IRC log for #wowace on 20071019

00:00.22Balstoranyone able to extract sound files from wow these days, i need one...
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00:07.13CIA-1203scorpio0920 * r52519 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/nnTrainers.lua: Cartographer_nnTrainers:Update zhTW translation.(Thanks purple)
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00:08.03aestilbut, you only have to calculate a path once, right Xinhuan?
00:08.29Xinhuanyeah once, but every time you hit "optimize", it is really using about 50000 random number to generate the path
00:08.51Xinhuanso there's always a chance if you hit that "optimize" button enough times, you eventually get a better route
00:09.10Xinhuanbecause it IS that random ;p
00:09.28Xinhuanthe algorithm uses what we call "ant behavior" to generate the path
00:09.36Xinhuanand ants randomly choose how to travel
00:09.38Wobworkhehe random
00:09.43WobworkNINE NINE NINE NINE NINE
00:10.15Xinhuanbut based on the best "ant path" out of many many ants, we update the probability that of how an ant will choose the next route on the next interation
00:10.18Xinhuaniteration*
00:10.26Xinhuanbut its all still based on probability and random numbers
00:10.44Xinhuanthere's probably a few hundred thousand random() calls in that route generation algorithm
00:11.06Xinhuanwell not that many, but you get the idea
00:11.36Arrowmasteromg [The Horseman's Helm] hidden on use is fucking sweet, wtb cloth version
00:12.02Xinhuanthe algo is hence called "ant colony optimization" because it mimics how ants find the shortest path between their hive and their food source irl
00:12.47Xinhuanan ant has a probability to travel to any node from the current node, based on the inverse distance and the pheromone trails left by previous ants
00:12.55Xinhuana shorter path has a stronger pheromone trail
00:13.28Xinhuan---
00:13.54Xinhuanhint: you can try creating multiple paths with the same nodes, and see that they are quite different, but with more or less the same "total distance"
00:14.05Wobworkbasically a weighted path using random generation to get the 'best possible'
00:14.26Xinhuanso no 2 routes that are generated are really identical unless the shortest path is really obvious to the ants
00:14.42aestilwhats an easy image hosting site?
00:14.52Xinhuanwouldn't want all 1000 people in the server to follow the same path anyway
00:14.53Wobwork~image hosting
00:15.01Wobwork~imagehosting
00:15.02purlrumour has it, imagehosting is http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire
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00:15.56Xinhuanwe need to petition to make the halloween wands NOT soulbound imo
00:16.55NivFreaknah
00:17.03NivFreakjust infinate charges
00:17.03NivFreak:)
00:18.45Balstorsrroemaster what is the hiden on use been farming all day and hasn't dropped yet
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00:18.56Balstorarrowmaster what is the hiden on use been farming all day and hasn't dropped yet
00:19.02Trell_Balstor; a manical laugh
00:19.07BalstorOMG
00:20.10Xinhuanhow do you farm "all day"
00:20.23Xinhuanwhen your party of 5 can at most summon the boss 5 times
00:20.32Arrowmasterive killed him 10 times today
00:20.37Trell_waiting an hour and swapping members out
00:20.55Xinhuanwell if you join a different group, i suppose you can leech from others
00:21.00Trell_or being really slow at killing him each time so you never hit the 5 reset limit per hour
00:21.03Xinhuantheir pumpkin summons that is
00:21.21Xinhuanbut i would imagine they would be pretty pissed if they find that you can't summon yours
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00:22.19Arrowmasteri play on a server full of pvp asshats
00:22.28Arrowmasterhalf of them are just sitting outside
00:22.43Arrowmasterand the other half arent organizing groups to do 5 runs and trade off like that
00:23.01Arrowmasterpeople in my guild also have lots of alts
00:23.02Xinhuanget all your alts to summon one lol
00:23.08Pkekyo27.2 AP vs 0.82% crit?
00:23.08Pkekyo24.2 AP and 0.19% +hit vs 0.09% crit?
00:23.30Arrowmasterand you can get another candle from the attack that happens every 4 hours
00:23.39Arrowmasteri think you can only get 1 candle from that though
00:24.05Pkekyoattack?
00:24.20Arrowmasteryeah on brill/razorhill/someothereplace
00:24.40Arrowmaster+alliance places
00:24.51Xinhuanis the attack version hard to kill?
00:25.01Trell_isn't goldshire and duskwood two of the alliance places?
00:25.05Trell_maybe not duskwood
00:25.19Xinhuankhranos is one of htem
00:25.40HjalteWhere should one position themselves then for grabbing another candle if they are alliance?
00:25.49HjalteHow does the attacks happen?
00:26.04Arrowmastertalk to the npc
00:26.12aestilXinhuan: routes should have a fubar plugin
00:26.12Arrowmasterthey tell you how long until the next one
00:26.29Xinhuanaestil: what the heck for
00:26.41Trell_you can configure it through rock anyway
00:26.47Trell_its not the kind of thing you're sontantly configging
00:26.51Trell_or at least im not >_<
00:26.54Trell_*constantly
00:26.59aestilwell, hiding/showing routes
00:27.05aestiland changing routes
00:27.14Trell_im a mucky pup so just leave my routes up all the time
00:27.29aestili just thought a little dropdown tablet for hiding/showing for your routes.
00:27.35aestilEllipsis: why would you stab me?
00:27.41Ellipsisbecause I can
00:27.49aestili was in laguna beach last weekend.
00:27.52Xinhuani dont' want to write one ;p
00:27.55Xinhuansomeone else can
00:28.06Ellipsisowie
00:28.35Ellipsisneed food...then sleep....mmm, sleep
00:28.47aestilah.
00:28.50aestilok.
00:29.45Wobworkwtb more sleep
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00:48.38Ellipsishohos?
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00:49.54Stanzillasame here
00:55.05Stanzillackknight: what about me? :(
00:55.15ckknightno rubbing for you
00:55.44dodgayummy yummy yummy I got love in my tummy?
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00:56.08Stanzilla:D
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00:57.18Ellipsislol, my guild must be desperate tonight
00:57.24EllipsisI just got invited to their SSC raid
00:57.31Gnarfozthat was an intercontinental belly-rub
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01:00.17Mithrangreetings all..was wondering if anyone in here was involved in the development of Yata
01:03.13Ellipsishm
01:03.21Ellipsiswhich raids don't require any keying stuff other than gruul's
01:03.53MithranSSC and TK
01:04.10Mithrannow that they've removed the need for the attunement quests
01:04.25Ellipsiso.O
01:04.26Ellipsiswhat do you mean?
01:04.36Stanzillamagtheridon
01:04.47Stanzillaand what Mithran said
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01:09.11kebinusanIs there an addon or maccro that would allow you to type  /swap player1 player2 to switch their raid groups or similar
01:10.47Xinhuani believe it would be a protected function?
01:10.53Xinhuanno idea
01:14.59ulic!api SwapRaidSubgroup
01:14.59ThraeBotulic: <center>'''SwapRaidSubgroup''' ''Documentation by Jakobud''</center>Swaps two players in a raid. SwapRaidSubgroup(index1, index2);  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SwapRaidSubgroup
01:15.01uliclooks like it could be done.
01:16.30ToadkillerStanzilla: YEah i saw that post. dunno whats up with that, its working on my mage.
01:16.41Stanzillawierd :/
01:16.49Stanzillawhat about a preset trinket button?
01:17.25ToadkillerThe gear.trinket category needs a mining script.  Till then its pointless...
01:17.35Stanzillakk
01:17.59Toadkiller& will make people compalain ;-p
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01:21.03CIA-1203roartindon * r52520 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Modules/Activity.lua):
01:21.03CIA-12Assessment
01:21.03CIA-12- Activity module from Viviane/Silvermoon(EU). This also enables active time dps calculations.
01:21.07Ellipsisbleh, time for bed
01:21.10Ellipsisnight guys <3
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01:25.15Stanzillanight Ellipsis
01:29.28CIA-1203kemayo * r52521 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
01:29.28CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
01:29.28CIA-12-Core: Remove deformat -- it's only used in the modules now.
01:29.28CIA-12-PlayerNotify: Make actually load, like for reals. Add option to suppress default blizzard UIErrorsFrame quest output. Add toggle for displaying quest names.
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01:31.24ag`http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1435/1439184009_73387a0e30_o.gif
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01:33.37hyperChipmunkcan anyone confirm that killing servant's quarters bosses won't save you to the Karazhan instance?
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01:34.14CIA-1203roartindon * r52522 10Assessment/Assessment.toc: Assessment: Updated toc to include Viviane as an author
01:34.20Xinhuanunconfirmed.
01:34.28Xinhuanwho the heck kils them first anyway
01:34.57durcynit doesn't save you.
01:35.19RoartindonWho even kills them at all? :)
01:35.21RoartindonDo they drop anything useful?
01:35.27durcynnope.
01:35.28HjaltehyperChipmunk: why wouldnt it save you?
01:38.07hyperChipmunkthe minibosses dont
01:39.02JoshBorke,ky
01:39.05JoshBorkewtf
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01:50.26CIA-1203lilsparky * r52523 10LilSparkysWorkshop/ (. LilSparkysWorkshop.smultronProject lilsparkysworkshop.lua):
01:50.26CIA-12LilSparkysWorkshop
01:50.26CIA-12- added support for Skillet:ResortRecipes() when cycling value displays
01:52.21CIA-1203jayrox * r52524 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/Core.lua: FuBar_VampwatchFu: Applied Kindien of Shadow Council's patch for the anchor not sticking properly for the shadowfiend timer bar. Thanks
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01:52.56CIA-1203kemayo * r52525 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
01:52.56CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
01:52.56CIA-12-PlayerNotify and PartyNotify: Use more Blizzard-translated strings.
01:53.53Balstoranyone know  a program that will let me browse warcraft's data files?
01:55.07durcynMPQEditor
02:07.08XinhuanWinMPQ. MyWarcratStudio.
02:07.14Xinhuan+f
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02:11.56CIA-1203jayrox * r52526 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/Core.lua: FuBar_VampwatchFu: Applied Kindien of Shadow Council's patch for the anchor not sticking properly for the shadowfiend timer bar. Thanks
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02:18.04Balstortrying to find one sound file in so many unamed files :(
02:18.27Diaoholy fuck
02:18.31Diaoour first attempt on gruul ever
02:18.34Diao1% wipe :(
02:18.40rob`aw
02:18.52Diaoso close lol
02:20.29Balstornice though second attempt will be a dead gruul
02:24.31WobworkBalstor: grats and aw =)
02:24.37Wobworker
02:24.40WobworkDiao: =P
02:24.52WobworkThat was like our Lurker
02:24.58Wobworkwe got him to 1% =(
02:25.10WobworkThen died due to FISH REPOP
02:25.14Diaolol
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02:29.57nymbiaFisker-: your mother.
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02:40.24Keiasis there a slash command top force a Garbage collect?
02:40.28Keiasto*
02:42.12JoshBorkeyes: /script collectgarbage("step")
02:42.38JoshBorkeor maybe /script collectgarbage("collect")?
02:45.42Kemayo...are aceconsole passing groups still broken?
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02:53.14RaydenUnido we have any ideas on when 2.3 is?
02:53.16JoshBorkeprolly
02:53.22JoshBorkenext month prolly
02:54.25RaydenUnicool just in time for quarter break
02:54.34ulicwith a new 10-man raid I'm sure they will give it plenty of testing.  Also last I checked they hadn't enabled Guild Banks yet either.
02:54.55RaydenUnido features go live on the PTR as they are finished?
02:55.14ulicI don't know why the delay stuff.  Various reason probably
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02:56.51CIA-1203seerah * r52527 10SharedMedia/SharedMedia.toc:
02:56.51CIA-12SharedMedia: uncommented MyMedia in toc - lay users should have as little trouble as possible, while advanced users who care about FrameXML errors know to comment it out
02:56.52CIA-12/hug Funky
03:02.42Wobworkseerah: fail =P
03:02.46Wobworkit's ~hug funky
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03:06.44CIA-1203kemayo * r52528 10PartyToGo/ (Core.lua PartyToGo.toc embeds.xml lib/):
03:06.44CIA-12PartyToGo:
03:06.44CIA-12-Bring up to date with QuestsFu changes. Probably works -- haven't tested in a group.
03:07.18CIA-1203kemayo * r52529 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PartyNotify/PartyNotify.lua:
03:07.18CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
03:07.18CIA-12-PartyNotify: Respect the quest complete option.
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03:15.10kebinusanCapernian always likes to run to me :-(
03:15.28kebinusanI hates getting conflagrated
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03:19.40pakozlooking for help with a macro  /cast Intervene target=PlayerName
03:19.50pakozi want to intervene a specific target without targeting them
03:19.56pakozalways the same person
03:20.16pakozanyone know the proper format?
03:20.43Xinhuan/cast [target=Xinhuan] Intervene
03:20.51pakozThanks.
03:20.51Xinhuanonly works if Xinhuan is in your party/raid
03:20.54pakozkk
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03:26.27CIA-1203etten * r52530 10AlarBGHelper/AlarBGHelper.lua: AlarBGHelper - Fixed missing = on line 1097
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03:32.29CIA-1203kemayo * r52531 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PartyNotify/zhTW.lua:
03:32.29CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
03:32.29CIA-12-PartyNotify: Remove orphan translation from zhTW localization.
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04:24.44CIA-1203nogudnik * r52532 10Skillet/ (ThirdPartyHooks.lua UI/MainFrame.lua):
04:24.44CIA-12Skillet:
04:24.45CIA-12- Added Skillet:AddPreButtonShowCallback() and
04:24.45CIA-12<PROTECTED>
04:26.04Wobworkfocus works well for those things too
04:29.20hyperChipmunkso does your mom-
04:30.46CIA-1203nogudnik * r52533 10Skillet/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
04:30.46CIA-12Skillet:
04:30.46CIA-12- SKL-16 : Added option to set the scale of the trade skill window.
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04:36.44CIA-1203kemayo * r52534 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
04:36.44CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
04:36.44CIA-12-PlayerNotify: Respect quest completion setting.
04:36.44CIA-12-Announce: Blizzard locals, backported from PartyToGo.
04:37.21CIA-1203xinhuan * r52535 10/branches/WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Branching for changes.
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04:47.21aestilXinhuan: i notice that cartographer routes lines seem to over write the little purple circles on the minimap for where nodes should be.
04:47.47Xinhuannot much i can do about that one, ask grum about it
04:47.50aestilkk.
04:47.54aestilits win.
04:47.57aestili like it alot.
04:47.57Xinhuanhe did the minimap code
04:48.11aestili'm off to sleep now.
04:48.16XelopherisIt's a great concept, but it doesn't work for practicality, IMO
04:48.27XelopherisSeeing as how my best farming path is netherstorm and SMV
04:48.30Xelopheriscaves ftl
04:48.33aestilwhy not, it makes farming so much easeir to just follow a line.
04:48.46aestilyou must mean for mineral nodes.
04:48.49Xelopherisyes
04:48.52aestilnot the same problem with herbs.
04:49.20CIA-1203next96 * r52536 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-koKR.lua:
04:49.20CIA-12Skillet:
04:49.20CIA-12- Update locale koKR
04:49.23XelopherisAlso, WTB random dead animals in nagrand that you can skin. I hated having to wait on respawns for skinning ><
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04:51.13Xelopherislesigh, I hate trolling other guild's forums and finding my guildies apping. Then logging in and gkicking them and getting bitched out
04:54.25Mecdemortis there a way to format a line in a forum pust like on a wiki:  ; name : description
05:02.09Mecdemortor rather just a bbcode for indent?
05:04.16NightHawkTheSanetry [quote] or [code]
05:04.25NightHawkTheSanenot quite the same, but its a blockquote like effect
05:04.47Mecdemortok
05:05.43CIA-1203quagmire * r52537 10nQuestLog/modules/Comments/Comments.lua:
05:05.44CIA-12nQuestLog:
05:05.44CIA-12- Added clickable coordinates to comments in the Comments frame. (thanks Noja)
05:05.44CIA-12- Improved wrapping of comments (no more scroll bar overlap and text getting cut off when indented)
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05:11.07KemayoDoes it make me shallow if I read an addon's source to make sure it doesn't use semicolons before I can use it?
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05:11.47hyperChipmunkonly if you check redundant parentheses too
05:11.54Kemayo...I do.
05:12.26Xinhuanpoint of that is...?
05:12.30KemayoI'm not objecting to ones that clarify operator precedence in complex conditions, mind.
05:12.34NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: yes
05:12.59NightHawkTheSanei still don't get the hatred of semicolons.
05:13.04KemayoGood, good.  I just like to be sure.
05:13.04hyperChipmunkKemayo: if (x > 3) then
05:13.14KemayohyperChipmunk: It should die in a fire.
05:13.18hyperChipmunk>8D
05:13.59Wobworkmeh
05:14.01Wobworkscrew that
05:14.04Wobworkuse semicolons
05:14.08Wobworkor don't use semicolons
05:14.14Wobworkuse parenthesis or don't
05:14.16Xinhuanthe extra () there makes it slightly more readable
05:15.00Xinhuanwell, for editors that don't color
05:15.00Xinhuankeywords at least
05:15.00WobworkIt's all in whether you have to do RL work with semicolons or not that really matters
05:15.33Wobwork. o O ("And if you write in a language at work that doesn't use semicolons, well then get a -real- job ya hippy =P")
05:15.41NightHawkTheSaneI use semicolons as weapons against parentheses. They make good stabby things.
05:15.45hyperChipmunkhaha
05:15.53NightHawkTheSaneWobwork: i use vb.net at work. it makes me cry at night. :(
05:15.58Wobworkaieee
05:16.09WobworkI'm suprised you're still Sane
05:16.17NightHawkTheSaneit takes an effort.
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05:20.31CIA-12-PartyNotify & PlayerNotify: Add zhTW translations provided by NightOwl.
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05:45.39theoddone33there's not a way to see your instance lockout timer is there?
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05:46.06Xinhuanopen your social pane, go to the raid tab
05:46.14hyperChipmunknot the same
05:46.28theoddone33yeah not raids
05:46.31hyperChipmunkhe means if you reset instances over and over in a short period of time, i think
05:46.34Xinhuanoh that one
05:46.36Xinhuanfor 5-mans
05:46.36theoddone33right
05:46.39Xinhuani don't think youc an
05:46.54theoddone33I did enough on my rogue to lock me out
05:47.00theoddone33then relogged to my paladin and it locked me out on that
05:47.06theoddone33which is... very weird
05:47.12hyperChipmunkhehe
05:47.27theoddone33something to do with the party leader or osmething
05:47.29theoddone33or it's just bugged
05:47.30hyperChipmunki run into it when chest-ninjaing from Shadow Lab
05:47.40hyperChipmunkor it's account-based
05:48.12Arrowmasterso ive killed headless horseman 15 times on the first day
05:48.15theoddone33yeah account based doesn't make much sense
05:48.20hyperChipmunkyeah it does
05:48.29hyperChipmunkwhen you think of it from a server resources pov
05:48.44hyperChipmunkspawning instances isn't cheap
05:48.48Arrowmasterthe instance lockout is account based
05:48.52Arrowmaster100% sure
05:48.58theoddone33ok that explains it then
05:49.01Arrowmastersince atleast 5 people in my build ran into it today
05:49.18Arrowmaster*guild
05:49.37theoddone33the headless horseman heal ring is better than violet signet at my rep level :(
05:49.38hyperChipmunkotherwise you could cycle through characters spawning tons of instances and generally waste a ton of sever cpu/ram
05:50.12hyperChipmunkgood thing you can wear both
05:50.59Arrowmasterfucking witching band
05:51.18Arrowmasterover 50% drop rate today
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05:52.11Xinhuanthey made this a bit too casual friendly
05:52.20Xinhuaneven heroics dont' drop epics like water
05:52.22Arrowmastertrying to remember the numbers from today
05:52.30Cavesty^gerberSo ive copied my wow Interface/Addons folder over to my PTR folder (WowTest) renamed the server and the character names, but for some reason my settings wont copy over
05:52.33Xinhuanthey are the same epics as existing epics
05:52.45XinhuanCavesty^gerber: you probably forgot to rename your folders
05:52.47Arrowmasterafter 10 kills i had seen 6 healing rings, 3 melee rings, and 1 caster ring
05:52.48Cavesty^gerberlike when i log in my alts settings are loaded for some reason, and my mains settings wont show up
05:52.49theoddone33hyperChipmunk: I have two blue rings that are better than both
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05:52.54Xinhuanto the correct server name and char name
05:52.58theoddone33but I wear violet signet for pvp because of the stam
05:53.07Cavesty^gerberXinhuan I did rename the server folder and the character folder
05:53.13Fintheoddone33: which headless horseman heal ring?
05:53.21theoddone33witching band
05:53.21Xinhuanthen possibly your profiles store the character name
05:53.23Arrowmasterwitching band
05:53.29Xinhuanin the files itself
05:53.41Cavesty^gerberYea im thinking thats it =/
05:53.43Cavesty^gerberany way to change it?
05:53.49Xinhuannot without manual edits
05:54.37Cavesty^gerberIs there any like patch find/replace programs? where i could just open all the lua files and find/replace old character name with my new PTR name?
05:55.43Arrowmasterafter 15 kills i had seen 8 healing rings, 3 melee rings, 4 caster rings, and 1 sinister squashling
05:56.41Finfind . -name '*.lua' | xargs perl -pi -e 's/Oldname/Newname/'
05:57.14Xinhuanmay or may not work Cavesty^gerber, depending on your character name
05:57.28Xinhuanand how unique it is
05:58.12Finperl -pi -e 's/Oldname/Newname/' $(grep -rl Oldname *)
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06:00.41Cavesty^gerberI just went in manually and did them all
06:00.47Finctrl+f -> Containing text: Oldname -> ctrl+a -> SciTE
06:00.50Cavesty^gerberreplaced charname with new one and server name with ptr
06:00.54Cavesty^gerberdidnt have many lua files
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06:05.59Grum[06:47:22] <aestil> Xinhuan: i notice that cartographer routes lines seem to over write the little purple circles on the minimap for where nodes should be. <-- cant be done anything about unless we massively change how Cartographer_Notes work
06:06.04Grum+s
06:06.23Xinhuanthat, or shorten the line slightly
06:06.28Xinhuanso it doesn't cover the node
06:06.43Grumnot going to happen :)
06:07.07Grumbecause i dont know if for that node you have chosen to display it
06:07.13Grumand i loose all that meta information in a route
06:07.53Grumso either we add tons of duplicate data to compensate for a couple of pixels .. or we just ignore it ..
06:07.58Grumo/ for the second option
06:08.15Xinhuanwhats that got to do with
06:08.17Xinhuanwhat i suggested
06:08.52Xinhuani'm saying instead of drawing a line from (x,y) to (x2, y2), draw it so it starts slightly away from (x,y)
06:09.06Xinhuan(yes kind of lame solution)
06:09.08Grumthe purple circles are drawn based on selections - if you compensate for that you ahve to take that in account a well
06:09.11Grum*as
06:09.15Grumi dont do lame ;)
06:09.19Grumjust perfect solutions :)
06:09.25Xinhuanor tell people to use thinner lines
06:09.32Grumor use the alpha values
06:09.39Grumor fix Cartographer_Nodes so we can draw on a layer below it
06:09.45Grum*Notes
06:09.57Xinhuanactually minimap lines should have a setting for different thickness
06:10.05Xinhuani don't like them to be the same thickness
06:10.21Grumbah that means 1 extra setting for every line
06:10.27Grumoh well ... just meta, i'll add that
06:10.35Xinhuanwell do you find it annoying?
06:10.42Xinhuanin your opinion that is
06:10.52Xinhuanthat the lines on the minimap is a bit thicker than you really want
06:11.20Xinhuan(or just alter the code to draw with a thickness of w/2)
06:11.36Grumi'll add another option
06:11.44Grumand when i'm doing that also for the battlemap
06:12.05Xinhuanatm, i just use w/2 for the battlemap thickness
06:12.41Grumi know
06:12.45Grumbut i like it the way it is on the minimap
06:12.49Grumso i have to add a slider for it ^^
06:13.03Grumand when you can set one it seems retarded to make that the base for another value =D
06:13.29Xinhuani used w/2 only because the scaling of the map makes using w too think
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06:13.51Xinhuanthick
06:15.30Grumyeah
06:15.40ProvusDoes anyone here have a moment? I could use some help with FlexBar2's attribute command. I'm trying to make it so I can right click self-cast with it. I know it can be done, but I can't really find any explanation on how to do it. I tried figuring it out myself but I haven't had any luck.
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06:15.59Grumbut why not just give the users an option, if we give it for the minimapline then it seems silly to link the battlemap to one of the 2 values
06:16.28GrumProvus: best is waiting till cncfanatic wakes up :)
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06:16.49ProvusWell
06:17.09ProvusI downloaded this tiny little addon called rSelfCastBB and it has this inside of it = SetAttribute("unit2", "player");
06:17.31ProvusI tried putting it in using the set attribute command, doing unit2 for attribute and player for value, and vice versa, but neither worked.
06:17.33Xinhuanappears CIA doesn't report branches stuff in the usual format
06:17.46Xinhuanif i didn't have a subfolder with my name in /branches/wowequip
06:17.58GrumXinhuan: kaelten was toying with it yesterday
06:18.36Xinhuanwell i have it in /branches/wowequip/ rather than /branches/wowequip/xinhuan/
06:18.43Xinhuanseems to make a difference
06:19.09Grumseems to require 1 more dir inbetween
06:19.30Xinhuanwell i didn't see the neccesity of it
06:19.54GrumProvus: i am not sure how the attribute modifiers are handled, and if ones from other addons are a 1-on-1 match with the ones you can set on fb3 buttons
06:20.15GrumXinhuan: he was going to fix it so that every addon has its own repo
06:20.30Xinhuanthat would be major overhaul
06:21.10Xinhuanand you know what will happen? half the ppl will recheckout the entire trunk instead of relocating every folder
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06:23.46Speeddymonanyone know the itemid of primal fire off the top of their heads
06:23.50vhaarrulic: replied in the cg thread
06:24.19Xinhuan~google Primal Fire
06:24.39Speeddymonor know how I can get it without having to have it in my bags?
06:25.00Xinhuan21884
06:25.19Xinhuanaccording to my lootlink
06:25.19Speeddymonkk thx
06:26.28NightHawkTheSaneis there any decent cloak enchant for a healer?
06:26.41vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: -threat
06:26.42Xinhuanspell penetration
06:26.47vhaarrXinhuan: that's useless
06:26.58Xinhuanno it isn't. used for dispelling enemies in arena
06:27.01Xinhuanor purge
06:27.09vhaarrright, if you pvp, it's not useless
06:27.13Xinhuani'm assuming a pvp context
06:27.16vhaarrindeed
06:27.17NightHawkTheSaneassume pve. :P
06:27.19NightHawkTheSanei don't pvp.
06:27.23vhaarr-threat, then
06:27.26vhaarror +res
06:27.31NightHawkTheSanethanks
06:27.33Grumassume pve .. who doesnt do pve ;D
06:27.40Xinhuanjust get +15 sr or something
06:27.49Xinhuanthat bit less chance to get silenced
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06:28.29CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
06:28.29CIA-12- Beast taming quest items.
06:28.44Xinhuantell them to stop putting in gay bosses with aoe silence
06:28.55Xinhuanor debuffs
06:29.41vhaarrthey should just replace all bosses with big paper mache dolls
06:29.50vhaarrthat we can smack with sticks
06:29.52Grumi hate that aoe-silence
06:30.02Grumrather have the boss enrage than having aoe-silence O.o
06:31.29neeneeDepends on the range and if mana-users are close I think
06:31.42vhaarrGrum: a few things about the routes thingy, #1, if I change zone in the "add" dropdown, it doesn't update the available set of routes
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06:31.57vhaarrGrum: #2, if I disable the mining module, Routes no longer shows mining nodes in the dropdown - which is generally fine, but it still shows routes connected to mining nodes.
06:31.58neeneeThough that's what priest AOE-Dispell is for I think
06:32.16Grumvhaarr: how is that bad? (the last one)
06:32.25Grumthe first one - i have to check - it is working fine here
06:32.41vhaarrGrum: I think it should hide all mining nodes and re-show them again when the mining module is loaded again
06:33.18Grumvhaarr: why?
06:33.22vhaarrXinhuan: I was thinking, would it make sense to attach a version number to a route, and then if the path optimizer gets any further optimizations in the future, _Routes can notify the user that this and that route could benefit from a reoptimzation
06:33.23Grumyou can still mine them eventhough you dont want to see the nodes
06:33.39vhaarrjawohl
06:33.48Grumvhaarr: having a new algo doesnt mean the route will or can improve
06:33.58vhaarrGrum: could you fucking read it
06:33.59Grumany algo will end up with having the perfect route after enough optimizations
06:34.00vhaarrXinhuan: I was thinking, would it make sense to attach a version number to a route, and then if the path optimizer gets any further optimizations in the future, _Routes can notify the user that this and that route could benefit from a reoptimzation
06:34.20vhaarrit says COULD
06:34.33Xinhuanvhaarr, i think grum's plan is to make routes tied to a list of profession, say herb or mine or both. then show/hide the route based on _Professions
06:34.39Xinhuanor something to do with profile specific stuff
06:34.49Grumi'm not going to touch profiles myself
06:34.53Grumi'll hook into something existing
06:34.55vhaarrI don't see how that's different from what I said
06:35.29ProvusWhat time does cncfanatic usually come around?
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06:35.35Grumdunno Provus
06:36.02Grumvhaarr: i was just explaining why my next line would be: "totally not needed i think"
06:36.14vhaarrGrum: you're a fucktard, it would be a nice thing
06:36.18vhaarrimplement!
06:36.42Grumlol
06:37.12Grumi'm not going to store silly meta-info
06:37.24Grumbut .. yes ... you are right .. it *might* be a nice feature
06:37.47Grumbut i assume xin has no 'major' upgrades panned
06:37.49Grum*planned
06:37.53Pkekworkfuckake, /whois isn't working...can someone /whois pkekyo and paste me the IP?
06:37.55Xinhuannope, i don't
06:38.06Xinhuani'm currently focusing on getting wowequip 0.9 out
06:38.17Xinhuancurrently on 0.8
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06:38.46Xinhuanits quite a bit of work to add talent/race support into the calculations and upgrade all existing profiles in the SV to support it
06:39.02Xinhuanand still ensure backwards compatibility due to send/receive profiles support in 0.8
06:39.34Grumyeah i think it might be nice to have a versionnumber on the route if we change anything about it
06:39.44Grumeventhough we'll likely never ever use it
06:40.07Xinhuani have a version number tagged to all my addons' savedvar
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06:40.53Xinhuantagging a version number to every route is a little extreme though
06:41.04vhaarrGrum: and let me just remind you of the map note menu, "Ignore node in routes"
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06:41.26Grumvhaarr: euuh?
06:42.29Pkekworkcan someone do /whois Pkekyo and paste me the IP?
06:42.31Xinhuanthere's a small issue with that actually vhaarr, the code for _Mining and _Herbalism deletes notes that are close by before adding a new updated node
06:42.35Grumvhaarr: i think adding 2 flags for: 'Listen to _Profiles' and 'Show route if any part is allowed to be seen' is enough
06:42.45Grumbsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no
06:43.05Xinhuani.e lets say there is a node at (x,y), and you mine it at (x+0.1, y-0.1)
06:43.14vhaarrGrum: and I think you lack basic understanding of the english language
06:43.26Grumvhaarr: seriously, do you want to go there?
06:43.28Xinhuanwhat _Mining does is that it deletes all notes within some small radius of (x+0.1, y-0.1), then adds a new one back at (x,y)
06:43.37Grumbecause you will be the first person *EVER* to end up on my ignore list
06:43.47vhaarrreally?
06:43.48Xinhuanso having a node ignore list is defeated by what _Mining does
06:44.29Xinhuansorry, what i said was incorrect
06:44.36Xinhuanwhat _Mining does is that it deletes all notes within some small radius of (x+0.1, y-0.1), then adds a new one back at (x+0.1,y-0.1)
06:44.56Xinhuanso in effect it deletes the old node(s), then adds a new one
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06:45.01Grumseriously, in what way would "Ignore node in routes" be applied?
06:45.02Grumwhat would it be fore?
06:45.02Grum*for
06:45.10Xinhuangrum: many cases
06:45.12vhaarrit would help users ignore nodes that are too far away from the main traveling route to add any value to the farming time
06:45.19Xinhuansuch as ignoring certain nodes in a deep cave
06:45.26Xinhuanor on an off-shoot island
06:45.31vhaarrright
06:45.49Grummmm
06:46.05Xinhuanif i'm mining in nagrand, i'm definitely not about to go into an ogre cave 100 yards deep to mine some ore
06:46.06Grumthat might actually be a nice feature, but still what Xinhuan says applies
06:46.11vhaarrGrum: my ignore list is quite long, and I am an asshole, ignore me if you want, I don't see how I would care
06:46.31Grumvhaarr: sigh
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06:46.59Xinhuanwhile my code detects the node additions and deletions, i can't really tell if a node is supposed to be ignored and the new node is supposed to be ignored too
06:47.12Grumwell it could actually
06:47.34Xinhuannode deletions and additions don't occur in pairs
06:47.35Grumwe could make a list 'ignored for route creation'
06:48.00Grumtrue
06:48.07Xinhuanif i put a node at (x,y) inside a cave for ignoring, then later go mine it at (x+0.1, y-0.1)
06:48.13Grumare the delete events always earlier than creates?
06:48.23Xinhuanit deletes (x,y) and possibly others near it as well, then adds (x+0.1, y-0.1)
06:48.25Grumand actually
06:48.29vhaarrGrum: yes they are
06:48.29ckknight:-P
06:48.32Grumi have another way to solve this
06:48.44Grumbeing able to delete waypoints manually
06:49.49Grumbut that still meh .. wouldn't help with those cave-nodes when you generate a new route o.O
06:50.00Xinhuanyou can see that i wrote the code to catch the NoteSet and NoteDelete events
06:50.05Xinhuanbut still, hmm
06:50.45Xinhuanhow do you inject a option into the right click menu anyway?
06:50.47Xinhuanof a herb
06:51.04Grumits done in some addons
06:51.05Xinhuandoes your code even allow it vhaarr?
06:51.07vhaarrisn't it simple? when a node is deleted, you store the "ignored" and "type" properties, and then if another node is created less than a second after with the same type, you apply the stored ignore flag
06:51.10Grumi'll figure that out
06:51.32Grumsame type doesnt apply
06:51.39vhaarricon, then
06:51.41Grumbecause of _Notes magic with 'shared notes'
06:51.45Xinhuanwell that becomes an issue when someone uses Noteshare to spam shared notes
06:51.45Grumditto
06:52.06vhaarrbut surely _Notes can differentiate between user-created and netword-recieved notes?
06:52.27Xinhuani don't think so, because i thought noteshare calls _mining and _herb to create those notes
06:52.35vhaarraha
06:52.45Grumthat will cause a massive lagburst hehe
06:53.03Grumwe gotto test that once :)
06:54.24fitz__snicker, came in 9th on our last HKM kill for DPS
06:54.31fitz__not bad for someone who's been boomkin for a week!
06:54.54Corganfail!
06:55.18Grumits fun to play dps .. is so bloody easy
06:55.34CorganI <3 my 4k starfire crits
06:55.36ProvusIs there not a Noteserv on this network?
06:56.06Gngsk~purl
06:56.07purlwell, purl is purl
06:56.10vhaarrpurl can leave messages for people, if that's what you need
06:56.16ProvusThat's what I need
06:56.39neeneeAgreed, as a healer you have to watch a lot of things, but as DPS you just have to make sure you're not doing more threat than a tank :|
06:56.48Grumwhich is a piss
06:56.49Grumseriously
06:57.00Grumi was on my undergeared hunter @ Leo ... 4th on dmg done O.o
06:57.07Grumalways a fraction below the MT on threat
06:57.18Grumand then i cried
06:57.27vhaarrjust means your tank sucks
06:57.38ProvusUh, wow, that's a lot of commands - can someone tell me the command?
06:57.52vhaarr~botmail
06:58.09Grumvhaarr: not really, mostly that the other dps sucks
06:58.17Grumeventhough they like play their class for mains O.o
06:58.33vhaarrI'm raiding karazhan with my alt warrior with some nub guild, and their offtank is just horrible
06:58.45Grumand have t5 equiv gear .. where i have ~70% t4
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06:58.49vhaarrprot spec, better gear than me, but I still manage to get aggro from mobs he is holding without taunt
06:58.54vhaarrI think he only does sunder
06:58.59ProvusIs the guy's name cncfanatic or cncfanatics
06:58.59vhaarrno slams or revenge
06:59.03Grumand i can still outdmg em O.o
06:59.14Grum[22:43:29] * cncfanatics has quit (Client Quit)
06:59.16Xinhuanis your hunter bm spec?
06:59.20Grumyeah
06:59.25Grum1 button hunter
06:59.26Xinhuanand what shot rotation do you use
06:59.28Grumand 2 for pet O.o
06:59.37Grumonly steady/autoshot
06:59.46vhaarrnot arcane?
06:59.50Grumnope
06:59.53Xinhuanerr and that beats mains on dps?
06:59.54Grumah well
06:59.59Grumoccasionally
07:00.02Grumyes O.o
07:00.13Grumi seriously whined
07:00.18vhaarryou should use mshot/arcane shot in the rotation as well, I think
07:00.21Xinhuanif you have a real shot rotation, your dps would prob be 20% higher
07:00.43Grummy gf, who was MT has a lock with ~1100 spelldmg easily tops the dmgmeter
07:00.47Grumand just pressing 2 buttons O.o
07:00.57Grumi seriously dont get why other people are doing such sucky dps
07:01.07GrumXinhuan: what would that rotations look like?
07:01.08ZealotOnAStickvhaarr: can we get timer bars for Illidan Phase 3/4 transitions?
07:01.25vhaarrZealotOnAStick: sure if you have timers
07:01.27Grumvhaarr: mshot is mostly if you are MM
07:02.06Grumbut i can just go fullout without any manaproblems for ~4 minutes orso
07:02.17Grumchuck down a pot .. or use viper and its like 7-8
07:02.20Grumbooooriiing :)
07:02.47Grumi also wasn't in the group with all the buffs because i'm an alt .. and still did more dps ... *cry*
07:03.00ProvusDoes the bot send you a message back when you successfully send a message?
07:03.04Xinhuani don't exactly know
07:03.17Xinhuanbut i have hunters in my guild that post complicated shot rotation diagrams
07:03.34ZealotOnAStickvhaarr: 60 seconds of Phase 3, transformation time (about 10 seconds), 30 seconds of Phase 4, tranformation time (about 10 seconds again) - rinse, repeat.
07:03.58Xinhuansuch as
07:03.59Xinhuanhttp://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z213/alexchesser/BetterShot.jpg
07:04.10ZealotOnAStickI'll get a transcript of the whole thing Sunday.  Unfortunately we only got one good 3/4 cycle tonight, and it wasn't until that one that my GL pointed out that those would be nice.
07:04.25Xinhuangranted that one is just autoshot and steadyshot
07:04.28GrumXinhuan: is that a BM hunter?
07:04.29Xinhuanno arcane or multi in it
07:04.35Xinhuanyes BM hunter
07:04.54Grumthat cant be BM tbh
07:05.02Grummy autoshot is 2.1 with prince weapon
07:05.04Xinhuanhmm
07:05.07Xinhuanlets try this link
07:05.07Xinhuanhttp://elitistjerks.com/387101-post1.html
07:05.12Grumit was 2.44 with MM though
07:05.18Xinhuango read that
07:05.30Grumah, that explains, autoshots are from MM :)
07:05.37ramozwhat?
07:05.42ramozautoshots is MM? :P
07:06.23Xinhuanthere is a lot of crazy analysis with shot rotations
07:06.52Grumhttp://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z213/alexchesser/BMFastRotation.jpg <-- that is the BM rotation
07:07.11Grumramoz: no the cooldown is taken from a MM hunter
07:07.23Grumand taht is the rotation i do Xin
07:07.31Grumand the only really viable one else you get gaps in your dps
07:07.46Grumand tbh arcaneshot hits for the amount a steady does -~150 orso
07:07.54Grumbut not having that autoshot coming fast totally negates that
07:08.48neeneeWhat is Steady Shot?
07:09.02Grum1.5s casttime shot
07:09.26Grumso you can do that one between every autoshot
07:09.26neeneeHm. Something like Aimed shot but for everyone regardless of Talents?
07:09.35Grumnah it does about the same dmg as autoshot
07:09.45Grumbut you effectively are able to shoot twice every autoshot
07:10.06neeneeah.
07:10.16GrumA steady shot that causes base weapon damage plus [RAP * 0.2 + 150].  Causes an additional 175 against Dazed targets.
07:10.28neeneeoki
07:10.32Grumbut bosses cant be dazed so thats nothing extra
07:11.01Grumbut seriously, BM hunter is retardedly easy
07:11.05ramozhow much does a avg. steady shot do?
07:11.21Grumwith my gear? ~570 orso
07:11.38ramozhm
07:11.46ramozand a autoshot?
07:11.51Grumso each 2.1s i do ~1150 dmg
07:11.58Grumon average orso
07:12.00CIA-1203snago * r52545 10FuBar_NinjutFu/ (8 files):
07:12.00CIA-12FuBar_NinjutFu:
07:12.00CIA-12- Warning sound configurable with SharedMedia
07:12.00CIA-12- Use SinkLib for compatibility with more than SCT.
07:12.00CIA-12- Warning will ignore Windfury and other short temporary enchants.
07:12.02Grumabout the same
07:12.13Grumadd ~25% crit (on my char now)
07:12.46Grumand you have: 1437.5 per 2.1s
07:12.52Grumthat is ~700dps
07:12.59Grumadd ~200 from my pet
07:13.02ramozweak!
07:13.09Grumand your t4 geared hunter does 900dps
07:13.32Grumthat is not flasked and just 'default raidbuffs'
07:13.52Grumbut not completely true on bosses as your pet does a bit less dmg and well.. you cant constantly dps :D
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07:13.56neeneeHm. Too much XP from quests in Outland means my pet doesn't level well with me.
07:14.07Grumtell me about it, leveling a lvl20 unique cat
07:14.12Grumhes stuck @ lvl64 now
07:14.19Grumneeding ~180kxp per level O.o
07:14.38Grumlvl59->60 ~52k .. 60->61 ~150k
07:15.00Grumone instance like SL gives about ~20-25% xp
07:15.05Grumso i'm a long way off :)
07:15.19ramozdoes the pet get xp if it kills stuff alone?
07:15.23Grumyup
07:15.30Grumbut only stuff *you* would get xp from
07:15.37Grumso i have to kill lvl63+ stuff
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07:15.52Grumwhich is doable now but wasnt when it was like lvl55
07:16.09Grumbut at that time i was BM so dps from my pet was minimal anyhow
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07:16.13Grumerm MM
07:16.21sbingnerhas anybody else noticed that threat values often aren't right when you switch targets (threat)
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07:16.56ramozoh
07:16.56ramozbtw
07:17.11ramozhas anyone noticed that violations merge pet with owner is broken?
07:18.06neeneeI'm just trying to get my pet to 60 now to train a new Growl and such, he can hardly keep aggro from me at the moment.
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07:18.43CIA-12!VisualThemes_RockConfig:
07:18.43CIA-12-Initial Commit
07:18.43CIA-12-Allows RockConfig to be themed with VisualThemes, consider this untested!
07:20.16neeneeHm. Isn't VisualThemes something which animates the frames rather than changes the theme?
07:20.34Diaoyes
07:20.41neeneeThen I think the name is not very good.
07:20.49Xinhuanmeh, instead of all this "!modname" stuff, we should ask slouken to give us a TOC entry that gives us ## LoadBefore: addon1, addon2
07:20.50Xinhuanetc
07:20.55neeneeVisualEffects would be better
07:21.37Grumneenee: you are BM?
07:21.55neeneeYes
07:22.04neeneeI just became level 60
07:22.06neenee:)
07:22.13neeneeMy pet boar, Muffin, is catching up now
07:22.14Grumaah k
07:22.22Grumtrain a lvl60 boar? :)
07:22.31Grumboars ftw on aggro btw
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07:22.39Grumcharge is the best ever aggro-builder for a pet
07:22.47neeneeNah
07:22.50Grumnah?
07:22.54neeneeI have my boar from Westfall
07:22.54Grumits 5-6k insta aggro
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07:23.32neeneeAnd I have the best charge and gore learnt with my Hunter, but I'll have to wait for my pet to be 60 to train then to him
07:23.35Grumi got a cat you cant see when it prowls ^^
07:23.47neeneeYou can see it, it's that Ghostsaber, right?
07:23.54Grumnope
07:23.59neeneeWhat then?
07:24.04Grummy pet is prowled even when its not prowled :)
07:24.11Grumhehe
07:24.23Grumaubergine-area somewhere
07:24.27Silviu-ckknight http://ace.pastey.net/75520 on PTR
07:24.41Fisker-ok
07:24.45Fisker-why do blizzard fail?
07:25.02neeneeWhich pet did you train then?
07:25.03Grumwhy not ? :D
07:25.03Fisker-brewfest event is started here
07:25.04Fisker-:D
07:25.13Gngskheh
07:25.20Grumneenee: i have a cat and a boar and another cat O.o
07:25.28Grumand i dunno what its called
07:26.02neeneeWhere did you train it?
07:26.17neeneeIt must be a specific cat to have it keep it's innate ability/feature
07:26.45neeneeI know the Ghost Saber from Ashenvale is like that
07:26.49Grumnono
07:26.50neeneeBut had not heard of others yet
07:26.53Grumit doesnt know the spell prowl
07:26.58Grumit is always transparent
07:27.02Grumeven if it is not prowling
07:27.08neeneeYes, that's like the Ghost Saber from Ashenvale
07:27.17Grumyes but they turn normal when you train em
07:27.20Grumthis one doesnt
07:27.21neeneeNo they don't
07:27.24Grumthey do
07:27.26neeneeThat one doesn't.
07:27.27neeneeNope
07:27.37neeneeUnless they fixed it very very recently
07:27.54NightHawkTheSaneneenee: not ashenvale, Darkshore
07:28.02neeneeAh, well
07:28.05neeneeDarkshore then :)
07:28.08neeneeThe area near Ashenvale :)
07:28.17NightHawkTheSane... ashenvale is pretty far from Darkshore. :P
07:28.21NightHawkTheSaneunless you mean Auberdine? :P
07:28.28Grumaah k
07:28.31Grumthat might be the one
07:28.32neeneeNope
07:28.38neeneeAshenvale, south of Darkshore
07:28.43Grumnope its the north
07:28.46Grumonly the north
07:28.51NightHawkTheSaneAnd yeah, you're both probably talking about the same thing.
07:28.56neeneeYup
07:29.01neeneehttp://petopia.brashendeavors.net/images/bigpix/gallery/ghostsaber_leafet.jpg
07:29.05NightHawkTheSanecause, afaik, there's only one cat with that quality
07:29.06neeneehttp://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/resources/gallery_ghostsaber.shtml
07:29.59Iceroththere's no list of all available pets and their abilities?
07:30.08GrumIceroth: google for goodintentions
07:30.24neeneehttp://petopia.brashendeavors.net/ <-- that has it too
07:30.29neeneeAnd links to Goodintentions I think
07:30.30Grumneenee: it's 200% sure from the *north* of Darkshore
07:30.34Grumand *only* from there
07:30.52neeneeGrum - I know that the pet comes from there, I just meant Ashenvale is south of Darkshore :)
07:30.54Grumits a 'rare' spawn when you pick up a cat figurine
07:30.55NightHawkTheSaneI think neenee was saying -ashenvale- was south of darkshore. >.>
07:30.57neeneeI know
07:31.01neeneeYup :)
07:31.43Grumoooh lol
07:31.45Grummeh
07:32.22neenee:)
07:33.02Grumanyhow, that pet is cool
07:33.06Grumespecially when it learns prowl
07:33.10Grumyou really have to look to see it ^^
07:34.10NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i have him on my hunter
07:35.29GrumMazzranache <-- i had that one too
07:35.36Grumleveled it up to ~40
07:36.18Grumand then i had to get rid of it .. because i needed to train the toptier skills for my cat :'(
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07:37.50Grumand since i didn't want to spec BM without having a proper pet i had to train a random lvl70 cat O.o
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07:40.36neenee:)
07:40.53neeneeI tried that Rak'shiri cat
07:40.56neeneeBut didn't like it
07:41.05Pkekworkhello, im ur mom petr. say hallo and be the nice ok
07:41.11neeneeMaybe I'll try another cat soon, but I keep coming back to my boar.
07:41.19Grumstill, charge is the best *ever* skill for soloing hunters
07:41.25neeneeI doubt many moms type with 'ur'
07:41.36neeneeYup, I love charge :)
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07:42.28Grummy basic grindrotation: max range - aimeshot, concussive shot, normal shot rotation till the mob is in charge-range, pet charge and just finish it off
07:42.32Grumyou never ever get hit :D
07:42.34Grum*aimed
07:43.16Grumyou do about ~4-6k dmg before the pet hits the mob, it takes aggro and you can finish it off
07:43.19neeneeI send out my pet first
07:43.28Grumthen you have to be in range or manually use charge
07:43.37Grumif you dont do that you loose the threat from it
07:43.56Fisker-how do i fix the stretched lootframe in xloot?
07:44.11neeneeI can't send my pet from a distance to attack without it getting aggro?
07:44.11Grumthe target has to be in 8-25yd range for the charge to actually work properly
07:44.31Grumneenee: charge can do 5k insta-aggro if used correctly
07:44.33neeneeFisker-, I've had that pop up a few times too, perhaps a /rl helps, but I'm not sure. Usually it just went away
07:44.40neeneeGrum, define correctly
07:45.01Grumneenee: it has to be used from 8-25yds from the mob
07:45.05Fisker-doesn't here :I
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07:45.12Grumhence i pull it towards myself without having my pet attack
07:45.29NightHawkTheSaneso, "incorrectly" is sending your pet in when it;s >25 yards and having it auto-cast charge when it gets close enough?
07:45.37Grumi had a screenie of the threat - sec
07:45.47Grumyes but the problem with autocasting is the secodn you send it away and it has a cooldown it will use it
07:45.54Grumso either manually do it or have the mob within 25yds
07:46.03neeneeCharge is on auto-cast for me and it seems to work fine
07:46.14Grumwell it does not if you dont see the aggro it causes :)
07:46.40Grumit does some aggro if you 'miss' the charge (because of the attackpower buff on the first hit after)
07:47.47NightHawkTheSanei'm kind of failing to understand the 'incorrect' usage, i don't see how autocast could cause a problem
07:47.53neeneeMe too.
07:48.12Grumhttp://grum.nl/images/threat.jpg <-- that is how threat looked on KTM after a successful charge
07:48.33Grumbut KTM actually had borked values for it
07:48.38Grumand it is actually ~5-6k
07:48.45Grumerm 4-5
07:48.52neeneeAnd does it not do that amount of threat when it's auto-cast?
07:49.32Grumthe problem with autocast is that the pet will use the skill the instant send it to the mob
07:49.39neeneeIn the chat the person mentions 3.5k though, so they're exaggerating there too, up from 3.2 in KTM
07:49.57Grumif the mob is not within 8-25yds you will loose the extra-threat effect
07:50.02Grumneenee: the values are off that ktm shows
07:50.04neeneeIndeed, but it will only cast it if it's close enough to reach the mob I think
07:50.14Grumno it will do it when you send it away
07:50.20neeneeNo it won't
07:50.21Grumbecause it is classed as a 'speed enhancer'
07:50.23Grumit will ...
07:50.36neeneeIf you're far away, the pet will do its normal run, then, when it's close enough, it will charge.
07:50.45Grumnope
07:50.46Wobin. o O ("Oh I'm sorry, this is 'Abuse'")
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07:50.48Grumonly if its on cooldown
07:50.58neeneeLet me verify this now then
07:51.08Gruminstall Omen and use it while soloing
07:51.19neeneeI don't want to.
07:51.23Grumand i do think threat scales up with level - not sure how much though
07:51.33Grumat lvl70 4-5k from just a charge is really .. well .. normal :)
07:52.01Grumwhich basicly makes 'not getting hit' the easiest thing in the world for a hunter
07:52.45neeneeSorry, but I just confirmed it, and when Charge has cooled down and I have my pet attack a far-off mob, he will run to the mob and then, when within charging range, will charge.
07:52.51neeneeIt does this every time.
07:53.51neeneeYup, just trapped a mob closer, sent my pet again and it runs to get into range and then charges.
07:53.53Grumand the threat you get from it?
07:54.30Grumbah i wish i could check how it was a couple of patches back, i didn't experience the same 'convenience' :D
07:54.57neeneeNot a clue, I do not use any addons for that. I just know my pig is still red/charging when it reaches the mob :)
07:55.08neeneeI've always seen this experience though.
07:55.11neeneeEr, had it.
07:55.13neeneeNot seen it.
07:55.32neeneeOtherwise charge would be useless
07:55.48neeneePerhaps you're confusing it with dash or dive, those are cast instantly independant of range
07:56.37neeneeAnd you do have a cat you say, so it would be understandable :)
07:57.13Grumi never had a cat while leveling
07:57.21Grumand my current cat i mis-specced so it hasnt got dash O.o
07:57.44Grumbtw the red part is not 'succesfull charge' btw
07:57.47CIA-1203babu * r52547 10TrainingWheels/ (TrainingWheels.toc externals.txt):
07:57.47CIA-12TrainingWheels:
07:57.47CIA-12- Important stability update
07:57.47CIA-12- Externals are now fixed
07:57.52cryogenmorning
07:57.52Grumthat is the buff for the attackpower it gets
07:57.58neeneeoki
07:58.06ckknightanyone doing anything for Halloween?
07:58.06Grumget omen orso and check the threat values
07:58.16neeneeWell, it shows the pet is still being affected by the charge it cast
07:58.20Grumi really had diff values going out there when you did it from far away
07:58.35Grumneenee: yes but the high-threat component went lost when i did that
07:58.40Grumand that is the only reason i used it
07:58.46Grumto keep that bloody thing from my deadzone
07:58.50neeneeI just know that when my boar charges, I won't be able to get aggro off it, it's very reliable :)
07:59.38neeneeAnd if something comes too close, I trap it, or use Intimidation if available, or I just run away until I can do either or my pet re-gains aggro from attacking it while I run :)
08:00.12neeneeOr I try to disengage or when I really am down on health, I feign death.
08:00.24Fisker-....
08:00.33Fisker-why are alliance retarded on our server?
08:00.37Fisker-I get out of SM pvp tagged
08:00.45Fisker-and like 6-7 alliance is attacking me
08:00.48Fisker-all level 70
08:01.00Corganhorde is doing that on my server @_@
08:01.01Fisker-and i kan keep myself alive enough so that 2 group members get out and kill them for me
08:01.11Corganare*
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08:02.05CIA-12AutoBar:
08:02.05CIA-12-- 2.02.03.12 beta ()
08:02.05CIA-12-- Fix right click on popup button not firing
08:02.05CIA-12-- Soulstones added to conjure button
08:02.06CIA-12-- Fixed an update issue on last use
08:02.12neeneeHm. 'retarded' seems to be sprinkled into conversations like 'noob' and 'lame', without much reason other than it being something popular to say. Like 'gay' sometimes too. This is gay, that is gay.. meaning I do not like it.
08:02.18GrumDisengage .. i never ever used that spell .. and i mean *never* :D
08:02.33neeneeGrum, well, to me it's there to be used when necessary :)
08:02.40Fisker-i would say it's retarded to attack a person they can't kill
08:02.48Grumbut for it to work .. its .. well .. lol ..
08:02.56Grumthere hardly is any situation where it works
08:03.00neeneeFisker - how would you have done without those two partymembers they did not know were there?
08:03.21Fisker-why would they expect there was only 1 in SM?
08:03.34Grumits 7vs1 .. thats keeel
08:03.39neeneeIndeed
08:03.39Grumand how the hell did you stay alive?
08:03.48neeneePerhaps he was a paladin
08:03.48Fisker-not to mention there were like 10 hordes out there as well
08:03.50Fisker-<-pala
08:03.55neeneeNo skill to stay alive then.
08:03.56Grumbubblehsin
08:03.56Fisker-almost died though
08:04.08Fisker-but the warrior made it out and feared them
08:04.21Fisker-just got enough healing from holy shock to get a heal in :P
08:04.24neeneeAh well, they just reacted to what they saw.
08:05.30neeneeIt happens all the time, like people swooping in the gank a lonely player fighting some mobs, after which rogues/druids might de-stealth to kill the ganker.
08:05.55Grumpve server ftw
08:05.56neeneeDoesn't mean the ganker was retarded or lame or anything, it just means the lonely player was well-prepared or.. lucky.
08:07.12Fisker-to be honest it would be expected that i was having friends over for instancing :P
08:10.04neenee:)
08:11.01chexsumtheres 10'000 corpses at sm on my server
08:11.59theoddone33heh
08:12.01theoddone33yeah
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08:13.29CIA-12TrainingWheels:
08:13.29CIA-12- Externals fixed again T_T
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08:25.26johSavedVariables/Foo.lua isn't loaded unless the addon 'Foo' is loaded, right?
08:27.46Toadkillerjoh: Well technically after reading the toc Blizzard does not need to load those.  Dunno if they actually do or not.  Why do you need to know?
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08:31.16ToadkillerYeah even on my pvp server SM is a madhouse of ganking
08:31.26ToadkillerEr PVE server that is
08:32.32joequincy_anyone here familiar with how Cartographer Mailboxes works?
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08:33.06CIA-12NiHao:
08:33.06CIA-12- Cosmetic slash command fixes
08:33.06CIA-12- Added custom session save/load
08:33.26sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2043952003&sid=1&pageNo=2#25 lol.
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08:36.23Recluseoh nice, wau loads fisheye as changelog
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08:39.11theoddone33distinct possibility that no one cares: I got my hands on the source code for excitebike 64 today... I'm tempted to port it to something
08:40.01theoddone33just fun and exciting to see the internals of a highly respected console game that I've never played
08:40.04joequincy_Hey, I'm trying to do a simple mod of the Cartographer Mailboxes addon so that it registers banks instead of mailboxes. Whenever it loads, though, I get an error
08:40.06joequincy_"...dOns\AspectsBar\libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua line 487:
08:40.07joequincy_<PROTECTED>
08:40.33Orionshockjoequincy_: then add it to the translation table
08:41.19joequincy_how do I do that? I litterally cracked the thing open tonight, I don't really have any documentation to check
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08:41.33Reclusei remember original excitebike, didn't know there was a n64 version
08:41.48theoddone33yeah I only played the NES one
08:42.05Grumjoequincy_: you are using something like: L["Bank"] somewhere
08:42.17theoddone33and as shady as this may sound it's not, I work for the place that made the game, I just didn't realize they still had the source sitting around
08:42.25Reclusehehe
08:43.15joequincy_Grum: Yes, I am. What do I need to do to fix it?
08:43.18theoddone33anyone looked at marsbar? I'm wondering if it'd be worth trying to reimplement it using ace libraries
08:43.32Grumjoequincy_: look where the code defined 'L'
08:43.50Grumthere is a line like: L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-xxx") somewhere near the top
08:44.00Grumor in a file that is loaded before the file you are editing now (see the .toc)
08:44.16joequincy_okay, I see it
08:44.32Grumwell there is a list of stuff that is likely in the format: ["text"] = true,
08:44.57Orionshocktheoddone33: don't try to "Ace" something for the sake of it :P
08:45.02Grumfor the language the table is in (there is a 'enUS' or 'deDE' or any other locale in the definition)
08:45.18Grumadd your new text you have put into the L["..."] to the list
08:45.30theoddone33well it's kind of sparsely maintained
08:45.54theoddone33I thought reimplementing it would a) teach me addon coding b) ensure that I'm able to keep it in working condition
08:46.03Orionshockin that case - if your going to take un the reigns of it then ... "Ace'ing" it would be /ok/
08:46.10joequincy_["Show minimap icons"] = true,
08:46.11joequincy_["Show bank icons on the minimap"] = true,
08:46.11Grumand for enUS you can choose to use the original text (do: ["Bank"] = true, ) or use something else instead of "true" to be the default translation
08:46.13joequincy_["BankLocations"] = true,
08:46.14joequincy_["Bank"] = true,
08:46.15Grumyup
08:46.16joequincy_like that?
08:46.18Grumyeah
08:46.42joequincy_that's already in there... *forehead furrow*
08:46.46Grumwhat it does it fills: L with for enUS the "Bank" index with "Bank" itself
08:46.48Reclusemake sure you have the bank line for each language - even if they are all =true
08:47.01theoddone33http://groups.google.com/group/marsmod/files this is the official distribution channel for it :P
08:47.04Grumthat is the second thing
08:47.10Grumwhat wow do you have? enUS? or deDE? :)
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08:47.19theoddone33those other mods may be awesome... but I have no idea since there's no description of them
08:47.25joequincy_euUS
08:47.30GrumRecluse: you can not have =true for anything other than enUS
08:48.02joequincy_sorry... enUS*
08:48.08Orionshockjoequincy_: thow it up on google code
08:48.16RecluseD= sure you can! i use =true in my Cartographer_Notes hack for all languages lol
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08:48.35joequincy_pastebin ok? I'm more familiar with that
08:48.43Orionshockhehe - ya...
08:48.45Reclusewell, it works for me, in another country, maybe not
08:48.53GrumRecluse: then RockLocale is more leanient than AceLocale
08:48.58GrumAceLocale will scream
08:49.20Recluselol
08:49.34Grumdepending on what you use O.o
08:49.51Orionshockfk AceLocale / RockLocale, you should be smart enough to do the local functionality yourself
08:49.57joequincy_http://joequincy.pastebin.com/m7dd56b61
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08:51.14Grumwell
08:51.29Grumi can only say: should be working, thus that would mean you would have to have another error before the one you pasted :)
08:51.43Grumthat for some reason borked up the loading of the locale-table
08:51.50Orionshocki love it - my auto mod cheats with daily quests
08:51.53OrionshockNINJA
08:52.01Grumcheats?
08:53.59Orionshockit clicks faster
08:54.18Grumhehe
08:56.08Orionshockdoing the escort quest - alliance hunter drops in to get it while im stting there stealthed
08:56.47Orionshocki reach over and triple click the npc, 1 to pass focus to WoW and twice because im jittery, and my addon clicked though the gossip faster than the hunter could :D
08:57.21Grumhaxxx going to get you banned now
08:57.21joequincy_yeah... I just double-checked, and came up with two errors http://joequincy.pastebin.com/m7de1976d
08:57.23Orionshockhe then trys to kite mobs into it to kill the escort
08:57.34theoddone33man actually marsbar seems ridiculously clean
08:57.36Orionshockit's a perfectly legit mod
08:57.40theoddone33acing it might... make it worse?
08:57.57Orionshocktheoddone33: wait for Ace3 to come out formaly
08:58.11Grumone thing that strikes me as odd:
08:58.19sag_ich_nicht[10:39] <theoddone33> distinct possibility that no one cares: I got my hands on the source code for excitebike 64 today... I'm tempted to port it to something <--how the hell did you manage to do that? break in at nintendo?
08:58.23OrionshockAce3 will accomidate addons that would get converted, where as Rock is better to start the mod ontop of
08:58.24GrumAceLocale(Cartographer_BankLocations) vs loaded addons: CartographerBankLocations, v1.0
08:58.50theoddone33sag_ich_nicht: I work for the people that made it, except like 9 years ago... I found it on an archive drive
08:58.50GrumOrionshock: converting from Ace2 to Rock is .. really easy
08:59.05sag_ich_nichttheoddone33 i see
08:59.06OrionshockGrum: that's because they are very identical
08:59.12sag_ich_nichtwell
08:59.36sag_ich_nichti suggest you don't port it to some other system... the N64 is quite... port unfriendly.
08:59.40Grumwe'll see what Ace3 brings whenever it gets finished
09:00.02[Ammo]Ace3 is close to alpha state
09:00.18Orionshockmy Description of Ace3 = "Obsessively and Overly Modularized"
09:00.20[Ammo]just a few more things to fix up
09:00.22Grumand close is days or weeks or months?
09:00.34[Ammo]2 things to do
09:00.41Grumfinish it and complete it?
09:00.51[Ammo]slash config, and minor fixups
09:01.03Grumwhat about a gui-config?
09:01.08[Ammo]it's done
09:01.11[Ammo]lemme find screenie
09:01.17Grumpiccs indeed :D
09:01.18[Ammo]hmm screenie lost
09:01.21nevcairielI really dont see how Ace3 could benefit from being not-so modularized
09:01.46[Ammo]'but now I have to type an extra string to get an extra lib'
09:01.50[Ammo]'why not cat them together?!'
09:02.00joequincy_Grum: where can I switch the "CartographerBankLocations, v1.0" to have an underscore?
09:02.09Grumdunno
09:02.17Orionshocknevcairiel: i don't mean that in a bad light.
09:02.20Grumi dont know if that error-reporting addon is leaving it out
09:02.26Grumnor if that is causing your error
09:02.28joequincy_hmmm
09:02.28Grumbut your code looks good
09:02.30[Ammo]it's not overly modularized
09:02.33nevcairielOrionshock: obsessivley is a negative ring to it
09:02.34Grumwhat is the addon-dir called?
09:02.37nevcairieland overly too
09:02.37nevcairiel:P
09:03.04nevcairielhttp://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5699/aceconfigdialogto1.png
09:03.09nevcairielscreeny from yesterday iirc
09:03.14[Ammo]ah yeah
09:03.15Orionshockin a classic tone yes - it could also infer that the author pays close attention to the code
09:03.18[Ammo]I was looking for that screenie
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09:03.26[Ammo]but some fucktard pulled the plug on my irssi host :p
09:03.28joequincy_Everything that relates to it has the underscore... the folder, the lua, the toc...
09:03.30nevcairielhehe
09:03.34Silviu-Looks good
09:03.36Grumand how is that created?
09:03.41nevcairieloptions table
09:03.42[Ammo]generated from an options table
09:03.44Grumbig option table? or ..
09:03.45Grumnice
09:03.56nevcairielyou can, if you like, still interface with AceGUI directly
09:03.57[Ammo]you can also make a custom one using the widgets
09:04.01nevcairiellike you could with waterfall
09:04.06Grumcan you do a bit of both?
09:04.11nevcairielhum
09:04.14[Ammo]dunno
09:04.15nevcairielprobably not
09:04.18Grumextend the options one with 'spiffy' stuff?
09:04.20[Ammo]you'd have to ask nargiddley
09:04.35[Ammo]but you should not need to do both :)
09:04.39joequincy_err.. not the lua... per-se
09:04.39Grumfor example when you want 1 page to be special but cant be arsed to create all the other pages by hand as well
09:04.40joequincy_more like anything that references it in the lua
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09:05.29SHaGhey! any ops around?
09:05.31nevcairielanyway, the layout in our dialog-driver is basicly done like you can see, nargiddley is still interfacing the controls with the behaviour stuff, but thats only leg work, so to speak
09:05.33[Ammo]no
09:05.47Orionshockone real question i have for Ace3, is it going to hang and brake on things it doesn't recognize that would otherwise be used by a different system, IE RockConfig?
09:05.48Grumjoequincy_: is your addon actually called with or without the underscore? :)
09:05.56Orionshock<PROTECTED>
09:06.02SHaG:) can i pm you plz [Ammo]?
09:06.09[Ammo]shrug
09:06.11GrumSHaG: just say it here
09:06.12[Ammo]depends on what
09:06.18[Ammo]Orionshock: what do you mean?
09:06.26[Ammo]Orionshock: we're not going for the big borg config screen
09:06.26nevcairielOrionshock: it'll validate a table, and if it contains invalid fields, error at you
09:06.32joequincy_Grum: meaning?
09:06.43SHaGsvn account i requested a while ago... still not up, and i'd really like to submit a change
09:06.53[Ammo]SHaG: you'll have to ask Kaelten about that
09:06.56Orionshockwell nevcairiel answered the question
09:07.00Grumjoequincy_: what is your addon called on the disk? how isthe directory calledE?
09:07.11GrumSHaG: how long is a while ago?
09:07.16Grum3-4 days? just wait
09:07.17SHaGlike a month
09:07.19Grumlol
09:07.20nevcairielsomething like niagara, or what RockConfig does now, wont be in the default Ace distribution
09:07.22Grumre-request it ^^
09:07.29[Ammo]probably got lost then SHaG , request it again
09:07.31Grumyup
09:07.35SHaGkk, will do
09:07.41SHaGthanks :)
09:07.50Grumnevcairiel: it will not? but that is the options-from-config thing mostly
09:07.51joequincy_interface\addons\cartographer_banklocations\
09:08.01johAny good Ace-equivalend for Discord Art?
09:08.03joequincy_opps... didn't capitalize
09:08.07Grumjoequincy_: i really have no idea O.o
09:08.10Grumthe code looks good
09:08.15[Ammo]Grum: no, that's a borg solution
09:08.31Grum[Ammo]: let people pick ? :)
09:08.31joequincy_shoot... :P
09:08.32nevcairielGrum: every addon has to register their own table to be used, no automated gui creation of tables that were possibly not designed for the gui
09:08.35[Ammo]and with the dialog lib an addon can have very diffeent dialogs
09:08.41nevcairielof course someone can still write an addon to do that
09:08.43nevcairielbut we wont
09:08.55Orionshocktbh - from that screenshot ammo provided - i'll stick with rock config, i find it more organized :P
09:09.02Grumbut seriously nice work on that GUIlib its imba
09:09.10[Ammo]Orionshock: this is just one example
09:09.16GrumOrionshock: i think that screenshot is showing all the possiblities
09:09.20[Ammo]Orionshock: you can have any dialog you want
09:09.25[Ammo]Grum: it's not :)
09:09.25nevcairielbaggins config is somewht a complex example
09:09.27Fisker-NOOOOOOO
09:09.30Fisker-i got attacked again
09:09.31Fisker-"lolret"
09:09.38Fisker-"O shi- forgot divine shield is on cooldown"
09:09.42Fisker-You die.
09:09.44Fisker-:(
09:09.51Grumthen i hope it is showing more than it should in a normal config ^^
09:10.00[Ammo]baggins config is complex
09:10.05[Ammo]check it out in the current version
09:10.08Chomperspaladins don't dps you silly moose!
09:10.21Orionshockcomplexity invites disaster
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09:10.58[Ammo]but I suggest just checking out the dialogs people will create with it soon
09:11.00ckknighteveryone should just shut up about pallies. They're supposed to just heal
09:11.03ckknightor tank
09:11.05ckknightor dps
09:11.09ckknightbut that's it!
09:11.10nevcairielor die
09:11.16[Ammo]dying is a good thing too
09:11.28theoddone33I want to run kara with 10 paladins sometime
09:11.28[Ammo]but only after doing the DI thing on me
09:11.39[Ammo]my guild druids did a 10 druid kara
09:11.51Grumlol
09:11.55nevcairiel10 pallys would be too weird, too much melee dps
09:12.03nevcairielor rather, not-dps
09:12.10nevcairielmelee pokers!
09:12.10Tigerdyrhm.. there's no way of grabbing the current date from within WoW is there? I can find CurrentTime, but not date
09:12.10Chompersanti-dps
09:12.10theoddone33hm
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09:12.14Chompersthe mobs gain health
09:12.14theoddone3310 druids would be better
09:12.27GrumTigerdyr: look at ClockFu?
09:12.30[Ammo]I think they had a few restos ferals and BOOMkins
09:12.33johParrot vs SCT - what's your preference?
09:12.39[Ammo]MSBT
09:12.40nevcairieljoh: MSBT
09:12.40nevcairiel:P
09:12.44OrionshockParrot
09:12.44Chompersmsbt
09:12.52vhaarrUIErrorsFrame
09:12.56joh:P MSBT is?
09:12.56theoddone33parrot
09:12.59Chompersbah beaten like a red headed step child
09:13.12ckknightdude, I'm a red-headed step child
09:13.14ckknightgo fuck yourself
09:13.20ckknight:-P
09:14.09GrumParrot > *
09:14.31joh:)
09:14.46johWhich tooltip addon do you use?
09:14.46GrumTigerdyr: well to give you the answer i had to do the same hehe
09:14.58Grumstill Tinytip because i'm lazy
09:15.03ckknightjoh: I recommend CowTip :-P
09:15.04Grumbut Cowtip ..
09:15.07Grumyeah indeed ;D
09:15.33ckknightP.S. I'm also the author of CowTip
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09:15.35ckknightso I'm biased
09:15.41johckknight: :D I've tried it but found it hard to configure - don't know DogTag :)
09:15.43nevcairieltinytip because i dont need any more features
09:15.55ckknightjoh: TinyTip might be better for you then
09:16.03ckknightjoh: or nab someone else's CowTip configuration
09:16.13johYeah, I've used TinyTip for a long time now, but I'd like something different.
09:16.24johI guess I should sit down and learn DogTag once and for all :P
09:16.31Fisker-[Ammo] it was not the paly but his 4 friends who mowed me down
09:16.42Fisker-his seal of command only hit me for 4xx :D
09:16.55Orionshockjoh, tbh, i never learned dogtag and use ... default setup for cow tip
09:17.11johOrionshock: I found the default setup to be too much information tbh...
09:17.13Orionshocki've re arranged it here and there, removed some lines.. but that's about it
09:17.20johAh
09:17.32Orionshockyou don't need to know DogTag to do that
09:17.34ckknightremoving arbitrary lines works, btw
09:17.58Orionshockin fact removing arbitrary lines is prefered as it allows you to add stuff later
09:17.59johYeah sure, but I'm picky :P If I want to customize something, I want it exactly this way and that way :)
09:18.15TigerdyrGrum: hehe ;-)
09:18.17Orionshocksorry joh, no cure for OCD
09:18.22ckknightI recommend checking out Antiarc's config on the forum, joh
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09:19.03johOrionshock: OCD?
09:19.03Orionshockckknight: you know what's needed for DogTag... a java based tag compliler
09:19.03johckknight: I will, thanks :)
09:19.03ckknight...why?
09:19.03Orionshock~dict OCD
09:19.12Orionshock~fail purl
09:19.13purlpurl: Fail.
09:19.25Orionshockckknight: to help make tags
09:19.29johHaha :P
09:19.33Orionshockto help people make tags
09:20.10Orionshockcome on not everyone has the time to rack their bran over a wiki page for hours because their OCD :D
09:20.27sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518902236&sid=1 someoen should write a mock reply to that
09:20.40sag_ich_nichtsomething containing "mighty fire voodoo boom"
09:20.45johDoes anyone know if it's possible to put Grid into "configure mode" where it loads up fake frames for let's say a 40-man raid?
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09:22.11Grumjoh: you cant
09:22.14neeneeNot possible for as far as I know
09:22.22johDamn :(
09:22.25Gruminvite 5 people into a raid and you can stretch the window
09:22.31neeneesag_ich_nicht, why not take the initiative?
09:22.33Grumtill 40m size
09:22.38CIA-1203andyca * r52552 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: Update zhTW
09:22.50ckknightsag_ich_nicht: ooh
09:22.53johGrum: Yeah, I guess...
09:22.59ckknightgonna use lots of math symbols
09:23.01ckknightwith lots of non-mathy stuff
09:23.31neeneeDoesn't he just want DrDamage or such?
09:23.52johWhat's a good viewport addon? Skinner is too much...
09:24.00sag_ich_nicht[11:22] <neenee> sag_ich_nicht, why not take the initiative? <--because i'm not a US player?
09:24.09neeneeAh.
09:24.11Grumjoh: i think utweaks orso
09:24.16Grumnot sure what the real name is O.o
09:24.20sag_ich_nichtutweaks is a bitch.
09:24.24sag_ich_nicht*otweaks
09:24.29sag_ich_nichtand
09:24.34sag_ich_nichtotweaks is not a viewport addon
09:24.39Chompersckknight: Mad.Men.S01E13.DSR.XviD-NoTV
09:24.41Chompers:)
09:24.42johWhat about "Aperture"?
09:24.46ckknightdownloading now
09:24.47sag_ich_nichtthat is one.
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09:25.00baer_moin.
09:25.07sag_ich_nicht...
09:25.12sag_ich_nichtthis is not a german speaking channel
09:25.15GrumChompers: what is mad men about?
09:25.19sag_ich_nichtdummer piefke :O
09:25.23baer_bla. :)
09:25.47sag_ich_nichtGrum: mad men, DURRRRR
09:25.51Grumsigh
09:26.03sag_ich_nichtcladfoo: what.
09:26.14clad|awaylol
09:26.16baer_sag_ich_nicht: you won't stop me greeting anyone with "moin." :-p
09:26.17Chompersadvertisment guys in the 60s Grum
09:26.34Grumstandalone eps?
09:26.41baer_even my spanish-speaking friends have to suffer this. :-p
09:26.51Chompersall interlinked
09:26.59Grumbooo
09:27.05Grumthen i have to 1x01 as well
09:27.27Grumoh ican actually .. rarw
09:27.35sag_ich_nicht[11:26] <baer_> sag_ich_nicht: you won't stop me greeting anyone with "moin." :-p <--*stab*
09:27.45baer_*evade*
09:28.30CIA-1203jerry * r52553 10PitBull_AltAura/update.lua: PitBull_AltAura: bugfix in non-split mode, when the debuff offset changes, invisible debuff frames are marked as unanchored.
09:29.23GrumChompers: Mad.Men.S01E01.DSR.XviD-NoTV can better be good then ;D
09:29.27ckknightdone, sag_ich_nicht
09:29.29chexsumckknight when you add a timer with librocktimer that has a uid does it remove a previous timer with the same uid ?
09:29.39Grumit should :)
09:29.40ckknightit sure does.
09:29.52chexsumthanks
09:29.57ckknightGrum: Mad Men is a great show
09:30.02Grumi got all eps avail
09:30.06ckknighthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518902236&postId=24711481514&sid=1#1
09:30.09Grumso i'll see if its worth to leech ;D
09:31.04Grumlol mean you
09:31.20sag_ich_nichtckknight: lmao
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09:31.50ckknightI just threw in a bunch of pseudo-random mathematical symbols (all which give proper equations), mixed in some WoW terms instead of x/y/z/etc.
09:31.51sag_ich_nichtespecially
09:31.51sag_ich_nicht1.024 * time played in seconds ≠ π*HKs^2
09:32.30Grumhehe
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09:36.17sag_ich_nichtassuming you would be incorrect and it actually DOES equal that, one should be able to kill 2418 members of the opposing faction in just as little as 5 hours, ckknight.
09:36.27johWhat's an easy addon for texturing a frame? EePanels?
09:36.34sag_ich_nichtskinner.
09:36.48ckknightyea, I should've made it minutes.
09:36.52johCan you apply custom textures with Skinner?
09:36.53sag_ich_nichtin combination with eeplanels 2.
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09:45.45CIA-1203andyca * r52554 10AuldLangSyne/ (Fu/zhTW.lua Note/zhTW.lua): AuldLangSyne: Update zhTW
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09:51.34joequincy_Grum: you still there?
09:51.53Grumnoes!
09:52.03joequincy_fixed it
09:52.25Grumby doing? :D
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09:54.01CIA-1203sayclub * r52555 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
09:54.01CIA-12AutoBar:
09:54.01CIA-12- Updated localization koKR
09:55.08joequincy_http://joequincy.pastebin.com/m7dd56b61
09:55.10joequincy_look at lines 119 and 120
09:55.11joequincy_I changed those without understanding the ramifications earlier... but after you explained the whole L["blahblah"] thing, I fixed it
09:55.13joequincy_now it's
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09:55.14joequincy_L["BankLocations"]
09:55.16joequincy_L["Module description"]
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09:55.51sag_ich_nichtafk
09:56.06joequincy_the only hiccup I have left is that the icon doesn't work :(
09:56.07joequincy_I get a red question mark, instead of the pretty gold gem...
09:56.21Grumi dont see what you fixed tbh O.o
09:56.40joequincy_wait a tic...
09:58.07joequincy_http://joequincy.pastebin.com/pastebin.php?diff=m990c043
09:58.35joequincy_that shows the differences (red is gone, blue takes its place)
09:59.39CIA-1203jerry * r52556 10PitBull_AltAura/ (core.lua options.lua update.lua): PitBull_AltAura: Add an option to allow debuff to be layout after the buffs in the same direction as the buff in non-split mode
09:59.48Grumthat still doesn't explain the error you got btw :)
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10:01.15Grumaaah
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10:01.20Grumthe second time you actualyl got different errors
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10:01.24Grum~fail Grum
10:01.25purlGrum: Fail.
10:01.28Grumdidnt see that :D
10:01.29joequincy_actually, it does...
10:01.31joequincy_<.<
10:01.33joequincy_>.>
10:01.34joequincy_I had not updated the one in my addons folder when I got those errors (there were 3, and the first two related to the two lines I changed)...
10:01.36joequincy_oops
10:01.47Grum*bonk*
10:02.04baer_BÄM!!!
10:02.15joequincy_boo?
10:02.17GrumBLIFF!
10:02.38joequincy_The Book of Biff!!!!
10:02.59joequincy_*FOR PONY!*
10:03.14GrumMy little pwny?
10:03.17joequincy_(please tell me someone got that)
10:03.26Grumno i didn't
10:03.36baer_nope.
10:04.40joequincy_http://www.lfgcomic.com
10:04.41joequincy_at one point, the characters are all going into a fight, and (ff long description) one yells FOR PONY!
10:04.55baer_anyone tried movie-recording on wow for macos?
10:06.18joequincy_http://archive.lfgcomic.com/lfg0042.gif
10:06.20joequincy_baer: I want to, but I never get around to bothering with it.
10:07.47CIA-1203tattersail * r52557 10IncomingHeals/ (Graph.lua IncomingHeals.toc):
10:07.47CIA-12IncomingHeals:
10:07.47CIA-12- HoT visuals overlapped with numbers on the graph
10:07.47CIA-12- Increased max heal and hot for graph to 6000
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10:08.37Reclusehaven't checked system impact, but the new winamp is pretty at least
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10:24.02johIs it possible to move the chat window tabs?
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10:25.37Fisker-yes
10:25.42Fisker-disable simple chat
10:25.44Fisker-i think
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10:32.22johFisker-: It is already disabled :P I was wondering if I could move the "tabs" of the chat window to the right side of the chat window instead of the top.
10:32.43Ellipsisjoh, not really possible
10:32.50johEllipsis: Ok :P
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10:35.03sag_ich_nichtckknight yo uthere?
10:35.05sag_ich_nicht*you there
10:35.20sag_ich_nicht10 bucks cart trainers in now broken
10:35.21ckknight*shrug*
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10:37.11Fisker-:O
10:37.18Fisker-Hellgate London actually supports 64-bit
10:37.40Fisker-now if only the game didn't suck
10:38.17xylchI have heard nothing bad about Hellgate London thus far...
10:40.19Fisker-then you haven't read about it :D
10:40.36Fisker-A lot actually are pretty disappointed by the beta
10:41.02Fisker-and the diablo 2 attribution/skill point system sucked so it was retarded of them to use the same system
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10:42.24Fisker-you're mean
10:42.34hasteidd
10:43.02Fisker-But seriously i had to remake like 3 or 4 characters because Blizzard balanced it
10:43.08Fisker-which was lame as hell
10:43.37Fisker-why would anyone have the same system when a stupid small change means that several weeks of work have gone to waste_
10:43.48sag_ich_nichtFisker- hi.
10:43.50Fisker-oh and the interface sucks balls
10:43.51sag_ich_nichti did not sign any NDA
10:43.55sag_ich_nichtnor did i get any email yesterday
10:43.58Fisker-worse than Diablo 2
10:44.03sag_ich_nicht*hint hint nudge nudge*
10:44.05Fisker-fuck the nda
10:44.05sag_ich_nichtNOT imho.
10:44.24hastepenis
10:44.34Fisker-"Oh noes they are going to ban me from the beta"
10:44.34Fisker-QQ
10:44.52Fisker-Everyone who signed up got accepted yesterday
10:44.53Fisker-who cares
10:44.58sag_ich_nicht:X
10:45.07Corganwhat happened?
10:45.08Fisker-it's a stress test
10:45.14sag_ich_nichtyour mom happened, Corgan.
10:45.22Fisker-Hellgate: London beta was extended to ~all signups
10:45.37manywhats the point of these beta when all you do is trashed upon release anyway.
10:45.47manyor rather: participating in these betas.
10:45.51Fisker-fix bugs
10:45.52Fisker-duh
10:46.13manyohwell, yeah. blizz has some advantage. whats yours? :)
10:46.47SunTsumany: Having fun?
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10:47.04Fisker-i just want to stab Adys in the heart
10:47.15manyyou mean without the counterstrike kiddies? ohwait, theyre the first who want to participate
10:47.17EllipsisFisker-, why are you so violent?
10:47.20Ellipsisrough childhood?
10:47.23manysorry :)
10:47.24Fisker-yup
10:47.39Fisker-I was raped by Ellipsis when i was a child
10:47.43Ellipsiso rly?
10:47.46SunTsumany: Well, what's gaming all about? Having fun while playing ;)
10:48.44Fisker-yeah
10:49.19CorganI just want to love you fisker
10:49.20Corgan<3
10:49.39Fisker-i'm gonna rape you in your dreams
10:50.15Fisker-just gonna try the engineer in HGL
10:50.35sag_ich_nichtFisker-
10:50.47sag_ich_nichti purpose we put Ellipsis in a sack and throw her off a bridge in central london
10:51.10sag_ich_nicht~throw Ellipsis
10:51.11purlACTION winds up and throws Ellipsis over the moon.
10:51.21sag_ich_nichtmhm... close enough.
10:52.02joequincy_WARNING! remote amounts of on-topic-ness follow:
10:52.04joequincy_anyone know how to erase a Cartographer DB? Like, an addon automatically registered a new database... and that information stays around forever... but I want to use it as if it were brand new...
10:52.31[dRaCo]resetting the profile
10:52.33Ellipsissag_ich_nicht, y u has 2 b leik dat?
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10:55.14joequincy_lets say I don't want to lose all my main cartographer data.. just the stuff in a dependent addon
10:56.05sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: there is a missaligned synapse in my brain, linking my loneliness directly proportional to my anger level, this - obviously a vicious circle - leads to mean behaviour.
10:57.07[dRaCo]joequincy_: you could of course manually delete the data from the SV
10:57.36joequincy_I'd like to know how to do that :)
10:58.04[dRaCo]open the file with the text editor of your choice and have fun ;)
10:58.07Ordogdoes somebody use a mac in here ?
10:58.12sag_ich_nicht:(
10:58.18joequincy_which file?
10:58.36Ordogim kind of stunned by the BIG price gap between 2x1GB DDRII 667 (+132€) and 2x2GB DDRII 667 (+704€!) when buying a new imac 20" from store.apple.com
10:59.00Ellipsismemory prices are like that
10:59.01Ellipsis>_>
10:59.06Ordogno they are not ^^
10:59.21[dRaCo]joequincy_: <addonname>.lua in your WTF/<account>/Savedvariables oder WTF/<account>/<server>/<char>/SavedVariables dir
10:59.32sag_ich_nichtno, they're not, Ellipsis.
10:59.36sag_ich_nichtapple prices are like that.
10:59.38joequincy_ah, gotcha
10:59.46Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: they are lately
10:59.48Ordogeven if i buy hardcore OC freakout watercooled adapter included DDRII 1333mhz default ram its only 230€
10:59.48joequincy_and yes, Apple is insane
11:00.10Ordognot 704 Oo
11:00.27Ellipsisalso, I totally didn't bother reading the second half of his message, so I didn't even realize it was Apple's fault
11:01.00Ordogaccording to all onlinestores i checked 2 GB DDR2 667MHz PC5300 SO-DIMM - iMac (Intel), MacBook, MacBook Pro are around 89€
11:01.41Ordogcan i just buy the freakin ram there? or do they change the mainboard/northbridge/ram controler when you go for the 4GB extension ?
11:01.54manyhaha
11:02.08manythatll atleast explain the pricedifference
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11:02.12Ellipsisthey might use a different motherboard, that could be why it's so expensive
11:02.23Ellipsisalthough I don't know why they'd bother
11:02.53Ordogwhy dont they say that on the store page then?! i doubt SOMEBODY might NOT ask themselves what the heck that price gap is about ^^1
11:03.50manywell
11:04.02Ordogi found out that the newer imac is using those tiny s0-dimms you normally use in notebooks but those arent more expensive than normal dimms either
11:04.03manythe ram upgrade includes the golden upgrade which makes all of the imacs surface golden
11:04.14Ordogye ... i guess so
11:04.17joequincy_you overestimate the people Apple tries to sell to...
11:04.22Ordogthat imac is for my GRANDFATHER damnit ^^
11:04.43manyhe has no use for 4G Ram anyway.
11:04.46Ordogsomehow he insisted on the 4GB ... for whatever reason
11:04.55manylol
11:05.44joequincy_it's cuz Apple says GET BIG NUMBERS ON YOUR HARDWARE (it make big numbers on our profit sheet)
11:05.47many"yeah the 4gig are in. what it shows only 2? oh. yea! thats the halfdisplay. it shows you only half the ram. mhmhm. nono, some strange appleism. mhmh. nono, i dunno why, they are just strange sometimes."
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11:06.57manydid he told you to buy an imac too? if not, just buy a nice lenovo.
11:07.12Ellipsishttp://youtube.com/watch?v=J5z4Vs26-TI
11:07.16Ellipsisowned XD
11:07.16Ordoghe told me to buy that exact model
11:07.17Grum[12:11:00] * Fisker- attacks Grum .. *parry*
11:07.27manyOrdog: okay. and it was his own idea, right?
11:07.42manyooooh
11:07.44manyi know that one
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11:07.55Ordogya well, my dad is somewhat mac fanatic
11:08.03many"my neighbor has the 17" 2G model, i need the 20" 4G now."
11:08.22Ordogits his money ...
11:08.47Ordoghmmmm its mine when its not anymore ... damnit! ;p
11:08.48manywhatcha discussing then, order, tell him delivery time is 12 weeks and have fun for three months :-P
11:09.15many"they are out of ram modules" seems like a good excuse. :)
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11:13.39joequincy_I have a 17" 4gig MacBookPro... it's niiiiice :D
11:14.14Grumyou can boils eggs with it
11:19.16_rane17" isn't nice :(
11:20.40joequincy_yes... it is when it's paired with a 23" CinemaHD Display ;)
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11:24.13Ordogjust talked to the service guys at apple and they told me, citing: "Ya well, i cant answer that question because we dont understand it either. We are urging everyone that calls not to buy the 4gb upgrade but go to a local reseller and let them do the upgrade for 200€ instead""
11:24.27Ordog!!!!!!
11:24.31Ordoglolz
11:24.33baer_!
11:24.54baer_ckknight: ping.
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11:27.43Orionshock:D  i got 2 healing epix tonight in kara.. it's been a while
11:28.14Orionshock[Masquerade Gown][Earthsoul Leggings]
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11:42.07CIA-1203Firik * r52558 10BunchOfBars_HealLines/: BunchOfBars_HealLines: initial commit
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11:49.09CIA-1203Firik * r52559 10BunchOfBars_HealLines/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BunchOfBars_HealLines: committing files
11:49.54Fisker-haahahahahah
11:49.56Fisker-this is so stupid
11:50.15Fisker-Boss mob: Run to instance portal, shoot him, go out when you're about to die, heal up, go in, rinse and repeat
11:51.47CIA-1203Firik * r52560 10BunchOfBars/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
11:51.47CIA-12BunchOfBars:
11:51.47CIA-12- New Threshold module
11:51.47CIA-12- removed unused texture
11:54.22Firik[Ammo]: can you delete 2 more files for me please, bunchofbarslod.bat and bunchofbarslod.sh in BunchOfBars thanks
11:54.32[Ammo]I will
11:54.49Firikif I can't edit them when I add a new module they might as well be deleted :) don't think anyone uses them anyway
11:54.59Firiktnx
11:55.17CIA-1203ammo * r52561 10BunchOfBars/ (bunchofbarslod.bat bunchofbarslod.sh): BunchOfBars: delete shell scripts on request by Firik
11:57.57[Ammo]Firik: you can ask Kaelten permission for editting them in your addon
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11:59.05Fisker-oh wtf
11:59.16Fisker-just got 3 rifles and a gun from this boss
11:59.18Fisker-...
12:00.31Firik[Ammo]: nah I don't think people use when wowaceupdater does it for them
12:00.42Firik*use them
12:00.50[Ammo]depends ;)
12:01.00[Ammo]I don't use WAU, but I don't use bunchofbars either
12:01.51FirikI think people that don't use wau probably don't mind if the modules are always loaded.
12:02.09[Ammo]I do, I run all things LoD where p0ossible
12:02.17kzAm i the only one have a wierd bug with Xloot?
12:02.27[Ammo]kz: what bug
12:02.29Firikit's not LoD with BoB, it's only so you can disable the modules you don't use/need
12:03.12kzThe loot window stretches from a point at right side all the way to my mouse instead of autosizing it just at my mouse
12:03.19kzall i did was update it today
12:03.40[Ammo]there was some report on the forum about that
12:03.47[Ammo]deleting your xloot saved vars might be the solution
12:04.56kzAhh.. i'll try that. ty :)
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12:07.17Livid``any warlocks using autobar here ?
12:07.37[Ammo]I use the old one before it got raped into shit
12:07.52Livid``well i'm using this new one and the conjure button is screwed completely for me
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12:08.13Livid``and all its showing is the damned firestone
12:08.20Livid``which ofc is immensely useful ;S
12:09.23breser~seen nymbia
12:09.26purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-136-127.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 39m 29s ago, saying: 'Fisker-: your mother.'.
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12:13.27sag_ich_nichtmhm
12:13.44sag_ich_nichtwtb pseudo stancebar in BT3.
12:16.01JerresHello, I'm new to ace and wow interface scripting, I need some guide or tip where I can reproduce how to make a big, scrollable editbox... Can please someone help me?
12:17.29JoshBorkeJerres: i would look on www.wowwiki.com
12:18.51JerresOkay, thanks for the hint, but I already searched there and I only found  this: http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_ScrollFrame
12:18.52Jerresand it doesn't really help me :(
12:19.29[Ammo]Jerres: or you could check out an existing addon that has such a box, TinyPad for instance, and mimick that
12:19.52Silviu-Ammo !
12:19.59Silviu-Lf Warlock for our raid
12:20.02Silviu-gogo server transfer
12:20.03Silviu-;)
12:20.04Fisker->*
12:20.05Jerres[Ammo]: Okay!
12:20.06Fisker-:(
12:20.08Fisker-Nymbia is so mean
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12:20.28[Ammo]Silviu-: no thanks
12:20.36Silviu-:P
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12:35.58Firelemminghi all
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12:52.35Firelemminganybody here that can help me with frames?
12:53.25Ellipsis~asktoask
12:53.26purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
12:53.47Fisker-~asktoasktoask
12:53.59Fisker-monsterfail
12:54.59Firelemmingok ok, ill just ask then :)
12:56.27Firelemmingi have a frame that i can move arround, when it stops a function is called to save the new position to the profile, but when i reload the ui the frame did move but no to the right position on the screen, there is just a small change in position from where it standard comes
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12:57.59Ellipsisare you saving the position yourself or letting layout-cache handle it?
12:59.01Firelemmingi have a function like this: local point,relativeTo,relativePoint,xOfs,yOfs = self.frame:GetPoint()
12:59.02Firelemmingself.db.profile.posX=xOfs
12:59.04Firelemmingself.db.profile.posY=yOfs
12:59.32Firelemmingnot using xml btw
12:59.57Ellipsisprobably need to account for scale there
13:00.15Firelemminghmm interresting point
13:01.23[Ammo]Firelemming: check out WindowLib on wowace svn
13:01.26[Ammo]it has solid positioning
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13:01.45Fisker-ag` jeg kan spamme dig
13:01.54ag`rly ?
13:02.12Firelemmingok ty ammo
13:02.25Fisker-ya rly
13:04.00Ellipsishax
13:06.52Fisker-http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/10/robot-cannon-ki.html <-omg aimbot
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13:32.14NeuromasterHey ckknight, are you around?
13:35.36Firelemmingi want to set the backdrop of a button to the picture of one of the raid icons, but i cant find them in the mpq's does anybody know where i can find them?
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13:40.16Strigoi|LRIs it possible to somehow set editbox border alpha with SimpleChatMod to 0?
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13:40.46neeneeIf you insert that feature
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13:43.03Strigoi|LRyeah I figured that out , but not sure how to do this, is it possible to read about it somewhere? (I'm not quite familliar with coding)
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13:43.11CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
13:43.11CIA-12-zhCN update
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13:52.07NeuromasterWell since ckk doesn't seem to be immediately available, would anyone else know if/why CowTip seems to break Cartographer_Herbalism's ability to detect new nodes?
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13:54.01grzesieqUhm, are there any other guides available for TourGuide except for the default one?
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13:59.58Balstorwoot finally extracted the headless horseman stuff
14:06.35kenlyricgrzesieq: there's a guide on how to make your own and sumbit it :)
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14:12.13johWierd, in Grid party frames, the frames are put in the center of the parent, but in the raid frames they're anchored to the bottom left.
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14:20.15neeneeNeuromaster, it doesn't break finding new mining notes/nodes here
14:20.49NeuromasterHmm. Any idea what might be different on my end?
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14:21.07neeneeYou probably have a conflicting addon, though I do not know which one
14:21.16neeneeI do know that I use almost the default UI
14:21.31neeneeApart from a few addons such as Cartographer, Cowtip and Baggins.
14:21.44NeuromasterThing is, it happens even when the only things I'm running are Cartographer, Cartographer's associated modules, and CowTip
14:22.00neeneeAh.
14:22.08NeuromasterI'll retest it in a moment, but I'm pretty sure it's the same thing with all my other gadgets disabled.
14:22.08neeneeThen it's a conflict between them
14:22.24neeneeYes, but you just said that it was so.
14:22.44Balstorhmm anyone got a simple wav to mp3 converter?
14:26.51NeuromasterAlright one more time. Let's see what I can do with the absolute bare minimum enabled...
14:31.43NeuromasterEnabling Cartographer, Cartographer [Herbalism], Cartographer [Notes], Cartographer [Professions], Lib: Ace2, and LibRock-1.0... it works.
14:33.20kadrahilum, did you install and use Ace2 and LibRock as addons?
14:35.31NeuromasterI've got WAU set up to update without externals, so all those libraries show up separately in my addon list, if that's what you meant. For testing I hit the checkbox on the six names I mentioned earlier
14:35.39kadrahilah
14:36.02NeuromasterRight now I went back and checked CowTip and I'm searching for another herb node to test that with.
14:36.35NeuromasterTerokkar is farmed out, I should have stayed in Dun Morogh
14:36.36kadrahilis cowtip giving you errors when you point at an herb?
14:36.50NeuromasterNope.
14:37.05kadrahilwhat exactly is the problem then? i just jumped in here :)
14:37.18NeuromasterWith cowtip enabled, new nodes don't get recorded
14:37.33kadrahilby cartographer's herbalism module?
14:37.37NeuromasterYeah
14:38.06kadrahilyou might post about that on the forums. i don't know if ckk wrote the mining/herbalism modules for cartographer or not
14:38.26Xinhuanmining and herbalism definitely works
14:38.29Xinhuani don't have cowtip
14:38.35kadrahilno it doesn't, go away Xinhuan
14:38.40kadrahil~flee
14:38.41purlACTION runs away screaming
14:38.57kadrahilXinhuan: <3
14:39.01Xinhuanso something in cowtip is probably conflicting
14:39.08Xinhuanmaybe a forgotten local?
14:39.19Xinhuanherbalism has got some updates lately this week
14:39.27Xinhuancould look at the changes
14:39.55NeuromasterI posted in the CowTip thread & put in a bug report on the little Jira thing
14:39.56NeuromasterI think
14:40.10Xinhuanwell cowtip hasn't got any updates i think
14:40.14Xinhuanfor a long while now
14:40.21Xinhuanwhile herbalism has
14:40.39kadrahili personally use tinytip
14:41.15NeuromasterI was trying to find something like an official thread for the herbalism mod, but even though there're lots of people having trouble with new nodes nobody else seems to have mentioned CowTip
14:42.05kadrahilmight be a good time to bring it up :)
14:42.54johIs there a list of all DogTag tags somewhere?
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14:43.31SunTsujoh: On the dogtab page in the wiki
14:43.41SunTsuDogTag, that is
14:45.52johhttp://wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0?
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14:48.25johnvm found it :)
14:49.14SunTsujoh: Right, there is a link somewhere to the tags
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15:08.06NeuromasterOK that's just bizarre
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15:08.47NeuromasterThe bug with CowTip seems like it depends on some of the actual settings...
15:12.06NeuromasterWhen world objects are set to fade out new nodes get detected. When it's set to immediate hide, new nodes don't get detected.
15:15.40Ellipsisthat makes sense
15:15.56Ellipsisnodes are detected by seeing the name in a tooltip
15:16.48NeuromasterWell the tooltip still shows up, it just disappears immediately when you move the mouse off instead of fading out slowly
15:17.08NeuromasterI guess it's probably the problem, but it still seems like kind of a misfeature
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15:18.04Ellipsiswell, at least there's some sense in what's causing the problem
15:18.15Ellipsissounds like there should be an easy fix though
15:19.01NeuromasterHope so. Spent most of my morning trying to track down what the problem is.
15:19.13NeuromasterI have this idea that if I can be as specific as possible it might get fixed sooner :)
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15:40.40kadrahilckknight: http://blizzard.com/jobopp/software-engineer-user-interface.shtml
15:41.00Alfer!seen Alfer
15:41.11Alfer!seen Antiarc
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15:41.57neenee~seen alfer
15:42.01purlalfer is currently on #wowace (2m 24s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 50s, last said: '!seen Antiarc'.
15:42.07Alfer))
15:42.13kadrahilO_o
15:42.21kadrahili c wut you did thur
15:43.02Alferso who can help me with Antiarc's WoW Armory Tools )
15:43.46Alferi have this errors Warning: mysql_query(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in Z:\home\localhost\armory\create_sig.php on line 74
15:43.53CIA-1203helium * r52565 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua:
15:43.53CIA-12LibBabble-Spell-3.0:
15:43.53CIA-12- commented out the 2.3 entries in zhTW, as we can only know the correct "translation" after the 2.3 released
15:43.53CIA-12- rearrange the zhTW lines to match the order of enUS lines to make it "compare-friendly"
15:43.53CIA-12- add missing "icon entry" (not the actual icon name) in the icon section
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15:44.44CIA-1203helium * r52567 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome-UI-FuBar.lua:
15:44.44CIA-12ClosetGnome:
15:44.44CIA-12- updated zhTW localization
15:44.44CIA-12- change ClosetGnome-UI-FuBar.lua to UTF-8
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15:45.11CIA-12Babble-2.2:
15:45.11CIA-12- Spell: updated zhTW localization
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15:46.33cncfanatics~seen Provus
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15:47.34cncfanaticsah well, he's off
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15:48.49CIA-12Ace3 - AceConfigCmd:
15:48.49CIA-12- Work in progress.
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15:50.50cncfanaticsMikk, ping ?
15:51.14SunTsuJosh_Borke: How is your alarm clock-project going?
15:51.23Josh_BorkeSunTsu: meh, not =/
15:51.29Josh_Borkebusy with life unfortunately
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15:52.08kadrahillife > wow
15:52.16SunTsuJosh_Borke: Oh, OK, that's quite important, I see
15:52.27Josh_Borkeand i can't find the motivation to create a dropdown menu :-D
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16:03.35Killmorethe wave_timer for hyjal is not supose to be include in bigwigs now ?
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16:03.53CIA-12Baggins_AnywhereBags:
16:03.53CIA-12- TOC 20200
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16:08.53CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
16:08.53CIA-12- updated zhTW localization
16:09.32Kuja^~seen rabbit
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16:09.45Kuja^err
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16:10.18vhaarrKuja^: hi
16:10.20[Ammo]try vhaarr kuja :p
16:10.21[Ammo]hehe
16:10.25Kuja^ah
16:10.25vhaarr:P
16:10.54Kuja^vhaarr: wrt Cart_mining, got some error while doing a data sync
16:11.08Kuja^[2007/10/19 16:55:48-890-x4]: Cartographer_Mining\addon.lua:393: Babble-Ore-2.2: Reverse translation for "Tin Vein" does not exist
16:12.22vhaarrKuja^: what language is your client?
16:12.37Kuja^german
16:12.41vhaarrright
16:14.00CIA-1203rabbit * r52572 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining: Work around localization issues for non-english clients.
16:14.01vhaarrKuja^: try now
16:14.36Kuja^okay
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16:35.25Alferso who can help me with Antiarc's WoW Armory Tools )
16:35.36Alferi have this errors Warning: mysql_query(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in \home\localhost\armory\create_sig.php on line 74
16:36.59ulicdid you setup the mysql db and put it's connection options in the _db.php file?
16:39.57Alferyep
16:40.08Alferi'm setup all cfg in _db.php
16:40.17Alferand now a have this error (
16:40.50cncfanaticswell, u have a bad link with the DB
16:41.23Alferhmm ..
16:42.29ulicmaybe double check all the db connection stuff
16:43.20Alferwait )
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16:44.39ulicanyone know lua pattern matching, and can tell me what ([^%t]+) might match?  I know %s is string, %d is digit, but I don't see anything about %t.
16:45.12Alferohh i'm stupid ((
16:45.20Alfer$db_user = "root" ( withouy ;
16:45.43Alferso guild stat work
16:45.56ulicIt happens :)
16:45.59Alferand sig not work ..... very very long loads
16:46.23buuOk.. so what does "fightData[targetIndex] = del(fightData[targetIndex], true)" do?
16:46.29buuOr perhaps, why?
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16:47.00ulicsome contact would be nice :)  Looks like TagCompiler stuff for Assessment maybe?
16:47.28ulicer context not contact
16:47.52Alferso how to repear sig ?
16:48.06ulicAlfer: what's it doing now?
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16:48.36AlferWhere i create sig . Sig dosent create ( He is very long load and nothing
16:48.49Alfersorry for my (
16:48.53Alferme *
16:49.30ulicafter it stops loading if you view the source of the web page do you see any errors hidden in there someplace?
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16:51.51Alferso if load hi is writre Direct hotlinking isn't allowed . Use provied . nyud.net:8080 links ar armory.mmo-champion.com ((
16:53.01Alferand writre Field 'idstr' doesn't have a default value
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16:54.20ulicdid you edit the sig_config.ini like the readme said, changing the OKReferer line?
16:54.37Alferyes i'm edit
16:57.30Alferand i have trouble with field idstr
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16:58.49CIA-12Skillet:
16:58.49CIA-12-Update locale zhTW
16:59.12ulicidstr is a field in the database in the sigs table, maybe that table didn't get created properly.
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16:59.28ulicif you have a fresh install, I might just blow away the database and recreate it.
17:00.29Alferi use this request
17:00.31AlferCREATE TABLE `sigs` ( `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, `params` text NOT NULL, `created_at` datetime NOT NULL, `charname` varchar(80) NOT NULL, `server` varchar(80) NOT NULL, `params_hash` varchar(32) NOT NULL, `idstr` varchar(16) NOT NULL, `last_access` datetime NOT NULL, `ipaddr` varchar(15) NOT NULL, PRIMARY KEY (`id`), KEY `idstr` (`idstr`), KEY `params_hash` (`params_hash`)) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;
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17:01.04KaeltenI'll see and raise you a call(['svndumpfilter', 'include', '--quiet', '--preserve-revprops', '--drop-empty-revs', '--renumber-revs', '/trunk/%s' % name ], stdin=wowace_dump, stdout=project_dump)
17:01.39ulicyou can't see and raise on a table using strict betting rules :)
17:02.10Kaeltendamn
17:02.34ulicsee == calling, and once you call you can't raise, you just raise, or just call :P
17:02.45Kaelten:P
17:02.48ulicdamn US gov. I wish I could play online for money again.
17:03.06Brunersyou cant?
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17:03.20ulicnope, US players are banned from playing online for money.
17:03.34ulicand the online poker companies have complied with the law
17:03.54ulicI could try to setup an account in canada or something, but it's too much effort.
17:04.13ulicI just played $2.50 20-person tourneys for fun.
17:04.19Kaeltenulic: well now you won't be able to loose all your money playing online poker
17:04.47ulicKaelten: but I'm not one of the players with a problem, but yet I get punished :(
17:04.49manybrr
17:04.50AlferI recreate base and again a floor a mistake
17:05.03KaeltenI tried texas hold'em at a casino in mississippi, hated it
17:05.22KaeltenI much prefer blackjack
17:05.46manyblackjack, koks und n****.
17:05.54Kaelten?
17:06.05Megalonblackjack, drugs and hookers
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17:06.14many(:
17:06.53manyalthough "hookers" was a new word for me
17:07.20ulicAlfer: not sure, sorry.  It's working fine for me, but I've been running it for a while and don't remember.
17:07.55ulicblackjack is ok, but I prefer playing against other people and trying to out play them.  Rather then just playing the math.
17:08.15ulicbut to each his/her own
17:08.16vhaarrulic: feel free to commit with the readme.txt changes
17:08.19Alfercan you give me you _db.php (without pass and login) and sig_config.ini
17:08.44ulicvhaarr: think it's enough?
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17:10.16ulicvhaarr: maybe you can tell me what %t would mean in lua pattern matching.  i'm just trying to learn and I don't know exactly what it does.  I know how it behaves where I'm using it, but not what it really means.
17:10.16CIA-1203helium * r52575 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PlayerNotify/ (PlayerNotify.lua enUS.lua zhTW.lua):
17:10.16CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
17:10.17CIA-12- PlayerNotify: the regex "^.+: %d+/%d+$" in UIErrorsFrame_OnEvent need to be localized
17:10.17CIA-12- PlayerNotify: updated zhTW localization
17:11.45Ellipsiso.O
17:12.06Ellipsismost unlocalizable regex evar?
17:12.29manydepends, if you regex dates for example, they need to be localized
17:12.57vhaarrulic: as far as I know, there's no such thing as "%t"
17:13.16ulicAlfer: my _db.php is default except for changing the $db & $cache_db stuff
17:13.38ulicvhaarr: I didn't think so.  I thought I found it one other BigWigs module, but now I can't remember where.
17:14.09ulicI'm using it for Omor in LittleWigs where the aura name changes in Heroic and normal, so one trigger can catch both spell names.
17:14.18Alferand so sig_config.ini ?
17:14.21ulicI'm sure I copied from another module, but I can't find it.
17:14.41ulicAlfer: doing two things at once, one moment.
17:14.51Alferk
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17:16.19ulicAlfer: I have SaveBandwidth=true, also make sure your using \ in your OKReferer, like www\.servername\.com
17:17.08Alferthx
17:17.17ulicand on my live server I don't have the line 'Disabled=' don't know if that matters
17:17.30vhaarrulic: that can't possibly work, and you should just use .* instead
17:17.54ulicvhaarr: last I tested it it worked, like I said I don't know why :)
17:17.58vhaarrulic: "^([^%s]+) ([^%s]+) afflicted by (.*)%.$",
17:18.12Alferso didn't work (
17:18.20AlferField 'idstr' doesn't have a default value
17:18.25Alfer:'(
17:19.46ulicvhaarr: that should work too :)  I wish I could remember where I copied that from.
17:21.15buuWhere could I find what this del() function is doing?
17:21.16buuIs it not a built-in?
17:22.21Firelemmingdoes anybody know where the texures are for the raid icons? so that i can set them as a background for a frame
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17:24.50ulicFirelemming: looks like maybe "Interface\TargetingFrame\UI-RaidTargetingIcons"
17:25.22Firelemmingyeah but the wierd thing is i cant find them in the mpq files
17:25.51ulicdid you search for RaidTarget?
17:26.02dylanm? just use the interface extraction tool
17:26.51ulicFirelemming: locale-enUS.MPQ is where I found the .blp file
17:27.26Firelemmingok, let me try it. maybe i just buy glasses :)
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17:29.28Firelemmingooo, there in 1 file?
17:29.42ulicyep
17:29.43Firelemminginstead 1 blp for each icon
17:30.02ulicblizzard likes to do there.  There must be an advantage but I don't know what it is.
17:30.08ulics/there/that
17:30.29PilyaI have a quick and easy question for anyone. I am trying to checkout an addon - but I cannot figure out how to either get svn access - or if there is an anonymous access for pulls only. Can someone clue me in????
17:30.57Grumhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ is anon
17:31.12Grumbut if you are downloading an addon you might as well get it from files.wowace.com
17:31.20Grumthey get prepacked for you
17:31.39Pilyaahh.. thanks Grum - was trying to get to the dev subdomain - my mistake
17:32.04Grumdev is the commit-part
17:32.09CIA-1203kemayo * r52576 10FuBar_QuestsFu/PlayerNotify/ (PlayerNotify.lua enUS.lua zhTW.lua):
17:32.09CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
17:32.09CIA-12-PlayerNotify: Instead of localizing UIErrorsFrame_OnEvent regexp, check for "^.+: ?%d+/%d+$"
17:33.05manyl10n strips spaces?
17:33.29Funkeh`ulic, "^(%S+) (%S+) afflicted by (.+)%.$" is better iirc
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17:33.34Funkeh`brb
17:34.17Grumwhat does the last '%' do in that regex?
17:34.22ulicmaybe Funkeh` know which module I stole that other line from.  Oh well, doesn't really matter
17:34.27Grumor 'magic-match-string'
17:34.31ulicGrum: escape char for the .
17:34.40ulicsince . is a special character
17:34.56Grumoh .. right .. i see ... % instead of \ :)
17:35.01ulicyep
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17:37.50jy_there is a bug with closetgnome
17:38.05jy_when you make a set with a ring on 1st finger
17:38.13jy_then another with the same on another
17:38.23jy_same ring on the other finger*
17:38.32jy_and swap between the two
17:38.34jy_sets
17:38.47ulicI believe that's mentioned in the readme, but yes I think that's a bug.  Just keep the ring on the same finger :)
17:38.59jy_^^
17:39.01vhaarryeah, it's a known bug
17:39.05vhaarrI have -no- motivation to fix it
17:39.10vhaarrso it will never be fixef
17:39.13vhaarrfixed
17:39.13jy_mmh ok ^^
17:39.32ulicwell maybe not never, but never by you :)
17:39.59jy_i would fix it if i had motivation to learn wow and lua programming
17:40.18ulicI've already hacked a cg_resists type module, but I don't like the way I've implemented it, so it needs more love.  I like closetgnome.
17:40.40vhaarr:P
17:40.44vhaarrright, never by me
17:41.00ulicthat's the power of an open community
17:41.03vhaarrindeed
17:41.19vhaarrI've been actively encouraging others to fix those bugs since I first committed CG to the SVN
17:41.23vhaarrby doing absolutely nothing
17:41.58ElkanoI'd rather call tht passive
17:42.00ulicI'm just testing everything one more time before I commit.  Since you change some stuff around.  Just want to make 100% I don't break it.
17:43.34vhaarrElkano: :P
17:46.52durcynElkano: EBBs 2.3 branch.  Possible to set tracking to always be at one end of the buff list, regardless of sorting?  discuss.
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17:47.55LothaerG'Day
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17:49.57Elkanohmm... hard... stick it in its own group :P
17:50.04Lothaer.....?
17:50.09Lothaerhey elk
17:50.47CIA-1203ulic * r52577 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome.lua TODO.txt locales/enUS.lua readme.txt):
17:50.47CIA-12ClosetGnome:
17:50.47CIA-12- Added new feature to remember items that are missing and not overwrite them with the current items when editing sets
17:50.47CIA-12- Added info about above feature to readme.txt
17:50.47CIA-12- Translations will need to be updated
17:51.26CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52578 10FlexBar2/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: \n can now be used as newline for slashcommands
17:51.37CIA-1203scorpion * r52579 10AutoBar/Locale-zhCN.lua:
17:51.37CIA-12AutoBar:
17:51.37CIA-12- Updated localization zhCN
17:51.46Elkanowhat is it Lothaer?
17:51.57Lothaerjust saying hi lol :)
17:52.07Lothaero i dont suppose i still use wowinterface do ya?
17:52.57Lothaeru still* lol
17:52.58ElkanoI do for releases I considere stable ;)
17:53.11Elkanoso for 2.3 there will be some commits
17:53.16Lothaerkk i posted a bug there i found on the PTR u may have found it already though
17:53.27Lothaer<---- Tinyu
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17:55.24CIA-1203funkydude * r52580 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council: tweak
17:55.32mindshiftwow seems to be popular
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17:55.36nevcairielKemayo: is there an option to disable your replaced quest announce thing?
17:56.15NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/u1ktiftoqcbgk <-- lolguard spec ftw
17:56.16Lothaerdoes any1 know if the PTR is done or just offline atm???
17:56.38NeoTron1200 DPS on Gruul too is pretty rad
17:57.37ZhinjioThe OnLoad event for my frame is never getting triggered. I thought it was triggered once .... hmm.
17:57.47ZhinjioIs OnLoad only triggered if you construct your frame using XML?
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18:05.18CIA-1203ulic * r52581 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua:
18:05.18CIA-12LittleWigs: HF/Omor
18:05.18CIA-12- change trigger pattern
18:05.18CIA-12- updated deDE trigger
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18:07.29Zhinjiook. now I'm confused. NONE of my frames are triggering their OnLoad events. What gives?
18:07.36Zhinjiothey're all defined using LUA now instead of XML
18:07.43Zhinjiois that the reason?
18:08.03Zhinjioor do I have to manually trigger that event?
18:08.27Xinhuanif they are defined after a xml template, then onload runs normally
18:08.38ZhinjioI have no XML templates anymore.
18:08.41Zhinjioits all done in LUA
18:08.47Xinhuanif it is purely createframe() without inheritting from a xml template, then there is no onload
18:08.54Zhinjioaha.
18:08.56Xinhuanjust run whatever you want to do in your onload right after the createframe
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18:08.58Zhinjiothank you.
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18:16.11buuThis: "local dataTablePool = setmetatable({ }, { __mode="k" })
18:16.36buu" seems to be a common idiom in some ace code. I understand what the line does, but what is it useful for in the rest of the program?
18:17.00Grumso what does mode=k set? :D
18:17.11Lothaerdoes any1 know if the PTR is down or just offline?
18:17.12buuWeak keys.
18:17.15krkaif a key in that table is unreachable in the code, apart from that table, it can be collected
18:17.26buukrka: But what's the point of storing it in the table?
18:17.29Tupsianyone using xloot in here?
18:17.39krkayou could give attributes to values
18:17.40ulicI use XLoot
18:17.47CIA-1203ulic 07ulic * r52582 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome/ (6 files in 2 dirs): ClosetGnome: Update my dev branch to match changes in trunk
18:17.47buuIt's used in places like local function del(t, recursive)
18:17.51krkathat's typically the use of weak keys anyway
18:17.52Lothaerany1 here use Titan?
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18:17.58KazieAnyone using firefox?
18:18.02Lothaeri do
18:18.05Tupsidoes your frame fillup the screen up to the right border as well since some update in the past?
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18:18.10CheadsNeoTron, which guild is that?
18:18.10KazieHow do you delete your navigation history?
18:18.15GrumKazie: iiew no .. IExplorer is so much better
18:18.21GrumKazie: you looked at pr0n again?
18:18.25Grumand your gf mad at you?
18:18.26buukrka: It just does dataTablePool[t] = true
18:18.33Lothaerkazie
18:18.45EllipsisGrum, I hope for your sake that was a joke
18:18.46Lothaertools
18:18.48Lothaeroptions
18:18.55Lothaerclear now
18:19.01krkacould be some retarded form of table reusage
18:19.04GrumEllipsis: what?
18:19.06Lothaerand check the option
18:19.08krkaor recycling is a better word
18:19.11Ellipsis[11:17:10 am] <Grum> Kazie: iiew no .. IExplorer is so much better
18:19.29Grumno it is
18:19.34Grumit allows remote desktop
18:19.36Grumwhich is imba
18:19.45Grumreally efficient sharing of cpu-cycles
18:19.46LothaerFirefox is safer
18:19.53KazieThere are no "clear now"
18:19.56Tupsii never had any problems with xloot so far, now its rather annoying with this huge frame opening up for every loot
18:20.10Lothaerunder the privacy tab
18:20.21Tupsialready tried deleting and resetting settings to no avail
18:20.53ulicTupsi: I think I've seen a bug like that mentioned (possibly in commit notes), but personally don't have the issue.
18:20.54ElkanoLothaer, if the bug is wrt MinimapTrackingFrame it's fixed in my 2.3 branch
18:21.42LothaerElkano: attempt to index global 'MiniMapTrackingFrame' (a nil value)
18:21.51Lothaerthats with latest update off of the SVN
18:22.05PaeneWhat's the earliest a player has items and spells?
18:22.13Lothaer1
18:22.18Kazieahh ty Lothaer
18:22.18Lothaernp kazie
18:22.50ElkanoLothaer, if you use svn, check branches/ElkBuffBars/2.3/
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18:23.38Lothaerwoops
18:23.42Lothaer<PROTECTED>
18:23.46Lothaeri mean off of WAU
18:24.31Tupsiulic: hmm ill try removing and readding it then
18:24.54Tupsimight be something with another addons causing it
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18:25.45ElkanoLothaer, WAU is for 2.2.3 ;)
18:26.24Lothaerlol
18:27.04Elkanobut check http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ElkBuffBars/2.3/ and copy these files
18:27.19Lothaerwill do
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18:27.55Elkanobut these only work on 2.3
18:28.09Lothaerthats ok
18:28.20Lothaerim spending alot of time on the PTR atm
18:29.23ElkanoPTR has its own addon folder anyways ^^
18:30.02Lothaeri know, i change the destiation in WAU to world of warcraft\wowtest and undate like that
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18:33.45Lothaerwell that was a pain
18:33.47LothaerElk
18:33.57Lothaerany other way to get those other than copy and paste?
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18:36.34Kemayonevcairiel: Disable the module and it should all go away.
18:37.31nevcairieland be like before ?
18:37.32nevcairiel:)
18:38.01nevcairieli fidled with the options, i think i can live with it now tho
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18:38.30KemayoYeah, if that module is gone then everything should be just like it was.
18:38.51KemayoWell, you'd have to tweak the party quest notifications from the default settings to get it *just* like it was.
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18:39.30nevcairielhehe
18:39.44NeoTronBlizzard really needs to translate spell hit / melee hit to hunter/lock pets
18:39.52NeoTronlike they do other stats
18:39.58buuNeoTron: YES.
18:40.03nevcairieli was just confused by the redish scrolling text when i did some quest
18:40.39NeoTron15-16% miss rate (with just 1% parry) is stupid
18:40.48NeoTronand it's usually higher
18:41.07KemayoI should probably set the default to be the UIErrorsFrame so it's less confusing.
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18:44.27buuNeoTron: Can I see your armory page?
18:45.56NeoTron!c us kilrogg Aminai
18:45.57ThraeBotNeoTron: Aminai, Level 70 Human Warlock (2/41/18). 11783 HP; 9141 Mana; 155 mana regen; 225 spell crit; 163 spell hit; 1230 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (1284); 215 shadow dmg (1445); 5.16% dodge; 13 resilience; +60 all resists;[[ TBR: 1067 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28webu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2u6nfl ][ Updated: Fri Oct 19 14:48:41 2007 EST ]]
18:46.24NeoTron!c us kilrogg Wikkodemus
18:46.27ThraeBotNeoTron: Wikkodemus, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (19/21/21). 9373 HP; 9327 Mana; 106 mana regen; 307 spell crit; 199 spell hit; 933 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (987); 105 shadow dmg (1038); 4.72% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1134 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2f5kmh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3afarg ][ Updated: Fri Oct 19 14:49:23 2007 EST ]]
18:46.27NeoTron!c us kilrogg Nawtilock
18:46.27ThraeBotSorry NeoTron, you must wait 12 seconds before making another request.
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18:46.48kenlyricspammers go to hell
18:46.52NeoTronoops didn't mean to do that here
18:46.52kenlyricwithout passing go!
18:47.09NeoTronmeant to use the /w window I had open sorry about that
18:48.08NeoTronso I sent a mail to my friend at blizzzard regarding spell/melee hit for pets
18:48.17NeoTrongot a response in about 30s with only content: forwarded
18:48.20NeoTron:)
18:48.36buuHeh
18:48.38Elkano"friend at Blizzard" sounds nice ^^
18:48.40buuBastards.
18:48.55kenlyricwhat was the email about?
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18:49.05Ellipsisbleh
18:49.14NeoTronadding conversion of spell hit and hit rating to pets for hunters/locks
18:49.31Ellipsisthat would be nice
18:49.41NeoTronheck
18:49.44NeoTronspell crit too
18:49.49NeoTronor rather crit in general
18:49.50Ellipsisthough they'll probably make it like 1/5th of your rating goes to your pet
18:50.09NeoTronthat's fine
18:50.14NeoTronanything helps right?
18:50.17Ellipsishm
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18:50.30Ellipsiswith the crit change, destro lock with imp cannon would be OP
18:50.31NeoTronI don't expect a 1 to 1 conversion but a few percent less would help a lot
18:50.37NeoTronwell
18:50.46NeoTronimp cannon spec was nerfed badly anyway
18:50.54NeoTronplus it's mostly useless
18:50.59NeoTroneven in 5-mans it'd die a lot probably
18:51.12Ellipsisyeah, but it would kick ass for farming
18:51.27NeoTronhehe
18:51.28NeoTronor not
18:51.34NeoTronbecause your imp would pull aggro and die
18:51.38Ellipsislol
18:51.43NeoTronand you overall probably would have a crap spec
18:51.48Ellipsisyeah maybe
18:51.53NeoTronimp spec is by far the worst spec I've used for farming
18:52.08NeoTronin 5-mans w/o aoe it'd be good
18:52.18NeoTronI tried it for a bit when 1.0 speed was still in
18:52.25NeoTronand the imp often outdpsed me
18:52.41NeoTronI had to life tap to give him mana when I myself didn't need it
18:52.50NeoTronremember a good imp spec needs a heavy investment in demonology
18:52.56Ellipsisyeah
18:53.08EllipsisWTB mana funnel
18:53.09Ellipsis;D
18:53.28NeoTronI'd rather get a health transfer HoT
18:53.34NeoTronlike hunters' mend pet
18:53.43Ellipsiserr?
18:53.50alextWTB pvp ability for shadow destruction specs ;[
18:53.58NeoTronor at least make imp health funnel also decrease the channelling time significantly
18:54.07buualext: Haha, no.
18:54.10Ellipsisthat'd be sweet
18:54.14alextbuu: i know it wont happen
18:54.16NeoTronshadow destro is pve..
18:54.19NeoTronfire destro is pvp
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18:54.25alextyah i know just QQ'ing
18:54.26NeoTronall is not good for everything :P
18:54.34buuNeoTron: What is this imp dps you speak of?
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18:54.51Ellipsiswell while I have all these locks in one place to theorycraft with
18:54.52NeoTronspec both imp-talents, and heavy into demo
18:54.54alexti am just horrified by my encounter with a troll mage while I was dpsing dr boom
18:54.56NeoTronand the imp can do some nice dps
18:54.57Ellipsisanyone wanna take a stab at upgrade hints?
18:55.01alexthe actually sat there and spun in a circle while I tossed shadowbolts
18:55.03buuNeoTron: How much?
18:55.04NeoTronalthough they nerfed it significantly
18:55.06alexthe waited till i had him down to 20%
18:55.07alextthen he owned me
18:55.08alextlol
18:55.10NeoTronhaven't tried it since the nerf
18:55.11buuEllipsis: Frozen Shadoweave
18:55.14buuEllipsis: Spell strike.
18:55.16Ellipsisbuu: ...
18:55.18buu=]
18:55.24EllipsisI'm working on spellstrike, can't afford all the mats just yet
18:55.33NeoTrona lot more than the felguard, that's for sure :)
18:55.40EllipsisI'm trying to decide what to go for in terms of loot :P
18:55.48xyuhmm should i get mantle of elven kings over tier 5 mage shoulders?  ^_^
18:55.50buualext: Cast fear?
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18:56.07alexthe trinketed out of the first one
18:56.11alexti didnt get a second one off
18:56.12xyui dont really want to be an arcane mage, but the shoulders themselves are still similar except the hit.  
18:56.22buuEllipsis: Loot from where?
18:56.31Ellipsisanywhere I can go
18:56.44buuEllipsis: Where can you go?
18:56.50Ellipsiswhich means raids without attunements, CE heroics, and any non-heroic 5man
18:56.56alextthe solution really is just to get rich so I can respec 3-4 times a week depending on what i am doing
18:57.07buualext: Dailies for the win.
18:57.12alextyah ;[
18:57.38buuEllipsis: Uh, tier5, gladiator3 spellblade, badge offhand..
18:58.31EllipsisI just looked over badge rewards, the biggest upgrades are neck, icon trinket, and offhand in that order
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18:58.42Ellipsisbut I have no sense of how long it would take me to get enough badges for that
18:58.43CIA-1203thrillseeker * r52583 10ClosetGnome/locales/deDE.lua: ClosetGnome: locales/deDE.lua fix
18:58.43buuGet the neck from kara.
18:58.50Tupsiulic : hmm ok i got it fixed
18:58.53Ellipsisnot keyed for kara
18:58.59buuI..se...
18:59.20EllipsisI've been trying to finish it forever
18:59.23Tupsideleted/reloading/reinstalling/ (all x???? addons) restarting fixed it
18:59.24Ellipsisbut every BM pug I do falls apart
19:00.05buuSounds tragic.
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19:00.25EllipsisI'm tempted to guild-hop just so I can join one that will help me key :/
19:01.17buuIf you can't find 4 people to run a bm with you..
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19:02.55Ellipsisyeah...
19:03.52EllipsisI don't know, I must be doing something wrong
19:03.59EllipsisI haven't gotten an upgrade in weeks other than the horseman ring
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19:08.01CIA-1203mikk 07Alpha * r52584 10Ace3/AceLocale-3.0/ (. AceLocale-3.0.lua):
19:08.01CIA-12Ace3 - AceLocale:
19:08.01CIA-12- Comments
19:12.32XelopherisAnyone know of a dashboard-like mod? A frame that you can parent other frames to, full size of uiparent, transparent black, toggled with one button press?
19:12.56XelopherisWould be good for my 1200 assessment windows
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19:13.53Ellipsisyou mean like Dash? o.O
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19:21.33dylanmToo bad kyahx quit cold turkey :( :(
19:22.16HjalteI would only ever quit like that if I got a girlfriend... So I'll be around for quite a long time :(
19:26.33CIA-1203shadmar * r52585 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.lua: GridStatusHots : Added customizable durations for all HoTs (ex : Tier 5 adds 3 sec to renew), need translations.
19:27.29NightHawkAtWorkdylanm: he did?
19:29.36baer_question about pitbull: can i "clone" the player and target frame?
19:29.55baer_...and have 2 unitframes concerning this two types of units?
19:30.14NightHawkAtWorkbaer_: as far as I'm aware, no, that's not possible.
19:30.47Starinniaits not possible, no options in PitBull anywhere for that behavior
19:30.48baer_damn.
19:30.58NightHawkAtWorkIt's a shame, as it'd be nice
19:31.05Starinniaindeed
19:31.33NightHawkAtWorkI wouldn't mind creating a minimal player/target frame center-screen, especially if visibilty could be toggled based on combat. >.>
19:31.34Zhinjiohuh.
19:31.42NightHawkAtWork(wtb PCUF combat display in pitbull, that is)
19:31.50Zhinjiomy addon's OnEnable event is TOO SOON to access guild information about the player
19:31.50NightHawkAtWorkactually.. *ponder*
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19:31.53Zhinjiothat sucks.
19:31.58manywouldnt a HUD solve that?
19:31.58baer_that was basically my idea, NightHawkAtWork.
19:32.10NightHawkAtWorkmany: I don't like any of the HUDs i've seen
19:32.18baer_dito.
19:32.36manyand they couldnt be modified to your needs?
19:33.18baer_can i make the unitframes transparent?
19:33.20NightHawkAtWorkNot to how I wanted it, no. Although I'll admit i havn't checked particularly recently
19:33.21CIA-1203bayi * r52586 10beql/ (15 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
19:33.21CIA-12beql:
19:33.21CIA-12- Core: Added Keybindging for Minimizing/Maximizing the tracker
19:33.21CIA-12- Core: ChatBox is now hidden after printing a quest information with CTRL+Click
19:33.21CIA-12- Core: Adjusted Icon Positions and Size... again
19:33.22CIA-12- Core: Added "H" Icon for the Quest History Frame
19:33.24CIA-12- Tracker: Unhooking Mouse Events thus enabling camera rotation through the Tracker frame if Tracker is Locked, Tooltips are off and Click options are off
19:34.32dylanmYou can't just use the custom unitid thing to add another "player" ? Interesting.
19:34.41CIA-1203shadmar * r52587 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.lua: GridStatusHots : Added workaround for BG hots not showing (thx : DannyG)
19:35.14baer_ok, other question: what HUDs are out there?
19:35.32baer_any lightweight/minimalistic stuff?
19:36.39Hjaltecncfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/75531
19:36.49Hjaltebaer_: I liked Icehud when i used a hud.
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19:37.37baer_Hjalte: so i guess you do not use it anymore? :)
19:37.51dylanmIf you want really, really barebones there's Phanx's thing.
19:38.08Hjaltebaer_: That's correct, but that's not because it's a bad hud, it's just because i'm not needing a hud anymore i feel.
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19:39.28cncfanaticsback
19:39.33cncfanaticswhat is it Hjalte ?
19:39.36NightHawkAtWorkdylanm: what's phanx's thing? got alink?
19:39.48Hjaltecncfanatics: I got that error when trying to do /fb unlock button=*
19:40.05cncfanaticsHjalte, I'm an idiot, sorry
19:40.53CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52588 10FlexBar2/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: no, replace is not an alias for gsub, idiot \!
19:41.31cncfanaticsHjalte, a zip gets generated in 17 mins
19:41.38Hjaltecncfanatics: Great :)
19:44.07cncfanaticsbtw Hjalte, are u an addon coder ? :p
19:44.27Hjaltecncfanatics: Not at all :) I'm only at the learning java stage.
19:44.34cncfanaticsI did lua before java :p
19:44.35Saint-Nif yer not dont feel bad, cnc isnt either ;)
19:44.55cncfanaticsdepends how you define coder :)
19:44.58Saint-Nheh
19:45.21Saint-Nbaer_: thers a ton of the the simplest being ghud.. thers metahud, icehud, arkhud,
19:45.41cncfanaticshuds are nice together with FB imo :p
19:45.48cncfanaticsput ur most important spells near ur hud with a small scale v:)
19:45.54Saint-Ni use ghud as my unit frames for http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/metal.jpg
19:46.15Matrix110hmmm can i SOMEHOW disable shift+click on some frame=Rock config crap coming up?
19:46.18cncfanaticsmeh, so much space wasted
19:46.19Matrix110its insanely annoying
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19:46.29HjalteSaint-N: There's blood on your screen oO
19:46.30cncfanaticsSaint-N, u waste half ur screen space with textures
19:46.33qwestoNightHawkAtWork: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/OnScreenHealth
19:46.44Saint-Ncncfanatics: its for show, it's not like i actually need to see the screen ;P
19:46.45NightHawkAtWorkqwesto: thanks
19:46.58Saint-Nand the textures are all transperant now and click-thru able
19:47.25Saint-Nalthough im gonna change the bottom i REALLY like the lok of the minimap with that graphic around it
19:48.32cncfanaticsI can see my whole screen, way better
19:48.36cncfanaticsI don't like any textures on my UI
19:49.05Saint-Nsometimes im fine with it
19:49.11Saint-Nim perpetually muckiong with my ui
19:49.19Saint-Nthats not even my current one right now
19:49.41ckknightChompers: you see Mad Men?
19:49.45Saint-Nheh seeing as how ive gone back to bt3
19:50.12CIA-1203rabbit * r52589 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome.lua locales/enUS.lua): ClosetGnome: Add a slot color description to item tooltips when adding or updating sets.
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19:51.39Hjaltecncfanatics: Flexbar_Attributes is fairly high on my cpu usage chart - what's it doing?
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19:53.34cncfanaticsHjalte, all other modules use it
19:53.39cncfanaticsat least, nearly all of them
19:53.56cncfanaticsit handles everything that has to do with button attributes, which is quite a lot
19:54.03cncfanaticsit also keeps a cache of stuff
19:54.08cncfanaticsand triggers event when modifiers change
19:54.14Hjaltecncfanatics: Okay :) Highlighting was also high, but I guess it has to be.
19:54.25cncfanaticsits higher then it should be
19:54.40cncfanaticsbut thats because I'm doing some stuff on UPDATE (every 0.3 sec) instead of on events
19:54.51cncfanaticsas damn blizzard is only implementing the stuff I need to make it event driven in 2.3
19:55.55Hjaltecncfanatics: Many items you need in 2.3, i see.
19:55.59cncfanaticsya
19:56.00cncfanaticstons
19:56.09cncfanaticshalf the API they added I'm gonna need them
19:56.18cncfanaticsand I actualy wonder if they didn't add some stuff after reading some of my comments in my code :p
19:56.30cncfanaticslike PickupItem, I complained about it missing in my comments :p
19:56.56Hjaltecncfanatics: Do you think there will be made a module eventually to allow me to save my layout serverside by converting it to blizz actionbars somehow?
19:57.08cncfanaticsHjalte, why would u want to do that ?
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19:57.36cncfanaticsthe server side saving of blizz is shit imo, u don't keep ur layout anyway
19:57.44Hjaltecncfanatics: If I am going to play on another computer than my own, I have to copy my settings
19:58.03HjalteBut it's not always possible, like on cypercafes and such
19:58.05cncfanaticsput ur savedvars stuff somewhere ? :p
19:58.48HjalteI might just make a copy on the blizz bars and then hide them.
20:08.52Borked|RaiderHow does omen messure the tps? does it like save threat value for sec1 and then one sec later see the increase and then return it as tps or ?
20:09.44Gnarfozhow is dps measured?
20:09.53Gnarfozkind of the same question, isn't it
20:11.06cncfanaticsshould be a derivate ?
20:11.08cncfanaticslogicaly
20:11.36cncfanaticsbut that wouldn't rly work well, interval too short :)
20:11.41cncfanaticsso its probably over a 3-4 sec interval
20:14.10aestilso, if in guild chat, someone were to say something like 'the average month has 3.5 weeks', what would your response be?
20:14.25durcynaestil:  /gremove
20:14.32aestilthat person is the gm.
20:14.32ckknightaestil: it's 4.2 weeks
20:14.42ckknightI think
20:14.44ckknightit's close to that
20:14.53ckknighthang on
20:14.56ckknight~365/12
20:14.57purl30.416666666667
20:15.15ckknight~(365/12)/7
20:15.16purl4.345238095238
20:15.20ckknight4.345 weeks
20:15.23aestilok, so what if, as a follow up to that, they said 'some months have 3 weeks, some have 4, so i ballparked it'?
20:15.32ckknight...
20:15.35ckknightwhat month has 21 days?
20:15.36kenlyricaestil: again, gkick
20:15.43ckknightdoes he know what a week is?
20:15.45kenlyricgescape
20:15.45cncfanaticsaestil, is that idiot only counting ful lweeks ?
20:15.47aestili would think so.
20:15.48kenlyricggetthehellout
20:17.48Saint-Nmaybe hes using jew weeks
20:17.55Saint-N;)
20:18.02kenlyricpretty sure those have seven days too.
20:18.05NightHawkAtWorkcncfanatics: even counting only full weeks you're still fine, as long as you define a full week to be seven consecutive days
20:18.06Saint-Nnot that its actually any different
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20:18.39Saint-Nbut jew weeks(following the stereotype) would imply that there are somehow less days because they wanted to save them ;)
20:18.58kenlyricefficient
20:19.28ckknightwouldn't there be more jew weeks because they steal from the gentile weeks?
20:19.59Saint-Nwell yes
20:20.05Saint-Nbut that would also make for more months
20:20.12Saint-Nthus averaging out to 3.5 weeks a month ;P
20:20.39Saint-Nsince there are alos less real days throughout the year because of the amount of religious holidays and sabbath
20:20.46Saint-Nso jew days == work days
20:20.54Saint-Naveraged out over 12 months is 3.5 weeks a month ;)
20:21.04Zhinjiockknight, I was having some trouble with using librock-db's SetDatabaseDefaults. I ended up using the same method you did in Fubar and checking for a fictional saved variable to see if it was the firstload, and setting a bunch of defaults then
20:21.23ZhinjioSetDatabaseDefaults didn't seem to be doing anything at all
20:21.36kadrahilhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Taiurn541SE
20:21.48kadrahil^ that looks pretty fun, and the graphics look great
20:22.02ckknightZhinjio: FuBar doesn't do things normally
20:22.18CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52591 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Tooltip/Tooltip.lua): FlexBar2: Fix a tooltip bug
20:22.18CIA-1203alar * r52590 10!AlarLib/Libs/: !AlarLib New: added Tablet as an external standard library
20:24.46Zhinjiockknight: it got the job done, so I'm good with that. I was just letting you know about trouble with the SetDatabaseDefaults thinger. Odds are, I was probably using it wrong. *shrug8
20:24.59ZhinjioI like the little dude with the scarf in that trailer, kadrahil.
20:25.06Zhinjioor hat, or whatever it is
20:25.07ckknightpastey your code
20:25.11CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52592 10FlexBar2/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: Fix erronous /fb group help
20:26.45Saint-Ni want that new game for ps3 heavenly blade or something
20:26.53Saint-Nit looks like the god of war people
20:27.19Saint-Nwhich of course means its gonna be great fun, result in loss of sleep and carpal tunnel
20:27.27CIA-1203alar * r52593 10!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/embeds.xml: !AlarLib New: Loading tablet
20:27.43Zhinjiockknight: http://pastey.net/75532
20:28.03ckknightyou're totally doing it wrong
20:28.07Zhinjioheh
20:28.13Zhinjiowell, so I figured.
20:28.19ckknightare you trying to access self.db.profile.whatever?
20:28.23ckknightor self.db.char.whatever?
20:28.30Zhinjioself.db.char.GeneralOpts....
20:28.34Zhinjioyes
20:28.35ckknighthrm
20:28.41ckknightthat should work, then
20:28.43CIA-1203alar * r52594 10AlarBGHelper/AdditionalLibs/: AlarBGHelper New dirctory for specifici libraries
20:29.19Zhinjiofor this particular addon, there are no global profiles. every character must have its own values
20:29.27Zhinjioso self.db.char... for everything
20:29.31ckknightokay
20:29.49CIA-1203alar * r52595 10AlarBGHelper/Libs/: AlarBGHelper Removed specific libraries from Libs
20:29.58Hjaltecncfanatics: Is there any way to copy the actions from some buttons to some other buttons?
20:30.52cncfanaticsHjalte, not rly
20:31.02cncfanaticsjust drag the action on the button again ? :p
20:31.17CIA-1203alar * r52596 10AlarBGHelper/AlarBGHelper.toc: AlarBGHelper Rationalizing libraries
20:31.31Hjaltecncfanatics: I don't remember the order and I can't have both bars shown at the same time :P
20:31.58cncfanaticsHjalte, there ain't directlyu
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20:36.23Zhinjiockknight: by "doing it wrong", were you talking about using profiles?
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20:54.09CIA-1203simlan * r52597 10ActionCombat/ActionCombat.lua: ActionCombat: Fixed minor bug with warnings
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21:02.42CIA-1203nimbal * r52598 10Buffalo2/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
21:02.42CIA-12Buffalo2:
21:02.42CIA-12* converted the anchor tables for timers and labels to simple lists to cut down on table creation
21:02.42CIA-12* streamlined some containers, removed redundant methods
21:05.37Firelemmingi need some help with pictures as a background in a frame/button. i have a blp file that contains serveral different picktures, how do i "select" the region i want to use. im using atm the function: self.frame:SetBackdrop(
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21:09.06tinyboomanyone using omnicc having problems setting the font?
21:09.49CIA-1203nimbal * r52599 10Buffalo2_Dreamlayout/Dreamlayout.lua:
21:09.49CIA-12Buffalo2_Dreamlayout:
21:09.49CIA-12* Removed GetLabelAnchor, it was the same as in the fallback template
21:10.00Zhinjiosyntax check for a function that returns 10 values...:
21:10.22Zhinjioarg1, arg2, arg3, ... = functioncall( passedvalues )
21:10.31Zhinjiowill that successfully ignore the remaining values?
21:10.57krkajust do arg1, arg2, arg3 = functioncall
21:11.01Zhinjiook
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21:13.35Ordoghmmm what would you engrave on an ipod touch Oo
21:13.46Ordogname + ID number? ^^
21:14.11[dRaCo]something more... cool :P
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21:17.43CIA-1203toadkiller * r52600 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
21:17.43CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
21:17.43CIA-12-- Consumable.Quest.Usable -> ["Misc.Usable.Permanent"] = "Permanently Usable Items"; ["Misc.Usable.Quest"] = "Usable Quest Items"; ["Misc.Usable.Replenished"] = "Replenished Items";
21:17.55KemayoOrdog: TOUCH ME!  TOUCH MEEEEEEE!
21:18.33Ordogi guess ill just leave it out ^^
21:18.37Ordogbut good idea!
21:20.14Ordogwas thinking about "umop apisdn"
21:20.41Ordogtrapped in ipod factory, please send help
21:20.44Ordogsth like that
21:21.17Ordogbut then again its just an engraving .. my sister can do that at work also ^^
21:22.27XelopherisThis is a first. Two hours and I have no addons to update O_o
21:23.16Gnarfozso what, go play wow
21:24.11CIA-1203toadkiller * r52601 10AutoBar/ (15 files):
21:24.11CIA-12AutoBar:
21:24.11CIA-12-- 2.02.03.13 beta ()
21:24.11CIA-12-- Consumable.Quest.Usable -> ["Misc.Usable.Permanent"] = "Permanently Usable Items"; ["Misc.Usable.Quest"] = "Usable Quest Items"; ["Misc.Usable.Replenished"] = "Replenished Items";
21:24.12CIA-12-- Fixed issue with popups when using an item then gaining another item not showing the last item
21:25.38ToadkillerTHere go update your AutoBar...
21:26.21Ellipsisheh
21:27.44HjalteKemayo: Questsfu is reporting twice on my team mates quest: 23:25:42 (Hexxar:Breaking Down Netherock) Netherock Crumbler completed. /n 23:25:42 (Hexxar) Breaking Down Netherock completed.
21:28.18HjalteKemayo: Oh. that might be a bad example. But umm..
21:28.56Livid``Toadkiller i made an issue report earlier about warlock healthstones not showing up and only firestones, any idea what could be causing that ?
21:29.11Livid``on the conjure option
21:29.13HjalteKemayo: What I mean is, does it have to report on objective and quest complete if it is the last objective? :)
21:29.42KemayoHjalte: It probably doesn't have to, at that.
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21:31.42CIA-1203rabbit * r52602 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Bugfix for Fizzle support.
21:31.59HjalteKemayo: Also got this error when turning on party quest log :) http://ace.pastey.net/75534
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21:32.05CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52603 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua ItemCache/ItemCache.lua): FlexBar2: Fix a cooldown bug with conjured items
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21:33.03KemayoHjalte: I must confess that the party quest log has... languished.
21:33.39HjalteKemayo: Damn it, how old are you? You use all kinds of strange words.
21:33.55KemayoI have reached the venerable age of twenty-three.
21:35.06Zhinjiocan anyone tell me what is wrong with the following code?
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21:35.15Zhinjiohttp://pastey.net/75535
21:35.46Livid``no end to close the for at line 8 ?
21:35.48Zhinjioit gets the following error on line 27: attempt to index field '?' ( a nil value )
21:36.07Zhinjioyeah, pretend its there. I whipped up example code quick *grin*
21:36.11Livid``hehe
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21:36.45ZhinjioI'm trying to insert values into my dewdrop menu dynamically based on in game data, so I have to build it by hand, so to speakj
21:36.52Zhinjiothe top level inserts work fine
21:36.57aestilwow, looking at the changelog for a mod in the WAU took me to a screen showing a graph and with some information, will this allow me to get a mod's branches if i want?
21:36.58Zhinjiothe second level tinserts do not
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21:38.00Firelemmingwhen i use a tga image that is in my addon directory, what would be the path to use for the bgFile?
21:38.15Livid``well i have something similar which generates dynamic menus but i couldnt get the submenu style thing to work
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21:38.26Zhinjiohrm.
21:38.57ZhinjioFirelemming... [[Interface\Addons\Addonname\Texturename]]
21:39.09Zhinjioyou can leave off the extension if it is BLP or TGA
21:39.24Firelemmingah ok, ty zhinjio
21:39.28Zhinjionp
21:40.08Zhinjiosome other addon has got to be doing 2 level menus (at least) ... I just gotta find an example.
21:40.15Zhinjioor wait for ckknight to get back *grin*
21:40.23Zhinjioor someone else with dewdrop fu
21:40.28OrionshockZhinjio: w/ fubar right?
21:40.55ZhinjioI'm sorry. I suppose I should use the word "fu" in this crowd.
21:40.57Zhinjiohahaha.
21:41.01Zhinjiothats hilarious, actually
21:41.12ToadkillerLivid``: Try the latest version it fixes some issues with popups.
21:41.35Orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBarPlugin-2.0#.OnMenuRequest_or_:OnMenuRequest.28level.2C_value.2C_inTooltip.2C_valueN_1.2C_valueN_2.2C_valueN_3.2C_valueN_4.29
21:41.37Zhinjioorionshock: no, this is my own addon. I'm trying to use dewdrop menus that are dynamically created at runtime, and submenus
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21:42.08Orionshocki'd look into FuBarPlugin see how that function work
21:42.12Zhinjioorion: taking a look...
21:42.38Orionshockthats my best guess
21:43.04CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52604 10FlexBar2/Tooltip/Tooltip.lua: FlexBar2: Tweak item tooltips
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21:43.28aestilgrum, xinhuan is there a way to possibly not include nodes which are so far away from other nodes, that the path it takes you is a waste of time almost?
21:43.43Xinhuanatm no.
21:43.49Zhinjioyeah, thats the funny part. I *am* using an Ace Options table to do this... this is actually sort of a "How do I do a table insert into a subtable" question, more than a dewdrop/Ace question
21:43.49AnacletoMessage: ..\AddOns\FuBar_NinjutFu\Libs\LibSharedMedia-2.0\lib.xml line 1:
21:43.49Anacleto<PROTECTED>
21:43.56Zhinjioorionshock: did you see my pastey?
21:44.09AnacletoCan anyone shed some ligth on the one?
21:44.23XinhuanAnacleto: reinstall that addon
21:44.30Xinhuanupdate it
21:44.32AnacletoOk, going for it.
21:44.58nevcairielsounds like a merge error
21:45.00Grumaestil: how would you know if it was actually 'far away' ?
21:45.22aestila threshold.
21:45.24Xinhuanwell see, you're a human, humans can figure that out ;p
21:45.31Xinhuanand mentally cut corners and stuff
21:45.43aestilif the line from 1 node to another is x distance ignore that far away node.
21:45.50KemayoZhinjio: Running your sample with the typost on lines 15 and 25 corrected gets no errors in pure lua.
21:45.59Zhinjiohmm.
21:46.08Zhinjiomaybe I'll go back and check all my variables in the real code.
21:46.08Xinhuanrhi
21:46.13Xinhuanbah wrong window
21:46.14Kemayos/typost/typos (sigh)/
21:46.28CIA-1203pettigrow * r52605 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: frFR Update
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21:49.10Zhinjiohuh.
21:49.41Zhinjioit was working fine until it hit guild rank of 0. weird. nm... this  isn't a syntax problem. its a data problem. Thanks, Kemayo
21:50.00Hjaltecncfanatics: When I use my wand, the cooldown timer gets active on all my buttons. Anyway to set the cooldown to everything above 3s or something?
21:50.35cncfanaticsHjalte, ehm, not directly
21:50.40cncfanaticsyou could mess with the lua code
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21:51.32CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52606 10FlexBar2/Action/Action.lua: FlexBar2: Removed useless code
21:52.36CIA-1203kemayo * r52607 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Announce/Announce.lua:
21:52.36CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
21:52.36CIA-12-Announce: Fix "desc"/"description" mixup for quest completion.
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21:53.38Arcanefoamhowdy, ne can point me out on how to get OnUpdate events with out having a frame that points to my OnUpdate function?
21:54.32AnacletoXinhuan: Error still present. Could you please take a look at http://ace.pastey.net/75538 ?
21:55.13AnacletoXinhuan: Error started to show when I updated addons, as always, with the WAU.
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21:55.29Xinhuanwell it looks like a error in that xml file, probably the encoding type
21:55.34Xinhuanlet me see
21:55.45AnacletoOk.
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21:57.04sag_ich_nichtsomeone explain to me why i'm drunk like i had 10 beers, when i only had 2.
21:58.05sag_ich_nichtokay.
21:58.07sag_ich_nichtmy friend just told me
21:58.08CorganBECAUSE YOU ARE WEAK
21:58.10sag_ich_nichtto quote him:
21:58.15sag_ich_nicht"10 equals 2 in binary."
21:58.17Arcanefoammaybe u had beer with more alcohol
21:58.36todd`there is no 2 in binaryt
21:58.36sag_ich_nichtno, normally i drink guiness. the stuff i had today was weak.
21:58.37todd`:P
21:58.52sag_ich_nichttodd`: ur doin it rong
21:58.57sag_ich_nicht10 BIN=2 DEC
21:59.29todd`right.. so "2 equals 10 in binary"
21:59.30todd`:P
21:59.34sag_ich_nichtso
21:59.37sag_ich_nichti'm drunk
21:59.37sag_ich_nichtthus
22:00.02sag_ich_nichtyou can suck my balls, it was a minor grammatical misstake and everyone got what i meant anyway.
22:00.06sag_ich_nicht<3
22:01.08Zhinjiook, its working now. awesome stuff.
22:01.23Xinhuani don't think i can fix it Anacleto
22:01.26Zhinjiotime to go drink.
22:01.28Zhinjiopeace, y'all.
22:02.01AnacletoXinhuan: Fair enough. Hopefully the "who" who broke it, will fix in due time :) Thanks!
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22:04.36HjalteKemayo: When I complete a quest, but my team mate is still missing a few ingredients, is it possible you could let me see that or is there a way?
22:04.38Livid``Toadkiller still having problems with it
22:05.01ToadkillerOk question: is Buggrabber the thing I should be using?  Its 20 bugs / second throttle makes it report ZERO bugs sometimes which is less than usefull.
22:05.43ToadkillerLivid`` Ok, so for you the conjure category has firestones & soulstones? but no healthstones?
22:05.50Livid``nope only firestones
22:05.55Livid``no soulstones nor healthstones
22:05.56Livid``and
22:06.10Livid``in the catagory view on custom buttons i can't see any option for conjure healthstones
22:06.14Livid``i see healthstones
22:06.20Livid``but no conjure option
22:06.25Toadkillermmm
22:06.41Livid``and i just disabled everything except autobar
22:06.46Livid``to rule out anything interfering
22:07.05Livid``in the catagory view theres no option for soulstones either
22:07.47Livid``one thing i would mention and i dno if its a known issue
22:08.02Livid``when looking at the catagories fishing poles is outside the border of the frame
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22:11.25CIA-1203toadkiller * r52608 10AutoBar/AutoBarCategory.lua:
22:11.25CIA-12AutoBar:
22:11.25CIA-12-- Fix Create Healthstone & Create Soulstone categories
22:11.34Livid``o/
22:11.52Firelemmingcan somebody please take a look at this piece of code, it doesnt open the picture that i have specifed
22:11.58Firelemmingwoeps link http://wowace.pastey.net/75540
22:12.57Xinhuanchange
22:12.58Xinhuan"Interface\AddOns\!WhichIsMine\images\circle"
22:12.59Xinhuanto
22:13.05Xinhuan"Interface\\AddOns\\!WhichIsMine\\images\\circle"
22:13.15Xinhuanor
22:13.18Xinhuan[[Interface\AddOns\!WhichIsMine\images\circle]]
22:14.30EllipsisBlizz really needs to put some error messages in for that stuff
22:15.13cncfanaticsdid zips stop to generate for some reason ?
22:15.16Firelemmingah, ok lets try again xD, thanks for the fast reply
22:15.25cncfanaticsKaelten, it seems the zip generating script stopped running
22:15.47Ellipsisis there anything in the errors file?
22:16.14ToadkillerLivid``: Ok that should take care of the stones once it posts.  Did it fix your fishing pole thing as well?
22:16.30Livid``i didnt have a problem with the fishing pole ?
22:16.50BalstorYhea "Error Code -234 : Ellipsis reported to many errors"
22:17.03EllipsisI what now?
22:17.18EllipsisI can see that being an error thrown by FlexBar, but not the files script :P
22:17.20Kaeltencncfanatics: its running right now
22:17.55Ominous_Kaelten: hows ace3 coming along?
22:17.56cncfanatics2007-Oct-19 16:55:30 Kaelten, thats the latest zip date
22:18.04cncfanaticsI updated fb several times today, no zips -.-
22:18.16Kaeltenroot     25943  0.7  0.5  14440 11392 ?        D    18:00   0:07 python -OO /var/mkfiles/mkfiles.py
22:19.03cncfanaticsany errors related to FB ? Kaelten ?
22:19.10Kaeltenhrm it isn't using any cpu
22:19.19Kaeltenhrm it is running though
22:19.23Kaeltenhttp://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt
22:19.25Kaeltenjust slow
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22:19.38KaeltenI'm thrashing things pretty good at the moment
22:19.44cncfanaticshehe ok
22:19.54cncfanaticsI'll just be patient :) it hasn't generated any zips since 2h though
22:20.02Xinhuanany ETA on that new SVN addon system?
22:20.22KaeltenXinhuan:  I'd hate to make a promise I can't keep, but hopefully sometime in november/dec
22:20.33Xinhuancool
22:20.40KaeltenI'm testing splitting up the repository now which is part of why the server is under high load
22:20.40BejittEllipsis: errors for not escaping the escape character? :P
22:20.43Xinhuani'll think of it like "patch 2.3" ;p
22:21.07EllipsisBejitt: errors for textures not loading
22:21.15KaeltenXinhuan: :P
22:21.19Ellipsispeople have sooooo much trouble with it :P
22:21.24Bejittahh yea
22:21.32KaeltenCurse is allowing me to work on this stuff as part of my job, so I've been devoting more time towards it
22:21.50Kaeltenanyone looking at trying warhammer online?
22:22.14cncfanaticsI might, if it has a lua engine
22:22.32cncfanaticsKaelten, curse employs you or ?
22:22.45aestilgrum, that threshold for nodes that are too far away from other nodes idea won't work?
22:22.49Kaeltenya I've been working full time for them since october
22:22.52Kaeltenlast october
22:23.06cncfanaticslucky you
22:23.08cncfanaticsthats a nice job
22:23.09Kaeltencncfanatics: yes its sporting a full lua based addon system
22:23.26Kaeltensimilar to wows
22:23.29cncfanaticsKaelten, then I might look at it :o
22:23.32Kaelten:)
22:23.35Arcanefoamne can point me on how to get OnUpdate events if my addon doesn't use a frame?
22:23.53Xinhuannot possible ;p
22:24.01Xinhuanit must use a frame to get OnUpdates
22:24.12Kaeltenplanning on having a warhammer section once they get to beta, might try to port Ace3 over to it for people to use
22:24.36KemayoHjalte: Such a thing would only be possible if your teammate is also running something with Quixote
22:24.48cncfanaticsI wonder how hard it'd be to port flexbar, its fully modular so I could maybe recode only parts of it
22:24.54cncfanaticss/recode/have to recode/
22:24.55HjalteKemayo: He is. The problem is, that once my quest completes, I can't see how far he is.
22:25.00Kaelten:)
22:25.04Arcanefoamok, fair enough. NE ideas on how telling a Frame created with lua to get OnUpdates?
22:25.06Kaeltenit'd be interesting stuff
22:25.21Xinhuancncfanatics, very likely the button/spell/casting system is very different, and you won't be able to port it ;p
22:25.31cncfanaticsdepends
22:25.34cncfanaticsI could recode them one by one
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22:26.22Kaeltendamn thats running slow :s
22:26.36Kaeltenhttp://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt
22:26.42Kaeltenyou can see that it is making progress
22:27.29Arcanefoamnvm, got it :)
22:27.33cncfanatics:o, damn, it never progressed that fast
22:27.49cncfanaticsbtw Kaelten, we also miss stats for the last 3 months :)
22:27.59KemayoHjalte: Okay, I'll think about where to put that.
22:28.45Grumaestil: but 'threshold' in what way?
22:29.21GrumArcanefoam: make sure the frame is shown
22:29.25Grummiss O.o
22:29.28aestildistance threshold
22:29.52Grumso if 1 node is too far away from others you claim it 'not needed in the group' ?
22:30.03Kaeltencncfanatics: um the table is 30 million rows and running queries on it takes forever
22:30.04aestilif after the line is drawn, if the distance between 2 nodes is greater than x distance [adjusted by user] it throws out the far away node?
22:30.06ArcanefoamGrum: Just understood how Quartz does, going to take it up from there
22:30.06Kaeltenand thats < 1 months data
22:30.17cncfanaticsKaelten :o, sounds fun
22:30.20aestiland redraws it?
22:30.32cncfanaticsso ur gonna stop keeping stats I guess ? or rework them so they're added to text files
22:30.53Grumaestil: it has to be in the optimizing code
22:30.58Grumbut it will be really 'guessy'
22:31.07Grumyou might loose access to 'islands' of nodes because of it
22:31.16KaeltenIits going to... reworked
22:31.24Kaeltensomehow
22:31.29BejittKaelten: have you noticed this error: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Special:Wantedpages
22:31.31aestilag
22:31.32aestilah
22:31.33Firelemmingyou can specify a version number within the toc file, is there a way to retrieve that through a function?
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22:31.42Kaeltenwhat error?
22:31.51KaeltenFirelemming: yes
22:32.06Grumaestil: what i was actually planning is making the 'nodes' visible and after that being able to move and delete them if you wanted to
22:32.07Bejitt"Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 131071 bytes)"
22:32.23Bejitt(aka too many 'wanted' pages?)
22:32.40Grumworks here
22:32.45Ominous_Bejitt: works here,
22:32.45Trell_erm, in every version of Autobar since the 'new' one - on my shaman it refuses to remember my totem button settings (ie, none of them showing)
22:32.54CIA-1203funkydude * r52609 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints.lua:
22:32.54CIA-12BasicComboPoints:
22:32.54CIA-12- Don't load if we are not a rogue
22:32.54CIA-12- Now sets onto the right of aguf, X-Perl, Perl, PitBull
22:32.54CIA-12- Grows in size the more points you have
22:32.54Trell_between login/out
22:32.55CIA-12- Changes colour according to points
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22:33.01Bejittthat's odd
22:33.08Ominous_Kaelten: oh click on 500 per page
22:33.20Bejittahh yea, i have default at 500 per page
22:33.29Trell_actually, it's only the fire and air totem buttons
22:34.08Kaeltenhrm
22:34.16Kaeltensounds like php is running out of memory
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22:35.54aestilgrum, that sounds cool, is it possible that there could be a 'show/hide' option in fubar for routes?
22:36.00GnarfozKaelten: can you hear it screaming? ;P
22:36.12Gnarfozoh
22:36.13Gnarfozbleh
22:36.42Gnarfozshould probably read up and follow the conversation first, some times ;)
22:37.33Kaeltenna what fun would that be
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22:40.07Traeany of you guys Dual box?  with 2 toons at once?  And, do you find it's easier to level say two toons at the same time, or... do you just have one toon power level the other?
22:41.07phybergnomes killed us in BT.  this is tragic.
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22:42.46Grumaestil: show hide in fubar?
22:42.57Grumyou gotto be kidding me O.o
22:44.30aestilgrum, for the different paths?
22:44.47aestilan options to turn them on and off if i don't want to see them? or want to farm on a different route?
22:44.57aestilwhy is there no swing timer for the MH when DW?
22:45.01aestilin quartz
22:46.30Arcanefoamwowwiki says "As of patch 2.1.0, transparency propagates down through all child objects.", ne reason this doesnt work for me?
22:46.48Arcanefoami change my parent's alpha and childs dont follow
22:49.18NightHawkAtWorkaestil: I think it might be because there's no particularly good way to know which white attack is MH vs OH via the combat log, so nymbia just disabled swing timers for DW.
22:49.29aestili see.
22:49.37aestiltheorycrafting for fury DW warrior real quick
22:49.44aestilslam resets both swing timers? confirm?
22:49.58CIA-1203yhwh * r52610 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-zhCN.lua:
22:49.58CIA-12Skillet:
22:49.58CIA-12--Update locale zhCN
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22:50.16sag_ich_nicht[00:12] * Ellipsis hugs sag_ich_nicht <--hi Ellipsis.
22:50.27sag_ich_nichtstop abusing my weakness :(
22:51.00sag_ich_nichtwhat the hell
22:51.04sag_ich_nichtfour leaves is down
22:51.05sag_ich_nicht-.-
22:51.07aestilellipsis, i'm looking for a mod that will allow me to tab complete names in my chat pane
22:51.15cncfanaticsprat
22:52.04Thraeaestil: Teknicolor + Teknicolor_tab works well for me.
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22:53.12IndustrialI have a problem with Cartographer (Ace2 version). It doesn't save my settings or doesn't load them.
22:53.44TularIs there another version other than Ace2?
22:53.53Industrialyes, the Rock version
22:54.21Tularthats ACE3?
22:54.22Industrialcheck out http://files.wowace.com/Cartographer1/Cartographer1-r52399.4.zip
22:54.24sag_ich_nichtthe ace2 version is made of ace
22:54.26IndustrialTular: no!@
22:54.28sag_ich_nichterm
22:54.32sag_ich_nichtis made of fail
22:54.33sag_ich_nichtfixed.
22:54.53Industrialsag_ich_nicht: I disagree. Anyway;
22:55.15Industrial## Author: ckknight originally
22:55.19Industrialthats really helpful
22:55.21Industrialwhoever made it
22:55.21Industrial:|
22:55.39baer_hmmm...
22:55.49baer_does warcraftmovies.com not work anymore?
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22:58.17qwestobaer_, the site's loading for me at least
22:58.18IndustrialTular: and btw I suggest you read the forums.
22:59.02Tularwhats the short version, whats Rock?
22:59.40IndustrialTular: ckknight mace rock and has baesd all his addons on it. its not Ace3 (see what I did there).
22:59.42Bejittwhen did the move to Lib<LibName> start?
22:59.52Industrialsomeone else didnt like that and made Cartographer1 wich makes carto use Ace2 again
22:59.57qwestoTular, it's a framework. Ace2 is also a framework.
22:59.57IndustrialBejitt: then.
23:00.24Industrialreally, read the forums. Theres separate sections for it.
23:01.27Kaeltenoh Ominous I thinky ou asked me how Ace3 is going?
23:01.30TularIll just keep running the version on WAU, lol
23:01.37TularI like chknights stuff
23:01.45baer_qwesto: i get a timeout. oO
23:02.55Ominous_Kaelten: yea
23:03.20KaeltenOminous: very well, every module except config and I think acetab is fairly well done.
23:04.12Ominous_Kaelten: nice, any idea of a timeframe until beta?
23:04.31CIA-1203funkydude * r52611 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints.lua:
23:04.31CIA-12BasicComboPoints:
23:04.31CIA-12- remove shadow
23:04.31CIA-12- font tweak
23:04.42Kaeltenwe're about to close up the alpha phase
23:04.52Ominous_kk
23:05.09Kaeltenag already has a unit frame branch in Ace
23:05.10Kaelten3
23:05.21Industrialcool
23:05.32ckknightBejitt: I started that
23:05.35CIA-1203prudence * r52612 10Assessment/Modules/Activity.lua:
23:05.35CIA-12Assessment:
23:05.35CIA-12- Update french translation
23:06.06Ellipsiswooooooh
23:06.17Bejittckknight: awesome
23:06.20Ellipsis<3 bukkit jokes
23:06.45ckknight~rock
23:06.46purli guess rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out
23:06.48ckknightTular: ^--
23:07.46Bejittso, if all libraries move to that.. the Libraries category on the wiki will have a very long 'L' section heh
23:08.08Industrial!c eu grim batol rany
23:08.11ThraeBotIndustrial: Rany, Level 54 Night Elf Rogue (3/0/42). 1726 HP; 1.80% melee crit; 11.51% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 583 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytq7lt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p2uqs ][ Updated: Fri Oct 19 19:11:09 2007 EST ]]
23:08.13Elkano_ckknight, it was mean to overwrite that one I think :/
23:08.14Industrialemergency info
23:08.15Elkano_~paper
23:08.16purlrock, you win.
23:08.16Industrialoh 54
23:08.25ckknight~rpsrock
23:08.29ckknight~rockrps
23:08.29purlrock, play again.
23:08.37ckknightyea, its' rockrps
23:08.41ckknightit's*
23:08.51ToadkillerTrell_: There is an issue with rows * columns cutting off buttons for a bar.   Iam working on fixing that right now which should fix your problem.  Meanwhile, if you set rows to 2  &columns to 24 or some combo thats bigger than probably 30 or however many buttons there are (enabled & disabled) does it work?
23:09.01Elkano_ok, at least it's still there ^^
23:09.03ckknightBejitt: yea, but it's simpler overall
23:09.44ToadkillerCyrez: sup?
23:10.55CyrezToadkiller cyCircled's AutoBar plugin isn't working. It flickers when I try to set the style but nothing happens. ><
23:12.00CyrezUsing the latest of both from SVN, even killed my SV's, same result.
23:17.24Bejittckknight: who should i throw some wiki organization ideas to?
23:17.37ckknightI honestly don't know
23:17.37Bejitt(i'm oddly compelled to think about the wiki too much)
23:17.49Bejittheh
23:18.10sag_ich_nichtnight guys.
23:18.50CIA-1203toadkiller * r52613 10AutoBar/AutoBarCategory.lua:
23:18.50CIA-12AutoBar:
23:18.50CIA-12-- Ritual of Souls added to Conjure Button
23:19.42sag_ich_nicht:( stop it Ellipsis it just makes me want a hug IRL :/
23:19.47sag_ich_nichtanyway night.
23:19.49Bejittideas such as.. what about making the Libraries category just for the library overviews, such as AddonXX, with the AddonXX-1.0 and AddonXX-2.0, etc only in the API DOC category
23:20.04Bejitter not API DOC
23:20.18BejittAPI Documentation
23:22.14Bejittas it stands, the libraries are split across the two anyways
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23:31.12ToadkillerCyrez: Ok lemme look at that.
23:31.25CyrezTY ^^
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23:41.23Bejittckknight: what's the difference between dogtag-1.0 and 2.0?
23:41.36ckknight2.0's better, use it
23:41.39ckknightit has more stuff
23:41.41ckknightmore optimizations
23:41.51ckknightdoesn't require Ace2
23:42.09Bejittahh kk
23:42.12Bejittcouldnt find anything on it
23:45.24Livid``Toadkiller i got the 52608 and thats fixed the healthstone and soulstone thing, tyvm matey
23:56.21aestilis anyone using avion?  I can't get the cooldown module to work.
23:56.55Trell_is there an ace addon that auto casts water/food conjuring and hands it out?
23:57.04Trell_i've seen a few guildies with one, but I don't think it's ace2 :P
23:57.13Xelopherisyou can't auto-cast
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23:57.20Xelopheristhe functionality to do so doesn't exist
23:57.36Trell_mmm but the auto trade one does?
23:58.03Gnarfozthe auto "put in trade window" part might
23:58.18GnarfozI don't think you can toggle the "ok I want to trade this" state
23:58.19morttrade dispenser
23:58.23Trell_ah thanks
23:58.37mortit's limited but better than nothing
23:59.03Arrowmastermost the mages in my guild use a mod to automaticly put 2 stacks of water and 1 stack of food in trade i think for mana users

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