickname too fast - Changing in 0 seconds (F10 to cancel)
21:01.43Ellipsisl2 /ns release
21:01.46chronxRaydenUni wow i would charge way more for spellstrike nether than say the runic spellthread nethers that i sell
21:01.49Ellipsisoh
21:01.55Ellipsiswhy don't you add a delay to your script?
21:02.00Diaoi tried that
21:02.07Diaoeven if it i set a 1 minute delay
21:02.08Arrowmasteryour not in a +m channel are you?
21:02.15Diaonope
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21:02.17RaydenUniyeah chronx i thought it was kind of cheap
21:02.18Ellipsischronx: so how much would you charge for a runic thread?
21:02.20Neeblerhttp://m4.bestpicever.com/pics/pic_11936009173448.jpg
21:02.26RaydenUniconsidering the spellstrike pattern is rare
21:02.28Diaoor wait
21:02.31EllipsisI got each spellstrike piece made for 70g...
21:02.32Diaonm
21:02.35Diao#wowace-cia is +m
21:02.37Ellipsisbut that was from friends/guildies
21:02.38Diaois that why?
21:02.43Ellipsispossibly
21:02.50Diaooh
21:02.56Diaoyou guys
21:02.57NightHawkTheSaneDiao: yes
21:03.12Diaohave expensive nethers :(
21:03.17Diaoit's ~30g average on blackrock horde
21:03.26Ellipsiso.o
21:03.27Ellipsiswant
21:03.30Zhinjiomost of my guildies won't charge for nethers as long as they have a couple.
21:03.45Diaoyeah it's free for guildies in my guild
21:03.45RaydenUniDiao including crafting?
21:03.49Diaoyep including crafting
21:03.52Diaothey say
21:03.56Diao"making ____ your mats my nether 30g"
21:04.02Diaoin trade
21:04.06RaydenUnithat's nice
21:04.15Diaobut my guild has crafters of every type
21:04.19RaydenUnisome guy charged me 20g to make Bracers of Havok today
21:04.21Diaoso whatever i want, i run people through a heroic and grab a nether
21:04.26Diaoand they make it free
21:04.35Ellipsisrofl
21:04.52RaydenUnii don't know if anyone in my guild has a pattern that requires a nether...
21:04.53Ellipsiswhile we're talking about nether prices some guy in trade on my server just said "buying 3 primal nethers...PLEASE
21:04.54Ellipsis"
21:04.56Diaolol
21:05.09durcynand this is why i keep public channels off.
21:05.17Ellipsislike he must have been trying for ages and nobody would sell them to him...I wonder why??
21:05.43Xelopherislol
21:06.16Diaoi'm kinda surprised
21:06.19Diaothat surefooted requires a nether
21:06.22Diaobut no other kara enchants do
21:06.58Ellipsisbleh
21:07.05ZhinjioI need a few more points to make my tankatronic goggles. that takes a nether
21:07.14Zhinjioand my boots of the protector are two, I think
21:07.20Ellipsisso it will cost me 250g to get a runic spellthread made...or 400 to buy one off the AH
21:07.53ZhinjioI had the primals for my golden spellthread for my healing gear. just paid the 100g for the nether
21:08.01Zhinjioand ... now I idle. time to carve pumpkins
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21:08.41EllipsisI wonder how much it would cost me to get the rep to make my own thread...
21:09.10HjalteEllipsis: You have to pay 250g for the nether?!
21:09.43Orionshockmorning
21:10.02Diaodepends on prices for the stuff?
21:10.14Diaogenerally scryer is more expensive than aldor too isn't it
21:10.29Xelopherisnot necessarily
21:11.09Xelopherison my server it's usually 100 gold per nether except on farmable recipes (whitemend and spellstrike are like, 50-75g for the nether)
21:11.35RaydenUnifarmable vs what?
21:11.36Diaoi mean
21:11.42Xelopherisvs world drop
21:11.45Diaothe scryer things
21:11.47Diaorep things
21:11.53Xelopherisworld drops and exalted grinds are usualyl 100 a piece
21:12.10EllipsisHjalte: no, mats + nether
21:12.37EllipsisI could always farm the primals but I'd rather farm the rep items so I can make my own thread :(
21:12.40Bruneraim getting 250g each nether when crafting axes
21:13.38XelopherisI get 100 a nether on armor kits or the few world drop patterns I have
21:13.52Brunerabut then again im one of the few with those patterns
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21:18.07Orionshockwhen the patch hits, nethers will drop in price.
21:19.06HjalteOrionshock: People said the same thing when they were buyable with nethers, they didnt drop much.
21:19.11aestil~seen sirow
21:19.15purlsirow <n=Miranda_@p57A4FD68.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 22h 13m 52s ago, saying: 'updated LibCD'.
21:19.34aestilthat jerk, he updated libCD but it didn't fix it.
21:19.40Orionshockya buyable nethers at 10 bages ea, you still had to do heroics.. and everyone knows heroics suck
21:20.05Orionshocknow KZ/ZA will drop them so bages will come in on a more regular basis
21:20.18NightHawkTheSanebadges*
21:20.26Orionshock:P
21:21.40XelopherisKara will be run by 10 T6 crafters
21:21.59Xelopheriswrecked by*
21:27.28Orionshockwhat
21:27.38Orionshockwhat's with all the violence?
21:27.48RaydenUnithat is for slapping me 12 hours ago
21:28.03Orionshockonly b/c you slaped me 12hrs before that
21:28.44Orionshockyou asked what my addon did
21:29.14OrionshockSOCD, SickOfClickingDailys, does just that. it clicks though the gossip text on dailies
21:30.13RaydenUnigossip text?
21:30.33RaydenUnioh you talk to the quest giver and you automatically get the quest?
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21:30.37RaydenUnino need to accept it?
21:30.42Orionshockyep
21:30.51Orionshockright click to get - right ckick to turn in
21:31.11RaydenUnioh ok
21:31.16_raneanyone know addon that enables linking talent descriptions in chat?
21:31.16RaydenUnithat wasn't very clear
21:31.49Orionshock"Sick of Clicking Dailies ?"
21:31.59RaydenUninope, not clear enough
21:32.07RaydenUnii didn't know what you meant by "clicking dailies"
21:32.20RaydenUnii wouldn't say that is a universal term
21:33.10Ozguli...bagnon_forever\db.lua:286 usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink")
21:33.30Ozgulioften getting that error when checking craft item link
21:34.34RaydenUniOrionshock i'm serious
21:34.39RaydenUnii had no idea what you meant
21:34.46Orionshocklol im not :P
21:34.47Orionshockhehe
21:35.04RaydenUniif it was described as "remove quest acceptance clicking from dailies" that would be more clear
21:35.21RaydenUnior removes NPC interaction
21:35.26Orionshockmeh
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21:35.31Orionshockstill have to talk to the NPC
21:35.37nymbiaclick of sicking dailies?
21:35.47Ozgulino one knows about bagnon?
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21:36.15TullerI can tell you I fixed that error a few weeks ago :)
21:36.29nymbiaTuller: that's not good enough.
21:36.30Pkekyo21:44Zhinjiohey Pkekyo.
21:36.30Pkekyohi
21:36.56JoshBorkeany spriests on?
21:37.00OzguliI can tell you I updated all my addons less than a day ago :P
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21:37.37Orionshocknymbia: yes, very much so
21:38.17FinJoshBorke: yes
21:38.52Bejittholy crap.. why is InspectUnit hiding.. everything >_<
21:39.17JoshBorkehttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Dagh <-- is me
21:39.28JoshBorkeshould i upgrade my off-hand or a trinket first?
21:39.49Temoffhand
21:39.56Temand dear god get some resilience
21:40.05Finhmm
21:40.07Temspellstrike = bad for pvp
21:40.09Finfor PvP?
21:40.11Finyeah
21:40.14FinBattlecast is what you want
21:40.17JoshBorkei don't pvp
21:40.21JoshBorkei lose
21:40.23FinSpellstrike then
21:40.34Temand actually, I think battlecast is better for him in pve
21:40.44Temcrit means fuckall for spriests
21:40.46JoshBorkespellstrike is better for pve
21:41.00Temand battlecast has more spelldamage
21:41.10JoshBorkethe proc is super nice, and i already have spellstrike =P
21:41.12Temoh, but you're a tailor
21:41.17Temso the set bonus matters
21:41.22Temyeah, spellstrike then
21:41.27JoshBorkeso offhand first?
21:41.37TemGo grind Ogri'la Rep for a better offhand
21:41.42Finuhmmm
21:41.50Pkekyo~seen Zhinjio
21:41.52purlzhinjio is currently on #wowace (18h 46m 4s). Has said a total of 37 messages. Is idling for 33m 51s, last said: 'and ... now I idle. time to carve pumpkins'.
21:41.52FinI reckon trinket first, personally
21:41.57Temand go grind Badges for a better trinket
21:42.01Findepends what you're upgrading to I guess
21:42.13TemIcon of the Silver Crescent is <3
21:42.28JoshBorkeogres have nice offhand?  i don't recall seeing one
21:42.58JoshBorkei'm really liking the mana regen from Mark of Defiance
21:43.04Temyeah
21:43.17Temthe ogres have the best non-raid offhand
21:43.26CyrezSword of Ogre Decapitation. SCHWAAAAAA!
21:43.47Temhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32651
21:44.07_raneanyone know addon that enables linking talent descriptions to chat?
21:44.17JoshBorkeerm, for 33 damage? o.O
21:44.29Finwell
21:44.33FinI'm not sure I totally agree
21:44.43Finfor a Shadow priest, I'd go for the Orb
21:44.46JoshBorkefor shadow priest, heroic badge reward is best
21:44.53Finthat's the one I mean
21:44.56JoshBorkeyea
21:45.02Temthere's a  heroic badge offhand?
21:45.20Temit must suck horribly for a mage because I don't remember even considering it
21:45.32JoshBorkeyes, it's all shadow damage
21:45.47Temoh!
21:45.49Temthe all damage ones
21:45.51Temyeah, go for that
21:45.56Fin+52 dmg or something
21:45.56Ozguliis there some addon to
21:45.58Finand stamina?
21:46.09Fin+18 sta
21:46.09TemI didn't consider them because I'm all pvp
21:46.16TemFin, don't think so
21:46.17JoshBorkei'm torn because i have enough badges to buy the offhand =/
21:46.19Temthey have no stats
21:46.20Ozgulilet people whisper me something like !enchant wrist and I'd spam them with my enchants for that part?
21:46.36JoshBorkeorb of the soul-eater: 18 sta, 51 shadow damage
21:46.41TemOzguli, yes.  Use your googlefu to help yourself.
21:47.01Ozguligooglefu spams me with useless crap sites that don't even work
21:47.10Finyeah, I'd upgrade your trinket first, if it was me
21:47.14JoshBorkewhich one?
21:47.37Finthe green one
21:47.44FinGlowing Crystal Insignia
21:47.49Finand go for the Heroic Badges one
21:47.56JoshBorkekk
21:48.15Finthe offhand, you'd gain around 30 shadow damage, but lose some int and +hit
21:48.24Finthe trinket is a straight upgrade
21:48.49JoshBorkeonly 9 more badges to go
21:48.52Temin the meantime, you can get the ogri'la offhand
21:49.02JoshBorkeyea, i'll work on ogri'la rep
21:49.03Temogri'la exalted is easy as hell
21:49.05Finwell shit, yeah you can do both at the same time :) heh
21:49.28FinI just do my 10 dailies every day for the 150g or whatever, exalted is incidental
21:49.31Finactually
21:49.37Temsame here
21:49.37Finyou know what, I just bought myself the Sky Guards' trinket
21:49.46FinI was wondering how good it was, I've seen a few people wearing it
21:49.52TemI love that trinket for when I'm doing banishing
21:49.55Finnot tried it out yet
21:50.07Temrapidfire kills with 80 extra spelldamage is <3
21:50.20Finyeah :)
21:50.23Temthough, I did my dailies for the shartuul kills.  <3 Shartuul
21:50.33Tembest solo content ever
21:50.43JoshBorkei'm revered and i have no idea how to do teh shartuul event, haven't even read anything about it
21:50.46FinI've only tried it once
21:50.55Zhinjiofarming 10 dailies for 150g still takes 2+ hours if you're doing netherwing stuff. I can earn more than that farming.
21:51.02FinI'm nervous about using up all my precious focus thingies
21:51.08Zhinjioand I already got the mount, so... don't need the rep either.
21:51.15FinI don't do all 10 now
21:51.19TemFin, I do it without using any
21:51.22FinI just do the really easy ones that don't involve any fighting
21:51.41Temit's designed to use 4, though
21:51.43Finoh? huh... maybe I'll save the focus thingies for saving my life then... interesting, thanks
21:51.44OrionshockZhinjio: your server must hate you
21:51.50Orionshocki can do my dailies in an hour
21:51.52Bejittcan Prat put error messages into chat?
21:52.04Finif you find a bug, sure!
21:52.05Finhah
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21:52.06Temto be able to do it without using any foci is "expect only"
21:52.09Zhinjioeven if I do them really early in the morning, the mines in nether are a freaking zoo.
21:52.31Zhinjioand forget about the ... whatever the tokens one was.
21:52.38Zhinjiothose flight paths are camped 24/7
21:52.39Finnetherwing relics
21:52.41Orionshockisn't there like 15 netherwing quests?
21:52.42Zhinjioright
21:52.53Temthe netherwing dailies suck balls
21:52.59TemI got my mount and never went back
21:53.13Zhinjioyeah.
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21:53.28TemI can do all 4 ogri'la dailies in 15 minutes
21:53.29ZhinjioI even did the races all the way through, which was about the only fun (if frustrating) part
21:53.34FinI normally go do the sky guards bombing, 5 minutes, fly to blade's edge, 4 minutes, do the bombing there + wrangling + simon says, 15 minutes
21:53.39Zhinjiothe ogri'la ones don't take as long, true.
21:54.00Finthen hearth and fly to netherwing for a little bit of boot
21:54.08Zhinjioif I'm farming well, and noone's interrupting me, I can make 150-200g/hr
21:54.09Tembooterang is easy
21:54.10Zhinjioso ... *shrug*
21:54.24Tembut I'd rather farm the trees in skettis
21:54.27Finyeah, but, you don't get any reputation and stuff
21:54.35Finthose trees are awesome
21:54.40ZhinjioI'm exalted with netherwing, skyguard and ogri'la
21:54.43FinI only found out about them recently
21:54.45TemI heard they're nerfing them
21:54.48Findidn't realise I could kill them
21:54.50Finawwww
21:54.51*** join/#wowace Cyrez (n=freakona@c-24-5-6-64.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
21:55.10TemI've got lik 60 primal life from farming them while watching tv
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21:55.12Temit's so mindless
21:55.16Finin that case Zhinjio, you sound like agriculture definitely suits you more
21:55.30Zhinjioheheheee
21:55.32ZhinjioIndeed.
21:56.10Zhinjiothe next couple patches are going to open up ALOT more dailies though, so we'll see after that
21:56.16Zhinjiofishing, cooking, blah blah blah
21:56.24Finthat'll be nice
21:56.32TemI never leveled cooking
21:56.36Finno way!
21:56.39Fincooking's awesome!
21:56.41TemI'm a mage
21:56.45TemI make my own food and water
21:56.46JoshBorkecookie is nice
21:56.51ZhinjioI wonder if they're going to update the cap on dailies (allow more per day, I mean)
21:56.55JoshBorkemage food < buff food
21:56.59Temwell yea
21:57.00Fin+200 health and a bunch of spirit permanently? or +23 spell damage?
21:57.01Zhinjioyeah, I never levelld cooking on my mage either.
21:57.04Tembut I did'nt know about that back then
21:57.10JoshBorkeZhinjio: doubtful
21:57.19TemZhinjio, they're not changing the daily cap anytime soon
21:57.22Tem(if ever)
21:57.31Zhinjioyeah, I was hopeful, but suspecting it wouldn't
21:57.33TemI'm looking forward to the dungeon and battleground dailies
21:57.34Finwould be a bit crazy otherwise I reckon
21:57.52Zhinjiothey do need more of them though. the population running the current ones is just too dense.
21:57.57Tem4k honor for the battleground dailies!
21:58.11FinI like the idea of putting more herbs and ore spawn points in instances
21:58.18Fin4k!
21:58.20Finfuck!
21:58.24TemI know!
21:58.31Temgoing to suck for alliance ><
21:58.39TemI used to not care about losing every bg
21:58.41Finis that in addition to doing the BGs themselves?
21:58.44ZhinjioI sent pkekyo my fraps of my pally farming. Not sure fi he ever watched it tho
21:58.45Zhinjioheh
21:58.45Temin addition
21:58.51Finlordy lummy loo
21:59.10Ozgulialliance loses 70% of all BGs except AV in my battlegroup
21:59.16CIA-703gagorian * r53403 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/SoulJarFu.lua:
21:59.16CIA-7FuBar_SoulJarFu:
21:59.16CIA-7- Bugfix for certain situations where the timer could be wrong when others cast a soulstone on you
21:59.22Temit's like that everywhere, Ozguli
21:59.58Finthe horrible thing about alliance on my server was always the 10 minute queues
21:59.59Ozgulibut we win the alterac valley like nine out of ten
22:00.00PkekyoZhinjio: lost the link :p
22:00.04Finhorde side is like, within seconds
22:00.09Zhinjioawww.. ok. hang on.
22:00.19Ozguliespecially now when it's the weekend :P
22:00.38Ozguliinstant spot, 15 minutes for 500-600 honor and another
22:00.45Zhinjiohttp://hosted.filefront.com/Zhinjio
22:00.53Zhinjiojust one thing up there. Note: 81M.
22:00.54PkekyoZhinjio: not gonna have me xtremely impressed though, I was hoping for a protwarrior farming :p
22:01.00Zhinjioawwww.
22:01.06Zhinjioyeah, thats a different ballgame3.
22:01.19Pkekyo(I just happen to be one of those poor souls)
22:01.34Pkekyowas looking to pick up a few tricks
22:01.38FinI used to be, pre-TBC
22:01.44Pkekyobut meh, you rolled the wrong class Zhinjio :p
22:01.53Finthe "trick" is to use your daily money to respec constantly
22:01.56Temnon-epic land mount?
22:01.57Finthat's what I do with my priest
22:01.58Temlol?
22:02.07Zhinjiowell, given that a prot warrior can't farm that plateau, I'm not so sure thats true.
22:02.10Zhinjio*grin*
22:02.25Finget your fishing to 375
22:02.29PkekyoFin: tried that, can't keep up with the respecc cost on my limited time
22:02.39FinPkekyo: bumholes
22:02.48PkekyoFin: no, thank you, I'm driving!
22:02.49Temlol@ parrot freezes
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22:04.17Pkekyotuts?
22:04.30Finit's an onomatopeia
22:04.31*** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@85-124-180-50.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at)
22:04.44Finit's the verb for making a sound like "tch"
22:04.55Finit's not a very *good* onomatopeia
22:05.16Pkekyogo figure...
22:05.22TemZhinjio, I don't play a pally so you'll have to fill me in.  Where is the lifegain coming from here?
22:05.33Pkekyo'BADABOOOOOOOOOOOOOM' is a*good* onomatopeia
22:05.36Zhinjiofiguring of the colossus
22:05.46Zhinjioit heals me for 120 every time I block for 20 seconeds
22:05.53Zhinjioand I'm blocking ALOT
22:05.56PkekyoI've always found 'BADABOOOM' to be full of win and awesome tbh :)
22:06.02Fincock blocking?
22:06.06Finsorry
22:06.10Zhinjiofigurine, rather
22:06.24Temoh I see
22:06.25Pkekyofingering the colossus? O.o
22:06.27Pkekyokinky
22:06.38Temfigurine, jackass
22:06.46Zhinjiobut, there's been a few times when I haven't needed to use it. with the damage reduction at 30% health, I can *almost* stay up without using it.
22:06.50Finare we playing word association
22:06.53Fin+?
22:06.58PkekyoFin: looks like it
22:07.07PkekyoI'm giving it a go anyways
22:07.10Finbottom
22:07.18Pkekyobottle?
22:07.18Fin(quick! respond!)
22:07.26Fincoca cola
22:07.31Pkekyodeath and anguish
22:07.34Shiriklol
22:07.41Finone flew over the cuckoo's nest
22:07.49Temratchet
22:07.51Pkekyonew engineering mount
22:07.53Finpvp
22:07.57Pkekyogank
22:07.59Orionshockdidn't they fix it to where if u had max skinning it wouldn't give you scraps?
22:08.06Finbeer
22:08.13Pkekyoyesplease?
22:08.30Finyou have passed! please go directly to go, collecting 200g on the way.
22:08.40Pkekyololswut?
22:08.54Finit was bad monopoly reference
22:09.18Findidn't really work, because you don't actually go to go, you just go to jail, and don't pass go, collecting 200 UKP
22:09.19Pkekyoyeah, I thought so, but it was so extremely bad I discarded the notion
22:09.30PkekyoUKP
22:09.32Pkekyo?
22:09.41FinI can't do the pound sign on this keyboard, easily
22:10.01Orionshockshift 4
22:10.06Pkekyo£?
22:10.10FinUKP is the currently code for Pounds Sterling
22:10.16Finthe Queen's tender
22:10.20PkekyoOrionshock: ph4il!!!!! it's alt-gr+3
22:10.39Finneither work for me
22:10.39PkekyoFinthe Queen's tender <---- we still playing word association? :p
22:10.43OrionshockEU ppl
22:11.09FinPkekyo: ... they were waiting for the Queen's legs to open so they could go for a drink and get pissed up!
22:11.31Fin(the rest of the joke's terrible, I did you a favour by skipping to the punchline)
22:11.59Pkekyodon't worry, it's allready TOO MUCH INFO
22:13.12PkekyoZhinjio: still around?
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22:14.11Finwhy thank you for asking! it's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLVsIpejFgM
22:14.21*** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk)
22:15.29FinNOW YOU VIL BE LAFFINK AT THE JOKES!
22:15.50PkekyoFisker-: err?
22:16.05Pkekyoif you really want it that bad, you could've just asked
22:16.35XelopherisIs the dogtag IsPlayer mean specifically the player, or a player-character?
22:16.39XelopherisDoes*
22:16.48Fina player-character
22:16.53FinI believe
22:16.59Xelopherisk k
22:17.01Finthere's about a 50/50 chance I'm wrong, though
22:17.14Finyou might want to just flip a coin actually rather than listen to me
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22:17.25XelopherisSo [~IsPlayer:SmartClass] wouldn't return the paladin/warrior/mage BS for mobs
22:17.27Pkekyolol, quite the matemathician, aren't we, Fin?
22:17.36Finwell it could land on its side
22:17.52Fisker-sorry for not asking
22:17.56FinXelopheris: there's an easy way to find out, no? *I'm* pretty sure I'm right, though
22:18.08Finbut thank you, Pkekyo, that's nice of you
22:18.38PkekyoFisker-: what's with the sudden violence and hostility?
22:18.55Xelopheriswould be nice if the dogtag wiki were written better
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22:19.18FinXelopheris: did you know
22:19.27FinXelopheris: there's this fascinating feature of wikis
22:19.50FinXelopheris: get ready to have your mind BLOWN AWAY - but you know what? YOU can edit yourself! yes! you can!
22:19.58Fin:P
22:20.00nymbialies
22:20.11Fisker-i'm always violent and hostile
22:20.15XelopherisThere's this other mind fascinating thing about wikis where, if you're not sure about something, you don't touch it :)
22:20.16Finbut I'm so convincing?
22:20.16Fisker-nymbia don't speak out of turn
22:20.39Finbut, Xelopheris, you are currently in the process of learning about something, yes?
22:20.39nymbia:(
22:20.45Fisker-:)
22:21.01Fisker-winrar is me
22:21.03Fisker-now i must sleep though
22:21.07Finthat's awesome that the wiki's going to be updated as soon as you get it figured out
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22:21.28FinI am saying this with a twinkle in my eye and a skip in my step
22:21.40FinI am not a postman, for anyone who gets the reference
22:21.43Finor milkman
22:22.06PkekyoFin: can't answer your PM, registered the nick but can't remember the password :p
22:22.17Finoh
22:22.26Finwell never mind then, it's not important
22:22.31Finbut still, damn you
22:22.54Pkekyolol
22:22.59Pkekyonothing major :>
22:23.06Finnow! I must forage
22:23.24Pkekyowtb plutonium power supply for this fucking laptop
22:25.48ZhinjioI'm bkac, Pkekyo.
22:25.52Zhinjioer, back.
22:26.10PkekyoZhinjio: impressive grinding
22:26.13Pkekyoand scary UI
22:26.25Pkekyowhat are the two frames on your left? (seem to be tracking rep/qitems and stuff)
22:26.46Zhinjioah yeah.
22:26.48Pkekyohttp://pkekyo.deviantart.com/art/Let-there-be-light-68222713 anyone got an idea on how to remove the graphical noise in this photo?
22:26.51ZhinjioFactionGringer
22:26.54Zhinjioer, Grinder
22:27.24Pkekyoso it's rep only?
22:27.37Zhinjioyes.
22:27.42Pkekyolooked kinda pewpew
22:27.45Pkekyobut of no use to me then
22:27.58Zhinjioits also outdated. It doesn't know (for example) about the new values for Timbermaw items
22:28.03Zhinjiobut ... I like it.
22:28.15ZhinjioI actually don't use it now since I got exalted with scryer
22:28.25Zhinjio(those guys drop rings + tomes)
22:28.26Pkekyowtb scryer exalted
22:28.31Pkekyoneed the shoulder enchant :<
22:28.39Zhinjioyupyup.
22:28.49Pkekyoyou protspecced, no?
22:28.57kenlyricactually, you can buy that.
22:29.17Zhinjiooh hell yes. that wouldn't work unless I was.
22:29.20Pkekyokenlyric: hmm?
22:29.28kenlyricyou said you wtb scryer exalted.
22:29.30kenlyricyou can buy that.
22:29.31PkekyoI better rent myself a prot pala then
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22:29.38Pkekyokenlyric: not with my supply of gold
22:30.03Pkekyowhat's with people looking to run with draconic fps levels like 60-100fps anyways?
22:30.29kenlyricwith my 6600 i'm happy above 10.
22:30.58ZhinjioI'm probably going to redo my UI again soon. Not sure what I'm going to change just yet though
22:31.02ZhinjioI get bored too quickly
22:31.02Zhinjioheh
22:31.17ZhinjioPkekyo: why do you think its scary?
22:31.32Pkekyoit's just.... "BADABOOOOOMINYOURFACEKEKEKEKEKEK"
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22:33.07ZhinjioI'm fairly certain I have no idea what that means. I'll just accept that you think its scary.
22:33.20Pkekyohaha
22:33.25Ellipsis...you guys are so strange
22:33.25Pkekyoit's just extremely massive
22:34.28PkekyoEllipsis: no u :<
22:34.46CIA-703nymbia 07dev * r53404 10PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1/PeriodicTable-3.1.lua:
22:34.46CIA-7PeriodicTable-3.1:
22:34.46CIA-7- a fix or two
22:36.07EllipsisPkekyo: no u!
22:36.21CorganIt's a shame you can't store variable across the whole computer rather than account/character
22:36.29Corganvariables*
22:36.33PkekyoEllipsis: no u :<
22:36.36Ellipsisyou can sorta hack it to work, Corgan
22:36.40Pkekyo"Grow old, or die trying!"
22:36.56CorganI would love an addon that tracks my inventory on all my characters, across my 3 accounts
22:37.00Corganinventory/bank
22:37.05Ellipsissylvanaar made a post about how to load SVs from another account
22:37.18Fin[23:26:58] <Pkekyo> http://pkekyo.deviantart.com/art/Let-there-be-light-68222713 anyone got an idea on how to remove the graphical noise in this photo?
22:37.20Corganreally...
22:37.22Ellipsisyeah
22:37.23Finhey, pretty!
22:37.49Finsylvanaar has a sick and twisted brain
22:37.50Pkekyois the pretty comment related to the photo comment?
22:37.55Finyes
22:37.57CorganI've never worked with LUA...I may have to get into it and hack together an addon :o
22:38.01Pkekyothanks then :>
22:38.03Wogroiplis there an ace addon that tells me what a certain beast can teachme if I train it?
22:38.08Pkekyonow help me get rid of the fucking noise
22:38.40Finsharpen?
22:38.57Fingraphics are a strange land, where monsters roam
22:39.02Pkekyoheheh
22:39.10Zhinjiowhat're you using, photoshop?
22:39.15Pkekyoay
22:39.15Pkekyoe
22:39.20Pkekyothere are blue/red pixels everywhere on it that I want _gone_
22:39.21Zhinjiodo you have fastphotofix?
22:39.47Pkekyommmmaybe?
22:40.47Zhinjioits a quick filter that does about 9 different quick photo repair things. but you can just do the "remove noise" part and get rid of artifacts
22:40.54Pkekyohowtoget?
22:40.55Zhinjiothe color balancing is really nice too.
22:40.59Zhinjioum. hmm.
22:41.00nogudnikWogroipl: try http://fizzwidget.com/huntershelper/
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22:41.20ZhinjioI honestly don't knwo where I got it.
22:41.21nogudnikIt's not Ace, but it work very well.
22:41.31Zhinjiooh, wait, its default in Paint Shop Pro, which is what I've been using recently.
22:41.42ZhinjioI guess I just assumed photoshop would have something similar.
22:41.51Pkekyonoes
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22:42.34Zhinjiomeh. sorry.
22:43.55Pkekyomeh, I ought to stop taking photos with these mammoth resolutions
22:44.21Pkekyo2448 by 3264px? fucksake, what on earth would I need that for?
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22:45.36Orionshockb/c ur crazy?
22:45.58PkekyoI ran photoshop's noise filter now, and it did nothing but remove color on the noise pixels and blur out lightsources
22:45.59Pkekyomeh!
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22:51.21ZealotOnAStickFunkeh` [Ammo] or vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/76088
22:51.40kenlyricbecause you might want prints?
22:51.54Pkekyokenlyric: not with that much noise, I don't :p
22:52.20Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick, Thats not our addon
22:52.42Funkeh`Are you using the module in naxxramas?
22:53.15CIA-703pettigrow * r53405 10CowTip/ (9 files in 8 dirs): CowTip: frFR Update
22:53.55kenlyricyou know what, I want find a hardware review site, particularly for mobo/cpu, that doesn't rate everything by how easily it can be overclocked.
22:55.12kebinusanwhat else matters
22:55.30nevcairielstability
22:55.40nevcairielfeatureset
22:55.45Gngskyes, stability while overclocked!
22:59.48CIA-703funkydude * r53406 10BigWigs_LoathebTactical/BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua: BigWigs_LoathebTactical: bugfix
23:00.13Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick, there
23:01.45Kaydeethreenew PTR up! current build: 7485. diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/
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23:02.49Funkeh`Kaydeethree, rock more?
23:03.19Kaydeethreemh. would've put it up yesterday but I was ~250 mi away from my computer
23:04.08Funkeh`seems they done a lot of guild bank work
23:04.25Kaydeethreenecessarily, it was breaking a lot of clients in the last build
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23:08.59FinTem?
23:09.19Finoh, gone
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23:12.19Zhinjiotheory question: is there some level of INefficiency in using the self.db.profile... values directly vs creating some local to work with, and then just updating the settings once there "commits" to that data?
23:12.42Finwell
23:12.59Finas far as I know, sort of
23:13.11Findon't use it in loops
23:14.06Fin[23:26:58] <Pkekyo> http://pkekyo.deviantart.com/art/Let-there-be-light-68222713 anyone got an idea on how to remove the graphical noise in this photo?
23:14.09Finsorry
23:14.11Finoops!
23:14.15FinI meant to paste this: http://wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips
23:14.27Zhinjiopkekyo, I could use my filter and send it back to you?
23:14.54ZhinjioI'll take a look, Fin. thanks.
23:15.03PkekyoZhinjio: would be great...PM me with an email I can send you the original photo on?
23:15.26HjaltePkekyo: Haha.. Bright ideas. Haha.
23:15.36ZealotOnAStickwhich graphical noise specifically are you referring to?
23:15.37PkekyoHjalte: err?
23:15.46ZealotOnAStickand do you have a the full-size original, or a craw?
23:15.49HjaltePkekyo: On your deviantart site :)
23:16.00ZealotOnAStickI've got a shiteload of filters and post-processing tools.
23:16.03PkekyoZealotOnAStick: if you look closely, you can see several blue or red pixels around the photo
23:16.03PkekyoI -do- have the full size original
23:16.10Pkekyo2.4k by 3.2k px or something
23:16.32ZealotOnASticknice shot, btw.
23:16.40Pkekyothanks :)
23:17.24Zhinjioyeah, it really is.
23:18.28ZealotOnAStickif it's just specific spots, and not all over, spotlifter would be good.
23:19.41PkekyoZhinjio, ZealotOnAStick: mail should be sent in 30-40 sec or so
23:19.57Gngsklol, gong banging is awesome
23:20.07PkekyoGngsk: wrong channel?
23:21.05Pkekyomeh, sending takes much time :<
23:21.28Pkekyolol, forgot I had torrents active >.<
23:21.34Pkekyoshould be quicker now :)
23:22.35Pkekyostill not sent, fucksake....I need to take lower res photos :p
23:22.59Pkekyo?
23:23.14Fintwo bits bad, four bits good!
23:23.22Pkekyo^^
23:30.00PkekyoZhinjio / ZealotOnAStick gotten the mail yet?
23:32.38RaydenUniwhy do hunters do so much damage?
23:32.44RaydenUnithey can dps, tank, and cc
23:34.34PkekyoRaydenUni: sounds like a warlock to me?
23:34.44RaydenUnihmm
23:34.52RaydenUniyeah
23:35.01RaydenUnibut hunter CC seems to be more common
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23:35.54RaydenUniit just seems odd that a hunter should so easily do so much CC
23:35.57RaydenUnier DPS
23:36.07RaydenUniwhen running 5 mans the hunters always out dps'd me
23:36.16RaydenUniwhat is their end game raiding dps like?
23:38.11vhaarrhunters are very different, but if you have a good one he can match rogues on dps at gruul/ssc item levels
23:41.02Droolioanyone know of square minimap addons other than squeenix and simpleminimap, off the top of their head?
23:41.28Gngskoblong minimpa
23:42.19Droolioplease say you're joking :)
23:42.31RaydenUniprogrammers have a great sense of humor
23:42.37RaydenUniso i'd believe it
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23:48.40Ra1d3nlike "there are 10 kinds of people, those who know binary and those who don't" ?
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23:52.53Ra1d3n:o)
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23:54.35PkekyoZhinjio and ZealotOnAStick: the mail has finally been sent! :)
23:55.23ZealotOnASticki want like Diamond Minimap.
23:55.32ZealotOnAStickwhich would just be a square minimap rotated
23:56.23Pkekyocan't be -that hard- to do
23:57.51Pkekyohttp://fc01.deviantart.com/fs21/f/2007/301/c/e/With_a_twist_of_the_blade_by_Pkekyo.jpg interesting methinks O.o
23:57.51Pkekyosadly not full of win and awesome though
23:57.54Findiamonds are actually known for being very hard
23:58.04PkekyoFin: thank you, captain obvious!
23:58.10FinI live to serve
23:58.17Pkekyorofl
23:58.36CIA-7037destiny * r53407 10TradeBar/ (TradeBar.toc locale-koKR.lua):
23:58.36CIA-7TradeBar:
23:58.36CIA-7- add koKR locale (by crim9591)
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