IRC log for #wowace on 20071022

00:00.12ProvusHow do you make something you've disabled in Pitbull reappear?
00:00.59NightHawkTheSan1what is "something"?
00:01.06ProvusParty's targets for instance.
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00:01.20ProvusI disabled it, and the option disappeared, and there doesn't appear to be a way to re-enable it now.
00:01.21RLD_osxwhat is it with popups in prat that causes game to crash when in a group or raid
00:01.28NightHawkTheSan1There's an extra unit's menu in the options
00:01.34NightHawkTheSan1s/unit's/units/
00:01.57ProvusI don't see an extra units menu, just an all units menu..
00:02.03ProvusWait there it is
00:03.22ZhinjioOk, what font do people like coding in. fixed with only, please
00:04.30NightHawkTheSan1Zhinjio: I'm a fan of ProFont (google it), but there's a number of good ones
00:04.44NightHawkTheSan1you could probably search for coding fonts and come up with some good ones
00:05.18Funkeh`later
00:05.59GnarfozZhinjio: Consolas <3
00:06.39Orionshockhehe.. got they magic broom
00:07.47Orionshock*the
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00:08.00durcynwhich?  there are kind of four, you se
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00:08.18NightHawkTheSan1well, there's two flying brooms, and two magic brooms. :P
00:08.20Orionshockepic land
00:08.29Orionshockand there are 5 mounts total
00:08.39NightHawkTheSan1true, if you count the rickety bropom
00:08.48Orionshockit's a legit mount :D
00:10.15NightHawkTheSan1well, so's your mom. ;)
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00:20.16CIA-1203kemayo * r52826 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua:
00:20.16CIA-12Quixote:
00:20.16CIA-12-Add API: num, numComplete = GetNumQuestObjectives(quest)
00:20.16CIA-12-Add API: num, numComplete = GetNumPartyQuestObjectives(name, quest)
00:21.29CIA-1203gamefaq * r52827 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Prototype.lua): BigWigs: deDE Update
00:23.04CIA-1203kemayo * r52828 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
00:23.04CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
00:23.04CIA-12-PartyNotify and PlayerNotify: Don't notify of the final objective objective completion in a quest if quest completion notification is enabled.
00:23.04CIA-12-PartyNotify: Add option to not show quest names
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00:34.50ZhinjioSansMono 12pt Bold is darn near perfect. It does not, however, have /'s through zeroes, which I prefer.
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00:43.12OrionshockLOLz Pally in our group got the HH Plate Healm
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00:45.42NightHawkTheSan1and?
00:45.58Orionshocki find it odd
00:46.06Orionshockthat and he ninjaed the caster ring too
00:46.27NightHawkTheSan1"ninjad"? the rings drop so often it's not as if it's difficult to get all three
00:46.46XelopherisI have all three on three chars :)
00:46.51NightHawkTheSan1^^
00:46.52Orionshockwe got the healer ring 3 times in a row
00:47.08XelopherisI also have the helm on my hunter
00:47.14Xelopherissince we had no plate wearer
00:49.26the-golemeven I got the caster ring
00:49.33the-golemand im a warrior ^^
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00:51.16Pkekyothere' not sense crying over every mistake
00:51.16Pkekyoyou just keep on trying till you run out of cake
00:51.32the-golem...
00:51.34the-golemcake
00:51.37the-golemi want some cake!
00:51.53kebinusanAnd the science gets done and you make a neat gun for the people who are still alive
00:52.30PkekyoYou've just got to love a power-pop tune sung by an evil supercomputer about 'being alive' :>
00:53.56PkekyoMaybe you'll find someone else to help you.
00:53.56PkekyoMaybe Black Mesa
00:53.56PkekyoTHAT WAS A JOKE.
00:53.56PkekyoHAHA. FAT CHANCE.
00:53.56PkekyoAnyway, this cake is great.
00:53.56PkekyoIt's so delicious and moist.
00:54.12Pkekyooh I love it...I've got to run through portal again!
00:54.41Xinhuancaek > pie
00:54.55Pkekyoagreed!
00:55.18CIA-1203kemayo * r52829 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PartyNotify/PartyNotify.lua:
00:55.18CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
00:55.18CIA-12-PartyNotify: local quixote
00:58.08NightHawkTheSan1Hmm
00:58.29NightHawkTheSan1I'm thinking 255 characters just isn't enough for an all-in-one-travel/flight/aquatic/mount macro for druids
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01:01.47ToadkillerCheck out the one in AutoBar for druid travel...  still missing mounts but thats coming soon
01:02.27ToadkillerThe
01:02.29Toadkillerlocal macroText = "/cast [mounted,outdoors] Black War Kodo; [swimming] Aquatic Form; [stance:1] Dire Bear Form; [stance:2] Aquatic Form; [stance:3] Cat Form;  [stance:5] Tree of Life;  [flyable] Swift Flight Form; [outdoors] Travel Form"
01:03.03ToadkillerThats roughly it & the cancel stuff can be a lot more compact.
01:03.11fitz__yeah, like, "/cancelform" ?
01:03.12fitz__:)
01:03.23Toadkillerexactly.  ill be adding that sometime when i have time
01:03.39Toadkilleralso /dismount
01:03.42kebinusanhmm why does rosterlib baloon to 4.8 mib
01:04.30Toadkillergood question but it would explain some recent login into raid slowdowns I have had...
01:04.40ProvusArgh.
01:05.00ProvusI knew Flexbar2 had some compatibility issues with macros but this is ridiculous.
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01:05.27Solehi guys
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01:16.18Korbenhey
01:16.31Korbencould someone help me with a Scaling issue
01:17.29NightHawkTheSan1"You do NOT need inertial dampeners while you SINK!"
01:17.49Toadkillerhow fast are you sinking?
01:18.13ToadkillerIs morale low?  Perhaps dampening out that sinking feeling will help?
01:18.34NightHawkTheSan1you need to brush up on your inane and pointless sg:a quotes, boy
01:19.09ToadkillerWas thaT Rodney?
01:19.42NightHawkTheSan1yes
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01:20.44NightHawkTheSan1"Do you even have an opinion anyways? ... No.. because you're an inanimate object, but does that stop me from talking to you? OH NO my inanimate friend! Because I have been struck upon the head!"
01:21.23starlondropped on your head's more like it
01:21.46kenlyricslow cat is slow?
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01:24.04ZhinjioAh, Consolas 12 pt bold has the /'s through the zeroes. now that I can dig.
01:29.52GnarfozNightHawkTheSan1: s04e04? worth watching at all?
01:30.17GnarfozZhinjio: all sizes have that? :>
01:30.19NightHawkTheSan1Gnarfoz: yeah, it's good.
01:30.43NightHawkTheSan1although to be sure, i've  been quoting 2x14
01:30.48GnarfozI read it was mostly an homage to sg-1 1x07, cold lazarus, where jack gets copied by some crystal thingy
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01:31.05GnarfozNightHawkTheSan1: heh of course =)
01:31.06NightHawkTheSan1it very largely is
01:31.14NightHawkTheSan1but it's still a decent episode
01:31.15ElgrimHello there modders
01:31.20ElgrimI got a question
01:32.15ElgrimAnyone got a suggestion for how to hide blizzards bottom bar? and all elements on it? I use CT_bottombar for this but I feel CT interfer with alot of things and wonder if there is something that just hide the bar
01:32.32Elgrimwithout giving me all the CT options and stuff I dont really want
01:33.05JoshBorkewhat does it interfere with?
01:33.22Elgrimwell it doesnt give me any problems at all. CT is working great im sure
01:33.48ElgrimI just feel its unnecceary to bring in a big main mod like that just to hide the bottom bar
01:34.14GnarfozElgrim: from BT3: MainMenuBarArtFrame:Hide()  MainMenuBar:Hide()
01:34.34Elgrimah so its in BT, thank you
01:34.44Gnarfozyeah, it is
01:34.45Elgrimi use BT anyway so. i guess i can just skip CT now
01:34.46Elgrimty mate
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01:40.31ZhinjioI hate the way the default button template looks when it is "stretched" to a different button size.
01:40.34Zhinjioblah
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01:41.40SaranaToadkiller, I was just looking at your latest version of AutoBar and I noticed something that might be a issue in the AutoBar:MoveButton function in AutoBarOptions.lua.
01:42.09SaranaI'm guessing you used fromBarKey instead of toBarKey in a couple places, though I might be misreading the code.
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01:50.38ZhinjioI want to test for the existence of a variable
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01:50.56Zhinjioso... is if ( SKG.db.char.SecurityOpts.Proxy ) then
01:51.00Gnarfozif variable then dostuff end
01:51.05CIA-1203kemayo * r52830 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PartyNotify/PartyNotify.lua:
01:51.05CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
01:51.05CIA-12-PartyNotify: fix error calling GetNumPartyQuestObjectives
01:51.08Zhinjiothat just checks true/false, no?
01:51.19Gnarfoznon-existant variables are nil
01:51.22Gnarfozand nil is false
01:51.34Gnarfozif I'm not misinformed, which I might well be :D
01:51.41Zhinjiohmm. ok
01:52.01Zhinjioif the normal "assigned" value is a string, how will that behave?
01:52.29Zhinjiothat won't test "true", will it?
01:52.43SaranaBTW If you want to avoid treated false as unset though you might use variable ~= nil
01:52.48Nargiddleynil and false are false, everything else is true
01:52.58Zhinjiook.
01:53.02Zhinjioexcellent.
01:53.04Zhinjiothanks
01:54.05Gnarfozlua> local a="blah"; if a then print("blah!") end; if b then print("stuff") else print("foo") end;
01:54.05cladbotGnarfoz: blah!, foo
01:59.13RaydenUnicyclistwhat do you guys use to store item store prices?
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02:00.44RaydenUnicyclistalso what to compare items?
02:00.47RaydenUnicyclisteqcompare is abandoned
02:01.29art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/zim-mini.jpg
02:04.21Elgrimok, hello guys. I have a problem with fubar2. I change my fontsize and all's fine. Till I restart the game and it all pop up on original size again (the value in the editbox is still smaller tho). As soon as I change back and forth on the editbox its correct again.
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02:04.41ElgrimProblem is it moves all my other frames when fubar becomes too high
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02:07.06ArrowmasterRaydenUnicyclist: tekkcompare
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02:08.10RaydenUnicyclistk
02:09.57RaydenUnicyclistwhat is the mod that gives you quest info on the side?
02:10.00RaydenUnicyclistin a new frame?
02:10.04RaydenUnicyclistwell, double wide frame
02:10.16RaydenUnicyclistdoublewide? :P
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02:12.33durcynElgrim: 2 is no longer being developed, use 3
02:12.40CIA-1203xinhuan * r52831 10/branches/WoWEquip/ (WoWEquipData.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Splitting up the data and localization - Part 4.
02:13.32Gnarfozart3mis: where can I learn Blessing of Demonstration? :p
02:13.37Elgrimfubar3?
02:13.44Elgrimits on the site? cant find it
02:15.18Gnarfozit's simply called 'FuBar'
02:15.30GnarfozFuBar2 is actually older than FuBar, which is kind of confusing
02:15.41RaydenUnicyclisti just downloaded tekCompare and wow says it is out of date :P
02:15.55RaydenUnicyclisti have fubar 3.0...
02:15.56Ellipsisso check the little box
02:16.01Gnarfozwho cares if it works -.- poke Tekkub if he wants to update the TOC
02:16.19Tekkubmeh?
02:16.23RaydenUnicyclisti don't care
02:16.25RaydenUnicyclistas long as it works
02:16.40Elgrimah
02:16.43RaydenUnicyclistwhen you make a mod you specify a patch #, is that how it checks?
02:16.44Elgrimi get "fubar" then :D
02:16.46Elgrimnot fubar 2
02:17.02TekkubI don't do TOC updates unless I "have" to (patch 2.0)
02:17.12RaydenUnicyclistTOC?
02:17.16CIA-1203bashui * r52832 10CatPoints/ (CatDPS-2.2.lua CatDPS.lua CatPoints.lua test.lua):
02:17.16CIA-12CatPoints:
02:17.16CIA-12- Updated the haste to match the latest calculator
02:17.16CIA-12- fixed a lot of stuff.
02:17.21Gnarfozyeah, that's what the checkbox is there for :>
02:17.27RaydenUnicyclistwhat does it stand for?
02:17.31Gnarfoztable of contents
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02:19.55Comxx~Seen Antiarc
02:19.59purlantiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (20h 7m 15s) #wowace (20h 7m 15s), last said: 'http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/1/ipv45.png'.
02:22.22ElgrimAnyone know how to remove the healthbar beneath the  Tooltip?
02:22.36ElgrimOr a preferable tooltip mod
02:23.18ComxxCowtip
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02:23.50ElgrimDoes it allow me to remove the healthbar?
02:24.48CIA-1203yhwh * r52833 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (25 files in 13 dirs):
02:24.48CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
02:24.48CIA-12- add zhCN
02:25.36ComxxYes i changes your tooltips adn you can remove the Healthbar
02:26.28Comxx~seen nogudnik
02:26.29purlnogudnik <n=nogudnik@mail.exiter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 6h 55m 42s ago, saying: 'Eeek! I guess it's like photocopying a mirror, you could go back in time'.
02:29.15AntiarcLawls, akama.
02:29.17AntiarcEasiest fight ever
02:29.41ComxxWoot Antiarc i here =)
02:29.56Comxxis*
02:30.43Comxxhey Antiarc may i updat hemlock .toc file for 2.2 ?
02:30.50AntiarcOh, it's not updated?
02:30.52AntiarcSure, go for it.
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02:31.56CIA-1203bashui * r52834 10CatPoints/CatPoints.toc:
02:31.56CIA-12CatPoints:
02:31.56CIA-12- Updated toc
02:32.23NightHawkTheSan1"I got the drones, got a few jumpers, and I even got the girl." "You got the girl?" "Well, I mean, i could have got the girl. I turned her down."
02:34.16ElgrimComxx
02:34.21Elgrimthanks alot, they'r great
02:34.28ComxxNp =)
02:34.45Elgrimhum
02:34.50Elgrimone more thing
02:34.56Comxxk
02:35.11Elgrimthere is a library with aditional textures to the ace mods. Like armory bars for pitbull unitframes
02:35.21Elgrimalways used them, and now I dont seem to find them on the site
02:35.34CIA-1203comxx * r52835 10Hemlock/Hemlock.toc:
02:35.34CIA-12Hemlock:
02:35.34CIA-12- Update .toc for patch 2.2
02:35.40durcynElgrim: that'd be SharedMedia
02:35.41nymbiaElgrim: sharedmedia
02:35.57Comxxyea ^ what they said lol
02:36.04Elgrimah
02:36.19Elgrimthanks
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02:38.41CIA-1203bashui * r52836 10CatPoints/CatPoints.toc:
02:38.41CIA-12CatPoints:
02:38.41CIA-12- Changed notes,
02:40.21ComxxI wish I could find out what mod is makeing hemlock only make 2 Posions at a time. =\
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02:42.37ElgrimGuys, the SharedMedia doesnt seem to give me those options
02:42.44pakozHey
02:43.07KeiasElgrim
02:43.12KeiasMake sure it's "Shared Media"
02:43.15Elgrimhttp://files.wowace.com/SharedMediaLib/SharedMediaLib-r49704.1.zip Is this the correct file?
02:43.17Keiasand not just "SharedMediaLibrary
02:43.18Keiaswrong
02:43.19Keiaslol
02:43.22Elgrimdamn
02:43.24KeiasThere's two different ones
02:43.26Elgrim:P
02:43.27KeiasOne is a library
02:43.35Keiasand the other contains the actual textures/fonts
02:43.56Elgrimok
02:44.04CIA-1203toadkiller * r52837 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
02:44.04CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
02:44.04CIA-12-- Broom mounts, some BE quest items.
02:44.05Elgrimnow lets hope I did nothing wrong this time
02:44.32ComxxElgrim http://files.wowace.com/SharedMedia
02:46.39CIA-1203chexsum * r52838 10CombatAlert/ (CombatAlert.lua readme.txt):
02:46.39CIA-12CombatAlert:
02:46.39CIA-12- Added slightly better unit id checking
02:46.39CIA-12- Added wildcard support to filters
02:47.21NightHawkTheSan1hm,there needs to be a better interface for baggins_anywherebags
02:48.38ToadkillerSarana: Tx, sometimes my cut & paste ways slip through stuff like that.
02:50.18CIA-1203kemayo * r52839 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PartyNotify/PartyNotify.lua:
02:50.18CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
02:50.18CIA-12- PartyNotify: *actually* fix error from last commit.
02:51.12SaranaNo problem, I make the same type of mistakes myself.
02:51.57Toadkillerart3mis: Did you dl the latest cyCircled + latest AutoBar?
02:52.29Toadkillercryogen: Yeah, I will be moving stuff into separate bars soon
02:54.20GnarfozComxx: if all else fails: binary search. disable half of your addons, try again. if it's still failing, disable half of the remaining addons, try again. etc etc. :p
02:54.58Comxxdone all that =P
02:55.23Comxxthat what Antiarc told me to do =)
02:55.36Gnarfozweird then
02:58.36ComxxManufac did it for abit but now they fixed it some how.
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03:04.10Zhinjiois there a way to prevent the button templates textures from stretching like that or is that just how it works?
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03:12.36Orionshockboo eqcompare isn't working any more :((
03:18.40Arrowmastereqcompare has been broken since 2.0
03:19.11Arrowmasterand completely abandoned since before 2.0 too
03:19.13Orionshockwas working for a long time for me
03:19.24Arrowmasternever got updated though
03:19.42Arrowmasterand broke with a lot of different mods i think
03:19.45Orionshockprolly needs to be touched w/regards to passing (frame)
03:19.51Arrowmasterno
03:19.54Arrowmasterits dead
03:19.57Arrowmasterdont use it
03:20.03Orionshocknooooo!!!
03:20.15Orionshocki refuse to believe you .....
03:20.17Arrowmasternobody will update it because its fucking dead and people need to stop using it
03:20.31Orionshock:((
03:21.19OrionshockArrowmaster: is there a replacement of sorts? a better one?
03:21.26Arrowmastertekkompare
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03:21.46Orionshock>.- another one of tek's mods...
03:22.11CIA-1203bashui * r52840 10CatPoints/:
03:22.11CIA-12CatPoints:
03:22.11CIA-12- Updated props
03:22.16Tekkubmoo?
03:22.30NightHawkTheSan1moooooooo
03:25.12pakozis there a way to get a full history of these "[20:22] <CIA-12> bashui * r52840 CatPoints/: "?
03:25.24pakozi wanna see the recent change log on elkano buff bars
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03:26.00Arrowmasteri doubt tekkompare even needed to be updated for the tooltip change did it? since it doesnt suck like eqcompare and uses the wow api for compare tooltips
03:26.10Tekkubwhat change?
03:26.15NightHawkTheSan1Well, those are just svn commit logs. I believe there's a google groups for those, so you coudl search that, also you could just use svn to check the commit logs themselves
03:26.29ComxxDamn i was going try out Dahud but it using DogTag-1.0 and not DogTag 2.0 =\
03:26.32Tekkubfish.wowace.com will give you decent svn logs
03:26.52NightHawkTheSan1oh right, there's fish too. keep forgetting about that
03:27.19pakozwhat is svn?
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03:28.28Tekkubdamnit bobby
03:28.34NightHawkTheSan1meh, google/wiki it, i don't feel like explaining
03:28.46Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:SVN
03:31.54pakozand how do we properly report a problem with a mod?
03:33.27Orionshockpakoz: take a look at the forum thread for it - it should tell you where the author wants bug reports
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03:44.24OrionshockTekkub: did you or anyone ever say what caused the border on the tool tips to go a funky with tekKompare?
03:44.48TekkubI believe someone said it was CowTip
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03:45.10Tekkubeither way it ain't tK's fault, it doesn't do anything but use the default API
03:45.31Orionshocki know im seeing it now
03:45.43Orionshocki wonder if it's a hook order
03:50.27Orionshockyep that did it
03:50.43Orionshockadd "tekKompare" to optional deps in cow tip and it stop'ed being fubarish
03:51.19Tekkubwhich likely means cowtip isn't hooking correctly
03:51.31Orionshockor it's not returning properly
03:51.47Tekkub"not returning properly" == not hooking correctly
03:51.53Orionshockya
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03:54.18Orionshock... and , atleast for me, ck dosn't put any real "debug" code into his addons....
03:55.16ckknighttrue, it's mostly cause I tend not to need it, it's not worth putting in for me
03:55.29Orionshockmeh
03:56.05Orionshockwtb LH & DoubleWide to play nicely togeather....
03:56.07Orionshockurg....
03:56.18Tekkubthey work fine for me
03:56.32Orionshockthe frames are overlaping
03:57.05Orionshock<PROTECTED>
03:57.18dylanmScreenshot?
03:58.07Orionshockhttp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_102107_205725.jpg
03:58.31Orionshocki need an all in wonder macro that lets me move frame arround
04:01.06Ellipsisdo you have that problem with Skinner disabled?
04:01.20Orionshock? no that's just LH being attached weirdly
04:01.28Orionshocki detached it and moved it into place :D
04:01.57Ellipsisthat doesn't answer my question
04:02.28Zhinjioso, addon syncing theory.
04:02.47Zhinjioaside from "don't do it"...
04:02.48Orionshockhehe true Ellipsis but it solves the problem at hand
04:03.01OrionshockZhinjio: synching theory?
04:03.24Zhinjioif I need to maintain a list of data between multiple clients, is it better to sync the list after some sequence of changes to the lists, or sync each event
04:03.37Orionshockcommon and reasonable answer is don't do it needlessly in combat.
04:03.51Zhinjiooh, the syncs won't ever happen during combat. only during looting
04:04.05Orionshocksyncing after each event makes it more accurate and less conflict resolution
04:04.49Zhinjiohmm, well. one group can be looting while another is in combat I suppose.
04:05.01Zhinjiobut yeah, the "events" themselves would be small amounts of data
04:05.26Orionshockthough un confermed - the smaller the string that has to be regex'ed the faster it proccesses
04:05.54Orionshockpassing long ass strings in my experiance have contributed to lag
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04:07.24Skepticanyone else have problem with OneBag getting grayed out so that you cant take anything from the bag
04:10.36ZhinjioI guess I need to define myself a little mini-protocol to make the processing of those events as simple as possible.
04:11.34Zhinjiowow, its been awhile since I've done a grammar definition. this should be fun!
04:11.35Zhinjioheh
04:12.37CIA-1203nargiddley 07Alpha * r52841 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
04:12.37CIA-12Ace3 - AceGUI:
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04:12.37CIA-12AceConfigDialog:
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04:15.25CIA-12Babble-2.2:
04:15.25CIA-12- Herbs, Trainers, Vendors: updated zhTW for the 2.2 translation
04:15.47CIA-1203helium * r52843 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0: updaetd zhTW localization
04:16.05ZealotOnAStickIllidan Down for the first time!
04:16.11ZhinjioGrats!!!
04:16.13ZealotOnAStickSkull of Gul'dan = mine!
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04:25.08naturalafternoon all
04:26.08CIA-1203candykiss * r52844 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: fix the zhCN translation of "The Eye"
04:26.57CIA-1203chuanhsing * r52845 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua:
04:26.57CIA-12Babble-2.2:
04:26.57CIA-12- zhTW update (thanks zhucc)
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04:34.13Orionshockhttp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_102107_213227.jpg
04:34.25Orionshockhttp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_102107_213230.jpg   <--holding down shift
04:36.17ZealotOnAStickI can't believe how good our Illidan first kill loot was.
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04:39.51AntiarcAnyone have tips for OT threat on Bloodboil?
04:40.03AntiarcOur DPS is having a really hard time staying below the OTs
04:40.49Orionshockhehe
04:41.02Xinhuanyes. don't dps that hard :P
04:41.03Orionshockwell there is the obvious smartass response "Don't suck"....
04:41.16Amorphousfiles.wowace.com doesn't work without js :(
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04:43.42xylchthere aren't many sites that work without js
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04:44.25NightHawkTheSan1which is really just terrible design
04:46.09CIA-1203smcn * r52847 10BagPress/ (5 files):
04:46.09CIA-12BagPress:
04:46.09CIA-12- 20200
04:46.09CIA-12- Added per-item filtering
04:46.09CIA-12- Added ability to "force-trade" items
04:46.36Xinhuanwell you would only be accessing files.wowace.com to download mods... which means you are on a computer that has wow installed
04:46.41CIA-1203sayclub * r52848 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
04:46.41CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
04:46.41CIA-12- Updated localization koKR
04:46.58Xinhuana computer capable of running wow will in most likelihood have a browser capable of using js!
04:48.45Amorphousxylch, there are. but the problem is more that it does not work with the version of konquerer i use here, with js enabled.
04:49.14AmorphousXinhuan, ^^
04:49.27NightHawkTheSan1Xinhuan: for me, its less about whether the client has the capability and more about good design
04:50.04Xinhuani've never liked the current js design anyway, prefer the old one that doesn't use js in any way
04:50.22Amorphousyup the old one was better
04:51.16Xinhuanadding js and all that was just totally unnecessary, when the server side could easily just generate 26 A-Z html pages every 20 minutes
04:53.16CIA-1203xinhuan * r52849 10/branches/WoWEquip/ (WoWEquipData.lua localization.deDE.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Splitting up the data and localization - Part 5.
04:55.14Xinhuanso, a 1500 line localization file is a pain in the ass
04:55.25Xinhuanand that's just one language
04:55.36Orionshockdamn
04:55.39Orionshockthat many strings?
04:55.46Xinhuanyep, one for every enchant
04:55.49Xinhuanand one for every gem
04:55.58Xinhuanand then one for every possible stat in the game
04:56.07Orionshocki smell babble file
04:56.07Xinhuanand then other displayable strings in the menus
04:56.17Xinhuanbabble is worthless here
04:56.37Orionshock"i smell babble file" as in a new one?
04:56.39Xinhuanbecause my menus need to display the actual details of the gem/enchants in a summarised form
04:57.13Xinhuan["Regal Tanzanite"]= "+5 Dodge Rating and +6 Stamina (Regal Tanzanite) (UE)",
04:57.20Xinhuanis an example line T_T
04:57.49Orionshockoh your not doing just translations
04:57.53Orionshockyour doing item stats
04:57.57Xinhuan["Stabilized Eternium Scope"]= "Crit Rating +28 (Stabilized Eternium Scope)",
04:57.59Xinhuanyes
04:58.12Xinhuanso its manual
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04:58.30Orionshockare the gem names the same in each locale?
04:58.50Xinhuanno
04:58.59Xinhuanthe tableindex is
04:59.04Xinhuanjust the displayed string isn't
04:59.31Orionshockgona say - if the name is the same in each locale then you can simplify some of it...
04:59.46Xinhuangenerally its "Effect (item/gem/enchant name)"
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05:00.23Xinhuan["Inscription of the Knight"]= "Def Rating +13 (Inscription of the Knight)"
05:00.35Xinhuangenerally have to shorten stuff as well so it isn't roo long
05:00.37Xinhuantoo*
05:01.27Orionshockya the term fucked comes to mind... but ya thats alot of locale data
05:01.55CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r650 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (4 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - More ally guide data... Felwood, etc.
05:02.21Xinhuandone almost everything, hmm just about 150 globals left to throw into a table
05:03.10CIA-1203hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r52850 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua:
05:03.10CIA-12AceTab-3.0:
05:03.10CIA-12- More cleanup after failed matching to eliminate previous completions--cleans
05:03.10CIA-12up practically everything, probably overkill and (minimal) extra garbage created
05:03.10CIA-12unnecessarily. Will revisit later to streamline once all other bugs are fixed.
05:03.11CIA-12- Some other stuff too.
05:04.37ZealotOnAStickI have an unusual conundrum
05:04.46ZealotOnAStickI have way too much spell hit now.
05:05.01Corgangems?
05:05.12Xinhuanthat's not unusual
05:05.24Xinhuani'm about 5% over my spellhit cap typically
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05:05.54Xinhuantalents gives 10%, my gear gives 7%, shaman aura 1%, shaman totem 3% = 21%
05:06.27SaiekDamn awesome draenei racials
05:06.41Diaolol
05:06.50SaranaSorry for the unsolicited suggestion but why not use another level of indirection. Have a bunch of locations for stuff like "+%d Dodge Rating and +%d Stamina", then have a single table with entries like ["Regal Tanzanite"] = ["+%d Dodge Rating and +%d Stamina",5,6] in the effects table and a suffix table with ["Regal Tanzanite"] = "(Regal Tanzanite) (UE)"
05:07.20Xinhuanbecause i believe regal tanzanite is the only gem that gives both dodge and stam.
05:07.26Xinhuanand about 50 other such gems
05:07.30KeiasWhat are some debuff timers that work kind of like Chronometer?
05:07.51Diaospellreminder?
05:07.52Xinhuanso having this extra level of indirection isn't very useful since they won't even get reused
05:08.15Arrowmasterwhy are you making localization patterns for gems anyway?
05:08.24Xinhuani'm not o_O
05:08.27Orionshockand in reality it's a pair of tables, one for the localized name and another for it's effect
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05:09.23Xinhuani have right click menus that display a list of gems, i want the menutext to list both the effect and the name of the gem
05:09.30Xinhuanthat's all
05:09.54Arrowmasteroh this is for wowequip
05:09.58Xinhuanindeed
05:10.05Arrowmasteri thought you were parsing tooltips or something silly like that
05:10.45ZhinjioTourGuide is very nice. Well done on that one.
05:11.33Xinhuanits even more annoying for me because
05:11.34ZhinjioI'd like to see the Jame's guides adapted to that.
05:11.43Xinhuanthe 5th and 6th return values of GetItemInfo are localized strings
05:12.01OrionshockZhinjio: prolly not - there are copyrights to worry about
05:12.14Xinhuan5th value is the itemType, 6th is the itemSubType
05:12.20Xinhuansuch as "Armor", "Cloth"
05:12.26Zhinjioyeah, I saw his notice. But contacting the author of those and getting permission is completely doable (I'd think)
05:12.28Trell_Zhinjio - tekkub said he wouldn't put jaina or bkopps into it
05:12.31NargiddleyXinhuan, Baggins has localizations for those if you want to grab them
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05:12.44ZhinjioI saw his notes, yeah.
05:12.50Tekkubtekkub said he won't infringe on their copyrights
05:12.54Xinhuani'll check it out
05:12.56Zhinjioas well he shouldn't.
05:12.58Xinhuanany particular baggins module?
05:13.02Tekkubnot that he wouldn't use their guides
05:13.03Xinhuanor just the main addon
05:13.09Trell_but yeah, it is pretty damn awesome ;)
05:13.28NargiddleyBaggins-Filtering.lua
05:13.45ZhinjioTekkub, if I contacted the author of a guide and got permission and created the files for it/them, that would be accpetable, presumably, yes?
05:14.02Tekkubyou're still not getting it
05:14.05Tekkub:P
05:14.10Zhinjioperhaps not.
05:14.14Tekkubif you do it right, you don't need their permission
05:14.26TekkubI already contacted kopp and joana
05:14.56Tekkubwhen they found out there's no way to enforce their perssiousss copyright, they lost interest
05:15.10Zhinjioaha.
05:15.15Tekkubso, I use their sequence, they cannot copyright that, and hey, it's the meat of the guide
05:15.25Keiaslol
05:15.29KeiasLoopholes ftw
05:15.32neeneeWhat about manners though
05:15.38neeneeOr doesn't anyone care about that
05:15.43Tekkub"manners"?
05:15.46KeiasLaw rules this world!
05:16.04ZealotOnAStickCorgan: I was precisely at 202 spell hit.  Then I got Skull of Gul'dan.
05:16.17ZealotOnAStickI'll lose a little when I replace my robe, but the robe will also have hit on it, so . . .
05:16.32Corganwasted item budget ftw?
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05:16.33Xinhuanif its the "meat of the guide", then it could infringe on copyright
05:16.33TekkubI don't see what "manners" has to do with anything...
05:16.51Xinhuani refer you to copyright laws on wikipedia, on "fair use"
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05:17.08TekkubI'll refer you to copyright laws if you want
05:17.15TekkubI don't use anything they can copyright
05:17.36KemayoYeah, you can't copyright a way of doing something, and that's all this is.
05:17.44Tekkubexactly
05:17.51Xinhuananyhow, aren't all such guides "obsolete" after lvl 30 next patch?
05:18.05Corganer
05:18.21Tekkuband "manners" I still don't get.... you saying I'm bad because I'm releasing something that competes with them, has the potential to be much better, and I'm not charging for it?
05:18.25Kelbenis there a doctor dmg style mod for rogues? (or just melee)?
05:18.31neeneeNope.
05:18.34TekkubXinhuan, no
05:18.39Diaodrdmg works with melee afaik Kelben
05:19.19neeneeI just mean that not asking for permission just because they can't stop you, is well.. bad manners :)
05:19.27Xinhuanleveling speed would be different in 2.3, so i'll guess some quests can be skipped
05:19.39Tekkubyou've not been reading
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05:19.52KeiasIt happens everywhere
05:19.59TekkubI asked, they basically blew me off, so I use what of theirs I legally can
05:20.00KeiasHell even softdrink companies do it
05:20.11neeneeAh well :)
05:20.27TekkubIf I had their permission, it would be a word-for-word convertion basically
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05:21.33Arrowmasterdid they bother asking you if you were a customer and had purchased their guides to be looking at them to copy the order?
05:21.42Tekkublawl no
05:21.52hyperChipmunkhaha
05:21.56Arrowmasteryeah they fail legally
05:22.00Tekkubyup
05:22.00Corganlol
05:22.46hyperChipmunkARE you a customer who had purchased their guide? >8)
05:22.58ZhinjioJames' guides are not "pay for".
05:23.16art3mishey tekk did you see idemises guide?
05:23.18Tekkubsince when do I pay for digital content?
05:23.33Zhinjiohe may be more open to the idea of a "word-for-word" copy being present in an addon
05:23.36Zhinjioblah blahblah
05:23.50TekkubI honestly don't want to do a word-for-word guide
05:23.51art3miscomes with metamap files with all the location stuff on the map ;P
05:23.59Tekkubfuck metamap
05:24.04art3misits kinna neat
05:24.19TekkubTG is kindaer neaterer
05:24.25Zhinjiohehehee
05:24.27art3misyeah
05:24.31art3miswas mucking with it the other day
05:24.43hyperChipmunkroflmetamap
05:24.53Zhinjiowell, nothing saying I couldn't make my own guide files and publish them indepedently of the TG addon itself. or something.
05:25.08Zhinjioanyway, its all hypothetical anyway since I'm way too busy doing my own thinger riht now
05:25.39hyperChipmunk> CONSULT GUIDE ON EPIX
05:25.49art3mishrm
05:26.31Tekkubmy general goal is to provide guides that work well enough that people won't want a specific named guide
05:27.16Xinhuanguide on how to kill Archimonde please
05:27.31Bejittguide on getting to Archimonde please
05:28.21Arrowmasterguide on how to find competent raiders please
05:28.45Xinhuan1. First, play on a high population server
05:30.10Xinhuantrick or treat time!
05:30.50Xinhuanout of 20 or so times, i think i've only gotten 2 masks, that's a heap better than last year's 40% masks or something from the bag
05:31.12Arrowmasterive goten 4 random wands and a pirate wand so far
05:31.18TekkubI have year-old candy
05:31.24Xinhuanatm i have 3 random, 2 ninja and a pirate wand
05:31.24Arrowmasterand i play on a day 1 pvp server
05:31.34TekkubI kept telling myself "it's % so it's best to use it at 60/70
05:31.34Arrowmasteri have wands from the past 3 years
05:31.40Tekkubso I never used it
05:31.44XelopherisI have 9 random wands in the bank
05:31.48Xelopheris<PROTECTED>
05:31.51Arrowmasterlol
05:31.57Arrowmasteri have 16+
05:32.07Tekkubpackrats :P
05:32.07XelopherisI use bat wands on tanks while they're tanking >.>
05:32.08Xinhuani still have mistletoe from last christmas :(
05:32.09Arrowmasteri keep lossing count
05:32.13Tekkubprolly have a snowball mule too
05:32.26XelopherisI still have a spot on my UI for hard packed snowballs
05:32.26Arrowmasternah i dont have snowball mule
05:32.31SaranaWow... Though I had two bags of them one point myself... but last year didn't get so many.
05:32.31CIA-1203sayclub * r52851 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
05:32.31CIA-12Threat-1.0:
05:32.31CIA-12- Updated localization koKR
05:32.33Xinhuanbah i just got turned into a cat
05:32.36Arrowmasterhave a few stacks though
05:32.49XelopherisI have a mule with full 18 slot bags with nothign but snowballs
05:32.54Arrowmasterlol
05:33.09Xelopherisshould start selling them now I guess
05:33.13Xelopherisconsidering I can restock soon
05:33.16Arrowmasterhaha
05:33.33Xinhuani made a guild bank on PTR. so on tab 5, i named it "snake on a plane" and someone arranged enough items in it to look like a plane
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05:33.47Tekkublol
05:33.55the-golemlol
05:33.56the-golemso
05:33.57art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/zim-mini.jpg
05:33.58Xinhuanthen on tab 6, i named it "corn lol" and put a corn icon on it, and someone unstacked a lot of essences and void crystals
05:34.08Xinhuanand spelt out the letters CORN on the top 4 rows
05:34.10CIA-1203kaelten 07Ace3 * r52852 10KC_ChatLink/KC_ChatLink.lua: KC_ChatLink: removed one of the background tables to lower memory usage.
05:34.11Xinhuanand LOL on the bottom 3
05:34.15the-golemwe just tried the Prince strat on wowwiki with e "safe spots" and infernals dropped right on it
05:34.17art3misoops
05:34.24art3miswrong channel
05:34.26|Stan|Xinhuan: screenshot^^
05:34.29the-golemboth of them
05:34.38TekkubI need to poke at the gbanks...
05:34.38ArrowmasterXinhuan: did they make it out of snake minipets?
05:34.45Tekkubwhat server? I want a guild invite
05:34.47Xinhuanno heh
05:35.04Xinhuanus pvp
05:35.07Xinhuani'm not on it atm actually
05:35.13Xinhuanbut can prob log on
05:35.20Tekkubally or whorde
05:35.23Xinhuanally
05:35.35Xelopherisally scum
05:35.53CIA-1203candykiss * r52853 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
05:35.53CIA-12Babble-2.2:
05:35.53CIA-12- zhCN updated for Babble-Fish-2.2 and Babble-Zone-2.2
05:36.05Tekkublemme make a Draenish
05:36.39Xinhuan[2007/10/22 13:36:18-3272-x353]: Blizzard_FeedbackUI\Blizzard_FeedbackUI.lua:473: bad argument #1 to 'gsub' (string expected, got nil)
05:36.41Tekkubunable to validate?
05:36.43Xinhuanyep Blizzard fails.
05:36.47Tekkubdo I have to reinstall the PTR?
05:36.52Xinhuan353 errors
05:37.08Xinhuanoh HAHA its in an onupdate handler too
05:37.14Xinhuanso its like 4k errors now
05:37.31Xinhuanyou have to delete PTR 2.2.2
05:37.37Xinhuanbefore you install 2.3.0 ptr
05:37.37TekkubI have 2.3
05:37.48Xinhuanuse the "launcher" to start your wow
05:37.54Xinhuanthere's a 80 mb new patch about 3 days ago
05:37.59Tekkuboh fuck the launcher up the goat ass
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05:38.15Xinhuanwell starting your wowtest without the launcher doesn't update it
05:38.17Xinhuanfor some reason
05:38.29Tekkubthat's retarded, assholes
05:38.48hyperChipmunklol @ my gf
05:38.52TekkubDear Blue, WTB I DON'T USE THE STUPID LAUNCHER PST
05:40.06hyperChipmunki showed her that screenshot and she says, "oh, invader zim".  I told her i didn't know who that was, but it looked funny.  She replies:
05:40.13hyperChipmunkashley: cartoon from nickalodeon
05:40.13hyperChipmunkashley: a few years back
05:40.14hyperChipmunkashley: it went:
05:40.15hyperChipmunkashley: ren & stimpy, then doug and rugrats, then ah! real monsters and hey arnold, then rocko's modern life, then  the angry beavers and catdog, then spongebob squarepants--who remains by far the most successful of all the nicktoons, then invader zim (who was cancelled pretty fast, but popular among middleschoolers)
05:40.23hyperChipmunklike wtf
05:40.43TekkubI loved rocko
05:40.50hyperChipmunkmy g/f is apparently a nickelodeon documentary writer on the side or something
05:40.50Tekkubbeavers was okey
05:40.51Xinhuanso did the launcher perform a download/update? lol
05:40.58Tekkubbut Zim is by far the winner
05:41.09Tekkubit downloaded the downloader
05:41.16Tekkubwhich is not getting inbound at all
05:41.21BejittHMMMCHICKEN
05:41.21TekkubI hate blue's BT
05:41.22hyperChipmunkdear god she's still commenting on them
05:41.27Xinhuanyeah, ppl are complaining on the forums about why the launcher is required for this patch
05:41.32Xinhuanon the ptr
05:41.36EllipsishyperChipmunk: and this is when you realize you made a mistake?
05:41.41Xinhuaninstead of just downloading it when logging in
05:41.47TekkubhC tell her I saw the Rocko where the "milked" heffer, live on TV
05:41.52Tekkubit only aired the once :)
05:41.55Bejitthahahaha
05:42.05hyperChipmunkEllipsis: heck no, I love her to pieces
05:42.10hyperChipmunkjust now, even more than before
05:42.33Ellipsis:|
05:43.10BejitthyperChipmunk: " I told her i didn't know who that was, but it looked funny" i would tell you to go check tv-links, but... :(
05:43.40Ellipsis=[
05:43.50Ellipsiswe are all feeling the pain from that
05:44.20hyperChipmunkBejitt: wasn't really the point; the wall of text that she hit me with out of the blue was what was noteworthy =)
05:44.27Bejittlol
05:44.54Tekkubtime to extract this bittch and let uTorrent dl it
05:45.11Tekkubfucking patch downloader :P
05:45.28hyperChipmunki mean, i knew of her encyclopedic knowledge of Futurama and the Simpsons, but this came from nowhere
05:46.14Tekkubwhich will win, uT or blue?
05:46.35Bejitthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcgzKrDYc1M omg
05:46.43Xinhuani dont know
05:46.46TekkubhC, her knowledge embiggens her
05:47.14Xinhuanwhen i downloaded it, blizz downloader completed the 80 mb in about 7 minutes or something
05:47.35Tekkubwhen I use this shit DLer I usually default to direct HTTP
05:47.56Tekkubmaybe if those retards learned to try UPnP it'd work better for a lot of people
05:48.21TekkubI'm not opening default torrent ports on my router... we have two comps that run uTorrent all the time here :P
05:49.04Bejitt"dont forget to get _your_ twangers out, and play with your balls"
05:50.12Tekkubtha bear scares me
05:50.21Wobworka bear that scares you?
05:50.26Tekkubif they wanted to be perverted fursuiters.. .they got it all wrong
05:50.33Arrowmasterthe blizz downloader does do UPnP i thought
05:50.38Bejittfound it from: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/video/lunchbreak101907
05:50.45WobworkThere's a -wrong- way to be a perverted fursuiter?
05:50.45Bejitt"The Five Most Inappropriate Children's Videos"
05:50.48TekkubI've never seen it open a port on my router
05:51.17Bejitthahaha the last one is awesome
05:51.23ZhinjioThere's a -right- way to be a perverted furrie?
05:53.02NightHawkTheSan1isn't perverted furry redundant?
05:53.19Tekkubyou're redundant
05:53.25NightHawkTheSan1I am redundant.
05:53.42NightHawkTheSan1rm -rf NightHawkTheSan1 ><
05:54.42Tekkubhrm... minipets changed slightly last patch
05:54.52Tekkubthey stay out if you crash and log back in
05:55.00Tekkubwonder if they stay out over long logouts
05:56.56CIA-1203nargiddley 07Alpha * r52854 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
05:56.57CIA-12Ace3 - AceGUI: Add Keybinding widget
05:56.57CIA-12AceConfigDialog:
05:56.57CIA-12<PROTECTED>
05:56.57CIA-12<PROTECTED>
05:58.30Zhinjiowhat is the limit for a single AddonMessage length? I think I read its like 255 or something, right?
05:58.36Zhinjioor something just shy of that
05:59.10Tekkub254 for message and premable isn't it?
05:59.26Tekkub255 per message, both parts count, minus the delimiter char
05:59.26Zhinjioright, its the preamble I was forgetting bout.
05:59.44Zhinjiojust trying to speculate on how long an update message I might be sending.
05:59.55Xinhuanthe delimiter is a "tab", so your preamble cannot have that
06:00.10Zhinjio160 character payload. 3 character action code. 3 character preamble. no problem.
06:00.31CIA-1203hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r52855 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua:
06:00.31CIA-12AceTab-3.0:
06:00.31CIA-12- pass the uncompleted partial word as a fourth arg to the registered wordlist function
06:00.48Zhinjiobetter than sending up to 40 15 character messages for a single looting event.
06:01.29Zhinjioohm, hmm. listname. I can limit that to say 15 character. and playername is limited to what? 15 characters?
06:01.40Xinhuan12
06:01.51Zhinjioright.
06:01.59ZhinjioI'm still ok. excellent.
06:02.02Xinhuanhowever, it may use more characters on foreign servers
06:02.38RaydenUnicyclistso simplecombatlog
06:02.42RaydenUnicyclistis it recording automatically?
06:02.47RaydenUnicyclistor do i need to start it?
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06:03.04Xinhuansimplecombatlog isn't a combatlogger.
06:03.24Xinhuanit is a filter
06:03.28*** part/#wowace art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net)
06:03.31Xinhuanthat allows you to only show what you want to see
06:03.36RaydenUnicyclisti was told it would save something i could upload to... wowwebstats or whatever
06:03.47Xinhuanfor that, you simply type /combatlog
06:03.54Xinhuanand wow automatically logs
06:04.03Xinhuaneverything to /logs/
06:04.12Xinhuanand you upload that file
06:04.14RaydenUnicyclistoh ok thx
06:04.19Xinhuanrequires no addon
06:05.02Xinhuan/chatlog does the same... except for chat events, rather than combatlog events
06:05.42Xinhuannote that a new file is generated (and overwrites the old one) per game session (login)
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06:08.11CIA-1203nargiddley 07Alpha * r52856 10Ace3/tests/AceGUITest/test.lua: AceGUITest: Add a test group with more option types
06:17.31OrionshockStarwars never gets old :D
06:18.05NightHawkTheSan1neither does your mom.
06:18.48kebinusanstar wars never gets good
06:18.58OrionshockLOL
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06:19.10NightHawkTheSan1sadly, neither does your mom.
06:20.04kebinusanBut at least George Lucas isnt fucking her
06:20.04Orionshocknot 1->3 but 4->6; their classics
06:20.05NightHawkTheSan1kebinusan: touche!
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06:21.36chexsumwow makes you fat :(
06:21.41`Zypherlies
06:21.52naturaland chuck norris makes you skinny
06:21.58`Zypherdidn't you hear about the guy who set up his like stationary bike with a pc
06:22.07`Zypherlost like 20 pounds
06:22.41naturallol
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06:23.14`Zypherlol
06:23.21`ZypherSpriest > ALL
06:23.28RaydenUnicyclistdoes the KZ door lock during boss battles?
06:23.43`Zypherwell
06:23.44Orionshockall raid instances
06:23.47`Zypheryou can't zone it
06:23.48RaydenUnicyclistoh ok
06:23.49`Zypherin*
06:23.57RaydenUnicyclisti'm running KZ for the first time and i'm out dps'ing all but the mage
06:23.58Orionshockwhile a Boss Encounter is in progress no one can Zone in
06:23.58Wobworkso technically no
06:24.02RaydenUnicyclist469 avg dps...
06:24.07RaydenUnicycliststill doesn't seem that high
06:24.14WobworkThat's pretty good
06:24.24Wobworkfor a non kara geared rogue
06:24.31RaydenUnicyclisti'm a shadowpriest
06:24.35Wobworkoh
06:24.37`Zyphersame
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06:24.40Wobworkwhy did I think rogue
06:24.48RaydenUnicyclist!c us destromath raydenuni
06:24.54RaydenUnicyclist!help
06:24.59`Zypherhow much Fzn SW you have?
06:25.02ThraeBotRaydenUnicyclist: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (13/2/46). 7541 HP; 7755 Mana; 168 mana regen; 26 mp5; 115 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 369 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (548); 218 shadow dmg (587); 5.06% dodge; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1144 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 02:28:10 2007 EST ]]
06:25.07RaydenUnicyclistfzn?
06:25.14`ZypherFrozen Shadoweave
06:25.17Wobworkfrozen shadoweave
06:25.23Fisker-Frozen Shadoweave
06:25.44sedatedChipmunkFozzie Nudes
06:25.47RaydenUnicyclisti have the whole set
06:26.02Fisker-hi sedatedChipmunk
06:26.02`Zypherhmm
06:26.12chexsum!c us barthilas chamberlaine
06:26.15Fisker-wanna play doctor and patient sedatedChipmunk?
06:26.24ThraeBotchexsum: Chamberlaine, Level 70 Undead Priest (20/0/41). 7661 HP; 8970 Mana; 196 mana regen; 29 mp5; 131 spell crit; 65 spell hit; 768 +spell dmg/heal; 51 shadow dmg (819); 4.90% dodge; 120 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1429 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28y8nn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33avsm ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 02:29:42 2007 EST ]]
06:26.27sedatedChipmunkeven the one from Ursine Blasphemies 7?
06:26.45Solewhats up bitchas
06:26.46chexsum0 fzw since im mooncloth atm
06:26.57RaydenUnicyclisti died during attument :(
06:27.04chexsumi clock 750dps with that char
06:27.19chexsumwith lock debuff
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06:29.40RaydenUnicyclisti'm pwning the rogue and the warlock in dps
06:30.55chexsumim usually dehind the frostmage and lock if theres a geare affliction lock
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06:31.29chexsumthreat caps suck :P
06:31.47RaydenUnicyclistwe are all just starting KZ
06:32.14kebinusanchexsum: just stop casting VE
06:32.22kebinusanyou shouldnt have problems with threat
06:32.27chexsummy rogue with a total of two epics can get 650dps
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06:42.00CIA-1203xinhuan * r52857 10/branches/WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua WoWEquipData.lua): WoWEquip: - Move data from main file to data file.
06:42.09the-golemlool
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06:42.20Soleyes
06:42.21the-golemwhat i timely post from the bot
06:42.22the-golem^^
06:42.22SoleI did
06:42.37ramozWhat's the difference between LibGratuity and GratuityLib?
06:42.43Xinhuanhi :)
06:42.48Soleone is Rock and one is Ace2
06:42.53SoleLib* = Rock
06:42.54|Stan|ramoz: first one is newer
06:42.54ramozah
06:43.15Wobworkwell not always true
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06:43.26WobworkLibBabble is libstub, no?
06:43.32Xinhuannote that my addon WoWEquip is not related to www.wowequip.com or http://wowequip.thebox.org/ in any way or manner
06:43.45Wobwork(or at least one of the other Lib*s is libstub)
06:44.03the-golemXinhuan: yeah, but the sheer timing of it was amazing
06:44.04the-golem^^
06:44.08CodayusTrue
06:44.25Xinhuanwell feel free to try the addon
06:44.34ramozwhat does it do?
06:44.53Wobworkheals your raid
06:45.01Xinhuanits like ct-profiles, but a ingame version
06:45.23CIA-1203tekkub * r52858 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (BuffTemplate.lua Minipet.lua): FuBar_CorkFu - Add reload detection to minipet module
06:45.37the-golemcoincidentally
06:45.52the-golemhttp://wowequip.tehbox.org/ imports CTProfiles
06:46.03the-golem>.<
06:46.35Xinhuanexcept its dead
06:47.01the-golemhehe
06:47.18Xinhuanand that it took him 7 months to implement gems after TBC came out
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06:47.45Xinhuanand you still have to manually import every item one by one from allakhazam
06:51.34CIA-1203helium * r52859 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua: LibFuBarPlugin-3.0: updated zhTW localization
06:51.54CIA-1203helium * r52860 10LibParser-4.0/LibParser-4.0.lua: LibParser-4.0: updated zhTW localization
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06:52.18CIA-1203helium * r52861 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0: updated zhTW localization
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06:53.08ramozwhat happends if you gdisband with the uildbank full of shit?
06:53.36Xinhuanyou lose it all
06:53.40Xinhuanapparantly.
06:54.03Cartas:o
06:54.13CodayusOoh, awesome.
06:54.20Codayus(Mind you, how else would you handle it?)
06:54.28Orionshockdefaults to the guild master
06:54.41Orionshockor it'll require you to empty the bank first before a disband
06:54.47CodayusYes, but how?  Show up in your mailbox?
06:54.50Wobworkthat would make more sense
06:54.57CodayusThe second suggestion would make sense.
06:54.58Wobworksort of like trying to destroy a bag
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06:55.03Wobworkwhen it has stuff in it
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06:55.28Xinhuanas far as i know the stuff in the gbank just gets totally destroyed
06:55.32Xinhuanaccording to someone on ptr
06:55.38Xinhuanbut i have no proof if its true or not
06:55.48WobworkThat could be griefy
06:55.50CIA-1203ominous * r52862 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer
06:55.56CIA-1203next96 * r52863 10BunchOfBars/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
06:55.56CIA-12BunchOfBars:
06:55.56CIA-12- Update locale koKR
06:55.57Wobworkbut then the gdisband would be griefy anyway
06:56.38Xinhuanone of my members got hacked 2 days ago
06:56.49CodayusI know of a guild where the leader threw a fit and disbanded...
06:56.50Xinhuanhis mage was xferred to Silver Hand, and every other char deleted.
06:57.02Xinhuannow we have healer shortage.. zzz
06:57.08Xinhuansince his main is a shaman
06:57.26Xinhuansome trojan got his password
06:57.50Xinhuanthe worst part is it happening on like a friday
06:57.51Codayus...and then transferred servers, WITH the entire contents of the guild bank alt...
06:57.55Xinhuanso you can't contact blizzard
06:58.03Xinhuansince they dont' work on weekends
07:00.55Solepoor guy
07:00.57Soleso much time gone
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07:01.20Xinhuanthat's not the first hack either
07:01.30Xinhuanjust 1.5 weeks ago another rogue got hacked, and xferred
07:01.36Xinhuanhe got it back about 10 days later
07:02.16XinhuanBlizzard should really implement something like "email verification" for transferring toons
07:02.27Xinhuanor do they do that already?
07:02.34Orionshock72hr lock out
07:02.36CIA-1203toadkiller * r52864 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
07:02.36CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
07:02.36CIA-12-- Oil of Immolation, Goblin Fishing Pole
07:02.37CartasYou get an email...
07:02.48Xinhuanyes you get an email
07:02.54CartasCan't remember if it's asking for a confirmation.
07:02.54Xinhuanbut the transfer goes through within an hour
07:03.00Xinhuanbecause its that fast
07:03.06CartasYeh, mine was that fast recently.
07:03.10Xinhuanby the time the owner of the account checks his email
07:03.13Xinhuanthe toon would already be xferred
07:03.19CartasDon't get trojans.
07:03.24Orionshockimho - all xfers should have a 72hr lock out after email confermation
07:03.31Xinhuanyeah but blizzard can minimize such stuff happening
07:03.36Xinhuanby adding email verification
07:03.48Xinhuan"click on this link to verify that you want to transfer XXX to YYY server"
07:03.58CIA-1203next96 * r52865 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PlayerNotify/koKR.lua:
07:03.58CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
07:03.58CIA-12- Update locale koKR
07:04.17CartasIf someone hacked your account, they can change the email address associated?
07:04.29Solewhoa
07:04.33OrionshockCartas: no
07:04.36Xinhuanemail address can't be changed without calling blizzard on the phone
07:04.40CartasOh :o
07:04.47SoleXinhuan: do you have the legendary qiraji mount?
07:04.55XinhuanSole: yes i do
07:05.01CartasThanks for letting me know that, Xinhuan! I'm never going to change my email as long as I'm playing WoW then :P
07:05.04SoleXinhuan: hehe so it is you  you dirty little gnome
07:05.12Xinhuanwhat? :O
07:05.21Sole< BR player from day 1
07:05.30SoleI knew your name was familiar
07:05.38Solethen I read the WoWEquip notes
07:05.40Xinhuanwho are you? >_>
07:05.41SoleXinhuan @ Blackrock
07:06.00SoleI DONT KNOW YOU
07:06.09Solewell not in game
07:06.22Xinhuanhow would you know me then?
07:06.33Solefrom irc silly
07:06.41Solewell let me rephrase that
07:06.43Wobworkoh god
07:06.44SoleI play horde
07:06.48WobworkUS Blackrock?
07:06.50Xinhuanyou just said you were BR player from day 1
07:06.56SoleI am
07:06.56Xinhuanso that implied you knew me thru the server
07:06.59Wobwork><
07:07.00SoleI do
07:07.06WobworkI hate you blackrockians =P
07:07.10Soleconfused yet? :P
07:07.18SoleWobwork: and I hate you aussies..sometimes
07:07.27SoleWobwork: ok thats a lie you have hot girls
07:07.29Xinhuanaccording to my database, "Sole is not in a guild"
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07:07.45SoleIm in NDC
07:07.50WobworkSole: more due to the idiiots from blackrock that come onto Argent Dawn each time BR is down
07:08.00SoleWobwork: lol we havent done that for a long time
07:08.05SoleWobwork: did you like our naked gnome marches?
07:08.15WobworkI switch to horde =P
07:08.16XinhuanWobwork, the last time BR was down was over 8 months ago ;p
07:08.27Wobworkreally? We've had incursions since then =P
07:08.35Xinhuanminor incursions then
07:08.39Wobworktrue
07:08.40Xinhuanwe've also had some incursions from AD
07:08.45SoleXinhuan, I just remembered your name from the AQ event. Didnt mean to try to freak you out :P
07:08.45Xinhuanwhich were hilarious
07:08.46Wobworkwell naturally
07:08.57Xinhuan;p
07:08.59WobworkI think our guild made "baa"
07:09.06Wobworkeach toon with one more 'a'
07:09.07Soleroleplayers trying to beat out BR...lol
07:09.14Xinhuanwell thanks to blackrock lag, i didn't manage to bang the gong first
07:09.36Xinhuani banged it 4th to be exact
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07:10.17Soleyeah I remember
07:10.23CIA-1203toadkiller * r52866 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
07:10.23CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
07:10.23CIA-12-- Misc.Explosives.Engineering
07:10.48Solethere was 1 from emi, 1 from elite I think, 1 from no maam and 1 from that guild that broke up long ago
07:10.50Solewhatever their name
07:10.57Xinhuanincorrect :)
07:11.07SoleI didnt bother remembering :P
07:11.35Xinhuanyou'll find some details here
07:11.36Xinhuanhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Blackrock_US
07:11.52Xinhuanwell actually, i wrote that page
07:11.54Xinhuanso
07:12.30Soletbh I only remember  helping eminence with the green crystal event but then hitsquad rolled up and wiped em
07:12.43Xinhuandefinitely not Elite
07:12.48Xinhuanall 4 were alliance
07:13.09Xinhuanthe interguild drama was fantastic back then
07:13.18Xinhuandramafilled days
07:13.57Soleyeah
07:13.59SoleI loved it
07:14.28Soleremember the forums when we  got the 2nd nef kill?
07:14.45Xinhuanwe hated emi cos they ninjaed our Eye of Shadows for his girlfriend ;p
07:14.52Solehaha
07:14.58Xinhuannow we're guilds that help each other lol
07:15.02Xinhuanand dislike elementium
07:15.44Solea lot has changed
07:16.11Xinhuando you still play on br?
07:16.30Soleyeah
07:16.33Solestill in NDc
07:16.36Solebut I went casual
07:16.49Solearound Naxx
07:16.59Soleall the NDC pros left :(
07:17.04Sole(cept for me of course)
07:17.29SoleEx retired?
07:17.36Xinhuanhe came back like 2 weeks ago
07:17.41Xinhuanunretired so to speak
07:17.47XinhuanNice gave his account away
07:17.50Xinhuansome scrub plays it now
07:17.57Sole=\
07:18.05Xinhuanhe was in colony raiders before emi
07:18.21Solethat page on WoWWiki doesnt have NDC listed as a horde guild
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07:19.34Xinhuani didn't update the guild list
07:19.36Xinhuanonly the content above
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07:21.24TecnoBratis there an Ace addon that tracks your money usage?
07:21.32OrionshockMonyFu
07:22.07TecnoBratMore looking for something that tracks like what you spend on repairs, reagents, etc
07:22.22Industrial< TecnoBrat> is there an addon that tracks your money usage?
07:22.28IndustrialTecnoBrat: I fixed it for you
07:23.21TecnoBratIndustrial: pfft
07:23.53TecnoBratWell there is CT_ExpenseHistory, but yea :P
07:24.08IndustrialI'm serious though. Frameworks are developer tools, not usability conditions.
07:24.18Orionshock>.- so the hunter asks after im dead (im the healer) , "What's Blue for?"
07:24.32Orionshock.. me: "Im sorry i thought you knew how to play"
07:24.39IndustrialOrionshock: blue? :p
07:24.49OrionshockBlue Square - raid icon?
07:24.53Industrialoh lol
07:25.10Wobworkblue is standard for hunters =P
07:25.15Wobworkcause it stands for OMG FREEZING
07:25.30Industrialwell I dont have any reaiding experience :3
07:25.30Wobworknot sure why moon is standard for mages
07:25.40WobworkIndustrial: no.. for 5mans =P
07:25.42Wobworkas well
07:25.46Industrialsame thing :x
07:25.51WobworkIndustrial: go
07:25.51Industrial!c eu grim batol seryan
07:25.53ThraeBotIndustrial: Seryan, Level 46 Troll Hunter (37/0/0). 1871 HP; 1725 Mana; 78 mana regen; 50.500 Melee DPS; 4.93% melee crit; 72.90 Ranged DPS; 7.73% ranged crit; 10.77% dodge;[[ TBR: 749 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrw6xs ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2n8t5r ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 03:29:13 2007 EST ]]
07:25.54Wobworklearn
07:25.57Industrialgetting there!
07:26.00Wobworkno
07:26.02Wobworkgo Instance
07:26.04Wobworknow =P
07:26.11WobworkInstance more
07:26.14IndustrialI cant get a group for mara - and im sick of ZF :x
07:26.15TecnoBratIndustrial: true, however the fact that it most likely also includes a fubar plugin, etc.  It is a usability condition
07:26.17Wobworklearn how to play well with others =P
07:26.30Wobworkchain trap etc etc
07:26.42Orionshockpally tanks.... easily one shotted and more often than warriors or druids...
07:27.00Wobworkdamn pallies
07:27.04Wobworkalways have to kill them twice
07:29.06Orionshockours got 1 shotted in Bot - on first boss noless
07:29.38WobworkIsn't she the one that's just tank/spank?
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07:29.59Orionshockya , STDIO Tank and Spank boss + adds at 30%
07:30.58Wobworkclearly your tank needs more hp =)
07:31.23IndustrialTecnoBrat: Yes, but diversity is good :p
07:31.46TecnoBratIndustrial: lol I've got wayyyy too many mods, but I understand what you are saying :P
07:35.24Codayus2.3 will help...
07:37.32Orionshockour pally tank is still wearing "Force of Will" from BRD :\
07:37.47Gngskfor reals?
07:37.55Orionshocksadly yes
07:38.00the-golembooooooo
07:38.11Gngskrun shadow labs and get him the adamantite figurine
07:38.19the-golemT4 shoulders dropped and i didnt win :-(
07:38.24Orionshockthat's what im thinkking
07:39.14kebinusanbleh, my net must be crap tonight, 387 seeds, 1234 peers and a blazing 4.6kb/sec
07:39.50Gngsksounds comcastic
07:39.58kebinusancharter actually
07:40.05Gngskaww
07:40.07Orionshockno one does instances any more for the sake of doing them...
07:40.17the-golemWobwork : because Moon = werewolf = shapeshift = polymorph
07:40.30GngskOrionshock, no one ever did that?
07:40.37Orionshockback in the day
07:40.45Orionshocknow it's all about how much you can skip
07:40.57kebinusancontent bypass 4tw
07:41.06Orionshockoh no;
07:41.12Orionshocki remember the days of clearing UBRS
07:41.19Gngskinstances are made with content skipping in mind now it feels like
07:41.23Gngska game within the game
07:41.35the-golemi remember back when sac cable wasnt part of comcast
07:41.45the-golemwhen cable *wasnt* shit
07:41.54Orionshockthe days of UBRS - you had to kill just about everything in the instance to get to drekk
07:42.02kebinusanI used to do late night pugs of ubrs for fun, being called nasty things like 'chain puller' and zomg dont use fear for cc
07:42.31the-golemkebinusan: was it safe to do so when u did?
07:42.57kebinusanyeah pretty much anytime is safe to fear if you pull all proper like
07:42.59Orionshockfear is the ultamate form of CC
07:43.10kebinusanand being a warlock you can always dance coex/recklessness
07:43.31kebinusanactually being able to fear CC is one of the things I love about the kael trash
07:43.32CIA-1203sayclub * r52867 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua:
07:43.32CIA-12LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 :
07:43.32CIA-12- Updated localization koKR
07:44.30kebinusanthe-golem: usually it'd be two or three way overgeared guildmates and I on vent so even getting a few adds wasnt the end of the world
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07:44.58Xinhuani did a UBRS last week
07:45.09Xinhuanwhen i reached the last 2 rooms
07:45.12Xinhuani was like
07:45.18Xinhuan"where the fuck are all the trash?"
07:45.53the-golemi wish i could run my own hunter thru brd/brs
07:46.04the-golemspam arena event
07:46.23the-golemcollect set :-)\
07:46.43Orionshock-.-
07:46.49OrionshockTab Target FTL
07:46.54Orionshocki need to find a new guild
07:47.17Xinhuanwhy
07:47.28kebinusanOrionshock: Roll a shaman and show up for raids, you can join mine
07:47.33kebinusanhehe
07:47.38Orionshockthey are braking CC left and right ... and i end up dying
07:48.01Orionshockkebinusan: you sound EU
07:48.19kebinusanUS, on a cesspool of a realm
07:48.27CIA-1203rabbit * r52868 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer: Don't barf on notes with nil names or icons.
07:48.45Xinhuanvhaarr
07:49.00vhaarrmorning
07:49.01kebinusanShu'halo opened as transfer only a couple weeks before tbc... I cant even sell vortexes for 500g each
07:49.03Xinhuancan you fix _Notes so that toggling "rotate minimap" works too?
07:49.05the-golemLOL @ rabbit
07:49.25Xinhuanat the moment, it only works on reloadui or logging in
07:49.31Orionshockkebinusan: im a resto/feral druid - will you take me?
07:49.33Xinhuanbut toggling it doesn't work
07:49.39vhaarrXinhuan: ah, it's an interface setting?
07:49.42Xinhuanyes
07:49.48vhaarrlet me see
07:49.52Xinhuanthe code to detect the interface setting being changed isn't correct or something
07:49.57kebinusanSadly we have too many druids atm
07:50.00Xinhuanits a cvar i believe
07:50.04vhaarrthe-golem: wut?
07:50.16kebinusanoh man, I just started doing arenas this week with as a druid/warlock
07:50.22kebinusanIve never had so much fun
07:50.31the-golemvhaarr: " Don't barf on notes with nil names or icons"
07:50.59the-golemi found it ammusing ^^
07:51.03vhaarrokay :P
07:51.09the-golemamusing also
07:51.15kebinusan~cake
07:51.16purlthe cake is a lie!
07:51.18Xinhuanthere's also a conflict between cowtip tooltip fading option and _Herbalism/Mining not recording nodes
07:51.21kebinusan~botsnack
07:51.21purlkebinusan: thanks
07:51.24Xinhuandunno if its fixed yet
07:51.35vhaarrI don't use cowtip, it sucks
07:51.49Xinhuanyep but enough ppl are complaining on 3-4 seperate threads on wowace forums
07:52.02Orionshockactualy i don't think it's the fading Xinhuan
07:52.11the-golemi need to figure out a way to maximize my FPS
07:52.12Xinhuanpeople posted that it is though
07:52.23Orionshockiv got both
07:52.28the-golemit has been at 30, then this week it crashed town to 10 avg
07:52.29Orionshockand a low lvl alt with herb
07:52.37TekkubI want to start a guild named <Pen Is Mightier>
07:52.39Orionshockntm it's not cart_herb/mining that's the problem
07:52.46Orionshockit's tailsmonger lib
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07:52.56the-golemTekkub: id join it ;-)
07:52.58vhaarrTekkub: "Words that end in 'amburger'" imo
07:53.09Tekkub<AAAASIA>
07:53.17the-golemlol
07:53.18Orionshockthere is no actual detection code in _herb / _mining modules; just registers to tailismonger lib
07:53.21Xinhuanascii bunny guild pls
07:53.34kebinusanXela Kebert
07:54.04CIA-1203jerry * r52869 10Talented_Data/ (Talented_Data.toc Talented_Data_zhTW.lua): Talented_Data: revert the hand made zhTW translation. Added a warning not to add hand made translations.
07:54.13Tekkubhrm... could one name a guild, say, <>-<>
07:54.15kebinusanWe had one called <Balls Deep> on our realm, but they received a free forced name change
07:54.39Tekkub<Bombardment!>
07:54.43Tekkubgood ol simpsons
07:54.53kebinusanmine is <Shut Up and Pull> which I like
07:55.08Xinhuanmine is <No MAAM>
07:55.23KeiasThere was one on my alt's server called <Fried Chicken & Kool Aid> that used to make me laugh :(
07:55.34Tekkubyatta, got the PTR patch done
07:55.37KeiasBut it was changed, of course
07:55.39Tekkubguild me up bitchie
07:55.43TecnoBratBalls Deep rings a bell .. hmmm
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07:55.55TecnoBratkebinusan: you dont happen to be from Korgath do you? lol
07:56.02the-golemtheres a horde guild on my server called <Pwncakes and Roffles>
07:56.04kebinusannah Shu'Halo
07:56.09kebinusanterrible realm
07:56.33kebinusan<Have candy get in van>
07:56.47the-golemhaahaha
07:56.50Xinhuanpm me on the ptr
07:57.47Xinhuanthe inspect talent thing is pretty cool
07:58.00Tekkubloggin in as tek right now
07:58.01Xinhuanexcept that it doesn't always inspect correctly at the moment
07:58.12vhaarrXinhuan: when I toggle minimap rotation, herb icons jump around on my minimap, indicating that it's working
07:58.12Xinhuanmeaning, the wrong talents show up on some people
07:58.17TekkubI in
07:58.24Chompersus or eu Tekkub?
07:58.28Xinhuanis it? mine doesn't
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07:58.32Tekkubus
07:58.39Chompersbah :<
07:58.41Xinhuanis it rotating when you rotate your char?
07:58.44the-golemBejitt: ping
07:58.54the-golem(just sayin hi really)
07:58.54vhaarrXinhuan: yes
07:59.10Xinhuanhmm
07:59.16vhaarrXinhuan: _routes doesn't update, though, only the herb icons
07:59.26Xinhuanerr on my end
07:59.32Xinhuanits _routes that rotates, the herb icons don't
08:00.01vhaarrit's quite clear what's wrong, then
08:00.06vhaarryou live in opposite country
08:00.26Xinhuanpfft
08:01.27Chomperscover your butts, fiskers here
08:01.36Chompersor expose them i guess
08:01.44Fisker-oh yeah
08:01.52Xinhuanwell something is wrong if
08:01.56Xinhuanwe're both experiencing opposites
08:03.11Tekkubhaha tauren mask on a draenei is so wrong
08:03.17Tekkubit's got a face tentcle
08:03.59Zhinjioanyone else have problems in PTR opening guild bank (client crash)?
08:04.17Xinhuanit probably means you didn't update your PTR client
08:04.23Xinhuanrun the launcher.
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08:04.58ChompersMOAR
08:05.02Fisker-yay
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08:05.18Zhinjionope, they have the right version
08:05.26ZhinjioI'm not having the problem, but two of my friends are.
08:05.40Zhinjiothey are running 7441
08:05.46Tekkubwoah, fancy UI for blue there
08:06.31Xinhuanno idea then
08:06.38Xinhuantry a different guildbank in a different citY?
08:09.07Tekkubxin, promote me so I can steal all your shit
08:09.31Xinhuanwon't really do you good on a lvl 1!
08:11.07the-golemwtf
08:11.21the-golemBT3 is acting weird on my druid
08:11.30the-golemso is pitbull
08:13.37Orionshock_humm...
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08:17.20orionshockhehe fixed it i think, the tekKompare/cow tip thing
08:17.29orionshockturn off the cow tip appearance aspect
08:18.06CIA-1203ammo 07Ace3 * r52870 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: fix doubleclickcasting for deDE, please test GameFaq
08:18.51Tekkubmuahahahahahahaha!
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08:19.41Tekkubtake that guild bank!
08:19.48orionshockeh?
08:20.21mitchnullbtw, are the ocmbat-log related changes on PTR (unit ids and stuff)? or is that next patch?
08:20.32Tekkubnext
08:20.35mitchnull:(
08:22.12CIA-1203ackis * r52871 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua:
08:22.12CIA-12Babble-2.2:
08:22.12CIA-12- Added all crafting recipes
08:22.12CIA-12- enUS done by Ackis, frFR done by Pettigrow, and zhCN done by icat
08:22.28orionshockTekkub: what did you do to the guild bank?
08:24.30Tekkubnothing
08:24.36TekkubI hate my idiot roomie
08:24.50Tekkubyou know the long "fits in fridge" soda 12-packs?
08:25.16Tekkubif you stand em up you can fit 6 of those in our mini fridge, open the end, pull one out...
08:25.29Tekkubhe doesn't like it cause he thinks it's gonna fall over (never has)
08:25.30kebinusanCan you increase the range that nameplates show up at
08:25.37Tekkubso he buys soda and unboxes em all
08:25.54Tekkubmanages to get 4 boxes in, and it's all stacked so fucked up that they DO fall over
08:26.07Gngskheh
08:26.19Tekkubleave in box == least amount of effert
08:26.31CIA-1203ackis * r52872 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files):
08:26.31CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
08:26.31CIA-12- Moved all recipe info from own localization files into Babble-Tradeskill-2.2 (moved enUS, frFR and znCH)
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08:27.33Gngskany rogues here using pickpocket macro notice it won't pickup second/third item in loot window since 2.2?
08:27.47BejittTekkub: he needs charts and graphs to be convinced
08:28.04Tekkubno, he needs to stop being an r-tard with my fridge
08:28.12Bejittthat too
08:28.40Tekkubhell he coulda stuck the shelves in and at least it wouldn't collapse if you take a can out
08:29.26Ackisfiles.wowace.com will update in about 10 minutes correct? (it's every 20 minutes?)
08:29.46kebinusanAnyone know offhand if you can stack your 2pc set bonus from two different gladiator sets in 2.3
08:30.00Ackiskebunusan: no
08:30.17Gngskall gladiator items regardless of season will be considered the same set in 2.3
08:30.37kebinusanwell I mean such if you have two different sets like dreadweave and felweave
08:30.39Gngskso you can have 1 season 1 item, and 1 season 2 item and get the 2p bonus
08:30.45Gngskoh
08:30.55Gngskthat's an interesting question
08:31.01SroshThat you can.
08:32.17orionshockGngsk: pp macro?
08:32.38Gngskyah, like /cast pick pocket /stopcasting /cast pick pocket
08:32.38SroshIf the set's name is different, they can be stacked. Blizz just named all s1/s2/s3 spec sets the same, i.e. Gladiator's blabla. (Which fucks wowhead's set pages up, but heh. *g*)
08:32.44Gngskused to loot everything, now you only get coin
08:33.04orionshockGngsk: ... no macro - turn auto loot on
08:33.13orionshockworks a lot better
08:33.14Gngskit's on
08:33.22orionshockok, no macro
08:33.25orionshockworks better
08:33.34Gngskyou must not understand what I'm saying
08:33.41Gngskyou just cheapshot and it auto pickpockets
08:33.53orionshock?
08:34.08Gngskhmm, nvm
08:34.11Gngskjust got a piece of cheese
08:34.14Gngskmust be a latency issue
08:34.23orionshocksometimes the laziness of others surprises even me ... a lazy man.
08:34.38kebinusanyou can set/unset autoloot in your cheapshot pickpocket macro too
08:34.41CIA-1203nargiddley 07Alpha * r52873 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Disabled groups show as disabled in the tree
08:35.04Gngskyah, I have no need for that though. I just always keep autoloot on
08:35.14orionshocktell me what's the real advantage to doing ANY of that?  you walk up to a mob, sap it, pp it, then cheep shot it....
08:35.42orionshockpp is designed for you to be STEALTH ED... if your not - pp can't go off nor complete.
08:35.46Gngskcause it's easier to just cheapshot it
08:36.02orionshockand pressing an extra button is hard? or difficult?
08:36.09orionshocktime consuming maybe?
08:36.23Gngskyeah,w aste of time
08:36.33Gngskbut I guess I'll keep doing it cuz I'm missing a lot of junkboxes
08:36.53kebinusanits jsut being efficient
08:37.18orionshockthe premise here that your implying is that by chaining pp to cheep shot your saving time.. and by your own admission your not getting all the loot in a pp by doing so....
08:37.48Gngskhence my original question
08:37.49Gngsksince 2.2
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08:38.37orionshockit's prolly because the mechanic is that pp goes off and completes while your in stealth, and blizard 'fixed' this glitch in 2.2
08:38.53Gngskexcept I got a piece of cheese a few min ago
08:38.55Gngskbut I miss moste items
08:39.31orionshocki guess what im trying to say is "Don't chain them.. you'll get everything if you don't"
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08:44.39CIA-1203next96 * r52874 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua):
08:44.40CIA-12Cartographer:
08:44.40CIA-12- Update locale koKR
08:45.15Ackisok... two questions... 1) how can I stop my cat from jumping on my computer desk every 30 secons and 2) if I composed a string in the format %s - [%s], how can I extract the first %s from that string later on?
08:45.56CartasAckis: Get a dog.
08:45.58ProvusI believe your second question answers the first.
08:46.30Fisker-ownt
08:46.54Ackislol
08:47.10CartasKill the cat.
08:47.12CartasYou don't need it.
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08:57.30Xinhuan2) "(.*) - \[.*\]"
08:57.49Xinhuanhmm
08:57.52Xinhuan2) "(.*) \- \[.*\]"
08:58.53Pheredhel1) how can I stop my cat from jumping on my computer desk every 30 secons : how comes your cat allows you to use his/her computer?
08:59.16Pheredhelyou don't really think that you own anything in your cat's house?
08:59.29Ackisgood point
09:00.23orionshocki got my house own'ed by a cat this weekend...
09:00.38orionshockstray cat shows up on my back porch at the apartment...
09:01.41orionshockit finally left after finding out that it shouldn't pounce my cigarette while im smoking it.
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09:06.33Xinhuanlua> string.match("hello world - [i'm so cool]" , "(.*) \- \[.*\]")
09:06.34cladbotXinhuan: nil,
09:06.38Industrialhow does it.. get to your cig?
09:06.39Xinhuanhmm
09:06.46Industrialjump? =P
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09:07.09Xinhuanlua> string.match("hello world - [i'm so cool]" , "(.*) %- %[.*%]")
09:07.09cladbotXinhuan: hello world,
09:07.13Xinhuanthere ackis
09:07.21Xinhuanforgot the escape code is % and not \
09:07.26Ackiswow i didn't know there was a lua interpretor here
09:07.33Ackisand thanks
09:08.04Xinhuanlua is not regexp T_T
09:08.06SunTsu.o0( % as escape char sounds like blasphemy to me )
09:09.12SunTsuXinhuan: It looks like regexp, just not the standard POSIX extendex regexp. There are enough regexp types, lua seems to have it's own style
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09:09.39Xinhuanlua's style is a bit too different from standards
09:10.12Industriallua calls them patterns
09:10.28Industrialthey didn't implement regex because that would be bigger then all of lua
09:10.51Industrialbut I still want regex :<
09:10.58Xinhuanthere's probably stuff in lua patterns that regexp couldn't do easily
09:11.11Xinhuan%w ?
09:11.24Xinhuanto match a word
09:11.46Industriallua patterns cant do OR's; (this|that)
09:11.50Industrialand that sucks.
09:11.53Xinhuanwould be equivalent to [a-zA-Z] i think?
09:11.58Industrialyeah
09:12.04Xinhuanwith a + behind
09:12.19SunTsuXinhuan: Most regewp knows \w+ for that ;)
09:13.17SunTsuregexp, too
09:15.18CIA-1203ackis * r52875 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files):
09:15.18CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
09:15.18CIA-12- Added recipe skill level information to gui (thanks Xinhuan)
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09:24.48ZhinjioIs it possible to create a frame in raw LUA (not XML), that is a template that will be then be used in the "inherits" field for future CreateFrame calls?
09:24.52ZhinjioIts gotta be.
09:25.03Nargiddleynope
09:25.26[Ammo]but you can mimick it witha  function
09:25.32Industrialyou can make a function that returns said frame though
09:25.53Industrial[Ammo]: :-)
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09:26.12CIA-1203jerry * r52876 10PitBull_AltAura/update.lua: PitBull_AltAura: fix offset calculation in non-invert mode.
09:26.21Zhinjiodo you know an addon that does that that I can go look at?
09:26.32Zhinjiothats surprising to me.
09:26.47Xinhuanits just a function that you create, that contains local frame = CreateFrame()
09:26.51ZhinjioI would have thought that LUA would be (in all cases) more versatile than what you could do in XML based creation
09:26.58Xinhuanthen you set a lot of frame:blahblah()
09:26.58Nargiddleyit is
09:27.00ZhinjioOH!
09:27.01ZhinjioI see.
09:27.03Xinhuanthen "return frame"
09:27.04[Ammo]function giveframebitch() local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); f.text = f:CreateFontString(); return f end
09:27.05Xinhuanat the end
09:27.19Zhinjioyeah yeah... I gotcha.
09:27.34Nargiddleythe only place i know of that this bites you is giving a template name to secure headers :/
09:27.50Nargiddleyunless they're fixed that one, been a while
09:28.03Xinhuanwhats the issue with that one Nargiddley?
09:28.20[Ammo]Nargiddley: yeah you have to have 1 small .xml for thqt
09:28.22Nargiddleythe headers want a Template name to create thier children from
09:28.24[Ammo]with an OnLoad on the template
09:28.24CIA-1203helium * r52877 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: ItemPriceTooltip: updated zhTW localization
09:28.33Xinhuanoh
09:28.35CIA-1203helium * r52878 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0: updated zhTW localization
09:28.38Xinhuani see
09:28.45CIA-1203helium * r52879 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0: updated zhTW localization
09:28.46Nargiddleyyeah, I did that with mainassist and then the same for ora2
09:28.53theoddone33I kinda want a death knight
09:28.57CIA-1203helium * r52880 10LibRockDB-1.0/LibRockDB-1.0.lua: LibRockDB-1.0: updated zhTW localization
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09:29.15CIA-1203helium * r52881 10Links/ (Links.lua Links.toc): Links: added zhTW localization
09:29.19[Ammo]I took it from mainassist for oRA2
09:29.22[Ammo]after asking :p
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09:29.38NargiddleyI know :P
09:29.40[Ammo]can probably be done better
09:29.41[Ammo]but shrug
09:29.48Nargiddleyit works
09:29.51[Ammo]set namelist, iterate children, populate
09:29.53[Ammo]or something
09:30.09Industrialdeath knight should be like necromancer in D2; bone army lulz
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09:31.38rjaymcan anyone tell me how do I get to the gui that has "Addon Preferences"
09:31.52rjaymand options for all the other addons
09:31.55Industrialrjaym: you mean with Waterfall?
09:31.57Ackistry /rock ?
09:32.08orionshockwtb rating buster w/ sorted TT
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09:32.26rjaymI can't figure out what addon it is that gives all those gui options as opposed to the command line ones
09:32.32rjaym<PROTECTED>
09:32.39rjaymwhich addon is rock
09:32.47Ackisit's a library
09:33.00rjaymis it called "rock"
09:33.49Industrialrjaym: theres different ones. All those isn't very descriptive :p
09:34.03Industrialrjaym: do the color options (if any) have many sliders?
09:34.23Xinhuansorted TT?
09:34.58rjaymwhen I type /rock it comes up
09:35.22rjaymoh wow, it's only active with Fubar
09:36.29CIA-1203jerry * r52882 10PitBull_AltAura/update.lua: PitBull_AltAura: debuff filling order follows the invert parameter.
09:38.30CIA-1203jerry * r52883 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add THREATREDUCTION friendly name in enUS.
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09:43.30baer_moin.
09:46.15CIA-1203ackis * r52884 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files):
09:46.15CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
09:46.15CIA-12- Changed the way recipes are linked to each other on the gui, should allow for font changes and whatnot
09:46.15CIA-12- Changed the way recipes are displayed in the gui when sorted by skill (it's now skill - recipe)
09:46.15CIA-12- Removed a line of code from scroll bar stuff, hope it doesn't break anything
09:46.46Ackisi love my comments.. "hope it doesn't break anything"... such confidence
09:47.07naturalgolem u there mate?
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09:50.07Xinhuanackis
09:50.10Xinhuani found your cat solution
09:50.14Xinhuan[10/22 17:49:19] <+Deadalious> For instance, the common painkiller paracetamol or acetaminophen, sold under brand names such as Tylenol and Panadol, is extremely toxic to cats; because they naturally lack enzymes needed to digest it, even minute portions of doses safe for Humans can be fatal
09:50.54Xinhuan[10/22 17:49:43] <+Jynx_> Panadol + Milk
09:50.54Xinhuan[10/22 17:49:46] <+Jynx_> Is the best catkiller ever
09:51.18Ackislol
09:51.23Xinhuan[10/22 17:50:17] <+SeraStew> Deada is going to post how fatal chocolate is to dogs next
09:51.36baer_is there a addon to show me, how many hp all members got?
09:51.53baer_s/members/raid members/g
09:52.26kebinusanraid frames?
09:52.28baer_in a nice list or something.
09:52.58clad|sleepthats about the most ambiguous questions I've heard in a while :P
09:53.00baer_kebinusan: not raidframes, i simply need a list, raid frames are far to complex. :)
09:53.28baer_cladhaire: the question was badly formed. :)
09:53.50Xinhuanwell pretty much such a list would work exactly like raidframes
09:53.52baer_i don't want to see it in a fight, but before the fight, to see which members have lowest max hp.
09:53.54cladhairealso, raid members don't "got" health, they "have" health.
09:54.47orionshockfollowing Toadkiller's example " who do i have to blow to get rating butster to sort the tool tip spell on top and melee stats on bottom?"
09:55.43kebinusannot it actually, but thanks for that
09:56.25kebinusanpve carebear sorry
09:56.38orionshockdid i mention one of them was a GM?
09:56.57orionshock:D
09:57.44kebinusanwell... in that case I'll get a credit issued for that oral treat
09:59.21orionshock?
09:59.59baer_^^
10:08.31Fisker-we could liek 31108 Chompers
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10:12.27aeon|capullomahlzeit
10:14.53kebinusanis there a way to change the default distance that nameplates show up at
10:20.26ccKepdid someone play around with the guild bank api?
10:21.52ccKepGetGuildBankItemLink doesn't seem to return an itemlink ^.^
10:22.11ccKep(or I'm just too stupid)
10:22.35orionshockkebinusan: no
10:22.46kebinusanping vhaarr
10:23.48kebinusanVhaarr: Suggestion for closetgnome or cg_mount when you zone into a place while mounted your set doesnt get switched back to your unmounted set.
10:24.51CIA-1203celellach * r52885 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua:
10:24.51CIA-12AtlasLoot:
10:24.51CIA-12- Added Shattered Hand Executioner
10:25.01kebinusanwell thats not phrased in the form of a suggestion, but you get the gist of it
10:25.21aeon|capulloBug in closetgnome: i cant save Night's End
10:25.38aeon|capullomaybe because of the ' ?
10:25.49CIA-1203celellach * r52886 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
10:25.49CIA-12AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
10:25.49CIA-12- Added Shattered Hand Executioner
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10:26.02ccKepworks fine here :O
10:26.47kebinusanif I zone into a bg on my flying mount and get dismounted by the zoning, I stay in my mount set
10:31.14Xinhuanworking as intended.
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10:43.43Ackiswhy do most gui examples have xml and lua in them? is there a reason to use xml over 100% lua code?
10:45.42MorghusIs there documentation for Omnibus, or is it borked at the moment?
10:46.34SunTsuMorghus: For me it works quite well. What are you looking for?
10:47.49MorghusThe Send To function. For some reason people receive blank pages.
10:47.52Xinhuanwhat kind of gui are you after?
10:47.59Morghus@ SunTsu
10:48.18SunTsuMorghus: OK, I never used it
10:48.27Xinhuanthe whole WoWEquip is done in LUA btw ;p
10:48.42Xinhuanthere's about 200 frames/buttons in that thing lol
10:49.06the-golemouch
10:49.22Xinhuanprobably more actually
10:52.12AckisYah Xinhuan, I've been looking at your code at times to figure out wtf i'm doing wrong lol
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10:54.12Xinhuanthe width is actually controlled by 1 variable at the top, 300
10:54.19Xinhuanthat's my width i think
10:54.21Xinhuanof the frame
10:54.33Xinhuanfor the equipment search frame
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10:56.09clad|awayAckis: because having XML and Lua both helps to seperate the creation of frames, but the logic and behavior of the frames
10:56.18clad|awaybut its personal preference really
10:56.28clad|awayI teach using both, because in the end I think it encourages better behavior.
10:56.34JoshBorkemorning clad
10:56.38clad|awaymorning
10:56.40clad|awaypeace out :P
10:56.42JoshBorkebye
10:56.44JoshBorkehave fun in class
10:57.10Xinhuani actually first wrote wowequip using XML and lua
10:57.23Xinhuanit wasn't until v0.4 or so that i rewrote the xml bit by bit into LUA
10:57.30Xinhuanuntil i could throw away the xml completely
10:57.36JoshBorkexml makes sense for some things
11:03.53MorghusSunTsu: How do you save the pages consistently? Me and a mate haven't found documentation yet, and some pages are saved, while some are not
11:04.34ZhinjioI just finished converting to pure LUA.
11:04.34SunTsuMorghus: Every Page I edit gets saved. Never had problems
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11:11.45Diaohmm
11:12.00Diaoanyone play priest in arenas?
11:12.19JoshBorkeif by play you mean die
11:12.40RaydenUnicyclisti play a priest
11:12.44RaydenUnicyclistand i have played in the arena
11:12.52RaydenUnicyclistactually in the under 70 arena
11:14.33Diaolol
11:14.49JoshBorkethen yes, i have died many times in an arena
11:14.51Diaowhen playing against priest i see them often using bubble/renew/ProM/binding
11:14.55Diaohow often do you use greater heal?
11:14.59JoshBorkespriest
11:15.02Diaooh
11:15.15JoshBorkegreater heal is too long
11:15.17Diaocause i've been armorying all the priests in top teams
11:15.19Diaoand for some weird reason
11:15.33Diaothey all get 3/3 improved healing
11:15.37Diaowhich i would think is entirely useless in arenas
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11:16.41AckisI use gheal to fake out the other team into CSing me
11:16.43MorghusSunTsu: Do you know of any documentation for Omnibus?
11:16.48AckisI start a cast and cancel it after a second
11:16.50MorghusRight now we have this problem with it:
11:16.53Diaobut the mana isn't spent
11:16.55Diaountil the actual cast
11:16.58Diaoso why get the talent?
11:17.20Ackisbut most often my job is to kite the other team, so all I'm casting is shield, renew, and PoM until i'm safe, then I'm manaburning
11:17.26SunTsuMorghus: Only the one with .lua in the name
11:17.40Diaowouldn't those points be better spent in like
11:17.42Ackisnot sure why they'd get it
11:17.44Diaoinspiration or something
11:18.01Ackiswait i get it also :P
11:18.07Ackisthey're filler points
11:18.07Diaolol
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11:18.27Diaoerh
11:18.28Diaostrange
11:19.06Ackisreally you only get 1 point in inspiration to screw up purge/dispells
11:19.16Ackisbut a priest doesn't focus on crit
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11:20.04Diaowouldn't something like this be better
11:20.04Diaohttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxrMuhgzMZfAxu0MoV0h
11:20.19Diaorather than putting points into imp healing :o
11:20.34Diaoafaik prom can also crit
11:20.49ProvusThe new glove bonus for priests makes 7/41/13 look like a fun battlegrounds build.. Mind Flay, 23 second psychic scream, blessed resilience, and martyrdom.
11:21.01Ackis6 of one, half a dozeon of another imo
11:21.53Diaocircle of healing?
11:22.07RaydenUnicyclistprom?
11:22.12Diaoprayer of mending
11:22.20RaydenUnicyclistfrisbee :)
11:22.52MorghusThe saving in Omnibus seems horribly inconsistent :(
11:23.33Provushttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bx0MZfEthbboizhoVMGz Weee.
11:23.48CIA-1203ackis * r52887 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enGB.lua ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua):
11:23.49CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
11:23.49CIA-12- Added tab for future use to GUI (for some reason it's not the full size)
11:23.49CIA-12- Added scan button that will start guiscan when clicked. This button will show up for crafting and tradeskill windows, however may throw an error when tradeskill mods are used
11:23.49CIA-12- Modified the closing function for the guiscan, still not working 100% for some reason
11:24.13Diaolol
11:24.23Diaooffensive holy build?
11:24.24Ackiswhat's that build for?
11:24.55Diaoseems to be for... everything o_O
11:25.05Ackisit's bad because it has lolwell in it :P
11:26.23Ackison a side note, when 2.3 hits live I'll be gaining 42 mp5 while casting
11:26.29ProvusIt'll be fun for farming honor.
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11:26.56ProvusWho the hell casts mana burn in a BG anyway.
11:27.00Diaoi do >.>
11:27.06Diaoon my 28/33 spec priest that i linked
11:27.08ProvusOnly because you have no spell damage.
11:27.14Provus2.3 is gonna change that.
11:27.19Diaoall i do is
11:27.27Diaoheal people, drop a SW:P and mana burn/MC
11:27.52ProvusChastise ftw.
11:28.04Diaobut i only play my priest to mess around in bgs
11:28.24Diaoi wonder if every bg daily quest will give 2k honor
11:28.29Diaothat'll make it so easy to farm the honor pieces
11:28.32ProvusI don't see what the point of having .5 second mass dispel in a BG is.
11:28.46Provus28/33/0 is all about being an arena healbot imo.
11:28.58Diaoit's fun
11:29.03Diaoespecially guarding LM solo
11:29.19Diaofear, pally bubbles, MD and MC right off the cliff
11:29.36ProvusThere's gonna be more deep disc and holy/shadow priests after the 2.3 patch. The +healing change is hyooge.
11:29.51ProvusAnd 23 psychic scream is tempting. So very tempting.
11:30.02Provus23s*
11:31.13ProvusHonor gear won't be as hard to come by with the addition of the battleground daily quest, supposedly it gives 2000 honor.
11:31.23Diaoyeah
11:31.25Diaowell
11:31.27Diaoat least the av one does
11:31.31Diaonobody knows about the others
11:31.34ProvusSo I'm hopin I get to the point where I can get all the silk items for my priest.
11:31.45ProvusAs well as the regular healbot items for arena
11:31.45Diao2k honor is a good 3-4 hours of pvp though, and if you can get that in 1 quest completion
11:31.54Diaoit'll make farming honor for multiple characters ridiculously easy
11:32.11Diaosince you only need ~78k honor to buy all 3 new vindicator's pieces + ring/neck
11:32.11ProvusNo doubt.
11:32.32Diaothen any extra honor can go to season 1 gear
11:32.48Diaoand since the new cloak is a badge requirement rather than honor
11:32.56Diaothat's even easier, since i farm heroics like nothing
11:33.02Diaoi've got like 400 badges saved up lol
11:33.03ProvusChastise is going to be so fun. I can't believe they're even adding it to the game.
11:33.23Diaothen they're making it even easier to get badges by giving them in kara and za
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11:33.39ProvusIt's on a half second GCD and the cast time is half a second. That means dwarf and draenei priests are going to be feared by druids in arena.
11:33.40Diaoi want to reroll alliance because the racials are so superior
11:33.47Diaobut my guild doesn't want to :(
11:33.56ProvusChastise into Mana Burn every 30 seconds.
11:33.58ProvusIt's crazy.
11:34.13Diaoyeah
11:34.23Diaoi quit my gnome warrior when they nerfed/buffed EA into instant cast
11:34.30Diaoi liked it as the .5s
11:34.34Diaocause it didn't activate gcd
11:35.18RaydenUnicyclistchastise?
11:35.32Fisker-i quit world of warcraft when WotF was nerfed
11:35.35Diaonew dwarf/draenei ability
11:35.40Diaofor priest racial
11:35.41RaydenUnicyclistthe holy dmg/stun one?
11:35.43Diaoyea
11:35.47ProvusThey're spreading around fear ward after the patch (and making it suck) so they're giving dwarves and draenei a new spell and it's insanely good.
11:35.47Diaoit's not a stun actually
11:35.56Diaoit's a incapacitate or something
11:36.02RaydenUnicyclistlike sap
11:36.05RaydenUnicyclistbreaks on dmg
11:36.05Diaoyea
11:36.05ProvusThe big thing is it's not on the GCD.
11:36.06Diaoor gouge
11:36.10Fisker-couldn't keep them underpowered Provus
11:36.20Fisker-they're alliance after all
11:36.22RaydenUnicyclisti'd rather get the undead priest racials spells personally
11:36.26Provuslol.
11:36.30Diaofor a shadowpriest yes rayden
11:36.33Diaobut well
11:36.35RaydenUnicyclistthan either the fear ward or the dmg one?
11:36.35Diaotouch of weakness is worthless
11:36.40DiaoDP is sexy though
11:36.46RaydenUnicyclistDP?
11:36.48ProvusDevouring Plague is nice but at a 3 minute cooldown and an obscene mana cost it's not that good, really the only reason to go undead priest is Will of the Forsaken imo.
11:36.49RaydenUnicyclisti like my shadowguard
11:36.49Fisker-DP is worthless
11:36.50Diaodevouring plague
11:36.59Diaoit's lots of extra burts
11:37.04Fisker-it's mana cost is insane
11:37.07ProvusHave you seen the new Night Elf spell?
11:37.08Diaoespecially for spri/lock 2v2 combo
11:37.10RaydenUnicyclisthow much?
11:37.10ProvusWell it's not new per se.
11:37.16Diaothe changed elune's grace?
11:37.21Diaoit's pretty sick too
11:37.25ProvusBut Star Shards is being turned into an instant dot - that costs no mana, and it's only on a 30 second cooldown
11:37.25ProvusAND
11:37.27Diaoincreased miss
11:37.30ProvusThey changed Elune's Grace
11:37.34Diaoon ranged and melee
11:37.39RaydenUnicyclisti just want spirit to do something
11:37.59ProvusHuman priests are kinda sad.
11:38.03Diaoit's not like alliance needs any more help in pvp.. their racials are superior already :\
11:38.09RaydenUnicyclistalliance in general is kind of sad
11:38.10RaydenUnicyclist:P
11:38.21JoshBorke:-(
11:38.22Diaohonestly all the top pvpers are alliance
11:38.27Diaoit's just that the majority of them suck
11:38.39ProvusI still can't believe alliance is still freaking complaining about horde racials while they go and drink stealthed in the corner of the arena.
11:39.11Diaohorde racials are terrible for arena for the most part
11:39.51ProvusI wouldn't go that far.
11:39.58Diaowell
11:40.00ProvusExcept for Trolls.
11:40.10Provuslol at 10% health regeneration.
11:40.12Diaoorc stun resist is kinda nice sometimes
11:40.16Diaobloodfury is absolutely worthless
11:40.23Diaobecause the moment you pop it everyone FFs you and you die
11:40.35ProvusWhen you're mortal striked you might as well pop it.
11:40.50Diaowell i play a warrior so
11:40.54Diaoit's not often that i get MSed
11:40.57ProvusYou know what ticks me off? The hunter forum. I can't believe they're whining about their obscene buffs.
11:41.01Diaosince warriors generally don't fight each other first
11:42.08Diaowotf is decent.. not all that great cause you rarely ever get charmed and fear is so easy to break anyway
11:42.20Provuslol what?
11:42.40JoshBorkelolwut
11:42.56JoshBorkehttp://gallery.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/main.php?g2_itemId=757
11:43.02ProvusDude I play an undead frost mage as my mage currently (won't after the patch). I have 4 damn fear breaks.
11:43.05RaydenUnicyclistwhich troll racial is nice? the speed increase one?
11:43.15ProvusNot a match goes by with a warlock in it that I dont' get a max duration fear stuck on my ass atleast once.
11:43.23Diaolol
11:43.30Diaoi have no problems with fear as a warrior :\
11:43.47MorghusCould anyone take a look at Omnibus and tell me how it saves things? The only reliable way of saving what we've written so far is to open and close the editor through the Fubar-icon.
11:43.49ProvusI'm serious. The problem is warlock dots. They're numerous and tick for smaller amounts than the kinds of dots priests use.
11:44.00Diaoand when i play paladin in arena it's too easy to break one with trinket, bubble, then immune
11:44.04Diaoand you can easily los fear
11:44.07Diaoor interrupt it
11:44.13RaydenUnicyclistProvus the priest dot: SW:P is probably the best in the game
11:44.23ProvusBest and worst imo.
11:44.24RaydenUnicyclistbut we only have one
11:44.28ProvusIt would be so much better if it were two spells.
11:44.28DiaoVT!
11:44.35RaydenUnicyclistworst how?
11:44.44ProvusVampiric Touch and Shadow Word Pain tick big. So big that it breaks fear really fasy.
11:44.45Provusfast*
11:44.53RaydenUnicyclistoh
11:44.58ProvusWhile warlocks, putting 4 dots on your ass, you'll be running around for 10 seconds.
11:45.03ProvusBecause they're smaller, but numerous.
11:45.17RaydenUnicyclistmy friend says his fears never last full length
11:45.17ProvusThey need to retool fear.
11:45.30RaydenUnicyclistfear is a weird mechanic
11:45.42ProvusThere needs to be a threshold.
11:45.42RaydenUnicyclistas is stun
11:45.57RaydenUnicyclistclass time, cya
11:45.59ProvusInstead of basing fear breaks off a single tick of a dot, have it have more chance to break the more damage someone takes.
11:46.01Diaolater
11:46.23Diaoi dunno
11:46.36Diaoalliance racials are just so much more useful in arena than horde ones atm
11:46.43Diaowhich is why i guess gnomes get nerfed finally
11:46.55Industrialhow do they get nerfed
11:47.03Diaoea going from 1 min to 1:45 cd
11:47.04IndustrialI should read patch notes
11:47.29Diaoit's still not a bad racial
11:47.34Diaojust not as cheap as it is currently :p
11:48.10ProvusEscape Artist as it is now is kind of obscene in how often you use it in a fight.
11:48.14Diaoi'm looking forward to the fear ward nerf as well
11:48.21Diaobecause charging into a group of 5 alli in arena
11:48.23Diaoand blowing inti shout
11:48.27Diaoand seeing 5x immune pop up
11:48.29Diaowas gay
11:48.54ProvusTwo dwarf priests?
11:48.58Ackisyah they give fear ward to horde, nerf it to hell, then they give an even better racial to the alliance priests... gfg
11:49.01ProvusIt has a 30 second cooldown.
11:49.04Diaodraenei
11:49.16ProvusYeah Chastise is sick sick sick.
11:49.21ProvusThey should have given it to all priests.
11:49.25Diaowell
11:49.34Diaoif you load arena instantly
11:49.37Diaoyou actually have 2 minutes
11:49.41Diaoinstead of just 1 for preparation
11:49.48ProvusIt's nice that shadow got an arena buff.
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11:50.03Ackisisn't fear ward 3 min cool down, with a 3 min duration now?
11:50.07Diaoyep
11:50.11Ackisor will be in 2.3
11:50.30Diaojust means that alliance tanks
11:50.35Diaowill finally have to learn how to stancedance ;p
11:50.39Azureand what do alliance get?
11:50.45ProvusGoing out of shadowform giving you a GCD has been part of the game since the beginning
11:50.46Azure*does
11:50.56ProvusNow that they're finally removing it, shadow priest survivability is gonna go up
11:51.04Diaowait what
11:51.13Diaothey're removing gcd on form switch for priest?
11:51.19ProvusFor leaving shadowform
11:51.36Diaoare they doing the same for druids
11:51.51ProvusI'm not sure.
11:51.58ProvusI know they're doing something to the cancelform.
11:52.39Diaoah
11:53.11Diaoi still think draenei priests are the most op race/class combo in the game at this point for both pve and pvp
11:53.15Diao:(
11:53.20ProvusDwarf is better.
11:53.34Diaowell stoneform is nice against rogues
11:53.45Diaobut 1% spellhit aura and aoe mana restore?
11:53.51ProvusAnd hunters, which are going to be more arena viable.
11:54.05ProvusSymbol of Hope is way OP for pve yeah
11:54.10ProvusBut it's not as huge in pvp
11:54.15Diaoplus GotN
11:54.19Diaofor extra healing
11:54.46ProvusDesperate Prayer.
11:54.46Diaohowever
11:54.54Ackishunters are going to be so op now
11:54.58Diaostoneform is taking a minor nerf in terms of rogues
11:55.00Diaoin 2.3
11:55.04Ackisi'll just spam my sit key when they attack me
11:55.05Diaosince blind will be physical rather than poison
11:55.14Diaono more dwarf priests breaking blind
11:55.15ProvusYeah, but with hunters getting buffed you'll see more hunters in arena, and stoneform is useful against viper sting.
11:55.23Diaoyeah
11:55.34ProvusStoneform is still going to be useful for removing 5 stacks of wound poison.
11:55.42ProvusAs well as bleeds.
11:56.01ProvusFeral druids do a lot of bleed damage and they're getting buffed.
11:56.02Ackisneed to give priests the ability to cleanse poisons imo
11:56.13Diaoaren't they just doing an AP increase for druids
11:56.20Diaono high rated druids play feral anyway
11:56.22Diaothey're all resto
11:56.24ProvusThey retooled their feral stuff.
11:56.33ProvusSo it's all tooled to hitting like a truck.
11:56.37Diaolol
11:56.54ProvusFeral druids are pretty nice in 2v2.
11:57.01Diaoi'm generally not even worried about feral druids
11:57.17the-golemhi diao
11:57.21Diaohey
11:57.27ProvusThey really, really need to increase the cost of shifting forms.
11:57.32ProvusTravel form in arena is stupid good.
11:57.37Diaofor travel form maybe
11:57.43Diaotheir other forms are already pretty expensive
11:57.49evlyeah, travel form rocks
11:57.52evlstun -> dead druid :D
11:57.53Diaoit's travel form combined with high mana pool of a resto druid
11:57.55Diaothat makes it amazing
11:57.56the-golemthere is a gcd for shifting out of forms?
11:58.17the-golemcuz i was fiddling with my 16 druid which i hate
11:58.20Diaoi dunno, haven't played druid since pre-bc
11:58.26Diaoand there was gcd back then
11:58.30ProvusWell I'm going to mostly retire my frost mage in 2.3 until frost is looked at by Blizz again.
11:58.31aeon|capullowhere i can post a bug from closetgnome?
11:58.32Diaoshift out, wait 1.5s to heal yourself
11:58.41the-golemand i could pop out of bear and cast a spell like that *snaps fingers*
11:58.45Diaooh
11:58.49Diaopossibly they changed in bc
11:58.54the-golemwell
11:58.56Diaohaven't touched my druid since then
11:58.58the-golemit was a moonfire
11:59.01the-golemso idk
11:59.01Diaolol
11:59.08Diaofrost is broken as hell right now
11:59.10Diaowhy would you retire it
11:59.16vhaarraeon|capullo: to me
11:59.20ProvusYou kidding?
11:59.28aeon|capulloi cant save the item "Night's End"
11:59.32ProvusFrost mages are in dire straits right now.
11:59.36the-golem...
11:59.43the-golemicelance ftw
11:59.46aeon|capullomaybe because of the '?
11:59.48Diao^
11:59.52ProvusWe're too damn easy to line of sight. We have a big dependency on either an unstable affliction warlock or rogue right now.
12:00.05ProvusIce lance alone won't kill a healer that's running around a pillar.
12:00.07the-golemyeah umm
12:00.17Diaouhh
12:00.19the-golemwe had an all mage WSG once
12:00.19DiaoLoS?
12:00.26the-golemit was over in like 5 minutes
12:00.28Diaobring out that water elemental
12:00.32Diaoranged nova
12:00.34Diaospam icelance
12:00.36Diaoblink next to the healer
12:00.38Diaofrost nova
12:00.40Diaospam icelance
12:00.42Diaodead healer
12:00.44aeon|capullowhen i shift-click a set and update this slot i still have the old cloak in the set
12:00.46Provushaha no.
12:01.03the-golemand they won
12:01.12ProvusPriests spam dispel on themselves, doing all that ends up wasting my mana and my water elemental never gets a single bolt off,
12:01.21Diaomy warrior has 11k unbuffed hp in pvp gear, 260? resil
12:01.22ProvusPaladins use freedom and start cleansing themselves,
12:01.36ProvusDruids shift out of everything.
12:01.40Diaoa frost mage killed me before my pally partner could get in range to freedom
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12:02.03the-golemsorta
12:02.07Diaosheep pally, novaed me, icelance crit 3x for 2.5k each, followed by frostbolt
12:02.11the-golemthey can /cancelform while stunned
12:02.12the-golembut
12:02.16Diaoand water elemental beating me up the entire time
12:02.16the-golemthey are still stunned ^^
12:02.20ProvusThe only healer I can catch reliably is shaman, but they can lesser healing wave spam themselves and earth shield makes it difficult to stop.
12:02.55Diaowhy would you focus on the healer first anyway.. sheep em and kill their partner :p
12:03.00SunTsuProvus: That's not right, a hunters ice trap an't be shifted out
12:03.06Provus..uh?
12:03.09ProvusI'm not a hunter.
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12:03.51orionshockFINALLY got curator down :D
12:03.56Diaograts
12:04.04Josh_Borkegrats!
12:04.07ProvusKill the water elemental.
12:04.08the-golemorionshock: woot
12:04.10ProvusA warrior will 2-shot it easy.
12:04.12ProvusSeriously.
12:04.13Diaouh
12:04.16orionshockour 10th attempt over 4 sessions and 3 weeks
12:04.19Diaoget to the water elemental first
12:04.22Diaois the problem
12:04.35Diaoand when mage is on opposite side of arena from the elemental
12:04.37ProvusThat really takes so much coordination? What do you play?
12:04.42Diaouh
12:04.43Diaowarrior
12:04.54Diaofrost mage's easy kill class :\
12:05.00ProvusIntercept mage. Kill water elemental.
12:05.09Diaomost mages i play
12:05.12Diaopop water elemental
12:05.12ProvusIt'll be right next to him most of the time.
12:05.14Diaoand move away from it
12:05.15Diaoimmediately
12:05.39Diaootherwise i'd sweeping strikes/ww it down
12:05.39ProvusThen intercept the damn elemental. It's really better off dead.
12:05.48Diaoand while i'm killing the elemental
12:05.52Diaoi'm getting icelanced/frostbolted
12:06.09ProvusThat's why you have healers. You will take more damage if you let it live.
12:06.40Diaodoesn't work all that well when the healer is sheeped early
12:06.42Diao:\
12:06.55Diaoof course
12:07.00the-golemSPELL REFLECT SHEEP!
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12:07.01Diaoi don't run with ezmode resto druid partner
12:07.01the-golem:P
12:07.19Diaoi could probably have a chance against frost mage team if i had a resto druid for 2s
12:07.34ProvusFrost mage sucks in 2's.
12:07.36ProvusSeriously.
12:07.47ProvusWe're almost as bad as hunters. In 2.3 we'll be worse.
12:07.54Diaothey're amazing in 3s too
12:08.00Diaoi run with pally/lock
12:08.07SunTsu.o0( Greatest duel, 2 mages, both do sheep in the beginning, both succeed )
12:08.12Diaoand we get wrecked by holy priest/frost mage/combat rogue
12:08.22Diaoevery time we come up against a team like that we just get completely wrecked
12:08.31Provus3's is the only thing frost mage is really good at, but you got to understand that the reason we're good in 3's is because the other dps slot is always filled with a dependency, and we still have room for a healer.
12:08.39ProvusWe need an unstable affliction warlock or a rogue.
12:08.48ProvusOtherwise our damage is too damn easy to get away from and mitigate.
12:08.50the-golemsince when do hunters suck?
12:08.59the-golemmy hunter is awesomeleetness :-)
12:09.04ProvusSince they added pillars to arena.
12:09.06Diaofrost mage + combat rogue
12:09.09Diaois stupid good
12:09.13ProvusIt's also stupid fragile.
12:09.19Diaouhh
12:09.20ProvusNo healer to support it.
12:09.23Diaoer
12:09.25Diaoin 3s
12:09.27Diaowith a healer :P
12:09.29ProvusYes, it is stupid good.
12:09.35Diaoi even put on my sword/shield
12:09.35ProvusThat's why it's been dubbed the holy trinity.
12:09.46Diaoand tried thunderclap/demo shout on the rogue + spellreflect the mage
12:09.50Diaoand still died in 15sec
12:10.06ProvusGot to kill the water elemental man. Seriously. Those shatter combos hurt too damn much.
12:10.13ProvusIntercept it if you have to. It's worth it.
12:10.14the-golemtheres a reason why i dont arena/pvp :P
12:10.18Diaoimo
12:10.22Diaomake icelance break nova
12:10.27Diaoor put a couple sec cd on it
12:10.30Provusimo it already breaks nova most of the time.
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12:10.38Diaoi should fraps my arenas
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12:10.47Diaoat least half the time against a frost mage
12:10.52Diaothey will get 3 icelances off before it breaks
12:10.54Diaoand every single one will crit
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12:11.00ProvusProbably because you have stacked resilience.
12:11.15ProvusLess damage we do, frost nova has a lower chance to break.
12:11.21Diaomm
12:11.29Diao2k is the lowest crit i've seen
12:11.33Diaoso far :\
12:11.42ProvusWe're very susceptible to pillar kiting though. If it's JUST the frost mage on you, you can make his life very difficult.
12:11.49Diaooh
12:11.52Diaothis one time
12:12.00Diaoi intercepted the shaman healer
12:12.02Diaobehind a pillar
12:12.05the-golemProvus : pillar kiting = line of sight?
12:12.09Diaoand somehow the frost mage STILL hit me with frostbolt
12:12.11Diaothrough the pillar
12:12.17ProvusLatency.
12:12.17Diaoi was kinda pissed at that one
12:12.20Diaouh
12:12.27Diaomy latency generally hovers around 16ms
12:12.36ProvusIf we could shoot through pillars we wouldn't have problems dealing with it.
12:12.42Diaoi live like 30 miles from the server cluster :\
12:12.51the-golemlol u lucky dawg
12:13.01Diaomy lowest latency
12:13.04ProvusDude it would've been anyone's spell that hit you at that point.
12:13.04Diaowas 8ms at one point
12:13.07Diaothat was pretty sweet
12:13.07ProvusNot just frost mage's.
12:13.17ProvusIt was a freak occurence, you probably intercepted the moment it was thrown out.
12:13.19aeon|capulloi have to use socks proxy to lower my latency
12:13.22Diaocould be
12:13.32Diaokinda sucks that
12:13.35Diaothe pally heal went up at the same time
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12:13.40ProvusKill water elementals, and pillar kite a frost mage.
12:13.41Diaoand combat log didn't record it
12:13.42ProvusCharge him.
12:13.45Diaolike
12:13.49Diaohis mana dropped
12:13.52Diaoas though he'd healed me
12:13.53ProvusVery important you get a charge off against a mage.
12:13.56Diaobut i never received it :\
12:13.59Diaoyeah
12:14.08Diaoit's easiest to charge mages for some reason
12:14.13Diaolocks priests hunters
12:14.15Diaoare much harder
12:14.24the-golemumm
12:14.25ProvusThe only way to keep you from charging reliably is to blow counterspell.
12:14.27Diaoi guess since mages only extended range instacast is counterspell
12:14.31ProvusThat's not something we're keen on doing in arena.
12:14.35Diaoand wasting that on a warrior to prevent charge is :p
12:14.35ProvusIce lance takes too long to get to you.
12:14.51the-golemhow do you counterspell an instant?
12:14.53ProvusUsually what I do is I approach mounted, and throw a ice lance while backpedalling
12:14.56Diaouh
12:14.58ProvusThen move back in and do a rank 1 frostbolt
12:15.00DiaoCS puts us in combat the-golem
12:15.01ProvusThen sheep.
12:15.02Diaoso we can't charge
12:15.07the-golemah
12:15.09the-golemwell
12:15.12the-golemintercept then
12:15.15the-golem^^
12:15.15Diaoyeah but
12:15.18Diaoyou don't want to burn your intercept
12:15.20Diaobefore a mage blinks
12:15.27Diaoif you do then you'll get kited to death
12:15.34ProvusIf you ever duel a frost mage, I'll tell you this one thing, we're not as big a counterclass to warriors as you might think.
12:15.47the-golem...
12:15.48ProvusThere's a method to fighting us.
12:15.51ProvusAs a warrior.
12:15.55Diaoi've yet to beat a frost mage without using frost reflector :(
12:15.56the-golemlol
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12:16.17the-golemive yet to beat a frost mage period
12:16.19the-golembut
12:16.25Diaofrost reflector really helps lol
12:16.29the-golemi dont pvp/duel often
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12:16.43Diaotoo bad it isn't all that good at 70
12:16.45ProvusCharge the frost mage, first of all, if you don't get the charge off it's going to be an uphill battle.
12:16.48Zhinjioman I'm tired now. I can't do math in my head anymore.
12:16.58ProvusALWAYS wait until the mage uses his GCD to intercept.
12:17.00the-golemnot when they spam icelance / arcane nova
12:17.02LothaerG'Day
12:17.17Diaoi tend to be extremely unlucky against frost mages though
12:17.18ProvusI've seen so many warriors wait until I'm almost done casting something to intercept.
12:17.21Diaolike
12:17.22ZhinjioG'morning Lothaer
12:17.22ProvusIt's not smart.
12:17.29Diaoi'll get caught by 4 frostbites in a row
12:17.33Lothaerrofl
12:17.35Diaoeven though it's supposedly only a 15% proc
12:17.36ProvusYou need to intercept the moment you see our hands light up so we can't blink away before you hamstring.
12:17.43Diaowell
12:17.46Diaoif the warrior is good
12:17.51Diaothey'll have hamstring queued already
12:17.58Diaoso the moment they hit you with intercept hamstring lands at the same time
12:18.05Diaowhether or not you're in gcd
12:18.10ProvusNot really.
12:18.17Diaoi combo charge/hamstring all the time
12:18.18ProvusIt won't land if we blink fast enough.
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12:18.41Diaothe most amusing part
12:18.44Diaois when i intercept
12:18.45ProvusThat's why you need to intercept inside of a mage's GCD, so he can't avoid it.
12:18.47Diaoa mage blinks
12:18.50Diaoand mace stun goes off
12:18.54Diaobut he's like 20 yards away
12:18.59Diaogiving me time to run over and smack him
12:19.06ProvusAlways have Second Wind and Tactical Mastery.
12:19.11Diaobut then he usually novas me or iceblocks
12:19.15vhaarraeon|capullo: if you said anything to me, I didn't get it, you need to prefix your messages with my nick
12:19.25Diaowho pvps without second wind
12:19.28Diao:(
12:19.32aeon|capulloah, ok:P
12:19.37the-golemme!
12:19.40Diaolol
12:19.41ProvusI've seen plenty of 31/30/0 warriors.
12:19.41the-golemoh wait
12:19.45the-golemim a raid tank
12:19.46Diao33/28 > 31/30
12:19.50aeon|capullovhaarr: i cant save the item "Night's End"
12:19.51the-golemso no im lying
12:19.53aeon|capullobetter? :P
12:19.55Fisker-vhaarr i made you a nukelear bomb but i ated it :(
12:20.00Diaoextra 2 points in flurry is worse than second wind by far
12:20.06Provus33/25/3 is what I think all warriors should spec for arena.
12:20.09aeon|capullovhaarr: maybe because of the '?
12:20.16Diao33/28 with imp slam
12:20.19Diaois actually pretty amazing
12:20.20the-golem33/0/28 shieldwall spec anyone? :P
12:20.23Diaolol
12:20.24aeon|capullovhaarr: when i shift-click a set and update this slot i still have the old cloak in the set
12:20.47ProvusDon't laugh, 35/5/21 is going to be viable in 2.3 due to the talent movements.
12:20.56Diaoeh
12:21.02Diaothat's the "i'm too cheap or lazy to respec" spec
12:21.06ProvusNo
12:21.14ProvusIt's not a tanking build by any means.
12:21.21Diaoit's an OT/heroic tanking build
12:21.24Diaonot a raid tank obviously
12:21.24ProvusNo no.
12:21.41ProvusThey're swapping death wish and sweeping strikes and weapon mastery and improved intercept.
12:21.44Zhinjiolua> num = 7; if ( ( floor( num / 2 ) ) == ( floor ( (num+1)/2 ) ) ) then print "foo" else print "bar" end
12:21.45cladbotZhinjio: bar
12:21.45the-golemits an "i arena and tank if i have to" spec
12:21.52Diaomeh
12:21.58Zhinjiolua> num = 8; if ( ( floor( num / 2 ) ) == ( floor ( (num+1)/2 ) ) ) then print "foo" else print "bar" end
12:21.59cladbotZhinjio: foo
12:22.02Zhinjiogood.
12:22.09CIA-1203ackis * r52891 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
12:22.09CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
12:22.09CIA-12- Fix for Frozen Shadoweave Robe
12:22.09CIA-1203ammo 07Ace3 * r52892 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: plumbing for lures
12:22.09ProvusThat means that you will see some warriors in arena boasting 35/5/21 in the next patch, sacrificing damage for concussion blow.
12:22.28ProvusNot to mention last stand.
12:22.34Diaosad that the swap was supposed to get warriors to go 41 into arms
12:22.37Diaoand it failed miserably
12:22.41ProvusYup.
12:22.43the-golemlol
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12:23.23the-golemim just happy for the devastate fix
12:23.26Diaosame
12:23.33Diaoi'd like a minor buff to our vitality though
12:23.41the-golemalthough, id be happy if they upped teh damage a wee bit
12:23.46Diaodefiance having 6 weapon expertise
12:23.48aeon|capullovhaarr_: i have to repeat it again? :P
12:23.50Diaowill also help our threat a lot
12:23.52ProvusI really love my frost mage but when you really start to play it arena you realize it's got a lot of weaknesses that need a crutch to overcome.
12:24.01the-golemwe're getting 6 expertise
12:24.16Diao3% extra hit for free
12:24.16the-golemlol
12:24.26the-golemnot hit
12:24.30the-golemhit is for miss
12:24.32Diaoit's extra hit over the hit cap
12:24.38Diaowell yeah
12:24.38ProvusWe need a rogue or affliction warlock, or otherwise we can't get any damage flow going against half the teams.
12:24.40aeon|capulloProvus: you ever tried deep arcan for pvp?
12:24.41Diaotechnically it's not hit
12:24.44ProvusEw.
12:24.46the-golemits for dodge/parry
12:24.47evlexpertise is the only way to eliminate the 5% dodge?
12:24.48Diaobut theoretically it works similar to hit
12:24.56the-golemyeah
12:25.00Diaoit gives us a higher chance to hit our target
12:25.02ProvusWell, I actually considered 40/0/21 for a little bit, because I saw this arcane mage spitting out huge numbers in duels.
12:25.03Diaoby reducing dodge and parry
12:25.05the-golemit works the same but for dodge/parry instead of miss
12:25.11ProvusBut  Mystical Skyfire Diamond is getting nerfed hard
12:25.12Diaowhich is huge for tanks
12:25.15the-golemyes
12:25.17Diaobecause if you get 9% hit on your gear
12:25.21Diaoand stack it with weapon expertise
12:25.25Diaoyour threat generation jumps considerably
12:25.31the-golemi have zero +hit
12:25.32ProvusIf Mystical Skyfire Diamond were not getting nerfed I suspect I would have tried 40/0/21
12:25.33the-golem:-(
12:25.37Diaowell
12:25.39Diaobefore like
12:25.39aeon|capulloi made yesterday some duels with a SL warlock
12:25.40the-golemfucking kings wont drop
12:25.42Diaobt level gear
12:25.46the-golemimma cry
12:25.46Diaoonly hit stuff is really kings
12:25.55Diaohonestly i still swap between KD and SE
12:25.58Diaoon some fights
12:26.00the-golemkings and the shield from nightbane
12:26.13Diaoi just use the exalted sha'tar shield
12:26.14aeon|capullodeep arcan with 341 shadowresi
12:26.15Diaomore stam
12:26.16the-golemi'd sac some stam gems for some +hit
12:26.20Diaowaiting on the gruul shield
12:26.20the-golemDiao: yeah i got that
12:26.21aeon|capullowas funny
12:26.34ProvusDoes shadow resist keep him from mana draining you
12:26.49Diaolike on gruul for example i use KD in the beginning
12:26.59Provus-shrug- Moonrunner has a really crappy auction house so try as I might, I couldn't complete my shadow resist set. I actually farmed Dark Ring of Magic and Dark Cloak of Magic too.
12:27.01Diaountil he hits around 25-30% health
12:27.03the-golemi got sun eater :-/
12:27.05Diaothen i swap to SE
12:27.11Diaoextra threat in beginning, more mitigation later
12:27.13ProvusBut with the new staff coming up next season, wearing shadow resist in pvp is going to suck.
12:27.15Diaobecause he hits like a freaking truck
12:27.21the-golemyeah
12:27.24Provus35 spell penetration plus the new pvp ring. 69 spell penetration right off the bat.
12:27.24the-golemi noticed today
12:27.28the-golemthat he hits hardest
12:27.30the-golemat like
12:27.33Provus59 rather
12:27.37the-golem30-40 percent
12:27.40kebinusan+20 to cloak
12:27.40aeon|capulloprovus: we killed yesterday Mother Shahraz
12:27.47Diaoyea
12:27.52aeon|capulloso you need shadowresi
12:27.52ProvusOh right, cloak. 79.
12:27.57Diaoso i swap to SE for the extra dodge
12:27.59Diaoeven though i lose 6 stam
12:28.03ProvusLol my server sucks so bad.
12:28.16ProvusMoonrunner is awful Horde-side.
12:28.17kebinusanthey bring back the grimoire offhand on ptr yet?
12:28.21the-golem60hp is negligible
12:28.22aeon|capulloi resisted 4 from 5 fears
12:29.12the-golemT4 shoulders dropped in gruul's today
12:29.25the-golemhealer gottum :-(
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12:30.31Diaolol
12:30.32ProvusDwarf priest is going to be a new beginning for me. Priest was always my second favorite class.
12:30.40ProvusAnd I'm really impressed with how hard a dwarf priest is to kill.
12:30.43Diaowe give priority to tanks on those loots :\
12:30.59the-golemyeah my guild is kinda wack
12:31.14the-golemwe tried the "exploit" on where to stand for prince today
12:31.15Diaotank survival is more important than a little extra +healing for the healers :P
12:31.33the-golemfirst and 2nd infernal plopped down right on the two safe spots
12:31.41aeon|capullohehe
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12:32.02CIA-12Babble-2.2:
12:32.02CIA-12- Added deDE translation for First Aid and Smelting recipes (thanks to eLeSDe )
12:32.14Diaolol
12:32.15ProvusLuck-based content ftw.
12:32.17Chompersthere's no safe spot in the prince fight
12:32.19the-golemfunny tho, the next attempt, infernals didnt touch the far wall at all
12:32.22Diaouhh
12:32.25Chompersyou just have to keep moving around
12:32.25Diaoi think you're doing it wrong :P
12:32.27aeon|capullothere is a safe spot
12:32.28Diaothere is a safe spot
12:32.31aeon|capullohehe
12:32.37Diaoright next to the entrance door
12:32.37the-golemno
12:32.40Diaothere's a hole in the wall
12:32.41the-golemROFL
12:32.44Diaothat the casters stand in
12:32.48aeon|capullostand very close to a infernal
12:32.51aeon|capulloin the middle
12:32.59aeon|capullothe infernals dont overlap
12:33.05Diaoyou can literally stand right next to the infernals/prince
12:33.10Diaoand the wall blocks the hellfire/shadow nova
12:33.14Diaoso you never get hit by it >.>
12:33.17the-golem??
12:33.18aeon|capulloonly if the wall dont give the infernals enough space
12:33.21the-golemwhere?
12:33.48Diaolike
12:33.50aeon|capullowait until a infernal lands in the middle
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12:33.59aeon|capulloand stand very close to it
12:34.01Diaohold on
12:34.03aeon|capulloso you dont get damage
12:34.26the-golemDiao: http://flavaguild.com/images/karasafe.jpg where on there?
12:34.30the-golemand btw
12:34.39the-golemthe red and green area, which is where we tried
12:34.40Diaooh no
12:34.42the-golemwas fail :-(
12:34.44Diaothat's a terrible place
12:34.48Diaolet me dl the image
12:34.51Diaoand remark it
12:34.55the-golemkk
12:35.26the-golemand
12:35.33the-golemive had infernal auras overlap
12:35.36the-golembefore
12:35.45aeon|capullonope
12:35.56the-golemdont tell me nope
12:35.58the-golemi was there
12:36.00aeon|capulloonly if there is not enough space for the infernal not to overlap
12:36.10Chompersthat's not possible
12:36.12aeon|capulloso when you stand in the middle
12:36.13Wogroiplbasically more dps = win
12:36.21Chompersthey're evenly spaced out
12:36.25the-golem...
12:36.29the-golemi cant tank in the middle
12:36.35aeon|capullothe raid
12:36.37aeon|capullonot the tank
12:36.44the-golem*sigh*
12:36.54aeon|capullotank still at the wall
12:37.11the-golemdurr
12:37.15aeon|capulloif you have not many melees the raid dont have to move the whole fight
12:37.54the-golemraid leaders are dumb sometimes
12:38.02the-golemtake like 4 melee to prince
12:38.08the-golemincluding myself
12:38.20aeon|capullothey also want T4
12:38.33the-golemlike today we had 2 rogues and a dps warrior
12:38.43the-golemand myself
12:39.04Wogroiplshould be no problem, if thet run in time
12:39.17Wogroipls/thet/they
12:39.19Wobinyeah
12:39.20aeon|capulloyou only need enough dps
12:39.21CodayusI don't see a problem with being melee heavy...
12:39.24the-golemWogroipl: usually its not, but we had a new guy and he didnt get the hang of it ^^
12:39.27WobinI just hop in and out
12:39.28Diaolol
12:39.32CIA-1203Firik * r52894 10BunchOfBars/ (11 files in 9 dirs):
12:39.32CIA-12BunchOfBars:
12:39.32CIA-12- new option to class color health bars
12:39.32CIA-12- changed the debuffs menu so you can enable/disable debuffs
12:39.32CIA-12- added some new buffs to the hots module
12:39.33CIA-12- moved some code around
12:39.36WobinPS Tricky Treats are fantastic for this
12:39.52the-golemhehe
12:39.57the-golemif they dont make u puke
12:40.06WobinThat's what the pallies/druids are for =)
12:40.12Wobinwith antipoison, you're sweet
12:40.17Diaohttp://clockwork-guild.net/karasafe.jpg
12:40.37Wobinhehe nice scrubbing
12:40.42Diaobasically casters/ranged are wedged into a little "safezone" on the left of the door
12:40.43the-golemlol
12:40.52Diaoand that is the spot where melee run to as well
12:40.53Wogroipllooks exactly how we do it Diao
12:41.04Diaocasters won't be able to see anything
12:41.07WobinAnd it's only an issue if an infernal pops inbetween
12:41.10Diaoexcept each other heads
12:41.11Diaooh
12:41.12Wobin(for melee)
12:41.15Diaoyeah
12:41.16Diaoin that case
12:41.18Diaoour melee just stand back
12:41.20Diaoand watch the fight
12:41.24Wobinand dance
12:41.30Diaoyep
12:41.37Diaomakes the fight a piece of cake
12:41.43Diaonobody ever has to move except melee to dodge the novas
12:41.48Wogroiplthere is also a little crevace in the wall where the tank is, melee can hide there from shadow nova
12:42.04WobinI probably wouldn't risk it though =P
12:42.09Wobin(personally)
12:42.11Diaoyea i just have them run to the casters
12:42.15Diaoit's only ~20 yards
12:42.23Diaoeasier than running 30+ to try and get out of range
12:42.24CodayusThe tactic annoys me; it's obviously not how the encounter was meant to be dealt with.
12:42.37Diaoeh
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12:42.38Wobinif infernals are still an issue by the time you have to dodge shadow nova, you're not dpsing fast enough
12:42.44WobinCodayus: Agreed
12:42.53Wogroiplwe tell ppl that are there the first time to run to the casters, only when they get more comfortable they can hide
12:42.56WobinIt's much more entertaining to move the whole raid
12:42.57aeon|capullovhaarr: you got my bugreport now?
12:42.57the-golem?
12:43.17CodayusI said the same thing about running away from Netherspite to avoid his breaths when he phases out...
12:43.24WobinIt's like with Septhera, a giant game of Snake
12:43.40CodayusToo many people in my guild proved unable to handle breath dodging though, so we gave up and have people run out.
12:43.44Diaolol
12:43.48CodayusBut we've held the line on Prince so far.
12:43.51WobinCodayus: And I suppose you eat Aran's arcane explosion? =)
12:43.57Diaomy guild has problems with running out for netherspite
12:44.01Diaowe just stick to his ass
12:44.04Diaoand dodge breaths
12:44.05the-golemcant you go behind him/
12:44.06the-golem?
12:44.11Diaoyea
12:44.13CodayusWobin: Aran's AE isobviously meant to be outranged.
12:44.16Diaowe stay behind him at all times
12:44.19the-golemyeah
12:44.24the-golemseems easier that way
12:44.24WobinCodayus: Like Netherspite's?
12:44.24CodayusAnd I think Netherspite's breaths were meant to be avoided by staying at his tail.
12:44.25the-golemlol
12:44.26Diaobecause our people have trouble getting in position for portals
12:44.32Diaowhen running out
12:44.34vhaarraeon|capullo: I got it
12:44.35Diaoso we just stay near him
12:44.37WobinIt's not a terrain hack like Prince is
12:44.41CodayusI think it's 100% clear they did NOT mean for Netherspite to be outranged.
12:44.51the-golemyeah i dunno
12:44.54Diaowell
12:44.58the-golemive only done netherspite once
12:44.58Diaoit just makes the fight quicker on prince
12:45.03Diaolike
12:45.12Diaowe did it normally for a couple months
12:45.14CodayusIf you watch his targeting, and especially notice how they changed the fight since it's first version...
12:45.16Diaobut when we do it this way
12:45.19Diaoprince dies like
12:45.21Diao2-3 minutes faster
12:45.28Diaowhich is a big difference
12:45.36Diaoespecially when you're speedrunning
12:45.41Diaoand going for sub-3 hrs clear :P
12:45.51the-golemlol
12:45.54the-golemwe cant do that :-(
12:45.55the-golemyet
12:46.02WobinPS: Prices and offers are subject to change (c) 2007 FlaVa Guild.?
12:46.06Diaouhh
12:46.07the-golembut we raid late
12:46.12Diaoi stole the image from a link golem gave me
12:46.16CodayusNetherspite is buggy enough though...  (In particular, his threat, but also his reaction to fire nova totems.)
12:46.17Diaoand modified it
12:46.29the-golemthat funny
12:46.34the-golemthey copyrighted a screenshot
12:46.35Wobinhe eats them?
12:46.35Diaohence the smudging on the right half of the image
12:46.37the-golemway to go :P
12:46.38Diaolol
12:47.04CodayusWobin: He'll rarely chase people down. Or sometimes he'll spend an entire banish phase targeting one out of range person...or not.  It's just...flaky.
12:47.17WobinMaybe he's just lazy
12:47.26Wobinbig fat dragon
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12:48.39Diaolol
12:50.05Diaoanyway
12:50.07Diaoit's time to afk
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12:54.00CIA-12BunchOfBars:
12:54.00CIA-12- forgot some ,
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13:05.11CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
13:05.11CIA-12- fix zhCN
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13:17.19Lukianhow you you multiline a "macro" in an sli? ";" ?
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13:17.58CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
13:17.58CIA-12- fix zhCN
13:19.13Wobindepends on what you're doing
13:19.19WobinI don't think you can slashcommand it that way
13:19.31Wobins/can/can separate/
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13:23.09CIA-12CrayonLib:
13:23.09CIA-12- Added blue and black
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13:23.44CIA-12LibCrayon-3.0:
13:23.44CIA-12- Added black
13:24.00Wobinblack's not a colour! =)
13:24.14SunTsuBlack is the only color ;)
13:24.25Ackislol
13:24.30WobinYou need to change your nick to EmoSunTsu
13:24.33OzguliBlack is the lack of colors
13:24.55SunTsuWobin: No, I just like Mr. Ford. "You can have it any color, as long as it is black"
13:25.43the-golemblack is all colors
13:25.43ProvusOh yeah?
13:25.56ProvusIf black is the lack of colors, then why are black people refered to as colored?
13:26.00ProvusHa got you there.
13:26.04Ackislmao
13:26.06the-golemlol
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13:29.26Josh_Borkemorning tek
13:31.27MegalonWobin/the-golem: depends if you use additive or subtractive colorsystems :P
13:31.47Wobinthis is true
13:31.59Wobinblack is all or nothing
13:32.02Wobinand nothing but all
13:32.12Megalon;)
13:33.09Josh_Borke~lart wobin
13:33.09purlchops wobin in half with a free Solaris 7 CD
13:33.22xyu`~morning
13:33.23purlGood morning!
13:34.12xyu`ugh it's freakishly hot outside for michigan at this time
13:34.20Ackisyou mean I can get purl to talk to me? sweet!
13:34.20xyu`./cheer for global warming
13:34.45OzguliIt's damn cold outside already in finland
13:35.04Stanzillawe got snow here :O
13:35.08xyu`nice
13:35.13xyu`i miss snow, been living in taiwan the last 4 years
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13:37.06CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
13:37.06CIA-12- Switch from LibCrayon-3.0 to Crayon2.0 to optimize current efficiency.
13:39.27Ackiscool someones car alarm has been going off for 3 hours now
13:39.51vhaarrBibi: wtf fix mmochamp!
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13:40.54ramoz~attack Bibi
13:40.55purlACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing Bibi
13:41.08ramozConnection to northrend Failed
13:41.09ramoz=(
13:41.36LukianWobin, I wish to set up something to hunter's mark a target and have my pet attack it, using click2cast
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13:46.05Ackiswow the two changes i made to crayon made the files.wowace.com thing go crazy lol
13:46.51StanzillaAckis: why the move to Crayon2.0?
13:47.33Wobin<PROTECTED>
13:47.44Wobin~x de en schwartz!
13:47.49Wobinbah
13:47.54Wobin~x en de black
13:48.00Wobinoh, close
13:48.02AckisMy mod uses Ace2 libraries, and Crayon3.0 uses rock... I have some users who have no rock mods on their PC, so making them load/use all the rock libraries just seemed inefficient
13:48.09Stanzillablack = schwarz Wobin
13:48.24StanzillaAckis: ah, good :)
13:48.27StanzillaWobin: np :)
13:48.52StanzillaCrayon should be LibStubbed :/
13:49.07Wobintotally
13:49.35Ackisi stubbed my toe the other day... :P
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13:49.42Ackis<--- no idea what LibStubbed is
13:49.48Stanzillalol
13:49.53Stanzillamade it up
13:49.58Ackishowever it sounds cool
13:50.00Stanzillameant it should use LibStub
13:50.06Ackisstill no clue
13:50.11SunTsuWobin: You just use the word, you don't build sentences, right?
13:50.20StanzillaAckis: http://www.wowwiki.com/LibStub
13:50.30WobinWhich word?
13:50.52SunTsuWobin: "Schwarz"
13:50.58SunTsui.e. "black"
13:51.21WobinOh I just vauguely remembered it was something like that
13:51.29Wobinfrom a astrophysics book
13:51.32Wobinabout black holes
13:51.37Wobinand the event horizon =P
13:51.59Megalonstephen hawking!
13:52.07Wobinyeah, prolly =)
13:52.24SunTsuWobin: german is a little bit more complicated. The adverb depends on the gender of the subject and changes with it
13:52.43Wobinsomething like schwarzschild
13:52.50Megalonschwarzschildradius
13:52.58Wobinthat's the bunny
13:53.07SunTsuWobin: So, if you just use the basic form, ypu are fine, if you don't build sentences. So "schwarz" would be right
13:53.11Wobinthose wacky germans
13:53.25SunTsus/ypu/you/
13:53.32Wobinthey'll tie any few words together just for the hell of it
13:53.45WobinOh I'd never profess to making sentences.
13:53.47SunTsuWobin: I didn't even come to the complicated part ;)
13:53.58StanzillaMississippidampferfahrerkapitänstochter
13:54.00Stanzillabam!
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13:54.04CIA-12- Fixed a JC bug thanks to Hotphoenix while learning about LibStub and dealing with my cat jumping on my keyboard.
13:54.14Wobingenerally a few words here and there
13:54.15Megalontieing together just for the hell of it? that sounds like some sort of bondage!
13:54.16Wobinoh and Scheiße
13:54.33Stanzillalol
13:54.41WobinThe important words =)
13:54.58SunTsu.o0( "May the schwartz be with you" )
13:55.03Wobinoh and the lyrics to Beethoven's ninth.
13:55.30WobinMaybe I do know more German than I originally thought =P
13:55.31SunTsuWobin: Watched too much "Tatort"? ;)
13:55.41Wobinnein =)
13:55.48Megalonfreunde schoener goetterfunken
13:55.53Megalontochter aus elysium
13:55.57Megalonor something like that :P
13:55.57WobinTochter aus elysium
13:56.05Megalon;D
13:56.13WobinI couldn't spell it for the life of me though
13:56.29Megalonbut that's all i know from that lyrics :o
13:56.42mugwort13hello everyone, are there any other wow irc channels?
13:57.10WobinI did it a few times in the Opera Hosue
13:57.11WobinHouse
13:57.17Wobinso it's kinda stuck =P
13:57.42StanzillaWobin: "Wie geht es dir?"
13:57.48Stanzilla== how are you
13:58.07Stanzillanow you can go hunt girls in germany :D
13:58.12WobinStanzilla: "Ni Hao ma?" == how are you
13:58.23SunTsu.o0( I'll go afk before I try to quote Schiller's "Die Glocke" )
13:58.23Wobincross training
13:58.31Stanzillahehe
13:58.56Wobinor "Le Ho ma?" if you're in Hong Kong or SE Asia
13:59.05Wobin><
13:59.14WobinCantonese looks utterly utterly weird romanised
14:00.04Stanzilla"was geht?" = "what's up?"
14:00.11Fisker-omg
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14:01.18baer_=^.^=
14:01.29Fisker-loli haets baer
14:02.11Wobin"zai nar" = "where to?"
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14:02.51invitado-187107hello is there any addon for minering automatically?
14:03.03Stanzillaminering
14:03.06Stanzillathat's cool
14:03.13baer_Fisker-: calm down. :)
14:03.27TigerdyrStanzilla: 's like herbering - just differently ;-)
14:03.34StanzillaTigerdyr: oh i see
14:05.38Ackisanyone here use drdamage? and if so, can i get the tooltip info to show up in my spellbook opposed ot action bars?
14:06.28Chompersit already does Ackis
14:06.46Ackishmmm gonna have to relook at that...
14:06.49Chompersjust disable the display on action bars, i think
14:09.42WobinWell there is actually
14:09.47Wobin<PROTECTED>
14:10.00Wobin<PROTECTED>
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14:14.58Ackisis there a way to get a frame name that's under your mouse?
14:15.14Fisker-/print GetMouseFocus()
14:15.22Fisker-there's also a longer version for only the name
14:15.45Fisker-but that will show all relevant information for the frame you have under your mouse
14:15.58neeneeIs there an ETA for 2.3 yet?
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14:17.00AckisThanks Fisker
14:17.08Ackisthat helps a lot :)
14:26.58Fisker-neenee well it was expected to be out at the end of october
14:27.07Fisker-but probably start of november now since 2.3 was delayed a bit
14:27.15neeneeI see
14:27.20neenee*2.2
14:27.23Fisker-also 4chan got partyV& :(
14:27.29Fisker-nah 2.3
14:27.45Fisker-the PTR was delayed by a week or so because of 2.2.3
14:28.22Fisker-but atleast 2.4 should follow pretty soon
14:32.33durcyni hope not.  2.3 is buggy as hell.
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14:33.26baer_is there some way in pitbull to change one specific unitframe back to blizz bar?
14:33.29art3misanyone know what this says "
14:33.38art3mis"Ftiakse kai kanena UI me pucca!!! :P
14:33.38art3mishahaha ta UI sou einai afasia "
14:33.52SunTsudurcyn: Just because there are legs missing, places you can't fly in zangar, action bars disappearing?
14:33.52baer_or some skin that makes it look like the original ui? :)
14:34.29durcynSunTsu: for starters, uh, yes.
14:34.52SunTsudurcyn: Don't be so narrow minded ;)
14:35.30durcynbase ui target frames are wonky as well, was fun playing without addons yesterday
14:35.48durcynfailing to render at all, showing mobs as alive after they died..
14:36.12SunTsudurcyn: ZA instance server was down nearly whole saturday on EU PvE
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14:42.53Wobinart3mis:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pucca
14:42.55Wobinmaybe?
14:43.01WobinAnd I think it might be greek
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14:44.08Industrialdoesnt greek have a different alphabet?
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14:44.44NimbalHi all. Does anybody know by chance how many debuffs a mob can have at most? WoWWiki is not clear there, 16 or 40 they say. A guildmate said 25. And I wish it was more than 32.
14:45.01alext40
14:45.02Fisker-it's 450
14:45.03durcyn40
14:45.03Fisker-40
14:45.15Fisker-it was changed from 8 to 16 to 40 i believe
14:45.18alextNimbal: are you a warlock?
14:45.19durcynyour frames might only display a certain amount, but it's 40
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14:45.41NimbalMost say 40, so let's stick to democracy :-) Thanks
14:45.53Fisker-it is 40 :P
14:45.55WobinIndustrial: yes, but you can't always type in it
14:46.02Nimbalalext: nope, just fixing Buffalo2
14:46.04Wobinso there would be a romanised equivalent
14:46.43ccKep"A single target can have at most 40 debuffs at one time, which includes damage over time effects, crowd control, drain effects and a few miscellaneous abilities." <<< how's wowwiki unclear there? :)
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14:47.16CIA-1203nimbal * r52906 10Buffalo2/Buffalo2.lua:
14:47.16CIA-12Buffalo2:
14:47.16CIA-12* Hopefully fixed the error spamming in raid.
14:47.44Nimbalhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Debuff_priorities
14:47.49Fisker-funny thing
14:47.56Fisker-just looked through the patchnotes to reassure you
14:48.00Fisker-but it wasn't listed :I
14:48.04alextNimbal: ah ok
14:48.11Fisker-probably because the 40-debuff change was launched in TBC if i recall
14:49.02alextif you were a lock, i was just going to point out the lvl 60 versions of curse of shadows/elements "stick" and don't get bumped off while the lvl 70 versions do get bumped off sometimes if the limit is reached
14:49.12NimbalAh, on the Debuff page down there it stands. I thought this was a preamble to the examples.
14:49.32NimbalSo much for debuff priorities, eh?
14:49.53Fisker-yeah
14:50.00alexti think the debuff priorities still exist, but only for the lvl 60 versions of debuffs
14:50.03Fisker-i think they made it to an extent though
14:50.09alextthey did not carry it over to the lvl 70 versions
14:50.21alextfor some reason
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14:51.16ccKepthey should simply remove some of the unneeded debuffs form the game imho
14:51.22ccKep(ie. fireball-dot)
14:51.36xyu`i happen to like my fireball dot
14:51.48Nimbal"some reason" = oops, forgot to add the new versions to the priorities
14:52.11Josh_Borke40 debuffs isn't enouh? o.O
14:52.25alextnay ;[
14:52.32ccKepnot always
14:52.37Josh_Borkehuh, ok
14:52.55alexti know 4 affliction warlocks isn't a good thing
14:53.04Ellipsisso uh
14:53.06alextwe hit the cap
14:53.15ccKepwe told our affliction locks to respecc at the early stage of raiding
14:53.22ccKeponly kept one of 4 affliction
14:53.39alextyah
14:53.43Ellipsisthey seriously forgot to prioritize debuffs?
14:53.43durcynit warms my heart to learn you bring four warlocks to a raid
14:53.52alextI respeced destro once we had 4 in the raid, but we havent had 4 since lol
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14:53.56alextoh we dont, we dont have enough locks ;]
14:53.57Wobinhehe
14:53.59durcynEllipsis: top rank COS/COE aren't prioritiezed, haven't ever been.
14:54.00Wobinfor us it's hunters
14:54.03Ellipsisno wonder my debuffs weren't sticking the other day...
14:54.06Wobinwe used to have a whole boatload of hutners
14:54.07ccKepmost of the time 3-4
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14:54.09alextwe only have 3 full time raiding warlocks with the occasional 4th showing up
14:54.10Funkeh`hi
14:54.16Josh_Borkehi funky
14:54.33alextalthough if you were min/maxing, 3 affliction...2 with malediction and one with 5/5 shadow embrace
14:54.33durcynproblem is, unless you have decent crit, UA is still more DPS
14:54.35alextthen the rest destro
14:54.51alextdurcyn: i used to think that
14:55.04durcyni'd tell them to stop using crap like siphon before i told them to respec
14:55.09alextdid "The lurker below" back to back, one week as 41/0/20 and one week as 0/21/40
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14:55.19ccKep3 rogues, 2-3 hunters, 3-4 warlocks, 2 shadow priests, 1-2 mages, 1-2 dps warriors, 1 feral druid, 1 enhancement shaman our typical markup
14:55.19alextI did 40k more damage as destruction
14:55.22alext<PROTECTED>
14:55.23durcynDS is cheating.
14:55.29Ellipsis^
14:55.32alextusing a talent given to you isnt cheating imo
14:55.42alextif i was floating in the air and dpsing thats another story
14:55.52durcyneither that, or i hate demonology, one of the above.
14:56.13Ellipsisalext, a fairer comparison would be aff/dest to dest/aff
14:56.21Ellipsisor aff/demo to dest/demo if you must
14:56.31Silviu-Destro ownz
14:56.42Silviu-I was affli till like hmm 2 weeks ago
14:56.48Silviu-Then i decided let`s try destro
14:56.57Silviu-And .. my dps in raid is like omg <3
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14:57.15EllipsisI liked destro while leveling, the problem is that everything was suddenly ezmode the moment I respecced
14:57.17Josh_Borkewe have a destro lock
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14:57.23Silviu-http://wws.night-conquers-day.de/wws-20071016-1944/
14:57.26Josh_Borkehe doesn't know how to manage aggro
14:57.40Ellipsisplus I have enough trouble with threat already, I don't need huge crits throwing me off
14:58.05Silviu-:)
14:58.24alextboth specs work fine, I was a destruction hater myself and was affliction for a year straight
14:58.36alextbut the way shadowbolt scales is too tempting plus we were hitting the debuff cap so screw it
14:58.36Silviu-I was affli for 2 years or so
14:58.44Silviu-And laughed all time at destruction
14:58.47Silviu-Until i skilled it now
14:58.51ccKepnether protection = hax @ teron
14:58.53Silviu-And saw what dmg i can make lol
14:58.57Silviu-yes ^^
14:59.05alextboth specs have their benefits and drawbacks
14:59.10Kalman|Well, nice thing about destro is that destro warlocks scale up your spriests pretty significantly.
14:59.13Ellipsisoh hay guise, whar I get gud trinkets?
14:59.29Chompersguy in shatt sells awesome trinkets
14:59.36Silviu-And my gear sux
14:59.39Silviu-Crit wise
14:59.44Ellipsisgonna get icon as soon as I start heroics
14:59.53Ellipsisnot sure what my other one will be
14:59.54ccKepwhy no heroism/bloodlust @ teron?
15:00.03Silviu-But don`t know my dmg is pretty good i would say
15:00.05ccKepor just borked log?
15:00.10Silviu-Before i was top 5 as affli
15:00.16Kalman|Ellipsis: Afflock?
15:00.24Ellipsisyep
15:00.30Silviu-now first or top 3 ranged
15:00.30Kalman|Considered a Crusade deck?
15:00.36Ellipsisyouch
15:00.39Ellipsiswallet's not that deep
15:00.51Silviu-ccKep melees get heroism
15:00.52Silviu-;(
15:01.02Silviu-with heroisim i would be 2k dps :D
15:01.06durcynEllipsis: go kill illidan.
15:01.12Ellipsisdurcyn, k I'll do that
15:01.20ccKepyou have 4 shaman there
15:01.30ccKepeveryone dps'er should've get heroism ^.^
15:01.34ccKep*every
15:01.41Silviu-Well .. is a grp of 4 melee
15:01.44Silviu-and shaman get changed
15:01.51Silviu-and melees get heroism all time
15:01.52Silviu-:)
15:01.56ccKep2 heroism 4 melees, 2 for other grps imho
15:02.14ccKephttp://wowwebstats.com/utbqjvdkuk2vk?s=3734-3976 our first kill with 2 heroism :D
15:02.18Silviu-I would say that too
15:02.26Silviu-But our raidlead thinks otherwise :P
15:02.28Silviu-http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Littleone
15:03.14Silviu-Wtf
15:03.17Kalman|Ellipsis: Scryer?
15:03.19Silviu-Lolguard specc
15:03.31ccKepdon't underestimate it ;)
15:03.32Silviu-Jaffar your warlock lol
15:03.54EllipsisKalman|: yup?
15:04.23Kalman|The revered Scryer trinket isn't a bad blue for you, then.
15:04.35Ellipsishm
15:04.38Ellipsisbut I'm barely honored =[
15:04.54Kalman|You're gonna grind the rep to exalted anyway, might as well get it done.  :p
15:05.00EllipsisI am?
15:05.01Silviu-I must consider get some t6 but i want for that archimonde sword :(
15:05.09Kalman|If you want the nice shoulder enchant, yeah.
15:05.13Silviu--want + wait
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15:05.40ccKepwtb some decent caster dps benchmark fight
15:05.45EllipsisKalman|: oh you mean the only worthwhile enchant because the lower rank one sucks for aff?
15:05.47ccKeplike teron is for melee
15:05.48Ellipsis>_>
15:06.06Silviu-hmm
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15:06.13alextLurker below is a pretty good benchmark fight
15:06.27Kalman|Hey, you could have gone Aldor.  :p
15:06.30ccKepnah, not really imho.. submerges 'n stuff
15:06.31alextAl'ar is "ok" as well, but phase 1 is the only part where u cant pull agro
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15:06.50EllipsisKalman|: ench/tailor...no :P
15:06.52Silviu-Yes Al`ar p1 is a good example :)
15:06.57alextyeah but if your meter counts the submerge downtime as your DPS, you got a broken meter ;]
15:07.11ccKepwell, you still dps adds
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15:07.36Kalman|Yeah, but there are still DPS breaks, and my add DPS is much lower than my lurker DPS b/c there's no stackup time and no debuffs.
15:07.37alextyeah but thats not a substantial portion of your damage in that fight
15:07.38ccKepal'ar p1 is good I think
15:07.46ccKepbut I think I don't have a wws left of ssc / tk
15:07.49Kalman|Void Reaver isn't terrible, really.
15:08.00alextdepends on your spec and luck tho with Void Reaver
15:08.04alextplus agro is an issue
15:08.09Kalman|Well, yeah.
15:08.20Kalman|I just stand in a corner for the first quarter of VR, usually.
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15:08.28Silviu-A fight where is hard for me to manage aggro is Bloodboil
15:08.39Silviu-In p1 he is so sensitive to my crits :(
15:08.51alextPhase 1 Al'ar is probably the best you can get if you dont like adds and submerges from lurker skewing your numbers, although its not by much imo
15:08.57ccKephttp://wowwebstats.com/lwbm51verdszu?s=2124-2808 latest attunement run, sorta outdated too
15:09.30Silviu-ccKep and your char is ?
15:09.31Silviu-;)
15:09.38ccKepI'm resto shaman ;)
15:09.45Silviu-:)
15:09.46Silviu-Wtf
15:09.47ccKepdéie
15:09.49alextnot good for me though, I spam lifetap during al'ar transitions so the pally can heal and draw the adds to the add tank
15:09.51Silviu-That wl amazes me
15:09.58alextjust dps the adds with melee
15:10.02Silviu-With lolguard specc
15:10.21Silviu-Oh here he was destro
15:10.22Silviu-:P
15:10.25Silviu-No more lolguard
15:10.26ccKepwasn't lolguard there
15:10.45Silviu-Yeah i noticed :)
15:10.51Kalman|Actually, P1 Vashj is pretty good too.
15:10.58ccKepcurrently learning illidan, lets look at his phase1 dps.. sec.
15:11.00Silviu-Is too short
15:11.12Silviu-We are only at Ros
15:11.16Silviu-Today i hope we down him
15:11.21ccKepillidan phase1 is a good benchmark I think
15:11.35Silviu-But after ... sux
15:11.39Silviu-We have not enough Hods
15:11.44Grumlol who has 1670dps as a lock there? O.o
15:11.46Silviu-For Mother
15:11.49ccKepmother shahraz is easy as hell since patch
15:11.59ccKepwe killed her on our 4th attempt _ever_
15:12.07ccKepand one-shot her since then
15:12.12Silviu-But we still need shadow resi
15:12.13Silviu-No ?
15:12.14ccKepthe new prismatic shield is laughable
15:12.17ccKepyeah
15:12.18ccKepsure
15:12.22Silviu-See ?
15:12.28ccKepbut if you have that it's ezmode
15:12.35Silviu-We need around 100% more hods ;(
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15:12.44Silviu--%
15:12.50GrumccKep: what spec is that warlock? :)
15:12.55ccKepwhich?
15:12.58Silviu-~100 110 hods or so
15:13.00ccKepjaffar? was destro on alar there
15:13.01durcynoriginal prismatic shield was horrible, i still have nightmares
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15:13.03ccKepdemo now
15:13.11Silviu-Grum destro in that wws
15:13.21Grumits ... sick
15:13.26Silviu-Why ?
15:13.26Grumhow much spelldmg has he got? 1700 orso?
15:13.41Silviu-http://wws.night-conquers-day.de/wws-20071016-1944/
15:13.43Silviu-Look here
15:13.49ccKepdunno
15:14.00ccKep1259 currently in armory
15:14.03ccKepbut 0 21 40 spec
15:14.03Silviu-~1500 spelldmg i had i think
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15:14.33Silviu-With full pots and so
15:14.48ccKepbut I just see... he's doing _unacceptable_ dps on our illidan tries yesterday
15:14.54ccKep8xx... I mean, wtf
15:14.55GrumSilviu-: you are which one? :)
15:15.02Silviu-Grum Littleone
15:15.12Silviu-^^
15:15.12Grumman how do you do that kind of stupid amounts of dps? ;D
15:15.22Silviu-Well don`t know ^^
15:15.26Silviu-Sb sb sb sb
15:15.28Silviu-:)))
15:15.41Silviu-Afk watch tv, sb sb sb sb
15:15.42Silviu-:))
15:15.45alextdestro scales REALLY well
15:16.02Silviu-I must make an auto clicker :))
15:16.06Grumhehe
15:16.11Grumand CoD ;D
15:16.16Silviu-Yeah
15:16.18ccKepman, I'm an idiot
15:16.19Silviu-1 min .. easy :P
15:16.30ccKephe's wearing shadow resist + got imp summoned xD
15:16.44Silviu-Hehe
15:16.57Silviu-0/21/40 sux with imp out :)
15:17.03ccKepstill doing 900 dps in shadow resist ^.^
15:17.11Grumlol
15:17.14Silviu-Illidan needs shadow resist too ?
15:17.23ccKepyeah, a tanking warlock
15:17.24baer_i can't decide which cycircled skin i take... "hello kitty" or "iron cross".
15:17.29baer_=^.^=
15:17.30Grumi dont get how people that are actually geared up a tiny bit (like having full t4) cant do 900+dps
15:17.54Ellipsisuh
15:17.57Ellipsis900 is hard?
15:18.04Grumit is not
15:18.22Grumpressing 3 buttons depending on spec
15:18.31Ackisif i create a frame with a random name, like foo .. i, where i is an integer... how can I check to see if that frame exists? if ( not (foo .. i) ) doesn't seem to work
15:18.32HjalteI can do 900 with 2/2 spellstrike and 2/3 frozen shadowweave. Demonology.
15:18.37EllipsisI'm in pre-heroic blues and I can do 900
15:18.45EllipsisI don't even have mah spellstrike yet!
15:18.54GrumEllipsis: over a period of ~7-8 minutes ofc :)
15:19.07EllipsisI'm aff. the longer the fight, the higher my dps :P
15:19.29GrumAckis: _G[ "foo"..i ]
15:19.31ccKepAckis: maybe if not getglobal("foo"..i)
15:20.09Silviu-The problem at us is that we have 4 wl`s 2 affli 2 sacc/destro but the 2 affliction ones don`t come every raid
15:20.17Ackisthanks to you both :)
15:20.21Silviu-so sometimes i or the other destro must stay with imp out
15:20.24Silviu-that is a kill
15:20.25Silviu-;(
15:20.47Grumwhat else would you use? succu for ~90spelldmg?
15:20.54Silviu-Yeah
15:21.10Grumnot that much of a diff :D
15:21.17Grum~300 on crits orso?
15:22.15ccKepsacc sukk ftw
15:23.02Silviu-Ros is a killer for my shards
15:23.03Grumbut seriously, for some reason people cant do 1000+ dps on Al'ar phase1
15:23.12Silviu-Phase 1 , sacc felhunter for mana
15:23.25Silviu-phase 2 stay with felhunter out for shild dispell
15:23.30neeneeEr.. is rock embedded in addons?
15:23.33Silviu-phase 3 sacc succi for dmg
15:23.34Silviu-:))
15:23.51neeneeBecause everything still seems to work even though I just removed all libs
15:23.51alextGrum: it depends on meters though too, I dont think WWS is wrong in their DPS calculations but I see all sorts of numbers with other meters
15:24.08Grumalext: wowstats numbers
15:24.14alextah well there you go
15:24.55ZhinjioI thought the order was |crrggbbaa blah |r
15:24.56Zhinjioisn't it?
15:25.12Grumaarrggbb? .. dunno tbh
15:25.20Wobinhehe
15:25.21Ellipsisaarrggbb
15:25.26Zhinjioyeah, thats what its... thanks.
15:25.26Wobinsounds like a cry of pain
15:25.27Zhinjiomeh
15:25.31GrumAAARRRHGHGHH
15:25.53Grumbut alext, 'there you go', how do you mean?
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15:26.08alextI dont know what I said didnt make sense
15:26.21alextwas just trying to confirm WWS has probably the most accurate DPS numbers
15:26.22ccKep11k arcane blast crits @ essence of anger kick ass too
15:26.29alextwhile the in-game addons all seem to calculate differently
15:26.34Grumalext: yeah indeed
15:26.43alextlike my Fubar_DPS addon shows different numbers than violation does
15:26.48alextetc
15:26.58ccKepdepends how they handle off-time I think
15:27.01Ellipsisviolation has a unique way of measuring DPS
15:27.02alextyeah
15:27.08ccKepwws = 5s of doing no damage = dps time stops
15:27.14Grumyup
15:27.46balstor~seen cncfanatics
15:27.48purlcncfanatics <i=evolve@223.18-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 46m 1s ago, saying: 'Balstor, ping'.
15:28.07Ellipsislawl
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15:28.10balstorcncfanatics pong
15:28.47Ellipsishe'll probably be up soon
15:28.56Ellipsishe usually gets on around this time
15:29.14CIA-1203jerry * r52908 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (9 files in 7 dirs):
15:29.14CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
15:29.14CIA-12_ updates to the dataminer.
15:29.14CIA-12_ regenerated datamined data.
15:29.14CIA-12_ added 23818 in Misc.Usable.Quest
15:29.22cryogenyeah hes at school probably
15:29.46nevcairielat 5:30pm school? i hope not for him :P
15:29.48balstoryhea, guess i will wander off and see if my new procwatch works on shadowbolts
15:29.50ccKephttp://wowwebstats.com/otuuosezeatby?s=2449-2544&a=31 overpowered AB spam in phase3 :o
15:30.03balstormy guess is supper
15:30.42cryogenwell, he has to like travel, and eat and do homework and shit :p
15:30.49cryogendunno, interrogate him when he appears :D
15:30.57balstorrl > games
15:30.59hastevhaarr: http://hastey.pastey.net/75652-3k9e updating the wowi version of oglow now, the check shouldn't validate against any of the previous versions however
15:31.12hastevhaarr: you can check if oglow is version 1.1 or higher if you want to be absolutly sure :p
15:31.41neeneeHm
15:31.48neeneeOglow does what Fizzle + Baggins do then
15:32.20Ellipsisoglow is pretty sweet for default bags
15:32.27neeneeYup.
15:32.32neeneeBut I prefer Baggins myself.
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15:34.25Grumhaste: i hope you have a local _G somewhere in that code as well
15:34.31SunTsuIt baggins would graphically show the information of AnywhereBags it were great
15:34.40Grumand why the hell all those _G's ... O.o
15:34.42hasteGrum: I just followed vhaarr's style there
15:34.57hasteyou can some speed from it, not much tho'
15:35.18hasteand it makes the code horrible to read
15:35.19Grumdepends if you have localized _G before you do it
15:35.27Grum_G.IsAddOnLoaded"oGlow" <-- will that actually work?
15:35.28neeneeSunTsu, why would you need that info?
15:35.35hasteI'm guessing he has, as he uses it all over the place :p
15:36.07Grumthat is one of the ugliest ways to write it
15:36.08nevcairielGrum: yes why wouldnt it?
15:36.13Grumwhat does it do?
15:36.23Grum_G.IsAddOnLoaded("oGlow") ?
15:36.26SunTsuneenee: Because that's my preferred mode
15:36.27nevcairielyes
15:36.35Grumwhy not just type that? O.o
15:36.39nevcairieldunno
15:36.43nevcairielits supported by lua
15:36.45nevcairielno idea why
15:36.47SunTsuneenee: Especially looking at the equipped items of my alts
15:37.00nevcairielits cool for script macros, you can save chars and stuff more in 255 chars :P
15:37.00Josh_Borkehate at no ()
15:37.09Ellipsis^
15:37.15Grumnevcairiel: yeah i agree on that
15:37.22hasteI'm jb's worst enemy!
15:37.29neeneeI see. You want to see what alts are wearing, but in your bags?
15:37.30Grumis this actually in the lua specs? :D
15:37.35hasteyes
15:37.38Josh_Borke~lart haste
15:37.38purllowers haste's priority
15:37.39hasteyou can do func{} also
15:37.52neeneeIsn't it better to see what they are wearing in a frame similar to the character dialog?
15:37.53nevcairielthere are some obfuscated specs ..^^
15:37.53Josh_Borkebut you can only do it for single arguments, right?
15:38.01hasteyep
15:38.15neeneeah well, shop now. bbs.
15:38.56SunTsuneenee: Right, exactly that's what I am missing
15:38.59GrumJosh_Borke: only for single string arguments so it seems
15:39.06Grumor new tables
15:39.33SunTsuneenee: Right now I only have a text menu showing me the info
15:39.37neeneeSunTsu, I see. But what the character is wearing, is not what is in bags, so to me it's not something that should be a feature of a bag-addon.
15:40.07SunTsuneenee: But baggins _has_ the info
15:40.12neeneeHm.
15:40.26neeneeYou mean with Baggins_Anywhere or such?
15:40.34SunTsuneenee: Right
15:40.35neeneeAt least that's not part of the default thing
15:40.57neeneePeople can always write plugins :)
15:41.07SunTsuneenee: I know
15:41.08neeneeokay, bbs now or I'll miss my window
15:41.30SunTsuSo right now I have two plugins for the same thing. CharacterInfo and Baggins
15:41.43neeneeno!~
15:41.44neeneeno
15:41.52neeneeBaggins_Anywhere, the plugin. Yes
15:41.55neeneeBut not Baggins by default
15:42.08neeneeBye now.
15:42.18SunTsuneenee: OK, you are right
15:44.20CIA-1203ackis * r52909 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
15:44.20CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
15:44.20CIA-12- Fixed bug where opening multiple GUI windows in a session would cause errors
15:44.40Ackiscool only 2 hours for that bug
15:44.47Ackisi love frames
15:44.49Ackisyes i do
15:44.50Ackis<PROTECTED>
15:44.52Ellipsisyay4fix Ackis <3
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15:45.43Ackissometimes i wished this irc channel was rated the same as guild chat /sigh lol
15:47.23CIA-1203jerry * r52910 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: bugfix "Consumable.Buff Type.Both" data mining
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15:54.10Finwhu?
15:54.16Finguild chat is rated?
15:55.06Funkeh`?
15:55.10Funkeh`rated?
15:55.45Fin[17:45:34] <Ackis> sometimes i wished this irc channel was rated the same as guild chat /sigh lol
15:55.47CIA-1203oridan * r52911 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc):
15:55.47CIA-12SpellReminder:
15:55.47CIA-12- custom bar groups. initial public test.
15:56.09Funkeh`whatever
15:56.30Finwhu?
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16:00.14Zhinjioum. I can't seem to get at my branch on SVN right now.
16:00.22Zhinjioanyone know about anything being down right now?
16:00.32Azure!seen grennon
16:01.15balstorrecount's author hangs out on one of the high end guild forums, does anybody have a link ( I lost my copy of that link)
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16:03.03Zhinjio!seen Kaelten
16:03.08hastebalstor: elitist jerks?
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16:03.49hastealso, it's ~seen, not !seen
16:04.02balstoryes haste thanks
16:04.11Zhinjiowell, !seen msgs you specifically instead of the channel.
16:04.25hastethen it isn't perl who answers?
16:04.28hastepurl even :(
16:05.03hasteyou can also just msg purl seen blah for it to reply, which saves the channel for yet another line :)
16:06.15*** part/#wowace YourMomsHero (n=cirish@74.202.196.195)
16:06.53Zhinjioif since this isn't working, maybe I've got my path wrong.
16:07.12Zhinjioa branches path should be what? dev.wowace.com/branches/<addon>?
16:07.41Zhinjioor dev.wowace.com/branches/<addon>/<tag>/?
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16:08.31Roartindon~seen cryect
16:08.34purlcryect <n=fefsd@pool-72-95-251-159.pitbpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 51d 15h 36m 36s ago, saying: 'charon: it can't tell the difference between mobs of the same name (you don't get any unit id for them or anything) so he couldn't do that'.
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16:11.47HjalteIs there a nature resistance enchant for your head item?
16:11.57balstoryes
16:12.05uliccenerion no?
16:12.16balstorat least there is a +10 one from ZG
16:13.06Hjalte20+ from cenarion honored :)
16:13.26hasteZhinjio: you still wonder?
16:15.51Zhinjioyes, I'm not having much luck comitting
16:16.08Zhinjiodev.wowace.com/branches does not seem to be available
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16:17.35Fin~cookie
16:17.43cncfanatics~seen Provus
16:17.44purlprovus <n=UPP@ip68-97-142-183.ok.ok.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 51m 44s ago, saying: 'Ha got you there.'.
16:17.47Fin~cookie
16:17.50Zhinjioor does it have to be http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/addon/...
16:17.57Wobinhehe
16:17.59Fin~cookie
16:18.12Fin~cookie
16:18.23Wobin~cookie
16:18.33cncfanaticsProvus, when ur here, I can't do any checks for macro's yet, blizzard only implements the API I need for 2.3; and about the 'odities' for highlights, when you have a buff on someone else, a button lights blue, when its on urself, it turns green, if its both on ur target & on urself, it'll still be blue
16:18.33Fin~cookie
16:18.37Wobin~weathercode sydney
16:18.38purlweathercode sydney is probably YSSY located in Australia. 33-57S 151-11E.
16:18.46nevcairiel~weathercode hamburg
16:19.00nevcairielboo purl!
16:19.05Fin~~cpustats
16:19.10Wobinhuh, I have no idea what those numbers mean
16:19.14cncfanatics~weathercode brussels
16:19.22cncfanaticsWobin, coordinates ?
16:19.23nevcairielWobin: the coordinates, probably
16:19.28Zhinjiodegrees, minutes
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16:19.31Wobinbut why weathercode?
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16:19.39Finpurl, fintesting is cheese
16:19.39purlokay, Fin
16:19.43Finpurl, forget fintesting
16:19.43purli forgot fintesting, Fin
16:19.51Fin~fintesting
16:19.56Finpurl, unforget fintesting
16:19.56purlFin: Successfully recovered 'fintesting'.  Have fun now.
16:19.58Wobin~weathercode
16:20.02Ellipsiso.O
16:20.02nevcairielWobin: thats the airport, they tie those codes to airports, no idea why
16:20.04Ellipsisunforget?
16:20.08Finyep
16:20.09Finunforget
16:20.13Ellipsishax
16:20.17Finhmm, doesn't seem to work, though
16:20.21Finpurl, fintesting?
16:20.21purlwell, fintesting is cheese
16:20.21EllipsisI noticed
16:20.24Wobin~weathercode yssy
16:20.25purl[weathercode yssy] Sydney (Sydney)
16:20.26Finah
16:20.27Finyes it is
16:20.33Ellipsismaybe it's just slow
16:20.34nevcairiel~weather yssy
16:20.46Fin~factinfo fintesting
16:20.46purlfintesting -- created by Fin <n=Fin@mimi.instinct.org> 1m 7s ago; last modified 1m 3s ago  by fin; it has been requested once, last by Fin, 25s ago.
16:20.49Wobinhuh, that's about right I guess =P
16:21.05Wobin~weathercode sydney observatory
16:21.07Fin~factstats new
16:21.18Fin~factstats author
16:21.24Wobin~emulate art3mis
16:21.24purlI'm not special enough
16:21.29Wobinhehe
16:21.30Fin~factstats profanity
16:21.40Fin98 by adys - hmm
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16:21.55Fin~listkeys wow
16:22.30Fin~factstats requesters
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16:22.49Fin~cpustats
16:22.49purlTotal CPU usage: 706.7 s ... Total used: 2.0 % (parent/child ratio: 100.0 %)
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16:23.01Finthat's a lot lower than I thought
16:23.31Finhttp://fin.instinct.org/bits/purl.txt
16:23.43nevcairiel~weather edhi
16:23.50nevcairielha found it
16:24.24cncfanatics~weather belgium
16:24.38Zhinjio~weather denver
16:24.39cncfanatics~weathercode belgium
16:24.53nevcairielyou need to figure out the ICAO code of your airport
16:24.59durcyn~weather KAUS
16:25.15ulic~weather dia
16:25.27cncfanaticscba
16:25.33durcynyou fail
16:25.37balstor~weather mia
16:25.46durcynit's not an airport code, btw
16:25.55ulicI was just guessing
16:26.07Finpurl, memusage is <reply> memory usage is currently $memusage
16:26.08purl...but memusage is already something else...
16:26.13Fin~literal memusage
16:26.14purl"memusage" is "<reply>Remember, memory usage on Linux/UNIX is non-trivial. Take a look at http://developer.kde.org/documentation/other/shared_memory.html for general info, and http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/ for some kde-specific measurements"
16:26.22Finpurl, purlmemusage is <reply> memory usage is currently $memusage
16:26.22purlokay, Fin
16:26.24nevcairielyeah well its meteorological stations
16:26.26Fin~purlmemusage
16:26.26purlmemory usage is currently 18780
16:26.30nevcairielbut those mostly sit on airports
16:26.54durcynnevcairiel: yes, but ICAO code <> airport code
16:26.56Finno, purlmemusage is <reply> memory usage is currently $memusage KB
16:27.03Fin~purlmemusage
16:27.03purlmemory usage is currently 18780
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16:27.11Finpurl: no, purlmemusage is <reply> memory usage is currently $memusage KB
16:27.11purlFin: okay
16:27.22Zhinjio~weather KBJC
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16:27.36balstor~weather KMSY
16:27.36Ackisok i gotta try this...
16:27.39cncfanatics~emulate Fin
16:27.39purlI think naked warriors have certain other issues to work out before they start worrying too much about talents
16:27.44Ackis~weather CYZU
16:27.54Fin!
16:27.57cncfanaticsstop the fucking weather spam already
16:27.57Borked|Raiderin bartender, if i disable the bars 1, 3,4,5,6,7 or something, those that are default enabled? will it fuck up my bars the day i log on from a non addon wow client ?
16:28.07Ackiswheee my home town shows up
16:28.15alextBorked|Raider: nope
16:28.26cncfanaticsBorked|Raider,alext, if you change anything on the nonaddon client, yes
16:28.33cncfanaticsas its saved serverside
16:28.46nevcairielbartender was designed to not fuck with your bars
16:28.49alextwell disabling bar's in BT3, then running with no addons...you will still see the bars
16:28.51nevcairielunless you start moving spells :P
16:29.28Borked|Raiderso i can just disable those from start and enable bar 8-9-10 and configure those for this pc when useing bartender and when not having bartender my bars will be as they are now
16:29.30Pkekyowhy the hell does people say "DDoS attack" and not just "DoS attack"?  Denial Denial of Service attack?
16:29.47ZhinjioDistributed
16:29.55nevcairielBorked|Raider: yep
16:29.55Pkekyoah
16:30.31Pkekyoisn't 'denial of service' descriptive enough though?
16:30.35cncfanaticsflexbar doesn't mess with actionid's at all, you could try that also Borked|Raider
16:30.41nevcairielDD is more evil :p
16:30.49Pkekyonevcairiel: howso?
16:30.51Zhinjioconsierably
16:30.54Zhinjio+d
16:30.57nevcairielDoS would be from one source, DDoS from multiple sources
16:31.09Zhinjioits very simple to block a single source attack.
16:31.15Pkekyoah, makes a bit more sense then :)
16:31.18Zhinjioits far more difficult to block a distributed one
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16:31.36Ellipsishm
16:31.37Borked|Raidercncfanatics, naa think i am fine with bartender if it just fuck up my normal bars :)
16:31.47Ellipsiswhat kind of gear do I need to start running heroics?
16:31.53Ellipsis(warlock)
16:31.56Ackislegendaries
16:32.02nevcairielyep, legendaries.
16:32.06Ackisdual wield ateish
16:32.11Ellipsisk Ackis, will do
16:32.14[gk]Hotphoenixartifacts perfered
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16:32.22Pkekyojust thought it was like on the airport when they add another word to make it sound important... "we would like to start the boarding process"/"We would like to start the boarding" <--- means exactly the same thing, process is a complete waste
16:32.25Pkekyo:>
16:32.32balstorcncfanatics pong
16:32.32nevcairieljust get good blue
16:32.37cncfanaticsbalstor, yes ?
16:32.38nevcairielyour dungeon set or so
16:32.39HjalteEllipsis: If you can do 900 dps, as you said earlier, you should be pretty well off in heroics.
16:32.44EllipsisHjalte, hmkay
16:32.47nevcairieland the craftable epics for your lock
16:32.54Ellipsisall but spellstrike
16:32.57balstordid you get that last bug i reported or did it get lost?
16:33.01EllipsisI was gonna wait on those but I can't afford it for a while
16:33.06cncfanaticsthink not, what one balstor ?
16:33.11nevcairielspellstrike isnt too much of a boost tbh
16:33.16EllipsisI only have ~860 shadow dmg though
16:33.18nevcairielfrozen shadoweave is tho
16:33.19EllipsisI was hoping to hit 1k or so
16:33.20balstori define a key binding alt-h and i then bind it to my mouse, when i first log in, the binding doesn't work, if i click the button, then the bindings work.
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16:33.32EllipsisI've had FSW since I was level 63 :P
16:33.34cncfanaticsbalstor, it doesn't ? weird
16:33.58cncfanaticsbalstor, could u pastey me the savedvars for that button ?
16:33.58nevcairieli hit 950 shadow dmg just yesterday, but i lack some spell hit
16:34.03balstorthe point being is the button doesn't recgonize the key press until i click it.
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16:34.14Ackisi'm almost at 1000 holy damage lol
16:34.19cncfanaticsits weird, nothing is done on click for keybindings
16:34.21Ackisgo go smite dps!
16:34.21nevcairiel!c eu antonidas orlin
16:34.23ThraeBotnevcairiel: Orlin, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (19/42/0). 6963 HP; 7627 Mana; 133 mana regen; 110 spell crit; 37 spell hit; 725 +spell dmg; 179 frost dmg (904); 179 shadow dmg (904); 4.16% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10); +35 all resists (+10 arcane);[[ TBR: 711 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23vvex ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2w8lzw ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 12:37:46 2007 EST ]]
16:34.28nevcairielhm
16:34.32nevcairielwhat am i not wearing
16:34.37EllipsisI'm really low on spell hit :/
16:34.37cncfanaticsbalstor, check the bindings lua code ? I can't see anything wrong there
16:34.44EllipsisI got owned so hard when I did kazzak with my guild
16:34.50Ellipsisevery other cast was a resist it seemed
16:35.01Ackiskazzak is an evil evil fight
16:35.12Ellipsis!c us cenarius Ellipsis
16:35.14ThraeBotEllipsis: Ellipsis, Level 70 Human Warlock (43/0/18). 7470 HP; 8020 Mana; 125 mana regen; 6 spell crit; 90 spell hit; 691 +spell dmg; 179 frost dmg (870); 179 shadow dmg (870); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 825 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuuupd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q7kuc ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 12:38:37 2007 EST ]]
16:35.17nevcairielyeah, boss mobs are evil without hit
16:35.19Ackismy 7-9 FPS drops down to 2-3 :(
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16:35.48Ellipsiser, my armory seems not to have updated o.O
16:36.12Ellipsisoh well, it's only one item diff
16:36.18Ackishahah i have more dodge than you
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16:36.24Ellipsisgrats?
16:36.46Ackisimma priest, dodge counts yah know :P
16:37.14Ellipsislol
16:37.33Ackisi've got .06 more dodge than an undead priest... i throw that in their faces when they mock the power of the troll
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16:39.00Ackiswhat's the TBR mean in that armory profile?
16:39.00xyu`then they WoTF
16:39.09xyu`~tbr
16:39.10purlwell, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released")
16:39.37Borked|Raiderthat fadeout option in bartender, it dont work in combat right?
16:39.43ZhinjioIs this a "proper" branches path? http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/<addon>/<branchname>/<addon>/
16:39.46nevcairielit should
16:40.08nevcairielZhinjio: basicly, we tend to skip the last addon tho
16:40.14durcynZhinjio: branches/addon/branch usually
16:40.32Zhinjiobut the wowace part of that path is required, yes?
16:40.41nevcairielyes
16:40.46Zhinjiook, I'll try that.
16:41.39Zhinjiothank you.
16:41.54ZhinjioI was getting very frustrated, and I"m way too tired to figure out what was wrong.
16:41.57Zhinjioits working
16:43.23NeoTronso we 21 manned Rage Winterchill (all ppl attuned didn't show) on our second attempt
16:43.32NeoTronhe's ... easy
16:43.36nevcairielyeah he is a pussy like that
16:44.07NeoTronalthough
16:44.08Ackishis trash is harder than he is lol
16:44.17NeoTronwe were delayed one hour because we didn't have our prot pally - he overslept
16:44.25NeoTronthing is, we only had two other warrior tanks attuned :)
16:44.35NeoTronbut yeah prot pally + 5 warlocks made the trash = win
16:44.41HallucinosisI am so done with raiding. heh
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16:46.46NeoTronhaving a blast
16:46.52NeoTronfinally nice to do something new
16:47.00NeoTronventured briefly into BTw
16:47.39HallucinosisThe guild I recently left kills everything, but the required raiding schedule is 6 days a week, 6 hours a day
16:47.53Hallucinosiselse they will replace you
16:47.55Ellipsiswhere do I sign up?
16:48.09Fisker-~seen nymbia
16:48.12purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-136-127.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14h 12m 31s ago, saying: 'Elgrim: sharedmedia'.
16:48.13Hallucinosissec
16:48.34NeoTronHyjal is fun though - I did on average 3398 DPS on the trash
16:49.12NeoTronHallucinosis: we raid 4 nights per week, and require 75% attendance for "core raider" ("Raider" has no attendance requirments but is more of a backup)
16:50.53NeoTronsomething I also learned is that if you don't pick trash epics of the trash before you wipe on the boss (or trash) it vanishes
16:50.55Hallucinosishttp://www.guildnascent.com/index.php
16:51.12NeoTronlost two epic patterns (ironically we got the exact same two patterns dropping later)
16:51.36Hallucinosistheir web page address changed for the 3rd time in 4 months
16:51.37Hallucinosishehe
16:52.04durcyn6x6 is a bit much
16:52.17NeoTronand yet they just recently cleared BT :P
16:52.35Hallucinosisthey're ranked like 160 world and 60 something US
16:52.38Speeddymonwhat is the link for wowace's fisheye?
16:52.46NeoTronbut yeah, 36 hours of manadatory raiding is pretty crazy
16:52.47HallucinosisI guess that's the schedule it takes
16:53.00durcynwe do four and a half five nights a week, and illidan's just as dead =P
16:53.01NeoTrona guild on my server raids 5x4
16:53.08NeoTron5 nights, 4 hrs
16:53.09stavmarhas anyone thought about the guild banks and the potential mods for them?
16:53.13NeoTronthey recently cleared BT
16:53.20Borked|RaiderTrying to make something in eepanels2 atm, but i find my self abit limited atm? is there something i can do to get more default textures in the menu to make something nice, or do i have to know the texture i want and such?
16:53.28NeoTronwe raid just 4x4 and as noted, just made it into hyjal
16:53.38EllipsisBorked|Raider: if you want more textures, you have to supply them
16:53.45Hallucinosiswell, I don't raid at all!
16:53.46Hallucinosishaha
16:53.49Hallucinosisnow
16:53.58HallucinosisI stopped actually about 3-4 months ago
16:54.04Hallucinosisbefore the new stuff was out
16:54.12Borked|Raiderso no easy way for me to get some ekstra, i will have to find path for em my self and add?
16:54.12NeoTronHallucinosis: I take it the average age in that guild is like 18 or something :P
16:54.19NeoTronlots of ppl living at home in the basement
16:54.32HallucinosisEarly 20's I'd guess
16:54.37HallucinosisI'm 29 though
16:54.46Speeddymonanyone?
16:54.50snurreim so glad i quit wow :p
16:54.56NeoTronaverage age in my build is probably high 20s or low 30s
16:55.11cncfanaticsWTB raiding guild heh
16:55.15cncfanaticsthats what I'm damn rerolling for atm :p
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16:55.16stavmarAverage aga in ours is about 24
16:55.36durcynstavmar: it'd be nice to have a cache of it, i guess
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16:56.10NeoTronI hope to see Kael'thas die tomorrow easily
16:56.26NeoTronwe're going to try to get maybe 5 more ppl attuned, some who haven't been there before
16:56.29NeoTronso I'm a bit afraid
16:57.19Borked|Raiderare there a page where i can see diff textures for creating frames in eepanels?
16:57.56Ellipsisyou can google around, some people make texture packs and stuff
17:01.18HjalteTanks; Does shield block have any effect on tanking Hydross?
17:01.39MegalonHjalte: nope
17:02.06Megalonyou can't block his melee attack
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17:04.46HjalteMegalon, thanks
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17:05.36Industrialcrap whats the dps meters again
17:05.40Industrialon files.wowace.com?
17:05.43Industrialneed one quickly :3
17:05.45HjalteViolation ?
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17:05.47durcynviolation, recount, assessment
17:05.48Industrialta!
17:07.01Chompwhere would Recount keep its data?
17:07.20Chompi'm trying to fix the Unknown bug and think it's Recount
17:08.22Chompfound it, sorry
17:08.26Chompwasn't looking hard enough
17:08.40balstorAFK
17:11.03cryogencncfanatics: too many subs, not enough fields :D
17:11.43cncfanaticscryogen, agree :p
17:11.48cncfanaticscan't rly add more fields though
17:11.55cryogenya
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17:15.07cncfanaticscryogen, and the FB savedvars are starting to get HUGE
17:15.19Fisker-COME ON
17:15.36cryogenheh
17:15.54Fisker-totally out of the blue our raid leader tells us we'll be taking leotharas next sunday
17:16.04Fisker-oh well thanks for the prep time :<
17:16.15dodgaprep time for what?
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17:16.22Chompsounds like fun
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17:16.36Fisker-well first we started out with hydross
17:16.42Fisker-"Nah morogrim should be easier"
17:16.46Fisker-then we got to morogrim
17:16.53Fisker-"Nah karathress should be easier#"
17:16.57Fisker-and now leo
17:17.06dodgaFisker-: But you didn't down any of those?
17:17.14Fisker-no
17:17.23Fisker-they've been pingponging between those bosses
17:17.23dodgaOkay, that sucks then. Raids should settle for one
17:17.30gnorlishlurker's the only real cheese boss in there
17:17.40Chompsame fisker, we're doing that now
17:17.54Fisker-not to mention i have to go out get some spell damage gear
17:17.55Chompwe stuck with alar eventually
17:18.07Fisker-instead we could just progress through morogrim or hydross
17:18.13Fisker-and wait for leo when patch 2.3 arrives
17:18.22Fisker-it's not THAT far off given our current progress
17:18.44cryogenlol at selling stv pages for insane amounts
17:19.57Chomphydross tonight
17:20.00Chompwoop
17:20.29cncfanaticscryogne, how's ur AH char called ?
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17:22.17cryogencncfanatics: Galencia
17:22.35cncfanaticsheh
17:22.43cncfanaticsu also called ur bank alt like ur old main , like me :p
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17:32.23cryogenya i couldnt use my main name cause i got amale char
17:32.29cryogenand people dont buy from "bank" named alts
17:34.13Wobinfeh
17:34.15Wobinwhy not?
17:34.44WobinIt's not like it's any more genuine coming from another name
17:34.53EllipsisI don't buy from bank alts
17:35.02Ellipsisbecause I know that if it doesn't sell they'll just re-list it cheaper
17:35.08Ellipsisso I can get a better deal if I wait
17:35.14Wobinas opposed to just about everyone else?
17:35.18cryogenWobin: see? ;p
17:35.29Ellipsisidk about you, but if I can't sell a green after one or two tries I just DE it
17:35.32WobinAnd I never relist cheaper =P
17:35.38WobinI just relist at the same price
17:35.39Ellipsisor vendor/give it away if it's not DEable
17:35.44Wobinif -you- don't buy it, someone else will
17:35.51Ellipsiseventually
17:36.00cryogenplus some stupid people buy from female sounding names
17:36.02Wobinand bank alts have nothing more than time =)
17:36.15Ellipsisbut not infinite gold to re-list
17:36.22Wobinfeh it's cheap enough to relist
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17:36.42Wobinand if they're bank alts, they undoubtedly have enough petty cash to do as they will in relisting
17:36.54Wobinand selling even one item can fund plenty of relists
17:36.56Ellipsisyes but eventually the re-list cost outweighs the actual difference in price
17:37.11Ellipsisso listing it lower the first time and actually selling it would have gotten them MORE cash
17:37.26cryogeni dont give a flying ass about relist costs tbh
17:37.35cryogeni put it up for how much the current market value is
17:37.40cryogenand if it doesnt sell i rescan and list again
17:37.41Wobinrelist costs aren't even a valid argument =P
17:37.47cryogeneventuallyi'll jsut vendor it
17:37.47Wobinyou got the item for free
17:37.54Wobinyou'll get cash from it somehow
17:37.57Wobinand you make a profit!
17:38.12Wobinyou'd have to relist it 20 times to even get near a loss
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17:43.05EllipsisWobin: yes but like I said, you can make more money if you just list it low in the first place
17:43.16Ellipsisand if you're buying/reselling instead of just selling your drops, that makes sense
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17:43.19CIA-12- Semi-working now for base types. (not color / keybind)
17:43.19CIA-12- Add quite a few tests. Not much nega-testing yet.
17:48.33cryogencncfanatics: that friend of mine who had the shaman is copying a char over instead
17:48.36cryogenhis 44 warrior
17:48.40cryogenbringing me some gold :D
17:48.45cryogenassuming pct isnt closed ofc
17:48.49HallucinosisI heard someone say something to the effect that arena points won't carry over in 2.3
17:48.51Hallucinosisis this true?
17:48.59cryogennot true
17:49.05Hallucinosishmm
17:49.05KeiasHallucinosis, there was a blue post saying
17:49.19Keias"My warrior will have the season 3 sword the first week of Arena Season 3"
17:49.29Hallucinosisbecause I was going to save, but
17:49.31KeiasSo it's pretty safe to assume they will be carrying over
17:49.40Hallucinosishmm
17:49.42cryogenthere's also a blue post specifically denying that they will be reset
17:49.43HallucinosisI hope so!
17:49.48cryogensaying "they will carry over, feel free to stock up"
17:49.49Hallucinosisok, sweet
17:49.50Hallucinosisthanks!
17:50.31Wobinyeah, it'll carry through
17:50.32Hallucinosismy pvp gear is bad right now, but I'm saving up and I'd rather skip getting more 2nd season
17:51.02KeiasI was saving up
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17:51.14KeiasBut I got impatient and bought my s2 chest :(
17:51.49Hallucinosishehe... I joined some Random 5v5 team, because I just transferred to Boulderfist a few weeks ago (I left my raiding guild + Nazjatar because there was 0 PvP on that server)
17:52.03Hallucinosisit's actually quite funny though
17:52.06Hallucinosis2 MS warriors
17:52.13Hallucinosisand they wanted me to go AP/PoM fire spec
17:52.19HallucinosisI was like you want what?
17:52.51cncfanaticscryogen, is that ereal ?N
17:52.55cryogenno
17:52.59cryogenthe other one
17:53.03cryogenereal is like, a nilifer
17:53.06cryogenwhat level is he now?
17:53.50cncfanaticsno idea
17:53.53cncfanaticshe gonna raid with us btw ?
17:54.03cryogendunno
17:54.06cryogenhis pala is in a good guild
17:54.09cncfanaticsonly 19 it seems
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17:55.50DustwhisperIs there any macro/script/addon for looting or atleast opening lootwindow on weapons on KT?
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18:37.03stavmar_if you have to see it, interesting starcraft CNN Report in S Korea..http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2007/10/17/intv.eosk.gaming.hahn.cnn
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18:44.38Ozguli-21:43:29- (Ozguli) Read the manual, please!
18:44.38Ozguli-21:43:34- (oneplayer) where?
18:44.56OzguliNOOOOO, stupid people!
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18:46.03NeoTronDustwhisper: you press your right mouse button, it does it for you
18:46.08NeoTronAka, no there is not
18:46.29RaydenUnicyclisthttp://raydenuni.com/wow/logs/wws-20071022-0205/ <-- does this sem about right for a guild just starting KZ? That is just from Attument.
18:47.52NeoTronretardedly specced warlock with crap dps
18:47.53NeoTronwoot
18:49.03RaydenUnicyclist!c us destromath morkite
18:49.05ThraeBotRaydenUnicyclist: Morkite, Level 70 Orc Warlock (5/5/51). 7310 HP; 8635 Mana; 128 mana regen; 116 spell crit; 17 spell hit; 594 +spell dmg; 4.24% dodge; 14 resilience;[[ TBR: 708 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zgmnx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dqcrw ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 14:52:29 2007 EST ]]
18:49.07NeoTronso I think I can outdps both razorbeast and the lock on my paladin when specced for holy dps
18:49.14NeoTronand my pally has crap gear
18:49.17NeoTronso yeah it's pretty sad
18:49.24RaydenUnicyclistrazorbeast isn't geared well
18:49.31RaydenUnicyclistnot sure why the lock is doing crappy
18:49.58durcynwtf, 5/5/51?
18:50.11RaydenUnicyclistis that a bad talent build?
18:50.14NeoTronhorrible
18:50.18NeoTronit's possibly ok for pvp
18:50.18RaydenUnicyclisti've never played a lock
18:50.24durcynawful
18:50.29NeoTronbut completely useless for pve
18:50.29Ellipsiswho does that
18:51.00RaydenUnicyclistalright, i'll tell him to stop being retarded and do some research
18:51.06NeoTronif you play destruction pve you go 0/21/40 shadow dps
18:51.10RaydenUnicyclistany tips on where to get info on warlock pve builds?
18:51.10KarlThePagan5/5/51 is super awesome PvE dps IF you have a shadow priest
18:51.12NeoTronperiod
18:51.18RaydenUnicyclisti'm a spriest
18:51.19NeoTronKarlThePagan: hardly
18:51.21RaydenUnicyclistand i was there for that
18:51.38NeoTronyou lose a flat out 15% damage from the lack of sac succubus and instant corruption doesn't make up for that loss
18:51.39Ellipsiswhat can you possibly do with 51 points in dest
18:51.41KarlThePaganneo wanna see some WWS with destro and a shadow priest?
18:51.53RaydenUnicyclistlink to a good warlock build?
18:51.53OzguliBah, the 1.4 speed epic dagger from heroic something isn't so good as all, I can't be a mutilate rogue properly with it...
18:51.57NeoTronpyroclasm, aftermath and shadowfury is not useful for pve
18:52.11RaydenUnicyclistshould warlocks spec differently if there is a spriest?
18:52.12NeoTronand with his gear, he should go affliction due to the low spell hit
18:53.05NeoTronRaydenUnicyclist: destruction and demo works betterw with one but it doesn't affect what talent builds are good
18:53.11Ellipsisoh btw guys, what's hit cap?
18:53.14NeoTronKarlThePagan: why would I want to see that?
18:53.18NeoTron16^
18:53.29NeoTronKarlThePagan: I _am_ a warlock
18:53.40RaydenUnicyclistNeoTron do you have a link to a warlock build you would suggest?
18:53.44RaydenUnicyclistsomething i can send Morkite?
18:53.45NeoTronand I've tried a shadow fury build when we were learning morogrim. it's crap
18:54.05vhaarrhaste: yeah that code was written ages ago, I'll just remove the _G's
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18:54.18NightHawkAtWorkEllipsis: 17% vs raid bosses for spells, i believe?
18:54.21haste:3
18:54.30KarlThePagan16% is cap
18:54.41KarlThePagan1% can't be mitigated by +hit
18:54.44Ellipsishow much rating I mean
18:55.20ccKep202?
18:55.29NightHawkAtWorkdo the math yourself? :P
18:55.38Ellipsishmkay
18:55.42KarlThePaganyea 202
18:55.51KarlThePagan201.8348 somethin...
18:55.51NeoTronhttp://wowhead.com/?talent=IEMrVMfkVt0oZxx0pr is a pretty cookie cutter affliction build for ppl that lack spell hit.
18:55.54Ellipsiscan a lock get by with less than 202 with some points in supression? or do the SB resists add up
18:56.05NeoTronhe really does not have the gear for meaningful destruction dps with that low spell hit
18:56.06KarlThePaganSB resists are bad
18:56.48ccKepsupression = affliction spells, shadowbolt = destruction spell
18:56.56Ellipsisthat's why I asked the question ccKep.
18:57.04ccKepyep, and thats the answer ;)
18:57.07NeoTronhttp://wowhead.com/?talent=IZdxczIbzZxx0tr0tmbA but that's a reasonble sac succubus build
18:57.14Killmoredestruction lock in my guild are crazy :|
18:57.23ccKepno way around 202 hitrating
18:57.30Ellipsisbleh, guess I have a long way to go before I can respec =[
18:57.32durcynless than 200 hit is... dumb
18:57.37NeoTronand the goal is to get 202 hit rating
18:57.42NeoTronor rather 16% hit
18:57.44NeoTronregardless of spec
18:57.46durcyneven as 41/1/19, more than half of my damage is shadowbolt
18:57.53NeoTronas affliction you get out of suppression once you get there
18:58.05Ellipsisyeah I know
18:58.08NeoTronit is by far the number one stat for a lock to increase dps
18:58.09Ellipsisthat's why I'm sad
18:58.17Ellipsisbecause I have 3 supression since my hit rating is only 102
18:58.24Ellipsisand I want those points for other stuff :(
18:58.34NeoTronEllipsis: do you have spell hit glvoe enchant?
18:58.46NeoTronspell hit trinket from that blob in netherstorm that you kill for a quest item?
18:58.58NeoTron8 spell hit gems?
18:59.19EllipsisI have hit/dmg gems, and I'm gonna put the enchant on as soon as I get decent gloves
18:59.20RaydenUnicyclistso back to my guildmate Morkite who needs to respec, how deep into affliction do you recommend?
18:59.23Ellipsiswhat blob?
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19:00.05RaydenUnicyclisthttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?2502220512231115512012050000000000000000000505000010000000000000 <-- something liek this? 43/7/11 ?
19:00.06NeoTron41 minimum
19:00.11NeoTrondid you see my link?
19:00.14RaydenUnicyclistno i didn't
19:00.21EllipsisI know I'm not maxed yet, but I have very limited cash atm, so I'm trying to save the expensive gems/enchants for when I get decent gear >_>
19:00.21RaydenUnicyclistoh there
19:00.25NeoTronhttp://wowhead.com/?talent=IEMrVMfkVt0oZxx0pr
19:00.26RaydenUnicyclistsuccubus build
19:00.40RaydenUnicyclistoh a different one ok
19:00.49CIA-1203toadkiller * r52917 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
19:00.49CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
19:00.49CIA-12-- Fel Blossom (buff)
19:00.49CIA-12-- Shield & Chest buffs added to Consumable.Buff Group.General.Self
19:00.49NeoTronyou really want the non-interrupt talent especially once you get to illhoof
19:01.11CIA-1203rabbit * r52918 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Disable oGlow for the character frame when adding or updating item sets.
19:01.41NeoTronEllipsis: http://wowhead.com/?quest=10413
19:01.46Ellipsisty
19:02.00EllipsisI haven't done netherstorm quests yet
19:02.01RaydenUnicyclistillhoof?
19:02.02NeoTronquest item drops from http://wowhead.com/?npc=20779
19:02.12Ellipsisso I'll have to make sure to go get that one
19:02.15NeoTronit's not a quest you pick up, but a mob that drops a quest item
19:02.18RaydenUnicyclistooh i need to do that quest
19:02.37RaydenUnicyclist26 spell hit rating
19:02.38Ellipsisah, I see
19:02.48NeoTronRaydenUnicyclist: easiest way to do illhoof is to have the warlock hellfire AoE
19:02.49Killmorewhat is the normal DPS of your warlocks in raid (WWS) ?
19:02.53Ellipsisyeah, I'm using the tablet of vim =[
19:02.54NeoTronunless you have a prot pally that can tank them all
19:03.03RaydenUnicyclistwhat is illhoof?
19:03.10Ellipsis....
19:03.15EllipsisRaydenUnicyclist, what level are you?
19:03.17RaydenUnicyclist70
19:03.20NeoTronboss in Kara
19:03.22RaydenUnicyclistwe are just starting KZ
19:03.31RaydenUnicyclisti ran it for the first time last night
19:03.50NeoTronKillmore: depends a lot on the fight?
19:03.51RaydenUnicyclistoh ok
19:03.56RaydenUnicyclistyeah we ahven't gotten that far
19:04.19NeoTronKillmore: any specific boss you might be interested in?
19:04.39NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/u1ktiftoqcbgk?s=2164-2752
19:04.47KillmoreNeoTron: teron, archimonde, najentus, supremus.. boss without AE
19:05.10durcynNeoTron: uh, hellfire?  seed, imo.
19:05.14*** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@85-210-153-61.dsl.pipex.com)
19:05.47RaydenUnicyclist!c us destromath yulati
19:05.50ThraeBotRaydenUnicyclist: Yulati, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/4/49). 13119 HP; 12538 Armour; 940 AP; 120.900 Melee DPS; 10.29% melee crit; 6 melee hit; 363 defense; 18.29% dodge; 18.44% block; 21 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1254 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2e7hac ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2orlso ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 15:09:14 2007 EST ]]
19:05.50xyuwhat's the command to disband an arena team?
19:05.57NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/uhk1nt5cdh6qc?s=7405-7825
19:06.06Killmoreone of your warlock almost go at 2k dps on single target dps..
19:06.13RaydenUnicyclistwould you guys mind quickly browsing that warrior's build for tanking? He said he was kinda iffy about it and wanted some input.
19:06.14Killmoreour*
19:06.22NeoTrondurcyn: hellfire is hell of a lot more effective on illhoof
19:06.33NeoTronseed is almost impossible to cast while you're being hit by 8 imps
19:06.36NeoTronand costs a lot more mana
19:06.49NeoTronKillmore: we just started hyjal so..
19:07.03durcyneh, never had a problem, just demand concentration aura
19:07.16NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/rxpyl3vsixino?s=6858-7334
19:07.19NeoTronthat is all I can give you
19:07.19Killmorehttp://wowwebstats.com/6e26wgskaxx2i
19:07.26NeoTrondurcyn: of course, but that still doesn't help
19:07.37durcynsure it does
19:07.40NeoTronso you now onl have 70% chance of pushback ... whee
19:07.44NeoTronhellfire is a lot better
19:07.48NeoTrontry it sometime
19:08.02durcynnah.. if i ever run karazhan again, i'll kill myself
19:08.32OzguliHARHAR
19:08.45OzguliUh, I mean, what's the +hit melee needs against raid bosses?
19:09.13RaydenUnicyclisthttp://tinyurl.com/2orlso <-- feedback/criticisms on tanking build?
19:09.18NeoTronKillmore: we have good locks typically. naturally not that good due to not having any T6 gear
19:10.12KillmoreNeoTron: http://wowwebstats.com/t2upa1346ajum?s=13719-14223 4/5 hyjal
19:10.23NeoTronI'm currently felguard spec but might go back to destruction at some point (which really is my favorite raiding spec although felguard is surprisingly good at times)
19:11.09RaydenUnicyclistno one knows anything about warrior prot builds?
19:11.22Killmore!c us ysera Zaltor
19:11.23ThraeBotKillmore: Zaltor, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (0/21/40). 9672 HP; 8987 Mana; 104 mana regen; 400 spell crit; 179 spell hit; 1228 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (1282); 107 shadow dmg (1335); 4.47% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1398 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq7rd7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32mckm ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 15:14:47 2007 EST ]]
19:11.25NeoTronKillmore: so I pretty much performed on-par with your 2nd best warlock on our first rage kill
19:12.40NeoTronactually I slightly outperformed him. heh
19:12.43RaydenUniin that case anyone feel like criticising a shaman healing build?
19:13.00RaydenUni!c us destromath malaboo
19:13.02ThraeBotRaydenUni: Malaboo, Level 70 Troll Shaman (0/5/56). 6589 HP; 9569 Mana; 233 mana regen; 129 mp5; 7701 Armour; 70.400 Melee DPS; 5.43% melee crit; 3 spell crit; 180 +spell dmg; 1144 +heal; 5.65% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 956 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yt3rd8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35zckn ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 15:16:26 2007 EST ]]
19:13.06Ellipsishmm, wonder if I can solo that blob....
19:13.26NeoTronholy
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19:13.32NeoTronyou don't have a prot pally eh? :P
19:13.47RaydenUniwe have one pally who is a new 70 and he is healing
19:13.51NightHawkAtWorkRaydenUni: Personally, I'd drop imp revenge, and lose points elsewhere to pick up 5/5 imp 1h spec
19:13.54NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/rxpyl3vsixino?s=trash
19:14.01NeoTronI meant that for Killmore
19:14.13RaydenUnihttp://raydenuni.com/wow/logs/wws-20071022-0205/ <-- my guild at KZ last night
19:14.15NeoTronalmost 3400 dps in trash
19:14.49Killmorehehe nice :P
19:15.00RaydenUnithanks nightHawk
19:15.12NeoTronbut yeah our first night in hyjal with only 22 ppl
19:15.30NeoTronneed to get some more attunements going..
19:15.52KillmoreNeoTron: beter full hyjal clear http://wowwebstats.com/6wr5xzdji53og the 4/5 hyjal was a really bad night.. if you look at the % of presence of rage.. so much people die
19:15.57NightHawkAtWorkRaydenUni: I'd probably go with a build more like this, to be sure:
19:15.57NightHawkAtWorkhttp://wowhead.com/?talent=LV0cZVZ0EtoIMdMest
19:15.57Dustwhisperhttp://wowwebstats.com/xmgfdy2k6ensm
19:16.02Dustwhisperour guild attempting KT last night
19:16.14NeoTronyeah I noticed that
19:16.33RaydenUnithanks a lot nightHawk
19:16.54NeoTronso much better dps overallt han us :P
19:17.30NeoTronTempted to go back to destruction for sure
19:17.36NeoTronpet is annoying at times
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19:17.48RaydenUniNightHawkAtWork he said he'll try your build next run, so thanks :)
19:18.42Killmorethe zaltor guy need to stop dpsing he's always at 100-120% on omen.. he take break between casting, he cant go all out :(
19:18.48NightHawkAtWorkRaydenUni: Heh, no problem. :)
19:19.04RaydenUnihttp://tinyurl.com/35zckn <-- any shamans want to comment on this? then i'm done, none of my other guildmates are online
19:19.08RaydenUni:P
19:19.15RaydenUnihealing shaman
19:19.17NeoTronKillmore: hehel
19:19.25NeoTronKillmore: trinket from vashj perhaps?
19:19.34sedai|my shaman is enh
19:19.39sedai|smash!
19:19.46KillmoreNeoTron: we rarely give him a shadow priest and elemental shaman
19:19.50NeoTron!c us Kilrogg Adailise
19:19.52ThraeBotNeoTron: Adailise, Level 70 Human Paladin (10/44/7). 9387 HP; 6783 Mana; 151 mana regen; 58 mp5; 14375 Armour; 81.400 Melee DPS; 4.61% melee crit; 3 melee hit; 26 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 175 +spell dmg; 251 +heal; 279 defense; 9.89% dodge; 14.03% block; +25 all resists;[[ TBR: 903 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ysrngz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2todaw ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 15:23:16 2007 EST ]]
19:19.53KillmoreNeoTron: never dropped :(
19:20.05NeoTronthink I'd have a chance OTing kara with that ?
19:20.10NeoTrongot a mix of crap and epix
19:20.33NeoTronbut with a flask I'd be uncrittable and have close to 10k unbuffed health at least
19:21.08NightHawkAtWorkRaydenUni: Ancestral KNowledge is pointless. :)
19:21.18HjalteNeotron, I think our paladin offtank had similar gear the other day. I thought it was quite bad at least :)
19:21.19OzguliRaydenUni where do you get silenced or similar?
19:21.27NeoTronnote I've never tanked anything on my pally before, just decided to see what I could do with the leftover epics no one else needed
19:21.28RaydenUniwhat?
19:21.42NeoTronI have so far picked mostly healing epics :P
19:22.03Ozgulifocused mind..
19:22.09Ozgulinever played a shaman tho
19:22.33NeoTrondef should get some enchants too. hrm
19:22.34NightHawkAtWorkRaydenUni: for pure raid healing, this is probably a better build: http://wowhead.com/?talent=hxcZZEf0tqeoted
19:22.42RaydenUniin my experience i get silenced all the time and i must assume the healers do too
19:22.46RaydenUnia silenced healer is a BAD thing
19:23.10OzguliWhere o.O
19:23.21RaydenUnii forget
19:23.25RaydenUnimaybe i'm thinking of fear
19:23.37NightHawkAtWorkAlso, this is the build I use on my shaman: http://wowhead.com/?talent=hE0zZZEfctVeotcd
19:23.40RaydenUnii'm pretty sure some of the bosses in SL silence
19:23.50NightHawkAtWorkIt's got a bit more solo utility to it
19:23.58Ozgulioh, didn't play attention then
19:24.13RaydenUniwhat do you play?
19:24.16CIA-1203lilsparky * r52919 10LilSparkysWorkshop/ (5 files):
19:24.16CIA-12LilSparkysWorkshop:
19:24.16CIA-12- added toggle to value column to show as real values or as percent of cost
19:24.31Ozgulirogue, but lately rerolled a priest..
19:24.34RaydenUni3 seconds of silence on a spriest is unfortunate, 3 seconds of silence on the healer is a wipe
19:24.44RaydenUnirogues don't get silenced :P
19:24.59Ozguliand no I'm not even there yet but had a good view on some raid guild @ some lan party
19:26.11RaydenUniwould you guys mind looking at a fury warrior quickly? i know i said i was done but our warrior isn't doing the dps and it would be nice to know if it is his gear or his build
19:26.14NeoTronRaydenUni: heard of "hots"?
19:26.23RaydenUni!c us destromath razorbeast
19:26.25ThraeBotRaydenUni: Razorbeast, Level 70 Orc Warrior (0/59/2). 7614 HP; 7086 Armour; 1372 AP; 167.700 Melee DPS; 24.98% melee crit; 115 melee hit; 13 +spell dmg/heal; 6.76% dodge; 5.24% block; 3 resilience;[[ TBR: 1925 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yob2rg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jkpwf ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 15:29:49 2007 EST ]]
19:26.40NightHawkAtWorkNeoTron: shaman don't have hots. ><
19:26.51snurrewow, http://imdb.com/title/tt0872224/ was an ace film
19:26.57NeoTronof course
19:27.06NeoTronbut you have earth shield
19:27.15NightHawkAtWorkyeah, certainly
19:27.19RaydenUnibut you don't know when you are going to get silenced
19:27.21NightHawkAtWorkbut it can only be placed on one person
19:27.29NeoTronusually you do know
19:27.30Fisker-oh my god
19:27.39Fisker-i hate blizzard sooooooooooo much now
19:27.44NightHawkAtWorkyeah, silences are fairly predictable in pve
19:27.59RaydenUnioh ok
19:28.00NeoTronFisker-: ?
19:28.02Fisker-after a day of teaching n00bs how to play lurker trash respawn when we have him at 10% without anyone dead
19:28.13RaydenUnii haven't healed since i hit 60 so i haven't paid too much attention to it
19:28.19CIA-1203toadkiller * r52920 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
19:28.19CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
19:28.19CIA-12- Undo some changes to Consumable.Buff Group.General.Self.
19:28.22NeoTronahah yeah that happened to us
19:28.27NeoTron"wtf? fish? gah!"
19:28.38Fisker-whine tiem
19:28.45NeoTronespecailly fun since we ran a SP group with pallies healing the MT under water at all times
19:28.46RaydenUnilurker?
19:29.04NeoTronThe Lurker Below, a boss in SSC
19:29.13NeoTronbig evil fish
19:29.17NeoTronthingie
19:29.17RaydenUniah
19:30.21snurreearlier today a norwegian radio station had a call-in segment about what jobs people were willing to do for free.. no less than three people called/texted/mailed in to say game master for wow :p
19:30.29snurre..if they only knew.. :p
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19:30.48RaydenUnii'd enjoy it for a week maybe
19:31.10RaydenUniif only to appreciate what they do
19:31.28RaydenUnihttp://tinyurl.com/2jkpwf <-- so warrior fury build comments?
19:31.37RaydenUniall this info should be really helpful
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19:32.29MegalonRaydenUni: 17-44-0 is the standard build for fury dps
19:32.53Megalon59 in fury is .. way to much, points that could be spent more useful in arms to get impale
19:33.28RaydenUnifor pve?
19:33.56Megalonyes
19:33.57HjalteWhy is he using all those talent points in the lower end fury tree? That's stupid.. and slam? Is he using a 2h weapon?
19:34.18Megalonhe has not specced dual wield so 2h fury?
19:34.19RaydenUnia couple of maces it looks like...
19:34.34snurrewithout dw spec? o.O
19:34.47Megalonah, omg
19:35.11HjalteWhat a disturbed creature that guy is.. gkick imo.
19:35.41Ozguliat least no points in improved rend
19:35.47snurrelol @his chestpiece
19:36.23Megalonoh, just looked at his talents
19:36.27Megalonnot his equip
19:37.10snurrehm, he's got like less AP than my lvl60 warr
19:37.17snurrewhich i havent touched since 2.0.1 patchday
19:37.24NightHawkAtWorkmeh, give the guy a break, not everyone knows everything about the game *shrug*
19:37.52RaydenUninot everyone loves looking up builds and fine tuning them
19:37.58RaydenUnii do, but i'm special :P
19:38.02*** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=chatzill@host-83-166-25-145.serva.net)
19:38.06RaydenUniwhich is why my current build is awesome
19:38.19HjalteNightHawkAtWork: If you are in a guild and needs to perform the least you can do is ask your warrior CL what talents he recommends...
19:38.23Megalonhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0czhbZVVzVtxoVuqo 17-44 fury
19:38.24snurre!c eu dragonmaw capnaggro
19:38.26ThraeBotsnurre: Capnaggro, Level 60 Orc Warrior (10/41/0). 5039 HP; 6204 Armour; 1579 AP; 187.200 Melee DPS; 31.54% melee crit; 80 melee hit; 8.71% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 588 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24my8c ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2zwbsm ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 15:41:50 2007 EST ]]
19:39.21Megalonthe standard fury dps build looks like this, perhaps here and there some points moved around
19:39.38Megalonfor personal preferences
19:40.34RaydenUnihttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Nera%27thor&n=Krush <-- found this and was looking at it
19:40.40RaydenUnilooks 95% the same as the one you linked
19:40.57RaydenUniiron will instead of imp thunder clap
19:41.08NightHawkAtWorkHjalte: sure, but maybe no one's said anything yet so he does't think there's a problem? Maybe it's a smaller guild and that particular knowledge just isn't there? There's all sorts of reasons that don't implicitly say the guy's a raving moron.
19:42.12snurrehe doesnt have much experience, pretty easy to tell by the reputation
19:42.23snurrehang on
19:42.40snurrehow the hell did he get to 70 without even revered with a single city?
19:43.01MegalonRaydenUni: yea there are not many raid dps talents in the first arms tiers, you just pick something to get to deep wounds/impale
19:43.18NightHawkAtWorksnurre: er, it's not that hard really.
19:43.31NightHawkAtWorkIf you don't spend a lot of time instances, you cant really get there on quests alone
19:43.32*** join/#wowace Synneth (n=syn@87-194-97-125.bethere.co.uk)
19:43.40RaydenUniour guild is a bunch of friends
19:43.45RaydenUniwe're very casual
19:43.52snurreuhm, my warlock got to revered with all cities from only questing
19:43.56snurreat lvl50ish
19:43.57RaydenUniwe ran KZ for the 2nd time last night and a few of us hit 70 a couple weeks ago
19:44.33NightHawkAtWorksnurre: oh, wait, you mean city factions. for some reaosn i thought you meant outland factions. bah, nevermind
19:44.37snurre:p
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19:48.12RaydenUnia more general raiding question, what dps should i be looking at for a guild just starting KZ?
19:48.58NeoTron<PROTECTED>
19:48.59NeoTronbtw
19:49.08NeoTronmight want to see if the lock is interested in testing a felguard spec too
19:49.13NeoTronless gear dependant
19:49.19snurreeww
19:49.25RaydenUnihe's been running with a felguard for 5 mans
19:49.41RaydenUnihe decided to respec to be more raid friendly and ironically picked what he did
19:49.43RaydenUni:P
19:49.48snurreiirc my lock was doing about 850dps when we began heroics/kz
19:50.05RaydenUnidang
19:50.17snurremight be wrong, its a long time ago
19:50.19RaydenUniwe are doing 1900dps
19:50.24NeoTronhttp://wowhead.com/?talent=IV0oZbxczIizMespxx0z
19:50.28NeoTronsomething like that
19:50.34snurrein the raid?
19:50.36ulicRaydenUni: yea that's about what we hit
19:50.45RaydenUnihttp://raydenuni.com/wow/logs/wws-20071022-0205/
19:50.48RaydenUniAttument last night
19:51.01snurreyikes
19:51.15snurrethat warlock is afk half the fight then
19:51.25RaydenUniwe've already established that the warlock has a totally crap build
19:51.33snurreirrelevant
19:51.36RaydenUniwhich is why he's doing 300dps
19:51.46RaydenUni370
19:51.56snurredoing that low dps means he's slacking, no build can possibly do that little, even with only greens
19:52.04snurrei was doing more at 55
19:52.20RaydenUnihmm
19:52.34RaydenUnibefore he respecced and he was using his felguard he was doing more dps than me
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19:52.41RaydenUnii could just about catch him not including his pet
19:53.23RaydenUniwell i will give him the 3 builds you guys linked: the affliction one, the succubus one, and the felguard one
19:53.30RaydenUniwhat is the succubus one meant for?
19:53.39RaydenUnii've never played a warlock so i'm not real familiar with the differences
19:53.39NeoTronsnurre:  a dest spec (bad one at that) with pretty much no spell hit is given to be bad
19:54.10NeoTronsuccubus = sacrifice the succy for 15% more shadow dmg
19:54.40RaydenUniit really would be nice to go through every member's build :P
19:54.46RaydenUnii don't know some of the other guys as well
19:54.55RaydenUnithey might not appreciate me telling them their builds suck
19:55.03NeoTronbut desto is the most gear dependant of builds
19:55.05RaydenUnirogue was doing 400dps
19:55.21NeoTronthat might not be entirely out of whack for the ger level
19:55.29RaydenUni!c us destromath coreste
19:55.32ThraeBotRaydenUni: Coreste, Level 70 Undead Rogue (5/51/5). 7934 HP; 1286 AP; 292.100 Melee DPS; 26.22% melee crit; 168 melee hit; 24.71% dodge; 110 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1551 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2a9cyf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vgl56 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 15:58:56 2007 EST ]]
19:55.38ArrowmasterWTF
19:55.45Arrowmasterslap that rogue
19:56.01RaydenUnispriests supposedly dominate dps for heroics and 10 mans right? and then do less in 25 mans because of gear scaling?
19:56.18DustwhisperNot really
19:56.29NeoTrontailored gear makes sp/warlock tailors perform above their progression level until tier 5/tier 6
19:56.30RaydenUnii forget where i read that
19:56.32Dustwhisperour SP could never touch mages in kara
19:56.33RaydenUnimaybe shadowpriests.com
19:56.34Arrowmastertell that rogue to get a real spec
19:56.35Dustwhisperbut in SSC/TK they can
19:56.47RaydenUniyeah shadow's embrace helps a lot
19:56.58RaydenUnii think it's the only reason i can keep up with my guildmates
19:57.03NeoTronknowing nothing about rogues, 5/51/5 seems entirely out of whack
19:57.04RaydenUnii haven't been 70 nearly as long as they have
19:57.23Arrowmaster5/51/5 is a total fucking joke of a spec
19:57.31NeoTronfew classes ever should have that much in any tree
19:57.41NeoTrontypically only hybrid classes go very deep in one tree
19:57.43NeoTronlike druids
19:57.54Arrowmaster!c us burning legion benth
19:57.56ThraeBotArrowmaster: Benth, Level 70 Undead Rogue (19/42/0). 8794 HP; 1759 AP; 390.700 Melee DPS; 24.11% melee crit; 278 melee hit; 26.46% dodge; 24 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1207 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fs926 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3b4w75 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 16:01:20 2007 EST ]]
19:57.57RaydenUnispriests :P
19:58.04NeoTrontrue
19:58.05Arrowmastertheres a real combat spec
19:58.18Arrowmasteralthough he does weird things with his spec too
19:58.59cncfanaticslemme link u a sword spec
19:59.15snurrean unbuffed affliction lock with no equipment can do 200+dps with only 4 dots.. add 63 from immolate and  108 from drain life, 190 from sbolt or 239 from incinerate
20:00.02RaydenUni!c us destromath tombaraj
20:00.04ThraeBotRaydenUni: Tombaraj, Level 70 Troll Priest (23/38/0). 6551 HP; 9030 Mana; 298 mana regen; 151 mp5; 49 +spell dmg; 1437 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 57 resilience;[[ TBR: 673 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zocj6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2j2alr ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 16:03:28 2007 EST ]]
20:00.30cncfanaticshttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebovZGcA00VzxMGot is what I'd get personaly
20:00.37cncfanatics(when my rogue is 70 that is)
20:00.55*** join/#wowace aestil (n=holycall@cpe-72-129-96-142.socal.res.rr.com)
20:01.34RaydenUnii should just have you guys go over my whole guild :P
20:01.37Arrowmasterso anybody know why my armory is broken?
20:01.47Arrowmasterit hasnt updated my character since the 4th
20:01.56RaydenUnimage was doing 568dps, that's gotta be pretty decent
20:01.59RaydenUniclear your cache?
20:02.02NeoTronthat's ok
20:02.11NeoTronarcane spec has the benefit of not requiring much spell hit
20:02.14Arrowmaster!c us burning legion tokrim
20:02.16ThraeBotArrowmaster: Tokrim, Level 70 Orc Warlock (42/0/19). 8780 HP; 7465 Mana; 109 mana regen; 67 spell crit; 158 spell hit; 869 +spell dmg; 233 frost dmg (1102); 368 shadow dmg (1237); 4.24% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 935 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c9o3f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37je8e ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 16:05:40 2007 EST ]]
20:02.21Arrowmasterhmm ok
20:02.27NeoTronwhich is probably partially why he's doing as well relatively speaking
20:02.29snurre!c eu dragonmaw overnuker
20:02.31ThraeBotsnurre: Overnuker, Level 70 Orc Warlock (43/1/17). 9190 HP; 7510 Mana; 109 mana regen; 144 spell crit; 85 spell hit; 766 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (945); 230 shadow dmg (996); 4.24% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 1051 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuuprx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mmpes ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 16:05:55 2007 EST ]]
20:02.39RaydenUni!c us destromath zique
20:02.40RaydenUniour mage
20:02.41ThraeBotRaydenUni: Zique, Level 70 Troll Mage (56/5/0). 6353 HP; 9686 Mana; 168 mana regen; 50 mp5; 279 spell crit; 644 +spell dmg; 5.10% dodge;[[ TBR: 799 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cvqph ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ulcc4 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 16:06:05 2007 EST ]]
20:03.07RaydenUnilol
20:03.09RaydenUniLOL
20:03.11NeoTronnot sure but with a SP he might be able to use arcane blast for better dps
20:03.13RaydenUnii do 666 shadow damage
20:03.47Dustwhispergoing arcanespec in kara gear with shitty dmg
20:03.51Dustwhisperis meeh not a good idea
20:04.03NeoTronDustwhisper: well
20:04.11NeoTronif he goes fire he'd miss a lot
20:04.16NeoTronand dps would suffer significantly
20:04.31snurretbh going around using the "ive got a shit spec" is such a bullshit excuse for not doing damage.. if your spec isnt doing enough, that's your own damn fault for not speccing something more useful tbfh
20:04.42cncfanaticsehm, fire > arcane in non T5- T6 gear
20:04.54NeoTronnot with 0 spell hit rating
20:04.59aestilgood afternoon all.
20:05.05Dustwhispergetting 100 hit rating is done within the day
20:05.09Dustwhispereven 160 hitrating can be done in a day
20:05.13RaydenUnidoing what?
20:05.17kebinusansvn down?
20:05.19RaydenUnii have 29 hit right now
20:05.21RaydenUnii need more
20:05.26DustwhisperSpellfire, spellstrike, Ashyen's gift, scryer's blood gem
20:05.38NeoTrongood luck getting that in one day..
20:05.54Dustwhisperyes?
20:05.56RaydenUniyeah wtf?
20:06.00Dustwhispercrafting the gear takes like 10 minutes
20:06.01NeoTronbut yes, tailoring gear for mages/locks/SP's is a good way to significantly jump up the dps meters
20:06.01RaydenUniif you have several thousand gold already
20:06.09Dustwhisperand anyone doing kara should be exalted with both factions
20:06.11RaydenUnii already have shadow's embrace
20:06.15NeoTronDustwhisper: lol?
20:06.20NeoTronhardly
20:06.35RaydenUniso instead of running KZ weekly we should just grind rep?
20:06.37RaydenUniKZ seems more fun
20:06.39Dustwhisperehm no
20:06.42NeoTronyou have to farm quite a bit  to get exalted with scryer/aldor
20:06.44Dustwhispershouldve gotten that on way to 70
20:06.45Kritteryou do both.
20:06.48snurregetting exalted with scryers takes like 10 hours
20:06.56DustwhisperI just bought myself from honored->exalted scryer
20:06.57Dustwhispernp
20:07.16RaydenUnibuying exalted aldor and upping my tailoring to get shadow's embrace = no
20:07.17NeoTronand exalted CE takes a while as well
20:07.22NeoTronmind you it's a good goal to work agains
20:07.27RaydenUnii want exalted lower city
20:07.55aestilanyone have a way to figure out how often a priest uses PoM?  Is there a mod that will keep track it for personal use?
20:08.02RaydenUnii should do that quest someone linked earlier
20:08.05RaydenUniwith the ooze
20:08.09Arrowmasteranybody know where ThraeBot gets its updated date from?
20:08.19NeoTronyes that quest is essential
20:08.27NeoTron15 spell hit enchant to gloves is good too
20:08.32RaydenUnihttp://wowhead.com/?quest=10413
20:08.33NeoTronas is +8 spell hit rating gems
20:08.37DustwhisperNONONO
20:08.40Dustwhispernever take 8 hit over 4hit 5dmg
20:08.42Kritteraestil: recall used to/still does? frequency sort of stats, not sure how granular it will get for you.
20:08.44Dustwhisperas a mage
20:08.45Dustwhisperas rogue sure
20:08.50RaydenUnii'm a spriest
20:08.57NeoTronfor a lock, 8 hit is always (singificantly) better
20:09.04NeoTronheck 8 hit is better than the epic 12 spell dmg gem
20:09.11evl[Archimonde] Hand of Death [You] 999999 :/
20:09.18Arrowmasteri like the 4hit 5dmg gems personally
20:09.33RaydenUnithe gems i wanted before weren't in the game yet
20:09.35snurrehttp://nihilum.wazap.com/en/image/285/ lol, teh memories :p
20:09.35RaydenUnii think they are now
20:09.40NeoTronif you're not hit-maxed 8 hit is best bang for the buck
20:09.48Dustwhisper4+5 = 9, 8 hit = 8
20:09.49RaydenUnigreat dawnstone?
20:09.53Dustwhisperyou gain more from 4+5 than 8
20:10.04RaydenUnibut 1 point of hit is worth more than 1 point of dmg
20:10.08alextthats like adding apples and oranges
20:10.13alexthit and dmg are diff stats ;]
20:10.18snurreRaydenUni: depends on spec
20:10.25snurreand how much hit you already ahve
20:10.26RaydenUnii found an excel sheet that told me
20:10.27RaydenUnione moment
20:10.53Dustwhisperehm
20:10.55RaydenUnifor me: 1dmg = 0.39dps; 1crit = 0.04dps; 1hit = 0.53dps
20:10.57NeoTronDustwhisper:  so? 1 spell hit rating > 1 spell dmg
20:11.00Dustwhisperboth hit and dmg increases dps which is the ultimate goal
20:11.03RaydenUniaccording to this spreadsheet
20:11.10Dustwhisperand no, 1 hti rating is not > 1 spelldmg =D
20:11.12Dustwhisper*hit
20:11.16NeoTronDustwhisper:  yes, it is
20:11.19RaydenUnii have 29 hit right now
20:11.33NeoTronon my current lock spec 1 dmg = 0.64 DPS, 1 hit = 1 DPS
20:11.47NeoTronwith a destro lock spec 1 dmg = 0.88 dps and 1 hit = 1.12 dps
20:12.13snurrehttp://nihilum.wazap.com/en/image/286/ tihi
20:12.30Xinhuananyone using a german client here?
20:12.34Xinhuanfor wow
20:13.09Xinhuanand currently running wow
20:13.20RaydenUniso if i'm dropping +8 hit in my shadow's embrace yellow slot, what should go in my blu eone?
20:14.07RaydenUnii wish we knew what the spirit buffs are going to be
20:14.09NeoTrondepends on what the socket bonus is
20:14.17NeoTronand whether or not you need more stamina
20:14.48RaydenUnisocket bonus is +3 hit for each item
20:14.51RaydenUni3 piece set
20:15.00NeoTronas a shadow priest
20:15.03RaydenUniyes
20:15.04NeoTrondo you really need spell hit?
20:15.10snurreyeah
20:15.13NeoTrononly need 6% hit to max it out
20:15.13RaydenUnisupposedly until we get 79?
20:15.18aestilI used recount for the first time last night.  It seems to explode in dmg unbelievably fast in raid.
20:15.18NeoTronshould be easy to get w/o gems
20:15.19RaydenUnihttp://wowhead.com/?itemset=553
20:15.25aestilNeoTron: I have 14% + hit
20:15.33aestil!c us darkspear aestil
20:15.35ThraeBotaestil: Aestil, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (19/0/42). 8271 HP; 9060 Mana; 179 mana regen; 35 mp5; 108 spell crit; 172 spell hit; 998 +spell dmg/heal; 134 frost dmg (1132); 193 shadow dmg (1191); 80 fire dmg (1078); 4.82% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1262 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bstrt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mgyd8 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 22 16:18:59 2007 EST ]]
20:15.49NeoTronthe pure dmg gems aer worth the most for shadow priests
20:15.59RaydenUnii don't see many +hit items
20:16.01aestilNeoTron: i have very few +hit gems
20:16.04RaydenUnimaybe they are all dungeon drops
20:16.14NeoTrontaht trinket + the quest trinket
20:16.15NeoTron:)
20:16.16aestilwell, i'm wearing mostly T5 levelish gear.
20:16.29RaydenUniwhich NeoTron the ooze one?
20:16.39aestilI found that I kept getting +dmg upgrades, with items that had +hit on them as well.
20:16.48aestiland my hit sorta just climbed higher and higher.
20:16.50Ellipsisaestil zomg
20:17.02aestilso i spent less and less points in +hit talents
20:17.11Ellipsishow does that work
20:17.12aestilEllipsis: you don't love me, i had to set up baggins all by myself.
20:17.30Ellipsisfor me I usually have to go out of my way just to find +hit on gear, and it's usually a sidegrade at best
20:17.32aestilEllipsis: how does what work?
20:17.45Ellipsisand I do love you, you just weren't around every time I pinged you!
20:17.45aestillook at my armory above?
20:18.03aestili have like 170ish +hit rating.
20:18.04RaydenUniyou hit the hit cap from quests?
20:18.18aestilno RaydenUni , i'm wearing mostly T5ish gear.
20:18.27RaydenUnioh
20:18.30RaydenUniyeah this is pre KZ
20:18.32NeoTronRaydenUni: yes
20:18.34RaydenUnimy situation
20:18.34aestilclearly, i am not your frame of reference :) sorry.
20:18.36NeoTronand I hope you have the quest on
20:18.41Ellipsisaestil: I has 102 +hit now w00tles
20:18.45alextfor the most part unless you got great hit talents, you gota struggle for hit till you get in SSC
20:18.47RaydenUnithe quest on?
20:18.59aestilyou have talents that help your affliction spells right?
20:19.03Ellipsisyeah
20:19.05NeoTronhttp://wowhead.com/?item=25936
20:19.08aestilbut to hit cap your SB you need +202 or something?
20:19.13RaydenUniEllipsis so are you using less than 5 of your +hit talent?
20:19.13alext202 yes
20:19.17Ellipsisyep aestil
20:19.26aestilthats why locks love the mag trinket
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20:19.28Ellipsisatm I have an extra +6% hit on afflic from talents
20:19.29aestilits perfect for htem
20:19.44RaydenUniwoah NeoTron
20:19.48RaydenUnii don't think i've done that quest
20:19.57alextheh i am a lock and i dont like the mag trinket ;]
20:20.12RaydenUnii really hope i didn't do it before when i was retarded and not getting +hit stuff
20:20.14*** join/#wowace DarkImakuni (n=mju@87.102.124.214)
20:20.18alextits rewarding you for NOT capping hit
20:20.19NeoTronit's still a good trinket even when hit maxed
20:20.21alextblah @ that
20:20.23NeoTronbut it's sort of a stupid proc
20:20.27RaydenUnibut it's still better than my Vengeance of the Illidari
20:20.35alextyeah but then the item budget is spent on something that will rarely proc
20:20.40alextso its really a waste if your hit capped
20:20.40Ellipsisaestil, your gear is ridiculous next to mine :(
20:20.44snurrehttp://stage6.divx.com/user/snurre/video/1147265/Dr--Boom-DPS-test pewpew :p
20:20.50RaydenUnioh, no it's not
20:20.53aestili need that heroic OH
20:21.04RaydenUniit's not a proc though
20:21.07RaydenUniyou have to use it
20:21.09NeoTronhttp://wiki.shadowpriest.com/index.php?title=SimulationCraft/Trinkets/Warlock
20:21.14aestiland then I need to get exalted with aldor.
20:21.24aestiland those will be my only available upgrades til T6
20:21.27RaydenUniaestil for the mace?
20:21.29aestili'm passing all T5 gear.
20:21.35MoonWolfsomeone needs to raid dr boom and kill him
20:21.38NeoTronhttp://wiki.shadowpriest.com/index.php?title=SimulationCraft/Trinkets/Priest
20:21.44aestilRaydenUni: i have the S2 spell caster mace, and need the heroic badges OH
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20:22.20NeoTronMoonWolf: when affliction spec, I ocne killed dr boom solo from 100% without taking a break
20:22.36MoonWolftook pretty long i guess
20:22.38snurreNeoTron: check the vid i linked
20:22.44RaydenUniwhat the crap is a 0/11/50 spriest build?
20:22.54aestilso, recount, it generates so much extra memory because...?
20:22.59snurreMoonWolf: took about 7mins to kill drboom iirc
20:23.12aestila 5 man healing one?
20:23.17aestili dunno.
20:23.40aestilEllipsis: that blessings deck trinket is so rediculously good.
20:23.48aestili spent around 1450g on that trinket, and it was worth every penny
20:23.51CIA-1203bigzero * r52921 10AutoProfitX/ (7 files):
20:23.51CIA-12AutoProfitX: initial commit
20:23.51CIA-12- Adds a button on the merchant window to quickly sell all the junk items in your bags
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20:23.52RaydenUniNeoTron that's a nice list i guess, but doesn't tell me where they drop
20:24.01RaydenUnii don't really care about the Skull of Guldan cause i'll never see it :)
20:24.11NeoTronaestil: recount records a lot of data
20:24.21NeoTronRaydenUni: wowhead ftw?
20:24.26aestilits like in game wws.
20:24.27NeoTronat your level though
20:24.30dylanmDid Cryect quit or something?
20:24.31aestiltoo much memory though.
20:24.35NeoTronit's the spell hit trinkets and the heroic badge one
20:24.50RaydenUniyeah
20:24.52Ellipsisaestil: WTB your server, decks cost way too much on mine :/
20:24.55RaydenUniheroic badge one?
20:24.57aestilquestion about 1 person tracking dps, is kaels room longer than 200 yards from one end to the other.
20:25.08aestilEllipsis: i bought the cards seperetly over time.
20:25.24Ellipsisso what you're saying is it took you 1450g and several months
20:25.25Ellipsis:P
20:25.51Xinhuanaestil, probably not
20:25.58NeoTronRaydenUni: Orb of the Soul Eater
20:26.03NeoTronwait that's the offhand
20:26.04NeoTron:P
20:26.17NeoTronthe icon
20:26.25aestiloh, hey Xinhuan, still not interested in working on a fubar plugin for cartographer routes?
20:26.26NeoTronIcon of the Silver Crescent
20:26.37RaydenUniis that the one that drops off a guy in... i forget the ozne
20:26.40RaydenUnithe green plains one
20:26.41RaydenUnilol
20:26.44Xinhuani would make one if i'm free, but i'm not really free
20:26.48RaydenUnisold?
20:26.48aestilIcon of the silver crescent is stupidly good.
20:26.56RaydenUnioh
20:26.58snurreindeed
20:27.03Xinhuani haven't even updated my titan panel plugin for 1 of my other addons for 9 months now
20:27.09aestilyou understand the functionality i'm requestiong though?  to hide/show various routes in azone?
20:27.09RaydenUnioh i see
20:27.13snurreone of the "starting" items at 70 and one of the best in the entire game
20:27.14NeoTronDarkmoon Crusade is the best one though
20:27.14Xinhuani only updated the fubar one like 2 months ago
20:27.21NeoTronit's basically 80 spell dmg consistent
20:27.31RaydenUnido bosses drop one badge for every player when you run heroic?
20:27.39aestilRaydenUni: yes
20:27.46aestilheroic mech drops 5 [sex]
20:27.59snurrei had like 100 badges in bank when i quit :p
20:28.09snurrei think my friends have used them all for nethers by now
20:28.14aestilXinhuan: 3rd night of KT attempts last night.  our dps was 'bleh'
20:28.16NeoTronFetish of the Primal Gods however is not better for a shadow priest
20:28.22aestilonly 2 good looks at P4.
20:28.38NeoTronbetter for a lock (FG/dest at least, maybe not affliction)
20:28.40Xinhuanwe killed kael again yesterday, fairly easily.... but wiped all night on archimonde ~70% ish lol
20:28.44aestilbut we made some progress with respect to staff buff on KT tank in P4.
20:29.04aestilhow do you handle the MCd people?  they seem rediculously disruptive.
20:29.06Xinhuanfor that, all you need is a single person, usually a mage, to get to the MT on kael
20:29.09aestiland it seems to happen all the time.
20:29.22NeoTronwe had surprisingly many problems with staff buffs..
20:29.23Xinhuanthe purpose is to give him the staff buff, AND counterspell fireballs
20:29.29NeoTronaestil: sheep, fear, stun
20:29.33NeoTronhave hunters help remove MC
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20:29.42NeoTronwing clip is pretty optimal for it
20:29.44Xinhuanwell you need ppl to sheep / fear or stun them
20:29.45snurremmm.. dexter S02E04
20:29.52*** join/#wowace Codayus (i=chaoshaw@even.the.kittens.hate-you.net)
20:30.08Xinhuanand because you only need 2 tanks in p4/p5 (one for kael, one for phoenix)
20:30.10RaydenUnihttp://www.wowwiki.com/Seal_of_the_Exorcist <-- i need this as well
20:30.17aestilyeah, we started that last night, but didn't reallly get enough attempts to make it work.
20:30.20Xinhuanthe remaining tanks should be running around using daggers to dispel
20:30.24Xinhuanthe legendary dagger
20:30.27aestilyes.
20:30.35Xinhuanintervene, hit hit, etc
20:30.38aestilwe have a paladin on the phoenix anyways.
20:30.46Xinhuanya we use a pally too
20:30.48Dia[m]onDIm having issues with addon called "Prat"... It suppose to look like this: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7617/ --------- BUT it looks like this!!!! http://www.picfury.com/2s/WoWScrnShot_122207_225936-1.html
20:30.50Dia[m]onDAnyone?
20:30.58narapathriderhey all, would it be possible to add the enchanting cooldowns (nexus transformation, void sphere, prismatic sphere) to FuBar_tcgTradeskills? (and fixing the alchemy button and the issue that buttons won't work anymore for the rest of the session whenever you learn a new tradeskill "rank" like for example master blacksmith would be really awesome, too ;)
20:31.07NeoTronwhen we killed him we had 2 prot warriors and one pally
20:31.17NeoTronso we used the 2 hunters for MC together with the prot ot warrior
20:31.22RaydenUniDia[m]onD your second site tries to hit me with a virus
20:31.29Dia[m]onDWTF?!
20:31.32Dia[m]onDPicfury?
20:31.45RaydenUnii think so
20:31.48Dia[m]onDWhat virus?
20:31.52Dia[m]onDThen its on my comp 2
20:31.54RaydenUnii don't think it was curse.com
20:31.55durcynnarapathrider: submit a patch, i'll see what i can do
20:32.03Dia[m]onDwhats name of it?
20:32.11Dia[m]onDRaydenuni what anti-virus u use?
20:32.13Dia[m]onDI need to get one too
20:32.24RaydenUnion my laptop whatever my school gave me
20:32.26Xinhuanwhat browser do you use ;p
20:32.27Ellipsisnarapathrider: the alchemy button isn't fixable until Blizzard stops failing
20:32.34Dia[m]onDFirefox <---
20:32.34RaydenUnion my desktop i'm using AVG
20:32.37RaydenUniit's free
20:32.49RaydenUnii also have all javascript disabled so i'm not sure how it got through
20:32.51Dia[m]onDdunno it shouldn't give any freaking virus
20:32.52RaydenUnii forgot to check the name
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20:33.02Dia[m]onDit just gots pic of my wow
20:33.07Dia[m]onDand how its messed up with prat
20:33.14Kody-.
20:33.21Dia[m]onDI can upload it somewhere else
20:33.30Kody-Upload it to imageshack
20:33.32RaydenUniwhat did it mess up?
20:33.58Kody-There's basically no way in hell I'm clicking on a link that's "supposed" to be a screenshot but ends in .html
20:34.05Dia[m]onDw8
20:34.08Dia[m]onDI give u another link
20:34.14Dia[m]onDITS NOT A FUCKING VIRUS jeez
20:34.22Dia[m]onDhttp://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000331432500618959
20:34.26RaydenUniwhy not Kody- ?
20:34.29Dia[m]onDI uploaded it on another site
20:34.35Dia[m]onDhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7617/
20:34.36Kody-Because random IRC links are the devil :)
20:34.42Dia[m]onDdude..
20:34.51RaydenUnicertain file types can get you to
20:34.59RaydenUnii'd think html is safer than something like .jpg or .gif
20:35.05RaydenUnibut i don't worry about it
20:35.13Dia[m]onDim not trying to bullshit u.. Im having issues not freaking trying to give u a virus
20:35.13RaydenUniwhat is wrong with praty anyways?
20:35.17NightHawkAtWorkeh, html itself isn't dangerous, its what you can put IN html. :P
20:35.25Dia[m]onDcheck those links
20:35.31Dia[m]onDdo you see any differences?
20:35.33CIA-1203bigzero * r52922 10AutoProfitX/:
20:35.33CIA-12AutoProfitX:
20:35.33CIA-12- externals set
20:35.38Dia[m]onD;(
20:35.42Xinhuanthat's like saying an .exe isn't dangerous, its what you can put in the exe
20:36.00Ellipsisan .exe isn't dangerous
20:36.04Ellipsisif you're not running Windows
20:36.06Kody-checking
20:36.06Ellipsis=]
20:36.23Kody-Looks like Prat isn't enabled
20:36.26Dia[m]onDit is
20:36.37Dia[m]onDthats what the problem is
20:36.39RaydenUniDia[m]onD what difference am i supposed to be looking at exactly?
20:36.47RaydenUnii'm not even sure what prat changes exactly
20:36.50RaydenUnii just know it's nice :P
20:36.59Dia[m]onDMy prat ain't working.. I need to get it to look like in the other picture
20:37.08Trell_woah logged in on an alt I haven't played in a while, and my whole screen was yellow, couldn't see anything, even after rotating the camera
20:37.18Trell_moved and realised I was inside one of the pumpkins in SW
20:37.22RaydenUnilol
20:37.26Dia[m]onDAny idea how to fix it?
20:37.28snurreDia[m]onD: isn't that like saying that my car is broken because it's blue, not red like i want it? :p
20:37.31CIA-1203bashui * r52923 10CatPoints/ (5 files):
20:37.31CIA-12CatPoints:
20:37.31CIA-12- Refactored some code to make the plug-ins more general
20:37.31CIA-12- Added a bear for effective health plug-in
20:37.31CIA-12- Added an overridable function to control display of the point value
20:37.59Dia[m]onDsnurre duh... stop making fun of a serious issue ;D
20:37.59Kody-You're just going to have to play around with the settings Dia[m]onD
20:38.00RaydenUniwhat is prat not doing exactly?
20:38.07RaydenUnii can't tell from looking at it, what the difference is
20:38.16Dia[m]onDLook at my chat bar
20:38.21RaydenUniyes... and?
20:38.24Dia[m]onDit's totally different
20:38.28snurredoesnt mean it's broken
20:38.29NeoTronTrell_: that's golden
20:38.39snurresettings ftw
20:38.41Dia[m]onDI installed prat and nothing changed. only few font colours
20:38.41RaydenUnioh how it has the buttons?
20:38.52Dia[m]onDhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7617/
20:38.52Dia[m]onDdude
20:38.54Dia[m]onDcheck that pic
20:39.00RaydenUnithe text looks the same to me
20:39.01Dia[m]onDit has black WIDE chat bar
20:39.10RaydenUniyou are being as unspecific as you can about what it's not doing
20:39.12Dia[m]onDmy pic has default chat bar
20:39.14Kody-That screenshot is suggesting what you can do with it, not what it'll look like installed out of the box
20:39.15NightHawkAtWorkTrell_: win.
20:39.20RaydenUniblack is just a setting
20:39.27RaydenUnihow wide it is is just how you drag it
20:39.46RaydenUnisee, now you are being specific and we can help :P
20:39.46Dia[m]onDOk.. how im able to do that?
20:39.50Dia[m]onD=)
20:39.54RaydenUniyou have to make sure it's not locked
20:39.59RaydenUnithen just click and drag on the edges
20:40.00Dia[m]onDok sec
20:40.06RaydenUnii dunno how you change the opacity
20:40.11RaydenUnii'm sure it's under the menu though
20:40.39HjalteWhere can i see info on who owns a .com domain?
20:40.45Dia[m]onDdude..
20:40.55Dia[m]onDshouldn't it look like this by default http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7617/ when I install prat?
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20:40.58EllipsisHjalte: www.dnsstuff.com WHOIS lookup
20:41.12RaydenUnii dunno
20:41.16RaydenUnii haven' installed prat in a long time
20:41.20Dia[m]onDcheck one of the pics
20:41.22RaydenUnireinstall it
20:41.24Dia[m]onDand look at the chat bar
20:42.32RaydenUnihttp://onefile.raydenuni.com prat on my machine
20:43.46Dia[m]onDOk
20:43.54Dia[m]onDI uninstalled it and still nothing changed... ;S
20:44.02Dia[m]onDpls any good ideas? =(
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20:44.13sbFunkeh`? :)
20:44.21RaydenUnidid you look at the settings?
20:44.25RaydenUniyou are sure prat is enabled?
20:44.33RaydenUniyou can access the menu?
20:45.28Funkeh`sb, ?
20:45.43Dia[m]onDhttp://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000539658585896771
20:45.46Dia[m]onD...
20:46.15sbFunkeh`: some suggestions for kaelthas module (bw)
20:47.05Dia[m]onDRaydenUni :(
20:47.28sbFunkeh`: toy on tank warning should be depending on spec for druids also (not only pallys) - no bar for cat druids because they have no rage bar - and: there is no gaze cooldown timer in phase 3 - possible to add?
20:47.31Dia[m]onDWhat resolution do u use?
20:47.41RaydenUni1680-1050
20:48.20durcynsb: boss modules inspecting talents?  no thanks
20:48.22RaydenUniwell instead of doing homework like a good grad student, i talked about wow all afternoon
20:48.24RaydenUnithanks guys
20:48.38sberr its not talents?
20:48.43sbokay then its RF
20:48.48Dia[m]onDRaydenUni any ideas what to do with this?
20:49.04Dia[m]onDgonna grab a smoke..
20:49.04RaydenUnino
20:49.08RaydenUnilook at the settings :/
20:49.08AntiarcJust have the mod look for bear druids and paladins with RF up.
20:49.15Trell_RaydenUni; happens to me all the time.  Swap homework for actual work, and thats my day.
20:49.35Trell_leading to me staying up till all hours of the morning finishing off work for clients
20:49.56RaydenUniyeah, i hadn't even played wow for probably 3-4 weeks until last night due to my homework
20:50.02RaydenUniso talking about wow is really a huge waste of time
20:50.13harldephinPitBull still pretends that i'm AFK, when i log back in after being logged out automatically while AFK, so i've got to go AFK and then back again to have PitBull remove it's AFK.. flag, or whatever. anyone aware of that?
20:50.40sbdur: ah okay - its buffcheck for pallys
20:50.43Trell_I always log on with the intention of just getting one more level, or completing a couple of quests, then before I know whats happening, im in the LFG channel and on my way to one of the long ass instances like ST or Mara
20:50.44sbdurcyn even
20:51.21RaydenUniinteresting note, i can't find the pitbull fubar icon anywhere :P
20:51.49alextharldephin: yup happens to me
20:51.54alextRaydenUni: yup i got the same issue
20:51.57alexti just do /pitbull
20:52.17harldephinmy pitbull fubar icon shows fine
20:52.20RaydenUniit used to show up
20:52.24RaydenUnibut not anymore
20:52.29RaydenUnii can't even find where to toggle it
20:52.30alextrayden i got the same issue
20:52.34alextever since it went to rock it hasnt shown to me
20:52.43RaydenUnialso, last night i found the width of my raid bars, but then later i couldn't found it
20:52.46RaydenUnifind*
20:52.46alextits not in fubar's options anywhere to show it and its not turned off in pitbull
20:52.48alext<PROTECTED>
20:52.51alextnot a big deal for me tho
20:52.52RaydenUniit disappeared completely
20:52.57RaydenUnirock?
20:53.12RaydenUniit would bug me a lot if i needed to set up pitbull
20:53.45alextRaydenUni: cknight changed pitbull to use librock instead of ace
20:53.51RaydenUniwhy?
20:53.54alext<PROTECTED>
20:54.00alextthats a HUGE discussion topic there
20:54.21alextnot sure exactly but the wowace.com forums give a lot of info
20:55.37Funkeh`sb, it only warns for druids with rage bars
20:55.45Funkeh`sb, I'm not doing talent scanning
20:55.45sbi know
20:55.55sbyah got that
20:55.57harldephinpitbull still utilises ace
20:56.00sbits RF buff check
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20:56.15Funkeh`yeah
20:56.24Funkeh`warns for hunters warriors druids and paladins
20:56.54harldephinbut, i guess my pitbull icon's gone boo! within one of my last 2 updates as well.. i just checked, but it's been there 2 days ago
20:57.02NeoTronso do people really actaully try to "tank' the bow with a hunter?
20:57.15NeoTronseems entirely pointless to do - we just dps it down with no concern on who's tanking it
20:57.18RaydenUniwha?
20:57.30nevcairielwe just have one hunter aggro it
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20:57.35nevcairieland he manages to keep the aggro
20:58.12Funkeh`sb, can add in p3 sure
20:58.27Funkeh`you sure its not in p3? O_o
20:58.36Dia[m]onDjeez... where I can get help for prat if not here :S
20:59.05ZealotOnAStickwe have a hunter pick it up and mainly just make sure it's facing away from the raid.
20:59.12Funkeh`sb, infact it should be working in p3...
20:59.17ZealotOnAStickbecause it's annoying if it's constantly multi-shotting the dps.
20:59.28XelopherisLurker?
20:59.31sbhmm okay nvm then - it works ;p
20:59.41sbbut toy on feral would be nice ;p
20:59.50sbnot only in bear
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21:03.21Funkeh`sb, why...
21:04.08sbbecause p1 cat could be p2 tank :o
21:05.20ccKepyay @ fcking blizz
21:05.35ccKepbest illidan phase2 try until now, first flame at 4% -> server shutdown
21:06.03ccKep(4% with everyone alive I mean)
21:06.23durcyneh, it's phase 4 that'll wreck you anyway
21:06.31durcynstupid flame burst
21:06.45ccKepwell, that was fine until now
21:06.54ccKepgot there with 15 people a few times
21:07.08ccKepphase2 + demons need practice
21:07.58ccKephttp://wowwebstats.com/gl4evxnvytmbi progress ftl -.-
21:08.26Xinhuando you have any suggestiosn for killing archimonde? a lot of us are getting doomfired, but decursing/healing is fine
21:08.56ccKepget the fuck out of doomfire range when fear is incoming, thats all to it
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21:09.11Xinhuanhow do you spread out
21:09.12Dia[m]onDAny prat users could tell what their folder name is in addons folder?
21:09.13Xinhuanwhat formation?
21:09.18Dia[m]onDprat? or prat1 or prat2?
21:09.29durcynXinhuan: we use N, SW, SE with two decursers in each
21:09.29ccKepwe have 4 "camps" around archi (well, not really camps)
21:09.37durcynXinhuan: mostly you have to get the fuck away when fear is up
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21:09.57Xinhuanok i'm currently trying the "4 camp" method in the 4 compass directions
21:10.02Xinhuanthe current issue seems to be that
21:10.10rjaymwhere can I get documentation on the periodic table that Sanity uses for bag filters
21:10.10durcynsouth is gonna get screwed, i'd split off SE/SW
21:10.16Xinhuansuppose the doomfire spawns and starts following the "south" camp
21:10.19Xinhuanthey back off
21:10.20Eggixinhuan: the most important thing is that your melees have a totem and that your casters run away 5 sek before the fear timer runs out
21:10.36Xinhuanthe doomfire follows a while, then decides to turn around and head towards the west group
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21:10.49Xinhuanso it actually manages to go around and circle behind the west group
21:10.58Xinhuanso when a doomfire actually occurs in the wset, that group is trapped
21:11.05Xinhuanis that supposed to happen?
21:11.05durcynwest group needs to shift then
21:11.06XinhuanT_T
21:11.23Eggirun away when you see that the fire comes to you...
21:11.27durcynwhy would you stay in your position if it's ON FIRE
21:11.34Xinhuanit isn't on fire
21:11.40rjaymdoes anyone know how to do a bag filter for keys in Sanity
21:11.40Xinhuanthe doomfire went BEHIND the group
21:11.46Eggiand also purification pots help a lot to avoid the curse when there is no decurser available
21:11.58durcynthen you better have a damn good shaman in their party.
21:11.58Xinhuanand "circled" that group so they can't retreat backwards
21:12.00Xinhuanonly forwards
21:12.04Xinhuantowards archi
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21:12.09durcynnever go toward archimonde
21:12.16Dia[m]onDPLS SOMEONE HELP ME WITH "PRAT"
21:12.18durcyn15 yards around him is the doomfire-spawn circle of death
21:12.26Xinhuanthat's the weird part, why would the doomfire go behind the westgroup though?
21:12.29Xinhuannobody stood there
21:12.29Eggidon't let it come to such an situation... react as soon as you see the fire coming and not when is to late
21:12.29stavmar_i am about to attend a lecture at UT Austin with Michael Morhaim it is a class on video games and digital media
21:12.40RaydenUnidiamond do you have other mods that affect chat?
21:12.42RaydenUniif so disable those and see what happens
21:12.43Eggiits random
21:12.43durcynXinhuan: it's usually random, though it can track players
21:13.09Dia[m]onDRaydenUni I tried with prat only and nothing happened
21:13.12Xinhuanits just so random :(
21:13.16Dia[m]onDAm I missing something?
21:13.18Xinhuananyway, 72% for a first night
21:13.21Xinhuanis that normal? heh
21:13.24balstorWOOOT 3rd Castlevania comming to the DS !!!!
21:13.30Eggiplay safe... that was the thing that brought us the kill
21:13.43Eggidon't try to take it as a dps race
21:13.44RaydenUniis the rumor on 2.3 still about a month?
21:13.47XelopherisXin: it depends on how the wipe occurs :P
21:14.01Xinhuanthe wipe usually occurs because someone dies to a doomfire ;p
21:14.15Xinhuandecursing and airburst doesn't seem to be an issue actually
21:15.11durcynit's one big IQ check
21:15.17durcyn"can you run away from a colossal fire"
21:15.18Eggieveryone should have fire prot pots and also purification pots... and healers should equip the pvp trinket (2 min version)
21:15.25durcynwhen you see the fear timer hit 5 seconds, get the fuck out
21:15.29kadrahildurcyn: like "can you run away from an arcane orb"?
21:15.46durcynkadrahil: yes, but even more obvious this time
21:15.54kadrahildurcyn: haha
21:16.08durcynand you even get to practice for it with supremus
21:16.18Eggiand ranged dps should NEVER get the fire debuff
21:16.20XelopherisI remember when my guild was like "omg let's go to loot reaver because we can down gruul in 14 growths!"
21:16.30Xelopherisand it was all the warlocks that were saying that
21:16.34kadrahilXelopheris: ...
21:16.42XelopherisAnd I have WWS reports showing them dying to orbs on every attempt
21:17.03Xelopherisyes kad?
21:17.11kadrahilno, i was laughing at your warlocks
21:17.54Eggidoesn't that mean that your dps (warlocks) is very bad if gruul grows 14 times :p
21:18.11Xelopheriswhen we first downed him it was 14
21:18.18Xelopherisbest attempt was just hitting the 8th
21:18.26Xelopherisbest kill, rather
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21:21.11Xinhuani heard there's an exploit with vashj
21:21.24Xinhuanif you alt-f4 with a tainted core, you keep it when you relog
21:21.37Xinhuanso if you have 3 of these entering phase 2 on the next attempt
21:21.49Xinhuanand kill a tainted, you go straight to p3
21:21.51Xinhuanlol
21:21.55XelopherisYou'd have to be a hunter, wouldn't you?
21:22.05XelopherisBecause you have to be out of combat for your character to exit the game world
21:22.13Dia[m]onDjeez.. ain't there any pro's that can help me with addons?
21:22.18Xinhuannah, you exit the game world after about 20 seconds
21:22.21Xinhuanafter alt-f4ing
21:23.24Dia[m]onDSylvanaar, Fin
21:23.39OrionshockDia[m]onD: wow that [] in the middle dosn't like tabl complete
21:23.52Orionshocknnl, we cannot help you unless you help us
21:24.04Dia[m]onD??
21:24.09Orionshockthow up an error message on pastey
21:24.12Dia[m]onDHow should I help you first?
21:24.18Dia[m]onDIm not getting any...
21:24.35Dia[m]onDhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7617/
21:24.43Dia[m]onDcheck one of the pics with chat bar
21:24.49CIA-1203ackis * r52924 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
21:24.49CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
21:24.49CIA-12- Fix for Runic Plate Leggings
21:24.54Orionshockthen the likely problem is that either it's desabled by default and you need to clear your sv file or your missing dependancys
21:24.56Dia[m]onDhttp://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000539658585896771
21:24.59Dia[m]onDthis is what im having
21:25.30Dia[m]onD"sv file"?
21:25.39Dia[m]onD"dependancys"?
21:26.57Dia[m]onDIm having default chat bar...
21:27.09Dia[m]onDeven with prat installed
21:27.10XinhuanDia[m]onD: try asking for help in #wowi-lounge channel
21:27.12Dia[m]onDthats the prob
21:27.17Dia[m]onDthx ill try
21:27.49OrionshockDia[m]onD: /print Prat.author
21:28.16Xelopherisgrrr, eagle trash needs a slight nerf ><
21:28.45XelopherisJust remove 2 eagles and make the other 2 twice the HP, I don't care. Controlling 8  mobs is retarded, even with 2 tanks
21:28.57Dia[m]onDOrionshock I got some kind of error msg
21:29.00Xinhuanpallyaoe tank ^^
21:29.08Orionshock" /print Prat.author "
21:29.11Orionshockno quotes
21:29.16Dia[m]onDye did it
21:29.28Orionshock^.^
21:29.44XelopherisXin: all the PTR pallies went Ret
21:30.00Dia[m]onDDate: 2007-12-23 00:29:05
21:30.02Dia[m]onDID: 22
21:30.04Dia[m]onDError occured in: Global
21:30.06Dia[m]onDCount: 1
21:30.06Dia[m]onDjust few lines
21:30.08Dia[m]onDMessage: [string "AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral(p..."] line 1:
21:30.09Xelopherisand no prot paladins on my guild to start off with (well, there's one, but we never take her to real instances because she can't fucking play ><)
21:30.10OrionshockDia stop
21:30.10Dia[m]onDattempt to index global 'prat' (a nil value)
21:30.12Dia[m]onDDebug:
21:30.13OrionshockDia stop
21:30.14Dia[m]onD[C]: ?
21:30.14Dia[m]onDye
21:30.16Dia[m]onD[string "AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral(p..."]:1: f()
21:30.18Dia[m]onD...erface\AddOns\Ace2\AceConsole-2.0\AceConsole-2.0.lua:2664: value()
21:30.19OrionshockDia stop
21:30.20Dia[m]onDwtf
21:30.20Dia[m]onD..\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3017:
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21:30.22Dia[m]onD..\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2942
21:30.24Dia[m]onDits pasting all
21:30.26Dia[m]onD[C]: ?
21:30.28Dia[m]onDfack
21:30.29Orionshock| http://ace.pastey.net
21:30.30Dia[m]onD[C]: ChatEdit_ParseText()
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21:30.41Xelopherislol
21:30.53Xinhuanclearly, he spelled "Prat" as "prat"
21:30.54Orionshock" /print Prat.author " -- caps
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21:30.58Dia[m]onDAtlasFlightPaths, v1.10.2
21:30.59Orionshockvery important
21:31.02Dia[m]onDAtlasOutdoorRaids, v1.10.2
21:31.04Dia[m]onDAtlasLoot, vAtlasLoot Enhanced v4.01.05
21:31.06Dia[m]onDAtlasLootBCInstances, v4.01.04
21:31.08Dia[m]onDAtlasLootOldInstances, v4.01.04
21:31.09durcynstop. now.
21:31.12Dia[m]onDAtlasLootRepFactions, v4.01.04
21:31.14Dia[m]onDAtlasLootSetsandPvP, v4.01.04
21:31.16Dia[m]onDwtf still
21:31.17OrionshockDia might i sugest /exit
21:31.20Dia[m]onDAtlasLootWorldLoot, v4.01.04
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21:31.55Xinhuani wish someone would kill the author who made the addon that gives a list of every damn loaded addon on every error
21:31.58Xinhuanits almost useless
21:32.12OrionshockSwatter by Auctioneer
21:32.31Xinhuanswatter isn't a dependency of any addon in the Auctioneer package
21:32.36Xinhuanand shouldn't even be in it
21:32.39Orionshockactualy ... yes
21:32.48Orionshocktry loading up w/o it one day
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21:33.01Xinhuani can use auctioneer fine without swatter, Orionshock
21:33.06Dia[m]onDwhat the hell
21:33.10Dia[m]onDI just copied 1 freaking line
21:33.12Dia[m]onDand pasted all
21:33.16Dia[m]onDsry ... S;
21:33.18ulicI run auctioneer & enchantrix without Swatter installed
21:33.18Xinhuanonly Enhtooltip and Stubby are dependencies
21:33.24Xinhuannot swatter
21:33.30Orionshockallways shits a brick on me
21:33.33Xinhuanincluding swatter is pretty bad
21:33.44Xinhuanbecause it isn't a dependency at all, completely
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21:33.52Dia[m]onDOrionshock u still here?
21:33.53OrionshockDia Prat > modules > Button > show arrows <>
21:34.02Xinhuanyou can run informant, auctioneer and enchantrix without swatter
21:34.19Xinhuanif you're getting errors, then perhaps you shoudl look into it
21:34.30Dia[m]onDOrionshock ???
21:34.32Xinhuanfor a bug catching addon, why would any addon be dependant on swatter?
21:34.32Ellipsissign
21:34.33OrionshockXinhuan: he was't getting load up arrows
21:34.34Ellipsissigh*
21:34.34Dia[m]onDok did that
21:34.47Ellipsisshortest SL run ever...power went out when we hit the first boss :|
21:34.50Orionshock<PROTECTED>
21:35.24Ellipsisthe funny part is, when I got back online and apologized to the leader, he's like "wait...you in cali too?"
21:35.26XelopherisEllipsis: It's a sign. Don't run SL
21:35.31Orionshockgod change your nic Dia[m]onD  it dosn't tab complete easiily, makes me not want to talk to you
21:35.34EllipsisI was like o.O and he says "our hunter got kicked too"
21:35.50XinhuanOrionshock, your irc client sucks ;p
21:35.56Timangibetter?
21:35.56Xinhuanmine tabs completes easily :)
21:36.11XelopherisIt's because of Diao, Orionshock
21:36.13Timangisry bout that
21:36.18Xelopherisprobably, anyways
21:36.38Xelopherislol chatzilla
21:37.01Xinhuananyway Timangi, Orionshock wanted you to type "/print Prat.author" and not "/print prat.author"
21:37.16OrionshockXinhuan: that's just to make sure it was installed properly
21:37.36OrionshockTimangi:  hit the fubar icon - navigate the menus to that point and uncheck them all
21:37.39Orionshock>.-
21:37.45TimangiOrionshock I don't use fubar
21:37.46Orionshocklrn2navigateFubarMenus
21:37.48TimangiI use titanspanel
21:37.53Xelopheristhen it's on your minimap
21:37.53Orionshockok MM icon
21:38.07OrionshockTP suck
21:38.14OrionshockTiantPannel sucksorz
21:38.21Timangidone
21:38.23Timangiaight
21:38.30Orionshocksill have buttons?
21:38.33Timangii'll switch to fubar later
21:38.47Orionshockshould have 1 left
21:38.48Timangiyep
21:38.57Timanginothing changed
21:39.12Orionshockwanting to get rid of all the buttons?
21:40.27Timangi=(
21:40.27Orionshockgo back and un check "show chat menu"
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21:40.35TimangiI think u didn't get my point :)
21:40.37Timangihttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7617/
21:40.42Timangiif u check one of those pics
21:40.46Timangiwith chat bar
21:40.50Timangiits wide and black
21:40.55Timangidoesn't look default at all
21:41.08Timangihttp://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000539658585896771
21:41.19Timangiwhen you look at mine you see its same sa default with prat installed
21:41.24Timangias*
21:41.58Timangiget my point?
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21:43.56TimangiOrionshock?
21:44.15IndustrialHow do i cinfig Avion?
21:44.16Orionshocki get your point but i have to leave
21:44.18Industrialconfig*
21:44.18Orionshockttyl
21:44.42Diaochat bar?
21:45.08Diaoyou mean the texture behind the chat frame?
21:46.20EllipsisIndustrial: giev sexual favors and I'll tell you? :x
21:46.41XelopherisWith LibDogTag, to set my prat font color based on a unit health percentage, what do I put? [~Status?FractionalHP:Short] | [Status:PercentHP:Percent:_______]
21:47.06Xelopherisor is it possible?
21:47.19Diaoprat font color? o_o
21:47.32Diaodidn't know prat used dogtags
21:47.42Ellipsisit doesn't
21:47.55Xelopheriserm, pitbull, sorry
21:48.06Xelopheristrying to configure too many things at once :P
21:48.13Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_102207_144659.jpg <-- wtf
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21:48.51Xelopherisk k, thanks Diao
21:49.17XelopherisAntiarc, wtfO_o
21:49.40Diaoif you want specific colors you'll have to do like multiple tags with IsLess():Color(rrggbb) though
21:49.40GrumDoes anyone know and mob-kill-counter? (to see how much you killed for a certain drop?)
21:49.49Diaolol
21:49.51stavmarAntiarc: that is funny
21:50.04Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_102207_144939.jpg
21:50.22AntiarcWeirdest bug ever.
21:50.32stavmarlol
21:50.42Diaolol
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21:50.50DiaoGrum only one i know of is mobinfo2
21:50.53Diaobut that is memory rape :(
21:51.34stavmardo you guys know who Warren Specter is, a game developer
21:51.36Xelopherisso if I battle res someone with that, and have two Brutal Earthstorm Diamonds in it
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21:51.44Xelopherisdo they get 400 haste passive?
21:51.49Antiarcwtb
21:52.39Diaolol
21:53.51CIA-1203bigzero * r52925 10GlowFoSho/enchants.lua:
21:53.51CIA-12GlowFoSho:
21:53.51CIA-12- Executioner enchant added
21:53.57Xelopheriswow. I just got offered to tank UB. While I'm in SSC
21:54.02Xelopheris"but you're right here"
21:54.09NivFreakhaha
21:54.11Xelopherisnon-heroic too, the guy was only 62
21:54.18Ackismake sure you let your raid know you have to go do UB
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21:55.28NimbleRabitWhat is the ACP addons set "load" supposed to do?
21:55.34NimbleRabitwhen I click it it outputs that it was loaded to my chat log
21:55.36NimbleRabitbut nothing changes
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22:00.52MrAvarenHey - new to the addon coding thing, wondered if anyone could help me work out why my addon won't function the way it should - http://ace.pastey.net/75678
22:04.12NimbleRabitwhat is tabletlib used in?
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22:05.06XelopherisIt feels like I've used up all my good fonts on old UIs. Have about 40 sitting in my SharedMedia directory I don't use
22:09.17AntiarcSo
22:09.22AntiarcI want to see if the seed actually is socketable
22:09.30AntiarcBut I'm having a hard time convincing myself to spend 100g on a meta.
22:09.36AntiarcAnd I don't have any spirit shards on this character.
22:09.40Ellipsislol?
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22:09.56Xinhuanseed?
22:10.02Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_102207_144939.jpg
22:10.28Xinhuanerr is that on live realms?
22:10.32AntiarcYes
22:10.37Xinhuanwhat itemID
22:10.37AntiarcI just took that screenshot a few minutes ago
22:10.48Antiarc17035 I think?
22:10.59AntiarcI'm wondering if I have corruption in my cache or something
22:11.05AntiarcBecause guildmates say it isn't socketable for them
22:11.08AntiarcBut man, lawls.
22:11.30nevcairielI would've said known tooltip bug with the sockets, but since you can open the socketing UI
22:11.34Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_102207_144659.jpg
22:11.34nevcairielcorruption, imho
22:11.38Xinhuanhmm
22:11.45Xinhuani think you have a corrupted cache Antiarc
22:11.51Xinhuanmy link for it doesn't have sockets
22:11.53AntiarcWell, and any vendor that sells that seed shows it as such
22:11.59AntiarcSo it's not a one-time deal
22:12.04AntiarcAnd I don't run any mods on this character
22:12.06AntiarcSooooo yeah.
22:12.07AntiarcI dunno.
22:12.20Xinhuantry this, delete itemcache.wdb in your cache folder (or rename it up)
22:12.25Xinhuanthen relogin and see that item again
22:12.33AntiarcI kinda don't want to because this bug is awesome.
22:12.35Xinhuanyou can exit wow and restore that itemcache.wdb later ;p
22:12.46AntiarcHm
22:12.50AntiarcLet's see if my rogue sees it that way
22:12.53AntiarcShe has spirit shards
22:13.03Antiarc..........
22:13.05Xinhuanhe should since the local cache is global
22:13.09Antiarc"You cannot mail conjured items"
22:13.12Antiarc.......
22:13.24XinhuanHAHAHA you sure have a corrupted itemcache
22:14.15Ellipsissrsly
22:14.47AntiarcYup, rogue sees it that way too
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22:14.49AntiarcOff to Terrokar!
22:15.17Xinhuanbet the server will just tell you "you can't put sockets in that"
22:15.20Xinhuanor it might crash
22:15.38AntiarcI'll bet so too but it's worth a few shards to find out.
22:18.10Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_102207_151803.jpg
22:18.14Xelopherishrm, there's no way to create a blank space between a pitbull frame and pitbull auras without hard editing the file, is there?
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22:18.31XelopherisNice antiarc
22:18.34Xelopherisnow you need the socket bonus
22:19.03NightHawkAtWorko_0
22:19.10NightHawkAtWorkAntiarc: I think you just won the wow internets.
22:19.24HjalteAntiarc: It doesnt actually do anything.. Right?
22:19.35AntiarcNo, pressing the socket button doesn't socket it, sadly
22:19.40AntiarcBut man, I so wish
22:19.44NightHawkAtWorkshame
22:19.46AntiarcI would carry an entire bag of socketed seeds
22:19.55AntiarcI would be the most awesome rogue in town.
22:20.40NightHawkAtWorkdruids would hate you. "oh man, i just ran out of reagents, you've got a bunch, can i get one?" "fuck you! that's 48 ap!"
22:20.58Antiarc"Sure, only 200g!"
22:21.10AntiarcI would stack all haste and +crit damage gems
22:21.23AntiarcAnd have permahaste and +10000% on crits
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22:23.39Trell_anyone know anything about Yata?
22:23.58Trell_i wondered if theres a command to reset the totemtimer position
22:24.02Trell_it appears to have gone ><
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22:26.01AntiarcSo, I'm thinking that for my bug forums post, I'm going to title the threat "Reagent socket bonus not applying properly"
22:26.09AntiarcEither that or "Rogues need a reagent equip slot"
22:26.56HjalteThe first one is better methinks
22:27.00Ellipsislulz
22:28.44tinyboomlol, wow doesn't like ace2 when I try to mount on the broom :p
22:29.14Antiarchttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518016628&postId=24690038604&sid=1#0
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22:40.33leech2kwhat is that seed?
22:40.59leech2kbug eh?
22:41.36AntiarcApparently.
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22:50.20Xinhuanhahah
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22:50.53Xinhuandoes that seed really cost 30 av tokens
22:51.03Xinhuanwhen you "bought it"
22:52.05AntiarcNo, just 4s.
22:53.29balstoranybody play catelvania dawn of sorrow on the DS????
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23:11.05CIA-1203oridan * r52926 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.toc options.lua):
23:11.05CIA-12SpellReminder:
23:11.05CIA-12- oops, adding the new file makes sense!
23:14.55leech2kWhat does SpellReminder do?
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23:17.40CIA-1203xinhuan * r52927 10/branches/WoWEquip/ (4 files):
23:17.40CIA-12WoWEquip: - Splitting up the data and localization - Part 6.
23:17.40CIA-12- Also fix invalid link error occurring on line 3297 in hooked function DressUpItemLink().
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23:23.16CIA-1203sayclub * r52928 10LibRockDB-1.0/LibRockDB-1.0.lua:
23:23.16CIA-12LibRockDB-1.0 :
23:23.16CIA-12<PROTECTED>
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23:26.31ZealotOnAStickanyone know of any recent changes, either in the Ace2 or Rock frameworks/libs or Blizzard's interface code that prevents/interferes with multi-line chat macros or addons which send multiple lines of messages in rapid sequence?
23:26.54Xinhuani believe it is a serverside or client side thing
23:27.03Xinhuani.e a change in wow.exe
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23:27.11Xinhuanrather than any addon or framexml code
23:27.15ZealotOnAStickanyone know the reason for it?
23:27.25Xinhuanat the moment, it seems like you can only spam multiline stuff into /say and /raid
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23:27.47Xinhuanperhaps its to stop spam
23:27.57Xinhuanyou can't even use a multiline macro on /2 anymore
23:28.01Xinhuanlike 2 lines
23:28.19ZealotOnAStickI know, that's our biggest bitch.  WEll, not Trade channel, but a custom guild healers channel.
23:28.26ZealotOnAStickno multi-line healing assigment macros.
23:28.41Xinhuanonly works on /raid /say /party now for multiline
23:28.43ZealotOnAStickalso, doesn't let NRT use its 3 line deal for attendance announcements.
23:28.44Xinhuanas far as i can tell
23:28.47Xinhuannothing else is spammable
23:28.59Xinhuanwell /rw works
23:29.01Xinhuanbut you get the idea
23:29.15Xinhuancheck ui forums imo
23:29.19Xinhuanand see if others complain
23:29.54Xinhuancos i find i can't spam Expiration or damage meter stats
23:30.39Xinhuanor ascii art
23:31.19starlonThat's live?
23:31.26Xinhuanyes
23:31.27Xinhuanlive
23:31.32starlonbummer
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23:33.50CIA-1203nogudnik * r52929 10Skillet/UI/Sorting.lua:
23:33.50CIA-12Skillet:
23:33.50CIA-12- Added more checks when sorting recipes.
23:37.07CIA-1203toadkiller * r52930 10AutoBar/ (17 files): (log message trimmed)
23:37.07CIA-12AutoBar:
23:37.07CIA-12-- 2.02.03.15 beta ()
23:37.07CIA-12-- Broom mounts, some BE quest items.
23:37.07CIA-12-- Stealth Button (Druid only), Priest, Rogue & Night Elf mia
23:37.08CIA-12-- Sting Button & Category
23:37.10CIA-12-- Oil of Immolation (buff), Goblin Fishing Pole (explosives)
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23:44.15NeoTronZealotOnAStick: since when? Our healing leader uses multi-line macros all the time in custom channels
23:44.35NeoTronlast time being last night in Hyjal
23:45.29ZealotOnAStickSince the last few days.
23:45.53ZealotOnAStickThat's why I'm asking about it, I'm wondering if some library is at fault or something, or if it's something Blizz.
23:46.37NeoTronwell he definitely did do multi-line stuff last night
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23:49.42ZealotOnAStickI just had our priest CL log out, disable ALL mods, log back in with nothing running, and he can't use a multi-line chat macro on a custom channel.
23:49.46ZealotOnAStickNow, it'll work on Raid . . .
23:50.32Xinhuanas far as i can tell, it only works on raid, say and party
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23:51.21Xinhuani'll check ui forums
23:51.53XinhuanZealotOnAStick: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518906131&sid=1
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23:53.55CIA-1203bashui * r52931 10CatPoints/ (EffectiveHealth.lua modules.xml):
23:53.55CIA-12CatPoints:
23:53.55CIA-12- Enabled Effective health
23:53.55CIA-12- Scaled down the effective health rating by 100
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23:59.29NeoTron:se noai
23:59.30NeoTrona:se ai
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