00:00.31 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r52729 10ArcHUD2/Locale_zhTW.lua: |
00:00.31 | CIA-12 | ArcHUD2: |
00:00.31 | CIA-12 | - zhTW update |
00:00.33 | Provus | In computing, Subversion (SVN) is a version control system (VCS) initiated in 2000 by CollabNet Inc. It allows users to keep track of changes made to any type of electronic data, typically source code, web pages or design documents. |
00:00.40 | Stanzilla | Toadkiller: what do I have to do to make AutoBar use my cycircled skin? |
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00:01.21 | Provus | So basically it makes that announcement when the changelog is updated? |
00:01.48 | NightHawkTheSan1 | well, you've massively mixed up cause and effect, but i suppose you're getting closer |
00:02.22 | Provus | What's the cause |
00:02.29 | NightHawkTheSan1 | changelogs, the zips on files, and announcements by cia are all based on commits made to subversion. |
00:03.04 | Stanzilla | Toadkiller: oh and why doesn't autobar let my use the trinket category? |
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00:06.07 | Balstor | There was even a trick I read about where mages were binding their scorch spell to their mouse wheel, |
00:06.17 | Balstor | Why does that worry me??? |
00:06.26 | Provus | ..so when it's submitted. |
00:09.58 | kebinusan | daily quests are bugged on my realm at least |
00:10.08 | kebinusan | they can be done every 2 hours |
00:10.18 | starlon | heh |
00:10.21 | kebinusan | makes headless horseman farming fun |
00:12.49 | stavmar | is there something wrong witht he latest closetgnome |
00:13.42 | stavmar | http://ace.pastey.net/75581 |
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00:14.30 | durcyn | stavmar: what language is your client? |
00:14.37 | stavmar | US |
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00:16.03 | durcyn | stavmar: works here, make sure you updated correctly - line 188 is a blank line on my svn checkout |
00:16.38 | stavmar | ok TY |
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00:25.56 | CIA-12 | 03archarodim * r52730 10Decursive/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
00:25.56 | CIA-12 | Decursive: |
00:25.56 | CIA-12 | - From now on, Decursive is dedicated to the memory of Bertrand Sense who died just a week ago and was known as Glorfindal on "Les Sentinelles" (EU server). A special menu entry has been added. |
00:25.56 | CIA-12 | - Version to 2.0.4 |
00:26.19 | Bejitt | o.O |
00:26.34 | Bejitt | i knew a Glorfindal, on Dunemaul (US) |
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00:28.01 | NightHawkTheSan1 | It's probably not an uncommon name for people to use |
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00:30.04 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r52731 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Halazzi.lua Jan'alai.lua Malacrass.lua Zul'jin.lua): |
00:30.04 | CIA-12 | .ZulAman : |
00:30.04 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
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00:31.35 | xyu | in baggins is there a way to purchase new bank slots if you have "Default bank" turned to off? |
00:32.58 | Hjalte | xyu: no. thats why you can turn default bank on from the menu :) |
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00:59.50 | Orionshock | OneSuite (for bags) > * |
01:00.28 | Hjalte | Orionshock: Virtual bags > * |
01:00.51 | Toadkiller | Stanzilla: did you make a custom button & add trinkets to it? |
01:02.09 | Toadkiller | Stanzilla: If so then you still have to wait for the PT3 mining script to be completed. Or add the exact trinkets you want to PeriodicTable3 as a temporary measure. |
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01:02.43 | annuits | Hi guys! |
01:03.06 | Toadkiller | Stanzilla: you need to download the latest cyCircled & the latest AutoBar. |
01:03.31 | annuits | are there any healers here? |
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01:04.46 | annuits | ? |
01:06.03 | Orionshock | ? |
01:06.55 | Hjalte | annuits: I've got a holy priest? |
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01:07.52 | Stanzilla | Toadkiller: I had the latest version of both and I just added a custom field with the trinket cat. then it did not work so I modied an existing button to show my trinkets, did not work. then I set the same field to show my heathstone and that just worked fine. so it has to be an error with the trinket categorie |
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01:16.31 | annuit | hjalte do uyou raid? |
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01:16.54 | Hjalte | annuit: I used to, but now i raid on my warrior. |
01:17.22 | annuit | well do you know any good custom Ui's i can use? |
01:17.23 | Codayus | annuit: I raid as a healer, although not a great deal in the last couple of months. |
01:17.37 | annuit | do you use any custom UI's |
01:17.56 | Codayus | Visit wowace, grab mods. Start with grid. Customize to tase. :-) |
01:18.06 | annuit | i got grid |
01:18.33 | annuit | i dont know what els to get tho |
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01:19.05 | Codayus | Grid, pitbull/aguf, sct, Clique/clic2cast, fubar, any useful sounding fubar plugins, an actionbar mod (bartender, probably), um...a dot timer like chronometer. |
01:19.16 | Codayus | What do you WANT? |
01:19.29 | annuit | what u mean what do i want? |
01:19.41 | Codayus | Everyone's tastes, needs, requirements, style is different. |
01:20.13 | annuit | on wowhead i saw one i liked some one posted but i never got to know wat it was called |
01:20.28 | dylanm_ | Link to the wowhead thing? |
01:20.33 | Codayus | Grid, Clique, and a mod to track HoT refresh timers is probably all a *healer* needs. |
01:20.54 | annuit | whats clique? never herd off it |
01:20.58 | dylanm_ | If you can find it again... someone will likely recognize it. |
01:21.17 | Codayus | Everything else is just general UI stuff. ClosetGnome to change gear sets, or some unit frames you can customize just how you want. |
01:21.21 | annuit | http://xs319.xs.to/xs319/07385/WoWScrnShot_092107_154044.jpg that is what i wouldnt mind |
01:21.38 | annuit | does any one know wat it is? |
01:21.56 | Codayus | Clique and click2cast are two mods that let you bind stuff like shift-left-click to specific heals, so you can click on a unit frame or a grid square and heal that person. |
01:22.14 | dylanm_ | Clique is a mod by cladhaire that gives you click casting... that is to say you can configure Shift-Left Click on a unitframe for a Flash Heal on the unit... it's really useful. Whenever I'm forced to shift out of shadowform and heal that's what I use. |
01:22.16 | Ellipsis | is there any way to force Threat-1.0 to clear itself when you are stuck on the threat list? |
01:22.46 | annuit | im use to macros kinda like |
01:22.55 | Codayus | You can heal without Clique, but why would you want to? :-) |
01:22.58 | annuit | just with defult CT riad up and clicking and ddoing alt 1 etc |
01:23.08 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: /rl |
01:23.09 | annuit | i might try it out |
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01:23.16 | annuit | back to the pic what UI is it ? http://xs319.xs.to/xs319/07385/WoWScrnShot_092107_154044.jpg |
01:23.23 | dylanm_ | Holy wow absolution regalia... anyway, what part of the screenshot is interesting to you? |
01:23.29 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: omen has a "issue a threat clear request" option, when you're grouped and leader/Assist. dunno for locally, probably there's some function to call directly |
01:23.30 | dylanm_ | We're not really... into compilations here. |
01:23.35 | vrak | annuit: that grid of boxes is likely Grid |
01:23.41 | vrak | (to the lower right) |
01:23.48 | annuit | i know that but is it a pack |
01:23.52 | dylanm_ | It's better if you put things together yourself imo. |
01:23.54 | annuit | or did that person do it him self? |
01:24.10 | vrak | probably put it together himself, yes |
01:24.14 | annuit | dam... |
01:24.18 | dylanm_ | They very well might have... I can only recall the looks of a few custom UIs and it doesn't appear to be one of those. |
01:24.24 | dylanm_ | You could recreate it without too much trouble. |
01:24.40 | annuit | yea i jsut find it hard to pick the mods and set them out |
01:24.52 | annuit | if i new all the mods that person has and how do put them there i would get. |
01:25.04 | Codayus | annuit: Probably did it himself, could be a compilation. Not hard. The bars on the right on elk buff bars. The squares are grid. Unit frames...could be anything. The chat is done by Prat. eePanels for the borders, probably. |
01:25.12 | Adys | annuit, you might well just want or even prefer another mod rather than the one the person has |
01:25.24 | Adys | unitframe looks like either pitbull, or reskinned aguf |
01:25.43 | Adys | anyway what interests you is likely the mods Codayus mentionned |
01:26.02 | Codayus | Probably SCT or Parrot for the text in the middle. The map would be...squeenix. THe numbers in the bottom left...no clue, looks boring. :-) |
01:26.04 | dylanm_ | I just think compilations are a slippery slope... I mean look at all the Mazzle trouble. I don't want any part of that. |
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01:26.15 | annuit | i want a mod that i can have only 1 bar on and macro it all like how he had it i know its bartender3 but i find it hard to set up |
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01:27.07 | annuit | like i know how to get the rows jsut i dont know how to get that black box around it |
01:27.08 | Adys | annuit, it'll be just as hard to setup if it comes from a compilation |
01:27.23 | Draake | I have a pretty low framerate and I think it's related to pitbull, is that likely and does anyone have any suggestions for setup/alternatives? |
01:27.42 | annuit | well im gonna try bartender3 again but how do i set the blaxk box up? |
01:27.43 | Adys | Draake: I recommend aguf wholeheartedly, having tested both |
01:27.47 | Codayus | Draake: I switched back to aguf. |
01:27.51 | annuit | and around the mini map |
01:28.03 | Draake | I tried that, is seems almost exactly the same. |
01:28.05 | Adys | annuit: Dont take that for sure, but it might be a reskin of cyCyrcled |
01:28.18 | Adys | Draake: Maybe another addon? |
01:28.20 | Codayus | annuit: Boxes were probably done with eePanels, if I understand your question? |
01:28.29 | kenlyric | I know I asked this earlier but left before the response... CArt_QuestObjectives and _QuestInfo, are they the same thing? |
01:28.29 | Draake | I meant feature wise, what's the difference? |
01:28.51 | annuit | hmm. so hard to pick my new ui |
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01:29.38 | Adys | annuit, just download random stuff that might be interested, take 10 mins to set it up, rinse and repeat 10 times, and you got a new ui |
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01:30.37 | annuit | wats better bartender3 or bongos? |
01:31.27 | Stanzilla | Toadkiller: you can answer in the forums^^ going to bed now! :p |
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01:33.16 | annuits | is perl any good healing wise? |
01:36.25 | Gagorian | annuits: Isn't that all based on what you prefer yourself? |
01:36.30 | Codayus | To heal, you need grid and clique. Unit frames are a personal and unrelated choice, IMHO. |
01:36.43 | CIA-12 | 03bayi * r52732 10beql/ (questlog.lua tracker.lua): |
01:36.43 | CIA-12 | beql: |
01:36.43 | CIA-12 | - Core: Removed Tracker Update workaround code |
01:36.43 | CIA-12 | - Core: Added Quixote issue workaround in the QUEST_LOG_UPDATE event |
01:36.43 | CIA-12 | - Core: Fixed broken features with the old workaround |
01:37.58 | annuits | yea but i dont know wat is good lol |
01:38.05 | annuits | im doing my UI now all by my self |
01:39.02 | annuits | you know when you start a quest how it goes under your mini map how can i stop that |
01:39.47 | kenlyric | good luck with that. I've been trying for a year to make that sit somewhere else :) |
01:40.11 | annuits | lol |
01:42.08 | CIA-12 | 03bayi * r52733 10beql/extra/questhistory.xml: beql: - Fixed a typo in the Quest History Frame title |
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01:46.32 | vrak | turn off the built-in auto-tracking of quests |
01:49.15 | Draake | Is there an addon in ace that creates a grid you can align movable elements to? |
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01:50.55 | durcyn | Draake: look for 'Align' on wowinterface.com |
01:52.02 | Paradox | would be nice if frames snapped to the grid though |
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02:16.02 | dylanm_ | SetPoint for the win |
02:18.19 | Draake | I'm trying to configure autobar, is there a way to move these buttons onto other bars like bartender bars, or a way to break it up into multiple bars? |
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02:30.08 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r52734 10/branches/WoWEquip/ (WoWEquipData.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Splitting up the data and localization - Part 2. |
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02:31.28 | aestil | i run 19x12 and don't have dual core cpu, does that leave me with only fraps half size option for raid filming? |
02:31.53 | aestil | Ellipsis: its time for the new bag mod test. help? |
02:32.23 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: that doesn't look right...? |
02:32.43 | Gnarfoz | aestil: yup, restricted to half-size you are |
02:33.37 | aestil | Gnarfoz: is there some other program option? |
02:33.46 | aestil | i'm amazed that the only product that does this sort of thing is fraps. |
02:34.29 | aestil | it doesn't even appear to 'scale' the image, it seems like its just writing every other pixel or something. |
02:34.36 | Gnarfoz | there is gamecam, but it's far worse than fraps, IMHO :) |
02:34.49 | aestil | in what way is it worse? |
02:34.54 | Gnarfoz | aestil: that's what the faq/docs say it does: record only half the pixels. |
02:35.12 | Gnarfoz | performance, quality, usability |
02:35.36 | aestil | so basically, i have to get a dual core cpu in a laptop, on a motherboard that i probably cant put a dual core cpu on. |
02:35.59 | Gnarfoz | if you want to record at that insane resolution: guess so =) |
02:36.28 | theoddone33 | hm |
02:36.28 | Gnarfoz | (also, what kind of laptop has the biggest wide-screen resolution there currently is but no dual core cpu? oO) |
02:36.30 | aestil | Antiarc: does threat properly handle righteous fury buff and improve talents. |
02:36.37 | theoddone33 | wonder if I should do a mad dash from 55 - 58 |
02:36.51 | aestil | one that is just slighlty older than dual core laptop computers :) |
02:37.16 | aestil | and techincally, its probably faster for wow in most circumstances, than the dual core ones that came out shortly after i purchaced this one. |
02:37.29 | aestil | just not very good for fraps. |
02:37.47 | aestil | if i had a dual core desktop, could i use the laptop monitor as my output screen? |
02:38.26 | Gnarfoz | guess not, how would you connect the two? |
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02:39.05 | aestil | magic? |
02:39.21 | Gnarfoz | also: F:\WoW\Interface\Addons\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Paladin.lua <-- yes, Threat is aware of RF |
02:40.08 | CIA-12 | 03mecdemort * r52735 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua: IceHUD: Possible fix for nil error in TargetInfo |
02:42.02 | Zhinjio | if you want to determine if a table is empty, do you compare to {} or nil or are they equivalent? |
02:42.10 | Zhinjio | or should you check if #table == 0? |
02:42.16 | theoddone33 | hm how come quartz tells me I've got 400ms latency when I cast, but the fubar performance thing says 60-70ms all the time? |
02:42.22 | Nargiddley | if next(table) then <table is non empty> end |
02:42.43 | Nargiddley | #table only works for integer indexed tables |
02:43.04 | Orionshock | what does next(t) to? |
02:43.18 | Nargiddley | gets the next key from the table, its the basis for pairs |
02:43.18 | Zhinjio | returns the next key |
02:43.33 | Zhinjio | so ... hmm. ok. I'll give that a shot. |
02:45.20 | Nargiddley | hm actually, next(t) == nil should be the test to catch false being the only key |
02:48.14 | Zhinjio | ok. |
02:48.16 | CIA-12 | 03babu 07beta * r52736 10TrainingWheels/TrainingWheels/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
02:48.16 | CIA-12 | TrainingWheels: |
02:48.16 | CIA-12 | - Merging trunk changes to beta branch. |
02:48.30 | Zhinjio | if not next( table ) then blah end |
02:48.33 | Zhinjio | wasn't quite working. |
02:50.54 | Gnarfoz | theoddone33: a fresh call to get the current latency each time a cast bar is created vs. averaged latency? :) |
02:51.16 | theoddone33 | yeah but I'd think my average latency should be a lot higher |
02:51.21 | theoddone33 | if quartz is reporting 400ms a lot |
02:51.23 | Zhinjio | hmm. still no love. It looks like it properly removes a few table entries, and then I get "attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
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02:51.43 | Nargiddley | what are you trying to do ? |
02:52.05 | Zhinjio | I have a dynamiocally generated ace options table 3 layers deep |
02:52.11 | Zhinjio | I populate it with all my guild members |
02:52.21 | Zhinjio | and once I'm done populating it, I want to remove empty subtrees |
02:52.38 | Zhinjio | so the tree is <rank> -> <class> -> <alpha> |
02:52.53 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r647 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (4 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - I'm so excited, I've got Felwood! |
02:52.57 | Zhinjio | the tree is sparsely populated, and I want to prune empty branches. |
02:53.03 | Zhinjio | lemme pastey that section |
02:53.43 | Zhinjio | http://pastey.net/75588 |
02:54.21 | Zhinjio | the third layer has 5 groupings of alphabetical . A-C, D-F, G-L, M-R, S-Z |
02:54.23 | Nargiddley | are all your tables build up using tinsert ? |
02:54.27 | Zhinjio | (for refefrence) |
02:54.28 | Zhinjio | yes |
02:54.37 | Nargiddley | then #table == 0 is good enough |
02:54.53 | Zhinjio | ah, good point. lemme try that. |
02:55.00 | Nargiddley | the problem you're running into |
02:55.05 | Nargiddley | wont be fixed by that |
02:55.13 | Nargiddley | you have a table, 5 entries |
02:55.24 | Nargiddley | you loop 1-5, removing 3 cause its empty |
02:55.26 | Zhinjio | oh, I seeit. |
02:55.29 | Zhinjio | yeah |
02:55.40 | Nargiddley | 4 and 5 get moved down, so when you hit 5 it doesnt exist |
02:55.44 | Zhinjio | once I remove any entry, the 5th index is a bad ... yeah |
02:55.50 | Zhinjio | interesting. |
02:56.05 | Xinhuan | either use ipairs() |
02:56.12 | Nargiddley | will have the same problem |
02:56.34 | Zhinjio | I need a more intelligent way to traverse. |
02:56.41 | Xinhuan | or use a for i = 1, n do id you tdelete, do a (i = i-1) loop |
02:56.47 | Xinhuan | if |
02:56.47 | Nargiddley | loop backwards |
02:56.54 | Xinhuan | or that |
02:56.56 | Nargiddley | for i = #table, 1, -1 |
02:56.57 | Xinhuan | loop backwards from 5 to 1 |
02:57.06 | Zhinjio | yeah. |
02:57.14 | Zhinjio | thats actually pretty darn easy to change too. |
02:57.39 | Xinhuan | why do you need to prune the empty ones though? |
02:57.53 | Zhinjio | because I'm really anal and hate not being neat. |
02:58.02 | Xinhuan | you end up recreating them later if you need them |
02:58.09 | Xinhuan | can just leave them empty |
02:58.44 | Zhinjio | the funny part is this bit of code, that options table is only ever used by the guild leader, and most likely only once or twice when first setting up stuff for the guild, and then never used again. |
02:58.45 | Nargiddley | or create them on demand as you fill them |
02:58.57 | Zhinjio | alot of this is me learning how to do stuff along the way. |
02:59.04 | Xinhuan | what addon is this? |
02:59.11 | Zhinjio | SuicideKingsGeo |
02:59.18 | Xinhuan | ah a dkp thing? |
02:59.21 | Zhinjio | yeah |
02:59.55 | Xinhuan | i never understood how suicideking dkp works |
02:59.58 | Xinhuan | can you explain? heh |
03:00.02 | Zhinjio | too many people were asking for features that the old code I took over wouldn't support. Plus, I wanted to learn more. Plus, I wanted to move to a framework instead of the way it was written. |
03:00.11 | Zhinjio | sure. |
03:00.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Xinhuan: i believe there's a description on wowwiki |
03:00.21 | Zhinjio | or that. |
03:00.23 | Zhinjio | heh |
03:00.31 | Zhinjio | if you have questions after reading that, just msg me. |
03:00.37 | Zhinjio | and I'll clear anything else up. |
03:00.43 | Xinhuan | really? heh |
03:00.52 | NightHawkTheSan1 | it's a fairly straightforward system, though |
03:01.01 | Zhinjio | I like it alot. |
03:01.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Yeah, i've not used it, but it does look rather nice |
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03:01.45 | Zhinjio | I like its simplicity more than anything else. |
03:01.53 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yea |
03:01.53 | Zhinjio | no complex loot tables to manage, values to set, blah blah blah. |
03:02.14 | Zhinjio | and I think this rewrite will address even more of the previous complaints about it |
03:02.17 | Xinhuan | ah i just read it |
03:02.20 | Xinhuan | sounds interesting |
03:02.21 | Zhinjio | and then I can take over the world. |
03:02.22 | Zhinjio | hahahaha., |
03:02.35 | NightHawkTheSan1 | what complaints is your rewrite addressing? |
03:02.55 | Ellipsis | ping aestil |
03:03.14 | Zhinjio | 1) lingering communications bugs |
03:03.23 | Zhinjio | 2) security for who can sync (this is probably the biggest one) |
03:03.38 | Zhinjio | 3) bid filtering by class, role, and armor type |
03:04.06 | Xinhuan | the system seems easy enough to be able to be done by hand manually |
03:04.11 | Zhinjio | and a slew of other "little" improvements I thought of along the way |
03:04.33 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan, it is actually pretty hard to ... for one reason: |
03:04.59 | Zhinjio | if you have a main raiding list of 50 people... and only 10 are present, only the people who are PRESENT actually move through the list when someone suicides. |
03:05.11 | Zhinjio | maintaining the by hand is kind of a nightmare |
03:05.17 | Zhinjio | s/the/that/ |
03:05.18 | Xinhuan | so you only need to record down a list of people who last suicided |
03:05.34 | Zhinjio | and who was present |
03:05.38 | Xinhuan | so lets say i raid on thursday, player X, P, Q and then R suicided |
03:05.45 | Xinhuan | so i just record X, P, Q, R in that order |
03:05.49 | Xinhuan | and when i update that list |
03:05.53 | Zhinjio | and its especially fun if you have two groups raiding at the same time using the same list. |
03:05.56 | Xinhuan | i move those 4 down to the bottom in that order |
03:06.06 | Zhinjio | they don't move to the bottom |
03:06.06 | Xinhuan | how is that difficult? |
03:06.18 | Xinhuan | they dont? the wiki page says they move to the bottom |
03:06.28 | aestil | <PROTECTED> |
03:06.32 | aestil | what mod is it? |
03:06.33 | Zhinjio | they move to the bottom of the list of people who were present. |
03:06.44 | Zhinjio | so for simplicity, lets say we have a list of 5 people. |
03:06.47 | Zhinjio | positions 1-5 |
03:06.52 | Zhinjio | two people are present. 2 and 4 |
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03:06.54 | CIA-12 | DaHud: |
03:06.54 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
03:07.02 | Zhinjio | if 2 suicides, 2 goes to FOUR, not 5 |
03:07.08 | Zhinjio | and 4 bubbles up to TWO |
03:07.19 | Xinhuan | so 12345 becomes 13425? |
03:07.20 | Zhinjio | because only those 2 people are present in the list of 5 |
03:07.32 | Zhinjio | 12345 becomes 14325 |
03:07.44 | CIA-12 | 03babu 07babu * r52738 10TrainingWheels/: TrainingWheels branch for Babu |
03:07.47 | Xinhuan | i see, that's not the description given on wowwiki |
03:07.53 | Xinhuan | is that a change your guild made? |
03:07.58 | Zhinjio | nope. |
03:08.11 | Toadkiller | So in the 25 man I suicide on some good stuff then hop on a carefully chosen 10 man later & zip back to the top? |
03:08.18 | Xinhuan | what toad said |
03:08.35 | Zhinjio | you can maintain different lists for 10 mans and 25 mans if you want |
03:08.37 | Xinhuan | the guy on the last can hop up more than 20+ ranks at a go |
03:08.45 | Zhinjio | thats completely up to the guild leaders/guild |
03:09.05 | Zhinjio | alot of guilds do that, actually. |
03:09.06 | Xinhuan | well this doesn't seem fair to the people that happen to miss a single raid due to irl stuff |
03:09.11 | Zhinjio | they'll maintain a different list for each dungeon |
03:09.13 | CIA-12 | 03babu 07babu * r52739 10TrainingWheels/TrainingWheels/: |
03:09.13 | CIA-12 | TrainingWheels |
03:09.13 | CIA-12 | -Branch for Babu |
03:09.27 | Zhinjio | actually, it is. if you aren't present: you don't move in the list. your position is maintained. |
03:09.37 | Zhinjio | if you save up your suicide for along time, and get to position 1 |
03:09.43 | Zhinjio | and then stop raiding for a month |
03:09.45 | Toadkiller | Ok so different scenario, i Suicide on some good stuff then join the b team for some crappy instance & hop back to the top... |
03:09.49 | Zhinjio | when you come back, you're still at position 1 |
03:09.54 | Codayus | Xinhuan: Just tabbed in, but if I'm following the topic...it is very fair in a sense. If you aren't in a raid, your position will NEVER change - which can be good or bad. |
03:10.01 | Zhinjio | yes |
03:10.05 | Zhinjio | correct Codayus |
03:10.24 | Xinhuan | see, the problem is this, lets say you have 50 people on the list. you happen to be on a 10-man where the rank 1 guy is in the raid, then the rest are rank 20 and below |
03:10.24 | Codayus | In other DKP systems, you can come back from a month tofind your now at the top of your class...or the bottom, depending on the system, and the vagaries of drops. |
03:10.27 | Xinhuan | so the rank 1 guy suicides |
03:10.31 | Xinhuan | the rank 20 guy becomes #1 |
03:10.41 | Xinhuan | that sounds slightly silly to me |
03:10.43 | Zhinjio | thats correct Xhinhuan |
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03:11.05 | Zhinjio | the real fun stuff happens when two groups are raiding at the same time and using the same list. |
03:11.11 | Xinhuan | that's just a personal opinion of mine though |
03:11.15 | Zhinjio | they are effectively independent |
03:11.22 | Xinhuan | i will have no idea how well it would work out |
03:11.23 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I don't think anyone's arguing that it's a perfect system |
03:11.25 | Zhinjio | each maintaining their list of 10 "actives" who can move. |
03:11.26 | NightHawkTheSan1 | nothing is |
03:11.34 | Zhinjio | heh, yeah, true dat. |
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03:11.46 | Codayus | It tends to work better if your roster is close to the raid size. If you've got 30 raiders and a 25 man raid, it makes sense. |
03:11.46 | Toadkiller | Well its not a system for me. Toadkiller prefers cronyism and being the premier healing druid with automatic first dibs on druidy heal stuff |
03:12.21 | Xinhuan | do you raid karazhan? |
03:12.25 | Xinhuan | i assume you do |
03:12.26 | Zhinjio | me? |
03:12.26 | Xinhuan | lol |
03:12.27 | Zhinjio | yes |
03:12.36 | Xinhuan | how many SK tables do you have for karazhan |
03:12.39 | Zhinjio | we run two groups a week, on ehte same nights |
03:12.41 | Xinhuan | one for normal loot, onr for T4? |
03:12.43 | Codayus | Speaking of which, I wonder what most guilds are doing for ZA... |
03:12.44 | Toadkiller | Not anymore just ssc & eye till we attune for BT & Hyjal |
03:12.46 | Zhinjio | just 1 |
03:13.06 | Zhinjio | if a tier item drops, only those classes can bid' |
03:13.08 | Codayus | We just /random in Kara, but we run zero sum DKP in SSC/TK. So, logical.y...um... |
03:13.11 | Xinhuan | does T4 class eligibility affect the way the system works? |
03:13.11 | Zhinjio | thats handled manually |
03:13.25 | Toadkiller | We just ran 1-3 10 mans & then dropped down to just 1 10 man with some alts |
03:13.38 | Xinhuan | Codayus, i do that with my guild ;p |
03:13.43 | Zhinjio | in the current old code, it has to be handled manually. with the rewrite, the master looter will be able to selcet which classes can bid, and it will only accept those classes. |
03:14.10 | Codayus | We rank SK in ZG a long LONG time ago. Kinda fun... |
03:14.30 | Xinhuan | so the addon will automatically decide who wins right? |
03:14.35 | Zhinjio | yes. |
03:14.37 | Xinhuan | and commit the change to the SK tables? |
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03:14.41 | Zhinjio | correct |
03:14.45 | Xinhuan | you'll probably want an "undo feature" |
03:14.49 | Zhinjio | there is one |
03:14.59 | Codayus | s/rank/ran |
03:15.02 | Zhinjio | in the current code. |
03:15.11 | Zhinjio | it maintains the last, I believe, 10 changes to the lists |
03:15.19 | Zhinjio | however, I don't believe it works. |
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03:15.25 | Xinhuan | since errors can occur, etc |
03:15.25 | Zhinjio | the rewrite will also address this. |
03:16.34 | Xinhuan | what do you do with items that nobody wants? |
03:16.58 | Zhinjio | if noone bids, it gives a message indicating to DE the item, and the ML sends it to the DE toon in the raid. |
03:17.01 | Zhinjio | oooooo |
03:17.29 | Zhinjio | that'd be an interesting improvement. assigning the DE toon so it directs the looter to take the right action |
03:17.30 | Xinhuan | would you not give it to someone who might use it, the "kinda want it, but don't want to suicide" person? |
03:17.34 | Toadkiller | On the other hand BLizzard fixed many of the old loot flaws with specific class drops (except for the part where they totally screwed druids by lumping us in with warriors &priests). So even a strange system like SK is not too bad. Stuff drops fast & furious in the 10 mans & even the 25 mans don't take too long to get everyone their first crack at an armor slot. |
03:17.50 | Xinhuan | kind of like "i'm a restor spec healer, but that dps item dropped that nobody wants" |
03:18.03 | Codayus | Having off spec gear mostly drop from trash was great. |
03:18.05 | Codayus | Tokens are good. |
03:18.06 | Zhinjio | well, thats up the rules of the guild. our guild requires that you suicide. |
03:18.13 | Xinhuan | ah |
03:18.13 | Codayus | And the new bonus damage on heal gear is nice... |
03:18.17 | Zhinjio | others... if noone bids, they ask if anyone wants it, etc. |
03:18.25 | Codayus | Loot now >>> the old ZG days |
03:18.35 | Xinhuan | i still don't like the current token system |
03:18.49 | Xinhuan | you can still get unlucky and get streaks of your class token not dropping |
03:19.03 | Xinhuan | AQ40 had the best system since every week is gauranteed to have 2 tokens, and very class covered |
03:19.05 | Toadkiller | Our raid only de if nobody wants it & we cant force someone to take it against their will because we already forced it on them b4 |
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03:19.06 | CIA-12 | TrainingWheels: |
03:19.06 | CIA-12 | - Removed file/folder |
03:19.06 | CIA-12 | - Couldn't branch properly. Trying again T_T. |
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03:19.23 | Xinhuan | every* |
03:19.23 | Zhinjio | its been nice for our runs too, we get a new person in the group every once in awhile, and the rest of the groups is well geared up. they can stay at the bottom of the list and keep suiciding. if noone else bids (because everyone already has stuff), it doesn't matter that they are at the bottom if they're the only bidder: they still win |
03:19.49 | Xinhuan | well that happens exactly the same with with zero-sum dkp guilds |
03:20.06 | Xinhuan | they join the guild, pick up lots of gear, realize they won't reach the top unless they hoard |
03:20.10 | Xinhuan | so they just pick up everything |
03:20.11 | Zhinjio | before I found this (and took it over), I used 0sum systems. |
03:20.13 | Zhinjio | by preference |
03:20.57 | Zhinjio | ok, trying out that reverse looping code now... |
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03:21.02 | CIA-12 | TrainingWheels: |
03:21.02 | CIA-12 | - Branching beta to babu branch for me to develop changes until they're ready for beta. |
03:21.42 | Toadkiller | Mmm we use a need / greed system. Need if its an ug for your spec, greed if it is offspec. Need goes by priority. Greed just randoms amongst the greeders. New people thus get priority over greeders & gear up quickly. |
03:22.27 | Zhinjio | oh that is just awesome. it worked! |
03:22.37 | Zhinjio | Thanks Nargiddley and Xinhuan! |
03:22.51 | Zhinjio | nicely pruned and neat tree. |
03:24.30 | Antiarc | http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/1/ipv45.png |
03:24.45 | CIA-12 | 03babu 07babu * r52742 10TrainingWheels/TrainingWheels/ (Migration.lua SpellFrame.lua TrainingWheels.lua): |
03:24.45 | CIA-12 | TrainingWheels: |
03:24.45 | CIA-12 | - Added more comments and rearranged the code. |
03:24.45 | CIA-12 | - Not complete, probably will not run. |
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03:28.34 | Xinhuan | hmm i'm bored |
03:28.36 | Xinhuan | ok not really |
03:30.14 | Xinhuan | its like the |
03:30.23 | Xinhuan | "i have this code i'm supposed to update" |
03:30.33 | Xinhuan | "but its tedious and i don't really want to" |
03:30.38 | Xinhuan | "but its really easy" |
03:30.47 | Xinhuan | "but its freaking tedious and i don't really want to do it, so i'm bored" |
03:30.52 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Xinhuan: yeah, i've got half-dozenish projects that are exactly like that |
03:30.55 | Xinhuan | -- procastination at work |
03:31.18 | NightHawkTheSan1 | "This is a really easy script/program to write, but it's just so tedius, meh.. i'll do it later." |
03:31.50 | Xinhuan | see i wrote my table such that it has both data and strings together |
03:31.57 | Xinhuan | now i need to localize those damn strings |
03:32.06 | Xinhuan | so i have to strip out the table of some 300 strings one by one |
03:32.21 | Xinhuan | like replace "abc" with L["abc"] |
03:32.27 | Xinhuan | and create a table up there with that entry |
03:32.38 | Xinhuan | you can't do it automatically |
03:32.46 | Zhinjio | FOr that very reason, I'm glad I discovered the localization stuff early on in my LUA travels. |
03:33.29 | Xinhuan | so this is really easy, like 3 strings per min |
03:33.33 | Xinhuan | but with 300 of those strings... |
03:33.40 | Xinhuan | 1 hour of boredom |
03:33.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | wait, why can't you script that? |
03:34.12 | NightHawkTheSan1 | or rather, i guess i mean, do a find/replace? |
03:34.21 | Wobin | Xinhuan: sar? |
03:34.37 | Wobin | You can do that in vim |
03:34.38 | Xinhuan | because my data contains strings that i don't want to localize |
03:34.51 | Xinhuan | such as "Interface\\Icons\\etc" |
03:35.00 | Xinhuan | and strings that i want to localize |
03:35.02 | Wobin | But they number less than the number of ones you do? |
03:35.08 | Xinhuan | they are equal in number |
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03:35.13 | Wobin | oh |
03:35.15 | Xinhuan | since each is paired |
03:35.21 | Wobin | well you can still use sar |
03:35.27 | Wobin | just ignore any that have \\ |
03:35.33 | Xinhuan | one is text to be displayed, one is icon to display -- and the icon string may not be present |
03:35.42 | Wobin | regexp ftw |
03:35.44 | Xinhuan | because an entry may not have an icon |
03:35.50 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Yea, regex ftw. :P |
03:36.16 | Xinhuan | oh well |
03:36.36 | Xinhuan | well, i still need to create that entry in the localization table |
03:36.46 | Xinhuan | so you still have to cut and paste each of the 300 strings to that table |
03:36.53 | Wobin | nope |
03:36.54 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you could script that pretty easy |
03:36.58 | Xinhuan | no? |
03:37.04 | Wobin | vim can dump the strings it matches at the top/bottom |
03:37.16 | Xinhuan | ah, so you're saying to run a script on the lua file itself |
03:37.33 | Wobin | well for my suggestion it was more of a single command |
03:37.35 | NightHawkTheSan1 | well, i wasn't aware vim did that |
03:37.39 | Wobin | lemme see what I can find |
03:38.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | but barring using vim, yeah, it'd be a relatively easy perl script to just grep through, doing substitution with a regex and then dumping the strings into another file, or the end of the file, or wherever. |
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03:40.30 | Wobin | :g/^Error:/ copy $ | s /Error/copy of the error/ |
03:40.43 | aestil | if i'm gonnna level a shaman enhancement, should what are th efirst five pts spent? 5% more mana or block 5% more and block 25% more dmg? |
03:42.05 | Xinhuan | neither, hardcore it up and tell people "i lvled with 0/0/0" |
03:42.07 | Wobin | or in your case... :g/"[^\]":/ copy $ | s /("[^\]")/L["\1"]/ |
03:42.10 | Wobin | maybe |
03:42.13 | Wobin | or something like that |
03:42.39 | Xinhuan | i think its a bit more complicated than that wobin ;p |
03:42.43 | Wobin | http://www.geocities.com/volontir/#global%20search |
03:42.44 | Xinhuan | you see, my icon paths |
03:42.48 | Wobin | Xinhuan: possibly |
03:42.52 | Wobin | but it's achievable |
03:42.52 | Xinhuan | that i put in my data |
03:42.53 | NightHawkTheSan1 | aestil: pick up 5% mana |
03:42.59 | Xinhuan | doesn't include the Interface\\Icons\\ part |
03:43.06 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you won't put on a shield after hitting level 20 anyway |
03:43.07 | Xinhuan | so its just purely the filename |
03:43.21 | NightHawkTheSan1 | (well, unless you spec out of enh, but i digress) |
03:43.23 | Xinhuan | "INV_Misc_Gem_AzureDraenite_02" |
03:43.33 | Wobin | better then to use a script |
03:43.41 | aestil | and then 5% crit. |
03:43.43 | Wobin | and match on "INV or "MAGIC or something |
03:43.50 | Xinhuan | and the filenames can be just about anything |
03:43.55 | aestil | is imp Lightening shield worth ti? seems like the spell is terrible unimproved. |
03:44.03 | Xinhuan | which can begin with ABILITY_, SPELL_, INV_, etc |
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03:44.25 | Xinhuan | i think gettnig a script to do this automatically will prob take as long as doing it manually lol |
03:45.07 | Xinhuan | "Spell_Fire_SealOfFire" |
03:45.18 | NightHawkTheSan1 | aestil: *shrug* it's not a bad talent. Lightning Shield is actually fairly efficiant damage/mana if you're getting hit enough to use it up. |
03:45.36 | NightHawkTheSan1 | aestil: but it's also not a spectacular must-have talent either. Personally, I'd probably skip it |
03:46.10 | Korben | hey all |
03:46.15 | Korben | i have a question |
03:46.37 | Korben | how those the ui scal thing work |
03:47.02 | aestil | NightHawkTheSan1: after five talents to crit, and 2 in imp earth strenght totem, how do i get down to the next tier? |
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03:48.08 | NightHawkTheSan1 | aestil: 1 point in 2h maces/axes and i like 2 points in imp. ghost wolf. |
03:48.15 | NightHawkTheSan1 | 1s ghost wolf is teh sex. |
03:49.36 | starlon | How long does it usually take for an SVN account to be approved? |
03:49.48 | ulic | depends on how busy the admin is |
03:49.57 | ulic | I caught him on vacation took me over a week :P |
03:50.05 | starlon | ouch |
03:50.07 | aestil | i don't really plan on pvp much, but i suppose you're right. |
03:50.25 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I found it handy just in general |
03:51.12 | aestil | 2h axes and maces... thats coming just for free in 2.3? |
03:51.28 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah |
03:51.43 | NightHawkTheSan1 | at which point the talent that replaces it will be worth picking up |
03:51.55 | NightHawkTheSan1 | and until 2.3 it's worth having |
03:53.04 | Wobin | Xinhuan: do one for underscore |
03:53.17 | Wobin | I very much doubt you'll try to localise a string with an underscore in it |
03:53.31 | Wobin | and those you do, you can spot change |
03:53.44 | aestil | NightHawkTheSan1: what is replacing it? |
03:54.10 | Xinhuan | that would probably work |
03:55.06 | NightHawkTheSan1 | aestil: Shamanistic Focus, reduces the mana cost of your next shock by 60% after a crit. |
03:55.17 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: your 52734 commit earlier looks like it has a wrong dir layout for /branches/ (i.e. no branch name) |
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03:55.17 | Wobin | so perhaps... :g/"[^_]":/ copy $ | s /("[^_]")/L["\1"]/ |
03:55.39 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz: when i created that folder, i did not realise the folder has to be 2 layers deep |
03:55.43 | Xinhuan | i considered it unnecessary |
03:56.09 | Xinhuan | i.e /branches/wowequip/xinhuan as opposed to /branches/wowequip directly |
03:56.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah I don't know if it's required or anything, I just noticed the absence of the orange-coloured branch name in the CIA spam =) |
03:56.32 | Xinhuan | cia couldn't parse the extra level for the orange text |
03:56.35 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r52743 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
03:56.35 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
03:56.35 | CIA-12 | -Added Hot Apple Cider to cooking (new Christmas cooking recipe) |
03:56.45 | aestil | wow. |
03:56.58 | aestil | NightHawkTheSan1: rockbiter > flametongue? |
03:57.01 | Xinhuan | not that it really matters since i dont think there is even a standard for it |
03:57.12 | Xinhuan | on wowace svn |
03:57.12 | NightHawkTheSan1 | aestil: generally yes |
03:57.29 | NightHawkTheSan1 | they probably come out close to the same that early, though *shrug* |
03:57.44 | NightHawkTheSan1 | and of course, once you get it, wf > * |
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04:06.14 | CIA-12 | 03zuno 07v2.0 * r52744 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/ (53 files in 15 dirs): |
04:06.14 | CIA-12 | UnitActionBars: |
04:06.14 | CIA-12 | - Initial radical v2.0 codebase changes (not yet completely checked in). Need to move some files and folders around. |
04:07.24 | CIA-12 | 03zuno 07v2.0 * r52745 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/ (Config/ cfgdlg/): |
04:07.24 | CIA-12 | UnitActionBars: |
04:07.24 | CIA-12 | - Renamed to Config to follow consistent naming for sub-modules. |
04:08.06 | CIA-12 | 03zuno 07v2.0 * r52746 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/Config/ (Config.xml cfgdlg.xml): |
04:08.06 | CIA-12 | UnitActionBars: |
04:08.06 | CIA-12 | - Renamed to Config.xml to be consistent with sub-module name. |
04:08.52 | CIA-12 | 03zuno 07v2.0 * r52747 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/ (StatusBasic/uabStatus_Default.lua uabStatus_Default.lua): |
04:08.52 | CIA-12 | UnitActionBars: |
04:08.52 | CIA-12 | - Moved to base add-on so that the default settings are always available. |
04:09.08 | Zhinjio | quick question. does the value of "this" always take on the value of the last assignment or object creation or what? |
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04:10.49 | Nargiddley | it has no meaning in straight lua, its a blizzard thing. its the frame/object that the current event handler is for |
04:11.06 | Zhinjio | ah. |
04:11.56 | Nargiddley | which is also passed as the first arg to the events function, the parameter is what you should be using |
04:12.05 | CIA-12 | 03zuno 07v2.0 * r52748 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/Config/ (4 files): |
04:12.05 | CIA-12 | UnitActionBars: |
04:12.05 | CIA-12 | - Removed unused files, and added TOC file for new sub-module (Config). |
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04:17.47 | starlon | o.O |
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04:32.38 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT. |
04:32.53 | aestil | he had to come to irc, to ask, if xperl unit frames is what he wants? how are we supposed to know that what he wants is xperl unit frams? |
04:33.25 | Gnarfoz | happens |
04:33.47 | Gnarfoz | now to waste 50gigs of bw |
04:34.20 | CIA-12 | 03candykiss * r52749 10ClosetGnome/locales/zhCN.lua: ClosetGnome: zhCN updated |
04:39.05 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r52750 10/branches/WoWEquip/localization.lua: WoWEquip: - Splitting up the data and localization - Part 3. |
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04:42.07 | CIA-12 | 03zuno 07v2.0 * r52751 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars/Config/Config.xml: |
04:42.07 | CIA-12 | UnitActionBars: |
04:42.07 | CIA-12 | - Fixed the Config.xml file to contain the new (instead of old) contents. |
04:45.01 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52752 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints.lua: |
04:45.01 | CIA-12 | BasicComboPoints: |
04:45.01 | CIA-12 | - works for druids now also :) |
04:45.01 | CIA-12 | - better way of hiding 0 CP |
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04:48.38 | Hjalte | Haha. My human warrior on the PTR is missing his left leg :P |
04:48.46 | Godzmack | lul |
04:53.02 | infuse | what are some good druid mods |
04:53.24 | Orionshock | infuse: BT3, Clique, and a good raid frame |
04:55.38 | NightHawkTheSan1 | a gear set mod like itemrack or closetgnome is good too |
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05:03.48 | Toadkiller | if u heal u should get grid |
05:04.02 | Toadkiller | + a bunch of grid modules |
05:04.14 | Toadkiller | O h yeah and druidstats |
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05:04.49 | Orionshock | grid ... |
05:04.59 | Orionshock | x-perl's raid frames are better IMHO |
05:05.52 | Toadkiller | do they automatically cluster together? |
05:06.02 | Orionshock | no |
05:06.09 | Orionshock | & personaly i don't want em to |
05:06.22 | Toadkiller | I do. I dont want to screw with layout |
05:06.52 | Toadkiller | I would reccomend pitbull for untiframes |
05:07.40 | Toadkiller | It seems to see more development than the other ace unitframes |
05:07.47 | Zhinjio | so if you were to display an arbitrary number of users in a text list in a GUI somehow, what do you think is simplest? |
05:08.09 | Zhinjio | realistically, it will be a list of maybe 10 toons or so. But theoretically: arbitrary number |
05:08.40 | Toadkiller | Use Tablet? |
05:09.11 | Zhinjio | I've not used that lib yet. lemme look it up. |
05:09.42 | Toadkiller | Or use waterfall or something like it since it has scrolling for your edge case that is too big |
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05:10.13 | Toadkiller | You can feed it a custom list that is not an aceoptions list as well. |
05:11.06 | Zhinjio | and it displays how? LIke a dropdown or something? |
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05:11.30 | Nargiddley | waterfall is not designed for displaying things, al atll |
05:11.36 | starlon | Is the embeds.xml file something that the scripts put together, or do I maintain that? |
05:11.36 | Nargiddley | *at all |
05:11.36 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r52753 10BigWigs/ (15 files in 6 dirs): |
05:11.36 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
05:11.36 | CIA-12 | - zhCN updated |
05:12.12 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r52754 10LittleWigs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
05:12.12 | CIA-12 | LittleWigs: |
05:12.12 | CIA-12 | - zhCN updated |
05:12.13 | Zhinjio | my impression was waterfall was for turning aceoptions config tables into a screen (non-menu) based configurator |
05:12.29 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r52755 10AuldLangSyne/Note/ (Note.lua enUS.lua): |
05:12.29 | CIA-12 | AuldLangSyne: |
05:12.29 | CIA-12 | -Note: Put "edit note" in the right-click menu for players. |
05:12.49 | Nargiddley | doesnt have to come from an aceoptions table, but yeah |
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05:13.04 | Zhinjio | I don't see tablet documented on wowace. |
05:13.09 | Zhinjio | I guess I'll dig into its code. |
05:13.13 | Nargiddley | tablet is for tooltip type displays with tabular like data |
05:13.26 | Kemayo | Zhinjio: http://wowace.com/wiki/Tablet-2.0 |
05:14.03 | Zhinjio | aha. |
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05:14.07 | Kemayo | It doesn't take all that much work to just use a ScrollingMessageFrame, mind. |
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05:14.17 | Bejitt | looking for it in the API Doc category? :P |
05:14.25 | Kemayo | If, as you said, it's a plain text list. |
05:14.32 | Zhinjio | so you can make a little anchored tootip when you hover over some element or something |
05:14.40 | Orionshock | tablet is good for information display, has very few "config" methods |
05:15.06 | Zhinjio | yeah, I don't have to select anything or have any "execute" methods on the list. just displayu |
05:15.14 | Kemayo | If you want a cute anchored tooltip it might be easist to just use GameTooltip. |
05:15.33 | Funkeh` | GameTooltip ftw |
05:15.57 | Zhinjio | can you override the anchoring of the gametooltip and have it display at the cursor? |
05:16.31 | Funkeh` | um |
05:16.34 | Funkeh` | not sure actually |
05:16.58 | Funkeh` | I think you can but don't take my word for it |
05:17.03 | Zhinjio | I think you must be able to ... since things like weapon/item displays do. |
05:17.11 | Zhinjio | unless thats a different "global" tooltip |
05:17.50 | Kemayo | GameTooltip:SetAnchor(frame, "ANCHOR_TOPRIGHT", x, y) |
05:17.55 | Kemayo | http://wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_SetOwner |
05:19.39 | Kemayo | (Specifically, ANCHOR_CURSOR.) |
05:25.24 | Zhinjio | so if I'm understanding this right, I could have a tablet:open() in an OnEnter event for some frame (button, whatever), and the close() for OnLeave |
05:25.33 | Zhinjio | simulating a tooltip type disply |
05:26.16 | Kemayo | Yup. |
05:26.23 | Zhinjio | that would work. |
05:26.37 | Zhinjio | ScrollingMessageFrames are frightening, Kemayo |
05:26.39 | Zhinjio | heh |
05:26.57 | Mudkipz | gah |
05:27.00 | Kemayo | Here, a totally lua one: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LodWhat/core.lua :D |
05:27.04 | Mudkipz | what's the command to remove your vhost ?? |
05:27.10 | Orionshock | SMF - is that what FCF is based on? |
05:28.18 | Zhinjio | right... skeeeery |
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05:39.44 | NightHawkTheSan1 | "Okay people, I'm starting to develop some serious abandonment issues here!" |
05:43.25 | Mudkipz | ? |
05:43.45 | NightHawkTheSan1 | sg:a |
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05:45.17 | Toadkiller | Your mods are abandoned? |
05:45.42 | Borked|Raider | "Of course, the ["data"] sub-table would only show up as "table: XXXXXXXX" (a reference to a table) "-> is there a way to look up that table with ref xxxxx? |
05:45.57 | Nargiddley | nope |
05:46.00 | Borked|Raider | oki |
05:49.07 | Orionshock | dosn't it mean that that it's a function not an actual table? |
05:49.17 | Nargiddley | no |
05:49.58 | Nargiddley | tostring(table) -> "table: XXXXXXXX" tostring(function) -> "function: XXXXXXXX" |
05:52.15 | Zhinjio | Can y'all point me to an addon that uses tablet so I can see some examples? |
05:52.57 | Orionshock | fubar |
05:53.29 | Orionshock | fubar_* |
05:53.54 | Orionshock | mine has a really simple one in it |
05:53.59 | Orionshock | _ReportAFK |
05:54.12 | NightHawkTheSan1 | "What is it with you and ascended women?" |
05:55.39 | Toadkiller | Mememe: Ok Alex, final answer: "What is Stargate SG1?" |
05:56.37 | NightHawkTheSan1 | ooh, so close, and yet so far. |
05:57.02 | Nargiddley | wrong galaxy for one |
05:57.05 | Orionshock | SGA |
05:57.22 | Toadkiller | Ascended chicks in Atlantis too? |
05:57.32 | NightHawkTheSan1 | quite a few |
05:57.44 | Toadkiller | Dont recall but I missed last year... |
05:57.57 | NightHawkTheSan1 | theres an entire village in s2, and a chick in s1. |
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05:58.40 | Nargiddley | i'm still back in s6 sg1 |
05:59.43 | Toadkiller | THat the one with Farscape people? |
05:59.53 | Funkeh` | wow |
06:00.00 | NightHawkTheSan1 | no, ben browder and claudia black don't show up until s9 of sg1 |
06:00.02 | Nargiddley | thats 9 i thiknk, this is the one with jonas |
06:00.05 | Funkeh` | I've been throuigh all 10 seasons too many times to mention :x |
06:00.16 | Toadkiller | Damn, right its been on for quite some time now |
06:00.28 | Toadkiller | Never cared for Jonas |
06:00.35 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I liked jonas, actually |
06:00.47 | Funkeh` | me too |
06:01.08 | Toadkiller | I miss Farscape |
06:01.17 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah :( |
06:01.19 | Funkeh` | I hated how they ended the episode with hes uni lecturer, made him crazy, would have been better if there actually was a resistance |
06:01.35 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I should rewatch farscape at some point. I should also see if i can download some nice rips |
06:01.52 | Toadkiller | <PROTECTED> |
06:02.04 | Toadkiller | Same with battlestar |
06:02.06 | Nargiddley | i'll probably hit s7 tomorrow at this rate |
06:02.17 | Toadkiller | dvds nar? |
06:02.24 | Nargiddley | yeah |
06:02.33 | NightHawkTheSan1 | seven is good. eight... is okay. |
06:02.47 | Nargiddley | still havent seen 10, working my way up to it |
06:02.50 | Toadkiller | Mmm, a buddy of mines wife has Chinese connections... but damn the quality is not here sometimes |
06:03.01 | Toadkiller | *there |
06:03.08 | NightHawkTheSan1 | 9 and 10 are real hit and miss. The individual episode are pretty good, but the arc story is just terrible. :\ |
06:03.22 | Toadkiller | THe Orai? |
06:03.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I think it's "Ori", but yes. |
06:03.53 | Funkeh` | WHen the fuck ar ethey releaseing the sg1 movie |
06:03.55 | Toadkiller | THey were kinda badass but yeah the resolution seemed inferior |
06:04.00 | Funkeh` | I hope they give the Ori a proper ending |
06:04.10 | NightHawkTheSan1 | there was NO resolution. :P the series just stopped. |
06:04.32 | Toadkiller | It was a really nice concept though. |
06:04.47 | kebinusan | I was a bit annoyed scifi canceled the dresden files |
06:04.48 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Eh, it had its moments, but it was pretty belabored. |
06:04.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Wait, they cancelled dresden files? dammit! |
06:05.00 | kebinusan | but kept who wants to be a super hero and the other crap |
06:05.13 | Toadkiller | Why isnt scifi running battlestar reruns right now. I have a whole season to catch up on damit |
06:05.13 | kebinusan | NightHawk, yeah |
06:05.17 | NightHawkTheSan1 | bah, that was good. :( |
06:05.55 | kebinusan | Yeah it had charm |
06:06.17 | Toadkiller | mmm never saw that. Not some mystical bs was it? |
06:07.09 | Toadkiller | My stomach churns each time my tivo sits there watching ghost hunters or some crap |
06:07.29 | Toadkiller | Its worse than when it watches infomercials |
06:07.32 | kebinusan | hehe |
06:09.03 | Toadkiller | Any one watching bionic woman? |
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06:09.23 | Fin | yes |
06:09.27 | Fin | love it |
06:09.35 | Toadkiller | YEah esp having KAra THrace in it |
06:09.42 | Fin | she gives me the horn |
06:09.49 | Fin | no wait |
06:09.53 | Toadkiller | Totally & shes damn hot in that |
06:10.02 | Fin | she only gives me the semihorn |
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06:10.12 | Fin | a biiiit of a cliche, but I can deal with that |
06:10.23 | Toadkiller | Man true horn was the Ships Avatar in Andromeda |
06:10.34 | Fin | oh lordy lordy |
06:10.42 | Fin | excuse me, I shall be back in a second |
06:10.58 | Toadkiller | lol make sure u have kleenex handy! |
06:11.03 | Fin | just off for a quick five knuckle shuffle |
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06:16.13 | starlon | Is the embeds.xml file something that the wowace scripts put together, or do I maintain that? |
06:16.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you need to maintain that |
06:17.23 | starlon | It's edited for no externals, so wasn't sure |
06:18.09 | NightHawkTheSan1 | yeah, i believe the zip script edits the file for the no-external builds |
06:18.31 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r52756 10SimpleCombatLog/locales/localization-koKR.lua: |
06:18.31 | CIA-12 | SimpleCombatLog: |
06:18.31 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
06:22.04 | Orionshock | curse down? |
06:26.26 | Diao | yay |
06:26.31 | Diao | panzar'thar finally dropped off nightbane |
06:26.35 | Diao | finally an upgrade to my jadeskull |
06:30.11 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r52757 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-koKR.lua: |
06:30.11 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
06:30.11 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
06:30.29 | Borked|Raider | how is it posible to draw graphs in wow/lua? thinking of recount here. is it alot of dots combined? |
06:30.44 | Orionshock | ? |
06:30.48 | the-golem | lol |
06:30.55 | Orionshock | WIM built on Dongle? |
06:31.10 | the-golem | Borked|Raider: no, i very much doubt it |
06:31.39 | Borked|Raider | i just never seen anything like that in the wow UI API that should make it posible to draw a graph |
06:31.50 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r52758 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
06:31.50 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceGUI: Fix dropdowns text not showing when first created |
06:31.50 | CIA-12 | AceConfigDialog: type = 'select' calls set/get functions |
06:31.53 | the-golem | depending on if WoWLua can use regular Lua modules, it might be Lua-GD |
06:32.00 | the-golem | or sumpin |
06:32.11 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you could look at the code and see? :P |
06:32.15 | Borked|Raider | :) |
06:32.17 | Borked|Raider | i could |
06:32.25 | Borked|Raider | but then i wouldnt get the debate out of it! |
06:32.35 | NightHawkTheSan1 | what's to debate? |
06:32.43 | the-golem | its definately lua based |
06:32.59 | Borked|Raider | dont think you can load modues for use in wow the-golem, maybe |
06:34.15 | the-golem | i dont see why not |
06:34.24 | the-golem | except for if they dont use *standard* lua |
06:35.01 | Borked|Raider | well, aint the GUI avalible limeted to what blizzard alow us? |
06:35.14 | chexsum | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoord |
06:35.52 | CIA-12 | 03babu 07babu * r52759 10TrainingWheels/TrainingWheels/TrainingWheels.lua: |
06:35.52 | CIA-12 | TrainingWheels: |
06:35.52 | CIA-12 | - Refactored the code a bit. Still got some left to do. |
06:36.19 | chexsum | or http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations |
06:36.44 | the-golem | nifty |
06:36.59 | the-golem | *sigh* |
06:37.14 | the-golem | eePanels needs a way to dynamically add non-image borders |
06:37.30 | the-golem | i havent tred eePanels2 tho :-/ |
06:37.34 | Provus | What eepanels need is a way to change the strata of panels individually instead of globally. |
06:37.55 | the-golem | Provus: you can already, i think |
06:38.08 | the-golem | i swear i jsut saw that |
06:38.35 | Provus | You sure? I couldn't find a way to do it. |
06:38.58 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
06:40.33 | Orionshock | Provus: try doing a :SetStrata() on the eepanel |
06:41.17 | the-golem | Provus: yeah lemme check |
06:41.23 | the-golem | or what Orionshock said |
06:41.53 | the-golem | is eePanels2 much better than eePanels1? |
06:43.41 | the-golem | maybe i can just make image borders |
06:43.59 | the-golem | itd be better than creating a new eepanel for each side |
06:44.18 | Toadkiller | what the hell is eepanels? |
06:44.28 | Toadkiller | <-- too lazy to read the wiki |
06:44.49 | the-golem | <-- too lazy to look it up for you |
06:44.55 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r52760 10AuldLangSyne/Note/koKR.lua: |
06:44.55 | CIA-12 | AuldLangSyne: |
06:44.55 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
06:45.05 | the-golem | purl: eepanels? |
06:45.09 | the-golem | er |
06:45.11 | chexsum | i think it makes programmable frames |
06:45.11 | the-golem | wrong bot |
06:45.23 | chexsum | scriptable ... |
06:45.43 | chexsum | ~eepanels |
06:47.12 | Toadkiller | Yeah jsut wondering, some poor sap had a docking thing working in the old AutoBar just as I released the new one. |
06:47.26 | Toadkiller | Saw the post in a search |
06:47.41 | Orionshock | &? |
06:50.31 | Toadkiller | Didnt look any further into what eepanels was all about |
06:51.05 | Toadkiller | Too lazy then & too lazy now. So its a way to wrangle & dock all your bars & stuff together? |
06:52.19 | the-golem | yes and no |
06:52.36 | Toadkiller | Tack on extra crap you want? |
06:52.57 | Toadkiller | Spruce up someone elses cruddy frames? |
06:52.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | it's basically just graphical sugar |
06:53.06 | Toadkiller | K |
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06:53.15 | the-golem | firstly eePanels provides *uniform* background for stuff, plus you can script indidual panels slightly |
06:53.16 | the-golem | like |
06:53.16 | NightHawkTheSan1 | frames you can create and anchor whrever you want, more or less |
06:53.27 | Toadkiller | Oh shit, I finally cleaned up button moves... |
06:53.42 | the-golem | put a panel behind omen that shows up and disappears when omen does |
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06:59.31 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r52761 10AutoBar/ (7 files): (log message trimmed) |
06:59.31 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
06:59.32 | CIA-12 | -- 2.02.03.14 beta () |
06:59.32 | CIA-12 | -- Fix button rearranging via waterfall options |
06:59.32 | CIA-12 | -- Add "Move the Buttons" option (ctrl-click AutoBar icon). Allows direct drag & drop of buttons on the bar. |
06:59.32 | CIA-12 | -- In "Move the Buttons" mode the tooltip is the Button name |
06:59.34 | CIA-12 | -- Make a Bar's rows * columns limit number of active Buttons displayed. |
07:08.32 | CIA-12 | 03vincent * r52762 10WeaponRebuff/Readme.txt: |
07:08.32 | CIA-12 | WeaponRebuff: |
07:08.32 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
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07:11.31 | the-golem | lol |
07:11.34 | the-golem | s'matter? |
07:11.35 | Bejitt | eh? |
07:15.38 | Orionshock | the term "spamy as fuck" comes to mind |
07:16.07 | Bejitt | comm channel? |
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07:16.30 | Orionshock | Recount does a Live Synch in and out of combat |
07:16.36 | Orionshock | and that's bad |
07:16.46 | Bejitt | or.. the 2k dps -> ooc when doing live dps meter |
07:16.48 | Bejitt | ahh |
07:17.22 | Orionshock | there is absolutely no reason for it to sync in combat |
07:17.47 | CIA-12 | 03babu 07babu * r52763 10TrainingWheels/TrainingWheels/TrainingWheels.lua: |
07:17.47 | CIA-12 | TrainingWheels: |
07:17.47 | CIA-12 | - Some changes while refactoring. Code not stable yet... |
07:18.37 | Orionshock | that and the large the string is that's sent - the more lag it can induce |
07:25.57 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r52764 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
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07:33.54 | Provus | Does anyone know of an alternative to TrinketMenu? |
07:34.13 | Provus | TrinketMenu's functionality is nice but I really hate the ugly buttons. |
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07:51.44 | Diao | use trinketmenu with cycircled? |
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08:18.19 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r52765 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: -- Changing the following line to using a plain text find. I don't beleive you should need regex for this particular segment |
08:33.33 | annuits | can any one here help me again? |
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08:34.54 | annuits | please? |
08:35.35 | cryogen | ckknight: ping |
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08:37.25 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
08:37.44 | cryogen | morning |
08:38.25 | cncfanatics | <3 dreamlayout |
08:38.32 | cryogen | yeah |
08:38.32 | cryogen | but |
08:38.34 | cryogen | its too dark |
08:39.31 | cncfanatics | that got fixed yesterday |
08:39.34 | cncfanatics | did u even bother to update ? :p |
08:40.00 | cryogen | im up to date as of this morning.. |
08:40.01 | Orionshock | annuits |
08:40.04 | Orionshock | ~asktoask |
08:40.05 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
08:41.07 | cncfanatics | then it shouldn't be dark, cryogen |
08:41.11 | cryogen | cncfanatics: im fully up to date, di dyou even submit it? :p |
08:41.17 | cryogen | dreamlayout only has one revision on the svn |
08:41.35 | cncfanatics | hmmm, seems I didn't -.- |
08:41.58 | cryogen | ~fail cncfanatics |
08:41.58 | purl | cncfanatics: Fail. |
08:42.01 | annuits | i think iv done my ui |
08:42.01 | annuits | ;o |
08:42.51 | annuits | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7665/naturalpv1.jpg |
08:42.57 | annuits | im mainly holy tho. |
08:43.30 | Orionshock | eeeww Default UnitFrames |
08:43.34 | Orionshock | get rid of em |
08:44.17 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r52766 10FlexBar2_DreamLayout/DreamLayout.lua: FlexBar2_DreamLayout: Stop making the buttons darker with the backdrop |
08:44.21 | cncfanatics | there you go cryogen |
08:44.53 | annuits | orion what do you think i should get? |
08:45.17 | annuits | and orion what sever do you play on? |
08:45.41 | Orionshock | annuits: how much configuration do you want to do? |
08:45.55 | Orionshock | im on Nagrand-US/Oce |
08:46.16 | annuits | wat do u mean |
08:47.01 | Provus | Hey fanatics. |
08:47.31 | cncfanatics | its cnc, or evolve, not fanatics please :p |
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08:47.34 | Provus | Dreamlayout's launch sequence is perfect, it gets every button where it should be magically placing that 1 pixel space everywhere, but it doesn't do it quite right with the line command. |
08:47.49 | cncfanatics | shouldn't matter |
08:47.53 | cncfanatics | what result u get with line ? |
08:48.19 | Provus | Well, WoW's scaling system is 'special'. There's probably nothing you can do it about it, there were just some buttons that were too close to other buttons |
08:48.38 | cncfanatics | lemme check |
08:48.43 | cncfanatics | scale should work fine the way I coded it -.- |
08:48.46 | Provus | I deleted a few buttons and when I remade them at the same scale I had the misfortune of finding that they didn't match their brothers and sisters. |
08:49.06 | Provus | Most likely because the line command puts them on a fractional x and y axis. |
08:49.17 | annuits | http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/8686/princeg3wi4.jpg wat unit frames is that |
08:49.29 | cncfanatics | line works fine for me |
08:49.35 | Provus | I zoomed in with paint and found that there was a mix of buttons at 31x32, 32x31, and 32x32 |
08:49.45 | Orionshock | annuits: that could be anything from AG_UF to pit bull |
08:49.45 | cncfanatics | there was ? :o |
08:49.49 | Provus | Yes. |
08:50.01 | cncfanatics | every button is created the exact same way |
08:50.08 | cncfanatics | if they're not the same something's wrong with WoW :p |
08:50.18 | Provus | Like I said, I suspect it's because they're on fractional x and y axises. |
08:50.21 | Orionshock | looks like pitbull tbh |
08:50.24 | Provus | They're not really different sizes. |
08:50.31 | annuits | hnn |
08:50.32 | cncfanatics | indeed, could be |
08:50.35 | annuits | wats a good one for a healer? |
08:50.36 | cncfanatics | nearly sure even :p |
08:50.56 | cncfanatics | Provus, with /fb line I supose there could be a 0.5px difference |
08:50.56 | Bejitt | annuits: i think that's PitBull, but really really configured differently from the default |
08:50.58 | Provus | This is my button 54, for instance. |
08:50.59 | Provus | ["Y"] = 32.5644129709558, |
08:50.59 | Provus | ["X"] = 567.9868868089543, |
08:51.03 | Orionshock | annuits: it's personal preferance really - if you want something functional out of the box - try X-perl or AG_UF |
08:51.04 | cncfanatics | ya |
08:51.07 | cncfanatics | here's how to solve this |
08:51.12 | Orionshock | if you want something overly complicated use PitBull |
08:51.13 | cncfanatics | line up all ur buttons with one command |
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08:51.22 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
08:51.29 | Provus | That's what I did. I still had to seperate some buttons, however. |
08:51.35 | annuits | pitbull easy to setup? |
08:52.03 | Bejitt | annuits: if you' |
08:52.03 | cncfanatics | meh, damn fractional axisses I guess |
08:52.12 | cncfanatics | Provus, can u screenshot it ?K |
08:52.13 | Provus | I wish WoW didn't have a retarded UI scale system. |
08:52.21 | Provus | Sec. |
08:52.21 | Bejitt | s/if you'/if you're a masochist? maybe/ |
08:52.29 | annuits | lol. |
08:52.33 | Provus | Let me backup my flexbar LUA now that everything is perfect again. |
08:52.35 | annuits | what about if im a idiot. :p |
08:52.47 | annuits | i cant find PitBull on curse.com |
08:52.48 | annuits | --- |
08:53.27 | Orionshock | annuits: it's here on the AceSVN |
08:53.34 | Bejitt | you're more than likely to find it on wowace.com |
08:53.36 | Orionshock | files.wowace.com/PitBull/PitBull.zip |
08:54.42 | cncfanatics | Provus, I code around the system, so it shouldn't effect you at all :/ |
08:54.48 | cncfanatics | think the problem is that WoW rounds coordinates at some point |
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08:57.57 | Bejitt | speaking of pitbull... is there a way to attach one frame to another? |
08:58.13 | Bejitt | like attaching the Pet to the bottom of Player |
08:58.20 | Orionshock | Bejitt: b/c they're based on secure frames that idea is a bad one |
08:58.26 | Bejitt | kk |
08:59.26 | cncfanatics | don't anchor secure frames together indeed, bad idea :p |
08:59.56 | Bejitt | just thought it would be nice :D |
09:00.14 | Bejitt | instead of moving them pixel by pixel w/ mouse ;( |
09:00.16 | Orionshock | well |
09:00.27 | Orionshock | only anchor secure frames to each other as part of a cluster |
09:01.05 | cncfanatics | I do it for groups of buttons in flexbar, but thats it |
09:01.39 | Orionshock | that's ok, and what Bejitt wanted was ok |
09:02.15 | Fisker- | anyone know how i can fix the loot box stretching in xloot? |
09:02.36 | annuits | onve i change my userframes wil my ui be good? |
09:04.11 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52767 10SmartyCatManaBar/SmartyCatManaBar-zhTW.lua: |
09:04.12 | CIA-12 | SmartyCatManaBar: |
09:04.12 | CIA-12 | -Update zhTW translation. |
09:04.20 | Orionshock | annuits: good is a relitive term |
09:04.52 | Orionshock | Fisker-: turn off autoloot for a second - and drag the frame to the far left side of the screen |
09:04.56 | Orionshock | it's a tem fix - |
09:05.13 | Orionshock | it's caused when the frame touches the edge of the screen |
09:05.57 | annuits | oi this pitball is hard |
09:06.01 | annuits | every thing is faded |
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09:06.26 | Orionshock | combat fader and range checker |
09:06.43 | annuits | im not in combat |
09:06.44 | annuits | im at org |
09:07.00 | Orionshock | combat fader turns the alpha down while not in combat |
09:07.22 | Orionshock | i don't like it personaly so i have it off |
09:07.53 | Provus | Okay cnc I got the screenshot. |
09:07.55 | annuits | how do i do that |
09:08.28 | Orionshock | ckknight: note to ckknight put in better defaults for pit bull :P |
09:08.30 | Provus | http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07420/dreamlayoutproblems.PNG |
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09:08.50 | Orionshock | Config > Modules |
09:09.07 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/pooh-screenie.jpg |
09:09.29 | annuits | rofl |
09:09.34 | annuits | can u really do that art? |
09:09.34 | Orionshock | i have Banzai / Combat Fader / Xp Bar / Highlight / Interact Lines / Portrait / rep bar / rest icon / and threat off |
09:09.43 | art3mis | do what? |
09:09.53 | Orionshock | art3mis: ... WOW |
09:09.59 | Orionshock | that's wrong on so many lvls |
09:10.11 | art3mis | no orion |
09:10.27 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg <-- THAT is wrong |
09:10.42 | art3mis | pooh is just moderately wrong ;P |
09:10.49 | annuits | ffs bitball is hard |
09:10.55 | annuits | im gonna use the normal unitframes |
09:11.05 | Orionshock | art3mis: yes that is much worse |
09:11.09 | Orionshock | annuits: try X-Perl |
09:11.18 | Orionshock | it's more or less useable out of the box |
09:11.49 | annuits | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg LOL |
09:12.09 | art3mis | cehck wowinterface.com annuits ;) |
09:12.17 | art3mis | just look for hello kitty ;) |
09:12.34 | art3mis | winnie the poog is the new one im doing |
09:12.35 | annuits | who would make that UI |
09:12.36 | annuits | LOL |
09:12.38 | art3mis | <--- |
09:13.50 | art3mis | and the winnie the pooh ui is my present ui |
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09:14.33 | Provus | I think the only real problem with Pitbull is the way it positions auras. That needs improvement. |
09:15.13 | Bejitt | heh yea, like putting debuffs to the left |
09:15.21 | Bejitt | they go wayyyyy left |
09:16.04 | Orionshock | http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_102107_021522.jpg |
09:16.12 | Orionshock | that's mine - in config mod oFC |
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09:16.29 | Bejitt | where are the pitbull bar positions defined? is that the layout stuff orrrr...? |
09:16.55 | Orionshock | ya layout.. sorta |
09:17.01 | Bejitt | haha |
09:17.10 | art3mis | you should get minibuttonbar orion |
09:17.18 | Orionshock | each unit group can have it's own layout |
09:17.23 | Orionshock | art3mis: i like it on my MM |
09:17.29 | art3mis | is that bottom part viewported? or just overlayed |
09:17.31 | Orionshock | im not OCD like some ppl |
09:17.44 | Orionshock | skinner actualy |
09:17.51 | art3mis | Orionshock: it stays on yer minimap it just condenses into 1 button instead fo 15 |
09:17.57 | art3mis | so overlayed |
09:18.09 | annuits | oi u guys on your sever or severs |
09:18.13 | annuits | do people link the natural ward alot |
09:18.17 | annuits | its the crazy for the year on mine :p |
09:18.37 | Orionshock | i use skinner to put the bottom frame there |
09:19.16 | Lukian | annuits, The Natural Ward > Band of Cenarius. |
09:19.33 | annuits | wats band of cenarius? |
09:19.44 | Lukian | look it up on wowhead |
09:20.10 | annuits | pre tbc aq40 :p |
09:20.27 | annuits | but every one keeps linkg it and the gms ban people for spmin it |
09:20.28 | annuits | so funny |
09:20.33 | Lukian | lol |
09:21.08 | annuits | its the crazy on my realm :p |
09:21.19 | Lukian | colloquially I think it signifies a mark of achievement and it also held the status of best NR ring in the game |
09:21.24 | annuits | thank god i have lootlink i randomly link it at like 4am and every one starts linking it |
09:21.36 | Lukian | ew lootlink :p |
09:22.20 | annuits | si |
09:22.25 | annuits | its the best way to start crap on my sever :p |
09:22.29 | annuits | wats itemsync |
09:22.47 | Lukian | a 'better' item database :p |
09:23.01 | Ra1d3n | depending on your viewpoint |
09:23.25 | annuits | my priests name is natural thats why i link the natural ward |
09:23.26 | Orionshock | http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_102107_022327.jpg |
09:23.28 | Orionshock | me in combat |
09:23.34 | annuits | http://wowhead.com/?search=natural my name pwnns |
09:24.04 | Ra1d3n | my eyes burn |
09:24.08 | Ra1d3n | Orionshock |
09:24.17 | Lukian | Orionshock, screenspace much? |
09:24.25 | annuits | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7946/naturalxu6.jpg me in org :p |
09:24.26 | Ra1d3n | gonna sue you for causing physical pain |
09:24.49 | annuits | wow orion |
09:24.54 | Orionshock | i've got plenty of screen space |
09:24.58 | annuits | did u make all that |
09:25.06 | Orionshock | ya |
09:25.14 | sbingner | what's withthe red/green/blue circle stuff |
09:25.15 | annuits | wtf how do u make all the bottom black |
09:25.20 | Lukian | eepanels2 |
09:25.22 | Orionshock | skinner |
09:25.29 | annuits | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7946/naturalxu6.jpg mine stil pwns. |
09:25.30 | Lukian | or that ^^ |
09:25.35 | Orionshock | sorry the idea behind eepanels2 is ... dumb |
09:25.57 | Lukian | I go minimalist, I don't use either |
09:26.10 | art3mis | Orionshock: yer not big on symmetry are ya ;P |
09:26.17 | Orionshock | symmetry? |
09:26.27 | Lukian | Arcaia, hahah :D |
09:26.31 | Lukian | art3mis* |
09:27.00 | Orionshock | not really - i can't get the xperl raid frames to center |
09:27.02 | Bejitt | sure he is, he has the circular hud :o |
09:27.20 | art3mis | heh or the casting bar to not overlap ;P |
09:27.24 | art3mis | haha |
09:27.42 | Orionshock | well the frames where moved arround for a 10 man raid - so in AV it's all fubared |
09:27.51 | Bejitt | you know, i just realized that people call that a HUD... but the entire UI is a HUD in the sense of the word(s) >_> |
09:27.51 | MoonWolf | Orionshock, OMG the blue |
09:27.59 | Orionshock | lol |
09:28.01 | art3mis | Orionshock: you should use perfect raid |
09:28.06 | art3mis | its so pertty ;P |
09:28.59 | MoonWolf | any dps class should at least use something smaller then ctraid, blizztracker or another one of those huge things |
09:29.05 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/pooh-screenie.jpg |
09:29.14 | MoonWolf | the orange! |
09:29.16 | MoonWolf | it burns |
09:29.19 | art3mis | bejitt: my last ui layout actually used ghud as the unit frames |
09:29.34 | Orionshock | well IRL calls - so i go |
09:29.36 | art3mis | with the 3d models as the "portrait" |
09:29.58 | art3mis | MoonWolf: yer just jealous ;P |
09:30.06 | MoonWolf | IT BURNS |
09:32.52 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r52768 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
09:32.52 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceGUI: Tweak layout code to be consistent over refreshes |
09:32.52 | CIA-12 | AceConfigDialog: Full refresh on each control activation |
09:32.52 | CIA-12 | - type = 'multiselect' support |
09:32.55 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r52769 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: DrDamage: Fix a bug with the flexbar subs |
09:34.49 | Provus | Cnc, are you back? I got that screenshot you wanted. |
09:34.55 | Provus | I made it pretty elaborate. |
09:35.10 | cncfanatics | I'm always here Provus :p |
09:35.14 | Provus | http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07420/dreamlayoutproblems.PNG |
09:36.03 | cncfanatics | can't do shit about that Provus |
09:36.26 | Provus | Alright. |
09:36.28 | cncfanatics | and ur probably the only person that will ever notice it :p |
09:36.55 | Provus | I would like your help on something. |
09:37.03 | cncfanatics | sure |
09:37.17 | Provus | In an effort to integrate Trinketmenu's ugly buttons I went out looking for a solution, |
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09:37.45 | charon | morning |
09:37.46 | Provus | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7361-2.html I found this and being the resourceful sort, I screwed around in the LUA until I figured out how to make the border go away. |
09:38.29 | Nargiddley | Provus: those things seem to get amplified in a scrollframe, waterfall has a habit of things dancing around when it does a refresh >< |
09:38.40 | Provus | The trinketmenu buttons I'm left with are very close to the scale of my flexbar buttons, but they are each a pixel off at where I want to put them, and I have no idea how to add that pixel appropiately. |
09:39.03 | Nargiddley | each control seems to get its own off my one error. Recycling them into new locations makes it look really bad :/ |
09:39.10 | Nargiddley | *by one |
09:39.40 | annuits | orion u are a healer yes? |
09:40.10 | Provus | I looked around in the LUA and XML files of TrinketMenu but I couldn't really find any indication of what controls the base scale size. |
09:41.00 | Provus | I don't really know what to look for. |
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09:43.34 | annuits | orion i dont know how u heal in that ui |
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09:45.21 | annuits | i just got this random error :S |
09:46.47 | annuits | i keep getting those pop up error mods things |
09:47.14 | the-golem | yay \o/ |
09:47.32 | the-golem | made a new border texture |
09:47.54 | the-golem | now i dont hafta do a painstaking eePanels setup |
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09:49.22 | Provus | Guess he's afk again |
09:50.20 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52770 10LittleWigs/ (29 files in 6 dirs): LittleWigs: Update zhTW translation. |
09:50.38 | Provus | Does anyone else know? |
09:51.31 | art3mis | Nargiddley: hows ace3 coming along btw? |
09:51.53 | the-golem | Provus: yeah i agree at teh scaling |
09:52.09 | the-golem | using halfpixels and shit |
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09:52.45 | Provus | Err, I want to know how I can make my trinketmenu buttons 1 pixel wider. |
09:52.51 | Provus | Through the LUA file. |
09:52.53 | Nargiddley | I can only speak for ConfigDialog, but going really well |
09:55.03 | Provus | Hmm, here's a line of code.. |
09:55.35 | annuits | wats frameXLM mean |
09:55.40 | annuits | its a thing comign up on wow all the time |
09:55.49 | Provus | local newscale = (cursorx-framex)/TrinketMenu.ScalingWidth |
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09:56.56 | Provus | Is there a way I can add like a +1 to the end of that? |
09:57.12 | CIA-12 | 03celellach * r52771 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
09:57.12 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
09:57.13 | CIA-12 | - Fixed typo in BT |
09:57.16 | annuits | is there any way to move my cast bar? |
09:57.16 | the-golem | you know |
09:57.20 | the-golem | i bet is a rounding issue |
09:58.12 | the-golem | Provus: try it? i dont use flexbar though |
09:58.25 | annuits | golem u good with UI's |
09:58.31 | Provus | It's trinketmenu |
09:58.36 | the-golem | oh sorry |
09:58.56 | Saroz | Is there an SVN browser somewhere? |
09:58.57 | the-golem | i was going off of the screen |
09:59.34 | the-golem | Provus: same kinda issue with OneBag having scaling problem |
09:59.34 | the-golem | s |
10:00.29 | annuits | golem how do i move my cast bar? |
10:00.37 | Orionshock | annuits: quartz |
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10:00.59 | the-golem | quartz, eCastbingbar .. couple others |
10:01.17 | the-golem | is eCastingbar still maintained? |
10:01.58 | annuits | and wats this message i keep getting |
10:02.01 | annuits | framesxlm or some thing |
10:02.09 | annuits | gametooltip |
10:02.24 | the-golem | i've no idea |
10:02.38 | the-golem | annuits : take a screen of the error and post it somewhere |
10:02.38 | annuits | dam it its pissing me off |
10:02.43 | annuits | here? :p |
10:03.03 | the-golem | i mean, upload the screenshot, and post the link to it ^^ |
10:03.17 | annuits | yea here? |
10:03.25 | the-golem | where else? |
10:03.46 | the-golem | lol ya here >< |
10:03.57 | Orionshock | where is LH hosted? |
10:04.08 | annuits | wowhead forums :p |
10:04.35 | the-golem | annuits: well, i dont read forums so ... |
10:05.03 | cladhaire | LH is on wowinterface.com |
10:05.05 | the-golem | s/forums/forums regularly/ |
10:05.12 | annuits | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7480/errorpu8.jpg |
10:05.22 | the-golem | hiya clad |
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10:05.44 | cladhaire | hi |
10:06.07 | annuits | i keep getting it |
10:06.08 | Orionshock | woah - it's one of clad's mods |
10:06.11 | annuits | its really tickin me off |
10:06.16 | Bejitt | ffs how do you disable the border on bartender's bars when you move them? |
10:06.47 | cladhaire | annuits: then you have an addon that is calling SetOwner with no args |
10:06.51 | cladhaire | or a nil arg |
10:06.52 | the-golem | noob question alert!! -- wtf does "ffs" stand for |
10:07.00 | annuits | i dont think i do. |
10:07.03 | cladhaire | for fucks's sake |
10:07.10 | annuits | LOL |
10:07.14 | the-golem | cladhaire: lol thanks |
10:07.17 | cladhaire | annuits: Yes.. you do.. that's the only reason you would be getting that error. |
10:07.19 | charon | "for x's sake", for 4-letter values of x |
10:07.24 | cladhaire | computers are deterministics |
10:07.27 | Orionshock | clad ... :D do you have an svn for LH? |
10:07.36 | Orionshock | a google svn? |
10:07.38 | cladhaire | Orionshock: actually, at the moment, no. |
10:07.45 | cladhaire | sign up as a favorite on wowinterfacec |
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10:07.52 | cladhaire | it gets updated once a week,a nd you'll get emailed when it does. |
10:07.54 | Orionshock | hehe.. WUU ftw |
10:07.56 | cladhaire | as per usual. |
10:07.58 | the-golem | tbh i thought it was the noise of someone sputtering |
10:08.57 | Orionshock | only reason i ask is i found the SVN part of WAU the other day... and i find it rather handy that it'll do an SVN update for any addons you have regardless where the repository is |
10:09.11 | cladhaire | Orionshock: well i dont at the moment |
10:09.30 | cladhaire | i hit the quota where i'm currently hosted. |
10:09.32 | cladhaire | and people shouldn't be using that one anyway |
10:09.37 | cladhaire | svn is for development, not distributino |
10:09.50 | the-golem | annuits: disable half your modules |
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10:10.00 | the-golem | if the error still exists, disable half more |
10:10.13 | Orionshock | clad true... but i think that argument has been beaten to death |
10:10.20 | cladhaire | I'm not arguing |
10:10.28 | cladhaire | I'm telling you how/when/where and why to download my addon |
10:10.29 | Orionshock | *true |
10:10.32 | cladhaire | Its still quite easy |
10:10.44 | cladhaire | if you use the SVN that exists for LightHeaded, you will get absolutely 0 updates |
10:10.59 | cladhaire | add as favorite, and download it weekly when I update :P |
10:11.12 | Orionshock | << has instinctual habit of playing devils advocate |
10:11.20 | the-golem | : lol |
10:11.29 | cladhaire | << is the author, and no amount of "opinion" will sway him :P |
10:11.43 | art3mis | sending clad gifts might help for faster updates though |
10:11.50 | cladhaire | nope, i update weekly |
10:12.04 | cladhaire | and i won't release anything that downloads everything and parses it for the user |
10:12.08 | cladhaire | becuse then the addon would be shut down entirely |
10:12.13 | art3mis | a sharp hammer blow to the skull once in a while "might" cure the stubbornness as well ;P |
10:12.13 | the-golem | but, clad will take ur gifts regardless :P |
10:12.20 | cladhaire | there's a calculated reason behind everything I do |
10:12.29 | cladhaire | the-golem: Only if they weren't given quid-pro-quo |
10:12.55 | art3mis | cladhaire: im going with the usual nerd response to that "because im stubborn and KNOW whats best" ;) |
10:12.58 | the-golem | thats why they are "gifts" and not "bribes", eh? |
10:13.27 | cladhaire | the-golem: Depends on who you ask.. campaign finance is full of "gifts" :P |
10:13.35 | art3mis | calculated reason == "because i said so" in nerd speak heh |
10:13.46 | cladhaire | no |
10:13.51 | the-golem | i agree with clad |
10:13.53 | art3mis | cladhaire: true but that does have some limits ;P |
10:13.54 | cladhaire | it means, flat out, that I know things you don't |
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10:14.11 | art3mis | and of course some loopholes |
10:14.25 | Orionshock | "it's mine, im going to do what i dam well please with it" |
10:14.32 | cladhaire | because I've had the conversations that were/are necessary |
10:14.40 | cladhaire | Orionshock: No, I never once said that |
10:14.44 | cladhaire | I'd say that about my other addons |
10:14.48 | Orionshock | said no... |
10:14.50 | Orionshock | no |
10:15.09 | cladhaire | but LightHeaded, the way I do things are very specific due to the addons relationship with WoWHead |
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10:15.13 | cladhaire | and the number of users I have |
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10:15.20 | Orionshock | don't need to, see if i start off understanding that "axiom" then i don't feel dissapointed when im told no |
10:15.41 | Orionshock | i have a very odd outlook on things |
10:15.55 | annuits | golem |
10:15.58 | art3mis | Orionshock: yer forgetting one very important thing in regards to clad though |
10:15.58 | annuits | i dont have that mod u asid |
10:16.04 | the-golem | ?? |
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10:16.08 | the-golem | annuits: wut? |
10:16.21 | art3mis | Orionshock: he'll have to point out the "why" part of it ;) |
10:16.21 | the-golem | i never said u had any specific mod |
10:16.31 | art3mis | even though inr eality we dont care |
10:16.35 | annuits | well wat could it be |
10:16.44 | art3mis | and he seems to not quite understand what similes at the end of statements mean |
10:16.52 | art3mis | i think thats cuz he's in england |
10:17.03 | art3mis | and the time difference doesnt let them transfer correctly |
10:17.08 | cladhaire | I certainly do, but smug remarks made with smileys aren't entirely innocent (and you are fully aware of this) |
10:17.10 | the-golem | art3mis: doncha mean "smilies |
10:17.17 | cladhaire | :P |
10:17.20 | cladhaire | I've smiled plenty too |
10:17.22 | the-golem | similes are somethign different entirely |
10:17.25 | the-golem | :P |
10:17.27 | art3mis | no way similies are way cooler ;P |
10:17.40 | the-golem | lol |
10:17.47 | cladhaire | but I'm going to make damn sure that the people who are questioning or critisizing know full well my intentions and reasons so there's no ambiguity |
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10:18.06 | art3mis | cladhaire: just remember that NOTHING i say has any other purpose(if its done in a argumentative way) that to troll ;) |
10:18.28 | cladhaire | I'm aware |
10:18.33 | art3mis | that being said im pretty sure you'll still fall into it heh |
10:18.35 | Orionshock | "/enough with the beating of the bush. you where going to set it on fire and run; so just do it/" <-- My phrase of the Month |
10:18.36 | cladhaire | I think its _awesome_ |
10:19.04 | the-golem | lol |
10:19.08 | cladhaire | art3mis: the problem with trolling, is even if I know you're trolling.. the two hundred people watching the conversation may not.. |
10:19.19 | art3mis | cladhaire: heh sometimes thats the best part |
10:19.30 | cladhaire | No, its not. |
10:19.41 | art3mis | besides you just need to fall on the "it's mine, not gonna happen, go die" response |
10:19.58 | cladhaire | i'm not tekkub |
10:20.02 | art3mis | no-one in here "needs" the WHY |
10:20.02 | cladhaire | i'm actually here to help my users :P |
10:20.11 | art3mis | they just need the end result |
10:20.13 | art3mis | heh |
10:20.20 | art3mis | tekk rocks though because of that |
10:20.22 | cladhaire | i gave it, that wasn't good enough |
10:20.25 | art3mis | shirik and cid are the same way |
10:20.40 | Tekkub | clad says that, but don't believe him |
10:21.13 | art3mis | cladhaire: the difference in the two responses is that one makes you look like an arrogant cock that lords it over others for "knowing more" as opposed to the arrogant cock that makes good addons |
10:21.31 | Arrowmaster | lol |
10:21.32 | cladhaire | and which do I come across as? |
10:21.37 | art3mis | which do you think people would be less likely to contest? |
10:21.38 | Orionshock | come on poking the /"wow ace dev counsie |
10:21.43 | cladhaire | ... |
10:21.45 | Orionshock | *disregard last |
10:21.58 | art3mis | <cladhaire> it means, flat out, that I know things you don't |
10:22.02 | art3mis | take a wild guess ;'P |
10:22.11 | cladhaire | ... |
10:22.18 | cladhaire | okay, can you just stop fucking trolling? |
10:22.30 | cladhaire | that was 10 minutes after i already gave my completely valid, unjustified responses. |
10:22.37 | art3mis | alright fine |
10:22.43 | cladhaire | that the addon isn't available via SVN.. and they can update via wowinterface.com favorites |
10:22.51 | art3mis | its only cuz you've got a sexy ass though |
10:23.00 | cladhaire | dragging shit out of context, and calling me an arrogant prick isn't "fun". |
10:24.08 | art3mis | hrm |
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10:24.15 | dreamss | aww |
10:24.17 | baer_ | moin. |
10:24.18 | dreamss | i missed the fun |
10:24.24 | art3mis | i just hit my "wow movement keys" in an attempt to mvoe around irc |
10:24.48 | dreamss | did it work? |
10:24.54 | art3mis | i dont think so |
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10:27.22 | dreamss | should wow cpu usage change if i change motherboards? |
10:27.30 | dreamss | cpu/ram/vid is the same |
10:27.32 | art3mis | it houldnt |
10:27.35 | art3mis | shouldnt |
10:27.54 | art3mis | unless its a much faster bus |
10:28.38 | Pucmel | nope |
10:29.00 | Pucmel | it will be high all the time .. stupid hack detecting tool |
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10:29.33 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember the last game i played that didnt use up as much cpu % as possible |
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10:30.00 | dreamss | this nforce2 board kept freezing after few days of wow |
10:30.11 | dreamss | my old via dint, so i switched the mobo back |
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10:37.11 | annuits | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7480/errorpu8.jpg KEEPS COMING UP OMG |
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10:38.09 | Ominous | annuits: get a proper error addon and you might find the source |
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10:38.22 | annuits | who can help me fix it |
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10:38.47 | Ominous | annuits: get !!BugGrabber and BugSack as that will give you an error which means something |
10:39.04 | the-golem | indeed |
10:39.18 | the-golem | annuits: does it happen when you do something? or just random? |
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10:40.12 | Arrowmaster | annuits: do you use itemrack? |
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10:40.24 | Orionshock | pift - lrn2debug :P |
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10:41.32 | annuits | no i dont |
10:41.37 | annuits | it happends random |
10:41.48 | Orionshock | ya - bug sack and grabber |
10:41.52 | annuits | both off them? |
10:41.53 | Orionshock | install & try again |
10:42.07 | annuits | wat do they do? |
10:42.16 | Orionshock | *ominous voice* -- Yes my son, both of them |
10:42.36 | annuits | wat do they do tho |
10:42.52 | Orionshock | ... questions questions -- install them and find out :P |
10:42.59 | annuits | install as in exe or a mod? |
10:43.04 | Orionshock | ? |
10:43.11 | annuits | are they mods or are they exe's |
10:43.12 | Orionshock | wrong question - try again |
10:43.24 | Orionshock | hehe.. bad context i guess |
10:43.34 | Orionshock | annuits: hit WAU / Files.wowace.com and get them there |
10:43.39 | Orionshock | their normal mods |
10:44.50 | annuits | ok iw ill later |
10:44.52 | annuits | raiding now :p |
10:53.48 | Synneth | how can i submit a bug report for a mod, the trac link on the home page doesnt work |
10:54.04 | Orionshock | check the forum thread - usualy it's posted there |
10:54.37 | Synneth | by home page i mean on the wowace.com home page, the mod itself doesnt have a page on the wiki - but ok, checking forum |
10:56.35 | Arrowmaster | trac is dead |
10:57.00 | Synneth | ahh, someone might want to remove the link from the main page then :) |
10:57.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah probably |
10:57.47 | Arrowmaster | i modified the template for the addon wiki pages to point to fish instead of trac but i doubt i'm allowed to touch the homepage and side bar stuff |
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10:59.42 | Orionshock | could prolly poke Tekkub to remove it |
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11:00.19 | Tekkub | the nav bar, no that's admin only |
11:00.46 | Tekkub | the addon box is generated by the server |
11:00.55 | Synneth | so is there a bug tracking system now or do we just post stuff on the forum |
11:00.59 | Tekkub | the new addon infobox template supports it |
11:01.08 | Tekkub | but auto-gen toc pages don't use it |
11:01.22 | Tekkub | you post bugs where the dev wants them |
11:01.39 | Orionshock | "Tekkub>you post bugs where the dev wants them" as it's always been |
11:01.42 | cranvil | hi there |
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11:01.47 | Tekkub | yup |
11:01.52 | Tekkub | and noone ever does |
11:02.09 | Arrowmaster | did any devs actually use trac for bugs? |
11:02.14 | Tekkub | look at all those feature requests in the TourGuide thread that I've already forgotten cause they're not in gcode |
11:02.31 | Tekkub | so sad, there were some good ones, I think, or did I just have gas that day? |
11:03.29 | kebinusan | Hm, anyone recommend a simple addon that keeps track of how many of each type of gem you have socketed |
11:03.49 | Orionshock | kebinusan: pen and papper? |
11:03.58 | kebinusan | Orionshock: Addon :-) |
11:04.14 | Orionshock | well it could be considered an addon :P |
11:04.20 | kebinusan | And dont say omnibus |
11:04.33 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
11:04.41 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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11:05.56 | kebinusan | nm found one |
11:06.03 | Orionshock | Tekkub: are there any events or callback or .. hooks into tourguide i can make to make the fubar plugin? |
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11:07.03 | Tekkub | events? not really |
11:07.21 | Tekkub | I could sneak in a callback of some sort maybe |
11:07.29 | Tekkub | I assume you need the status frame update |
11:07.57 | Orionshock | pritty much - what ever sets the icon and text |
11:08.11 | Orionshock | could care less about the clicks atm |
11:08.35 | Tekkub | well there's SetText and there's UpdateStatusFrame |
11:09.40 | Tekkub | you probably want to hook SetText |
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11:09.53 | Orionshock | ... 10pts man |
11:10.08 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
11:10.10 | Orionshock | >.> |
11:10.24 | Tekkub | I don't anme my frames |
11:10.32 | Tekkub | function TourGuide:SetText(i) |
11:10.36 | Orionshock | how lovely |
11:10.40 | Tekkub | I'm not talking about a frame's settext |
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11:11.13 | Saroz | SVN is fucked? |
11:11.19 | Orionshock | that function has other arguments btw |
11:11.31 | Tekkub | no, it doesn't |
11:11.38 | Tekkub | it's NOT a frame's SetText |
11:12.10 | Orionshock | i know... |
11:12.18 | Orionshock | i looked at the code... |
11:12.26 | Orionshock | i'll figure it out i just have to want to :D |
11:12.37 | Orionshock | & i don't like to hook shit |
11:12.50 | Tekkub | just get the action title and texture like it does in that SetText and use it :P |
11:12.55 | [Ammo] | Saroz: looks like, I ran into some issues just now as well |
11:13.01 | [Ammo] | 405 method not allowed |
11:13.03 | Tekkub | I might give you a callback, if you're nice |
11:13.16 | Tekkub | but a hook isn't bad there |
11:13.22 | Orionshock | well i don't need one i think |
11:13.26 | Tekkub | there's no taint to worry about, it's not called often |
11:13.28 | Orionshock | & hate hooks |
11:13.42 | Tekkub | hooks are fine if you do em right |
11:13.43 | Orionshock | too many things go wrong & poof - busted |
11:13.44 | Tekkub | :P |
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11:15.53 | Orionshock | if you add table access to some of the return values i could just listne to the same events and pull those |
11:16.12 | Tekkub | "some of the events"? |
11:16.19 | Tekkub | the frame updates on more than events |
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11:17.10 | Tekkub | how bout this... |
11:17.26 | Tekkub | attach a method, say UpdateFubarPlugin, on your init |
11:17.49 | Tekkub | if I find self.UpdateFubarPlugin, I'll call it and pass the args you need (texture and text?) |
11:17.58 | Orionshock | ya |
11:18.04 | Tekkub | and a correct self |
11:18.23 | Orionshock | ya that's about the extent of what's needed. |
11:18.28 | Tekkub | wait I'd need to know self too |
11:18.34 | Tekkub | you handle self :P |
11:18.39 | Tekkub | I'll handle the args |
11:18.43 | the-golem | good god |
11:18.49 | Tekkub | yes? |
11:18.55 | the-golem | has FuBar always used like 4MB? |
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11:19.15 | Tekkub | only 4? you can do better tahn that |
11:19.19 | Arrowmaster | your running embeded |
11:19.35 | Orionshock | TG_FU:DisplayUpdate(icon,text) |
11:19.36 | Arrowmaster | and memeory usage doesnt mean shit |
11:19.56 | Tekkub | again with that lovely vague phrase |
11:20.00 | Orionshock | UpdateFubarPlugin i think is internal |
11:20.14 | the-golem | Arrowmaster: thats debateable |
11:20.28 | Tekkub | yea, I'm talking about just attaching something into TourGuide's object |
11:20.32 | Saroz | [Ammo]: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BigWigs/ |
11:20.33 | Tekkub | if it's there I call it |
11:20.42 | Tekkub | you handle all the fubar bullshit yourself |
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11:21.11 | the-golem | but your right, i am embedded |
11:21.12 | Tekkub | the-golem, he means, peak memory use means nothing |
11:21.16 | the-golem | er, running embedded |
11:21.20 | Tekkub | memory consumption rate, does |
11:21.21 | Orionshock | >.- ok now im confused |
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11:21.36 | Mikk | SVN has been fixed |
11:21.38 | Tekkub | Orionshock, ... you creat TourGuide.somefunc.... |
11:21.39 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r52772 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
11:21.39 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceGUI: Add :SetDisabled to controls that were missing it |
11:21.39 | CIA-12 | AceConfigDialog: handle hidden when its a function/method |
11:21.39 | CIA-12 | - support disabled for controls |
11:21.40 | Mikk | dev.wowace.com works again |
11:21.48 | annuits | the natural ward has gone crazy on my sever now |
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11:21.51 | Tekkub | if it's there, I call self.somefunc(text, texture) |
11:21.53 | annuits | peeople hav beeen saying |
11:21.57 | Orionshock | .. oh ok. |
11:22.03 | Orionshock | that makes more sense |
11:22.12 | Tekkub | got it now? |
11:22.19 | annuits | dude weres my the natural ward harry potter and the natural ward star wars return of the natural ward lord of the rings return of the natuarl ward Lol |
11:22.24 | annuits | the list goes on |
11:22.26 | Tekkub | which means, if you need a "self" youll have to manage that for yourself |
11:22.35 | Tekkub | not hard to do at all, of course |
11:24.30 | CIA-12 | 03saroz * r52773 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: SinkLib: Fix Outgoing SCT sink |
11:24.36 | Saroz | ! |
11:25.05 | Arcaia | ! |
11:25.13 | Arcaia | ~weighted companion cube |
11:25.14 | purl | i guess weighted companion cube is your friend, though you shouldn't listen to his advice, HE IS YOUR FRIEND - do not question the truth! |
11:25.17 | the-golem | woo! http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f133/the-golem/WoWScrnShot_102107_035550.jpg |
11:25.37 | kebinusan | You will be baked and then there will be cake |
11:25.47 | Arcaia | orange appeal to you? |
11:26.00 | Arcaia | http://randomfew.net/random.public/wcc-desktop.png |
11:26.07 | kebinusan | I dislike big blocks on the bottom of the screen w/o a viewport |
11:26.07 | the-golem | i was aiming for more "goldem" |
11:26.16 | the-golem | "golden" |
11:26.22 | Arcaia | looks orange |
11:26.25 | the-golem | yeah |
11:26.33 | Arcaia | add a tad bit of green to it, and tone down the red >.> |
11:26.34 | the-golem | i aimed too low |
11:26.51 | kebinusan | You have euthanized your faithful companion cube faster than any test subject on record |
11:27.00 | the-golem | its difficult in game when all u got is the color wheel :-( |
11:27.16 | kebinusan | enhanced colorpicker |
11:27.22 | Bejitt | the-golem: why 'pet target' as a warrior? |
11:27.25 | Arcaia | 245, 237, 82 |
11:27.30 | Arcaia | = rgb |
11:27.37 | Arcaia | for a good gold that translates in UI ;P |
11:27.45 | the-golem | Bejitt: cuz its the same layout for my hunter |
11:27.53 | Bejitt | hah |
11:27.57 | the-golem | and i just turned on options |
11:28.00 | the-golem | er |
11:28.04 | the-golem | "config" |
11:28.25 | Bejitt | yea i know |
11:28.31 | the-golem | pet and pet target dont show up on a warrior anyway, unless im doing chess .. or that event in ogrila |
11:28.38 | Bejitt | just kinda pointless for a warrior :P |
11:28.48 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_101507_170819.jpg |
11:28.54 | Arcaia | most recent for my lock |
11:29.01 | Arcaia | I really need to take more screenshots |
11:29.04 | Arcaia | it changes near daily. |
11:29.23 | the-golem | nice |
11:29.47 | the-golem | Bejitt: true .. but they dont show up anyway :P |
11:29.55 | CIA-12 | 03saroz * r52774 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: SinkLib: Fix SCT sinks being reversed (FRAME 1 is Outgoing, FRAME 2 is Incoming) |
11:30.15 | the-golem | altho i guess i could unload them |
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11:30.23 | Bejitt | http://www.insomnia-spirestone.com/images/junko/Bat_Plus_Horse.jpg i cleaned it up a bit after this tho @_@ |
11:30.26 | the-golem | actually i need to unload lotsa shit |
11:30.29 | the-golem | like |
11:30.34 | the-golem | main tank target |
11:30.38 | Bejitt | haha yea |
11:30.47 | Arcaia | I have a cool idea for my rogue's ui >.> |
11:30.52 | the-golem | anyway |
11:30.55 | the-golem | i was more excited |
11:31.03 | Arcaia | my rogue = all keys memorized |
11:31.14 | the-golem | because i was able to get my border to load on eePanels2 |
11:31.14 | Arcaia | so i can have some fun without action bars! |
11:31.34 | the-golem | Bejitt: thats pretty nice |
11:32.11 | Bejitt | ignore ktm and the floating bar on the left :/ |
11:32.18 | the-golem | i like the spot for the classbars |
11:32.19 | haste | Arcaia: http://beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/temp/WoWScrnShot_081407_194606.jpg << dropping actionbars ftw :) |
11:32.33 | Bejitt | i |
11:32.39 | Bejitt | asdf fingers |
11:32.45 | the-golem | anyway, no more 5 eePanels2 to get a borderd pannel |
11:32.48 | the-golem | now just 1 |
11:32.50 | the-golem | :-) |
11:33.19 | Bejitt | i've had my ui in that general arrangement for a while; used to have buttons under the map, but i wanted it down more ;( |
11:33.21 | Arcaia | haste -> I'm afraid I won't clear everything off, ill keep buttons for cooldowns/trinkets |
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11:33.30 | Arcaia | mainly because I click those for safety. |
11:33.48 | the-golem | i click alotta shit |
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11:34.07 | Arcaia | what server haste? |
11:34.39 | Arcaia | and the-golem -> as a hunter, I presume you would =) |
11:34.44 | haste | Arcaia: Grim Batol EU |
11:35.02 | Bejitt | clicking as a hunter? cant jumpshot ;( |
11:35.05 | haste | Arcaia: I just use a small indicator for cooldowns: http://beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/ui/06072007.jpg (just under the error text) |
11:35.39 | the-golem | Arcaia: yeah ... hunters have too much crap lol |
11:36.44 | Arcaia | haste -> I like buttons for them -> makes sure I never accidentally blow a cool down when in the heat of fleeing in pvp or burning in raids |
11:36.53 | Arcaia | <- rogue of raiding proportions |
11:37.06 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
11:37.09 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Arcaia, Level 70 Human Rogue (15/41/5). 8884 HP; 1470 AP; 344.500 Melee DPS; 29.16% melee crit; 155 melee hit; 25.22% dodge; 55 resilience;[[ TBR: 1482 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/269oow ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rhxsn ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 07:40:21 2007 EST ]] |
11:37.29 | Arcaia | eww... |
11:37.37 | Arcaia | must have off-gear on >.> |
11:37.39 | Arcaia | or town gears |
11:37.40 | Bejitt | haha |
11:37.41 | Trell_ | http://www.angelicknights.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10335/trell_ui.jpg - ooc, and http://www.angelicknights.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10335/trell_ui_combat.jpg in combat ;) |
11:37.44 | Arcaia | donno. |
11:37.47 | Trell_ | Arcaia - I'm a Rogue too ;) |
11:38.00 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r52775 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: |
11:38.00 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: |
11:38.00 | CIA-12 | - input controls properly call their set function |
11:38.06 | the-golem | Arcaia: town gears? |
11:38.10 | the-golem | you on an RP server? |
11:38.19 | Arcaia | carebear server |
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11:39.19 | Trell_ | why can you never, ever, ever use a wand on yourself? |
11:39.20 | Arcaia | and also Trell_ :: too much futuristic text for me ;P |
11:39.34 | Trell_ | it's always annoyed me about events that give wands out as rewards. |
11:39.38 | Arcaia | I like my UI simple -> Functionaly ;) |
11:39.41 | Orionshock | Tekkub: http://ace.pastey.net/75599 |
11:39.44 | Orionshock | hows that look? |
11:39.52 | Trell_ | yeah, I'm kinda a stats whore |
11:40.05 | Trell_ | want to know everything at once, so tehres quite a bit of info on my UI's :P |
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11:40.43 | Arcaia | oh dont get me wrong |
11:40.47 | Bejitt | !c us Spirestone Junkoism |
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11:40.49 | ThraeBot | Bejitt: Junkoism, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (17/44/0). 9514 HP; 8313 Armour; 1828 AP; 228.200 Melee DPS; 31.36% melee crit; 188 melee hit; 5.32% dodge; 5.00% block; 12 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1046 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2g45z4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2le7ra ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 07:44:02 2007 EST ]] |
11:40.57 | Bejitt | i'm a rogue too ;o |
11:40.58 | Arcaia | when on my rogue my hud/ebb/etc has EVERYTHING |
11:41.05 | Arcaia | within minimal eye movement |
11:41.10 | Arcaia | kenergy mid screen |
11:41.20 | Arcaia | an ebb with debuffs on screeen |
11:41.30 | Arcaia | hud shows my hp/target hp |
11:41.35 | Arcaia | works Wonders ;) |
11:42.04 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_100307_131404.jpg |
11:42.11 | Arcaia | my rogue's ui -> in a nutshell ;P |
11:42.53 | Bejitt | the hell? it shows my dps as just my MH, but yours was combined dps |
11:43.30 | Arcaia | that shows a warrior >.> |
11:43.45 | Bejitt | and? |
11:43.49 | Arcaia | ahh |
11:43.51 | Bejitt | a warrior DW'ing |
11:43.56 | Arcaia | just making sure you didnt mean to link your rogue |
11:44.12 | Bejitt | haha no |
11:44.17 | Bejitt | i'm a rogue in plate ;oi |
11:44.22 | Bejitt | ;o* |
11:44.23 | Arcaia | FAIL. |
11:44.27 | Bejitt | haha whatever |
11:44.27 | Arcaia | Warriors Suck. |
11:44.33 | Arcaia | You will never compare. |
11:44.35 | Bejitt | yea, they do |
11:44.41 | Bejitt | mmmmkay |
11:44.57 | Arcaia | Warriors are Blizzard's failure at designing a class correctly. |
11:45.05 | Arcaia | Warlocks are their Shining achievement. |
11:45.14 | Arcaia | Everything else is in-between. |
11:45.18 | Bejitt | i may not be able to top our rogues half the time, but i'm still above the rest of the dps :P |
11:45.42 | Arcaia | I was toppin' Gruul dps charts in Blues/Greens. |
11:45.42 | the-golem | funny |
11:45.50 | Bejitt | haha so was i |
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11:46.08 | the-golem | <-- prot ftw/l |
11:46.14 | Bejitt | hah |
11:46.16 | the-golem | :P |
11:46.18 | Arcaia | Prot is something bliz did right ;P |
11:46.21 | darxeth | imp revenge ftw |
11:46.21 | Bejitt | i did that preBC >_> |
11:46.45 | Arcaia | Saight. |
11:46.47 | the-golem | yeah |
11:46.52 | the-golem | well |
11:47.05 | the-golem | too bad blizz didnt take the time to provide more prot gear |
11:47.06 | Arcaia | I've been dueling people on PTR naked with a 1hand vendor sword only ;P |
11:47.40 | Arcaia | I think Blizz needs to work on straightening out loot tables before making a new raid event >.> |
11:47.41 | Bejitt | more prot gear? there's plenty |
11:47.54 | Bejitt | it's just... spread out |
11:47.59 | the-golem | riiiiiiiiight |
11:48.00 | Arcaia | I've done Netherspite 29 times. Spiteblade hasn't dropped once. |
11:48.07 | the-golem | you know how many pre-raid prot boots there are? |
11:48.08 | the-golem | like |
11:48.09 | the-golem | 2 |
11:48.21 | Arcaia | Red Havoc Boots? |
11:48.35 | Bejitt | Eaglecrest Warboots |
11:48.39 | Bejitt | do eet |
11:48.58 | the-golem | i was going for the ones from MT for more stams |
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11:48.59 | the-golem | but |
11:49.02 | Bejitt | red havoc is t5 recipe drop |
11:49.07 | the-golem | no, too much shadow damage |
11:49.41 | the-golem | theres only Boots of the Collosus and Eaglecrest |
11:49.46 | Arcaia | So -> A) the pattern is buyable, B) Blacksmithing is trainable. |
11:49.52 | Bejitt | lol true |
11:49.58 | Arcaia | a friend of mine |
11:50.06 | Bejitt | speaking of, wts the recipe |
11:50.06 | Arcaia | Powerlevelled Engineering / Blacksmithing |
11:50.11 | the-golem | where does that recipe drop? |
11:50.16 | Arcaia | !C us Shattered Hand Robhammer |
11:50.17 | Bejitt | SSC/TK |
11:50.25 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Robhammer |
11:50.26 | the-golem | ah well |
11:50.27 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Robhammer, Level 70 Human Warrior (8/0/53). 13574 HP; 13296 Armour; 716 AP; 140.800 Melee DPS; 5.79% melee crit; 13 melee hit; 405 defense; 21.43% dodge; 22.33% block;[[ TBR: 1196 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrcznw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mm8sv ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 07:53:40 2007 EST ]] |
11:50.53 | Arcaia | note: thraebot doesn't calculate defense correctly I don't believe |
11:50.59 | Bejitt | wtf is he doing with dragonmaw |
11:51.00 | Bejitt | and a shield |
11:51.05 | Arcaia | offtanking ;) |
11:51.13 | Bejitt | still, w t f |
11:51.19 | Bejitt | too slow >_> |
11:51.27 | Arcaia | dragonmaw is amazing for building threat/rage while offtanking. |
11:51.55 | Arcaia | and that shield is what he grinds with |
11:51.58 | Arcaia | while farming ;P |
11:52.08 | the-golem | !c us Drak'thul Mistblade |
11:52.10 | ThraeBot | the-golem: Mistblade, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (10/0/51). 14014 HP; 15117 Armour; 832 AP; 141.400 Melee DPS; 5.87% melee crit; 329 defense; 18.81% dodge; 23.97% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1486 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yty945 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35frbk ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 07:55:22 2007 EST ]] |
11:52.21 | Bejitt | well he's prot, he can do that :P |
11:52.57 | the-golem | ... |
11:53.03 | the-golem | he blacksmith engy? |
11:53.07 | Arcaia | yep |
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11:53.11 | the-golem | fuck i should do that |
11:53.21 | the-golem | mining/bs |
11:53.27 | Arcaia | he farmed 90% of the blacksmithing mats before he dropped mining ;) |
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11:53.33 | Arcaia | bought the rest |
11:53.46 | the-golem | yeah |
11:53.48 | the-golem | good idea |
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11:53.52 | Arcaia | look at his exalted/revered reps ;) |
11:54.07 | Bejitt | you have a ton of solid gems, but no mongoose? /sad |
11:54.12 | the-golem | i know |
11:54.18 | the-golem | we been sharding alot of kara |
11:54.19 | the-golem | but |
11:54.24 | the-golem | i dont get any shards |
11:54.31 | the-golem | im unlucky |
11:54.46 | Bejitt | you random them? o.O |
11:54.46 | the-golem | plus, i know that once i get mongoose |
11:54.49 | Arcaia | you the maintank? |
11:54.55 | Codayus | Wait, what does luck have to do with it? |
11:54.58 | the-golem | kings will drop |
11:55.19 | the-golem | Arcaia: for my group yeah |
11:55.20 | Arcaia | welcome to wow -> insert loot table problem -> thank you for playing wow |
11:55.31 | darxeth | does anyone by chance know a good program like ms frontpage to build websites? |
11:55.32 | the-golem | lol |
11:55.38 | Arrowmaster | notepad |
11:55.45 | Bejitt | traveling salesman -> traveling raider |
11:55.50 | the-golem | Bejitt: yeah they do highest/lowest |
11:55.51 | Codayus | darxeth: Good programs aren't like frontpage. :-) |
11:55.52 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: comeone, at least give him notepad++ |
11:55.56 | the-golem | or whatever, roll |
11:56.09 | darxeth | Codayus i know but i dont have time for coding and shit |
11:56.15 | Arcaia | darxeth: Notepad is a solid choice, metapad a second good choice |
11:56.17 | Arrowmaster | dreamweaver |
11:56.28 | Arcaia | fireworks MX |
11:56.33 | Codayus | Arrowmaster: Good suggestion. |
11:56.42 | the-golem | darxeth: your question failes, "good program" and "frontpage" do not belong in teh same sentance |
11:56.43 | darxeth | i'll check it in youtube :D |
11:56.45 | Arcaia | and Adobe GoLive! |
11:56.45 | nevcairiel | has anyone used the latest dreamweaver yet? |
11:56.48 | nevcairiel | that one in CS3 |
11:57.00 | the-golem | unless theres "is not a" in there also :P |
11:57.02 | Arcaia | no -> never will. |
11:57.24 | Arcaia | CS2 & Notepad |
11:57.28 | Diao | !c us blackrock diaox |
11:57.30 | ThraeBot | Diao: Diaox, Level 70 Orc Warrior (10/5/46). 14394 HP; 15014 Armour; 746 AP; 141.900 Melee DPS; 9.78% melee crit; 17 melee hit; 339 defense; 21.10% dodge; 26.41% block;[[ TBR: 1097 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cmtba ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mo3yt ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 08:00:43 2007 EST ]] |
11:57.31 | Arcaia | too cheap to upgrade ;P |
11:57.58 | the-golem | i have CS2 |
11:58.03 | darxeth | Thrae reported to blizz!!! :o |
11:58.05 | the-golem | i never use it ^^ |
11:58.05 | Bejitt | raiding prot build? nowai! |
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11:58.52 | Diao | i need 2 more upgrades from kara :( |
11:59.13 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Frugaly |
11:59.15 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Frugaly, Level 39 Draenei Hunter (0/0/30). 2455 HP; 1635 Mana; 71 mana regen; 487 AP; 68.400 Melee DPS; 20.48% melee crit; 429 RAP; 80.20 Ranged DPS; 20.72% ranged crit; 19.83% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 717 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr62j7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33kkqm ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 08:02:28 2007 EST ]] |
11:59.18 | darxeth | guess i'll go for dreamweaver ;p |
11:59.28 | Arcaia | hrm. |
11:59.41 | Bejitt | Diao: omg bracers? |
11:59.44 | Arcaia | my hunter could almost beat an undergeared 70 |
11:59.46 | Azure | !c eu Kargath Duglum |
11:59.48 | ThraeBot | Azure: Duglum, Level 70 Undead Mage (43/18/0). 7753 HP; 10046 Mana; 169 mana regen; 25 mp5; 340 spell crit; 113 spell hit; 1182 +spell dmg; 5.18% dodge; 37 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 610 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2y27gl ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2tbulk ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 08:03:01 2007 EST ]] |
11:59.54 | Arcaia | that one actually |
11:59.54 | Azure | love that bot :) |
12:00.15 | Arcaia | !vs eu Kargath Duglum us Shattered Hand Frugaly |
12:00.16 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Duglum vs Frugaly! Duglum has +31 lvls on Frugaly (70 vs 39); A L70 mage and a L39 hunter square off!; 43/18/0 vs 0/0/30; Duglum wins by 422 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
12:00.24 | Arcaia | ahh well |
12:00.25 | Diao | yea my bracers are terrible |
12:00.27 | Diao | and belt |
12:00.32 | Bejitt | yea :/ |
12:00.41 | Diao | i saw the bracers from attumen |
12:00.43 | Diao | first week i ran kara |
12:00.45 | Arcaia | Frugaly has 717 TBR -> Duglum 610 |
12:00.52 | Diao | but our other tank won them |
12:00.53 | Bejitt | oh that sucks |
12:00.58 | Arcaia | THEREFORE! -> I Wins. |
12:00.59 | Diao | 14 weeks later |
12:01.02 | Azure | hehe :) |
12:01.04 | Diao | i have not seen a single pair |
12:01.07 | Diao | since then... |
12:01.33 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r52776 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
12:01.33 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceGUI: Checkbox labels no longer extend outside the control |
12:01.33 | CIA-12 | AceConfigDialog: fix multiselect group not being full width |
12:01.35 | Azure | !c eu Kargath Aib |
12:01.37 | ThraeBot | Azure: Aib, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/7/46). 17959 HP; 17480 Armour; 778 AP; 150.800 Melee DPS; 9.29% melee crit; 99 melee hit; 401 defense; 28.13% dodge; 26.18% block; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 918 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yslgsj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nv7xz ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 08:04:49 2007 EST ]] |
12:01.58 | *** join/#wowace Argolas (n=swappy83@d83-184-76-209.cust.tele2.it) |
12:02.03 | Diao | i really wonder how tbr is calculated |
12:02.08 | Arcaia | ~tbr |
12:02.08 | purl | rumour has it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
12:02.08 | Azure | no idea.. |
12:02.25 | the-golem | Diao: i got 3 drops my first day |
12:02.26 | Bejitt | yea, it took HKM+Lurker 4 months to drop bracers for me... was using some green ones from netherstorm until then >_< |
12:02.32 | the-golem | and another the day after :P |
12:02.46 | Arcaia | sure you could ask Thrae for the algorithm |
12:02.49 | Diao | oh i got like |
12:02.55 | Arcaia | and stack it in your favor ;) |
12:02.58 | Diao | haha |
12:02.59 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=f@pD955B96D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
12:03.03 | Bejitt | the 'best part' was that they EACH dropped their bracers the first time the same week >_> |
12:03.06 | Diao | well i'm sure if i logged out in my pvp gear |
12:03.10 | Bejitt | and then... kept dropping for a month |
12:03.13 | CIA-12 | 03bam * r52777 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
12:03.13 | CIA-12 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
12:03.13 | CIA-12 | - Price updates |
12:03.15 | Diao | s2/deep thunder etc |
12:03.17 | Diao | :P |
12:03.20 | Diao | it'd be much higher |
12:03.22 | Diao | since it's pvp oriented |
12:03.50 | Diao | we did a 3hr kara full clear today |
12:03.55 | Diao | brought a new lock in |
12:03.56 | Arcaia | same here >.> |
12:03.58 | Diao | he got 7 upgrades |
12:04.00 | Diao | in a run... |
12:04.00 | Azurewrath | my Bracers from Winterchill dropped at the very first kill.. but i disconnected in between and was unable to loot and therefore unable to bid.. never dropped since then :/ |
12:04.09 | Arcaia | noone in our group got a single upgrade >.> |
12:04.09 | Diao | it took me like 10 weeks to get 7 upgrades |
12:04.14 | Arcaia | all priest healer gear dropped |
12:04.19 | Arcaia | no priest healers ;P |
12:04.21 | Bejitt | Azurewrath: ouch >_< |
12:04.24 | Diao | i wanted to cry |
12:04.31 | Bibi` | Azurewrath : my dragonstalker helm didn't drop in 23 kills |
12:04.32 | Diao | if only i had that kind of luck |
12:04.38 | Arcaia | what opera did you get? |
12:04.43 | Bibi` | and I had connection problems when it dropped during the 24th |
12:04.45 | Bibi` | :/ |
12:04.47 | Diao | r&j |
12:05.28 | Diao | lock got gloves off attumen, boots from maiden, pants off opera, shoulders off aran, trash epic belt, mindblade, and t4 helm |
12:05.30 | *** join/#wowace TheKarn (n=TheKarn@cpc3-glfd1-0-0-cust609.glfd.cable.ntl.com) |
12:05.30 | Diao | :( |
12:05.44 | the-golem | MINDBLADE? |
12:05.46 | Diao | yea |
12:05.47 | the-golem | that shit NEVER drops |
12:05.49 | the-golem | lol |
12:05.55 | Diao | my guild is lucky with mindblades |
12:05.59 | Diao | we've gotten 7 |
12:06.01 | the-golem | damn |
12:06.03 | Diao | in the 15 weeks of kara we did |
12:06.05 | Bejitt | Azurewrath: class? |
12:06.12 | Azurewrath | Bejitt: Mage |
12:06.16 | Diao | we get gorehowls mindblades and light's justices |
12:06.17 | the-golem | we still dont do 3 hour karas |
12:06.19 | Diao | never seen a malchazeen |
12:06.20 | the-golem | we goof off too much |
12:06.25 | Bejitt | ahh |
12:06.29 | the-golem | plus |
12:06.32 | the-golem | prince is gay |
12:06.37 | Diao | lol |
12:06.38 | Diao | prince is so easy |
12:06.39 | the-golem | stupid ass luck fight |
12:06.50 | the-golem | i never said he was hard |
12:06.58 | Diao | it's not luck at all if you know where to position him >.> |
12:07.06 | the-golem | yeah |
12:07.12 | the-golem | i heard about that exploit |
12:07.17 | the-golem | but |
12:07.24 | Azurewrath | oh and i will still use a blue cloak with 2.3.. Prince, Moroes, Maulgar, Kael.. never dropped a single cloak when i was there. |
12:07.33 | the-golem | i *think* we tried there once (before i heard about it) and it failed |
12:07.34 | Diao | lol |
12:07.43 | Bejitt | yea i'm still using a blue cloak too :X |
12:07.53 | Bejitt | nothing else is as balanced |
12:08.13 | the-golem | Bejitt: i swap between my thorium weave and some green one i have with defense |
12:08.21 | Diao | no devilshark? |
12:08.27 | the-golem | its like 1 point less on stats with the lvl 63 cloak |
12:08.28 | Diao | i'm using devilshark until i get phoenix wing |
12:08.31 | the-golem | from somewhere |
12:08.38 | Diao | or the heroic badges cloak next patch |
12:08.45 | the-golem | no devilshark |
12:08.52 | the-golem | wont drop for me lol |
12:08.54 | Diao | :\ |
12:08.59 | Bejitt | devilshark is pretty nice for tanking |
12:09.01 | Arcaia | it feels weird |
12:09.05 | Diao | best tanking cloak until phoenix wing |
12:09.06 | Diao | atm |
12:09.09 | Diao | for warrior at lesat |
12:09.09 | the-golem | yeah |
12:09.14 | Arcaia | the person's account that my warlock is on |
12:09.17 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r52778 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
12:09.17 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceConsole: |
12:09.17 | CIA-12 | - Change "end of string" indicator position from 1e99 to 1e9. It turns out that substr("hi",1e99) returns "hi" rather than "". Doh. |
12:09.21 | the-golem | ... |
12:09.22 | Diao | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33593 will be better though next patch |
12:09.25 | Arcaia | just asked me if they could play on it for n hour or two |
12:09.25 | the-golem | i forgot what i was looking for |
12:09.31 | Diao | for 35 heroic badges, almost as good as phoenix wing |
12:09.46 | Argolas | sorry guyz, what is the module name in prat for link item in created channel? |
12:09.55 | Azurewrath | Diao: the heroic cloaks are crap. |
12:10.03 | Diao | uhh? |
12:10.06 | Bejitt | gogo druid cloak |
12:10.10 | Azurewrath | at least for Mages. |
12:10.23 | Diao | they're pvp cloaks |
12:10.28 | the-golem | bah |
12:10.28 | Diao | except for the tanking one |
12:10.38 | Azurewrath | yes, and i don't care about pvp. |
12:10.38 | the-golem | those 2 cloaks arent really warrior tank |
12:10.43 | the-golem | more druid stuff |
12:10.47 | the-golem | +dodge |
12:10.53 | Diao | eh |
12:10.56 | Diao | dodge is still nice |
12:11.00 | Argolas | sorry guyz, what is the module name in prat for link item in created channel? |
12:11.02 | Diao | and there isn't really a better cloak |
12:11.05 | Diao | uhh |
12:11.06 | Bejitt | well, it's druid-y, but it's still good for warriors |
12:11.06 | the-golem | yeah |
12:11.26 | Bejitt | just like the rings you all wear with just +armor and +Sta :P |
12:11.32 | CIA-12 | 03bam * r52779 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
12:11.32 | CIA-12 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
12:11.32 | CIA-12 | - Two hacks(!) implemented to potentially get item count when |
12:11.32 | CIA-12 | GameTooltip:SetHyperlink() is called. First checks if a second argument is given |
12:11.32 | CIA-12 | to SetHyperlink (Bagnon uses this hack). Second, checks if the owner of the |
12:11.33 | CIA-12 | tooltip has a "count" field. (Blizzard's SetItemButtonCount actually sets this |
12:11.34 | Orionshock | ckknight: |
12:11.37 | Diao | chatlink i think Argolas |
12:11.37 | CIA-12 | field on the button.) |
12:11.37 | the-golem | my kara group never does netherspite or nightbane |
12:11.39 | Orionshock | ckknight: ping |
12:11.39 | the-golem | :-( |
12:11.44 | the-golem | ever *cry* |
12:11.57 | Diao | well i really can't see a better cloak than PWC for warrior even |
12:12.06 | Diao | i've tried searching wowhead for any cloaks |
12:12.07 | Diao | lol |
12:14.57 | Diao | hmm |
12:15.02 | Bejitt | imo just stick with devilshark |
12:15.10 | Diao | can't wait for 2.3, +4 stats to ring enchant available to non-hyjal raiders |
12:15.11 | the-golem | yeah |
12:15.25 | the-golem | Bejitt: another thing thats lacking |
12:15.28 | Batos | What dependency does Gladiator have? |
12:15.28 | Diao | they need an upgraded version of devilshark for warrs |
12:15.31 | Diao | tattle, Batos |
12:15.36 | Batos | Only that? |
12:15.39 | the-golem | decent non-raid prot plate |
12:15.40 | Arcaia | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/21/breakfast-topic-yeah-what-eyonix-said/ |
12:15.47 | the-golem | chestpiece* |
12:15.48 | Arcaia | Eyonix wtf pwned some QQer |
12:15.49 | Arcaia | Rofl. |
12:16.05 | Diao | lol |
12:16.10 | Diao | afaik yes Batos |
12:16.28 | Diao | there's 3 good chestpieces preraid |
12:16.42 | Diao | jadeskull, aldor revered, and mag'har one (for horde) |
12:16.50 | Diao | dunno if there's alliance equivalent |
12:16.52 | Arcaia | I play Rogue. |
12:16.59 | the-golem | Bejitt: considering how my guild seems to NEVER EVER do nightbane, im considering getting that new badge chest |
12:17.04 | Arcaia | There's like... 0 -great- things available pre-raid. |
12:17.08 | the-golem | even though its for "pallys" |
12:17.08 | Diao | heroics |
12:17.13 | Diao | pants off quag etc |
12:17.18 | the-golem | Diao: i have jadeskull |
12:17.20 | Arcaia | quag pants are nice |
12:17.21 | Arcaia | I have em |
12:17.25 | Arcaia | not that great though |
12:17.33 | Arcaia | Skulker's are still a better upgrade by far. |
12:17.48 | Diao | all the badge items seem pretty great |
12:17.52 | Arcaia | Pre-raid you can hardly get 200 hit rating with great attempt. |
12:17.56 | Diao | well yeah |
12:17.58 | Bejitt | the-golem: convince them not to fail at NB then? |
12:18.07 | the-golem | hehe |
12:18.09 | Arcaia | Rogue's primary raid stat -> hit raiting. |
12:18.12 | Arcaia | rating* |
12:18.19 | Diao | yeah really |
12:18.22 | cncfanatics | btw, anyone know what they're changing about hit rating ? |
12:18.23 | Arcaia | And it's even worse post-ptr. |
12:18.27 | cncfanatics | I heard the hit cap will be higher |
12:18.28 | Diao | NB is stupid easy compared to prince |
12:18.31 | Arcaia | PTR max hit is like -> 263 |
12:18.32 | the-golem | Bejitt: that badge one would be pretty fucking nice anyway, even if it does have +damage/healing |
12:18.34 | Diao | what |
12:18.35 | Arcaia | 363* |
12:18.37 | Codayus | cncfanatics: They aren't changing anything about hit rating. |
12:18.45 | Diao | i never heard about a hit rating change |
12:18.46 | Codayus | However, weapon skill is being removed as a stat. |
12:18.48 | Arcaia | Codayus: they are changing weapon skill. |
12:18.53 | Bejitt | the only thing that's changing is that rogues will need more now |
12:18.57 | Diao | all weapon skill -> weapon expertise |
12:18.58 | Arcaia | which affects max hit needed. |
12:18.59 | Diao | afaik |
12:19.00 | Bejitt | b/c of weapon skill |
12:19.01 | Codayus | So you can't get the "free" 3% hit from 5 weapon skill. |
12:19.08 | cncfanatics | meh |
12:19.10 | cncfanatics | sucks |
12:19.13 | Diao | they're removing the talent? |
12:19.20 | cncfanatics | converting it to expertise |
12:19.21 | Bejitt | no, retooling it |
12:19.23 | Diao | well |
12:19.24 | cncfanatics | which gives less change to be dodged |
12:19.26 | Arcaia | Diao-> expertise is nice -> 100% hit is nice too. |
12:19.27 | cncfanatics | not bad either, but well |
12:19.31 | Diao | hm |
12:19.32 | Codayus | Good on balance... |
12:19.34 | Arcaia | or 99% or what not. |
12:19.35 | Bejitt | yea, that's kinda hot too |
12:19.44 | Bejitt | is it 4% for rogues? |
12:19.44 | Diao | i thought expertise was the same thing as skill with a new name so they don't have to have individual weapons |
12:19.46 | cncfanatics | its 100% for melee, arcaia |
12:19.48 | Arcaia | now people will start stacking expertise |
12:19.50 | Bejitt | total w/ the talent |
12:19.53 | Codayus | Diao: Entirely different effects. |
12:19.56 | Diao | because weapon expertise applies to all weapons instead of just 1 specific one |
12:19.59 | Arcaia | gotta get 6.5% dodge/parry lowerage |
12:20.04 | Bejitt | Arcaia: you only need 6% or so |
12:20.10 | Arcaia | 6.5% ;P |
12:20.13 | cncfanatics | 5.5-6% will do |
12:20.13 | Bejitt | ;P |
12:20.15 | Diao | oh expertise only works on dodge and parry |
12:20.16 | Arcaia | and still 250 hit is nice. |
12:20.19 | Diao | instead of dodge parry miss |
12:20.23 | Arcaia | aye |
12:20.29 | Arcaia | well |
12:20.30 | Diao | not that bosses EVER parry melee |
12:20.32 | Bejitt | parry isnt the issue :P |
12:20.32 | Codayus | Diao: Incorrect, weapon skill did NOT work on dodges or parry. |
12:20.36 | Diao | since they attack from behind o_o |
12:20.41 | Arcaia | hit rating never affected dodge parry |
12:20.44 | Bejitt | Diao: they do parry 'tarded melee |
12:20.48 | Diao | hit rating didn't, weapon skill did |
12:20.53 | Diao | does* |
12:21.02 | Arcaia | yea, but not as much as expertise ;P |
12:21.07 | Arcaia | I like the expertise change |
12:21.13 | the-golem | my melee is retarded |
12:21.15 | the-golem | i have like |
12:21.16 | Diao | lol |
12:21.19 | the-golem | ZERO hit |
12:21.21 | Arcaia | but not that it cut out the hit cap >.> |
12:21.24 | Diao | yea |
12:21.25 | the-golem | i miss all the time |
12:21.28 | the-golem | is gay |
12:21.31 | Diao | the nice thing about expertise |
12:21.32 | Diao | is for tanks |
12:21.32 | Arcaia | gotta have 60 to never hit specials |
12:21.37 | Arcaia | aye |
12:21.41 | Diao | instead of getting hit gear we can get expertise |
12:21.43 | Bejitt | i want my 2% back from that ptr patch >:( (warrior) |
12:21.48 | Arcaia | but getting backstabs dodge sucks also |
12:21.56 | Diao | go combat dagger! |
12:21.57 | Arcaia | wasted 60 energy with no combo point to refresh snd. |
12:22.00 | cncfanatics | hmmmz, what is change to miss vs a boss ? |
12:22.05 | Arcaia | i am combat dagger >.> |
12:22.05 | cncfanatics | s/change/chance/ |
12:22.10 | Diao | or wait |
12:22.13 | Diao | dodge wtf |
12:22.17 | the-golem | i still dont quite get expertise |
12:22.21 | the-golem | but *shrug* |
12:22.31 | Diao | chance to miss is currently 28% dual wield |
12:22.36 | cncfanatics | eek |
12:22.36 | Diao | against a raid boss |
12:22.39 | cncfanatics | 5% from precision |
12:22.39 | Arcaia | aye. |
12:22.42 | cncfanatics | so 23% |
12:22.42 | the-golem | what is expertize meant to bypass? |
12:22.43 | Arcaia | 23% |
12:22.48 | Arcaia | dodge/parry |
12:22.48 | Diao | dodge/parry the-golem |
12:22.54 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r52780 10/branches/FishermansFriend/: |
12:22.54 | CIA-12 | FishermansFriend: Initial folder creation |
12:22.54 | CIA-12 | - Simple Ace3 testing addon based on Fishing Ace |
12:22.58 | Arcaia | 23% |
12:22.59 | the-golem | and +hit is just miss? |
12:23.02 | Arcaia | 16 hit = 1% |
12:23.06 | Codayus | the-golem: This is correct. |
12:23.09 | Bejitt | wait, what's the DW penalty again? |
12:23.13 | the-golem | ooh |
12:23.16 | Diao | dw penalty is 25% base |
12:23.22 | Diao | plus 1% per level |
12:23.24 | cncfanatics | +3% for higher lvl |
12:23.32 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r52781 10FishermansFriend/: Created folder remotely |
12:23.32 | the-golem | and u only need like 6% expertise for bosses? |
12:23.32 | Diao | and raid bosses are considered 73, so +3% for that |
12:23.33 | Arcaia | 368 hit needed. |
12:23.36 | Codayus | This makes expertise a good stat for melee DPS (reduction of dodge), and a freaking amazing stat for tanks. |
12:23.43 | Diao | yes |
12:23.47 | Diao | and the best thing is |
12:23.49 | Bejitt | you answered that wrong i think o.O |
12:23.50 | the-golem | :-) |
12:23.57 | Diao | warriors gain +6 expertise with 3 into defiance (required tanking talent) |
12:24.00 | Bejitt | 5% base, +20% with DW? |
12:24.01 | Arcaia | bejitt -> 16 hit = 1% ;P |
12:24.06 | Diao | which is 1.5% anti-dodge/parry |
12:24.16 | Arcaia | offhand = 28% |
12:24.30 | the-golem | Bejitt: only 6 rating? |
12:24.33 | Bejitt | omg |
12:24.45 | Balstor | both weapons get 28% |
12:24.45 | the-golem | *brings up mmo-champion* |
12:24.45 | Bejitt | gonna have to look it up >_> |
12:24.48 | Arcaia | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit |
12:24.54 | Arcaia | 15.8 = 1% |
12:25.44 | Bejitt | OK, the DW penalty is 19% |
12:25.59 | Bejitt | so base 9%, plus the penalty is 28% total |
12:26.05 | Bejitt | :p |
12:26.15 | Arcaia | aye |
12:26.23 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r52782 10FishermansFriend/ (FishermansFriend.lua FishermansFriend.toc): |
12:26.23 | CIA-12 | FishermansFriend: |
12:26.23 | CIA-12 | - Initial import of files |
12:26.23 | CIA-12 | - Double rightclick casting of fishingline |
12:26.23 | CIA-12 | - Autoloot toggle, sounds enhancement toggle |
12:26.24 | CIA-12 | - /fmf for a config dialog |
12:26.25 | Arcaia | 5% precision |
12:26.28 | Arcaia | 23% |
12:26.36 | cncfanatics | are they changing racials too btw ? |
12:26.41 | cncfanatics | or are those still wpn skill ? |
12:26.42 | Arcaia | -a 363.4 |
12:26.52 | Arcaia | 363.4 hit needed =) |
12:26.53 | Diao | racials got nerfed |
12:26.57 | Balstor | racials become 1% to crit |
12:26.58 | Arcaia | as I originally said =D |
12:26.58 | Diao | to 1% crit |
12:27.00 | Diao | :( |
12:27.07 | Bejitt | the 'great' thing about the skill removal is that difference between +2 lvls and +3 lvls |
12:27.13 | cncfanatics | meh, racials gonna suck then |
12:27.13 | Diao | really harsh on us orc and human tanks |
12:27.30 | the-golem | aaaah |
12:27.33 | Diao | losing 5 weapon skill worth ~3% hit |
12:27.36 | the-golem | actual expertise, not rating |
12:27.38 | Diao | for 1% crit |
12:27.38 | Argolas | I use cartographer and when I click on an icon boss this message popup in the chat 14:26:30 [Cartographer_InstanceLoot] PT3 has no table InstanceLoot.Serpentshrine Cavern.The Lurker Below |
12:27.38 | the-golem | :-) |
12:27.40 | Arcaia | unless you tank with a bow ! |
12:27.43 | *** join/#wowace Ozguli` (n=probli@e83-245-142-211.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
12:27.44 | Arcaia | or gun ! |
12:27.49 | Ozguli` | Big one! |
12:27.49 | Diao | well |
12:27.50 | Diao | no |
12:27.55 | Diao | only dwarves and trolls get that bonus ;) |
12:27.59 | Arcaia | aye. |
12:28.06 | Ozguli` | Hm.. I don't even know what you were talking about |
12:28.10 | Diao | it's a huge nerf to orcs and humans :( |
12:28.14 | Codayus | The net effect of the expertise change is positive, even for human tanks... |
12:28.32 | Codayus | ...nelf/troll hunters get a bit screwed though. :-) |
12:28.36 | Argolas | I use cartographer and when I click on an icon boss this message popup in the chat 14:26:30 [Cartographer_InstanceLoot] PT3 has no table InstanceLoot.Serpentshrine Cavern.The Lurker Below |
12:28.37 | Arcaia | <- human |
12:28.38 | Diao | erm |
12:28.40 | Diao | well |
12:28.43 | the-golem | yeah |
12:28.44 | Ozguli` | is there some addon to hide default buffs if one uses elk or something to show them fancily? |
12:28.51 | the-golem | because there is no bow expertise |
12:28.52 | the-golem | but |
12:28.52 | Diao | uh |
12:28.57 | Diao | ebb should autohide the default buffs |
12:28.57 | Bejitt | elk should hide them |
12:29.02 | the-golem | you cant block/dodge/parry arrows |
12:29.12 | Diao | it's a buff to ranged classes |
12:29.12 | the-golem | only have htem miss |
12:29.16 | Bejitt | the-golem: arrows can be blocked |
12:29.21 | Diao | converting from weapon skill -> crit |
12:29.21 | the-golem | orly? |
12:29.23 | the-golem | well |
12:29.27 | Bejitt | if you've ever played a hunter, you'd know :D |
12:29.31 | Diao | yea just can't dodge/parry |
12:29.33 | the-golem | still has nothign to do with expertise |
12:29.33 | Balstor | just means as a tank i now need 5% to hit and 5% expertise (around 100 hit rating and someeting expertise rating) |
12:29.35 | Bejitt | it's kinda odd |
12:29.48 | Codayus | the-golem: Right, but they're going from 3% hit to 1% crit. That's a loss. In exchange, their gear gets reitemized to have more crit and miss, but the old weapon skill was giving them some hit already. |
12:29.54 | the-golem | Bejitt : i have a 39 hunter, but i really only notice misses |
12:29.54 | Bejitt | Balstor: 9% to hit :( |
12:30.13 | Diao | wait what |
12:30.15 | the-golem | Codayus: nelf dont have a 3% hit .. |
12:30.16 | Arcaia | the-golem -> twink? |
12:30.16 | Diao | it's not 3% hit for ranged |
12:30.21 | Balstor | yhea 9% sorry just woke up |
12:30.25 | Diao | since enemy can't dodge or parry it |
12:30.26 | Bejitt | and.. doesnt dodge/block/parry increase with level difference? |
12:30.28 | the-golem | or am i confused? |
12:30.33 | Arcaia | the-golem -> twink? |
12:30.35 | the-golem | Arcaia: not *really* |
12:30.43 | Arcaia | !c us shattered hand frugaly |
12:30.44 | Ozguli` | checked around, must be the other addons causing trouble |
12:30.44 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Frugaly, Level 39 Draenei Hunter (0/0/30). 2455 HP; 1635 Mana; 71 mana regen; 487 AP; 68.400 Melee DPS; 20.48% melee crit; 429 RAP; 80.20 Ranged DPS; 20.72% ranged crit; 19.83% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 717 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr62j7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33kkqm ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 08:02:28 2007 EST ]] |
12:30.48 | the-golem | i dont have crappy gear tho |
12:30.51 | Argolas | I use cartographer and when I click on an icon boss this message popup in the chat 14:26:30 [Cartographer_InstanceLoot] PT3 has no table InstanceLoot.Serpentshrine Cavern.The Lurker Below |
12:30.52 | Arcaia | there's my 39 hunter =P |
12:30.55 | Arcaia | twanked. |
12:30.56 | the-golem | not super crappy |
12:30.56 | Balstor | and warriors gear didn't get re itemized all the did was pull weapon skill and replace it with expertise |
12:31.02 | Ozguli` | off searching ace unitframes then |
12:31.04 | Diao | did you update pt3? |
12:31.08 | the-golem | !c us drak'thul rhianwyn |
12:31.10 | ThraeBot | the-golem: Rhianwyn, Level 39 Night Elf Hunter (23/5/2). 1578 HP; 1860 Mana; 73 mana regen; 7.01% melee crit; 341 RAP; 65.00 Ranged DPS; 12.21% ranged crit; 9.31% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 468 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrjend ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2l3q3a ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 08:34:22 2007 EST ]] |
12:31.20 | Arcaia | I win =) |
12:31.22 | Diao | yeah they need to reitemize warrior gear properly |
12:31.25 | Diao | er tank gear |
12:31.28 | the-golem | hehe |
12:31.30 | Diao | to give both hit and expertise |
12:31.36 | Diao | since skill gave both :\ |
12:31.39 | Arcaia | Paladins in Kara gear can get 25k health now >.> |
12:31.43 | the-golem | like i said, its not a twink :P |
12:31.44 | cncfanatics | they can ? :o |
12:31.47 | Arcaia | yep |
12:31.52 | the-golem | Arcaia: wtf |
12:31.53 | cncfanatics | how ? :o |
12:32.04 | cncfanatics | I'm full kara gear with 13ish k hp lol |
12:32.11 | the-golem | warriors are stuck with goddamn 15k |
12:32.14 | the-golem | thats BS |
12:32.17 | Bejitt | he means buffed i think |
12:32.18 | Diao | are you stacking stam gems |
12:32.27 | Diao | fully buffed i'm at 18k hp |
12:32.27 | cncfanatics | even with stacking & buffed u can't get 25k |
12:32.33 | the-golem | Bejitt: same here |
12:32.34 | Diao | that includes fort kings commanding and imp |
12:32.36 | Arcaia | http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z113/CateranEnforcer/WoWScrnShot_101607_170615.jpg |
12:32.37 | cncfanatics | Arcaia, tell us how, or do u mean netherspite ? |
12:32.40 | Diao | on my warrior |
12:32.40 | Arcaia | on ptr |
12:32.54 | cncfanatics | how the fuck ? |
12:32.59 | Bejitt | Arcaia: first off, Merc MH |
12:33.01 | Diao | oh i don't have mark or food |
12:33.06 | Diao | looks like |
12:33.10 | Diao | 51 stam trinkets |
12:33.12 | Balstor | well 95 stam in the trinket slot.... |
12:33.14 | Diao | darkmoon cards |
12:33.18 | Diao | and what's the other one |
12:33.20 | cncfanatics | I have that too |
12:33.21 | Diao | i don't recognize it |
12:33.28 | Bejitt | and is that the t5 crafted belt? |
12:33.32 | Arcaia | goblin rocket launcher |
12:33.34 | Diao | then violet signet of great protector, some other ring |
12:33.37 | cncfanatics | 1.6k sta & 17k armor is not possible in kara gear |
12:33.41 | Diao | battlescar boots, |
12:33.44 | Diao | devo aura |
12:33.49 | Diao | so ~15.5k armor unbuffed |
12:33.58 | Diao | which is around where my warrior is at right now in almost full kara |
12:34.01 | the-golem | dood wtf |
12:34.02 | Balstor | and the tanking goggles are like 61 stam ( more than T5 actually) |
12:34.06 | the-golem | i dont even have 1k stamina |
12:34.12 | the-golem | well almost |
12:34.17 | Diao | i've got uh |
12:34.21 | Diao | 997 unbuffed or something |
12:34.24 | Balstor | he has 1653 staminia |
12:34.29 | Diao | 998 unbuffed* |
12:34.36 | Diao | well |
12:34.37 | cncfanatics | I'm around 1k too |
12:34.39 | the-golem | Balstor: yes we can see the screenshot ^^ |
12:34.43 | cncfanatics | where the fuck did u get those 600 from ? |
12:34.43 | Diao | with mark, kings, fort, blood pact |
12:34.47 | Arcaia | Weapon Expertise (Protection) renamed Combat Expertise, now increases expertise by 1/2/3/4/5 and total Stamina by 2/4/6/8/10% |
12:34.52 | Diao | fort gives 100 |
12:34.56 | cncfanatics | omg |
12:34.59 | Diao | pact gives 83? |
12:34.59 | cncfanatics | WOW |
12:35.00 | Arcaia | for gives 79 |
12:35.07 | Diao | no it's 100 when improved |
12:35.07 | Arcaia | and blood pact gives 79 >.> |
12:35.09 | cncfanatics | total sta increases by 10% ? sick |
12:35.21 | cncfanatics | wish I still played my tankadin |
12:35.31 | Diao | pact should give 100some when improved as well |
12:35.39 | the-golem | cncfanatics: yeah trying to really make tankadins more viable |
12:35.43 | Arcaia | 79 |
12:35.50 | cncfanatics | meh, I quit my tankadin a while ago |
12:35.52 | cncfanatics | damn dead server |
12:36.03 | Diao | oh |
12:36.04 | Arcaia | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27268 |
12:36.11 | Diao | ok |
12:36.17 | Diao | well i know fort is definitely 100 |
12:36.24 | Arcaia | you're right |
12:36.26 | Chompers | !c eu kul tiras Sorken |
12:36.26 | Arcaia | fort is 100 |
12:36.28 | ThraeBot | Chompers: Sorken, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (13/0/48). 15354 HP; 17267 Armour; 762 AP; 149.700 Melee DPS; 9.05% melee crit; 15 melee hit; 11 +spell dmg/heal; 391 defense; 28.07% dodge; 26.91% block; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1740 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zlv27 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dvl76 ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 08:39:41 2007 EST ]] |
12:36.31 | Arcaia | i knew one was 79 though |
12:36.36 | Codayus | Oh, to address my earlier comment, I of course meant dwarf hunters got screwed by losing 3% hit, not nelf hunters. :-) |
12:36.43 | Diao | then uh |
12:36.46 | Codayus | (I know, I'm like, 10 minutes late.) |
12:37.05 | Diao | imp mark gives 19 |
12:37.06 | Arcaia | 30 stam food |
12:37.09 | Diao | yea |
12:37.19 | cncfanatics | Arcaia, that makes palatanks quite viable |
12:37.19 | Arcaia | commanding shout |
12:37.21 | cncfanatics | high sta, never crushed |
12:37.23 | Diao | so total is 228 extra stam |
12:37.25 | Diao | plus kings |
12:37.26 | Arcaia | and 10% from kings |
12:37.29 | Diao | so assume 1k base |
12:37.32 | Arcaia | and 10% from talent |
12:37.37 | cncfanatics | 13% from talents |
12:37.40 | the-golem | they need to do that to vitality |
12:37.41 | cncfanatics | improved DS also gives sta |
12:37.42 | Diao | isn't it 16% from talents |
12:37.44 | Bejitt | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30034 is the belt |
12:37.45 | Diao | for imp DS |
12:37.48 | the-golem | 5% stam is gay |
12:37.53 | Codayus | And yeah, paladins needed stam buff heavily. |
12:37.56 | the-golem | should be 5% str and 10% stam |
12:38.01 | the-golem | ^^ |
12:38.03 | cncfanatics | meh, wish my palatank was not on a dead server now |
12:38.06 | cncfanatics | I'd be so happy |
12:38.14 | nevcairiel | move it |
12:38.19 | Diao | so 228 bonus, then multiply by 1.16 |
12:38.19 | cncfanatics | on cooldown |
12:38.25 | cncfanatics | and on a damn pve server |
12:38.26 | Diao | gives 265 |
12:38.35 | cncfanatics | pvp is so much more fun, started on a pvp one recently with a rogue |
12:38.36 | Diao | assume 1k base for 1265, apply kings after |
12:38.51 | Diao | 1391 stam |
12:38.52 | Codayus | It's pretty odd; most top raid guilds are...on pvp servers. :-/ |
12:38.56 | cncfanatics | ya |
12:38.57 | Diao | still missing 250 stam somewhere |
12:39.06 | Diao | commanding gives straight hp, not stam so... |
12:39.09 | cncfanatics | 16% from talents |
12:39.16 | Diao | oh |
12:39.17 | Arcaia | yea 16% |
12:39.19 | Diao | right, 1k base is too low |
12:39.28 | Diao | since my warrior has 1k base with only 5% bonus stam |
12:39.48 | Diao | should be ~1100 base i guess |
12:40.07 | Diao | but yes that is ridiculous |
12:40.23 | the-golem | yeah somethings wrong |
12:40.24 | the-golem | ^^ |
12:40.31 | Diao | pallies kept posting on warrior forums saying that they will still have less hp than warrior after the stam buff |
12:40.33 | cncfanatics | that talent is just win |
12:40.35 | Diao | looks like they were lying |
12:40.43 | *** join/#wowace Wixti (n=wixti@64.113.3.213.cust.bluewin.ch) |
12:40.47 | Diao | "we can't make up 1200 base hp difference plus 390 from your khorium gun" |
12:40.48 | cncfanatics | makes me want to reroll another palla on kazzak |
12:41.02 | Orionshock | tek |
12:41.05 | Orionshock | he loged |
12:41.06 | Orionshock | :( |
12:41.11 | the-golem | Diao: lol? |
12:41.19 | the-golem | 1200 base HP? |
12:41.19 | Arcaia | diao they technically do >.> |
12:41.31 | Diao | yeah |
12:41.32 | cncfanatics | warriors, have 1.2k more base hp (naked hp) then palas |
12:41.36 | Diao | warriors have a 1200 hp base advantage |
12:41.37 | Diao | over pally |
12:41.38 | the-golem | aah |
12:41.41 | the-golem | hadnt realized |
12:41.47 | Diao | the problem is |
12:41.49 | Diao | 16% bonus stam |
12:41.51 | Diao | scales far too well |
12:41.53 | cncfanatics | ah well, guess now pala hp > warrior hp |
12:41.58 | cncfanatics | FUCK U WARRIORS :p |
12:41.59 | Arcaia | warriors fully geared can get equally uncrushable with far better hp. |
12:42.00 | Diao | which is why they nerfed the warrior vitality from 10% to 5% -_- |
12:42.03 | the-golem | *sigh* |
12:42.12 | Arcaia | to get that hp -> they have to STACK stamina ;P |
12:42.15 | Diao | uh |
12:42.18 | Diao | warriors stack stam too |
12:42.18 | Codayus | Before you feel too sad, the changes to warriors should play out pretty well for tanking. |
12:42.25 | the-golem | Diao: it was never 10% was it? |
12:42.28 | Diao | it was |
12:42.31 | Diao | when they first introduced it |
12:42.32 | cncfanatics | it was in beta me thiks ? |
12:42.36 | Arcaia | but they dont have to stack that much blockrating/avoidancestuffs |
12:42.36 | the-golem | oh |
12:42.37 | Diao | then it got nerfed before release |
12:42.38 | Arcaia | defense rating etc. |
12:42.42 | the-golem | didnt pay attention to betah |
12:42.49 | Diao | actually yea |
12:42.51 | Diao | looking at that pally |
12:42.54 | Diao | they've stacked pure stam |
12:42.56 | Diao | but no avoidance |
12:43.02 | Diao | only 500 def, and really low dodge/parry/block |
12:43.05 | the-golem | with my trink + shieldblock i have 115% |
12:43.27 | Diao | but |
12:43.30 | Diao | at like t6 level gear |
12:43.32 | the-golem | thats low dodge/parry/block? |
12:43.35 | Diao | uhh |
12:43.39 | Arcaia | yes |
12:43.41 | Diao | to me it is |
12:43.42 | the-golem | pretty close to mine |
12:43.44 | Diao | on my warr |
12:43.45 | the-golem | *shrug* |
12:43.46 | Arcaia | gott have -> 102.9 ish? |
12:43.49 | Arcaia | total> |
12:43.53 | Diao | 21.1% block, 16.52% parry, 26.41% block |
12:43.54 | Arcaia | dodge + parry + block |
12:43.55 | Diao | 102.4 |
12:43.59 | Diao | dodge/parry/block/miss |
12:44.00 | Arcaia | there you go |
12:44.13 | Arcaia | 590 defense ;P |
12:44.14 | the-golem | lol Diao say that again? |
12:44.22 | Diao | to be uncrushable |
12:44.29 | Diao | you need to have combined block+parry+dodge+miss of 102.4% |
12:44.33 | the-golem | ooh |
12:44.35 | Diao | pallies can do it passively |
12:44.37 | Diao | with holy shield |
12:44.42 | Diao | by stacking avoidance |
12:44.53 | the-golem | <PROTECTED> |
12:45.00 | Diao | !c us Blackrock Diaox |
12:45.01 | ThraeBot | Diao: Diaox, Level 70 Orc Warrior (10/5/46). 14394 HP; 15014 Armour; 746 AP; 141.900 Melee DPS; 9.78% melee crit; 17 melee hit; 339 defense; 21.10% dodge; 26.41% block;[[ TBR: 1097 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cmtba ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mo3yt ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 08:00:43 2007 EST ]] |
12:45.23 | Codayus | Warriors don't need to EVER wear block rating gear to get uncrushable, so they can afford to stack more stamina than pallies... |
12:45.28 | Diao | WELL |
12:45.31 | Diao | oops capslock |
12:45.35 | Codayus | (Assuming shield block charges last.) |
12:45.37 | Diao | we do and we don't |
12:45.42 | Diao | on fights like prince we will get crushed |
12:45.48 | Codayus | And Morogrim. |
12:45.49 | the-golem | ah |
12:45.50 | Diao | unless we aim for passive uncrushable |
12:45.54 | the-golem | i dont have pocketwatch |
12:46.00 | the-golem | i let the druid have it first |
12:46.01 | Diao | by stacking block rating gear (heroic badges/za loot) |
12:46.03 | Diao | oh |
12:46.09 | Codayus | And it's easy enough to hit that, but you wouldn't wear that gear for 95% of fights. |
12:46.14 | Diao | we've gotten 5 pocketwatches |
12:46.16 | Diao | lol |
12:46.17 | the-golem | and like i said |
12:46.20 | Diao | got 4 warriors and a druid with it :x |
12:46.20 | Bejitt | gah, eff using a warrior to tank TW >_< |
12:46.23 | the-golem | i STILL havent gotten devilshark |
12:46.25 | Codayus | Pallies have to always have that gear equipped except for bosses which can't crush... |
12:46.29 | Diao | true |
12:46.32 | Diao | well |
12:46.41 | Diao | warriors can be passively uncrushable |
12:46.44 | Diao | in t6 level gear as well |
12:46.47 | Diao | lol |
12:46.47 | the-golem | lol |
12:46.51 | Diao | pretty funny |
12:46.55 | Diao | don't have to shield block at all |
12:47.00 | Diao | use your rage on other abilities |
12:47.00 | Codayus | It's POSSIBLE to be passively uncrushable in Kara level gear, but you wouldn't want to. |
12:47.01 | the-golem | i dunno |
12:47.10 | Diao | the scary thing is |
12:47.10 | *** join/#wowace Lothaer (n=Jamie@CPE-121-220-145-49.sa.bigpond.net.au) |
12:47.12 | Diao | pally t6 gear |
12:47.12 | the-golem | ive shieldblock before and still gotten crushed :-( |
12:47.17 | Diao | for tankadins |
12:47.18 | Codayus | At T6, it's possible to get within about 0.5% of being unhittable, on paper. Funny as HELL. |
12:47.21 | Diao | has more stam than t6 warrior |
12:47.24 | Diao | prot set |
12:47.26 | Diao | ... |
12:47.26 | Codayus | Give us Sunwell gear... |
12:47.29 | Diao | imagine how muhc hp they will have |
12:47.32 | Diao | with the pally buff |
12:47.36 | Arcaia | just enough |
12:47.42 | Lothaer | is there a addon that will allow me to findout formula and enchant IDs? |
12:47.49 | the-golem | sooo |
12:48.05 | Codayus | Tanking is a fine line between stam, avoidance, and threat gen. I'm not worried about pally stam yet... |
12:48.14 | the-golem | 1200base hp is worth them having +16% talents vs us with 5%? |
12:48.16 | Arcaia | glowfosho |
12:48.17 | Diao | pallies have the last 2 covered easily |
12:48.19 | Arcaia | for formula >.> |
12:48.25 | Arcaia | but thats only weapon enchants ;P |
12:48.27 | Diao | superior threat gen to warr |
12:48.31 | Diao | especially on multimob :( |
12:48.34 | Lothaer | i am awear of that |
12:48.35 | Codayus | Especially since we don't know how warrior threat gen is being impacted by 2.3. (My estimate: Heavily upwards.) |
12:48.40 | the-golem | yeah |
12:48.41 | Arcaia | Quit bashing Pally tanks. |
12:48.46 | Arcaia | You have Rage. |
12:48.46 | Lothaer | i want to add more enchants to it |
12:48.47 | the-golem | we're fucked on multimob |
12:48.50 | Arcaia | They have Manaz/ |
12:48.58 | Diao | well |
12:49.03 | Diao | 2.3 will boost warrior threat gen |
12:49.04 | Diao | insanely |
12:49.05 | Bejitt | Codayus: my guess is: easier :D |
12:49.06 | the-golem | Arcaia: you have bubble+heal |
12:49.08 | the-golem | so shoooosh |
12:49.09 | the-golem | :P |
12:49.11 | Diao | weapon expertise + devastate change |
12:49.12 | Diao | is amazing |
12:49.16 | Bejitt | b/c you wont have to switch between sunder and dev |
12:49.16 | Codayus | Diao: Yeah. |
12:49.17 | Diao | they finally made devastate good |
12:49.25 | Diao | 401 or more threat per devastate |
12:49.27 | Diao | ridiculous |
12:49.28 | the-golem | *agrees* |
12:49.31 | Diao | and that's just the bonus threat |
12:49.32 | Codayus | (Whirlwind + Devestate = prot farming!) |
12:49.35 | Bejitt | will Devastate be affected by ImpSunder? |
12:49.37 | Diao | yes |
12:49.40 | Codayus | Bejitt: Yes! |
12:49.42 | Diao | it will |
12:49.44 | Bejitt | hawtttt |
12:49.44 | Diao | 9 rage devastates |
12:49.45 | Bejitt | haha |
12:49.48 | the-golem | yay |
12:49.55 | Diao | every application of devastate |
12:50.01 | Diao | activates an internal trigger of sunder armor as well |
12:50.01 | the-golem | adds a sunder |
12:50.06 | Bejitt | yea i know |
12:50.11 | Diao | it's only as of latest ptr though |
12:50.17 | Codayus | So if we turn to warriors for very high threat single target tanking, paladins for high stam AoE tanking, and druids for um....druid stuff.... |
12:50.19 | Diao | previously it wasn't giving the 301 threat that sunder gives |
12:50.23 | Arcaia | the-golem: I don't have a paladin tank ;P |
12:50.25 | Diao | druids for fights like leotheras |
12:50.28 | Diao | where you need DPS TANK |
12:50.32 | Bejitt | Codayus: druids for high-threat ;( |
12:50.34 | Codayus | Heh, last build of the PTR was charging DOUBLE for devestate too. |
12:50.37 | the-golem | Arcaia: i tease >.< |
12:50.40 | Diao | lol |
12:50.40 | Codayus | Bejitt: Yeah, the model needs work. |
12:50.43 | Arcaia | my fiancee has a holy paladin and she changed to holy because before prot was weak. |
12:50.56 | Diao | there is one advantage prot pally will have over warrior |
12:51.00 | Diao | farming stuff :( |
12:51.07 | the-golem | yeah |
12:51.09 | the-golem | although |
12:51.09 | Codayus | Although if they buff cats enough, druids will be the hybrid DPS/tanks. |
12:51.13 | the-golem | i like how i can kill mobs |
12:51.15 | Diao | wish i could solo farm 300g an hour in UD strat |
12:51.19 | the-golem | and use shieldblock |
12:51.20 | Diao | or 4k scryer/aldor rep per hour |
12:51.24 | Arcaia | Druids can die in a fire for rolling on all rogue leather. |
12:51.34 | the-golem | and the only damage i take, is from blood rage |
12:51.35 | Codayus | Which is a viable slot. Prot warriors can't really DPS, and prot pallies REALLY can't. :-D |
12:51.36 | Bejitt | Codayus: cats are already bufffed @_@ |
12:51.47 | the-golem | tho it takes a while to kill it .. |
12:51.49 | Codayus | Bejitt: Yes. And I'm very glad. I just hope it's enough. |
12:51.50 | Diao | well |
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12:51.51 | Bejitt | that or... our other raiders suck |
12:51.52 | Diao | prot warrs can dps |
12:51.54 | Diao | if they put on dps gear |
12:51.59 | Diao | like today in our kara |
12:52.03 | Bejitt | Diao: not like druids tho |
12:52.06 | Diao | lol |
12:52.10 | Diao | i was 3rd on dps today |
12:52.12 | Diao | on aran |
12:52.12 | the-golem | Diao: its called, stack block and block rating ;-) |
12:52.14 | Diao | nah |
12:52.21 | the-golem | <PROTECTED> |
12:52.22 | Diao | i put on full dps gear, dragonmaw and KD dual wield |
12:52.25 | Bejitt | and if a prot warrior in dps gear out-dpses someone ... yeahhhh something's gotta change |
12:52.30 | Megalon | every melee is topdps on aran |
12:52.30 | Codayus | Prot DPS on anything but Aran or Solarian though? |
12:52.30 | Diao | sundered down aran with 5 stacks |
12:52.31 | Megalon | :S |
12:52.36 | Diao | then spam devastate/heroic strike nonstop |
12:52.41 | Diao | 1800 HS crits |
12:52.45 | Diao | 1.1k devastate crits |
12:52.46 | Diao | nonstop |
12:52.47 | Diao | :D |
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12:52.51 | Codayus | And yes, prot warriors SHOULD hit about midway on the DPS charts on Aran. |
12:52.55 | Megalon | aran is in permacasting mode, so no parry/dodge |
12:52.59 | Diao | same with uh |
12:53.00 | Megalon | and has the lowest armor in kara |
12:53.02 | Diao | netherspite |
12:53.05 | Codayus | Solarian |
12:53.09 | Diao | i wreck meters on netherspite |
12:53.13 | Diao | my guild isn't on solarian yet |
12:53.20 | Bejitt | i always went into aran spammign the hell outta him; nowhere near middle ;o |
12:53.21 | Codayus | Netherspite is.....worst example, too many gimmics. |
12:53.22 | Diao | we're just starting ssc/tk |
12:53.27 | Diao | lol |
12:53.30 | Codayus | Dear GOD but a warrior can go nuts in the green beam. |
12:53.40 | Diao | yeah |
12:53.42 | Bejitt | Codayus: i prefer blue |
12:53.44 | Diao | but we bring 2 rogues |
12:53.45 | the-golem | they always but me in red |
12:53.46 | the-golem | i think |
12:53.55 | Diao | i'm in red only |
12:53.58 | the-golem | thats the HP one |
12:53.58 | Diao | and green if we don't have enough rogues |
12:54.03 | the-golem | yah? |
12:54.05 | Arcaia | my game just crashed >.> |
12:54.07 | Diao | blue if one of our locks/spri dies |
12:54.08 | the-golem | like 40k hp? |
12:54.11 | Diao | yeah |
12:54.13 | Codayus | Diao: We got into the habit of only having tanks in green, because our rogue CO swore blindly that it didn't effect rogues. |
12:54.18 | Diao | lol |
12:54.23 | Codayus | He has since moved on, thankfully. |
12:54.28 | Codayus | THe strategy has stuck with us though. |
12:54.29 | Diao | i have to say though |
12:54.31 | Bejitt | haha |
12:54.33 | Diao | red beam + warrior |
12:54.36 | Diao | sub-20% netherspite |
12:54.37 | Diao | is amazing |
12:54.38 | Lothaer | ~seen bigzero |
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12:54.40 | Diao | go battle |
12:54.43 | Diao | nonstop 100 rage executes |
12:54.46 | Arcaia | green = healer one doesnt it? |
12:54.47 | Bejitt | we used hunters on red when we didnt have enough tanks :o |
12:54.51 | Codayus | Arcaia: Heavens no. |
12:54.53 | Diao | it's the "healer" beam |
12:54.54 | Bejitt | and when we didnt have hunters... gogo rogue tanks |
12:55.00 | Diao | it increases healing done |
12:55.03 | Codayus | Healers need to stay the hell away from green. That's the melee beam! |
12:55.04 | Diao | and lowers mana cost of spells |
12:55.06 | Diao | BUT |
12:55.09 | Diao | it drains mana every tick |
12:55.14 | Diao | which is why you use non-mana classes in it ;p |
12:55.19 | Codayus | (I think Bliz wanted healers to go into green, but no good strat does that.) |
12:55.21 | Bejitt | green is good for mana near the end of the rotation tho |
12:55.24 | Diao | well usually we have our healers run into green |
12:55.28 | Diao | for about 4-5 sec |
12:55.31 | Arcaia | does it affect rogue ability cost? |
12:55.33 | Diao | yes |
12:55.36 | Diao | it affects all ability cost |
12:55.36 | Bejitt | no Arc |
12:55.40 | Bejitt | green? |
12:55.42 | Diao | yep |
12:55.42 | Bejitt | o_O |
12:55.46 | Diao | it lowers cost of all abilities for every clsas |
12:55.47 | Arcaia | getting too many answers here |
12:55.47 | Diao | class* |
12:55.53 | the-golem | lol |
12:55.55 | cncfanatics | omg at a rogue in green beam |
12:55.56 | Arcaia | that'd be amazing for a rogue then >.> |
12:55.58 | Diao | i've been in it enough to know |
12:56.06 | Diao | when i was arms specced in it |
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12:56.10 | Diao | 15 rage mortal strikes |
12:56.13 | Diao | lol |
12:56.15 | the-golem | oh shit |
12:56.17 | Codayus | Arcaia: The green beam lowers rage costs. And according to everyone but our old rogue CO, energy costs. Melee in there goes nuts, and it's a good place to stick your tanks. |
12:56.19 | cncfanatics | WTB that on rogue |
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12:56.27 | Diao | yea we put our rogues in it |
12:56.32 | Diao | 20 energy ss, 30 rage bs |
12:56.37 | cncfanatics | GIEV |
12:56.38 | Diao | after a few ticks of course |
12:56.40 | Codayus | Since you can USUALLY trust a tank to pick the green beam up, and we usually couldn't trust our rogues to tell green from blue if we gave them 3 guesses. |
12:56.42 | Bejitt | "Spell and ability cost reduced by 1% per tick (including abilities that require Rage or Energy, in addition to Mana)." |
12:56.45 | Codayus | ....see previous comments. |
12:56.46 | Bejitt | haha i didnt know that :o |
12:56.48 | Bejitt | owell |
12:56.56 | Bejitt | thought it was just spells |
12:57.00 | Diao | and always have a lock/spri in the blue beam |
12:57.05 | Diao | since they can keep themselves up lol |
12:57.09 | cncfanatics | hmmmmz |
12:57.10 | Diao | for full duration |
12:57.11 | Bejitt | you know, since it reduced _mana_ |
12:57.16 | Diao | and 50k curse of dooms |
12:57.22 | Codayus | Affliction lock > shadow priest > other locks. Drain Life is SICK. |
12:57.23 | Diao | near the end of the rotation |
12:57.26 | Diao | yeah |
12:57.31 | Diao | we put a shadow priest for the second rotation |
12:57.35 | Diao | because VT + that |
12:57.36 | Diao | is ridiculous |
12:57.37 | Codayus | But it's easy enough to see a spriest top the healing meters with VE alone... |
12:57.43 | Arcaia | well hell |
12:57.48 | Arcaia | ill start asking for green beam now |
12:57.50 | Diao | it fills our healers mana bars to max |
12:57.52 | Arcaia | because I -can- tell. |
12:57.55 | Codayus | (I'll be honest, Netherspite is one freaking fun fight.) |
12:57.56 | Diao | when a shadow priest goes in |
12:58.22 | Bejitt | it's fun, but the planning stage can be bothersome |
12:58.27 | Diao | lol |
12:58.30 | Bejitt | nowhere near as bad as Mag, but eh |
12:58.37 | Diao | planning is quick for me |
12:58.39 | the-golem | *sigh* |
12:58.41 | Diao | cause for some weird reason |
12:58.44 | Codayus | ....unless you have idiots along. Learning that your healers can't dodge breaths....not good. |
12:58.45 | the-golem | i missed the oldworld stuff :-( |
12:58.47 | Diao | our guild has nothing but paladin healers |
12:58.53 | the-golem | i started playing too late |
12:58.55 | Diao | we have like 7 holy paladins |
12:59.02 | Diao | 1 resto druid, 1 holy priest |
12:59.06 | Bejitt | get some druids gogo |
12:59.12 | Bejitt | and a shaman |
12:59.12 | Codayus | (We only take 2 healers to Kara. Losing 1 early makes every fight an adventure.) |
12:59.21 | Diao | so our rotations end up always being warrior, paladin, warrior, paladin for red beam |
12:59.29 | Diao | yeah we only use 2 healers in kara |
12:59.32 | Diao | 3 is a waste |
12:59.35 | Diao | too much overheal |
12:59.36 | Codayus | Diao: You use more than 2 tanks for red? |
12:59.42 | the-golem | we usually take 3 |
12:59.45 | Diao | yeah the whole dancing thing |
12:59.45 | the-golem | but i dont think we need it |
12:59.47 | Diao | is kinda annoying |
12:59.51 | Codayus | We just have 1 per portal phase. |
12:59.51 | Bejitt | eh.. 3 -> 2 tanks 1 raid healers :p |
12:59.54 | the-golem | we almost did prince with 2 |
13:00.00 | Diao | we down prince, nightbane with 2 :P |
13:00.05 | Codayus | MT takes it first portal, OT takes the next phase, repeat until dead. |
13:00.08 | Diao | hmm |
13:00.14 | Diao | how does your tank stay alive long enough |
13:00.18 | Diao | does he do the dance in/out of beam thing |
13:00.27 | the-golem | you move in/out |
13:00.35 | Codayus | The trick is to make them learn "the dance". They need to step in and out fairly frequently to stop dropping to 0 max HP |
13:00.35 | Diao | yeah that's annoying |
13:00.37 | the-golem | i think |
13:00.43 | Diao | it's easier for us |
13:00.47 | Codayus | *shrug* |
13:00.49 | Diao | to just stand in the beam until around 18k hp or so |
13:00.53 | Diao | then swap a second person in |
13:00.55 | the-golem | yeah |
13:00.58 | the-golem | thats what we did |
13:01.04 | the-golem | beams are wierd |
13:01.11 | the-golem | hard to tell if ur in it or not |
13:01.19 | Lothaer | so yeah how do i find out the formula/enchant IDs of enchants that are not currently in glowfosho? |
13:01.28 | Diao | uhh |
13:01.29 | Codayus | We have a *GOOD* MT, he handled that side of things, and it's never been an issue for us. So we just have MT in red, OT in green, then OT in red and MT in green. |
13:01.30 | Arcaia | no clue >.> |
13:01.37 | Diao | no idea Lothaer |
13:01.41 | Codayus | Meanwhile all DPS just cycles through the blue beam. |
13:01.45 | Lothaer | dang namit |
13:01.47 | Diao | o_O |
13:01.49 | Diao | interesting |
13:01.56 | Diao | we do pally/warrior/druid/shaman in red |
13:01.59 | Diao | rogue/warrior in green |
13:02.12 | Codayus | Makes planning simple, and vent chatter mostly centers around DPS arguing over who gets blue beam. |
13:02.13 | Diao | and lock/spri in blue, if they need to switch out early then other dps sub in |
13:02.24 | Diao | afflic lock is just wrong in blue |
13:02.29 | Arcaia | we did kara today without vent >.> |
13:02.30 | Codayus | "WTF you've had it for half the phase, GIEF NOW!" "One more second, I bet I can get a new crit frost bolt record!" |
13:02.34 | Arcaia | our server was down |
13:02.34 | Diao | lol |
13:02.40 | Arcaia | still cleared in 3.5 hours ;P |
13:02.43 | Diao | it's funny watching our lock drop curse of doom |
13:02.48 | Diao | right at the end of portal phase |
13:02.59 | Diao | and then watching netherspite's hp drop by like 5% |
13:03.02 | Diao | a minute later |
13:03.11 | the-golem | lol |
13:03.19 | Arcaia | amp c-o-doom ;P |
13:03.23 | Diao | yea |
13:03.27 | Diao | haven't seen a crit one yet though |
13:03.31 | Diao | (can it crit?) |
13:03.47 | Ozguli` | Diao no it's a dot |
13:03.54 | Arcaia | yea -> can't crit ;P |
13:04.01 | the-golem | .. |
13:04.03 | Diao | ah ok |
13:04.06 | Diao | no wonder |
13:04.06 | the-golem | ive seen immolate crit |
13:04.07 | Ozguli` | but doesn't the lock get HUUUGE threat from the tick? |
13:04.10 | the-golem | isnt that a dot? |
13:04.15 | Diao | immo initial damage |
13:04.17 | Diao | isn't a dot |
13:04.18 | Ozguli` | it has non-dot hit initial |
13:04.18 | the-golem | or because it has a DD component |
13:04.22 | Diao | yeah |
13:04.25 | Diao | it's ilke moonfire |
13:04.25 | the-golem | ah |
13:04.27 | Diao | dd first, then dot |
13:04.28 | the-golem | kk |
13:04.29 | Diao | uh |
13:04.34 | Diao | yes they do but they have salv generally |
13:04.44 | Diao | and plus netherspite seems to reset threat after banish ends |
13:04.53 | Diao | and it's ok if they generate massive threat |
13:05.02 | Diao | because i'm spamming heroic strike/devastate with dual wield |
13:05.04 | Diao | if i'm not in red beam |
13:05.11 | Diao | so i'm generating massive threat as well |
13:05.26 | Diao | actually i spam that in red beam too, with shield slams/revenges |
13:05.27 | Diao | lol |
13:06.10 | Diao | usually i end up dw tanking netherspite between banish/portal phase due to how much threat i generate |
13:06.21 | the-golem | hehe |
13:06.33 | the-golem | i shoudl dw 'tank' aran |
13:06.41 | the-golem | cuz its not like he listens to agro anyway |
13:06.49 | the-golem | fucker |
13:06.55 | Diao | lol |
13:06.57 | Diao | yep |
13:07.11 | Diao | i usually start with shield in battle stance in case i have to shieldbash, drop 5 sunders asap |
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13:07.21 | Diao | then hit my weaponswap macro to go dw |
13:07.24 | the-golem | yeah |
13:07.31 | Diao | berserker and start spamming devastate/HS/ww |
13:07.39 | Diao | it's quite fun |
13:07.42 | Zatar | he doesn't listen to aggro in terms of who he attacks, but if a ranged person makes it to the top of the aggro list, he moves around the room more (Aran) |
13:07.43 | the-golem | ... |
13:07.45 | Diao | with 5 sunders he has like 0 armor |
13:07.50 | the-golem | devastate isnt prot stance only? |
13:07.53 | Diao | nope |
13:07.56 | the-golem | shit |
13:07.57 | Diao | devastate can be used in any stance lol |
13:08.06 | the-golem | i cant believe i never noticed that before |
13:08.11 | Diao | it has no stance requirement ;p |
13:08.37 | Diao | just requires a 1h weap ;( |
13:08.38 | Bejitt | same for sunder |
13:08.45 | Diao | i'd love to devastate with a 2h lol |
13:08.53 | the-golem | lol |
13:08.55 | Diao | but the rage gen from dw is nice |
13:09.00 | Diao | since you can basically devastate every gcd |
13:09.03 | Diao | and still have extra rage |
13:09.22 | the-golem | yeah |
13:09.26 | the-golem | i do that alot |
13:09.33 | the-golem | 12121212 |
13:09.36 | Diao | get a nice slow weap with high top end like dragonmaw |
13:09.38 | the-golem | dev + sh |
13:09.41 | Diao | for fights like aran |
13:09.56 | Bejitt | dont forget HS :P |
13:10.01 | the-golem | i have decap from prince |
13:10.04 | the-golem | that good? :P |
13:10.04 | Diao | ah that works |
13:10.07 | the-golem | lol |
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13:10.38 | Diao | i like dragonmaw cause haste proc + abacus + dual mongoose |
13:10.43 | Diao | = very very fast HS |
13:10.46 | Diao | lol |
13:10.58 | the-golem | yeah |
13:11.02 | the-golem | both are mainhand |
13:11.10 | the-golem | or id duel wield decap and dragonmaw |
13:11.14 | Diao | er |
13:11.17 | Diao | decap is 1h isn't it? |
13:11.18 | the-golem | lol |
13:11.20 | the-golem | nope |
13:11.25 | Diao | i remember it being non-unique 1h |
13:11.46 | Diao | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28767 <- says one-hand :O |
13:11.54 | Diao | ohh |
13:11.55 | Diao | nm |
13:11.56 | Diao | patch 2.3 |
13:12.03 | Diao | it changes to 1h instead of mh |
13:12.38 | Diao | i want a decap for fun.. only thing i've never seen prince drop :( |
13:13.24 | the-golem | ooooooooh |
13:13.27 | the-golem | it does really? |
13:13.55 | Diao | hmm |
13:14.00 | Diao | with the new devastate change |
13:14.09 | Diao | i have to debate if i want imp HS or imp sunder |
13:14.11 | the-golem | Diao: would it change for all items, or only the new drops? |
13:14.19 | Diao | blizzard changes are always retroactive |
13:14.30 | Diao | so all currently existing items should change too |
13:14.38 | Ozguli` | bah, recommend me some working unitframes addon |
13:14.41 | the-golem | including the old instance items? |
13:14.43 | Diao | 8/5/48 or 10/5/46 after next patch hmm |
13:14.45 | Diao | yep |
13:14.54 | Diao | pitbull, aguf, xperl(non-ace) |
13:15.03 | Diao | those are probably the most common |
13:15.08 | Lothaer | woot got the info i needed :) time to link lvl 1 items with Executioner |
13:15.10 | Lothaer | rofl |
13:15.13 | Diao | lol |
13:15.16 | Lothaer | or maybe a mana pot with Executioner |
13:15.29 | the-golem | lol |
13:15.38 | the-golem | Diao: yeah i need to tweak myspec |
13:15.43 | the-golem | get +crit in |
13:15.52 | the-golem | but idk what to drop :-( |
13:16.20 | the-golem | i was gonna go for anger management |
13:16.20 | Diao | lol |
13:16.20 | the-golem | but |
13:16.26 | the-golem | i get crazy rage already in bosses |
13:16.31 | the-golem | its a chore to spend it |
13:16.33 | Diao | i do and i don't |
13:16.40 | Diao | sometimes |
13:16.47 | Diao | i'll get stuck unable to use up all my rage |
13:16.50 | Diao | even spamming HS in between every attac |
13:16.51 | the-golem | anger management doesnt help rage decay anymore right? |
13:16.55 | Megalon | Lothaer: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42974 |
13:16.56 | Diao | it does |
13:16.59 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r52783 10FuBar2/ (FuBar.lua FuBar_Panel.lua): FuBar2: make Jostle optional. |
13:17.00 | Megalon | wowhead already lists all the info |
13:17.02 | Ellipsis | grr, why does nobody run SH? >_> |
13:17.04 | the-golem | i mean |
13:17.05 | Diao | it works exactly the same way it worked pre-bc |
13:17.07 | Megalon | 3225 is the id in the itemstring ;) |
13:17.10 | the-golem | outta combat rage decay |
13:17.12 | Diao | out of combat you lose 2 rage instead of 3 |
13:17.18 | Diao | in combat you gain 1 per tick |
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13:17.18 | the-golem | oooh |
13:17.23 | the-golem | thats sweet |
13:17.30 | Diao | it's more of a 5man thing i think |
13:17.35 | the-golem | yeah |
13:17.36 | Diao | not all that great for raids |
13:17.47 | Diao | but yea |
13:17.48 | Diao | on my warrior |
13:17.53 | Diao | i get dodge/parry/miss strings like crazy |
13:18.01 | Diao | so sometimes after i dump all my rage building threat |
13:18.03 | Lothaer | yeah thaks megalon, i got he enchant id from there but the formula id from the dbc files |
13:18.07 | Lothaer | Executioner looks hot |
13:18.10 | Diao | i'll end up sitting there for like 20 seconds doing nothing |
13:18.14 | Diao | cause i have zero rage |
13:18.25 | the-golem | lol yeah |
13:18.45 | Diao | i think i'll probably stick to imp HS over imp sunder though |
13:19.01 | the-golem | hamstring? i forget abreviations sometimes ^^ |
13:19.01 | Diao | 9 rage devastates are nice, but since i only ever use it if ss/rev are on cd |
13:19.05 | Diao | heroic |
13:19.25 | the-golem | lol ah |
13:19.33 | Diao | best possible rotation is ss->rev->2x devas->ss again |
13:19.35 | the-golem | take both :P |
13:19.45 | Diao | while you can fit in a HS between each attack |
13:19.49 | Diao | mm |
13:19.57 | the-golem | yeah thats what i do pretty much |
13:20.11 | the-golem | when im not sundering |
13:20.16 | the-golem | but 2.3 i wont hafta sunder ^^ |
13:20.18 | Diao | i don't know what to drop though |
13:20.22 | Diao | imp taunt? |
13:20.31 | the-golem | maybe |
13:20.33 | Diao | imp taunt is nice for trash |
13:20.39 | the-golem | yeah |
13:20.40 | Diao | not all that great for bosses |
13:20.43 | the-golem | useless for bosses tho |
13:21.28 | the-golem | u ever fight curator and notice that hell occasionall smack someone else? |
13:21.36 | Diao | uhh |
13:21.39 | Diao | no |
13:21.44 | the-golem | :-( |
13:21.47 | Diao | he will cast an arcane bolt on 2nd highest agro though |
13:21.48 | Diao | every few seconds |
13:21.55 | the-golem | maybe thats it |
13:21.57 | Diao | never seen him hit anyone else though |
13:22.07 | the-golem | arcane bolt require him turning? |
13:22.09 | Diao | yea |
13:22.15 | Diao | he turns to face whoever he's casting on |
13:22.16 | the-golem | ok thats it then ^^ |
13:22.27 | Diao | i usually drop a lock or spri on him purposely to soak the bolts |
13:22.38 | Diao | so healers can just focus on 1 person eating bolts instead of a random person in the raid |
13:22.50 | the-golem | usually its melee |
13:23.07 | cncfanatics | anyone know what would cause this ? http://pastey.net/75602 |
13:23.09 | the-golem | i think, hard to tell |
13:23.10 | the-golem | ^^ |
13:23.13 | Diao | yeah they get more threat on that fight if you don't have a specific bolt soaker |
13:23.30 | Diao | hmm |
13:24.00 | Diao | stubby trying to use librock? |
13:24.58 | cncfanatics | ehm, Diao, doubt it |
13:25.44 | Diao | when did you last update o: |
13:25.56 | cncfanatics | this morning |
13:26.00 | cncfanatics | and I just installed 3 carto modules |
13:26.04 | cncfanatics | and now the error starts |
13:26.09 | cncfanatics | trying to redisable em to see if I still get it |
13:26.19 | Diao | hmm |
13:27.06 | cncfanatics | its Carto_Routes |
13:27.10 | cncfanatics | Grum, Xinhuan, ping |
13:27.22 | Xinhuan | what? |
13:27.32 | Diao | oh that would explain it |
13:27.37 | Diao | i dono't use very many cartographer modules |
13:27.40 | Diao | don't* |
13:28.13 | Xinhuan | it sounds like you should disabl stubby |
13:28.15 | Xinhuan | disable |
13:28.32 | Xinhuan | because it hooks loadaddon |
13:28.40 | cncfanatics | lets see |
13:29.10 | Xinhuan | not sure |
13:29.23 | cncfanatics | I don't see how a loadaddon hook would ever cause routes to call AddEventListener wrong but lets try anyuway |
13:29.37 | cncfanatics | same error |
13:29.41 | cncfanatics | except it stopped mentioning stubby ofc |
13:30.05 | Xinhuan | are you using embedded or dis |
13:30.11 | cncfanatics | embedded |
13:30.20 | cncfanatics | straight from files.wowace.com |
13:30.25 | cncfanatics | I don't use any updaters |
13:30.39 | Xinhuan | is carto notes on? |
13:31.04 | cncfanatics | data, mining, routes are my installed modules |
13:31.18 | Xinhuan | mining and routes both require _Notes |
13:31.32 | cncfanatics | ain't that embed by default ? |
13:31.32 | Xinhuan | notes is part of carto though |
13:31.37 | Xinhuan | i assume you didn't disembed that either? |
13:31.45 | cncfanatics | no I didn't |
13:31.48 | cncfanatics | and mining works fine |
13:32.03 | cncfanatics | on a side note |
13:32.05 | Xinhuan | i don't know then |
13:32.07 | cncfanatics | I have contracts enabled in rock |
13:32.15 | cncfanatics | so it might be an error that u don't see with contracts disabled |
13:32.21 | Xinhuan | Routes doesn't call loadaddon |
13:32.31 | Xinhuan | something is calling loadaddon |
13:32.36 | Xinhuan | you have to find that something |
13:32.36 | cncfanatics | [2007/10/21 15:14:15-1046-x1]: LibRock-1.0--48665 (LibRock-1.0):1087: Bad argument #3 to `AddEventListener'. Expected "string" or "table", got "function". |
13:32.36 | cncfanatics | [2007/10/21 15:14:15-1046-x1]: LibRock-1.0--48665 (LibRock-1.0):1087: Bad argument #3 to `AddEventListener'. Expected "string" or "table", got "function". |
13:32.50 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: cartoprobably calls it to load the _Routes |
13:32.56 | Xinhuan | :addeventlistener is a rock thing |
13:33.06 | cncfanatics | sry for spam lol |
13:33.11 | Xinhuan | don't think so, carto doesn't know routes exist |
13:33.17 | cncfanatics | ofc it does |
13:33.17 | Xinhuan | until routes loads |
13:33.22 | Lothaer | woot, when i add mongoose etc ti a helm or shoulder it they actually show the graphic rofl |
13:33.40 | Diao | lol |
13:33.45 | Xinhuan | can you check what is on line 1087? |
13:34.11 | cncfanatics | the code to trigger that errormessage most probably |
13:34.24 | Xinhuan | actually, your error message on pastey doesn't even mention routes |
13:35.02 | cncfanatics | only happens when routes enabled |
13:35.39 | cncfanatics | local ret, n = newList(object_method(...)) |
13:35.42 | cncfanatics | thats librock line 1087 |
13:35.43 | cncfanatics | weirdish |
13:35.50 | Xinhuan | o_O |
13:36.00 | Xinhuan | i really don't know then |
13:36.09 | Xinhuan | turn off contracts? |
13:40.06 | cncfanatics | I did |
13:40.08 | cncfanatics | same thing |
13:40.23 | cncfanatics | lemme /rl |
13:41.12 | cncfanatics | stopped with contracts off |
13:41.21 | cncfanatics | but contracts makes rock complain about errors it usualy ignores |
13:41.24 | cncfanatics | so u shld try to fix it anyway |
13:42.12 | Xinhuan | well it would help if librock actually says WHAT makes the error... |
13:42.22 | cncfanatics | hehe |
13:42.24 | Xinhuan | or if the callstack says so |
13:42.27 | Xinhuan | but it doesn't |
13:42.32 | cncfanatics | eeeek |
13:42.35 | cncfanatics | routes is scary |
13:42.37 | cncfanatics | on mining nodes |
13:42.41 | cncfanatics | too much nodes makes it flip |
13:43.27 | Xinhuan | are you a miner? |
13:43.28 | Xinhuan | ;p |
13:44.26 | cncfanatics | yea |
13:44.41 | cncfanatics | too much lines if I say, select adamantite, rich adamantite & khorium in nagrand |
13:44.46 | cncfanatics | whole map goes pink |
13:44.52 | Xinhuan | yeah, go hit "optimize" |
13:45.47 | Xinhuan | nagrand has quite a lot of mining nodes |
13:46.18 | cncfanatics | ah, it justs puts lines between em if u don't optimize ? :p |
13:46.35 | cncfanatics | it gives me a notice when its done optimizing ? |
13:46.45 | Xinhuan | yep |
13:46.57 | cncfanatics | k |
13:46.58 | cncfanatics | cheers |
13:46.58 | Xinhuan | it just draws a silly route on creation |
13:47.16 | Xinhuan | since the idea is not to hang the user |
13:47.50 | cncfanatics | much better xD |
13:48.24 | Xinhuan | how long did it take |
13:48.38 | Xinhuan | the background stuff usually takes 4x as long as the foreground |
13:49.00 | cncfanatics | 100.62 seconds, for eversong woods |
13:49.04 | CIA-12 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r52785 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: ace3 branch: Moved some stuff around |
13:49.09 | Xinhuan | wow your pc must be really old |
13:49.10 | cncfanatics | thats 113 nodes |
13:49.13 | Ellipsis | OMGOMGOMG |
13:49.16 | Fisker- | ag` is hatable |
13:49.20 | cncfanatics | 4-5 years |
13:49.24 | Ellipsis | I got the recipe I farmed all day for |
13:49.28 | Xinhuan | cos 360 nodes barely takes 20 secs for me ;p |
13:49.32 | Ellipsis | except I got it on an accidental kill :| |
13:49.49 | cncfanatics | 4-5 years old, pentium 4 2.6Ghz with 1gig ram |
13:50.22 | Fisker- | you are easy to hate Ellipsis |
13:50.30 | cncfanatics | slight problem Xinhuan |
13:50.39 | cncfanatics | the lines from routes have a strata higher then the minimap dots for ores |
13:50.44 | Ellipsis | Fisker-, ilu2 |
13:50.48 | cncfanatics | so they're over the dot, which is a bit unhandy |
13:50.53 | Xinhuan | grum says he can't fix that withour rewriting _Notes |
13:51.46 | Xinhuan | or maybe the default UI |
13:51.54 | Xinhuan | since the lines are drawn on the "BACKGROUND" strata already |
13:52.07 | Xinhuan | and you can't go lower than that |
13:52.19 | cncfanatics | put em in ARTWORK ? think its lower |
13:52.20 | cncfanatics | :unsure: |
13:52.43 | Xinhuan | dunno, well i'm not a miner |
13:52.44 | Xinhuan | can you test it? |
13:52.50 | nevcairiel | you can always play around with framelevel too |
13:52.50 | cncfanatics | sure |
13:53.04 | Xinhuan | there is a functino call in DrawMinimapLines() |
13:53.08 | cncfanatics | what file is strata & framelevl declared ? |
13:53.16 | Xinhuan | it says G:Drawline(etc etc) |
13:53.22 | Xinhuan | in core.lua |
13:53.37 | Xinhuan | the lines are created in GraphLib-1.0 |
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13:54.07 | Xinhuan | we merely call G:Drawline(frame, x, y, x2, y2, width, color, strata) or something |
13:54.09 | cncfanatics | can't find BACKGROUND anywhere |
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13:54.38 | Xinhuan | ok line 230 |
13:54.43 | Xinhuan | change "OVERLAY" |
13:54.46 | Xinhuan | to something lower |
13:54.52 | Xinhuan | and tell me if it works |
13:55.05 | cncfanatics | sec |
13:55.08 | cncfanatics | let me find out what the dots are |
13:55.37 | the-golem | soooo |
13:55.39 | Xinhuan | looks like our lines are drawn on "overlay" |
13:55.47 | the-golem | "advanced color picker" |
13:55.59 | the-golem | can i get that on curse? |
13:57.16 | cncfanatics | the dots are in BACKGROUND |
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13:57.28 | Xinhuan | so.. hmm |
13:57.32 | cncfanatics | just did GetMouseFocus():GetFrameStrata() on a dot |
13:57.45 | Xinhuan | if we draw the lines on "BACKGROUND" too, the ordering would be messy |
13:58.02 | cncfanatics | depends on the frame level |
13:58.03 | Xinhuan | is artwork lower than background? |
13:58.09 | nevcairiel | artwork is the lowest |
13:58.22 | Xinhuan | worth a shot then |
13:58.39 | cncfanatics | lemme try |
13:58.44 | cncfanatics | just line 230 one right |
13:58.47 | Xinhuan | yeah |
13:58.48 | cncfanatics | there's also one a few lines lower |
13:58.54 | Xinhuan | that one draws on the battlemap |
13:59.04 | cncfanatics | shld stay overlay :) |
13:59.18 | cncfanatics | freaky calculations btw |
13:59.18 | Xinhuan | oh wait |
13:59.23 | Xinhuan | wrong function |
13:59.29 | Xinhuan | revert line 230 |
13:59.46 | Xinhuan | should be line 696 |
13:59.49 | Xinhuan | sorry :) |
13:59.55 | Xinhuan | line 230 draws on the world map |
14:00.06 | Xinhuan | 233 on battlemap, 696 on minimap |
14:00.38 | Xinhuan | can see the Minimap argument on argument #1 on line 696 |
14:00.45 | the-golem | pshhhhhhhh |
14:00.50 | cncfanatics | hmmmz |
14:00.56 | cncfanatics | I hope the lines won't end up behind the minimap |
14:01.31 | cncfanatics | its behind with ARTWORK strata |
14:01.36 | cncfanatics | behind the dots that is, so good :) |
14:01.52 | Xinhuan | so the lines are now behind the dots, but still above the map? |
14:01.55 | cncfanatics | yea |
14:02.12 | cncfanatics | dots are still ahrd to spot though, but thats because their color is anoying |
14:02.19 | Xinhuan | hah |
14:02.26 | Xinhuan | the color is yellow isn't it? |
14:02.28 | Xinhuan | by default |
14:02.43 | cncfanatics | pinkish-yellow |
14:02.48 | cncfanatics | something between those 2 |
14:02.54 | Xinhuan | no i mean the node itself |
14:03.21 | cncfanatics | ah yea, yellow |
14:03.40 | Xinhuan | change the default line color if you wish to ;p |
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14:04.48 | cncfanatics | just making em smaller is enough |
14:05.14 | Xinhuan | grum intended to add being able to change the default line width/colors for minimap/battlemap |
14:05.17 | cncfanatics | does it add new nodes to the route ? |
14:05.20 | Xinhuan | seperate from the worldmap |
14:05.22 | Xinhuan | yeah it does |
14:05.32 | Xinhuan | but only if you selected that node type initially |
14:05.34 | Xinhuan | when creating that route |
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14:05.43 | cncfanatics | only copper in this zone so :) |
14:05.47 | Xinhuan | it just tries to insert the node at the best place |
14:05.55 | Xinhuan | doesn't try to optimize the route |
14:06.05 | cncfanatics | the node was near a line anyway, so its fine |
14:06.20 | cncfanatics | damn nice addon :) |
14:07.28 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r52786 10Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Change drawn lines on minimap from OVERLAY to ARTWORK strata so that they get drawn underneath nodes (thanks cncfanatics) |
14:07.28 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r52787 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: correct .toc for deps |
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14:07.57 | Xinhuan | there |
14:07.57 | miica | ooh is there many ace3 addon already? |
14:08.25 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, the default width of lines on the minimap shld be very small also imo |
14:08.39 | Xinhuan | you gonna have to bug grum about that one |
14:08.50 | Xinhuan | to add the option to change it |
14:09.34 | Xinhuan | well he said he wanted to add it 2 days ago |
14:10.36 | miica | is there ace3 addon list somewhere ^^ |
14:11.07 | cncfanatics | miica, there are no ace3 addons yet as far as I know |
14:11.26 | miica | :< |
14:11.32 | the-golem | Arcaia: ping |
14:11.46 | a^i`SmaN | so what is the matter with the aguf's ace3 tag ? :) |
14:12.04 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r52788 10Ace3/Ace3.toc: Ace3: load whole config-3.0 in one go instead of all separate |
14:12.11 | a^i`SmaN | yah, this one |
14:12.22 | cncfanatics | thats a branch |
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14:12.45 | Xinhuan | the orange words means its under development |
14:12.51 | Xinhuan | and not anywhere near released yet |
14:13.20 | nevcairiel | ace3 will be officially alpha in a not so distant future, and we've some devs testing it on some addons already |
14:14.29 | cncfanatics | btw nevcairiel |
14:14.37 | cncfanatics | I ninjad ur dreamlayout code for a flexbar module, hope you don't mind ? |
14:14.38 | nevcairiel | we just wanted to get config going before alpha, so thats whats being worked on now :) |
14:14.42 | Xinhuan | basically its current in a stage that isn't quite alpha yet |
14:15.14 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: it's almost alpha |
14:15.16 | [Ammo] | the core libs are |
14:15.17 | the-golem | ... |
14:15.19 | [Ammo] | the config isn't |
14:15.23 | Xinhuan | hence "not quite alpha yet" :) |
14:15.31 | [Ammo] | not quite implies quite far from |
14:15.32 | the-golem | ECP is blah |
14:15.34 | [Ammo] | which is not true |
14:15.39 | cncfanatics | can you namespace events in ace3 ? |
14:15.41 | Xinhuan | semantics pfft |
14:15.52 | the-golem | scale is not 0-255 |
14:15.52 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: no, we decided not to do that |
14:16.06 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: you do separate blizzard events from addon messages |
14:16.34 | [Ammo] | and with callbackhandler-1.0 you can have your own event system internal to your addon |
14:16.43 | cncfanatics | oooh :o |
14:17.55 | cncfanatics | how is the slashcommand system ? currently I use my own |
14:18.13 | [Ammo] | there is a simple slashcommand register |
14:18.19 | [Ammo] | and tehre is a splitargs functikon |
14:18.22 | [Ammo] | to get your args |
14:18.33 | [Ammo] | options table -> slashcommand is being worked on |
14:18.39 | [Ammo] | but is a separate aceconfigslash lib |
14:19.52 | cncfanatics | well, currently I have commands in this format |
14:19.59 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
14:20.20 | cncfanatics | I'll keep using my own handler I guess or will ther be a library for that type of commands ? |
14:20.34 | [Ammo] | there is a the standard aceconsole for that |
14:20.50 | [Ammo] | which has an argument splitter |
14:20.54 | [Ammo] | that you can use |
14:21.20 | cncfanatics | I guess the code in it would be pretty similar to my own |
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14:21.31 | cncfanatics | but, at least it'd be reused, intresting |
14:22.11 | CIA-12 | 03jayhawk * r52789 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (4 files): |
14:22.11 | CIA-12 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
14:22.11 | CIA-12 | - updated TOC, added demon icons |
14:22.19 | cncfanatics | I need to get reading code :p |
14:22.27 | Balstor | so cncfanatics is the update for the ptr ready yet???? (macro highlighting) (and buff/debuff matching off more than icon name) hunh hunh??? |
14:22.37 | Balstor | poke poke |
14:22.40 | cncfanatics | I can't go on PTR |
14:22.56 | cncfanatics | char copy messed up all the time for some reason |
14:22.59 | cncfanatics | might try again soonish |
14:23.14 | Balstor | with this level of fail are you sure your main isn't a druid??? |
14:23.42 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r52790 10Ace3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Ace3: Fix AceComm-3.0 with a .xml and add to .toc |
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14:24.19 | Balstor | hmm nice sword graphics http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/MoreWeapons23.jpg |
14:25.20 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r52791 10Ace3/AceComm-3.0/AceComm-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceComm is not AceEvent |
14:25.35 | Balstor | okay UI/programming question, I have a frame containg a seriers of boxes (text) is there a simple way to have the main frame resize based on it's contents??? |
14:26.33 | [Ammo] | request size of the underlying frames add em and apply total size to your main frame |
14:26.43 | [Ammo] | keep in mind scaling probably if you're dealing with strings |
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14:27.25 | Balstor | sigh i was afraid that was the solution |
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14:29.51 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r52792 10Ace3/tests/AceComm-3.0.lua: |
14:29.51 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - tests: |
14:29.51 | CIA-12 | - Make AceComm spew less garbage unless "VERBOSE" is set. |
14:32.38 | the-golem | *sigh* |
14:32.43 | the-golem | anyone use EnhCP? |
14:32.50 | Balstor | cncfanatics try this addon http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9485/ |
14:34.42 | CIA-12 | 03simlan * r52793 10ActionCombat/ (ActionCombat.lua Locale_deDE.lua Locale_enUS.lua): ActionCombat: Minor FuBar menu and localization changes |
14:36.48 | Balstor | !last Cryect |
14:36.55 | Balstor | ~last Cryect |
14:37.06 | Stanzilla | ~seen Cryect |
14:37.07 | purl | cryect <n=fefsd@pool-72-95-251-159.pitbpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 50d 14h 5m 9s ago, saying: 'charon: it can't tell the difference between mobs of the same name (you don't get any unit id for them or anything) so he couldn't do that'. |
14:37.14 | Stanzilla | bam! |
14:37.51 | Balstor | 50 days !!!! |
14:38.14 | vithos | that takes dedication. |
14:38.49 | Balstor | sigh i need to find where to report graphlib + recount bug :( |
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14:51.16 | Balstor | the files.wowace.com should have a version that has a column that shows the last changelog entry |
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15:50.37 | Paradox | ckknight: can you change it so when I right click the party-targets frames it targets the target for attack/focus ? instead of opening the pitbull menu |
15:51.51 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52795 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-zhTW.lua: |
15:51.51 | CIA-12 | Quartz: |
15:51.51 | CIA-12 | - Update zhTW translation. |
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15:52.52 | Ellipsis | Paradox: what's wrong with left-clicking them? o.O |
15:53.06 | Paradox | left clicking doesn't start auto attacking them :( |
15:54.07 | Ellipsis | use a click casting addon then |
15:55.05 | Paradox | if I installed an extra addon for every tiny thing i'd be running with 200 addons.. |
15:55.12 | Paradox | merely a request for a logical change :/ |
15:55.20 | Ellipsis | how is that logical? |
15:55.30 | Ellipsis | anyone who isn't melee doesn't want to auto-attack anything ever o.O |
15:55.51 | dylanm | Yeah I'm not sure that Pitbull should be rolling that into the core. |
15:56.18 | Paradox | but it's on right-click that I want it |
15:56.29 | Paradox | if you don't want to auto attack just left click D: |
15:56.31 | Ellipsis | there are addons to accomplish that, it doesn't make sense for most users |
15:56.43 | Ellipsis | when I right click a frame I expect a dropdown menu, not autoattack :/ |
15:56.46 | xyu | http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1226166 |
15:57.07 | Paradox | yeah but there is no drop down menu for party targets, instead it opens the pitbull config :/ |
15:57.34 | Paradox | I keep right clicking it expecting it to attack the unit I don't know why it just seems like it should to me.. |
15:57.50 | Ellipsis | *no* unit frame right clicks auto-attack |
15:57.51 | Paradox | at least target them instead of opening the menu anyway D: |
15:58.45 | Ellipsis | ~seen Babusama |
15:58.48 | purl | babusama is currently on #wowace (1d 9h 14m 34s), last said: 'does WAU allow you to select a stable branch to choose from?'. |
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16:02.37 | Firelemming | how do i destroy a frame completly so that it is also out of the memory? |
16:02.44 | dylanm | Can't be done. |
16:03.39 | Firelemming | hmm, so on OnDisable you cant actualy remove the gui part of the addon from the memory? |
16:04.04 | Ellipsis | nope, once you create a frame it's there to stay |
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16:05.02 | Firelemming | wierd think though is that when i do the Hide() in the OnDisable it doesnt work |
16:05.08 | Firelemming | -think |
16:06.20 | dylanm | Is that some Ace thing |
16:06.32 | Firelemming | yeah |
16:07.00 | Firelemming | you have a OnInitialize, OnEnable, OnDisable |
16:07.14 | Shirik | Are you trying to disable in combat? |
16:07.22 | Firelemming | nope |
16:08.58 | Firelemming | seems i have to do a ReloadUI to see the effect of disabling the addon |
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16:10.53 | Ozguli` | Does pitbull have some real conf? |
16:11.04 | aestil | ping, ellipsis |
16:11.09 | aestil | real conf? |
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16:11.37 | Ozguli` | without horrible waterfall structure |
16:11.58 | weab | why isn't waterfall "real" |
16:12.22 | aestil | Ozguli`: no. use something else if you can't configure pitbull with the provided tools. |
16:12.41 | aestil | you know alt + right click on the frame you want to configure will jump you to that frames config screen? |
16:13.07 | Ozguli` | That wasn't mentioned anywhere |
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16:26.46 | Pkekyo | wtb the good old days with dropdown menus |
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16:28.29 | dylanm | Oh yeah I pretty much want to replace OS X with Dewdrop. |
16:28.52 | dylanm | Maybe that's the double-secret feature in Leopard :o |
16:29.47 | Tuller | of course! |
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16:33.43 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r52796 10CastYeller/announces/warlock.lua: CastYeller: zhTW msg update |
16:34.43 | Ellipsis | aestil <3 |
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16:36.49 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52797 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-zhTW.lua: |
16:36.49 | CIA-12 | Quartz: |
16:36.49 | CIA-12 | - Update zhTW translation. thanks lahow@baha (purple) |
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16:42.27 | CIA-12 | 03evenue * r52799 10TradeskillInfo/ (. TradeskillInfo.toc embeds.xml): |
16:42.27 | CIA-12 | TradeskillInfo: |
16:42.27 | CIA-12 | -Minor tweaks |
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16:53.27 | Infineon | hi there |
16:53.51 | Infineon | one question. my pitbull party frames only show those ppl which are in my group AND also in the mt targets |
16:53.56 | Infineon | other ppl are hidden |
16:54.01 | Infineon | any known bug? |
16:54.45 | Infineon | and if i say hide main tank targets all ppl in my group also disappear |
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16:59.23 | aestil | Ellipsis: what bag mod? |
16:59.54 | aestil | Infineon: enable the raid frames? |
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17:03.20 | Chompers | and that stupid 'unknown' disconnection bug has started again |
17:03.31 | Chompers | grrr |
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17:08.31 | BeheritVII | sorry got pc reset5 |
17:08.46 | BeheritVII | anyone said something to my problem? |
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17:12.13 | aestil | Ellipsis: wtf. baggins i think. but noooooo i can't understand how to configure it. halp mae |
17:13.33 | Balstor_ | msg cncfanatics U there? |
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17:20.33 | Zhinjio | yay! snow! |
17:21.24 | cncfanatics | Balstor_, yea |
17:22.27 | Balstor | i found a new bug, minor anoyance on intialization |
17:22.49 | BeheritVII | who could i message for my pitbull problem!? |
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17:24.08 | Balstor | i define a key binding alt-h and i then bind it to my mouse, when i first log in, the binding doesn't work, if i click the button, then the bindings work. |
17:24.56 | aestil | anyone. |
17:24.59 | aestil | ~asktoask |
17:25.00 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
17:25.32 | BeheritVII | as said |
17:25.42 | BeheritVII | my pitbull party is linked to my pitbull maintanks |
17:25.52 | BeheritVII | so i only see ppl which are MTs in my party |
17:25.56 | BeheritVII | all others are hidden |
17:26.10 | BeheritVII | even if i disable maintank targets my complete party frames get empty |
17:26.17 | BeheritVII | i dont know why |
17:26.45 | Zhinjio | BeheritVII: If you disable using pitbull for your MT frames, does it still happen? |
17:27.09 | BeheritVII | if is disable without reloading ui it still is |
17:27.12 | BeheritVII | could try other way |
17:27.18 | BeheritVII | but interestung is |
17:27.26 | BeheritVII | if i scale my party frame |
17:27.40 | BeheritVII | those ppl which are MTs and in my party got their MT frame resized too |
17:27.54 | Zhinjio | I remember seeing this awhile ago as well. |
17:28.09 | Zhinjio | so I stopped using Pitbull for my MT frames, I now use oRA instead. |
17:28.14 | Zhinjio | and it stopped happening. |
17:28.25 | BeheritVII | so i now deleted my config for mt and party |
17:28.32 | BeheritVII | will reconfigure and take a look |
17:28.51 | CIA-12 | 03gamefaq * r52800 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (PartyNotify/deDE.lua PlayerNotify/deDE.lua): |
17:28.51 | CIA-12 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
17:28.51 | CIA-12 | - deDE Update |
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17:31.21 | Saroz | Hrrm, the castbar in pitbull doesnt work if you switch to a target casting |
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17:32.24 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52801 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ (FuBar_ReagentFu.toc ReagentFuLocals-zhTW.lua): |
17:32.24 | CIA-12 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
17:32.24 | CIA-12 | - toc to 20200 |
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17:44.07 | aestil_ | Ellipsis: you there? |
17:50.21 | aestil_ | Xinhuan, Grum: is it possible, that tiny little 'arrow' graphics could be put on the line in routes? perhaps it could be optional, and reversable? |
17:50.32 | aestil_ | occasionally, it gets confusing as to which direction you were going. |
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17:51.51 | Funkeh` | hey |
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17:55.24 | CIA-12 | 03drool * r52802 10Nauticus/ (27 files in 3 dirs): |
17:55.24 | CIA-12 | Nauticus: initial commit |
17:55.24 | CIA-12 | - Track arrival & departure schedules of boats and Zeppelins around Azeroth and displays them on the Mini-Map & World Map |
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18:02.40 | CIA-12 | 03drool * r52804 10Nauticus/: |
18:02.40 | CIA-12 | Nauticus: |
18:02.40 | CIA-12 | - added externals |
18:02.57 | aestil_ | what is dbmftlbbq? |
18:03.03 | aestil_ | spoofs dbm? |
18:03.06 | Saroz | y |
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18:06.26 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_102107_133441.jpg |
18:06.54 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52805 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon: add deDE by anahid |
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18:09.54 | Klazar | looking for a PVP Kill Report To Guild Chat Channel addon. |
18:10.57 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52806 10FuBar_ReagentFu/FuBar_ReagentFu.toc: |
18:10.57 | CIA-12 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
18:10.57 | CIA-12 | -Added X-Embeds |
18:13.01 | the-golem | hi |
18:13.28 | aestil_ | is there a fix for the xloot huge loot frame issue? |
18:13.34 | FireAllianceNX | um where is this WAU 2.0 that is mentioned in the topic? |
18:15.12 | ulic | ~wau2 |
18:15.13 | purl | it has been said that wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
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18:17.14 | FireAllianceNX | Thank you, I missed it ^^ |
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18:21.37 | the-golem | 99,00hi peoples99,99 |
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18:23.41 | aestil_ | green writing? |
18:24.19 | aestil_ | i didin't know it was possible. |
18:25.04 | FireAllianceNX | ctrl + k ? |
18:25.26 | FireAllianceNX | guess that doesn't work on ChatZilla >.> |
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18:34.33 | Thrae | Alright, I think I'm going to experiment with multiple raid types on the same set of physical disks, just different partitions. |
18:34.59 | many | wtf |
18:35.18 | aestil_ | wth |
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18:42.36 | aestil_ | hah, i rezied my game rez and it didn't change. |
18:42.43 | CIA-12 | 03borlox * r52807 10Layout-1.0/: |
18:42.43 | CIA-12 | Layout-1.0: |
18:42.43 | CIA-12 | - delete empty folder |
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18:43.47 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, ping ? |
18:43.50 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
18:43.52 | purl | nargiddley is currently on #wowi-lounge (23h 25m 58s) #wowace (23h 25m 58s). Has said a total of 40 messages. Is idling for 8h 50m 59s, last said: 'I can only speak for ConfigDialog, but going really well'. |
18:49.14 | Fisker- | nymbia don't relax around me btw |
18:49.19 | ckknight | Paradox: use something like Click2Cast or Clique, it's not something that belongs in PitBull |
18:49.42 | Paradox | ok :( |
18:49.58 | _rane | how do you use a trinket in a macro? |
18:50.11 | sica | ./use 13 |
18:50.38 | sica | or /use 14, depending on the slot of the trinket |
18:51.17 | _rane | thanks |
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18:53.44 | Toadkiller | So does anyone know about the parenting check BLizzard added? FOr example if you use SetPoint you can get an error if you have some other frame depending on you. So like, what is the proper way of using Setpoint in such a case? |
18:57.28 | CIA-12 | 03gamefaq * r52808 10FishingAce/Locale-deDE.lua: |
18:57.28 | CIA-12 | FishingAce: |
18:57.28 | CIA-12 | - deDE Update |
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19:06.10 | haste | vhaarr: ping |
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19:08.05 | vhaarr | haste: pong |
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19:08.18 | aestil_ | anyone use avion? I get an error trying to set up a graphic for when my icon of the silver cresecent cools, i get an error at log in about someting in avion cooldowns not being registered with Ace2. |
19:08.58 | haste | vhaarr: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7142-oGlow.html#cmnt52296 << on which side should we solve this one :) ? |
19:09.21 | Fisker- | :( |
19:09.33 | vhaarr | haste: I'll fix it on my side |
19:09.40 | Fisker- | one does not simply divide me by zero |
19:09.42 | vhaarr | haste: what should I call/check for |
19:09.49 | vhaarr | haste: is there a global "oGlow" object? |
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19:10.18 | haste | vhaarr: oGlow is pretty much local only |
19:10.32 | vhaarr | haste: so give me something to call to deactivate oGlow |
19:10.36 | vhaarr | or something |
19:11.03 | vhaarr | haste: I already do the same thing to Fizzle |
19:11.11 | vhaarr | maybe you don't know it, but it's basically the exact same thing as oGlow |
19:11.18 | vhaarr | only it's on the SVN, so it doesn't suck |
19:11.20 | vhaarr | like your addon |
19:11.31 | haste | I knew about it, but it went into the book of the forgotten ages ago :p |
19:11.40 | vhaarr | ^^ |
19:12.05 | aestil_ | ~!c us darkspear baosroth |
19:12.32 | vhaarr | haste: well until you tell me how to deactivate/activate your addon for the character frame, I can't do anything about it |
19:12.36 | aestil_ | ~thraebot |
19:12.37 | purl | thraebot is, like, nowhere to be found! |
19:12.43 | aestil_ | damnit! |
19:12.43 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten * r52809 10/branches/KC_ChatLink/ (. Ace3/ Ace3/KC_ChatLink.lua Ace3/KC_ChatLink.toc): KC_ChatLink: Initial import. |
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19:13.24 | FireAllianceNX | mmmAce3 |
19:13.26 | haste | vhaarr: trying to think of a easy way to solve it, without making it a torture on both sides |
19:13.28 | vhaarr | haste: obviously if you'd rather fix it on your side, that would be fine with me |
19:13.42 | vhaarr | but since I already hook into Fizzle, I might as well do oGlow |
19:14.24 | haste | I'll take a look at CG and poke the issue a little then |
19:14.36 | aestil_ | i hypothesize that haste and rabbit is the same person in actuality, and is carrying on a conversation with himself, for the purpose of entertaining the channel. |
19:14.36 | haste | possibly a patch by tomorrow :) |
19:14.52 | Fisker- | i disagree Aens|Superiority |
19:14.54 | Fisker- | crap |
19:14.59 | Fisker- | i disagree aestil_ |
19:15.04 | aestil_ | wtf! |
19:15.08 | aestil_ | why am i not registered |
19:15.32 | Chompers | stupid solarian |
19:15.36 | Chompers | she must DIE |
19:15.36 | vhaarr | haste: cool |
19:15.51 | aestil_ | Chompers: you mean, easy solarian? free epics solarian? |
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19:22.38 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r52810 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: Stop fishing and restore defaults on logout and disable |
19:24.21 | Ozguli | hmm. |
19:24.34 | Ozguli | KillingSpree addon's sounds aren't working properly .\ |
19:25.09 | Ozguli | found it from aceupdater |
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19:28.03 | Turkagent | HI iw as wondering if i could get some macro help from anyone |
19:28.50 | Ozguli | Macros? You lazy ... ! |
19:29.02 | Turkagent | lol |
19:29.25 | Ozguli | every class needs max 4 buttons in pve and about 7 in pvp |
19:29.38 | Turkagent | Im trying to figure out how to chain macros so that one macro can link to another |
19:29.55 | Ozguli | I don't think you can |
19:30.06 | JoshBorke | spriest needs 7 buttons! |
19:30.07 | Ozguli | macros were nerfed in some patch, maybe in the burning crusade one |
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19:36.40 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r52811 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: store sound information in SV, to survive a /rl |
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19:41.47 | cncfanatics | Balstor, ping |
19:43.15 | FireAllianceNX | yay pitbull error >.> |
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19:46.20 | SG|Ensey | Does the fade effect on pitbull frames, take less to have running? |
19:46.27 | SG|Ensey | ... making it more lightweight.. |
19:46.55 | JoshBorke | sure, turn it off if you don't want it |
19:48.06 | aestil | Ellipsis: ping |
19:48.15 | aestil | JoshBorke: you're a SP right? |
19:48.42 | JoshBorke | yes |
19:48.57 | aestil | as far as you know, MF coeefficent sucks because of the snare right? |
19:49.14 | JoshBorke | the coefficient sucks? |
19:49.25 | aestil | because of the snare, its range is 20 yards, it can't crit, it breaks on dmg, and its coefficient sucks. |
19:49.46 | aestil | it should be around 85% |
19:50.18 | aestil | 3 second cast. 85% or so coeffficient. instead its a 57% coefficient. |
19:50.56 | aestil | thats alot of 'tradeoffs' for a snare which has substantially descreased utility in PvP than it used to, and almost 0 utlity in raid. |
19:51.07 | FireAllianceNX | is there Target of Target of Target in Pitbull? |
19:51.20 | aestil | firiealliancenx, yes |
19:51.49 | FireAllianceNX | my eyesight must be giving out >.< |
19:52.00 | aestil | FireAllianceNX: under 'extra' modules, or osmething like that. |
19:52.04 | aestil | its not enabled by default. |
19:52.07 | FireAllianceNX | yeah, i got it after I asked lol |
19:52.20 | FireAllianceNX | thanks :) |
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19:57.47 | FireAllianceNX | sorry for the stupid question, new to pitbull :) |
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20:00.37 | aestil | if MF couldn't break on dmg, crit, and had a normal coefficient, SP's would still be easy to kill in PvP. |
20:00.43 | aestil | but that would be too big a PvE buff. |
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20:02.12 | aestil | so i think that MF should be a base priest spell, and deeper in Shadow tree should be imp MF. 2 choices, one is to increase its range, and lose the snare/increase the coeffecient to the correct level. and the other way should make the range stay the same, make it not break on dmg, and have it be able to crit. |
20:04.27 | Bloodspirit | can someone tell me how i can make my mod auto onload if the player class isnt a warrior? |
20:04.36 | Bloodspirit | unload even |
20:05.10 | CIA-12 | 03art3mis * r52812 10cyCircled_Pooh/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
20:05.10 | CIA-12 | cyCircled_Pooh |
20:05.10 | CIA-12 | - Initial Commit |
20:05.10 | CIA-12 | - Hunny Pots! |
20:05.25 | aestil | just go to the addons screen when you log in, and uncheck that mod for the specific character you don't want it to load for |
20:05.49 | Bloodspirit | that one i know but i want the mod to unload it self :) |
20:05.52 | aestil | addons has a drop down dialog at the top, all, or a specfic characer. |
20:13.25 | Arrowmaster | if select(2,UnitClass("player")) ~= "WARRIOR" then return end |
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20:14.19 | dylanm | Like combat fading or something? |
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20:17.25 | Bloodspirit | thx Arrowmaster ill go try it :) |
20:17.46 | Bloodspirit | dylanm, i have made a small battle shout mod :) |
20:17.49 | Zhinjio | cyCircled changed something that broke Bongos ability to switch bars with forms (paging) |
20:17.58 | Zhinjio | 3 days ago |
20:18.56 | Zhinjio | which is to say, bongos is actually working fine. the skin on the bar is broken |
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20:21.27 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cycircled-pooh.jpg |
20:23.15 | CIA-12 | 03nymbia * r52813 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (6 files in 5 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Automated dataminer update |
20:25.30 | Ozguli | ugly |
20:26.09 | art3mis | why ugly? |
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20:26.48 | Ozguli | they're not smooth |
20:27.09 | hyperChipmunk | i think that's jpeg |
20:27.38 | Ozguli | no, I mean the small images don't fit |
20:28.04 | art3mis | actually they do |
20:28.23 | Ozguli | nicely hm... |
20:28.25 | art3mis | its the transperancy that "hides" the orange bands thier corners disappear into |
20:28.33 | art3mis | which im gonna fix up |
20:28.55 | Ozguli | good |
20:30.01 | art3mis | doing a white to alpha made it lok decent in the editor winder |
20:30.08 | art3mis | in game though... |
20:30.31 | Ozguli | you should see me irl if I'm about to explain something |
20:30.53 | art3mis | do you have boobs and a nice ass and tend to get naked before doing so? |
20:31.03 | art3mis | if not i can live without seeing you ;P |
20:31.09 | Ozguli | none of those |
20:31.16 | Ozguli | especially I lack the boobs |
20:31.35 | Hjalte | art3mis: now the million dollar questions - why would anyone have hunny pots in their UI? (except bears - haha) |
20:31.46 | Hjalte | question -s* |
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20:33.15 | Ozguli | more like I'd make no sense at all, and try to fix it by poking you |
20:33.17 | Zhinjio | art3mis, you don't have anything to do with cyCircled dev in general, do you? |
20:33.28 | Ozguli | or waving my hands |
20:33.41 | Arrowmaster | he just makes very disturbing themes |
20:33.52 | Zhinjio | heh |
20:33.57 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/pooh-ui.jpg <-- like this |
20:34.04 | Zhinjio | yeah< I saw that. |
20:34.22 | art3mis | thats it's purpose more or less ;P |
20:34.30 | Zhinjio | oh, I saw the buttons. damn, duide. |
20:34.32 | art3mis | and no i have nadda to do with the actual addon |
20:34.40 | Ozguli | okay that IS disturbing |
20:34.47 | Fisker- | holy shit art3mis |
20:34.51 | Fisker- | you go to hell and die |
20:35.05 | Ozguli | and compared with the character... |
20:35.16 | Fisker- | that tigger minimap totally made me want to destroy you |
20:35.18 | Hjalte | art3mis: That's kind of cool |
20:35.19 | art3mis | in raelity fisker is sitting at home hopping in his chair clapping his hands like a little kid singing the tigger song |
20:35.36 | Ozguli | wait a moment I'll search you the thing |
20:35.54 | durcyn | yeah well, fisker can yiff in hell with the other furries |
20:36.56 | Fisker- | HEY FU |
20:36.59 | Ozguli | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=159&Set=64 |
20:37.01 | Ozguli | That |
20:37.03 | CIA-12 | 03nymbia * r52814 10Sniff/Sniff.lua: |
20:37.03 | CIA-12 | Sniff: |
20:37.03 | CIA-12 | - Print a message when the server gives us no data. |
20:37.10 | cryogen | lol wtf @ how long autobar is on my shaman by default |
20:37.17 | art3mis | laugh Oz |
20:37.53 | Fisker- | btw does blizzard take screenshots for interface shots? |
20:39.24 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r52815 10Skillet/Skillet.lua: |
20:39.24 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
20:39.24 | CIA-12 | - SKL-21: Make Skillet behave pretty much the same way the default |
20:39.24 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
20:40.43 | CIA-12 | 03sutorix * r52816 10FishingAce/ (FishingAce.lua FishingAce.toc): FishingAce: make auto lure now work more than once |
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20:44.42 | Orionshock | morning all |
20:44.49 | Orionshock | Tekkub: ping :P |
20:45.30 | Tekkub | what? |
20:46.05 | Zhinjio | Hey Orionshock |
20:46.26 | Orionshock | hi Zhinjio |
20:46.47 | Orionshock | tek i took the time to make the plugin last night.. |
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20:47.17 | Tekkub | k... |
20:47.37 | Ozguli | Any Killing Spree author here? |
20:47.56 | Ozguli | Or anyone who knows about it... Can't hear the sounds |
20:48.02 | Orionshock | so what name did you want it to be called? |
20:48.12 | Tekkub | it? |
20:48.16 | Tekkub | the callback? |
20:48.46 | Ozguli | the WAAGH |
20:48.53 | Pkekyo | at what temperatures does aluminum melt? |
20:48.58 | Zhinjio | hhahaa. |
20:48.59 | Orionshock | ya |
20:49.06 | Tekkub | TourGuide.UpdateFubarPlugin(text, texture) work for you? |
20:49.38 | Ozguli | 933.47 K Pkekyo |
20:49.42 | Zhinjio | 660.37 degrees C |
20:49.45 | Orionshock | add tooltip? |
20:49.49 | Ozguli | 660.32 °C, 1220.58 °F |
20:49.59 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Pkekyo: google could have told you that. be less lazy :P |
20:50.40 | Tekkub | Orionshock, you need the tooltip text too? |
20:51.32 | Orionshock | well the intent is to hide the origional frame altogether, sorry it's annoying that it move around alot and dosn't word wrap. |
20:52.11 | Tekkub | do you need the tip text passed or are you querying it yourself? |
20:52.33 | Orionshock | i could query it myself.... |
20:52.57 | Tekkub | just asking cause I have it already at that point :P |
20:53.20 | Orionshock | ok pass it then |
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20:53.51 | Tekkub | okey, I pass (text, texture, note) then |
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20:56.23 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r648 10/trunk/TourGuide/StatusFrame.lua: TourGuide - Adding callback support for Orionshock's Fubar plugin |
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20:56.35 | Orionshock | :D |
20:56.54 | Ozguli | Gnaa I have to defrag |
20:57.32 | Ozguli | this 14g of data I downloaded at the lan party I was at doesn't seem nicely arranged |
20:58.13 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSan1: meh...just wondered if I should bother sitting here with the soda can and the goddamn lighter anymore :> |
21:02.30 | NightHawkTheSan1 | I hate dull knives. >< |
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21:04.31 | art3mis | hrm new autobar doesnt seem to like the cycircled skinning anymore |
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21:07.15 | Zhinjio | why do I get an error from tablet indiciating I can only add a category inside a registration? and yet I see examples of where it isn't done that way in alot of other code |
21:07.17 | Cyrez | art3mis: This'll sound strange, but switch to a r51xxx version of AutoBar, start up, exit out, then switch back to the latest and start again. |
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21:16.33 | Orionshock | Zhinjio_: because inside a fubar plugin it's done for you IIRC |
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21:18.09 | Hjalte | Can anyone tell me why, when i press ctrl+alt and any of my numeral keys i get the desired key eg. { or [ or ] and so on + an @ >.< |
21:18.38 | Zhinjio | damn internet connection |
21:20.09 | Ozguli | what do you think of lvl 69 twinks? |
21:20.37 | Zhinjio | so, since I probably missed anything anyone said: why does Tablet tell me I need to add categories in a registration? I've seen it done without that in plenty of code examples |
21:20.47 | Zhinjio | I apologize for repeating myself |
21:20.54 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/75627 |
21:21.22 | Orionshock | attempt to concatenate local 'note' (a nil value) |
21:21.22 | Orionshock | ln 2 |
21:22.17 | Orionshock | ...nmd |
21:26.34 | art3mis | cyrez: okies, didnt save the skinend var right? |
21:26.53 | Orionshock | i wish lua had a built in nil check |
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21:27.27 | Cyrez | art3mis: I have no clue. All I know is what I did worked even though it made no sense at all, lol. |
21:27.37 | art3mis | heh groovy |
21:31.08 | Orionshock | hehe ... LH dosn't play with DubbleWide nicly |
21:32.57 | Balstor_ | spoiler : joystiq.com : was going to be in Guitar Hero 3 we didn't realize it was going to be the final track |
21:33.11 | Balstor_ | and they have a link to the song |
21:34.10 | RLD_osx | what is it with popups in prat that causes game to crass when in a group or raid |
21:34.23 | RLD_osx | err crash |
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21:35.10 | Orionshock | ok... this is fking creepy |
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21:37.46 | Orionshock | ? |
21:38.00 | aestil | why can you improve ghost wolf 4 levels before you get the skill? |
21:38.10 | Orionshock | Tekkub: ... maybe you have some insight into this... |
21:38.26 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/75627 |
21:38.45 | Orionshock | Fu~ Text: Interface\AddOns\TourGuide\resting.tga Texture: Note: " |
21:39.06 | Orionshock | is what it spits out for the debug... in effect the variables aren't passing properly |
21:39.10 | Zhinjio | are the parent of a tablet's onenter/onleave automagically hooked for you, or do I need to make explicit calls to open/close? |
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21:39.54 | Tekkub | I don't passa self |
21:40.05 | Tekkub | the args are passing correctly |
21:40.11 | Tekkub | you're handling them wrong |
21:40.27 | Orionshock | that's a good answer |
21:40.43 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r649 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (TourGuide.toc Alliance/33_35_Desolace.lua): TourGuide - Adding Ally Desolace guide, edited fro issue #98 |
21:42.11 | Orionshock | here's what i don't get, i add a simple D_C_F:AddMessage() to the stats frame before the func call to print out what's being passed; i think add nearly the same debug line to my code to find out what's being recieved... and they don't line up |
21:42.21 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Is TourGuide meant to be used with a specific guide? |
21:42.39 | cryogen | where does tourguide live btw? |
21:42.43 | Tekkub | TG provides guide |
21:43.09 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TourGuide |
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21:48.41 | Zhinjio | ah, its not in wau. thats why |
21:48.42 | Zhinjio | heh |
21:48.44 | Orionshock | Tekkub: diff for ya... http://ace.pastey.net/75630 |
21:48.54 | CIA-12 | 03art3mis * r52818 10cyCircled_Pooh/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
21:48.54 | CIA-12 | cyCircled_Pooh |
21:48.54 | CIA-12 | - Cleaned up art |
21:48.54 | CIA-12 | - Centered the Icons cleaner |
21:49.15 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cy-pooh.jpg |
21:49.17 | Orionshock | nil check on the note and .. do the function call properly |
21:49.52 | Tekkub | why check note, you can do that yourself |
21:50.10 | Tekkub | and there is no properly |
21:50.16 | Tekkub | it's a function call |
21:50.17 | Orionshock | good point |
21:50.21 | Tekkub | you don't need self |
21:50.26 | Orionshock | it wasn't passing arguments proerly |
21:50.31 | Tekkub | change you function def to a . not a : |
21:50.34 | Orionshock | or i wasn't getting em |
21:50.35 | Tekkub | it IS |
21:50.42 | Tekkub | you're handling them wrong :P |
21:50.52 | Tekkub | lern2self :P |
21:51.16 | Orionshock | not handling em wrong :P |
21:51.57 | Tekkub | yes, you are |
21:52.02 | Tekkub | the call ain't changing |
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21:52.09 | Tekkub | you don't need self, don't expect one |
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21:52.10 | Orionshock | "scope:Somefunction(a,b,c)" should create new local a, b, c with the values passed in that order |
21:52.21 | Tekkub | that is wrong |
21:52.25 | Nargiddley | no it creates self, a, b ,c with |
21:52.29 | CIA-12 | 03ulic * r52819 10GratuityLib/Gratuity-2.0/Gratuity-2.0.lua: |
21:52.29 | CIA-12 | GratuityLib: |
21:52.29 | CIA-12 | - Added new 2.3 method "SetGuildBankItem" |
21:52.32 | Tekkub | what narg said |
21:52.36 | Shadowed | orion |
21:52.37 | Hjalte | art3mis: 404 |
21:52.40 | Shadowed | i'm going to go out on a limb |
21:52.41 | Orionshock | >.> ! |
21:52.44 | Shadowed | and say that tekkub probably knows more then you |
21:52.55 | Nargiddley | and x:(a,b,c) calls with x, a, b, c in that order |
21:52.56 | CIA-12 | 03ulic * r52820 10LibGratuity-3.0/LibGratuity-3.0.lua: |
21:52.56 | CIA-12 | LibGratuity-3.0: |
21:52.56 | CIA-12 | - Added new 2.3 method "SetGuildBankItem" |
21:53.02 | Orionshock | i have delusions of grandure ... give me a few mins... |
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21:53.48 | Orionshock | wait wait wait |
21:54.22 | Orionshock | no ... what i said still holds, b/c self is implied it dosn't need to pass self. |
21:54.22 | Tekkub | all you have to do is change one char in your code :P |
21:54.26 | Orionshock | it allready has it |
21:54.30 | nevcairiel | the : is just an cosmetic alias |
21:54.34 | Tekkub | and I don't passa self |
21:54.35 | nevcairiel | thats all it is |
21:54.37 | Shadowed | just do what tek said damnit |
21:54.41 | Tekkub | because you don't need it |
21:54.46 | Orionshock | Method:Function =/= scope.function |
21:54.58 | Orionshock | yes same function different vars being passed |
21:55.14 | Orionshock | im not crazy i just don;t know how to say what im thinking |
21:55.28 | nevcairiel | thats called crazy by some definition, i bet |
21:55.40 | Orionshock | yes i know Tekkub i did that |
21:55.55 | Orionshock | and now it works |
21:56.02 | Tekkub | no crazy is attacking your BF and leaving scratch marks down his back, and then going to jail cause of a warrent on a traffic ticket |
21:56.14 | Tekkub | god he should have broken up with her, he's an idiot |
21:56.16 | dylanm | That's a crazy situation Tekkub |
21:56.19 | Shadowed | that sounds like something you'd do |
21:56.32 | Tekkub | nah, I keep my claws for self defense |
21:56.33 | nevcairiel | yeah, sounds like furry action |
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21:56.43 | Tekkub | and "normal" back scratching (for itches) |
21:56.55 | Tekkub | ... usually creating itches :) |
21:57.00 | Shadowed | i didn't think they did warents for traffic tickets |
21:57.13 | Shadowed | unless you got enough of them to lose your license |
21:57.14 | Tekkub | Trey's got this spot at the bottom of the neck that's so fun to fuck with |
21:57.33 | Tekkub | they do warrents if you don't show up for court, no matter the offense |
21:57.48 | Shadowed | ah yes |
21:57.52 | Shadowed | if you had to go to court that'd do it |
21:58.04 | Tekkub | regardless, she's a fucking crazy |
21:58.12 | Tekkub | she needs to lern2cope |
21:58.33 | Tekkub | what's with people that can't deal with life anyway? |
21:58.42 | Shadowed | they call them emo |
21:59.36 | Tekkub | yea, but I mean, still, WTF |
21:59.51 | Tekkub | take your fucking meds |
21:59.59 | Tekkub | you're sane when you're on your meds |
22:00.14 | Tekkub | unless you take your meds and then drink nothing but cheap shit beer |
22:00.28 | Tekkub | which just makes the meds fuck you up more... |
22:00.42 | Tekkub | did I mention I've never seen her drink anything but Bud Light? |
22:02.04 | Orionshock | the icon won't work |
22:02.15 | Orionshock | i can get the text to change ... but the icon won't work... :(( |
22:02.32 | theoddone33 | so turns out there's a huge fire not too far away |
22:02.44 | theoddone33 | my first clue was when I noticed that the sky was orange |
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22:03.32 | Tekkub | bah, orange could be anything.... halloween festivities |
22:04.07 | NightHawkTheSan1 | or a sunset. |
22:04.12 | Hjalte | Can anyone take a look at this and tell me if this looks good for doing some quests and solo-grind as a shadow priest? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bqMhzhxZZEMxz0xRhtVo |
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22:04.35 | theoddone33 | well then I started smelling smoke too |
22:04.40 | theoddone33 | apparently malibu is burning down |
22:04.47 | NightHawkTheSan1 | thats awesome |
22:04.58 | Tekkub | just your neighbor BBQQing for halloween |
22:05.20 | kebinusan | !ap 2100 |
22:05.20 | ThraeBot | kebinusan: Arena points from a rating of 2100 is, 2v2: 892, 3v3: 1033, 5v5: 1174 |
22:05.24 | cryogen | Hjalte: id just drop meditation and mental agility and stick the points in shadow, tbh |
22:05.34 | NightHawkTheSan1 | tekkub's the kind of person who's neighbors house would burn down and he'd just turn up the AC when it "got a little warm in here" |
22:05.37 | aestil | Hjalte: you prolly want the extra range. |
22:05.49 | Shadowed | yea i was listening to that on the radio theoddone33 |
22:05.53 | Tekkub | don't have AC |
22:05.55 | NightHawkTheSan1 | whose*? hrm. |
22:05.56 | Shadowed | they keep interrupting the radio to tell you stuff is burning |
22:05.57 | Shadowed | bastards |
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22:06.14 | Shadowed | "The fire is burning, they're trying to put it out!", 30 minutes later same information |
22:06.17 | Hjalte | cryogen: I just thought that it might be good to be able to cast those vampiric * spells cheaper |
22:06.20 | Shadowed | 30 minutes later, same info |
22:06.27 | theoddone33 | reminds me of http://bash.org/?349567 |
22:06.39 | MoonWolf | purl, emulate moonwolf |
22:06.39 | purl | I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, Call me! |
22:06.56 | Tekkub | purl, eat shit and die |
22:06.57 | purl | ACTION eats shit and die and falls over dead |
22:06.59 | Tekkub | stupid bot |
22:07.04 | MoonWolf | ~whalenuke Tekkub |
22:07.04 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Tekkub with his mind powers |
22:07.31 | MoonWolf | ehe |
22:07.38 | MoonWolf | cheat |
22:07.50 | Xelopheris | grr @ accidentally doing Ctrl+f12 instead of shift+f12 |
22:08.08 | cryogen | Hjalte: maybe, but you are dropping some nice(r?) stuff in shadow |
22:08.14 | Shadowed | Tekkub: * purl dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Tekkub with his mind powers |
22:08.24 | Tekkub | sorry, purl's useless, unlike clad's lua bot |
22:08.50 | Shadowed | lua> 2 + 2 |
22:08.51 | cladbot | Shadowed: 4 |
22:09.03 | Thrae | Damn this controller card. I'm back to using my old 2-port SATA controller card, since the PNY one I bought refuses to stop auto-configuring a RAID setup. All I wanted it for was more SATA ports. |
22:09.03 | cladhaire | cladbot: stop spreading lies! |
22:09.08 | Xinhuan | ~2+2 |
22:09.08 | purl | [2+2] 5 |
22:09.12 | Shadowed | hmmm |
22:09.25 | Xinhuan | ~2 + 2 |
22:09.26 | purl | i guess 2 + 2 is 5 for sufficiently large values of 2 |
22:09.32 | Shadowed | lua> local foo = "cla"; local bar = "dhaire"; print(foo + bar) |
22:09.32 | cladbot | Shadowed: [string "local foo = "cla"; local bar = "dhaire"; pr..."]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'foo' (a string value) |
22:09.35 | Shadowed | er |
22:09.38 | Shadowed | lua> local foo = "cla"; local bar = "dhaire"; print(foo .. bar) |
22:09.38 | cladbot | Shadowed: cladhaire |
22:09.39 | Xinhuan | ~2.0 + 2.0 |
22:09.39 | purl | 4 |
22:09.46 | Tekkub | Thrae, that'll sern you to let your material possesions control your life |
22:09.47 | Shadowed | stupid java using + for joining strings |
22:09.51 | Tekkub | *lern |
22:10.10 | Xelopheris | 2.0 + 2.0 = 4.1, for sufficiently large values of 2.0 |
22:10.15 | theoddone33 | if you guys have never seen the sky during a california fire that's nearby |
22:10.17 | theoddone33 | it's awesome |
22:10.19 | theoddone33 | and freaky |
22:10.22 | Shadowed | pixs or it didn't happen |
22:10.31 | Tekkub | CO has fire seasons too |
22:10.34 | Tekkub | :P |
22:11.39 | theoddone33 | eh |
22:11.44 | theoddone33 | my camera phone has terrible color |
22:12.01 | theoddone33 | it's cool though, it's like 3pm and it looks like a sunset coming through the window |
22:12.09 | theoddone33 | and if you look outside there's no sky and everything is orange tinted |
22:12.14 | Xelopheris | Is there a way in BigWigs to add custom timers and RW's either through the addon or in an extra file (to prevent from it getting overwritten on update) |
22:12.31 | nymbia | Tekkub: where're you at in CO? |
22:12.49 | Tekkub | Golden |
22:12.55 | nymbia | ah cool |
22:12.59 | art3mis | Cyrez: that trick didnt seem to work |
22:12.59 | nymbia | i'm up in ft collins |
22:13.14 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 10 a = coroutine.create(function() coroutine.yield() end) coroutine.resume(a) end print("does this use up memory on your system indefinitely?") |
22:13.15 | cladbot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "for i = 1, 10 a = coroutine.create(function() coroutine.yield()..."]:1: 'do' expected near 'a' |
22:13.23 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 10 do a = coroutine.create(function() coroutine.yield() end) coroutine.resume(a) end print("does this use up memory on your system indefinitely?") |
22:13.23 | cladbot | Xinhuan: does this use up memory on your system indefinitely? |
22:13.39 | Xinhuan | what if i made 1000 of these |
22:13.44 | Xinhuan | or 100000 |
22:13.48 | vhaarr | Xelopheris: /bwbc ? |
22:14.23 | Cyrez | art3mis: Darn... It worked for me, tho. Time to harass TK, then. >< |
22:14.44 | Shadowed | shirik beat you to crashing clad |
22:14.53 | Shadowed | by like 5 years |
22:15.15 | Xinhuan | well would that crash cladbot? ;p |
22:15.22 | cladhaire | lua> gcinfo() |
22:15.23 | cladbot | cladhaire: 402, |
22:15.24 | cladhaire | no |
22:15.24 | Funkeh` | vhaarr means /bwcb to broadcast a custom bar, Xelopheris :P then everyone sees it and you don't have to edit the file manually (requires promoted) |
22:15.27 | cladhaire | it wouldnlt |
22:15.32 | cladhaire | lua> while true do end |
22:15.37 | Tekkub | Ft Collins? I sorry |
22:15.37 | cladbot | cladhaire: sandbox.lua:154: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
22:15.42 | Xelopheris | k k |
22:15.42 | Tekkub | and lookie, it snowed |
22:15.43 | cladhaire | it has both a memory and an execution timeout. |
22:15.49 | Tekkub | so glad I'm not in AR anymore |
22:15.53 | Xinhuan | aha |
22:16.03 | Shadowed | why would anyone want to live in AR |
22:16.29 | Tekkub | Trey's family's there |
22:17.06 | Shadowed | yea i have some family there |
22:17.49 | Orionshock | i feel sad for anyone that lives in a state that has AT&T |
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22:19.21 | art3mis | cyrez: i think its just a stupid name change i need to do to cycircled |
22:19.31 | art3mis | ill check with TK though |
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22:27.12 | Orionshock | >.> i figured it out - i was neither wrong nor crazy, just unfamiliar with what tek was doing... :P |
22:27.23 | Tekkub | :P |
22:27.49 | Godzmack | mhm, does anyone know a replacement for statusbars or at least the combo points bar? |
22:28.13 | Tekkub | I've got a replacement, roll a not-rogue |
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22:28.26 | balstor | maybe it's a druid. |
22:28.30 | balstor | poke poke |
22:28.35 | Tekkub | go bear then |
22:28.47 | Godzmack | ehehehehehhe |
22:28.53 | Godzmack | http://kabl.org/pic/Executioner.test.jpg |
22:28.56 | Godzmack | looks like this :p |
22:29.37 | Zhinjio | From a UI perspective what sort of object makes sense to use as a hover anchor |
22:29.42 | Zhinjio | something that isn't a button, preferablt. |
22:29.57 | Tekkub | think you have to be a button to get mouse |
22:29.58 | Zhinjio | Just some text, maybe. |
22:30.01 | Zhinjio | oh. |
22:30.03 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
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22:30.11 | Tekkub | you can attach a font string for text |
22:30.31 | Xelopheris | okay, I looked at that /bwcb thing.. and that's a one time bar, not auto-recurring. |
22:30.56 | Zhinjio | Hmm. That gives me an idea. |
22:30.58 | Xelopheris | I'm looking for putting extra /rws into my magtheridon file for a 15s warning to blastwave |
22:33.11 | CIA-12 | 03sutorix * r52821 10ClosetGnome_Fishing/ (ClosetGnome_Fishing.lua ClosetGnome_Fishing.toc): ClosetGnome_Fishing: Update for ClosetGnome 1.0 |
22:33.33 | Toadkiller | Tekkub: Hey tek, will there be a decision on an objectLink any time soon? |
22:33.58 | Tekkub | dunno, I've just been tossing ideas at it |
22:34.32 | Toadkiller | So who decides? |
22:35.00 | Tekkub | the person writing the lib? |
22:35.08 | Funkeh` | Xelopheris, Yeah its one time, you can macro it though |
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22:35.32 | Funkeh` | Xelopheris, Whats the recurring timer you are timing anyway? |
22:35.36 | Toadkiller | Ok so you are talking about it being dealt with in Ace3 then? |
22:35.54 | aestil | ~seen sirow |
22:35.55 | purl | sirow <n=Miranda_@p57A4E3C5.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 2h 4m 15s ago, saying: 'files.wowace.com/AvionDefaultMedia/'. |
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22:56.54 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52823 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Jan'alai: add berserk timer |
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23:20.00 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r52824 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
23:20.00 | CIA-12 | AceTab-3.0: |
23:20.00 | CIA-12 | - API CHANGE: Use nil prematch instead of the empty string to designate a fallback completion |
23:20.00 | CIA-12 | - Split off creation of match table on a frame to a separate function |
23:20.00 | CIA-12 | - Fallback and non-fallback completions are separated on registration, and |
23:20.00 | CIA-12 | processing fallback completions only happens after all non-fallback completions |
23:20.04 | CIA-12 | have been processed and no matches are found (previously, all completions were |
23:24.06 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r52825 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Prototype.lua): |
23:24.06 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
23:24.06 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
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23:59.13 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/zim-mini.jpg |