IRC log for #wowace on 20071016

00:00.08Funkeh`Roartindon, I'll give you a hint, it had something to do with hiding frames when solo!
00:00.09RoartindonI'll add something in
00:00.15Funkeh`Thank you :)
00:00.16RoartindonFunkeh`: lol, yeah
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00:02.48CIA-1203roartindon * r52194 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: Assessment: Another change to how reporting is done when titles are disabled
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00:04.56dodgaDezzimal: Try #show Sacred Candle as first line in the macro
00:05.19Dezzimalwell
00:05.34DezzimalI guess that works, it'll change the icon to a sacred candle but at least the count will be there  maybe?
00:06.17dodgaI think so
00:06.31Dezzimal:(
00:06.37dodgaActually, I think it'll only change the icon, if you gave it the question mark icon
00:06.43dodgaIf you chose another icon that'll stay
00:06.46dodgaBut: untested :D
00:06.52DezzimalI gave it the question mark
00:07.43Dezzimalyeah the macro text is still there
00:08.04Dezzimalis there a way to get rid of that?
00:08.17Dezzimalope nvm lol
00:08.21DezzimalI named my macro " "
00:08.24dodga:D
00:10.00Dezzimalwoot
00:12.47kebinusan~weighted companion cube
00:12.48purl[weighted companion cube] your friend, though you shouldn't listen to his advice, HE IS YOUR FRIEND - do not question the truth!
00:18.48Kemayo~cake
00:18.49purlthe cake is a lie!
00:19.45CIA-1203roartindon * r52195 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Extras/SoloHide.lua): Assessment: Added SoloHide option
00:19.46RoartindonFunkeh`: ^^^
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00:21.32AntiarcI wish Portal were longer
00:21.35CIA-1203sayclub * r52196 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua:
00:21.35CIA-12.Hyjal :
00:21.35CIA-12- Updated localization koKR
00:21.36AntiarcIt was really really fun
00:22.13KemayoI need to get it...
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00:24.03Funkeh`Roartindon, <3
00:24.52Funkeh`Roartindon, Someone made a suggestion of distinguishing crit/crushing in the death log in a post, would be nice if you have some spare time.
00:25.03RoartindonFunkeh`: Yeah, I saw that, I'll add that too
00:25.08Funkeh`sweet
00:25.34RoartindonI've had it at the back of my mind for a while to do; just haven't got around to it
00:26.45Funkeh`wtb wowwiki doc on UNIT_COMBO_POINTS
00:27.12Funkeh`oh nvm its PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS
00:27.19Funkeh`wonder what wtf the former is for
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00:30.50RoartindonFunkeh`: I think I'll add a "*" after the number if it's a crit or crushing blow.. that should be good I'm guessing
00:31.06Funkeh`Yeah that sounds good
00:31.14Funkeh`What about printing?
00:31.34RoartindonIt'll have the star there too
00:31.47RoartindonOr a tag can be used to change it however
00:33.17CIA-1203cronan * r52197 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: BigWigs: Update koKR
00:33.27Funkeh`I was thinking a small brackets next to the number for pirnting 104(crit) 104(crush)
00:34.33CIA-1203ackis * r52198 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
00:34.34CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
00:34.34CIA-12- Minor bugfix
00:34.49CIA-1203wt * r52199 10GridStatusIncomingHeals/GridStatusIncomingHeals.lua:
00:34.49CIA-12GridStatusIncomingHeals:
00:34.49CIA-12- Fix errors in BGs due to names being in format "Name-Realm" (Drycoded)
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00:36.42Roartindontesting the death event log is fun...... run up to something, wait for it to kill you, repeat..... :)
00:37.17CIA-1203nogudnik * r52200 10Skillet/ (ThirdPartyHooks.lua UI/MainFrame.lua description.txt):
00:37.17CIA-12Skillet:
00:37.17CIA-12- minor fix when passing the name of the current trade to
00:37.17CIA-12<PROTECTED>
00:37.42KarlThePaganhas anyone written a Grid voice plugin?
00:39.16Funkeh`Roartindon, hehe :P
00:39.28RoartindonKarlThePagan: Doesn't grid come with it now?
00:39.54CIA-1203roartindon * r52201 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: Assessment: The death event log now puts a "*" suffix if hits were critical or crushing
00:40.06KarlThePaganRoartindon, ! you are correct sir!
00:40.12KarlThePaganI somehow overlooked it
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00:47.39KarlThePaganRoartindon, yea works nicely... could probably stand to change the defaults
00:48.15RoartindonKarlThePagan: Suggest to the grid people :)
00:48.20KarlThePaganyup
00:48.23KarlThePaganI should also probably take a look at voicefu and see if I can hack in blizz chat
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01:01.34CIA-1203pettigrow * r52202 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman: frFR fix
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01:03.18sylvanaargod the ptr is gay
01:04.19CIA-1203stan * r52203 10cyCircled_VolM/ (11 files in 2 dirs): cyCircled_VolM: initial commit
01:05.37Arrowmasteris there a combatlog message when you fail to kill an elemental on vashj and she gets buffed?
01:06.22Poul|RaiderWas there an addon that made custom made ui for nameplate units?
01:06.29StanzillaAloft
01:06.58Poul|Raideris it units like player, target, etc?
01:07.12Stanzillayup
01:07.17Poul|Raidercrazy stuff
01:07.18sylvanaarno
01:07.23Poul|Raider:(
01:08.18sylvanaarits things that have nameplates - no unit required
01:08.18smoke__yeah, it shows above their head
01:08.18smoke__when u enable it
01:08.19Poul|Raider.........
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01:08.30Poul|Raiderwe all know what nameplates are, dont we.
01:08.37smoke__um...
01:08.38smoke__yes
01:08.39smoke__do you?
01:08.40Poul|Raider:D
01:08.43Poul|Raidergood
01:08.54RoartindonPoul|Raider: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5618.0
01:08.56smoke__when you press "V" with default key bindings
01:09.00Poul|Raideryes
01:09.08smoke__yes
01:09.08smoke__Aloft
01:09.09smoke__go download it
01:09.12smoke__that is what you are looking for.
01:09.16RoartindonPoul|Raider: And you'll never get a player nameplate
01:09.20Poul|Raiderbut did you see what i asked for smoke__?
01:09.23Roartindononly everyone else's.. your own never shows with "V"
01:09.34smoke__..
01:09.36smoke__yes i saw it
01:09.41smoke__<Poul|Raider> Was there an addon that made custom made ui for nameplate units?
01:09.44smoke__what am i missing there..
01:09.54RoartindonPoul|Raider: He replied.. the addon is called "Aloft"
01:09.55Poul|Raiderye, then why do you explain what nameplates is
01:10.11RoartindonBecause nameplates have nothing to do with "player", "target
01:10.17Roartindonit's just anyone that's within a certain range
01:10.21sylvanaarunit is a technical term
01:10.41smoke__heh
01:10.49Poul|Raiderye. and thats why i asked if it was a unit like player, target, raid1-40 that you could loop over to find info
01:11.06smoke__ok whatever u said last does not make sense..
01:11.07RoartindonPoul|Raider: Ah okay, your question wasn't taken in that context.
01:11.09RoartindonAnd no, it's not
01:11.16Poul|Raideroki
01:11.18RoartindonYou have no unitids for nameplates
01:11.22Poul|Raiderk
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01:11.45sylvanaarthats what I said i thought
01:11.50Poul|Raider"3. Spell casting timer - Displays the remaining casting time"
01:12.16Poul|Raiderdoes it get that info from looping over raid1-40 or can it get the info from API by just being in range of it?
01:12.20RoartindonNope
01:12.30RoartindonIt takes it from intercepting the blizzard nameplate casting bars
01:13.04Poul|Raiderhmm, havent payed attention to it tbh, but dont it only show cast bar on the nameplates that you have target on?
01:13.10RoartindonIf you enable nameplate casting bars, blizzard shows what you're casting. Aloft just takes the values blizzard is putting in thee to infer the actual time left
01:13.14Poul|Raiderstandart nameplates that is
01:13.15RoartindonPoul|Raider: Yes
01:13.24RoartindonPoul|Raider: And that's the only nameplate Aloft will show spell casting timers for
01:13.29Poul|Raiderahh
01:13.30Poul|Raideroki
01:14.14Poul|RaiderSo basicly i wont be able to pull more info out of the nameplate then what blizzards already showing?
01:14.30CIA-1203nogudnik * r52204 10Skillet/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
01:14.30CIA-12Skillet:
01:14.30CIA-12- SKL-2: sort methods are now saved per-tradeskill/per-character.
01:14.35RoartindonPoul|Raider: Not unless you make some inference as to the unitid (which Aloft tries to do.)
01:14.53Roartindonor cache data that may be appropriate
01:15.05Poul|Raiderye but no api for pulling the data
01:15.20RoartindonPoul|Raider: Nope
01:15.41RoartindonPoul|Raider: That's the reason for why there were no nameplate modification addons for WoW for such a long time
01:15.48RoartindonPoul|Raider: There's no API for it, it's kind of hacked
01:16.14Poul|Raiderbut it would then be posible to make a frame listing all inrange of nameplate mobs with name and hp to faster targetting instead of having them right over the head of a mob
01:16.57RoartindonNope, protected frames stop you from making dynamically positioned frames during combat
01:17.09Poul|Raiderahh right
01:17.19Poul|Raiderforgot about that for a se
01:17.20Poul|Raiderc
01:17.24RoartindonPre 2.0 it could have been done, post 2.0, it's distinctly disallowed
01:17.28Poul|Raiderye ye
01:17.31rob`the bastards.
01:17.50Poul|Raiderwell is aloft unitframes for nameplayes supporting the click and target then?
01:17.53ZealotOnAStickvhaarr or Funkeh` or [Ammo]: ace.pastey.net/75352
01:17.55rob`It's hard to imagine life with single-button decursive, now.
01:18.33RoartindonPoul|Raider: It does, but only because it's fashioned on top of the inbuilt nameplates. Certain things it only touches cosmetically, which means the frames aren't tainted
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01:18.55rob`oh, hah, funny story.  I accidentally AOE tanked the first pull in serpentshrine yesterday. >_>
01:18.59rob`slow offtanks ftl.
01:19.07Poul|Raiderk, think i am just gonna stay out of it then, not like i will get any good made of it .D
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01:19.31RoartindonPoul|Raider: The actual details of working with nameplates is a little different from much of the API. Do something wrong, and WoW will likely crash
01:20.01Poul|Raider:) a crash makes you stronger!
01:20.26aestilgetting no errors, but blizzard player unit frame visible.  any reason why?
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01:21.34aestiltonight we go round 2 vs KT.  last night we got better at P2 and can kill all but the axe before P3.
01:21.40Mecdemortis there a way to get hex and rgb class colors?
01:21.46aestiland we can kill sanguine and thaladred in P3 before P4.
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01:22.48Roartindonaestil: Keep going.. we had one botched up attempt where some aoe died in p2
01:22.58Roartindonand we only killed Capernian just before p5
01:23.19RoartindonBut generally, we get all the advisors down before first pyro
01:24.50aestilRoartindon: we don't have AoE.
01:25.01Roartindonaestil: Not even one lock/mage?
01:26.00aestil4 total.
01:26.07aestilbut we don't have them AoE
01:26.15aestilFF burn of everythign we can.
01:26.22aestilleaving only axe for P2.
01:26.27aestilP3,
01:26.38RoartindonWe kill all of the weapons and have about 10 sec before p3 starts using aoe approach
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01:26.48aestilwith how many mages/locks?
01:26.51[gk]Hotphoenixwe've done it using 3 locks seeding and a mage flamestriking before with ample time
01:26.53Roartindon5-6
01:27.03aestilwe have 2 locks, 2 mages.
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01:27.10RoartindonBut bloodlusted locks get a huge aoe boost
01:27.30aestilwe don't have the most skilled AoE players.
01:27.40aestilour locks are really strong at CC.
01:27.43Roartindonour strat is weird/different
01:27.56aestilfor some reason, on encounters like morrogrim and hydross, you'd think they would do better than they actually do.
01:27.56RoartindonWe get mages to focus fire the bow down to 80%, then go aoe crazy
01:28.12aestiland anyways, the axe isn't causing us to fail at KT
01:28.13aestil:D
01:28.19Roartindon(hunters are on the bow first too, so they can pick it up and start getting the +melee buff)
01:28.37ZealotOnAStickare you bloodlusting your AE?
01:28.44RoartindonZealotOnAStick: We don't
01:28.51RoartindonMages get little benefit from it
01:28.56Roartindonand our locks are generally spread out
01:29.03Roartindonif we're short aoeers, we gather the locks into one group for bloodlust
01:29.17aestilwe have all ranged burn bow, then finsih off dagger, then all FF staff, then all FF mace, then we split and have ranged + 1 melee on shield, and the rest of the ranged on Sword.
01:29.20aestilp3 pops.
01:29.25RoartindonSince we don't have dps problems in p2, we save bloodlust for p3 :)
01:29.57aestilanyways, no one noticed any problems with seeing the blizzard basic Player UF?
01:30.01RoartindonWe've had times where all the advisors drop before p4 starts
01:30.20aestilwe don't have anywhere near that level of dps.
01:30.29aestilwe've also only killed Vashj 4 times.
01:30.44RoartindonWell, without aoe, we wouldn't have anywhere close to that dps either
01:30.54Roartindonaoe really makes good use of mage/lock mana/damage output
01:30.57aestilyou can't AoE the generals
01:31.06RoartindonWe aoe in p2
01:31.18aestilhaving all 4 generals down in P3 is waaaay beyond our dps.
01:31.21Roartindonwhich gives us the entire time of p3 to focus on the advisors
01:31.32aestileven without the axe.
01:31.39aestilwe couldn't kill all 4 generals
01:31.46RoartindonAre you using all the appropriate buffs?
01:31.58aestilcap and telonicus are at like... half health at best in p3 when P4 pops.
01:32.02aestilyou mean weapon buffs?
01:32.06Roartindonyeah
01:32.17aestilfor telonicus/sanguine/thaladred, yes
01:32.17RoartindonThe weapon buffs are huge
01:32.23aestilcan't do anything about cap though.
01:33.02RoartindonHow many healers are you taking to KT?
01:33.10Roartindonand tanks?
01:33.15Poul|RaiderAnyone aware if anyone taken 5th and 6th boss in ZA on the timed limit?
01:34.21RoartindonWe found our 'optimum' healer count was 7. More than that, and we were sacrificing dps. We use 3 prot tanks, 1 fury warrior, 1 bear druid. The rest are dps
01:34.51aestilwe have 6 healerrs for KT
01:36.02Aens|Superiority3 prot tanks is a bit much.
01:36.23RoartindonAens|Superiority: Probably, but they came from alar, and we don't ask them to respec mid raid
01:36.34Aens|Superioritymace and shield can be tanked by the same person easily. Only problem might be threat, but as a bear tank, I can hold aggro on both through AE
01:36.46Aens|Superiorityfair enough
01:37.00RoartindonI guess al'ar doesn't even need 3 prot tanks either...
01:37.10RoartindonOh well, it's what we ended up with :)
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01:41.17nogudnikAnyone have any recommendations on where to read up on the changes in the 2.3 patch?
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01:42.05RickThunderhey guys
01:42.07NightHawkTheSanenogudnik: perhapsthe 2.3 patch notes?
01:42.32RickThunderanyone know of an addon that shows who got you in target?
01:42.48nogudnikGot those bookmarked already :-), was wondering if anyone knew anything else/better
01:43.05Poul|Raideragil totem = how much agil?
01:43.16NightHawkTheSanePoul|Raider: check wowhead
01:43.21NightHawkTheSanenogudnik: try mmo-champion.com?
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01:43.35RickThunder88 agi skilled i think
01:43.36IndustrialSane NightHawkTheSane is Sane.
01:44.56RickThunderid like to see some sort of icon or a border on people who got me in target - even if they arent in my group
01:45.05RickThunderanyone know an addon that does that?
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01:45.42MegalonRickThunder: only possible if you mouseover them
01:45.59RickThunderthat would do it Megalon
01:46.28RickThunderwhats it called?
01:46.34Megalonmost tooltip addon support that
01:46.43Megalonto show in the tooltip what that person is targetting
01:46.46CIA-1203andryk * r52206 10FuBar_AbramsFu/libs/: FuBar_AbramsFu: Fixed the adding of StatLogic.
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01:47.05RickThunderok can you give me a name? :)
01:47.57nogudnikNightHawkTheSane: cheers! thanks
01:48.17RickThunderfiles.wowace.com really need a search field btw ;)
01:48.25RickThunderneeds even
01:48.30Megaloncowtip
01:48.31`Zypher@ anyone who cares, why not make the lurker below timers trigger on strange pool, instead of when he actually spawns
01:48.38Megalonfor example
01:48.43RickThunderthanks
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01:48.54sylvanaarphish
01:49.00RickThunderyup i also got that
01:49.22Paeneeasy way to get a spellID for a spell is?
01:49.23Megaloni never get beta invites *cry*
01:49.42sylvanaarphish
01:52.15Arrowmaster`Zypher: that would require checking the tooltip instead of checking UnitName("target") on mouseover
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02:05.45CIA-1203funkydude * r52207 10BasicComboPoints/ (. BasicComboPoints.lua BasicComboPoints.toc):
02:05.45CIA-12.BasicComboPoints:
02:05.45CIA-12- initial import
02:05.45CIA-12- Numerical display of current combo points
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02:13.31Funkeh`http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5854/bcpax6.jpg hmm need to think of a decent location sometime
02:15.45fitz__stupid itunes not having the album artwork for my cd
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02:16.56CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
02:16.56CIA-12- ["Consumable.Buff Type.Both"] updated to include Blade's Edge flasks (because Blizzard is inconsistent)
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02:30.59CIA-1203sylvanaar * r52209 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua: Prat: Disabled features which clearly aren't functioning in the editbox module.
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02:31.06CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
02:31.06CIA-12- ["Consumable.Buff Type"] - one more tweak
02:31.16JCinDEso quiet in here
02:32.58Wobwork~seen ellipses
02:33.01purlWobwork: i haven't seen 'ellipses'
02:33.16Wobwork~seen ellipsis
02:33.17purlellipsis is currently on #wowace (1d 20m 36s). Has said a total of 242 messages. Is idling for 6h 40m 18s, last said: '~ugt'.
02:33.22WobworkThat's why =)
02:34.28JCinDElol
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02:43.08Antiarchttp://files.filefront.com/Guild+of+Guilds+vs+Kaelthas/;8807799;/fileinfo.html
02:43.10AntiarcWooo.
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02:47.54CIA-1203evenue * r52211 10TradeskillInfo/ (. TradeskillInfo.toc embeds.xml):
02:47.54CIA-12TradeskillInfo:
02:47.54CIA-12-hopefully fixed an error for those using embedded libraries
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02:49.44durcynoh fuckyes, illidan down
02:49.54AntiarcWooot!
02:51.59Dezzimalanyone here know recount fairly well? I'm trying to see damage to target, like SWS
02:52.08Dezzimal3 separate mobs, essence of souls event in BT
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03:06.21Poul|Raider!c kalman eu
03:07.18KillmoreAntiarc: good movie but music + music sound + vent = too much in my head :\
03:07.26AntiarcHehe, yeah, it's muddy
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03:07.35AntiarcIt was a lot more clear when I recorded it
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03:08.54ComxxHey Antiarc was that your toon?
03:08.58AntiarcYeah
03:09.48Comxxdo you have a link of all the mods that your using?
03:10.32Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/list.txt
03:10.51Comxxsweet i like your setup
03:11.14Funkeh`Whats the API to anchor a frame to another so it only show when the frame its anchored to is showing
03:11.42Ellipsis:SetParent()
03:12.23Diao!ap 2000
03:12.24ThraeBotDiao: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 711, 3v3: 812, 5v5: 1015
03:12.37Diao!ap 1902
03:12.37ThraeBotDiao: Arena points from a rating of 1902 is, 2v2: 627, 3v3: 717, 5v5: 896
03:12.42Diaois that calculator off o_O
03:12.53Funkeh`Ellipsis, <3
03:12.56hyperChipmunkneat
03:13.00hyperChipmunk!ap 1392
03:13.00ThraeBothyperChipmunk: Arena points from a rating of 1392 is, 2v2: 234, 3v3: 267, 5v5: 334
03:13.06Diaoi think he's using the old formula
03:13.15Diaocause 1902 should give 807 according to my ingame calculator
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03:13.47hyperChipmunkhehoho i'm gonna get a new chestpiece tomorrow!
03:14.13CIA-1203funkydude * r52212 10BasicComboPoints/ (. BasicComboPoints.lua): BasicComboPoints: Anchor to the right of the default target frame
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03:17.06Funkeh`nymbia sux
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03:18.02GnarfozI heard
03:19.52Paeneis there any way to compare two strings and only return true if they are identical?
03:20.16Paenestring.find returns true if the search string is a substring of the string being searched :-/
03:22.28JoshBorkerad
03:22.36JoshBorkePaene: str1 == str2
03:22.45JoshBorkePaene: if 2 strings are identical then they are the same object
03:23.14Paenehm...could have sworn I got errors before when trying that...lemme try again
03:24.29Paeneworked
03:24.37Paenethanks Josh
03:27.58Arrowmasterwoot vashj to 20%
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03:30.05KillmoreAntiarc: grats for the kill and welcome in MH :P
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03:30.50Megalonand loottemple :P
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03:32.22Killmoreyep, easy loot inc !
03:34.29nymbiaFunkeh`: no u
03:34.46Funkeh`nymbia, I fell asleep you took so long
03:34.50nymbia<3
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03:37.53CIA-1203funkydude * r52213 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints.toc: BasicComboPoints: add wiki page URL
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03:39.17theoddone33are the contracts referred to in the addon preferences thing just another name for assets?
03:41.13theoddone33mostly I was wondering if there's a way to debug mods though
03:41.24theoddone33like if I"m getting frequent disconnects out of the blue, to see if it was a particular mod at fault
03:41.48theoddone33pretty sure the answer is "nope, there's not a way to tell"
03:44.41Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_101507_202231.jpg <-- I am in love with Unholy Frenzy
03:45.07Funkeh`Rival?
03:45.11AntiarcArena title
03:45.16AntiarcBut check those mainhand/offhand speeds
03:45.39Funkeh`:)
03:46.20Comxxnice
03:46.41Megalonever seen a warrior with Soul Cleaver @ speed 0.2? ;D
03:46.46NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: jesus. :P
03:47.00Antiarc2700 DPS sustained.
03:47.22Arrowmasterfuckity fuck fuck fuck
03:47.53Arrowmaster3rd time vashj into phase3 and had some dps die, enraged at like 20%
03:48.56Arrowmastergreen shit everywhere.... 13%
03:50.43theoddone33huh
03:50.50theoddone33now I want unholy frenzy
03:51.01theoddone33sounds like aggro would happen though
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04:05.24kebinusanyeah we just wiped at 2% on vashj, because our shaman decide not to raid and that fight is stupid w/o grounding totem
04:06.03kebinusanbut raid is over and its time for portals
04:07.05Killmoreomg my guild just killed RoS tonight and I wasnt there :(
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04:12.58aestil85% in P4 second time we got there.
04:13.51yssarilanyone here have experiance writing libraries?
04:15.53Paenemy guild just killed Void Reaver and Mag these past 2 weeks
04:16.02Paenenot quite as large of an accomplishment
04:16.09Paenebut we've only been together 5 weeks
04:16.37Paeneand we're only raiding 3 nights a week
04:17.50Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_101507_205246.jpg
04:18.38DezzimalAntiarc: you should totally give me ftp space :/
04:18.55xylchI would be dead in 2 seconds
04:18.57AntiarcHeh, this is a box sitting under my desk, 5 feet away
04:19.45Arrowmasterweve been raiding 3 nights a week for i think 2 months, only kael and vashj left
04:19.58Arrowmasteroh wait month and a half
04:21.44WobworkAntiarc: omg hastehax
04:22.08Gngskhttp://ctscreens.net/9190
04:22.14Funkeh`So my uncle had a heart attack :x
04:22.43Funkeh`Not exactly the kind of phone call you like to hear
04:23.31ArrowmasterFunkeh`: vashj phase2 timers seem just slightly too long by like a second or three
04:24.18Funkeh`okay
04:24.30Funkeh`well moff to see him I'll look into it another time
04:24.30Arrowmasteri had a tainted elemental soon message pop up after the elemental had already spawned but the timer bar was also still up oddly when the message was
04:24.32Funkeh`later
04:24.51Arrowmasterunderstandable
04:24.59mykxdo you have down syndrome ? he just told you his uncle had a heart attack
04:25.34GngskI have down syndrome
04:25.35Gngskhow insulting
04:27.41yssarilGngsk: what addon is that to show the duribility left on the items on the character sheet?
04:28.44Comxxhey Antiarc did you ever add sounds for gryphons in winded?
04:28.44Megalonyssaril: i think it's Fizzle
04:29.35Megalonit also colors the border corresponding to the itemquality
04:30.29yssarilthanks Megalon
04:30.31aestilPaene: we raid 3 nights a week, 3.5 hours a night
04:30.36Arrowmasterfucking missed a core on vashj i think because somebodys inventory was full
04:31.07aestilArrowmaster: they could still have killed the core.
04:31.10aestiljust not have looted/thrown
04:31.17aestilit shouldn't have thrown it off too much unless it was the 4th
04:31.40aestili swear, without quartz, i woudl be a shit raider.
04:31.52Arrowmasterit got thrown to somebody whos inventory was full i think
04:32.00aestilah.
04:32.04Arrowmasterand on vashj you cant miss a core or its a wipe
04:32.12aestilwe go over the 'make sure you ahve room in your inventory before the pull.
04:32.35Gngskyssaril, fizzle
04:32.43Arrowmaster2 striders and 2 naga up just now when we went into phase3
04:33.55aestilarrowmaster, 0 striders and 2 naga when you go into P3.
04:34.14aestilalso, we miss a core from time to time, and kill vashj.
04:34.45Arrowmasterwe've been getting 1 strider (which were currently attacking) and 2 naga going into p3
04:35.00Arrowmasterbut tonights the first time we've seen phase3
04:35.22Paeneaestil: we raid 3 nights, 4 hours a night
04:36.00Arrowmasterwe do 3 nights but have a long sunday raid
04:36.57Arrowmastergoal of getting 3 TK and 3 SSC bosses down on first raid of the week
04:37.03AntiarcWoo, new haste record.
04:37.04Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_101507_212903.jpg
04:37.35aestilantiarc, how's HS going?
04:37.46AntiarcHeheh, we're still working on Rage
04:37.54Antiarc4% last attempt, but the ice bolts are pwning us.
04:38.05AntiarcHence the PVP trinket in that screenshot
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04:40.30Kerafyrmwow.. the Antiarc... <3 your armor tools :)
04:40.37Kerafyrmarmory*
04:40.50Seerahhe's "the" Antiarc now? ;)
04:41.08Kerafyrmyup
04:43.15Seerah~seen Funkeh`
04:43.38purlfunkeh` <n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19m 6s ago, saying: 'later'.
04:46.47AntiarcWell, to my knowledge, I'm the only "Antiarc" on the internet :)
04:47.23KerafyrmDid you post a fix to yer svn for the reputation tool, Antiarc?
04:47.45AntiarcWhich issue, specifically?
04:49.26Kerafyrmwell.. my workaround was to add another function into _armory.php which was a copy of getCharacterData except the URL was /character-reputation.xml and changed getGuildReputations call it instead.. prolly a horrible workaround but it worked
04:50.14Kerafyrmbasicly couldn't get any reputation request to work, they'd just instantly come back with a blank empty output page save the header/footer and legend
05:01.00AntiarcOh, that's right
05:01.05AntiarcI think so, but I'll need to check
05:01.27Kerafyrmno worries.. the workaround i'm using gets it done
05:01.36Kerafyrmbut, i'd rather be running what you have ;)
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05:02.17tjsare there any ace addons that are like mobinfo?
05:02.37tjsmostly interested in being able to see immunities like taunt, stun etc
05:05.07CIA-1203next96 * r52214 10Assessment/Extras/SoloHide.lua:
05:05.07CIA-12Assessment :
05:05.07CIA-12- Update locale koKR
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05:17.43theoddone33I managed to fit all my rogue skills into 7 bartender buttons, yay
05:17.59theoddone33no room for racials and trinkets though, hrm :(
05:18.25Seerahenable paging
05:18.37theoddone33oh I definitely have
05:18.38Seeraherrr....
05:18.45Seerahshift+scroll wheel
05:18.56theoddone33I have that too, just bound to keypresses
05:19.12Seerahspellbinder?
05:19.14Kerafyrmyay pve ptr copies are workng the the queue isn't full
05:19.21SeerahYAY!!!
05:19.28tjsbartender3 rox, only one feature I'd like to see on it, the ability to assign right click/left click/middle click actions to one button, like Sphere does
05:20.00NightHawkTheSanebt3 doesn't allow binding clicks to buttons? o_0 thats odd
05:20.10tjsits useful when your a mage to have your stack of food left click, create food right click, on one button, etc
05:20.16Seerah<PROTECTED>
05:20.32Seerahtjs: macro
05:20.37theoddone33this is actually simpler than my previous scheme
05:20.39NightHawkTheSaneer, yeah, macro :P
05:20.41theoddone33gonna be hard to get used to
05:20.46Seerahor autobar
05:21.16tjswas just saying it would be nice to grab the code for doing it from Sphere and sticking it into bt3
05:21.57NightHawkTheSanetjs: i don't really think they're directly translatable. in any case. "/cast [button:1] spell1; [button:2] spell2" :P
05:22.10Seerahmacro = win
05:22.11tjsah neat
05:22.17CIA-1203sylvanaar * r52215 10Prat/Prat_Modules/extras/Presets.lua: Prat: Adds "Maziel's Super Simple Setup"
05:22.18tjsI'll do that
05:22.20Seerahbutton 3 is scrollwheel button
05:22.39SeerahI have my 3 armor spells to macro.  left=molten, right=mage, middle=ice
05:22.43NightHawkTheSaneyeah, although depending on your driver software you can rebind all the buttons as you will
05:23.15Seerahanother macro is left=fireball right=scorch
05:23.17tjsI just want them to allow binding the damn apple key :/
05:23.27NightHawkTheSanetjs: that would be nice. ><
05:23.55NightHawkTheSanealthough, it'd munge up cmd-m, and others
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05:31.37CIA-1203hegarol * r52216 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
05:31.37CIA-12AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
05:31.37CIA-12- ZA update
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05:38.20theoddone33is there anything that will do a /changeactionbar 1 when I leave combat?
05:39.43CIA-1203orionshock * r52217 10Cartographer_Mining/Cartographer_Mining.toc:
05:39.43CIA-12Cartographer_Mining:
05:39.43CIA-12-Add Cart to Deps (prevents those that don't understand what modules are to download cartographer)
05:40.21CIA-1203orionshock * r52218 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism.toc:
05:40.21CIA-12Cartographer_Herbalism:
05:40.21CIA-12-Add Cart to Deps (prevents those that don't understand what modules are to download cartographer)
05:40.30Ordogprevents ... to download ... HU ?
05:40.53Ordogenforces? triggers?
05:40.57Ordog:P
05:41.06Orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9210.msg150117#msg150117
05:41.49Orionshock>.> the stupidity of some people is beyond me
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05:42.14Ordoghehe
05:42.17Orionshockdespite that my commit notes are bad English :P
05:44.42Ellipsissince when is your bad english limited to commit messages, Orionshock? :P
05:44.50Orionshockit's not
05:45.51Ordogthe "prevent" there is really confusing ^^
05:45.54Ordognot that it matters ...
05:46.00Orionshockjust kinda sick of stupid people ... fk i don't even code and i know that .."In order to use Cart_Mining, I have to install Cartographer; as Cart_mining is a MODULE of Cartographer"
05:46.25Ordogyou are talking about WoW players dude
05:46.32Orionshockno...
05:47.04Orionshocki talk to people all day long that can't figure out that the yellow cable goes into the port on the back of the white box that has a yellow outline....
05:47.12NightHawkTheSaneits not just wow players. people are stupid. period.
05:47.57NightHawkTheSaneit amazes me how some people haven't died from being too stupid to breath
05:48.09Orionshockdon't jinx it
05:48.14Megalonvicious circle of things being idiot proof
05:48.18Megalonand better idiots :P
05:52.50sylvanaarsee, thats why there are anti-stupidity measures in place
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05:53.55Ellipsisanti-stupidity measures?
05:53.59sylvanaaryes
05:54.19Ellipsishttp://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20070205.jpg ?
05:54.25NightHawkTheSanein my opinion, anti-stupidity measures mean knifes-to-the-face when you do something stupid.
05:55.18Poul|Raiderwhat is the most used/ best action bar mod avalible atm?
05:56.23OrionshockPoul|Raider: best? thats a matter of opinion
05:56.33NightHawkTheSanebt3 and bongos seem to be the most popular, i think.
05:56.35Orionshockmost used... don't know
05:56.37Poul|Raiderye thats why i said most used :)
05:56.37NightHawkTheSanebut that's just anecdotal evidence
05:56.38Orionshocki use BT3
05:56.42neeneeI think bartender
05:57.02Orionshocki use BT3 despite that im starting to dislike the author more and more :P
05:57.14neeneeI use no bar mods
05:57.35nevcairieli am not here to be liked :P
05:58.04Poul|Raideri use the ingame bars right now, can i use bartender without it changing any of my current bars, so if i am at a pc without any addons the bars are like normal?
05:58.22neeneeI think so Poul
05:58.58NightHawkTheSaneyeah, most action button mods will reuse the blizzard buttons
05:59.04Poul|Raiderk
05:59.04art3misnope
05:59.07nevcairielPoul|Raider: yes, BT3 was designed to work like that. it'll resemble the original bar layout by default, of course you can move stuff around, but it should work just fine if you turn it off again :)
05:59.10art3misbartender uses the real bars
05:59.25art3misif you want something thats not gonna touch yer regular set, get flexbar2
05:59.41Poul|Raiderif i move things around in bartenter and turn it off, is things then moved back to how it was before bartenter?
05:59.46Poul|Raiderbartender
05:59.47art3misin addendum to what nev said
05:59.52art3misnope
06:00.02art3misbartender is just a fancy schmancy way to display em
06:00.10art3misflexbar2 is new buttons
06:00.12Poul|Raideroki, fine, thats what i need.
06:00.17Poul|Raiderbartender that is
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06:09.04AntiarcWoo. Winterchill down.
06:09.14AntiarcBT here we comes.
06:09.17gnorbleh
06:09.25gnorwe had 3 phase 5 kael wipes tonight
06:09.30gnorb/c our tank can't see the vapors
06:09.55neeneeWhy can't he see them?
06:10.07neeneeGraphical problem?
06:10.08gnorhis graphics are super low or some bs
06:10.26gnori just discovered this at the end of the raid
06:10.29neeneeAh well, not everyone has a good computer :)
06:10.32gnornot my favorite time to hear about issues
06:10.47AntiarcOur MT plays on an integrated graphics card
06:10.53nevcairiellol
06:11.09nevcairielpeople should atleast be able to turn spell details up a notch
06:11.11AntiarcSo we just yell in vent if she's standing in something and needs to move
06:11.11gnorit's the only way to wipe at that point
06:11.16gnorand it just keeps happening
06:12.02vhaarrnorgs: what's going on with the auc svn?
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06:18.16CIA-1203chexsum * r52220 10KillingSpree/ (KillingSpree.lua KillingSpree.toc):
06:18.16CIA-12KillingSpree:
06:18.16CIA-12- Fixed a few things - it should work properly now
06:18.16CIA-12- Added kill counter to the fubar plugin text
06:18.16CIA-12- Re-added spree timer since its useful
06:18.17CIA-12- Tooltip is now hidden when its blank
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06:19.12CIA-1203hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r52221 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: (log message trimmed)
06:19.12CIA-12AceTab-3.0:
06:19.12CIA-12- Cycling works ALMOST properly now. Hackish implementation means that if a
06:19.12CIA-12cycle is invoked in the exact same frame and cursor position as that of the
06:19.12CIA-12previous cycled completion, the previous one will be used. This is the best
06:19.13CIA-12I've been able to do, since OnTextChanged (unsurprisingly?) doesn't really only
06:19.17CIA-12get called when the text is changed.
06:20.09Ani|http://tinyurl.com/2ztwu2 <- does anyone know whitch addon this <ALT+Left click...>  does?
06:20.29Ellipsis...lol?
06:21.01vhaarrthis is why PTR access should be restricted
06:21.18hyperChipmunkAni|: that's blizzard's PTR feedback
06:21.40chexsumlol
06:21.57NightHawkTheSanevhaarr: haha
06:22.13hyperChipmunkit lets you submit feedback on the moused-over object to Blizzard, and is only active on the test realms
06:22.36Ani|oh
06:22.39chexsumtheres a blue B on the minimap that changes a couple of settings with the feedback
06:22.42Ani|thanks, didn't know ^^'
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06:31.07Orionshockeww... Global Recursion :(
06:35.27Kerafyrmany of the Omen folks around?
06:35.45Kerafyrmtrying to figure out why its throwing an error on one toon and not the other with the same exact mods loaded
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06:38.09EllipsisKerafyrm, might be helpful if you actually gave the error message
06:38.42CIA-1203helium * r52222 10Fence/Fence.toc:
06:38.42CIA-12Fence:
06:38.42CIA-12- bump toc to 20200
06:39.02OrionshockKerafyrm: was gona say like 5mins go to pastey the error message
06:39.02CIA-1203helium * r52223 10FuBar_ArenaFu/FuBar_ArenaFu.toc: FuBar_ArenaFu - - bump toc to 20200
06:40.16Kerafyrmwas digging that up ;)
06:40.27Kerafyrmthought it was in clipboard still but it wasn't so had to relogin
06:40.32Kerafyrmsoz
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06:41.49Kerafyrmhere we go
06:41.50Kerafyrmhttp://ace.pastey.net/75360
06:42.16OrionshockKerafyrm: do you have sinklib enabled?
06:42.25Kerafyrmyup
06:42.45CIA-1203julith * r52224 10GridExtraBar/ (. GridExtraBar.lua GridExtraBar.toc):
06:42.45CIA-12GridExtraBar: initial commit
06:42.45CIA-12- This addon provides a faded extra bar behind the normal health bar of grid.
06:42.45CIA-12This addon is meant to be used together with GridStatusIncomingHealth to display
06:42.45CIA-12the incoming health of a unit as a faded bar behind the health bar.
06:43.13OrionshockKerafyrm: creepy
06:43.21OrionshockAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/75360
06:44.00Kerafyrmonly throws that on my rogue, not on my priest, same mods same acct
06:46.34vhaarrOrionshock: It's actually my library.
06:46.54Orionshockvhaarr: i know :D
06:46.59CIA-1203rabbit * r52225 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: SinkLib: Bugfix for library upgrades with custom sinks registered.
06:47.00vhaarrKerafyrm: fixed
06:47.03OrionshockLOL
06:47.06Orionshock>.>
06:47.06vhaarrOrionshock: so why didn't you ping me, then
06:47.37Orionshockwell i was following an obvious line of thought, start with the addon that threw the error
06:48.28Kerafyrmwow
06:48.29Orionshockthen again i could have actualy read the error
06:48.37Orionshockand reilized that i was wrong...
06:49.45Orionshocksorry i don't multi task too well >.>
06:52.53CIA-1203julith * r52226 10GridStatusIncomingHealth/ (. readme.txt):
06:52.53CIA-12GridStatusIncomingHealth:
06:52.53CIA-12- added externals
06:52.53CIA-12- added a readme.txt which tells the connection between
06:52.53CIA-12<PROTECTED>
06:55.37CIA-1203julith * r52227 10GridExtraBar/ (. readme.txt):
06:55.37CIA-12GridExtraBar:
06:55.37CIA-12- added a readme.txt which tells the connection between
06:55.37CIA-12<PROTECTED>
06:56.40CIA-1203helium * r52228 10FinderReminder/FinderReminder.toc: FinderReminder: bump toc to 20200
06:59.39Kerafyrmthanks vhaarr :)
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07:04.17CIA-1203helium * r52229 10FuBar/ (FuBar-Locale-enUS.lua FuBar-Locale-zhTW.lua FuBar.lua):
07:04.17CIA-12FuBar:
07:04.17CIA-12- extracted more localizable string in enUS
07:04.17CIA-12- updated zhTW localiazation
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07:08.52CIA-1203nevcairiel 07Alpha * r52230 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua:
07:08.52CIA-12Ace3 - AceDB-3.0
07:08.52CIA-12- small tweaks
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07:15.45CIA-1203pastamancer 07Alpha * r52231 10Ace3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): AceComm-3.0 proof-of-concept with tests!
07:16.33Orionshock... >.>
07:16.59Orionshockmy little mod somehow got "Quest_Log_Update" event registered to it's frame....
07:21.17kebinusanportal needed more levels
07:21.43OrionshockXinhuan:  :P
07:21.55kenlyrickebinusan: you've done all the challenges?
07:22.13CIA-1203pastamancer 07Alpha * r52232 10Ace3/tests/wow_api.lua: Add strmatch and SendAddonMessage.
07:22.30kebinusanreplaying it so I can listen to all the funky compy chatter about the weighted companion cube
07:22.38kebinusanthen I plan on going through all those
07:22.39kenlyriccake is only the beginning
07:23.29soulless>_>
07:24.39evlAny pointers where I can read about SecureUnitButtonTemplate?
07:24.54OrionshockframeXML
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07:25.14Poul|Raiderfridgid, join me in #RDX-dev for a few :)
07:25.21CIA-1203nimbal * r52233 10Buffalo2_Dreamlayout/Dreamlayout.lua: Buffalo2_Dreamlayout: Fixed the appearance of the border. Dry-coded
07:25.28soullessyou superraider?
07:25.38evlI've got some party frames and I'm doing RegisterUnitWatch(true) and I have the unit and target attributes set, however I'm unsure of waht events to register for them and more specifically how to hide/show them based on HIDE_PARTY_INTERFACE
07:25.48Poul|Raidersoulless> you superraider? yes
07:27.02evlI've tried looking at Grids code but I'm baffled to see it never calls RegisterUnitWatch
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07:32.34neeneeOrionshock, which little mod?
07:32.37Orionshocknot kidding evl - extract the default UI, alot of the documentation is in the frame code
07:32.49pastamancerRegisterUnitWatch isn't needed in grid.  It uses SecureRaidHeader.
07:32.56Orionshockneenee: http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys/
07:33.10neeneeAh okay
07:33.17neenee=]
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07:33.24Orionshockbut i fixed it, i gave the frame a name
07:34.06Orionshockand gave it a parent.. very important things to childreen, to be given names and parents...
07:34.09evlpastamancer: Should I be using any SecurePartyHeader to handle my party frames?
07:37.15pastamancerevl: probably
07:38.21MegalonOrionshock: poor little nameless orphanframes :<
07:38.51pastamancername yo' frames!
07:39.06Orionshocknoooooo
07:39.12Orionshocki failed the escort quest :(
07:39.58OrionshockMegalon: ya, mine was a nameless orphan frame.. and then something started to molest it..
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07:40.33Orionshocktelling him that he needed to worry about things that where way older than he was...
07:40.44pastamancerframe:TemptWithCandy()
07:41.42Orionshockpastamancer: Error , invalid argument(s) to :TemptWithCandy(), missing name of said candy(s)
07:42.05pastamancerkinder chocolate? :)
07:42.27Orionshock? error unknown
07:43.44Orionshockneenee: if you like that one then you might like it's twin brother - DailyFu
07:43.55sylvanaarwhats the strat for nailor?
07:44.09sylvanaarwhats the strat for nalor?
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07:47.45Orionshockanyone know xperl ?
07:48.18sylvanaarwe need to do a wowace, ZA run
07:48.30Orionshocklol
07:48.36Orionshock10 man or 20?
07:48.36sylvanaarthat would be fun
07:48.40sylvanaar10
07:49.09Orionshockya it'd be fun...
07:49.21MoonWolfif not slightly addon overloaded
07:49.26OrionshockLOL
07:49.26sylvanaarlol
07:50.10sylvanaarsince most of us haven't ever even played wow together - should make a post and see who is interested
07:50.22MoonWolfOMG your omen is 2 revisions outdated!
07:50.58Orionshockno pre-maids?
07:51.04Orionshockno pre-mades?
07:51.08nevcairielno
07:51.51CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r642 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (TourGuide.lua StatusFrame.lua QuestTracking.lua): TourGuide - Added "Kill" objectives, Quest and Quest Objective tag pair... allows for detection of completion of just one sub-objective of a quest, like "Young Thistle Boar slain: 4/4"
07:52.14Orionshocki'd go but i think ppl would say my gear sucks :\
07:52.23art3mishehe i know my gear sucks ;P
07:52.25nevcairielanyone who doesnt have a char that is 70 and remotely equiped for ZA shouldnt participate anyway :P
07:52.30nevcairielso like, kara gear is ok
07:52.36nevcairielanything before that, go visit kara :P
07:52.52art3mistotal kara runs 3 loot from kara 0, total gruul kills 5 total gruul loot 0
07:53.00Orionshockive got ..3 epics from kara... all not set pieces
07:53.05art3misamount of pieces in kara i want that are better than what i have 2
07:53.26nevcairielwhat class are you art3mis?
07:53.30art3missp
07:53.35art3mis894 shadow
07:53.46art3mis!c us echo isles rozalyn
07:53.48ThraeBotart3mis: Rozalyn, Level 70 Undead Priest (9/0/52). 6661 HP; 8010 Mana; 150 mana regen; 5 mp5; 97 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 601 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (780); 241 shadow dmg (842); 4.90% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1284 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ycyeo ][ Talents: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=echo%20isles&n=rozalyn ][ Updated: Tue Oct 16 03:56:13 2007 EST ]]
07:53.57art3miserr 842
07:54.05nevcairielhm not sure about sp, but nearly every class can replace lik 60% of their equip in kara
07:54.06art3misheh havent played it in like 4 weeks
07:54.19CIA-1203nargiddley 07Alpha * r52234 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: Pass full path when a tree node is selected
07:54.19art3misi caompared the 3 full runs of drops
07:54.30nevcairielwonder what my warlock is up to now
07:54.34art3misand the only things for how i play are 1 thing from aran and one from nightbane
07:54.35nevcairiel!c eu antonidas orlin
07:55.03art3misthere were things in gruul i wanted but never rolled for
07:55.06nevcairieleu armory lagging ? :P
07:55.07art3misand kazz
07:55.17CrazyBennyeu armory down=P
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07:55.41art3miswouldnt mind going with a buncha people to see za though
07:56.06art3mispeople that arent emo whores that is
07:56.07art3mis;)
07:56.13art3misthus marking out 90% of my server
07:56.26Orionshockchar copy down :(
07:56.43art3misim not sure why premades exist
07:57.02art3missure it was movel and all but if you wanna test content wouldnt average people server better for that?
07:57.07art3misnovel
07:57.37Poul|Raiderhow is recount drawing its grahps? plotting alot of dots to make the linse or?
07:57.37CIA-1203nargiddley 07Alpha * r52235 10Ace3/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
07:57.37CIA-12Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: Initial Commit
07:57.37CIA-12<PROTECTED>
07:57.39art3misso hows ace3 coming along by the by
07:57.43Orionshockart3mis: not when alot are undergeared for BT
07:57.56art3misza is above bt?
07:58.00art3misbt/hyjal
07:58.00nevcairielno
07:58.07nevcairielZA follow Kara
07:58.07art3miswell then whats the problem ;P
07:58.12nevcairiel+s
07:58.16art3miswe're not testing bt ;P
07:58.49art3misit's simple you make copies of the nhilium players
07:58.58art3misand THOSE are yer base characters
07:59.03Orionshockback then..we needed premades so that we wouldn't royaly suck at BT... then again we did anywase
07:59.04art3misthen everyone can play ;P
07:59.29art3misim not quite sure about that guild though
07:59.45art3miseither they're REALLY good at figuring shit out OR work really well together to progress
08:00.12art3miscuz i cant see anyone being that obsessed by this game to give up the rest of thier lives
08:00.52CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r643 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (StatusFrame.lua QuestTracking.lua): TourGuide - Kill now completes on the same conditionals as Note
08:01.31Orionshocki wish there was a maturity test for the forums... the internet in general...
08:02.12art3misnetcop
08:02.15art3miscybernanny
08:02.18Orionshockit would weed out the ones that want to call the moderators in on everything like the rest of us are children that need mom to come btch slap us when we stray from the line...
08:02.20art3mis;)
08:02.43art3mispart of that problem started when they only slackassed modeerated
08:02.50Orionshocksomone called me the worst troll on the wowace forums :(
08:02.57art3mishad they done hard firt modding at the start.....
08:03.25art3missomone should go gif2ascii sloukens pic and post it ;P
08:03.27cladhaireOrionshock: Industrial would be offended by that comment
08:03.49art3mis<-- great troll
08:04.05MoonWolfart3mis, first you take funding by gold sellers for easy cosumables
08:04.07art3misi can show you how to troll wowace easily and with only a few words ;P
08:04.09OrionshockFFS ive been trying to do this escort quest for 2hrs not and failed again
08:04.14MoonWolfthen you take some extreemly movitated people
08:04.22MoonWolfsome good matematicians and tacticians
08:04.27MoonWolfand decent leadership
08:04.34MoonWolfand very strict rules
08:05.04art3misadd sleep dep, and an epeen, then you go on benders when there's new content ;P
08:05.27MoonWolfpretty much
08:05.30art3miswhat easort quest?
08:05.49Orionshockthe escort quest in skettis
08:05.55art3mishehe the best part of hardcore guilds is the inevitable explosions ;P
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08:06.10art3mishehe i always get caught by an elite wandering tree
08:06.48MoonWolfshoot them in the nads
08:06.52theoddone33I want a dawn of ruin on my rogue
08:07.03art3miscrusader aura is only for riding/mounted right?
08:07.04theoddone33I wonder if I could convince people to down kel'thuzad with/for me
08:07.14theoddone33art3mis: yes
08:07.15Orionshocki called someone on posting off topic who was calling me on posting off topic 1ce... it was a classic case of hypociacy
08:07.21art3misoh
08:07.40art3misthat reminds me anyone down the ghost wolf totem spiriti quest that leads to the mahgar?
08:07.44theoddone33and what made me sad was that crusader aura did not affect the ram racing group quests
08:07.47art3misrecently
08:07.55theoddone33er daily brewfest quests
08:08.00art3misheh yeah
08:08.08art3miswell it does kind of at the end of the barking
08:08.26theoddone33true
08:09.08CIA-1203bigzero * r52236 10GlowFoSho/ (GlowFoSho.lua GlowFoSho.toc enchants.lua):
08:09.08CIA-12GlowFoSho:
08:09.08CIA-12- .toc updated to 20200
08:09.08CIA-12- minor code changes
08:11.14art3misalready got my ram though
08:11.29art3miswodner if i should do the last couple of runs for the dress and pony keg
08:11.34art3misor at least the goggles
08:11.57theoddone33probably not
08:12.25art3misthe invisible pet is pretty rad
08:12.36theoddone33I like how there's only one blue mainhand rogue sword from 5-mans
08:12.49winkilleredge?
08:12.52theoddone33yeah
08:12.58winkillermillenium blade is also fine
08:13.00theoddone33I guess I just have to get the pvp one
08:13.00art3misthrash blade!
08:13.27winkillerseriously, it's better than most others. ofc it's too slow, but 71.7 > 50something
08:13.31winkillerand it looks badass
08:13.36theoddone33all the people that were planning ahead went aldor
08:13.39cryogenmorning
08:13.42winkillerok, I only had it for a week :P
08:13.49theoddone33but I went scryer and enjoyed my retainers blade for a long while
08:14.03theoddone33now I want to spec into something interesting
08:14.03winkillerI am aldor. and Vindicator's is fugly
08:14.44Comxxwhat the Event that fires when joining a party?
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08:18.07cladhairePARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED imo
08:18.41OrionshockComxx: www.wowwiki.com/Events
08:18.56Orionshockhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_%28Full_List%29
08:19.02theoddone33I guess I cold do the switch quest and get a vindicator's
08:19.04ZealotOnAStickWe had a Quickstrike drop tonight in BT.
08:19.22theoddone33but exalted to exalted is a little more time than I'm willing to put in
08:19.27CIA-1203linsu * r52237 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: Parrot: Add zhTW.lua
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08:20.28art3mishrm be pally miner skinner what faction aldor or scryer
08:20.52CIA-1203helium * r52238 10FuBar_ArenaFu/FuBar_ArenaFu.toc: FuBar_ArenaFu - Add FuBar to Deps
08:21.03winkillermost pallies are aldor
08:21.18winkilleriirc we though the shoulder enchants and stuff were better
08:21.20winkillerbut not sufre
08:21.21theoddone33aldor/scryer really isn't very important
08:21.35theoddone33I think for pally the aldor one is more heal less mp5 and the other way around for scryer
08:22.09theoddone33I just go scryer on every toon because I hate draenai
08:22.22CIA-1203helium * r52239 10FuBar_EmoteFu2/FuBar_EmoteFu2.toc: FuBar_EmoteFu2: bump toc to 20200
08:22.24CIA-1203jerry * r52240 10Links/ (Links.lua Links.toc):
08:22.24CIA-12Links:
08:22.24CIA-12_ Save frames position between session.
08:22.24CIA-12_ Allow relinking of craft links.
08:22.24CIA-12_ Only create the icon texture object when needed.
08:22.25CIA-12_ Hook Cartographer_InstanceLoot if it's installed.
08:22.27CIA-12_ Fix hooking after a standby.
08:22.31CIA-1203chexsum * r52241 10KillingSpree/ (KillingSpree.lua KillingSpree.toc):
08:22.33CIA-12KillingSpree:
08:22.35CIA-12- Adjusted profile defaults
08:22.37CIA-12- Added message if someone in the group is using this addon
08:22.43CIA-1203helium * r52242 10FuBar_ExitFu/FuBar_ExitFu.toc:
08:22.43CIA-12FuBar_ExitFu:
08:22.43CIA-12- bump toc to 20200
08:23.20CIA-1203helium * r52243 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.toc:
08:23.20CIA-12FuBar_FactionsFu
08:23.20CIA-12- Add FuBar to Deps
08:23.37CIA-1203helium * r52244 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFu.toc:
08:23.37CIA-12FuBar_FriendsFu
08:23.37CIA-12- Add FuBar to Deps
08:23.56CIA-1203helium * r52245 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.toc:
08:23.56CIA-12FuBar_FuXPFu:
08:23.56CIA-12- bump toc to 20200
08:24.28CIA-1203helium * r52246 10FuBar_GarbageFu/FuBar_GarbageFu.toc:
08:24.28CIA-12FuBar_GarbageFu:
08:24.28CIA-12- bump toc to 20200
08:24.28CIA-12- Add FuBar to Deps
08:24.36theoddone33mm scryer is 6mp5, 22 +heal
08:24.52CIA-1203helium * r52247 10FuBar_GroupFu/FuBar_GroupFu.toc: FuBar_GroupFu: Add FuBar to Deps
08:25.13CIA-1203helium * r52248 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.toc:
08:25.13CIA-12FuBar_GuildFu
08:25.13CIA-12- bump toc to 20200
08:25.13CIA-12- Add FuBar to Deps
08:25.15art3mishelium are you the one thats maintinain fubar1?
08:25.50[Ammo]I hope he added it to optdeps
08:25.54CIA-1203helium * r52249 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFuLocale-zhTW.lua: FuBar_LocationFu: updated zhTW localization
08:26.02CIA-1203helium * r52250 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc: FuBar_PerformanceFu: Add FuBar to Deps
08:26.04[Ammo]since those things don't depend onfubar
08:26.32CIA-1203helium * r52251 10FuBar_PTReagentFu/FuBar_PTReagentFu.toc: FuBar_PTReagentFu: bump toc to 20200
08:26.49CIA-1203helium * r52252 10FuBar_QuestsFu/FuBar_QuestsFu.toc:
08:26.49CIA-12FuBar_QuestsFu:
08:26.50CIA-12- Add FuBar to Deps
08:27.14CIA-1203helium * r52253 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/FuBar_SkillsPlusFu.toc:
08:27.14CIA-12FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
08:27.14CIA-12- Add FuBar to Deps
08:27.23theoddone33yeah 33 heal 4mp5 probably is better than 22 heal 6 mp5
08:27.25[Ammo]that all needs reverting again
08:27.26ComxxAmmo they already have Fubar as a optdeps
08:27.30[Ammo]bloody idiot taiwanese
08:27.32CIA-1203helium * r52254 10Grid/GridLocale-zhTW.lua: Grid: updated zhTW localization
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08:27.35nevcairielwhy do people do stuff like that
08:27.39[Ammo]I dunno
08:27.42[Ammo]but it all needs reverting
08:27.58[Ammo]bloody retard
08:28.10Comxxlol ammo
08:28.39[Ammo]I expect complaints soon
08:32.37CIA-1203ammo * r52255 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.toc: FuBar_GuildFu: revert Helium commit. FuBar is not a required dep for fubar plugins.
08:32.54Kerafyrm...
08:34.08cladhairethis is going to be a long string of commits.
08:34.15Ellipsis...yeeeeeah
08:34.26CIA-1203ammo * r52256 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc: FuBar_PerformanceFu: revert Helium commit.
08:34.29[Ammo]I will on;y do the ones I use :p
08:34.32[Ammo]someone else can do the rest
08:35.04EllipsisWTB svn-bant for helium
08:35.31CIA-1203ammo * r52257 10FuBar_QuestsFu/FuBar_QuestsFu.toc: FuBar_QuestsFu: revert helium commit, FuBar is not a required dep for QuestsFu
08:35.37Comxxhehe and i do the that i use after you ammo =)
08:36.03[Ammo]done
08:37.25MoonWolfsomeone revoke heliums commit powers.
08:40.43CIA-1203nevcairiel * r52258 10FuBar_ArenaFu/FuBar_ArenaFu.toc: FuBar_ArenaFu - revert heliums commit
08:40.53CIA-1203nevcairiel * r52259 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.toc:
08:40.53CIA-12FuBar_FactionsFu
08:40.53CIA-12- revert heliums commit
08:41.08CIA-1203nevcairiel * r52261 10FuBar_GarbageFu/FuBar_GarbageFu.toc:
08:41.08CIA-12FuBar_GarbageFu
08:41.08CIA-12- revert heliums commit
08:41.10CIA-1203nevcairiel * r52260 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFu.toc:
08:41.10CIA-12FuBar_FriendsFu
08:41.10CIA-12- revert heliums commit
08:41.11CIA-1203nevcairiel * r52262 10FuBar_GroupFu/FuBar_GroupFu.toc: FuBar_GroupFu: - revert heliums commit
08:41.39nevcairieli should've done it in one commit, but kaelten doesnt like it if we override the pre-commit protection :o
08:41.55CIA-1203nevcairiel * r52263 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/FuBar_SkillsPlusFu.toc:
08:41.55CIA-12FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
08:41.55CIA-12- revert heliums commit
08:41.58[Ammo]hehe
08:42.07[Ammo]his FuXPFu was about the only legit one
08:42.09[Ammo]the toc bump
08:42.39art3misso hows manitaining the fubar1 and cart1?
08:42.44art3misere who
08:42.58norgsvhaarr: we're moving servers at the moment
08:43.29norgsshould be rectified soon though
08:43.46art3mishey norgs
08:43.49norgs(less than 2 hours)
08:43.56norgshi :)
08:43.59art3misi meant to ask something about auc
08:44.06art3misbut i cant for the life of me remember what
08:44.12art3misOH wait now i do!!
08:44.31art3misya know how if you pick a stakc of say cloth and set a price and it remembers for the 20
08:44.42art3misis there a way to auto remember for partials?
08:45.00art3misso if 20 was 5 g 10 would be 2.5?
08:45.19art3mislike do i have to add a tick somehwere?
08:45.30norgsart3mis: should be what it does
08:45.37art3mishrm its not
08:45.44norgs(assuming you are talking about auctioneer 4 here?)
08:45.50art3misone i click on a prtail stack it forgets everything its learned
08:45.52art3misyeah
08:46.03art3misthe advaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnced version ;P
08:46.18norgsoh, you're talking about advanced?
08:46.24art3misyes
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08:46.38norgsit should be doing it too... that price is per-item, not per stack
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08:46.55art3misif im not using the auction setup tab?
08:47.03art3misbut just dragging and pricing a stack
08:47.05art3mis??
08:47.11art3misshouldnt it learn that?
08:47.20norgsahh, no we don't modify the default tab any more
08:47.26art3misahh okay
08:47.30art3misthat explains
08:47.41norgsstock-standard blizzard interface
08:47.44art3mishow do you set it up "per stack" instead of per piece?
08:48.00art3misaccidently listed a stack of rune for 44g ;)
08:48.16silentiumFuBar_EmoteFu2 got FuBar as required dep too with the toc bump
08:48.19art3miswill i actually need to get a calculator?
08:49.05art3misuh oh lunesta just kicked in
08:49.10norgswe're going to put a little tool there that will do it for you (ie, you put in the stack price and it will alter the per-item-price)
08:49.24norgsbut it's not there yet
08:49.48norgslikely it will be a checkbox type thing
08:49.50vhaarrnorgs: ah, alright, will the base URL change?
08:50.00norgsvhaarr: yes
08:50.22art3misnorgs: okies so im not going crazy, thanks !
08:50.26art3misnow for bed time!
08:50.30vhaarrnorgs: where can I get more info? I'm guessing you have some IRC channel, but /who'ing you gives nothing
08:50.32norgsit will be svn.norganna.org (splitting to multiple servers - yay!)
08:50.33silentiumstupid fubar plugin changes, FuBar_EmoteFu2 only offers a dewdrop menu with all default emotes, really doesnt need fubar
08:51.00norgsvhaarr: #norganna is where we hang
08:51.04vhaarrright
08:51.08CIA-1203hegarol * r52264 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (GeneralPvP.en.lua sets.en.lua):
08:51.08CIA-12AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
08:51.08CIA-12- Arena Season 3 Update
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08:54.26KerafyrmWOOoooo1
08:54.30KerafyrmSo cal earthquake
08:54.31Kerafyrmminor
08:54.35Kerafyrmpossible foreshock
08:54.49Kerafyrmstill got a bit of a rumble going on
08:57.29neeneeHm. Does anyone know of an addon which removed chat/emote/etc spam? Not by blocking all emotes for instance, but just repeats of the same thing within a set time.
08:57.47art3misstopthespam i think
08:58.09neeneeNo, that's to block addon loading messages
08:58.24art3mistype in repeat in wau ;P
08:58.32art3misi saw it yesterday jus cant remember the name
08:58.36neeneeok.
08:58.39theoddone33hm I didn't feel it
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08:58.47theoddone33an earthquake and I missed it! no fair
08:58.53neenee:)
08:58.58art3mismaybe he was at yer moms place
08:59.14neeneeNo addon with Repeat
08:59.20neeneeNor in the description
08:59.25Kerafyrmlol
08:59.32Kerafyrm4.2 outta Wrightwood
09:00.01theoddone33wrightwood? never heard of it
09:00.05theoddone33must be a different part of socal
09:00.22Kerafyrm3Miles N of Wrightwood
09:00.39theoddone33oh man
09:00.42Kerafyrmhttp://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/117-34.htm
09:00.44theoddone33a 4.2, I definitely should have felt that
09:00.48theoddone33:(
09:00.51Kerafyrmhttp://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/ci10285533.htm
09:00.55KerafyrmI'm in Orange County
09:01.06theoddone33and you felt it?
09:01.09Kerafyrmand it was a minor rumble real subtle, then a single strong jolt
09:01.14Kerafyrmand then continued minor rumble
09:01.21theoddone33wonder how I missed it
09:01.24Kerafyrmand of course, my pager goes off
09:01.28neeneePerhaps you just slept well.
09:01.29theoddone33I'm closer to there than OC
09:01.38Kerafyrmsometimes i hate being a volunteer fire fighter.. lol
09:01.44Kerafyrmright in the middle of an instance
09:01.52neenee=]
09:02.07winkillerquake.usgs.gov sounds like a quake server :<
09:02.14theoddone33I was so busy losing at AB
09:02.14Megalon:D
09:02.15Kerafyrmearthquake.usgs.gov ;)
09:02.46Kerafyrmnot sure how ou missed it theoddone33... it was strong enough for me to notice mid-fight with music going
09:02.55theoddone33yeah I dunno
09:03.00theoddone33was only like 10 minutes ago
09:03.06Kerafyrm2.0 after
09:03.14theoddone33last one was 4.2 near simi and I felt that loud and clear
09:03.18theoddone33or 4ish
09:03.32Kerafyrmthe 4.2 was pretty shallow too
09:03.37Kerafyrmit shouldn't have skipped under ya
09:04.07CIA-1203rabbit * r52265 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining: Optimize the option table slightly.
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09:04.34Silowyiany linux gurus around?
09:04.54Kerafyrmehh kinda
09:04.55Frittiwhat's the q
09:05.06neeneeJust ask the question
09:05.14Silowyijust curious why ext3 formats so much faster than NTFS
09:05.21art3mis#  Suppresses channel leave/join notifications.
09:05.21art3mis# Suppresses repeated messages in public channels.
09:05.29Arrowmasterbecause it wasnt made by microsoft
09:05.30art3misneenee that more or less waht you want?
09:05.34CIA-1203sayclub * r52266 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua:
09:05.34CIA-12Grid:
09:05.34CIA-12- koKR typo fix
09:05.36neeneeIt's journaled
09:05.39Frittibecause it's a completely different setup
09:05.42Arrowmasterso is ntfs
09:05.47Kerafyrmgood answer Arrowmaster
09:05.49winkillerlike you format all the time
09:05.50neeneeart3mis, I think so :)
09:05.55winkillerspeed is sooo important
09:05.55Arrowmasterits the truth
09:06.06neeneeHm
09:06.10art3misget prat, phanx chat or pretty much any recent chat mod will have a tick toggle for it
09:06.29art3misi suggest phax for a smaller chat addon+cirks chat manager
09:06.31Arrowmasterit wasnt made by microsoft and other people can actually see and change the source code so you know it gets better over times
09:06.38art3misi use those two predominately
09:06.44SilowyiI'm just curious, because I thought that part of the formatting process is to basically "write zeros"... which it appears that linux or at least CentOS doesn't take nearly long enough.
09:06.55Arrowmasterno
09:07.02Frittiit doesn't write zeroes afaik
09:07.08Silowyilinux doesn't
09:07.09Frittiat least not on the whole disk
09:07.13Silowyipretty sure windows does
09:07.13Frittidoesn't need to either
09:07.14CIA-1203sayclub * r52267 10GridExtraBar/GridExtraBar.lua:
09:07.14CIA-12GridExtraBar:
09:07.14CIA-12<PROTECTED>
09:07.29Arrowmasterwindows does if you dont tell it to do a quick format, which everybody does
09:07.37winkillerno, not everybody
09:07.37Frittiexactly
09:07.37neeneeI only use a very small chat addon though. I'll try to rip anti-spam from one of those two addons
09:07.41winkillerI strongly disagree
09:07.47Frittithe only reason not to do a quick format is to test your HD
09:07.53CIA-1203sayclub * r52268 10GridStatusIncomingHealth/GridStatusIncomingHealth.lua:
09:07.53CIA-12GridStatusIncomingHealth:
09:07.53CIA-12<PROTECTED>
09:08.26winkillererr, no?
09:08.26Frittiwhich you're better off doing with other software anyway
09:08.26SilowyiSee, I come from the days where you did a format because unformatted disks were unstable.
09:08.26art3mishttp://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/09/msg00278.html
09:08.27Silowyias in
09:08.27FrittiI remember int 10h low level formats,yes
09:08.27winkillernormally I format when I  buy the hdd, and then it gets a proper format :P
09:08.29art3mishttp://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/09/msg00384.html
09:08.30Frittibut that's unnecessary nowawayds
09:08.32Silowyiwithout doing a full format, not a quick format, your drives would lose data in a week.
09:08.36art3misSilowyi: that shuold assplain to ya
09:09.19SilowyiI suppose Linux is confident that modern drives don't do that then
09:09.20neeneeart3mis, http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tekChat/OMGSTFU.lua :) I'll use that
09:09.22art3misim never lost data on a quick
09:09.36Silowyithese drives are fresh from the manufacturer
09:09.44Silowyiwell... via newegg.com
09:09.52Frittisince we dumped MFM disks, lowlevel formats are unnecessary
09:09.59art3misneenee: hehe i almost half expected it just to YELL OMGSTFU at any duplicat line ;P
09:10.09neenee:) Nah
09:10.12Ellipsishuh, apparently I *wasn't* imagining that earthquake o.O
09:10.13winkillerwhat does that do?
09:10.17neeneeThat would just create more of a problem
09:10.17Kerafyrmlol
09:10.18art3misand thats too bad that it doesnt ;)
09:10.23Kerafyrmimagining an earthquake
09:10.28Kerafyrmthe cool part comes in about 40 minutes
09:10.33Kerafyrmthanks to smart people at Caltech
09:10.34Silowyihmm NTFS formats check for bad sectors
09:10.37Kerafyrmi'll link as soon as i get it
09:10.45FrittiSilowyi: the non-quick version, yes
09:10.47Kerafyrmanother 2.4
09:10.55Frittibtw it wasn't int 10h, my mistake :)
09:11.03art3misim waiting for the 9.8 that puses cali into the ocean
09:11.07art3mispushes
09:11.12Trell_mmo-champion down?
09:11.15Trell_damnit >_<
09:11.15Kerafyrmwon't happen art3mis
09:11.16Kerafyrm;)
09:11.17Silowyiit's not actually "writing zeroes" it's checking for bad sectors... of course it does that by... writing zeroes.
09:11.25art3misand computers and ram aprts sky rocket in price ;P
09:11.25Frittiheh, ok :)
09:11.28SilowyiTrell_: Then try mmoworld
09:11.34CIA-1203sayclub * r52269 10GridManaBars/GridManaBars.lua:
09:11.34CIA-12GridManaBars:
09:11.34CIA-12- Support for SharedMedia
09:11.35Silowyierr wait
09:11.38theoddone33learn to swim, see you down in arizona bay
09:11.40Silowyiit's not mmoworld...
09:11.41FrittiSilowyi: that's why I think you're better off using another program to check your HDD
09:11.47Frittiand then use the quick format option
09:11.49Trell_got it now, just very very slow
09:11.53Trell_thanks anyway Silowyi
09:11.54Ellipsisyeah Kerafyrm I usually check the scedc page as soon as I feel one, but I was gaming :P
09:11.55*** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-173.handshake.de)
09:12.02ZealotOnAStickart3mis: there's still Seattle.
09:12.05SilowyiTrell_: There's worldofraids.com there you go
09:12.07Ellipsiswhich is also why I wasn't entirely sure
09:12.12art3misseattle is mini Vancouver
09:12.26art3misits only a matter of time til washington state is aprtially absorbed ;P
09:12.29SilowyiWoR and MMO-C have like 99% data overlap
09:12.31Ellipsishay now, I lubs mah Seattle
09:12.36art3misjust give the asians a few more years
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09:12.42winkillerneenee: what does that stfu.lua do?
09:12.53art3miswinkiller: supresses duplicate lines
09:13.02neeneeyp
09:13.03Silowyihmm
09:13.03neenee*yup :)
09:13.06Trell_wooo arena S3, hihi 120 energy
09:13.09Silowyibut I like spam!
09:13.10winkillerwith a "buffer" or just following after each other?
09:13.24SilowyiTrell_: is 120 energy all that useful?
09:13.36Trell_not really.
09:13.36Tekkubonly the last thing said by the person, and only the last 10 people to talk
09:13.38art3misheh a gfunny addon would one that detects spam and then like google gives you ideas for spam recipes
09:13.51Bibi[11:07:52] <Trell_> mmo-champion down?
09:13.51Tekkub*to talk in the channel
09:13.52Bibinot totally.
09:13.53Bibi:D
09:13.57SilowyiTrell_: I sort of thought it was pretty much only useful before the first attack
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09:14.18winkillerah thanks
09:14.27Trell_nice to see some hitrating on there now though
09:14.39winkiller110 energy is sweet for BS spam
09:14.40Arrowmasterwhat?
09:14.40Trell_well, 24 >_<
09:14.44winkillerused to  be at 60 at aleast
09:14.52Arrowmasteri thought the rogue S3 had 0 hit rating
09:15.07Arrowmasteror atleast thats what my rogue friend said earlyer after looking at it on ptr
09:15.10Trell_its got 24
09:15.11winkillerarena stuff never had hit afaik
09:15.15winkillerwould be imba pve
09:15.15Trell_2x12
09:15.28Trell_legs and helm
09:16.20Arrowmasteri need to checkout the caster weapons, see if ill badly need to replace my S2 spellblade
09:16.38Trell_the 'requires personal arena rating of xxxx' is only to purchase, right?  or do you need to keep that rating to use as well?
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09:17.11Arrowmasterso is brewfest going to be gone when servers come back after maintance?
09:17.37Tekkubdoubtful, they usually use maint to tggle events
09:18.17Arrowmasterso by doubtful you mean probably?
09:18.32Tekkuboh, yea
09:18.36Tekkubdouble negative
09:19.28Arrowmasterhmm trying to decide between the goggles and the barmaid dress for my bloodelf pally
09:19.35winkillerTrell_: only buy
09:19.57MoonWolfArrowmaster, dress
09:20.05MoonWolforc goggles are not very nice
09:20.10MoonWolfgnome goggles are way better.
09:20.12winkillerI have to see if I manage to get the whole set after my mount
09:20.15Arrowmasteroddly i seem to have gotten the most tickets on my 40 pally than any other character
09:20.20winkiller950 tickets is hard
09:20.34winkillerI bought 3 epic mounts already
09:20.37Arrowmastermy 23 orc hunter has everything but the mount
09:20.40winkillerglad the event is over soon :P
09:20.45Arrowmasteryeah 3 mounts here too
09:20.50Arrowmastercan only use 1
09:21.00Tekkubgot the mount on my dorf, already bored of it
09:21.03MoonWolfgot a mount token but can't buy mount yet due to level
09:21.05Tekkubrams just ain't that cool
09:21.54Arrowmaster70 orc warlock, 58 orc rogue, 40 bloodelf pally, 23 orc hunter, and a 31 tauren druid i didnt do the event on because its not a bank mule and has no inventory space
09:22.09CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r644 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (5 files): TourGuide - Moved guide and tag parser to own file, totally rewrote tag parsing ***UNTESTED***
09:22.18TekkubI realized something today though....
09:22.22Arrowmasterprobably the only person with so many orc characters
09:22.31TekkubI won't be able to replace my priests cat with an epic cat
09:22.43MoonWolfwhy not ?
09:22.52Tekkubhe's not exalted with darny
09:22.58Arrowmasterlol
09:23.51nevcairieldidnt you have to be exalted to get a cat in the first place ?
09:23.56nevcairielor be nelf
09:23.57nevcairiel:P
09:24.03Tekkubloophole
09:24.16Silowyiwell looks like my raid 1 array is working just fine with the hotspare ready to go
09:24.19Tekkubbefore the change, the mounts were BoU and required a specific riding...
09:24.22MoonWolfdo some darnassus starting quests ?
09:24.24Kerafyrmthe 4.2 and following cluster is on the San Andreas
09:24.27Silowyitomorrow I test it :D
09:24.28nevcairielah, you mailed yourself one.
09:24.30Tekkubafter the change they were BoP and generic riding
09:24.34Kerafyrmthats exciting news
09:24.46SilowyiTekkub: BoU?
09:24.51TekkubBind on Use
09:25.05Tekkubthere even and BoU items anymore/
09:25.05Silowyiah right, cause they aren't BoE...
09:25.06Tekkub?
09:25.07MoonWolfSilowyi, most minipets are BoU
09:25.14Tekkuboh yea the pets
09:25.33winkilleroh yeah, back when you bought the mount on your main and sent it to the alt
09:25.39winkillerbecause of honored + rank3 discount
09:25.46MoonWolfyes
09:25.51MoonWolfor got a high level to buy it.
09:25.52Tekkubstupid rank3
09:26.02Tekkubdon't have to be high to buy mount
09:26.06Tekkubjust of the race
09:26.09MoonWolfsoon we can have 20% discount again anyway
09:26.13winkillerold pvp system had some good things
09:26.13TekkubHe also had a mecho
09:26.21TekkubI dismantled that fucker fast
09:26.22winkillerDIE, ALLY SCUM
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09:26.59theoddone33http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32022 s2 helm... I get it tomorrow
09:27.02theoddone33kind of giddy
09:27.04theoddone33which is stupid
09:27.14Tekkubhad I had the motivation, I would have gotten a wolf for a tauren too, but I had no tauren to give it to at the time
09:27.47neeneeIt's not stupid, as you probably spent a lot of time on it. WoW can be like a job and its rewards are very real then.
09:28.01Tekkubnope, PvP, it's stupid
09:28.21neeneeOpinions, opinions.
09:28.22winkillerwe made a pvp mount parade yesterday
09:28.29winkiller20 raptors, 20 kodos, 20 wolves
09:28.30winkiller:P
09:28.40theoddone33I need to get a kodo
09:28.42winkillerthen only 3 rams and 2 hawkstriders tho
09:28.46theoddone33but tokens are annoying to get
09:28.49Arrowmasteri dont think theres anything thats BoU, stuff that binds when you use it i thought was still marked as BoE
09:28.51Elkanoanyone using ItemDB having opinions on my latest changes?
09:28.57winkillerI need to get exalted silvermoon for hawky still
09:29.10TekkubI started dancing between the AH and bank in orgy when tauren got their new dance and had a line of tauren dancing within 5 min :P
09:29.23Arrowmasterthats nothing
09:29.24winkilleroh, new dance?
09:29.28SilowyiKerafyrm: this your earthquake? http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Quakes/ci10285533.php
09:29.31winkillerdidnt know there was an old one
09:29.31theoddone33Elkano: I upgraded it today and used it but I'm not sure what I'd be looking for
09:29.34Tekkubfunny what one person randomly dancing can do
09:29.45Arrowmasterour server had like over 100 lvl 1 taurens dancing naked ontop of the bank once
09:30.00Tekkubmmm... too bad I missed that
09:30.01Ellipsisthat's the one Silowyi
09:30.06Elkanotheoddone33, it should show a lot more items then before :) normaly about 20k now
09:30.29Elkano(in case you downloaded from wowace and not curse/wowi)
09:30.38SilowyiEllipsis: looks like you guys are in for some fun, that's a 3.1 and a 4.2 in 11 hours.
09:30.47Ellipsisyeap
09:30.49theoddone33I got from files.wowace.com like 6 hours ago
09:31.22Silowyihttp://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Quakes/quakes_big.php I look at this and think "living in Alaska must suck"
09:31.39winkillerwhere I live there was 1 earthquake in the last 30 years
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09:31.51winkilleryou could hear the glasses shaking, not more
09:31.58Arrowmasterhmm i think my hunters going to have 100 extra brewfest tickets
09:32.02winkillerso my parents told me :P
09:32.06EllipsisI still remember the "big one" back home...
09:32.14Trell_any theorycrafters worked out the 'benefit' of the executioner enchant?
09:32.20Trell_cos it seems pretty crappy compared to mongoose
09:32.33winkillerquiver for a nether?
09:32.34Arrowmasterfor raiding? its crap probably
09:32.36winkillerwtf
09:32.47Trell_winkiller: I prefer the amount of light feather needed
09:32.47winkillerTrell_: I'd look on EJ
09:32.47Elkanotheoddone33, then you should have the latest dev build :)
09:32.54Trell_99 iirc.
09:33.04winkillerwhere's the prob?
09:33.09winkillereven my 29 mage has 60 banked
09:33.12Trell_its just funny, is all
09:33.17winkillergrind harpies for 1h
09:33.38Arrowmasterive heard rumors that the -armor stuff can make armor go negative and cause extra damage
09:33.48Trell_it *can*
09:33.51Tekkubgrind? get em off the AH
09:33.52Tekkub:P
09:34.01Ellipsishttp://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eq_depot/2001/eq_010228/
09:34.04Tekkubjust search every time you're there and buy cheap ones
09:34.06Ellipsisfun fun ^-^
09:34.08Trell_but they already said ages ago, that the rogues -armor s3 stuff wont exceed the amount of +armor the clothis get on their s3
09:34.15Tekkubsame way I reagent-ed up my shaman
09:34.34Arrowmasterwait so it does make armor go negative?
09:34.45Arrowmasterisnt that um broken?
09:35.02Arrowmasterneeds nerfed asap imho since they nerfed my curse of shadows
09:35.07SilowyiEllipsis we had an earthquake here in San Antonio.
09:35.43winkillerALL shammies on my server don't need reagents
09:35.54winkillerall stuff I sent came back after 2 months
09:35.58winkillerfor over a year
09:36.04Silowyithe USGS recorded it, and I felt it which is how I knew it happened. But no one else in my house felt it. I was like "OMG what was that an earthquake?" And no one else noticed. But I looked it up and sure enough they recorded one at that time.
09:36.11Ellipsisheh
09:36.22Ellipsisit's weird how some people don't notice at all
09:36.37SilowyiNot really, we lived next to a quary... you get used to that kind of think
09:36.40Xinhuantekkub, Tourguide got mentioned on EJ forums :)
09:36.47Grumyup :)
09:36.52Ellipsiswell I guess that would do it Silowyi :P
09:37.10GrumTekkub: expect some heavy testing of tourguide when patch 2.3 hits ;D
09:37.11TekkubEarthquakes? I went to school like a few blocks from the USGS National Earthquake Information Center
09:37.12Kerafyrmthat 6 in wash is old old old :P
09:37.15Ellipsismy bf keeps thinking it's the wind shaking the building when there are earthquakes here
09:37.15Tekkubhttp://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/neic/tours.php
09:37.24Tekkubactually, technically, it was on our campus :)
09:37.41Tekkubit did eh? linkey?
09:37.44Ellipsisbecause he's from an area where earthquakes are pretty much unheard of, but wind gets really strong XD
09:38.00EllipsisKerafyrm: yeah, but it was a big one at the time :P
09:38.05winkilleroh, no clue I got the impression you were scandinavian then, tekkub
09:38.17Tekkubreally?
09:38.23Tekkubwhere'd you get that from?
09:38.25winkillermaybe mixed up with Mikk? :P
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09:38.39TekkubMikk's like danish or some pastry country
09:38.39winkillerfrom the user pages on wowwiki
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09:38.44SilowyiDid anyone see that discovery channel special about the Russian nuclear submarine that sunk near the berring straight?
09:38.45winkilleryeah, then it was that
09:38.48Kerafyrmthere has been awesome cluster activity on the san andreas fault over the past 2 days
09:38.58Ellipsis's like a roller coaster!
09:39.12Kerafyrm3.1 on the 15th
09:39.14Silowyiapparently they had seismographs in the UK that recorded the explosion...
09:39.15Kerafyrm4.2 today
09:40.01Grumfunny how the wow-europe.com pages really work atm :D
09:40.12winkillerwhy?
09:40.18winkillerwhy shouldn't theyß
09:40.41SilowyiThis is funny: New Equip-bonus on Druid Feral gloves: Causes your Maim ability to interrupt spellcasting and prevent any spell in that school from being cast for 3 sec.
09:40.50SilowyiLet's think about this...
09:41.00Silowyimaim is a stun... so yeah it will always interrupt casting
09:41.09Ellipsisitty bitty counterspell go!
09:41.19winkillerWTF
09:41.29Silowyieven a one point maim is going to stun for 1 second.
09:41.30winkillerSilowyi: source?
09:41.36winkillerthis is awesome
09:41.40Silowyiwinkiller: The patch test realm
09:41.44winkillerdruid for aran \o/
09:41.57Arrowmasterimmune to maim
09:42.14Trell_norolakk should be immune to bear
09:42.16SilowyiArrowmaster: no... no he's not... he's immune to the stun component, but the damage component still hits him...
09:42.24Trell_i hate him.
09:42.28Arrowmasteroh really?
09:42.53Silowyiwinkiller: Point being that it's almost entirely useless as a PvP item since Maim is already a stun... it's useful in PvE though...
09:43.25winkilleryeah, I know
09:43.28SunTsuSilowyi: Well, it's not. Because the caster can free himself from the stun, but the effect still lasts
09:43.44SilowyiSunTsu: At best it gives you about 2 more seconds.
09:43.58SunTsuSilowyi: Which in PvP can be all you need
09:44.36SilowyiSunTsu: The best part about this, is it makes me wonder if devs aren't seriously considering giving druids an honest to goodness kick at some point.
09:44.38SilowyiNew Equip-bonus on Mage gloves: Gives you a 50% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Polymorph.
09:44.43neeneeHm. I think tekchat is no longer maintained
09:44.45Arrowmasterlol
09:44.48neeneeI had to fix some things
09:44.58ArrowmasterSilowyi: are the warlock ones the same still?
09:45.10Silowyiarrowmaster: yes
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09:45.29SilowyiROFL:
09:45.30SilowyiNew Equip-bonus on Priest Shadow gloves: Reduces the damage you take from your own Shadow Word: Death by 10%
09:45.36Arrowmasterhaha
09:45.45Silowyithat's great
09:45.52Arrowmasterone of our raiding priests will use those for pve
09:46.05SunTsuSilowyi: Well, I like my feral exactly how it is. If it is getting improved, it's fine with me, no matter whether it's a great deal or just a little bit
09:46.08Arrowmasterat one point a SWD crit would do 2/3s of his hp
09:46.19Ellipsiscan has reduced life tap damage?
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09:46.48ArrowmasterEllipsis: 8/8 felheart
09:47.01SilowyiSunTsu: As of last week I was FIRMLY convinced that I would bite the bullet and go resto for s3.
09:47.14EllipsisArrowmaster, you couldn't pay me enough to wear 8/8 felheart :P
09:47.28Arrowmasterive only got 7/8 in my bank
09:47.30SilowyiSunTsu: Then they gave us feral-focused pvp set armor which is nearly as attractive as T6.
09:47.31Arrowmasternever got the bracers
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09:47.59Trell_how long a cast is cyclone?
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09:48.14SunTsuSilowyi: I never even considered going resto, maybe for a short moment at level 10 ;)
09:48.16Arrowmasteri loved how the 8/8 felheart bonus was better than the 8/9 plagueheart bonus though
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09:48.22SilowyiSunTsu: I liked the damage/healing on Feral gear in S1/S2 just cause I'm a shifter, I try to use all my forms... but I'll be using the S3 PvP gear for PvE more likely then not.
09:48.24pakozyo
09:48.27theoddone33cyclone is 1.5 or 2s
09:48.29theoddone33not sure
09:48.32Silowyi1.5
09:48.46Trell_the -0.1 sec cast time doesn't seem great
09:48.56nevcairielits great for arenas
09:48.57SilowyiSunTsu: Old school druid here, Nov '04. I spent 2 and change long years as resto.
09:49.04SunTsuSilowyi: Right, that's why I still am buying S2-Gear. I really like having heal on it
09:49.25Dezzimal8/8 nemsis was the shit
09:49.29SunTsuAnd my arena mate does so, too ;)
09:49.32Grumi love shadoompriest oneshotting themselves when tanking a blue beam @ Netherspite or hitting Curator during evocation ^^
09:49.33Trell_nevcairiel - even though it's only -0.1?
09:49.39Grumor more fun, hitting a magicshield :)
09:49.40nevcairielyeah
09:49.46nevcairielit prevented alot of disrupts
09:49.55Arrowmasterlol i had to get 8/8 nemesis just for certain fights
09:49.59SilowyiSunTsu: I'll probably end up doing some mix-and-match. I want some of the S3 gear for PvE, but am concerned about the complete lack of +healing, especially since I plan on dropping nurturing instinct.
09:50.03pakozi'm trying to clear something up,  About CoR and Demo shout, and how it affects a Raid boss.  If i remember correctly you don't need 5/5 demo to zero out ap on a boss, with CoR up.
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09:50.08nevcairielif you are being hit, you hope for every 0.1s to get a cast done :P
09:50.33SunTsuSilowyi: OK, I startet in 2006 with WoW and my druid. Startet with a mix of feral, balance and resto, and shiftet ever more to feral with every level
09:50.47pakozDoes anyone know the numbers for AP - Demo and CoR?
09:51.07Arrowmastersec i just logged onto my 70 warlock
09:51.23Arrowmaster+135AP -800armor
09:51.46SunTsuSilowyi: I do mix and match, mostly because I really have no luck rolling on any set dropping, so I use what I can buy
09:51.58SilowyiSunTsu: Yeah, tri-spec is fail for a druid. Really, unless you're talking dreamstate, you have to go pretty deep in a tree to utilize it well. Even then I think with Lifebloom that dreamstate healing doesn't hack it anymore.
09:52.03pakozthx arrow, but i'm after someone who has already done all the math heh ;x
09:52.32SilowyiSunTsu: Back when I started playing druid though, the feral tree represented something like a 5% total DPS increase :P
09:53.16Ellipsispakoz, check EJ, there's a big thing about it
09:53.55SilowyiSunTsu: druids were heal bots. That didn't really change until Blizard started hyping up TBC. Basically they were looking at a lot of druids who were very likely to quit instead of play to 70. It was interesting to watch at the time...
09:54.16SilowyiSunTsu: Feral has been "viable" for less than a year really.
09:56.06SunTsuSilowyi: I had a real hard time getting into instances as a feral and not doing the healjob. Now everybody wants me to go to instances with them
09:56.27SilowyiSunTsu: Yup, feral wins post TBC.
09:56.34EllipsisI hate druids
09:56.35pakozEllipsis: i am currently.  I can't find it
09:56.42pakozSo i came over here
09:56.44Ellipsisthey're so OP in terms of playstyle
09:56.44Pkekyomorning all
09:56.49pakozhoping someone would know offhand
09:56.52Ellipsispakoz: o.O lemme see if I can hunt it down for ya
09:57.01SunTsuEllipsis: "OP"?
09:57.07SilowyiEllipsis: I thought you were a warlock?
09:57.10SunTsuEllipsis: ah, over powered
09:57.44Arrowmasterso im currently wearing beer goggles and i still have 1181 +shadow and 154 +hit
09:57.55pakozbeer goggles?
09:58.00SilowyiArrowmaster: warlock? ^_^
09:58.01Arrowmasteri put the 22 +dmg and 14 +hit enchant on my beer goggles
09:58.04Arrowmasteryeah
09:58.25pakozarmory link?
09:58.27SunTsuEllipsis: I don't think so. Not more than warlocks, shadow priests and shamans are ;)
09:58.38Arrowmaster!c us burning legion tokrim
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09:59.53EllipsisSilowyi: I am a warlock, what of it?
10:00.01SilowyiSunTsu: There is one nitch that druids can fill better than any other class really, though Fury Warriors come "close". Switching between DPS and tanking roles in a single fight/instance.
10:00.10EllipsisI can do one thing - DPS
10:00.19Ellipsis*maybe* my pet can OT something
10:00.26Arrowmasterlol
10:00.29Arrowmasterthats a good one
10:00.34Ellipsisbut I can't just grab my heal set outta the bank and heal a 5man
10:00.46SilowyiEllipsis: And CC, and provide healthstones, and soulstones, and curses which benefit other classes...
10:01.16Trell_anyone got any ideas why Autobar refuses to save my settings between sessions?
10:01.16SilowyiEllipsis: neither can a druid... unless his team is geared to the teeth, he'll need to respec to be effective in a 5 man.
10:01.16Ellipsisin terms of the three roles (heal, tank, dps) druids are the only ones who can do all three as well as any other class
10:01.28Trell_Ellipsis; I disagree on the dps part
10:01.44Trell_healing and tanking, yeah ofc they can
10:01.51SunTsuSilowyi: Right. Sometimes both at the same time. I did tanking in SH on saturday. non-heroic. I did it in cat equipment, and I was damage wise on second place. Well, the only one before me was a warlock and he was way off
10:02.15Trell_the day a druid even gets close to me, dps wise, is the day I quit playing.
10:02.18GrumSunTsu: did you just go with 2 people? .. or did you have noobies standing below you?
10:02.37GrumTrell_: what class did you play?
10:02.44Corganhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32663 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31291 for an MS warrior (just hit 70)
10:02.46Trell_*do
10:02.47Trell_Rogue
10:02.59AdysCorgan: stop pinging me :p
10:03.06Corganhuh
10:03.09Trell_im saying if a druid ever gets close to me on dps, I'll have to quit with the embarassment
10:03.09GrumRogues should be able to do more dps indeed
10:03.10CorganWHAT DID I DO
10:03.16SilowyiSunTsu: A nice thing about druid DPS gear is it's high Agi... with a weapon swap and maybe a PvP piece or two (belt/bracers) it is possible to be crit immune, have 50%-ish dodge from your DPs gear, and still top 16-18k armor in bear form. You end up being a servicable tank that is somewhat low on HP.
10:03.19Trell_!c eu draenor Trell
10:03.19Arrowmasterholy shit wtf
10:03.21ThraeBotTrell_: Trell, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (41/20/0). 10334 HP; +10 Energy; 1598 AP; 364.800 Melee DPS; 24.18% melee crit; 254 melee hit; 13 +spell dmg/heal; 19.71% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1260 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo53k9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qh7qg ][ Updated: Tue Oct 16 06:05:46 2007 EST ]]
10:03.23Arrowmasterhttp://wowwebstats.com/ofirf3eqo2rnq
10:03.25Trell_thats me
10:03.37Arrowmasterthats like the closest our meters have ever been
10:03.38SunTsuGrum: Well, not really newbies, but a not so well equipped party, right
10:03.47Arrowmaster!c us burning legion tokrim
10:03.52SilowyiTrell_: A well-played rogue will always out-DPS an equally geared druid pre 2.3... though not sure about post 2.3 yet.
10:03.56GrumSunTsu: same difference ^^
10:04.01Arrowmaster!c us Burning Legion Tokrim
10:04.02SilowyiTrell_: That is 100% how it should be.
10:04.21Grumi think the 'pure' classes should always be able to do 10-20% more dmg than the hybrid classes
10:04.25Trell_Silowyi - maybe my servers druids suck in cat form, but I've yet to see a *good* druid'd dps.
10:04.26SunTsuGrum: Thats why we were non-heroic ;)
10:04.28Trell_*druid's
10:04.38SilowyiTrell_: I firmly believe rogues should unequivacably have the #1 DPS slot just cause that's all they've got.
10:04.48Corgan.
10:05.06ElkanoTrell_, we do have one
10:05.13Trell_Silowyi - that *should* be the case, but it's getting harder and harder.  other classes are getting closer and closer to our coveted #1 spot.  and they bring utility to a raid.
10:05.25SilowyiTrell_: I beat two rogues on Void Reaver, which is a bleed immune mob. Of course they were using Emerald Ripper and I had full T4 at the time...
10:05.34Trell_rogues bring zero utility.
10:05.44Trell_Silowyi - still shouldn't happen.
10:05.46SilowyiTrell_: Not precisely zero...
10:05.53SilowyiTrell_: You guys CAN kick.
10:05.56Trell_wow.
10:05.59GrumTrell_: they bring 1-1.4k single target dps ^^
10:06.02SilowyiTrell_: in like... 2 fights after Kara...
10:06.05Trell_not like anyone else can interrupt
10:06.17SilowyiTrell_: it's still utility!
10:06.22Grumhehe
10:06.30pakozEllipsis: Any luck?
10:06.31Trell_im just saying that other classes are getting very close to our level of dps, and bring utility.
10:06.32Elkanowell, kick can be usefull sometimes as can their poisons
10:06.56SilowyiTrell_: Yup. Though I do wonder how much of that has to do with mobility issues.
10:07.06Arrowmasterwtf how did we let a shaman get up there..... http://wowwebstats.com/ofirf3eqo2rnq?s=11161-11792
10:07.07Trell_we have a BM hunter in our guild that is so damn close to me it's scary
10:07.10SilowyiTrell_: It's hard to do DPS when you spend half the time running in and out.
10:07.21Ellipsispakoz: nope, I fail :(
10:07.53SilowyiTrell_: BM hunters can be pretty insane. But they pay more for their DPS then I do so I don't mind if one occasionally beats me.
10:08.06SilowyiThough, they make it up on avoiding repair costs :P
10:08.13neeneeI like BM :)
10:08.22Trell_luckily our mages are quite new atm, due to others taking a break, so I have no worry from them ;)
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10:08.26SilowyiI think using FD should kill your pet.
10:08.34neeneeWhy?
10:08.42Silowyi"ZOMG my master died I must commit selpuko!"
10:08.43Olisonlol :-D
10:08.46neeneeWhy would faking a death kill anything?
10:08.56neeneeNo, the pet smells you're still alive and doesn't panic
10:08.56Silowyior is it sepulku?
10:09.03neeneeseppuku
10:09.11nevcairielfeign death does actually kill alot of stuff
10:09.15Silowyiso I fail and spelling japanese words
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10:09.22Silowyis/and/at
10:09.24Ellipsisand english too, apparently :P
10:09.39nevcairielmostly because huntards are slow, and other casters are in melee range because of him pulling aggro :P
10:09.42neeneeYup, he fails at English.
10:10.17SilowyiI fail at typing past 5:10am
10:10.23SilowyiFor the most part
10:10.36Silowyiugh, and I have work tomorrow too
10:10.36Tekkubpfft, spelling is overrated in any language... YADDA!
10:10.39Silowyiwell goodnight all!
10:10.47SunTsuEllipsis: Well, being able to do more than one thing still holds a disadvantage. You are supposed to do more than one thing, people expect it. People expect from me that I exactly know how to play which role at which point.
10:11.10SilowyiYou know what would be great?
10:11.19neeneegnite Silowyi
10:11.38SunTsuEllipsis: I am leveling 3 dps-only classes at the moment ;)
10:11.58neeneeI see.
10:11.59Trell_SunTsu - I've been levelling every class for months, and I suck at levelling :P
10:12.07Silowyia mod for Solarian/Baron Geddon that started playing the music from the ventrilo harassment video when you got the debuff... then did the WTF *BOOOM!* from the ventrilo harassment Lindsey video when the debuff goes off.
10:12.08Trell_my highest is my 60 lock and 47 shammy >_<
10:12.16neeneeThere are no dps-only classes though, they all have utility and/or crowd control
10:13.38SunTsuTrell_: I just have a mage, a hunter and a rogue on levels 32, 33 and 34 at the moment. I am hoping to have them on a reasonable level when 2.3 hits the EU realms. Then I will start more twinks ;)
10:14.06SunTsuneenee: Well DPS-only as in "does damage, does not heal or tank normally"
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10:14.25Trell_my hunter has been 39 for as long as I can remember, my mage is 31, and my priest 41.  got a druid and pally too, both 20ish
10:14.28neeneeI see
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10:14.30KerafyrmHAH! PTR PvE Copy only took 3 hours not 3 days.. Silly Blizzard
10:14.32baer_moin
10:14.45neeneeShadow priest, Warlock, Hunter, Mage, Shaman, Warrior, Rogue?
10:14.57Pkekyofucksake!
10:14.57Pkekyockknight around?
10:15.09neeneeAnd perhaps Retro-paladins too
10:15.15simlanI requested SVN access a few days ago. Someone called Kaelten wrote a mail telling me I have access no.
10:15.27Trell_actually I'm not too fussed about fast levelling at this point - once 2.3 hits, it should become easier
10:15.28simlanI requested SVN access a few days ago. Someone called Kaelten wrote a mail telling me I have access now. But whats my username/password
10:15.29SunTsuneenee: SP and Warrior are able to heal and tank respectively
10:15.36Trell_roughly 10-19% levelling difference
10:15.37SunTsuneenee: Mage, Hunter, Rogue at the moment
10:15.57simlansorry for double posting
10:16.23EllipsisSunTsu: I should clarify; I played a healbot dr00d 1-70 and on through kara + gruul. I never once touched feral or balance talents, and wouldn't melee if my life depended on it. I'd caster dps only if absolutely forced. I know what it's like to have people expect you to fill a role you don't want to be in. :P
10:16.26neeneeShadowpriests can't heal when doing dps though
10:16.29SunTsuTrell_: I am somewhat tired of my druid - I get that from time to time, then I start twinking agaun
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10:16.59Trell_SunTsu: my shammy was king (or queen) of the 39 twinking bracket :P
10:17.14Trell_my on regret was not having Pendulum of Doom - spent months farming for it on my main though
10:17.19Pkekyoanyone here familliar with the new Autobar version?
10:17.32SunTsuEllipsis: Same with me with healing. I hate healing. Normal Instance is oooookeeeey, but raid is gross. I hat it. Really.
10:17.58Diaodpsing in raids is the most boring thing
10:18.03manyoomkin
10:18.04Diaotanking and healing is so much more involved
10:18.08SunTsuEllipsis: If my priest ever will leave level 14 that it is, it sure will be shadow ;)
10:18.26Ellipsismy favorite thing to do on my druid was solo heal
10:18.31Ellipsis5mans and such
10:18.37Trell_what annoys me is through 1-70 people not letting you heal any instances as a shadow priest/non resto shammy
10:18.41EllipsisI don't play well with other healers
10:18.46Ellipsiswhich is mostly why I quit the dr00d :P
10:18.50SunTsuDiao: Tanking is boring, too, often nothing else than doing dps
10:19.18manyand healing is boring too
10:19.38neeneeAnything can become boring.
10:19.38SunTsuDoing dps and wathing your life bar going up and down again and again ;)=
10:19.43manyso everything is boring, why again do you play wow? :>
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10:20.04Arrowmasteromg this is so funny
10:20.05neeneeBecause it's an addiction
10:20.11Arrowmasterhttp://wowwebstats.com/lfrdrntugsf53?s=12196-12797&bl=12693&fia=9&fiaa=i
10:20.14Arrowmastervery bottem
10:20.27manysoloing a druid is fine. enough damage, enough heal to keep you up
10:20.39simlanAfter doing the boring work like tanking, healing and DPSing, there is sometimes loot, that's exiting :)
10:20.47Arrowmasterthe raid fucking ran off trying to reset leo and left me there to die on that attempt tanking the shadow
10:20.54Arrowmasterbut i didnt
10:20.59manyyou can armor *3.5, innervate and stuff which will keep you up even longer
10:21.15Kerafyrmhmm.. wowwebstats can be privately hosted on a guild site?
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10:21.26Arrowmasterdont think so
10:21.30nevcairielonly the lite version without the fancy stuff
10:21.37Kerafyrmahh
10:21.37nevcairielala, a pure stats html page
10:21.39nevcairielwhich sucks
10:21.44nevcairieljust host it on their page :P
10:22.04SunTsumany: Well, I did not mean tanking alway is boring. But on some encounters there is nothing more to it than standing around and doing dps
10:22.15Kerafyrmbah..the complains that i get when their site/pages don't work i dun like.. so just do without ;P
10:22.19Kerafyrmcomplaints*
10:23.03SunTsumany: Right, I like having nearly no downtimes as a druid. I hate it when I have to sit around drinking, eating, waiting to go on
10:23.15nevcairielwe just host it on their page, but we dont post the links for our whole guild
10:23.20nevcairieljust the raidleading team
10:23.21Arrowmasterheh i tanked the shadow of leotheras for a minute and only got hit with the very first and very last chaos blast
10:23.53Kerafyrmyeah.. might do that.. good out of game info to have
10:23.58Kerafyrmnot good.. great
10:24.01Arrowmasterserves those bastards right for trying to kill me
10:24.17Arrowmasterleaving me there to die like that without any heals
10:24.32Diaodepends on what class you tank as
10:24.37Arrowmasterwarlock
10:24.47Diaowarrior is much more involved than say pally or druid SunTsu :P
10:25.36SunTsuDiao: I know, and you have more actions you can do
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10:26.43pakozEllis, Thanks for trying
10:28.01Ellipsismeh, normally I'm more helpful
10:28.08Ellipsissorry I couldn't find it >_<
10:28.14pakozhah
10:28.22CIA-1203daviesh * r52272 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
10:28.22CIA-12AtlasLoot:
10:28.22CIA-12- Made the Zul'Aman and Arena Season 3 tables accessible via the loot browser to ease PTR data population.
10:28.38pakozhow bout a mod that sorts debuffs on target?
10:28.53pakozso demo/sunder/cor/ff/BF/TC are first
10:28.57pakozregardless of who casts them
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10:38.24pakozgnight
10:42.42Pkekyonight? 12pm fucksake
10:44.01Ellipsisit's all a matter of perspective
10:44.10Ellipsis3:45am here, respectable bedtime ;)
10:44.21Grumdepends, your ass looks big from any perspective! =D
10:44.27neenee12.41pm here
10:44.30Pkekyolol Grum
10:44.45Pkekyoneenee: you suck, get with the programme, it's 12.44! :p
10:44.54neeneeNo it's not.
10:45.00Pkekyojes :<
10:45.11Pkekyopopped 45 just now, actually
10:45.24neeneeAh, now it is.
10:45.29neeneeMy clock was out of sync.
10:45.33Pkekyo^^
10:46.14Pkekyoohlawd....I shouldn't laugh this much at goddamn irc emotes
10:46.30Ellipsisit's ok, Pkekyo. I hear they have meds for that now.
10:46.43PkekyoEllipsis: shame I can't afford anything:)
10:47.28GrumEllipsis; what corner?
10:47.31Grumi was hiding behind your ass :D
10:47.41Pkekyolol
10:48.03Grumstop squishing me with your boundingbox!
10:48.04Ellipsisbwahahaha
10:48.08neeneewoo. Heroes episode 4 is out
10:48.17Grumneenee: downloaded \o/
10:48.22Grumjust waiting for the HR one :'(
10:48.31neeneeYeah, me too
10:48.40OrionshockEllipsis: one would think that that one missed instead of evaded :P
10:49.00Ellipsispfft
10:49.29Grumlike i could miss Ellipsis :D
10:49.39Grumi have negative hitrating .. and still .. it's impossible!
10:49.41Ellipsisyeah, Grum practically throws a party every time I go afk
10:49.48Pkekyoshite, I've got so much bundled software I could cry
10:49.55GrumEllipsis: awwwww
10:49.58Grumthat makes me sound so mean
10:50.07Ellipsisyou ARE mean :'(
10:50.11GrumYES! >:)
10:50.24Grumbut they dont need to know *angelface*
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10:52.07Diaohm
10:52.12Diaoanyone here use buffalo2 with dreamlayout?
10:52.21Diaoi'm getting a very strange error after the drycode fix
10:53.22Pkekyoanyone know where my Vice City install disk is? :<
10:54.02evlPkekyo: www.thepiratebay.org probably
10:54.05OrionshockPkekyo: ... right side of the monitor in the back.. you threw it there last month when that hooker turned you down
10:54.16Orionshock:P
10:54.20Corganban
10:54.20Corganfor warez
10:54.20Corgan:D
10:54.37Corgan:(
10:54.51PkekyoOrionshock: Negative, I repeat, that's a negative.
10:54.51Pkekyoevl: nah, not really... piratebay is a fucking joke
10:55.01evloh, ain't you eleeeet! ;)
10:55.02OrionshockLOLz
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10:55.46winkillerDiao: is there still the "mixed up items" bug?
10:55.59winkillerbasically the only bug I ever noticed. but that for months :(
10:56.11GrumDiao: ... drycode fix? :'\
10:56.13Pkekyoevl: no, just reasonable :)
10:56.23OrionshockXinhuan: btw, that code snipet you helped me with ... weeks ago finaly shitted on me.. had to add that table check back in :(    "http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys/core.lua"
10:56.39Xinhuanwhat?
10:56.39evlPkekyo: I use Giganews still, can't beat 2mb/s for 16$/month without those bloody seeders!
10:57.33Xinhuanwhy?
10:57.36OrionshockXinhuan: somehow i got extra events registered to my frame ... some how and i had to add that check back in that you told me was unNessisary
10:57.49Xinhuanthen its not your addon's fault
10:57.56Xinhuansomeone else is adding events to your frame
10:58.13Orionshockdon't know how ... but it happened
10:58.16Diaono
10:58.33Diaonimbal tried to drycode fix the error that popped up recently with debuffs in raids
10:58.36Diaonow the debuff takes up the entire screen
10:58.42Xinhuanevents don't trigger unless you register for it
10:58.43Diaothe texture anyway
10:58.45Diaoand you can't see anything
10:58.51Pkekyoevl: pirate bay is synonymous with "no seeders" ;)
10:58.57Xinhuanso if something triggered, then something else triggered it
10:59.08Xinhuanpossibly fubarplugin-1.0
10:59.29evlPkekyo: I enjoy the 250 days retention too sinec I don't pay attention to... anything :P
10:59.35OrionshockXinhuan: ya do bad there isn't a "frame:GetRegisteredEventsAndWhatRegedEM()
10:59.54OrionshockXinhuan: i don't use fubarplugin in that addon
11:00.10Xinhuanwhy did you register the same event twice?
11:00.14Xinhuancheck bottom of file
11:00.21CIA-1203rabbit * r52273 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Add support for aura cooldowns, enabled on all units by default.
11:00.43Xinhuanand what event triggered your addon that you didn't register for?
11:02.06Orionshockwell there is no stack trace with event registration ...
11:03.08Xinhuanyep there isn't, but you didn't answer either question i asked ;p
11:03.20Orionshockodd thing is that i force ably unregistered the event in game. "/run SOCD.eventFrame:UnregisterEvent("QUEST_LOG_UPDATE")" and it still happened
11:04.15Orionshockit worked fine for weeks and then decided to brake...
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11:04.46Xinhuanthat event triggers a lot
11:05.02Orionshockobsessively no less
11:05.15Pkekyoevl: retention?
11:05.24evlPkekyo: stuff stay there for 250 days
11:06.31Pkekyoah
11:06.34OrionshockXinhuan: i attribute it to the game being weird...
11:07.22Pkekyoevl: it's http downloads, no?
11:07.30evlPkekyo: usenet
11:07.37evlPkekyo: 1 bot, 10 connections, 2mb/s :o
11:07.45Xinhuantest it on PTR
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11:07.57XinhuanGetRegisteredEvent()
11:07.59Xinhuan;p
11:08.08Pkekyoevl: sounds tasty
11:08.33PkekyoI had 10mb/s on this torrent once
11:09.25Grumi wonder why people use torrents with all the honeypots in the swarms
11:09.29evlPkekyo: point is you get full speed from the first second
11:09.33OrionshockXinhuan: what's that do exactly?
11:09.34evlPkekyo: and ssl.
11:09.58Xinhuannever mind heh
11:11.13Pkekyossl?
11:12.12Fisker-Anyone knows if Battlemaster have a 1 minute cooldown á la spellsurge?
11:13.20MegalonPkekyo: secure/encrypted connections
11:13.52Pkekyoah
11:13.57Pkekyothought I'd heard it before
11:13.58vhaarrFisker-: it probably has some CD, but it's not nearly as much as 1 minute
11:14.31vhaarror hm
11:15.01vhaarrFisker-: I had it on both my weapons on my rogue just to test it out, and it procced on average 2 times per minute, so I guess the cd per enchant could be 1 minute then
11:15.27vhaarrturned out to be a bad idea, since the effect generates threat
11:15.47|Pixel|Fisker-: the french "a" with an accent is actually a 'à', not a 'á'
11:15.54|Pixel|so it's 'à la'
11:16.18Grumevl: ssl + torrents?
11:16.26evlno, it's usenet, olden golden ;)
11:16.34Grumgiganews? :)
11:16.37Fisker-ok thank vhaarr
11:17.39Fisker-oh screw you |Pixel| :(
11:17.55Fisker-unless you got something cool to launch soon *cough* D3 *cough*
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11:18.52Towbarhi folks
11:19.36Towbarif i link a craft to trade channel and they see " {CLINK:enchant:ffffd000 :36353:Leatherworking: Monsoon Belt}"
11:19.53Towbarinstead of the mats item link, what is doing that?
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11:21.05Towbaranyone have an idea?
11:21.19Grumand you disabled all your addons?
11:21.27Elkanomost likely not
11:21.47Towbarits obviously an addon but i am trying to narrow it down
11:21.57Elkanosince this is a custom item link used to make links work in custom channels in case both sides are using an addon suporting them
11:22.00Towbartrying now with no addons
11:22.04Grumthen unload all addons and start loading them one by one :D
11:22.12ElkanoPrat has a module for these links build in
11:22.13TowbarI got so many..
11:22.20Towbarahh prat maybe then
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11:22.38Elkanolook for a link module in its list
11:22.50Towbaring that
11:25.26furizaaHm. Sorry, i have to bother the channel. Is any eePanels2 expert in here?
11:26.08TowbarElkano: you get a gold star
11:26.12Towbarthx :D
11:26.28Elkano:)
11:26.34Elkanoyou're wellcome
11:26.38Towbartrying to sell vortexs and linking belts in trade and have the server saw gibberish
11:26.44Towbarhalf*
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11:27.59furizaa^^ The thing is... i got a Panel with a custom Texture. What i want to do is to colorize the Texture with a health indicator... try'd to plugin a script, but when i colorize, the whole Panel gets the color - instead of the visible Texture parts
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11:28.35Ellipsisyou want a mask, not a texture
11:28.46Ellipsisit's not something you can easily accomplish with eePanels
11:29.25furizaaHm, ok. Then i will make 2 textures with 2 colors and set the alpha values. That should work
11:29.53Ellipsisthat's probably easier
11:30.29furizaakk, thanks :)
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11:34.49Towbarwe went to BT first time last night
11:34.55Towbarwas fun :)
11:35.09Pkekyogeif BT plx
11:35.14Towbarfirst two bosses down
11:35.26Towbarfirst one seems to be a healer test / dps test
11:35.31Ellipsisgief raiding plx =[
11:35.35Towbarsecond one is just dont be retarded
11:35.45furizaaQuit that, i'm jealous :P
11:35.48Towbarnice change of scenery
11:35.55Towbarso sick of SSC and TK
11:36.10Towbarthe Kael struggle was a nightmare
11:36.32CIA-1203Firik * r52274 10BunchOfBars/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
11:36.32CIA-12BunchOfBars:
11:36.32CIA-12- New option to control the width of the Name area
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11:37.59Towbaranyone gotr a fix for the gladiator frame?
11:38.01Towbargot*
11:38.07Towbarmine seems to be off the screen
11:39.13cladhaireif you know the name for it, you can reanchor it
11:39.37cladhairef = GetMouseFocus(); f:ClearAllPoints(); f:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", 0, 0)
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11:39.41cladhairerun that macro while you're mousing over it
11:40.06Pkekyowhat's 'the gladiator frame'?
11:40.07cladhairejust make sure you're mousing over the main frame, not some sub part of it :P
11:40.14cladhairethe frame that's shown in the addon gladiator
11:40.27Towbarits not on the screen anywhere I can see, thats the problem :)
11:40.35cladhairedo you know the name of it?
11:40.41cladhairetry dumping GladiatorFrame
11:40.42Towbarwill scrole through the text and look for manual screen cords
11:40.45RecluseXD
11:41.41GrumTowbar: how long did killing Vashj and Kael take?
11:41.59Towbarvashj we learned in 3 or 4 raids
11:42.05Towbarkael was a different storey
11:42.09Towbar3 weeks min
11:42.22Towbaryea about 3 weeks
11:42.30Towbar1 week cleared SSC then worked on him
11:42.47Towbarother 2 was solid kael wipes
11:42.48Chomperswhat gear level Towbar?
11:42.53Towbarme?
11:42.58Chompersyour guild overall
11:43.06Towbar1 tank 4 part t5
11:43.11Towbarother tanks 3/5
11:43.22TowbarSSC we clear in one night now
11:43.24Chompersi'm just trying to find where my guild should be to kill stuff in ssc
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11:43.30Towbarthat a reference point?
11:43.37Towbar:/
11:43.51Towbar"["posX"] = -265.1025695800781,"
11:44.04JoshBorkelooks like an anchor point to me
11:44.04Towbari am guessing that is related to the position
11:44.10cladhaireMy guild has been working towards Vashj for .. months now =(
11:44.28Towbarclad: how far through are you?
11:44.46Chomperswe tried morro then gave up
11:44.48cladhaireumm
11:45.02cladhairei have to look, i dont raid with them anymore, being in rngland
11:45.04cladhaireengland
11:45.05GrumTowbar: how long of a night to clear SSC? 3-4 hrs?
11:45.05Chompersi can't believe the top guilds did it in gruul/kara gear
11:45.08JoshBorkelurker down!
11:45.21Towbargrum:8-12 ish
11:45.50Towbarso yea 4 hrs
11:46.00cladhaireon Sunday we allegedly did Leo, Wheelcrotch and Fathomlord
11:46.03cladhaireNot sure who's after that
11:46.29JoshBorkewtf is wheelcrotch?
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11:46.34cladhairelol
11:46.39Grummorrogrim
11:46.42Towbar:)
11:46.49Grumthat is a seriously stupid 'nickname' for him O.o
11:46.49dylanmAurora on my server is selling SSC epics... it's kinda disgusting :p
11:46.58Towbar10 mins of sinisters strikes, rupture and SnD :)
11:47.00Towbaryay
11:47.04nevcairieli never heard that nickname before o.O
11:47.09Towbarsuch a rivoting fight
11:47.11Grumme neither
11:47.14cladhairehttp://wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&1.21213#28948
11:47.18cladhairehow is it stupid
11:47.19Eggihow much do they wan't for ssc gear?
11:47.20cladhairelook at that picture :P
11:47.29nevcairieli know how he looks
11:47.32Towbarlol
11:47.35dylanmEggi: Hold on lemme find the list
11:47.37Grumi hope that is not where your crotch is O.o
11:47.39cladhairethat what my guild calls him :P
11:47.51cladhairelol
11:47.52nevcairielbut i guess you have to be native-english to get that one :P
11:47.58Grummore bellybutton than crotch ;D
11:48.04cladhairethey're canadian
11:48.06cladhairenot sure what to tell ya
11:48.19nevcairiellol
11:48.21cladhairei know they're weird
11:48.23cladhairebut i <3 em
11:49.10dylanmEggi: http://aurora-guild.com/zanzer.php
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11:50.04dylanmVash robe is sooo nice.
11:50.47Towbarwaiting so long for t5 head to drop I have gave up
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11:51.09Eggibest warlock robe
11:54.48neenee(Sounds like a stupid nickname to me too)
11:55.26dylanmHm?
11:56.01dylanmOh.
11:58.54dylanmAccurate, at least :p
12:00.20neeneeNo it isn't, as Grum mentioned.
12:01.18JoshBorkeinaccurately descriptive
12:03.50CIA-1203pettigrow * r52275 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: frFR Update (ty Khyaz)
12:05.34CIA-1203snago * r52276 10FuBar_NinjutFu/ (. FuBar_NinjutFu.toc embeds.xml):
12:05.34CIA-12FuBar_NinjutFu:
12:05.34CIA-12- Using embeds.xml for externals
12:05.34CIA-12- TOC -> 20200
12:05.39neeneecladhaire, is your guild called Clowns on Fire?
12:13.44CIA-1203nimbal * r52277 10Buffalo2_Dreamlayout/Dreamlayout.lua: Buffalo2_Dreamlayout: Buffs deserve fixing too, yes they do.
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12:20.57PkekyoShit happens when you party naked...
12:23.14Towbarlol
12:23.34kenlyricso many ways to interpret that.
12:23.44Ellipsisall of them entertaining
12:23.52kenlyricI wouldn't go that far.
12:24.07Ellipsiswell, I suppose it depends on your sense of humor =]
12:24.23kenlyricevery time I play portal I'm reminded of the Family Guy with kate moss
12:24.28kenlyric"Oops, crack in the floor"
12:25.42Pkekyofeel free to interpret any way you wish, kenlyric :)
12:27.49Ellipsisinteresting...
12:27.54CIA-1203nimbal * r52278 10Buffalo2_Dreamlayout/Dreamlayout.lua: Buffalo2_Dreamlayout: Stray "local"
12:28.15Ellipsissomeone on my MSN list has the name "LF15M WoW guild"
12:28.58kenlyricsilly pants
12:29.11kenlyricthe best gear in the game is in a 10 man, nuts to 25 mans!
12:30.08Ellipsisthen I guess he's actually done
12:31.39Wobin_So a sea giant walks into a bar with the wheel of a boat shoved down the front of his pants.
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12:31.53Wobin_The bartender says, Hey Moro, what's with the accessory?
12:32.00Wobin_He replies: Arrr, it's driving me nuts!
12:32.32kenlyricexcellent, though logistically questionable.
12:34.14JoshBorke~lart wobin
12:34.14purlruns at wobin with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut
12:34.38cladhaireneenee: yes, it is.. why?
12:35.43neeneecladhaire, I just looked up that 'wheelcrotch' thing you mentioned and found your guild stating they had killed him by that name
12:35.50cladhairehehe yeah
12:35.53cladhaire:P
12:36.10neenee:P
12:37.05Wobin_That's a great name =)
12:37.13Wobin_"Always entertaining"
12:37.17cladhairehehe
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12:40.05JoshBorkei'mma come join your guild clad :-P
12:40.17cladhairek k
12:40.45Balstordid halloween event start today?
12:41.32Pkekyodon't tell me beerfest is over?!
12:41.37Pkekyobrewfest, even
12:41.44Balstorokay I won't
12:42.16Pkekyo<PROTECTED>
12:42.16Pkekyogeif mah riding ram goddamnit!
12:42.46neenee:)
12:42.49neeneeI got mine
12:42.49Pkekyoanyone here using autobar with the waterfall config?
12:42.52neeneeBut I can't ride it yet
12:42.55Balstorit was a 2 week run
12:43.21neeneeYup, plenty of time :)
12:43.32Pkekyomeh, guess I'll save the brewfest tickets for next year then
12:43.36Ackismy server just reset and brewfest looked to be up
12:43.42PkekyoI was hardly home at all the last two weeks goddamnit
12:43.56neeneeabout 73 tickets each day for about 15 minutes playing
12:44.26Xinhuancan get about 100 tickets daily
12:44.27neeneeI doubt many players don't have 15 minutes somewhere :)
12:44.30harldephinthere've been slipping two gold spam messages through SpamSentry's filter today, though it's been about 100% reliable for weeks and more. sadly, i don't have those messages anymore.
12:44.30neeneeNot on my server
12:44.36neeneeThey disabled the dwarf event
12:44.48Pkekyoneenee: hardly -home- at all, not hardly playing
12:44.56Xinhuanneenee: you still can get 100 tickets a day
12:45.08neeneeXinhuan, doing what?
12:45.11neeneePkekyo, oki :)
12:45.14Xinhuan40 from the barket quest, and 36 per keg delivery quest
12:45.28Xinhuani assume you're capable of delivering 12 kegs
12:45.40Xinhuanand you can do the delivery twice a day (every 12 hours)
12:45.44neeneeer
12:45.47neeneeOh I see
12:45.51Xinhuanso 40+36+36 = 112 tickets a day
12:45.52neeneeI only did it once a day
12:46.09neeneeBut it was enough for the ram so I'm happy ;)
12:46.09Balstorblizzard and warriors == major dizconnect
12:46.54PkekyoBalstor: hmm?
12:47.26Pkekyonow what?
12:48.07Pkekyosomeone help me with zeh goddamn autobar plx
12:48.19neeneeSorry, I don't use autobar anymore
12:48.25neeneeBut just ask your question
12:48.26Balstorthey moved pur takent trees around to allow us " some extra options" yet after playing with the new talent trees we have fewer options
12:49.03Pkekyoafter the waterfall config came, I can't get keybindings done
12:49.14BalstorIn fact the summary of their change is , Made warriors stronger in PVP, Cut their dps by 5% on PVE, k tks
12:49.21PkekyoBalstor: they gave PvP warriors all they ever wanted, and nerfed fury dps :)
12:49.33dylanmShaddup and tank my 5-mans.
12:49.38dylanm:D
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12:50.16Ackisdoes anyone have a site/place that has good how-tos for specific frame elements? like how-to scroll bar, how-to status bar, etc?
12:50.21PkekyoI'm allready a tank so shutup yourself
12:50.23Balstornot really i already had all those talents while PVPing thats the irony, they made me stronger cause SS now works in fury so 2 oppents get on top of each other i will destroy you
12:50.32PkekyoAckis: w3schools?
12:50.53Balstoryhea I tank sun-thr (respec) then pvp for the weekend
12:51.23PkekyoI don't have alot of playtime anymore, so I can't respecc due to the pure cost of it
12:51.26AckisPkekyo thanks, i'll take a look at it
12:51.44Balstordailys gice 50 gold in about 35 minutes
12:52.01neeneeWhat Dailies?
12:52.27Pkekyoyeah, well, I don't have daily 35 min ingame
12:52.29CIA-1203snago * r52279 10Damnation/Damnation.toc:
12:52.29CIA-12Damnation:
12:52.29CIA-12- TOC -> 20200
12:52.31neeneeAh, I found a guild
12:52.32neeneeer
12:52.33neeneeguide
12:52.34neeneehttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/guides.html?guide=1020
12:52.48Xinhuanyou need a guide to do dailies?
12:52.53Balstor2 in skettis (22 gold) the take the free flight to blade's edge and there are 4 there (44 gold)
12:53.00Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Daily_quests
12:53.12neeneeHm
12:53.15neeneeMaybe I should try them
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12:53.22neeneeI'm about 100g away from my epic flying mount
12:53.27neeneeWoWWiki does not have a page with this exact name!
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12:53.28Xinhuanmy record is doing 10 dailies in 57 min for 132g
12:53.35neeneehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Daily_Quests works
12:53.51neeneeCan they be solo'ed?
12:53.55eviln1hi all
12:54.01Xinhuanthey can be soloed
12:54.03Balstoryhea yhey can be soloed
12:54.05Pkekyowtb access to netherwing quests
12:54.09Xinhuanbut if you solo them, it'll take about 80 min rather than 57
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12:54.14BalstorI solo them as a prot specced warrior
12:54.27Shinjahi
12:54.38Balstornaw , even soloing them the time goes up by maybe 8 minutes
12:54.40eviln1anyone that could give me some help with wowaceupdater.exe and the marvelous windows restrictrun feature ?
12:54.49Xinhuannah, cos to even compelte 10 dailies
12:54.56Xinhuanyou have to do at least 4 killing ones
12:54.56Shinjahey Xinhuan !
12:55.04Xinhuanor 3
12:55.05neeneeI'm a priest though
12:55.11neeneeholy/disc
12:55.14ShinjaI've just get a wowequip error :o
12:55.14neeneeBut I can try some
12:55.15Xinhuanit won't be an issue next patch
12:55.17Shinja[2007/10/16 14:52:48-1418-x1]: WoWEquip\WoWEquip.lua:2837: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
12:55.17ShinjaInterface\FrameXML\StaticPopup.lua:2284: in function `StaticPopup_OnClick':
12:55.17Shinja<string>:"*:OnClick":1: in function <[string "*:OnClick"]:1>
12:55.31Xinhuano_O
12:55.35Xinhuanon ptr or?
12:55.37Balstorahh the netherwing ones i can't do yet cause i don't have an epic mount, i can only do the basic 6
12:55.38Shinjalive
12:56.08Xinhuanwhat did you do
12:56.10Xinhuanto cause the error
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12:56.27ShinjaXinhuan: just remove the first saved template
12:57.21Xinhuanwhat does "comparing against" say
12:57.24Xinhuanon your screen
12:57.24Pkekyohttp://ace.pastey.net/75367 anyone able to tell what's wrong?
12:57.24CIA-1203andryk * r52280 10FuBar_AbramsFu/FuBar_AbramsFu.toc: FuBar_AbramsFu: Fixed a .toc problem with RequiredDeps
12:57.41ShinjaI don't know if VisualTheme is making trouble
12:57.45Xinhuanthe stuff next to the C button
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12:58.13ShinjaXinhuan: currently equiped gear
12:58.38Xinhuani can't reproduce it, if you check line 2837, its
12:58.39XinhuanWoWEquip_CompareText:SetText(WOW_EQUIP_COMPARING_TEXT..WoWEquip_CompareOptions[value].t);
12:58.53XinhuanOH
12:58.58Xinhuanvalue isn't defined :o
12:59.02Pkekyohuh....1k+ HS when dualwielding...purty :)
12:59.54Xinhuanok i'll fix the bug Shinja
13:00.00harldephineviln1: what's a "marvelous windows restrictrun feature" ?
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13:00.06Xinhuanbut atm its just a purely cosmetic thing
13:00.09eviln1it's a whitelist
13:00.11eviln1of executables
13:00.11Xinhuani.e no harm is done with that error
13:00.14eviln1that can be run
13:00.32ShinjaXinhuan, there's no error when I remove other template
13:00.33harldephinoh that one? ok. i don't use that.
13:00.47Xinhuanyep, because this error only occurs when you delete a profile you are "comapring against"
13:00.50Xinhuancomparing
13:00.53eviln1anyways
13:01.12eviln1i need to know what .exe i have to list there
13:01.25eviln1because wowaceupdater.exe byitself is not enough
13:01.40Xinhuanso if you're comparing against profile ABC and you delete ABC, it runs through that code section to reset it back to "don't compare"
13:02.02Xinhuanminor error :)
13:02.02ShinjaXinhuan, i didn't use these template to compare :o
13:02.24Xinhuanyou must have, because the code doesn't run through that code segment at all
13:02.30eviln1i have all the names of the .exe files in Microsoft.NET\Framework\ on the whitelist :x
13:02.42Ellipsisdon't argue Xinhuan, just fix the error and ask him to test ;P
13:02.46Xinhuan;p
13:03.37Pkekyogot this problem with autobar...after the waterfall config came, I can't get keybindings done... anyone able to help me?
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13:03.46ShinjaXinhuan, no because Midnight chestguard didn't drop yesterday but Netheshadow Tunic did =)
13:03.48Lothaerso who here has been to ZA yet?
13:04.06Balstorwow wow druids are going to destroy casters
13:04.20LothaerHunters get Disarm Shot....
13:04.26cryogenand MS shot
13:04.28cryogenand silence shot
13:04.31cryogenand ...
13:04.38eviln1what hunter really need  is cloak of shadows !
13:04.41eviln1:x
13:04.43Shinjaskill > shots =)
13:04.45cryogenoh and dispell
13:04.54kenlyricand can get 3 yards closer.
13:04.58Lothaerhunter the new OP class
13:05.18BalstorEquip: Cause your Maim ability to interrupt spellcasting and prevent any spell in that school from being cast for 3 sec.
13:05.24CIA-1203xinhuan * r52281 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Fix nil error on line 2387 when deleting profiles you are comparing against.
13:05.39Xinhuan^^
13:05.42cryogenBalstor: what/where is that?
13:05.54Lothaerhey guys ive been using SW_Stats for ages now and in the PTR it is now bugged and i dont think its gonna be updated too soon, what would u guys suggest i get as a replacement?
13:06.13Livid`recount is good
13:06.15BalstorSeason-3 glove bonus http://www.worldofraids.com/news/october/arena/druid/feral.jpg
13:06.20XinhuanLothaer, it isn't bugged
13:06.24cryogenbah.
13:06.25Lothaeryeah it is
13:06.27Xinhuanits just a single error on load
13:06.27cryogenthat sucks
13:06.29Xinhuanit still works
13:06.29Lothaeri was just htere
13:06.38Lothaeri got a error on load on the 2.3 PTR
13:06.45Xinhuanexactly, click the OK button
13:06.48Xinhuanand be done with it
13:06.51Xinhuaneverything else still works
13:06.59Xinhuanstill records/shows damage
13:07.06Wobin_I can't believe the disarm shot =P
13:07.08Lothaerit still needs to be fixe
13:07.09Lothaerd
13:07.10Wobin_It's like Green Arrow
13:07.12eviln1anyone got skills with .net and wowaceupdater ?
13:07.14Wobin_and his handcuff arrows =P
13:07.26harldephineviln1: just out of interst, which one of those eight dozen wowaceupdater.exe's did you add to that white list thing (data execution prevention)
13:07.27Xinhuanwell considering 2.3 isn't released yet, i'll say it doesn't need fixing
13:07.29Balstorevery druid in the game will wear those gloves
13:07.32Xinhuanuntil 2.3 is out
13:07.33Lothaerthanks though xin atleast i know it still works lol
13:07.42CIA-1203babu * r52282 10TrainingWheels/ (25 files in 4 dirs):
13:07.42CIA-12TrainingWheels: Initial commit
13:07.42CIA-12- Rock Addon that helps players determine what spells/actions to cast next.
13:08.02Xinhuan:o
13:08.05Xinhuantraining wheels?
13:08.06cryogen:o
13:08.12cryogenthat sounds cool :)
13:08.17Wobin_:o
13:08.19Babusamathats my addon lol
13:08.20Lothaeralso with oRA2 how do i hide/move the MT list from the middle of my screen? i cant for the life of me figure out how
13:08.30Balstorhas anyone tried the new omnicc ??
13:08.31eviln1harldephin > wowaceupdater.exe is added
13:08.33Xinhuancan you elaborate on "determine what spell to cast next" means?
13:08.37Lothaeri have
13:08.40Lothaerite very nice
13:08.45Lothaerthe new omnicc
13:08.53eviln1and when the restrictrun is off, it's the one that shows in the process manager
13:09.02cryogenwhats good about it? (the new omnicc)
13:09.11eviln1i figured that i had to add also stuff from Microsoft.NET\Framework
13:09.14neeneeIndeed, what makes it stand out to the old one?
13:09.17Lothaermore options beter control a new GUI
13:09.17Babusamait has rules to determine what to cast next.. ie spell cooldown, buff currently on target, life/health of target etc etc
13:09.23neeneeugh.
13:09.30Babusamaconfigurable
13:09.31neeneeI'm not a big fan of GUIs.
13:09.31Lothaerfont options
13:09.34Xinhuanif i'm a mage, what does the addon do?
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13:09.39Lothaerand it dosnt crash 2.3
13:09.40Xinhuanif i only just hit fireball
13:09.43cryogenwth does omnicc need a gui :p
13:09.57Lothaeradjust the size of the numbers etc
13:10.01neeneeAren't global font options good enough?
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13:10.02Babusamacan tell u to cast poly on ur focus and recast it when duration left around 5 seconds.. can help u keep ur scorch stack indefinitely
13:10.16Lothaeru can chge when they go red
13:10.21Babusamatell u when to use ur combustion ability/water elemental ie.. without looking at cooldown or buffs on target
13:10.21Lothaertry it and see for your self lol
13:10.22Wobin_I like ControlFreak for chain CC
13:10.27Xinhuanhmm
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13:10.45LukianBabusama, add support for the legion ring event? ;)
13:10.46Lothaerso about oRA2
13:11.05Babusamai managed to get it to put my whole shadowpriest spell damage cycle.. quite close to perfect of course it can never be as good as a human
13:11.10Lothaer"with oRA2 how do i hide/move the MT list from the middle of my screen? i cant for the life of me figure out how"
13:11.27Shinjaset number of tank to 0
13:11.35cryogenBabusama: does it work for tanks? :)
13:11.41Lothaeras reaid leader i have to set the MTs up
13:12.35Balstortry th classic (shift/alt/ctrl) (righ/left click) dance some combo works
13:12.35silentiumLothaer: there is a huge options section for MT frames, as long as they are unlocked you can move them with alt+click and drag&drop
13:12.35Lothaerthats just it
13:12.35Lothaerthe option is off but they wont move
13:12.35Balstoralso check the menu for a lock option, I know you can move just been a while since i did it
13:12.35Babusamait works for any class.. u just have to set the rules up
13:12.35Lothaerbrb
13:12.39Lothaergonna go try
13:12.41Babusamai included some basic rules for shadowpriests for u to load, and warlocks but warlock one is untested
13:12.48Balstorclick the text at the top not the bars
13:12.50Ellipsisthere was an issue with the alt-drag movement that was recently fixed, Lothaer - are you using the latest version?
13:13.06Lothaerofcoarse
13:13.12Xinhuanwasn't there some addon for tank
13:13.16cryogenah ok
13:13.19silentiumI think that alt-drag issue came from windowlib, which got fixed
13:13.23Xinhuanthat used to be able to one-button click tank?
13:13.27Balstorafk afk
13:13.28cryogenso you tell it how to tell you to do stuff
13:13.30Xinhuanit was able to logically determine
13:13.31cryogensounds decent
13:13.34Babusamatarget identifier can be target, player, pet, focus, mouseover.. so u can make it tell u to cast mend pte if ur pet doesnt have it and has life < 90%
13:13.36Xinhuanwhat spell to cast next to get max threat
13:13.39cryogenXinhuan: yes
13:13.41cryogenthere was :)
13:13.44Ellipsisinteresting concept, Babusama
13:15.51Xinhuanwtb US PTR pvp server to be up and running
13:16.04Babusamai needa setup the externals im following the svn for beginners guide @_@
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13:18.43CIA-1203babu * r52283 10TrainingWheels/:
13:18.43CIA-12TrainingWheels:
13:18.43CIA-12- Added externals, hopefully it works
13:20.14Lothaerthanks silentium and Elli
13:21.12Ellipsisoh poo, my main's server is down for maintenance =[
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13:22.32Lothaerlol
13:22.59Lothaerwhats Gratuity for?
13:23.52Xinhuanit appears to be a library used for tooltip scanning
13:24.03Lothaerits got a error on 2.3
13:24.28Xinhuani didn't get one
13:24.47dieckhm, I'm just trying to remember if there was anything in last years halloween event that is worth doing with my new chars now -- any tips? ;) I just missed the opportunity to get a ram, as I had no chance to get 600 tickets when I realised you can buy one :)
13:25.16Xinhuanyou can get some quest to do scarlet monastery
13:25.19Xinhuanand farm for some epic gear
13:25.23Xinhuanand a broom
13:25.35diecka flying broom?
13:25.41Xinhuanapparently so
13:25.49dieckwuhaa
13:25.57neeneeOnly usable for 14 days though
13:26.20CIA-1203babu * r52284 10TrainingWheels/ (. externals.txt):
13:26.20CIA-12TrainingWheels:
13:26.20CIA-12- Fixed externals, they should go to the Libs folder now.
13:26.30dieckneenee: sh**
13:26.38dieckneenee: but may be nice :)
13:26.52LothaerError: Gratuity-2.0: Atempt to call a nil value
13:26.59LothaerAddOn: Ace2
13:27.23LothaerFile: AceEvent-2.0.lua
13:27.25eviln1OK !
13:27.31eviln1i found a workaround for my problem
13:27.34LothaerLine: 735
13:27.39eviln1downgraded to 1.8 !
13:27.40LothaerCount: Infinite
13:27.41eviln1$$$
13:27.49Lothaerthats the error
13:29.15Arrowmasteri want to kill or destroy something really badly right now
13:29.22Arrowmaster2nd night in a row that i cant sleep
13:29.23Ellipsishm
13:29.26neeneedieck, it's a good thing or everyone would fly on brooms.
13:29.28durcynArrowmaster: yourself.
13:29.31EllipsisI has an aggro radius
13:29.59Arrowmasterdurcyn: without any sleep that doesnt sound like such a bad idea, i could atleast get some rest
13:30.03EllipsisI just ran my level 1 gnome out of shattrath and pulled two mobs immediately =[
13:31.43neeneeI wish they'd have guards there to instantly teleport sub 58 characters back to Azeroth
13:32.16Ellipsis=[
13:32.26Ellipsisbut it's my only alt on my old server...
13:32.46EllipsisI like to be able to get from city to city using a Shatt hearth =[
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13:33.31Recluseif you're power leveling your character, it makes no sense to have a shat hearth, but for casual players, it is wonderful to have the ability to travel like that, imho
13:33.44Ellipsispower leveling?
13:33.52KahlasEllipsis, playing 24/7
13:33.53EllipsisI only keep the alt around so I can chat with my old friends =[
13:34.03EllipsisI play my main if I want to actually play :P
13:34.08Recluseyeah, 1-70 in 7 days /played or whatever XD
13:34.19Ellipsisthis alt already has 3 days x.x
13:34.32EllipsisI'm a very social person!
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13:34.43Reclusei can't do faster than 12 days 1-70. i'm ashamed
13:34.54Babusamahow do you create changelogs in svn?
13:35.00Babusamaother than doing it manually
13:35.00cryogensvn log
13:35.08Lothaerwho wants to see the new Bear Mount from ZA???
13:35.18cryogenBabusama: there are programs that will reformat svn log output for you
13:35.33cryogen(i dont know how people do the changelogs that they distribute with their addons)
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13:35.53SunTsuLothaer: I really dislike those mounts. As a druid I am afraid somebody could try to saddle up me
13:36.00Recluselol
13:36.02cryogenheh
13:36.03Lothaerlol
13:36.09EllipsisBabusama: you might want to check out http://fish.wowace.com
13:36.43Lothaerhttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/bearmount.jpg its drops off the 1st boss if u can beat him with in 20mins
13:36.51Lothaerof entering ZA
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13:37.53Babusamaicic i guess they did the changelog by just copy and pasting tortoisesvn's log
13:38.04Babusamathought svn did it automatically when i commit lol
13:38.25Arrowmastersvn log > changelog.log
13:38.41Arrowmasterwhats this? a changelog!
13:40.21Babusamabut buttttt
13:40.21Babusamaim using tortoisesvn not command line T_T
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13:40.51EllipsisBabusama: if you mean the changelog in the zips downloaded from the files page, it's the svn->files script that adds those
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13:41.35Babusamawhat?
13:41.37Babusamawow
13:42.09Babusamaoh god you're right my addon showed the log
13:43.02Ellipsis=]
13:43.36Babusamanow advice how i can use svn correctly so that other people can develop and my users dont get screwed with unstable addons
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13:44.46Ellipsisif you are making changes that shouldn't be pushed to users, dev in branches
13:44.56Babusamause /trunk as stable release,.. /branches/../beta for pushing addon to release (only bugfixes), /branches/../alpha for feature updates??
13:44.57Babusamatoo much trouble?
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13:45.13Ellipsisthat's a lot more than most authors do, but whatever works for you
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13:48.43neeneeHm. Gore, or Bite, or both?
13:48.56kenlyricBabusama: make your users go to wowinterface if they want stable
13:49.05kenlyricneenee: are you Growling?
13:49.30kenlyricbite ONLY if you arent growling.
13:49.37neeneeI am growling
13:49.51kenlyricthen gore only.
13:50.16Babusamaa lot of people use WAU for updates.. im afraid if they use an unstable version they might end up with unusable data
13:50.21neeneeI'll turn off bite and see how that goes. I noticed that my pet ran out of focus quite a bit
13:50.52Babusamadoes WAU allow you to select a stable branch to choose from?
13:51.18kenlyricbefore you hit bestial discipline, you might consider bite and see how that works.
13:51.32kenlyricthe basic point is that your focus should never be full.
13:51.44kenlyricso a focus dump is good.
13:51.57neeneeI have Bestial Discipline
13:52.10nevcairielBabusama: no, currently it only supports /trunk .. what you put in there, is your choice. or the other devs choice. :)
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13:53.38kenlyricneenee: ravager or boar?
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13:53.52neeneeBoar
13:54.06neeneeRavagers have too little health for me
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13:55.04kenlyriccharge, gore, max armor, then fill out stamina. your tankiest friend.
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13:55.17kenlyricyou can get dash on top of charge, but that just seems like overkill
13:55.26neeneeYup, I have that and Cobra Reflexes
13:55.30neeneeYes, I won't do that
13:55.54kenlyricif considerd dash + bestial swifteness + charge for pvp just for giggles
13:55.58kenlyric*i've
13:58.00neeneeI have Bestial Swiftness too
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14:02.13Pkekyogot this problem with autobar...after the waterfall config came, I can't get keybindings done... anyone able to help me?
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14:03.23Kalman|~seen Roartindon
14:03.26purlroartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-173-106.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 26m 16s ago, saying: 'Oh well, it's what we ended up with :)'.
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14:11.49ChiLLabiSWhat's the name of the addon there u change the regular textformat/textlook to the text from Diablo ?
14:13.04ArrowmasterClearFont2?
14:13.14neeneeThere are various font-altering addons to which you can add fonts yourself. If they contain the font used in Diablo by default, I do not know. Try Clearfont2 as Arrowmaster suggested :)
14:13.26Ellipsistl;dr
14:13.30neeneeThere's a separate font-pack for ClearFont2 too, try that too
14:13.38Ellipsis(sorry neenee)
14:13.42ChiLLabiSok ty
14:13.55neeneetl;dr?
14:14.00neeneeWhat does that mean?
14:14.14Arrowmastertoo long didnt read
14:14.14Ellipsis"too long; didn't read"
14:14.17neeneeAh okay
14:14.28neeneeWell, it's a good thing you didn't ask the question then :)
14:14.32Ellipsisheh
14:14.41art3miswas there maint today?
14:14.44Ellipsisjust saying, your response was pretty long-winded coming directly after Arrowmaster's
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14:16.12Ellipsisart3mis: rolling restarts on most servers, maint on a few
14:16.40Arrowmasterbbiab, hate having to restart to switch system languages to install non english software
14:16.41Ellipsisall of them should be (theoretically) up now
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14:23.29neeneekenlyric, thanks for the info - I toggled bite and I am not noticing a decrease in DPS, while I rarely run out of focus, while still using most of it.
14:23.40neeneeAs opposed to being on 0 a lot
14:24.27kenlyricone timered focus ability and one dump is enough.
14:25.03kenlyricthough when your crit gets high enough and you have go for the throat, you might consider bring bite back.
14:26.43Bibioh, aperture is all broken in 2.3
14:26.45Bibime is sad
14:27.05neeneeThat's a while off though
14:27.13neeneeI'm just level 59 now
14:30.43CIA-1203samuelcup * r52285 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.zhCN.lua:
14:30.43CIA-12FuBar_FriendsFu
14:30.43CIA-12updated translation for Rogue
14:33.57Lukiando hunter pets have less total training points if they already have abilities?
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14:35.14kenlyricno.
14:35.28kenlyricyou've just already spent the pointts on those abilities
14:35.34kenlyricso if you don't want them, you need to unlearn them.
14:36.54Pkekyogot this problem with autobar...after the waterfall config came, I can't get keybindings done... anyone able to help me?
14:38.59Trell_Pkekyo - just set them in blizz's keybindings section near the bottom
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14:42.45Pkekyofinally!
14:42.46Pkekyotried to get that answer for two days now
14:44.24Pkekyocheers Trell_, appreciated
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14:46.04CIA-1203alar * r52286 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua): !AlarLib WowAce dependencies rules and me argued a lot.. but I hope now I fixed them!
14:46.43CIA-1203alar * r52287 10AlarArtRemover/AlarArtRemover.lua: AlarArtRemover WowAce dependencies rules and me argued a lot.. but I hope now I fixed them!
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14:47.15CIA-1203alar * r52288 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): AlarAutomation WowAce dependencies rules and me argued a lot.. but I hope now I fixed them!
14:47.55Reclusehrm, can you create a function inside a function in lua? (just curious)
14:48.18durcynmust suppress urge to choke this 'alar' guy
14:49.13Lukiankenlyric, you can 'unlearn' pet abilites?
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14:49.22kenlyricyour pet can
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14:49.26kenlyrictalk to the pet trainer
14:49.32tunderofnlhi can someone help me whit something?
14:49.32Lukianoh cool
14:49.38Lukiankenlyric, ty :)
14:49.44tunderofnlwhit a addon config
14:49.49durcyn~asktoask
14:49.49purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
14:49.59tunderofnlkk purl
14:50.54tunderofnli want to add a thing that auto sets the level to go im making a autogratzer so i want to make a line like this good job name only .... levels to go
14:51.01tunderofnlsomeone know how i can get this in it?
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14:51.49SunTsutunderofnl: I wonder what your sentence meant
14:52.06tunderofnl.....
14:52.12tunderofnlim not verry good in englise
14:52.15tunderofnlso ....
14:52.30CIA-1203alar * r52289 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc): AlarBGHelper WowAce dependencies rules and me argued a lot.. but I hope now I fixed them!
14:52.51tunderofnllike this good job tunderofnl you only got 28 levels to go!
14:52.56tunderofnli want something like that
14:53.06Reclusetunderofnl: try UnitLevel()?
14:53.13tunderofnllets try
14:53.28CIA-1203alar * r52290 10AlarTTFrame/AlarTTFrame.lua: AlarTTFrame WowAce dependencies rules and me argued a lot.. but I hope now I fixed them!
14:55.04tunderofnlnope dont work i think i must add a function but dont know how to make it
14:55.40Reclusetunderofnl - make sure you pass in the name like playerLevel = UnitLevel("Recluse") or whoever it is (i think that's how it's called XD)
14:56.05tunderofnl:O
14:56.12tunderofnlkk lets try
14:57.25tunderofnldont work i done it like this
14:57.35tunderofnlunitlevel("..arg2..")
14:57.38dylanmIs this someone in your guild?
14:57.45tunderofnlyeah
14:57.59tunderofnlthis it the line its in dutch but maybe you can help me
14:58.03tunderofnlSendChatMessage("Gratz "..arg2.."! goed gedaan nog maar unitlevel("..arg2..") te gaan! =D ","GUILD");
14:58.20Reclusetry UnitLevel(arg2) - make sure you capitalize the U and L in UnitLevel
14:58.37cryogenUnitLevel also needs to be outside of quotes
14:59.01Recluseooo, good catch XD i didn't look over the quote sequence
14:59.02tunderofnllol
14:59.20tunderofnlbut how it gets the name then
14:59.34dylanmUnitName
14:59.37XinhuanUnitLevel() only accepts arguments of a valid UnitID
14:59.42dylanmSurpriseee
14:59.51dylanmYou'll have to use GetGuidRosterInfo
14:59.52dylanmI think
15:00.17Xinhuana valid UnitID is one such as "player" "target" "pet" "party1", "party2", "raid36", etc
15:00.23Xinhuannot a player name
15:00.23dylanmWhich is a whole world of pain
15:00.34dylanmNot really pain but you kinda have to iterate over the whole thing
15:00.35CIA-1203speeddymon * r52291 10FuBar_tTracker/FuBar_tTracker.lua:
15:00.35CIA-12FuBar_tTracker:
15:00.35CIA-12- Check for UnitClass("player") == "DRUID" so that the correct tracking will show when using track humanoids in cat form
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15:00.57tunderofnllol
15:01.30Reclusemake sure to subtract UnitLevel from 70, or that code would just send the current level :p
15:01.30cryogenno doubt there is some lib that makes this easier
15:01.54dylanmSo what I'm gathering is that you want to figure out whenever someone in your guild levels and then print a slightly detailed "congratulations Dutch guy" message?
15:02.11cryogenthats what he wants, aye
15:02.16cryogenbut not levels
15:02.18tunderofnlno if he say ding\
15:02.19cryogenjust says "gz"
15:02.23cryogenuh yeah ding
15:02.52manyon levelup say finh
15:02.59manyon ding say gz
15:03.17tunderofnlif he say ding i want that the addon auto say gratz good job only .... levels to go
15:03.39dylanmOhhhh so you're watching for a chat event.
15:03.49tunderofnl-.-
15:03.54Recluselol
15:03.58tunderofnlyeah =p
15:04.08cryogeni think he has the event bit sorted, though
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15:04.18Xinhuanuh its not easy
15:04.27Xinhuanhe has to scan the entire list of members online in his guild
15:04.38Xinhuanextract the name and ID and get the level from there
15:04.39tunderofnl..... why?
15:04.41dylanmYeah.
15:04.51tunderofnli just want to know the levels that he must go
15:04.52Xinhuanbecause you can't supply Unitlevel a player name
15:04.53tunderofnl=p
15:04.57cryogen~api GetGuidRosterInfo
15:04.58purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGuidRosterInfo
15:05.04tunderofnlkk
15:05.05Xinhuanyou need to extract it from the guild list
15:05.20Xinhuanthe issue is more complicated if you have never opened your guildpane before
15:05.25Xinhuansince login
15:05.30Xinhuansince you'll have to issue an Update command first
15:05.36manyor an l
15:05.36Xinhuanto the server, to send you back guildlist details
15:05.41dylanmThat's not so hard
15:05.41Xinhuanthen in response to that
15:06.02cryogeni just copied it from dylanm :p
15:06.04Xinhuancheck the guildlist for the required person, check his level, then deduct that from 70
15:06.06manyhe needs to update anyway
15:06.19Xinhuani.e your simple mod isn't going to be simple ;p
15:06.22tunderofnlthe link dont work
15:06.24CIA-1203speeddymon * r52292 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.toc:
15:06.24CIA-12XLootMonitor:
15:06.24CIA-12- Bump TOC to 2.2. No changes have been made other than the toc change, as workarounds exist to fix the stretched loot frames issue, including resetting your profile to defaults
15:06.34cryogenyeah put an 'l' in there
15:06.37nevcairielsimple ideas always turn out as complex code *shrug
15:07.04dylanmJust call GuildRoster() at the start :p
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15:07.10manyhavent had coffee all fay
15:07.17manyday :/
15:07.25Reclusei need to brew pot #2
15:07.37dylanmBah I need to get started on my coffee as well.
15:07.45manydentist fforbid mr
15:07.52manyme
15:08.02RecluseD= that's not fair
15:08.08tunderofnlcan not anyone config it for me =p i just use it for personal use =p
15:08.19tunderofnldont put it on curse or somewhere =p
15:08.26durcynuh, no.
15:08.32tunderofnldamn =p
15:08.41dylanmI think someone's made an auto-grats type mod.
15:08.43Xinhuanno, because its about 1-2 hours of code ;p
15:08.44dylanmAt some point.
15:08.50Xinhuanto do this simple autograts thing
15:08.59dylanmSo you could use that or modify it.
15:09.00Xinhuaneven for experienced coders
15:09.10dylanmProbably easier than starting from scratch.
15:09.18dylanmI don't remember the name but I remember lol'ing at it.
15:09.21Reclusehttp://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=3861
15:09.47tunderofnli had that one but its very slow!
15:09.59tunderofnlif someone can help me get it faster...... then i can do it
15:10.03Xinhuanand its slow because it has to lookup the guildlist
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15:10.12manyhehe
15:10.13Xinhuanto get the level
15:10.22Xinhuanof the player that said "ding"
15:10.30tunderofnl-.- then i just use my own =p
15:10.39Xinhuanyou can't, its the only way lol
15:10.39manyding
15:10.46tunderofnlty guys for helping me a litle bit -D
15:10.47tunderofnl=p
15:10.56tunderofnlg2g now bye =)
15:11.01Xinhuan^_^
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15:12.50dylanmHow could that mod be "slow"?
15:12.58Reclusegrats many! :p
15:13.12manyhehe
15:13.25Reclusea friend of mine had one of the autograts addons, and it took anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes to reply
15:13.33Xinhuanits slow, probably because people can type "grats" as a response, faster that the mod can get a response from "UpdateGuildRoster()"
15:13.41dylanmHah
15:14.02Reclusei assumed it was intentional so no one would know you were too lazy to grats them yourself XD
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15:14.11dylanmSuch a bad idea
15:14.17manygrats, somethung between 1 and 70 levels to go!
15:14.46Xinhuanwe had someone install that mod
15:14.49Xinhuaneveryone said DING
15:14.55Xinhuanand he was spammed
15:14.57Recluserofl
15:15.13Xinhuanthen logged on their alts, and said ding
15:15.22manydiscoed i hope
15:15.23cryogenjust do what normal people do
15:15.26Xinhuansince the mod records whether it has said grats for everyone ni the guild
15:15.31Xinhuanfor every level
15:15.33cryogenand make a macro
15:15.42cryogenthat spams a huge multi line ASCII gz
15:15.48durcynor just don't encourage idiots to announce their levels
15:15.49cryogeni love those
15:15.52manyhah
15:16.00dylanmSeriously.
15:16.04durcynand don't encourage other idiots to congratulate them
15:16.05cryogen16:16 /bin/sh: line 1: figlet: command not found
15:16.07cryogendamnit.
15:16.31dylanmI'll say "hey that's great" if someone gets a new epic or something they've been wanting
15:16.33manyyou are so nongnu
15:16.46dylanmBeyond that...
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15:17.12dylanm"Hey you played the game a little while! Congratulations!"
15:17.57cryogeni hate grumpy people like you :(
15:18.02cryogenwhy even join a guild!
15:18.02manyapologies rather
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15:20.46dylanmBecause I need a reliable bunch of people to take damage while I mind flay some hos.
15:22.05manylay dem
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15:27.54SilowyiI love mixed blessing
15:27.56Silowyis
15:28.04Silowyiso... check this out...
15:28.20Silowyimy mom breaks her wrist last week
15:28.29Silowyiwhich means she's down and out
15:28.52Silowyithis week due to an unfortunate series of events I'd rather not recount, my car ends up with transmission fluid in the brake line.
15:29.05Silowyihowever, since mom's wrist is broken, she won't be driving for another 3 months or so
15:29.31Silowyi(oh yes, my car also has a transmission leak, and its not worth replacing)
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15:29.46Silowyibut, I can use my mom's car for three months cause she won't be driving it.
15:30.46SilowyiAnd the serindipitus way that this all occured means that even though I was stranded at an Arby's 10 miles away from home, I'm not going to miss a single raid or PvP night since I had a friend's mom nearby.
15:30.58Silowyierr I "didn't miss" rather
15:31.32Silowyiit doesn't sound like much the way I described it... but basically, an amazing number of things worked out just right with this breakdown.
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15:54.05simlanIs anyone willing to answer some of my question regarding external? Please /w me :)
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15:57.29CIA-1203speeddymon * r52293 10TweakHub_Merchant/TweakHub_Merchant.lua:
15:57.29CIA-12TweakHub_Merchant:
15:57.29CIA-12- Fix for line 78: attempt to compare nil with number when opening the window at Tharynn Bouden in Goldshire
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16:04.50neeneeDid blizzard insert some way to see how the addon memory is used? I can mouse-over the latency indicator, and it does show some info, but only for three addons in my case.
16:06.12Tornhoofgarbagefu has a list
16:06.19Tornhoofand yes they support it since 2.1 or something
16:06.29Tornhoofeh blah, performancefu
16:06.58neeneeHm
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16:07.28neeneeI'll try to find a standalone thing first
16:09.48Trell_!p Hi-Tech Supergun
16:09.49neeneeFound something. AddonUsage
16:09.49ThraeBotTrell_: Name: Hi-tech Supergun; Vendor: 36s 32c; Deposit (24h): 21s 79c; Auction (All): 14g; Disenchant (All): 95s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]]
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16:10.35neeneehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7362-AddonUsage.html :)
16:10.37neeneeTrying that first
16:11.07Reclusevista cd burning boggles me. it creates a "live filesystem" by default on my cdr's which shouldn't even be possible since they are not rw...
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16:11.24silentiumsimlan: with externals means the addon brings all libs it needs embedded, multiple addons using the same lib mean a bit longer loading time on login and larger update downloads than just one instance of the lib (but no higher memory usage in total) - without externals means the addons dont bring the needed libs so you have to install them as separate addons, but addons dont need to get updated every time one of the libs gets up
16:11.40Tornhoofrecluse it's a mapping only , data is stored in temp
16:12.16SynnethIs there any way to interact/talk with an npc you have targetted without having to right click on them?
16:12.19Reclusewell, oddly, even when it does the "live filesystem" i can still use the disc on another computer o.O
16:12.26Tornhoofyeh
16:12.31Tornhoofas i said a mapping only
16:12.33silentiummeh, he went off while I was typing -_-
16:12.54Ellipsisget some freaking pet frames and do your job, people
16:13.09silentiumgrid doesnt have pet frames by default ;p
16:13.14Ellipsisthis is a 5man.
16:13.30Tornhoofpets are not healed
16:13.46Ellipsisif you want my succubus to keep that mob off of you, you better keep her alive
16:13.54Ellipsisdo your part, heal the CCing pet =]
16:14.38si-m1i'm gonna start using only one succy if people want it.. and if it dies, replace seduce with fear then maybe people will start healing it
16:14.43RecluseTornhoof: So basically if you don't change the default burn method and your drive crashes, you have no backups, right? :p
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16:14.53Tornhoofyou have
16:15.00Tornhoofsomewhere in some tepm dir
16:15.03Ellipsislol si-m1, good plan
16:15.08Tornhoofah if that drive crashes
16:15.27Tornhoofwindows vista finalizes the cd (e.g. burns it) after awhile only or something
16:15.32Tornhoofit is documented somewhere
16:15.42Ellipsisexcept I can't really be annoying right now, mostly guild group and I'm new to the guild...wouldn't want to give them the wrong impression
16:16.07RecluseI changed the option for personal use, it's just strange to me that they would do that to consumers - course, what do you expect form M$? lol
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16:16.22Tornhoofwell it's common behavior
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16:16.38Tornhoofyou don't want to burn it directly since most consumers will change the files several times
16:16.46Lemminghello all
16:16.48Tornhoofso a mapping an delayed burning is pretty fine
16:17.11Ellipsiserm
16:17.24Ellipsisif I'm understanding you guys correctly, burning a CD with Vista doesn't burn anything to the CD?
16:17.30Tornhoofit does
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16:17.38Tornhoofjust not instantly depending on mode
16:17.46Tornhoofif you drag&drop something on the cd
16:17.46silentiumit has been default behaviour to hide file extensions ever since win95, what do you expect? ;)
16:17.54Ellipsisheh
16:18.11Lemmingim a beginner programmer, and im in need of some help. How can i use colors for my chat text. and where can i find documentation about it?
16:18.18Ellipsiswhat drives me crazy is that some extensions are *still* hidden after you disable that
16:18.45silentiumand winXP doesnt instantly burn on drag&drop either, but I dont know anyone who does NOT use a proper burning program anyway
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16:19.18CIA-1203sayclub * r52294 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua:
16:19.18CIA-12.Outland:
16:19.18CIA-12- koKR typo fix
16:19.39Daemonawhat did toadkiller do with autobar?
16:19.54Lemminganybody knows how i can do that?
16:20.29Daemonai wiped my settings and i cant even configure it to fill from left to right if a category has no item in it.
16:21.06TornhoofFontInstance::SetTextColor or something lemming
16:21.09Tornhoofgo check wowwiki
16:21.22Lemmingok ty
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16:26.47Trell_!p Mechbuilder's Ovralls
16:26.47ThraeBotTrell_: that is not the item you're looking for!
16:26.49Trell_!p Mechbuilder's Overalls
16:26.50ThraeBotTrell_: Name: Mechbuilder's Overalls; Vendor: 23s 42c; Deposit (24h): 14s 5c; Auction (All): 12g 95s; Disenchant (All): 26s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]]
16:27.33Lemminghmmm, what I am looking for is a way to change color of 1 or more words that i send to the chat screen. i know its a code something like for example:  |cffeda55fCircle|r but i have no idea how that first part is generated. possible RGBA
16:27.52XinhuanLemming: its ARGB
16:28.31Lemmingis there a color picker somewhere that will tell me the code for the color i choose?
16:28.41Xinhuanno
16:28.43Xinhuanconvert yourself
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16:29.04CIA-1203nimbal * r52295 10Buffalo2_Dreamlayout/Dreamlayout.lua: Buffalo2_Dreamlayout: Debuff border coloring corrected
16:29.07Lemminghow? :P
16:29.15Xinhuanits just a hex number
16:29.27Xinhuanfirst 2 letters is the Alpha
16:29.31Xinhuannext 2 letters is the red, etc
16:29.32Ellipsisany image editing program will work, or the ingame color pickers in Rock or with EnhancedColourPicker
16:30.00Xinhuanyeah ellispe, but he wants to use it in his code, the only way si to convert himself
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16:30.35Lemmingok, think i understand what you mean Xinhuan
16:30.43Ellipsiser, most image software gives hex strings for html :P
16:31.01Xinhuani believe he wants to have a color picker option in his addon
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16:31.05Xinhuanso the user selects a color
16:31.07Lemmingno
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16:31.32Lemmingi just want to figure out what code red is for example or yellow, green, like that
16:31.51Xinhuanred would be |cFFFF0000
16:31.52Xinhuaneasy?
16:32.00Tornhoofyou might want to learn how rgb works ;)
16:32.08Xinhuanalpha is 1, red is 1, green is 0 and blue is 0
16:32.26durcynroses are FF0000, violets are 0000FF, and i forget the rest of this rhyme
16:32.34Lemminglol
16:32.35RecluseLemming -> http://www.febooti.com/products/iezoom/online-help/online-color-chart-picker.html
16:32.53Lemmingyay \o/ ty Recluse
16:33.39nevcairielwow i need to link that :P
16:33.57Recluselol
16:34.21Xinhuani never bookmark things that are easily google-able ;p
16:34.39rob`but what if google goes offline?
16:34.46rob`*half the channel falls over in convulsions*
16:34.51Xinhuanhahah
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16:35.15kenlyricoh gods!
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16:35.17Lemminglol
16:35.24CIA-1203cronan * r52296 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
16:35.24CIA-12Babble-2.2:
16:35.24CIA-12- Fix koKR typo
16:35.25Recluseyou know, it's scary that that is a scary thought
16:35.30kenlyricgoogle has my mail, my docs, my bookmarks, and my seed.
16:35.44Xinhuanseed?
16:35.46rob`it has a picture of my house from orbit, too :(
16:35.55rob`google knows where you live.
16:36.00cncfanaticsnevcairiel, would you mind if I ripped the pet bar module out of bartender and made that a standalone mob ?
16:36.04cncfanaticss/mob/mod/
16:36.35Balstorhow much gold is this mob dropping???
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16:36.50nevcairielcncfanatics: the petbar module is like not-existint in bartender, it only moves the blizzard petbar, and does poorly at it, too.
16:36.55Mudkipsnow all that google needs to do is pair up with mcdonalds
16:36.58Mudkipsfor world domination
16:38.42cncfanaticsnevcairiel, ah, might code something then, also moving the blizz petbar though, easyest & most performant way
16:38.58BalstorHallow's End Recipe Contest !!!!
16:39.06nevcairieli wanted to recode it to create its own petbar buttons for a while now
16:39.08nevcairielbut no time
16:39.15Lemmingallright im going back to doing :)
16:39.33cncfanaticsnevcairiel, why bother creating ur own though ? any advantages in BT for it ?
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16:40.32BalstorOMG
16:40.39BalstorRecipe: Stupid Smile
16:40.51nevcairielnot really, i just feel dirty with all this hooking
16:41.13Silviu-~seen Nimbal
16:41.14purlnimbal <n=chatzill@p5488CEE5.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 5h 14m 58s ago, saying: 'I'm brooding over a complementary addon for Buffalo2 in which the user can click custom buff containers together. And I'm wondering if it makes sense to allow the user to make a container that contains buffs from several unitids'.
16:41.14durcynprostitution isn't the noblest profession, sylvanaar.
16:42.08BalstorRecipe: Stupid Smile  They say this is in game but i can't see how: Use: Each time you hit in melee, you have a chance to make a stupid smile at your enemy, dazing him for 1 sec.
16:42.27Recluselol
16:43.24Balstorso a rogue could perma daze you ....
16:43.55Recluseno % given. could be insanely minute
16:44.15Brunershow much rep do a normal black morass give?
16:44.22Reclusewell, back to leveling
16:44.39Balstoryhea but high end rogues have attack speeds around .40
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16:47.48LukianBruners, http://www.wowreputationcalculator.com
16:49.41CIA-1203babu * r52297 10TrainingWheels/ (SpellFrame.lua TrainingWheels.lua):
16:49.41CIA-12TrainingWheels:
16:49.41CIA-12- Added WAU file, hopefully it works.
16:49.41CIA-12- Fixed a minor bug with spells with no icons showing "ghost" icons.
16:49.41CIA-12- Changed the default latency to 0.1 second.
16:50.56CIA-1203cronan * r52298 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Halazzi.lua Malacrass.lua Zul'jin.lua): BigWigs: ZulAman koKR update
16:51.11BrunersLukian: thanks
16:51.13CIA-1203cronan * r52299 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ZulAman/Zuljin.lua:
16:51.13CIA-12Threat-1.0:
16:51.13CIA-12- Zul'jin koKR update
16:54.18RaydenUnicyclistwowarmory is down?
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16:57.53simlanThe externals that WoWAce use, is this a SVN feature?
16:58.05|Kev|yes
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16:58.20RaydenUnicyclistugh
16:58.21|Kev|svn externals are a reference from one repository to another
16:58.27sag_ich_nichtwhere is funky
16:58.31sag_ich_nichti have to kick him in the balls
16:58.33sag_ich_nichtmultiple times
16:58.52RaydenUnicyclistmy guild ran KZ last night with 9 people, first run so they only downed the first boss. But this boss dropped two items that only the warlock could use!!! i'm a shadowpriest :(
16:59.27simlanSo if I write an addon that uses ACE libs, I should not include the libs in the addon folder, but I should use these externals, right?
16:59.31sag_ich_nichthe needs to stop fucking with the toc of SharedMedia because of some framexml error when mymedia isn't in use
16:59.31sag_ich_nichtchrist
16:59.47sag_ich_nichthe should just create a empty mymedia.lua if it bothers him so much
16:59.59sag_ich_nichtinstead of breaking sharedmedia for everyone EVERY SINGLE COMMIT
17:00.15sag_ich_nicht*an empty
17:01.22silentiumit's "Ace", not "ACE". it's not an acronym
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17:01.59durcynsag_ich_nicht: ctfd
17:02.59Ellipsiswhatever that means, I agree
17:03.29durcyncalm the frack down, of course
17:03.33durcynso high strung.
17:03.47Ellipsisbut that's why he's funny to watch
17:04.23Ellipsisyou ever sit and watch a dog very energetically running in circles chasing his own tail?
17:04.39RaydenUnicyclistwhat's a good mod for recording statistics from a dungeon run and then outputting to html or something for review later?
17:06.06durcynRaydenUnicyclist: /combatlog + wowwebstats.com
17:07.00ulicor if you find yourself forgetting to turn on combatlog use LoggerHead to do it for you.
17:07.36RaydenUnicyclistwhy is the armory down?
17:07.56Ellipsisbecause Blizzard hates you
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17:09.09durcyni turned armory off, sorry, sorry.  tripped over the power cord.
17:09.32Ellipsisargh, it was you this time?
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17:09.43RaydenUnicyclistcombatlog isn't ace is it?
17:09.56RaydenUnicyclistsimplecombatlog?
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17:11.09|Stan|RaydenUnicyclist: it is
17:12.26Fisker-hahah
17:12.29RaydenUnicyclisti can't find CombatLog on wowace.com but i did find that simplecombatlog
17:12.30Fisker-fucking owned sag_ich_nicht
17:12.31Fisker-After further discussion and testing we’ve decided to add threat reduction deep in the paladin's retribution tree. Fanaticism will now reduce threat caused by all actions by 6/12/18/24/30%, in addition to its current effect
17:12.36Fisker-THREAT REDUCTION
17:12.37Fisker-OWNED
17:12.56Ellipsislulz
17:13.31Ellipsisnow you can stop being emo!
17:13.35Ellipsis...well...sorta
17:14.02charonand here i was, thinking fanatism meant an increased threat. might just be terrorism rhetorics though
17:14.10charon*fanaticism
17:14.32Ellipsissince when do talent names have to make sense?
17:14.38durcynFisker-: link
17:14.51Fisker-no u
17:14.52Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366553374&postId=23663518766&sid=1#0
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17:21.31CIA-1203stan * r52300 10cyCircled_VolM/cyCircled_VolM.toc:
17:21.31CIA-12cyCircled_VolM:
17:21.31CIA-12- fix
17:21.50KeiasVolM? o_O
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17:22.08|Stan|Vol without the gloss
17:22.18Keiasooooh
17:23.05CIA-1203prudence * r52301 10Assessment/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
17:23.05CIA-12Assessment:
17:23.05CIA-12- Update french translation
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17:30.16CIA-1203prudence * r52302 10GemList/GemList.toc:
17:30.16CIA-12GemList:
17:30.16CIA-12- update toc number
17:30.34ChompersFisker-
17:30.41CIA-1203prudence * r52303 10FruityLoots/FruityLoots.toc:
17:30.41CIA-12FruityLoots:
17:30.42CIA-12<PROTECTED>
17:30.43Fisker-charon
17:30.45Fisker-Chompers
17:30.52Chompersany blue posts about moving enrage to the arms tree for warriors?
17:31.02Fisker-nope
17:31.08Chompersyou make me sad
17:31.08Fisker-but start making several thousand threads about it
17:31.10Fisker-and it might work
17:31.37charonFisker-: no u
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17:34.23Fisker-OMG OMG
17:34.27Fisker-Rolling Restarts maintanence
17:37.48buuZOWIE WHAT?!
17:39.30rob`bleh, I'm having so much trouble getting past wave 70
17:39.33rob`mistell
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17:40.40EricaHi... have a quick question about Prat.  I'm trying to remove the border on the edit box but it returns after I relog
17:41.47EricaI know that features were changed for the edit box recently... any ideas?
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17:43.07rob`hey, retribution paladins are getting a 30% talented threat reduction.
17:43.26Ellipsisl2scroll up :P
17:43.28durcynold news, sorry pal.
17:43.34rob`old meme?  ;.;
17:43.41sag_ich_nicht[19:12] <Fisker-> After further discussion and testing we’ve decided to add threat reduction deep in the paladin's retribution tree. Fanaticism will now reduce threat caused by all actions by 6/12/18/24/30%, in addition to its current effect <--LINK
17:44.14Pkekyowhat race and class does Thrazéen sound like?
17:44.16Ellipsisgb2forums w/ ur old news
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17:44.19Fisker-old news sag_ich_nicht
17:44.24sag_ich_nichtLINK D:
17:44.30Ellipsissag_ich_nicht, he gave the link
17:44.33sag_ich_nichtoh wait
17:44.34sag_ich_nichtthere
17:44.57Fisker-now start complaining about holy
17:44.58Fisker-please
17:45.01Ellipsislulz
17:45.25Ellipsisk guys I have a difficult choice to make and I could really use some advice
17:46.04Pkekyosure, shoot!
17:46.05Megalondoing anal will earn you more money in the business
17:46.26Ellipsisdo I go back to camping /lfg and end up in yet another crappy pug which will result in much *headdesk*, or do I just go play the Portal challenges?
17:46.35Towbarany tips for shade of akama?
17:47.28PkekyoEllipsis: portal challenges any day...
17:47.31charonEllipsis: go back to camping /g for a crappy non-pug and even more headdesk
17:47.32Pkekyoand remember: TEH CAKE IS ALIE
17:47.32sag_ich_nichtI LOVE YOU ALL
17:47.44sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: go to /lfg, but armory everyone.
17:47.47sag_ich_nichtthat's what i do
17:47.49sag_ich_nichtworks everytime.
17:48.11Ellipsissag_ich_nicht, your server might have enough people to choose from, but mine sure doesn't
17:48.19sag_ich_nichtno, my server doesn't.
17:48.22sag_ich_nichti still do it
17:48.24sag_ich_nichtand it works.
17:48.26sag_ich_nichtD:
17:48.29Ellipsisusually /lfg gives me a list of 2 warlocks, a hunter, and a shadowpriest
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17:48.40sag_ich_nichtspam in /2
17:48.42sag_ich_nichtlike everyone does
17:48.44sag_ich_nichtit's idiotic
17:48.45sag_ich_nichtand stupid
17:48.47sag_ich_nichtbut it works.
17:48.49Ellipsisugh
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17:50.20MecdemortAnyone have a neat idea for a HUD's name before I just call my mod MecHUD? ;p
17:50.37EllipsisI don't care as long as I can has
17:50.38PkekyoMecdemort: how does it look?
17:50.40Ellipsis=]
17:50.42MudkipsEllipsis
17:50.45EllipsisMudkips
17:50.47Mudkipswhy is that name so popular
17:50.51Ellipsis?!
17:51.05Ellipsispeople just like me I guess? =]
17:51.08Balstorcncfanatics
17:51.17Mudkipshttp://www.worldofraids.com/news/october/zulaman/loot/Nalorakk/junglestompers.jpg
17:51.18Mecdemortwell it's not curved bars but it's purpose is to completely replace unitframe addons
17:51.36MecdemortHUDUnitFrames?
17:51.42cncfanaticsyes Balstor ?
17:51.43MudkipsEllipsis, check the warlock
17:51.46Ellipsissigh
17:51.47PkekyoMecdemort: get me a screenie and I'll get you a name :)
17:51.54Balstori would like the author of sraids to make it work in a party
17:51.59EllipsisMudkips, do an armory search for Ellipsis, it's sad :(
17:52.03Mudkipshaha
17:52.08EllipsisI'm not as special as I'd like
17:52.11sag_ich_nichtokay
17:52.13sag_ich_nichtnow
17:52.19sag_ich_nichtsomeone tell me what could be tainting my radtab
17:52.22sag_ich_nicht*raidtab
17:52.27Ellipsisyour mom
17:52.36Mudkips...
17:52.40MecdemortPkekyo: its not quite up to par for a descriptive screen shot, i wanted to give it a working name so i can upload it and keep track of changes
17:52.40Mudkipsc wut I did thar?
17:52.49durcynsag_ich_nicht: using CooldownCount?
17:52.50Ellipsisdude you have like 400 addons, where do you even start tracking down that kind of taint
17:53.10sag_ich_nichtdurcyn: nope, omnicc
17:53.12[Ammo]disable your unitframes
17:53.14PkekyoMecdemort: kinda hard for me to get inspiration for it then...and HUDUnitFrames sounds rather fucktarded to be honest
17:53.15[Ammo]and try then
17:53.20durcynsag_ich_nicht: then it's not CooldownCount, yay!
17:53.24Mecdemortya i know
17:53.31sag_ich_nicht[Ammo]: x-perl doesn't cause it :O
17:53.40sag_ich_nichtmaybe RDX does tho...
17:53.41Balstorcncfanatics - I equip a bow (through item rack) while i have bullets in the papper doll I then select a target and "Shoot" stays grayed (correct) I then click on gun to equip it and shoot doesn't change from gray (wrong) I then click on a throwing weapon and same thing.
17:53.44PkekyoMecdemort: does it have unitframes of some sort, or is it just another hud?
17:53.48sag_ich_nichtShirik|Ecole !
17:53.55sag_ich_nichtdoes the old RDX taint the raidtab?!
17:54.18EllipsisPkekyo, I wouldn't call it "just another hud" :P
17:54.24Xinhuanraid tab only?
17:54.25sag_ich_nicht[19:52] <Ellipsis> dude you have like 400 addons, where do you even start tracking down that kind of taint <--well
17:54.26Ellipsissince it WINS THE INTERNETS
17:54.29sag_ich_nichtXinhuan: yes
17:54.31Xinhuanor any part of the social tab?
17:54.34sag_ich_nichtno
17:54.34Xinhuansocial frame i mean
17:54.35Mecdemortit'll have all of the info that a unitframe addon has in hud form
17:54.38sag_ich_nichtjust the raidtab
17:54.46Xinhuanwhenever i open my social frame in combat, i get an error now
17:54.56sag_ich_nichtit's broken as hell, and when i open the raid tab
17:54.57Xinhuanit can be friends list, guildlist, etc any part of it
17:55.02sag_ich_nichtmy FPS goes down to like 1.
17:55.04sag_ich_nichtactually wait
17:55.06sag_ich_nichti could track it that way
17:55.07sag_ich_nichthold.
17:55.27Ellipsiser, I thought that was normal Blizz behavior
17:55.29cncfanaticsBalstor, meh, need to add that event too
17:55.31PkekyoEllipsis: ofcourse not, but I'm trying to get an idea of what his HUD is
17:55.44PkekyoMecdemort: target, target's target, buffs etc?
17:56.09Mecdemortyup
17:56.20Mecdemortmaybe I'll call it JustAnotherHUD or JAHUD
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17:56.34cncfanaticsBalstor, shld be fixed
17:56.42Ellipsishow about for once we actually have a HUD that isn't <prefix>HUD
17:56.42sag_ich_nicht[19:55] <Ellipsis> er, I thought that was normal Blizz behavior <--no, because it doesn't happen with the standard UI.
17:56.46Balstorcncfanatics it only seems to occur when i go from an error state (bow + bullets) to a correct state (gun + bullets) and it corrects it self after i ttack something
17:56.52Balstorsweet
17:56.58PkekyoMecdemort: that's how I've set up my ArcHUD atm :p
17:57.00Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: maybe not on your computer :x
17:57.02Mecdemortfine by me
17:57.03Pkekyoportrait and everything
17:57.08Pkekyobut it's a good idea
17:57.11cncfanaticsBalstor,  I'm not checking if actions are usable when ur gear changes
17:57.15Ellipsismost Blizz frames drop my fps and eat up my memory :/
17:57.17Mecdemortya the only thing it wont have is portraits for group members, but everything else is there
17:57.18PkekyoJAHUD would be a good name, if it's not taken
17:57.25Balstori have to go find an old verson of omnicc the new version destryos my ability to press buttons :(
17:57.38PkekyoMecdemort: it've got group member support?
17:57.40cncfanatics69
17:57.44Mecdemortyup
17:57.51Balstorcncfanatics: Heritic, burn on a pile of LUA books
17:57.53dylanmBalstor: Huh? With what bar addon?
17:58.05Balstorbartender3
17:58.19Antiarc" After further discussion and testing we’ve decided to add threat reduction deep in the paladin's retribution tree. Fanaticism will now reduce threat caused by all actions by 6/12/18/24/30%, in addition to its current effect."
17:58.21cncfanaticsBalstor, still using BT ? :o
17:58.27PkekyoMecdemort: impressive...any chance of getting a screenie of the group member part?
17:58.32dylanmBalstor: version 2.0.6?
17:58.34Pkekyoand how is it with raids?
17:58.34Balstori had to start pressing multiple times to get them to work it was like a vast latency between pressing the buuton and it occuring
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17:59.10Mecdemortwell currently its just the framework and the player's bars ;p just gotta *simply* add the rest in
17:59.20Balstor2.0.6 and also flexbar2 and omniCC cooldown numbers were overwritieng each other
17:59.31dylanmHeh.
17:59.42dylanmI've been using the latest versions with no problems :-/
17:59.43CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52304 10FlexBar2/Highlighting/Highlighting.lua: FlexBar2: Fixed a bug with the usability highlight when changing gear
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18:00.16dylanmYou've tried enabling just those two and it's still an issue?
18:00.24cncfanaticsBalstor, omnicc doe6s
18:00.31cncfanaticsstuff to flexbar buttons ?
18:00.43Mecdemortlol now jahud is growing on me
18:00.47Jagobah<PROTECTED>
18:00.57Jagobaherrr /flex bar :)
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18:01.26PkekyoMecdemort: let me know when you've got it in working order, I'd love to see your design solution :)
18:01.34Mecdemortok
18:01.41Balstori didn't have the issue until well into SSC last night and it was really bad, didn't occur until i pulled up the options panel.
18:02.04Mecdemorti think i've got a rather unique take on UnitTags cuz wow, all the other ones are so wasteful
18:02.11Ellipsisdo you really pull up the options panel all that often Balstor? :P
18:02.14Balstorcncfanatics: Yes omnicc puts a cooldown count on flexbar buttons
18:02.54cncfanaticsBalstor, didn't know it did :o
18:03.03Balstorellipsis once was to mutch, tanking bog lords and I have to press shieldslam 4 times to get it to trigger can't have that ever happening as a MT
18:03.16Mecdemortcan you do: table.a, table.b, table.c = 1, 2, 3?
18:03.21Ellipsiswell then don't open the options during a raid?
18:03.24Ellipsisor l2/rl
18:03.28BalstorI love omniCC little flare (enlarge thingy) on a button when the cooldown is up though
18:03.49|Stan|Pulse!
18:04.06Balstoryhea cnc should make flexpulse
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18:05.58Balstorand i should finish my procwatch remake
18:07.20Balstorafk mouse shopping
18:08.26cncfanaticsmake a module, Balstor? :p
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18:09.13Balstorthats actually an idea, hmm i will do it after procwatch
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18:13.21Pkekyowhat are the best cooldown timer addons out there?
18:13.21Pkekyoand how are warlocks for leveling?
18:13.46CheadsPkekyo very easy
18:13.49Shirik|Ecolehow do you define "best"
18:13.57Shirik|Ecoleand "wtfhax"
18:14.06AeyanFor buttons, I prefer OmniCC but there's plenty 'o options
18:14.14Shirik|Ecoleyou do a ton of DPS, you have a tank you can heal
18:14.16AeyanAnd yeah, warlock is extreme
18:14.20Shirik|Ecoleyou're like your own miniparty
18:14.30PkekyoShirik|Ecole: I need it to be bars...with configurable looks
18:14.44Shirik|Ecolethat doesn't answer my question :P
18:15.00Shirik|Ecoleor it indicates you have a different question :)
18:15.04AeyanI dunno, much about cooldown bars
18:15.19Pkekyowell, my problem is that CDT resets my config every goddamn time I update, and I'm sick of it
18:15.24Shirik|Ecolehonestly I don't use cooldown bars so I don't have a good answer for you, but I am pointing out that there is no such thing as a "best," only opinions
18:16.04CheadsI use DoTimer for my dots
18:16.32Cheadsonly Ash_DoTimer and Ash_Core   not the rest of the crap =9
18:16.49PkekyoShirik|Ecole: ofcourse, but I don't wanna be reffered to completely fuckedup addons
18:16.54Ellipsisthere really needs to be a well written equivalent of DoTimer
18:17.14Ellipsislike, one that's *really* equivalent, not just kinda-sorta-close
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18:18.22Comxxwhat Guild Event fires when someone logs in the guild?
18:19.55KemayoComxx: GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE
18:20.01KemayoBut it could also mean that someone signed off.
18:20.35Kemayo...or that various other things in the guild roster have changed.
18:21.48KemayoComxx: If you want to find this stuff out without painful amounts of reinventing the wheel, the RollCall library fires useful events for it.
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18:22.35cncfanaticsBalstor, did my commit fix ur bug with guns/thrown ?
18:22.42Comxxi look a Rollcall and i did not see any thing for ehwn a member joins
18:22.54Comxxwhen*
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18:23.19Pkekyo!c eu bloodfeather wats
18:23.22ThraeBotPkekyo: Wats, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 13518 HP; 15049 Armour; 894 AP; 149.800 Melee DPS; 11.88% melee crit; 67 melee hit; 306 defense; 16.83% dodge; 23.57% block; 25 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1376 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2x5hpw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39k3xe ][ Updated: Tue Oct 16 14:25:49 2007 EST ]]
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18:23.51KemayoComxx: If fires an event called "MemberConnected" (or "RollCall10_MemberConnected" in 1.0).
18:24.26Comxxhmm ok thanks Kemayo
18:24.27CIA-1203earthbane * r52305 10HellbenderDKP/ClassItemUsage.lua:
18:24.27CIA-12HellbenderDKP:
18:24.27CIA-12- Added Misc type weapons to usage
18:26.57Tigerdyrmm.. Not quite sure I understand the concept behind AceComm - I register a prefix, then send to a specified channel with that prefix using SendCommMessage. So, if I have one addon that needs to talk to another, I make the receiving part listen for both its own messages and the other addon with RegisterComm right?
18:27.26Pkekyoso...namedrop some cooldown timers! bars please :)
18:27.35durcynPkekyo: hourglass
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18:27.53neeneeHm. No Heroes s02e04
18:28.04TigerdyrAnd a follow up to that one would be : Can I send a message from one addon to another using i.e. GUILD on the same machine?
18:28.23durcynTigerdyr: you could, but, uh...why?
18:29.24Tigerdyrdurcyn: Because I have 2 Addons, call it server and client :) Client needs to talk to server, and under normal circumstances these would not be running on the same machine, but during development they have to.
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18:30.52Pkekyodurcyn: download from where?
18:31.03durcynPkekyo: files.wowace.com
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18:31.32Pkekyodurcyn: you don't happen to have a screenshot?
18:32.13qwestoPkekyo, hourglass isn't the most configurable addon I've ever seen ^^ It serves it's purpose well though
18:32.36durcynPkekyo: if you've seen one CandyBar, you've seen them all.
18:32.40qwestothere's also a Hourglass2 in branches I believe, with more options
18:32.49Pkekyocandybar?
18:33.04Pkekyowhat's most important is configurable looks
18:33.05Reclusefisker is always attacking people o.O
18:33.25Pkekyolol
18:33.34durcynPkekyo: yes, CandyBar.  as in the bar library we've been using for what, two years?  you can set widgth height and texture.
18:33.40durcynwidth*
18:33.56Tigerdyrdurcyn: Problem I'm currently having is that Neither seems to be picking up any messages. Both are quite simple "Send message" and "Receive message" type addons right now ..
18:34.34durcynTigerdyr: you might look up the SendAddonMessage API.  I thought it sent messages to self as well, but I could be confused.
18:34.41Pkekyodurcyn: can you set bar color?
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18:35.16durcynPkekyo: not by default, no.
18:35.50Pkekyo'not by default' means I'd have to do some coding?
18:36.24qwestoPkekyo, yes.
18:36.25Pkekyodamnit
18:36.33Pkekyooh well, guess I can have a gander at the files and see what I can change
18:37.08ReclusePkekyo: did you try dotimer?
18:37.46PkekyoRecluse: dotimer? doesn't that one time dots?
18:38.38Recluseand cooldowns and buffs - all configurable and you can turn off what you dont' want - it's like a timer package
18:38.56Pkekyosounds interesting
18:39.16Pkekyoif only I could find the addon thread
18:39.20durcynlook at StartBar.          self:RegisterCandyBar(barId, duration, data.name and data.name or name, data.icon, "Green", "Orange", "Red")
18:39.39durcynhe's changing the color based on the duration
18:40.07Pkekyough
18:40.16PkekyoI just want a dark blue or black bar
18:40.25[Ammo]just toss it 1 color then
18:40.25Tigerdyrdurcyn: mm.. yeh.. the SendAddonMessage Api tells next to nothing about that lol :)  - hehe. oh well
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18:40.48Pkekyodoes dotimer reset all config on update?
18:41.52durcynTigerdyr: get FuBar_AddonSpamFu and see if you get an addon message for your own sends.
18:42.41Pkekyo~dotimer
18:43.01Arrowmasteryou should receive your own messages with SendAddonMessage()
18:43.14sag_ich_nichtFisker-
18:43.17sag_ich_nichttoday
18:43.30sag_ich_nichtis the day that proves that trolling and spamming can change the world.
18:43.33sag_ich_nicht(of warcraft)
18:43.48Pkekyosag_ich_nicht: in what manner?
18:44.10Pkekyois there a forum thread for dotimer?
18:44.28sag_ich_nichtPkekyo:
18:44.29sag_ich_nicht<PROTECTED>
18:45.09sag_ich_nichtin that manner
18:45.10sag_ich_nicht:O
18:45.25ReclusePkekyo: i'll give you a screenshot in a minute
18:45.33KritterDoes anyone know of way to change the display colour/hue of loot so that someone who is red/green colour blind can adjust the blue/purple hues so they can tell the differance?
18:45.55Pkekyosag_ich_nicht: same with imp. zerker stance lol
18:46.15Kirkburn"WoW Insider: Retribution gets passive threat reduction! - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/16/retribution-gets-passive-threat-reduction/"
18:46.28Kirkburnd'oh at my quote marks
18:47.25sag_ich_nicht[20:45] <Pkekyo> sag_ich_nicht: same with imp. zerker stance lol <--except zerker stance already has 20% aggro reduce, it's not in the tooltip, but it's there.
18:47.33sag_ich_nichtretribution has(well, had, once 2.3 hits) 0.
18:48.40Arrowmasterwhats Fanaticism do again?
18:49.23Pkekyogotta love 1.5k shield slams :)
18:49.44Arrowmastergrr wtf, so i finally get around to getting the ptr patch and i put the damn downloader into my wow folder
18:49.54Arrowmasterget great speeds but then cant find the fucking patch
18:49.55sag_ich_nichtArrowmaster: at least your PTR installer works...
18:50.08sag_ich_nichtArrowmaster: increases judgement critchance by 15%
18:50.14ReclusePkekyo: default timer look shown there and options windows for the cooldowns - note the "color" box, lets you customize them --- http://i21.tinypic.com/2djlky.jpg
18:50.36Arrowmasternow i find the patch in my C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator dir for some fucking reason
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18:50.47PkekyoRecluse: is the skin replacable?
18:50.51Arrowmasterwhy the fuck is it there
18:50.53Cheadsvista-hell? =)
18:50.57Arrowmasterno xp
18:51.03Cheadsodd
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18:51.15Arrowmasterguild mate found his under C:\Program Files\Mozilla
18:51.17Tigerdyrdurcyn: thanks for the help - hadn't seen that Spamfu thing :)
18:51.22Cheadsheh
18:51.40Pkekyoif the skin is replacable, I'm getting dotimer NOW :>
18:51.43Arrowmasterits like the fucking downloader picks a random dir to download to then doesnt do anything after downloading
18:52.21Arrowmasterlol wtf
18:52.27Arrowmastertheres an old ptr patch in here too
18:52.31xyuweird, mine installed itself after download
18:53.16ReclusePkekyo: if you note on the big options window, there's a slider to change 'bar texture'
18:54.03Recluse30 different ones XD you can probably add you own if you know what you're doing
18:55.05PkekyoRecluse: where? can't see it lol
18:55.16Pkekyonevermind, found it...cheers, will give it a try :)
18:55.23Recluse:p
18:56.07Reclusethey're what i use for dot/cooldowns - i leave the aura/buff features off cause i use elk's
18:58.07xyuDoes quartz have a respawn timer for TK / Hyjal / Kara etc.
18:58.23Arrowmasterno
18:58.23[Ammo]get Incubator
18:58.24durcynxyu: uh, no.  see Incubator.
18:58.34PkekyoI use EBBs and ClassTimer for buffs/dots etc
18:58.39Arrowmasterquartz isnt necb
18:58.45xyui use incubator, but someone else mentioned one that told you wich boss that trash was associated with
18:58.56xyuah that was it,
18:59.08Xinhuanhow does it track which boss's trash it is btw?
18:59.15Arrowmasterit guesses
18:59.19Xinhuansome of the trash aren't unique to certain bosses
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18:59.42xyusome are
19:00.03Xinhuani was wondering if it would be smart enough to detect/remember if you have killed boss X during the week
19:00.10Xinhuanso it would eliminate that boss frmo guessing
19:00.13Arrowmasterits not
19:01.00durcynit has tables of trash names and boss names.  boss dies, all trash associated with it disappears from timers.
19:01.11Arrowmasterno thats incubator
19:01.15Xinhuando you by any chance know the trash respawn timer in ZA?
19:01.18Arrowmasternecb does it completely different
19:01.19durcynyou can still get new timers for that trash afterwards.  yes, i'm talking about incubator.
19:01.28durcynoh, necb?  people still use that godawful piece of shit?
19:01.34Arrowmasterapparently
19:01.41durcyntell them they're stupid and move on.
19:01.42Xinhuanyes because the last 20 posts i read
19:01.48xyulol
19:01.53Xinhuankeep on saying that NECB has features
19:01.58Xinhuanthat no set of Ace addons can cover
19:02.16Xinhuanlike NECB has feature A, B, C, D, E, F
19:02.24XinhuanAceaddon1 has feature A and C
19:02.29Xinhuananother has B and D
19:02.32durcynantagonist, incubator, bigwigs, quartz, done.
19:02.35Xinhuanbut the user only wants CD and E ;p
19:02.38durcynmix and match.
19:02.42Xinhuanand doesn't want A B and F
19:02.54Arrowmasterthen why are they using necb
19:02.56Xinhuanso he requests for feature E to be added to Aceaddon1 and gets flamed
19:04.31Xinhuanalso some addons overlap in features and can't be turned off lol
19:04.39Xinhuanso these people find necb the best choice
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19:05.22CIA-12AutoBar:
19:05.22CIA-12- Updated localization zhTW
19:05.22CIA-12- Updated localization zhCN
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19:15.51XinhuanFisker-, HALP!
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19:17.12MarliJust installed WAU after a format, and it gives me an error every time I start it :/
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19:17.19CIA-12- Dispays icons for interesting in-fight events
19:17.19CIA-12- Events: Self-Buffs (Trinkets, Power Word: Shield, etc)
19:17.19CIA-12- Events: Spell-Activation (Execute, Overpower, etc)
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19:19.43Pkekyohttp://ace.pastey.net/75394 <--- how can I fix this problem?
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19:20.29maniak232Hey all, Got a question about a mod made by Kaelten
19:20.34maniak232Called "Combine"
19:20.35cncfanaticsBalstor, since when does omnicc support fb2 ?
19:20.36Xinhuanlooks like you have an extra comma somewhere?
19:21.24maniak232i installed it and i cannot seem to find a button to open it up...However i have used a command to open it
19:21.43maniak232but i need something user friendly for my guild...Is there a hidden button somewhere or Syntax for configuration
19:22.11Xinhuancncfanatics: omnicc works by hooking button cooldown animations
19:22.26Tullercncfanatics: probably since i started hooking SetCooldown
19:22.27Xinhuanso it works on all buttons that uses the cooldown animation, regardless of author
19:22.33Xinhuanor addon
19:22.35cncfanaticsheh, nice way
19:23.23Xinhuanthat alone makes it best!
19:23.42cncfanaticsflexbar is the best ^^ , ahem :p
19:26.08PufuHmm
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19:26.41nate_does anyone here run linux and wine?
19:27.05cncfanaticsnate_ me
19:27.39nate_have you had any success running the updater through wine, or are you just updating manually in the SVN?
19:28.01m4rku5nate_ you can use JWoWUpdater
19:28.04m4rku5its a jave based updater
19:28.06cncfanaticsI don't use updaters
19:28.07m4rku5java *
19:28.46nate_where can i find it?
19:29.17m4rku5erm
19:29.20nate_lol
19:29.47m4rku5http://code.google.com/p/jwowupdater/
19:29.50m4rku5there
19:30.58nate_thanks, ill check it out
19:31.12nate_it connects directly to the wowace repository right?
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19:31.54cncfanaticsit uses the zips
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19:32.29cncfanaticslol, how do I run a jar file again on linux ? :p
19:32.40Fisker-no sylvanaar :(
19:32.44nate_jar file? never heard of it
19:32.53Fisker-PTR support wouldn't that be sweet sylvanaar?
19:33.03cncfanaticsnate_, thats java archives
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19:33.21Tiru|DPShi there
19:33.42Tiru|DPSare there any plans to reimpliment the old style menus? maybe through a new ace module?
19:33.52nate_you got me lol, i just switched to suse after not using it since version 8, im a bit behind
19:33.54sylvanaartype 7 letters Fisker- and you have ptr support
19:33.59Fisker-yeah
19:34.01Tiru|DPSI just updated my addons, and find rock confusing
19:34.03Fisker-but then i have to type them :<
19:34.09nate_took me two hours to figure out to install a rpm in yast, used to doing it the old way
19:34.13sylvanaarlol
19:34.24Fisker-technically you could just make a button doing the same thing
19:34.33sylvanaaryes, thats true
19:34.51cncfanaticsbash: ./JWowUpdater.jar: cannot execute binary file
19:34.57cncfanaticsmooo, whats the command to run a damn jar file ? :p
19:35.10sylvanaarjava
19:35.12chexsumjavac <jarfile> i think
19:35.30cncfanaticsjava just gives me an error
19:35.54sylvanaarjava <whatver>
19:35.58sylvanaarno?
19:35.59cncfanaticsjava gives me an error
19:36.00Fisker-btw how is updates handled sylvanaar ?
19:36.00Tiru|DPSjavac
19:36.07Tiru|DPSjavac = java compiler
19:36.19cncfanaticsexception in thread main blabla
19:36.21Fisker-Seems like i usually have to restart the program to get any updates
19:36.24CIA-1203simlan * r52309 10ActionCombat/ (6 files): ActionCombat: First files, hope everything works...
19:36.25cncfanaticswondering if its not just erronous
19:36.42nate_is there some way i can just trick the wowaceupdater to run wine? im lazy and dont wanna figure out java lol
19:37.00sylvanaarFisker- no, it checks while you are running too
19:37.00cncfanaticsnate_, no
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19:37.57cncfanaticsmeh, not gonna bother
19:38.03cncfanaticsgonna extract the jar and run the class file directly
19:38.18Kaeltennate_ can try the one at www.wowace.com/wau2
19:38.24sylvanaaryou are assuming it was an executable jar
19:38.48cncfanaticsjars are executable by definition
19:38.49Tiru|DPSso, no alternatives to the Rock configuration?
19:39.18JoshBorkenot for rock based addons
19:39.21sylvanaarTiru|DPS no
19:39.30Tiru|DPSok, I'll try to get used to it :/
19:39.49Tiru|DPSthanks everyone
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19:42.40Balstorcncfanatics: never said omnicc doesn't work with flexbar it's just flexbar and omnicc what to put cooldown numbers up, really just droping bartendenr 3 seems like the pest choice
19:43.06cncfanaticsfb shldnt put up any cooldown numbers outside of his own bars
19:43.08cncfanaticsdisable the fb ones ?
19:43.59Balstorno flexbar2 buttons: flexbar 2 puts up a cooldown inside the action button, yes?
19:44.20chexsumbalstor, i use cooldowncount with bartender3, you can turn the cooldown numbers off in bartender
19:44.46Balstoralright confusion is reigning supremem
19:45.02cncfanaticsok, tell me exactly whats wrong :p
19:45.13Balstor1) in flexbar2 buttons i'm seeing cncfanatics cooldown count and omnicc cooldown counts
19:45.43chexsumhave you tried closing your left eye ?
19:46.00Balstor2) I use omnicc cause bartender 3 redone action bar and blizzard's 2 right action bars have no cooldowns, but i could replace bartender3 for my action bar with flexbar
19:46.11simlanCool, I uploaded my addon to the SVN. What do I need to do to get it inside WAU?
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19:46.45JoshBorkesimlan: wait 20 minutes
19:46.52manyhah
19:46.57many"realm is not active"
19:47.05simlanphew, 20 mins :) thanks JoshBorke
19:47.09BalstorI do like omincc's pulse (which only shows up on the action bar not on flexbar2's action buttons) , so it appears i will try to port that to a flexbar2 "module"
19:47.13chexsumsimlan f its a simple addon it gets one automaticsly afaik - my one got aded a day later
19:47.47Korbenanyone know where i could ask question about Autobar ?
19:47.48Comxxsteven35
19:47.48dylanmBalstor: Not sure where you're coming with this... it should just "work"
19:48.48JoshBorkebe sure to check errors.log if it doesn't show up, might show why
19:48.53Balstorwell the ultimate statement is "work" is loselly defined, does omnicc and bartender3 seem to be fully working with each other, yes
19:49.19Balstordoes omnicc and the bars on the right seem to be fully working , yes as long as the pulse is only for the main action bar.
19:50.13Balstoris flexbar2 buttons and omnicc working together , maybe from omnicc's point of vie yes, from flexbar2's point of vie yes, from my point of view, hmmm both or providing cooldown numbers
19:50.26dylanmIt's too bad Tuller left, because he'd want to get to the bottom of this...
19:50.35dylanmI didn't know that FB did cooldown counts!
19:50.42dylanmcncfanatics is a man of many talents
19:50.42cncfanaticsofc it does :p
19:50.49cncfanatics:o thanks
19:50.59dylanmIs that something one can disable?
19:51.04cncfanaticsofc it is
19:51.09Balstorplease, flexbar2 can walk and chew gum at the same time
19:51.17dylanmWell then...
19:51.31cncfanaticspretty much everything can be disabled in fb
19:51.51Balstoryhea, but the the better long term solution may be dropping bartender3 and omnicc for a full flexbar2 job
19:52.02dylanmUse whatever you like best.
19:52.15dylanmA little bit of overlap isn't going to kill anyone.
19:52.20Balstoryhea you can adjust everything except the frequency of a certain update routine :P
19:52.32cncfanaticsBalstor, change the code ? :p
19:52.39dylanmMaybe murlocs. Most things should kill murlocs as a side effect.
19:52.54Balstordon't tempt me, or i'm going to slap a goto in there
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19:53.09Balstorright now downloading a driver for my new mouse
19:54.11Balstorso wierd using a mouse again
19:56.42ulicanyone of a list of all the % replacements in wow, like %t for target and %f for focus?
19:57.17ElkanoI think that's the complete list :/
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19:57.31nevcairielyeah, they didnt want to add more, so they wouldnt overcomplicate the parser
19:57.43ulicI thought remember reading that was stuff that would do like his/her and stuff like that too, no?
19:57.59ulicman that sentence is a mess :)
19:59.24Firelemminghi all
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20:17.12Balstorcncfanatics : I scale a group of buttons and now they overlap.....
20:18.05Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1296679884&sid=1 <-awesome thread!
20:18.08cncfanaticsBalstor, reline them ?
20:18.22cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
20:18.37cncfanaticsBalstor, scaling a button won't move any other button
20:18.37Balstoryhea but shouldn't setscale on a group do that ?
20:20.21Balstorfixed it with /fb2 line group=actionbar columns=12
20:21.01cncfanaticsnot really
20:25.23Balstorhmmm now if i could just get the fucking correct driver for my mouse , miscrosoft is screwing me
20:25.50Balstori got one of those sidewinder mice, and there is no driver for it
20:26.51Corganfisker the troll
20:27.33Corgan:(
20:33.46Balstorcncfanatics new bug muhahah
20:35.06Balstorcncfanatics : I have two macros named "SR+" when i dragged one of them on the bar it looked all good, I then relogged and now the other one is showing up
20:35.54Balstorcncfanatics : just the icon is wrong appears the correct macro is still being called
20:36.32cncfanaticsdon't name two macro's the same way
20:36.37cncfanaticsI just pass the macro id to blizzard
20:36.38CIA-1203elkano * r52310 10/branches/ElkBuffBars/: Created folder remotely
20:36.59CIA-1203elkano 072.3 * r52311 10ElkBuffBars/: Created folder remotely
20:37.14CIA-1203poull * r52312 10SmartRes/SmartRes.lua: SmartRes: Coloring still seems bugged, maybe 2.2.3 but i'll remove it again for now.
20:37.48CIA-1203elkano 072.3 * r52313 10ElkBuffBars/: Removed file/folder
20:40.20JoshBorkepoll:  is elkano an idiot?
20:41.15Elkanowell, trying to branch to scn.wowace.com instead of dev.wowace.com ^^'
20:41.28Balstorooo cnc just realized i can go back to haeing 2  uttons to stance dance instead of one button /cheer
20:41.47Silviu-Elkano many changes to buff things in 2.3 ? ;)
20:41.53CIA-1203elkano 072.3 * r52314 10ElkBuffBars/ (11 files):
20:41.54CIA-12ElkBuffBars
20:41.54CIA-12- branching the 2.3 fixes
20:42.06ElkanoSilviu-, well tracking stuff was changed
20:42.17Silviu-Ah
20:44.13Elkanobut now you can change your tracking via rightclick on the 'buff' in EBB :)
20:44.31durcynI think I love you, Elkano.
20:44.44StanzillaElkano: wtb general font setting
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20:48.15Borked|Raiderinc the logging yard range for /combatlog , does that also afflect addons range of events?
20:50.07Balstorcncfanatics : Tested the inventory change stuff all good now
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20:52.44Balstorcncfanatics : Bug : yhea i know i should go find the wiki : /fb2 bind button=2-4 binding=2-4  ranges on bind or/and binding not working
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20:56.10Ozguli`mh.
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20:56.27Ackisyay i just broke 20k gold /brag
20:56.27Ozguli`indeed readme
20:56.38SilowyiAckis: I was up to 9k gold
20:56.42Balstoryhea increaseing the combatlog range does
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20:56.51AckisI lost 7k gold in one day gambling lol
20:56.54Xinhuani have about 80k ^^
20:57.03Stanzillawtf
20:57.11Stanzillafo real?
20:57.12Balstormail me 10k
20:57.15SilowyiAckis: Then I decided to get the materials for a epic gyrocopter, among other things, and now I'm back to 6k
20:57.17Xinhuani earn 500g a day
20:57.24Stanzillahow?
20:57.27Xinhuanprospecting
20:57.33Xinhuanselling enchants, gem cuts
20:57.36Xinhuanjust sit in IF
20:57.38Ozguli`there's no such thing so I can ask here
20:58.00Ozguli`is there some command to reset omen's window position?
20:58.02Ackisjewel crafters make a boat load
20:58.27SilowyiXinhaun: I earn 240g a day doing daily quests... only have to do them once two cause of two accounts. Also takes me about 1.5 hours now. But I don't do it so much anymore, no real reason atm.
20:58.45XinhuanSilowyi: i don't even do dailies ^^
20:58.47SilowyiI do them once a week to pay for raiding expenses
20:59.00SilowyiXinhaun: I prefer daily quests to sitting in IF selling crap.
20:59.06Silviu-Any addon that allows of Blizzard buffs / debuffs to be moved and nothing more ?
20:59.31SilowyiSilviu-: EBB
20:59.33XinhuanSilowyi: i sit in IF only because of writing addons, and selling enchants/gems are perfect in between the reloaduis
20:59.38SilowyiSilviu-: let me get you a direct link
20:59.50durcynSilowyi: yeah, i got bored after 12K G from dailies
20:59.51Silviu-Silowyi i have ebbs, tired of bars ;p
20:59.58Ozguli`I pay raiding expenses by grinding lower city rep for no obvious reason, pickpocketing the birds -> potions
21:00.08CIA-1203jerry * r52315 10Links/Links.lua: Links: who said copy/pasting was evil ? Fixed bug with reference to global "name"
21:00.10Silviu-Want only default buffs in a different place on my screen ;p
21:00.27SilowyiSilviu-: nvm then!
21:00.42Silviu-I also have Buffalo2 but ... 500 errors/minute
21:00.43Ozguli`btw reminded me that the combat error messages are annoying
21:00.44Silviu-Nervs
21:00.53SilowyiSilviu-: CT_Buff should let you do that...
21:00.56Ozguli`any way to remove those?
21:00.58SilowyiSilviu-: I think
21:01.11Silviu-Oky let me look ! thank u Silowyi ;)
21:01.59SilowyiSilviu-: CT_Buff says it needs CT_Core iirc... but it lies. Works just fine without it.
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21:02.12Silviu-Silowyi looks like Ebbs :(
21:02.24dieckare there rumors when 2.3 will be live? 3-4 weeks or 3-4 month? :)
21:02.27SilowyiSilviu-: yeah, but I think you can turn that look off
21:02.36Silviu-Let`s see ;)
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21:03.00SilowyiSilviu-: wouldn't it be nice if blizzard just made all the frames movable by default?
21:03.17Silviu-Omg would be godly :P
21:03.21SilowyiEQ2 had that at release, Bliz slacks
21:03.29Silviu-Or i learn more lua and code one addon that only do that
21:03.30Silviu-:P
21:03.31Silowyithere's an addon that lets you move all frames though
21:03.42Silviu-hmm
21:03.48Silviu-Good ideea
21:04.08SilowyiVisor2
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21:04.53Orionshockmorning all
21:04.53CIA-1203ackis * r52316 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files): (log message trimmed)
21:04.53CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
21:04.53CIA-12- Removed all ; from code (haters)
21:04.53CIA-12- Added missing tailoring and blacksmithing SR recipes
21:04.53CIA-12- MAJOR jewelcrafting update
21:04.54CIA-12- Added zhCN localization (Thanks Lucifer)
21:04.56CIA-12- Cheated and made a enUK localization
21:05.45Ackisaww my change log was about 3x that size
21:05.45SilowyiSilviu-: Visor2 is on the wau, but here is a page with info on it/instructions: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6307-Visor2_(Ace2).html
21:05.45Ackislol
21:05.45Silviu-Silowyi thx a lot :)
21:05.51SilowyiAkis: (CIA-12): - Removed all ; from code (haters) <-- best patchnote ever
21:05.56Silowyi+c
21:06.08Ackislol
21:06.16Xinhuandon't see why it matters
21:06.22Ackisthe last patchnote was "lets have some cake" or something like that lol
21:06.43AckisXinhuan: I removed them in concern for the hard drive space and bandwidth used when downloading the mod
21:07.01SilowyiXinhuan the pervading opinion I've seen is that using ; results in approximately 1-2 kb more file size for a typical mod! possibly more!
21:07.07rob`omg!
21:07.15Xinhuanwhoa 1 kb more is significant!
21:07.20SilowyiAckis: How does that mod compare to TradeJunkie?
21:07.43Balstorcncfanatics how would i bind Alt H to a key???
21:07.50[gk]Hotphoenixits better imho but its still early dev Silowyi
21:08.10AckisI have no idea what tradejunkie is, but mine scans your trade skill list and prints out a list of missing recipes... the text stuff is all done, and the gui is about 1% complete
21:08.39Silowyiah... Trade Junkie does exactly that... except with a GUI.
21:08.59Silowyibut I have some issues with Trade Junkie's GUI... namely, it rather sucks
21:09.29Ackisright now i have big plans for the gui, however learning frames makes me want to shoot myself
21:09.34Silowyihttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9486/
21:09.47Silowyiis your recipe list going to include helpful hints on where to find the recipe?
21:10.21Ackisit has some basic hints, trainer, vendor, a specific faction, a specific mob drop... I want to expand the vendor stuff eventually
21:10.25Silowyior tooltips? That's the thing that annoys me about Trade Junkie, hardly any tooltips
21:11.01Silowyicool, I will watch this closely *tents fingers*
21:11.11Ackisi can guarentee that this has 0 tooltips right now lol
21:11.30AckisI spent about 8 hours trying to get a + to change into a - on the gui lol
21:12.06Silowyi-_-
21:12.32Ackisit also has support for rogue poisons and beast training skills
21:12.44Silowyiso far my GUI experience is limited to messing with dewdrop and tablet :D
21:13.03Silowyimakes things easier, but tis somewhat limiting
21:13.16SilowyiAckis: warlock too?
21:13.40AckisI didn't think locks had skills they could train for their pets...
21:13.52Ackisbah, time to roll a lock
21:13.54Silowyiwell grimoirs
21:13.59kadrahilAckis: reroll
21:14.00Xinhuanwhy can't you just buy them all
21:14.08Ackisi'm a troll priest!!!!
21:14.09Kritterit's a static list.
21:14.28durcynSilowyi: GrimoireKeeper.
21:14.40Silowyidurcyn: thx!
21:15.21SilowyiThe nice thing about WoW is that so many people play it that probalby 99% of the time there's an addon out there that already does what I really wish an addon would do.
21:15.42SilowyiBut no one has made my Solarian/Baron Geddon mod
21:15.52Ackisi want an add-on to grind ravenholdt rep for me :(
21:16.07Xinhuanwhat?
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21:16.54SilowyiI want an addon that when you get the debuff, starts playing the "Bang on the Drum All Day" as heard in the Ventrilo Harassment videos... then goes WTF *BOOOM*! (also as heard in the videos) when the bomb blows up.
21:17.41durcyncould be rather easily done
21:17.55durcynPlaySoundFile on the debuff event
21:18.06SilowyiDurcyn: Yup, trivial. I even know how to do it, but I am lazy and also busy.
21:18.22ckknightAnyone else see Across The Universe?
21:18.59SilowyiDurcyn: It would be interesting to see how few lines of lua that could be done in. I'm thinking 10 and still be reasonably well formatted code.
21:20.02Pkekyohow many tanks are needed for magtheridon? (what gear level?)
21:20.25Xinhuan4 tanks need minimum
21:20.25Ackis3-5 tanks depending on gear/skill and healer gear/skill
21:20.37Xinhuan3 is stretching it
21:20.46SilowyiGruul/Kara... 4/5 T4 is nice. 4 tanks minimum (one of them should be good at holding agro on two targets).
21:20.48Xinhuanand probably only doable if you have T5
21:20.50Aens|Superioritywell, you can 'tank' the first two with offspecs
21:20.53Ackisa BT guild could do it w/ 3
21:21.22Xinhuanoffspecs won't be able to hold aggro all that well for you to zerg kill them though
21:21.43Aens|Superioritythats what MD is for
21:21.47Xinhuanplus you need more coordination on counterspelling one so it doesn't heal the other (and shadowbolts)
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21:22.39SilowyiThe way we do it is MT on the first add, feral druid (me) on the 2nd and third add, gives me ~ 20-25 seconds to establish, rogues can blade flurry then without pulling agro, offspec warrior on the 4th, and either a prot warrior or second feral druid on the 5th.
21:23.00Ackisdepends on the kill order, but then you'd have the offspecs tanking the "tougher" adds
21:23.20Xinhuanwhat we do is, we have MT on 1st and 2nd add, and the other 3 tanks on the other 3, with the 2nd best tank on the last one to be killed
21:23.27SilowyiAckis: 4th isn't that hard, 5th is definitely hardest.
21:23.30Xinhuanthe 2nd add's aggro is established with a misdirect
21:24.01SilowyiXinhuan: The only reason we don't do it that way is cause rogues blade-flurrying will usually out-agro a misdirect pretty quickly, unless you can chain them.
21:24.16Silowyiand we only have one hunter :P
21:24.33Xinhuanour MT can hold aggro on both though
21:24.40Xinhuaneven with rogue's bladeflurrying
21:25.19SilowyiXinhuan: Our MT has never been that great at agro. Very high mitigation/HP warrior.
21:25.55SilowyiI OT gruul with Salvation on in full bear gear and still have to hold back occasionally.
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21:26.11NivFreakwhy would you ever tank with salv?
21:26.12NivFreak;P
21:26.14FirelemmingQuestion: Why does this work: self.db.profile.StarTarget = newValue; but not self.db.profile.StarTarget = UnitName("target"); anybody knows?
21:26.15Xinhuangenerating aggro is a skill, and not that much related to gear
21:26.25Xinhuanalthough it is related
21:26.32NivFreakgear certainly plays into threat
21:26.33SilowyiNivFreak: Because if I don't I have to sit there using Mangle once every 20 seconds and that's boring.
21:26.34ag`what? Skill is needed to lay wow? :D
21:26.38rob`our last couple of kills we had a DPS warrior on the second add, had a prot paladin on the first add, then had him taunt the second one off.  Two feral druids and a prot warrior for the other three.
21:26.40NivFreakSilowyi: haha
21:26.47Aens|SuperioritySilowyi: i'm at the other end of that spectrum. I can't get enough rage in my full bear gear to produce enough threat to gruul before 7 grows
21:27.02NivFreakAens|Superiority: stand in a cavein :)
21:27.06SilowyiAens: stand in the cave ins
21:27.11rob`take off your pants!
21:27.17Xinhuani am wondering if its worth getting the darkmoon card
21:27.20Xinhuan+8 dmg per stack one
21:27.26NivFreaknope
21:27.50NivFreakthere are much better trinkets
21:27.54Mudkips^
21:27.56Xinhuanas arcane spec, i could technically get it to stack to 10 within 10 seconds
21:28.01JoshBorkedebugging coroutines is hard
21:28.02Xinhuanusing TLC and Sextant atm
21:28.10FirelemmingQuestion: Why does this work: self.db.profile.StarTarget = newValue; but not self.db.profile.StarTarget = UnitName("target"); anybody knows?
21:28.23Xinhuanjosh, run the code not as a coroutine first ;p
21:28.37JoshBorkei have no idea how, someone else wrote it :-D
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21:28.49Xinhuanwhat addon is that?
21:28.55JoshBorkeItemCatalog
21:28.59Xinhuanwhat does it do
21:29.07xyuwhoa
21:29.11xyui didn't know mindsooth could pull mobs :(
21:29.22xyuhe got sick of being soothed and came and wooped my ass
21:29.24Saint-Nlooks like a raid marker addon
21:29.50Saint-Nyeah soothed pulls once it elapses now if yer in range ;)
21:29.57xyui wasn't in range
21:30.00xyui was just hanging out
21:30.01xyusoothing a mob
21:30.03xyuwaiting for people
21:30.06xyumax range
21:30.07Balstorcncfanatics, your macro code is broke
21:30.08JoshBorkeXinhuan: it's an item database mod like Linkerator or KC_Linkview or the like
21:30.16Saint-Nwierd wonder if the changed that
21:30.23Saint-Nyou should complain
21:30.32Xinhuanwhat does it use the coroutine to do?
21:30.37xyuwe i cast it on him like 30 times :)
21:30.44Saint-Nlaugh
21:30.52JoshBorkeXinhuan: to spread the item search out so it doesn't hang
21:30.53Firelemminganybody? its so wierd when i do self:Print("Your current target is " .. UnitName("target")); it does show the name in chat.
21:31.01xyuit's that mob in shadowlabs near the doorway that you can skip
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21:31.04Xinhuanah
21:31.17Xinhuanshouldn't really be necessary tbh
21:31.24Xinhuansince a item search shouldn't be taking any longer than 3 secs
21:31.27JoshBorkeFirelemming: perhaps UnitName isn'tu pdated or the unit doesn't exist
21:31.29Xinhuaneven if your database has 62k items
21:31.41JoshBorkeunless you have an older/slower computer
21:31.48Xinhuan(my lootlink is 14 mb with 62k items, and a full text search takes a max of 2 secs)
21:32.08OrionshockFirelemming: basicly because your declaring the variable nil
21:32.10Xinhuani used to use a amd 1800+ (which is 1592 mhz) and it still didn't take longer than that
21:32.17Xinhuanso i'm not sure what your system is
21:32.26JoshBorkewell, for someone reason full searches take longer for me
21:32.31Xinhuanit could be just bad pruning code
21:32.45JoshBorkeit generates the entire possible data set or something
21:33.31Xinhuanyeah, sounds like bad coding ;p
21:33.47FirelemmingWell the self.db.profile.StarTarget isnt empty and i have a target. when i make a seperate function just to print the targetname to the chat it works. but i cant update teh profile with the name, wich i dont understand
21:33.56Xinhuanlootlink only takes a maximum of some 40 seconds to reparse 21k items in the local cache
21:34.04Xinhuani.e rebuild the full text of every item
21:34.14SkruHi all, I don't know if I am in the right place but can someone offer some help with Cartographer?
21:34.25GagorianFirelemming: do you run that self.db.profile.StarTarget = UnitName("target") on PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED event?
21:34.26Xinhuanby using a tooltip
21:34.26GagorianOr what
21:34.49Fisker-i'm gonna pew your laser if you know what i mean Gagorian
21:35.21Gagorian... I don't!
21:35.29Firelemmingno, i run it when you type in a slash command to update a option for the mod.  
21:35.30Firelemmingfunction WichIsMine:GetStar()
21:35.32Firelemming<PROTECTED>
21:35.33Firelemmingend
21:35.35Firelemmingfunction WichIsMine:SetStar(newValue)
21:35.36Firelemmingself:Print("Your current target is " .. UnitName("target"));
21:35.38Firelemmingif UnitName("target") then
21:35.39Firelemming<PROTECTED>
21:35.41Firelemmingelse
21:35.42Firelemmingself.db.profile.StarTarget = newValue;
21:35.44Firelemming<PROTECTED>
21:35.44durcynuse pastey.
21:35.45Firelemmingend
21:35.51durcynno, use pastey.
21:36.04Ackiswhile (1) fork();
21:36.20Firelemmingits my second day for coding durcyn :P so im still learing :P
21:36.37JoshBorkeFirelemming: for anything over 3 lines please use pastey
21:36.40JoshBorkeit's in the toc
21:37.02durcynand you misspelled 'which'.
21:37.33Firelemmingo lol, you are right durcyn -.- anyway, what is pastey?
21:38.10GagorianDoes that make you gay in any way?
21:38.20JoshBorkeFirelemming: look at the topic: http://ace.pastey.net
21:38.23CIA-1203saroz * r52317 10cyCircled/plugins/Bongos2.lua:
21:38.23CIA-12cyCircled:
21:38.23CIA-12- Fix equipped not showing with Bongos2 (hack from Bartender3 plugin)
21:38.25SarozFINALLY!
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21:39.19Pkekyomaggy before or after ssc/tk?
21:39.45Xinhuanbefore.
21:39.54FirelemmingO! so then i post the link here, right?  http://ace.pastey.net/75400
21:40.53GagorianThat should work
21:40.55Fisker-no it only makes you gay Gagorian :I
21:41.03GagorianDamn!
21:41.17GagorianI knew there was something fishy going on
21:41.48Fisker-ownt Gagorian :(
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21:43.32Gagorian:(
21:44.32Firelemmingbut anyway, anybody got a clue why it doesnt work :P
21:46.28OrionshockFirelemming: what are you trying to make it do?
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21:46.55Firelemmingtake the name of the target and save it in that variable
21:47.16Orionshockdoes it error?
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21:47.39Xinhuanif you want it never to be "nil", you can do
21:47.42XinhuanUnitTarget("target") or ""
21:47.53Xinhuanso if unittarget returns nothing, "" gets saved
21:48.33Firelemmingnope, it just doesnt set the new value, like it ignores it completly, and the variable doesnt change. also the first print line doesnt excute either
21:48.37Xinhuanthen again, i just looked ar your code
21:48.59Xinhuanso make a function or event to call your function
21:49.05Xinhuanit doesn't call it by itself
21:49.08OrionshockFirelemming: .. :Print while it is a Lua thing, is not a wow thing
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21:49.31Orionshocknor is WichIsMine:Print() a viable function call
21:49.54Orionshocktry DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("")
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21:50.47Firelemmingbut why does it work when i have a simple function called, TargetTest with only the exact same line in it, and when i call that function through /wichismine TargetTest it works correctly o.O doesnt make sense to me
21:51.28Orionshock.... english FTL :(
21:56.18JoshBorke<PROTECTED>
21:56.41Firelemmingwoot same here!
21:57.16cladhaireno, i fixed it
21:57.18cladhaireLIAR
21:57.38Firelemmingseems when you use the options table it doesnt work when you have it set on text but when you set it to execute and then do the function it works :P
21:59.15JoshBorkeyou fixed it claddy waddy?
21:59.39JoshBorkewell, as long as it's fixed
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22:01.34PkekyoI've lost -all- audio on my laptop...any ideas how I can fix?
22:01.51Firelemmingmuted?
22:02.13Pkekyonegative
22:02.34Firelemmingrestart doesnt work?
22:02.36Pkekyoit's running vista btw...no admin priviledges
22:02.44PkekyoFirelemming: doesn'seem to, no
22:03.28Pkekyowindows control panel says the speakers are fully functional though
22:03.55Firelemminghmmm wierd
22:04.32Pkekyoindeed
22:04.46PkekyoI get that fugly beep when I press all the keys on my keyboard though
22:05.08Firelemmingyeah but thats not the soundcard
22:05.48Firelemmingbut i dont have vista so cant realy help with it :(
22:06.11Pkekyowin control panel even says it's running audio, though I can hear exactly jack shit
22:06.12Pkekyomeh!
22:06.36Firelemmingstupid question: Speakers turned on?
22:06.49PkekyoFirelemming: laptop, integrated speakers, so...yeah
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22:08.31MarliIve installed .net 1.1 and restarted my pc
22:08.39MarliBut WAU gives me a fatal error when I open it
22:08.40MarliWhy?
22:08.44Tornhoofyou need 2.0
22:08.51MarliIts on 2.0 T_T
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22:09.15ag`yoink
22:09.30MarliWhy would 1.1 even be on the ms site anymore
22:09.43Pkekyosod it, I'm gonna try another reboot
22:09.49Arrowmasterbecause 1.1 and 2.0 are different
22:10.00Pufuhmm
22:10.01PufuDang it
22:10.02Pufu>.<
22:10.16Tornhoofactually it's already at 3.0
22:10.19Tornhoofor even 3.5
22:10.23PufuSilly MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames isn't UI 2.2 yet =/
22:10.29Tornhoofwhich is mostly just extended 2.0 though
22:12.14Arrowmasteryeah i thought 3.0 was extended 2.0, but 1.1 and 2.0 had major differences
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22:15.45sylvanaarmany apps use 1.1 still
22:15.54Pkekyolmao, the fourth reboot gave me audio!
22:16.09Speeddymon_anyone able to get fubar_talkfu to show up in their fubar?  cause it wont show for me..
22:16.38PkekyoSpeeddymon_: that the one for voice addons?
22:16.49Pkekyovoice communication*
22:17.20Speeddymon_n/m i had to go into rockconfig and change it to show in the center instead of on the right.. but yes it is
22:17.59PkekyoI used to have that one...never worked though
22:19.08Speeddymon_well there was voicefu, which was supposed to tell you who was talking in vent and ts, but the other ppl in vent/ts had to be using it as well.. then theres the new talkfu that works with the ingame voice chat
22:19.34MarliOk its not related to .NET and I get a fatal error that says "Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt" when I start WAU
22:19.36Pkekyodoes anyone actually use the ingame voicechat?
22:19.38MarliAny suggestions?
22:19.53PkekyoMarli: format? :p
22:20.10MarliI just reformatted and started fresh so..
22:20.10Marliwhy
22:21.02Pkekyo'twas a joke
22:21.16Marlioh
22:21.17MarliLoL
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22:23.12Pkekyolmao, I'm actually watching a movie over remote desktop, with NO lag
22:23.12Pkekyothe sound is goddamn synced
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22:23.18CIA-1203alar * r52318 10!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: !AlarLib Reduced verbosity
22:23.38CIA-1203alar * r52319 10AlarAutomation/AlarAutomation.lua: AlarAutomation Reduced verbosity
22:24.00CIA-1203alar * r52320 10AlarBGHelper/AlarBGHelper.lua: AlarBGHelper Reduced verbosity
22:24.03sylvanaarwho would have thought - windows vista runs faster when you let it manage the page files itself
22:25.07Pkekyopage files?
22:25.52KeiasMarli make sure your addon/interface folders aren't marked as Read Only
22:26.30MarliI'll check
22:27.01MarliThe entire folder was :)
22:28.02MarliThanks Keias
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22:30.07Balstorgrrr i found a bug in flexbar2 and no author to bug till tomrrow /pout
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22:30.17Keiasnp
22:30.31durcynBalstor: botmail him, he'll love that.
22:31.28Balstori though he said his siki page a bug report feature but no can find
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22:51.00Balstorbbl rebooting many times
22:52.51Finjesus
22:53.16FinFrom: Steve Garvey <stevengarvey@yahoo.com>
22:53.19FinSubject: Crazy question
22:53.26FinI've recently started a company selling an ad blocking DNS service.
22:53.27Fin...
22:53.42FinAnyway, I was wondering if you'd be interested in running a text ad for the service on your site?
22:53.53Fin</email>
22:54.00Finhmm now LET ME THINK
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22:55.59[dRaCo]why not? it'd be a lot of fun!
22:56.15Finoh! yeah. OK then.
22:56.59Finnow you put it like that
22:58.25[dRaCo]pretty good, hm?
22:58.28Shinjanight here !
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23:19.04Pkekyohmm...possible to play wow via remote desktop?
23:19.22liquidzoopossible, but it isn't very smooth
23:20.21*** join/#wowace McNeal (n=chatzill@p54B3FC63.dip.t-dialin.net)
23:20.38Pkekyowould make my day at school alot less boring
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23:23.54Pkekyonah, not possible.. error message from wow: 'Running World of Warcraft through a Remote Desktop connection is not supported. Exiting program.
23:24.09Pkekyopiece of shit
23:24.36durcynthere's no overlay in RDP, dude
23:24.51Pkekyordp? overlay? etwas?
23:25.00Towbarremote desktop protocl
23:25.01JoshBorkeuse VNC
23:25.07Towbarbut VNC works, its jsut VERY slow
23:25.20Pkekyoused to work with Logmein...
23:25.32Pkekyocouldn't render the graphics fast enough though
23:25.38Pkekyohad like 0.2 fps
23:25.42Towbaryea
23:26.09Pkekyofrom the way that mstsc plays video, I'd imagine wow would work pretty well too
23:26.30JoshBorkefull screen video?
23:26.42Pkekyocan't remember
23:26.53JoshBorkewow being a fullscreen app would require more updates
23:27.02JoshBorkei can say that diablo 2 was playable
23:27.19PkekyoJoshBorke: even if I run wow windowed?
23:28.51Pkekyodamn, didn't notice till just now how awesome the kill bill 1 soundtrack is
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23:32.33Pkekyomornin' kaelten
23:36.37JoshBorkekaelten is here twice
23:37.03Korbenguys girls when dose the hallowen start ?
23:37.08Korbenafter server resets ?
23:37.10Stanzillatomorrow
23:37.19Korbenkk thanx
23:38.26JoshBorke18th i thought
23:38.35Trell_whats the name of the mage addon that does food and water and auto trades?
23:38.41Trell_and is it ace/is there an ace2 version?
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23:42.47Diaohmm
23:42.51Diaowhy do priests need buffs?
23:44.07[dRaCo]discipline priests are pretty useless when it comes to raiding
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23:44.36Diaothey're only getting pvp buffs though
23:44.55kebinusanwhy does every class need 3 trees viable for everything
23:45.03kebinusanWarriors dont have a healing tree :-P
23:45.23Diaoi mean
23:45.26[dRaCo]pain suppression might turn out to be pretty useful as a second shield wall
23:45.26Pkekyokebinusan: that would make us loladins
23:45.35Diaomy priest alt just hit 70, he's still in almost all low 60s gear
23:45.57Diaoi respecced him 28/33/0 and went to pvp...
23:45.59charonkebinusan: comparing pvp with healing is a bit silly... compare pvp with pve perhaps?
23:46.07Diaoi can tank pretty much anyone for a good 2-3 min
23:46.08Diaobefore dying
23:46.14Diaoi don't understand why they need buffs
23:46.18kebinusanI dont know what goes through blizzards mind with some of the changes, ms really didnt need the buff its getting
23:46.37Diaoms isn't getting a buff o_O
23:46.44charonwtf
23:46.47kebinusanyeah it is, affecting life drains
23:46.51Diaoit's not just ms
23:46.55Diaowound poison does as well
23:46.57kenlyricuh
23:47.09Diaoit's a warlock nerf, not a ms buff :P
23:47.18charonah ok i'm fine with that... you had me scared for a moment there :P
23:47.22Pkekyokebinusan: it's not really an MS buff, drain effects are just fixed to be considered as healing
23:47.27Diaoyep
23:47.33kebinusanliek warriors and rogues ever had problems with warlocks
23:47.38Recluseso i asked about an addon that unshapeshifts at flight masters and someone suggested automaton... it does unshapeshift, but only when the error frame says "you are in shapeshift form" but flight masters say "you cannot take a taxi when shapeshifted" so that's a bust T_T wonder if the error text is the trigger...
23:47.39Diaothey do
23:47.41Pkekyokebinusan: well, yea
23:47.42Diaohave plenty of trouble
23:47.45kebinusanPkekyo: no they're not, because they receive no benefit from +healing
23:47.46Diaoat least warriors do
23:47.57Pkekyokebinusan: blizzard does not agree with you
23:47.57Diaoand they're finally fixing pummel and kick
23:47.58kebinusanits called pummel
23:47.59Diaoto work properly
23:48.04Diaopummel fails 80% of the time
23:48.14Diaoi'll pummel a life drain and the lock will immediately cast life drain again
23:48.17Diaowith no delay
23:48.22Diaobecause pummel is broken atm :P
23:48.37Pkekyohas been for three years nopw
23:48.43Diaoit says it interrupts
23:48.44Pkekyos/nopw/now/
23:48.45Diaoand yet it doesn't
23:48.57Diaowhich is a major problem when fighting a sl/sl lock
23:49.00Diaothat drains more hp than you dps
23:49.05Diaoso they're at 100% while you are dying quickly
23:49.05kebinusanlmao
23:49.06kebinusanno
23:49.17Diao500 hp a tick
23:49.19kebinusanif you cant do more than 300 dps thats pretty sad
23:49.19Diaofrom a s2 geared lock
23:49.33Diaoon a target with more physical reduction
23:49.37Diaothan a warrior
23:49.41Pkekyokebinusan: welcome to the wonderful world of resilience?
23:49.43kebinusandiao not true
23:49.49Diaooh?
23:49.55Diaoa good 4k armor + sl?
23:50.04kebinusanlmao locks dont have 4k armor
23:50.10kebinusanand 2.5k maybe
23:50.13Diaohave you seen
23:50.16kebinusanand even so you have this thing called sunder
23:50.17Diaothe cloth gear?
23:50.20Diao....
23:50.22Diaowhot he fuck uses sunder
23:50.23Diaoin pvp
23:50.24kebinusanand this other thing you can do called kill the pet
23:50.27Diaowhat a waste of rage
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23:50.32Pkekyokebinusan: sunder armor in pvp? have you ever even played a warrior?
23:50.33kebinusanjsut because you dont use it doesnt mean you cant
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23:50.37Diaouhh
23:50.39kebinusanso kill his pet
23:50.40Diaonobody will ever waste rage on sunders
23:50.41Diaoever.
23:50.43Diaoperiod
23:50.43kebinusanjesus
23:50.54kebinusanpets have 0 resil and melt like butter
23:50.59Pkekyokebinusan: which in turn will end up letting him kill you without even putting any effort into it
23:51.23kebinusannot true
23:51.32Pkekyodid you ever play a warrior?
23:51.32charonDiao is half right, the warlock gear indeed has extra armor added, much like feral gear
23:51.35kebinusanbesides its not like every warlock is SL/SL
23:51.45charonway to go... putting extra armor on a class already based around stam
23:51.47kebinusanall caster gear has slightly more armor
23:51.53Diao"slightly" more
23:51.53kebinusanbut it maxes out at like 2.5 ac
23:52.01Diaoit's got 2.5k ac
23:52.02kebinusanyes slightly
23:52.05Diaoon just the 5 arena pieces alone
23:52.17charonah, true
23:52.25Diaoyou're forgetting the other 4
23:52.58kebinusanyou cant tell me warriors have it sooo hard when 70% of the top 2v2 teams are warrior/healer
23:53.03Diaoyou mean
23:53.04Diaowarrior/druid
23:53.04kebinusanIm just not buyin what you're sellin
23:53.09Diaothe only reason warrior/druid is so good
23:53.13Diaois because druid heals counter warlock damage completely
23:53.17Diaoso they will eventually win
23:53.21Pkekyokebinusan: have you ever played a warrior?
23:53.31Diaoif they didn't have a druid partner
23:53.34Diaothe warriors would lose every game
23:53.35Diaoagainst the locks
23:53.56kebinusanno they dont diao
23:54.03Diaoall the top warrior/healer teams
23:54.05Diaoare warrior/druid
23:54.12Pkekyoif you're having so big problems with warrior+healer, team your lock up with a goddamn pala and shear through to top rankings
23:54.15kebinusanPkekyo, yes I have and granted I wouldnt sunder in pvp, but thats besides the point the option is available to you
23:54.19kebinusanjust like killing a warlocks pet
23:54.46Diaoit's great killing a lock's pet
23:54.50Diaojust to watch them summon another one instantly
23:54.53Diaoi love it
23:54.53Pkekyoand the option is available to just use improved rend too...not like anyone's doing it, 'cause it's a bad_fucking_idea
23:55.05Diaoit's a waste of rage
23:55.10Diaoi've played a lock in pvp
23:55.12Diaoi've played a warrior in pvp
23:55.35kebinusanand so what if sl/sl locks give you a hard time, its not like every warlock is SL/SL
23:55.43Diaoin 2v2s
23:55.44Diaothey are
23:55.52Pkekyokebinusan: no, only every 99 warlocks out of 100
23:56.10Diaoevery single 2v2/3v3 top warlock is sl spec
23:56.10kebinusanand your healer can dispel 99% of a sl/sl locks damage
23:56.14kebinusanso I really dont see the problem
23:56.16Diao..
23:56.28charonyou know what i find funny, this discussion feels like it's circling around whether arms warrior + some healer or warlock + some other healer is more overpowered
23:56.35charonwhat about the N other possible combinations in 2v2?
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23:56.55Pkekyokebinusan: read the warrior class description... let me know if you can find "includes a spanking new pocket healer" in the text there
23:57.37Diaowell the top 3 2v2 team types are
23:57.41kebinusanWhat you mean all warriors arent given a stormherald and mace spec when they join a battleground?
23:57.42Diaowarrior/healer, lock/healer and rogue/healer
23:57.51charonsee there's balance for you
23:58.01charonwhy bother discussing balance among the three if all others are left out?
23:58.12[dRaCo]healers are imba! nerf healers!
23:58.18Diaowell the reason is
23:58.19Diao2v2 games drag out
23:58.21Diaofor a long time
23:58.25Diaoand those are the 3 non-mana-reliant classes
23:58.53Diaoall the other classes are too reliant on mana to last for those long games in 2s
23:59.25Pkekyokebinusan: don't you even dare say "not every lock is SL/SL" when you talk like every goddamn warrior in the entire world has a personal healer and lolherald
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23:59.51kebinusanpkekyo, we'll we're talking about arena at least that was the discussion so

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