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| 00:02.58 | Ellipsis | Mecdemort: that's how it works o.O |
| 00:03.51 | Balstor | yhea so you may need to layer just an edge frame around whatever |
| 00:04.16 | Mecdemort | so i have to make another frame just to have a border? |
| 00:04.58 | Klazar | just gotta say thanx for the Autobar fixes!! I was on here yesterday whin'n 'bout not being able to move the bar...today its like WoW.. :-) |
| 00:06.42 | Mecdemort | so let me get this right, i have to make a parent frame just to hold the border, and then manually size the other frame? |
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| 00:07.10 | Balstor | thats what i fianlly decided mecdemort i can't seen to find any way around it , someone else may know how but haven;t seen the solution |
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| 00:08.02 | Mecdemort | blizz's stupidity will never cease to amaze me |
| 00:08.18 | Nargiddley | what is overlapping the border ? |
| 00:08.34 | Mecdemort | the whole frame |
| 00:08.54 | NeoTron | so the new caster metagem requires exactyl 2 blue gems |
| 00:08.58 | NeoTron | what a dumb requirement |
| 00:09.05 | JoshBorke | Mecdemort: did you try setting a negative inset? |
| 00:09.21 | Mecdemort | ya it doesnt do anything |
| 00:09.53 | Nargiddley | what is 'the whole frame' ? |
| 00:10.40 | Mecdemort | http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9288/fubarph8.jpg |
| 00:10.55 | Nargiddley | so its children of the frame ? |
| 00:11.13 | SpaceDoG | which is bettter... with or without externals? |
| 00:11.39 | Mecdemort | there's only one frame |
| 00:11.39 | JoshBorke | is that a statusbar? |
| 00:11.40 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51813 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/ (. Cartographer_Routes.toc Core.lua embeds.xml): |
| 00:11.40 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 00:11.40 | CIA-12 | - Localized add-route data dropdown [TODO #2: Done] |
| 00:11.40 | CIA-12 | - Picked better default route color [TODO #7: Done] |
| 00:11.44 | Mecdemort | yes |
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| 00:12.19 | Mecdemort | it's a statusbar that i'm trying to add a border to without creating a new frame |
| 00:14.33 | Balstor | do this |
| 00:14.47 | Balstor | -- |
| 00:14.49 | Balstor | -- This will surrond the edit box in a blizzard style texture |
| 00:14.50 | Balstor | -- |
| 00:14.53 | Balstor | L02_edb_l=L02_edb_0:CreateTexture("Interface/ChatFrame/UI-ChatInputBorder-Left" ,"BACKGROUND"); |
| 00:14.55 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetTexture("Interface/ChatFrame/UI-ChatInputBorder-Left"); |
| 00:14.56 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetPoint('LEFT' ,L02_edb_0 ,'LEFT' ,-10 ,0 ); |
| 00:14.58 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetTexCoord(0.0,0.2,0.0,1.0) |
| 00:14.59 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetHeight(32); |
| 00:15.01 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetWidth(75); |
| 00:15.02 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetAlpha(db.profile.alpha) |
| 00:15.04 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:Show(); |
| 00:15.05 | Balstor | L02_edb_l=L02_edb_0:CreateTexture("Interface/ChatFrame/UI-ChatInputBorder-Right" ,"BACKGROUND"); |
| 00:15.05 | Mecdemort | l2pastey |
| 00:15.07 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetTexture("Interface/ChatFrame/UI-ChatInputBorder-Right"); |
| 00:15.07 | NivFreak | damn |
| 00:15.08 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetPoint('LEFT' ,L02_edb_0 ,'LEFT' ,10 ,0 ); |
| 00:15.10 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetTexCoord(0.7,1.0,0,1.0) |
| 00:15.12 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetHeight(32); |
| 00:15.12 | NivFreak | bartender3 hates me on the PTR |
| 00:15.13 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetWidth(75); |
| 00:15.15 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:SetAlpha(db.profile.alpha) |
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| 00:15.16 | Balstor | L02_edb_l:Show(); |
| 00:15.18 | Balstor | |
| 00:15.20 | Balstor | that may be more like what you want |
| 00:15.29 | Funkeh` | like lol? |
| 00:15.33 | ZealotOnAStick | If you paste more than 4 lines in this channel, use Pastey.net |
| 00:15.35 | Funkeh` | Don't do that again |
| 00:15.39 | Funkeh` | use pastey.net |
| 00:15.51 | NivFreak | bartender3 hates me on the PTR |
| 00:15.57 | NivFreak | bar10 wipes itself when i change stances |
| 00:16.03 | NivFreak | heh |
| 00:16.06 | Funkeh` | blame nevcairiel |
| 00:16.51 | NivFreak | if I have to use default actionbars, I might die! :) |
| 00:17.20 | [AoC]Camci | Anyone know if the UI char copy is working? |
| 00:17.24 | [AoC]Camci | EU* |
| 00:20.04 | Polarina | Why didn't you copy your character 1 or 2 days before they opened the PTRs? |
| 00:20.42 | [AoC]Camci | ddint know you could...? |
| 00:20.54 | Polarina | I did and it worked for me. :) |
| 00:20.59 | [AoC]Camci | >.< |
| 00:21.04 | [AoC]Camci | so the copy doesnt work now? |
| 00:21.20 | NeoTron | nope |
| 00:21.24 | Polarina | :D |
| 00:21.29 | [AoC]Camci | :x |
| 00:21.40 | NeoTron | well NA doesn't |
| 00:21.43 | NeoTron | don't know about EU |
| 00:21.50 | SpaceDoG | which is bettter... with or without externals? |
| 00:21.58 | NivFreak | without |
| 00:22.23 | [AoC]Camci | im pressing the "public test" but nothing happens :P |
| 00:22.28 | Polarina | !vs eu Test Realm EU PvE Polarina eu Scarshield Legion Polarina |
| 00:22.28 | ThraeBot | Polarina: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 00:22.37 | Polarina | ThraeBot: You suck! |
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| 00:25.52 | Gagorian | Ellipsis: Well I can add it |
| 00:29.16 | CIA-12 | 03gagorian * r51814 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/SoulJarFu.lua: |
| 00:29.16 | CIA-12 | FuBar_SoulJarFu: |
| 00:29.16 | CIA-12 | - .independentProfile = true |
| 00:29.24 | Gagorian | Can't recall if that does it |
| 00:29.27 | Gagorian | Perhaps! |
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| 00:30.33 | Tinyboom | yay for EU ptr copy working again:p |
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| 00:31.22 | CIA-12 | 03gagorian * r51815 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/SoulJarFu.lua: |
| 00:31.22 | CIA-12 | FuBar_SoulJarFu: |
| 00:31.22 | CIA-12 | - Reverted last commit. hideWithoutStandby = true |
| 00:31.29 | Chompers | it's back up Tinyboom? |
| 00:32.03 | Tinyboom | was working for me at least, 3 chars copied:) |
| 00:32.08 | Chompers | i still can't access the page |
| 00:32.09 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51816 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/TSP.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Add TSP:InsertNode() function |
| 00:32.42 | hypetech | I think I'm just going to level this level 1 on the PTR, probably be faster than my char transfer |
| 00:32.58 | NivFreak | took 1 day for me |
| 00:33.06 | NivFreak | which was exactly what they predicted |
| 00:33.07 | hypetech | well I can't even get in the queue yet |
| 00:33.11 | hypetech | US is hammered |
| 00:33.16 | NivFreak | <-- us |
| 00:33.21 | hypetech | -.- |
| 00:33.27 | hypetech | ./hate |
| 00:33.48 | NivFreak | they didn't buff the stats on steelgrip guantlets =/ |
| 00:33.58 | NivFreak | I was hoping they'd make it worth something |
| 00:34.29 | Chompers | Due to the exceptional traffic affecting this application at the moment your transfer cannot be processed |
| 00:34.31 | Chompers | balls |
| 00:35.17 | hypetech | they should make priority paid PTR copies |
| 00:35.18 | [AoC]Camci | copied my char 20 min ago was hoping it would be rdy :/ |
| 00:35.19 | [AoC]Camci | :p |
| 00:35.23 | hypetech | I'd pay $5 to have it copied now |
| 00:35.24 | hypetech | lol |
| 00:35.54 | Chompers | an average wait time of 4 days :O |
| 00:36.03 | [AoC]Camci | :S |
| 00:36.08 | hypetech | The character copy queue is currently full. |
| 00:36.09 | hypetech | Please check back later. We apologize for any inconvenience cause and thank you for your understanding. |
| 00:36.10 | hypetech | =( |
| 00:36.18 | NivFreak | you can fly to EPL from silvermoon now |
| 00:36.19 | NivFreak | finally |
| 00:36.22 | [AoC]Camci | :D |
| 00:36.57 | Polarina | NivFreak: And when does the loading screen pop up? |
| 00:37.24 | NivFreak | I haven't tried it yet |
| 00:37.31 | NivFreak | but you can choose LHC now |
| 00:37.33 | NivFreak | from silvermoon |
| 00:37.38 | NivFreak | I'm going to check out ZA :P |
| 00:37.52 | hypetech | Polarina: they may have taken out the portal |
| 00:37.58 | CIA-12 | 03hodor * r51817 10FeralDebuffList/ (FeralDebuffList.toc core.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 00:37.58 | CIA-12 | FeralDebuffList |
| 00:37.58 | CIA-12 | - Updated toc |
| 00:37.58 | CIA-12 | - Updated to new LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 00:37.58 | CIA-12 | - Updated to new LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0 |
| 00:38.08 | Polarina | o.O |
| 00:38.15 | hypetech | heh |
| 00:38.32 | Polarina | Now non-TBC users can use hacks to get to Blood Elves place.. |
| 00:38.42 | hypetech | hmm |
| 00:38.55 | hypetech | maybe it acts like a zeppelin now? |
| 00:39.30 | NivFreak | http://ace.pastey.net/75230 |
| 00:39.36 | NivFreak | poor bartedner |
| 00:39.41 | NivFreak | bartender even |
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| 00:42.49 | CIA-12 | 03happywarbird * r51818 10SmartQueue/Locale-deDE.lua: |
| 00:42.49 | CIA-12 | SmartQueue: |
| 00:42.49 | CIA-12 | -edit Locale-deDE.lua (2 Errors) |
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| 00:49.13 | CIA-12 | 03adirelle * r51819 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: CastYeller: fixed Babble error with custom announces. |
| 00:52.45 | kebinusan | anyone know if theres a ZA map up anywhere |
| 00:54.40 | Funkeh` | I added one to carto like before 2.1 |
| 00:55.03 | kenlyric | so, what's the point of snake trap? A wildly dangerous version of immolation trap? |
| 00:55.11 | Wobin | snaketrap is great |
| 00:55.21 | Wobin | it applies crippling and deadly poison |
| 00:55.27 | Wobin | (and mindnumbing?) |
| 00:55.29 | kenlyric | so it's a pvp trap? |
| 00:55.32 | Wobin | kinda |
| 00:55.37 | Wobin | well mostly in use in pvp |
| 00:55.39 | kebinusan | ah my carto isnt working in 2.3 |
| 00:55.44 | kenlyric | that'd make sense with the pushback. |
| 00:55.47 | kebinusan | well not automagically |
| 00:55.49 | Wobin | but also in boss encounters that have 'random' MC |
| 00:55.52 | kebinusan | I'll try bringing up the instance map |
| 00:56.04 | Wobin | like Skyriss |
| 00:56.32 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: mindnumbing is the best oen |
| 00:56.33 | Wobin | Cause the boss has a chance of MCing a snake |
| 00:56.40 | Wobin | or Shade of Aran |
| 00:56.47 | Wobin | cause he can target a snake |
| 00:56.52 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, they absorb fear charges too |
| 00:57.12 | hyperChipmunk | the mindnumbing poison is great for mobs that cast heal, too |
| 00:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | those friggin' wardens in durnholde >8P |
| 00:57.34 | hypetech | should get hunters to drop those on the channelers in mag's lair >.> |
| 00:57.50 | kebinusan | [2007/10/12 20:32:48-185-x1]: Cartographer-r49943\Cartographer.lua:749: attempt to index field 'playerModel' (a nil value) but I havent updated in a few days |
| 00:57.54 | Wobin | In most places it's useful =) |
| 00:58.00 | Corey | is there any xp bar addon that has the same look as the default one or similar bubbles? and is there a mod that makes aguf show the countdown of buffs/debuffs the greying out clockwise as it expires |
| 00:58.08 | Funkeh` | kebinusan: are you in ZA now? |
| 00:58.09 | hyperChipmunk | plus it's really really cool =) |
| 00:58.30 | hypetech | I think the bongos xp bar looks pretty similar to the default one |
| 00:58.50 | hypetech | but the one in bartender3 is the same one and you can move it around too |
| 00:58.51 | hypetech | so ya |
| 00:58.55 | hypetech | whichever |
| 00:59.22 | hypetech | been a while since I've seen an xp bar =( |
| 01:00.26 | CIA-12 | 03roartindon * r51820 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: TagCompiler-1.0: Added "Script" for advanced users to include Lua script within tags |
| 01:00.31 | Corey | i find the bubbles make it seem easier.. oh im only 8 bubbles away thats not too bad kinda thing lol |
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| 01:01.08 | hypetech | I always feel like the percentage makes me feel like I'm closer |
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| 01:01.19 | Corey | i also like how aguf look but i dont like how it doesn't show when debuffs and buffs end like default ones and pitbull do |
| 01:01.44 | hypetech | bah |
| 01:01.48 | hypetech | that's only since 2.2 anyway |
| 01:01.53 | hypetech | I don't even have that spiral enabled |
| 01:01.57 | hypetech | use quartz debuff timers |
| 01:07.15 | kebinusan | Funkeh`: yeah |
| 01:07.51 | Funkeh` | kebinusan: can you do a /print GetRealZoneText() please |
| 01:08.52 | kebinusan | "Zul'Aman" |
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| 01:13.13 | NivFreak | huh |
| 01:13.19 | NivFreak | ore veins pulse now |
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| 01:14.17 | chexsum | aguf on svn has debuff timers |
| 01:16.36 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51821 10AutoBar/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 01:16.36 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 01:16.37 | CIA-12 | - Add fixed AceConsole-2.0.lua |
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| 01:16.49 | kenlyric | NivFreak: they should just shoot beams up in the air. |
| 01:16.57 | NivFreak | wwow |
| 01:17.00 | NivFreak | so you do still portal |
| 01:17.02 | NivFreak | whe flying |
| 01:17.05 | NivFreak | but you go through the map |
| 01:17.09 | NivFreak | hahaa |
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| 01:17.55 | NivFreak | this FP is messed up |
| 01:18.06 | NivFreak | I'm over nothingness |
| 01:18.55 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 01:19.09 | NivFreak | and now I think I'm stuck.... |
| 01:19.55 | Ellipsis | gg Blizz |
| 01:20.29 | NivFreak | haha |
| 01:20.35 | NivFreak | eventually it left me back in the pass |
| 01:20.37 | NivFreak | by the portal |
| 01:20.39 | NivFreak | flagged |
| 01:22.05 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51822 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 01:22.05 | CIA-12 | .Babble-Boss-2.2 : |
| 01:22.05 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:28.59 | hypetech | I'm gonna cry |
| 01:29.02 | hypetech | char copy is back up |
| 01:29.05 | hypetech | but still sucks :( |
| 01:29.39 | Comxx | WHAT SUCKS ABOUT IT |
| 01:29.46 | Comxx | opps caps |
| 01:29.51 | hypetech | I got to the last step that time before I got the error :( |
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| 01:30.43 | Comxx | where Ckk when i need him lol |
| 01:31.20 | Ellipsis | why do you need him? |
| 01:31.48 | Comxx | damn it i install the beta Autobar |
| 01:32.32 | Comxx | dont now my Commit are up for his addons |
| 01:32.56 | Ellipsis | ...wuh? |
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| 01:34.20 | Comxx | i change a few of his .toc files to 2.2 |
| 01:34.52 | Comxx | and i wanted to know why they where not in svn yet that all |
| 01:35.14 | Ellipsis | er...you committed changes to his addons on the svn? |
| 01:35.59 | Bejitt | what's the 'real' zone text for the eye? |
| 01:36.08 | hyperChipmunk | tempest keep |
| 01:36.19 | Bejitt | thanks |
| 01:36.51 | Comxx | yes |
| 01:37.24 | Ellipsis | and they're no longer like that on the svn? |
| 01:37.33 | Comxx | the changes are there now so it ok |
| 01:38.04 | Ellipsis | uh...ok |
| 01:39.11 | Bejitt | and Hyjal's real zone text is.. Caverns of Time ? |
| 01:39.24 | hyperChipmunk | hyjal summit i think |
| 01:39.30 | Comxx | Sorry about that Ellipsis |
| 01:40.38 | Comxx | does he have to approve the changes or something? |
| 01:41.18 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 01:41.25 | hyperChipmunk | just submit them |
| 01:41.32 | Comxx | i did lol |
| 01:41.53 | hyperChipmunk | he's never checked his own commits; he's not gonna check yours >8) |
| 01:42.03 | Comxx | lol |
| 01:43.16 | hypetech | fucking hell |
| 01:43.23 | hypetech | well I'm consistently getting to the last step now |
| 01:43.26 | hypetech | that's progress |
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| 01:44.58 | Ellipsis | Comxx, I'm confused...you said you committed something to the svn but it wasn't showing up in svn...but your commits show for me o.O |
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| 01:45.38 | hypetech | fuck! |
| 01:45.39 | hypetech | The character copy queue is currently full. |
| 01:45.39 | hypetech | Please check back later. We apologize for any inconvenience cause and thank you for your understanding. |
| 01:45.41 | hypetech | =( |
| 01:45.43 | Comxx | yea |
| 01:46.08 | hyperChipmunk | prolly CIA in slack mode |
| 01:47.16 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: try copying to pvp, it seems less broken |
| 01:47.45 | hypetech | meh |
| 01:47.53 | hypetech | guess I'll try |
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| 01:48.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
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| 01:49.28 | Babu | hi i'm new to wowace how long does it take before i get an svn account for my addon? |
| 01:49.48 | Ellipsis | as long as Kaelten keeps slacking :P |
| 01:49.56 | hyperChipmunk | however long it takes for Kaelten to get off his lazy butt and make one |
| 01:50.10 | Babu | ohh alright =p |
| 01:51.37 | Comxx | "In 2.3 Blind will no longer require a reagent." <---- Woot |
| 01:52.11 | durcyn | Comxx: actually, the reagent is changed to rogue tears, but since every rogue has a supply of those to last a lifetime, it was deemed redundant. |
| 01:52.33 | Ellipsis | ^ |
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| 01:53.42 | Comxx | the Shadowstep is nice too |
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| 01:54.37 | Bejitt | what's the svn update spam channel? |
| 01:55.44 | Comxx | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTp9uYnyGLA |
| 01:56.12 | Ellipsis | I think it's #wowace-cia but don't quote me on that |
| 01:56.26 | Comxx | that look fun lol |
| 01:58.43 | chexsum | when you find out the link to the realm youre copying from use that as a starting point |
| 01:58.58 | hyperChipmunk | shhhhh |
| 01:59.03 | hyperChipmunk | don't tell them |
| 01:59.03 | chexsum | :x |
| 01:59.17 | Ellipsis | that's cheating |
| 01:59.31 | Funkeh` | Whats the macro to cast a spell dependant on whether your target is hostile or not? |
| 01:59.46 | hyperChipmunk | [harm] |
| 01:59.48 | chexsum | ive got my priest copied twice - now for the wait |
| 01:59.48 | hyperChipmunk | [help] |
| 01:59.58 | Xinhuan | wtb link |
| 02:00.13 | Funkeh` | cast [target=harm] spell, spell ? |
| 02:00.31 | Godzmack | ; |
| 02:00.56 | Godzmack | and [harm] is enough |
| 02:01.05 | Funkeh` | okay |
| 02:01.40 | hyperChipmunk | /cast [harm] spell |
| 02:02.22 | Ellipsis | lol someone turned in ony head? |
| 02:02.33 | Ellipsis | who does that x.x |
| 02:02.58 | hyperChipmunk | people who 3-man her |
| 02:03.10 | Ellipsis | heh that'd be kinda fun |
| 02:04.11 | *** join/#wowace Lothaer (n=Jamie@CPE-124-182-215-223.sa.bigpond.net.au) |
| 02:04.17 | Lothaer | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 02:04.24 | Lothaer | i hate WoW |
| 02:04.26 | *** join/#wowace todd` (n=todd@69.245.116.254) |
| 02:04.40 | Ellipsis | ack, why are my spellbinder bindings not working? |
| 02:04.53 | Industrial | cus ur dum |
| 02:04.59 | Lothaer | fucking critical error now i have to reset everything |
| 02:05.09 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 02:05.12 | Ellipsis | Industrial </3 |
| 02:05.15 | Lothaer | O BTW |
| 02:05.17 | Lothaer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTp9uYnyGLA |
| 02:05.19 | Lothaer | check it out |
| 02:05.26 | Industrial | and so is purl |
| 02:05.30 | Lothaer | the new enginerring mount |
| 02:05.31 | Industrial | purl: ur dum |
| 02:05.32 | purl | NO U |
| 02:05.33 | Funkeh` | hyperChipmunk: No theres a macro with 2 spells that cast, dependant on hostility, that macro doesn't seem to do that |
| 02:05.37 | Ellipsis | ~satisfy Industrial |
| 02:05.38 | purl | ACTION goes down on Industrial |
| 02:05.40 | Industrial | kekekekek |
| 02:05.40 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 02:05.56 | Lothaer | great |
| 02:06.03 | dodga | oh man |
| 02:06.05 | hyperChipmunk | /cast [harm] harmspell; helpspell |
| 02:06.14 | Lothaer | WoW is seriously damage and must be reverted to a previous version |
| 02:06.16 | Lothaer | WTF!!! |
| 02:06.28 | hyperChipmunk | *whammy sound* |
| 02:06.36 | Bejitt | ~seen dafire |
| 02:06.39 | purl | dafire <n=dafire@irata.reakktor.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 12h 35m 12s ago, saying: 'that hairy ? ;)'. |
| 02:06.48 | Industrial | portal unleashed, 70% |
| 02:06.52 | Industrial | orange box my ass :3 |
| 02:06.58 | Funkeh` | hyperChipmunk: ah, forgot the semi colon |
| 02:07.01 | Ellipsis | y u do dat |
| 02:07.08 | Industrial | cus why pay money? |
| 02:07.10 | aestil | Ellipsis: so, ima go get some black teas. |
| 02:07.15 | Lothaer | any seen the cool UI changes in patch 2.3? |
| 02:07.25 | Codayus | Taint logging? |
| 02:07.25 | Ellipsis | o rly aestil? |
| 02:07.29 | Industrial | hm I haven't actually Lothaer. |
| 02:07.33 | Industrial | got linky? |
| 02:07.43 | Lothaer | i do |
| 02:07.45 | hyperChipmunk | GetCursorPosition /cheeeeeeeeeeeeer |
| 02:07.48 | Industrial | care to share? |
| 02:07.49 | Ellipsis | hm...apparently it's just mouse3 that decided not to work in WoW anymore =[ |
| 02:07.55 | Lothaer | yeah give me a min |
| 02:08.01 | Industrial | 1 |
| 02:08.02 | Industrial | 2 |
| 02:08.05 | Industrial | (just kidding) |
| 02:08.14 | Ellipsis | darn, I wanted to see you get bant |
| 02:08.18 | Industrial | ;) |
| 02:08.22 | Ellipsis | ;) |
| 02:08.27 | Industrial | was that supposed to be an e or an a |
| 02:08.40 | Ellipsis | wouldn't you like to know |
| 02:08.46 | Industrial | :P |
| 02:08.52 | Lothaer | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patch...atchnotes.html |
| 02:08.58 | Industrial | ... |
| 02:09.01 | Ellipsis | ...fail |
| 02:09.05 | Lothaer | woops |
| 02:09.55 | Industrial | my sharing ratio is 1.21 and I haven't even completed it yet |
| 02:09.59 | Industrial | </3 bittorrent |
| 02:10.13 | Industrial | damn leeches everywhere :[ |
| 02:10.18 | Lothaer | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 02:10.35 | Lothaer | heres a cool UI change |
| 02:10.35 | Industrial | kay |
| 02:10.35 | Lothaer | When you inspect another player, you can now see their talent choices as well as their equipment. |
| 02:10.47 | Industrial | but when they walk away it closes! |
| 02:10.55 | Lothaer | increased to 30yards |
| 02:11.00 | DracoDan | res gonna be all sorts of mockery going on |
| 02:11.02 | Industrial | still sucks |
| 02:11.05 | Industrial | why close it at all |
| 02:11.12 | Industrial | its just some info on their items. |
| 02:11.23 | Lothaer | but ive got a mod that lets me check out ANYONES spec horde and alliance |
| 02:11.40 | Industrial | anyone that has that mod too* |
| 02:11.45 | Lothaer | and it has unlimited range |
| 02:12.04 | Industrial | I bet theres like 3 people using it |
| 02:12.05 | Lothaer | want a link? |
| 02:12.09 | Lothaer | lol |
| 02:12.10 | Industrial | :P |
| 02:12.23 | Lothaer | so did u watch that youtube clip? |
| 02:12.35 | Industrial | the roflcopter thingy? yes |
| 02:12.38 | Lothaer | yeah |
| 02:12.38 | Industrial | pwn! |
| 02:12.51 | Lothaer | NIGHT ELF PRIESTS GETTING BUFFED |
| 02:12.55 | Lothaer | woooooooooooooooot |
| 02:13.14 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 02:13.19 | Funkeh` | you failed at life when you rolled one |
| 02:13.20 | Ellipsis | who cares? they're just nelfs |
| 02:13.41 | Lothaer | Elune's Grace (Night Elf) effect changed to reduce chance to be hit by melee and ranged attacks by 20% for 15 seconds. There is now only 1 rank of the spell. |
| 02:13.46 | Lothaer | Starshards (Night Elf) is no longer channeled, costs 0 mana, is now a Magic effect, lasts 15 seconds, causes damage every 3 seconds and has a 30 second cooldown. |
| 02:13.59 | Lothaer | that last 1 equals a free cast damage spell |
| 02:14.00 | rubik | if i know an itemid, how can i force a request to server to get tooltip? |
| 02:14.08 | Lothaer | requires 0 thats ZERO mana |
| 02:14.13 | rubik | (without using an addon... any ace lib commands i can use?) |
| 02:14.15 | Ellipsis | is there a limit to how long Blizz will let you keep an instance open? |
| 02:14.20 | Industrial | 0 is the new ZERO |
| 02:14.28 | Industrial | Lothaer: thats pretty cool tho. |
| 02:14.31 | Lothaer | yup yup |
| 02:15.09 | Ellipsis | rubik: you mean just force cache it or actually let you see the tooltip? |
| 02:17.29 | Industrial | Pets will try to get behind their targets when engaging in melee combat. |
| 02:17.30 | Industrial | wut what? |
| 02:17.54 | Industrial | but mobs auto turn.. |
| 02:17.58 | Industrial | oh only when engaging |
| 02:18.28 | Xinhuan | [10/13 09:55:49] <chexsum> when you find out the link to the realm youre copying from use that as a starting point |
| 02:18.29 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 02:18.32 | Xinhuan | this method doesn't work |
| 02:18.45 | Lothaer | GG blizzard |
| 02:20.22 | Ellipsis | lolwut |
| 02:20.35 | Ellipsis | why do people always heal me when I get bored and start hellfiring myself to death |
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| 02:24.42 | Zicon | ellipsis: Because people dying gets our healers' nerves. >.< |
| 02:26.36 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 02:26.38 | siIentium | rubik: to validate an item ID, use this: GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:"..ID); GameTooltip:Show(); GameTooltip:Hide() |
| 02:26.40 | Ellipsis | not like it's hurting anyone |
| 02:27.46 | siIentium | it means healers have to use lots of mana on a ress and then more mana to rebuff you (at least in a group/raid) |
| 02:29.27 | Ellipsis | um |
| 02:29.30 | Ellipsis | I'm sitting in SW |
| 02:29.32 | Ellipsis | being bored |
| 02:29.33 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 02:30.02 | Ellipsis | I don't screw around like that in raids :P |
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| 02:31.42 | siIentium | hmm... then I guess the healers are just as bored as you are ;) |
| 02:31.51 | Ellipsis | I actually got bandaged too |
| 02:31.53 | Ellipsis | by some noob lock |
| 02:32.59 | Industrial | Many elite creatures and quests in the level 1-60 experience have been changed to accommodate solo play. |
| 02:33.02 | Industrial | ! |
| 02:33.03 | Industrial | is that win or what |
| 02:33.25 | Xinhuan | no that is lose. |
| 02:33.38 | Xinhuan | if blizzard wants to do that, just change the starting lvl to 20 if you already have a lvl 70 |
| 02:33.46 | Industrial | I dont |
| 02:33.49 | Industrial | so its win |
| 02:33.52 | Industrial | :p |
| 02:33.57 | siIentium | it means ppl learn even less how to group |
| 02:33.57 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 02:35.07 | Coffeebooze | I hope Blizzard does nothing to make Bloodscalp any worse |
| 02:35.08 | Industrial | ill only group with my guild. the restare random retards. the few times I have grouped i wa the one that had to say how things needed to be done, and I don't even have raiding experience |
| 02:35.09 | Coffeebooze | Jesus |
| 02:35.26 | Coffeebooze | If you know how to assist your doing better than about 80% of the game |
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| 02:36.28 | Industrial | serious industrial is very serious. |
| 02:36.39 | siIentium | yeah, but how do you expect ppl to learn it if they never ever group while levelling to 70? it only results in lvl 70's not knowing how to play in a team at all |
| 02:36.48 | Industrial | i dont roll with keyboard turners :o |
| 02:36.51 | Xinhuan | they learn it while getting attuned |
| 02:36.59 | Xinhuan | getting attuned to kara involves many 5-many instances |
| 02:37.08 | Xinhuan | 5-man* |
| 02:37.16 | Xinhuan | of course it isn't enough |
| 02:37.27 | Xinhuan | but meh, blizz dumbed down a lot of content |
| 02:37.30 | Xinhuan | it isn't new |
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| 02:37.58 | siIentium | true, but learning it during the low levels might be easier if you actually try it, lvl 70 content is less forgiving |
| 02:38.14 | Industrial | ill pvp mostly anyway when im 70 |
| 02:38.24 | Industrial | !c eu grim batol seryan |
| 02:38.26 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan, Level 41 Troll Hunter (32/0/0). 1472 HP; 1500 Mana; 68 mana regen; 329 AP; 44.000 Melee DPS; 3.73% melee crit; 65.90 Ranged DPS; 5.93% ranged crit; 4.87% dodge;[[ TBR: 492 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrw6xs ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2n8t5r ][ Updated: Fri Oct 12 22:40:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:38.29 | Industrial | ;) |
| 02:38.57 | Ellipsis | when you're 70? |
| 02:39.02 | Ellipsis | you say that like it's going to happen :P |
| 02:39.10 | Ellipsis | also: PET CLASS! |
| 02:39.36 | siIentium | it took me over a year to get my first char to 60 too :) granted, I levelled him as holy paladin, but I never regretted it |
| 02:39.40 | Industrial | yes, but im using the blizz unitframes again! >:P |
| 02:39.43 | Bejitt | hey now, the pet wont bitch when you pull aggro |
| 02:39.50 | Industrial | and it will happen, some day. |
| 02:40.01 | Bejitt | not to mention, the pet knows what aggro is :X |
| 02:40.08 | siIentium | !c eu arathor silentium |
| 02:40.11 | ThraeBot | siIentium: Silentium, Level 70 Human Paladin (50/11/0). 8157 HP; 10743 Mana; 207 mana regen; 94 mp5; 14445 Armour; 74.700 Melee DPS; 4.21% melee crit; 117 spell crit; 200 +spell dmg; 1697 +heal; 4.01% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 1113 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq8mod ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lzctc ][ Updated: Fri Oct 12 22:42:04 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:40.18 | Industrial | I mean I leveled 29-41 last week so. |
| 02:40.24 | Ellipsis | Bejitt, I play a pet class, I'm just picking on Indy because he said he never does :P |
| 02:40.35 | Coffeebooze | http://www.recipezaar.com/212689 That looks fucking awesome |
| 02:40.35 | Industrial | buh! i never said that |
| 02:40.39 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 02:40.44 | Industrial | yarly |
| 02:40.45 | Industrial | show em |
| 02:40.51 | Industrial | I've played hunter msot actually |
| 02:40.55 | Industrial | most* |
| 02:41.14 | Coffeebooze | I am so sorry |
| 02:41.29 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.msg141290#msg141290 |
| 02:41.51 | siIentium | I wonder why ThraeBot lists melee stats before healing stats on a 50/11/0 holy paladin |
| 02:41.56 | Industrial | -_^ |
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| 02:42.30 | Industrial | "pet class :D? That's not gunna happen in a LONG time." |
| 02:42.36 | Industrial | yeah I just started a shaman |
| 02:42.39 | Industrial | wich I leveled til 29 |
| 02:42.41 | Industrial | :P |
| 02:42.53 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 02:42.54 | Industrial | which, watever |
| 02:42.56 | Industrial | whatever |
| 02:42.57 | Industrial | >_> |
| 02:43.10 | Ellipsis | but less than a month is not a "LONG time" |
| 02:43.21 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 02:43.28 | Industrial | yeah but I realised shaman sucks around level 28 |
| 02:43.36 | Industrial | so i went back to hunter |
| 02:43.41 | Industrial | (wich pwns) |
| 02:43.57 | Ellipsis | you still lied |
| 02:43.58 | Ellipsis | and I won |
| 02:43.59 | Ellipsis | so there |
| 02:44.06 | Industrial | i didnt lie |
| 02:44.07 | Starinnia | hunters do pwn, thats why everyone else calls 'em huntards... they're jealous |
| 02:44.42 | Industrial | Starinnia: no thats a sub-group of the hunter. the ones that ran out of ammo at level 2 so they meelee'ed to 70 |
| 02:44.44 | Ellipsis | Industrial, tell us the truth now, how do you level with that UI? :P |
| 02:45.17 | Industrial | o it changed a bit |
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| 02:46.07 | Starinnia | I think my UI would make people cry, so many thinks randomly placed |
| 02:46.41 | Ellipsis | my UI makes people cry just because it's ugly |
| 02:46.53 | Industrial | Ellipsis: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.msg145205#msg145205 |
| 02:46.57 | Ellipsis | and their brains can't comprehend the combination of minimalist and information whore that goes into it |
| 02:47.14 | Industrial | i changed it again today, its a bit uglier. |
| 02:47.23 | Starinnia | that seems like a mutual exclusive combo on the surface |
| 02:47.26 | Ellipsis | Industrial, you fail @ memory :P |
| 02:47.36 | Industrial | no I win at it :D |
| 02:47.43 | Industrial | its like 7mb ;p |
| 02:47.47 | Ellipsis | also: WTB screenshot with baggins open 4dalulz |
| 02:48.04 | Industrial | sec |
| 02:52.29 | Industrial | me screen is all messed up now :< |
| 02:52.44 | Industrial | like I dont wanna show it messed up |
| 02:52.57 | Industrial | but http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/6985/wowscrnshot101307045147kz8.jpg |
| 02:53.00 | Industrial | Ellipsis: ^ |
| 02:53.48 | Ellipsis | OMG U HAS STUF ON UR SCREEN U SUK @ UI |
| 02:54.13 | Industrial | yeah I was thinking of making something that has like a tab |
| 02:54.20 | xyu | get more gold! |
| 02:54.30 | Ellipsis | Industrial: two things bother me about that screenshot. |
| 02:54.36 | Industrial | xyu: thats just my char. |
| 02:54.45 | Ellipsis | one is the keyring which I'm hoping you opened just for show and is not actually set as open with all in baggins |
| 02:54.54 | Industrial | and it manages e.g. my actionbar, and i can pull it in/out of the scrrn on the tab. like a toggle. |
| 02:54.57 | Ellipsis | and the other is the voice chat minimap icon :x |
| 02:55.18 | Industrial | Ellipsis: I actually got a lua error before I took the shot so im removing it as we speak |
| 02:55.26 | Industrial | and yes I have the keyring opened with everything |
| 02:55.26 | Industrial | :P |
| 02:55.34 | Ellipsis | lawl |
| 02:55.40 | kadrahil | whyyy\ |
| 02:55.44 | kadrahil | -\ |
| 02:56.17 | Ellipsis | tbh, I'd set both the keyring and ammo not to open with all |
| 02:56.32 | Ellipsis | (assuming you have some decent way of keeping track of ammo otherwise) |
| 02:56.48 | kadrahil | use a button for drinking, feeding your pet, and bandages |
| 02:56.59 | xyu | They "exclude from catagory" option in Baggins is buggy. |
| 02:57.00 | xyu | imo. |
| 02:57.02 | kadrahil | i made a feed pet macro that does /cast Feed Pet then /use Whatever Food |
| 02:57.12 | kadrahil | bind that to a keybinding... and bind bandages to B |
| 02:57.41 | hyperChipmunk | kadrahil: i do you one better! |
| 02:57.52 | kadrahil | hyperChipmunk: orly? |
| 02:58.07 | hyperChipmunk | /cast [modifier:shift] Everlasting Underspore Frond |
| 02:58.10 | Industrial | Ellipsis: no I dont, but I know howmuch I carry pretty much |
| 02:58.12 | hyperChipmunk | /cast [pet, nocombat, nomodifier:shift] Feed Pet |
| 02:58.18 | hyperChipmunk | /use [pet, nomodifier:shift] Underspore Pod |
| 02:58.29 | kadrahil | O_O |
| 02:58.42 | hyperChipmunk | my feed pet key summons the food, too >8D |
| 02:59.02 | kadrahil | i just use vendor bought smoked talbuk venion |
| 02:59.02 | hyperChipmunk | me wins. |
| 02:59.04 | kadrahil | venison |
| 02:59.12 | hyperChipmunk | barbaric |
| 02:59.17 | kadrahil | until my gf sent me 20 stacks of fish |
| 02:59.20 | kadrahil | that she cooked |
| 02:59.45 | hyperChipmunk | my pet is actually civilized |
| 02:59.59 | kadrahil | mine is too! |
| 03:00.03 | hyperChipmunk | he eats only the finest cheeses, fruits, and truffles |
| 03:00.07 | kadrahil | haha |
| 03:00.14 | kadrahil | mine eats gnomes |
| 03:00.17 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: eats with knife and fork with a napkin round the chin? |
| 03:00.28 | hyperChipmunk | he doesn't exactly have a chin... |
| 03:00.45 | Ellipsis | my pet eats souls |
| 03:01.07 | xyu | Does anyone know how i would make a "BoE" catagory in baggins under the Equipment, SO that I know which armor is BoE and which is SB? |
| 03:01.11 | Wobin | unfortuantely you can't get souls by the stack from vendors |
| 03:01.18 | xyu | i've tried everything i thought would do it. |
| 03:01.21 | xyu | but hte catagory just doesn't show up |
| 03:02.04 | Ellipsis | um |
| 03:02.09 | Ellipsis | did you try the "bind type" rule? |
| 03:03.32 | Borked|Raider | I have made a image in photoshop and saved as tga but when i use it ingame the transparent parts are white? |
| 03:03.41 | xyu | I think so, let me try. |
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| 03:05.24 | Ellipsis | Borked|Raider: did you save it with transparency? |
| 03:05.30 | Keias | Anyone here use CML? |
| 03:05.58 | Borked|Raider | Ellipsis, i just figured out how to do it :) but hmm the fade from the image to the trasparentcy aint looking that good :D |
| 03:06.54 | xyu | Hmm....would i use the "AND" operator? |
| 03:07.09 | Ellipsis | probably |
| 03:07.10 | Nargiddley | what are you trying to get to show ? |
| 03:07.26 | xyu | i want to show Unbound armor in a new equipment catagory |
| 03:07.31 | xyu | and weapons |
| 03:07.45 | xyu | catagory called "BoE" |
| 03:07.48 | xyu | so i can easily sell things |
| 03:08.14 | Nargiddley | itemtype armor OR itemtype weapon AND bind type BoE |
| 03:10.19 | xyu | do i need to /rl? |
| 03:10.28 | Nargiddley | shouldnt |
| 03:10.52 | Ellipsis | argh |
| 03:10.58 | Ellipsis | mah primal mooncloths be disappearin again |
| 03:11.05 | xyu | hmm, nothing showed up :( |
| 03:12.43 | xyu | This is exactly what i did: Right click bagginsfu, go to Edit bags/categories. Clicked on Categoies. Under Name: i typed BoE and hit Create. Highlighted the BoE catagory, added the rules: ItemType-Armor* OR ItemTYpe -weapon AND Binds when Equiped. closed config. |
| 03:12.46 | xyu | and nothing showed ^^ |
| 03:12.50 | xyu | i did a /rl just in case >< |
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| 03:12.53 | xyu | is there a step i'm missing? |
| 03:13.01 | Ellipsis | xyu: did you add that category to a bag? |
| 03:13.01 | Nargiddley | adding it to a section of a bag ? |
| 03:13.06 | xyu | oh |
| 03:13.09 | xyu | perhaps :) |
| 03:14.03 | xyu | How do i add to bags? hehe |
| 03:14.25 | Ellipsis | see the other half of that config window where it says "Bags"? |
| 03:14.30 | xyu | yep! |
| 03:14.37 | Ellipsis | go and create a new bag, or select one that's already in the list |
| 03:14.48 | Ellipsis | then add or select a section |
| 03:14.52 | xyu | i want it to go in the Equipment bag |
| 03:15.09 | xyu | So i go to "Copy From > " |
| 03:15.11 | xyu | ? |
| 03:15.16 | Ellipsis | no |
| 03:15.24 | Ellipsis | just where it lists the sections at the bottom |
| 03:15.34 | Ellipsis | click "Edit" on an existing one or create a new one and click "edit" |
| 03:15.51 | Ellipsis | then under "Categories" click "Add Category" |
| 03:15.57 | Ellipsis | and add your BoE category |
| 03:16.12 | xyu | that worked, now i finally understand. |
| 03:16.19 | xyu | i just didn't add it to bags, thanks :) |
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| 03:16.35 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
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| 03:19.41 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51823 10AutoBar/ (19 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 03:19.41 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 03:19.41 | CIA-12 | -- 2.02.03.6 beta |
| 03:19.41 | CIA-12 | -- Make Custom button categories show up again |
| 03:19.41 | CIA-12 | -- Buttons are reorderable now. May cause error & needs reload. |
| 03:19.42 | CIA-12 | -- Changed config title to AutoBar + version + (build number) |
| 03:19.44 | CIA-12 | -- Cut back on global variables created |
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| 03:23.20 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51824 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: tweaks |
| 03:23.29 | xyu | http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1792/wow2007101223205296op2.jpg |
| 03:23.30 | xyu | there's my baggis |
| 03:23.32 | xyu | i have too much junk |
| 03:23.35 | xyu | baggins |
| 03:24.09 | kebinusan | What are some good questy mods for leveling alts, like tracking where questgivers are, etc |
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| 03:24.36 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51825 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/: .trunk: remove |
| 03:25.23 | Ellipsis | I find nQuestLog + Cart_QuestObjectives to pretty much cover everything |
| 03:25.27 | xyu | Lightheaded + cartographer |
| 03:25.28 | xyu | is a must imo |
| 03:25.30 | Ellipsis | LightHeaded is a nice addition |
| 03:26.05 | kebinusan | cool ty |
| 03:26.23 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 03:26.29 | Industrial | Ellipsis: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/9328/wowscrnshot101307052529ti6.jpg |
| 03:26.35 | Ellipsis | opening the profession frame for 5 minutes tripled my UI memory usage :x |
| 03:26.37 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 03:26.39 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.42 | Industrial | /L\ |
| 03:27.15 | Ellipsis | betar |
| 03:27.41 | Industrial | o_O |
| 03:27.50 | Industrial | proceed... |
| 03:27.59 | Ellipsis | what's the 88218 from? |
| 03:28.09 | Industrial | thats the topleft button, xp left macro :P |
| 03:28.16 | Ellipsis | heh, neat |
| 03:28.39 | Ellipsis | so to see your buffs you have to target yourself? |
| 03:28.47 | Industrial | i have 1-6 on the bottom buttons and shift, ctrl, alt, shift-ctrl etc on the vertical ones :P |
| 03:28.57 | kebinusan | is lightheaded on the svn somewhere? |
| 03:28.58 | Industrial | Ellipsis: thats a problem now yes |
| 03:29.02 | Industrial | kebinusan: wowinterface. |
| 03:29.25 | Industrial | I should prolly unhide the blizz buffs |
| 03:29.29 | Ellipsis | WTB bigar hands =[ |
| 03:29.42 | Industrial | eh? :D |
| 03:29.43 | kebinusan | thanks |
| 03:29.52 | Industrial | my caps lock is ctrl |
| 03:29.56 | Ellipsis | weirdo |
| 03:29.57 | Industrial | :-) |
| 03:30.02 | Industrial | who needs capslock |
| 03:30.05 | Industrial | like ever |
| 03:30.08 | Ellipsis | I use capslock for push to talk |
| 03:30.16 | Industrial | good point |
| 03:30.16 | Xinhuan | Xinhuan from Blackrock (PvP) to Test Server (US PVP) (PvP) |
| 03:30.17 | Xinhuan | GOGO |
| 03:30.19 | Industrial | my control is capslock |
| 03:30.20 | Xinhuan | PTR copy is up |
| 03:30.26 | Industrial | :P |
| 03:30.27 | Xinhuan | for now |
| 03:30.27 | Ellipsis | grats Xinhuan |
| 03:30.35 | Xinhuan | well queue is still 4 dats |
| 03:30.36 | Xinhuan | days |
| 03:30.40 | Xinhuan | but at least in queue now |
| 03:30.57 | Ellipsis | hey cool, I've never had *that* graphical glitch before! |
| 03:33.12 | Ellipsis | an area in the top left corner of my screen about 1000x80px is flickering in alternating lines of random colors but only when it's terrain that's rendered there (e.g. trees will be "on top" of the lines) |
| 03:33.41 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.58 | Ellipsis | I have that hotkeyed |
| 03:34.01 | Industrial | I get textures to expand/stretch out over my damn screen all the time |
| 03:34.09 | Ellipsis | I just like to play with the glitches to understand them |
| 03:34.15 | Industrial | like, in the 3d world :< |
| 03:34.27 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 03:34.35 | Ellipsis | I usually get the one where you can see through walls on every other frame |
| 03:34.38 | Industrial | it sucks, and 2.0.1 brought it. |
| 03:34.47 | Ellipsis | or the entire screen just freezes due to that windows bug |
| 03:35.00 | Ellipsis | this one I've never seen before though o.O |
| 03:35.06 | Industrial | and when you alt tab too fast it crashes too |
| 03:35.19 | Ellipsis | for me it's when I alt-tab too slowly |
| 03:35.21 | Industrial | i ahte that, cause I alt tab every 10 secs |
| 03:35.26 | Ellipsis | but I guess that's just because my computer is slow :P |
| 03:35.38 | Industrial | you have to be kidding me |
| 03:36.00 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 03:36.27 | Industrial | http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/1310/44245570is0.png |
| 03:36.56 | Ellipsis | bwahaha |
| 03:37.01 | Industrial | I alt tab into the game and it crashes. |
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| 03:37.09 | kebinusan | I just switch desktops control-alt arrowkey ! |
| 03:37.27 | Industrial | i do it with windowskey-1234 |
| 03:37.47 | Industrial | 4 desktops is win |
| 03:37.47 | Ellipsis | mine stops rendering properly if an alt-tab takes more than about 10secs (due to paging) |
| 03:37.54 | Ellipsis | MSVDM? |
| 03:38.00 | Industrial | no, Multidesk2001 |
| 03:38.06 | Ellipsis | aww |
| 03:38.14 | Industrial | you can move windows across desktops with that, and its really tiny |
| 03:38.22 | Ellipsis | yeah I think my WoW would probably refuse to ever start again if I ever tried to switch desktops while playing |
| 03:38.37 | Ellipsis | because that usually takes at least 30 secs with just firefox running |
| 03:38.42 | Industrial | eep :X |
| 03:38.54 | theoddone33 | play portal if you get the chance |
| 03:38.56 | Industrial | I only have that with source games |
| 03:39.02 | Industrial | yeah :< |
| 03:39.05 | Ellipsis | yeah, source makes me cry |
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| 03:39.13 | theoddone33 | it takes ~3 hours to beat and is innovative and hilarious |
| 03:39.13 | Ellipsis | I don't know why it decided that I didn't need video anymore |
| 03:39.20 | Ellipsis | but I want to set it straight with a very sharp object |
| 03:39.26 | Industrial | theoddone33: im downloading it right now |
| 03:39.40 | Industrial | 98.5% actually :o |
| 03:39.41 | Ellipsis | I want Portal =[ |
| 03:39.51 | Ellipsis | though I heard it was too short.... |
| 03:39.54 | Industrial | http://torrentz.com/22e2b4c5f09c2a427642f1301d69f22570997c67 |
| 03:39.56 | Industrial | 1-2-go |
| 03:39.59 | theoddone33 | it's very short |
| 03:40.08 | theoddone33 | I was really pleased with the experience, though |
| 03:40.12 | Ellipsis | wat Industrial y u do dat |
| 03:40.27 | Industrial | do what |
| 03:40.37 | Ellipsis | giev links I can't use :P |
| 03:40.42 | Industrial | lol |
| 03:40.54 | Industrial | http://utorrent.com |
| 03:40.56 | Industrial | now you can |
| 03:40.57 | Ellipsis | noes |
| 03:40.58 | Ellipsis | nevar |
| 03:41.08 | Industrial | why not |
| 03:41.24 | Ellipsis | I refuse to use bittorrent |
| 03:41.27 | Industrial | why |
| 03:41.37 | Ellipsis | because I don't like it and I don't need to download stuff anyway |
| 03:42.04 | Industrial | I dont like it either, but it has everything |
| 03:42.12 | Ellipsis | I don't do illegal downloading :P |
| 03:42.15 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51826 10AutoBar/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 03:42.15 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 03:42.15 | CIA-12 | - More stupid AceConsole crap because I cant check in a needed update for it |
| 03:42.26 | Industrial | i've never bought software, and never will |
| 03:42.30 | Industrial | cept some games |
| 03:42.35 | Industrial | steam/wow |
| 03:42.47 | Ellipsis | I've only bought WoW and WC3 |
| 03:42.58 | Ellipsis | everything else I've gotten free (legally) |
| 03:43.09 | Industrial | buh :P |
| 03:43.18 | Ellipsis | that includes all software, not just games :P |
| 03:44.46 | Industrial | Ellipsis: but msot anime is legal! you can download that with bittorrent :3 |
| 03:45.00 | Ellipsis | yes but I don't watch anime :P |
| 03:45.10 | Industrial | and um legaltorrents.com |
| 03:45.35 | Industrial | wah timeout |
| 03:45.47 | Ellipsis | ~fail Industrial |
| 03:45.48 | purl | Industrial: Fail. |
| 03:46.07 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/routes.jpg |
| 03:46.12 | Xinhuan | Battle Map support added! |
| 03:46.52 | Industrial | Xinhuan: whats that |
| 03:47.07 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_Routes |
| 03:47.12 | Xinhuan | you can find it on the branches |
| 03:47.15 | Ellipsis | "WTS [Inappropriate Touch] Limited Quantity! (Gender restrictions may apply.)" |
| 03:47.27 | Industrial | Xinhuan: what does it route |
| 03:47.39 | Xinhuan | it routes mining/herb nodes that you specify |
| 03:47.46 | Xinhuan | and generates a near optimal TSP path for it |
| 03:47.52 | Industrial | ah cool |
| 03:48.00 | Xinhuan | its almost at release status |
| 03:48.23 | Xinhuan | but there's a few chinks to work out still :) |
| 03:48.26 | Industrial | does it set waypoints? :P |
| 03:48.31 | Industrial | that'd own :> |
| 03:48.37 | Xinhuan | not at the moment |
| 03:48.43 | Xinhuan | but it draws the route on the actual minimap |
| 03:48.47 | Xinhuan | so you don't really need waypoints |
| 03:48.54 | Industrial | nice |
| 03:49.00 | Xinhuan | you just follow the line on the minimap |
| 03:49.08 | Ellipsis | I'm glad I'm not an herb/miner, otherwise I'd have to install another freaking addon :P |
| 03:49.13 | Industrial | thats very valuable for leveling guides :o |
| 03:49.23 | Xinhuan | not true |
| 03:49.36 | Xinhuan | this addon is really only applicable in Outlands where you can use a flying mount |
| 03:49.41 | Xinhuan | and is unimpeded by terrain |
| 03:49.46 | Industrial | meh, direct points i guess |
| 03:49.50 | Xinhuan | because i'm using straigtline distances |
| 03:50.05 | Xinhuan | until i do some ground mapping across land terrain, it won't be very useful on Azeroth zones |
| 03:50.08 | Ellipsis | it could be useful for like...leveling druids 68-70? |
| 03:50.09 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 03:50.27 | Industrial | lol :p |
| 03:50.29 | Xinhuan | and assign like... weights to every square yard in azeroth about whether its travellable or not ;p |
| 03:50.35 | Industrial | okay 6am nn tiemz |
| 03:50.45 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, I think it'd be a bit more complicated than that |
| 03:50.50 | Ellipsis | night Industrial, dream of me <3 |
| 03:50.50 | Xinhuan | of course |
| 03:50.55 | Xinhuan | i'll have to perform A* |
| 03:50.57 | Industrial | aestil: always! |
| 03:51.01 | Xinhuan | between every node to every other node |
| 03:51.03 | Ellipsis | .... |
| 03:51.03 | Xinhuan | on top of that |
| 03:51.03 | Industrial | er, Ellipsis |
| 03:51.09 | CIA-12 | 03aldmehr * r51827 10ReadySpells/ (Core.lua Readme.txt ReadySpells.toc): ReadySpells: v0.79 update stack text and save position bug fix with recent patch. |
| 03:51.10 | Industrial | Ellipsis: NO U |
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| 03:51.15 | Industrial | <3 |
| 03:51.31 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: but you can't just do weighted tiles |
| 03:51.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: if you manage to map out every square pixel of azeroth terrain, i will be vastly impressed |
| 03:51.40 | Ellipsis | because that doesn't account for altitude changes tbvh |
| 03:51.46 | Xinhuan | weighted tiles is just an approximation |
| 03:51.56 | Xinhuan | you can have tiles and have 8 directions and weights for the 8 directions |
| 03:51.59 | Xinhuan | lol complicated? |
| 03:52.10 | Ellipsis | but ridiculous mountains and crap are everywhere in outlands |
| 03:52.10 | Xinhuan | it'll be a massive graph |
| 03:52.35 | Xinhuan | and mapping out azeroth every squard yard isn't very feasible |
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| 03:52.46 | Ellipsis | so unless you incorporate z-coords into your calculations you're gonna be screwed :P |
| 03:52.50 | Industrial | or you can decompile the mpq map data and.. no lets not do that :P |
| 03:53.05 | Xinhuan | Yatlas.. remember that addon? |
| 03:53.09 | Industrial | yeah |
| 03:53.14 | Xinhuan | it is able to show minimap |
| 03:53.16 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 03:53.19 | Ellipsis | Industrial: bad boy, it's past your bedtime :P |
| 03:53.19 | Xinhuan | so its an idea |
| 03:53.50 | Industrial | Ellipsis: :( |
| 03:54.11 | Xinhuan | but the complexity of the issue would just triple |
| 03:54.36 | Ellipsis | come on now Indy, I'll tuck you in |
| 03:54.46 | Mikk | shortest path in a 3d space.... |
| 03:54.47 | Mikk | yum |
| 03:54.49 | Xinhuan | so i'm limiting it to outlands for now, although you can route azeroth maps, it won't be all that useful in many zones |
| 03:55.07 | Xinhuan | some zones are alright.. like barrens |
| 03:55.11 | Xinhuan | and ungoro |
| 03:55.20 | Zhinjio | speaking of bed. Time for me to head there. G"night all. |
| 03:55.26 | Ellipsis | ungoro's tricky around the edges though |
| 03:55.35 | Ellipsis | straight line from A to B rarely takes you from A to B |
| 03:55.48 | Xinhuan | the issue is carto_notes doesn't store data about Z-axis, me/grum can only go by data from carto_notes |
| 03:55.48 | dreamss | xin can i beta test ur addon =) |
| 03:55.58 | Xinhuan | you can get it from the SVN branches |
| 03:56.00 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: that's why you need to become pro dataminers |
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| 04:00.12 | CIA-12 | 03evenue * r51828 10TradeskillInfo/ (TradeskillInfo.lua embeds.xml): |
| 04:00.12 | CIA-12 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 04:00.12 | CIA-12 | -Cleaned up Fubar plugin, drycoded |
| 04:00.12 | CIA-12 | -Fixed minor error in embeds |
| 04:01.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: i'm not even sure z-axis info would be available from the game |
| 04:01.15 | Xinhuan | it isn't |
| 04:01.30 | Xinhuan | but if it was available, i would be happy to multiply that in |
| 04:01.41 | Xinhuan | but its not a big deal |
| 04:01.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm sure you WOULD. |
| 04:01.48 | Ellipsis | it's in the map data though |
| 04:02.03 | Ellipsis | if you ignore the fact that a lot of nodes float in midair |
| 04:02.16 | Ellipsis | because they're usually close enough |
| 04:04.32 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 04:04.42 | Ellipsis | I need a watch that automatically syncs with my computer |
| 04:04.42 | Ellipsis | =[ |
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| 04:05.00 | Kreiger | What the FUCK happened to autobar? |
| 04:05.14 | Ellipsis | it got updated? |
| 04:05.34 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51829 10Skillet/ (Skillet.lua ThirdPartyHooks.lua UI/MainFrame.lua): |
| 04:05.34 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 04:05.34 | CIA-12 | - Add hookable method Skillet:GetMinSkillButtonWidth to allow |
| 04:05.34 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.34 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.39 | Kreiger | it got broken. the popup doesn't work anymore. |
| 04:05.47 | Kreiger | It only pops "Up" now. |
| 04:05.49 | Ellipsis | meh, Toadkiller's working on it |
| 04:06.20 | Kreiger | it was fine before... i could go back a version and be fine. May i ask why he chose to upload a broken version? |
| 04:06.39 | Ellipsis | if you want to go back a version, I suggest you do so instead of complaining about beta software |
| 04:07.10 | Kreiger | I wasn't aware that the wowaceupdater version was considering beta. |
| 04:07.17 | Kreiger | considered* |
| 04:07.26 | Ellipsis | everything on the svn is beta, that's why it's a svn and not a release site |
| 04:07.40 | Kreiger | Is there a way to only pull off released stuff? |
| 04:07.40 | durcyn | he should be coding this in branches, but he didn't, so grab the zip from http://code.google.com/p/autobar/ |
| 04:07.53 | durcyn | then put an empty .svn directory in it, and WAU will skip it. |
| 04:07.55 | Ellipsis | Kreiger: use a release site like curse, wowinterface, etc... |
| 04:08.23 | durcyn | you'll need to use a command prompt to create the .svn directory, though, as windows exploder tries to be too smart for its own good. |
| 04:08.25 | Kreiger | Ellipsis, i'd rather use vanilla. ha da friend get logged from curse. |
| 04:08.33 | durcyn | i repeat, http://code.google.com/p/autobar/ |
| 04:08.38 | Ellipsis | well then do that |
| 04:08.54 | Kreiger | nty. i wasn't aware wowaceupdater was considered beta. |
| 04:09.09 | Kreiger | I hereby withdraw my bitching and /wear the dunce cap. |
| 04:09.12 | Tinyboom | wow, i like my mage on ptr:D though I dread the repair costs I'm gonna get when 2.3 goes live:p |
| 04:09.12 | durcyn | Kreiger: files from WAU are generated directly from source control |
| 04:09.21 | Ellipsis | if you want the latest stable version of autobar, durcyn has given you the link |
| 04:09.35 | Ellipsis | other revisions are available from files.wowace.com/AutoBar/ |
| 04:09.39 | Kreiger | Thank ye, durcyn i <3 you. |
| 04:09.50 | durcyn | er, okay. |
| 04:10.22 | Ellipsis | oh speaking of repair costs in 2.3 |
| 04:10.33 | Ellipsis | anyone able to verify that the new vendor discounts affect repair costs as well? |
| 04:11.13 | durcyn | holy shit, are people actually this stupid? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366698533&sid=1 |
| 04:11.29 | art3mis | anyone kow off hand what the line is to perm hide the blizz unit frames? |
| 04:11.33 | art3mis | know rather |
| 04:11.49 | Ellipsis | ...rofl durcyn, wow |
| 04:13.03 | durcyn | art3mis: there's not just one line. i recommend cribbing from PitBull_HideBlizzard |
| 04:13.20 | Ellipsis | and that drood is wearing full feral gear plus one healing trinket |
| 04:13.21 | Ellipsis | wtf? |
| 04:13.28 | art3mis | If you think this is stupid, you've never tried to farm as a healer class with no +damage. |
| 04:13.30 | art3mis | wtf? |
| 04:13.35 | art3mis | who would be THAT retarded? |
| 04:14.05 | art3mis | dur danke, appearantly it's changed since ghud was made and the "hide blizz" tick only hides them temp but reshows on target |
| 04:14.34 | durcyn | art3mis: it boils down to, ahem, "i'm too fucking important to be seen wearing quest blues, make it so i don't have to swap gear ever please" |
| 04:14.39 | Wobin | hehe |
| 04:14.43 | Wobin | why bother trying to farm? |
| 04:14.54 | Wobin | I shall HEAL YOU TO DEATH! |
| 04:14.56 | art3mis | wobin: maybe he knows of mobs that die from healing the, |
| 04:14.58 | art3mis | them |
| 04:15.09 | art3mis | like maybe i dunno some special super undead |
| 04:15.14 | Arrowmaster | well since a paladin in my guild transfered to PTR and now has about the same +dmg in healing gear as his 70 warlock alt, i think they might have made it a little too high, but the idea is great |
| 04:15.23 | Ellipsis | well maybe if this were a completely different game sure |
| 04:15.35 | Wobin | undead should take damage from healing spells =P |
| 04:15.41 | Ellipsis | OP |
| 04:15.42 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 04:15.45 | Wobin | It would make playing as an undead... more challenging! |
| 04:15.47 | art3mis | pretty much any custom UF like ag perl etc should have that in there though as well right? |
| 04:15.51 | art3mis | haha yeah |
| 04:16.03 | art3mis | "fuck what happened there" "i accidently ghealed myself |
| 04:16.07 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: the only complaint that's worth a wet slap is maaaaybe bag space |
| 04:16.53 | Arrowmaster | well when they do shit like add a fight like leo to the game, it kinda makes this change required |
| 04:17.30 | durcyn | we did leo just fine without it, but godamn you should hear paladins complain about not having 2000 healing while they're killing level 68 mobs. |
| 04:17.39 | durcyn | b.f.d. |
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| 04:18.26 | CIA-12 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 04:18.26 | CIA-12 | -FuBar Plugin no longer rides the shortbus - I do, for uploading silly mistakes |
| 04:18.49 | durcyn | or maybe i'm just bitter. |
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| 04:21.02 | jea^flexx | eyyyy |
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| 04:21.11 | jea^flexx | anybody here good with sct? :s |
| 04:22.02 | jea^flexx | ? =\ |
| 04:23.34 | jea^flexx | Oh well -- If anybody knows how to disable the icons on dmg/healing on sct, please PM me. =] |
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| 04:23.49 | Ellipsis | SCT does icons now? |
| 04:24.16 | jea^flexx | Yes, next to the dmg/healing done to you. |
| 04:24.20 | jea^flexx | I don't like it. =\ |
| 04:24.22 | Comxx | yea after Ckk did it |
| 04:24.51 | Ellipsis | heh |
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| 04:31.37 | aestil | Industrial: you're dreaming of me now? |
| 04:31.42 | Ellipsis | lulz |
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| 04:33.42 | aestil | i am rather dreamy. |
| 04:33.50 | Ellipsis | indeed |
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| 04:59.03 | CIA-12 | 03daviesh * r51831 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (loottables.cn.lua loottables.tw.lua): |
| 04:59.03 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 04:59.03 | CIA-12 | - Chinese fix |
| 05:01.28 | hyperChipmunk | woohoo |
| 05:01.28 | hyperChipmunk | he fixed the Chinese |
| 05:01.28 | Ellipsis | all of them? |
| 05:01.28 | art3mis | wow that must have taken a long time |
| 05:01.28 | Ellipsis | srsly |
| 05:01.28 | art3mis | unless it was automated |
| 05:01.39 | art3mis | and they were on a conveyer belt and you didnt care about them after the snip |
| 05:01.59 | Ellipsis | even so |
| 05:02.04 | Ellipsis | it'd have to be a really fast conveyor belt |
| 05:02.10 | Ellipsis | or maybe multiple ones working in parallel |
| 05:03.23 | Ellipsis | afk, shower |
| 05:03.34 | art3mis | bout time ;) |
| 05:03.42 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myuf.jpg |
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| 05:05.24 | Lothaer | 2.3 PTR is up |
| 05:06.11 | art3mis | thats what she said |
| 05:06.19 | Lothaer | who? |
| 05:06.41 | Lothaer | i only just joined so i didnt see lol |
| 05:06.44 | Kain___ | you guys ever get knockback from the Vash'ir honor guards? first time we have had that happent his week |
| 05:06.56 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51832 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Optimized DrawWorldmapLines() and added support for the Blizzard Battle Map. |
| 05:06.57 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/ |
| 05:07.24 | art3mis | lothaer: it's just a random comment ;P |
| 05:07.30 | Lothaer | kk lol |
| 05:07.46 | Lothaer | i think imma start to download the PTR when i goto work |
| 05:08.16 | Lothaer | although the character transfer is full so i have to wait and the estimated wait time to copy a character is 4 days lol |
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| 05:15.11 | Mecdemort | does DogTag auto update the registered font strings or do you have to call one of it's update functions? |
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| 05:25.40 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51833 10BigWigs/Hyjal/BigWigs_Hyjal.toc: BigWigs: Hyjal: fix credits |
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| 05:30.38 | Arcaia | Dropped items that were rings/trinkets/one handed weapons that were previously unique are now unique-equipped. That means that you can have more than one of those items, but you can only have a single one of them equipped. |
| 05:30.42 | Arcaia | wt-fail. |
| 05:32.23 | durcyn | all it ever accomplished was make disenchanting the crap annoying |
| 05:33.21 | Arcaia | .. |
| 05:33.27 | Arcaia | one-handed weapons >.> |
| 05:33.59 | durcyn | yeah, and? |
| 05:34.16 | Arcaia | do you happen to play a rogue/warrior/enh.shaman? |
| 05:34.39 | Nargiddley | it doesnt change what you can equip at all |
| 05:34.48 | durcyn | no. but there's no functional change. if it was unique before, you still can't equip two. |
| 05:35.47 | Arcaia | but things that weren't unique |
| 05:35.53 | Nargiddley | don't change |
| 05:35.55 | Arcaia | oh |
| 05:35.55 | durcyn | still aren't unique. |
| 05:36.01 | Arcaia | nice then ;) |
| 05:38.22 | Lukian | it's so you can disenchant the 2nd one if you already have one :p |
| 05:38.40 | Lukian | item in example: runesong dagger |
| 05:42.35 | jea^flexx | heyheyhey... does anybody know how to disable the icons on sct? :s |
| 05:46.29 | jea^flexx | found it, nvm. :s |
| 05:49.28 | kadrahil | what's a site people upload videos to? |
| 05:49.32 | kadrahil | not like youtube |
| 05:49.36 | kadrahil | but like tinypic.com |
| 05:49.52 | kadrahil | oh tinypic lets you upload videos |
| 05:51.07 | neenee | =] |
| 05:52.08 | kadrahil | who wrote the combatfader module for pitbull? |
| 05:52.14 | kadrahil | http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2myc8rl&s=2 |
| 05:52.35 | kadrahil | it fades in and out intermittently, and does the same thing with my pet on my hunter |
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| 05:55.22 | Lothaer | ~seen tristan |
| 05:55.28 | purl | tristan <i=tristan@ppp120-43.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 443d 3h 6m 22s ago, saying: 'it's tomcat tomcat-5.5.17-r1 running under gentoo 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 with sun jvm 1.5.0_07-b03'. |
| 05:55.52 | Lothaer | any1 here us RaidSpy? |
| 05:55.55 | Lothaer | use* |
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| 05:58.34 | Lothaer | hello? |
| 05:59.16 | Kerafyrm | hi |
| 05:59.34 | Lothaer | using WAU wts better with or bithout externals? |
| 05:59.38 | Lothaer | without* |
| 06:00.08 | Lukian | addons will load faster 'without' |
| 06:00.25 | Lukian | but you'll have a bunch of folders in your addons directory. |
| 06:00.30 | Lothaer | thats ok lol |
| 06:01.19 | hyperChipmunk | hoho char copy success |
| 06:01.30 | Lothaer | grats mate |
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| 06:16.02 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r51834 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 06:16.02 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 06:16.02 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 06:25.07 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51835 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 06:25.07 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 06:25.07 | CIA-12 | - More ZA loot |
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| 06:40.28 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51836 10AtlasLoot/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:40.28 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:40.28 | CIA-12 | - Arena Season 3 |
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| 06:42.02 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51837 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 06:42.02 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 06:42.02 | CIA-12 | - Arena Season 3 |
| 06:43.23 | Killmore | me |
| 06:43.47 | Gngsk | any quick fix to aceevent errors on ptr? |
| 06:43.48 | Killmore | hyperChipmunk: when did you copy ? |
| 06:45.11 | hyperChipmunk | whenever the timestamp of my message was =x |
| 06:45.20 | hyperChipmunk | looks like 44m ago |
| 06:45.37 | Corgan | the char hasn't gone through yet tho amirite? |
| 06:45.44 | hyperChipmunk | probably not |
| 06:46.11 | Corgan | interesting |
| 06:46.13 | Killmore | hyperChipmunk: yes I know :P |
| 06:46.24 | Corgan | ElkBuffBars is showing a buff for the new tracking thing |
| 06:46.25 | hyperChipmunk | so why'd you ask? O_o |
| 06:46.27 | Corgan | "Tracking..." |
| 06:46.57 | Killmore | hyperChipmunk: when did you copy your character to be copied 45min ago ? |
| 06:47.07 | hyperChipmunk | oh, no |
| 06:47.13 | hyperChipmunk | that's when i got the success message |
| 06:47.26 | hyperChipmunk | from the copy page |
| 06:47.32 | hyperChipmunk | not when it showed up in game |
| 06:47.40 | hyperChipmunk | i haven't even downloaded the client yet |
| 06:47.56 | hyperChipmunk | page says it's still pending |
| 06:48.13 | Killmore | ah k |
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| 06:49.08 | Lothaer | FUCKING HELL |
| 06:49.24 | Kerafyrm | ... |
| 06:49.56 | hyperChipmunk | tell us how you really feel |
| 06:49.58 | Lothaer | i just re-installed all my Ace addons without externals |
| 06:50.02 | Lothaer | and they all fucked up |
| 06:50.13 | Lothaer | i logged in and i had a shit load of errors |
| 06:50.18 | nymbia | do you have the uh |
| 06:50.20 | nymbia | libraries |
| 06:50.26 | Lothaer | yes i dod |
| 06:50.27 | hyperChipmunk | get the !!!!!!!!!!!StandaloneLibs addon |
| 06:50.29 | Lothaer | do |
| 06:50.32 | Lothaer | i did |
| 06:50.42 | nymbia | completely restart wow? |
| 06:50.52 | Lothaer | im not stupid |
| 06:50.54 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51839 10EnhancedLFG/core.lua: EnhancedLFG: temp fix for guild members not showing up |
| 06:50.56 | Lothaer | u talking like a GM |
| 06:50.58 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 06:51.05 | Bruners | haha |
| 06:51.10 | hyperChipmunk | well, he is trying to help you |
| 06:51.29 | Bruners | Lothaer: its all about trying to find out what you have and not done |
| 06:51.31 | hyperChipmunk | you'd be surprised how often it's the case |
| 06:51.45 | Corgan | oh man |
| 06:51.53 | Corgan | the amount of people next to the heroic vendor |
| 06:51.55 | hyperChipmunk | and asking that is relatively effortless and potentially saves a ton of work |
| 06:51.56 | Corgan | heroic badge* |
| 06:52.21 | hyperChipmunk | he seemed rather upset, i think |
| 06:52.30 | Bruners | will karazhan bosses drop heroic badges? |
| 06:53.07 | Corgan | yes |
| 06:53.13 | Corgan | same with ZA bosses |
| 06:53.16 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r51838 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 06:54.29 | Bruners | that will be some easy badges then |
| 06:55.09 | art3mis | and how do you feel about that hyper? |
| 06:55.31 | art3mis | what levels is ZA gonna be? |
| 06:55.34 | Corgan | that's why the gear is like, 60-85 badges each |
| 06:56.07 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: if i recall correctly, it's kara, or post-kara level |
| 06:56.09 | Corgan | ZA is said to be around prince/nightbane difficulty and higher |
| 06:56.18 | Corgan | the first boss should be on par with prince/nightbane |
| 06:56.20 | Corgan | and it gets harder |
| 06:57.06 | Bruners | in other words, a walk in the park |
| 06:57.37 | Corgan | honestly, from what i've heard, ZA is going to be more about tactics |
| 06:58.29 | Bruners | what is up with all the gear with ignoring armor and increasing health? |
| 06:59.06 | Mikk | ignore armor = win |
| 06:59.13 | Mikk | insane dps boost |
| 06:59.20 | Bruners | is it ? |
| 06:59.43 | hyperChipmunk | i know sunder is insane dps boost |
| 06:59.45 | Mikk | you haven't noticed getting omgwtf numbers on e.g. Aran? |
| 06:59.57 | hyperChipmunk | so if it's even a fraction of sunder, it'll be huge |
| 07:00.01 | Mikk | that's cause with sunder + faire fire he's basically at 0 armor |
| 07:00.22 | Bruners | havent done aran in a while other than healing |
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| 07:10.11 | nymbia | ow |
| 07:10.50 | Gngsk | any mod devs on test? |
| 07:11.37 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: dang and here i was hoping it was gonna be a low level instance for the BE's ;) |
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| 07:26.05 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r51840 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: frFR Update |
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| 07:32.25 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r51841 10Skillet/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:32.25 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 07:32.25 | CIA-12 | - more Locale |
| 07:32.25 | CIA-12 | - Updare locale koKR |
| 07:39.30 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r51842 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 07:39.30 | CIA-12 | AceTab-3.0: |
| 07:39.30 | CIA-12 | - Significant implementation logic overhaul |
| 07:39.30 | CIA-12 | - CycleTab will now work as a modal toggle. Previously, it checked the contents |
| 07:39.30 | CIA-12 | of the text box relative to the cursor to decide if there was user input between |
| 07:39.31 | CIA-12 | tab presses to break the cycle. Since the new system allows for formatting of |
| 07:39.36 | CIA-12 | matches independent of the match itself, it is now much easier to just hook |
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| 07:44.20 | neenee | Hm. Quite some addons are becoming obsolete in 2.3 :) |
| 07:44.28 | neenee | Like the skip-gossip addons |
| 07:45.09 | Gngsk | still be useful for some npcs, like innkeepers |
| 07:45.10 | Cmack | can someone help me with some Fubar issues? |
| 07:45.38 | Bruners | shoot |
| 07:46.23 | Cmack | im missing dependinces(sp?) on half of the fubar mods ive installed, i took a small break from wow and had to redownload everything |
| 07:46.41 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r51843 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: typo |
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| 07:46.49 | Cmack | and now im reading something about rock and/or FB3.0 |
| 07:50.57 | Lukian | Cmack, use WAU. |
| 07:50.59 | Lukian | or similar |
| 07:51.08 | syeren | Rock is the library that FuBar 3 utilizes ;p |
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| 07:52.16 | orionshock | nevcairiel: :P |
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| 07:53.01 | Cmack | ive used WAU...like 6 times |
| 07:53.18 | juvabien | hi, I'm looking for a website or web tool to organise raid... What is the best site for you? thx |
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| 07:59.20 | Bruners | juvabien: http://eqdkp.com/ ? |
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| 08:01.03 | juvabien | Bruners: thanks! |
| 08:04.04 | NeoTron | so ZA bear bossy was ezmode |
| 08:06.06 | cncfanatics | first boss ? |
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| 08:12.22 | Gngsk | anyone having issues with gratuity-2.0 on ptr? |
| 08:14.13 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51844 10AtlasLoot/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:14.13 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:14.13 | CIA-12 | - Arena Season 3 Weapons |
| 08:24.24 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r51845 10Automaton/Automaton.toc: |
| 08:24.24 | CIA-12 | Automaton: |
| 08:24.24 | CIA-12 | - Up TOC |
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| 08:30.20 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51846 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 08:30.20 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 08:30.20 | CIA-12 | - Arena Season 3 Weapons |
| 08:34.27 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r51847 10StanceSetsFu/StanceSetsFu.toc: |
| 08:34.27 | CIA-12 | StanceSetsFu: |
| 08:34.27 | CIA-12 | - Bump TOC.. can't believe I forgot bout my own addon needing an update LOL |
| 08:35.07 | Fisker- | what's the svn address again? |
| 08:36.16 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51848 10BigWigs/ (21 files in 9 dirs): BigWigs: add and update zhCN local. |
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| 08:37.13 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51849 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.toc: BossWhisperer: .toc add zhCN local |
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| 08:44.29 | Fisker- | oh u nevcairiel |
| 08:45.24 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51850 10LittleWigs/ (5 files in 4 dirs): LittleWigs: update zhCN local |
| 08:46.31 | orionshock | does table.sort have a default function? |
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| 08:47.12 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51851 10XLootGroup/ (XLootGroup.toc localization.zhCN.lua): XLootGroup: add zhCN local |
| 08:49.22 | orionshock | please don't fook xloot's translations |
| 08:49.45 | cncfanatics | orionshock, I think it sorts by alphabetical order by default |
| 08:49.50 | cncfanatics | it messes up with numbers though imo |
| 08:50.08 | orionshock | im just doing numbers tho >.> |
| 08:50.41 | cncfanatics | it messes up |
| 08:50.46 | cncfanatics | make ur own using tonumber |
| 08:50.49 | cncfanatics | and then compare both numbers |
| 08:51.16 | cncfanatics | the default one will order like 1 11 2 21 22 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 |
| 08:53.26 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/75237 -- thats the table, i'd like to be able to sort by time |
| 08:53.41 | orionshock | ... but i have this feeling that it's gona be compricated to do so |
| 08:54.03 | cncfanatics | don't store times like that imo |
| 08:54.13 | cncfanatics | u should store em in yyyymmddhhmmss |
| 08:54.22 | cncfanatics | and then just take the biggest/smallest first depending on what order u want em |
| 08:54.35 | orionshock | ya i know. |
| 08:54.41 | orionshock | it was a hack to begin with :D |
| 08:59.49 | Grum | just use sort with a custom function that handles it |
| 09:00.25 | Grum | but yeah, having yyyymmddhhmmss makes it even easier :D |
| 09:05.13 | orionshock | anyone got a pil link for how to do said "custom function" ? |
| 09:06.22 | Xinhuan | table.sort(t, myfunc) |
| 09:06.30 | Xinhuan | myfunc(a, b) your code here end |
| 09:06.38 | Xinhuan | a and b are the integer indexes |
| 09:07.04 | cncfanatics | ur func should return true or false |
| 09:07.10 | cncfanatics | true if a comes first, false if b comes first |
| 09:07.28 | Xinhuan | you normall return t[a] < t[b] |
| 09:07.53 | Xinhuan | you normally return t[a] < t[b] |
| 09:07.56 | Xinhuan | but you can change that |
| 09:08.05 | Xinhuan | such as |
| 09:08.08 | cncfanatics | you'd return tonumber(t[a]) < tonumber(t[b]) probably for you |
| 09:08.10 | orionshock | .. |
| 09:08.11 | Xinhuan | t[a].value < t[b].value |
| 09:08.12 | cncfanatics | if ur using the format I told ya that is |
| 09:08.17 | orionshock | problem tho... |
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| 09:08.28 | orionshock | im sorting based on a a subtable key |
| 09:08.36 | cncfanatics | just access it ? |
| 09:08.38 | cncfanatics | not like u can't |
| 09:09.12 | orionshock | im sorting the root table based on a sub table key |
| 09:09.29 | cncfanatics | read what Xinhuan said ? |
| 09:09.38 | cncfanatics | t[a].subtablekey |
| 09:10.08 | Mecdemort | are there any posts on how to add DogTags to an addon? all i can find are posts about tags themselves |
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| 09:11.16 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, only 2-3 addons use dogtags |
| 09:11.20 | Xinhuan | all your function needs to return is a TRUE or FALSE |
| 09:11.31 | Xinhuan | you return true if t[a] is smaller than t[b] |
| 09:11.34 | Mecdemort | ah |
| 09:11.37 | Xinhuan | or rather, sorted earlier |
| 09:11.47 | Xinhuan | so if you're sorting by a subkey |
| 09:11.57 | Xinhuan | you would "return t[a].value < t[b].value" |
| 09:12.22 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.30 | Xinhuan | pastey your code |
| 09:12.41 | Xinhuan | because you're probably not understanding the concept |
| 09:12.59 | Xinhuan | table.sort needs to determine if an element in the table is smaller than another |
| 09:13.07 | Xinhuan | your function is the function that tells sort that |
| 09:13.13 | orionshock | i get that |
| 09:15.43 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/75237 --- is the table structure, granted it's prolly not best and the date and time index is prolly not the best either |
| 09:16.01 | Xinhuan | k looking |
| 09:16.08 | orionshock | ... wait , ... get rid of the sub table and i can do that |
| 09:16.10 | orionshock | .... |
| 09:16.42 | Xinhuan | so what are you sorting? |
| 09:16.54 | orionshock | sorting quests by time |
| 09:16.59 | orionshock | date and time that is |
| 09:17.02 | Xinhuan | none of those strings will convert to a number |
| 09:17.07 | Xinhuan | tonumber() will give nil |
| 09:17.07 | orionshock | i know that |
| 09:17.23 | orionshock | im not programing atm i was doing theory |
| 09:18.22 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 09:18.24 | purl | nargiddley is currently on #wowi-lounge (10h 54m 45s) #wowace (10h 54m 45s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 3h 42m 31s, last said: 'don't change'. |
| 09:18.29 | FtH|Daemona | anyone know where toad is heading with autobar currently? its broken for days now for me if i update. |
| 09:18.48 | Speeddymon_ | Mikk: you here? |
| 09:19.26 | Speeddymon_ | ~seen mikk |
| 09:19.27 | purl | mikk is currently on #wowace (5h 59m 1s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 2h 19m 26s, last said: 'that's cause with sunder + faire fire he's basically at 0 armor'. |
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| 09:27.22 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics ? |
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| 09:33.12 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, got my /msg ? |
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| 09:34.19 | Grum | how can one hook a call to: Cartographer_Notes:SetNote ? |
| 09:34.58 | orionshock | local orig_Func = Cartographer_Notes.SetNote |
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| 09:35.15 | orionshock | Cartographer_Notes.SetNote = function(...) .... end |
| 09:36.50 | Grum | orionshock: no possible way to do that 'nicely' using AceHook (or RockHook?) |
| 09:36.53 | orionshock | question, if you hocksecurefunc() a |
| 09:37.03 | orionshock | nmd |
| 09:37.46 | orionshock | grum - programing basiscs 101, don't let libs do for you in a complicated way what you can do for yourself in a simple way :D |
| 09:39.31 | Grum | orionshock - programing basics 102, if just the samples are lacking but you get better completeness using an api, just go and figure it out ;D |
| 09:39.41 | Grum | i dont want to be responsible for removing the hook myself for example |
| 09:39.55 | Grum | but i found it :) |
| 09:42.01 | CIA-12 | 03saroz * r51852 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: Vashj - Funkah is sleeping |
| 09:42.59 | vhaarr | Saroz: Actually, self:Sync("VLootUpdate", pplayer) works fine. |
| 09:43.06 | vhaarr | Saroz: of course, what funk did was still wrong |
| 09:43.08 | vhaarr | just saying |
| 09:43.08 | Saroz | "pplayer" |
| 09:43.11 | vhaarr | I know |
| 09:43.11 | Saroz | kk |
| 09:43.13 | vhaarr | hence |
| 09:43.14 | vhaarr | Saroz: of course, what funk did was still wrong |
| 09:43.16 | vhaarr | ^ |
| 09:44.36 | Mikk | Speeddymon_: pong |
| 09:45.38 | Borked|Raider | costom made texture, do they need to be a box, aka same width as hight? |
| 09:50.50 | vhaarr | Borked|Raider: I've no experience with UI coding in WoW, but Nargiddley or Mikk probably know. |
| 09:51.01 | Borked|Raider | :) |
| 09:54.17 | Mecdemort | anyone know what this minimap button is on the test realm, has options: Repair, Food & Drink, Reagents, Innkeeper, ... |
| 09:57.23 | cncfanatics | Birjed|Raider, they don't have to have the same width & height |
| 09:57.28 | cncfanatics | but both width & height need to be a power of 2 |
| 09:57.45 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: It allows you to track NPCs that match the listed categories |
| 09:58.04 | Mecdemort | ah, i guess theres none around the starting area that match |
| 09:58.21 | vhaarr | there should be some |
| 09:58.24 | vhaarr | ammo vendor |
| 09:58.28 | vhaarr | repair guy |
| 09:58.29 | vhaarr | etc |
| 09:58.42 | Mecdemort | hmm probably inside the bunker, havnt been in there yet |
| 09:58.46 | sb | its sooo <3 |
| 09:59.07 | Mecdemort | is this just for the PTR or is it going to be added in 2.3, i didnt see any notes about it |
| 09:59.11 | sb | well w/o that tracing its impossible to find the flying machine guy in SMV (as horde :p) |
| 09:59.18 | sb | tracking even |
| 09:59.35 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: doesn't make sense to have it only for the PTR |
| 09:59.41 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: will probably be in release |
| 09:59.47 | sb | looks like its going to be added - same with quest/other locations on minimap (which is also <3 :o) |
| 10:01.48 | Mecdemort | ya know there was tracking of the spines on the naj'entus fight at one point but i think they took it off the servers |
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| 10:03.27 | Borked|Raider | thx cncfanatics. |
| 10:06.23 | sb | mhh is there some sort of profession calculator? |
| 10:06.54 | sb | so e.g. "i wanna have 50 mana potions + 20 resto flasks - tell me exactly what i need" |
| 10:06.56 | sb | wtb :/ |
| 10:07.53 | orionshock | sb, AdvancedTradeSkillWindow (ATSW) |
| 10:08.06 | sb | and if i dont have that profession? :) |
| 10:08.24 | orionshock | hmm.... kinda screwed iirc |
| 10:08.36 | sb | web based would be best ;o |
| 10:08.38 | Mecdemort | notepad+calculator+wowhead? |
| 10:08.57 | sb | mhh... trying to build one later... |
| 10:08.59 | sb | or excel sheet |
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| 10:11.08 | orionshock | .... i forget whats the simple regex function? |
| 10:11.18 | orionshock | str.gsub()? |
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| 10:14.03 | Mecdemort | str:match() |
| 10:14.37 | charon | morning |
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| 10:16.20 | cncfanatics | string.gsub is to replace string.match to match |
| 10:16.40 | Mecdemort | probably thinking of gfind which is a bit more indepth than match |
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| 10:17.21 | cncfanatics | just returns the positions too |
| 10:17.24 | cncfanatics | not needed for most cases though |
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| 10:17.54 | orionshock | y , m, d, h, m = string.match(date, " regex ....") |
| 10:18.00 | orionshock | now to figure out the regex |
| 10:18.34 | cncfanatics | ur using the same var twice |
| 10:18.35 | cncfanatics | bad idea |
| 10:18.38 | orionshock | well add a key - guess there is no other way arround it |
| 10:18.41 | cncfanatics | (month & minute) |
| 10:18.45 | orionshock | cncfanatics: ya |
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| 10:18.56 | baer_ | moin. |
| 10:19.00 | cncfanatics | anyway, u'll probably do newdate = y .. m ..d ..h .. m after that |
| 10:19.05 | cncfanatics | so I suggest using string.gsub |
| 10:20.01 | orionshock | no im prittyifying a date from a table |
| 10:20.29 | orionshock | lua> date("%Y%m%d%H%M") |
| 10:20.29 | cladbot | orionshock: 200710130620, |
| 10:20.39 | orionshock | specificly that one |
| 10:21.29 | Mecdemort | just do year, month, day, hour, minute = date("%Y%m%d%H%M"):match("(....)(..)(..)(..)(..)") |
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| 10:21.55 | cncfanatics | u'd match ([%d][%d][%d][%d]- for year |
| 10:21.56 | orionshock | hehe... |
| 10:22.03 | cncfanatics | s/([%d][%d][%d][%d]-/([%d][%d][%d][%d]) |
| 10:22.08 | cncfanatics | ah wel, u get it |
| 10:22.11 | cncfanatics | replace the - by a ) |
| 10:22.36 | orionshock | i feed the date() into a table, then in a tool tip update i call the table value out and prittyify it when it's displayed |
| 10:22.58 | orionshock | reason i don't want to feed the pritty date into the table is because it won't sort properly |
| 10:23.12 | cncfanatics | omg, dattebayo dropped bleach ? what a fuck asses |
| 10:23.36 | Mecdemort | ? |
| 10:24.19 | cncfanatics | dattebayo dropped the subbing of bleach, if u know what bleach is :p |
| 10:25.05 | cncfanatics | (its an animé serie) |
| 10:25.32 | Mecdemort | i do |
| 10:25.48 | Mecdemort | im only on episode 70 tho |
| 10:25.57 | cncfanatics | well, they're dropping it it seems, last one is 234 |
| 10:26.03 | cncfanatics | I hope its a troll though |
| 10:26.10 | cncfanatics | but there aren't any clues it is, and there usualy are if it is |
| 10:26.13 | Mecdemort | im sure someone will pick it up |
| 10:26.43 | cncfanatics | *someone* picking it up means episodes will take monthsto come out |
| 10:26.54 | Mecdemort | true |
| 10:27.02 | Mecdemort | how many episodes are there |
| 10:27.35 | Gngsk | ~seen elkano |
| 10:27.37 | purl | elkano <n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-169.handshake.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 1h 17m 3s ago, saying: 'there is no interface.mpq anymore'. |
| 10:27.37 | cncfanatics | heh, very good questions |
| 10:27.39 | cncfanatics | 243 subbed in english this far |
| 10:27.47 | cncfanatics | dunno how much there actualy are out in jap |
| 10:27.49 | Mech0z | Is there a way to update mods with wowaceupdater from www.wowinterface.com ? |
| 10:27.59 | Gngsk | ebb2 is super screwed on test! |
| 10:27.59 | Borked|Raider | anyone got a code sample for making a frame with a costom texture, nothing fancy, just need to show the texture and i can change its position in the code parent to UIparent or something |
| 10:28.24 | orionshock | Mech0z: not with WAU1, with WAU2 yes... if wowi supported it |
| 10:29.26 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I might actualy start reading the manga |
| 10:29.50 | orionshock | oops... |
| 10:29.57 | orionshock | work in local not global. |
| 10:29.59 | Mikk | Mech0z: problem with using software to update from mod sites is they get zero revenue |
| 10:30.11 | Mech0z | Year I guess :/ |
| 10:30.14 | Mikk | there's been other updaters written to pull from wowi, curse, etc |
| 10:30.18 | Mikk | they've been subsequently blocker |
| 10:30.20 | Mikk | blocked* |
| 10:30.32 | Mech0z | ok |
| 10:30.34 | Mikk | WAU works for wowace (sorta) cause it shows ads |
| 10:30.47 | Mikk | then there's dicks that think that they must have everything for free so they hack wau to not show ads |
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| 10:31.15 | Mech0z | well if you think those adds are in the way you seriusly need to use a bigger resolution |
| 10:31.29 | Mech0z | its not like they popup or anything |
| 10:31.35 | orionshock | Mech0z: it's not that, the whole idea bothers them |
| 10:31.40 | Mikk | they're just idiots that don't get it. they think the money gets sent to wau's author |
| 10:31.49 | Mikk | and what orionshock says |
| 10:32.15 | Nerox | I"m having a problem with X-loot. Every once in a while when I go to loot something the frame will be stretched out a few inches more and it won't fix up. Anyone know how to fix it so the loot window only fits the length of the items I'm looting? |
| 10:32.27 | Mech0z | Well I liked using addblocker, but when I thought about how bad it is for webdevs. I didnt install it after next format c: |
| 10:32.56 | orionshock | Nerox: move the frame to the far left - that fixes it for the moment, it happens when the window appears and it's touching the far right or bottom |
| 10:33.02 | Mikk | anything that goes flash flash flash in my face gets a block tho |
| 10:33.10 | Mecdemort | i use addblocker, i just unblock the sites i use often because some sites are more adds than info |
| 10:33.28 | Nerox | Thanks Orionshock I'll try that. |
| 10:33.37 | orionshock | it works for me :D |
| 10:34.36 | Nerox | Just worked for me thanks :) Should I turn off the option for the loot window to appear at my cursor pointer? |
| 10:34.49 | Nerox | Or will that fix it up each time it does that? |
| 10:36.25 | orionshock | ya |
| 10:36.42 | orionshock | the code needs to be touched a bit to anchor it properly |
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| 10:38.20 | Nerox | Ah okay, Thanks a bunch :) |
| 10:39.14 | orionshock | btw mikk i hate you for the min or 2 that i have your attention :P |
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| 10:40.48 | orionshock | you posted an IRC log into the Ace3Comms jira ticket.... it was a pita to read... |
| 10:40.53 | orionshock | but it was good |
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| 10:44.25 | orionshock | ok "table.sort(DailyFu.db.char.quests, DailyFu_TableSort)" |
| 10:44.36 | orionshock | now is the 2nd arg suposed to be an inline func? |
| 10:46.05 | Nargiddley | inline ? |
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| 10:48.09 | orionshock | ie: |
| 10:48.33 | orionshock | table.sort(DailyFu.db.char.quests, function() ... end) |
| 10:49.23 | nevcairiel | doesnt matter if its inline or a function ref |
| 10:49.25 | nevcairiel | lua doesnt care |
| 10:49.26 | Nargiddley | no difference between the two from sorts perspective |
| 10:49.56 | orionshock | well this thing can't count btw... |
| 10:51.21 | orionshock | nevermind |
| 10:51.23 | orionshock | ... |
| 10:53.00 | Mecdemort | when setting a backdrop, is it possible to just use a background color instead of a texture? |
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| 10:54.28 | Nargiddley | I use "Interface\\ChatFrame\\ChatFrameBackground" which is a plain white texture. :SetBackdropColor to get whatever you want |
| 10:55.03 | Mecdemort | ok, thanks |
| 11:01.48 | Grum | orionshock: an inline function or a variable holding a function |
| 11:02.11 | orionshock | well neither seem to know how to count |
| 11:02.13 | orionshock | >.> |
| 11:02.29 | orionshock | either that or im not setting this func up correctly |
| 11:02.41 | Grum | odds are you arent |
| 11:03.24 | orionshock | ya |
| 11:03.25 | Grum | make sure your 'sorter' accepts 2 variables |
| 11:03.50 | orionshock | me thinks that the 2 vars being passed are the table keys, and not the table values |
| 11:04.04 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:04.08 | cncfanatics | we told ya that :p |
| 11:04.19 | Grum | ofc they are |
| 11:04.25 | Grum | well |
| 11:04.30 | Grum | mm that kinda depends i think on your table |
| 11:04.42 | Grum | nah has to be keys |
| 11:04.42 | orionshock | cncfanatics: ... im a slow learner |
| 11:04.44 | Grum | either way :D |
| 11:04.51 | Grum | If comp is given, then it must be a function that receives two table elements, and returns true when the first is less than the second |
| 11:04.56 | Grum | that is what the docs say |
| 11:04.58 | Grum | and that is not clear imho |
| 11:05.08 | cncfanatics | should say it recieves two table keys |
| 11:05.30 | Grum | btw Cartographer_Routes can now extend previously added routes with new nodes that match the ones selected when making the route |
| 11:05.45 | Grum | so close to a first release now :D |
| 11:07.30 | Grum | lol |
| 11:07.43 | cncfanatics | xD |
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| 11:07.45 | cncfanatics | nice stuff |
| 11:07.46 | Grum | orionshock: just 1 tip, you can only sort lists and not dicts |
| 11:07.50 | cncfanatics | I'm actualy coding too atm |
| 11:08.01 | Grum | and you will get the values |
| 11:08.02 | orionshock | Grum: .... |
| 11:08.08 | orionshock | well fk. |
| 11:08.09 | Grum | not the keys |
| 11:08.12 | Grum | no |
| 11:08.24 | Grum | the way to sort the dict is by getting a list of its keys |
| 11:08.27 | Grum | and ordering the keys |
| 11:08.39 | Grum | while looking at the data in the dict using the keys as lookup |
| 11:08.58 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/75246 |
| 11:09.05 | orionshock | the context is all wrong but that's the effect |
| 11:09.22 | Grum | that is not working |
| 11:09.49 | orionshock | Grum>that is not working <-- Statement of fact or question? |
| 11:10.40 | Grum | you have to do: local keys = {}; for k,_ in pairs( table ) tinsert(keys, k) end; table.sort( keys, function(a,b) table[a] < table[b] end ) |
| 11:11.00 | Grum | then you can iterate the table by using 'keys' which are now sorted |
| 11:11.06 | Grum | a dict is per definition unsorted |
| 11:11.14 | orionshock | i don't want to sort by key |
| 11:11.15 | Grum | the only way to sort it is getting a list of its keys and sorting that |
| 11:11.18 | orionshock | :( |
| 11:11.21 | Grum | you arent |
| 11:11.22 | Grum | look |
| 11:11.27 | Grum | function(a,b) table[a] < table[b] end |
| 11:11.34 | Grum | you sort by the *value* found in table |
| 11:11.39 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r51853 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 11:11.40 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 11:11.40 | CIA-12 | - Fixed Auctioneer bug when setting custom prices |
| 11:12.03 | Grum | but you have to do it by the list of keys |
| 11:12.14 | Grum | and you prolly want: |
| 11:12.17 | CIA-12 | 03gamefaq * r51854 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua: BigWigs: Typo Fix (missing string) in zhCN Local |
| 11:12.25 | Grum | function(a,b) tonumber(table[a]) < tonumber(table[b]) end |
| 11:12.50 | orionshock | ... don't want to sort by key |
| 11:13.04 | Grum | then what tod you want to do? |
| 11:13.10 | Grum | tell me |
| 11:13.15 | Grum | you want to sort it on the 'date' right? |
| 11:13.21 | orionshock | yes |
| 11:13.26 | Grum | k |
| 11:13.47 | orionshock | ... could just do date = quest, then do the sort function and display backwards.. |
| 11:13.54 | Nargiddley | no |
| 11:13.55 | Grum | local keys = {}; for k,_ in pairs( quests ) tinsert(keys, k) end; table.sort( keys, function(a,b) return quests[a] < quests[b] end ) |
| 11:13.58 | Grum | use that code |
| 11:14.03 | Nargiddley | you cant sort a dictionary |
| 11:14.11 | Grum | and then you will have the right order in 'keys' |
| 11:14.18 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51855 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua EventManager/EventManager.lua Slashcommands.lua): |
| 11:14.18 | CIA-12 | FlexBar2: |
| 11:14.18 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.18 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.19 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.24 | cncfanatics | you can't sort a dictionary indeed |
| 11:14.33 | cncfanatics | pair's order is always semi-random |
| 11:14.34 | orionshock | Nargiddley: ... don't that sound like a contradiction |
| 11:14.40 | Grum | so then you do: for i=1, #keys do self:Print( quest[key] ) end |
| 11:14.45 | cncfanatics | can only sort numericaly indexed tables |
| 11:14.52 | Nargiddley | only a table that is {1 = "c", 2 = "a", 3 = "b"} can be sorted |
| 11:14.53 | orionshock | in common useage a dictionary is by definition sorted |
| 11:15.08 | Nargiddley | and after sorting it would be {1 = "a", 2 = "b", 3 = "c"} |
| 11:15.09 | Grum | orionshock: read what i have typed and just do that |
| 11:15.10 | Grum | it will work |
| 11:15.35 | Grum | the problem you are facing is that you have to sort the keys and with a custom table.sort you can sort them by value in quests |
| 11:15.56 | Grum | ermmmm: for i=1, #keys do self:Print( quest[i] ) end |
| 11:16.06 | Grum | lol |
| 11:16.07 | Grum | not even close |
| 11:16.14 | Grum | ermmmm: for i=1, #keys do self:Print( quest[keys[i]] ) end |
| 11:16.18 | Grum | meh almost had it :D |
| 11:17.45 | Trell_ | the skins on some of the ZA stuff looks awesome! |
| 11:17.57 | orionshock | could always do this the loose way; sense the value is a number, swap it with the key - sort it, then reverse them back |
| 11:18.03 | Nargiddley | you cant |
| 11:18.04 | orionshock | ... prolly wont work but... |
| 11:18.14 | orionshock | ok don't reverse them |
| 11:18.16 | Grum | dude |
| 11:18.23 | Grum | just do it like we told you ^^ |
| 11:18.27 | Nargiddley | the *only* tables you can sort are ones you can use ipairs to iterate over. |
| 11:18.35 | Grum | yup |
| 11:18.37 | Nargiddley | there is no other order for tables |
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| 11:19.01 | orionshock | you don't understand... I DON"T UNDERSTAND |
| 11:19.02 | Nargiddley | except getting t[1] then t[2] untill you hit nil |
| 11:19.08 | orionshock | you solution is to complicated fo rme |
| 11:19.26 | orionshock | ... just give me about 3 hours i'll figure it out |
| 11:19.55 | cncfanatics | orionshock, thats complicated ? come on |
| 11:20.05 | cncfanatics | thing is, there is no other solution |
| 11:20.10 | Grum | orionshock: i can explain it again if you want |
| 11:20.13 | orionshock | you'd be surprised here |
| 11:20.26 | Grum | from where does it get fuzzy orionshock? |
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| 11:20.31 | orionshock | give me about 10 mins to figure out what's been said over IRC |
| 11:20.46 | Grum | sure, just ask away if you have any unclearness |
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| 11:20.52 | Grum | it's not hard to explain it again :) |
| 11:21.40 | haarm | soooo, does anyone here have a char on the eu pvp test realm? :) |
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| 11:22.13 | orionshock | ok i understand now.. |
| 11:22.32 | orionshock | just how to fit it into the fking tooltip.. |
| 11:22.37 | orionshock | gona be interesting |
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| 11:23.45 | Zhinjio | G'morning, ckknight. |
| 11:25.26 | Grum | haarm: i thought they only put up pve testrealms |
| 11:25.36 | haarm | nope |
| 11:26.11 | Gngsk | both are up but copies only worked to pvp realm |
| 11:26.16 | Gngsk | so it's packed, or was earlier |
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| 11:26.30 | haarm | was just speccing my prot pala... talent change is nice, but dunno where to put last 3 points |
| 11:26.45 | haarm | gngsk, thats why i wanna get my ass over to an instance server ;D |
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| 11:29.22 | orionshock | so whats more "expensive" a table referance & lookup or a new variable? |
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| 11:30.08 | Nargiddley | a new local ? |
| 11:30.30 | orionshock | hehe i guess this dosn't work GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine( keys[i], DailyFu:MakePrittyDate(quests[keys[i]]) ) |
| 11:30.31 | Grum | orionshock: depends on quantities of each |
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| 11:32.37 | Grum | if you make zillions of new tables a new local variable is cheaper |
| 11:32.41 | Gngsk | wow they seriously buffed the boats |
| 11:32.45 | Gngsk | vendors and everything! |
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| 11:32.49 | Grum | buffed boats? |
| 11:32.52 | Gngsk | yah |
| 11:33.05 | Gngsk | npcs, repair dudes, food and drink vendors with cooking reagents |
| 11:33.27 | orionshock | fk this.. |
| 11:33.41 | Grum | dammit this addon is starting to rawk :D |
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| 11:41.53 | Hjalte | Grum, what addon? |
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| 11:45.27 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51856 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: |
| 11:45.27 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 11:45.27 | CIA-12 | - Optimizing a route now also redraws the minimap |
| 11:45.27 | CIA-12 | - Stores and display route-length in option screen |
| 11:45.27 | CIA-12 | - Hooked adding new nodes. If a route was based on that node-type the route will now extend itself with the new node (only works on newly created routes) [TODO#5: Done] |
| 11:45.50 | Grum | 3 more todo items .. rawr |
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| 11:48.04 | Hjalte | Grum, release it to public soon, so that noobs like me can try it :) |
| 11:48.21 | Grum | just try it now :) |
| 11:48.30 | Grum | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Cartographer_Routes/WIP/Cartographer_Routes/ l( |
| 11:48.33 | Grum | ;) |
| 11:48.57 | Gngsk | grimtotem in dustallow, weird |
| 11:49.27 | Grum | but Hjalte, the idea is to release it this weekend |
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| 11:51.08 | Trell_ | Hjalte; it's awesome. |
| 11:51.45 | mikma | is it anything like SURPRISE BUTTSECKS?!?! |
| 11:51.54 | Trell_ | no, it's better. |
| 11:52.02 | Trell_ | hard to believe, I know |
| 11:52.15 | mikma | then it must be surprire nostrilsex or something |
| 11:52.53 | Trell_ | has anyone tested the levelling speed on the ptr's? |
| 11:53.10 | Trell_ | just managed to get an alt copied over this morning, but its apaprently a 4 day wait :X |
| 11:53.21 | Trell_ | and still 7h till my ZA resets >_< |
| 11:54.04 | Grum | did you kill anything in ZA? ;D |
| 11:54.23 | Grum | Trell_: do update btw |
| 11:54.24 | Mecdemort | sexual relations with the ear canal is the way to go |
| 11:54.35 | Grum | it has more spiffy features now :) |
| 11:54.41 | Trell_ | no Grum, some idiotic pug that took 2 hours to form |
| 11:54.47 | Trell_ | we killed some trash |
| 11:54.47 | Grum | hehe |
| 11:54.51 | Trell_ | and had a go at the bear boss |
| 11:54.59 | Trell_ | 1 wipe, and people had to leave, idiots |
| 11:55.06 | Trell_ | leaving me saved for 24h. |
| 11:55.20 | Mecdemort | 24 save time? |
| 11:55.20 | Trell_ | just updated it Grum; logging on in a sec |
| 11:55.24 | Trell_ | only on ptr's |
| 11:55.30 | Trell_ | 3d on live I think |
| 11:55.32 | Mecdemort | ah |
| 11:55.35 | Grum | you missing any features btw Trell_? :) |
| 11:55.36 | Mecdemort | eh, thats not too bad |
| 11:55.53 | Trell_ | Mecdemort - the second someone talks to the NPC guy, you get saved though |
| 11:55.53 | Grum | now is the time .. tomorrow will he the likely release :) |
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| 11:55.59 | Trell_ | which makes it a bitch on the PTR's |
| 11:56.03 | Gngsk | damn man |
| 11:56.05 | Trell_ | since someone is bound to talk to the npc |
| 11:56.10 | Trell_ | leaving you saved for another 24h |
| 11:56.13 | Gngsk | dustwallow is looking better than stv for leveling |
| 11:56.27 | Mecdemort | i cant get my guy copied over yet so i havnt looked at anything :x |
| 11:56.34 | Trell_ | thats goo, Gngsk - so bored of STV |
| 11:56.37 | Trell_ | *good |
| 11:56.37 | Gngsk | there's an s load of quests |
| 11:56.39 | Mecdemort | i want to check out ritual of refreshments badly |
| 11:56.47 | Trell_ | Mecdemort - that spell is the shit :P |
| 11:57.00 | Trell_ | anim is the same as soulwell, but it puts up a 'Refreshment Table' |
| 11:57.10 | Mecdemort | ya i saw a pic |
| 11:57.13 | Trell_ | you get a Mana Biscuit that restores 7500 health and mana. |
| 11:57.25 | Trell_ | well, 20 per click. |
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| 11:58.19 | Grum | Trell_: how many clicks will it survive and what is the cooldown? :) |
| 11:58.24 | Trell_ | erm no idea |
| 11:58.28 | Trell_ | im not a mage :( |
| 11:58.38 | Grum | tssk |
| 11:58.39 | Trell_ | 5m cd |
| 11:58.41 | Hjalte | I read somewhere that it is 50 clicks |
| 11:58.42 | Trell_ | 80% of base mana |
| 11:58.48 | Trell_ | 3m or 50 clicks |
| 11:58.57 | Grum | why make it so expensive? O.o |
| 11:59.01 | Grum | that is like stupid allover again |
| 11:59.17 | Grum | and why limit clicks? |
| 11:59.19 | Grum | seriously O.o |
| 11:59.25 | Trell_ | 50 charges is enough, isn't it? |
| 11:59.34 | Grum | in a raid .. it might |
| 11:59.45 | Grum | i usually need 2 stacks for a complete night |
| 11:59.55 | Grum | at max |
| 11:59.57 | Trell_ | ok, so even if you're raid was 25 casters |
| 12:00.03 | Trell_ | thats still 2 clicks each |
| 12:00.07 | Grum | but Trell_, found any problems or wanting any features? |
| 12:00.14 | Trell_ | let me log in and see |
| 12:00.28 | Trell_ | nothing since I first dl'd it, but that was ages ago, when you first told people to start trying it |
| 12:00.34 | Trell_ | I've updated it now |
| 12:00.43 | Grum | it has some massive changes |
| 12:04.09 | orionshock | ok.. :match() isn't working when it's a number |
| 12:04.11 | orionshock | >.> |
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| 12:04.34 | CIA-12 | IncomingHealsLib: |
| 12:04.34 | CIA-12 | - Remove Compost, and use embeds.xml |
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| 12:05.08 | Trell_ | mmm the new Autobar is sexy. |
| 12:05.11 | Trell_ | on a side note |
| 12:05.20 | Grum | they the guy actually manage to fix it? |
| 12:06.25 | CIA-12 | 03archarodim * r51858 10Decursive/ (Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua Decursive.lua localization.es.lua): |
| 12:06.25 | CIA-12 | Decursive: |
| 12:06.25 | CIA-12 | - Probably fixed a rare LUA error that could occur in race conditions. (IsSpellInRange(): Invalid spell slot) |
| 12:06.54 | Trell_ | well I haven't got any errors |
| 12:07.01 | orionshock | sob it worked |
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| 12:08.12 | orionshock | ... isn't that what trunk is for? |
| 12:08.33 | orionshock | considering that we're really not suposed to touch others code |
| 12:08.37 | Grum | lets not start that |
| 12:08.46 | ag`_ | start what |
| 12:08.50 | CIA-12 | 03grapz * r51859 10FuBar_GrindFu/ (. FuBar_GrindFu.toc GrindFu.lua embeds.xml libs/ locales/): FuBar_GrindFu: Initial commit |
| 12:08.51 | cncfanatics | major major changes shld be on branches |
| 12:08.54 | Grum | if you update your addons before a raid and you end up with 4 broken addons that is just stupid |
| 12:08.56 | cncfanatics | (like recodes & stuff) |
| 12:09.05 | cncfanatics | Grum, don't update before a raid tbh |
| 12:09.14 | Grum | it doesnt matter when you update |
| 12:09.20 | Grum | if you update it should not be broken |
| 12:09.27 | orionshock | well i could start the SVN is not a distro medium argument.. |
| 12:09.36 | Trell_ | ewww my routes line is pink |
| 12:09.37 | Grum | but since it is ... |
| 12:09.44 | Grum | Trell_: new default color ;) |
| 12:09.46 | Grum | go change it |
| 12:09.50 | Grum | it was > black |
| 12:09.55 | orionshock | not "since it is" ... it is not - period |
| 12:10.01 | Trell_ | pink as default is... |
| 12:10.05 | Trell_ | ewww |
| 12:10.07 | orionshock | no argument - it is not a distro method that is viable |
| 12:10.09 | Grum | orionshock: it is on wowace |
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| 12:10.18 | orionshock | and look at what it's done to people |
| 12:10.21 | Grum | and it would be viable if people would not do surgery on trunk |
| 12:10.45 | orionshock | Grum: fk that, make a tag, and tell files site to pull from that |
| 12:10.51 | cncfanatics | its svn, its MADE to take surgery |
| 12:10.57 | cncfanatics | WAU should grab from tags indeed |
| 12:11.10 | Grum | orionshock: lol .. isnt how wowace works |
| 12:11.18 | cncfanatics | Grum, it is how it will soon |
| 12:11.26 | orionshock | you not getting the point - it should |
| 12:11.31 | Grum | it should not either |
| 12:11.41 | Grum | but i dont have time to start the discussion again |
| 12:11.43 | orionshock | Grum: it should |
| 12:11.45 | Grum | will be too long |
| 12:11.50 | cncfanatics | how is it longer ? |
| 12:12.00 | CIA-12 | 03wt * r51860 10GridStatusIncomingHeals/ (4 files): |
| 12:12.00 | CIA-12 | GridStatusIncomingHeals: |
| 12:12.00 | CIA-12 | - Fix missing libs needed by IncomingHealsLib |
| 12:12.00 | CIA-12 | - Option to hide own heals |
| 12:12.00 | CIA-12 | - Lets not hide everything on first finished cast |
| 12:12.01 | CIA-12 | - TOC bump |
| 12:12.34 | Grum | because you will not be able to give any good arguments why trunk should be the surgery place and will just keep repeating yourself :) |
| 12:13.00 | orionshock | surgery no - that should be done in branches ofc |
| 12:13.00 | cncfanatics | Grum, give any arguments why it should not be a surgery place ? thats what svn is about |
| 12:13.13 | orionshock | but the thing is that trunk is considered stable beta, not release |
| 12:13.20 | orionshock | most idiots want release not beta |
| 12:13.25 | Grum | i can give you one, if you do surgery there you can only have 1 people doing surgery at the same time |
| 12:13.30 | cryogen | the point is users should not be exposed to experimental code |
| 12:13.30 | Grum | *person |
| 12:13.36 | cryogen | it doesnt matter where the hell you do your development |
| 12:13.39 | cncfanatics | Grum, thats not true |
| 12:13.39 | cryogen | as long as its not released |
| 12:13.56 | Grum | cncfanatics: because? |
| 12:13.59 | orionshock | Grum: that's sorta how it is, only you should be adjusting your mods |
| 12:13.59 | cryogen | unless they want it of ourse |
| 12:14.10 | Grum | orionshock: not true |
| 12:14.22 | orionshock | no not always but classicly |
| 12:14.22 | Grum | Cartographer_Routes is made by 2 persons that just freely commit to the same files |
| 12:14.41 | Grum | orionshock: so you agree it doesnt always work |
| 12:14.59 | orionshock | well the translators seem to fk it up the most tbh |
| 12:15.03 | Grum | any then why not pick a solution that will work for everything |
| 12:15.07 | cncfanatics | I say WAU is the culprit, the svn is fine, WAU & files server should get their stuff from tags |
| 12:15.08 | Grum | that is also easy to solve |
| 12:15.08 | orionshock | and considering that it's a minor fk up |
| 12:15.24 | Grum | cncfanatics: nothing wrong with WAU |
| 12:15.48 | Grum | if you would do it from tags you would have to tag (or retag) for every single bugfix you do |
| 12:16.07 | cncfanatics | Grum, that depends on ur development cycle |
| 12:16.17 | cncfanatics | FB for example is in trunk now, its pretty stable |
| 12:16.22 | cryogen | if you dont release broken code, the point is moot |
| 12:16.24 | cncfanatics | when its 100% totaly stable it'll get a tag |
| 12:16.25 | orionshock | Grum: you shouldn't be bug fixing tags |
| 12:16.42 | cncfanatics | tags == RELEASE quality code that has had no bug reported in at least 2-3 weeks |
| 12:16.57 | Mikk | yep, no bug fixing tags, that's wrong |
| 12:16.57 | Grum | orionshock: if i make a bugfix and you claim any 'released code' should be tagged then for every single bugfix i will have to tag the code to make it a new release |
| 12:17.06 | Mikk | correct |
| 12:17.07 | Mikk | that's not a problem |
| 12:17.11 | Mikk | tags take zero space |
| 12:17.12 | Grum | cncfanatics: no .. TAGS is a name for a changeset nothing else |
| 12:17.18 | Grum | Mikk: it's more work |
| 12:17.21 | Mikk | eh? |
| 12:17.23 | Grum | i have to tag .. every single time |
| 12:17.26 | Mikk | yes? |
| 12:17.29 | Mikk | and? |
| 12:17.30 | Grum | yes and that is more work |
| 12:17.30 | cncfanatics | poor lazy lil guy |
| 12:17.34 | Grum | lol |
| 12:17.59 | cncfanatics | one more line to type ? poor guy |
| 12:18.02 | Mikk | and if we didn't have wau you'd be packing zips and submitting web forms for every bug |
| 12:18.04 | cryogen | no tags are not a changeset, tags are a release, you dont release every bugfix |
| 12:18.10 | Grum | lol |
| 12:18.11 | orionshock | Grum: if you have to put out bug fixes... then you shouldn't have tag'ed it to begin with -- argument invalid |
| 12:18.15 | Grum | tags are just a name for a changeset :) |
| 12:18.19 | Mikk | no |
| 12:18.21 | Grum | yes |
| 12:18.28 | Mikk | go read up on svn vocabulary |
| 12:18.29 | Grum | named 'versions' nothing else |
| 12:18.37 | Mikk | yeah that much is right |
| 12:18.46 | cryogen | tags are what you make them |
| 12:18.46 | Grum | that is what i said: name for a changeset |
| 12:18.49 | Grum | name for a revision |
| 12:18.55 | Grum | nothing claims that tags have to be stable |
| 12:18.59 | cryogen | a specific revision |
| 12:19.01 | Grum | or that only releases can be tagged |
| 12:19.02 | cryogen | pfft |
| 12:19.06 | Grum | or that releases *SHOULD* be tagged |
| 12:19.12 | Mikk | well |
| 12:19.19 | Mikk | with the coming site changes |
| 12:19.31 | Grum | all addons will break |
| 12:19.39 | Grum | because non have tags |
| 12:19.45 | Grum | either way |
| 12:19.51 | Mikk | you WILL have to do an "svn cp" to get it out on the stable release page |
| 12:19.57 | Grum | if you use tags for marking release then you have to do another couploe of things: |
| 12:20.00 | Grum | 1) remember to tag em |
| 12:20.08 | Grum | 2) remember which one was latest |
| 12:20.15 | Grum | 3) if you branch - remember to branch from the latest |
| 12:20.26 | Mikk | eh... you tag & branch from trunk |
| 12:20.38 | Grum | no you dont |
| 12:20.48 | Grum | if 2 people are working on the code and 1 is doing major surgery in trunk |
| 12:20.54 | Grum | you are NOT going to branch trunk as that is broken code |
| 12:21.01 | Mikk | obviously |
| 12:21.08 | cncfanatics | well, said person shldnt have been doing major surgery in trunk in the first place |
| 12:21.14 | cncfanatics | shld have made a surgery branch for that |
| 12:21.17 | Grum | yup |
| 12:21.26 | Mikk | and when surgery is complete -> merge back into trunk |
| 12:21.26 | Mikk | test |
| 12:21.28 | Mikk | then tag |
| 12:21.36 | Mikk | easy peasy |
| 12:21.41 | Grum | Mikk: you jsut say that you have a branch for major changes |
| 12:21.46 | mikma | pisseasy, peasy |
| 12:21.51 | orionshock | but for those idiots doing surgery in trunk won't piss of the end users with pissed up broken code |
| 12:22.00 | orionshock | that is if files pulls from /tags |
| 12:22.03 | Grum | and basicly saying: trunk will always be stable |
| 12:22.13 | cncfanatics | it will never be with all different devs around |
| 12:22.16 | cncfanatics | never ever, not achievable |
| 12:22.23 | Grum | oh it can actually |
| 12:22.33 | nevcairiel | thats why the next version of the page will not mark trunk as stable |
| 12:22.43 | Grum | and what if you dont ahve t ags? |
| 12:22.46 | Grum | people can not download your addon? |
| 12:22.51 | nevcairiel | sure they can |
| 12:22.51 | Mikk | correct |
| 12:22.54 | Mikk | well as beta they can |
| 12:22.59 | nevcairiel | but it'll always say "alpha" or "beta" |
| 12:23.01 | Mikk | but it won't show up on the stable page |
| 12:23.05 | Grum | lol |
| 12:23.15 | Grum | so what are you doing to use as name for the 'stable' release? |
| 12:23.16 | cryogen | one thing for sure is it will require a culture change for some people |
| 12:23.22 | Grum | or for different versions of stable releases? |
| 12:23.37 | cncfanatics | lil question, will you guys make zips for betas & alphas too ? |
| 12:23.45 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: probably yes |
| 12:23.56 | Grum | the fun part is, people are now working around a problem that can be solved if normal code-changes would be done in branches keepign trunk stable |
| 12:24.00 | Grum | quite funny |
| 12:24.12 | Mikk | thing is |
| 12:24.13 | Grum | (and stupid imho) |
| 12:24.19 | Mikk | we're using svn ass backward right now |
| 12:24.23 | Grum | yup |
| 12:24.28 | Mikk | trunk is allowed to break in every normal environment |
| 12:24.28 | Grum | having trunk/addonname is stupid as well |
| 12:24.31 | Mikk | it's bleeding edge |
| 12:24.34 | cryogen | Grum: thats just an alternative, its not The One True Way(tm) |
| 12:24.37 | nevcairiel | the usual practive in svn is, that trunk should always be the dev version |
| 12:24.42 | nevcairiel | and stables have to go into tags |
| 12:24.43 | Grum | Mikk: you have never ever worked with multiple people on a project have you? |
| 12:24.47 | Mikk | lol |
| 12:25.00 | cryogen | nevcairiel: s/the/a/ |
| 12:25.01 | Mikk | how little you know |
| 12:25.25 | Mikk | i only run a shop with 40 devs, supporting as many as 10 consecutive branches of security sensitive software |
| 12:25.27 | Grum | not having trunk stable means more 'overhead' in any way |
| 12:25.55 | Mikk | on a product that's marketed worldwide |
| 12:25.58 | Mikk | and has been for 10 years |
| 12:26.05 | Mikk | so yeah i've been around the block |
| 12:26.15 | Grum | so you know it adds extra overhead |
| 12:26.30 | Mikk | having major blocking surgery done on trunk is a bad idea yeah |
| 12:26.31 | nevcairiel | svn is a development platform, not a release platform, noone should ever expect trunk to be stable |
| 12:26.32 | Grum | but likely you have spend time to make things that 'help' you with that so it isn't as annoying |
| 12:26.47 | Grum | nevcairiel: so why have branches? |
| 12:26.48 | Mikk | then you tend to want to branch |
| 12:27.00 | nevcairiel | Grum: major breakage should not be done in trunk either |
| 12:27.04 | Mikk | branches are two things |
| 12:27.07 | Grum | Mikk: branch for *every* code-change |
| 12:27.15 | Mikk | 1. Somewhere to do major surgery |
| 12:27.24 | Mikk | 2. Supported old versions of the software |
| 12:27.35 | Mikk | 2 is in practice never used for freeware |
| 12:27.39 | Mikk | you just go "upgrade st00pid" |
| 12:27.40 | Grum | yup |
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| 12:27.48 | Grum | but for 'real' software it is |
| 12:27.52 | Mikk | yes |
| 12:28.00 | Grum | and then you want any bugfix in a branch as well |
| 12:28.06 | cncfanatics | you do ? :o |
| 12:28.06 | Mikk | yes |
| 12:28.09 | nevcairiel | but we dont run real software here |
| 12:28.10 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:28.10 | Grum | so you can merge that will any of the old-branches |
| 12:28.32 | Mikk | you'll normally find the oldest version with the bug, do the fix there, and then apply the same changeset to all consecutive branches |
| 12:28.37 | Grum | Mikk: so what do you use trunk for? ;)) |
| 12:28.43 | Mikk | some times you can do the fix in trunk and merge backwards too but that tends to be a bit meh |
| 12:28.51 | Grum | Mikk: use SVK |
| 12:28.54 | Mikk | trunk is used for all nonbreaking dev, which is 90%+ |
| 12:28.56 | Grum | svk can actually do that ;) |
| 12:29.05 | Grum | Mikk: documentation changes ? |
| 12:29.21 | Mikk | wait what are we talking about now |
| 12:29.57 | Grum | what is the advantage of using trunk for 'non breaking dev' (and what do you class as nonbreaking dev) over using a branch? |
| 12:30.11 | Mikk | not having to branch for every code change you make |
| 12:30.22 | Mikk | which is a much bigger pita than having to tag when you want to release |
| 12:30.24 | Grum | which is bad in what way? |
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| 12:30.58 | Mikk | branching for every code change you make kinda make changesets pointless |
| 12:31.04 | nevcairiel | i've been working on various open source and community projects myself, and everywhere trunk was the base dev version, and releases where simply tagged |
| 12:31.09 | nevcairiel | thats the easies way imho |
| 12:31.13 | Grum | one of the downsides i've seen as releasemanager is that you can not cherrypick your changesets unless you do any change in a branch |
| 12:31.37 | cryogen | which is why i wish SVN had jobs like perforce does |
| 12:31.39 | cryogen | <3 jobs |
| 12:31.47 | Mikk | myeah |
| 12:31.52 | Grum | which you really want to .. because if you are making a release with 10 fixes odds that one of the 10 is broken or causing a problem |
| 12:32.03 | Mikk | tho cherrypicking jobs/changesets has a tendency to break either way |
| 12:32.14 | Grum | depends on your quality asurement |
| 12:32.40 | orionshock | Grum: our QA is the end user :P |
| 12:32.43 | Mikk | either because the merger just hates you, or because you thought you could disable that one changeset, but in fact it depended on changes done in another changeset |
| 12:32.46 | Grum | if you make sure any branch checks out (documentation/tests/codestyle) changes of breaking minimize unless you actually change the api another change is using |
| 12:33.16 | nevcairiel | i think this discussion really doesnt apply to the original topic anymore :shrug: |
| 12:33.16 | Grum | Mikk: where with branches you can branch branches to allow your code to depend on the api-change being done |
| 12:33.32 | Grum | nevcairiel: it still does |
| 12:33.39 | Grum | because if you only use branches for your code-changes |
| 12:33.40 | Mikk | you still can't cherrypick tho :P |
| 12:33.44 | Grum | you can |
| 12:33.57 | Grum | because you can select which branches to merge |
| 12:34.03 | orionshock | professional method =/= whats going to work here at wowace |
| 12:34.12 | Grum | and if you cant - start using SVK - that one can actuallu do it properly |
| 12:34.41 | Grum | orionshock: the upside of 'professional method' is that it is designed as the least overhead |
| 12:34.49 | Mikk | bleh.. either way.. perforce ftw when you get up to that level of complexity |
| 12:34.54 | Grum | because you want low development-cycle costs |
| 12:35.00 | orionshock | and it seems like it's the most complicated |
| 12:35.06 | Grum | not at all |
| 12:35.16 | Mikk | it has a protocol that you must follow yes |
| 12:35.18 | Grum | its just that SVN sucks by default with merging code |
| 12:35.20 | Mikk | you can't take shortcuts |
| 12:35.26 | Grum | Mikk: you can |
| 12:35.36 | Grum | you cna push changes into 'stable' (if that is a tag or trunk doesnt matter) |
| 12:35.39 | Grum | (or branch) |
| 12:35.47 | nevcairiel | either way, wowace will use stable, beta, alpha, and trunk wont be stable, if you decide to do all dev in your stable repo, go for it. |
| 12:36.07 | Mikk | humm |
| 12:36.07 | Grum | nevcairiel: then allow for 'trunk' to be stable unless you have a stable |
| 12:36.17 | Grum | else you will see a lot of addons break |
| 12:36.24 | nevcairiel | so they will |
| 12:36.28 | Grum | sigh |
| 12:36.36 | Mikk | well dur it's only a matter of tagging whatever was in trunk on export |
| 12:36.36 | Grum | ~taser nevcairiel |
| 12:36.37 | purl | ACTION stuns nevcairiel with a taser, then drags nevcairiel out into the middle of highway 666 |
| 12:36.47 | Mikk | and then nothing breaks |
| 12:36.50 | orionshock | ... Grum there is plenty of broken addons there now.... |
| 12:37.02 | Grum | yes but this change will make *EVERY* addon Beta |
| 12:37.03 | nevcairiel | the problem right now is, that users think everything on the files page is a stable addon |
| 12:37.06 | cncfanatics | Mikk, nevcairiel, why not autotag every latest release as stable by default when you do those changes ? so no addons will not have a file release |
| 12:37.10 | nevcairiel | Grum: which they are :P |
| 12:37.21 | Mikk | cncfanatics: of course, that's what i'm saying |
| 12:37.33 | nevcairiel | Grum: authors that care, can just run *ONE* svn command and get a stable |
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| 12:37.38 | Grum | nevcairiel: lets just say that my addon is not and therefor its way more work for me to keep tagging crap for no reason whatsoever |
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| 12:37.58 | Mikk | i fail to see how "svn cp" is more work than merging |
| 12:38.06 | nevcairiel | Grum: like i said, if you really want to, just commit everything directly to your stable repo *shrug |
| 12:38.10 | cncfanatics | can't you set a tag to *latest* ? |
| 12:38.12 | orionshock | Grum: so tag every 2 weeks when there has been somethign significant |
| 12:38.24 | Grum | cncfanatics: so for every bugfix i have to apply a tag? |
| 12:38.34 | cncfanatics | I mean, ain't there some way to tag so it always picks the latest rev |
| 12:38.36 | Grum | sure, you will just see the revision counter skyrocket with that change |
| 12:38.56 | Mikk | OHNOES THE COUNTER GOES UP!!!!11111 |
| 12:39.00 | Mikk | gifv valid arguments :P |
| 12:39.03 | Grum | actually that is a problem |
| 12:39.07 | nevcairiel | how so? |
| 12:39.12 | Grum | with the current repository layout |
| 12:39.21 | nevcairiel | every addon will have its own repo when that change comes |
| 12:39.23 | Mikk | with this change, every addon will have its own repo |
| 12:39.24 | nevcairiel | so its own counter |
| 12:39.28 | Grum | lets say with 50k revisions it's not getting any faster (actually quite fekking slow) |
| 12:39.30 | orionshock | nevcairiel: "your stable repo" -- you impliying that each addon will have it's own svn trunk / branch / tag? |
| 12:39.36 | nevcairiel | orionshock: yes |
| 12:39.46 | orionshock | finaly - any eta on that? |
| 12:39.49 | cncfanatics | thats GREAT |
| 12:39.49 | Mikk | no |
| 12:39.57 | nevcairiel | when Kaelten is done with the management backend :) |
| 12:39.59 | orionshock | damn :( |
| 12:40.01 | Mikk | spank kaelten |
| 12:40.02 | Mikk | or rather |
| 12:40.02 | nevcairiel | thats all ETA you get |
| 12:40.08 | Mikk | spank curse |
| 12:40.11 | Mikk | for keeping him too busy |
| 12:40.21 | baer_ | omfg. |
| 12:40.28 | Mikk | their servers are playing pingpong lately |
| 12:40.42 | orionshock | imho, shank the wowaceSVN ; move everythign to googlecode, and have a site that consolidates everything |
| 12:40.51 | Mikk | yuck |
| 12:40.52 | Mikk | yuckyuck |
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| 12:41.44 | orionshock | author comes to wowace, registeres the addon name, where the stable release & Beta is, and every 24hrs it complies a zip |
| 12:42.21 | Industrial | the problem with google code is assuming everyone gets their own repo |
| 12:42.25 | Industrial | that its very hard to track |
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| 12:42.35 | Industrial | ofc the bandwidth is free |
| 12:42.37 | orionshock | Industrial: nope not hard at all |
| 12:42.54 | haste | harder* :3 |
| 12:42.55 | orionshock | it's entirely up to the author to keep the filesite profile for his addon up to date |
| 12:42.55 | Industrial | im already having trouble with everyone's repo in #dongle so |
| 12:42.56 | Industrial | :P |
| 12:43.32 | Industrial | I agree on that |
| 12:43.35 | orionshock | the author / project manager is responsible for keeping their own google code project going |
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| 12:44.08 | Industrial | orionshock: and update the zips on wow sites like wowinterface? |
| 12:44.09 | orionshock | no worrying about random people phooking up code, translators putzing with it |
| 12:44.09 | Trell_ | is that grindfu one of those addons that says how long it'll take you to hit next level on your current mobs xp rate? |
| 12:44.17 | Mikk | good thing about having it on wowace is e.g. being able to give a "trustees" group access to most probjects |
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| 12:44.19 | Mikk | and translators |
| 12:44.38 | Industrial | Mikk: you can add people to your project though on google code |
| 12:44.40 | orionshock | Industrial: no, the files site pull down every ?hrs if there is an update |
| 12:44.48 | orionshock | Mikk: Email - it works |
| 12:44.51 | Mikk | Industrial: mmm but not globally-defined groups |
| 12:44.53 | Industrial | orionshock: meh I guess thats possible |
| 12:45.00 | Industrial | orionshock: you can even host the files on google code |
| 12:45.02 | nevcairiel | orionshock: new svn layout will have per-repo permissions as well, by default only you have access, and you can allow others. |
| 12:45.30 | cncfanatics | hmmm, only a new zip every 24h ? couldn't we trigger a new zip generating manualy for major fixes ? |
| 12:45.37 | Industrial | orionshock: and just make them indexable in the zip site :D |
| 12:45.39 | orionshock | nevcairiel: but by doing that - as we allready know - it puts more cost on the management of it by the site |
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| 12:46.23 | orionshock | cncfanatics: -- it's irrelavent tbh, it's a site method. |
| 12:47.18 | orionshock | and ofc nevcairiel the next question is "does the bennifit of the new method out weigh the cost of it on management?" |
| 12:48.14 | orionshock | sorry for being radical.... and i'll be quiet now |
| 12:48.20 | orionshock | nn everyone |
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| 12:57.15 | Codayus | omg, char copy worked |
| 12:57.19 | Codayus | *falls over* |
| 12:57.22 | Gngsk | congrats, ptr is a blast |
| 12:58.15 | Gngsk | just wish the G15 would recognize the test client :X |
| 13:04.03 | xyu | anyone use the revolution mouse? i want to get it. been teetering over buying it |
| 13:08.12 | sb | xyu: yup, here |
| 13:09.03 | sb | i like it :o but if you have your computer under the desk, be sure to get an usb extension (for your transmitter) |
| 13:10.05 | sb | in wow i can use 2+2 buttons + 3 more with keybinding (left scroll wheel) |
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| 13:30.25 | charon | anyone in here use Sanity2? seems it "forgets" about the items in my bank every so often and only displays like a third of them :( |
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| 13:37.23 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 13:37.24 | CIA-12 | - ZA update |
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| 13:42.08 | Mecdemort | are there any other mini-unit icons besides resting, in combat, pvp, and raid icon? |
| 13:42.20 | Gngsk | master loot |
| 13:42.30 | Mecdemort | ah right, master loot and leader |
| 13:43.16 | Mecdemort | so 6 for player 4 for others? |
| 13:43.55 | nevcairiel | imho all but resting can be on others |
| 13:44.03 | Gngsk | I'm at a loss as to why changing IsMounted("player") with ItemRack_PlayerMounted() breaks itemrack's mount event |
| 13:44.10 | Gngsk | seems to do the same thing |
| 13:44.12 | Mecdemort | i dont think you can check if a unit is in combat |
| 13:44.18 | nevcairiel | you can |
| 13:44.19 | Gngsk | return 1 if mounted else return nil |
| 13:44.24 | nevcairiel | UnitAffectingCombat |
| 13:44.25 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 13:44.42 | Mecdemort | is there an event? |
| 13:44.59 | Balstor | PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLE |
| 13:45.07 | nevcairiel | thats for player only =P |
| 13:45.08 | Mecdemort | ya for player, but for others |
| 13:45.14 | cncfanatics | no event for others |
| 13:45.15 | pinchet | do most of the commits that are on the files list right now work on the ptr? or is there a special list of mods that are updated for that |
| 13:45.28 | cncfanatics | you could check on a timer and trigger an event manualy, but thats quite some overhead |
| 13:45.45 | Mecdemort | ya i refuse to do any OnUpdate checks |
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| 13:46.01 | cncfanatics | I usualy refuse too, but I have to in some cases :( |
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| 13:46.06 | nevcairiel | pinchet: there is no list, and generally, for PTR there will be none, just test, and what doesnt work .. well, inform the author and hope for a fix until 2.3 goes live |
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| 13:46.10 | cncfanatics | (like, range checks have to be done OnUpdate) |
| 13:46.21 | pinchet | okay cool, thanks |
| 13:46.48 | Mecdemort | do all the bars use OnUpdate to grey out of range abilities? |
| 13:46.57 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 13:47.03 | cncfanatics | as far as I know there is no other way |
| 13:47.20 | cncfanatics | I think some also use OnUpdate for usability checks, but that can be done with events |
| 13:47.23 | nevcairiel | as long as you keep the OnUpdate small and clean, there is no real harm |
| 13:47.42 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, u check usability on update or with evetns ? |
| 13:47.53 | nevcairiel | update |
| 13:47.56 | cncfanatics | why not with events ? |
| 13:47.56 | nevcairiel | events are not 100% accurate |
| 13:48.09 | cncfanatics | hmmm, on what stuff could you not use an event ? |
| 13:48.29 | Mecdemort | from most of the code i've seen, OnUpdates and Globals are just horribly misused |
| 13:49.09 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, I managed to do all usable checks on events and seems to work fine, wonder if I missed any rare cases |
| 13:49.30 | nevcairiel | i check for range in onupdate anyway, its just one if more to check for the usability |
| 13:49.48 | nevcairiel | plus i remember there was some weirdness going on |
| 13:50.28 | cncfanatics | can't notice any, and well, the way my highlighting system works it'd be a pain to check for usability on onupdate too (each time a highlight is set it checks its priority and finds out what highlight has to be shown with table.sort), don't want to call it too often |
| 13:51.18 | nevcairiel | mine is simpler :) |
| 13:51.29 | nevcairiel | and tbh, would be a bitch to seperate it from the range check |
| 13:51.42 | nevcairiel | since both use vertex coloring of the button |
| 13:51.51 | cncfanatics | hehe, I wrote a priority handler for that |
| 13:52.01 | cncfanatics | I can have multiple checks on a button and fb will figure what one to show |
| 13:52.06 | Mecdemort | onupdate is called per frame so like 30+ times a second right? |
| 13:52.22 | cncfanatics | if u have 20FPS its called 20 times per second |
| 13:52.26 | cncfanatics | its caleld each frame |
| 13:52.35 | Mecdemort | right |
| 13:52.36 | cncfanatics | usualy a timer of 0.3 sec is more then enough |
| 13:52.46 | cncfanatics | instead of using OnUpdate use a timer on a short time, way less cpu |
| 13:53.04 | Mecdemort | doesnt a timer just use onupdate too |
| 13:53.11 | Balstor | yhea when your screen repaints, you can code it though so it updates in a less repaint dependant manner (aka cap the maximum number of times it updates) |
| 13:53.31 | cncfanatics | ofc Mecdemort |
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| 13:53.43 | cncfanatics | but, you do a conditional check wether enough time has passed to rerun ur checking code or not |
| 13:53.50 | Mecdemort | right |
| 13:54.16 | cncfanatics | a timer library is handy for that |
| 13:54.21 | Trell_ | never noticed tourguide added waypoints too |
| 13:54.24 | Trell_ | thats quite sexy |
| 13:54.29 | Balstor | I did that to mine so people can throttle the updates, a timer could update the UI multiple times between screen repaints causeing even more delay when the system is in a heavy fps delay |
| 13:54.39 | nevcairiel | i have a custom limit on my OnUpdate too, its not running every frame.. :) |
| 13:55.35 | cncfanatics | Balstor, 0.3 sec timer , u'd need to have less then 3FPS ... |
| 13:55.50 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, how u do it ? just a timer or something more advanced ? |
| 13:55.55 | Mecdemort | i cant really think of anything that should be more than 10 times a second, and even that is a bit much |
| 13:56.10 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: nah, i simple homebrew timer on the OnUpdate script :P |
| 13:56.54 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, why not just a timer lib then ? |
| 13:56.59 | Balstor | in certain heavy spell animation effets with a full screen transparency(some transparent type crystal covering my screen) yhea I can dip fairly low |
| 13:57.23 | Balstor | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_OnUpdate_correct |
| 13:57.23 | cncfanatics | hmmm I'm thinking |
| 13:57.30 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: why use it? :) OnUpdate already provides the "elapsed", just adding up those until i hit my intended delay. . smallest ever! |
| 13:57.38 | cncfanatics | conspiracy timer thingy was fancy |
| 13:57.39 | Balstor | has example code to throttle on the onupdate code |
| 13:57.43 | cncfanatics | you could specify a range |
| 13:58.05 | cncfanatics | it'd run faster/slower depending on ur speed |
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| 13:59.34 | Balstor | well it never needs to run faster than your current fps for changing the appearance of anything on screen |
| 13:59.55 | Trell_ | Tekkub, you here? |
| 14:00.02 | Trell_ | or anyone that uses his/her TourGuide |
| 14:00.19 | Balstor | and in certain cases i would imagine people would want at least a 30 fps update rate |
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| 14:00.55 | cryogen | cncfanatics: usability still isnt working for forms or taxi btw :p |
| 14:01.49 | Gngsk | is there an event that fires when you mount? |
| 14:02.01 | Balstor | cnc where is that timer in your code (evil grin) |
| 14:02.22 | Fisker- | sedatedChipmunk |
| 14:02.25 | Fisker- | how do i spam you? |
| 14:03.13 | Balstor | muhahah found it |
| 14:04.13 | cryogen | is grimtotem spying still bugged? |
| 14:04.27 | *** part/#wowace Fjotte (n=clausa@0x50a458ca.hsnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 14:05.29 | cncfanatics | cryogen, updated recently ? |
| 14:05.29 | xyu | hm can't get proximo to show >< |
| 14:05.32 | cncfanatics | it sure is now |
| 14:05.39 | Gngsk | the gc changes on test seem to make a big difference |
| 14:05.55 | cncfanatics | Balstor, EventManager.lua, I should add a slashcommand to change the update time rly |
| 14:06.48 | Balstor | I going to play with diffrent values and see if i can even tell the difference |
| 14:07.02 | cncfanatics | for a warr, prolly not |
| 14:07.10 | cncfanatics | but a mage thats walking towards a mob till his button lights up will |
| 14:07.25 | Balstor | I know for my swing timer (which is animated) matching the fps is a pretty big thing to makeing it look good |
| 14:08.58 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51865 10Decursive/localization.cn.lua: |
| 14:08.58 | CIA-12 | Decursive: |
| 14:08.58 | CIA-12 | - updated zhCN translation |
| 14:11.00 | Balstor | cnc off to breakfast be back in bit ( got to get ready for LSU (college football)) |
| 14:13.21 | cncfanatics | and I'm going to take a good bath |
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| 14:14.30 | Funkeh` | hey |
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| 14:22.38 | CIA-12 | 03celellach * r51866 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 14:22.38 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 14:22.38 | CIA-12 | - small fix |
| 14:22.41 | Funkeh` | Saroz, was there a reason you changed the sync to concat? Its supposed to work jsut fine. |
| 14:25.40 | CIA-12 | 03celellach * r51867 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 14:25.40 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 14:25.40 | CIA-12 | - Recolored Deadmines and Wailing sets to fit 2.3 |
| 14:26.59 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51868 10BigWigs/ZulAman/BigWigs_ZulAman.toc: BigWigs: utf - 8 |
| 14:35.28 | Fisker- | http://i23.tinypic.com/qzfceb.jpg |
| 14:35.32 | Fisker- | wtb 36-bag slots |
| 14:35.34 | Fisker- | 36-slot bags |
| 14:36.33 | dodga | hm, that is a lot of gold :D |
| 14:39.23 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51869 10sRaidFrames/ (locales/zhCN.lua sRaidFrames.toc): |
| 14:39.23 | CIA-12 | sRaidFrames: |
| 14:39.23 | CIA-12 | - zhCN updated |
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| 14:50.31 | BankZ | Does the autobar docking option work? |
| 14:50.34 | BankZ | doesnt seem to for me |
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| 14:53.26 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51870 10sRaidFrames/locales/zhCN.lua: |
| 14:53.26 | CIA-12 | sRaidFrames: |
| 14:53.26 | CIA-12 | - Fixed zhCN |
| 14:53.45 | Saroz | Funkeh`: "pplayer"? |
| 14:53.55 | Saroz | .. as in.. a string |
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| 14:56.33 | CIA-12 | 03Tristan * r51871 10Enhancer/ (Console.lua bonus/EP.lua locale/Localization-enUS.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:56.33 | CIA-12 | Enhancer: |
| 14:56.33 | CIA-12 | - Added calculated bonuses to some procs of common items: |
| 14:56.33 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.33 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.35 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.37 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.56 | Xinhuan | SPAM from cia |
| 14:57.06 | Xinhuan | why can't he just put all those items on 1line |
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| 15:02.01 | sag_ich_nicht | WHAT |
| 15:02.02 | sag_ich_nicht | http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/3367/ |
| 15:03.05 | Xinhuan | old news |
| 15:03.21 | Trell_ | aimed shot getting mortal strike effect? |
| 15:03.30 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 15:03.36 | Xinhuan | we're calling it MS shot on /g now |
| 15:04.02 | baer_ | oO |
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| 15:06.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:03] <Xinhuan> old news <--no |
| 15:07.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: killing the deadzone isn't "old news" |
| 15:07.12 | sag_ich_nicht | it's fucking news |
| 15:07.13 | Xinhuan | its been pasted here at least 6 times over the last 15 hours |
| 15:07.18 | Xinhuan | so its old :) |
| 15:07.18 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51872 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Buffalo2: Some attempt on retaining expired buffs |
| 15:07.18 | sag_ich_nicht | oh fuck you |
| 15:07.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 15:08.12 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51873 10Buffalo2/containers/Target.lua: Buffalo2: Fixed Target container |
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| 15:11.42 | reiser | hello |
| 15:12.11 | reiser | one question - can i set all bars in omen to be black ? |
| 15:12.18 | sag_ich_nicht | probably. |
| 15:12.20 | reiser | except mine, i wanna that one to be red |
| 15:12.30 | Xinhuan | probably not. |
| 15:12.39 | Tornhoof | probably by changing the source |
| 15:12.56 | reiser | then |
| 15:13.08 | reiser | any1 probably know what file contains color code ? |
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| 15:51.33 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51874 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 15:51.33 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 15:51.33 | CIA-12 | - ZA update |
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| 16:01.56 | CIA-12 | 03ixchael * r51875 10Historian/ (embeds.xml libs/): |
| 16:01.56 | CIA-12 | Historian: |
| 16:01.56 | CIA-12 | - Fixed library dependencies so the addon can be run stand-alone. |
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| 16:15.56 | baer_ | hmm... |
| 16:16.09 | baer_ | is there a way to publicate CCbreaker into /rw? :-) |
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| 16:26.50 | Balstor | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.37 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51876 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ZulAmanBeta.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/ZulAmanBeta: fix nub error |
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| 16:44.00 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r51877 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: |
| 16:44.00 | CIA-12 | AutoTurnin: |
| 16:44.00 | CIA-12 | - "fix" the error introduced by cossy by changing the file encoding of AutoTurninGlobals.lua back to UTF-8 |
| 16:44.00 | CIA-12 | - updated zhTW localization |
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| 16:51.53 | sylvanaar | omg it says my char copy to the test realm failed |
| 16:52.35 | Mudkips | owned |
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| 16:53.48 | sylvanaar | its been pending for 24 hours |
| 16:53.57 | cncfanatics | owned :) |
| 16:54.36 | sylvanaar | happen to you? |
| 16:56.05 | samwise | im trying it for days and the server refuses, because everone wants to copy |
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| 16:58.15 | NightHawkTheSane | same. i've been consistently getting "queue is full" or "server is busy" or, on the last step "there was an error processing your copy" |
| 16:58.54 | Mudkips | I saw someone said "every nub is trying to get get on the PTR to play with epix " |
| 16:59.01 | Mudkips | --get |
| 16:59.24 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r51878 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: BossBlock: 2.3.0 compat fix. |
| 16:59.25 | NightHawkTheSane | people who say that annoy me, because they usually ARE said noobs. |
| 16:59.35 | ulic | that doesn't make sense, since there are no pre-mades yet. |
| 16:59.44 | Chompers | i want to try out ZA and learn the tactics |
| 16:59.56 | Chompers | isn't that what everyone else wants? |
| 17:00.10 | ulic | no, I want to try out guild banks. But they aren't enabled yet. |
| 17:00.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, I want to check out the shaman talent changes, possibly the warrior ones too |
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| 17:05.13 | Codayus | I wouldn't mind wandering through some lowbie dungeons, outdoor elite areas, and maybe talk to some quest givers... |
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| 17:05.23 | Codayus | See how those changes are working. They need testing too. |
| 17:05.27 | Codayus | :-) |
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| 17:11.20 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r51879 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: BossBlock: Proper 2.3 fix. |
| 17:13.22 | ulic | I read someplace that rogues or druids could sneak in an hear which play you had in kara. is that still possible? |
| 17:15.10 | hyperChipmunk | as long as there isn't a locked door in the way, an elf hunter can |
| 17:15.31 | Hjalte | ulic, you can just stand outside and not run in... |
| 17:17.59 | kenlyric|laptop | just bring your portal gun. |
| 17:18.05 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r51880 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:18.05 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:18.05 | CIA-12 | - Spell: updated zhTW localization |
| 17:18.05 | CIA-12 | - SpellTree: updated zhTW localization |
| 17:18.17 | Codayus | Mmm, what I wouldn't give for a portal gun in WoW.... |
| 17:18.28 | Codayus | :-) |
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| 17:27.06 | Lothaer | guys i got a question |
| 17:27.45 | charon | ~asktoask |
| 17:27.45 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 17:27.55 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:27.55 | charon | (yay, i got to use that macro too) |
| 17:28.24 | Lothaer | ok when i download With externals its supposed to use less memory correct |
| 17:29.07 | charon | no, not after the first garbage collection, but it will need less time to load |
| 17:29.13 | Codayus | Uh...no... A) Static memory use really isn't an issue. B) It'll be the same either way. |
| 17:29.15 | Chompers | *without |
| 17:29.31 | Lothaer | so what better to use WIth or Without? |
| 17:29.46 | charon | er, what i said is correct for _without_ externals (unpacked libs). damn. |
| 17:29.51 | Codayus | Without should give you slightly faster load times. |
| 17:30.20 | Lothaer | kk thanks |
| 17:30.49 | Codayus | With is good because you can just grab a single addon, and hey presto, it works. If you're planning on running lots of them (which you probably are, or why would you use WAU?), without externals is probably better. |
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| 17:32.12 | Lothaer | ok whcch setting will download all the libs aswell? |
| 17:32.19 | Lothaer | which* |
| 17:32.27 | Chompers | hmm, when i login everyone is named 'unknown' and i disconnect |
| 17:32.31 | NightHawkTheSane | just grab with externals |
| 17:32.43 | NightHawkTheSane | it's generally less painless |
| 17:33.09 | Lothaer | with is the one that downlodas all the lib folders though? |
| 17:33.14 | Codayus | "with externals" = "embed the libs I need into the addon folder" It's simple. |
| 17:33.15 | Chompers | i think it's addon related, has anyone had this happen? |
| 17:33.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Lothaer: yes, with externals will download all the libs in each addon |
| 17:34.11 | Lothaer | and without downloads them all individually k got it thats what happened |
| 17:34.13 | NightHawkTheSane | But, as noted, there's no difference in memeory usage, and only a very negligible amount of time saved when logging in. |
| 17:34.34 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51881 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Fix bugs relating to hooking note adding. Change hook to eventlistener. Added note deleting listener. Nodes will no longer be duplicated in routes. |
| 17:36.25 | siIentium | Lothaer: "automatic dependency download" gets you the needed libs as separate addons |
| 17:36.32 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51882 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 17:36.32 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 17:36.32 | CIA-12 | - ZA update |
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| 17:38.52 | Lothaer | sorry for all the questions its just that i did it so that all the libs etc were in individual folders and for some reason FuBar was downloaded so i deleted because i flat out wont use FuBar until Titan is good and dead so i deleted the FuBar folder then when i logged in all the addons erored and the reason was they couldnt find FuBar |
| 17:39.57 | siIentium | tbh those 2 options "automatic dependency download" and "with externals" could be combined into a single option for most users, as normally you only want one of those active |
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| 17:40.43 | siIentium | they couldnt find fubar or they couldnt find the fubarplugin lib? |
| 17:41.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Most likely the latter, although there are some FuBar plugin addons which do require Fubar itself. |
| 17:41.18 | siIentium | most addons with fubar support add icns to the minimap if fubar isnt installed, but they still use fubarplugin for that |
| 17:41.36 | siIentium | /s/icns/icons |
| 17:41.38 | Lothaer | they couldnt find FuBar |
| 17:42.00 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, some addons may have FuBar as a required dependancy |
| 17:42.02 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51883 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Fix lines drawn on the minimap/battlemap not hiding when disabling Routes. |
| 17:42.04 | Lothaer | i still had the FuBar lib, even though i dont use FuBar i just figured that the addons required it |
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| 17:43.19 | Lothaer | do Ace AddOns require the Ace folder to be present? |
| 17:43.27 | Lothaer | well Ace2 |
| 17:43.56 | NightHawkTheSane | They will all require some/most of the Ace2 Libraries, yes. |
| 17:44.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Not every addon requires every part of Ace2, however. |
| 17:44.35 | nymbia | clearly they should |
| 17:44.36 | Lothaer | so even though i use WITH externals the Ace2 folder itself is still going to be required |
| 17:44.45 | nymbia | no |
| 17:44.50 | Lothaer | thankyou |
| 17:46.55 | nymbia | i know this is a dumb question, but i'm gonna ask it anyway.... |
| 17:47.16 | Lothaer | the only dumb question is a question not asked |
| 17:47.16 | nymbia | why's there no distinction between fubar2 and fubar3 plugins |
| 17:47.48 | nymbia | $5 says the answer is 'ck didn't feel like it' |
| 17:48.01 | NightHawkTheSane | I wouldn't take that bet. :) |
| 17:48.02 | nevcairiel | right |
| 17:48.11 | durcyn | 3 is backwards compatible, shrug |
| 17:48.28 | Lothaer | just like the PS3 lol |
| 17:48.43 | nymbia | i just got my wow computer working for the first time in a month |
| 17:48.48 | durcyn | no, fubarplugin-2.0 addons load on fubar3 without issue. |
| 17:49.04 | nymbia | so i'm starting with getting what i had working again before i go anywhere near rock |
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| 17:50.07 | Kahlas | so what's up with the new autobar? |
| 17:50.09 | Kahlas | broken for anyone else? |
| 17:50.21 | NightHawkTheSane | its in a heavy state of development |
| 17:50.27 | Kahlas | aye, thought so |
| 17:50.27 | Kahlas | hmm |
| 17:50.35 | durcyn | if you want a stable version, snag a zip from http://code.google.com/p/autobar |
| 17:50.39 | NightHawkTheSane | but broken really isn't the right word |
| 17:50.42 | Kahlas | ah, will do, thanks |
| 17:50.48 | Kahlas | my config is probably hosed though :\ |
| 17:50.51 | durcyn | you can force WAU to ignore it for updates by creating an empty .svn directory in it |
| 17:50.57 | durcyn | your old savedvars should be intact, actually. |
| 17:51.21 | NightHawkTheSane | r51227 on the wowace repo is the last version before the major changes |
| 17:51.29 | NightHawkTheSane | and yes, old saved vars will remain intact. |
| 17:51.51 | Kahlas | ah, good news |
| 17:51.58 | Kahlas | new version seems cool... you just can't config it |
| 17:52.04 | Kahlas | i removed a button and the whole thing went solid green |
| 17:52.05 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, give it time |
| 17:52.50 | NightHawkTheSane | he can't really do major impovements without breaking a few things, so it'll probably be in a wonky state for a while. |
| 17:52.57 | Sirow | Is there an event that fires when player crits? |
| 17:53.00 | Kahlas | AutoBar2020215alpha.zip? |
| 17:53.12 | durcyn | ~seen tuller |
| 17:53.14 | purl | tuller is currently on #wowi-lounge (50m 36s) #wowace (50m 36s), last said: 'well that makes me feel better for not being on the PTR :)'. |
| 17:53.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Sirow: aside from standard combat/log events? i don't believe so |
| 17:53.17 | Kahlas | NightHawkTheSane, well, you generally make such changes without uploading them |
| 17:53.19 | Kahlas | until they are ready |
| 17:53.27 | Tuller | hrm, what did I do? |
| 17:53.29 | Kahlas | or partially ready anyway |
| 17:53.32 | Kahlas | but no worries |
| 17:53.32 | Sirow | ok thx |
| 17:53.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Kahlas: ... actually, subversion is precisely for such developments. :) |
| 17:53.40 | Kahlas | as long as i can get a version that works for the moment i'll be happy |
| 17:53.42 | Tuller | durcyn: ? |
| 17:53.51 | Kahlas | NightHawkTheSane, yes i knwo but most ace mods are updated that way |
| 17:53.58 | Kahlas | so it's not quite like your normal repository |
| 17:54.02 | many | iam under the impression i heard this discussion like five times within the last two weeks |
| 17:54.07 | Kahlas | most people run whatever is the latest |
| 17:54.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Kahlas: well, (and this has been rehashed a thousand times already) the way wowace uses subversion is ass backwards. |
| 17:54.18 | NightHawkTheSane | and blatantly wrong. :) |
| 17:54.19 | Lothaer | is there any difference between WAU and WAU Ad Free? |
| 17:54.21 | durcyn | Tuller: nothing =P OmniCC 2.0.5 causes PTR client to crash with an assertion failure, thought you might like to know |
| 17:54.23 | Kahlas | many, such is the life of someone who hangs out in a particular place for long periods of time : |
| 17:54.41 | durcyn | Tuller: .\CSimpleRender.cpp:1980, expr: texture |
| 17:54.43 | many | Kahlas: two weeks are no particular long time |
| 17:54.44 | Kahlas | NightHawkTheSane, hehe ok |
| 17:54.52 | many | (given i irc since 10 years) |
| 17:54.52 | Kahlas | many, well, i'm afraid you're gonna have to cope with it |
| 17:54.56 | Tuller | durcyn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366678932&sid=1 |
| 17:55.03 | durcyn | doh! |
| 17:55.12 | many | Kahlas: i didnt moan. |
| 17:55.26 | Lothaer | ill assume that every1 has seen the Epic Engineer Flying Mount and the I So Scared clips? |
| 17:55.32 | Lothaer | Im So Scared* |
| 17:55.43 | Kahlas | many, heh ok :) |
| 17:56.11 | Kahlas | i think i'll pull a working copy off my gf's pc |
| 17:56.19 | Kahlas | probably has some ancient version |
| 17:56.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Kahlas: like i said, you can just grab 51227 from files.wowace.com/AutoBar |
| 17:57.43 | Kahlas | ah, nice... didn't know you could grab older versions off there |
| 17:57.47 | Kahlas | thanks |
| 17:57.48 | Lothaer | woops Im So Sick***] |
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| 17:58.38 | Kahlas | has AutoBarConfig changed as well? |
| 17:58.52 | Lothaer | watch this movie http://wow.curse.com/videos/details/757/ |
| 17:58.57 | NightHawkTheSane | no, I think for the new version it's being deprecated. |
| 17:59.03 | Kahlas | and while we're on the subject of new mods... |
| 17:59.09 | Kahlas | has anyoen tried the new eePanels? |
| 17:59.25 | Lothaer | i liek the new Elkano's Buff Bar :) |
| 18:00.17 | Kahlas | hoorah! |
| 18:00.28 | Kahlas | old config stayed just fine :) |
| 18:01.02 | Lothaer | any here used RaidSpy? |
| 18:01.17 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r51884 10SimpleTradeskill/ (. Core.lua SimpleTradeskill.toc embeds.xml lib/): |
| 18:01.17 | CIA-12 | SimpleTradeskill: |
| 18:01.17 | CIA-12 | -Initial import. |
| 18:01.17 | CIA-12 | -Shows how many of a recipe you can make if you visit a vendor and visit your bank. |
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| 18:02.58 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51885 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Optimized Cartographer_Routes:OnEnable() a bit by getting rid of function closures. |
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| 18:03.17 | Lothaer | are there any mods that use GPSlib? |
| 18:03.25 | Lothaer | ie a simple co-ord mod |
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| 18:04.40 | Frollo | hello all |
| 18:04.50 | Frollo | is my text alright? |
| 18:04.50 | Silowyi | Good lord |
| 18:04.57 | Silowyi | my attack power on the test server is INSANE |
| 18:05.55 | Frollo | can anybody help me figgure out why some of my bartender 3 mods arn't showing up i have reinstalled petinfofu several tiems and it is present in my addon folder and in the mod list before i login however once i login the mod isn't showing up or available in rock |
| 18:07.49 | Lothaer | are there any mods that use GPSlib? |
| 18:08.08 | Frollo | not sure loth |
| 18:08.13 | Frollo | any ideas on my question? |
| 18:08.16 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r51886 10SimpleTradeskill/ (. embeds.xml lib/): SimpleTradeskill: Add externals and missed embed. |
| 18:08.30 | Lothaer | i dont use FuBar so i have no idea, i prefer Titan |
| 18:09.14 | Frollo | i used to use titan a ton but some of the fubar stuff was so appealign |
| 18:09.20 | Frollo | used it since fubar 1.0 lol |
| 18:09.52 | Lothaer | i tried FuBar but it didnt thrill me, and i have been helping keep Titan alive aswell |
| 18:10.02 | Frollo | ahh nice |
| 18:10.23 | Lothaer | ill continue to use it until its completely broken beyond my ability to repair |
| 18:10.33 | Lothaer | or if no1 else updates it :) |
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| 18:10.42 | Frollo | i havn't seen titan bar in a long time it might be better now but there are so many plugins and stuff for fubar plus the wowace updater = soooo leet |
| 18:11.24 | Lothaer | yeah i know, almost all Ace addons will plugin to FuBar, but thats one of the things i didnt like about it |
| 18:11.56 | Frollo | wish i could get this darn issue figgured out |
| 18:12.09 | Frollo | once 3.0 dropped some of the addons don't show up |
| 18:12.12 | Lothaer | so whats the problem, amybe i cna help |
| 18:12.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Lothaer: you can hide the plugin for most addons, you know. :P |
| 18:12.19 | CIA-12 | 03whitetooth * r51887 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 18:12.19 | CIA-12 | StatLogicLib: |
| 18:12.19 | CIA-12 | - In 2.3.0: Added Expertise stat support |
| 18:12.19 | CIA-12 | - In 2.3.0: Heart of the Wild (Druid Feral Combat talant) provides 2/4/6/8/10% bonus attack power in Cat form instead |
| 18:12.19 | CIA-12 | - In 2.3.0: Intensity (Druid Restoration talant) increased to 10/20/30% mana regeneration |
| 18:12.21 | CIA-12 | - In 2.3.0: Arcane Meditation (Mage Arcane talant) increased to 10/20/30% mana regeneratio |
| 18:12.21 | Lothaer | i do |
| 18:12.25 | CIA-12 | - In 2.3.0: Meditation (Priest Discipline talant) increased to 10/20/30% mana regeneration |
| 18:12.28 | Lothaer | BUT |
| 18:12.36 | *** join/#wowace Soulless (n=Fridgid@24.96.172.133) |
| 18:12.37 | Lothaer | if u jsut start using them |
| 18:13.06 | Lothaer | liek u download FuBar and you already use a shit load of Ace Addons, then they will all goto FuBar on first load |
| 18:13.09 | Soulless | how does one query melee stats like hit crit weapon skill etc |
| 18:13.11 | Soulless | i can' |
| 18:13.17 | Lothaer | and u have to spend a shit load of time getting it right |
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| 18:13.21 | Soulless | t get GetCombatRating to work |
| 18:13.37 | Lothaer | with titan only the default titan optiona are on and u just turn on the extras u want |
| 18:14.11 | Lothaer | IMHO FuBar should be like that |
| 18:14.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Lothaer: er.. don't take this the wrong way, but that's an absurd complaint. You may as well complain that if you download a bunch of titan plugins and then install titan you have to spend time configuring those how you like them too |
| 18:14.29 | Lothaer | it works both ways |
| 18:14.30 | Frollo | 15 00can anybody help me figgure out why some of my bartender 3 mods arn't showing up i have reinstalled petinfofu several tiems and it is present in my addon folder and in the mod list before i login however once i login the mod isn't showing up or available in rock01 |
| 18:14.31 | Lothaer | i know |
| 18:14.31 | CIA-12 | 03whitetooth * r51888 10RatingBuster/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:14.31 | CIA-12 | RatingBuster: 1.2.7 |
| 18:14.31 | CIA-12 | - NEW: Option to Show detail text for Resiliance and Experise conversions |
| 18:14.31 | CIA-12 | - NEW: Option to Show Avoidance Summary <- Dodge, Parry, MobMiss |
| 18:14.31 | CIA-12 | - NEW: TankPoints support, if you have TankPoints loaded you get 2 new summary options: TankPoints and Total Reduction |
| 18:14.33 | CIA-12 | - In 2.3.0: Added Expertise stat support |
| 18:14.37 | CIA-12 | - In 2.3.0: Heart of the Wild (Druid Feral Combat talant) provides 2/4/6/8/10% bonus attack power in Cat form instead |
| 18:14.42 | Lothaer | and i have a personal preference to Titan |
| 18:15.00 | Kahlas | hmm |
| 18:15.02 | Kahlas | i didn't like titan |
| 18:15.03 | Frollo | damn that ratings buster |
| 18:15.05 | Kahlas | not compared to fubar |
| 18:15.06 | NightHawkTheSane | And I'm not disagreeing that seeing a shitton of plugins for fubar on first login is a pain, but for most of them you often only have to do it once, as the prefs are saved globally |
| 18:15.10 | Kahlas | but i guess that's why it's nice to have options :) |
| 18:15.22 | Lothaer | plus (i could be wrong here so feel free to correct me) graphicly Titan is more adjustable |
| 18:15.34 | Frollo | any of u guys have any ideas on my issue |
| 18:15.37 | Kahlas | big thing for me is that fubar uses far less resources |
| 18:15.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Lothaer: in what way do you mean? fubar is fairly flexible |
| 18:15.38 | Kahlas | titan is a hog |
| 18:15.47 | Lothaer | ill show u |
| 18:15.53 | Lothaer | in a min lol |
| 18:15.56 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r51889 10SimpleTradeskill/Core.lua: SimpleTradeskill: Quick bugfix -- make sure GetReagentItemLink actually returned a link. |
| 18:16.17 | Lothaer | i mean, there are skin packages you can download for Titan to adjust the bar textures so ther enot just single tone |
| 18:16.26 | Lothaer | i dont think u can do that with Titan |
| 18:16.35 | Lothaer | but like i said |
| 18:16.42 | Lothaer | i dont use titan so i wouldnt know |
| 18:16.43 | NightHawkTheSane | you mean fubar? and yes, you can change the texture on it |
| 18:17.00 | Lothaer | other than just colours |
| 18:17.06 | Lothaer | actual textures? |
| 18:17.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, other than colors. I think there's a FuBar_Textures addon which adds a bunch of textures you can use |
| 18:17.42 | Lothaer | well i stand corrected |
| 18:17.43 | NightHawkTheSane | And there's nothing stopping you from hacking your own into that fairly simply, I'd imagine |
| 18:18.13 | Lothaer | with Titan its a simple matter of copy and paste |
| 18:18.21 | Lothaer | id assume its the same with fubar |
| 18:18.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, its probably not too complex. I'm not entirely sure, as I prefer a flat black color |
| 18:19.01 | Lothaer | yeah black does go with almost any setup lol |
| 18:19.03 | Lothaer | almsot |
| 18:19.15 | Lothaer | as black isnt a colour its a tone lol |
| 18:19.21 | Frollo | i make my fubar transparent lol |
| 18:19.23 | NightHawkTheSane | well, yes, technically. :P |
| 18:19.36 | NightHawkTheSane | But I don't tend to split color theory hairs. ;) |
| 18:19.40 | Frollo | no color ftw |
| 18:19.43 | Lothaer | lol |
| 18:19.54 | Lothaer | ok lets try and help Frollo with is problem know |
| 18:20.02 | Frollo | thanks :) |
| 18:20.02 | Frollo | 15 00can anybody help me figgure out why some of my bartender 3 mods arn't showing up i have reinstalled petinfofu several tiems and it is present in my addon folder and in the mod list before i login however once i login the mod isn't showing up or available in rock01 |
| 18:20.09 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, would have if i could, but i don't have any idea. :) |
| 18:20.20 | Lothaer | ok Frollo |
| 18:20.28 | Frollo | started with fubar 3.0 i believe |
| 18:20.30 | Lothaer | so id asume u have bartender 3 right |
| 18:20.40 | Frollo | yesir |
| 18:20.42 | Lothaer | probably a conflict |
| 18:20.50 | ZealotOnAStick | turn off the damn bold already. |
| 18:20.55 | Lothaer | i mean |
| 18:20.59 | Frollo | sorry i use trillian didn't know it was on :( |
| 18:21.18 | Lothaer | maybe Bartender3 etc hasnt been set up to recognise the presence of FuBar3 |
| 18:21.20 | Frollo | better? |
| 18:21.37 | Frollo | hmm |
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| 18:21.54 | Frollo | i was reading in the forums and it should be fully backwards compatible according to ckk |
| 18:21.58 | Lothaer | brb ill have a look |
| 18:21.59 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r51890 10SimpleTradeskill/Core.lua: SimpleTradeskill: Change to previous fix. |
| 18:22.16 | Frollo | most everythign works except for a few mods |
| 18:22.29 | Lothaer | yeah Bartender 3 is probably on tha tlist |
| 18:22.51 | Lothaer | so bartender 3 just wont show in fubar right? |
| 18:23.00 | Frollo | no fubar is workn |
| 18:23.07 | Frollo | it just wont' show a couple plugins for fubar |
| 18:23.12 | Lothaer | yeah i know |
| 18:23.17 | Frollo | like 95 percent of everything is working |
| 18:23.19 | Lothaer | u can tput Bartender 3 IN fubar |
| 18:23.32 | Lothaer | its wont go there right |
| 18:23.44 | Frollo | ? |
| 18:23.45 | Lothaer | u can just click "Bartender3" in FuBar because its not there |
| 18:23.50 | Lothaer | cant* |
| 18:24.00 | Lothaer | is that the problem? |
| 18:24.02 | Frollo | no |
| 18:24.03 | Frollo | 15 00can anybody help me figgure out why some of my bartender 3 mods arn't showing up i have reinstalled petinfofu several tiems and it is present in my addon folder and in the mod list before i login however once i login the mod isn't showing up or available in rock01 |
| 18:24.34 | mikma | what did you say? i missed that |
| 18:24.43 | [dRaCo] | yeah, I did, too. |
| 18:24.44 | Lothaer | can anybody help me figgure out why some of my bartender 3 mods arn't showing up i have reinstalled petinfofu several tiems and it is present in my addon folder and in the mod list before i login however once i login the mod isn't showing up or available in rock |
| 18:24.45 | Frollo | 15 00can anybody help me figgure out why some of my bartender 3 mods arn't showing up i have reinstalled petinfofu several times and it is present in my addon folder and in the mod list before i login however once i login the mod isn't showing up or available in rock01 |
| 18:24.48 | hyperChipmunk | I advise you not to do that again |
| 18:24.49 | [dRaCo] | white on white sucks. |
| 18:24.52 | *** kick/#wowace [Frollo!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (hyperChipmunk) |
| 18:25.10 | *** join/#wowace Frollo (n=Frollo@76-232-90-197.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:25.15 | mikma | Frollo: still didn't see it |
| 18:25.18 | mikma | Frollo: what was it? |
| 18:25.24 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 18:25.29 | Lothaer | read what i wrote |
| 18:25.30 | Frollo | if i say it again i will get kicked lol |
| 18:25.31 | Lothaer | its the same |
| 18:25.44 | mikma | i can't be sure unless he tells it again |
| 18:25.53 | Lothaer | u jsut want him to be kicked |
| 18:25.55 | Frollo | he just wantes me to get kicked |
| 18:25.57 | hyperChipmunk | say it in not-bold and you won't get kicked |
| 18:25.58 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 18:26.18 | NightHawkTheSane | well, it'd also be nice eto not spam the entire 4 lines that often, too. |
| 18:26.20 | mikma | of course i want him fucking kicked, he's an annoying idiot that uses bolds |
| 18:26.41 | Frollo | well sory dick cheese that i use trillian and it defaults to my default chat settings |
| 18:26.42 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r51891 10SimpleTradeskill/lib/: SimpleTradeskill: Fix malformed path for PT3 embed. |
| 18:26.53 | Frollo | i changed that as you can see |
| 18:26.55 | *** kick/#wowace [mikma!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (do not encourage the use of bold in this channel!) |
| 18:27.03 | Frollo | lol |
| 18:27.05 | Lothaer | lol |
| 18:27.12 | Frollo | hahaha |
| 18:27.13 | Lothaer | ok Frollo |
| 18:27.26 | Lothaer | so the problem is with Bartender or Petinfofu? |
| 18:27.38 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 18:27.39 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366678932&sid=1 |
| 18:27.47 | Frollo | the problem is that petinfo fu and bugbag arn't loading |
| 18:27.48 | sag_ich_nicht | sandbox crashes WoW once again on PTR :X |
| 18:28.07 | Lothaer | into fuabr right? or not at all? |
| 18:28.11 | Frollo | not at all |
| 18:28.16 | Frollo | they are installed and set to load |
| 18:28.19 | Kahlas | anyone know the command to send a hunter pet to attack? |
| 18:28.25 | Frollo | but when wow loads up they cannot be found |
| 18:28.27 | hyperChipmunk | /petattack |
| 18:28.31 | Frollo | control + f1? |
| 18:28.32 | Kahlas | awesome, thanks |
| 18:28.33 | Frollo | errr 1 |
| 18:28.48 | Frollo | ohh coading myb ad |
| 18:29.00 | Lothaer | huh? |
| 18:29.12 | Frollo | i answered chip's question incorrectly |
| 18:29.16 | Lothaer | kk |
| 18:29.20 | CIA-12 | 03sirow * r51892 10Avion/ (24 files in 9 dirs): |
| 18:29.20 | CIA-12 | Avion: |
| 18:29.20 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.20 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.44 | Lothaer | well ill assume that u have the dependancies turned on right? |
| 18:29.56 | Lothaer | and whats the command to ignore CIA-12? |
| 18:30.01 | Frollo | i update w/ externals to take care of dependancies |
| 18:30.06 | Lothaer | kk |
| 18:30.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Lothaer: /ignore |
| 18:30.14 | Mudkips | lol |
| 18:31.32 | Lothaer | not working |
| 18:31.39 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.55 | Kahlas | Lothaer, what irc client? |
| 18:32.01 | Lothaer | XChat |
| 18:32.18 | Frollo | ohh noez the cia is after you |
| 18:32.53 | Kahlas | there is an "ignore window" somewhere |
| 18:33.00 | Kahlas | that lets you control ignore rules |
| 18:33.41 | Kahlas | and you'll want to just add CIA-12!*@* |
| 18:33.52 | NightHawkTheSane | it's the standard irc hostmasking |
| 18:35.31 | Lothaer | ok i think i got it |
| 18:35.49 | Frollo | does ckk not hang out here much anymore? |
| 18:36.35 | Lothaer | ill get petinfofu and have a look ok |
| 18:36.52 | Frollo | it is fubar_petinfofu |
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| 18:37.02 | Lothaer | thx |
| 18:37.39 | Frollo | but it will probably work fine for you :) mine worked like a champ untill 3.0 came out now it won't load at all |
| 18:38.06 | Lothaer | were will i fond FuBar3? |
| 18:38.16 | Lothaer | find*\ |
| 18:38.22 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51893 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: ZulAman: Add Halazzi module |
| 18:38.22 | Frollo | if you use the wowaceupdater you can dl all the mods from there |
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| 18:38.35 | Lothaer | yeah but its only FuBar2 |
| 18:39.04 | Frollo | dunno if there is a fubar 3 yet |
| 18:39.07 | Frollo | i know there is bartender 3 |
| 18:39.27 | Lothaer | Bartender 3 isnt like fubar |
| 18:39.42 | Lothaer | u do know that right? |
| 18:39.42 | Frollo | i know |
| 18:39.50 | Frollo | i am using the regular fubar plugin |
| 18:39.53 | Frollo | not fubar2 |
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| 18:40.24 | Lothaer | ok so the problem is when u have Bartender 3 turned on petinfofu wont appearr in fubar correct? |
| 18:40.46 | Frollo | it isn't about bartender |
| 18:40.53 | Frollo | just that the module isn't loading up |
| 18:40.58 | Frollo | doesnt' matter what is enabled and what isn't |
| 18:41.10 | Frollo | some fubar plugins just won't start |
| 18:41.20 | Frollo | sorry i believe i was confising the issue with mentioning bartender3 |
| 18:41.31 | Lothaer | ok so lets forget bartender |
| 18:41.34 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r51894 10SimpleTradeskill/Core.lua: SimpleTradeskill: I hate having to check whether everything is nil. It's such a pain. |
| 18:41.40 | Antiarc | Eeeee |
| 18:41.43 | Antiarc | UT3 demo. :D |
| 18:41.51 | Antiarc | Go go torrent go! |
| 18:41.51 | Lothaer | and jsut concentrate on petinfofu and fubar |
| 18:42.07 | Lothaer | meh FPS games |
| 18:42.20 | Frollo | if you download just the fubar it is fubar3.0 |
| 18:42.35 | Antiarc | It's not just an FPS |
| 18:42.37 | Lothaer | ok then ill get fuabr and petinfofu and let u know k |
| 18:42.38 | Antiarc | It's UT |
| 18:42.48 | Frollo | try also bugbag |
| 18:42.51 | Mudkips | I still haven't bought orange box |
| 18:42.55 | Mudkips | something is wrong here |
| 18:43.01 | Lothaer | UT, Counter Strike, Quake, Doom, Duke Nukem all the same shit |
| 18:43.03 | Mudkips | oh eyah |
| 18:43.08 | Mudkips | I don't have the money for it |
| 18:43.10 | Mudkips | that's righ! |
| 18:43.19 | Antiarc | I keep meaning to buy the orange box. |
| 18:43.21 | Antiarc | Just haven't yet. |
| 18:43.34 | Mudkips | ( Lothaer ) UT, Counter Strike, Quake, Doom, Duke Nukem all the same shit |
| 18:43.37 | Mudkips | what's your point? |
| 18:43.56 | Mudkips | cuz say the same about every RPG out there |
| 18:44.00 | Lothaer | there all the same style of game just point and shoot |
| 18:44.05 | Lothaer | or spray and pray etc |
| 18:44.10 | Mudkips | thats what it does... |
| 18:44.17 | Mudkips | l o l |
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| 18:44.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 18:44.26 | Frollo | thank god ckk is here |
| 18:44.31 | Lothaer | hey ckk |
| 18:44.36 | Antiarc | http://download.beyondunreal.com/fileworks.php/official/ut3/ut3_soundtrack_pre.zip <--- hawt |
| 18:44.38 | Frollo | we are having issues :) |
| 18:44.47 | Frollo | well by we i meen i and loth is trying to help |
| 18:45.03 | Antiarc | Hahaha |
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| 18:45.07 | Frollo | ROFL |
| 18:45.10 | Lothaer | ok logging in will let u know |
| 18:45.33 | Frollo | thx |
| 18:46.04 | Frollo | my issue is that when 3.0 hit some of my plugins quit loading up such as bugbag and petinfofu |
| 18:46.14 | Frollo | they are installed and activated but they will not load when wow loads |
| 18:47.30 | Silowyi | is there |
| 18:47.32 | Silowyi | an addon |
| 18:47.37 | Silowyi | that lets you optn a chat window |
| 18:47.44 | Silowyi | with your target? |
| 18:48.00 | Frollo | i havn't seen one so far |
| 18:48.07 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.16 | Frollo | lol |
| 18:48.20 | Mudkips | optn? |
| 18:48.22 | Silowyi | since so many stupid ass people like to take their tauren or bear form druid and grief everyone by sitting on the arena armor vendor |
| 18:48.42 | Frollo | if it helps silowyi you can use heyfu and it will logg all the convo w/ each person |
| 18:48.53 | Frollo | ohh |
| 18:49.06 | Frollo | they would just hit control +z or whatever to display names |
| 18:49.08 | Frollo | and click on the name |
| 18:49.16 | Mudkips | Pro tip ^ |
| 18:49.19 | Silowyi | you can do that? cool |
| 18:49.23 | Mudkips | -_- |
| 18:49.24 | Frollo | yeppers |
| 18:49.35 | Lothaer | well fubar isnt even showing atm |
| 18:49.38 | Mudkips | it does wonders on the battleground masters |
| 18:51.07 | Frollo | hmm loth |
| 18:51.13 | Lothaer | yeah |
| 18:51.14 | Frollo | do you have all the dependencies |
| 18:51.31 | Lothaer | yup yup |
| 18:51.48 | Frollo | well it should load |
| 18:51.52 | Frollo | i have the newest version |
| 18:52.08 | Frollo | it might load but just be empty because those mods arn't loading |
| 18:52.10 | Frollo | what do you think? |
| 18:52.21 | Frollo | do you still have titan enabled? |
| 18:52.33 | Lothaer | nope nopre |
| 18:52.44 | kebinusan | is it mendeleev that shows who drops what on item tooltips |
| 18:52.46 | Lothaer | went on my lvl 15 hunter only with Fubar and Petinfofu turned on |
| 18:53.03 | Frollo | whodrop i think |
| 18:53.13 | Frollo | atleast thats what i use keb |
| 18:53.14 | Lothaer | mendeleeve will show itemIDs |
| 18:54.01 | NightHawkTheSane | gah. Has anyone had issues copying from a pvp server to pve test server? |
| 18:54.12 | siIentium | [19:54:20] <Lothaer> is there any difference between WAU and WAU Ad Free? <- the ad free version doesnt generate any loss compensation for the server load and bandwidth used, dunno if there are any other differences |
| 18:54.13 | kebinusan | I have some mod installed that shows who drops what, but for heroic badges it lists every boss and the tooltip is a page long |
| 18:54.18 | Frollo | several people have |
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| 18:55.06 | kebinusan | I dont have a mod called whodrop tho |
| 18:55.11 | Frollo | ohh |
| 18:55.23 | Frollo | well i use whodrop and it lists who drops what when an item is linked :D |
| 18:58.58 | Lothaer | ok i got it |
| 18:59.08 | Frollo | to work or what is wrong? |
| 18:59.09 | Frollo | lol |
| 18:59.14 | Lothaer | and petinfofu is wiorking |
| 18:59.29 | Lothaer | u in game? |
| 18:59.34 | Frollo | yep |
| 18:59.41 | Lothaer | ok click on fubar |
| 18:59.47 | Lothaer | and a menu opens right |
| 19:00.06 | Frollo | k |
| 19:00.25 | Lothaer | at the top left corner click the drop down and select petinfofu |
| 19:00.41 | Lothaer | should be there |
| 19:00.42 | kebinusan | heres a screenshot http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4427/wowscrnshot101307145619jc7.jpg if anyone has an idea whats displaying all that information I dont need, Id appreciate the tip |
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| 19:01.17 | Hjalte | kebinusan, thats mendeleev |
| 19:01.23 | Frollo | yah thats what i was doing |
| 19:01.26 | Frollo | it doesn't show up in there |
| 19:01.42 | kebinusan | Hjalte: yeah I thought so too, but I cant seem to find the option to turn off the drop info |
| 19:02.19 | Hjalte | kebinusan, it's the instance loot part |
| 19:02.38 | Soulless | how can i query ranged crit chance? |
| 19:02.58 | Soulless | i cant get any of the GetCombatRating things to work |
| 19:03.26 | Lothaer | frollo, exit game delete Fubar and Fubarpetinfofu |
| 19:03.38 | Lothaer | delete ur savedvaribles |
| 19:03.41 | Lothaer | and reinstall |
| 19:03.47 | Lothaer | freshdownload |
| 19:04.01 | Lothaer | thats really all i can suggest |
| 19:04.04 | Lothaer | i got it working here |
| 19:04.20 | Frollo | yah thats what i was thinking :( i just didn't want to go through all the trouble of redoing everything |
| 19:04.32 | Lothaer | dont delete ur WTF folder |
| 19:04.41 | Lothaer | just goto ur characters savedvarialbes |
| 19:05.01 | Lothaer | and delete fubar.lua nd fubarpetinfo.lua if they exist |
| 19:05.43 | Frollo | will do |
| 19:05.49 | Lothaer | i just checked |
| 19:06.15 | Lothaer | there in the the normal saved variable folder |
| 19:06.42 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51895 10Tankalyze/ (4 files): |
| 19:06.42 | CIA-12 | Tankalyze: |
| 19:06.42 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW locale |
| 19:06.43 | CIA-12 | - update zhCN locale |
| 19:06.43 | CIA-12 | - update Toc |
| 19:09.08 | Frollo | checking now |
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| 19:10.13 | kebinusan | Hjalte: toggling off the heroic instanceloot sets doesnt seem to disable that display |
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| 19:11.04 | poxk | any working sites like ctprofiles these days? or they all given up |
| 19:11.21 | vrak | does anyone know why baggins is displaying an empty slot in my 'Other' category with the text 'k30' ? |
| 19:11.58 | NightHawkTheSane | specialty bag(s)? |
| 19:12.03 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, k is keyring |
| 19:12.19 | Frollo | that fixed it loth |
| 19:12.29 | Frollo | now i have to go fix everything and make it look right lol |
| 19:12.37 | Lothaer | np mate |
| 19:13.32 | Frollo | i appreciate it! now we just have to get you converted lol |
| 19:13.54 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, let the boy be :p |
| 19:14.06 | Frollo | lol |
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| 19:14.50 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51896 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/ (Core.lua TSP.lua): |
| 19:14.50 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 19:14.50 | CIA-12 | Add function TSP:PathLength(). |
| 19:14.50 | CIA-12 | Add pathLength return value to TSP:InsertNode(). |
| 19:14.50 | CIA-12 | Fix pathLength return value for a input of size 3 or less nodes. |
| 19:14.51 | CIA-12 | Update route length on Insert/Delete Node and Create Route. |
| 19:14.53 | CIA-12 | Add function call to get pathLength if it doesn't exist (upgrades old routes). |
| 19:15.54 | Frollo | alright thanks again loth i'm out |
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| 19:19.38 | aestil | today, i try cartagrapher routes. |
| 19:19.42 | aestil | Xinhuan: what is WIP? |
| 19:19.51 | Xinhuan | Work in Progress |
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| 19:20.23 | aestil | not available via WAU? |
| 19:20.27 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 19:20.34 | aestil | wowace.files? |
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| 19:21.48 | NightHawkTheSane | you mean files.wowace, and if it's not on wau, then it's not there, as wau is just a front end for the same files on files.wowace.com |
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| 19:22.16 | aestil | thats what i thought. |
| 19:22.19 | aestil | ok. i fail then. |
| 19:22.24 | aestil | is it in branch? |
| 19:22.29 | NightHawkTheSane | likely, yes |
| 19:22.39 | siIentium | you can get the files from http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Cartographer_Routes/WIP/Cartographer_Routes/ or, even better, use an SVN client to check it out, then you can keep it updated too |
| 19:22.40 | NightHawkTheSane | seeing as it's not in trunk, and apparently no one here has ever learned to use tags. ;) |
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| 19:24.24 | Lothaer | IGNORE CIA@208.69.182.149 |
| 19:24.35 | Lothaer | .............................. |
| 19:24.43 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51897 10AutoBarTest/AutoBarTest.toc: |
| 19:24.43 | CIA-12 | AutoBarTest: |
| 19:24.43 | CIA-12 | - Fix toc description |
| 19:24.56 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51898 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/TSP.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Fix a pathLength calculating issue resulting in the wrong length being calculated (hence sometimes not returning the shortest route found). Add a minor loop optimization. |
| 19:28.05 | Lothaer | my favourite Ace mod has to be GlowFoSho |
| 19:29.37 | siIentium | /ignore CIA-*!*=CIA@* might help you to ignore all the CIA bots |
| 19:29.58 | Lothaer | .ignore |
| 19:30.10 | Lothaer | kk thanks |
| 19:30.17 | Lothaer | let see if that works |
| 19:32.55 | kebinusan | lothaer whats that do? |
| 19:33.05 | Lothaer | what? |
| 19:33.11 | Lothaer | glowfosho? |
| 19:34.41 | kebinusan | yah |
| 19:34.55 | Lothaer | it allows you to preview any weapon enchant on any weapon |
| 19:35.18 | Lothaer | just ctrl click a weapon, and click the new button in the top right corner and ull see the list |
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| 19:35.38 | Lothaer | just click the enchant and it will place it on the weapon in the dressing woom |
| 19:35.56 | Lothaer | you can also get the link for the weapon and link ti in game |
| 19:36.00 | Lothaer | with the enchant |
| 19:36.21 | Lothaer | but i have added some extra words to GlowFoSho |
| 19:36.27 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51899 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/TSP.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Fix *major* logic error in TSP:InsertNode() which resulted in inserting the node at the wrong location. |
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| 19:37.17 | Lothaer | with it u can also link a gun/bow/wand with say mongoose, it really stirs people up lol |
| 19:37.32 | Lothaer | i tihnk i must have been the 1ist person on my server with glowfosho |
| 19:38.02 | Lothaer | i linke the bow from Karazhan with mongoose and trade channel i had about 50 replies of if i can do it to there weapon |
| 19:38.50 | Lothaer | i have also added a few extra words to glowfosho and i am able to link miscellaneous items and armor with weapon enchants :) |
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| 19:40.37 | Toadkiller | SOunds like you are trolling for a patch that dcs users of your mod when they make illegal links |
| 19:41.03 | Lothaer | A its not my mod |
| 19:41.29 | Lothaer | B ive been making links like that for ages with no DC |
| 19:41.47 | Lothaer | C what i have change to GlowFoSho i have kept personal and not released it |
| 19:42.05 | Lothaer | D u cannot get DCed anymore for trying to get invalid links |
| 19:42.30 | Toadkiller | Really when did that change? |
| 19:42.40 | Lothaer | last patch |
| 19:42.50 | Lothaer | isay u use AtlasLoot |
| 19:42.56 | Lothaer | and try to get a link thats not on the server |
| 19:43.04 | Lothaer | u just dont get the link and no DC |
| 19:43.16 | Toadkiller | So any day now I can expect PAris Hilton Hotpants of the Monkey to come back? |
| 19:43.21 | Lothaer | and since hten AtlasLoot has been changed to get item links on mouse over and not right click |
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| 19:43.33 | Lothaer | although u can right click to get all links on the page ur ate |
| 19:43.47 | Zhinjio | question: does IsGuildLeader() work only after the Guild Roster has been opened once? |
| 19:43.51 | Lothaer | lol probably |
| 19:44.14 | Toadkiller | Would make sense. Its as messed as the crafting api |
| 19:44.22 | Zhinjio | that sucks. |
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| 19:44.35 | Zhinjio | can an addon force it to open and close real quick? Hmm. |
| 19:44.38 | Tornhoof | yeh thats still the old non polling api apparently |
| 19:44.47 | Toadkiller | Yeah I had dreams of adding crafting to AutoBar but one look at the api cured me |
| 19:44.55 | Zhinjio | aha. looks like I can. |
| 19:45.48 | Toadkiller | Lothaer: cool, thats a nice change to the linking situation. The crash was always a stupid ass solution. |
| 19:46.01 | Lothaer | yeah it was a undocumented change |
| 19:46.06 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51900 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/TSP.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Fix pathLength return value for trivial solution of 2 or less nodes in InsertNode() |
| 19:46.30 | nymbia | ooh, that is interesting |
| 19:46.54 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51901 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: ZulAman: add Jan'alai module |
| 19:46.56 | Lothaer | so if u use ItemSync and click on the option to maunally get a link and put in 192 u wont get DCed |
| 19:47.08 | Zhinjio | sweet, that worked. Just needed to call GuildRoster() first |
| 19:47.15 | Zhinjio | and then it has everything it needs. |
| 19:47.31 | Lothaer | FYI 192 is hte itemID for the Warglaives of Azzinoth (Artifact) |
| 19:47.38 | Lothaer | woops |
| 19:47.40 | Lothaer | no its not lol |
| 19:47.44 | Lothaer | its for MArtin thunder lol |
| 19:47.48 | Toadkiller | seems kinda short... |
| 19:47.57 | Lothaer | its a GM only weapon |
| 19:48.02 | Toadkiller | ah |
| 19:48.10 | Lothaer | been in the game since it was released |
| 19:48.14 | Toadkiller | I saw that in action once |
| 19:48.20 | Lothaer | i got the link once |
| 19:48.27 | Lothaer | on live |
| 19:48.45 | Lothaer | its a sword but not a sword |
| 19:48.55 | Lothaer | ie its not classed as a sword so any class can use it |
| 19:49.26 | art3mis | whats that other mod thats like automaton? |
| 19:50.00 | Toadkiller | autoturnin? |
| 19:50.43 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51902 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/TSP.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Convert AceLibrary("Tourist-2.0") calls to Rock("Tourist-2.0") and throw it in a local variable. |
| 19:51.00 | art3mis | does a bit more than just turnins |
| 19:51.11 | art3mis | like dismounts stands up crys when you lose loot rolls |
| 19:51.16 | art3mis | ;) |
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| 19:53.54 | Lothaer | i used to have a mod then when some did /healme it would insult them, anyone know the name or were to find it? |
| 19:59.04 | Cairenn|afk | Sympathy: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4412-Sympathy.html |
| 19:59.14 | Lothaer | tyvm |
| 19:59.17 | Cairenn|afk | welcome |
| 19:59.34 | Lothaer | ive been looking for that for ages |
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| 20:04.01 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51903 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Added menu entries for draw_(mini|world|battle)map toggles |
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| 20:05.08 | Xinhuan | sigh |
| 20:05.11 | Xinhuan | with the AH 2.3 changes |
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| 20:05.21 | Xinhuan | i'm gonna have to need some sort of AH tracking mod |
| 20:05.26 | Xinhuan | to track all my AH sales |
| 20:05.34 | Xinhuan | because the minimum time is 24 hours instead of 2 |
| 20:05.43 | Mudkips | ... |
| 20:05.51 | Mudkips | really? |
| 20:05.52 | Mudkips | wtf |
| 20:06.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: perfect opportunity to write on! |
| 20:06.06 | NightHawkTheSane | one* |
| 20:06.16 | siIentium | I thought the times will be changed to 12/24/48 hours |
| 20:06.18 | Xinhuan | i control my entire server's gem market.. well more or less anyway |
| 20:06.24 | Xinhuan | by undercut everyone |
| 20:06.30 | Xinhuan | usually put it on 2 hours |
| 20:06.34 | Xinhuan | so i can redercut every 2 hours |
| 20:06.38 | Xinhuan | but with that change |
| 20:06.42 | Keias | Anyone know any mods to arrange or hide minimap buttons? |
| 20:06.43 | Xinhuan | i can't control that anymore |
| 20:06.48 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51904 10EnhancedLFG/core.lua: EnhancedLFG: Just remove the GUILD queries entirely. Do everything via WHISPER. |
| 20:06.56 | Keias | As in, the buttons other addons attach to the minimap (without the ability to hide) |
| 20:07.00 | Xinhuan | so i'll need a way to track about 130 gems on the AH |
| 20:07.01 | art3mis | udnercut |
| 20:07.06 | Mudkips | Keias, simpleminimap |
| 20:07.14 | art3mis | undercut, gems, get it ? |
| 20:07.16 | Keias | Mudkips, that won't hide for example |
| 20:07.22 | Keias | My violation icon |
| 20:07.22 | Xinhuan | ~lart art3mis |
| 20:07.22 | purl | strangles art3mis with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 20:07.28 | Mudkips | I don't use violation |
| 20:07.34 | art3mis | keis: mini button bag |
| 20:07.36 | Mudkips | thats probably something you can do in violatino it self |
| 20:07.41 | Keias | thanks art3mis |
| 20:07.45 | Mudkips | violation* |
| 20:07.50 | Keias | And Mudkips: it won't let me unless I have fubar installed |
| 20:07.58 | Mudkips | then install fubar |
| 20:08.02 | Mudkips | and autohide it |
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| 20:08.28 | art3mis | yeah thats a good way toio if you dont wanna see the buttons ever again ;P |
| 20:08.54 | Mudkips | I personally love fubar |
| 20:08.54 | Xinhuan | a mod is stupid if the mod in question doesn't have a "hide minimap button" option coded in it |
| 20:09.05 | Keias | I don't use fubar |
| 20:09.11 | Mudkips | guildfu,questfu,moneyfu... whatever |
| 20:09.12 | Keias | I see no need to install it just to hide a few buttons |
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| 20:10.01 | Xinhuan | guildfu? |
| 20:10.03 | Mudkips | I don't know of any minimap addon that overwrites any other addons minimap button |
| 20:10.25 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r51905 10GameLobby/ (BasicServer.lua Core.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:10.25 | CIA-12 | GameLobby: |
| 20:10.25 | CIA-12 | - core: |
| 20:10.25 | CIA-12 | -- fixed a bug that occures if you try to recycle a FontString which was created by including a template (e.g GameFontNormal). |
| 20:10.25 | CIA-12 | -- add two functions (GameLobby.addMoveScripts(frame) and |
| 20:10.27 | CIA-12 | GameLobby.delMoveScripts(frame)) if you have added the movementscrits to a frame |
| 20:10.29 | Lothaer | ok lets see if i got this font added to clear font right |
| 20:10.30 | Mudkips | guildfu shows you on mouseover of the (guildfu) on the bar guild tab basically |
| 20:10.31 | CIA-12 | by calling GameLobby.addMoveScripts(frame) and recycle it, then the scripts are |
| 20:10.35 | Mudkips | so you'd never have to scroll again |
| 20:10.38 | Knaledge | Is there any way to make a bash script (or whatever) NOT quit when it is updating addons from an SVN if the directory is not found? |
| 20:10.43 | Knaledge | I keep getting this now.. |
| 20:10.55 | Knaledge | svn: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 20:10.56 | Knaledge | svn: Target path does not exist |
| 20:10.58 | Knaledge | logout |
| 20:10.59 | Knaledge | [Process completed] |
| 20:11.00 | Xinhuan | so it would suck if your guild is huge and have 100 ppl online? |
| 20:11.15 | Knaledge | it was in the middle of updating all the addons via SVN |
| 20:11.43 | Knaledge | but.... then it just quit because it hit some minor hiccup in finding a directory. Is there any sort of ... "bypass if fail" syntax? |
| 20:11.44 | Mudkips | Xinhuan I think you can limit how much it shows, similar to performancefu |
| 20:11.59 | Xinhuan | if you limit it... wouldn't it be kinda pointless? |
| 20:12.00 | Mudkips | and who has a guild of 100 these days |
| 20:12.05 | Mudkips | not really |
| 20:12.09 | Mudkips | since you can scroll via mousewheel |
| 20:12.15 | Mudkips | and the blizzard frame is way too fucking small |
| 20:12.16 | Xinhuan | i see |
| 20:12.30 | Knaledge | it would be nice to see an addon be able to implement having TWO guilds in one frame |
| 20:12.37 | Mudkips | it makes summoning a breeeeze |
| 20:12.39 | Knaledge | like the default blizzard guild frame but with another guild in there |
| 20:12.43 | Knaledge | We have two |
| 20:12.46 | Knaledge | Nemesis and Nemesis Prime |
| 20:12.51 | Knaledge | one is for alts/recruits |
| 20:12.54 | Mudkips | one mouseover shows guildnotes, location, blah blah anything that the guildtab will do |
| 20:12.54 | Knaledge | other is for raiding |
| 20:13.32 | Mudkips | that's sort of a limitation in blizzard ui itself |
| 20:13.49 | Knaledge | I'm sure an addon could do it |
| 20:13.51 | Mudkips | since it only tracks in your guild even though you have partner guild |
| 20:14.05 | Mudkips | for example the penny arcade alliance |
| 20:14.08 | Xinhuan | is it really necessary to split a guild into 2 physical guilds for the purpose of management? |
| 20:14.10 | Knaledge | and query status of members not in the local guild via the addonchannel |
| 20:14.14 | Knaledge | yes |
| 20:14.18 | Mudkips | they have tons of different guilds all under the PAA rules |
| 20:14.25 | Mudkips | that would be HUUUGE LIEK XBOX |
| 20:14.27 | Xinhuan | tell me the advantages of splitting it in such a manner |
| 20:14.39 | Knaledge | We don't have to manage one big ass bank, for one, in 2.3 |
| 20:14.48 | Balstor | guilds max out around 500 so they had to split up |
| 20:14.58 | Knaledge | secondly, we can manage numbers easily - see who is available rather than who is an alt, who can't go because of key status, etc. |
| 20:15.12 | Xinhuan | out of the 53 raiding guilds on my server, none of them use alt guilds o_O |
| 20:15.14 | Mudkips | isn't that what guildnotes and guildranks are for? |
| 20:15.20 | Knaledge | we don't have random "alt bullshit" being discussed in the guild channel |
| 20:15.25 | Xinhuan | that's really the purpose of guildnotes |
| 20:15.42 | Knaledge | we have our reasons. |
| 20:15.44 | Mudkips | you could designate a special alt channel? |
| 20:15.46 | Knaledge | valid ones |
| 20:15.48 | Mudkips | like /guildalt |
| 20:15.54 | Mudkips | and mute them in guildchat :) |
| 20:16.07 | Knaledge | yeah that all sounds WAY easier than having two guilds. |
| 20:16.11 | Knaledge | that adds MORE management |
| 20:16.14 | Knaledge | not less |
| 20:16.21 | Xinhuan | wouldn't you feel detached if you were on your alt? |
| 20:16.22 | Mudkips | your problem, not mine :P |
| 20:16.24 | Knaledge | people updating notes, not updating notes |
| 20:16.37 | Knaledge | no it is though ifyou are suggesting all alts b e in one guild. |
| 20:16.39 | Knaledge | many guilds do that |
| 20:16.44 | Xinhuan | notes only need to be done once |
| 20:16.45 | Knaledge | (having a seperate guild for alts) |
| 20:16.49 | Xinhuan | it is hardly a chore |
| 20:16.56 | Knaledge | oh please lol |
| 20:17.01 | Xinhuan | since the alt guild will likely have the same note on who their main is |
| 20:17.06 | Silviu- | Anyone willing to help a little looking over code and tell me what i did wrong that is not obeyying my "OnClick" thing ? ;( http://ace.pastey.net/75263 |
| 20:17.07 | Knaledge | so we have to have someone update notes for guildie alts because they change all day? |
| 20:17.17 | Knaledge | then we have guild banks |
| 20:17.19 | Xinhuan | what do you mean change all day? |
| 20:17.19 | Knaledge | donations |
| 20:17.28 | Mudkips | donations wtf.. |
| 20:17.30 | Knaledge | because our alts are for actual purposes not just for fun |
| 20:17.33 | Mudkips | is this a cult guild ? |
| 20:17.39 | Knaledge | yes mudkips |
| 20:17.42 | Knaledge | yes. |
| 20:17.43 | Mudkips | o noes |
| 20:17.48 | Xinhuan | you're saying your guild has ppl who create and delete alts all the time? |
| 20:17.52 | Xinhuan | "change all day" |
| 20:17.58 | Knaledge | no, we have people who don't make bullshit alts |
| 20:18.08 | Xinhuan | just ginvite alt to guild, promote to alt rank, set a note who his main is, and forget about it, simple |
| 20:18.09 | Knaledge | so their progression is as steady as a raiding guild |
| 20:18.25 | Knaledge | but you forget that we have to look at online members |
| 20:18.28 | Knaledge | who is available |
| 20:18.30 | Knaledge | who isn't an alt |
| 20:18.32 | Knaledge | who is |
| 20:18.42 | Knaledge | if they are an alt, then you have to look at what they can/cant do |
| 20:18.43 | art3mis | guildfu! |
| 20:18.47 | Mudkips | ^ |
| 20:18.58 | Knaledge | guildfu doesn't get people minimum DPS/gear |
| 20:19.05 | Mudkips | -_- |
| 20:19.07 | aestil | is it best to level a shaman as elemental? |
| 20:19.07 | Knaledge | thats wh ywe have two |
| 20:19.19 | Xinhuan | overcomplicating things imo |
| 20:19.20 | Knaledge | one for the those who raid, another for those who want to but can't |
| 20:19.26 | Mudkips | ( Xinhuan ) overcomplicating things imo |
| 20:19.35 | Knaledge | no overcomplicating things is having people muted in gchat, setting notes all the time, etc. etc. |
| 20:19.45 | Knaledge | making channels |
| 20:19.45 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: enhancement is generally the better leveling option |
| 20:19.46 | Xinhuan | i fail to see why you need to set notes all the time |
| 20:19.53 | Xinhuan | you only need to set it ONCE and only ONCE on ginvite |
| 20:19.58 | Knaledge | designating admins for those channels |
| 20:20.07 | Knaledge | because they would update them based on progression |
| 20:20.09 | Knaledge | availability |
| 20:20.11 | Knaledge | what they have |
| 20:20.13 | Xinhuan | and as for muting channels, it only needs to be done ONCE and only ONCE |
| 20:20.19 | Mudkips | wtf |
| 20:20.26 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r51906 10GameLobby_ConnectFour/ConnectFour.lua: |
| 20:20.26 | CIA-12 | GameLobby_ConnectFour: |
| 20:20.26 | CIA-12 | - fixed a bug that both players could make their moves at the beginning of the game. But only one of them was transmitted. |
| 20:20.30 | Xinhuan | you're treating your alts as if they aren't alts anymore |
| 20:20.33 | Xinhuan | they are more like mains |
| 20:20.35 | art3mis | master officer officer-alt raider raider-alt standby standby-alt newbie |
| 20:20.41 | Toadkiller | Why not just have a channel like say MyGuildBench and whoever is in that is someone that can go to the raid or is waiting for a spot in the raid... |
| 20:20.43 | art3mis | it's not that much harder |
| 20:20.44 | Xinhuan | that want to raid and progress |
| 20:20.57 | Knaledge | so we have a guild for them |
| 20:21.03 | Mudkips | ok that's good |
| 20:21.05 | Knaledge | when they meet the min requirements to raid with us |
| 20:21.12 | Knaledge | they get moved into the main guild |
| 20:21.16 | Knaledge | period |
| 20:21.18 | Knaledge | simple |
| 20:21.18 | Mudkips | what's the point of the conversation again? |
| 20:21.22 | Knaledge | no muting, no notes, etc. |
| 20:21.22 | Mudkips | having guildfu track 2 guilds? |
| 20:21.39 | Toadkiller | sunno, seems like people are puzzled over this multi guild thing just to raid |
| 20:21.50 | Toadkiller | *dunno |
| 20:22.03 | Knaledge | it's odd you find it complicated when it's much simpler. |
| 20:22.15 | Knaledge | the suggestions I'm gtting are adding more layers of micromanagement |
| 20:22.19 | Knaledge | whereas two guilds = done. |
| 20:22.28 | Xinhuan | it is complicated because the channels aren't shared between the 2 guilds, makes communication harder between main/alts |
| 20:22.33 | Mudkips | so you want guildfu to support 2 guild tabs is that it? |
| 20:22.50 | art3mis | it's not complicated it's retarded |
| 20:22.52 | Xinhuan | and you end up requiring/needing a .. addon |
| 20:22.52 | Knaledge | I suggested an addon that would SIMPLY replace one guild frame |
| 20:22.54 | Xinhuan | to do it |
| 20:23.02 | Xinhuan | now that's complicated |
| 20:23.03 | Knaledge | as an option |
| 20:23.11 | Knaledge | oh ok I won't make a point then |
| 20:23.15 | Knaledge | you can keep jumping on me |
| 20:23.16 | art3mis | why in gods name would you need to see both guilds? |
| 20:23.31 | Mudkips | because they have so many freakin members and alts |
| 20:23.37 | art3mis | you're either in the raiding guild or you're not |
| 20:23.43 | Knaledge | exactly |
| 20:23.43 | Industrial | kick all the alts :o |
| 20:23.47 | Xinhuan | when management reaches a level it requires an addon to help, it is complicated |
| 20:23.48 | art3mis | when they hit the minreq they'll let an officer know |
| 20:23.58 | art3mis | until then who gives a shit about the second guild? |
| 20:24.04 | Knaledge | this is like talking to a brick wall |
| 20:24.05 | Mudkips | that is what officers and classofficers are for |
| 20:24.11 | Knaledge | how do you guys ever take suggestions? like this? |
| 20:24.16 | Knaledge | no wonder shits the same as two years ago |
| 20:24.17 | art3mis | yeah |
| 20:24.17 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: the first 10 pts in elemental seem awesome. |
| 20:24.19 | art3mis | ;) |
| 20:24.29 | art3mis | and you still havent learned to code? |
| 20:24.35 | Mudkips | ^ |
| 20:24.38 | Industrial | Knaledge: it was far better two years ago :< |
| 20:24.47 | Xinhuan | well the suggestion is ludicrous, fairly sure less than 1 in 100 guilds in the world use alt guilds |
| 20:24.50 | art3mis | you'd think you'd have learned that if you want something make it yourself, if none of us can think of a good use for it ;P |
| 20:25.09 | Mudkips | Xinhuan, I know plenty of guilds that do that |
| 20:25.10 | Mudkips | c'mon now |
| 20:25.13 | Knaledge | I'd just pay someone to do it being as we have that options, with nihilums guy |
| 20:25.15 | art3mis | there is that guild relay thingy though |
| 20:25.21 | Toadkiller | well u need to see both guiulds because instad of using a simple channel for the raiders, you have them in a separate guild. So now instead of various addons just working u need to cobble channels & guild lists & stuff together. Now Chewbaka is an 8 foot tall Wookie living on the planet endor with 3 foot tall Ewoks. This does not make sense. So dont split the guild just use a channel |
| 20:25.29 | art3mis | you could prolly bastardize that to accomplish it |
| 20:25.33 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: eh, there's nothing wrong with the tree, it's just that the gear you get when leveling (more so 10-60) doesn't have a lot of +damage/+crit on it, and you won't have the +crit levels to make it particularly mana efficiant, so you'll be wasting a lot of time drinking a lot |
| 20:25.38 | Knaledge | but why someone can't come in here and suggest something without everyone making themselvesl ook like dicks is what is ludicrous |
| 20:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: not to say you CANT level elemental, or that you SHOULDN'T, but that it's probably going to be a bit less efficiant than enh. *shug* |
| 20:25.53 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: i plan i leaving with my wife, we are both shammy |
| 20:26.01 | Industrial | gotta keep my status |
| 20:26.06 | Industrial | up |
| 20:26.16 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: that's cool. then yeah, ele might be nice. |
| 20:26.50 | Toadkiller | Hey there is nothing wrong with making a suggestion, but if people tell u it does not make sense &u may as well be an 8 foot tall Wookie living on Endor then U need to accept that as well. |
| 20:26.52 | NightHawkTheSane | two different classses might be nicer, but whatever works :) |
| 20:26.59 | ZealotOnAStick | man, the UT3 demo is making me realize how out of practice I am. |
| 20:27.03 | ZealotOnAStick | I suck now. |
| 20:27.03 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51907 10BigWigs/ (ZulAman/BigWigs_ZulAman.toc ZulAman/Nalorakk.lua modules.xml): BigWigs: ZulAman: add partial Nalorakk module |
| 20:27.06 | art3mis | well first off yer not looking like a dick, secondly you're also not taking constructive critisism on how to get arond the issue without an addon that would only be used by 1 person |
| 20:27.11 | Industrial | ZealotOnAStick: thats what she said |
| 20:27.23 | art3mis | industrial: who yer wife? |
| 20:27.24 | Industrial | *cough* |
| 20:27.28 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 20:27.37 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 20:27.37 | Knaledge | Well this is what makes you guys not popular with the community |
| 20:27.38 | Industrial | no urmom |
| 20:27.38 | Industrial | ZING |
| 20:27.41 | art3mis | oh yeah my mom is pretty picky |
| 20:27.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Knaledge: since when is it a popularity contest? :P |
| 20:27.50 | Knaledge | Seriously this stigma of "Ace people are elitist" isn't far from base |
| 20:27.57 | art3mis | we arent elitist |
| 20:27.58 | Knaledge | it's like Mac vs PC in ehre |
| 20:27.59 | Xinhuan | the amount of work is just complicated, if you were saying you need to see who is on an alt in the main guild etc and having alts in the mainguild complicates this for raiding due to minreqs, its the same as needing to track who is online |
| 20:28.01 | Xinhuan | in the alt guild |
| 20:28.10 | Xinhuan | to see if they can log off the alt to log on the main |
| 20:28.17 | art3mis | shitheads that think just because they're a top guild and they ahve a good idea that someone should go do all thier work for them are ;P |
| 20:28.22 | Knaledge | I see your point Xin, do you care to see mine? |
| 20:28.32 | Knaledge | Or will I keep getting cut off |
| 20:28.42 | Industrial | ~cut Knaledge |
| 20:28.48 | Mudkips | guys guys SILENCE |
| 20:28.52 | Mudkips | let him speak |
| 20:28.53 | Mudkips | okay go .... |
| 20:29.00 | Mudkips | o_o |
| 20:29.05 | Knaledge | This is what I see as being said to me |
| 20:29.10 | Knaledge | Your suggestion as follows: |
| 20:29.17 | Industrial | Knaledge: make a forum post. |
| 20:29.28 | Knaledge | guild muting, guild channels, alt channels, alt privs via rank, guild notes |
| 20:29.28 | Toadkiller | Knaledge: Dude, take the criticism &live with it. If not then rewrite all the mods you need rewritten to support your idea. |
| 20:29.36 | Xinhuan | i never suggseted tose |
| 20:29.38 | Xinhuan | those |
| 20:29.40 | Knaledge | Here's what we do: |
| 20:29.46 | Xinhuan | the only suggestion i gave was "guild notes" |
| 20:29.50 | Xinhuan | that has to be set once. |
| 20:29.50 | Knaledge | two guilds, a "chatlink" channel. done |
| 20:30.07 | Knaledge | The suggestion from me: |
| 20:30.07 | Xinhuan | so do nto put words in my mouth |
| 20:30.10 | Toadkiller | Ok so waht the problem then? |
| 20:30.43 | Knaledge | would be nice to have an addon that has the OPTION to see all members of X guild and Y guild online, at once, notes and all if needed because currently, the only way to do so |
| 20:30.48 | Knaledge | is type /who guild_name |
| 20:30.55 | Knaledge | if that guild has more than 49 members |
| 20:30.59 | Knaledge | you're screwed. |
| 20:31.18 | Mudkips | I don't think blizzard allows you to do that in the code do these |
| 20:31.20 | Mudkips | they* |
| 20:31.27 | Mudkips | then you'll have jackassses spying on other guilds |
| 20:31.29 | Toadkiller | Ok & we are telling you it is not worth the time to code because you dont even begin to realize the issues. |
| 20:31.58 | Mudkips | most guilds have websites |
| 20:32.08 | Xinhuan | hence you merge the 2 guilds, with proper officers managing everything. you already have double the management because you have 2 guilds |
| 20:32.13 | Mudkips | I think there might be some kind of addon on there like dkptracker to track guildmembers |
| 20:32.20 | Mudkips | and see them update on the guildwebsite |
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| 20:32.40 | Mudkips | might be screwed implementing that ingame |
| 20:32.42 | Knaledge | Actually there's no management in the second guild |
| 20:32.50 | Knaledge | one of us runs raids for them |
| 20:33.01 | Xinhuan | if alts don't need management why can't they be in the main guild? |
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| 20:33.22 | Knaledge | because we don't want fluffed numbers, having to manage muting/ranks, having to make more channels for their "alt talk" |
| 20:33.23 | Mudkips | Xinhuan, to keep it simple sheesh |
| 20:33.29 | Mudkips | haven't you been reading </sarcasm> |
| 20:33.38 | Xinhuan | why can't i talk on the main guildchat if i'm on an alt? |
| 20:33.40 | Knaledge | updating notes |
| 20:33.50 | Knaledge | because we come on to raid, that's it |
| 20:33.56 | Knaledge | literally we're never one otherwise |
| 20:33.58 | Toadkiller | lol but the "alt talk" is just a raid memeber on their alt... why should they get ignored just because they are on an alt? |
| 20:33.59 | Knaledge | *on |
| 20:34.10 | Diao | o_O |
| 20:34.14 | Xinhuan | sounds like the raiding guild isn't a social guild |
| 20:34.27 | Knaledge | the raiding guild gets together to raid |
| 20:34.28 | Diao | seems unnecessarily restrictive |
| 20:34.36 | Knaledge | the alt guild gets together to fuck around |
| 20:34.37 | Mudkips | FIGHT THE POWER |
| 20:34.38 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't want myself to be ignored or unable to talk on /g just because i'm on an alt |
| 20:34.41 | Mudkips | STICK IT TO THE MAn |
| 20:34.43 | Mudkips | gbye |
| 20:34.48 | Toadkiller | Blizzard already provides a raid chat channel... |
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| 20:35.24 | Knaledge | thats wh ywe have the link channel |
| 20:35.31 | Xinhuan | the reasoning behind it just isn't sound, if you get what i mean, whether a person is on an alt or on a main, its the same person |
| 20:35.34 | Knaledge | all members from both guilds join this channel if they want to |
| 20:35.36 | Toadkiller | When you come on here & make a suggestion & absolutely noone sees it your way you may need to consider that you are ... wrong? |
| 20:35.53 | Knaledge | toadkiller: maybe noone here has a use for it |
| 20:35.56 | Knaledge | that doesn't make me wrong |
| 20:36.00 | Andune | toadkiller: or just different. |
| 20:36.03 | Knaledge | and it's not making any of you wrong either. |
| 20:36.16 | Andune | not that I'm defending what he's trying to do, but I don't think it's a matter of right and wrong. |
| 20:36.16 | Knaledge | believe me - we're definitely NOT the only guild that does this |
| 20:36.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Knaledge: no one here has a use for lots of things, it can still make those things wrong |
| 20:36.19 | Diao | i've never heard of a guild on any server that has an alt guild except the one from SA |
| 20:36.23 | art3mis | no-one ahs a use for it because the setup and imp. is horrible and can be accomplished in a much easier/better way without the need of a custom mod |
| 20:36.27 | Diao | and i've played on like 20 different servers o_o |
| 20:36.39 | Diao | and the only reason the SA guild had one was because they had like 900 members |
| 20:37.09 | Knaledge | chck Nihilum, DnT, A Guild, We Know Girls, Shenanigans, Leviathan, Wicked Dynasty |
| 20:37.11 | Knaledge | etc. |
| 20:37.15 | Knaledge | all of the above have an "alt" guild. |
| 20:37.20 | art3mis | iv seen alt guilds.. but for the most part they're where new recruits and alts go... if you wanna talk you get on yer main.. there is never a point where a main or an alt cant swap to find something out or simply ask someone |
| 20:37.23 | Toadkiller | I mean I could run my guild by having all people & their alts in their own separate guild and then only use a chat channel to talk to each other & then come on here wanting a mod that shows 42 guilds in one panel but its stupid in reality so no one does it & if I asked for mod support I would expect people to laugh at me & tell me to write it myself |
| 20:37.26 | Xinhuan | the only real reason to run alt guilds is mainly because you wish to avoid the 500-member limit issue |
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| 20:38.20 | art3mis | Knaledge: you do realize that in order for you to be able to see said alt-guild that you'd need to have everyone running the bridge mod as well to make sure that if someone logs there isnt a fall over right? |
| 20:38.31 | Andune | His idea is not dumb or wrong. It may be difficult. And it may be of little value to most people. So the correct response might be, well, no one here wants to do it, so you might need to go write it yourself.. |
| 20:38.46 | Knaledge | I've not contested that either, Andune |
| 20:38.47 | art3mis | not to mention the amount of checks on each log that each instance of said addon is gonna do as well as feeding the information over |
| 20:39.16 | Xinhuan | simply put, such a mod isn't feasible to write, it caters to a minority, hogs communication channels and still requires a /who of some sort coded in it to tell who is online in the other guild, to send data to |
| 20:39.38 | Andune | but I don't think there's any point in trying to talk him out of it. He has an idea for a mod, no one here thinks it's worthwhile, seems like he'll have to go elsewhere if he wants to see it come to fruition. |
| 20:39.59 | Toadkiller | ok so then we are agreed. Nobody but Knaledge wants this so he has to go find someone other than the current members of this channel to code it up. No back to our regular programming |
| 20:39.59 | Knaledge | would it be possible to do something like.. |
| 20:40.17 | Diao | if you want something like that you should learn lua and make it yourself rather than asking people who have no use for it to do it :P |
| 20:40.27 | Knaledge | how an addon such as ALS is able to reprint the guild member status in a frame somewhere |
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| 20:40.39 | Knaledge | could that data be captured and sent as one chunk across the guildaddon channel? |
| 20:40.46 | Xinhuan | you can probably do that in a single macro |
| 20:41.08 | Xinhuan | the issue is _who_ to send data to |
| 20:41.28 | Xinhuan | if you are in guildA, and you want to send data to guildB, you need various oddball mechanisms to detect who is online in guildB |
| 20:41.28 | Knaledge | well the communication for a guildaddon channel using addon is.. |
| 20:41.31 | Knaledge | that channel, correct? |
| 20:41.52 | Knaledge | like you would code the addon to have it only utilize the guildaddon channel |
| 20:42.11 | Xinhuan | you're referring to a specific user created channel? |
| 20:42.22 | Knaledge | so there would be no snooping or interception since this data would only be presented in that channel. |
| 20:42.35 | Knaledge | the bridge comes into place when you have two different guilds |
| 20:42.40 | Grum | i dont know why people would like an 'alt guild' its just stupid |
| 20:42.44 | Grum | and annoying |
| 20:42.48 | Grum | and i am glad we dont have that ^^ |
| 20:42.55 | Grum | 290p in guild ftw |
| 20:43.18 | Knaledge | Xinhuan: not sure... am I? |
| 20:43.30 | Knaledge | I don't know but I know there's a "hidden" guildaddon channels |
| 20:43.35 | Xinhuan | i'll say its doable |
| 20:43.44 | Knaledge | so that would allow people within the guild to sync between one another |
| 20:43.46 | Xinhuan | but i'll also say that nobody here will write it |
| 20:43.50 | Knaledge | the bridge is the single POF |
| 20:44.05 | Knaledge | Question though... |
| 20:44.10 | Knaledge | how does GuildCalender do it? |
| 20:44.17 | Nacklebert | alt-guilds are usually because wow has a limit of 500 members. |
| 20:44.18 | Knaledge | you can schedule things between two guilds last I checked |
| 20:44.19 | art3mis | it doesnt bridge |
| 20:44.31 | Xinhuan | probably using the same mechanism you said |
| 20:44.40 | art3mis | and if it does its a pull mech not a push |
| 20:44.47 | Xinhuan | by requiring a custom channel, like Cosmos used to |
| 20:44.52 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r51908 10GameLobby_TicTacToe/ (GameLobby_TicTacToe.toc TicTacToe.lua icon.tga o.tga x.tga): |
| 20:44.52 | CIA-12 | GameLobby_TicTacToe: |
| 20:44.52 | CIA-12 | - add 3 textures (gameicon, cross, circle). |
| 20:44.52 | CIA-12 | - made some changes in the GUI |
| 20:44.52 | CIA-12 | - the message dialogs that informs the player who has won the game will now also open if you are the server |
| 20:45.13 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: well, a pull mechanism is the only smart way to implement that |
| 20:45.16 | art3mis | in order to have constant data flow to update wwhat you want you'd need guildB people to constnatly push the data on each change(logs notes etc) |
| 20:45.39 | Knaledge | is there no way to poll that, artemis? |
| 20:45.45 | art3mis | GC is more or lessa one shot deal, and a single source more or less |
| 20:45.46 | Knaledge | a query against that? |
| 20:46.51 | art3mis | you could fee it exactly the same way that the guild chat bridges, the downside however is the fact that instead of a single pull once in a while from one source, you'd need almost a constant pull from multiple rollover sources or some way to idle 1 person 24.7 ;P |
| 20:47.06 | art3mis | err 2 people 24.7 to BE the bridge |
| 20:47.39 | Knaledge | so the issue seems to be the efficiency of the implementation rather than the practicality of its use |
| 20:47.53 | Knaledge | because I can think of plenty of guilds that would use this |
| 20:47.54 | art3mis | limit the amount of times you can pull as a one shot, like old GC was and you've made it more feabile but not less difficult as it's just as easy at that point to whisper someone in the other guild for the info |
| 20:47.57 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.13 | Knaledge | but I see what you mean about the implementation |
| 20:48.46 | Zhinjio | hmm. I seem to recall reading that in the latest patch, GetPoint might return and anchor based on an arbitrary corner? |
| 20:48.46 | Knaledge | our concern is the growing number of alts |
| 20:48.58 | Xinhuan | its not just that, but when you couple this with the fact that there are extremely few guilds that use a main-alt-guild system, it just isn't worth the effort. plus testing it would be difficult without being in such a guild |
| 20:48.59 | Zhinjio | or will it always return whatever I used for my SetPoint call? |
| 20:49.09 | Knaledge | we are approaching 200~ but the issue we have is most of those people want to raid |
| 20:49.09 | Xinhuan | see what i mean? |
| 20:49.20 | Knaledge | we can't poll the entire guild without doing a /who |
| 20:49.31 | Knaledge | and thats limited to 49 people per attempt |
| 20:49.41 | Knaledge | Xin: yes |
| 20:49.45 | Nacklebert | cant pull info from the social guild panel? |
| 20:49.48 | Xinhuan | you could, if you combine 2 guilds into 1 - that's essentially want you wanted - a guildframe that shows everyone online |
| 20:49.49 | art3mis | knal |
| 20:50.01 | Xinhuan | the only difference would be a shared /g |
| 20:50.04 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.10 | Grum | could anyone give an argument why you would want 2 guilds? |
| 20:50.20 | Nacklebert | max guild size = 500 |
| 20:50.21 | Knaledge | there's sometimes 50 warriors or more online in that guild |
| 20:50.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Grum: an exercise in overcomplication? |
| 20:50.25 | Xinhuan | his argument is that it makes management easier |
| 20:50.30 | Knaledge | we seriously have a surplus of mages and warriors |
| 20:50.33 | Knaledge | it's ridiculous |
| 20:50.34 | Xinhuan | by separting mains from alts |
| 20:50.40 | Xinhuan | so that it is easier to tell who are raiders |
| 20:50.42 | art3mis | grum: the only time ive seen 2guild is for lowbies and 70's |
| 20:51.10 | art3mis | so you can have a guild where people play and invite/recruit etc without the irritation of having new players on yer gc ;P |
| 20:51.16 | Xinhuan | its really just not necessary unless your guild is extremely large |
| 20:51.43 | Knaledge | well it's a dead horse more or less it seems |
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| 20:51.49 | Knaledge | its one topic of three I had for today |
| 20:51.57 | Knaledge | the other being my bash script issue |
| 20:52.07 | Trell_ | Tekkub ping |
| 20:52.07 | Knaledge | and the other being a DKP management addon that doesnt seem to exist |
| 20:52.26 | art3mis | lets move on to those then |
| 20:52.28 | art3mis | ;P |
| 20:52.35 | Knaledge | FuriousRAID is the only one that comes close but... it's not updated and is sooo buggy |
| 20:52.39 | Nacklebert | more problematic are the dkp management addons that dont have documentation. heh. |
| 20:52.44 | Toadkiller | One more kick at the can: when in 1 single guild you can assign ranks like say "Raider" |
| 20:53.22 | Nacklebert | Toad: or use the notes field. |
| 20:53.50 | Knaledge | again, both valid suggestions to alleviate the issue |
| 20:53.50 | Toadkiller | So many options ... built in |
| 20:53.50 | Knaledge | for us solution = 200 members + |
| 20:53.52 | Knaledge | 170 = alt guild |
| 20:53.55 | Knaledge | 30 = raid guild |
| 20:53.56 | Knaledge | done |
| 20:54.16 | Toadkiller | Yes, now live with the choice you made |
| 20:54.29 | Toadkiller | Or go on fighting the system. |
| 20:54.35 | Knaledge | yeah you're right heh. addons are pointless |
| 20:54.39 | Knaledge | they make noones life easier. |
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| 20:54.41 | NightHawkTheSane | FIGHT THE POWAH! |
| 20:54.44 | Knaledge | anywayyysss |
| 20:54.54 | Knaledge | about the DKP management thing |
| 20:54.57 | Nacklebert | Or what we did; limit the players to two "raiders" that stay in the main guild and done. main+ 1-alt. and let em swap in/out however |
| 20:55.33 | Knaledge | We want something like... well like FuriousRAID but cleaner, clearer, and efficient |
| 20:55.35 | Xinhuan | or let the class leaders handle raid invites, they know who are on alts |
| 20:56.05 | Knaledge | We just really want armor DKP and weapon/trinket/ring DKP |
| 20:56.12 | Knaledge | both amounts viewable in game somehow |
| 20:56.27 | Knaledge | and both able to be deducted from separately in the most obvious fashion |
| 20:56.36 | Knaledge | attendance has a value |
| 20:56.40 | Knaledge | pretty much thats it |
| 20:56.50 | Knaledge | FuriousRAID is the only addon that takes care of this but... |
| 20:57.05 | Knaledge | you have to like... get it drunk first, get rid of its friends |
| 20:57.05 | Xinhuan | there are quite a number of DKP addons, you can possibly try using 2 different ones at the same time |
| 20:57.07 | Knaledge | etc. |
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| 20:57.14 | Xinhuan | to get the effect you want |
| 20:57.21 | kebinusan | you can customize getdkp or even DKPMon to do that if you're pulling info from an eqdkp site |
| 20:57.21 | Xinhuan | i.e 2 different DKP tables |
| 20:57.36 | Xinhuan | you're using 2 seperate DKP tables right? |
| 20:57.37 | Knaledge | actually we would like to but aren't aware of any method of this type of separation |
| 20:57.41 | Xinhuan | one for armor and one for trinkets |
| 20:57.45 | Knaledge | eqDKPplus is horribly documented |
| 20:57.51 | Knaledge | so we use eqDKP |
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| 20:57.57 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 20:57.57 | CIA-12 | - ZA update |
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| 20:58.19 | Knaledge | currently we can't find a way to make two DKP tables in eqDKP aside from creating two forums |
| 20:58.28 | kebinusan | I dont find it hard to work with at all |
| 20:58.46 | Knaledge | we ideally want one forum, two "tables" or sets of values (armor = 1, everything else =2) |
| 20:58.59 | Knaledge | so you click on say... SSC |
| 20:59.04 | Knaledge | you see two colums |
| 20:59.07 | Knaledge | one for armor DKP |
| 20:59.14 | Knaledge | second for "everything else" DKP |
| 20:59.22 | Knaledge | attendance goes toward armor |
| 20:59.31 | Knaledge | kills, etc. goes toward "everything else" |
| 20:59.37 | Knaledge | then, take that into game |
| 20:59.43 | Knaledge | have an attendance tracker |
| 20:59.57 | Knaledge | people able to whisper in game for poitns available |
| 21:00.04 | Knaledge | and... what else? Thats it I think |
| 21:00.04 | Xinhuan | someone with the knowledge can probably edit the code to do what you want, but again its the same issue, few people will do something that doesn't benefit themselves directly, especially since its out of freetime and goodwill |
| 21:00.12 | kebinusan | I think its asking a bit much to expect someone to have a DKP mod already customized to what your guild needs exactly |
| 21:00.13 | Knaledge | FuriousRaid, surprsingly, does all of this |
| 21:00.17 | Knaledge | allegedly |
| 21:00.45 | Knaledge | well we don't expect anyone to DO this without compensation |
| 21:00.48 | Nacklebert | Xin: agree. DKP is so variable from guild to guild. no one addon would get adopted by everyone. Default to PnP. Pen & Paper. |
| 21:00.48 | Knaledge | if we didn't ourselves |
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| 21:01.05 | Knaledge | we actually like eqDKP, etc. |
| 21:01.18 | Knaledge | but honestly - someone should adopt FuriousRAID |
| 21:01.25 | Knaledge | it's terribly well done in execution |
| 21:01.31 | Knaledge | it's just so clunky.. needs some TLC |
| 21:01.51 | Nacklebert | clunky, interface-wise you mean? |
| 21:01.52 | Knaledge | like.. you ahve to COMPLETELY wipe the addon if you fuck up on raid sets |
| 21:01.56 | Knaledge | yes and no |
| 21:02.09 | Knaledge | it gets scrwey once you push it or "stupid user, stupid bug" it |
| 21:02.15 | Knaledge | like the above |
| 21:02.20 | Nacklebert | i c |
| 21:02.25 | Knaledge | it NEVER lets go of a phantom "set" if you delete all sets |
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| 21:02.48 | Knaledge | so god forbid you decide "you know what? I was setting this all up but thought of an eaiser way to structure this all.. let's start over" |
| 21:03.03 | Knaledge | next thought in the process "well let's start by deleting all the sets and tables" |
| 21:03.05 | Knaledge | ok done. |
| 21:03.13 | Knaledge | oh wait.. the first table I created won't go away |
| 21:03.19 | Knaledge | and now when I try and add more sets or views.. |
| 21:03.35 | Knaledge | oh hey now it's all being sucked into this vortex of that non-existant raid/set I just deleted.. |
| 21:03.39 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51910 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 21:03.39 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 21:03.40 | CIA-12 | - ZA mount added |
| 21:03.41 | Knaledge | and now when I /rl, it errors out |
| 21:04.05 | Knaledge | solution = complete wipe, re-install, start over |
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| 21:04.17 | kebinusan | Set/NonSet pools are pretty easy in eqdkp+, though Ive never implemented them the options are all right there on the admin panel |
| 21:04.40 | Knaledge | I dont doubt that they are |
| 21:04.48 | Knaledge | their english support is awful though |
| 21:04.51 | Knaledge | it's like one guy |
| 21:04.54 | Knaledge | and then a bunch of users |
| 21:05.27 | Knaledge | took them 3 weeks to respond to a PHP5 error |
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| 21:06.22 | Knaledge | so really I was hoping someone could point us in the direction of an addon/addons that would help there.. |
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| 21:07.07 | Knaledge | there just isn't something... as open/configurable until you get to FuriousRAID but that thing is ... functional just. like you can tell the authors made it for themselves, and rather than improving and polishingg, they worked around their own workarounds. |
| 21:07.17 | kebinusan | I dont use multiple sets, but I do export attendance percentage for in game use |
| 21:07.18 | Knaledge | not bad but just... kinda crappy when you release _that_ |
| 21:08.03 | Wogroipl | does someone know an app that can check if my gfx card is working properly? |
| 21:08.16 | Wogroipl | because I think it's broken :( |
| 21:08.27 | nymbia | is there stuff on your screen? |
| 21:08.37 | Xinhuan | broken? |
| 21:09.05 | Wogroipl | yes, but if I try to load WoW, or HL2 for that matter, I get all kinds of rubbish on my screen |
| 21:09.28 | Ordog | tried opengl ? |
| 21:09.34 | Xinhuan | try running "dxdiag" |
| 21:09.37 | kebinusan | Knaledge: most people write for themselves, you could set up eqdkp for multiple sets and then just export all the information you need as a table that could be accessed in game by one or two frontend mods |
| 21:09.39 | Ordog | its a very last ressort ... |
| 21:09.42 | Xinhuan | a utility that comes with windows |
| 21:10.01 | Wogroipl | yeah, I get no errors with dxdIAG |
| 21:10.02 | Xinhuan | open the run dialog box from the start menu, and type in "dxdiag" |
| 21:10.08 | Xinhuan | all tests pass? |
| 21:10.11 | Wogroipl | yep |
| 21:10.12 | Ordog | what kind of card is it? |
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| 21:10.20 | Wogroipl | 6800 ultra |
| 21:10.22 | kebinusan | You could try running WoW in opengl mode |
| 21:10.37 | kebinusan | form a command line, WoW.exe -opengl |
| 21:10.37 | Xinhuan | try what kebin suggested |
| 21:10.46 | Ordog | i suggested that -.- |
| 21:10.47 | Ordog | ^^ |
| 21:10.54 | Nacklebert | open your box, blow out the dust, and re-seat the video card |
| 21:11.00 | kebinusan | oh so you did :-) |
| 21:11.01 | Zhinjio | Anyone have strong dropdownmenu fu? |
| 21:11.19 | Knaledge | wogroipl |
| 21:11.19 | Wogroipl | Nacklebert, think that would help? |
| 21:11.24 | Knaledge | sounds like a blown capacitor |
| 21:11.26 | Knaledge | or leaking one |
| 21:11.38 | Nacklebert | or just overheading. |
| 21:11.39 | Knaledge | take out your video card see if any of the "tube like things" on there are puffy at the top |
| 21:11.41 | Nacklebert | heating even |
| 21:11.42 | Ordog | first try opengl |
| 21:11.47 | kebinusan | then try reseating the card |
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| 21:11.58 | Knaledge | and while you're in there, do what I said too |
| 21:12.11 | Knaledge | if you see brownish rust colored dust or grime on the top of those tube things |
| 21:12.15 | Knaledge | time to get a new card |
| 21:12.23 | Ordog | but yes it sounds like if the card heats up too much when doing complex calculations |
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| 21:12.39 | Xinhuan | what kind of rubbish do you see on the screen anyway? |
| 21:12.47 | Nacklebert | heat could be from dust, bad air circulation (ie dying fan on card or elsewhere) or blown cap |
| 21:13.20 | Wogroipl | well the temperature doesn't go over 58 degrees Celcius |
| 21:13.27 | Knaledge | thats pretty hot, you know |
| 21:13.30 | Knaledge | for a GPU |
| 21:13.35 | Ordog | not at all ^^ |
| 21:13.49 | Knaledge | _pretty_ being the keyword |
| 21:13.52 | Ordog | mine defaults to 78 degrees Celcius under load |
| 21:13.57 | Ordog | -.- |
| 21:13.59 | Zhinjio | thats around normal for a 6800. |
| 21:14.01 | Wogroipl | Xinhuan, funny colors, random artifacts |
| 21:14.04 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 21:14.09 | Knaledge | thats a overheating GPU |
| 21:14.12 | Knaledge | check the capacitors |
| 21:14.15 | Nacklebert | yup |
| 21:14.15 | dreamss | lol |
| 21:14.16 | Knaledge | reseat the card |
| 21:14.21 | Xinhuan | going to have to say clean the dust |
| 21:14.22 | Knaledge | but thats a blown cap or a bad fan |
| 21:14.25 | Knaledge | but if it's THAT fast |
| 21:14.30 | Knaledge | like just on startup of a title |
| 21:14.40 | Xinhuan | the only real way to test if its a gxcard issue though, is to bring your card to another PC, and test it there |
| 21:14.45 | Knaledge | either a minor driver issue with dx startup or a blown cap |
| 21:14.47 | Xinhuan | and see if the issue repeats |
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| 21:14.54 | Knaledge | yeah and that as well |
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| 21:15.05 | JCinDE | evening everyone |
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| 21:15.07 | Nacklebert | good point Xin. |
| 21:15.12 | kebinusan | try an opengl screensaver in windows |
| 21:15.20 | kebinusan | heh |
| 21:15.26 | Wogroipl | sorry I missed the last few lines, pressed esc :( |
| 21:15.27 | Xinhuan | while it is unlikely, it could also be a power supply issue |
| 21:15.30 | Xinhuan | to the gxcard |
| 21:15.44 | Knaledge | if it's recent though and hasn't happened before |
| 21:15.44 | JCinDE | Is it possible to extract interface data for the PTR like you can for live? |
| 21:15.50 | Knaledge | I'd look at the card first, then the PSU |
| 21:16.11 | Wogroipl | oki, hope I'll be back soon ).o |
| 21:16.12 | nymbia | JCinDE: yes |
| 21:16.14 | Knaledge | usually a bad line to the vidcard would appear much sooner than just when starting a game |
| 21:16.16 | Nacklebert | JCin yes |
| 21:16.24 | Wogroipl | if not I've broken something :P |
| 21:16.28 | Xinhuan | JCinDE: yeah, use a utility like MyWarcraftStudio, or WinMPQ or any form of mpq viewer |
| 21:16.34 | Xinhuan | that can extract files |
| 21:16.50 | Xinhuan | i don't think the blizzard one does it |
| 21:16.50 | Knaledge | One last thing too for my stuff |
| 21:16.55 | Xinhuan | on ptr files |
| 21:17.04 | JCinDE | Yeah I got WinMPQ and extracted the patch-3.mpq file but it didn't have any interface files |
| 21:17.15 | Knaledge | anyone know how to stop a bash script or... SVN app from stopping updating if it runs into a hiccup? |
| 21:17.17 | Knaledge | like this |
| 21:17.22 | Knaledge | svn: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 21:17.23 | Knaledge | svn: Target path does not exist |
| 21:17.25 | Knaledge | logout |
| 21:17.26 | Knaledge | [Process completed] |
| 21:17.43 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51911 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Malacrass > Hex Lord Malacrass |
| 21:17.46 | Knaledge | I'd imagine theres some sort of flag I can set to say "if you find a problem, just move on" |
| 21:17.59 | Xinhuan | if there isn't any Interface files in patch-3.mpq, then nothing changed, since wowtest.exe falls back on the MPQ files in your real copy of wow |
| 21:18.11 | JCinDE | but we know interface stuff has changed. |
| 21:18.13 | Knaledge | example: svn up -i * |
| 21:18.17 | Xinhuan | hmm let me check |
| 21:18.19 | Knaledge | "ignore etc.) |
| 21:18.20 | JCinDE | mail UI, auction UI (allegedly) |
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| 21:18.30 | JCinDE | and the new built-in tracker menu |
| 21:18.35 | Xinhuan | yeah hold on, i'll check |
| 21:18.40 | JCinDE | which is what I want to reverse engineer |
| 21:18.47 | Nacklebert | hrm thought mail and auction UI were serverside |
| 21:19.01 | Nacklebert | serverside changes anyway |
| 21:19.18 | Xinhuan | you opened the wrong file |
| 21:19.28 | Xinhuan | you should be opening the file in the enUS foldr |
| 21:19.32 | JCinDE | it was the only .mpq in the wowtest folder |
| 21:19.35 | JCinDE | wrong place? |
| 21:19.36 | ulic | I found stuff in my patch-3.mpq |
| 21:19.38 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 21:19.47 | Xinhuan | you opened the wrong file in the wrong folder |
| 21:19.58 | Xinhuan | use the one in the enUS\ subfolder |
| 21:20.10 | NimbleRabit | I keep accidentally locking cartographer |
| 21:20.12 | NimbleRabit | like....all the time |
| 21:20.15 | ulic | yea, they use a different stucture for the test client I think |
| 21:20.17 | NimbleRabit | what am I pressing to do it? |
| 21:20.20 | ulic | it's buried deeper |
| 21:20.21 | JCinDE | ah gotcha |
| 21:20.57 | Xinhuan | NimbleRabit: alt key |
| 21:21.18 | NimbleRabit | Xinhuan: is there a way to disable that |
| 21:21.32 | JCinDE | found it. thanks. |
| 21:21.34 | Xinhuan | i don't think so |
| 21:21.37 | Xinhuan | its designed to be a feature |
| 21:21.42 | Xinhuan | see the "key" button |
| 21:21.49 | Xinhuan | next to the "cartograper" button? |
| 21:21.52 | Xinhuan | on the worldmap |
| 21:21.57 | Xinhuan | that toggles it |
| 21:22.44 | Xinhuan | if you check your keybindings, you'll also probably find that Alt-M is keybinded to open the Alternate-Map |
| 21:22.48 | Xinhuan | if you remove that, it may work |
| 21:22.56 | Xinhuan | (press ESC -> Key Bindings) |
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| 21:24.04 | Trell_ | lol@Stormchops recipe |
| 21:24.17 | Trell_ | ive been waiting for another cooking recipe to be added like the dragons breath one for ages... |
| 21:24.59 | Toadkiller | Hey do any classes other than Shamans have spells to buff their weapons? |
| 21:24.59 | Trell_ | Charges you with energy, causing lightning to occasionally zap nearby enemies for the next 30 min. |
| 21:25.02 | Nacklebert | Trell, always wondered why they didnt do a few more of those; frost, shadow, etc |
| 21:25.16 | Trell_ | yeah, the flame breath one was awesome, used to use that loads. |
| 21:25.25 | Xinhuan | was a pain to farm |
| 21:25.38 | Trell_ | Xinhuan; but still a LOT of fun to use ;) |
| 21:25.56 | Toadkiller | The new droppable keg of beer is a lot of fun... |
| 21:26.11 | Xinhuan | i tested it, it has 50 charges lol! |
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| 21:27.38 | Nacklebert | keg of beer, on ptr? |
| 21:27.51 | Zhinjio | no, brewfest event reward |
| 21:28.05 | Nacklebert | right, ok |
| 21:28.06 | bigzero | hey guys. Anyone know the UI version for the current patch...it's been a while since I updated my mods |
| 21:28.19 | NimbleRabit | Xinhuan: thanks |
| 21:28.19 | Kemayo | 20200 |
| 21:28.22 | bigzero | thanks |
| 21:28.24 | Xinhuan | did it work? |
| 21:28.43 | Toadkiller | 2.2.3 |
| 21:28.59 | ulic | Funkeh`: in Halazzi the totem trigger is "Halazzi begins to..." I assume the double space is a typo. |
| 21:29.04 | NimbleRabit | Xinhuan: I think so yeah |
| 21:29.06 | bigzero | is there a webpage that would have the up to date version number? worldofwar used to have it but I can't find it anymore... |
| 21:29.25 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r51912 10SimpleTradeskill/Core.lua: |
| 21:29.25 | CIA-12 | SimpleTradeskill: |
| 21:29.25 | CIA-12 | -Collapse vendor/bank amounts down if they're the same. (Vendor is an expansion of base, bank is an expansion of vendor.) |
| 21:29.25 | CIA-12 | -Probably fix errors when installed with Enchantrix. |
| 21:29.43 | Toadkiller | bigzero: 2.2.3 |
| 21:30.18 | Kemayo | Toadkiller: Rogues have poisons that buff their weapons. |
| 21:30.30 | Toadkiller | Just load up wow &look at the start screen to see it... |
| 21:30.41 | Toadkiller | Yeah laready got non spell buffs |
| 21:31.31 | Toadkiller | More wondering if pallys have some kinda weapon buff, or maybe warlocks or hunters or some other mysterious class I do not play |
| 21:33.11 | Zhinjio | ah, I should be using Dewdrop. @set me=nub. |
| 21:33.12 | Trell_ | wizard oils? |
| 21:33.28 | Trell_ | mana oils? |
| 21:33.32 | Nacklebert | sharp stones |
| 21:33.35 | Kemayo | Toadkiller: Warlocks have firestones, which go in the wand slot, and give weapons a chance to do fire damage on hit, I think. |
| 21:36.10 | Nacklebert | Here's a question, how come the unclaimed addons on the wiki don't show the SVN Infobox by default. |
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| 21:36.30 | Nacklebert | cant see who made em, or what rev or anything about unclaimed |
| 21:36.46 | Wogroipl | \o/ I didn't break the card :) |
| 21:37.01 | bigzero | Toadkiller: I was talking about the UI version, not the client version....sometimes they don't match up as nicely as 2.2.x = 20200 |
| 21:37.05 | Toadkiller | Ah kool so firestones are a spell but they conjure something? |
| 21:38.23 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: Not sure if it has been reported, but with the new AutoBar, if I set the Style to "Zoomed", pop-up buttons are not styled correctly |
| 21:38.30 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: they remain styled as normal buttons |
| 21:39.47 | Toadkiller | vhaarr: I am about to check in a fix for that |
| 21:39.51 | Wogroipl | Nacklebert, Xinhuan: thanks a lot, there was a LOT of dust inside my gfx card :s |
| 21:40.00 | Nacklebert | welcome |
| 21:40.07 | Xinhuan | no problem |
| 21:40.08 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: excellent, although it's not a big deal |
| 21:40.13 | Toadkiller | Just adding shammy spell weapon buffs b4 i do |
| 21:40.14 | vhaarr | just thought I'd mention it |
| 21:40.22 | Wogroipl | I even took off the fan, and cleaned it from the inside |
| 21:40.23 | Knaledge | what addon is it that people use to make their buttons look... |
| 21:40.28 | Knaledge | like glossy and curvacious? |
| 21:40.37 | Knaledge | almost underneath a tile of glass? |
| 21:40.37 | Silviu- | cycircled |
| 21:40.40 | Wogroipl | cycircled Knaledge |
| 21:40.46 | Knaledge | but isn't that circular buttons? |
| 21:40.54 | Toadkiller | no its all kinda buttons |
| 21:40.55 | Wogroipl | not neccessarily |
| 21:40.58 | Nacklebert | sounds interesting, I'l have to check it out |
| 21:40.59 | Knaledge | ah really? |
| 21:41.10 | Knaledge | I thought it just implied circular buttons |
| 21:41.18 | Knaledge | any issues if I use BT3 + cycircled? |
| 21:41.23 | Knaledge | are they one in the same? any overlap? |
| 21:41.31 | Toadkiller | Yeah the original did circles the nthe mod got bigger |
| 21:41.35 | Nacklebert | heh, was typing same questionss Knaleg |
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| 21:41.58 | Toadkiller | cyCircled works with BT3 &AutoBar & a ton of other mods. |
| 21:41.59 | Wogroipl | you can skin BT3 with cycircled |
| 21:42.10 | Nacklebert | cool. going to try it. |
| 21:42.19 | Toadkiller | Theres a plugins folder in it that anyone can add skinning for their mod to |
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| 21:43.05 | Knaledge | cycircled or BT3? |
| 21:43.14 | Knaledge | I just don't want overlap in functionality from those two |
| 21:43.27 | Knaledge | if cycircled isessentially a "skinner" but for UI buttons, I'm all for it |
| 21:43.36 | Knaledge | I love BT3 and don't want to steal its thunder |
| 21:43.55 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51913 10Skillet/UI/ (MainFrame.lua ShoppingList.lua): |
| 21:43.55 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 21:43.55 | CIA-12 | - Do not display the shopping list at banks/auctions if empty |
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| 21:44.19 | qwesto | Knaledge: cyCircled is a skinner for buttons :) |
| 21:44.25 | Knaledge | word |
| 21:44.26 | Silviu- | Lf lua coder to help me a little :( |
| 21:44.31 | Knaledge | and it's not a resource hog right? |
| 21:44.33 | Knaledge | I mean... |
| 21:44.41 | Knaledge | like eePanels2 is nice on the resources |
| 21:44.56 | Knaledge | I'd imagine cyCircled isn't greedy on anything, .. right/ |
| 21:44.56 | Xinhuan | its not a resource hog |
| 21:45.05 | Xinhuan | all it does is load a couple of textures and apply them on buttons |
| 21:45.07 | Xinhuan | that's all |
| 21:45.10 | Knaledge | word |
| 21:45.15 | siIentium | cycircled is an action button skinner that works on top of the default buttons as well as quite some button addons, it works with BT3 too |
| 21:45.22 | Silviu- | Xinhuan u will help me for sure ! |
| 21:45.23 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 21:45.32 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 21:45.38 | Silviu- | Can i prv u ? ;) |
| 21:45.54 | Xinhuan | if its a request to code something, i'm not doing it :) |
| 21:46.02 | Silviu- | No, just a lil help :P |
| 21:46.06 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 21:46.18 | Knaledge | And while I'm here but before I go... anyone know how to make SVN via bash not quit on itself if it runs into an error? |
| 21:46.22 | art3mis | cycircled! |
| 21:46.33 | Knaledge | like "path does not exist" (on remote server) |
| 21:47.16 | Knaledge | can I make it "ignore" that and just keep updating? 9/10 times if that error happens, the author knows about it because it was intentional and it shouldn't break anything.. I'd imagine if an addon's directory on the SVN was removed.. it's because iit's no longer needed. |
| 21:47.43 | Knaledge | and hence.. the logic of... can I make my "updater" script (SVN + bash) ignore those "errors" and just continue updating? vs. quitting |
| 21:48.12 | Zhinjio | guys, is there a nice example addon somewhere that demonstrates good use of dewdrop features? |
| 21:48.27 | Xinhuan | i'm going to suggest writing a script to update per addon, then writing a script to run all those scripts |
| 21:48.32 | Xinhuan | so if a addon script breaks, the rest runs |
| 21:48.41 | orionshock | Zhinjio: AceOptions Table |
| 21:48.51 | orionshock | manual dew drop config is a bitch |
| 21:48.53 | Knaledge | Xinhuan: currently my two scripts are... |
| 21:48.55 | art3mis | you could use kem's python updater too |
| 21:49.11 | art3mis | whish it pretty durn slick in and of itself |
| 21:49.21 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.29 | Knaledge | that grabs the initial addon |
| 21:49.31 | Knaledge | then I run |
| 21:49.39 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.41 | Zhinjio | orionshock: I assume thats in one of the standard Ace libs, right? |
| 21:49.43 | Knaledge | that updates all addons |
| 21:49.46 | Zhinjio | aceconfig? |
| 21:49.48 | Zhinjio | er... |
| 21:49.49 | Knaledge | problem I have is this: |
| 21:49.51 | Knaledge | svn: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 21:49.52 | orionshock | Zhinjio: no standard method |
| 21:49.52 | Knaledge | svn: Target path does not exist |
| 21:49.54 | Knaledge | logout |
| 21:49.56 | Knaledge | [Process completed] |
| 21:50.04 | Knaledge | errors like that suck because it makes the entire script stop... |
| 21:50.08 | hyperChipmunk | means your addon got moved |
| 21:50.12 | hyperChipmunk | Knaledge: do this: |
| 21:50.14 | NightHawkTheSane | use a real scripting language, and not bash? |
| 21:50.22 | Nacklebert | doh |
| 21:50.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i suggest perl or python |
| 21:50.24 | hyperChipmunk | no, that's svn |
| 21:50.24 | Knaledge | NHTS piss off |
| 21:50.27 | Knaledge | seriously |
| 21:50.34 | hyperChipmunk | doing svn on a glob stops it |
| 21:50.35 | orionshock | Zhinjio: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table |
| 21:50.38 | hyperChipmunk | on first error |
| 21:50.44 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.44 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.44 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.49 | hyperChipmunk | that's my update script |
| 21:51.03 | Zhinjio | yeah, I'm there orionshock. |
| 21:51.05 | charon | you can't really do anything on a glob since they're expanded by the shell |
| 21:51.10 | hyperChipmunk | tolerates errors |
| 21:51.13 | Funkeh` | ulic, no |
| 21:51.15 | charon | but i guess that's being picky :) |
| 21:51.18 | Zhinjio | I guess I'll try and implement it and see how it behaves with selected items, etc. |
| 21:51.18 | hyperChipmunk | and doesn't show unnecessary output |
| 21:51.21 | Zhinjio | thanks. |
| 21:51.30 | Knaledge | so where do I place that in my script then? |
| 21:51.51 | hyperChipmunk | that should be your entire script |
| 21:51.59 | orionshock | Zhinjio: that method is used for alot, from the CLI interface to dewdrop to waterfall, and now AddonPreferances (rock config) |
| 21:52.05 | hyperChipmunk | update part, at least |
| 21:52.19 | hyperChipmunk | that replaces svn up * |
| 21:52.24 | Knaledge | well my "script" is just essentially executing the app from its location against my folder |
| 21:52.34 | Knaledge | so I just put... |
| 21:52.46 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.47 | hyperChipmunk | change 'svn up' to 'for i in *; do svn update $i; done' |
| 21:52.49 | Nacklebert | hrm, seems cyCircled has issues with OmniCC and Dr Damage. Anything that adds text overlay to buttons. |
| 21:53.10 | hyperChipmunk | er, change 'svn up *' that is |
| 21:53.19 | Knaledge | ok let me try that |
| 21:53.28 | Nacklebert | or maybe the other way around, since the text is there, just cutoff by the circlular icon |
| 21:53.35 | Tuller | well, OmniCC is set to be toplevel + I manually set the framelevel of the text frames to be quite high by default :P |
| 21:53.58 | hyperChipmunk | the grep and all is just so it only shows lines beginning with a single letter followed by whitespace |
| 21:54.05 | hyperChipmunk | which are really the only lines i tend to care about |
| 21:54.32 | Knaledge | syntax error near unexpected token `do' |
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| 21:54.59 | hyperChipmunk | you have to have a semicolon or newline after the for |
| 21:55.04 | Knaledge | do I need to make it look like |
| 21:55.05 | hyperChipmunk | for i in *; do ... |
| 21:55.14 | hyperChipmunk | for i in * |
| 21:55.16 | hyperChipmunk | do ... |
| 21:55.19 | Knaledge | for i in *; do svn update $i; done |
| 21:55.22 | Knaledge | thats what I have |
| 21:55.23 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 21:55.29 | Knaledge | so the script is now.. |
| 21:55.36 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.37 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.42 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 21:55.46 | hyperChipmunk | er |
| 21:55.48 | Knaledge | yeah thats the error I get |
| 21:55.51 | hyperChipmunk | nono |
| 21:56.00 | hyperChipmunk | why do you have /usr/local/bin/for? |
| 21:56.07 | Knaledge | heh... one sec |
| 21:56.16 | Knaledge | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ |
| 21:56.19 | Knaledge | that is why |
| 21:56.26 | Knaledge | just going off their examples.. never "grew out of it" |
| 21:56.31 | hyperChipmunk | for is a shell command |
| 21:56.45 | hyperChipmunk | and /usr/local/bin should be in your path anywy |
| 21:56.51 | Knaledge | this is on a Mac if it makes a difference |
| 21:56.55 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't |
| 21:57.03 | Knaledge | ok it's three lines |
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| 21:57.15 | hyperChipmunk | for doesn't need a path |
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| 21:57.16 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.25 | hyperChipmunk | svn might, if /usr/local/bin isn't in your path |
| 21:57.29 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.43 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.49 | Knaledge | (third line based on your feedback) |
| 21:58.07 | hyperChipmunk | for i in *; do /usr/local/bin/svn update $i; done |
| 21:58.15 | Knaledge | ah ok nice |
| 21:58.16 | CIA-12 | 03grapz * r51914 10FuBar_GrindFu/GrindFu.lua: |
| 21:58.16 | CIA-12 | FuBar_GrindFu: |
| 21:58.16 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.16 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.26 | Knaledge | yeah that makes sense. let me try that |
| 21:59.13 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.37 | hyperChipmunk | i actually do two runs, myself |
| 21:59.42 | Knaledge | really? |
| 21:59.51 | Knaledge | I have a separate script that grabs all addons initially |
| 22:00.03 | hyperChipmunk | first one --without-externals to get all the tocs and stuff |
| 22:00.04 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.17 | Knaledge | I grab all libs and externals there |
| 22:00.19 | hyperChipmunk | then i can start up wow while it takes the externals |
| 22:00.24 | Knaledge | then just run that 3 line updater |
| 22:00.32 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, don't worry about it |
| 22:00.41 | JCinDE | Are Dewdrop and Tablet are going to remain separate or will they become part of Rock? |
| 22:00.42 | hyperChipmunk | you're having enough troubles >8) |
| 22:00.44 | Knaledge | heh |
| 22:01.01 | Knaledge | I was trying -N |
| 22:01.15 | Knaledge | for recursive |
| 22:01.46 | orionshock | JCinDE: it has not been decided or been done |
| 22:01.59 | JCinDE | ok |
| 22:02.55 | hyperChipmunk | "Peacekeeper Jadaar: Should you venture outside the gates, hunter, be alert; a garishly-dressed troll may attempt to approach you. Leave him to his exile where he rightly belongs." |
| 22:03.19 | Knaledge | heh |
| 22:03.22 | Knaledge | 2.3 he's back inside |
| 22:03.36 | hyperChipmunk | i find it ironic that he makes sure to protect me from Griftah, but makes no mention of HUGE GIGANTIC SPIDERS and WALKING UNDEAD |
| 22:04.02 | hyperChipmunk | but by all means, look out for the garishly dressed troll! |
| 22:04.19 | CIA-12 | 03Tristan * r51915 10Fizzlebag/Core.lua: |
| 22:04.19 | CIA-12 | Fizzlebag: |
| 22:04.19 | CIA-12 | -Fix for bank items (Moving something from one slot in bank to another didn't update correctly) |
| 22:04.23 | Toadkiller | lol |
| 22:04.41 | Toadkiller | What about the Evil Moths? |
| 22:04.47 | hyperChipmunk | them too |
| 22:04.52 | Knaledge | hyperChipmunk: thanks that worked beautifully |
| 22:04.57 | hyperChipmunk | and basilisks and bloodthirsty wolves |
| 22:05.00 | hyperChipmunk | Knaledge: good deal |
| 22:05.24 | Knaledge | do changelogs also have a revision tag on them? |
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| 22:06.39 | Knaledge | currently I have to grab all the changelogs via sort of the same method but they alllll get grabbed, regardless of last update. makes it impossible for me to sort by modified to get pseudo "let's see what was updated" |
| 22:13.44 | hyperChipmunk | Lord Illidan Stormrage: So you have defeated the Crimson Sigil. You now seek to challenge my rule? Not even Arthas could defeat me, yet you dare to even harbor such thoughts? Then I say to you, come! Come Fizzlepop! The Black Temple awaits..." |
| 22:13.58 | hyperChipmunk | if i were a demon hunter, i would refuse to say that name |
| 22:14.03 | Kemayo | Totally. |
| 22:14.16 | Kemayo | "Come Lolbakstab!" |
| 22:14.25 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: hah, indeed |
| 22:14.31 | kenlyric|laptop | Come Bottoms? |
| 22:14.57 | kenlyric|laptop | I must level that pally just to see that. |
| 22:15.10 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 22:15.15 | hyperChipmunk | the server went down |
| 22:15.27 | hyperChipmunk | apparently fizzlepop was too much for him |
| 22:15.43 | NightHawkTheSane | fizzlepop is clearly too much for anyone |
| 22:19.37 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51916 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Make the minimap line drawing toggle work. |
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| 22:21.52 | elusif | does anyone know the code string for a rogues default stance |
| 22:21.55 | elusif | i need it for |
| 22:21.56 | elusif | local form=ItemRack_GetForm() if form=="Aquatic Form" and IR_FORM~=form then EquipSet() IR_FORM=form end --[[Equip a set when in aquatic form.]] |
| 22:22.09 | Gngsk | default stance? |
| 22:22.12 | elusif | yes |
| 22:22.15 | elusif | when not in stealth |
| 22:22.22 | elusif | the button to destealth is also called stealth |
| 22:22.40 | elusif | i'm using itemrack to equip a dagger in my mainhand when in stealth |
| 22:22.49 | elusif | and it changes it back to a sword when i manually destealth |
| 22:22.51 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.04 | Gngsk | returns nil if you're not stealthed |
| 22:23.05 | orionshock | when not stealthed |
| 22:23.09 | elusif | but if i'm intercepted in stealth by someone and they knock me out of it |
| 22:23.14 | Gngsk | else returns "Stealth" |
| 22:23.18 | elusif | it won't put the swords back in there |
| 22:23.29 | elusif | sorry can you insert that in the code from me |
| 22:23.35 | elusif | i'm just editing someone elses code |
| 22:23.46 | orionshock | change it to "if form == nil then ... |
| 22:23.49 | elusif | ok getform whil stealth |
| 22:24.07 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51917 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Remove a pair of () that shouldn't have been there. |
| 22:24.11 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51918 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (5 files): BigWigs: ZulAman: add Akil'zon module |
| 22:24.45 | orionshock | lolz - ZA isn't even out and we got boss mods for em |
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| 22:24.59 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51919 10BigWigs/modules.xml: BigWigs: missed a bit |
| 22:25.04 | CIA-12 | 03yhwh * r51920 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 22:25.04 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 22:25.04 | CIA-12 | - |
| 22:25.04 | CIA-12 | - update zhCN locale |
| 22:25.11 | Gngsk | orionshock, it's on the PTR, might as well be out |
| 22:25.22 | Funkeh` | orionshock, I have them al done locally basically |
| 22:25.34 | elusif | orionshock and gngsk - i will try that tyvm |
| 22:25.44 | Knaledge | funkeh': how do you ever account for the timers etc? |
| 22:25.51 | Knaledge | do you some how.. parse a log or something? |
| 22:25.58 | Gngsk | yes |
| 22:25.58 | Knaledge | touch and go? |
| 22:26.04 | Gngsk | there's a mod |
| 22:26.06 | durcyn | Transcript. |
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| 22:26.11 | Knaledge | ah nice |
| 22:26.12 | Gngsk | transcript0r |
| 22:26.15 | Knaledge | always wondered that |
| 22:26.24 | sb | mhh |
| 22:26.29 | Knaledge | also - is it myth/fact that Blizzard changes timerso n encounters periodically? |
| 22:26.31 | sb | 4 / 6 killed in ZA ;o |
| 22:26.34 | Knaledge | my guild firmly believes this |
| 22:26.46 | Knaledge | I think it's tin hat |
| 22:26.47 | durcyn | your guild is stupid |
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| 22:27.05 | Funkeh` | Knaledge, In patches, yes, not without patches |
| 22:27.08 | Knaledge | I should say, a few in my guild |
| 22:27.25 | Knaledge | so this is indeed practiced? is it a global thing? |
| 22:27.35 | Knaledge | like... a daily, globl thing that occurs generally in all patches? |
| 22:27.38 | Knaledge | or are we talking like |
| 22:27.50 | Knaledge | they specifically "fix" or alter a specific timer ona specific encounter? |
| 22:27.52 | NightHawkTheSane | "daily" and "occurs in a patch" is contradictory |
| 22:28.01 | Knaledge | NTHS - diaf |
| 22:28.26 | NightHawkTheSane | love you too. :D |
| 22:28.37 | Knaledge | I think I'll make some sort of script that floods that to you whenever you talk |
| 22:28.44 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 22:28.45 | Knaledge | since you never offer anything constructive, ever. |
| 22:28.49 | orionshock | Knaledge: they only change timers when there is a patch to be put out |
| 22:28.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Knaledge: please do. |
| 22:28.58 | Knaledge | seriously, people talk shit about you all the time |
| 22:29.01 | Knaledge | hope you know that |
| 22:29.04 | NightHawkTheSane | I do |
| 22:29.07 | NightHawkTheSane | I don' |
| 22:29.07 | Knaledge | good. |
| 22:29.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't care. ":) |
| 22:29.14 | Knaledge | clearly. |
| 22:29.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I have no need or desire to be liked. |
| 22:29.42 | Knaledge | orionshock: so this is a global thing then? |
| 22:29.53 | Knaledge | not just per boss, specifically |
| 22:29.53 | Funkeh` | Knaledge, Just randomly, not frequently, but they don't often change timers for content thats been out for a while |
| 22:30.06 | Funkeh` | e.g. grull |
| 22:30.07 | durcyn | Knaledge: usually it's just mistakes. i.e. al'ar and sapphiron in 2.2 were unintended |
| 22:30.35 | orionshock | Knaledge: you use of the word global has the wrong context |
| 22:30.46 | Xinhuan | durcyn: did you see how nefarian was broken? lol |
| 22:30.47 | Knaledge | well I mean to say more like |
| 22:30.56 | Xinhuan | the druid class call affected the entire raid, 40 cats |
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| 22:31.03 | Knaledge | they don't discriminate against which boss gets a timer adjustment |
| 22:31.05 | Xinhuan | in patch 2.2 |
| 22:31.30 | Knaledge | sort of ... "daily maintenance" across all encounters? like "hey its time to randomize all the timers again to foil BigWigs, DBM, etc" |
| 22:31.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: that happened to the warrior class call in a previous patch too, didn't it |
| 22:31.35 | Xinhuan | i think so |
| 22:31.43 | Xinhuan | its weird how stuff like that breaks |
| 22:32.19 | Funkeh` | Knaledge, The timers are already random, so they don't need to |
| 22:32.40 | orionshock | Knaledge: it's random as far as we are conserned. if bliz decides that they think alot of guild are having a problem with an encounter because of it's design then they will adjust it |
| 22:32.41 | Funkeh` | They just make a timer and set a random finisher e.g. 40-50sec |
| 22:33.07 | orionshock | but for all we know they could just say "Fuck it" and touch all the timers to something else ... and we'd be fucked |
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| 22:33.37 | Knaledge | ah ok - so if oyu follow me, the logic used by a few of my guildies is that "blizzard changes timers on each boss encounter every tuesday so that mods like DBM and BigWigs always have to adjust - stops them from cheesing it" |
| 22:33.46 | Knaledge | which to me... seems like a waste of resources. |
| 22:33.57 | Knaledge | they use that logic to explain why somtimes timers are "off" |
| 22:33.58 | CIA-12 | 03nogudnik * r51921 10Skillet/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:33.58 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 22:33.58 | CIA-12 | - Added more hook methods: BeforeRecipeButtonShow()/BeforeRecipeButtonHide() |
| 22:34.03 | orionshock | Knaledge: it is, it would be assinine |
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| 22:34.17 | Knaledge | well thts what I was thinking |
| 22:34.19 | Funkeh` | Nah, theres no chance they change it very week |
| 22:34.24 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 22:34.29 | Knaledge | so the timers being off is just... |
| 22:34.31 | Knaledge | ? |
| 22:34.34 | orionshock | chance yes - always... but all of them? |
| 22:34.36 | Knaledge | randomization? |
| 22:34.36 | orionshock | no |
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| 22:34.47 | Funkeh` | its just blizzards new style, random boss timers |
| 22:34.53 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 22:34.55 | Funkeh` | We try our best by only timing the cooldowns |
| 22:35.01 | Knaledge | and you just try and pad the timers a bit |
| 22:35.02 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 22:35.07 | Funkeh` | So basically a lot of abilities can happen' any time after the bar expires' |
| 22:35.24 | CIA-12 | 03yhwh * r51922 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 22:35.24 | CIA-12 | Skillet: |
| 22:35.24 | CIA-12 | - |
| 22:35.24 | CIA-12 | - update zhCN locale |
| 22:35.36 | Knaledge | yeah I noticed this shift in logic on DBM/BW end of "such and such SOON" rather than |
| 22:35.42 | Knaledge | "such and such in 10 seconds" |
| 22:35.48 | kenlyric|laptop | the difference is that just because a timer is ready doesn't mean the boss will use it right away. |
| 22:36.07 | Knaledge | so the final summation being... |
| 22:36.13 | Knaledge | those guildies of mine = tin hats? |
| 22:36.14 | orionshock | IE - maiden, repentance timer is always aprroximate because she doesnt' always use it wehn the CD is up |
| 22:36.47 | Funkeh` | Knaledge, pretty much |
| 22:37.23 | kenlyric|laptop | yes. but onyxia does deep breath more. |
| 22:39.25 | orionshock | LOL |
| 22:39.39 | orionshock | so i go over and portal steal a alliance kill - twice.... |
| 22:40.07 | orionshock | & so he follows me for a min or so and attempts to portal steal me... and puts the portal in the wrong place >.> |
| 22:40.33 | orionshock | helped me get 3 kills for free |
| 22:40.47 | Knaledge | what is portal stealing? |
| 22:40.53 | Knaledge | rather.. how does that apply to kills? |
| 22:41.00 | kenlyric|laptop | you got a portal in wow? |
| 22:41.01 | kenlyric|laptop | hax! |
| 22:41.07 | kenlyric|laptop | send please |
| 22:41.13 | orionshock | Knaledge: Banish more demons daily quest |
| 22:41.23 | Knaledge | ah |
| 22:41.28 | orionshock | it's not who the mob is tap'ed to , but what portal is closer |
| 22:41.57 | orionshock | -- and funny enough the alliance nub that i screwed over a bit -- my roommate is in the same guild |
| 22:41.59 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51923 10AutoBar/ (15 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:41.59 | CIA-12 | AutoBar: |
| 22:41.59 | CIA-12 | -- 2.02.03.7 beta |
| 22:41.59 | CIA-12 | -- Added "Buff Spells: Weapon" category. Shaman only right now. If your class has a weapon buffing spell post it. |
| 22:42.01 | CIA-12 | -- Apply styles to popup buttons as well. |
| 22:42.03 | CIA-12 | -- Fix AutoBar/Bars Button Width / Height / Alpha / Rows / Columns / Popup Direction |
| 22:42.05 | CIA-12 | -- Fix AutoBar/Show Count Text & AutoBar/Show Hotkey Text settings |
| 22:42.46 | xyu | orionshock: do you know if i have to be honored to get that quest? the banish one? |
| 22:42.49 | xyu | i can't seem to get it |
| 22:42.58 | orionshock | xyu yes |
| 22:42.59 | Toadkiller | honored |
| 22:43.49 | xyu | k thx |
| 22:46.30 | kebinusan | Can anyone help me disable this supermassive tooltip with mendeleev? http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4427/wowscrnshot101307145619jc7.jpg |
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| 22:47.46 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: does mendeleev not have a toggle for that info? |
| 22:48.08 | kebinusan | not that Ive seen, theres heroic loots and such |
| 22:48.18 | kebinusan | but its really only a problem for things that drops from every boss |
| 22:48.24 | kebinusan | like badges I guess |
| 22:48.38 | kebinusan | and disabling the instanceheroicloot set for an instance doesnt make that part of the tooltip go away |
| 22:49.22 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the only easy solutions I can think of involve toggling some in-mod options, or going in and editing the code. :\ |
| 22:49.38 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51924 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Nalorakk.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Nalorakk: Proper timers |
| 22:49.46 | NightHawkTheSane | But it might not be that hard to go in and add a manual 'exception list' of things to ignore |
| 22:50.21 | kebinusan | yeah easiest way for me seems to be to find the pt set its pulling from and do bad things to it |
| 22:50.33 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, there is that too, i suppose |
| 22:50.41 | kebinusan | I figured maybe someone else was annoyed with mile high tooltips |
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| 22:51.01 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i don't use mendeleev, so. :) |
| 22:51.11 | Knaledge | is there a way in cyCircled to get it to ignore the blank buttons in a bar? |
| 22:51.48 | Knaledge | I mouse over a blank button in a bar and it puts the "skin" on that button until I move my mouse away from it |
| 22:52.39 | Knaledge | BT3 + cyCircled if that matters |
| 22:52.52 | Knaledge | also cyCircled seems to not honor the skin settings for BT3 |
| 22:53.06 | Knaledge | I tell it to ignore my bagbar and it still puts the skin on it, even after /rl |
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| 22:59.19 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: I can still drag casts off my BT bars even when button lock is enabled |
| 23:00.27 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r51925 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: |
| 23:00.27 | CIA-12 | Mendeleev: |
| 23:00.27 | CIA-12 | - ScanCraft was checking item links for "item:(%d+)"; should be "enchant:(%d+)" because Enchanting is the only craft. (Okay, okay, pet training. Cry me a river.) |
| 23:01.40 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51926 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Nalorakk.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Nalorakk: Normal & engage timers |
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| 23:04.48 | expiation | is prot ok for leveling or is ret the clear best for paladin? |
| 23:05.48 | orionshock | your first problem is that it's a pally |
| 23:06.09 | orionshock | fix that and try again :D |
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| 23:06.37 | orionshock | but otherwise ya, ret is the lvling spec |
| 23:08.52 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51927 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Make the worldmap and battlemap line drawing toggle work. |
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| 23:09.27 | expiation | im switchin to horde wanted to heal but not level another druid so paladin was pretty much the choice lol |
| 23:09.56 | orionshock | mage |
| 23:10.26 | kenlyric|laptop | zomg |
| 23:10.36 | kenlyric|laptop | they cut a line out of family guy :/ |
| 23:10.42 | expiation | lol mage healer? |
| 23:11.07 | kenlyric|laptop | whack a guy? off a guy? whack off a guy? |
| 23:11.15 | kenlyric|laptop | the cut out the last one. |
| 23:11.49 | orionshock | why roll healer. |
| 23:12.03 | Chompers | healing's great |
| 23:12.12 | expiation | yea its fun |
| 23:12.29 | expiation | i leveled up my druid restor and because of that i cant bring myself to make another one lol |
| 23:12.42 | orionshock | lvling as a resto druid blows |
| 23:12.56 | kenlyric|laptop | i don't understand why people do that. |
| 23:12.58 | expiation | sure does |
| 23:13.09 | kenlyric|laptop | what possible instance is so hard levelling up that you can't heal it as a dps spec? |
| 23:13.14 | Trell_ | nub question; can I join the LFG chat channel without being queued in the LFG tool? |
| 23:13.19 | orionshock | <insert obligatory "your a dumbass" comment here > |
| 23:13.25 | Trell_ | doesnt seem to want to allow me to do it via /join LookingForGroup |
| 23:13.40 | orionshock | Trell_: the 2 are tied togeather |
| 23:13.49 | Trell_ | bleh |
| 23:13.51 | orionshock | so go LFG for ony |
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| 23:14.03 | orionshock | no one will find you :P |
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| 23:14.44 | Trell_ | i usually do that, but we're doing mandokir again |
| 23:14.48 | Trell_ | and the leaeder is on the phone |
| 23:14.53 | expiation | or for a lame zone that nobody goes to |
| 23:15.12 | Knaledge | hey xinhuan |
| 23:15.17 | Knaledge | you said your profiler thing.. |
| 23:15.17 | Xinhuan | whats up |
| 23:15.21 | Knaledge | it can do wishlists right? |
| 23:15.26 | Xinhuan | uh |
| 23:15.39 | Xinhuan | kind of |
| 23:15.51 | Knaledge | as in... create a "profile" and then give it items I might want? |
| 23:15.59 | Xinhuan | ever used ctprofiles before? |
| 23:16.02 | Xinhuan | works about the same |
| 23:16.04 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 23:16.14 | Knaledge | ok so would THAT functionality cover a sort of.. |
| 23:16.17 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8317.0 |
| 23:16.23 | Xinhuan | check that |
| 23:16.30 | Knaledge | I'm on my bank alt and... want to see if a piece of gear is good for my main? |
| 23:16.33 | Xinhuan | although its kinda old the screenshot, i should replace it |
| 23:16.41 | Knaledge | I would create a profile that duplicates my main's gear.. |
| 23:16.50 | Xinhuan | yes, you can create as many profiles as you want |
| 23:16.57 | Knaledge | then pull up ludwig or the auction house, etc. and then compare gear that way? |
| 23:16.57 | Xinhuan | and load/save them on any char |
| 23:17.02 | Knaledge | awesome.. |
| 23:17.06 | Xinhuan | and even send them to another player |
| 23:17.11 | Knaledge | would that then allow ratingbuster to compare between.. |
| 23:17.16 | Knaledge | oh shit.. nvm |
| 23:17.25 | Xinhuan | rating buster only compares "tooltip vs equipped" |
| 23:17.26 | Knaledge | ratingbuster woud still try and compare to gear equipped |
| 23:17.27 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51928 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Halazzi: Add approximate timer bars |
| 23:17.31 | Knaledge | damnit |
| 23:17.46 | Xinhuan | with my addon, you can compare against 1. Nothing 2. Equipped 3. Another profile you select |
| 23:18.03 | Knaledge | ah ok so I COULD ..oh no wait.. stupid raingbuster |
| 23:18.10 | Knaledge | would still only check against equipped. |
| 23:18.18 | Xinhuan | just use both |
| 23:18.24 | Xinhuan | i recommend it anyway |
| 23:18.31 | Knaledge | well I like RB and the idea of your mod |
| 23:18.45 | Knaledge | I just honestly wish I could compare gear in RB between pieces |
| 23:18.52 | NimbleRabit | Antiarc: why is it hemlock needs to scan poisons like 50% of the time I logon |
| 23:19.00 | Xinhuan | i'm just wondering if i should add in some loop/script to auto query the server of all 35000 items |
| 23:19.02 | Xinhuan | 2 per second |
| 23:19.17 | Knaledge | might cause disconnects though wouldnt it? |
| 23:19.26 | Xinhuan | doesn't d/c you anymore |
| 23:19.27 | Xinhuan | in 2.2 |
| 23:19.30 | Knaledge | ah really? |
| 23:19.36 | Xinhuan | unless you try to query like 100 items per sec |
| 23:19.36 | Knaledge | why did they change that? |
| 23:19.42 | Xinhuan | in which the server will d/c you for spam |
| 23:19.43 | Knaledge | oh no I meant |
| 23:19.46 | Knaledge | invalid links or items unseen yet |
| 23:19.57 | Xinhuan | if you query an invalid or unseen item, nothing happens. |
| 23:20.04 | Knaledge | oh wow |
| 23:20.06 | Xinhuan | simply doesn't d/c you anymore |
| 23:20.12 | Knaledge | well thats a welcome cahnge |
| 23:20.19 | Xinhuan | so its cheese to write a loop from itemID 34150 -> 1 |
| 23:20.20 | cryogen | people were abusing it in arenas |
| 23:20.23 | Xinhuan | and query every item |
| 23:20.23 | expiation | i take it ur a mage orionshock? |
| 23:20.39 | Xinhuan | query 2 items per second |
| 23:20.45 | Xinhuan | and it'll only take about 2-3 hours to get every item |
| 23:20.47 | Xinhuan | into your local cache |
| 23:21.02 | Knaledge | would that be better included in Ludwig, for example? |
| 23:21.05 | Knaledge | as opposed to yours? |
| 23:21.13 | Xinhuan | i can't really answer that |
| 23:21.16 | Knaledge | or do you also pull info from cache like Ludwig? |
| 23:21.33 | Xinhuan | it pulls from your Cache\WDB\enUS folder |
| 23:21.38 | Xinhuan | i.e items you've seen before |
| 23:21.42 | Xinhuan | since the patch |
| 23:21.42 | Knaledge | ah ok so it wouldn't matter |
| 23:21.45 | kenlyric|laptop | the best way to do it. |
| 23:21.58 | Knaledge | yeah I liked how LootLink kept a running tab on things but.. |
| 23:22.03 | Knaledge | .since switching to ludwig |
| 23:22.11 | Knaledge | I kind of see how this is a bit better |
| 23:22.23 | kenlyric|laptop | the 15mb of ram usage can be a problem with lootlink :) |
| 23:22.23 | Knaledge | it is annoying though when I can't find simple things like |
| 23:22.26 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51929 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Halazzi: Add approximate engage timer also |
| 23:22.31 | Knaledge | Shadowprowler's Chestguard |
| 23:22.39 | Knaledge | even though I know it's craftable, ec. |
| 23:22.50 | Knaledge | just lame how somehow, some way, I never "saw" that item |
| 23:23.08 | Knaledge | not sure how that could be remedied other than seeing the item (duh) or using LootLink |
| 23:23.19 | Xinhuan | or just write said function that loops |
| 23:23.29 | Xinhuan | and quries the server |
| 23:23.32 | Knaledge | I guess with Ludwig the only complaint is that.. you know.. the above. Lame how I haven't seen a simple item somehow |
| 23:23.40 | expiation | orionshock? |
| 23:23.41 | Knaledge | I would like that actually |
| 23:23.53 | Knaledge | but i would want a ... stop/resume function for sure |
| 23:24.24 | Xinhuan | might include something in wowequip, dunno |
| 23:24.32 | Xinhuan | trying to get Routes out to release first |
| 23:24.39 | Knaledge | yeah I saw that |
| 23:24.47 | Knaledge | isn't that the thing grum or.. someone was working on essentially? |
| 23:24.49 | stavmar | do we need autobar config with the latest autobar, i cannot seem to find that information |
| 23:24.54 | Xinhuan | yep, but i joined him |
| 23:24.58 | Knaledge | cool |
| 23:24.58 | expiation | blood elf mage or undead mage :D |
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| 23:25.09 | Knaledge | I honestly just wish RB would do what I want it to do |
| 23:25.13 | Knaledge | or some other addon |
| 23:25.28 | Knaledge | I can't think of a workaround..... comparing two items 1:1 |
| 23:25.44 | Knaledge | something as simple as a .... like call it BattleRoyale |
| 23:25.48 | Xinhuan | you could do it indirectly with wowequip |
| 23:25.55 | Knaledge | a simple box with to slot items... |
| 23:26.08 | Xinhuan | by indirectly, it means creating a profile with 1 equipped item |
| 23:26.15 | Knaledge | drag one item into one, another into the other. tooltip displays underneath using RB info that shows diffence in stats |
| 23:26.15 | orionshock | stavmar: no |
| 23:26.17 | Xinhuan | then creating a 2nd with another equiped item |
| 23:26.19 | Xinhuan | and show the difference ;p |
| 23:26.24 | Knaledge | lol |
| 23:26.26 | Xinhuan | between the 2 profiles |
| 23:26.29 | Knaledge | yeah but to do that I need the actual items |
| 23:26.37 | Knaledge | for RB to work that is |
| 23:26.38 | Xinhuan | you would only need the itemlinks |
| 23:26.54 | Knaledge | but how would you trick RB into.. comparing ? |
| 23:27.02 | stavmar | orionshock: ty |
| 23:27.14 | Xinhuan | there's a function in StatLogicLib that compares item1 to item2 |
| 23:27.16 | Knaledge | I wouldn't be able to compare one item to the other profile because itd still be seeing my equipped item |
| 23:27.20 | Xinhuan | and returns a difference table |
| 23:27.22 | orionshock | Knaledge: don't use rb |
| 23:27.31 | orionshock | wowe does it for you |
| 23:27.35 | Xinhuan | RatingBuster uses this function, but always gives item2 as one of your equipped items |
| 23:27.45 | Knaledge | ah |
| 23:27.52 | Xinhuan | so its more of a "contact author add feature" thing |
| 23:27.56 | Knaledge | so you're sayig... you might be willing at some point to implement this functionality? |
| 23:27.59 | Knaledge | into your thing? |
| 23:28.03 | expiation | are you a mage orionshock? |
| 23:28.07 | Xinhuan | ratingbuster isn't my addon |
| 23:28.14 | orionshock | nope |
| 23:28.15 | Knaledge | item1 vs item 2? |
| 23:28.16 | orionshock | feral druid |
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| 23:28.25 | Knaledge | no I mean in WoWEquip |
| 23:28.35 | expiation | how come you suggested mage then lol |
| 23:28.39 | Knaledge | you said there's a roundabout way to do it with yours but.. |
| 23:28.41 | Xinhuan | maybe, unlikely.. the addon is more for comparing profiles.. not single items |
| 23:28.47 | Knaledge | wait but |
| 23:28.51 | Knaledge | does your thing do what RB does? |
| 23:28.56 | Knaledge | stat breakdown etc.? |
| 23:29.06 | Xinhuan | did you follow the link? |
| 23:29.09 | Xinhuan | and see the SS? |
| 23:29.19 | Knaledge | it failed |
| 23:29.21 | Knaledge | 404 |
| 23:29.27 | Xinhuan | F5 refresh |
| 23:29.50 | Knaledge | ah there it is |
| 23:29.57 | Knaledge | ok so based on this SS... |
| 23:30.01 | Knaledge | let's try this |
| 23:30.11 | Knaledge | so you're saying.. I'm a rogue I have.. chestguard of the conniver |
| 23:30.23 | Knaledge | I want to compare how T5 chest stacks up against say... |
| 23:30.28 | Knaledge | Arena Season 2 chest |
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| 23:30.38 | Knaledge | I create one profile using AS2 chest |
| 23:30.45 | stavmar | orionshock: Ratingsbuster is built in witht he game now? |
| 23:30.47 | Knaledge | another profile using T5 chest.. |
| 23:30.48 | orionshock | expiation: cuz im an ass |
| 23:30.52 | stavmar | with the game* |
| 23:30.53 | orionshock | stavmar: no |
| 23:30.57 | Knaledge | and then... ? |
| 23:31.17 | Xinhuan | and then you load 1 profile and choose the other to compare against |
| 23:31.20 | orionshock | Knaledge: ya you'd create 2 profiles |
| 23:31.24 | Xinhuan | and the numbers in the brackets () |
| 23:31.26 | Knaledge | ah. hrm |
| 23:31.27 | Xinhuan | shows the difference |
| 23:31.30 | Xinhuan | between them |
| 23:31.37 | Knaledge | can I add gems to each item as well? |
| 23:31.40 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 23:31.42 | Xinhuan | any gem |
| 23:31.43 | Knaledge | are you able to fake that somehow? |
| 23:31.45 | Xinhuan | about 205 of them |
| 23:31.45 | Knaledge | oh nice |
| 23:31.55 | Xinhuan | set bonuses and gem bonuses included |
| 23:31.58 | Knaledge | whats the interface for that like? |
| 23:32.02 | Xinhuan | right click menu |
| 23:32.04 | Knaledge | toggles? drop downs? |
| 23:32.06 | Knaledge | cool |
| 23:32.10 | Knaledge | hrm. |
| 23:32.20 | Knaledge | what kind of overhead am I looking at with it? |
| 23:32.32 | Knaledge | AtlasLoot uses 3.00~ MB of UI mem just idle... |
| 23:32.34 | Xinhuan | about 230k base |
| 23:32.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: it would be really handy if you had an existing way of comparing a single item to an existing profile. One of the ways I hoped to use wowequip is to compare an item ddrop to a set of gear i have in the bank. |
| 23:32.42 | Xinhuan | maybe a bit more |
| 23:32.52 | NightHawkTheSane | or a set that i'm not currently wearing, at least, to see how it affects my overall stats |
| 23:32.53 | Knaledge | whats your ceiling? like 2MB? |
| 23:32.55 | NimbleRabit | who makes postal? |
| 23:32.59 | Knaledge | curious about growth is all |
| 23:33.06 | Xinhuan | NightHawkTheSane: you can choose what profile to compare against |
| 23:33.18 | Xinhuan | so you can always save it like itemrack and compare against that |
| 23:33.38 | Xinhuan | the "C" button at the top has 3 options |
| 23:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: yeah, but I didn't immediately see an easy way to compare a single item against the set? |
| 23:33.51 | NightHawkTheSane | without creating a new profile that is |
| 23:34.10 | Xinhuan | well you 1. load the set 2. set the same set to compare against 3. ctrl-click the link into wowequip |
| 23:34.13 | Xinhuan | TADA |
| 23:34.31 | Xinhuan | simple? |
| 23:34.35 | Knaledge | kind of |
| 23:34.47 | Knaledge | would be nice to have a "dumb slot" in the main interface |
| 23:34.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, ah, so it'll register ctrl-click and "equip" that item as if you had actually put it on with that set |
| 23:34.56 | NightHawkTheSane | wasn't aware of that |
| 23:35.08 | Xinhuan | yes, if the wowequip window is open, ctrl-clicking an item/itemlink will throw it into wowequip |
| 23:35.15 | Knaledge | main UI of WoWe that is |
| 23:35.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ill have to play around a bit more, thanks though. |
| 23:35.46 | Xinhuan | so 1. load profileA 2. set to compare against profileA 3. modify the loaded profile however you want |
| 23:35.49 | Xinhuan | so you can see the difference |
| 23:35.54 | Knaledge | like a dumb slot that is present in your WoWe UI that allows the user to simply drag or ctrl-click an item into it or something along those lines. |
| 23:36.02 | Xinhuan | but no changes are saved until you actually click "save" |
| 23:36.13 | Knaledge | and then if the item in that dumb slot is a pair of gloves, it'll compare against the gloves slot in the currently loaded profile |
| 23:36.27 | Knaledge | ah |
| 23:36.39 | Xinhuan | i want to implement talent support first before i do anything else |
| 23:36.48 | Xinhuan | so that the derived stats includes talent modification |
| 23:37.01 | Knaledge | would that include base stats as well? |
| 23:37.06 | Knaledge | character stats that is |
| 23:37.15 | Xinhuan | currently it doesn't include base char stats |
| 23:37.16 | Xinhuan | because |
| 23:37.18 | Xinhuan | i don't have the info |
| 23:37.30 | Knaledge | like one thing I dislike about RB is that on my bank alt I can't even compare how good a base item is because it inflates the numbers |
| 23:37.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: oh, how are you coming on base race/class stats anyway? |
| 23:37.44 | Xinhuan | its like 1 in a million to get people to 1. strip naked 2. unbuff 3. untalent 4. post stats |
| 23:37.55 | Xinhuan | for their race/class combo |
| 23:37.59 | Xinhuan | at lvl 70 that is |
| 23:38.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Knaledge: you mean like inflating ratings as they're level-based conversions? RB has an option to use a set level for that |
| 23:38.11 | Knaledge | yah I have changed that option |
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| 23:38.22 | Knaledge | it's more like the raw stat |
| 23:38.34 | Knaledge | it's nitpicky but |
| 23:38.50 | Knaledge | just RB is useless if looking at an item that isn't for you |
| 23:38.51 | Xinhuan | i haven't started coding any talent thing yet, since i'm working on Routes |
| 23:39.05 | Knaledge | Xinhuan: I have a rogue that would do that |
| 23:39.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd be surprised if that setting didn't affect base stat conversions as well, maybe suggest it? |
| 23:39.09 | Knaledge | I was planning on respeccing soon |
| 23:39.20 | orionshock | urg... |
| 23:39.27 | orionshock | this sharatul thing is annoying |
| 23:39.41 | Knaledge | I might |
| 23:40.07 | Xinhuan | so at the moment, WoWEquip just does pure equipment comparisons |
| 23:40.10 | Xinhuan | no base stats involved |
| 23:40.21 | Knaledge | hrm. I wonder if I'm ready to use it then |
| 23:40.22 | Xinhuan | only the stats gained from the equipment is calculated |
| 23:40.31 | Xinhuan | its usable |
| 23:40.38 | Knaledge | because with RB I get ap retty good idea already of tit for tat |
| 23:40.48 | Knaledge | it's that I can't compare against hypothetical gear |
| 23:40.56 | Xinhuan | in fact EJ forums posts that they haven't found any bug and should already be at release quality (heh) |
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| 23:41.13 | Knaledge | I don't doubt its got stability, etc. |
| 23:41.29 | Knaledge | I just don't know if I start using it, if it will satisfy what I am looking for even as the basest of levels |
| 23:41.53 | Knaledge | but I think I will try it out |
| 23:42.01 | Xinhuan | no addon is going to perfectly suit personal needs |
| 23:42.05 | Knaledge | your mods are pretty good so |
| 23:42.16 | Knaledge | well I know that but I don't think what I'm looking for is too wild |
| 23:42.21 | Xinhuan | just like how RatingBuster isn't perfect |
| 23:42.24 | Xinhuan | but its good |
| 23:42.24 | Knaledge | or uncommon |
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| 23:48.17 | orionshock | allirght |
| 23:48.21 | orionshock | got to phase 2 |
| 23:49.38 | Toadkiller | stavmar: No you do not need AUtoBarCOnfig anymore |
| 23:50.04 | sb | Funkeh`: 5 minutes to enrage, 10 minute to berserk - right? |
| 23:50.17 | Funkeh` | sb, ? |
| 23:50.39 | sb | halazzi, just read your commit message in ~-cia ;o |
| 23:50.47 | sb | didnt notice the timestamp |
| 23:51.02 | Funkeh` | no idea, does he? |
| 23:51.10 | Zhinjio | hrm. |
| 23:51.28 | Funkeh` | I'm changing him atm because phases isn't dependant on time but hp |
| 23:51.41 | sb | not sure about that |
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| 23:51.50 | sb | we had enrage at 65% |
| 23:51.53 | sb | and at 50% |
| 23:51.55 | sb | depending on damage |
| 23:52.04 | sb | but it was close to 5 minutes |
| 23:52.22 | Funkeh` | You sure it was Hallazzi? Spirit guy? |
| 23:52.40 | Zhinjio | I want to create a variable name with an index. So if there are going to be 25 buttons, I want to loop through the button creation, and have the creation line be something like: |
| 23:52.47 | sb | ohhh |
| 23:52.48 | sb | meh |
| 23:52.54 | Zhinjio | local ItemButton .. index = CreateFrame( "Button"... |
| 23:52.54 | sb | jan'alai %-) |
| 23:52.55 | sb | nvm :/ |
| 23:53.03 | Zhinjio | is that valid? |
| 23:53.07 | Funkeh` | Bomb Guy? |
| 23:53.12 | sb | yup |
| 23:53.29 | Funkeh` | okay, hes next on the menu for tweaking |
| 23:53.39 | Zhinjio | (assuming index is the loop index from my for statement) |
| 23:54.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Zhinjio: i don't think that's valid, i think you'd have to use a table/array to get the effect you want |
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| 23:55.20 | Zhinjio | hmm. yeah. I guess there's no reason instantiated GUI objects can't be in a table. |
| 23:55.28 | Zhinjio | I'll give it a shot. |
| 23:55.37 | Zhinjio | if it blows up, I blame you! |
| 23:55.38 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 23:56.05 | Xinhuan | local ItemButton .. index = CreateFrame( "Button"... |
| 23:56.08 | Xinhuan | that won't work |
| 23:56.21 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, everyone blames me anyway, nothing new. :) |
| 23:56.21 | Xinhuan | what you want is |
| 23:56.27 | Xinhuan | local ItemButton[index] = CreateFrame( "Button"... |
| 23:56.38 | Xinhuan | or rather, create the table first, then index it |
| 23:56.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: i'm about 90% sure i -just- said that. :) |
| 23:56.49 | Xinhuan | ok you win :) |
| 23:57.06 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i |
| 23:57.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm glad i'm right at least. :) |
| 23:58.03 | RogueShadow | anybody here use auctioneerAdvanced |
| 23:58.23 | [gk]Hotphoenix | yup |
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| 23:59.21 | RogueShadow | How is it |
