| 00:00.12 | Pkekyo | it's fun tbh |
| 00:00.25 | Pkekyo | shattering their illusions of KTM and DBMs grandeur |
| 00:01.14 | Funkeh` | Hjalte, that doesn't sound right, version check has nothing to do with range |
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| 00:01.56 | Zhinjio | somehow I doubt 'hophop' is a real french word. |
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| 00:02.44 | Pkekyo | "I was wetter than drew barrymore at a grunge club" <---- what the flying fuck is that supposed to mean? |
| 00:03.01 | Zhinjio | not sure, but it sounds hot. |
| 00:04.03 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 00:05.09 | Pkekyo | seriouslu |
| 00:05.14 | Pkekyo | seriously though* |
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| 00:05.18 | Pkekyo | at gruul tonight |
| 00:05.41 | Pkekyo | I inspected a couple of peeps (joint run)....rogue used riding crop for DPS, and a warlock was using his lvl 60 pvp trinket |
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| 00:06.16 | Hjalte | Funkeh`: He's been testing it, and even though it doesnt make much sense, it only works if he stands close to the person doing the version check |
| 00:07.02 | kebinusan | I yell at people not running omen, I fricken hate seeing someone at 200000 threat on a mob they havent touched.. |
| 00:07.05 | aestil | is anyone using/maintaing dorje's healing bars? |
| 00:07.13 | Xinhuan | shouldn't you contact the author of DBMFTLBBQ instead? |
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| 00:07.47 | Pkekyo | kebinusan: had that exact problem during my joint guild run tonight :< |
| 00:08.01 | Mecdemort | when is blizz supposed to be giving mobs unique IDs for threat etc |
| 00:08.12 | Funkeh` | 2.4 |
| 00:08.17 | Mecdemort | dang |
| 00:08.34 | Megalon | 2.5 introduces autocasting for playerspells :P |
| 00:08.38 | Mecdemort | any chance of threat being able to distinguish mobs by raid icons until then? |
| 00:08.50 | Pkekyo | "WHY IN POO-PERFECT HELL WOULD YOU PEE ON A CORPSE?!" ahahhahhah |
| 00:08.53 | Funkeh` | there is no 2.5 on the roadmap |
| 00:08.54 | Xinhuan | lol someone will change icons |
| 00:09.24 | Xinhuan | plus the implementation details would be fairly complicated |
| 00:10.22 | Mecdemort | couldnt you do something like <mob name w/o icon threat>, <mob name w/icon# threat> and if someone changes icons then oh well give them the other number? |
| 00:10.33 | Mecdemort | its not amazingly accurate but more so than nothing |
| 00:10.36 | Hjalte | Xinhuan: I am. I wrote vhaarr in the first place :) |
| 00:10.52 | Xinhuan | ah vharr is the author? :) |
| 00:11.20 | kenlyric|laptop | Mecdemort: since when can you track mobs by raid icon? |
| 00:11.43 | Xinhuan | you can't |
| 00:11.51 | kenlyric|laptop | I know. |
| 00:11.52 | Xinhuan | he merely means using raid icons as a alternative means |
| 00:12.09 | buu | Can addons .. see a raid icon? |
| 00:12.18 | Xinhuan | they can check if a unitID has a raid icon |
| 00:12.22 | kenlyric|laptop | no, no, and no. |
| 00:12.27 | buu | Yeah.. |
| 00:12.37 | Xinhuan | but like i said the code would be unwieldy and raidicons can change |
| 00:12.40 | kenlyric|laptop | but not a specific on, rigt? |
| 00:12.47 | kenlyric|laptop | *one |
| 00:13.13 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric|laptop: you can check for specific raid icons as long as you have a specific unitID to check against... |
| 00:13.31 | Mecdemort | you can do UnitName('target")..GetRaidTargetIndex('target') instead of just by name |
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| 00:15.34 | Mecdemort | i shouldnt even think code would change that much |
| 00:15.52 | Xinhuan | it will, because it has to account for raid icons changing |
| 00:16.08 | Xinhuan | such as when the main assist switches SKULL from one mob to the next |
| 00:16.15 | Xinhuan | to indicate what mob to attack |
| 00:16.28 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 00:16.52 | Mecdemort | if those mobs have the same name then the same icon threat would be identical to how it is now |
| 00:17.02 | Mecdemort | but i guess the tank would be low |
| 00:19.09 | orionshock | almost done with these things |
| 00:19.36 | Trell_ | in ZA, does the timer event start as soon as someone in the raid walks into the instance, or do you have to physically speak to the npc at the start first? |
| 00:19.45 | Corgan | talk to the npc |
| 00:19.48 | Trell_ | k |
| 00:20.06 | Corgan | I don't think you're saved until you start the event either |
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| 00:20.46 | Trell_ | twice ive got saved due to idiots in my pug |
| 00:20.55 | Trell_ | and I just wanted to confirm when you get saved. |
| 00:23.27 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r52074 10Cartographer_Herbalism/ (. addon.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 00:23.28 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Herbalism: |
| 00:23.28 | CIA-12 | -Update Externals to include everything needed |
| 00:23.28 | CIA-12 | -Update embeds.xml to match externals |
| 00:23.28 | CIA-12 | -comment out ref in core to AceAddon as it's not used anywhere else in file. |
| 00:24.15 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r52075 10Cartographer_Mining/ (Cartographer_Mining.toc addon.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 00:24.15 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Mining: |
| 00:24.15 | CIA-12 | -Update Externals to include everything needed |
| 00:24.15 | CIA-12 | -Update embeds.xml to match externals |
| 00:24.16 | CIA-12 | -comment out ref in core to AceAddon as it's not used anywhere else in file. |
| 00:26.19 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r52076 10Cartographer_Noteshare/ (Cartographer_Noteshare.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): |
| 00:26.19 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Noteshare: |
| 00:26.19 | CIA-12 | -Update Externals to match everything needed to load this addon properly |
| 00:26.19 | CIA-12 | -Update embeds.xml to match externals |
| 00:26.19 | CIA-12 | -update to to optional load Standalone libs |
| 00:26.40 | orionshock | there... that should fix most of the problems |
| 00:27.57 | Xinhuan | want to fix up a few other TOCs and embeds as well? :) |
| 00:28.04 | orionshock | :P |
| 00:28.18 | Xinhuan | 10/15 06:55:25.062 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\GraphLib\GraphLib.toc |
| 00:28.19 | Xinhuan | 10/15 06:55:25.062 Error loading Interface\AddOns\GraphLib\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua |
| 00:28.20 | Xinhuan | fix this one |
| 00:28.37 | orionshock | those 3 commits : i backed up my WTF and Addon folder ; deleted everything, then WAU installed those addons |
| 00:29.02 | orionshock | Xinhuan: im gonna shoot you... in the foot |
| 00:29.21 | orionshock | :D |
| 00:29.25 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r52077 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 00:29.25 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:29.25 | CIA-12 | - Added more 2.3 recipes (all commented out right now) They show up in the localization file however so feel free to translate. |
| 00:29.26 | Xinhuan | ow |
| 00:30.19 | orionshock | only reason i say that is because your both smart enough to fix it yourself, and have the access to do so |
| 00:30.28 | ZealotOnAStick | ~seen Punkie`afk |
| 00:30.31 | purl | ZealotOnAStick: i haven't seen 'punkie`afk' |
| 00:30.36 | Xinhuan | i'm busy ;p |
| 00:30.37 | ZealotOnAStick | ~seen Punkie` |
| 00:30.38 | purl | punkie` <i=9266Punk@server1.bouncer4you.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 4d 7h 30m 1s ago, saying: 'MANOWAR^: you can do something like, /castsequence Frost Nova, Ice Lance though'. |
| 00:38.25 | CIA-12 | 03celellach * r52078 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 00:38.25 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:38.25 | CIA-12 | - Split the Rare mounts page into 2 - One for the original wow rare mounts, the second for the Burning Crusade ones. |
| 00:38.25 | CIA-12 | - Added the new AB alliance hunter/shaman set |
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| 00:40.27 | orionshock | now to log back in and see my UI Assplode |
| 00:40.30 | CIA-12 | 03celellach * r52079 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (BattlegroundPvP.en.lua sets.en.lua): |
| 00:40.30 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 00:40.30 | CIA-12 | - Split the Rare mounts page into 2 - One for the original wow rare mounts, the second for the Burning Crusade ones. |
| 00:40.30 | CIA-12 | - Added the Engineering mounts to the rare mounts page. |
| 00:40.30 | CIA-12 | - Added drop boss and location to the ZA bear mount. |
| 00:40.32 | CIA-12 | - Added most new AB items. |
| 00:40.34 | CIA-12 | - Added Hammer of Righteous Might (new item in 2.3) to the crafted epic weapons page. |
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| 00:44.35 | orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9210 |
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| 00:44.58 | orionshock | i just don't understand how exactly he made it to 70 with out being able to think.... |
| 00:46.16 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52080 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Jan'alai.lua Malacrass.lua): BigWigs: Zul'Aman/Malacrass: change heal trigger |
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| 00:47.08 | Dezzimal | is there a way to fake target something so that other people's bossmods will enable? |
| 00:47.31 | orionshock | Dezzimal: this is useful how? |
| 00:47.56 | Dezzimal | so I can turn on ZA bossmods in the middle of BT to mess with people? |
| 00:48.09 | Funkeh` | no |
| 00:49.56 | Gngsk | couldn't you manually trigger the event? |
| 00:50.18 | Funkeh` | no, because you need to zone into the instance for the LoD to trigger |
| 00:50.43 | orionshock | you'd need yet another mod to do that.... virus mods... the idea sickens me |
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| 00:51.08 | Dezzimal | orionshock: wow what are you, a Jedi? |
| 00:51.15 | Dezzimal | I sense a disturbance in the mod force |
| 00:51.16 | orionshock | yes |
| 00:51.22 | Kerafyrm | 90 Jedi SWG here :) |
| 00:51.27 | Kerafyrm | ohhh oops sorry :P |
| 00:52.18 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r52081 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 00:52.18 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:52.19 | CIA-12 | - Added more 2.3 recipes |
| 00:52.41 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:56.16 | Funkeh` | Lol at some raid leaders, DBM has a low health frame for Najentus, go downlaod it healers |
| 00:56.28 | Funkeh` | Hi any decent raid frames? |
| 00:56.57 | orionshock | x-perl? |
| 00:56.59 | dodga | Uuuuh low health frame aiiiiiie |
| 00:57.22 | durcyn | gonna have to ask you to stop making so much sense, Funkeh`. |
| 00:57.23 | Arrowmaster | rofl was wiping on leo as i was tanking the split demon and i went for like 2 minutes without a healer before they reset him |
| 00:57.41 | orionshock | Arrowmaster: druid? |
| 00:57.47 | Arrowmaster | warlock |
| 00:58.02 | orionshock | 2mins pift |
| 00:58.12 | Arrowmaster | i resisted so much that the 45 second debuff wore off of me |
| 00:58.13 | orionshock | i know locks that tank'ed Rag for 5 |
| 00:58.18 | Hjalte | Guys, what's the lowest rated arena teams you have seen? I just saw someone with 1076 rating in 2v2 >. |
| 00:58.33 | Funkeh` | durcyn, >> |
| 00:58.36 | Keias | I've seen an 800 |
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| 00:58.42 | Keias | All intentional losses though |
| 01:00.31 | Kerafyrm | why thou? |
| 01:00.31 | Hjalte | Keias: why intentional? |
| 01:01.00 | Funkeh` | Intentional is cruise control for cool |
| 01:01.19 | Keias | Just to be funny I guess |
| 01:05.15 | Funkeh` | lol http://image.bayimg.com/pahboaabj.jpg |
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| 01:06.28 | Kerafyrm | Funkeh`: ROFL! |
| 01:06.31 | Kerafyrm | thats awesome |
| 01:08.12 | orionshock | Funkeh`: thats on PTR? |
| 01:08.36 | Funkeh` | Silly question? :P ofc! |
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| 01:14.08 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r52082 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 01:14.08 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 01:14.09 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 01:19.48 | kenlyric|laptop | wtf is that filename? |
| 01:19.55 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r52083 10Squeenix/Hidebuttons.lua: |
| 01:19.55 | CIA-12 | Squeenix: |
| 01:19.55 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 01:19.55 | kenlyric|laptop | pahboaabj? |
| 01:32.43 | theoddone33 | so far it's taken my guild 4 1/2 hours to down moroes and opera event |
| 01:32.50 | theoddone33 | 90% of it standing around waiting for thingss |
| 01:34.18 | kenlyric|laptop | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:34.24 | theoddone33 | but we got romulo and julianne on the second try, which is better than I was expecting |
| 01:34.25 | kenlyric|laptop | it will NEVER get any better. |
| 01:34.38 | kenlyric|laptop | no, you're compensating |
| 01:34.42 | kenlyric|laptop | it will only get worse |
| 01:34.59 | theoddone33 | I don't mind |
| 01:35.05 | theoddone33 | well |
| 01:35.06 | theoddone33 | I do mind |
| 01:35.15 | theoddone33 | but I'm not in this guild because I want heavy progression |
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| 01:36.29 | kenlyric|laptop | there's a difference between slow progression and complete fail. |
| 01:36.37 | orionshock | heavy proression .... sitting arround for 4hrs with your thumb up ur ass... ? |
| 01:36.39 | kenlyric|laptop | I think somewhere pass the three hour mark is complete fail |
| 01:36.41 | orionshock | am i missing something here? |
| 01:37.01 | Xinhuan | what's the waiting for? |
| 01:37.29 | theoddone33 | switching people in the raid, repairs, waiting for people who DC'd, and a little of who knows |
| 01:37.38 | kenlyric|laptop | repairs? |
| 01:37.43 | kenlyric|laptop | 8 wipes to moroes? |
| 01:37.54 | theoddone33 | naw |
| 01:37.55 | Xinhuan | the trash is 5-mannable o_O (or less) |
| 01:37.56 | kenlyric|laptop | oh, let me guess, three or four to ushers. |
| 01:38.11 | theoddone33 | not really any full wipes |
| 01:38.25 | theoddone33 | except when they started the opera event while we were all back by moroes trash |
| 01:38.30 | theoddone33 | to see which one it was |
| 01:38.45 | Xinhuan | why would that matter |
| 01:38.48 | theoddone33 | 3 tries on moroes, 2 tries on romulo |
| 01:38.52 | kenlyric|laptop | 3 hours is how long it should take for those two steps if you are raiding with mouthbreathers. |
| 01:39.12 | kenlyric|laptop | 4 and half means active resistance. |
| 01:39.43 | kenlyric|laptop | I suggest you may have enemies in the raid. |
| 01:40.27 | theoddone33 | I don't really even know what most of the waiting is for |
| 01:40.39 | theoddone33 | but luckily no loot I need ever drops anyway |
| 01:40.56 | theoddone33 | so it's pretty much a complete waste of an afternoon |
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| 01:41.55 | Xinhuan | end the raid already |
| 01:42.02 | Xinhuan | pushing a raid beyond 5 hours is an endurance test |
| 01:42.07 | orionshock | well sounds like your about as screwed as me, my druid - all upgrades are into kara |
| 01:42.14 | theoddone33 | it's over now |
| 01:42.20 | theoddone33 | 2 bosses down woo! |
| 01:42.39 | theoddone33 | that was actually finishing the raid from earlier in the week |
| 01:42.51 | theoddone33 | when they downed attumen and maiden but couldn't get moroes |
| 01:43.11 | kenlyric|laptop | sounds like my horde guild. |
| 01:43.37 | Xinhuan | my fastest kara run is 2 hours 57 minutes for a full clear! hehe. fullclear means every boss down except for Animal Boss and Netherspite (we skip those) |
| 01:43.53 | kenlyric|laptop | butbutbut |
| 01:43.57 | kenlyric|laptop | animal boss! |
| 01:44.12 | Xinhuan | there's actually a spawn timer to do him, screw that |
| 01:44.16 | kenlyric|laptop | does animal boss drop badges? |
| 01:44.23 | Xinhuan | no. |
| 01:44.27 | Xinhuan | they drop random suffixed items |
| 01:44.30 | Funkeh` | its not a boss |
| 01:44.32 | orionshock | kara clear is not with out an animal boss or 2, it's like saying "we clear MC but dont do rag" |
| 01:44.33 | Xinhuan | like Lurker Boots of the Whale |
| 01:44.43 | Funkeh` | its level 69 elite iirc |
| 01:44.43 | kenlyric|laptop | thanks, I know what they drop now. |
| 01:44.55 | Xinhuan | pfft, name me a guild on your server that clears the animal boss every week ;p |
| 01:45.07 | kenlyric|laptop | my horde guild |
| 01:45.14 | kenlyric|laptop | well, except the weeks they wipe to animal boss. |
| 01:45.52 | theoddone33 | I'd love to raid efficiently |
| 01:46.07 | theoddone33 | or with progression in mind |
| 01:46.16 | theoddone33 | but I'd have to pretend I was a better healer |
| 01:47.33 | theoddone33 | I'm still learning how to play my class so I might as well be in a guild where some people are still learning how to play theirs after 2 years |
| 01:47.53 | Xinhuan | some rerolled maybe |
| 01:47.58 | Xinhuan | not fair to say its 2 years |
| 01:48.18 | theoddone33 | I think most rerolled |
| 01:48.25 | theoddone33 | but a couple are from the old days |
| 01:48.33 | theoddone33 | it's fine, they're all nice people and I enjoy the guild |
| 01:49.22 | Xinhuan | how many healers/tanks did your raid have |
| 01:49.27 | theoddone33 | 2/2 |
| 01:49.37 | Xinhuan | shadow priest? |
| 01:49.43 | theoddone33 | yeah we had one |
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| 01:50.49 | kenlyric|laptop | i like my horde guild. But I'd never raid with them. |
| 01:51.21 | Xinhuan | what server? |
| 01:53.30 | Xinhuan | hmm i calculate that it will take 1400g to get Shen'drala rep to exalted |
| 01:53.37 | Xinhuan | at prevailing market prices on my server |
| 01:53.40 | Xinhuan | from neutral |
| 01:53.52 | kenlyric|laptop | that's not bad |
| 01:53.55 | kenlyric|laptop | but, why? |
| 01:54.03 | Xinhuan | i like doing pointless things |
| 01:54.03 | kenlyric|laptop | want 20% discount on dire maul runs? |
| 01:54.07 | Xinhuan | like calculating such stuff ;p |
| 01:54.42 | Balstor | how are you rasing Shen'drala rep? |
| 01:54.49 | Xinhuan | you turn in heaps of librams |
| 01:54.57 | Xinhuan | yu can buy the pristine diamonds, LBS |
| 01:55.14 | Balstor | so the librams give rep on the 2nd turn in? |
| 01:55.16 | fitz__ | didn't they "fix" that some time ago, making libram quests grant no rep? |
| 01:55.17 | Xinhuan | and farm the other mats which is blood of heroes or stictches or the shadow thing |
| 01:55.23 | Xinhuan | yes 500 rep each |
| 01:55.29 | Xinhuan | i dont know about that one fltz |
| 01:55.41 | Balstor | they fixed the class librams |
| 01:56.00 | Xinhuan | i think librams still give rep |
| 01:56.04 | Xinhuan | only the class ones don't |
| 01:56.08 | fitz__ | "Since patch 1.10 the class book turn-ins can no longer be repeated, in Patch 2.0 the reputation per libram has increased from 200 to 500." |
| 01:56.11 | fitz__ | right you are, then |
| 01:56.41 | fitz__ | did you calculate the effect on price that buying enough librams to raise your rep to exalted would have? ;) |
| 01:57.11 | Xinhuan | no, because buying 84 librams will hardly affect the market |
| 01:57.18 | Xinhuan | for 42000 rep |
| 01:57.27 | Xinhuan | when there is usually 10-20 up at any time |
| 01:57.32 | Xinhuan | for like 2g |
| 01:58.03 | fitz__ | probably not appreciably, no |
| 01:58.08 | fitz__ | anway, off to buy some lunch |
| 01:59.03 | Balstor | kael is causeing sooo mutch drama |
| 01:59.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: only 1400g? that's not bad. |
| 01:59.20 | JoshBorke | kael is a drama queen |
| 01:59.25 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 01:59.34 | Xinhuan | kaelten or kael'thas |
| 02:00.03 | Balstor | kael'thas |
| 02:00.16 | kenlyric|laptop | kael'thas is just a queen. |
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| 02:02.51 | durcyn | http://kaelthasraiding.ytmnd.com |
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| 02:16.18 | orionshock | stubby dosn't like some of the brew fest items :( |
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| 02:18.29 | Xinhuan | someone start a conversation please |
| 02:18.37 | Xinhuan | there i started one |
| 02:18.55 | orionshock | Tekkub: |
| 02:19.01 | kadrahil | how do you extend the combat log range? |
| 02:19.11 | kadrahil | don't see any options in violation |
| 02:19.17 | Xinhuan | edit config.wtf and change the numbers |
| 02:19.24 | orionshock | Tekkub: nmd |
| 02:19.28 | fitz__ | ~. |
| 02:19.29 | purl | . |
| 02:19.30 | Tekkub | screw you |
| 02:19.42 | fitz__ | screen got stuck |
| 02:19.47 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 02:19.56 | orionshock | :D you changed one of the icons and i wanted to know what it was... then i thought of the obvious... |
| 02:20.01 | kadrahil | that would mean i have to restart wow, in the middle of gruul |
| 02:20.03 | kadrahil | fail |
| 02:20.19 | fitz__ | quick /reloadui during a groundslam! |
| 02:20.30 | kadrahil | hah |
| 02:20.39 | kadrahil | first attempt tonight was 47% |
| 02:20.42 | kadrahil | at 7 grows |
| 02:20.46 | Gngsk | /print GetCVar("CombatLogPartyRange") |
| 02:20.55 | Gngsk | what's the max range blizz will allow you to set it to? |
| 02:21.02 | fitz__ | kadrahil, healers or tanks messed up? |
| 02:21.03 | durcyn | 200 |
| 02:21.05 | kadrahil | Message: [string "Rock("LibRockConsole-1.0"):PrintLiteral(Get..."] line 1: |
| 02:21.06 | kadrahil | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.16 | kadrahil | fitz__: not sure |
| 02:21.26 | Gngsk | kadrahil, my typo sorry, RangeParty not PartyRange |
| 02:21.27 | Xinhuan | Gngsk, that's only 1 out of some 20 combatlog range variables |
| 02:21.30 | kadrahil | Gngsk: ok |
| 02:21.37 | Gngsk | and RangePartyPet as well |
| 02:21.38 | Xinhuan | hence editing config.wtf is faster |
| 02:21.42 | durcyn | not 20. 6 or so. |
| 02:21.58 | kadrahil | raneparty still couldn't be found |
| 02:22.00 | Xinhuan | no its around 20, because there are miscellaneous ones |
| 02:22.09 | orionshock | wtf assessment has a log range |
| 02:22.11 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: nooblet: CombatLogRangeParty |
| 02:22.13 | kadrahil | err |
| 02:22.19 | kadrahil | yeah i pasted the wrong thing |
| 02:22.28 | JoshBorke | i should come gank you |
| 02:22.32 | kadrahil | it's 50 |
| 02:22.34 | Xinhuan | there is friendly range, hostile range, party range, and a heap of other things that doesn't affect your party as well |
| 02:22.35 | JoshBorke | except i'd get my ass kicked |
| 02:22.43 | kadrahil | brb gruul |
| 02:23.14 | Xinhuan | and a heap of combatlog range variables that doesn't involve combat, like tradeskills and stuff i think |
| 02:25.45 | Balstor | anyone got a idea of how to kill the weapons on kael'thas |
| 02:26.32 | Balstor | great video : http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/14/when-calling-shotgun-goes-bad/ |
| 02:26.32 | durcyn | shoot them. |
| 02:26.35 | fitz__ | for _,r in pairs({'Creature','FriendlyPlayers','FriendlyPlayersPets','HostilePlayers','HostilePlayersPets','Party','PartyPet'}) do SetCVar("CombatLog"..r,50) end |
| 02:26.38 | Gngsk | durcyn, tank then shoot |
| 02:27.15 | fitz__ | with /script on the front, I guess |
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| 02:27.38 | fitz__ | uh |
| 02:27.45 | fitz__ | /script for _,r in pairs({'Creature','FriendlyPlayers','FriendlyPlayersPets','HostilePlayers','HostilePlayersPets','Party','PartyPet'}) do SetCVar("CombatLogRange"..r,50) end |
| 02:27.48 | fitz__ | heh. |
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| 02:29.55 | kadrahil | 26% that time |
| 02:30.00 | kadrahil | we're letting our pally main tank this time |
| 02:30.15 | Xinhuan | :0 |
| 02:30.21 | Xinhuan | meant to type :) |
| 02:30.33 | Xinhuan | pot up and you'll have a kill |
| 02:30.47 | Xinhuan | with 10% more dps |
| 02:31.52 | Tekkub | orionshock, Sure I can disable them, but then they just turn themselves right back on. |
| 02:31.57 | Tekkub | ah fucking copy |
| 02:32.09 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.09 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TourGuide |
| 02:32.13 | Tekkub | there we are |
| 02:32.25 | orionshock | Tekkub: ? |
| 02:32.30 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TourGuide ! |
| 02:32.51 | Gngsk | should add a ding icon imo |
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| 02:34.08 | Kerafyrm | wow, grats Tekkub |
| 02:34.11 | Kerafyrm | can't wait to try it out |
| 02:34.14 | Xinhuan | is tourguide a leveling guide? |
| 02:34.36 | Tekkub | read the damn wiki page |
| 02:34.49 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 02:34.53 | Gngsk | it's more of a mod that can play a leveling guide |
| 02:34.54 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 02:36.10 | orionshock | Tekkub: adding the name of the NPC that gives the quest -- Awsome idea :D |
| 02:36.11 | orionshock | :D |
| 02:36.44 | orionshock | but something tells me that that has more to do with who writes the guide than the mod itself |
| 02:36.46 | fitz__ | tekkub, cool idea |
| 02:36.50 | Tekkub | I vote "wait for patch 2.3" |
| 02:37.24 | Tekkub | yes, it depends on the author, but I think providing directions to the location if they are hard to find is better |
| 02:37.26 | orionshock | something special in 2.3? |
| 02:37.45 | Tekkub | like the one guy in Booty Bay... "In the house opposite the upside-down half boat" |
| 02:37.53 | orionshock | not finding it no, just the name of the NPC |
| 02:37.56 | orionshock | nothing more |
| 02:38.01 | Tekkub | 2.3 gives you ! and ? minimap tracking |
| 02:38.10 | Tekkub | the name is useless |
| 02:38.11 | orionshock | 2.3 get out! |
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| 02:38.32 | Tekkub | coords or directions are useful, but I don't want coord spam |
| 02:38.37 | orionshock | *in2.3 ?? get out! |
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| 02:38.53 | fitz__ | have they released guild banks to the PTRs yet? |
| 02:39.04 | Kerafyrm | no |
| 02:39.04 | Tekkub | yes, you can track basically all types of friendly NPCs in 2.3 |
| 02:39.05 | orionshock | ok if 2.3 gives us ! and ? tracking then im cool |
| 02:39.16 | Kerafyrm | i think they are trying to fix copies to the pve ptr first |
| 02:39.16 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 02:39.45 | Tekkub | yea fix the fucking PvE so I can copy my mid-levels ovel and get some fucking numbers for the quest exp increase |
| 02:39.59 | Tekkub | all I was able to get from PvP were ~lv35 quests |
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| 02:40.53 | Tekkub | BTW, ~30% more exp from lv 37 quest |
| 02:40.56 | Tekkub | :) |
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| 02:41.35 | fitz__ | tekkub, it's supposed to be +30% across the board from 30 to 60 |
| 02:41.49 | Tekkub | no, they never gave hard numbers |
| 02:42.03 | Tekkub | and they implied it was higher at 60 |
| 02:42.32 | Xinhuan | fairly sure they will adjust the numbers as ptr2.3 goes along |
| 02:42.39 | Xinhuan | so getting any figures now won't be too useful |
| 02:43.30 | Tekkub | oh someone posted a few numbers, gotta add em |
| 02:44.25 | NimbleRabit | Anyone ever have conflicts when trying to overwrite poisons? |
| 02:44.30 | NimbleRabit | where it says an addon has a conflict |
| 02:44.48 | Xinhuan | heard of such a conflict before |
| 02:44.56 | Xinhuan | the solution is to click off the poison then apply it |
| 02:45.01 | Xinhuan | or find out which addon causes it |
| 02:45.05 | Funkeh` | How do I get details for a frame I know the name of, similar to GetMouseFocus() |
| 02:45.08 | NimbleRabit | the addon seems to change every time it happens |
| 02:45.25 | Xinhuan | well you haven't narrowed it down then |
| 02:45.40 | Xinhuan | details? |
| 02:45.50 | Xinhuan | just /print framename |
| 02:45.55 | Xinhuan | prints out all the details |
| 02:46.35 | NimbleRabit | clicking off... |
| 02:46.37 | NimbleRabit | why didn't I think of that |
| 02:46.39 | NimbleRabit | thanks |
| 03:00.16 | Fisker- | This is me |
| 03:00.22 | Fisker- | i attack without warning |
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| 03:01.36 | JoshBorke | mass dispel! |
| 03:01.54 | Fisker- | nope |
| 03:02.02 | Fisker- | i got additional spellhitz0r |
| 03:02.21 | kadrahil | ugh |
| 03:02.24 | Fisker- | pew pew lasers and so forth |
| 03:02.31 | kadrahil | gruul still isn't down, after 2 freaking months of attempts |
| 03:02.37 | kadrahil | i don't get it |
| 03:02.46 | kadrahil | we do fine on shatters, dps is fine |
| 03:02.47 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 03:02.47 | Corgan | Fisker! |
| 03:02.49 | fitz__ | how many growths are you surviving to? |
| 03:02.52 | Xinhuan | narrow down the issue |
| 03:02.54 | Xinhuan | what is it? |
| 03:02.56 | Fisker- | then you must use hax kadrahil |
| 03:03.03 | kadrahil | we had him at 45% or so at 7 growths |
| 03:03.18 | fitz__ | you need to keep both MT and OT alive for 12 growths or more |
| 03:03.20 | Xinhuan | that doesn't explain much about the cause of wipe |
| 03:03.23 | CIA-12 | 03fenlis * r52084 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 03:03.23 | CIA-12 | StatLogicLib: |
| 03:03.23 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.24 | fitz__ | we've had MT+OT up at 16 growths |
| 03:03.25 | kadrahil | i know |
| 03:03.36 | kadrahil | i think our heals were lacking |
| 03:03.43 | Xinhuan | who is dying? |
| 03:03.44 | fitz__ | we had trouble with Reverberations |
| 03:03.44 | Xinhuan | and why |
| 03:03.58 | kadrahil | i honestly dont' remember, i didn't save the combat log |
| 03:03.59 | fitz__ | keep HoTs up, if you have a prot war handy have them Intercept one hit during Reverb |
| 03:04.03 | kadrahil | and i've already logged out |
| 03:04.15 | Xinhuan | i have 2 simple suggestions |
| 03:04.33 | kadrahil | 1) don't suck |
| 03:04.34 | fitz__ | assign three healers to each tank, their only job is to heal their respective tanks, let your DPS bandage or pot |
| 03:04.35 | kadrahil | 2) moar healz |
| 03:04.36 | Xinhuan | 1. when Gruul is on 30%, have your MT eat a Ironshield Potion. that reduces damage per hit by 1000 |
| 03:04.57 | Xinhuan | 2. when bigwigs says "silence soon", have all your healers cast a HoT on the MT |
| 03:05.15 | kadrahil | yeah, we started casting hots on the tank when the silence was almost up |
| 03:05.16 | Xinhuan | 3. your dps should bandage, not rely on heals |
| 03:05.17 | fitz__ | "silence soon" means any time in the next 15-20sec |
| 03:05.19 | kadrahil | that got us down to 30% or so |
| 03:05.24 | Fisker- | perhaps discuss having a paladin using his shield or blessing of protection |
| 03:05.25 | kadrahil | yeah our dps was using stone and bandages |
| 03:05.31 | kadrahil | stones |
| 03:05.39 | Xinhuan | believe me, that ironshield potion helps heaps ;p |
| 03:05.44 | fitz__ | make sure your tanks move out of Cave-Ins too |
| 03:05.46 | kadrahil | ok, i'll suggest it to the tank |
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| 03:05.56 | kadrahil | heh yeah |
| 03:06.15 | Xinhuan | also your MT should shield wall (if its a warrior) at around boss 25%, he should reach 10-15% or so by the time shield wall ends |
| 03:06.28 | Xinhuan | and if he dies after, SPAM heals on the 2nd tank |
| 03:06.31 | Xinhuan | and zerg it down |
| 03:06.43 | fitz__ | from growth 9+ all three healers on each tank should be doing nothing but spamming heals |
| 03:06.56 | Tairom | anyone around that could try to help me with a WAU issue? |
| 03:07.07 | fitz__ | if you need it, have a 7th healer whose job is purely to heal the healers |
| 03:07.44 | Xinhuan | make sure the tank moves out of caveins |
| 03:08.01 | Silowyi | is there an addon on the wua that allows you to resize your viewport (I.E. add a letterbox, etc...) |
| 03:08.03 | fitz__ | main things for tank surviving is moving out of cave-ins and dealing with reverberation |
| 03:08.38 | fitz__ | our MT runs with ~19k health, dunno what sort of armor he's sporting |
| 03:08.43 | Xinhuan | yes Silowyi, but the name escapes me atm |
| 03:09.06 | Xinhuan | oh and make sure your MT is using a titans flask of course |
| 03:09.19 | Silowyi | fitz__: server and MT's name? |
| 03:09.24 | Xinhuan | and food buffs |
| 03:09.38 | fitz__ | Uther (US), Dragos |
| 03:09.55 | Tairom | anyone know how to get Cartographer to update through WAU? I keep getting "Skipping (Protected)" |
| 03:10.03 | fitz__ | 16k on armory |
| 03:10.24 | Xinhuan | Tairom, make sure the folder isn't "read only" |
| 03:10.25 | orionshock | Tairom: cart 1 or cart2? |
| 03:10.32 | fitz__ | +2k for shout, dunno where he gets that extra 1k, food buffs wouldn't be that much |
| 03:10.36 | Tairom | let me look, 1 sec |
| 03:10.56 | orionshock | Tairom: better said - "Cartographer" or "Cartographer1" |
| 03:10.59 | fitz__ | OT Tartuff |
| 03:11.05 | Fisker- | Tairom also if you have .svn in the folder it'll skip it |
| 03:11.12 | Tairom | ok it was set to read-only for some reason. thanks |
| 03:11.19 | fitz__ | who conveniently logged out in his tanking gear |
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| 03:11.44 | Tairom | ok so also delete the .svn folder? it does exist |
| 03:11.55 | orionshock | yes |
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| 03:12.04 | orionshock | wait wait |
| 03:12.19 | orionshock | do you also have Cart1? |
| 03:12.21 | Silowyi | ~c us Uther Dragos |
| 03:12.26 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 03:12.29 | Silowyi | what did I do wrong? |
| 03:12.36 | Silowyi | !c us Uther Dragos |
| 03:12.36 | fitz__ | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Uther&n=Dragos |
| 03:12.38 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Dragos, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (12/5/44). 16069 HP; 16550 Armour; 748 AP; 139.500 Melee DPS; 12.11% melee crit; 17 melee hit; 12 +spell dmg/heal; 360 defense; 25.39% dodge; 25.08% block; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 632 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22t24a ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v5p99 ][ Updated: Sun Oct 14 23:14:50 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:12.41 | fitz__ | or that |
| 03:12.43 | Tairom | ok that did the trick, it caught it that time |
| 03:12.47 | orionshock | ! for ThraeBot and ~ for purl |
| 03:12.56 | Silowyi | uh... 12 +spell dmg/heal? |
| 03:13.09 | Silowyi | 360 defense...? |
| 03:13.11 | fitz__ | MotW? |
| 03:13.12 | orionshock | caster warrior |
| 03:13.23 | Silowyi | motw doesn't add damage and healing |
| 03:13.24 | fitz__ | showing 502 def on armory |
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| 03:13.39 | Silowyi | ThraeBot is probably lying then |
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| 03:14.05 | fitz__ | no spelldam on any of his gear or buffs that I can see |
| 03:14.25 | Silowyi | your tank has more than good enough gear for Gruul |
| 03:14.46 | fitz__ | that tank is our tank, he's in 4/5 T4 |
| 03:14.48 | fitz__ | we can kill Gruul |
| 03:15.02 | fitz__ | kadrahil'sthe one having trouble |
| 03:15.13 | Arrowmaster | thraebot lists defense rating not defense afaik |
| 03:15.22 | fitz__ | right, def rating 360 |
| 03:15.38 | fitz__ | still curious about that spell damage! |
| 03:16.16 | Silowyi | oh |
| 03:16.20 | Silowyi | I misunderstood |
| 03:16.22 | orionshock | prolly a buff or some off piece pally thing |
| 03:16.41 | durcyn | improved divine spirit. |
| 03:16.45 | fitz__ | no pally gear on him |
| 03:16.50 | fitz__ | ya, he has divine spirit |
| 03:16.54 | fitz__ | didn't know that added spelldam! |
| 03:17.01 | durcyn | it does with the disc talent. |
| 03:17.08 | fitz__ | well there you go |
| 03:17.12 | Xinhuan | except he's a warrior |
| 03:17.18 | fitz__ | Prayer of Spirit |
| 03:17.25 | Silowyi | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33182 |
| 03:17.38 | fitz__ | might've had a 'lock in his party for an imp buff |
| 03:17.38 | Silowyi | yup he has 121 spirit, lol |
| 03:17.48 | Silowyi | 10% of 121 = 12 |
| 03:17.53 | fitz__ | !c us Uther Killabeez |
| 03:17.56 | ThraeBot | fitz__: Killabeez, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 16489 HP; 16286 Armour; 780 AP; 141.800 Melee DPS; 10.84% melee crit; 25 melee hit; 327 defense; 18.74% dodge; 24.31% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 592 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr33gv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mcqlu ][ Updated: Sun Oct 14 23:20:08 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:17.57 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 03:18.03 | fitz__ | that's our other tank, but he's kinda vanished lately :( |
| 03:18.18 | Silowyi | what's your char's name fitz? |
| 03:18.25 | fitz__ | Tieb |
| 03:18.32 | Silowyi | !vs us whisperwind latency us uther Tieb |
| 03:18.37 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Latency vs Tieb! A L70 mage and a L70 druid square off!; 0/7/54 vs 44/0/17; Tieb wins by 387 TBRs! |
| 03:18.38 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 03:18.43 | Silowyi | :( |
| 03:18.47 | fitz__ | I respecced from deep Feral to full Balance four days ago |
| 03:18.57 | fitz__ | so my gear is ... weak |
| 03:19.00 | Silowyi | !vs us whisperwind silowyi us uther Tieb |
| 03:19.02 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Silowyi vs Tieb! Two 70 druids square off!; 0/46/15 vs 44/0/17; Tieb wins by 604 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 03:19.11 | fitz__ | wtf is a TBR? |
| 03:19.15 | Silowyi | blargh, I needed to log out in forms |
| 03:19.22 | Silowyi | Thrae Battle Rating or some such |
| 03:19.25 | fitz__ | oh right |
| 03:19.30 | Silowyi | ThraeBot Rating I think |
| 03:19.33 | fitz__ | ya, boomkin efficiency doesn't gain much from the form |
| 03:19.53 | fitz__ | my cat gear put me at something like 3k ap 35% crit w/ 9k or so health, anyway |
| 03:20.06 | Silowyi | kinda low crit wise |
| 03:20.09 | fitz__ | yeah :( |
| 03:20.31 | Silowyi | Sil logged out in tanking gear, in caster form |
| 03:20.31 | fitz__ | needed more agil going on |
| 03:20.32 | Silowyi | no wonder |
| 03:20.33 | Silowyi | lol |
| 03:20.41 | Silowyi | Agi >>>>> Str now |
| 03:20.42 | fitz__ | armory always assumes caster form, I believe |
| 03:20.48 | Silowyi | before it was Agi >> Str |
| 03:20.52 | fitz__ | yeah |
| 03:20.55 | Silowyi | now it's Agi >>>>> Str |
| 03:21.17 | fitz__ | pity all our tier gear favours str |
| 03:21.18 | Silowyi | nah Armory goes with whatever buffs/stats your char screen says, so if you log out in bear, it shows bear |
| 03:21.27 | fitz__ | hm, interesting |
| 03:21.46 | Silowyi | Well... the thing is, the tier gear is actually very well balanced if you don't have any buffs... |
| 03:21.49 | fitz__ | I was cracking 10k ac in oomkin form with Inspiration, I reckon I can crack 25k if I throw on my bear gear |
| 03:22.06 | Silowyi | but the vast imbalance of AP buffs to crit buffs makes agi much more valuable in a raid situation. |
| 03:22.17 | fitz__ | Kings = ftw! |
| 03:22.19 | Silowyi | moonkin tank? :P |
| 03:22.24 | orionshock | ive cracked 29k AC in bear form w/ insperation and asteral fort |
| 03:22.26 | fitz__ | I was Feral |
| 03:22.28 | Comxx | ~seen antiarc |
| 03:22.30 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 40m 4s) #wowace (2h 40m 4s), last said: 'Hahaha'. |
| 03:22.34 | fitz__ | so I have a full set of bear gear |
| 03:22.39 | fitz__ | (now banked) |
| 03:22.46 | fitz__ | and a full set of cat gear (no room in bank) |
| 03:22.47 | Antiarc | I'm here |
| 03:22.48 | Antiarc | Sorta |
| 03:22.50 | Antiarc | In TKE |
| 03:23.00 | fitz__ | full T4 will get you there, silowyi :) |
| 03:23.09 | Silowyi | almost full T4 |
| 03:23.13 | fitz__ | 4/5 ? |
| 03:23.15 | Silowyi | I use T5 shoulders atm |
| 03:23.16 | orionshock | hehe .. druids ... we are sorta over powered |
| 03:23.28 | Silowyi | orionshock |
| 03:23.32 | Silowyi | here's the way it works |
| 03:23.36 | Comxx | H hey Antiarc when you going to make a Hemlock 2 Rock version =) |
| 03:23.49 | fitz__ | we'd be totally overpowered if we were warriors with 30k+ armor |
| 03:23.54 | orionshock | Comxx: why? |
| 03:24.00 | Silowyi | Druids are OP in Karazhan. |
| 03:24.08 | Silowyi | Druids are good in Gruul, Mag |
| 03:24.18 | Silowyi | Druids start to get week in SSC/TK... |
| 03:24.29 | Antiarc | a) when I get time, b) when I care enough to convert it to another framework |
| 03:24.36 | Silowyi | Druids suck in Hyjal/BT... so... they buffed us... the AP gain is huge. |
| 03:24.46 | Comxx | lol k |
| 03:25.00 | ZealotOnAStick | we've done a couple of Hyjal bosses with only Ferals. |
| 03:25.02 | fitz__ | which AP gain? from the HotW change? |
| 03:25.15 | Silowyi | so now Druids are OP until Mag, Good in SSC and TK, and can keep up in Hyjal and BT until most of your raid is in full T6 |
| 03:25.21 | Silowyi | HotW change and weapon change. |
| 03:25.37 | fitz__ | ya well, I was still farming arena pts for my S2 mace when I respecced |
| 03:25.56 | fitz__ | gave up on Illhoof dropping his staff, and he's now moved back to the mid-week raid for farming, and I can't make that raid |
| 03:26.00 | fitz__ | (never did get my T4 hat, either) |
| 03:26.13 | fitz__ | so it's the Dreamer's Dragonstaff for my oomkin melee mana regen form! |
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| 03:26.22 | Comxx | Sorry Antiarc i just miss hemlock =( |
| 03:26.31 | Silowyi | ZealotOnAStick: I primarily meant in terms of DPS, druids are viable tanks throughout BT/Hyjal, but warriors end game gear up to the point where their mitigation approaches ours, and their "oh shit buttons" compare quite favorably to "frenzied lolgen" |
| 03:26.33 | Corgan | moonkin ftw :D |
| 03:26.35 | Antiarc | Miss it? What's preventing you from using it? |
| 03:27.00 | fitz__ | mages love having a moonkin around |
| 03:27.04 | Silowyi | afaik though Nihilum still uses a feral druid for one of the Illidan phases. |
| 03:27.31 | Xinhuan | nihilum isn't your typical guild ;p |
| 03:27.51 | durcyn | all you need is FR and defense cap for the flames, yeah. we use a paladin sometimes. |
| 03:27.52 | Corgan | frenziedlolgen XD |
| 03:27.58 | Silowyi | I think a big difference also is horde/alliance |
| 03:27.58 | Corgan | that thing should scale |
| 03:28.02 | Comxx | i still use it some times it just a pain when it only make two poison at a time |
| 03:28.25 | Silowyi | tauren racials make feral druids 5% better at tanking then night elf >.> |
| 03:28.33 | fitz__ | yay cowform! |
| 03:28.54 | Silowyi | so |
| 03:28.59 | Silowyi | someone praise Postal for me |
| 03:29.00 | fitz__ | silowyi, on the bright side, when alliance wipes it's 5% faster for the NEs to get back to the zone line! |
| 03:29.02 | orionshock | tbh is that 5% racial is going to be the make or brake point for a tank... you have other problems |
| 03:29.07 | Silowyi | trying it out now. |
| 03:29.24 | Xinhuan | 5% of 20k health is 1k |
| 03:29.26 | Xinhuan | 1000 is a lot |
| 03:29.34 | Corgan | ^ |
| 03:29.35 | kenlyric | Silowyi: postal is more powerful than paladin and undead priest tears COMBINED |
| 03:29.42 | Silowyi | Fitz__: yeah it's cool, you don't know how many times I've bitched at people for being so slow on running back... and no one has ever commented on the fact that I'm a night elf. |
| 03:29.46 | orionshock | how is 1k alot? - the bosses are often hitting for 3-4k anyways |
| 03:29.59 | Xinhuan | it is a lot because that 1k can kill |
| 03:30.03 | Corgan | Because it's still 1k more health |
| 03:30.09 | Xinhuan | 1k more healing buffer |
| 03:30.21 | Silowyi | Orionshock if you have 5k HP instead of 4k HP when the boss hits you for 4k... you live |
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| 03:30.45 | Silowyi | ROFL @ EBB "blessing of demonstration 13:37" |
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| 03:32.15 | orionshock | meh |
| 03:33.06 | kenlyric | 1 can kill |
| 03:33.56 | Comxx | •Antiarc• So I will wait until you have more time to look at it or learn how to code lua and fix. |
| 03:34.49 | orionshock | Comxx: he allready knows how to code... IE Threat-1.0 |
| 03:35.08 | Comxx | no sorry i meant me |
| 03:35.08 | fitz__ | I think commx meant commx would learn how, not antiarc ;) |
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| 03:36.50 | Neebler | http://azazel1944.deviantart.com/ not work safe. tasteful wow nude art :P |
| 03:37.11 | fitz__ | it's only art if you still enjoy looking at it after an orgasm |
| 03:37.17 | fitz__ | otherwise it's porn |
| 03:37.27 | Comxx | Antiarc is a Very Good at code im not lol |
| 03:38.02 | durcyn | Neebler: better not be any furries |
| 03:38.37 | Neebler | neg |
| 03:38.55 | fitz__ | trolls aren't furry |
| 03:39.00 | Silowyi | blargh |
| 03:39.11 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r639 10/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Importing EXPBlock |
| 03:39.18 | Silowyi | I want an addon that prevents other addons from being stupid and drawing windows outside the screen |
| 03:39.45 | RogueShadow | That doesn't seem like it'd be too hard. |
| 03:40.10 | orionshock | ya all you'd have to do is hook CreateFrame and SetPoint |
| 03:40.26 | Xinhuan | just write a loop that iterates all frames and :SetClampedToScreen(true) |
| 03:40.32 | Xinhuan | doesn't require hooking anything |
| 03:40.56 | orionshock | ya if you want the easy way :P |
| 03:42.04 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52085 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: |
| 03:42.04 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: |
| 03:42.04 | CIA-12 | - tweak default BigWigs frame position to under the Raid Warning frame, not over the bars |
| 03:42.04 | CIA-12 | - defaults to raid warning frame to take advantage of 2.3 flashy warnings |
| 03:42.04 | CIA-12 | - remove text shadow stuff, wasn't that great |
| 03:43.55 | Silowyi | what exactly does Postal do? |
| 03:44.10 | breser | Silowyi: Kills annoying guild mates. |
| 03:44.18 | orionshock | it prolly is bad considering that if someone goes postal they kill someone |
| 03:44.26 | orionshock | it prolly nukes your UI |
| 03:44.39 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.53 | orionshock | and watch the errors aspolde |
| 03:45.14 | breser | Wonder what happens if you actually do UIParent = nil |
| 03:45.27 | orionshock | you get auto-ban'ed from wow |
| 03:45.37 | orionshock | the 72 hr one |
| 03:45.48 | breser | lol |
| 03:46.20 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:50.34 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 03:50.41 | Silowyi | looks like I'll have to go back to ct_MailMod |
| 03:50.55 | Silowyi | no mass mail support in postal, and that's what I use ct_mailmod for most. |
| 03:50.57 | orionshock | Silowyi: bulkMail |
| 03:51.07 | orionshock | BulkMail2 |
| 03:53.48 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r52086 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 03:53.48 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 03:53.48 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 03:54.36 | durcyn | Silowyi: sure there is. install AltClickToAddItem along with it. |
| 03:54.54 | durcyn | Silowyi: set a recipient, altclick item, boom sent. repeat. |
| 03:55.14 | Wobwork | wouldn't you have to reenter the recipent? |
| 03:56.31 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52087 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:56.31 | CIA-12 | Threat-1.0: |
| 03:56.31 | CIA-12 | - Update zhTW translation. |
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| 03:59.44 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52088 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Malacrass: 87 bugfix |
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| 04:11.58 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r52089 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CustomFilters.lua: Prat: Added a new sink "Forward". Will forward the message to a chat channel (via SentChatMessage) |
| 04:13.13 | NightHawkTheSane | can you DE the epic gems that drop in heroics? |
| 04:13.37 | orionshock | yes |
| 04:13.52 | NightHawkTheSane | you can? |
| 04:13.54 | Keias | You sure? |
| 04:13.56 | sylvanaar | vendor |
| 04:13.58 | Keias | I've always just had to vendor them |
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| 04:24.35 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r52090 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CustomFilters.lua: Prat: bugfix for numbered channels |
| 04:32.24 | Fridgid | hey i've never done mouseovers before how do i hook mouseovers to work on certian frames |
| 04:32.37 | Fridgid | hook UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT? |
| 04:36.31 | dylanm | Fridgid: Just some frame? Or doing something with the game unit underneath the cursor? |
| 04:37.03 | Fridgid | just some frame |
| 04:37.13 | Fridgid | i have some frames i made which don't work with tinytip |
| 04:37.19 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r640 10/trunk/EXPBlock/EXPBlock.lua: EXPBlock - Added rest % to tooltip, changed tip text color |
| 04:37.20 | Fridgid | and i wanna know how to fix it |
| 04:37.52 | dylanm | Then you want to use widget event handlers like OnEnter and OnLeave and stuff. |
| 04:38.15 | soulless | know of any examples i could look at |
| 04:38.22 | soulless | i was parusing the tinytip code for hints |
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| 04:40.06 | Zhinjio | 2.3 is supposed to include guild banks? Is that correct? |
| 04:40.18 | ulic | Zhinjio: yes, but they aren't active on the PTR yet. |
| 04:45.04 | Corgan | I wonder how much new slots are going to cost |
| 04:45.46 | Corgan | for guild banks |
| 04:45.59 | fitz__ | no info has been given about cost at all |
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| 04:52.33 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52091 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: |
| 04:52.33 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: Plugins/Bars: |
| 04:52.33 | CIA-12 | - change default non-emphasized bars position so it doesn't block the world state frame |
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| 04:58.01 | Thorgard | Hmmm, anyone know why Prat's putting two timestamps right after each other on 'Your skill in XXX has increased to XXX.' messages? |
| 05:00.16 | sylvanaar | capture some debug output Thorgard |
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| 05:05.01 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52092 10BigWigs/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:05.01 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 05:05.01 | CIA-12 | -Update zhTW translation. |
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| 05:08.24 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52093 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon: Tell us that BigWigs pinged |
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| 05:11.19 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 05:14.04 | Thorgard | sylvanaar, how would I go about doing it? |
| 05:14.15 | Thorgard | nm |
| 05:14.36 | Thorgard | Actually, un-nm. |
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| 05:15.43 | kandarz | can anyone tell me what texture this is? the one on omen, ora2 http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/aeneira.jpg |
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| 05:17.38 | Thorgard | Looks like flat |
| 05:17.59 | Borked|Raider | soulless, awake? |
| 05:18.15 | Thorgard | Or smooth2 |
| 05:19.26 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/wcc-desktop.png |
| 05:20.20 | Thorgard | Arcaia, hot. |
| 05:20.57 | Arcaia | =P |
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| 05:22.28 | Thorgard | sylvanaar, what kind of debug output would you need? |
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| 05:23.30 | sylvanaar | Thorgard prat has debugging on its menu, and debug subsystems SPLIT and OUTPUT would do |
| 05:24.18 | Arcaia | ~Weighted Companion Cube |
| 05:24.19 | purl | [weighted companion cube] your friend, though you shouldn't listen to his advice, HE IS YOUR FRIEND - do not question the truth! |
| 05:24.19 | Thorgard | Hmm, easy way to get it in a copy/pasteable format? |
| 05:24.58 | sylvanaar | Thorgard um copychat |
| 05:25.04 | Thorgard | sylvanaar, yeah, just thought of that. |
| 05:25.09 | Thorgard | It's late. ;P |
| 05:25.54 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52094 10BigWigs/SC/ (Karathress.lua Vashj.lua): |
| 05:25.54 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 05:25.54 | CIA-12 | -Update zhTW translation. |
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| 05:28.24 | Thorgard | Bah, game crashed and when restarted it's all working normal again. Order restored. |
| 05:29.44 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 05:30.28 | Thorgard | Is there an easy way to switch between chat tabs without using the mouse? |
| 05:31.14 | sylvanaar | make a macro |
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| 05:32.15 | fitz__ | /script FCF_Tab_OnClick(<tab number>) |
| 05:32.26 | fitz__ | er |
| 05:32.32 | fitz__ | no, that wouldn't work |
| 05:32.59 | fitz__ | FCF_SelectDockFrame(ChatFrame1) |
| 05:33.02 | fitz__ | that should do it |
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| 05:37.31 | Arcaia | wtb explanation as to why autobar is failing for me =( |
| 05:38.32 | Thorgard | Not enough cake. |
| 05:39.04 | Xinhuan | test |
| 05:39.09 | Xinhuan | s//abc/ |
| 05:39.33 | Ellipsis | ~fail Xinhuan |
| 05:39.34 | purl | Xinhuan: Fail. |
| 05:39.46 | Xinhuan | thought it might try to search for empty strings to replace ;p |
| 05:44.09 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r52095 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 05:44.09 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 05:44.09 | CIA-12 | - ZA update |
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| 05:46.54 | Pkekyo | Thorgard: the cake is a lie.... THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!!! |
| 05:47.20 | Xinhuan | its caek, not cake! |
| 05:47.45 | Pkekyo | mmmmmmmmmh, no |
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| 05:48.57 | Corgan | The cake is a lie. |
| 05:49.07 | Pkekyo | copycat |
| 05:49.24 | neenee | I've seen that statement uttered quite a lot lately. |
| 05:49.26 | fitz__ | cake can't lie, it's too delicious |
| 05:49.36 | Corgan | It's so delicious and moist |
| 05:49.36 | Pkekyo | lol |
| 05:49.45 | Pkekyo | neenee: blame valve |
| 05:49.58 | neenee | Nah, I blame the people who utter it :) |
| 05:50.07 | Pkekyo | fu :D |
| 05:50.17 | neenee | mind your tongue |
| 05:50.19 | Corgan | :D |
| 05:50.29 | Corgan | just starting episode 2 now |
| 05:50.30 | Pkekyo | mmmmmh, no! |
| 05:51.01 | Pkekyo | fucksake, off to school....laters all |
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| 06:13.34 | Arcaia | ~weighted companion cube |
| 06:13.39 | purl | from memory, weighted companion cube is your friend, though you shouldn't listen to his advice, HE IS YOUR FRIEND - do not question the truth! |
| 06:13.39 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r52096 10AutoBar/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 06:13.39 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 06:13.39 | CIA-12 | -Pre Merge of PDI175 translation |
| 06:16.18 | Ellipsis | ~cake |
| 06:16.19 | purl | methinks cake is all gone :(, or a PHP Framework (http://cakephp.org/) |
| 06:16.21 | Ellipsis | noo |
| 06:16.25 | Ellipsis | the cake is a lie! |
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| 06:18.00 | Wobwork | hm |
| 06:18.09 | Wobwork | anyone know if portal/bioshock can play on cedega/wine? |
| 06:18.19 | Ellipsis | that probably depends on your definition of "play" |
| 06:18.39 | Wobwork | s/play/not crash/ |
| 06:20.32 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r52097 10NiHao/ (NiHao.lua NiHao.toc): |
| 06:20.32 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 06:20.32 | CIA-12 | - Add 'sticky' session mode, which saves session data until the user explicitly resets the session. |
| 06:21.59 | vhaarr | Wobwork: Portal is a steam game, right? In which case it should work fine on wine. |
| 06:22.14 | Wobwork | woo |
| 06:22.16 | Wobwork | that is promising |
| 06:22.29 | Wobwork | apparantly there are only some lighting issues |
| 06:31.43 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52098 10SharedMedia/ (11 files in 2 dirs): SharedMedia: add various textures from savantido |
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| 06:36.45 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r52099 10Talented/viewmode.lua: Talented: bugfix |
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| 06:44.46 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r52100 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 06:44.46 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 06:44.46 | CIA-12 | - Oops, rebuild looted item index on session data load for great justice |
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| 06:51.18 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r52101 10AutoBar/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 06:51.18 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 06:51.18 | CIA-12 | -Merge of PDI175 translation |
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| 07:00.54 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: Messages: |
| 07:00.54 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:00.54 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:02.38 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r52102 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
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| 07:13.44 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r52104 10AutoBar/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 07:13.44 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 07:13.44 | CIA-12 | -Merge of PDI175 translation, final I think |
| 07:13.48 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r52105 10/branches/Talented/: Create Talented directory in branches |
| 07:13.48 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 072.3 * r52106 10Talented/: Talented: create 2.3 compatible branch |
| 07:13.48 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 072.3 * r52107 10Talented/Talented/: Talented: Copy current version in branch |
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| 07:22.37 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 072.3 * r52108 10Talented/Talented/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:22.37 | CIA-12 | Talented: (2.3 branch) |
| 07:22.37 | CIA-12 | _ Preliminary support of inspect. |
| 07:22.37 | CIA-12 | _ Talented (without Data) will be able to get sufficient the talent tree by inspecting people of the different classes. |
| 07:22.37 | CIA-12 | _ I still need to hook into blizz's API somewhere... |
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| 07:22.38 | evl | http://image.bayimg.com/pahboaabj.jpg |
| 07:22.38 | evl | that is just so fucking epic :D |
| 07:22.38 | Ellipsis | lulz? |
| 07:22.38 | Arcaia | how much does it vendor for? |
| 07:22.38 | evl | dirt > 40g per stack reagent |
| 07:22.56 | Arcaia | 40g per stack - your server ripped you off |
| 07:23.08 | Arcaia | I spent 7g and I havent ran out of blinding powder since level 30. |
| 07:23.14 | Bruners | should i go fire or shadow tailor on my warlock? |
| 07:26.42 | Arcaia | spec? |
| 07:26.42 | Bruners | thinking of going destruction really |
| 07:26.42 | Ellipsis | shadow either way |
| 07:26.42 | Ellipsis | unless you're pvping |
| 07:26.42 | Ellipsis | shadow dest > fire dest for raiding |
| 07:26.42 | Bruners | will be pvp only |
| 07:26.42 | Ellipsis | eh, then probably fire |
| 07:26.42 | Arcaia | yea |
| 07:26.42 | Arcaia | searing pain is beastly |
| 07:26.42 | Arcaia | your call ;P |
| 07:26.42 | Bruners | is there any other easy obtainable fire dmg gear out there? |
| 07:26.42 | Ellipsis | greenz go! |
| 07:26.42 | Arcaia | some kara crap >.> |
| 07:26.42 | Arcaia | nothing too spectacular. |
| 07:26.42 | Arcaia | too/to? |
| 07:26.42 | Ellipsis | too |
| 07:26.42 | Arcaia | irrelevant. |
| 07:26.42 | Bruners | that trashdrop belt in the eye looks sexy :P |
| 07:26.43 | Grum | the recipe/vortex one? |
| 07:30.53 | Bruners | Fire-Cord of the Magus |
| 07:30.53 | Arcaia | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/heartless.jpg I want. |
| 07:30.53 | Keirathi | what is that tooltip mod that converts ratings into % in that SS |
| 07:30.53 | Xinhuan | without looking at the SS |
| 07:30.53 | Xinhuan | i'm guessing its RatingBuster |
| 07:30.55 | Xinhuan | you can also try WoWEquip (which compares sets/profiles) |
| 07:30.57 | Gngsk | dingalingalingalingaaaliiiing |
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| 07:37.27 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=4P7sdo_Aj0o&mode=related&search= |
| 07:38.21 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52109 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 07:38.21 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 07:38.21 | CIA-12 | -Add new zhCN spells for BS-2.2 |
| 07:40.27 | omega | is there any site that offers an XML export of all wow items? |
| 07:40.56 | Arcaia | allakhazam |
| 07:41.03 | Arcaia | with ajax >.> |
| 07:41.18 | orionshock | ? |
| 07:41.36 | Comxx | ~seen nogudnik |
| 07:41.38 | purl | nogudnik <n=nogudnik@mail.exiter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 4h 49m 21s ago, saying: '*sweet*, now I just have to get my project added. '. |
| 07:41.45 | orionshock | link dead? |
| 07:42.42 | Arcaia | http://wow.allakhazam.com/ |
| 07:43.32 | CIA-12 | 03grum * r52110 10Cartographer_Routes/ (Core.lua TSP.lua): |
| 07:43.32 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 07:43.32 | CIA-12 | - Fixed some localization issues (nodenames, zonenames, zoneW nil) |
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| 07:43.50 | omega | Arcaia: how? |
| 07:43.57 | omega | by doing 100 000 searcges? |
| 07:44.00 | omega | searches |
| 07:44.09 | orionshock | urg |
| 07:45.22 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52111 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 07:45.22 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0: |
| 07:45.22 | CIA-12 | Add |
| 07:45.22 | CIA-12 | - Conflagration |
| 07:45.22 | CIA-12 | - Divine Wrath |
| 07:45.23 | CIA-12 | - Doomfire |
| 07:45.25 | CIA-12 | - Fatal Attraction |
| 07:47.34 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 07jerry * r52112 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid (branch): Separate FrameLock and ClickThrough functionalities into two options. |
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| 07:53.40 | TrixIsOwned | :< is there a wowace item lookup addon? |
| 07:55.12 | orionshock | many |
| 07:57.26 | TrixIsOwned | which would be the... best would you say? |
| 07:58.01 | orionshock | don't know.. |
| 07:58.05 | cryogen | morning |
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| 08:07.26 | pakoz | trying to find this arena mod i saw before, it gives you a box - when you highlight over your enemies it puts them in the box. Classes are are shown by color, health bars etc |
| 08:08.10 | Srosh | Proximo. |
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| 08:14.14 | pakoz | not the one i'm after |
| 08:14.17 | pakoz | but thx |
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| 08:15.25 | Chompers | Gladiator |
| 08:19.39 | pakoz | i'll check it out, thx |
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| 08:23.28 | Srosh | Gladiator is kinda deprecated. |
| 08:26.09 | Corgan | hrmm |
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| 08:33.08 | Lothaer | G'Day |
| 08:35.37 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r52113 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (5 files): |
| 08:35.37 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:35.37 | CIA-12 | - Bug fix |
| 08:35.53 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r52114 10PitBull_AltAura/ (core.lua layout.lua options.lua update.lua): |
| 08:35.53 | CIA-12 | PitBull_AltAura: |
| 08:35.54 | CIA-12 | _ Allow buff frame and debuff frame to have different width in split mode. |
| 08:35.54 | CIA-12 | _ Allow to specify left and top offset for buff and debuff frames. |
| 08:37.44 | Bruners | what is the best pet for hunter raid dps? |
| 08:39.09 | Grum | BoM |
| 08:39.15 | Grum | euuh |
| 08:39.16 | Grum | lol |
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| 08:39.17 | Grum | cat :D |
| 08:39.24 | Lothaer | hunter dps??? |
| 08:39.28 | Lothaer | when? |
| 08:39.37 | Grum | hunters have a seriously easy time dpsing |
| 08:39.40 | Grum | especially bms |
| 08:39.52 | Lothaer | dps hard, pull aggro feign death |
| 08:39.56 | Lothaer | rinse |
| 08:39.57 | Lothaer | wash |
| 08:39.58 | Lothaer | repeat |
| 08:40.52 | Lothaer | Lunar Sphere is looking very very nice atm |
| 08:40.59 | Lothaer | some peeps here should try it out |
| 08:41.05 | Grum | what is it? |
| 08:41.12 | Lothaer | uve heard of Sphere right? |
| 08:41.25 | *** part/#wowace Necrathex (n=bleptop@82-171-238-179.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 08:42.02 | Lothaer | its like Necrosis/Serenity etc but for all classes |
| 08:42.08 | Lothaer | has a shit load of options |
| 08:42.20 | Lothaer | is very stable very customisable |
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| 08:42.35 | Lothaer | still in beta but very close to a public release |
| 08:42.43 | Xinhuan | WOW GAY |
| 08:42.49 | Lothaer | WTF!!!!!! |
| 08:42.56 | Xinhuan | you can no longer farm to exalted with Gelkis Clan in 2.2 i think |
| 08:43.05 | Xinhuan | the mobs stop giving rep at 11999/12000 |
| 08:43.05 | Lothaer | lol |
| 08:43.08 | Xinhuan | i can't go past that |
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| 08:43.17 | Lothaer | u have to do heroic |
| 08:43.53 | Grum | heroic outdoors? |
| 08:44.05 | Grum | now that would be a fun toggle for repetative misbehaving people :D |
| 08:44.06 | Lothaer | i dont even know where that clan is lol |
| 08:44.08 | Xinhuan | gay patches |
| 08:44.09 | Nom- | wtf.. you actually bothered to grind to exalted with Gelkis ? |
| 08:44.24 | Nom- | You must be REALLY bored |
| 08:44.36 | Lothaer | fucking hate blizzard, the bloddy 1 sided fool |
| 08:44.37 | Lothaer | s |
| 08:44.43 | Bruners | can you get anything from those clans? |
| 08:44.49 | Nom- | no |
| 08:44.53 | Lothaer | Blizzard so love to give the horde cool shit atm |
| 08:45.02 | Nom- | There's 2 quests at friendly... there's no reason to grind it after that |
| 08:45.14 | Grum | oh .. warning for anyone downloading a language pack ... you have to repatch your wow to v2.2.3 again .. which is ~700mb patches ... |
| 08:45.19 | Lothaer | maybe in a next patch |
| 08:45.29 | Grum | they kinda fail to mention that when you download the language pack .. which is 266mb itself |
| 08:45.34 | Lothaer | lol |
| 08:45.36 | Nom- | Grum: A language pack? :/ |
| 08:45.41 | Grum | yes |
| 08:45.46 | Lothaer | so u can use liek chinese on US server |
| 08:46.00 | Bibi` | there isn't any chinese language pack afaik |
| 08:46.00 | Grum | some nub libraries seem to handle localization differently than normally |
| 08:46.06 | Grum | and the only way to test it .. is to get a language pack |
| 08:46.10 | Grum | so i got deDE :'( |
| 08:46.33 | Grum | so i can actually test my addon before i release it .. or actually .. after in this case because someone had problems with it and i had no way to test it |
| 08:46.33 | Lothaer | Horde are getting 3 Alliance mounts |
| 08:46.40 | Lothaer | well access to atleast |
| 08:46.44 | Grum | got a german wow now .. hurray *puke* |
| 08:46.54 | Megalon | hooray 4 grum |
| 08:46.57 | Lothaer | is hitler in it? |
| 08:47.00 | Bruners | Lothaer: and why do horde get 3 alliance mounts? |
| 08:47.09 | Megalon | hf with that nice translated itemnames and so on :P |
| 08:47.14 | Lothaer | well they get the Ram via Brewfest |
| 08:47.17 | Grum | Lothaer: he's stealthing behind you every time you start to drink |
| 08:47.23 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 08:47.29 | Grum | or eat .. so you can nto get foodbuffs because you will be ganked before you sit 10s |
| 08:47.34 | Bruners | Lothaer: cant alliance also get that? |
| 08:47.36 | Lothaer | Hippogryph via Cenarion Espedition Rep |
| 08:47.51 | Grum | the only way is getting a portal to a spot that is not on the floor (or flying with your mount) because the fellow is to cheapass to buy a flying mount |
| 08:47.52 | Lothaer | yes too but Rams a traditionally a Alliance mount |
| 08:48.00 | cladhaire | Hippogryph isn't an alliance mount |
| 08:48.05 | Lothaer | yes it is |
| 08:48.10 | Lothaer | its the other taxi mount |
| 08:48.14 | cladhaire | that's not a mount |
| 08:48.19 | cladhaire | its a taxi :P |
| 08:48.22 | Lothaer | u know what i mean |
| 08:48.32 | Lothaer | but its still available to the horde in 2,3 |
| 08:48.42 | cladhaire | its not available to the alliance until 2.3 as well, so *shrug |
| 08:48.45 | Lothaer | and the Gyrocopter is in 2.3 |
| 08:48.58 | Lothaer | available to Engineers |
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| 08:49.10 | Lothaer | im gonna ROFL hard when i see a Tauren Engineer in it LOLOLOLOL |
| 08:49.21 | cryogen | ooh |
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| 08:49.32 | cryogen | i think i just decided my new profession |
| 08:49.45 | nevcairiel | engineering just for that ugly mount? |
| 08:49.54 | Lothaer | traditionaly by Lore the Hippogryph, Ram and Gyrocopter were Alliance only |
| 08:49.58 | Lothaer | yeah |
| 08:50.02 | Lothaer | u need Epic Skill |
| 08:50.11 | OrionShock | mech o strider |
| 08:50.12 | Lothaer | a lot of mats and 375 Engineering |
| 08:50.27 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r52115 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 08:50.27 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 08:50.27 | CIA-12 | - Spell: updated zhTW localization |
| 08:50.31 | Lothaer | what about it Orion? |
| 08:50.31 | Bruners | i want the undead bat mount |
| 08:50.35 | Lothaer | same |
| 08:50.45 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r52116 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: updated zhTW localization |
| 08:50.57 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r52117 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: updated zhTW localization |
| 08:51.03 | Lothaer | imho Halloween should have a questline like brewfest so Alliance can get a Undead Horse |
| 08:51.09 | OrionShock | the alliance mounts |
| 08:51.13 | Lothaer | and rep with some1 to get the Bat |
| 08:51.36 | Lothaer | i know, what about it though |
| 08:52.04 | OrionShock | the alliance mounts truditionaly are the tiger, horse, ram, mechanostrider, & now the elephant |
| 08:52.14 | Lothaer | i wasnt referring to WoW |
| 08:52.23 | Lothaer | was refering to the old games |
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| 08:52.37 | Lothaer | Gnomeish Gyrocopter |
| 08:52.53 | Lothaer | Hippogryph were used by the Night Elves |
| 08:53.03 | Megalon | Lothaer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSmjhsuh08M |
| 08:53.08 | Lothaer | and the Ram well.... that was just given to the Dwarfs lol |
| 08:53.21 | cladhaire | and in previous games, men were the only NE Druids, and women were the only NE warriors. |
| 08:53.26 | cladhaire | some of it has changed |
| 08:53.28 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 08:53.37 | cladhaire | no use crying over spilt milk |
| 08:53.54 | cladhaire | BUT MILK IS SPENSIVE!!! |
| 08:54.02 | Lothaer | ROFL megalon |
| 08:54.37 | Lothaer | have u guys seen the hippogryph mount yet? |
| 08:55.00 | nevcairiel | i could prolly buy it on the ptr |
| 08:55.02 | nevcairiel | but i am lazy |
| 08:55.05 | Lothaer | 2000g |
| 08:55.07 | Recluse | they *did* go with griff mount for ce? |
| 08:55.12 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r52118 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 08:55.12 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 08:55.12 | CIA-12 | - Fix manual reset issue. |
| 08:55.33 | Bruners | http://www.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/59817.jpg there |
| 08:55.44 | Lothaer | for the hippogryph u need to be Exalted with CE, have ur Epic Flying skill and a spare 2000g |
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| 08:59.20 | Silviu- | It is 310% speed ? |
| 08:59.26 | Silviu- | or why is it 2k gold anyway |
| 08:59.53 | Xinhuan | its 2k gold because it looks cool |
| 08:59.57 | Silviu- | lol |
| 09:00.03 | Silviu- | not for me :) |
| 09:00.12 | ramoz | cause it _doesnt_ look cool <- fixed |
| 09:00.50 | Bruners | there should be added a paladin/warlock mount |
| 09:01.38 | OrionShock | Bruners: no |
| 09:01.50 | Lothaer | hell no |
| 09:02.00 | Bruners | why not? :P |
| 09:02.00 | OrionShock | if they do that then they got to give druids 300ridding trainable and epic form free |
| 09:02.16 | ramoz | free? |
| 09:02.23 | OrionShock | unless they do it the same way, where they have to buy it first then do the quest to get the mount |
| 09:02.25 | ramoz | it should be like the epic mountquest |
| 09:02.47 | Bruners | yep |
| 09:02.49 | OrionShock | ramoz: free / trainable.... small diff but you get what i mean |
| 09:03.04 | ramoz | who said free? |
| 09:03.07 | Bruners | doing a quest that requires alot of expensive mats isnt free |
| 09:03.31 | OrionShock | the 250 was sorta free |
| 09:03.36 | OrionShock | 7g for me |
| 09:03.45 | ramoz | 250? |
| 09:04.16 | nevcairiel | druid? :p |
| 09:04.19 | OrionShock | trying to play and IRC at the same time.. not working too well for me |
| 09:04.28 | ramoz | oh right |
| 09:05.17 | OrionShock | -the only way >I< could tollerate blizzard giving locks / pallys a quest flying mount is if they did it the same way as druid's epic flight quest. where you had to purchace the skill before doing the quest at all. |
| 09:05.30 | Nom- | The epic class mounts always required a painful quest line (and max riding skill) |
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| 09:05.41 | ramoz | i agree, but they could also require some mats worth 5k G |
| 09:06.03 | OrionShock | no,equal 5k gold in quest mats no |
| 09:06.15 | Lothaer | should be a mount http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/mount.jpg |
| 09:06.16 | OrionShock | buy the skill, then do the quest |
| 09:06.24 | Nom- | Paladins/Warlocks get a free level 40 mount, but then they have to pay 1000g in mats at level 60 for the epic mount |
| 09:06.25 | OrionShock | screw em just as bad as druids are |
| 09:06.27 | ramoz | why not? thats what they did with the epic normal mount |
| 09:06.29 | Bruners | OrionShock: i guess you are a druid? |
| 09:06.34 | OrionShock | yes |
| 09:06.35 | Lothaer | the hippogryph mount http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/hippogryph106.jpg |
| 09:06.46 | Bibi` | Lothaer : anti aliasing. |
| 09:06.50 | Bibi` | please. :( |
| 09:07.08 | Nom- | FSAA = win |
| 09:07.19 | OrionShock | Lothaer: ? nekked belf? |
| 09:07.25 | Lothaer | yup yup |
| 09:07.25 | Bibi` | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/cenarionmount.jpg |
| 09:07.26 | Bibi` | \o/ |
| 09:07.29 | Nom- | ONE DAY i'll have enough disposable income to buy a top of the range DX10 card |
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| 09:07.58 | Bibi` | dx10 cards are soooo 2006 |
| 09:08.03 | Bibi` | you need dx10.1 cards now |
| 09:08.05 | Nom- | I used to keep up to date on video cards... i'd be buying a new one every couple of months |
| 09:08.11 | Bibi` | otherwise it's NOT COMPATIBLE |
| 09:08.14 | Bibi` | SURRY |
| 09:08.19 | Nom- | Then I bought a $30k car |
| 09:08.25 | Bibi` | then you woke up ? |
| 09:09.01 | neenee | Lothaer, that undead chicken thing is horrible :| |
| 09:09.02 | Grum | lol |
| 09:09.10 | Grum | someone really playing with nekid models in wow? O.o |
| 09:09.17 | neenee | Probably. |
| 09:09.18 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.19 | Nom- | |
| 09:09.21 | Nom- | $909.00 |
| 09:09.22 | neenee | spam |
| 09:09.24 | Nom- | One of those would be nice |
| 09:09.26 | Grum | imba empty lines! |
| 09:09.32 | Lothaer | undead chicken thing? |
| 09:09.36 | neenee | One of those would unnecessary |
| 09:10.03 | neenee | Yes, the one you linked |
| 09:10.11 | Nom- | pfft |
| 09:10.12 | neenee | http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/mount.jpg |
| 09:10.14 | neenee | That one |
| 09:10.28 | Lothaer | ahh lol yeah |
| 09:10.29 | Nom- | I like playing games in max quality and resolution |
| 09:10.39 | Nom- | can't do that... not even WoW any more... it slows down too much with all the addons |
| 09:11.11 | Lothaer | thats not done in game fyi |
| 09:11.11 | neenee | Research what you need instead of invensting in something with more power than you will use. |
| 09:11.11 | Lothaer | wowmodelviewer |
| 09:11.11 | neenee | There were nude patches long ago |
| 09:11.11 | Lothaer | still are |
| 09:11.11 | Nom- | neenee: I plan on playing Crysis and other DX10 games in max quality |
| 09:11.11 | neenee | I would not be surprised if they still exist |
| 09:11.12 | Lothaer | im using one |
| 09:11.23 | Nom- | Therefore I need power to get good performance >:) |
| 09:11.31 | neenee | Nom-, Still, don't blindly buy the most expensive card you can find. That's just wasting money. |
| 09:11.49 | Lothaer | in 1years time it will be out dated and something better will be out |
| 09:11.52 | evl | spectral tiger is only 600$ on ebay :o |
| 09:11.56 | neenee | But, I'm sure shops like you :) |
| 09:12.43 | Nom- | lol |
| 09:12.46 | Nom- | the plan is to buy 1 of them |
| 09:12.57 | Nom- | then in 6 months when it starts slowing down in the newest games, buy another and put them in SLI |
| 09:13.20 | Nom- | That's why I spent an extra $100 getting an SLI capable board |
| 09:13.34 | Lothaer | check this out http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/taurenmount.jpg |
| 09:13.39 | Lothaer | and and Nom |
| 09:13.48 | neenee | That's an ugly shot |
| 09:14.03 | neenee | And I agree, feel free to use anti-aliasing |
| 09:14.18 | neenee | Front views aren't very good to show how something look |
| 09:14.19 | neenee | *s |
| 09:14.35 | neenee | And your jpeg compression is too high. |
| 09:14.51 | Ellipsis | that's what she said |
| 09:15.06 | neenee | who said when? |
| 09:15.06 | Lothaer | im running a AMD Athlon 2100KP, KT4 Ultra MoBo, GForceFX 5500 |
| 09:15.13 | Lothaer | 768 MB or RAM |
| 09:15.28 | Lothaer | and also that pic looks fine to me u 2 are just ver y fucking picky |
| 09:15.31 | neenee | Which doesn't mean you can't turn on anti-aliasing or save jpegs with a higher quality |
| 09:15.45 | neenee | I am glad you are not with the Blizzard art department. |
| 09:15.49 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 09:16.04 | Nom- | heh |
| 09:16.08 | Ellipsis | I don't understand how people can play without antialiasing, let alone take screenshots like that |
| 09:16.32 | Grum | Ellipsis: i dont understand why people waste precious frames turning on FSAA |
| 09:16.33 | Lothaer | god u people are acting like 2 year olds |
| 09:16.46 | Lothaer | its not graphics that counts its game play |
| 09:16.53 | Lothaer | yes graphics to play a part |
| 09:16.57 | Lothaer | but still |
| 09:17.15 | Ellipsis | Grum: because it keeps them from having an irresistable urge to gouge their eyes out |
| 09:17.20 | neenee | I agree gameplay is important, but the graphics are a very big part of it with WoW. |
| 09:17.31 | Nom- | Athlon 64 X2 3800+, 2GB RAM, GeForce 7600 GT |
| 09:17.40 | siIentium | Gnarfoz: I'm german but play with the english ELP on an english server, I havent played with the german client or on a german server for over a year |
| 09:17.53 | nevcairiel | i run on full FSAA. just because i can. |
| 09:17.58 | Grum | Nom-: ~35-120 fps depending on location on 1600x1200 |
| 09:18.04 | Ellipsis | tbh, playing WoW with no antialiasing is like trying to read Lothaer's text. sure, I can still do it, but it's a lot more painful than doing it the nice way. |
| 09:18.29 | Grum | but <3 pixels! |
| 09:18.33 | Lothaer | her emy wow video settings kk |
| 09:18.55 | Lothaer | hit default, change to 1024 x 768 click "use UI Scale" drag to .64 DONE |
| 09:18.56 | Nom- | On my system, I never drop below about 45fps in WoW |
| 09:19.06 | Nom- | That's running on 1680x1050, but some quality settings turned down |
| 09:19.14 | Grum | Nom-: not even @ Leotheras? ;D |
| 09:19.18 | Grum | that room is bloody horrible |
| 09:19.23 | Ellipsis | I play with every setting maxed at 1440x900 |
| 09:19.24 | Nom- | Leo is actually very smooth |
| 09:19.25 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r52119 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: Rework Tree format |
| 09:19.38 | Ellipsis | my FPS is just barely playable - but that's enough for me |
| 09:19.39 | Grum | Nom-: 60+ dps? |
| 09:19.44 | Nom- | It slows down a lot flying through things like the glowy spiral over shattrath |
| 09:19.45 | Grum | erm fps ;D |
| 09:20.00 | Nom- | i have vsync on |
| 09:20.10 | Silviu- | turn it off |
| 09:20.11 | Silviu- | :) |
| 09:20.13 | Nom- | but yeah, it hits 55+fps most of the time |
| 09:20.23 | Grum | prolly my addons then hehe |
| 09:20.32 | neenee | 10mb used here by addons :) |
| 09:20.41 | Lothaer | i bet u guys have a big bitch fit (Angry German Kid) when ur ping goes higher than 100 |
| 09:20.44 | neenee | It was 7 before Cartographer, but I like it to help me mining. |
| 09:20.53 | neenee | Nah |
| 09:20.55 | Grum | neenee: got Cartographer_Routes? ;D |
| 09:20.58 | neenee | Latency doesn't worry me too much |
| 09:21.01 | Nom- | 100 ping? I'd kill to go UNDER 100 ping once in a while |
| 09:21.02 | neenee | Grum, no |
| 09:21.05 | Grum | OMG |
| 09:21.06 | Grum | get it NOW |
| 09:21.10 | Nom- | Usually on 400-500 |
| 09:21.13 | Lothaer | i play with a constant latency of arounf 450 |
| 09:21.14 | Ellipsis | my ping is like, 100-120 most of the time |
| 09:21.15 | Nom- | I complain when it hits 800-1000 |
| 09:21.19 | Grum | lol |
| 09:21.23 | neenee | same here. |
| 09:21.23 | Grum | i complain @ >400 |
| 09:21.24 | Ellipsis | I used to play with 1k+ |
| 09:21.39 | neenee | When I can't do anything for seconds, I start to wonder what's up. |
| 09:21.50 | Lothaer | im talking 450 in Nagrand were there is nothing around |
| 09:21.53 | Nom- | Yeah, well playing from Perth, Australia... 400 is like fast |
| 09:22.04 | neenee | Hm. My latency is around 25 |
| 09:22.04 | Lothaer | South Australia here |
| 09:22.13 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.17 | Nom- | FPS gaming locally is more fun... i get 15 ms in TF2 |
| 09:22.18 | neenee | :| |
| 09:22.18 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.48 | Nom- | My favorite game is portal atm tho |
| 09:22.51 | Nom- | The cake is a lie. |
| 09:22.59 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r52120 10Ace3/tests/AceGUITest/test.lua: Ace3 - AceGUITest: Update for new Tree format, more tests |
| 09:23.23 | neenee | Portal isn't a long game though |
| 09:23.41 | neenee | No replayabiliy I htink |
| 09:23.42 | neenee | *think |
| 09:23.44 | Nom- | It's been a really long time since I've seen an FPS which takes a while to comoplete |
| 09:23.47 | Nom- | *complete |
| 09:23.56 | Nom- | neenee: I do speed runs now on the challenge maps |
| 09:24.05 | neenee | er okay |
| 09:24.09 | neenee | To each their own :) |
| 09:24.24 | Nom- | You should do all the challenge maps... there's some where the map is completely different |
| 09:24.35 | neenee | I didn't finish the game yet |
| 09:24.43 | neenee | I'll do that sometime this week I think. |
| 09:24.46 | Nom- | ah, i finished it in one sitting :P |
| 09:25.03 | neenee | I wanted to save some fun for later |
| 09:26.17 | Nom- | hehe... it's kinda fun at the end |
| 09:26.42 | Nom- | I love the maps where you have to chain jump into portals |
| 09:26.48 | Nom- | to get enough speed to make a big jump |
| 09:26.58 | Ellipsis | I'm stuck on the last boss in Portal tbh :( |
| 09:27.09 | Ellipsis | I can't seem to finish in time -.- |
| 09:27.56 | Nom- | ah you just have to work out how to line up the missiles better :) |
| 09:28.00 | Nom- | Once you do that, it's ezmode |
| 09:28.07 | Ellipsis | I don't have trouble with that |
| 09:28.17 | Ellipsis | mostly it's grabbing the heads |
| 09:28.35 | Nom- | they drop in the same spots |
| 09:28.39 | Ellipsis | I know |
| 09:28.44 | Ellipsis | but I have trouble getting to them =[ |
| 09:29.04 | Nom- | the hardest one is the last |
| 09:29.09 | Nom- | where its suspended in mid air |
| 09:29.14 | Ellipsis | I know |
| 09:29.36 | Ellipsis | I *once* got to that part |
| 09:29.41 | Ellipsis | but couldn't seem to grab it |
| 09:29.49 | Nom- | yah, its hard to aim |
| 09:29.51 | Ellipsis | no matter how many times I tried that jump :( |
| 09:29.57 | Nom- | i suggest making a portal on the ground to line itup |
| 09:30.20 | Nom- | then once you have the horizontal position right, just adjust the vertical |
| 09:30.26 | Corgan | I wuv portal :D |
| 09:30.43 | Nom- | you don't have to grab it, you just collide with it to knock it out of the air |
| 09:30.51 | Ellipsis | gonna give the boss another shot now actually |
| 09:30.56 | Ellipsis | so bbs ^-^ |
| 09:31.02 | Nom- | g'luck |
| 09:31.18 | Silviu- | ~seen nimbal |
| 09:31.20 | purl | nimbal <n=chatzill@p5488CEE5.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 22h 5m 4s ago, saying: 'I'm brooding over a complementary addon for Buffalo2 in which the user can click custom buff containers together. And I'm wondering if it makes sense to allow the user to make a container that contains buffs from several unitids'. |
| 09:37.57 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r641 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/51_52_UnGoro_Crater.lua: TourGuide - Ally Un'goro cleanup |
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| 09:45.07 | Kerafyrm | hey ck, does CIA-12 report anything thats updated ? ie: i see on files.wowace.com that Omen was updated <1 min ago, but don't see anything in here |
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| 09:45.49 | Grum | Kerafyrm: it does |
| 09:45.57 | Codayus | Probably a library update. |
| 09:46.03 | nevcairiel | CIA-12 lags sometimes |
| 09:46.12 | Codayus | I see Babble got a translation update about an hour ago... |
| 09:46.21 | Grum | yup |
| 09:46.22 | Codayus | ....mmm, naa, thatwould explain a ~5m time stamp. |
| 09:46.34 | Kerafyrm | gotcha |
| 09:46.35 | Grum | mostly externals updated |
| 09:46.48 | Kerafyrm | Grum |
| 09:47.04 | Kerafyrm | btw, thanks to your Routes mod.. i found 3 or 4 new nodes using your route |
| 09:47.15 | Grum | 'my route' ? |
| 09:47.27 | ramoz | Grum: i will add you to my nightprayers! |
| 09:47.29 | Kerafyrm | yeah, any route created(calculated) is technicaly yours :P |
| 09:47.32 | Ellipsis | I wins da portalz! |
| 09:47.37 | Grum | actually its not hehee |
| 09:47.38 | Grum | but ok ;D |
| 09:47.42 | Grum | more Xinhuans than mine .. ^^ |
| 09:47.54 | Kerafyrm | 50/50 as far as i'm concerned |
| 09:47.58 | Kerafyrm | only complaint |
| 09:48.18 | Xinhuan | actually i wrote all the code behind the route generation, Grum did all the UI frontend for line drawing |
| 09:48.21 | Kerafyrm | the drawn lines cover the yellow node dots if a node is actually up on the minimap |
| 09:48.54 | Ellipsis | it's ok ramoz |
| 09:48.56 | Ellipsis | the cake is a lie |
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| 09:49.13 | Grum | Kerafyrm: blizzard to blame for that |
| 09:49.17 | Kerafyrm | agreed |
| 09:49.25 | Kerafyrm | Either way, props to Grum and Xinhuan |
| 09:49.36 | ramoz | Kerafyrm: you can give them some cake too |
| 09:49.42 | Xinhuan | cake > pie |
| 09:49.48 | Xinhuan | vote pls |
| 09:49.48 | ramoz | ok |
| 09:49.49 | Ellipsis | pie > cake |
| 09:49.52 | Kerafyrm | i was thinking more like a paypal donation |
| 09:49.52 | Kerafyrm | but |
| 09:49.55 | Kerafyrm | cake is good |
| 09:49.56 | pkekyowrk | anyone know how I can find the IP of my tower (at home) without physically being there? |
| 09:50.01 | Grum | ey .. i like that .. |
| 09:50.04 | Grum | paypal ftw |
| 09:50.07 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo: er...do you have remote access to it? |
| 09:50.14 | Xinhuan | i added xinhuan@gmail.com to my paypal account 3 days ago ;p |
| 09:50.28 | Grum | haha |
| 09:50.29 | evl | SPAM |
| 09:50.39 | Grum | Xinhuan: if you get anything .. share ^^ |
| 09:50.42 | Xinhuan | ^^ |
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| 09:50.55 | Ellipsis | actually, if Pkekyo is your home box, it's 62.16.163.25 |
| 09:50.59 | Kerafyrm | can't spare much this month.. hafta fix my truck of a light pole assasult(wind blew it over) |
| 09:51.42 | Grum | hehe |
| 09:51.49 | Kerafyrm | but, come payday i'll see what i can manage.. cuz as far as i'm concerned the mod rocks farming is half my game life :P |
| 09:52.41 | Grum | hehehe |
| 09:52.57 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r52121 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua Position/Position.lua Text/Text.lua): CowTip: updated zhTW localization |
| 09:55.22 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r52122 10DelMapa/DelMapa.toc: DelMapa: bump toc to 20200 |
| 09:55.27 | pkekyowrk | Ellipsis: how'd you figure? |
| 09:56.50 | ramoz | /whois Pkekyo |
| 09:57.11 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 09:57.17 | ramoz | Canal Digital? :O |
| 09:57.27 | pkekyowrk | ramoz: aye, sadly |
| 09:57.29 | Kerafyrm | omen still errors.. :( |
| 09:57.48 | pkekyowrk | for some reason, mstsc stopped working...methinks my IP has changed |
| 09:58.20 | ramoz | that bad? mine works well - even got 1mb extra :D |
| 09:58.46 | pkekyowrk | ramoz: I want_more_speeeeeeeeed |
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| 09:59.37 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52123 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-zhTW.lua: |
| 09:59.37 | CIA-12 | Quartz: |
| 09:59.37 | CIA-12 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 09:59.56 | ramoz | 7mb is enough for me |
| 10:00.04 | ramoz | it's not like i leech porn 24/7 anymore |
| 10:00.09 | pkekyowrk | ramoz: I'm dicking about at approx 1.5 |
| 10:00.23 | pkekyowrk | ramoz: you don't? ran out of harddrive space? :p |
| 10:00.33 | CIA-12 | 03silviu * r52124 10Buffalo2/ (Buffalo2.toc embeds.xml): Buffalo2: Added embeds.xml |
| 10:00.33 | ramoz | hm, nope |
| 10:00.39 | ramoz | have about 1.5TB free |
| 10:00.58 | pkekyowrk | meh, I don't even have 1tb total |
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| 10:03.57 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52125 10Quartz/Quartz.toc: |
| 10:03.57 | CIA-12 | Quartz: |
| 10:03.57 | CIA-12 | - Set quartz.toc to UTF-8 |
| 10:03.57 | CIA-12 | - Added note for zhTW |
| 10:03.57 | CIA-12 | - Added note for zhCN |
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| 10:06.20 | neenee | Hm. I think Routes was designed for Outland only? |
| 10:06.27 | neenee | As the routes in Felwood are pretty crazy |
| 10:06.47 | Ellipsis | yeah, there's no terrain obstacles taken into account |
| 10:06.51 | OrionShock | with outlands in mind |
| 10:06.57 | Xinhuan | routes isn't meant to be used on azeroth ;p |
| 10:06.57 | Ellipsis | so you really have to be able to fly to make use of them effectively |
| 10:07.00 | Grum | figure out a smart way to do it and we might add it :) |
| 10:07.03 | neenee | ok |
| 10:07.07 | neenee | removing it then |
| 10:07.18 | Xinhuan | well it CAN be used in certain azeroth zones |
| 10:07.21 | Xinhuan | such as Barrens |
| 10:07.22 | Grum | yup |
| 10:07.23 | Xinhuan | and tanaris |
| 10:07.24 | Grum | the barrens for example |
| 10:07.38 | Grum | anything without mountains basically ;D |
| 10:07.41 | Xinhuan | but try something like Searing Gorge, you'll kill yourself |
| 10:08.06 | Grum | also because there is no meta information about nodes |
| 10:08.14 | Grum | you dont know if its inside a cave for example |
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| 10:08.22 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r52126 10Elephant/Locale-zhTW.lua: Elephant: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:08.44 | Grum | Xinhuan: i wonder if it would be possible to add it |
| 10:08.52 | OrionShock | it would Grum |
| 10:08.58 | OrionShock | inside outside check |
| 10:09.06 | OrionShock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.12 | Xinhuan | its not impossible, but would complicate things a lot |
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| 10:09.23 | Xinhuan | OrionShock, thing is the stored herb/mine data doesn't store that |
| 10:09.29 | Grum | the main problem is that you have to figure out where you can go and cant go |
| 10:09.30 | Xinhuan | all it stores is the X,Y coord |
| 10:09.33 | Grum | which is .. kinda .. hard |
| 10:09.49 | OrionShock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.14 | CIA-12 | 03silviu * r52127 10Buffalo2_Dreamlayout/Buffalo2_Dreamlayout.toc: Buffalo2_Dreamlayout: Bump toc to 20200 |
| 10:10.32 | Ellipsis | it's impossible without them rewriting or modifying Cart's current note creation |
| 10:10.35 | Grum | on the other hand if someone would provide a grid with 'here you can go - here you cant go' then it would be more doable |
| 10:10.43 | Grum | Ellipsis: which is relatively easy |
| 10:10.45 | Ellipsis | which would also make old data less useful at the very least |
| 10:10.45 | CIA-12 | 03silviu * r52128 10SimpleChatMods/SimpleChatMods.toc: SimpleChatMods: Bump toc to 20200 |
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| 10:10.54 | Grum | data is encoded in an int |
| 10:10.55 | Ellipsis | but datamining nodes would no longer be enough, iirc |
| 10:11.02 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r52129 10AtlasLoot/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:11.02 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:11.02 | CIA-12 | - Order of ZA bosses changed |
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| 10:11.06 | Grum | just add 1 more digit upfront and .. done |
| 10:11.11 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 072.3 * r52130 10Talented/Talented/viewmode.lua: Talented: use SetFormattedText where possible. |
| 10:11.19 | Grum | or make 'odd' magic numbers in a cave orso |
| 10:11.52 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 072.3 * r52131 10Talented/Talented/Talented.toc: Talented (branch): update toc |
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| 10:12.05 | Xinhuan | making the grid is going to be lol |
| 10:12.21 | Xinhuan | its not impossible, but not feasible either |
| 10:12.44 | Grum | what you could do is make some polygonal lines which you can not cross |
| 10:12.55 | Grum | lol .. drop polygonal .. grin |
| 10:12.56 | Grum | but still |
| 10:12.59 | Grum | it should be doable |
| 10:13.08 | Xinhuan | which makes my (get distance from X to Y) code complicated |
| 10:13.10 | Grum | but immensly hard to gather that data |
| 10:13.21 | Grum | Xinhuan: well yes |
| 10:13.22 | Xinhuan | since instead of (x^2 + y^2) ^0.5 |
| 10:13.28 | Xinhuan | it'll be something hella complicated |
| 10:13.30 | OrionShock | conclusion - doable but would suck alot |
| 10:13.39 | vhaarr | god these Rock color pickers make me want to murder orphans and prostitutes |
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| 10:13.46 | Grum | totally not worth the effort tbh |
| 10:13.53 | Grum | vhaarr: implement different ones? :) |
| 10:13.59 | OrionShock | lol vhaarr |
| 10:14.03 | Grum | and they are quite ok when you get used to em |
| 10:14.40 | vhaarr | Grum: you're just brainwashed, they're not OK |
| 10:15.06 | Grum | why not? you can set up the colors like normal |
| 10:15.21 | Corgan | I don't mind them |
| 10:15.49 | Grum | i agree the hue/color section could be a colorwheel as well |
| 10:16.00 | [Ammo] | a color picker that requires half my screen is not ok |
| 10:16.03 | [Ammo] | basically |
| 10:16.13 | Grum | aah i agree the old colorpicker sucks badly then |
| 10:16.21 | [Ammo] | imagine 10 colors config |
| 10:16.25 | [Ammo] | a popup is alot better |
| 10:16.38 | Grum | yes ... lol .. a popup that has the wrong framestrata |
| 10:16.43 | Grum | SO much better *headwall* |
| 10:16.47 | [Ammo] | nono, Grum |
| 10:16.56 | Grum | yesyes |
| 10:16.57 | [Ammo] | RockConfig has the wrong strata, since it wants to be absolutely on top |
| 10:17.03 | Grum | erm it has to be |
| 10:17.04 | Grum | it's config. |
| 10:17.08 | Corgan | I don't understand the hating on rock |
| 10:17.16 | Grum | it has to be either fullscreen strata or fullstreen dialog |
| 10:17.19 | Grum | *fullscreen |
| 10:17.29 | [Ammo] | anyway, enjoy your color picker :) |
| 10:17.40 | [Ammo] | now let me continue forking that routes addon |
| 10:17.44 | breser | It doesn't actually have to be on the top. |
| 10:17.58 | Grum | [Ammo]: at least i know you are kidding with that |
| 10:18.09 | [Ammo] | do you? |
| 10:18.19 | breser | I always just moved Niagra outof the way... The only reason Rock config needs to be on top is becuase it insists on being clamped to the screen. |
| 10:18.55 | Grum | breser: that doesnt add up at all |
| 10:19.06 | Grum | you can clamp stuff to the screen on *ANY* framestrata |
| 10:19.40 | Xinhuan | you realise rockconfig fades away from Dialog Strata if you don't move your mouse on it right? |
| 10:19.55 | breser | Yes I do but I'd rather just move it. |
| 10:19.56 | Grum | which is also somewhat annoying at times hehee |
| 10:20.14 | Xinhuan | i think it changes its on strata on mousein/out |
| 10:20.17 | Xinhuan | own* |
| 10:20.33 | breser | It makes sense when you figure that it doesn't have to be on top if you're just willing to move it out of your way.... |
| 10:21.21 | breser | And yes I find the whole fade in fade out stuff annoying. |
| 10:21.49 | Grum | [Ammo]: i assume you'll be talking with both of me and Xin before you decide to release anything? |
| 10:24.01 | CIA-12 | 03Firik * r52132 10BunchOfBars/ (24 files in 15 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 10:24.01 | CIA-12 | BunchOfBars: |
| 10:24.01 | CIA-12 | - Fixed lots of bugs |
| 10:24.01 | CIA-12 | - Added VoiceIcon module for the buildin voice chat |
| 10:24.01 | CIA-12 | - HealLines module is disabled by default |
| 10:24.01 | CIA-12 | - Now possible to filter by name or party/class combination |
| 10:24.03 | CIA-12 | - Working with the new modules.xml and embeds.xml |
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| 10:31.06 | [Ammo] | caught up in work. I don't need to release anything atm |
| 10:32.09 | Grum | but seriously |
| 10:34.08 | [Ammo] | TSP = GPL, so all I need to do is code a frontend myself, which isn't that hard |
| 10:35.02 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: what's wrong with the current one? |
| 10:35.16 | [Ammo] | it forces rock on my system |
| 10:35.19 | vhaarr | ah |
| 10:35.47 | vhaarr | just make it work with cartoace as well then, shouldn't be many lines of code |
| 10:35.47 | [Ammo] | or more specifically, the rock config |
| 10:35.56 | [Ammo] | grum doesn't want that |
| 10:36.02 | [Ammo] | 'I'll rip your head off' |
| 10:36.11 | Borked|Raider | i need to find some students that have nothing to do that can fix me some nice textures to create a totaly unique UI :)) |
| 10:36.59 | Borked|Raider | but the thing about custom textures size need to be power of 2 sucks :( |
| 10:37.17 | Borked|Raider | or i suck at creating the textures. |
| 10:37.28 | Xinhuan | now now settle down |
| 10:37.33 | Borked|Raider | ;D |
| 10:37.38 | Xinhuan | i'm sure you 2 can work something out ^^ |
| 10:43.45 | OrionShock | [Ammo] whats with all the rock hate ? |
| 10:44.03 | Corgan | seriously @_@ |
| 10:44.45 | [Ammo] | OrionShock: same old same old, crapola config |
| 10:44.51 | OrionShock | and don't say the talent comm thing; that's a weak argument and rather petty |
| 10:45.10 | OrionShock | ya .. the config is lacking but i'v never seen anything better |
| 10:45.18 | cryogen | OrionShock: you are capitalised today |
| 10:45.27 | OrionShock | i am ... |
| 10:45.37 | orionshock | there that better? |
| 10:45.40 | cryogen | much |
| 10:45.54 | nevcairiel | for me its kinda a personal choice to simply not like or use rock. doesnt have to be reasonable :P |
| 10:47.42 | orionshock | personal choice is perfectly alright to not want to use something. it's when the reasons behind it get ridiculously petty is where the line is drawn; least for me. |
| 10:48.21 | cryogen | nono personal choice is fine, constant petty bickering in here is where i draw the line :p |
| 10:48.57 | orionshock | tbh i could care less about the config screens -- i don't have this need to constantly adjust things |
| 10:49.25 | orionshock | and often times i can live with the defaults |
| 10:49.36 | [Ammo] | I hate a straightjacket, you can't get out of it |
| 10:49.43 | [Ammo] | the rock config is just that |
| 10:49.48 | [Ammo] | there is no option to just use the old way |
| 10:50.20 | Ellipsis | why don't you put your coding time into modifying Dewdrop to support Rock config tables then? |
| 10:50.28 | nevcairiel | my reasons for not liking rock: i dont agree with the layout of an all-in-one-do-everything framework-library-thingy |
| 10:50.36 | orionshock | you mean the old assinine method of a billion dew drop menus? |
| 10:50.44 | [Ammo] | orionshock: personal preference |
| 10:50.55 | orionshock | can't argue there |
| 10:50.57 | [Ammo] | orionshock: in fact, commandline ftw, with tab completion |
| 10:51.05 | orionshock | eww |
| 10:51.07 | orionshock | eww |
| 10:51.08 | orionshock | ewwww |
| 10:51.13 | [Ammo] | again, personal preference |
| 10:51.20 | nevcairiel | some addons have so small option tables, commandline or dewdrop is clearly superior, imho at least :P |
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| 10:51.34 | [Ammo] | and fact is, I don't have to use Rock Config by just not using any rock based addons |
| 10:51.59 | Lothaer | hey Ammo who controls the ads on WAU? |
| 10:52.09 | [Ammo] | Kaelten |
| 10:52.10 | nevcairiel | kaelten does |
| 10:52.17 | orionshock | so - when Dewdrop gets converted over to be compatible with rockConfig tables.. will you atleast try? |
| 10:52.24 | Lothaer | because i LOVED the current Ad |
| 10:52.26 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:52.28 | Lothaer | LOVE* |
| 10:52.47 | [Ammo] | orionshock: it depends on the addon |
| 10:52.56 | [Ammo] | orionshock: currently I don't have anything that requires rock that I need |
| 10:53.09 | Lothaer | ~seen kaelten |
| 10:53.10 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 13h 31m 1s ago, saying: 'ah ok'. |
| 10:53.17 | cryogen | delete the *ace addons and reask the question :) |
| 10:53.32 | [Ammo] | why should I delete perfectly functional stable addons? |
| 10:53.32 | nevcairiel | we renamed them to FuBar2 and Cartographer1 :P |
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| 10:53.39 | orionshock | old backups of them don't count :P |
| 10:53.48 | cryogen | see, petty ;p |
| 10:53.52 | [Ammo] | boggle |
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| 10:54.03 | orionshock | cryogen: not petty |
| 10:54.20 | [Ammo] | and I don't see rock config going away or being replaced anytime soon |
| 10:54.24 | [Ammo] | since it's a key selling point of rock |
| 10:54.26 | orionshock | non-conducive to the community but not petty |
| 10:54.39 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:54.41 | nevcairiel | community and rock |
| 10:54.44 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
| 10:54.45 | nevcairiel | i better shutup now :P |
| 10:54.46 | [Ammo] | that's a good one |
| 10:54.56 | Corgan | You guys are getting your panties in a bunch over a config dialog... |
| 10:55.02 | nevcairiel | i have to leave for university anyway, laters |
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| 10:55.45 | Srosh | People die for less, Corgan. That's no argument. |
| 10:55.48 | orionshock | then again -- ckknight; like most of the rest of the people that commit to the SVN, didn't nessisarily follow common naming methods either. |
| 10:56.50 | orionshock | so i call BOO on both of you! :P |
| 10:56.58 | Lothaer | this has to be the laziest person ever |
| 10:57.03 | Lothaer | http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405026 |
| 10:57.05 | Lothaer | read |
| 10:57.40 | orionshock | site fooked |
| 10:58.00 | Lothaer | http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405026 |
| 10:58.00 | Corgan | ^ |
| 10:58.09 | Lothaer | hmmm |
| 10:58.38 | orionshock | everyone clicked at the same time and the server went overloaded |
| 10:59.32 | Lothaer | ok try again |
| 11:00.28 | _rane | is it possible to get rid of the sound effects that play when you try to cast spell without a target for example |
| 11:00.28 | neenee | 'WE TURN OFF GUEST ACCESS DURING BUSY PERIODS' :| |
| 11:00.34 | neenee | Yes |
| 11:00.38 | neenee | In your sound options |
| 11:00.39 | orionshock | fk that i am not loging in |
| 11:00.50 | neenee | 'Error speech' |
| 11:00.53 | Lothaer | Error DSpeach |
| 11:00.54 | _rane | neenee: it's not that |
| 11:00.56 | Lothaer | Speach* |
| 11:00.57 | Lothaer | lol |
| 11:01.10 | neenee | It isn't? |
| 11:01.15 | Xinhuan | whats it about |
| 11:01.15 | _rane | nope |
| 11:01.15 | Lothaer | ??? |
| 11:01.18 | Xinhuan | i didn't click |
| 11:01.22 | neenee | it is for me I think |
| 11:01.24 | Lothaer | please explain _rane |
| 11:01.29 | Corgan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366679415&sid=1 lol |
| 11:01.30 | Corgan | lolool |
| 11:01.42 | Corgan | oh man |
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| 11:01.54 | _rane | Lothaer: difficult to explain, just try to cast a spell without a target and you'll see |
| 11:02.04 | _rane | there's this sound effect that's kinda annoying |
| 11:02.09 | Lothaer | itll say "i dont have a target" |
| 11:02.11 | Lothaer | right |
| 11:02.16 | neenee | I'll try it in a moment then |
| 11:02.22 | _rane | i don't have error speech on |
| 11:02.24 | neenee | Oh wait.. you mean the 'thump' noise? |
| 11:02.28 | _rane | yes |
| 11:02.30 | Lothaer | then it shouldnt |
| 11:02.40 | neenee | It's not an error sound |
| 11:02.44 | Lothaer | with Error Speech turned of that shouldnt happen |
| 11:02.49 | neenee | That's just the sound of an action being started and not completing |
| 11:03.12 | neenee | Like when trying to use remove poison on a target without a poison debuff |
| 11:03.57 | neenee | You can only turn that off by turning off all sound effects, as it's just the sound of a spell/action/etc, but aborted before it can play the whole sound |
| 11:04.50 | Grum | [12:35:56] <[Ammo]> grum doesn't want that <-- as i said, if you really want to do that we'll make it work on both ace and rock *BUT* do not just fork it |
| 11:05.03 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r52133 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 11:05.03 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 11:05.03 | CIA-12 | - Variable reference fixed |
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| 11:05.46 | Lothaer | ~poke purl |
| 11:05.47 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 11:06.08 | Lothaer | ~purl you are silly |
| 11:06.09 | purl | Lothaer: I think you lost me on that one |
| 11:06.23 | Lothaer | ~purl the sky is green |
| 11:06.24 | purl | ...but sky is already something else... |
| 11:06.34 | Lothaer | lol |
| 11:06.42 | Lothaer | ~Insomniax |
| 11:07.03 | Orionshock | ~sky |
| 11:07.03 | purl | hmm... sky is blue because hash likes it that way |
| 11:07.56 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:09.34 | Neebler | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2304-Zero-Punctuation-Halo-3 |
| 11:09.52 | Neebler | hehe, his bioshock review is the best |
| 11:10.55 | Grum | [Ammo]: do you think both pieces of code can be in 1 addon? |
| 11:14.11 | evl | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2304-Zero-Punctuation-Halo-3 |
| 11:14.43 | orionshock | LOL |
| 11:18.49 | CIA-12 | 03Firik * r52134 10BunchOfBars/filelist.wau: BunchOfBars: Added VoiceIcon to filelist.wau |
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| 11:20.50 | Grum | completely brillian :D |
| 11:20.52 | Grum | +t |
| 11:21.04 | kaffeemann | hello someone here who can help me wih grid ? |
| 11:21.16 | Corgan | ~asktoask |
| 11:21.17 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 11:22.14 | kaffeemann | is the original grid with pet support if not how to use the grid with pet support posted in subversion. |
| 11:23.21 | Borked|Raider | ~asktoasktoask |
| 11:23.25 | Borked|Raider | weak |
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| 11:25.20 | kaffeemann | i compared both files and i think grid with pet from subversion is not up to date |
| 11:26.01 | Grum | kaffeemann: where did you find the file? |
| 11:26.26 | kaffeemann | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Grid/jerry/Grid/ |
| 11:27.00 | breser | Umm that looks like a private branch. |
| 11:27.22 | kaffeemann | found it in the forum |
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| 11:28.20 | kaffeemann | i look for a raid frame like grid but i need something for pet support because we have BM hunter in the raid |
| 11:28.24 | siIentium | Grid with pets gets updated every now and then, but of cause not every time a change is made to the "official" one |
| 11:28.46 | breser | /Grid/jerry/Grid/ |
| 11:28.46 | breser | 04:26 < breser> Umm that looks like a private branch. |
| 11:28.56 | breser | oops |
| 11:28.58 | siIentium | but it works fine for me, I keep my local copy updated with an svn client of cause |
| 11:29.59 | kaffeemann | can i replace my org. grid with this release ? |
| 11:30.09 | siIentium | I did so, and it works fine |
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| 11:31.06 | kaffeemann | ok thx i will test it this evening :) |
| 11:32.01 | kaffeemann | why is no pet support in official gird release ? can somebody tell me? |
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| 11:34.39 | Grum | kaffeemann: because people cant care less i think |
| 11:34.46 | Grum | what pets would you like to see? |
| 11:35.17 | kaffeemann | hunter pets and maybe warlock guard |
| 11:35.26 | cryogen | for 5 man i can see it being useful |
| 11:35.30 | cryogen | in a raid i woudl tell the hunter to foad |
| 11:35.39 | Grum | cryogen: that is stupid |
| 11:35.43 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 11:35.44 | Grum | hunter pets do 300dps |
| 11:35.45 | siIentium | according to the official Grid with Pets thread http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7301.0 it isnt fully stable yet, it will be merged ino the official version once it's finished |
| 11:35.47 | Ellipsis | I *always* tell hunters to foad |
| 11:36.00 | cryogen | Grum: "yay"? |
| 11:36.15 | Grum | cryogen: hunters themselves about 700-900 |
| 11:36.24 | siIentium | and our BM hunters love me for keeping their pets alive |
| 11:36.32 | Ellipsis | the only time you should care about healing a pet is if it's OTing (fail) or CCing in a 5man |
| 11:36.33 | cryogen | hunters suck, end of dicussion :p |
| 11:36.38 | cryogen | see forums for evidence! |
| 11:36.48 | Grum | cryogen: that is only because they can not wear plate |
| 11:37.22 | siIentium | I dont see a reason for not healing a pet if the rest of the raid's health bars are fine |
| 11:37.30 | Grum | yup |
| 11:37.35 | Grum | its still raid-dps |
| 11:37.35 | Ellipsis | saving your mana for when they're *not* fine, maybe? |
| 11:37.46 | siIentium | I'm a pally, I dont run oom ;) |
| 11:37.55 | Ellipsis | freaking pallies |
| 11:38.03 | Ellipsis | you should go with the hunter imo |
| 11:38.24 | Grum | i have a hunter, you can go with me! |
| 11:38.59 | cryogen | the point is moot, i dont heal :) |
| 11:39.20 | cryogen | not yet anyway |
| 11:39.24 | siIentium | if you dont heal then you dont need pets in grid anyway ;p |
| 11:39.25 | Grum | so you also dont need healing? |
| 11:39.27 | cryogen | my new druid might be a tree |
| 11:39.43 | Ellipsis | if you don't heal then you don't need raid frames |
| 11:39.59 | Ellipsis | (unless you're raid leader but that doesn't count) |
| 11:40.03 | siIentium | grid is still useful for mages for example, to buff and decurse |
| 11:40.06 | cryogen | its nice to see whats going on |
| 11:40.13 | cryogen | as long as it doesnt take up all the screen |
| 11:40.21 | cryogen | which grid is perfect for |
| 11:40.39 | cryogen | or small scale raid frames |
| 11:40.53 | Ellipsis | I could never quite get grid to be as compact as I wanted |
| 11:41.25 | Ellipsis | at least, not without skipping the indicators altogether, which then made it pretty pointless to keep on top of my normal UF addon |
| 11:41.42 | Grum | why would you have both? |
| 11:41.50 | siIentium | before Grid I used CTRA *shudder* (before 2.0), so I have loads of available screen space now |
| 11:42.12 | Ellipsis | exactly, I just ended up dropping Grid and setting up raid frames that looked nearly the same |
| 11:42.42 | Ellipsis | the only difference being I had the mana bars I wanted and I had one less addon |
| 11:43.12 | Grum | Ellipsis: grid has manabars |
| 11:43.23 | Ellipsis | it didn't the last time I used it :P |
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| 11:43.47 | Grum | its called: GridManaBars :D |
| 11:43.53 | Ellipsis | I know |
| 11:44.00 | siIentium | I wont try to convert ppl from other good raid frames to grid if they are happy, just saying that I'm happy with my grid setup and dont need any larger raid frames |
| 11:44.01 | Grum | http://files.wowace.com/GridManaBars/ |
| 11:44.01 | Ellipsis | that didn't exist when I was using Grid |
| 11:45.06 | Grum | ah :) |
| 11:45.22 | Ellipsis | my frames ended up being nearly identical to the Grid setup I had anyway |
| 11:46.06 | Stanzilla | I use PitBull for my raidframes |
| 11:46.08 | Grum | i like it because it's so damn flexible |
| 11:47.05 | Ellipsis | I dunno, I've found PitBull to be even more flexible than Grid |
| 11:47.40 | cryogen | i would like to be able to raid to play with raid frames :( |
| 11:47.41 | Ellipsis | at first I even copied the indicator thing using text strings in certain places |
| 11:47.44 | cryogen | level 32 atm! |
| 11:47.51 | Ellipsis | but I found that I didn't really need indicators anyhow |
| 11:48.09 | Grum | Ellipsis: for me it's really needed to be able to mark people in a certain way if they ahve certain debuffs |
| 11:48.19 | Ellipsis | I can't decurse, so... :P |
| 11:48.25 | Grum | me neither |
| 11:48.27 | Grum | but i can heal :) |
| 11:48.29 | Ellipsis | (or heal) |
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| 11:48.55 | Ellipsis | I used indicators for Soulstone and Blood Pact |
| 11:49.24 | Grum | oh that's useful indeed |
| 11:49.30 | Ellipsis | but it turned out that a separate SS mod worked better for me, and BP I have a DogTag for |
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| 11:55.21 | si-m1 | Ellipsis: you can dispell :) |
| 11:55.57 | si-m1 | or rather, your minion can |
| 11:57.06 | Ellipsis | I have never in my life used my felpuppy to dispell |
| 11:58.23 | JoshBorke | not even offensively? |
| 11:58.54 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 11:59.20 | Ellipsis | (btw: I don't PvP) |
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| 12:10.39 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52135 10AutoBar/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 12:10.39 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 12:10.39 | CIA-12 | Update zhTW translation. |
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| 12:19.43 | neenee | http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/10/12/ptr-230-mini-map-improvements/#more-259 woo :) |
| 12:19.48 | neenee | I wonder when 2.3 will be live :) |
| 12:20.05 | SunTsu | .o0( Around this time, next year? ) |
| 12:20.25 | flexom | Ellipsis: a warlock that doesn't pvp? o.O :p (the world is ending^^) |
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| 12:22.00 | JoshBorke | i think 2.3 will go live mid november |
| 12:22.54 | kenlyric | I predict that a statistically insignificant number of predictions will come true. |
| 12:22.58 | cryogen | its on the ptr now, thats a good start |
| 12:23.11 | cryogen | so Sooner Rather than Later is accurate |
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| 12:23.23 | kenlyric | see you next tuesday |
| 12:23.45 | SunTsu | Let's hope it stays on PTR long enough |
| 12:24.54 | cryogen | the mini map improvements look cool |
| 12:25.36 | cryogen | SunTsu: i get the impression thay have been working on 2.3 internally for a very long time |
| 12:27.14 | Grum | lol the minimapchanges are what Cartographer-and-alike have been doing for ages |
| 12:27.37 | kenlyric | that's a good thing. |
| 12:27.45 | Grum | definately |
| 12:27.54 | cryogen | thats the point |
| 12:28.01 | cryogen | they react to thing people use a lot |
| 12:28.05 | cryogen | things |
| 12:28.07 | kenlyric | when they make the game do something by default it always should have. |
| 12:28.08 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/75326 |
| 12:28.20 | cryogen | usually they do a poorer job of it |
| 12:28.21 | cryogen | but still |
| 12:28.27 | cryogen | (hello, blizzar draid frames) |
| 12:28.35 | kenlyric | floating combat text |
| 12:28.35 | Codayus | Or their SCT implementation. |
| 12:28.39 | Codayus | Yar. |
| 12:28.50 | Codayus | But still, it's better than NOT having anything. |
| 12:28.52 | Grum | well that one is nice but it needs so much more on an api |
| 12:28.57 | kenlyric | those changes are for people who don't use mods :) |
| 12:29.04 | cryogen | ya |
| 12:29.06 | cryogen | and this is good |
| 12:29.18 | SunTsu | cryogen: I hope so. I get the impression that they thought about it for a long time, but I doubt that they worked on it for so long. Like they said about Zul'aman. Something like "No worries, it doesn't need as much testing time as speech chat did" |
| 12:29.20 | cryogen | but seriously, wtf were they thinking with the first raid frames |
| 12:29.30 | Grum | they had no raidframes :D |
| 12:29.35 | kenlyric | cryogen: retarded monkey? |
| 12:29.44 | cryogen | they didnt even save between reloads |
| 12:29.50 | cryogen | it was.. pathetic at best |
| 12:29.55 | Grum | cryogen: what raidframes are you talking about now? |
| 12:29.57 | kenlyric | I think he means the pre 2.0.1 kind, which didn't remember their position. |
| 12:29.59 | Grum | did they make anything better ? |
| 12:30.03 | Codayus | And the backend codying was...lol. |
| 12:30.03 | Grum | ah |
| 12:30.10 | Grum | the current ones are laughable too |
| 12:30.11 | cryogen | the drag a group/class to the screen frames |
| 12:30.18 | cryogen | yeah |
| 12:30.19 | cryogen | i do |
| 12:30.23 | Grum | you still have that right? |
| 12:30.24 | kenlyric | they're functional enough. |
| 12:30.25 | cryogen | and yeah, they arent much better |
| 12:30.25 | Codayus | Any time they add a feature that spawns addons dedicated to FIXING their code to unbreak the game... |
| 12:30.29 | cryogen | but they are better |
| 12:30.30 | kenlyric | you can see everyone in the raid. |
| 12:30.48 | Codayus | But they're usable; I think we have a couple raiders who use them. |
| 12:30.55 | cryogen | they are now |
| 12:31.01 | cryogen | they didnt used to be :) |
| 12:31.17 | Codayus | Yes, I do mean now. |
| 12:31.20 | Grum | they arent healers hehe |
| 12:31.37 | kenlyric | they're functional enough for healing. |
| 12:32.01 | cryogen | with something like ct unit frames installed, they could be much better |
| 12:32.02 | Codayus | True, they are. I wouldn't want to have to use them for that, but... |
| 12:32.04 | kenlyric | other mods are more useful, of course.. |
| 12:32.17 | kenlyric | i'd rather claw my eyes out than use them for healing :) |
| 12:32.29 | kenlyric | like being back in MC with CTRA |
| 12:32.35 | Codayus | Heh |
| 12:32.36 | kenlyric | but no EM! |
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| 12:33.12 | cryogen | emergency monitor flash heal spam healing ftw |
| 12:33.14 | cryogen | i miss that |
| 12:33.17 | Codayus | Back in MC I used an auto-target/auto-rank mod bound to tilde for healing, mostly. |
| 12:33.36 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 12:33.40 | Codayus | I spent a lot of time chatting and browsing forums. |
| 12:33.45 | kenlyric | heal 2 spam on #2 em |
| 12:34.51 | Codayus | The way I saw it, if they were going to give us such boring encounters, I wasn't going to go to the effort of paying attention... :-D |
| 12:34.56 | kenlyric | I wanna be in one of those raids where priests have the easy life again, throwing heals on whoever needs them. |
| 12:35.14 | kenlyric | And where the pallies and druids get blamed more than us. |
| 12:35.19 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 12:35.30 | cryogen | i had click casting on CTRA |
| 12:35.36 | cryogen | i just spammed flash heal on anything that moved |
| 12:35.39 | cryogen | .. or took damage |
| 12:35.49 | cryogen | then got innervated, and did it all over again |
| 12:35.52 | [Ammo] | 1 button wonder |
| 12:35.57 | cryogen | indeed |
| 12:35.58 | cryogen | it was pro |
| 12:35.58 | [Ammo] | glad they disabled that crap |
| 12:35.58 | kenlyric | i don't buy this, were you wearing t3 in MC? |
| 12:36.09 | kenlyric | flash heal is fucking expensive to spam. |
| 12:36.15 | cryogen | kenlyric: i didnt say i did a good job |
| 12:36.16 | Codayus | [Ammo]: Agreed. |
| 12:36.23 | kenlyric | oops, sorry, -fucking |
| 12:36.32 | cryogen | i did however top healing meters :) |
| 12:36.34 | kenlyric | wait, i'm not off topic. |
| 12:36.37 | kenlyric | so it's still ok? |
| 12:36.42 | cryogen | heh |
| 12:36.52 | Ellipsis | what fun would this channel be without the fucking?...oh wait |
| 12:37.14 | cryogen | kenlyric: also i was one of thos epriests focused on raw int and mp5, instead of +healing |
| 12:37.21 | cryogen | 22 int on benediction etc |
| 12:37.35 | cryogen | hell this was a long time ago :) |
| 12:37.42 | SunTsu | .o0( MC - where I, as a feral, had to heal, was OOM 30 seconds later, and was told I should spare innervate for priests, because they do healing more efficiently... ) |
| 12:37.44 | cryogen | back when bwl was new even! |
| 12:37.47 | Codayus | Yeah, during MC, you couldn't really stack heal... |
| 12:38.01 | Codayus | DM (and later ZG) blues > *. Mostly with heavy mp5. |
| 12:38.07 | kenlyric | i was pretty much all +heal guy. Kept hoping for that magical day when I could drop down to heal 1 |
| 12:38.10 | kenlyric | then we hit AQ |
| 12:38.25 | Ellipsis | I don't care what anyone says, DM blues are hawt for healing. |
| 12:38.32 | Codayus | They were for the day... |
| 12:38.37 | cryogen | ah yes the joys of heal rank 2 |
| 12:38.41 | cryogen | i spammed that a lot in naxx |
| 12:38.44 | kenlyric | certainly better than that freakin T1 |
| 12:38.46 | Codayus | Double mindtap = win |
| 12:38.55 | Codayus | Got MC itemization was bad. |
| 12:38.55 | kenlyric | yes, +9h/d is AWESOME |
| 12:39.02 | many | short after aq opened i went with some random group and we already failed miserably on the first boss. |
| 12:39.02 | Codayus | Er, s/got/god |
| 12:39.15 | many | since then i was only walking scholo and strat |
| 12:39.29 | kenlyric | in 20 or 40 |
| 12:39.30 | kenlyric | ? |
| 12:39.38 | kenlyric | because those are exponentionally different levels of fail |
| 12:39.40 | many | 20 i believe |
| 12:39.45 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.50 | kenlyric | you can wipe to that boss? |
| 12:39.51 | Ellipsis | I remember the good ol' days of AQ20 pugging |
| 12:39.51 | Codayus | I have to say, one thing I do like about TBC - for all the itemization flaws, they're a HELL of a lot better at it than they were 1.0. |
| 12:39.59 | kenlyric | He |
| 12:40.01 | kenlyric | Not they |
| 12:40.03 | many | the boss which spawns these sandworms |
| 12:40.17 | kenlyric | itemization is one dude in a closet. |
| 12:40.18 | SunTsu | many: Well, thats no shame. I was in AQ40 on a "fun run" and we failed the first boss. With 40 lvl70, that is |
| 12:40.28 | many | SunTsu: wtf oO |
| 12:40.38 | kenlyric | SunTsu: well, skeram requires execution, not just power. |
| 12:41.01 | cryogen | lol |
| 12:41.07 | SunTsu | kenlyric: Right. It still is a shame. |
| 12:41.07 | Ellipsis | I went on an AQ40 fun run once that failed @ first boss...then again, there were about 35 of us @ level 60 in ~T2 |
| 12:41.29 | many | walk in, turn right, down some five stairs or so |
| 12:41.39 | kenlyric | I've just never been in a group that wiped to the first aq20 boss. |
| 12:41.46 | Codayus | kenlyric: Heh, I have... |
| 12:41.54 | cryogen | kenlyric: its pretty punishing on poorly geared healers |
| 12:41.55 | cryogen | tbh |
| 12:41.59 | kenlyric | And with the sort of groups I tend to run with, I use my experience as a general marker of fail. |
| 12:42.00 | cryogen | he hits hard |
| 12:42.07 | Ellipsis | I don't even remember the first boss of AQ20 |
| 12:42.09 | Codayus | Get enough alts and people in blues and a poor class balance...and it's pretty hard. |
| 12:42.14 | cryogen | yeah |
| 12:42.17 | Codayus | Imagine your healers can't dodge the traps. |
| 12:42.18 | kenlyric | cryogen: I guess maybe if you go there in quest blues at 60. |
| 12:42.29 | Codayus | And your tanks have issues with finding the taunt button. |
| 12:42.29 | cryogen | people did |
| 12:42.37 | kenlyric | alts? |
| 12:42.37 | cryogen | because the robes from him were awesome :) |
| 12:42.52 | Codayus | Turns out, if you get 10 stacks of the debuff, you get an "immune" message if you try to bandage. |
| 12:42.56 | cryogen | lol |
| 12:42.59 | kenlyric | lol |
| 12:43.01 | Ellipsis | all I remember of AQ20 was chain banishing without focus target (#%!$ing painful) and big numbers on that vulnerable boss... |
| 12:43.19 | Codayus | (Our guild MT found that out shortly after he found out that the guy attemtping to OT was...not smart.) |
| 12:43.33 | cryogen | i remember tanking the zerg boss on many occasions |
| 12:43.35 | cryogen | (i was a mage) |
| 12:43.39 | Codayus | "Taunt it off me!" "What?" |
| 12:43.40 | cryogen | cant remember his name |
| 12:43.42 | kenlyric | I still think the general was one of the best starts to a fight ever. It begged for vocals. |
| 12:43.48 | cryogen | the one with the eggs |
| 12:43.55 | Ellipsis | oh god |
| 12:44.02 | kenlyric | Remember when I said I would kill you last? |
| 12:44.04 | Ellipsis | I hated that fight |
| 12:44.04 | kenlyric | I LIED! |
| 12:44.12 | Ellipsis | that boss wanted me dead. badly. |
| 12:44.16 | cryogen | heh |
| 12:44.19 | cryogen | he was fun |
| 12:44.22 | kenlyric | levitate for buru |
| 12:44.23 | Codayus | I'll be honest, acouple fights in there were fun. |
| 12:44.27 | cryogen | especially when 10 waves came at once |
| 12:44.39 | Codayus | The zerg event (boss 2) was stupidly bugged for ever, and should have been removed or fixed. |
| 12:44.47 | Ellipsis | vent on that fight was always fun |
| 12:44.48 | cryogen | yeah |
| 12:44.49 | kenlyric | yeah, it was only well scripted in the first part. Then the fight started and the scripted went to hell. |
| 12:44.57 | Codayus | But most of the other bosses were fun. Ossirian was a BLAST. |
| 12:45.13 | Ellipsis | "bring him towards the triangle. no, the triangle! GUYS STOP DPSING THE EGG!" |
| 12:45.14 | cryogen | ossirian was fun for dps |
| 12:45.17 | cryogen | a pain in the ass for healers |
| 12:45.24 | kenlyric | Ossirian was the last thing my guild killed before 2.0.1 killed us. |
| 12:45.29 | Codayus | And a good way of finding which tanks were idiots. |
| 12:45.39 | cryogen | we had a seriously pro tank on ossirian once |
| 12:45.43 | kenlyric | well, 2.0.1 and aq40 |
| 12:45.44 | cryogen | he died at 50% |
| 12:45.50 | cryogen | got combat ressed |
| 12:45.52 | Codayus | Since there were so many ways a stupid tank could wipe you. |
| 12:45.55 | cryogen | and managed to get #2 in threat before a tank change |
| 12:45.57 | cryogen | it was awesome |
| 12:46.04 | Ellipsis | I remember winning the Black Blizzard legs off Ossirian....rolling against my Naxx-raiding bf :P |
| 12:46.08 | cryogen | ive never seen so much TPS :D |
| 12:46.08 | kenlyric | Codayus: there was a lot of that in aq40, too. |
| 12:46.13 | Ellipsis | that was freaking sweet...he sttill hasn't forgiven me XD |
| 12:46.19 | kenlyric | see my above statement about guild killing |
| 12:46.36 | Codayus | We didn't get to AQ40...as a very casual guild, we downed Ned the week before the TBC launch. :-) |
| 12:46.48 | cryogen | aq40.. the instance full of hellish trash |
| 12:46.48 | Codayus | Hmm, I'm oddly nostalgic for AQ20 now though... :-( |
| 12:46.54 | Codayus | WTB - heroic mode AQ20. |
| 12:46.55 | kenlyric | I'll heal! |
| 12:47.01 | cryogen | man, that an instance with some shit trash but nice bosses |
| 12:47.06 | cryogen | that was* |
| 12:47.09 | Codayus | Heh |
| 12:47.21 | Ellipsis | I wanna put together an AQ20 nostalgia run now... |
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| 12:47.22 | cryogen | cthun trash.. /wrists just thinking about it |
| 12:47.39 | kenlyric | I think trash should decay over time. |
| 12:47.44 | Codayus | Hmm, misdirect would make the ossirian trash SOOO much easier... |
| 12:47.50 | kenlyric | every month, remove one pull :) |
| 12:47.55 | cryogen | lol |
| 12:47.57 | Codayus | I hear ZA has very little trash - I'm looking forward to it. |
| 12:48.06 | kenlyric | Codayus: you hear from players? |
| 12:48.07 | cryogen | every boss kill remove one trash mob |
| 12:48.08 | cryogen | for your guild |
| 12:48.12 | Codayus | kenlyric: Yes. |
| 12:48.16 | kenlyric | because blizz lies through the teeth about that stuff. |
| 12:49.04 | kenlyric | I need to find wind serpents that drop serpent flesh who aren't surrounded by pathing pairs of warlocks. |
| 12:49.22 | kenlyric | I seriously believe this stuff doesn't drop. |
| 12:49.31 | kenlyric | nobody in town ever has any, there is never any on the AH. |
| 12:49.54 | Codayus | It's designed to be cleared in a single timed run, so a well geared raid has to take < 20m to clear each section. That includes trash and the boss. |
| 12:50.48 | neenee | is ZA for very high raiders only? Like Kharazan? |
| 12:51.05 | Codayus | neenee: Uh... It's harder than Kara. |
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| 12:51.09 | Ellipsis | neenee, have you read Blizz's "is it casual?" explanation? :P |
| 12:51.17 | Codayus | Kara is for low end raiders. ZA is...mid range. :-) |
| 12:51.30 | neenee | So the answer to my question would be 'yes'. |
| 12:51.32 | neenee | oki |
| 12:51.42 | kenlyric | the answer would be "no" |
| 12:51.47 | Codayus | The first boss is intented to be roughly as hard as the hardest Karazhan boss. So... |
| 12:51.48 | kenlyric | since your statement was false. |
| 12:52.07 | SunTsu | neenee: According to Blizz the bosses start al the level of prince Malchezaan in Kara |
| 12:52.13 | SunTsu | s/al/at |
| 12:52.49 | Codayus | The first boss actually sounds a lot like the first AQ20 boss, coincidentally. |
| 12:53.06 | Codayus | Need 2 tanks to swap back and forth, and there's a silence effect to scew with your healers. :-) |
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| 12:53.28 | neenee | I just wanted to know if there was a chance I'd ever get a shot at it as a casual player. |
| 12:53.40 | neenee | In that sense, it's like Kharazan. |
| 12:53.41 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 12:53.42 | kenlyric | need more fights where you have to move constantly to completely screw over paladins! |
| 12:53.47 | Codayus | neenee: I'd say sure...since casuals can easily clear Kara. |
| 12:53.58 | Codayus | And ZA is only one step up. |
| 12:54.06 | Tahon | Any of you had problems with Omen not recognizing when you do Taunt? |
| 12:54.13 | kenlyric | neenee: so, did you intend your original question to have an "or" condition in it? |
| 12:54.30 | neenee | Nope. I did not mean to ask 'or is it like Kharazan'. |
| 12:54.36 | Recluse-ALT | is there a trick to make cartographer_import work or just doesn't work with the newest gatherer? |
| 12:54.40 | kenlyric | so you think karazhan is for high end raieders? |
| 12:54.43 | kenlyric | -e |
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| 12:56.18 | neenee | Yup, I think it's a high-end instance. But perhaps that's just my guild, where there's no chance to get into it when you're not up to a certain standard, which is more based on performance gauged against other guilds than against what is actually needed to complete the instance. |
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| 12:56.41 | neenee | I might have a shot at it in another guild. |
| 12:57.08 | Codayus | Um, it may be high end compared to ramparts, but it's not a "high end raid" in any sense of the term... |
| 12:57.13 | Codayus | ...sounds like your guild fails, IMHO. |
| 12:57.18 | Gandharva | ckknight: got this when I tried to set MA to all the raid members: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7650/79037054zh3.png |
| 12:57.22 | neenee | It is a high end raid to me. |
| 12:57.27 | neenee | In that sense it is :) |
| 12:57.41 | Codayus | neenee: High is a relative term. Since it's the lowest raid instance in existence...umm. |
| 12:58.00 | kenlyric | neenee: you don't understand the meaning of the term high end raid. |
| 12:58.03 | neenee | Hm... When did MC become a non-raid instance? |
| 12:58.13 | kenlyric | it's the smallest and earliest raid at endgame. |
| 12:58.20 | neenee | My opinion differs indeed. |
| 12:58.25 | Codayus | neenee: When the level cap was raised. *shrug* And frankly, MC wasn't any MORE casual friendly... |
| 12:58.25 | kenlyric | it's by definition the very lowest end. |
| 12:58.39 | kenlyric | discounting level 60 instances. |
| 12:59.07 | neenee | Ah well. I got my answer about a page up, so thanks for that :) |
| 12:59.15 | neenee | I'll go back to questing now. |
| 12:59.17 | Codayus | But that being said, there's nothing casual-unfriendly about Kara. Assuming you now how to play your class even slightly well, and have even passable pre-raid gear (as in mostly blues), you'd do fine in Kara. Any problems beyond that are your guild, and not the instance. |
| 12:59.26 | Codayus | s/now/know |
| 13:00.02 | kenlyric | i'd say players of equivalent skill have about the same chance in karazhan as in MC, but some things are different. |
| 13:00.07 | kenlyric | people have to know how to move in karazhan. |
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| 13:01.05 | Codayus | Well, MC did let REALLY bad people coast. |
| 13:01.11 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52136 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount.toc): |
| 13:01.11 | CIA-12 | Recount: |
| 13:01.11 | CIA-12 | - update .toc ==>2.2 |
| 13:01.11 | CIA-12 | - add local.now you can use more more languages for recount |
| 13:01.14 | Megalon | moving in a 3d environment involves multiple actions at once |
| 13:01.25 | kenlyric | yeah, 50% of your raid could fail at moving out of rain of fire. |
| 13:01.27 | Balstor | kkharazan is the BC version of UBRS |
| 13:01.27 | Megalon | at which 80% fail |
| 13:01.27 | Megalon | :< |
| 13:01.41 | Codayus | We once zoned in and cleared to Geddon...arcanist bracers dropped off a lava pack, and a druid in the raid grabbed them and logged. |
| 13:01.46 | kenlyric | if 50% of your raid fails to move out of blizzard, you will fail. |
| 13:02.12 | Codayus | Turned out that the ACTUAL druid wasn't there, a roomate of his had logged on, been autoinvited, and tagged along to the raid. |
| 13:02.15 | kenlyric | Balstor: not even close. |
| 13:02.33 | Codayus | We later noticed that he hadn't healed anyone for the entire run, and nobody had even noticed. |
| 13:03.08 | Grum | Gnarfoz: the error you had with Cartographer_Routes has been fixed btw |
| 13:03.15 | Gnarfoz | Grum: yay great |
| 13:03.25 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.26 | Grum | i run a german wow now O.o |
| 13:03.26 | Codayus | He'd spent 90 minutes on /follow. :-/ Now, there's no way in hell you could just not notice that one of your raiders in Kara is a random non-wow player. ;-) |
| 13:03.33 | many | Codayus: lol |
| 13:03.49 | Ellipsis | that's only because 10 < 40 |
| 13:03.52 | Gnarfoz | (I should probably /afk here or something, irssi on a non-disconnecting line makes it seem I'm always around ^^) |
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| 13:03.59 | Codayus | But I don't think that means MC is casual friendly, it's "afk friendly", and yes, mostly because of the 40 man cap. |
| 13:04.12 | kenlyric | and the fights are less complicated. |
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| 13:04.22 | Codayus | (Lava packs, frankly, are harder than any kara trash, IMHO.) |
| 13:04.31 | Ellipsis | lol? |
| 13:04.35 | kenlyric | lava packs? |
| 13:04.36 | Grum | Gnarfoz: i have the same hehe .. irssi ftw |
| 13:04.39 | Codayus | Yes. |
| 13:04.47 | Megalon | Packs of pain |
| 13:04.48 | Megalon | :P |
| 13:04.48 | kenlyric | why don't I remember packs of lava? |
| 13:04.54 | Gnarfoz | Grum: made of win, innit? :> |
| 13:04.59 | Codayus | In the tunnel - your guild may have called them something else. |
| 13:05.03 | Gnarfoz | Grum: quite the opposite of the deDE WoW client :< |
| 13:05.06 | Codayus | Mixed groups of elementals; lots of stuns. |
| 13:05.07 | Megalon | 2 fire elementals |
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| 13:05.10 | kenlyric | oh, the burning guys |
| 13:05.10 | Megalon | 2 earth eles |
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| 13:05.12 | Tahon | lava packs were just a matter of resistance |
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| 13:05.13 | Ellipsis | you mean banish soup? |
| 13:05.17 | kenlyric | fucking dickheads |
| 13:05.22 | Megalon | insane aoe firedmg |
| 13:05.26 | Codayus | Typically had the entire raid stack FR, banish everything, tank stuff... |
| 13:05.27 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: those are fun with one warlock. |
| 13:05.29 | Megalon | for that time |
| 13:05.37 | Grum | Gnarfoz: i actually installed the german language pack for my wow so i could really the localization problems O.o |
| 13:05.37 | Codayus | They were a FREAKING pain until we outgeared it enough to trvialize it. |
| 13:05.38 | kenlyric | actually, so is garr |
| 13:05.51 | Gnarfoz | Grum: yeah, figured as much =) |
| 13:05.52 | Ellipsis | I only ever did MC in pugs, and there was never a shortage for locks |
| 13:06.02 | Ellipsis | s/for/of |
| 13:06.02 | Grum | +fix ... |
| 13:06.05 | kenlyric | good for your magical perfectland! |
| 13:06.05 | xyu | or @$^ lock drops |
| 13:06.09 | Ellipsis | lock drops? |
| 13:06.14 | xyu | man it was so easy to gear a lock or druid |
| 13:06.16 | xyu | back in MC days |
| 13:06.17 | Codayus | Heh |
| 13:06.21 | Ellipsis | are you kidding? |
| 13:06.24 | xyu | no |
| 13:06.24 | Megalon | hey |
| 13:06.29 | Ellipsis | I never got freaking anything from MC |
| 13:06.30 | Megalon | 2 ragnaros kills |
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| 13:06.33 | Megalon | 3 stormrage legs |
| 13:06.33 | Megalon | :x |
| 13:06.34 | kenlyric | warlocks #1, rogues #9 |
| 13:07.14 | xyu | crazy...cuz our locks didn't need a single thing |
| 13:07.14 | kenlyric | yes, #9, even with only 8 classes in the game |
| 13:07.14 | Codayus | Yeah, we had applicant locks come, pick up 4 pieces of t1, t2 pants of rag, and a couple random non-set drops... |
| 13:07.14 | xyu | and druids were going on 3rd enchants |
| 13:07.14 | kenlyric | locks came in fourth and first. |
| 13:07.14 | Ellipsis | I literally went from greens to BWL gear |
| 13:07.14 | Codayus | More than one lock would win t1 and t2 pants on the same night. |
| 13:07.14 | Ellipsis | with a bit of AQ20 and my T2 helm thrown in |
| 13:07.16 | xyu | strange |
| 13:07.16 | Grum | Ellipsis: and now you suck again? :D |
| 13:07.18 | xyu | what drops did you guys have? |
| 13:07.30 | Ellipsis | Grum: hay be nice, emokitteh is sensitive =[ |
| 13:07.38 | xyu | we did have an awesome golemag. 5 MC weeks, 4 mageblades and 1 SoD |
| 13:07.38 | xyu | lol |
| 13:07.42 | cryogen | i remember doing MC before the warlock buffs |
| 13:07.47 | Ellipsis | xyu, I saw bracers drop once...shoulders once too I think |
| 13:07.48 | cryogen | fuck me was it hard to find a warlock back then |
| 13:07.54 | Codayus | yes |
| 13:08.03 | xyu | bracers are hard yeah, well mage bracers were. i think i was the only mage w/ them |
| 13:08.04 | Ellipsis | I never won a roll on lock gear |
| 13:08.04 | Codayus | The class was at a low ebb; everyone had rerolled... |
| 13:08.06 | xyu | i still have them actually |
| 13:08.13 | Ellipsis | and *never* saw the pants off rag |
| 13:08.14 | xyu | never had the heart to delete |
| 13:08.26 | xyu | I never saw the neck off rag |
| 13:08.27 | xyu | ever |
| 13:08.36 | Tahon | Any of you had problems with Omen not recognizing when you do Taunt? |
| 13:08.37 | Codayus | Now it's still hard to find locks becausr they're too busy pvping. |
| 13:08.38 | Codayus | Bleh. |
| 13:08.47 | xyu | hehe |
| 13:08.49 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 13:08.53 | Ellipsis | I'm always around =] |
| 13:09.24 | Ellipsis | sadly it always seems that when I get into a PUG the three dps are me, another lock, and a mage |
| 13:09.43 | xyu | for 5 mans? |
| 13:09.52 | Ellipsis | actually, occasionally replace the mage with a spriest for even worse luck |
| 13:09.53 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 13:10.02 | Ellipsis | I'm not keyed for heroics/kara yet |
| 13:10.20 | xyu | yeah sadly, most groups take casters for dps these days |
| 13:10.21 | kenlyric | people still get keyed for heroics? |
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| 13:10.25 | xyu | i can't remember last time i had a rogue in my group lol |
| 13:10.29 | kenlyric | i guess if you want exalted for a recipe. |
| 13:10.42 | kenlyric | xyu: I remember every time I'm forced to heal a rogue :( |
| 13:10.48 | Ellipsis | right now, I'm just trying to get decent blues on (and obviously key for kara) |
| 13:10.51 | SunTsu | Tahon: What should omen notice when you taunt? |
| 13:10.52 | Codayus | Exalted for flasks is nice. |
| 13:10.53 | kenlyric | and his crowd control that only works once. |
| 13:11.07 | xyu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.14 | Tahon | SunTsu: it should put me on top of the threat list |
| 13:11.44 | kenlyric | I think I found my worst example of instance. My horde guild ran a *guild group* to BM to key people for kara. |
| 13:11.49 | kenlyric | it wiped *before the first boss* |
| 13:12.00 | Ellipsis | my last BM attempt wiped clearing trash |
| 13:12.03 | Ellipsis | I gave up |
| 13:12.10 | Codayus | Yeah, I've done that. |
| 13:12.12 | SunTsu | Tahon: I think that's arguable, because its nothing that lasts. If you fail to make enough aggro afterwards the mob will not stay with you |
| 13:12.18 | Ellipsis | pugs f'ing fail at BM |
| 13:12.20 | Ellipsis | and it makes me cry |
| 13:12.21 | kenlyric | that's up there with warriors who don't know beserker stance |
| 13:12.25 | xyu | my Hyjal guild wiped to HKM so many times that respawns came up... |
| 13:12.26 | xyu | lol |
| 13:12.29 | xyu | that was a bad night |
| 13:12.36 | kenlyric | I completely understand wiping to the second boss and beyond in that place. |
| 13:12.40 | Ellipsis | xyu, fail :P |
| 13:12.40 | Codayus | One person runs in, one person goes AFK, someone else gets lost, someone starts screaming for a healer... |
| 13:12.48 | cryogen | BM is great |
| 13:12.50 | xyu | The mage tank kept dying EVERY single time |
| 13:13.00 | Tahon | SunTsu: no really, that's what taunt does. puts you on top of the aggro list |
| 13:13.00 | cryogen | the arguments about when to drop becons |
| 13:13.02 | cryogen | then wiping |
| 13:13.03 | cryogen | funfun |
| 13:13.04 | Codayus | Slowly the wildlife overwhelms us one by one... |
| 13:13.13 | Ellipsis | I remember healing huntard tank for HKM |
| 13:13.14 | kenlyric | xyu: there's a certain point on the spectrum when fail is less epic. |
| 13:13.18 | SunTsu | Tahon: But only temporary. |
| 13:13.24 | kenlyric | like, when you're ahead of 95% of the population. |
| 13:13.24 | Ellipsis | I was so bored I nearly killed myself |
| 13:13.39 | cryogen | SunTsu: nah, it keeps you there, but lowers the "pull away" threat threshold |
| 13:13.39 | kenlyric | wiping to the spider boss in Karazhan - epic fail |
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| 13:13.50 | Codayus | HKM is kinda boring; if the pull goes right it should be VERY boring. |
| 13:13.52 | Ellipsis | but my GM in his infinite wisdom decided I didn't need to be positioned somewhere where I could heal anyone else... |
| 13:13.55 | kenlyric | possibly even legendary fail |
| 13:14.02 | Codayus | ....speaking of which, since 2.2, fear ward works on the tank during his enrage. |
| 13:14.05 | xyu | haha |
| 13:14.07 | Tahon | SunTsu: no threat is temporary. only the debuff is temporary, which is irrelevant to a threat meter |
| 13:14.12 | Codayus | The only thing more boring than HKM? HKM who NEVER CHARGES. |
| 13:14.16 | xyu | well that can get out of hand can't it? pulling too many or people afk'ing |
| 13:15.00 | SunTsu | cryogen: It only keeps you there while the taunt lasts, you still have to make anough aggro to get on top of the aggro list permanently. Or did I misunderstand something? |
| 13:15.10 | cryogen | you did |
| 13:15.14 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 13:15.18 | cryogen | i suck at explaining thoughs |
| 13:15.20 | cryogen | so i wont try |
| 13:15.29 | cryogen | there is plenty of literature about the mechanics of taunt, though |
| 13:15.34 | Ellipsis | it sets your aggro = to top of the threat list, but only guarantees aggro til the debuff runs out |
| 13:15.35 | Codayus | SunTsu: Taunt grants you the threat needed to make you equal to the person with the most threat. |
| 13:15.39 | Codayus | This threat is permenant. |
| 13:15.42 | cryogen | s/thoughs/things/ |
| 13:15.53 | Codayus | Taunt also FORCED the mob to attac kyou regardless of threat. |
| 13:15.55 | Codayus | This is temporary. |
| 13:16.01 | kenlyric | how many mobs would you say it takes the average tank to learn a particular kind isn't tautnable? |
| 13:16.09 | Ellipsis | 12 |
| 13:16.11 | SunTsu | Codayus: Ah, OK |
| 13:16.31 | Codayus | If a tank wipes 10 minutes into a fight, gets rezzed, and taunts the boss, he will have the same threat as the old tank, even after taunt wears off. |
| 13:16.38 | Codayus | Er, dies, not wipes. |
| 13:16.44 | Tahon | kenlyric: hehe that depends whether he's able to see the 'immune' message over the mob's head |
| 13:16.53 | Ellipsis | no, it doesn't |
| 13:17.11 | Ellipsis | Blizz could implement a giant red "immune" text that covers the entire screen and can't be disabled |
| 13:17.13 | cryogen | i love warriors that spam taunt every times its off cooldown |
| 13:17.18 | Ellipsis | and it would still take 5 tries for a warr to figure it out |
| 13:17.28 | cryogen | even when tanking one mob, and having aggro |
| 13:17.32 | Ellipsis | (sorry to the warrs in here) |
| 13:17.38 | Ellipsis | cryogen, in certain situations it can help |
| 13:17.47 | Ellipsis | but most warrs don't know which situations those are :P |
| 13:17.50 | cryogen | in one situation |
| 13:17.50 | kenlyric | cryogen: is it better than priests who spam fade? |
| 13:17.52 | cryogen | only :p |
| 13:17.59 | Codayus | I know of one... |
| 13:18.01 | Ellipsis | I FADED GUD |
| 13:18.20 | Codayus | It's kinda useful on HAS, I think? |
| 13:18.20 | cryogen | spamming fade doesnt really help |
| 13:18.21 | Ellipsis | *fade wears off* WAT Y DEY ATAKIN ME |
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| 13:18.26 | Codayus | (Spamming taunt, not fade.) |
| 13:18.32 | Lothaer | Fucking PTR |
| 13:18.32 | cryogen | HAS? |
| 13:18.37 | Codayus | High Astromancer Solarian |
| 13:18.39 | Codayus | Sorry |
| 13:18.43 | cryogen | im talking about 5 man pugs |
| 13:18.45 | cryogen | not raiding : |
| 13:18.46 | cryogen | p |
| 13:18.47 | Codayus | ....oh |
| 13:18.48 | Codayus | Sorry |
| 13:18.57 | cryogen | 5 man trash mobs at that |
| 13:19.06 | Ellipsis | tbh, if a tank can't generate threat for crap, I'd rather he take mine |
| 13:19.07 | cryogen | when you cc 2 and they spam taunt on the remaining 3rd |
| 13:19.18 | Codayus | Oh |
| 13:19.34 | Codayus | Yeah, spamming taunt as a semi-cc is sometime nice. |
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| 13:19.52 | Codayus | If all your trying to beat is healing aggro because your DPSing something else... |
| 13:19.53 | SunTsu | kenlyric: Well, DDs sometimes don't learn that either. Some of them never wonder why certain mobs are never taunted off them after they got aggro |
| 13:19.56 | Codayus | It works. |
| 13:19.58 | kenlyric | bah, thunderclap! |
| 13:20.19 | Ellipsis | I freaking hate thunderclap for the record |
| 13:20.28 | Lothaer | why? |
| 13:20.32 | Ellipsis | my succubus only has so much mana, you break the CC enough times and her mob *will* be loose. |
| 13:20.33 | kenlyric | as a priest in karazhan, I agree with you. |
| 13:20.54 | Lothaer | shadow? |
| 13:20.59 | Tahon | don't hate thunderclap, it's very useful. hate the fool who dunno how to use it |
| 13:21.11 | Ellipsis | I hate the fool who tanks stuff on top of a seduced mob |
| 13:21.22 | cryogen | as a tank i hate people who cc stuff |
| 13:21.23 | Lothaer | i just hate idiots that get targets wrong and break my shackles |
| 13:21.27 | cryogen | more mobs hitting = more rage:) |
| 13:21.30 | Ellipsis | and then goes "o hay that one's runnin away! betar thunderclap!" |
| 13:21.40 | kenlyric | I learned to wait until after the thunderclap. |
| 13:21.47 | Lothaer | ctyogen: more changes for healer to pull aggro and die |
| 13:21.51 | Ellipsis | I learned to not freaking try |
| 13:21.55 | cryogen | Lothaer: but im a good tank :) |
| 13:22.00 | Ellipsis | I have enough to worry about doing double/triple CC duty + dps |
| 13:22.02 | Lothaer | means nothing |
| 13:22.07 | cryogen | i only break cc when needed though |
| 13:22.08 | Lothaer | good tanks can make mistakes |
| 13:22.11 | cryogen | i judge how good the healer is |
| 13:22.17 | cryogen | if he is good enough i'll tank more stuff |
| 13:22.23 | Ellipsis | I spam my seduce macro, and if the succy goes OOM, then it's not my fault |
| 13:22.48 | Lothaer | not the healers fault if u pull more than they can heal for though |
| 13:22.49 | cryogen | (i wouldnt try this in heroics though) |
| 13:23.25 | Tahon | SH heroic will teach the group to work together on the CC |
| 13:23.41 | Lothaer | if a healer could kepe the tank alive in Herioic SV with the tank tanking 2x Giants hes OMG AWSOME or hes hacking something LOL |
| 13:24.03 | Ellipsis | oh, and my favorite pet peeve is when I've had an imp out for the last ten pulls, then the leader marks a seduce target and immediately pulls |
| 13:24.14 | Lothaer | ROFL |
| 13:24.18 | Ellipsis | what, you mean not all locks have a half second summon? |
| 13:24.34 | Lothaer | lol |
| 13:24.45 | Lothaer | i hat ebing a priest in Arena |
| 13:24.52 | JoshBorke | me too! |
| 13:24.58 | Lothaer | they all go for me 1st |
| 13:25.01 | kenlyric | i wish blizzard would make more distinctions than elite/non-elite. |
| 13:25.08 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 13:25.11 | kenlyric | how about, normal/elite/omfgOUCH |
| 13:25.13 | Lothaer | its like lets do arena we all go in and ill die 1st then u guys killthe rest |
| 13:25.24 | Lothaer | itd probably be easier with out a priest |
| 13:25.26 | Ellipsis | if I had a nickel for every time I tried to solo an elite who really should have been "really uber elite".... |
| 13:25.39 | Lothaer | IMHO priest need some sort of survivability buff |
| 13:25.43 | Tahon | Lothaer: pain suppression :p |
| 13:25.47 | kenlyric | Morcrush this time around |
| 13:25.48 | Lothaer | holy |
| 13:25.54 | Lothaer | 31/30/0 |
| 13:25.58 | kenlyric | uh |
| 13:26.03 | Tahon | respec then |
| 13:26.13 | Lothaer | !c soinebreaker us lothaer |
| 13:26.22 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 13:26.28 | Lothaer | !c us spinebreaker lothaer |
| 13:26.31 | ThraeBot | Lothaer: Lothaer, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (31/30/0). 6631 HP; 10016 Mana; 182 mana regen; 38 mp5; 98 spell crit; 16 spell hit; 618 +spell dmg; 728 +heal; 6.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 655 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2a39dp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vazhg ][ Updated: Mon Oct 15 09:28:47 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:26.40 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 13:26.42 | Ellipsis | he's a nelf |
| 13:26.45 | Ellipsis | now it all makes sense |
| 13:26.50 | Lothaer | getting a buff in 2,3 |
| 13:26.58 | Lothaer | free cast damage spell lol |
| 13:27.05 | Ellipsis | Lothaer, do you play a female character? |
| 13:27.16 | Lothaer | nope |
| 13:27.17 | Lothaer | male |
| 13:27.19 | Ellipsis | k |
| 13:27.20 | Lothaer | im a dude |
| 13:27.25 | Lothaer | not a pansy |
| 13:27.30 | Tahon | 6631 hp in arena? ouch |
| 13:27.43 | Lothaer | 1500 rating |
| 13:27.44 | Chompers | all my chars are female |
| 13:27.47 | Lothaer | just started lol |
| 13:27.52 | Lothaer | pansy |
| 13:27.52 | Chompers | lots of free stuff from fat nerds |
| 13:27.53 | Lothaer | jk |
| 13:27.54 | neenee | Some of mine are female, some of mine are male. |
| 13:28.07 | Hjalte | Tahon, i fought a mage yesterday with 5,5k health in the arena :) Cute. |
| 13:28.09 | kenlyric | i'd play the male, but the only males on the alliance are night elves and meh to them for raiding priests. |
| 13:28.18 | Tahon | did you beat him? |
| 13:28.33 | Lothaer | kenlyric........ /slap |
| 13:28.37 | Lothaer | im a raiding NE Priest |
| 13:28.49 | kenlyric | certainly not on purpose. |
| 13:28.55 | Lothaer | yeah i am actually |
| 13:29.00 | kenlyric | I was also a raiding NE priest, but I didn't know any better. |
| 13:29.08 | Lothaer | imho PvE > PvP |
| 13:29.22 | Lothaer | why because they donthave fear ward??? |
| 13:29.37 | Lothaer | well amt they dont lol |
| 13:29.45 | Lothaer | meh my spelling i know i know lol |
| 13:29.45 | kenlyric | that's fine. NE still has nothing going for it for raiding. |
| 13:29.46 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 13:29.56 | Lothaer | please explain |
| 13:29.56 | Hjalte | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 13:29.58 | purl | cncfanatics <i=evolve@248.175-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 16h 33s ago, saying: 'g'night ppl'. |
| 13:29.58 | Ellipsis | [6:27:39 am] <kenlyric> i'd play the male, but the only males on the alliance are night elves and meh to them for raiding priests. |
| 13:30.16 | Ellipsis | kenlyric - are you gay, or just blind? :P |
| 13:30.22 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: sorry, I meant males who didn't assault the eyes. |
| 13:30.28 | Ellipsis | lawl |
| 13:30.38 | Lothaer | lol |
| 13:30.55 | Lothaer | more likely a male BElf |
| 13:30.56 | neenee | At least my Dwarf isn't a lanky twig |
| 13:31.00 | Lothaer | fucking pnsies |
| 13:31.11 | Ellipsis | Lothaer, I really suggest you watch the language |
| 13:31.13 | Lothaer | yeah hes short and fat and smells |
| 13:31.17 | Lothaer | my bad |
| 13:31.19 | neenee | And he can drink any Elf under the table |
| 13:31.20 | Codayus | I think nelf males are hideous. |
| 13:31.23 | SunTsu | .o0( Dwarf is the only race with only males, right? *ducks and runs away* ) |
| 13:31.26 | Codayus | Male humans can be okay. |
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| 13:31.39 | baer_ | 'lo. |
| 13:31.46 | neenee | I like my female dwarf. |
| 13:31.47 | Lothaer | OOOO i get it neenee u chose a dwarf because you wanted a character just like you |
| 13:31.52 | Codayus | And we have a couple dwarf female priests in guild. |
| 13:31.54 | Ellipsis | all my characters are female...it's never even really crossed my mind to create a male o.O |
| 13:31.59 | Lothaer | short, fat, smelly and bad tempered |
| 13:32.02 | Codayus | I don't think I've seen a non-priest dwarf female. |
| 13:32.05 | kenlyric | Codayus: actually, my opinion has changed somewhat since I rolled my human priest. the bald black human male is acceptable. |
| 13:32.06 | baer_ | Lothaer: right. |
| 13:32.20 | kenlyric | I rolled a female dwarf rogue so one would exist. |
| 13:32.21 | Lothaer | for 1 reason |
| 13:32.24 | Lothaer | 12" |
| 13:32.26 | Lothaer | lol |
| 13:32.32 | Codayus | kenlyric: Whatever floats your boat... |
| 13:32.39 | kenlyric | but, back to raiding, yeah, night elves bring nothing to raiding. |
| 13:32.41 | evl | NE has the best PVP racial ever: "Quickness: Chance to get Overpowered increased by 1%" |
| 13:32.45 | neenee | Lothaer, Yup. My beard is my pride and joy. I comb and de-louse it daily. And if I'm peckish, a snack is just a grope away. That's me. |
| 13:32.50 | Lothaer | what makes u say that? |
| 13:32.59 | kenlyric | I chose mine for wisp form and shadowmeld, but I didn't know any better. |
| 13:33.06 | Lothaer | neenee thats soo wrong |
| 13:33.13 | Lothaer | do u condition ur beard aswell? |
| 13:33.15 | Codayus | kenlyric: The new nelf priest racials are nice for pvp... |
| 13:33.21 | kenlyric | for pvp, sure. |
| 13:33.22 | Ellipsis | no, see, neenee is just so right.... |
| 13:33.30 | kenlyric | shadowmeld has always been practical for BGs. |
| 13:33.37 | Codayus | But it's hard to pass up humans for pve racials. |
| 13:33.44 | Ellipsis | ick |
| 13:33.50 | Ellipsis | I could do without my human racials |
| 13:33.57 | Ellipsis | other than the rep one...that's nice |
| 13:34.02 | Codayus | Diplomacy alone is scary good. And the spirit bonus is very powerful if your holy. |
| 13:34.11 | kenlyric | if you're purely looking at raiding, dwarves, draenei and humans are the only alliance choices. And I'd say dwarves just lost that in 2.3 |
| 13:34.17 | Codayus | Yes |
| 13:34.22 | Lothaer | lol |
| 13:34.25 | Codayus | Incapacitate is not going to be worth much in pve... |
| 13:34.42 | neenee | But I'm not a cat and I'm taken already, so no licking. Feel free to lick others here though. |
| 13:34.45 | Lothaer | is it just me or is Blizzard swinging more to PvP? |
| 13:34.48 | kenlyric | medition buff gives me about 7mp5 just from my human racial alone :) |
| 13:34.51 | Ellipsis | neenee :( |
| 13:34.57 | Codayus | So basically it's humans (spirit, self heal, diplomacy) or draenei (mana regen, self heal, hit aura) |
| 13:34.59 | Ellipsis | mah heart, it is broken! |
| 13:35.14 | Ellipsis | self heal? |
| 13:35.16 | neenee | A gnome can help there |
| 13:35.21 | neenee | They'll make it better, stronger! |
| 13:35.25 | Ellipsis | humans have self heal now?! |
| 13:35.27 | neenee | And more explosive ;) |
| 13:35.29 | kenlyric | draenei is so much better than all the others, but I didn't want to wait for TBC when I rerolled, wanted to be 60 to level with my guild. |
| 13:35.31 | Lothaer | they always have |
| 13:35.38 | Codayus | Ellipsis: They always have - the same free instant one dwarves get. |
| 13:35.40 | SunTsu | gnome rogues are great. You can hardly see them when they are visble |
| 13:35.40 | Lothaer | Desperate Prayer |
| 13:35.41 | neenee | Oh |
| 13:35.42 | neenee | That |
| 13:35.45 | Ellipsis | oh, you mean priests |
| 13:35.47 | neenee | I thought that was for Dwarves |
| 13:35.48 | kenlyric | healstone v2.0 |
| 13:35.54 | neenee | Hm. |
| 13:35.56 | Codayus | Very powerful; a free health pot on a seperate timer... |
| 13:36.05 | Ellipsis | yeah, I don't play a priest |
| 13:36.06 | Codayus | Ellipsis: Pft, like there's other classes. |
| 13:36.10 | kenlyric | works even if you have full health :( |
| 13:36.16 | Ellipsis | I shoulda been a gnome =[ |
| 13:36.19 | kenlyric | as I learned that time i resisted aran's fireblast. |
| 13:36.26 | Codayus | I'm human, but annoyingly, I'm shadow. |
| 13:36.29 | Ellipsis | fail kenlyric :P |
| 13:36.29 | Codayus | Which devalues my racials. |
| 13:36.51 | Ellipsis | as a warlock, there is not a single useful human combat racial |
| 13:36.56 | kenlyric | I thought I was lagged because the healthstone wasn't being consumed. |
| 13:36.57 | Codayus | Desperate Prayer doesn't work in shadow form. Spirit isn't useful as shadow. And diplomacy...well, okay, it still rocks. |
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| 13:37.03 | Ellipsis | weapons? spirit? screw that |
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| 13:37.09 | kenlyric | Codayus: I said raiding priest. |
| 13:37.14 | kenlyric | you're talking about raiding shadow priest |
| 13:37.21 | kenlyric | 10th class, imho |
| 13:37.28 | Codayus | I know... |
| 13:37.50 | Codayus | I respecced shadow for the "good of the guild" because we had too many holy, not enough shadow, and since I was the priest officer... |
| 13:37.56 | Codayus | It's...fun. But I miss healing. |
| 13:37.58 | Lothaer | PFT |
| 13:38.05 | Lothaer | on spinebreaker almost all priest are shadow |
| 13:38.15 | Lothaer | holy priests are a dime a dozen |
| 13:38.21 | Codayus | And now we've got too many shadow and not enough healers. But since i've blown 5k gold on Crusade, FSW, Spellstrike, etc... |
| 13:38.38 | Codayus | I don't want to respec and write that off. Blah. |
| 13:39.08 | SunTsu | So are on EU/Nozdormu - we recently got 5 new priests into our guild. All shadow |
| 13:39.13 | Codayus | I think for 3.0 I'll go healling again, unless the new trees suck. |
| 13:39.17 | Lothaer | it really pisses me off that Paladin, Shamans and Druids can out heal a prest, arent Priest supposed to be the most powerful healing class??? |
| 13:39.37 | evl | will change in 2.3 |
| 13:39.38 | evl | no doubt. |
| 13:39.44 | Lothaer | how? |
| 13:39.48 | kenlyric | Lothaer: this outhealing myth is a lie. |
| 13:39.52 | evl | pain supression |
| 13:39.57 | kenlyric | priests just have to work harder. |
| 13:39.58 | cryogen | out healing is subjective |
| 13:40.01 | evl | more coefficient bonuses |
| 13:40.06 | cryogen | and situation dependant |
| 13:40.10 | kenlyric | how will pain supression improve healing evl? |
| 13:40.10 | evl | priests have much better oh-shit skills |
| 13:40.12 | Lothaer | seriously though mate |
| 13:40.21 | evl | kenlyric: by requiring... less... healing? |
| 13:40.30 | Lothaer | in a kara raid we take 1 Resto Druid 1 Holy Paladin and a Holy Priest (me) |
| 13:40.33 | cryogen | shamans druids and paladins are great as specific tasks |
| 13:40.36 | kenlyric | but it won't help *that* healer :) |
| 13:40.40 | cryogen | priests can do everything reasonaby well |
| 13:40.41 | Codayus | In 2.3, shamans will beat everyone. |
| 13:40.44 | evl | arguably Shamans > * for raid healing now a day |
| 13:40.49 | evl | chain heal is just too powerful |
| 13:40.50 | Codayus | Paladins are being nerfed down to priest levles fast. |
| 13:40.50 | Lothaer | every time the healing chart is 1 Paladin 2 Druid 3 Priest |
| 13:41.02 | Codayus | Trees are...very solid, but not very versatile. |
| 13:41.21 | Lothaer | they should make the tier sets like they were pre BC 1 8 piece set per class |
| 13:41.26 | Pkekyo | ....and so Blizzard killed pve warriors for good... |
| 13:41.28 | Lothaer | more balance |
| 13:41.32 | kenlyric | I don't know many people who still think pallies make better healers than priests. |
| 13:41.34 | Codayus | If it's a problem that can be solved by Lifebloom spam and tossing some random hots aroun, you'll own. |
| 13:41.37 | kenlyric | they're not versatile enough. |
| 13:41.39 | Lothaer | a PvE Warrior is a Tank' |
| 13:41.45 | kenlyric | what they *bring* is multiple raid buffs. |
| 13:41.50 | Codayus | Pkekyo: Uh...how so? |
| 13:41.53 | Ellipsis | Lothaer, wtf? |
| 13:41.57 | Lothaer | kenlyric thats because htye are |
| 13:42.04 | Lothaer | they last a lot longer |
| 13:42.13 | Pkekyo | Codayus: seen PTR patch notes? |
| 13:42.20 | Ellipsis | so in your world, off-specs aren't viable? |
| 13:42.26 | Codayus | Pkekyo: There are other changes. |
| 13:42.29 | evl | fury can never be more than a half assed DPS class, they have no agro dump |
| 13:42.30 | Codayus | Don't commit suicide yet. |
| 13:42.46 | Codayus | For example, the new weapon expertise isn't live on the pTR yet. |
| 13:42.52 | Pkekyo | Codayus: well, moving sweeping strikes to deep fury in exchange for death wish is a fucking steal |
| 13:42.56 | Lothaer | i believe each class plays a role and allowing every1 to go what ever spec they want complicates things |
| 13:42.57 | kenlyric | pallies - single target, shammies - raid, druids - hots. priests, all three. |
| 13:43.06 | Ellipsis | wow |
| 13:43.06 | Codayus | Pkekyo: It's a nerf, but not a huge one. And there are other larger buffs. |
| 13:43.07 | sb | kenlyric: ack! |
| 13:43.11 | nevcairiel | the PTR is basicly bugged right now, they mis-merged some branches there, or so |
| 13:43.13 | Ellipsis | Lothaer: how old are you? |
| 13:43.18 | kenlyric | but blizzard sucks at designing stuff for people who can do more than one thing. |
| 13:43.19 | Lothaer | 22 |
| 13:43.28 | Ellipsis | no, but really. how old? |
| 13:43.35 | neenee | Hm. I am glad I can play however I want. |
| 13:43.37 | Pkekyo | Codayus: death wish is a huge dps buff every other minute...sweeping strike is fucking useless on bosses...I'd call nerf |
| 13:43.37 | Lothaer | haha very fuuny |
| 13:43.39 | Lothaer | im 22 |
| 13:43.47 | Ellipsis | oh... |
| 13:43.54 | Ellipsis | I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were "special" |
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| 13:43.58 | sb | well warrior MS = pvp, fury 2h = pvp (or mixed ;p), fury (DW) = pve :o |
| 13:43.59 | Codayus | Pkekyo: As I said, it's a nerf. But it's not huge; death wish is not a HUGE buff. It's not even usable on all fights. |
| 13:44.00 | Pkekyo | after three fucking years they finally decide to change the playstyle of the entire warrior class? lovely... |
| 13:44.15 | Codayus | And whirlwind, weapon expertise, and imp berseker stance are big buffs. |
| 13:44.28 | sb | "(ie: we're still considering the mortal strike effect for aimed shot for hunters, among other possibilities)." <-- noes |
| 13:44.33 | sb | nerf hunter :/ |
| 13:44.42 | Lothaer | i also believe that each armor type should be locked to 1 armor ie Warriors Paladins Plate only (at 40) Hunter Shaman mail ONLY (At 40) Druid Rogue Leather ONLY |
| 13:44.42 | kenlyric | pkekyo: welcome to priest pain? |
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| 13:44.49 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: err? |
| 13:45.00 | kenlyric | >after three fucking years they finally decide to change the playstyle of the entire warrior class? lovely... |
| 13:45.07 | nevcairiel | i basicly refuse to wear cloth with my druid |
| 13:45.12 | nevcairiel | except for style outfits :) |
| 13:45.13 | Ellipsis | Lothaer: and I suppose jewelry, cloaks, etc. should then be armor typed? |
| 13:45.15 | Pkekyo | how'd they fatally change priest playstyle? |
| 13:45.21 | Lothaer | fucking hate having to compete with paladins/druid/shamans for cloth healing gear |
| 13:45.28 | Ellipsis | healers deserve healing gear |
| 13:45.32 | Ellipsis | end of freaking discussion |
| 13:45.34 | Lothaer | Ellipsis u know what i mean |
| 13:45.34 | kenlyric | pkekyo turned us into raid healers and utility buffers and shadow priests. |
| 13:45.52 | Lothaer | well then Priest should have preference on Cloth Healing |
| 13:45.55 | nevcairiel | in our raid basicly only priests care to get cloth gear |
| 13:46.03 | nevcairiel | guess we're special :OP |
| 13:46.09 | Pkekyo | and up until a few months ago priests weren't raid healers or buffers, or even shadowpriests? |
| 13:46.09 | Lothaer | if they dont want it then the other classes may take it |
| 13:46.19 | kenlyric | I've never had a druid try to take cloth gear, but they will if it's an ug and not needed. |
| 13:46.25 | kenlyric | same for shammies and pallies. |
| 13:46.28 | Ellipsis | if a druid or pally wants to give up the armor points to take a piece of cloth, let them |
| 13:46.33 | Codayus | The new weapon expertise is a flat -4% dodge chance, btw. |
| 13:46.41 | kenlyric | our first three healing drops in karazhan were shammy healing bracers? off of maiden |
| 13:46.46 | kenlyric | went to pallies |
| 13:46.47 | Lothaer | not if its a upgrade for the priest |
| 13:47.02 | xyu | i wore some mail pieces |
| 13:47.03 | Ellipsis | if it's an upgrade for both, both should roll imo |
| 13:47.05 | xyu | for a while |
| 13:47.07 | nevcairiel | did you have healing shammys in said raid ? :P |
| 13:47.07 | xyu | belt of gale force |
| 13:47.11 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: fine |
| 13:47.16 | Lothaer | if its a item that the priest really needs then they should have preferencse and f*** all other classes |
| 13:47.17 | kenlyric | as long as I can roll on the plate |
| 13:47.19 | neenee | If they both mainly heal, it's fair game for both I think. |
| 13:47.20 | Megalon | Codayus: you mean weapon mastery? ;) |
| 13:47.20 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: and up until a few months ago priests weren't raid healers or buffers, or even shadowpriests? |
| 13:47.29 | Codayus | Yes |
| 13:47.29 | kenlyric | pkekyo: nope |
| 13:47.32 | Codayus | Whatever. |
| 13:47.43 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: what the flying fuck was priests doing in the game then? |
| 13:47.45 | kenlyric | shadowpriests in naxx teehee |
| 13:47.51 | nevcairiel | anyway, i wish i could wear some mail pieces |
| 13:47.52 | Codayus | Pkekyo: Yeah, the priest class was very different pre-TBC |
| 13:47.56 | kenlyric | tank healers. |
| 13:47.58 | Ellipsis | some of the best healing gear is cloth |
| 13:48.02 | nevcairiel | so fucking awesome stats .. and i sit there with my leather .. :P |
| 13:48.02 | Grum | cloth restricted people should have preference over cloth items |
| 13:48.04 | Ellipsis | like, no leather+ equivalents |
| 13:48.07 | cryogen | kenlyric: loathen ftw! |
| 13:48.11 | cryogen | theb* |
| 13:48.14 | kenlyric | pallies/shammies were for raid healing, of course |
| 13:48.15 | Grum | Ellipsis: that is hardly true |
| 13:48.23 | Lothaer | suptracting survivability for a few extra pieces of healing is stupid imo |
| 13:48.33 | Megalon | like, no leather +dmggear |
| 13:48.40 | Ellipsis | survivability? |
| 13:48.41 | Megalon | for 2 years? |
| 13:48.42 | Megalon | :c |
| 13:48.43 | Ellipsis | you're a healer, not a tank |
| 13:48.44 | Pkekyo | http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/282/6/8/68e7f97a75a3a005.png <--- anyone got an idea how this was made? |
| 13:48.49 | Ellipsis | if you're getting hit you're dead anyway |
| 13:48.51 | Grum | using pixels! |
| 13:48.52 | kenlyric | Lothaer: if you need armor survivability in raids,s omething's wrong. |
| 13:49.01 | Lothaer | what armor |
| 13:49.06 | Lothaer | as a priest ther eis no armor |
| 13:49.11 | Lothaer | not even with inner fire |
| 13:49.16 | Lothaer | still 1 shot ur dead |
| 13:49.18 | kenlyric | <Lothaer>suptracting survivability for a few extra pieces of healing is stupid imo |
| 13:49.21 | Pkekyo | Grum: how clever |
| 13:49.22 | Lothaer | i try to keep in the back of the raid |
| 13:49.27 | Grum | Lothaer: paladins arent dead in 1 shot |
| 13:49.29 | cryogen | paladins (originally) need plate to keep judgements up |
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| 13:49.34 | cryogen | needed* |
| 13:49.35 | Lothaer | because of their armor |
| 13:49.40 | kenlyric | it's not dumb at all for other classes to take lesser armor for better healing gear. |
| 13:49.48 | Grum | its not kenlyric |
| 13:50.01 | kenlyric | but I'd stab them if I wanted it :) |
| 13:50.13 | Grum | but what i'd like to see is healing cloth with plate armor values or better healing cloth to make up for the squishiness |
| 13:50.14 | Ellipsis | as a tree druid I went for cloth if it was an upgrade |
| 13:50.14 | Lothaer | priest SHOULDNT have to fight the other classes for they only type of armor they can wear |
| 13:50.21 | SunTsu | We even have paladins who wear leather because it has better stats than their original gear |
| 13:50.28 | Lothaer | Paladins have a choise of 4 types Priest only 1 |
| 13:50.36 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: fine, as long as I can roll on the leather. |
| 13:50.39 | Ellipsis | Lothaer: and you're trying to rob them of the choice given to them by Blizz |
| 13:50.40 | kenlyric | it's only FAIR |
| 13:50.44 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: sure |
| 13:50.47 | Ellipsis | leather sucks anyway |
| 13:51.16 | Codayus | Pkekyo: BTW, the change to whirlwind ALONE is ~ equal to the Death Wish removal for most warriors. If you treat deathwish as a flat 3.33% increase (which it is in the long run), and you're doing 1k DPS, that's +33 DKPS... |
| 13:51.31 | Grum | and seriously, why is the itemization in such a way that around t5 every single drop that is non-cloth has better healing stats than any cloth equivalent |
| 13:51.34 | Grum | it's just not funny anymore |
| 13:51.44 | Lothaer | not trying to rob them of anything, just trying to let priests get geared aswell |
| 13:51.51 | kenlyric | Grum: because cloth gear favors spirit. |
| 13:51.53 | cryogen | what did they change about warriors anyway? |
| 13:51.54 | Codayus | Tests on PTR show WW changes add ~50 DPS. Highly dependent on weapons, gear, fight, encounter, blah blah blah. |
| 13:52.05 | Grum | kenlyric: it's a 50/50 on spi/mp5 actually |
| 13:52.12 | Grum | especially with t5 |
| 13:52.28 | Grum | most leather has spi and most mail has mp5 |
| 13:52.36 | Ellipsis | WTB more spi on leather, srsly |
| 13:52.40 | Grum | which is stupid because leather should have mp5 o.O |
| 13:52.53 | nevcairiel | spi sucks for druids tbh |
| 13:52.53 | Lothaer | spi benfits tree druid more |
| 13:52.55 | nevcairiel | wtb more mp5 |
| 13:53.01 | Lothaer | well benefits other more actually |
| 13:53.04 | sb | same here nev ;p |
| 13:53.08 | Grum | spi sucks for classes that spend 80+% in FSR |
| 13:53.12 | cryogen | isnt spirit better in 2.3? |
| 13:53.14 | Awaa | where do one buy arena stuff for honor on ptr ? |
| 13:53.14 | Grum | which a good druid does easily |
| 13:53.18 | cryogen | with the +mp5 talents being 30% now |
| 13:53.26 | Grum | but that is only for priests |
| 13:53.26 | kenlyric | those are +spirit talents |
| 13:53.30 | nevcairiel | a good druid keeps spamming hots |
| 13:53.34 | Grum | yup |
| 13:53.38 | Grum | and thus is always within FSR |
| 13:53.46 | Grum | and thus mp5 is better |
| 13:53.47 | sb | good priest keeps spamming FH :p |
| 13:53.47 | Lothaer | Grum, its for all classes with mp5 bonus |
| 13:53.51 | sb | so you need mp5 ;) |
| 13:53.54 | kenlyric | meditation gets no benefit at all from mp5. Spirit whores of the world, UNITE |
| 13:54.07 | sylvanaar | druids have innervate |
| 13:54.11 | Grum | Lothaer: how do you mean? |
| 13:54.15 | cryogen | kenlyric: i meant it *gives* you mp5 |
| 13:54.17 | kenlyric | druids r bare |
| 13:54.18 | cryogen | not it increasea it :p |
| 13:54.18 | Ellipsis | spirit whoring ftw |
| 13:54.24 | Lothaer | brb grum |
| 13:54.28 | sb | lurker priest trinket ftw :p |
| 13:54.36 | Codayus | Actually, druids can drop out of the FSR while rolling lifeblooms. |
| 13:54.36 | Grum | sb: definately .. earring ftw |
| 13:54.37 | sb | its sooo <3 with innervate |
| 13:54.51 | Grum | Codayus: not if you roll it on 4 targets |
| 13:54.53 | Lothaer | druid Intensity (Restoration) increased to 10/20/30% mana regeneration. |
| 13:54.56 | Codayus | So their average FSR time isn't far off priests. |
| 13:55.05 | Lothaer | mage # Arcane Meditation (Arcane) increased to 10/20/30% mana regeneration. |
| 13:55.06 | Codayus | Grum: True! But many fights do not benefit from that. |
| 13:55.15 | Ellipsis | if played right, a druid can be out of FSR more than a priest when solo-healing |
| 13:55.22 | Grum | but you should always have enough targets to keep hotting up |
| 13:55.22 | Lothaer | priest # Meditation (Discipline) increased to 10/20/30% mana regeneration. |
| 13:55.23 | kenlyric | Codayus: what would you call a good average? |
| 13:55.28 | Grum | if you have 1 tank - you hot up 3 warlocks |
| 13:55.34 | Codayus | kenlyric: Unfortunatly, I have no idea. :-( |
| 13:55.41 | cryogen | stop distracting me with theorycraft |
| 13:55.45 | cryogen | its interesting, but i have to work damnit |
| 13:55.48 | Grum | Lothaer: so that means a 15->30% increase |
| 13:55.50 | kenlyric | with the old mediation, blizzard figured 60% :) |
| 13:55.58 | Grum | and with pmooncloth: 35% |
| 13:56.10 | Codayus | My priest tends to run in the 70% ish range, but that's mostly because pre 2.3 mp5 is so good I stacked it, an d basically just ignored the FSR. |
| 13:56.12 | nevcairiel | pmooncloth sucks in endgame |
| 13:56.16 | Grum | man i gotto transfer my char to the PTs |
| 13:56.19 | kenlyric | primal mooncloth loses some of its relative awesomeness with 2.3 |
| 13:56.25 | Grum | yeah |
| 13:56.29 | Grum | it gets nerfed badly |
| 13:56.32 | Grum | well |
| 13:56.32 | Codayus | Heh |
| 13:56.35 | Grum | actually .. not really |
| 13:56.41 | Codayus | Relative to other options.. |
| 13:56.53 | Grum | because people will start stacking spi and thus 5% will just become more and more |
| 13:56.53 | cryogen | the new token leather stuff looks <3 |
| 13:56.55 | nevcairiel | the no-sta on pmooncloth just sucks in black temple and hyjal, all those fights where you need 9k+ health |
| 13:57.08 | cryogen | s/token/badges/ |
| 13:57.12 | Grum | nevcairiel: yeah but i get 9k hp without problems while wearing pmc |
| 13:57.15 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: well, I wouldn't call pmc t6 level gear anyway. |
| 13:57.17 | Codayus | nevcairiel: Well, yeah. But honestly, it says something that people might even THINK of wearing pre-raid epics to T6. |
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| 13:57.31 | nevcairiel | people are stupid.. :) |
| 13:57.41 | kenlyric | I have my netherwing trinket for aran :) |
| 13:57.48 | Lothaer | who here thinks they'll ever see t6 before WotLK? |
| 13:57.56 | Grum | i hope so |
| 13:57.56 | Codayus | Me? |
| 13:58.00 | kenlyric | Lothaer: sure I will |
| 13:58.00 | Lothaer | i wont |
| 13:58.01 | nevcairiel | does already having seen count? |
| 13:58.01 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:58.03 | kenlyric | season 3 arena :) |
| 13:58.05 | Codayus | The way they're changing things, it seems clear they WANT people to. |
| 13:58.07 | Grum | but we're deadstuck @ Vashj/Kael'thas atm |
| 13:58.18 | Lothaer | season 3 isnt T6 just looks like it |
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| 13:58.23 | kenlyric | exactly |
| 13:58.26 | Grum | i think the T5 items in general are just sucky |
| 13:58.28 | Lothaer | but really Blizzard need to be a bit more creative huh |
| 13:58.29 | nevcairiel | we killed archimonde already, which means gloves and head thingys for us :) |
| 13:58.40 | kenlyric | have they recolored t2 yet? |
| 13:58.46 | Codayus | My guild is um... 1/6 SSC, and 2/4 TK. We're casual as hell. But between ZA gear, new badge gear, and the nerfs and buffs I'm sure are to come in future patches, I bet we'll see T6. |
| 13:58.47 | Grum | we actually diss more than half the loot we get in ssc/tk |
| 13:58.48 | Lothaer | this copy paste crap on gear is stupid |
| 13:58.50 | kenlyric | I figure recolored t3 will be naxx2.0 |
| 13:58.59 | Codayus | kenlyric: I hope so. |
| 13:59.00 | kenlyric | Grum: invite kthx |
| 13:59.05 | Codayus | I *WANT* recolored t3! |
| 13:59.09 | Grum | and we arent that good |
| 13:59.14 | Lothaer | i wonder.... |
| 13:59.16 | Grum | we just had 3/4TK 5/6SSC |
| 13:59.20 | Grum | the gear in there is just crap |
| 13:59.31 | Codayus | (Frankly, who here expects the attunements for T6 to be lifted in a patch or three?) |
| 13:59.33 | Grum | but bad part is - Zul'Aman will actually have i141 items |
| 13:59.36 | Lothaer | ... when Naxx moves to Northrend will it still be T3? or will blizzard call it T7? |
| 13:59.49 | kenlyric | blizzard doesn't call it Tanyting |
| 13:59.56 | Grum | so we'll be farming that for some weeks and suddenly diss *ALL* gear in SSC/TK and hopefully get past Vashj/Kael'thas |
| 14:00.01 | nevcairiel | actually, they do call it Tier X gear |
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| 14:00.09 | Codayus | They do, on the website... |
| 14:00.11 | cryogen | they do indeed |
| 14:00.12 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: I've never seen any such notation in the game. |
| 14:00.21 | nevcairiel | not in the game no |
| 14:00.24 | nevcairiel | but on the website |
| 14:00.25 | Codayus | They have a mini-site with all the DS and tier armor. |
| 14:00.25 | kenlyric | bah, website! |
| 14:00.26 | Grum | on the site |
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| 14:00.44 | kenlyric | no, naxx will 2.0 will be t8, of course. |
| 14:00.48 | Grum | nevcairiel: if you compare the new items from 2.3 (even badges) - it seems almost not needed to go into BT/MH |
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| 14:01.03 | nevcairiel | if you raid for items only |
| 14:01.09 | Grum | i raid for killing bosses |
| 14:01.10 | nevcairiel | you should stop playing anyway |
| 14:01.14 | vhaarr_ | <kenlyric> blizzard doesn't call it Tanyting |
| 14:01.16 | vhaarr_ | kenlyric: sure they do |
| 14:01.19 | kenlyric | Grum: I believe blizzard envisions a world where 10 man and 25 man are two different things. and guilds won't want both. |
| 14:01.19 | vhaarr_ | <kenlyric> blizzard doesn't call it Tanyting |
| 14:01.21 | vhaarr_ | grr |
| 14:01.23 | vhaarr_ | http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/items/armorsets/ |
| 14:01.32 | Grum | kenlyric: doing 10m instances is horrible |
| 14:01.36 | kenlyric | vhaarr, yeah, we settled that question three minutes ago. |
| 14:01.41 | nevcairiel | i havent seen an item from ZA that would replace MH/BT gear |
| 14:01.44 | vhaarr_ | kenlyric: impossible |
| 14:01.44 | Grum | the organization for those is just completely crap |
| 14:01.48 | nevcairiel | they do add-up tho |
| 14:01.49 | kenlyric | Grum: but, they failed forcing 25 man raids through karazhan. |
| 14:01.54 | Grum | nevcairiel: but it would replace *any* t5 item |
| 14:01.55 | Lothaer | in the MPQ files there called raidwarlock_f etc |
| 14:01.56 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 14:01.58 | vhaarr_ | kenlyric: you said that at 15:59, it's 16:01 now, and I was disconnected at 16:00 |
| 14:02.10 | vhaarr_ | kenlyric: so since it's less than 3 minutes since you made that claim, it's not possible |
| 14:02.27 | nevcairiel | vhaarr_: your time stops when you disconnect. |
| 14:02.29 | kenlyric | vhaarr_: time loop |
| 14:02.32 | vhaarr_ | nevcairiel: ah |
| 14:02.33 | vhaarr_ | okay then |
| 14:02.42 | kenlyric | I slungshot around the sun. |
| 14:02.55 | Grum | which sun? http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/282/6/8/68e7f97a75a3a005.png <-- that one? |
| 14:02.59 | Ellipsis | is that really the past tense of slingshot? |
| 14:03.03 | kenlyric | no |
| 14:03.09 | kenlyric | but I vastly prefer it. |
| 14:03.41 | kenlyric | I don't get why people are so fascinated with a photoshop of ice armor. |
| 14:03.55 | kenlyric | zomg smear! |
| 14:04.01 | nevcairiel | Grum: maybe i missed some items, but it looks like it only replaces t4/kara, and maybe _some_ ssc/tk items. like the new heroic leather healing girdle is > * .. but hey.. :) |
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| 14:04.26 | Grum | nevcairiel: generally i find t5 really bad for priests |
| 14:04.32 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 14:04.35 | nevcairiel | i am a druid :P |
| 14:04.46 | Grum | if you check t5 for warriors its actually a downgrade on some of the t4vst5 items O.o |
| 14:04.47 | kenlyric | i like t6 |
| 14:04.49 | kenlyric | with the crit. |
| 14:04.49 | MoonWolf | nevcairiel, what type ? |
| 14:04.56 | nevcairiel | resto |
| 14:04.57 | Grum | for some reason they love 'blocking' |
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| 14:10.40 | Elkano | Grum, for me as tank feral I don't love T5 that much, too :/ |
| 14:11.15 | Grum | i think they might have made the itemlevels for Zul'Aman a bit too high |
| 14:11.17 | Elkano | especialy as soon as I get my 4/5 bonus from T4 |
| 14:11.33 | MoonWolf | Grum, no such thing |
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| 14:12.00 | Grum | i just think it should be on par with t5 .. not above |
| 14:12.29 | kenlyric | i had believed from the difficulty that ZA would be t5 equiv. |
| 14:12.37 | Grum | or .. mmm it might also give incentive to go to zul'aman and help to get vashj/kaelthas down easier so you can go to t6 |
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| 14:12.49 | kenlyric | but the haste stat on gear makes me think they leaned towards t6 instead. |
| 14:12.51 | Grum | from what i hear is that the bosses are piss-easy to kill |
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| 14:13.20 | Grum | and for some reason i am not completely sure that making the instance a timed instance is the best thing to do |
| 14:13.39 | Grum | what if someone disconnects? and you fuck up loot because of that? seems to me as a source of possible frustration |
| 14:14.06 | Grum | but then again we also manage to clear kara with people not always there in 2h215m orso |
| 14:14.09 | Grum | 2.15 |
| 14:14.35 | kenlyric | Grum: you don't have to run it timed, of course. |
| 14:14.47 | Grum | you do if you want loot |
| 14:14.56 | Grum | so there will be time-pressure .. |
| 14:15.03 | kenlyric | well, if you want the awesome loot. |
| 14:15.07 | kenlyric | so, I think that's a good thing. |
| 14:15.23 | kenlyric | so you get completely different loot when it's not timed? |
| 14:15.30 | Grum | dunno |
| 14:15.32 | Grum | i think that is the case |
| 14:15.33 | kenlyric | maybe that's the t5 stuff :) |
| 14:15.37 | Grum | or maybe you get 1 item extra |
| 14:16.03 | Grum | i do have to say that doing speedruns without a time-pressure is fun |
| 14:16.16 | xyu | i love speed runs |
| 14:16.20 | Grum | and they saying it should be doable in 2hrs makes it *really* farmable |
| 14:16.33 | Grum | so you can actually do kara and zulaman on 1 night |
| 14:16.36 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r52137 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Possible group debuff fix |
| 14:16.44 | Grum | get 17 badges and shitloads of loot |
| 14:18.26 | Elkano | Grum, and if they say it can be done in 2h it could be done in 1:30 or faster most likely |
| 14:18.33 | Grum | yeah |
| 14:18.46 | Grum | dunno what timetables they said on Kara |
| 14:18.56 | Grum | we do altruns in ~4.5hrs orso |
| 14:19.50 | Elkano | all bosses? |
| 14:20.10 | vhaarr | we do it in 4 hours easily, but we skip netherspite on alt runs |
| 14:20.35 | vhaarr | which makes it a bit faster I guess |
| 14:20.37 | xyu | we always skip netherspite :( |
| 14:20.37 | nevcairiel | our best kara was like 3 hours, all bosses except that random spawn in the cellar |
| 14:20.46 | xyu | why are you forsaken netherspite!!! |
| 14:20.49 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I forgot that one even existed |
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| 14:20.52 | vhaarr | :P |
| 14:20.59 | vhaarr | ah, right |
| 14:21.02 | nevcairiel | yeah, we did him once, an d never again :P |
| 14:21.03 | kadrahil | so i just realized i had a Depleted Sword |
| 14:21.05 | vhaarr | they're making it easier to spawn in 2.3? |
| 14:21.05 | kadrahil | in my bags |
| 14:21.07 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yeah same |
| 14:21.13 | xyu | we got "of the whale" lol |
| 14:21.16 | xyu | so we are like screw this boss |
| 14:21.20 | kadrahil | should i sell that, or combine it with the shards and sell the crystalforged sword? |
| 14:22.26 | kadrahil | is a depleted sword even worth the 460g it shows on wowhead? |
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| 14:23.07 | Grum | Elkano: yeah all bosses |
| 14:23.15 | Grum | we've done some speedruns which ended in just over 2hrs |
| 14:23.51 | Grum | about 5 minutes per boss and 10 on trash on average |
| 14:24.05 | Grum | bit lower even |
| 14:24.27 | Elkano | cool... |
| 14:24.36 | QuantumDelta | Kara? :P |
| 14:25.05 | Elkano | we normaly do runs from 19:30-23:00 and end at Shade or Prince :/ |
| 14:25.13 | QuantumDelta | ah |
| 14:25.34 | Elkano | btw: it seems like my name abbriviation code for EBB is working now :) |
| 14:26.31 | xyu | What's a hunters hit rating cap on bosses? |
| 14:26.37 | xyu | vs bosses |
| 14:26.54 | Xinhuan | yep AZGALOR DOWN! |
| 14:27.00 | Xinhuan | time to work on archimonde |
| 14:27.05 | nevcairiel | hf with that.. :) |
| 14:27.07 | Shinja | gg Xinhuan |
| 14:27.19 | Xinhuan | he just fingered of death the whole zone to death |
| 14:27.20 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 14:27.26 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 14:27.33 | Shinja | Doomfire is pain in the ass :/ |
| 14:27.34 | nevcairiel | dont get him too close to the tree |
| 14:27.38 | nevcairiel | well .. or that happens :D |
| 14:27.47 | Xinhuan | well someone decided to slowfall down or something... |
| 14:27.54 | xyu | ir eally hope i get to see archimonde soon |
| 14:27.56 | xyu | he's my fav char |
| 14:27.59 | Xinhuan | instead of running down the path |
| 14:28.19 | Shinja | same thing for our first azgalor kill... |
| 14:28.41 | Shinja | looting wasn't finished. |
| 14:29.02 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 14:29.19 | Xinhuan | i wish the boss takes slightly more time to come on the last wave though |
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| 14:29.27 | Xinhuan | you barely have time to assign loot from the trash on the 8th wave |
| 14:29.34 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:29.42 | Shinja | Xinhuan: no wave for Archimonde |
| 14:29.46 | nevcairiel | get rogues distract azgalor |
| 14:29.49 | nevcairiel | we do it all the time |
| 14:29.56 | Shinja | I do it also |
| 14:30.07 | nevcairiel | with 3 rogues you can keep him in place |
| 14:30.10 | Shinja | Xinhuan, I've posted my rogue naked stats from PTr |
| 14:30.12 | Xinhuan | only got 2 rogue :( |
| 14:30.19 | Xinhuan | hey cool |
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| 14:31.33 | Grum | mm the order was (just ripped it from the stats): 2h25m: T10-B(attumen)3-T9-B(moroes)7-T10-B(maiden)2-T8-B(opera)4-T6-B(nightbane)7-T11-B(curator)2-T21-B(illhoof)3-T3-B(aran)3-T10-B(netherspite)4-T11-B(prince)24 |
| 14:31.42 | Shinja | I'm "stuff crafting" on PTR with wowequip =) (leather boot that cost 60 badges aren't so bad !) |
| 14:31.43 | Grum | with T trash and B boss |
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| 14:32.13 | Grum | so worst trash was between curator and illhoof :D |
| 14:32.28 | Xinhuan | you can just make a /script to query the server for most hyperlinks in a loop |
| 14:32.33 | Xinhuan | like 100 at a time |
| 14:32.39 | Xinhuan | so you'll get the links in the local cache |
| 14:32.41 | Grum | and worst boss was on prince .. we had bad spawns and he bugged forcing us to pull with a pet and wipe again and walk in .. (not targetabble orso) |
| 14:32.51 | Shinja | Xinhuan, have a look to causality addon for archimonde =) |
| 14:33.06 | Xinhuan | what does it do |
| 14:33.16 | Shinja | it's a death tracker |
| 14:33.36 | Xinhuan | you mean it just tracks who dies? |
| 14:33.37 | Shinja | I think I'll write my death tracker addon |
| 14:33.42 | Grum | lol in total we spend 35 minutes on killing bosses O.o |
| 14:33.47 | Shinja | it's immportant for archimonde |
| 14:34.04 | Shinja | Soul Charge are evil |
| 14:34.05 | Xinhuan | grum that times you listed doesn't include out of combat :o |
| 14:34.06 | Grum | and 1h45m on trash and 10m on bugs :) |
| 14:34.08 | Xinhuan | so it isn't accurate |
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| 14:34.21 | Grum | Xinhuan: it is actually |
| 14:34.27 | Xinhuan | you sure? |
| 14:34.29 | Grum | but it has no ooc indeed |
| 14:34.33 | Elkano | Xinhuan, he could also download ItemDB which uses LibInventory-2.1 which does that by itself in background ^^ |
| 14:34.39 | Grum | just 'getting from boss to boss' takes X minutes (the Txxx) |
| 14:34.41 | Shinja | accurency is good but it's missing so info I think |
| 14:35.13 | Xinhuan | i timed my kara.. fastest was 2 hours 57 min, did everything except Cellar boss and Nspite |
| 14:35.20 | Xinhuan | i guess if we did Nspite it would add about 10 min |
| 14:35.39 | Xinhuan | but this timing would include all the ooc buffing, ressing etc |
| 14:36.14 | Grum | http://wowwebstats.com/wp5iostlxslz3 <- the run |
| 14:36.25 | Grum | from 17:30 to 20:09 |
| 14:36.42 | Xinhuan | oh hey they removed brewfest :( |
| 14:36.59 | cryogen | they did? |
| 14:37.01 | cryogen | are you US? |
| 14:37.04 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 14:37.13 | Grum | already? |
| 14:37.18 | Xinhuan | US Blackrock, BG9 |
| 14:37.23 | Xinhuan | 7am server time |
| 14:37.25 | Xinhuan | atm |
| 14:37.26 | cryogen | i paid my first visit to brewfest yesterday too :( |
| 14:37.37 | Grum | i had 594 tickets in my bank |
| 14:37.43 | Grum | it better be there when i get home :D |
| 14:37.46 | cryogen | lol |
| 14:37.54 | Xinhuan | i was trying to get ppl to tell me how to hop to the top of the brewfest banner poles in the middle of iF |
| 14:37.54 | Grum | not kidding on the amount .. :( |
| 14:37.58 | Grum | 6 short for that stupid ram |
| 14:38.01 | Xinhuan | ppl hop up there and mount up all the time |
| 14:38.02 | Shinja | my GF only need 60 coupons to have the mount, she'll be crazy >_< |
| 14:38.02 | kenlyric | oh man. |
| 14:38.04 | kenlyric | I'd be sad. |
| 14:38.18 | kenlyric | seems strange. Why not just remove it on restart? |
| 14:38.33 | kenlyric | I guess I won't get my tenth pair of beer goggles |
| 14:39.03 | cryogen | i was expectin gi tto go away at maintainence this cee |
| 14:39.05 | cryogen | week |
| 14:39.21 | cryogen | woah, dunno what my fingers were doing there, but it wasnt typing |
| 14:39.36 | Xinhuan | well i teleported to IF |
| 14:39.43 | Xinhuan | and the banners aren't there anymore |
| 14:39.48 | kenlyric | October 2 - October 16 |
| 14:39.48 | Xinhuan | so i assume its gone |
| 14:39.53 | nevcairiel | they generally remove stuff like that around 7 am |
| 14:40.24 | cryogen | the us are usually a day ahead with stuff, arent they? |
| 14:40.25 | SunTsu | .o0( I didn't see the fun in it in the first place. ) |
| 14:40.29 | cryogen | or is that just patches? |
| 14:40.44 | kenlyric | i'm using the US calendar. |
| 14:40.53 | Hjalte | The banners are still there on Dunemaul EU |
| 14:40.55 | Xinhuan | the goggles would have been better if it were all gnome females! |
| 14:40.58 | kenlyric | so, it's still a day ahead. |
| 14:41.04 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: agreed. |
| 14:41.04 | cryogen | naughty |
| 14:41.07 | Xinhuan | i have screenshots of kaelthas as a gnome corpse hehe |
| 14:41.12 | kenlyric | but even on horde, they're nice when fighting murlocs |
| 14:41.36 | Xinhuan | he's like wearing shortpants |
| 14:41.57 | Grum | still 15oct here O.o |
| 14:42.00 | Grum | should still be there |
| 14:42.39 | Xinhuan | its still oct 15 at my place too |
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| 14:42.48 | Xinhuan | it isn't oct 16 until 2 hours later |
| 14:43.02 | Hjalte | ~seen anea |
| 14:43.05 | purl | anea <n=apyss@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 140d 20h 6m 47s ago, saying: 'any siteadmins reading this? :) my wiki-page http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SpamSentry doesn't look like it used to ;-)'. |
| 14:43.22 | Hjalte | 140d?! |
| 14:43.26 | Hjalte | Damn.... |
| 14:43.50 | kenlyric | it's not all over the general forum, so it must not be true. |
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| 14:44.30 | kenlyric | got brewfest banners in org. |
| 14:44.49 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r52138 10ElkBuffBars/ (6 files): |
| 14:44.49 | CIA-12 | ElkBuffBars |
| 14:44.49 | CIA-12 | - removed some duplicated default data |
| 14:44.49 | CIA-12 | - added bar layout - name abbreviation |
| 14:44.49 | CIA-12 | - now using UTF8 lib from pasta |
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| 14:45.55 | Xinhuan | hey Grum |
| 14:45.58 | Xinhuan | ping |
| 14:46.02 | Grum | PONGGG |
| 14:46.06 | Xinhuan | http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t17102-mod_revolutions_next_big_things/ <---- Routes got mentioned |
| 14:46.08 | kenlyric | yup, brewfest very much alive on us realms |
| 14:46.24 | cryogen | is it not just oceanic servers maybe? |
| 14:46.38 | nevcairiel | whats the server time there? |
| 14:46.45 | Xinhuan | my server isn't an oceanic server |
| 14:46.46 | Elkano | alive on EU Mannoroth, too |
| 14:46.54 | cryogen | maybe Xinhuan's server is just broke :D |
| 14:46.54 | Xinhuan | but the banners are all gone |
| 14:47.02 | Grum | Xinhuan: lol :D |
| 14:47.03 | Grum | that's fast |
| 14:47.14 | kenlyric | I don't have any toons near IF :/ |
| 14:47.42 | kenlyric | all four of my alliance alts are 22-23 and in ashenvale. |
| 14:47.46 | kenlyric | come on 2.3! |
| 14:48.21 | kenlyric | as a hunter, I care about too many stats. makes gear choices hard. |
| 14:48.56 | Grum | kenlyric: depends on what level tbh :) |
| 14:49.00 | kenlyric | three stats are always red, three stats are always green *cry* |
| 14:50.17 | Grum | lol |
| 14:50.58 | Grum | RAP(from agi)>RAP>Crit(from agi)>Crit>agi>sta>int |
| 14:51.10 | Grum | orso O.o |
| 14:51.26 | kenlyric | right, for raiding. |
| 14:51.38 | kenlyric | i'm strictly a solo beast, with occasional pvp now. |
| 14:52.40 | kenlyric | I do tend to still favor agility, but the stamina/int losses make me cry more. |
| 14:54.02 | Grum | for soloing it greatly depends on what pet and spec you have |
| 14:54.13 | kenlyric | i'm just tending for ilvl increases now. if it turns from two digit into three digit, it's an UPGRADE! |
| 14:54.40 | Grum | hehe watchout for the high ilvl blues which are worse than some lower ilvl epix ;) |
| 14:54.49 | kenlyric | yeah, not a problem for me :) |
| 14:55.04 | kenlyric | groups are for healing. |
| 14:55.07 | Grum | but what spec and what kind of pet? :D |
| 14:55.11 | Grum | and what level? :D |
| 14:56.12 | kenlyric | BM spec, had a boar and just got a ravager when I hit 70. Still measuring if the dps gain from the ravager is offset by what I'm forced to not do because of threat. |
| 14:57.05 | kenlyric | the ravager is really there for if I ever find myself doing a group, i mostly like solo/pvp with the boar. |
| 14:57.18 | Grum | boar is nice in any spec because of charge |
| 14:57.29 | Grum | which if it his is an instant 5-6k aggro |
| 14:57.36 | Grum | *hits |
| 14:57.43 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r52139 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: |
| 14:57.43 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Herbalism: |
| 14:57.43 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.43 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.44 | kenlyric | charge plus intimidation plus bestial wrath makes for a painful life in bg. |
| 14:58.28 | kenlyric | the ravager sucks even more now because he's only loyalty 2. So, no hp/armor skills at all. |
| 14:58.34 | kenlyric | so very squishy |
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| 14:59.06 | Elkano | Zhinjio: ping |
| 14:59.17 | Pkekyo | ckknight: you around? |
| 15:00.17 | Pkekyo | anyone know if CKKs rock has affected Cartographer? |
| 15:00.26 | Shinja | the 2.3 Mace spec puzzles me... :/ |
| 15:00.32 | nevcairiel | define affected? |
| 15:00.39 | nevcairiel | he converted carographer to rock |
| 15:00.45 | Elkano | did you mean: infected |
| 15:00.50 | Shinja | seems to be a little overpower |
| 15:01.09 | nevcairiel | you can use Cartographer1 from the files page and run the install.bat if you want the "old" cartographer back |
| 15:01.41 | Shinja | hi Elkano, EBB have some minor problems on 2.3 |
| 15:01.57 | Pkekyo | nevcairiel: did he convert it to rock or otherwise fuck it up? |
| 15:02.02 | Elkano | yeah, read that on forums |
| 15:02.07 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo: yes he did |
| 15:02.12 | Pkekyo | fucksake >.< |
| 15:02.13 | kadrahil | it works fine |
| 15:02.22 | Elkano | but since I have no room for a PTR currently fixing will have to wait untill release most likely |
| 15:02.31 | nevcairiel | like i said, if it doesnt work for you, use Cartographer1, and run install.bat after download.. :) |
| 15:02.45 | Shinja | and about automatic abbreviation ? |
| 15:03.01 | Pkekyo | trying to stay away from Rocked addons |
| 15:03.05 | kenlyric | hold god, I just mounted up and jumped of BEM |
| 15:03.13 | kenlyric | except I was on my land mount :/ |
| 15:03.18 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 15:03.25 | kadrahil | haha |
| 15:03.30 | kenlyric | luckily I found a spire to land on |
| 15:03.35 | Shinja | rest in peace ;o |
| 15:03.37 | nevcairiel | BEM? |
| 15:03.40 | kenlyric | i lived |
| 15:03.48 | kadrahil | big energetic men |
| 15:03.53 | Shinja | Blade Egde mountains |
| 15:03.55 | kadrahil | that Pkekyo likes |
| 15:03.56 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 15:04.08 | kadrahil | see what i did thur? |
| 15:04.10 | Pkekyo | kadrahil: hmm? |
| 15:04.24 | kadrahil | fine, disregard the joke completely |
| 15:05.07 | kadrahil | Pkekyo: by saying "big energetic men" as an acronym for BEM, i introduced the possibility of making a joke against me, so i misdirected that possibility to you |
| 15:05.19 | Ellipsis | so I've chosen my Halloween costume. |
| 15:05.26 | Ellipsis | I'm going to go as a companion cube. |
| 15:05.29 | Pkekyo | kadrahil: not really paying attention :) |
| 15:05.35 | kadrahil | Ellipsis: a defias leather armor suit? |
| 15:05.37 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: epic! |
| 15:05.49 | Elkano | Shinja, scroll up a bit, r52138 |
| 15:06.02 | Ellipsis | and all it takes is a cardboard box and some paint! |
| 15:06.04 | Ellipsis | brilliant! |
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| 15:06.28 | nevcairiel | i suppose it'll make you look somewhat fat |
| 15:06.29 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:06.32 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: agreed |
| 15:06.44 | Pkekyo | I'm going as "the cake is a lie" kek |
| 15:06.58 | Pkekyo | dunno how I'm to pull it off, but will think of something |
| 15:07.02 | Chompers | there will be cake. |
| 15:07.19 | Shinja | Elkano, yep I've updated 5 mins ago, lanchiing WoW =) |
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| 15:08.52 | Pkekyo | Chompers: NO! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! |
| 15:09.07 | Elkano | I didn't get that one :( |
| 15:09.16 | Chompers | you must be the previous test subject :P |
| 15:10.07 | Shinja | Elkano, I've some error with mousewheel on abbreviation menu (the len) |
| 15:10.27 | Elkano | which ones? |
| 15:11.46 | Shinja | [2007/10/15 17:09:30-1404-x13]: ElkBuffBars-2.0.52138\EBB_Bar.lua:479: attempt to call upvalue 'strutf8len' (a nil value) |
| 15:12.38 | Elkano | you installed without externals, did you? |
| 15:12.47 | Shinja | yep |
| 15:13.03 | Shinja | just upgrad it |
| 15:13.21 | Elkano | and you don't use Grid |
| 15:13.29 | Shinja | I use grid |
| 15:13.34 | Elkano | hmm... |
| 15:13.55 | Elkano | did you update via svn or via WAU? |
| 15:13.58 | Shinja | WAU |
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| 15:14.14 | Shinja | 1.9.45.701 |
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| 15:15.04 | Elkano | inside your EBB folder you are having a lib/UTF8/? |
| 15:15.33 | Elkano | oh, I see the problem ^^ |
| 15:15.47 | Elkano | WAU removed the load instructions for that 'lib' |
| 15:16.11 | Shinja | yep I've the Lib/UTF8 |
| 15:16.52 | Elkano | move the UTF8 folder inside addons and you should be fine for now |
| 15:17.29 | Shinja | ok |
| 15:17.47 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r52140 10ElkBuffBars/ (ElkBuffBars.lua ElkBuffBars.toc embeds.xml): |
| 15:17.47 | CIA-12 | ElkBuffBars |
| 15:17.47 | CIA-12 | - load UTF8 via toc instead of xml to fix WAU problem |
| 15:19.48 | Elkano | Shinja, problem is that normal string functions work on bytes but UTF8 chars can be multibyte and thus one UTF8 char in abbreviation can be more than one byte. thus I use the UTF8 lib which works fine with such chars. but WAU strips all libs from externals.xml if you download without externals so UTF8 wasn't loaded |
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| 15:20.30 | Shinja | with UTF8 in addon it word like a charm |
| 15:20.56 | Shinja | aaahhh so nice, abbreviated spells/buffs :D |
| 15:21.41 | Shinja | ohh, one word buff are also troncated |
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| 15:24.02 | Elkano | yeah, bad? |
| 15:24.03 | Pkekyo | has ROCK become "safe" yet? |
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| 15:24.31 | durcyn | has been "safe" for a while. don't believe the hype. |
| 15:24.55 | Pkekyo | btw, does it have fubar and/or text command configs? |
| 15:24.58 | RogueShadow | I wasn't aware of it not being safe. |
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| 15:25.26 | RogueShadow | By FuBar configs you mean?... |
| 15:25.29 | Shinja | Elkano, it's not bad but Parrot and Battlechat doesn't one word buff to one letter =) |
| 15:25.40 | Shinja | +abbreviate |
| 15:25.55 | Elkano | wrt Parrot I know that ^^' |
| 15:26.21 | Elkano | Parrot's code made me aware of the UTF8 problem |
| 15:26.28 | RogueShadow | I'm planning on going through and disabling spell names in parrot, icons are sufficient |
| 15:27.07 | Shinja | it could be also a funny option to EBB |
| 15:27.20 | erb | can I set parrot to filter out hits < 200 damage |
| 15:27.28 | erb | i haven't checked yet, just curious |
| 15:27.29 | Elkano | Shinja, what? |
| 15:27.32 | Chompers | yes. |
| 15:27.50 | erb | compers: that is a yes to me? |
| 15:28.00 | Shinja | nothing, you can do it now =) (hide text) |
| 15:28.18 | Chompers | yes erb, it can |
| 15:28.22 | erb | thanks |
| 15:28.33 | Elkano | Shinja, you allways could with 2.0 |
| 15:28.36 | erb | it'll be handy to ignore my pets data |
| 15:28.41 | erb | and anything trivial |
| 15:29.17 | alext | erb: no |
| 15:29.24 | alext | haha |
| 15:29.27 | alext | yeah u can filter it |
| 15:29.34 | alext | like chompers said |
| 15:29.36 | Chompers | just ignore your pet data then, no need to filter ALL data |
| 15:31.09 | erb | i don't want to ignore pet data all together |
| 15:31.14 | erb | just trivial hits |
| 15:31.22 | CIA-12 | 03jayhawk * r52141 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (PetInfoFu.lua PetInfoFuLocals-enUS.lua): |
| 15:31.22 | CIA-12 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 15:31.22 | CIA-12 | - updated happiness tracking (beta 2) |
| 15:31.38 | CIA-12 | 03gagorian * r52142 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: - Fixed deDE translation for Improved Holy Shield |
| 15:31.39 | erb | i like seeing those 1000 damage kill commands |
| 15:31.48 | erb | oh nice happiness tracking for pets |
| 15:32.27 | Pkekyo | >RogueShadow:By FuBar configs you mean?... |
| 15:32.27 | Pkekyo | I mean those pretty little icons on fubar that I can right click to mess about with settings etc for the specific addon |
| 15:33.09 | RogueShadow | Aye, I have always been able to do that. |
| 15:33.23 | RogueShadow | FuBar itself's menu is the config gui, but the individual addons are unaffected |
| 15:33.35 | RogueShadow | unless it's a rock addon |
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| 15:33.42 | RogueShadow | thenit has a gui |
| 15:33.44 | durcyn | he means dewdrop. |
| 15:35.23 | Pkekyo | RogueShadow: I'm refering specificly to rock addons now, considering wether or not I should update |
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| 15:36.34 | Pkekyo | 360786 damage done, 142 DPS...anyone able to calculate for how long combat has lasted? |
| 15:36.38 | ulic | I've been running Rock addons for a while now without issue |
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| 15:37.21 | QuantumDelta | 2540.7464788732394366197183098592 Seconds Pkekyo |
| 15:37.26 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 15:37.35 | Pkekyo | now that's alot of seconds |
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| 15:37.46 | QuantumDelta | Miss not, the decimal! |
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| 15:38.07 | Pkekyo | how'd you calculate? damage divided by dps? |
| 15:38.11 | QuantumDelta | It's pretty simple though just 360786/142 |
| 15:38.12 | QuantumDelta | ^^ |
| 15:38.14 | ulic | lua> print((360786/142)/60) |
| 15:38.14 | cladbot | ulic: 42.345774647887 |
| 15:38.23 | ulic | 42 mins |
| 15:38.38 | Pkekyo | holy shit |
| 15:38.44 | Pkekyo | I've been in combat for 42 min now :p |
| 15:39.34 | kadrahil | http://wowhead.com/?spell=43946 |
| 15:39.35 | kadrahil | ZOMG |
| 15:40.46 | Pkekyo | kadrahil: and hunters weren't hard enough before? meh! |
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| 15:41.43 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 15:41.52 | QuantumDelta | Hey Evolve |
| 15:41.54 | cryogen | afternoon |
| 15:42.23 | kadrahil | Pkekyo: that's just a proposed change on the PTR, don't know if it'll make it live |
| 15:44.03 | Pkekyo | kadrahil: even the idea of it happening... |
| 15:44.11 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.42 | RogueShadow | does that define you? Pkekyo |
| 15:44.58 | Pkekyo | not really |
| 15:45.14 | RogueShadow | k |
| 15:45.20 | Pkekyo | frankly, I'm too tired to bitch and moan |
| 15:45.36 | RogueShadow | Pkekyo, [11:44] <Pkekyo> /bitchandmoan |
| 15:46.09 | Pkekyo | so? |
| 15:46.28 | Pkekyo | that was then, this is now |
| 15:46.32 | Pkekyo | get with the programme > |
| 15:51.52 | Zhinjio | G'morning folks. |
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| 15:55.53 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: I've got a few questions regarding Flexbar2 :) First, is there any way to display the petbar or do you have an idea to how I can view it using flexbar with my warlock? |
| 15:56.31 | Zhinjio | does someone have a good example of programmatically creating a dewdrop menu (using Addline calls) as opposed to simply assigning it an options menu? |
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| 15:57.33 | Balstor | Hjalte : i don't se anyway for flrxbar2 to make a pet bar, but bartender could handly that very well |
| 15:58.00 | Hjalte | Balstor: I'm using bartender and Flexbar2 together right now, but only using bartender for the petbar. |
| 15:58.15 | Balstor | yhea I do the same thing |
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| 15:59.14 | Balstor | to make a petbar in flexbar you would have to be able to drag the pet actions to buttons, or maybe make macros to perform pet actions. I can't think of anyother way to do it |
| 15:59.26 | Cyrez | FlexBar2 doesn't have code to handle the pet bar buttons last I knew, but I'm pretty sure it's planned for the future. It's somewhat difficult. |
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| 15:59.31 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r52143 10!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/ (AlarLib-2.0.lua embeds.xml): |
| 15:59.31 | CIA-12 | !AlarLib Slightly revised the frame generation code. |
| 15:59.31 | CIA-12 | Added FrameAddPanel |
| 15:59.59 | Balstor | hmm aloft needs a scale based off range to target :( |
| 16:00.18 | Hjalte | Balstor: In theory I suppose you could make macros for all abilities but you would have problems when you summoned another pet. |
| 16:00.20 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r52144 10AlarAutomation/ (AlarAutomation.lua AlarAutomation.toc): AlarAutomation Added BESMART: closes your chat and disable "reply" key on entering combat |
| 16:00.46 | Ouzi | is there much difference between the latest version of WAU and WAU2? |
| 16:00.58 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, use visor to hide stuff, don't use /fb blizz show=false |
| 16:01.24 | Balstor | yhea Hjalte pet bars are just a different creature from action bars, actually what you need is an addon just to handle pet bars, something small and focused |
| 16:01.26 | cncfanatics | Balstor, Cyrez, Hjalte: Ellipsis is working on a petbar I think |
| 16:01.43 | Cyrez | o_0 |
| 16:01.50 | Balstor | something like flexbar2-petbar-edition |
| 16:01.52 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Oh, that's a way to do it i suppose. Also, any way to change the colour/size of the text on the buttons? - I would like to have the Buffdur text be in another colour for example |
| 16:02.01 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, not atm |
| 16:02.10 | cncfanatics | should add support for it rly, meh |
| 16:02.25 | cryogen | cncfanatics: latest version is pro btw |
| 16:02.25 | cncfanatics | actualy, let me do that right away |
| 16:02.31 | cncfanatics | cryogen, whats so pro ? |
| 16:02.35 | Balstor | hjalte crack the whip keep them developers busy |
| 16:02.40 | cryogen | usability is fixed :) |
| 16:02.57 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r52145 10AlarBGHelper/ (5 files): |
| 16:02.57 | CIA-12 | AlarBGHelper Rewritten (almost) from scratch. Now uses Glory Lib for better |
| 16:02.57 | CIA-12 | portability. Eos support is not working dbecause it's missing in Glory. I am |
| 16:02.57 | CIA-12 | writing myself it, but it will take some time. Some features have gone (auto |
| 16:02.57 | CIA-12 | spam when attacked, syncronization in AV). I will reimplemnt them if asked |
| 16:03.06 | cncfanatics | report bugs on irc so I see them cryogen, never noticed till Hjalte told me, and it was just an oversight rly, stupid it was on so long |
| 16:03.14 | cncfanatics | (was on a few days before anyone noticed it) |
| 16:03.23 | cryogen | i told you like a zillion times :D |
| 16:03.28 | cncfanatics | never saw |
| 16:03.32 | cryogen | sure you did |
| 16:03.38 | cryogen | you claimed to have fixed it at least twice :p |
| 16:03.41 | cncfanatics | btw, if any of you want to write a petbar, go along , I can help you |
| 16:03.49 | CIA-12 | 03cronan * r52146 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: |
| 16:03.49 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 16:03.49 | CIA-12 | self -> mod change |
| 16:04.38 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r52147 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc Libs/): AlarTTFrame Cosmetic fixes and internal optimization |
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| 16:10.40 | Zhinjio | wow, my laptop arrived a couple days early. |
| 16:10.53 | Zhinjio | shutting down to rearrange my desk and all that. |
| 16:10.56 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 16:11.42 | [1]simlan | I requested a SVN account a few days ago via e-mail. I didn't get a reply so far. Is this normal or is the mail lost? |
| 16:12.08 | vhaarr | it's normal |
| 16:12.10 | vhaarr | just wait |
| 16:12.20 | [1]simlan | ok, thakns |
| 16:12.39 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r52148 10ElkBuffBars/EBB_Bar.lua: |
| 16:12.39 | CIA-12 | ElkBuffBars |
| 16:12.39 | CIA-12 | - fix debug output |
| 16:12.45 | cryogen | they tend to get done in batches these days |
| 16:13.06 | cryogen | mine took a few days |
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| 16:14.23 | Fisker- | ATTACK |
| 16:14.24 | Fisker- | DIE |
| 16:14.25 | Fisker- | DESTROY |
| 16:14.27 | Fisker- | these are commands |
| 16:15.06 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52149 10ColaLight/ColaLight.toc: |
| 16:15.06 | CIA-12 | ColaLight: |
| 16:15.06 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.59 | cncfanatics | how would one change the damn size of a fontstring ? anyone ? |
| 16:17.22 | Elkano | font size? |
| 16:17.33 | cncfanatics | the size of the text of a fontstring |
| 16:17.46 | cncfanatics | SetScale ? |
| 16:18.27 | cncfanatics | SetScale doesnt work, just tried |
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| 16:19.35 | phyber | change the size of the frame that the font is in? |
| 16:19.36 | Pkekyo | anyone know how I restore a WAU backup? |
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| 16:20.33 | Balstor | to do it correct you wou;d have to reissue the SetFont command |
| 16:21.23 | phyber | :SetFont(font, self.db.profile.FontSize, flags) |
| 16:21.25 | phyber | I do this. |
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| 16:25.51 | Pkekyo | well, CKKs ROCK killed my fubar and left me with fuckedup addons and a horde of minimap icons |
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| 16:26.33 | Pkekyo | fucksake |
| 16:26.34 | cncfanatics | screw textsubs size then, not needed anyway |
| 16:26.59 | durcyn | Pkekyo: PEBKAC |
| 16:27.09 | Pkekyo | durcyn: err? |
| 16:28.23 | Ouzi | just ran WAU and now all my addons are basically broken :/ |
| 16:28.41 | D8taman | I recently installed Auctioneer. It has a debugger that began showing login errors about Cartographer. The Auctioneer chatroom referred me here. |
| 16:28.43 | Recluse | D= |
| 16:28.56 | Pkekyo | Ouzi: same happened to me |
| 16:29.20 | Ouzi | bt3 isnt loading pitbull isnt loading simpleminimap has reset |
| 16:29.41 | Pkekyo | so...any way to recover my old UI? |
| 16:29.53 | durcyn | Pkekyo: Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair. PEBKAC. |
| 16:30.03 | Pkekyo | durcyn: how'd you figure? |
| 16:30.28 | durcyn | Pkekyo: because it works. Make sure you've got the right libs in the right places. |
| 16:30.51 | Pkekyo | which libs in what places? |
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| 16:31.43 | durcyn | the dependencies of the addons you just installed/upgraded, either embedded or standalone. |
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| 16:32.39 | Pkekyo | not a single addon showing lacking dependencies |
| 16:33.05 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52150 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFuLocal-zhCN.lua): |
| 16:33.05 | CIA-12 | FuBar_GroupFu: |
| 16:33.05 | CIA-12 | Add zhCN Local |
| 16:33.47 | Recluse | D8taman: from looking at your pastey, I'd suggest installing AceAddon-2.0 and AceDB-2.0 from WAU/wowace.com for starters... However, i thought Cartographer went Rock, so I'm at a loss for that. Might try wiping the offending Cartographer directories from the disk and reinstalling? |
| 16:34.38 | D8taman | Which are the offending ones? |
| 16:34.47 | vhaarr | D8taman: just get WAU2 and reinstall your wowace addons |
| 16:35.20 | D8taman | How do I copy this chat text? |
| 16:35.22 | Recluse | Cartographer, _Vendors, _Herbalism, _Mining it looks like |
| 16:35.43 | Pkekyo | "attempt to call global 'Rock' (a nil value)" <----- now what? |
| 16:36.01 | durcyn | Pkekyo: are you using embeds or no |
| 16:36.09 | D8taman | Never mind. I hav a copy |
| 16:36.10 | Recluse | D8taman: i guess text selection depends on what program you use? XD |
| 16:36.20 | Pkekyo | durcyn: updating 'without externals' |
| 16:36.41 | Recluse | Pkekyo: automatic dependency download option on as well? |
| 16:37.24 | Pkekyo | Recluse: aye |
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| 16:37.44 | Recluse | is Rock in your addon folder? lol |
| 16:37.53 | Recluse | or on addons listing in-game anyhow |
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| 16:38.11 | Pkekyo | err |
| 16:38.14 | Pkekyo | not that I can tell |
| 16:38.24 | Pkekyo | I've got LibRock-1.0 in my addons folder though |
| 16:38.26 | Ouzi | wish someone would update hattrick i loved that addon but it hasnt been touched in 2 months |
| 16:38.39 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 07jerry * r52151 10Grid/Grid/GridLocale-enUS.lua: Grid: (branch) add the missing translations. |
| 16:38.46 | Pkekyo | Ouzi: what you need it updated for? |
| 16:38.48 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, got a new feature for ya :p |
| 16:38.59 | Ouzi | to use |
| 16:39.02 | Recluse | lol |
| 16:39.11 | Pkekyo | it just hide/show your cloak and helm? check the use out of date addons box? |
| 16:39.30 | D8taman | i will get back to you later, thanks. |
| 16:39.38 | Recluse | ok d8taman |
| 16:39.41 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r52152 10PitBull_AltAura/options.lua: PitBull_AltAura: bugfix |
| 16:39.56 | Pkekyo | holy jumping fucking jesus, I've got fubar back |
| 16:40.07 | Recluse | huh, i didn't know there was one of those, i wrote a fubar helm/cloak toggler for personal use a while back |
| 16:40.25 | Recluse | grats Pkekyo |
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| 16:41.09 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, you don't swear enough imo, please swear more |
| 16:41.24 | Pkekyo | Recluse: now...how can I right-click fubar without getting that fugly rock config? |
| 16:41.33 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: why the flying fuck should I swear more? |
| 16:42.00 | cncfanatics | ~sarcasm off |
| 16:42.20 | Recluse | Pkekyo: well... that's how it works afaik, i know some people were asking to have the dropdown back a while back (if memory serves), but that's how it is for now |
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| 16:42.25 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r52153 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 16:42.25 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 16:42.25 | CIA-12 | - ZA update |
| 16:42.52 | Pkekyo | Recluse: ckk responsible for this blasphemy, no? |
| 16:43.09 | Recluse | i could be wrong *shrug* :p well, he's the author, so i'd assume |
| 16:43.09 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, u can now change the red, green, blue & alpha values on textfields |
| 16:43.23 | CIA-12 | 03alar * r52154 10AlarAutomation/AlarAutomation.toc: AlarAutomation Bumped version number to 2.1 |
| 16:43.36 | Pkekyo | then I suggest we kick him in the chest so that he fall down a deep, black hole |
| 16:43.38 | Chompers | use an old version and never update Pkekyo |
| 16:44.33 | Pkekyo | Chompers: used to do that, but figured I ought to try rock for once today... the WAU backup crap won't work, so I'm screwed /wrist |
| 16:44.57 | Pkekyo | FUCKSAKE! |
| 16:44.57 | Pkekyo | even autobar've got that fugly waterfall crap now...there's no end to this sacrilidge |
| 16:45.05 | Recluse | lol |
| 16:45.11 | kebinusan | you can always run an older version |
| 16:45.17 | Chompers | is it really that bad? |
| 16:45.24 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52155 10GemHelper/ (GemHelper.toc GemHelper.xml GemHelper_Localization.zhCN.lua): |
| 16:45.24 | CIA-12 | GemHelper: |
| 16:45.24 | CIA-12 | -Add zhCN Loacl |
| 16:45.40 | cncfanatics | na, they just want drama |
| 16:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, having fubar and pitbull pop up that obnoxious window on every fucking mis-click is rather bad :P |
| 16:46.01 | Recluse | i don't mind it for addons personally, but i do miss the dropdown on fubar itself |
| 16:46.08 | Pkekyo | waterfall config is really THAT bad! it was fugly before rock, and it is fugly now |
| 16:47.56 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r52156 10FlexBar2/TextSubs/ (Slashcommands.lua TextSubs.lua): FlexBar2: Add the ability to set the red, green, blue & alpha values of a textfield with /fb settext |
| 16:50.19 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl85-238-74-80.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 16:51.50 | Pkekyo | Was rock supposed to use less resources than Ace2? |
| 16:51.55 | cryogen | hmm |
| 16:52.04 | durcyn | stop being such a drama queen |
| 16:52.07 | Xinhuan | it uses less. |
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| 16:52.27 | Xinhuan | but until the day where you stop using ace2 and onlu sue pure rock addons, you'll be using both rock and ace2 |
| 16:52.30 | Xinhuan | so its "more" |
| 16:52.38 | Xinhuan | only use* |
| 16:52.38 | neenee | *more |
| 16:52.59 | Pkekyo | what's CPU profiling? |
| 16:53.30 | Xinhuan | a technique that programmers use to determine which parts of the code uses the most CPU time |
| 16:53.46 | Pkekyo | soeh...I shouldn't have enabled it? :p |
| 16:53.52 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 16:53.55 | Xinhuan | it adds overhead |
| 16:54.03 | Balstor | targeting suspect cpus based on there bit moving, too mutch bit moving shows the cpu is showing porn again and needs a police beatdown.... |
| 16:54.46 | Xinhuan | typically addons that aren't written well will use up a lot of CPU time, which slows down everything else since your CPU is busy |
| 16:54.55 | Xinhuan | can result in lower FPS |
| 16:55.42 | Balstor | ctrl-R alt-Z is a quick way to see what addons are doing to you |
| 16:56.26 | QuantumDelta | eh |
| 16:56.32 | QuantumDelta | I have a lot of addons Balstor |
| 16:56.42 | QuantumDelta | and ctrl-r/alt-z makes no difference to my fps at all :P |
| 16:59.57 | cncfanatics | alt-Z only hides the frames |
| 17:00.05 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl85-238-74-80.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 17:00.39 | Balstor | true but notice i said quick not that in-depth but a quick way to see i there is a big fps hit |
| 17:01.22 | Balstor | Which remonds me the author of SCT needs to fix his addon if you hide the frames then unhide it , it then scrolls all the events that occured while hidden |
| 17:02.49 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52157 10Baggins/ (Baggins-zhCN.lua Baggins.toc): |
| 17:02.49 | CIA-12 | Baggins: |
| 17:02.49 | CIA-12 | - Add zhCN Local |
| 17:03.42 | RogueShadow | wow. you've got to be kidding me.... I just readi Vista's patch turns it back into XP and thier stopping development. |
| 17:04.20 | cryogen | you just read.. a joke site |
| 17:04.22 | cncfanatics | RogueShadow, ehm, lol ? where did u read that fake news ? |
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| 17:04.41 | RogueShadow | some fake news site most likely |
| 17:04.56 | cryogen | cncfanatics: pff, auction is close to 200 pages now :) |
| 17:04.58 | RogueShadow | BBut you have to admit, it would be hilarious |
| 17:05.01 | cryogen | damned high pop servers |
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| 17:05.39 | cncfanatics | cryogen, nice stuff |
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| 17:06.20 | *** part/#wowace cncfanatics (i=evolve@248.175-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
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| 17:06.20 | cryogen | not nice, takes all day to scan :p |
| 17:06.20 | cncfanatics | next patch solves auctioneer stuff anyway |
| 17:06.20 | cncfanatics | can scan all at once |
| 17:06.20 | cryogen | yeah |
| 17:06.20 | cryogen | <3 |
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| 17:16.42 | CIA-12 | 03cronan * r52158 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Halazzi.lua Malacrass.lua): |
| 17:16.42 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 17:16.42 | CIA-12 | - Update for current koKR PTR. Some skill names are not translated by Blizzard yet. |
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| 17:20.32 | NeoTron | so once again we fail to kill Kael'thas after easily making it into phase 5 the first 2 tries |
| 17:20.52 | NeoTron | what's up with the debuff the tank takes and dies from? it randomly floats around the room? |
| 17:21.05 | Xinhuan | what debuff |
| 17:21.08 | Xinhuan | arcane disruption? |
| 17:21.18 | NeoTron | the thing that lowers HP by 10% |
| 17:21.32 | Toadkiller | doesnt seem too bad a debuff... |
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| 17:21.46 | NeoTron | stacking up to 9 times |
| 17:22.00 | Toadkiller | mmm when u phrase it that way though... |
| 17:22.20 | Toadkiller | So you need taunt rotation... |
| 17:22.25 | Xinhuan | well your tank isn't supposed to be near it |
| 17:22.26 | NeoTron | no |
| 17:22.34 | NeoTron | it's not just in melee rang |
| 17:22.34 | Kemayo | neenee: The "work complete" thing in nQuestLog is part of its Notifications module. You can either disable it entirely or I believe there are toggles for specific sounds. |
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| 17:22.50 | NeoTron | he's not tauntable |
| 17:23.06 | NeoTron | but never the less, the tank didn't charge in and still got it so it has to come from somewhere |
| 17:23.14 | NeoTron | unless he was, despite what he claimed, standing too close |
| 17:23.15 | Toadkiller | Huhuran style threat hand off? |
| 17:23.31 | NeoTron | no |
| 17:23.35 | NeoTron | not getting it by it |
| 17:23.39 | NeoTron | there's no way to multi-tank |
| 17:24.18 | Xinhuan | Nether Vapor - Appear as small black clouds floating around in the air with you. If touched they add a stacking debuff that reduces your max health by 10% each time. |
| 17:24.40 | neenee | Kemayo, oki. |
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| 17:25.44 | neenee | I was mainly just looking for a way to have a sound played without getting NQuestLog |
| 17:26.07 | NeoTron | so what does that mean? does it stand still, move around, follow some targeted player? |
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| 17:26.31 | NeoTron | I guess it was incorrect thinking only being in melee range applied that debuff |
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| 17:27.54 | NeoTron | most strats don't seem to even mention any floating nether vapor but only to stay away from melee |
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| 17:27.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|AFK] by ChanServ |
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| 17:29.18 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r52159 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:29.18 | CIA-12 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 17:29.19 | CIA-12 | - Crystal Mana 33935:1800 |
| 17:29.19 | CIA-12 | - Gear.Trinkets set. Almost empty atm. |
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| 17:30.53 | Erica | Anyone happen to know if there's a known issue right now with Recount and reporting? The output options are grayed out for me since I just reinstalled with the latest version |
| 17:31.24 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r52160 10BigWigs/ (Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua Plugins/Messages.lua): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 17:35.57 | Trell_ | sill question Erica; but is there any data there to actually report+ |
| 17:36.06 | Trell_ | s/report+/report?/ |
| 17:36.15 | Trell_ | *silly |
| 17:37.48 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: ping |
| 17:41.42 | NeoTron | oh and on one attempt KT bugged out and was casting pyroblast while untargetable during the phase 4->5 transition |
| 17:41.49 | NeoTron | killing the MT and two others |
| 17:42.09 | Ellipsis | pyrowned |
| 17:42.29 | NeoTron | I'm so tired of that fight |
| 17:42.37 | NeoTron | count is now at 99 wipes |
| 17:42.45 | Ellipsis | 100th time's the charm! |
| 17:43.47 | NeoTron | what frustrates me most is when people do stupid things and get themself killed from thaladrad in phase 1 or capernian in phase 1 |
| 17:43.53 | NeoTron | or heck, anything in phase 1 |
| 17:44.10 | kenlyric | "what frustrates me most is when people do stupid things and get themself killed " |
| 17:44.11 | Mudkips | pro tip |
| 17:44.17 | Mudkips | -50dkp |
| 17:44.17 | kenlyric | is all you need to say. |
| 17:44.28 | kenlyric | actually, cut off the killed part. |
| 17:44.38 | kenlyric | in fact, cut out "stupid things" too. |
| 17:44.44 | Ellipsis | win |
| 17:44.50 | kenlyric | "what frustrates me most is people" |
| 17:44.51 | CIA-12 | 03julith * r52161 10GridStatusIncomingHealth/ (4 files): |
| 17:44.51 | CIA-12 | GridStatusIncomingHealth: initial commit |
| 17:44.51 | CIA-12 | - publishes the health plus incoming heals of a unit as status to grid |
| 17:45.05 | Ellipsis | :o |
| 17:45.08 | Ellipsis | mah cookiez |
| 17:45.14 | kenlyric | mmo would be so much more fun if it weren't for other players |
| 17:45.19 | art3mis | http://www.typingtest.com/ <-- boredom! |
| 17:45.20 | Ellipsis | inorite! |
| 17:45.31 | Mudkips | that sorta defeats the point of an mmo |
| 17:45.32 | NeoTron | kenlyric: indeed |
| 17:45.41 | art3mis | mud not really |
| 17:45.42 | Mudkips | gb2 single player rpg |
| 17:45.46 | kenlyric | http://www.nanowrimo.org/ cure for boredom |
| 17:45.47 | NeoTron | 10 man raids you can do with good people |
| 17:45.50 | art3mis | player interaction isnt in the acronym ;P |
| 17:46.02 | Ellipsis | not for two more weeks kenlyric :( |
| 17:46.05 | kenlyric | Mudkips: other players are fine when you don't rely on them. |
| 17:46.06 | art3mis | massive multiplayer just means lots of players ;P |
| 17:46.09 | NeoTron | with 25-man raids you find yourself having people that find it smart to cut a corner adna ctually run torwards thaladred |
| 17:46.13 | kenlyric | to talk to, to quest together, etc. |
| 17:46.15 | NeoTron | even when you puck the best.. |
| 17:46.30 | Ellipsis | slow down and speak english, NeoTron :P |
| 17:46.53 | kenlyric | I willing to accept my theory means I don't really like MMOs. |
| 17:47.12 | Ellipsis | sadly I have to agree though. people suck. |
| 17:47.13 | Mudkips | ha |
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| 17:47.28 | Mudkips | get used to it |
| 17:47.45 | NeoTron | of course |
| 17:47.54 | kenlyric | I like my single player game with irc. |
| 17:48.00 | NeoTron | blizzard sucks more for doing an encounter as long and unforgiving as kael'thas at that level of the progression curve |
| 17:48.07 | kenlyric | makes me want to be in a guild in portal |
| 17:48.13 | Mudkips | o |
| 17:48.18 | Mudkips | we killed illidan last night |
| 17:48.20 | Mudkips | grats Thrust |
| 17:48.40 | kenlyric | swap illidan and kael, problem solved |
| 17:48.46 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 17:48.56 | Mudkips | phase 2 Illidan is just a shitstorm |
| 17:49.04 | Mudkips | you got flames eating yur megahurtz |
| 17:49.18 | Mudkips | and with Illidan imma chargin his pewpew lazors |
| 17:49.21 | Mudkips | it's just a crapfest |
| 17:49.38 | Ellipsis | I liek Mudkips |
| 17:49.42 | NeoTron | from what I understand kael'thas is still the harder (not equipment wise and such) encounter there is |
| 17:49.47 | kenlyric | that's what steam needs to do for community, make it completeely part of the interface, like mmo chat is. |
| 17:49.49 | NeoTron | just from the strategy point of view |
| 17:49.55 | Mudkips | STEAm |
| 17:49.56 | Mudkips | NO THANKS |
| 17:49.58 | bshelden | shift-tab? |
| 17:50.12 | kenlyric | bshelden: yeah, but I can't see it while it's shift-tabbed out. |
| 17:50.22 | bshelden | true, it only appears for moments |
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| 17:50.42 | NeoTron | ofc if vashj and kael'thas wasn't part of hyjal attunements no one would bother with them |
| 17:50.43 | Mudkips | steam is a bit more localized which is nice |
| 17:50.46 | kenlyric | i'm thinking a much more integrated overlay, like you have in wow. |
| 17:50.50 | bshelden | that said, being distracted when trying for a triple-fling doesn't help any |
| 17:50.50 | Mudkips | you get to know lots of so-cal players here |
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| 17:50.54 | NeoTron | you'd get better loot easier by going to hyjal/bt |
| 17:51.04 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, you can do that with the new Xfire interface |
| 17:51.13 | Mudkips | since usually you wont be playing with east coast people |
| 17:51.17 | Mudkips | ping issues ya know :P |
| 17:51.21 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: i'd need more friends, too :) |
| 17:51.23 | Ellipsis | it allows mouse interaction and lets you pin frames to the screen |
| 17:51.27 | kenlyric | i'm hoping nanos have a group this year. |
| 17:51.34 | Ellipsis | that'd be sweet |
| 17:51.37 | Balstor | You're a rapper with only 30 seconds to go -- how do you ensure a victory? Start scratching "The Imperial March" from Star Wars |
| 17:51.44 | kenlyric | are you a nano? |
| 17:51.51 | Ellipsis | I'm a wannabe nano =[ |
| 17:51.57 | kenlyric | do it do it do it! |
| 17:52.06 | Ellipsis | the problem is that my birthday falls in November |
| 17:52.11 | Ellipsis | which makes it inconvenient =[ |
| 17:52.12 | kenlyric | even better! |
| 17:52.24 | kenlyric | thanksgiving is always the best time. |
| 17:52.26 | Ellipsis | maybe this will be my first |
| 17:52.30 | Ellipsis | *maybe* |
| 17:52.30 | kenlyric | especially when it comes very very late in the month |
| 17:52.37 | Mudkips | fall is fat season] |
| 17:52.45 | Mudkips | you got halloween candies and thanksgiving |
| 17:52.49 | Mudkips | then to top it off |
| 17:52.52 | Mudkips | you got christmas dinners |
| 17:53.02 | Ellipsis | and you know you've got months before anyone's gonna see you in a swimsuit |
| 17:53.05 | kenlyric | halloween candy is nanofuel |
| 17:53.18 | Mudkips | lol swimsuit |
| 17:53.18 | Ellipsis | ...they make caffeinated halloween candy now? |
| 17:53.24 | Mudkips | I haven't been to the beach in years |
| 17:53.29 | kenlyric | uh, chocolate. |
| 17:53.34 | Ellipsis | needs moar |
| 17:53.37 | Mudkips | my tshirt tan is borderline scary |
| 17:53.40 | kenlyric | chocolate is sugar AND caffein in one. |
| 17:53.58 | Ellipsis | I guess I'll just make up for it by eating MOAR CHOKLIT |
| 17:54.05 | Balstor | japan has caffein gum with nicotine crystals |
| 17:54.11 | Mudkips | only if it's dark chocolate |
| 17:54.52 | Ellipsis | Balstor, that's a myth :P |
| 17:54.54 | Mudkips | Balstor, one would expect something like that coming from them |
| 17:54.54 | kenlyric | mihttp://www.hersheys.com/nutrition/caffeine.asp |
| 17:55.02 | kenlyric | http://www.hersheys.com/nutrition/caffeine.asp |
| 17:55.23 | Balstor | not a myth, i enjoyed it greatly while i was over there in the 90s |
| 17:55.27 | kenlyric | you gotta eat a lot, but it's *there* |
| 17:55.39 | Ellipsis | lol, 65-120mg in a cup of coffee? |
| 17:55.43 | Mudkips | thats like saying fish has mercury in it kenlyric |
| 17:55.47 | Ellipsis | clearly they have not had MY coffee |
| 17:55.48 | Mudkips | you gotta eat a lot but it's there |
| 17:56.10 | Balstor | and peace cigs in japan, PMG th e RUSH, one of the unfiltered ones (bought in cans i might add) has the nicotiene and tar of a PACK of marlbro reds. |
| 17:56.25 | kenlyric | you need the sugar more than the caffeine for the hallucinations. |
| 17:56.33 | kenlyric | hallucinations turn out excellent word count. |
| 17:56.40 | Ellipsis | no no, I have pills for that |
| 17:56.47 | kenlyric | candy is dandy |
| 17:56.57 | Balstor | and maybe it was nictien gum with caffiene crystals, I can't remember thr brand but black-black seems right |
| 17:57.22 | Ellipsis | kenlyric - tell me this isn't nano food: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil |
| 17:57.38 | kenlyric | but you don't get it for halloween |
| 17:57.47 | kenlyric | it does seem useful |
| 17:58.17 | Ellipsis | I get it for asking the men in the white coats very nicely |
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| 17:58.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 17:58.22 | kenlyric | one nano year one my characters randomly took an english lit class so he could write my papers. :) |
| 17:58.32 | Ellipsis | lol |
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| 17:59.06 | Ellipsis | hmm... |
| 17:59.33 | kenlyric | sometimes my chars make shopping lists that are exactly what I need at the store. It's eeeerie |
| 17:59.37 | Ellipsis | the only problem is I don't want to sign up on the nano forums because I know my mom posts there >_> |
| 17:59.56 | Balstor | what is this nano forums? |
| 18:00.06 | kenlyric | http://www.nanowrimo.org/ |
| 18:00.44 | *** join/#wowace snurre (i=snurre@ver78-4-82-244-182-91.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:00.55 | kenlyric | the website doesn't properly convey the terror and wonder that comes in late november. |
| 18:01.23 | CIA-12 | 03jayhawk * r52162 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/PetInfoFu.lua: |
| 18:01.23 | CIA-12 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 18:01.23 | CIA-12 | - updated happiness tracking (beta 3) |
| 18:01.54 | Balstor | my creative writing abilites are what you would expect of a engineer type, |
| 18:02.53 | kenlyric | Balstor: star wars fan fiction? |
| 18:03.10 | kenlyric | as long as you don't let anyone else read it, I'm OK with that. |
| 18:03.39 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52163 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 18:03.39 | CIA-12 | Recount: |
| 18:03.39 | CIA-12 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 18:03.39 | Balstor | ha no if i EVER did fan ficition it would be for Blakes 7 - Star wars is over hyped, reuse stale plot lines |
| 18:04.29 | Balstor | but I did enjoy the first 3 movies never saw the last 3 |
| 18:04.44 | kenlyric | my first nano I did final fantasy 1 fanfic. Which is pretty difficult because the story in the game is kinda... sparse :) |
| 18:05.20 | kenlyric | but yeah, having one char suddenly take an english lit class was somewhat of a stretch. |
| 18:05.37 | kenlyric | <macks> YEAH DUDE I'M SO GANGSTA I HOLD MY LAPTOP SIDEWAYS WHEN I POST FLAMES |
| 18:05.44 | kenlyric | ok, i like that bash |
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| 18:06.27 | Balstor | hahahahahahahah |
| 18:06.42 | Balstor | Quote "A geek physician has reviewed the medical literature that explores if a relationship exists between computer use and carpal tunnel syndrome. " |
| 18:06.43 | Ellipsis | yeah, I lol'ed when I first read that |
| 18:07.15 | Balstor | apply 10% of the ha to gangsta post 90% to the greek |
| 18:11.25 | kenlyric | http://bash.org/?809246 re our earlier conversation |
| 18:12.20 | Ellipsis | sadly, the only truly single player mmo I've found is RuneScape :P |
| 18:12.29 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/wcc-desktop.png 1024x768 |
| 18:12.47 | Arcaia | ~weighted companion cube |
| 18:12.48 | purl | [weighted companion cube] your friend, though you shouldn't listen to his advice, HE IS YOUR FRIEND - do not question the truth! |
| 18:12.48 | kenlyric | it's ok. |
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| 18:12.53 | kenlyric | needs widescreen |
| 18:13.05 | kenlyric | http://www.penny-arcade.com/10_12_07wall.jpg |
| 18:13.35 | Balstor | yhea portal needs a sequel |
| 18:14.09 | kenlyric | katamari had one, so will portal |
| 18:14.10 | bshelden | Balstor: lol, nice |
| 18:14.17 | snurre | portal needs a proper game to use the portals, not just a damn tutorial |
| 18:14.18 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r52164 10Recount/Recount.lua: |
| 18:14.18 | CIA-12 | Recount: |
| 18:14.18 | CIA-12 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 18:14.27 | kenlyric | meh. |
| 18:14.32 | kenlyric | the tutorial is just the start of the game. |
| 18:14.40 | Ellipsis | and it's better than the rest |
| 18:14.41 | kenlyric | but yeah, it needs a game with danger |
| 18:14.43 | Arcaia | snurre: last level? |
| 18:15.02 | Arcaia | and they've already announced more levels to come. |
| 18:15.03 | kenlyric | portals in hl2, of course. |
| 18:15.03 | snurre | oh please, 20mins of non-guided gameplay.. yay |
| 18:15.55 | Arcaia | snurre is just sad he lost his companion cube |
| 18:16.09 | snurre | :p |
| 18:16.10 | Mudkips | hey |
| 18:16.19 | Mudkips | How do you think Crysis is going to fare? |
| 18:16.23 | snurre | ive got the companion cube as a friend on facebook thxyouverymuch |
| 18:16.34 | kenlyric | I know portal has completely owned my life. I see a use for portals every day. |
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| 18:16.42 | snurre | crysis? like doom3, just better graphics and roughly the same gameplay experience |
| 18:16.58 | snurre | it's gonna be more of a engine showcase than proper game imo |
| 18:17.09 | snurre | farcry2 will probably be way better |
| 18:17.11 | kenlyric | engine showcases can be good games. |
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| 18:17.26 | snurre | judging by the demo: not this one |
| 18:17.34 | kenlyric | ah, ok :) |
| 18:17.55 | kenlyric | my computer will barely play bioshock, so I don 't have much hope for crysis. |
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| 18:18.12 | Mudkips | ( kenlyric ) my computer will barely play bioshock, so I don 't have much hope for crysis. |
| 18:18.14 | Mudkips | that's my take on it |
| 18:18.16 | snurre | ut3 and cod4 are hotness tho |
| 18:18.23 | Mudkips | system requirements are too high |
| 18:18.34 | Mudkips | it forces people to upgrade to some ridiculous expensive hardware |
| 18:18.35 | kenlyric | hey, my 6600 is still number one on steam! |
| 18:18.37 | Balstor | yhea your C64 is getting long in the tooth |
| 18:18.41 | snurre | my rig will run all the new games just fine, so im not gonna complain at all :p |
| 18:18.57 | cncfanatics | I can play WoW & thief 3, i'm happy |
| 18:18.59 | kenlyric | it just means it's time for me to upgrade. |
| 18:19.35 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r52165 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: |
| 18:19.35 | CIA-12 | AceTab-3.0: |
| 18:19.35 | CIA-12 | - fixed cycling insertion off by one character |
| 18:19.39 | cncfanatics | I cba, got better things to spend cash on |
| 18:19.43 | kenlyric | it's be nice if I could incrementally upgrade though. |
| 18:19.52 | Mudkips | ( cncfanatics ) I cba, got better things to spend cash on |
| 18:20.05 | snurre | generally you can, unless youre having to change socket generations |
| 18:20.19 | kenlyric | snurre: yup. |
| 18:20.45 | kenlyric | cpu and graphic card and ram. All connect in a fifferent way. |
| 18:20.55 | kenlyric | *different |
| 18:20.58 | cncfanatics | my comp is 4 years old, I can't |
| 18:23.03 | kenlyric | it's like a baby boom. All the computers that got upgraded in 2004 for HL2/Doom3 are starting to need social security. |
| 18:23.10 | kenlyric | is that a mixed metaphor? |
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| 18:25.07 | hoss777 | anyone know anything about the new MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING API in 2.3? |
| 18:25.20 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r52166 10FlexBar2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): FlexBar2: Added the ability to shortcut slashcommands, see the slashcommand reference at the notes section for more information |
| 18:26.30 | Industrial | I need music and animation sauce. Anyone? http://darkwired.org/~Industrial/mooi.swf |
| 18:27.06 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: where do you want feature requests? |
| 18:27.10 | Ellipsis | webserver fails, Industrial |
| 18:27.29 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, wiki talk page |
| 18:29.24 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, linky me when ur done posting there :) |
| 18:31.11 | hoss777 | Hmm. I'm not too sure where to go from here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=EE2A54F398C777FF5C6D4B9372A1AA75?topicId=2366701584&sid=1 |
| 18:32.27 | Ellipsis | hoss777: care to explain what you're looking for? |
| 18:33.26 | hoss777 | Ellipsis: Well I'my trying to figure out what I can do with the new API, if it returns anything or if I have to use another command to get the info |
| 18:33.41 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 18:33.49 | Ellipsis | you mean you want to know what the args for that event are? |
| 18:34.00 | Ellipsis | you might wanna edit your post there to be a bit clearer |
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| 18:34.25 | hoss777 | in better words yes, I'm new to the Wow API |
| 18:34.27 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: I'll have to play around in the sandbox a bit first, before deleting your talk page or something ;) |
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| 18:36.47 | soujeh | Anyone happen to be able to tell me why my commands aren't working in-game ? This is da code: http://cl1p.net/heiboi/ |
| 18:36.49 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, just tell me on irc then lol :p |
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| 18:39.31 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Okay then, here it goes 1. Being able to change size and colour of the text on the buttons. 2. Being able to show how many soul shards I have in my bag on a button 3. Petbar! |
| 18:39.41 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, first 2 are possible |
| 18:39.41 | Toadkiller | cncfanatics: Hey I checked in AutoBarTest under dev tools |
| 18:39.52 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, I'll look into it :) |
| 18:39.57 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Oh, I can? As in now? |
| 18:40.05 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, added it 15 mins ago |
| 18:40.10 | cncfanatics | you can't change the size though, only color |
| 18:40.17 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Doh. Thanks :) |
| 18:40.28 | cncfanatics | and about soul shards |
| 18:40.37 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.45 | cncfanatics | I'll leave the button= & field= arguments to you |
| 18:41.18 | Toadkiller | vhaarr: sup? |
| 18:41.53 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Is there any difference on text and settext? |
| 18:42.20 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, they're aliasses of eachother |
| 18:42.23 | cncfanatics | oh btw |
| 18:42.27 | cncfanatics | (nvm) |
| 18:43.41 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: If we say i have buttons 1-10 and i delete button 8 and 9, will button 10 then become button 8 ? |
| 18:44.24 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, no |
| 18:44.30 | cncfanatics | button names are considered strings |
| 18:44.37 | cncfanatics | you could also name a button bla if you wanted to |
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| 18:44.58 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Oh.. I see. That's fine, I was just wondering. |
| 18:47.07 | CIA-12 | 03chinkuwaila * r52167 10BigBrother/localization_deDE.lua: |
| 18:47.07 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 18:47.07 | CIA-12 | - localization_deDE.lua: wellwell, messed it up myself in the last commit. It's not the flask name which is wrong, but the name shown in the buff tooltip. |
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| 18:53.33 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: If i want my buffdur text to be eg green, i should add what to this command? /fb text button=* field=1 text=$(buffdur) |
| 18:56.04 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: the "Guardian Elixir" and "Battle and Guardian Elixir" buttons do not show up on my autobar |
| 18:56.10 | vhaarr | but the "Battle Elixir" button does |
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| 18:58.40 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: I hacked my way to the answer. It became green at least :) |
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| 19:00.20 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: One final thing. This might be because of Cycircled, but when i mouse over my buttons, the border goes above the text, making the text hard to read. Would it be possible to change the strata or something? |
| 19:02.58 | cncfanatics | it does ? |
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| 19:03.00 | cncfanatics | lemme check |
| 19:03.03 | cncfanatics | doesn't for me as far as I know |
| 19:09.19 | Arcaia | Toadkiller: AutoBar is failng to work for me - at all. |
| 19:11.31 | Arcaia | I get the same error - forever ;P |
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| 19:16.47 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r52168 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism: Bugfix for non-enUS/GB clients. |
| 19:18.55 | Arcaia | Ok. I magically got it fixed, but now it shows blank spaces >.> |
| 19:20.40 | Trell_ | btw, BigWigs_ZA is spot on, thanks ;) |
| 19:20.46 | Trell_ | at least on the bear boss :X |
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| 19:22.08 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r52169 10FlexBar2_HideBorder/ (. FlexBar2_HideBorder.toc HideBorder.lua module.xml): FlexBar2_HideBorder: New module that will hide the 'ugly' button borders when there is an action on them |
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| 19:23.36 | ChiLLabiS | Can somone send me the WowAceUpdater? i cant find it on the http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 19:24.05 | cncfanatics | www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 19:24.41 | ChiLLabiS | ty :) |
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| 19:27.49 | Chompers | http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 19:28.13 | Wogroipl | does WAU or WAU2 remove libs that are not used anymore by an addon? |
| 19:28.34 | Wogroipl | any* |
| 19:29.08 | Cheads | really a shame autobar is so buggy now =8 |
| 19:29.45 | vhaarr | autobar works fine for me except that it fails to show 2 of my buttons |
| 19:29.48 | vhaarr | which isn't really critical |
| 19:30.44 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, if u don't use cycircled could you try out the new HideBorder module ? should make buttons slightly better looking |
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| 19:33.31 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: I'll turn off cycircled and try |
| 19:35.15 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, tell me what u think of it compared to the normal looks (without cyC and without HideBorder) |
| 19:36.14 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather petsouris |
| 19:36.17 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Petsouris, Level 70 Tauren Druid (0/46/15). 8730 HP; 4940 Mana; 123 mana regen; 18 mp5; 948 AP; 130.700 Melee DPS; 16.30% melee crit; 58 melee hit; 45 defense; 23.03% dodge; 15 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1057 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrw876 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34dqel ][ Updated: Mon Oct 15 15:38:36 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:37.20 | bshelden | ooo, I like that bot |
| 19:37.51 | Pkekyo | any feralols able to tell me wether those stats are good or not? (some new offtank) |
| 19:38.16 | Ellipsis | sum durid is bare |
| 19:38.19 | bshelden | are those stats in bear form or caster? |
| 19:38.30 | cncfanatics | cryogen, did kazzak just crash ? |
| 19:39.04 | bshelden | if caster, they're a touch better than mine (Savrine@Maelstrom) and I OT kara |
| 19:40.31 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52170 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins-zhCN.lua): |
| 19:40.31 | CIA-12 | Baggins: |
| 19:40.31 | CIA-12 | - fix zhCN Local |
| 19:41.03 | Trell_ | autobar is fine for me too, except for the fact it seems to keep forgetting my settings |
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| 19:47.18 | NeoTron | "old" one works fine. |
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| 19:48.16 | erb | that was a rude surprise when i updated my mods |
| 19:48.20 | erb | a completely different autobar |
| 19:48.24 | erb | all different settings/etc |
| 19:48.27 | Ellipsis | l2readchangelogs |
| 19:49.05 | erb | yah.. i'll read the change log for every single mod i run when i update them |
| 19:49.11 | erb | easier to just disable the mod |
| 19:49.17 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:49.24 | Ellipsis | I read the code. it's not that much to expect you to read changelogs |
| 19:49.29 | erb | its not anyones fault because like you said its in the change log |
| 19:49.37 | Ellipsis | um |
| 19:49.38 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, liking FB ? :) |
| 19:49.43 | Ellipsis | what's whose fault now? |
| 19:49.49 | kebinusan | I need a weighted companion cube |
| 19:49.58 | erb | not anyone implies no one |
| 19:50.03 | erb | sorry if i was unclear |
| 19:50.07 | Ellipsis | if you're really that upset about the changes, restore from your backup (you did make one, right?) or revert from svn or the files page :/ |
| 19:50.25 | erb | i'll be ok |
| 19:51.11 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Yeah, I do. When I turned off Cycircled i saw the yellow and green borders. That's nice. Are the green borders, for buffs i have on my self, part of standard fb or buffdur? |
| 19:51.51 | CIA-12 | 03archarodim * r52171 10Decursive/localization.cn.lua: |
| 19:51.51 | CIA-12 | Decursive: |
| 19:51.51 | CIA-12 | - Fix syntax problem with localization.cn.lua (THANKS TO CHECK YOUR CHANGES BEFORE COMMITTING THEM) |
| 19:52.40 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, standard fb |
| 19:52.57 | cncfanatics | and also, what skin u using in cyC ? some don't support it unfortunatly (badly coded skins) |
| 19:52.59 | Ellipsis | ~ugt |
| 19:53.00 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 19:53.18 | Toadkiller | arcaia: did you read the first postin the forum thread? |
| 19:53.21 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Would it be possible to change the green border, so that when i target someone, the border would only be green if they had my buff too? |
| 19:53.33 | Arcaia | we have a forum? |
| 19:53.35 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, that'd be a blue border |
| 19:53.43 | cncfanatics | green is on urself, blue if its on ur target |
| 19:53.45 | Hjalte | Oh.. |
| 19:53.45 | cncfanatics | thats already in |
| 19:54.08 | Hjalte | I didnt see that yet. I figure that goes for my dots too then, they will go blue if they are on my target? |
| 19:54.17 | Toadkiller | vhaarr: The number of buttons is quite large now you may need to go to 2 rows x 24 columns... |
| 19:54.32 | Toadkiller | I will update the defaults as well... |
| 19:55.19 | cncfanatics | red actualy |
| 19:55.39 | Kemayo | cncfanatics: flexbar2 is still configured entirely through slashcommands and without and presets, right? |
| 19:55.44 | kaiden | Anyone here ever looked into getting cyCricled working for the petbar? |
| 19:56.03 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: yes but I've unticked "Enabled" on several buttons |
| 19:56.15 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: like 6-7 buttons disabled |
| 19:56.19 | vhaarr | so there should be plenty room |
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| 19:56.22 | Toadkiller | mmm |
| 19:56.40 | Toadkiller | wonder if PT3 got borked |
| 19:56.44 | NeoTron | I think nether vapor clouds is a Kael'thas conspiracy. the little piece of information guilds that killed him keeps secret to avoid other guilds of having an easier time in phase 5.. |
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| 19:58.15 | Toadkiller | no Pt3 is fine. |
| 19:59.05 | cncfanatics | Kemayo, correct |
| 19:59.20 | _rane | is there an addon that notifies with sound when an item's or skill's cooldown has expired? |
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| 20:00.14 | Sirow | rane_:Tried hourglass? (SPOILER: Use Avion :P) |
| 20:00.21 | Kemayo | cncfanatics: Do you plan to add in a gui and/or presets layouts at any point? |
| 20:00.44 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Any way to make a macro where i cast Corruption and have my pet attack act like a normal button so that it has drdamage text on it? I've put #showtooltip in it and it worked in bartender |
| 20:00.49 | _rane | Sirow: err, what |
| 20:01.13 | _rane | i didn't quite understand the spoiler |
| 20:01.54 | Kemayo | _rane: I think OmniCC might have sounds, too. It's been a very long time since I looked at its options, but I think I recall seeing that. |
| 20:01.59 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52172 10SorrenTimers/ (Localization_cn.lua Localization_tw.lua SorrenTimers.toc): |
| 20:01.59 | CIA-12 | SorrenTimers: |
| 20:01.59 | CIA-12 | - Add zhCN Localization |
| 20:01.59 | CIA-12 | - Add zhTW Localization |
| 20:02.12 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, hmmmm, not yet :( |
| 20:02.16 | cncfanatics | wait for 2.3 |
| 20:02.21 | Sirow | Avion can show nasty animations when cooldown expires and with animations there also comes sound (which is afaik atm proken) |
| 20:02.26 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Oh :( Range check also doesnt work for it |
| 20:03.08 | _rane | Sirow: ok, i'll check those addons out |
| 20:03.09 | Pkekyo | fucksake, mongoose is expensive |
| 20:03.38 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, need 2.3 for all that |
| 20:03.53 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: How can bartender do it then? :) |
| 20:04.28 | durcyn | Sirow: PlaySoundFile works in 2.2.3 |
| 20:04.56 | Sirow | durcyn, ah thx, haven't really played in a while *shrgug* :( |
| 20:04.57 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, bartender uses action id's |
| 20:04.58 | cncfanatics | I don't |
| 20:05.06 | cncfanatics | thats also why u can have over 120 actionbuttons |
| 20:05.27 | *** join/#wowace eBait (n=info@martijn-claassen.demon.nl) |
| 20:06.14 | NeoTron | does anyone know if nether vapor is fixed around kael'thas or floats around the room? |
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| 20:08.43 | Funkeh` | hey |
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| 20:12.30 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo: yes it is |
| 20:12.42 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: what is nether vapor? never heard of it before today |
| 20:13.04 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r52173 10FlexBar2/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: Fix nil bug |
| 20:13.43 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: one of these? http://www.wowhead.com/?search=nether+vapor#uncategorized-spells |
| 20:14.56 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=35859 yes |
| 20:15.23 | NeoTron | our tanks keep picking it up so they become unable to tank |
| 20:15.31 | NeoTron | and this is after knowing to "stay away" |
| 20:15.32 | Kain___ | is there anythign like Totemus from Ace? |
| 20:15.39 | NeoTron | one tank clearly did not, the other one claims he did but I didn't notice |
| 20:15.46 | _rane | i fetched Avion, but i don't have any options in the animations |
| 20:15.50 | _rane | is that normal |
| 20:16.15 | Sirow | It's a bit complicated, you have to create some first |
| 20:16.33 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: http://www.wowwiki.com/Kael%27thas_Sunstrider_%28tactics%29 <-- it says right here what it does, under phase 5? |
| 20:16.34 | Sirow | Should be the first option |
| 20:16.43 | _rane | ok, let's see.. |
| 20:18.26 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: what it doesn't say is if it's localized to where Kael'thas is or floats around. guides seems to solely mention "8 yrd radius" of KT |
| 20:18.44 | Gnarfoz | page says: floats around in the air "with you" |
| 20:18.55 | Gnarfoz | I guess that means everywhere? no hands-on experience, though |
| 20:19.20 | _rane | Sirow: what does this actually animate? |
| 20:19.23 | CIA-12 | 03sirow * r52174 10/branches/LibAvion-2.0/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:19.23 | CIA-12 | LibAvion-2.0: (Rewrite of LibAvion-1.0, better API, more dynamic) |
| 20:19.23 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.41 | _rane | i found the sound options, but i don't really get the rest of the stuff |
| 20:19.55 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52175 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Jan'alai: add deDE by Anahid |
| 20:20.57 | Sirow | _rane: Its mainly for this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBTXBVVWmo |
| 20:21.42 | Sirow | If you only want fancy sound, try out OmniCC. |
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| 20:24.07 | Inc` | So... |
| 20:24.24 | Inc` | Anyone know of a mod that I can use that replaces the OOM sound with "We require more vespene gas" ? |
| 20:24.27 | [Liquidor] | What should I do to register an event or similar to react on when this line shows up in the combat log "You gain 300 mana from Restore Mana." |
| 20:24.29 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r52176 10ColaLight/ (ColaLight.toc Core.lua): |
| 20:24.29 | CIA-12 | ColaLight: |
| 20:24.29 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.42 | CIA-12 | 03sirow * r52177 10/branches/LibAvion-2.0/ (LibAvion-2.0/ LibAvion-2.0.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): |
| 20:25.42 | CIA-12 | LibAvion-2.0: |
| 20:25.42 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.51 | _rane | Sirow: hmm, where does one get the textures? |
| 20:26.12 | Sirow | you need AvionDefault/ComicMedia |
| 20:26.18 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: One thing that is funny, is that buffdur works for my macro-button :\ |
| 20:27.22 | cryogen | Hjalte: it will work for whatever texture you have assigned :) |
| 20:27.30 | CIA-12 | 03sirow 07Sirow * r52178 10LibAvion-2.0/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 20:27.30 | CIA-12 | LibAvion-2.0: (Rewrite of LibAvion-1.0, better API, more dynamic) |
| 20:27.30 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.30 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.49 | Hjalte | cryogen, it's not a texture, it's a macro that casts corruption and is named Corruption. |
| 20:28.04 | cryogen | yeah but does it show the corruption icon? |
| 20:28.05 | cncfanatics | the texture isalso the one from corruption ? |
| 20:28.55 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Yeah |
| 20:28.59 | Hjalte | to both |
| 20:29.09 | Fisker- | night boys and hyperChipmunk |
| 20:29.10 | *** join/#wowace Mire (n=Mire@huntersrun-cm-195.usa2net.net) |
| 20:29.15 | Fisker- | and girls |
| 20:29.25 | Fisker- | you see what i did there hyperChipmunk? |
| 20:30.37 | _rane | Sirow: i wasn't able to find anything like that anywhere |
| 20:30.49 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, then highlights shld work & buffdur too |
| 20:31.40 | Sirow | files.wowace.com/AvionDefaultMedia/ |
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| 20:33.34 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Yep, they are :) |
| 20:33.48 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, there's support where its possible for macro's |
| 20:33.53 | cncfanatics | and full support is coming when 2.3 is released |
| 20:35.06 | cncfanatics | (blizz is finaly adding what I need for em :)) |
| 20:35.40 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: will the new border module be on automatically? |
| 20:37.00 | Hjalte | Oh. I see. I have to get it off files :) |
| 20:40.46 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: HideBorder looks nice even though it doesnt really look the same on all my buttons oO |
| 20:42.26 | Balstor | cycircled needs a starcraft skin |
| 20:42.51 | Pkekyo | CyCircled needs a panda skin... |
| 20:42.55 | Pkekyo | ...oh, wait... |
| 20:43.11 | Balstor | the smurf skin is really weak though |
| 20:43.57 | evl | I'm having some problems with my custom party frames showing themselves even after I do UnregisterUnitWatch(frame), any clues? |
| 20:43.58 | Pkekyo | how many skins are there, actually? |
| 20:44.15 | Balstor | maybe 10 unique ones, lots of gloss variations |
| 20:45.59 | Pkekyo | meh...gloss variations annoy me |
| 20:48.19 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Look at the button with keybinding 5 - I've got it mouseover'd with my mouse and as you can see the mouseover hover colour seems to overlap the text from flexbar www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_101507_224402.jpg |
| 20:48.34 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: This is with cycircled on. |
| 20:49.39 | Balstor | what about with cycircle off? |
| 20:50.59 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r52179 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: Fix remapping bug |
| 20:51.08 | Hjalte | Balstor: Then there is no problem :) - I know it's probably cycircleds fault but i think it could be fixed by setting a higher strata on the text or allowing the user to do so. |
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| 20:51.19 | Shinja | Archimonde down |
| 20:51.27 | cncfanatics | will look into it tomorrow |
| 20:51.28 | Mudkips | dude's a bitch |
| 20:51.32 | cncfanatics | feel free to mess with cyCircled's code |
| 20:51.32 | Mudkips | gz |
| 20:51.38 | Shinja | 5 survivors |
| 20:51.41 | Shinja | rofl |
| 20:51.46 | Mudkips | . . . |
| 20:52.01 | *** part/#wowace cncfanatics (i=evolve@248.175-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 20:52.01 | Balstor | sigh i'm still stuck at kael'thas /cry |
| 20:52.12 | Shinja | it's our first kill |
| 20:52.34 | kaiden | hey hjalte, i just wanted to let you know that you may want to call a gardener |
| 20:52.39 | kaiden | ;) |
| 20:52.55 | Hjalte | kaiden, huh? |
| 20:53.06 | kaiden | those weeds are running rampant |
| 20:53.17 | Hjalte | Hah.. |
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| 20:59.04 | syeren | Does anyone here have any experience in making custom Assesment Tables? |
| 20:59.34 | Balstor | Portal Weighted Companion Cube Papercraft http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/10/15/portal-weighted-comp.html |
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| 21:01.59 | _rane | i don't see omnicc having a feature that plays a sound when cooldown vanishes.. |
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| 21:09.13 | dylanm | _rane: Nope, it's mainly concerned with the icons. Best to look to some of the SCT mods for that sort of thing. |
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| 21:14.52 | _rane | SCT mods? |
| 21:15.36 | Hjalte | _rane: Parrot, SCT, MSBT etc. |
| 21:15.41 | dylanm | Well, not just those. A lot of mods are solely for alerting you about cooldowns in various ways. |
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| 21:18.04 | _rane | i didn't realize it's this difficult to find an addon that does it |
| 21:18.32 | CIA-12 | 03grum * r52180 10Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: |
| 21:18.32 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 21:18.32 | CIA-12 | - 'Enter' is no longer required on setting the new route name (ckknight updated LibRockConfig - ty!) |
| 21:18.32 | CIA-12 | - Updated db defaults where occasionally you would hit a nil-comparison on adding a new node. |
| 21:19.13 | Antiarc | We killed Kael last night. :D |
| 21:19.37 | cladhaire | Antiarc: grats! |
| 21:20.36 | dylanm | _rane: Not difficult, really. There are just a lot of choices :p |
| 21:21.08 | Chompers | nice work Antiarc |
| 21:21.09 | dylanm | _rane: Do you use a combat text mod of any sort? |
| 21:21.11 | Chompers | tough fight? |
| 21:21.15 | _rane | i have SCT |
| 21:21.39 | durcyn | kael's one of the most intricate encounters in the game, save perhaps for illidan |
| 21:22.02 | Grum | grats Antiarc :D |
| 21:22.27 | Antiarc | Yeah, it's a really tough fight. |
| 21:22.59 | charon | gz Antiarc |
| 21:23.26 | charon | now i feel bad for bothering you :( but did you get last night's message? |
| 21:23.59 | Chompers | gimme 6 months and kael'll be mine :P |
| 21:24.19 | dylanm | _rane: SCT_cooldowns is on files.wowace and it may do what you want... I don't use the mod so I'm not entirely sure |
| 21:24.33 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_101507_170819.jpg ;P |
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| 21:25.02 | _rane | i just want sound alerts when certain cooldowns vanish |
| 21:25.25 | dylanm | Well, right. But there isn't an astounding amount of documentation out there for a lot of the mods on there. |
| 21:25.34 | Arcaia | jims cooldown pulse |
| 21:25.36 | dylanm | So I really don't know :p |
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| 21:25.43 | Arcaia | _rane : jims cooldown pulse ;P |
| 21:26.21 | Arcaia | _rane: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4511 |
| 21:26.26 | Trell_ | _rane: I switched to Parrot from SCT, which gives scrolling customisable displays when a spell/ability is ready, not sure if you can apply sounds ot it too |
| 21:26.30 | dylanm | There's one. |
| 21:26.32 | Trell_ | *to |
| 21:26.42 | CIA-12 | 03clovenhoof * r52181 10RootsBidder/RootsBidder.lua: |
| 21:26.42 | CIA-12 | RootsBidder: |
| 21:26.42 | CIA-12 | -Corrected yet another Typo |
| 21:27.04 | Chompers | Antiarc: does al'ar give you any problems? |
| 21:27.32 | Antiarc | Not really, no |
| 21:27.40 | |Stan| | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/october/nahjmaabj.jpg <- need |
| 21:28.16 | dylanm | Oh my |
| 21:28.18 | _rane | Arcaia: thanks, i'll try that one |
| 21:28.21 | dylanm | Does it really have to be that wide :p |
| 21:31.25 | Orionshock | |Stan|: yes i think we all want that |
| 21:33.41 | tinyboom | bah, is sharedmedia borked? trying to add my custom fonts and they don't show up anymore...... and they worked fine about 2 weeks ago.... |
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| 21:34.23 | Hjalte | tinyboom, are you having WAU delete your folder when updating? |
| 21:34.43 | tinyboom | always:p but I have a backup which I re-add :p |
| 21:35.09 | *** join/#wowace Batos (n=Batos@193.69.144.170) |
| 21:35.10 | tinyboom | which means mymedia.lua and the mymedia folder.... |
| 21:35.27 | Hjalte | Yeah, me too. |
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| 21:37.35 | tinyboom | also wondering why clearfont doesn't pick up the sharedmedia fonts, that's just bleh.... |
| 21:38.26 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r52182 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Group debuff updates |
| 21:38.30 | Orionshock | tinyboom: prolly for fear of overlap |
| 21:39.41 | tinyboom | Orionshock: teamwork/co-operation? oh well, gonna find out what went TU tomorrow :p |
| 21:40.16 | Orionshock | i was guessing ?>.> |
| 21:40.34 | tinyboom | so I guessed ;) |
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| 21:41.14 | Orionshock | tbh CF2 should first import all it's fonts into SML, then pull the full list of fonts from SML.... that would work better |
| 21:42.28 | Kirkburn | Someone wants to edit it, fine by me (so long as it works, of course :P ) |
| 21:44.15 | Orionshock | Kirkburn: ? u author of CF2? |
| 21:44.20 | Kirkburn | yup |
| 21:44.25 | tinyboom | if I knew how to code :) |
| 21:44.36 | Orionshock | im smart ... but not enough to do that :D |
| 21:44.49 | Kirkburn | So that's us all in the same boat then ;) |
| 21:46.22 | tinyboom | nice, icky hack worked:p just added the fonts to sharedmedia.lua:p oh well, will do until I find out what's wrong:) |
| 21:46.27 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r52183 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Final Mangle bug fix (hopefully) |
| 21:46.27 | tinyboom | good night folks:) |
| 21:50.41 | *** join/#wowace Celandro (n=Celandro@64.172.210.141) |
| 21:52.19 | Celandro | If someone could merge in the default=no-sync patch for recount into the SVN that would be great. It seems that recount syncs disconnect people on bad connections |
| 21:53.05 | Balstor | bad connections == wireless modems |
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| 21:54.00 | Celandro | its really inconvienent that other people in your guild using recount can disconnect you. there is nothing some of these people can do to prevent it |
| 21:54.32 | Balstor | would still lay money their on wirless modems, discovered that during naxx |
| 21:54.43 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r52184 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Reorder substitution method and shorten substitutions to 2 letters rather than 4. |
| 21:55.11 | Balstor | and if their connections are that bad they srsly shouldn't be in the raid |
| 21:55.18 | Celandro | well, the more people in your guild using recount, the more data is synced to everyone in the raid (even those without recount) |
| 21:55.27 | Mudkips | wait |
| 21:55.33 | Mudkips | when did recount start syncing? |
| 21:55.48 | Celandro | cyrect put it in about a month before he disappeared |
| 21:55.53 | Celandro | with no option to disable it |
| 21:56.19 | Celandro | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9270.0 is what im referring to btw |
| 21:56.34 | Balstor | according to the patch notes he disabled it 3 chekin ago |
| 21:56.48 | Celandro | is this in the last 3 days? |
| 21:57.50 | Balstor | Recount - Friendly Damage syncing is disabled due to an unknown issue for the moment |
| 21:58.01 | Balstor | r47034 | cryect | 2007-08-20 21:45:10 -0400 (Mon, 20 Aug 2007) | 1 line |
| 21:58.18 | Celandro | that wasnt all syncing though |
| 21:58.54 | Balstor | and he is using chatthrottle lib to, so i would say your guildies just have shitty computers |
| 21:59.18 | Celandro | im not the only one complaining |
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| 22:02.08 | Celandro | anyhow, I just wanted to relay the problem and ask that someone merge in the change to allow people to disable syncing completetely (and preferably disable it by default) |
| 22:02.47 | Celandro | the problem with chatthrottle is that it only throttles the sender, it doesnt prevent 25 senders from sending the max simultaneously |
| 22:03.55 | Balstor | i went through this entire thing with damage meters and thaddius, and every last case my guild had came down to someone on a wireless modem |
| 22:04.12 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.25 | Balstor | motale of the story, get rid of wireless modems cause theur drivers are crap |
| 22:04.40 | NeoTron | seems like it slowly moves across the battlefield, starting on Kael'thas. How it moves (i.e targeted or randomly) I don't know |
| 22:05.04 | NeoTron | but moral of this story is to don't stand still near Kael'thas, but keep on swimming. |
| 22:05.06 | Balstor | NeoTron I hope to have to worry about it shortly |
| 22:05.36 | Balstor | were still haveing issues getting all the weapons down fast enough |
| 22:06.42 | Celandro | balstor: regardless, syncing for damage meters should not be the default if your syncing method is bandwidth intensive (which recount is). Every time someone updates something in recount, and i run wowaceupdater it takes out my manual fix for the syncing. While this isnt a problem for me, I cant get the 10 other people in my guild using recount to be that vigilant |
| 22:07.22 | Celandro | and i cant boot our only shaman who only has issues due to other peoples mods |
| 22:07.25 | kebinusan | We start out melee on mace, ranged on bow, then aoe the weapons till the staff/mace dies then everyone single targets the daggers, melee to swords casters to shield, and normally only have the axe up at phase 3 Blowing heroisms and such for the aoe is good stuffs too |
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| 22:08.12 | Funkeh` | Celandro, So use a different addon? |
| 22:08.31 | kebinusan | our biggest problem was getting all the aoe to not run up and loot as the staff died |
| 22:09.20 | TecnoBrat | Celandro, don't boot your shaman.. just tell him to not use wireless imo |
| 22:09.31 | Celandro | funkeh: the problem is that User A who is using recount is disconnecting User B, and there is nothing User b can do about it |
| 22:09.44 | Celandro | its not User A disconnecting himself |
| 22:10.06 | Celandro | its really Users A-K all sending 4KBps to user Z and disconnecting him |
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| 22:11.01 | hyperChipmunk | obviously the solution is to not be user Z |
| 22:11.05 | Celandro | sure |
| 22:11.10 | Celandro | the problem is user z is our only shaman |
| 22:11.22 | Celandro | and users a-k can fix the problem by manually fixing their addon |
| 22:11.23 | hyperChipmunk | gotta flood those A-K jerks out before they get you! |
| 22:11.27 | Celandro | but it keeps getting unfixed |
| 22:11.43 | Celandro | because the mod author is /afk |
| 22:12.01 | Celandro | and the person who wrote the patch doesnt have SVN access |
| 22:13.21 | Recluse | is there an addon that un-shapeshifts you (like druid/shaman) when you talk to a flight master? (like the auto-dismount stuff) |
| 22:13.59 | charon | i have one, though i don't really know which one, might be Automaton |
| 22:14.14 | Funkeh` | Celandro, the mod author has stopped development, so the mod will die eventually |
| 22:14.16 | Recluse | hmm |
| 22:14.23 | Antiarc | I use Assessment, and have encouraged our other raiders to do the same. |
| 22:14.29 | Funkeh` | Celandro, there are lots of other damage meters out there |
| 22:14.32 | Celandro | i like pretty pictures |
| 22:14.37 | Funkeh` | like Assessment indeed |
| 22:14.40 | Celandro | nothing replaces recount currently |
| 22:14.44 | Celandro | yes assessment is close |
| 22:14.54 | Celandro | but its deliberately designed not to replace recount |
| 22:15.07 | Recluse | whats it do? |
| 22:15.12 | Celandro | graphs |
| 22:15.13 | Recluse | oh oh |
| 22:15.15 | Celandro | is the main difference |
| 22:15.22 | Recluse | i swear i can read XD |
| 22:15.54 | weab | Recluse: automaton should work for that. |
| 22:16.01 | Funkeh` | WWS does graphs? |
| 22:16.07 | Celandro | nope |
| 22:16.12 | Celandro | not the same |
| 22:16.19 | Celandro | not even close to the same |
| 22:16.53 | Recluse | charon, weab: okay, i'll give that one a try |
| 22:17.07 | Funkeh` | Celandro, But your problem is others, not you, so maybe they would be satisfied without graphs |
| 22:17.15 | Celandro | funk: if you havent looked at recount, you should, just to see just how much it does |
| 22:17.31 | Recluse | i have something that auto-dismounts, but no clue what it is. got so used to it, leveling a druid now drives me nuts |
| 22:17.57 | weab | default ui does auto dismount now |
| 22:18.25 | Funkeh` | Celandro, I looked at the code in Recount and said no thanks, I didn't need to instal it |
| 22:18.29 | Kemayo | weab: But not auto de-shapeshift. |
| 22:18.38 | weab | right. |
| 22:18.39 | Celandro | i meant the graphlib stuff |
| 22:18.46 | Kemayo | weab: Ah, right. Misinturpreted the context. |
| 22:19.11 | Funkeh` | I've looked at graphlib also and its CPU usage is something I can live without |
| 22:19.30 | Celandro | depends on your cpu |
| 22:20.08 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@c51470eec.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 22:20.10 | Celandro | but sure, using an addon to generate graphs isnt going to be the most efficient thing ever :) |
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| 22:20.58 | Funkeh` | Celandro, I never said it did, but I don't need graphs for anything apart from entertainment, and the game provides enough of that. |
| 22:21.14 | Recluse | funny thing is the moonglade druid-only FP will unshapeshift automatically... but it steals all your buffs in the process T_T |
| 22:21.22 | Funkeh` | The information I need to improve my play can easily be extracted from WWS or assessment |
| 22:21.28 | NeoTron | I wish WWS has graphs like Recount |
| 22:22.06 | Celandro | i had a vision of creating a WWS that took recount.lua's |
| 22:22.13 | NeoTron | imho graphs often are helpful in my raid leadership tasks |
| 22:22.15 | Celandro | then i realized my wife would kill me |
| 22:22.24 | Celandro | if i spent that much time making it work |
| 22:22.32 | Recluse | WWS lets you host your own stats? if so, you could create the graphs yourself w/something like php+gd? |
| 22:22.46 | NeoTron | well |
| 22:22.49 | Celandro | WWS hosting is too expensive |
| 22:22.50 | NeoTron | it's just a combat log parser |
| 22:22.57 | NeoTron | it has an intermediate xml format |
| 22:23.04 | NeoTron | that you can parse to your own delight |
| 22:23.08 | Recluse | right |
| 22:23.15 | NeoTron | Celandro: ... most expensive is $9 / 3 months no? |
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| 22:23.27 | Kemayo | ~xml |
| 22:23.28 | purl | XML is like violence: if it's not working, you aren't using enough of it |
| 22:23.36 | Celandro | still too much |
| 22:23.38 | Corgan | loll |
| 22:23.38 | Kemayo | Hm, not the one I was hoping for. |
| 22:23.52 | Celandro | for the 1 minute of cpu time a month id be using |
| 22:24.08 | NeoTron | Celandro: it CAN be used for free you know :P |
| 22:24.14 | Celandro | yeah and i do |
| 22:24.39 | NeoTron | we have months worth of combat logs |
| 22:24.41 | snowflake | hi i got a question concerning dogtags...is it possible to begin a new line with it? |
| 22:24.41 | NeoTron | every single raid |
| 22:24.42 | snowflake | made a pitbull layout and want the infos about my target displayed in 3 lines |
| 22:24.54 | NeoTron | it has been useful at times when learning a boss |
| 22:25.28 | NeoTron | although the 99 kael'thas wipes we have are a bit depressing |
| 22:25.31 | Celandro | i learned that our shadow priest is not only fat in real life, he is also fat inside of WoW. only explanation for how bad he is at dodgeball |
| 22:25.57 | NeoTron | ... |
| 22:26.08 | NeoTron | Lies. WoW doesn't have "fat" toons |
| 22:26.25 | Celandro | fat toons get hit by orbs 3 times in 15 seconds |
| 22:26.46 | Kemayo | ~xml |
| 22:26.47 | purl | Some people, when confronted with a problem, think 'I know, I'll use XML.' Now they have two problems. |
| 22:26.49 | snowflake | help is very much appreciated sorry for my bad english skills |
| 22:26.52 | Kemayo | Better! |
| 22:27.44 | NeoTron | my favorite use of XML is when ppl think "ah I should use XML to make it portable" |
| 22:28.07 | NeoTron | and proceed to do something like <data><entry>BINARYBLOB</entry><entry>BINARYBLOB</entry></data> |
| 22:28.18 | NeoTron | instead of BINARYBLOB\0BINARYBLOB\0 or something |
| 22:28.22 | Kemayo | See also MS Office XML? |
| 22:28.39 | NeoTron | wouldn't surprise me |
| 22:28.44 | NeoTron | although I haven't looked at it |
| 22:28.49 | snowflake | please help me :( |
| 22:29.02 | Kemayo | I recall hearing that's what it was like, but I haven't ever checked personally. |
| 22:29.14 | Celandro | neo: thats how some of our database tables are |
| 22:29.16 | Kemayo | snowflake: Have you tried including "\n" (without the quotes)? |
| 22:29.32 | Kemayo | snowflake: I don't actually know if that would work... but it's worth a try. |
| 22:29.43 | snowflake | no i will try..mom ;) |
| 22:29.55 | Kemayo | Le sigh. |
| 22:29.59 | weab | does using that in chat still crash wow |
| 22:30.23 | weab | guess not |
| 22:30.26 | weab | that's a shame |
| 22:30.55 | snowflake | not working :( |
| 22:31.13 | NeoTron | Celandro: ah nice "DATA" binary blob columns? |
| 22:31.21 | NeoTron | or even better, a column with XML in it? :) |
| 22:31.53 | Celandro | should be a column with xml data in it that has a binary blob in it |
| 22:31.56 | Celandro | that would be better |
| 22:32.01 | NeoTron | much |
| 22:32.15 | Celandro | our 'settings' table is a serialized java map |
| 22:32.28 | NeoTron | ... |
| 22:32.36 | NeoTron | how about having, err. .. never mind |
| 22:32.41 | NeoTron | we have a similar table here |
| 22:32.49 | Celandro | fixing peoples settings in a batch way is a bcp out, hexedit, bcp in affair |
| 22:32.51 | Celandro | good fun |
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| 22:33.03 | Kemayo | snowflake: It is probably the case that pitbull's fontstrings enforce being one line. I don't know enough about hacking Pitbul lto be helpful... so I'd recommend posting to the pitbull thread on the wowace forums with details of what you want to do, and hopefully someone there can help you. |
| 22:33.24 | Kemayo | snowflake: Your alternative is hanging out here and bugging ckknight. He's generally busy, though. :D |
| 22:35.02 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r52185 10Tattle/ (23 files in 23 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
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| 22:36.02 | Comxx | bugging ckknight is always fun =) |
| 22:36.11 | ckknight | not for me |
| 22:36.19 | Comxx | lol |
| 22:36.37 | weab | you love it. |
| 22:37.06 | snowflake | ckknight would you please answer my question quickly? |
| 22:37.32 | ckknight | what's your question? |
| 22:37.53 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r52186 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Jan'alai.lua Malacrass.lua): |
| 22:37.53 | CIA-12 | .ZulAman : |
| 22:37.53 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 22:37.56 | snowflake | how can i begin a new line using dogtags? |
| 22:37.57 | weab | he wants a newline in pitbull |
| 22:38.08 | snowflake | http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot101607003632ru1.jpg here is my problem |
| 22:38.26 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r52187 10BigWigs/Outland/Doomwalker.lua: |
| 22:38.27 | CIA-12 | .Outland : |
| 22:38.27 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 22:38.35 | ckknight | you don't, snowflake |
| 22:38.43 | snowflake | i want a new line before and after my chars name "Zourmyth" i checked the wiki but didnt find it |
| 22:38.51 | ckknight | you make a new fontstring |
| 22:39.04 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r52188 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 22:39.04 | CIA-12 | .Babble-Boss-2.2 : |
| 22:39.04 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 22:40.55 | snowflake | hmm and where to "anchor" it? i can only make 1 fontstring at the middle of the blank space |
| 22:41.17 | snowflake | if i got it right what a fontstring is |
| 22:42.39 | Gnarfoz | yay, wasted enought time doing random stuff to have enough Heroes episodes piled up again to watch 2 or 3 ^^ |
| 22:44.12 | NeoTron | I'm impressed with the speed ZA support (even if it's rudimentary) has been added to bigwigs |
| 22:44.30 | Funkeh` | Its done |
| 22:44.34 | Funkeh` | As far as I'm concerned |
| 22:44.38 | Gnarfoz | not all addon devs are stuck on low level chars like ckk ;) |
| 22:45.06 | Funkeh` | The rest is bugfixing if theres any left, and possible enrage timers |
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| 22:45.21 | Pkekyo | anyone able to get onto the wow eu forums? |
| 22:45.38 | Gnarfoz | I don't even care to go there, they're a waste of time anyway ^^ |
| 22:46.06 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: well it's hot |
| 22:46.20 | NeoTron | we've failed to get to ZA due to PTR server crapping out and normal scheduled raids |
| 22:46.27 | snowflake | heres my whole project i want to port my DUF layout to pitbull....one big problem i still have are the buffframes...a friend of mine recommended me to use buffalo2 in combination with pitbull...what is your advice ckknight? |
| 22:46.37 | snowflake | http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot101507182923su2.jpg |
| 22:46.45 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, Yeah its been bad for copys though |
| 22:46.49 | Funkeh` | Always down |
| 22:47.10 | Funkeh` | The only time I could find to actually copy my char was at about 2 am |
| 22:47.18 | ckknight | probably, snowflake |
| 22:47.43 | snowflake | and sorry i didnt understand that fontstring thing :( |
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| 22:49.14 | charon | doing mana tombs heroic (all clothies!) with warrior/feral(me)/enhancement shammy/hunter/resto druid |
| 22:49.17 | charon | huge crits <3 |
| 22:49.19 | snowflake | well thx 4 your answers i will bug my friend tomorrow :> |
| 22:49.33 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 22:51.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Punkie`afk: you around? |
| 22:52.37 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r52189 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 22:52.37 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0: |
| 22:52.37 | CIA-12 | English translations for 2.3 tracking items: Find Fish, Battlemasters, Ammunition, etc. |
| 22:57.20 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52190 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Halazzi.lua): BigWigs: Zul'Aman/Halazzi: % HP |
| 23:01.29 | NeoTron | anyone made a map of Zul'Aman yet ? |
| 23:02.23 | Kemayo | I'm curious -- has anyone found out whether Track Fish can drop by fishing anywhere, or whether you need to (say) be in Outland for it? |
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| 23:03.14 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.50 | Balstor | it's a book |
| 23:04.00 | NightHawkTheSane | YOU'RE a book |
| 23:04.00 | NeoTron | it's a book! |
| 23:04.05 | durcyn | it only requires 100 fishing |
| 23:04.09 | Toadkiller | You get it from a crate or scroll case or something while fishing |
| 23:04.11 | durcyn | so probably anywhere |
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| 23:06.20 | Pkekyo | how to set up mstsc? |
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| 23:12.28 | CIA-12 | 03tazmanyak * r52191 10FuBar_ProfessionsFu/Locale-frFR.lua: |
| 23:12.28 | CIA-12 | FuBar_ProfessionsFu |
| 23:12.29 | CIA-12 | Corrected Locale-frFR.lua |
| 23:13.05 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: are you here? |
| 23:13.11 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 23:13.33 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: could you add and rename something to SharedMedia? |
| 23:13.49 | [gk]Hotphoenix | [2007/10/15 23:05:06-1111-x1]: Cartographer_Mining\addon.lua:122: attempt to index global 'Cartographer' (a nil value) < happening to herbalism as well |
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| 23:14.16 | |Stan| | there's a font in there that's called BigNoodleTilting |
| 23:14.28 | |Stan| | the problem is, SharedMedia has the italic version |
| 23:14.49 | |Stan| | so could you please rename the existing font and add the normal one? |
| 23:15.12 | Funkeh` | er |
| 23:15.20 | Funkeh` | Give me the normal one, and the name of the italic one |
| 23:15.42 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: www.stantown.de/wow/BigNoodleTiltingNormal.ttf |
| 23:15.53 | |Stan| | normal one is called BigNoodleTilting.ttf |
| 23:15.56 | |Stan| | eeh |
| 23:15.57 | |Stan| | italic |
| 23:16.53 | Funkeh` | I'm confused, the Italic one is called BigNoodleTilting? Then what needs changed? |
| 23:17.40 | |Stan| | well I would rename BigNoodleTilting to BigNoodleTiltingItalic and add BigNoodleTiltingNormal |
| 23:17.59 | |Stan| | just for consistency |
| 23:18.21 | Funkeh` | If its called that on the fon't then I'm not changing it |
| 23:18.28 | Funkeh` | Keep the official names |
| 23:18.40 | |Stan| | well someone named it wrong |
| 23:18.49 | |Stan| | but you could atleast add the one I linked |
| 23:20.00 | chexsum | retadins are ridicuous in 2.3 |
| 23:20.20 | chexsum | 4k crusader strike crit through 500 resilience and 4k armor |
| 23:21.12 | fitz__ | a well geared retadin is something to fear already |
| 23:21.35 | chexsum | mage got a 7.5k crit on someone too |
| 23:21.42 | Hallucinosis | lol |
| 23:21.45 | NivFreak | chexsum: is crusader strike mitgated by armor? |
| 23:21.52 | Hallucinosis | what, in full PvE gear? |
| 23:22.01 | Hallucinosis | against someone in the same |
| 23:22.06 | chexsum | probably it wasnt me he done it on |
| 23:22.14 | fitz__ | nivfreak, Crusader Strike is Physical |
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| 23:22.18 | fitz__ | so yes, it's mitigated by armor |
| 23:22.20 | NivFreak | it's holy I thought |
| 23:22.21 | chexsum | im not sure if it is or not |
| 23:22.25 | Arrowmaster | well from a google search and ignoring everything WoW related it looks like theres a font named just BigNoodleTilting and it isnt italic |
| 23:22.27 | fitz__ | not according to wowhead, it isn't |
| 23:22.59 | chexsum | well 25% reduction via resilience and 10% reduction via talents so if i was naked it would have been a 6k crit |
| 23:23.08 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: ^^ |
| 23:23.37 | chexsum | they can soc, white, crusader for 5k easilly - no crits |
| 23:23.39 | NivFreak | chexsum: that's a 3K normal hit then |
| 23:23.46 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r52192 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (5 files): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 23:23.47 | NivFreak | if it's physical |
| 23:24.02 | chexsum | its ridiculous damage |
| 23:24.24 | chexsum | priests are obsolete in pvp next patch |
| 23:24.42 | NivFreak | it's ok |
| 23:24.50 | NivFreak | 5 man hunter teams will be on top |
| 23:24.51 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:24.59 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`, |Stan|: check google, that font name seems misspelled |
| 23:25.01 | NightHawkTheSane | didn't priests say that last patch too? |
| 23:25.20 | chexsum | were weaker than felguards atm |
| 23:25.32 | charon | back up with arena statistics please |
| 23:25.34 | chexsum | just better than water elementals |
| 23:25.38 | charon | cause last i remember priests were doing fine |
| 23:25.39 | |Stan| | Arrowmaster: that's what I said! The original font has the wrong name |
| 23:25.45 | NightHawkTheSane | you also whine more than warlocks |
| 23:25.54 | Arrowmaster | |Stan|: you misspelled it too! |
| 23:26.24 | Arrowmaster | its BigNoodleTitling not BigNoodleTilting |
| 23:26.49 | Arrowmaster | unless BigNoodleTilting is the italic version |
| 23:26.54 | |Stan| | hm |
| 23:27.00 | charon | (druids, on the other hand, have a strictly decreasing part in 5v5 as arena goes up, culminating in a whopping 1.1% at 2300+, i'd link if the eu forums weren't down) |
| 23:27.08 | charon | s/arena/rating/ |
| 23:27.09 | |Stan| | the one included in SharedMedia is the italic one Arrowmaster |
| 23:27.21 | |Stan| | Arrowmaster: and the one I linked is the normal one |
| 23:27.30 | NivFreak | I hate arena on my priest |
| 23:27.35 | NivFreak | mostly because I have shitty stam |
| 23:27.39 | NivFreak | and not much resil |
| 23:27.45 | Arrowmaster | |Stan|: and when i google for BigNoodleTilting almost everything i get is wow related, when i google for BigNoodleTitling i actually get font websites |
| 23:27.45 | NivFreak | so I just blow up |
| 23:27.51 | NivFreak | the gates open, and I expload |
| 23:27.57 | NivFreak | it's rather messy |
| 23:28.18 | chexsum | ~c us barthilas chamberlaine |
| 23:28.25 | |Stan| | Arrowmaster: that means the one in SharedMedia has to be renamed and that someone made a spelling mistake when he introduced the font to SharedMedia |
| 23:28.34 | chexsum | !c us barthilas chamberlaine |
| 23:28.38 | ThraeBot | chexsum: Chamberlaine, Level 70 Undead Priest (20/0/41). 9431 HP; 8355 Mana; 133 mana regen; 20 mp5; 39 spell crit; 28 spell hit; 736 +spell dmg/heal; 5.14% dodge; 429 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1162 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28y8nn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33avsm ][ Updated: Mon Oct 15 19:30:58 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:28.45 | Arrowmaster | the "BigNoodleTitling" is not italic though |
| 23:29.01 | chexsum | i die in seconds with that gear/spec |
| 23:29.03 | NivFreak | I won't even link mine |
| 23:29.04 | charon | i could care less about arena if the best pve dps weapon wasn't the merciless gladiator's maul :( not that i care enough to do arena anyway |
| 23:29.06 | NivFreak | it's terrible |
| 23:29.07 | NivFreak | (my alt) |
| 23:29.22 | chexsum | normally m disc/holy with 495 resilience |
| 23:30.49 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: http://de.fontstock.net/5041/BigNoodleTitling-Oblique.html that seems to be the original one that has be in SharedMedia |
| 23:31.27 | Arrowmaster | thats italic? |
| 23:31.35 | |Stan| | nope |
| 23:31.49 | Arrowmaster | is the one in sharedmedia really italic? |
| 23:31.54 | |Stan| | yes |
| 23:32.17 | Arrowmaster | http://www.fontstock.net/5040/BigNoodleTitling.html |
| 23:32.53 | Arrowmaster | http://www.fontstock.net/index.php/0/bignoodle%20italic.html?p=search&page=0&searchtext=bignoodle |
| 23:32.58 | Arrowmaster | ^^ i cant tell the difference |
| 23:33.09 | *** part/#wowace Celandro (n=Celandro@64.172.210.141) |
| 23:33.22 | |Stan| | wierd |
| 23:33.43 | |Stan| | but the one in SharedMedia is italic |
| 23:34.01 | Arrowmaster | which i cant find on any font website |
| 23:34.11 | |Stan| | maybe a modded one? |
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| 23:34.21 | Arrowmaster | if it is then it should be removed |
| 23:35.01 | Arrowmaster | until its found out where it came from and if the creator had premission to make it |
| 23:35.04 | |Stan| | hm when I open the one from SharedMedia, the title says "BigNoodleTitling Oblique" |
| 23:35.14 | Arrowmaster | wah |
| 23:35.43 | |Stan| | and when I open the one I linked i.e. the normal one it says just "BigNoodleTitling" |
| 23:35.51 | |Stan| | so Oblique means Italic |
| 23:36.05 | Dezzimal | is there anyone here that uses autobar? |
| 23:36.06 | Arrowmaster | download the oblique one from that website |
| 23:36.17 | Arrowmaster | see if it looks italic when you open it |
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| 23:36.50 | Speeddymon | anyone know if the copy from > other option can be used to copy profiles from a character on same acct, but diff realm, and if yes, what you type to do it? |
| 23:37.43 | |Stan| | Arrowmaster: yup, confirmed. the oblique one from the website is italic |
| 23:37.53 | Arrowmaster | ok so the sites images are just screwy |
| 23:37.53 | Dezzimal | The setup for autobar is completely un-intuitive and non-working at the moment it seems :/ |
| 23:38.03 | |Stan| | so we need to rename the current font to oblique |
| 23:38.06 | |Stan| | and add the normal one |
| 23:38.11 | Arrowmaster | and fix the spelling error |
| 23:38.21 | Arrowmaster | Tilting to Titling |
| 23:38.23 | NightHawkTheSane | |Stan|: in terms of typography, "Oblique" is not precisely the same as "Italic", however they are quite similar in practice. |
| 23:38.25 | |Stan| | yup |
| 23:38.36 | |Stan| | NightHawkTheSane: but it looks italic |
| 23:38.49 | |Stan| | but it will be named "Oblique" so that doesn't matter |
| 23:39.19 | NightHawkTheSane | |Stan|: like i said, oblique and italic often look similar. It's a subtle difference, and often very semantic. |
| 23:39.32 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: come back its been solved |
| 23:39.56 | |Stan| | NightHawkTheSane: ok :) |
| 23:40.51 | Funkeh` | It has? |
| 23:40.57 | Funkeh` | How much agility = 1ap? |
| 23:41.15 | Arrowmaster | 1 |
| 23:41.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: 1 for cats, hunters, and rogues |
| 23:41.25 | Arrowmaster | 0 for everybody else |
| 23:41.57 | NightHawkTheSane | |Stan|: If you want to get into the typographical nerditry regarding it, an Italics version of a font is usually specially designed to have a more slanted and flowing form, based on calligraphic handwriting. Entirely different glyphs are often used. Oblique is simply taking the standard font and -slanting- the letters. |
| 23:42.06 | Funkeh` | So why do I have 100 agility and it says increases attack power by 90 |
| 23:42.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: o_0 class? |
| 23:42.41 | Funkeh` | rogue |
| 23:43.09 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: the BigNoodleTilting.ttf in sharedmedia should be BigNoodleTitling-Oblique.ttf |
| 23:43.10 | |Stan| | NightHawkTheSane: ok got it |
| 23:43.21 | [gk]Hotphoenix | someone that works on cartographer around? |
| 23:43.25 | NightHawkTheSane | weird. Does it display the AP as if it was 90 ap or 100? |
| 23:43.32 | [gk]Hotphoenix | or the profession addons at least |
| 23:43.34 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: and please add http://www.fontstock.net/5040/BigNoodleTitling.html |
| 23:44.13 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: and note the Tilting to Titling spelling change |
| 23:44.16 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane, 206 AP from other things |
| 23:44.24 | Funkeh` | okay |
| 23:44.38 | chexsum | funkeh do you have talents that increase agility ? |
| 23:45.12 | Funkeh` | chexsum, nope |
| 23:45.22 | Funkeh` | unless the dodge/etc talents count as agil |
| 23:45.24 | Recluse | the other agi is 'base' agi? |
| 23:45.36 | Funkeh` | Possibly |
| 23:45.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: no, they don't. |
| 23:45.44 | Funkeh` | But why wouldn't that get converted to ap? |
| 23:46.13 | NightHawkTheSane | It might be some wonkiness with their character sheet calculations. |
| 23:46.26 | Recluse | i'm not saying it makes sense, but that's what it sounds like - naked agi being cut off the top |
| 23:46.30 | NightHawkTheSane | I somewhat recall my spellcrit coming up weird too |
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| 23:46.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Recluse: yeah, thats a reasonably decent bet |
| 23:47.25 | Funkeh` | okay |
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| 23:48.16 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: i think the exact forumla is Strength + Agility + (Character Level x 2) - 20 |
| 23:48.54 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Attack_Power |
| 23:49.40 | NightHawkTheSane | why the -10/20? o_0 |
| 23:49.51 | Arrowmaster | who knows |
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| 23:55.28 | Dezzimal | how do you get macros to show the number of sacred candles left instead of the text label you give it? |
| 23:55.45 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r52193 10SharedMedia/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:55.46 | CIA-12 | SharedMedia: Fonts: |
| 23:55.46 | CIA-12 | - rename BigNoodleTilting > BigNoodleTitling-Oblique |
| 23:55.46 | CIA-12 | - add the real BigNoodleTitling |
| 23:55.46 | CIA-12 | - /hug Seerah |
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| 23:56.47 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: thx |
| 23:59.10 | Funkeh` | Roartindon, did you see my post about hiding assessment frames when solo? |
| 23:59.15 | Funkeh` | |Stan|, np |
| 23:59.44 | Roartindon | Funkeh`: Sorry ,must have missed it :) But even without reading it, I can guess... :) |
