| 00:00.00 | Grum | could do ^^ |
| 00:00.05 | Xinhuan | most of the time, the selected continent would be OUTLANDS |
| 00:00.13 | Grum | more work :'( |
| 00:00.15 | Xinhuan | because it doesn't make sense to make routes anywhere else |
| 00:00.17 | Xinhuan | without a flying mount |
| 00:00.21 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 00:00.26 | orionshock | Grum: do u have it currently to auto set to current zone? |
| 00:00.34 | Ellipsis | I don't know if I'd even bother with non-outlands zones |
| 00:00.36 | Grum | to the currently open cartographer zone |
| 00:00.37 | Xinhuan | so there will only be 7 zones really, in the 2nd dropdown |
| 00:00.49 | Ellipsis | the routes will be next to useless unless/until you add the A* stuff |
| 00:00.54 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 00:00.56 | Nandini | it makes perfect sense to have routes elsewhere, since 300 or more skill point can be gained before outland, if you're using routes to level up your skill |
| 00:01.00 | Xinhuan | its only useful in outlands for the most part |
| 00:01.06 | Grum | yeah |
| 00:01.07 | Xinhuan | so just make a continent dropdown |
| 00:01.19 | Nandini | but without obstacle avoidance, it's not useful outside outland |
| 00:01.22 | vhaarr | eh |
| 00:01.23 | Grum | gotto see how Tourist provides me that info |
| 00:01.27 | Nandini | maybe you should call them flight routes |
| 00:01.38 | Nandini | or disable them completely outside outland |
| 00:01.46 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: your argument makes no sense, we're trying to keep things simple here, adding more dropdowns is not the right way of doing that |
| 00:02.07 | Xinhuan | no it makes no sense to exclude zones out of lvl range, especially if i just picked up mining |
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| 00:02.11 | Xinhuan | or herb |
| 00:02.11 | Grum | it should not be simple to code btw |
| 00:02.13 | Xinhuan | and want to lvl it up |
| 00:02.16 | Grum | just simple to use for the user |
| 00:02.20 | vhaarr | oh really grum |
| 00:02.24 | Nandini | routes may cause more harm than good in a non-flyable zone |
| 00:02.46 | vhaarr | fact is that this option is needed, and the simplest solution is limiting level ranges, which would cover most of the uses anyway |
| 00:03.00 | Xinhuan | actually the solution is to just restrict it to Outlands - 7 zones. TADA |
| 00:03.04 | Nandini | what is the benefit of creating a route in azeroth? |
| 00:03.07 | Grum | so what i can do: limit the code to show only the outland zones, preselect one if you have that zone open in cartographer |
| 00:03.28 | Nandini | i think that's a good idea Grum |
| 00:03.33 | vhaarr | nonsense |
| 00:03.33 | Grum | add another setting somewhere which 'unlocks' the other zones as well (and thus 1 more dropdown for continent) |
| 00:03.56 | Nandini | disable all other zones until you can support obstacles |
| 00:04.02 | vhaarr | routes work great in silithus, un'goro, tanaris, badlands, barrens, and many other zones |
| 00:04.06 | Grum | yup |
| 00:04.12 | vhaarr | Grum: I'm not discussing this any more, you know my view |
| 00:04.14 | Sedai| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4x-VW_rCSE |
| 00:04.15 | vhaarr | time for bed |
| 00:04.28 | Grum | vhaarr: double dropdown would be best i guess |
| 00:04.33 | vhaarr | no |
| 00:04.53 | Grum | close in range levelwise sucks because you will not be able to add anything in a lowerlvl zone |
| 00:05.02 | Grum | unless you specificly allow that somehow |
| 00:05.05 | vhaarr | sure you will, if you're there |
| 00:05.12 | vhaarr | current zone preselected |
| 00:05.23 | Grum | so add the current zone and current open zone to the list? |
| 00:05.26 | Nandini | if my level 70 druid has just picked up herbalism and i imported a cart_notes database and want to make a route of silverleaf and peacebloom, can i do that? should i do that? |
| 00:05.27 | vhaarr | obviously |
| 00:06.01 | QuantumDelta | most people know the pre-outland routes by heart anyway |
| 00:06.12 | QuantumDelta | they're 2dimensional and simplistic compared to the ideal outland ones.. |
| 00:06.14 | Grum | Nandini: you should be able to do that by opening the zone in carto with silverleaf/peacebloom nodes and then selecting stuff in the dropdown |
| 00:06.27 | Nandini | presumably i have installed this addon because i do NOT know the pre-outland routes |
| 00:06.42 | QuantumDelta | Hmm. |
| 00:06.45 | Grum | yeah |
| 00:07.03 | Grum | i cant do much for that tbh, its not really feasable to implement 'obstructions' |
| 00:07.24 | QuantumDelta | if you do it all by hand |
| 00:07.25 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 00:07.25 | Nandini | it could be done i think but it would require scouting the map and would take forever |
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| 00:08.04 | Nandini | then you could also add costs for crossing water, crossing areas with elite mobs, you could add all kinds of costs, all increasing the complexity of your TSP algorithm |
| 00:08.21 | Amadeo | Boredom Overwhelming |
| 00:09.21 | Kemayo | Man, I need to work out why oRA2 and Bigwigs aren't communicating with others in my raid. |
| 00:09.31 | Nandini | for example, if i'm in silverpine forest, the last place i want to herb is on that island i have to swim all the way out to |
| 00:09.47 | Nandini | unless i'm a druid with aquatic form or can waterwalk |
| 00:10.17 | Grum | tbh not really doable nor intresting |
| 00:10.17 | Nandini | also, the route would have to take into account that gully i can fall into just about anywhere, but only walk out of in one spot :) |
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| 00:10.33 | QuantumDelta | there's a difference between helping people/putting a project together |
| 00:10.34 | Grum | as said, it's mostly useful for outland |
| 00:10.38 | QuantumDelta | and being anal. :P |
| 00:11.11 | Grum | i think outland+currentzone+currentcartozone is enough |
| 00:11.46 | QuantumDelta | I do agree |
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| 00:13.18 | Grum | ah well .. time for bed |
| 00:13.31 | Nandini | hmm... curiosity question... can i share my route data with others? |
| 00:13.47 | Grum | no and will not ever happen by my choice ^^ |
| 00:14.28 | Nandini | i'm just wondering if people who have installed cart_herbs databases for example will calculate routes for individual herbs for all zones then post those routes for download |
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| 00:14.36 | Nosrac | Where can I download Cart Routes? I'm having difficulty finding at files.wowace.com ;-) |
| 00:15.20 | Sandiago | Hey guys, having a small issue here after a format and fresh install of WoW.. none of my Ace mods are working.. |
| 00:15.30 | Sandiago | I have Ace2 installed ect but they are just not coming on in-game |
| 00:15.45 | Nandini | are they enabled? are you getting any error messages? |
| 00:15.55 | Sandiago | no errors.. and they are enabled |
| 00:16.15 | Sandiago | and its ONLY the ace mods.. everything else ie: bongos2 is working |
| 00:18.02 | Xinhuan | you're not helping us Sandiago, you have to tell us the ERROR MESSAGES you are getting |
| 00:18.23 | Sandiago | id love to tell you the error message... if I was getting one |
| 00:18.25 | Sandiago | but im not |
| 00:18.38 | Xinhuan | then the only explanation is that you installed your ace addons incorrectly |
| 00:18.38 | Nandini | if you type /ace do you get any output? |
| 00:18.52 | Xinhuan | because no error = they didn't even get loaded |
| 00:19.03 | Xinhuan | = incorrect installation, wrong folder, etc |
| 00:19.04 | durcyn | or he has errors suppressed. |
| 00:19.13 | Sandiago | maybe thats it |
| 00:19.18 | Sandiago | sec |
| 00:19.36 | Aurica | So the same warlock has blown us up 5 times in a row on Solarian |
| 00:19.42 | Aurica | err not 5, 3 |
| 00:20.40 | Sandiago | okay yea |
| 00:20.43 | Sandiago | I had errors off |
| 00:20.47 | Xelopheris | o..kay? nerf warlocks? |
| 00:20.58 | Sandiago | so it seems the mods are looking for "Rock" but cannot find it? |
| 00:21.40 | Silowyi | teh eye-ron-knee |
| 00:21.40 | Dezzimal | Sandiago: blame ckknight |
| 00:21.53 | Sandiago | well where do I get Rock ;p |
| 00:21.55 | Dezzimal | rock is his fault |
| 00:22.05 | Xelopheris | Can you find where the Rock is loaded! |
| 00:22.16 | Xinhuan | well how did you install your Ace addons? |
| 00:22.22 | Xinhuan | did you use a installer? program? |
| 00:22.32 | Sandiago | WAU |
| 00:22.40 | Xinhuan | alright, go into your WAU settings |
| 00:22.42 | Xinhuan | preferences |
| 00:22.45 | Sandiago | oh so Rock is actually Ace3? |
| 00:22.49 | Nandini | no. |
| 00:22.51 | Nosrac | nope lol |
| 00:22.52 | Xinhuan | and turn on "AUTOMATIC dependency download" |
| 00:23.04 | Xinhuan | and turn OFF "default mode with externals" |
| 00:23.13 | Xinhuan | once you have these 2 settings done |
| 00:23.23 | Xinhuan | go ahead and hit "reinstall all installed addons" |
| 00:23.31 | Sandiago | okay |
| 00:23.51 | Nandini | wow two of my least favorite things in one sentence! |
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| 00:23.54 | Xinhuan | i'm assuming you like 250 folders in your addons folder |
| 00:23.57 | Nandini | "go ahead and..." and "hit..." |
| 00:24.02 | sylvanaar | even better, F4, SHIFT-F12 |
| 00:24.18 | Xinhuan | pfft sylvanaar, i don't remember those shortcuts |
| 00:24.34 | sylvanaar | me either, but takes less time to type |
| 00:25.31 | Astika | Anyone here good with UI Coordinates/Scale? |
| 00:25.45 | Nandini | those are right up there with "close out of" in my book. what happened to just "close" or "exit" |
| 00:26.21 | Sandiago | yay that worked! |
| 00:26.37 | Nandini | welcome to having yet another addon framework running! |
| 00:26.40 | Sandiago | you guys rock, i'll be sure to send you all some cheese blocks |
| 00:26.43 | Xinhuan | i hope you like running your addons disembedded Sandiago ;p |
| 00:27.00 | Xinhuan | or at least, hope you already ran them disembedded in the first place |
| 00:27.14 | Sandiago | what does that mean? |
| 00:27.45 | Xinhuan | it means the libraries that the addons use are in their own addon folders |
| 00:27.46 | Nandini | you have libraries disembedded now for purposes of updating, no need to know what it means, just know that it is good :) |
| 00:27.49 | Ellipsis | Nandini, you must nearly kill yourself when you have to call tech support for something... |
| 00:27.55 | kenlyric_ | you get 100 more folders, but 2000 fewer files if you run disembedded. |
| 00:28.00 | kenlyric_ | and fewer updates. |
| 00:28.19 | Nandini | Ellipsis: it drives me nuts. |
| 00:28.27 | Arrowmaster | and you get 1,000 more folders and 10,000 more files if you use svn |
| 00:28.28 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 00:28.36 | Sandiago | I get it actually |
| 00:28.51 | Ellipsis | wait, what kind of libraries gives me 10,000,000 more pies? |
| 00:28.53 | Ellipsis | 'cause I like pie |
| 00:28.57 | kenlyric_ | libpie |
| 00:29.01 | MoonWitch | APPLE PIE! |
| 00:29.02 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 00:29.08 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster is gay, because he SVN's the whole trunk |
| 00:29.23 | Ellipsis | HAY GUISE SOMTHINS RONG WITH DIS ADDON IT SEZ IT NEEDS OVEN-1.0 |
| 00:29.23 | Xinhuan | so he has an entire duplicated copy of all his addons inside the .svn folder/subfolders |
| 00:29.24 | Nandini | Ofent times if I'm on the phone with someone and they tell me to "close out of" something, I tell them I only have a button that says "close" and none that says "close out of" |
| 00:29.33 | Nandini | s/Ofent/Often |
| 00:29.37 | Nandini | s/Ofent/Often/ |
| 00:29.42 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 00:29.47 | Ellipsis | win, purl |
| 00:29.50 | Nandini | stupid arrow key. LOL |
| 00:29.50 | kenlyric_ | fail |
| 00:29.53 | Amadeo | I called Blizzard tech support once, was on the phone for like 2 hours holding |
| 00:29.58 | Nandini | ~nandini |
| 00:29.58 | purl | i guess nandini is really not a retard (he's just special) |
| 00:30.02 | Ellipsis | Blizz tech support made me cry |
| 00:30.06 | kenlyric_ | i wish purl didn't do that. no need to show what I said twice. |
| 00:30.17 | Amadeo | All because their website was broken and wouldn't let me reactivate my account |
| 00:30.22 | Amadeo | It was probably a sign...that I ignored |
| 00:30.24 | MoonWitch | boo @ blizz tech support |
| 00:30.36 | kenlyric_ | if humans can't translate regex, they don't belong on irc. |
| 00:30.40 | Nandini | why did you call tech support and not call customer support? |
| 00:30.45 | Astika | why is it when i anchored somethin's center point to UIParent's center ... it's not exactly centered between left/right side of screen |
| 00:30.56 | Paene | How do you save a frame's position? Just declare it in your saved variables? |
| 00:31.02 | Paene | the frame that is |
| 00:31.05 | Nandini | customer support would probably be more than happy to reach right through the phone and grab the money out of your wallet. |
| 00:31.08 | Xinhuan | Astika: that would depend on the frame texture |
| 00:31.10 | Paene | or do you have to record it's position in the SV? |
| 00:31.28 | Ellipsis | Paene, any movable frame will get its coords saved in layout-cache.txt |
| 00:31.35 | Ellipsis | no effort required on your part |
| 00:31.38 | Nandini | Astika: there may be parts of the frame that are not visible, its center may not be where you think |
| 00:31.49 | Paene | nice, so just call CreateFrame() and the game will do the rest? |
| 00:32.01 | Ellipsis | as long as you set it movable or resizable, yeah |
| 00:32.09 | Astika | oh, damn, you right. MinimapCluster was always off-centered |
| 00:32.10 | Paene | kk |
| 00:32.15 | Paene | thanks Elipsis |
| 00:32.20 | Astika | *you are |
| 00:32.25 | Nandini | MinimapCluster has TONS of stuff around its edges |
| 00:32.26 | Amadeo | yay, boredom broken |
| 00:32.38 | MoonWitch | I wonder though, if you use createframe() you can't use the onLoad event, in which do you put the damn slashcommands stuff then? |
| 00:32.56 | Ellipsis | um |
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| 00:33.03 | Ellipsis | put them in the same block of code you call CreateFrame() from? |
| 00:33.11 | Astika | Nandini, I just realized that when you said it. Ugh, you would have to hard-code in the offset to truly center it :( |
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| 00:33.20 | MoonWitch | oh duh .. lol |
| 00:33.22 | Nandini | Astika: unfortunately, yes |
| 00:33.44 | MoonWitch | I'll get this tackled.. |
| 00:33.45 | MoonWitch | one day |
| 00:33.49 | orionshock | Astika: isn't there a GetScreenWidth() ? |
| 00:34.13 | MoonWitch | how the hell do you write the sound a cat makes in english ???? |
| 00:34.19 | Ellipsis | "meow" |
| 00:34.22 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 00:34.27 | Astika | Nandini, That makes MinimapCluster a poor reference point with whcih to re-cente ron a resolution change, then re-position other frames near it by anchoring them to MinimapCluster |
| 00:34.28 | MoonWitch | I spelled it the dutch way :P |
| 00:34.30 | MoonWitch | brb |
| 00:34.39 | Astika | Kittens says "mew" in English |
| 00:34.42 | Paene | Using Ace2's framework...the slash command stuff is held outside of any functions. |
| 00:34.50 | Paene | At least following the Welcome Home tutorial they are |
| 00:34.58 | Nandini | Astika, it works well only when it's in the upper-right corner, since the cluster extends down and to the left |
| 00:36.24 | Nandini | I have a picture somewhere showing the extent of different parts of minimapcluster, let me see if i can find it |
| 00:36.32 | Astika | Nandini, Exactly, it's centered in my UI compilation, and if I center it from a GetScreenWidth()/2, then it's offset :( ... guess I will have to find another frame near it to reference as a starting point |
| 00:38.32 | kenlyric_ | it's ok, king of the jungle says "mjummie" when it eats. I'm not sure what language that is. |
| 00:39.09 | Nandini | i've never yet seen a cat that speaks english either, to be honest |
| 00:39.18 | kenlyric_ | i suspect dutch, since the author seems to be. |
| 00:39.56 | Nandini | i suspect i would dislike cats much more if they actually did speak english. i have a feeling they say things about us that are not very complimentary. |
| 00:40.37 | Nandini | and "meow" is just a polite way of putting it. |
| 00:41.28 | Astika | subtract 8.75256347657 from MinimapCluster to get its visible "center", lol |
| 00:41.52 | Nandini | Astika: it may be different for resolutions tagged as "wide" in the UI |
| 00:42.13 | Astika | I'm on a 1440x900 now, checking others |
| 00:42.35 | Nandini | it may even be different when running in full screen versus windowed mode |
| 00:42.48 | Astika | checking that too :) |
| 00:43.34 | Astika | worked on 5:4 (1280x1024) |
| 00:43.49 | MoonWitch | ok back .. the dutch kitten who speaks english too now |
| 00:43.49 | Nandini | is it the same if you change the UI scale? |
| 00:44.03 | MoonWitch | soooo Ellipsis how have you been? |
| 00:44.35 | Astika | Nandini, I'm ignoring UI scale for the moment, since my compilation was/is done at .7 |
| 00:44.37 | Nandini | i run at 1280x1024 at a uiScale of 0.75 to make an adjusted screen unit exactly equal to a pixel for me |
| 00:45.10 | MoonWitch | anyhow I am out for the night |
| 00:45.28 | Astika | works for full-screen 1920x1200 |
| 00:45.53 | Nandini | excellent! |
| 00:46.19 | Astika | frame reverts back to last user placed loc though, lol |
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| 00:47.51 | Astika | well, that sucks |
| 00:48.41 | Astika | maybe i should just re-position frames, then save their offsets to their respective db entries :/ |
| 00:50.22 | orionshock | lazerpewpew... |
| 00:50.35 | orionshock | of blackrock... |
| 00:52.49 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 00:54.43 | Wobwork | kittenzmewmew |
| 00:55.19 | Paene | Elipsis: for the frames, does it recall the positions by the frame name? or the variable name? |
| 00:55.24 | CIA-12 | 03nebelmond * r51316 10Rawrkitty/ (Rawrkitty.lua Sounds/ icon.tga rawr1.mp3): |
| 00:55.24 | CIA-12 | Rawrkitty: |
| 00:55.24 | CIA-12 | - |
| 00:55.42 | orionshock | awsome commit notes neb |
| 00:55.54 | CIA-12 | 03nebelmond * r51317 10Rawrkitty/rawr2.mp3: |
| 00:55.54 | CIA-12 | Rawrkitty: |
| 00:55.54 | CIA-12 | - |
| 00:55.57 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 00:55.58 | kenlyric_ | hero |
| 00:56.14 | kenlyric_ | rawr! |
| 00:56.16 | kenlyric_ | meow |
| 00:56.26 | Nandini | why add commit notes when the file names are so informative? |
| 00:56.37 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 00:56.47 | kenlyric_ | commit notes are work. |
| 00:56.48 | hyperChipmunk | i hope that's a joke |
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| 00:56.54 | Nandini | yes i was being sarcastic :P |
| 00:57.03 | kenlyric_ | hyperChipmunk: you fail the internet. |
| 00:57.10 | kenlyric_ | if you even have to ask, you fail the internet |
| 00:57.32 | kenlyric_ | commit notes are like documentation. For the weak. |
| 00:57.38 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 00:57.48 | Nandini | yes! let the user discover what new nice things have changed! |
| 00:57.49 | hyperChipmunk | it's happened before |
| 00:57.55 | Nandini | why take away their joy of discovery? |
| 00:57.59 | elusif | wow under linux here i come woot! |
| 00:58.09 | hyperChipmunk | not everyone uses the same nicks in irc as their svn account |
| 00:58.16 | kenlyric_ | users can see what changed. |
| 00:58.20 | kenlyric_ | filenames were added |
| 00:58.23 | kenlyric_ | *files |
| 00:58.36 | Paene | maybe someone else knows...Elipsis mentioned earlier that frame's position is saved in layouts-cache. Is that information saved by frame name? or do I have to make a saved variable for the frame? |
| 00:58.47 | CIA-12 | 03nebelmond * r51318 10Rawrkitty/rawr1.mp3: |
| 00:58.47 | CIA-12 | Rawrkitty: |
| 00:58.47 | CIA-12 | - |
| 00:58.58 | Xelopheris | ... wtf is rawrkitty? |
| 00:59.13 | Zicon | I have no idea, but I want it. |
| 00:59.14 | Nandini | my guess would be it is an addon that adds sounds for druid attacks or abilities |
| 00:59.26 | ulic | alternate sounds for pounce and something other druid ability |
| 00:59.29 | Nandini | that's just looking at the file names though, it could be something completely different |
| 00:59.47 | CIA-12 | 03nebelmond * r51319 10Rawrkitty/ (Rawrkitty.lua rawr1.wav): |
| 00:59.47 | CIA-12 | Rawrkitty: |
| 00:59.48 | CIA-12 | - |
| 00:59.48 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51320 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/Vorpil.lua: |
| 00:59.48 | CIA-12 | LittleWigs: |
| 00:59.48 | CIA-12 | - update zhCN |
| 00:59.54 | ulic | he did include a description in the initial commit :) |
| 01:00.01 | Nandini | it would have been wonderfully ironic if it were a mage addon :) |
| 01:00.01 | ulic | or she |
| 01:00.18 | hyperChipmunk | ha |
| 01:00.23 | hyperChipmunk | girls can't program! |
| 01:00.23 | ulic | everytime a mage does arcane explosion a kitten dies. |
| 01:00.29 | Xinhuan | go fisheye is up and see what that addon does |
| 01:00.30 | kenlyric_ | well. |
| 01:00.35 | kenlyric_ | maybe that's te issue. |
| 01:00.48 | Nandini | wow really ulic? does this mean i can start masturbating again? |
| 01:01.01 | Wobwork | Nandini: CeilingCat is watching you do that |
| 01:01.01 | Nandini | i was told every time i did it a kitten died :( |
| 01:01.16 | kenlyric_ | there are millions of unwanted kitten born every year. |
| 01:01.20 | kenlyric_ | do your duty |
| 01:01.40 | Nandini | hmm it sounds so patriotic and humane when you put it that way ken :) |
| 01:01.54 | ulic | Nandini: no, you'll just kill more kittens |
| 01:01.56 | Nandini | is there any way i can make a SPECIFIC kitten die? |
| 01:02.02 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 01:02.05 | Kerafyrm | M80 |
| 01:02.06 | Zicon | hyperchipmunk: Damn straight. We're only here to squeal over the cute programmer boys. |
| 01:02.06 | Kerafyrm | ;) |
| 01:02.13 | kenlyric_ | no, god decides |
| 01:02.32 | Nandini | i guess i will just have to masturbate a lot then and hope eventually the neighbor's kitten gets chosen. |
| 01:02.49 | kenlyric_ | you can use a blender for specific cats |
| 01:03.09 | Nandini | true, i suggested that to "Will It Blend?" but they never responded |
| 01:03.18 | Xinhuan | i thought the svn is meant to reject commits without a message? |
| 01:03.29 | Wobwork | It has a message |
| 01:03.32 | Wobwork | " - " |
| 01:03.32 | kenlyric_ | - |
| 01:03.34 | Nandini | if it has the addon name at the top and a hyphen, it has a message |
| 01:03.35 | Xinhuan | i.e reject the commit if the commit message is just the tsvn:logtemplate |
| 01:03.53 | Xinhuan | except that was added only as the logtemplate |
| 01:03.54 | Wobwork | we should svn delete the addon |
| 01:03.57 | Xinhuan | it should reject that |
| 01:04.03 | Kerafyrm | I <3 WillItBlend:iPhone |
| 01:04.08 | Sandiago | is it possible to change the font face of nquestlog? |
| 01:04.09 | Wobwork | "Do it right or don't do it at all" |
| 01:04.56 | kenlyric_ | lighters are better. |
| 01:05.08 | Nandini | blending lighters? |
| 01:05.37 | Nandini | that shall have to be my next suggestion to them! |
| 01:05.39 | kenlyric_ | yes |
| 01:05.43 | kenlyric_ | they already have |
| 01:05.58 | Nandini | no way, i missed one??? |
| 01:05.59 | kenlyric_ | you haven't explored will it bend completely. |
| 01:06.45 | Gnarfoz | ~seen cryect |
| 01:06.48 | purl | cryect <n=fefsd@pool-72-95-251-159.pitbpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 37d 34m 50s ago, saying: 'charon: it can't tell the difference between mobs of the same name (you don't get any unit id for them or anything) so he couldn't do that'. |
| 01:07.11 | Nandini | omg i never saw the chuck norris one either! |
| 01:07.22 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 01:07.25 | Gnarfoz | he's gone? |
| 01:07.28 | Astika | Nandini, I checked a couple other UI scales, the same offset for MinimapCluster works fine for all |
| 01:08.52 | Nandini | i really want to get that guy's job |
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| 01:09.09 | Wobwork | Actually, we're well within our rights to delete rawrkitty |
| 01:09.24 | Wobwork | since the author did not follow the svn rules laid out =P |
| 01:09.29 | Zicon | hyperchipmunk: Ooh, that's so hot. |
| 01:09.53 | orionshock | wob but is it worth it? |
| 01:10.14 | Wobwork | It's either that or trying to track their email down and telling them off =P |
| 01:10.24 | hyperChipmunk | try to contain yourself |
| 01:10.26 | Wobwork | principle of the matter and all that |
| 01:10.27 | orionshock | i got a better one |
| 01:10.52 | orionshock | revert the commits and then wait for the author to franticly fret about when they can't make another commit :D |
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| 01:11.08 | Wobwork | orionshock: go for it =) |
| 01:11.09 | orionshock | due to error |
| 01:11.30 | orionshock | ... ya i don't care that much |
| 01:12.17 | Kerafyrm | you guys should offer a 'fix my mod' service.. for mod dev's who have quit supporting their mods come patch day.... :P |
| 01:12.32 | Wobwork | "Pimp My Mod" |
| 01:12.38 | Kerafyrm | that too |
| 01:12.39 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 01:13.12 | kenlyric_ | those mods deserve to die? |
| 01:13.28 | Kerafyrm | some do yes |
| 01:13.30 | Kerafyrm | not all |
| 01:13.40 | kenlyric_ | yes, all. |
| 01:13.44 | orionshock | imho - paid service |
| 01:13.58 | Nandini | that iPhone stayed on for a remarkably long time when it was blended |
| 01:13.59 | Kerafyrm | thats the idea, of course |
| 01:14.05 | kenlyric_ | a mod dying is a reason to find another mod. |
| 01:14.07 | Kerafyrm | Nandini: Yes it did |
| 01:14.11 | Sandiago | is there a guide somewhere that I can read to explain how to change default font in WoW? |
| 01:14.25 | kenlyric_ | 2.0.1 mods dying is how I found ace. |
| 01:14.37 | Kerafyrm | I miss discord |
| 01:14.42 | kenlyric_ | oh god |
| 01:14.45 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 01:14.45 | orionshock | SOB |
| 01:14.48 | kenlyric_ | you get out of my house |
| 01:14.51 | orionshock | i just failed the escort quest.... |
| 01:15.02 | Paene | ping Elipsis |
| 01:15.13 | Wobwork | orionshock: skettis? |
| 01:15.23 | orionshock | ya |
| 01:15.28 | Wobwork | crazy |
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| 01:16.03 | orionshock | caster came from behind and 4 shotted him.. |
| 01:16.31 | Wobwork | I don't know why more people don't group up for that quest |
| 01:16.32 | Nandini | Sandiago: Create the following folder: <WoW directory>\Fonts\ |
| 01:16.37 | Nandini | Create four copies of the font file of your choice, place them in the above folder, and rename them to the following names: |
| 01:16.44 | Nandini | FRIZQT__.ttf (the main UI font) , ARIALN.ttf (the normal number font) , skurri.ttf (the 'huge' number font), MORPHEUS.ttf (Mail, Quest Log font) |
| 01:16.51 | kenlyric_ | i group up when people are right there. |
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| 01:17.06 | kenlyric_ | but otherwise, other faction will ninja it. |
| 01:17.09 | Sandiago | so if I want to use enigma.. I just rename it 4 times to those names? |
| 01:17.11 | Wobwork | kenlyric: as soon as I enter the zone, I'm like "Anyone for escort?" |
| 01:17.16 | yssaril | anyone that works on oRA2 on? |
| 01:17.23 | Wobwork | then we canvas each site |
| 01:17.36 | Wobwork | we may miss one, but usually get it |
| 01:17.41 | kenlyric_ | same for eggs. |
| 01:17.42 | hyperChipmunk | then he pops and while you wait to reconvene someone ninjas |
| 01:18.02 | hyperChipmunk | they need to make the group-accept range longer |
| 01:18.29 | kenlyric_ | infinite. |
| 01:18.47 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, but only award completion if you're close |
| 01:18.48 | kenlyric_ | as long as you get there before it's over. |
| 01:18.56 | Wobwork | eggs are easy, the shared completion is fairly wide |
| 01:19.16 | Wobwork | then again, you do the quests when there's not as much traffic =P |
| 01:19.27 | hyperChipmunk | shared eggs isn't a problem for anyone i don't think |
| 01:19.36 | hyperChipmunk | i do nether rays w/ my gf sometimes |
| 01:19.44 | Wobwork | oh god |
| 01:19.47 | Wobwork | stupid delicate rays |
| 01:19.50 | Wobwork | hates them |
| 01:19.53 | hyperChipmunk | she's a paladin, so she can do it without killing them >8) |
| 01:19.54 | kenlyric_ | is nether ray repeatable? |
| 01:19.58 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 01:20.02 | hyperChipmunk | daily |
| 01:20.10 | kenlyric_ | there must be a prereq. |
| 01:20.14 | Wobwork | And the stupid rays give me a migraine when trying to focus past them |
| 01:20.19 | kenlyric_ | is it ogri'la linked? |
| 01:20.26 | Wobwork | kenlyric: probably =) |
| 01:20.33 | kenlyric_ | fucking ogri'la |
| 01:20.42 | Wobwork | you really need to do those 5mans |
| 01:20.46 | Wobwork | that's 100g right there |
| 01:20.57 | kenlyric_ | i do try. |
| 01:20.57 | Wobwork | or 120 or something |
| 01:21.00 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, i finally got people to do them with a few weeks ago |
| 01:21.03 | Paene | hyperChipmunk: do you know anything about how frame positioning is saved? |
| 01:21.14 | hyperChipmunk | layout-cache.txt |
| 01:21.19 | Paene | right |
| 01:21.24 | kenlyric_ | gonna pester everyone at gruul's |
| 01:21.25 | Paene | for using CreateFrame |
| 01:21.35 | Paene | do I need to have that as a savedvariable? |
| 01:21.37 | Wobwork | meh, I'm almost exalted with shatari |
| 01:21.45 | Paene | er |
| 01:21.46 | orionshock | AutoBar is that Tuller's mod? |
| 01:21.47 | hyperChipmunk | probably |
| 01:21.48 | Wobwork | but I don't have the money to buy the skill |
| 01:21.49 | Paene | return to a saved var |
| 01:21.59 | Tuller | no |
| 01:22.00 | Paene | hm... |
| 01:22.04 | hyperChipmunk | because the frame doesn't exist |
| 01:22.13 | orionshock | toadkiller's mod ? |
| 01:22.16 | hyperChipmunk | you can't really save a dynamic frame's position |
| 01:22.23 | hyperChipmunk | unless you know more about it |
| 01:22.24 | Paene | how does it save the positioning then? by frame name? |
| 01:22.26 | Wobwork | without a sv file |
| 01:22.29 | Astika | if you manually SetPoint a frame, is there anyway to save it's x,y, to prevent it from reverting to last placed (dragged) position? |
| 01:22.29 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
| 01:22.34 | Wobwork | and a function to move it to position |
| 01:22.53 | hyperChipmunk | if it doesn't have a real name, you'll have to do it yourself |
| 01:23.06 | Tuller | ~autobar |
| 01:23.11 | Paene | I guess I'll play around with it a bit |
| 01:23.24 | Tuller | aww, I was hoping for a saien reference |
| 01:23.45 | Wobwork | ~saien |
| 01:23.46 | purl | Why do I care? Why are you posting here? |
| 01:24.39 | Nandini | i wonder if a roll of quarters will blend |
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| 01:29.39 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51321 10Omen/localization_zhTW.lua: Omen: Update zhTW localization strings |
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| 01:38.15 | orionshock | ....ok that's another first |
| 01:38.41 | orionshock | doing anthor ray's daily |
| 01:38.53 | orionshock | rouge drops in and kills it off for me |
| 01:39.01 | orionshock | ... what an ass |
| 01:42.43 | Xinhuan | i do that sometimes to annoy people ;p |
| 01:42.56 | Xinhuan | then again i play on a pvp server, so anything goes! |
| 01:43.44 | Xinhuan | so annoying method 1: kill their ray, then kill them |
| 01:43.57 | Xinhuan | and annoying method 2: kill them, then steal their ray for your own |
| 01:43.58 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 01:44.39 | orionshock | i used to be on a pvp server |
| 01:44.41 | orionshock | i hated it |
| 01:44.58 | Xinhuan | world pvp is so enjoyable to me :) |
| 01:45.16 | orionshock | they'd just as soon kill you and wait to run back than steal your ray |
| 01:45.39 | Xinhuan | that's the thing, don't let them kill you :) |
| 01:46.54 | Xelopheris | I love cycloning warlocks that are stupid enough to DoT their rays |
| 01:47.40 | Xinhuan | haha that's gotta be more annoying that adding the kiling blow so they can't capture it |
| 01:48.24 | Xinhuan | if j ~= i and j ~= i-1 and j ~= i+1 and j ~= numNodes then |
| 01:48.32 | Xinhuan | any real way i can shorten this? lol |
| 01:48.42 | breser | Cycloning peoples mobs that are annoying you can be a satisfying experience. |
| 01:51.26 | orionshock | Xinhuan: unless there is a +/- in lua... not really |
| 01:52.47 | Xinhuan | i wonder if a table lookup is faster |
| 01:52.59 | Xinhuan | than four ~= operations |
| 01:53.23 | orionshock | for k,v in pairs(t) do |
| 01:53.31 | Xinhuan | than four ~= and 3 AND operations even |
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| 01:53.58 | Xinhuan | if not t[j] then |
| 01:54.35 | Xinhuan | where t[i-1], t[1], t[i+1] and t[numNodes] are true |
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| 01:57.40 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51322 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0- update zhTW localization |
| 01:58.00 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 01:58.20 | hyperChipmunk | rock pwnd |
| 01:58.20 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51323 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0- update zhTW localization |
| 01:58.30 | Ellipsis | oh boy |
| 01:58.43 | Ellipsis | who's gonna fix this one? |
| 01:58.46 | hyperChipmunk | oh ouch |
| 01:58.52 | hyperChipmunk | comm this time |
| 01:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | now you can screw everyone |
| 01:59.12 | orionshock | lol |
| 01:59.28 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51324 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0:Added zhTW localization |
| 01:59.31 | orionshock | let me SVN it down |
| 01:59.36 | hyperChipmunk | oh my |
| 01:59.41 | hyperChipmunk | ADDED localization |
| 01:59.42 | Xelopheris | Oh man |
| 01:59.50 | Ellipsis | uh oh |
| 01:59.53 | Corgan | . |
| 01:59.55 | Xelopheris | Note to self: do not run WAU |
| 01:59.58 | Ellipsis | this cannot be good |
| 02:00.10 | Corgan | hold me |
| 02:00.12 | Corgan | I'm scared |
| 02:00.19 | orionshock | ok ive got it, let me reload ui |
| 02:00.20 | Corey | whats so bad? |
| 02:00.30 | Xelopheris | Orion: good luck |
| 02:00.33 | Corgan | I fear for my life |
| 02:00.44 | orionshock | never fails |
| 02:00.46 | orionshock | LibRockComm-1.0\LibRockComm-1.0.lua:50: unexpected symbol near '[' |
| 02:00.51 | Corgan | rofl |
| 02:00.56 | Xinhuan | hahahaha |
| 02:00.56 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 02:00.57 | Ellipsis | good lord |
| 02:01.05 | Ellipsis | will it never end? |
| 02:01.06 | Xelopheris | I would've figured line 10 tops |
| 02:01.13 | Xinhuan | so why do we give accounts to chinas? |
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| 02:01.18 | orionshock | LOL |
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| 02:01.22 | orionshock | 41 errors |
| 02:01.24 | Ellipsis | no see Xelopheris, lines 10-49 are chinese translations |
| 02:01.27 | hyperChipmunk | cuz none of us knows chinese =P |
| 02:01.31 | Xinhuan | i know chinese |
| 02:01.37 | Xinhuan | in fact i'm chinese |
| 02:01.43 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, moar transl8in plz |
| 02:01.51 | Xelopheris | Really? I would've thought you were black with a name like Xinhuan :P |
| 02:01.52 | hyperChipmunk | then why aren't you translating...or are you? |
| 02:01.54 | Xinhuan | i can speak it, but not write it |
| 02:01.55 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:01.58 | Xinhuan | BIG difference there |
| 02:02.00 | Ellipsis | fail't |
| 02:02.01 | Xelopheris | l2tts |
| 02:02.01 | hyperChipmunk | then you're useless |
| 02:02.05 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 02:02.08 | Xinhuan | diaf |
| 02:02.10 | Xelopheris | erm, stt I guess |
| 02:02.25 | hyperChipmunk | actually, he can...it's actually him doing these commits |
| 02:02.32 | hyperChipmunk | he just doesn't want anyone to know |
| 02:02.38 | Ellipsis | ooh, yay, now we have someone present to blame! |
| 02:02.39 | Kaelten | heh |
| 02:02.46 | Xinhuan | meh, you should make everyone that applies for a SVN account go through a "LUA test" |
| 02:03.03 | Ellipsis | dammit |
| 02:03.07 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51325 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 02:03.07 | CIA-12 | Omen: |
| 02:03.07 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 02:03.15 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 02:03.16 | Ellipsis | the one time I'm not afk in 2 days and my dad decides to IM me |
| 02:03.24 | orionshock | sayclub is actualy good |
| 02:03.48 | Kaelten | some are better than others |
| 02:04.03 | hyperChipmunk | from what i've seen, that isn't saying much |
| 02:04.12 | hyperChipmunk | my dog could do a better job |
| 02:04.27 | Ellipsis | I want to train my dog to parse Lua... |
| 02:04.53 | orionshock | well all the rock libs are off the svn.wowace site.. and if no one else will i'll spend the time to move over and adjust those translations. |
| 02:05.03 | Ellipsis | hf |
| 02:05.28 | Xelopheris | Should train a cron script to parse LUA and file copy, IMO >.> |
| 02:05.35 | Xinhuan | i expect to see a "woof woof" translation soon |
| 02:05.51 | Ellipsis | that's what we need, addons for pets |
| 02:06.00 | Ellipsis | train your dog to farm for you while you sleep! |
| 02:06.20 | orionshock | ahhh... UF gone after update :( |
| 02:06.24 | Xelopheris | but my dog isn't chinese |
| 02:06.31 | Xelopheris | Orion: pitbull? |
| 02:08.12 | orionshock | ya |
| 02:08.25 | hyperChipmunk | hm, my dog's a bichon frise...he can do the french dog translations, but we'll need a pekingese for fixish the zhXY stuff |
| 02:08.27 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51326 10Babble-2.2/Babble-SpellTree-2.2/Babble-SpellTree-2.2.lua: |
| 02:08.27 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:08.27 | CIA-12 | - Babble-SpellTree: Added "Hybrid" |
| 02:08.27 | Xelopheris | how did I guess |
| 02:08.47 | Xelopheris | My dog's a shih tzu. IT can do the chinese |
| 02:09.02 | hyperChipmunk | excellent |
| 02:09.10 | Ellipsis | ~facepalm |
| 02:09.10 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 02:09.30 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r51327 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: |
| 02:09.30 | CIA-12 | LibRockComm-1.0: |
| 02:09.30 | CIA-12 | -Adjust zhTW Chinses Traditional localiation.. to not crash rest of file. |
| 02:09.34 | Xinhuan | you know what people should do? addon authors should write the localization tables for every lannguage, but leave the english text in in every language |
| 02:09.50 | Xinhuan | so its obvious to translators that they should only try to modify the stuff inside the " " |
| 02:09.51 | Ellipsis | you think that would help? |
| 02:09.57 | Xinhuan | instead of trying to add code blocks ;p |
| 02:10.00 | Ellipsis | they'd probably screw it up anyway |
| 02:10.08 | orionshock | i know in my addon i put in a template for locale |
| 02:10.10 | Ellipsis | like, delete an ending " somewhere |
| 02:11.06 | Nandini | or leave out commas |
| 02:11.14 | Nandini | or delete closing braces |
| 02:11.19 | Nandini | or duplicate end statements |
| 02:11.29 | orionshock | now for the other one... |
| 02:11.33 | Nandini | all errors seen in the past 3 days caused by people localizing |
| 02:11.37 | orionshock | ... any bets on # or errors? |
| 02:12.16 | hyperChipmunk | Xinhuan: that's what we do |
| 02:12.18 | orionshock | zomg he did that one right... |
| 02:12.27 | orionshock | gratz |
| 02:12.40 | hyperChipmunk | and then put comments on the english lines saying they need translation |
| 02:12.42 | Nandini | How do you say "Go to hell!" in Chinese? I want to replace all the localized strings with that. |
| 02:13.10 | hyperChipmunk | when you put in a translation, you replace the text, uncomment the line, and remove the marker |
| 02:13.23 | Ellipsis | too complicated for them imo |
| 02:13.26 | hyperChipmunk | that way it's easy to see what translations are still needed |
| 02:13.32 | Xinhuan | ??? |
| 02:14.00 | Nandini | Why not localize it yourself, put in localized strings for "problematic" languages and just leave the translations in english? |
| 02:14.01 | orionshock | IMHO, send the translations to the authors and let them add it correctly |
| 02:14.20 | hyperChipmunk | that's what i prefer, but some don't |
| 02:14.26 | hyperChipmunk | i ask for emails |
| 02:14.27 | orionshock | copy out the English block, modify , email |
| 02:14.33 | Nandini | Of course, then they might translate the text on the left side of the = |
| 02:14.35 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51328 10BigWigs/ (Hyjal/Anetheron.lua Karazhan/Moroes.lua): |
| 02:14.35 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 02:14.35 | CIA-12 | - zhCN updated |
| 02:14.41 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:14.44 | orionshock | lol Nandini |
| 02:15.25 | Xinhuan | i don't use AceLocale, so its obvious which side to translate ;p |
| 02:15.44 | orionshock | well just remember that we do have alot of GOOD extra language translator... too bad they ruine it for the rest |
| 02:16.06 | Nandini | this is true. there are a lot of helpful people that have made these addons easier to use for thousands of players. |
| 02:16.35 | Nandini | OMG yes!!! |
| 02:17.06 | Nandini | I should put in my own english translation tables |
| 02:17.07 | orionshock | ? |
| 02:17.13 | Nandini | so that the localized strings are gibberish! |
| 02:17.26 | orionshock | lol |
| 02:17.30 | Nandini | L"Omelette" = "Adjust the frame's transparency." |
| 02:17.44 | Nandini | L"Bacon" = "Set the update interval." |
| 02:17.53 | Xinhuan | you should try embedding translations inside a translation |
| 02:18.09 | Nandini | I wonder how many translators would translate Omelette and Bacon instead. |
| 02:18.24 | Nandini | And at what point they might realize something is wrong. |
| 02:18.25 | Ellipsis | given their grasp of english, I doubt they would |
| 02:18.33 | aestil | i have to blow up the pylons this week on Vashj |
| 02:18.34 | Ellipsis | I have a hunch that most of them actually look at how the strings are used |
| 02:18.34 | aestil | suck. |
| 02:18.41 | Ellipsis | rather than actually translating the text |
| 02:18.59 | Ellipsis | aestil: y u no bring coffeez. |
| 02:19.00 | Xinhuan | L"Omelette" = "Adjust the frame's "..L["transparency"].."." |
| 02:19.02 | Xinhuan | try that imo |
| 02:19.08 | Ellipsis | no no no |
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| 02:19.19 | Ellipsis | then you'd use "sausage" for transparency |
| 02:19.20 | Xinhuan | embedded translations! |
| 02:19.27 | Xinhuan | L"Omelette" = "Adjust the frame's "..L["sausage"].."." |
| 02:19.28 | aestil | Ellipsis: i was at work on saturday. you failed at coming to see me. |
| 02:19.30 | orionshock | mean bastard |
| 02:19.32 | kaiden | too many people breaking addons when translating |
| 02:19.33 | Ellipsis | now you've got it |
| 02:19.35 | Nandini | That's it. I'm writing my next addon in Taurahe. |
| 02:19.39 | Pufu | Howdo |
| 02:19.42 | Ellipsis | aestil: sowwy, I've been sick |
| 02:19.43 | Pufu | *y |
| 02:19.47 | Ellipsis | yuo needs to bring coffeez HEAR |
| 02:20.22 | Nandini | I still think all of Parrot's options should have been written in pirate-speak. |
| 02:21.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | YARR, SCROLL LEFT |
| 02:21.26 | orionshock | Xinhuan: L["Omlett"] = "Adjust the Frame's "..L[ |
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| 02:21.35 | orionshock | Xinhuan: L["Omlett"] = "Adjust the Frame's "..L["sausage"] |
| 02:21.38 | orionshock | fking keyboard ... |
| 02:21.45 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51329 10EnhancedLFG/ (EnhancedLFG.toc core.lua libs/ libs/includes.xml): EnhancedLFG: Use localized spec names from babble-spelltree |
| 02:21.52 | Xinhuan | yep then you define sausage in another file ;p |
| 02:22.27 | orionshock | yep thats about as assinine as the way hourglass does things |
| 02:22.28 | Seerah | lol - this reminds me of MadLibs... |
| 02:22.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | SCT found. TRYIN FER A MUTINY, EH? I'LL SHOW YE WHAT WE DO WITH TRAITORS, YAAARG |
| 02:22.38 | Nandini | I once went an entire hour speaking in Taurahe in guild chat and no one bothered to tell me. |
| 02:23.11 | Nandini | It must have been more pleasant than reading what I actually said. |
| 02:23.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | taurahe should really show up as |
| 02:23.54 | orionshock | you say Moo and im gona hurt you |
| 02:23.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | "Moo Moo. Moo moo moo moo moo. Moo? Moo! Moo moo moo moo moo, moo moo moo." |
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| 02:24.05 | orionshock | ~lart Mr_Rabies2 |
| 02:24.05 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to Mr_Rabies2, and goes postal |
| 02:24.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | like the cow level in diablo 2. |
| 02:24.06 | Nosrac | wouldn't that be great? |
| 02:24.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, the tip that says "there is no cow level" |
| 02:24.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | but there is |
| 02:24.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's called Mulgore. |
| 02:25.13 | Nandini | Eventually I am going to have to break down and reactivate my account. |
| 02:25.29 | Nandini | I just use my friend's account for testing stuff now, and his guildies always think I am him when I log on. |
| 02:25.39 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:25.47 | orionshock | char and realm :D |
| 02:25.49 | Nandini | It has led to some embarassment. |
| 02:26.05 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51330 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0: fixed typo |
| 02:26.09 | orionshock | i'll be happy to help you reactivate the account :D |
| 02:26.11 | orionshock | j/k |
| 02:26.18 | Nosrac | lol |
| 02:26.32 | Ellipsis | uh oh |
| 02:26.36 | Ellipsis | andyca again :/ |
| 02:26.48 | Ellipsis | better double-check that even if it is only a "typo fix" |
| 02:26.49 | orionshock | >.> |
| 02:26.53 | Nandini | umm... typo in LibRockComm? |
| 02:27.04 | Nandini | that just seems unlikely at this stage |
| 02:27.30 | Ellipsis | I think it's meant to be fixing a typo in the translation he added |
| 02:27.35 | Nandini | oh. |
| 02:27.39 | Ellipsis | y'know, the one that just broke RockComm until orionshock fixed it... |
| 02:28.37 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r51331 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 02:28.37 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 02:28.37 | CIA-12 | - Moved item index sorting to reduce unnecessary processing |
| 02:29.11 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51332 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/TSP.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Add pruning to 2-opt algorithm, resulting in roughly 10-30% less computation time. |
| 02:29.21 | Nandini | i wonder what the blendtec guy's job is when he is not blending things on camera |
| 02:30.05 | orionshock | Ellipsis: nope it was a language typo. |
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| 02:30.12 | orionshock | formating is still intact |
| 02:31.13 | orionshock | oh btw Ellipsis i finished my questing mod, works perfectly now. and is frameworkless noless |
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| 02:31.56 | Xinhuan | its not working perfectly until you add in code to periodically check for dailies resetting |
| 02:32.10 | orionshock | thats the 2nd one |
| 02:32.16 | orionshock | and it's for shits and giggle mostly |
| 02:32.34 | orionshock | and tbh im ok with it just detailing the last time i did that quest |
| 02:33.09 | orionshock | just got to figure out how to sort them by name or date... |
| 02:37.10 | Xinhuan | should sort them by zone |
| 02:38.11 | orionshock | ... then i'd have to pass more shit though tables... |
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| 02:39.12 | orionshock | then again i could just do DailyFu:AddQuestToCompleted(quest..GetCurentMiniMapZone() ) |
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| 02:44.55 | Sedai| | http://browsehappy.com/ |
| 02:45.14 | orionshock | how does one get the object underneath the mouse? |
| 02:45.21 | orionshock | not the focus |
| 02:46.34 | Hjalte | What's my best bet for an addon to show me dot timers on several mobs at the same time? |
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| 02:47.36 | Xelopheris | Chronometer |
| 02:48.23 | Hjalte | I'd like it to have a few more options than Chronometer. Been using that for a while.. But I guess there isnt really any other choice? |
| 02:48.59 | orionshock | well there is DoTimer |
| 02:49.11 | orionshock | but the comms part of it is just shit |
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| 02:49.46 | Hjalte | I've heard too much bad about DoTimer in here, I don't really want to try it :) |
| 02:50.22 | Diao | isn't uh |
| 02:50.28 | Diao | there a new addon on wowace that does it |
| 02:50.40 | Diao | spellreminder |
| 02:50.41 | Diao | or something |
| 02:50.49 | Diao | i'm not sure if it works the same as dotimer though |
| 02:51.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Woot, Illidari Council down. HAI2U Illidan! |
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| 02:53.53 | Hjalte | Diao, I'll give it a try. |
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| 02:57.11 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51333 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Fix bug where a route using the default color is always showing up as white in a route's color picker no matter what the default color is. |
| 02:59.05 | Diao | grats zealot |
| 02:59.41 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51334 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Remove 2 unnecessary calls to GenerateZoneMenu() |
| 03:01.54 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51335 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: |
| 03:01.54 | CIA-12 | LibRock-1.0 |
| 03:01.54 | CIA-12 | - zhCN Rogue Translate |
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| 03:03.13 | Nandini | you would think with the huge chinese player base they would have developed their own set of superior addons and sold them to us |
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| 03:07.10 | Nandini | this has to be the most bizarre holiday i have ever heard of: Night of the Radishes |
| 03:09.00 | CIA-12 | 03whitetooth * r51336 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 03:09.00 | CIA-12 | StatLogicLib: |
| 03:09.00 | CIA-12 | - Updated German localization: "Savagery" enchant has been changed from "Wildheit" to "Unbändigkeit". |
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| 03:16.01 | Aens|Superiority | wonder if there is a way to blacklist "deaden" from pitbull castbars |
| 03:16.20 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r605 10/trunk/TourGuide/OHFrame.lua: |
| 03:16.20 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide |
| 03:16.20 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Added scrollbar to OH obj frame |
| 03:16.20 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Added hover tooltips to details in OH obj frame if the detail is truncated |
| 03:16.47 | Nandini | i don't think so aens |
| 03:17.03 | Nandini | is it causing you problems? |
| 03:17.12 | Aens|Superiority | sometimes |
| 03:17.19 | Aens|Superiority | couple deadens got kicked |
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| 03:17.52 | Nandini | are you just referring to the target frame? |
| 03:17.58 | Aens|Superiority | yes |
| 03:18.21 | Nandini | you might want to use a cast bar replacement for player, target, and focus frames, like quartz |
| 03:18.54 | Nandini | i think you can do a blacklist in quartz |
| 03:18.58 | Aens|Superiority | I use quartz only for castbar and mirror. I use pitbull and aloft for target castbars |
| 03:19.16 | Nandini | quartz can do your target's castbar too |
| 03:20.02 | Aens|Superiority | I know it can, but unless you can dock it with pitbull's frames, it serves no purpose for me. |
| 03:20.15 | Nandini | you can move it anywhere you want |
| 03:20.32 | Nandini | why do you need to "dock" it? |
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| 03:22.08 | aestil | i'm randomly having problems typing in symbols. |
| 03:22.22 | Nandini | what sort of symbols? |
| 03:22.32 | aestil | like shift + numbers... not workign properly, any wierd reports of errors liek that? |
| 03:22.32 | Nandini | and where are you typing them? :) |
| 03:22.45 | Nandini | shift key gets stuck in this patch |
| 03:22.53 | Nandini | known issue, supposed to be fixed in next patch |
| 03:23.04 | Nandini | to unstick, try pressing the opposite shift key a few times |
| 03:23.13 | aestil | hmm. |
| 03:24.37 | Nandini | your mileage may vary, that doesn't always work for me and i have to /reloadui |
| 03:25.18 | Wobwork | another thing that may work |
| 03:25.25 | Wobwork | is alt-tabbing out |
| 03:25.33 | Wobwork | then holding shift, and alt-tabbing back in |
| 03:25.40 | Wobwork | again ymmv |
| 03:25.49 | Wobwork | (bloody irritating) |
| 03:25.50 | Nandini | i wonder who discovered that, i would never have thought to try that |
| 03:26.02 | Nandini | didyou? |
| 03:26.14 | Wobwork | Well it worked for me accidentally |
| 03:26.28 | Wobwork | but I'm used to some other window taking the focus |
| 03:26.35 | Wobwork | and leaving me with a sticky key |
| 03:27.14 | Nandini | apparently the bug was introduced when they allow you to differentiate between right and left modifier keys |
| 03:28.02 | Nandini | because i KNOW i need a macro with a conditional that "if i'm holding left alt and left shift and right control while clicking, do this" |
| 03:28.15 | cirdan | anyone notice a bug where you can't click on a button, but shift-click works? |
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| 03:28.26 | Nandini | it may be related, cirdan |
| 03:29.09 | cirdan | have that problem on the mount button on serenity |
| 03:29.50 | Nandini | the thing that annoys me most is that many of us reported this "sticky" problem during PTR testing and the devs told us they couldn't reproduce it |
| 03:30.12 | cirdan | yeah |
| 03:30.14 | Nandini | and that maybe we should get new keyboards |
| 03:30.22 | cirdan | the most annoying bug i have seen is with trinketmenu |
| 03:30.29 | cirdan | sometimes the UI just gets all screwey |
| 03:30.37 | cirdan | and resizing gets totally busted |
| 03:30.46 | Wobwork | xloot is doing that on one of my toons |
| 03:30.59 | Wobwork | omg HUGE LOOT WINDOW |
| 03:31.04 | Wobwork | (with one item) |
| 03:31.21 | Nandini | i guess it's just a side effect of them introducing so many unrelated small changes, none of which were the focus of any serious testing |
| 03:31.37 | Nandini | "test the voice chat!" "test the upgraded sound engine!" |
| 03:31.58 | Wobwork | "Doesn't work" "Doesn't work" |
| 03:32.04 | Wobwork | "Oh alright, lets release" |
| 03:32.15 | Nandini | yup, i still have no sound with x64 drivers |
| 03:32.28 | Wobwork | My sound cuts out at random |
| 03:32.30 | Fisker- | same here Wobwork b tw |
| 03:32.38 | Fisker- | probably Antiarc who screwed it up |
| 03:32.39 | Fisker- | :( |
| 03:32.50 | Fisker- | work tiem |
| 03:33.24 | Nandini | the strange thing is, i have great sound with other games that use fmod 4.x |
| 03:33.55 | Wobwork | Perhaps Blizzard merely screwed up =) |
| 03:34.22 | Nandini | they're only human, after all |
| 03:34.27 | Kerafyrm | blasphemy! |
| 03:34.31 | Kerafyrm | blizzard can't screw up! |
| 03:34.34 | Kerafyrm | working as intended! |
| 03:34.39 | Nandini | they really should hire some goblin developers |
| 03:34.50 | Nandini | although some goblin devices have some nasty bugs too. heheheh |
| 03:34.59 | NightHawkTheSane | blarg. >< I was in the middle of ram racing and my server crashed, i got one run in, and now i can't do it again for 12 hours.. |
| 03:35.29 | Nandini | that's what you get for crashing the server! |
| 03:35.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i know. I ram ride so hardcore, the server can't handle it. |
| 03:36.01 | aestil | no, its my computer. |
| 03:36.15 | aestil | anyone know of a reason, why holding shift+numbers for symbols is screwing up? |
| 03:36.17 | aestil | @@@@222 |
| 03:36.23 | aestil | only randomly though |
| 03:36.38 | Nandini | bad contact under your shift key? does it happen with either shift key? |
| 03:37.34 | aestil | yes, |
| 03:37.46 | aestil | actually, its not that the shift doesn't work, its that it blocks anything from being output. |
| 03:37.49 | aestil | @@@@@@ |
| 03:37.52 | aestil | not always. |
| 03:38.11 | aestil | numbers in general seem to not owrk great |
| 03:38.13 | aestil | hmm |
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| 03:39.07 | Nandini | bad contacts under the number keys then? do you get better results with +++++++ and ======= than @@@@@@@ and 2222222 ? |
| 03:40.39 | aestil | its not freaking consistant. |
| 03:40.50 | aestil | arg. |
| 03:40.57 | Nandini | that would be indicative of a bad contact |
| 03:41.00 | aestil | maybe dell will replace the laptop over this, and the heat issues. |
| 03:41.13 | Nandini | is it worse on some keys than others? |
| 03:41.15 | aestil | and the wireless connection problems. |
| 03:41.25 | aestil | i don't notice a pater yet. |
| 03:42.43 | Nandini | if you are running wow on your laptop, you will find it hard to avoid heat issues |
| 03:43.46 | Nandini | i have to purposely crank down the CPU speed on my laptop to play wow or it will overheat in about 15 minutes |
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| 03:44.01 | Nandini | it's an inspiron 700m |
| 03:44.31 | yssaril | Nandini: depends on the laptop have a HP pavilion dv9000 no issues at all running everything cranked to the highest |
| 03:45.13 | Nandini | true, one of the newer xps laptops from dell should probably not have issues either |
| 03:46.00 | Nandini | now i just use my laptop for running 4 virtual pcs |
| 03:46.10 | Nandini | each one has nt workstation 4.0 running on it. LOL |
| 03:46.42 | Nandini | you can get it down to a memory footprint of 11MB |
| 03:46.59 | Xelopheris | yeah but then you have the problem of running NT 4.0 |
| 03:47.20 | Nandini | the only thing i run on it is Gomez Peer, so i make about $45 a month just for leaving it running |
| 03:47.26 | Xelopheris | I mean, it's easy to footprint 11MB when your OS doesn't know how to index it's own memory properly |
| 03:48.23 | Nandini | i toss 64 MB of RAM at each VM and let them each chug away with their peer client running |
| 03:48.34 | Nandini | and i limit their CPU usage, to force them to spend more time processing |
| 03:48.38 | Xelopheris | lol, so how many VMs do you have running gomez peer? |
| 03:48.40 | Nandini | (more time processing = more money for me) |
| 03:48.55 | Nandini | 4 VMs running the peer, plus 1 copy running on the host |
| 03:49.18 | Nandini | and i only let the VMs each use 10% total cpu time |
| 03:49.19 | Xelopheris | hrm, you're giving me great ideas |
| 03:49.36 | Xelopheris | I've got access to my highschool's servers still... |
| 03:49.52 | Xelopheris | let's just modify the startup script a bit |
| 03:49.54 | Nandini | i started out with the VMs running Win98SE, then i went to install the peer client and realized it only runs on NT/2k/xp/vista LOL |
| 03:50.06 | Nandini | you can actually run the java peer without the thing popping up in the tray |
| 03:50.20 | Nandini | i forget the command line to start it that way |
| 03:50.42 | Nandini | and usually no one notices an instance of java.exe running |
| 03:50.54 | Nandini | since it is completely invisible |
| 03:51.34 | Nandini | of course when they look at firewall logs and see outgoing HTTP requests to servers all over the internet in the middle of the night, they may become suspicious :P |
| 03:52.10 | Nandini | i looked at the leaderboards and one guy earned his $45 within 2 hours of the month starting |
| 03:52.33 | Nandini | i can't imagine how many clients it would take to do that |
| 03:52.54 | Nandini | i think it would have to be hundreds |
| 03:53.22 | Nandini | if you're gonna use VMs to run the client, make sure you use Virtual Server (or VMWare) or something that can limit the processor usage |
| 03:54.21 | Nandini | if you limit it to 10% of usage or so, it will spend 10x more longer doing "processing" which i think is what you get paid the most for |
| 03:55.43 | Nandini | also, i plugged in a USB wireless adapter and assigned it to the VMs, so i use my neighbor's bandwidth for the peer and my own bandwidth for WoW. LOL |
| 03:55.47 | Kerafyrm | what an awsome thing for an most idle web server to do |
| 03:55.50 | CIA-12 | 03treibh * r51337 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua BuffWindow.lua localization_enUS.lua): |
| 03:55.50 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 03:55.50 | CIA-12 | - allow you to select which groups will be examined for flasks/buffs in a raid |
| 03:55.50 | CIA-12 | - added the Gruul flasks |
| 03:55.53 | Kerafyrm | sitting in a cage in dallas.. lol |
| 03:57.29 | Nandini | Kerafyrm: it requires the machine to be logged in, unless you can write a service that runs it for you after you set it up |
| 03:58.05 | Nandini | but if you don't mind leaving it logged in and locked (or logging in a remote session and locking it) that works too |
| 03:59.23 | Kerafyrm | just install vm ware on that box |
| 03:59.37 | Nandini | alternatively, install virtual server on the web server, install a lightweight OS (NT workstation/2k pro/stripped down xp), set the guest OS to autologon, and set the VM to run automatically |
| 03:59.45 | Nandini | or vmware :) |
| 03:59.52 | Kerafyrm | xp-embedded :) |
| 04:00.17 | Kerafyrm | wonder what kind of bw consumption there is |
| 04:00.44 | Nandini | you specify the type of connection you have, then you can tell it to do more or less work |
| 04:01.25 | Kerafyrm | yeah but i'm talking sustained bw.. 1mbps? |
| 04:01.29 | Nandini | but if they send your peer a lot of work units, you can have it processing almost constantly |
| 04:01.45 | Kerafyrm | ahhh |
| 04:01.45 | Nandini | the key is slowing down the VM so it spends most of its time processing and not uploading and downloading :) |
| 04:02.05 | Kerafyrm | welp, best apply first |
| 04:02.14 | Kerafyrm | before i go and do any work for this.. |
| 04:02.15 | Nandini | can i refer you? |
| 04:02.26 | Nandini | $2.00 for me if you get accepted |
| 04:02.27 | Kerafyrm | i suppose.. lol |
| 04:02.35 | Nandini | put in jt12852 on the form if it lets you |
| 04:03.12 | Nandini | and you won't get accepted until you leave it running for a couple days usually (it took 3 days for me) |
| 04:03.48 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51338 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 04:03.48 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 04:03.48 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 04:04.56 | Kerafyrm | noted |
| 04:05.00 | Nandini | i used to work at Ameritrade and we contracted them for performance/uptime analysis, they're a good and respected company |
| 04:05.08 | Kerafyrm | do they track what ip's the client is running from? |
| 04:05.19 | Nandini | yes |
| 04:05.22 | Kerafyrm | i work for a large .com company and we use gomez for our monitoring |
| 04:06.06 | Nandini | you can have more than one client running behind a NAT tho |
| 04:06.38 | Nandini | i don't think it even notes the local IP address, it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the gomez.dat config file, i see my external IP address there |
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| 04:07.17 | Kerafyrm | you can specifiy what ip it runs on thou, yeah? |
| 04:07.17 | Nandini | it does note the machine name, however, so you can't run multiple clients on one machine (it saves it in the registry) |
| 04:07.22 | Kerafyrm | cuz i'll have to acl it thru my firewall |
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| 04:09.15 | Nandini | i'm not sure i understand what you're asking. if you have multiple IPs assigned to one interface, i don't think you can choose which one it sends from |
| 04:09.44 | Nandini | or which one it listens on |
| 04:10.09 | Nandini | that's easy to work around if you run it within a VM tho |
| 04:10.17 | Kerafyrm | true |
| 04:11.01 | Kerafyrm | not gonna let this run from with my vlan from my provider.. i'll pickup another vlan to keep it seperated from my important traffic |
| 04:11.35 | Nandini | it looks like it does its own bandwidth test every time the client starts up |
| 04:11.46 | Nandini | and the server uses that as an estimate when assigning work units |
| 04:12.24 | Nandini | i noticed the peer running on my host OS has not worked much today, that could be because i had bittorrent running when i started the peer |
| 04:12.43 | Kerafyrm | gotcha |
| 04:13.00 | Kerafyrm | hafta make sure to throttle the network down too then.. lol |
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| 04:14.09 | CIA-12 | 03eraslin * r51339 10DKPmon/main.lua: DKPmon: Fix to autologging start. |
| 04:14.18 | Nandini | there is a little "performance manager" bar you can slide from min to max, it suggests min for dialup users and max for broadband users |
| 04:16.20 | Nandini | if you decide to run more than one VM with the peer, make sure you delay the other VMs' startup time a bit to allow each peer to initialize separately |
| 04:16.32 | Nandini | otherwise they may all perform their little bandwidth test at the same time |
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| 04:17.28 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r606 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (WidgetWarlock.lua OHFrame.lua): TourGuide - Move scrollbar code into WidgetWarlock, various tweaks to scrollbar behavior |
| 04:18.04 | Kerafyrm | prolly won't set the vm's to auto start |
| 04:18.26 | Kerafyrm | the server has been up for 9months without a reboot, and i have ipkvm access to all my hosted boxes so. |
| 04:18.39 | *** join/#wowace pakoz (n=asd@71-93-39-179.static.snlo.ca.charter.com) |
| 04:18.43 | Nandini | no need in that case |
| 04:19.04 | pakoz | anyone know a command for a full wipe of any data omen has? ( i want to reset agro manually during a fight) |
| 04:19.07 | Nandini | if something important enough happens to cause you to restart the server, you will probably want to investigate that before starting up any VMs anyway |
| 04:19.11 | Kerafyrm | do you know if the peer client only operates on port 80? |
| 04:19.32 | Nandini | it also sends out requests on 443 i think to test SSL sites |
| 04:19.51 | Nandini | i suppose if gomez' customers give them sites to test with nonstandard ports, it might try and do that |
| 04:19.54 | Kerafyrm | makes sense, might as well set the acl up now since i'm logged into my pix |
| 04:20.08 | Nandini | but in that case, your client would simply tell gomez the site was unreachable |
| 04:20.16 | Kerafyrm | right |
| 04:20.37 | Nandini | no big deal, gomez tells that to the customer and the customer thinks "thank god i have gomez to monitor all this for me!" |
| 04:20.41 | *** join/#wowace Knaledge (n=Knaledge@97.4.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 04:21.15 | Nandini | if gomez told me our sites were reachable 100% of the time, i would stop paying them. LOL |
| 04:22.04 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 04:22.14 | Nandini | also alerts us to issues slightly upstream in our provider's network that we might not have noticed otherwise |
| 04:23.05 | Nandini | if the whole country suddenly gets ridiculously low response times at 8 PM and our provider fails to disclose that to us as required by our SLA, we can call them on it |
| 04:23.51 | Kerafyrm | gomez has a pretty good thing going |
| 04:23.58 | Nandini | it has made them much more forthcoming to us. LOL |
| 04:24.20 | Nandini | yeah they have actually been doing this since 1997 i think |
| 04:24.34 | Nandini | back then they just licensed the peer technology from porvivo but i think they bought them out a few years back |
| 04:24.48 | Nandini | or maybe porivo, i don't recall exactly |
| 04:25.28 | Nandini | and average everyday users get a nice little chunk of money for doing something fairly non-disruptive |
| 04:26.05 | Kerafyrm | agreed |
| 04:26.14 | Nandini | knowing what we pay gomez though, it's obvious that from THIS side of the peer, i only get a small fraction of the money back, they must be making a good profit. heheh |
| 04:28.27 | Kerafyrm | yeah.. if you have to run 5 instances to get 45 a month |
| 04:28.31 | Nandini | the peer itself can use quite a bit of memory during heavy processing, make sure your VM has about 48-64M free above what the OS is using |
| 04:28.31 | Kerafyrm | thats pretty harsh.. lol |
| 04:28.46 | Nandini | i have to run 5 instances AND slow them down to force them to process more |
| 04:29.02 | Kerafyrm | yeah... this web server is a monster. quad core with 8gigs |
| 04:29.10 | Kerafyrm | and its only about 7% used atm |
| 04:29.27 | Nandini | consolidate! |
| 04:29.36 | Nandini | or run 64 peers in VMs :) |
| 04:29.40 | Kerafyrm | no need, it pays for itself already |
| 04:29.44 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 04:29.59 | Nandini | make yourself a couple more paypal accounts and get $135 a month |
| 04:30.09 | Kerafyrm | this is just for fun |
| 04:30.27 | Nandini | it is kind of fun to think that every once in a while, i may be monitoring OUR servers |
| 04:30.33 | Kerafyrm | yup |
| 04:30.44 | pakoz | anyone know a command for a full wipe of any data omen has? ( i want to reset agro manually during a fight) |
| 04:31.09 | Kerafyrm | my whole lil hosting operation is fully self-sustaining.. i take my lil cut of profit off the top each month so long as there are no issues |
| 04:31.10 | Nandini | i'm sorry, i don't know of any, pakoz |
| 04:31.51 | Nandini | in any case, threat 1.0 would be the part that would reset threat i think |
| 04:32.16 | Nandini | omen only knows what threat tells it |
| 04:32.43 | pakoz | well its keeping data on RoS |
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| 04:32.46 | vithos | type /omen, read the command list |
| 04:32.53 | vithos | it's /omen reset |
| 04:33.11 | vithos | must be done by a raid leader or assistant |
| 04:33.24 | pakoz | thx |
| 04:34.43 | Nandini | if it isn't resetting threat automatically at some time when it should be, you should post about it in the Threat and/or Omen threads |
| 04:35.50 | pakoz | i think its cause we have some people with ktm |
| 04:37.33 | Nandini | i wonder if omen's reset command goes through Threat an gets translated to a KTM reset command for KTM users |
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| 04:38.27 | Nandini | otherwise they may keep sending you wrong threat too |
| 04:40.54 | Knaledge | if that isn't already implemented that would be a nice feature |
| 04:40.58 | Kerafyrm | sucks theres no linux client... |
| 04:41.05 | Kerafyrm | you can make linux sooooooo lightweight. |
| 04:41.56 | Nandini | yeah, the best i could do was NT4 Wks, updated to SP6a, then all services disabled except RPC |
| 04:42.15 | Knaledge | s there a way to cast a spell based around whether or not the spell is "already active" via macro? |
| 04:42.19 | Nandini | make sure you unbind clients and services from TCP/IP first |
| 04:42.33 | Kerafyrm | i messed with xp-embedded a while back.. you can get it down to about 800megs |
| 04:42.50 | Knaledge | like if I want to have a "sinister strike" button that casts SS but also casts SnD |
| 04:42.59 | Nandini | Knaledge: no, you cannot use auras as conditions in macros |
| 04:43.04 | Knaledge | an I want that same macro to "be aware" of whether or not SnD is already up |
| 04:43.09 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 04:43.19 | Nandini | unless that aura is also a stance |
| 04:44.04 | Knaledge | what about casting something when so many points are present? |
| 04:44.13 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r51340 10Prescription/Prescription.lua: Prescription: Officer chat reporting and Unstable flasks added |
| 04:44.16 | Nandini | nope, macros know nothing about combo points :( |
| 04:44.18 | Knaledge | like if target has 5 points, /cast Rupture |
| 04:44.26 | Knaledge | balls |
| 04:44.34 | Nandini | they want you to have to push more than 1 key to play rogue :P |
| 04:44.51 | Knaledge | well the thing is I can cast all of these just fine |
| 04:45.09 | Knaledge | but one thing that is bugging me is that one of my trinkets makes a noise when it is not ready |
| 04:45.32 | Knaledge | and for whatever reason the trinket's CD timer is on the icon for te macro on my hotbar as well |
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| 04:46.13 | Nandini | if you put #show at the top of your macro it should change to whatever spell/item comes next i think |
| 04:46.47 | Hjalte | Installing DoTimers make me lag considerably.. Why's that? |
| 04:46.58 | Knaledge | updates |
| 04:47.06 | Wobwork | Perhaps... DoTimers is causing the lag! |
| 04:47.06 | Nandini | but if "/use Trinket" is the first thing in the macro, it will always show when it comes around to it next |
| 04:47.22 | Knaledge | well the macro is basic atm |
| 04:47.27 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.29 | Hjalte | Wobwork, oh really?! |
| 04:47.31 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.33 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r607 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (StatusFrame.lua OHFrame.lua): TourGuide - Crop off borders from blizzy icons |
| 04:47.36 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.08 | CIA-12 | 03whitetooth * r51341 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: |
| 04:48.08 | CIA-12 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 04:48.08 | CIA-12 | - Updates Lightheaded panel when clicking on the quest |
| 04:48.09 | Wobwork | Hjalte: A possibility, to be sure! |
| 04:48.13 | Nandini | try putting #show at the top of the macro and see if the feedback (icon, cooldown, tooltip) for it changes after each press |
| 04:48.15 | Knaledge | I think I could even make it /use 13; use 14; cast Sinister Strike |
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| 04:48.36 | Knaledge | k |
| 04:49.16 | Nandini | although you can use /cast Item Name or /castsequence Item Name for usable items, i'm not sure you can put a slot number in a cast or castsequence |
| 04:50.51 | Nandini | i've never tried it before though, so you can maybe put them all in castsequence, and even put a reset timer on the sequence |
| 04:50.58 | Knaledge | meh the one annoying part now (that fixed it btw - thanks) |
| 04:51.04 | Knaledge | is the sound it makes |
| 04:51.13 | Nandini | so that it always starts over at the trinket when the trinket's cooldown is over |
| 04:51.14 | Knaledge | like this hollow.... air sound |
| 04:51.27 | Wobwork | Murmur's cronk noise? |
| 04:52.01 | Knaledge | It just displays "Item is not ready yet." and then makes a noise each press |
| 04:52.05 | Wobwork | Murmur fights always sound like a clown tumbling into the brass section of the orchestra |
| 04:52.06 | Knaledge | kind of annoying |
| 04:52.15 | Wobwork | (disturbingly funny) |
| 04:52.32 | orionshock | so did the translators have any more fun with rock lib? |
| 04:52.52 | Nandini | i don't know, i haven't logged on to my friend's account to test, since he's raiding right now |
| 04:53.05 | Nandini | i'm sure he would be unhappy if i logged on his account in the middle of him raiding. heheh |
| 04:53.49 | Nandini | no one has run in here screaming about problems tho, so they must not have broken anything |
| 04:53.55 | Knaledge | any way to turn off error noises like tha? |
| 04:54.00 | Knaledge | it only happens for the one trinket |
| 04:54.11 | Nandini | which trinket? |
| 04:54.20 | Knaledge | Bladefist's Breadth (I know...) |
| 04:55.06 | Nandini | if i can find the sound file it plays, you can create a blank sound file in the same spot that wow will use instead |
| 04:55.15 | Knaledge | hah |
| 04:55.16 | Nandini | wait is changing sound files allowed? |
| 04:55.19 | Knaledge | no it's very generic |
| 04:55.33 | Knaledge | it's something used throughout the interface |
| 04:55.48 | Nandini | i know changing interface textures is allowed, so maybe changing interface sounds is allowed |
| 04:55.49 | Knaledge | I just was hoping there'd be some sort of off, then on again toggle via script |
| 04:56.39 | Nandini | you can toggle sounds off, but then you'd have a moment of no sound at all until it was turned back on |
| 04:56.58 | Knaledge | yeah F that |
| 04:57.33 | Knaledge | well I was entirely hoping there'd be a way to get a bit more creative with macros |
| 04:57.47 | Knaledge | but... seems like it's as basic as I perceived it to be |
| 04:57.54 | Nandini | you can get very creative, you just can't have them thinking and making too many decisions for you |
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| 04:58.02 | Knaledge | I'm sure there's a bit of depth but there's like this brick wall once you reach a certain point |
| 04:58.07 | Knaledge | yeah definitely |
| 04:58.48 | Knaledge | Also - anyone know a way to get a hold of the FuriousRaid peple? |
| 04:58.50 | Nandini | i have a macro that only if i am in bear form, shifts me out, uses a health stone and potion if i have one, then shifts me back to bear form |
| 04:59.40 | Knaledge | Or have a suggestion regarding a fairly comprehensive in-game DKP management system? Furious is OK but its clunky |
| 05:00.56 | Nandini | i don't play my own chars currently, and i was never in charge of DKP in my guild before, i honestly don't remember what they used |
| 05:01.16 | Knaledge | we use CT_RaidTracker atm |
| 05:01.17 | Knaledge | belh |
| 05:01.21 | Knaledge | *bleh, even |
| 05:02.27 | Knaledge | we use eqDKP externally and want something in-game that's capable of tracking waitlist attendance points, loot valuation, DKP totals per member/class, and stuff.. |
| 05:03.07 | Nandini | you might check the raid forums on wowace.com and see what people there are talking about a lot |
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| 05:03.36 | Nandini | DKPmon seems to be updated pretty often, i don't know what all features it has |
| 05:03.50 | Knaledge | we're doing it where all armor is prioritized based on attendance points (minor expense if won). Above a certain number is allowed to "roll off" and then it goes to highest roll. All weapons/trinkets/rings are DKP purchaseable - that DKP is earned off of kills, bonuses, items taken, etc. |
| 05:04.01 | Knaledge | hrm yeh |
| 05:04.11 | Knaledge | I'll check that out for sur |
| 05:04.17 | Knaledge | fucking Mac keyboard |
| 05:04.21 | Knaledge | all squished together |
| 05:04.26 | CIA-12 | 03xionglingfeng * r51342 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - Chs updated. |
| 05:04.28 | kebinusan | Just use GetDKP+ to pull the info from your dkp site and make it available in game imo |
| 05:04.29 | Nandini | DKPmon seems to have modules for importing/exporting to eqDKP as well |
| 05:05.11 | Knaledge | well either of those suggestions work but we are like.. almost making our own DKP rule set |
| 05:05.18 | Knaledge | and can't find anything to accomodate that |
| 05:05.21 | Knaledge | not even the tracking |
| 05:05.53 | Nandini | sometimes pencil and paper are the most reliable technology :) |
| 05:05.53 | Knaledge | ideally it'd be two tables per instance: 1) attendance and 2) kills, bonuses, items taken, etc. |
| 05:06.06 | Knaledge | lol very true |
| 05:06.17 | Knaledge | but what's crappy is that FuriousRaid actually DOES the above but.. |
| 05:06.21 | Knaledge | there's no damn documentation |
| 05:07.00 | kebinusan | You can do that pretty easily in eqdkp, seperate raids for each thing |
| 05:07.08 | Knaledge | so it's like this seemingly complex addon created for the people that made it and they made it public but didn't figureothers would like it heh. |
| 05:07.13 | kebinusan | at least if you want something more complex than simply attendance percentage |
| 05:07.22 | Knaledge | in eqDKP? |
| 05:07.59 | Knaledge | see we don't want ultiple forums though |
| 05:07.59 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 05:07.59 | Knaledge | just the one "forum" (instance) but with two... "tables" |
| 05:07.59 | Knaledge | or rule sets |
| 05:08.07 | Knaledge | but can't seem to figure how to get eqDKP to do that |
| 05:08.24 | kebinusan | Well are you just tracking attendance or are you tracking some sort of point value for attendance |
| 05:08.40 | kebinusan | And then I guess the question would be attendance by instance or just overall attendance |
| 05:08.50 | Knaledge | well we want to stop people saving points. initially we thought "Hey - let's just make armor free and all weapons/trinks/rings cost DKP" |
| 05:09.10 | Knaledge | (this is being tested with upcoming Zul-aman) |
| 05:09.30 | Knaledge | but then we thought well people might not like roll-offs for armor so let's tie in attendance to armor |
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| 05:09.43 | Knaledge | so we need attendance tracked... but points given for that attendance |
| 05:09.56 | Wobwork | EPGP? |
| 05:10.04 | Knaledge | hourly, waitlist, etc. - it's all the same. If you're online and in the raid/on the waitlist - you attended = you get points |
| 05:10.22 | Knaledge | yeah I looked at that but they pussyfoot lot of it thought it seems |
| 05:10.39 | Knaledge | oh you get more priority because you helped and showed up and bla bla bla |
| 05:10.57 | Knaledge | attendance = points for armor, kills/etc. = points for weaps/trinks/rings |
| 05:10.59 | Knaledge | boom, easy |
| 05:11.29 | Knaledge | except... no raid tracker does that yet |
| 05:11.29 | Knaledge | except FuriousRaid it seems.. but no documentatin |
| 05:11.50 | Nandini | if the creators of furiousraid are maintaining it, they don't seem to be updating it on the wowace site anymore |
| 05:11.51 | kebinusan | its certainly possible but its a bit more than I do with our dkp system |
| 05:11.52 | Knaledge | not to mention EPGP hasn't been updated in forever |
| 05:12.26 | kebinusan | eqdkpplus at least its very easy to maintain seperate pools for armor/nonarmor for example |
| 05:12.30 | do3mca | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.49 | Knaledge | eqdkpplus? |
| 05:13.04 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r51343 10ProfessionsBook/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 05:13.04 | CIA-12 | ProfessionsBook : |
| 05:13.04 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 05:13.05 | Knaledge | is that an addon / eqdkp plugin combo? |
| 05:13.18 | kebinusan | news.php |
| 05:13.22 | kebinusan | err |
| 05:13.29 | kebinusan | http://www.eqdkp-plus.com/news.php |
| 05:13.46 | kebinusan | yeah a basically modded eqdkp with a bunch of plugins and such |
| 05:15.25 | Knaledge | and then use what? DKPmon to import into game? |
| 05:15.39 | kebinusan | I use GetDKP for that, you could use dkpmon tho |
| 05:15.46 | Knaledge | yeah def |
| 05:16.07 | kebinusan | Im not a fan of DKPMon, and I hate having to use a client for a bidder |
| 05:16.21 | Knaledge | well I run Mac also |
| 05:16.26 | kebinusan | not really an issue |
| 05:16.32 | Knaledge | so.. I'm a bit limited - hence if I can keep it all in-game I'd like to |
| 05:16.35 | orionshock | dee dee deeeee |
| 05:16.48 | orionshock | type() returns a String Value |
| 05:16.49 | Nandini | lol after struggling through most of the eqdkpplus page, i just saw at the top there's an english option. LOL |
| 05:16.50 | orionshock | >.> |
| 05:17.00 | Knaledge | lol |
| 05:17.00 | kebinusan | Nandini: hehe |
| 05:17.07 | Knaledge | good luck though nandini |
| 05:17.12 | Knaledge | all that is translated in their news page |
| 05:17.35 | Nandini | well, i lived and went to school in germany for a year, but that was 15 years ago, so i have forgotten quite a bit |
| 05:17.53 | kebinusan | I just use wget and pull down a php page that exports the crap I need in game |
| 05:18.10 | kebinusan | since I play wow on linux, no need for silly exes |
| 05:18.14 | Nandini | when i write to my family there, i have to spend a lot of time re-reading what i wrote, to make sure i didn't write something bad |
| 05:18.21 | Knaledge | hah |
| 05:19.34 | Paene | Anyone familiar with CreateFrame wanna tell me if I'm doing this even remotely right? :D |
| 05:19.34 | Paene | http://ace.pastey.net/75023 |
| 05:19.48 | Nandini | we got a puppy recently and had his tail "docked" (some breeds of dogs you cut most of the tail off when it is young), and i realized that cutting off a dogs tail (in german) is very similar to cutting something else off |
| 05:20.57 | Wobwork | well.. if you miss the tail... |
| 05:20.57 | Nandini | and we did NOT have our puppy circumcised. LOL |
| 05:21.15 | Nandini | or cut off his penis. heheh |
| 05:21.36 | Nandini | the nutz had to go, though, poor puppy |
| 05:23.43 | do3mca | hast halt den schwanz abgeschnitten. na und? |
| 05:23.53 | orionshock | need to convert string to number-- help |
| 05:23.53 | theoddone33 | I'm gonna have to look at some 70 mage specs because I definitely don't know where to go after filling up fire |
| 05:24.37 | Wobwork | ~x de en hast halt den schwanz abgeschnitten. na und? |
| 05:25.03 | do3mca | stop? |
| 05:25.08 | do3mca | oh |
| 05:25.13 | Nandini | strings convert automatically to numbers in Lua, as long as they can be converted |
| 05:25.36 | Nandini | you can use the tonumber function to do it explicitly tho |
| 05:26.40 | orionshock | well.. you see.... |
| 05:26.49 | Nandini | tonumber(string) will return nil if the string couldn't be converted |
| 05:26.59 | orionshock | dewdrop passes string values when you hit enter on an edit box... |
| 05:28.00 | orionshock | any way to get it to not puke when you pass a full string to tonumber()? |
| 05:28.13 | Nandini | it shouldn't puke, it should just return nil |
| 05:28.19 | orionshock | it pukes |
| 05:29.00 | Nandini | n = tostring("not a number") |
| 05:29.12 | Nandini | n should be nil after that i think |
| 05:29.21 | orionshock | well it begins to hate when you do number = tostring(number) |
| 05:31.10 | Wobwork | lua> tonumber("frogs and wombles") |
| 05:31.10 | cladbot | Wobwork: nil, |
| 05:31.10 | Wobwork | (3:28:56 PM) cladbot: Wobwork: nil, |
| 05:31.15 | kadrahil | wow's new mac movie recording at its finest: http://files.filefront.com/Silvermoon+City+100807+000mov/;8743832;/fileinfo.html |
| 05:31.17 | Wobwork | ah, cladbot's here =) |
| 05:31.35 | Wobwork | lua> tostring("bing?") |
| 05:31.35 | cladbot | Wobwork: bing?, |
| 05:31.40 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51344 10Automaton/modules/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:31.40 | CIA-12 | Automaton: |
| 05:31.40 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 05:32.05 | Paene | Wobwork: Help me plz! :) |
| 05:32.17 | Wobwork | Paene: It looks fine |
| 05:32.20 | Paene | doh |
| 05:32.22 | Wobwork | what's the problem? |
| 05:32.27 | Paene | nothing is showing up :( |
| 05:32.33 | orionshock | lua> number = "notANumber"; number = tostring(number); print(number) |
| 05:32.33 | cladbot | orionshock: notANumber |
| 05:32.44 | orionshock | lua> number = "notANumber"; number = tonumber(number); print(number) |
| 05:32.45 | cladbot | orionshock: nil |
| 05:33.31 | Wobwork | highly confusing variable names, orionshock =P |
| 05:33.34 | orionshock | well wow was thowing an ugly error |
| 05:34.53 | Nandini | are you using the number (as a string) as a table key somewhere? |
| 05:35.17 | orionshock | no |
| 05:35.37 | orionshock | here let me commit you'll understand :D |
| 05:36.44 | Wobwork | Paene: Is it using the global value or your created one? |
| 05:37.46 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r51345 10aUF_CC/ (Locale-koKR.lua aUF_CC.toc): |
| 05:37.46 | CIA-12 | aUF_CC: |
| 05:37.47 | CIA-12 | - toc update |
| 05:37.47 | CIA-12 | - Add locale koKR |
| 05:38.54 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r51346 10FuBar_ReportAFK/ (. ReportAFK.lua): |
| 05:38.54 | CIA-12 | FuBar_ReportAFK: |
| 05:38.54 | CIA-12 | -Make SetReportLimit() actually set something instead of being retarded. |
| 05:38.54 | CIA-12 | -Added License to addon: "WTFPL" |
| 05:38.54 | CIA-12 | -adjust log template because the svn script is bitchie |
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| 05:40.13 | Nandini | well i can look at the code and check syntax, but i can't run it atm, so you'll have to describe what kind of errors you get |
| 05:40.45 | Nandini | but as purl will tell you, i'm still very new at all this |
| 05:40.49 | orionshock | i used dewdrop for the plugin to set the report limit |
| 05:41.39 | orionshock | and it was passing a string value |
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| 05:41.55 | orionshock | i for got to tonumber it because the logic said that if it wasn't a number to discard it |
| 05:42.09 | orionshock | *to tonumber it before the logic started |
| 05:42.16 | Cairenn|afk | orionshock: that's because I monitor 14+ channels at any given time, so unless someone actually says my name in here, I don't say much |
| 05:42.31 | orionshock | oh Hi Cairenn|afk :D |
| 05:42.36 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 05:42.45 | Nandini | eek Cairenn|afk is borg! |
| 05:42.58 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 05:42.59 | Nandini | tapped into the collective consciousness, it seems :) |
| 05:43.01 | orionshock | i figured you where busy and thats why you don't say much |
| 05:43.55 | Cairenn|afk | orionshock: you're more likely to find me chatting in the lounge :) |
| 05:44.15 | Nandini | hmm... a social borg, very curious :) |
| 05:44.29 | Cairenn|afk | Nandini: lol |
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| 05:45.46 | Wobwork | She is the Canadian borg, resistance is unadvisable, please stand by for eventual assimilation |
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| 05:45.56 | Cairenn|afk | but really, with 14+ channels and 7 sites as my norm ... yeah, I don't talk a lot in the channels that aren't my "primary" ones unless someone actively pings me |
| 05:48.00 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r608 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (TourGuide.lua OHFrame.lua): |
| 05:48.00 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide |
| 05:48.00 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Fixed Obj panel not updating when guide is changed |
| 05:48.00 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Fixed issues with later parts of multi-part quests showing as accepted in the OH panel when scrolled past the current part |
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| 05:48.55 | Nandini | orionshock: what is the offending numberstring? |
| 05:49.08 | orionshock | (text) |
| 05:49.19 | Wobwork | literally? |
| 05:49.22 | orionshock | i fixed so no worries |
| 05:49.44 | orionshock | it's what the dewdrop doc's say |
| 05:50.24 | Nandini | i was about to say, it looks fine in the revision i just grabbed |
| 05:50.47 | orionshock | something before 51346? |
| 05:53.09 | orionshock | ok they need to NERF THOSE PALLADINS again |
| 05:53.13 | orionshock | and hard this time |
| 05:53.23 | Nandini | you should throw a revision keyword in your files somewhere so i don't have to pry it out of SVN. heheh |
| 05:54.36 | orionshock | ok so who in their "Gifted" mind at blizard decided that JoJ was nessisary? |
| 05:54.47 | Paene | how do you set a frame as movable? is it button:SetAttribute("movable", true)? |
| 05:55.24 | Nandini | ~api setmovable |
| 05:55.25 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_setmovable |
| 05:55.30 | Paene | ooo |
| 05:55.33 | Paene | cool |
| 05:55.34 | Nandini | nope that's not it |
| 05:55.38 | Paene | aw |
| 05:55.51 | Paene | ~api setattribute |
| 05:55.52 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_setattribute |
| 05:57.12 | Nandini | it's just frame:SetMovable(true) |
| 05:57.26 | Nandini | if you created the frame in Lua |
| 05:58.23 | orionshock | same even if you didn't set it up in lua |
| 05:58.23 | Paene | thanks |
| 05:58.27 | Paene | that's what I needed |
| 05:59.31 | Paene | but for some reason my frame won't move :( |
| 05:59.33 | Paene | well |
| 05:59.36 | Paene | it's a button actually |
| 05:59.43 | orionshock | you need to enable mouse on it |
| 05:59.46 | orionshock | and register it for drag |
| 05:59.51 | Nandini | you have to give it handlers to start moving and stop mvoing it |
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| 06:03.12 | Shadowed | bah Tattle needs to move to LibStub |
| 06:05.14 | aestil | in a 2 week period, i have gone from officer, to gkick, to regular member, and now back to officer again. |
| 06:05.20 | aestil | whirlwind romance with my guild. |
| 06:05.30 | aestil | we are gonna start kael this week. bleh. |
| 06:05.33 | Nandini | have you considered a career as a soap opera star? |
| 06:05.44 | aestil | sounds like a good idea. |
| 06:05.57 | Nandini | you covered just about everything except getting the boss's wife pregnant i think |
| 06:06.03 | Shadowed | !seen nymbia |
| 06:06.04 | orionshock | Shadowed: ? |
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| 06:06.24 | orionshock | tattle's not a lib Shadowed ... |
| 06:06.27 | Wobwork | ~seen nymbia |
| 06:06.29 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-141-89.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 6m 42s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 06:06.29 | Shadowed | whatever |
| 06:06.59 | Shadowed | I want the data, but rather not include the extra crap it comes with guess I'll bug nymbia later |
| 06:07.12 | orionshock | lol |
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| 06:07.51 | Nandini | i wanted pitbull health bars that stay stuck at 100%, so i stole them and made my own |
| 06:08.05 | Nandini | and got rid of some of the extra crap |
| 06:08.36 | Nandini | but then found myself adding my own crap, so it's probably worse off than it was before |
| 06:09.24 | Nandini | someday my underground unitframes will see the light of day, and i will take over the world! |
| 06:10.09 | CIA-12 | 03treibh * r51347 10BigBrother/localization_deDE.lua: |
| 06:10.09 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 06:10.09 | CIA-12 | - updated deDE localization (thanks Farook) |
| 06:11.22 | Nandini | but at least i have cool health and mana gauges with several skins! my health looks like a speedometer now! |
| 06:14.08 | Wobwork | where redlining means the exact opposite =P |
| 06:14.25 | orionshock | well it's not like i'd be hard to remove the Ace2ness from Tattle.. |
| 06:14.29 | ZealotOnAStick | we started Illidan tonight, aestil. |
| 06:14.39 | orionshock | just time consuming... |
| 06:14.42 | Nandini | yeah i have a green line at the top, Wobwork :) |
| 06:14.52 | Nandini | always try and keep it in the green! |
| 06:15.17 | Nandini | secure unit button templates was probably not a smart idea to have to learn for my first addon tho |
| 06:15.33 | Wobwork | Nandini: ... YES |
| 06:15.35 | Nandini | i gave up after getting a semi-working player frame |
| 06:15.48 | Wobwork | oh god... worst possible subject to start with =P |
| 06:16.01 | orionshock | fk even i started small.... |
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| 06:16.18 | Nandini | the gauges are very cool tho, my semicircle texture rotates and clips within its parent frame |
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| 06:16.42 | ZealotOnAStick | You dislike yourself that much? |
| 06:16.45 | Nandini | i stole some of that from Recount's graphs, and some of it from Replay's map display |
| 06:17.40 | Nandini | well, my truly FIRST addon just checked the latency every thirty seconds and saved it as a SV so i could go back and analyze it later. LOL |
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| 06:18.59 | Aeyan | Mine turned nameplates on and off |
| 06:19.04 | Paene | argh |
| 06:19.04 | Aeyan | Also my last addon |
| 06:19.08 | Aeyan | Shoot for the stars! |
| 06:19.19 | Paene | what's the command for enableMouse? SetEnableMouse(true)? |
| 06:19.29 | Wobwork | sounds about right |
| 06:19.37 | Paene | threw an error :-/ |
| 06:19.56 | Nandini | you will need :RegisterForDrag("LeftButton") or something like that too |
| 06:19.59 | orionshock | www.wowwiki.com |
| 06:20.05 | orionshock | Paene: it's your friend |
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| 06:20.23 | Paene | I'm lookinh |
| 06:20.27 | Paene | *looking |
| 06:20.31 | orionshock | you'll need to look under the Wiget API |
| 06:20.32 | Paene | it doesn't have the lua stuff |
| 06:20.34 | Nandini | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Frame_Draggable |
| 06:20.35 | Paene | only the xml file stuff |
| 06:20.42 | Nandini | that's the XML version, but the Lua parts still pertain |
| 06:20.53 | orionshock | um... here is the cool part... |
| 06:20.54 | Paene | right |
| 06:21.01 | Kazie | Are there any better combat texts than SCT? |
| 06:21.06 | orionshock | you can transpose a lot of the commands over to lua |
| 06:21.11 | orionshock | Kazie: parrot IMHO |
| 06:21.12 | Paene | is it just Set<variable>? |
| 06:21.19 | Kazie | Is that nice? |
| 06:21.30 | orionshock | Frame:Set<attrib>("") |
| 06:21.31 | Nandini | parrot is pretty nice and has tons of options |
| 06:21.44 | orionshock | Kazie: i like it alot better than SCT |
| 06:21.53 | orionshock | SCT is kina... crude |
| 06:21.59 | Kazie | Nice.. i think i'll try that instead then.. |
| 06:22.01 | Nandini | you can make as many scroll areas as you want, choose what events/spells/etc. shows up in each |
| 06:22.38 | Kazie | Have you guys experience your fortitude buffs being contineously disabled everytime a while after it has been cast? |
| 06:22.39 | Nandini | SCT was only crude until other alternatives became available. |
| 06:23.02 | Nandini | s/until/after/ |
| 06:23.29 | Nandini | i don't have any priests, sorry Kazie |
| 06:23.57 | Kazie | Well.. you do have foritude buff sometimes don't you? :) |
| 06:24.02 | Nandini | do you mean you can't cast the spell again? or that the buff fades prematurely? |
| 06:24.03 | Kazie | fortitude* |
| 06:24.12 | *** part/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@24-236-181-169.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 06:24.39 | Kazie | That the buff disapears while i can see that my party members still have more than 30 min left of Prayer of Fortitude.. |
| 06:24.50 | Nandini | do you have a macro that is maybe cancelling the aura accidentally? or is something dispelling it from you? |
| 06:25.29 | Zhinjio | Can I engage any of y'all in a plugin security discussion? |
| 06:25.48 | orionshock | "Plugin Security"? |
| 06:25.59 | Zhinjio | I'm struggling with an implementation method. |
| 06:26.02 | orionshock | is fubar running national defenses? |
| 06:26.07 | Zhinjio | let me be more specific. |
| 06:26.16 | Kazie | I don't use macros :S |
| 06:26.37 | Zhinjio | Many people have complained that my plugin is useable by anyone, even though the main functions of it should be limited to folks who are raid leaders. |
| 06:26.42 | Nandini | do you have anything near your buff area such that you might accidentally right click on the buff and not realize it? |
| 06:26.47 | Zhinjio | someone else "taking control" and accidentally pushing out updates is a BAD thing |
| 06:27.07 | Kazie | I don't .. that's why i don't understand it... because it is ONLY Prayer of Fortitude.. :s |
| 06:27.08 | Zhinjio | so the question is ... how do you effectively control who has access rights to those functions |
| 06:27.14 | Wobwork | ... that's the DKP addon right? |
| 06:27.31 | Zhinjio | yeah. SuicideKings (my modifications) |
| 06:27.36 | Zhinjio | SKG |
| 06:27.51 | Wobwork | Isn't there a query for raid assist? |
| 06:27.56 | Wobwork | api function |
| 06:27.57 | orionshock | do a IsLeaderOrPermoted() check on all incomming commands |
| 06:27.58 | Zhinjio | yes, I already do that. |
| 06:28.09 | Wobwork | but people are still getting control, eh? |
| 06:28.17 | Wobwork | Strange |
| 06:28.19 | Nandini | yet someone else could emulate your commands? |
| 06:28.24 | Zhinjio | the problem is, ANYONE can make a raid, pull in one person who is an alt on a second account, and push out updates |
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| 06:28.32 | Zhinjio | and bork with everything |
| 06:28.34 | orionshock | ah |
| 06:28.36 | Wobwork | oh |
| 06:28.36 | orionshock | that issue |
| 06:28.42 | Nandini | can you check if they are perhaps a guild officer or leader? |
| 06:28.46 | Zhinjio | right. |
| 06:28.49 | orionshock | ... i take it RaidLeader is a guild rank? |
| 06:28.53 | orionshock | ... do a guild rank check |
| 06:28.55 | Zhinjio | now we're getting to the core of it. |
| 06:28.58 | Wobwork | no... |
| 06:29.00 | Zhinjio | there's a bunch of ways to approach this. |
| 06:29.08 | Zhinjio | I could restrict it to ranks. |
| 06:29.09 | Wobwork | make it so you have to accept an update |
| 06:29.18 | Zhinjio | you *do* have to accept an update |
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| 06:29.25 | Wobwork | so it says "SoAndSo is broadcasting and update: Accept?" |
| 06:29.31 | Zhinjio | but how many times have you just clicked windows out of the way to get rid of them? |
| 06:29.34 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 06:29.40 | Wobwork | hm |
| 06:29.50 | Wobwork | at some point you have to accept human nature =) |
| 06:29.56 | Zhinjio | the ideal would be a hand-selected list of people are the only ones who can push out updates |
| 06:30.00 | Zhinjio | yes, I know *grin* |
| 06:30.12 | Zhinjio | so then the question is: who hand selects them? GL? |
| 06:30.26 | Wobwork | And what determines a valid 'list' of authorised? |
| 06:30.37 | Zhinjio | or should I have the plugin essentially not work until the GL has selected the security system that guild will use? |
| 06:30.40 | Wobwork | can you perhaps tie it to a raidID? |
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| 06:30.59 | Wobwork | have the raidleader of a specific RaidID written into the update code |
| 06:31.02 | Zhinjio | well, yes and no. it has to be able to work with two simultaneous kara raids going on at the same time (2 or more) |
| 06:31.23 | Wobwork | or a list of raid ids and corresponding authorities |
| 06:31.44 | Wobwork | ie, if you're not on the original list, for that raid ID, you can't force an update |
| 06:31.47 | Zhinjio | so assign a list of "accepted updaters" every raid? |
| 06:31.52 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 06:31.57 | Zhinjio | hmm, thats a thought. |
| 06:32.00 | Wobwork | it can be preinserted |
| 06:32.08 | Wobwork | "These are our standard controllers" |
| 06:32.18 | Zhinjio | and who assigns that? the guild leader? |
| 06:32.23 | Wobwork | aye |
| 06:32.26 | Zhinjio | it would have to be. |
| 06:32.28 | Nandini | that seems reasonable, it's not a huge burden |
| 06:32.32 | Wobwork | or whoever 'starts' the raid |
| 06:32.34 | Zhinjio | yeah, I'd agree. |
| 06:33.39 | Zhinjio | I also would like to work more with the current syncing code. Not allow a sync to happen iof the sync code is "older" than the one I've got (for example) |
| 06:33.54 | Zhinjio | syncs codes are serialized. |
| 06:34.01 | Wobwork | synching is a horrible horrible thing =( |
| 06:34.06 | Zhinjio | yeah, it is. |
| 06:34.12 | orionshock | bitche is a better word |
| 06:34.29 | Zhinjio | this is the fundamental problem with maintinging data between a larger number of people. |
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| 06:34.49 | Nandini | i have advocated that when they implement the guild bank, they should implement some server-based data storage to go with it as well |
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| 06:35.13 | Nandini | that addons can use as a repository |
| 06:35.15 | Zhinjio | yeah. I do understand the backend problems of that as well, though. |
| 06:35.52 | Nocts | ~wau2 |
| 06:35.53 | purl | rumour has it, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 06:36.05 | Zhinjio | having worked for... uh, a large online auction company ... I am well aware of how data bloat can affect your costs. |
| 06:36.22 | Zhinjio | it would be nice, though, granted. |
| 06:36.26 | Zhinjio | for the developer community |
| 06:36.30 | Nandini | yeah it would be hard to determine exactly how much space could be allotted |
| 06:36.57 | Nandini | just keeping macros on the server was a big controversy, but since this would be per-guild, it might not have as big an effect |
| 06:36.58 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r51348 10Postman/Postman.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 06:36.58 | CIA-12 | Postman: |
| 06:36.58 | CIA-12 | - Rewrote the mail sending function again (this time making sure to test everything, so you wont get SV breakage) |
| 06:36.59 | CIA-12 | - Now uses item links |
| 06:36.59 | CIA-12 | - Now tracks Item sends, money sends, Item and money sends, and Items sent COD |
| 06:37.02 | CIA-12 | - Will now report items delivered instantly even if others before it are still |
| 06:37.04 | CIA-12 | pending delivery (this took me 4 hours to both figure out why it wasn't always |
| 06:38.06 | Zhinjio | there's quite alot of data I'd earmark for that shared pool (per guild, I mean) |
| 06:38.09 | Zhinjio | holy crap. |
| 06:38.29 | Zhinjio | guild professions listings, guild banks, reputations |
| 06:38.31 | Zhinjio | skills |
| 06:38.37 | Zhinjio | who can make what |
| 06:38.52 | Zhinjio | who needs/wants iteems and who has what items. |
| 06:39.03 | orionshock | .... in game guild forum.... |
| 06:39.07 | Zhinjio | there's a dozen addons that would replace. |
| 06:39.08 | orionshock | >.> why the hell not |
| 06:39.13 | Zhinjio | yeah, no kidding. |
| 06:39.34 | Zhinjio | raid loot tables -> who received what items, etc. |
| 06:39.43 | Nandini | i was thinking when blizzard implements the guild banks, they could allow guilds to buy data storage space instead of bag slots |
| 06:39.50 | Ozguli` | wouldn't that make the game unneccessarily heavy? |
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| 06:40.05 | orionshock | dude... exept for guild banks and guild wide professions... the rest of that crap needs to go on a website... |
| 06:40.14 | Zhinjio | yeah, feh. |
| 06:40.25 | Nandini | a calendar would not be bad to have in-game |
| 06:40.26 | Zhinjio | but it would be cool if that wasn't needed. |
| 06:40.34 | Zhinjio | (being a maintainer of guild websites) |
| 06:40.41 | Zhinjio | event calendar. yeah |
| 06:40.56 | Zhinjio | I'm so sick of shitty implementation of raid signups and such |
| 06:40.58 | orionshock | Event calender i can see |
| 06:41.26 | Zhinjio | *drool* |
| 06:41.27 | Nandini | imagine how much data is stored for one bank bag slot and all the items that bank bag could contain |
| 06:41.42 | Nandini | would you trade that for a similar amount of data storage? |
| 06:42.10 | Zhinjio | actually, if it *was* data storage that addons could access? I would trade the bank storage itself. |
| 06:42.16 | orionshock | Nandini: ... all that it could contain... no, just the item link |
| 06:42.18 | Zhinjio | you could write your own banks mods. |
| 06:42.29 | Nandini | it could contain up to 32 item links in the bag |
| 06:42.47 | orionshock | 32? what bags are you using? |
| 06:42.56 | Nandini | foror's bag of endless resist gear storage |
| 06:42.56 | Zhinjio | PTR bags *grin* |
| 06:43.17 | Zhinjio | those are awesome. |
| 06:43.26 | Zhinjio | I nearly shat myself when I logged onto the ptr the first time. |
| 06:43.34 | Nandini | that's enough for 32 day-and-hour based events and a tiny description |
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| 06:44.25 | Nandini | in fact, you could probably even make an addon that determines calander events based on AN ACTUAL ITEM an authorized member has placed in a bank bag slot :) |
| 06:44.45 | Zhinjio | I think I'm going to go with the GL having to manage the security. |
| 06:44.54 | Zhinjio | and the addon is essentially read only to everyone else. |
| 06:45.10 | Nandini | i think that's reasonable, zhinjio |
| 06:45.29 | orionshock | could have the sync requests be done to the GL , and then from there dissipated out |
| 06:45.55 | Zhinjio | hmm. no... the GL may be raiding in the raid itself on a non-GL toon. |
| 06:46.06 | Zhinjio | updates do need to be realtime, but only from "authorized" senders. |
| 06:46.20 | Nandini | he would have to designate his other toon as a sender |
| 06:46.28 | orionshock | let it happen as is, then after the raid is over, log in to th GL toon, push the sync request, authorize it and then reDistribute. |
| 06:46.29 | Nandini | which is still reasonable i think |
| 06:46.36 | Zhinjio | and if your'e doing that, you might as well just auth the raid leader/ML |
| 06:46.38 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 06:46.59 | Zhinjio | I also would ultimately like to convert this over to Ace based code. |
| 06:47.08 | Zhinjio | but its skeerey |
| 06:47.27 | Nandini | the raid is pretty much screwed though if for some horrible reason no authorized person is able to show up, yet they manage to replace him and do the raid anyway |
| 06:47.43 | Zhinjio | Nandini: yeah, thats right. |
| 06:47.49 | Zhinjio | you need to have backups |
| 06:48.03 | Nandini | that would be important to emphasize in the documentation |
| 06:48.19 | Zhinjio | we have ... I think 4 people who are currently authorized to send updates in guild. no, 5 now. |
| 06:48.23 | Zhinjio | so yeah, backups. |
| 06:48.30 | orionshock | or have a manual input method |
| 06:48.58 | Nandini | unless you continue to allow everyone to collect data and allow the GL to authorize someone after the fact and initiate a sync |
| 06:49.01 | Zhinjio | the idea of "queueing" updated data is also pretty darn frightening. |
| 06:49.38 | Nandini | but then lots of people have lots of usually useless data |
| 06:50.18 | Zhinjio | thats inspiring another thought. |
| 06:50.23 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 06:50.54 | Nandini | perhaps the authorized people could be authorized "approvers" who by default approve their own syncs |
| 06:51.02 | Zhinjio | updates generally consist of pushes of the full lists of people, instead of 'events' or changes to the lists (person X dropped to the bottom) |
| 06:51.13 | Nandini | but are prompted to approve syncs initiated by non-authorized users |
| 06:51.21 | orionshock | your makin this compricated |
| 06:51.51 | orionshock | set it to where anyone can record an event, then all syncs are FIRST sent to the GL then distributed to the guild |
| 06:52.27 | Nandini | people want realtime distribution when it is allowable, though |
| 06:52.34 | orionshock | fk them |
| 06:52.49 | Zhinjio | yeah, on raid nights ... its pretty much required. But what yoiu're suggesting doesn't violate that. |
| 06:53.00 | Zhinjio | a "sync" could consist of a full nights worth of updated events. |
| 06:53.13 | Zhinjio | instead of 10 pushes of full lists. |
| 06:53.18 | CIA-12 | 03fin * r51349 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Removed cwowaddon.co m from Prat.coc - yeah CWDG, you do some translating but, a chinese mod site's homepage? Seriously? No, really? I didn't think so. |
| 06:53.23 | orionshock | besides it's standard practice to do the math for a DKP system after the raid and with in a day or so the new stats to be posted |
| 06:53.25 | Nandini | that would be more efficient, as well |
| 06:53.48 | Zhinjio | well, thats kind of one nice thing about SK is that there really is no "math" involved. |
| 06:53.54 | Zhinjio | no costs or values |
| 06:54.12 | Zhinjio | your position in the list is the only thing that determines who wins |
| 06:54.32 | Zhinjio | the longer you hold out on rolling for loot, the higher you rise in the list |
| 06:54.33 | Nandini | lol Fin, that has been in there forever |
| 06:54.49 | Fin | wish someone had mentioned it |
| 06:55.01 | Fin | don't normally have much occasion to look at the .toc myself |
| 06:55.19 | Nandini | i assumed they assisted in writing the actual code or one of the modules |
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| 06:55.36 | Fin | pff |
| 06:55.37 | Fin | jokers |
| 06:55.39 | Nocts | So, for a DPS recorder. Violation, Assessment, Recap, Recount |
| 06:55.43 | Nocts | Recommendations? |
| 06:55.50 | winkiller | recount is nice, but WWS beats it |
| 06:55.51 | Wobwork | I like recount |
| 06:55.56 | Fin | bloody Chinese, they don't do much to improve their reputation |
| 06:55.58 | Nandini | i like recount for my own personal use |
| 06:56.10 | orionshock | i still use good old fasion DamageMeters-AL |
| 06:56.11 | Nocts | wws looks identical, to assessment |
| 06:56.13 | winkiller | yep, Recount for live, WWS for analysis of slackers |
| 06:56.30 | Nandini | WWS pretty much can't be beat for after-the-fact analysis |
| 06:56.36 | Nocts | And I think synching is a wastem if that's what recount does. |
| 06:56.45 | Nocts | 200 yards really makes it pointless to sync data |
| 06:57.05 | orionshock | back in the day - it was needed.. but now not so much |
| 06:57.06 | Nandini | it adds in some pet data that is hard to reliably monitor |
| 06:57.18 | Nandini | but that may be improved now too |
| 06:57.48 | Marli | SWS :) |
| 06:57.54 | Nandini | unless you want to know exactly whose shadowfiend returned the most mana to whom |
| 06:58.08 | Nocts | lol |
| 06:58.26 | Nandini | but really, who cares? :) |
| 06:58.39 | theoddone33 | our pally tank started using seal of blood |
| 06:58.45 | theoddone33 | I think that's probably a bad thing |
| 06:59.00 | Nandini | recount accepts and displays syncs from WWS i think, but does not send to it |
| 06:59.01 | Nocts | LOL |
| 06:59.14 | Nocts | Nandini: Again, I don't see the need for even a raid to sync |
| 06:59.40 | Nandini | neither do i, personally |
| 06:59.55 | Nandini | i was just saying it would save you some upstream bandwidth |
| 06:59.57 | orionshock | reason you sync is that combat evnets don't fire evenly for everyone |
| 07:00.10 | Zhinjio | ok, now for the dumb question: how do I create a new branch to work from on this? |
| 07:00.13 | orionshock | like threat in a way , only you know how much damage your outputing |
| 07:00.17 | Nocts | I don't see how that's possible, really. |
| 07:00.27 | Nocts | As long as your connection can handle the incoming packets, what's missing? |
| 07:01.01 | Marli | I think its pretty obvious in practice |
| 07:01.26 | Marli | Can sit here and theory about it all day but practice shows orionshock is right |
| 07:01.34 | orionshock | :D |
| 07:01.40 | Marli | (this time) |
| 07:01.40 | Nocts | Well, I'm not looking for practice I'm looking for protocol. |
| 07:01.50 | orionshock | lol |
| 07:01.54 | Nocts | Any emperical evidence? |
| 07:02.16 | orionshock | emperical evidence....? |
| 07:02.25 | orionshock | that would take quite a bit of effort to do |
| 07:02.27 | Nandini | Zhinjio, i've only ever worked in trunk before |
| 07:02.34 | evl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_622w_ttiU |
| 07:02.37 | evl | New toyota commercial |
| 07:02.39 | Nocts | Well, that's what matters really. |
| 07:02.51 | Nocts | Empirical testing, versus hypothesis. |
| 07:02.52 | orionshock | Zhinjio: you using tortis svn? |
| 07:02.56 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 07:03.08 | orionshock | one sec then |
| 07:03.11 | Zhinjio | kk |
| 07:03.26 | Zhinjio | I got to the "Branch/Tag" menu, but I'm not sure what to put in the target field. |
| 07:03.33 | orionshock | right click branch/tag |
| 07:03.56 | Zhinjio | is http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branch/SKG a valid path? |
| 07:03.59 | orionshock | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/<addonName>/<Author>/<AddonName> |
| 07:04.00 | Zhinjio | it doesn't exist yet |
| 07:04.08 | Zhinjio | branches... ok |
| 07:04.09 | orionshock | is the classic format |
| 07:04.22 | orionshock | and you'll need to create the first 2 folders |
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| 07:05.13 | orionshock | good luck |
| 07:05.15 | evl | "There are no trucks in World of Warcraft" |
| 07:05.36 | Nandini | people were yelling that all over the place yesterday, it was so annoying |
| 07:05.45 | Nandini | worse than chuck norris in the barrens |
| 07:05.58 | orionshock | ya so stfu :P |
| 07:06.16 | CIA-12 | 03zhinjio * r51350 10/branches/SuicideKingsGeo-Secure/: |
| 07:06.16 | CIA-12 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 07:06.16 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.23 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 07:06.26 | Zhinjio | that didn't take long. |
| 07:06.30 | orionshock | uh... |
| 07:06.35 | evl | Still pretty crazy that Toyota runs TV ads from WoW |
| 07:06.36 | orionshock | dude.. just SKG/ |
| 07:06.49 | Nandini | i did like however the little reference to WoW in SG:Atlantis on friday |
| 07:07.05 | Nandini | "It's just like Elwynn Forest." |
| 07:07.27 | Wobwork | context? |
| 07:07.35 | evl | What scares me about WoW is that people keep coming back :P |
| 07:07.41 | evl | I've got a friend on his third rebound now |
| 07:07.49 | theoddone33 | no trucks in WoW? |
| 07:07.51 | theoddone33 | what's that from |
| 07:08.45 | Wobwork | theoddone33: the ad |
| 07:08.51 | Wobwork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_622w_ttiU |
| 07:09.04 | Nandini | Wobwork: Carter and Dr. Lee step through the stargate on a world in the pegasus galaxy and he exclaims how beautiful it is |
| 07:09.27 | Nandini | Carter suggests he take a picture, since they won't be there long, and he gets beamed up right before he snaps the shot |
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| 07:10.43 | theoddone33 | that guy just owned nefarian |
| 07:10.44 | Wobwork | Damn |
| 07:10.49 | Wobwork | SS or it didn't happen =( |
| 07:10.53 | theoddone33 | but I don't understand what he was doing outdoor |
| 07:10.54 | theoddone33 | s |
| 07:10.56 | Wobwork | Re: Dr Lee |
| 07:11.08 | Wobwork | theoddone33: breath of air? |
| 07:11.14 | ZealotOnAStick | It was an amusing ad, though. |
| 07:11.26 | ZealotOnAStick | I equip, uh, FOUR WHEELS OF FURY! |
| 07:11.26 | Nandini | "Dr. Lee makes another reference to playing the Massively Multiplayer Online Game World of Warcraft. He notes that the planet he is on resembles the Elwynn Forest, which is a zone that can be accessed in the game." |
| 07:11.29 | Zhinjio | out of curiosity, and not intending to rile up anything inflammatory: how is AceGUI? |
| 07:11.33 | Zhinjio | I've not used it |
| 07:11.42 | ZealotOnAStick | more or less it isn't anymore. |
| 07:11.44 | Zhinjio | (I'm completely comfortable working in the XML directly) |
| 07:11.49 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 07:11.52 | Wobwork | I don't think it got too far off the ground |
| 07:11.55 | evl | ZealotOnAStick: they are actually airing it on tv :P |
| 07:12.00 | Nandini | i'm not sure anyone ever used AceGUI |
| 07:12.08 | Zhinjio | are there any tools that do that well? |
| 07:12.12 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51351 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 07:12.12 | CIA-12 | Automaton: |
| 07:12.12 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 07:12.13 | Zhinjio | or should I stick to the XML? |
| 07:12.21 | Wobwork | Zhinjio: in all honesty, the lua api calls are more understandable to me than xml |
| 07:12.27 | Zhinjio | heh. |
| 07:12.45 | Nandini | you have to mix Lua script into the XML anyway to get it to do what you want, so why not just do it all in Lua? |
| 07:12.58 | Wobwork | But then, I conceive of things at an object level, then move them into place |
| 07:13.02 | Zhinjio | I"m sort of old school. having written god knows how many povray files from scratch... XML is cake. |
| 07:13.05 | Wobwork | rather than an overall concept |
| 07:13.13 | Wobwork | oh god, povray... that brings back memories =P |
| 07:13.17 | Zhinjio | heheheee |
| 07:13.37 | Wobwork | With the quintessential "Mirrored Sphere on Chessboard" picture |
| 07:13.43 | Zhinjio | indeed. |
| 07:14.01 | Wobwork | anyway, off home |
| 07:14.15 | Nandini | happy commuting |
| 07:16.53 | Nandini | i find it suspicious that the players in that commercial are using the in-game voice chat and yet wow is not crashing for them :P |
| 07:17.12 | Nandini | i just now noticed that the voice icons are on their unit frames |
| 07:19.18 | ramoz | so |
| 07:19.29 | ramoz | the ingame voicechat crashes? |
| 07:19.36 | ramoz | its not yet been enabled on my sever |
| 07:19.43 | Zhinjio | hrm, didn't blizz just release some UI thinger? |
| 07:19.57 | Nandini | they have a couple of UI tools |
| 07:20.08 | Nandini | one is a frame inspector kind of thing |
| 07:20.28 | Nandini | the other one just extracts the interface code and textures for you to look at for examples |
| 07:20.39 | Zhinjio | k |
| 07:21.16 | Nandini | one of the addon sites has a UI designer kind of thing that makes XML files, i've never tried it tho |
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| 07:23.36 | Nandini | it's too bad that saved letters from the mailbox are soulbound now |
| 07:23.44 | Nandini | that would be a PERFECT thing to put in the build bank |
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| 07:23.55 | Nandini | and use as a source for a data repository |
| 07:23.58 | Pufu | Hi again |
| 07:24.16 | Nandini | assuming they are ever able to implement the guild bank |
| 07:25.31 | Nandini | hi Pufu |
| 07:26.43 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51352 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: |
| 07:26.44 | CIA-12 | LibRockComm-1.0 : |
| 07:26.44 | CIA-12 | - Added localization koKR |
| 07:27.58 | Pufu | Hoi Nandini. |
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| 07:29.41 | Pufu | Argh. I can't wait until Recount is updated =) |
| 07:29.59 | Nandini | i have the horrible urge to create a char on every realm now called Fourwheelsoffury |
| 07:30.16 | Pufu | Oh? Why's that? |
| 07:30.37 | Nandini | as much as i hate that commercial, it is addictive |
| 07:30.56 | Pufu | Eh? Which advertisement? |
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| 07:31.05 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 07:31.19 | theoddone33 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_622w_ttiU |
| 07:31.23 | theoddone33 | I learned about it 20 minutes ago |
| 07:31.30 | Nandini | purl, fwof is a commercial for the Toyota Tacoma at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_622w_ttiU |
| 07:31.31 | purl | Nandini: okay |
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| 07:31.59 | Pufu | It's real? *_* |
| 07:32.10 | Nandini | it has been seen on TV, apparently |
| 07:32.35 | Nandini | people were yelling "Four wheels of fury!" and "I am the lawgivah!" all day today. |
| 07:32.58 | Nandini | simply brilliant marketing |
| 07:33.13 | evl | Well they reach out to 9 milllion players |
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| 07:33.17 | evl | In no time |
| 07:33.23 | evl | Pretty amazing viral yeah :) |
| 07:33.46 | Nandini | yup, and every time someone hears that for the next 6 months, people will chuckle and think Toyota Tacoma |
| 07:34.23 | theoddone33 | or "what's that from?" |
| 07:34.28 | Nandini | i wonder how many posts there are in the suggestions forum to implement toyota tacomas in the next patch |
| 07:34.29 | theoddone33 | one of the two |
| 07:34.34 | Pufu | The WoW references in TV are crazy. |
| 07:34.40 | Marli | But they wont -sell- the things |
| 07:34.51 | Nandini | i'll stick with my dodge ram, thanks |
| 07:34.57 | Nandini | i can't afford another truck. lol |
| 07:34.58 | Pufu | Like SG:A the other night... "This looks just like Elwynn Forest!" |
| 07:35.07 | Marli | Theres a step between saying it, and wanting to buy a truck BECAUSE it was in a wow commercial |
| 07:35.11 | Nandini | yup i was just mentioning that to Wob earlier |
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| 07:35.33 | Nandini | Dr. Lee is my hero. |
| 07:35.37 | evl | Marli: think about the hundreds of thousands of kids that will be showing it to their dads/moms |
| 07:35.41 | Pufu | Ya. hehe |
| 07:35.44 | evl | That's where the clever marketing comes in |
| 07:36.04 | Pufu | zzz time =0 |
| 07:36.05 | Nandini | "Technically, this isn't re-entry because we never left from here." |
| 07:36.36 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 07:36.40 | theoddone33 | I wouldn't show my parents |
| 07:36.44 | theoddone33 | then again I'm 27 |
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| 07:36.57 | theoddone33 | but they just wouldn't understand it |
| 07:37.08 | Nandini | if my mom discovered wow, she would play it at least 20 hours a day i think |
| 07:37.20 | theoddone33 | I'm not sure what my mother would do |
| 07:37.35 | Nandini | she would probably be a GL in a huge raiding guild |
| 07:37.44 | Tem|Sleep | psh |
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| 07:37.48 | Tem|Sleep | there are no girld on the internet |
| 07:37.53 | Marli | . |
| 07:38.08 | Marli | my gl was a woman |
| 07:38.13 | Marli | she was shit at her class :) |
| 07:38.32 | Bibi | knowing the WoW male players, I would find very disturbing to see my mother playing WoW. |
| 07:38.32 | Nandini | I had a husband and wife GL team in a guild once, it was not pleasant. |
| 07:38.33 | theoddone33 | lots of people are |
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| 07:38.53 | theoddone33 | yeah I think my mom would enjoy it until she had to interact with people |
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| 07:39.08 | Nandini | my mom would really get into the interaction |
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| 07:39.34 | Nandini | that's what annoyed me growing up, she organized just about every school event and stuff like that |
| 07:39.51 | Nandini | then again, she worked at my school, which is bad enough |
| 07:40.03 | Nandini | when i got in trouble, i didn't get sent to the prinicpal's office, i got sent to my mother's office |
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| 07:41.41 | Nandini | and when i was in college, she got hired to teach a couple of evening classes in accounting, so i STILL saw her 2 days a week |
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| 07:42.23 | Nandini | that was only for one semester though until they found a real professor to pick up the classes |
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| 07:44.57 | theoddone33 | I love leveling mage |
| 07:45.02 | theoddone33 | it's almost rewarding |
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| 07:54.19 | CIA-12 | nQuestLog: |
| 07:54.19 | CIA-12 | - Adjusted minion text positioning for better highlighting and better positioning from bottom minion edge |
| 07:54.19 | CIA-12 | - Added font outline option for minion |
| 07:54.19 | CIA-12 | - Minion can no longer be moved off the screen |
| 07:54.19 | CIA-12 | - Added MobMap integration and menu options for mob Tooltips |
| 07:54.21 | CIA-12 | - Added the ability to disable mob tooltip processing while raiding |
| 07:55.00 | winkiller | lol Nandini |
| 07:55.14 | winkiller | my mother has played solitaire twice in her life |
| 07:55.20 | winkiller | that's about it with "videogames" |
| 07:55.35 | winkiller | oh, and the few SNES matches I could persuade her to 10 years ago |
| 07:55.43 | Adys | is it possible to use a modifier key in a castsequence macro? |
| 07:56.13 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:56.14 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:56.17 | Adys | thats my current one |
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| 08:01.28 | winkiller | wtf |
| 08:01.40 | winkiller | that's just weird, Adys :P |
| 08:01.48 | Adys | i got it working |
| 08:01.53 | Adys | drain soul at the start |
| 08:01.58 | winkiller | from a gameplay PoV |
| 08:02.25 | winkiller | I mean.. I know, that's also largely my dps cycle as Affli, but still... |
| 08:02.33 | winkiller | 1 button? come on |
| 08:02.38 | ramoz | you dont use siphon life? |
| 08:02.54 | Adys | i dont have it yet :p |
| 08:02.56 | winkiller | ah yeah, been too long I was affli idd |
| 08:03.00 | Adys | still lvling |
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| 08:03.04 | ramoz | oh |
| 08:03.18 | ramoz | think i have to respec affliction some day |
| 08:03.25 | winkiller | that one wouldnt work in a raid I think |
| 08:03.41 | winkiller | CoA and Corr and Immo need to be refreshed instantly |
| 08:03.44 | ramoz | winkiller: no it wouldn't since coa, corr and immolate has different timers |
| 08:03.56 | Wobin | omgomgomg |
| 08:04.12 | Wobin | from the director of PBCBSF2006: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3egC9LzrCwY |
| 08:04.16 | Wobin | I can't wait =) |
| 08:04.16 | winkiller | I could never use a caster as my raiding main |
| 08:04.27 | winkiller | did kara yesterday with my lock alt -omg, so boring |
| 08:04.28 | ramoz | why not? |
| 08:04.35 | ramoz | and melee is less boring? |
| 08:04.40 | ramoz | it all boils down to spamming keys |
| 08:04.43 | winkiller | I am badly equipped and because of the shadowpriest I was #1 |
| 08:04.57 | winkiller | no moving, no real reactio |
| 08:05.05 | winkiller | just dot, dot, SB, LifeTap |
| 08:05.30 | winkiller | Gruul on the Rogue and still beating Hunters, that's fun |
| 08:06.11 | ramoz | you should try archimode as a caster |
| 08:06.15 | cryogen | morning |
| 08:07.21 | winkiller | sorry, we had gruul firstdown last night |
| 08:07.28 | winkiller | Archimonde will be some months :P |
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| 08:08.36 | ramoz | oh, ok |
| 08:08.36 | ramoz | well |
| 08:08.52 | ramoz | lotsa movement for ranged, melee cant move much |
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| 08:13.55 | Zhinjio | ok, once again, something dumb I can't find. Is there an "enabled='true'" attribute for UI elements? (bbuttons, dropdowns, etc)? |
| 08:14.09 | Zhinjio | I want to be able to "grey out" ui elements. |
| 08:14.20 | Zhinjio | or is that just a texture? that would be lame. |
| 08:15.14 | Nargiddley | :Enable() and :Disable() if they are setup properly |
| 08:15.31 | Zhinjio | I'll give it a try. |
| 08:15.52 | Nargiddley | if its not a bliz template button you might have to do some of it manually |
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| 08:20.06 | cncfanatics | Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT. ? lol |
| 08:20.50 | Health | Or perhaps not |
| 08:20.59 | [Ammo] | euh? |
| 08:22.44 | cryogen | cncfanatics: people were rabbiting on about sex the other day :) |
| 08:23.09 | cncfanatics | so ? |
| 08:23.18 | [Ammo] | just be glad the discussion didn't degenerate into a pack of gay gorilla's ripping you a new one |
| 08:23.20 | cryogen | so it doesnt belond in here :) |
| 08:23.24 | cryogen | belong* |
| 08:23.27 | [Ammo] | it happens |
| 08:23.41 | cncfanatics | anyway, cryogen, did u get ur svn acc ? |
| 08:23.44 | cryogen | ofc not |
| 08:23.45 | mikma | [Ammo]: go play |
| 08:23.54 | cryogen | Kaelten hates me |
| 08:23.56 | [Ammo] | mikma: I dont need to play anymore (well almost) |
| 08:24.05 | [Ammo] | mikma: 2 kara runs -> 10 pieces of kara lewt |
| 08:24.18 | cryogen | [Ammo]: cammo is not you, right? its the dude that stole one of your names? |
| 08:24.20 | mikma | [Ammo]: but your druid needs to be played. druids like when people play with them |
| 08:24.22 | cncfanatics | cryogen, coded target buff support yet btw ? |
| 08:24.28 | [Ammo] | euhm |
| 08:24.31 | [Ammo] | cammo? noaah |
| 08:24.32 | cryogen | cncfanatics: nope, will probably dry code it at work |
| 08:24.37 | [Ammo] | doesn't ring a bell |
| 08:24.42 | [Ammo] | mikma: I did do the guide |
| 08:24.43 | mikma | [Ammo]: ps. 12_17_Darkshore done, i just want someone other to test it :) |
| 08:24.48 | [Ammo] | but it took me 2 hours is the fricking CAVE OF DEWN |
| 08:24.50 | [Ammo] | DEW<M |
| 08:25.02 | mikma | you mean the mushroom cave? |
| 08:25.02 | [Ammo] | due to the voodoo thing not dropping |
| 08:25.08 | mikma | oooh |
| 08:25.08 | [Ammo] | no the one in teldrassil |
| 08:25.16 | mikma | the the.. fucking cave. |
| 08:25.19 | [Ammo] | I killed (according to the deathcount) 85 shamans |
| 08:25.20 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i also found a bug :/ |
| 08:25.22 | [Ammo] | I made 2 fricking levels |
| 08:25.23 | mikma | i... hate... that cave |
| 08:25.28 | cncfanatics | cryogen, in fb or ur module ? |
| 08:25.29 | winkiller | is it only me that finds lua bit strange, btw? |
| 08:25.34 | cryogen | my module |
| 08:25.38 | mikma | it took me 2 hours too and 1 level+ to do all the shit in there |
| 08:25.43 | shieldb | that sounds like skull rock on hordeside for some folks |
| 08:25.44 | [Ammo] | mikma: but I am level 11 now |
| 08:25.52 | cncfanatics | cryogen, what bug ? :o |
| 08:25.56 | [Ammo] | mikma: so almost ready for next step in the guide |
| 08:26.00 | shieldb | only it was farming for just one stupid insignia for a quest, not a series of quests |
| 08:26.05 | cryogen | if you have other buffs on you, the action_changed handles messes up the timers for your buffs |
| 08:26.08 | [Ammo] | altrhough tourguide is a piece of shit that doesn't enable for me |
| 08:26.11 | cryogen | handler* |
| 08:26.16 | mikma | [Ammoo]: oh nice. well, like i said, the 12_17_Darkshore is done and i did play it through. also i'm currently playing 17_18_LochModan |
| 08:26.17 | Fisker-- | btw i r 1337 |
| 08:26.20 | [Ammo] | have to EnableAddOn("TourGuide"); ReloadUI(); |
| 08:26.30 | Fisker-- | i might have found a way to deliver 12 kegs with the brewfest :O |
| 08:26.32 | cncfanatics | cryogen, it does ? :o |
| 08:26.34 | cryogen | ya |
| 08:26.39 | cryogen | not sure why atm, but will look later |
| 08:26.40 | mikma | [Ammo]: you have a brother in here, [Ammoo] |
| 08:26.46 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I know why I think |
| 08:26.47 | [Ammo] | correct |
| 08:26.49 | [Ammo] | that's me as well |
| 08:26.55 | [Ammo] | on another shell server :) |
| 08:27.03 | cncfanatics | cryogen, ActionChanged triggers as soon as an action changes on any button, are u controlling its for the current button the action changed ? |
| 08:27.08 | Zhinjio | enabled="false" and :Disable :Enable worked great. thanks. |
| 08:27.25 | cncfanatics | cryogen, the 5th argument passed with ActionChanged is the button that changed |
| 08:27.25 | winkiller | Fisker-: how? |
| 08:27.28 | Nargiddley | Fisker-, i've been maybe 1 second off 12 for a good run |
| 08:27.33 | cryogen | cncfanatics: it should recheck every button atm |
| 08:27.37 | mikma | superman ircs with two computer |
| 08:27.39 | winkiller | Fisker-: I always end up lagging and failing #11 by 4sec usually |
| 08:27.41 | cncfanatics | cryogen, even then, why is it incorrect ? |
| 08:27.53 | Nargiddley | dismounted coming in to deliver the 12th >< |
| 08:28.04 | winkiller | what route? |
| 08:28.08 | winkiller | what apple thingies? |
| 08:28.14 | Thezilch | Just the middle two. |
| 08:28.44 | mikma | [Ammo]: you know linux/osx and ability to mount windows folders with samba? i did a neat trick last night |
| 08:29.11 | winkiller | I made my time better by using the one at the guy and the far one |
| 08:29.23 | [Ammo] | mikma: I know |
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| 08:29.29 | winkiller | but for me I basically have to touch the handin guy to hand in the keg |
| 08:29.32 | [Ammo] | mikma: you familiar with smbnbfw? :) |
| 08:29.37 | cryogen | anyone know where gvim looks for your vimrc in windows? |
| 08:29.40 | winkiller | maybe with better connection I could turn earlier |
| 08:29.50 | winkiller | pffft |
| 08:29.56 | [Ammo] | mikma: that was developped by a couple of friends of mine, for our use on campus :p |
| 08:30.07 | Nargiddley | i'm on a pretty crap connection and don't have trouble turning in |
| 08:30.12 | winkiller | cryogen: $VIM says google |
| 08:30.17 | mikma | [Ammo]: http://wow.reaktio.net/mount.txt .. so basicly i just shared Interface\AddOns and WTF\Account, mounted them in osx and did ln -s /Volumes/AddOns AddOns and ln -s /Volumes/Account Account |
| 08:30.27 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 08:30.28 | winkiller | $VIM/gvimrc even |
| 08:30.30 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:30.33 | pakoz | http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3222/rawrrc9.jpg |
| 08:30.38 | mikma | 1 ui, 1 settings, 2 computers :D |
| 08:30.40 | cryogen | gvimrc? hmm ok |
| 08:30.58 | winkiller | 4535 ap? wtf |
| 08:31.15 | mikma | first i tried sharing the whole WTF but then i realized that Config.wtf has GFX/other config in it. so my poor mac tried to use supergood gfx from pc hehe |
| 08:31.23 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I do wonder why that event is messed up ur numbers if ur just rechecking them all -.- |
| 08:31.31 | mikma | [Ammo]: and no, not familiar. will have a look now |
| 08:31.35 | Fisker-- | hoho winkiller |
| 08:31.36 | cryogen | cncfanatics: its a similar issue to before i think |
| 08:31.40 | Fisker-- | my router makes it easy to get 11 |
| 08:31.45 | Fisker-- | i got 11 even though i had fatigue |
| 08:31.47 | [Ammo] | mikma: samba forwarding |
| 08:31.50 | cryogen | cncfanatics: Aura and UnitBuff returning different indexs |
| 08:31.56 | [Ammo] | say you have a bigass samba network |
| 08:31.58 | Fisker-- | i'm almost certain i'll be able to push out 12 kegs |
| 08:32.02 | [Ammo] | and you have your personal pc with a backend |
| 08:32.08 | [Ammo] | then you can share your backend as well |
| 08:32.19 | [Ammo] | campus only allowed one PC per room on the internet |
| 08:32.25 | cryogen | that sounds incredibly evil |
| 08:32.27 | [Ammo] | so we developped something to share backends over samba :) |
| 08:32.28 | cryogen | samba is bad enough as it is |
| 08:32.35 | [Ammo] | it's in the official distro shrug |
| 08:32.40 | [Ammo] | it works fine |
| 08:32.47 | mikma | http://nbfw.sourceforge.net/installation.html ? |
| 08:32.50 | [Ammo] | we even made it work with 2 frontends sharing the same backend |
| 08:32.50 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:33.07 | [Ammo] | yup still says Eli Jasper Lukas :) |
| 08:33.09 | winkiller | Fisker-: not sure I could, I have to make SURE I get the apple buff, so I have to spend 1-2 extra sec on each |
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| 08:41.24 | cncfanatics | cryogen, if u drycode anything i'll be happy to test it btw |
| 08:41.40 | cryogen | kk |
| 08:41.47 | cryogen | just trying to set vim up to my liking at work :) |
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| 08:42.58 | cryogen | there we go, ron ftw |
| 08:43.09 | winkiller | ron? |
| 08:43.24 | cryogen | ya |
| 08:43.30 | cryogen | :colorscheme ron |
| 08:44.45 | cncfanatics | :colorscheme inkpot |
| 08:44.47 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 08:45.25 | Adys | winkiller: is it possible to check for a buff on self within a macro and cast another spell if its on ? :p |
| 08:45.30 | Adys | need more 1-buttoners |
| 08:45.34 | winkiller | uhm, no clue |
| 08:45.35 | cncfanatics | Adys, no |
| 08:45.39 | baer_ | is there some way to change the chosen "theme" of a subgroup in pitbull? |
| 08:45.48 | winkiller | my most sophisticated macro would be to swap in charm at swift fligt |
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| 08:45.55 | winkiller | all others are "/target arcane flare" |
| 08:46.01 | Adys | cncfanatics: even with an addon? |
| 08:46.07 | Adys | I mean |
| 08:46.14 | winkiller | and #showtooltip - /startattack /cast :P |
| 08:46.27 | Adys | is it a space problem or is it just not possible |
| 08:46.30 | cncfanatics | Adys, do you realize that addons can't touch ur macro's / spells in combat ? |
| 08:46.41 | cncfanatics | its not possible, except out of combat with an addon, which is a bit pointless |
| 08:46.51 | Adys | hm |
| 08:47.47 | Adys | cncfanatics: i suppose its not possible to check for debuffs on target either then |
| 08:48.17 | cncfanatics | Adys, u can check for debuffs, but u can't check the spell u cast if ur in combat :) |
| 08:48.27 | Wobin | how many more days for brewfest? |
| 08:48.51 | Adys | cncfanatics: the macro im trying to make is basically "if shadow trace is up, then cast shadowbolt, else castsequence" |
| 08:49.19 | cncfanatics | Adys, thats exactly the type of macro's that blizz blocked |
| 08:49.38 | cncfanatics | s/blocked/wanted to block/ |
| 08:49.38 | Adys | okies |
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| 08:49.53 | cryogen | macros, nor addons, can make decisions for you anymore |
| 08:49.56 | qwesto | Wobin: until 16 october |
| 08:50.01 | Adys | warlocks having it too easymode? :p |
| 08:50.04 | cryogen | they can give you the information to make the decision but not make it for you |
| 08:50.05 | Adys | hehe |
| 08:50.11 | Adys | yah can see why |
| 08:50.24 | cryogen | you used to get people writing 1 button macros for classes |
| 08:50.29 | cryogen | 1 button tank was fun |
| 08:50.35 | Adys | last thing, is it possible to have two resets on a castsequence? |
| 08:50.39 | cryogen | 1 button healer etc :p |
| 08:50.43 | Adys | like reset=combat reset=alt |
| 08:51.07 | winkiller | Wobin: 16. was said some time ago |
| 08:51.08 | cryogen | cant you do reset=combat,alt ? |
| 08:51.14 | Adys | um |
| 08:51.16 | Adys | sec |
| 08:51.42 | qwesto | reset=combat/alt is the correct syntax if I'm not mistaken ^^ |
| 08:51.56 | qwesto | reset=combat/modifier:alt even |
| 08:52.19 | cryogen | cncfanatics: can you commit http://pkl.net/~stu/whitespace.diff for me? :) |
| 08:52.26 | Adys | cryogen: combat,alt worked thanks |
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| 08:53.34 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r51354 10nQuestLog/ (locales/koKR.lua modules/Tooltips/locales/koKR.lua): |
| 08:53.34 | CIA-12 | nQuestLog: |
| 08:53.34 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 08:53.43 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r51355 10Postman/Postman.lua: |
| 08:53.43 | CIA-12 | Postman: |
| 08:53.43 | CIA-12 | - Fix negative "due in" messages.. issue from before any updates were made |
| 08:54.01 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u sure it works ? |
| 08:54.14 | cryogen | its just whitespace changes |
| 08:54.18 | cryogen | cleaned it up with vim |
| 08:54.32 | cncfanatics | oh sure |
| 08:54.35 | cncfanatics | oki, comitting |
| 08:54.41 | cryogen | ty |
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| 08:56.47 | cncfanatics | lemme test it to make sure cryogen :) |
| 08:56.51 | cryogen | feel free |
| 08:57.53 | cncfanatics | cryogen, why remove all tabs ? |
| 08:58.16 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51356 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/BuffDur.lua: FlexBar2_BuffDur: whitespace changes |
| 08:58.19 | cryogen | im not a fan of tabs |
| 08:58.26 | cryogen | and it was inconsistant |
| 08:58.34 | cryogen | (the main problem with tabs) |
| 08:58.52 | cryogen | i just formatted the whole file with my standard vim settings to make it consistant :) |
| 08:59.11 | cncfanatics | my standard vim settings is autoindent :p |
| 08:59.34 | cryogen | no wars |
| 08:59.37 | cryogen | but he did ask :) |
| 09:00.06 | sylvanaar | i like spaces =) |
| 09:00.28 | sylvanaar | they are the same everywhere |
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| 09:01.12 | cncfanatics | I think vim autoindent uses tabs at start of line and spaces elsewhere, which is what I want :) |
| 09:01.37 | cryogen | not sure, but i use :set expandtab too :) |
| 09:02.25 | Pkekyo | morning all |
| 09:02.28 | cncfanatics | morning |
| 09:02.36 | chexsum | goodbye lightwell hello power infusion |
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| 09:03.25 | cryogen | cncfanatics: is ActionChanged Frame Safe(tm)? |
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| 09:03.40 | Pkekyo | GOD FUCKING DAMNIT! |
| 09:03.40 | Pkekyo | the 'close tab' hotkey is too close to the 'quit' hotkey >.< |
| 09:04.01 | cncfanatics | crogen, what u mean ? |
| 09:04.39 | cryogen | well, if i call UnitHasBuff can i safely use the return value in UnitBuff and get the index I actually want? |
| 09:05.05 | cryogen | i know i cant in UPDATE, but can i in ActionChanged |
| 09:05.30 | cncfanatics | is UnitBuff being called the same frame as UnitBuff ? |
| 09:06.06 | cryogen | well thats what i want to know |
| 09:06.06 | cncfanatics | well, u should answer that |
| 09:06.06 | cncfanatics | are u calling UnitBuff somewhere in the actionchanged event code ? |
| 09:06.06 | cryogen | yes |
| 09:06.24 | ramoz | chexsum: lightwell is shit anyway, much like PoH :P |
| 09:07.01 | cncfanatics | cryogen, then ur good |
| 09:07.09 | cryogen | hmm ok |
| 09:07.20 | cncfanatics | same applies for UPDATE, if u actualy call UnitBuff in ur UPDATE code ur also good, but thats a huge waste of mem :) |
| 09:07.31 | cncfanatics | cpu* |
| 09:07.48 | cryogen | well the thing is |
| 09:07.56 | cryogen | Aura:UnitHasBuff returns a buff index |
| 09:08.08 | cryogen | if i feed that index to UnitBuff, it sometimes returns a different icon than i was expecting |
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| 09:09.40 | cncfanatics | thats because u call Aura:UnitHasBuff not the same frame as UnitBuff prolly |
| 09:10.00 | cryogen | how can i make it the same frame? :p |
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| 09:10.59 | cncfanatics | call it in the same code block |
| 09:11.11 | theoddone33 | I should definitely be able to train druids in travel form |
| 09:11.17 | theoddone33 | er tame |
| 09:11.34 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u can't cache ur index rly |
| 09:11.40 | cncfanatics | u'll have to get it each time again |
| 09:11.50 | cryogen | hrm |
| 09:12.25 | cncfanatics | or at least update the cache of all indexes each time buffs change on the target, that shld work too |
| 09:14.08 | cncfanatics | cryogen, seems u forgot that buffs change a lot :p |
| 09:14.43 | cncfanatics | and also, Aura has its own cache and operates from there, so don't be scared to call Aura:UnitHasBuff |
| 09:14.56 | cryogen | yeah its kinda weird working in a single threaded environment but still having to keep other events in mind :) |
| 09:15.09 | cryogen | thing is i need to check that it exists and get the duration in the same line |
| 09:15.18 | cryogen | im not sure how to do that in one line |
| 09:15.28 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:15.30 | cncfanatics | u don't have to do it in one line |
| 09:15.32 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:15.36 | orionshock | ; |
| 09:15.36 | cncfanatics | but in the same frame, which means the same code block |
| 09:15.47 | cncfanatics | or the same function if you prefer |
| 09:15.58 | cryogen | it *is* in the same function |
| 09:16.10 | orionshock | cryogen: why not just check for the druation? |
| 09:16.19 | orionshock | if that returns then you know you have it |
| 09:16.38 | cryogen | how, without scanning ALL of my buffs? |
| 09:16.50 | orionshock | true... |
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| 09:17.26 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.29 | cryogen | Index = Aura:UnitHasBuff("player", nil, nil, Icon); local _, _, _, _, _, TimeLeft = UnitBuff("player", Index); is what i do |
| 09:17.38 | cncfanatics | that should be perfect |
| 09:17.43 | cryogen | but one of those _s is Icon |
| 09:17.49 | cryogen | and if i examine it, it isnt the icon i want |
| 09:17.52 | cryogen | .. only sometimes |
| 09:17.53 | cryogen | its weird |
| 09:18.01 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I'd suspect Aura has a problem then |
| 09:18.12 | cryogen | it seems to be when i have other people's buffs on me that are not my own |
| 09:18.22 | cryogen | works perfect for just my buff |
| 09:18.22 | cryogen | s |
| 09:18.31 | cryogen | if someone buffs me with say, BoM, it screws up |
| 09:18.40 | cryogen | or if i chug a pot |
| 09:18.52 | cncfanatics | weirdish |
| 09:18.56 | cncfanatics | I suspect a bug in aura, go dig its code ? |
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| 09:19.02 | cncfanatics | on a side note |
| 09:19.11 | cryogen | well im wondering if aura's cache is out of date by the time i call UnitBuff |
| 09:19.27 | cncfanatics | ur using the PlayerBuffChanged event right ? and not blizz's buff event |
| 09:19.38 | cryogen | ya |
| 09:19.44 | cryogen | PlayerBuffGained/Lost/Refreshed |
| 09:19.56 | cncfanatics | the cache can't be out of date by the time u call UnitBuff, its single threaded, no other code can run till urs is running |
| 09:20.41 | cncfanatics | except if it was wrong in the first place ofc |
| 09:20.52 | cryogen | but cant wow update my buffs, and unitbuff return different? |
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| 09:21.04 | cncfanatics | wow will not do shit while ur code runs |
| 09:21.16 | cncfanatics | wow *pauses* why any lua code is running |
| 09:21.21 | cryogen | UnitBuff wont resync my buffs from the server? |
| 09:21.47 | cncfanatics | no |
| 09:21.47 | cryogen | i dont think that's the issue though, hmm |
| 09:22.02 | cryogen | otherwise it would only show up in random situations, but its fairly consistant |
| 09:22.11 | cncfanatics | anyway, the buffs changing while ur code is running is not the issue |
| 09:22.17 | cryogen | no its not |
| 09:22.20 | cncfanatics | the cache is wrong in the first place |
| 09:22.31 | cryogen | perhaps ye |
| 09:22.56 | cncfanatics | pretty sure |
| 09:23.31 | cryogen | whos fault is that, mine or aura? :) |
| 09:24.25 | cncfanatics | think its aura's if ur doing what u said Index = Aura:UnitHasBuff("player", nil, nil, Icon); local _, _, _, _, _, TimeLeft = UnitBuff("player", Index); and u then get a wrong icon |
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| 09:29.03 | Kypck | hi to all |
| 09:31.12 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r609 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/ (49_50_Blasted_Lands.lua 50_51_Searing_Gorge.lua): TourGuide - Guides guides guides |
| 09:32.53 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar, the "log as prat does" functionnality on Elephant is on its way. i'd like to thank you for your help on the forums ;) |
| 09:33.26 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 ? |
| 09:33.42 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2800.msg113146#msg113146 |
| 09:34.20 | pb_ee1 | a quite old message, but i had it in my favorites |
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| 09:36.02 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 um ok, your welcome |
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| 09:39.42 | Fisker-- | NO U Punkie` |
| 09:39.44 | Fisker-- | hence i won. |
| 09:41.41 | Punkie` | too late |
| 09:41.51 | Punkie` | you've become a singularity |
| 09:41.55 | Punkie` | anyway gotta shoot |
| 09:46.24 | pb_ee1 | is there any way to catch the exact strings written by simplecombatlog to the combat log? |
| 09:46.46 | pb_ee1 | it seems the addon uses :AddMessage, thus it's a bit... erm shitty to get the message |
| 09:47.22 | CIA-12 | 03arkayenro * r51357 10ArkInventory/ (4 files): |
| 09:47.22 | CIA-12 | ArkInventory: |
| 09:47.23 | CIA-12 | - 2.10d |
| 09:49.22 | cncfanatics | hook it ? |
| 09:50.01 | pb_ee1 | it's not the correct way to do it, the function could be called from any chatframe |
| 09:50.18 | pb_ee1 | the good way would be to trigger an event when scl displays a message |
| 09:50.32 | pb_ee1 | then -> catch -> do whatever you want with the data |
| 09:50.43 | Dustwhisper | What works without creating an unecessary overhead is the correct way to do it =) |
| 09:50.51 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 09:51.24 | cncfanatics | modify SCL to trigger an event when it adds stuff |
| 09:51.30 | pb_ee1 | so instead of using an event, you would hook 6 different functions and check _every_ message that are passed through to know if it is maybe scl? |
| 09:51.50 | pb_ee1 | yeah, cncfanatics, i'd just like to know if i can do it like that or if i should ask its author(s) |
| 09:51.53 | [Ammo] | modifying SCL just because of one silly addon doesn't sound like the right way |
| 09:52.05 | [Ammo] | just hook AddMessage and log everything? |
| 09:52.14 | pb_ee1 | thanks for the 'silly', [Ammo]. |
| 09:52.21 | [Ammo] | I call everything silly |
| 09:52.26 | pb_ee1 | ho, nm then |
| 09:52.50 | cncfanatics | well, SCL should trigger an event already rly |
| 09:52.54 | pb_ee1 | and how can i know it has been displayed by SCL? ;p |
| 09:53.40 | pb_ee1 | i'd like to get the exact strings displayed by the addon, that's all. there's no way atm to do this properly, hooking AddMessage is really a pain in the ass |
| 09:53.50 | Zhinjio | is MyAddon:RegisterDB( nil, "MyAddonPCSV" ) valid? |
| 09:54.02 | Zhinjio | (I don't have account based saved variables, just per character) |
| 09:54.25 | cncfanatics | I never use the per char db tbh :p just use the char profile ? (thats what I do at least) |
| 09:54.39 | pb_ee1 | no Zhinjio |
| 09:55.00 | pb_ee1 | first arg musn't be nil, i think |
| 09:55.09 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0#:RegisterDB.28.22globalName.22_.5B.2C_.22perCharName.22.5D_.5B.2C_.22defaultProfile.22.5D.29 |
| 09:55.27 | Zhinjio | yeah, I'm at that page. |
| 09:56.12 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 09:56.24 | pb_ee1 | so what should i do? i am now able to save prat's message in elephant, but i'd like to do the same thing with scl. should i trigger an event when it tries to display a message? |
| 09:56.25 | Zhinjio | I guess I can just leave the globally saved data empty and not use it. *shrug* |
| 09:57.06 | [Ammo] | pb_ee1: just hook SCL then? |
| 09:57.50 | pb_ee1 | well i looked at the code and it _never_ passes the exact string to a function, so there is no way to hook it properly |
| 09:58.16 | [Ammo] | pb_ee1: you can hook the function that does the AddMessage, set a flag in your addon, next addmessage = SCL |
| 09:58.20 | pb_ee1 | i could create a function such as "DisplayMessage(chatframe, text)" and hook it though |
| 09:58.35 | [Ammo] | you don't need to modify the addon |
| 09:58.36 | Zhinjio | further: do you need to have multiple calls to RegisterDB to save several variables, or is the idea to use a single variable with multiple sub-tables to save multiple values? |
| 09:58.40 | pb_ee1 | and i'll have to hook 6 AddMessage.... |
| 09:58.44 | [Ammo] | so? |
| 09:58.47 | Zhinjio | I'm sorry if this is all really noob stuff. I'm... a noob. right now. |
| 09:59.01 | cryogen | ~api UnitDebuff |
| 09:59.02 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitDebuff |
| 09:59.24 | pb_ee1 | it uses more cpu & memory, and i don't want to use workarounds when there is a simple and obvious way to do something |
| 09:59.28 | cncfanatics | cryogen, is ur stuff working now ? :p |
| 09:59.42 | cryogen | putting some debugs in |
| 09:59.46 | [Ammo] | pb_ee1: what you are proposing adds stuff to an addon just for your addon |
| 09:59.47 | cryogen | have to pretend to work too :p |
| 09:59.54 | pb_ee1 | so if i cannot change anything (or its author), i'll just don't add this |
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| 10:00.13 | [Ammo] | pb_ee1: and since SCL has a userbase that dwarves your userbase -> more users get the extra CPU just because you need it |
| 10:00.17 | pb_ee1 | well i am just surprised that nobody did want to use these strings |
| 10:00.51 | pb_ee1 | prat does use the triggerevent function though... but not scl, cause it's "bad" :D |
| 10:01.09 | pb_ee1 | nm, i'll just don't do it. better, faster, simplier :) |
| 10:01.32 | [Ammo] | prehook SCL:ParseInfo, set flag, check on hooked AddMessage done |
| 10:01.46 | [Ammo] | heck you could even hook AddMessage only when SCL:ParseInfo is called |
| 10:01.52 | [Ammo] | and unhook right after to save CPU |
| 10:01.55 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 10:01.59 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 10:02.04 | cryogen | cncfanatics: try http://pkl.net/~stu/debugs.diff |
| 10:02.12 | pb_ee1 | it would make something like 200 hooks/unhooks per second in raid |
| 10:02.14 | cryogen | you need to have a buff on a buttn that gets remaps on a modifier |
| 10:02.21 | [Ammo] | probably yeah |
| 10:02.25 | [Ammo] | just hook and go |
| 10:02.29 | cryogen | actually you dont, you just need some button that remaps on a modifier |
| 10:02.38 | cncfanatics | any remap should do lol ? even stealth |
| 10:02.39 | [Ammo] | that elephant thing is a chatlogger right? |
| 10:02.39 | cryogen | but what you really need is to be buffed by a buff that isnt your own |
| 10:02.42 | cryogen | yeah |
| 10:02.53 | [Ammo] | your logging will cause more cpu than the simple hook |
| 10:03.05 | cncfanatics | cryogen, fixed the bug with ActionCHanged also ? unhandy that numbers fade when I drag a totaly unrelated action |
| 10:03.19 | cryogen | hm? |
| 10:03.26 | cncfanatics | have a buff thats counting |
| 10:03.33 | cncfanatics | drag the action on any button, the number will fade |
| 10:03.43 | cryogen | hmm |
| 10:03.50 | cryogen | well these debugs shoudl help with that too |
| 10:04.12 | cryogen | it sure wont fix anything though :) |
| 10:04.26 | cncfanatics | u used FlexBar2:Debug I hope and not print ? :p |
| 10:04.34 | cryogen | *cough* |
| 10:04.46 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 you can use a hack like in copychat which sets the font size really small then grabs all the text in one swoop |
| 10:05.13 | cncfanatics | cryogen ... |
| 10:05.18 | pb_ee1 | You should try it [Ammo]. It already logs the combat log with nearly no lag (but you mustn't have the window opened during combat, in raid) |
| 10:05.24 | cncfanatics | ah well, I'll try it, just let me finish the AH scan |
| 10:05.33 | cryogen | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitDebuff |
| 10:05.34 | cncfanatics | why did they ever remove the progress bar from that ... |
| 10:05.35 | cryogen | oops |
| 10:05.54 | cryogen | :%s/Print/Debug/g :p |
| 10:06.06 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: setting the size to really small makes the log "bigger"? |
| 10:06.46 | cncfanatics | someone, any way to get a progress bar for bottomscanner ? |
| 10:06.47 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1 the text is already stored by blizzard, but the only time you can access it is when it is being shown on the frame |
| 10:07.01 | pb_ee1 | yup |
| 10:07.20 | sylvanaar | so small text you can have 200 lines on the frame |
| 10:07.30 | pb_ee1 | ho, i see what you mean, but now if the user choose to put the combat log in two different frames without timestamps? |
| 10:07.43 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 10:07.52 | sylvanaar | look how copychat doees it |
| 10:08.18 | pb_ee1 | Copy chat only lets you copy one chat, that's it? |
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| 10:08.33 | sylvanaar | just go try it |
| 10:08.42 | pb_ee1 | i'm going to try it |
| 10:08.48 | cncfanatics | cryogen, use :Debug :) and do /fb debug debug=true to get debug output |
| 10:08.59 | cryogen | ya |
| 10:09.03 | cryogen | i s/Print/Debug/g :p |
| 10:09.41 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.57 | cncfanatics | seems u forgot to add a nil check in case the button was empty |
| 10:10.39 | CIA-12 | 03pb_ee1 * r51358 10Elephant/ (10 files): |
| 10:10.39 | CIA-12 | Elephant: |
| 10:10.39 | CIA-12 | - Adding CHAT_MSG_SKILL to combat log. |
| 10:10.39 | CIA-12 | - Elephant is now able to log all the messages exactly the same way Prat does. You must have Prat loaded for this functionnality to work. Default logging will be used if Prat is not loaded. |
| 10:10.39 | CIA-12 | - You can enable/disable this new functionnality directly in game without reloading the UI. |
| 10:12.01 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ah, i just put the wrong check in on that line, remove .. TmpIcon |
| 10:12.07 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u do that |
| 10:12.09 | cncfanatics | I just test :p |
| 10:12.13 | cncfanatics | everything seems to work fine |
| 10:12.20 | cncfanatics | I have a button with frost armor on button 2 |
| 10:12.23 | sylvanaar | i feel like im in a parallel universe |
| 10:12.25 | cncfanatics | it remaps to fireball with shift |
| 10:12.34 | cncfanatics | the sub appears & disappears fine |
| 10:12.43 | cryogen | do you have any other buffs on you? |
| 10:13.34 | cncfanatics | ice armor - wotf is what i'm testing |
| 10:13.36 | cncfanatics | no outside buffs |
| 10:13.43 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 10:13.43 | cryogen | get someone to buff you |
| 10:13.43 | cncfanatics | bug |
| 10:14.18 | cncfanatics | hmmm, bug in FB ? texture didn't update for modifier here |
| 10:14.33 | cryogen | naughty! |
| 10:14.37 | cryogen | it's always worked for me though |
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| 10:14.58 | cryogen | wouldnt my bug in ActionChanged cause FB to not function quite properly? |
| 10:15.37 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, this is weird, it updates sometimes and sometimes not |
| 10:15.40 | cncfanatics | I don't think its actionchanged |
| 10:15.44 | cncfanatics | but my code that triggers on it |
| 10:15.45 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar, just seen how it works, but that does not fix the problem |
| 10:16.16 | cryogen | revert that, and apply http://pkl.net/~stu/debug.diff |
| 10:16.32 | cryogen | that will remove the lua error at least |
| 10:16.33 | QuantumDelta | *abuses cryogen* |
| 10:16.58 | QuantumDelta | stu highlights me :P |
| 10:17.01 | cncfanatics | cryogen, let me first get rid of that buff |
| 10:17.02 | QuantumDelta | so every time... |
| 10:17.06 | cryogen | QuantumDelta: hehe |
| 10:17.14 | QuantumDelta | used to it tho :P |
| 10:17.20 | cryogen | i'll change my name for you :p |
| 10:17.30 | QuantumDelta | excellent! |
| 10:17.35 | cryogen | ..or not |
| 10:17.41 | QuantumDelta | Damn, foiled again |
| 10:17.47 | QuantumDelta | but hey at least your parents had good taste! |
| 10:17.52 | cryogen | indeed |
| 10:18.40 | cncfanatics | cryogen, wth do u do in buffdur ? |
| 10:18.45 | cncfanatics | remaps on modifiers only work correctly when its not active |
| 10:18.52 | cryogen | o_O |
| 10:19.19 | cryogen | did i steal a variable name? |
| 10:19.28 | cryogen | and is it only with the debug version? |
| 10:19.46 | cncfanatics | or there is a bug in my loops, but I doubt it, lets see |
| 10:20.14 | cryogen | modifiers work great for me btw, and i use them loads |
| 10:20.30 | QuantumDelta | I should start using modifiers |
| 10:20.50 | cryogen | fb2s modifiers has cut the number of bars i use from 4 to 2 :) |
| 10:20.50 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, u'd love how FB does em :p |
| 10:21.12 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 10:21.15 | cryogen | i just need right click self cast now *cough* |
| 10:21.24 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 10:21.32 | QuantumDelta | the problem is i'm primarily, not a clicker |
| 10:21.45 | QuantumDelta | so I'd have to kill pet binds and bar-paging |
| 10:22.00 | cncfanatics | I'm not a clicking either |
| 10:22.02 | cncfanatics | clicking sucks |
| 10:22.09 | cryogen | FB2 helps me stop clicking :) |
| 10:23.20 | cncfanatics | lol cryogen I get it |
| 10:23.21 | cncfanatics | ur error |
| 10:23.27 | cncfanatics | happens in the event loop |
| 10:23.32 | cncfanatics | so it interrupts the loop from running |
| 10:23.35 | cncfanatics | better get rid of it |
| 10:23.42 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:23.43 | cryogen | thats what i was trying to tell you :p |
| 10:23.56 | cryogen | and the new patch removes the error |
| 10:24.02 | cryogen | im like 2 hours ahead of you :D |
| 10:24.05 | cryogen | catch up already! |
| 10:24.10 | cncfanatics | lol, didn't think of that here :p |
| 10:24.14 | cncfanatics | what to change ? |
| 10:24.20 | cncfanatics | I did some local changes so a diff won't work |
| 10:24.43 | cryogen | just remove the debug that says clearing timer |
| 10:24.46 | cryogen | the first one |
| 10:24.47 | cncfanatics | sure |
| 10:25.11 | cryogen | thats just if theres no aura at all on this button, which we dont care about anyway |
| 10:25.44 | QuantumDelta | How many bars does flexbar support btw? |
| 10:26.16 | cncfanatics | 511654613245646546512348976541245641^ 515612341564231243132 |
| 10:26.16 | cryogen | as many as you want? |
| 10:26.21 | cryogen | it doesnt really have a concept of bars |
| 10:26.23 | cryogen | you make your own |
| 10:26.31 | cncfanatics | don't use actionid's, so infinite |
| 10:26.54 | QuantumDelta | hmmm |
| 10:27.00 | QuantumDelta | kinky |
| 10:27.10 | QuantumDelta | I use 6 atm :< |
| 10:27.46 | cncfanatics | and QuantumDelta, if u like modifiers, ur gonna love flexbar |
| 10:27.50 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 10:27.52 | cncfanatics | remaps on modifiers is totaly <3 |
| 10:27.58 | QuantumDelta | remaps? |
| 10:28.00 | cncfanatics | and its automagical |
| 10:28.14 | cncfanatics | cryogen, mind explaining em how they work while I track bugs ? :) |
| 10:28.24 | QuantumDelta | does that mean the currently impossible on standard bars becomes possible :< |
| 10:28.30 | cryogen | basically, if you have something bound to 1 |
| 10:28.38 | cryogen | and hit alt, you can drag a new action onto button 1 |
| 10:28.45 | cryogen | and it will change the button when you press alt |
| 10:28.47 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 10:28.51 | QuantumDelta | Does that include macros? |
| 10:29.03 | cncfanatics | everything, but macro support in FB is slightly poor atm |
| 10:29.14 | QuantumDelta | Theoretical: |
| 10:29.15 | cncfanatics | thats because the API is missing though, but they'll work |
| 10:29.22 | QuantumDelta | I have 3 fairly long mount macros |
| 10:29.40 | QuantumDelta | Ideally, I'd like them to be one button, but obviously since each one is almost full macro length |
| 10:29.44 | QuantumDelta | that'll never happen :P |
| 10:29.53 | CIA-12 | 03daviesh * r51359 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:29.53 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:29.53 | CIA-12 | - Updated the tooltips to reflect that right-clicking is no longer necessary. |
| 10:30.04 | QuantumDelta | this sounds like flexbar would be capable of it |
| 10:30.25 | cncfanatics | put one on shift |
| 10:30.27 | cncfanatics | another on alt |
| 10:30.29 | cncfanatics | another on simple click ? |
| 10:30.30 | QuantumDelta | yea |
| 10:30.36 | cncfanatics | perfectly possible |
| 10:30.41 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 10:30.42 | QuantumDelta | I'm sold |
| 10:30.43 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 10:30.49 | cncfanatics | its sexy really |
| 10:31.02 | cncfanatics | cryogen, lots of weirdness with thorns + motw on me |
| 10:31.09 | cncfanatics | frost armor is always correct |
| 10:31.12 | cryogen | whats the debugs say? |
| 10:31.15 | cncfanatics | but, wotf seems to mess up |
| 10:31.24 | cncfanatics | lemme enable it |
| 10:31.32 | cryogen | and ye, this is the problem im having |
| 10:31.39 | cryogen | if you have no remaps it would all work perfect |
| 10:32.05 | cncfanatics | well, the event triggers for it, u shld just do a full check again on them |
| 10:32.09 | cncfanatics | (I think you do ?) |
| 10:32.21 | cryogen | i do ye |
| 10:32.23 | cryogen | in theory |
| 10:32.45 | cryogen | ActionChanged should cause a total refresh, and it does, it just doesnt work quite right |
| 10:33.40 | cncfanatics | it clears the timer for wotf |
| 10:33.44 | cncfanatics | for some reason |
| 10:33.49 | cncfanatics | the buff had 1-2 secs left I think |
| 10:33.56 | cncfanatics | anoying with such short buffs |
| 10:33.58 | cncfanatics | let me log my 70 mage |
| 10:33.59 | cryogen | what message did it print? |
| 10:34.02 | cncfanatics | he has craploads of buffs to test |
| 10:34.25 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, if u need help setting up just tell me, happy to help |
| 10:34.50 | QuantumDelta | <33 |
| 10:35.24 | Grum | cncfanatics: does fb only have console commands to set it up? |
| 10:35.45 | cncfanatics | Grum, currently yea |
| 10:35.51 | cncfanatics | GUI is being worked on, but very slowly |
| 10:35.57 | Grum | omg ... |
| 10:36.17 | cncfanatics | cryogen, it messed up molten armor & amplify |
| 10:36.22 | cncfanatics | it switched both |
| 10:36.25 | cryogen | o_O |
| 10:36.29 | cryogen | whats the debugs say? |
| 10:36.35 | cncfanatics | lemme do it again |
| 10:37.05 | cncfanatics | messed up AI & dampen this time |
| 10:37.13 | cncfanatics | seems it messed up buffs that are on the same button |
| 10:37.15 | cncfanatics | and I know why |
| 10:37.20 | cncfanatics | u store stuff in the button right? |
| 10:37.26 | cryogen | yup |
| 10:37.32 | cncfanatics | if two actions are on the same button, but not on the same modifier it messes up |
| 10:37.35 | cncfanatics | *hint* |
| 10:37.50 | cncfanatics | use a cache outside the buttons that works via Icon |
| 10:37.51 | cryogen | it should completely refresh though |
| 10:38.04 | cncfanatics | hmmm, then I dunno |
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| 10:38.11 | cncfanatics | seems there's something ur not clearing to me |
| 10:38.24 | cryogen | whats the debugs say? |
| 10:38.36 | cncfanatics | a lot -.- |
| 10:38.48 | cncfanatics | lemme clear it & reproduce |
| 10:38.50 | cryogen | Found buff, adding timer |
| 10:38.52 | cryogen | whats that say |
| 10:39.05 | cncfanatics | also ? why is the sub not added instantly ? |
| 10:39.10 | cncfanatics | there's some slight delay and I wonder why |
| 10:39.25 | cryogen | probably because it doesnt get loaded till after FB? |
| 10:39.40 | cncfanatics | no, thats the same frame |
| 10:39.43 | cncfanatics | ur delaying it somewhere |
| 10:39.53 | cncfanatics | I see |
| 10:39.54 | cncfanatics | got ya |
| 10:40.05 | cncfanatics | UpdateBuffDuration clears everything ? |
| 10:40.10 | cncfanatics | but without refreshing right ? |
| 10:40.10 | cryogen | it should |
| 10:40.16 | cncfanatics | so it gets refreshed on the next frame, 0.3 secs later |
| 10:40.24 | cryogen | ahh |
| 10:40.29 | cryogen | ye, if it adds a new one it doesnt refresh |
| 10:40.38 | cryogen | oddly enough, if it removes one it refreshes :p |
| 10:40.39 | cryogen | i'll change that |
| 10:40.47 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:40.56 | cryogen | anyway gimmie the debug :p |
| 10:41.16 | cncfanatics | too long to paste -.- |
| 10:41.19 | cncfanatics | and I can't copy & paste all that shit |
| 10:41.24 | cryogen | it should say: Icon of the current button, then the icon returned by Aura, then the icon returned by UnitBuff |
| 10:41.33 | cryogen | just translate the icon into the buff name :0 |
| 10:41.34 | cryogen | :) |
| 10:41.42 | cncfanatics | I hit my remaps about every 0.5 secs |
| 10:41.45 | cncfanatics | don't make me |
| 10:41.52 | cryogen | just 2 lines is enough |
| 10:41.55 | cryogen | 1 when you hit the modifier |
| 10:41.58 | cryogen | 1 when you let go |
| 10:42.02 | cncfanatics | its not bugged atm |
| 10:42.07 | cryogen | k |
| 10:42.13 | cryogen | all 3 icons should be the same then? |
| 10:42.27 | cryogen | it shoudl only bug if those icons are not the same |
| 10:42.31 | cncfanatics | found buff, blabla adding blabla |
| 10:42.37 | cncfanatics | and then its added on the next UPDATE |
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| 10:42.43 | cryogen | yea |
| 10:42.45 | cncfanatics | if I change it before that UPDATE happens (quite hard to manage) it bugs |
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| 10:43.46 | cncfanatics | ur doing something weird, I can't see why u only update the next frame tbh :p |
| 10:43.56 | cryogen | hmm |
| 10:44.06 | cryogen | i spotted a couple of things that might cause it |
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| 10:44.34 | cncfanatics | fix em xD |
| 10:44.40 | cncfanatics | and add targetbuff support when ur done :) |
| 10:44.52 | cncfanatics | btw, wowace is our private channel now, we're the only two talking :p |
| 10:45.01 | cryogen | :D |
| 10:45.10 | cryogen | you want a new diff, or the changes? |
| 10:45.11 | Grum | i'm wondering how you can config flexbar2 |
| 10:45.18 | cryogen | if you take a new diff you need to revert your code |
| 10:45.19 | Grum | hard to do in a visual configuration |
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| 10:46.18 | cncfanatics | Grum, the slashcommands are quite intuitive once ur used to them imo |
| 10:46.40 | mikma | no gui = shiiiit! ;) |
| 10:46.53 | Grum | i hate typing seriously |
| 10:47.11 | mikma | "whops, typo, need to type this again" |
| 10:47.30 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 10:47.38 | cncfanatics | be patient if u want a gui, its coming but will take a while |
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| 10:49.18 | cryogen | cncfanatics: yo, you want these changes or not? >:p |
| 10:50.09 | cncfanatics | cryogen, gimme a diff ? |
| 10:50.33 | cryogen | you'll have to revert your changes fist |
| 10:50.34 | cryogen | but sure |
| 10:50.46 | cncfanatics | depends if the changes conflict or not |
| 10:50.50 | cncfanatics | patch is quite allowant |
| 10:50.56 | cryogen | my changes are from the head revision tho |
| 10:51.00 | cryogen | not from the last diff i sent |
| 10:51.05 | cncfanatics | bleh |
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| 10:51.07 | cncfanatics | roger |
| 10:51.11 | cncfanatics | I'll do an svn revert |
| 10:51.18 | cryogen | i just do svn diff before i send it |
| 10:51.28 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:51.49 | QuantumDelta | Though it does make it easy to see when you're tinkering xD |
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| 10:52.17 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, to who are you repying there? :o |
| 10:52.28 | QuantumDelta | I'm teasing cryogen |
| 10:52.47 | cryogen | :p |
| 10:52.49 | sag_ich_nicht | http://xkcd.com/326/ wow, that's a mean one. |
| 10:53.40 | cncfanatics | is it sag_ich_nicht, I kinda don't get it -.- |
| 10:53.51 | sag_ich_nicht | haha. noob. |
| 10:53.58 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r51360 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: |
| 10:53.58 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 10:53.58 | CIA-12 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 10:54.03 | cncfanatics | 29 mins left on amplify, Cryogen |
| 10:54.15 | sag_ich_nicht | "effects" means "it causes it" afffects means "it influences it" |
| 10:54.18 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: lol |
| 10:54.20 | cncfanatics | it just messed up totaly |
| 10:54.27 | cncfanatics | I know that sag_ich_nicht |
| 10:54.29 | cryogen | messed up how? |
| 10:54.40 | cncfanatics | ehm, the AI time is on amplify |
| 10:54.45 | cncfanatics | the amplify time on AI |
| 10:54.49 | cncfanatics | they're on two diff buttons |
| 10:54.50 | cryogen | how are those buttons set up? |
| 10:54.52 | cryogen | k |
| 10:54.56 | cryogen | debugs? :p |
| 10:55.09 | cncfanatics | meh they were disabled |
| 10:55.13 | cncfanatics | btw cryogen |
| 10:55.20 | cncfanatics | I suggest making it work without cache first |
| 10:55.20 | cryogen | enable and cause a actionchanged event |
| 10:55.24 | cncfanatics | and then start thinking about a cache |
| 10:55.30 | cryogen | i really dont think its the cache |
| 10:55.40 | cryogen | the icon is not cached, its rechecked each time |
| 10:55.49 | cryogen | the duration is also refreshed on actionchanged |
| 10:55.51 | cryogen | so its not the cache |
| 10:55.58 | cncfanatics | weirdish |
| 10:56.09 | cryogen | the debugs will tell me whats going on |
| 10:56.14 | cncfanatics | there's 4 actions |
| 10:56.34 | do3mca | hm |
| 10:56.59 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51361 10EnhancedLFG/core.lua: EnhancedLFG: Adds spec to the who frame also (since its virtually identical). Queries only sent if you select spec in the dropdown on the who frame. |
| 10:57.00 | cncfanatics | found buff, adding timer for <molten armor icon> <amplify magic icon> |
| 10:57.01 | do3mca | given that autobar has been updated within 19 hours, maybe someone would bump the version number? |
| 10:57.04 | cncfanatics | shouldnt those 2 be the same cryogen ? |
| 10:57.19 | cncfanatics | do3rnca too lazy to push the load out of date addons ? :p |
| 10:57.23 | cryogen | cncfanatics: only 2? |
| 10:57.32 | do3mca | cncfanatics: sorry? |
| 10:57.41 | do3mca | oh |
| 10:57.42 | cncfanatics | there's others also, similiar to these, most with the two matching, some with them not matching |
| 10:57.47 | do3mca | i do right now |
| 10:58.00 | cryogen | cncfanatics: the one line where they differe.. there should be 3 icons displayed |
| 10:58.01 | cryogen | not 2 |
| 10:58.04 | cryogen | i need all 3 |
| 10:58.05 | do3mca | but i find it indeed useful to tag outofdate plugins on the toc |
| 10:58.16 | cncfanatics | aaah yea |
| 10:58.19 | cncfanatics | I'll send u another one |
| 10:58.41 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r51362 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurnin.toc: AutoTurnin: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:59.07 | cncfanatics | found buff, adding timer for <intellect buff icon> <intellect buff icon> <amplify magic icon> |
| 10:59.07 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r51363 10Aloft/Options/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Aloft: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:59.17 | cryogen | so this is your AI button? |
| 10:59.21 | cryogen | and it shows AMP duration? |
| 10:59.46 | cncfanatics | :unsure: |
| 10:59.49 | cncfanatics | lemme check again :p |
| 10:59.52 | cryogen | well, let me tell you |
| 10:59.53 | cryogen | it is :p |
| 11:00.01 | cryogen | which means: Aura and UnitBuff had a disagreement |
| 11:00.05 | cryogen | which means: :wtf: |
| 11:00.18 | cncfanatics | I just loaded wow |
| 11:00.22 | cncfanatics | amplify is already messed up |
| 11:00.23 | cncfanatics | on load |
| 11:00.37 | cncfanatics | AI on button one shows amplify time, amplify on button 2 shows AI time |
| 11:00.52 | rophy | Anyone know if SnapToGrid still works or is there similar addon which works? |
| 11:01.08 | cryogen | cncfanatics: WAIT JUST A COLLAR PICKIN MINUTE |
| 11:01.26 | cncfanatics | u messed up somewhere ? :p |
| 11:01.33 | cryogen | oh no, nevermind |
| 11:01.36 | cryogen | got excited for no reason |
| 11:01.46 | cryogen | basically, i need Aura to return me the buff duration |
| 11:01.51 | cryogen | because it is out of sync with UnitBuff |
| 11:02.14 | cncfanatics | Aura doesnt keep buff duration |
| 11:02.19 | cncfanatics | and the fact its out of sync means its bugged |
| 11:02.23 | cryogen | it does |
| 11:02.30 | cncfanatics | it does ? then grab it |
| 11:02.34 | cryogen | it keeps it internally |
| 11:02.37 | cryogen | but does not expose it |
| 11:02.39 | cncfanatics | lemme check |
| 11:02.56 | cryogen | it sends it on some events |
| 11:02.58 | cryogen | but none usful here |
| 11:03.42 | cncfanatics | try Aura.vars.buffs["player"] |
| 11:03.45 | cncfanatics | everything is kept in there |
| 11:03.47 | cncfanatics | lemme dump it |
| 11:04.12 | cncfanatics | keeps everything there |
| 11:04.41 | cryogen | try dumping Aura:UnitHasBuff("Arcane Intellect", nil, nil) |
| 11:04.49 | cryogen | then feed the index to UnitBuff("player", index) |
| 11:04.52 | cryogen | and dump that |
| 11:05.03 | cryogen | MAYBE aura returns an index that does not quite match unitbuff |
| 11:05.07 | cryogen | maybe its off by one |
| 11:05.09 | cncfanatics | well, u can get the duration |
| 11:05.24 | cryogen | i shouldnt need to tho |
| 11:05.27 | cryogen | i think it may be off by one |
| 11:05.29 | cryogen | and not out of sync |
| 11:05.45 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.00 | cncfanatics | that gives me a table |
| 11:06.00 | cryogen | ye, i can to work around it |
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| 11:06.04 | cncfanatics | indexed in the way Icon = start |
| 11:06.05 | cryogen | but im saying that i shouldnt need to |
| 11:06.13 | cncfanatics | well, the more cached stuff u use the more performant u are |
| 11:06.15 | cncfanatics | so heck, use it |
| 11:06.22 | mikma | http://jokes.ianai.net/OpenDoor.jpeg |
| 11:06.25 | cryogen | bit of a nasty way to do it tho |
| 11:06.26 | cncfanatics | u can figure the duration using Aura's start time |
| 11:06.30 | cryogen | its not really exposed by the lib |
| 11:06.58 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r610 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/ (3 files): Cleaned up some files |
| 11:07.01 | orionshock | " i don't sell things to guildies...i trade them for /favors/ " |
| 11:07.08 | cncfanatics | it is |
| 11:07.14 | cncfanatics | that vars is exposed for a reason u know |
| 11:07.19 | cncfanatics | it'd be a local if ur not suposed to use it |
| 11:07.35 | cryogen | hmm ok |
| 11:07.46 | cncfanatics | I'd use the start duration from there using the icon |
| 11:07.48 | do3mca | mikma: uh :D |
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| 11:08.35 | cryogen | i still think its off by one :D |
| 11:08.43 | cncfanatics | cryogen, so what ? we found a better way |
| 11:08.51 | cncfanatics | UnitBuff has overhead :p just looking up a table has less overhead |
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| 11:09.28 | cncfanatics | (actualy, u should get a local version of Aura.vars.buffs["player"].duration and use that all the time, 1 lookup instead of 5 |
| 11:09.34 | cryogen | timeLeft might work |
| 11:10.28 | cryogen | timeEnd and duration together actually |
| 11:10.51 | cncfanatics | well, u can computer the timeleft easely with the start |
| 11:10.56 | cncfanatics | GetTime() - starttime |
| 11:11.29 | cncfanatics | StartTIme u get from aura |
| 11:11.32 | CIA-12 | 03pb_ee1 * r51364 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 11:11.32 | CIA-12 | LibRockConfig-1.0: |
| 11:11.32 | CIA-12 | - Updating frFR localization. |
| 11:11.32 | CIA-12 | - Fixing a few erroneous tabs in chinese translation. |
| 11:11.40 | mikma | do3mca: did you get it? :) |
| 11:11.52 | do3mca | there are two jokes inside |
| 11:12.16 | mikma | well i don't know what the nonenglish says :D |
| 11:12.39 | do3mca | 1) albeit the door is open, DO NOT ENTER. 2) hey, we left the door open to ventilate |
| 11:12.49 | do3mca | as if not enought ventilation would go through the holes |
| 11:12.55 | mikma | :D |
| 11:13.16 | kebinusan | Is it possible to have omnibus spam a page to /raid |
| 11:13.19 | kebinusan | or something |
| 11:13.38 | kebinusan | I want to spam fight basics for crap we are learning |
| 11:14.12 | mikma | kebinusan: omnibus: http://askaninja.com/node/4576 |
| 11:14.50 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51365 10PitBull_Prat/Prat.lua: PitBull_Prat: Adjustable font size as requested. |
| 11:15.00 | kebinusan | somehow not quite what I was looking for mikma |
| 11:15.45 | mikma | kebinusan: :( now he will turn the omnibus around |
| 11:15.56 | cryogen | cncfanatics: http://pkl.net/~stu/debug.diff |
| 11:15.57 | cryogen | try that |
| 11:16.07 | cryogen | hmm wai |
| 11:16.08 | cryogen | t |
| 11:16.12 | cryogen | that will cause some lua errors |
| 11:16.13 | cncfanatics | cryogen, sec, getting butter :p |
| 11:16.17 | CIA-12 | 03silviu * r51366 10beql/ (beql.toc embeds.xml): beql: - Added embeds.xml |
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| 11:17.35 | sylvanaar | kebinusan there was an addon like that called Tactics |
| 11:17.48 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ok now get it :) |
| 11:17.52 | cryogen | should be fixed, might error :p |
| 11:19.02 | cncfanatics | cryogen, sec |
| 11:19.04 | cncfanatics | eating :) |
| 11:19.08 | cryogen | :) |
| 11:19.18 | kebinusan | wow curse is buggy |
| 11:19.48 | cryogen | cncfanatics: btw, the last version got rid of the delay in updating, right? |
| 11:19.53 | cncfanatics | ye |
| 11:19.55 | cryogen | cool |
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| 11:20.17 | cryogen | i also accidentally introduced a global variable called Index, which i fixed :) |
| 11:22.51 | [Ammo] | ~seen ulic |
| 11:22.52 | purl | ulic is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 10h 20m 58s, last said: 'Nandini: no, you'll just kill more kittens'. |
| 11:22.58 | Tinyboom | mikma: brilliant video:p |
| 11:23.02 | cryogen | im also thinking about making the counter just say 'm' for everything above 60s, what you think? |
| 11:23.11 | cncfanatics | cryogen ,ur choice |
| 11:23.19 | cncfanatics | cryogen, still bugged |
| 11:23.25 | cryogen | wth |
| 11:23.32 | cryogen | then aura itself is wrong |
| 11:23.34 | cncfanatics | did u update the diff ? |
| 11:23.37 | cryogen | yes |
| 11:23.42 | cncfanatics | cuz I think its still the old one tbh |
| 11:23.47 | mikma | Tinyboom: wut video? |
| 11:23.52 | mikma | oh that |
| 11:23.54 | cryogen | if you have the latest version, you shouldnt be able to find UnitBuff in the file |
| 11:23.56 | mikma | omnibus :D |
| 11:23.56 | cncfanatics | cant see u getting Aura.vars anywhere |
| 11:24.09 | cncfanatics | there's UnitBuff in the file |
| 11:24.14 | cncfanatics | http://pkl.net/~stu/debug.diff |
| 11:24.18 | cryogen | try again |
| 11:24.23 | cryogen | make sure you are overwriting your old diff |
| 11:24.26 | cryogen | its the same name |
| 11:24.28 | cncfanatics | not anymore now |
| 11:24.36 | cncfanatics | damn browser cache |
| 11:24.40 | cryogen | :) |
| 11:25.12 | Tinyboom | mikma: askaninja :p |
| 11:25.32 | Tinyboom | mikma: http://www.illwillpress.com/gore22.html |
| 11:25.45 | cncfanatics | not showing shit, cryogen |
| 11:25.47 | cncfanatics | no errors |
| 11:25.52 | mikma | aww, no sound atm |
| 11:25.53 | cncfanatics | subs are empty |
| 11:25.59 | Tinyboom | foamy rocks:p |
| 11:26.22 | cncfanatics | cryogen, the thing that aura keeps is not the timeleft |
| 11:26.27 | cncfanatics | its when the buff started |
| 11:26.39 | cncfanatics | at least I think it is, it doesn't change |
| 11:27.37 | cryogen | ye, its not timeLeft at all |
| 11:27.44 | cryogen | bad name |
| 11:27.45 | cryogen | hold |
| 11:28.08 | cncfanatics | on a side note, the subs are all empty |
| 11:28.14 | cryogen | heh |
| 11:28.33 | cryogen | thats because i set the end time to whatever is in timeleft |
| 11:28.39 | cryogen | which would cause it to return < 0 right away |
| 11:28.41 | cncfanatics | (oh, and change debug back to print, if I enable debugging I get all fb's debugging output too) |
| 11:28.47 | cryogen | haha |
| 11:28.52 | cryogen | i removed the debugs now |
| 11:28.56 | cryogen | they are not helpful anymore |
| 11:29.20 | Tinyboom | lol: http://www.illwillpress.com/cham2.html |
| 11:29.59 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r611 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/50_51_Searing_Gorge.lua: let's not talk to a letter |
| 11:31.07 | cryogen | local timeEnd = timeLeft and (timeLeft > 0) and (timeNow + timeLeft) or nil |
| 11:31.17 | cryogen | that just sets it to timeLeft right? |
| 11:31.22 | cryogen | assuming those initial conditions hold |
| 11:31.43 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r51367 10EveryQuest/ (EveryQuest.toc Everyquest.lua): EveryQuest: - Updated file properties to add revision/date |
| 11:31.52 | cncfanatics | what is timeLeft equal to ? |
| 11:32.04 | cryogen | im asking from a lua point of view |
| 11:32.04 | cncfanatics | ur declaring timeEnd there |
| 11:32.09 | cryogen | i dont quite get what that line of code does |
| 11:32.17 | cryogen | the ands and ors confuse me |
| 11:32.26 | cncfanatics | ok |
| 11:32.43 | cncfanatics | that will set timeEnd to timeNow + timeLeft if timeleft is not nil and is bigger then 0 |
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| 11:32.48 | cncfanatics | else it will set it to nil |
| 11:32.48 | cryogen | ah |
| 11:32.55 | cryogen | then what i do should be right, hmm |
| 11:33.17 | cncfanatics | the thing in aura is the time the buff will end ? |
| 11:33.23 | cryogen | yes |
| 11:33.36 | cryogen | i think im indexing into the array wrong though |
| 11:33.43 | cncfanatics | them auradurationthingy - GetTime(); should get u the duration I think |
| 11:33.43 | cryogen | i think aura indexes are not wow indexes |
| 11:33.54 | cryogen | ye.. thats handlded by update tho |
| 11:33.57 | cncfanatics | why are u using indexes ? it takes a texture |
| 11:34.04 | cryogen | it does? :) |
| 11:34.09 | cryogen | that'll be it then |
| 11:34.11 | cncfanatics | vars.buffs.player.duration.Icon |
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| 11:35.27 | cryogen | i dont think it does |
| 11:35.41 | cncfanatics | ok, I'll make sure |
| 11:36.08 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.12 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.23 | cncfanatics | this gives me IconTexturePath (whatever that may be) = somenumber |
| 11:36.41 | cncfanatics | actualy, no wait |
| 11:36.43 | cncfanatics | it ain't |
| 11:37.02 | cryogen | dump vars.buffs.player |
| 11:37.13 | cncfanatics | the key is BuffName_BuffRank_BuffTexture |
| 11:37.21 | cryogen | ah |
| 11:37.31 | cryogen | that makes a certain amount of sense |
| 11:37.50 | cryogen | -- debuffs are the same if their name, rank, and icon are the same |
| 11:37.51 | cryogen | local debuffIndex = string_format("%s_%s_%s", name, rank, icon) |
| 11:37.52 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r51368 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: add some commented out code with hints on how to fix the mod properly. Someone who does Black Morass more often than me can look at it and fix it. |
| 11:37.56 | cryogen | lemmie fix |
| 11:38.00 | cncfanatics | doesn't aura provide a func to get info from that table ? |
| 11:38.04 | cncfanatics | it should |
| 11:38.13 | cryogen | not that i can see |
| 11:38.55 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 11:38.59 | cncfanatics | one second |
| 11:39.03 | do3mca | i wish there was a way to test mods without starting wow each time |
| 11:39.26 | cncfanatics | UnitHasBuff returns name, rank, icon and index |
| 11:39.28 | cncfanatics | just use info from there |
| 11:39.35 | cncfanatics | and seperate them with a _, and u got the table key u need |
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| 11:40.29 | cncfanatics | actualy it returns index, count, name, rank |
| 11:40.32 | cncfanatics | u got the icon already anyway |
| 11:41.51 | cryogen | it returns -- index; count, icon, rank :p |
| 11:42.07 | cncfanatics | ah yea ups |
| 11:42.12 | cncfanatics | why doesn't it return the name ? -.- |
| 11:42.21 | cryogen | nil_nil_icon is fune tho |
| 11:42.22 | cryogen | fine* |
| 11:42.52 | cncfanatics | how will u get duration that way ? |
| 11:43.06 | cryogen | its how UnitHasBuff works, so its all good |
| 11:43.25 | cryogen | or, does it store the more specific info under name and rank too? |
| 11:43.31 | cncfanatics | na |
| 11:43.37 | cncfanatics | just make it work :p |
| 11:43.39 | cryogen | :) |
| 11:44.15 | cryogen | ok try that |
| 11:44.16 | cryogen | same name |
| 11:45.13 | Pkekyo | anyone know the release date for The Orange Box? |
| 11:45.25 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51369 10BigWigs/ (BlackTemple/Illidan.lua SC/Hydross.lua): BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 11:45.26 | cncfanatics | 32 december, Pkekyo :p |
| 11:45.38 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: how 'bout no? |
| 11:46.12 | Fritti | can anyone point me to the threads about embeds.xml etc? is there a wiki overview page? |
| 11:46.15 | Fritti | I can't seem to find any docs |
| 11:46.24 | Fritti | libs.xml / embeds.xml / .toc standard |
| 11:46.34 | cncfanatics | [2007/10/08 13:48:12-684-x8]: FlexBar2_BuffDur\BuffDur.lua:37: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 11:47.06 | cncfanatics | u can't format with nil cryogen :p |
| 11:47.08 | cryogen | mmm |
| 11:47.13 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: you're off by 83 days >.< |
| 11:47.15 | cryogen | im sure aura does :p |
| 11:47.20 | cncfanatics | no it doesn't |
| 11:47.28 | cryogen | oh |
| 11:47.30 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, I'm off by infinite days, my date doesn't exist ? |
| 11:47.31 | cryogen | no it doesnt :p |
| 11:47.56 | cryogen | it does a pairs on 102.c |
| 11:47.56 | cryogen | c:\p4\mul6\include\dbman.h(84) : error C2059: syntax error : 'type' |
| 11:47.56 | cryogen | c:\p4\mul6\include\dbman.h(85) : error C2059: syntax error : 'type' |
| 11:47.56 | cryogen | 102 - 2 error(s), 0 warning(s) |
| 11:47.58 | cryogen | oops |
| 11:48.01 | cryogen | thats real work :p |
| 11:48.10 | cryogen | pairs(unitBuffs.index) |
| 11:48.13 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: true, but operating out of (VERY) simple maths here, you're 83 days off |
| 11:48.29 | cryogen | it searches itself, i guess i can do the same |
| 11:48.37 | Pkekyo | well, 82 days actually |
| 11:48.38 | cncfanatics | yea, just match the icon |
| 11:48.41 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51370 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 11:48.53 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u shldnt code in c & in lua at once imo :p |
| 11:49.05 | cryogen | heh |
| 11:49.10 | cryogen | the syntax error in c wasnt mine :p |
| 11:49.15 | cryogen | i was copy/pasting it into an email :p |
| 11:49.20 | cncfanatics | ah |
| 11:49.22 | cncfanatics | l2window |
| 11:49.22 | Pkekyo | hmm...100$ for 20 games a decent deal? |
| 11:49.51 | cncfanatics | depends on what platform I guess Pkekyo, and if u have bandwith to dl em for free |
| 11:50.10 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: computer, free bandwidth |
| 11:50.38 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, anything above the price of the cd's/dvd's is too much then imo :p I'd download them |
| 11:50.41 | siIentium | c64 is a computer too ;) |
| 11:51.28 | cryogen | seriously, who came up with the syntax highlighting colours for lua in vim? |
| 11:51.29 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: that would lose you multiplayer priviledges on all 20 of the games |
| 11:51.33 | cryogen | retarded colour s:p |
| 11:51.50 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, true enough, if ur intrested in multiplayer its a very good deal then |
| 11:52.09 | cncfanatics | cryogen, ur theme most probably |
| 11:52.14 | cncfanatics | cryogen, inkpot colors are fine |
| 11:52.45 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: only 16 of them are multiplayer games, but still... |
| 11:52.57 | Pkekyo | http://steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=package&SubId=478&cc=NO :> |
| 11:53.00 | SunTsu | cryogen: Just use a different color theme |
| 11:53.01 | cryogen | i dont have inkpot |
| 11:53.05 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, I personaly barely ever multiplayer, so it wouldn't bother me |
| 11:53.26 | cncfanatics | http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1143 for inkpot cryogen |
| 11:53.38 | SunTsu | cryogen: There are bazillion themes, use the one that fits you best, or make your own |
| 11:53.44 | Pkekyo | I've been stuck inside TF2 for days now :p |
| 11:54.08 | cncfanatics | only MP I player is WoW :p |
| 11:54.12 | cncfanatics | actualy, the only game I play is WoW |
| 11:54.18 | Zhinjio | Is there a "tab" character when spitting out formatted strings to the chat frame? |
| 11:54.23 | Zhinjio | like \t or whatever? |
| 11:54.56 | Pkekyo | http://steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=9180&cc=NO <--- full of win and awesome |
| 11:55.17 | SunTsu | cryogen: :help colorscheme BTW |
| 11:56.35 | cryogen | ya im just used to the console version |
| 11:56.45 | cryogen | my .vimrc has a ton of remapped syntax highlighting colours |
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| 11:57.10 | cryogen | inkpot is slightly better |
| 11:57.29 | cryogen | cncfanatics: going for lunch, new diff after :) |
| 11:57.30 | cncfanatics | inkpot is full of win |
| 11:57.38 | cryogen | or wait |
| 11:57.41 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u shld install wow at work :p |
| 11:57.51 | cncfanatics | u'd work even less then u do atm xD |
| 11:58.05 | cryogen | new diff up |
| 11:58.13 | cryogen | fix ti after lunch if it doesnt work :p |
| 11:58.16 | SunTsu | cryogen: I use the console version, so what? |
| 11:58.20 | cryogen | haha, i do too little as it is |
| 11:58.39 | cryogen | SunTsu: so ive never botherd to mess with it :) |
| 11:58.51 | cryogen | because in console, the defaults are fine |
| 11:59.23 | SunTsu | cryogen: Not for me. Comments used to be unreadable, dark blue on black |
| 11:59.24 | cryogen | (the bitch is that the window in windows is white background by default, which is annoying) |
| 11:59.47 | cryogen | anyway lunch! |
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| 12:02.56 | Stanzilla | http://lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_1 <- lmfao |
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| 12:05.22 | cncfanatics | cryogen, when ur back, |
| 12:05.22 | backbone | poijpoijpoijpoijpo |
| 12:05.23 | cncfanatics | [2007/10/08 14:06:58-688-x4]: FlexBar2_BuffDur\BuffDur.lua:48: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
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| 12:11.31 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r51371 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Added a notification of new addon (Demon) which will expire after 3 logins. |
| 12:17.16 | cryogen | cncfanatics: oh i didnt update it for debuffs yet, just comment out that line :p or better yet force TimeLeft to 0 |
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| 12:32.46 | CIA-12 | Postman: |
| 12:32.46 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW locale |
| 12:33.58 | frerich | Hi, does anybody know whether something fishy is going on with the webserver on http://armory.mmo-champion.com/? Ever second access to statically generated HTML pages on that site yield a 404, at least when I access the sites from our guilds forum. |
| 12:34.13 | frerich | It doesn't look at the referrer or something, does it? |
| 12:34.33 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51373 10CooldownCount/Locale.zhTW.lua: |
| 12:34.33 | CIA-12 | CooldownCount: |
| 12:34.33 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW |
| 12:34.54 | Bibi | frerich : checking with my sysadmin. |
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| 12:35.32 | kenlyric | looks like it might have issues. |
| 12:35.45 | kenlyric | oh, Bibi would know better than anyone :) |
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| 12:37.06 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51374 10sRaidFrames/locales/zhTW.lua: sRaidFrames: update zhTW (by forfan) |
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| 12:39.18 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51375 10ColaLight/Core.lua: |
| 12:39.18 | CIA-12 | ColaLight: |
| 12:39.18 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.43 | charon_ | morning |
| 12:42.19 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51376 10ClosetGnome_Banker/Banker.lua: |
| 12:42.19 | CIA-12 | ClosetGnome_Banker: |
| 12:42.19 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW (by forfan) |
| 12:43.23 | naenee | Has anyone experienced the problem of buttons not working, such as space to jump? |
| 12:43.48 | naenee | Hm. alt-tab seemed to help. |
| 12:44.01 | cryogen | alt tabbing sometimes makes Alt get stuck |
| 12:44.15 | cryogen | if you ever see anything strange with buttons or keys, mash all your modifiers :) |
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| 12:44.29 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51377 10cyCircled/locale/zhTW.lua: |
| 12:44.29 | CIA-12 | cyCircled: |
| 12:44.30 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW (by forfan) |
| 12:44.34 | naenee | I did, didn't help :P |
| 12:44.38 | cryogen | heh |
| 12:46.22 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51378 10ClassTimer/Locales/zhTW.lua: ClassTimer: update zhTW (by forfan) |
| 12:48.21 | kenlyric | sometimes you have to logout of the game. |
| 12:48.26 | kenlyric | my problem is usually with shift. |
| 12:48.39 | kenlyric | makes my mouse button for autorun not work :/ |
| 12:49.01 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51379 10lern2count/Locales/zhTW.lua: lern2count: update zhTW (by forfan) |
| 12:52.44 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51380 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: |
| 12:52.44 | CIA-12 | MobHealth3: |
| 12:52.44 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW (by forfan) |
| 12:53.03 | buu | Why the hell would you update from bleeding edge sources right before a raid? |
| 12:53.19 | Zicon | Masochism. |
| 12:54.04 | kenlyric | read the thread on EJ for an example of the idiots who think WAU is a release mechanism. |
| 12:54.11 | kenlyric | *stable |
| 12:55.01 | buu | kenlyric: That's what prompted the question. |
| 12:55.08 | buu | I guess people really don't understand it. |
| 12:55.34 | buu | I also love all the people saying things like "Just because you let other people download your mod now you have to spend the rest of your life supporting them!" |
| 12:55.37 | buu | Or similar. |
| 12:56.17 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51381 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua: ClosetGnome_OhNoes: update zhTW (by forfan) |
| 12:56.24 | kenlyric | well, my favorite is the people asking why you'd release something that's half finished, and how they expect everything in WAU to be stable. |
| 12:56.46 | buu | How dare code in a TRUNK be unstable! |
| 12:57.08 | buu | It's an impressive sense of entitlement. |
| 12:57.12 | kenlyric | I tried to inject reason into the thread, then just hoped it would die. |
| 12:57.26 | frerich | WAU == WowAceUpdater ? |
| 12:57.28 | buu | "SVN tags are just full copies of the source. Its really space in-efficient and horrible for back porting any fixes. Libraries and all would have to be saved. So almost all of the SVN tree would be copied for every tag since almost everything depends on some of the core libraries." |
| 12:57.30 | sylvanaar | i stopped reading last week - have they kept talking? |
| 12:57.33 | buu | That's so cute. |
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| 12:58.53 | frerich | Or can it do that already and I merely missed that option? :-) |
| 12:59.47 | buu | Presumably because they forgot to added it to WAU and most authors can't be bothered. |
| 12:59.50 | charon | *sigh* ... i study at the friggin swiss equivalent of the MIT and they fail to provide either stable networking or a working distributed storage system for our home directories. wtf. |
| 13:01.37 | sylvanaar | they could do everything at the server end, and host "stable" addons at stable.wowace.com, it'd work |
| 13:02.24 | sylvanaar | but trying to get a bunch of stubborn opinionated people to all do one thing is .. like .. hard |
| 13:03.19 | steev64 | lies |
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| 13:05.39 | buu | "No kidding, I know someone who uses a console application today, ~15 or so years after GUI came to the PC world" |
| 13:05.45 | buu | Holy shit! A console application! |
| 13:06.02 | buu | Truly we must heap scorn and derision upon this fellow. |
| 13:06.39 | frerich | Nah, he'll see the light after he gets out of school. |
| 13:07.37 | cryogen | buu: ye that cracked me up too |
| 13:07.44 | cryogen | buu: if svn did work that way, id be scared |
| 13:08.25 | buu | cryogen: The "full copies" bit? |
| 13:08.29 | cryogen | yes |
| 13:08.32 | buu | Yeah. |
| 13:08.34 | cncfanatics | buu, I use em all day ? :o |
| 13:08.37 | buu | "Your hobby takes on certain responsibilities to the users when it starts doing things like crashing the game client or rendering portions of the default UI un-usable because of addon taint. You broke it, you fix it. If you don't want that responsibility, then don't make your addon available to the public." |
| 13:08.38 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u back ? |
| 13:08.43 | buu | This is pure gold. |
| 13:08.46 | cncfanatics | u didn't remove ur format(string, nil, nil, Icon); yet |
| 13:08.48 | cryogen | yup, new diff up, enjoy |
| 13:09.08 | cncfanatics | buu, I'd say , fuck off, if you can't use it, don't you it |
| 13:09.22 | cryogen | i stopped reading that thread after a certain amount of stupidity |
| 13:09.46 | cryogen | EJ was good when noone knew about it |
| 13:09.51 | cryogen | now its the same as any other internet forum |
| 13:10.07 | cncfanatics | EJ is still quite above most forums |
| 13:10.14 | cncfanatics | what thread is that in buu ? |
| 13:10.17 | cryogen | not that thrad :D |
| 13:10.27 | cncfanatics | cryogen, remember me the url |
| 13:10.30 | cryogen | no clue |
| 13:10.34 | cryogen | was like 2 weeks ago i read it |
| 13:10.37 | cryogen | or you mean my url? |
| 13:10.52 | cryogen | http://pkl.net/~stu/debug.diff if so |
| 13:11.24 | cncfanatics | relogging mage |
| 13:11.26 | cncfanatics | it better work now |
| 13:11.29 | cryogen | :p |
| 13:11.30 | cncfanatics | :p |
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| 13:11.45 | cncfanatics | buu, what was the thread related to when that was posted ? thats a stupid comment |
| 13:12.00 | cryogen | it started as a "wtf is rock" thread |
| 13:12.11 | cryogen | then turned into a "ace sucks they dont have stable addons" |
| 13:12.19 | do3mca | hah |
| 13:12.20 | Industrial | <-- |
| 13:12.24 | Industrial | :p |
| 13:12.32 | buu | cncfanatics: Generic QQ at EJ forums. |
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| 13:12.39 | buu | http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t16019-rock_framework_ckknight/p4/ |
| 13:12.50 | cncfanatics | they're empty again Industrial |
| 13:12.56 | cncfanatics | but no lua error |
| 13:12.59 | cncfanatics | ups I mean cryogen |
| 13:13.04 | cryogen | huh |
| 13:13.21 | buu | I think the obvious solution here it to just add a giant popup when you launch WAU that says "HEY DUMBSHIT DON'T UPDATE BEFORE A RAID" |
| 13:13.29 | cncfanatics | all subs empty, they started out fine, when I started remapping they fucked cryogen |
| 13:13.48 | cryogen | buu: :D |
| 13:13.57 | cryogen | buu: 2 days later there would be a thread |
| 13:14.00 | cryogen | "remove this error" |
| 13:14.16 | buu | Sounds hilarious to me. |
| 13:14.26 | cryogen | and my boss just walked passed and took a rather keen interest in my screen |
| 13:14.30 | cryogen | i suppose id better do some more work |
| 13:14.35 | cncfanatics | lol cryogen :p |
| 13:14.40 | cncfanatics | work more on BuffDur indeed ! |
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| 13:15.35 | cryogen | cncfanatics: dump Aura.vars.buffs.player, is timeEnd set in them all? |
| 13:15.52 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I just relogged, damn you |
| 13:15.59 | cncfanatics | btw cryogen, what kind of job u do ? |
| 13:16.18 | cryogen | i code C/C# |
| 13:16.28 | cncfanatics | :o, not too boring |
| 13:16.36 | cncfanatics | what u working on ? |
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| 13:16.51 | cryogen | my company make hotel property management systems |
| 13:17.10 | cryogen | i wrote and maintain a thin gui client in c# |
| 13:17.41 | cryogen | server tells is what to display and where, client displays it |
| 13:18.07 | cryogen | other than that i work on general improvements and bugfixing on the main server side |
| 13:18.40 | Trell_ | 60 (!) new quests in dustwallow, its like xmas. |
| 13:18.51 | cncfanatics | cryogen funny thing is |
| 13:18.53 | cncfanatics | they work when I login |
| 13:18.57 | cryogen | they would |
| 13:18.58 | kenlyric | except they're in dustwallow |
| 13:18.58 | cncfanatics | but as soon as I remap they go empty |
| 13:19.04 | cryogen | thats right |
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| 13:19.15 | charon | probably 5 chains in 12 steps of "walk to X and talk to Y" |
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| 13:19.17 | cryogen | Trell_: 60?! |
| 13:19.27 | Trell_ | well, kenlyric, it isn't just that, im excited about the xp per level being lowered and quest xp raised |
| 13:19.32 | Trell_ | *xp needed per level |
| 13:19.36 | cryogen | is there new info on that? |
| 13:19.39 | cryogen | if so url me |
| 13:19.40 | Trell_ | i might finally get some alts to 70 |
| 13:19.47 | Trell_ | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1564.0 |
| 13:19.57 | kenlyric | I know. I have six alts betweeen 23-27 :) |
| 13:20.16 | cncfanatics | Rock("LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0").vars.buffs.player.duration is populated cryogen, it works when logging in but fails as soon as I remap |
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| 13:20.29 | cncfanatics | Trell_, I'm currently lvl'ing a rogue, that'll be heaven |
| 13:20.54 | cryogen | A good example of this change would be Stromgarde Keep in Arathi Highlands, which will become a solo friendly environment when patch 2.3 goes live. |
| 13:20.58 | cryogen | sweet |
| 13:21.02 | cncfanatics | ooooh |
| 13:21.05 | cncfanatics | cewl |
| 13:21.05 | Bibi | lolgrinding. |
| 13:21.09 | cryogen | cncfanatics: is timeEnd populated? |
| 13:21.11 | Bibi | same for Dire Maul probably |
| 13:21.18 | cncfanatics | cryogen, what u mean ? |
| 13:21.27 | Bibi | and deadmines, and tons of other spots |
| 13:21.33 | Bibi | pre-BC will become lolgrinding world ! |
| 13:21.36 | cryogen | cncfanatics: dump Aura.vars.buffs.player, is timeEnd set in them all? |
| 13:21.39 | do3mca | gode |
| 13:21.57 | cncfanatics | Rock("LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0").vars.buffs.player.duration u mean cryogen ? |
| 13:22.00 | do3mca | woops. ewindow |
| 13:22.14 | cncfanatics | that table is populated in the Name_Rank_Icon format as usual |
| 13:22.23 | kenlyric | not grinding, quests. |
| 13:22.30 | kenlyric | mobs won't give any additional xp, apparently. |
| 13:22.35 | buu | Heh |
| 13:22.38 | cryogen | no |
| 13:22.40 | cncfanatics | lemme checj timeEnd cryogen |
| 13:22.48 | cncfanatics | never noticed that existed :o |
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| 13:22.49 | cryogen | or ye, check endTime |
| 13:22.52 | cryogen | thats what im using |
| 13:23.04 | cryogen | they are retuning low instances too |
| 13:23.06 | cncfanatics | I guess it is, as it works on login but not after remapping |
| 13:23.07 | buu | My favorite was the analogy comparing releasing broken ace mods to feeding homeless people poison |
| 13:23.07 | cryogen | about frigging time :) |
| 13:23.22 | SunTsu | .o0( #linux.de from IRCNet is gouing strong here ) |
| 13:23.24 | kenlyric | buu: my favorite activity. |
| 13:23.25 | cryogen | its stupid to run for exampel rfk and have to kill all the gray mobs |
| 13:23.28 | SunTsu | going even |
| 13:23.29 | buu | kenlyric: Fuck yeah. |
| 13:23.41 | buu | kenlyric: Wait, releasing broken ace mods or the poison? |
| 13:23.46 | kenlyric | both |
| 13:23.49 | cryogen | Robes of Arugal new: +3 Spirit, +5 Stamina, +9 Intelligence, +12 Spell Damage |
| 13:23.49 | cryogen | woot |
| 13:24.02 | cryogen | robes of arugal getting their agi removed :p |
| 13:24.09 | buu | Holy shit |
| 13:24.10 | cncfanatics | its populated cryogen |
| 13:24.17 | cryogen | cncfanatics: weird |
| 13:24.22 | cncfanatics | cryogen, on login they work as I said, as soon as I hit shift it goes poof |
| 13:24.27 | kenlyric | cryogen: no!!!! |
| 13:24.27 | buu | cryogen: Are you serious? |
| 13:24.30 | kenlyric | my agility! |
| 13:24.32 | cryogen | buu: ye |
| 13:24.38 | cryogen | cncfanatics: on login the ActionChanged event isnt fired |
| 13:24.49 | cryogen | or it might be, but the buff events get fired so it all get set up |
| 13:24.55 | buu | cryogen: That's pretty huge. |
| 13:25.04 | cryogen | Smite's Reaver old: +2 Strength, +1 Stamina, +1 Spirit, 11.1 dps |
| 13:25.05 | cryogen | Smite's Reaver new: +2 Strength, +3 Stamina, +2 Hit Rating, 14.5 dps |
| 13:25.11 | cncfanatics | cryogen, it ain't fired |
| 13:25.15 | cncfanatics | I make it fire so I know :p |
| 13:25.22 | kenlyric | wonder if the darkmantle set will lose its defense bonus :( |
| 13:25.26 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ye exactly |
| 13:25.27 | cncfanatics | cryogen, they work at login though, it seems ur ActionChanged code messes it up |
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| 13:25.36 | cryogen | cncfanatics: thats what im trying to say :) |
| 13:25.45 | cncfanatics | cryogen, then fix it ^^ |
| 13:26.02 | do3mca | which plugin does nicely show lua errors? |
| 13:26.04 | cncfanatics | I get it already cryogen |
| 13:26.06 | cncfanatics | ur an idiot :p |
| 13:26.18 | cryogen | found it |
| 13:26.20 | cryogen | heh |
| 13:26.21 | cryogen | ye |
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| 13:26.22 | cryogen | oops |
| 13:26.24 | cncfanatics | cryogen, ur GetBuffDuration func is messed up |
| 13:26.26 | cncfanatics | Icon & icon |
| 13:26.27 | cryogen | i know :p |
| 13:26.42 | cncfanatics | I hope u code better then that in C xD |
| 13:26.46 | Peragor | Is there anyone here that can tell me how long it takes to get an account back and working? |
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| 13:27.01 | cryogen | fixed and updated the patch |
| 13:27.04 | hess | Hello. I was wondering if anyone knew where Buffalo2 did go? |
| 13:27.09 | cryogen | cncfanatics: in C i would have had a compile error :p |
| 13:27.11 | hess | cant find it on the website any longer |
| 13:27.15 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51383 10Taggle/localization.lua: |
| 13:27.15 | CIA-12 | Taggle: |
| 13:27.15 | CIA-12 | - change localization.lua to UTF8 format |
| 13:27.15 | CIA-12 | - added zhTW localization |
| 13:27.20 | cryogen | hess: its moved to a branch, it didnt work so well |
| 13:27.20 | cncfanatics | cryogen, true enough |
| 13:27.38 | cncfanatics | cryogen , ur making a diff or ? |
| 13:27.43 | cryogen | its already updated |
| 13:27.57 | hess | cryogen, I see |
| 13:28.06 | cryogen | hess: i guess it will return when the author has fixed it |
| 13:28.12 | Fisker-- | anyone know how you get the camera-range to exceed 50 yards again? |
| 13:28.16 | hess | So. does anyone know of another mod that handles the buffs of the target well? |
| 13:28.24 | cryogen | whats that addon call that lets you enable/disable addons in game? |
| 13:28.28 | cncfanatics | ACP |
| 13:28.39 | hess | ACP? |
| 13:28.57 | Peragor | Anyone know how long it takes to get an SVN account turned back on? I haven't used mine since late last year and it has since been disabled. |
| 13:29.18 | cncfanatics | cryogen, seems to work, it ain't instant anymore though, that damn delay is back |
| 13:29.18 | buu | Peragor: It generally takes about 2 hours after the check clears. |
| 13:29.36 | hess | cncfanatics was ACP a reply to my question or..? |
| 13:29.40 | cncfanatics | cryogen, nvm, same delay as highlights, thats not due to you |
| 13:29.44 | cncfanatics | hess, that was a reply to cryogen |
| 13:29.47 | Peragor | buu: bah! seriously any info would help |
| 13:29.49 | hess | okay |
| 13:29.50 | omega | cryogen: where did you read all the old -> new item stats? |
| 13:29.51 | cncfanatics | cryogen, seems to work now |
| 13:30.02 | cryogen | woot |
| 13:30.08 | hess | So |
| 13:30.10 | do3mca | badstu |
| 13:30.12 | cncfanatics | cryogen, now add buffs on the target :p |
| 13:30.19 | cryogen | ah |
| 13:30.20 | cryogen | thats you |
| 13:30.21 | cncfanatics | order should be buff on target then buff on yourself :) |
| 13:30.27 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I already added a highlight for it |
| 13:30.28 | cryogen | do3mca: hmm |
| 13:30.28 | do3mca | yes, thats me :) |
| 13:30.39 | cryogen | im sure i insulted you at least once in here before now :p |
| 13:30.50 | do3mca | no prob stu |
| 13:30.58 | hess | hum |
| 13:31.02 | cryogen | i knew the nick was familar |
| 13:31.09 | do3mca | i have +200 resistance on insults |
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| 13:31.15 | cncfanatics | only 200 ? |
| 13:31.16 | hess | anyone got a suggestion for me? Im looking for a mod to handle target buffs. |
| 13:31.17 | cncfanatics | we'll burn you then |
| 13:31.30 | do3mca | shit. gimme some rings to raise that |
| 13:32.11 | cncfanatics | hess, what are you exactly looking for ? |
| 13:32.17 | do3mca | what makes me ponder now, did blizz drop the limitation of lua skripts not being able to communicate via network? |
| 13:32.32 | cncfanatics | huh ? lua scripts have always been able to communicate |
| 13:32.32 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r51384 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Added frFR locale (thanks to Anyakfe from the EJ forums) |
| 13:32.37 | hess | Well I just want to be able to resize and move buffs on my target |
| 13:32.40 | cryogen | i think he means outside of wow |
| 13:32.43 | do3mca | yes |
| 13:32.44 | hess | I would like to be able to group them aswell |
| 13:32.47 | cryogen | and no i dont think they will ever allow that |
| 13:32.49 | cncfanatics | outside wow they can't no |
| 13:32.52 | cncfanatics | why would they ? |
| 13:33.00 | hess | and separate buffs ive put on, from other's and stuff like that |
| 13:33.10 | hess | but.. mainly move and resize target buffs |
| 13:33.14 | hess | thats what im looking for |
| 13:33.16 | do3mca | i would know a dozen of reasons |
| 13:33.26 | cncfanatics | hess, u mean the buff icons under ur unitframe ? |
| 13:33.31 | hess | yes |
| 13:33.44 | cncfanatics | do3mca, is there also one that would make it totaly foolproof so u can't get any data from outside ? |
| 13:33.50 | SunTsu | do3mca: And even more reasons to not allow that? ;) |
| 13:33.53 | cncfanatics | addons are suposed to not be able to communicate outside of the sandboxc |
| 13:33.56 | do3mca | SunTsu: ! |
| 13:34.03 | do3mca | SunTsu: indeed ;-) |
| 13:34.19 | do3mca | damn, it scares me how many wellknown faces i see here |
| 13:34.29 | cryogen | heh |
| 13:34.30 | SunTsu | do3mca: Me too ;) |
| 13:34.31 | cryogen | wow is a curse |
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| 13:34.36 | Fisker-- | so anyone knew about those camera distances? |
| 13:34.51 | omega | Fisker--: isn't it a cvar or something? |
| 13:34.57 | Fisker-- | yup |
| 13:34.58 | cncfanatics | do3mca, like ? :o |
| 13:35.00 | do3mca | stu: wow.curse.com? |
| 13:35.01 | Fisker-- | it's limited to 50 yards |
| 13:35.09 | Fisker-- | but there's a way to circumvent it |
| 13:35.15 | Fisker-- | atleast i read once there were |
| 13:35.16 | do3mca | cncfanatics: why to communicate? think thottbot live |
| 13:35.16 | cryogen | :) |
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| 13:35.32 | do3mca | cncfanatics: i only wonder how acp works without that |
| 13:35.36 | cryogen | thats also a reason why its a bad idea :) |
| 13:35.40 | cryogen | think bots :D |
| 13:35.59 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51385 10CooldownCount/Locale.zhTW.lua: |
| 13:35.59 | CIA-12 | CooldownCount: |
| 13:36.00 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW (by forfan) |
| 13:36.00 | do3mca | oooh. i could handle the AH from outside wow :) |
| 13:36.08 | cryogen | now that would be cool |
| 13:36.10 | hess | Anyone sitting on a old copy of Buffalo2? |
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| 13:36.25 | cryogen | hess: you can pick it up yourself from svn if you want it that bad |
| 13:36.35 | cryogen | but im fairly sure it was taken off trunk for a good reason |
| 13:36.40 | hess | dude whats svn? :D |
| 13:36.50 | cryogen | yeah, lets not go there |
| 13:36.54 | do3mca | haha |
| 13:36.56 | cryogen | find something else or wait for it to come back :) |
| 13:37.07 | hess | :/ |
| 13:37.22 | hess | common tell me about SVN :D |
| 13:37.25 | Fisker-- | bye tiem |
| 13:37.26 | cncfanatics | cryogen, /poke add targetbuff |
| 13:37.31 | Fisker-- | just forgot that i have a bus to catch |
| 13:37.34 | cryogen | i have to do *some* work today |
| 13:37.35 | cryogen | :p |
| 13:37.40 | cncfanatics | cryogen, k k :) |
| 13:37.44 | cncfanatics | I'll commit the current one to svn |
| 13:37.49 | SunTsu | do3mca: Wenn, use openvpn and vnc ;) Works for me ;) Just running around is not that easy - besides from keeing yelling "No, I'm no bot!" |
| 13:37.54 | SunTsu | Well even |
| 13:38.16 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51386 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/BuffDur.lua: FlexBar2_BuffDur: fix |
| 13:38.23 | cryogen | nice commit message :p |
| 13:38.41 | hess | cryogen: svn is your mod? |
| 13:38.47 | hess | someone tell me what this svn stuff is :P |
| 13:38.57 | cryogen | hess: its another way to get addons |
| 13:39.03 | hess | ah |
| 13:39.07 | cryogen | hess: but its mainly for developers |
| 13:39.12 | hess | ok |
| 13:39.13 | cryogen | unless you know what you are doing |
| 13:39.19 | cryogen | (which given that you dont know what it is, you dont :) |
| 13:39.22 | hess | im just a config0r.. not c0der :/ |
| 13:39.36 | hess | nope |
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| 13:39.51 | hess | i make my UI from ace adons. just config and put together |
| 13:40.04 | hess | but now without buffalo2 im having trouble with my target frame.. |
| 13:40.07 | buu | SVN is where all the bad add ons live. |
| 13:40.17 | hess | hehe |
| 13:40.19 | hess | so |
| 13:40.30 | hess | could someone do me a favor and use this SVN and get me buffalo2 :D |
| 13:41.37 | Grum | why cant you? |
| 13:41.59 | do3mca | hess: its not in trunk. didnt cryogen say so? :) |
| 13:42.26 | Grum | go download: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Buffalo2/ |
| 13:42.27 | hess | do3mca ok. |
| 13:42.33 | Grum | who cares you can still check it out |
| 13:42.52 | cryogen | Grum: the point is, it was probably taken off trunk for a pretty good reason :) |
| 13:43.13 | Grum | because the author sucks? HUHUHU? =) j/k |
| 13:43.18 | cryogen | :D |
| 13:43.20 | do3mca | heh |
| 13:43.24 | cryogen | why, did you write it? |
| 13:43.27 | cryogen | muhaha |
| 13:43.57 | cncfanatics | [2007/10/08 15:45:12-703-x5]: FlexBar2_BuffDur\BuffDur.lua:68: attempt to call global 'GetDebuffDuration' (a nil value) |
| 13:43.58 | cncfanatics | cryogen |
| 13:44.08 | Grum | nope, i could make that more efficient hehe |
| 13:44.45 | CIA-12 | 03nebelmond * r51387 10Rawrkitty/Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 13:44.45 | CIA-12 | Rawrkitty: |
| 13:44.45 | CIA-12 | - localization fix |
| 13:44.53 | cncfanatics | cryogne, I'll fix that error, if you don't mind |
| 13:45.11 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i hate lua |
| 13:45.14 | cryogen | yeah go ahead |
| 13:45.17 | hess | ok |
| 13:45.22 | hess | so there it is! buffalo2. |
| 13:45.33 | hess | now, how do I download? :P |
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| 13:45.49 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51388 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 13:45.59 | cncfanatics | cryogen, lua wins |
| 13:46.23 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Against the authors? :) |
| 13:46.56 | cryogen | apparently |
| 13:47.14 | do3mca | ah. i understand. acp requires the plugins to be there, it just activates/deactivates them. |
| 13:47.40 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51389 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Najentus.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 13:47.56 | cryogen | indeed |
| 13:48.00 | cryogen | which is what you wanted, sort of :) |
| 13:48.24 | do3mca | no. |
| 13:48.32 | do3mca | :) |
| 13:48.58 | do3mca | i just want something that can keep track of all the addons i want. which includes addons which are not under "ace control" |
| 13:49.01 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r51390 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:49.01 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 13:49.01 | CIA-12 | - frFR Update |
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| 13:49.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
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| 13:49.30 | buu | Hrm/ |
| 13:49.31 | cryogen | i thought you wanted to be able to try stuff out from within game? :p |
| 13:49.32 | do3mca | there are like 5 updater binaries. none of them can handle everything and at its best one shoots the other in the foot |
| 13:49.37 | do3mca | ah, that. |
| 13:49.39 | buu | Third party mod site ftw. |
| 13:49.47 | Zhinjio | quick question: it seems Ace defaults to your slash-command providing help. Can I switch that so no arguments toggles my main frame, and and argument of "help" provides the help? |
| 13:49.51 | Grum | hess: look on wowace.com and click on the left side menu on 'SVN' and then l2use-svn |
| 13:49.52 | cryogen | isnt there an updater that claims to do them all? |
| 13:50.01 | hess | Grym |
| 13:50.04 | hess | yea will do |
| 13:50.14 | hess | thanks alot everyone |
| 13:50.20 | hess | i now downloaded all the files from http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Buffalo2/ |
| 13:50.21 | do3mca | for example, i like NECB |
| 13:50.25 | hess | and now we will try it out :D |
| 13:50.40 | Ozguli` | hm.. is there any addon that gets player info from armory? |
| 13:50.51 | do3mca | or, to kill the argument - auctioneer NG! ;-) |
| 13:51.01 | cryogen | auctioneer++ |
| 13:51.11 | do3mca | cncfanatics: there you go |
| 13:51.19 | chexsum | curse has an addon that can install fies that are hosted there too |
| 13:51.19 | cncfanatics | do3mca ? |
| 13:51.23 | do3mca | 15:50 < Ozguli`> hm.. is there any addon that gets player info from armory? |
| 13:51.35 | do3mca | chexsum: yes. which has no reinstall option |
| 13:51.40 | chexsum | i use the curse client, wau and update clique manually |
| 13:51.51 | do3mca | install a plugin which it believes is installed already. |
| 13:51.52 | do3mca | \o/ |
| 13:51.54 | chexsum | yeah it needs some work |
| 13:52.12 | Ozguli` | would save time |
| 13:52.34 | do3mca | i shall grow up some standard. like these hlcoders devs when i told them that their plugin interaction sucks :D |
| 13:52.54 | do3mca | Ozguli`: you just proved something i said earlier. |
| 13:53.00 | Ozguli` | I did? |
| 13:53.17 | do3mca | Ozguli`: the plugin cant be done, as no lua script is allowed to do interaction with hosts outside of the wow game |
| 13:53.34 | Ozguli` | hmh... lame blizzard |
| 13:53.43 | do3mca | maybe, maybe not. :) |
| 13:53.58 | Ozguli` | I knwo the reason why it's like that |
| 13:54.21 | Ozguli` | maybe I'll just adblock all images & stuff from the armory site and have it lightweight |
| 13:54.25 | hess | Ok thanks all for helping... but buffalo2 does not work no. |
| 13:54.28 | hess | ./cry |
| 13:54.33 | SunTsu | .o0( and getting that work in a secure manner.. Why does suddenly the name Sisyphos come to my mind? ) |
| 13:54.40 | hess | So |
| 13:54.40 | do3mca | hehe |
| 13:54.52 | hess | When are one of you hotshots going to release a buffmod to replace buffalo2? |
| 13:54.53 | hess | :P |
| 13:54.57 | do3mca | so actually blizz should have coded some plugin bazar:-/ |
| 13:54.58 | chexsum | buffalo works for me but i dont use it |
| 13:55.10 | hess | yea buffalo works. but not buffalo2 |
| 13:55.15 | cryogen | do3mca: if they did, that would be tantamount to supporting our addons :) |
| 13:55.19 | hess | and buffalo only supports your buffs, not target buffs |
| 13:55.25 | do3mca | theyre paid for that |
| 13:55.28 | do3mca | lamers. :) |
| 13:55.46 | chexsum | i had a target buff list so i would have been using #2 |
| 13:56.10 | hess | currently there are no mods to sort and edit target buffs on wowace? |
| 13:56.17 | hess | one of you hotshots come up with something please |
| 13:56.19 | hess | quick! |
| 13:56.21 | chexsum | it had a bug that caused icons to be shown on the wrong buffs so i dumped it |
| 13:56.54 | hess | ye |
| 13:57.09 | hess | sand I cant find any mods to group/sort buffs out there |
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| 13:57.12 | hess | its sad :( |
| 13:57.20 | hess | I wish I was able to create.... |
| 13:57.45 | do3mca | cncfanatics: another useful thing wouldve been the DKP stuff. interactively query your online DKP Database |
| 13:58.18 | SunTsu | do3mca: Not using DKP at all would help there *ducks and runs away* |
| 13:58.23 | do3mca | i dont |
| 13:58.26 | cryogen | there are way around data gathering problems |
| 13:58.30 | do3mca | but alot of other people say thay need |
| 13:58.35 | cryogen | you just cant have live updates |
| 13:58.35 | do3mca | that |
| 13:58.40 | do3mca | stu: yah. |
| 13:58.50 | cryogen | which most time is fine |
| 13:58.52 | QuantumDelta | hmm :P |
| 13:58.56 | cryogen | lightheader for example, is teh awesome |
| 13:59.00 | cryogen | lightheaded* |
| 13:59.09 | do3mca | i dont argue that in most cases offline is fine. but online would be sugar. |
| 13:59.27 | SunTsu | do3mca: Well, there is no problem having a DKP database, just have it ingame and update an external database with an external tool |
| 13:59.31 | cryogen | costs/benefits tho i guess from blizzard's point of view |
| 13:59.37 | chexsum | hess, necb is nice for showing buffs |
| 13:59.47 | do3mca | <3 necb |
| 13:59.50 | hess | ah |
| 13:59.52 | hess | its on wowace? |
| 13:59.54 | do3mca | cryogen: sure. |
| 13:59.56 | cryogen | necb is a monster |
| 13:59.59 | chexsum | no |
| 13:59.59 | do3mca | hess: unfortunately, no |
| 14:00.08 | hess | :( |
| 14:00.09 | hess | ok |
| 14:00.21 | cncfanatics | do3mca, or you could interactivly ask an online bot what to do next |
| 14:00.23 | sylvanaar | the clipboard can xfer data into and out of the game |
| 14:00.24 | cncfanatics | and let the bot play for you |
| 14:00.48 | do3mca | NECB manages it - unlike other plugins - to show how long the druid-tree-thingie is left |
| 14:01.01 | hess | :D |
| 14:01.03 | do3mca | cncfanatics: thats why they blocked it, i'd assume :) |
| 14:01.09 | hess | so I need to get into this SVN stuff to get NECB? |
| 14:01.22 | chexsum | no necb isnt an ace addon |
| 14:01.25 | do3mca | no. NECB isnt affiliated with ace at all |
| 14:01.31 | hess | ok |
| 14:01.34 | hess | its on curse? |
| 14:01.34 | sylvanaar | what is the druid-tree-thingy |
| 14:01.35 | cryogen | do3mca: druid-tree-thingie? |
| 14:01.38 | do3mca | look it up on curses |
| 14:01.51 | chexsum | its one of the few non ace mods i still use |
| 14:01.52 | hess | did, didnt find anything like necb |
| 14:01.56 | hess | someone find me a link plz |
| 14:02.02 | do3mca | hess: "nature enemy cast bar" |
| 14:02.10 | hess | ah |
| 14:02.10 | cryogen | i havent used necb in some time |
| 14:02.11 | hess | hum |
| 14:02.13 | do3mca | mom, need to look up the english name |
| 14:02.13 | SunTsu | hess: Just even googling for necb does the trick |
| 14:02.17 | cryogen | i have classtimers for tracking debuffs |
| 14:02.21 | hess | sounds more like a castbar mod then a buff mod? |
| 14:02.21 | chexsum | its called natur Enemy Castbar on curse i think |
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| 14:02.50 | cryogen | and now with teh awesomeness that is flexbar2_buffdur, i dont even need those <3 |
| 14:03.00 | hess | ah |
| 14:03.02 | chexsum | yeah it is but its a lot better to look at than a debuff list |
| 14:03.02 | hess | looks cool |
| 14:03.08 | hess | ill get necb for sure |
| 14:03.20 | cryogen | chexsum: with flexbar2_buffdur you can see the DoT timer on your action button :D |
| 14:03.23 | hess | um yeah |
| 14:03.24 | hess | but |
| 14:03.35 | chexsum | its awesome for tracking cooldowns like cloak of shadow etc too |
| 14:03.41 | hess | do I see ALL buffs on a target with necb? or it just shows bars over the buffs ive cast on it? |
| 14:03.50 | SunTsu | Looks great, yes, but I can't stand some more bars by now. I first need a bigger screen |
| 14:03.55 | chexsum | very accurate too |
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| 14:04.06 | buu | Hrm. |
| 14:04.16 | chexsum | epends how many people have it in your group |
| 14:04.17 | do3mca | cryogen: "force of nature" |
| 14:04.24 | do3mca | balance tree |
| 14:04.53 | chexsum | it can share information with other necb users if you turn it on |
| 14:04.54 | cryogen | classtimer doesnt pick it up? |
| 14:05.25 | do3mca | classtimer? didnt check *that* i mean, ofcourse i didnt check all plugins, but those ive seen didnt |
| 14:05.47 | cryogen | reason i use classtimer is because its ace so i can change the bar texture to match all the other crap in my ui |
| 14:05.53 | chexsum | force of nature = free smites imho |
| 14:06.14 | cryogen | i really hope they release 2.3 soon |
| 14:06.19 | cryogen | fast levelling of alts ftw |
| 14:06.25 | SunTsu | I keep turning calss timer off, because I keep having problems with it |
| 14:06.30 | do3mca | chexsum: free smites? |
| 14:06.32 | SunTsu | class timer even |
| 14:07.09 | chexsum | yeah 3 enemies = about 50% chance at a free smite when i holy nova :P |
| 14:07.59 | cryogen | do3mca: ah! the trees, gotcha |
| 14:08.06 | cryogen | kinda like water elemental and shadowfiend |
| 14:08.13 | cryogen | i think someone in her wrote an addon to track those at one point |
| 14:08.23 | cryogen | classtimers should be enhanced to monitor them though |
| 14:08.23 | chexsum | i oathe water elementals |
| 14:08.31 | chexsum | they do 250dps |
| 14:08.49 | do3mca | the treants do ~180 each, i think |
| 14:08.50 | Grum | chexsum: did they fix it? is the smite free and non-chaining? |
| 14:08.53 | chexsum | thats like a lvl 60 mage |
| 14:09.20 | do3mca | but only for 30 seconds and only every soandso minutes and their armor is pretty weak |
| 14:09.24 | chexsum | its fixed now - its always free and never crits |
| 14:09.34 | cryogen | they fixed it? :( |
| 14:09.38 | cryogen | was fun to crit with it |
| 14:09.45 | chexsum | treants only last 10s or something though |
| 14:09.50 | cryogen | i noticed though that the res bug still isnt fixed |
| 14:09.57 | do3mca | 30s |
| 14:10.21 | do3mca | its enough to let em beat up 2 mobs with 2 or three DoTs added |
| 14:10.34 | chexsum | i miss the old sol for pvp but the new sol is great for pve dps |
| 14:11.39 | Grum | cryogen: was fun but the cost in mana sucked |
| 14:11.44 | Grum | you only used your mana faster |
| 14:11.46 | chexsum | yea |
| 14:12.15 | cryogen | true |
| 14:12.18 | chexsum | its lame how it cant crit but if youve got good damage its still an instant 1k dmg |
| 14:12.24 | Grum | so fun having a chain of 7 .. and loosing 60% of your mana ^^ |
| 14:12.42 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51391 10FlexBar2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): FlexBar2: Tweaked the State abstraction system |
| 14:12.43 | cryogen | gotta love the mana "efficiency" of disc/holy |
| 14:12.48 | elusif | won't it be cool when we can make goblin characters? |
| 14:12.49 | cncfanatics | cryogen, can u gimme a ping when ur home ? |
| 14:12.51 | cryogen | cncfanatics: did you commit my fix? |
| 14:12.56 | cryogen | ye will do |
| 14:13.01 | cryogen | s/my/you/ |
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| 14:13.10 | Grum | i will love it when priests get that 33% dmg from healing |
| 14:13.19 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51392 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/BuffDur.lua: FlexBar2_BuffDur: Fixed a nil bug |
| 14:13.23 | cncfanatics | cryogen, there ;) |
| 14:13.24 | Grum | free 600dmg ftw :) |
| 14:13.24 | cryogen | ty |
| 14:13.27 | Xinhuan | i will pick up uber healing gear for my mage set |
| 14:13.31 | chexsum | yea goodbye damage set imho |
| 14:13.40 | kenlyric | no. |
| 14:13.52 | Grum | Xinhuan: hahaha for some pieces having healing gear might even be better |
| 14:14.03 | Xinhuan | that's what i'm thinking |
| 14:14.10 | Xinhuan | like +81 healing -> +27 damage? |
| 14:14.14 | Xinhuan | its cheaper i think |
| 14:14.14 | Grum | yup ^^ |
| 14:14.15 | Xinhuan | lolz |
| 14:14.17 | kenlyric | you'll still want damage pieces, but you just won't be as dependent on them. |
| 14:14.18 | cryogen | mages rolling on healing gear would be so awesomely funny |
| 14:14.19 | Xinhuan | for an enchant |
| 14:14.30 | Grum | mm 8 primal mana, 8 primal water and 8 shards |
| 14:14.40 | chexsum | dmg never has mp5 |
| 14:14.42 | Grum | erm primal life for the first |
| 14:14.45 | Xinhuan | hmm maybe not cheaper then |
| 14:14.48 | cncfanatics | won't happen |
| 14:14.54 | cncfanatics | healing costs twice as much as dmg on the item budget |
| 14:14.55 | Grum | no but mages in full cloth healing would have IMBA regen ^^ |
| 14:15.03 | cryogen | lol |
| 14:15.09 | cncfanatics | healing gives twice as much healing as damage for the same item budget I mean |
| 14:15.10 | cryogen | and no spell crit :) |
| 14:15.11 | cryogen | or hit |
| 14:15.11 | chexsum | i think its only for priests |
| 14:15.17 | cryogen | 0% hit :D |
| 14:15.19 | Grum | having 300mp5 while casting ..rawr ^^ |
| 14:15.21 | cncfanatics | chexsum, no, its actual items that will give spelldmg too |
| 14:15.37 | Grum | easily checked |
| 14:15.39 | kenlyric | actually, it's less than twice as much. |
| 14:16.33 | Grum | lol... wowhead is broken for me O.o |
| 14:17.13 | baer_ | damnit... |
| 14:17.28 | hess | :/ |
| 14:17.38 | baer_ | how does spell haste work for wlocks? |
| 14:17.53 | kenlyric | I still don't imagine you'll prefer your healing gear in every case, particularly when you're solo. |
| 14:17.55 | cryogen | for which spell? |
| 14:18.05 | kenlyric | assuming you can get equivalent ilevel damage gear. |
| 14:18.15 | chexsum | t speeds up shadowbolt casts and drain spells |
| 14:19.44 | chexsum | +hit will increase a locks dps more than anything |
| 14:19.54 | cncfanatics | +hit owns everything for all classes till the cap |
| 14:19.55 | cncfanatics | or nearly |
| 14:22.24 | *** join/#wowace Crysli (i=Tasma@0x50c7a29a.bynxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 14:22.33 | Crysli | Afternoon. |
| 14:23.57 | CIA-12 | 03clovenhoof * r51393 10RootsBidder/ (. RootsBidder.lua RootsBidder.toc): |
| 14:23.57 | CIA-12 | RootsBidder: |
| 14:23.58 | CIA-12 | - Updated toc |
| 14:23.58 | CIA-12 | - Added Class based Colouring to raid overview |
| 14:24.15 | Crysli | I have a problem with eePanels. I've imported a custom texture, and even though it's just a simple, black panel, there is a bit of white around it. ANyone got an idea what that might be? |
| 14:26.03 | hess | Guys im really having a problem here |
| 14:26.07 | hess | ./cry |
| 14:26.34 | hess | I need something to show buffs on my target frame. Suggestions please |
| 14:26.58 | Crysli | hess: I think Quartz, ElkBuffBars and Pitbull does that. |
| 14:27.13 | hess | I have pitbull unitframes |
| 14:27.30 | Higdur | then you just need to configure it |
| 14:27.35 | Trell_ | enable Auras |
| 14:27.39 | Trell_ | on target |
| 14:27.48 | hess | problem is I have a area I need them to fit into |
| 14:27.58 | hess | yeah, I can have those auras. I have alt-aura too |
| 14:28.13 | hess | but. they are not moveable.. i cant move the auras |
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| 14:29.04 | Crysli | hess: ElkBuffbars kan display target buffs in bars. |
| 14:29.20 | Higdur | iirc you can only set an anchor to left/right/top/bottom in pitbull |
| 14:29.34 | Trell_ | even inside if you want to |
| 14:29.48 | Higdur | think that's what he wants |
| 14:29.53 | hess | hum |
| 14:30.00 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51394 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/BuffDur.lua: FlexBar2_BuffDur: Fixed a nil bug |
| 14:30.05 | hess | i wish I could show you a screenshot of the UI i built |
| 14:30.13 | Trell_ | why cant you? |
| 14:30.15 | Higdur | do so :) |
| 14:30.24 | hess | if someone had a ftp i could put it on |
| 14:30.32 | Trell_ | whats wrong with image shack |
| 14:30.36 | Higdur | imageshack or the like? |
| 14:30.37 | cryogen | cncfanatics: another? :p |
| 14:30.39 | Trell_ | or any of the millions of other free image hosting sites |
| 14:30.49 | hess | ok |
| 14:30.52 | hess | imageshack.com? |
| 14:31.04 | Trell_ | or .us |
| 14:31.09 | Trell_ | just any image hosting site |
| 14:31.34 | hess | dont know of any |
| 14:31.56 | Trell_ | imageshack.us |
| 14:31.59 | Crysli | You do now :) |
| 14:32.06 | Kain____ | has anyone had trouble w/ xloot frames where it like expands all the way to the edge of your screen? |
| 14:32.19 | hess | im in there |
| 14:32.24 | Higdur | Kain____: yeah, had that last night when raiding |
| 14:32.24 | hess | where do I go to upload a image? |
| 14:32.28 | Trell_ | 103,000,000 results for 'image hosting', takes two seconds; google is your friend. |
| 14:33.00 | Kain____ | Hidgur: any idea how to fix that? |
| 14:33.03 | Trell_ | actually, not 2 seconds, it took 0.42, but thats by the by |
| 14:33.14 | hess | image shack wants me to register webhotel and shit |
| 14:33.16 | Crysli | hess: There's a button with the text 'browse' - click that one and find your image |
| 14:33.17 | hess | no free image hostings? |
| 14:33.26 | Higdur | Kain____: nope |
| 14:33.40 | Kain____ | you dont need to register on imageshack.us just put in a bogus email |
| 14:33.48 | hess | Crysli cant see it.. |
| 14:34.02 | Trell_ | http://imageshack.us/ |
| 14:34.05 | Trell_ | click browse |
| 14:34.08 | hess | ye |
| 14:34.11 | Trell_ | locate your image |
| 14:34.16 | Trell_ | type any old crap in for an email |
| 14:34.17 | hess | i klick image hosting on the front page |
| 14:34.22 | Trell_ | click 'host it!' |
| 14:34.32 | hess | see |
| 14:34.35 | hess | there is no browse button |
| 14:35.05 | Trell_ | http://imageshack.us/ - a button is there saying browse... right next to a text box |
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| 14:35.18 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51395 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/BuffDur.lua: FlexBar2_BuffDur: Fixed a nil bug |
| 14:35.53 | hess | we must not see the same site... |
| 14:35.54 | hess | weird |
| 14:36.02 | Trell_ | lol. |
| 14:36.23 | Trell_ | http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cowtip3dx0.jpg |
| 14:36.28 | Trell_ | took me all of 45seconds. |
| 14:36.41 | hess | well |
| 14:36.50 | do3mca | takes me 2 minutes to load the pic |
| 14:36.55 | hess | i get a bunch of options on the main site |
| 14:36.58 | hess | i choose image hosting |
| 14:36.59 | Trell_ | only cos imageshack sucks ass |
| 14:37.07 | hess | and I get to another site, wich links to 15 other sites |
| 14:37.12 | hess | none actually host a image... |
| 14:37.14 | hess | just adds |
| 14:37.17 | Trell_ | hess; you're doing it wrong then |
| 14:37.33 | Trell_ | http://www.imageshack.us/ <--- click that link. |
| 14:37.34 | Crysli | Trell: Get MailFu tbh |
| 14:37.41 | Trell_ | theres a text box there |
| 14:37.49 | Trell_ | with a button saying Browse... right next to it |
| 14:37.52 | Trell_ | click the browse button |
| 14:37.57 | hess | no its not |
| 14:37.58 | hess | lol |
| 14:37.58 | Trell_ | enter any old email in the box below it |
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| 14:38.38 | Trell_ | *runs off to check out MailFu* |
| 14:38.41 | hess | there is no box |
| 14:38.48 | hess | except for a search box |
| 14:38.49 | Crysli | hess: http://tinypic.com/ |
| 14:39.04 | hess | there we go |
| 14:39.06 | hess | seems alot better |
| 14:39.41 | hess | uploading |
| 14:40.11 | Trell_ | Crysli: is it actually called MailFu? |
| 14:40.18 | hess | http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=nefe9v&s=2 |
| 14:40.20 | Trell_ | cant see it on WAU under mailfu, nor fubar_mailfu |
| 14:40.22 | hess | ok there is my UI |
| 14:40.25 | Crysli | Trell: Fubar_MailFu, iirc |
| 14:40.46 | hess | and as u can see the free area bellow my target unitframe. id like to see target buffs/debuffs. |
| 14:41.01 | Trell_ | easy hess |
| 14:41.07 | Trell_ | just set pitbull target auras to below |
| 14:41.17 | hess | yeah |
| 14:41.21 | hess | but |
| 14:41.24 | Crysli | trell: Try visiting files.wowace.com - it shows there |
| 14:41.26 | Trell_ | and you can size/scale them too |
| 14:41.26 | hess | they are not customizeable |
| 14:41.32 | Trell_ | customisable how? |
| 14:41.38 | hess | I need to seperate buffs that I put on the target, from all the other ones |
| 14:41.40 | hess | somehow |
| 14:41.42 | hess | in that area |
| 14:41.59 | Trell_ | iirc theres a box that allows you to seperate buffs/debuffs and also ones that you can buff/debuff |
| 14:42.25 | cryogen | pitbull allows you to move auras does it not? |
| 14:42.36 | hess | really? |
| 14:42.43 | cryogen | id be surprised if it didnt |
| 14:42.45 | cryogen | never tried though |
| 14:42.51 | hess | i can just choose location |
| 14:42.58 | hess | and wether so seperate buffs from debuffs or not |
| 14:43.03 | Trell_ | yes |
| 14:43.43 | Higdur | but he wants to drag out his own dots so that he can see easily what he has casted I guess |
| 14:44.27 | cryogen | cncfanatics: btw, do you have an easy way to make a debuff end on a target prematurely? |
| 14:44.31 | hess | ye |
| 14:44.44 | cryogen | also, i think refreshing debuff durations will not work |
| 14:44.49 | hess | i just want to see what dots I have up on the target |
| 14:44.59 | hess | separated from other players dots |
| 14:45.03 | cncfanatics | cryogen, what u mean ? |
| 14:45.13 | Trell_ | hess; try ClassTimer |
| 14:45.18 | Trell_ | or erm...Natur is it? |
| 14:45.28 | Trell_ | ive only ever used Classtimer, its fine for my wishes |
| 14:45.29 | hess | I have it. but it creates bars |
| 14:45.33 | Trell_ | and? |
| 14:45.36 | hess | and I dont want bars all over my ui |
| 14:45.36 | hess | :D |
| 14:45.36 | Trell_ | you can scale them too |
| 14:45.40 | alext | have you tried dotimer? |
| 14:45.43 | Trell_ | so they arent bars |
| 14:45.43 | hess | then I cant see |
| 14:45.47 | Trell_ | >_< |
| 14:45.53 | hess | I want normal buff icons |
| 14:46.02 | chexsum | dotimet can show jsut icons |
| 14:46.02 | Trell_ | have classtimer set to icons shown, and the size of bars at 0.01 |
| 14:46.07 | chexsum | dotimer |
| 14:46.08 | hess | alext |
| 14:46.08 | hess | ye |
| 14:46.13 | hess | one problem with dotimer |
| 14:46.20 | hess | it only shows mine |
| 14:46.21 | cryogen | cncfanatics: like, if you poly something, and then break the sheep |
| 14:46.25 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i think the timer will still tick |
| 14:46.29 | alext | <hess> i just want to see what dots I have up on the target |
| 14:46.29 | alext | <hess> separated from other players dots |
| 14:46.30 | Trell_ | hess; thats what you said you wanted |
| 14:46.30 | alext | ? |
| 14:46.43 | hess | ok |
| 14:46.48 | alext | oh you want to see everything, but yours like spaced differently? |
| 14:46.48 | hess | i feel like im confusing you all |
| 14:46.53 | Trell_ | slightly |
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| 14:46.56 | Higdur | he wants to see all dots, but have his own easily seperatable |
| 14:47.02 | alext | yeah good luck on that |
| 14:47.02 | alext | ;[ |
| 14:47.07 | cryogen | cncfanatics: or if you sheep something, then resheep it to restart the timer, i think that will bug too |
| 14:47.08 | alext | i dont know anything that does that |
| 14:47.09 | hess | thats alot every one for helping out. its been helpful and I feel I have some content to work with now. |
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| 14:47.41 | cncfanatics | cryogen, you don't check on debuffs change ? |
| 14:48.00 | cncfanatics | actualy, I don't even know if thats possible :p |
| 14:48.13 | cncfanatics | it should be though for ur own buffs |
| 14:48.18 | chexsum | necb is flaweless for tracking your own buffs ;) |
| 14:48.27 | Trell_ | could I check to see if DP was on a target, and if so how many stacks? |
| 14:48.28 | chexsum | i use it when im shadow pew pewing |
| 14:48.33 | cncfanatics | UnitDebuffRefreshed event Cryogen |
| 14:48.33 | Trell_ | (of my own) |
| 14:48.42 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ya, thats my point, i havent implemented it yet |
| 14:48.47 | cryogen | so it will not currently work :) |
| 14:48.59 | cncfanatics | get it working asap xD |
| 14:49.02 | Crysli | So, now that hess has gotten some help, I'll try getting some too. Around my custom texture in eePanels, there is a little white. How do I remove that? |
| 14:49.06 | SunTsu | chexsum: Yes, and it takes up some more space |
| 14:49.15 | Crysli | Hold on, I'll try getting a screenshot |
| 14:49.19 | chexsum | necb tracks all buffs - i use it on my rogue also |
| 14:49.25 | Trell_ | is it from a border setting, Crysli? |
| 14:49.34 | chexsum | pft you can make it use less space |
| 14:49.55 | Trell_ | im considering attempting to write a simple addon that will pop a message up into parrot or somewhere on screen when theres 5 DP stacks and 5 CPs on my target |
| 14:49.58 | chexsum | self buffs only, shorten the bars etc |
| 14:50.04 | Crysli | Trell_: No, border is turned off. |
| 14:50.25 | Crysli | http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4038/artsyuivx2.jpg - it looks like the white on this, except mine's not supposed to be there. |
| 14:50.25 | SunTsu | chexsum: I am already running out of screen space by using pitbull only... |
| 14:50.44 | chexsum | o hwat i do and only view 3 raid groups lol |
| 14:50.55 | chexsum | everyone ele is on their own |
| 14:51.16 | Trell_ | something to do with your tga file? |
| 14:51.23 | Trell_ | thats about all I can think of im afraid |
| 14:51.42 | Trell_ | in PS I always trim about 1-2px off the image before saving |
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| 14:52.24 | Crysli | Trell_: Yeah, I tried doing that, but since most of it is only 2px wide, trimming it won't work. |
| 14:52.44 | chexsum | thats a nice looking ui |
| 14:53.07 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I thought those buff subs would be damn easy, seems they're harder then we first thought :p |
| 14:53.43 | Crysli | Hm... Would it work if I made the whole thing a few pixels bigger and then trimmed it? |
| 14:54.08 | cryogen | cncfanatics: but still easy :) |
| 14:54.33 | Trell_ | it could do Crysli |
| 14:54.45 | Trell_ | the reason I trim all my tga's before saving is to remove messy borders anyway |
| 14:55.03 | Crysli | I'll try. Thanks :D |
| 14:55.38 | do3mca | holy shit |
| 14:56.02 | do3mca | nice artwork though |
| 14:56.08 | chexsum | yea |
| 14:56.29 | Crysli | chexsum: No borders, but the semi-transparent white stuff around all the black. |
| 14:56.34 | cryogen | hey thats nice |
| 14:56.35 | chexsum | wish i could do something like that - all my graphics look like its done with ms paint |
| 14:57.13 | Crysli | lol |
| 14:58.21 | chexsum | so whos all going to see resident evil 3 :P |
| 14:59.44 | SunTsu | chexsum: I can't stand that horrible thing in there, my nerves actually too sensible to see Milla Jovovich |
| 15:00.17 | cncfanatics | cryogen, true enough, ur coding is just messy xD |
| 15:00.25 | cryogen | cncfanatics: oi |
| 15:00.26 | cryogen | fu! |
| 15:00.32 | SunTsu | And please, put the "are" where you think it fits best |
| 15:00.47 | cryogen | (but yea you're write, im tidying it up loads atm tho) |
| 15:00.59 | cncfanatics | i'm write ? |
| 15:01.02 | cncfanatics | s/write/right/ |
| 15:01.08 | cryogen | yeah that |
| 15:01.12 | cryogen | its monday |
| 15:01.14 | cryogen | leave me alone :p |
| 15:01.24 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 15:01.28 | cryogen | i'll set mc on you |
| 15:02.20 | cncfanatics | and when is Kaelten gonna give u ur damn svn acc |
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| 15:02.33 | cryogen | good question |
| 15:05.46 | do3mca | stu: setup your own repos and teach cnc how to svn merge |
| 15:05.57 | hess | Ok im fed up with this |
| 15:06.03 | hess | im remaking my entire ui's |
| 15:06.08 | cryogen | you think i can pursuade weasel to let me use the oftc one? :p |
| 15:06.15 | do3mca | haha |
| 15:06.15 | cryogen | no, i didnt think so :D |
| 15:06.22 | hess | I need some UI's too look at, and spawn ideas to a new one |
| 15:06.31 | do3mca | i can setup an svn+ssh repos |
| 15:06.33 | hess | anyone got a nice UI of theirs to show me a screen of |
| 15:06.44 | hess | plz link screenies |
| 15:06.54 | cryogen | well it will become moot as soon as Kaelten gets round to it, so its np :) |
| 15:06.59 | do3mca | https i fear, for lack of apache2 |
| 15:07.17 | cryogen | i dunno if its because hes lazy/busy or just doesnt like me tho :) |
| 15:07.31 | do3mca | lazyness is the root of everything |
| 15:07.45 | cryogen | true, id know |
| 15:08.06 | SunTsu | .o0( and one of the virtues of a perl programmer ) |
| 15:08.17 | kaiden | is EveryQuest supposed to be used in conjunction with QuestHistory or something |
| 15:08.22 | kaiden | i thought it was a standalone mod |
| 15:08.36 | hyperChipmunk | ~laziness |
| 15:08.37 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 15:08.49 | do3mca | stu: eh, nevermind |
| 15:08.52 | do3mca | lets fork ace |
| 15:09.08 | cryogen | good idea |
| 15:09.11 | cryogen | ace 2.5? |
| 15:09.37 | do3mca | spades |
| 15:09.38 | cryogen | oftc-ace! |
| 15:09.44 | do3mca | *gnicker* |
| 15:09.58 | do3mca | serving the open and free technology and wow community since .... |
| 15:10.05 | cryogen | imagine the userbase we would bring to weasel's door |
| 15:10.07 | do3mca | OFTWC :) |
| 15:10.09 | cryogen | hed love it |
| 15:10.44 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Ace3 * r51396 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Ace3 branch tweaks for ag` |
| 15:10.54 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51397 10FlexBar2/Action/Action.lua: FlexBar2: Fixed a bug where the autoattack Icon of druids would not change correctly on shapeshifts (damn druids ...) |
| 15:11.04 | cryogen | hhe |
| 15:11.09 | cryogen | make autoattack work plix :( |
| 15:11.33 | do3mca | druids > * |
| 15:11.47 | cryogen | poor ammo, it was cncfanatics flaming druids :p |
| 15:11.48 | Aeyan | Wrong one |
| 15:11.48 | *** kick/#wowace [do3mca!n=wouter@connected.dnd.utwente.nl] by [Ammo] (ammo > do3mca) |
| 15:11.49 | SunTsu | do3mca: it was cncfanatics' comment ;) |
| 15:12.03 | SunTsu | Ah, too late |
| 15:12.24 | [Ammo] | :) |
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| 15:12.51 | cryogen | heh |
| 15:12.53 | cryogen | poor mc |
| 15:12.55 | [Ammo] | pwned |
| 15:13.00 | do3mca | :< |
| 15:13.12 | do3mca | stu: we need to talk to someone to change the network |
| 15:13.15 | SunTsu | .o0( Reading seems to be an art ;) ) |
| 15:13.35 | do3mca | kill > kick :D |
| 15:13.39 | do3mca | SunTsu: indeed. |
| 15:13.54 | cryogen | i agree |
| 15:14.01 | cryogen | although i could just /kill ammo for you |
| 15:14.09 | cryogen | it would be the first and last oper action ive taken on freenode |
| 15:14.12 | cryogen | but ti would clearly be worth it |
| 15:14.21 | cncfanatics | cryogen, tell blizz to make god damn autoattack work |
| 15:14.22 | do3mca | no prob, ill talk to christel |
| 15:14.29 | cncfanatics | irritatates me as much as you |
| 15:14.35 | cryogen | cncfanatics: :) |
| 15:14.42 | do3mca | so. bad CNC! |
| 15:14.45 | cryogen | cncfanatics: my macro works, but i like my kitty paw icon! |
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| 15:14.57 | do3mca | kitty... paw... icon... |
| 15:15.00 | cryogen | if i do #show Attack it shows the stupid blizz guy |
| 15:15.00 | do3mca | uh, stu. |
| 15:15.03 | [Ammo] | cryogen: lucky my kick was done in jest :) |
| 15:15.19 | cryogen | [Ammo]: lucky my "threat" was too :) |
| 15:15.39 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:15.39 | Marli | lol druids |
| 15:15.43 | cryogen | i havent even bothered setting +o in about a month |
| 15:15.44 | do3mca | mh. now that all doesnt help me choose an esspressomachine. |
| 15:15.51 | SunTsu | Could you please stop being nice to each other? This is IRC at all! :) |
| 15:16.00 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.02 | SunTsu | s/at/after/ |
| 15:16.03 | cryogen | oops |
| 15:16.08 | SunTsu | purl: Ecaxtly |
| 15:16.28 | SunTsu | .o0( I really have problems writing today ) |
| 15:16.30 | cryogen | cncfanatics: damn you man, this is making my update code complicated |
| 15:17.15 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 15:17.16 | sag_ich_nicht | oO |
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| 15:18.22 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 15:18.26 | Xinhuan | i commented a block of code out |
| 15:18.28 | Xinhuan | and |
| 15:18.37 | Xinhuan | one of the commands in the block of code killed the comment |
| 15:18.39 | Xinhuan | local j = pathR[prune[a][m]]; |
| 15:18.40 | cncfanatics | cryogen, it is ? :o |
| 15:18.45 | Xinhuan | the ending ]] there lol |
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| 15:19.22 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ya, now i have to check target buff, then self buff, then target debuff |
| 15:19.26 | cryogen | complicated! |
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| 15:21.29 | cncfanatics | cryogen, poor guy |
| 15:21.42 | cncfanatics | u don't want to know how complicated FB is then :p |
| 15:21.46 | cncfanatics | if u call that complicated |
| 15:22.00 | CIA-12 | 03clovenhoof * r51398 10RootsBidder/ (. RootsBidder.lua RootsBidder.toc): |
| 15:22.00 | CIA-12 | RootsBidder: |
| 15:22.00 | CIA-12 | - Changed self colour to red to make difference Clearer |
| 15:22.08 | Grum | Xinhuan: lol |
| 15:22.10 | cryogen | cncfanatics: *g* |
| 15:22.31 | Xinhuan | i was like MEH, i commented the code out?? |
| 15:22.31 | cryogen | its only complicated because lua sucks |
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| 15:24.34 | cncfanatics | cryogen, not really |
| 15:24.40 | cncfanatics | the same in every language if u code in ur sloppy way |
| 15:24.46 | cryogen | oi |
| 15:24.53 | cryogen | dont be cheeky young man! |
| 15:25.01 | cncfanatics | lol u know its true |
| 15:25.09 | cryogen | what's wrong with it? :p |
| 15:25.22 | cncfanatics | u shld first check for target buffs, if u find one, return, then for player buffs, if u find one return, then for target debuffs and if u find one return |
| 15:25.27 | cncfanatics | instead of ur silly nested ifs |
| 15:25.40 | cryogen | maybe |
| 15:25.44 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r613 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 17_18_LochModan.lua confirmed working, added in .toc |
| 15:25.52 | cncfanatics | don't blame the language if ur coding is sloppy xD |
| 15:26.29 | cryogen | i blame lua for making me think wrong |
| 15:26.33 | cryogen | id never write like this in C:) |
| 15:27.42 | Crysli | Trell_: making it bigger an then cutting some off didn't work. Guess I'll just have to build it from a lot of panels. |
| 15:27.53 | cncfanatics | cryogen, most languages are exactly the same except for some syntax |
| 15:28.43 | cryogen | im just finding excuses |
| 15:28.56 | cryogen | dunno why but it just makes me think differently |
| 15:29.02 | cryogen | i kinda blame playing wow and coding at the same time as well |
| 15:30.43 | cncfanatics | well, my code is quite clean, at least imo |
| 15:30.55 | cncfanatics | and I play & code at once a LOT xD |
| 15:31.00 | cncfanatics | find better excuses imo :) |
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| 15:32.02 | cryogen | yeah i just havent been oputting enough effort in |
| 15:32.03 | cryogen | :p |
| 15:32.07 | cryogen | you'll like the new version |
| 15:32.26 | cncfanatics | what does ur boss think if u coding lua at work ? (a) |
| 15:32.55 | cryogen | i suspect he would not be best pleased |
| 15:33.03 | cryogen | but i cba today |
| 15:33.04 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 15:33.24 | Zhinjio | are there any encryption libraries out there already? |
| 15:33.40 | Zhinjio | I seem do to recall scanning lists of stuff that there was something out there |
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| 15:33.43 | cncfanatics | there are |
| 15:34.04 | Zhinjio | I want to store some encrypted values in SV |
| 15:34.26 | Zhinjio | do you happen to know the name(s) of them? |
| 15:34.43 | cncfanatics | why u want crypto in wow anyway ? |
| 15:35.10 | Zhinjio | because there are always going to be user who will attempt to circumvent the security measures you try and implement |
| 15:35.19 | Zhinjio | thats at least one more level of obfuscation |
| 15:35.37 | Zhinjio | besides, I want to learn more. |
| 15:35.38 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 15:35.43 | Zhinjio | so its selfish desire too |
| 15:35.46 | cncfanatics | http://files.wowace.com/TEALib/TEALib-r49867.zip |
| 15:35.52 | cncfanatics | what u coding ? |
| 15:36.17 | Zhinjio | I've decided to rewrite the mod I had taken over the maintenance of. Suicide Kings |
| 15:36.28 | cncfanatics | wth is that ? |
| 15:36.45 | Zhinjio | simple DKP system |
| 15:37.55 | CIA-12 | 03avai * r51399 10XLootMonitor/ (XLootMonitor.toc localization.zhTW.lua): |
| 15:37.55 | CIA-12 | XLootMonitor: |
| 15:37.55 | CIA-12 | - Added zhTW localization |
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| 15:40.38 | cryogen | cncfanatics: replaced it with 3 lines of code :) |
| 15:40.42 | cryogen | (excluding the lua cruft) |
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| 15:41.46 | Paene | woo...I've got a frame and it moves! But it's position doesn't save :( |
| 15:42.20 | cryogen | cncfanatics: http://pkl.net/~stu/targettimers.diff |
| 15:42.29 | cryogen | very dry coded, havent even run it through a lua intepreter |
| 15:42.34 | cryogen | so apologies if there are silly lua errors |
| 15:42.49 | cryogen | oh wait, scratch that, pkl.net is down again |
| 15:43.58 | cncfanatics | btw hmmm |
| 15:44.02 | cncfanatics | why ain't the addon in files ? |
| 15:44.15 | cryogen | files? |
| 15:44.16 | CIA-12 | 03Tristan * r51400 10Enhancer/ (11 files in 4 dirs): |
| 15:44.16 | CIA-12 | Enhancer: |
| 15:44.16 | CIA-12 | - Moved Export/Import to it's own file |
| 15:44.16 | CIA-12 | - Cleaned up my Parser-3.0 registrations |
| 15:44.16 | CIA-12 | - Added indicators to all frames (used to check if you have the buff from a certain totem or not) |
| 15:44.17 | CIA-12 | - Windfury frame will be green when Stormstrike is off cooldown and red when Stormstrike is on cooldown |
| 15:44.28 | cncfanatics | files.wowace.cm |
| 15:44.31 | cncfanatics | it ain't in there |
| 15:44.33 | cryogen | oh, dunno? |
| 15:44.35 | cncfanatics | make sure to set all required tags ;) |
| 15:44.42 | cncfanatics | but do that when u got an svn acc |
| 15:45.04 | cryogen | hmm i need somewhere to put this diff |
| 15:45.21 | cryogen | hmm this will do |
| 15:45.31 | cryogen | http://pics.ipng.org.uk/targettimers.diff |
| 15:46.02 | cryogen | i think this version sucks a lot less |
| 15:46.03 | cncfanatics | thats from the curr svn revision I committed ? |
| 15:46.07 | cryogen | ye |
| 15:46.24 | cryogen | it might not work any more, but at least it looks nice :p |
| 15:46.25 | CIA-12 | 03avai * r51401 10XLoot/localization.zhTW.lua: |
| 15:46.25 | CIA-12 | XLoot: |
| 15:46.25 | CIA-12 | - Updated zhTW locale file |
| 15:46.43 | cncfanatics | lets see |
| 15:47.07 | cncfanatics | make sure to clear ur cache in deacticate |
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| 15:48.29 | Paene | CreateFrame is supposed to save the created fame's location and such in layouts-cache.txt right? |
| 15:48.40 | Paene | or do you have to do something special to get it to save? |
| 15:49.03 | cncfanatics | why are u updating all buttons on ActionChanged ? |
| 15:49.15 | cncfanatics | the fourth argument passed is the button object that changed, u can check that against self |
| 15:50.16 | cncfanatics | cryogen, s/BuffDir/BuffDur/ |
| 15:50.19 | cncfanatics | in ur code |
| 15:50.30 | cncfanatics | after doing that I get [2007/10/08 17:51:09-714-x5]: FlexBar2_BuffDur\BuffDur.lua:85: attempt to call method 'UpdateBuffDuration' (a nil value) |
| 15:50.34 | cryogen | why does it matter? it will be raised for each button, no? |
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| 15:51.02 | cryogen | revert that, new diff coming |
| 15:51.44 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ok grab it now |
| 15:51.50 | cncfanatics | cryogen, updating each button when one button changes is overkill ? |
| 15:52.02 | cryogen | but each buttons registers its own event handler |
| 15:52.09 | cryogen | so why would a button that hasnt changed trigger that event? |
| 15:52.19 | cryogen | this is *in the button* dont forget |
| 15:52.21 | cncfanatics | events are global |
| 15:52.28 | cncfanatics | it triggers for all buttons |
| 15:52.30 | cryogen | ew |
| 15:52.31 | cryogen | :p |
| 15:52.49 | cryogen | a better question is why does it trigger all buttons if one changes? |
| 15:53.23 | cncfanatics | because another button might want to react to the fact another button changes ? |
| 15:53.39 | cryogen | evil |
| 15:53.43 | cryogen | what are the full event params? |
| 15:54.06 | cncfanatics | lemme remember |
| 15:54.23 | cncfanatics | Event, NameSpace, Dispatcher, Button for actionchanged |
| 15:54.27 | cncfanatics | compare Button with self |
| 15:54.34 | cncfanatics | if they're equal, its the current button that changed |
| 15:54.59 | cryogen | ya |
| 15:55.00 | cryogen | got that |
| 15:55.06 | CIA-12 | 03ulic * r51402 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/Maladaar.lua: LittleWigs: updated deDE |
| 15:55.19 | cncfanatics | I made it that way and not trigger the event for the button only so a button can react on another button changing if it wants to, shouldn't limit possibilities |
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| 15:55.37 | chexsum | omg @ needing written references to get a job stacking shelves |
| 15:56.06 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.06 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.06 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.07 | cryogen | there :p |
| 15:56.45 | cryogen | cncfanatics: does it work? |
| 15:56.57 | cncfanatics | [2007/10/08 17:56:28-716-x2]: FlexBar2_BuffDur\BuffDur.lua:42: attempt to index local 'buffs' (a nil value) |
| 15:57.30 | cryogen | o_O |
| 15:57.49 | cryogen | i see it |
| 15:58.21 | cryogen | revert, get it again, apply :p |
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| 16:03.56 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u coded more lua then C today ? :p |
| 16:04.30 | cryogen | mmm, debatable |
| 16:04.36 | CIA-12 | 03auditjj * r51403 10BigBrother/localization_zhTW.lua: |
| 16:04.36 | CIA-12 | BigBrother: |
| 16:04.36 | CIA-12 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 16:04.37 | cryogen | but probably |
| 16:04.39 | cryogen | does it work? |
| 16:04.50 | cncfanatics | no errors |
| 16:04.57 | cncfanatics | lemme pawn a mob to see if it works |
| 16:05.08 | cryogen | kk |
| 16:05.53 | cncfanatics | sprint works |
| 16:05.56 | cncfanatics | so I guess buffs are right |
| 16:05.59 | cncfanatics | let me test debuffs |
| 16:06.13 | cryogen | well i have closed 2 bugs today, so its not all slack |
| 16:07.11 | cncfanatics | I closed more bugs then u on a free day :p |
| 16:07.25 | cncfanatics | actualy, I close more bugs in the weekend then in the week :p stupid school ftl |
| 16:07.38 | cryogen | heh |
| 16:07.45 | cryogen | the scale of this is far bigger, im sure :p |
| 16:07.55 | cncfanatics | FB is quite big u know :p |
| 16:08.14 | TNSe | god damn |
| 16:08.17 | TNSe | spamsentry FAILED :( |
| 16:08.21 | cryogen | 20 mins left to close another |
| 16:08.22 | TNSe | I GOT SPAMMED |
| 16:08.39 | do3mca | thats what you get for playing ut03 |
| 16:08.46 | cryogen | heh |
| 16:08.47 | cncfanatics | 745kb of code without libs, quite a lot still :o and I write all that *gulp* |
| 16:08.51 | TNSe | oh wait |
| 16:09.04 | TNSe | it was before it activated :P |
| 16:09.28 | cryogen | debuffs good? |
| 16:09.32 | cncfanatics | didn't check yet |
| 16:09.36 | cryogen | what about target buffs too |
| 16:09.39 | cncfanatics | I'll gank something |
| 16:09.48 | TNSe | who maintains spamsentry :P |
| 16:10.02 | cncfanatics | all good it seems |
| 16:10.06 | cryogen | nice |
| 16:10.11 | cncfanatics | [2007/10/08 18:11:52-717-x1]: FlexBar2_BuffDur\BuffDur.lua:42: attempt to index local 'buffs' (a nil value) again |
| 16:10.15 | cryogen | you like the code better now? :p |
| 16:10.17 | cncfanatics | as my target died it triggered |
| 16:10.23 | cncfanatics | and yea I like the code much better now |
| 16:10.30 | cryogen | thats more like the stuff i write |
| 16:10.31 | cryogen | functions ftw |
| 16:10.40 | cncfanatics | looks quite a lot like my code tbh |
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| 16:10.54 | cryogen | hmm |
| 16:11.04 | cryogen | target died, hmm |
| 16:11.28 | cryogen | oh well, submit it for now and i'll continue at home, please? |
| 16:11.35 | cncfanatics | sure a thing |
| 16:11.53 | do3mca | svn commit -m "stu broke it, dont bother." |
| 16:11.57 | cryogen | heh |
| 16:12.01 | do3mca | :-P |
| 16:12.08 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51404 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/BuffDur.lua: FlexBar2_BuffDur: Recoded to cnc's liking xD |
| 16:12.14 | cryogen | lol |
| 16:12.17 | cncfanatics | it ain't in files anyway |
| 16:12.20 | cncfanatics | as ur toc ain't correct |
| 16:12.35 | cryogen | i just copied yours |
| 16:12.37 | cryogen | :p |
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| 16:13.12 | Paene | A frame created using CreateFrame will have it's coordinates saved in layouts-cache by default right? |
| 16:13.16 | cncfanatics | first, ur toc is Buffdur while the directory is BuffDur |
| 16:13.26 | cncfanatics | second, ur toc number is old |
| 16:13.46 | cryogen | first my fault, second yours :) |
| 16:13.49 | cncfanatics | na |
| 16:13.52 | cncfanatics | FB's toc is to 2020 |
| 16:13.52 | Stanzilla | third, you eat babies |
| 16:13.55 | cryogen | i copied it from another fb module |
| 16:13.56 | cncfanatics | 20200* |
| 16:14.00 | cncfanatics | :o the modules |
| 16:14.03 | cryogen | ye but your modules arent :) |
| 16:14.04 | cncfanatics | I might not have updated those indeed |
| 16:14.24 | cryogen | feel free to fix the toc |
| 16:15.12 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51405 10FlexBar2/ (7 files in 7 dirs): FlexBar2: TOC update |
| 16:15.44 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I already was before u said that :p |
| 16:16.01 | cryogen | :) |
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| 16:19.36 | xerawx | anyone know of an Ace mod with roughly the features of Clique? I've only been able to find Click2cast and it's fairly limited |
| 16:19.48 | cryogen | why not just use clique? |
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| 16:23.02 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r51406 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 16:23.02 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 16:23.02 | CIA-12 | - added option to select which text warnings to show |
| 16:23.57 | Kaelten | its more laziness than busy I'm afraid, I've gotten into the habbit of sending them out while I'm at work and I've been off |
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| 16:27.16 | cryogen | then let the poking resume! |
| 16:27.28 | cryogen | (you should have just said busy :p) |
| 16:27.35 | Kaelten | who's weasel? |
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| 16:27.43 | cryogen | injoke, dont worry :p |
| 16:27.46 | Kaelten | bahm just being honest :P |
| 16:28.06 | Kaelten | and its not because I don't like you, it takes a lot for me to start taking shit personally. |
| 16:28.22 | cryogen | i didnt think it was, but it was an option :) |
| 16:28.31 | Paene | Elipsis! |
| 16:28.31 | Ellipsis | so my boyfriend keeps leaving for work earlier and earlier, and coming home later and later |
| 16:28.36 | Ellipsis | he says it's because he "loves his job" |
| 16:28.39 | Ellipsis | should I be worried? |
| 16:28.44 | Paene | what's his job? |
| 16:28.47 | Ellipsis | game dev |
| 16:28.56 | Kaelten | Ellipsis: depends, I work a shit ton, but my wife has nothing to worry about |
| 16:29.06 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Yes, he will marry his job very soon |
| 16:29.11 | Paene | is he nearing a deadline? |
| 16:29.21 | cryogen | speaking of jobs |
| 16:29.23 | Ellipsis | he came home last night all excited because they said he could playtest one of their other games that's nearing release... |
| 16:29.44 | Ellipsis | Paene: not remotely, his team is just starting a new one |
| 16:29.58 | Ellipsis | I'd imagine that he wouldn't come home at all during crunch time =[ |
| 16:30.03 | Paene | have you tried talking to him about it? |
| 16:30.12 | Ellipsis | he just points out that if I had that job I'd do the same |
| 16:30.17 | Ellipsis | which I would, but that's different =[ |
| 16:30.20 | Paene | lol |
| 16:30.37 | Paene | I wouldn't worry too much |
| 16:30.57 | Kaelten | when it comes down to it the biggest question is do you trust him |
| 16:30.59 | Ellipsis | oh well, at least I have all my friends on IRC to keep me company |
| 16:31.06 | Ellipsis | of course I trust him, I just miss him :P |
| 16:31.26 | Paene | hey Elipsis, speak of friends :) |
| 16:31.30 | Paene | *speaking |
| 16:31.38 | Paene | :( |
| 16:31.48 | Kaelten | if you trust him implicitly then don't worry, if you don't reevaluate the relationship |
| 16:31.49 | Ellipsis | what's up Paene? |
| 16:31.55 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Well, you can start worrying and you can relax. Both will lead down the same path |
| 16:31.56 | Paene | Having problems with the frame I created not saving |
| 16:32.07 | Paene | position that is |
| 16:32.10 | Ellipsis | pastey some code |
| 16:32.51 | Paene | http://ace.pastey.net/75046 |
| 16:33.10 | Paene | It should be saving in layouts-cache right? |
| 16:33.39 | Ellipsis | mkay see that's not how layout-cache works :P |
| 16:33.48 | Ellipsis | it doesn't save your whole frame and recreate it for you |
| 16:33.55 | Ellipsis | it just remembers the position for when you create it |
| 16:34.06 | Ellipsis | at least..I think it works with CreateFrame()...let me check |
| 16:34.39 | Paene | I haven't been able to find much at all about it |
| 16:34.53 | Paene | there's a function for saving XML frame positions |
| 16:35.10 | CIA-12 | 03laotseu * r51407 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua: |
| 16:35.10 | CIA-12 | AllPlayed: |
| 16:35.10 | CIA-12 | - New formula to calculate XPToNextLevel in preparation of patch 2.3 |
| 16:35.25 | Ellipsis | oops, yeah |
| 16:35.37 | Paene | gotta save the coords myself then? |
| 16:35.43 | Ellipsis | yup, or use XML |
| 16:35.51 | Paene | :( |
| 16:35.52 | Paene | lol |
| 16:36.05 | Ellipsis | sorry if I confused ya, that'll teach me to give help without looking stuff up first :P |
| 16:36.19 | Paene | lol |
| 16:36.43 | Paene | so I can prob just call getPoint and save the results in the SV's |
| 16:37.09 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 16:37.21 | Ellipsis | not sure if that's affected by scaling or not though |
| 16:37.24 | Ellipsis | ask someone smart like cncfanatics |
| 16:37.37 | Ellipsis | he knows everything about frame positioning =] |
| 16:37.50 | naenee | Hm. Minichat is too finicky to me. Time to try Dreamchat |
| 16:38.02 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 16:38.07 | Ellipsis | whatcha looking for naenee? |
| 16:38.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 16:38.15 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:38.29 | sag_ich_nicht | http://xkcd.com/320/ |
| 16:38.36 | sag_ich_nicht | you should totally consider that! |
| 16:38.52 | Ellipsis | I used to do that for finals week |
| 16:38.57 | Ellipsis | since I absolutely couldn't miss tests |
| 16:39.03 | naenee | Something that does what Minichat does. But Minichat doesn't work right for me. Even when I have it set to auto-maximize, it doesn't. And when I try to resize windows, they just 'shift' up every time I adjust them. |
| 16:39.13 | AKX | naenee, Dreamchat probably fails even more. It's all but abandoned |
| 16:39.16 | Ellipsis | hrm |
| 16:39.19 | naenee | rats |
| 16:39.42 | Ellipsis | maybe there *is* enough demand to make it worthwhile for me to polish up and release mine ^-^ |
| 16:39.42 | naenee | At the moment, Minichat just shows 1 or 2 lines of text, it doesn't maximize at all |
| 16:39.49 | Kaelten | I hate writing unit tests |
| 16:40.30 | naenee | Maybe there's a conflict with Prat or something, but I doubt it. |
| 16:40.36 | Ellipsis | lol no |
| 16:40.46 | Ellipsis | they work together now and stuff |
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| 16:42.46 | naenee | Hm |
| 16:42.56 | naenee | Well, let me delete the luas |
| 16:42.59 | naenee | Perhaps that'll help. |
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| 16:43.12 | Ellipsis | yeah, delete all the luas from your interwebs |
| 16:43.29 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, me smart ? wth ? |
| 16:43.36 | Ellipsis | yes you |
| 16:43.40 | cncfanatics | thats new :o |
| 16:44.00 | Ellipsis | you know what needs to be done to account for frame/UI scale when using getPoint |
| 16:44.08 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 16:44.13 | cncfanatics | multiple or divide by the scale |
| 16:44.24 | cncfanatics | depending on wether ur setting the scale or getting it |
| 16:44.29 | cncfanatics | s/scale/position/ |
| 16:44.35 | naenee | hm. 10MB in old unused Lua files |
| 16:44.37 | cncfanatics | feel free to check how FB does that |
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| 16:47.26 | naenee | Hm. Still does it |
| 16:47.46 | cncfanatics | btw cryogen, still around ? |
| 16:48.37 | naenee | Okay, one chat window maximizes properly. The other just shifts up |
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| 16:50.02 | naenee | Ah, I think I got it. I could not resize the windows until I manually maximize them |
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| 16:51.02 | Paene | Elipsis: <3 thanks, it's working now |
| 16:51.14 | Ellipsis | =] |
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| 16:51.17 | Ellipsis | glad I could help :D |
| 16:51.33 | NeoTron | best so far: Kael'thas to 83% |
| 16:51.44 | naenee | Well, at least Minichat works now. |
| 16:51.46 | NeoTron | so close to being in a controlled phase 4 |
| 16:53.16 | CIA-12 | 03phyber * r51408 10IRQ/IRQ.lua: |
| 16:53.16 | CIA-12 | IRQ: |
| 16:53.16 | CIA-12 | - Fix typo. |
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| 16:56.49 | CIA-12 | 03phyber * r51409 10IRQ/IRQ.lua: |
| 16:56.49 | CIA-12 | IRQ: |
| 16:56.49 | CIA-12 | - Fix the texture option. |
| 16:59.02 | cryogen | cncfanatics: nope |
| 16:59.39 | CIA-12 | 03ixchael * r51410 10Historian/ (Historian.toc HistorianFu.lua): |
| 16:59.39 | CIA-12 | Historian: |
| 16:59.39 | CIA-12 | - Fixed a disconnect when inserting the "Money at peak" statistic into the chat window. |
| 16:59.39 | CIA-12 | - Improved error handling in the FuBar plugin in case the Historian object is not available. |
| 17:00.11 | cncfanatics | cryogen, lol |
| 17:00.23 | cncfanatics | cryogen, wanted to ask you what u thought of the FB API, any improvements needed ? |
| 17:01.09 | cryogen | it sucks! |
| 17:01.32 | cncfanatics | what sucks then, damn you :p |
| 17:01.39 | cryogen | the whole thing! |
| 17:02.15 | Ixchael | Does anyone have any idea why a global object in one file would not be available in another (it comes first in the .toc file)? |
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| 17:02.15 | cncfanatics | cryogen, serious for a sec plx ^^ |
| 17:02.15 | colabean | anyone here use arena live frames? |
| 17:02.15 | cryogen | the only thing that ive noticed is that its not easy to see if you might have a name conflict |
| 17:02.29 | Xinhuan | Ixchael: global object? |
| 17:02.42 | cncfanatics | cryogen, there really ain't a lot of ways around there except prefixing ur module name in front of ur vars unfortunatly |
| 17:02.53 | Ixchael | ahh, a clue - maybe there's a duplicate variable name |
| 17:03.34 | colabean | there any ace arena mods that work right now. gladiator, arenamaster and proximo give me errors |
| 17:03.43 | Ixchael | Xinhuan: Yeah, I have a global variable in one file that I want to access in another file. Works fine for most people, but I have a single user reporting an error (that variable is nil) |
| 17:04.25 | Xinhuan | what is this variable called? |
| 17:04.50 | Ixchael | Historian :) |
| 17:05.20 | Ixchael | It's my AceLibrary |
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| 17:05.56 | cncfanatics | shouldn't be nil except if the user got another error in the main file he ain't reporting |
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| 17:07.48 | Xinhuan | probably what cnc said |
| 17:08.03 | Xinhuan | maybe some ace file didn't load properly, and nothing got loaded |
| 17:08.19 | Ixchael | The FuBar part was loaded, though |
| 17:08.25 | Ixchael | And that's in the same TOC |
| 17:08.54 | colabean | arenamaster updated 1min ago? lol wa.. |
| 17:09.37 | cryogen | cncfanatics: you should start some profs :D |
| 17:09.47 | cryogen | i just sold ~10 stacks of light leather @ 1.5g/20 |
| 17:10.09 | cncfanatics | cryogen, meh |
| 17:10.14 | cncfanatics | got some blues & greens on AH |
| 17:10.24 | cncfanatics | u home now cryogen ? :o as ur on wow |
| 17:10.39 | cryogen | y |
| 17:10.45 | Mudkips | ahahah - look at the bottom left - http://zip.4chan.org/v/src/1191860202310.jpg |
| 17:10.48 | Ixchael | Oh well, will check if he somehow has 2 copies of the addon and that is causing an issue - otherwise I'm stumped! Thanks for the input though |
| 17:11.04 | cncfanatics | cryogen, fix ur mod ? :p |
| 17:11.12 | cryogen | making dinner while auc adv scans |
| 17:11.13 | cryogen | :) |
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| 17:11.36 | cncfanatics | heh, bottomscanner sucks |
| 17:11.39 | phyber | ckknight_: that cowtip/dogtag Talents thing should check if the person is online before whispering them ;) |
| 17:11.41 | cncfanatics | its irritating to not have a progress br |
| 17:11.55 | cryogen | i dont use it |
| 17:11.59 | cryogen | i just scan for market prices |
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| 17:12.32 | AnarchyAo | Hello. |
| 17:13.02 | AnarchyAo | I'm having some serious issues with my World of Warcraft addons and I think WoW Ace Updater is the culprit, can anyone assist me? |
| 17:13.15 | hyperChipmunk | be more specific |
| 17:13.33 | Henry | hhe |
| 17:13.38 | cncfanatics | cryogen, how u do a full scan then ? |
| 17:13.52 | cryogen | i scan with auctioneer |
| 17:13.54 | cryogen | notbottomscanner |
| 17:14.30 | AnarchyAo | Firstly, when I install WoW Ace Updater (via Internet Explorer) it loads up but if I haven't loaded World of Warcraft (i.e. have no Interface/WTF folder, it won't retrieve/show addons that can be installed) |
| 17:15.04 | Mudkips | change your tab |
| 17:15.13 | AnarchyAo | That's only a minor bug I thought I'd mention, the real problem is that after I use WoW Ace Updater to install my addons it says ingame on my ping meter that the addons I intalled are indeed present and are using my memory. |
| 17:15.23 | AnarchyAo | But, no slash commands or any interface changes occur...it's like the addons aren't installed. |
| 17:15.27 | Mudkips | there is usually a standard | installed | etc in WAU |
| 17:15.57 | kenlyric | the problem might be in preferences. Make sure the dir is pointing to your WoW folder |
| 17:16.01 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r51411 10GameLobby/ (BasicServer.lua Core.lua): |
| 17:16.02 | CIA-12 | GameLobby: |
| 17:16.02 | CIA-12 | - fixed some logics in the BasicServer class (e.g. if you are the client the playerlist weren't open) |
| 17:16.11 | AnarchyAo | Yeah ken, it is. |
| 17:16.37 | AnarchyAo | I thought the issue was when WoW Ace Updater asked me something about my interface changing and not accepting out of date addons that don't match the current revision numbers. |
| 17:16.42 | Kaelten | made sure you have load outdated addons checked? |
| 17:16.43 | Mudkips | the game says the addons are loaded? and no errors? but you can't access them? |
| 17:16.56 | AnarchyAo | So, I put YES at first...then went back to reset everything and pressed NO...but still my addons didn't show..I've reinstalled all addons about 4x now. |
| 17:17.00 | AnarchyAo | Yeah it's checked. |
| 17:17.07 | ulic | are you sure you're not set to supress errors? |
| 17:17.15 | AnarchyAo | Yeah, I'm on a fresh install of WoW. |
| 17:17.22 | AnarchyAo | A fresh partition of Windows, too..if that even helps. |
| 17:17.31 | ulic | I believe errors are off by default |
| 17:17.32 | AnarchyAo | And a fresh hard-drive. Everything is default. |
| 17:17.33 | cryogen | s/is// |
| 17:17.38 | AnarchyAo | LUA errors? |
| 17:17.55 | AnarchyAo | I get errors in the game, maybe I should of mentioned that... for example, I install 62 addons or so. But many aren't present (seemingly) |
| 17:17.55 | ulic | yes |
| 17:17.56 | Mudkips | yeah |
| 17:18.03 | AnarchyAo | Bartender3 doesnt show, I see the default blizzard bars. |
| 17:18.07 | Mudkips | you probably have dependencies missing |
| 17:18.08 | AnarchyAo | But, I do see errors with Decursive. |
| 17:18.09 | cncfanatics | well cryogen, where is the scan button in auctioneer ? |
| 17:18.16 | AnarchyAo | It has some code showing on the bar...and when I mosueover it brings up an error. |
| 17:18.30 | AnarchyAo | Nope, no dependencies missing.. I checked my addons menu. |
| 17:18.35 | cncfanatics | grrr, fear is OP |
| 17:18.40 | cncfanatics | died 3 times to a lock each time cuz I end up feared |
| 17:18.40 | Ellipsis | AnarchyAo: they won't show as missing there |
| 17:18.44 | cncfanatics | can't kick fast enough :'( |
| 17:18.46 | Ellipsis | you need to give us the error messages you're getting |
| 17:18.49 | Ellipsis | they will tell you what you are missing |
| 17:18.52 | AnarchyAo | Okay, one second. |
| 17:18.52 | cryogen | cncfanatics: on the auction list, at the top |
| 17:18.56 | AnarchyAo | Ill screenshot what I'm seeing too. |
| 17:19.00 | cryogen | im using auc advanced gamma tho |
| 17:19.10 | cncfanatics | the beta one ? |
| 17:19.10 | cncfanatics | same |
| 17:19.13 | ulic | paste you errors into ace.pastey.net then paste the links in here. |
| 17:19.16 | cncfanatics | I shld update it though haven't in a while |
| 17:19.35 | Ellipsis | AnarchyAo: most likely you just have incorrect settings in your WAU - e.g. updating without externals but not enabling automatic dependency download |
| 17:19.44 | AnarchyAo | Okay, ulic. |
| 17:19.48 | cryogen | cncfanatics: the beta doesnt have a button, just type /auc scan |
| 17:19.50 | AnarchyAo | One sec I'm redoing everything from scrach. |
| 17:19.53 | cryogen | cncfanatics: get the gamma tho :) |
| 17:20.27 | cryogen | a lot of auctions today.. almost 200 |
| 17:20.36 | cncfanatics | cryogen, haven't updated since a while |
| 17:20.51 | cncfanatics | grrr damn lock |
| 17:21.03 | cncfanatics | glad pvp deaths don't give dura loss |
| 17:21.06 | cryogen | heh |
| 17:21.23 | AnarchyAo | getting hit in pvp still does dura loss, right? |
| 17:21.25 | ulic | AnarchyAo: if you're going to redo it I also suggesting adding only one or two addons at a time and make sure they work, then add a few more. |
| 17:21.28 | cryogen | almost 20 mins for this scan :/ |
| 17:21.40 | cryogen | AnarchyAo: being in combat has a flat chance to induce durability loss |
| 17:21.42 | cryogen | being hit or otherwise |
| 17:21.42 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I'll skan soon too |
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| 17:21.56 | cncfanatics | cryogen,its not as simple as that |
| 17:21.59 | hess | hello there! I was wondering if anyone is using the old XArt? |
| 17:22.01 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51412 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: |
| 17:22.01 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 17:22.01 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 17:22.03 | AnarchyAo | Ulic, I actually tried that as well (mainly because I was too lazy to reinstall them all the last time around) and I unfortunately received the same dissapointing results... But with 62 addons doing one at a time is going to be a pain, I guess I'll do it anyways. |
| 17:22.25 | hess | I got a problem with XArt, it replaces my minimap every time i login! |
| 17:22.34 | AnarchyAo | I'll start with ArkInventory, I know that one doesn't show but the pingmeter ingame says it's using my memory. |
| 17:22.51 | Ellipsis | AnarchyAo: check your WAU settings, if every addon throws errors then it's likely the situation I just described |
| 17:22.53 | ulic | yea, start with one or two |
| 17:23.10 | AnarchyAo | is WAU beinginstalled via IE okay to do? |
| 17:23.13 | AnarchyAo | or is their a betetr method? |
| 17:23.17 | AnarchyAo | I'm reinstalling WAU |
| 17:23.17 | Ellipsis | that's fine |
| 17:23.22 | Ellipsis | don't bother with that |
| 17:23.23 | Ellipsis | it won't help |
| 17:23.28 | Ellipsis | just check your settings like I told you to |
| 17:23.29 | AnarchyAo | oh well I want to just be sure. |
| 17:23.43 | Ellipsis | do you want our help, or do you want to do all kinds of stuff on your own and just tell us all about it? |
| 17:23.48 | cryogen | 145/176, yawn |
| 17:23.55 | AnarchyAo | I'm high on ADHD medication...I have to be thorough in the process of elimination. |
| 17:24.02 | AnarchyAo | I can't help it, sorry. And yes, I do want your help. |
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| 17:25.19 | AnarchyAo | Okay let me mention firstly |
| 17:25.23 | hess | Anyone familar with the Pitbull unitframes got a second to help me with a problem? |
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| 17:25.43 | cryogen | ~asktoask |
| 17:25.44 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 17:25.47 | AnarchyAo | After deleting Interface/WTF folder and reinstalling WAU, no addons are being shown...Is their a categoru view for Not Installed? |
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| 17:26.09 | AnarchyAo | I see Standard, Installed, Updated. |
| 17:26.20 | SunTsu | hess: Nobody will know as long as you don't, well, ask your question |
| 17:26.27 | ulic | ~wau2 |
| 17:26.27 | purl | wau2 is, like, http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 17:26.33 | ulic | you running that one AnarchyAo? |
| 17:27.15 | hess | I would like to know if there is any aura (buff) enchantments to the pitbull unitframes except for alt-aura. And also, is it possible to split auras so that I get buffs on top, debuffs bellow etc? |
| 17:27.27 | hess | I cant seem to get the aura configuration to these unitframes |
| 17:27.30 | Ellipsis | hess, use the default Aura module for that |
| 17:27.31 | AnarchyAo | I'm not familiar with that, purl. I used http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 17:27.40 | sb | mah |
| 17:27.41 | Ellipsis | heehee |
| 17:27.44 | Ellipsis | it's talking to the bot |
| 17:27.45 | sb | castyeller funny is broken |
| 17:27.49 | sb | cant disable the funny thing :/ |
| 17:27.54 | chexsum | yes you can seperate them and move them |
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| 17:28.12 | AnarchyAo | purl, should I be using what you sent me instead? |
| 17:28.13 | hess | chexsum |
| 17:28.18 | ulic | AnarchyAo: that is the newest and recommened version of WAU |
| 17:28.28 | hess | so if I wanted debuffs to the left, and buffs on top. is that possible? |
| 17:28.35 | cryogen | 9683 items on the ah |
| 17:28.36 | cryogen | o_o |
| 17:28.37 | chexsum | hess, yes |
| 17:28.38 | AnarchyAo | The one I linked, ulic? |
| 17:28.39 | hess | how do I config that? Ive been trying for hours |
| 17:28.44 | Ellipsis | hess, use the default Aura module for that. |
| 17:28.45 | SunTsu | AnarchyAo: I recommend not talking too seriously to purl , becausem it is a bot |
| 17:28.48 | chexsum | ive got mine looking lik perfect raid atm |
| 17:28.54 | Ellipsis | AltAuras is not finished yet |
| 17:28.54 | hess | Ellipsis yes I do. |
| 17:29.02 | Ellipsis | then enable split |
| 17:29.06 | AnarchyAo | lol. |
| 17:29.08 | hess | ye |
| 17:29.12 | ulic | AnarchyAo: the one that purl spit out |
| 17:29.13 | hess | then it gets all weird |
| 17:29.17 | Ellipsis | and go to side->buff/debuff-> whatever |
| 17:29.27 | AnarchyAo | Alright, let me use the one purl linked then. |
| 17:29.39 | hess | When I enable split, I am no longer able to choose possition |
| 17:29.56 | hess | and it starts growing from outer air into the unitframe |
| 17:29.56 | chexsum | reopen the menu and you can click buff or debuff to position them |
| 17:30.03 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 17:30.08 | hess | so if I got only 1 buff, its far and dislocated from the unitframe |
| 17:30.09 | hess | :( |
| 17:30.10 | Ellipsis | and you can change the growth directions as well |
| 17:30.16 | hess | yes |
| 17:30.18 | hess | well |
| 17:30.22 | AnarchyAo | Why isn't the one that purl linked updated for the main pages installation links? |
| 17:30.22 | hess | its far to the left |
| 17:30.30 | hess | and buffs start at unitframe on the right |
| 17:30.31 | hess | and |
| 17:30.34 | hess | I get to choose |
| 17:30.36 | hess | up/down |
| 17:30.36 | hess | :D |
| 17:30.37 | hess | lol |
| 17:30.40 | chexsum | change the growth direction |
| 17:30.42 | Paene | How does integer division work in lua? Is 8/3 = 2 or 3? |
| 17:30.46 | hess | ye |
| 17:30.50 | hess | up/down i get to choose |
| 17:30.56 | hess | when the buff is FAR to the left |
| 17:31.00 | hess | when i choose split |
| 17:31.01 | chexsum | nah its there - you can do anything with the buffs |
| 17:31.04 | AnarchyAo | ~wau2 |
| 17:31.05 | purl | from memory, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 17:31.16 | Ellipsis | hess, just play with the configuration options. I promise, it's not broken. |
| 17:31.26 | hess | damn I have :D |
| 17:31.27 | Ellipsis | you can get it the way you want it, you just have to change the settings a bit |
| 17:31.36 | hess | ill try again tho... |
| 17:31.38 | hess | and come back |
| 17:31.46 | hess | .... |
| 17:31.47 | hess | thanks |
| 17:31.59 | hess | one more thing |
| 17:32.26 | hess | I added XArt to my mods, and it keeps relocating my minimap every time i reload my ui :( |
| 17:33.13 | Ixchael | Raid time - see you all later :) |
| 17:33.17 | hess | gl hf |
| 17:33.55 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x57327e38.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 17:34.09 | AnarchyAo | Cairenn, woah...haven't seen her since...like...back in the year 2000 with Everquest. |
| 17:34.59 | AnarchyAo | !wau2 |
| 17:35.01 | AnarchyAo | ~wau2 |
| 17:35.02 | purl | from memory, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 17:36.10 | chexsum | auras>side sets the positions and auras>directions sets the layout |
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| 17:37.27 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51413 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: |
| 17:37.27 | CIA-12 | Parrot : |
| 17:37.27 | CIA-12 | - Added localization koKR |
| 17:37.57 | hess | ah |
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| 17:38.02 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 17:38.06 | hess | the "side" tab actually fixed my problem |
| 17:38.08 | hess | Ellipsis |
| 17:38.09 | hess | thanks |
| 17:38.16 | AnarchyAo | Okay, using WAU2 going to give it a try now. |
| 17:38.35 | hess | It didnt look at first as it was a part of the Aura configuration, in my Rock Config |
| 17:38.51 | *** join/#wowace WALoeIII (n=WALoeIII@129.170.157.208) |
| 17:41.11 | colabean | how can u reset gladiators position? |
| 17:41.16 | colabean | its stuck in upper left |
| 17:41.32 | Kaelten | I've sent out all requested svn passes |
| 17:42.25 | *** join/#wowace Nandini (n=Nandini@66.193.90.159) |
| 17:42.29 | Kaelten | cryogen: stop poking me! |
| 17:43.35 | cryogen | youve been greylisted |
| 17:43.37 | AnarchyAo | Anyone know the name of a good addon that will display LUA errors in length and allow me to copy them? |
| 17:43.40 | cryogen | so i'll poke you until it arrives :D |
| 17:43.44 | Keirathi | WAU2 works great for me |
| 17:43.51 | Kaelten | greylisted? |
| 17:43.56 | cryogen | once every.. 5 seconds should do it! |
| 17:43.59 | chexsum | buggrabber |
| 17:44.04 | cryogen | ye my mail server rejects all mail with a non fatal error |
| 17:44.08 | cryogen | you have to prove you are real :p |
| 17:44.11 | chexsum | +bugsack |
| 17:44.40 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:45.12 | AnarchyAo | This may seem silly but can anyone also tell me how exactly I can form a shortcut to link to WAU2? I'm using the actual java icon that I used to download the program. |
| 17:46.26 | AnarchyAo | Installing bugsack just made the error not show at all. |
| 17:46.52 | cncfanatics | AnarchyAo, hit the bugsack icon |
| 17:46.56 | cncfanatics | on ur minimap/fubar |
| 17:48.04 | AnarchyAo | BugGrabber has stopped capturing errors, since it has captured more than 20 errors per second. Capturing will resume in 60 seconds. |
| 17:48.15 | AnarchyAo | This is odd, considering the only addons I have installed are ArkInventory and BugGrabber |
| 17:48.19 | AnarchyAo | Also, the minimap icon isn't present. |
| 17:48.25 | AnarchyAo | ArkInventory isn't showing, all default blizzard frames are. |
| 17:48.46 | Ellipsis | yes but you still haven't told us what the freaking error message is |
| 17:48.52 | Ellipsis | which is the one thing that actually explains what's wrong |
| 17:48.52 | AnarchyAo | I've run the Blizzard repair utility and it has verified my WoW installation. |
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| 17:48.55 | AnarchyAo | I can't. How can I? |
| 17:49.00 | Ellipsis | open your BugSack |
| 17:49.01 | AnarchyAo | You said click on the minimap icon. |
| 17:49.02 | AnarchyAo | Let me go open it. |
| 17:49.23 | hess | hey |
| 17:49.29 | hess | dont forget to bring steady gloves |
| 17:49.52 | hess | you never know what might kept in that sack |
| 17:50.09 | Cairenn | me waves at AnarchyAo |
| 17:50.15 | Cairenn | grrr |
| 17:50.23 | AnarchyAo | 1. ArkInventory\Locale\enUS.lua:1: attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' (a nil value) |
| 17:50.24 | Cairenn | there we go |
| 17:50.29 | AnarchyAo | That's the first error of the maximum 20. |
| 17:50.37 | Ellipsis | great, now we know what's wrong |
| 17:50.41 | AnarchyAo | They all appear to call global functions that end in nil values. |
| 17:50.52 | Ellipsis | you are downloading your addons without externals and not downloading the libs |
| 17:50.58 | Ellipsis | so either enable automatic dependency download |
| 17:51.03 | Ellipsis | or update with externals |
| 17:51.26 | AnarchyAo | That option is already checked. |
| 17:51.40 | Ellipsis | well then it's not working right |
| 17:51.45 | Ellipsis | do you have an Ace2 in your addons folder? |
| 17:51.59 | AnarchyAo | nope |
| 17:52.18 | Ellipsis | then it's not downloading dependencies |
| 17:52.26 | Ellipsis | I really would suggest just updating with externals |
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| 17:52.40 | AnarchyAo | How do I do that in WAU2? |
| 17:52.57 | Ellipsis | select all your addons and find the command to update selected with externals |
| 17:53.03 | Industrial | hi, #wau |
| 17:53.07 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 17:53.22 | Ellipsis | <3 Industrial |
| 17:53.26 | Industrial | ;) |
| 17:53.53 | Industrial | Y HELLO THAR ELLISPISP |
| 17:54.03 | Ellipsis | hay be nice |
| 17:54.12 | Ellipsis | I don't like it when people make fun of my lithp |
| 17:54.16 | AnarchyAo | The only options I see are under actions, and they are: Refresh Addons List, Update Installed Addons, Update |
| 17:54.20 | AnarchyAo | 'iBugGrabber' |
| 17:54.21 | Industrial | rofl |
| 17:54.25 | AnarchyAo | and uninstall |
| 17:54.35 | Mudkips | ./facepalm |
| 17:54.36 | Ellipsis | never used WAU2 |
| 17:54.42 | Ellipsis | you'll have to go ask the WAU people |
| 17:54.42 | AnarchyAo | Omfg |
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| 17:54.58 | Mudkips | wau2 is lacking a bit... |
| 17:55.06 | Mudkips | so I switched back to 1.# a while back |
| 17:55.13 | Ellipsis | btw, I wasn't kidding about the lisp thing. I do have a slight lisp irl :( |
| 17:55.15 | eBait | ckknight, what is the main difference of parrot to sct? |
| 17:55.24 | Ellipsis | it kicks butt |
| 17:55.26 | Industrial | btw, ask wau questions in #wau |
| 17:55.34 | Mudkips | and a huge gap between your front teeth ? |
| 17:55.35 | AnarchyAo | I just don't understand why the previous WAU version I was on wasn't updating dependencies correctly when it had before for a long while...is the new version of WAU (not version 2.0) not updating them correctly? |
| 17:55.37 | eBait | i know, using it for a while now, works great and fast |
| 17:55.47 | Industrial | AnarchyAo: /join #wau |
| 17:55.50 | Pkekyo | Ketchup gir alle damene lyst til å kaste klærne og tafse som gærne. Ketchup gir alle pene damer lyst til å ty til vold og skyte folk, minKetchup! |
| 17:55.59 | Mudkips | AnarchyAo, you're just doing it wrong |
| 17:56.20 | Industrial | Pkekyo: can I have xtra cheese on thaT? |
| 17:56.29 | Pkekyo | Industrial: only if you pay for it |
| 17:56.35 | Mudkips | katsup? |
| 17:56.54 | *** part/#wowace eBait (n=info@martijn-claassen.demon.nl) |
| 17:58.31 | evl | Can I override with XML inherits? |
| 17:59.00 | evl | <Button name="SomeTemplate" inherits="BlizzardTemplate"><Script><OnClick>Override stuff here</Onclick></script></button> |
| 17:59.05 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-189-143.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 18:03.41 | cryogen | Kaelten: wth does "sent" mean? :) |
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| 18:05.37 | Ellipsis | ooh brownies :D |
| 18:08.28 | CIA-12 | 03stalake * r51414 10GearEvaluator/: GearEvaluator: Added trunk directory for my new addon 'GearEvaluator' |
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| 18:11.59 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | Any facebook users here? |
| 18:12.03 | AKX | Yes. |
| 18:12.07 | AKX | (Alas.) |
| 18:12.13 | Antiarc|Laptop | Wanna try an app out for me? |
| 18:12.16 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'm learning. :P |
| 18:12.21 | AKX | Meh, sure. |
| 18:12.27 | Antiarc|Laptop | http://www.facebook.com/add.php?api_key=0307a8a4ba470f0000724f384ab7474c |
| 18:13.08 | Ellipsis | it has a facebook |
| 18:13.09 | AKX | ... will the app steal my contacts and rape my cats, Antiarc|Laptop? |
| 18:13.23 | Mudkips | not the cats ;_; |
| 18:13.23 | Antiarc|Laptop | How did you know?! |
| 18:13.36 | Antiarc|Laptop | It's my secret plan to steal ur megahurtz |
| 18:13.40 | Ellipsis | :o |
| 18:13.55 | Ellipsis | mah megahurtz :'( |
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| 18:15.33 | Antiarc|Laptop | The facebook platform is pretty nice |
| 18:15.46 | Antiarc|Laptop | Though WoW's flexibility has spoiled me |
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| 18:15.59 | Ellipsis | how much malicious stuff can apps really do? |
| 18:16.13 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r51415 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 18:16.13 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 18:16.14 | CIA-12 | - ACE-55: fix ** behavior with some rawget/set |
| 18:16.14 | Antiarc|Laptop | Not a lot. |
| 18:16.22 | Antiarc|Laptop | I think the worst they could do is spam your friends. |
| 18:16.28 | Ellipsis | I never looked into it and just went with the paranoid block all setting |
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| 18:16.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 18:16.30 | Antiarc|Laptop | Maybe upload pics to your gallery. |
| 18:16.37 | Mudkips | omg we were doing phase 2 learning on illidan last night |
| 18:16.39 | Antiarc|Laptop | Hm. I don't think it'll do anything for you then :P |
| 18:16.44 | Antiarc|Laptop | it's going to have to have access to your friendlist |
| 18:16.47 | Mudkips | those flames eats my megahurtz |
| 18:17.13 | Ellipsis | yeah, I'm not going to add it, I was just curious |
| 18:17.18 | Mudkips | it's like beign surrounded by firebreathing felhounds from blade's edge >_< |
| 18:17.19 | Ellipsis | I've never talked to anyone who did an app before |
| 18:17.33 | Ellipsis | and I'm too lazy to check it out myself |
| 18:17.44 | Ellipsis | besides, can't you see who's added an app? |
| 18:17.45 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r51416 10Ace3/tests/AceDB-3.0-defaults.lua: Ace3(tests) - add a test for ACE-55 to DB-Defaults testing |
| 18:17.50 | Ellipsis | you might, like, get my name and stalk me |
| 18:17.52 | Mudkips | it needs an incentive Antiarc|Laptop |
| 18:17.55 | Antiarc|Laptop | Hrm. I don't know. |
| 18:17.56 | Mudkips | like coffee |
| 18:18.03 | Mudkips | or candy |
| 18:18.04 | Ellipsis | I like coffee |
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| 18:18.10 | Mudkips | a cat is fine too |
| 18:18.14 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 18:18.14 | Antiarc|Laptop | Mudkips: It's a learning widget right now. I've got a couple more I'm planning on that will be more incentivized. |
| 18:18.28 | Ellipsis | Mudkips: 1, internets: 0 |
| 18:18.42 | Antiarc|Laptop | Looks like I can see how many users have it installed, but I don't see a way to see who. |
| 18:18.47 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 18:18.57 | Ellipsis | I'm still too paranoid XD |
| 18:19.01 | Antiarc|Laptop | That's fine :P |
| 18:19.17 | Antiarc|Laptop | The Facebook platform is actually really poor as far as testing goes. |
| 18:19.33 | Antiarc|Laptop | Not really any good ways to stub calls or whatever |
| 18:19.35 | Mudkips | heck, at least it's facebook |
| 18:19.39 | Antiarc|Laptop | So that you can test non-mutatively. |
| 18:19.43 | Mudkips | not that other place owned by emokids |
| 18:19.51 | Mudkips | WE DO NOT SPEAK OF IT'S NAME |
| 18:19.56 | Antiarc|Laptop | I'm really impressed with the quality of the platform, really |
| 18:20.07 | Antiarc|Laptop | I was never much of a facebook user but developing for it is converting me |
| 18:20.20 | Ellipsis | I'm saddened by the way apps have taken over facebook |
| 18:20.36 | Ellipsis | my friends' profiles used to be simple text-based information about them |
| 18:20.40 | Antiarc|Laptop | I think the biggest problem is rude apps that just take any opportunity to spam you. |
| 18:20.42 | Ellipsis | with the occasional icon or photo |
| 18:21.03 | Ellipsis | now it's like HAY GUISE ADD THIS COOL APP: *YoUr NaME iN GliTTeR TexT!!!* |
| 18:21.32 | Mudkips | some people just spend too much time "socializing" in this interbutt sites |
| 18:21.32 | Ellipsis | but I think maybe that says more about my friends than the website x.x |
| 18:21.37 | Mudkips | these* |
| 18:21.54 | CIA-12 | 03stalake * r51417 10GearEvaluator/ (GearEvaluator.lua GearEvaluator.toc Libs/): |
| 18:21.54 | CIA-12 | GearEvaluator |
| 18:21.54 | CIA-12 | - Added basic TOC and empty main file |
| 18:21.54 | CIA-12 | - Created 'Libs' directory |
| 18:22.03 | Mudkips | just like playing WoW for too long |
| 18:22.16 | Mudkips | you get bored of the standard ui and go nuts on something custom |
| 18:22.28 | Ellipsis | heh, sorta |
| 18:22.44 | Ellipsis | but at least in WoW, if your custom UI is butt-ugly, nobody else has to stare at it |
| 18:22.59 | Mudkips | not true |
| 18:23.05 | Mudkips | just stop going there :P |
| 18:23.07 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 18:23.21 | Ellipsis | well at least some people have the sense not to post screenshots of something that makes everyone's eyes bleed |
| 18:23.25 | Ellipsis | ...some people |
| 18:23.25 | Ellipsis | >_> |
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| 18:24.32 | Mudkips | yoda origami http://www.geekstir.com/yodaorigami.html |
| 18:24.37 | Industrial | ze gogglez, zhey zo nozink! |
| 18:24.44 | Ellipsis | how can I not click a link like that |
| 18:25.08 | Ellipsis | zomg that's hot |
| 18:25.55 | Mudkips | haha |
| 18:25.57 | Mudkips | this kid |
| 18:26.10 | Mudkips | 10 yr became an hero after his parents banned him from playing games |
| 18:26.26 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 18:26.32 | do3mca | i survived not playing wow! |
| 18:26.40 | do3mca | for five minutes |
| 18:26.52 | Mudkips | what would Jack Thompson think! |
| 18:26.53 | rob` | KITTEN CANNON HAS ME IN ITS CLAWS |
| 18:27.23 | Mudkips | apparently jumped from the 19th floor of their apartment |
| 18:27.43 | do3mca | everytime you levelup a kitten will die |
| 18:27.45 | naenee | Hm. How to thin out my addons. |
| 18:28.00 | do3mca | rm -rf Interface |
| 18:28.05 | neenee | Nah |
| 18:28.06 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51418 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: |
| 18:28.06 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 18:28.07 | CIA-12 | - Added node count back in the config screen (Xinhuan) |
| 18:28.07 | CIA-12 | - Commented out some unused code |
| 18:28.12 | Mudkips | neenee, Step 1: put it in a box ? |
| 18:28.16 | neenee | Well, that would work, but I'd lose what I want to keep. |
| 18:28.52 | neenee | I already replaced Prat with Teknicolour and SimpleChatMods |
| 18:28.52 | Nandini | neenee: What artist begins a bold new work with a finished painting? You need a blank canvas! |
| 18:29.16 | neenee | I know. |
| 18:29.19 | neenee | egh |
| 18:29.30 | neenee | Maybe I should try that, though it's a bold move |
| 18:29.48 | Mudkips | some comments are just wrong |
| 18:29.51 | Mudkips | "He must have thought he had an extra life left" |
| 18:29.55 | Nandini | you can always back up your Addons folder and WTF folder |
| 18:29.57 | Mudkips | i lold |
| 18:30.04 | neenee | yup. I'll backup first. |
| 18:30.12 | Nandini | in case things go horribly, horribly wrong |
| 18:31.09 | Nandini | that reminds me, do you suppose donating to a sperm bank would be a wise thing to do? back up my dna, as it were? |
| 18:31.23 | neenee | hm. My WTF dir is 42MB |
| 18:31.27 | Ellipsis | ouch |
| 18:31.44 | Nandini | i bet a lot of it is old auctioneer data |
| 18:31.55 | Nandini | or maybe tons of imported cartographer data |
| 18:32.11 | do3mca | WZF |
| 18:32.43 | neenee | 3.4MB Auctioneer |
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| 18:32.55 | Mudkips | I hardly scan nowdays :( |
| 18:33.02 | Mudkips | dailies are too easy to earn money |
| 18:33.15 | Mudkips | and a lot less time than auctionhouse sniping |
| 18:33.18 | neenee | Hm. Should I delete my WTF too? |
| 18:33.22 | Nandini | if you have WAU 1.9.44 installed, you can have it remove SV files for any addons not currently installed |
| 18:33.29 | Nandini | (it works for non-ace addons too) |
| 18:33.44 | neenee | I use WAU 2.0 though |
| 18:33.44 | Mudkips | I used to have an exe for that |
| 18:33.48 | Mudkips | it was called wowcleaner |
| 18:34.05 | Mudkips | in b4 keylogger |
| 18:34.20 | Ellipsis | I just do it by hand |
| 18:34.21 | neenee | Deleted everything but 'LiteFonts'. |
| 18:34.36 | Ellipsis | 'cause sometimes I want to keep SVs for addons I'm not currently using |
| 18:34.56 | neenee | I just sort on date modified and delete if I want to |
| 18:35.15 | Nandini | ugh the number 248 has so few proper divisors |
| 18:35.58 | neenee | Well, the game really loaded quickly |
| 18:36.10 | ckknight | phyber: how do you suggest checking? |
| 18:36.51 | Pkekyo | why won't autobar show tooltips anymore? :< |
| 18:37.24 | Nandini | ckknight: what's the reasoning behind the 1 spacing between bars in PitBull? just to give the background a reason for being, or is there functional purpose? |
| 18:37.40 | Nandini | to make sure frames can't ever possibly overlap? |
| 18:37.53 | ckknight | arguably looks better |
| 18:38.37 | neenee | Okay. I definitely want baggins |
| 18:38.46 | Nandini | i do like it if i have a background set, but without one, it's distracting to see glimpses of things between my bars, there ends up being eye-cating "motion" there which causes me to look more than i should |
| 18:38.54 | Mudkips | is baggins superior to onebag suit? |
| 18:39.04 | neenee | Not a clue. I just know and like Baggins. |
| 18:39.16 | neenee | I suggest you try both to see which *you* find 'Superior'. |
| 18:39.19 | Mudkips | suite* |
| 18:39.28 | Ellipsis | depends what you want |
| 18:39.37 | stavmar | Baggins pwns, I just wish I knew how to implement Closetgnome functionality with Baggins |
| 18:39.45 | phyber | ckknight: not sure, isn't there some IsOnline() type thing? I just thought it was weird to get those messages :) |
| 18:39.46 | Ellipsis | download Baggins_ClosetGnome? |
| 18:40.02 | stavmar | well yeah, but I am retarded and dont know how to use it exaclty? |
| 18:40.07 | Mudkips | ( Ellipsis ) download Baggins_ClosetGnome? |
| 18:40.37 | Ellipsis | it adds some rule thingies I'd assume |
| 18:40.40 | Ellipsis | idk, I don't use it |
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| 18:42.24 | stavmar | neenee: can you replace Prat with Teknicolour and SimpleChatMods, does it really do a good job for replacing it? |
| 18:43.10 | stavmar | Right now I am being killed by too much increasing mem usage, and Prat is high on the list, but I like what it offers, but my FPS is suffering from it. |
| 18:43.28 | Ellipsis | what do you need it for? |
| 18:44.10 | stavmar | which? Ellipsis |
| 18:44.17 | vhaarr | stavmar: SimpleChatMods includes teknicolor functionality |
| 18:44.31 | Ellipsis | stavmar: what specific features in Prat do you want |
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| 18:45.03 | neenee | Stavmar - for me it does. |
| 18:45.18 | stavmar | coloring of the characters by calss, channel name altering, and removal of buttons on the windows? |
| 18:45.21 | neenee | vhaarr - the colours? It didn't do that for me |
| 18:45.33 | Mudkips | telltarget,fonts,copychat,timestamps, etc |
| 18:45.38 | Mudkips | prat wins |
| 18:45.50 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51419 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/TSP.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Add an extra prune to two-opt, but remove the TWOOPTPASSES parameter and perform two-opt until no improvements can be made. |
| 18:45.50 | Mudkips | url copy OMG |
| 18:45.57 | stavmar | copychat, i have to see that, do you need to turn it on? |
| 18:46.01 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 18:46.04 | Mudkips | I think so |
| 18:46.17 | vhaarr | neenee: does that for me |
| 18:46.18 | Mudkips | you should get some kind of page icon on the top left of your chatframe |
| 18:46.21 | Pkekyo | why won't autobar show tooltips anymore? :< |
| 18:46.24 | Mudkips | or more inside it >.> |
| 18:47.48 | neenee | vhaarr, odd. |
| 18:48.18 | vhaarr | neenee: SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua |
| 18:48.46 | neenee | Yes, I noticed it was there, but it didn't work for me for some reason. Or perhaps I'm confusing that tryout with BasicChatthings |
| 18:48.54 | stavmar | Mudkips: i found it pretty nifty |
| 18:49.21 | neenee | Oh dear |
| 18:49.27 | vhaarr | stavmar: SCM has ULR copying |
| 18:49.27 | neenee | I forgot to make a backup of an addon |
| 18:49.29 | Mudkips | oh button removal |
| 18:49.39 | Mudkips | can't forget that... just too many good things to mention |
| 18:49.50 | Mudkips | and chat scroll ! |
| 18:49.58 | vhaarr | it has those as well |
| 18:50.00 | stavmar | ULR? URL? |
| 18:50.05 | neenee | It was a modified version of Alphamap without notes and such :| |
| 18:50.06 | vhaarr | URL, obviously |
| 18:50.08 | neenee | very very low footprint |
| 18:50.17 | neenee | Just the transparent click-through map :| |
| 18:50.26 | stavmar | sorry, I actually have interest inactually copying the actual chat to post in guild forums |
| 18:51.00 | stavmar | url copy is definitely nice though |
| 18:52.20 | *** join/#wowace lolinternet (i=bitch2k@85.127.119.16) |
| 18:53.28 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 18:53.52 | Ellipsis | I just realized I've left the "required" security question thing at the top of my facebook homepage for...eh...probably close to a year now |
| 18:54.05 | Ellipsis | I wonder if they're ever going to require me to fill it in |
| 18:54.56 | kenlyric | maybe it'll exempt you when the inevitable slaughter of facebook users comes. |
| 18:55.06 | Ellipsis | cool |
| 18:55.57 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r614 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (Alliance/18_20_RedridgeMtns.lua TourGuide.toc): 18_20_RedridgeMtns.lua added. also confirmed working. |
| 18:55.59 | neenee | hm |
| 19:00.00 | Mudkips | anyone seen this design yet? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33132#comments |
| 19:00.07 | neenee | Does Rock replace Waterfall? |
| 19:00.12 | Mudkips | I've also check every quatermaster and it seems like a world drop to me |
| 19:01.24 | Ellipsis | Mudkips: it's because you liek mudkips |
| 19:01.31 | Mudkips | no u |
| 19:01.34 | Ellipsis | o snap |
| 19:01.41 | Mudkips | that's right I went there |
| 19:02.16 | NeoTron | Man so much conflicting info - does the kael'thas staff buff (mental protection field) get consumed like a fearward if you get a stun etc or does it not get consumed? |
| 19:02.55 | *** join/#wowace a-stray-cat (n=stray@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:03.54 | nevcairiel | its an aura |
| 19:03.57 | nevcairiel | not consumned |
| 19:04.21 | NeoTron | that's the assumption we've gone with |
| 19:04.32 | NeoTron | it's a buff that wears off if you leave the 30yrd radius |
| 19:04.40 | nevcairiel | aka aura |
| 19:04.40 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 19:04.46 | NeoTron | except it's a buff |
| 19:04.50 | NeoTron | it's not an aura per se |
| 19:04.56 | NeoTron | auras automatically reapply. this doesn't |
| 19:05.01 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 19:05.07 | Mudkips | yeah Neotron is right |
| 19:05.22 | Mudkips | it IS an aura but you'll have to reuse the staff to reapply it |
| 19:05.22 | NeoTron | you need to use the staff to reapply the aura to someone who went out of range |
| 19:05.23 | nevcairiel | if i enter the proximity of a player, which has the staff equiped, and activated it once, i get the aura |
| 19:05.34 | Mudkips | that's if someone went out of range |
| 19:05.55 | [Ammo] | you have to reapply it afaik |
| 19:06.34 | Ellipsis | no conflicting information here |
| 19:06.53 | Ellipsis | clearly we know what we're talking about! |
| 19:07.13 | nevcairiel | we killed him with that already :shrug: |
| 19:07.34 | nevcairiel | i doubt we were lucky and everytime everyone was in range, we generally find those flaws all the tiem :P |
| 19:08.04 | Cheads | tekkub-wow: mikko.majuri * r614 /trunk/TourGuide/ <-- is that something you can test yet? =) |
| 19:08.20 | [Ammo] | we had people just hit the staff every oonce in a while |
| 19:08.38 | durcyn | Cheads: http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com |
| 19:08.45 | Cheads | ty |
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| 19:08.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o nymbia] by ChanServ |
| 19:08.52 | *** join/#wowace lprich (n=rascal84@unaffiliated/rascal84) |
| 19:09.11 | lprich | 325 people in here... wow. |
| 19:09.15 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: or you had people reapply the buff on a regular basis and didn't know about it |
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| 19:09.54 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: our people arent that smart :o |
| 19:10.01 | neenee | Hm. I'm just playing without most addons now and I'm only running into one or two things I miss |
| 19:11.19 | neenee | It's quite surprising |
| 19:11.45 | *** part/#wowace lprich (n=rascal84@unaffiliated/rascal84) |
| 19:13.05 | Wogroipl | was the GUI for Flexbar2 removed? |
| 19:13.22 | Ellipsis | removed? |
| 19:13.27 | Ellipsis | nobody's written one yet o.O |
| 19:13.36 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@0x5731c3d5.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:13.42 | Wogroipl | there was a GUI a week ago :P |
| 19:13.53 | Wogroipl | well sort of |
| 19:16.42 | cncfanatics | you mean a month ago |
| 19:16.46 | cncfanatics | yea it was removed, it was crap :) |
| 19:17.29 | Hjalte | Suddenly Capping doesnt color my team mates - anyone with the same problem? |
| 19:18.34 | Paene | Is Dewdrop2.0 a mixin library? |
| 19:19.11 | Paene | nvm |
| 19:20.05 | neenee | hm. Cowtip needs rock I see |
| 19:20.32 | cncfanatics | neenee, same with fubar, pitbul, parrot & flexbar |
| 19:23.19 | Dustwhisper | could someone hand me a macro that resets Assessment data ? |
| 19:24.35 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 19:25.34 | Nandini | hmm... i always fancied nevcairiel with a brazilian |
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| 19:26.03 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 19:26.08 | Ellipsis | poor nevcairiel |
| 19:26.12 | Nandini | err.... AS a brazilian |
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| 19:26.15 | nevcairiel | what now? |
| 19:26.18 | neenee | Hm |
| 19:26.25 | neenee | Wasn't there a mod called 'Examiner' or something |
| 19:26.32 | neenee | Which allowed to inspect people |
| 19:26.42 | neenee | cncfanatics, I use none of those though |
| 19:27.12 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51420 10/branches/Buffalo2/Buffalo2.lua: Buffalo2: Another possible nil error |
| 19:27.27 | neenee | Where did Examiner go? |
| 19:27.40 | rophy | wowinterface? |
| 19:27.52 | Nandini | do you really need more functionality than just inspecting someone will provide? (since you are trying to reduce) |
| 19:27.58 | neenee | Hm |
| 19:28.00 | neenee | Mayb |
| 19:28.01 | neenee | e |
| 19:28.10 | neenee | I thought it was ace too |
| 19:28.11 | rophy | I use Examiner and I like it |
| 19:28.13 | rophy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7377-Examiner.html |
| 19:28.29 | neenee | I use it too, just got it, thanks :) |
| 19:30.26 | CIA-12 | 03diablohu * r51421 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
| 19:30.26 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:30.26 | CIA-12 | - zhCN update |
| 19:31.32 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51422 10/branches/Buffalo2/Buffalo2.toc: Buffalo2: Forgot to update the TOC |
| 19:32.12 | hess | I must tank you all modders for your help today |
| 19:33.32 | hess | ah |
| 19:33.36 | hess | buffalo2 updates? |
| 19:33.37 | hess | yes? |
| 19:34.13 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 19:34.27 | hess | Ellipsis :D i got my buffs working well now |
| 19:34.31 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 19:34.34 | hess | wait I show a screanshot how it ended up |
| 19:36.00 | hess | site is slow... |
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| 19:37.05 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51423 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: Fix nil bug |
| 19:39.43 | hess | tinypic kinda wont work.. bah |
| 19:39.52 | hess | im geting stuck uploading |
| 19:39.56 | helget | is there any way to bypass the "logon to raid"-hang without disabling all addons? like.. any addons with names like "DelayedAddonLoading" or something like that? :P |
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| 19:43.15 | hess | Ellipsis |
| 19:43.17 | hess | http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=23v13ra&s=2 |
| 19:43.19 | hess | there we go |
| 19:43.25 | hess | thanks for your help! |
| 19:43.29 | Ellipsis | nice :) |
| 19:43.33 | hess | very happy with my UI now |
| 19:44.17 | Ellipsis | ah, you're swedish? ^-^ |
| 19:44.19 | helget | lol Health |
| 19:44.21 | helget | hess |
| 19:44.25 | helget | haha it's me, cipher :P |
| 19:44.50 | CIA-12 | 03zhinjio * r51424 10/branches/SuicideKingsGeo-Secure/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:44.50 | CIA-12 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 19:44.50 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:46.06 | hess | helget, hello :P |
| 19:46.09 | helget | :D |
| 19:46.17 | helget | what server are you playing on hess ? |
| 19:46.27 | hess | shattered hand |
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| 19:46.29 | hess | horde |
| 19:46.33 | helget | kk |
| 19:46.36 | helget | et|dagurk = cambro :D |
| 19:46.45 | et|dagurk | lol |
| 19:46.47 | helget | weird meeting u here tbh :P |
| 19:46.52 | helget | small world and all that |
| 19:47.01 | hess | what are you doing here? jesus... |
| 19:47.08 | et|dagurk | sup HEz |
| 19:48.46 | et|dagurk | wtb good ui |
| 19:48.58 | hess | priv |
| 19:48.59 | hess | et|dagurk |
| 19:49.04 | et|dagurk | aye |
| 19:50.44 | et|dagurk | svara mig hess |
| 19:51.15 | hess | et|dagurk, im trying to talk priv to you. You dont answer no..:/ |
| 19:51.23 | et|dagurk | ok |
| 19:51.24 | et|dagurk | same here |
| 19:51.26 | et|dagurk | go msn |
| 19:51.29 | hess | :/ |
| 19:51.40 | et|dagurk | :( |
| 19:51.47 | et|dagurk | im online@msn |
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| 20:09.26 | do3mca | umm |
| 20:09.33 | do3mca | how do i move the input bar? |
| 20:15.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Can anyone suggest what I might do or run or use to try to determine whether or not a trinket with a proc effect is affecting my dot values on spells cast before the proc effect? |
| 20:16.57 | harldephin | haha lol.. "More than 50 friends are trying to be sync'd. This won't work. Make less friends -- what is this, some sort of social game?" |
| 20:17.02 | Ellipsis | um...the combat log? |
| 20:17.46 | harldephin | what's with that cap anyway.. i know blizzard likes to control people by restricting things, but 50 friends is just not enough |
| 20:19.23 | CIA-12 | 03jncl * r51425 10Skinner/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:19.23 | CIA-12 | Skinner: Commented out several debug messages in several modules |
| 20:19.23 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.17 | harldephin | wouldn't an add-on be able to extend that by just creating a separate local list without increasing server load directly by just checking for a friend's availability by the player's request? |
| 20:20.46 | harldephin | it's not as if a /who more or less would bring a server down, is it? |
| 20:21.02 | do3mca | a who? |
| 20:21.02 | Ozguli` | or automatically, cycling trought all the friends? |
| 20:21.05 | do3mca | one? |
| 20:21.13 | do3mca | imagine all players doing that |
| 20:21.25 | do3mca | thats what you have to calc. not one player doing a who every five minutes |
| 20:22.00 | nymbia | there's a reason there's a cooldown on /who |
| 20:22.13 | nymbia | if people abuse it, they'll just raise the cooldown, which'll suck |
| 20:22.19 | harldephin | why cycling, i just don't want to manually write down additional friends. instead, i want to right-click someone and add his/her name to the list. that's it. no automatic /who or anything. only by request (as i would do anyway). |
| 20:22.43 | harldephin | by request = writing "/who <name>" a before |
| 20:22.54 | chexsum | aquaintance list would be cool |
| 20:22.56 | harldephin | maybe i've just explained it the wrong way before |
| 20:22.59 | harldephin | yea |
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| 20:23.25 | harldephin | maybe ChatLog or Prat or something like that could create such a list |
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| 20:30.54 | CIA-12 | 03andryk * r51426 10FuBar_AbramsFu/ (. AbramsFu.lua FuBar_AbramsFu.toc): FuBar_AbramsFu: Initial import. |
| 20:31.30 | ulic | it spews quotes from JJ Abrams projects? |
| 20:32.16 | siIentium | arent there addons for extended friends lists already? |
| 20:35.18 | harldephin | siIentium: like, for example, which? |
| 20:36.27 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r51427 10FuBar_ItemDBFu/FuBar_ItemDBFu.lua: FuBar_ItemDBFu - preparation for InventoryLib changes |
| 20:38.41 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r51428 10ItemDB/ (ItemDB_DBFrame.lua ItemDB_DBFrame.xml): |
| 20:38.41 | CIA-12 | ItemDB |
| 20:38.41 | CIA-12 | - fixed DressUp feature |
| 20:38.41 | CIA-12 | - removed link warnings |
| 20:38.41 | CIA-12 | - support for GetSellValue API (implemented by eg ItemPriceTooltip) |
| 20:38.42 | CIA-12 | - some small performance tweaks |
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| 20:40.05 | godzmacklap | know of an addon that displays cords in the minimap thats really lightweight? :> |
| 20:40.21 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r51429 10InventoryLib/InventoryLib-2.0/InventoryLib-2.0.lua: |
| 20:40.21 | CIA-12 | InventoryLib |
| 20:40.21 | CIA-12 | - removed the whole sharing code as it's no longer needed |
| 20:40.21 | CIA-12 | - will now fill your cache directly from server cache -> lots and lots of items :) |
| 20:40.25 | backbone87 | simpleminimap |
| 20:40.45 | aestil | Elkano: is it libstub? |
| 20:40.48 | godzmacklap | ah meant in the world map* sry |
| 20:41.03 | godzmacklap | or it does that also? |
| 20:41.04 | Elkano | no, not yet as it still uses GratuityLib |
| 20:41.26 | aestil | or, in my case, LibGratuity 2.0 :) |
| 20:41.31 | Elkano | but I was going to look into "porting" to LibStub soon |
| 20:41.52 | [Ammo] | we should have done branding like Rock elkano |
| 20:41.53 | backbone87 | godzmacklap: carthographer |
| 20:41.59 | [Ammo] | Rock only libs gogog |
| 20:42.25 | aestil | ammo, liez. |
| 20:42.25 | godzmacklap | mm too big, my lap cant handle that :þ |
| 20:42.42 | Ellipsis | aestil: I'm downloading eePanels2 again :o |
| 20:42.43 | Ellipsis | ph34r |
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| 20:42.54 | [Ammo] | aestil: there's plenty of examples on svn |
| 20:42.54 | backbone87 | godzmacklap: install only the modules you need |
| 20:42.58 | Saroz | Bigwigs wave timers are so off, it's just silly.. Kaz timers are twisted |
| 20:43.02 | godzmacklap | hmm |
| 20:43.11 | aestil | plenty of examples of what? |
| 20:43.13 | [Ammo] | Saroz: read the source, did you get a fraps, etc |
| 20:43.16 | [Ammo] | rock only libs |
| 20:43.22 | [Ammo] | specialevents-3.0, crayon-3.0 etc |
| 20:43.26 | aestil | oh, yes. |
| 20:43.31 | aestil | those are ckk libs, yes? |
| 20:43.37 | [Ammo] | no |
| 20:43.40 | [Ammo] | SEE isn't |
| 20:43.44 | Saroz | [Ammo], read it, gonna see if I can get better times |
| 20:43.52 | [Ammo] | that's the idea |
| 20:43.57 | [Ammo] | what you want to do Saroz |
| 20:44.01 | Saroz | dont have transscriptor installed :| |
| 20:44.05 | [Ammo] | is log: the WORLD_STATE_UPDATE event |
| 20:44.08 | CIA-12 | 03mikk * r51430 10FuBar2/ (FuBar.toc.override README-INSTALLING.txt): |
| 20:44.08 | CIA-12 | FuBar2: |
| 20:44.08 | CIA-12 | - Remove the savedvars entry that someone added to the override toc. It causes changes to not be saved. |
| 20:44.09 | CIA-12 | 03andryk * r51431 10FuBar_AbramsFu/libs/: FuBar_AbramsFu: Added libs dir for externals |
| 20:44.11 | [Ammo] | or world states update |
| 20:44.13 | Saroz | transcriptor does that |
| 20:44.23 | cryogen | Kaelten: moo! |
| 20:44.28 | Kaelten | ? |
| 20:44.31 | Saroz | or is it bigwigs_debugger |
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| 20:44.38 | [Ammo] | dunno |
| 20:44.39 | godzmacklap | mhm yes that could work, thanks backbone87 :) |
| 20:44.43 | cryogen | Kaelten: what does "sent" mean? :p |
| 20:45.04 | aestil | huh, i don't really get SEE, can you give me an example of an event that should be, but isn't in the API? |
| 20:45.06 | Kaelten | it means I've sent your password |
| 20:45.10 | Kaelten | check your spam filters |
| 20:45.16 | cryogen | where to? the same address? |
| 20:45.21 | *** part/#wowace et|dagurk (n=dag0rk@c0179p1.ppp.monsternett.net) |
| 20:45.22 | Kaelten | yep |
| 20:45.31 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r615 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Added 20_21_Darkshore.lua, did play it throught so it's working |
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| 20:45.54 | cryogen | i didnt get it |
| 20:47.14 | cryogen | Kaelten: mind resending? |
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| 20:47.21 | aestil | big wigs was wierd for us on vashj, and wasn't showing the Meteor timer properly for Al'ar |
| 20:47.41 | aestil | on Al'ar, we'd have the Meteor soon warning, after she already landed. |
| 20:48.29 | [Ammo] | use DBM |
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| 20:49.10 | aestil | Ellipsis: do you need my help? |
| 20:49.22 | aestil | do I really have to ammo? |
| 20:49.33 | aestil | thats the best solution? i was gonna get a transcriptor log for it. |
| 20:49.39 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r616 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/20_21_Darkshore.lua: get yourself to lvl21 lazy peon |
| 20:49.46 | [Ammo] | it works fine for 99% of the people |
| 20:49.55 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 20:49.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 20:49.55 | [Ammo] | if it doesn't for you, use DBM |
| 20:50.06 | Ellipsis | aestil: need...your..wha? |
| 20:50.10 | Saroz | well, DBM is pretty damn nice, has a lot of custom stuff for each boss |
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| 20:50.29 | [Ammo] | use it then :) |
| 20:50.30 | Saroz | so Ive been told |
| 20:51.13 | Harxx | could I have a question? Is there any mod lately known for causing this problem: When in raid and in combat, it prevents me from opening spellbook or game menu, raid or guild tab are moved to the middle of the screen :( |
| 20:51.28 | aestil | well, ammo, isn't it more likely, that the timer is slightly off, and it can be improved? |
| 20:51.31 | Harxx | sorry for a long line, just wanted to have it in 1 piece ^^ |
| 20:51.42 | [Ammo] | aestil: you're the only one in like 2 months complaining about it |
| 20:51.47 | [Ammo] | and it's 100% correct for me |
| 20:52.11 | aestil | is there any chance I'm doing something wrong? |
| 20:52.20 | aestil | i don't mean to be complaining. |
| 20:52.49 | aestil | i thought i was just reporting something incorrect, also, did the solarian module always whisper the bomb? |
| 20:52.51 | Pkekyo | how much +hit rating do I need to be somewhat efficient as DW fury? |
| 20:52.52 | cryogen | Kaelten: got that one, thanks |
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| 20:53.05 | Kaelten | np |
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| 20:53.12 | Harxx | pkekyo in PvE? 300+ 400 ideal. |
| 20:53.15 | do3mca | uhoh |
| 20:53.18 | [Ammo] | no it started whispering last week or so |
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| 20:54.30 | Harxx | ammo do you know what kind of addon would prevent me from opening game menu etc? please. |
| 20:54.35 | Pkekyo | Harxx: so....900 attackpower and 22% crit to accompany the +hit then? |
| 20:54.54 | [Ammo] | Harxx: a bad addon that taints the UI |
| 20:55.00 | Harxx | Pkekyo: yes, however Im not dw fury myself, just from experience. |
| 20:55.18 | Pkekyo | dude, gimping yourself to 900 AP is completely fucktarded |
| 20:55.23 | Harxx | which one would that be? I removed visual themes and skinner is only allowed to skin the edit box :) |
| 20:55.31 | Pkekyo | I've got 800 AP -NAKED- |
| 20:55.35 | Harxx | 900+ AP you meant? right? |
| 20:55.53 | Pkekyo | no, I meant 900 attack power |
| 20:55.54 | Harxx | I meant 900AP from gear or str equivalent. |
| 20:56.12 | Harxx | --> elitistjerks, go theorycraftnig. |
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| 20:56.32 | CIA-12 | 03cryogen * r51432 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/BuffDur.lua: FlexBar2_BuffDur: Fix the target change handler, add a debuf refresh handler and fixup the duration counters somewhat. |
| 20:56.34 | orionshock | morning all |
| 20:56.40 | cryogen | ta-da! |
| 20:56.52 | orionshock | sylvanaar: ping |
| 20:56.52 | Pkekyo | "900+ AP" means "900 or more AP" |
| 20:57.02 | Pkekyo | not "base ap + 900 ap" |
| 20:57.23 | Harxx | ok I give up, I thought you meant 900AP frmo gear to accompany it. Thats all. I;m a tank so not gonna give any more fury advices. |
| 20:57.39 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r617 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (TourGuide.toc OHFrame.lua): TourGuide - Meh, nilsafe |
| 20:58.34 | do3mca | uuuuh |
| 20:58.37 | Pkekyo | do you mind giving me the name and server of one of your guild's fury warrs? |
| 20:59.16 | aestil | [ammo] could someone using an old version of BW be causing the timers to be off/wrong? |
| 20:59.32 | Harxx | this feel's like police interrogation. No I couldn't. If you seek more ways to improve your character as fury warrior, I suggest you seek help at theorycrafting or clas forums. |
| 21:00.39 | Pkekyo | interrogation? it's simple questions |
| 21:00.47 | Chompers | Pkekyo: i went dw fury a week ago, 257 hit |
| 21:00.58 | Chompers | still not enough, it works out as 93% hit on bosses |
| 21:01.18 | [Ammo] | aestil: no idea, I just never had it happen to me |
| 21:01.33 | Pkekyo | guess I'm screwed then :< |
| 21:01.56 | Chompers | 1745ap unbuffed |
| 21:02.08 | Chompers | and 28% crit, which is waaay too high |
| 21:02.11 | Pkekyo | I'm at 118 :< |
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| 21:02.43 | Harxx | [Ammo]: is there a way to find out what addon does not allow me to open game menu? (Besides enable/disable routine) |
| 21:03.03 | aestil | well, 2 weeks ago i reported to funky that the timer for tainted cores was 5 seconds late, and several other people in IRC jumped in with 'yeah, its always 5 seconds late |
| 21:03.08 | [Ammo] | Harxx: no |
| 21:03.11 | aestil | so, that got changed, and its fixed now. |
| 21:03.59 | Harxx | crap, that will require a lot of raids and relogs, really a lot lot lot lot. |
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| 21:04.33 | [Ammo] | aestil: it's an approximate timer |
| 21:04.38 | [Ammo] | and I have had cores seconds early |
| 21:05.09 | orionshock | whats the function called when you hit escape? |
| 21:05.21 | sbingner | the only place with download of AIOB 2.1 appears to be offline -- anybody happen to have it? granted it's not an ace module but hey ;) |
| 21:05.26 | Harxx | game menu I suppose. |
| 21:05.30 | Harxx | dunno function :) |
| 21:05.48 | orionshock | i think it's close special menues |
| 21:06.38 | Harxx | well another issue: Why does game open "chat tab" instead of raid? |
| 21:07.02 | siIentium | Harxx: if you wanna be smart then disable hald of your addons and test, so you know in which half the problematic addon is, then disable half of the possible addons again - much faster than only disabling one single addon a time |
| 21:07.09 | Harxx | I binded it ingame, chacked 2 binding files that I could find and it says "bind I toggleraid..." |
| 21:07.38 | orionshock | 10$ says it's automation |
| 21:07.56 | Harxx | thanks silentium. |
| 21:08.06 | Harxx | whats that? |
| 21:08.25 | orionshock | a mod |
| 21:08.43 | Harxx | I know, but were you talking about the binding issue? because I dont have automaton installed. |
| 21:08.58 | orionshock | humm.... |
| 21:09.02 | orionshock | i guess it's not automation |
| 21:09.13 | Harxx | just some weird things hapening around my UI. I don't know how to explain them :( |
| 21:09.17 | Harxx | must be ghosts |
| 21:09.19 | weab | you owe me $10 |
| 21:09.36 | orionshock | lol |
| 21:09.58 | weab | or someone anyway |
| 21:10.00 | Harxx | more suggestions please :) |
| 21:10.24 | orionshock | no weab if anything i owe Harxx 10$, but as no one bet'ed agenst me .... i owe no one... |
| 21:10.31 | orionshock | :P |
| 21:10.56 | Harxx | it ok, you can keep those 10 bucks (how generous) just help me fix at least 1 problem :) |
| 21:10.58 | weab | well i figured by being the author i might be able to make a slander case against you or something. |
| 21:11.00 | weab | :p |
| 21:11.00 | Harxx | *it's |
| 21:12.26 | orionshock | oh? author of automation? |
| 21:13.07 | Saroz | [Ammo], any way to see which timers the wavetimers are running on |
| 21:13.17 | Saroz | cause if you dont run the correct boss timer, that explains a lot |
| 21:13.31 | Saroz | if you dont get the Next sync |
| 21:13.38 | LAG|Domo | Yo Saroz, how's the guild :p |
| 21:13.41 | [Ammo] | Saroz: that can't be helped |
| 21:13.53 | [Ammo] | Saroz: can only fallback to something |
| 21:13.58 | [Ammo] | which it should do |
| 21:14.03 | Saroz | yea |
| 21:14.19 | Saroz | would be nice to be able to dump which boss is considered the next |
| 21:14.39 | [Ammo] | yeah hmm |
| 21:15.06 | Saroz | or a simple self:Print as debug |
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| 21:15.22 | [Ammo] | if you run most recent version |
| 21:15.26 | Saroz | I do |
| 21:15.27 | [Ammo] | tell your guild you want to talk to jaina/thrall |
| 21:15.28 | [Ammo] | fixed |
| 21:16.19 | LAG|Domo | Random doing Hyjal yet? |
| 21:16.41 | Saroz | yaya |
| 21:16.46 | Chompers | another kul tias person LAG|Domo? |
| 21:16.53 | LAG|Domo | I used to be. |
| 21:16.59 | LAG|Domo | For a month or two. |
| 21:17.08 | LAG|Domo | Raided with Random then :) |
| 21:17.53 | Saroz | uhh |
| 21:18.32 | LAG|Domo | You remember if you try hard, I'm sure! |
| 21:18.49 | orionshock | Harxx: CloseSpecialWindows() is the function |
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| 21:19.04 | Harxx | ok, and now what? :) |
| 21:19.09 | Saroz | LAG|Domo, not easy |
| 21:19.12 | orionshock | grep CloseSpecialWindows |
| 21:19.22 | LAG|Domo | I'll give you a hint, I was a Rogue. |
| 21:19.30 | LAG|Domo | And my weapons sucked. Hard! |
| 21:19.32 | Saroz | ah, whois FTW |
| 21:19.39 | Harxx | grep? |
| 21:19.40 | Saroz | wings |
| 21:19.54 | LAG|Domo | Aye, Jutsu when I was on KT. |
| 21:20.02 | orionshock | do a search though each addon... for CloseSpecialWindows, and make shure it hooks right |
| 21:20.23 | sylvanaar | orionshock eh |
| 21:20.27 | Harxx | ohh ok, dont know what you mean by hooks but I can search through that. |
| 21:20.45 | orionshock | sylvanaar: it deleted my bat file again..... :( |
| 21:21.34 | orionshock | wau deleted my bat file for skinner updates. no log about it nixing the bat file tho |
| 21:21.46 | sylvanaar | orionshock thats wierd |
| 21:21.59 | [Ammo] | doesn't wau delete all bat files in addons? |
| 21:22.30 | orionshock | oh but it did |
| 21:22.31 | sylvanaar | no, that's done by the files script |
| 21:22.59 | orionshock | this is a non-addon bat file, as in i added it to the dir so i can click it and move the skin files arround |
| 21:23.03 | sylvanaar | orionshock let me see your log |
| 21:23.29 | orionshock | diying in av, gona have to give me a min |
| 21:23.45 | Harxx | lol :) Im doing the same |
| 21:23.46 | Diao | did you add it into the skinner directory |
| 21:24.40 | Diao | cause wau automatically deletes the old directory before extracting i think |
| 21:25.04 | Ellipsis | um, it does if you have the "delete before extracting" option set |
| 21:25.14 | Ellipsis | which hopefully orionshock doesn't, if he's asking this question x.x |
| 21:25.14 | sylvanaar | normally it keeps track of the files you add, and does delete them |
| 21:25.19 | sylvanaar | doesnt |
| 21:25.37 | orionshock | no no i died |
| 21:25.53 | sylvanaar | did you delete the *.wau files by chance? or reinstall? |
| 21:27.06 | Harxx | hmm disabled half of the addons and so far so good :) |
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| 21:27.18 | Harxx | just that it still opens chat tab instead of raid one :( |
| 21:27.32 | Harxx | is there any other place where the beinding sould be set? |
| 21:27.38 | Harxx | *bindings |
| 21:27.45 | Ellipsis | Harxx: that's a Blizz bug, they didn't update the bindings code when they added the chat tab |
| 21:27.50 | Ellipsis | should be fixed next patch |
| 21:28.03 | Harxx | phew thanks god, everyone kept teling me it works fine for them. |
| 21:28.05 | Harxx | thank you. |
| 21:29.38 | orionshock | sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/75052 |
| 21:29.46 | orionshock | diagnostic log right/ |
| 21:30.02 | sylvanaar | right |
| 21:30.49 | CIA-12 | 03andryk * r51433 10FuBar_AbramsFu/libs/: FuBar_AbramsFu: Added externals |
| 21:31.14 | sylvanaar | you can dcc it |
| 21:31.27 | orionshock | oh btw it's not properly using the recycle bin under vista |
| 21:31.36 | orionshock | dcc? |
| 21:31.48 | sylvanaar | 64 bit vista - not supported |
| 21:31.56 | orionshock | booo |
| 21:32.06 | sylvanaar | you dont need the recycle bin anyways |
| 21:32.13 | orionshock | works aight anyways |
| 21:32.19 | sylvanaar | unless you have delete before extract on |
| 21:32.28 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.54 | Harxx | sorry but another question. eepanels2 + pitbull party frames. |
| 21:33.03 | Stanzilla | could someone check the latest Parrot commit? |
| 21:33.12 | Stanzilla | I guess mr. koKR broke it |
| 21:33.16 | orionshock | what for Stanzilla ? |
| 21:33.21 | [dRaCo] | they usually do |
| 21:33.23 | Harxx | I parented each party frame indivisually but sometimes they don't show. Unless I reloadui. |
| 21:33.24 | Saroz | BOOMKIN GEAR |
| 21:33.25 | Saroz | FUCK ME |
| 21:33.32 | LAG|Domo | :DD |
| 21:33.35 | LAG|Domo | Kaz'rogal? |
| 21:33.37 | Stanzilla | orionshock: syntax errors.. |
| 21:33.59 | orionshock | i have the svn version... working fine for me ingame |
| 21:34.34 | Ellipsis | someone translate "TEST YOUR DAMN CODE BEFORE YOU COMMIT" into chinese and korean and put that at the top of all translation sections =] |
| 21:36.58 | LAG|Domo | ni hoa |
| 21:37.08 | Ellipsis | ~fail LAG|Domo |
| 21:37.09 | purl | LAG|Domo: Fail. |
| 21:37.16 | Harxx | :) |
| 21:37.21 | LAG|Domo | >.> |
| 21:37.49 | orionshock | Stanzilla: you getting errors? |
| 21:37.54 | orionshock | pastey em plz |
| 21:39.08 | CIA-12 | 03andryk * r51434 10FuBar_AbramsFu/ (AbramsFu.lua FuBar_AbramsFu.toc): FuBar_AbramsFu: Changed notes. |
| 21:40.14 | orionshock | im gona kick both of you |
| 21:41.03 | Ellipsis | =[ |
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| 21:45.02 | sylvanaar | never sent me the log |
| 21:46.00 | Harxx | does anyone know if issues about parenting eepanel to pitbull group frames or XRS? |
| 21:46.16 | Harxx | those 2 show only when they feel like it :( |
| 21:48.39 | Kebinusan | anyoen recognize the font in this layout http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3738/wowscrnshot100507195621hh0.jpg |
| 21:48.51 | Kebinusan | on the target frame basically |
| 21:50.57 | Harxx | think I know it, let me check |
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| 21:51.28 | Harxx | tangerine maybe |
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| 21:52.44 | Fin | ckknight: ping (in Cartographer Look 'n' Feel options, the "Close with escape" and "Large player arrow" options never seem to save for me, on any of my characters) |
| 21:53.18 | LAG|Domo | Shahraz was seriously hit with the nerf bat |
| 21:53.21 | LAG|Domo | and hard |
| 21:54.33 | Harxx | damn, Im gonna get AV normal --> exalted before I fix all my addons |
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| 22:03.04 | Kebinusan | ckknight: the pitbull import layout and rock config dont get along too well... the import needs a higher strata or something |
| 22:03.36 | Sedai| | im not sure how to set up a MT or RT window with pitbull |
| 22:04.02 | Harxx | and I dont know how to 100% parent eepanels to pitbull party frames. |
| 22:04.03 | Sedai| | i tried enabling it but um it simply shows the bars with "x" for aura |
| 22:05.31 | Kebinusan | ckknight: the paste window for the import doesnt seem to scroll either |
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| 22:06.03 | MoonWitch | ckknight, ping |
| 22:07.01 | MoonWitch | lol |
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| 22:12.14 | MoonWitch | anyone else having issues with certain config changes in rock config causing a wow crash? |
| 22:14.39 | Ellipsis | MoonWitch: is it with the color picker? |
| 22:14.46 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 22:14.50 | Ellipsis | changing the alpha, are you |
| 22:14.57 | MoonWitch | and it's pissing me off tremedously right now |
| 22:15.09 | MoonWitch | uhm it crashed on changing the font .. |
| 22:15.21 | Ellipsis | well I know there's an issue when some of the values get screwed up |
| 22:15.38 | MoonWitch | changing background inset (eepanels config through rock - which I only do for the easier color picker) |
| 22:16.14 | MoonWitch | so now I happily have NO unitframes, just the damn box with a shade, idem dito for my eepanels being back to whatever they were upon first install |
| 22:16.29 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 22:16.56 | MoonWitch | so I am contemplating just editting the )(*&(*^&$£0987 lua for it |
| 22:17.31 | MoonWitch | and I am going to quit smoking tomorrow .. yay more murder |
| 22:18.10 | MoonWitch | it wasn't bad, but I uypdated, libRock and config .. and relogged - boom all fucked up |
| 22:18.18 | MoonWitch | I can use that word in here, right? |
| 22:18.29 | Harxx | do you know aby any chance how to individually chance font size in pitbull castbar? |
| 22:19.16 | Nandini | Harxx: You can't. The best thing to do is to make your global font size larger or smaller, then scale the fonts in the rest of your texts. |
| 22:19.20 | MoonWitch | uhm I don't think it's possible |
| 22:19.30 | MoonWitch | there ya go Nandini knows |
| 22:19.49 | Harxx | ok, I secretly knew about that solution. I was just trying to avoid it. :) |
| 22:20.12 | MoonWitch | i got this new headset and Linkin Park numb never sounded so beautiful before *teat* |
| 22:20.16 | MoonWitch | *tear* * |
| 22:20.17 | Harxx | because profiles don't work in pitbull so I have to edit unitframes in all chars |
| 22:20.34 | Ellipsis | or you could just use the default profile... |
| 22:20.35 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:20.45 | Harxx | nope, doesn't work out fo rme |
| 22:21.02 | Harxx | tried to use the "copy from", doesn't copy anything :) |
| 22:21.12 | Nandini | I use the default profile, then made an actual copy of (and renamed) it in the saved variables and it seems to work. |
| 22:21.16 | Ellipsis | you can't copy them |
| 22:21.19 | Ellipsis | but you can still use the default |
| 22:21.22 | Ellipsis | and set it up how you like |
| 22:21.25 | Ellipsis | and have all your chars use it |
| 22:21.30 | Ellipsis | and then you don't have to do any copying o.O |
| 22:21.43 | Harxx | I see, however, I use different color themes for my chars. |
| 22:21.50 | Harxx | Im just the <3 layout fanboy |
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| 22:22.24 | Ellipsis | well manually copying the SVs is your best bet then, like Nandini said |
| 22:22.25 | buu | LINKINPARK?! |
| 22:22.33 | Harxx | well, I guess I can fix that the old fasioned way tha you proposed. but I have a different issue. |
| 22:22.44 | Harxx | Ellipsis: tried that, didn;t work |
| 22:23.04 | Harxx | maybe I coppied the wrong thing (whole character directory) |
| 22:23.18 | Ellipsis | uh, yeah |
| 22:23.23 | Ellipsis | that's not where that info is stored |
| 22:23.29 | Harxx | :( |
| 22:23.42 | Harxx | it does say "saved variables" there :) |
| 22:24.27 | Ellipsis | to do the copying you'd have to get your hands dirty and actually open a .lua file :P |
| 22:24.57 | Harxx | I dont mind that, I just had honestly no idea that it saves the variables in the actuall lua file. |
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| 22:25.27 | MoonWitch | ckknight, wb .. |
| 22:25.52 | MoonWitch | ckknight, any chance that libRock's latest update borked some stuff in Pitbull and cart? |
| 22:25.52 | Harxx | Ellipsis: I have another but more simple issue :) |
| 22:26.19 | Harxx | I parent eepanel for each pitbull party frame, but they dont show when I join a party. |
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| 22:26.27 | Harxx | I have to reloadui to make them actually show up. |
| 22:26.30 | Ellipsis | you can't parent panels to PitBull frames neatly like that |
| 22:26.35 | Ellipsis | because they are recycled |
| 22:26.51 | Harxx | well, works for player and target frame |
| 22:26.54 | Ellipsis | most people use scripts that show/hide panels based on the number of people in party/raid |
| 22:27.01 | Harxx | could you enlighten me about the proper parenting please? |
| 22:27.20 | Ellipsis | as I said, most people don't use parenting for party/raid frames |
| 22:27.25 | Harxx | I see. I will search forums for such scripts then. |
| 22:27.33 | Ellipsis | good place to start is the eePanels2 thread |
| 22:27.50 | Mudkips | hurrr |
| 22:27.56 | Harxx | additional question to that. I read on several places that you need some addon that uses hook or something to be able to use scripts.. |
| 22:28.07 | Harxx | is that completely wrong? |
| 22:28.27 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 22:28.34 | Ellipsis | eePanels2 has full script support |
| 22:28.36 | Ellipsis | that's all you need |
| 22:28.48 | Dezzimal | is there any way to mess with the pitch of your flying mount? |
| 22:28.54 | Dezzimal | lets say I get to cruising altitude |
| 22:28.57 | Dezzimal | and want to maintain :/ |
| 22:29.08 | Ellipsis | not really for that |
| 22:29.19 | Ellipsis | although you can get some cool effects with the home/end keys (default keybindings) |
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| 22:29.54 | Harxx | now I just want to thank you, you are really helpfull. |
| 22:30.04 | Ellipsis | I try ^-^ |
| 22:30.28 | Diao | ... |
| 22:30.35 | Diao | http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o173/kbc8090/hastelol.jpg |
| 22:30.38 | Diao | look at his weapon speeds |
| 22:31.55 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 22:32.03 | Ellipsis | one of my ex-guildies got a screenie like that |
| 22:32.04 | Dezzimal | yeah haste is a pretty broken mechanic :/ |
| 22:32.05 | Ellipsis | it's pretty win |
| 22:32.14 | Harxx | nice one. |
| 22:32.24 | NeoTron | that's a lot of hits in one second |
| 22:32.35 | Diao | i want to see a fury warrior with those swords and all those buffs :P |
| 22:32.40 | Diao | try spamming heroic strike |
| 22:33.11 | Diao | i'd break my keyboard trying to keep up with HS on every MH hit |
| 22:33.29 | NeoTron | also 3284 AB, 47.3% crit.. |
| 22:33.39 | Harxx | sick :) |
| 22:33.48 | Harxx | but I wouldn't want to be his tank. |
| 22:34.15 | NeoTron | 4367 DPS. lawl |
| 22:34.20 | Diao | it's ok |
| 22:34.25 | NeoTron | unless it was someone else |
| 22:34.35 | Diao | he's only averaging 11771 tps |
| 22:34.40 | Diao | if you look at omen over there |
| 22:34.48 | Harxx | yeah :) |
| 22:35.05 | NeoTron | so he must be doing a lot more than 4000 dps... |
| 22:35.17 | Diao | well it's burst |
| 22:35.19 | Harxx | ofc with that speed |
| 22:35.45 | Diao | imagine if you were pvping against that :( |
| 22:35.48 | Diao | 10k dmg in 1 sec |
| 22:35.51 | NeoTron | still that's a lot of haste |
| 22:36.01 | NeoTron | you'd die in a second or less |
| 22:36.25 | Diao | and they say warriors are the most gear dependent :P |
| 22:36.32 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 22:36.41 | MoonWitch | I think every class is extremely gear dependant |
| 22:36.44 | Harxx | well, all that haste doesnt come from gear :) |
| 22:36.54 | Harxx | ehm ...warlock come to my mind... |
| 22:36.55 | MoonWitch | put a lvl 70 mage naked, and it's pretty bad |
| 22:36.57 | KarlThePagan | we know why melee haste got nerfed |
| 22:37.38 | Diao | his damage range with a 1h sword is higher than my damage range with deep thunder self buffed :( |
| 22:37.42 | MoonWitch | what is seen as the hardest class to play ... |
| 22:37.46 | Megalon | well |
| 22:37.55 | Megalon | he has the mount hyjal casters buff |
| 22:38.16 | Megalon | that's +100% melee attack speed |
| 22:38.27 | Megalon | it will be the same with the melee haste nerf |
| 22:38.28 | Megalon | ;) |
| 22:38.44 | Diao | o_O |
| 22:38.46 | Diao | caster's buff? |
| 22:39.01 | buu | Harxx: Warlocks as gear dependent?! |
| 22:39.03 | KarlThePagan | moon - subject of protracted debate I'm sure... I have taken every class except mage to 20, and most to 30... and I think shaman and mage are the worst |
| 22:39.19 | KarlThePagan | hunter, warlock, paladin are the hardest to do well IMO |
| 22:39.28 | Diao | depends on situation |
| 22:39.30 | Diao | pve/pvp |
| 22:39.32 | Diao | is different |
| 22:39.36 | MoonWitch | I seriously messed up my pally |
| 22:39.50 | Harxx | buu: I meant the exact opposite |
| 22:40.00 | buu | Harxx: Ah. |
| 22:40.02 | buu | Yeah. |
| 22:40.07 | MoonWitch | she's ok for pve, though not too briliant, but pvp she is terrible |
| 22:40.26 | buu | Harxx: If drain life costs more mana to cast than life it returns, you might be in trouble. |
| 22:40.29 | Megalon | Diao: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31626 and stacks |
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| 22:40.38 | Diao | oh |
| 22:40.42 | Megalon | from http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=17899 |
| 22:41.08 | Diao | so he got 2 or 3 of htem |
| 22:41.09 | Megalon | there are also screenshots of ms warriors with 0.2 attackspeed on gorefiends 2h axe |
| 22:41.16 | Megalon | yes |
| 22:41.33 | KarlThePagan | yea nice catch... 3 of those buffs ... lol |
| 22:41.51 | Diao | i thought it was like bloodlust but i didn't think bloodlust stacked so i was confused |
| 22:41.52 | Diao | lol |
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| 22:42.02 | Harxx | hmm, tanking with anything below 1s speed would certainly hurt my finger :) |
| 22:42.08 | Harxx | since it would be only viable to spam hs |
| 22:42.10 | Diao | me too |
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| 22:42.38 | KarlThePagan | ah yea... he is undead... one of those could be bloodlust |
| 22:43.04 | KarlThePagan | I'm just immagining what that would sound like with the 2.2 sound engine changes |
| 22:43.08 | Arrowmaster | pets get bloodlust right? |
| 22:43.44 | Harxx | well, they could simply cap haste at 100%. |
| 22:44.52 | KarlThePagan | lame |
| 22:44.57 | Trell_ | !c eu draenor Zachariah |
| 22:45.00 | ThraeBot | Trell_: Zachariah, Level 59 Human Warlock (0/41/9). 3591 HP; 4380 Mana; 118 mana regen; 13 mp5; 25 spell crit; 268 +spell dmg; 58 shadow dmg (326); 23 fire dmg (291); 3.42% dodge; +29 all resists;[[ TBR: 830 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq65gb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lfsla ][ Updated: Mon Oct 8 18:46:14 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:45.06 | KarlThePagan | i like it better as the reciprocal effect it has now |
| 22:45.15 | KarlThePagan | the only problem is broken stacking buffs |
| 22:45.19 | Arrowmaster | my friend on his rogue died twice during last hydross kill because with the haste on his gear + sword spec + windfury he was hitting so fast that combat potency was restoring so much energy that he never went below 60 spaming SS |
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| 22:46.29 | Trell_ | MoonWitch; I've got an alt of every class; and, levelling wise, my lock, shammy and rogue were/are uber easy to level. |
| 22:46.33 | KarlThePagan | spam feint imo |
| 22:46.35 | Trell_ | oh, my hunter is the easiest |
| 22:46.50 | NivFreak | I found locks easier than hunters to level |
| 22:46.55 | KarlThePagan | why that ability has such a big cooldown... is a mysery to me |
| 22:46.57 | NivFreak | mostly I just hate feeding my pet :) |
| 22:46.59 | Trell_ | the mage and priest I found hardest |
| 22:47.09 | Trell_ | NivFreak; once I got felguard, its ridiculously easy |
| 22:47.17 | Trell_ | im 59 now, that was my char i just !c'd there |
| 22:47.18 | MoonWitch | I've played a shammy to 14, on the PTR I tried a shammy lvl70, after the amount of totems, I decided it wasn't for me |
| 22:47.19 | NivFreak | even VW is really easy |
| 22:47.26 | Trell_ | and with my felguard, its unbelieveably easy to level |
| 22:47.29 | Trell_ | shockingly so |
| 22:47.31 | KarlThePagan | Trell_, I found my shaman to be more fragile than most classes :/ |
| 22:47.34 | Ellipsis | FG is ridiculously easy to play |
| 22:47.47 | Ellipsis | you can level a bit more efficiently with aff, but it takes effort |
| 22:47.52 | MoonWitch | what lvl to you get a fell guard? |
| 22:47.54 | Trell_ | KarlThePagan - maybe before DW and SS, but once I had those two in my sweaty mitts, it was gg to level ;) |
| 22:47.56 | Ellipsis | minimum 50 |
| 22:47.59 | NivFreak | 50 |
| 22:48.03 | KarlThePagan | cool |
| 22:48.04 | Ellipsis | but it doesn't become really useful for a few more levels |
| 22:48.04 | NivFreak | it's 41 demon |
| 22:48.08 | KarlThePagan | something to look forward to |
| 22:48.08 | Ellipsis | when you get some skills for him |
| 22:48.30 | NeoTron | hunters are easier than locks, at least up until l45ish where my hunter is |
| 22:48.31 | KarlThePagan | priest does lose a lot of steam after level 40, I think if you level a holy priest 40-70 that would be the worst... |
| 22:48.42 | Mudkips | same goes for paladins |
| 22:48.45 | Mudkips | ret pallies at leat |
| 22:48.46 | Trell_ | I always raved about affliction, found it real easy to kill things, then someone suggested I tried felguard, and boy, I've never looked back since then |
| 22:48.46 | NeoTron | what makes hunters pwn is that you can kill mobs significantly higher leevl and really never need to worry much about "quest levels" |
| 22:48.53 | Mudkips | thats when you spec protadin |
| 22:49.01 | Trell_ | NeoTron; same with locks :P maybe even more so |
| 22:49.02 | Ellipsis | tbh, holy priest is second only to resto druid in really painful leveling |
| 22:49.13 | Ellipsis | in my experience anyway |
| 22:49.16 | Mudkips | druids leveling as resto is just stuuuuuupid |
| 22:49.18 | NeoTron | Trell_: incorrect |
| 22:49.23 | Ellipsis | I leveled my druid resto 1-70 |
| 22:49.24 | NeoTron | no casters can deal with things 4-5 levels higher |
| 22:49.26 | KarlThePagan | lv 60 resto druids are probably the worst free HK's for my priest |
| 22:49.30 | Ellipsis | never spent a single point in any other tree out of principle ^-^ |
| 22:49.31 | MoonWitch | I have a lvl14 priest, I hate levelling her |
| 22:49.31 | KarlThePagan | back before 2.0 |
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| 22:49.34 | Trell_ | dots, health funnel, dots, health funnel, maybe a fear in there for good measure |
| 22:49.35 | Mudkips | ... |
| 22:49.35 | NeoTron | especially not elites that are 7+ levels higher like I can on my hunter |
| 22:49.54 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: locks can pull off stuff like that though |
| 22:49.54 | NeoTron | Trell_: resist resist resist, partial resist |
| 22:50.00 | Harxx | hunter: if it can't be kited, it can't be killed. |
| 22:50.08 | Trell_ | who cares about resists; my felguard still kicks ass |
| 22:50.08 | Ellipsis | well same with locks x.x |
| 22:50.09 | Harxx | at least for the group mobs. |
| 22:50.12 | KarlThePagan | NeoTron, l2spec imo... +10% hit talent |
| 22:50.12 | NeoTron | !c us kilrogg Aminai |
| 22:50.15 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: Aminai, Level 70 Human Warlock (2/41/18). 10279 HP; 8585 Mana; 113 mana regen; 204 spell crit; 184 spell hit; 1171 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (1225); 215 shadow dmg (1386); 4.59% dodge; 13 resilience; +35 all resists;[[ TBR: 1119 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28webu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2u6nfl ][ Updated: Mon Oct 8 18:51:28 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:50.17 | Ellipsis | if you can fear it, you can win |
| 22:50.21 | Ellipsis | if it's fear immune, gg no re |
| 22:50.27 | NeoTron | I AM a lock |
| 22:50.27 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 22:50.29 | NeoTron | hunter is easier |
| 22:50.30 | NeoTron | by a lot |
| 22:50.37 | Harxx | there are always some stairs + dots for warlocks |
| 22:50.50 | KarlThePagan | hunters are much better because growl is awesome |
| 22:50.57 | Trell_ | i still think my shammy is a lot of fun |
| 22:50.59 | Mudkips | ( Ellipsis ) if you can fear it, you can win |
| 22:51.05 | KarlThePagan | and the new mend pet too |
| 22:51.06 | NeoTron | and hunter pets can actually tank while lock ones can not |
| 22:51.07 | Ellipsis | !vs us kilrogg Aminai US Cenarius Ellipsis |
| 22:51.09 | Mudkips | I remember farming devilsaurs with my skinner lock for leveing |
| 22:51.10 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Aminai vs Ellipsis! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 2/41/18 vs 43/0/18; Aminai wins by 177 TBRs! |
| 22:51.10 | Trell_ | lightning, stormstrike, earth shock, and attack |
| 22:51.11 | Harxx | growl :) |
| 22:51.11 | Mudkips | leveling |
| 22:51.13 | Ellipsis | =[ |
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| 22:51.32 | Harxx | that thing has so awfully wrong scaling :) |
| 22:51.36 | KarlThePagan | worst part of being a warlock... is pulling aggro off your voidwalker with health funnel :( |
| 22:51.39 | NeoTron | a level +5 mob has a 61% base hit chance |
| 22:51.43 | Ellipsis | KarlThePagan: fail :P |
| 22:51.47 | Trell_ | ive really gotta work on getting another character to 70...so many alts and only one 70, its insane |
| 22:51.50 | MoonWitch | I started wow as mage.. but was poorly playing her (I realize that now) and abandonned her because of her death rate |
| 22:51.51 | NeoTron | add in 10% for affliction and you still only haev 71% |
| 22:51.52 | Harxx | pet with growl can outthreat almost any tank sometimes. |
| 22:52.05 | KarlThePagan | Ellipsis, that's what happens when you try to play a warlock like a hunter ;) |
| 22:52.09 | Ellipsis | the thing is, stunts like that (even on fear immune mobs) are possible in most outlands zones just because of how buggy the terrain is |
| 22:52.13 | NeoTron | going higher it drops by 11% per level |
| 22:52.18 | Ellipsis | DoT kiting isn't tough when the mobs can't figure out how to path properly |
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| 22:52.32 | Ellipsis | indeed KarlThePagan |
| 22:52.39 | Ellipsis | you can't solo azuregos with +heal gear on a lock ;) |
| 22:52.45 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 22:52.55 | Mudkips | I remember sololing that huge grub in EPL while I was leveling my lock |
| 22:53.02 | Mudkips | i just sac'd my void for the HP regen |
| 22:53.05 | NeoTron | I'm comparing earlier levels and at that point hunter is easier |
| 22:53.17 | Arrowmaster | it would be slightly better if they gave lock pets +melee hit and +spell hit for the warlocks +spell hit |
| 22:53.19 | Ellipsis | idk, I've only played hunter <20 and at 60/70 |
| 22:53.26 | Ellipsis | I prefer casters |
| 22:53.29 | NeoTron | partially due to gear but fact is you run OOM real fast as a lock if you try to kill high level mobs |
| 22:53.34 | Trell_ | id love to be able to choose weapons for felguards |
| 22:53.35 | Trell_ | and enchants etc |
| 22:53.36 | KarlThePagan | my hunter is 36 now... I like him a lot |
| 22:53.39 | Ellipsis | I've leveled with almost every caster class |
| 22:53.51 | NeoTron | I killed the giant in STV (l47 elite) at level 39 on my hunter |
| 22:53.56 | Ellipsis | mage/lock/druid/priest/lil bit of shammy |
| 22:53.57 | KarlThePagan | the only problem with hunter is that the things that make them difficult to play are non-combat related |
| 22:54.06 | KarlThePagan | feeding pet, learning pet skills, etc |
| 22:54.17 | NeoTron | feeding the pet is difficult? :P |
| 22:54.22 | Ellipsis | yeah, wtf? |
| 22:54.24 | Mudkips | ^ lol |
| 22:54.32 | NeoTron | hunters are ezmode to play |
| 22:54.41 | NeoTron | which makes it surprising there are so many goddamn awful hunter players |
| 22:54.43 | Mudkips | why you think farmers are always troll hunters |
| 22:54.47 | KarlThePagan | NeoTron, seriously what level is your hunter? |
| 22:54.49 | Mudkips | there's a reason |
| 22:54.54 | NeoTron | !c us kilrogg Ilun |
| 22:54.56 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: Ilun, Level 43 Draenei Hunter (34/0/0). 2055 HP; 1725 Mana; 69 mana regen; 355 AP; 59.000 Melee DPS; 6.36% melee crit; 71.10 Ranged DPS; 7.72% ranged crit; 7.33% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 506 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2h2tb4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mcvka ][ Updated: Mon Oct 8 18:56:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:54.58 | Ellipsis | dorf hunters ally side though |
| 22:55.02 | Mudkips | draenei |
| 22:55.02 | Harxx | hunters are easy to play, well only BM ones. |
| 22:55.06 | Harxx | pet management isnt |
| 22:55.08 | Mudkips | dickfaced draenei ~_~ |
| 22:55.17 | KarlThePagan | and how many bag slots do you have devoted to food? kek |
| 22:55.19 | NeoTron | their heal is really rad |
| 22:55.22 | MoonWitch | HEY no bashing my hawt draenei |
| 22:55.22 | NeoTron | KarlThePagan: none |
| 22:55.28 | KarlThePagan | boar? |
| 22:55.32 | NeoTron | well I have two slots |
| 22:55.36 | Mudkips | only wemin draenei are acceptable draenei |
| 22:55.38 | NeoTron | for me and my pet "Cat" |
| 22:55.41 | NeoTron | who, indeed, is a boar |
| 22:55.42 | Mudkips | since they have a ghetto booty |
| 22:55.48 | Ellipsis | I actually had a friend who played nelf hunter pre-TBC, raiding through Naxx and all...rerolled Draenei hunter at TBC release *just for the racial* |
| 22:55.49 | Mudkips | :O |
| 22:55.58 | KarlThePagan | hmm well ok... I guess I chose the hard route leveling with a cat |
| 22:56.01 | NeoTron | plus I feed him any meat I run into |
| 22:56.08 | NeoTron | I can't imagine leveling w/o a boar |
| 22:56.18 | KarlThePagan | cat is great dps, but annoying to feed |
| 22:56.23 | NeoTron | their initial charge (+associated threat) makes it so much easier to dps earlier |
| 22:56.24 | MoonWitch | boars are ugly, but yah they're handy |
| 22:56.38 | Ellipsis | stop distracting me guys :( |
| 22:56.40 | NeoTron | I suspect you kill things faster with a boar than a cat :P\ |
| 22:56.42 | KarlThePagan | I probably should switch... beats leveling fishing |
| 22:56.52 | NeoTron | I tried bird once |
| 22:57.00 | KarlThePagan | lol try bat... QQ buy food |
| 22:57.01 | Ellipsis | mmmmm coffee! |
| 22:57.04 | Arrowmaster | boar charge is broken when combined with growl |
| 22:57.05 | MoonWitch | i made a draenei hunter twink |
| 22:57.10 | Arrowmaster | soo much threat |
| 22:57.12 | NeoTron | and although it did do aoe tanking better it wasn't as satisfactory since they took forever to get to the target (with dive) |
| 22:57.17 | MoonWitch | she blows .. so gonna level her up more |
| 22:57.19 | kovi | we had a troll hutner who rerolled BE just for the boobs -_- |
| 22:57.29 | MoonWitch | BE boobies rock!!! |
| 22:57.41 | Arrowmaster | i had a troll hunter that i rerolled orc |
| 22:57.43 | MoonWitch | actually draenei boobies are nice too if in shirt with cleavage |
| 22:57.47 | KarlThePagan | but the Draenai got junk in da trunk |
| 22:57.51 | MoonWitch | yes I am female, deal with it |
| 22:57.55 | Ellipsis | Draenei got it goin' on upstairs and down |
| 22:58.01 | MoonWitch | true |
| 22:58.04 | Arrowmaster | oddly i have 3 orc, 1 tauren, and 1 blood elf characters |
| 22:58.11 | MoonWitch | huge ass ... and a tail which is kinky ... |
| 22:58.19 | Mudkips | have you seen a BE female in full crafted epic shadow resist gear? |
| 22:58.20 | Harxx | nooo, I finally figured that BW mod was causing my game menu etc to get stuck. |
| 22:58.22 | MoonWitch | draenei's can TAIL themselves -_- |
| 22:58.23 | Ellipsis | nothin wrong with a little kink |
| 22:58.24 | Harxx | but now it works again :( |
| 22:58.27 | Mudkips | the clothing is so skimpy |
| 22:58.31 | Mudkips | blizzard r perverted |
| 22:58.38 | Ellipsis | Mudkips: ....screenie? |
| 22:58.39 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 22:59.01 | Mudkips | I don't have any at hand |
| 22:59.01 | MoonWitch | thanks for the vote of confidence |
| 22:59.17 | MoonWitch | yall are probably one of the most accepting ppl i know |
| 22:59.48 | Mudkips | draenei ... blue skinned space goats |
| 22:59.54 | NeoTron | MoonWitch: well... obligatory - screenshot? |
| 22:59.55 | Mudkips | i heard they stink |
| 23:00.15 | MoonWitch | NeoTron, of what? |
| 23:00.26 | Mudkips | bewbs or gtfo |
| 23:00.33 | MoonWitch | Mudkips, depends on which draenei you've took a sniff off |
| 23:00.42 | KarlThePagan | oh NeoTron by the way... the biggest reason I'm leveling cat... it's a Ghost Saber :3 |
| 23:01.21 | KarlThePagan | so... yea I suppose I'll suffer the food issue for that |
| 23:01.57 | MoonWitch | http://server6.pictiger.com/img/713913/picture-hosting/wowscrnshot-081907-155516-.jpg |
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| 23:02.29 | Mudkips | profit! |
| 23:02.43 | MoonWitch | Mudkips, that are bewbs ;) |
| 23:02.50 | Mudkips | Ynarah, that name sounds ethnic |
| 23:03.05 | NeoTron | MoonWitch: "<MoonWitch> draenei's can TAIL themselves -_-" |
| 23:03.29 | MoonWitch | It's from Serenity/Firefly .. the Companion Inara |
| 23:03.36 | MoonWitch | aka the hooker |
| 23:03.55 | Harxx | got a question: why does the bug stop occuring once you try to find out what's causing it? :( |
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| 23:04.18 | Mudkips | MoonWitch, what hosting service is that? |
| 23:04.21 | MoonWitch | Inara in firefly is a high society hooker I just thought she was hot ... thus named my char |
| 23:04.26 | MoonWitch | pictiger |
| 23:04.27 | Corey | wheres your high level chars :o |
| 23:04.30 | Diao | because once you've disabled/reenabled it the setting that was causing a problem got deleted? |
| 23:04.32 | Corey | all those are low |
| 23:04.32 | Mudkips | err stupid question |
| 23:04.41 | MoonWitch | my highest is 39 |
| 23:04.43 | MoonWitch | that's all |
| 23:04.48 | Harxx | Diao: is that a real possibility? |
| 23:05.00 | buu | How come all of the female races in wow look exactly like human females? |
| 23:05.00 | MoonWitch | I spend more time tinkering with addons and UIs than playing |
| 23:05.02 | Diao | could be |
| 23:05.03 | Diao | lol |
| 23:05.22 | Harxx | took me whole night of disabling/enabling addons |
| 23:05.26 | MoonWitch | i think they should have bigger boobs |
| 23:05.28 | Mudkips | buu, did you have your lunch today? |
| 23:05.31 | buu | NO. |
| 23:06.22 | Corey | whats more fun, a rogue or a hunter lol |
| 23:06.40 | buu | Mudkips: Seriously, they do. |
| 23:06.50 | Mudkips | I dunno |
| 23:07.03 | Mudkips | human females have big hips |
| 23:07.07 | buu | I mean, aside from the obviously trivial things like skin color and the occasional horn or tail or something. |
| 23:07.12 | Mudkips | night elves have a more boyish figure |
| 23:07.31 | buu | ?! |
| 23:07.34 | Mudkips | draenei females have a ghetto booty |
| 23:07.40 | MoonWitch | yeah they do |
| 23:07.40 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 23:07.46 | MoonWitch | I like gnome warriors |
| 23:07.47 | Mudkips | there are not gnome females |
| 23:07.50 | Mudkips | no** |
| 23:07.55 | buu | gnomes need to be deleted. |
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| 23:07.58 | Mudkips | and we DO NOT speak of female dwarves |
| 23:08.06 | MoonWitch | they look sooooooo cute when storming towards an enemy |
| 23:08.25 | buu | They look so.. stupid. |
| 23:08.30 | MoonWitch | it's cute though |
| 23:08.36 | MoonWitch | gnome mages and locks I do like |
| 23:08.36 | buu | It completely destroys any vestige of believability wow has =[ |
| 23:08.40 | buu | It makes me cry. |
| 23:08.41 | Arrowmaster | but the casting animation is the best |
| 23:08.45 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 23:08.52 | NeoTron | wow has believability? |
| 23:08.59 | MoonWitch | LOL NeoTron true to that |
| 23:09.01 | buu | NeoTron: Not much, but I can pretend. |
| 23:09.08 | MoonWitch | it's like the carebears... |
| 23:09.08 | NeoTron | a gnome lock in the guild reminds me of papa smurf |
| 23:09.09 | Mudkips | undead casters have the best casting animations |
| 23:09.13 | MoonWitch | awww carebears |
| 23:09.25 | buu | NeoTron: I mean, when you have an 8ft tauren in full plate going head to head with a 12 foot ogre, it looks pretty damn good. |
| 23:09.46 | buu | NeoTron: I mean, obviously it's just preset animations and such, but I find it gets close enough for me to more or less overlook that. |
| 23:09.52 | buu | But when gnomes are involved.. |
| 23:09.55 | MoonWitch | just imagine that 12ft ogre .. getting whipped by a gnome female warrior :P |
| 23:10.10 | MoonWitch | just funny |
| 23:10.11 | Mudkips | gnome female whirlwinds >_< |
| 23:10.14 | Mudkips | they tiptoe |
| 23:10.28 | buu | MoonWitch: And bam, all you can think is that what you see has nothing to do with what is going on. |
| 23:10.39 | buu | MoonWitch: It's all just a set of numbers and equations. |
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| 23:10.57 | MoonWitch | yeah but the eye wants something too |
| 23:10.59 | MoonWitch | infact |
| 23:11.00 | Harxx | like gnome + unstoppable force = ??? |
| 23:11.07 | MoonWitch | I will make a gnome something |
| 23:11.11 | Harxx | that kind of equations? |
| 23:11.22 | Corey | so whats more fun/useful for pvp a rogue or a hunter? |
| 23:11.30 | MoonWitch | rogue |
| 23:11.31 | Harxx | rogue |
| 23:11.38 | buu | Hunters are great if all you do is be lame in bgs. |
| 23:11.48 | buu | If you actually want to win a fair fight, not so much. |
| 23:12.03 | Corey | i mean more for arenas like 2v2 or 3v3 really |
| 23:12.16 | Harxx | rogue |
| 23:12.16 | buu | Yes, exactly, hunters fail. |
| 23:12.17 | Codayus | Hunters are pretty good in 2v3. ...so are rogues, of course. |
| 23:12.35 | buu | Hunters are generally hilariously bad in arenas. |
| 23:13.04 | Bruners | hunters are good if they are allowed to stand still and shot |
| 23:13.20 | Corey | i try to LoS them when i can |
| 23:13.31 | buu | They're trivial to los or deadzone. |
| 23:13.40 | *** join/#wowace LaGGy (n=LaGGy@ip72-203-136-199.br.br.cox.net) |
| 23:13.59 | Harxx | for example, you cant kill shadowpriest, warlock, mostly warriors, paladin, hmmm often mages etc etc |
| 23:14.19 | Harxx | if you take 100% skilled hunter vs. 100% skilled other class |
| 23:14.22 | Harxx | just my opinio |
| 23:14.23 | Harxx | n |
| 23:15.33 | Mudkips | is anyong using the new versions of firefox? |
| 23:15.41 | Corey | i use opera myself |
| 23:15.46 | Mudkips | I've been thinking of reverting back to ver 1.5 |
| 23:15.50 | Harxx | mozilla here. |
| 23:15.55 | Kebinusan | its ok arcane shot will dispel in 2.3 |
| 23:15.58 | Mudkips | i've been using opera when WoW is on because firefox leaks memory |
| 23:16.00 | Harxx | ehm seamonkey nowdays |
| 23:16.02 | Corey | i used firefox when opera had a huge memory leak but then switched back |
| 23:16.03 | Mudkips | and my game just shits on itself |
| 23:16.39 | Mudkips | I"m using opera right now |
| 23:16.55 | Mudkips | I forgot about this site www.oldversion.com |
| 23:16.55 | Kebinusan | I have big problems with cpu load when viewing ajax crap and memory leakage |
| 23:17.05 | Mudkips | originally I was looking for an old version of winamp |
| 23:17.08 | Harxx | grrr, can't fix WoW bug because it suddenly vanished. |
| 23:17.09 | Kebinusan | I just cant get used to the feal of opera |
| 23:17.15 | Harxx | after I spent whole night looking for it. |
| 23:17.16 | Mudkips | the 5.x winamps are horribly bloadted |
| 23:17.19 | Mudkips | bloated* |
| 23:17.28 | LaGGy | anyone have any clue why after i ran WAU2 earlier today, my bartender3 doesnt work anymore? |
| 23:17.37 | Ellipsis | what's the error message? |
| 23:17.39 | LaGGy | it says its enabled, but its just not there |
| 23:17.47 | LaGGy | theres no error message, nothing |
| 23:17.57 | Mudkips | sounds like that guy from earlier |
| 23:17.59 | Ellipsis | enable "display lua errors" and tell us what the error is |
| 23:18.09 | LaGGy | it is enabled |
| 23:18.11 | Mudkips | I forgot his name ~_~ |
| 23:18.19 | LaGGy | the minimap icon is gone as well |
| 23:18.21 | Ellipsis | Mudkips: sounds like the guys we get in here all the time >_> |
| 23:19.12 | LaGGy | hrmm |
| 23:19.15 | NeoTron | so does it ever happen that KT uses his shield early or something? |
| 23:19.30 | Harxx | ellipsis, do I need to have a script to show/hide each individual pitbull party frame? |
| 23:19.37 | NeoTron | on our first successful pyroblast avoidance the second pyroblast was interrupted about 2 seconds after cast |
| 23:19.38 | Harxx | or just 1 resizing script? |
| 23:19.51 | NeoTron | I just can't imagine we, in our rather chaotic setup, managed to burn it down that fast |
| 23:19.55 | Corey | next question, blood elf or undead rogue ;d |
| 23:19.59 | Mudkips | the main reason I still use firefox for browsing is because of adblock |
| 23:20.01 | LaGGy | i was getting an atlasloot error...so i just disabled it and tried again...now i get a bartender3 error...missing library DewDrop-2.0 |
| 23:20.03 | Harxx | UD rogue |
| 23:20.44 | NeoTron | Corey: If you can stand staring at an UD rogue all day... go for it :P |
| 23:20.48 | Ellipsis | there ya go LaGGy |
| 23:21.05 | Ellipsis | if you are using embedded libs, then update and it will probably fix itself |
| 23:21.08 | Corey | i liked the UD racials better too but i heard lots of people re-rolled BE cause its racials are better for pvp |
| 23:21.08 | Arrowmaster | Harxx: wow somebody else that actually uses seamonkey |
| 23:21.15 | Ellipsis | if you're using disembedded then you ought to know how to deal with that errror yourself |
| 23:21.52 | Ellipsis | Harxx: many people like to keep their scripts all in one panel, but it's up to you |
| 23:21.54 | Harxx | well, you guys could at least recommend me some good firewall :) comodo is getting on my nerves. |
| 23:22.00 | Corey | that and their stealth stance is awesome! :P |
| 23:22.17 | Harxx | Ellipsis : thanks |
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| 23:22.49 | chexsum | i wouldnt trade my belf rogue for a undead rogue |
| 23:23.26 | chexsum | aracne torent is a nice addition in pvp |
| 23:23.40 | aestil | vhaar, if al'ar's meteor lands at the same time we get a 'meteor soon' warning, is that just the nature of the randomness of that ability, or is it possible an older version of BW someone else is running is messing us up? or are there any other explanations. |
| 23:23.56 | aestil | is funky on? |
| 23:25.16 | Ellipsis | ping Nandini |
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| 23:27.34 | Harxx | grr, I seriously want this bug to come back |
| 23:27.35 | MoonWitch | god I love my headset |
| 23:27.44 | Harxx | I dont want my game to get stuck during som raid. |
| 23:29.00 | jon_a | hi can anybody help me with lua coding |
| 23:30.15 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 23:30.16 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 23:30.33 | aestil | anyone else stuck at authenticating today? |
| 23:30.39 | Harxx | nope |
| 23:31.02 | aestil | why am i so full of fail? |
| 23:31.03 | Harxx | but still gotta ask thi again: what could possibly cause my game menu or spell book to get stuck |
| 23:31.13 | Harxx | I mean that pressing esc doesnt do anything |
| 23:31.15 | aestil | in combat? |
| 23:31.24 | Harxx | raid/combat |
| 23:31.28 | Harxx | cant really determine |
| 23:31.35 | aestil | if you are out of combat, it lets you close it? |
| 23:31.38 | Ellipsis | Harxx: taint |
| 23:31.40 | Harxx | also raid/character tabs are moved to middle of the screen |
| 23:31.53 | aestil | Ellipsis: you win at beating me to that punch. |
| 23:31.58 | Ellipsis | ;D |
| 23:32.10 | Harxx | seriously: it vanished about 10 minutes ago while I was enabling/disabling addons. |
| 23:32.14 | aestil | i will pour out an iced venti 2 splenda black tea to the curb in your honor. |
| 23:32.22 | Harxx | now everything is enabled again and I can't get to duplicate the bug |
| 23:32.39 | Ellipsis | Harxx, you can pastey a list of your addons and we can try and see if there's any known issues with any of them, but no guarantees of helpfulness there :P |
| 23:32.46 | Ellipsis | aestil: <3 |
| 23:33.08 | Harxx | ok, tell me best way to do it without writing down all 179 folders.. |
| 23:33.53 | aestil | i can't wait to see the eepanels Ellipsis, will i splooge on sight of them? |
| 23:33.55 | Harxx | I obviously don;t want the bug to occur during the raid so need to at least find out whats causing it. |
| 23:34.46 | Ellipsis | aestil: no, I have a reputation for horrendously ugly eePanels |
| 23:34.48 | durcyn | Harxx: dir /on/ad/b > list.txt |
| 23:35.06 | aestil | but, you worked so closely with me. didn't i rub off on you [lolpun] |
| 23:35.06 | Ellipsis | but that's because I go for functional graphics rather than eye-candy |
| 23:35.09 | Ellipsis | most of the time >_> |
| 23:35.17 | Ellipsis | did you? I didn't notice ;) |
| 23:35.24 | NivFreak | hrmmm |
| 23:35.26 | aestil | burn. |
| 23:35.29 | NivFreak | I can't auth |
| 23:35.36 | aestil | me as well niv |
| 23:35.42 | aestil | auth server DOWN |
| 23:35.44 | aestil | ;) |
| 23:35.49 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 23:35.52 | Ellipsis | o snap! |
| 23:35.54 | Gnarfoz | arrgh |
| 23:36.06 | Gnarfoz | I hate stack overflows |
| 23:36.14 | NivFreak | aestil: damn =/ |
| 23:36.27 | durcyn | not down, just severely slow |
| 23:36.31 | aestil | We've also added approximately 60 new quests in Dustwallow Marsh. This should help players who find themselves lacking quests in the 30-40 range. The Steamwheedle Cartel is building the new town of Mudsprocket in south-west Dustwallow Marsh, so you'll have to wait until construction is complete to learn more about these changes. |
| 23:37.03 | NivFreak | ah, I finally got in |
| 23:37.07 | NivFreak | but I can't log in on the forums |
| 23:37.08 | NivFreak | fail |
| 23:37.25 | Harxx | durcyn: what does "dir /on/ad/b > list.txt" mean? I do have the text file, just dont understand the rest |
| 23:37.45 | Harxx | dont take me for total ignorant, Im just not used to it. |
| 23:38.05 | durcyn | Harxx: uh, stdout from directory listing into a text file. copy that to pastey. |
| 23:38.23 | Ellipsis | so I need advice |
| 23:38.41 | Ellipsis | one big widescreen monitor, or three 1280x1024 screens? |
| 23:38.43 | Harxx | well, I simply coppied the list from WTF folder, seems easier. |
| 23:38.54 | durcyn | oh, that works too. |
| 23:39.00 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: I love my 30" + rotated 20" |
| 23:39.13 | Harxx | sorry, never used taht command you wrote down before. Ill try ti anyway |
| 23:39.28 | durcyn | Harxx: nah, not necessary. |
| 23:40.13 | Harxx | could you give me an example of that command? like "dir C:\ Program Files > list.txt" ? |
| 23:40.25 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 23:40.51 | Ellipsis | 24" 1920x1200? or is that too small for that resolution :/ |
| 23:40.52 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: 2x20" widescreen |
| 23:40.55 | Harxx | never tired to learn something new. |
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| 23:41.03 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla: not doing 2, it's 1 or 3 |
| 23:41.11 | Stanzilla | O.o |
| 23:41.13 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 23:41.18 | Stanzilla | I got one 24" |
| 23:41.18 | Ellipsis | I don't want a split down the middle of my screen |
| 23:42.11 | *** part/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 23:42.16 | Harxx | ellipsis, should I paste the list of all my addons here? (179 lines tho) |
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| 23:42.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 23:42.34 | Ellipsis | NO |
| 23:42.37 | Ellipsis | put it on pastey |
| 23:42.38 | Harxx | phew. |
| 23:42.40 | Ellipsis | we've said it like 3 times |
| 23:42.54 | Harxx | I have no idea what that is. My mistake. |
| 23:43.04 | Harxx | never heard that term. |
| 23:43.13 | Ellipsis | check the channel topic |
| 23:44.31 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001234 |
| 23:44.44 | Ellipsis | such a good deal, the only downside is it's glossy :( |
| 23:44.51 | Stanzilla | ewww |
| 23:44.54 | Stanzilla | glossy sucks |
| 23:44.58 | Stanzilla | I got a Dell one |
| 23:45.03 | Stanzilla | it's a BenQ actually |
| 23:45.05 | Stanzilla | and I love it |
| 23:45.16 | Harxx | http://ace.pastey.net/75059-1vbd (sorry for the trouble) |
| 23:45.19 | Gnarfoz | don't. get. glossy. displays. :p |
| 23:45.25 | Ellipsis | I *hate* glossy screens |
| 23:45.34 | Stanzilla | yeah they suck |
| 23:45.35 | Gnarfoz | at least not if you plan on actually using it for longer than an hour or so :> |
| 23:45.38 | Ellipsis | I actually have one now because I couldn't get a replacement screen for this laptop with a normal finish |
| 23:45.44 | Ellipsis | it makes me cry =[ |
| 23:46.15 | Gnarfoz | I'd say you could use it as a shaving mirror, but you're not terrible prone to beard growth, are you now ;> |
| 23:46.32 | Mudkips | lol |
| 23:46.45 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: not generally, no |
| 23:46.49 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 23:47.23 | Stanzilla | for laptops it's okay |
| 23:47.25 | Stanzilla | ..in dark rooms |
| 23:47.39 | Megalon | whoever uses laptops in darkrooms |
| 23:47.42 | Megalon | :S |
| 23:48.00 | Ellipsis | I have my laptop facing away from all light sources now |
| 23:48.12 | Ellipsis | of course that kinda defeats the purpose of having a laptop |
| 23:48.20 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: sssh :p |
| 23:48.20 | Ellipsis | since anywhere else in the room it makes my eyes bleed |
| 23:49.43 | kadrahil | login server go boom :( |
| 23:49.51 | NivFreak | yar |
| 23:49.53 | NivFreak | blizz fails |
| 23:49.58 | NivFreak | it's not maintenance time yet! |
| 23:49.59 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:50.13 | Kaydeethree | auth's been shaky all day |
| 23:50.19 | kadrahil | whee, it let me in |
| 23:50.37 | Gnarfoz | phew, it's not maintenance for a whole day, for me ^^ |
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| 23:59.07 | genetik- | what ever happened to the keybindings module for prat? |
