IRC log for #wowace on 20071006

00:00.04Coreyahh
00:00.11Coreynow i will :P
00:00.16cncfanaticsgood girl
00:00.26ArrowmasterIronhand: you could use the default fixed cost module and just add dkp manually for every boss and at the time intervals
00:00.30cncfanaticscryogen, ur gonna manage with ur module ?
00:00.31cryogengot it
00:00.39ArrowmasterIronhand: or use bossauction without auctioning
00:00.42cncfanaticswhat was up ?
00:00.54cncfanaticss/up/wrong/
00:01.27cryogeni wasnt checking the return values of UnitBuff and UnitDebuff properly
00:01.46IronhandArrowmaster: thanks, think I'll have a look at bossauction then
00:02.29*** part/#wowace Gizzmo__ (n=gizzmo@24.113.34.233)
00:03.08cncfanaticsoh god
00:03.11cncfanaticssome stupid druid
00:03.13cncfanaticslvl 70
00:03.19cncfanaticsgot NOTHING better to do then camp tarren mill
00:03.24cncfanaticsand gank lowbies out of stealth
00:03.26cncfanaticsget a fucking life
00:04.32cncfanaticslol
00:04.38cncfanaticsI'm gonna go to bed
00:04.38Polarinalol
00:04.46cncfanaticscryogen, plx commit when ur done with that module, it rocks :)à
00:05.10cncfanaticsg'night
00:05.27Ellipsishaha I fail
00:05.34Astikathis is so ghetto : but it works: /script BagnonFrame0:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT", xOfs+(GetScreenWidth()-BagnonFrame0:GetRight()), yOfs)
00:06.17Astikaer, i called a GetPoint before that ^^
00:06.45Stan3Astika: what does that do?
00:07.00Coreythats cool
00:07.27Astikaif i change res from 1280x1024 to 1920x1200, to moves the bagnon frame over to the right
00:07.34Astikato=it
00:07.56Coreycan you update groups as you go yet?
00:08.11Coreydidnt see that under groups
00:08.25Astika?
00:08.51Coreyoh im talkin to cnc lol
00:09.06Astikaoh, lol
00:09.12Coreybut i think he left now that i look up
00:10.41cryogenhmm
00:11.03cryogenspecial events lib doesnt update fast enough
00:11.37KaeltenI think I may have lost some logs :s
00:11.59harldephinhuh? my mouseover-macros stopped working with pitbull
00:16.09*** part/#wowace YourMomsHero (n=cirish@74.202.196.195)
00:17.44FinKaelten: ?
00:17.53Kaeltenlooking for access logs
00:17.59KaeltenI have a 4.5GB one and a 2.2GB one
00:18.00Kaeltenlol
00:18.25Finthey're not autorotated or anything? run out of disk space recently
00:18.27Fin+?
00:20.26Kaeltenlol
00:20.37Kaeltennope got plenty of space
00:22.49Findu / > /tmp/du.out && -x xdu && xdu < /tmp/du.out # ftw
00:24.49Astikaif you anchor one frame to another with a function, will it clear on a /rl?
00:26.55CIA-1203ackis * r51092 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
00:26.55CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
00:26.55CIA-12- Added sorting/filtering functionality to GUI display
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00:35.50DustwhisperQuick
00:35.52Dustwhisperhaving a anal bug
00:35.55Dustwhisperi cant jump for some reason
00:36.00aestilWTF
00:36.05aestilan anal bug?
00:36.06aestilWTF
00:36.13aestilhow is that the problem of WoW
00:36.19Dustwhisperhaha yeye mt =D
00:36.26Ellipsis...ew
00:36.28Dustwhispersometimes my space locks on counterspell (shift+space)
00:36.29CIA-1203recluse * r51093 10NiHao/NiHao.lua:
00:36.29CIA-12NiHao:
00:36.29CIA-12- Add leading zeroes for displayed text where needed.
00:36.29CIA-12- Colorize money and items.
00:36.30aestilalso, you probably accidently unkeybound spacebar.
00:36.31Dustwhisperinstead of jump (space)
00:36.34Dustwhisperwithout capslock/shift
00:36.36Ellipsisthat's a Blizz bug
00:36.44Ellipsisthey are working on a fix for next patch
00:36.50Ellipsisand to unstick it, hit right shift
00:36.54Coreyyea mine locks too somtimes
00:37.19Coreysometimes*
00:38.04Megalonhm, you mean that you sometimes get your keys rebound? like back to standard?
00:38.35AckisI'm trying to make my frame look like a blizz frame... looking in the blizz files, it says a texture is: TradeSkillFramePortrait does that mean it's a reference to something else, or is that a term I can use in my mod?
00:38.56Megalongot that bug in av once, was like wtfpwnd :c
00:42.43Gnarfozit's shift getting stuck
00:42.45Gnarfozand it sucks
00:42.54Gnarfozand hitting right shift solves it, most of the time
00:42.59Gnarfoz(or rather: the other shift)
00:43.47Megalonah k :o
00:45.42Coreyso what does your addon add to fb cryogen?
00:47.00Antiarc" Not a lot is finalized right now, but we are currently planning to make Improved Berserker Stance provide threat reduction by 2/4/6/8/10% while in Berserker Stance."
00:48.18Coreypff tell them to work in a aggro dump somewhere instead lol
00:48.37Arrowmastertell them to fucking nerf warrior damage already
00:49.03Arrowmasteri got hit with a fucking 3k cleave today
00:49.08Arrowmastera fucking cleave
00:49.11Coreylol
00:49.52Antiarc"On a related note, for items that grant attack power in Cat, Bear, Dire Bear, and Moonkin forms, in general we are planning to increase the amount of attack power they give."
00:50.10Coreywoohoo?
00:51.07Arrowmasteratleast todays WSG wasnt as bad as one a few months ago where i was getting hit by 4k mortalstrikes and 4k heroic strikes from 3 different warriors
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00:58.51aestilAntiarc: wow, thats freaking crazy.
00:59.05aestilifi they do that they'll be like rogues - feitn and vanish?
00:59.17aestilbut they wear plate and can tank when needed?
00:59.21aestilhella utility.
00:59.39AntiarcNo vanish, no
00:59.47AntiarcBut they'll have comparable passive threat reduction
01:05.27CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r572 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/35_37_Arathi_Highlands.lua: TourGuide - Indie fails, yet again
01:06.11Nandiniit's starting to seem more and more like it will be a whole new WoW when that patch comes out
01:07.40AntiarcHahahah. Holy crap
01:07.40Gnarfoz...again
01:07.44AntiarcI just found the worst rogue in the existance of everything
01:07.53Gnarfozmirror?
01:07.54Gnarfoz:>
01:08.00Nandinii'm sure my druid is a worse rogue than he is
01:08.02Gnarfozj/k :>
01:08.09clad|awaydurcyn: I would ask that you please leave Dongle out of this, as it has no relevance in any current topic.  Thanks.
01:08.12Antiarchttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2200220268&sid=1&pageNo=2#29
01:08.19AntiarcRead that app.
01:08.21clad|awayIf you have any questions about Dongle, please direct them to me.
01:08.24AntiarcThat is legendary quality right there.
01:08.58PaeneWhat's the difference between SVN Update and SVN Commit?
01:09.11Gnarfozread vs. write
01:09.18Towbar"!With a fast capability of building 5 point (under 30 sec in raids)"
01:09.20TowbarROFL
01:09.25Towbarunder 30 secs!
01:09.33clad|sleepAntiarc: lolololol
01:09.35AntiarcPaene: Commit writes new data to the repository. Update pulls any updates from the repository.
01:09.40Paeneah ok
01:09.42Paenethanks
01:09.47CIA-1203paene * r51094 10Cryolysis/:
01:09.47CIA-12Cryolysis:
01:09.47CIA-12-
01:09.51Paeneoops
01:09.57Paeneforgot to put the log message lol
01:10.00AntiarcSS daggers with a -threat cloak enchant so he doesn't have to feint.
01:10.03AntiarcFreakin. Win.
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01:10.40Towbar"i dont like t4 set proc and im not the type of guy that wears epics
01:10.40Towbarjust to pay 20g repair
01:10.44Towbarlol
01:11.08PaeneOne more SVN question, I accidentally checked out to the wrong folder, how do I undo that?
01:11.14*** join/#wowace nogudnik (n=nogudnik@mail.exiter.com)
01:11.25Towbarrofl i never backstab cause you have to go behnd
01:11.26Towbarhahahah
01:11.34Towbarwhats a parry??? whats a block???
01:11.36AntiarcPaene: Delete the folder and check out the correct one
01:11.40PaeneI checked out to the Desktop...so SVN is monitoring the desktop
01:11.53Nandinioh my
01:11.57Antiarchttp://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zul%27jin&n=Sagrhandem is his armory link
01:12.10AntiarcHe's actually wielding daggers with 44 in Combat and no Imp Backstab.
01:12.41Nandinidelete the .svn folder on your desktop
01:12.43Towbarand doesnt want to loose battlemaster on his offhand
01:12.43AntiarcPaene: You can delete the .svn folder, and that effectively severs it from the repository
01:12.45Nandinithen delete the files off it
01:12.50Towbarbattlemaster = threat..
01:12.52clad|sleephe has suprise attacks
01:13.02clad|sleepclearly the +10% ss damage means he can use daggers
01:13.03clad|sleepDUH
01:13.37Xelopherismeh, had a rogue app to my guild with the cookie cutter combat sword raiding spec, but using daggers (and dagger specialization, of course)
01:13.38Towbargot a 4130 evis on shade today boosting alts, and a 2300 sinister
01:13.47Towbari bet that guy would own me on meters..
01:13.49PaeneAntiarc: Thanks :)
01:14.05AntiarcTowbar: Have you ever had the opportunity to DPS on VR trash with a priest MCing an engineer?
01:14.23Towbarnope
01:14.24XelopherisDon't the engineers give a huge damage buff?
01:14.25AntiarcThey have an AC debuff that takes them into negative AC or something. At any rate, they become super vulnerable to melee
01:14.29Xelopherisor are they the healing ones?
01:14.33Towbar:o
01:14.35Towbarreally?
01:14.36AntiarcI landed a 3100 SS two weeks ago
01:14.38Towbar!
01:14.41Xelopherishrm, we've been sheeping them...
01:14.43AntiarcIt was amazing
01:14.52Towbarmy biggest sinister was 2980 opn kael
01:14.55Towbaron*
01:14.55XelopherisIf only you could put that kind of armor debuff onto VR himself ><
01:15.03AntiarcXelopheris: You could, in theory
01:15.05Towbarhaha must try that next week :)
01:15.07AntiarcJust keep an engineer MC'd
01:15.14AntiarcBut you'd run the risk of your priest getting orbed
01:15.20Xelopherisyeah
01:15.31CodayusI wonder if silence breaks a channeled MC?
01:15.40Towbarcan you keep him MC'd the whole VR fight?
01:15.46AntiarcYou'd have to re-MC, but sure
01:15.51Xelopherismelee heavy guild means: record aran kill, 70% mana remaining. Record gruul: 9 growths. VR: /cry
01:15.53Towbarsay a rotation between holy priest and 3 SP?
01:16.03Nandiniugh i have that stupid rascal flatts remake of "life is a highway" on my brain now. stupid commercials!
01:16.03AntiarcWhat? Melee is amazing on VR
01:16.06CIA-1203xionglingfeng * r51095 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua:
01:16.06CIA-12LibDogTag-2.0 - Chs updated.
01:16.06CIA-12Leialyn use the ASCII mode save the file and broke the data.so I have to use the old file instead of the new one.
01:16.06XelopherisMC doesn't have DRs in pve
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01:16.11Xelopherisnot really, 9k armor really hurts
01:16.12Towbaryea i own teh VR fight
01:16.12AntiarcJust keep them in through pounding and chain heal spam them
01:16.17Xelopherisespecially when you don't have a single resto shaman
01:16.18CodayusTowbar: In theory, maybe.  In practice, it'd be really really hard.  Just re-MCing once before he owns the priest is tricky.
01:16.25Towbar2 x shammys rank 3 CH spamming
01:16.28AntiarcThe lack of resto shaman hurts
01:16.33AntiarcMake a priest get CoH or something I guess
01:16.35Towbarsunders and WSC poping is nice dps
01:16.47CIA-1203xionglingfeng * r51096 10LibParser-4.0/LibParser-4.0.lua: LibParser-4.0 - Chs updated.
01:16.49Xelopherisyeah, both our resto shamans live together and, well, the one that worked got fired, so they've been afk lately
01:16.50Antiarchttp://wowwebstats.com/hpdjv23ijym65?s=8073-8563 <-- VR last week
01:16.55Towbar2 shammys can rank 3 spam all day in a raid
01:17.02CodayusTwo CoH priests can keep up 5 melee on VR very easily in my experience, assuming they're in the same group.
01:17.19XelopherisThe problem with CoH priests is that if you want two CoH priests, that means 3 healing priests
01:17.19Towbarnice thing about CH is it will bleed over to tanks too
01:17.33Xelopherisbecause Imp DS is just too much to lose for CH, so you have to have at least on epriest with it
01:17.53CIA-1203xionglingfeng * r51097 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - Add Chinese Simplify translation.
01:18.01CodayusXelopheris: Arguable, but yes, most guilds will make that call.
01:18.06CIA-1203xionglingfeng * r51098 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - Chs updated.
01:18.07Gnarfozyeah, since we've been keeping melee on VR all the time, kills are way smoother
01:18.27Towbar4 rogues and a bear at every lootreaver kill
01:18.32Towbargrp 2 dps :)
01:18.44Xelopherisberr is 4 tank cat is 4 fite
01:19.09CodayusWe're doing TK tonight, and our only resto shaman just said she can't make it.  Leaving us with 6 healers, 1 of whom is a CoH priest.  Hmm.
01:19.26GnarfozI gotta look up what CoH does
01:19.26Towbarbears are nice for getting and holding a ton of aggro
01:19.33CodayusVR is going to be just so much FUN.
01:19.35Gnarfoznever seen it used since BC before :D
01:19.36Xelopherisyou bet we are :)
01:19.37AntiarcBears are amazing on VR because of their high dodge
01:19.46Xelopherislast time we tried VR, I held aggro from 90 > 60%
01:19.56Nandiniagi does so much for druids, it makes me happy
01:19.59CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r573 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/ (17 files):
01:19.59CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide:
01:19.59CIA-12tekkub-wow:  - I didn't fail. I kept style. Fixed the rest.
01:20.11Towbarour MT bear if needed is nuts, even after a knockback he got aggro on 4 part t5 tanks
01:20.11XelopherisI also got a ridiculously high 62% crit rate (32 on character sheet raid buffed in bear)
01:20.36Xelopheristhe reason bears rock for VR is the ability to effectively build threat without depending on rage from taking damage
01:20.38Gnarfozour MT bear is really slow in generating aggro :<
01:20.48Towbarreally?
01:20.48Antiarc...what
01:20.52Towbarare you serious?>
01:20.53Xelopherisgkick
01:20.54AntiarcHow do you fail at druid tanking, really?
01:20.58Gnarfozhe's a clicker >_>
01:20.59AntiarcYou have like two buttons
01:21.00Xelopheris...
01:21.02Towbarso?
01:21.07AntiarcAnd you just press them over and over and you get a billion threat
01:21.12Gnarfozdon't ask me
01:21.19Xelopheristhree b uttons, Antiarc
01:21.21Towbarbear threat is the only thing to come close to searing pain
01:21.23Nandini3 buttons in a maxxed rage situation, but it's not hard, even if you were to click
01:21.25GnarfozI keep waiting 5% dmg on gruul and others to not out-threat him
01:21.25XelopherisMaul Mangle and Lacerate
01:21.32CIA-1203paene * r51099 10Cryolysis/Cryolysis.toc:
01:21.32CIA-12Cryolysis:
01:21.32CIA-12-Minor changes to the .toc
01:21.35AntiarcStill!
01:21.39GnarfozSTILL
01:21.43AntiarcYou could bear tank with a pirate keyboard.
01:21.48Gnarfozyes. I wish it were different :D
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01:21.52Antiarchttp://newsdesigner.com/blog/images/pirate.jpg
01:22.00XelopherisG15 keyboard while bear tanking = afk-fest
01:22.05Gnarfozlol
01:22.07Nandinii'm curious to try the threat enchant for my gloves
01:22.12Nandinii'm afraid i would miss having the agi tho
01:22.22Xelopherisyou a druid or war?
01:22.23Towbardepends how much mitigation you have
01:22.26Nandinidruid
01:22.28Towbarand if threat is an issue
01:22.29Antiarc2% threat isn't really worth it, generally
01:22.31Xelopheris15 agi is more than 1 dodge
01:22.35AntiarcEspecially for a druid, since you give up the agi
01:22.35Xelopherisand druid threat is naturally huge
01:22.39Towbarnah as a druid you rely on dodge
01:22.43Towbarand crit for aggro
01:22.50Nandiniand crit for self-healing :)
01:22.58Towbar15 agi is 0.5% dodge for a bear?
01:23.14Antiarc15 AGI is also at least 30 AC. Is that modified by the bearform modifier?
01:23.14Nandinimuch more than that at level 70
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01:23.28Xelopheris15 agi is 1.3% dodge for a bear
01:23.40Xelopherisbearform modifier is only for straight armor amounts on items
01:23.43Towbar1.3% dodge > 2% threat
01:23.46Nandiniour modifier only works on armor ac
01:23.55ravagernlindustrial:ping
01:23.56Gnarfozas there's druids around: how much AC do you need to reach the 75% cap?
01:24.05Towbar31k at lvl 70
01:24.06Nandinii think 38k
01:24.12Xelopheris35,880
01:24.16Towbar35.2k for 73?
01:24.19Towbar35.8
01:24.21Gnarfozhuh oO so much
01:24.27Xelopheris35,879 to be exact
01:24.29Xelopheristhat's not that much
01:24.33AntiarcMy rogue has 4k AC!
01:24.34Industrialravagernl: pong
01:24.35Antiarc*cry*
01:24.38XelopherisI'm in 3/5 t4 and I still sit at 32k
01:24.48Industrial<PROTECTED>
01:24.49Towbarget one more bit for 2k more
01:24.50Nandiniyup, it is doable
01:24.52GnarfozI asked him how much AC and mitigation he had, earlier, and he said ~28k and 75%? oO
01:24.55AntiarcOh, my mistake. I have 3.5k. In my PVP gear.
01:24.55Xelopherisif I get my malorne pants and finish my boots of natural grace, I'll be edging the cap
01:24.59ravagernlindustrial: just tried your ouf layout but the hp text doesn't show :(
01:25.00Towbargot any SSC belt or boots?
01:25.08XelopherisGot the SSC belt, working on the boots
01:25.16Nandini28k may be 75% vs. a level 70 mob
01:25.19Towbararmor on rings?
01:25.21Xelopheris(just got the pattern two nights ago, no badges or nethers, and I'm not on a WoW worthy PC atm)
01:25.25Industrialravagernl: yes, that is a bug - and I can't find out why. I have been playing without hp text for a month and can't really say I miss it
01:25.29XelopherisStill need the mag ring
01:25.31Gnarfozah right Nandini
01:25.32Towbar31k for lvl 70
01:25.38Towbar90% sure on that
01:25.44Gnarfozmust be because of something like that
01:25.47Industrialravagernl: I dont know my hp!! but I dont die anyway *cough*
01:25.53Towbar:)
01:25.57Nandinii'm not sure reaching 75% is the best idea tho
01:26.07Nandinisometimes you get an armor buff from a heal, and that gets wasted
01:26.15Xelopherisnot really
01:26.16Towbarnot all teh time
01:26.19XelopherisI don't like relying on procs
01:26.25Towbarif you are sundered then inspiration is nice
01:26.25Nandinimany times i'd rather have dodge
01:26.25ravagernlindustrial: maybe its the ouf framework causing it?
01:26.48Xelopherisbut given the lack of options for druid gear, it's really hard to stack
01:26.57Nandinibut i wouldn't wear a low armor item vs. a high agi rogue-type item just for that
01:27.00Xelopherisbecause if you take an item that isn't high armor, you give up a LOT of armor
01:27.02Industrialravagernl: dont think so
01:27.18Gnarfozhm, I'm just trying to figure out, beforehand, if he'll be able to MT morogrim
01:27.20Industrialravagernl: but like I said, I actually prefer not to have it :P
01:27.29Nandiniyup, small changes in armor value end up being big changes once you are in bear form
01:27.31Towbarhow much buffed hp?
01:27.34Industrialravagernl: tho if you get it working smoehow ill gladly insert it - just only on mouseover.
01:27.48Stan3THE CHINESE BROKE ROCK AGAIN :(
01:27.51GnarfozTowbar: that one I don't know :)
01:27.55Towbarkk
01:28.01Xelopheris20k HP and 32k armor with about 40% dodge for a druid to reasonable do morogrim
01:28.09Tinyboomgief fix, i am in raid! :p
01:28.15Towbarmy fav tank on morrowgrim is a bear, and if you got a dps warrior in my grp thats even better
01:28.23AntiarcAs my rogue, I have 3579 AC, and I'm in 4/5 T5. :/
01:28.28XelopherisMy fav tank on morogrim is a prot paladin. Not for tanking morogrim though
01:28.36AntiarcWTB [Box of Tissue Paper] to improve my survivability
01:28.43XelopherisWTS Vanish
01:28.46Towbarxelopheris: thats a cert kill unless teh healers decide to take a piss when you pull
01:29.03AntiarcI'd be less irritated if my PVP gear had decent AC
01:29.14Nandinii often wonder if there were good cloth items with agi, if rogues would downgrade their armor class to wear them
01:29.15AntiarcBut warriors look at me and I just fall over :(
01:29.18Towbarpvp gear for rogues gimps dps so much
01:29.21Nandinimuch like moonkins often wear cloth
01:29.29AntiarcYeah, but you -have- to have the resilience.
01:29.29Towbarlook at warrior pvp gear, stuffed full of hit rating
01:29.34Towbaryea
01:29.38Xelopherisgood hunters wear rogue armor
01:29.42AntiarcWarriors can actually wear their arena gear in PVE and be competitive.
01:29.44AntiarcThat says something.
01:29.46Tinyboomckknight: ping
01:29.52AntiarcRogues that wear arena gear in PVE should probably be shot.
01:30.01Nandiniwhat's the error tinyboom? is it from Parser-4.0?
01:30.04XelopherisAntiarc: warriors that wear PVP gear for PVE are usually 2H Fury (33/28)
01:30.04AntiarcWeapons notwithstanding.
01:30.08Towbarantiarc: totally agree, we had a pvp specced MS warrior come instead of his usual fury spec and gear
01:30.10Paenewhat's it mean when something is listed under SVN in WAU?
01:30.11XelopherisAnd are not dependant on hit rating
01:30.20Towbarand he dps was almost double because he lacked the hit rating
01:30.26Towbarin fury gear
01:30.31ravagernlindustrial:see line 402 in ouf.lua
01:30.42Stan3Antiarc: could you fix librockcomm please? :(
01:30.49Stan3the chinese broke it :(
01:30.52AntiarcStan3: Not my project
01:30.53AntiarcOh, hm
01:30.54AntiarcWhat broke?
01:30.59Stan3.\AddOns\LibRockComm-1.0\LibRockComm-1.0.lua line 36:
01:30.59Stan3<PROTECTED>
01:31.00ravagernlindustrial: haste hasn't created any other functions to cover tags
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01:31.08AntiarcGood lord, they need to learn to test.
01:31.14hyperChipmunkwtf
01:31.21Industrialravagernl: tags?
01:31.22AntiarcGive me a sec, I'll fix it.
01:31.33Industrialravagernl: with ouf program the looks yourself.
01:31.37Xelopherisyou'd think syntax errors would never even make it off the person's computer ><
01:31.38TinyboomNandini: librockcomm, libdogtag
01:31.39Industrialyou program*
01:31.42hyperChipmunkthey need to learn how to pair open- and closed-brackets
01:31.45hyperChipmunkand end
01:31.51Industrialravagernl: so i just set a unitframe enter/leave script and hide/show the text :P
01:32.12Industrialravagernl: way easier then tags (Assuming you mean DogTag)
01:32.16AntiarcHrm
01:32.22ravagernlindustrial: yeah, but except for the part that there are no other fontstrings then name
01:32.23AntiarcI don't see a mismatched bracket
01:32.39AntiarcOh
01:32.40AntiarcI see
01:32.41Industrialravagernl: there are, but I can't get them to show somehow - haven't figured it our yet.
01:32.45AntiarcThey didn't remove the commas
01:32.54Industrialravagernl: this was the problem/bug
01:33.14ravagernlhmm, are we talking about the same revision then?
01:33.18Nandinithere seems to be a lot of sloppy errors by people performing localizations
01:33.30CIA-1203antiarc * r51100 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0: Fix a syntax error introduced by the Chinese localizer. Lern2test before you commit, please.
01:33.42ravagernlindustrial: rev 337
01:33.45XelopherisReason why I love university: free script editing software. I have IBM designed software that prevents me from saving anything that doesn't have closing brackets
01:33.52Industrialravagernl: the latest always
01:33.56Stan3thx Antiarc
01:34.00Ellipsisyes, because every translator will read that commit message and magically start testing and not failing at life
01:34.02Ellipsis:P
01:34.12AntiarcI am snarking, not hoping to improve anything.
01:34.15Industrialravagernl: /dump oUF_Player.Health.value
01:34.17EllipsisI know <3
01:34.18Industrialravagernl: it exists :P
01:34.25Nandinii use a really old version of LuaEdit and it still does fine at syntax checking
01:34.40ravagernlindustrial: so you have to create the fontstrings yourself?
01:34.50Ellipsiseven if your IDE doesn't warn you, the game will when you login
01:35.02Ellipsiswhat I don't understand is how these people commit these things and don't even notice
01:35.10Ellipsisdo they like, not use their version?
01:35.14Xelopherisbecause they failed thed retard test
01:35.20Ellipsisdo they quit WoW for a week after submitting a translation?
01:35.26Industrialravagernl: yes, oUF only handles updating of frames you feed it - and those frames have to be in the order oUF expects them in. But thats no prob for me :P
01:35.39Ellipsisor do they just not go back and fix their screwups on the svn?
01:35.53Nandiniperhaps they do not actually play wow, maybe they are being paid to add localization by the mafia
01:36.02Nandiniand making mistakes leads to more work and getting paid more
01:36.12Ellipsiso.O
01:36.14Ellipsisdiabolical
01:36.27Industrialbecause we all know LibRockComm makes a chinese farmer's life easier!
01:36.32Stan3Hellgate: Shanghai
01:36.35Stan3in stores soon
01:36.39Nandinii have been known to leave a cosmetic bug or two in apps i write, knowing it will give me work to do later :)
01:37.05IndustrialLibRockComm, helping chinese men feed their family since 2007
01:37.37XelopherisDire Maul North: helping chinese men feed their family since Molten Bore.
01:37.45Nandinithen of course when they are discovered, "Oh, that will take a while for me to fix."
01:37.51Industrialravagernl: in other words there is no config besides the actual lua.
01:38.04Nandiniand then i can leisurely spend a day or so fixing something that takes 5 minutes to do
01:38.21Nandinisometimes it's nice not having competent oversight
01:38.22Ellipsisbut you're being paid for that, right?
01:38.24ravagernlindustrial: I know that, i'm not stupid :P
01:38.29Nandiniyes
01:38.31XelopherisNandini: you sound a lot like the entire software design team at my summer job
01:38.50Nandinibugs give developers a reason to live :)
01:38.55XelopherisYou walk by their desks and they're browsing the WoW forums, and all they say is "I'm compiling"
01:39.02NandiniLOL
01:39.24EllipsisXelopheris, I love you
01:39.32XelopherisPS: Compiling on a dedicated cray server takes 3 seconds even for the most complicated apps we have
01:39.34Industrialravagernl: just making sure :P
01:39.44Nandinithey should make a polarizing filter for screens that shows a work desktop from any angle except 90%
01:39.52Ellipsisthey make 'em
01:39.55XelopherisWe have those
01:39.59Nandiniomg that is awesome, giev
01:40.06Antiarchttp://xkcd.com/303/
01:40.09Xelopheristhey're like, $50 for a government certified one
01:40.13PaeneAnyone know what the SVN category in WAU means?
01:40.49EllipsisPaene: it means there's a .svn folder inside the addon dir
01:41.00Ellipsiswhich (depending on settings) may prevent it from updating
01:41.06Paeneic
01:41.20Paenethat's because it's my project lol
01:41.28Ellipsisthen it's probably a good thing there is one
01:41.30Ellipsis:P
01:41.55Paeneproblem is
01:42.00PaeneWAU doesn't consider it installed
01:42.09Ellipsiswhy is that a problem?
01:42.15Paenegood point lol
01:42.18Paenenvm
01:42.21Ellipsiso.O
01:42.22PaeneI'm just being stupid
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01:42.30CIA-1203xionglingfeng * r51101 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - Fix Chs translation bugs.
01:42.34AntiarcIt's a good thing. You don't want WAU to overwrite your working SVN copies, which likely contain local modifications
01:42.47Ellipsiswhat he said^
01:43.10AntiarcWHAT THE HELLLLL.
01:43.11AntiarcDUDE.
01:43.13Industrialxionlingfeng? -_^
01:43.13AntiarcTEST.
01:43.15AntiarcEFFING.
01:43.17AntiarcTEST.
01:43.19AntiarcBLARGLE
01:43.21Ellipsisfail.
01:43.29Paenelol
01:43.32Nandinimaybe he was fixing and committed the same thing you just did
01:43.34AntiarcNo
01:43.36AntiarcHe did it wrong
01:43.40Paenefire him!
01:43.43Paenelol
01:43.45Nandinirevoke!
01:43.48AntiarcHe overwrote L with a local that will go out of scope as soon as he leaves the if block.
01:43.57Ellipsiswtf?
01:43.59Ellipsisfail
01:44.26Nandinii'm assuming this person is not here in irc
01:44.35NandiniAre you here xionglingfeng?
01:44.37ravagernlindustrial: ah i think I know the answer
01:44.39Ellipsisno, why would he want to do a silly thing like that
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01:44.54hypetechso
01:44.58NightHawkTheSanebuttons!
01:45.01ravagernlindustrial: haste calls hp.func = updateHealth in his example layout
01:45.05hypetechwhatever that last update to librock was, I think it broke pitbull and cartographer
01:45.09EllipsisI pres butan?
01:45.13Thorgardhypetech, yups
01:45.17Ellipsisyup, we know
01:45.20hypetechlol
01:45.21hypetechyay
01:45.24Ellipsistranslators suck
01:45.39Antiarcwhatever, I don't care
01:45.50AntiarcIt'll be broken for chinese users but nobody else
01:46.04hypetechI was trying to get note sharing on cartographer working, and I saw the cartographer_data package disappear, then logged back on and heard "fatality" lol
01:46.27Antiarc~botmail for ckknight: Check LibRockComm's chinese localization. They're doing it wrong.
01:47.08Nandinii have yet to see a good chinese addon that has been localized to english
01:47.37Towbargnite guys
01:47.40Nandiniit kind of makes me wish i could speak chinese, i use some good german addons
01:51.11CIA-1203ackis * r51102 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
01:51.11CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
01:51.12CIA-12- Started GUI status bar
01:53.33rubikughh.. why did i just update addons before raid
01:53.43RogueShadowwhy indeed
01:53.44Ellipsisbecause you, like most people, don't think :P
01:54.00rubikand whoever broke librockcomm and pitbull and everything else.. that wasn't nice
01:54.09Ellipsisit's those pesky chinese
01:54.11Ellipsisthey're always the ones doing it
01:54.13RogueShadowmust be.
01:54.27RogueShadowfirst gold spam. now this
01:55.37rubikdamn chinese
01:55.46rubik(i can say that cause my wife is chinese)
01:55.55XelopherisFuck the chinese.
01:56.00rubiki do
01:56.01XelopherisI can say that, 'cause I'm white and ignorant
01:56.01RogueShadoweasiest way to fix, without knowing more about your problems.  revert
01:56.02XelopherisI mean...
01:56.30RogueShadowXelopheris, you mean, do bad things to them?
01:56.39XelopherisPossibly
01:56.41hypetechwhat happened to the option in WAU to undo the last update? :(
01:56.55Tinyboomsomebody fucked up royally: http://ace.pastey.net/74926, the latest commit didn't work... :p
01:57.08RogueShadowGood question, I never was able to revert very well until I figured out it was an svn thing.
01:57.17RogueShadowI'm finding svn a lot easier to figure out now.
02:02.25CIA-1203eraslin * r51103 10DKPmon/ (5 files in 3 dirs): DKPmon: (Drycode) New feature to automatically turn on logging when entering a raid instance.
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02:14.26hypetechsigh
02:15.08kaidenyeah tell me about it :/
02:15.12kaideni just made the mistake of updating
02:15.35hypetechyep
02:15.42hypetechcartographer is working now however
02:16.29CIA-1203eraslin * r51104 10DKPmon_PercentDKP/example.lua: DKPmon_PercentDKP: Tweak to example.lua.
02:16.45RogueShadowhmm.
02:16.55RogueShadowafter hearing about all this, I should update and see what happens
02:17.39NightHawkTheSaneyes, that's a brilliant idea
02:17.52Xelopherisyou should backup then update and see what happens
02:18.16NightHawkTheSanenah
02:18.21NightHawkTheSanebackups are for losers!
02:18.23NightHawkTheSanejust update! do it!
02:18.24NightHawkTheSaneWOOOO!
02:18.29Xelopherisno, manually backing up is for losers.
02:18.32XelopherisBatch files are for winners
02:18.36Ellipsisbackups are for wimps
02:18.40Ellipsislive dangerously, I always say
02:19.01Xelopherismeh, I have a batch file to backup then run WAU
02:19.02Ellipsisthen again...I've also had to rewrite entire addons because I didn't do backups
02:19.03Ellipsis>_<
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02:21.25RogueShadowI have figured out how to check out the svn and go back to revisions
02:21.27RogueShadowI will be ok
02:21.59NightHawkTheSaneRogueShadow: you ARE aware that all previous revisions are available as zips, too?
02:22.09RogueShadowNightHawkTheSane, Yes.
02:22.15NightHawkTheSanek, just checking. :P
02:22.34Xelopherisgoing back to one specific version instead of just unzipping a locally made file... hard to choose
02:23.08NightHawkTheSanebandwidth is cheaper than hd space.. :P
02:23.09RogueShadowmaking a file.  pfft.  that's work.  svn does it for me.
02:24.05ThorgardWhich rev's the latest working one?
02:24.41Xelopheris^^ that's why I locally backup
02:25.10hyperChipmunksvn log|head
02:25.16hyperChipmunktake the second rev on the list
02:25.43NightHawkTheSanehm, bet you could write a script to incremently back up a working copy by one each time you run it.
02:25.52NightHawkTheSanes/back up/revert/
02:26.22CIA-1203antiarc * r51105 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0: Actually fix the chinese localization error.
02:27.01NightHawkTheSanecourse, in liu of actually checking out my addons, I just use zips
02:27.32NightHawkTheSanesvn's kinda a waste if you're not actively developing the addon, or have local modifications
02:27.48RogueShadowdid that guy just reintroduce the error?
02:29.51AntiarcNo, he just fixed it wrong.
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02:33.13EllipsisAntiarc, have we told you lately how much we love you?
02:33.23NightHawkTheSaneO
02:33.29AntiarcWell
02:33.32NightHawkTheSaneI'd tell him, but that would give away my position outside his window
02:33.33NimbleRabitDoes anyone maintain antagonist?
02:33.34AntiarcI have received no singing telegrams lately
02:33.38NightHawkTheSane... crap
02:33.39AntiarcSo you all obviously don't love me enough
02:33.49EllipsisAntiarc: address and it's so happening
02:34.09AntiarcSee, I'm afraid that someone actually may
02:34.14NimbleRabitIf not could somebody perhaps look at it and see if they can fix the positioning problems
02:34.23CIA-1203speeddymon * r51106 10Postman/Postman.lua:
02:34.23CIA-12Postman:
02:34.23CIA-12- 2nd commit to fix reporting for sending to same-account characters
02:34.23CIA-12- Added detection for sending money
02:34.23CIA-12- todo: Write guts of formatmoney function to convert number from raw copper format to g s c
02:34.28RogueShadowwell, I knew it would happen I guess.  pitbull is broke with latest update
02:34.28NightHawkTheSanei'd personally go with a singing stripper-gram
02:34.37Ellipsiswell how else can we show our appreciation for your making it safe to update again every time some chinese guy breaks the internet?
02:34.40AntiarcMy wife would likely not appreciate that.
02:34.49NightHawkTheSanewell, we can send two, one for her.
02:35.40CIA-1203whitetooth * r51107 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
02:35.40CIA-12StatLogicLib:
02:35.40CIA-12- Fixed Hunter Survival Instincts Tab ID
02:35.40CIA-12- Counts Armor enchants as ARMOR_BONUS instead of ARMOR
02:35.47AntiarcSo, the brewfest pony kegs are dangerous
02:35.54AntiarcWe have the entire raid loaded before we start SSC
02:36.00NightHawkTheSanehehe, isn't it great!
02:36.05AntiarcAnd it just occurred to me that the SSC passageways aren't entirely too wide
02:36.11AntiarcAnd being drunk tends to make you run funny.
02:36.15AntiarcAnd there are bitey fish below.
02:36.19NightHawkTheSanehehe
02:36.28NightHawkTheSanetwo words: hilarity ensues.
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02:36.59TinyboomI am being asked to post my ui on wowinterface or curse; and since it's being 99% ace addons I am wondering if anyone has anything against it:) rather not ask every author personally as it would take me forever:p
02:36.59Ellipsishah, I got stuck in the tunnel to get into Coilfang without even being drunk
02:37.01Ellipsis=[
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02:38.03AntiarcTinyboom: There's generally no problem posting compiliations with Ace mods.
02:38.08CIA-1203whitetooth * r51108 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt RatingBuster.lua RatingBuster.toc): (log message trimmed)
02:38.08CIA-12RatingBuster: 1.2.5
02:38.08CIA-12- Updated: toc to 20200
02:38.08CIA-12- Fixed: Haste rating change in 2.2.0
02:38.08CIA-12- Fixed: Hunter Survival Instincts talant support
02:38.09CIA-12- Fixed: Armor multiplier no longer applys to Armor from enchants
02:38.11CIA-12- NEW: Added China localization by iceburn(candykiss)
02:39.18TinyboomAntiarc: was just making sure:)
02:39.33CIA-1203whitetooth * r51109 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster.lua:
02:39.33CIA-12RatingBuster:
02:39.33CIA-12- Forgot to update version
02:41.06Ellipsisjust don't claim to have written all the addons and I don't think anyone's gonna complain :P
02:42.20Killmorehmm, since the last update all my fubar, carto, pitbull is broken
02:43.26nymbiaEllipsis: just claim to have written all the addons, it'll work out fine
02:44.11RogueShadowwhen I updated just my pitbull was broken
02:44.23Ellipsisok, I wrote every addon on the WowAce svn!
02:44.25RogueShadowreverting dogtag seemed to fix that
02:44.33Killmore[2007/10/05 22:44:00-23-x1]: LibDogTag-2.0\LibDogTag-2.0.lua:716: unexpected symbol near '['
02:44.33KillmoreLibRock-1.0--48920 (LibRock-1.0):1428: in function <Interface\AddOns\LibRock-1.0\LibRock-1.0.lua:1403>
02:44.33KillmoreLibRock-1.0--48920 (LibRock-1.0):1686: in function `Rock'
02:44.33KillmoreCowTip-r50887\Text\Text.lua:61: in main chunk
02:44.34RogueShadowLibDogTag-2.0
02:44.43NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: complaints inc?
02:44.53nymbiaEllipsis: fix that bug!
02:44.55Ellipsis=[
02:45.13Ellipsisthey took away my svn access because I was making them look bad by putting out so much code
02:45.40RogueShadowhttp://files.wowace.com/LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0-r50910.zip
02:47.40AntiarcI'll fix it in a sec
02:48.00NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: about as easily as i'd fall for a gelatinous cube pit trap?
02:48.05CIA-1203recluse * r51110 10NiHao/NiHao.lua:
02:48.05CIA-12NiHao:
02:48.05CIA-12- Slash command help text updated.
02:48.05CIA-12- Added FuBar menu options for a few display settings.
02:48.07nymbiayou better, Antiarc !
02:49.18EllipsisNightHawkTheSane: well...do you like jello?
02:49.30nymbiahawt
02:49.32NightHawkTheSanenot that flavor...
02:49.36Ellipsisoh =[
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02:49.56nymbiaO.o
02:50.00nymbiahi ;p
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02:51.29Funkeh`hey
02:51.42dogberryhowdy
02:51.48Ellipsisno, see, *that's* hawt
02:52.02NightHawkTheSaneI am forced to agree
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02:52.18CIA-1203ackis * r51111 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua):
02:52.18CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
02:52.18CIA-12- Possible tailoring fix
02:52.18CIA-12- Added RWD - Rare World Drop to localization
02:52.26NightHawkTheSanehmm, less hot. it's  the Funkeh`-on-gnome action that really makes it hawt.
02:52.39Ellipsis=[
02:52.41nymbiaand how.
02:52.45EllipsisI'd reroll gnome for Funkeh` <3
02:53.36CIA-1203speeddymon * r51112 10Postman/Postman.lua:
02:53.36CIA-12Postman:
02:53.36CIA-12- Committed formatmoney function (drycoded)
02:53.36CIA-12- Don't have time to test right now
02:53.36CIA-12- If someone wants to, and something breaks, feel free to fix it, and commit the changes, or attach the changed file in a private message to me on the forums
02:53.58nymbiathat's pretty demanding
02:54.12bresernymbia: You see my email to you?
02:54.38nymbiabreser: yeah, got an svn account to commit that or should i?
02:54.56breserI don't.
02:55.05CIA-1203antiarc * r51113 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0: Fixed problems with Chinese localization. Please test before committing in the future.
02:55.20breserPatch will apply cleanly to the current rev though.
02:55.28CIA-1203chuanhsing * r51114 10BigWigs/ (19 files in 7 dirs): BigWigs: update zhTW
02:55.29nymbiaok, i've got an svn update running, but i'll commit it once that finishes.  or if i forget, smack me around a bit.
02:55.40AntiarcBets that one is broken too?
02:55.57nymbiakeeping encoding the same is for suckers
02:55.59NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: well, thats taiwanese, not chinese, so.. i'm going to say no.
02:56.02breserI posted something on the forums and got tired of applying my local patch today.
02:56.07AntiarcOh. Yay.
02:56.12kadrahil~wau2
02:56.13purlmethinks wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2
02:56.22kadrahilis there a wau2 channel?
02:56.26NightHawkTheSane#wau
02:56.35breserManaged to hopefully get rid of 2 local patches to addons today.
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02:56.47Xelopheriseww, java based
02:56.48nymbiawell if that's the case i better not apply this
02:56.57nymbiacan't make things easier for people!
02:56.57bresernymbia: lol
02:57.03Ellipsispfft
02:57.05Ellipsiseasy is overrated
02:57.24kadrahilwtb wau2 working on osx
02:57.37kadrahilyes, it is java, but it doesn't work :(
02:57.45NightHawkTheSanejava blows anyway
02:57.45breserI'm just happy I only have to maintain one addon.
02:57.56nymbiaso, one of my hermit crabs just switched shells to one that's way too big for him.  and it's amazing.
02:58.01kadrahilyeah, guess i'll just stick with mau. it just lacks some features i've been looking for.
02:58.09kadrahil|Kev|: poke :)
02:58.20NightHawkTheSanekadrahil: i just wrote my own script. ;)
02:58.28nymbiain other news, breser, does the swing timer work ok in cat form?
02:58.36kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: i'm thinking about it!
02:58.37Xelopheriswhat I don't get is why the WAU doesn't have an automatic backup in it?
02:58.38bresernymbia: Works fine.
02:58.41nymbianeat
02:58.46NightHawkTheSanekadrahil: its always a good time to learn. :)
02:58.47Xelopherisso easy to create a zip via command line
02:59.01kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: heh i've been coding and scripting in unix since '99 ;)
02:59.08NightHawkTheSanekadrahil: so it should be easy for you!
02:59.14bresernymbia: The only issue was the retarded UnitDamage returning my actual weapon in the offhand slot.
02:59.15kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: yeah, i'm just lazy :o
02:59.20nymbiahaha yeah
02:59.27NightHawkTheSanekadrahil: hah, indeed. :)_
02:59.29breserSeriously WTF is the point of that?
02:59.38nymbialazy API!
02:59.56breserI guess someone at Blizzard needed the weapon info and shoved it in there so yeah.
03:00.08RogueShadowI figured it out!
03:00.14RogueShadow... n/m fixed already
03:00.21RogueShadowso much for being helpful
03:00.33kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: i wish i could just check out the 20 or so addons i use from svn and run svn up on occasion
03:00.46breserkadrahil: I so wish the same.
03:00.48NightHawkTheSanekadrahil: .. you can..
03:00.51CIA-1203eraslin * r51115 10DKPmon/main.lua: DKPmon: Fixes to drycoded automatic logging. It should now work.
03:00.58NightHawkTheSanebut its kinda bad form
03:01.08breserNightHawkTheSane: Don't think you can without a svn account.
03:01.13kadrahilbreser: you can read
03:01.18kadrahilbut not write
03:01.19NightHawkTheSanenah, svn.wowace.com is public read access
03:01.37breserHmm, I've tried checking stuff out in the past but it didn't work.
03:01.40kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: yeah i figured there would be a general objection to that
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03:02.00nymbiait works fine just don't like.. check out the whole repo with externals
03:02.01breserI've always been tempted to mount a local svn repo with webdav for my WTF files.
03:02.07NightHawkTheSanekadrahil: practically, only 20ish addons isn't a huge deal, but It's much easier on the server and bandwidth to just use zips when you can
03:02.15kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: yup
03:02.23VanishIn case no one hsa mentioned it, ibDogTag-2.0 has an error preventing it from loading
03:02.25breserMaybe it was just broken at that point.
03:02.43breser<-- SVN developer incidentally.
03:02.46RogueShadowVanish, fixed.
03:03.01VanishHmm. my updater isn't seeing it.
03:03.06kadrahilRogueShadow: hunter, rerolling
03:03.14RogueShadowgive it a few  10 minutes more or so
03:03.31kadrahilRogueShadow: haha i thought you actually meant vanish was fixed
03:03.37RogueShadowlol
03:03.40breserSince you guys are so chatty, is there a better updater forr OS X than MacAceUpdater?
03:03.46VanishHehe
03:03.51NightHawkTheSanebreser: not really.
03:04.00XelopherisGrrr, Bornakk is giving druids the slack again ><
03:04.03VanishI am fixed... at least as far a the wife knows... sssshhh
03:04.04NightHawkTheSanebreser: well, no.. there's a python script Kemayo wrote, that i guess works fairly well
03:04.13NightHawkTheSanethere might be a link on the forums somewhere to his google code site
03:04.31NightHawkTheSanePersonally, If you have any scripting knowledge at all, its fairly simple to just roll your own
03:04.31Vanishbreser, I've resorted to jwow
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03:04.45Vanishjwow works remarkably well
03:04.48kadrahiljwow?
03:04.49breserMacAceUpdater functionally works but it's just annoying to use.
03:04.57kadrahilbreser: agreed
03:05.03VanishYeah, Steve hasn't really had time to work on t
03:05.05kadrahilbreser: it lacks a lot of features i find useful
03:05.22bresera) It fails to always select everything that's new.  b) It can't sort the listing
03:05.25Vanishjwowupdater. Lemme see if I can grab a link for you
03:05.31kadrahilbreser: exactly
03:05.52breserc) There's no way to tell it "ignore x addon because the author has broken it and is too stupid to fix it."
03:06.06kadrahilugh reinstalling wow sucks
03:06.16kadrahilit takes an hour :X
03:06.24Vanishhttp://code.google.com/p/jwowupdater
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03:06.50breserI have this complete and utter distaste for Java.
03:06.51VanishWoWAce forum thread: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917
03:06.57RogueShadowI feel... so open.
03:06.58nymbiabreser: it doesn't ignore svn working copies?
03:07.06RogueShadowI hid all my action bars. and downsized to 3 of them.
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03:07.11CIA-12- Added Steamtonk controller explanation to engineering
03:07.12XelopherisJava is nice as an applet. As a standalone app it fails bigtime
03:07.14kadrahilRogueShadow: using spellbinder?
03:07.17RogueShadowyeah
03:07.18VanishYou shouldn't. Java on the Mac wrks quite well. Give jwow a shot, I think you'll stick with it
03:07.26kadrahilRogueShadow: that mod is awesome :D
03:07.29NightHawkTheSaneno, java on the mac is crap. :P
03:07.32NightHawkTheSanejava is crap in general.
03:07.34kadrahilRogueShadow: i keep a few bars up just so i know what my cooldowns are
03:07.42bresernymbia: Not an issue for me since I don't have committ access to Ace...
03:07.54RogueShadowkadrahil, i'm gonna start using a cooldown timer or something for that, if I have a problem with it.
03:07.57VanishSpoken like someone who doesn't use Java because they read that 1.2 was crap... 5 years ago
03:08.05RogueShadowI'll put it in the empty space it'll take less room anyway
03:08.12kadrahilRogueShadow: yeah, Parrot actually spams when a cooldown is up
03:08.19RogueShadowmhmm
03:08.20nymbiabreser: can probably trick it into ignoring an addon by just sticking a .svn directory in there
03:08.34breserI just don't like Java because the idea was so wonderful and the implementation was crappy and then the standard got destroyed for all practical purposes.
03:08.47bresernymbia: Ohh I see what you mean.
03:08.51bresernymbia: I have no idea.
03:09.02bresernymbia: What I really ought to do is figure out what's wrong with simpleminimap and fix it.
03:09.03VanishHuh? Microshaft buggered the standard, yes. It works fine everywhere else.
03:09.18VanishJWowUpdater runs faster than MAU does, and has more features
03:09.24nymbiabreser: no idea if it works with MAU, but i know that's how it tends to work with the other updaters
03:09.50breserVanish: Yes but buggering the standard for all practical purposes destroyed the entire point of Java.
03:10.05Vanishbreser: Yes, but only on Windows. You're on a Mac, yes?
03:10.14breserNowadays yes.
03:10.40breserGot tired of hassling with Linux.
03:10.46VanishIt's a different experience on Mac and Linux and AIX and every other version of Unix. Windows is the only platform that fscked it up
03:11.06VanishSince 1.5 anyway
03:11.34nymbiaproblem there is that to really accomplish what a java app's meant to do, you need the whole 'working on windows' thing going
03:12.34Vanishnymbia: Well, to live up to the full measuer of it's intent, yes. Everyone but Windows users are just fine though. M$ needs to fix what they fscked
03:13.07VanishYay! I have my Pitbull frames back
03:13.10breserThe issue is they did it on purpose so they don't see anythign to fix.
03:13.32Ellipsiswelcome to MS
03:13.37dogberry.NET is what they care about, not Java
03:13.50nymbiamicrosoft, do something wrong??!?!  you, sir, are mistaken..  clearly everyone ELSE needs to change.
03:13.57VanishYup. That's also why .Net will never be able t accomplish it's cross-platform goals either. It doesn't work with piss outside of Windows.
03:13.58breserI have to give them some credit on C# it's not too terribly bad.
03:14.04Vanishnymbia: LOL!
03:14.10XelopherisThey still maek a half-ass bug filled java to try and corner the market
03:14.14dogberryit's not too terribly bad because it's a blatant copy of Java
03:14.31Ellipsishow does that make it good?
03:14.44dogberrydidn't say that made it good
03:14.52Ellipsisyou said that made it not terribly bad
03:15.11dogberrywhich isn't the converse of good, necessarily
03:15.12VanishJava is a good language and technology. You just have to work with it outside of the hegemony
03:16.20rob`Sun really likes to impose Their Way Of Doing Stuff as much as possible, it's irritating.
03:16.32dogberryI like Ruby, myself
03:16.54VanishRuby isnt in the same league...
03:17.14dogberrytoday...
03:17.19breserHmm I don't see a way to make JWow ignore an addon at all.  Maybe the .svn trick will work.
03:17.26VanishEver... it's a scripting language
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03:18.18breserLooks like that did the trick.
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03:18.54Funkeh`oh fuck off
03:19.03Funkeh`@ the ending of PB ep3
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03:22.56breserOkay you win JWoW is nice.
03:23.02Vanish;)
03:23.03XelopherisO_o I don't know how, but I just scored a date with a frag doll!
03:23.16VanishDare I ask wtf that is?
03:23.17Ellipsishax
03:23.30Ellipsisif you don't know, then you'd better not be a geek, or you're in trouble :P
03:23.32Xelopherishttp://www.fragdolls.com/
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03:23.33CIA-12- Apply Druid forms fix by breser. Thanks!
03:23.33CIA-12- (Drycoded, one of these days my wow'ing box will work again)
03:23.51VanishI'm a geek, but I'm an old school geek
03:24.26Xelopherisdefinitely not a 'formal' date though. All of them are coming to my town for a dell sponsored lan
03:24.36VanishOhhhhh. Ok, yeah I remember now. Geek is irrelevant. Gamer is more important
03:24.41Xelopherisone of my friends is helping organize it, and is setting all of us up :)
03:25.56Ellipsisany geek would be lucky to date one of them :P
03:26.17VanishI've never been impressed by them, sorry. We have a local chick clan with hotter membership
03:26.38XelopherisI have an even hotter girlfriend, but she can't touch a computer without breaking it
03:26.45VanishLOL
03:26.45Seerahlol
03:26.50Funkeh`so true
03:26.59AntiarcMy wife built her own computer
03:27.02AntiarcSo fweh.
03:27.19Xelopherismy girlfriend bought a dell :(
03:27.34VanishDude, you gotta get a new girl
03:27.45Xelopherisbed > desk
03:27.48Seerahmy husband bought me a Dell because he was too lazy to build me a computer (though he'll build his own)
03:27.56Funkeh`Xelopheris: also true
03:28.00nymbiathat's terrible
03:28.06VanishOh! We should beat on him for ya, Seerah
03:28.24Seerahstupid Dell had 4 250MB sticks in there for my gig of ram
03:28.25XelopherisSeerah: if you really want to nag him out, you can just do the whole price thing
03:28.29XelopherisEwww
03:28.37bresernymbia: Maybe I was wrong, swing timer might be off for cat.
03:28.44XelopherisI have 4 2 gig sticks, works a lto better than 4 250mb sticks
03:28.46Seerahwe found that out when we got me more RAM a couple months ago
03:28.51bresernymbia: I only really care about it in bear form.
03:29.01XelopherisBreser: Are you idol swapping at all?
03:29.02Funkeh`wtb 2.3 so we don't need a quartz latency module!
03:29.05Seerahso now I have 2.5 GB
03:29.12Vanishseerah: No self-respecting technophile that can build his own boxen would EVER buy a Dell, for himself or anyone they care about
03:29.24breserNegative, I was just autoattacking to see if it was accurate since nymbia asked.
03:29.27WobinI let my family buy dell
03:29.30buuI BOUGHT A DELL.
03:29.34nymbiabreser: that was my suspicion, but only scrubs use cat form anyway ;)
03:29.35buuBahahahaha.
03:29.37SeerahI would call him a *real* technofile....
03:29.38Funkeh`Omg dell ftw
03:29.38WobinSo I can say "Go ask Dell to fix it"
03:29.43buuYeah. That too.
03:29.47Funkeh`sorry got caught up there
03:29.48nymbiaFunkeh`: that's harsh, yo.
03:29.50buuBut mostly because it was a laptop.
03:29.51NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: wait, why will we not need a latency module in 2.3?
03:29.53WobinCause family tech support is the worst support EVER
03:30.05Funkeh`NightHawkTheSane: nymbia coded is like suck!
03:30.07nymbiaFunkeh`: what're they doing in 2.3 anyway? i heard they were gonna do something, just havent heard what
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03:30.14nymbiaFunkeh`: tru dat.
03:30.15Xelopherisa guy in my class works dell tech support. He gets excited when people break the XPS laptops
03:30.21Xelopherisbecause he gets to go take one and play on it for a bit
03:30.23NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: well, obviously
03:30.27Funkeh`'something' being a correct definition my furry friend
03:30.46Funkeh`But basically you won't need it anymore
03:30.56nymbiahuh
03:30.58Funkeh`No need for stopcasting etc
03:30.58bresernymbia: lol, I just like it becuase then I've got something in front of me to give me an idea of when maul is gonna go off.
03:30.58nymbiawha
03:31.08nymbiabreser: yeah, sounds good to me ;)
03:31.13Funkeh`My guess is some kind of dynamic change in casting times
03:31.18nymbiaFunkeh`: I WANT ANSWERS DAMMIT
03:31.29Funkeh`nymbia: givf ptr :(
03:31.37Funkeh`was supposed to be this week
03:31.39Seerahgivf?
03:31.41nymbiaorly
03:31.47Funkeh`then suddenly, 'oops we decided to go 2.2.3'
03:32.01SeerahI like my jackalope :D
03:32.09Funkeh`so hopefully next week
03:32.12Seerahand I won't give him back so you can have 2.3!!!
03:32.12Xelopheris2.2.3 - the "fix the broken sound" patch
03:32.25VanishI like your jackalope too.
03:32.36Funkeh`givf 2.4 combatlog changes tbh ;p
03:33.28nymbiai'd settle for getting my processor back from the land of broken processors so i can actually play ;p
03:33.59Vanish*Gasp* nymbia is processorless?
03:34.06nymbiaindeed
03:34.14VanishWha' happen?
03:34.39Funkeh`nymbia has been innactive for over a month now
03:34.45Funkeh`popping in on average once a week
03:34.50Funkeh`used to always be here
03:34.51XelopherisI'll settle for my video card unbreaking so it doesn't randomly freeze directx every 4 or 5 hours
03:34.53Funkeh`slack imo
03:35.10nymbiaold power supply went, decided it was time for a new computer, doa processor
03:35.19VanishHeh. I've been inactive for over 6 months... so I didn't notice. :shrug:
03:35.20nymbiaFunkeh`: harsh
03:35.38Funkeh`nymbia: You know I lvoe you!
03:35.42nymbia<3
03:35.47Seerahaww, you know he just misses you - poor widdle guy
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03:36.42nymbiabut anyway yeah.. stole a processor from one of the dells at work to make sure that the mobo worked... but decided not to use it til the new one got here, since the heat sink mount's all dumb like a dell would be
03:36.43Funkeh`Does anyone know when atlantis episode 2 airs in da US?
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03:37.21NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: oct 7
03:37.26JackHoundHey, where can I nab some eePanels2 textures?
03:37.38Funkeh`NightHawkTheSane: ty
03:37.40NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: http://epguides.com/
03:37.47Funkeh`oo
03:37.54nymbiaNightHawkTheSane: now you've done it
03:37.58NightHawkTheSanelol
03:38.05AdiaraHey, is there a way with PitBull2.0 to alter range checking for individual frames? That is, let's say, having my Focus frame fade if the target is out of 25 yards while my party/target remain at 41 yards.
03:38.10NightHawkTheSane"... and we never saw Funkeh` again."
03:38.33SeerahJackHound: pretty much anywhere, as long as they're formatted correctly for WoW :)   other UIs, wowtextures.com, make them yourself, etc
03:38.41ZealotOnAStickFunkeh`: it aired tonight.
03:38.55NightHawkTheSanetonight, you say?
03:38.58NightHawkTheSaneman, fuck epguides.
03:39.05Funkeh`wtf?
03:39.05ZealotOnAStickSci-fi Fridays.
03:39.12Funkeh`I've been refreshing the torrent site all night
03:39.16ZealotOnAStickI got done watching it about 20 minutes ago.
03:39.19Funkeh`fuck you eztv slow ass
03:39.31ZealotOnAStickstill on the DVR downstairs.
03:40.17Funkeh`omg theres an ep2 torrent up
03:40.27Funkeh`but not by eztv, its got 1 seeder -_-
03:40.30ZealotOnAStickI want to see the large poisonous reptiles.
03:40.59JackHoundThanks Seerah
03:41.17Xelopherisdid youtube just change their player graphics at 9:40 at night?
03:41.25SeerahJackHound: you're welcome.  See the wiki for guides for eePanels
03:41.49NightHawkTheSaneXelopheris: it's only 9:40 for your time zone
03:41.56Xelopheris9:40 their time
03:41.57XelopherisPST
03:42.02Xelopheriserm, 8:40 I guess
03:42.04XelopherisI'm retarded
03:42.05Xelopheriseither way
03:42.14NightHawkTheSaneyes, either way you ARE retarded.;)
03:42.21Funkeh`lol
03:42.22Funkeh`<3
03:42.28Xelopheris:(
03:42.34XelopherisBut paste tastes so good
03:43.25Xelopherisnevermind, was only a few specific videos that had a different look O_o
03:43.51Funkeh`hai2u
03:44.31Seerahas soon as I decide I'll play, Silvermoon goes down :(
03:44.50Funkeh`Don't worry, you can play with me on the real silvermoon
03:44.57Seerah??
03:45.01Funkeh`eu
03:45.05nymbia~slap Funkeh`
03:45.06purlACTION slaps Funkeh`, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
03:45.06Seerahthat's not real
03:45.19Funkeh`eu is the only real
03:45.25Seerahpsh
03:46.46Seerahback up!  haha- guild is stuck in SSC
03:46.50Funkeh`I thinks I go brewfest some more.
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03:49.48Coreyi wish they would let us play on eu servers
03:50.17Nandinii had a friend that played on EU servers, i'm not sure how he managed it
03:50.34Xelopherisbuy an EU account, and edit one file
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03:50.35Nandinido you just make an account there?
03:50.42Nandinichange the login server to eu?
03:50.51nymbiajust steal Funkeh`s account info
03:50.53CoreyI'm canadian i gotta stick with my metric system homies
03:51.02XelopherisI hear ya corey
03:51.16Xelopherisexcept we still use feet and pounds in common measurements of people (not on paper)
03:51.21Xelopherisso it goes either way
03:51.22Nandinihow tall are you Corey? :P
03:51.29Corey6"
03:51.34Xelopherispsh, shorty
03:51.59sedatedChipmunkdon't you mean 1.8m?
03:52.06Coreylol
03:52.13NightHawkTheSane6 inches?
03:52.13Nandinimy point exactly
03:52.20NightHawkTheSaneo_0
03:52.21sedatedChipmunklol
03:52.38smallbrainimperial system = fail
03:52.43AntiarcI'm 5' something
03:52.44smallbrainand wtf
03:52.45Antiarc5'22"
03:52.54NightHawkTheSaneCorey: do you stand on a few phonebooks or something? :P
03:53.08sedatedChipmunkO->-<        <---corey
03:53.10sedatedChipmunkactual size
03:53.20NightHawkTheSanelol
03:53.21Nandinithat would take a lot of canadian phonebooks
03:53.35Xelopherispsh, ever seen the ottawa yellow pages?
03:53.40Xelopheriseffing huge
03:53.48NightHawkTheSanelike your mom?
03:53.53Funkeh`ITS UP!
03:53.56Xelopheris(every other page is either half covered in ads, or a full page ad)
03:54.00NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: linkerate!
03:54.05Funkeh`http://www.mininova.org/tor/925373
03:54.24Coreylol huh
03:54.36Nandinihow the hell did they recompress it that fast?
03:54.53NightHawkTheSaneelves.
03:54.56NightHawkTheSanefaeries.
03:54.58Nandiniit would take my computer at least 4 hours and i have a dual core 3.6GHz processor
03:54.59NightHawkTheSanemagic.
03:55.08Funkeh`2k downloads already
03:55.11Funkeh`been up 1 minute
03:55.18Nandinioh it's only 350 megs
03:55.19Xelopherisrogers PVR box ftw
03:55.41Xelopherisit totally encodes in xvid :)
03:56.02Nandinioh so you just have to grab it off the HD
03:56.34Xelopherisyeah
03:56.41RogueShadowI have experienced dell.  I'll never do it again...
03:56.43Xelopherisand there's a USB port conveniantly on the device for doing so
03:57.07ZealotOnAStickThere's all sorts of ports on the box I have from Comcast, but they're all disabled.
03:57.23ZealotOnAStickVery annoying.  I mean, it's got an ESATA FFS.
03:57.25Xelopheriswell that's why you bios flash your box
03:57.30Nandinii can't capture off the firewire port from my digital cable box unfortunately
03:57.51ZealotOnAStickComcast's boxes are problematic enough as it is.
03:58.01ZealotOnAStickNot going to start tinkering with it.
03:58.05Nandiniotherwise that would be a nice SD source
03:58.59RogueShadowyou know, I totally forgot about atlantis
03:59.04Nandinii am very much looking forward to new seasons of shows coming out on HD-DVD and BluRay tho
03:59.12Funkeh`man I'm still uploading the 2.2.2 patch, 216.316 ratio
03:59.13RogueShadow...
03:59.16RogueShadow:(
03:59.17Nandiniatlantis was a bit unsatisfying
03:59.20Funkeh`such an easy way to get your ratio up
03:59.29ZealotOnAStickRogueShadow: next airing of it should be like . . . starting now.
03:59.43RogueShadowgot a dvr, so unless some idiot stopped it.. I should be good.
03:59.45ZealotOnAStickheh, where at funkeh?
03:59.47RogueShadow.... better go now.
03:59.57Funkeh`where what?
04:00.50Funkeh`Need more seeds for sga :(
04:01.03Xelopherisjust hit up supertorrents.org
04:01.06Xelopherisshould be up there
04:01.13Funkeh`I already have it
04:01.28NightHawkTheSanei'm only pulling it down at 50k/s :(
04:01.31Nandinifor those who use full-fledged raid frames (not just grid), have you ever put your frames along the top?
04:01.36Funkeh`NightHawkTheSane: same
04:01.42Nandinii have always had them on the side shaped like a C
04:01.47Funkeh`but seeds and peers are booming up by the second
04:01.53ZealotOnAStickwhere are you getting your ratio up?
04:01.53Coreyi got mine from eztv and its goin at 100kb/s
04:02.13Funkeh`Corey: thats where I'm getting mine
04:02.16ulicI put my raid frames across the top, but only do 10-mans
04:02.18Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick: My client
04:02.35Coreyeztv = <3
04:02.45RogueShadowok, there's a 90% chance i'm going to miss it.
04:02.57XelopherisI just stick my raidframes from TL going downwards
04:03.04RogueShadowlittle brother + friend + zero respect for recordings on the dvr = not likely
04:03.10Xelopherisbut as a non-healer, I don't need constant informatino from them
04:03.17JackHoundScrew eePanels2 -_- Holy hell...
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04:03.29CIA-12AtlasLoot_OldInstances:
04:03.29CIA-12- Fixed a typo
04:03.32NightHawkTheSaneRogueShadow: duct tape them to the ceilng
04:03.32ZealotOnAStickdaunting?
04:03.38Nandinii usually grouped mine
04:03.42Nandini1 4 7
04:03.45Nandini2 6
04:03.48Nandini3 5 8
04:03.54RogueShadowNightHawkTheSane, don't have any onhand, too far from an open store out here.
04:04.07NightHawkTheSaneRogueShadow: then you FAIL. you should ALWAYS have duct tape
04:04.14ZealotOnAStickwhy 4 6 5 rather than 4 5 6?
04:04.16RogueShadow~FAIL RogueShadow
04:04.17purlRogueShadow: Fail.
04:04.22NightHawkTheSanenever know when you need to go all macguyver on someone
04:04.29ZealotOnAStickoh, never mind.
04:04.29JackHoundZealot: All I want is a white line to border my stuff. eePanels2 wants my first born to make it happen./
04:04.30ZealotOnAStickI see.
04:04.31Nandinithat way groups 4 and 5 are on the top and bottom, leaving the middle open in a 25-man raid
04:04.44Nandinisince i'm more interested in seeing that area
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04:05.11Funkeh`http://is.funkydude.co.uk/images/raid-04-10-07.jpg thats my raid frames, a corner of the screen :)
04:05.20Ellipsis~fail Starinnia
04:05.21purlStarinnia: Fail.
04:05.33RogueShadowI have isopropyl alcohol onhand and arctic silver.. does that count for anything?
04:05.37Starinniabah... bad day gone worse
04:06.19NightHawkTheSaneRogueShadow: well you can light things on fire.
04:06.43Nandinisince i'm sometimes healing and sometimes tanking and sometimes dpsing, i just always leave it all on screen
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04:07.34Nandiniif i'm dpsing, it can be a pain to pop out and battle-rez someone if i can't see their corpse and i don't have a UF up for them
04:07.43Nandinior innervate, etc.
04:07.49XelopherisThat's why I have 5x10 grid frames most of the time
04:08.01Nandinii liked grid for healing
04:08.16Xelopheris5x10 grid frames, only indicators are dead and OOM
04:08.23Xelopheris(and of course, health)
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04:08.47CIA-12- Beast training skills added and localization added (need to expand localization for how to obtain the skill)
04:08.49RogueShadowI was going to get some sleep, but now i'm gonna download the latest episode of Bleach.  .. ya crazy
04:08.54Coreyi use sraidframes
04:08.59Nandinibut since i'm a druid and really only have to press 3 buttons to tank, it's fun watching what everyone else is doing
04:09.24XelopherisI prefer just hiding my UI and Frapsing :)
04:09.52XelopherisI have an entire 250g hard drive of failed magtheridon attempts
04:09.53Nandinii would do that except i have to disable the targeting circle because of a nasty video driver bug in vista x64
04:10.16Nandiniso if i accidentally untargeted, i'd have no idea of knowing what i have targeted
04:10.26Nandinii NEED that target frame. lol
04:10.34Coreyget rid of vista
04:10.35Coreyeww
04:11.19Nandinii like vista, i've been running wow on it since beta 1 (i was on the technical beta)
04:11.38XelopherisSP1 will help it (I run vista SP1 on a beta machine at work)
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04:12.01Nandiniyup my computer has about 200megs more free ram with the same services running under SP1 beta
04:12.03Coreyi got 2 free copies of vista and both ended up in my garbage can
04:12.05Xelopherisbut SP1 has a nasty habit of creating memory leaks everytime you alt-tab a full screen app
04:12.38Coreyit was so bad next computer i get will be a mac :P
04:12.39Xelopherissmall leaks, mind you
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04:13.05Nandinihave you filed a bug report xelo?
04:13.23Nandinii haven't noticed any changes in memory usage and i have an uptime of 6 days now
04:13.52Nandiniand i've probably alt-tabbed out of wow a few hundred times with it in full-screen mode
04:13.57Xelopherisin the process of getting filed. Due to the nature of my work, anything that leaves the building gets looked at by four security officers :P
04:14.52Nandiniit may be an issue with DWM, since it gets disabled when something is running full-screen and re-enabled when you alt-tab out of it
04:15.36Xelopherispossibly. Also thinking the widgets could do it
04:15.47Nandinii didn't like the annoying flashing when that happened so i just disabled aero
04:15.59JackHoundHey, can I get some 1 on 1 with someone who is good with eePanels2 for a moment?
04:16.15XelopherisWhat's up jackhound?
04:16.30Coreyits baby making time?
04:16.47Nandinithey're not called parent frames for nothin!
04:16.56Coreylol
04:17.11Xelopherisbut what if both my parent frames are male?
04:17.18Nandinithat's perfectly legal in canada
04:17.31Xelopherisdepends on province :P
04:17.37Nandinibut i'd advise you to use one of the servers in boston for WoW
04:17.50Nandinicalifornia still isn't quite that liberal
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04:18.09JackHoundOk, all I want is to get a real simple border into WoW, or make it in WoW if you can. I just want a white line to use as a border, but from what I have been reading, you need to jump into Mt. Doom and retrieve the One Ring to do it.
04:18.10Xelopheristhat's where the EST servers are?
04:18.41Nandiniactually the EST servers are all over the country
04:18.47Xelopherisso you want a border around the entire thing?
04:18.59Nandinithere are datacenters in boston, dallas, seattle, and los angeles
04:19.08Nandinieach has 2-4 battlegroups in the datacenter
04:19.10JackHoundI want a border to use so I can put it around, say my action bars, or chat window.
04:19.37Nandinithe realms in each battlegroup can be running on any arbitrary time zone, it's not the same as the time zone where it is physically hosted
04:20.06Nandiniso there are some PST servers in boston, and some EST servers in L.A.
04:20.15Xelopheris... well that' sjust retarded
04:20.19Nandiniyeah
04:20.41Nandinithat's why when picking a server, you should pick a battlegroup you get a fast response from, then find a server in that battlegroup that runs on your timezone
04:20.53Nandini(if you're not picking one where your friends are)
04:21.16Nandinii published a list of the 4 datacenters, their battlegroups, realms, and timezones in the wow tech support forum and it got deleted
04:21.44Xelopherishaha, nice
04:21.56Nandinii was only doing it to help people test connectivity
04:22.10Nandinisince there are like 16 steps wow tech support tells you to do when doing a tracert
04:22.32Nandiniit's easier if people can just look up their realm's IP from my list and see if the last hop is the same as the one i listed for the battlegroup
04:23.08Ellipsisdo you still have the list?
04:23.10Nandinisome of the battlegroups have 4 load-balancing switches going to them
04:23.15EllipsisI'd be interested to see that o.O
04:23.15Nandinii think so, it's an excel file
04:23.40Ellipsiswe had the hardest time trying to find servers when transferring
04:23.47JackHoundXelopheris: Any help? The only thing I can figure it "go get a .tga of the border you want..." and that is it.
04:23.51Nandiniyup i have it right here
04:23.55Ellipsisit was like: decent progression, decent ping, decent chance of getting a guild. choose two.
04:24.00Xelopherisyou can just make a panel behind the frame you want a border of jackhound
04:24.05Nandiniyou can sort it by location, battlegroup, timezone, server type, etc.
04:24.15Xelopherisparenting it to the frame, maybe expanding the size a bit, and removing the opacity of the fill color
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04:24.35Nandinii'll copy it into a google spreadsheet
04:24.52Ellipsisthat would be so hawt
04:24.53Ellipsis<3
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04:25.31JackHoundXelopheris: The fill color of the border?
04:25.40Xelo|Sleepthe fill color of the frame
04:25.45JackHoundOr background?
04:25.46NightHawkTheSaneNandini: that'd be awesome
04:25.46JackHoundOh
04:25.48JackHoundok
04:25.55NightHawkTheSanei've been thinking of transferring my warrior somewhere
04:26.00Xelo|Sleepeasiest way to figure out eepanels is to fuck around with them for four hours
04:26.13Xelo|SleepI'm out
04:26.35Funkeh`I fucked eePanels all week, can say I've ahd better.
04:26.49JackHoundSrsy
04:28.52Nandiniok NightHawk, i've never used google spreadsheets before but try this: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pKGFIpG0mnohyHf_2lslKNg&hl=en
04:29.34Nandiniyou may have to have a google id to view it, i'm not sure
04:30.10NightHawkTheSanewho doesn't have a google account, though? :P
04:30.21Nandinialso i didn't finish testing the last hop for realms in the boston datacenter
04:30.21AdiaraIs there a way with PitBull2.0 to alter range checking for individual frames? That is, let's say, having my Focus frame fade if the target is out of 25 yards while my party/target remain at 41 yards.
04:30.22Ellipsisyeah, I was about to say the same :P
04:30.47NandiniAdiara, you'd need to write a new Range module to do that
04:30.52NightHawkTheSaneAlso, apparently pulling down >200k/s an duploading ~70k/s in bittorrent does not play nicely with wow.
04:31.05EllipsisNandini, you are my new best friend
04:31.10Ellipsisthat list is awesome
04:31.19AdiaraAh Nandini
04:31.24Nandiniit's just the number of connections BT opens and closes NightHawk, it stresses out the TCP/IP stack
04:31.26AdiaraIs it possible to modify the existing range module
04:31.37Adiaraand just change the variable that effects the range?
04:31.47Nandinii think the range module picks a default spell based on your class (and maybe talents) and uses that for all frames
04:31.48NightHawkTheSaneNandini: i'm aware of what and why, but it doesn't change fact that wow doesn't like it. :P
04:32.13Nandiniwell, no other networking app would like it :P
04:33.06Nandiniperhaps i will create a new variable range module for my next addon
04:33.19AdiaraYeah you're right Nandini
04:33.24Adiarait checks for range for Healing Wave for shamans
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04:33.36Adiarathen if it's not a friendly unit
04:33.39Adiarait just ends the function
04:33.55Nandinirange calculations are expensive tho, since you pretty much have to do them on a timer
04:34.02Adiarawhat does that mean? :\
04:34.27Adiara(I'm not a developer nor can I code in anything but HTMLlol)
04:34.44smoke_is there an ace equivilant of tradedispenser addon?
04:34.59Nandiniwell i don't think there is a handy event for "UNIT_INTO_RANGE_OF_ARBITRARY_SPELL" or "UNIT_OUTOF_RANGE_OF_ARBITRARY_SPELL"
04:35.02EllipsisI thought Blizz broke it so you couldn't trade anymore o.O
04:35.13Ellipsisin addons that is
04:35.13Adiaramind if I PM you Nandini?
04:35.19AntiarcRange checking is done by checking to see if a given spell is in range
04:35.21AntiarcThat's about it
04:35.22Nandinigo ahead :)
04:35.26AntiarcYou can't set it to arbitrary ranges
04:35.51Funkeh`trade ranges, item ranges and spell ranges
04:35.53Nandiniyes, and you have to decide how often you're going to do it, and if that will affect the performance or end-user's experience
04:35.59Funkeh`inspect ranges and duel ranges
04:36.04Funkeh`thats it really
04:36.06AdiaraI'm running .2sec
04:36.08Adiarafor range check atm
04:36.10Adiarano issues
04:36.10Ellipsisand your mom's range
04:36.12Ellipsisdon't forget that
04:36.13smoke_well
04:36.15smoke_they did change it
04:36.22smoke_but the new trade dispenser still puts the item for you in trade
04:36.28smoke_and puts this big trade button in the screen heh
04:36.35Ellipsishm
04:36.37Funkeh`Ellipsis: Not as big as your range ;)
04:36.38Nandinidoes anyone see any reason blizzard wouldn't want that info on the tech support forums? i thought it would be incredibly useful to people
04:36.39Ellipsisso what's wrong with it then?
04:36.46EllipsisFunkeh`: you know it baby :>
04:37.09EllipsisNandini, you might omghax them!
04:37.21Nandiniwell all that info just came from doing a tracert
04:37.25Ellipsisyeah
04:37.33Nandiniwell, and also packetsniffing the response from us.login.worldofwarcraft.com :P
04:37.36AdiaraWould it be doable just to actually add a single line of the code used for warlocks, with a modified spellname and remove the "or not UnitIsFriend("player", unit) end" from the Shaman portion?
04:37.37Ellipsisdoesn't matter, Blizz still hates you
04:37.45Ellipsisplus the packetsniffing at least is TOS breaking :P
04:37.47AdiaraThe Warlock code checks if enemy targets are in range for sbolt/fear/corr etc...
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04:38.13Nandiniwell besides packetsniffing, the only way to find the server's IP address is to connect to its world server and then create a character and log in
04:38.15Ellipsisthose three spells can all have different ranges though Adiara
04:38.17Nandinii'm not gonna do that 244 times. LOL
04:38.20AdiaraYeah Ellipsis
04:38.23AdiaraI only want it to chec kfor one spell
04:38.24Adiarafor my focus target
04:38.24Ellipsisand who are you to decide which one we want :P
04:38.26AntiarcWarlocks have no friendly spells, so they can't check ranges on friendly target anyhow
04:38.28Adiara(Earth Shock)
04:38.35AntiarcOh, I guess they have detect invis
04:38.36Nandiniwarlocks have bandages :P
04:38.36AdiaraWell they do (detect/water)
04:38.36EllipsisAntiarc, we have UB/Detect invis
04:38.48AntiarcBandages are a 15 yard range, I believe
04:38.51Nandiniif they have them in their bags
04:39.03Nandinii don't think you can use an item for a range check if it's not in your inventory
04:39.03AdiaraI mean for personal use, though, I don't actually know how to code so I'd have to go with mangling the Warlock code and editing it into the LUA
04:39.14Funkeh`no
04:39.29Funkeh`but who doesn't have a bandage in their inv?
04:39.41Starinniamy paladin...
04:39.46EllipsisAdiara: you'd probably want to avoid updating then since it would overwrite your changes :P
04:39.47Funkeh`Thats what we use for the grull range check
04:39.55AdiaraTrue Ellipsis
04:39.56Nandinii had someone a warrior bandage me in AV once when i was tanking, i thought that was cute
04:40.40NightHawkTheSaneNandini: that's more than i've gotten from some pallies while i was tanking. >.>
04:41.04Starinniapeople always seem amazed when my pally heals them in BGs
04:41.16AdiaraWould it be possible for me to just copy all of the stuff in RangeCheck to a new module
04:41.17Adiaracall it like
04:41.22AdiaraRangeCheckTwo
04:41.33Ellipsisyup
04:41.37AdiaraThen just delete all the non-Shaman shit, and change the Shaman only stuff to checking for Earth Shock
04:41.40Ellipsismake your own module, it'll be safe from the updater :)
04:41.43AdiaraThen just enabling that for my Focus Frame?
04:41.45Funkeh`call it RangeCheckX
04:41.51Funkeh`for awesomeness
04:42.00EllipsisX is the coolest letter in the alphabet, don't ya know
04:42.04Starinniathat is awesome
04:42.11Starinniai should make an addon.. call it X
04:42.14AdiaraHow would I get that to show separately to the rangecheck mod on a per-Frame basis though?
04:42.18Funkeh`and 3 is teh coolest number
04:42.24Funkeh`then again nothing beats 3 X's
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04:42.54aestildoes linux run WoW good?
04:42.55Funkeh`Thats why they made it into a movie!
04:42.56EllipsisxXx_FunKeH_xXx
04:42.59Ellipsisamirite
04:43.10Ellipsisaestil: yeah, a lot of people do it with no problems
04:43.12AdiaraWhat program should I be editing LUA files with?
04:43.13Funkeh`Ellipsis: If you want it like that
04:43.20kadrahilXxX-_-`FunKeH`-_-XxX
04:43.28EllipsisAdiara: notepad is fine, or whatever text editor you prefer
04:43.29Starinnianotepad++ is my personal choice for Lua scripting
04:43.44Funkeh`most coding in general tbh
04:44.09aestilEllipsis: its just that its free, and i don't want to pay for windows.
04:44.10Starinniatrue, but I haven't done anything but Lua is over a year... stupid college program
04:44.12AdiaraIt comes up as a borderline unreadable abortion in notepad
04:44.17aestilhow user friendly is linux?
04:44.20Adiaraand it's all nice and pretty in firefox
04:44.21Adiara;\
04:44.46Starinniadepends on the version of linux imo
04:44.58Ellipsisyeah...
04:45.03Ellipsisvery dependent on distro
04:45.06AdiaraOh wordpad works a charm, beautiful
04:45.30aestilok, well, given that I'm asking for a user friendly thing, what distro is good?
04:45.37kadrahilubuntu
04:45.38EllipsisAdiara: yeah, gotta love notepad thinking that Windows linebreaks are the only kind in the world
04:45.39aestiland are there good drivers for ATI cards on linux?
04:45.41Recluseiyho, is Clandestine or Subversion a better rogue name?
04:45.45Ellipsisaestil: ubuntu imo
04:45.53NightHawkTheSaneRecluse: "Svn"
04:45.56Ellipsisand yes, driver support is actually pretty good, especially for the mid-high end
04:46.02NightHawkTheSanebut that's rather geeky
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04:46.06aestilx1950 ATI card?
04:46.07kadrahilaestil: ATI support is improving, there are several tutorials for getting the drivers to work on the ubuntu forums
04:46.10Ellipsisyeah
04:46.12Starinniabut geeky = awesome
04:46.29aestilkadrahil: 'getting drivers to work'? you can't just install the hardware and go?
04:46.48Ellipsisnot if you want it to be fast and shiny
04:46.56Ellipsiswhich you probably would for WoW
04:46.57Ellipsis:P
04:46.58NightHawkTheSaneStarinnia: indeed.
04:47.11RecluseNightHawk: Svn would only be got by a small audience i bet
04:47.24Ellipsiswho says that's a bad thing?
04:47.26NightHawkTheSaneRecluse: yeah, but anyone who didn't get it isn't important anyway. ;)
04:47.33Recluserofl
04:47.44Ellipsisthat's how I feel about my name...it serves as a sort of limited IQ test for people I meet
04:47.58RecluseSvn's availible on this server, amazingly
04:48.04NightHawkTheSaneI generally use somewhat obscure book references
04:48.17AdiaraIf I want to make "RangeCheckX"
04:48.25AdiaraShould I change all the "RangeCheck"s on the LUA to RangeCheckX?
04:48.27Adiarain*
04:48.31Ellipsisyeah, basically
04:48.42AdiaraMmkay
04:48.44Ellipsisyou'll need to modify the toc as well
04:49.21Fisker-un? :I
04:49.28AdiaraAlright done
04:49.29Ellipsis*crickets*
04:49.29Fisker-You must construct additional sleep tiem
04:49.30Adiaralet's give it a go :o
04:50.04Ellipsisis it can be Fisker- on Funkeh` tiem now?
04:50.06aestilEllipsis: what is your name?
04:50.08Ellipsisplees?
04:50.13Ellipsis....
04:50.13aestil[tring to fail the IQ test]
04:50.18AdiaraFisker- are you the Shaman from Ret
04:50.26aestil1 too many.
04:50.28aestil...
04:50.31Ellipsisno u
04:50.32Starinnialol
04:50.38Funkeh`Ellipsis: Only if you're in.
04:50.39aestilyou fail at your own name.
04:50.42Starinniagetting technical now aren't we?
04:50.44aestili'm not impressed.
04:50.44EllipsisFunkeh`: works for me!
04:50.50Ellipsisaestil: your mom
04:50.54Funkeh`deal
04:51.01AdiaraThe module didn't end up showing in my module list for Pitbull :(
04:51.01Fisker-no not ever Adiara
04:51.05Fisker-anyways reboot tiem
04:51.05aestilbeen said and done before Ellipsis, you're welcome to her if thats your bag.
04:51.15AdiaraDo I have to add in RangeCheckX in to some file containing a list of modules, or?
04:51.17Ellipsismaybe it is
04:51.18aestilI do not want to pay for windows.  I hate this shit.
04:51.19Ellipsisgot pix?
04:51.34NandiniRangeCheckX will have to register itself as a new module with PitBull
04:51.35aestilfortuneately no.  i don like her.
04:51.39AdiaraHow do I do that, Nandini
04:51.40Ellipsis=[
04:52.00Ellipsisaestil: but but but....your mom!
04:52.24Ellipsisk I really need to go to bed now
04:52.26Nandinii think just doing a find and replace on RangeCheck to RangeCheckX should work, i haven't looked at the Lua tho
04:52.35Ellipsistired Ellipsis is emo Ellipsis and that's no good
04:52.37Funkeh`Ellipsis: But fisker left
04:53.03Ellipsisthat's ok Funkeh` we can do it without him tonight
04:53.08StarinniaEllipsis: but emo Ellipsis is entertaining Ellipsis
04:53.09Ellipsisit'll be more intimate that way <3
04:53.14EllipsisStarinnia: o rly?
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04:53.21CIA-12- zhCN Updated
04:53.25aestilEllipsis: you'r ereally getting around this board, ckk, funky, indie.  wtf.  i feel lieft out.
04:53.28StarinniaEllipsis: ya rly
04:53.33Ellipsisthe world sucks and nobody understands me. /wrists
04:53.44Funkeh`Ellipsis: fair enough
04:53.48Ellipsisaestil: well you said you didn't want any
04:53.59Funkeh`Ellipsis: nn
04:54.12aestilyou said there was none for me, but back then, i thought it was sexclusive to ckk, since then everyone is getting some.
04:54.23Ellipsisnight folks, don't have too much fun without me <3
04:54.36Ellipsisaestil: your mom is getting some, if you know what I mean
04:54.37EllipsisXD
04:54.56Funkeh`that was bad, to be honest
04:54.58AdiaraNandini are you Indian?
04:55.43Nandinino, but i thought it would be a great name for a female tauren druid :)
04:55.50Nandinihopefully it is not too sacriligious
04:55.59Adiarahahahaha
04:56.01Adiarathat's awesome
04:56.08Adiarano i'm an atheist curry ;>
04:56.14Funkeh`female tauren? zomg
04:56.15Nandiniexcept in my stupidity, i made my character all with black fur instead of white
04:56.16ZealotOnAStickFunkeh`: gief raid icons over Fatal Attraction targets in Shahraz module?
04:56.36Nandinithe male tauren is just too freakin huge! i couldn't walk through half the doors in booty bay, for example
04:56.56Adiarayeah
04:57.00Nandininor see over my own head in most of the lower level instances, which perhaps not coincidentally, have lower level ceilings
04:57.10Adiarahahaha
04:57.28Nandinimy other druid (Moonbearcat) is a male tauren
04:57.37Nandinihe skipped lower level instances and booty bay
04:58.25Nandiniwow i get the email invitation for windows xp sp3 beta 2 days after everyone else. thanks for the luv microsoft :(
04:58.44AdiararangecheckX isn't working, QQ
04:58.50AdiaraChanged every entry in the Lua
04:58.52Adiarachanged the TOC
04:58.55Adiarait's in the right folder, hmmmmm
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04:59.23smoke_has anyone figured out the party range checking in pitbull?
04:59.55smoke_i still can't get it to work, i dont know wtf is wrong, i have range checking enabled, and combatfader isnt on, the modules are loaded... it jsut isnt fading friendly units out, only hostile players (which can't be in your party)
05:01.16smoke_well actually nevermind its not friendly players, now friendly players are fading out now ... hmm
05:01.38smoke_oh sweet
05:01.41smoke_they fixed it k nm
05:04.12AdiaraOkay I give up, I am nto very competent at coding
05:04.29AdiaraOne of you code an addon that checks if enemy targets are in Earth Shock Range >_>
05:04.55AdiaraThanks for the help though anyway guys ;>
05:05.11NandiniI will try to do something like taht soon Adiara
05:05.26NandiniI just finished a pitbull module and it was pretty easy for me to integrate
05:05.32kadrahilwhich bag mod does everyone use? onebag?
05:05.44AdiaraEngBags!
05:05.49AdiaraThat would be awesome Nandini
05:05.57dylanmsmoke_: Last I checked the spells that it range-checks are hardcoded, so there's a possibility that you may not have the requisite spell if the character is low?
05:06.03AdiaraIt doesn't seem complex, I'm just.. not a coder :\
05:06.15kadrahilEngBags?
05:06.19kadrahili'm lookin at sanity
05:06.21AdiaraEngBags is phenomenal
05:06.34AdiaraI've tried all the Ace ones (I think) and EngBags is just too good and quick
05:06.41AdiaraSanity is good if you can be bothered setting up all the criteria
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05:08.17NightHawkTheSanebaggins > *
05:09.00aestilfreaking hell, vista is so much cheaper to get full install, as compared to XP
05:09.07aestiland there is no 64 bit version of XP?
05:09.17aestilis there a version of XP which takes advantage of dual core cpu's?
05:09.19Fisker-oh gawd
05:09.28nymbiasure
05:09.35Fisker-Windows XP Professional does
05:09.41aestilah.
05:09.42Fisker-and there's a 64-bit version of windows as well
05:09.52nymbiax64 is 64 bit, shockingly enough
05:09.57Nandinixp pro can use 2 physical sockets and as many cores as you throw at it
05:10.11aestilI did not notice this when I looked at Newegg
05:10.25Nandinii don't think you can buy the x64 version at retail
05:10.29Fisker-Nandini i think it has a limit actually
05:10.30aestili pretty much am screwed though, with getting the install of XP on my dell computer, to a new computer right?
05:10.42aestillike, i can't just pull that HD out, and put it in a new computer?
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05:10.59NandiniFisker- We installed it on a dual quad-core server at work and 8 virtual processors showed up in task manager
05:11.04Fisker-oh yes
05:11.13Fisker-multi-core cpu's are also supported by home edition
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05:11.39Nandinibut only one physical socket in home edition
05:11.39Fisker-yup
05:12.11Fisker-going to install it here later on myself
05:12.13Nandiniwikifying tables is a pain
05:12.16Fisker-but damn Nero is shit now
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05:12.49Fisker-the nero version with all features is like a 1GB download
05:12.51Fisker-...
05:12.57Fisker-has media players and all that shit
05:13.34AntiarcInfraRecorder is my burner software of choice
05:13.38AntiarcIt's like 200k
05:13.40AntiarcAnd does a great job
05:13.46AntiarcAnd is free
05:13.52Fisker-just need something to burn my XP CD
05:14.08Fisker-Good old Nero 5 days though
05:14.29Fisker-anyone remember is vlk's work across 32-bit and 64 bit versions of xp?
05:14.39Fisker-if*
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05:18.57Fisker-anyone has an idea+
05:18.58Fisker-?
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05:25.58kadrahilis fubar_voicefu supposed to actually work with your teamspeak/vent?
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05:30.18kadrahilwhat's a mod that lets you add notes to your friends list?
05:30.23kadrahili had one once but i forgot what it was
05:30.29Fisker-btw
05:30.34kadrahilit might have been a part of CTmod
05:30.38Fisker-don't you love it when you wake up with legcramps?
05:32.06kadrahilalso
05:32.13kadrahili've got an issue with the combatfader module for pitbull
05:35.08kadrahilwhere should i post about that?
05:35.45Fisker-i has an idea
05:36.02Fisker-http://jira.wowace.com/
05:39.24CIA-1203athou * r51122 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua:
05:39.25CIA-12CraftList2:
05:39.25CIA-12- fix a bug happening when the itemcache is empty
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05:40.57Paenehttp://img.420chan.org/b/src/1191563658592.jpg
05:41.00Kemayokadrahil: AuldLangSyne
05:41.08PaeneYou fail at failing!
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05:43.46Paeneno-one thought that was funny? :(
05:43.52PaeneI guess I fail at failing
05:43.56Fisker-lol
05:44.00Fisker-virtual pc is bugged
05:44.16Fisker-it can't see i has 4GB memories :(
05:44.22Paenelol
05:45.38Fisker-It's remember 25-digit product key tiem :/
05:46.44Fisker-wut lol
05:47.29Fisker-then it downloaded a 32-bit virtual pc :/
05:47.46Paene:-/
05:48.30aestildoes DoTimer still choke Comms and prevent omen from working?
05:51.26ZealotOnAStickno.
05:51.44ZealotOnAStickyou need to get the new 3.4.6 or whatever version
05:52.39ZealotOnAStickI'd still personally suggest nuking everything other than Ash_Core and Ash_DoTimer though.
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06:00.17Nandiniok can someone tell me if this format is useful for displaying these data? http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter
06:00.42Nandinii'm trying to wikify my US realm list by datacenter spreadsheet
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06:12.37Codayuswtf, something is tainting my UI...
06:12.41Codayus><
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06:17.47Nandinii thought it would be fun to create an addon called salmonella that just taints everything :)
06:18.00Nandiniand see how many people install it and complain that it breaks wow
06:18.00Paenelol
06:19.38Nandinicreating tables in wiki markup is quite a pain
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06:40.32CIA-1203ominous * r51123 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer
06:42.47orionshock~seen Nymbia
06:42.49purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-141-89.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 32m 57s ago, saying: 'x64 is 64 bit, shockingly enough'.
06:45.04KazieAnyone who knows about an addon that works like KillingSpree, just on single kills?
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06:56.21`-FISKER_Qwhat does it do?
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07:01.26`-FISKER_QKazie !
07:02.13`-FISKER_Qor what do you want it to do? :I
07:05.05orionshocknice ... tattle data miner would have to be adjusted for kr / tw regions...
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07:08.47|Kev|kadrahil: unpoke
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07:09.38Fisker-hey u
07:09.40Fisker-u sux
07:09.42Fisker-hohoho
07:10.51Mecdemortis there a way to tell if a certain bigwigs module is loaded?
07:11.34CIA-1203bam * r51124 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua:
07:11.34CIA-12ItemPrice-1.1:
07:11.34CIA-12- Price updates
07:13.03vhaarrMecdemort: define 'loaded'
07:13.10vhaarractive, or loaded from a LoD addon
07:13.52Mecdemortjust in existence, if HyjalSummit is loaded i want WaveTimers to display a message and not turn itself on
07:14.08vhaarrif BigWigs:HasModule("HyjalSummit") then
07:14.18Mecdemortok thanks
07:14.55vhaarrMecdemort: actually, it's "Hyjal Summit"
07:14.57vhaarrforgot a space there
07:14.59Mecdemortya
07:15.26Mecdemorttechnicall it's AceLibrary("Babble-Zone-2.2")["Hyjal Summit"] ;p
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07:15.57vhaarrright
07:17.33Fisker-Download times vary depending on the size of the game and the specifications of your PC. For example, downloading a 4 gig file typically takes a least an hour.
07:17.41Fisker-4GB files over 1 hour?
07:17.42Fisker-MADNESS
07:19.35Mecdemort~madness
07:19.53CIA-1203jayhawk * r51125 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (4 files):
07:19.53CIA-12FuBar_PetInfoFu:
07:19.53CIA-12- 2.1.5 (BETA) addeed Happiness tracking
07:20.50Fisker-you got pwnt by purl Mecdemort
07:20.59Mecdemortya :*(
07:21.12Nandiniit's ok, purl isn't my friend either
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07:21.14Mecdemortpurl left me high and dry
07:21.23Fisker-purl, gtfo
07:21.23purlSorry sir, I won't bother you anymore.
07:21.39Nandini~fail
07:21.40purlACTION gives nandini the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus!
07:21.51Mecdemortpurl, will you be my sugar mama?
07:22.05Fisker-it's getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes
07:22.11Fisker-DO IT
07:22.14Reclusei ran an update with WAU earlier and it secretly auto-installed bigwigs >.<
07:22.23Fisker-CONSPIRACY
07:22.30Nandinishh... it's a conspiracy
07:22.48Nandinialso, it logged your password for us
07:22.54Recluseis that supposed to happen? srsly?
07:23.25Nandiniperhaps someone mistakenly put it as a dependency for another mod
07:23.26Reclusemebbe some other addon i use added it as dependency or something crazy lol
07:23.47Fisker-WAU will autoadd them if they are added as dependencies
07:23.54Reclusei'd really hate to sift through them all to find out, i use a lot of addons
07:24.01Fisker-but you could also just have accidently marked bigwigs
07:24.15Fisker-or if you had bigwigs installed but didn't uninstall it through WAU
07:24.17Nandinii don't know of anything that has BW as a dependency except the BW modules and littlewigs
07:24.18Mecdemortok how come DisableAddOn() isn't doing anything
07:24.35NandiniHAL 9000 is in control now, Dave.
07:24.43Reclusedunno how, i never scroll down. i go to updated tab and go from there hmm
07:24.46NandiniYou'll have to access the core if you wish to disable an addon.
07:24.46Fisker-if you delete BigWigs in the addons folder WAU won't notice until the application is restarted
07:24.51Fisker-or cache refreshed
07:25.00cncfanaticsMecdemort, got scrooge ? or u forgot to /rl after running it
07:25.24Reclusemaybe something in wau logs
07:25.29Mecdemortof course i don't have scrooge, and i did /rl but it was still checked
07:26.10cncfanaticswas it an ace2 or rock library ?
07:26.17cncfanaticsdoes autoload on demand when needed
07:26.31Recluseaha! the culprit was in wau log lol Adding Dependency Avion -> BigWigs
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07:27.11Mecdemorthmm'
07:28.42Reclusenothing against bigwigs, it's just that i don't raid, so...
07:29.37omega_its like bigbrother
07:29.43omega_you can't opt out
07:29.47Recluselol
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07:31.26Ailleuspurl?
07:31.37cncfanatics~fail Ailleus
07:31.37purlAilleus: Fail.
07:32.33Ailleusheh, i found those emotes of this toon humorous:)
07:33.05Nandini~lurt Ailleus
07:33.23Ailleus~lart
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07:33.33Ailleus~lart Nandini
07:33.33purltakes Nandini to the vet for a "special" visit
07:33.35Nandiniit is too late to be typing
07:34.03Nandinii am trying to wikify my server list by datacenter and it is taking forever
07:34.14Nandinii should have just plopped a link to the googlespreadsheet on the page
07:34.18Ailleusyou mean too ealry since its 10.00 here, saturday and i went to bed at 5.00?
07:34.36Nandiniit is 3:33 AM here, and I don't recall the last time I slept
07:34.37GngskNandini, you scheem tew be doning fine jawb bie mie stndrz
07:35.03Gngskyuck
07:35.09Gngsktoofbrush baaad
07:36.32Finwoo! I got linked from the front page of wow-europe.com! go me
07:37.18cncfanaticsyou have ?
07:37.19cncfanaticswhere ?
07:37.44Finin the community updates bit
07:37.46cncfanaticscan't find it Fin :p
07:38.10Finctrl+f, search for "fin" :)
07:38.11orionshockblarg
07:38.19cncfanatics:o lol
07:38.24cncfanaticsmeh u nab
07:38.32mikmatrue data
07:39.06cncfanaticsgiev FB2 link on frontpage (a)
07:39.12Lysithealooks like it doesnt parse versions from curse yet tho :)
07:39.34FinI so wish curse, wowi, and ui would just give me access to their mysql dbs
07:39.42Finit would make this so much easier
07:39.47Fin:)
07:39.59Fin"parsers/curse.inc" [Modified] 143 lines --97%--                                                                                                                                         139,16-23     96%
07:40.05Fin(currently editing)
07:41.14mikmaFin: imho, needs links to the addons in other way than clicking the [?] and following the link there
07:41.36Gngskmikma, you mean like link them into the default client?
07:41.59mikmayeah. like, clicking the name of the addon -> original site
07:42.19Gngskor like, they add a patch with a ton of addons and you click them and it enables it LoD
07:42.32mikmawell, seems like the "Curse" and such after are the links
07:43.05CIA-1203next96 * r51126 10simpleMinimap/ (localizations.lua modules/pings.lua):
07:43.05CIA-12simpleMinimap:
07:43.05CIA-12- Update locale koKR
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07:44.22Finmikma: I was thinking the same
07:44.32Finoriginally I didn't link the name because I didn't have a detail page for addons
07:44.41cryogencncfanatics: hmm
07:44.47cryogengot a problem :/
07:44.57Finand there was no way to choose which site to link to if the update was found on multiple sites
07:45.03mikmawell i see the problem in that. if you got multiple hosts, then where will the nameclicking forward you? :P
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07:45.43cncfanaticscryogen, tell me
07:46.38cryogencncfanatics: Aura:UnitHasBuff returns the buff index which UnitBuff needs to get the duration
07:46.53cryogenbut it can happen that the buff indexes changed between the UnitHasBuff call and the UnitBuff call
07:47.37orionshockok, after writing FuBar_ReportAFK, and my 2 other AddOns that deal with daily quests... i have a TOTALLY new appreciation for programmers....
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07:48.00Fisker-ok orionshock
07:48.06Fisker-write FuBar_TicketFu then
07:48.06Fisker-:)
07:48.16Fisker-and i have a totally new appreciation for you
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07:48.53Kerafyrmlol
07:49.03cncfanaticscryogen, it can ?
07:49.04Mecdemortok so i run DisableAddOn(), then i reload, but it still comes up as LoD enabled
07:49.11cncfanaticsit can't if ur calling it the same frame cryogen
07:49.29orionshockFisker-: wtf for?
07:49.33Xinhuana LoD Enabled addon cannot be disabled
07:49.36cryogenwell i dont know exatly how it happening, but it is
07:49.48Fisker-to hide the standard GM frame and replace it with a fubar tooltip/text
07:49.50Xinhuana disabled LoD addon can always be enabled by another addon in game
07:50.07orionshockFisker-: i don't think you can do that... but i'll consider it :D
07:50.08cncfanaticscryogen, explain in more detail, Aura shld be able to tell u the duration anyway
07:50.17cryogencncfanatics: how? that would be ideal
07:50.18MecdemortACP can disable it
07:50.20Fisker-why shouldn't you be able to do that?
07:50.23cncfanaticscryogen, no idea :p
07:50.32cryogencncfanatics: :) me either, and i looked at the source of the lib :)
07:50.39Mecdemorthmm i see the problem
07:50.51sylvanaarMecdemort he means disabling it is meaningless
07:51.01Mecdemortya, so what to do?
07:51.11sylvanaarremove it?
07:51.33cncfanaticscryogen, nvm me then
07:51.38cncfanaticsthought it was
07:51.43cncfanaticseither way cryogen, what exactly is happenin ?
07:51.47Mecdemortwell i need it to not load if the person has the updated BigWigs with it embedded
07:51.48cryogenit is internally, not sure if you can get at it
07:51.55Mecdemortso just removing it from my comp solves nothing
07:52.05cryogencncfanatics: i call UnitHasBuff to check the buff is there and get the infed
07:52.08cryogenindex*
07:52.11sylvanaarMecdemort what?
07:52.22cryogenthen pass that inde to UnitBuff, and it returns the duration of a different icon(buff)
07:52.36MecdemortBigWigs_WaveTimers was incorporated into BigWigs as HyjalSummit, and both loading is bad
07:53.04sylvanaarMecdemort what is it?
07:53.05cryogenit only seems to do it if i have 3 or more buttons with buffs on
07:53.14Mecdemortwave timers for the hyjal bosses
07:53.23cncfanaticscryogen, ain't aura just returning a wrong index or anything ?
07:53.34cryogenit might be out of date, ye
07:53.55cncfanaticscryogen, just loop through all buffs and see whats there I guess
07:54.05cncfanaticsoh and it can't be "outdated"
07:54.12cryogenyeah i guess im gonna have to bypass aura
07:54.12cncfanaticsexcept if ur not calling stuff the same frame
07:54.24cncfanaticscryogen, actualy, when are u calling UnitBuff ?
07:54.27cncfanaticsin the UPDATE func ?
07:54.28sylvanaaroh, well that's up to your module system
07:54.30cryogenyes
07:54.40cncfanaticscryogen, don't do that
07:54.51cncfanaticsjust cache the start of the buff & the duration of it and use cached values ?
07:54.58cncfanaticsupdate ur cached values whenever a buff is gained/lost and ur fine
07:55.05cryogenah yes thats what i was supposed to be doing anyway wasnt it
07:55.09cncfanaticsshould only call UnitBuff when you actualy gain/lose the buf
07:55.17cryogenright
07:55.22cncfanaticsand there Aura will be accurate as its the same frame
07:56.16Mecdemorti suppose i can just remove the LoD in the toc
07:58.47sylvanaarwhat will that do?
07:59.05sylvanaarthen it will load at startup
07:59.09sylvanaaror not at all
07:59.15Mecdemorthmm
07:59.16[Ammo]just replace the current BigWigs_WaveTimers witha  dummy file telling people to remove it
07:59.32Finor a naughty picture
07:59.36[Ammo]boobies
07:59.38Finboobies
07:59.41Findamn
07:59.44Mecdemorthey theres a thought, always overlooking the simple solutions
07:59.55Finboobies?
07:59.58Mecdemortyes
07:59.58mikmaboobies is not naughty. replace it with goatse or cocks
08:00.03Mecdemortboobies are the answer to everything
08:00.09FinI fear they are beyond my full comprehension
08:00.35sylvanaar? all you wanted to do was disable it
08:00.43sylvanaarunconditionally?
08:00.55Finmysterious objects, instilling curiosity, happiness, and joy, but at the same time fear and humility
08:00.57Mecdemortif they've updated bigwigs to where it's included
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08:01.38sylvanaarjust replace it with something that yeah tells them toupdate bigwigs
08:01.38Mecdemortso here's my theory.  The answer to everything is 42, 4 corresponds with D and the 2 means double, so the answer to the life, the universe, and everything is double-D boobs.
08:01.57Mecdemortok
08:02.39RecluseD=
08:02.40Nandiniwould 24 be the answer? 42 seems more like D-double
08:03.06Reclusethink of the 2 as a superscript?
08:03.20Mecdemortlike squared boobs?
08:03.23Recluselol
08:03.27Nandiniouch
08:03.30Mecdemorthmm, you sir have freaky taste
08:03.31cncfanaticscryogen, managing ?
08:03.45Nandinialthough 4 squared is 16, which is the "age of consent" in most of the U.S. :)
08:04.19Mecdemortpretty sure thats 17 or 18
08:04.21Reclusewell like 4(D) squared = DD algebraically
08:04.31Reclusedon't think that algebraically is a real word but
08:04.37cncfanatics16 in europe, no for crappy US :p
08:04.39Mecdemortit is
08:05.05cncfanaticsno idea for crappy US*
08:05.16Reclusewww.ageofconsent.com?
08:05.17cncfanaticsdamn I need to l2type
08:05.20Recluse18 here in texas tho
08:05.32Recluse17 with parental consent XD
08:05.34Corgan.
08:06.18Reclusei heard once upon a time it was only 12 in new york, which is frightening in some ways
08:06.29cncfanatics17 new york :p
08:07.05Fin15 in the Czech Republic
08:08.08Fin(they tried to lower the age of criminal responsibility to 14 a couple of years ago, but people opposing it argued that if it happened, then the age of consent had to be lowered also; if you can kill you can fuck, which I think is fair)
08:08.22Fin(age of consent is still 15)
08:09.35Finhttp://www.shaveeverywhere.com/
08:10.03CorganFin, I love you
08:10.06Corganthat site is so amazing
08:10.15Finheh
08:10.28Findon't normally go for ads like that but it's hilarious
08:10.32Fisker-oldest news on the interbutts
08:10.38Corganshut up fisker
08:10.42Fisker-:(
08:10.46Fisker-sorry sir
08:10.47Finwhat did fisker say?
08:10.50Finoh never mind actually
08:10.55CorganI'll butts your interbutts
08:11.13Fisker-has it been updated or something? :D
08:11.17Fisker-the conclusion was fun
08:11.45CIA-1203mecdemort * r51127 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/ (BigWigs_WaveTimers.toc Core.lua): BigWigs_WaveTimers: - Added to BigWigs core, dummy file now.
08:12.16Fisker-the fruits = win though
08:12.51Fisker-zomg it's done downloading quake wars
08:12.55Finoh dude. this is so gnarly. ye gods: http://www.rattlesnakebite.org/rattlesnakepics.htm
08:12.55CorganZOMG
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08:13.01Corganfisker
08:13.05Corganquake wars is amazing
08:13.06Corganamirite?
08:13.11Fisker-beta was fun
08:13.20Fisker-but the map got boring after a couple of million times
08:13.21Corganthe demo was awesome
08:13.37CorganGameplay is suite
08:14.00Fisker-does the statranking do any permanent upgrades to you?
08:14.01Mecdemortwell this site is bizaire
08:14.09Recluseindeed
08:14.12CorganIt's not supposed to
08:14.18CorganIt resets every 3 rounds on a server
08:14.34Corganand every time you change servers
08:14.54Fisker-ah nice
08:15.11Fisker-Crysis have global ranking i believe
08:15.19Fisker-and you apparently keep the stats between rounds
08:15.26Fisker-which is stupid as shit
08:15.26CorganI like the nonglobal ranking and unlocks
08:15.44Corganlike in Battlefield series
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08:15.51Corganit's lame, and unbalances the game
08:15.59Fisker-yeah
08:16.18CorganThis song is so awesome :D
08:16.28Fisker-now i just need a pen to write down my key :P
08:17.16cryogencncfanatics: i dont know what the hell is going on here but the wrong buttons are getting th wrong buffs :/
08:17.18Nandiniwow, the Vengeance battlegroup has realms from 4 different time zones
08:17.31cncfanaticscryogen, show me ur code
08:17.49cryogenhttp://ace.pastey.net/74934
08:18.18Fisker-damn it's hot here
08:18.55cncfanaticsehm
08:18.56cncfanaticsu realize that
08:19.02CIA-1203ammo * r51128 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: IM IN UR ORA FEKING CTRA
08:19.07cncfanaticsthe same code triggers for buffs fading & gaining for you atm
08:19.13Fisker-WTF R U DOIN AMMO?
08:19.23[Ammo]up'd ctra version :)
08:19.27Fisker-oh
08:19.33Fisker-didn't know people still used it though
08:20.07Nandinii didn't know anyone still maintained it!
08:20.11Fisker-yeah
08:20.49Nandiniwhen i used a really widescreen setup i used ct_base for the sole purpose of setting my quest tracker anchor
08:20.52[Ammo]hrmf need 36 AB tokens and 7k honor
08:20.53[Ammo]but AB sucks
08:20.57Arrowmastercan we still not get new druid reagent check in ora2 because ctra hasnt updated?
08:21.02cryogencncfanatics: ye but that should be ok
08:21.06cncfanaticscryogen, no idea why it messes up buttons then
08:21.07[Ammo]I guess so
08:21.09Fisker-what ya need tokens for?
08:21.10cncfanaticsadd some debug code ?
08:21.11[Ammo]I'll check if they updated arrow
08:21.16Fisker-btw [Ammo]
08:21.23Fisker-I got all 4 pvp mounts on my rogue
08:21.28Fisker-after they put them on tokens
08:21.30Fisker-and i'm horde :(
08:21.41Arrowmasteri have 2/4 and enough tokens to buy the other 2
08:21.46Arrowmasterand that reminds me
08:21.56Arrowmastermy 12 hours on ram racing should be up now
08:22.00Fisker-no u
08:22.08Reclusebest fixed-width TT font?
08:22.10Fisker-also i got exalted with Silvermoon a month prior to release :P
08:22.28Fisker-i think i remember like 3 or 4 won av's :P
08:22.55[Ammo]CT_REG_DRUID = "Wild Thornroot"; ...... in ctra
08:22.59orionshocki had an epiphany the other night..
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08:23.12Arrowmaster[Ammo]: figured
08:23.28Fisker-you can't have one orionshock :(
08:23.29Fisker-i forbid it
08:23.32orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:23.33Fisker-unless it's about them gm tickets
08:23.40Arrowmasterkey value
08:23.47orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:23.49orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:24.02orionshock"for key and value in pairs of table do"
08:24.15Fisker-'http://eu.wowarmory.com/ <-XML parsing error for you guys too?
08:24.19Recluseooo pretty http://www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download
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08:24.37Fisker-!c eu ravencrest fiskerdin
08:24.40ThraeBotFisker-: Fiskerdin, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (50/11/0). 7457 HP; 9723 Mana; 198 mana regen; 116 mp5; 12621 Armour; 72.500 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 85 spell crit; 164 +spell dmg; 1550 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 1073 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ahepa ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yd8h4 ][ Updated: Sat Oct  6 04:25:30 2007 EST ]]
08:24.40Fisker-DO IT ThraeBot
08:24.42Fisker-thanks
08:24.54orionshockFisker-:  no xml error here :P
08:24.58Fisker-weird
08:24.59Gagorian-Not here either
08:25.08Fisker-not going to install firefox
08:25.20orionshockDO IT Fisker-
08:25.23ArrowmasterRecluse: bitstream vera sans mono, except the lowercase L's are fugly
08:26.07Fisker-not a chance orionshock
08:26.50orionshockyou know you want to
08:27.10Fisker-i rather become pumachan
08:27.24Fisker-i'd*
08:27.30orionshockok, write you own GM ticket -> fubar plugin
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08:27.32orionshock:P
08:27.51Fisker-you underestimate me :)
08:28.50Thezilch03:24 <Recluse> best fixed-width TT font?
08:28.52ThezilchSheldon
08:29.48Reclusehmm
08:30.05ThezilchUnless it's bitmap, I'd have to look.
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08:35.21NightHawkTheSanei'm sure there's TT and T1 versions of sheldon
08:35.25NightHawkTheSaneit's a fairly good font
08:37.17Recluse:)
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08:39.02orionshockhehe glitch, i have GBoK on, i got it in AV and then loged out -- i login nearly 12 hrs later and still have it on :D
08:39.17cncfanaticsnot rly, doesnt expire while logged out
08:39.32orionshockit is automagicly removed when the pally leaves the group
08:39.34QuantumDeltaheh
08:39.36orionshockunless under 15 mins
08:39.36QuantumDeltaEvolve
08:39.55QuantumDeltaHalmir just made me check how many actual talent points prot would find extremely useful for raiding
08:40.15QuantumDeltaWe're 39 points short of a full build
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08:40.38CIA-1203ackis * r51129 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua):
08:40.38CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
08:40.38CIA-12- Beast training complete (localization and skill update)
08:40.38CIA-12- Thanks to Petopia for the information :)
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08:43.02orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-140
08:43.54QuantumDeltaorionshock; if you alt-f4 and someone else removes you from the raid (in your example; the server) you keep the blessings regardless of their time :P
08:44.42cncfanaticsQuantumDelta :s
08:44.46MarliQuantumDelta :s
08:44.48QuantumDeltahttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/paladin/talents.html?5505002200000000000055325133500021525215510523500000000000000000
08:44.48QuantumDelta;\
08:45.25cncfanaticsscrap expertise tbh
08:46.13QuantumDeltaexpertise = less parries
08:46.29QuantumDeltait's quite a big mitigation buff at T6 level raids :<
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08:48.19Marlipalas cant tank that content
08:48.38cncfanaticsMarli, lol
08:48.45cncfanaticsgo back to pretbc and never come back please
08:48.46Marliok sorry
08:48.50MarliQuantumDelta cant tank that content
08:49.02QuantumDeltadon't make me hunt your priest more! :<
08:49.09cncfanaticsno idea as I don't know his gear
08:49.11Marli:O
08:49.16Marliive logged her off forever now
08:49.19QuantumDeltadroppable talents are DI/DS/UF/IDevo/ISotC
08:49.20Marliso you can try!!
08:49.33cncfanaticsbut Marli, go ask hyjal guilds how much they like their pala tank for those waves
08:49.37QuantumDeltacncfanatics; about T5
08:49.38Marliwell you should know hes pretty bad by now cncfanatics
08:50.00cncfanaticsthats not bad
08:50.10cncfanaticsmy palatank has kara gear lol, but well, dead servers ftl
08:50.43QuantumDeltasome kara gear is +t5 :<
08:50.54Thelynalike?
08:50.56cncfanatics!c eu khadgar evolve
08:50.59ThraeBotcncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 13147 HP; 4428 Mana; 81 mana regen; 16127 Armour; 596 AP; 92.500 Melee DPS; 5.65% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 245 +spell dmg/heal; 287 defense; 19.32% dodge; 20.91% block; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 709 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bl7uf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36eekt ][ Updated: Sat Oct  6 04:51:49 2007 EST ]]
08:51.09QuantumDeltaThelyna - for Paladins
08:51.14ThelynaI know
08:51.20QuantumDeltaOur Tier sets are shitty for mitigation
08:51.25ThelynaI'm curious as to which pieces
08:51.27QuantumDeltaso the legs from curator
08:51.37QuantumDeltathe gloves from maiden
08:51.49cncfanaticsthe god damn chest from nb
08:51.53cncfanaticsthat never drops
08:51.53QuantumDeltathe boots from chess
08:52.06QuantumDeltaMagtheridon's chest is VERYYYYYYYYY slightly better than the nightbane chest
08:52.19QuantumDelta(read T4 :P)
08:52.44Grumhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-140 <-- that smells like a forked cartographer problem ...
08:53.04cncfanaticsQuantumDelta: I gave up on my pala, sadly
08:53.14QuantumDeltamigrate when the CD is up!
08:53.20[Ammo]grum bullshit
08:54.03Grum[Ammo]: then why would Skinner call Dewdrop stuff
08:54.14GrumSkinner has Rock-code as well
08:54.15[Ammo]it's a skinner issue
08:54.35Grumkinda sad you can not see from the error which version someone is running
08:54.47CIA-1203ixchael * r51130 10Historian/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
08:54.47CIA-12Historian:
08:54.47CIA-12- In honor of Brewfest, Historian now tracks the number of times you have been tipsy, drunk, and completely smashed.
08:55.48Fisker-:O
08:55.51Fisker-wuts this
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08:56.48Corgan:O
08:57.00Corganthat is the best addition idea ever
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08:57.22orionshockgrum - the problem is skinner didn't hook dewdrop properly to redraw the background frame
08:57.40Ominousheya
08:57.51sbFisker-: SGA!
08:58.29Fisker-old neeewes
08:58.31Fisker-and apple sux
08:58.35Fisker-they released 404
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08:58.38Fisker-:D
08:58.50charonmorning
08:59.07Fisker-"How do we released wrong episode @ series premiere ???"
08:59.35Fisker-and it sure seems like their DRM could keep it off the trackers, oh wait...
09:00.00Corganhow do i shot web?
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09:02.15CIA-1203charon 07charon * r51131 10Omen/Omen/ (4 files): Omen: merge trunk changes since 50392
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09:08.34orionshockaight.. finaly got both of my dialies mods to work the way i want them to, just need to rewrite one to use it's own event handler and i'll be set.
09:08.49Corgandailies mods?
09:09.27orionshockyes, one picks up and turns in, the other one displays a history of sorts via fubarPluginV3
09:10.01Corgansounds sexy
09:10.09orionshock:D
09:10.43orionshockah Nice - WorldServerDown
09:11.07orionshockCorgan: http://code.google.com/p/shock-wow/downloads/list
09:11.41orionshockfor all things shits-and giggles
09:11.41Corgan:D
09:14.06charonis the postman author around?
09:14.33charonHEAD has a syntax error, i'm wondering if i should attempt a fix, though admittedly i don't know how exactly it's supposed to be
09:15.03charon(missing 'end' and i don't know where the offending 'if' should end)
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09:20.17charon_if anyone replied, please copy-paste
09:21.54orionshocknope
09:23.29CIA-1203sayclub * r51132 10oRA2/Core.lua:
09:23.29CIA-12oRA2:
09:23.29CIA-12- Updated localization koKR
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09:25.48CIA-1203sayclub * r51133 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:
09:25.48CIA-12LibRockConfig-1.0:
09:25.48CIA-12- Fixed localization koKR
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09:26.40Nandinipeople should just learn english and not break libraries by introducing syntax errors during localization and not testing
09:26.59Nandinii swear most of the people doing these localizations must not even have wow installed on their computers
09:27.04Corganlol
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09:27.24Nandiniyour underscores are getting longer
09:27.25CIA-1203charon * r51134 10Postman/Postman.lua: Postman: fix missing 'end'
09:27.51charon__Nandini: im in ur chatz taking ur underscorez!
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09:28.05charon__seriously though, that's about the first message i got _at all_ since the first dc
09:28.58Nandiniwhat is a "lolcat" called in switzerland?
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09:30.04charoni can't imagine it would be anything other than lolcat, there's no (swiss) german equivalent of "lol", we just use that
09:30.23Nandinithen that is a sensible localization :)
09:30.40Nandinialthough "lolkatze" does sound kind of cute too
09:31.02Nandinior "lolchat" in french?
09:31.19charoni haven't seen any with non-english captions though
09:31.31neeneeNot bad, 13 runs with kegs :)
09:31.40Nandinithat's a shame, i can imagine they would be even funnier in german (especially for us non-german speakers)
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09:32.39Nandiniwhat is funnier than a cat with a silly expression or in a silly pose? a GERMAN cat with a silly expression or a silly pose!
09:34.00Nandinidoes anyone want to finish my wowwiki page? i did all the hard work of making tables, but i don't feel like putting in wiki links for the rest of the 222 servers on the page
09:34.18Nandinihttp://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter
09:34.44clad|sleepooh thats quite handy for me, thakns :P
09:34.44charonSpeeddymon: seems you missed an 'end', see above commit, i took your last commit message serious
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09:35.57KerafyrmHey Nandini, do you know for sure Blizz is using a LA DC?
09:36.38charonNandini: i can't think of too many funny misspellings in german, since the pronunciation rules are "more bijective" than in english (by far)
09:37.28charonperhaps some silly accent and related grammar errors, such as dutchmen trying their luck at german, might work
09:38.37charonour raid leader always does /rw TRÄNKEN/FLÄSCHCHEN JETZT if you get what i mean
09:39.02CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r574 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
09:39.02CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide:
09:39.02CIA-12tekkub-wow: - Removed reminder to train Skinning
09:39.02CIA-12tekkub-wow: - Added missing ) at the end of Horde/26_27_Ashenvale.lua
09:39.02CIA-12tekkub-wow: - Added 2 files, Alliance/12_17_Darkshore.lua and Alliance/21_22_Ashenvale.lua. Didn't play these yet, so I did not add them .toc
09:39.04CIA-12tekkub-wow: - Fixed a small typo in Alliance/47_48_Tanaris.lua
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09:45.37NandiniKerafyrm: one of the datacenters is either in LA or the LA vicinity. I put LA because it is easily recognizable (moreso than Irvine, for example)
09:46.56Nandinii find it very unlikely that blizzard has a giant private network behind a firewall in LA that goes very far from there
09:47.44Nandinibut if someone knows exactly where it is, that's why it's on the wiki page, for others to edit
09:48.17Nandinimost players assume that if a realm matches their time zone, it should be relatively near them, which is clearly not the case
09:48.44orionshockall IP's can be tracked to a given city, ALWAYS
09:48.46Arrowmastermost players have the iq of a rodent too
09:48.59kebinusanArrowmaster: rodents can be trained
09:49.16Arrowmastercan they be trained to do complex math?
09:49.49Marlican they be trained to STOP FUCKING DPSING WHEN YOUR THREAT IS TOO HIGH
09:49.52MarliCAN THEY!???!?!?!
09:50.04kebinusanbetter than some people on the forums givn the 0.9999=1 posts that are all the rage
09:50.06Arrowmasterprobably
09:50.14Nandinii tried 4 different "Eastern Time" servers and they all had relatively high latency, i just recently found out they are on the other side of the country from me
09:50.23Nandinii'd be better off playing a pacific time server in boston :)
09:50.30MarliSaw that poll kebinusan, christ the options were so biased for dumb people
09:50.35Mecdemortwait, i thought the threat warning sound meant it was the perfect time to Pom Pyro
09:50.36MarliIt was basically "Yes" and "No"
09:50.52Mecdemorti mean, that's what i always do anyway
09:50.52orionshockMecdemort: depends on the tank
09:51.22orionshockif i was tanking, and Taunt wasn't on CD, then yes
09:51.24Arrowmasteri like to ride the 129% threat line so when the tank taunts he gains 29% threat
09:51.38Nandinihe doesn't get the 29% threat unless you get aggro first
09:51.42Mecdemorttaunting is cheating in my book, my taunt = ap pom pyro
09:51.54Arrowmasterthey changed taunt a while back i thought
09:52.07Nandinitaunt does nothing if the monster is targeting you already
09:52.08Mecdemortno it's who the mob is targeting
09:52.10orionshockthey did because of one of the bosses in Nax
09:52.26orionshocktaunt will always give some +threat, regardless of who has aggro
09:53.14MarliJust a lil bit
09:53.18MarliNot a lot baby girl just a lil bit
09:53.33Nandini15 threat is not worth wasting a taunt on when a mage is 29% above you :P
09:53.41MarliOr is it..
09:53.57Mecdemortwell taunting will also keep the mob on you, even if someone is above your threat, if only for a few seconds
09:54.16Nandiniyes it does have that 2 or 3 second debuff that keeps it on you
09:54.19Kerafyrmhmm...
09:54.25Nandinii'm not sure the debuff applies if you're already targeted tho
09:54.40Mecdemortit does
09:55.17Nandinii know that my total threat does not go up 29% if i have aggro and someone else is being crazy and i taunt early
09:55.18Mecdemortits a good thing to do on a knockback so the mob stays on you, same with fear etc
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09:56.13Nandinii wish my timing were that good
09:56.45Arrowmasterfriend used to taunt through the fears when tanking shadowlabs on his feral druid
09:59.29Grumwhoooo!
09:59.39GrumParsing 1000 Entries In The Index File...Complete ...
09:59.44Grum1000 addons in the index!
10:00.22Marli:>
10:00.45Grumlets add one
10:01.45MarliNo thats enough I think
10:03.35Nandinisomeone already imported an addon named 1000. LOL
10:03.55Marli.
10:03.57Nandinii think it's time to retire some of the old broken addons to tags
10:04.05MarliIndeed
10:04.20Nandinibut i'm not a good judge of what's old or broken
10:04.52Nandinii'm sure if i moved even ONE thing that hasn't been touched for a year, a dozen people will scream bloody murder on the forums that they're not able to "update" it using WAU anymore
10:05.34MarliWell its not just an updater is it, its a database
10:06.20Nandiniyes but usually after time, information that is no longer relevant in a database is archived
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10:07.16Nandinii especially like the addons that have in their description "BROKEN" or "DOES NOT WORK"
10:07.54MarliMaybe a heading for broken addons, that defaults to the bottom of the updater
10:08.11MarliThey arent exactly taking up huge amounts of space so its no big deal to leave em
10:08.20orionshockMarli: easy - set catagorie to Borked
10:08.37Marli:<
10:08.56charonNandini: linkified your tables with some clever regex search and replace, please check i didn't break anything obvious
10:10.20Nandiniwow thank you charon, i just saw that!!!
10:10.31Nandinionly Kil'jaeden didn't work
10:10.37Nandinii'll see if there really is a page for it
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10:12.13CIA-1203ackis * r51135 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
10:12.13CIA-12AckisRecipeList:
10:12.13CIA-12- Fixed bug where beast skills were counted twice
10:12.27charonnp, it certainly made the route to CoT more interesting ;)
10:13.19Nandiniahh, the wiki page for Kil'jaeden is Kil'Jaeden (which is wrong) but I changed the link to the "wrong" spelling and it works
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10:14.43Nandiniit's listed as Kil'Jaden on the blizzard website, but in-game, it is Kil'jaeden
10:14.47Fisker-lol
10:14.56Nandiniand stupid wiki is case-sensitive
10:15.02Fisker-(!) Network Adapter *SHIT threw away my driver cd*
10:15.21Fisker-Then i just went into the driver and upgraded it with the first network card on the list
10:15.23Fisker-and it worked
10:15.23Fisker-:D
10:15.31Nandinihooray!
10:15.45Nandinithank you again charon, that saved me a lot of time :)
10:17.00charonNandini: np really... take a spoonful of regexes, add some editor macros, and stir
10:17.20charon(i sometimes wonder if i run emacs, or emacs runs me)
10:17.37CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r575 10/trunk/TourGuide/StatusFrame.lua: TourGuide - Tweak to delayed update on turnin, might fix mikma's issues in his head.
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10:19.03Grummm do i understand it correctly, is tourguide like a 'questguide' ingame?
10:19.14Grumwhich basicly says: zomg go there for XP!
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10:19.49Fisker-sag_ich_nicht i just owned
10:20.08Fisker-Had just reinstalled Windows, and my network card didn't have a driver, and i didn't have a driver cd :o
10:20.21Fisker-Then i just went into the driver properties and added a random network card and it worked :D
10:20.34orionshocklol
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10:32.01orionshockgiven that i know the name of a frame - how does one set it's frame strata?
10:33.01Finframe:SetStrata
10:33.11Fineg frame:SetStrata('DIALOG')
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10:35.33orionshock.. nope not working
10:35.42CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r576 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (4 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - Yet more ally guide tweaks
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10:35.53Finthat sounds like an accusation
10:36.10Fin~api
10:36.32Finer
10:36.42Finwowwiki API_SetStrata
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10:36.58Finand, short cut for the bot, I mean
10:38.58CIA-1203oridan * r51136 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
10:38.58CIA-12SpellReminder:
10:38.58CIA-12- made spell detection optional (disabled by default)
10:38.58CIA-12- fixed removal of spells in dropdown
10:38.58CIA-12- fixed growup and anchor positions
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10:39.54omega_is it possible to detect the rotation of the character? like what direction is one facing?
10:39.59lolinternet[12:19] <Fisker-> sag_ich_nicht i just owned <--lame
10:40.09Fisker-YES
10:40.12Fisker-pedobear seal of approval
10:40.17lolinternetwhat
10:40.18lolinternetno
10:40.20lolinternetpervert
10:40.25Fisker-no not me
10:40.42Fisker-Someone bought a mobile with pictures of girls under the age of 15
10:40.49lolinternetlol
10:41.15Fisker-For some reason it wasn't illegal for the newspaper to bring the pictures apparently
10:42.50Chompersi hope it made its way to 4chan Fisker-
10:43.15lolinternetAntiarc: xionglingfeng also commited to LibParser-4.0 you sure he didn't break anything there? :P
10:43.26lolinternetsame for LibRockConfig :P
10:43.47Fisker-nuff said, i'm buying all my phones from that company from now on
10:46.05lolinternetmhm
10:46.21lolinternetdoes LibDogTag-2.0 have a comp. layer for 1.0?
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10:48.02lolinternet[12:39] <omega_> is it possible to detect the rotation of the character? like what direction is one facing? <--nope!
10:48.30lolinternetno wait
10:48.37lolinternetthat's a lie
10:48.42lolinternetfacing should be possible to detect
10:48.45lolinternet><
10:48.49lolinterneti dunno anymore
10:48.57lolinternetlook at the code of cartographer_waypoints
10:49.01lolinternetyou should get an answer there
10:49.26cncfanaticsits possible
10:49.34cncfanaticseven if you'd use the direction of the minimap arrow, its possible
10:49.40cncfanaticsthe minimap arrow turns around so
10:49.50lolinternetyeah that's what i figured waypoints would be using
10:50.32omega_mhm
10:50.49omega_what I want to do is show a line on the worldmap of where I would end up if I keep going straight ahead
10:51.01omega_but perhaps waypoints does what I want
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10:51.25Trell_waypoints wont draw a line, but it has an arrow
10:51.37Trell_that you can follow
10:51.39Trell_if that makes sense
10:51.44omega_as long as it can tell me if I am flying in the right direction, that is good enough :)
10:51.50Trell_yes, it does that ;)
10:52.05Trell_lightheaded+waypoints=win
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10:52.56Arrowmasterhttp://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2645652
10:53.03Arrowmasterwow just wow......
10:53.08omega_its only in branches, not trunk?
10:53.11omega_waypoints that is
10:54.18Chompersi luled at that arrow
10:54.40Trell_it never fails to make me laugh at the number of people that bitch about not having premades.
10:54.54Trell_even though 2.2.3 is simple bugfixes on the ptr atm
10:55.02CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51137 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Core.lua Slashcommands.lua):
10:55.02CIA-12FlexBar2:
10:55.02CIA-12<PROTECTED>
10:55.02CIA-12<PROTECTED>
10:55.02CIA-12<PROTECTED>
10:55.13Chompersthen i looked at the thread about the guy making rockets for his rc helicopter
10:55.35Arrowmasteri say fuck premades and just give me a vendor with every lvl 70 epic on it
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10:56.15Trell_"If any1 says that i should get a lvl 70, just get this, i have a LIFE!"
10:57.12Arrowmasterunfortuently thats the perfect customer
10:57.21Arrowmasterthey pay the monthly fee but dont use it very much
10:57.52Arrowmasterand wont run out of stuff to do causing them to stop paying the monthly fee
10:57.55`-FISKER_Q\not for chinese it isn't
10:58.01Arrowmastertrue
10:58.05Arrowmasterwhich reminds me
10:58.09`-FISKER_Q\oh and i won't stop paying either
10:58.11Trell_but premades...meh
10:58.13`-FISKER_Q\i'll pay to the day i die
10:58.20`-FISKER_Q\when WoW shuts down i'll send them 13€ monthly
10:58.22omega_Trell_: is it the one in branches/ your talking about? cartographer_waypoints
10:58.37Trell_omega_ - I just use WAU...branches, trunks, doesn't matter to me
10:58.45Trell_thats WAY too technical for me
10:59.16CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r577 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/12_17_Darkshore.lua: TourGuide: small fixes, mostly C -> T in some quests
10:59.19`-FISKER_Q\it's reboot tiem
10:59.23`-FISKER_Q\bai
10:59.31Arrowmasterits annoying when people keep making up figures for how much money blizzard makes every month from the 9 mil or so customers since like less than 2 mil are on the US realm, and probably about the same on EU, leaving >50% on the aisan realms
11:00.03Trell_well, whatever, I'm sure they are still making lots of money
11:00.40Trell_how long till TourGuide can be tested?  or can I grab from svn already?
11:00.45Trell_looks quite..interesting
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11:03.00cladhaireTrell_: Blizzard ~= Vivendi
11:03.05cladhairewhen people learn this, we will all be better off
11:03.16orionshockTrell_: it's prolly stable as is...
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11:03.52Fisker-:)
11:03.53Fisker-hai
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11:05.37Trell_orionshock; it isn't on dev.wowace, nor wau
11:05.41Trell_i guess it's on svn?
11:05.47Trell_for which you need an account :'(
11:05.58lolinternetno
11:06.00lolinternetyou don't
11:06.02lolinternetlurk the fuck more
11:06.39orionshockit's on tek's svn on google
11:06.47lolinternetwait
11:06.59lolinternetwhy isn't it on svn?
11:07.43cladhaire*sigh*
11:07.48cladhaireits on googlecode
11:07.49Trell_got it thanks; tekkubs gcode page
11:07.56cladhairewhere you don't under any circumstances need an account
11:08.04CIA-1203wessller * r51138 10autoedg/ (AutoEDG.toc Core.lua):
11:08.04CIA-12autoedg:
11:08.04CIA-12- added Autogratz and emote, still in Beta though
11:08.08cladhaireits just another svn, you canc heck out from.
11:08.25TekkubTG is very usable, it's mostly filling out guide data at this point
11:09.06Tekkubneed some usablitily shit, like scrollbars, but it's 100% useable
11:10.09cncfanaticsbtw Tekkub, thanks for tweaking the flexbar wiki page , again :)
11:10.25Tekkub:P I ain't touching the slash command one
11:10.35Tekkubbut it could use some formatting love
11:10.43sbTekkub: mhh - useful for 56+? :p
11:11.09sag_ich_nichtwhat's tourguide anyway? :X
11:11.11cncfanaticsTekkub, how would u format it ? I'm not a layout guy :p
11:11.11Tekkubsb... got blade's edge and like 2/3 of netherstorm, alliance
11:11.30sbmhh horde :o
11:11.32Tekkubuh....
11:11.39orionshockTekkub: is all the data custom set or is there a auto collect mode?
11:12.13Tekkubfor TG? hand written, but fairly easy to do from Kopp's/Joana's guides
11:12.20orionshockkk
11:12.33cncfanaticsTekkub, making an ingame lvl'ing guide or ?
11:12.34Tekkubcnc, like the "getting started" section really
11:12.57Tekkubcommands in <code> blocks, descriptions a single indent from tha
11:13.09Tekkuband yes, TourGuide
11:13.28TekkubOrion... http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_to_create_TourGuide_data_files
11:14.25orionshockic
11:14.44cncfanaticsTekkub, thats gonna be a lot of work to change -.-
11:14.48cncfanatics(my slashcommand ref that is)
11:14.59Tekkubwhich is why I ain't touchin it
11:15.06sag_ich_nichtLOL
11:15.08cncfanaticshehe
11:15.16sag_ich_nichti think blizzard might have a bug in their item cache system
11:15.20Tekkubhonestly, I don't like full blown slash lists on the wiki...
11:15.22Tekkubbut that's me
11:15.23sag_ich_nichta very very very very cheap one.
11:15.34cncfanaticsTekkub, why not ?
11:15.47Tekkubflex's always been very slash-centric, and that's kinda it's downfall
11:15.55Tekkubcause they're monolithic
11:16.04CIA-1203oridan * r51139 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
11:16.04CIA-12SpellReminder:
11:16.04CIA-12- more efficient scanning of spells
11:16.05Tekkubanything with that big of a slash list needs a GUI
11:16.21sag_ich_nichti think blizzard item cache may be limited to 65535 items. :X
11:16.26Tekkubslashies should be short and to the point, or at least well-documented IN GAME
11:16.31cncfanaticsTekkub, I don't have time to write a gui, if I had I would, but maintaining flex already takes all my time
11:16.53Tekkubwell if you're using AceConsole, you have options for getting a GUI
11:17.04Tekkubif you're making your own handler, yea you're screwed :)
11:17.11cncfanaticsdo you seriously think I'm using aceconsole for my type of comms ? :p
11:17.14cncfanaticsAceconsole can't do that
11:17.19Tekkubheh
11:17.23Tekkubso you're screwed :)
11:17.37cncfanaticswould have to write one, which I REALLY don't have tipe for
11:17.39cncfanaticss/tipe/time/
11:17.54TekkubI'm bias, I know.... I used to have an amazingly complex FB setup
11:18.11cncfanaticsur using it ? :o
11:18.15Tekkubnow I have two sipmle bars with popouts that provide access to all 120 IDs
11:18.17cncfanaticsFB2 I mean
11:18.25Tekkubnope, simplicity
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11:18.36TekkubI used to spend days just tweaking FB
11:18.42cncfanaticssame here heh
11:18.50orionshockcncfanatics: wheren't you going to port it over to rock?
11:18.50Tekkubconditionally shown buttons... blah blah blah
11:18.55cncfanaticsdamn blizzard for limitting what I could do
11:19.01cncfanaticsorionshock, its been rock since, months
11:19.10Tekkubwhole goal was minimalism but accessablitiy to everything...
11:19.16cncfanaticssame here
11:19.21Tekkubnow, well I have all 120 avail on hover, that's all I need
11:19.32cncfanaticsdon't need more then 120 I guess ? :p
11:19.37Tekkubnope
11:19.41Tekkubwhy would I
11:19.41cncfanaticshehe
11:19.44orionshocksomething wrong with rocks' config gui?
11:19.46cncfanaticsdunno, because you can ? :p
11:19.52cncfanaticsorionshock, I don't have time to code one
11:19.53TekkubI don't think that combined I even have 120 spells and macros
11:19.56orionshockor is it simply the time to reOrder the options table to code it
11:20.09cncfanaticsorionshock, I don't have an options table, thats the point
11:20.17cncfanaticsnever had
11:20.28orionshockwhat's it use now / did?
11:20.54Tekkubsitting an the ram riding guy is fun...
11:20.57cncfanaticsslashcommands now
11:21.05cncfanaticsgui is poof till someone with time codes one
11:21.10Tekkubevery min... *snap snap whum snap*
11:21.16cncfanaticsTekkub, fb has some nice candy that no other AB addon provides though
11:21.50Tekkubcandy is overboard :P
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11:22.04cncfanaticsdepends, its useful candy
11:22.08Tekkubseriously, I have two actionbars, the "main" and a side one, that's it
11:22.16cncfanaticsclass ?
11:22.21Tekkuball of them
11:22.34cncfanaticswell, for say a warlock, ur a minimalist right ?
11:22.49Tekkubhave a warlock, yes
11:23.00cncfanaticswhat about a bar with all ur dots, timers on how long the dots have left and the buttons lighting red as long as the dot is on the target
11:23.31Tekkubone macro that casts my dots in order, direct spell buttons on the popout
11:23.37cncfanatics:o fancy
11:23.40cncfanatics:p
11:23.41Tekkubanother mod manages timers, I don't want that on my bar
11:24.07cncfanaticsI'd prefer them on my bar personaly,thats where I look most of the time for cooldowns anyway
11:24.10MarliId rather be able to choose what I cast based on the situation
11:24.27Tekkubthat's what the popout is for
11:24.28Dustwhisperi like having cooldowns popup on middle of screen like jims cooldown pulse (which hasnt been updated since january)
11:24.28orionshocklol Marli they borked that patches ago
11:24.38MarliWhat?
11:24.41Dustwhisperand i like having debufftimers on my target/castbar like fire vulnerability
11:24.48Tekkubthe macro is my keybound thing, I can quickly swap if needed, or click the popout buttons
11:24.57orionshockMarli: sorry read that wrong
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11:25.29Fisker-that's more liek it
11:25.31Marlilolz
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11:26.00cncfanaticsTekkub, using ur own coded actionbars ?
11:26.06TekkubI keep mutually exclusive things on the popouts, like all my hunter traps are on one butt'ns popout...
11:26.09Tekkubyes
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11:26.19cncfanaticsthought so, no AB mod around that can do that correctly
11:26.24Tekkubwhen I need a diff trap, just swap the action on the button with a popout one
11:26.30sag_ich_nichtmhm
11:26.46sag_ich_nichtif not LLID then LLID=25 end LLQ=0 while (LLQ<200 and LLID<36000) do if not GetItemInfo(LLID) then GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:"..LLID) LLQ=LLQ+1 end LLID=LLID+1 end DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Scanned up to itemID: "..LLID)
11:26.47Tekkubmine works fine :P
11:27.42cncfanaticsTekkub, FB will too, soon I hope
11:27.47sag_ich_nichtwtb that in a while loop that pauses every 5 seconds
11:28.00Tekkubit's just onenter secure drivers
11:28.12Tekkubthey're a PITA to figure out, but I got em working finally
11:28.24cncfanaticsTekkub, got to combine em with shapeshifts & target remaps too
11:28.33cncfanaticsand need them to be configurable with slashcommands too :)
11:28.37Tekkubno target remaps here
11:28.45cncfanaticsoptional in FB
11:28.47Tekkuband stances are in for everyone but rogues and warriors
11:28.50TekkubI don't melee :)
11:28.55cncfanaticsI need to rewrite my state code rly
11:29.06cncfanaticsthink i'll write a generalized thing where you can add in states
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11:29.19cncfanaticsand it'll then autogenerate statebutton attribute and a secure state driver
11:30.23the-golemTekkub: what about druids?
11:30.35orionshockarg... got somethign futzing with my bliz raid frames
11:30.35the-golem^^
11:30.35Tekkuband stances are in for everyone but rogues and warriors
11:30.54cncfanaticsI wrote generalized code for stances, way easyer
11:31.03Tekkubseriously, someone tell this guy why he shouldn't have even had to ask about me and druids
11:31.53orionshockbecause you hate druids, cuz you can
11:31.57cncfanaticsTekkub the droodlover ? :p
11:31.58orionshockcan't L2P them
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11:32.20Tekkub*sigh*
11:32.24Tekkub<--- is a furry
11:32.53dalhiaHi there, I could use some help identifying an addon: It creates a 'notes' button in my guild/raid pane, which opens another page with the button 'add note'. Any ideas? :)
11:32.55Tekkubfirst thing I ever rolled in beta was a druid named behr
11:33.05the-golemright
11:33.17dalhia(its keeping me from moving people in raids while in combat so I need to get rid of it :P)
11:33.24the-golemnext time i'll be sure to read your mind and hax ur wow account so i dont ask anything about druids
11:33.25the-golemugh
11:33.39[Ammo]Crazy666
11:33.44Tekkub:P everyone knows I'm the token furry here
11:33.47[Ammo]hmm
11:33.49Tekkublern2ace
11:33.57[Ammo]wrong channel
11:34.09the-golemobviously not
11:34.35the-golem%%
11:34.40the-golem^^ rather
11:34.50[dRaCo]dalhia: might be AuldLangSyne
11:34.58sag_ich_nichtmhm
11:35.12sag_ich_nichthow do you pause for n time in lua? :X
11:35.14dalhiaHmm, been using it for months though, they added that button in some recent version?
11:35.23cncfanaticssag_ich_nicht, OnUpdate
11:35.30dalhiaSec, I'll check turning it off
11:35.38[dRaCo]dunno, just guessing from what you described. try disabling it and see if it works
11:35.38cncfanaticsu can use ace to schedule something in 5secs, easyest
11:36.37cncfanaticsthere's noone around that feels writing a big gui is there ? :p
11:36.43dalhiameh, thanks :) Shouldv tried that before comming here, apologies.
11:37.54Diaohm
11:37.56Diaoi have the same problem
11:37.58Diaolol
11:38.02sag_ich_nichtcncfanatics: no, i need a while loop that goes while (LLID<36000) do pause("5") restofthecodehere end
11:38.05DiaoALS is awesome though :(
11:38.24siIentiumsag_ich_nicht: interesting, it reminds me of my own macro, which is /script local g=GameTooltip; local i=0; itemcounter=itemcounter or 1; for i=itemcounter,itemcounter+1000,1 do g:SetHyperlink("item:"..i..":0:0:0:0:0:0:0");g:Show();g:Hide();end; itemcounter=itemcounter+1000
11:38.42cncfanaticssag_ich_nicht, not possible
11:38.53cncfanaticsu can't pause in lua
11:38.57Marli...or is it
11:39.00sag_ich_nichtcncfanatics what the fuck.
11:39.03sag_ich_nichtthat's retarded
11:39.15sag_ich_nichtthere's no idle for n function?
11:39.16siIentiumcan you call delayed functions?
11:39.28siIentiumI think ItemSync does it somehow
11:39.48MarliCant be that hard to spoof a pause :D
11:39.54CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r578 10/trunk/TourGuide/QuestTracking.lua: TourGuide - Once again, possible fix to status frame updating issues.... I FUCKING HATE CHAIN-TURNIN QUESTS
11:39.56sag_ich_nichtsiIentium: what does your macro do exactly? :X
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11:40.35siIentiumsag_ich_nicht: every time I click it, it scans the next 1000 item IDs
11:40.41sag_ich_nichtyeah
11:40.42sag_ich_nichtthat sucks
11:40.46siIentiumaltho you get DCed once you get over 35k or so
11:40.47sag_ich_nichti wanna automate the scan.
11:40.52sag_ich_nicht36k
11:41.06siIentiumI know, but I'm too lazy to convert it to a real addon
11:41.21cncfanaticssag_ich_nicht
11:41.22cncfanaticsu can do that
11:41.36cncfanaticsregister an OnUpdate script, each update u do 1k scans
11:41.41cncfanaticsthe next OnUpdate, u do the next 1k ones
11:41.41sag_ich_nichtit needs a pause, cncfanatics, if you query too fast the server DCs you
11:41.44cncfanaticsand so forth till ur done
11:41.49cncfanaticsOnUpdate can be used as pause
11:41.54sag_ich_nichto rly
11:41.57cncfanaticsya rly
11:42.01cncfanaticswhat u think all timer libs use ?
11:42.02siIentiumI tried my macro with steps of 2k items each, I got DCed
11:42.45sag_ich_nichtmine has 500 steps, but i can't spam it because DC
11:42.56sag_ich_nichtand waiting/clicking takes forever
11:43.24siIentiumI usually click it every now and then on my AH char, while I wait to be able to send the next AH search query
11:43.42sag_ich_nichtheh
11:43.54sag_ich_nichtyou're doing it wrong, siIentium
11:43.59sag_ich_nichtstep 1: scan with auctioneer
11:44.10sag_ich_nichtstep 2: use auctioneers database to do all your searches with no delay
11:44.14sag_ich_nichtstep 3: ???
11:44.16sag_ich_nichtstep 4: profit!
11:44.34siIentiumI do use auctioneer (adv), but it seems the appraiser doesnt always show the current available auctions, so I wanna double check
11:44.51Trell_silentium, I had that problem too
11:44.52sag_ich_nichtdon't use AA alone
11:44.55Trell_click the refresh button
11:44.59sag_ich_nichtuse 4 and 5 :X
11:45.06Trell_bottom right of appraiser when you want to post an auction
11:45.07siIentiumsometimes it doesnt show the current ones, sometimes it shows auctions that have run out hours ago
11:45.15Trell_it will, UNLESS you click the refresh button
11:45.28Trell_it'll show the ones from your last scan, until such time as you refresh it
11:45.33siIentiummeh, silly unintuitive junk
11:45.44sag_ich_nichtwhich is the same as a AH search query, only for all pages containing the item
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11:46.15siIentiumyeah, but sometimes I do search for an item, it says it has updated the auc data, and the appraiser still shows outdated data
11:46.31orionshockdoes BW pick up on DBM bars?
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11:47.37Trell_doing a search wont workl
11:47.46Trell_s/workl/work/
11:47.54siIentiumwell, and even when using the update button, I guess it sends search queries in the background which are on a timer, so I have time to click my item scan macro again
11:47.54Trell_you need to actually hit the refresh button
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11:48.38siIentiumTrell_: funnily sometimes, but not always, a manual search does update the data shown in the appraiser tab
11:48.54Trell_bear in mind its still in alpha/gamma
11:48.59Trell_and you're using it at your own risk
11:49.00siIentiumwell, that's the thing with using beta software I guess
11:49.05siIentiumI know, I dont blame them
11:49.09Trell_any problems, best to report them in #norganna
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11:53.21PolarinaTekkub: Yes, it does sucks. Especially if you get hearthstoned to Shadowglem. :P
11:53.23lolinternet<OnUpdate> MyAddon_OnUpdate(arg1); </OnUpdate>
11:53.28lolinternetwtb that with .xml bullshit
11:53.32lolinternet*without
11:53.48PolarinaWhy are you using globals?
11:54.02lolinternetwho says i am ><
11:54.13Polarinaarg1 is a global.
11:54.20the-golemDolanaar*
11:54.26lolinterneti just quoted http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_OnUpdate_Correctly
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11:54.46lolinternetand i said i DON'T want the .xml part because intend to just stick it into luaslinger to do what i want :P
11:54.55PolarinaThat correctly is not supposed to be there.
11:55.06lolinternetPolarina it's a wiki
11:55.11lolinternetyou know how wikis work
11:55.13lolinternetRIGHT?
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11:55.32PolarinaYes.
11:55.33orionshockOpera = Kite tin man after 90%, it helps a fk loat
11:55.38orionshock*Opera = Kite tin man after 90%, it helps a fk lot
11:55.44[dRaCo]you edit something and then someone comes and deletes your hard work?
11:55.59cncfanaticslolinternet, yes ?
11:56.01lolinternetlol history function
11:56.20Xinhuan[2007/10/06 15:14:27-3033-x58852]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Ace2' tried to call the protected function 'AMF:SetWidth()'.
11:56.28Xinhuanwhoa 58k times
11:56.30lolinternetcncfanatics: i took a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_OnUpdate_Correctly but that requires .xml use, and i don't think that is neccesairy, is it? :X
11:56.46lolinternetXinhuan: guess you have a taint problem? :O
11:56.59Xinhuanthat is just 58k out of 380k errors
11:57.10Xinhuanand arenamaster is the cause of it ;p
11:57.15lolinternetstop using it
11:57.15Polarinalolinternet: No, it is not nessecary. And by all means, one shuldn't EVER use arg1 in OnUpdate.
11:57.19lolinternetProximo > arenamaster :X
11:57.22cncfanaticslolinternet, just create ur own frame
11:57.25Xinhuanyeah but lazy to update
11:57.28lolinterneti don't need a frame
11:57.29lolinternetgeez
11:57.33lolinternet><
11:57.36cncfanaticsyou do ?
11:57.40lolinterneto rly
11:57.47lolinternetwhy is that
11:58.25siIentiummy uneducated guess tells me you need a frame so something gets updated and you can catch the onUpdate trigger
11:58.47siIentiumbut I'm just an advanced user, not an addon dev
11:59.57lolinternetif this is true, it proves that lua smells(once again) christ i'll just slap it into a function and schedule a call to it every 5 seconds with chronos -_-
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12:02.52siIentiumhm, it seems itemsync uses metrognome for delayed function calls
12:03.08Marliok lets just use all the information wow sends us, and port that into a different program, which is a clone of wow, and we send all the correct data back, but we can edit the program however we like
12:03.14Marliit wouldnt take much work amirite
12:03.35lolinternetMarli so you want a bot, huh?
12:03.45lolinternetCairenn someone's asking for the banhammer
12:03.45lolinternet:X
12:03.58Marliwtf are you on about
12:04.14lolinternetno U
12:04.25lolinternet(this, kids, is how you use "no U" properly)
12:04.33siIentiumit really sounds like violating the ToS
12:04.40Polarinahttp://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_OnUpdate_Correctly  should now use local variables.
12:04.53Marliwouldnt have to use lua though siIentium :>
12:05.25lolinternetthat's great Polarina.
12:05.45Polarinalolinternet: Thanks.
12:06.56siIentiumhm, Metrognome is described as "OnUpdate manager", is its use deprecated or why do you want to write your own implementation?
12:07.49siIentiumself.gnome:Register("ItemSyncOptimize_Invalid", Optimize_InvalidChkDone , 13) --13 seconds <- is what itemsync uses for validation scans
12:09.26lolinternetmhm
12:09.30lolinternetthat wasn't such a good idea.
12:10.36Eggisilentium: AceEvent can do that
12:10.55lolinternethttp://pastey.net/74937-3pl8 that wasn't such a good idea.
12:11.15ag`any  ace3 dev here?
12:11.31siIentiumEggi: even better then, I just found it while digging through the ItemSync code
12:11.33lolinternetsiIentium: metrognome is deprecated, AceEvent has the functionality of it integrated
12:12.23akunoanyone recommend an addon for moving frames around, like character / talent / profession windows?
12:14.53NeeblerMoveIt
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12:15.31Trell_mmm <3 tourguide
12:15.34Trell_quite sexy
12:16.37Fisker-i find that discriminating towards tourguides
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12:21.30orionshockhttp://www.pastey.net/74938
12:21.36orionshock<PROTECTED>
12:22.26lolinternetlol
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12:29.45ag`nevcairiel: you here?
12:30.20Fisker-he's never here :(
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12:30.33italiafutzihallo kann mir jemand helfen ich such ein addon
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12:30.41Fisker-sehr gut!
12:30.47Stan2lol
12:30.52Stan2italiafutzi: was suchste denn?
12:30.53Fisker-But we need you to talk english instead
12:31.07Gagorian-Ja sauerkraut ist verboten
12:31.15[dRaCo]lol
12:31.18Stan2lol Gagorian
12:31.29italiafutziwenn ich mit der maus über meine dots fahre soll es mir anzeigen wieviel dmg die machen bevor ich draufklick
12:31.46Megalondrdamage
12:31.50Stan2jo
12:31.55Megalonis da wohl was meinst
12:32.14italiafutzibzw es zeigt es immer ganz klein neben dem icon an
12:32.19italiafutziok danke werds testen :)
12:32.33lolinternet...
12:32.39Fisker-QW TIEM
12:32.54italiafutzigreetz von Gul´Dan :P
12:32.54[dRaCo]weird. why are germans the only ones who can't behave? :/
12:33.00sag_ich_nicht~lart italiafutzi
12:33.00purlfollow's italiafutzi with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION
12:33.05sag_ich_nichthi
12:33.07sag_ich_nichthorde?
12:33.08sag_ich_nicht:X
12:33.16italiafutzijap
12:33.20sag_ich_nichtcharname?
12:33.35italiafutzi70er WL Roandra
12:33.42sag_ich_nichtheh
12:33.49sag_ich_nichti'll make sure to gank you each time i see you then. :X
12:33.51orionshockquestion, how do you set a frame to always follow the mouse?
12:34.01Stan2sag_ich_nicht: too much Jakob Bienenhalm?
12:34.06italiafutziwe´ll see ^^
12:34.07orionshockFisker-:
12:34.12orionshockFisker-: PING
12:34.16sag_ich_nichtitaliafutzi: stop. using. the. fucking. accent. sign.
12:34.17Fisker-PONG!
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12:34.22sag_ich_nichthold SHIFT and press #
12:34.24sag_ich_nichtchrist
12:34.29orionshockwhat did you want this ticketFu to do?
12:34.35sag_ich_nichtlern2type
12:34.42Fisker-Show the current state of gm tickets
12:34.42[dRaCo]orionshock: guess you've gotta grab the coords of the mouse and move the frame there... afaik there's no way to hook something to the mouse directly
12:34.50sag_ich_nichtactually
12:34.51sag_ich_nichtthere is
12:34.59orionshockw/o setting it to a tooltip
12:35.00sag_ich_nichtsince there are a lot of bugs that can make a frame stuck to the mouse
12:35.01sag_ich_nicht:X
12:35.03Fisker-perhaps show a the time elapsed since you made a ticket
12:35.09italiafutziso on  see ya ingame  sag_ich_nicht  then i will gank you! kiss
12:35.16Fisker-and then click it to open gm-frame or survey/ticket edit frame
12:35.20sag_ich_nichtheh
12:35.24Fisker-all depending on which state it is in
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12:37.35italiafutzithx for help bye
12:38.06Stan2sag_ich_nicht: do you know "Jockel der Gartenteichspringbrunnen"?
12:39.32sag_ich_nichtwhat
12:39.33sag_ich_nichtno.
12:40.08Stan2:(
12:42.37Zarieldid saieto go emo ?
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12:46.06orionshockwell Fisker- u fked' sorry
12:48.07Fisker-k?
12:48.23ag`[Ammo]: ping!!
12:48.38[Ammo]pong
12:48.47[Ammo]wassup?
12:48.50Fisker-japang
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12:48.57ag`there seems to be something wrong with ["**"] in AceDB-3.0
12:49.05[Ammo]** does not exist
12:49.08[Ammo]if that's what you mean :P
12:49.10[Ammo]* does it all
12:49.22[Ammo]afaik
12:49.30ag`nah, ** is there I think
12:49.33ag`for siblings
12:49.46Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1152955641&sid=1 xD
12:49.49[Ammo]I thought we changed it so * handles it all
12:49.50[Ammo]even siblings
12:50.05[Ammo]but if you found a bug, write a testcase (commandline script) etc :)
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12:51.46Ominoushow is ace3 coming along?
12:51.59[Ammo]pretty good
12:52.42ag`AceGUI doesn't take a table yet right?
12:52.52[Ammo]and it never will
12:52.56[Ammo]that's part of the config libs
12:53.07ag`aha
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12:55.53cladhaire[Ammo]: ** still exists
12:56.02cladhaire[Ammo]: so says the code :P
12:56.10[Ammo]sorry
12:56.14cladhaireag`: What's the issue you're seeing?
12:56.16[Ammo]I thought we had a discussion on how * can handle it all
12:56.30[Ammo]but that might now have made it into code
12:56.30cladhaire[Ammo]: * handling it all would be rather nasty, to say the least
12:56.39cladhaire*shrug*
12:57.03[Ammo]ok
12:57.26[Ammo]I need to build some custom gui thing for my next test
12:57.49Ominouswhat is the difference between * and ** i never really understood it
12:58.12[Ammo]* default for all children, ** is default for all siblings where you can still set some fields on siblings
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13:00.01Ominousk
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13:04.03ag`[Ammo]: http://pastey.net/74939
13:04.42ag`this is my bug...
13:05.03ag`defaultvalue is returned when it should be sibling1value, for example
13:05.42[Ammo]clad is probably better at soolving it
13:05.47[Ammo]but I bet he readss it
13:05.51ag`cladhaire: you can take a look at it too then http://pastey.net/74939 :)
13:07.36ag`Also a question you might be able to answer, Ammo
13:07.45[Ammo]shoot
13:07.54ag`if I want to inject stuff into my defaults (from say, a module) - what do I have to do?
13:08.26ag`lets say I already inited my db with AceDB:New
13:08.31[Ammo]:RegisterDefaults on your db object
13:08.41[Ammo]afaik
13:08.59ag`so I should just change the defaults table, and then do :RegisterDefaults?
13:09.16[Ammo]I think so, but I haven't played with AceDB-3.0 a lot
13:09.23[Ammo]only last night tried it out for the first time
13:09.28[Ammo]read the source is my advice
13:09.36[Ammo]until we get the docs sorted
13:09.49ag`ok
13:09.50[Ammo]AceAddon-3.0 should be pretty much documented in the /docs folder of Ace3
13:09.58[Ammo]I haven't had time to do the rest
13:10.22ag`hopefully the ** bug will get fixed because I rely on them
13:10.29[Ammo]ofcourse it will
13:10.39ag`I've tried to do some stuff in Ace3 to day
13:10.52ag`works fine except from that issue I just ran into
13:12.14Ominousdo you have any idea of a time frame until beta>
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13:15.29[Ammo]Ominous: we had hopes for end of last month
13:15.48[Ammo]but the optional gui and config and stuff is being worked on still
13:16.03Ominous[Ammo]: ok, any new hopes?
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13:18.05[Ammo]shrug
13:18.06[Ammo]when it's done
13:19.43Ominousheh ok
13:20.36Speeddymoncharon: thx for finding and fixing that missing 'end' last night, i had to leave for work
13:20.58Speeddymonwho does the updates for WAU?
13:21.19Stan2Speeddymon: sylvanaar is the developer
13:21.39Speeddymonkk thx
13:22.13charonSpeeddymon: np, you broke one of my "can't live without" mods so i had enough of an incentive ;)
13:22.26Speeddymonhehe
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13:23.21Speeddymonsylvanaar: any way you could change the text color for updated items to something other than the same color as the background?  I liked it the old way, but a different color is fine too, just not grey on grey
13:23.39Speeddymoncharon: is all of the new functionality working so far?
13:24.12charonno idea, i haven't _sent_ any mail today... but opening mail with more than the minimum of clicks required sucks
13:24.38Speeddymonwhat you mean? nothing i did should have changed how many clicks it takes to open mail..
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13:25.35charonyeah but a syntax error meant the mod wouldn't load at all, thus it was back to the default UI where you have to click the mail, then move the mouse, then click the attachment, then move the mouse back to the next mail...
13:26.14Speeddymonoh u mean before you fixed it.. gotchya yea thats is annoying as hell
13:26.51Speeddymonfunny, i always thought it was auctioneer that let me right-click-on-the-mail-to-grab-attachments
13:27.16charonmaybe it does that too, i don't know, i don't run auctioneer
13:27.58Speeddymonheh well i use both, and got them both around the same time, so i just assumed..
13:28.16Speeddymoni didnt look at any other parts of the code last night except what i was working on
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13:29.46charonhave you taken over development? at first i wasn't sure i should commit since it's someone else's
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13:29.58CIA-1203celellach * r51140 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
13:29.58CIA-12AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
13:29.58CIA-12- Hyjal reordering
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13:30.27CIA-12AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
13:30.27CIA-12- Rare mounts update
13:32.12orionshockisn't there a IsEventRegistered in the GameAPI?
13:32.41orionshockor is that in a upcoming patch?
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13:34.09CIA-12- Loot update
13:35.06Speeddymoncharon: no not really, but since it has not been fixed since changes to mailing alts went in place, i figured i'd give it a shot
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13:35.49Speeddymonif i had more time i would, but managing cdt and stancesetsfu and simpleminimap is enough for me..
13:38.29CIA-1203ananhaid * r51143 10BigWigs/ (20 files in 4 dirs):
13:38.29CIA-12BigWigs:
13:38.29CIA-12- zhCN Update (Special Thanks:CWDG)
13:40.36CIA-1203speeddymon * r51144 10Postman/localization.lua:
13:40.36CIA-12Postman:
13:40.36CIA-12- Added deDE locale, thanks Farook
13:41.39Speeddymonorionshock: i thought there was.. but i dont think it was iseventregistered..
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13:42.20orionshockjust wondering...
13:42.29orionshockjust made my first event handler :D
13:42.31orionshockhttp://ace.pastey.net/74940
13:42.33Speeddymonyou're trying to check what all addons are registered for an event, or you trying to check what all events are registered for an addon, or just trying to check in your addon if an event is already registered
13:42.36orionshockand wanted to make sure it worked
13:43.52Speeddymon3rd, i see
13:44.00Speeddymonwhat addon is that for?
13:44.06CIA-1203oridan * r51145 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
13:44.06CIA-12SpellReminder:
13:44.06CIA-12- stop rescanning when changing pets.
13:45.36orionshockit's my Dailies addon, it picks them up and turns them in for me
13:46.01orionshockhttp://code.google.com/p/shock-wow/downloads/list
13:46.27orionshockor
13:46.28orionshockhttp://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys/core.lua
13:46.35orionshockis what it ended up as
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13:50.02Thumpsmorning all, anyone awake to answer a Q ?
13:50.55Dezzimalbawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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13:51.49siIentium~asktoask
13:51.50purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
13:52.04Thumpsfine fine...
13:52.14Mech0zAnyone know if the Antagonist auther has quit ?
13:52.31Thumpsif I wanted to go from having all my addons w/ externals to having them w/out externals, would I need to resinstall all of them?
13:52.35Mech0zOr just if anyone is trying to fix the position bug?
13:53.06CIA-1203speeddymon * r51146 10Postman/Postman.toc:
13:53.06CIA-12Postman:
13:53.06CIA-12- Bump TOC since we now support all of 2.2
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13:53.45orionshockThumps: it's a good idea to reinstall all of them
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13:54.07cncfanaticsanyone around with a feral druid that can help me test some stuff ?
13:54.15orionshockno
13:54.22orionshocki've loged out for the night :P
13:54.30Thumpsare there any advantages to having with or w/out externals?
13:54.42orionshock~5 sec off loading times
13:54.51orionshockyou only update things that have changed
13:54.56CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51147 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Slashcommands.lua:
13:54.56CIA-12FlexBar2
13:54.56CIA-12<PROTECTED>
13:54.59siIentiumThumps: if you use WAU then you'll need to tell it to reinstall them, otherwise it remembers to keem them as with externals
13:55.02Kuja__cncfanatics: so, whats up?
13:55.06orionshock~4mb less bandwidth used per update
13:55.33cncfanaticsKuja__, I need some testing done with Mutilation (bear), Mutilation (cat) and Faerie fire (feral)
13:55.47orionshockcncfanatics: mangle
13:55.51Thumpswell, loading times for me aren't that huge, and Im not concerned with b/w per update... what about memory usage while in game? different?
13:56.01orionshockno
13:56.06Thumpsk
13:56.17cncfanaticsmangle, mutilation was french name yea
13:56.19orionshockif your running with externals then mem useage will be reported all wrong
13:56.24Kuja__cncfanatics: and what exactly?
13:56.36cncfanaticsKuja__, I'd like you to download flexbar and tell me if those spells work on it
13:56.46ThumpsI see, thanks for the help
13:57.12Kuja__no problem, hold on
13:58.44orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9118.msg147127#msg147127
13:59.15cncfanaticsKuja__, if u need help setting some buttons up tell me
14:01.27cryogenhmm
14:03.47cryogenim going to need to rescan target debuffs on target change arent i
14:04.37Kuja__coffee time, bbiaf
14:04.38cncfanaticsofc u are
14:05.01cryogeneasily done!
14:05.06cncfanaticscryogen, at what lvl u get faerie fire (feral) ?
14:05.11cryogenits a talent
14:05.14cryogenlike level 30 i think
14:05.26cryogeni have a higher level druid alt that has it tho
14:05.27cryogenon another server
14:05.38cryogenlemmie finish coding the target change function and ill try it
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14:08.02Megalonright, lvl30 is the least you have to be to get fff
14:08.23orionshockpift.... where is nymbia when you need him to adjust something....
14:08.40cncfanaticscryogen, if u try make sure to get the latest rev
14:08.46cncfanaticsI added two handy debug funcs
14:08.52MalinzI'm using flexbar2 is there a way to have the # or reagents u have show on the buttons like the blizzard ones have? like for divine intervention and stuff
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14:09.47cryogenwhy cant lua just have short if statements like C does
14:09.55cryogenthen at least i wouldnt make this error EVERY SINGLE time i do an if p
14:09.56cryogen:p
14:10.42WobinYou'll learn =)
14:10.55Wobinor you can use an editor that sets up the if statements automatically =)
14:11.56baer_hmm...
14:12.10cryogenvim could probably do it for m
14:12.10cncfanaticsMalinz, yes there is
14:12.11cryogene
14:12.15cryogenbut i cant be arsed setting it up
14:12.16baer_can i keep "lurker below" within focus, while he's diving?
14:12.22cryogenbaer_: unlikely
14:12.27Wobindon't believe so
14:12.32baer_damnit :-}
14:12.38cryogenits like those annoying ghosts in kara
14:12.40cryogenthat disappear
14:12.42Malinzhow could do that?
14:13.49WobinDo they disappear?
14:13.54WobinOr just go invis
14:14.13cryogenthey disappear enough to make you lose your focus target
14:14.13cryogen:/
14:14.24baer_yep, i guessed so :-/
14:14.37WobinI know we just cast detect lesser invis to target them
14:14.53Wobinbut we could be talking about different ghosts =P
14:15.26cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
14:15.47baer_we are talking about lurker now. :-D
14:16.10cryogenhmm
14:16.21cryogenim going to have to do a suicidal mob pull to test this code
14:16.30cryogenim gonna have to moonfire two targets and change between them :p
14:16.38cncfanaticslol
14:17.08cncfanaticswhen ur done there plx log ur druid with faerie fire (feral)
14:17.14cryogenye i;ll do that first
14:17.20cryogenjust updating with wau
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14:17.37baer_what was the dogtag for remaing %HP ?
14:17.54orionshockdee dee
14:18.03orionshockanyone play in kr or tw locale
14:18.20Malinzcan that only applied to one of the modifiers like only show if ctrl modifier pushed?
14:18.56orionshocknmd, i'd need proper UTF-8 encoding of the words anywayse
14:19.24baer_orionshock: for what words?
14:19.31orionshockclasses
14:20.04orionshockhad a tw translator ask if i could port tattle over to the koren and tiwan realms
14:21.11cryogencncfanatics: works fine
14:21.14cryogenrank1 and rank2
14:21.30cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
14:21.30cryogenit doesnt fade out when i shouldnt eb able to use it, but im not sure any other abilty does on fb buttons
14:21.31cncfanaticsdo that
14:21.59cryogenFaerie Fire (Feral) (Rank1)
14:22.24cryogenand i just tried to change it to rank2 and got that error again
14:22.24cryogenMessage: ..\AddOns\FlexBar2_Action\Action.lua line 213:
14:22.25cryogen<PROTECTED>
14:22.48cryogenif i have rank2 on the button it returns: Faerie Fire (Feral) ()
14:23.01cryogene~wau
14:23.02cryogen~wau
14:23.03purl[wau] WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside.
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14:24.48cncfanaticsweirdish cryogen
14:24.51cncfanaticslemme check that
14:24.55cncfanaticsfirst lemme finish this Q :)
14:24.59cryogeni cant reliably reproduce it btw
14:25.06cryogenit just happens sometimes when i dag abilities around
14:25.12cryogens/dag/drag/
14:26.43Malinzcncfanatics : can that only applied to one of the modifiers like only show if ctrl modifier pushed? for that item counts
14:28.16cncfanaticsMalinz, nope :(
14:28.39Malinzoww ok
14:31.34baer_ok, got something :)
14:32.36Malinzis posible in future?
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14:33.39tlundis there a "bankmod" based on ace? one that replaces the default bank frame and keeps stuff sorted for you automatically?
14:33.56cncfanaticsMalinz, yea
14:34.00Kuja__im unable to drag mangle (cat) into a button
14:34.17Hjaltetlund, you could try baggins. it is a "virtual" bagmod though.
14:34.27baer_http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4894/wowscrnshot100607163211ps0.jpg
14:34.30Kuja__posting debug info to pasty now, im getting no "normal" error here
14:34.32tlundHjalte: does it do both the bags and the bank?
14:34.53Hjaltetlund, yes, but i guess you can only use it for bank if thats what you are after.
14:35.45Kuja__cncfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/74944
14:37.40cncfanaticsKuja__, doesn't work eh ?
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14:39.53Kuja__yeah..
14:40.34CIA-1203hyperactiveChipmunk * r51148 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/FuBar_BattlegroundFu.toc:
14:40.34CIA-12FuBar_BattlegroundFu:
14:40.34CIA-12- toc bump
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14:41.18Ominoushow do you move the gladiator window?
14:42.30CIA-1203shadmar * r51149 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots.toc: GridStatusHots : Updated .toc, no changes
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14:43.35cncfanaticsOMG
14:43.36cncfanaticsI GET IT
14:43.43cncfanaticsKuja__, whats Rank in german ?
14:44.01charoncncfanatics: Rang
14:44.08StanzillaRang
14:44.28cncfanaticsI see, I search for Rank
14:44.39cncfanaticsblizzard prolly keeps that string localized somewhere
14:46.07CIA-1203hyperactiveChipmunk * r51150 10/tags/FuBar_BattlegroundFu/:
14:46.07CIA-12FuBar_BattlegroundFu: (TAG)
14:46.07CIA-12- making tag dir
14:46.32CIA-1203hyperactiveChipmunk 072.0 * r51151 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/:
14:46.32CIA-12FuBar_BattlegroundFu: (TAG)
14:46.32CIA-12- tagging 2.0 for formal release
14:48.43Ominouswhat does it do hyperChipmunk ?
14:49.48hyperChipmunkhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4722
14:49.59cncfanaticsKuja__, cheers
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15:05.38Reclusedoes that battlegroundfu save honor totals? honorfu doesn't work for me these days
15:06.05hyperChipmunkit's a battlegrounds addon
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15:07.03nalla2can anyone contrib to fubar corkFu? im sick of changing everytime the path to the libs in the .toc file (babble-spell und babble-class are broken)... would be realy nice
15:08.29Recluseah, was just wondering. been shopping for an honor addon for a while now off and on
15:08.54Reclusehonorfu resets its tally at every honor gain for some reason lol
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15:22.39CIA-1203hyperactiveChipmunk * r51152 10/tags/ (BulkMail2/ BulkMail2Inbox/):
15:22.39CIA-12BulkMail2[Inbox]: (TAGS)
15:22.39CIA-12- making tag directories for BulkMail2 and BulkMail2Inbox
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15:26.41charon_____god this sucks... what's wrong with my uplink :(
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15:31.22TinyboomAnduinLothar: ping
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15:45.05cncfanaticsl2ghost charon
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15:45.56charoncncfanatics: it's more of a l2findyourobscuretcpproblems issue :(
15:46.04cncfanaticswhere in framexml is stuff localized ? need to find the traductad version of Rank for the probleme
15:46.08hypetechany way to get rid of the ammo bag in baggins?
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15:48.13charonSpeeddymon: [2007/10/06 17:30:41-469-x5]: Postman-2.0.51134\Postman.lua:513: bad argument #1 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)
15:48.21charonSpeeddymon: [2007/10/06 17:30:41-469-x1]: Postman-2.0.51134\Postman.lua:549: bad argument #1 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)
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15:48.24charon(note, different line numbers)
15:49.32Finhttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/
15:50.30Pkekyoanyone here got experience with buying games on Steam?
15:50.38CIA-1203rophy 07Rophy * r51153 10ParserLib/LibStubCore/: ParserLib: creating branch folder.
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15:51.16ag`cladhaire: ping
15:51.27cladhairehai
15:51.44ag`I have the bug in a pastey for you if you didn't get it before http://pastey.net/74945
15:51.57ag`I could also submit one to jura if you'd rather want it that way
15:52.33cladhaireoh its' just overwriting sibling keys
15:52.35cladhairethat's an easy fix
15:52.44ag`sounds great
15:52.52ag`:)
15:52.54cladhairenevcairiel: I'll try to get to that.. but if you get to it first <3 :P
15:55.28CIA-1203rophy 07Rophy * r51154 10ParserLib/LibStubCore/ParserLib-1.1/: ParserLib: branching.
15:59.03cncfanaticscryogen, ping
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15:59.57cryogenpong
16:00.46cncfanaticsingame ;)
16:01.09OminousFin: heya!, see you got the date thing sorted :)
16:02.38FinOminous: thanks :) it's not *totally* sorted - but it's better :)
16:02.46cncfanaticsweeeee
16:02.54cncfanaticsgod I hate to track & fix localization bugs
16:02.57FinI got link! today is hooray day!
16:03.02cncfanaticsheh Fin
16:03.06cncfanatics~clap Fin
16:04.05CIA-1203rophy 07Rophy * r51155 10ParserLib/LibStubCore/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua:
16:04.05CIA-12ParserLib: core parsing is separated to a LibStub'ed core parser, which has very
16:04.05CIA-12minimal API and is expected to never change. ParserLib itself now only make use
16:04.05CIA-12of the core parser and provide the traditional table-oriented API to the user.
16:04.06cncfanatics~clap doesnt exist ? what a shame
16:04.41OminousFin: what about the drop down to remove packages etc
16:05.52FinOminous: there's the option to use the regex for now, I'm just adding some sort of presets thingy right now
16:05.56FinI hate javascript
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16:06.04LothaerG'Day
16:06.44OminousFin: cool and lol
16:07.48LothaerZOMG i almost lost my account today
16:08.02nymbiaalmost?
16:08.07Lothaeryeah almost
16:08.33Lothaeri was killing the Dragons of Nightmare
16:08.37Lothaerand i DCed
16:09.13Lothaeri didnt think nothing of it and went to log in, "incorrect Password"
16:09.19Lothaeri was like WTF!!!!!
16:09.24Lothaerso i tried again
16:09.30Lothaer"Incorrect Password:
16:09.36LothaerWTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:09.54Lothaerthen i here over vent some1 say Loth has just come back online so we can pull, i was like
16:09.55PolarinaLothaer: You need to confirm by e-mail whenever you change your password.
16:10.05LothaerNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THATS NOT ME FUCK!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
16:10.14Lothaerno you donyt
16:10.19PolarinaOh...
16:10.20cncfanaticsPolarina, no you don't
16:10.24Lothaernope
16:10.54CIA-1203kunda * r51156 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: deDE fix
16:10.57Lothaerso i went to the WoW site and clicked "Forgot Password" put in my details and the reset it
16:11.15Lothaeri logged pack in and i still had my gear i was like PHEW!!!!!!
16:11.26Lothaeri had almost lost my account
16:11.42Lothaeri have changed me PW 4 times in less than 12hrs now
16:11.49Polarinalol
16:12.21Lothaerso what with it tonight, its quiet
16:12.30Droolthat won't help if you have a keylogger on your system... ;)
16:12.33CIA-1203andyca * r51157 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-zhTW.lua:
16:12.33CIA-12FuBar_ReagentFu:Update zhTW warlock sould shard name in P2.2
16:12.33CIA-12-
16:12.39Lothaerill assume thats because Mr Popular aka ckknight isnt here lol
16:12.52Lothaerif i did its not there now
16:12.58LothaerGARANTTEED
16:13.19Pkekyoanyone here got experience with buying games on Steam?
16:13.23DroolLoth: about those icons in naut, what map was you looking at?
16:13.31Lothaerthe map of stormwinf
16:13.32Lothaerd
16:13.39Lothaeri was in stormwind
16:13.48Droolhrmm, you shouldn't see any icons on that map
16:13.50Lothaerpressed M and i the Zeppline icons were there
16:14.02Lothaerthere not there now though :)
16:14.04Droolyou use cart or another map mod?
16:14.12Droolit had timers for them?
16:14.12Lothaerjust MetaMap
16:14.15Lothaernope
16:14.20Droolnow?
16:14.25Lothaermoused over them and there wasnt any timers
16:14.34Lothaerthere not showing now
16:14.41Lothaerwell they werent earlier
16:14.42Drooldid it literally say not available in the tooltip?
16:14.47Lothaeryu pypu
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16:15.00Lothaerdid u get the error i posted @ incgamers?
16:15.02Droolhmm very odd. and you're using beta d ye?
16:15.06CIA-1203fin * r51158 10FuBar_CorkFu/FuBar_CorkFu.toc:
16:15.06CIA-12FuBar_CorkFu: updated FuBar_CorkFu.toc:
16:15.06CIA-12<PROTECTED>
16:15.06CIA-12<PROTECTED>
16:15.08CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51159 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Highlighting/Highlighting.lua): FlexBar2: Fixed a bug that would cause spells to react in a *weird* way in non-english clients
16:15.19Lothaerim using the latest version at incgamers
16:15.20Droolhmm, incgamers is down at the mo so not if it was posted in the last day
16:15.21Finnalla2: there you go
16:15.28Droolactually i have fixed a startup bug already tho
16:15.32Lothaeryeah i posted it yesterday
16:15.39Droolah ok
16:15.43Lothaeryeah it was at start up
16:15.48Lothaeras i logged in
16:15.54Paradox_http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6484/enahncerbuggm0.jpg :(
16:15.59Droolye
16:16.00Paradox_where can I report this?
16:16.57Lothaeri want this mount http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/mount.jpg
16:17.49cncfanaticsany druid around thats not using an english client ?
16:18.02Lothaerni hao
16:18.07Lothaerlol
16:18.25cncfanaticsLothaer, ur a drood ? :p
16:18.30Lothaernope Priest lol
16:18.37Lothaeri do have a druid though
16:18.47Lothaerbut im on a US client
16:18.49cncfanaticsI need one with faerie fire (feral) or mangle
16:18.51charoni'm sure there's a really mind-boggingly obvious reason why fear (Fear), fear (Death Coil), and fear (Howl of Terror) are three different things, while Blind and Cyclone will soon share diminshing returns? </whine>
16:19.02cncfanaticsLothaer, are you the Lothaer from DAB ? or am I confusing things
16:19.09charon(and note, i don't even play arena, it just ruins the BG fun if you're feared/feared/feared half the time and can't do a bloody thing)
16:19.13Lothaer....
16:19.25LothaerDAB?!?!?!?!
16:19.32Megalonisn't death coil a horrifying effect?
16:19.36cncfanaticsguess i'm confusing things :p
16:19.39Lothaerlol
16:19.49charonMegalon: that's the point, they don't share DR
16:19.49LothaerAUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
16:19.59cncfanaticsLozareth, Lothaer -.-
16:20.04cncfanaticsconfused the names :p
16:20.07Lothaerrofl
16:20.33Droolis it possible to install a chinese language pack on EU client?
16:20.44Lothaernfi
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16:20.58cncfanaticsDrool, it should be in theory
16:21.17cncfanaticsKeya, still around ?
16:21.32Affen_Uzglug`ask your friends drool, those chinese farmers
16:21.40Drooli need to find the equivalent of "^%d%. General %- (.-)$" to parse the message where you change zones
16:21.45Lothaeryeah and tell them to hurry up with my order
16:21.50Lothaer=P
16:21.51Droolit's the only reliable way to detect zone changes on a boat
16:22.28Lothaeru working on China Locals huh Drool
16:23.08Droolwell someone sending me both locales but i didn't include that parser line in it
16:23.54Drooli'm wondering if it's GlobalStrings.lua actually?
16:24.18GrumDoes anyone know when you have a non enUS Cartographer of the saved-variable files will be fully english or not? (especially the zone-names/node-names in the Mining/Herbalism database)
16:24.35cncfanaticsGrum, probably not, I'm not 100% sure though
16:24.37GrumAnyone here with a localized client care to check their db?
16:25.17swayenvoyHi all
16:25.32Kuja__[18:17:47] <cncfanatics> any druid around thats not using an english client ? <- going to test again, hold on
16:26.06swayenvoyandreasg here?
16:26.49CIA-1203recluse * r51160 10NiHao/NiHao.lua:
16:26.49CIA-12NiHao:
16:26.49CIA-12- Trimmed out a bit of unnecessary code
16:26.49CIA-12- Added timer display
16:27.08PkekyoBlack Box project dead?
16:27.12cncfanaticsKuja__: pretty sure the latest commit fixed everything
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16:30.16CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r580 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/12_17_Darkshore.lua: TourGuide: 12_17_Darkshore.lua: levels 12-14 confirmed working
16:30.16CIA-1203warloxx * r51161 10GameLobby/ (BasicServer.lua Core.lua):
16:30.16CIA-12GameLobby:
16:30.16CIA-12- fixed a bug that the variables sended through AceComm aren't associated correctly with the receiving variables.
16:30.55charonswayenvoy: yes, ag`
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16:31.09nymbiacd /root
16:31.09nymbials
16:31.13nymbiaerr
16:31.20nymbia.... nobody saw that
16:31.24Finsaw what?
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16:31.35nymbiaexactly
16:31.52nymbiaindeed
16:32.15Droolor even ssh root@ip
16:32.58nymbiawell that'd just be a nat'd address so it wouldn't much help you ;)
16:33.16Kuja__cncfanatics: yeah its worky now
16:33.50TinyboomPkekyo: buying steam games, been there, done that:) still need help? :)
16:34.02hyperChipmunknymbia: shameful
16:35.03swayenvoythanks for the info charon
16:35.40nymbiahyperChipmunk: harsh
16:36.34cncfanaticsKuja__: yay :)
16:36.36cncfanaticsnymbia !
16:37.36nymbiayo
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16:43.28CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r581 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (Horde/37_37_Alterac_Mountains.lua TourGuide.toc):
16:43.28CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide:
16:43.28CIA-12tekkub-wow:  - Adding AlteracMountains (37-37)
16:43.32backboneif i do table[something] = nil, is it entirely removed from the table or is there still a <reference of key> = nil pair? if not entirely removed, how i do this? looked into the reference man but there was nothing about this
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16:44.09cncfanaticsbackbone, it won't be looped through anymore when using pairs, if thats what you're asking
16:44.18Jorden-EDanyone know if Ant has been fixed yet?
16:45.00backboneok this was a subissue ;)
16:45.04backbonethx
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16:45.58swayenvoyI love FlexBar2 ;)
16:46.05cncfanaticsswayenvoy, thanks :)
16:46.21swayenvoygreat work cncfanatics
16:46.30backboneis it easier to config as the original?
16:46.48cncfanaticsbackbone, still slashcommands :p but I have someone that'll build a gui
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16:46.55swayenvoyby now I think not but with the new gui it will ;)
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16:47.17PkekyoTinyboom: any idea how it works? attempted it once, but wouldn't let me activate the bloody game so I had to go to a store and get it >.<
16:47.41cncfanaticsswayenvoy, anything u don't like about it or features u want added ? while ur here ? :p I'm taking feature requests recently
16:47.48backboneflexbar was really nice ;) but the setup was a hard quest ^^
16:48.02EricaCan anyone tell me how to make fubar_tracker show text on the fubar panel?  I've tried selecting the option in the config panel but it just doesn't show
16:48.22cncfanaticsbackbone, I think its fun :) u can have a basic setup in one minute, or u can tweak it for days
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16:49.07swayenvoyyear there was one thing i hated until i reconfigured FlexBar ;) it's not compatible anymore with old saved variables created with that gui stuff a few versions ago ;)
16:49.10backbone<3 popup action bars :)
16:49.21swayenvoybut since i have my setup it's fine
16:49.39cncfanaticsbackbone, still need to code that -.-
16:49.39PkekyoTinyboom: sorry, but I can't send PMs on this network >.<
16:49.40Pkekyoyeah, got a steam account
16:50.00cncfanaticsswayenvoy, I changed so damn much things there wld have been things broken guaranteed, so I resetted everyone's settings to be sure
16:50.03cncfanaticsand now its time to get dinner
16:50.08Tinyboomkk
16:50.21Pkekyoand yes, I'm norwegian
16:50.25Tinyboomhehe
16:50.34EricaHi  :)
16:50.37swayenvoyYeah I saw that as I had a look at the saved variables
16:50.41the-golemcncfanatics: flexbar commandline only? /cry
16:50.46CIA-1203alar * r51162 10AlarTTFrame/AlarTTFrame.toc: AlarTTFrame Fixed: babble-inventory was not listed as an embedded library
16:51.13Pkekyojust wondering if I should preorder it or not bother and go get it at a store instead...
16:51.31Tinyboomhmm, when you are logged in you should only need to go to the store and buy the game, pay for it with visa or equivalent, then it should be in your games list ready to be downloaded;)
16:51.34backboneare there custom button layouts, like cycircled?
16:51.42Tinyboomorange box? ;)
16:52.05TinyboomPkekyo: already bought it through steam and works wonderfully:)
16:52.09PkekyoTinyboom: suppose I've got to...as they scrapped Black Box :<
16:52.10the-golemisnt cycircled a generic actionbar skinner?
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16:52.23PkekyoTinyboom: norwegian as well?
16:52.54Pkekyothe-golem: think so, howcome?
16:53.03backbonedont know, didnt used it yet, but i seen some screenies with nice looking buttons
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16:53.19cncfanaticsthe-golem, UI being designed, be patient
16:53.22cncfanaticsor get used to the slashcomms :)
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16:53.47the-golemcncfanatics: yeah i saw ;-)
16:54.02backbonecncfanatics: are there custom button layouts? maybe a nice feature ;)
16:54.16cncfanaticsbackbone, what u mean ?
16:54.22TinyboomPkekyo: aye:)
16:54.23backbonelike cycircled
16:54.29cncfanaticsbackbone, cycircled is supported yea
16:54.34cncfanaticsjust install cycircled & profit
16:54.38backboneahhh
16:54.40backbonenice one
16:54.43cncfanatics:)
16:54.55backboneand performance issue?
16:55.17cncfanaticsit takes about 3 times as less memory as bartender
16:55.18PkekyoTinyboom: how'd you pay for it? what bank you using? :>
16:55.32cncfanaticsbackbone, its faster then most actionbar mods I know imo
16:55.55swayenvoycncfanatics got one simple question ;)
16:55.57TinyboomPkekyo: used both postbanken and landkredittbanken, both works good, payed by visa:)
16:56.00backboneyeah memory isnt a problem so far, its more the cpu :(
16:56.29Pkekyomeh...guess I'll give it a shot then
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16:56.43TinyboomPkekyo: good luck:)
16:56.45cncfanaticsswayenvoy, eating now, ask when i'm back :)
16:56.47Pkekyoif it doesn't work this time I'll cut gabe newell's balls off and feed them to him :)
16:56.54TinyboomPkekyo: lol
16:57.16swayenvoyI query you after I'm back from an heroic run
16:57.22Pkekyoyou know norwegian prices...can't afford to buy anything twice
16:57.27Nandiniwhat's the wiki directive to disable the [edit] links on section headings?
16:57.28the-golemPkekyo: sorry, i missed it
16:57.53Pkekyothe-golem: np at all :)
16:58.00backbonesince i started playing around with lua and addon programming, i think ace2 are in some cases a little bit overloaded, but cant judge it in performance issues
16:58.04the-golembasically the actionbar mod "supports" cycircled, allowing it to be skinned
16:58.40the-golemi say generic because bongos2, flexbar(2?), and bt3 all support cycircled skins
16:58.40Jorden-EDFor some strage reason my BG/Arena Score Board is off to the top left of my screen, and all I can realy see is the leave BG button
16:58.50Ericaanyone know anything about the resurrected fubar_tracker mod?
16:58.54Jorden-EDmost of it is off the screen
16:58.56Jorden-EDany ideas?
16:59.14backbonethe-golem: i didnt knew this until, because for unitframes & actionbars i use nurfed
16:59.20TinyboomPkekyo: shouldn't have to buiy it twice:)
16:59.24backbone*now
16:59.26Pkekyothe-golem: methinks you're correct :>
16:59.38the-golemPkekyo: or were you talking abotu something else, lol
16:59.46the-golems/abotu/about/
16:59.50PkekyoTinyboom: indeed, but weren't able to play the ep1 version I bought through steam :<
17:00.10Pkekyothe-golem: nah, we're on the same page, methinks
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17:00.50Tinyboomweird, you got charged too? it automatically adds to your steam account....
17:00.54kenlyricerica, I never realized it was dead, since it worked. But i did see an update to it recently.
17:01.00Pkekyoyeah, I got charged like a motherfucker
17:01.07Pkekyoso had to go buy it at a store instead
17:01.28TinyboomPkekyo: tried contacting them? never had any problem with it....
17:01.39Tinyboomhmm, added my ui to wowinterface, anyone know how long it takes before it's actually available?
17:02.14PkekyoTinyboom: yeah, didn't answer me...bastards...
17:02.14Pkekyoso I'm not sure if I should preorder now or just get it at a store
17:03.16Pkekyo"You are now thinking with portals." lol
17:03.39CIA-1203rabbit * r51163 10Hourglass/core.lua: Hourglass: Minor cleanups.
17:03.40Trell_ck - any word yet on being able to copy profiles between stuff that uses RockConfig?
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17:04.52TinyboomPkekyo: if at first you don't succeed, you fail:p (and should try again) :p
17:05.05NandiniTrell_ if you are desperate you can copy them manually in the saved variables for the addon
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17:05.21PkekyoTinyboom: wanted to play goddammit!
17:05.37Nandinii'm having more success right now editing SVs directly than using the Rock config window for some things
17:05.41Pkekyoif it doesn't work this time, I'll just kill'em all
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17:06.28MoonWitchok I came in here with one insanely stupid question ... Do I have to have an xml file with the declares on sizes etc or can I just set all of that in lua (not using any framework/library) and skip the xml creation altogether
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17:06.50CIA-1203adirelle * r51164 10CastYeller/ (9 files in 2 dirs): CastYeller: do not use AceLocale for funny announces anymore.
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17:06.55WobinMoonWitch: for...?
17:07.04Wobinoh
17:07.13WobinNo you don't need an XML file at all
17:07.21Wobinyou can do everything in plain lua
17:07.35Wobinor at least with the Blizzard widget api
17:07.35PkekyoTinyboom: fine, you've convinced me...will preorder now :)
17:07.42Trell_Nandini: Thankyou.
17:07.45MoonWitchWobin, I am just working on an addon for learning, dont wanna use libraries because of that. I was using the WoW Ui Designer, but it produces a load of crap in xml files, so I prefered using plain lua. (It's with drop down boxes)
17:07.52Funkeh`hello
17:07.53Wobinaye
17:07.54MoonWitchWobin, thanks :)
17:07.55Pkekyoif I've gotten my paycheck yet, that is...fucking three weeks late now >.<
17:07.58MoonWitchhey Funkeh`
17:08.13WobinMoonWitch: http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API
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17:10.33Jorden-EDanyone know what could have moved my score board off the screen?
17:10.38Jorden-EDand how to move it back to the middle?
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17:13.05MoonWitchanyhow, going to close this, otherwise I get distracted all the tim... oh well nvm, minimize ftw :P if ya need me, message me :P
17:14.07TinyboomPkekyo: 3 weeks, you know you can get a lawyer to tell them to pay you or go bankrupt? ^^
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17:14.49PkekyoTinyboom: if only I could afford a lawyer ;) I'm a student with a montly income of 1k
17:16.00Pkekyoleveling my fourth warr now...ezmode :<
17:16.27TinyboomPkekyo: are you in a union? join lo or whatever fits you work and get them to help you, they offer free lawyers;)
17:17.13PkekyoTinyboom: nah, still in VGS
17:17.35TinyboomPkekyo: and... been in a union since I was 16 :p
17:17.54Pkekyowhich one, and whyes? :)
17:18.28TinyboomPkekyo: safety, and "handel & kontor" sub division of LO (helps in cases liek yours
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17:18.51Pkekyocool
17:18.54Pkekyoought to look into that
17:20.08Pkekyowho I'd really like to harass with a lawyer though is Komplett.no
17:21.03Pkekyotheir EULA (in lack of better words) ought to say shipped in 3-4 weeks, not working days
17:24.47Fisker-oh hi
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17:25.23Fisker-there's this hardware dealer in denmark
17:25.31Fisker-they had next-day shipping
17:25.42Fisker-and if you ordered before 6pm you would get it nextday
17:25.54Fisker-but then they began slipping a lot, and they almost do it each time now
17:26.25Fisker-yet they have instead increased their deadline, so now you'll "get it" the next day if you order before 9pm
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17:33.45cncfanaticsbk
17:34.11backbonewb
17:34.44PkekyoFisker-: komplett shipped my stuff 5 weeks late >.<
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17:35.09CIA-1203ag 07Ace3 * r51165 10ag_UnitFrames/: Created folder remotely
17:35.13CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51166 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Highlighting/Highlighting.lua): FlexBar2: Localized correctly using globalstrings instead of parsing my own and doing doublework
17:35.27Jagobahace3 !
17:35.56CIA-1203ag 07Ace3 * r51167 10ag_UnitFrames/ (70 files in 24 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: using Ace3
17:36.18Pkekyoace3 started as well now? sigh...
17:36.22Tinyboom~fail Komplett.no
17:36.23purlKomplett.no: Fail.
17:36.26Paradox_http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6484/enahncerbuggm0.jpg :(
17:36.28Paradox_where can I report this?
17:36.46PkekyoTinyboom: agreed
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17:37.33hypetechanybody know why parrot isn't workign?
17:37.35hypetechworking*
17:37.53Pkekyomy guess would be Rock
17:40.36Pkekyodoes leveling a fourth warrior make me a sadist? :p
17:40.40Nandinishould i be using svn:externals for an addon that is a module of (and has a required dependency on) another addon that already includes those externals?
17:41.14kenlyricwasn't someone working on a pets module for grid?
17:41.16Nandinii don't even include any externals in a libs folder for development
17:41.25kenlyricor is that blizzard working on pets in raid frames?
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17:43.55Hjaltekenlyric, someone is working on a pet plugin
17:46.50kenlyricmust just not be in the trunk yet.
17:48.55Ominousag`: 70 files oO
17:48.57CIA-1203nandini * r51168 10PitBull_FullBar/ (FullBar.lua PitBull_FullBar.toc media/ media/transparent.tga):
17:48.58CIA-12PitBull_FullBar:
17:48.58CIA-12- Added transparent texture to emulate blank space
17:49.06TinyboomPkekyo: no, it just makes you a nutball ;)
17:49.44CIA-1203ag 07Ace3 * r51169 10ag_UnitFrames/ (8 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: externals
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17:55.21PkekyoTinyboom: oh well, I'll settle for the second best then ;>
17:55.53Pkekyoused to have two nelf warriors...deleted them, leveled a tauren to 70...specced prot and got bored, so now I'm leveling a second tauren warr
17:56.26Mudkipso/
17:57.15kenlyricbut why?
17:57.22Pkekyobut why what?
17:57.24kenlyricyou know you can respec, right :)
17:57.37Pkekyoyeah
17:57.40Pkekyobut can't afford it ;>
17:57.46Mudkipshaha :P
17:57.50TNSe>_<
17:57.50MudkipsI love poor people
17:57.53hyperChipmunkdo a quest, get 5 gold
17:57.55kenlyricyou can make 50g faster than you can level to 70
17:58.02hyperChipmunkrespec
17:58.07Mudkipsthey're so poor
17:58.09TNSeand prot is a good way to scratch together gear
17:58.20Pkekyobesides, gotta have something to do when waiting for rested xp on my mage :p
17:58.27kenlyricis this second warrior on another server?
17:58.32Pkekyono it's not
17:59.01Fisker-LOL @ crysis commercial
17:59.04Fisker-"Destruction"
17:59.05PkekyoFisker-: ?
17:59.08Fisker-"Zoom Feature"
17:59.11Fisker-"Weapon Option"
17:59.15Fisker-Yeah no other game has that
17:59.28CIA-1203ag 07Ace3 * r51170 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: more externals
17:59.28Pkekyolol
18:00.04Mudkipsthere are crysis commercials?
18:00.13Fisker-flash ad
18:00.14Fisker-http://www.hypemakers.net/crysis/view/v/f/c/1854/s/671/u/670
18:00.18Mudkipsoh I see
18:00.21Pkekyoprolly means trailer
18:00.50MudkipsOMG ZOOM
18:01.01Mudkipsthat's revolutionary! I should buy that game
18:01.08Mudkips~.~
18:01.27kenlyricis there mouselook?
18:01.46cryogen<PROTECTED>
18:01.47Fisker-reminds me of that playstation 3 presentation
18:01.50Fisker-about some game
18:01.55Fisker-"Real-time weapons change"
18:02.07MudkipsO SHI--
18:02.21kenlyricIN COLOR
18:02.35Mudkipswhoever made that flash lives under a rock
18:02.40kenlyricPolice Squad IN COLOR
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18:02.45Jorden-EDso.. Score Board.. moving off screen (top left) any ideas?
18:02.47CIA-1203funkydude * r51171 10BigWigs/Plugins/ (7 files): BigWigs: Plugins: add esES by geran
18:02.52Jorden-ED*not fully off but mostly*
18:03.28Nefarionis anyone else having issues with "VOICE_PUSH_TO_TALK_START" and "VOICE_PUSH_TO_TALK_STOP" not firing??
18:03.53Pkekyomeh, I hate that Ghostlands/SM flightpaths aren't connected to UC :<
18:04.29Pkekyothat would save me ALOT of runningtime
18:04.40Mudkipsugh
18:04.45Nandiniyes, but it would break the "expansion" nature of the expansion
18:04.51Mudkipswhat's the name of those super highspeed NIC's ??
18:04.55PkekyoNandini: err?
18:04.57kenlyricSM flightpath?
18:05.23Pkekyokenlyric: SilverMoon
18:05.28Mudkipsand you know... they should have made in-game voice PUSH TO TALK ONLY
18:05.35CIA-1203ag 07Ace3 * r51172 10ag_UnitFrames/ (9 files in 7 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: It loads now.
18:05.38Mudkipshearing someone breath is lol
18:05.48kenlyricoh, my brain couldn't grok that.
18:05.58PkekyoMudkips: indeed
18:06.00kenlyricyeah, it's annoying the teleporter is so far into silvermoon
18:06.19Pkekyoaye, and so far outside UC center >.<
18:06.21kenlyriccan't imagine what you'd need to run for :)
18:06.33Pkekyooh well, time to check out what's on TV... laters peeps
18:06.45Nandiniperhaps once BC becomes required to play, they will add flight paths and take down the portals
18:07.06kenlyricprobably not.
18:07.10PkekyoNandini: exactly what part of your statement do you think makes sense? :)
18:07.19hyperChipmunklol, that's exactly when it will happen
18:07.20kenlyricsince they're on different servers
18:07.40Wobinhehe if they have flightpaths...
18:07.46Nandinii was thinking blizzard may not want to support having multiple expansions (and types of accounts) so they will force non-BC accounts to upgrade to at least BC when WotLK comes out
18:07.49hyperChipmunkPkekyo: logically, it's a valid statement
18:07.51kenlyricyou still can't fly between darnassus and stormwind for the same reason.
18:07.53WobinI want the gryphons/griff/bats/etc to wear space helmets
18:08.04hyperChipmunkin an implication, p->q is true always if p is false
18:08.30kenlyricNandini: well, of course that will likely happen. Doesn't mean that those areas can be magically tacked onto the continents they are close to.
18:08.32PkekyohyperChipmunk: not really, as you can't possibly get those flightpaths (ghostlands etc) without actually having a TBC account anyways
18:08.34Nandinionce everyone has a BC account, they can integrate the azeroth BC content into the azeroth maps
18:08.38kenlyricnot without a major overhaul
18:08.59Nandinisince for non-BC players there is a big blank space there anyway
18:09.05hyperChipmunkyeah, but the 'requiring bc' part is false
18:09.16hyperChipmunkso the rest of the statement can be anything
18:09.24hyperChipmunkbecause they'll never require bc
18:09.39Nandinii think it will be a mess for them to support so many types of accounts
18:09.51hyperChipmunkhave you ever played an mmo before wow?
18:10.05kenlyricEQ has like 10 expansions and they do OK.
18:10.07PkekyoAO has a complete fuckload of expansions
18:10.11Pkekyoit's all fine
18:10.14nymbiaif they required BC, they'd need to make it free.
18:10.20Pkekyonymbia: agreed
18:10.31kenlyricI think that was implied, of course.
18:10.37Pkekyowhich will NEVER happen, 'cause blizz NEEED...MOAR....MNEY!!!111
18:10.43Nandinithink it will be possible to have a WotlK account without buying BC first?
18:10.48Pkekyoyes
18:10.54hyperChipmunkabsolutely
18:10.55Nandiniwhere you could level from 60 to 70 on mobs in azeroth? lol
18:11.04Mudkipsyeah ...
18:11.06WobinBoars
18:11.10Mudkipsthat doesn't make any sense
18:11.12nymbialol
18:11.16Pkekyo"This expansion pack requires that you buy the original game AND all_other_expansions" <--- not likely
18:11.22hyperChipmunkstuff outside kharazan is level 70
18:11.34Nandinitrue, and they drop some greens
18:11.35Mudkipsya and they kicked my ass at 60
18:11.41CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r582 10/trunk/TourGuide/TourGuide.toc:
18:11.41CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide:
18:11.41CIA-12tekkub-wow:  - Added all horde parts that aren't added yet in the toc (commented out)
18:11.46MudkipsKZ mobs
18:11.48hyperChipmunkyou can do quests
18:12.01Nandinitrue, i quested all the way up to 64 in azeroth
18:12.03kenlyricget a group
18:12.09kenlyricegads
18:12.14Nandinimaybe that's another reason they are gonna increase exp rates
18:12.17kenlyricthat hurts.
18:12.25Nandiniso you can get to 70 without having to buy BC more easily
18:12.28Mudkipseh this is difficult
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18:12.57hyperChipmunkthe exp rate increase was only 20-60 iirc
18:12.58Mudkipsit's not that fun to lvl 60-70 just to get into Wotlk
18:13.11Mudkipswithout BC that is... it's kinda gimp if you ask me
18:13.11Nandinihmm good point
18:13.24Nandinibut it would be POSSIBLE, they could tell that to people who complain
18:14.11Nandinieven if they upped the quest reward xp for the level 58-60 quests, if you did all the ones in azeroth you could probably get into the high 60s
18:14.16Mudkipsplayers already fork the money for monthly fees for just the original game
18:14.30Mudkipsif they really wanted to get into Wotlk zones, they might as well get TBC also
18:14.53Nandiniyes, but why pay for content you are likely to finish in a week?
18:15.04Mudkipswell that's their fault
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18:15.17kenlyricyes, but throwing the new starting zones into the old continents requires major code changes, without much benefit.
18:15.22Mudkipsthe majority of people bought TBC on launch
18:15.56Nandinii haven't met anyone who doesn't have TBC
18:16.06kenlyriclols
18:16.12kenlyricit's proved then
18:16.15kenlyricend of discussion!
18:16.16Nandiniexcept some ppl with trial accounts
18:16.56nalla2Fin
18:16.57nalla2thx
18:17.47CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51173 10FlexBar2/Action/Action.lua: FlexBar2: Fix a typo
18:18.10kenlyricincreasing the quest xp 30% in azeroth still makes TBC quests more efficient.
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18:18.29kenlyricand, the mobs give more xp, to boot.
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18:18.39MudkipsI might just level up my pally and lock in the 40's
18:18.48Mudkips8ball says unlikely
18:18.55Fisker-why do you want to die Mudkips?
18:19.22CIA-1203stan * r51174 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua:
18:19.22CIA-12LibDogTag-2.0:
18:19.22CIA-12- added german spell trees again
18:19.26Mudkipsis that an e-threat?
18:19.30Mudkipso noes
18:19.41Mudkipsslash cower
18:20.17CIA-1203rophy * r51175 10FBP2SlideBar/ (8 files in 3 dirs): FBP2SlideBar: initial commit on wowace, convert FuBarPlugin-2.0 minimap buttons to SlideBar buttons.
18:20.36NightHawkTheSaneSlidebar?
18:20.37kenlyricI'm still trying to figure out why someone would torture themselves levelling to 64 in azeroth.
18:20.40Ominousrophy: Slidebar?
18:20.56Mudkipsit's okay kenlyric
18:21.03Mudkipshere have an [icecream]
18:21.14kenlyrichurra!
18:21.27Nandinikenlyric: I was just bored and had never seen a lot of the high level zones in azeroth, so i decided to quest there on an alt
18:21.28Mudkipstainted with AIDS! Enjoy!!
18:21.41kebinusanhyperChipmunk: BGFu should let you leave/join arenas too
18:21.49kenlyricoh, i guess if you'd never done it.
18:21.50hyperChipmunkkebinusan: it does
18:22.11hyperChipmunkthere's no difference apiwise between arena queues and bg ones
18:22.17rophySlideBar (originally knows as nSideBar) is a project by norgs of Auctioneer
18:22.27NightHawkTheSanegot a link?
18:22.29rophywhich let you add buttons to a bar
18:22.30hyperChipmunkso it would be an effort to remove the functionality
18:22.40hyperChipmunkit just came automatically
18:22.42rophyOminous: http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/1761/wowscrnshot100707010311tb8.jpg
18:22.51Nandinii like the slidebar, personally
18:22.57rophythe bar to the right is SlideBar
18:23.10rophya collapsable bar of buttons
18:23.11NightHawkTheSaneInteresting. I assume it pops in/out?
18:23.14rophyya
18:23.18Nandiniyup, it "slides" :)
18:23.20NightHawkTheSanethat's actually pretty neat.
18:23.32Nandinihover over it and it slides out
18:23.33rophyit pops in and left a faded yellow handler when you leave mouse
18:23.37kenlyriclooks like the new auctioneer config button.
18:23.51Nandiniyes, they put the auctioneer and enchantrix config buttons there
18:23.54Fisker-i'm going to disagree
18:23.54rophyhaving 1000 minimap buttons sucks
18:23.57rophyso I created this project
18:24.07kenlyricI have no minimap buttons.
18:24.15rophyyou dont need it then
18:24.23Nandinii have 1 button (2 when i'm queued for BG/arena)
18:24.36CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r583 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/ (25_25_Barrens.lua 25_25_Southern_Barrens.lua): Renamed to Barrens as thats the zone area
18:24.48kebinusanhmm maybe I need to update but I dont get the leave arena option on my bgfu menu
18:25.17cncfanaticsI have 4546541641 minimap buttons
18:25.24Fisker-no.
18:25.29Fisker-you have less than that
18:25.36kebinusanhyperChipmunk: yeah I dont see a leave arena option or anything
18:26.00NightHawkTheSaneblarg. so has anyone besides me noticed cart_herbalism (and probably _mining too) not picking up successfully looted nodes?
18:26.01kenlyricfubar friend good
18:27.01hyperChipmunkkebinusan: rightclick
18:27.54CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r584 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
18:27.54CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide:
18:27.54CIA-12tekkub-wow:  - adding some (empty) parts
18:28.40CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51176 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: DrDamage: Fix a bug in non-english versions
18:28.53kebinusanhc yeah I was, not seeing any options for arenas
18:29.02hyperChipmunkare you in an arena?
18:29.05kebinusanyes
18:29.15hyperChipmunkthen you sux; i use it all the time
18:29.30kebinusanhm, must
18:29.52kebinusanalso suggestion, can you somehow indiate with bgfu if the match is rated or not
18:30.08Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1153025653&sid=1 <-ahahahaha
18:30.21hyperChipmunkyou should have made suggestions when i was still developing it
18:30.55hyperChipmunknot the day after i release it
18:31.05CIA-1203stan * r51177 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua:
18:31.05CIA-12LibDogTag-2.0:
18:31.05CIA-12- deDe fix
18:31.12kebinusanmy bad
18:31.31hyperChipmunk>8P
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18:33.43cncfanaticsKaelten, around ?
18:35.20Kuja__hyperChipmunk: any clue what could be the cause of that bug? i thought of one but that isn't it as the comments show http://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-36
18:36.31AnduinLotharTinyboom: pong
18:36.40hyperChipmunkKuja__: that translation is in there
18:36.43hyperChipmunkit's in babble-spell
18:37.13Fisker->8P hyperChipmunk?! >8P?!
18:37.58Kuja__yeah, but i thought b/c it isn't in the toc it isn't used, but that isn't it... i have nfc :P
18:38.13backbone* Using local _G = getfenv(), then accessing _G.SomeValue is much faster than using getglobal("SoleValue") (for repeated calls), but it is actually slightly slower than just accessing SomeValue as a normal global.
18:38.15backbone--Ckknight 06:55, 1 January 2007 (EST)
18:38.16backbone* "G.SomeGlobal" is actually ~10-15% faster than just "SomeGlobal" (for repeated calls). Presumably because "SomeGlobal" ends up doing the equivalent of a getfenv() each time internally (in C, so much faster than doing it from Lua, obviously).
18:38.18backbone--Mikk 00:19, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
18:38.22backbonewhats the truth?
18:38.27backbone:/
18:38.48ckknight_Mikk's right
18:38.52ckknight_I was wrong back then
18:38.55ckknight_hey all
18:39.01backbonehi
18:39.03Fisker-i disagree
18:39.21ckknightit's not a disagreement thing, it's a benchmarking thing
18:39.23backboneckknight: so it's allways better to user _G.someglobal?
18:39.35kenlyrici disagree with benches
18:39.38ckknightbackbone: if you have _G as an upvalue or local
18:39.39Polarinagetglobal() is slooow.. Use _G instead.
18:39.54PolarinaAnd why do  _G = getfenv()?
18:40.06backboneoO?
18:40.09CIA-1203hyperactiveChipmunk * r51178 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/ (Cartographer_ExtractGas.toc libs/):
18:40.09CIA-12Cartographer_ExtractGas:
18:40.09CIA-12- added Babble-Spell-2.2 to externals and .toc
18:40.26hyperChipmunkKuja__: update, restart wow, and see if that helps
18:40.27backbonebecause local
18:40.37Polarinabackbone: local _G = _G
18:40.41PolarinaDifference?
18:40.51backbonedont know if _G is a global itself
18:40.52hyperChipmunk_G wasn't set until 2.0
18:40.56ckknight_G wasn't available before 2.0
18:41.02PolarinaAnd?
18:41.13hyperChipmunkand you had to use setfenv
18:41.17backboneso now local _G = _G should be the same
18:41.23hyperChipmunksome haven't been changed
18:41.29Kuja__hyperChipmunk: i was just passing that bugreport to you, im not able to test that :)
18:42.33cncfanaticshmm wow refuses to start without locking up
18:42.38cncfanaticsrebooting
18:43.50backbonehow much times i need to call a global function until it's more efficient to do local global = _G.global?
18:44.13_raneis there a way to add an item to ludwig's database by a name?
18:45.02backbones/much/many
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18:47.38backbonecncfanatics: do you know, how many times i need to call a global until it's more efficient to do local global = _G.global?
18:48.25cncfanaticsbackbone, no idea
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18:48.56CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r585 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (34 files in 2 dirs):
18:48.56CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide:
18:48.56CIA-12tekkub-wow:  - added all unfinished horde parts in order
18:49.49backbone-.-
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18:57.30cncfanaticsdid Kaelten say anything between when I left & when I rejoined ? :p
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19:00.21backboneno
19:05.29ckknightcncfanatics: he said he didn't like you and not to tell anyone
19:05.31ckknightwhoops
19:05.34ckknight(j/k)
19:05.56cncfanaticsckknight btw, is carto still bugged ?
19:06.04ckknightthere's a bug?
19:06.05cncfanaticsI can't click any waypoints / boss icons / party members
19:06.36CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r586 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/37_37_Alterac_Mountains.lua:
19:06.36CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide:
19:06.36CIA-12tekkub-wow:  - added coordinates
19:06.53cncfanaticscryogen; ping
19:06.53Xinhuangrum: ping
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19:08.56ToadkillerDoes SecureHookScript from acehook work?
19:09.39cncfanaticswhy would it not ?
19:10.03CIA-1203gagorian * r51179 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua Melee.lua):
19:10.03CIA-12DrDamage:
19:10.03CIA-12- Prevents mhType concatenation errors by just setting the weapon normalization coefficient to defaults if the item isn't recognized properly (apparently happens with some types of items?)
19:11.10Gagoriancncfanatics: It didn't at some point
19:11.14GagorianNot sure if it has been added
19:11.20GagorianCause blizzard added it at a later patch
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19:12.01CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r587 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/ (37_38_Dustwallow_March.lua 37_38_Dustwallow_Marsh.lua): Renamed remotely
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19:12.37ToadkillerWell, the code works when just replacing the script with my own handler.  but replacing the parts where it is set to nil with UnHook & the parts where it is set with SecureHookScript gives me no callback.
19:13.52ToadkillerAccording to IsHooked it is operating normally but it jsut doesnt actually get called.
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19:15.48ToadkillerMmm so theres a blizz function to hook scripts?
19:16.01CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r589 10/trunk/TourGuide/TourGuide.toc:
19:16.01CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide:
19:16.01CIA-12tekkub-wow:  - typo
19:16.45Gnarfozbtw, how'd I best capture when an addon gets blocked doing something? (should be ADDON_BLOCKED) happens again and again when trying to apply poisons to my weapons through AutoBar :\
19:16.53Gnarfoznothing shows up in bugsack :<
19:17.07CIA-1203damjau * r51180 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: fix SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0 koKR mount pattern(bug aspect of pack)
19:17.08backboneToadkiller: Frame:HookScript()?
19:17.26backboneFrame:HookScript("handler", function) - Hook a secure frame script. - Since 2.1.
19:17.37Toadkillerbackbone: yeah just noticed that tx.
19:18.54ToadkillerGnarfoz: Thats not good, but I have no way to check poisons, no rogue.  There will be a new alpha today once i get this script hooking down.  If it happens in the alpha let me know.
19:19.01Jaxon~DogTag
19:19.09GnarfozToadkiller: sweet, looking forward to it :)
19:19.11Jaxon:(
19:19.50ToadkillerGnarfoz: do you get the Addon blocked when applying non-poisons?  like sharpening stones or something?
19:19.59Gnarfozhmm
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19:20.16Gnarfozcan't tell, I'll look for that specifically next time it happens
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19:22.36OminousFin: ping
19:24.24Nandininew wowwiki resource to see which datacenter hosts your US realm: http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter
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19:25.06swayenvoyAnyone is in touch with ag_Unitframes and what you can do with it?
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19:27.26Mudkipswow dude...
19:27.27Mudkipshttp://www.dramantitrustsettlement.com/dram/default.htm
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19:29.22Mudkipsgot a claim form in the mail for a class action suit against a bunch of dram companies
19:29.34CIA-1203kbranch * r51184 10GearDPS/ (Calculations.lua GearDPS.toc):
19:29.34CIA-12GearDPS:
19:29.34CIA-12- Updated the TOC for 2.2
19:29.34CIA-12- Fixed some problems with feral druids
19:30.36Toadkillerswayenvoy: I used to use ag_ but switched to pitbull
19:32.11swayenvoyah k so I don't have ingame probs i'm going to make an addon which makes a new UnitFrame for CC skills
19:32.17CIA-1203ulic * r51185 10LittleWigs/ (5 files in 3 dirs): LittleWigs: deDE updates
19:32.24swayenvoywith an timer in it an recast on click
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19:33.22CIA-12AvionComicMedia: (Some extra comic textures)
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19:35.39durcyn~ugt
19:35.39purlit has been said that ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
19:35.43swayenvoymaybe it is easier to accomplish with Pitbull may have a look at it
19:36.24durcynswayenvoy: er, why not just use focus?
19:37.03swayenvoydurcyn: because i want my focus free for other units ;)
19:39.01chexsumso you want a non-unit frame?
19:39.45swayenvoyI think it is something in between
19:40.04kenlyricit's either a focus, a target, or a party/raid target.
19:40.20kenlyricand all the targets of those things.
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19:41.15chexsuminvalid-unit frame
19:41.18kenlyricso either you or somebody else has to keep it targeted/focused. And since you're crowd controlling it, that's probably just you.
19:42.16chexsumfocus is meant for ccing
19:42.24swayenvoyk so that what I'm going to do will not work as I expected
19:42.30kenlyricno.
19:42.30Shirik|AFKwho the hell said focus is meant for CCing
19:42.36Shirik|AFKit's meant for whatever you want
19:43.10Shirik|AFKWhen healing I use it to keep an extra eye on someone of high importance. On my hunter I use it for misdirection.
19:43.17Ominousdoes anyone have any screenshots of gladiator in action
19:43.21kenlyricnot just every mob can have a valid unitframe. it has to be targeted in some way.
19:43.38Shirik|AFKAny mob that has a valid unitid can have a unitframe :)
19:44.07kenlyricdoes anything have a valid unitid if it's not targeted in some way?
19:44.21Shirik|AFKsure
19:44.22Shirik|AFKfocus?
19:44.29kenlyric"targetted in some way"
19:44.35Shirik|AFKI wouldn't call that targetted
19:44.44kenlyric"in some way"
19:44.53Shirik|AFK"in some way" would imply someone in your raid has it targetted
19:45.00Shirik|AFKok, what about mouseover?
19:45.03chexsumfocus is just a secondary target
19:45.18chexsummouseover is a tertiary target
19:45.22Shirik|AFKheh
19:45.30Shirik|AFKif I keep giving you solutions you just going to keep adding to that?
19:45.37durcyner, yes, but raidXXfocus and raidXXmouseover aren't valid tokens
19:46.01Shirik|AFKLogically if it can be used, it would be "a form of targetting" using your definitions
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19:49.05chexsumyou could probably use lasttarget to have another nit actually
19:49.06swayenvoyfor casting i have to target the unit and this will generate an unitid
19:49.34chexsumitd just require targetlasttarget to be used before it was a valid unit for other spells
19:50.01CIA-1203rophy * r51188 10FBP2SlideBar/ (FBP2SlideBar.lua FBP2SlideBar.toc config.lua):
19:50.01CIA-12FBP2SlideBar:
19:50.01CIA-12- commented out the examples in exception list.
19:50.01CIA-12- the addon should now work when FuBar is not loaded.
19:50.18JaxonI've found two pages on the wiki related to dogtags, but I'm still having trouble with this one line.  Are there other resources I'm missing?
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19:50.47Nandinithere is a good, long forum post with examples that may help you, Jaxon
19:50.54swayenvoyI can target an unit viá the generated unitid ^^ and after wards i can cast on it i'm right?
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19:51.27JaxonNandini: do you happen to know the topic title?
19:51.29kenlyriconly while it has a valid unitid
19:51.32chexsumunitid = target/focus/player etc :P
19:51.40kenlyricit doesn't just magically exist forever
19:51.43chexsumits not a unique id
19:52.13NandiniJaxon: try http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6037.0
19:52.29swayenvoyk so when i target it it exists and when targeting an other unit it gets destroied
19:52.44JaxonNandini: aha, thanks, I wouldn't think to look under Unitframes
19:52.55chexsums/destroied/replaced
19:53.01kenlyriceventually, yes.
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19:53.06kenlyricyes
19:53.17Nandiniyeah, it's used for cowtip and aloft too i think, but i think this is the best discussion
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19:53.36reiserhi
19:53.55swayenvoywill have a look at api doc
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19:54.33reiseri have question about recount addon, can I hide it somehow ? e.g. i dont want to see it while raiding, only want to see stats after raid is done
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19:55.17Nandinireiser: i think recount has an 'X' button in its window you can use to hide it
19:55.32Nandinibring it back later with /recount show
19:55.37reiseromg
19:55.39reiser*blush*
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19:56.54CIA-12BigBrother:
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19:57.32swayenvoyhm there is no way to target an unit by name
19:59.07NightHawkTheSanecan druids use equipped items with a "use:" effect in forms?
19:59.25kenlyricuh, /target unitname
19:59.59swayenvoyis there an equivalent in lua
20:00.07NightHawkTheSaneno
20:00.14kenlyric<PROTECTED>
20:00.25NightHawkTheSane~comfort kenlyric
20:00.26purlThere, there, kenlyric.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
20:00.27MudkipsNightHawkTheSane, uhhh yes
20:00.44kenlyricyou can't cast a spell on someone based on name. Youhave to give them a unitid as described above.
20:00.58NightHawkTheSaneMudkips: "uhhh"? are you sure? or just guessing? P
20:00.59NightHawkTheSane:P
20:01.03kenlyricand no, raid icon is not a unitid, much to my sadness :)
20:01.19durcynNightHawkTheSane: some items, yes.  spyglass of the hidden fleet was specifically named in a patch note
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20:02.00NandiniNightHawkTheSane: you can only use the use-effects of trinkets while in a beast form
20:02.01swayenvoyyeah i'm thinking about how to generate an unitid via the name and a raid symbol
20:02.32durcynuhh, you don't generate unitids
20:02.47swayenvoyvia targeting i can generate an unitid
20:02.54Nandiniyou cannot use a parachute cloak or a special weapon while in bear/cat form
20:03.05kenlyricmouseover, target, focus, grouptarget. And their targets into infinity. That's all there is.
20:03.07NightHawkTheSaneswayenvoy: the best you can hope for is to loop over a table of unitids and check to see if that unitid's name/symbol is the one you're looking for :P
20:03.13durcynno, when someone has it targetted, there is a unitid that just so happens to coincide with the unit
20:03.16kenlyricno name, no raid icon.
20:03.35Finhey btw, did everyone hear about those new panty liners with little bells on them and bits of tinsel?
20:03.53MudkipsNightHawkTheSane, no I'm not guessing
20:03.58MudkipsI just thought it was common knowledge
20:04.02Finit's just a promotion for the Christmas period
20:04.25NightHawkTheSaneMudkips: i havn't played a druid past level ~35, so. :P
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20:04.38Mudkipsand as far as I know
20:04.40NightHawkTheSanei also have a pretty poor memory. :)
20:04.44Mudkipsyou can use "
20:04.46kenlyricyeah, not sure why that would be common knowledge for non-druids.
20:04.49Mudkipsspecial weapons in feral form
20:04.59Mudkipsfor example, kael'thas staff while in catform for the buff
20:05.31kenlyricso they can't use all those AP trinkets?
20:05.34Nandiniyou're right Mudkips, i think there are some weapons you can't use
20:05.40Mudkipsprobably
20:05.46Mudkipsbut they don't matter to druids
20:06.02Nandinidruids are SUPPOSED to be able to use any trinket in forms (spyglass was a bug)
20:06.07chexsumi think trinkets work in forms now
20:06.10Mudkipsthe most commonly used druid weapons I see don't have a use
20:06.15swayenvoyso i realy need to focus this unit :(
20:06.17Mudkipsand that goes for all specs
20:06.28kenlyricwait, I thought it was common knowledge that you couldn't?
20:06.30Nandinii've encoutnered some weapons that are used for specific quests that i'm sure i couldn't use in cat form
20:06.36kenlyricme so confusled
20:06.38Mudkipsonly for spyglass?
20:06.48Nandinispyglass was broken, it can be used in forms now
20:06.52MudkipsI've never used on of those
20:06.53Mudkipsone*
20:07.06Mudkipsnot that it was game breaking against druids haha
20:07.20Nandiniany equipped item with a use effect can be used in moonkin form tho, since it is considered "humanoid"
20:07.25CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r590 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/12_17_Darkshore.lua: levels 14-16 confirmed working
20:07.36Mudkipsya there are those quest items
20:07.42the-golem_lol
20:07.44the-golem_that reminds me
20:07.55the-golem_i was dueling a druid on my hunter
20:08.02backbonecncfanatics: ping
20:08.05Nandinii don't know how moonkin ended up humanoid, it seems closer to beast to me
20:08.07the-golem_and popped scare beast on him ^^
20:08.14cncfanaticsbackbone, pong
20:08.22the-golem_Nandini: walking around on 2 legs = humanoid
20:08.40Nandinimy bear can dance on two legs! but he falls back down :(
20:08.42Mudkipsmoonkins were always humanoids
20:08.51kenlyricraptors?
20:09.02Mudkipslike the ones in darkshore nightelf leveling area
20:09.04NightHawkTheSaneraptor? i hardly know her.
20:09.08backbonecncfanatics: when i have done table[key] = nil, will return #table i-1?
20:09.08the-golem_LOL
20:09.16the-golem_lawl kenlyric
20:09.27the-golem_my apologies
20:09.31the-golem_walkinga round UPRIGHT
20:09.37the-golem_raptors arent upright ^^
20:10.11the-golem_and probably somethign in there about not having opposable thumbs maybe
20:10.12kenlyricuhhh.
20:10.20the-golem_idk
20:10.26kenlyricthumbs, sure :)
20:10.32NightHawkTheSanemoonkin have thumbs?
20:10.40the-golem_sure they do *shrug*
20:10.48the-golem_( i dunno, havent looked )
20:11.02Mudkipsmoonkins can hold a staff
20:11.06Mudkipsso they must have thumbs
20:11.07the-golem_they can wield weapons, so i should hope so
20:11.09kenlyrici bet it's all the mobs who are human-like
20:11.22backbonecncfanatics: that was another issue of my question
20:11.24kenlyricGUESS!
20:11.47the-golem_human-like == humanoid, no? ^^
20:11.58kenlyrici know it's a leap.
20:12.16Mudkipsin b4 creationism
20:12.25Nandinii think the key point was "beasts cannot wield a weapon", which makes sense
20:12.27Finhm
20:12.29hyperChipmunkdemons can hold weapons
20:12.30kenlyricthey build structures, they cast spells, etc.
20:12.41Mudkipsbut demons are demons
20:12.42hyperChipmunkdemons and humanoids
20:12.43kenlyricdo yeti ever wield weapons?
20:12.46Mudkipsnope
20:12.46cncfanaticsbackbone, ehm, #table only returns anything for numericaly indexed tables
20:12.53Mudkipsyeti don't need weapons
20:12.54kenlyricand they're skinnable!
20:12.55Finwell, see, you could say that Adys is humanoid - he's human in shape, sort of - but I don't necessarily think I'd agree that he was human-like
20:12.57Mudkipsgot they bad breath attack!!!
20:12.58cncfanaticsto remove something from a numericaly indexed table u should do table.remove(index);
20:13.05the-golem_worgen are skinnable too!
20:13.24kenlyricguess you need fur.
20:13.25cncfanaticsbackbone table[key] = nil is for dictionaries
20:13.36hyperChipmunkowlbeasts were classified as beasts a loooooong time ago
20:13.37kenlyricmoonkin have feathers.
20:13.43Finbonzai!
20:13.44backbonecncfanatics: so how can i find out if a dictionary is empty?
20:13.58the-golem_hyperChipmunk: this isn't DnD *grin*
20:14.04Finif not hash then
20:14.05the-golem_im jk ;-)
20:14.13hyperChipmunkowlbeasts = moonkin
20:14.18Mudkipslike it matters
20:14.19the-golem_shhhhhh
20:14.23Mudkipsblizzards changes lore as they wish :P
20:14.24the-golem_dont tell!
20:14.31MudkipsBlizzard*
20:14.38kenlyrichttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=owlbeast#npcs
20:14.41the-golem_indeed
20:14.44kenlyricguess you're confused.
20:14.51the-golem_i keep calling murlocs, "froglocs"
20:15.03the-golem_carry-over from EQ1
20:15.06hyperChipmunkhaha
20:15.12hyperChipmunkoh lord, frogloks
20:15.16kenlyricI still want Creep/Giant combos
20:15.18the-golem_my friends all look at my like, wtf?
20:15.41the-golem_then im like .. uhh. .. *murloc noise*
20:15.48backbonecncfanatics: without a loop :/
20:15.54cncfanaticsbackbone, keep a count somewhere ?
20:15.54hyperChipmunkthey made frogloks playable, didn't they
20:16.06cncfanaticsor loop
20:16.15hyperChipmunkmaybe we'll be able to play murlocs someday!
20:16.18LaGGyyes you can play frogloks in eq2
20:16.21backbonett
20:16.34hyperChipmunkyeah, you could in one of the expansions of eq1 too
20:16.41hyperChipmunkLDoN i think it was
20:16.55the-golem_yep
20:16.59kenlyricmost importantly, they all get turned into orcs/gnomes
20:17.00the-golem_LDoN was one of the best expansions
20:17.15swayenvoymay someone have a look at http://ace.pastebin.com/m5c2cbd68 and tell me if that would work as expected?
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20:17.22Mudkipshaha http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1396/1492074876_bd245bcfc9_o.jpg
20:17.22hyperChipmunktwo best expansions were SoV and PoP
20:17.25Mudkipswhat a dork...
20:17.26kenlyricgron as giant orc is funny...can't wait to see him as giant gnome
20:17.29Mudkipsa cool dork !
20:17.38PolarinaMidkips: LOL
20:17.55the-golem_ewwww
20:18.09the-golem_PoP was trash ( actually i dunno )
20:18.21hyperChipmunkpop was great
20:18.29kenlyricthose people look pretty disinterested.
20:18.32kenlyricsingultarity?
20:18.43the-golem_then i played CoH .. and i was like ..  this is *just* like LDoN .. all over the place
20:18.55backbonecncfanatics: i will take the counter
20:19.13MudkipsThis needs a caption: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1208040355&size=m
20:19.25Brunershmm
20:19.30Brunersupdate server down or?
20:19.40the-golem_get off deez nuts?
20:19.43the-golem_idk
20:20.03Mudkipsthe-golem_ 7/10
20:20.41the-golem_afk
20:20.53cncfanaticsbackbone, u picked the same solution as me then :)
20:22.06backbonebetter to do some arithmetics on a local, than to traverse a table
20:23.28backbonecncfanatics: but local empty = true; for _ in pairs(table) do empty = false; break; end should be a good solution, too?
20:23.57cncfanaticsuhu
20:25.29backbonedont know how much performance "pairs" leech
20:26.10Brunersis it something wrong with the WAU or the server atm ?
20:26.51cncfanaticsno idea backbone, benchmark it ?
20:27.00Pkekyomornin' peeps
20:27.11Brunersmorning
20:27.59backbonehmmm
20:28.12Trell_'The lesser known starling eating guinea pig always has ingenious plans for when he gets hungry.'
20:28.23BrunersUnable to connect to the remote server
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20:29.10Pkekyogotta love it...pizza for breakfeast at 10pm
20:29.33backbonecncfanatics: started last week with lua, dont have visual studio or an lua env (outside of wow), is there any addon which do some benchmarks under wow?
20:29.41Trell_my message just now wasn't a random quote btw, it was for:  <Mudkips> This needs a caption: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1208040355&size=m
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20:31.26NimbalThat's no guinea pig... ;-)
20:31.58cncfanaticsbackbone, there's ingame funcs for such a type of localization
20:32.01cncfanatics!api profilestart
20:32.03CIA-1203rabbit * r51190 10oRA2/ (Core.lua Optional/Resurrection.lua): oRA2: Recycle a table and some minor cleanup in core.
20:32.19backboneok :)
20:32.43Trell_i guessed ;)  and im sure they aren't starlings, but I was under pressure damnit!
20:33.15swayenvoy!api focusunit
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20:37.24Nandiniwoohoo i found a way to increase my Gomez Peer income by slowing down the processor on my laptop!
20:37.24swayenvoyanyone an idea of how to create securecode for calling Protected API?
20:37.47Nandiniit takes longer to do the same amount of work so i get paid more!
20:38.09Nandinii could pay for 3 wow subscriptions a month like this :)
20:39.40CIA-1203warloxx * r51191 10GameLobby/Core.lua:
20:39.40CIA-12GameLobby:
20:39.40CIA-12- add a forgotten "return"
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20:42.55Pkekyohmm... got school 8.15am to 3.30pm..... should I accept a job with workinghours 2am to 7am?
20:43.14chexsumwowwiki says protected api is for use by blizzard signed code only
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20:43.32Pkekyocorrect
20:44.04ZhinjioAnyone hre recently purchased a laptop?
20:44.27PkekyoZhinjio: what you need?
20:44.43Zhinjiogaming/utility laptop
20:44.52Zhinjionot so high end as alienware, but able to play WoW comfortably
20:45.06ZhinjioI'll be using it for plugin testing, writing, etc.
20:45.19PkekyoZhinjio: the new HP laptops are decent...I'd imagine they'd perform GREAT if you'd format it and install win XP :>
20:45.20swayenvoyyeah i'm passing by this via Script i think
20:45.33Zhinjioyeah, thats what I'm leaning towards right now.
20:45.51Zhinjioand yes, I'll install XP
20:46.22Pkekyotbh, I like the new HP laptops, both utility and hardware-wise
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20:46.51ZhinjioI agree. I got my wife one about 6 months ago, and its been great.
20:47.01backbone<3 apple
20:47.10Nandiniare there rules for what i can put in my signature for the wowace.com forums? i can't seem to find them
20:47.19ZhinjioI did see the Dell prices coming down to match them, but I'm not really fond of Dell, in general.
20:47.25chexsumif i had a computer that could run vista id put linux on it and run wow in wine
20:47.26PkekyoNandini: as long as it's not genitalia, it should be fine
20:47.35PkekyoZhinjio: used to have a dell laptop
20:47.42Pkekyonow I don't...
20:47.49Pkekyointerpret as you wish :>
20:47.54Nandinican i put a link to my Gomez Peer signup page? (i get money for referrals, but it's not exactly advertising)
20:47.59Zhinjio*nod*
20:48.15PkekyoI'm actually stuck with some piece of shit IBM now
20:48.25PkekyoI hate it...I hate even more that I've got Vista on it >.<
20:48.50ZhinjioSince either Dell or HP come with vista, I'll probably play with it for a couple days before I nuke it. But it won't be long.
20:49.10chexsummy computer is a 1.2g athlon :x
20:49.14Fisker-~seen antiarc
20:49.16purlantiarc <n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 35m 30s ago, saying: 'And is free'.
20:49.20chexsumits pretty old
20:49.21PkekyoZhinjio: I've had too much experience with Vista allready...would just get it formatted the second I unpacked the LT
20:49.44Nandiniyou can still get XP as an option on some dell computers
20:49.44Zhinjioyeah, I've not played with it at all, so...
20:50.06Zhinjiocouldn't see it as an option on the laptops.
20:50.52PkekyoZhinjio: it's lagging my current laptop to shit...and I'm fucking expected to edit movies on that piece of shit (which basicly means Adobe Premier, Photoshop and Fireworks up at the same time)
20:51.08Brunersanyone got an idea why my WAU is not working ?
20:51.20PkekyoBruners: because YOUR FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!111
20:51.26Pkekyosorry, bored out of my skull :)
20:53.02Tupsianyone using xloot?
20:53.21Tupsithe dimension of the lootframe seem to have chaned in a recent update
20:53.41Pkekyofucksake...my fucking P.E/Gym teacher is taking straight outta the fucking army >.<
20:54.19Zhinjiothanks for the opinions, Pkekyo.
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20:54.34Pkekyo"Does it hurt?"
20:54.34Pkekyo"- YEAH! LIKE HELL!"
20:54.35Pkekyo"....GOOD!!!!!!!!"
20:54.37PkekyoZhinjio: a pleasure :)
20:55.36Pkekyo"Does it hurt?"
20:55.36Pkekyo"- no..."
20:55.36Pkekyo"...THEN DO IT PROPERLY!!!!!!"
20:55.42Pkekyomy gym teacher's a cunt :>
20:55.59swayenvoyHow to call a /function out of an lua script?
20:56.34backbonein an extrem prog?
20:56.38backbone*extern
20:56.50swayenvoyin an addon
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20:57.13swayenvoylike /focus asdf
20:58.14backboneRunScript("script") - Execute "script" as a block of LUA code. ???
20:58.50swayenvoyI'll have a try on it
20:59.10Towbarguy any of you use pitbull?
20:59.20Nandinii do occasionally
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20:59.23backbonei tought all makro commands have an equal WoW API command?
20:59.29Towbarthere is a bug in party target that greys out half the screen
20:59.39Towbarand its jsut party targets
20:59.59Nandinii have party target frames turned on and haven't encountered that yet
21:00.14Towbarparty targets, not party frames
21:00.19Towbarah
21:00.19Towbarh
21:00.24Towbari get it sometmies
21:00.37Towbardisableing party targets or a reloadui fixes it
21:00.54Towbarwill try get it again and screen to give to ck maybe?
21:01.12Nandiniit's probably a texture or frame that gets mistakenly parented to UIParent or something, a screenshot might help
21:01.36Nandinicould be similar to the occasional bug where an icon texture gets parented to the entire unit frame
21:01.40Towbaryea was thinking that
21:03.09Towbarhappens quite often for me tbh
21:03.15ulicTowbar: I do get that from time to time, mostly when joining parties/raids, usually it goes away, maybe 1 in 10 I have to reloadui
21:03.44Towbarsame for me
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21:03.56Towbarsometimes it goes, other times i reloadui
21:04.15CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51192 10FlexBar2/ (36 files in 11 dirs): FlexBar2: Add GPLv3 license
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21:06.00NightHawkTheSane"Oh my, that's beaufiful, It's like Elwynn Forest." ><
21:06.14Towbarstargate sg atlantis s4ep2!
21:06.16kadrahil....
21:06.28Pkekyostargate atlantis s4 launched?
21:06.28Towbar<3
21:06.33NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: like, last week
21:06.39Towbarthis week
21:06.46swayenvoyRunScript don't do what I want do to I think
21:07.04PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: meh! will have to wait for ages to get it then :<
21:07.13NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: l2torrent
21:07.16Towbari never watch tv
21:07.22Towbarwatch alot of tv shows though
21:07.24Towbar:)
21:07.32Towbar1700gb ftw
21:07.33NightHawkTheSanei don't actually OWN a tv.
21:07.35Towbarin this box
21:07.50PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: same, but can't be arsed to watch one episode/week or whatev :<
21:08.01Towbarnighthawk i got a nice widescreen tv but i prefer the sound of my megawaorks and monitor to watch on
21:08.09Towbar550D thx
21:08.18Towbarlike nice sound when i watch stuff
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21:10.10Pkekyohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v01Z6O4o-_c holy jumping fucking jesus
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21:12.06mikmahmm let's see
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21:13.10Towbarhe is good
21:13.15Pkekyohe is fucking amazing
21:13.21Pkekyoyou play the guitar?
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21:13.41mikmaPkekyo: take this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k
21:13.44TinyboomPkekyo: did you manage to buy the game? :)
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21:14.23cibsexcuse me, if anyone know about the pattern of gsub %a means ?
21:14.33PkekyoTinyboom: nah, had to find an atm and check if I've actually got any money ;>
21:14.48Pkekyomikma: impressive
21:14.51cibsHow can I distinguish between %a and .
21:14.57Pkekyothough I'd stick with the Bond cover
21:15.10TinyboomPkekyo: hehe, l2phone-balance :p
21:15.17mikmayou should watch it to the end Pkekyo :)
21:15.21mikma(the one i pasted)
21:15.38PkekyoTinyboom: was going for a drive anyways ;>
21:15.55Pkekyomikma: I'm sorry to say, but I'm not THAT fond of the ukulele ;)
21:16.35mikmaPkekyo: me neither but still, 1:40 ->
21:16.59Pkekyomight check it out later...it's in flames-time now
21:17.20CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51193 10FlexBar2/ (13 files in 11 dirs): FlexBar2: fix various stupid typo's
21:17.23vhaarrmikma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esl2NNOtHQE BAM!
21:17.34mikmavhaarr: elzar
21:17.37vhaarr:P
21:17.52vhaarrlove that film btw
21:17.56vhaarrhaven't seen it in a while though
21:18.03vhaarr(where that clip is from)
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21:19.35PkekyoDeliverance any good?
21:20.05mikmaPkekyo: yeah, this is a must paste everytime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcZGzjKbWvg
21:20.37vhaarrcheck out the clip I pasted around 02:30, that's where it gets going
21:21.08mikmavhaarr: yeah just at that part :D
21:21.13vhaarr:D
21:21.23Pkekyovhaarr: duelling banjo clip?
21:21.53vhaarrye
21:22.12Pkekyoit's wicked
21:22.18Pkekyoheard it fuckloads of times :)
21:22.46Pkekyomikma: yeah, Canon's good...my mate's completely obsessed with it ^^
21:22.52vhaarrtime to see the movie then
21:22.58vhaarrsince you clearly haven't :P
21:23.01mikmaPkekyo: no wonder, it's freaking brilliant tune
21:23.20Pkekyomikma: indeed!
21:23.37Pkekyodon't really like the start, but anyways :9
21:23.38Pkekyo:)
21:23.41mikmathey also say that the japanese dude playes it better
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21:23.47Pkekyovhaarr: agreed
21:24.08mikmalet's see can i find it
21:24.22Pkekyotbh, I'd like to see some impressive Bass covers :>
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21:24.31vhaarrmikma: that was rocking, haven't seen that one
21:24.38mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmOBTP0iDqY
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21:25.35Pkekyomikma: got any good bass covers? ;>
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21:25.48mikmaPkekyo: nope :/
21:26.07Pkekyothey're really hard to find :<
21:26.18Pkekyous bass players need something to admire too goddammit!
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21:27.21mikmawell you can always compare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcZGzjKbWvg vs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmOBTP0iDqY
21:27.57Pkekyocanon on a 6-string bass sounds fun tbh
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21:28.19swayenvoyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wfdgY5ZYDk <<--- flawless victory
21:28.22mikmaPkekyo: sounds worth of youtubing
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21:28.39Pkekyomikma: if I only could afford a 6-string ;)
21:29.07mikmado it pro-leet, use only 1
21:29.08Pkekyoit'd be close to fucking impossible on a bass I'd imagine...strings too rough and too far apart imo
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21:29.51kaiden^Anyone know if the forum avatars ont he worldofwarcraft.com forums are available to download from anywhere?
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21:30.10PkekyoI like the sound alot better on the asian version, but can't really tell which one is the better guitar player...
21:30.30Pkekyokaiden: right-click, open picture, save picture as?
21:30.46kaiden^Pkekyo, images are created on the fly and all called pixel.gif
21:30.47kaiden^next
21:31.07Pkekyokaiden^: well that's fucktarded :<
21:31.12kaiden^lol
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21:31.22Pkekyomikma: the asian guy does the calm part of it better
21:31.32mikmaoh dear lord, guitar hero
21:31.38mikmathe antichrist
21:31.47Pkekyolol, indeed
21:32.03Pkekyoever seen people rock at guitar hero wanting to go pro guitarist? it's hilarious
21:32.22swayenvoyi only find it amazing how fast someone can push so many buttons ;)
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21:32.31kaiden^maybe they aren't
21:32.46kaiden^<PROTECTED>
21:32.47mikmahmmmm there was this comic about guitarhero
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21:33.07mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQeIyGPByM >> babality
21:34.03mikmaPkekyo: well anyway, check the ukulele thing i pasted :I it's something that needs to be seen atleast once in lifetime
21:34.33Pkekyomikma: too many youtube links being thrown at me at the same time xD
21:35.32mikmaexcuses!
21:35.48backbonei have a funtion defined at the top of my script (table.funcname = function(some params) do something end... later in the script i call this function from an object and got a nil value error :/ can someone give me a hint?
21:35.49swayenvoysame problem here its amazing ;) but jake shimabukuro rocks ;)
21:35.53Pkekyomikma: which also happen to be facts
21:36.14mikmaPkekyo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k then.. skip to the 1:40 and listen to the end from that point on hehe
21:36.49Nargiddleykaiden^, the images are set as the background for that div, pixel.gif is just a transparent placeholder
21:37.10Pkekyois it just me, or is 99% of all growling dead boring?
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21:39.54cryogenhow long's it usually take for a svn requset to go through?
21:40.18Pkekyomonths
21:40.31Towbarthat was fuckin amazin
21:40.44Pkekyomikma: wicked
21:40.47TowbarUkulele weeps by Jake Shimabukuro
21:40.51Towbarawesome man
21:40.57Pkekyohe makes that little piece of shit actually sound cool :p
21:41.35mikmaPkekyo: that's what i was trying to tell you all along
21:42.08Pkekyohehe
21:43.08Pkekyoanyone know what musical genre CKY actually is?
21:43.24miicaananas
21:43.34Pkekyo:)
21:43.41backboneno one could help? :(
21:43.47Pkekyodamn you, made me want to go out and buy ananas, you bastard!
21:44.07Ellipsiso.O
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21:45.05Pkekyobackbone: people tend to do everything but help when there's a real conversation going on, for some reason :p
21:45.16mikmai has ananas in the kitchen
21:45.19cryogencncfanatics: muha, it's done, finished, complete
21:45.19mikmaalso noodles. mmm
21:45.30Pkekyomikma: DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL
21:45.32Ellipsiswant noodles =[
21:45.46cncfanaticscryogen, woootage
21:45.52cncfanaticscryogen, its made out of pure win
21:46.19backbonePkekyo: sorry for interrupt ur conversation, wasnt the intention :(
21:46.24mikmai like it when he pointed all the damnation to me
21:46.34Ominousckknight: ping
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21:46.37cryogenjust wishi could commit it
21:46.48cryogenim scared of breaking it now
21:46.49cncfanaticscryogen,  want me to ?
21:46.56Xinhuan~api GetScrollChild
21:46.57purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetScrollChild
21:47.02Pkekyobackbone: no problem at all, was only pointing out a possible reason for you not getting any help with your problem :) people tend to pay less attention
21:47.04cryogensure
21:47.10cryogenlet me upload it somewhere
21:47.36CIA-1203damjau * r51194 10Avion/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Avion - add koKR locals
21:47.50JackHoundHey, who had the spreadsheet with the datacenters for the battlegroups?
21:48.00Nandinii did, but i put it on wowwiki too
21:48.02Pkekyoblizzard?
21:48.08JackHoundAh, cool.
21:48.09CIA-1203damjau * r51195 10LibAvionAddin-1.0/AvionAddin-1.0/AvionAddin-1.0.lua: LibAvionAddin-1.0 - add koKR locals
21:48.33Nandinihere you go
21:48.34Nandinihttp://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter
21:48.41JackHoundWhats the artical called? On WoWWiki?
21:48.42JackHoundnm
21:48.50CIA-1203damjau * r51196 10IconDoit/IconDoit.lua: IconDoit: add koKR locals
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21:49.16Nandiniit has every US realm's IP address too
21:49.19JackHoundHm. Interesting sutff.
21:49.21Industrialgood thing I dont support localisation :o
21:49.24JackHoundstuff*
21:49.42Nandiniyeah i never would have guessed my realm on Eastern Time was located in los angeles
21:49.46backboneso lets try again -.- why i cant call a funtion, which is part of a local table, from the inside of an object?
21:51.03Pkekyobackbone: gl hf :) sorry, but I don't know jack shit 'bout your problem
21:51.16hyperChipmunkanyone else see that Toyota Tacoma commercial on ABC just a few mins ago?
21:51.36cryogencncfanatics: http://pkl.net/~stu/FlexBar2_BuffDur.rar
21:51.41Towbarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddn4MGaS3N4&mode=related&search=
21:51.51cncfanaticscryogen, will upload it, might take a while, using all my bandwith already
21:51.52Towbarguy whole uses guitar as a drum too :)
21:51.55nymbiabackbone: pastey?
21:51.56Towbarvery nice sounds
21:52.12Towbaraficra is good too
21:52.13hyperChipmunkwas set entirely in wow
21:52.22backbonejust a moment
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21:52.47cncfanaticscryogen, u forgot to depend on the TextSubs module
21:52.48PkekyohyperChipmunk: linkage? :)
21:53.01cncfanaticscryogen, and they should be optdeps, as they can also be embed
21:53.06hyperChipmunkcan't find it anywhere
21:53.08hyperChipmunkon the web
21:53.22hyperChipmunkwas really funny though =)
21:53.38Pkekyowtb
21:53.43Pkekyorip it the next time it's on plx
21:53.44cncfanaticscryogen, fixed for yoo :)
21:54.06swayenvoyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zee050CQx70 something to laught about
21:54.07Towbaranyone watching andy mckee?
21:54.18cryogenkk
21:54.45Towbari like africa better
21:54.53Towbarits the first linkl you get on the side
21:54.59Towbarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt1fB62cGbo
21:55.38CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51197 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/ (. BuffDur.lua FlexBar2_Buffdur.toc module.xml): FlexBar2_BuffDur: Initial import
21:55.39cncfanaticscryogen, check if it works
21:55.50backbonenymbia: http://www.pastey.net/74953
21:56.08Xinhuanwhat does that do cncfanatics ;p
21:56.19cncfanaticsXinhuan, add buff/debuff durations textsub
21:56.26Xinhuanon your curr target?
21:56.27backbonehmmm displays the buff duration at the button? ^^
21:56.40cncfanaticsXInhuan, buffs on yourself, debuffs on current target
21:56.42CIA-1203damjau * r51198 10NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc):
21:56.42CIA-12NextStep: update 0.8
21:56.42CIA-12- add data, fix data(wow 2.2)
21:56.42CIA-12- fix bugs in short text func
21:56.50Xinhuanwhat about buffs on party members?
21:56.55cncfanaticsnot tracked, atm
21:57.05cncfanaticsask cryogen to add that :)
21:57.06nymbiabackbone: what's the error you're getting?
21:57.10cncfanaticsin the meantime I'll add a highlight for it
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21:57.25CIA-1203damjau * r51199 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.toc WhoDropData_Drop.lua WhoDropData_ETC.lua):
21:57.25CIA-12WhoDrop - update 0.61
21:57.25CIA-12- fix miss typo
21:57.26backbonenymbia: RegisterUnitEvent is a nil value
21:57.32cryogenhow would you want that tracked? by targetting them?
21:57.45cncfanaticscryogen, same as debuffs I guess
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21:58.43cryogenseems like a strange thing to want, but ye it would be easy enough
21:58.44backboneit would be cool it at the top of button grow little bars :) :P
21:58.52cryogenhaha
21:58.58nymbiabackbone: check if the UnitManager table is still intact, then.. something else is going on after declaring the fuction and before the attempted call
21:59.08orionshockurg....
21:59.16orionshockNymbia!
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21:59.31nymbiawhere?  that douche owes me 20 bucks!
21:59.42orionshockjust the person i was looking for
21:59.42cncfanaticscryogen, for druids it could be handy for hots I guess
21:59.47backbonenymbia: the whole thing is a part of a library
21:59.50nymbia~flee
21:59.51purlACTION runs away screaming
21:59.52Xinhuanyou could theoretically rebuff your party members before a boss
21:59.59Xinhuanby checking if their duration < 5 minutes
22:00.01orionshock<PROTECTED>
22:00.06cncfanaticscryogen, btw, u'd have to put priority in, if the buff is both on the player and on the target u should show the one on the target imo
22:00.26Xelopherisxraidstatus can check how many players are lacking a buff -- could simply modify that a bit to check for buff duration less than X time
22:00.29Fisker-no :(
22:00.40Xinhuani don't like running XRS
22:00.50Diaohm
22:00.53Xinhuanbecause what XRS shows is already available in any decent raidframes
22:00.55Xelopherisyou can take the buff code out of it then and base an addon off of that
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22:01.03Xinhuani.e show who is alive, dead, shows certain buffs
22:01.09Diaoanyone know if uh
22:01.11Xinhuanand show res timers, etc
22:01.13nymbiabackbone: for debugging purposes, stick a reference to UnitManager in a global, then when that call rolls around, check if UnitManager == GlobalReferenceToUnitManager
22:01.20Diaoany other addons interfere with xloot
22:01.26Diaoin terms of displaying the loot frame
22:01.32cryogencncfanatics: ya i was thinkin that if you have a target, you get the target (de)buff, otherwise it's player
22:01.39Gnarfoza good friend list synchronising addon is...
22:01.49orionshocknymbia: ...oddly enough with running deeper scans of battlegroups i was contacted this morning by a Koren translator asking if i could run the tattle data miner for those battlegroup regions... but im running into a problem adjusting the dataminer ... :D
22:02.08cncfanaticscryogen, thats the way :)
22:02.08nymbiaorionshock: what's it doin?
22:02.15cncfanaticscryogen, i'm currently also adding a highlight for buffs on the target
22:03.02orionshocki think it's thowing errors because the dataminer uses a Key value for determining classes ect, and not dynamicly...
22:03.22nymbiahrm
22:03.38Towbarhttp://stage6.divx.com/Jake/video/1113103/Jake-Shimabukuro-LIVE:-While-My-Guitar-Gently-Weeps-HD
22:03.44Towbarhd version of jake
22:03.47Towbarawesome
22:03.55cryogencncfanatics: yellow hilight maybe? :)
22:04.30cncfanaticscryogen, I was thinking about lightgreen, what u think ?
22:04.30orionshockhttp://ace.pastey.net/74954 -- the line numbers are off because i've added things here and there
22:04.35cryogenworks also
22:04.58cryogeni joined some random guild btw :D
22:05.14cryogeni liked the name
22:06.07orionshockme thinks if i can add teh proper UTF8 names to the table & replicate the info for each class it'll work again
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22:08.43nymbiaorionshock: yeah, just duplicates of the classes in the talenttreelengths table and it should work
22:09.09orionshockproblem is getting the UTF8 names... it's not in babble class :(
22:09.51nymbiagrab em out of the raw XML on the asian armory pages?
22:09.56cncfanaticscryogen
22:10.02orionshock..? hwo
22:10.03cncfanaticscryogen, where u at ingame ?
22:10.30cryogenatm.. dead again :p
22:10.39cryogenbut what you mean
22:10.50cncfanaticstarget buffs testing
22:10.53cncfanaticsI need a target to test it on, hint
22:11.04cryogenah
22:11.06cryogenbarrens :p
22:11.12cncfanaticsmake a new char plx
22:11.16cncfanaticsa tauren one
22:11.21the-golemits amazing how you two can play and irc at the same time ^^
22:11.40cncfanaticsthe-golom, lol
22:11.44cncfanaticswe talk ingame, and in irc :p
22:11.50the-golemwtb a mod that interfaces with my irc ^^
22:11.51cncfanaticsgolem* -.-
22:11.53cncfanaticsya
22:11.58backbonenymbia: its the same reference, but now i get an AceLibrary error because the table is in the global reference
22:12.17cryogenhmm moment
22:12.25cryogenlet me get alive again and kill supervisor whatshisface
22:12.40nymbiabackbone: thats odd
22:13.54nymbiaorionshock: lemme find one, one sec
22:14.59Gnarfoznymbia: http://ace.pastey.net/74955 < :(
22:15.35Xinhuan<the-golem> wtb a mod that interfaces with my irc ^^
22:15.40CIA-1203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r51200 10TankPoints/ (TankPoints-Locale-enUS.lua TankPoints.lua):
22:15.40CIA-12TankPoints:
22:15.40CIA-12- Show 2nd-best school EH - tooltip shows EH for all schools
22:15.44Xinhuanactually if you write an IRC client that uses the clipboard....
22:15.56Xinhuannvm
22:16.02Xinhuanclipboard operatins are retarded ;p
22:16.06nymbiaorionshock: for instance, http://kr.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=%EC%9A%B0%EC%84%9C&ts=5&t=%EC%97%90%EC%8A%A4%EB%9D%BC%EC%9D%B8&select=%EC%97%90%EC%8A%A4%EB%9D%BC%EC%9D%B8&fl=1
22:16.13cncfanaticsthere are actualy irc overlays I think ?
22:16.28nymbiaorionshock: (hope your browser can handle that character set ;) )
22:16.45Xinhuanor buy a 2nd monitor
22:16.47Xinhuanrun dual screen
22:17.04cncfanaticscan't afford :)
22:17.28orionshockright but those char's don't nicely copy and paste over to Scite
22:17.54nymbiaGnarfoz: looks like there's just no data for your realm in the files, for whatever reason?
22:18.16Nandiniaww they have a pink bunny as their team icon :)
22:19.44Gnarfoznymbia: oO unlikely? :D
22:19.47backbonenymbia: in that table the "api" functions for my library are in and the tablefunction are working around AceOO classes which should not be accessed except from this table
22:19.58Gnarfoznymbia: it works for most players
22:20.14orionshockGnarfoz - what BG & realm?
22:20.30Gnarfozorionshock: EU Raserei, Das Syndikat
22:20.42CIA-1203charon * r51201 10Postman/Postman.lua: Postman: hopefully fix nil format error
22:20.43backbonenymbia: ok this wasnt correct: the classes should not be instanciated from the outside of the library
22:21.14nymbiabackbone: ok, that makes sense.  it should work... >.<
22:22.48swayenvoyanyone heard about the new iRack?
22:23.06backbonebut the objects themselfs uses some function of the "api" table and i cant access them from the inside of my library
22:23.22backbone*using
22:23.39Diaoanyone know
22:23.42Diaowhat might cause this? http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/8935/wowscrnshot100607151200eq5.jpg
22:24.21orionshockGnarfoz:  do a /dump Tattle.EUData["Raserei"]
22:24.32orionshockthat should hate you something fearce
22:24.38Undinei've had odd xloot things, but only on some chars
22:24.53swayenvoyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE
22:25.11orionshockUndine: best thing i found for xLoot issues is to reset the profile -- works like a charm for me :D
22:25.24cncfanaticscryogen, update ur module xD
22:25.26CIA-1203cncfanatics * r51202 10FlexBar2/Highlighting/Highlighting.lua: FlexBar2: Add a TargetBuff highlighting that will highlight if your target is buffed with the spell on the current button
22:25.27backbonenymbia: at first i had the api as singleton class and it works, but to have it as a table is faster and more userfriendly
22:25.34Undinei need to remember to make quartz load at startup rather than on demand
22:27.21CIA-1203xinhuan * r51203 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Added option slider to add to the width of WoWEquip.
22:28.01XinhuanUndine: if you use AddonLoader, you can change that in addonloader
22:28.04Diaowel
22:28.09Diaoorionshock look at my screenshot
22:28.40cncfanaticsXinhuan, added a highlight for if a buff is on the target :)
22:28.46cncfanaticsyou're a druid for wanting that ?
22:28.54Xinhuanno. i don't even use fb2 ;p
22:28.59m4rku5Xinhuan, that woud be retared even if you write an irc client that uses the clipboard - ud have to manually press ctrl+c all the time in wow xD
22:29.02Xinhuanbut it doesn't prevent me from giving suggestions
22:29.25Xinhuanjust like how you can give suggestions to my addons!
22:29.42orionshockDiao: reset the profile
22:29.55orionshockright click - > xloot > xloot > adv options > reset
22:29.56Gnarfozorionshock: that kind of locked up my client for 10 seconds and spat out... all the data? ^^ I've got a full parse of my battlegroup loaded
22:30.01Xinhuanbut it makes sense to do such tracking for HOTs
22:30.08Diaohm
22:30.09orionshockgnarfoz.. humm...
22:30.21Diaok
22:30.28cncfanaticsXinhuan :p :)
22:30.38CoreyDiao what are you using to make your buttons look like that?
22:30.53Diaojust did that
22:30.57Diaoand it didn't work orionshock
22:31.03Diaoit's cycircled with bartender3
22:31.39orionshockmeh...
22:31.40Coreymine always end up as circles with that ;\
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22:31.48Gnarfozorionshock: could that still have something to do with this whole mess where names got appended a "-"?
22:31.55orionshockGnarfoz, yep that's what it was suposed to do
22:32.19orionshockwell add some debug code in and find out
22:32.49Diaodownload uh
22:32.51Diaocycircled_vol
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22:32.53Diaoand use that texture
22:33.26Diaodebug enabled
22:33.29Diaodoesn't show anything different :(
22:34.15orionshocko.>  no Gnarfoz add some debug code in and find out
22:34.33Gnarfoz:D
22:34.43orionshockDiao: .. don't know.. the term screwed comes to mind for some reason :D
22:35.22orionshockGnarfoz: ... do you need me to add it for you and then upload it somewhere?
22:35.24Diaolol
22:35.36Gnarfozorionshock: I could try myself, later, doing a heroic atm
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22:35.41orionshocklol
22:35.43Gnarfozif you're bored, go ahead ;)
22:35.51orionshocknot really
22:35.57backbonenymbia: it is definitly a problem with the AceLibrary registering stuff... if i do AceLibrary:Register( { UnitManager = UnitManager }, .... it works
22:38.00backbonebut then i have to access my library via library.UnitManager.somefunction() :/
22:38.29Nargiddleybackbone, how are you accessing it after you register it ?
22:39.30backboneinside the objects of my library i do simple call the locale of the table
22:39.45Nargiddleywhere do you get that object ?
22:40.34backboneit is created by the library, but i dont want to store a library reference within the object because this causes less performance
22:41.26cncfanaticswhy not ?
22:41.33Coreycncfanatics you know how i would do that? make the square buttons from cycircled_vol with your settexture thing?
22:41.40Nargiddleyafter you register something with acelibrary, you must access it through the object returned from AceLibrary("LibName"), the table you used to register isn't valid
22:41.57cncfanaticsCorey, just install cyCircled
22:42.00cncfanaticsit works with flexbar
22:42.15cncfanaticsFlexBar2 works with cyCircled like any other AB addon
22:42.24cncfanaticsinstall cycircled, install the skin, select the skin, profit
22:42.32backbonebecause self.Library is less performant, than only Library
22:42.49cncfanaticsbackbone, seriously, thats micro-optimization
22:42.54Nargiddleybackbone, is this the lib calling its own functions ?
22:43.07Nargiddleyso in the same file that you register it
22:43.16backboneyes
22:43.44CIA-1203nymbia * r51204 10Tattle/dataminer.lua: Tattle: Add some koKR stuff to talents table.
22:43.46nymbiaorionshock: ^
22:43.57orionshock:D thanks...
22:44.24nymbiaorionshock: those will probably need to be added to the table above that one too, now that I think about it
22:44.28orionshockbut it got it right, adding the stuff to the tallent table worked.. on top of the other output file stuff?
22:44.51backbonelike i described some lines ago, i the api of the library is a table with some functions and it plays around with some local classes and from the inside of the objects of this classes i need to use some "api"table functions
22:45.11Nargiddleybackbone, acelib destroys the orig table, get a new reference to the library
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22:46.24backbonelike AceLibrary:Register(...); local myLib = AceLibrary("myLib")?
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22:46.37Nargiddleyyes
22:46.52Nargiddleywell you'd already have the local name you just passed to register
22:47.12NargiddleyAceLibrary:Register(MyLib,...) MyLib = AceLibrary("MyLib")
22:47.47backboneand thereafter the class implementations? i bet this is worst style ^^
22:48.12Nargiddleyeg this is the end of Waterfall, AceLibrary:Register(Waterfall, MAJOR_VERSION, MINOR_VERSION, activate) Waterfall = AceLibrary("Waterfall-1.0")
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22:48.48backboneyou mean i can leave it at the end of the lib?
22:48.52backbonei ll try
22:48.55backbonejust a moment
22:49.11Nargiddleyyes, nothing else should have to change.
22:51.35backboneit works
22:51.42backbonebig thanks
22:52.11orionshock:(
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22:52.28orionshockSciTE won't convert to UTF8 encoding...
22:52.32the-golemwhat are common minimap mods which make it square?
22:52.40backbonesimpleMinimap
22:52.48the-golemorionshock: wtf? really?
22:53.12orionshock... either that or going from 8-bit to UTF8 it fubar's the file something fearce
22:53.19the-golemshould be able to select UTF from a menu option somewhere ^^
22:53.26Coreycryogen you're a druid right?
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22:53.53Ominouswith svn how do you make something keep executable permissions?
22:54.00Ominouseg a sh file
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22:56.36Ominousdw dound it
22:57.43TinyboomAnduinLothar: ping
22:57.53AnduinLotharpong
22:57.59orionshock<,<
22:58.23orionshockit just dosn't like me
22:58.35TinyboomAnduinLothar: about chatbar;) any chance of making it scale? ;) way too small and found no option for it:)
22:59.00AnduinLotharuse fluid frames perhaps
22:59.31TinyboomAnduinLothar: gonna check that out, thanks:)
23:00.28orionshock>.> if i use UTF8 encoding i get lua5.1: kr-tw-8bit.lua:1: unexpected symbol near '∩'
23:00.29the-golemorionshock: i dont really use scite, but i *do* use Notepad++ which is scite based (and probably a wee bit bloated) and im 99% sure that it does UTF8
23:00.43orionshockyes it does UTF8, it just hates me
23:00.55the-golemlol
23:01.01cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
23:01.08the-golem<PROTECTED>
23:01.11cladhairewhats a really _really_ basic pally blessing manager?
23:01.13MoonWitchnow we're getting a vast influx of people with errors related to have both Cart1 and cart2 installed, or asking which version is the recent one :(
23:01.25cladhairei'm level 17, and just want to be able to set it per person or per class so i can easily rebuff.
23:01.25orionshockMoonWitch: where?
23:01.48MoonWitchorionshock, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9023.0
23:01.55cncfanaticscladhaire, pallypower does it all, no idea if there's a basic one :(
23:01.59cncfanatics(never found one that is)
23:02.14cladhaireah okay
23:02.21the-golemcncfanatics: blah ... gvim irks me
23:02.24MoonWitchI think that error is due to having both, otherwise I got no clue. Since cart there is asking dewdrop, yet cart 2 doesn't use dewdrop, so there is no deps for it
23:02.41orionshockactually moon, they both use DewDrop...
23:02.45the-golemi dont like that it has to keep scrolling until the lastline is at the very top of the UI
23:02.50MoonWitchooh cladhaire I would love one like that too
23:02.51the-golempage*
23:02.53the-golemthing
23:02.58the-golem*shuts up*
23:03.05MoonWitchorionshock, really? what does cart2 do with dewdrop?
23:04.01MoonWitchcorrected the error
23:04.09the-golemhmm
23:04.22the-golemdewdrop is a dropdown lib yeah?
23:04.43MoonWitchyeah
23:04.52orionshockMoonWitch: in the main frame, clicking on the left button gives a dewdrop menu
23:04.59MoonWitchaaaah
23:05.08the-golemdo modules that "utilize" dewddrop still function if there isnt one installed?
23:05.09MoonWitchdidn't even think of that orionshock .. thanks :)
23:05.12orionshock:D
23:05.27orionshockand ... the error in the post you linked - he's running Cart2
23:05.37orionshock<PROTECTED>
23:05.48MoonWitchyeah because it says LibRock
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23:07.23Pkekyo....RIAA....
23:07.55the-golemimho, having a Menu should be an added feature, not a required one ... oh hell *shuts up again*
23:08.02MoonWitchnext up for me, getting rid of xml frame while getting my dang slash command on A event :(
23:09.39MoonWitchmeh, first addons suck
23:09.39MoonWitchlol
23:10.34orionshockthe-golem: actualy dewdrop became a defacto config method out of shear lazy-ass-ness of the authors not waning to write a config gui of sorts for it (... if your going correct me on a vague technicality stfu idc)
23:11.50the-golemlol
23:11.52m4rku5orionshock, well having dewdrop or a FuBar dropdown as config is really nice since you can re-use your ace options table
23:12.01m4rku5and even rock recognizes that options table ;)
23:12.12m4rku5so its really nice (for lazy people like me)
23:12.45the-golemwhat i was thinking is that /slash commands at a minimum, and dewdrop as a "feature" not a "requirement"
23:13.14orionshocktbh the Ace3 method that they are conjuring up , rock config, and the ace2 options tables should be cross comba able - to the extent that one only has to write ONE table, and not have another gui shit a brick on a field it doesn't support.
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23:13.38the-golem*nod*
23:13.57ShirikI don't see a valid reason for having to write your program for three different frameworks
23:14.07kenlyricuh
23:14.29the-golemthats not what he said?
23:14.34Shirikthen what did he say?
23:14.45orionshock.. Just the config options,
23:14.47ShirikWhat I read is that he wants to be able to write one option table that works with three frameworks
23:15.08orionshockShirik: by that notion, why should rockConfig show anything but rock based addons ?
23:15.11kenlyricno, he wants the three frameworks to use one options table.
23:15.11the-golemright, the 3 frameworks should recognize it ...
23:15.20kenlyricit's the exact opposite of what you said.
23:15.28the-golemyeah
23:15.30the-golemexactly
23:15.36the-golem*shuts up*
23:15.37the-golemlol
23:15.37m4rku5the-golem, afaik Rock and Ace2-Options are compatible
23:15.38Nandinii think we need two MORE frameworks, as well... Paper and Scissors
23:15.45MoonWitchafaik?
23:15.50MoonWitchLOL Nandini
23:15.52Shirikas far as I know
23:15.53orionshockall im saying is that the 3 formats should play nicely with one another and not shit a brick on an unsupported table method
23:15.58MoonWitchty shieldb
23:15.58kenlyricwhich, afaik, rock does already.
23:16.02MoonWitchShirik, ty :)
23:16.22kenlyricso everyone glare at ace3 to make sure it does too *glare*
23:16.35orionshockm4rku5: ... better said that Rock supports Ace2 Option Tables, but not the other way arround
23:16.38dylanm_I am really, really sour on generic configuration. I might be the only one.
23:16.39MoonWitch*glare*
23:16.42the-golem*glare*
23:16.43ShirikI just don't see why one should, to manipulate your terms, "give a shit" at all about an addon which was intended for another framework
23:16.45Shirikbut whatever
23:16.57ShirikOn this note: 14(1911:1411:5314) 14(11158orionshock14) Shirik: by that notion, why should rockConfig show anything but rock based addons ?
23:16.57m4rku5orionshock, well as long as ace3 does also support ace2 option tables ;)
23:16.59ShirikIt shouldn't
23:17.18orionshockfair enough.
23:17.31MoonWitchif all devs stick to not set in stones yet standardized rules, it should work out ok
23:17.36dylanm_And having every framework have an embedded lol-@-usability configuration app that recognizes every other framework...
23:17.48MoonWitchthat said, with the current trend of things, there is no way that ace3 will be made to work with rock
23:17.55orionshocksomething tells me tho that once Ace3 config methods stablize that they will be imported into rockConfig some how..
23:18.19m4rku5MoonWitch, i dont care if ace3 cares about rock config tables ;) i just want to to support old ace2 option tables ;)
23:18.20cladhairewhich seems like a horrible nightmare to me.
23:18.50dylanm_Someone more involved in the planning fill me in here... is Ace3 going to go down the whole AceOptions -> DewDrop -> Waterfall track?
23:18.54MoonWitchlet's hope that works m4rku5
23:18.57orionshock... cladhaire don't get me started on you...
23:19.02cladhaireexcuse me>?
23:19.08cladhaireyou don't have shit 1 to say about me.
23:19.16the-golemam i the only one that thinks *no offense ckknight* that /slashcommands should be the only *required* config method and that having a GUI/menu  by default is .. wrong?
23:19.23orionshocktrue...
23:19.39ckknightthe-golem: I take offense!
23:19.41dylanm_Anyone?
23:19.43ckknight(not really)
23:19.46the-golemlol
23:19.50ZhinjioI can't stand slash commands.
23:19.51MoonWitchI always hated slash commands, solely because I can't remember jack shit - thus the slashes neither
23:19.52m4rku5the-golem, same for me ;) and if your /slashcmd = AceOptions then you get a menu for free
23:19.54Zhinjiopersonally
23:20.02Dustwhisperslash commands should be optional, GUI should be required
23:20.17orionshockno no no no
23:20.20the-golemno
23:20.21Dustwhisperslash commands only make sense in a commandbased environment which a game like WOW is not and it's counterintuitive
23:20.21Shirikwow
23:20.23MoonWitchif you have slash commands only .. does rock/niagara pick it up?
23:20.25ckknightthe-golem: basically, I think the gui should be the standard, slash commands are a poor man's gui. Granted, slash commands are good for small, quick things as well as scriptability
23:20.50orionshockEACH ADDON SHOULD CONSIDER IT'S OWN CONFIG METHOD.
23:20.50Shirikagreed
23:20.51orionshockit slash commands work - it works
23:20.51MoonWitch2nded
23:20.51dylanm_I'm more of the mind that automatic config generation is nice for when you're testing an addon (cf. rails) but beyond that there should be some thought put into it.
23:20.51ckknightI might add a scripting interface to LibRockConfig-1.0 later.
23:20.51ShirikEach addon knows best
23:20.54orionshockif a GUI is needed, then a pregen might work
23:21.00the-golembasically what i mean is
23:21.09orionshockif it's Complicated and you can't make a preGen then shit a brick and make one yourself
23:21.10ShirikLinux doesn't go and say "Hey you have to accept these command line arguments" or "You have to have this menu here"
23:21.12MoonWitchckknight, yay!
23:21.19the-golem"oops i forgot to install dewdrop" == still works, just no dropdown menu
23:21.27the-golemfor example
23:21.30ShirikNo, it passes the arguments to main when needed, and it provides functionality to create a menu
23:21.37ShirikWindows is the same
23:21.51MoonWitchlinux gives you options, a whole lot of them, use commandline without x, use gnome, kde, xfce, icewm, whatever else I am forgetting.. blackbox fluxbox
23:22.16the-goleme16/17
23:22.22the-golem:-)
23:22.30ShirikBut it doesn't force any of them on you
23:22.34Shirikit merely provides the funcitonality
23:22.40Shirikthe app decides how to take it
23:22.51the-golemriiiiiiight
23:23.01the-golemthanks for saying what i was too inept to do
23:23.02the-golem:-)
23:23.18MoonWitchha golem .. I hardly know what inept means ;) you got one on me
23:23.19dylanm_I don't want to call certain configs I've seen out but really, shoehorning everything into a predefined system has its own hazards. I understand the view that libraries are there to make developer lives easier and there are a lot of other areas of coding where they all do so, but good config has never been easy.
23:23.48MoonWitchthe issue with configs and all is that you just can't please everyone out there.
23:23.51the-goleminept = unable *sorta*
23:23.56the-golemrather
23:23.56Shirik~dict inept
23:23.59MoonWitchyou'll always have people who like it and who dislike it
23:24.00the-golemnot skilled enough
23:24.10MoonWitchit's ok - I know what it means ;) could get it from the context
23:25.07the-golems'ok, someone used "postfix" in another channel earlier, and i was like, buhhh? *pause* ooooh, suffix, gotcha
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23:26.20dylanm_MoonWitch: I'm not saying that there's one right way to do it, but I think that a lot of the automatic ways are clearly wrong in that they're going to feel wrong to most people.
23:26.50MoonWitchOh I do understand, and to a large extend I agree dylanm_
23:27.26dylanm_I'm not sure what you expect to happen with this match.
23:28.01kaiden^i've always wanted one!
23:28.04Solegood morning
23:28.06Shiriklol
23:28.06Sole"if you could fix antagonist for the new WoW frame positioning system we'd be grateful. until you or someone else does anchor positions will not save."
23:28.14Solewtf is the new frame positioning system?
23:28.21the-golembtw ckknight, hi :-)
23:28.31dylanm_Sole: In which frames are anchored to the nearest corner.
23:28.59Soleand why the hell did they decide to do that?
23:29.00cncfanaticsSole, frames anchored to the nearest corner, if ur just doing GetPoint to get positions ur fucked
23:29.02dylanm_Sole: And not just the top-left as has been tradition and I believe the practice of the default UI whenever it allows you to position something.
23:29.17Mecdemorthmm when i enable prat timestamps i get timestamps twice, any idea?
23:29.27Solesoo they like shoving a barbed wire covered club up my ass?
23:29.40MoonWitchI wonder why no one ever wrote a dang tutorial on NOT using xml, only use lua.. gah... back to illustrator...
23:29.54dylanm_Sole: Sometimes you change resolutions. Happens to me all the time on my Mac when I go from fullscreen to windowed. In windowed the thing has to resize to allow for the menubar and the dock dead-space.
23:29.55MoonWitchSole, perhaps they think you'll like it (what's the topic again?)
23:30.32dylanm_Sole: They seem loathe to just scale the window. There may be good reasons for that.
23:30.32the-golemlol
23:30.43SoleGOOD REASONS!?
23:30.46SoleI DONT CARE
23:30.48SoleWAAAH
23:30.52dylanm_MoonWitch: Huh?
23:30.54Sole<PROTECTED>
23:31.01dylanm_MoonWitch: Like, for addons?
23:31.05Soleis it special candy?
23:31.09MoonWitchdylanm_, yeah
23:31.14m4rku5MoonWitch, heh if you ever find a tutorial on doing GUIs with lua only gimme the url ;)
23:31.15MoonWitchSole, it's ruffies :P
23:31.30dylanm_MoonWitch: The xml has its place, I think.
23:31.49Zhinjiothe-golem: postfix is actually not a suffic, per se. Its the name of a mathematical notationi n which the operator appears after the operands.
23:31.57CIA-12tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r591 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/37_37_Thousand_Needles.lua:
23:31.57CIA-12tekkub-wow: TourGuide:
23:31.57CIA-12tekkub-wow:  - Completed Thousand Needles (37-37)
23:31.58Zhinjioeg, 3 5 +
23:32.18the-golemZhinjio: indeed, but that wasnt the context he was using in
23:32.20MoonWitchm4rku5, I've been trying crap all day today, WoW UI Designer is horrible. Wiritng it by hand is ok, but confusing like mad. Using Lua only, and the CreateFrame api disallows the use of the OnLoad function in which people recommend writing the slashcommands
23:32.20dylanm_RPN!
23:32.31dylanm_I love those HP calculators that do that.
23:32.45ZhinjioI always liked postfix.
23:32.49Zhinjio*shrug*
23:32.59dylanm_It's a lot easier to enter expressions with it, for me.
23:33.22the-golemZhinjio: not that there was anythign wrong with it, i'm just not used to seeing it used
23:33.26MoonWitchbrb .. although bbiab gonna shower :)
23:33.35the-golems'why my mind blanked for like 5 seconds
23:33.37Zhinjioyup, just wanted to be clear.
23:33.42the-golem:-)
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23:36.19Recluse|zZzis the new outdated category in WAU just those with pre 20200 TOC files?
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23:38.11siIentiumRecluse: according to the official forum thread, yes
23:38.39Mecdemortwhat would make prat do 2 time stamps on some events but not all?
23:39.06Antiarc|LaptopGreetings from San Jose.
23:39.40Dezzimalhot enough for ya?
23:39.52the-golem...
23:40.04the-golemsan jose is practically bay area
23:40.08the-golemshouldnt be hot at all
23:40.10the-golem^^
23:40.17Dezzimalits hot by comparison to where I am
23:40.22the-golemand where is that?
23:40.29Dezzimalnunavut
23:42.30Xelopheris...
23:42.37XelopherisI'm sorry.
23:42.52Dezzimaleh?
23:43.12Xelopherisso iqualuit or somewhere else?
23:43.35Dezzimalyea
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23:43.37cncfanaticsg'night ppl, logging out
23:43.53Antiarc|LaptopIt's like 70F right now
23:43.54Antiarc|LaptopIt's awesome
23:44.16Xelopherisit's only like, 15C here right now
23:44.34Pkekyo" i shifted my internal organs to avoid the knife"
23:44.36CIA-1203grum 07WIP * r51205 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/ (Cartographer_Routes.toc Core.lua embeds.xml):
23:44.36CIA-12Cartographer_Routes:
23:44.36CIA-12- Conversion to Rock completed
23:44.36CIA-12- Tossed code around to get similar layout as bundled Cartographer modules.
23:44.52DezzimalI don't think I've ever seen it hotter than 24C here
23:45.30XelopherisO_o
23:45.30Dezzimalthats uh
23:45.32XelopherisI'm jealous
23:45.47Dezzimal75F
23:46.04PkekyoDezzimal: where?
23:46.04XelopherisIt was frikkin 40C for a week down here this summer
23:46.19CIA-1203xinhuan * r51206 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.lua):
23:46.19CIA-12WoWEquip: - Set AddWidth default to 15 instead of 0.
23:46.19CIA-12- Fix a minor cosmetic bug.
23:46.19CIA-12- Add a beta status message requesting for help on data collection.
23:46.22Dezzimaliqualuit, Nunavut
23:46.25DezzimalCanadia
23:46.59Pkekyoiqualuit, Nunavut would mean nothing or less to anyone not living 'round there...you ought to stick with Canada :p
23:47.04orionshocklua> tonumber("10/10")
23:47.07orionshockbah
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23:47.38Xelopherisjust gotta say "arctic circle" to be really specific
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23:47.45Dezzimaliqaluit* sry
23:47.49Dezzimalthat happens
23:48.54orionshock? tonumber(date("%m/%d")) = nil?
23:49.34the-golemlol
23:49.36Xinhuanyou can't tonumber() anything that isn't a number
23:49.37Dezzimalat least we have broadband now lol
23:49.46orionshock?
23:49.57orionshockim gona have to regex it out ...
23:49.58Xinhuanmeaning tonumber("123/123") is nil because of invalid characters in it
23:50.00Xinhuansuch as "/"
23:50.42orionshockthen what's the point of tonumber?
23:50.47the-golemumm
23:51.02the-golemdo you mean integer?
23:51.05orionshockif it dosn't stip those ones out
23:51.18Xinhuanyour string must be a valid number
23:51.22Xinhuanor it will fail
23:51.32Xinhuantonumber("123...456") will be nil
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23:51.35Xinhuannot 123
23:51.42cladhairelua> tonumber("123...456")
23:51.43cladbotcladhaire: nil,
23:51.50Xinhuansee? :)
23:52.11the-golemorionshock: to convert from a numeric string, to an "int"
23:52.49the-golemusefull for pulling values from a file for example, because its all a big long string
23:52.58Xelopheristonumber converts a string that has nothing but ascii characters between 0x30 and 0x39 to 0x00 through 0x09. IT doesn't parse equations
23:53.19orionshockmift
23:53.26the-golemyeah
23:53.29the-golemyou'
23:53.30orionshockworthless function
23:53.34the-golemd need to do maths first
23:53.53the-golemif its a fraction
23:53.59backbonecnc, in the AceEvent lib the empty dictionary is solved by following code: if not next(table) then ... end
23:54.05the-golembut its a string .. so imma shutup
23:54.08Xinhuanyou can loadstring() your equation if you need to ;p
23:54.22Xinhuanassuming you really want to do a division
23:54.59orionshockno i just want that f'n slash out..
23:55.07orionshockooh i know... i just add another table reference
23:55.12Xinhuanthen just do a gsub "/" ""
23:55.36orionshocklua> gsub("/", "10/10")
23:55.36cladbotorionshock: /, 0,
23:55.46orionshock?
23:56.01dylanm_Wrong order.
23:56.11Xinhuanlua> gsub("10/10", "/", "")
23:56.11cladbotXinhuan: 1010, 1,
23:56.15Xinhuanlike that
23:56.38orionshockwhat's the extra "" for?
23:56.41Xinhuanthe second return from gsub is the number of replacements made
23:56.46Xinhuanbecause "" is not the same as nil
23:56.58Xinhuanlua> gsub("10/10", "/")
23:56.58cladbotXinhuan: [string "gsub("10/10", "/")"]:1: bad argument #3 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected)
23:57.59Xelopheristhird argument clad
23:58.19Xelopherisgsub("10/10", "/", "")
23:58.34cladhairehuh?
23:58.37XelopherisOriginal string, then what you want replaced, then what you want to replace it with
23:58.50cladhairewhy are you talking ot me?
23:59.08Xelopheriscladbot, not cladhaire
23:59.16cladhairewell cladbot is a bot.. why are you talking to it?
23:59.16hyperChipmunk...
23:59.19Xelopheriserm
23:59.27XelopherisI'm an idiot
23:59.33cladhairei wouldn't go that far :P
23:59.45hyperChipmunklua> "Xelopheris, you're a moron."
23:59.45cladbothyperChipmunk: Xelopheris, you're a moron.
23:59.46Xelopheristhere's definitely a few empty beers next to my ribs :P
23:59.57Xelopherisah

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