IRC log for #wowace on 20071014

00:00.04orionshockXinhuan: maybe you can answer this... when you do " local frame = CreateFrame("frame", SomeRandomName, UIParent)
00:00.15orionshock.. "SomeRandomName"..
00:00.33orionshockdosn't that create 2 references to the frame? the local variable and the global variable?
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00:03.33Gagorianorionshock: You store the global frame object locally into that variable
00:03.35GagorianSo yes
00:04.01GagorianBut, the local variable just references to the frame
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00:08.38orionshockso to truely hide a frame, one would just local the var holding it and leave it un named
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00:12.06dylanmExplain what you mean by this.
00:12.26Eggi~seen Antiarc
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00:13.08orionshockto make it to where you cannot modify it by other addons
00:14.11dylanmYou want to take an arbitrary frame and make it unmodifiable?
00:14.26orionshock... just talking theory here dylanm
00:14.50dylanmI wasn't suggesting otherwise :p
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00:16.07orionshockbut ya, make a arbitrary frame with no name or parent really and just keep it held in a table index so that other addons cannot touch or modify it
00:17.04CIA-1203funkydude * r51931 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Halazzi: Re-write Spirit Phase stuff is its dependant on HP not a timer.
00:17.33chexsumsince youre talking about frames - why do some frames show when you hide the interface ?
00:17.49KnaledgeKemayo: available?
00:17.53chexsumie the music player one in ace
00:17.55orionshockchexsum: because they are parented to the worldframe and not UIParent
00:18.13chexsumty
00:19.41CIA-1203kemayo * r51932 10InBank/ (. Core.lua InBank.toc): InBank: 8 lines of putting in item tooltip how many of that item are in your bags and bank.
00:19.45KemayoKnaledge: What can I do for you?
00:19.55orionshock<PROTECTED>
00:20.07orionshockr
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00:20.33KnaledgeKemayo: any word on the ALS change to make it so that my raid frame doesn't go blank in combat?
00:20.47KnaledgeI had heardyou removed the "Notes" pane to correct this but my
00:20.51KnaledgeNOtes pane is still there
00:20.55KemayoKnaledge: I kicked the notes tab into its own module -- disable that if you're seeing the problem.
00:21.05Knaledgeah ok
00:21.06chexsumitd be nice to have a mod that could reparent frames as well as move/hide/show them
00:21.33hyperChipmunkchexsum: visor
00:21.37KemayoI need to get in a raid and be in combat so I can work out what's causing that -- I didn't manage to see it last time I was raiding.
00:21.51chexsumh well goodbye moveanything lol
00:22.10Knaledgekemayo: where do I disable this?
00:22.11Zhinjioquestion: I want to maintain a text list that is scrollable in one part of a pane. I also want to be able to change the font of any line to be highlighted if the user selects (clicks) one of the items in the list. Is it easiest to maintain the "list" as a series of buttons, and then change the fontobject to be GameFontHighlight when it is selected, or is there a better way?
00:22.22Knaledgekemayo: disabling the "Notes" module causes my notes to all go away
00:22.34Knaledgewhat option do I use to remove the "NOtes" pane on social pane?
00:22.39KemayoKnaledge: Disable the "panel" module.
00:22.40orionshockwhats the chat frame cluster parented to?
00:22.51KemayoYou'll have to /rl as well.
00:23.13Knaledgeah ok was about to ask
00:23.20Knaledgealright cool I'll let you know if that works
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00:25.40ZhinjioI fear that question wasn't intelligible.
00:25.52Zhinjioheh
00:26.21CIA-1203funkydude * r51933 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Jan'alai: Add 5 minute enrage
00:28.10chexsumza is pretty chaotic
00:28.57CyrezAnybody know how to change the opacity in PitBull's frames?
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00:30.53Chompers4 days till my ptr transfers go through :<
00:30.59ChompersZA looks like fun
00:33.09KemayoPeople who add bosses to BigWigs should add them to Babble-Boss as well.  I'd get less error messages that way.
00:35.21hyperChipmunkCyrez: combatfader i think handles that
00:35.27hyperChipmunkit's a module
00:35.32CyrezTY. ^^
00:36.11CIA-1203funkydude * r51934 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua:
00:36.11CIA-12BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon:
00:36.11CIA-12- add icon placement
00:36.11CIA-12- add storm cooldown
00:36.16Zhinjiowowwiki has a HOWTO for making a scrollable list with FauxScrollFrameTemplate. Is that still the best method for making a scrollable list, or is there some new fancier method in the ace libs or whatnot?
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00:39.33Balstornice to know PArser3.0 sends nil info to handlers
00:42.08kandarzI remember seeing ckk say something about how poor ratingbuster was coded, has there been anything else written that essentially does the same thing?
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00:43.00kenlyricblow ckk until he does?
00:43.14kenlyricor, just use RB because meh, whatever, it's fine.
00:43.27orionshockkandarz: is it causing any noticeable drops in system performance?
00:43.41orionshockif not - then let devs bitch to one another
00:44.21orionshock<PROTECTED>
00:46.14Xinhuani've actually read through the entire code of StatLogicLib.. the backend of RB
00:46.16Xinhuanit looks ok
00:47.17orionshockif Xinhuan says that - then what he has problems with he's prolly being nit-pickey about
00:48.01Xinhuanits probably not a ratingbuster fault more so with the bag addon's fault
00:48.22Xinhuanbecause old bag addons use a OnUpdate handler to update the tooltip continually by setting GameTooltip:SetHyperlink()
00:48.46Xinhuanso that in turn continually triggers RatingBuster and every other addon that hooks into it to add the info shown
00:48.51Xinhuanon the tooltip
00:49.08Xinhuanso its more of a addon issue with how the tooltips are handled
00:49.23XinhuanBlizzard recoded their default bags to only update once every 0.9 secs now
00:49.26Xinhuanso its no longer an issue
00:49.31Xinhuanbut many addons haven't updated
00:50.13Xinhuanso you will normally see a FPS drop just by having your mouse over an item that generates a tooltip
00:50.21orionshockwhat setting an on enter and on leave a problem for bag addons?
00:50.45Xinhuanthe BAGS itself, orionshock, require an onupdate to continually update the tooltips
00:50.54Xinhuansince the tooltip contain Cooldown info
00:50.58Xinhuanthat updates
00:50.59art3misif you are on a flying mount and hold the up arrow + insert key youll do a backflip, enjoy.
00:52.24Xinhuanfor eg, try mounting up, you'll see a 3 sec cooldown on all your mounts, and tooltips will say "Cooldown Remaining: 3 secs" etc
00:52.30orionshockart3mis:  nice
00:52.31Xinhuanand it counts down
00:52.56art3mishitting delete instead will front flip yuo
00:53.47hyperChipmunkand typing /console pitchlimit 720 will let you fly that way with the mouse
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00:57.47CIA-1203funkydude * r51935 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: ZulAman: Add Malacrass module
00:57.52Funkeh`1 more to go
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01:00.41Funkeh`nymbia sux
01:01.43Balstoranyone here understand the lua syntax really well?
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01:03.15vhaarrno, we only do perl in here
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01:03.54Balstorsrsly trying yo understand the difference between the colo and the period for defining functions
01:04.09Balstorsigh thst sentance looks really bad
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01:04.22starlonthat one's no better
01:04.25Balstorsrsly trying to understand the difference between the colon and the period for defining functions
01:04.34CIA-1203broesel01 * r51936 10GM-Teleporter/ (43 files in 12 dirs):
01:04.34CIA-12GM-Teleporter:
01:04.34CIA-12- Antrix/Ascent GM-Teleporter (German)
01:04.34CIA-12- first release on WoWAce
01:04.45Balstoryhea been yelling at the bar during the LSU game
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01:04.53hyperChipmunkcolon passes the table as its first argument
01:04.56nymbiaFunkeh`: :'(
01:05.01Balstorit appears a colon imples an extra 1st argument
01:05.10Nargiddleyfunction foo:bar() end is the same as function foo.bar(self) end
01:05.13hyperChipmunkright
01:05.26hyperChipmunkit's the containing table, and it's referred inside as 'self'
01:05.33Nargiddleyand then calling with the : passed the table as that first argument
01:05.36Balstorso the table it passes is itself?
01:05.59Nargiddleyfoo:bar() is functionally the same as foo.bar(foo)
01:07.17Balstorahh okay the Lua ref. Manual talks about that but the phrase "is syntactic sugar" is not really true
01:07.28hyperChipmunksure it is
01:07.36hyperChipmunkyou don't need to do it; it's just more convenient
01:07.49hyperChipmunkand i recommend reading the pil instead of the ref man
01:08.07hyperChipmunkor at least prior to
01:09.44BalstorI usually refer to is syntactic sugar for stuff like a[0]=0  to (*a) =0 both are equivalent but in this case there not interchangable, if it's declared with a colon then you need to call it with a colo or build a table
01:09.54Trell_you know your ZA pug is going to fail when: you inspect the priest (1 of 3 healers) and he has green and blue items equipped.
01:10.10ToadkillerThe PIL rocks!
01:10.25Balstorbahh easier to read than the C++ ANSI guide just not as exact as the C++ ANSI standard
01:10.46Balstorbut i will look up the PIL
01:10.56KemayoBalstor: If it's declared with a colon then you, by definition, have a table.
01:11.07hyperChipmunkyou don't need to call it with a colon
01:11.15hyperChipmunkyou can write foo.bar(foo)
01:11.19KemayoAlso, what the small rodent said.
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01:11.36hyperChipmunkthe PIL is the K&R of Lua
01:11.57Balstorif i have foo:bar(arg1)  then the call becomes foo.bar(foo,arg1)
01:12.06KemayoYup.
01:12.06hyperChipmunkand yes, i make the analogy with a full knowledge of all it entails
01:12.12Balstoryhea i still have my K&R book around here someplace
01:12.32ToadkillerOh man K&R brings memories
01:12.46ToadkillerI plastic coated mine, so its still good to go
01:12.48CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r634 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
01:12.48CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide
01:12.48CIA-12tekkub-wow: - Reworked mapping, now passes guide title as zone to map in... no more mapping in IF when you log in!
01:12.48CIA-12tekkub-wow: - Added |Z| tag to define the zone to map in if different from the guide title
01:12.48CIA-12tekkub-wow: - Added |NODEBUG| tag to suppress debug warnings about bad title case on an objective if it's been tested to not fit the normal rules
01:12.53CIA-12tekkub-wow: - More ally guide data
01:12.54BalstorHmm let me check my ref library real fast I may have lost that book in katrina, damn hurricane
01:13.09ToadkillerExcept for the part where my edition is completely & hopelessly out of date
01:13.50ToadkillerTekkub: thanks for the drama warning in my thread!
01:13.56Balstoryhea hurricane got that book have to browse ebay for a new copy
01:14.20Tekkub^^
01:14.28Toadkillernah noone needs C, jsut use C++
01:15.48Balstorso if im passing an function as an argument to a library how do i know if it expects the foo.bar(foo,arg1) or the foo.bar(arg1) syntax?
01:16.02ToadkillerTekkub: say do you have the power to sticky a topic & could I still edit it afterwards?  (The 2nd reserved post in the thread for instance)
01:16.18Balstorran into this with parser3.0 stuff
01:18.27ToadkillerJust look at the function, if it is declared as foo:bar() then call it however that needs, but if it is foo.bar or just bar then you need to pass no self, unless it is bar(self, blah blah blah ) in which case you can still call it with a : etc.  Just keep doing it till you get no error & you will get the hang of it.
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01:18.59hyperChipmunkToadkiller: i have 4 copies >8)
01:19.12Toadkillerof K&R?
01:19.13Tekkub"sticky a topic" uh... probably, but that's an addon thread isn't it
01:19.14ckknighthey all
01:19.14hyperChipmunkget 'em used from amazon
01:19.14Tekkub?
01:19.25Tekkubdon't think addon threads should get stickied
01:19.41hyperChipmunkyeah
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01:20.03Toadkilleryeah addon thread.  so no sticky topic inside?  I noticed a sticky topic in some thread somewhere, was just wondering if it could be done in an addon thread so people can always get a link to the wiki & faq & stuff
01:20.57hyperChipmunkthere's these things called bookmarks...
01:20.57ToadkillerWould cut down on stupid questions if it can be done since only half the posters even read the last post...
01:21.16hyperChipmunkand nothing cuts down on stupid questions
01:21.16ToadkillerNo not the entire thread, just a particular post inside the thread...
01:21.39hyperChipmunkthere will always be stupid questions
01:22.15ToadkillerYEs but then I can point them to the first or the last post in the thread instead of the first post which is usually buried by pages & pages of posts already
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01:23.17Toadkiller& if I use my new favourite thing: lurid red glow, then it may get noticed by another 5% before they post some more duplicate stuff noone needs once more
01:25.29CIA-1203funkydude * r51937 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: ZulAman: add Zul'jin module
01:30.13Gnarfozare addons specifically designed for emulated servers (and which can really only be of use there) allowed on the SVN?
01:31.07Xinhuani'm going to hazard a guess and say no.
01:31.17orionshockGnarfoz: emulated servers are agenst the Bliz ToS and are legaly actionable.. so no
01:31.26CIA-1203funkydude * r51938 10BigWigs/ZulAman/BigWigs_ZulAman.toc: BigWigs: ZulAman: add forum link
01:31.28Gnarfozthen someone should have a look at GM-Teleporter :)
01:31.37orionshocknot saying that the mod is but the server is
01:32.05Xinhuanit wouldn't be a very useful mod to 99.9999% of us would it?
01:32.07Xinhuanheheh
01:32.58Gnarfozit's easy access to GM teleport functions for a particular kind of emulated servers
01:34.48Knaledgefunkeh
01:34.54Knaledgedo you need someone to do ZulJin for you?
01:35.00Knaledgeif so, can have it done for you MOnday
01:35.06orionshock51936  by broesel01 13 October 2007, 18:04:32 -0700 (30 minutes ago)
01:35.07Knaledgejust need to know what you need
01:35.29durcynKnaledge: install Transcriptor.
01:35.39Knaledgedoes he need though?
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01:35.51Knaledgesaw Zul'Jin module committed just now
01:36.03Xinhuana few extra transcripts wouldn't hurt
01:36.23Xinhuanto get the randomness out of timers out
01:36.39Gnarfozorionshock: yeah, that one
01:38.31Knaledgeok cool
01:38.40Knaledgeany configuration I need to do with Transcriptor?
01:38.55Knaledgedo I need to be writing my combat log?
01:39.07Funkeh`You click the button so it glows red
01:39.08durcyninstall it, then start it before you engage.
01:39.28Funkeh`then click it again to stop glowing, so it stops
01:39.39Knaledgeso glowing = on
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01:40.01Funkeh`pretty much :D
01:40.29Knaledgeok cool
01:40.33Knaledgewowace.com for it?
01:40.43Knaledge~purl transcriptor
01:40.54Knaledgepfft
01:41.47Hjalte~transcriptor
01:42.03durcynyes, it's on files.
01:42.14Knaledgeso then what do I do?
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01:42.21KnaledgeZulJin is dead, etc. what do I do then?
01:42.29Knaledgeturn off transcriptor
01:42.34Knaledgedo I send a file to you?
01:42.37Funkeh`purl, transcriptor is a logging utility for boss encounters, available at http://files.wowace.com/
01:42.38purlFunkeh`: okay
01:42.40durcynreload your ui to write out the saved vars
01:42.56durcynthen zip up the Transcriptor.lua from your WTF directory and attach it to a forum post
01:43.08Funkeh`you can pm me it on the forum or link me it here
01:43.28Knaledgeh ok via pastey?
01:43.30Knaledgewill do
01:43.36CIA-1203xinhuan 07WIP * r51939 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/ (Core.lua TSP.lua): Cartographer_Routes: Localization part 1. Locating all strings and putting it all in one table!
01:44.10Xinhuanwoo i'm hungry
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01:48.01Kaydeethreeanyone remember how the horde version of the Shady Rest Inn quest chain got started?
01:48.04orionshockOMFG NERF PALLYS HARD AND IN DA'NUTZ
01:48.14Kaydeethreeall I can piece together from wowhead's at http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Shady_Rest_Inn_quest_chain
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01:49.02QuidQuestion, anyone but me having problems with omen?
01:49.10NightHawkTheSaneI wasn't even aware there WAS a quest chainthere
01:49.19QuidAnd autobar I suppose
01:50.43xyudoes misdirecting on onesself help?
01:51.01xyufor say HKM
01:51.33ZhinjioHey ckknight.
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01:52.27Gnarfozxyu: Misdirection redirects the threat you do. it doesn't copy it? :>
01:52.42Gnarfozotherwise how would pulling with Misdirection help anything ^^
01:53.00NightHawkTheSaneGnarfoz: well, the hunter could still feign after
01:53.16NightHawkTheSaneand it'd still give a threat lead over other characters
01:53.21Gnarfozhe could, but that's not how it works :>
01:53.27NightHawkTheSaneoh, i know. :)
01:54.12NightHawkTheSanebut you asked how it woudl help, so i answered. :)
01:54.49QuidOmen is installed, as is autobar, but I cannot access them ingame
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01:59.15Trell_Nalorakk hits quite hard >_<
02:02.32CIA-1203laotseu * r51940 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua:
02:02.32CIA-12AllPlayed:
02:02.32CIA-12- The XPToNextLevel are values are now saved if the function return a different value then UnitXPMax("player"). This will help find the next values for level < 60 in PTR 2.3.
02:03.51CIA-1203sylvanaar * r51941 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChatLink.lua: Prat: Added GEM compatibility mode (contributed by Ayorus). Off by default.
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02:09.35CIA-1203funkydude * r51942 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Halazzi.lua Malacrass.lua Zul'jin.lua):
02:09.35CIA-12BigWigs: Zul'Aman:
02:09.35CIA-12- pName bugfix
02:09.35CIA-12- tweak in Halazzi
02:10.29KemayoFunkeh`: Add those bosses to Babble-Boss as well?
02:10.44Funkeh`Already added them
02:11.54Borked|Raideranyone who got a sample of code for adding a custom made texture untop of UIParent?(where the options for apha, and position are to be changed?
02:11.56KemayoHm.  I wonder why I'm getting babble errors from bigwigs, then.
02:12.33Funkeh`Kemayo, have you updated babble?
02:14.00xyuWhat's a normal Arcane blast cycle for Arcane mages?
02:14.09xyui think i might give it a try
02:14.11KemayoFunkeh`: I've been running an updater... but apparently it hasn't been updating babble.
02:14.15xyunow that i have 2 piece
02:14.26Funkeh`Kemayo, ouch :X
02:14.32kebinusanprolly been linked, but Im slow www.kaelthasraiding.ytmnd.com
02:14.58KemayoAh, there we go.  It was stuck as being an svn addon.
02:15.13kebinusanonly meh
02:15.17kebinusanbut its a slow night for me
02:17.53durcyni prefer readthestrat.ytmnd.com
02:18.18Trell_anyone had a problem on the bear boss where he doesn't respawn if you reset?
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02:22.35Xinhuanxyu: when you cast AB, it gives you a 8 sec debuff. the idea is to cast other spells during the first 6.5 secs so that when you next cast AB between 6.5-7.9sec of the debuff just before it wears off, it will complete casting after the debuff wears off
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02:23.14Killmorefunkydude: your a king dude ! You already made the ZA module for BW :P
02:23.15Xinhuanthis means, your AB will have the "shortened cast time" due to the debuff, but cost base mana as the spellcast completes without the debuff
02:23.29Xinhuanthe 6.5 seconds is usually AM and Scorch
02:23.39Xinhuanbut it can be 2 fireballs, or 4 scorches, etc
02:24.00Xinhuanso a "normal rotation" is AB-AB-AB-AM-Scorch
02:24.15Xinhuanand you adjust the number of ABs depending on the fight to conserve or spend more mana
02:24.30Xinhuanor AB-Scorchx4 to really conserve mana
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02:25.34Xinhuanis that a spelling error on "Zil'Aman" ?
02:25.37Funkeh`Killmore, :)
02:25.40Wobinhm
02:25.50Funkeh`zul :x
02:25.52WobinSo you get the 1.5second cast
02:25.58Wobinat the end to 'redebuff'?
02:26.03Xinhuanyes wobin
02:26.26Wobinbut the previous AB's within the cycle still absorb the increased mana cost?
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02:26.36Xinhuanwhich AB
02:26.50WobinWell, the middle two AB's in your cycle?
02:26.56XinhuanAB-AB-AB-(stacked on 3 now)-AM-Scorch
02:27.11Wobindon't the second and third casts take more mana?
02:27.11Xinhuanso you dont' actually cast any ABs that cost 800 mana when stacked on 3
02:27.14Xinhuanyeah they do
02:27.30Xinhuanso you can adjust the number of ABs you cast
02:27.35Xinhuandepending on fight and your mana
02:27.47Xinhuanwith a shadow priest, you can prob even do ABx4-AM-Scorch
02:28.05Xinhuanwithout a priest or shaman, you can prob survive barely on ABx2-Am-Scorch
02:28.33Xinhuanhence spellhaste is worthless to an arcane spec mage unless you can get about 9% of it to change the spell rotation from AM-Scorch to AM-Frostbolt(2.4s)
02:28.40WobinArcane just became interesting again =P
02:28.52Xinhuanspellhaste is really good for a arcane missile spam mage though
02:29.00Xinhuanbecause of a certain meta gem
02:29.02Xinhuancalled MSD
02:29.13Xinhuanit has 6 chances to proc per AM cast, or 26.4% or so
02:29.19Wobincrazy
02:29.29WobinAnd that increases spellhaste does it?
02:29.31Xinhuanso that single meta gem currently increases AM spam mage damage by 17% roughly
02:29.35Xinhuanyes
02:29.43Xinhuanand blizzard is nerfing it
02:29.44Wobindoes it have an internal cooldown?
02:29.48Xinhuancurrently no
02:29.53Xinhuanin 2.3, 45 secs
02:29.57Wobinow
02:29.58Xinhuanhence its a AM-spam nerf
02:30.03Wobinthat's a major nerf =P
02:30.10Xinhuanin 2.2, it has been proven that AM-spam > any mage spec
02:30.29Xinhuanfeel free to check out EJ forums or EJ irc channel ;p
02:30.33Xinhuanthey talk about it 80% of the day
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02:33.40Killmoreanyone can paste me the filefront link for the PTR patch ?
02:33.54WobinWhat's the EJ channel?
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02:53.02Thraesilentium: ThraeBot goes by the order they're listed inside the Armoury page xml.
02:55.39Borked|Raideranyone done some calc on the new arena offhand sword, do it beat the offhand from mother?
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03:09.52Balstoris this a new spell : Chastise the target, causing 93 to 107 Holy damage and Incapacitates them for up to 2 sec. Any damage caused will awaken the target. Only works against Humanoids. This spell causes very low threat.
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03:10.57Zatarit's the new priest racial
03:11.05Balstorahhh right
03:11.17Balstorengineers get the ability to make new arrows to
03:11.31Zatarreally? I missed that note
03:11.50BalstorIm reading all of the 1342 changed spells
03:11.56Zatarahh
03:12.07BalstorAdamantite Arrow Maker (Adamantite Series)
03:12.08Balstor8 sec cast
03:12.10BalstorAdamantite Frame, Simple Wood, Handful of Fel Iron Bolts
03:12.46Balstorlooks like the daily quest in AV is to capture a mine
03:15.26BalstorI want this on my warrior
03:15.28BalstorCharge -- Charges an enemy, inflicting 35% of the caster's normal damage and stuns the opponent for 2 sec.
03:16.04Zatarin my tanking gear, that still amounts to next to nothing :)
03:17.03Balstortrue but at least it scales, actualy i would be happy if they removed the 1 sec. stun from charge
03:17.33Balstorhmm arrow name: Create Adamantite Stinger
03:18.47Balstorhm, there adding death knight spells already: Death and Decay
03:19.07Zhinjiodoesn't look you can do ListItem[index] = f:CreateFrame( "Button", ...
03:19.09cralordoes anyone know how Cart_Data works? i downloaded it and put it into addons folder, but it doesn't show any nodes or anything.
03:19.21MegalonBalstor: could also be a npc spell
03:19.53Balstortrue but therr is another one that looks DK to, they could be debugging them by haveing npscs use them
03:20.13Tekkubfor those interested...
03:20.14Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7674-TourGuide.html
03:20.15Balstoralso it has a 30 yard range
03:20.19Tekkubofficially beta :)
03:20.24cralorwhast that?
03:21.32craloroo woot
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03:22.54cralorhey tekkub
03:23.13Balstorinteresting there adding a target riflr , i guess a shooting game for the fair or maybe halloween
03:23.31Tekkubmoo?
03:23.42BalstorTeleport: Zul'Aman Instance
03:23.43chexsumcow
03:23.50chexsumwhat did i win
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03:24.20StanzillaTekkub: you shoud add a screenshot
03:24.25chexsumdragonhawk teleports players
03:24.28Tekkubfuck screenshots
03:25.53cralorhow come my cart_data isnt working?
03:25.54Balstorcool if you eat too mutch halloween candy you get an "Upset Tummy"
03:27.14Zatarmy favorite from brewfest was the equivalent Can't Hold Your Brew
03:28.07Balstorthere also appears there is a halloween game involving a skull and throwing it to people, I see a long pass and a short pass plus a debuff "Has the Ball"
03:28.50Balstordruid buff: Permanently increase the armor on a pair of gloves by 240. Only useable on items level 60 and above.
03:28.57Killmoreomg the server just crash :(
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03:30.19Balstorcough Xmas mount incoming Flying Reindeer
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03:34.47BluelightninHello
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03:39.24CIA-12-Windfury Weapon, not Windfury, for shaman spell weapon buffs
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03:52.36Xinhuan~pil
03:52.36purlrumour has it, pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language.  The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0.  The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
03:54.45NightHawkTheSaneokay, random question, but can someone explain what this means: "Players no longer gain the moving AOE radius bonus if they are jumping."
03:54.59Ellipsismeans mages are OP
03:55.12NightHawkTheSanewell, we already knew that, but i meant specifics. ;)
03:55.29Balstorsince the movement is client side the AOE gains a blob shape around the player as they move and AOE
03:55.31Ellipsisthe range of your AEs would increase slightly while running or jumping
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03:56.16Balstorso if lets say in the arena you were under the bridge you could AOE and jump hitting the peopl on the bridge, so it sounds like they want to keep the blob anchored to the surface of the world
03:56.43NightHawkTheSanehmm, could be.
03:56.44Balstormy question what is the exploit on this there fixing....
03:56.56NightHawkTheSanei wasn't aware that the size of the AOE radius changed when moving/jumping. *shrug*
03:57.18Bluelightninwhere can i download Ace because i have been looking through the wiki and i cannot find a download link
03:58.00Balstorfiles.wowace.com ???
03:59.09Bluelightnini looked there and it just lookes the addon database type thing havent seen anything for ace itself
03:59.48Funkeh`Bluelightnin, all addons are hosted on the files page, located at files.wowace.com
03:59.58Ellipsiswhee, 4mins left on portal \o/
04:00.07Balstorhttp://files.wowace.com/Ace2/Ace2-r50175.zip
04:00.13Bluelightnin4 min left?
04:00.16Funkeh`Ellipsis, portal?
04:00.23Kaydeethreeportal <3
04:00.26Kaydeethreejust wish it was longer
04:00.35Mecdemortportal and episode 2 where wayyyy too short
04:00.35Bluelightnini beat the game 3times (if its the one released by steam)
04:00.40EllipsisI've been dying to play it
04:00.56Ellipsislast night my bf bought it so I'm gonna play his copy
04:01.05Bluelightninportals was better than i though because i didnt think they would make it have a story line, grantit it was short but it was good
04:01.09Ellipsisjust 3mins on the file copy <3
04:01.27Balstornrg servers crashing is getting amuesing, i wonder when the law will find the owner od the company
04:01.31Mecdemortthey're fun and nicely done, but so short its just not worth $50 and how long we had to wait
04:01.58Bluelightnini bought it as a pack so i mainly wanted HL2ep2
04:02.14Mecdemorthl2e2 isnt much longer than portal
04:03.13Bluelightnini dont like what they are doing with hl2 great storyline but they are in it for the money by releasing it a bit at a time
04:03.45BluelightninBTW Thanks Balstor for the downloadlink
04:04.39Balstorno [roblem that page can be confuesing sometimes
04:04.59Balstorgahhh all weekend i have been fat fingering my keyboard
04:08.37hyperChipmunkBluelightnin: I haven't played it, but that's actually really neat
04:08.47hyperChipmunklike an old-style serial
04:09.00hyperChipmunkthey used to write books that way >8)
04:09.22Zhinjiowhat will # return on an empty list? nil or 0?
04:09.53Zhinjioeg, #( { } )
04:10.58Balstorwoot cyCircled_Helloween
04:11.37Bluelightninhyperchipmunk:you talking about portals?
04:12.53TinyboomBluelightnin: I agree with you on some extent, but you gotta admit it's quite brilliant of Valve:p hell, I still want more, and can't wait for the next one.....and will stil buy it:p
04:13.43hyperChipmunkBluelightnin: no idea
04:13.46hyperChipmunkjust what you were saying
04:14.46Bluelightnintinyboom:haha i wasent underminding it at all what they are doin it great for the company, from playing hl2e2 the ending always put you wanting more(not goin to say anyhting bout it just in case ppl hasent played it) but DAMN that ending lol.
04:14.55Mecdemortand now for something comletely different, i shall beat portal again in french
04:15.00hyperChipmunkauthors used to write serials...like a chapter a week...for magazines and such
04:15.08hyperChipmunkit's a more consistent flow of money
04:15.16hyperChipmunksame way with radio shows
04:15.23hyperChipmunkthey tended to be that way, too
04:16.03Bluelightninand as far as portals, if ANYONE hasent palyed it i would suggest it to anyone, Not only is a stragity type of game but it also has a story line to it and the storyline is really funny i got a kick out of it (and stay for the credits :-)
04:16.05NightHawkTheSanethe medium hasn't entirely disappeared, but its not so much done for money as it is nostalgia these days
04:16.19hyperChipmunkright
04:16.26Bluelightninhyperchipmonk: agreed :-)
04:16.27hyperChipmunkwhich is why i think it's neat
04:16.34NightHawkTheSaneindeed
04:16.43hyperChipmunkcuz they're actually making it their business model
04:16.44Ellipsisvery...very patiently
04:16.55NightHawkTheSanethere's actually a number of podcasts which are authors reading their books a chapter or so a week
04:16.57NightHawkTheSaneit's kinda neat
04:16.58hyperChipmunkthe trick behind it is that you have to be consistent
04:17.14Bluelightninyep
04:17.18hyperChipmunkyou have to maintain quality and interest over a long period of time
04:17.39Balstorbest warcraft forum filter ever made : http://blue.cardplace.com/blue_results1.htm
04:17.41Bluelightninthe ONLY thing i dont like about valve is there steam client poorly coded :-(
04:17.43hyperChipmunkthe business trends recently are cash in quick and move on to the next big thing
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04:17.58CodayusPortal is awesome, yes.  And in some ways, I like the fact that it's short.
04:17.58hyperChipmunkif they can make this work, good for them
04:18.27CodayusWay too many developers have a couple hours of content, and then bulk it out to 8 or so with random content.
04:18.38Bluelightninyou really cant consider portals "short" yes the storyline is but they made it easy for map creators to create more maps and for them to be easily uploaded to the game and played
04:18.43ComxxHey Antiarc here or is he afk ?
04:19.03NightHawkTheSane~seen Antiarc
04:19.05purlantiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 5h 54m 43s) #wowace (1d 5h 54m 43s). Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 9h 34m 2s, last said: 'Hahaha'.
04:19.09NightHawkTheSanehe's listed as AFK in irc. *shrug*
04:19.12CodayusBluelightnin: True, but the storyline was just...so...awesome...  :-)
04:20.28ComxxDAng i want to know when he going to start Hemlock 2 Rock version =)
04:20.31Bluelightnincoda Yea it was :-) i dont remember the last time i got a good laugh at something like that and a quite from the computer that i cannot for get "a speedy thing goes in and a speedy thing comes out" lol
04:20.47Bluelightninquote*   :-( cant type
04:20.55CodayusI'll happily play additional levels, but...without the voice and the plot and most of all, the cake...
04:21.08NightHawkTheSaneComxx: something wrong with hemlock currently?
04:21.09Zhinjiohrm
04:21.10CodayusMmm.  Cake.
04:21.45Bluelightninlol the cake
04:21.55kebinusanwonder if I'll have any problems running portals under wine
04:22.01Funkeh`oh my god
04:22.10Funkeh`teal'cs hair
04:22.16Funkeh`in the latest atlantis
04:22.19Bluelightninkebinusan: go get windows :P
04:22.22NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: yeah, i know. ><
04:22.54ComxxYea http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3789.140 Read away
04:22.54NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: but hey, carter! \o/
04:23.06Funkeh`carter got hotter
04:23.12NightHawkTheSaneindeed.
04:23.21NightHawkTheSanealthough I still liked Weir better
04:23.35Funkeh`I hope they bring her back
04:23.39Funkeh`I want both!
04:23.43kebinusantogether
04:23.45kebinusanin bed!
04:23.45NightHawkTheSanehaha. totally. :D
04:23.57kebinusansorry
04:24.02Bluelightninquestion about ace 2, the last time i used it(quite a long time ago >.<) it was a program but when i downloaded it there is no .exe in the files so i have to go somewhere else to download it or do i have to search through the addon database thing for addons now
04:24.15hyperChipmunk~wau
04:24.16purlfrom memory, wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside.
04:24.19Comxx•NightHawkTheSane• i try to fix it my self will not luck =(
04:25.09Balstori think the issue is ace is a library that helps authors of addons, maybe what your really looking for is an addon based on ace2 libraries
04:25.15Comxxwith*
04:25.53ZhinjioI don't get it.
04:25.56Zhinjioum...
04:25.57NightHawkTheSane"This is bad, very bad. I'm not sure I can fix this." "You can fix anything!" "Who told you that?" "You did, on several occasions."
04:26.03BalstorIf you search the files.wowace.com page you may find the addon that your really looking for.
04:26.10Zhinjiowhats the difference between the following:
04:26.40ZhinjioOP_Button:SetScript( "OnClick", OPB_OnClick )
04:26.43Zhinjioand this:
04:27.02ZhinjioOP_Button:SetScript( "OnClick", function() OPB_OnClick() end) )
04:27.09Zhinjiothe former doesn't work, the latter works.
04:27.45dylanmDepnds on what OPB_OnClick looks like
04:27.52Zhinjiooh?
04:28.02BalstorAnd I'm gone for the night, LSU lost, the world is a verk dark place
04:28.06Zhinjiowhat does it have to look like in order for the fgirst case to work?
04:28.31dylanmZhinjio: It has to deal with being passed OP_Button as an argument. Or not care.
04:29.31dylanmZhinjio: Well, more than that.
04:30.22ZhinjioI see many many examples where the function is defined inline, and that works fine for me.
04:30.42ZhinjioBut its inelegant coding to me. I want that routine defined elsewhere.
04:30.46ZhinjioMaybe I'm just being dumb.
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04:31.01dylanmSetScript just has the function given called with the arguments (frame, event, arg1, arg2, ...) and so on
04:31.26Bluelightninhmm i found what i was looking for wowaceupdater >.< was asking the wrong questions thanks for the help tho to the poeple :-)
04:31.28dylanmSo that could be an issue.
04:32.13Zhinjioso maybe the function would have to have like (...) as its argument list in order to be considered a valid target for the second argument in setscript, or something like that?
04:32.54Zhinjioor at least (this)
04:34.29Bluelightninok guys well im outa here thanks for the help and the chat :-)
04:35.12dylanmZhinjio: If there's an issue it doesn't have to do with the function's definition. Lua throws away arguments and expectations of arguments as necessary.
04:35.45Zhinjiohmm. maybe that function needs to have already been defined for it to work?
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04:35.53Zhinjioit appears later in my file, currently. trying that...
04:35.55dylanmWell, yes.
04:36.05Coldfuryhey guys, i need some help
04:36.58Coldfuryim trying to put a gradient in a frame i create. but AB1:SetGradientAlpha("HORIZONTAL", 0, 0, 0, 0.3, 0, 0, 0, 1) dont work, gives an error about giving a nil value
04:37.11ColdfuryAB1 is the frame name
04:38.11dylanmZhinjio: Well that's almost certainly it. If the function isn't referenced by OPB_OnClick when that statement is evaluated then nothing is ever going to happen.
04:38.37Coldfurymmm what? :|
04:38.38Coldfurylol
04:38.41ZhinjioOk, now I feel dumb. that worked.
04:38.43Zhinjiothanks.
04:39.52Coldfuryany1 know how i can create a gradient on the backdrop of a frame i create?
04:42.14BalstorSetGradientAlpha has to be called on a texture object not a frame object
04:42.31dylanmBingo.
04:42.52Coldfuryhow do i do that?  my bg texture is the default one(bgFile = "Interface\\Tooltips\\UI-Tooltip-Background"_
04:43.29Coldfurywould AB1.bgFile:SetGradientAlpha work?
04:43.34Coldfuryor something liek that
04:44.50BalstorAB1:CreateTexture("Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background" ,"BACKGROUND");
04:45.27Ellipsisargh
04:45.46Balstori'm guessing you used the SetBackdrop currently and what you want to do your going to have to do it manually, so create the texture stretxh it across the frame, then set the alpha gradient on it
04:45.46Ellipsisanyone else have trouble with not actually hearing the voice in Portal?
04:46.25Balstornaw cause the voices in my head drown them out :P
04:46.48Ellipsisall the sound is working for me, if I turn on the subtitles I can see them, but there's no voice :|
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04:49.16Coldfuryyes i use SetBackdrop
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04:50.36Balstoryhea at the current time i would say use SetBackdrop to do the edge around your box and create a texture and use it for the background
04:51.26Balstorto really ues SetBackdrop well I found I have to but it on its on frame so i can offset what i wanted surronded with a frame. (aka an edit box)
04:51.52BalstorI'm guessing there are more options to that command but i can't find them
04:52.44Coldfurykk. once i created the texture( frame:CreateTexture("Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background" ,"BACKGROUND"); ), how do i set the gradient alpha to that texture?
04:53.09Balstorbg_txt=AB1:CreateTexture("Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background" ,"BACKGROUND");
04:53.33Balstorbg_txt:SetGradientAlpha("HORIZONTAL", 0, 0, 0, 0.3, 0, 0, 0, 1)
04:53.58Balstorand don't forget to SetPoints on it etc etc
04:54.24kenlyrichttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/13/i-know-selling-guides-isnt-new-but-who-in-their-right-mind-wou/
04:54.30kenlyrictekkub got a nice ad in this one :)
04:54.53Balstoryhea powerleveling guides makes those alts a loooooot easier to level
04:55.13Tekkub^^
04:57.46Coldfuryso i should have 4 "bg_txt:SetPoint("TOPLEFT","AB1","TOPLEFT")" for each corner? or i only need one?
04:57.56Balstoronly ned 2
04:58.09Coldfurytopleft and bottomright?
04:58.14Balstortopleft and bottomright
04:58.17Coldfurykk
04:58.31Coldfuryimma try this out, thanks a lot ^^
04:59.03Balstornp i'm gone for the night will be back tomrrow, same bat irc channel same 1990s interface woot
05:00.50Gngskhow close is tourguide to beta? should I use it when I level my next toon?
05:01.35Funkeh`~seen kody
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05:03.02Coldfurymmm it doenst work
05:03.21Coldfuryfunction f:Setup()
05:03.21Coldfury<PROTECTED>
05:03.21ColdfuryAB1:SetPoint("RIGHT","vMinimap_Frame","LEFT",-5,0)
05:03.21Coldfurybg_txt=AB1:CreateTexture("Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background" ,"BACKGROUND");
05:03.21Coldfurybg_txt:SetGradientAlpha("HORIZONTAL", 0, 0, 0, 0.3, 0, 0, 0, 1)
05:03.22Coldfurybg_txt:SetPoint("TOPLEFT","AB1","TOPLEFT")
05:03.24Coldfurybg_txt:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT","AB1","BOTTOMRIGHT")
05:03.34kenlyriceek
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05:03.53Gngsk~pastey
05:03.54purlpastey is probably the place we like to have errors, diffs, and any large chunks of text sent. Look at the topic of the channel you're in to see if they have a specific pastey.net they like to use, otherwise, you can use whatever you want -- yournick.pastey.net, flood.pastey.net, or just pastey.net. Go to one of these URLs, insert the text, press the 'Paste' ...
05:04.32Coldfurykk sorry :)
05:04.52Gngsk~botsnack
05:04.52purlthanks, Gngsk
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05:07.42Coldfuryhttp://coldfury.pastey.net/75282
05:07.55Coldfurythat my code atm, but the gradient doesnt work
05:09.13Xinhuanbecause you set it to 0,0,0
05:09.15Xinhuanframe:SetBackdropColor(0, 0, 0, 0.7)
05:09.21Xinhuanchange it to 1, 1, 1
05:09.53Funkeh`nn folks
05:09.55Xinhuanits merely a command to set the vertex coloring or something
05:10.01Xinhuanon the texture file used
05:10.46Coldfurykk
05:11.46Xinhuanor maybe you were referring to something different
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05:12.56Coldfurywell im trying to have a gradient effect
05:13.17Xinhuanline 5 is wrong i think
05:13.22Xinhuanbg_txt=AB1:CreateTexture("Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background" ,"BACKGROUND");
05:13.27Xinhuanthe first argument isn't the texture path
05:13.31Xinhuanits just a variable name
05:13.37Xinhuanto assign the texture
05:13.43Xinhuanwhich is usually nil
05:13.57Speeddymon_~seen sylvanaar
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05:14.17sylvanaarhm?
05:14.19Speeddymon_hey
05:14.42Speeddymon_is wau supposed to always show the line thru out of date addons that are installed now?  cause sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't for me
05:15.20kenlyricit's really random
05:15.23sylvanaarinterface version out of date, and your game configured not to load out of date
05:15.29sylvanaarnot random at all
05:15.30kenlyricseems to only do it after wau updates.
05:15.32Speeddymon_ahh thats why!
05:15.44kenlyricyeah, that's not it.
05:15.46Coldfurythe API is Frame:CreateTexture(["name"[,"layer"]][,"inheritsFrom"]).    im a noob in lua and the code i have is from Balstor
05:15.53sylvanaar?
05:16.36Speeddymon_well i just disabled out of date, and it's showing the line thru em for me now
05:16.38sylvanaarif your game is not set to load out of date addons they appear with a strikethrough
05:16.41Speeddymon_thx sylv
05:18.57sylvanaarthis occurs only if the TOC version is displayed on the status bar, its possible that it has an error determining it
05:21.01Coldfurymmmh, not sure on how to use Frame:CreateTexture(["name"[,"layer"]][,"inheritsFrom"])
05:21.13xyuAre there any addons or slash commands that allow targeting of marked mobs w/ a keypress or slash command?      /target circle  would be nice :)
05:21.34Coldfuryi think IconDoit does that
05:21.43CIA-1203nymbia * r51954 10/trunk/ (14 files in 14 dirs):
05:21.43CIA-12.Nymbia's various addons:
05:21.43CIA-12- toc updates for those that haven't gotten one yet.
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05:22.48Coldfurybut it only works with party/raid
05:23.02xyunot mobs tho right?  yeah :(
05:23.28Coldfuryi dont think its possible to do that for mobs since it would need to scan all mobs in a certain range constantly
05:23.58xyuok.  I just wasn't sure if blizzard had a command or not.  if not then yeah it would be tough to make probably
05:25.28Coldfuryany1 can help me with my SetGradientAlpha problem pretty plz ^^
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05:30.07Zhinjiodon't textures on buttons obey current scaling settings?
05:39.46Speeddymon_wtf... the epic brewfest mount is only 100% ?? that sucks ass... i was thinkin i was gonna get a 280% mount!
05:40.45Aens|Superiority... its a ground mount
05:40.50Gngsklook on the bright side, you got a mount that sucks ass!
05:41.33Speeddymon_lol
05:41.40Speeddymon_already had one of those.. my lvl40 mount
05:42.13Speeddymon_and my white epic frostsaber that i thought was gonna be striped cause i didnt know that you could preview the mounts actually sitting around the npc
05:42.30JagobahI am attempting to tackle configuring FlexBar2 <_<
05:42.35Speeddymon_damn mistsaber
05:42.57CIA-1203helium * r51955 10RatingBuster/ (5 files):
05:42.57CIA-12RatingBuster:
05:42.57CIA-12- fixed typo
05:42.57CIA-12- use embeds.xml
05:42.57CIA-12- updated zhTW localization
05:43.08JagobahAnyone get FB2 to work with warrior stance button swapping?
05:43.51NightHawkTheSaneGngsk: hey, i like my drunken ram~!
05:44.12Gngskapparently more than you should :\
05:44.33NightHawkTheSanewell, i am horde, so its at least somewhat nifty
05:44.42Gngskamen
05:44.53NightHawkTheSaneplus, i'm a mount whore, also a minipet whore.
05:45.22NightHawkTheSanei'll probably end up buying a hyppogryph mount, just because.
05:45.38GngskI'd settle for just a plain old whore
05:45.46Gngskone that sucks ass would work!
05:45.48NightHawkTheSaneI'm that as well, and cheap!
05:46.06Gngskk, enough of that.
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05:49.01CIA-1203helium * r51956 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.toc embeds.xml):
05:49.01CIA-12ArkInventory:
05:49.01CIA-12- use embeds.xml
05:54.03CIA-1203helium * r51957 10AutoTurnin/ (AutoTurnin.toc embeds.xml): AutoTurnin: use embeds.xml
05:56.58CIA-1203nogudnik * r51958 10Skillet/ (9 files in 3 dirs):
05:56.58CIA-12Skillet:
05:56.58CIA-12- First stab at adding pluggable sorting to the recipe list
06:01.42CIA-1203speeddymon * r51959 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ (. FuBar_ExperienceFu.toc):
06:01.42CIA-12FuBar_ExperienceFu:
06:01.42CIA-12-Added logtemplate
06:01.42CIA-12-Removed unused CompostLib OptDep from TOC
06:06.00CIA-1203speeddymon * r51960 10FuBar_RecZone/ (. FuBar_RecZone.toc):
06:06.00CIA-12FuBar_RecZone:
06:06.00CIA-12- Added logtemplate
06:06.00CIA-12- Removed unused CompostLib optdep from TOC
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06:11.42Speeddymon_damnit!
06:11.57Speeddymon_can someone confirm that compost is truely deprecated?
06:12.21Speeddymon_or tell me if it isnt?  (not related to the last 2 commits)
06:13.18Gngskif I'm not mistaken, the upgrade to lua 5.1 when 2.0 went live mostly deprecated compost
06:13.21ToadkillerCompostlib was dumped months ago iirc.  If you want recycling use the rock framework or just let lua garbage collect for you
06:14.04ToadkillerOr write stuff in a way that limits how many objects you create & destroy
06:14.06Speeddymon_ok, because metrognome is still using it, and i don't have the skill to rewrite metrognome to _not_ use it
06:14.19Speeddymon_anyone wanna tackle that?
06:14.22Gngskwhat're you using metrognome for?
06:14.32Toadkilleris metrognome your lib?
06:14.38Gngskcan't AceEvent do everything it does?
06:14.42Speeddymon_i'm not in my addons, it's a dep of some other addon that im using in game...
06:15.01Toadkillerso then include it...
06:15.32Speeddymon_no no.. im trying to get rid of out of date addons from my install, or make sure they are not deprecated so i can make them not outdated..
06:15.44Speeddymon_metrognome uses compost... actually wait..
06:15.45Speeddymon_1 sec
06:16.09SroshWhat uses Metrognome?
06:16.12ToadkillerI dont get it, why would you care what libraries a particular mod includes?
06:16.33Gngskyou kinda have to if you go the non external route
06:16.34Speeddymon_n/m it's not an optdep of metrognome, it's just in the metrognome code as an if AceLibrary:HasInstance..
06:17.08Toadkillersounds like makework to me
06:17.45Toadkilleroptional recycling: classy
06:18.56Speeddymon_long story short, i run non-embedded because i feel like it, and i just want to get all my TOC's up to date.. i read that compost was deprecated and wanted to make sure none of my addons were using it.. metrognome apparently was still loading it because it has the :HasInstance.. But if I remove it then I should experience no problems because it is no longer in any of my TOC's and is not in any of the svn:externals for the addons I us
06:19.59ToadkillerSO when you run nonembeded do you see some kind of performance benefit?
06:21.10Speeddymon_no.. just feel like running nonembedded.. i like to know what all addons are _actually_ installed.. (embedded wont show you that in game)
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06:25.37CIA-1203toadkiller * r51961 10AutoBar/Locale-enUS.lua:
06:25.37CIA-12AutoBar:
06:25.37CIA-12- Add missing translation
06:30.00Speeddymon_~seen mikk
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06:53.39Speeddymon_damnit!  just got an update and now it isnt getting my toc version.. so im not able to see whats up-to-date and what's not..
07:03.02sylvanaaryeah, Speeddymon_ the game version isnt listed
07:03.53ckknightyou know what's funny?
07:03.55ckknightthe 80's
07:05.59sylvanaarSpeeddymon_ you can 1) enable logging 2) open the data folder (view menu) 3) open revision 1126's folder and set the <value>20200</value> for "LastTOCValue"
07:06.01NightHawkTheSanenot as muchfunny as scary and depressing
07:06.54sylvanaarwdn isnt always current
07:07.33Zhinjiook, another weird thing.
07:07.38Zhinjioheh, I'm chock full of 'em
07:08.12ZhinjioI was using XML for a button frame. and my texture worked fine. I switched to doing CreateFrame and defining things manually, and now the texture is blown out much bigger than it should be.
07:08.20Zhinjioits almost like its ignoring UIScaling now
07:09.19ZhinjioI'm still inheriting UIPanelButtonTemplate. I'm still setting Width and Height. Still anchoring in the same way
07:10.12art3misboondocks rules
07:10.30ZhinjioI even tried not using SetHeight and SetWidth and instead just anchoring the topleft and bottom right. same thing
07:10.47Zhinjioit is makign the baby jesus cry
07:11.01art3misto be fair he was crying before
07:11.07art3mishe's a whining little shit ;)
07:11.11art3miswhiny
07:11.12Zhinjiowell, yeah.
07:11.21Zhinjiobut it still isn't working *grin*
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07:12.22ZhinjioI guess I'll play around with it s'more.
07:12.27Zhinjioif noone has any thoughts.
07:12.48CIA-1203hegarol * r51963 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
07:12.48CIA-12AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
07:12.48CIA-12- ZA update
07:17.26Zhinjiooh. I think the TexCoords are not right.
07:17.48ZhinjioI guess I just assumed they'd be 0,0,1,1 by default.
07:17.51ZhinjioFAIL
07:18.15ckknightisn't it 0,1,0,1?
07:19.01Zhinjioyes
07:19.03Zhinjiosorry
07:19.05ZhinjioFAIL AGAIN
07:19.06Zhinjioheh
07:19.13Zhinjiohmm, that isn't a valid method for a button
07:21.34Zhinjiothe nuances of manually creating stuff in LUA that XML was doing for me before are not as intuitive as I'd like. Oh well.
07:22.28ckknight:SetTexCoord
07:23.38Zhinjiothat isn't a valid method for a button.
07:23.49ZhinjioI think I need to do a CreateTexture using the button as the parent
07:23.52Kerafyrmhey ck, have did you see the pastey i posted re: cartographer on ptr?
07:23.54ckknightright
07:23.54Zhinjioand then do my setting on the texture
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07:23.59ckknightKerafyrm: sure didn't
07:24.00Kerafyrm-have
07:24.13CIA-1203nogudnik * r51964 10Skillet/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
07:24.13CIA-12Skillet:
07:24.13CIA-12- Added sorting by recipe difficulty
07:24.13CIA-12- Fixed bug when both sort and filter applied to recipe list
07:24.19Kerafyrmck: do you care now? or would you like link?
07:24.37ckknightsure, link
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07:26.43Kerafyrmtwo errors from cart no saved vars first time onto ptr
07:26.44Kerafyrmhttp://ace.pastey.net/75188
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07:28.11CIA-1203whitetooth * r51965 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
07:28.11CIA-12StatLogicLib:
07:28.11CIA-12- In 2.3.0: Support for Spell Damage bonus in +Healing stats
07:28.11CIA-12- Fixed: "Spell Power" now gives damage and healing
07:28.11CIA-12- Added parsing of threat mods in gems and enchants
07:28.12NeroxI have a question about a mod. Well, When I'm linking something to someone else through officer chat or something like that. They see the item and they also see the color code for the rarity of the item. Is their a way to get rid of that or fix it?
07:28.13CIA-12- Added staff skill rating stat
07:28.16Zhinjiodoes that also mean I"m going to need to manually handle the switching between Normal, Pushed and Disabled textures now if I manually created the texture?
07:29.25theoddone33I kind of wish they'd added a lowbie instance or two with tbc
07:29.33theoddone33for all the kiddies leveling blood elves and draenai
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07:31.16NeroxAnyone know why whenever I link an item to a seperate channel like a user created one it shows this?
07:31.17Nerox(CLINK:item:ffffffff:5507:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:Ornate Spyglass)
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07:32.31CIA-12RatingBuster: 1.2.8
07:32.31CIA-12- Fixed: +X Spell Power gives healing too
07:32.31CIA-12- In 2.3.0: Support for Spell Damage bonus in +Healing stats
07:32.44Kerafyrmsigh... ptr copy queue has opened up.. but us pve copies still fubar'd
07:33.38theoddone33whoa
07:33.44theoddone33they're doing that for 2.3?
07:33.53theoddone33that = spell damage in +heal
07:34.07theoddone33I heard it was planned for wotlk
07:34.12LaGGyno its 2.3
07:34.16Kerafyrmyu[
07:34.17Kerafyrmp
07:34.27theoddone33awesome
07:35.05art3misnerox: you've got chatlink enabled but dont ahve the support?
07:35.29art3misthats the only way to link on created channels
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07:37.09NeroxWhat's the support. Probably forgot to download it
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07:38.20CIA-1203mikk * r51967 10ChatThrottleLib/ChatThrottleLib.toc: ChatThrottleLib: Up toc to 20200
07:39.48art3misits built into phanx chat and prat i believe
07:39.58theoddone33man major changes to both classes I have 70s in for 2.3... i won't know which to play
07:40.08art3misand a couple other chat mods, but double check the others
07:40.44NeroxI'll check prat. Someone in my guild mentioned it before. Thanks art3mis
07:41.13CIA-1203whitetooth * r51968 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
07:41.13CIA-12StatLogicLib:
07:41.13CIA-12- Set debugging to false
07:41.28sylvanaarNerox if you are linking an item - then you already have a mod
07:43.30Zhinjionormaltexture is displaying corectly now. pushed and disabled textures are not.
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07:43.31ZhinjioFAIL
07:44.08grzesieqhmpf, lock nerfs started :/
07:44.30ckknighthehe, in the 80's, phones had cords
07:44.42ckknighthilarious.
07:46.14art3misthats just lies!
07:46.26art3misalthough i still snicker at 80's cell phones
07:46.35art3mislikes 3$ a minute
07:46.41art3misand the size of a brick
07:46.45Zhinjiook, got it working. stupid \\'s
07:47.51ckknightI like to do [[path\to\file]] instead of "path\\to\\file"
07:49.42Zhinjio*nod*, I noticed that.
07:49.59Zhinjiocan you still do [[path\to\file .. index .. \endoffile]] ??
07:50.03Zhinjio(to so spea)
07:50.13Zhinjiospeak*
07:50.46ckknightyou can't do that with quotes either
07:51.04ckknight[[path\to\file]] .. index ..[[\endoffile]]
07:51.17Zhinjiowell . yeah.
07:56.47cryogenok who put all the spam into ratingsbuster
07:57.01Gnarfozcryogen: get 51968.
07:57.37Gnarfozat least that's what I'm guessing "StatLogicLib: - Set debugging to false" meant ;)
07:58.14cryogenits not been zipped yet :(
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07:59.09cncfanaticshello ppl
07:59.12Gnarfozcryogen: too bad :P
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08:03.32Zhinjioprogress..
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08:03.57Gnarfozcryogen: it's there now
08:04.46cryogenso it is
08:04.57cncfanaticscryogen: moo
08:05.14Gnarfozmhh I like the Consolas fonts <3
08:05.15IxchaelDoes anyone know why FuBar cannot remember the "Show text" option for an addon?
08:06.33IxchaelOr where it stores that information?
08:06.43cryogenmoo indeed
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08:08.44NightHawkTheSaneIxchael: i think it's stored in the addon's ssv itself
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08:09.47IxchaelIn the account wide settings file?
08:10.19Gnarfozdepends on what the addon
08:11.05GnarfozOminous_: any further data updates to Cartographer_Data planned?
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08:15.22IxchaelYes, found the problem (the profile DB wasn't in the TOC :)) Thanks guys
08:15.47Gnarfozheh nice
08:15.49Gnarfozwhich addon is it?
08:15.56Gnarfozshould probably be fixed for all of us ;)
08:16.02IxchaelHistorian
08:19.27cncfanaticslemme fix that
08:20.03IxchaelI'll check in a fix in a sec
08:20.18IxchaelHave some other changes to it as well :)
08:21.13cncfanaticsthe DB's seem to be in the toc to me
08:21.20cncfanatics## SavedVariables: HistorianDB
08:21.20cncfanatics## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: HistorianCharDB
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08:21.47IxchaelThat's the old DB - not the Fubar one
08:21.59IxchaelLike I said, I'll check in a fix in a sec - appreciate it though :)
08:24.11cncfanaticsk k
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08:30.57infusehi, where can i download AtlasLoot Enhanced
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08:32.48CIA-12EnvenomX:
08:32.48CIA-12- Add tsvn:logtemplate
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08:34.38GnarfozXinhuan: is there any way of knowing the remaining time a background TSP will take?
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08:36.06infusei downloaded atlasloot but im trying to view something and it says load on demand module is needed: AtlasLoot_BCInstances
08:36.25Speeddymon_you need to download AtlasLoot_BCInstances
08:36.57infusewhere
08:37.12Speeddymon_same place you downloaded altasloot
08:37.50smoke_i know this is the wrong place to ask heh, but any of you use necb?
08:38.06Speeddymon_what is that showrt for?
08:38.09infuseit wasnt there
08:38.10Speeddymon_short*
08:38.25Speeddymon_where did you download atlasloot from?
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08:41.53IxchaelNECB = Natur Enemy Cast Bar
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08:42.28Speeddymon_hm.. i dont
08:43.07IxchaelI used to use it, but started looking for alternatives because it showed too much and had the worst config window ever :) I just want one that shows my own spells as well as the respawn timers on trash in raid dungeons. Haven't found that one yet.
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08:43.37CIA-12FuBar_MicroMenuFu:
08:43.37CIA-12- Add tsvn:logtemplate
08:44.19CIA-1203candykiss * r51974 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-zhCN.lua: RatingBuster: zhCN updated
08:44.31infuseWhere do I get AtlasLoot_BCInstances
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08:45.19CIA-12FuBar_MicroMenuFu:
08:45.19CIA-12-Reverted toc
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08:49.12Fisker-hahahahaha
08:49.17Fisker-those germans crack me up
08:49.23Fisker-their healers are called "Heilers"
08:49.37Fisker-and some guy has the name "Heilmann" :D
08:49.45manyso?
08:50.16Fisker-heil was also greeting used in nazi germany :O
08:50.37manyso? can you guess now why the word was chosen back then?
08:50.47Gnarfozheh
08:50.50Fisker-no u?
08:50.53Gnarfozindeed that's the reason
08:51.04manywell, i *am* german, i understand all those words ;)
08:51.13Gnarfozbecause "Heil" is also a noun, which means well-being
08:51.25infuseis there anyway to view the actual tier items in game, like from atlasloot or something
08:51.26manyyep
08:51.28Fisker-nice
08:51.32Fisker-it's funnier for non-germans though
08:51.36Gnarfozprobably
08:51.45manyactually its completely nonfunny.
08:51.49Fisker-wq:(
08:51.50Fisker-:(
08:51.54many:wq! ;)
08:52.03Fisker-i disagree!
08:52.10Gnarfozyeah, not so much because of the reference to nazi stuff, but it's simply not funny :D
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08:52.48Megaloni once thought about renaming my warrior to Hitler
08:52.54Megalonso we all can scream HEIL HITLER
08:52.57Megalonduring boss fights
08:52.59Megalonon ts
08:53.02Gnarfozlol
08:53.12Fisker-i'd do it
08:53.12Gnarfozcan't name him Hitler in WoW, anyway
08:53.15Gnarfozname blocked
08:53.23Fisker-Goebbels then
08:53.32infusehow can i do that
08:53.41Megalonwell, some laughed of the idea
08:53.44Megalonbut some didn't :<
08:53.53Gnarfozbut then... no one said Heil Goebbels anyway?
08:54.02Fisker-:(
08:54.12Fisker-nazitübbies do :(
08:54.22Megalonis 'meinfuehrer' blocked? :P
08:54.24Speeddymon_hmm.. stupid question, but even tho X-Category is a general metadata field, does it support multiple categories in some specific way?
08:54.24Megalon;D
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08:56.16vhaarrMegalon: americans probably didn't laugh
08:56.25vhaarrMegalon: they have no sense of humor when it comes to stuff like that
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08:59.57CIA-12- Bump TOC versions of 2.2-compatible addons
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09:04.46IxchaelIs there a standard way to add information to the About this addon"
09:04.56Ixchael...dialog (oops)
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09:05.05CIA-12FuBar_tTracker:
09:05.05CIA-12- Bump TOC to 20200, had to change category to get it to commit, sorry to the author.. Not sure why it was allowed to commit with multiple categories before, but it is saying invalid now.
09:05.14Fisker-BLIZZARD
09:05.27Kerafyrmwhere?
09:06.10Fisker-no
09:06.13Fisker-I hate them :(
09:06.21Fisker-Just wanted to do one of the cooking dailies
09:06.26Fisker-i need roaste clefthoof
09:06.43Fisker-and i have like 10 stacks of them on live but i deleted them on PTR
09:06.50Kerafyrmwhoops
09:08.06Fisker-oh well should be easy enough with added spelldamag
09:09.12Fisker-wtf
09:09.33Fisker-that's weird
09:09.43Fisker-oh wait nevermind
09:09.44Fisker-talent
09:10.20Fisker-677 bonus spell damage :)
09:10.53Fisker-pretty much double damage on consecration
09:11.10Fisker-i like where the thread is going
09:12.00Fisker-:OOO
09:12.04Fisker-HoW noncrit for 1200
09:12.32evlgawd damn
09:12.41evlgetting iPhone to 1.1.1 wasn't no small ordeal :D
09:12.54Fisker-not to mention you have a iPhone
09:13.03evlhacked all morning :P
09:13.03Fisker-yup, i went there
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09:14.58orionshockTekkub: re: ForumPM : true
09:15.47Fisker-orionshock oh u
09:15.54orionshockme?
09:15.56Fisker-yes u
09:16.05Ellipsisbah
09:16.07orionshockwho did i piss of now?
09:16.09Ellipsissomeone make Portal less scary =[
09:16.16Fisker-it's part of the OH U/NO U/YES U series
09:16.22orionshocklol
09:16.25Fisker-Ellipsis less scary? :I
09:16.54Fisker-then again my sound was borked the first pass
09:16.54Ellipsisyeah
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09:16.58EllipsisI'm a wimp when it comes to games
09:17.03Fisker-so took some of the edge of the game
09:18.01Fisker-i remember how Doom 3 sucked at making me a wimp in the game
09:18.01Fisker-even doom 1 had a better effect at that
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09:18.38Xinhuan[10/14 16:31:40] <Gnarfoz> Xinhuan: is there any way of knowing the remaining time a background TSP will take?
09:18.39Xinhuanno
09:18.46grzesieqanyone tested the daily pvp quests on ptr?
09:18.47Fisker-but Doom 3 was basically can't see shit, then npc in front of me pretending to be scary, after beaten it some shit will happen too make it scarier(but fail) and instead a new npc will appear behind me
09:18.58Xinhuanthe entire algorithm is based on random numbers
09:19.04Fisker-grzesieq what is there to test?
09:19.05EllipsisFisker-, are you a robot or something? :P
09:19.17Fisker-nah
09:19.19grzesieqFisker-: i wanna know the exact amount of honor awarded ;P
09:19.22Fisker-Doom 3 was just obvious
09:19.25Tekkubyea orionshock, I would have, but what I said
09:19.28Fisker-oh
09:19.38Fisker-i'll check it out if any AB's are up
09:19.48Fisker-btw
09:19.48grzesieqi only noticed that it gets added to your honor instantly not the next day
09:19.54Fisker-they're marked "Daily PVP"
09:19.59CodayusDoom 3?  Heh, too easy to mock that game.  Go through a hallway...zombie bursts from closet.  Go back through the hallway...zombie bursts from the back of the closet.  Go back through the hallway....yeah, you know the drill.
09:19.59grzesieqbut i failed at checking my honor before
09:20.06Fisker-so i wonder if they're going to make Daily Quests and Daily PvP Quests differ?
09:20.18grzesieqno, on the same counter, only 10 a day
09:20.21Fisker-exactly Codayus :P
09:20.46CodayusIf you make a zombie attack you every POSSIBLE time...it's not creepy, it's boring.  Now FEAR, was one scary game, and they did it by doing nothing to you at all...  :-)
09:20.55TekkubCodayus, kill Murmur, leave party, new party, kill Murmur?
09:21.12Brunerswill this cost only 20 badges? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33502
09:21.22Fisker-oh yeah Codayus
09:21.29Fisker-i gave up on that when the invisble men started attacking
09:21.31CodayusTekkub: Uh...?
09:21.48Tekkubjust saying... how's it different from respawns in Wow?
09:21.50Zhinjioif I want to put a out-of-line function in the set/get method of an options list, do I need to provide an argumnet skeleton on that line, or just in the place where the fnction is defined?
09:21.51Fisker-like fast zombies in HL2 but invisible :I
09:21.58CodayusTekkub: WoW isn't meant to be scary.
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09:22.12Tekkubyou don't visit the o.forums then
09:22.16NargiddleyZhinjio, only where its declared
09:22.21Zhinjiook. coool.
09:22.28BrunersCodayus: for kids horde can be scary
09:22.33Nargiddleyuse the name only where you put it into the table
09:22.41CodayusThe point of the scary ambush is....  "dum de dum....OMG ZOMBIE THROUGH THE WALL WTF! *pant pant*"
09:22.47Zhinjiois it also considered a "forward" declaration ... so like, the actual function can appear later?
09:22.51Zhinjioor does it have to be before
09:23.19Nargiddleybefore
09:23.24art3mishttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366679754&sid=1
09:23.25CodayusDoom 3...  "Hey, I bet if I walk past that odd looking panel a zombie will spawn.  Hey it did.  Hmm, I could use some more shotgun shells.  Oh look, another.  Why do the closets in this stupid place have secrets panels for zombies to hide in, anyhow?"
09:23.32Borked|Raiderdoes it take many lines of code to make a simple lua script that display a texture ingame (given the path in the lua file also) just to see how it looks?
09:23.46art3misheh i read zombie and though RE3
09:23.53Fisker-not to mention that the shadowing seemed very unrealistic
09:24.09Fisker-was like the shadow was a black object behind the object you used your flashlight on
09:24.10Zhinjiothanks Nargiddley
09:24.21art3mis"hey theres no zombies here i bet that, AHHHH *BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*, there arent any here
09:24.46CodayusSrsly, HL (1) was scarier just because of head crabs.
09:25.01art3miscollege flashback?
09:25.03CodayusWhereas in FEAR...  After a little bit you start freaking out over empty hallways.
09:25.52Ellipsisso yeah, um, I don't think I can finish Portal :(
09:26.07CodayusEllipsis: Oh?  Bug or?
09:26.13art3misdon't have the tseticular fortitude?
09:26.26Ellipsisno...I'm scared to death
09:26.46CodayusA guild mate of mine said he got to lvl 18 and had to lie down; apparently the game made him disoriented and nauseaus.  oO
09:26.46art3miscody: did you ever play alone in the dark 4 a new nightmare?
09:26.56Ellipsisthe last hour or so I've been doing in 30-second bursts or so, alt-tabbing between to calm myself down :(
09:27.03Codayusart3mis: Nope...
09:27.16CodayusEllipsis: heh, it's quite a story line
09:27.17Ellipsisyeah, I had a friend who said the game gave him horrible motion sickness
09:27.21art3misyou should give it a try the story is lame but they did a great job on the atmosphere
09:27.43art3mislike things running in front of the camera that arent there when you turn yer character around
09:27.51CodayusHeh
09:27.52CodayusNice
09:28.05art3misconstant sound effects of things creepy up on you but again nothing there
09:28.19art3misfatal frame and siren are great too for the ps2
09:28.24CodayusTrue story:  I got really really freaked out by Doom 1 once while playing in a dark room alone.  In my defense, I was pretty damn young at the time.
09:28.28art3misi generally p[lay them with sound up and lights off
09:28.40CodayusBut still, it seems funny to think of now.
09:28.43art3misfatal frame had me scared
09:29.00art3misheh the alone in teh darks have always gotten me to jump
09:29.37art3misbut FF and siren are just friggin creepy
09:29.42art3misdamn japanese bastards
09:29.51Ellipsiso.O
09:29.55art3misyou can only see  the ghouls and spirits and stuff through this old camera
09:30.02art3misand you snap pics to "damage them"
09:30.17art3misso you get fleeting views of these creepy things attacking you
09:30.23art3misand most of the time all you can do it run
09:30.46art3misand you REALLY dont wanna look in the camera after a while cuz you're 90% sure that its standing right in front of you waiting
09:31.57art3misimagine if you could take the effects of the ju-on grudge and the original ring-o
09:32.10art3misand base an entire video game just around the creepy flash backs and effects
09:32.13buuart3mis: Sounds like doom3
09:32.23art3misdoom3 wasnt bad
09:32.33art3misit was good but it was "fake" ish
09:32.38buuPeople who modified it to use the flashlight and a gun completely missed the point =[
09:32.54Ellipsiswhy do the gun thingies get to shoot through walls but I don't? :(
09:33.10art3miscuz yer a girl
09:33.13art3misand it knows...
09:33.15Ellipsisoh ok
09:33.26Ellipsisit can probably tell by the way I play
09:33.33CodayusHm, shoot through walls?
09:33.34art3misand the whimpering ;P
09:33.37theoddone33hmm the new version of flock lets me search wowhead from the title bar
09:33.41theoddone33that's kind of handy
09:34.52buuIs anyone familiar with an addon called 'Demond' ?
09:34.54buuEr, Demon
09:35.06CodayusSomewhat.
09:35.10CodayusI use it, if that's what you mean.
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09:35.33CodayusI love it a lot, although to be honest, it's wiped my raid more than once.  :-(
09:36.32buuReally?
09:36.36buuWhere do I find it?
09:36.50CodayusDemon?  files.wowace.com?
09:37.56buuOh. Is there an actual like, description someplace?
09:38.23orionshock.... >.>
09:38.33CodayusHm
09:38.44orionshocki'd like to send the mob after some people in this room... but in the end it wouldn't do any good at all.
09:39.42CodayusI can't find a good one.
09:39.44Codayushttp://elitistjerks.com/f32/t16267-demon_debuff_monitor_pdebufflist2/
09:39.48CodayusThere's a bad one.  :-)
09:40.14art3misyay got my racing ram
09:40.27buuSo, er, about this fubar thing.
09:40.53buuI've got like, a billion minimap icons. If I install fubar, will it help me with this problem?
09:40.59CodayusSure
09:41.12buuLike, automagically?
09:41.12CodayusThen you'll have a billion fubar icons, but that's better.
09:41.24CIA-1203ixchael * r51979 10Historian/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
09:41.24CIA-12Historian:
09:41.24CIA-12- The FuBar plugin now remembers profile information, such as the "Show text" option.
09:41.24CIA-12- Added a "First use" command to output the first time statistics was gathered for the current character.
09:41.26buuI like how this sounds.
09:41.57CodayusWell, kinda.  If you use Ace mods, then most of your minimap icons are probably fubar icons.  Install fubar and they'll all migrate to your fubar bar(s).
09:42.04buuSexy.
09:42.12CodayusIt can't do anything about OTHER random mods that want to add minimap icons.
09:42.16Ellipsisalthough regardless of having fubar or not, most of them can be hidden with "hide plugin"
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09:42.20buuI see.
09:42.25art3mismini button bar
09:42.28art3misgo get that
09:42.36buuCouldn't you like, install an addon that over-rode the minimap button frame?
09:42.43Ellipsisnote that there are some addons written exclusively for fubar-izing stubborn minimap buttons
09:42.51Ellipsise.g. SWStats2Fu
09:42.56Lothaerwhat UF mod would let me do this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/FFVIIbattlexample.jpg
09:43.05Codayusbuu: Right, see art3mis' comment.  But personally, I have like...1 or maybe 2 minimap icons, so meh.
09:43.31buuI'm trying to find it.
09:43.34EllipsisI have zero ^-^
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09:44.13GngskLothaer, the one you write
09:44.54Lothaerlet me refrase the question
09:45.01Gngskphrase?
09:45.14Gngskguess if you can't write a sentance you won't be writing a UF mod
09:45.19Lothaeris there a Unit Frame mod that will let move the Name HP and MP Bars independantly
09:45.36Ellipsisuh, maybe discord
09:45.49Kerafyrmdiscord
09:45.53Kerafyrmported discord that is
09:45.57Borked|RaiderFridgid, around?
09:46.17Ellipsisalso, Gngsk? you failed
09:46.27Ellipsis"sentence" would be the correct spelling ;)
09:46.38Gngskit was on porpoise
09:46.54Kerafyrmobviously
09:47.14Ellipsisriiiight
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09:47.38Ellipsiswell I'm gonna go do the least scary thing I can think of for a bit
09:47.39CodayusAnd none of you are capitalizing or using periods appropriately!  that's terrible
09:47.43buuart3mis: Where does this mini button bar hide?
09:47.46Ellipsisand unfortunately, IRCing with you guys isn't it
09:47.49buuAnd what does it do?
09:49.05theoddone33oh man
09:49.09theoddone33these ptr patch notes are epic
09:49.18theoddone3320% discount at exalted
09:49.32Brunerson reapairs?
09:49.37CodayusEverything...
09:49.38theoddone33on everything
09:49.39Borked|RaiderFridgid, join me at #rdx-dev sometime when you around and if you see this.
09:49.40CodayusOr it should be.
09:49.44Brunersnice
09:49.56theoddone33lessened experience for 20-60
09:50.07CodayusOf course, most people spend about a thousand more gold on repairs than anything else from vendors.  :-)
09:50.15CodayusEr, a thousand TIMES even.
09:50.17theoddone33escape artist nerf
09:50.33Codayustheoddone33: It's a pretty huge patch.
09:50.40theoddone33it's epic
09:50.48theoddone33I'm really liking the changes so far
09:50.52CodayusYar
09:51.08theoddone33ah crap
09:51.12theoddone33then I got to the PVP section
09:51.23CodayusWell, I'm a bit annoyed that human priests will now be the possessor of the single worst priest racial...  (Feedback.)
09:51.27Fisker-ok fuck this grzesieq
09:51.31Fisker-waste of tiem
09:51.45theoddone33rogue nerf in wsg with flag dropping debuff
09:52.29Fisker-your mother etc.
09:53.04buuHow can FuBar_VoiceFu actually work?
09:53.33CodayusLast I heard, it didn't...
09:53.38buuHeh.
09:53.48theoddone33hah this AV change is hilarious
09:53.54theoddone33you can end AV by farming the other team
09:53.56buuOh god, do I install FuBar or FuBar2 ?!
09:55.01Fisker-anyways i'm sorry grzesieq :(
09:55.14Fisker-Horde plays like retards, we're undermanned and a new AB takes 15 minutes to get into
09:55.27Fisker-10v15 :(
09:55.29theoddone33that is kind of stupid... now you can win an AV by turtling
09:55.41theoddone33and it might even be easier
09:55.58theoddone33but if you cap all the towers you don't have to kill marshalls
09:55.59Fisker-why can you do that?
09:56.00buuMaybe.
09:56.08theoddone33because the conditions for victory are changed
09:56.12buuUsually offense is easier though.
09:56.15Fisker-i know
09:56.18Fisker-my question remains
09:56.22buuIt allows you apply more power in specific locations.
09:56.32Kerafyrmwhich is irritating
09:56.42Kerafyrmwrong window.. ;P
09:56.47theoddone33player deaths reduce the "reinforcements"
09:56.50Fisker-yes
09:56.56Fisker-so does towers
09:56.58theoddone33meaning if you kill enough of the other team you can win without killing the general
09:57.08Fisker-So you turtle, you lose a buttload of reinforcements on towers
09:57.17theoddone33ok, sure
09:57.25theoddone33then they have to kill less of you than you do of them
09:57.35Fisker-also if the other team is coordinated enough to turtle you should be coordinated enough to not die that much
09:57.50Fisker-yup
09:58.00theoddone33I dunno, it's been my experience that defense always generates many more HKs than offense
09:58.00Fisker-You destroy their tower and your team lose reinforcement points
09:58.05Fisker-i can definitely see the logic in that
09:58.29theoddone33in any case it will be a much different battleground
09:58.50Fisker-different isn't a negative way
09:58.59theoddone33didn't mean to imply that it was
09:59.36Fisker-I think it's nice though
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09:59.46theoddone33it will be good for a change
09:59.59Fisker-Cause for horde we pretty much have 2 options: Zerg, and lose, Defend and play a 4 hour AV we eventually lose anyways
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10:00.11theoddone33it'd be nice if pugging wsg and ab gave similar honor so not everyone was always doing av
10:00.15Fisker-Alliance side is just too easy to defend
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10:00.36Fisker-FUDGE sylvanaar
10:00.37theoddone33since the last patch it's been race and horde wins 60% or so
10:00.44theoddone33on my battlegroup
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10:01.14Fisker-well our realm balance is pretty screwed
10:01.20Fisker-it's overall a lot more horde than alliance
10:01.26Bibi`Fisker- sucks !
10:01.33Fisker-so we get a lot of shitty 61's and such
10:01.40Fisker-where we don't see much of that on the alliance guys
10:01.47theoddone33hmm paladin downranking heal nerf
10:01.48Fisker-your mother Bibi`
10:01.54theoddone33but cleanse buff!
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10:02.01Bibi`The only girl in my life is Alexa Fisker-.
10:02.05Bibi`She's nice !
10:02.09Bibi`http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=www.mmo-champion.com
10:02.10Fisker-:O
10:02.30Chompersthe only girl for me is Fisker-
10:02.48Fisker-hahahah
10:03.31theoddone33oh man paladin talent tree makeover is just ridiculous
10:03.39theoddone33undispellable seals!
10:04.09Fisker-they need it
10:04.18Fisker-but i want mah healing buffs back
10:04.19theoddone3330 second vengeance
10:04.24theoddone33yeah lots of ret buffs
10:04.33Fisker-pisses me off like hell that 3 other classes get major healing buffs but we get nada
10:04.35Chompersi don't think it's enough
10:04.42Fisker-cleanse buff is automatically awesome though
10:04.50Fisker-but probably gonna be cause for much QQ'ing in pvp
10:04.50theoddone33blessing of light is getting nerfed
10:04.55theoddone33cleanse buff is pretty nice
10:05.10buuIs there a bigwig addon that does the "DND - in boss fight, blah blah" stuff?
10:05.14theoddone33I wonder if people will be going 41/0/20 now
10:05.28Fisker-buu i think BossWhisperer can do that :o
10:05.28Chompersaaah fuck
10:05.38Chompersthe ptr is doing the 'unknown' bug too
10:05.46Fisker-theoddone33 got any link for the talents?
10:05.51Diaobosswhisperer is bugged for me
10:05.52Diao:(
10:05.55buuFisker-: Ah.
10:05.55Diaoit never does the autoreply
10:05.58Fisker-I'm a heal bot so totally skipped the whole ret part
10:06.06Diaoi read it might have a conflict with wim though
10:06.25theoddone33wowhead has no updated tree
10:06.38Kerafyrmewww paladin
10:06.55Fisker-sylvanaar you here?
10:07.06theoddone33pursuit of justice getting big buffs, 35 point talent in ret getting moved to like 10 points
10:07.40CIA-1203pettigrow * r51980 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Jan'alai.lua Nalorakk.lua): BigWigs: ZulAman: frFR Update
10:07.44Fisker-~seen sylvanaar
10:07.46purlsylvanaar is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 11h 44m 56s) #norganna (1d 11h 44m 56s) #wowace (1d 11h 44m 56s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 2h 26m 19s, last said: 'Nerox if you are linking an item - then you already have a mod'.
10:08.21theoddone33crusader strike cooldown reduced by almost half, and vengeance duration doubled
10:08.56theoddone33vindication buffed quite a bit
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10:10.52theoddone33woo no more blind regeant
10:10.59theoddone33guess I'd better sell my fadeleaf now
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10:14.57Fisker-man i hate sylvanaar :(
10:15.15Fisker-changed the layout of prat and WAU couldn't handle it
10:15.54theoddone3324 slot quivers?!
10:16.34Fisker-no u
10:16.48Fisker-that reminds me of the über funnies
10:16.58Fisker-the new repair bot costs :D
10:17.02Fisker-totally laughable
10:17.11Fisker-the only addition to the repair bot is reagents
10:17.31Gngskmats aren't that bad
10:17.45Fisker-And i can already tell you now that if ANYONE in your raid is in a position where he doesn't have enough reagents then he should never raid again
10:18.02Kerafyrmesp with the vendors in raid zones
10:18.02Gngskit lasts 10 minutes though
10:18.05Gngskthat's totally an upgrade
10:18.10CorganField Repair Bot 110G
10:18.15CorganGIT IT
10:18.19CorganTHATS HWO MUCH IT'LL COST
10:18.21Corganhow*
10:18.31Fisker-no u
10:18.33Gngskcosts 1/2 hour of farming ore
10:18.50Corganthat'll be 110g
10:19.09Fisker-or, or!
10:19.11theoddone33Cooldown removed from Noggenfogger Elixirs.  <-- epic change
10:19.35Fisker-1/2 hour of farming ore and then selling them on AH and make 5-10 normal repair bots instead
10:19.44Corganlol
10:20.13buuSo..
10:20.23buuWhat was the name of that thingy that hid the rock minimap icon?
10:20.41buuOr did it get added to rock itself
10:20.42Fisker-i thought rock did that itself
10:20.47Fisker-ownt
10:20.56Corganlawl
10:21.30Fisker-actually
10:21.35Fisker-you can change it between minimap and fubar
10:21.44Fisker-oh
10:21.49Fisker-and hide the fubar plugin afterwards
10:22.00Fisker-so yeah can be done with rock
10:22.07buuHA HA
10:22.12theoddone33wow... they added a quest that tells you that you can buy a flying mount
10:22.14buuThere's like, 5 options.
10:22.24theoddone33I guess people hit 70 without realizing it??
10:22.27buuAnd one of them is 'hide minimap'
10:22.31CIA-1203trasher * r51981 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua:
10:22.31CIA-12AtlasLoot:
10:22.32CIA-12- Update french
10:22.38Fisker-it's for new players :(
10:23.17Fisker-i leveled on a gangarg or whatever outside shadowmoon valley and bought epic :O
10:26.08theoddone33I like that mods drive blizzaard's development
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10:26.21theoddone33"class color in channels?? brilliant!"
10:27.06Fisker-no such thing Theo[FH]2
10:27.07Fisker-theoddone33
10:27.21Fisker-only in who frames and what not
10:27.43theoddone33well I have class colors in trade
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10:27.52buuWhich addon would you recommend for like, customization of my chat windows? Mainly from a graphics perspective?
10:27.59theoddone33because mods have done a /who on those people
10:28.01Corganeepanels amirite?
10:28.21CIA-1203roartindon * r51982 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: Assessment: BarInterface - hopefully fixed reports with no titles
10:29.20buuCorgan: What is this prat thingy?
10:29.37CIA-1203whitetooth * r51983 10RatingBuster/ (3 files):
10:29.37CIA-12RatingBuster:
10:29.37CIA-12- Commented out some locale errors, needs to be updated
10:31.38Fisker-damnit
10:31.50Fisker-none of those crate fishing schools are working in PTR
10:32.11Fisker-now it's your fault i don't want to play WoW anymore Corgan
10:32.16Fisker-ascii middlefinger to you
10:32.59Corganwhat
10:33.05Corganyour welcome
10:35.48buuHrmph.
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10:40.07buuOk, so how do I get rid of the default chat window?
10:40.30Gnarfozdo I have to escape [ and ] inside a string?
10:41.25Gnarfoz~pil
10:41.26purlsomebody said pil was Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language.  The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0.  The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
10:42.35Ellipsisbuu: you don't
10:42.39Ellipsislike, really, you don't
10:42.41Gnarfozhmm, it says I have to, but the file I'm looking at uses ['some text [blah, also variables in here]']
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10:44.08buuEllipsis: Er, surely, someway.
10:44.26Ellipsiswhen I say you don't, I mean you don't
10:44.37buuEllipsis: So how do all those screenshots and addons and such do it?
10:44.39GnarfozChatFrame1:Hide() ? :>
10:44.47Ellipsisit is *really really really* difficult to hide the chat frames and keep them hidden
10:44.53Ellipsisbuu: example?
10:45.06buuAlso I've managed to move the deamchat configuration button off the edge of the screen.. now I can't modify it.
10:45.16Ellipsisall chat addons that I know of (other than DreamChat) modify the default frames rather than creating their own
10:45.22Ellipsisand DreamChat doesn't hide the default ones
10:45.23CIA-1203toadkiller * r51984 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua:
10:45.23CIA-12Waterfall-1.0:
10:45.23CIA-12Add a finalSetOnly attribute to the range type. This makes it do only one final setValue on buttonUp. This makes it more feasible to use a slider to say move things around in AutoBar.
10:45.31CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r638 10/trunk/ (Quelevel Quelevel/Quelevel.lua Quelevel/Quelevel.toc): Importing Quel'evel, adds quest level in the log and watch frame titles
10:45.32buuEllipsis: Can you suggest some addons that modify it?
10:45.40Ellipsisdepends what you're looking for
10:45.46EllipsisPrat is the swiss army knife of chat addons
10:45.52Ellipsisif it can be done, Prat probably does it
10:45.53buuDoes it modify the actual appearance?
10:46.00Ellipsisof the text, yeah
10:46.04buuOf the frame.
10:46.05Ellipsisand the editbox (slightly)
10:46.08Ellipsisnah
10:46.25Ellipsisif you  see anyone with a fancy background on their chat frames, it's chat frame alpha set to 0 with an eePanel behind
10:46.33buuI was sort of enjoying dreamchat, but I couldn't whisper people and I couldn't figure out how to move it.
10:46.42buuEllipsis: What about those pesky scroll buttons?
10:46.54Ellipsis99.9% of chat addons deal with those
10:47.01a^i`SmaNbuu: use minichat then, its kinda the same
10:47.19EllipsisMiniChat does wonders for making default chat frames act like DreamChat's
10:47.26Ellipsisas far as minimizing and anchoring
10:47.37buuWell, that wasn't the part I liked.
10:47.52buuMaybe I did.
10:47.53Ellipsiswell, what all do you need?
10:48.19buuEllipsis: Not terribly sure.. to make it look prettier I guess.
10:48.29theoddone33people that RP on the mods forum kind of scare me
10:48.30Ellipsisyou are so wonderfully specific
10:48.47EllipsisI really can't help you find what you're looking for with a description like that :P
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10:49.55buuEllipsis: Yeah, sorry.
10:50.15buuEllipsis: I have no idea what I want! I want .. beautiful add ons everywhere I look!
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10:50.23Ellipsisriiiight
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10:50.55a^i`SmaNbuu: Good luck !
10:50.56Ellipsiswell, if you have *really* basic needs, Minimalist's chat options may be enough for you
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10:51.13Ellipsisotherwise, try mumble or PhanxChat
10:51.30Egresthey guys.
10:51.53Ellipsisand if you decide you want the minimizing stuff, MiniChat should work with any of those
10:51.53EgrestAnyone know how I can remove the green borders around equipped items in Bartender 3?
10:52.05CIA-1203toadkiller * r51985 10AutoBar/ (6 files):
10:52.05CIA-12AutoBar:
10:52.05CIA-12-- 2.02.03.8 beta
10:52.05CIA-12-- Windfury Weapon not Windfury, for shaman weapon buffs.
10:52.05CIA-12-- Fix failure to launch style at start
10:52.06CIA-12-- Wafer thin improvement to rearranging buttons. Can create phantom duplicates that go away on reset.
10:52.21a^i`SmaNEgrest: afaik, you cant since its Blizz's stuff
10:52.21charonyay for my battlegroup! queue times are just long enought that you can comfortable do dailies! ALL OF THEM! of course you'll need to do something else during the second wait.
10:52.36charons/comfortable/comfortably/
10:53.16Egrestalright, thanks a^i`SmaN
10:53.56a^i`SmaN\o
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10:56.58GnarfozXinhuan: "(more cause near exponential increase in time)" <-- does this mean "one more = almost double the time"?
10:57.12Xinhuannot that bad
10:57.25Xinhuanits like O(5N^3)
10:57.38Gnarfozstill quite bad, tho, right? ^^
10:57.43Xinhuanyep
11:03.45GrumDoes anyone can recommend an addon that will allow you to zoom out more than normal?
11:04.09a^i`SmaNotweaks
11:04.13Grumkk
11:07.42orionshockany one else seeing weirdness with Assessment's Report to wisper?
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11:09.27Megalonorionshock: reports me as second on dmg done
11:09.33Megalonthis has to be fixed!
11:11.22Speeddymon_damnit
11:11.38orionshocklol
11:11.50orionshockMegalon: that name sounds like a retard pally
11:11.53orionshockare you?
11:12.06orionshock<PROTECTED>
11:12.06Megalonnope :(
11:12.43Speeddymon_fucking blizzard deprecating yet another addon
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11:13.59Speeddymon_scoresort.. i was workin on makin it 2.2 compatible, and after disabling it realized that the motherfucking default blizz bg scoreboard already does everything scoresort did..
11:14.11Xinhuanlol
11:14.19Xinhuanyou didn't know the default Ui did it in 2.1?
11:14.27Gnarfoz;D
11:14.34Gnarfozyeah, that's been in quite a while now =D
11:14.39orionshockRogue DM report : 2. Backstab (181), 217k, Average: 1202, Maximum: 1906
11:14.41orionshock>.>
11:14.44orionshocknub rogue
11:14.48Xinhuanbeen in the game like.. some 5 months
11:14.54GnarfozXinhuan: did a deDE localization for routes - want me to mail/pastey it somewhere or should I commit it?
11:15.04Speeddymon_nup.. didnt know that cause i havent gone into a bg in a long ass time
11:15.14Xinhuanjust commit it, and add the file in TOC
11:15.41Xinhuanand i'll check if there's errors later
11:16.06Xinhuanchatting here only cos BT trash is kinda boring
11:16.27GnarfozXinhuan: one question before I do, the enUS one has commented out stuff at the top, a small if block. should I uncomment it and change it so it only loads the localization if GetLocale == deDE? (I guess that's what it's for)
11:16.37Xinhuanyep that's the idea
11:17.14Gnarfoz"if ( GetLocale() ~= "deDE" ) then return end"
11:17.18Xinhuanyep
11:17.32Xinhuanso the whole thing doesn't even get executed, no table created, no function created, if it isn't deDE
11:17.40Gnarfozyeah, I figured
11:17.44Xinhuanand the file gets GCed
11:17.53GnarfozI hope my client does commits to branches correctly, we'll see in a minute ^^
11:19.24CIA-1203gnarfoz 07WIP * r51986 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Locale-deDE.lua: Cartographer_Routes - Added deDE localization
11:19.29Gnarfozlooks like it
11:19.38Xinhuanyou forgot the TOC file
11:20.33Gnarfozd'oh, no, I just chose "commit" from the context menu of the localization file
11:21.52CIA-1203gnarfoz 07WIP * r51987 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes.toc: Cartographer_Routes - update .toc also
11:26.03manyWIP? :)
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11:26.43Fisker-work in progress
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11:27.03many:)
11:27.12AdysWow
11:27.20AdysBasilisks cant swim
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11:28.00buuHrm hrm. Is there anyway to scale a PitBull frame?
11:28.29CIA-1203helium * r51988 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer_Professions/Professions.lua): Cartographer: updated zhTW localization
11:28.50CIA-1203helium * r51989 10Cartographer_Cleanup/Cartographer_Cleanup.toc:
11:28.50CIA-12Cartographer_Cleanup:
11:28.50CIA-12- bump toc to 20200
11:29.20CIA-1203helium * r51990 10Cartographer_Data/Cartographer_Data.toc: Cartographer_Data: bump toc to 20200
11:29.20manyDownloading http://debian.n-ix.net/debian//dists/etch Contents-i386.gz ...
11:29.21many100%[====================================>] 11,356,530     9.41M/s
11:29.30manyiam impressed the harddisk manages to write that off
11:29.51CIA-1203helium * r51991 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism.toc: Cartographer_Herbalism: make the title same as other module
11:29.57orionshockmany: IDE can handle ... 100mb/s sustaned xfer
11:30.10CIA-1203helium * r51992 10Cartographer_Mailboxes/Cartographer_Mailboxes.toc:
11:30.10CIA-12Cartographer_Mailboxes:
11:30.10CIA-12- bump toc
11:30.10CIA-12- make the title same as other module
11:30.11manythats a amd k6
11:30.19buuUh.
11:30.27CIA-1203helium * r51993 10Cartographer_Mining/Cartographer_Mining.toc:
11:30.27CIA-12Cartographer_Mining:
11:30.28CIA-12- make the title same as other module
11:30.31manythe bus wont certainly be able tp write 100 mbit =)
11:30.43buuIt certainly should.
11:30.51buuBut anyway, how do I make these things smaller.
11:30.55CIA-1203helium * r51994 10Cartographer_Trainers/Cartographer_Trainers.toc:
11:30.55CIA-12Cartographer_Trainers
11:30.55CIA-12- make the title same as other module
11:31.03manywhich things?
11:31.14manyah
11:31.17manypitbull frames.
11:31.20CIA-1203helium * r51995 10Cartographer_Vendors/Cartographer_Vendors.toc:
11:31.20CIA-12Cartographer_Vendors
11:31.20CIA-12- make the title same as other module
11:33.31Gnarfoz<many> thats a amd k6 <-- so what? Busmastering + DMA transfers make CPU usage minimal
11:34.10buuYeah.
11:34.16CIA-1203speeddymon * r51996 10RaidGroupNumber/ (. RaidGroupNumber.lua):
11:34.16CIA-12RaidGroupNumber:
11:34.16CIA-12- Added tsvn:logtemplate
11:34.16CIA-12- Temporary workaround for LUA error when unloading other addons thru Khaos
11:34.18buuSurely there's some way to .. modify this.
11:34.30manyoh. indeed. i did turn DMA on for the disk
11:34.31Gnarfozchange the scale? :D
11:34.51Gnarfozshould be in the settings for each kind of unit oO
11:35.11GnarfozI'll check after reboot, gotta test if this USB add on card is dead or my dad's PCI slots are
11:35.14Gnarfoz:D
11:36.45buuGnarfoz: Er, how?
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11:43.38orionshocki want to kill this rogue.. won't use any other move than backstab
11:44.20CIA-1203speeddymon * r51997 10/trunk/ (10 files in 10 dirs):
11:44.20CIA-12.trunk:
11:44.20CIA-12- Added more tsvn:logtemplates
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11:50.07buuHrmph hrmph hrmh.
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12:00.14CIA-1203speeddymon * r51998 10/trunk/ (12 files in 12 dirs):
12:00.14CIA-12.trunk:
12:00.14CIA-12- Bump TOC version to 20200 on various 2.2 compatible mods
12:01.56orionshocklol @ toc bumps
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12:02.55icebreakerhi, is there any Ace autoresponder / answering machine?
12:03.30orionshockIm Sorry but the IRC channel is close for the night, please return in the morning when someone is arround... have a day :D
12:03.40icebreaker:E
12:03.42orionshockj/k
12:04.11Speeddymon_have a day.. orion?
12:04.14Speeddymon_lol
12:04.24Speeddymon_s/a day/a nice day/
12:04.31Speeddymon_?
12:05.15orionshocknow say it outloud with a touch of "im an ass hole" feel to it
12:05.42Speeddymon_orion.. u updated your copy of xloot lately?
12:05.57Speeddymon_cause those errors it puked for you cant be on the current version
12:06.42Speeddymon_to answer your question icebreaker, no there isn't
12:07.00icebreakerok ty :(
12:07.04Speeddymon_np
12:07.31orionshockSpeeddymon_:  oh but it is
12:07.51Speeddymon_then wtf.. cause there is no unpack() anywhere around the lines you have pasted..
12:08.16Speeddymon_can you reproduce the errors at will?
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12:08.27orionshockim sure if i tried
12:08.35Speeddymon_lol
12:09.07buuOk, I figured out how to scale it in general
12:09.11buuBut how do I change font sizes?
12:10.34Speeddymon_night all
12:10.56buuOh, lawl, there it is.
12:11.14orionshockSpeeddymon_:
12:11.24orionshockit's got something to do with the behaviors options
12:14.16CIA-1203stan * r51999 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-deDE.lua:
12:14.16CIA-12Skillet:
12:14.16CIA-12- deDE Update
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12:16.00Fisker-http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/revoketool.html <-wow only took them a billion years!
12:16.24sag_ich_nichtsomeone know what funkydude meant with uncomment in the change to sharedmedia? i assume he's reffering to the .toc? :X
12:17.13sag_ich_nichtyupp, definitinly the .toc
12:17.47CIA-1203xinhuan 07WIP * r52000 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Locale-deDE.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Fix a string.
12:18.10icebreakerhow about this one? http://files.wowace.com/AMP/    <--- does it have AutoRespond function?
12:20.25hastetry and see
12:20.31orionshockice... instead of randomly ask questions like you have done... download it and find out
12:20.51orionshockthat's the nice part about mods.. download - futz with - if it don't suite your needs - delete and try again
12:20.57buuWell, that's closer.
12:21.04buuBut why are my party frames a different opacity?
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12:31.17buuAlso.. that pesky beacon frame is annoying me.
12:31.24buuIs there an easy way to clear it?
12:34.00icebreakerguys, sorry for disturbing :) this is my last question. Is anyone bored enough to help me making very simple "DND macro" ? Like: button pressed once: /dnd + display/popup message "ON", pressed second time: clear dnd + display "OFF" :)
12:34.18icebreakerreally need that :C
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12:41.19CIA-1203hegarol * r52001 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
12:41.19CIA-12AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
12:41.19CIA-12- ZA update
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12:46.48Fisker-ahahah UT3 sucks
12:47.27Gnarfozany SVN admins around?
12:47.40Mecdemortwhat's a good specimen addon to look at for using AceModule
12:48.07Gnarfozoh I see, GM-Teleporter was already removed
12:48.11Gnarfoznevermind then ^^
12:48.43Fisker-gm teleporter? :I
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12:49.54Gnarfozeasy access to pre-defined .worldport coorindate pairs for a certain kind of private server
12:50.06Gnarfozthrough a fubar plugin, from what I saw in the code
12:50.24Gnarfoz*coordinate
12:50.33Fisker-arrr
12:50.46Fisker-one should make one like that for PTR
12:50.47Fisker->D
12:50.49Fisker-:D
12:51.13Gnarfoz? how would that do anything?
12:51.22Mecdemortosmosis
12:51.45Fisker-Gnarfoz sometimes Blizzard forgets to restrict the worldport and port commands
12:51.45Gnarfoz~huh
12:51.46purlWelcome to ICQ.
12:51.58GnarfozFisker-: oh, they do? lol
12:52.08Fisker-think it's happened 3 times now
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12:52.48XinhuanGnarfoz, did you find any bugs
12:52.50Xinhuanin routes?
12:52.59GnarfozXinhuan: none so far
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12:53.06Gnarfozvery very nice to use already :)
12:53.15Xinhuanfixed a string
12:53.20Xinhuanyou surrounded with [[ ]]
12:53.24Xinhuanand then put in " "
12:53.26Xinhuanon top of that
12:53.29Gnarfozoh
12:53.37Gnarfozthought those were still necessary, thanks ^^
12:54.27Gnarfozwasn't sure because PIL said I should escape [ and ], but you didn't
12:57.17Xinhuan[[ ]] is the same as " " and ' '
12:57.25Xinhuanand the same as [-[ ]-]
12:57.31Xinhuanand [--[ ]--]
12:57.34Xinhuanand [---[ ]---]
12:57.35Xinhuanetc
12:57.48Xinhuanpretty dumb huh?
12:58.02Gnarfozhm
12:58.20Xinhuanas many dashes as you want as long as the open/close matches
12:58.28Xinhuanso you cam embed any string inside another
12:58.29GnarfozPIL says [[ ]] is the same as " " and ' ', except you don't need to escape inside there?
12:58.33Xinhuanyep
12:58.45Xinhuanany string with the [[ ]] format doesn't need escapes
12:59.10Gnarfozthen why aren't the brackets in here not escaped, but still work? :D ['Optimize route [%d nodes, %d yards]']
12:59.19Xinhuanbecause its single
12:59.22Xinhuannot ]]
12:59.30Gnarfozahh
12:59.32GnarfozI get it :>
12:59.42Xinhuan[ and ] aren't magic characters in the first place
12:59.43nevcairielthat [ ] is just a table key
12:59.43nevcairiel:)
12:59.53Gnarfozas long as you use one of the others, it's fine
12:59.53Xinhuanwhen used in a string
13:02.07Gnarfozyay, window blinds 6
13:02.15Gnarfozperhaps some of the longer standing bugs are fixed ;D
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13:20.47Mecdemortis there a metafield for when a table lookup is called
13:20.55Mecdemortnot just when an entry doesnt exist anyway
13:20.57CIA-1203grum 07WIP * r52002 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Cartographer_Routes: Added dummy entry to data dropdown when creating a route without data.
13:21.04nevcairielnope
13:21.19nevcairielbut you could place a proxy table in between
13:21.42nevcairiela empty table with a metatable, which forwards the original table data
13:21.49nevcairielso you get all the metatable lookup clals
13:21.50nevcairiel*calls
13:21.52Mecdemorthmm ya
13:22.13Mecdemorti can probably find an easier way tho
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13:25.30CIA-1203uruloke * r52003 10ArcHUD2/ (ArcHUD2.toc Core.lua Frames.lua):
13:25.30CIA-12ArcHUD2:
13:25.30CIA-12* Updated TOC
13:25.30CIA-12* Added cooldownframes to buffs and debuffs as in Blizz frames
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13:27.37CIA-1203grum 07WIP * r52004 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua:
13:27.37CIA-12Cartographer_Routes:
13:27.37CIA-12- Forced refresh of minimap routes on delete,show_hidden,reset and changing of hidden_color.
13:28.29GrumGnarfoz: thanks for the deDE translation - could you translate the latest added line as well? ["No Herbalism/Mining/Fishing data found"]  :D
13:28.37Gnarfozsure
13:28.40Grumoh
13:28.44Grumi just got a translation from someone - Keine Kräuterkunde/Bergbau/Angeln Daten gefunden
13:29.02Gnarfozthat's correct
13:29.04Grumi'll do it ^^
13:29.46silentium"Kräuterkunde/Bergbau/Angeln-Daten" would be correct grammar tho, the space is wrong ;)
13:30.13CIA-1203grum 07WIP * r52005 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Locale-deDE.lua: Cartographer_Routes: updated deDE locale
13:30.31Grumhehe
13:30.32silentiumDeppenleerzeichen ftl ;p
13:30.54Grumit's good enough for me hehe
13:31.57Xinhuanuh you need to change that ä to \195\164
13:32.18silentiumnot if the file is UTF-8 encoded
13:32.26Xinhuanwell just in case
13:32.30Xinhuanit is utf-8
13:32.41Xinhuanbut you never know if some tool breaks it ;p
13:33.20Xinhuandoesn't matter i guses
13:35.44CIA-1203mcc * r52006 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-zhTW.lua:
13:35.44CIA-12Skillet:
13:35.44CIA-12- Modify Locale-zhTW.lua for new Translations
13:35.44CIA-12- Sort By name seems not work in zhTW
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13:38.43Grumhow to handle externals that come with multiple dirs?
13:38.48Grumfor example GraphLib
13:39.02Grumdo you svn:external both of the dirs inside of it? Graph-1.0 and GraphTextures?
13:40.45evly
13:41.20Grumand in the toc?
13:41.36Grumadd it 'GraphLib' to OptionalDeps
13:41.44Grumand to X-Embed rifht?
13:41.45Grum*right
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13:45.47GnarfozXinhuan: just flame those suckers who mangle the utf-8 and revert, if it should happen ;>
13:46.12Xinhuanhahaha
13:46.19Gnarfozand of course, silentium is right about the -
13:46.49Xinhuan- Sort By name seems not work in zhTW
13:46.51Xinhuanrofl at that one
13:47.43hastesorting kanji is always awesome
13:47.48Gnarfozhow do you do it? ;D
13:47.57GnarfozI'd have absolutely no idea on that ^^
13:48.50hasteI'm guessing you would go by pronunciation, there is a 'standard' for it tho'
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13:49.11Xinhuani should have considered about that one
13:49.17Xinhuanand sort it by color or something
13:49.49hastehttp://www.unicode.org/reports/tr10/
13:50.55hasteit would sort slow as hell if you were to follow that one tho'
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13:55.49baer_moin.
13:56.05baer_i got a question concerning the recorded data from violation.
13:56.31baer_is it possible that my lil' gnome warlock does 1419 DPS with t4-stuff?
13:56.41baer_or is it incorrectly recorded?
13:56.46baer_!c eu todeswache Gingles
13:56.49ThraeBotbaer_: Gingles, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (0/21/40). 8817 HP; 8678 Mana; 106 mana regen; 274 spell crit; 136 spell hit; 913 +spell dmg/heal; 51 shadow dmg (964); 4.72% dodge; 39 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2028 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27fot4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xzgrh ][ Updated: Sun Oct 14 09:58:56 2007 EST ]]
13:57.23baer_spelldmg was ~1100 and spellcrit ~24%
13:58.19cryogenbaer_: its heavily biased to warlocks so ye thats not surprising
13:58.44baer_cryogen: i'm not sure how DPS is calculated.
13:58.57CIA-1203grum 07WIP * r52007 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/ (. Cartographer_Routes.toc embeds.xml): Cartographer_Routes: Fixed workaround svn:externals/embeds/toc for GraphLib
13:59.04cryogento quote ammo: it's calculated by working out the DPS while you as dpsing
13:59.17cryogenso its not just dmg done in the time you were in combat
13:59.21cryogenits dmg done while you were doing dmg
14:00.16CorganPortal was fun :D
14:08.20baer_ah, found a nice article: http://www.wowwiki.com/DPS
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14:15.54CIA-1203deccard * r52009 10MiniChat/Core.lua:
14:15.54CIA-12MiniChat:
14:15.54CIA-12- bugfixes for option "Direction"
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14:17.48CIA-1203karls * r52010 10DKPmon_EPGP/ (DKPmon_EPGP.toc epgp.lua example.lua):
14:17.48CIA-12DKPmon_EPGP:
14:17.48CIA-12- TOC updated to 20200
14:17.48CIA-12- Made period EP work in 2.2
14:17.48CIA-12- Expanded default GP costs
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14:25.37EricaHi... anyone on that I can talk to about suggesting a fix for cowtip?
14:26.11EricaI made a change to the lua file that fixed the showing tooltips out of combat option
14:26.24Wogroiplckknight, but he's not here atm
14:26.31Ericajust not sure about how to post this
14:26.44Ericacan someone relay something to him for me please?
14:26.53Trell_post on patey?  then msg him?
14:26.54CIA-1203helium * r52011 10CastYeller/ (7 files in 2 dirs): CastYeller: updated zhTW localization
14:26.58Trell_s/patey/pastey/
14:27.33Ericahmmmm... wish I knew what pastey was  lol
14:28.00Wogroiplhtttp://ace.pastey.net
14:28.07Ericaah ok... thanks!
14:29.35Kirkburn~seen Mikk
14:29.37purlmikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 1h 44m 46s ago, saying: 'Industrial: mmm but not globally-defined groups'.
14:29.54Xinhuanhttp://img140.imageshack.us/img140/592/1192370840889co1.jpg
14:29.56Xinhuanbest image ever
14:30.56hasteneeds higher quality, hard to tell what the small images are from :(
14:31.37Xinhuanneeds more /facepalm
14:31.59hastewhy are you so hostile today Fisker- :( ?
14:32.15Xinhuan~facepalm
14:32.15purlACTION facepalms at the situation
14:32.32Fisker-i'm always hostile
14:32.54hastehttp://images.shagtech.com/037.jpg << needs more english courses imo
14:33.20Mecdemortwow
14:34.44Fisker-oh hi
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14:41.37GrumCould anyone assist me on moving something from a branch to trunk
14:41.39Grumwhat is the best way?
14:41.58Xinhuani believe the procedure is simply "branching" it from branches to trunk
14:42.08Xinhuanbut i am not certain ;p
14:42.23manygrum: you have worked in a branch and want to backport it to trunk?
14:42.31Grumno
14:42.33Grumi have no trunk
14:42.36Grumand i want a trunk
14:42.38manysvn copy then
14:42.44Grumand now in windows *CRY*
14:42.55manytortoise?
14:43.08CIA-1203helium * r52012 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.toc: ClosetGnome_Mount: bump toc to 20200
14:43.17Grumyeah
14:43.23Xinhuanideally, its really just moving the copy from branches to trunk
14:43.25CIA-1203grum 07WIP * r52013 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Header changes - release pending.
14:43.28Xinhuanso the one in branches gets deleted
14:43.32Grumyeah
14:43.48Grumi can do import but then i loose all dir properties
14:43.49CIA-1203helium * r52014 10ClosetGnome_Tooltip/ClosetGnome_Tooltip.toc: ClosetGnome_Tooltip: bump toc to 20200
14:44.05manycopy or move depends wether you want to work in trunk from now on or work in the branch and then do batch merges from the branch to trunk
14:44.14CIA-1203helium * r52015 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.toc: ClosetGnome_Zone: bump toc to 20200
14:44.15Grumi only have a branch now
14:44.18Grumand i want that to be trunk
14:44.30Grumand i want to work alter in branches
14:44.33Grum*later
14:44.35Grumand merge those with trunk
14:44.42manysvn copy then 8)
14:44.46Grumwindows!
14:44.48manynot svn move
14:44.56manygrum: mom, have to look it up for tortoise
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14:45.43Grumi have 'Relocate' but that will just move the 'parent' not the code i think
14:45.47Babuanyone here able to settle my ace svn request? been waiting for a few days. T_T
14:46.01Grumtook 4-5 with me Babu
14:46.19Gnarfoz'svn' is windows, too
14:46.20Gnarfoz>_>
14:46.37GrumGnarfoz: windows kinda always uses tortoise O.o
14:46.51Gnarfozpeople who actually can stand using windows explorer might, yeah
14:46.57Grumi dont
14:46.59Grumi hate it
14:47.04Grummeh
14:47.07Grumi just do it on linux
14:47.11GnarfozSmartSVN then :>
14:47.51Grumok i got a clean checkout
14:48.00manygrum: do you have branch/tag as context menu?
14:48.08Grumyes
14:48.11manyuse that
14:48.15Grumbut i'll do it with a shell :D
14:48.28Grumi'm in my checkout .. now what? ;D
14:48.59Grumit has to go into: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Cartographer_Routes
14:49.03CIA-1203funkydude * r52016 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Halazzi: Possible bugfix for bad argument error
14:49.09Funkeh`Awaa, hopefully fixed
14:49.13Grumsvn cp . http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Cartographer_Routes ... ?
14:49.17Xinhuani believe "svn copy" in tortoise is called "Branching/Tag..."
14:49.21Babualright thanks
14:49.21manygrum: Yes.
14:49.28Grummany: really sure? ;D
14:49.57Xinhuandon't you have to go up 1 folder level?
14:50.04manynot 100% on wether it does the directory structure you want
14:50.04Grummight be
14:50.10manybut the syntax is right.
14:50.23Grumi'll just try it
14:50.26Grumsvn rm is my friend
14:50.30Gruminc svn spam ^^
14:50.49manyif you are completely unsure just use scp copy http://dev/brnaches...  http://dev/trunk...
14:50.59CIA-1203grum * r52017 10Cartographer_Routes/: Cartographer_Routes: move to trunk
14:51.02manythats probably more intuitive =)
14:51.10Grumuhoh! was that already? :D
14:51.29Grumoe
14:51.30Grumseems to be
14:51.34GrumYAY! hurray ;D
14:51.40Xinhuanhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Cartographer_Routes/
14:51.42Xinhuani can see it there
14:51.45Xinhuanso i assume it exists
14:51.46Grumyay
14:51.48Grumyup
14:54.07manyand it looks right, too. no Cartographer_Router/Cartographer_Routes/
14:54.50Xinhuancommit note should be "copy to trunk" i guess, rather than move
14:55.24Grummeh
14:55.27Grumno time to finish the rest
14:55.38Grumwill do the forum post in a bit when i get home before the raid orso
14:55.41manyeven if its copy, i probably have even said "merge" rather than move, because...  but thats a minor detail :)
14:55.56Xinhuanits not a merge because the target didn't exist
14:56.03manythats correct
14:56.57manyso technically its a copy, but since it will be destination for merges later on, the stomach says something different
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15:00.22Mecdemortanyone know of a cleanly written addon that's a good example of using modules?
15:01.41CIA-1203oridan * r52019 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
15:01.41CIA-12SpellReminder:
15:01.41CIA-12- enabled detection by default
15:01.41CIA-12- added effect type filtering
15:01.41CIA-12- spell icons on fubar spell setup
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15:07.24Funkeh`Mecdemort, Quartz?
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15:07.46Xinhuanthe major ones are bigwigs, cartographer, quartz
15:08.40Xinhuanand prat ?
15:08.50Vangualanyone know what happened to cartographer_coordinates?
15:08.57Mecdemorthmm ok my brain has stopped working because all of those should have come to mind
15:09.05Gnarfozsvn book says "no thing as merges, only copies"
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15:12.31CIA-1203pettigrow * r52020 10Incubator/Locale-frFR.lua: Incubator: frFR Update
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15:14.08yasuohi there
15:14.18yasuoi have a prob with questfu, am i here right?
15:14.22yasuoerm i mean TrainerFu
15:14.24yasuosry
15:14.55Xinhuandepends on what the problem is
15:15.33yasuowell im playing an ally-character
15:15.44yasuoand also startet a horde-character
15:16.25yasuoand now TrainerFu tells my n8-elve (ally) it could learn horde-skills from horde-characters
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15:16.45Xinhuanyou will need to contact the author of the addon for this issue
15:17.45yasuoi will do.
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15:22.25Balstornrgservers are now all gone, their hosting company pulled the plug it seems
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15:23.33vhaarrBibi`: ping
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15:26.37Bibi`pong !
15:27.58CIA-1203elkano * r52021 10LibInventory-2.1/ (5 files):
15:27.58CIA-12LibInventory-2.1
15:27.58CIA-12- some small optimizations
15:27.58CIA-12- scan cache on login
15:27.58CIA-12- added LibStub file
15:29.23vhaarrBibi`: right
15:29.32vhaarrBibi`: the item tooltip code on your site, where did you get it?
15:29.36vhaarrBibi`: or did you make it?
15:29.48Bibi`2nd part !
15:29.52Bibi`why ?
15:30.06vhaarrBibi`: I've been asked to provide something similar for another site
15:30.20vhaarrguess I'll have to make it from scratch then
15:33.11renchapvhaarr: look at http://forums.eqdkp.com/index.php?showtopic=9439
15:33.13CIA-1203linsu * r52022 10Buffalo2/Buffalo2-zhTW.lua: Buffalo2: Add zhTW.lua
15:34.41vhaarrrenchap: thanks
15:34.52CIA-1203ragnorok * r52023 10Modality/Modality_Bartender3.lua:
15:34.52CIA-12Modality:
15:34.52CIA-12-- Patch for errors by AgentRocket on forums, fixes nil error
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15:35.32CIA-1203elkano * r52024 10FuBar_ItemDBFu/ (. FuBar_ItemDBFu.lua FuBar_ItemDBFu.toc Libs/):
15:35.32CIA-12FuBar_ItemDBFu
15:35.32CIA-12- now using LibInventory-2.1 from ItemDB
15:36.20Elkanohow do I load xml within xml? also <script file="" />?
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15:38.33CIA-1203elkano * r52025 10ItemDB/ (. ItemDB.toc embeds.xml): ItemDB: LibStub is now included in LibInventory, no need for it here...
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15:40.00sag_ich_nichtanyone familiar with tainting of the blizzard raidtab(in the social frame) and mass fps drops caused by it?
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15:47.13Xinhuanits something to do with the voicechat button i guess
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15:48.49Killmoregrum ?
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15:53.38Xinhuanhi
15:55.31sag_ich_nicht[17:47] <Xinhuan> its something to do with the voicechat button i guess <--no, happened already before 2.2 was just too lazy to debug it
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15:57.46sag_ich_nichtalso it's blank while in combat
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16:18.52CIA-1203oridan * r52027 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
16:18.52CIA-12SpellReminder:
16:18.52CIA-12- added customisable default bar colour.
16:18.52CIA-12- colourised spell setup.
16:20.20sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366698667&pageNo=6&sid=1#104 wtf.
16:21.51nevcairieltoo bad you cant block banned people from reading the forums :x
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16:22.36dylanm?
16:23.05sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel heh
16:23.15sag_ich_nichti'm permabanned from the EU forums
16:23.18sag_ich_nichtyet i can still post
16:23.19sag_ich_nicht:X
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16:30.50Fisker-aw
16:31.47sag_ich_nichtFisker-
16:31.59sag_ich_nichthave you considered stabbing your head with a kitchen knife?
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16:33.16Fisker-nymbia !!!!!!!!!!!!
16:33.18Fisker-damnit
16:34.10Fisker-i'm telling on you
16:34.19Fisker-sag_ich_nicht wasn't a reply to you
16:34.23Fisker-actually it wasn't a reply at all
16:34.43Fisker-i was just running around in WoW and it pressed aw when i alt+tabbed into irc :I
16:34.44nymbiaFisker-:
16:34.48nymbiabad
16:35.25Fisker-you touched pt3bar in bad places :(
16:35.38nymbiawha
16:35.41Bibido you have hairs in your special place Fisker- ?
16:35.41nymbiawhen
16:35.58Fisker-dunno
16:36.01Fisker-but i lost my config
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16:36.16Fisker-and i didn't back it up because i reinstalled windows ;_;
16:36.17nymbiaall i did was bump the toc
16:36.19Fisker-t_t
16:36.19Fisker-etc.
16:36.48Fisker-now i have to spend 5 minutes again to make it :(
16:36.56nymbiaWHINER
16:37.05Fisker-moar like winner amirite?
16:37.11nymbiano
16:37.14Fisker-oh u :(
16:37.17nymbia~smite Fisker-
16:37.18purlACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves Fisker- from crown to sole.
16:37.20nymbia;)
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16:45.01Fisker-sup nymbia
16:45.05Fisker-would you like a cup of madness?
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16:47.13nymbiayes
16:47.22CIA-1203nymbia * r52028 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 7 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: run dataminer
16:48.58Trell_WHEN DID THE PRAT BUBBLE THING CHANGE
16:49.01Trell_oops caps >_<
16:49.12Trell_or is it the pitbull/prat mod
16:49.20Trell_its quite cool ;)
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16:51.29Egresthey guys, is there a macro command that can show your current equipped trinkets in the tooltip?
16:51.42CIA-1203tattersail * r52029 10IncomingHeals/Core.lua:
16:51.42CIA-12IncomingHeals:
16:51.42CIA-12- Fixed bug that made heals not show on all raid frames in sRaidFrames
16:52.14SlakahEgrest: Wouldn't #showtooltip 13    do it?
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16:56.26MirandaWhere is the 'offical' place to download the latest version of Cartographer?
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16:56.30CIA-1203nymbia * r52030 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua:
16:56.30CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
16:56.30CIA-12- Add placeholder sets for Zul'Aman bosses and arena 3 sets.
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17:02.06HjalteMiranda, files.wowace.com
17:02.34Olisonlooking for a  addon that alters the way the location text in the middle of the screen is displayed...i dont even know what to google for :<
17:02.34CIA-1203rabbit * r52032 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: SinkLib: 2.3.0 compat fix.
17:06.03Egrest[00:52] <Slakah> Egrest: Wouldn't #showtooltip 13    do it?-> it doesn't.
17:06.10EgrestLet me try again though
17:06.37Egrestweird it works now. =X
17:06.42EgrestThanks Slakah
17:06.58CIA-1203nogudnik * r52033 10Skillet/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
17:06.58CIA-12Skillet:
17:06.58CIA-12- Comment out translations that are not available yet.
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17:11.08KemayoElkano: I am hilighted.
17:13.07sag_ich_nichtquestion
17:13.13sag_ich_nichtno wait
17:13.14sag_ich_nichtnvm
17:14.05Zhinjioapparently, my use of the "range" ace options table is not working how I thought it should/does
17:14.05Zhinjiobah
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17:16.00Fisker-so Gnarfoz
17:20.17Zhinjioanyone have a plugin where a "range" is implemented that I can look at for reference?
17:21.50Zhinjioall my dropdown gives me is the "Close" option.
17:22.42ElkanoKemayo, doesn't posion use Craft, too?
17:22.54Elkano..poison...
17:23.30nymbiadon't think so
17:23.55Zhinjiocan a "range" even appear in a dewdrop menu? I'd have thought so.
17:24.52CIA-1203nymbia * r52034 10Squeenix/Squeenix.lua:
17:24.52CIA-12Squeenix:
17:24.52CIA-12- Kill a non-fatal error in 2.3
17:24.53CIA-1203cwdg * r52035 10Elephant/ (Elephant.toc Locale-zhCN.lua): Elephant: update zhCN local
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17:26.18GnarfozFisker-: it's you!
17:26.40CIA-1203nymbia * r52036 10PeriodicTable-3.0/datacompressed.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: stick those empty sets in their files
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17:27.14rubikhmm.. Funkeh`.. why comment out MyMedia.lua from SharedMedia commit you did yesterday?
17:27.15Fisker-it's me
17:27.21Fisker-why does holy light not work in DrDamage?
17:28.12rubikoh, i see what you did.. was causing error if MyMedia.lua doesn't exist eh?
17:33.46sag_ich_nicht[19:27] <Fisker-> why does holy light not work in DrDamage? <--works for me
17:33.52sag_ich_nichtyou probably have a broken cache
17:34.01sag_ich_nichtdelete your cache folder, login again, then reloadui
17:34.14Fisker-NO
17:34.15Fisker-U
17:34.21Fisker-I WILL NOT DELETE MAH CACHE
17:34.29Fisker-besides are yours macroed?
17:34.32sag_ich_nichtmy SoC always shows 0 when the cache is broken
17:34.42sag_ich_nichtyes
17:34.52Fisker-mine doesn't show a value!1
17:34.56sag_ich_nicht#showtooltip
17:34.59sag_ich_nichtfirst line of the macro
17:35.04sag_ich_nichtDON'T use #show
17:35.08sag_ich_nichtit's a stupid cunt :X
17:35.49Fisker-i use #showtooltip
17:36.08Fisker-COME ON
17:36.18Fisker-why is that shit case sensitive
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17:36.40Kaydeethreebecause it makes the parser faster
17:37.09Fisker-noone asked you for your opinion KD3 :(
17:37.15Fisker-so it's a blizzard thing?
17:37.23Kaydeethreeyes.
17:37.34Fisker-explains why it worked earlier then :P
17:37.49Kaydeethreebecause the pre-2.2.0 parser was written in Lua. the 2.2.0 parser is written in c++
17:38.07GagorianFail!
17:38.29Fisker-well case sensitivity won't effect that nessecarily?
17:38.54CIA-1203happywarbird * r52037 10SilverDragon/Defaults.deDE.lua: SilverDragon: Added some details to Defaults.deDE.lua
17:39.40KaydeethreeI'd assume they're doing a regex match. making it case-insensitive would take another few processor cycles
17:40.00Xinhuanthey should make it such that you only need to process a macro ONCE
17:40.02Xinhuanand that's it
17:40.12Xinhuanyou only need to reprocess it if the macro changes
17:41.30Kaydeethreemacros are evaluated on most combat events to handle #showtooltip being able to change
17:41.42Kaydeethreeand /castsequences and macro conditionals...
17:41.58Kaydeethreeafaik
17:42.07Xinhuanwhich is pretty silly since you can have a "precompiled" sequence to run through
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17:46.01kebinusanI miss my old lua macros
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17:53.39CIA-1203funkydude * r52038 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Nalorakk.lua:
17:53.39CIA-12BigWigs: ZulAman/Nalorakk:
17:53.39CIA-12- tweak bar message
17:53.39CIA-12- add some delayed messages
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18:08.40Pkekyo!c eu bloodfeather cowslip
18:08.42ThraeBotPkekyo: Cowslip, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (19/0/42). 6183 HP; 6158 Mana; 178 mana regen; 54 mp5; 7007 Armour; 71.400 Melee DPS; 6.95% melee crit; 35 melee hit; 38 spell crit; 165 +spell dmg; 843 +heal; 6.95% dodge; 5.00% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 823 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cp4dm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uenx9 ][ Updated: Sun Oct 14 14:10:51 2007 EST ]]
18:09.08NightHawkTheSaneheh, nice name.
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18:09.57Pkekyoresto shammy that ninjaed my fury trinket
18:10.20NightHawkTheSanethats a shame. still a nice name.
18:10.28NightHawkTheSanewatership down ftw.
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18:12.07PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: yeah, a goddamn shame...came to kara with green +healing gear as a dw enhancement shammy, took my dps gear, then respecced resto
18:12.54NightHawkTheSanei assume it's a pug, which of course, raises the question, why are you pugging it?
18:13.03PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: nope, guild run
18:13.11Pkekyocowslip's the GMs mother
18:13.22NightHawkTheSaneah, go figure
18:13.59Pkekyoindeed
18:14.18Pkekyoour guild's only holy pala threatened with leaving the guild beacuse of it
18:14.43NightHawkTheSanewas it an isolated incident, or has it happened repeatedly?
18:15.03Pkekyoninjaing all my dps gear was isolated...she's been to alot of raids with green crap only though
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18:15.40Fisker-around nymbia never don't restrain from not attacking
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18:24.05testifyQuestion: Is there any place in prat where you can enter in certain words to highlight?
18:24.33nevcairiel~framexml
18:24.34purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com
18:25.16testifyI'm thinking of when people announce that they want enchants, or stuff crafted that it highlights it
18:25.38sylvanaartestify you can try the customfilters module
18:26.37testifyhmm looks like I'll have to do some research to figure out that
18:26.39testifyk thanks
18:27.41testifyAnother thing: Is there any crafting mod that shows you what recipes you might be missing and where to get them?
18:28.41testifyI find I'm missing a lot of easily found enchanting recipes
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18:31.37CIA-1203funkydude * r52040 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon: make electrical storm atually work
18:34.58Hjaltetestify: AckisRecipeList
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18:35.20eBaithello
18:35.30eBaitdoes anyone know how to change the strata of fubar?
18:35.48Hjaltetestify: If you need more addons, just go to files.wowace.com, select "show all" and use your browsers search function
18:37.31eBaitanyone?
18:37.53Pkekyo!c eu bloodfeather xcistens
18:37.56ThraeBotPkekyo: Xcistens, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (50/11/0). 7007 HP; 9108 Mana; 163 mana regen; 82 mp5; 10462 Armour; 76.100 Melee DPS; 3.65% melee crit; 52 spell crit; 227 +spell dmg; 1153 +heal; 4.13% dodge; 5.32% block;[[ TBR: 1076 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25mogc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2quxk3 ][ Updated: Sun Oct 14 14:40:05 2007 EST ]]
18:38.20Pkekyoyay, a holy pala for once
18:38.24HjalteeBait: I'm not sure you can change the strata
18:38.35Pkekyo!vs
18:38.47NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: "for once"? all your pallies prot?
18:38.56many<PROTECTED>
18:39.07Pkekyonah, but I've been running into alot of retrilol crap nowadays
18:39.16Pkekyoanyone know how the !vs thing works?
18:39.17NightHawkTheSane>< lame.
18:39.36NightHawkTheSane!vs us Laughing Skull Keribdis us Bloodfeather Xcistens
18:39.39ThraeBotNightHawkTheSane: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail.
18:39.45NightHawkTheSanehmm..
18:39.51NightHawkTheSane!vs us Laughing Skull Keribdis Bloodfeather Xcistens
18:40.04Pkekyo!vs eu bloodfeather baesj eu bloodfeather battlecry
18:40.09ThraeBotPkekyo: Baesj vs Battlecry! Two 70 warriors square off!; 8/5/48 vs 8/9/44; Battlecry wins by 336 TBRs!
18:40.27NightHawkTheSaneoh, bah, i messed up eu/us. ;)
18:40.32NightHawkTheSane!vs us Laughing Skull Keribdis eu Bloodfeather Xcistens
18:40.33ThraeBotNightHawkTheSane: Keribdis vs Xcistens! A L70 shaman and a L70 paladin square off!; 11/0/50 vs 50/11/0; Xcistens wins by 50 TBRs!
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18:40.37Pkekyo!vs eu bloodfeather baesj eu bloodfeather tryffeln
18:40.40ThraeBotPkekyo: Baesj vs Tryffeln! Two 70 warriors square off!; 8/5/48 vs 13/7/41; Baesj wins by 102 TBRs!
18:41.06NightHawkTheSaneheh, holy pally vs resto shammy, few things are more futile.
18:41.06manywhats a TBR?
18:41.11NightHawkTheSane~tbr
18:41.11purlit has been said that tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released")
18:41.16manyah, ty.
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18:41.28NightHawkTheSane!c us Laughing Skull Keribdis
18:41.29ThraeBotNightHawkTheSane: Keribdis, Level 70 Troll Shaman (11/0/50). 6939 HP; 8708 Mana; 149 mana regen; 51 mp5; 8088 Armour; 4.32% melee crit; 332 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 788 +spell dmg/heal; 43 nature dmg (831); 4.32% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 1026 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23gb2s ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vqy7r ][ Updated: Sun Oct 14 14:41:48 2007 EST ]]
18:41.41many!c eu forscherliga ukeer
18:41.44ThraeBotmany: Ukeer, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (53/0/8). 5414 HP; 6905 Mana; 212 mana regen; 61 mp5; 71.300 Melee DPS; 3.36% melee crit; 52 spell crit; 302 +spell dmg; 423 +heal; 4.19% dodge;[[ TBR: 1044 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/286xpo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33fnun ][ Updated: Sun Oct 14 14:43:53 2007 EST ]]
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18:41.53NightHawkTheSaneo_0 that's not right. i've got like 600 more HP than that.
18:41.57NightHawkTheSaneI think
18:41.59CIA-1203nymbia * r52041 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
18:41.59CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
18:41.59CIA-12- Regenerate child embeds, misc cleanup
18:41.59CIA-12- NOTE: What's up with these Misc.Key.Instance.Normal/Heroic entries? They're
18:41.59CIA-12in the child embed, but were never in the master data files as far as I can
18:42.00CIA-12tell, they were added in r38275 by Arkayenro. Commented out for now.
18:42.42manymy weak gear has more than other 70 chars. fascinating. how did i do that?
18:43.15Pkekyosweet, nobody knows who's supposed to tank! (first gruul)
18:44.19CIA-1203funkydude * r52042 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Jan'alai: Delay Flame Breath scan a little in hope it actually works
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18:50.19xyuAny shadow priests in here?  can give me some 5 man tips? :)
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18:53.16Hjaltejust melt faces. pew pew.
18:53.31xyudo i keep VT up on trash?  
18:53.45Hjalteno idea, i have a priest, but it's not shadow :)
18:54.18cncfanaticsxyu, you should if it lives long enough  to be worth it
18:54.22cncfanaticsoh wait, VT always
18:54.29cncfanaticsVE if it lives long enough
18:56.56xyuok
18:57.03Pkekyoabout to tank High King Maulgar for the first time...anything in specific I should know?
18:57.07xyuso VT, SW:P, SW:D, MB MF?
18:57.09xyuis that ok?
18:57.28ChompersPkekyo: top right corner
18:57.56PkekyoChompers: what about it?
18:58.20Chomperstake hkm to the top right
18:58.45HjaltePkekyo, take him to where your raid leader tells you to. And ask for a fear ward, nothing else.
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18:59.34PkekyoHjalte: horde
19:00.05HjaltePkekyo, then feel free to run around and look stupid with a skull above your head :)
19:00.13PkekyoHjalte: howso?
19:00.31HjalteHe fears when he gets to.. is it 30%? something like that.
19:00.40Pkekyostancedance?
19:00.49HjalteNah, you will have plenty of free warriors.
19:00.54HjalteHave one of them grab him.
19:01.20Pkekyowe've only got three warriors
19:01.21nevcairielits pretty normal that at 30% maulgar just kills 3-5 dds :P
19:01.55Pkekyodds?
19:02.00Hjaltedps*
19:02.01nevcairieldamage dealer
19:02.10Pkekyofucksake, why can't everyone keep to the good old abbrevations? :p
19:02.33NightHawkTheSanewe like inventing new abbreviations to fuck with your mind
19:02.38PkekyoI can tell
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19:14.49KemayoElkano: Nope, it's tradeskill.
19:18.59cN|kuraHi there, if got a small problem: i created a small scrollmessageframe with lua, but when i try to AddMessage nothing happens :*( could anyone help me?
19:22.27xyuvery strange, 2 of my keys are suddenly becoming "unbound"  they just don't work.   The key on the keyboard itself works.  It's still bound in "Spellbinder"  but nothing happens when i press it o_O
19:22.34xyuIf i relog it works again for like 10 min
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19:23.23xyuoh i know when it does it
19:23.26xyuafter i mindcontrol
19:23.31xyua shadowpriest like me
19:24.09CIA-1203funkydude * r52044 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Malacrass: Remove soul siphon bar, seems unpredictable.
19:27.30Elkanohmm... but besides that you'll still miss the things craftable by enchanters, won't you?
19:27.51Elkanoand also I don't see a reason for Mendeleev knowing enchants
19:28.05Elkanoat least in the current implementation
19:36.03Fisker-omg Nimble
19:36.06Fisker-damnit
19:36.07Fisker-no nimbal
19:36.59cncfanaticsehm, wtf ?
19:37.03cncfanaticsshowstates is messing up
19:37.07cncfanaticsits hiding the icon but not the frame
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19:43.26cncfanaticsnevcairiel, you around ?
19:46.07CIA-1203funkydude * r52045 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Zul'jin.lua:
19:46.07CIA-12BigWigs: ZulAman/Zul'jin:
19:46.07CIA-12- remove paralysis spam
19:46.07CIA-12- tweak phase messages
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19:50.36CIA-1203luggy * r52046 10lugMD/lugMD.lua:
19:50.36CIA-12lugMD:
19:50.36CIA-12- fixed bug in announcement options
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19:51.22miicai got nice addon idea
19:51.41miicaaddon that is like TAB but dont target totems! :D
19:52.32cN|kurai see dead people @ karathress ;)
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19:55.15Speeddymon~seen sylvanaar
19:55.18purlsylvanaar is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 21h 32m 28s) #norganna (1d 21h 32m 28s) #wowace (1d 21h 32m 28s). Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 1h 29m 40s, last said: 'testify you can try the customfilters module'.
19:55.32Kerafyrmsweet.. BigWigs updates for ZA already
19:55.52nymbiathat's how Funkeh` rolls
19:56.03Funkeh`I like to get it done and over with asap
19:56.08Funkeh`no fooling around
19:56.23SpeeddymonFunkeh` you in nihilium or somethin? =D\
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19:56.32Funkeh`no :)
19:56.33NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh` codes his boss mods like he sexes his gnomes
19:56.34miicasomebody say is my addon idea possible to make?
19:56.35Speeddymons/=D\/=D/
19:56.50Funkeh`I sex my gnomes goood
19:56.51Speeddymonkk
19:57.22ZealotOnAStick~seen Punkie`afk
19:57.24purli haven't seen 'punkie`afk', ZealotOnAStick
19:57.36Kerafyrmwell.... Funkeh` deserves gold women and fast cars, imo :)
19:57.53NightHawkTheSanehehe
19:57.59Funkeh`nah, 1 night with nymbia is all I need
19:58.04Kerafyrmheh
19:58.05nymbia;)
19:58.06Speeddymonlol
19:58.20NightHawkTheSaneyeah, one night with nymbia will scar anyone for life. :D
19:58.26Funkeh`hehe
19:58.28Speeddymonlmao
19:58.42Speeddymonnobody could handle more than 1 night with nymbia, eh?
19:58.58CIA-1203nymbia * r52047 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
19:58.58CIA-12PeriodicTable-3.0:
19:58.58CIA-12- Mine the Anzu data since Funkeh` is bad and didn't put him in heroic.
19:59.00nymbiarofl
19:59.18Funkeh`yeah, its called hardcore burnout
19:59.21Hjaltesylvanaar, is it prat that is querying the name of everyone speaking in my general chat? I've turned "Actively query player info" off.
20:01.17Kerafyrmfinally got onto the ptr and got to see first hand the new gheyness of fear ward
20:01.20Kerafyrm*sigh*
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20:02.20Speeddymonhow ghey is fear ward?  wtf did they do to it?
20:02.58Funkeh`ghey is up, Speeddymon
20:03.08Funkeh`and the new dorf racial isn't usable in shadow form
20:03.16Funkeh`I mean fucks sake nymbia WHAT IS THAT?
20:03.21Elkanoah, Speeddymon, was looking for you... would you mind to stop pushing TOCs on my addons? thx :/
20:03.44Funkeh`Elkano has a dislike wiht people pushing toc on hes addons
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20:04.01Funkeh`1 minute your hand is there, click commit, next its gone
20:04.07Kerafyrmwel
20:04.16ZhinjioElkano, I had a question for you.
20:04.21KerafyrmCooldown is now 3 min and duration is 3 min..
20:04.24Kerafyrmso basicly
20:04.29Kerafyrm1 priest = 1 fear ward
20:04.36Zhinjiowhether something was a bug or intentional or me doing something wrong with BuffBars
20:04.38Kerafyrmwhere if you had a smart priest, you could sometimes get 3
20:05.02ag`_the nerf dorf talent is insane in arenas, now they are even better now that they have a CC and stoneform
20:05.02Zhinjiowhen a weapon buff timer expires, the bar for it stretches all the way to the right edge of the screen for about 2 seconds before the bar disappears.
20:05.25Zhinjioconsidering I have my ebb on the left hand side, its pretty whacky
20:05.43Elkanowhen did you update it the last time?
20:05.46Beutjuis it possible that morogrim's earthquake has a larger radius than 35y?
20:05.49Zhinjiohmm.
20:05.50ag`_they shouldn't have added that stupid chastice, everyone was asking for a new cc for priests, and then they give one that only a few can use, meh
20:05.57Zhinjioexcellent question. lemme see what version i'm using
20:06.04Zhinjioprobably a couple weeks ago
20:06.09Elkano(look into ElkBuffBars.lua for the revision
20:06.21sylvanaarHjalte if you turned it on then yes - reloadui to clear the queue
20:07.07Zhinjio$Revision: 50653 $
20:07.47Eggiag: chastice is also only for holy priests so shadows don't benefit from it :( ... elfs are now better dds
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20:09.45cncfanaticss/dds/dps/
20:10.59ZhinjioI don't think I'm doing anything too abnormal with the bars or anything. Fairly standard layout/setup
20:11.54Elkanohmm... 50653 is latest :/
20:12.40Zhinjioit happens both on my shammy with windfury and on pally when I'm using a mana oil or similar.
20:12.49Zhinjiodoesn't happen with any other bar type thought
20:12.52Zhinjiothough*
20:12.58Zhinjiothe rest all 'expire' normally
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20:14.19Jagobahhey it's cncfanatics
20:14.49cncfanaticsJagobah, eh ?
20:15.01Elkanowell, I currently don't use any weapon buffs :/ seems to be bad timing wrt Blizzard
20:15.04CIA-1203funkydude * r52048 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ZulAman/Zuljin.lua: Threat-1.0: ZulAman/Zuljin: tweak
20:15.08Jagobahyou still do flexbar dev?
20:15.23cN|kuracould anyone help me with a scrollmessageframe, which doesn't react on AddMessage please? it's my first try to create an frame, and i have no idea why it doesn't works :(
20:15.34Pkekyomeh, doing Gruul's is a pain when half the raid've got sub-par gear
20:15.51Zhinjiofigured I'd let you know anyway.
20:16.33Elkanowell, I had that buff before with normal buff, too.
20:16.46Elkanoit happens when somehow a larger timeleft is returned
20:17.13cncfanaticsJagobah, ofc
20:17.19cncfanaticshttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2
20:17.57Balstorcnc layout.lus needs fixed :P
20:18.14JagobahYeah, I didn't see any examples for warrior stance paging with the buttons
20:18.43JagobahI am just a mere mortal though <_<
20:19.28Balstorthis also works for warriorsL /flexbar2 setremap button=1 shapeshift=true
20:20.13Jagobahand it'll give different buttons for all three stances?
20:20.16EggiFunkey: why don't you use the emotes? aren't they the last thing before the boss resets aggro?
20:20.19Balstoryes
20:20.35Jagobahhmm ok
20:20.50Balstornow the othe etf fp2 command is this  /fb2 sparta
20:21.01Jagobahgasp
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20:22.15NightHawkTheSaneo_0 did they make enemy faction towns noflyable in 2.3?
20:22.28Eggithats a bug
20:22.36NightHawkTheSanei would hope so
20:22.37Eggiit also happens in friendly towns
20:22.37Jagobahalso wondering what the attribute flags do
20:22.52Eggitry it in nagrand
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20:22.54cncfanaticsBalstor, :o u found it
20:22.58Eggitelaar imo
20:23.08Eggiyou can't fly there
20:23.12Balstoryhea attribute flags are the same as the lua interface setting things, avoid them
20:23.18cncfanaticsBalstor, layout.lus needs fixing ? eh , what u mean ?
20:23.32Balstorsay /fb2 gui is broooken
20:23.32Zhinjiooh, also, Elkano... I need to thank you. I was looking for an example of using a "range" in a dewdrop for a long time to get mine working. And ebb just so happens to have them.
20:23.37Balstor:P
20:23.37Zhinjioso... thanks.
20:23.39cncfanaticsBalstor, /fb gui doesn't exist
20:23.48HjalteBah, Character copy EU is working like crap...
20:23.55Balstorwhy did you get rid of it?
20:24.05NightHawkTheSaneEggi: yeah, telaar is where i got dismounted, i'm horde, so it's not precisely friendly to me :P
20:24.11cncfanaticsBalstor, because I don't have time to maintain a GUI, someone has to do it in my place
20:24.20cncfanaticsI removed the command when I broke the GUI and didn't want to redo it
20:24.21PkekyoMAULGAR FIRST KILL, BOOYAH!
20:25.02Eggiit is the same for alliance :<
20:25.07cncfanaticsBalstor, nearly got a new feature rdy
20:25.08ElkanoZhinjio, you're welcome :)
20:25.22Eggiyou have to use your normal mount there <.<
20:25.41NightHawkTheSaneso, note to self, don't fly too high on the PTR
20:25.53Balstorhmmm
20:26.09cncfanatics?
20:26.14cncfanaticswhats the hmmm'ing for ? :p
20:26.35CIA-1203funkydude * r52049 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Akil'zon: add ping option
20:26.52CIA-1203funkydude * r52050 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Halazzi: reduce spirit bar timer slightly
20:27.18rob`"ZulAman/Akil'zon.lua" - won't Windows choke on having an apostrophe in the filename?
20:27.31rob`never mind, just tested it
20:27.33rob`dumb question
20:27.34cncfanaticsrob` try it out ?
20:27.59NightHawkTheSaneapostrophes are perfectly legal characters in every os, iirc.
20:28.16cncfanaticsw00000tage, showing/hiding buttons on certain states WORKS
20:28.28cncfanatics~win
20:28.29purlrumour has it, win is lose.
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20:28.33rob`well, I haven't really done windows stuff in a while, and it used to have all sorts of inane restrictions
20:28.39rob`like you couldn't have periods in it
20:28.55cncfanaticsI can understand why you can't have / and \, but why not periods ?
20:29.02Funkeh`you can't have periods as a start
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20:29.37rob`funk: strange, I have a .bashrc file on a filesystem mounted in windows, and it seems to deal with it okay
20:30.03Funkeh`Sorry, you can have it, but it bitches when you try to make it
20:30.05NightHawkTheSaneit'll handle it if they're already named like that, but the os won't let you change a file to a name that starts with ap eriod
20:30.11Funkeh`You need to do it in dos iirc
20:30.15rob`ah
20:30.29rob`oh well, good to know that it's a non-issue :)
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20:34.53cncfanaticsits a silly limitation
20:35.07cncfanaticsu can have them, but only if they're named somewhere other then in win
20:35.13CIA-1203funkydude * r52051 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Jan'alai.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Jan'alai: tweak colours
20:35.48GrumWhat creates the 'Addon information' on the wiki page?
20:35.58Grumthe block with data extracted from the toc?
20:36.10chexsumrename it within a zip file
20:37.15CIA-1203jerry * r52052 10Talented/ (ui/base.lua viewmode.lua): Talented: Add a Frame so that the pointsleft FontString is visible above the tree.
20:37.43CIA-1203grum * r52053 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes.toc: Cartographer_Routes: minor adjustment to make both authors show on files.wowace
20:38.05Hjaltecncfanatics: I've just installed flexbar, set up a bar and dragged some buttons on to it, but for some reason, nothing happens when i press the buttons?
20:38.47cncfanaticsHjalte, nothing happens ?
20:38.52cncfanaticsthe icon appears on the button ?
20:39.08Hjaltecncfanatics: It doesnt cast the spell at least :) I locked the bar - is that correct?
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20:39.21cncfanaticsyea it is, I think I know why
20:39.24cncfanaticswhat client you use ?
20:39.33cncfanaticsnot english eh ?
20:39.40HjalteEU - english client
20:39.48cncfanaticshuh ? and it won't work ?
20:39.55cncfanaticsdoes the icon appear on the button, does the tooltip appear ?
20:40.01HjalteIs it because i have bartender installed?
20:40.08cncfanaticsno it ain't, for sure
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20:40.33Grumah that explained
20:40.38Hjaltecncfanatics: The icon appears, but there is no tooltip. I also installed flexbar2_buffdur
20:40.46Grumif you have a '&' in the Author field in the toc it will break wowace stuff :)
20:41.46cncfanaticsHjalte, ok, lemme think
20:41.53cncfanaticsput something on the fisrt button
20:41.55cncfanaticsand then do this
20:42.23cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
20:42.31cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
20:42.36cncfanaticswhat do those 2 return ?
20:43.05Hjaltecncfanatics: Oh, i reloaded the ui now and it works
20:43.16cncfanaticsheh, weirdish
20:43.18Grumjeej .. sort of a wiki is up! ... http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer_Routes
20:43.31cncfanaticsHjalte, if it ever happens again can you get me the output of those 2 commands ? :)
20:43.35Hjaltesure
20:44.09cncfanaticsok, enjoy then :) nearly done adding a new feature
20:44.27Grumcncfanatics: getting closer to being feature complete ? :)
20:44.39cncfanaticsGrum, nearly done adding show/hide depending on what state ur in
20:44.53cncfanaticscan show buttons only when stealthed now , as example
20:45.06Grumnice
20:45.20Grumcan you actually swap out buttons depending on the state?
20:45.30Grumso have 2 buttons overlapping - 1 for stealth .. 1 for nonstealth?
20:45.45Grumor is that not possible with the 'secureness' incombat ?
20:46.08KerafyrmGrum, Is that available to test now?
20:46.16Kerafyrmor should I say, use :)
20:46.25Grumyes
20:46.28Grumit is
20:46.32Kerafyrmschweet!
20:46.33cncfanaticsGrum, why would you do that when you can just tell a button to remap when stealthed/unstealthed
20:46.43cncfanaticsGrum, if you want to waste ressources you could do it that way though indeed
20:46.43Grumhehe nice ;D
20:46.49Grum:D
20:47.03Grumif that creates the same effect .. imba enough for me ;D
20:47.08CIA-1203kameril * r52054 10VisualThemes/Themes/ScaleFade.lua:
20:47.08CIA-12VisualThemes:
20:47.08CIA-12-No longer unintentionally reads the mail after the message just closed when Mail Box frames are themed with ScaleFade.
20:47.08CIA-12-No longer themes the TradeSkillFrame when Hemlock is loaded, should allow Hemlock to properly make queued poisons.
20:47.28Grumi might start using it .. if you create some gui-setup thingie :D
20:47.39GrumKerafyrm: testing is over actually
20:47.46Grumwe kinda consider it stable :)
20:47.48cncfanaticsI won't create that, someone is though , slowly
20:47.53Kerafyrmkinda? ;P
20:47.56Kerafyrmthats great news thou
20:47.56Grumconsidering i'm using it for a month :D
20:48.09Grumsome features are somewhat newer though
20:48.10KerafyrmI'll get it installed asap and try to break it for ya ;)
20:48.14Grumhehe
20:48.16Grumshould be doable
20:48.16CIA-1203nogudnik * r52055 10Skillet/ (10 files in 3 dirs):
20:48.16CIA-12Skillet:
20:48.16CIA-12- Speed up display when recipes are sorted
20:48.16CIA-12- Added sorting by crafted item level
20:48.16CIA-12- Trucate text of recipe buttons when there is not enough room.
20:48.17CIA-12- Added hookable method Skillet:UpdateTradeSkillWindow()
20:48.19Grumbut nothing i cant fix ^^
20:48.29Kerafyrmheh
20:48.31Kerafyrmafk a bit
20:48.35Grumenjoy .. ^^
20:49.05cncfanaticsGrum, btw, feature complete or not, flexbar is the most configurable actionbar mod around I think
20:49.20Grumcool :)
20:49.39Grumso how does the setting up work?
20:49.51Grumyou start with nothing .. add a button .. another one .. group em up ..
20:50.10Grumyou lock/unlock em and move em around .. meh .. i should just try it ^^
20:50.47cncfanaticsits pretty easy to make a basic setup
20:51.09Grumcan you make buttons for trinkets?
20:51.23Grumjust a button that fires trinketslot #1 or #2 ?
20:51.29cncfanaticswith a macro
20:51.37CIA-1203funkydude * r52056 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua:
20:51.37CIA-12BigWigs: ZulAman/Malacrass:
20:51.37CIA-12- add heal alerts
20:51.37CIA-12- add totem alerts
20:51.37cncfanaticsor directly with /fb setmodattr
20:51.47kebinusanmmm Carto_Routes looks interesting Grum, Im going to have to give it a try
20:51.55cncfanaticsyou can directly change the attributes of buttons if you know what you're doing
20:52.01Grumkebinusan: it rocks :)
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20:52.54CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52057 10FlexBar2/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
20:52.54CIA-12FlexBar2:
20:52.54CIA-12<PROTECTED>
20:52.54CIA-12<PROTECTED>
20:52.55CIA-12<PROTECTED>
20:53.09cncfanaticsw000tage its done
20:53.15CIA-1203funkydude * r52058 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ZulAmanBeta.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/ZulAmanBeta: Change zone in message as the mods are somewhat more stable now
20:53.19cncfanaticsnext on the list is change states when a button is mouseovered or clicked
20:53.54Mike-N-GoGreetings, where does one update the database of Tattle?
20:53.59Hjaltecncfanatics: can i change padding in flexbar?
20:55.24cncfanaticsHjalte, what u mean with padding ?
20:55.29cncfanatics~dictionary padding
20:55.30purlsee dict padding
20:55.37cncfanatics~dict padding
20:55.37Hjaltecncfanatics: How far apart the buttons are on my bar :)
20:55.43cncfanaticsHjalte, aah yea
20:56.04cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
20:56.10cncfanaticsyou can replace button= with group=
20:56.13cncfanaticsdefault space is 37
20:56.18cncfanaticsthat makes em line em exactly next to eachother
20:56.22Hjaltegreat
20:56.28cncfanaticsless will make them overlap, more will make them space out
20:57.23Grumcncfanatics: the buttons skinnable? :)
20:57.37CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52059 10FlexBar2/Button/Button.lua: FlexBar2: Fix an oversight
20:57.40cncfanaticsGrum, cyCircled is 100% supported
20:58.20cncfanaticsGrum, it seems to be more feature complete then u think it is xD
20:58.57Grumcncfanatics: just asking nothing more
20:59.10Grumso what do you think it has better than .. lets say .. Bartender?
20:59.28cncfanaticsmicromanagement of buttons mainly, and remaps
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20:59.32cncfanaticsand highlights
20:59.33cncfanaticsand textsubs
20:59.41cncfanaticsand modability
21:02.20Grummmm
21:02.31Grumand its very flex ofc ;D
21:02.59cncfanatics:)
21:03.09cncfanaticsand nearly bugfree
21:03.14cncfanaticsas far as I know at least, no known bugs
21:04.01Hjaltecncfanatics: It did it again. I've set up three bars, and began copying my spells from bartender. It seems only button1 (wand) is working - when i do the two lines you asked me to on button2 (shadow bolt) it says type set to nil and spell set to Shadow Bolt()
21:04.04Pkekyohow did people do on their first gruul try? approx percentage?
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21:05.37cncfanaticstype set to nil ?
21:05.38cncfanaticswth
21:05.40cncfanaticsgimme a sec
21:05.48cncfanaticssure u typed it correctly ?
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21:06.00cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
21:06.03Fisker-come on
21:06.12Hjaltecncfanatics: I copied what you gave me
21:06.18Fisker-we're getting overlapping earthquakes and blast novas now
21:06.28Hjaltecncfanatics: but dont worry, i'm sure it will work when i reload the ui
21:06.48cncfanaticsHjalte, it is worying me
21:06.51cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
21:06.53cncfanaticsdon't reload
21:07.06cncfanaticsbut give me the debug output please, when u drag a few (nonworking) spells on the bars
21:07.26Hjalteokay
21:08.44silentiumwindows file systems support filenames beginning with a period without problems, it's just the Windows Explorer (the explorer.exe GUI) that goes QQ about it... on the cmd.exe console (which is not DOS at all, even if it shares some commands with it) you can name files beginning with a period as you want
21:08.58Hjaltecncfanatics: uh. lots of text...
21:09.12cncfanaticsHjalte, I hope u can copypaste
21:09.22cncfanaticsI'm mainly intested in the ones metioning type & spell though
21:09.26cncfanaticsintrested*
21:09.29silentiumbut explorer.exe also goes QQ about file paths having more than 255 characters in total, while NTFS allows paths being up to 255 cascaded folders having 255 characters EACH
21:09.34Hjaltecncfanatics, i can, ill try and find something useful
21:10.03cncfanaticsshould have a few mentioning type, type-RightButton, type-MiddleButton, spell, spell-RightButto, & spell-MiddleButton attributes
21:11.17cncfanaticshmmm Hjalte, I just got the bug too, weirdish
21:11.30Hjaltecncfanatics: Now my spells work when i copy them. I still have the "old" buttons too though
21:11.33Hjaltecncfanatics: oh, great
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21:14.04Grumnice work on autobar ... breaking it BADLY
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21:14.31Grumso who does maintain that addon O.o
21:14.37cncfanaticsHjalte, let me track that, it seems weird
21:14.39cncfanaticsGrum, Toadkiller
21:14.44cncfanaticsjust revert if ur not happy tbh :p
21:15.29Grumits broken!
21:16.06Grumcompletely broken!
21:16.06Grum'just revert' ...
21:16.06Grumsigh ...
21:16.06Grum*shakes fist at MORONIC addon coders*
21:16.27Grumcncfanatics: cant you implement that in flexbar?
21:16.51cncfanaticsan autobar like stuff ?
21:16.54Grumyup
21:16.57cncfanaticssomeone could write a module for that
21:17.02cncfanaticsbut I got my hands full with other stuff
21:17.12Grumfree!
21:17.39Zhinjioanyone use pitbull on a rogue? I don't see combo points
21:18.09kenlyric|laptopi think they're little dots by default
21:18.20kenlyric|laptopbeen a while. there's a setting.
21:18.37Trell_yup Zhinjio - I have mine set to numbers
21:18.43Trell_showing inside right bottom
21:18.45ZhinjioI'll see if I can find it.
21:19.37cncfanaticsHjalte, think I catched the cause of the bug
21:19.40cncfanaticsnow lets see how I can fix it
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21:22.04ZhinjioTHe "Combo Points" module is definitely enabled, but I don't see it anywhere under the player frame settings.
21:22.07Zhinjiowhacky
21:22.47ZhinjioAh, its under "All units"
21:22.53cncfanaticsHjalte, fixed, thanks a ton
21:23.00Hjaltecncfanatics: no problem :D
21:23.12CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52060 10FlexBar2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): FlexBar2: Fix a bug when dragging spells on a button
21:23.33cncfanaticsthat was kind of a major bug caused by an oversight
21:23.35cryogendoes that fix my bug i wonder
21:23.51cncfanaticswhat was ur bug cryogen ?
21:23.53cryogenwindows explorer has stopped working..
21:23.54cryogensigh
21:23.58cryogenthe one i told you about
21:24.05cryogenwhere if you drag a action off a button you cant put it back
21:24.08cryogenor you can, but it doesnt work
21:24.17cncfanaticsyep
21:24.19cncfanaticssame issue
21:24.46cryogenyup fixed
21:24.56cryogenhowever, usbility still isnt updating when i shapeshift
21:25.03cryogenusability
21:25.18cncfanaticsit should
21:25.24cryogenit does for remapped buttons
21:25.28cryogennon remapped buttons it does not
21:25.28Kerafyrmyay food
21:26.53cncfanaticshmmm
21:27.19cncfanaticsself:AddEventListener("UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS", "CheckUsable"); why doesn't that work ?
21:27.30cncfanaticsaaah no S in the event name
21:27.31cncfanaticsgot it
21:27.56CIA-1203cncfanatics * r52061 10FlexBar2/Highlighting/Highlighting.lua: FlexBar2: Fix a typo that would cause highlights to not update on shapeshifting
21:27.58cncfanaticsthere you go
21:28.59CIA-1203gagorian * r52062 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/SoulJarFu.lua:
21:28.59CIA-12FuBar_SoulJarFu:
21:28.59CIA-12- Some minor cleanup
21:29.13cncfanaticsI'm gonna go to bed now, g'night
21:29.30cryogennn!
21:30.52CIA-1203chinkuwaila * r52063 10BigBrother/localization_deDE.lua:
21:30.52CIA-12BigBrother:
21:30.52CIA-12- localization_deDE.lua: translation of the "Shattrath Flask of Relentless Assault" changed to the correct text (which actually itself is wrong ingame)
21:30.52CIA-12- some minor typos corrected
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21:36.53cryogenhmm
21:37.00cryogensomeone has been pissing about with pitbull defaults
21:40.02cryogenhrm, unpleasant deaults at that
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21:47.40AdysAnyone who has been in Zul'Aman or has done new quests on the PTR 2.3 with 5 mins spare?
21:47.48Trell_whats up Adys?
21:48.00AdysTrell_: ill pm you in a sec
21:48.04Trell_sure.
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21:50.30bloodlustcan anyone help me with omen threat meter?
21:50.46bloodlustlooking for the newest one
21:51.28Trell_http://files.wowace.com
21:52.43bloodlusti got the one from there but it says somone in my guild has a newer one?
21:52.56Kerafyrmyay chargers!
21:53.13bloodlust51732
21:53.55silentiumbloodlust: do you run the Threat-1.0 lib as disembedded? then you might want to update that one too
21:55.03ulic51502.9 is the latest Omen, 52048 is the latest Threat-1.0 so it seems.
21:55.30ulicthe latest Omen should always contain the latest Threat-1.0 if you run embeded libraries.
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22:12.14ckknighthey all
22:12.37Kerafyrmheyya ck
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22:18.58CIA-12.ZulAman :
22:18.58CIA-12<PROTECTED>
22:19.17cryogenckknight: who messed with pitbull defaults? :(
22:19.30ckknightcheck the log
22:19.41cryogendidnt see anything too relavant
22:19.44cryogenunless someone broke something
22:19.58cryogenbut i logged in to find portraits enabled, and my unitframes all faded out
22:20.11Chompershey ckk
22:20.18Chompersnew dexter tonight
22:20.23Funkeh`isn't there some vendor somewher that sells flowers?
22:20.24Chompers2x03
22:20.31JoshBorkecryogen: disable CombatFader
22:21.00cryogenJoshBorke: hmm
22:21.11cryogenso somehow all the enabled modules got reset maybe?
22:21.19kenlyric|laptopFunkeh`: there's a horde one in thunderbluff and an alliance one in stormwind
22:21.30Funkeh`kenlyric|laptop, thanks
22:21.57ckknightChompers: ^^
22:22.42Trell_mmm just copied all my addons over to the test realm, and no errors yet, but something weird happens when I click interface from the game menu, my whole ui just dissapears - all I'm trying to do is get rid of the bottom left and right default blizz bars - is there any /slash command to do that?
22:22.55GnarfozGrum, Xinhuan: Routes doesn't seem to work right on deDE - throws erros on route creation if the zone name is non-english
22:23.22Kerafyrmbullllllllllshit call by the refs
22:24.13GnarfozTSP.lua:677 attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'zoneW' (a nil value)
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22:28.10orionshockmorning all
22:28.31CIA-1203ckknight * r52066 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - add onChange handler for type = 'string', which is called every time the string changes.
22:29.06Funkeh`kenlyric|laptop, do you remember the name of the vendor? as in <flower vendor> or whatever?
22:29.09HjalteAnyone know how to build a petbar with flexbar?
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22:30.06orionshockhumm... found the external dbs error
22:30.08orionshock>.>
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22:30.17kenlyric|laptophttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=3420
22:30.26kenlyric|laptopthere's one of the flowers they sell.
22:31.10Trell_does anyone at all know if theres any slash commands I can type to remove blizzards bottom right/left action bars?
22:31.29kenlyric|laptopman, that'd be nice.
22:31.41kenlyric|laptopI want one for cloak/helm
22:31.54cryogenTrell_: find out the frame name and :Hide() on it
22:32.10kenlyric|laptopI hate the fact that cloak/helm settings are account-wide.
22:32.40Trell_bleh, whats the command for frame name again
22:32.49Trell_i can't remember where to find the commands :X
22:37.06Gnarfoz~seen grum
22:37.09purlgrum is currently on #wowace (2d 12m 41s). Has said a total of 307 messages. Is idling for 1h 19m 57s, last said: 'free!'.
22:37.12Gnarfoz~seen xinhuan
22:37.13purlxinhuan is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 14m 23s) #wowace (2d 14m 23s) #wowwiki (2d 14m 23s). Has said a total of 476 messages. Is idling for 4h 55m 6s, last said: 'which is pretty silly since you can have a "precompiled" sequence to run through'.
22:37.24Xinhuanhi
22:37.29Gnarfozhi
22:37.34GnarfozXinhuan: Routes doesn't seem to work right on deDE - throws erros on route creation if the zone name is non-english
22:37.39GnarfozTSP.lua:677 attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'zoneW' (a nil value)
22:37.56Xinhuani see
22:38.07Xinhuanuh let me see
22:38.08Gnarfozlooks like a problem with localized zone names? it works without errors on zones that have the same name in both enUS and deDE, like Azshara
22:38.21XinhuanTourist doesn't accept non-english names?
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22:38.33orionshockckknight: ping
22:38.55orionshock>.>
22:39.06GnarfozXinhuan: also for some reason, in the 'node' dropdown that selects for which nodes to create the route, herb names aren't localized, but professions are :)
22:39.09orionshockckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/75311  --im sure youve seen this error before?
22:39.14ckknightpong
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22:39.24GnarfozXinhuan: it should? through reverse translation or some such, I'd guess
22:39.30ckknightuh, long time ago
22:39.32Xinhuanyep
22:39.33charonAntiarc: i just had a rather weird problem where the entire party was displayed as not using omen, when in fact they were, and after a reload it's ok... do you think joining the party while in arathi could have something to do with it
22:39.35charon?
22:39.48ckknightorionshock: did it happen on login?
22:39.52orionshockckknight: ya
22:39.57Xinhuanargh, i need to find the zone translation table
22:40.04orionshocki changed cart over to LoD modules and it did this
22:40.26orionshocki was running it as a single non-LoD addon until lastnight
22:40.52orionshocki think i found the problem
22:40.59orionshockwell the first part of it
22:41.23ckknightoh?
22:41.57Xinhuancan you go to line 677
22:42.05orionshockckknight: it's a load sequence
22:42.09Xinhuanand change the variable "zone"
22:42.12GnarfozXinhuan: if not BZ:HasTranslation(zone) then        if BZ:HasReverseTranslation(zone) then             zone = BZ:GetReverseTranslation(zone)
22:42.14ckknightyea
22:42.17Xinhuanto BZ[zone]
22:42.23Gnarfozcommented out at core.lua ~104-ish? ^^
22:42.27Xinhuanno wait
22:42.28Xinhuanhmm
22:42.33orionshockin the OnInit() the table is made, and things are trying to register before it' created
22:42.40Grum<Gnarfoz> ~seen grum <-- sup?
22:42.43ckknightyea, which is odd
22:42.58GnarfozGrum: see since ~seen xinhuan ;)
22:43.11HjalteAny warlocks or hunters around using Flexbar?
22:43.13Xinhuanwhy did you say yesterday it doens't error out pfft
22:43.15orionshockckknight: specificly ToFuNotes
22:43.25Grumsigh
22:43.28Grumlol
22:43.42orionshockckknight:  debug lines ... they are grate
22:43.45GnarfozXinhuan: because I just localized it ;-) I was using an enGB client ;)
22:43.55ckknightorionshock: ur mom's grate
22:43.59orionshocklol
22:44.00Xinhuangrum can you commit a reverse lookup to my functions?
22:44.13Grumhumz
22:44.30Grumwhere do you get a localized zone?
22:44.34Gnarfozyeah, seems like it's missing like, everywhere :>
22:44.40Gnarfozreverse translate through BZ
22:44.49Xinhuani accept the zonename in my TSP functions remember?
22:44.53GnarfozI have NO idea how that is done however :D
22:44.57Xinhuanor can you change all your function calls
22:45.01Xinhuanin core.lua
22:45.08Xinhuanto only send the english name
22:45.15Grumproblem is - i need to know from where the localized zone is send
22:45.27Grumbecause whenever we get the zone we do 'GetEnglishZoneText' from carto
22:45.51orionshockyep - Add Cart_Notes to Optional Deps in ToFu and error went away
22:45.55Grum<PROTECTED>
22:46.09Xinhuando you have the callstack before 677?
22:47.05GnarfozXinhuan: me? sorry no, the guy who asked me if I knew what was going on didn't have any Buggraber/Swatter thingy, just a screenshot of the blizz error box
22:47.25Xinhuano_O
22:47.27XinhuanGrum fix it
22:48.19Xinhuanthere's only 7 places that calls TSP lol
22:49.02CIA-1203sayclub * r52067 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
22:49.02CIA-12.Babble-Spell-2.2 :
22:49.02CIA-12<PROTECTED>
22:49.14CIA-1203orionshock * r52068 10FuBar_ToFu/FuBar_ToFu.toc:
22:49.14CIA-12FuBar_ToFu:
22:49.14CIA-12-Add Cartographer_Notes to Optional Deps so that it loads before we try to add things to it's Notes DB.
22:53.53XinhuanGnarfoz: so you don't actually use a non-english client?
22:55.07Xinhuantesting this kind of change is going to be impossible
22:56.41GnarfozXinhuan: for me, at least, yes
22:56.52Gnarfozsilentium: are you on deDE? ^^
22:57.23Gnarfoz(I'd be surprised if he was ^^)
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23:05.22CIA-1203xinhuan * r52069 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes.toc: Cartographer_Routes: Add Cartographer_Notes to OptionalDeps so that it loads before Routes if disembedded.
23:05.51iyihi everyone
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23:06.12baer_yes, lurker down! :)
23:06.14orionshockis the author of Cart_NoteShare still arround?
23:06.26Xinhuangood catch orionshock ;p
23:06.41orionshockdebuging .. it's a bitch :D
23:07.46orionshockace core loads but no /ace command?
23:08.05orionshockit must be part of consoul..
23:08.59orionshock>.> herb / mining / notshare all have bad externals...
23:11.43orionshocka question of logic here, considering that Herb, Mining, and Noteshare all depend on Cartographer to begin with and will not load with out. would it seem reasonable to only add externals to the modules that the core doesn't already provide?
23:12.35XinhuanNotes comes as part of Cartographer
23:12.47Xinhuanso if Cartographer is "RequiredDeps"
23:12.54XinhuanNotes always loads before
23:13.07Xinhuanthis assumes Notes is embedded in Cartographer
23:13.21Xinhuanif Notes isn't embedded, then adding it to OptDeps will be sufficient
23:13.29orionshock.. note share! not notes.. but ya
23:13.45Xinhuani.e reqdeps = carto, optdeps = carto_notes
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23:14.27Xinhuannoteshare should use that
23:14.30orionshockXinhuan: .... not the issue at hand, but a valid point :D
23:14.44Xinhuannoteshare isn't part of the core carto package
23:14.48Xinhuanso its always disembedded
23:14.51Pkekyo!c eu bloodfeather returners
23:14.53Xinhuanand an addon
23:14.54ThraeBotPkekyo: Returners, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/50/11). 8064 HP; 5060 Mana; 116 mana regen; 2 mp5; 3684 Armour; 1120 AP; 161.900 Melee DPS; 23.66% melee crit; 177 melee hit; 31 +heal; 27.48% dodge; 24 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1634 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22obgq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vyylp ][ Updated: Sun Oct 14 19:17:05 2007 EST ]]
23:15.02Xinhuanso you can always specify it as a reqdep
23:15.11orionshockthe questions was that these 3 modules that are not part of Cartogrpaher core; they still have ace2 dependanceys. but cart proper has some of them..
23:15.35Xinhuanthe ace2 deps are needed to be listed because
23:15.40orionshockbecause of the required relationship is it enough that they only include the Ace2 libs that Cartographer dosn't have allready
23:15.41XinhuanCartographer may change frameworks
23:15.43Xinhuanat any time
23:15.52Xinhuanwhile the herb/mine doesn't change
23:15.56Grumis there any way to get a localized wow client?
23:16.01Grumgerman one orso?
23:16.33Grumhttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/downloads/elp/
23:16.36orionshockok Xinhuan this one is on your head :P
23:16.36Grumah you can
23:17.20Xinhuanlol 250 mb
23:17.49Grumwell worth it
23:17.54Grumthen i can actually test the addons
23:17.57Grumand via torrent .. SIGH
23:17.59Xinhuani won't be able to use that
23:18.08Xinhuani don't have a EU account ;p
23:18.14CIA-1203pettigrow * r52070 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (Akil'zon.lua Nalorakk.lua): BigWigs: ZulAman: frFR Update
23:18.15Grumwell at least i can test it O.o
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23:18.29Xinhuan"How do I switch my language after I have installed the ELP?"
23:18.39Xinhuan"Before entering the game, start the launcher and click on the "Options" button. At the bottom of the page you can choose which language to use. Inside the game, if you go to the interface setting you can choose which language to use, but then you will need to restart the game for the change of language to occur."
23:19.20Grumat least i can check if localization works O.o
23:19.23Xinhuani wonder if there are enough strings in wow
23:19.30Xinhuanto require 250 mb of localizations
23:19.37Grumoooh its mostly vocals ofc
23:19.46Xinhuani see
23:19.52Grumpoooploads of shouts/emotes/jokes
23:19.57CIA-1203ackis * r52071 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua):
23:19.57CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
23:19.57CIA-12-Added 2.3 cooking recipe (commented out til patch)
23:21.51CIA-1203yhwh * r52072 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-zhCN.lua:
23:21.52CIA-12Skillet:
23:21.52CIA-12- update zhCN locale
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23:29.16Pkekyohttp://fc01.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/282/6/8/68e7f97a75a3a005.png any idea how this was made?
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23:32.10Balstorhmm portal time challenge video
23:32.27Beutjuis it normal that i get dismounted when trying to fly to netherwing ledge (the floating island at shadowmoon valley where you do netherdragon quests) with a normal mount?
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23:32.55Balstornot normal
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23:41.46ckknightalright, fixed my cord
23:42.25CIA-1203anxarces * r52073 10ProfessionsBook/ (PB_DB.lua PB_Scan.lua ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt):
23:42.25CIA-12ProfessionsBook:
23:42.26CIA-12- Fixed an error displaying only one character knowing a certain recipe even if more characters know it.
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23:43.04Silowyiwtb: replacement for ct buff mod
23:43.06Pkekyohlepz0r plx :) http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/282/6/8/68e7f97a75a3a005.png anyone got any idea how this was made?
23:43.13Silowyisince it no longer works for me
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23:43.57PkekyoSilowyi: exactly what does ct buff mod do?
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23:44.19Silowyione sec
23:45.17HjaltePkekyo: You build a spaceship, go out in space, find a blue star and you take a picture.
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23:45.32PkekyoHjalte: and if you don't have the funding?
23:45.47SilowyiPkekyo: http://www.accasia.net/ctbuff.jpg
23:46.05Pkekyofucking clicking links... (mouse ran out of batteries)
23:46.20Silowyisomewhat hard to explain
23:46.31Pkekyojust keeps track of your current buffs?
23:46.45Pkekyoget EBBs asap z ulu
23:47.27Pkekyomight seem hard to config at first, but once you get used to it it's heaven
23:48.09SilowyiEBBs asap z ulu?
23:48.28PkekyoElkano's Buff Bars
23:48.28Pkekyoasap zulu = as soon as possible, preferably an hour ago
23:48.39Pkekyofiles.wowace.com
23:48.49Silowyiah
23:49.06orionshockLOL, dewdroplib has a possible rock OO segment..
23:49.45Pkekyodid ckk screw it up?
23:49.51orionshockno
23:50.27orionshockit's just an optional "use rock and not shit a brick if the dev didn't bother adding AceOO to the externals list"
23:50.50Pkekyohuh
23:51.00Hjaltevhaarr, my friend just told me that when he is using DBMFTLBBQ to fake ready checks from DBM he has to stand really close to the person doing the ready check, whereas people with DBM can be far away or even outside the instance and it will still work. Is this something you can do anything about?
23:51.53PkekyoDBMFTLBBQ?
23:52.22HjaltePkekyo: Yeah. It fakes the ready checks from DBM, making it look like you are running DBM.
23:52.57Pkekyofor what purpose, exactly?
23:53.11HjaltePkekyo: So that you can run Bigwigs instead...
23:53.40Xinhuanumm, there is a utility in game, in the default UI, called /readycheck
23:53.51Xinhuanwhy would you ever use a readycheck that is coded inside a mod
23:53.51PkekyoHjalte: bigwigs run fine without it?
23:53.58PkekyoXinhuan: agreed
23:54.34HjaltePkekyo: Of course it does, but for example in my friends guild, the raid leaders say that he MUST run Deadly Boss Mods.
23:54.46Hjalteoh
23:54.50HjalteI didnt mean ready checks
23:54.53PkekyoHjalte: then his raid leaders are complete fucktards, and ought to be replaced :)
23:54.54HjalteI meant version checks
23:55.10Pkekyodid a joint gruul run with another guild tonight... (first time)...never EVER abused so many randoms to that extent within such a short span of time before ^^
23:55.28dreamsswhat addon would u guys recomend for moving the blizz frames?
23:55.31Xinhuanwhat a loser
23:55.47Xinhuani allow my guild to run any addon they wish, as long as they don't die.
23:55.54Pkekyodreamss: first thing that comes to mind is MoveAnything
23:56.13PkekyoXinhuan: sounds good....a threat meter ought to be utillized though
23:56.28Xinhuanall the paladins in my guild don't use any threat meter.
23:56.46Xinhuanpaladins will almost never pull aggro in a raid situation
23:57.10Pkekyoheh
23:57.17Xinhuanso i don't force it either
23:57.50Xinhuanif they pull aggro, it'll be in the first 5 seconds of a fight, and they do a huge healing crit
23:57.59Xinhuanand omen or not, you can't do anything about it ;p
23:58.07Pkekyomy guild has a "use KTM and DBM" policy, but if you find an alternative, they really don't give a shit...I've converted 95% of my guild to Omen allready....started getting some of them over to bigwigs now
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