| 00:00.26 | charon | so, another go at it: is there an addon that lets me save and load complete button assignments? |
| 00:00.28 | charon | btw, Antiarc: have you seen/read my msgs? |
| 00:00.43 | JoshBorke | charon: don't think so |
| 00:00.45 | Antiarc | Yeah. Taking a peek at it now |
| 00:00.52 | JoshBorke | charon: flexbar2 might do it |
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| 00:01.31 | charon | i've got a complete working setup with BT3, but i've just tried arena healing and the respecs will drive me crazy :( |
| 00:02.30 | Ether_Man | Anyone with any idea of how to get a list of all addons, that depend on a specific library? Sort of reverse dependancy thing :) |
| 00:02.37 | Diao | saving and loading preset buttons for talent respecs would be amazing |
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| 00:02.58 | Diao | it's the longest part of respeccing :( |
| 00:03.00 | kaiden | man i wish caithlyn would upload her latest ui :( |
| 00:03.06 | kaiden | i just can't replicate it exactly |
| 00:03.13 | Ether_Man | Bizz is working on keybinding presets so even if no mod is avail currently it will be avail in the future :) |
| 00:03.46 | Diao | well not keybindings |
| 00:03.49 | Diao | i mean like |
| 00:03.52 | kaiden | Ether_Man, uhm, what?! |
| 00:03.54 | Diao | when i go from arms or fury to prot |
| 00:04.03 | kenlyric | not even just respecs... like when my priest needs to do damage. |
| 00:04.05 | Diao | i have to put last stand, conc blow, devastate, shield slam etc |
| 00:04.10 | Diao | into the right buttons |
| 00:04.16 | Diao | and then when i spec back i have to put the buttons back again |
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| 00:04.21 | Ether_Man | Or button assignment on the onscreen buttons? |
| 00:04.21 | Diao | templating it would be awesome |
| 00:04.28 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:04.42 | matts | Ether_Man, keybinding presets will rock! |
| 00:04.52 | Ether_Man | That cant be done by mod no matter how you try because they are saved serverwise and are "safe" so cant be tampered with by mods |
| 00:04.57 | Diao | yea |
| 00:05.08 | Diao | i mean if it was something like talented |
| 00:05.14 | Diao | where you could have templates and just "apply" them to your bars |
| 00:05.25 | kaiden | Ether_Man, that only applies to the default 120 buttons |
| 00:05.29 | kenlyric | for bar one, I just switch to bar 9, but i haven't tried it with bar 2. |
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| 00:05.41 | kaiden | a lot of bar mods these days are using SecureButtons which aren't saved server side |
| 00:06.30 | Ether_Man | kaiden, if you go beyond those 120 buttons, your buttons are not "safe" and then you wont be allowed to use those buttons in combat |
| 00:06.51 | Ether_Man | SecureButtons are saved serverside.. That's the whole thing about secure buttons |
| 00:07.49 | Ether_Man | Non secure buttons are not saved serverwise because nonsecure can be used for anything and can be contaminated.. They're not much if they are but securebuttons cannot |
| 00:09.48 | Fin | there are some silly limits in WoW, I think |
| 00:10.03 | Fin | the friends and ignore list limits are the worst I think |
| 00:10.18 | kaiden | yeah the ignore list was a pain in the ass when tbc came out |
| 00:10.40 | Fin | the friends list is a bit annoying when you've been in more than one guild |
| 00:10.42 | kaiden | i was one of the first few draenei to 70 and had over 750 people on ignore |
| 00:10.47 | kaiden | thanks to the IgnoreMore addon :) |
| 00:10.51 | Fin | it's not possible to keep track of all your friends and friends alts and stuff |
| 00:11.00 | Fin | it's not a proper ignore though :( |
| 00:11.07 | kenlyric | and the fact that there isn't a watch list apart from the friends list. |
| 00:11.23 | Fin | I mean, 50? |
| 00:11.44 | Fin | surely they can spare a bit more hard drive space |
| 00:11.54 | kenlyric | the game as a whole needs an easier way to track alts. |
| 00:11.58 | Fin | or whatever resources are being used up |
| 00:12.02 | Fin | hey no shit ken! |
| 00:12.06 | Megalon | would be nice to have a friendslist like in Diablo2 |
| 00:12.11 | Fin | that's the reason I wrote AltNames |
| 00:12.15 | kenlyric | but there are tons of people I want to keep track of, but not be notified everytime they signon. |
| 00:12.15 | Fin | and I'm lazy man, serious |
| 00:12.16 | Megalon | adding the account to friendslist |
| 00:12.20 | Ether_Man | It's not drivespace but number of db lookups they wish to cut down.. |
| 00:12.22 | Megalon | not the char |
| 00:12.27 | kenlyric | Fin: altnames isn't automatic, tough it is nice. |
| 00:12.27 | Fin | my AltNames list has about 700 people linked |
| 00:12.34 | Fin | or 700 characters linked, at least |
| 00:12.36 | kenlyric | though. |
| 00:12.41 | kaiden | yeah i never understood why ignore didn't work on an account level |
| 00:12.47 | kaiden | it would have solved sooo many problems |
| 00:12.55 | kenlyric | the same reason friends don't. |
| 00:13.10 | kenlyric | the same reason the armory doesn't.... so forum trolls can hide :) |
| 00:13.11 | Fin | yeah, know, and there's lots of stuff it should do which I haven't bothered, there's no decent UI, etc. but my genetic mutative disease, it's harsh man, real harsh |
| 00:13.14 | kaiden | to reduce the amount of lookups to the db on the backend side? |
| 00:13.43 | Fin | although one thing I think I am going to get around to adding is hooking it into system messages a bit more |
| 00:14.00 | Fin | I'd like to see who someone's main is is when they log on, and in /who output |
| 00:14.21 | Ether_Man | kaiden, well.. think of doing a db lookup for a char every time that char recieves a message.. now imagine getting back a dataset of 700 names each time.. now imagine the load of doing so for all chars on a server :) |
| 00:14.27 | kenlyric | yeah, my friends' list would be 1/3 the size if it did accounts and not chars. Also if it stored server wide instead of by character. |
| 00:14.47 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 00:15.50 | Megalon | or they could make it like |
| 00:15.58 | Megalon | when it's mutual, it's account wise |
| 00:15.58 | Fin | ice cream |
| 00:16.00 | [gk]Hotphoenix | has anyone considered a mod that syncs multiple peoples tradeskills, so you can find people with certain enchants/recipes without asking around? |
| 00:16.00 | Fin | like ice cream |
| 00:16.04 | Megalon | or like ice cream |
| 00:16.13 | Fin | I love ice cream |
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| 00:16.31 | Megalon | i love wiener schnitzel! |
| 00:16.45 | Fin | is that battered sausage? |
| 00:16.50 | Fin | or just hotdoggery? |
| 00:16.54 | Megalon | :< |
| 00:17.01 | Fin | what? serious question! |
| 00:17.17 | charon | goodnight |
| 00:17.21 | Fin | really |
| 00:17.26 | kenlyric | i wish the armory at least gave the choice of linking alts. like every other mmo web character interface does. |
| 00:17.27 | Sinaloit | kemayo: You forgot to update the TOCs for the modules of prat that get pulled out with WAU |
| 00:17.27 | Megalon | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_Schnitzel |
| 00:17.28 | Megalon | eat it! |
| 00:17.49 | Fin | yeah yeah I could've done that too! I would've if you hadn't answered, and now I will anyway :) |
| 00:18.00 | Fin | oh, right |
| 00:18.06 | Megalon | well, i have not clue how to describe wiener schnitzel |
| 00:18.07 | Sinaloit | Kemayo: er not prat, auldlangsyne |
| 00:18.10 | Megalon | in english |
| 00:18.12 | Fin | I thought wiener referred to a sausage type food |
| 00:18.13 | Megalon | :c |
| 00:18.30 | Megalon | ah yea, the germans refer to a sausage type as wiener |
| 00:18.38 | Megalon | which we austrians refer to as frankfurter |
| 00:18.42 | Megalon | :c |
| 00:18.53 | Sole | I prefer eating frankfurters |
| 00:18.54 | Ether_Man | Megalon, actually they're not allowed to make it like that :) French laws are made so that all information regarding you or your works.. are to be regarded personal information.. Furthermore, personal information cannot be given to anyone else without prior permission from the person in question.. So unless you give specific permission for someone to see who your main is.. Blizz is in no way allowed to give that information out |
| 00:19.00 | Sole | I feel less gay |
| 00:19.02 | Fin | I've heard it those things called schnitzels before though, it's one of the... what's the word for a food tha oh yeah staple foods in the Czech Republic |
| 00:19.05 | Fin | that and fried cheese |
| 00:19.06 | Sole | not that theres anything wrong with being gay |
| 00:19.07 | Stanzilla2 | Megalon: shush you! wiener is correct :D |
| 00:19.08 | EKS | http://i24.tinypic.com/2dtu48y.png <-- What is the best way to make a custom GUI like this? ( Those round bars) Perhaps someone has allready made one thats very small and i can easly modify |
| 00:19.11 | Sole | I just dont want to be eating a weiner |
| 00:19.27 | Fin | Ether_Man: so the armoury is illegal? |
| 00:19.28 | Ether_Man | EKS, that's ArcHUD |
| 00:19.44 | Sole | EKS, HUDs arent the most simple of things to create :P |
| 00:19.49 | Fin | there's nothing wrong with being gay |
| 00:19.51 | Ether_Man | Fin, no because you cannot connect each char with eachother.. there's no connection it reveals |
| 00:19.56 | Fin | are weiners and wieners different? |
| 00:20.01 | Sole | did I say there was anything wrong with being gay? |
| 00:20.03 | Sole | noooo |
| 00:20.13 | Fin | Ether_Man: yeah, but you still can't connect a group of characters with a person |
| 00:20.20 | Fin | neither did I Sole |
| 00:20.29 | Sole | Fin: youre implying it |
| 00:20.29 | Fin | actually I think we both said something to the opposite |
| 00:20.44 | Fin | Sole: now that's putting words in my mouth (not penises!) |
| 00:20.58 | Sole | Fin: you put them there! (the penises) |
| 00:21.00 | Sole | kekek lol |
| 00:21.03 | Megalon | you are both gays who pretend to be straight and not against being gay? |
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| 00:21.08 | Fin | if you were gay, and you wanted to put a penis in my mouth, I wouldn't mind your desire, although I wouldn't let you |
| 00:21.11 | Megalon | :7 |
| 00:21.17 | Fin | I'm not gay |
| 00:21.20 | Sole | Megalon: you just admitted to being gay |
| 00:21.23 | Sole | FAGLOL |
| 00:21.27 | Fin | LOL |
| 00:21.32 | Ether_Man | Fin, by playing the game you give them permission to show your character.. It's implied permission.. You cant play the game without giving them that right and you are playing so you do give them the right |
| 00:21.36 | Sole | c wut i did thar? |
| 00:21.40 | EKS | Ether_Man, yes i know. But ArcHUD has bugs. And i want to change it so it fits my needs |
| 00:22.05 | EKS | Basicly im wondering if there is some lib, that does these nice bars. That i can fairly easly use |
| 00:22.05 | Ether_Man | But showing who your alts are is not essential for you to play so you're not automaticly giving them that permission |
| 00:22.12 | Fin | Ether_Man: so how does that relate to the difference between showing a character's information, and showing a character's information and saying it's linked to another character? |
| 00:22.31 | Ether_Man | Fin, read last respons :) |
| 00:22.36 | Fin | showing any information about you is not essential for your play |
| 00:22.45 | Fin | we got along fine without the armoury |
| 00:22.55 | Fin | godammit I hate this american spellings in the EU version of the game |
| 00:22.57 | Fin | hate! |
| 00:22.59 | kaiden | Sole, no more of that please :) |
| 00:23.20 | Ether_Man | No but you have given permission to show your character.. That's all they need.. |
| 00:23.21 | Sole | kaiden: Im messing around :P |
| 00:23.29 | Fin | Ether_Man: no I didn't |
| 00:23.33 | Sole | ~fail Fin |
| 00:23.34 | purl | Fin: Fail. |
| 00:23.45 | Ether_Man | Fin, so you're not playing the game? |
| 00:23.46 | Fin | Ether_Man: I didn't say shit about telling people what my reputation is or what skills I've got |
| 00:23.58 | Sole | hay I like the armory |
| 00:24.02 | Sole | if you dont like it that much |
| 00:24.09 | Fin | "you are giving them explicit permission" "no I'm not" "you're not playing their game" what? |
| 00:24.10 | Sole | just use closetgnome and go nekkid before you log out |
| 00:24.12 | Sole | problem solved |
| 00:24.24 | Fin | you're right, that's it |
| 00:24.30 | Fin | I do use ClosetGnome btw |
| 00:24.33 | Fin | ooh! that reminds me |
| 00:24.41 | Fin | saw a module I wanted to install |
| 00:24.49 | Fin | Ether_Man, actually, forget it, you're right, sorry |
| 00:24.51 | Fin | I'm wrong |
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| 00:25.09 | Ether_Man | Fin, I told you.. By playing the game you've automaticly implied you are giving them permission for that character because permission to show that character is essential to how the game works |
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| 00:25.29 | Fin | arg! must... not... can't... hold... back... much... longer |
| 00:26.05 | Ether_Man | There's still nothing that grants them permission to give information on any LINK between any other character you might have |
| 00:26.06 | Fin | hey look! baby wolf! |
| 00:26.18 | Fin | right, you're correct absolutement, k |
| 00:26.32 | Fin | bon |
| 00:28.38 | Godzmack | does anyone know what msg pops up in combat log when poisons fade from weapons or if it does at all? :o |
| 00:28.44 | Gnarfoz | actually, there doesn't need to be, because they own the characters :P |
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| 00:28.50 | Fin | do you not have Combat logs enabled? |
| 00:28.53 | Fin | they're useful for this sort of shit |
| 00:29.06 | Fin | -shift |
| 00:29.15 | Ether_Man | Gnarfoz, legally they dont.. EULA isnt a legally binding contract |
| 00:29.15 | kenlyric | yeah, you don't have to give them permission to do anything with chars. |
| 00:29.57 | Ether_Man | and EULA is the only thing stating any user is giving them the data.. Any data you enter is your data and noone elses until you've signed it over on a legally binding contract |
| 00:30.09 | Fin | just listen to Ether_Man dude, you can tell by the fire in his eyes he's not going to back down - and therefore correct |
| 00:30.34 | kenlyric | user doesn't give them any data. |
| 00:30.39 | kenlyric | the data is all theirs. |
| 00:30.51 | Fin | seriously |
| 00:31.03 | Fin | you will lose this argument in one of two ways - possibly both |
| 00:31.22 | Fin | you will either a) be proved wrong or b) die of fatigue |
| 00:31.24 | Ether_Man | kenlyric, not according to french laws |
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| 00:31.35 | kenlyric | yeah yeah, french. pfft |
| 00:31.38 | Ether_Man | you entered it, your data |
| 00:31.48 | Fin | ... into their game |
| 00:31.50 | Gnarfoz | you didn't enter shit besides your name |
| 00:31.52 | Fin | allez! |
| 00:31.53 | kenlyric | what do you enter, besides the name? |
| 00:31.53 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 00:31.59 | Ether_Man | kenlyric, blizz eu is based in france and follow french laws |
| 00:32.02 | kenlyric | otherwise you're just receiving it all. |
| 00:32.03 | Fin | this game is just one big data entry app |
| 00:32.31 | Kemayo | Sinaloit: You are right -- I'll get that. |
| 00:32.40 | Kody- | http://www.curse.com/articles/details/3240/ Interview with Cladhaire - last in the series for our 2.2 portal:D |
| 00:32.41 | Gnarfoz | Ether_Man: even so, you don't enter anything. a choice between a multitude of their data is not "data" you generated |
| 00:32.43 | Ether_Man | kenlyric, everything you do ingame enters data into the database.. HOW you enter that data is quite irrelevant |
| 00:32.44 | Kemayo | World of Spreadsheets! |
| 00:33.42 | Kody- | So the question from here is: is there any interest to keep this going? People have seemed to enjoy reading the interviews so I'd definitely keep it going if there's enough interest from the author community |
| 00:33.49 | Godzmack | Fin: currently have simplecombatlog and it doesnt show :p |
| 00:33.52 | Ether_Man | Gnarfoz, so if you have a basic standard database app where you enter a name.. and active/disabled.. then only the name part would be owned by the one entering the data? No :) all data is owned by whoever entered it unless some contract states otherwise |
| 00:34.14 | Fin | Godzmack: you haven't even *tried* logging combat, have you |
| 00:34.15 | Fin | tut tut |
| 00:34.24 | Fin | try: /combatlog |
| 00:34.54 | Fin | then go look in the Logs subdir of your WoW folder |
| 00:35.00 | Fin | after logging out |
| 00:35.02 | Fin | and having a fight |
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| 00:35.06 | Fin | in the reverse order |
| 00:35.20 | Fin | then dance! |
| 00:35.41 | Fin | argh! argh! ye gods! |
| 00:35.43 | kenlyric | Ether_Man: if this were all true, the armory itself wouldn't be legal. linking chars together is an unnecessary complication of the issue. |
| 00:35.55 | Fin | I just tried the game without any addons installed! make it stop! arg! |
| 00:36.03 | Ackis | lol @ fin |
| 00:36.09 | kenlyric | it's ugly and fast. |
| 00:36.15 | kenlyric | like your prom date |
| 00:36.20 | Fin | you bitch |
| 00:36.30 | Ackis | 2 points to kenlyric |
| 00:36.39 | Fin | how did you know... unless it was you! you whore! and give me back my keys! |
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| 00:36.55 | Godzmack | ill try that thank you Fin! |
| 00:37.03 | Fin | my pleasure |
| 00:37.18 | Fin | hope I wasn't too narky |
| 00:37.35 | Ether_Man | kenlyric, I cant speak for legallity as that requires a bit of interpretation of the laws there that's quite in the gray.. Thing is the laws state you can imply permission by using a service that requires that data to be shown.. And by playing you are giving that implied permission for your character.. The question would be if that implied right gives them the right to also publish that data for anyone or just in ways that are nee |
| 00:37.59 | Fin | that really annoys me, without having someone to blame except myself - getting grotty with someone only to receive a nice reasonable reply |
| 00:38.08 | Fin | I hate being reminded that I can be a dick sometimes |
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| 00:38.29 | kenlyric | Ether_Man: well, no game *forces* you to link your chars together in their web-based armory thingy. But the option would be nice. |
| 00:38.32 | Fin | and, the thing is, it would've been *okay* to have been a dick if you hadn't got that nice reasonable reply |
| 00:38.36 | Ackis | always remember Fin, you are what you eat |
| 00:38.50 | Fin | I fuckin hope not in any sense other than biologically |
| 00:38.57 | Fin | anyway |
| 00:39.11 | Fin | ken, please, this is so stupid just admit you're wrong! |
| 00:39.21 | Fin | my life force is ebbing low |
| 00:39.27 | Godzmack | alittle fin but it was stupid of me not to alittle "google research" :p |
| 00:39.36 | Fin | no dude! |
| 00:39.43 | Fin | oh wait, sorry, never mind |
| 00:40.05 | Fin | (now say, "see what?" and we're golden) |
| 00:40.12 | Ether_Man | kenlyric, Yea but noone has given them permission to link together chars.. character info by itself it needed for gameplay so you're giving them that permission but linking of chars isnt needed so that permission isnt given.. |
| 00:40.27 | Fin | you're my new friend, Godzmack :) |
| 00:40.28 | Fin | heh |
| 00:40.32 | Godzmack | haha |
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| 00:41.10 | Fin | for god's SAKE MAN how can you say that with a straight face - hand me that crack pipe immediately! |
| 00:41.34 | Fin | god I love crack |
| 00:41.54 | Ether_Man | kenlyric, I can also imagine that armory isnt legal and the only reason it's available is because blizz deems that should they be sued for it, the legal aftereffects would be small while the effects of revealing more information about a person would be more strict |
| 00:42.18 | kenlyric | Ether_Man: i defy you to find a legal difference between the two. until then, there's really no argument to be had. |
| 00:42.38 | kenlyric | there's crack? |
| 00:42.41 | kenlyric | I like crack. |
| 00:42.53 | Ether_Man | Legal diffrence is in what parts you've actually given permission to |
| 00:43.00 | Flexom | cycircled note: support for new autobar.... what new autobar? ^^ |
| 00:43.24 | Fin | you can't have any, it's mine |
| 00:43.35 | Fin | steal your own |
| 00:44.11 | Ether_Man | The armory only gives the same information to more people.. While linking would be giving more information to the same people.. That's quite a diffrence |
| 00:44.21 | Fin | no, no it's not |
| 00:44.26 | Fin | woo! that's just the drugs talking |
| 00:44.34 | Fin | christ I'm high |
| 00:44.59 | Fin | (you forgot about the rep levels and skills and talents and stuff, btw) |
| 00:45.29 | kenlyric | Fin, no! don't do it! |
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| 00:45.54 | Gnarfoz | yes, you can fly! |
| 00:46.01 | Fin | hooray! |
| 00:46.03 | Fin | pixies! |
| 00:46.06 | Gnarfoz | off a rooftop, preferably, I heard it's good to start up high |
| 00:46.20 | Fin | I shall start from HEAVEN! |
| 00:46.26 | Fin | I hear it's in... Europe somewhere |
| 00:46.34 | EKS | What editor are ppl here using for lua? |
| 00:46.35 | rob` | "armory isn't legel"? How on earth do you argue that? |
| 00:46.36 | Fin | hmm |
| 00:46.36 | Ether_Man | Fin, Im well aware of those.. I would speculate that since they are required for the actual gameplay.. Replevels determine what you can buy so it is required for the gameplay itself.. Thus would give them that permission.. |
| 00:46.42 | Fin | now that's not what I expected to happen |
| 00:46.45 | kenlyric | rob`: don't do it, it's a trap! |
| 00:46.51 | rob` | *runs away* |
| 00:47.04 | Ether_Man | rob`, read the entire discussion if you're intrested .) |
| 00:47.06 | kenlyric | i think you can only speculate out of your ass so many times before you come up with a nugget. |
| 00:47.07 | Fin | speculate all you... woo! is that... is that GOD? |
| 00:47.07 | rob` | yeah |
| 00:47.15 | Fin | dude! |
| 00:47.21 | Fin | dude I just saw GOD |
| 00:47.25 | rob` | I'll just say that as a guild recruiting officer, I love armory to little pieces for ever and ever amen. |
| 00:47.39 | Fin | yes but is that LEGAL |
| 00:47.49 | Ether_Man | Fin, all anyone can do is speculate.. everything in terms of legallity is about speculations.. |
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| 00:48.38 | Fin | (also, you can state, state categorically, repeat, shout, declare, and announce - but first, the crack) |
| 00:49.27 | EKS | http://www.koders.com <-- You guys should get them to index your svn servers |
| 00:50.00 | Fin | yes, my SVN servers are rather interesting |
| 00:50.08 | Fin | I shall ponder the matter |
| 00:50.33 | EKS | would be very nice for new coders to get exmpales when looking for something |
| 00:50.36 | Fin | now, who's stolen my crack? godammit! |
| 00:50.53 | Fin | if that was you again ken I swear I'll cut you |
| 00:51.35 | Fin | that guy's always after people's hard earned ooh I'm sleepy |
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| 00:53.12 | Fin | baby frogs! |
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| 00:54.55 | kenlyric | my nano this year needs to to have a high irc user. |
| 00:55.37 | kenlyric | and french lawyers. |
| 00:56.13 | kandarz | how can I truncate button text that is too long? such as like this with "..." http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9566/questlogsr3.jpg |
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| 00:58.53 | Matts | Hey Ether_Man, earlier, did you mean reinstalling the entire game to fix the translation issue? |
| 00:59.23 | Fin | if string.len(string) > toolong then string = string.sub( ... -- etc |
| 01:00.50 | kandarz | but I don't know how long is too long |
| 01:00.58 | kandarz | font size changes, fonts change |
| 01:01.10 | Fin | so what are you asking? |
| 01:01.14 | Fin | how can you know the unknowable? |
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| 01:01.21 | Fin | pray my friend, pray |
| 01:01.26 | kandarz | hmm |
| 01:01.28 | kandarz | okay |
| 01:01.36 | Fin | it doesn't help |
| 01:01.43 | Fin | but crack, on the other hand! |
| 01:01.48 | Fin | hoo boi |
| 01:01.57 | Fin | I got me some fine shit toDAY oh yes sir |
| 01:02.13 | Fin | one hit and - wait |
| 01:03.02 | Fin | now, what was the question? |
| 01:04.11 | Fin | where am I? |
| 01:04.21 | Fin | oh |
| 01:06.06 | dreamss | dare i ask, was clique in wau before? |
| 01:06.48 | Fin | yes |
| 01:06.51 | Fin | I mean, yes you dare ask |
| 01:07.02 | Fin | you just did! |
| 01:07.06 | Fin | hahah, clever me |
| 01:07.13 | dreamss | were it go :P |
| 01:07.27 | Fin | no idea, btw |
| 01:07.31 | Fin | want some crack? |
| 01:07.58 | Fin | wish I really *did* have some crack |
| 01:08.29 | Fin | would make chatting with myself so much more fun |
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| 01:10.07 | Tuller | lama |
| 01:11.06 | kandarz | http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4373/overlaphl7.jpg that's what I mean, I have truncated the names at 35 characters, but with different fonts they run over |
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| 01:16.39 | Gnarfoz | dreamss: don't think so |
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| 01:18.45 | sedai| | i want to customize windfuryFu's report text, How. |
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| 01:29.24 | RaydenUni | ooh new icon |
| 01:31.13 | Flexom | irk, assessment is quite the memory hog:p 6Mb without doing anything and with forced GC:p |
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| 01:31.42 | nevcairiel | its a stats addon |
| 01:31.45 | tinyboom | ye |
| 01:31.46 | nevcairiel | what did you expect |
| 01:31.48 | tinyboom | i know:p |
| 01:31.52 | JCinDE | grr stupid disconnects |
| 01:32.33 | ulic | it holds old data too if you don't clear it, that can eat a ton. |
| 01:32.35 | tinyboom | but an option to make it only load on raids/parties would have been nice:p only time It's really needed:) |
| 01:32.44 | tinyboom | did clear the data:p |
| 01:34.22 | NimbleRabit | Anyone know anything about proximo dissapearing? It says it's enabled and working but I don't see it on my screen anywhere |
| 01:34.44 | ulic | NimbleRabit: I deleted my SV for it, then it was fine. |
| 01:34.55 | ulic | I had the exact same issue though |
| 01:35.27 | NimbleRabit | I'll try |
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| 01:36.06 | NimbleRabit | been happening with me for Antagonist lately too |
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| 01:36.44 | ulic | I haven't used that one, don't know there. |
| 01:40.42 | hyperChipmunk | e |
| 01:40.53 | NimbleRabit | woah what happened with rock |
| 01:41.18 | NimbleRabit | omg this new thing is sexy |
| 01:42.48 | ulic | indeed it is |
| 01:43.13 | CIA-12 | 03trasher * r50420 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 01:43.13 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:43.13 | CIA-12 | - Update french |
| 01:46.43 | mikma | what's wrong with Klappa? |
| 01:49.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Mother Shahraz is kinda fun. |
| 01:51.03 | mikma | lol hypnotoad episode in futurama |
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| 02:03.43 | CIA-12 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50421 10TankPoints/ (TankPoints-Locale-enUS.lua TankPointsTooltips.lua): |
| 02:03.43 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 02:03.43 | CIA-12 | - Localized all changes to TankPointsTooltips |
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| 02:05.14 | Fathersin | evening folks |
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| 02:09.29 | ZealotOnAStick | did someone break the Mother Shahraz localizations? |
| 02:20.13 | aestil | nymbia: ping |
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| 02:28.03 | kebinusan | Solarian needs a you are the bomb whisper |
| 02:28.39 | kebinusan | or I need better guildmates |
| 02:28.48 | kebinusan | screaming on vent doesnt seem to do it |
| 02:29.47 | Antiarc | Things that tonks are awesome for: Kael phase 1 as a rogue. |
| 02:30.13 | _rane | http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8271/wowscrnshot081307203841ph3.jpg what addon is that in the upper left corner? |
| 02:30.15 | Antiarc | I use mine to pew pew Capernian |
| 02:30.18 | _rane | seen it few times |
| 02:30.36 | ZealotOnAStick | _rane: Grid |
| 02:30.47 | ZealotOnAStick | also some FuBar icons above that. |
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| 02:32.05 | _rane | ok, thanks |
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| 02:39.48 | Boobies4u | hi |
| 02:40.23 | Boobies4u | I am a chronometer users, but after the patch, and the update of the addon, chronometer isent "saving" the location of where i place the anchor, any ideas whats up? |
| 02:41.04 | Sole | I recommend you switch to ClassTimer |
| 02:41.11 | Sole | its a lot more accurate than chronometer |
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| 02:41.48 | Sole | AFAIK chronometer hasnt been updated to use the exact time returns added to the UnitDebuff/Buff functions in 2.2 |
| 02:42.25 | Arrowmaster | i thought classtimer just had timers for target/focus |
| 02:42.40 | Boobies4u | Ok, basicly all i want timers on is my totems, on my shaman, ais ClassTimer the way to go? |
| 02:42.48 | Arrowmaster | or does it keep them when you switch targets? |
| 02:43.03 | Boobies4u | for target timers, i use the built in Quartz timers |
| 02:43.26 | ZealotOnAStick | vhaar or funky or ammo around? |
| 02:43.30 | xyu | haha, yeah that chronometer issue is causing me some headache, because i'm the one that puts all the addons on my friends' computers. and they're all like "OMG i have cooldowns covering my whole screen" |
| 02:43.41 | ZealotOnAStick | OR anyone else who knows which module BigWigsCommonWords should be in? |
| 02:43.41 | xyu | so i have to tell them type /chron anchor >_< |
| 02:45.49 | Boobies4u | xyu |
| 02:46.03 | Boobies4u | i just updated chronometer right now, been an update sinec last night, and its fixed now |
| 02:46.10 | Boobies4u | or, atleast its saving the anchor spot for me now |
| 02:46.19 | Xinhuan | kebinusan: I wrote a 3 line mod to do that lol |
| 02:49.06 | Aens[T] | awww, jumping in the water in hyjal doesn't remove doomfire anymore :( |
| 02:50.19 | JoshBorke | fire burns hotter than the water? |
| 02:51.39 | Aens|Superiority | its really bad though because our entire strategy relied up on this :/ |
| 02:52.52 | aestil | what phase are you in now antiarc? |
| 02:54.13 | Antiarc | Working on the p2 -> p3 transition |
| 02:55.28 | Antiarc | We're hitting p3 with axe + shield up right now |
| 02:57.55 | Ackis | that's how it should be |
| 02:58.11 | Ackis | shield should die shortly after P3 starts, then axe just gets dotted up |
| 02:58.46 | Ackis | on a side note will: "AckisRecipeListFrame:SetPoint("RIGHT", TradeSkillFrame, 0, 0);" tie my frame to the tradeskill frame if it's shown? |
| 02:58.58 | kandarz | I'm doing keal too!, except my guild blows at it |
| 02:59.28 | Ackis | kael is a cock block |
| 02:59.31 | Ackis | hard fight and long |
| 02:59.40 | kandarz | I def go AFK during parts |
| 02:59.46 | kandarz | because I play a druid tank |
| 02:59.46 | Ackis | but once you kill him there's about 5 easy bosses in BT/Hyjal |
| 03:00.01 | kandarz | exactly, I'm tired of being stuck here |
| 03:00.15 | Ackis | if it takes longer than 3 weeks than get worried |
| 03:00.23 | kandarz | too late |
| 03:00.30 | kandarz | def going on like week 4 or 5 |
| 03:00.37 | Ackis | ahh |
| 03:00.44 | Fathersin | wish i could say i was stuck at some boss in BT/hyjal =/ |
| 03:01.04 | kandarz | ppl leave, new ppl join, have to reteach |
| 03:01.16 | Ackis | what's fn annoying is attuning new people |
| 03:01.23 | Ackis | had to do al'ar |
| 03:02.40 | Ackis | so back to my question about the frame... :D |
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| 03:03.53 | kandarz | it should tie it even if it's not shown |
| 03:04.18 | kandarz | you'd have to add some if shown before hand to only anchor it if shown |
| 03:04.35 | Ackis | if it's not shown will it error or just put it someplace randomly? |
| 03:04.51 | kandarz | no, it will move it just not show the tradeskill frame |
| 03:05.02 | kandarz | it will be moved reguardless |
| 03:05.51 | kandarz | tradeskill frame is loaded by default, just hidden, it's there so when you setpoint to it whatever frame you are setting will get moved |
| 03:06.05 | kandarz | but you should ClearAllPoints() first |
| 03:06.22 | Ackis | lol reloading UI during rage trash = not good lol... but it seems to be stuck to it, but at the centre |
| 03:06.44 | kandarz | yeah, right = middle right |
| 03:06.54 | kandarz | TopRight, BottomRight |
| 03:06.57 | kandarz | ect |
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| 03:08.18 | Ackis | ahh i can't do it right, right? isntead of middle right? |
| 03:08.19 | yssaril | is there anyway for a function to check which addon called said function? |
| 03:08.46 | xyu | hmm RapidCast\RapidCast.lua:302: Cannot find module "CastBar" anyway to fix this? |
| 03:09.20 | kandarz | play around with it in game, /script AckisRecipeListFrame:ClearAllPoints() AckisRecipeListFrame:SetPoint("RIGHT", TradeSkillFrame, 0, 0) |
| 03:09.42 | Ackis | ahh didn't know I could do that tbh |
| 03:09.43 | kandarz | just type that and change the SetPoint parameters until you find something you like |
| 03:10.02 | kandarz | no need to reloadui |
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| 03:11.44 | kadrahil | vithos: http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/august/arena3/hunter.jpg |
| 03:12.06 | kadrahil | gg with the human |
| 03:12.11 | Bibi | not approved by the webmaster, only rehosting. |
| 03:12.38 | vithos | kadrahil: LOL @ the shit they said about they wanted s3 to look unique |
| 03:12.38 | kadrahil | Bibi: oh |
| 03:12.38 | Bibi | the guy actually never replied to my PM asking how he got them |
| 03:12.39 | Bibi | I mean, how he figured out it was the pvp set |
| 03:12.53 | Bibi | at some point he claimed it was labeled as PvP in the game files, but couldn't find anything |
| 03:13.00 | kadrahil | heh |
| 03:13.13 | kadrahil | so you don't know if it's legit yet? |
| 03:14.55 | kadrahil | vithos: yeah seriously, you know it's just going to be recolored t6 again |
| 03:15.09 | kadrahil | vithos: and the stupid 2k rating for the shoulders.. :( |
| 03:17.44 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r50422 10BigWigs_DBMCustomBars/ (. BigWigs_DBMCustomBars.toc Core.lua): BigWigs_DBMCustomBars: Display Deadly Boss Mods timers in BigWigs. (Only tested with 3.0.) |
| 03:17.47 | vithos | kadrahil: well now i know, since you linked me the picture :P |
| 03:18.24 | kadrahil | vithos: :P |
| 03:18.24 | vithos | kadrahil: but anyway, doing solarian/can't chat much |
| 03:18.30 | kadrahil | vithos: oh, ok |
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| 03:26.26 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:29.03 | xyu | ni hao |
| 03:29.42 | Aens|Superiority | ugh, hate this undocumented change with archimonde. It just compounds the fundamental shift from all of the hyjal bosses prior :/ |
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| 03:31.10 | theoddone33 | why why why |
| 03:31.30 | theoddone33 | why would you take off a greater blessing of wisdom by casting blessing of wisdom (non-greater) on another paladin??? |
| 03:31.43 | theoddone33 | ooh, because it's improved... |
| 03:31.46 | theoddone33 | now I'm not quite as pissed |
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| 03:35.31 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50423 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:35.31 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 03:35.31 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 03:36.13 | Lukian | kek theoddone33 |
| 03:36.35 | smoke_ | anyone here have a problem with pitbull where it doesnt alpha the party frames that are out of range? |
| 03:36.59 | smoke_ | my range check is working on fine on all hostile units, but if the unit is friendly the range check isnt wroking.. is there some type of hidden setting? |
| 03:37.06 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 03:37.14 | theoddone33 | there was some module that got turned on accidentally |
| 03:37.38 | theoddone33 | turn off combatfader |
| 03:37.55 | smoke_ | turn off combatfader? |
| 03:38.05 | theoddone33 | it was my problem at least |
| 03:38.12 | theoddone33 | it might not be yours |
| 03:38.33 | vithos | wow solarian is easy now. except for when retards can't run out when they get a raid warning with their name on it, they glow blue, lightning is shooting out of them making black spots on the ground, they have a debuff ticking down, and they have a skull on their head |
| 03:38.53 | smoke_ | hmm |
| 03:38.55 | vithos | oh and a timer bar with their name on it |
| 03:39.00 | smoke_ | i just turned it on |
| 03:39.06 | smoke_ | but ill turn it off to see if anyhting happens |
| 03:39.10 | smoke_ | i turned it on and it didnt do anything heh |
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| 03:40.13 | sztanpet | ckknight the new rock rules, great job |
| 03:40.24 | sztanpet | the config i mean |
| 03:40.30 | ckknight | good times |
| 03:40.43 | ckknight | if you have any more usability suggestions, I'm willing to hear em |
| 03:40.48 | kandarz | how do I get Blizzard localization strings? |
| 03:40.57 | kandarz | like the file with all them in it |
| 03:41.06 | Fisker- | DUN DUN DUN DUN |
| 03:41.19 | Nerox | Anyone having a problem updating their mods? Most of the Mods I use are from WoWACE and when I go to update them. It says they're all updated. But when I check my Addons in-game it says that they're all out of date and when I click "Load out of date addons" none of them load or their's tons of errors. |
| 03:42.51 | kandarz | ckknight, you may be able to help me if you have a minute, this is my problem http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=overlaphl7.jpg Except that I've already truncated quest names to 35 characters when I use Calibri v1, but if I change it that happens |
| 03:42.55 | Lukian | Nerox, the toc's aren't updated just for the hell of it.. |
| 03:43.39 | ckknight | kandarz: not sure what you're referring to. that's not my addon |
| 03:44.04 | kandarz | I know, I'm trying to dynamicly truncate if the buttontext is too long, is that possible? |
| 03:44.45 | ckknight | kandarz: oh, just do :SetWidth or :SetPoint to make the width fixed |
| 03:46.46 | kandarz | I'm trying to add in an ellipsis also only if the name is too long, such as in this screenshot http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9566/questlogsr3.jpg |
| 03:46.56 | Xinhuan | ckknight: i'm finding that i sometimes accidentally "scroll" some sliders in Rock Config with the mousewheel, when i actually just wanted to scroll the right pane. then i have no idea what the original value of those sliders are... |
| 03:47.09 | ckknight | oh yea, need to fix that |
| 03:47.20 | ckknight | i.e. make scrolling pass through if the frame has been scrolled in the last second |
| 03:47.31 | CIA-12 | 03kemayo * r50424 10BigWigs_DBMCustomBars/Core.lua: BigWigs_DBMCustomBars: Add svn:keywords, remove stray acehook left over from debugging. |
| 03:47.35 | Xinhuan | looking forward to that fix! |
| 03:48.30 | ckknight | kandarz: just do what |
| 03:48.32 | ckknight | I said |
| 03:50.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Hey, ok, so, I know where a problem in BigWigs is . . . |
| 03:50.33 | ZealotOnAStick | and I think I -might- know the solution, but I'm not positive. |
| 03:50.48 | ZealotOnAStick | anyone here familiar enough with it for me to pester on it? |
| 03:50.49 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50425 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:50.49 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 03:50.49 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 03:50.57 | kandarz | ckknight, I see now, thanks :) |
| 03:51.40 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50426 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 03:51.40 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 : |
| 03:51.40 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 03:53.06 | Xinhuan | i love AV weekends |
| 03:53.08 | Xinhuan | instant queues |
| 03:54.29 | kandarz | free honor too |
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| 04:00.59 | Godzmack | ok woah, get a critical error everytime i try to change the font size in sctd |
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| 04:10.27 | kaiden | Any eePanels guru's here, i'm trying to mimic caiths frames in her latest shots and i'm assuming i need 3 panels for the chatframe, question though, since chatframe runs as background and level 1 is above it how can you have 3 frames under it? should i parent them to uiparent and anchor to chatframe 1? |
| 04:11.14 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50427 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 04:11.14 | CIA-12 | LibRockConfig-1.0: |
| 04:11.14 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 04:13.23 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50428 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 04:13.23 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 04:13.23 | CIA-12 | - More frames. I hate blizzard. |
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| 04:15.54 | kaiden | woah, nice someone made buffalo skinnable by cyCircled :) |
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| 04:19.09 | Neebler | ooo |
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| 04:28.49 | kaiden | sylvanaar, is there a way via prat to change the strata of a chatframe? |
| 04:29.01 | kaiden | i've been looking for it but i guess i'm either blind or it's not there :P |
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| 04:30.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Whee. |
| 04:30.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Tempest of Chaos with Soulfrost = mine. |
| 04:36.16 | kebinusan | sexy |
| 04:37.10 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50429 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - if scrolling and you hit a slider, it will no longer alter the slider's value, but just keep scrolling the pane. It has a 1-second buffer time to keep track of this. |
| 04:37.30 | Xinhuan | yay! |
| 04:39.02 | kandarz | whats the dogtag to just add space? |
| 04:39.34 | ckknight | ...nope |
| 04:39.56 | ckknight | you could use [white] to trick it |
| 04:41.13 | kandarz | hmm, not doing anything, just want to add some space before raid frame names |
| 04:41.27 | Fin | ckknight: nice changes to the rock config pane |
| 04:41.34 | ckknight | glad you like it |
| 04:41.42 | Fin | ckknight: can I request an "all" category though for selecting which addons are enabled? |
| 04:41.55 | ckknight | um, for FuBar? |
| 04:41.58 | Fin | yes, sorry |
| 04:42.08 | ckknight | ...okay |
| 04:42.11 | ckknight | make a jira ticket |
| 04:42.13 | Fin | OK |
| 04:42.38 | Fin | sometimes I can't find a plugin, and have to go through all the categories to make sure it's not hiding |
| 04:42.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Soulfrost, btw, is stupidly costly. |
| 04:43.01 | Xinhuan | get sunfire then :) |
| 04:43.05 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50430 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - save and restore the scroll of the main pane. |
| 04:44.57 | Fin | hmm, first time I've used jira. nice. |
| 04:46.14 | CIA-12 | 03stormfx * r50431 10cyCircled/plugins/ItemRack.lua: |
| 04:46.14 | CIA-12 | cyCircled: |
| 04:46.14 | CIA-12 | - ItemRack Updated! (N00bZXI) |
| 04:46.33 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50432 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - make editbox for sliders slightly bigger. |
| 04:47.49 | Fin | oh, tch, I pasted too much - is it possible to edit tickets? |
| 04:48.02 | Fin | I can't immediately see an edit link |
| 04:48.14 | Fin | probably not |
| 04:48.42 | Fin | I didn't allow edits in my bug tracker either :) |
| 04:51.43 | Fin | [06:42:13] < Fin> sometimes I can't find a plugin, and have to go through all the categories to make sure it's not hiding |
| 04:51.46 | Fin | oops |
| 04:51.47 | Silowyi | is there a way to delete an addon from the repository? |
| 04:51.50 | Fin | stupid mouse |
| 04:51.55 | Fin | svn delete |
| 04:52.39 | Silowyi | thx |
| 04:53.28 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r50433 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 04:53.47 | Silowyi | 2.3 might force me to finally replace CTMail, heh |
| 04:53.57 | Silowyi | or get rid of it altogether |
| 04:54.17 | Antiarc | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 04:54.34 | Silowyi | Antiarc why am I totally not surprised you read that |
| 04:54.43 | Antiarc | Because xkcd is awesome? |
| 04:54.59 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50434 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - make ScriptErrors a higher frame strata, above LibRockConfig-1.0's frame. |
| 04:55.07 | Silowyi | most of my friends don't understand 90% of those comics |
| 04:55.10 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc |
| 04:55.26 | ckknight | if I don't understand an xkcd comic, I make a point to |
| 04:56.17 | Silowyi | http://xkcd.com/18/ this is still my favorite one |
| 04:58.24 | Antiarc | Dear god make the bad Kael die. |
| 04:58.52 | Silowyi | There's a good and bad version of Kael? |
| 04:58.56 | Killmore2 | Antiarc: the mount drop from kael for us tonight |
| 04:59.03 | Silowyi | oh |
| 04:59.03 | Antiarc | Nice! |
| 04:59.06 | Silowyi | you mean Kael'thas |
| 04:59.16 | Fisker- | 6:) |
| 04:59.18 | Fisker- | :( |
| 04:59.25 | Antiarc | Yes, Kael'thas |
| 04:59.43 | Antiarc | The p3 transition is kicking our asses |
| 04:59.49 | Silowyi | so |
| 04:59.58 | Silowyi | we did week 2 of attempts on Morogrim this time |
| 05:00.02 | Silowyi | tonight |
| 05:00.31 | Killmore2 | Antiarc: let me bet, its always the same retard who die and let your raid wipe :P |
| 05:00.40 | Silowyi | we had to reteach our healers the meaning of "proactive healing" |
| 05:00.50 | Antiarc | No, we just haven't quite gotten it down yet |
| 05:01.03 | Antiarc | We're a bit slow in P3 |
| 05:01.10 | Antiarc | P4 is popping with 3 still up |
| 05:01.10 | Silowyi | MT was going 3-5 seconds with only HoT hots after a tidal wave... with only one healer in watery grave |
| 05:01.11 | Silowyi | wtf |
| 05:01.24 | Silowyi | HoT ticks* rather |
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| 05:01.34 | Killmore2 | Silowyi :( |
| 05:01.57 | kandarz | Antiarc, better then our guild, P4 with 4 up |
| 05:02.06 | Silowyi | Killmore2: this was after we attempted Solarian last night, and one of our warlocks was like "how the hell is this fight easy mood now it's like 5 times harder than before." |
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| 05:02.28 | Silowyi | easy mode* |
| 05:02.28 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50435 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 05:02.28 | CIA-12 | .BlackTemple : |
| 05:02.28 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 05:02.39 | Silowyi | ah |
| 05:02.41 | Silowyi | that reminds me |
| 05:02.47 | Silowyi | time to check for a dbm update |
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| 05:03.28 | pakoz | anyone know how to make quartz stop reseting the swing timer on sword procs? |
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| 05:09.11 | Antiarc | Sword procs reset the swing timer. |
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| 05:13.25 | liquidzoo | ugh...world server down for me... |
| 05:14.01 | mikma | hmm. I think I saw an addon some days ago that reminds you if you lose a DoT on your target.. anyone remembers what's that addon? :O |
| 05:14.58 | Fin | perhaps you need an addon reminds you if you forget a mod's name :P |
| 05:15.22 | mikma | well you code it then. make it uber |
| 05:15.47 | Fin | what was it you needed again? |
| 05:19.44 | mikma | i can't remember |
| 05:20.29 | CIA-12 | 03krakhaan * r50436 10AB/AB.lua: |
| 05:20.29 | CIA-12 | AB: |
| 05:20.29 | CIA-12 | - update !sz! |
| 05:20.31 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50437 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - add some bugfixes to the FuBar plugin. |
| 05:21.36 | Killmore2 | ckknight: you need to fix the target's target castbar plz :( |
| 05:21.58 | sztanpet | and the combopoints if were at it |
| 05:21.59 | sztanpet | :D |
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| 05:22.22 | CIA-12 | 03krakhaan * r50438 10AB/AB.toc: |
| 05:22.22 | CIA-12 | AB: |
| 05:22.22 | CIA-12 | - update toc note |
| 05:23.01 | yssaril | ckknight: ping |
| 05:23.44 | ckknight | ong |
| 05:23.47 | ckknight | pong* |
| 05:23.48 | yssaril | ckknight: is there anyway for a lib to know which addon used one of the libs function? |
| 05:23.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:24.01 | ckknight | debugstack(2) |
| 05:24.02 | yssaril | how? |
| 05:24.06 | ckknight | but not always |
| 05:24.22 | yssaril | no surefire way to do it? |
| 05:24.46 | Antiarc | P4, 2 advisors down. |
| 05:25.04 | ckknight | yssaril: using the debugstack is the best way there is |
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| 05:25.33 | yssaril | alright but you said not always which circumstance would it not work? |
| 05:26.12 | Killmore2 | Antiarc: slow dps or you dont use all the debuff crap from weapons ? |
| 05:26.27 | Antiarc | Killmore2: Learning the fight, mostly |
| 05:26.30 | Antiarc | We're using the weapons |
| 05:26.58 | sylvanaar | morning |
| 05:27.18 | yssaril | morning |
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| 05:27.45 | Xinhuan | the kael bug in this patch is pretty gay |
| 05:28.02 | Xinhuan | he's already hard and the bug just makes him harder |
| 05:28.18 | yssaril | night guys |
| 05:28.21 | Fin | morning syl |
| 05:28.24 | sztanpet | bb |
| 05:28.25 | Antiarc | We're getting better with each pull |
| 05:28.30 | Fin | morning everyone |
| 05:28.54 | Killmore2 | Xinhuan: we only keep the shield for p3 and he's at 35% |
| 05:29.19 | Xinhuan | oh kael is killable it its current state, but that doesn't mean the fight isn't gay |
| 05:29.41 | Xinhuan | how do you kill the axe? |
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| 05:29.59 | Killmore2 | we kill the axe first, single range dps on the axe |
| 05:30.07 | Xinhuan | and the bow? |
| 05:30.22 | Killmore2 | we stack all the other weapons on the bow |
| 05:30.29 | Killmore2 | and after the axe |
| 05:30.33 | Xinhuan | how is that possible? |
| 05:30.34 | Killmore2 | AE |
| 05:30.44 | Xinhuan | the bow teleports away if there's anyone in melee range |
| 05:30.56 | Killmore2 | only if someone hit the bow |
| 05:31.52 | Antiarc | We're killing melee on mace -> staff -> others, ranged -> bow -> staff -> others |
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| 05:32.59 | Xinhuan | you mean it only teleports if someone hits the bow in melee range? |
| 05:33.04 | orionshock | morning all |
| 05:33.04 | Xinhuan | what about spells in melee range? |
| 05:34.06 | Killmore2 | Xinhuan: only melee dmg |
| 05:34.13 | Killmore2 | or blade fury, WW etc.. |
| 05:34.32 | Killmore2 | arcane explosion dont make the bow blink |
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| 05:36.29 | CIA-12 | 03quagmire * r50439 10nQuestLog/ (97 files in 22 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 05:36.29 | CIA-12 | nQuestLog: |
| 05:36.29 | CIA-12 | - Moved all locales to separate files in locales folders |
| 05:36.29 | CIA-12 | - Moved module files around and added a lot of xml files for includes |
| 05:36.29 | CIA-12 | - Code cleanup/standardization |
| 05:36.30 | CIA-12 | - Added binding to lock/unlock minion |
| 05:36.32 | CIA-12 | - Implemented workaround to get quest items showing in mob tooltips again |
| 05:37.18 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r50440 10FuBar_ReportAFK/ReportAFK.lua: |
| 05:37.18 | CIA-12 | FuBar_ReportAFK |
| 05:37.18 | CIA-12 | -Added Sanity Check to report limit. |
| 05:37.27 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50441 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 05:37.27 | CIA-12 | LibRockConfig-1.0 - ROCK-75 |
| 05:37.29 | CIA-12 | - allow scale from [50%, 200%] instead of [50%, 100%]. |
| 05:37.30 | orionshock | svn being bitchie tonight... |
| 05:38.20 | vithos | ckknight: i love the new RockConfig design |
| 05:38.26 | ckknight | glad you like it |
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| 05:38.40 | kandarz | is there a way to open LibRockConfig without the addon being a rock addon? |
| 05:38.42 | ckknight | been doing my hardest to get it to that point where everyone's satisfied |
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| 05:38.49 | Crysli | Morning |
| 05:39.11 | ckknight | kandarz: /script Rock("LibRockConfig-1.0").OpenConfigMenu(MyAddon) |
| 05:39.14 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:39.55 | Crysli | Ooh, Caith's got a new UI *goes to check* |
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| 05:40.11 | kaiden | Crysli, doesn't she always? |
| 05:40.18 | Killmore2 | ckknight: fix PB-57 now :P |
| 05:40.27 | Crysli | kaiden - not yesterday :p |
| 05:40.36 | kaiden | lol :P |
| 05:40.41 | ckknight | Killmore2: you fix it |
| 05:40.44 | kaiden | Crysli, i've tried remaking her ui and failed |
| 05:40.50 | Crysli | Orly? |
| 05:40.56 | kaiden | i can't get the frames looking right or the colors right for some reason |
| 05:40.57 | Killmore2 | ckknight: I dont know how :( |
| 05:41.08 | ZealotOnAStick | where's this UI at? |
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| 05:41.28 | Crysli | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=AB5751BD016E331CFF3E3F498A37CFCF.app09_04?topicId=612461701&sid=1&pageNo=7 - bottom of page |
| 05:41.48 | kaiden | i have one of the images saved here |
| 05:41.48 | kaiden | http://ohnoes.cc/concepts/10042885jp1.jpg |
| 05:41.54 | kaiden | it's gorgeous imo :) |
| 05:42.05 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r50442 10Prat/WIM/ (54 files in 4 dirs): Prat: Changes to WIM to integrate it with prat - they are not complete, i'm not sure if i will complete them. I gave the author a copy - we'll see what comes of it. |
| 05:42.06 | Crysli | The ujnitframes are awesome. |
| 05:42.11 | Crysli | unitframes* |
| 05:42.51 | orionshock | prat and WIM getting along... |
| 05:42.54 | orionshock | :D |
| 05:43.02 | sztanpet | ooh i want those textures |
| 05:43.11 | sylvanaar | they did afaik |
| 05:43.46 | orionshock | was there a slight of hand glitch with the 2? i run both and they never had issues iirc |
| 05:44.13 | sylvanaar | i dont have issues - except that wim text looks bad |
| 05:44.19 | a-stray-ca1 | anyone here play in linux? |
| 05:44.19 | orionshock | LOL |
| 05:44.33 | kaiden | Crysli, the main thing i want to know is how she makes the borders around her chat frames, i've tried but if you dont change chatframe1's strata you can't have 3 frames under it |
| 05:44.40 | kaiden | as 1 will appear above the chatframe's text |
| 05:45.04 | Crysli | Could be custom textures, kaiden. |
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| 05:45.23 | sylvanaar | now it will work will all of prats text formatting (same way dreamchat does) |
| 05:45.28 | kaiden | Crysli, I have thought about that, but it's a bit too large to be a custom border |
| 05:46.53 | Crysli | I haven't checked out the strata thing though. I'll be sure to check it as soon as I get home from school. |
| 05:46.56 | orionshock | is there an addon yet that tracks Daily Quests? |
| 05:47.24 | Crysli | Oh #@!%! School! Totally forgot to get ready. Brb. |
| 05:47.37 | orionshock | 10 points |
| 05:48.35 | orionshock | Ahh..... "Make Rock Config look more Blizzard-esque" ??? |
| 05:48.37 | orionshock | ewwww |
| 05:48.51 | orionshock | thank god for skinner |
| 05:48.56 | sylvanaar | I made a change in prat that sets the SELCTED_CHAT_FRAME when you click on a link in that frame. I hope it doesnt break anything. |
| 05:49.13 | Crysli | Skinner <3 ALright, all ready for six hours of learning fun! |
| 05:49.31 | sylvanaar | It's amazingly difficult to know which frame you clicked a link on |
| 05:51.07 | sylvanaar | Can anyone think of a case where this would be undesirable? |
| 05:52.42 | orionshock | sylvanaar: tbh... can you think of a case where it would be desirable to know what frame you clicked a link on? |
| 05:53.30 | sylvanaar | orionshock yes |
| 05:53.40 | ckknight | orionshock: I have no issues with you using Skinner. Rock Config looks a lot better than before, though |
| 05:53.54 | orionshock | ckknight: yes it does |
| 05:54.07 | orionshock | and even now i have no issues with it, even with out skinner |
| 05:54.23 | sylvanaar | orionshock i thought that part would be obvious |
| 05:54.52 | ckknight | it being more blizzard-esque just made the border and title more like Blizz's dialogs |
| 05:54.56 | orionshock | sylvanaar: well first can you tell me why WAU insists on deleting my bat file that moves files around in skinner after each update? |
| 05:55.17 | sylvanaar | orionshock because it doesn't |
| 05:55.32 | orionshock | oh but it does |
| 05:55.35 | Crysli | Schooll time - see y'all in six hours. |
| 05:55.45 | sylvanaar | orionshock show me a log |
| 05:56.01 | orionshock | i don't have one atm :P |
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| 05:56.52 | sylvanaar | orionshock oh, well, find one where you see WAU deleting the file (it will say it in the log usually) - unless the bat comes in the zip |
| 05:57.04 | orionshock | tho i will gladly make one for you , give me 4mins |
| 05:57.41 | sylvanaar | does the bat come in the zip? |
| 05:57.47 | orionshock | no |
| 05:57.58 | sylvanaar | do you have delete before extract on? |
| 05:58.09 | orionshock | i do now |
| 05:58.17 | sylvanaar | you should not |
| 05:58.26 | orionshock | eh? |
| 05:58.39 | sylvanaar | it has no real use anymore - since 1.9 |
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| 05:59.35 | sylvanaar | that is your problem - clearly. Everything is deleted with that option on |
| 05:59.50 | orionshock | i didn't at the time |
| 06:00.20 | sylvanaar | why do you now? |
| 06:02.21 | sylvanaar | with that option off - the addon directories are kept clean - and can be converted to and from externals without needing the reinstall command. |
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| 06:05.29 | orionshock | .... |
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| 06:05.37 | orionshock | why does that sound backwards... |
| 06:06.06 | ckknight | Killmore2: I expect some sweet loving for this |
| 06:06.06 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50443 10PitBull/ (CastBar/CastBar.lua PitBull.lua): |
| 06:06.06 | CIA-12 | PitBull - change :IterateUnitFramesForUnit("unit") => :IterateUnitFramesForUnit("unit" [, includeTargetFrames]), which will include wacky units if the second argument is provided. |
| 06:06.06 | CIA-12 | PitBull_CastBar - PB-57 - allow target of target to have a castbar. |
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| 06:06.57 | orionshock | ok i guess sylvanaar has some humor left inside... |
| 06:07.02 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.11 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.31 | sylvanaar | orionshock im a funny guy actually |
| 06:07.48 | orionshock | i for the longest time thought you where a chick |
| 06:08.45 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r50444 10cyCircled/plugins/ItemRack.lua: |
| 06:08.45 | CIA-12 | cyCircled: |
| 06:08.45 | CIA-12 | - ItemRack.lua koKR Update |
| 06:12.18 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r50445 10NiHao/ (NiHao.lua NiHao.toc): |
| 06:12.18 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 06:12.18 | CIA-12 | - Increased reliability of tracking looted items. |
| 06:12.18 | CIA-12 | - Now self-adjusts values when user loses cash, preventing negative values. |
| 06:12.18 | sylvanaar | orionshock it sounds backwards because the default behavior now removes files which arent in the newer zips (which is what delete before extract's purpose was), but its smarter about it |
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| 06:14.24 | sylvanaar | you see stuff like: [10/1/2007 12:23:35 AM] 05 Threat-1.0: content Threat-1.0/Changelog-Threat-1.0-r50104.txt -> removing |
| 06:14.36 | sag_ich_nicht | mornin |
| 06:14.46 | sag_ich_nicht | you found anything Antiarc? |
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| 06:15.28 | orionshock | wtb sylvanaar why did the Prat Module "Justify" get renamed "Paragraph" ? |
| 06:15.41 | sylvanaar | curney |
| 06:15.45 | omega_ | sylvanaar: if it removes files not found in the new zip, would it not remove his .bat-file if its not in the newer zip? or does it keep a list of old files? |
| 06:15.52 | sztanpet | we should have some kind of channel moderation helper in prat too |
| 06:15.56 | sylvanaar | omega_ no |
| 06:16.08 | sylvanaar | sztanpet no, there was one, i removed it |
| 06:16.17 | sztanpet | aw |
| 06:16.24 | orionshock | curney ? is he just weird, if he' |
| 06:16.30 | sylvanaar | its in teh bliz ui now |
| 06:16.43 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.50 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 06:17.54 | sylvanaar | orionshock the way options are organized its sorta curney's area of interest |
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| 06:18.02 | orionshock | ....well the French are, (and it's a generalization) more or less all assholes... we know it, they know it ... and that's why we love them :D |
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| 06:24.12 | Nocts | Moo. |
| 06:26.34 | sztanpet | cows are pretty |
| 06:27.49 | sylvanaar | sztanpet have you seen the channel ui that's in the game now? |
| 06:28.06 | sztanpet | i think so, but i did not notice any ban or kick command |
| 06:28.30 | sylvanaar | maybe you werent moderator |
| 06:28.40 | sztanpet | im sure i was |
| 06:28.58 | sylvanaar | maybe moderation was off |
| 06:29.04 | sztanpet | there is no moderation anymore |
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| 06:30.32 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 06:31.12 | Nocts | Optional loads the /addons/ libs and xmbeds loads the libs/ inside the specific addon, right? For ## OptionalDeps: to ## X-Embeds: |
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| 06:33.13 | ckknight | X-Embeds is for WAU to deal with |
| 06:33.19 | ckknight | you load them with an embeds.xml file |
| 06:34.34 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: is there any "good" documentation for embeds.xml? |
| 06:34.46 | sylvanaar | yes if you look |
| 06:34.59 | ckknight | just copy from a working addon :-P |
| 06:35.01 | sylvanaar | i described it in nauseating detail |
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| 06:35.03 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: CustomBar: |
| 06:35.03 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:36.21 | sylvanaar | i really wish we could read embeds.xml in-game |
| 06:36.50 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.03 | sylvanaar | no need for the toc field then |
| 06:37.11 | sylvanaar | and it would be 100% accurate |
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| 06:37.37 | QuantumDelta | It's probably set up this way intentionally though Sylvanaar :P |
| 06:37.42 | orionshock | ... right but if a author sets it up right it wouldn't provided any more information than the toc field |
| 06:38.02 | sylvanaar | orionshock "100% accurate" |
| 06:38.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [08:34] <@ckknight> just copy from a working addon :-P <--i'll copy your MOM from an working addon |
| 06:38.22 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 06:38.27 | haste | http://bildr.no/image/108796.jpeg |
| 06:38.31 | orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: i'd like to see you do that |
| 06:38.44 | the-golem | arg |
| 06:39.11 | the-golem | I'm using Bongos2, and it keeps setting my profile to "Default" instead of remembering per character |
| 06:39.28 | sztanpet | what version |
| 06:39.35 | the-golem | most recent |
| 06:39.40 | sag_ich_nicht | the-golem suicide is your only way out |
| 06:39.40 | the-golem | 27th |
| 06:39.41 | sag_ich_nicht | and by that i mean installing BT3 |
| 06:39.42 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:39.42 | sztanpet | its fine for me |
| 06:39.56 | the-golem | ./wrist |
| 06:39.59 | the-golem | lol |
| 06:40.16 | the-golem | sztanpet: yeah idk whats up |
| 06:40.40 | the-golem | u'd think it would remember which profile i set it too |
| 06:41.15 | sztanpet | that binding system is extaordinary |
| 06:41.34 | the-golem | yeah thats why i like it |
| 06:41.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: is there something like Debug-1.0 for Rock? |
| 06:42.09 | ckknight | no |
| 06:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | well that's a shame. |
| 06:42.33 | ckknight | I don't use it and don't really see a point |
| 06:42.46 | ckknight | anyone is willing to make something, I'm not going to stop them |
| 06:43.25 | Nocts | So what's the easiest way to determine the minimal amount of Ace/Rock libraries a project really needs? |
| 06:43.48 | Nocts | A full: LibRock-1.0, LibRockConsole-1.0, LibRockConfig-1.0, LibRockDB-1.0, LibRockEvent-1.0, LibRockLocale-1.0, LibRockHook-1.0, LibRockModuleCore-1.0, LibRockTimer-1.0, LibDogTag-2.0, LibSharedMedia-2.0, really seems like overkill each and every time. |
| 06:44.01 | Nocts | It can't be by just call function alone |
| 06:44.14 | sag_ich_nicht | depends what you need |
| 06:44.40 | orionshock | it's really the same as with Ace2, what core modules do you need for a minimal addon? |
| 06:44.40 | Nocts | Well, frankly with the loss of AceOO it leaves me a bit naked lol |
| 06:44.53 | sag_ich_nicht | none |
| 06:45.01 | sag_ich_nicht | minimal addon doesn't use libs. |
| 06:45.02 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:45.05 | orionshock | sorta... |
| 06:45.06 | Nocts | Agreed |
| 06:45.14 | the-golem | ckknight : i dunno if anyones noticed this, but if i have the RockConfig overlapping with a nother window, and the otherwindow is ONTOP, if i mouseover a part of that window which has the rockconfig under it ... rock forces itself on top |
| 06:45.14 | ckknight | Nocts: I wrote a page on how to live without it |
| 06:45.23 | Nocts | I'm reading it, yes. |
| 06:45.27 | orionshock | you need LibRock, LibRock Event, and maybe LibRockDB |
| 06:45.32 | orionshock | at minimum |
| 06:45.33 | sag_ich_nicht | the-golem: i noticed that too |
| 06:45.38 | ckknight | the-golem: you mean the fading thing? |
| 06:45.39 | sag_ich_nicht | it's annoying |
| 06:46.02 | ckknight | or something else? |
| 06:46.14 | the-golem | ckknight: like suppose I MouseOut of RockConfig, it moves to the bottom layer |
| 06:46.16 | ckknight | also, I don't know what "ONTOP" is in the context |
| 06:46.19 | ckknight | right |
| 06:46.24 | ckknight | this is a feature, not a bug |
| 06:46.30 | the-golem | Bringing other windows to the foreground |
| 06:46.32 | ckknight | when you mouse back in, it comes to the top |
| 06:46.34 | the-golem | which is fine |
| 06:46.37 | the-golem | BUT |
| 06:46.38 | ckknight | it allows you to see what's underneath |
| 06:46.39 | sag_ich_nicht | that's fine. |
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| 06:46.45 | ckknight | not interact with them |
| 06:46.46 | the-golem | if i am within the confines of the other window |
| 06:46.54 | the-golem | and i mouse over an area that overlaps RockConfig |
| 06:46.57 | Nocts | I really feel that breaks a lot of gui standardization when it comes to strata |
| 06:46.59 | the-golem | rock forces itself ontop |
| 06:47.34 | ckknight | so you'd like it so that if you're inside another frame and that frame has focus, for RockConfig not to unfade yet? |
| 06:47.44 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 06:47.45 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 06:47.48 | the-golem | if another fram has focus |
| 06:47.50 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 06:47.51 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 06:47.53 | ckknight | ...what, then? |
| 06:47.55 | sztanpet | rofl |
| 06:47.59 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry, missread |
| 06:47.59 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 06:48.01 | ckknight | dammit, sag_ich_nicht |
| 06:48.02 | sag_ich_nicht | that's what we weant |
| 06:48.03 | sag_ich_nicht | *want |
| 06:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:48.07 | ckknight | alright, that's doable |
| 06:48.09 | the-golem | i dont want rock to focus |
| 06:48.23 | the-golem | if that makes sense |
| 06:48.35 | sag_ich_nicht | [08:48] <@ckknight> dammit, sag_ich_nicht <--"unfade" confused me |
| 06:48.44 | the-golem | ah |
| 06:48.52 | ckknight | double-plus ungood |
| 06:49.01 | the-golem | ROFL |
| 06:49.02 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
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| 06:49.13 | sag_ich_nicht | pretty much same problem |
| 06:49.17 | sag_ich_nicht | you damn orwelian bastard |
| 06:49.21 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 06:49.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight, suggestion for a new dogtag(and maybe even addon that abuses it): [Ignoring] and [Ignored] |
| 06:50.00 | sag_ich_nicht | because having someone on ignore also blocks addon whispers from them |
| 06:50.06 | sag_ich_nicht | which causes lots of "is ignoring you" spam for me |
| 06:50.07 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 06:50.20 | ckknight | you write it, I'll be happy to include it |
| 06:50.22 | Nocts | I'm still in the bandwagon of not liking the strata standardization being broken with rock config. |
| 06:50.26 | the-golem | lol |
| 06:50.35 | ckknight | Nocts: what bandwagon? |
| 06:50.37 | the-golem | i had this one guy in my guild ignoring me .. |
| 06:50.47 | kadrahil | ckknight: that one -------------------------> |
| 06:50.50 | kadrahil | ckknight: behind you |
| 06:50.53 | ckknight | a bandwagon is not a bandwagon if you're the only one in the cart. |
| 06:50.54 | the-golem | and every time he logged on, i would get "Blabla is ignoring you" |
| 06:51.16 | Nocts | And to be honest, ck, instead of a fade out for focus I think a collapsed window (ala linux where it's just the title bar being shown) would prove less of a general window hinderance |
| 06:51.17 | ckknight | you can't tell who is ignoring you through the API |
| 06:51.48 | ckknight | Nocts: ...nah. Although I see your point, this is mostly to allow people to easily check what's underneath |
| 06:51.49 | sztanpet | Nocts its more usable this way |
| 06:51.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: no |
| 06:52.00 | Nocts | I'd wager my hat to disagree |
| 06:52.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: but you can catch the "is ignoring you" message |
| 06:52.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: and since ignoring someone blocks addon whispers from them, you get a "is ignoring you" if you hover over someone who has you on ignore if you have let's say cowtip installed |
| 06:52.37 | Nocts | Let's just say that the entire alpha transition feels very off in a ui where very few things have alpha changes. |
| 06:53.07 | sag_ich_nicht | (basicially you can abuse addon whispers to check if someone has you on ignore, since addon whispers aren't shown to users but get blocked by ignore) |
| 06:53.25 | kadrahil | http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/68943/detail/ |
| 06:53.29 | kadrahil | :O |
| 06:53.38 | kadrahil | haha |
| 06:54.19 | the-golem | i actually turned the alpha all the way up ^^ |
| 06:55.03 | xt | ckknight: What did I do wrong when I cant get CowTip tooltip placement to work, whatever option I choose, it's always in the middle of the screen |
| 06:55.18 | the-golem | it'd be nice if like OneBag had a full opaqueness .. even with the alpha turned up, its still see thru |
| 06:55.24 | xt | its only on my alt, on my main it works |
| 06:55.47 | Pkekyo | monin' all |
| 06:55.47 | Pkekyo | does strain on the IC impact remote desktop usage alot? |
| 06:57.17 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:57.40 | Wobin | kadrahil: ahaha =) |
| 06:57.55 | Wobin | Jake Gyllenhall at the end was the best =) |
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| 07:03.54 | kadrahil | http://firemawchant.ytmnd.com/ |
| 07:05.17 | ckknight | xt: I don't know :-( |
| 07:05.26 | ckknight | xt: send me your SV |
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| 07:11.01 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50447 10TipHookerLib/TipHooker-1.0/TipHooker-1.0.lua: |
| 07:11.01 | CIA-12 | TipHookerLib: |
| 07:11.01 | CIA-12 | - Added LinkHeaven support |
| 07:11.40 | CIA-12 | 03zealotonastick * r50448 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Add enUS localization strings for missing L2 elements in Mother Shahraz module |
| 07:11.41 | xt | ckknight: this happens on all my alts |
| 07:11.51 | xt | ckknight: like, places I didnt even configure cowtip |
| 07:12.02 | ckknight | and why haven't you sent me your SV yet? |
| 07:12.03 | Nocts | LibRock, LibRockConfig, and LibRockDB were minimums? |
| 07:12.03 | sztanpet | i think it might be a profile issue |
| 07:12.07 | xt | ckknight: sec! |
| 07:12.21 | Nocts | Ah, event. |
| 07:12.24 | Nocts | I see that call |
| 07:12.53 | orionshock | Nocts: Minimum is a bad word for it.. i'd call it basics |
| 07:13.01 | Nocts | How about Core |
| 07:13.06 | Nocts | Core sounds more important |
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| 07:13.26 | orionshock | like i have a small non-configureable , non-sv / db needing addon - and all it needs is LibRock, and LibRockEvent |
| 07:13.36 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50449 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - add a check for coming into focus to make sure that if you're hovering over something that's technically in Rock Config's space, it won't raise the strata until you move your mouse away from that. |
| 07:13.37 | Nocts | Not DB? |
| 07:13.46 | orionshock | and only because im lazy and don't want to write a event handler for it |
| 07:13.54 | ckknight | LibRock-1.0 is the only thing you really need |
| 07:13.59 | ckknight | everything else is extra |
| 07:14.00 | ckknight | but useful |
| 07:14.08 | Nocts | -goes back to reading documentation- |
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| 07:14.15 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, the-golem: your responsibility to test |
| 07:14.17 | Nocts | ckknight, clone yourself and make some ace->Rock tutorials |
| 07:14.22 | orionshock | DB is used primarily for profiles and other DB ish stuff, so if you need it then include it |
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| 07:14.51 | xt | ckknight: looks like the savedvariables doesnt include the position on my accounts where it doesnt work..but on my main it has entries with position |
| 07:15.11 | sztanpet | told y |
| 07:15.17 | xt | , |
| 07:15.28 | orionshock | xt, you may want to consider just nuking you sv file for the addons not working on a perChar basiss |
| 07:15.31 | orionshock | worked for me |
| 07:15.51 | xt | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/74636 |
| 07:16.18 | xt | its just empty :/ |
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| 07:18.10 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r50450 10BigWigs/ (BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua Prototype.lua): BigWigs: Shahraz: The berserk translations are available in Shahraz' own acelocale entry, just use those instead. |
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| 07:19.55 | the-golem | ckknight: wow that was fast |
| 07:20.06 | Anemone | huh? |
| 07:20.12 | Anemone | i got a question |
| 07:20.17 | the-golem | answer |
| 07:20.32 | Anemone | how do i use norganna.org/irc |
| 07:20.34 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r50451 10BigWigs_DBMCustomBars/: BigWigs_DBMCustomBars: Removed, it's part of BigWigs core now. |
| 07:20.37 | Anemone | to enter an IRC chat |
| 07:21.12 | Anemone | or |
| 07:21.20 | Ackis | fyi bloodboil sucks |
| 07:21.23 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.29 | Anemone | woudl you help me find otu how to send nodes to anotehr player using gatherer |
| 07:21.42 | Nocts | Why do we use embed.xml instead of listing the libs in .toc? |
| 07:21.53 | Anemone | thanks |
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| 07:23.33 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:14] <@ckknight> sag_ich_nicht, the-golem: your responsibility to test <--sure, i will |
| 07:23.40 | sag_ich_nicht | in about 8 hours |
| 07:25.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:14] <Nocts> ckknight, clone yourself and make some ace->Rock tutorials <--*facepalm* |
| 07:25.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ~rock |
| 07:25.31 | purl | hmm... rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out |
| 07:25.57 | sag_ich_nicht | that is really more than enough documentation, covers all the Ace2-->Rock changes |
| 07:25.57 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 07:26.18 | ckknight | Nocts: speed |
| 07:26.47 | ckknight | Nocts: in the event that standalones are used, embeds.xml is to be removed, at which point, a few seconds are gained from startup |
| 07:27.15 | Nocts | sag: I don't feel it is, especially if it leaves me with a lot of questions |
| 07:27.22 | Nocts | ck: Got it |
| 07:27.48 | sag_ich_nicht | well maybe you should create a summary of your questions |
| 07:27.57 | Nocts | Like I'm already doing? |
| 07:28.02 | Nocts | ck: I think there is a lot of unnessessary effort put into mods to accomodate WAU, when it could be solved in a uniform situation. |
| 07:28.18 | ckknight | probably, but I didn't make the system |
| 07:29.00 | sag_ich_nicht | hoooold a second |
| 07:29.29 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:26] <@ckknight> Nocts: in the event that standalones are used, embeds.xml is to be removed, at which point, a few seconds are gained from startup <--why the FUCK does WAU not auto-delete all embeds.xml files then? |
| 07:29.35 | sag_ich_nicht | that explains my over-long loading times |
| 07:29.41 | Nocts | ^ |
| 07:29.48 | ckknight | it doesn't? |
| 07:29.50 | ckknight | it should. |
| 07:29.55 | sag_ich_nicht | well it DOESN'T |
| 07:29.57 | orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: it guts them instead |
| 07:30.08 | ckknight | don't yell at me |
| 07:30.12 | Nocts | lol |
| 07:30.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight i am not yelling. maybe you would like me to use stupid front and back underlines for _emphasis_? |
| 07:31.10 | theoddone33 | * * |
| 07:31.44 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:29] <orionshock> sag_ich_nicht: it guts them instead <--it indeed does, i just checked, thanks for telling me. is there a reason for that? |
| 07:31.59 | orionshock | to avoid conflits .... |
| 07:32.11 | sag_ich_nicht | with? |
| 07:32.58 | orionshock | i don't know - i was making stuff up |
| 07:33.13 | sylvanaar | so that there isnt an error |
| 07:33.22 | sylvanaar | for the missing embeds.xml |
| 07:35.11 | sylvanaar | anyhow clearing of embeds.xml was merged into the files script |
| 07:36.18 | Nocts | Wouldn't it be easier to simply create a standard instead of accomidating for both sides? |
| 07:36.38 | Nocts | embedded or non, and then put more focus into that one method of standardization |
| 07:37.05 | Nocts | I mean, let's be honest. I don't see any reason to keep libs/ per addon other than possible backwards compatability |
| 07:37.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Nocts www.wowinterface.com |
| 07:37.36 | sag_ich_nicht | files is a friggin ALPHA/BETA server |
| 07:37.41 | sag_ich_nicht | not meant for endusers |
| 07:37.47 | sag_ich_nicht | if you don't like it, go away |
| 07:37.53 | Nocts | You know, I really don't understand your fucking issue with me. |
| 07:38.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't have a issue with you |
| 07:38.12 | Nocts | I'm just trying to understand the process and then help streamline what I feel is a lot of redundant work for modders. |
| 07:38.29 | Nocts | Wowinterface.com has nothing to do with what I just asked. |
| 07:39.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Nocts: released addons |
| 07:39.26 | sag_ich_nicht | that was just an example |
| 07:39.31 | sag_ich_nicht | let's say you have a stable release |
| 07:39.42 | Nocts | Who's talking about releases? |
| 07:39.53 | sag_ich_nicht | you are, asking about the reason for embeds |
| 07:40.04 | Nocts | No, no I'm not. Or I'd say releases |
| 07:40.08 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 07:40.11 | sag_ich_nicht | it's the same thing. |
| 07:40.28 | sag_ich_nicht | the libs are embedded so users can just download the addon and it will work, because all the libs are embedded |
| 07:40.33 | Nocts | I'm asking why don't we create a framework standardization for Ace/rock libs instead of having the continual confusion over embedded or not to be. |
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| 07:40.39 | orionshock | Nocts, sag_ich_nicht has a problem with everyone |
| 07:40.51 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock: lies |
| 07:40.58 | orionshock | truth |
| 07:41.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis stop not not sleep and tell them |
| 07:41.32 | sag_ich_nicht | now excuse me, brb, have to upload some data |
| 07:41.38 | kebinusan | there is the libstub thing is that what you mean? |
| 07:41.49 | Nocts | Close, I think |
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| 07:42.01 | CIA-12 | FuBar_TopScoreFu : |
| 07:42.01 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 07:42.33 | orionshock | Nocts the reason is that there really is only one person that can say what is and what is not with how the files site works and the SVN... and he dosn't like to make decisions |
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| 07:43.25 | Nocts | I'm serious though, I'm not trying to be a pompus asshole with questions out the nipple. I just would rather see things simplified for the end user rather than telling them to gfto and use mod sites that continually have outdated information and data because it's FAR easier to use the SVN for even stable releases. |
| 07:44.04 | orionshock | Nocts: but we're not a mods site , nor a release site. your example dosn't apply |
| 07:44.18 | Nocts | But you can not ignore the fact that the majority populace treats WAU as one. |
| 07:44.28 | orionshock | and that's their problem |
| 07:44.33 | Nocts | I don't think that's right |
| 07:44.43 | Nocts | You don't release WAU to the general public and tell them not to use it |
| 07:45.08 | orionshock | well programing mods == hobby not job' |
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| 07:45.30 | Nocts | "None of these addons are recommended because they aren't on a mod colelction side, but you can stil search through our collection of mods! Just don't complain because they aren't finished, but use them and bug report them" |
| 07:45.32 | Nocts | :P |
| 07:45.35 | orionshock | no one is being paid thus there is no incentive |
| 07:47.05 | Nocts | Bah, responcibility in life exists with or without payment. |
| 07:47.13 | orionshock | lol |
| 07:47.54 | Anemone | that norganna.org/irc room is quiet |
| 07:48.17 | Anemone | can i get soem help here then? |
| 07:48.19 | orionshock | Kaelten is the owner and operator of both the files site and the svn , and ... well... sure reason aside he's also an admin at curse-gaming.com iirc |
| 07:48.46 | orionshock | so between that there is alot for him to do |
| 07:48.54 | Nocts | Sounds like someone's getting paid after all lol |
| 07:49.30 | Nocts | What's up, Anemone? |
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| 07:53.40 | orionshock | btw Nocts, "I'm not trying to be a pompus asshole with questions out the nipple." you do, and your not the first to suggest anything you've said, and im sure your not going to be the last.... |
| 07:54.50 | Nocts | "you do" - I really don't -.- At least I try not to be. But my vocal tone doesn't carry over teh intarwabs |
| 07:55.09 | Nocts | I'm usually never short-tempered or being sarcastic, I just type dry. |
| 07:56.13 | orionshock | just remember - rhyme and reason do not suite many here... and tbh that is why we have the Ace3/Rock divide |
| 07:56.48 | cryogen | morning |
| 07:57.59 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50454 10Talented/other.lua: Talented: allow to query the whole group for talent (with LibRockComm) |
| 07:59.06 | kebinusan | How would I set up a /use macro line to only try and use a trinket if its equipped so I dont get errors in my macros |
| 08:00.25 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.28 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.28 | vhaarr | ? |
| 08:00.34 | kebinusan | ah I was doing /use name |
| 08:00.38 | kebinusan | I'll do the slot instead |
| 08:00.46 | kebinusan | see if that works |
| 08:00.52 | vhaarr | think it does, but not sure |
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| 08:01.41 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 08:01.41 | CIA-12 | - Localized TankPoints.lua |
| 08:02.20 | kebinusan | yeah that works just fine |
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| 08:08.42 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 08:08.42 | CIA-12 | - Fix everything I broke localizing things |
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| 08:11.17 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 08:12.08 | ckknight | ...slowly |
| 08:12.12 | Ellipsis | I always miss the good e-drama =[ |
| 08:12.15 | ckknight | ...steadily |
| 08:12.15 | ckknight | ...with determination |
| 08:12.45 | cryogen | Ellipsis: you create enough of it, im sure there will be some more sooner or later :p |
| 08:13.03 | Ellipsis | ckknight - why the fascination with my hair tonight? |
| 08:13.23 | ckknight | why not have a fascination? |
| 08:13.42 | Ellipsis | because my hair is boring? |
| 08:13.56 | Ellipsis | it's just hair... |
| 08:14.05 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 08:14.08 | ckknight | hair is an indication of health |
| 08:14.23 | phyber | does that mean bald people are close to death? |
| 08:14.29 | ckknight | which then leads to the concept of strong childbearing |
| 08:14.41 | ckknight | which thus makes you physically attractive |
| 08:14.42 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:14] <@ckknight> hair is an indication of health <--judging by that, i should be capable of running for 10000 miles without stoping |
| 08:14.44 | Ellipsis | btw, the reason updaters don't delete embeds.xml is that the zip script deletes all the important stuff from the file |
| 08:14.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: yeah, i saw that already |
| 08:14.56 | Ellipsis | so embeds.xml stays and doesn't throw its own framexml error |
| 08:14.58 | sag_ich_nicht | you are lagging behind |
| 08:14.58 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: well, good hair. |
| 08:15.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i have good hair. |
| 08:15.14 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: *shrug* just wanted to clear it up in case y'all hadn't discovered that |
| 08:16.01 | Ellipsis | so like, I just had a really interesting conversation with my bf which relates to what yuo just said, ckknight |
| 08:16.08 | ckknight | oh? |
| 08:16.10 | sag_ich_nicht | actually my hair is so good thati t survived 3 weeks of bad misstreatment and it still looks shiny and good! |
| 08:16.23 | sag_ich_nicht | s/thati t/that it/ |
| 08:16.28 | Ellipsis | we were debating exactly what evolutionary motivations there are for women to have sex |
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| 08:16.49 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: Babble-Tradeskill-2.2, thanks TBABlackPanther |
| 08:16.49 | CIA-12 | _ Add Poisons in enUS, frFR and deDE. |
| 08:16.49 | CIA-12 | _ Add alchemy specialisations in frFR and deDE. |
| 08:17.05 | ckknight | Ellipsis: women aren't meant to have sex. it's a fluke. |
| 08:17.07 | Ellipsis | and my bf claims they're the same as a man's (psychologically, having penetrative sex leads to a more enjoyable orgasm due to the increased chance of reproduction) |
| 08:17.13 | ckknight | well, they aren't meant to enjoy sex |
| 08:17.32 | ckknight | otherwise why would the clit be outside the vagina instead of inside, where it would be more pleasureable? |
| 08:17.45 | Ellipsis | whereas I claim the only way a woman is going to want to have penetrative sex rather than some other sort of stimulation is if there is a very necessary physical sensation that requires deep penetration |
| 08:17.58 | Recluse | Talented doesn't have a display of remaining points you can spend? (or am i blind? lol) |
| 08:18.00 | ckknight | back in caveman days, if women had too much sex, they'd have more babies, and due to the obscene number of childbearing deaths, that's not the greatest of ideas |
| 08:18.18 | Nocts | "back in caveman days, if women had too much sex, they'd have more babies, and due to the obscene number of childbearing deaths, that's not the greatest of ideas" |
| 08:18.20 | Nocts | I disagree. |
| 08:18.22 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 08:18.30 | Nocts | It wasn't about sorrow but about getting one to survive. |
| 08:18.41 | Ellipsis | yeah, by that logic women will never want to get pregnant |
| 08:18.44 | Nocts | Fish give birth to hundreds of eggs for that reason. |
| 08:18.47 | Ellipsis | because they might die giving birth |
| 08:18.48 | ckknight | sorrow? |
| 08:18.50 | Nocts | So that at least some survive. |
| 08:18.53 | kebinusan | If the woman is all tied up with children, who is gonna cook dinner |
| 08:18.54 | ckknight | Ellipsis: good thing we have rape, eh? |
| 08:18.57 | Ellipsis | there still has to be a motivation to have more and more babies |
| 08:18.59 | Ellipsis | indeed ckknight |
| 08:19.05 | ckknight | Ellipsis: the need is lessened, not erradicated. |
| 08:19.21 | Ellipsis | he also refused to acknowledge rape as a significant contributing factor to reproduction back in "caveman days" |
| 08:19.21 | orionshock | lol |
| 08:19.23 | ckknight | also, the whole mothering aspect itself has its own charms |
| 08:19.24 | ckknight | outside of sex |
| 08:19.26 | Nocts | And to be honest I don't think there is a real argument to your bf's case. |
| 08:19.29 | Ellipsis | because, as he put it, "the rapists get killed a lot of the time" |
| 08:19.34 | ckknight | Ellipsis: lol, no way. rape is vital |
| 08:19.37 | Nocts | The drive for the majority populace is because of hormones, not pleasure. |
| 08:19.40 | Ellipsis | that's what I said |
| 08:19.50 | ckknight | Ellipsis: without order, rape is rampant. why swoon when you can just claim a woman and have your way? |
| 08:19.50 | Nocts | Those hormones shut off and suddenly the drive goes away. |
| 08:19.51 | kebinusan | rape helped ensure genetic diversity or something |
| 08:20.01 | Ellipsis | ckknight: I like how you think ;) |
| 08:20.11 | kebinusan | all that pillaging and raping, what else were armies supposed to do |
| 08:20.27 | ckknight | I mean, yes, due to men wanting to be fathers and all, they'd keep the woman safe for about 4 years |
| 08:20.30 | nevcairiel | you know, there _might_ be minors on the channel, if you like talking about rape and all, please take it to a private room :x |
| 08:20.39 | ckknight | but then after that point, they rotate |
| 08:20.42 | ckknight | sorta |
| 08:20.48 | Ellipsis | no, seriously though, his main supporting argument was "I know, I've had sex with more women than you" |
| 08:20.53 | Ellipsis | and I'm like ... |
| 08:21.04 | ckknight | Ellipsis: that's besides the point. |
| 08:21.18 | Ellipsis | he thinks it gives him a better idea of what goes on in a woman's mind/body during sex |
| 08:21.19 | cryogen | nevcairiel does have somewhat of a point |
| 08:21.20 | Ellipsis | than I would have |
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| 08:21.27 | cryogen | as off topic as this place gets at times, i thin kthis takes the buscuit |
| 08:21.28 | ckknight | cryogen: true. |
| 08:21.42 | ckknight | Ellipsis: ...no |
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| 08:22.00 | ckknight | Ellipsis: that's just absurd. I only know due to what anthropology and health studies I've read |
| 08:23.11 | Ellipsis | I think it's absurd too, otherwise I wouldn't be disagreeing with him |
| 08:23.15 | Nocts | ^ |
| 08:23.39 | Nocts | Hormones. Shut them off and that hint of pleasure starts to turn into friction-driven pain. |
| 08:23.50 | Nocts | I call BS on it being "pleasure driven" |
| 08:24.13 | Ellipsis | and that's a completely separate (but valid) argument from the one we were having, Nocts :P |
| 08:24.14 | *** topic/#wowace by Tem|AFK -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. Do not whine if you use a lower version.| Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT. |
| 08:24.23 | NeoTron | a night on wiping on Kael'thas |
| 08:24.27 | NeoTron | tons'o'fun |
| 08:24.35 | Nocts | Elli: I know, but I wanted to address that one point he brought up in specific. |
| 08:24.48 | evl | NeoTron: 4 weeks it too us |
| 08:24.48 | Nocts | I can't stab everyone in the collective face all the time :/ |
| 08:24.54 | evl | NeoTron: but the most memorable first takedown |
| 08:25.00 | Ellipsis | but you can certainly try Nocts :P |
| 08:25.04 | Nocts | lol |
| 08:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | minors need to gtfo IRC |
| 08:25.20 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: agreed |
| 08:25.22 | Nocts | Agreed. It is freenode. |
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| 08:25.48 | Tem|AFK | Alright, let me amend it. "please try to keep your discussions from making the channel staff gag." |
| 08:26.16 | Nocts | Sex? |
| 08:26.17 | nevcairiel | freenode is a network for free software devs, not for any "free" discussions, shush |
| 08:26.18 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i am on IRC since i'm 13. i can thus tell you that minors defintifly SHOULDN'T get on it :X |
| 08:26.24 | Tem|AFK | which, honestly works a lot better for me. I get to choose what makes me gag and therefor is against the rules |
| 08:26.34 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: you're 13? |
| 08:26.37 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: 11, I win :P |
| 08:26.38 | Nocts | Sex makes who cag? |
| 08:26.48 | Nocts | *gag |
| 08:26.49 | Tem|AFK | plus, it offends Tekkub deeply |
| 08:27.04 | ckknight | that's just a lie |
| 08:27.05 | Tem|AFK | us breeders should keep our talk somewhere private |
| 08:27.08 | ckknight | he's the one who made this: |
| 08:27.13 | ckknight | ~inflatable dildos |
| 08:27.14 | purl | Oh yea, stretch that hole! |
| 08:27.22 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 08:27.32 | Olison | :o |
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| 08:28.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i use computers since i'm 5. this isn't about winning |
| 08:28.15 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: ...then why are you continuing to try and outdo me? :P |
| 08:28.31 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:26] <@ckknight> sag_ich_nicht: you're 13? <--maybe. maybe i'm 50. maybe i'm 19. maybe i'm 38. maybe i'm 16. who knows |
| 08:28.39 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 08:28.42 | Nocts | I don't see how duration of use indicated intelligence. My father has been onthem since 71, but isn't a computer scientist. |
| 08:28.44 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht's an FBI agent. |
| 08:28.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight lies |
| 08:28.54 | Ellipsis | ~irc |
| 08:28.55 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 08:28.55 | sag_ich_nicht | you can proof nothing |
| 08:29.12 | Tem|AFK | sag_ich_nicht, what's your first language? |
| 08:29.17 | sag_ich_nicht | german |
| 08:29.20 | sag_ich_nicht | *prove |
| 08:29.21 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 08:29.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: why? |
| 08:29.51 | Tem|AFK | your english syntax is a bit off |
| 08:29.51 | Tekkub | du bist ein doodyhead |
| 08:30.06 | Tem|AFK | as if you were translating directly from another language |
| 08:30.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: i'm just being lazy and not paying attn |
| 08:30.27 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht's english is usually pretty good tbh |
| 08:30.35 | Ellipsis | and I think he gets offended when people can tell he's not a native speaker |
| 08:30.45 | Tem|AFK | and it's not a problem, really; I was just curious |
| 08:30.45 | sag_ich_nicht | nah |
| 08:30.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't care |
| 08:30.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: care to point out an example, except for that prove/proof error above? :P |
| 08:31.07 | Ether_Man | Tem|AFK, Your english is a little off yourself so you might wanna tone down complaining a bit |
| 08:31.09 | Tekkub | 'i' :) |
| 08:31.22 | Tem|AFK | Ether_Man, you know what I mean. Also, I wasn't complaining at all. |
| 08:32.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:30] <Ellipsis> and I think he gets offended when people can tell he's not a native speaker <--only time that pisses me of is on vent because i must have some stupid wiring eror in my brain that causes me to fail completely at spoken english when i talk over VoIP or the phone, whiling speaking perfectly fine face to face >< |
| 08:32.11 | Nocts | I've got a controversal question |
| 08:32.17 | Ether_Man | Still not really needed to comment on it then is it not? |
| 08:32.20 | Tem|AFK | sag_ich_nicht, "i use computers since i'm 5." - > "I have been using computers since I was 5." |
| 08:32.40 | Ellipsis | maybe he meant he IS five |
| 08:32.43 | Nocts | What did Tuller do so right about his mods with pure lua that he can to what Ace alternatives do with the same or less RAM? |
| 08:32.47 | Tem|AFK | Ether_Man, I was curious, damnit |
| 08:32.56 | Tem|AFK | and he asked why I was curiou |
| 08:33.02 | Tem|AFK | would you rather my lie about it? |
| 08:33.25 | Tem|AFK | good lord, I can't type tonight |
| 08:33.43 | dieck | sag_ich_nicht: Ah, me too ;) The problem is, on the phone I have either people talking american english (from Chicago), british english (from London) or chinese english -- not comparable to any other kind of english ;) |
| 08:34.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:32] <@Tem|AFK> sag_ich_nicht, "i use computers since i'm 5." - > "I have been using computers since I was 5." <--mhm, true enough. but shouldn't that be "i've been using computer since i've been 5"? |
| 08:34.17 | dieck | on Vent or TS there are the WoW type of english guys, getting it all wrong, so I don't have to mind ;) |
| 08:34.21 | Tem|AFK | sag_ich_nicht, "I've" is a contraction for "I have" |
| 08:34.26 | Ether_Man | sag_ich_nicht, "I've" is spoken english |
| 08:34.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: i know |
| 08:34.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: the point is the second part |
| 08:34.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i just shortened it |
| 08:35.00 | sag_ich_nicht | compare the written out form to what i quoted |
| 08:35.01 | cryogen | i have doesnt fit there |
| 08:35.04 | cryogen | "was" is more correct |
| 08:35.05 | sag_ich_nicht | there is still a difference |
| 08:35.14 | dieck | in german english lessons you learn to write I've -- so that might be a problem of our teachers ;) |
| 08:35.15 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: most people don't speak that way, no :P |
| 08:35.16 | Ether_Man | "I've" is usually what is taught in schools for the purpose of teaching spoken english. Correct english is I have |
| 08:35.18 | Tem|AFK | cryogen, I disagree |
| 08:35.27 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: okay |
| 08:35.29 | cryogen | Tem|AFK: you wrote the "was" |
| 08:35.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Ether_Man: i know |
| 08:35.34 | Ellipsis | you don't say "since I've been five" you say "since I was five" |
| 08:35.43 | cryogen | Tem|AFK: read what he wrote, he used two "i have"s |
| 08:35.44 | sag_ich_nicht | the thing is about TIME, not "i have"/"i've" |
| 08:35.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: okay, thanks for the correction |
| 08:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | now i want the gammar details behind that >.> |
| 08:36.07 | Ellipsis | and it's always "computers" - if you'd been using the same computer the whole time you could say "a computer" or "the computer" or "this computer" |
| 08:36.11 | sag_ich_nicht | s/gammar/grammar/ |
| 08:36.14 | Tem|AFK | cryogen, ah, I misunderstood what you meant |
| 08:36.14 | nevcairiel | you guys are driving me nuts, you start bitching about _everything_ the last weeks. man i miss the old addon and coding discussions |
| 08:36.39 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:36] <Ellipsis> and it's always "computers" - if you'd been using the same computer the whole time you could say "a computer" or "the computer" or "this computer" <--i know that, typo'd :X |
| 08:36.50 | Ellipsis | kk :P |
| 08:36.51 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: it's not incorrect, it's just convention |
| 08:36.53 | cryogen | just sounds better |
| 08:36.53 | dieck | nevcairiel: just start one. And EMACS is of course the best editor for addons ;) |
| 08:37.15 | nevcairiel | i never could get used to emacs |
| 08:37.16 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: knowing some german myself, i can see why you would say it that way |
| 08:37.18 | Ether_Man | emac vs vi wars! go go ^_^;; |
| 08:37.23 | Tem|AFK | sag_ich_nicht, in written english, you wouldn't use "I've" but in this context it doesn't matter the two are equal |
| 08:37.25 | cryogen | but it doesnt fit |
| 08:37.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: this is IRC. |
| 08:37.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll continue to use i've |
| 08:37.42 | Tem|AFK | (by written english I mean a formal to semi formal environment) |
| 08:37.44 | sag_ich_nicht | if you complain about it |
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| 08:37.48 | CIA-12 | StatFrameLib-1.0: |
| 08:37.48 | CIA-12 | - fix minor tooltip issue for blizzard frames |
| 08:37.48 | Tem|AFK | like a paper |
| 08:38.10 | dieck | the problem with native german speakers (as I am one myself) is, our grammar is so complex, we try to use it everywhere -- but it just won't fit to other languages ;) |
| 08:38.10 | Tem|AFK | sag_ich_nicht, not complaining, just informing. Like I said, it doesn't matter here. The two are equal. |
| 08:38.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i will start typing like dis so u get rly piss'd off n start flamin me |
| 08:38.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 08:38.31 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: then i will continue to use the "wrong" form if it's still correct from a grammatical point of view just to annoying people :D |
| 08:38.40 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 08:38.44 | sag_ich_nicht | *just to annoy people |
| 08:38.45 | Ether_Man | dieck, complex? ^_^;; |
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| 08:39.03 | dieck | Ether_Man: I never learned Latin :) |
| 08:39.07 | cryogen | well, it's correct in that it goes together, but you might confuse people :) |
| 08:39.27 | sag_ich_nicht | damn you, logitech keyboard that i'm not used to, providing no tactical feedback so i may correct misstyping >.> |
| 08:39.36 | dieck | Ether_Man: so for me, compared to e.g. english, french or the little swedish I know, yes, it's complex |
| 08:39.48 | Tem|AFK | really? |
| 08:39.52 | Ellipsis | swedish isn't much better o.O |
| 08:39.53 | Ether_Man | It's not more complex than swe :) |
| 08:39.57 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:37] <Ether_Man> emac vs vi wars! go go ^_^;; <--the POSIX default editor is ed. discussion over.# |
| 08:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | -# |
| 08:40.09 | Ellipsis | they're fairly similar structurally anyhow |
| 08:40.14 | Tem|AFK | I thought english was supposed to be the most complex language |
| 08:40.19 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 08:40.20 | Ellipsis | hahaha |
| 08:40.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ROFL |
| 08:40.30 | sag_ich_nicht | german complexity >>>>>> english |
| 08:40.31 | Tem|AFK | anytime you have a rule, it never applies to everything |
| 08:40.33 | dieck | maybe swedish is a little easier for me as I learned the "old" nothern german language "Platt" at home -- there are some similiarities |
| 08:40.44 | Ellipsis | yeah but we don't make up as many rules because of that Tem|AFK |
| 08:40.46 | sag_ich_nicht | and i won't even start on japanese or worse chinese |
| 08:40.47 | sag_ich_nicht | or finnish |
| 08:40.48 | cryogen | english isnt complex, it's just confusing and inconsistant |
| 08:40.53 | sag_ich_nicht | or fuckin hungarian |
| 08:40.58 | cryogen | finnish *shudder* |
| 08:40.59 | Ellipsis | we have more exceptions and special case complexity |
| 08:41.02 | Ellipsis | but their rules are more WTFy |
| 08:41.03 | Ether_Man | sag_ich_nicht, japanese is one of the easiest languages we have you know |
| 08:41.04 | Tem|AFK | swedish looks to have a syntax very similar to enligh in what I've seen |
| 08:41.20 | Ellipsis | swedish is somewhere between german and english |
| 08:41.21 | Tem|AFK | it seems to translate to english without moving words at all |
| 08:41.23 | dieck | hm, every time I see something in finish I just think they put some special chars in a box, mixed them, and played scrabble :) |
| 08:41.31 | xt | 10:39 <@Tem|AFK> I thought english was supposed to be the most complex language |
| 08:41.32 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 08:41.36 | xt | haha |
| 08:41.41 | Ellipsis | Tem|AFK, how much swedish have you used? :P |
| 08:41.42 | xt | Tem|AFK: where are you from ? |
| 08:41.43 | Tem|AFK | perhaps it's that english is the hardest to learn |
| 08:41.51 | sag_ich_nicht | bullshit |
| 08:41.55 | cryogen | Tem|AFK: thats what people say |
| 08:41.55 | Tem|AFK | Ellipsis, very,very,very little |
| 08:41.57 | sag_ich_nicht | english is a joke to learn |
| 08:41.59 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 08:42.01 | xt | truth :) |
| 08:42.03 | Ellipsis | I supposed as much |
| 08:42.04 | sylvanaar | ckknight any chance you can make the config buttons 1/2 the width of the config panel vs the full width |
| 08:42.13 | sag_ich_nicht | brb |
| 08:42.26 | Ellipsis | swedish is fairly easy to decrypt with little knowledge of the language, but the rules in place are actually a lot more complex than they might seem at first |
| 08:42.28 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 08:42.33 | Ether_Man | So is japanese :) ppl only think japanese is hard because they use a diffrent alphabet than we do :) |
| 08:42.39 | ckknight | sylvanaar: what's wrong with the full width? |
| 08:42.47 | ckknight | Ether_Man: they don't use an alphabet |
| 08:42.54 | haste | Ether_Man: well, you still need to learn kanji, which is slight annoyance |
| 08:42.55 | Ether_Man | ckknight, they do |
| 08:43.02 | haste | Ether_Man: hiragana and katakana is easy however |
| 08:43.03 | ckknight | kanji isn't an alphabet :-P |
| 08:43.04 | sylvanaar | ckknight nothing, just wondering |
| 08:43.04 | Ellipsis | it's not an alphabet, technically |
| 08:43.15 | xt | Ether_Man: It is an agglutinative language and is distinguished by a complex system of honorifics reflecting the hierarchical nature of Japanese society, with verb forms and particular vocabulary to indicate the relative status of speaker, listener and the person mentioned in conversation. |
| 08:43.18 | Tem|AFK | yay sematics wars 4 |
| 08:43.19 | xt | yeah, that sounds really easy |
| 08:43.27 | Ellipsis | \o/ |
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| 08:43.34 | CIA-12 | StatFrameLib-1.0: |
| 08:43.34 | CIA-12 | - fix for infinite health bug |
| 08:43.36 | Ether_Man | haste, you dont HAVE to learn kanji.. noone known the entire kanji.. you need about 2000 words of kanji which isnt much.. |
| 08:43.47 | Ether_Man | ckknight, no but hiragana och katakana is |
| 08:43.48 | dieck | I heard there are only two time forms in Japanese, and that many words are described in phrases, so that the language itself is not very complex? |
| 08:43.58 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man betrays his swedish origins! |
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| 08:44.18 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r50463 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua: BigWigs: CustomBar: Throttle DBM custom bars at 1 second. |
| 08:44.34 | haste | Ether_Man: it's still more work then in other languages ;) |
| 08:44.35 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50464 10Links/Links.lua: Links: use Insert() instead of SetText(GetText()). Should now work with Wim. Thanks Maytrix |
| 08:44.59 | dieck | but I'll stay with english, the little french that is left of my school days, and the little swedish I learned at the university ;) |
| 08:45.10 | Ether_Man | haste, no.. In other languages you have to learn a fuckload of diffrent exceptions to rules and stuff.. japanese have 4 exceptions and that's it.. |
| 08:45.45 | sylvanaar | whats links? |
| 08:46.01 | haste | links links links |
| 08:46.08 | cryogen | it's a console web browser |
| 08:46.11 | dieck | either a golf game or a linux console webbrowser |
| 08:46.17 | dieck | :) |
| 08:46.23 | Ellipsis | or an addon.. |
| 08:46.26 | Ellipsis | (remember those?) |
| 08:46.38 | Ether_Man | as well as in other languages you pronounce the same letter diffrently depending on what letters are after it.. In japanese all letters are pronounced EXACTLY the same no matter other letters in the word |
| 08:46.41 | cryogen | what's an addon? |
| 08:46.43 | Hjalte | Links allows you to have several item links on your screen at once i think. |
| 08:47.08 | orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys/ |
| 08:47.10 | haste | Ether_Man: not exactly, as you 'usually' drop i and u |
| 08:47.12 | Tem|AFK | Ether_Man, isn't that more because every sound has a letter? |
| 08:47.41 | Tem|AFK | (well, excluding the "l" and "th" sounds =P) |
| 08:47.42 | Ether_Man | haste, no, you just dont hear them depending on what comes after.. But you DO pronounce them |
| 08:48.11 | nevcairiel | if i pronounce them, i hear them |
| 08:48.12 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 08:48.13 | Ether_Man | Tem|AFK, not every sound.. There's only 48 characters in their alphabet |
| 08:48.14 | Tem|AFK | Ether_Man, consider ending something with "desu" it's common to no pronouce the 'u' |
| 08:48.31 | Tem|AFK | s/to no/to not/ |
| 08:48.32 | Ellipsis | su and shi are like that sometimes |
| 08:48.39 | Ether_Man | Tem|AFK, yes.. That's one of the exceptions I was talking about :) |
| 08:48.46 | Tem|AFK | bah, no exceptions |
| 08:48.53 | Ellipsis | 4 exceptions! |
| 08:48.53 | Tem|AFK | only english is allowed exceptions |
| 08:48.55 | Ether_Man | I said there was 4 exceptions :) |
| 08:49.37 | Tem|AFK | god, I'm so braindead I can't even find where you said that |
| 08:49.43 | Tem|AFK | sorry, I need sleep |
| 08:49.47 | sag_ich_nicht | and back |
| 08:49.48 | sylvanaar | i wonder if i need to add support for IsModifiedClick to prats SetItemRef hook - if thre is a point |
| 08:49.51 | sag_ich_nicht | what did i miss! |
| 08:50.10 | Ether_Man | [10:45] <Ether_Man> haste, no.. In other languages you have to learn a fuckload of diffrent exceptions to rules and stuff.. japanese have 4 exceptions and that's it.. |
| 08:50.12 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes, there should be a question mark there, i know. that is intentional.) |
| 08:50.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Ether_Man: and 3 different writting systems |
| 08:50.29 | sag_ich_nicht | *sigh* |
| 08:50.55 | cryogen | learn Welsh |
| 08:51.01 | haste | kanji is the only problematic one sag_ich_nicht |
| 08:51.05 | cryogen | apparently that's the most logic language there is |
| 08:51.11 | haste | you'll learn hiragana and katakana easily within a week |
| 08:51.13 | Ether_Man | sag_ich_nicht, hm no.. 2.. kanji is not a writing system.. it's an extra to both the hira- and katakana |
| 08:51.21 | cryogen | logical, too |
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| 08:52.16 | orionshock | is there a time lib? |
| 08:52.28 | Ellipsis | for what? |
| 08:52.34 | Ether_Man | it is.. a, i, u, e, o.. sa, si, su, se, so.. ka, ki, ku, ke, ko.. that's the start of the base.. there are quite som variations to that but the base for is in that order |
| 08:52.47 | Trell_ | is there anywhere that has extensive theorycrafting on Rogue hit rating? |
| 08:52.56 | Trell_ | (recent) |
| 08:53.05 | orionshock | Ellipsis: doing conversions ect.. |
| 08:53.16 | CIA-12 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50465 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 08:53.16 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 08:53.16 | CIA-12 | - informational fixes |
| 08:53.20 | Ellipsis | I don't think so, most people just do math |
| 08:53.25 | Ether_Man | Trell_, as in how much hit you want before maximising it against boss targets? :) |
| 08:53.31 | sylvanaar | whats the point of it |
| 08:53.51 | Sole | Trell_: you want 309 I thinks |
| 08:53.54 | Trell_ | 308 |
| 08:53.58 | Trell_ | i know that much ;) |
| 08:54.08 | haste | orionshock: there's a massive date lib on luaforge |
| 08:54.18 | Sole | close enough for someone who hasnt been raiding for a long time |
| 08:54.37 | sag_ich_nicht | we should all just speak Lojban. |
| 08:54.37 | Ether_Man | 308 = 42%? O_o |
| 08:54.44 | Trell_ | I get by as Mutilate with 253, but I'd like top see a post where its explained in depth, with tiny words that an idiot like me can understand ;) |
| 08:55.04 | orionshock | just wondering - there is this interesting WoW api i found the other day |
| 08:55.05 | evl | people over and underrate hit |
| 08:55.05 | Trell_ | ie - how much you should aim for without gimping too many other stats |
| 08:55.07 | Antiarc | 308 is the hit cap, assuming you have weapon expertise |
| 08:55.09 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:52] <Trell_> is there anywhere that has extensive theorycrafting on Rogue hit rating? <--yes |
| 08:55.12 | evl | if you lose 5% crit to gain 20 hit |
| 08:55.16 | evl | you have to balance it |
| 08:55.24 | evl | I'm swords with 260 but I have a lot of crit and ap |
| 08:55.28 | sag_ich_nicht | hi antiarc. |
| 08:55.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Trell_: http://sp00n.pytalhost.com/wow/weaponskill.htm |
| 08:55.32 | Sole | well mutilate isnt the best |
| 08:55.33 | Antiarc | Evening |
| 08:55.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: found anything? |
| 08:55.39 | evl | 320 is optimal but stupid, since you'd have to do all +8 hit gems to get there :P |
| 08:55.44 | Arcaia | Antiarc what about with Grips of Deftness? |
| 08:55.48 | Antiarc | I haven't found anything |
| 08:55.53 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 08:55.54 | Antiarc | And Deftness are trash, pretty much |
| 08:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 08:55.58 | Ether_Man | You want the base hit plus 16%.. 16% is 206.. and then there's the base miss of 26% because of DW.. :/ |
| 08:55.59 | evl | Weapon skill rules for bosses |
| 08:56.01 | Trell_ | evl: but I'm right in telling people that 200 is what they should aim for to begin raiding with, and anything less than that is a joke to be quite honest? |
| 08:56.02 | evl | Sucks for everything else |
| 08:56.04 | Arcaia | Better than not having em though? |
| 08:56.10 | Antiarc | Fel Leather Gloves are way better |
| 08:56.12 | evl | Yeah, 200 is too low |
| 08:56.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://sp00n.pytalhost.com/wow/weaponskill.htm :X |
| 08:56.16 | Antiarc | And they're blue + crafted |
| 08:56.24 | evl | Just run WWS and look at how much you are missing |
| 08:56.26 | Trell_ | i saw sag_ich_nicht, and thankyou |
| 08:56.27 | evl | hit is just another stat |
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| 08:56.38 | baer_ | moin. |
| 08:56.44 | Trell_ | evl: personally I use Recount, so I can see how much I've been missing ;) |
| 08:56.47 | Trell_ | <3 Recount. |
| 08:56.52 | evl | Yeah I love FPS |
| 08:56.56 | evl | :) |
| 08:57.06 | evl | Recount accumulates something like 1mb per boss try |
| 08:57.16 | Antiarc | I'm at 269 hit with my rogue, but that's because T5 doesn't have much hit on it |
| 08:57.21 | sag_ich_nicht | weaponskill has only been recently deciphered again Trell_ |
| 08:57.26 | Antiarc | I'm human, though, so I'm only 31 hit short of the cap |
| 08:57.27 | Arcaia | Antiarc: I had Fel Leather Gloves, Grips of Deftness just outperformed in the long run [imo] |
| 08:57.34 | evl | yeah, that's the thing, T5 has a lot of other stats to make up for the loss of hit |
| 08:57.41 | Antiarc | yup |
| 08:57.41 | evl | Deftness suck? |
| 08:58.00 | Trell_ | im running 253, as I say, I could get a fair bit more, but I don't want to gimp any other stats to get there |
| 08:58.03 | Antiarc | Deftness are good against bosses if you don't have WEx |
| 08:58.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: what was that KTM 0 commit thing you added? |
| 08:58.21 | Antiarc | But other than that, the benefit from +skill past 5 points isn't worth the stat cost |
| 08:58.31 | evl | uh? |
| 08:58.31 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: Basically a fix to let cleared threat publish to KTM |
| 08:58.38 | Trell_ | !c eu draenor Trell |
| 08:59.04 | ThraeBot | Trell_: Trell, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (41/20/0). 9134 HP; +10 Energy; 1562 AP; 360.300 Melee DPS; 23.73% melee crit; 254 melee hit; 18.81% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1416 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo53k9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qh7qg ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 04:58:44 2007 EST ]] |
| 08:59.04 | orionshock | eek... what's the plural of Daily? |
| 08:59.04 | evl | Belt of One Hundred deaths has ONLY weapon skill and it's the best belt in the game |
| 08:59.04 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 08:59.04 | evl | so arguably that's a false statement |
| 08:59.04 | Trell_ | actually my crit is wrong, must be mounted - it's 26.something |
| 08:59.08 | evl | !c eu kazzak surly |
| 08:59.11 | ThraeBot | evl: Surly, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (20/41/0). 9004 HP; 3862 Armour; 1736 AP; 398.800 Melee DPS; 28.05% melee crit; 260 melee hit; 32.61% dodge; 37 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1991 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23m9ga ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vvwl9 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 04:59:15 2007 EST ]] |
| 08:59.14 | Antiarc | Belt of Deep Shadow is better |
| 08:59.23 | cryogen | orionshock: there isnt one, you're trying to pluralise a contraction :) |
| 08:59.30 | orionshock | LOL |
| 08:59.30 | evl | Antiarc: no |
| 08:59.37 | Antiarc | It tends to let you itemize for lost hit :) |
| 08:59.42 | Ellipsis | technically daily isn't a noun so you can't really pluralize it |
| 08:59.49 | Ellipsis | but if you could, you'd want to say "dailies" |
| 08:59.55 | evl | Antiarc: I have belt of deep shadow in bank, belt of one hundred is tons better for DPS |
| 09:00.22 | Antiarc | That's, what, +6 skill? |
| 09:00.24 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:58] <+Antiarc> sag_ich_nicht: Basically a fix to let cleared threat publish to KTM <--i meant the other part of the commit |
| 09:00.28 | evl | something like it |
| 09:00.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: debug command for parser? |
| 09:00.37 | sag_ich_nicht | (the rock one) |
| 09:00.47 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll test with that enabled too in the evening >< |
| 09:01.31 | Antiarc | That's, uh, 0.6% hit (9ish hit rating) and what, 1.2% crit, and -0.36% mitigation on your opponent? |
| 09:01.31 | evl | against level 70 yes |
| 09:01.34 | kebinusan | I hate ktm, our shaman kiter on vashj was using it tongiht, always showed him at like 200+k threat was impossible to track aggro |
| 09:01.36 | evl | but against a boss mob it scales better |
| 09:02.05 | Antiarc | Weapon skill only "scales" to get you within 10 points |
| 09:02.14 | Antiarc | So if you are human or have WEx, the benefit isn't there as heavily |
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| 09:02.23 | Antiarc | Against a boss, the first 5 points are worth 3% hit |
| 09:02.38 | Antiarc | But if you have those 5 points from anywhere else, the benefits are as I outlined above |
| 09:02.39 | evl | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t11885-rogue_warrior_weapon_skill_adjustment_discussion |
| 09:02.45 | Antiarc | Yeah, I read it too :P |
| 09:03.08 | evl | Perhaps you missed the part where it mitigates misses better than hit against boss mobs |
| 09:03.25 | Antiarc | Per point, yes, it does |
| 09:03.32 | Antiarc | That's the first 5 points thing |
| 09:03.42 | Antiarc | The gains for the first 5 are enormous and can't be overstated |
| 09:03.50 | Antiarc | You -need- 355 weapon skill to DPS bosses |
| 09:04.09 | evl | belt of one hundreds deaths is the best pve dps belt in the game, eod :P |
| 09:04.17 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 09:04.19 | *** part/#wowace Tinhay (n=Tinhay@85.126.242.110) |
| 09:05.24 | sag_ich_nicht | woooooooo |
| 09:05.31 | sag_ich_nicht | the headless horseman is supposed to be easy |
| 09:05.32 | sag_ich_nicht | awesome |
| 09:05.36 | sag_ich_nicht | new helm i come for you~ |
| 09:05.44 | sag_ich_nicht | (i hope it drops :() |
| 09:06.00 | sag_ich_nicht | and nobody on our realm knows anything about him~ |
| 09:06.02 | kandarz | so like, for headless horseman, what is the CD? on the pumpkin |
| 09:06.02 | cryogen | theorycrafting is facsinating and boring at the same time |
| 09:06.15 | qwesto | He's a daily quest |
| 09:06.18 | sag_ich_nicht | kandarz: daily, supposedly |
| 09:06.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i will farm him until he despawns |
| 09:06.33 | sag_ich_nicht | every. single. day. |
| 09:06.39 | evl | cryogen: and mostly wrong because you never stand in one spot hitting a boss unless it's morogrim or VR |
| 09:06.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i want that helm so badly :X |
| 09:06.49 | kandarz | so, if you get a group of 5, and you each take turns summoning, you can do it 5 times a day? |
| 09:06.55 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe. |
| 09:07.04 | Grum | Morning world! |
| 09:07.06 | neenee | But everyone will farm. |
| 09:07.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno, lol |
| 09:07.09 | Ellipsis | morning Grum |
| 09:07.09 | neenee | Hi Grum |
| 09:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | grum addon or gtfo |
| 09:07.10 | cryogen | i dobut it |
| 09:07.14 | cryogen | it'll be a group quest |
| 09:07.16 | Grum | bay |
| 09:07.20 | qwesto | kandarz: that's how it works right now at least |
| 09:07.21 | Grum | l/eave #wowace |
| 09:07.22 | cryogen | one of those "xxx is starting xxx. you go now kthx?" |
| 09:07.22 | Ellipsis | I see what you did there sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:07.25 | Grum | saammit |
| 09:07.29 | Grum | *d :( |
| 09:07.30 | neenee | Loads of groups will farm. |
| 09:07.32 | Ellipsis | ~fail Grum |
| 09:07.33 | purl | Grum: Fail. |
| 09:07.37 | Grum | i failed :( |
| 09:07.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: no you don't |
| 09:07.45 | kandarz | but you can decline those quests cryogen... |
| 09:07.48 | Grum | and its only monday morning .. this will be one good week! RAWR |
| 09:07.53 | cryogen | kandarz: true |
| 09:07.57 | sag_ich_nicht | if you would have, you wouldn't talk to me! :O |
| 09:07.58 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 09:08.01 | sag_ich_nicht | you mean here on IRC |
| 09:08.03 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit! |
| 09:08.06 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 09:08.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i kid, i kid |
| 09:08.42 | Grum | he does not, do you want this webcam url? |
| 09:08.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i am |
| 09:08.51 | sag_ich_nicht | christ |
| 09:08.54 | *** part/#wowace cb (i=cb@transgaming.de) |
| 09:08.56 | Grum | got the stream saved as well but that will cost ya |
| 09:09.11 | Grum | Ellipsis: he uses 1 hand to type with you |
| 09:09.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm at work, i wouldn't be able to do anything creepy, even if i WOULD do creepy things, which i don't. >< |
| 09:09.13 | Codayus | Hmm, WWS of a Shahraz kill where one druid just using Lifebloom did ~27% of the healing. Next two healers *combined* did 24%... |
| 09:09.16 | Codayus | http://wowwebstats.com/l5gppi32zpjjc?s=4315-4722&m |
| 09:09.35 | Antiarc | Trinketed/buffed lifebloom is insane |
| 09:09.36 | nevcairiel | so Codayus? :) |
| 09:09.40 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 09:09.45 | Codayus | Makes me want to reroll tree. |
| 09:09.47 | Codayus | :-( |
| 09:09.54 | sag_ich_nicht | tree gets buffed in 2.3! |
| 09:09.55 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 09:10.06 | sag_ich_nicht | suck it :O |
| 09:10.17 | Grum | i am going to reroll tree (seriously) |
| 09:10.17 | kandarz | wtb buff to frenzied rejuv |
| 09:10.23 | cryogen | stupid trees |
| 09:10.24 | Grum | whenever we get to patch 2.3 that is |
| 09:10.28 | Codayus | sag_ich_nicht: Not much of a buff tbh. |
| 09:10.36 | cryogen | always stealing stuff priests were supposed to get |
| 09:10.54 | Grum | priest healers are so .. weak nowadays |
| 09:10.58 | kandarz | so this AFK system in AV kinda sucks |
| 09:11.04 | kandarz | I'm still not paying attention |
| 09:11.07 | cryogen | Grum: no kidding |
| 09:11.18 | cryogen | druids have raw healing power |
| 09:11.20 | Grum | and that when the other healing classes are full hybrids O.o |
| 09:11.22 | cryogen | paladins have staying power |
| 09:11.23 | Fisker- | awww headache |
| 09:11.29 | cryogen | priests have... shadow? |
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| 09:11.42 | Fisker- | have been sleeping with the alarm on for almost 7 hours |
| 09:11.48 | Grum | the problem is, i have no idea how they can improve priests |
| 09:12.00 | cryogen | they had their chance and blew it |
| 09:12.05 | cryogen | they gave it to druids instead |
| 09:12.11 | Grum | treeform? |
| 09:12.14 | cryogen | ya |
| 09:12.16 | cryogen | "holy form" |
| 09:12.24 | kebinusan | eh circle of healing could be improved, they dont seem to want to do that |
| 09:12.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:10] <Codayus> sag_ich_nicht: Not much of a buff tbh. <--intensity is DOUBLED << |
| 09:12.31 | Grum | they will in 2.3 |
| 09:12.33 | kebinusan | the extra mana regen while casting in 2.3 is a big improvement |
| 09:12.36 | Grum | it will get better healing bonus |
| 09:12.38 | sag_ich_nicht | and you can now actually cleanse while in tree! |
| 09:12.51 | Codayus | sag_ich_nicht: What tree goes OOM? Cleanse is a bigger buff but... |
| 09:12.53 | cryogen | theres still nothing that makes me WANT to respec holy and heal |
| 09:13.06 | Tem|AFK | I hope the regen while casting thing isn't accessible with all the good disc suvivability talents |
| 09:13.11 | Grum | cryogen: also the shield getting +heal bonus is nice |
| 09:13.19 | cryogen | it already has +heal bonus |
| 09:13.22 | nevcairiel | Codayus: trees can go oom without shadow priest and alot targets to spam hots on :) |
| 09:13.24 | Tem|AFK | 2v2 arena vs a priest is the suck |
| 09:13.24 | cryogen | its just getting a tiny bit more |
| 09:13.27 | Grum | cryogen: it hasn't |
| 09:13.30 | Grum | shield dont have it |
| 09:13.30 | cryogen | it was supposed to |
| 09:13.32 | Tem|AFK | you basically can't kill him until he goes oom |
| 09:13.33 | Grum | it's always 1600 |
| 09:13.34 | kebinusan | I actually think with priestwall being able to be cast on friendly targets its pretty amazing pve |
| 09:13.36 | Codayus | To be honest, priests are perfectly decent healers. Not as specialized as trees or shamans, but they do fine... |
| 09:13.37 | Grum | (or whatever you spec it at) |
| 09:13.50 | Grum | Codayus: problem is for raids you do want specialized healers |
| 09:13.52 | cryogen | round about patch 1.8 or so they said that it got benefits |
| 09:13.56 | Tem|AFK | (unless you get a really good stun or counterspell) |
| 09:14.02 | Grum | cryogen: which is lies its on the notes for next patch |
| 09:14.04 | Codayus | But like cryogen said, why would you spec holy? Or from the raid leaders persective, why you WANT a holy priest? Or a 2nd one, that is. |
| 09:14.20 | kebinusan | Codayus, Id rather have paladins and shaman and druids |
| 09:14.21 | nevcairiel | Codayus: the thing is, you need specialzed healers, that "general healer" role is just not working anymore.. :) |
| 09:14.23 | cryogen | Grum: ya saw that, figured it was just an improvement |
| 09:14.34 | Grum | Power Word: Shield will gain additional benefit from spell damage and healing bonuses. Base absorb values for ranks 10, 11 and 12 have been reduced to compensate for this change. (src) |
| 09:14.40 | cryogen | yeah "additional" |
| 09:14.40 | kebinusan | and shadow priests |
| 09:14.41 | Grum | yeah 'additional' might seem like it |
| 09:14.51 | Grum | but its surely not like that right now |
| 09:14.57 | cryogen | i think it is |
| 09:15.01 | cryogen | its just a piss poor bonus |
| 09:15.05 | Grum | i play a priest ... its not true |
| 09:15.11 | cryogen | at least when i trinket, drdamage increases the number on my shield |
| 09:15.16 | Grum | naked my shield does ~1600 and with 1900+healing it does the same |
| 09:15.26 | Codayus | Paladins? Meh. The reason guilds take paladins is more to do with blessings than *healing*. |
| 09:15.35 | Grum | lol |
| 09:15.39 | Grum | you ever seen em heal? |
| 09:15.43 | cryogen | you kidding? |
| 09:15.48 | cryogen | endurance healing at its best |
| 09:15.52 | Grum | yup |
| 09:16.03 | nevcairiel | but not flexible enough |
| 09:16.04 | Grum | and both trees/paladins have that |
| 09:16.08 | cryogen | put a shadowpriest in a paladin group and you have to challenge the paladin to use any mana at all |
| 09:16.21 | Codayus | Priests are *quite* good at endurance healing, and more flexible. If you can find a good priest who hasn't seen the writing on the wall and gone shadow... |
| 09:16.41 | Grum | i figure myself a good priest but seriously, we can use a buff or 2 |
| 09:16.42 | kebinusan | I think priests will have much better endurance .. at least the spirit whores after next patch |
| 09:16.51 | Grum | kebinusan: not really |
| 09:16.58 | Arcaia | shamans are great flex healers |
| 09:17.01 | Arcaia | chain heal ftw. |
| 09:17.02 | Grum | it's still 4spi vs 1mp5 even after the next patch |
| 09:17.06 | Codayus | When I was holy, I stacked spirit and regen, was good at downranking. OOM? Whats that? |
| 09:17.07 | Grum | (on average fights) |
| 09:17.10 | cryogen | yeah i had totally forgot abotu shamans |
| 09:17.17 | cryogen | hi, totems and massive aoe healing |
| 09:17.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:15] <Grum> naked my shield does ~1600 and with 1900+healing it does the same <--because THAT CHANGE ISN'T IN YET |
| 09:17.20 | sag_ich_nicht | HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 09:17.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail Grum |
| 09:17.28 | purl | Grum: Fail. |
| 09:17.31 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: i know but cryogen didnt believe me |
| 09:17.33 | Arcaia | resto shaman my favorite heals. |
| 09:17.34 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: that was his point |
| 09:17.36 | cryogen | heh |
| 09:17.39 | Grum | nub |
| 09:17.49 | Grum | ~taser sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:17.50 | purl | ACTION stuns sag_ich_nicht with a taser, then drags sag_ich_nicht out into the middle of highway 666 |
| 09:17.51 | cryogen | and now im challeneged with finding the patchnotes where it was put in, ages ago :p |
| 09:17.54 | Codayus | sag_ich_nicht: Try to keep up; the point was that the patch notes SAID that the change was in back in...1.8 or so. |
| 09:17.58 | sag_ich_nicht | NO BRO NO |
| 09:18.02 | kebinusan | The thing for me though is priests get healing aggro bam dead at least a paladin can take a hit |
| 09:18.07 | Grum | cryogen: i know it's in there but it was not implemented |
| 09:18.15 | Grum | gearwise priests are so gimped |
| 09:18.24 | Grum | a paladin can easily rack up 9k sta and 2k healing |
| 09:18.32 | Sole | BLESSED RESILIENCE! FACES ! IT SHITS ON THEM |
| 09:18.33 | Grum | a priests can do 2k healing .. but drops to 5.6k sta orso O.o |
| 09:18.37 | Sole | we're talking pvp rite? |
| 09:18.56 | Codayus | Grum: Um, no... |
| 09:18.59 | kebinusan | Im talking pve |
| 09:19.03 | Sole | psssht |
| 09:19.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:18] <kebinusan> The thing for me though is priests get healing aggro bam dead at least a paladin can take a hit <--yeah right |
| 09:19.09 | Codayus | Even gimped pve priests have more hp than that. |
| 09:19.09 | nevcairiel | people who stack up to 2k healing missed the point in alot of high-end fights |
| 09:19.13 | sag_ich_nicht | "healers in plate |
| 09:19.14 | sag_ich_nicht | " |
| 09:19.22 | Grum | yeah about 7.4k selfbuffed is normal |
| 09:19.22 | sag_ich_nicht | HI 12k ~CRUSHING~ |
| 09:19.25 | sag_ich_nicht | PALADIN DIES |
| 09:19.32 | Arcaia | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZxbZEfLtAeotcd my shaman at 70 [when he gets there] |
| 09:19.33 | sag_ich_nicht | NOES |
| 09:19.36 | Sole | l2resilience |
| 09:19.37 | Codayus | And 8k or 9k hp tends to last you about as long if you really do draw aggro. |
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| 09:19.45 | nevcairiel | i hate those healers that run OOM after 1m fighting without shadow priest |
| 09:19.46 | kebinusan | sure they can still die, but its far less likely than a priest dying |
| 09:19.50 | cryogen | cant find it in any of the old notes, maybe they removed it :p |
| 09:19.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Sole: crushing != crit |
| 09:19.52 | sag_ich_nicht | lol noob |
| 09:19.54 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2pve |
| 09:19.55 | kebinusan | a stray cleave on vashj kills a priest easy |
| 09:19.58 | Grum | nevcairiel: that is the only reason is stack massively on mp5 |
| 09:20.02 | kebinusan | but paladins can take a hit if they have to |
| 09:20.05 | Nebulosus | Morning, anyone else having problems with cartographer? none of the instance maps are working |
| 09:20.07 | Grum | kebinusan: where a paladin survives |
| 09:20.08 | xt | nevcairiel: not really |
| 09:20.15 | xt | nevcairiel: we have a druid with over +2200 healing |
| 09:20.16 | Grum | its not so much fun as priest really :( |
| 09:20.19 | Sole | sag_ich_nicht: lol I knew that. but I can still try to fuck with you guys |
| 09:20.21 | xt | and he wins every healing meter |
| 09:20.23 | kebinusan | Grum yeah |
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| 09:20.35 | Tem|AFK | "Don't taser me, bra" |
| 09:20.43 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 09:20.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Sole: lolnow you are trying to get away with being stupid after being correct |
| 09:20.51 | nevcairiel | xt: i have 1700 healing and alot of mana regen being a druid, and i still win every healing meter, whats your point? |
| 09:20.56 | nevcairiel | i can heal without shadow priest |
| 09:21.00 | kebinusan | I tell the locks to SS whoever they think is gonna die first, and they fight over who gets the priest |
| 09:21.04 | phyber | so, to use SinkLib do I just need to load Sink along with my addon and set a 'sink10OutputSink' setting somewhere? BigWigs doesn't seem to do anything except set that and load the addon. |
| 09:21.05 | Arcaia | ive never seen a healer steal aggro from our tanks |
| 09:21.11 | Arcaia | i think it comes down to the tanks. |
| 09:21.20 | xt | nevcairiel: our druid doesnt have shadow priest, and afaik he never runs oom of mana either |
| 09:21.24 | xt | hes good at potting though |
| 09:21.24 | Codayus | Heavily fight dependent. |
| 09:21.25 | Grum | Arcaia: that is never the problem, problem is random dmg |
| 09:21.27 | xt | and potting > regen |
| 09:21.31 | vhaarr | phyber: you only need to set the property if you don't want to use the sink-1.0 default sink by default |
| 09:21.37 | Codayus | But yeah, tree mana consumption tends towards the low end of the scale. |
| 09:21.41 | nevcairiel | regen + potting > * |
| 09:21.43 | kebinusan | Arcaia: its not about stealing aggro, its about random mob spawns, new aggro mobs that arent picked up, etc |
| 09:21.51 | theoddone33 | hate potting |
| 09:21.52 | Codayus | Unless you HT spam. :-) |
| 09:21.53 | kebinusan | and just random oshit damage |
| 09:21.53 | Grum | if a priest gets hit by leo's whirlwind .. really .... he will get aggro from leo because he needs so much healing after O.o |
| 09:22.01 | Sole | sag_ich_nicht: youre right. after 2 years of raiding in vanilla wow I didnt eat my fare share of instagibs so I wouldnt know how it works or anything |
| 09:22.03 | Arcaia | kebinusan: in raid? |
| 09:22.10 | cryogen | see everybody insists they can manage without shadowpriests |
| 09:22.14 | phyber | vhaarr: ahh, cool. so just load it and then pour(blah) in the appropriate places then? :) |
| 09:22.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:22] <Sole> sag_ich_nicht: youre right. after 2 years of raiding in vanilla wow I didnt eat my fare share of instagibs so I wouldnt know how it works or anything <--yeah |
| 09:22.16 | cryogen | yet everyone yells to get one in their group :p |
| 09:22.20 | kebinusan | arcaia, yeah in raids |
| 09:22.22 | Sole | spriests are cool |
| 09:22.25 | sag_ich_nicht | it's good to see you admit that you are wrong Sole |
| 09:22.27 | Sole | they melt shit |
| 09:22.38 | Grum | nevcairiel: i can do fine without shadoom indeed, mp5+pots+alchtinket ftw |
| 09:22.40 | sag_ich_nicht | it was about time |
| 09:22.42 | Codayus | Actually, healers *CAN* manage without shaodwpriests unless you're running with six or so. |
| 09:22.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean seriously wtf man |
| 09:22.44 | Sole | sag_ich_nicht: procrastination at its finest |
| 09:22.44 | Arcaia | kebinusan: what are we raiding with random no-aggro spawns? |
| 09:22.45 | vhaarr | phyber: indeed |
| 09:22.55 | nevcairiel | i generally move myself out of the shadowpriest group, because i know i can play without one |
| 09:22.59 | vhaarr | phyber: where "load it" means "mix it into the addon" |
| 09:23.01 | nevcairiel | our priests run oom instantly |
| 09:23.05 | nevcairiel | and the resto shamans even faster |
| 09:23.06 | Codayus | Mostly, all a shadow priest does is let them skip a few pots. |
| 09:23.09 | Grum | nevcairiel: teach em to play seriously |
| 09:23.09 | phyber | vhaarr: nice, thanks. yeah, mixin :) |
| 09:23.21 | Arcaia | shadowpriests make our paladins infini-mana |
| 09:23.21 | kebinusan | arcaia, vashj mostly atm |
| 09:23.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight get your ass to 70. |
| 09:23.27 | Arcaia | again it comes to the tanks. |
| 09:23.27 | Codayus | nevcairiel: Your priests suck. Your shamans...okay, yeah, CH sucks mana. Lern2stackregen though? |
| 09:23.31 | Grum | raidbuffed i have ~280mp5 orso .. pop my trinket and it goes up for 400 something |
| 09:23.33 | xt | nevcairiel: how far are you in terms of progress? |
| 09:23.38 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50466 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix a stack overflow. |
| 09:23.39 | cryogen | thats it, im putting myself with mages in future |
| 09:23.40 | Grum | my manapots give me back ~3.6kmana orso |
| 09:23.42 | theoddone33 | Grum: which trinket is taht? |
| 09:23.43 | cryogen | damned ungrateful healers :p |
| 09:23.43 | Arcaia | and kebinusan: havent had a shot at vashj myself, so couldnt say there. |
| 09:23.44 | kebinusan | if our kiter is slow and a priest gheals they can get oneshot where a paladin would live, just cest la vie |
| 09:23.45 | nevcairiel | xt: hyjal clear, bt on RoS |
| 09:23.45 | Grum | how can you go oom? :D |
| 09:23.54 | Tem|AFK | cryogen, you a shadow priest? |
| 09:23.57 | Grum | theoddone33: let me look it up - earring from lurker |
| 09:23.57 | cryogen | ya |
| 09:24.02 | Tem|AFK | come to the mage group |
| 09:24.02 | Grum | gives 300spirit ^^ |
| 09:24.04 | Tem|AFK | we like you |
| 09:24.04 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 09:24.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight what level you on atm? |
| 09:24.09 | kebinusan | Arcaia, cleaves, striders, a bad multishot while healing someone else |
| 09:24.11 | theoddone33 | spirit totally doesn't count |
| 09:24.11 | Codayus | Arcane mages shadow priests = best combo |
| 09:24.13 | theoddone33 | <-- paladin |
| 09:24.16 | cryogen | yeah i usually end up with mages |
| 09:24.17 | kebinusan | eh at least it happens wiht our holy priest |
| 09:24.17 | Grum | i popped it with an innervate ... 2800mp5 :D |
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| 09:24.24 | orionshock | wth? |
| 09:24.25 | cryogen | the warlocks try to steal me, but they smell funny |
| 09:24.31 | Tem|AFK | Codayus, why arcane mages? |
| 09:24.34 | cryogen | and wtf, lazy bastards |
| 09:24.38 | Tem|AFK | cryogen, tell the warlocks to fuck off and emotap |
| 09:24.41 | orionshock | lcoal numEntries, numQuests = GetNumQuestLogEntries() -- throws an errors - expecting a = near num Entries |
| 09:24.43 | orionshock | ? |
| 09:24.43 | cryogen | yeah |
| 09:24.44 | cryogen | i do |
| 09:24.49 | Codayus | Tem|AFK: Their DPM sucks; they go dry faster than anyone. |
| 09:24.51 | cryogen | tho i usually steal 1 lock |
| 09:24.51 | Tem|AFK | they have inifinity mana anyway |
| 09:24.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: because arcane mages use a fuckton of mana, but do the most damage |
| 09:24.54 | Tem|AFK | bastards |
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| 09:25.01 | CIA-12 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 09:25.01 | CIA-12 | - File size reduced slightly by representing unsellable items with printable characters. There should be no other effect than a slight loading time reduction. |
| 09:25.01 | CIA-12 | - Price updates |
| 09:25.05 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30665 - Earring of Soulful Meditation |
| 09:25.13 | Fisker- | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1037/ |
| 09:25.14 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:25.20 | Tem|AFK | but arcane isn't worth specing at all |
| 09:25.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK wrong |
| 09:25.27 | Tem|AFK | unless you have 2/5 t5 |
| 09:25.30 | theoddone33 | ahh class: Priest |
| 09:25.33 | cryogen | my ideal group is 3 mages a warlock a shaman and me |
| 09:25.34 | sag_ich_nicht | they do the most PvE damage for a mage |
| 09:25.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: wrong |
| 09:25.37 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 09:25.38 | Tem|AFK | and at least 1 shadow priest with you all the time |
| 09:25.40 | dieck | Grum: nice trinket. 2min CD? |
| 09:25.42 | Codayus | Tem|AFK: Actually, even without 2/5 t5, it can be, depending on the encounter. |
| 09:25.48 | Grum | dieck: yeah |
| 09:25.55 | Grum | it rawks :D |
| 09:25.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: or arcane mage does a fuckton of damage... except on curator >_< |
| 09:25.57 | Codayus | But yeah, you basically need your own personal shadow priest. |
| 09:26.03 | Tem|AFK | hah |
| 09:26.09 | theoddone33 | paladins get a crazy libram from lurker |
| 09:26.13 | theoddone33 | -27 mana off holy light |
| 09:26.21 | Tem|AFK | I think it's gay that mages have to spec by encounter because of resistances |
| 09:26.26 | Tem|AFK | no other class has to deal with that |
| 09:26.28 | Codayus | Not a problem, any raid leader in their right mind makes sure arcane mages get a spriest. |
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| 09:27.01 | nevcairiel | our mages dont have to respec |
| 09:27.06 | nevcairiel | we have like 2 fire and 2 ice |
| 09:27.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem|AFK: they don't have to, spec arcane and your fbs do enough damage still. |
| 09:27.07 | Codayus | Tem|AFK: AH! ALMOST true. Mutilate rogues have to respec vs poison immune mobs. ....of course, mutilate sucks, so you won't have any...but yeah. |
| 09:27.17 | nevcairiel | not even for alar .. we just took the fire :P |
| 09:27.29 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 09:27.32 | sag_ich_nicht | stop this discussion |
| 09:27.34 | cryogen | imagine if there was a shadow immune boss *brr* |
| 09:27.35 | Tem|AFK | SSC has frost immune mobs |
| 09:27.36 | sag_ich_nicht | 61/61/61 |
| 09:27.38 | sag_ich_nicht | who would pwn the most |
| 09:27.43 | nevcairiel | cryogen: there is :) |
| 09:27.51 | Arcaia | Ladies and Gents of #wowace: [mostly Gents] I need a listing of all the best-easily attainable Pre-Kara Paladin tanking gear. |
| 09:27.52 | Arcaia | And go. |
| 09:27.54 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: warlocks, obviously |
| 09:28.00 | cryogen | who? |
| 09:28.16 | CIA-12 | 03bam * r50468 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
| 09:28.17 | CIA-12 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 09:28.17 | CIA-12 | - Attempts to enable and load ItemPrice-1.1 if it was disabled. (Just to follow the behavior of AceLibrary.) |
| 09:28.19 | Ellipsis | Arcaia: there's a website for that :P |
| 09:28.21 | Codayus | Not priests. You'd get a LITTLE benefit from full disc...not much. |
| 09:28.23 | Arcaia | whar? |
| 09:28.25 | Tem|AFK | soul link + UA + conflag? *shudder* |
| 09:28.35 | Grum | it kinda replaced my http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28370 - Bangle of Endless Blessings |
| 09:28.43 | cryogen | nevcairiel: who's that? |
| 09:28.44 | Ether_Man | There's a shadowimmune boss? Where? Im raiding BT and STILL havnt encountered any shadowimmune boss |
| 09:28.45 | Ellipsis | with our felguard and bane \o/ |
| 09:28.47 | Codayus | Don't forget a felguard. |
| 09:29.08 | Tem|AFK | O |
| 09:29.15 | Tem|AFK | I'd be tempted to use the imp, actually |
| 09:29.22 | Tem|AFK | imp gives +fire damage |
| 09:29.26 | [Ammo] | imp > * |
| 09:29.27 | Grum | Ether_Man: that would mean shadowpriests and locks would be terribly gimped |
| 09:29.30 | Ether_Man | Granted we've not even taken first boss in there yet but we have taken everything else :) |
| 09:29.39 | Ether_Man | Grum, not gimped.. useless.. |
| 09:29.45 | Tem|AFK | you aren't using the demon for the absorb here, just for the buffs of having the demon |
| 09:29.49 | Grum | shadoompriests can smite! |
| 09:29.58 | Tem|AFK | lawlsmite is lawl |
| 09:30.06 | Ellipsis | Tem|AFK: you mean DS imp instead of FG? |
| 09:30.22 | Grum | Ether_Man: which boss did you skip? Hydross? :D |
| 09:30.22 | Tem|AFK | What's the felguard's bonus if you sac it? |
| 09:30.33 | Ellipsis | half succy half felhunter |
| 09:30.33 | Ether_Man | They'd be dealing only a very small fraction of their intended dps.. a mage dpsing in the wrong tree still deals quite some dmg :/ |
| 09:30.41 | Grum | Tem|AFK: +10 Being Lonely |
| 09:30.42 | Ether_Man | Grum, we have skipped no boss :) |
| 09:30.50 | Ellipsis | but why would you DS when you have DK... |
| 09:31.00 | Ether_Man | felguard is 10%dmg and mana regen |
| 09:31.02 | Ellipsis | I mean, you have all the good pet-using talents, sac is a waste |
| 09:31.08 | kadrahil | !ap 2435 |
| 09:31.08 | ThraeBot | kadrahil: Arena points from a rating of 2435 is, 2v2: 928, 3v3: 1061, 5v5: 1326 |
| 09:31.13 | Tem|AFK | Dk is really what I was talking about |
| 09:31.13 | kadrahil | O_o |
| 09:31.22 | ramoz | whats the difference between ItemPrice-1.0 and ItemPrice-1.1 |
| 09:31.27 | Grum | kadrahil: you have that rating? O.o |
| 09:31.28 | Tem|AFK | Ether_Man, unless the mob is immune to that tree |
| 09:31.31 | Ellipsis | that's not school specific then Tem|AFK |
| 09:31.34 | kadrahil | Grum: some team on illidan does |
| 09:31.41 | Grum | 5v5? |
| 09:31.50 | Ellipsis | Arcaia: http://www.wow-loot.com/paladin.htm click "show only prot gear" |
| 09:31.51 | kadrahil | Grum: yeah |
| 09:31.53 | kadrahil | Grum: http://wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Illidan&ts=5&t=Bad+Dot+Com&select=Bad+Dot+Com |
| 09:31.57 | Grum | thats scary O.o |
| 09:32.09 | kadrahil | very |
| 09:32.20 | Tem|AFK | I still think it's lame that mages have encounters where they are screwed if they are speced for a particular tre |
| 09:32.21 | Tem|AFK | e |
| 09:32.23 | Grum | they get the new weapons/gear/whatever in 2-3 weeks O.o |
| 09:32.36 | Ether_Man | Tem|AFK, like I said.. a mage can switch to another school of damage and still deal quite a punch even if it's not as much as their correct spec.. locks and shadowpriests deal only a very small fraction of their dps using the wrong school |
| 09:32.49 | Tem|AFK | Ether_Man, have you ever _tried_ doing that? |
| 09:32.54 | Tem|AFK | it sucks. hard |
| 09:33.00 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 09:33.05 | Tem|AFK | if you are speced fire, spamming anything other than fire sucks |
| 09:33.07 | Ellipsis | yeah, with the exception of destro-heavy specs which can still dps pretty hard on their off school |
| 09:33.10 | Codayus | Who was trying to find a patch note about priest shield scaling? |
| 09:33.16 | Codayus | From 2.0.10: "The damage absorption of "Power Word: Shield" added by the caster's bonus healing has been increased to 20%." |
| 09:33.35 | Tem|AFK | also, Ether_Man, there aren't any shadow immune raid bosses to my knowledge |
| 09:33.42 | Codayus | So it *IS* supposed to scale already. |
| 09:33.45 | Ellipsis | tbh if they ever added a mix of shadow-immune and fire-immune locks would all go destro |
| 09:33.47 | Ether_Man | Tem|AFK, not as much as a shadowpriest using holy or a shadowlock using fire |
| 09:33.49 | Tem|AFK | there are several fire and frost immune bosses |
| 09:34.05 | Ether_Man | Only one fire and one frost to mine :/ |
| 09:34.15 | cryogen | Codayus: yeah i knew it wa |
| 09:34.16 | cryogen | s |
| 09:34.20 | Ellipsis | are you counting TBC, Ether_Man? |
| 09:34.24 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 09:34.26 | cryogen | the thing is, its such a small shitty bonus, you might think that it doesnt |
| 09:34.32 | Ether_Man | Ellipsis, only tbc is intresting currently |
| 09:34.34 | Tem|AFK | pre-tbc like half the bosses were fire immune |
| 09:34.37 | Ellipsis | that's my point |
| 09:34.42 | Tem|AFK | because they aparently hated mages |
| 09:34.44 | Ellipsis | MC is hell for a fire mage (no pun intended) |
| 09:34.50 | Ether_Man | pretbc, fire was a pvp spec |
| 09:34.57 | Tem|AFK | lawl |
| 09:35.00 | Tem|AFK | not for good mages |
| 09:35.06 | Tem|AFK | frost has _always_ been the pvp spec |
| 09:35.07 | Arrowmaster | also some things seem to be restricted on spell schools, like the bog lords in SSC can be vulrinable to a magic school, never ever seen one shadow |
| 09:35.08 | nevcairiel | our mages have mostly always been fire, before tbc and now |
| 09:35.10 | smoke_ | thats why every mage was frost back in the da |
| 09:35.10 | cryogen | actually MC was ok for fire mages |
| 09:35.11 | smoke_ | day |
| 09:35.14 | smoke_ | for mc/bwl |
| 09:35.15 | Ellipsis | then again, isn't there some frost stuff in naxx? |
| 09:35.19 | Tem|AFK | there is |
| 09:35.22 | cryogen | it was a big myth that fire sucked in mc :p |
| 09:35.29 | Tem|AFK | people started specing fire for pve when aq came out |
| 09:35.34 | Tem|AFK | and it worked well in naxx too |
| 09:35.45 | Arrowmaster | but ignite rollled back then too |
| 09:35.51 | Tem|AFK | <3 |
| 09:35.55 | Arrowmaster | so fire was totally imba if done right |
| 09:35.57 | smoke_ | yup rolling ignites were bad ass |
| 09:36.00 | cryogen | stop it, you're making my miss my mage :p |
| 09:36.11 | cryogen | poor little gnome is still level 60 |
| 09:36.19 | Ether_Man | Yes towards the end there it changed quite a bit.. especially after the mage revamp.. but before all that.. fire was seen as nothing but a pvp spec |
| 09:36.19 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 09:36.29 | Ellipsis | I've been tempted at times to switch lock-> mage |
| 09:36.29 | nevcairiel | rolling ignite was a aggro bomb waiting to go off |
| 09:36.32 | SunTsu | cryogen: It's not a myth that our fire mage died at every single mob group im mc :) |
| 09:36.33 | Tem|AFK | and then, it wasn't even a good pvp spec |
| 09:36.37 | nevcairiel | we screamed soooo often at mages ebcause of it |
| 09:36.39 | Ellipsis | because I don't PvP >_> |
| 09:36.40 | cryogen | SunTsu: haha |
| 09:36.49 | Fisker- | oh u nevcairiel |
| 09:36.54 | cryogen | rolling ignites both sucked and rocked |
| 09:36.58 | cryogen | depending on who got the tick |
| 09:36.59 | Tem|AFK | fire was okay for pvp when mixed with enough frost to get iceblock |
| 09:37.00 | Fisker- | you better start blackmailing slouken soon |
| 09:37.07 | cryogen | the dps meters majorly skewed to that person :) |
| 09:37.24 | cryogen | and if you got none of them, your dps looked real bad |
| 09:37.26 | Arrowmaster | if you had a bunch of fire mages with rolling ignites couldnt a mage get killed and still be doing all the ignite damage? |
| 09:37.28 | Ellipsis | it's like gambling on bosses |
| 09:37.31 | Ellipsis | \o/ |
| 09:37.44 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be) |
| 09:37.50 | Tem|AFK | Arrowmaster, I think so |
| 09:37.55 | Arcaia | im gonna secretly change my gfs paladin from holy to prot. |
| 09:37.58 | cryogen | if you roll it indefinately, sure :p |
| 09:38.01 | Arcaia | because she hates being a healbot. |
| 09:38.04 | Tem|AFK | but generally, when agro gets loose, people don't keep dpsing and the roll stops |
| 09:38.12 | Arrowmaster | ah true |
| 09:38.16 | Tem|AFK | plus was pretty hard to keep it going indefinitely |
| 09:38.20 | Arrowmaster | well generally |
| 09:38.26 | Arrowmaster | that doesnt happen in our raids |
| 09:38.27 | Tem|AFK | not always, I know |
| 09:38.29 | CIA-12 | 03phyber * r50469 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc Libs/ TopScoreFu.lua embeds.xml): |
| 09:38.29 | CIA-12 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: |
| 09:38.29 | CIA-12 | - Change from Soar -> Sink. |
| 09:38.37 | Ellipsis | finally |
| 09:38.41 | Ellipsis | <3 phyber |
| 09:39.08 | phyber | Ellipsis: if you're lucky, it will work too! ;) |
| 09:39.11 | Ellipsis | uh oh :P |
| 09:39.18 | Ellipsis | will it work *right* though? |
| 09:39.19 | phyber | I'm at work, so can't test until later. |
| 09:39.28 | Arrowmaster | its like hey a warlock just pulled aggro soulshattered and got our top shadowpriest killed again and nobody slowed down dps |
| 09:39.30 | Ellipsis | 'cause it hasn't been obeying my ignore healing setting |
| 09:39.37 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 09:40.14 | cryogen | yeah, i dont need a threat meter |
| 09:40.19 | cryogen | i just run away when warlocks get aggro |
| 09:40.36 | Codayus | Warlocks pull aggro? |
| 09:40.39 | Codayus | That must be nice. |
| 09:40.46 | cryogen | well they are more likely to than me |
| 09:40.49 | Ellipsis | soulshatter cd is way too long tbh |
| 09:40.52 | nevcairiel | cryogen: would kinda suck for you when the warlock plays with threat meter and slows donw =P |
| 09:41.00 | Arrowmaster | one of our shamans pays us everytime that certain shadowpriest gets aggro dumped on him from soulshatter, or when the pallys dont give him salv |
| 09:41.02 | cryogen | unless i end up with wisdom instead of salvation |
| 09:41.02 | Codayus | After some heavy attrition in the class, our warlocks are struggling to out DPS the MT, much less out TPS him. :-( |
| 09:41.05 | cryogen | which happens a lot |
| 09:41.12 | Ellipsis | I don't even look at my threat meter until shatter's on cd |
| 09:41.19 | Grum | Codayus: LOL .. |
| 09:41.23 | Codayus | I know. |
| 09:41.26 | Grum | they need 2 buttons to do dps |
| 09:41.29 | buu | Codayus: Burn them to deat. |
| 09:41.30 | Fisker- | so nevcairiel |
| 09:41.33 | buu | Grum: Only in the black temple =[ |
| 09:41.37 | Fisker- | it's going to be slouken or you :O |
| 09:41.42 | Arrowmaster | huh what? |
| 09:41.47 | Grum | buu: how do you mean? |
| 09:41.49 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 07jerry * r50470 10Grid/Grid/GridFrame.lua: Grid: (branch) bugfix, GridFrame object is not the Grid Frame object. |
| 09:41.50 | Arrowmaster | only 2 buttons in bt? whats this? |
| 09:41.50 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: no u |
| 09:41.54 | Fisker- | no u |
| 09:41.58 | Ellipsis | wait what? |
| 09:42.03 | Ellipsis | did someone say firelocks? |
| 09:42.08 | Arrowmaster | i use like 6 buttons |
| 09:42.11 | Codayus | But there's nobody left in guild who knows much about locks. |
| 09:42.28 | nevcairiel | we've one destro lock |
| 09:42.37 | Codayus | So, I think our top lock is doing around 500 DPS or so. *sigh* |
| 09:42.38 | Grum | Codayus: being a lock is reaaaaly easy, if you can not do 600dps as a lock you really must suck :) |
| 09:42.41 | nevcairiel | two affliction, and 2 demo |
| 09:42.42 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 09:42.42 | Arrowmaster | got curse, shadowbolt, ua, corr, siphon, dp, lt |
| 09:42.46 | Ellipsis | still shouldn't be fire nevcairiel |
| 09:42.48 | smoke_ | anyone here use pitbull? |
| 09:43.00 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: why not? with incenerate its pretty much the same |
| 09:43.03 | cryogen | Codayus: get new locks :) |
| 09:43.05 | smoke_ | im having a problem with the rangechecking working with my party frame.. i have it enabled and the modules are running, but its not fading out |
| 09:43.20 | smoke_ | my focus/target frame work fine against hostile units |
| 09:43.21 | Codayus | cryogen: We're recuiting. Know any? :-) |
| 09:43.23 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: have you seen the numbers? |
| 09:43.25 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r50471 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua: BigWigs: CustomBar: frFR Update |
| 09:43.28 | Hjalte | Codayus, i did 600 dps sustained as 65 demonology lock in an instance the other day |
| 09:43.28 | buu | Grum: 2 button lock dps is only in the black temple =[ |
| 09:43.31 | cryogen | Codayus: i have a level 49 one? |
| 09:43.32 | Ellipsis | also, wrt 2 buttons: http://bazik.org/pub/wow/dpssigay8.jpg |
| 09:43.37 | xt | nevcairiel: uh |
| 09:43.38 | xt | no |
| 09:43.41 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: i see the dps of said firedestro lock |
| 09:43.42 | smoke_ | but friendlys show up as full opacity even when they're not in range |
| 09:43.45 | xt | shadowlocks >>>>>>>>>>>> fire |
| 09:43.45 | Grum | buu: howso? any destro specced lock could do with just 2 buttons ^^ |
| 09:43.46 | buu | Codayus: Which faction are you? |
| 09:43.51 | Codayus | Alliance |
| 09:43.53 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel, have you seen him spec shadow dest? |
| 09:43.55 | buu | Grum: Yes, but destro sucks are hilariously bad pre-bt |
| 09:44.05 | Arrowmaster | none of our locks will touch fire because we all dont want to be suck with nothing but unimproved lifetap |
| 09:44.06 | cryogen | we have a fire lock |
| 09:44.07 | cryogen | he does ok |
| 09:44.11 | xt | 0/21/40 shadow destruction |
| 09:44.13 | buu | Firelocks are just silly. |
| 09:44.13 | Codayus | Our recruitment efforts seem to turn up nothing but hunters. |
| 09:44.16 | xt | is by far the best dps |
| 09:44.18 | Ellipsis | lol Arrowmaster |
| 09:44.25 | buu | xt: Yes.. in the black temple |
| 09:44.28 | Arrowmaster | im serious |
| 09:44.28 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i need to respec my warlock alt |
| 09:44.31 | Ellipsis | tbh, I played firelock when I leveled destro in TBC |
| 09:44.33 | Ellipsis | it sucked |
| 09:44.33 | xt | buu: in everything ! |
| 09:44.37 | Grum | buu: i dont get what BT has to do with it |
| 09:44.38 | buu | xt: uh, no. |
| 09:44.42 | nevcairiel | i couldnt level destro |
| 09:44.42 | buu | Grum: Gear. |
| 09:44.48 | nevcairiel | too much mage feeling |
| 09:44.48 | Codayus | We haven't run a raid with 6 hunters yet, but it's only a matter of time. |
| 09:44.48 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 09:44.53 | Grum | how much +spell dmg/crit do they stack then? |
| 09:44.55 | xt | buu: from like 1000shadow dmg and up its superior for sure |
| 09:44.56 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't have if I didn't have a healbot on autofollow |
| 09:44.56 | Arrowmaster | i still use full frozenshadoweave to help heal myself from lifetaping when my imps oom |
| 09:44.57 | Codayus | We've had 5 a couple times, and 4 is normal. |
| 09:44.58 | cryogen | Codayus: we're lucky to get 1 hunter in a raid |
| 09:44.59 | Grum | because preBT you can easily get 1300 |
| 09:44.59 | buu | xt: Naw. |
| 09:45.01 | xt | buu: and you get that with craftables |
| 09:45.03 | Codayus | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.12 | cryogen | Codayus: we're lucky to have less than 5 warlocks also :p |
| 09:45.14 | Codayus | It's okay, our hunters do 2x the damage of our locks so it's fine. |
| 09:45.17 | buu | xt: You can get to 1000 damage but you lack spelhit and crit to make it viable. |
| 09:45.20 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer taralish |
| 09:45.23 | orionshock | ahh... |
| 09:45.23 | ThraeBot | Grum: Taralish, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/21/40). 8745 HP; 7380 Mana; 115 mana regen; 211 spell crit; 61 spell hit; 451 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (630); 230 shadow dmg (681); 4.72% dodge;[[ TBR: 1116 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2y6oma ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3al9tp ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 05:45:27 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:45.25 | buu | Codayus: What faction are you on? |
| 09:45.29 | Codayus | Alliance |
| 09:45.36 | buu | Well duh. |
| 09:45.37 | nevcairiel | for leveling the felguard rocks, but i hit 70 this week, and i basicly wanted to get more stuff into affiliction again |
| 09:45.38 | cryogen | ah.. makes sense |
| 09:45.43 | Grum | even that bumps up to ~1010 kara-buffed |
| 09:45.52 | Arrowmaster | !c us burning legion tokrim |
| 09:45.54 | ThraeBot | Arrowmaster: Tokrim, Level 70 Orc Warlock (42/0/19). 8080 HP; 7465 Mana; 150 mana regen; 41 mp5; 67 spell crit; 158 spell hit; 769 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (1002); 368 shadow dmg (1137); 4.24% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 940 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c9o3f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37je8e ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 05:45:58 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:45.56 | buu | Grum: That's.. terrible. |
| 09:45.57 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | firelocks suck balls for raiding |
| 09:45.58 | xt | Grum: 61 spell hit |
| 09:46.00 | xt | hehe |
| 09:46.03 | buu | Yeah. |
| 09:46.12 | Grum | buu: just an alt (2wks lvl70 orso) |
| 09:46.13 | xt | but 211 crit |
| 09:46.18 | cryogen | !c eu haomarush Galencia |
| 09:46.19 | buu | Grum: Oh good. |
| 09:46.20 | ThraeBot | cryogen: Galencia, Level 70 Undead Priest (7/0/54). 7951 HP; 10755 Mana; 191 mana regen; 111 spell crit; 65 spell hit; 706 +spell dmg/heal; 107 frost dmg (813); 158 shadow dmg (864); 5.14% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 946 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22qlfs ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c86na ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 05:46:24 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:46.20 | Codayus | !c us Lightbringer Miaku |
| 09:46.21 | xt | Grum: hit is more dps than crit :D |
| 09:46.24 | ThraeBot | Codayus: Miaku, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/14/47). 11410 HP; 9595 Mana; 126 mana regen; 290 spell crit; 87 spell hit; 858 +spell dmg/heal; 4.59% dodge; 48 resilience;[[ TBR: 566 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytch8u ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35r2gc ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 05:46:27 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:46.29 | Arrowmaster | my crit sucks |
| 09:46.31 | *** join/#wowace Sirow (n=Miranda_@p57A4EDBF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:46.31 | cryogen | look at that mana baby! |
| 09:46.36 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | !c eu Alleria Deidra |
| 09:46.36 | Codayus | Our best warlock these days. Fire spec. |
| 09:46.38 | ThraeBot | Deidra-AlleriaEU: Deidra, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (0/21/40). 9775 HP; 9110 Mana; 108 mana regen; 231 spell crit; 177 spell hit; 941 +spell dmg/heal; 157 shadow dmg (1098); 4.88% dodge; 11 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 844 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29l6fc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34utkb ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 05:46:42 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:46.38 | buu | xt: You really don't get the gear for destro until bt+ |
| 09:46.45 | buu | Codayus: That's awesome. |
| 09:46.50 | Codayus | I know. |
| 09:46.52 | xt | buu: you dont need much crit for it to be viable |
| 09:46.55 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Codayus: Yes, because he fucks the others |
| 09:47.01 | xt | buu: like even 20% is enough |
| 09:47.02 | buu | xt: Sure, but you need high damage and maxed spell hit. |
| 09:47.06 | Grum | buu: how much do they stack in BT then? |
| 09:47.10 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Codayus: Fire = EgoDPS, no Raid Support |
| 09:47.13 | buu | xt: and you can't get that *and* 20+ crit in kara. |
| 09:47.20 | xt | buu: which isnt really hard, especially if you have elemental shaman |
| 09:47.24 | xt | which is +4% hit |
| 09:47.24 | Arrowmaster | fuck raid support |
| 09:47.30 | xt | then you only need like 130 hit rating |
| 09:47.31 | buu | Grum: About 1200 shadow and 25+ crit I think. |
| 09:47.36 | cryogen | see we have good locks |
| 09:47.40 | Tem|AFK | !c temaile garona us |
| 09:47.44 | Arrowmaster | im 42/0/19 and dont have points in any talents for raid support |
| 09:47.44 | Arcaia | Tenacious Defender |
| 09:47.46 | Tem|AFK | !c us garona temaile |
| 09:47.47 | cryogen | like one who has imp curses and full 5/5 shadow embrace |
| 09:47.49 | ThraeBot | Tem|AFK: Temaile, Level 70 Human Mage (0/7/54). 9873 HP; 8711 Mana; 131 mana regen; 194 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 756 +spell dmg/heal; 5.02% dodge; 280 resilience;[[ TBR: 915 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22lt8g ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c3efv ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 05:47:52 2007 EST ]] |
| 09:47.55 | Grum | buu: so that is only 5% more crit |
| 09:47.57 | Arcaia | is now my favorite-est Item in the game |
| 09:48.02 | Arcaia | !i Tenacious Defender |
| 09:48.03 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Name: Tenacious Defender; Rarity: Rare (Blue); BoP; Plate Belt; +19 Stamina; +14 Agility; +15 Strength; 2 Yellow socket(s); 2 Red socket(s); +3 Resilience Rating socket bonus; Requires L60; 45 Durability; Drops off: Omor the Unscarred (Hellfire Ramparts); Drop Rate: Medium. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=24091 ][ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24091 ]] |
| 09:48.04 | buu | Grum: And maxed spell hit. |
| 09:48.04 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Arrowmaster: You don't have improves Shadowbolt? |
| 09:48.09 | Arcaia | crap... no flavor text. |
| 09:48.13 | Grum | buu: ~204 orso ? |
| 09:48.13 | Arrowmaster | well duh i have that |
| 09:48.15 | xt | Arrowmaster: wow, that is horrible spec:) |
| 09:48.17 | buu | Grum: 202, yes. |
| 09:48.17 | Arcaia | "It has the power.... to move you" |
| 09:48.18 | Codayus | It has the power...to MOVE you! |
| 09:48.22 | Arcaia | YES!!!! |
| 09:48.24 | Arrowmaster | xt: my spec rocks |
| 09:48.32 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Arrowmaster: Improved Shadowbolt is THE Raidsupport Talent |
| 09:48.32 | xt | Arrowmaster: you need less points in destruction |
| 09:48.36 | xt | Arrowmaster: or ALOT more |
| 09:48.39 | Grum | think our top lock has ~186hit, ~22 crit and ~1250 shadoomdmg |
| 09:48.48 | cryogen | improved shadowbolt, we like that |
| 09:48.53 | Arrowmaster | 19 is a perfect amount of points in destro |
| 09:49.02 | buu | If you're going UA |
| 09:49.07 | SunTsu | .o0( I hate warlocks ;) One of them got lvl70 2 Weeks ago and got 3 T4-Items in a single Week. I am lvl70 like forever and still just got one T4-Item *g* ) |
| 09:49.19 | buu | SunTsu: t4 is fucking terrible for locks. |
| 09:49.22 | buu | SunTsu: Kick his ass out =] |
| 09:49.32 | Ellipsis | 43/0/18 go |
| 09:49.36 | buu | Ellipsis: Yeah. |
| 09:49.38 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | buu, the 2t4 bonus is pretty sweet though |
| 09:49.40 | buu | Ellipsis: I just wish it scaled with crit. |
| 09:49.43 | [Ammo] | my paladin got 8 pieces of kara loot saturday evening :) |
| 09:49.47 | Grum | t4 gloves are acceptable for a lock |
| 09:49.49 | [Ammo] | went from scrub to being ok :) |
| 09:49.50 | Arrowmaster | 158 hit, 67 crit, 1237 +shadow for my lock |
| 09:49.57 | Arrowmaster | WTF are you smoking |
| 09:49.57 | buu | Grum: Not when Flowing Thought exists.. |
| 09:49.59 | *** join/#wowace woden (n=Woden@86-40-154-216.b-ras1.srl.dublin.eircom.net) |
| 09:50.04 | Arrowmaster | T4 gloves are fucking trash |
| 09:50.07 | Codayus | If flowing thought drops for you... |
| 09:50.08 | Arrowmaster | TRASH |
| 09:50.10 | Grum | 'okish' ^^ |
| 09:50.16 | buu | Codayus: It's like a 20% drop off the first mob |
| 09:50.19 | buu | You'll see it. |
| 09:50.26 | [Ammo] | get the Mag gloves at least |
| 09:50.30 | Ellipsis | honestly, I wasn't sure whether iHoT was gonna be worth it |
| 09:50.37 | Ellipsis | in retrospect, I was an idiot |
| 09:50.40 | Codayus | buu: Heh, you SAY that... I finally got them after a couple months. |
| 09:50.41 | Grum | what is it? |
| 09:50.46 | buu | Ellipsis: Well, it's not a raid talent.. |
| 09:50.46 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50472 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix nil bug. |
| 09:50.51 | Codayus | Got cursed at by half the locks and all the other spriests in the guild. |
| 09:50.54 | buu | Codayus: Heh, it took me like 4 months to get them. Not the point! |
| 09:51.00 | Ellipsis | Codayus: flowing thought was the first drop I saw off that boss |
| 09:51.05 | SunTsu | buu: Well, my guild still is in Kara and Gruul, so, it's the best besides Arena2 |
| 09:51.08 | buu | Ellipsis: Yeah, I think I passed on them at one point. |
| 09:51.09 | Codayus | Actually, our MT still wants the plate legs off curator. |
| 09:51.15 | buu | SunTsu: Er, what is? |
| 09:51.21 | xt | get akama legs |
| 09:51.21 | xt | ! |
| 09:51.26 | Codayus | He's been running Kara every reset since he hit 70... |
| 09:51.31 | Codayus | ...they haven't dropped. |
| 09:51.31 | buu | Codayus: Heh, yeah. |
| 09:51.40 | Ellipsis | of course my lock is still not kara keyed |
| 09:51.46 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Codayus: ouch. |
| 09:51.47 | buu | Codayus: Tell him to equip a luck charm. |
| 09:51.52 | Grum | lets say we killed gruul about 20 times since he last dropped a shield |
| 09:51.53 | orionshock | help |
| 09:51.54 | Codayus | He actually gave up a couple weeks ago; says he'll wait for t5, and just use a 5-man blue until then. |
| 09:51.55 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/74642 |
| 09:51.55 | Grum | our MT is not happy ^^ |
| 09:52.04 | orionshock | what am i doing wrong :( |
| 09:52.06 | Arrowmaster | we've never seen the caster sword from gruul |
| 09:52.23 | Codayus | Arrowmaster: Gah, we've started DEing that sword. |
| 09:52.27 | buu | Arrowmaster: I still want one =[ |
| 09:52.29 | buu | Codayus: Hate. |
| 09:52.43 | Grum | orionshock: what is the error? :) |
| 09:52.44 | buu | I just wish the s2 arena sword wasn't so much better. |
| 09:52.47 | Codayus | All we get from him is mail and that sword. |
| 09:52.51 | theoddone33 | I really don't think there's anything I want off gruul |
| 09:52.53 | theoddone33 | or maulgar |
| 09:52.56 | theoddone33 | which is really depressing |
| 09:53.01 | orionshock | Grum: table index is nil |
| 09:53.02 | Codayus | Why the HELL isn't it a DAGGER. |
| 09:53.05 | Grum | Theo[FH]2: which class? |
| 09:53.10 | buu | Codayus: There's already a dagger. |
| 09:53.12 | Arrowmaster | i had the dagger from prince but got the s2 sword instead since its the best thing till hyjal |
| 09:53.13 | theoddone33 | paladin |
| 09:53.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Codayus: because you touch yourself at night |
| 09:53.19 | Codayus | And soon we'll have Leo down, so we can start deing more swords. >< |
| 09:53.24 | theoddone33 | I guess the tier set would be fine |
| 09:53.30 | Grum | orionshock: what line? |
| 09:53.32 | orionshock | Grum: line 8 |
| 09:53.33 | kandarz | how can I delete a table value? table[subtable1][subtable2], I want to delete all of subtable2 |
| 09:53.34 | theoddone33 | I don't really think about those because of the turn in thing |
| 09:53.38 | Codayus | buu: Prince doesn't count. And the next dagger is in BT... |
| 09:53.43 | Grum | theoddone33: healing? |
| 09:53.46 | sb | Arrowmaster: offhand, right? :o |
| 09:53.48 | Grum | the neck is nice of gruul |
| 09:53.49 | buu | Codayus: Why not? |
| 09:53.49 | theoddone33 | yes |
| 09:53.58 | Arrowmaster | sb: no mainhand |
| 09:54.07 | sb | uhm |
| 09:54.08 | theoddone33 | hm yeah it's ok |
| 09:54.09 | Grum | orionshock: why do you do a tinsert? |
| 09:54.10 | theoddone33 | I have the pvp neck |
| 09:54.12 | Grum | that's not needed |
| 09:54.14 | buu | Codayus: It's like exactly the same. |
| 09:54.16 | sb | arrow: azshara? |
| 09:54.17 | orionshock | i don't know how :( |
| 09:54.21 | Codayus | Because Prince won't drop it, and everyone else has their loot from him, and the random in-guild alt runs don't get to Prince. |
| 09:54.23 | sb | should be better than S2 |
| 09:54.25 | Codayus | So... |
| 09:54.27 | Arrowmaster | sb: the one from archimond |
| 09:54.31 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Codayus: Doomwalker? |
| 09:54.31 | buu | Owch. |
| 09:54.36 | sb | nono, tidewalker |
| 09:54.36 | orionshock | i want the quest title as the table key and the d&T stamp as values |
| 09:54.38 | buu | Codayus: Time to get pvping |
| 09:54.40 | Codayus | I can't get the prince dagger. And Doomwalker is waaay too camped. |
| 09:54.49 | Codayus | So yeah, played my first arena games laster week. |
| 09:54.59 | Arrowmaster | tidewalker doesnt drop a caster weapon |
| 09:54.59 | Codayus | Maybe ZA will have a freaking spriest weapon. |
| 09:55.05 | cryogen | Codayus: one can only hope |
| 09:55.08 | buu | Never. |
| 09:55.17 | theoddone33 | I'd gain 8 int, 3 mp5 and 2 heal from the gruul neck, and lose a yellow socket |
| 09:55.22 | Codayus | Caster staves tend to suck... |
| 09:55.27 | Codayus | For pve. |
| 09:55.30 | buu | cryogen: Yeah, I was so damn happy when I got that currator staff.. 18 months ago. |
| 09:55.30 | Ellipsis | and don't get em started on never being able to get the drops you want |
| 09:55.35 | cryogen | buu: :) |
| 09:55.38 | Ellipsis | sash of serpentra and greatsword of horrid dreams REFUSE to drop around me |
| 09:55.41 | buu | cryogen: =/ |
| 09:55.50 | neenee | That staff from the Arena of Blood is great though :) |
| 09:55.52 | cryogen | i like staves in general, but yeah something new would be cool |
| 09:55.54 | Ellipsis | I've started actively searching out groups that are already in progress so I'm not seeding the loot tables |
| 09:56.01 | Ellipsis | and I'm not a superstitious person! |
| 09:56.11 | buu | cryogen: I wish the staves had equivalent stats to the sword/oh though. |
| 09:56.15 | Codayus | I like the IDEA of staves, but Bliz itemized staves with heavy stats and little dmg. |
| 09:56.19 | Codayus | I'd prefer the reverse. |
| 09:56.29 | cryogen | i like staves FOR the stats :) |
| 09:56.43 | cryogen | but that's just me, im weird |
| 09:56.48 | Ellipsis | I haven't yet found a staff that was an upgrade from my current items |
| 09:56.50 | Grum | orionshock: you want to put something in a table you dont need to do tinsert |
| 09:56.51 | buu | Too bad stats are useless in pve |
| 09:56.53 | neenee | Outland is more about survival than dps anyway |
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| 09:56.54 | Arrowmaster | blame the way bliz removes dps to add +dmg |
| 09:57.03 | Grum | you either select the index or use tinsert to put it at the *end* of the able |
| 09:57.07 | Ellipsis | and my OH is a pre-TBC epic... |
| 09:57.13 | buu | Although we had a made on solarian who had like, 6k hp. That didn't go over too well. |
| 09:57.20 | cryogen | heh |
| 09:57.22 | Arrowmaster | im still using a bwl ring |
| 09:57.25 | buu | Ellipsis: The +121 damage staves aren't an upgrade? |
| 09:57.36 | Grum | humz foodtime |
| 09:57.39 | Ellipsis | buu: which, you mean warpstaff et al? |
| 09:57.42 | cryogen | if i could find a decent main hand i would drop my staff in a second |
| 09:57.47 | cryogen | but.. no dice |
| 09:57.50 | buu | Ellipsis: There's a couple. |
| 09:57.55 | Ellipsis | warpstaff would be an upgrade for me now (green dagger lulz) but not if I could get greatsword |
| 09:57.56 | cryogen | this staff is better than the blue mainhands |
| 09:58.21 | theoddone33 | eye of gruul mana thing is interesting |
| 09:58.25 | Codayus | I'm using the Lower City exalted mace for now; it's pretty good. (Or is it Shat exalted?) |
| 09:58.28 | theoddone33 | but I dunno, it'd be situational |
| 09:58.29 | cryogen | what i really need is arena mace, but lazyness ftw |
| 09:58.43 | cryogen | Codayus: yeah, thats the only one i would consider switching to |
| 09:58.47 | Codayus | But it's going to be getting a little outdated by BT, and that's the next pve upgrade. >< |
| 09:58.47 | cryogen | but cba to get rep either |
| 09:59.05 | buu | Lower City. |
| 09:59.14 | cryogen | s/that/than/ |
| 09:59.14 | theoddone33 | lower city is damage, shatar is healing |
| 09:59.21 | buu | cryogen: You just have to run some instances. |
| 09:59.30 | cryogen | yeah.. boring |
| 09:59.32 | cryogen | givf alts :p |
| 09:59.38 | buu | Eh.. |
| 09:59.46 | cryogen | (my server is low pop, and SUCKS for instances) |
| 09:59.56 | buu | I think beating an instance for the 20th time is mildly more interesting than grinding yet another 200 rat spleens. |
| 10:00.02 | Arrowmaster | my server is medium pop release day |
| 10:00.07 | Industrial | ur mom is low pop and sucks for instances |
| 10:00.08 | Industrial | LOL |
| 10:00.12 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | haha |
| 10:00.13 | Ellipsis | buu: ....no |
| 10:00.14 | Arrowmaster | EVERYBODY IS TOO FUCKING STUPID TO DO INSTANCES! |
| 10:00.19 | buu | Ellipsis: HA HA YES. |
| 10:00.29 | cryogen | Industrial: my mother is deceased, but thanks for reminding me |
| 10:00.30 | Ellipsis | at least rat spleens don't ninja pull when you're OOM and then die on top of you so you get raped by 3 packs |
| 10:00.40 | Ellipsis | and then the healer says "oh, what? sorry, I was afk" |
| 10:00.43 | buu | You're a lock. Suck it up. |
| 10:00.51 | Ellipsis | ..sorry, I'm getting bitter about 5mans |
| 10:00.55 | Industrial | cryogen: *thumbs up* |
| 10:00.58 | buu | I consider it a bad day if I can't solo two sets of mobs =[ |
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| 10:01.04 | cryogen | also getting random groups as a shadowpriest is remarkably difficult |
| 10:01.06 | cryogen | on my server |
| 10:01.13 | Ellipsis | buu: without a healer? gg |
| 10:01.18 | buu | cryogen: Yeah, those offspecs get screwed in 5mans |
| 10:01.21 | buu | Ellipsis: Yes. |
| 10:01.26 | Ellipsis | I like shadowpriests in my 5mans |
| 10:01.29 | cryogen | getting a group in itself is hard enough |
| 10:01.29 | theoddone33 | I would probably quit the game or just pvp if I had to pug 5 mans |
| 10:01.39 | Ellipsis | at least when they ask for CoS I'm more willing to go for it than with a mage asking for CoE |
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| 10:01.44 | buu | theoddone33: I rarely have too bad of an experience.. |
| 10:01.58 | theoddone33 | I dunno, it's better as a healer |
| 10:01.58 | buu | Ellipsis: coe is pretty silly in 5 mans =/ |
| 10:02.02 | theoddone33 | you have more control over the group |
| 10:02.03 | Codayus | Hmm, I found spriests tended to be sought after in 5 mans... |
| 10:02.05 | Ellipsis | although shadowpriests at this stage tend to suck at dps, so I don't usually do it anyway |
| 10:02.05 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | so is cos :) |
| 10:02.08 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:01] <cryogen> also getting random groups as a shadowpriest is remarkably difficult <--lol wut |
| 10:02.15 | sag_ich_nicht | SP is fukkin pwn |
| 10:02.19 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 10:02.22 | Ellipsis | buu: I had a mage in a 5man the other day who was a TOTAL meter whore |
| 10:02.35 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: But they're competing with all of the other non-cc offspecs |
| 10:02.37 | Ellipsis | I mean, wanted my soulstone because we had a druid tanking who could brez. |
| 10:02.45 | sag_ich_nicht | CC is totally fucking overrated |
| 10:02.46 | buu | Ellipsis: haha |
| 10:02.48 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Ellipsis: and you told him to suck it? |
| 10:02.52 | Ellipsis | absolutely |
| 10:02.55 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: Yeah, when you out gear the instance. |
| 10:02.58 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 10:03.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't |
| 10:03.04 | Ellipsis | it was a gnome, too |
| 10:03.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i cleared every single heroic instance except for CoT1/2 without any CC |
| 10:03.07 | Ellipsis | you know the drill |
| 10:03.08 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | good. education is essential :) |
| 10:03.13 | sag_ich_nicht | CC is overrated, lern2play |
| 10:03.18 | buu | hahahahaha |
| 10:03.19 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Ellipsis: careful there |
| 10:03.24 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: That's pure gear at that point. |
| 10:03.32 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: And hjow do you construct a group with no cC? |
| 10:03.42 | cryogen | my problem is also that i lack faction with the most annoying instances that noone wants to run |
| 10:03.44 | Ellipsis | very carefully |
| 10:03.48 | cryogen | like, im not even shatar revered :D |
| 10:03.49 | buu | Yeah. |
| 10:03.50 | Ellipsis | dps warrs lulz? |
| 10:03.55 | sag_ich_nicht | pew pew buu |
| 10:03.55 | sag_ich_nicht | pew pew |
| 10:03.57 | sag_ich_nicht | lots of it. |
| 10:04.03 | sag_ich_nicht | !c eu gul'dan ruknor |
| 10:04.06 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/8/53). 7857 HP; 4998 Mana; 95 mana regen; 7 mp5; 7470 Armour; 1376 AP; 229.800 Melee DPS; 23.51% melee crit; 63 melee hit; 31 +spell dmg/heal; 43 holy dmg (74); 7.57% dodge; 5.00% block; 38 resilience;[[ TBR: 958 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hkom9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cuer8 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 06:04:09 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:04.06 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Ellipsis: mock the mages all day. but ...gnomes... no. don't! :) |
| 10:04.08 | sag_ich_nicht | oh damn it logged in pvp equip |
| 10:04.10 | buu | Ellipsis: Heh, I had a heroic shattered halls with like, 2 feral druids, a dps warrior me and a healer. |
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| 10:04.20 | Ellipsis | sorry Deidra-AlleriaEU. the only gnome I've met and liked was a rogue |
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| 10:04.22 | buu | Deidra-AlleriaEU: Goddamn gnomes look so stupid =[ |
| 10:04.25 | cryogen | also i think my guild would be upset if i ran Mech normal instead of raiding with them |
| 10:04.27 | Ellipsis | so gnome mages are still evil in my book |
| 10:04.36 | cryogen | tho i can hide on alts and pretend to not be online :p |
| 10:05.10 | Ellipsis | my guild is starting to wonder if I'm ever going to raid |
| 10:05.12 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Ellipsis: you should mee our bunch of merry gnomes. all cute and friendly and oppressed by them nasty dwarves and such |
| 10:05.12 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 10:05.22 | cryogen | also, web references are great... except when the webserver is offline |
| 10:06.15 | sag_ich_nicht | gnomes are cute |
| 10:06.16 | orionshock | um.... question... i has a variable that i need to turn the value of into a table key |
| 10:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | and deadly |
| 10:06.19 | sag_ich_nicht | shake them |
| 10:06.27 | sag_ich_nicht | and they go BOOM |
| 10:06.40 | sag_ich_nicht | because of all the engineering and alchemists stuff they carry around. |
| 10:06.47 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 10:07.04 | Arcaia | quick - how does one tank as a paladin? |
| 10:07.09 | Ellipsis | dps moar |
| 10:07.12 | cryogen | hit stuff |
| 10:07.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Arcaia: uh |
| 10:07.28 | Tem|AFK | macros imo |
| 10:07.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Arcaia: horde or alliance? |
| 10:07.43 | Arrowmaster | cast holy sheild or whatever that 31pt talent is and win |
| 10:07.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster shaddup noob >< |
| 10:08.02 | Arrowmaster | its true |
| 10:08.05 | Industrial | its all about consumables imho |
| 10:08.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i play a paladin, it's not, stfu noob :O |
| 10:08.23 | Arrowmaster | was he asking how to tank or tank well |
| 10:09.05 | Arcaia | alliance |
| 10:09.24 | smoke_ | does anyone know how i can disable the tooltips when im in combat? |
| 10:09.24 | Arcaia | but thats irrelevant |
| 10:09.52 | Arrowmaster | SoV + 31pt talent and win then |
| 10:10.10 | cryogen | SoV is so much better than SoB :( |
| 10:10.20 | Arcaia | yea, SoV is nice |
| 10:10.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah SoB is a fucking joke |
| 10:10.30 | Arcaia | Consecration/Judgement cycles |
| 10:10.33 | Arcaia | with leetsauce |
| 10:10.47 | Arcaia | what should I spec >.> |
| 10:10.58 | cryogen | 61 holy |
| 10:11.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:09] <Arcaia> but thats irrelevant <--no it's not, SoV |
| 10:11.01 | Arcaia | ... |
| 10:11.12 | Arrowmaster | i heard SoB was nice for ret back when it caused everything to proc twice per hit |
| 10:11.13 | Arcaia | do horde pallies get something else? |
| 10:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | SoV > SoR, anyone who says somethin else is a fucking noobcake |
| 10:11.17 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 10:11.21 | sag_ich_nicht | seal of blood |
| 10:11.25 | cryogen | Seal Of Shit |
| 10:11.33 | Arcaia | ally pallies have seal of blood dont they? |
| 10:11.34 | sag_ich_nicht | SoB is still nice for ret |
| 10:11.36 | cryogen | no |
| 10:11.37 | Industrial | rofl |
| 10:11.37 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 10:11.50 | Codayus | SoB is nice with the right gear... |
| 10:11.55 | Arcaia | nm |
| 10:11.59 | Arcaia | im imagining things |
| 10:12.00 | cryogen | at least with shamans they just renamed it :( |
| 10:12.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah all +ap and 0 +dmg |
| 10:12.01 | Arcaia | damn ptr. |
| 10:12.17 | buu | Not up? |
| 10:12.19 | Arrowmaster | since SoB doesnt get any +dmg |
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| 10:12.54 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 10:12.54 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 10:14.02 | Arcaia | so SoV cycle, consecration, holyshield, ret aura -- still spec spec spec gimme a spec |
| 10:14.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Arcaia: buff blessing of sanctuary, hit holy shield, fire avengers shield to pull, THEN have CC fire their CC, judge crusader(or wisdom or light, depending on boss, but mostly crusader, unless you have ret pala, in which case coordinate with him) when the mob is on you, fire up SoV, spam consecrate, spam judgement/SoV recast, recast holy shield every 10 seconds(has to be ALWAYS up, NEVER let it go down), if someone manages the impossible and pulls o |
| 10:14.28 | Arrowmaster | 44/17 |
| 10:14.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Arcaia: hold for spec |
| 10:14.31 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 10:14.34 | sag_ich_nicht | 44/17 is dumb |
| 10:14.36 | sag_ich_nicht | go away |
| 10:14.38 | Arrowmaster | fine |
| 10:16.04 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: how do you do it was horde, ooi? |
| 10:16.12 | cryogen | one of these days i want to level my paladin(currently 65) |
| 10:16.21 | Arrowmaster | same way |
| 10:16.26 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: use SoR, or SoB, but SoB is meh |
| 10:16.27 | Arrowmaster | just use SoR instead of SoV |
| 10:16.45 | cryogen | and hwo the hell do i get to level 70? |
| 10:16.55 | cryogen | i stopped at 65 because its just too painful to go any further :p |
| 10:17.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah really my pallys only 36, and my rogue which is my highest alt is only 58 |
| 10:17.22 | neenee | Hm. Does dogtag have an undocumented Location tag? |
| 10:17.23 | Arrowmaster | outland with crap gear hurts |
| 10:17.29 | neenee | There's nothing on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags |
| 10:17.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Arcaia: well, you can choose between: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tIxcdggqzVbx http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVMtIxcdggqzV0x http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVGtIx0dggqzV0x and http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVhtIx0dggqzVbx |
| 10:17.51 | sag_ich_nicht | neenee: [Zone] |
| 10:18.10 | sag_ich_nicht | depends on personal preferences |
| 10:18.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd go with http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVMtIxcdggqzV0x and abuse BoP as extra taunt |
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| 10:18.55 | neenee | Ah, thanks |
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| 10:19.17 | sag_ich_nicht | imp. conc aura for tanking maiden, gruul, and other silencing whores |
| 10:19.39 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: What does imp. conc aura do? |
| 10:19.43 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 10:19.54 | Demetrious | Is there any reason why certain addons on the SVN are modified (and show modified on WUACE), but their .toc is still at 20100? |
| 10:19.59 | cryogen | reduces silence duration |
| 10:20.02 | buu | Hot |
| 10:20.02 | cryogen | Demetrious: lazy authors? |
| 10:20.08 | Ellipsis | Demetrious: lib updates or lazy authors |
| 10:20.15 | Demetrious | cryogen: Bastards! :-) |
| 10:20.32 | sag_ich_nicht | inceases the effect of conc aura by 15% and additionally reduces the duration of interrupt and silence effects by 30% |
| 10:20.37 | Demetrious | Thanks. I keep changing the version, is OK. They work fine, and are worth it. |
| 10:20.58 | Arcaia | use outdated addons >.> |
| 10:20.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Arcaia: hope that helped you |
| 10:21.58 | Arcaia | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVMtIxhdggqzV0x -> |
| 10:22.10 | Arcaia | not planning on tanking kara -anytime- soon |
| 10:22.33 | Arcaia | !c us shattered hand sakakii |
| 10:22.33 | sag_ich_nicht | well, as i said pulling with AS and THEN having the CC apply is a good thing |
| 10:22.35 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Sakakii, Level 70 Human Paladin (40/21/0). 7577 HP; 6078 Mana; 117 mana regen; 31 mp5; 11663 Armour; 796 AP; 118.600 Melee DPS; 6.58% melee crit; 4 melee hit; 26 spell crit; 153 +spell dmg; 255 +heal; 178 defense; 9.92% dodge; 8.00% block; 3 resilience;[[ TBR: 813 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27jjku ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32t9pt ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 06:22:39 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:22.39 | *** join/#wowace Necrathex (n=bleptop@82-171-43-202.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 10:22.39 | Arcaia | how salvageable for tanking? |
| 10:22.47 | Arcaia | look at gear ;P |
| 10:22.48 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 10:22.48 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 10:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah hold |
| 10:23.08 | Arcaia | going to get a continuum longblade or whatev |
| 10:23.18 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:23.22 | sag_ich_nicht | get the pants as well |
| 10:23.25 | sag_ich_nicht | they are insanly good |
| 10:23.37 | sag_ich_nicht | way batter than the D3 pants |
| 10:23.40 | sag_ich_nicht | *better |
| 10:23.43 | Arcaia | where is this? |
| 10:24.15 | sag_ich_nicht | also CoT |
| 10:24.37 | sag_ich_nicht | !c eu gul'dan aldaron |
| 10:24.40 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Aldaron, Level 70 Draenei Paladin (0/49/12). 12077 HP; 4488 Mana; 83 mana regen; 14806 Armour; 84.100 Melee DPS; 5.41% melee crit; 8 spell hit; 183 +spell dmg/heal; 320 defense; 17.16% dodge; 21.85% block;[[ TBR: 726 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27vqgf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/338gle ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 06:24:43 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:24.46 | sag_ich_nicht | tankadin i know. |
| 10:25.10 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | 320 defense? |
| 10:25.12 | sag_ich_nicht | (i disagree with his spec tho, but whatever) |
| 10:25.15 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 10:25.19 | sag_ich_nicht | he probably logged in wrong gear |
| 10:25.19 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 10:25.44 | sag_ich_nicht | 505 def, ThraeBot is doing it wrong |
| 10:25.52 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | aight :) |
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| 10:26.10 | Arrowmaster | 320 defense rating? |
| 10:26.19 | Arcaia | +320 defense |
| 10:26.31 | Arcaia | not just 320 defense ;P |
| 10:26.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster that was just pointed out. he has 505, ThraeBot is doing it wrong. |
| 10:27.06 | Arcaia | ^ thraebot only shows the +to defense, not the defense |
| 10:27.08 | Arcaia | total |
| 10:27.19 | sag_ich_nicht | thus, doing it wrong |
| 10:27.20 | winkiller | is there any addon I can use to "dump" all recipes that people can craft? |
| 10:27.26 | Arcaia | my gfs paladin has 400something in her solo gear [non tank spec] |
| 10:27.39 | sag_ich_nicht | you need 490 defrating |
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| 10:27.46 | sag_ich_nicht | and 102.4% avoidance |
| 10:27.59 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: got a decent spec for levelling(from 65ish)? |
| 10:28.06 | cryogen | assuming terrible gear for any spec |
| 10:28.13 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen hold |
| 10:28.22 | sag_ich_nicht | 490 so you are uncritable, 102.4% so you are uncrushable |
| 10:28.24 | woden | i have just switched to parrot |
| 10:28.28 | woden | and i rather like ty! |
| 10:28.32 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: oh yeah btw that sound problem came back although im not sure if im using using the correct sound drivers since i had an issue where windows update installed some damn c-media sound drivers and fucked everything up and i had to rollback the drivers and select the new ones again |
| 10:28.34 | woden | like it* |
| 10:28.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster well fuck. |
| 10:29.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 10:29.07 | Arcaia | 425 atm [is what she has] |
| 10:29.11 | Arrowmaster | i really want to know wtf is fucking up the wave out |
| 10:29.24 | orionshock | sense wowwiki dosn't seem to want to tell me, any easy way of extracting the date and time of the server? |
| 10:29.28 | Arrowmaster | it happened while i was watching youtube videos again |
| 10:29.41 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | blame the os |
| 10:29.42 | Ellipsis | orionshock: why don't you just look at ClockFu or CML or something |
| 10:29.43 | cryogen | orionshock: fubar_clockfu can probably tell you |
| 10:29.56 | Arrowmaster | orionshock: you can get server time but no date |
| 10:29.57 | orionshock | now .. that's the easy way... |
| 10:30.37 | Morghus | ckknight: In Cartographer, is there a way to merge, or remove, nodes found that're overlapping or showing "abouts" the same area? On some nodes I have a crapton of icons by now xP |
| 10:30.38 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: gimme your armory link |
| 10:30.42 | sag_ich_nicht | then i will tell you something >.> |
| 10:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: well, i guess you could kick off everything again and reinstall the drivers i gave you :X |
| 10:31.30 | Ellipsis | Morghus, isn't there a cleanup module just for that? |
| 10:31.39 | orionshock | Arrowmaster: you can.. aperantly |
| 10:31.45 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.48 | orionshock | try it.. |
| 10:31.52 | Arrowmaster | thats local |
| 10:31.54 | Arrowmaster | not server |
| 10:31.57 | Morghus | Ellipsis: There is? I've missed it. Do you know where? |
| 10:32.01 | Morghus | *Where I can find it |
| 10:32.02 | orionshock | true... |
| 10:32.09 | Ellipsis | sec, Morghus |
| 10:32.31 | cryogen | !c eu haomarush palecia |
| 10:32.33 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: ^^ |
| 10:32.33 | ThraeBot | cryogen: Palecia, Level 65 Blood Elf Paladin (0/25/31). 6272 HP; 3482 Mana; 78 mana regen; 5837 Armour; 953 AP; 146.700 Melee DPS; 16.89% melee crit; 22 melee hit; 26 spell crit; 27 +spell dmg/heal; 8.48% dodge; 4.80% block;[[ TBR: 1236 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dhwmb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o547n ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 06:32:37 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:33.17 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: when i reinstalled the sound drivers the 2nd time i just went to manual selection and pointed it to look at the folder the installer extracted the stuff to before running and it found 2 drivers of the same name in that folder which is the only reason im not 100% i have the correct one |
| 10:33.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 10:33.33 | sag_ich_nicht | well i dunno |
| 10:33.44 | Arrowmaster | yeah same |
| 10:33.49 | Arrowmaster | i just want to blame flash |
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| 10:34.12 | Arrowmaster | since it just about always happens when im using flash player |
| 10:34.19 | ccKep | woshhh |
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| 10:34.41 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen your mana pool is terrible. |
| 10:34.50 | Arrowmaster | hes 65 |
| 10:34.59 | sag_ich_nicht | TERRIBLE- |
| 10:35.10 | sag_ich_nicht | don't argue with me man! |
| 10:35.11 | Ellipsis | non-holy pallies confuse me |
| 10:35.16 | Ellipsis | it's like, wtf are you looking for in gear |
| 10:35.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll confuse your mom |
| 10:35.27 | Morghus | A friend of mine just fell on the floor laughing at the name of one of the libraries "TipHookerLib".... |
| 10:35.32 | Spuddly` | Ellipsis: non-holy paladins gear like warriors :p |
| 10:35.33 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 10:35.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Spuddly` WRONG |
| 10:35.43 | Ellipsis | ret? |
| 10:35.44 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 10:35.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis go troll somewhere else |
| 10:35.56 | Ellipsis | you can't gear like a warr when you use spells for dps/threat |
| 10:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis wrong |
| 10:36.12 | sag_ich_nicht | the spells are Weapondamage > holy damage |
| 10:36.13 | sag_ich_nicht | conversions |
| 10:36.17 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 10:36.17 | sag_ich_nicht | and AP increases weapon damage |
| 10:36.21 | Thelyna | aside from one piece of gear, all of my tanking gear is 'warrior' gear |
| 10:36.21 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: ive just been stacking warrior gear mainly :p |
| 10:36.21 | sag_ich_nicht | and 1 Str = 2 AP |
| 10:36.27 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen you SMELL |
| 10:36.32 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: and the odd bit of obvious ret gear that tbc provides |
| 10:36.33 | Thelyna | and all of my ret gear is 'warrior' gear |
| 10:36.41 | cryogen | its not like im forcefully chosing it, its being thrust on me |
| 10:36.44 | Thelyna | well, aside from the S2 shoulders |
| 10:37.02 | cryogen | educate me, oh great one :) |
| 10:37.03 | Morghus | Ellipsis, any luck on the module thingie? =) |
| 10:37.13 | Ellipsis | Morghus: looking, sorry my comp is slow :P |
| 10:37.16 | Thelyna | also, if the 'leaked' notes are true, retribution paladins are being completele moved away from spelldamage in 2.3 |
| 10:37.25 | Ellipsis | aha~ |
| 10:37.32 | Ellipsis | Cartographer_Cleanup on files page |
| 10:37.37 | Ellipsis | I knew it existed |
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| 10:37.46 | cryogen | the leaked notes are not leaked notes, they are, in their majority, compilations of blue posts |
| 10:37.56 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: your mana pool is so small i'd go with this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVxhZZEf0t0cuiIoz |
| 10:37.57 | cryogen | there is a surprising amount of "official" 2.3 info out there |
| 10:38.23 | sag_ich_nicht | also don't spec PoJ |
| 10:38.26 | sag_ich_nicht | MAYBE spec it in 2.3 |
| 10:38.31 | sag_ich_nicht | but atm, it's a POS |
| 10:38.47 | Morghus | Thanks alot Ellipsis :) |
| 10:38.59 | cryogen | interesting |
| 10:39.10 | cryogen | whats the main gear focuses i should be looking out for? |
| 10:39.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:37] <cryogen> the leaked notes are not leaked notes, they are, in their majority, compilations of blue posts <--you missed something there |
| 10:39.12 | orionshock | wow i must be smoking crack or something.... |
| 10:39.12 | sag_ich_nicht | noobcake |
| 10:39.37 | cryogen | i did? |
| 10:39.39 | Arcaia | holy hell she's not revered with KoT |
| 10:40.31 | Arcaia | 100 rep short. |
| 10:40.35 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: atm, what YOU need is more int, seriously wtf mang, you lack int! and stop stacking AP |
| 10:40.39 | sag_ich_nicht | you want +str |
| 10:40.40 | Arcaia | and not a damn person to group with at this hour. |
| 10:40.41 | sag_ich_nicht | not +AP |
| 10:40.44 | Arcaia | anything else? |
| 10:40.55 | sag_ich_nicht | +AP is for rogues and warriors, and ONLY for those |
| 10:41.18 | cryogen | hmm, ok |
| 10:41.30 | cryogen | is there a better weapon i should head for? |
| 10:41.38 | cryogen | that one has served me well but is getting old |
| 10:42.11 | Arcaia | i wonder if she can solo some durnholde trash |
| 10:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd go with hatebringer. |
| 10:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=24461 |
| 10:43.31 | cryogen | looks good to me |
| 10:43.31 | cryogen | thanks! |
| 10:43.31 | neenee | I think the icon for it is horrible though |
| 10:43.31 | cryogen | that might actually inspire me to play my paladin |
| 10:44.27 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r50477 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Added visibility options and fixed display of grouped debuffs. |
| 10:44.35 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen i'd respec weaponsmith tho |
| 10:44.36 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 10:45.02 | cryogen | what for? |
| 10:46.07 | sag_ich_nicht | thunder. |
| 10:46.09 | sag_ich_nicht | deep thunder. |
| 10:46.12 | sag_ich_nicht | mighty bang |
| 10:46.22 | cryogen | i doubt i will stay ret at 70, if i get there:) |
| 10:46.27 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 10:46.37 | sag_ich_nicht | well then nvm |
| 10:46.40 | cryogen | prot would be fun |
| 10:46.51 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 10:46.53 | sag_ich_nicht | http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=24456 |
| 10:46.54 | sag_ich_nicht | those |
| 10:46.57 | sag_ich_nicht | >>>>>>>>>>> your pants |
| 10:47.10 | Thelyna | is it worth dropping mining for blacksmithing for lionheart? |
| 10:47.23 | sag_ich_nicht | what class. |
| 10:47.26 | cryogen | i clearly havent run underbog enough |
| 10:47.34 | Wobin | wtb fixed recount |
| 10:47.36 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen obviously. |
| 10:47.51 | cryogen | find it kinda hard to fit in to a group while levelling tho |
| 10:47.55 | cryogen | noone wants a "dpsadin" |
| 10:48.27 | Ellipsis | you just gotta have your holy gear on you :P |
| 10:48.39 | cryogen | "what holy gear" :D |
| 10:48.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:48.43 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 10:48.46 | cryogen | nah but |
| 10:48.50 | cryogen | its kinda hard to heal at ret |
| 10:48.53 | cryogen | as* |
| 10:49.17 | sag_ich_nicht | that's why i had a few points in holy while leveling :X |
| 10:49.23 | cryogen | i can solo heal as holy no problem |
| 10:49.25 | Thelyna | sag_ich_nicht: paladin |
| 10:49.31 | cryogen | havent tried ret/holy though |
| 10:49.47 | Thelyna | the only substantial losses in holy are illumination and light's grace |
| 10:50.04 | Thelyna | well, and spiritual focus if your tank is bad |
| 10:50.20 | Punkie` | holy shock isn't bad due to it being instant |
| 10:50.27 | Thelyna | I healed on progression raids in naxxramas back in the day as ret, as well as our first few karazhan runs |
| 10:50.34 | Thelyna | I think I respecced when we hit prince |
| 10:50.42 | cryogen | Thelyna: its not so bad if you have gear to make up for it |
| 10:50.49 | neenee | But were you a main healer or just an extra |
| 10:50.52 | cryogen | my healing gear while levelling is not exactly optimal |
| 10:51.06 | cryogen | solo healing in 5 mans is totally different to raid healing |
| 10:51.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i can solo heal and tank any non-heroic fine as ret :X |
| 10:51.42 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50478 10Necronomicon2/ (Locales/zhTW.lua Necronomicon2.toc): Necronomicon2: add zhTW translation by andyca |
| 10:51.42 | sag_ich_nicht | without a single point in holy :X |
| 10:51.46 | Thelyna | tanking as ret? eww |
| 10:51.47 | sag_ich_nicht | and my healgear really SUCKS |
| 10:51.52 | sag_ich_nicht | easy |
| 10:52.26 | Ellipsis | are pallies really that spec dependent? o.o |
| 10:52.30 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 10:52.35 | sag_ich_nicht | but people make it look like they are |
| 10:52.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lemem finish my sentence |
| 10:52.49 | sag_ich_nicht | *lemme |
| 10:52.59 | Thelyna | like I said I heal fine as ret, but also ret is the worst possible spec for tanking (imho) |
| 10:53.03 | sag_ich_nicht | when i was tanking CoT2 a few weeks ago with a pug because we had no tank(want hourglass ;_;) the ench shaman was all "wtf i never had a tank hold aggro that good before" |
| 10:53.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and i was like "lol noob tanks"# |
| 10:53.16 | sag_ich_nicht | -# |
| 10:53.25 | Thelyna | were you stacking AP or spelldamage? |
| 10:53.31 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 10:53.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i wore my tank gear |
| 10:53.35 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 10:53.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't wear my ret gear, noob! |
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| 10:54.10 | Ellipsis | I see, so basically these guys only have one set of gear and it's to match their spec |
| 10:54.13 | sag_ich_nicht | with +spelldmg as well, nearly uncritable if i'd respec prot(need 10 def more) |
| 10:54.22 | Ellipsis | and then they whine they can't do job X when they're not specced for it |
| 10:54.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis yeah and then they suck |
| 10:54.28 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 10:54.33 | Punkie` | leveling a paladin as an alt at (lvl 57) i think healings quite fun and can't wait to spec holy soon :P |
| 10:54.38 | sag_ich_nicht | my bags are always quite full |
| 10:54.44 | Thelyna | it's far more about the spec than the gear |
| 10:54.51 | sag_ich_nicht | bullshit |
| 10:54.55 | Ellipsis | my druid was really bad at tanking in cloth +heal gear too tbh |
| 10:54.56 | Thelyna | er |
| 10:55.01 | Thelyna | I got that around the wrong way sorry |
| 10:55.10 | Thelyna | it's far more about the gear than the space |
| 10:55.12 | Thelyna | .. er |
| 10:55.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: why the fuck would you take cloth over leather |
| 10:55.14 | sag_ich_nicht | you suck! |
| 10:55.16 | Thelyna | it's far more about the gear than the spec |
| 10:55.22 | Thelyna | finally, third time lucky |
| 10:55.24 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I played healbot. 61 point resto. I don't do melee. |
| 10:55.32 | ccKep | anyone else having issues with pitbulls MT frames and oRa as of lately? |
| 10:55.33 | Ellipsis | therefore cloth vs. leather doesn't matter to me |
| 10:55.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i don't care |
| 10:55.45 | Ellipsis | I take whatever gives me better stats for healing |
| 10:55.50 | Thelyna | hey, I used the cloth robe off fankriss for healing |
| 10:55.52 | Ellipsis | and if it's a dead tie, I take leather |
| 10:56.07 | Punkie` | it's not like it makes much difference :) |
| 10:56.21 | Thelyna | but that was because healing itemisation for paladins pre-TBC sucked utter nuts |
| 10:56.38 | sag_ich_nicht | O RLY |
| 10:56.45 | Arcaia | how do i solo things. |
| 10:56.50 | Arcaia | as a prot paladin? |
| 10:56.56 | Punkie` | easy? |
| 10:56.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Arcaia pull everything in sight |
| 10:56.58 | [Ammo] | wait for it to die of boredom |
| 10:57.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo] DIAF |
| 10:57.12 | Arcaia | how do i solo 66 elites in durnhold |
| 10:57.17 | Arcaia | as a holy paladin. |
| 10:57.31 | Thelyna | find someone else and healbot them |
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| 10:58.16 | Ellipsis | I remember seeing a post on realm forums way back when |
| 10:58.17 | Arcaia | meh. |
| 10:58.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Arcaia you don't. you respec prot, pull them all and AoE them down! |
| 10:58.19 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:58.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 10:58.20 | Ellipsis | from some prot pally |
| 10:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | prot paladin=ultimate AoE destruction machine |
| 10:58.39 | Ellipsis | saying "look, guys, I appreciate the sentiment, but just because I'm at low HP with 20 things beating on me does NOT mean I need your help. I'm just grinding, thanks." |
| 10:58.40 | sag_ich_nicht | takes no damage |
| 10:58.40 | QuantumDelta | (11:56:43) (Thelyna) but that was because healing itemisation for paladins pre-TBC sucked utter nuts <----- still sucks now :P |
| 10:58.42 | sag_ich_nicht | deals lots |
| 10:58.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: pretty much yeah |
| 10:59.05 | Ellipsis | it was pretty lulz |
| 10:59.14 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:56] <Thelyna> but that was because healing itemisation for paladins pre-TBC sucked utter nuts <--guess you never saw T0.5 and T3 |
| 10:59.15 | sag_ich_nicht | huh? |
| 10:59.15 | cryogen | let them heal you |
| 10:59.16 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 10:59.16 | cryogen | bubble |
| 10:59.20 | cryogen | and watch them die |
| 10:59.36 | sag_ich_nicht | afk getting food |
| 10:59.38 | QuantumDelta | lol Ellipsis, I had that |
| 11:00.01 | QuantumDelta | Pulling the entire mine for my daily |
| 11:00.05 | cryogen | the funny thing is.. a prot paladin and a healer is an even more awesome team |
| 11:00.05 | Thelyna | sag_ich_nicht: by the time t0.5 was out I was in better healing gear from bwl/aq offcasts |
| 11:00.15 | cryogen | prot paladin / shaman is a great combo |
| 11:00.19 | cryogen | pull the whole zone, have fun |
| 11:00.25 | Thelyna | QuantumDelta: what's wrong with itemisation now? |
| 11:00.27 | QuantumDelta | some guy comes along and heals me whilst i'm in the process of collecting and gets himself instagibbed, then whines on /general |
| 11:00.28 | QuantumDelta | t_t |
| 11:00.35 | QuantumDelta | what's wrong now? |
| 11:01.11 | Thelyna | <QuantumDelta> (11:56:43) (Thelyna) but that was because healing itemisation for paladins pre-TBC sucked utter nuts <----- still sucks now :P |
| 11:01.22 | QuantumDelta | Kalgan; "OY YA DEV TEAM LADDIES, I GOTS A BRILLIANT IDEA, DEM PALADINZ SED HEALING ITEMISATION SUCKZ, so lets put spellcrit on EVERYTHING and only spellcrit on everything." |
| 11:01.28 | QuantumDelta | 4 months later. |
| 11:01.34 | QuantumDelta | "Err, yea, that talent is fucked up" |
| 11:01.52 | QuantumDelta | *Kills any decent iLevel epic healing pieces' usefulness because he overitemised for it* |
| 11:01.53 | QuantumDelta | I mean |
| 11:01.58 | cryogen | you know you can blame shamans for the illumination nerf, right? |
| 11:02.02 | Thelyna | because there's no gear out there with mp5, none at all |
| 11:02.03 | QuantumDelta | I've met some fucking retarded DMs for MMOs. |
| 11:02.15 | QuantumDelta | Thelyna |
| 11:02.18 | QuantumDelta | .. |
| 11:02.25 | QuantumDelta | What instance is your guild working on? |
| 11:02.47 | Thelyna | SSC atm |
| 11:03.02 | QuantumDelta | SSC is where things start to be vastly in the majority of crit. |
| 11:03.39 | QuantumDelta | When they nerfed Illumination they should have readjusted the armour that had anything over 20 Crit Rating on it into MP5. |
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| 11:03.48 | QuantumDelta | ATM, Healing itemisation in +T5 instances is absolutely dire. |
| 11:03.58 | QuantumDelta | And they're never going to fix it. |
| 11:04.01 | Thelyna | yeah, I can see your point |
| 11:04.06 | Thelyna | 29 mp5 on T5 :/ |
| 11:04.23 | cryogen | they only nerfed illumination because they had to nerf the shaman clearcasting |
| 11:04.35 | QuantumDelta | Nah |
| 11:04.40 | QuantumDelta | Illu was overpowered |
| 11:04.45 | QuantumDelta | but it was only because they overitemised for it |
| 11:04.56 | QuantumDelta | The class was designed around Illu |
| 11:04.57 | Arrowmaster | it was giving some pallys like 300mp/5+ |
| 11:04.59 | Thelyna | it was too good any which way |
| 11:05.09 | cryogen | it was nowhere near as imbalanced as shaman's clearcasting though :p |
| 11:05.25 | cryogen | since that was a DPS mana restore |
| 11:05.26 | Thelyna | I basically solohealed our tank on prince from 20% to 0% just chaining HL11 |
| 11:05.31 | QuantumDelta | it was the most influential and core talent in our tree ;\ |
| 11:05.49 | Thelyna | ya, nerfing illumination pretty much ripped the guts out of the holy tree |
| 11:06.14 | Thelyna | pretty much everything from 15 to 35 deep in the tree is around holy light/crit |
| 11:06.44 | QuantumDelta | Even our 41 point talent is designed and balanced around a 100% illu :P |
| 11:06.52 | cryogen | it's still pretty powerful, though |
| 11:06.55 | cryogen | so it's not all lost |
| 11:07.29 | Thelyna | the illumination nerf was the primary reason I swapped to my shadow priest (that and we didn't have any in guild) |
| 11:07.50 | _rane | i installed recount and now banzailib is hogging 22 megabytes of memory |
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| 11:07.55 | QuantumDelta | Although the practical upshot of all of the crit gear is that even with the nerf if you stick a spriest in the group a pally can spam HL11 whilst continually taking super mana pots with the alchemist trinket and a mighty resto/mana oil combo |
| 11:07.56 | _rane | why's that? |
| 11:08.29 | Ellipsis | you broke it, _rane |
| 11:08.30 | QuantumDelta | Recount always was kinda memory intensive... |
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| 11:08.53 | cryogen | the mem usage is probably wrongly being accounted to banzailib |
| 11:08.58 | cryogen | happens with autobar a lot, apparently |
| 11:08.59 | QuantumDelta | ye |
| 11:09.07 | Thelyna | QuantumDelta: one time I got suckered into coming to lurker on my paladin and got dropped in a group with two elemental shaman and a moonkin (no shadow priest, unfortunately) |
| 11:09.15 | Thelyna | crit central (and I'm still geared for mp5) |
| 11:09.22 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 11:09.23 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 11:09.28 | QuantumDelta | I'm an mp5 whore |
| 11:09.31 | _rane | even if i reset recount or make it stand by it's still consuming the memory |
| 11:09.33 | QuantumDelta | when I'm actually holy anyway |
| 11:09.43 | cryogen | i usually kick paladins out of my group(shadow priest) :p |
| 11:09.53 | Thelyna | so do I, cryogen :p |
| 11:10.33 | Thelyna | QuantumDelta: yeah, the situations in which crit is comparable to mp5 you're going to run out of mana inside four minutes anyway |
| 11:10.48 | Thelyna | or something like that, I haven't run the numbers recently |
| 11:10.51 | cryogen | especially since our paladins are SMRT |
| 11:11.00 | cryogen | one time i did let one be in the group, he spent the whole instance with dev aura on |
| 11:11.15 | QuantumDelta | what aura would you prefer him to have on |
| 11:11.16 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 11:11.36 | cryogen | given that it was Void Reaver, imp conc aura(which he has) would hav ebeen nice |
| 11:11.50 | QuantumDelta | Why does a PvEadin have imp conc aura? |
| 11:12.00 | QuantumDelta | Though to be fair I tend to have conc aura on unless I'm in a tank group |
| 11:12.02 | Thelyna | for arena? |
| 11:12.03 | cryogen | didnt i just mention that our paladins are SMRT? |
| 11:12.09 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 11:12.10 | QuantumDelta | ;\ |
| 11:12.18 | cryogen | they are there to bless |
| 11:12.19 | cryogen | nothing else :p |
| 11:12.26 | QuantumDelta | I <3 my paladins |
| 11:12.32 | Thelyna | heh cryogen, today we were clearing to FLK ... first "why does <MT warrior> have salv? for chrissakes sort it out!" then "why do we [paladins] have salv! we don't need salv!" ... yeah, our paladins are srmat |
| 11:12.40 | QuantumDelta | Our most reliable players |
| 11:12.49 | cryogen | Thelyna: funny you should mention that.. |
| 11:13.11 | cryogen | happened just last week :p |
| 11:13.20 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 11:13.24 | cryogen | "uh, i have salvation.. uh so do i.. uh.." |
| 11:13.25 | QuantumDelta | We had a fun gruul raid a while back |
| 11:13.27 | QuantumDelta | partial pug |
| 11:13.31 | cryogen | (30 seconds into the pull) |
| 11:13.32 | QuantumDelta | 8 paladins |
| 11:13.37 | QuantumDelta | all with pallypower |
| 11:13.47 | cryogen | i do love the new blessings though |
| 11:14.03 | QuantumDelta | I still haven't raided with the new blessings |
| 11:14.07 | Thelyna | I think the best one was where on an ony farm run way back when, we stitched the tank up by giving him salv and no-one else |
| 11:14.12 | QuantumDelta | WTB My main PC back :< |
| 11:14.19 | cryogen | being a shadowpriest, usually wisdom gets greater blessed |
| 11:14.23 | cryogen | and i get salvation as a single buff |
| 11:14.29 | cryogen | 5 minutes for that is just not long enough |
| 11:14.34 | QuantumDelta | lol :< |
| 11:14.40 | Thelyna | our holy priests complain if they don't get salv, which works for me |
| 11:14.49 | Thelyna | be nice if our tanks were a little more on the ball |
| 11:14.58 | cryogen | we rarely have more than one paladin :( |
| 11:15.05 | Thelyna | we normally raid with three |
| 11:15.08 | cryogen | and if we do, its kings/wisdom |
| 11:15.11 | Thelyna | we had five today though :/ |
| 11:15.28 | cryogen | only if we have 3 paladins do i get greater salvation |
| 11:15.33 | cryogen | and boy would i like 3 paladins more often :p |
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| 11:15.42 | Marli | LoL paladins |
| 11:15.43 | cryogen | its hard to fit 3 of any healer into a tbc raid though |
| 11:15.53 | cryogen | shamans are more arguably more useful |
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| 11:16.00 | Marli | hf tanking and dpsing as a paladin rite |
| 11:16.03 | Marli | hybrid rite |
| 11:16.44 | Ackis | if i = say 5, and I do this: RecipeFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", "AckisRecipeListRecipe" .. i - 1, "TOPLEFT", 0, -8), will it set the frame to link to AckisRecipeListRecipe4 ? |
| 11:17.24 | cryogen | i dont know lua operator precedence |
| 11:17.26 | cryogen | but i would guess so |
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| 11:17.32 | cryogen | if you wanted it to be more explicit, use brackets |
| 11:17.34 | Thelyna | Marli: actually, our prot paladin is integral to our raid group, tyvm |
| 11:17.52 | Marli | yes ok sure |
| 11:17.53 | cryogen | i wish we had a prot paladin :( |
| 11:17.57 | Marli | crippled raid hf |
| 11:18.01 | cryogen | damned short sighted people |
| 11:18.16 | Thelyna | you sound ... bitter and vindictive. |
| 11:18.22 | Thelyna | you should probably get that checked out |
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| 11:18.33 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:14] <cryogen> 5 minutes for that is just not long enough <--10, nooblet |
| 11:18.37 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2read patchnotes |
| 11:18.38 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: now, yes |
| 11:18.53 | sag_ich_nicht | it really is, a blessing |
| 11:19.00 | cryogen | 12:13 < cryogen> i do love the new blessings though |
| 11:19.04 | Ellipsis | I see what you did there sag_ich_nicht |
| 11:19.07 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: l2read scrollback :p |
| 11:19.11 | Thelyna | sag_ich_nicht: that was just bad |
| 11:19.13 | sag_ich_nicht | (that miss punctiation was intentional, before anyone goes at me) |
| 11:19.22 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 11:19.25 | sag_ich_nicht | too late |
| 11:19.31 | Thelyna | and I think you mean mis-punctation |
| 11:19.37 | Ellipsis | no |
| 11:19.42 | Ellipsis | my last name is Punctuation |
| 11:19.48 | Ellipsis | thus I am Miss Punctuation |
| 11:19.52 | sag_ich_nicht | damn |
| 11:19.52 | cryogen | unlucky you |
| 11:19.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you ar right |
| 11:20.00 | sag_ich_nicht | *are |
| 11:20.01 | Ellipsis | Ellipsis Punctuation is a good name though tbh |
| 11:20.44 | Kain___ | has anyone else had a problem w/ the CoolDown Monitor in oRA2 since the patch? that thing is like stuck in the middle of my screen |
| 11:20.49 | Kain___ | on more than one computer |
| 11:20.51 | cryogen | Kain___: yes! |
| 11:20.56 | cryogen | cant move the damned thing |
| 11:21.05 | cryogen | had totally forgot about that |
| 11:21.22 | Kain___ | was in Gruul's last night and was covered up by cooldowns lol |
| 11:21.30 | Thelyna | mine is in the same spot it always was |
| 11:21.37 | cryogen | Thelyna: yeah but try moving it :p |
| 11:21.56 | Kain___ | well the thign is i know i have moved it int he past |
| 11:22.02 | Kain___ | i have it below my main tank list |
| 11:22.07 | cryogen | yes, it used to be movable |
| 11:22.11 | cryogen | isnt now for some reason |
| 11:22.12 | Kain___ | and now it's dead center |
| 11:27.41 | Grum | Kain___: why cant you move it? |
| 11:27.50 | Grum | alt-left-drag on the header and it moves O.o |
| 11:28.04 | cryogen | not any more |
| 11:28.08 | Grum | OMG HAX |
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| 11:28.16 | cryogen | someone brokes it |
| 11:28.24 | sag_ich_nicht | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaDefender <--i agree |
| 11:29.12 | Higdur | I heard some in the guild that couldn't move it either |
| 11:29.19 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r50483 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Fixed at typo |
| 11:29.28 | Higdur | and I tried and couldn't move mine (though it is in teh right spot already) |
| 11:31.15 | Fisker- | oh u Punkie` |
| 11:31.22 | Grum | mm strange |
| 11:31.25 | Grum | well someone fix it! :D |
| 11:31.45 | Ellipsis | ping aff locks |
| 11:32.59 | Punkie` | sup Fisker- |
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| 11:33.32 | Ellipsis | Punkie`: gg typoing on your fixed typo message btw |
| 11:33.51 | Punkie` | ncie! |
| 11:33.55 | Punkie` | see i rock at typos |
| 11:34.03 | Higdur | lol |
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| 11:34.18 | Ellipsis | gg |
| 11:34.27 | Ellipsis | ok, ping any locks |
| 11:35.18 | Ellipsis | ...ping anyone who's ever played a lock for more than 5 minutes |
| 11:35.24 | QQngsk | pong |
| 11:35.34 | Ellipsis | finally |
| 11:35.35 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 11:35.38 | Gngsk | heh |
| 11:35.51 | Gngsk | I've played every class for longer than 5 min |
| 11:35.52 | neenee | pong |
| 11:35.55 | Ellipsis | suggestions on how to manage SS tracking? :P |
| 11:36.08 | Ellipsis | er, by which I mean stones, not shards |
| 11:36.12 | neenee | Hm. I didn't use addons for that back then |
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| 11:36.20 | Gngsk | healthstones? |
| 11:36.30 | neenee | I just had people tell me when it ran out |
| 11:36.31 | Punkie` | click on people you cast a soulstone, if it's there, then it's up! |
| 11:36.38 | Ellipsis | sigh |
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| 11:36.43 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | shardace if you're lazy |
| 11:36.47 | neenee | Though Grid shows soulstones on people too |
| 11:36.49 | neenee | It's very nice |
| 11:36.56 | neenee | So now I'd use that. |
| 11:37.02 | Ellipsis | I was hoping for a non-bloated solution that shows me exact CD on the SS without having to create one |
| 11:37.05 | Gngsk | wasn't there a fubar plugin that tracked soulstones? |
| 11:37.11 | Ellipsis | there are two |
| 11:37.15 | Ellipsis | but they only show timers when the SS is up |
| 11:37.21 | Ellipsis | once it's been used, you can't see how long til you can recast |
| 11:37.25 | Ellipsis | unless you create one |
| 11:37.29 | sextus | Did Cryect get really busy all of a sudden? Hasn't been on any forums/wow in a while |
| 11:37.34 | Gngsk | oh |
| 11:37.44 | Gngsk | so you wanna see how long until another lock (not you) can recast his/hers? |
| 11:37.46 | neenee | Timers aren't really needed. You just need to know when it's no longer there |
| 11:37.50 | Ellipsis | no Gngsk |
| 11:37.54 | Ellipsis | I want to see my SS cooldown |
| 11:38.11 | Gngsk | oh, action button with a stone on it? |
| 11:38.17 | Punkie` | make 1, put it on someone |
| 11:38.18 | Ellipsis | preferably in a way that isn't cluttering my screen all the time (e.g. FuBar tooltip rather than CD bar crap) |
| 11:38.19 | Punkie` | then make another |
| 11:38.26 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Ellipsis: I made it a habit to create a fresh one after using it |
| 11:38.29 | neenee | Isn't your SS cooldown the same as the cooldown to cast the spell? |
| 11:38.32 | Ellipsis | Gngsk: I do that, but I want numbers not just the spinny timer |
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| 11:38.39 | Ellipsis | neenee: no |
| 11:38.42 | neenee | oh. |
| 11:38.43 | dieck | Raidleads LOVE to see when battlerezzes are available :) |
| 11:38.43 | Ellipsis | no CD on creating the stone, just using it |
| 11:38.47 | neenee | ah. |
| 11:38.51 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | neenee: no, you can create one whenever you want, you just can't apply it |
| 11:38.59 | Gngsk | oh you don't use like a cooldowncount? |
| 11:39.09 | Ellipsis | I don't use any CD addons because they just don't do what I want them to |
| 11:39.10 | neenee | ah I see. |
| 11:39.23 | Ellipsis | Deidra-AlleriaEU: I don't like wasting shards/inventory on a SS I might not use |
| 11:39.34 | Ether_Man | Ellipsis, there's a mod that tracks ss in fubar |
| 11:39.34 | Ellipsis | but it's almost the only option at this point =[ |
| 11:39.41 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man, see my comments above |
| 11:39.54 | dieck | necb (nature enemy castbar) has good cooldown counters, when you noticed a warlock made a soulstone, or a druid rezzed or else, it sets a CD. Target the person and you'll see it (is there any ace alternative to necb, btw?) |
| 11:39.55 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Ellipsis: true, when you're not raiding. |
| 11:39.59 | Gngsk | seems like it'd be easy enough to add an itemcooldown check to one of the already existing fubar plugins |
| 11:40.03 | Ellipsis | and I'm definitely not raiding |
| 11:40.10 | Ether_Man | So you wanna track ss CD.. but withut a mod? |
| 11:40.11 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | dieck: ellipsis said 'non-bloated' :) |
| 11:40.16 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: I want an addon for it |
| 11:40.29 | Ellipsis | but not something like Necrosis |
| 11:40.32 | Ellipsis | because that's overkill |
| 11:40.32 | dieck | Deidra-AlleriaEU: ok, i have to admin necb is not lean, but I don't care :) |
| 11:40.40 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Ellipsis: shardace does that, but i'm not usre on whether that counts as bloated |
| 11:40.44 | Ether_Man | Ellipsis, there's like a million diffrent ones for that specific purpose.. chose one :) |
| 11:40.46 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | *sure |
| 11:40.49 | Ellipsis | does shardace do something other than track soulstones? |
| 11:40.56 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: example? |
| 11:40.58 | cryogen | classtimers probably does it |
| 11:41.03 | Punkie` | Ellipsis: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7532-ForteWarlock.html |
| 11:41.05 | cryogen | but only if you target the person you put it in, id bet |
| 11:41.06 | Punkie` | gogogoog |
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| 11:41.06 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Ellipsis: yes, but those buttons/functionality can be hidden/disabled |
| 11:41.10 | Ellipsis | the two FuBar SS trackers don't track my CD |
| 11:41.18 | Ellipsis | Deidra-AlleriaEU: I don't trust that, but I might look into it |
| 11:41.25 | Ether_Man | Ellipsis, Funny.. They track mine |
| 11:41.28 | Ellipsis | same with Forte |
| 11:41.36 | Ellipsis | no Ether_Man, they track the DURATION of the SS |
| 11:41.45 | Ellipsis | once it's been used (the rezzer dies) you can't see how long until you can re-SS |
| 11:42.01 | cryogen | there's no reliable way to do that |
| 11:42.02 | Ether_Man | Mine tracks the CD.. Not duration.. |
| 11:42.07 | Ellipsis | yes there is cryogen |
| 11:42.11 | cryogen | unless you just create a bar with a 30 min timer |
| 11:42.15 | Ellipsis | the item cooldown can still be queried... |
| 11:42.24 | cryogen | even if you dont have any? |
| 11:42.27 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 11:42.31 | Ellipsis | because it works on an action bar |
| 11:42.34 | Punkie` | so why don't you go make an addon? :P |
| 11:42.44 | Ellipsis | even if it couldn't nothing's stopping you from creating a variable storing the time when it will be up |
| 11:42.45 | orionshock | ckknight: ping :P |
| 11:42.45 | cryogen | ah right |
| 11:42.47 | Ellipsis | and just checking that... |
| 11:42.49 | Ether_Man | It cant be queried but it can be cached.. Bartender3 does that as an example |
| 11:42.51 | ccKep | just pull it into the actionbar then ^.^ |
| 11:43.09 | Ellipsis | ccKep: that shows a timer, but I want exact numbers |
| 11:43.10 | Ether_Man | It sets the CD for the button and counts it down no matter if the stone is still there or not |
| 11:43.14 | cryogen | Ellipsis: ya, what Ether_Man said, if its on an actionbar, it's cached |
| 11:43.22 | ccKep | nanoseconds? |
| 11:43.38 | Ellipsis | because when someone asks me "how long until SS?" I don't want to squint at some cooldown spiral and go "eh..something between 5 and 10 minutes-ish?" |
| 11:43.41 | cryogen | Ellipsis: what you want is a candybar with a 30 min timer |
| 11:43.44 | Ellipsis | NO |
| 11:43.45 | cryogen | make a macro, you like those |
| 11:43.46 | Ellipsis | no candybars |
| 11:43.47 | Ellipsis | god no |
| 11:43.54 | Ellipsis | cryogen, you did not read what I was asking for :P |
| 11:44.00 | ccKep | tried CooldownCount or sth like that? |
| 11:44.08 | Ellipsis | I do not want a cooldown addon |
| 11:44.10 | cryogen | i do read less of what you write, yes :) |
| 11:44.16 | ccKep | shows minutes/seconds of CDs in the actionbar |
| 11:44.25 | Ellipsis | ccKep, I do not want a cooldown addon. |
| 11:44.29 | cryogen | either suck it up, or write a timer addon of your own |
| 11:44.32 | cryogen | and present it how you want |
| 11:44.33 | Ellipsis | I just want something that stores a variable telling me when the SS will be up |
| 11:44.38 | Ellipsis | and that's what I'm tempted to do, cryogen. |
| 11:44.56 | cryogen | (i think weve fairly determined the answer to your question is "no") |
| 11:45.04 | Ellipsis | I don't know why everyone gets it into their heads that you can't track durations without bars all over your screen |
| 11:45.20 | cryogen | you cant, unless you have a ss in your bag |
| 11:45.23 | cryogen | or a cached action button |
| 11:45.24 | Ellipsis | you can |
| 11:45.29 | cryogen | .. with a cached action button |
| 11:45.33 | Ellipsis | no |
| 11:45.38 | Ellipsis | [4:42:06 am] <Ellipsis> even if it couldn't nothing's stopping you from creating a variable storing the time when it will be up |
| 11:45.47 | Punkie` | what's wrong with candybars anyway |
| 11:45.51 | cryogen | yes but nothing does that |
| 11:45.55 | cryogen | so go write it :) |
| 11:45.57 | Ellipsis | right |
| 11:45.57 | dieck | try oRA2, it can track cooldowns two, and show a single window with them if needed - otherwise it's nearly unvisible ;) -- but bloated, for your demands :) |
| 11:46.01 | Ellipsis | which is not "Can't" but "doesn't" |
| 11:46.09 | Ellipsis | Punkie`: they are clutter. I am a minimalist. |
| 11:46.17 | Ellipsis | I do not want five thousand bars on my screen. |
| 11:46.21 | Ellipsis | do not want! |
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| 11:46.49 | Ellipsis | bars are very rarely the right way to display information |
| 11:46.58 | ccKep | make 1-2 macros |
| 11:47.08 | ccKep | /script mySoulstone = time() |
| 11:47.09 | ccKep | /use Soulstone |
| 11:47.17 | ccKep | and another one that just calcs the time remaining... |
| 11:47.19 | Ellipsis | my soulstone macro is too long to add more to already... |
| 11:47.26 | ccKep | /print 1800 - (time() - (mySoulstone or 0)) |
| 11:47.52 | Ellipsis | I'd rather write my dream CD addon than just throw more crap in macros tbh |
| 11:47.57 | Ellipsis | but thank you for the useful suggestion |
| 11:48.33 | ccKep | let me get this straight: you don't want a bar addon that displays the cooldown, you don't want the cooldown to be displayed in the actionbar and you don't want a macro that prints it on demand |
| 11:48.49 | cryogen | Ellipsis: btw i still think you could do it with a macro |
| 11:49.19 | Ether_Man | ccKep, he wants a mod that magically transfers the information about the CD into his mind |
| 11:49.21 | cryogen | haha sorry, didnt read up before sitting down |
| 11:49.33 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: she* |
| 11:49.36 | Ellipsis | and that's not what I want |
| 11:49.40 | cryogen | just thought about how to do it while i was on the move |
| 11:49.40 | Ether_Man | he she whatever |
| 11:49.55 | orionshock | is there something agenst using a for 1=1, v do loop for GameTooltip:AddLines() ? |
| 11:49.56 | Ellipsis | I'm either going to hack it into SoulJar, or write a full CD addon :/ |
| 11:50.12 | Ether_Man | You didnt want a full CD addon |
| 11:50.20 | Ellipsis | I don't want one of the ones that exists, no |
| 11:50.24 | Ellipsis | the reason is they all suck |
| 11:50.25 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 11:50.34 | mykx | ? Hourglass is great |
| 11:50.42 | orionshock | gona say - hourglass is rather nice |
| 11:50.48 | neenee | Well, if you want to write something yourself, go for it. |
| 11:50.49 | Ellipsis | does it show me bars for CDs? |
| 11:50.54 | JoshBorke | anyone have a screenshot of hourglass? |
| 11:50.58 | JoshBorke | i personally use coolDown |
| 11:51.00 | orionshock | Ellipsis: yes |
| 11:51.02 | Ellipsis | then it isn't great. |
| 11:51.10 | orionshock | ? |
| 11:51.19 | Ellipsis | from a user interface design perspective, bars for cooldowns does not make sense in 99% of cases |
| 11:51.32 | JoshBorke | really? |
| 11:51.37 | sylvanaar | ~ /hairpull bad pug /kickssomething |
| 11:51.37 | Ellipsis | as I said above, bars are overused and abused in situations where they do not belong |
| 11:52.02 | orionshock | what other display type do you want? |
| 11:52.04 | ccKep | just a simple question then... how'd you like the cooldown to be displayed? |
| 11:52.12 | KarlKFI | anyone know how to rotate a texture in place? |
| 11:52.27 | Ether_Man | Bars give a quick overlook of the percentage of time remaining.. That's usually what you want to see when not looking directly at it and bars are wonderful for that purpose |
| 11:52.37 | Ellipsis | ccKep: as I said above, a FuBar text or tooltip would be ideal |
| 11:52.52 | Ellipsis | but even something that prints to Sink would work |
| 11:53.02 | sylvanaar | put a bar attached to the fubar |
| 11:53.04 | mykx | who asked for hourglass SS here : http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1364/1468032610_c457d70650_o.jpg |
| 11:53.09 | Ellipsis | I do not want a bar! |
| 11:53.10 | Ether_Man | You didnt want the FuBar addon that does exactly what you're looking for though so that cant be what you're looking for |
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| 11:53.12 | Arcaia | i want my cooldowns to just show as numbers... but not stacked numbers, like numbers in a sequence |
| 11:53.17 | Arcaia | say for a rogue |
| 11:53.18 | Ether_Man | that does exactly that* |
| 11:53.18 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: which one does what I'm looking for? |
| 11:53.34 | cryogen | long cooldowns on bars dont make sense |
| 11:53.39 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 11:53.40 | cryogen | short ones are ok |
| 11:53.44 | Ether_Man | Ellipsis, I'll check what mine is named because mine does exactly that |
| 11:54.02 | mykx | With hourglass you can choose how long and short timers have to be for them to be shown that's why I like it |
| 11:54.10 | sylvanaar | no, they make sense, it just depends |
| 11:54.11 | Arcaia | E: 1:35, V: 4:00, BF: 0:35, AR: 1:90, S: 1:12 |
| 11:54.22 | Ellipsis | I use SoulJarFu which tells me SS DURATIONS but not SS CD. |
| 11:54.29 | Arcaia | Evasion - Vanish - Blade flurry, Adren Rush - Sprint |
| 11:54.39 | Ellipsis | I tried CheckStoneFu and had the same complaint |
| 11:54.45 | Arcaia | color coded and such |
| 11:54.58 | Ether_Man | CheckStone is meant to track ss for the raid.. not your own |
| 11:54.59 | Ellipsis | Arcaia: welcome to my world :P |
| 11:55.08 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: I'd like that too |
| 11:55.11 | cryogen | in fact id rather have my cooldowns show on actionbars, i dont have many cooldowns i care to track otherwise |
| 11:55.12 | Ellipsis | but you are still mistaken in my needs |
| 11:55.17 | Ellipsis | the duration is taken care of |
| 11:55.21 | sylvanaar | my rebirth cooldown is shown as a bar - its useful |
| 11:55.22 | Ellipsis | but there is nothing that shows me the COOLDOWN |
| 11:55.40 | Punkie` | Arcaia: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/small9294.jpg ^_^ |
| 11:55.56 | Ether_Man | Ellipsis, like I said.. mine do track my CD.. And what you want is something meant for your own soulstone and not your raids ss |
| 11:56.05 | Arcaia | Punkie` : no ;P |
| 11:56.07 | Ellipsis | I can only imagine how that looks when two CDs are at the same time, Punkie` |
| 11:56.09 | Arcaia | just numbers not bars |
| 11:56.11 | sylvanaar | class timers |
| 11:56.11 | Arcaia | not anything |
| 11:56.17 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: what do you have that tracks your CD? |
| 11:56.20 | Ellipsis | please, please tell me |
| 11:56.24 | Punkie` | i love that look :) |
| 11:56.25 | Ellipsis | because if it's true, I desperately want it. |
| 11:56.27 | Ether_Man | And like I said.. I'll check what mine is named.. Just gotta find it :) |
| 11:56.36 | sylvanaar | I use ClassTimers |
| 11:56.41 | sylvanaar | from the svn |
| 11:56.41 | Ether_Man | Im using 291 addons and libraries so a bit of pain to go through |
| 11:56.51 | Ellipsis | I use ClassTimer for my DoTs, does it do cooldowns too? |
| 11:57.03 | sylvanaar | It does * |
| 11:57.06 | Grum | Punkie`: OMG WHAT IS THAT? |
| 11:57.40 | Ellipsis | I can't see how to add a CD sylvanaar :/ |
| 11:57.46 | sylvanaar | look harder |
| 11:58.03 | Arcaia | Punkie` - and as all of rogue cooldowns are less than 5 minutes, that addon would Fail. |
| 11:58.11 | Ellipsis | there's Buffs, Curses, DoTs, Misc (inc the SS buff but not its CD), and Race |
| 11:58.51 | Ellipsis | yes, cryogen, ClassTimer is still a bar which I don't want, but at least it's not an extra addon |
| 11:58.56 | Punkie` | Arcaia: I play a rogue, doesn't stop that from looking cool :) |
| 11:58.58 | Ellipsis | I'd settle for a bar if it actually let me create one |
| 11:59.41 | Arcaia | looks are important, but once you get past the point where having too many cooldowns to track, looks fails. |
| 11:59.46 | Arcaia | fail* |
| 12:00.09 | cryogen | afaik classtimers doesnt track the CD, just the actual stone |
| 12:00.09 | Ellipsis | somehow I feel like cryogen and Arcaia are the only people who understand what I really want :P |
| 12:00.19 | cryogen | but that doesnt mean it cant be made to do it, ive never tried |
| 12:00.41 | sylvanaar | maybe im wrond |
| 12:00.47 | sylvanaar | then quartz |
| 12:00.48 | Punkie` | Arcaia: maybe, I don't use it though - it's still quite a nice idea |
| 12:00.50 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | do it like i do, be a raiding warlock that aso does lead, so you have to track the cooldowns anyway using ora ;-) |
| 12:01.02 | cryogen | fairly sure quartz has the same problem as classtimers |
| 12:01.04 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50486 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 12:01.04 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 12:01.04 | CIA-12 | - reorder menu |
| 12:01.04 | CIA-12 | - move debug messages into a new "debug mode" accessible via the menu. |
| 12:01.05 | Ellipsis | I don't use oRA2 |
| 12:01.07 | Punkie` | Grum: serious or were you just typing in caps because you can? :P |
| 12:01.12 | cryogen | (and really i cant see Ellipsis liking quartz :p) |
| 12:01.13 | Ellipsis | and I refuse to install it unless/until I raid |
| 12:01.20 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | Ellipsis: mind the smiley, will ye? :) |
| 12:01.23 | Ellipsis | I use Quartz as a cast bar. that's it. :P |
| 12:01.28 | Grum | Punkie`: i'd like a -CAPS on that but i was serious :D |
| 12:01.29 | cryogen | Ellipsis: it stays disabled until you join a raid :p |
| 12:01.31 | Ellipsis | Deidra-AlleriaEU - yes, I noticed :P |
| 12:01.41 | Ellipsis | cryogen: yes but if I never raid that's dead hard drive space :P |
| 12:01.43 | cryogen | anyway, lunchtime, happy addon searching :p |
| 12:01.47 | Punkie` | Grum: It's Forte Warlock @ wowi, pretty much the reason I don't use it (not a lock :P) |
| 12:01.52 | Ellipsis | enjoy your lunch cryogen~ |
| 12:02.21 | Grum | Punkie`: what does it do exactly? :D |
| 12:02.31 | ccKep | /quarztimer 1800 Soulstone CD < into your SS macro if you don't mind a bar without using an extra addon and if you don't cancel your cast |
| 12:02.46 | Punkie` | Grum: uh, warlock stuff and that cooldown monitor :P |
| 12:03.02 | Ellipsis | ccKep: that's not possible as I said earlier because my SS macro is full already |
| 12:03.07 | sylvanaar | just go write your own |
| 12:03.23 | Ellipsis | that makes 4 addons I'm writing because the alternatives suck |
| 12:03.28 | sylvanaar | qq |
| 12:03.29 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 12:03.29 | ccKep | how the fuck can a soulstone macro exceed 200 chars? |
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| 12:03.39 | Ellipsis | ccKep: I don't like having a lot of buttons? |
| 12:03.42 | sylvanaar | you are just too picky |
| 12:03.58 | Punkie` | it says yyyyyyyyyyooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuu aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeee ... getting soulstoned |
| 12:03.58 | ccKep | /use, /cast, /quarztimer ? |
| 12:04.01 | Ellipsis | I am picky, because I want things to work in an ideal way |
| 12:04.15 | sylvanaar | they you gotta do it yourself |
| 12:04.16 | Ellipsis | ccKep: HS/create HS/ritual of souls... |
| 12:04.27 | ccKep | how's HS related to SS? |
| 12:04.29 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: I'm realizing that more and more every day |
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| 12:04.35 | Ellipsis | ccKep: they both fit on one button :) |
| 12:04.39 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis noone is going to cater to you |
| 12:04.45 | Ellipsis | they should cater to users |
| 12:04.52 | Ether_Man | Meh cant find what it's named.. I thought I was still using SnaFu but that's outdated |
| 12:04.53 | Ellipsis | and my needs are not all that wildly different from other users' |
| 12:05.00 | Ellipsis | I just don't settle like most users. |
| 12:05.07 | Ether_Man | and it's no longer in my addons so it's not what Im using ^-^;; |
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| 12:05.18 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: so...there is such an addon, you just don't know what it is? |
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| 12:05.26 | Ellipsis | do you know where you got it at least? |
| 12:05.31 | Ether_Man | There is because Im using one.. |
| 12:05.47 | Ellipsis | well what are you using? |
| 12:05.50 | Ether_Man | not sure.. I use WUU for my addons |
| 12:05.56 | Ellipsis | can't you just login and mouseover the FuBar icon? |
| 12:05.58 | Ether_Man | I cant find what Im using >_< |
| 12:06.01 | Ellipsis | it shows the freaking name there |
| 12:06.08 | Ether_Man | It's only active while in raids |
| 12:06.16 | sylvanaar | ora |
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| 12:06.33 | Ellipsis | I don't want something for raids |
| 12:06.43 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 12:06.50 | sylvanaar | well go fucking remove the code check for is in raid |
| 12:06.51 | Ether_Man | sylvanaar, no, ora shows it as bars doesnt it? mine is in the fubar :/ |
| 12:07.10 | Ellipsis | jesus you guys make everything so difficult |
| 12:07.17 | Ellipsis | this is why I'm writing all my own stuff these days |
| 12:07.18 | Punkie` | erm |
| 12:07.19 | ccKep | we? |
| 12:07.22 | Punkie` | i think you make it difficult |
| 12:07.42 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: it sounds like no one has written what you want |
| 12:07.46 | Ellipsis | it does, doesn't it |
| 12:07.56 | Recluse | where might i obtain a list of UI frames like MerchantFrame, TradeSkillFrame, etc? |
| 12:07.59 | Ellipsis | I don't see why not, is it so crazy for a lock to want to know what their SS CD is? |
| 12:08.16 | sextus | Usually people who want that info raid I think |
| 12:08.23 | Punkie` | anyway |
| 12:08.33 | Punkie` | this one time i opened up svn.wowace.com |
| 12:08.36 | Ellipsis | even so, not every raider uses oRA... |
| 12:08.42 | Punkie` | did a ctrl+f and searched for soul |
| 12:08.48 | Punkie` | tried fubar_souljarfu? |
| 12:08.58 | Ether_Man | oh right.. Now I see.. oRA2.. with FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu.. shows the CD from oRA2 in the fubar :) That's what Im using |
| 12:08.59 | Grum | Ellipsis: you gotto be kidding |
| 12:09.03 | ccKep | why would you want to track SS cooldown when not in a raid? |
| 12:09.06 | Grum | you cna not raid without ctra/oRA2 :D |
| 12:09.09 | Ellipsis | Punkie`: if you read any of what I said... |
| 12:09.13 | Punkie` | nope |
| 12:09.15 | Ellipsis | I am *using* SoulJarFu. |
| 12:09.17 | Punkie` | because you're crazy |
| 12:09.20 | Ellipsis | it does not track cooldowns. |
| 12:09.25 | Punkie` | and you'll infect my mind with craziness |
| 12:09.28 | Ellipsis | ccKep: ever run a 5man? |
| 12:09.38 | ccKep | yeah, but 5mans don't exceed 60min |
| 12:09.47 | ccKep | so you the actionbar spiral is enough (for me) |
| 12:09.58 | ccKep | -you |
| 12:10.07 | Ellipsis | still, when you SS the moron healer who then runs up and dies, and then every 5 mins they ask "how long til SS?" |
| 12:10.07 | Ether_Man | Ellipsis, oRA2 tracks the CD and FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu shows it in the FuBar.. You can activate oRA2 anytime you chose or set it to always be active simple as that |
| 12:10.14 | Ellipsis | I want a number to give them |
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| 12:10.27 | Ellipsis | I do not want all of oRA2 to track one item's cooldown |
| 12:10.34 | Ellipsis | dear god, who thinks of that as a valid solution? |
| 12:10.41 | sylvanaar | you |
| 12:10.46 | sylvanaar | unless you can do better |
| 12:11.00 | Ellipsis | /rolleyes |
| 12:11.01 | Ether_Man | oRA2 is used by almost all raiders so it's viable for everyone using it anyway |
| 12:11.07 | Ellipsis | I am not a raider! |
| 12:11.19 | Stanzilla2 | raider is now called Twix.. |
| 12:11.23 | Ellipsis | and I still wouldn't use it unless my guild required it :| |
| 12:11.25 | sylvanaar | less input more output |
| 12:11.34 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: if you only knew |
| 12:11.58 | Punkie` | sylvanaar: haha, I need to use that sometime :P |
| 12:12.55 | sylvanaar | sounds like you are at the point where you need to start authoring your own stuff is all |
| 12:13.05 | Ellipsis | I'm past that point, which is why I've been doing it |
| 12:13.10 | Ellipsis | I just hate the fact that I have to rewrite the entire UI |
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| 12:13.26 | Punkie` | you want a custom UI |
| 12:13.28 | Punkie` | it's custom |
| 12:13.32 | sylvanaar | you dont, you just choose to |
| 12:13.39 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Please, stop behaving like a girl *ducks and runs away* |
| 12:13.55 | Ellipsis | it's like half the addon authors out there don't even try to think of how best to display information |
| 12:13.56 | Ether_Man | Ellipsis, thing is you want an addon, targetted at raids and raiders.. except you dont want to use it for raids so you're pretty much unique in that sense |
| 12:14.05 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: how is it targeted at raids? |
| 12:14.14 | Ellipsis | I'd be happy with a CD addon that didn't use stupid bars |
| 12:14.18 | ccKep | Ellipsis: looks like thousands of users didn't need that until now |
| 12:14.22 | Ellipsis | or text on action buttons I don't even have |
| 12:14.42 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis most people were fine with cooldowncount from cosmos |
| 12:14.48 | Fisker- | 1+1 = sylvanaar |
| 12:14.58 | Ellipsis | or text on action buttons I don't even have << |
| 12:15.18 | sylvanaar | well, hrm how to solve that |
| 12:15.23 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 12:15.25 | Ether_Man | Because if you're in a 5man group, there's not likely to be anyone but you doing ss.. And if you're the only one doing ss, mods that tracks all sses is all that's really needed |
| 12:15.25 | ccKep | /cooldowncount minimumduration <<< |
| 12:15.26 | sylvanaar | put a button |
| 12:15.40 | Ellipsis | I don't want buttons all over my screen for things I have keybound, it's backwards |
| 12:15.55 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: no. you still need to know cooldown separately from duration. |
| 12:16.02 | Ellipsis | because hey, sometimes the things actually get used up |
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| 12:16.32 | Arcaia | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6599-CooldownTimers.html is atleast well organized bars, but prolly outdated >.< |
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| 12:17.08 | Ether_Man | I have never needed to know outside of raids because I've never partied with any rezzer even remotely stupid enough to be asking.. if it's up it's up.. if it isnt it isnt.. simple as that really |
| 12:17.10 | sylvanaar | i just put my cooldowns in the side action bars |
| 12:17.25 | Ellipsis | Ether_Man: you've honestly never had someone ask "how long until SS is up?" |
| 12:17.27 | Ellipsis | ??? |
| 12:17.31 | Ether_Man | Nope |
| 12:17.36 | JoshBorke | why are you guys still arguing? |
| 12:17.37 | Ellipsis | WTB a transfer to your realm |
| 12:17.41 | Ether_Man | Outland |
| 12:17.43 | sylvanaar | i dont know |
| 12:17.46 | Ether_Man | you're welcome :) |
| 12:17.53 | ccKep | Ellipsis: "not yet" is my answer to those questions everytime |
| 12:17.57 | Ether_Man | or perhaps I should say Lagland though :) |
| 12:18.02 | Grum | transferring? :D |
| 12:18.08 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis has her opinion and she knows what she wants. we could only ASK for MORE users like her that know what they want and are willing to write it themselves |
| 12:18.34 | sylvanaar | i like that paradox |
| 12:18.34 | Arcaia | i like Ellipsis's cooldown idea, I'd use it. |
| 12:18.39 | Grum | same here |
| 12:18.52 | Grum | was actually looking how feasable it would be writing it myself O.o |
| 12:19.00 | Arcaia | I'd even settle for one that is just a small box of text on the screen |
| 12:19.01 | Grum | but i guess i have another addon to finish first |
| 12:19.08 | Arcaia | with only text, no fancy bars, borders, etc. |
| 12:19.09 | Grum | mini-wall-of-text~! |
| 12:19.13 | Ellipsis | it's something I've actually been working on a bit lately, Arcaia |
| 12:19.16 | Fisker- | i need to flame Fin btw |
| 12:19.19 | Fisker- | ~seen Fin |
| 12:19.24 | purl | fin is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 12h 42m 6s) #wowace (1d 12h 42m 6s). Has said a total of 499 messages. Is idling for 6h 50m 54s, last said: 'morning everyone'. |
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| 12:19.25 | Ellipsis | however I was just hoping I could get a SS CD timer in the meantime |
| 12:19.25 | Punkie` | how come |
| 12:19.29 | Ellipsis | apparently that's too much to ask |
| 12:19.46 | sylvanaar | no, you are asking too much |
| 12:19.56 | sylvanaar | you were presented with many options |
| 12:20.04 | Ellipsis | none of which remotely matched my originally stated requirements. |
| 12:20.10 | sylvanaar | tehy dont have to |
| 12:20.17 | sylvanaar | they just need to solve your problem |
| 12:20.24 | sylvanaar | until you can write it yourself |
| 12:20.27 | Ellipsis | they don't solve my problem |
| 12:20.31 | Punkie` | btw paladin's can't use daggers can they? |
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| 12:20.36 | JoshBorke | Punkie`: no |
| 12:20.42 | Punkie` | thought so, cheers |
| 12:20.57 | ccKep | looks like you have a problem without a solution so far... solve it and make other users happy ;) |
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| 12:21.32 | Punkie` | I need to make a nice cooldown addon for myself, something like [x] 5m where [x] is the icon |
| 12:21.39 | Punkie` | would be cool |
| 12:22.47 | Fisker- | i hate you Punkie` |
| 12:22.54 | Punkie` | no you don't! |
| 12:22.56 | sylvanaar | frankly, i know there are several addons which do what you are talking about - you just have to search harder for them. that particular type 'cooldown tracking' has tons of obscure mods in it you just have to wade through |
| 12:23.07 | Fisker- | oh yes i do Punkie` ! |
| 12:23.12 | Punkie` | nope! |
| 12:23.13 | Fisker- | oh hi Fin |
| 12:23.15 | Fisker- | i wanna kill you |
| 12:23.16 | Punkie` | and that's the beauty of it |
| 12:23.16 | Fisker- | :( |
| 12:23.23 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar, I have searched long and hard - if you have any particular tips/suggestions for me, I'm all ears |
| 12:23.47 | sylvanaar | keep at it? you will find it eventually |
| 12:24.07 | Ellipsis | kk |
| 12:24.36 | Ether_Man | What you could do is take random CD tracking mod and make a fubar plugin to display the data only.. That's simple enough |
| 12:24.51 | Punkie` | Ether_Man: that's crazy talk |
| 12:24.57 | JoshBorke | that is actually pretty simple |
| 12:25.08 | Punkie` | i know, now let's party |
| 12:25.09 | Ellipsis | that's sorta kinda almost close to what I want, and I will probably start with something like that |
| 12:27.37 | sylvanaar | Use ankhtimerfu |
| 12:27.48 | sylvanaar | and make it for soulstones |
| 12:28.10 | ramoz | ehm |
| 12:28.14 | ramoz | if you look hard enough |
| 12:28.15 | Ether_Man | RezFu :) ankh and ss timers in one :) |
| 12:28.26 | ramoz | you'll finde oRA2CoolDown2Fu |
| 12:28.30 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
| 12:28.32 | Fisker- | understand |
| 12:28.35 | ramoz | which uses ora2 cooldown monitor |
| 12:28.53 | Ether_Man | ramoz, that idea has been presented and discarded because she's not a raider |
| 12:29.04 | Ether_Man | so doesnt use oRA2 |
| 12:29.14 | ramoz | right |
| 12:30.07 | Punkie` | Fisker-: um |
| 12:30.08 | Punkie` | nope |
| 12:30.13 | Marli | Hourglass |
| 12:30.19 | Punkie` | doesn't like bars |
| 12:30.21 | Marli | ) I need to make a nice cooldown addon for myself, something like [x] 5m where [x] is the icon |
| 12:30.28 | Marli | Hourglass. |
| 12:30.34 | Punkie` | dude that has bars |
| 12:30.37 | Marli | Fuck |
| 12:30.37 | Marli | You |
| 12:30.39 | Marli | Hourglass |
| 12:30.43 | Marli | Stop QQ moar hourglass |
| 12:30.46 | Punkie` | dude |
| 12:30.48 | Punkie` | i use hourglass |
| 12:30.49 | sylvanaar | i think the ankhfu wins |
| 12:30.49 | Punkie` | kk! |
| 12:32.43 | Arcaia | ankhfu does win |
| 12:32.44 | Fisker- | Punkie` i'm going to obvious troll you! |
| 12:34.48 | Punkie` | cool |
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| 12:36.07 | elusif | i'm trying to use auctioneer on a different server but it keeps using my old database |
| 12:36.19 | elusif | i've tried uninstalling it manually and using the uninstaller |
| 12:36.41 | elusif | but whenever it finishes scanning it says 'you're auctioneer saved variables file is 50% full' |
| 12:37.34 | Arcaia | delete the saved variables for auctioneer in your WTF folder |
| 12:37.35 | Punkie` | tried just deleting your savedvariables for auctioneer? or don't you want to do that |
| 12:37.42 | elusif | i've looked in C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\elusif\SavedVariables for the database to remove it but there's only Blizzard_AuctionUI.lua there |
| 12:37.56 | Marli | #norganna for good auctioneer support |
| 12:38.10 | elusif | ty both :) |
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| 12:39.44 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r50487 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 12:39.44 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 12:39.44 | CIA-12 | - Suppress cash gains from vendors/mailbox. |
| 12:39.44 | CIA-12 | - Adjustments for when user gains money from sources other than mobs. |
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| 12:41.38 | Hjalte | Anyone else having trouble with Cartographer or only me and a couple on Jira? |
| 12:41.47 | Hjalte | Cartographer Instance maps* |
| 12:41.52 | Ellipsis | I have had trouble with it |
| 12:41.58 | Ellipsis | I can only get it to show one Outlands map |
| 12:42.06 | Ellipsis | instance map, that is |
| 12:42.13 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: Yeah, same problem here. |
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| 12:42.30 | Grum | mm i had the version before yesterday and had no problems inside instances |
| 12:42.43 | Ellipsis | sometimes it works when I'm in the instance in question and then open the map |
| 12:42.53 | Ellipsis | but when I try to view them from outside, nothing |
| 12:43.19 | elusif | do you guys have an npc database for cart? |
| 12:43.33 | elusif | i prefer cart but have been forced back to using metamap because i'm levelling a toon |
| 12:43.37 | Arcaia | what does fubar_kungfu do? |
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| 12:44.26 | Hjalte | elusif, if you get lightheaded or so for quests, you will rarely need an npc database. |
| 12:44.45 | elusif | *noted* ty |
| 12:45.56 | QuantumDelta | lightheaded? |
| 12:46.14 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50488 10Talented_Data/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Talented_Data: regenerate |
| 12:46.17 | JoshBorke | lightheaded = win |
| 12:46.21 | Hjalte | QuantumDelta: Cladhaires addon with comments for quests from wowhead. |
| 12:46.31 | Arcaia | cartographer + beql + lightheaded = win. |
| 12:46.34 | QuantumDelta | hmm cute |
| 12:47.01 | the-golem | http://xkcd.com/30/ |
| 12:47.17 | elusif | beql? |
| 12:47.42 | Hjalte | elusif, a quest addon. i prefer questsfu myself. |
| 12:48.30 | Recluse | i like eql3, but i fear it's broken for good this time. beql is based on it, but beql's missing a lot of the functionality i used most (like putting quests under different zone headers) |
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| 12:49.22 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
| 12:49.23 | Fisker- | COME ON |
| 12:49.27 | Punkie` | heya |
| 12:49.32 | Fisker- | DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS |
| 12:49.37 | Fisker- | GIVE IT UP FOR ME |
| 12:49.39 | Fisker- | WOOOOOOOOH |
| 12:50.12 | Punkie` | speaking of ballmer! |
| 12:50.17 | Punkie` | http://xkcd.com/323/ |
| 12:50.19 | Punkie` | :D |
| 12:50.22 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 12:50.25 | Fisker- | old |
| 12:50.36 | Ellipsis | old? |
| 12:50.39 | Ellipsis | that's today's... |
| 12:50.50 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:50.52 | Fisker- | read it earlier |
| 12:50.57 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 12:51.01 | Ellipsis | that's not really "old" still |
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| 12:51.06 | Fisker- | of course it is |
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| 12:51.09 | Fisker- | i saw it hence it's old! |
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| 12:52.53 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: your mom is old |
| 12:53.00 | Punkie` | she is |
| 12:54.25 | Punkie` | it's kinda weird when people say lulz :P |
| 12:54.42 | Punkie` | especially if you know what lul means in dutch |
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| 12:58.10 | Hjalte | what does lul mean in dutch? |
| 12:58.36 | Punkie` | it's slang for penis |
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| 12:59.43 | Fisker- | i like lul |
| 13:00.29 | Punkie` | we know |
| 13:00.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [Ammo]] by ChanServ |
| 13:00.49 | krka | misspelling acronyms is retarded |
| 13:01.00 | Bruners | i like lål |
| 13:01.40 | Grum | l0lox! |
| 13:01.48 | SunTsu | Some germans tend to write löl - nobody ever will know what that's supposed to mean |
| 13:01.56 | Fisker- | LØØØØØØØØØØØØØL |
| 13:02.03 | Fisker- | eller LÃ…Ã…Ã…Ã…Ã…Ã…Ã…Ã…Ã…Ã…Ã…L |
| 13:02.07 | Fisker- | eller LAAAAAAAAAAAAL |
| 13:02.09 | Fisker- | etc. |
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| 13:02.25 | Bruners | :)) |
| 13:02.38 | Wobin | anyone else getting item link issues with Prat? |
| 13:02.57 | Bruners | nothing wrong yesterday atleast |
| 13:03.10 | Hjalte | Wobin, how? |
| 13:03.59 | Wobin | <<51:Hemoglobin>: Hemoglobin>11128:0:0:0:0:0:...[Golden Rod] on auction house... |
| 13:04.15 | Fisker- | stupid name |
| 13:04.18 | Grum | that is just people themself doing it wrong |
| 13:04.20 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 13:05.18 | cryogen | yum |
| 13:06.03 | elusif | why isn't lightheaded mod in files.wowace.com? |
| 13:06.25 | cryogen | because its author hasnt listed it? |
| 13:06.31 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r50489 10Ace3/AceConsole-3.0/AceConsole-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceConsole-3.0 - bugfix UnregisterChatCommand |
| 13:07.03 | Fisker- | anyone know what the current PTR build is? |
| 13:07.06 | elusif | k |
| 13:07.43 | kebinusan | Fisker, 2.2 is going live tuesday supposedly, I dunno tho |
| 13:07.49 | [Ammo] | 2.2.2 you mean |
| 13:07.51 | Wobin | Grum: No it's not |
| 13:07.55 | Wobin | cause it happens far too often |
| 13:07.56 | kebinusan | err yeah missed a .2 |
| 13:08.03 | Grum | Wobin: what channel? |
| 13:08.06 | Wobin | trade |
| 13:08.10 | Ellipsis | Wobin: looks like a screwed up player link causing problems |
| 13:08.20 | Grum | i've seen people do it manually |
| 13:08.53 | Wobin | It happens maybe 40% of the links =\ |
| 13:09.11 | Grum | and without prat its 100% fine? |
| 13:09.15 | Wobin | hm, maybe it's the colouring mod |
| 13:09.29 | Grum | i'm kinda sure prat doesnt break anything |
| 13:09.40 | Grum | *so* many people are using that :) |
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| 13:16.18 | QuantumDelta | ahahah http://xkcd.com/117/ Brilliant |
| 13:17.16 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r50490 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: Fix my stupid mistake >_< |
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| 13:18.10 | Crysli | Hi all |
| 13:20.55 | elusif | see when you have lightheaded and beql installed with cart |
| 13:21.13 | elusif | and under your questlog there's a number beside each quest just like when you're in a group |
| 13:21.23 | elusif | but it happens when you're not in a group |
| 13:21.33 | elusif | is this the amount of people on the server on the quest? |
| 13:22.50 | cryogen | isnt it the level of the quest? |
| 13:23.04 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r50491 10Prat/nonprat1/ (8 files): Prat: SVN convention for misc-stuff per-author? |
| 13:23.26 | Hjalte | elusif, if it's like 1,2,3,4 or small numbers like that it is how many members of your group is on that quest. |
| 13:23.31 | Crysli | I's have to say so too. |
| 13:23.45 | cryogen | 14:21 < elusif> but it happens when you're not in a group |
| 13:23.49 | elusif | ya but i'm not in a group |
| 13:23.53 | sylvanaar | Wobin what |
| 13:23.56 | Fisker- | Wobin you so 1337 |
| 13:23.58 | cryogen | what sort of numbers? |
| 13:24.00 | Crysli | elusif: then it's the quest level |
| 13:24.04 | Fisker- | how do i do multiple loops in a bash script |
| 13:24.04 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 13:24.21 | Fisker- | for conditions; for other conditions didn't go to well |
| 13:24.23 | elusif | 9 and 11 |
| 13:24.26 | elusif | ya quest level thanks |
| 13:24.55 | sylvanaar | Wobin oh, most likely someone trying to do a gsub on the playerlink |
| 13:25.39 | cryogen | Fisker-: if it doesnt work you are doing it wrong |
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| 13:25.55 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r50492 10Ace3/ (11 files in 11 dirs): |
| 13:25.55 | CIA-12 | Ace3: |
| 13:25.56 | CIA-12 | - toc to 20200 |
| 13:25.56 | CIA-12 | - make lib init consistant |
| 13:25.56 | CIA-12 | - update AceAddon docs |
| 13:26.04 | cryogen | for a in `foo` do for b in `bar` do done done |
| 13:26.06 | cryogen | should work |
| 13:26.08 | Fisker- | for i in `seq 7000 8000`; do for b in `seq 7000 8000`; |
| 13:26.13 | Fisker- | 2 dones? |
| 13:26.13 | Fisker- | :o |
| 13:26.23 | sylvanaar | Wobin those tend to match items without a space in thier names |
| 13:26.25 | dieck | Fisker-: 2 fors, 2 dones |
| 13:26.27 | Fisker- | ah you win |
| 13:26.36 | dieck | Fisker-: ähm, two do, two done |
| 13:26.38 | Fisker- | that's the good ol forgetting to escape when i code :P |
| 13:26.48 | Fisker- | i like you now cryogen |
| 13:26.52 | cryogen | im touched |
| 13:27.06 | Fisker- | you should be! |
| 13:28.18 | Fisker- | best post ever btw |
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| 13:28.30 | Fisker- | someone told us to enjoy our sub-standard lives |
| 13:28.51 | Fisker- | and i told him he was trolling and he kept telling us to get a life each time we had an argument against his |
| 13:28.54 | Fisker- | ... |
| 13:29.25 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016343678&sid=1&pageNo=2#24 |
| 13:29.28 | Fisker- | not trolling at all! |
| 13:30.06 | sylvanaar | Wobin you can change your brackets to [] instead of <> if whatever addon it is cant handle it |
| 13:30.19 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 13:30.26 | Ellipsis | e-drama is for e-tards =[ |
| 13:30.33 | cryogen | Ellipsis: how goes the addon search? |
| 13:30.46 | Ellipsis | cryogen: working on design docs for my new CD tracker! |
| 13:30.51 | cryogen | haha |
| 13:30.54 | Kamaris | does anyone know of a mod like !gem that can be used for say a mule that i use to sell various items not based on a specific profession, example: so i need something to scan my bags and let people search for x amount of a specific item that i'm selling at y price |
| 13:31.14 | Ellipsis | in between defending myself on another network where someone is impersonating me /sigh |
| 13:31.21 | cryogen | neat |
| 13:31.28 | cryogen | will this be a fubar based addon? |
| 13:31.44 | Ellipsis | it will probably have a FuBar plugin which could be configured to show the CD information in the bar/tooltip |
| 13:31.53 | Ellipsis | but primarily no |
| 13:32.08 | cryogen | how will it display its information? |
| 13:32.29 | Ellipsis | perhaps I should post something on the forums looking for suggestions |
| 13:32.46 | Ellipsis | already explained it once, don't feel like retyping it every time someone asks XD |
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| 13:33.04 | CIA-12 | 03pastamancer * r50493 10Grid/ (Grid.toc GridLocale-enUS.lua GridStatusVoiceComm.lua): Grid: Added voice chat status module from Halgrimm. |
| 13:33.45 | cryogen | sorry i missed it, then :) |
| 13:33.49 | Fisker- | NO pastamancer |
| 13:33.51 | cryogen | last i saw you were talking about fubar |
| 13:33.52 | Fisker- | add cool stuff :( |
| 13:34.16 | Fisker- | bad pastamancer etc. |
| 13:34.43 | Ellipsis | cryogen: FuBar for my SS CD, I wouldn't want all my CDs displayed there (particularly things I use in combat...) |
| 13:35.06 | cryogen | ah |
| 13:35.13 | cryogen | those sort of things i like on my buttons |
| 13:35.15 | cryogen | since im a heavy bar user |
| 13:35.48 | Ellipsis | I am not a clicker |
| 13:35.59 | cryogen | heavy bar user != clicker |
| 13:36.01 | MoonWitch | cd? |
| 13:36.07 | Ellipsis | well...I do still click a few things, but I'm cutting back more and more in the hopes of quitting :P |
| 13:36.52 | cryogen | you just use too many macros to have cooldowns on bars :p |
| 13:37.00 | cryogen | personally i like to have one button per ability |
| 13:37.18 | cryogen | depends which character im on though |
| 13:37.48 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r50494 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceTab-3.0 - optimization through use of local upvalues for string manipulation |
| 13:38.00 | MoonWitch | nvm about cd .. was being blonde >.< |
| 13:38.10 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 13:38.12 | Industrial | i like blonde.. |
| 13:38.17 | MoonWitch | << brunette |
| 13:38.19 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 13:38.21 | Industrial | :< |
| 13:38.26 | MoonWitch | but I have blonde moments ;) |
| 13:38.27 | Ellipsis | Industrial: I'd bleach my hair for you, baby |
| 13:38.32 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 13:38.39 | MoonWitch | ... no comment |
| 13:38.40 | Industrial | QFT :P |
| 13:39.22 | MoonWitch | I guess I have no choice but to learn PT3 huh lol... |
| 13:39.30 | Ellipsis | for what? |
| 13:39.35 | MoonWitch | PT3bar DOES have popup buttons like autobar right? |
| 13:39.38 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 13:39.40 | MoonWitch | for baggins and pt3bar |
| 13:39.42 | Ellipsis | and its default settings aren't bad |
| 13:39.42 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 13:39.46 | MoonWitch | I know |
| 13:39.47 | Ellipsis | btw |
| 13:39.52 | MoonWitch | yes? |
| 13:39.53 | cryogen | pt3bars default settings are terrible |
| 13:39.58 | cryogen | or were last time i checked it out |
| 13:40.09 | Ellipsis | there's a modifier click in baggins to let you see item info on an item including which PT3 sets it's in |
| 13:40.12 | Ellipsis | might be helpful for you :P |
| 13:40.20 | MoonWitch | ah .. yep thanks |
| 13:40.22 | Ellipsis | if only I could remember what it was |
| 13:40.26 | Ellipsis | shift-rightclick or something random |
| 13:40.40 | cryogen | hmm |
| 13:40.51 | cryogen | im still hungry, even though ive eaten a shitload of stuff for lunch |
| 13:40.56 | Ellipsis | fatty! |
| 13:40.57 | MoonWitch | you wouldn't believe the amount of notes I have on wow addons now. lol I can't remember what I had for breakfast, so pt3 will be quite a challenge |
| 13:41.00 | MoonWitch | mmmm foooooood |
| 13:41.05 | MoonWitch | it's almost 4PM here ;) |
| 13:41.16 | Ellipsis | I can't remember what I had for breakfast either |
| 13:41.16 | cryogen | Ellipsis: far from it :D |
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| 13:41.26 | Ellipsis | although that's probably because even the definition of breakfast is a tough one for me |
| 13:41.29 | cryogen | Ellipsis: i weigh 9 stone |
| 13:41.36 | Ellipsis | what's that in real measurement? :P |
| 13:41.40 | cryogen | mmm |
| 13:41.47 | cryogen | just less than 60 kilos i think |
| 13:41.53 | cryogen | im not up on my metic weights |
| 13:41.55 | Ellipsis | ...again, in *real* measurement? :P |
| 13:42.13 | Ellipsis | how many pounds in a stone? |
| 13:42.25 | Necrathex | is there an easy way to move the bags anchor? |
| 13:42.33 | cryogen | i have no idea |
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| 13:42.48 | cryogen | i know us measurements less than i do metric |
| 13:42.50 | Ellipsis | Necrathex: default bags? I saw an addon for that on WoWI |
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| 13:43.24 | Necrathex | Ellipsis: yea, just the normal blizzard bags, remember the name? |
| 13:43.38 | cryogen | Ellipsis: 126 lbs, apparently |
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| 13:43.49 | Ellipsis | Necrathex: I could probably find it again if you give me a min :P |
| 13:43.59 | Ellipsis | cryogen: ah, now that's a unit that makes sense! ;) |
| 13:44.41 | CIA-12 | 03gagorian * r50495 10DrDamage/ (Data/Hunter.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua): |
| 13:44.41 | CIA-12 | DrDamage: |
| 13:44.41 | CIA-12 | - Fixed modifier key update bug. Blizzard switched MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED event arg1 states to "LCTRL"/"RCTRL" instead of "CTRL" (same goes for ALT and SHIFT) |
| 13:44.41 | CIA-12 | - Added DPS line for steadyshot based on 1 shot per weapon speed |
| 13:44.46 | Industrial | whats an lbs? can I eat it? |
| 13:45.00 | Crysli | Industrial: Yes, and it's delicious |
| 13:45.16 | Ellipsis | Necrathex: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6902-ItsBagMover.html << Ace2 |
| 13:45.35 | cryogen | it's a strange measurement |
| 13:45.39 | Industrial | oh a pound. |
| 13:45.42 | Necrathex | Ellipsis: thanks :D |
| 13:45.44 | cryogen | yes |
| 13:45.51 | MoonWitch | oh yes, what is DPK? |
| 13:46.25 | Industrial | ~wtf dpk |
| 13:46.32 | Industrial | ~wtf lbs |
| 13:46.38 | CIA-12 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r50496 10Ace3/AceBucket-3.0/AceBucket-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceBucket-3.0 - Add a few local upvalues |
| 13:46.39 | Industrial | purl: ur dum. |
| 13:46.53 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 13:47.05 | Industrial | purl: ur dum is <reply>NO U |
| 13:47.05 | purl | okay, Industrial |
| 13:47.09 | Industrial | purl: ur dum |
| 13:47.10 | purl | NO U |
| 13:47.14 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 13:47.18 | Ellipsis | cute |
| 13:48.33 | [Ammo] | Gagorian: hmm so they don't send ALT or CTRL at all now? jjust RALT and LALT? |
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| 13:48.43 | Gagorian | Yup |
| 13:48.43 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r50497 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua tests/AceDB-3.0-defaults.lua): |
| 13:48.43 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 13:48.43 | CIA-12 | - fix for non-table * defaults, and tests for that |
| 13:48.48 | [Ammo] | hmmok |
| 13:48.55 | Fisker- | i'm going to 31108 you [Ammo] |
| 13:49.02 | Ellipsis | can I watch? |
| 13:49.11 | cryogen | [Ammo]: do you still grok ora2? |
| 13:49.11 | Fisker- | no that would be weird |
| 13:49.14 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 13:49.26 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50498 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: check for left or right alt for bar modifier key |
| 13:49.33 | Industrial | Ellipsis: hentai! |
| 13:49.41 | Ellipsis | WTB? |
| 13:49.45 | cryogen | heyhey |
| 13:49.53 | cryogen | is that whats causing the cooldown frame to not move in ora2? |
| 13:50.02 | cryogen | modifier key goodness |
| 13:50.18 | cryogen | the race is on to commit the fix |
| 13:50.19 | cryogen | go! |
| 13:51.36 | Necrathex | Ellipsis: that bagmover addon pwns ;) |
| 13:51.43 | *** part/#wowace Stanzilla2 (n=bs@p54996B36.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:51.48 | [Ammo] | cryogen: could be |
| 13:51.50 | [Ammo] | cryogen: checking |
| 13:51.58 | cryogen | thanks honey |
| 13:52.39 | Ellipsis | Necrathex: glad to be of service :) |
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| 13:52.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 13:53.33 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50499 10WindowLib/Window-1.0/Window-1.0.lua: WindowLib: fix modifier state change alt key detection, this should fix the issues with oRA2's cooldown monitor etc not moving |
| 13:53.41 | Industrial | I want to replace MikScrollingBattleText with something that is not Parrot nor SCT. Any hints/recommendations? |
| 13:53.42 | cryogen | woot |
| 13:54.05 | [Ammo] | Industrial: just use MSBT |
| 13:54.10 | [Ammo] | or even better |
| 13:54.17 | [Ammo] | use FCT and modify it with a scratch adon |
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| 13:54.21 | cryogen | im quite happy with MSBT |
| 13:54.24 | Industrial | I've been using it for a long time and it's one of my "can't live without" addons, but its just the same old same old. |
| 13:54.26 | cryogen | i just cant decide how to have it display |
| 13:54.32 | cryogen | Industrial: if it aint broke.. |
| 13:54.53 | Industrial | I split the output damage into me and pet, pet is a bit to the right of my damage output |
| 13:54.55 | cryogen | one thing id like to have in msbt is a contraction to the text |
| 13:54.57 | [Ammo] | Gagorian: thanks for that find ;) |
| 13:55.04 | Gagorian | [Ammo]: No problem :D |
| 13:55.04 | cryogen | the damage text can get a bit... wide |
| 13:55.25 | Industrial | [Ammo]: problem is that the FCT font is butt-ugly and I haven't found a way to de-uglify it. |
| 13:56.03 | cryogen | im almost tempted to disable any form of SCT addon because i cant set it up right :) |
| 13:56.14 | cryogen | i have too much crap taking up the screen |
| 13:56.25 | [Ammo] | Industrial: kyahx has some modifier addon |
| 13:56.27 | [Ammo] | for FCT |
| 13:56.35 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:49] <Industrial> Ellipsis: hentai! <--what |
| 13:56.36 | Industrial | ill look into it |
| 13:56.36 | sag_ich_nicht | giev |
| 13:56.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial giev |
| 13:56.45 | [Ammo] | my problem with FCT is that's it's HUGE |
| 13:56.52 | [Ammo] | the fontsize is humongous |
| 13:57.03 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: I meant that she was that ;p |
| 13:57.06 | Ellipsis | I am? |
| 13:57.11 | cryogen | is FCT the blizzard built in stuff? |
| 13:57.13 | Industrial | yes, and too fast (but you can change that by global vars) |
| 13:57.20 | Industrial | Ellipsis: and it was a joke. |
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| 13:57.25 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50500 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 13:57.25 | CIA-12 | Grid: |
| 13:57.25 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 13:57.26 | Ellipsis | darn |
| 13:57.28 | Ellipsis | that would be awesome |
| 13:57.34 | Industrial | ..lol |
| 13:57.38 | Ellipsis | I'm still confused about why you said it, though |
| 13:57.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:57] <Industrial> sag_ich_nicht: I meant that she was that ;p <--ur doin it rong |
| 13:57.56 | Industrial | because you wanted to look in on ammo and fisker's private moment :P |
| 13:58.19 | Industrial | Ellipsis >> can I watch? |
| 13:58.20 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50501 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fix all HASTE ratings to the new value. |
| 13:58.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: hentai is japanese for pervert |
| 13:58.26 | sag_ich_nicht | as in |
| 13:58.28 | sag_ich_nicht | "you pervert" |
| 13:59.05 | Ellipsis | so? |
| 13:59.17 | sag_ich_nicht | nothing |
| 13:59.22 | Ellipsis | watching two men have sex is not perverted |
| 13:59.27 | Jagobah | I thought that was ecchi |
| 13:59.29 | Ellipsis | at least not on the scale widely used on the internet |
| 13:59.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Jagobah: ecchi is perverted as in "that's perverted" |
| 14:00.08 | Jagobah | :O ! |
| 14:00.09 | Megalon | it's time for a TENTACLERAPE! |
| 14:00.12 | Jagobah | The more you know! |
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| 14:01.34 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50502 10LibStub/LibStub.toc: LibStub: toc to the hand |
| 14:04.51 | [Ammo] | ~C'thun |
| 14:04.52 | purl | [Ammo]: Is that a tentacle in your pants or are you happy to see me? |
| 14:05.03 | cryogen | heh |
| 14:05.08 | Grum | he's got an eye on you |
| 14:05.20 | Grum | ~literal C'thun |
| 14:05.21 | purl | "c'thun" is "(<reply>*** Incoming tentacle rape party! (~10secs|~5secs|Pleasure)! ***|<reply> $lastspeaker: Is that a tentacle in your pants or are you happy to see me?)" |
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| 14:06.11 | Mezir | cheesecake! |
| 14:06.17 | Mezir | err i mean: HI! |
| 14:06.19 | Mezir | ^^ |
| 14:06.37 | cryogen | i remember the drama that that bigwigs module caused |
| 14:06.38 | cryogen | was funny |
| 14:06.41 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 14:06.41 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:06.52 | *** join/#wowace Stanzilla (n=Stanzill@p54996B36.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:06.58 | [Ammo] | it's still in |
| 14:06.59 | *** join/#wowace Stanzilla2 (n=bs@p54996B36.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:07.02 | [Ammo] | theoption for the fun messages :) |
| 14:07.07 | cryogen | hehe |
| 14:07.17 | cryogen | yeah i remember the option being added |
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| 14:07.37 | *** join/#wowace TE|Kulaar (n=182Kulaa@p5B157F98.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:07.40 | TE|Kulaar | hi |
| 14:08.02 | TE|Kulaar | can someone tell me if i can access the eepanels2 config menu without fubar? |
| 14:08.19 | [Ammo] | yeah the uptight conservative american community caused the tentacle rape to become an option |
| 14:08.35 | cryogen | did it remain the default? |
| 14:08.42 | [Ammo] | think so |
| 14:08.49 | cryogen | :) |
| 14:08.51 | [Ammo] | but it's a moot point now |
| 14:09.02 | [Ammo] | don't think C'Thun gets killed much |
| 14:09.11 | [Ammo] | no-one in their right mind would clear the trash to him |
| 14:09.35 | Ybrith | skipping trash is overra.. okay, lets dont do this. |
| 14:09.45 | cryogen | yeah |
| 14:09.56 | cryogen | it went in quite a while before tbc though as i recall |
| 14:10.00 | Ybrith | anyone here that has an idea if JoinChannelByName() was changed in the last patch? |
| 14:10.33 | Ybrith | didnt read anything about it, yet if I join a channel by this function, its gone away after logout |
| 14:10.40 | Ybrith | wasnt this way before 2.2 |
| 14:11.01 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (i=bozartmp@bozarth1.rit.edu) |
| 14:11.06 | Ellipsis | nah, we all know Blizz doesn't do undocumented API changes! |
| 14:11.25 | Ybrith | how would they |
| 14:12.00 | Ybrith | guess you now have to register your channel in some way.. hoped to find someone who knows more about |
| 14:14.19 | MoonWitch | well I made a channel for our guild, and after I log out, it's still there even with no one in it |
| 14:14.27 | MoonWitch | when I log in, my char auto joins it |
| 14:14.35 | Mezir | oi, what was the name of the ace updater again? can't find it on the page o_O |
| 14:14.35 | *** join/#wowace kaiden-- (n=kaiden@63.229.62.12) |
| 14:14.40 | cryogen | ~wua |
| 14:14.43 | Ellipsis | ~wau |
| 14:14.43 | purl | somebody said wau was WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 14:14.43 | [Ammo] | check the topic mezir |
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| 14:14.45 | Mezir | 12T14hanks |
| 14:14.46 | [Ammo] | of this channel |
| 14:14.47 | Ellipsis | ~fail cryogen |
| 14:14.47 | purl | cryogen: Fail. |
| 14:14.47 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 14:14.57 | cryogen | winupacedater? |
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| 14:15.04 | kaiden | wowaceupdater |
| 14:15.39 | rob` | searching google for 'ace updater' brings it right up |
| 14:15.46 | rob` | didn't need to ask irc |
| 14:15.48 | rob` | l2google |
| 14:16.50 | abbat_w | ~ammo |
| 14:16.50 | purl | i heard ammo is someone that should reroll druid and call his character Ammoooo |
| 14:16.59 | abbat_w | ;))) |
| 14:17.19 | Crysli | I hate to admit it, but that one actually made me lol. |
| 14:17.39 | cryogen | heh |
| 14:17.51 | cryogen | i always thought ammo was a tauren druid for some reason |
| 14:17.58 | cryogen | i was disappointed to learn his real identity |
| 14:18.09 | CIA-12 | 03nevcairiel * r50503 10CartoAce/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/notes.lua: CartoAce: backport akama node to black temple |
| 14:18.18 | abbat_w | Btw |
| 14:18.35 | abbat_w | Please fix cartographer to show colored points on battleground map |
| 14:18.47 | abbat_w | points has correspong class color |
| 14:18.57 | abbat_w | now they just white and always blink |
| 14:19.52 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: update your carto |
| 14:19.59 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: was fixed yesterday |
| 14:20.13 | [Ammo] | and the fix was ported to the rock version of carto as well |
| 14:20.35 | [Ammo] | cryogen: I am a gnome warlock |
| 14:20.40 | cryogen | i know. :p |
| 14:20.43 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak ammo |
| 14:20.46 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Ammo, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (42/2/17). 9950 HP; 9835 Mana; 107 mana regen; 124 spell crit; 117 spell hit; 1047 +spell dmg; 51 shadow dmg (1098); 4.47% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1491 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrdeep ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mn4jo ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 10:20:51 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:20.57 | cryogen | you used to play with a friend of mine |
| 14:21.04 | cryogen | or he played with you, one or the othe |
| 14:21.05 | cryogen | r |
| 14:21.05 | [Ammo] | could be |
| 14:21.07 | abbat_w | Ammo, thanks |
| 14:21.22 | Towbar | is phazer / photek playing kazzak EU atm? |
| 14:21.24 | abbat_w | and now 2 version of Carto? One is for rock and one is for ace? |
| 14:21.25 | Chompers | ammo is a warlock? :O |
| 14:21.31 | Towbar | used to know him on my old server |
| 14:21.34 | [Ammo] | photek used to play kazzak yeah |
| 14:21.41 | Towbar | and Haomarush |
| 14:21.41 | abbat_w | Chompers, yeah. |
| 14:21.42 | [Ammo] | before that daggerspine where we all played |
| 14:21.46 | Towbar | thats where I knew him |
| 14:21.53 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak bubblehearth |
| 14:21.56 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Bubblehearth, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (46/5/10). 7027 HP; 8823 Mana; 175 mana regen; 73 mp5; 11657 Armour; 75.300 Melee DPS; 2.93% melee crit; 77 spell crit; 227 +spell dmg; 1197 +heal; 3.73% dodge; 4.92% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1090 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywss62 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okrqu ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 10:22:01 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:21.59 | Towbar | lol |
| 14:21.59 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | haha |
| 14:22.01 | Towbar | haha |
| 14:22.08 | [Ammo] | that's my paladin |
| 14:22.15 | Towbar | love teh name |
| 14:22.17 | abbat_w | What about hunter? :) |
| 14:22.17 | Towbar | the* |
| 14:22.18 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | yes |
| 14:22.24 | [Ammo] | my huntard is level 10 |
| 14:22.28 | [Ammo] | or 11 |
| 14:22.33 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak blammo |
| 14:22.35 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Blammo, Level 11 Dwarf Hunter (0/0/0). 256 HP; 315 Mana; 33 mana regen; 4.20% melee crit; 4.40% ranged crit; 3.67% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 80 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gev5t ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2srega ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 10:22:41 2007 EST ]] |
| 14:22.42 | cryogen | 0/0/0? |
| 14:22.42 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | lol on the name again |
| 14:22.58 | [Ammo] | cryogen: he's my violation testing character |
| 14:22.58 | cryogen | repsec your talent points! |
| 14:23.01 | sylvanaar | man, i just fixed epp's table display, now you can navigate a huge sv tree |
| 14:23.01 | [Ammo] | no need for talents |
| 14:23.08 | [Ammo] | slammo is my warrior :) |
| 14:23.11 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | LOL |
| 14:23.15 | cryogen | heh |
| 14:23.17 | Towbar | rofl |
| 14:23.18 | cryogen | imaginitive |
| 14:23.21 | [Ammo] | yarrr |
| 14:23.25 | [Ammo] | someone took Shammo though |
| 14:23.26 | [Ammo] | grr |
| 14:23.28 | Towbar | what would you call a rogue? |
| 14:23.28 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | har |
| 14:23.35 | [Ammo] | my rogue is called Spiked |
| 14:23.38 | Deidra-AlleriaEU | :> |
| 14:23.39 | Towbar | meh |
| 14:24.13 | Mezir | wau rocks! i love you guys <3 thouth i'd have lotsa work but finished it in a sec :D |
| 14:24.22 | Ellipsis | spammo for mage imo |
| 14:24.24 | Hjalte | [Ammo], you do any heroic instances on your paladin? I might've been to somewhere with him. |
| 14:24.35 | [Ammo] | nope |
| 14:24.43 | Towbar | WTB heroic deadmines |
| 14:24.44 | [Ammo] | I did one 2 kara runs |
| 14:24.48 | Towbar | with lvl 72 VC |
| 14:24.48 | [Ammo] | last run I got 8 pieces of loot |
| 14:24.52 | [Ammo] | that's why he has the gear he has :) |
| 14:25.03 | Towbar | palazhan... |
| 14:25.05 | Towbar | seriously |
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| 14:25.16 | aestil | Ellipsis: get on the metrolink to chatsworth. |
| 14:25.30 | aestil | go to the shirley and plummer starbucks in northridge. |
| 14:25.34 | backbone | AceEvent-2.0 :RegisterEvent("event" [, method] [, once]) method: string or function ; have both ways the same performance? |
| 14:25.44 | [Ammo] | backbone: yes |
| 14:25.48 | aestil | ??? |
| 14:25.49 | [Ammo] | approx |
| 14:25.52 | Ellipsis | maybe I can get my bf to wake up early and drive me aestil <3 |
| 14:25.52 | aestil | profit |
| 14:26.04 | aestil | its a 1hr drive or so. |
| 14:26.09 | backbone | thx a lot |
| 14:26.19 | aestil | hasta la bye bye. going to work. |
| 14:26.30 | Ellipsis | hf |
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| 14:29.52 | Ellipsis | I wanna download http |
| 14:30.05 | kaiden | ... |
| 14:30.13 | kaiden | Free Burma! |
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| 14:32.09 | syeren | ckknight, are you around? |
| 14:32.38 | kaiden | syeren, he's dead, i fed his body to purl |
| 14:33.02 | syeren | Ah, good decision. |
| 14:33.03 | winkiller | lol, lotro 7 day trial ad in WAU :D |
| 14:34.17 | SMELTN | lol |
| 14:34.40 | mykx | hrm is it possible to disable the heals/damage on pitbulls player/target frames |
| 14:34.49 | mykx | I have looked but cannot seem to find the option |
| 14:35.00 | Stanzilla2 | combat text? |
| 14:35.03 | elusif | i've set cart's filter to display skinning and lw trainers but i don't see them on my map |
| 14:35.07 | elusif | it displays ore np |
| 14:35.11 | mykx | yeah combat text but on the frames |
| 14:35.16 | elusif | how do i make it display the trainers? |
| 14:35.23 | Hjalte | elusif, do you have any npcs in your database? |
| 14:35.28 | Ellipsis | mykx: that's the Combat Text module |
| 14:35.30 | MoonWitch | LOTRO apparently is a WoW clone with a less cartoon look |
| 14:35.37 | kaiden | sooo, anyone here ever been successful in duplicating caithlyn's latest ui? :) |
| 14:35.40 | Ellipsis | you can disable it per frame in the Texts options, or disable the module altogether |
| 14:35.41 | mykx | ah ok silly me :P |
| 14:35.42 | elusif | just ones i've visited hjalte |
| 14:35.46 | kaiden | MoonWitch, meh, i dont like the combat much in LOTRO |
| 14:35.47 | QuantumDelta | lotro really is a wowclone :P |
| 14:35.48 | elusif | i just installed cart this morning |
| 14:35.48 | mykx | thanks |
| 14:35.50 | kaiden | it was quite annoying |
| 14:36.19 | elusif | i have Cartographer_nnTrainers |
| 14:36.20 | MoonWitch | kaiden, I can't be bothered with downloading 8GB just to give it a whirl (we belgians get stupid bandwidth restrictions by all ISPs) |
| 14:36.39 | SMELTN | link it kaiden |
| 14:36.58 | mykx | I love pitbull now that I took 20 minutes to configure it ;p |
| 14:37.02 | kaiden | MoonWitch, why not just order it from amazon? |
| 14:37.04 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 07jerry * r50504 10Grid/Grid/ (4 files): Grid: (branch) merge recent changes from the trunk. |
| 14:37.27 | MoonWitch | kaiden, because Amazon (and most online stores) don't ship to belgium, software and hardware. |
| 14:37.35 | kaiden | SMELTN: http://ohnoes.cc/concepts/10042885jp1.jpg |
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| 14:37.48 | kaiden | MoonWitch, that's what friends are for :) |
| 14:37.48 | MoonWitch | it's quite ridiculous. Something with import taxes I am sure. |
| 14:37.56 | SMELTN | thats photek isnt it? |
| 14:38.03 | kaiden | SMELTN, no, it's caithlyn |
| 14:38.17 | SMELTN | man that looks sweet |
| 14:38.21 | kaiden | photek can't design, he just updates addons lol :) |
| 14:38.25 | SMELTN | although I would have 5 other bars |
| 14:38.25 | SMELTN | lol |
| 14:38.38 | MoonWitch | I still love the raid group layout |
| 14:38.41 | SMELTN | are those ac addons? |
| 14:38.49 | mykx | Caithlyns uis are awesome but don't work nicely with my monitor |
| 14:38.52 | SMELTN | yeah I tried to copy someone elses Raid layout last night |
| 14:38.56 | Marli | So hard to open wowhead |
| 14:38.59 | SMELTN | and ck even tried to walk me through it |
| 14:39.04 | SMELTN | didnt go so well :( |
| 14:39.04 | MoonWitch | mykx, same issue |
| 14:39.14 | mykx | I just made my own ;p |
| 14:39.19 | SMELTN | yeah I did too |
| 14:39.29 | SMELTN | but I dont like it as much as some |
| 14:39.30 | Marli | (15:34:18) (MoonWitch) LOTRO apparently is a WoW clone with a less cartoon look |
| 14:39.31 | Marli | hahahaha |
| 14:39.33 | Marli | not quite |
| 14:39.45 | MoonWitch | my issue in raid layout is simple. I have a 17" monitor, small space, and need to see buffs as well, which makes it harder. |
| 14:40.03 | MoonWitch | I've considered not using Raid UF, and using grid, but I can't make out the buffs and all that |
| 14:40.07 | SMELTN | http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3879/whates4.jpg |
| 14:40.12 | SMELTN | my current layout I did last night |
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| 14:40.24 | Marli | I used to have a 17", I just used Grid and made a square for the buffs I need to see |
| 14:40.28 | SunTsu | !vs EU nozdormu Vorador EU nozdormu Yennie |
| 14:40.34 | Marli | What class are you MoonWitch |
| 14:40.35 | ThraeBot | SunTsu: Vorador vs Yennie! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 41/9/11 vs 42/19/0; Yennie wins by 454 TBRs! |
| 14:40.47 | MoonWitch | Pally, but I have a mage and a priest as well |
| 14:40.56 | SMELTN | its named whates because I was asking ck about the target being a scorch or whatever icon in it |
| 14:41.00 | SMELTN | ck said its a bug right now |
| 14:41.11 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 14:41.19 | *** join/#wowace Torn|OFF (i=haldir@tserv03.mops.net) |
| 14:41.19 | MoonWitch | basically, I need to know what to cast Blessing of Wisdom or Blessing of Might. |
| 14:41.22 | Marli | Mage and Priest just have a square that shows if they have AI/PWF or not |
| 14:41.26 | Marli | Pally just use PP |
| 14:41.26 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 14:41.30 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Wraithhammer! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/8/53 vs 5/0/56; Wraithhammer wins by 1038 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:41.41 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you anduinlothar :( |
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| 14:41.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart KarlKFI |
| 14:41.57 | purl | blames KarlKFI for all the evil in the world |
| 14:42.01 | Marli | SMELTN whats are the raid frames |
| 14:42.04 | Marli | -s |
| 14:42.11 | mykx | pitbull |
| 14:42.15 | Marli | mm k |
| 14:42.26 | mykx | oh wait for smeltn ? |
| 14:42.29 | MoonWitch | SMELTN, what are those little boxes in colors above the chat frame?? |
| 14:42.51 | Industrial | How do I match empty ammo bag slots or empty quiver slots in Baggins? I want to make a category called Ammo that contains all ammo types (including thrown) and empty quiver/ammobag slots. |
| 14:42.53 | mykx | that's decursive |
| 14:42.56 | mykx | pretty sure |
| 14:43.10 | Ellipsis | Industrial: container type? |
| 14:43.14 | SMELTN | yeah |
| 14:43.18 | Industrial | hmm, right |
| 14:43.24 | SMELTN | the boxes are decursive |
| 14:43.32 | MoonWitch | ah thanks. |
| 14:43.33 | SunTsu | MoonWitch: I tried, and I failed ;) |
| 14:43.48 | MoonWitch | see I have pb set up to only show tiny HP bars for the raids |
| 14:43.56 | SMELTN | I also have violation usually on |
| 14:43.57 | MoonWitch | with buffs to the right of it |
| 14:44.02 | SMELTN | on the top of the minimap |
| 14:44.03 | *** join/#wowace Mech0z_ (i=Mech0z@d40ae5d9.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 14:44.04 | SMELTN | covers it |
| 14:44.16 | SMELTN | and Omen is on the left next to decursive |
| 14:44.25 | MoonWitch | nice |
| 14:44.29 | sag_ich_nicht | grrr |
| 14:44.41 | MoonWitch | I haven't got any of those setup in a correct place, I just drag em around so far |
| 14:45.01 | MoonWitch | SunTsu, that will be my 3rd time of trying to get grid right lol |
| 14:45.31 | SunTsu | MoonWitch: I will take Grum by his word and let me walk through it ;) |
| 14:45.33 | sag_ich_nicht | I WILL BEAT YOU ANDUINLOTHAR, I AM CLOSE! ONLY 100 AP MORE! (then only your MP pool will save you) |
| 14:45.58 | MoonWitch | SunTsu, lol can I join in ;) |
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| 14:46.09 | cryogen | any raiding shadowpriests want to share a screenshot of their ui? |
| 14:46.09 | Ellipsis | Grid isn't that tough to configure o.O |
| 14:46.22 | MoonWitch | Ellipsis, I know, I just never took a decent amount of time for it |
| 14:46.25 | sag_ich_nicht | shadowpriests only need one button |
| 14:46.29 | sag_ich_nicht | it's called "i win" |
| 14:46.30 | SMELTN | lol |
| 14:46.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 14:46.34 | cryogen | heh |
| 14:46.43 | cryogen | "raiding shadowpriests" :p |
| 14:46.47 | sag_ich_nicht | (aka manaburn :() |
| 14:46.56 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I know shadowpriests are a lot like locks, but please don't mix the two up :P |
| 14:47.13 | Marli | My pally shadowpriest warlock and rogues UIs look all the the same |
| 14:47.13 | Gorrth | hey, is the person who does Pitbull around? |
| 14:47.26 | sag_ich_nicht | you want ckknight Gorrth |
| 14:47.33 | sag_ich_nicht | i drive home now |
| 14:47.35 | sag_ich_nicht | bye |
| 14:47.37 | Marli | You dont want ckknight tbh |
| 14:47.37 | Marli | =) |
| 14:47.44 | Industrial | Ellipsis: http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9694/wowscrnshot100107164521po3.jpg |
| 14:47.46 | cryogen | Marli: show me? :) |
| 14:48.00 | Ellipsis | Industrial: not a PT rule |
| 14:48.03 | Industrial | and yes, my gear is smashed. |
| 14:48.09 | Ellipsis | you want a container rule |
| 14:48.15 | Industrial | k |
| 14:48.23 | Ellipsis | yours will put ammo bags themselves in that category, not the spaces in them XD |
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| 14:49.35 | Grum | SunTsu: WHAT? |
| 14:49.57 | mykx | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1077/1467800769_8f1353f609_o.jpg |
| 14:50.20 | SunTsu | Grum: You said so ;) Last thursday ;) |
| 14:50.30 | SunTsu | I remember and I have logs ;) |
| 14:50.32 | Tornhoof | mm myxk is that shiny bolt thingie a castbar? |
| 14:50.32 | Grum | said what? cookies are <3 ? |
| 14:50.43 | mykx | shiny bolt thingie? :P |
| 14:50.53 | mykx | ohh up top no that's an xp bar |
| 14:50.54 | Ellipsis | Tornhoof: FuXPFu |
| 14:51.06 | Tornhoof | ah ok |
| 14:51.37 | mykx | I can never get my uis right I always gotta change shit around |
| 14:51.43 | Grum | SunTsu: what did i say that made so much sense? |
| 14:51.50 | SunTsu | Grum: that you would help setting up grid a little more useful |
| 14:52.07 | SunTsu | When you showed off with your grid setting ;) |
| 14:52.12 | Grum | oooh |
| 14:52.22 | Grum | i never did such a thing! |
| 14:52.42 | SunTsu | Grum: Don't worry, I learn very fast, you just have to explain very slowly ;) |
| 14:52.44 | SMELTN | man.. I want Caithlyn's frames now |
| 14:52.45 | SMELTN | and font |
| 14:52.58 | CIA-12 | 03jncl * r50505 10Skinner/ (CharacterFrames1.lua CharacterFrames2.lua): Skinner: Friends Frame & Character Frame Tab placement now localised for enUS, deDE, frFR & esES, other languages use default values |
| 14:53.11 | Grum | SunTsu: open configuration |
| 14:53.17 | Grum | next issue, in 2 months. KK? |
| 14:53.24 | mykx | I have the font it doesn't look good on my monitor/rez |
| 14:53.29 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50506 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 14:53.29 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 14:53.29 | CIA-12 | - fix active spell tracker |
| 14:53.31 | SunTsu | Grum: Please, take your time ;) |
| 14:53.32 | mykx | I think he/she uses like 1600 or something |
| 14:53.50 | SMELTN | I am running 1440x900 |
| 14:54.01 | mykx | 1280x1024 is my max :[ |
| 14:54.12 | SMELTN | share the font? |
| 14:54.17 | SMELTN | want to see how it looks |
| 14:54.17 | mykx | sure one sec |
| 14:54.27 | SMELTN | she is using Pitbull now too? |
| 14:54.29 | Grum | SunTsu: i'm quite sure i only said to help someone else ^^ .. a druid! |
| 14:54.50 | mykx | yeah |
| 14:55.02 | mykx | hrm the site with her ui on it is now down |
| 14:55.03 | SMELTN | man |
| 14:55.08 | SMELTN | she needs to share it |
| 14:55.15 | SMELTN | she never shares her ui does she? |
| 14:55.27 | mykx | she posted it on omgphatloots or w/e |
| 14:55.45 | SMELTN | hmm |
| 14:55.53 | SMELTN | she is using perfectraid instead of pitbull |
| 14:55.57 | SMELTN | for the raid frames |
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| 14:56.25 | mykx | grid for me but it's preference |
| 14:56.33 | SunTsu | Grum: Relax ;) I'm not all serious ;) |
| 14:56.46 | Grum | *BOUCNES OMGHA* |
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| 14:57.58 | SunTsu | Grum: I liked to see you panic ;) |
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| 15:00.24 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 15:00.35 | Ellipsis | it's fun to make Grum panic |
| 15:00.36 | Industrial | hmm, I mved my chat to the topleft - lets see if I like it :o |
| 15:00.44 | Ellipsis | Industrial: o.O |
| 15:00.47 | Industrial | too bad I cant get the tabs below the charframe easily |
| 15:00.48 | Ellipsis | are you using minimizable frames? |
| 15:00.51 | Industrial | no |
| 15:00.56 | Ellipsis | but then...the fading...it's all wrong |
| 15:00.58 | Industrial | http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7885/wowscrnshot100107165731cs8.jpg |
| 15:01.04 | Industrial | its just really small :P |
| 15:01.20 | Ellipsis | interesting. |
| 15:01.20 | Grum | nopressingmybuttons :'( |
| 15:01.22 | Ellipsis | also: pet class. HA! |
| 15:01.38 | Industrial | ha! yes! and thers my petframe under my playerframe |
| 15:01.41 | Industrial | :> |
| 15:01.53 | Ellipsis | but all uncenteredish |
| 15:01.54 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 15:02.18 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 15:02.18 | Industrial | nah, party is on the other side exactly the same offset |
| 15:02.23 | Corey | you need to repair |
| 15:02.25 | Industrial | :x |
| 15:02.38 | Ellipsis | anyone know of a Firefox plugin that lets you scroll with WASD? |
| 15:02.40 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.44 | Ellipsis | because I keep trying to do it by mistake |
| 15:03.10 | mykx | I play WoW with WASD yet can't use that comb in FPS games :\ |
| 15:03.14 | mykx | combo* |
| 15:03.26 | Corey | what do you use in fps games |
| 15:03.31 | cryogen | Ellipsis: cant you just remap the keys yourself? |
| 15:03.34 | mykx | arrow keys and I'm not terrible either |
| 15:03.37 | Crysli | Industrial: Thought of using Geist for the buttons in the top right corner? |
| 15:03.37 | Ellipsis | cryogen: how plz? |
| 15:03.51 | Ellipsis | I is Firefox nub |
| 15:03.51 | cryogen | no idea |
| 15:03.54 | durcyn | huh, keyboard turning in wow or an fps? kill yourself. |
| 15:04.02 | mykx | not for turning |
| 15:04.16 | mykx | for moving forward/back and strafing at least in cs :\ |
| 15:04.38 | ccKep | stop... u mean I can turn without using a keyboard? |
| 15:04.39 | Industrial | Crysli: no, but thats a good idea |
| 15:04.55 | Ellipsis | ~facepalm |
| 15:04.55 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 15:05.20 | Crysli | Industrial: I managed to kill a whole action bar by using Geist. |
| 15:05.25 | Kemayo | Arcaia: FuBar_KungFu is a skills addon. |
| 15:05.34 | Industrial | Crysli: yeah those 6 buttons are in fact 48 buttons |
| 15:05.43 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.55 | Ellipsis | I'm tempted to try working Geist into my setup, but haven't found a suitable hotkey :/ |
| 15:05.59 | Ellipsis | everything within reach is bound |
| 15:06.00 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 15:06.03 | Industrial | Ellipsis: mouse3 |
| 15:06.07 | Ellipsis | that's my AEs |
| 15:06.18 | Crysli | Z? |
| 15:06.18 | Ellipsis | mouse3 = RoF, shift+mouse3 = hellfire |
| 15:06.29 | *** join/#wowace rophy (n=Miranda@125.164.0.190) |
| 15:06.38 | Crysli | I use Z for Geist :> |
| 15:06.43 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 15:07.17 | Ellipsis | I rebound Z and X to non-combat stuff, but I'm thinking I might move those over to the other side of the keyboard |
| 15:07.18 | Corey | then ull have to find a new key for showing off your epics in IF |
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| 15:08.03 | durcyn | try Y. |
| 15:08.36 | MoonWitch | mouse3 = ventrilo :) |
| 15:08.56 | Crysli | Actually durcyn, Y sounds like a nice button to use. It's just within reach of my slender fingers 8D |
| 15:09.26 | MoonWitch | does t have a function? other then attack? since i never use it for attacking |
| 15:09.27 | SMELTN | good lord.. I have gotten SO used to using Caps lock to talk in vent |
| 15:09.43 | SMELTN | that I have actually downloaded a program now from Microsoft that allows me to rebind my keys |
| 15:09.52 | SMELTN | so I have right ctrl as caps lock |
| 15:09.58 | SMELTN | and caps lock as right ctrl |
| 15:10.06 | durcyn | Crysli: I'll keep my eye open for the first royalty check to come in. |
| 15:10.11 | MoonWitch | well, I use it in Day of defeat, and I don't have much time to use caps lock |
| 15:10.16 | SMELTN | same |
| 15:10.19 | SMELTN | DOD:S |
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| 15:10.32 | MoonWitch | it's actually bound to pause, but when in game pause != practical |
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| 15:10.58 | MoonWitch | SMELTN, I play source too :) |
| 15:11.20 | Crysli | Btw Industrial, didya choose that button texture on purpose? |
| 15:11.43 | MoonWitch | brb checking food yet again |
| 15:12.31 | Industrial | no, I'm using cogsbar atm because of the fancy swapping and my own inability/effortless of trying to understand state mapping. I normally use my own actionbar with zoomed buttons. |
| 15:12.46 | Industrial | lessness* |
| 15:13.08 | Crysli | Alright :> |
| 15:13.10 | Industrial | bet I can make a plugin easily tho |
| 15:13.11 | Industrial | :> |
| 15:13.14 | Ellipsis | don't you love when someone opens a trade with you and puts up some trash item |
| 15:13.19 | Ellipsis | and then you're like wtf? |
| 15:13.22 | Industrial | just clock accept |
| 15:13.23 | Ellipsis | and they go "oops sorry was destroying" |
| 15:13.24 | Industrial | click* |
| 15:13.30 | Industrial | lol |
| 15:13.40 | ScoTTie | is it a known issue with threat/omen resetting frequently on leo during demon phase ? |
| 15:14.32 | ccKep | during? |
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| 15:14.42 | ccKep | like... in the middle of it? |
| 15:14.45 | evl | sure it's not during the last 15%? |
| 15:15.20 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 15:15.29 | Industrial | hmm interesting... |
| 15:15.32 | Ellipsis | anyone know if sporeling snacks work on lock pets? o.O |
| 15:15.33 | Industrial | http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1267/wowscrnshot100107171501ay0.jpg |
| 15:16.01 | Ellipsis | interesting concept, but it's a bit unbalanced for soloing o.O |
| 15:16.17 | Industrial | unbalanced? |
| 15:16.26 | Industrial | oh a in where on screen im looking all the time? |
| 15:16.28 | Industrial | as* |
| 15:16.29 | Ellipsis | the right side of the screen is heavy |
| 15:16.29 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 15:16.44 | Ellipsis | although it's better than the left side (with a pet class at least) XD |
| 15:16.50 | Industrial | I usually have 4 bars bottomcenter with the unitframes on top - thats where I look the most |
| 15:17.05 | Ellipsis | yeah, that's how I do it (although with less of the bars and more of the looking) |
| 15:17.50 | Punkie` | Industrial! |
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| 15:18.15 | Fisker- | i r ded |
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| 15:18.29 | Chompers | i need your help, my guild has decided to focus on ssc, what's the usual progress order for bosses in there? |
| 15:18.36 | Vash` | hello, I'm getting "[2007/10/01 17:17:44-1-x1]: LibRockDB-1.0--50067:1294: Cannot access key "focustarget" in db table. You may want to use db.profile["focustarget"]" error on last wowace pitbull when copyin one profile to another |
| 15:18.41 | Fisker- | Lurker first |
| 15:18.43 | Stanzilla2 | http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot093007171822kq4.jpg |
| 15:18.44 | Vash` | in pitbull |
| 15:18.47 | Stanzilla2 | (unfinished) |
| 15:18.50 | Fisker- | Hydross if you got the gear |
| 15:18.59 | Fisker- | else Karathress or Morogrim might be more up your alley |
| 15:19.06 | mykx | Hydross if your not retarded :) |
| 15:19.06 | nevcairiel | we started with hydross, getting the gear isnt that hard, really |
| 15:19.07 | Ellipsis | Vash`: that would be an excellent thing to post on jira! |
| 15:19.26 | Vash` | Ellipsis: ok, sorry for posting here :) |
| 15:19.40 | mykx | Stanzilla2: what cast bar is that ? |
| 15:19.49 | Crysli | Looks like Quartz to me |
| 15:19.51 | SMELTN | Chompers: our guild is doing ssc now also |
| 15:19.51 | mykx | I mean it looks like quartz but not really |
| 15:19.56 | ccKep | they changed hydross aggrorange in 2.2 afaik |
| 15:20.08 | mykx | unless I have down syndrome I didn't know you could change your colours in quartz |
| 15:20.10 | Stanzilla2 | mykx: quartz |
| 15:20.14 | MoonWitch | can BT3 change keys based on friendly or enemy? |
| 15:20.15 | Chompers | which is easier out of karathress and moro Fisker-? |
| 15:20.17 | SMELTN | ccKep: Hyrdoss doesnt aggro so far |
| 15:20.33 | Fisker- | Chompers if you don't have the resistance gear for hydross |
| 15:20.35 | nevcairiel | MoonWitch: not yet |
| 15:20.41 | ccKep | the pull was one of the f*** parts of the fight |
| 15:20.48 | ccKep | (when learning him) |
| 15:20.53 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 15:20.56 | nevcairiel | if you cant kill Hydross, leave ssc alone |
| 15:21.00 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 15:21.04 | MoonWitch | mykx, Quartz - Colors :) |
| 15:21.24 | mykx | there's me sitting there like hrm the quartz colors don't fit in with my ui, doh! |
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| 15:21.39 | ccKep | depends on the number of retards in the raid @ nevcairiel ;) |
| 15:21.46 | Fisker- | korean wow site is pretty cool btw |
| 15:21.52 | Stanzilla2 | nevcairiel: will you implement the changes for BT is suggested anytime soon? |
| 15:21.56 | Stanzilla2 | is = I |
| 15:22.01 | SMELTN | yeah you need MT's with resist gear |
| 15:22.02 | sylvanaar | so does the api give you back cooldown times for consumables you dont have in your possession? |
| 15:22.03 | nevcairiel | which? |
| 15:22.05 | SMELTN | frost and nature |
| 15:22.07 | nevcairiel | post them on jira |
| 15:22.25 | Stanzilla2 | nevcairiel: like having a option to center whole bars or having barclusters |
| 15:22.26 | SMELTN | we are doing our first pull on Hydross tonight |
| 15:22.53 | ccKep | good luck then ;) |
| 15:23.06 | Chompers | we lost a tank with full frost gear, so no hydross |
| 15:23.07 | Chompers | fuck |
| 15:23.16 | Fisker- | http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldofwarcraft.co.kr%2Fnews%2Fupdate%2Funderdev%2Findex.html&langpair=ko%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8 |
| 15:23.16 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 15:23.21 | Fisker- | Anger of reach king! |
| 15:23.30 | Fisker- | Vocal great disaster - the vocal great disaster function which is had built-in inside game |
| 15:23.32 | Fisker- | :D |
| 15:24.06 | Ellipsis | lol? |
| 15:24.19 | mykx | SMELTN the good thing about hydross is if someone fucks up it's the MT/raid leader so he can hardly shout at himself |
| 15:24.19 | nevcairiel | Great disaster interface improvement |
| 15:24.22 | nevcairiel | i like that |
| 15:24.23 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:24.50 | nevcairiel | people can pull aggro on hydross, healers can be slacking and let watertomb die |
| 15:24.55 | nevcairiel | there is a lot that can go wrong |
| 15:24.56 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:25.01 | mykx | well yeah if you have downy afk locks dotting him up ;p |
| 15:25.15 | mykx | phase change coming up max dots |
| 15:25.16 | ccKep | mykx: some retard overnuking on phase shift can fuck up a try too ;) |
| 15:25.17 | Industrial | Punkie`: ! |
| 15:25.28 | Punkie` | some of your gear is broken |
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| 15:25.38 | Industrial | dude |
| 15:25.39 | Industrial | fo |
| 15:25.43 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: yes, GetItemCooldown() works properly even if it's not in your inventory |
| 15:27.37 | Fisker- | OWNT |
| 15:27.51 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla2: I'll implement it when i have the time to do it, well, centering bars is easy, that might be in soon, but the cluster thing, we'll see |
| 15:28.16 | Towbar | hydros isnt that bad if everyone knows the fight |
| 15:28.19 | Punkie` | Fisker-: lol |
| 15:28.34 | Towbar | if people want to raid SSC they should know what to do and what not to do on boss transitions |
| 15:28.42 | Chompers | morogrim it is |
| 15:28.48 | Chompers | time to read up on him i guess |
| 15:28.50 | Towbar | morogrim is just annoying |
| 15:29.04 | sylvanaar | you didnt waste it reverts if you dont user |
| 15:29.09 | Towbar | 10 mins of sinisters SnD and envenoms |
| 15:29.44 | Towbar | but a simple fight really, more of a gear check |
| 15:29.47 | Punkie` | it's quite ok |
| 15:29.48 | Fisker- | i win Punkie` |
| 15:29.49 | Fisker- | you fail |
| 15:29.53 | Towbar | stick a bear on morrowgrim and its easy |
| 15:29.55 | Punkie` | Fisker-: your UI fails |
| 15:29.57 | Punkie` | go improve it |
| 15:29.59 | Chompers | i can't stand killing vr every week |
| 15:30.06 | Towbar | lootreaver? |
| 15:30.08 | Chompers | it's an hour of trash for 3 items |
| 15:30.18 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funkydud@host81-157-50-199.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:30.27 | Punkie` | morogrims quite good for you to test your new gear or cp cycles on :) |
| 15:30.36 | Towbar | punkie: yea |
| 15:30.43 | Towbar | wanna see my morrowgrim macro? |
| 15:30.49 | Towbar | hahaha used it this week for a laugh |
| 15:31.05 | Punkie` | sure, though macros suck :P |
| 15:31.16 | Fisker- | CP?! |
| 15:31.16 | Punkie` | especially ones that attempt to do your job :P |
| 15:31.18 | Funkeh` | hello |
| 15:31.21 | Towbar | ./raid ============================== |
| 15:31.21 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (n=me@c129045.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 15:31.29 | Punkie` | combo points fiskerino |
| 15:31.29 | Towbar | ./raid TOWBAR - GRAVED!!!!!!! |
| 15:31.42 | Towbar | ./raid WARNING RAID DPS IS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED!!!! |
| 15:31.52 | Towbar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.53 | Punkie` | i bet people hate you for that macro |
| 15:31.59 | Punkie` | but |
| 15:31.59 | Towbar | MT nearly died from laughing on vent |
| 15:32.04 | Chompers | slash ignore |
| 15:32.15 | Punkie` | the best thing is that bubble from BEM |
| 15:32.17 | Towbar | macros are nice |
| 15:32.23 | *** join/#wowace Bibi` (n=Boubouil@AVelizy-151-1-3-6.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:32.24 | Fisker- | slash OH U |
| 15:32.27 | *** join/#wowace ag` (i=Andreas@0x535cbb03.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:32.28 | mykx | [16:31:44] [Towbar]: ./raid WARNING RAID DPS IS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED!!!! <<< do you spam that when you get a raid invite ? |
| 15:32.38 | Funkeh` | hey ag` |
| 15:32.40 | Towbar | pally MT healers have a simple macro for when they are graved and alt healers know when to heal |
| 15:32.42 | ag` | hi |
| 15:32.48 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis whats the first number it returns? |
| 15:32.53 | Vash` | oh valhall here :> |
| 15:32.59 | Towbar | mykx: it was a joke in raid chat on morrowgrim |
| 15:33.08 | Towbar | yes valhall :/ |
| 15:33.10 | Towbar | hmm |
| 15:33.22 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: start time of the CD |
| 15:33.23 | Towbar | you know the guild? |
| 15:33.42 | Vash` | ofc, i'm on your server, :) |
| 15:33.47 | [Ammo] | ag`: hullo |
| 15:33.49 | Towbar | ahhh are you the semper dude? |
| 15:33.51 | sylvanaar | bleh |
| 15:33.58 | Vash` | niup |
| 15:34.00 | ag` | [Ammo], hi |
| 15:34.13 | Vash` | i think u can't remember me ;P |
| 15:34.13 | ag` | I can do some testing now |
| 15:34.17 | ag` | I have expo |
| 15:34.21 | CIA-12 | 03ulic * r50507 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Dalliah.lua Skyriss.lua): LittleWigs: more deDE additions |
| 15:34.28 | Punkie` | ag`: ammo said on vent to me that you are his idol |
| 15:34.33 | Punkie` | and he loves you |
| 15:34.35 | Towbar | i was in here drunk one night and have vague memories of talking to someone from the server, but I thought he was in semper |
| 15:34.45 | Trae | If I move my char from PvP to PvE server, will I be allowed to move back to PvP server later on? or am I forever stuck on PvE? (this assumes I'm L70) |
| 15:34.52 | Towbar | no |
| 15:35.01 | Towbar | no you cannot move back |
| 15:35.09 | Trae | Towbar, suckage |
| 15:35.17 | Towbar | I did it to join my guild |
| 15:35.28 | ag` | Punkie`, you're boon too? |
| 15:35.30 | Towbar | best decission I ever made, the ppl on PvE servers are so much more relaxxed |
| 15:35.32 | Punkie` | yep |
| 15:35.41 | Stanzilla2 | nevcairiel: made a jira http://jira.wowace.com/browse/BT-11 |
| 15:35.49 | Towbar | and you dont get nabstep ambushed after solo killing 4 mobs |
| 15:35.50 | Trae | I need to get on a more active server |
| 15:35.50 | Trae | mines freaking DEAD |
| 15:35.50 | Trae | there is NO ONE there |
| 15:35.50 | Trae | Maiev sucks buttocks |
| 15:35.53 | [Ammo] | ag`: I think I found the issue though |
| 15:35.56 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla: have a cookie (::) |
| 15:36.07 | ag` | [Ammo], love |
| 15:36.10 | ag` | send me details |
| 15:36.21 | [Ammo] | ag`: it's not in agUF |
| 15:36.21 | Punkie` | lol |
| 15:36.22 | Towbar | vash: who are you on the server? |
| 15:36.28 | Stanzilla2 | Ellipsis: thx :D |
| 15:36.30 | [Ammo] | let me commit the fix I think |
| 15:36.32 | ag` | [Ammo], what is it? |
| 15:36.39 | ag` | Ace2? Or some other addon? |
| 15:36.49 | Vash` | Brummbär and sometimes Erech |
| 15:36.57 | Towbar | hmm |
| 15:37.47 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (i=evolve@155.147-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 15:37.52 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50508 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: PallyPower: bucket roster update event to prevent excessive processing entering AV for instance. |
| 15:38.06 | [Ammo] | ^--- |
| 15:38.10 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 15:38.14 | Fisker- | you have a pally? |
| 15:38.21 | Towbar | has anyone here killed kael'thas this week? |
| 15:38.21 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak bubblehearth |
| 15:38.22 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Bubblehearth, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (46/5/10). 7027 HP; 8823 Mana; 175 mana regen; 73 mp5; 11657 Armour; 75.300 Melee DPS; 2.93% melee crit; 77 spell crit; 227 +spell dmg; 1197 +heal; 3.73% dodge; 4.92% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1090 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywss62 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okrqu ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 10:22:01 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:38.26 | Punkie` | yeah he has a lucky pally |
| 15:38.32 | [Ammo] | a very lucky paladin |
| 15:38.39 | [Ammo] | has 500 dice rating |
| 15:38.47 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:38.59 | Punkie` | Fisker-: his pala's UI sucks as hard as yours |
| 15:39.02 | ccKep | Towbar: yesterday, yes |
| 15:39.11 | Towbar | is the fight working ok? |
| 15:39.21 | Towbar | we spent this week so far killing everything but him |
| 15:39.26 | ccKep | except that weapon-health-bug thingie, yes |
| 15:39.28 | Towbar | jsut kael left now |
| 15:39.33 | Towbar | what bug? |
| 15:39.50 | Fisker- | my pala ui is awesome Punkie` |
| 15:39.50 | cncfanatics | weapons have double hp |
| 15:39.52 | ccKep | if kael rezzes the advisors the health of any remaining weapons is doubled |
| 15:39.56 | Towbar | meh |
| 15:40.05 | cncfanatics | ccKep; s/if/when/ |
| 15:40.08 | Towbar | ahhh |
| 15:40.10 | ccKep | yayay |
| 15:40.20 | Towbar | so we have to nuke the hell out of them all pre phase 4? |
| 15:40.23 | Towbar | phase3* |
| 15:40.27 | Industrial | Ellipsis: eenteresting http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1866/wowscrnshot100107173904dc7.jpg |
| 15:40.28 | ccKep | no |
| 15:40.48 | ccKep | you just have to deal with 1-2 weapons in phase3 together with the advisors |
| 15:41.04 | Towbar | we normally have them all dead but axe |
| 15:41.06 | Industrial | jpg compressions screws the unitframe border and padding up tho, theres a 1px border and padding. |
| 15:41.17 | ccKep | we kill shield last |
| 15:41.27 | ag` | [Ammo], you don't get lockups anymore? |
| 15:41.31 | ccKep | we kill shield have shield down at 20%.... it has 62k health in phase2 |
| 15:41.34 | ag` | I knew it was fixed:) |
| 15:41.37 | [Ammo] | ag`: not on my lock, but I got em on my pally |
| 15:41.42 | [Ammo] | got me thinking |
| 15:41.42 | Towbar | we have the shield in teh aoe to give to whats his face hunter looking dude tank incase he gets gazed |
| 15:41.44 | Fisker- | wrumm wrumm |
| 15:41.45 | ccKep | it suddenly has 124k (still 20%) after the advisor rezz then |
| 15:41.48 | ag` | great |
| 15:41.48 | [Ammo] | and I think that commit should fix it |
| 15:41.51 | Fisker- | ag` sucks :( |
| 15:41.53 | ag` | you made me worried there |
| 15:41.58 | ag` | Fisker-, your mom |
| 15:42.01 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 15:42.02 | Towbar | telonicus |
| 15:42.05 | [Ammo] | if it doesn't fix it I'll complain some more |
| 15:42.15 | Towbar | so he can just pop the shield if he gets gazed |
| 15:42.24 | Ellipsis | Industrial: you...you... |
| 15:42.30 | Ellipsis | you...MOVED YOUR MINIMAP?! |
| 15:42.35 | Towbar | well 60k doesnt take long to burn down anyway |
| 15:42.37 | Industrial | yes, finally :D |
| 15:42.37 | durcyn | ccKep: yeah, they changed it so the advisors have half health, then there's a double-hp buff in p3 |
| 15:42.46 | ccKep | yep |
| 15:42.49 | CIA-12 | 03prudence * r50509 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Modules/Damage.lua): Assessment: Update some French translation |
| 15:43.06 | Towbar | so the weapons arrive with half HP? |
| 15:43.11 | ccKep | no |
| 15:43.18 | ccKep | normal hp and get doubled when p3 begins |
| 15:43.28 | Towbar | ok, cool |
| 15:43.35 | Towbar | shouldnt be too much of a problem then |
| 15:43.58 | Ellipsis | Industrial: I didn't think you had it in you...looks pretty good though, assuming you don't plan to play a pet class most of the time :P |
| 15:44.14 | Towbar | 16:43:25 [W To] <Towbar>: 09/21/07 11:02:10, Your Sinister Strike crits Kael'thas Sunstrider for 2980. |
| 15:44.18 | Towbar | love that fight for dmg :) |
| 15:44.22 | Industrial | lol why, whats different about playing a pet class? |
| 15:44.23 | durcyn | it's only a problem if you save the shield for last, really, since you'd end up with it or an advisor living too long into p4 |
| 15:44.24 | ccKep | though we didn't see a single phoenix in p5 yesterday |
| 15:44.26 | Industrial | im playing hunter right now |
| 15:44.28 | Ellipsis | Industrial: pets park on your left |
| 15:44.41 | Industrial | so :D? |
| 15:44.47 | Ellipsis | as a lock I'm always very sensitive about putting anything right where my pet sits |
| 15:45.04 | Ellipsis | I guess for hunters it's not such a big issue because their pets mostly melee, but I feel better knowing I can see what my pet is doing |
| 15:45.11 | Industrial | but its either there or attacking right? |
| 15:45.15 | Crysli | I'd suggest shrinking the pet frame a bit. |
| 15:45.18 | Industrial | ah ok |
| 15:45.34 | Funkeh` | Industrial: Man you suck at fortress |
| 15:45.36 | Ellipsis | well, my imp will stay there when he starts attacking :P |
| 15:45.50 | Ellipsis | so if I hit the wrong key and made him cast when I didn't want him to be attacking, I'd notice and cancel it |
| 15:45.57 | durcyn | why would you attack with an imp in the first place |
| 15:46.01 | Ellipsis | exactly |
| 15:46.08 | RoflesIBeAFK | !c eu ghostlands placitum |
| 15:46.11 | ThraeBot | RoflesIBeAFK: Placitum, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (43/18/0). 7017 HP; 9278 Mana; 189 mana regen; 51 mp5; 7452 Armour; 79.900 Melee DPS; 4.71% melee crit; 46 spell crit; 325 +spell dmg; 993 +heal; 5.01% dodge; 5.16% block; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 856 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/285ytk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33epyj ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:46:17 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:46.17 | ccKep | another q: did akama's healthpool receive a buff in 2.2? |
| 15:46.35 | Marli | !c eu Stormscale Marli |
| 15:46.37 | ThraeBot | Marli: Marli, Level 70 Draenei Paladin (41/20/0). 8767 HP; 9723 Mana; 191 mana regen; 90 mp5; 14360 Armour; 75.800 Melee DPS; 4.33% melee crit; 95 spell crit; 164 +spell dmg; 1545 +heal; 4.33% dodge; 5.00% block; 127 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 1082 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25rfb5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ryoet ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:46:44 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:46.38 | durcyn | ccKep: no |
| 15:46.46 | Marli | 1082 Flex |
| 15:46.52 | Marli | !c eu Outland Vandra |
| 15:46.55 | *** join/#wowace rophy (n=Miranda@125.164.2.98) |
| 15:46.55 | ThraeBot | Marli: Vandra, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (13/0/48). 6461 HP; 7005 Mana; 129 mana regen; 125 spell crit; 59 spell hit; 795 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (974); 230 shadow dmg (1025); 5.06% dodge; 33 resilience;[[ TBR: 863 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2z6vlj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xmjyk ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:47:01 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:46.55 | ccKep | hm, guess our dps finally recognizes how the encounter works then |
| 15:47.01 | Marli | 863 wut |
| 15:47.05 | Marli | fuck dis ilevel bs |
| 15:47.06 | Industrial | Funkeh`: i kicked your butt rofl |
| 15:47.20 | ccKep | sounds stupid but: we hardly had enough dps for phase2 on our kills until this week |
| 15:47.41 | RoflesIBeAFK | !c eu ghostlands aeyer |
| 15:47.42 | Funkeh` | Industrial: screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 15:47.44 | ThraeBot | RoflesIBeAFK: Aeyer, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (40/0/21). 7637 HP; 10938 Mana; 222 mana regen; 122 mp5; 10503 Armour; 74.300 Melee DPS; 8.81% melee crit; 21 spell crit; 192 +spell dmg; 1705 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 494 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23d7dr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vmuzq ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:47:50 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:47.54 | *** join/#wowace Thirsteh (n=thirsteh@linuxfordummies/Thirsteh) |
| 15:47.57 | Towbar | wanna see a pally? |
| 15:47.59 | ccKep | this week shade died when akama had 64% health left ^.^ |
| 15:48.08 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub caladun |
| 15:48.10 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Caladun, Level 70 Human Paladin (45/16/0). 8917 HP; 10713 Mana; 269 mana regen; 125 mp5; 17387 Armour; 74.700 Melee DPS; 4.21% melee crit; 158 spell crit; 208 +spell dmg; 2073 +heal; 4.01% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 1008 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xa3b7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sjqg6 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:48:16 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:48.34 | Towbar | 1.75 sec 8k crit holy lights <3 |
| 15:48.37 | RoflesIBeAFK | Nice 2heal ;D |
| 15:48.41 | RoflesIBeAFK | +* |
| 15:48.48 | RoflesIBeAFK | is it yours? |
| 15:48.52 | sylvanaar | actually I need a warlock addon too - which one is most up to date? |
| 15:48.52 | Industrial | Funkeh`: ill do it again. |
| 15:48.54 | Towbar | nope one in our guild |
| 15:48.57 | Industrial | any day, tbh |
| 15:49.16 | RoflesIBeAFK | Hehehe, nice |
| 15:49.22 | durcyn | sylvanaar: most of them are total crap tbh, what features do you need? |
| 15:49.23 | RoflesIBeAFK | what guild? |
| 15:49.30 | Industrial | Funkeh`: find someone else ill 2v1 |
| 15:49.39 | Industrial | =D |
| 15:49.47 | Killmore2 | !c US ysera killmore |
| 15:49.50 | Towbar | rofles: me? |
| 15:49.50 | ThraeBot | Killmore2: Killmore, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (23/38/0). 7931 HP; 10200 Mana; 431 mana regen; 193 mp5; 99 +spell dmg; 1948 +heal; 6.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 453 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28gmhw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33qcmv ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:49:56 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:49.52 | sylvanaar | um, what shardtracker used to do |
| 15:50.00 | sylvanaar | that stuff |
| 15:50.07 | dreamss | track soulshards? |
| 15:50.11 | Ellipsis | eeShards for autodestroy/shardcount |
| 15:50.11 | sylvanaar | no |
| 15:50.28 | *** join/#wowace Marli (n=fuckmez@host86-128-11-24.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:50.30 | Ellipsis | anything else is macros for me (other than the obvious SS issue which I won't bring up again) |
| 15:50.30 | Funkeh` | Industrial: With hacks off? |
| 15:50.31 | durcyn | shardace or necronomicon, depending on how much time you have to configure it |
| 15:50.45 | Industrial | lol. |
| 15:50.49 | sylvanaar | it had conjuring, announcing, summoning (people/demons) |
| 15:50.51 | Industrial | want me to make a demo of it too? |
| 15:50.52 | durcyn | though i just use one action bar for my stones/summons |
| 15:50.55 | Hjalte | sylvanaar, i like [Ammo]s warlock addon, Necronomicon2. |
| 15:51.02 | Industrial | so you can replay how I pwn :D? |
| 15:51.09 | durcyn | announcement addons make me wince |
| 15:51.16 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 15:51.28 | Ellipsis | especially when they're so "cute" the text is like three miles long and repeats itself every second or third time |
| 15:51.55 | ccKep | currently in the process of attuning 2 dps shaman (enh & ele).. looking forward to akama next week ^.^ |
| 15:52.03 | durcyn | Forte is particularly stupid about it.. "My Fear on Some Mob You Don't Care About will expire in 3 seconds, holy shitballs batman!" |
| 15:52.07 | Marli | :DDDDD SHEEEPING BIG AWESOME MONSTER :DDDDDD |
| 15:52.08 | Corey | thats the real reason for rphelper annoy everyone around you so much they let you play alone |
| 15:52.47 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r50510 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/WorldPvP.en.lua: |
| 15:52.47 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 15:52.47 | CIA-12 | - Missing Halaa recipe |
| 15:52.59 | uzaR000 | !c eu magtheridon awake |
| 15:53.01 | ThraeBot | uzaR000: Awake, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (50/11/0). 8727 HP; 10278 Mana; 198 mana regen; 104 mp5; 17429 Armour; 76.700 Melee DPS; 4.05% melee crit; 207 spell crit; 177 +spell dmg; 2392 +heal; 4.05% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 1111 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqbx8w ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34h39a ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:53:07 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:53.15 | Towbar | awake is sick |
| 15:53.47 | ccKep | nerf pallys |
| 15:54.01 | uzaR000 | But.. nihilum is unfair |
| 15:54.09 | uzaR000 | its not natural to have that kind of gear |
| 15:54.16 | Towbar | and a little *too* lucky when it comes to drops |
| 15:54.23 | Towbar | they dont get to nuke much.. |
| 15:54.24 | ccKep | 2392 +heal unbuffed.. sick |
| 15:54.31 | Josh_Borke | holy shit, 2392 +hdeal?! |
| 15:54.32 | CIA-12 | 03evilelvis * r50511 10eeShards/core.lua: eeShards: updated french translation |
| 15:54.32 | kenlyric | no gem in gloves? stone him. |
| 15:54.41 | ccKep | epic gems |
| 15:54.43 | *** join/#wowace YourMomsHero (n=cirish@74.202.196.195) |
| 15:54.44 | kenlyric | not precisely unbuffed. |
| 15:54.44 | ccKep | armory doesn't display them |
| 15:54.54 | Towbar | yea thats t6 for ya, our 4/5 t5 pallys are mostly about 2100 |
| 15:54.55 | Industrial | Funkeh`: well :D? |
| 15:55.04 | ccKep | well, crusader aura, mounted, honorless target and a 50% casttime increase |
| 15:55.13 | ccKep | I'd say unbuffed, regarding +heal |
| 15:55.18 | uzaR000 | !c eu magtheridon tharghan |
| 15:55.18 | Towbar | agree |
| 15:55.20 | ThraeBot | uzaR000: Tharghan, Level 70 Undead Priest (20/41/0). 8671 HP; 10605 Mana; 433 mana regen; 206 mp5; 94 +spell dmg; 2088 +heal; 5.50% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 442 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yt2cyk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2oc26j ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:55:26 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:55.21 | kenlyric | a'dal's song of battle |
| 15:55.26 | kenlyric | 5% healing increase. |
| 15:55.30 | uzaR000 | Bah, noob.. only 2088 |
| 15:55.30 | Funkeh` | Industrial: No, u hax |
| 15:55.32 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r50512 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 15:55.32 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 15:55.32 | CIA-12 | - Zul Aman |
| 15:55.45 | Towbar | yea but 206 mp5 is nice |
| 15:55.54 | uzaR000 | true ;D |
| 15:55.55 | Towbar | mp5 is awesome for priests, i have a SP |
| 15:55.58 | Ellipsis | Funkeh` is a chickennnnn |
| 15:56.07 | Marli | Shadowdmg IS mp5 |
| 15:56.10 | Marli | Fuck mp5 the actual stat |
| 15:56.12 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: How about you come also? |
| 15:56.23 | uzaR000 | i love to group with SP with my ele shaman |
| 15:56.28 | Industrial | Funkeh`: dude I don't. you cant even hack and win in tfc, as you need to move your mouse to mouve around (bunnyhop) |
| 15:56.29 | Towbar | our hunters and mages get SP |
| 15:56.33 | uzaR000 | i can go for like.. 2-3 times longer without oom |
| 15:56.44 | Towbar | our one holy priest in raids has a 505 chance of a shammy thats about it |
| 15:56.52 | Crysli | http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8823/january002xa6.jpg - a |
| 15:56.55 | Towbar | 50-50 |
| 15:56.56 | Industrial | yes! Ellipsis + Funkeh` vs Industrial |
| 15:57.01 | Industrial | gogo :D I have a server |
| 15:57.06 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:57.07 | ccKep | !c eu blackhand déie |
| 15:57.07 | ThraeBot | ccKep: déie is not the character you are looking for! |
| 15:57.10 | Industrial | well im getting rcon soon |
| 15:57.11 | ccKep | nay ;) |
| 15:57.17 | Industrial | I hope |
| 15:57.18 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:57.24 | Crysli | ^ kindof stole the layout from Boomhoof |
| 15:57.30 | ccKep | !c eu blackhand D%C3%A9ie |
| 15:57.31 | ThraeBot | ccKep: D%C3%A9ie is not the character you are looking for! |
| 15:57.33 | ccKep | :( |
| 15:57.34 | Towbar | lol |
| 15:57.36 | ccKep | used to work |
| 15:57.56 | uzaR000 | !c eu magtheridon johnnyr |
| 15:57.58 | Industrial | Ellipsis: do you have hl2? fortress-forever.com gogo :D |
| 15:57.58 | ThraeBot | uzaR000: Johnnyr, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (41/20/0). 8427 HP; 10203 Mana; 246 mana regen; 164 mp5; 16674 Armour; 72.400 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 303 spell crit; 175 +spell dmg; 2255 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 890 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2egz2d ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/368hn8 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:58:04 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:58.11 | Towbar | and the only one in guild that can beat me on a single target dps fight maybe: |
| 15:58.11 | uzaR000 | yay 2255 |
| 15:58.14 | Ellipsis | Industrial: yarly |
| 15:58.20 | Funkeh` | Industrial: I think you need some tranq |
| 15:58.20 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub leto |
| 15:58.22 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Leto, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (6/44/11). 9569 HP; 8369 Mana; 104 mana regen; 178 spell crit; 136 spell hit; 954 +spell dmg; 183 frost dmg (1137); 285 shadow dmg (1239); 4.47% dodge; 16 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1074 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hjm5x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ydysj ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:58:29 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:58.28 | Industrial | 130.89.175.53:27035 |
| 15:58.33 | Industrial | Funkeh`: see you there |
| 15:58.49 | Towbar | 1239 shadow dmg - ouch |
| 15:58.53 | Trae | ccKep, heh what? |
| 15:59.05 | Towbar | his biggest prob in raids is when to blow soul shatter |
| 15:59.08 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:59.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 15:59.10 | ccKep | Trae: nothing ;) |
| 15:59.13 | ccKep | typo |
| 15:59.17 | Stanzilla2 | !c magtheridon muqq |
| 15:59.24 | Stanzilla2 | !c eu magtheridon muqq |
| 15:59.26 | ThraeBot | Stanzilla2: Muqq, Level 70 Undead Priest (12/0/49). 9241 HP; 9465 Mana; 201 mana regen; 48 mp5; 284 spell crit; 193 spell hit; 1195 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1249); 127 shadow dmg (1322); 5.14% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 843 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cvvqo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c7g4n ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 11:59:32 2007 EST ]] |
| 15:59.38 | Towbar | thats one sick SP |
| 15:59.42 | Stanzilla2 | this guy is imba |
| 15:59.52 | ccKep | ThraeBot = racist |
| 15:59.54 | ccKep | :( |
| 15:59.54 | Towbar | 800-900 mind flay ticks? |
| 15:59.57 | the-golem | !c us drak'thul mistblade |
| 16:00.00 | ThraeBot | the-golem: Mistblade, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (10/0/51). 13854 HP; 14953 Armour; 832 AP; 157.200 Melee DPS; 5.87% melee crit; 343 defense; 19.05% dodge; 24.21% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1278 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrruer ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/349fm9 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 12:00:06 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:00.06 | Stanzilla2 | Towbar: up to 1000 |
| 16:00.09 | the-golem | ... |
| 16:00.17 | Towbar | scarey |
| 16:00.28 | Marli | 1322 is nothing |
| 16:00.28 | the-golem | why doesnt tha factor in my +defense rating |
| 16:00.34 | Towbar | think our MT owns that warrior |
| 16:00.40 | Marli | My shadowpriest has 1025 dmg without raiding |
| 16:00.51 | Towbar | but he is fury atm for world bosses VR alar mag and gruuls yesterday |
| 16:00.56 | Marli | and i dont even have the badges trinket :s |
| 16:01.09 | Stanzilla2 | Marli: you can get any higher |
| 16:01.20 | Stanzilla2 | cant |
| 16:01.26 | Stanzilla2 | he got the best gear in game |
| 16:01.29 | Marli | Uhh |
| 16:01.42 | the-golem | Towbar: yeah idc who owns who |
| 16:02.19 | Crysli | I'll try sneaking the link in again - http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8823/january002xa6.jpg |
| 16:02.28 | Towbar | !c eu azjol-nerub dakeyras |
| 16:02.30 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Dakeyras, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (11/5/45). 15054 HP; 16403 Armour; 708 AP; 162.900 Melee DPS; 13.50% melee crit; 59 melee hit; 395 defense; 21.94% dodge; 36.78% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1830 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bf85o ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3drcbv ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 12:02:36 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:02.32 | Towbar | our OT |
| 16:02.51 | Towbar | wtf gear is he wearing |
| 16:03.05 | Towbar | hmm |
| 16:03.17 | Towbar | xeph has 530 ish def |
| 16:03.26 | Towbar | but fury atm |
| 16:04.04 | Towbar | !c eu azjol-nerub teryn |
| 16:04.06 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Teryn, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/49/11). 12094 HP; 7040 Mana; 134 mana regen; 7310 Armour; 760 AP; 136.900 Melee DPS; 17.40% melee crit; 18 melee hit; 155 defense; 37.72% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 512 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/275x4f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32en9e ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 12:04:12 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:04.08 | Towbar | unkillable bear :) |
| 16:04.13 | Towbar | 35 armor in bear form |
| 16:04.28 | Funkeh` | 35k? |
| 16:04.30 | Towbar | yea |
| 16:04.35 | *** join/#wowace Gale (n=Gale212@85-211-246-87.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 16:04.38 | Towbar | swundered he is still capped |
| 16:04.41 | Towbar | sundered* |
| 16:05.00 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-157-99-5.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 16:05.51 | ccKep | woot |
| 16:06.01 | ccKep | !c eu Blackhand Déie |
| 16:06.02 | ThraeBot | ccKep: Déie, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/5/56). 7919 HP; 10230 Mana; 273 mana regen; 174 mp5; 11179 Armour; 4.11% melee crit; 17 spell crit; 141 +spell dmg; 2132 +heal; 4.11% dodge; 5.00% block; 21 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 897 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yovyjl ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ycjr3 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 12:05:50 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:06.09 | *** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanmor@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:06.15 | Towbar | <3 resto shamyms |
| 16:06.24 | Towbar | seriously, nothing else comes close on raid healing |
| 16:06.35 | ccKep | chain heal rockz ^.^ |
| 16:06.44 | Towbar | overpowered, i hope they never nerf it |
| 16:06.58 | Gngsk | yes, because all raids need less healing |
| 16:07.02 | Gngsk | we can all agree on that |
| 16:07.12 | dreamss | sucked they nerfed healing way |
| 16:07.18 | ccKep | yeah |
| 16:07.20 | dreamss | i was loving the 300 r1 heals |
| 16:07.25 | ccKep | I was like "WTF?!" on patch day :( |
| 16:07.29 | Towbar | :( |
| 16:07.39 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50513 10SpellReminder/ (. SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc embeds.xml): |
| 16:07.39 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 16:07.39 | CIA-12 | - Added option: bar texture |
| 16:07.55 | *** join/#wowace oO|Casey|Oo (n=Casey@dslb-084-058-098-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:07.57 | oO|Casey|Oo | hi |
| 16:07.59 | ccKep | totem of the maelstrom + HW1 = 800 healing for 0 mana |
| 16:08.10 | dreamss | 800 |
| 16:08.12 | dreamss | ?! |
| 16:08.17 | Towbar | and the shammy t5 trinket is awesome |
| 16:08.18 | ccKep | crit |
| 16:08.18 | ccKep | ;) |
| 16:08.26 | ccKep | NEVER dropped for us :(( |
| 16:08.28 | Towbar | I play a resto shammy in raids sometimes, that thing procs all the time |
| 16:08.39 | dreamss | whats the trinket? |
| 16:08.39 | Towbar | seriously i cant go oom on VR fight |
| 16:08.42 | ccKep | and now we only do ssc / tk when attuning new folsk |
| 16:08.48 | Towbar | rank 3 chain heal spam the whole fight |
| 16:09.01 | dreamss | hehe no shit |
| 16:09.05 | oO|Casey|Oo | i have a short question. is there an ace addon to move frames around? |
| 16:09.14 | durcyn | Visor. |
| 16:09.21 | ccKep | 550 rank1 heals noncrit, 750 - 900 crit |
| 16:09.28 | Towbar | will that let me not try to need an item when I want to evis? |
| 16:09.32 | dreamss | i use totem of the mael and trinket that drops of shade |
| 16:09.35 | dreamss | its pretty cool |
| 16:09.36 | Towbar | ie move the need or greed frame |
| 16:09.38 | ccKep | good for keeping healing way and ancestral fortitude up |
| 16:09.41 | oO|Casey|Oo | especialy the standard blizzard frames like the pvp objects oder error messages |
| 16:10.39 | Towbar | change* |
| 16:10.56 | Crysli | Towbar - you could have a look at XLoot and XLootGroup. |
| 16:10.57 | ccKep | heroic cloak/trinket, blade edge mountain's quest neck, black morass trinket :o |
| 16:11.03 | Towbar | i use xloot |
| 16:11.09 | Towbar | havnt tried xllotgrp |
| 16:11.14 | Towbar | wtb new fingers |
| 16:11.24 | Towbar | xlootgrp |
| 16:11.28 | *** join/#wowace [AoC]Camci (i=Camci@c-d633e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 16:11.39 | oO|Casey|Oo | thx durcyn i will try it |
| 16:11.42 | ccKep | looking forward to that new random drop healing cloak in hyjal / BT |
| 16:12.23 | Towbar | havn't seen it |
| 16:12.24 | dreamss | my shaman is pretty epiced out on healing gear |
| 16:12.29 | Killmore2 | ccKep: sick cloak :\ |
| 16:12.30 | dreamss | and my guild lost all their raiders |
| 16:12.31 | dreamss | hehe |
| 16:12.54 | dreamss | (tankfully i gathered an enhas set and ele set) :P |
| 16:13.05 | Towbar | !c EU azjol-nerub frostitute |
| 16:13.08 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Frostitute, Level 30 Human Mage (21/0/0). 1040 HP; 2133 Mana; 81 mana regen; 12 mp5; 4.56% dodge;[[ TBR: 119 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c2p6z ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mmtou ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 12:13:14 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:13.14 | Towbar | typical name choice for an alt by him |
| 16:13.27 | Killmore2 | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/september/shroudfinalstand.jpg |
| 16:13.28 | Killmore2 | wtb |
| 16:13.37 | ccKep | pretty much every other healer in my guild will get that before me :( |
| 16:13.47 | Towbar | that cloak is imba |
| 16:13.48 | CIA-12 | 03gamefaq * r50514 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: Another deDE Update |
| 16:14.15 | Killmore2 | I loot the vashj mace yesterday, still first in DKP.. I will grab this cloak soon :P |
| 16:14.34 | ccKep | http://tier6.concilium-wow.de/viewmember.php?s=&name=D%E9ie got like every shaman specific drop of the first bosses, now missing DKP for the cool stuff :O |
| 16:14.47 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 16:15.24 | oO|Casey|Oo | !c EU Madmortem Fayara |
| 16:15.27 | ThraeBot | oO|Casey|Oo: Fayara, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (11/0/50). 6601 HP; 7860 Mana; 135 mana regen; 187 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 964 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1018); 138 shadow dmg (1102); 6.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 792 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/247ql5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2whgq4 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 12:15:33 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:15.27 | Towbar | we had to nuke the belt of one hundred deaths again because the top dkp rogue wants to keep his top dkp spot :( |
| 16:15.33 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: wtf makes flexbar special that cyC needs it optdeped? l2plugin |
| 16:15.59 | dreamss | Towbar noone else wanted it? |
| 16:16.15 | Towbar | all our rogues but one have it already |
| 16:16.21 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-157-99-5.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 16:16.22 | dreamss | what a fag |
| 16:16.26 | Towbar | and if he got it he would not be top dkp an7ymore |
| 16:16.35 | Towbar | thats almsot exactly what i told him |
| 16:16.42 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, it does |
| 16:16.43 | Towbar | get rid of that gruul belt you nab |
| 16:16.46 | cncfanatics | and why do you care ? |
| 16:16.54 | cncfanatics | just got to make sure it loads after flexbar so it can plug it |
| 16:16.55 | Towbar | the vashj belt was more of an upgrade for him than t5 legs where |
| 16:17.02 | Towbar | why do i care>? |
| 16:17.09 | *** join/#wowace TheHermit` (n=TheHermi@141.154.178.4) |
| 16:17.13 | dreamss | heh |
| 16:17.18 | ccKep | guess he's 2nd on dkp ;) |
| 16:17.21 | dreamss | thats wht i hate raiding |
| 16:17.23 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@dhcp27.public.dc.umich.edu) |
| 16:17.24 | dreamss | dkp politics |
| 16:17.38 | Towbar | because benificial loot got nuked cause someone wanted to keep dkp to cock block someone |
| 16:17.41 | dreamss | AND hes a rogue :P |
| 16:17.44 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: i bet you could easily work around that issues with some more intelligent code, and why do i care .. i believe in programming ethics |
| 16:17.58 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, I would if the cyCircled code wasn't crap in the first place |
| 16:18.00 | Towbar | yea, those pesky rogues |
| 16:18.02 | cncfanatics | OnEnable can't be replaced |
| 16:18.02 | Towbar | pfft |
| 16:18.03 | xyu | OMGOGOGJOSDJFOIS autobar keeps making me drink shit i dont want to . >< |
| 16:18.05 | xyu | lol |
| 16:18.10 | cncfanatics | so I had to use OnInitialize and add an optDep |
| 16:18.12 | xyu | i wish popups would just stay after i click |
| 16:18.14 | Towbar | especially well geared ones that own ya :) |
| 16:18.22 | cncfanatics | (cyCircled does weird if I use OnEnable in my plugin) |
| 16:18.33 | Towbar | !c eu azjol-nerub towbar |
| 16:18.35 | ThraeBot | Towbar: Towbar, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (19/42/0). 11084 HP; +10 Energy; 1230 AP; 313.100 Melee DPS; 27.70% melee crit; 93 melee hit; 25.41% dodge; 367 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1156 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytuftp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p76yo ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 12:18:42 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:18.39 | Towbar | :) |
| 16:18.45 | cncfanatics | go blame whoever made it that I couldn't use OnEnable, nevcairiel |
| 16:18.56 | Towbar | unbuffed ofc |
| 16:19.23 | ccKep | !c eu blackhand Lillith |
| 16:19.26 | ThraeBot | ccKep: Lillith, Level 70 Human Rogue (20/41/0). 9704 HP; 3663 Armour; 1962 AP; 445.500 Melee DPS; 29.34% melee crit; 288 melee hit; 31.16% dodge; 12 resilience;[[ TBR: 1031 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cmr5t ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37whas ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 12:19:32 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:19.41 | Towbar | that your pve gear? |
| 16:19.49 | nevcairiel | every bug can be worked out in your code, without touching the librarys .. tbh |
| 16:19.50 | ccKep | not mine, guild mates |
| 16:19.50 | Towbar | fists? |
| 16:19.55 | ccKep | << resto shaman |
| 16:19.59 | ccKep | swords |
| 16:20.07 | Towbar | nice crit |
| 16:20.11 | Towbar | for swords |
| 16:20.30 | Corey | cncfanatics what happened to the GUI :( |
| 16:20.36 | ccKep | he has fel strength elixir in armory though |
| 16:20.51 | cncfanatics | Corey, none for now, doing features first :) |
| 16:20.52 | Towbar | and fort |
| 16:20.54 | *** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=chatzill@host-83-166-25-145.serva.net) |
| 16:21.06 | ccKep | yeah, I meant dps-wise ;) |
| 16:21.09 | sb | Funkeh`: is bigwigs solarian already changed for new abilities? |
| 16:21.22 | Funkeh` | sb: Yes |
| 16:21.28 | sb | yes? hm |
| 16:21.35 | Towbar | waiting for armory to updated my pve gear |
| 16:22.00 | ccKep | !c eu blackhand salaxea |
| 16:22.02 | ThraeBot | ccKep: Salaxea, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (19/42/0). 8474 HP; 3699 Armour; 1816 AP; 396.700 Melee DPS; 27.31% melee crit; 290 melee hit; 31.21% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2066 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dmo7t ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38wecs ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 12:22:08 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:22.05 | Towbar | 5 free weapon skill as human |
| 16:22.15 | Towbar | thats 3% free hit on bosses |
| 16:22.18 | NeoTron | I wonder if we'll see some useful weapons in the <l60 range now |
| 16:22.21 | NeoTron | "Yes, we're making updates to quite a few items for both instances and quests below level 60 in patch 2.3." |
| 16:22.27 | *** join/#wowace PProvost (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 16:22.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 16:22.40 | evl | ccKep: Why imp evisc over vile |
| 16:22.57 | ccKep | thats not me.. I know shit about rogues |
| 16:23.01 | sb | Funkeh`: it is still called 'wrath of the astromancer'? |
| 16:23.19 | Funkeh` | sb: yes |
| 16:23.23 | Funkeh` | sb: why? |
| 16:23.25 | sb | oh okay |
| 16:23.35 | sb | thought it was renamed to light of the astromancer |
| 16:23.51 | Towbar | the new solarian fight is a joke |
| 16:24.01 | sb | ah okay |
| 16:24.03 | sb | http://thottbot.com/s42783 |
| 16:24.03 | sb | :) |
| 16:24.09 | Towbar | i dont use thott |
| 16:24.12 | Towbar | full of kids |
| 16:24.22 | sb | i dont care about the comments :) |
| 16:24.27 | Towbar | wowhead and elitestjerks are my only points of reference i trust these days |
| 16:24.42 | sb | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42787 |
| 16:24.44 | sb | meh :) |
| 16:25.07 | Funkeh` | sb: BigWigs will pop up the proximity scanner when you are afflicted |
| 16:25.33 | Towbar | just get away from whoever has the bomb fast and its tank spank and aoe adds |
| 16:25.50 | Towbar | dont need 2 arc res tanks anymore either |
| 16:25.57 | sb | yup |
| 16:25.59 | Towbar | pallys with /assist solarion |
| 16:25.59 | sb | i know :o |
| 16:26.03 | dreamss | never seen a fight like that :P |
| 16:26.04 | evl | people used arcane res+ :P |
| 16:26.05 | sb | yesyes :p |
| 16:26.10 | sb | AoE effect is also removed? |
| 16:26.10 | evl | We just hugged her and ignored debuff |
| 16:26.11 | ccKep | http://wowwebstats.com/utbqjvdkuk2vk?s=3734-3976 << our first kill september 3rd.. not doing that bad on dps (salaxea I mean) |
| 16:26.11 | evl | :D |
| 16:26.13 | sb | that lightning stuff |
| 16:26.14 | Towbar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.21 | evl | ./hug;/pewpew |
| 16:26.25 | Towbar | LOL evl! |
| 16:26.30 | evl | It's true |
| 16:26.34 | Towbar | that would be a great screenshot |
| 16:26.36 | evl | never 1 arcane res on the while raid |
| 16:26.44 | evl | just everyone stand ontop of her and hit her until she dies :P |
| 16:26.50 | evl | whole_* |
| 16:26.54 | Towbar | she isnt that hard to kill anyway |
| 16:26.58 | evl | was great fun while it lasted ;) |
| 16:27.02 | Towbar | 66% last time before first split |
| 16:27.30 | Towbar | evl - that was close to our first attempt on wednesday |
| 16:27.33 | Towbar | :) |
| 16:27.47 | the-golem | nub question, for pitbull, whats Focus and Focus target? |
| 16:27.56 | evl | target someone and type /Focus |
| 16:27.56 | cryogen | focus, and focus' target |
| 16:27.57 | ccKep | wiped 3 or 4 times on solarian yesterday |
| 16:27.59 | Towbar | ~focus |
| 16:28.03 | Towbar | meh |
| 16:28.03 | ccKep | damn retards killing our melee dps |
| 16:28.10 | Towbar | haha |
| 16:28.33 | Towbar | we wiped once cause we hadnt a clue, second time for fun then ownd her |
| 16:28.39 | the-golem | for focus fire? |
| 16:28.39 | ccKep | and wiped 5 times to kael too, too many newcomers for attunements -.- |
| 16:28.43 | Towbar | some nice screens from second try |
| 16:29.00 | Towbar | yea we are attuning the others in teh guild that need it tonight |
| 16:29.04 | Towbar | :/ |
| 16:29.09 | Towbar | should be interesting |
| 16:29.15 | oO|Casey|Oo | visor works thx. next addon question. An Addon that improves the inspect frame. shows stats, ... when inspecting a player |
| 16:29.18 | Towbar | and expensive |
| 16:29.24 | ccKep | new healers are a pain there |
| 16:29.29 | Towbar | yea |
| 16:29.30 | ccKep | letting keyroles die |
| 16:29.33 | Killmore2 | this week on solarian, a rogue who take the debuff of the bomb just pop is sprint and boom ! |
| 16:29.41 | cryogen | the-golem: its just a way of assigning special status to a unit |
| 16:29.47 | cryogen | so you can target macros at them and stuff |
| 16:30.01 | Killmore2 | Wrath of the Astromancer > Sprint |
| 16:30.09 | Towbar | means you can heal a focus target without deselecting your target etc |
| 16:30.17 | Towbar | eg set focus to MT |
| 16:30.25 | cryogen | or set focus to sheep target |
| 16:30.28 | cryogen | or whatever |
| 16:30.42 | Towbar | yea thats a nice example |
| 16:30.47 | Towbar | or banish |
| 16:30.58 | cryogen | i use it for shackle |
| 16:31.05 | Towbar | same on my SP |
| 16:31.06 | MoonWitch | Ellipsis, you were right, PT3 isn't that bad .. :) |
| 16:31.11 | Ellipsis | =] |
| 16:31.22 | CIA-12 | 03sinaloit * r50515 10Cartographer_Cleanup/ (Cartographer_Cleanup.toc Cleanup.lua): |
| 16:31.22 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Cleanup: |
| 16:31.22 | CIA-12 | - Updated .TOC |
| 16:31.22 | CIA-12 | - Lessened spam from cleaning. |
| 16:31.33 | Towbar | and if there is no shackle i have it on MT for emergency bubble |
| 16:31.48 | Towbar | and FW |
| 16:31.49 | MoonWitch | just need to find how to unlock the bar so I can drag it as a whole .. I suck at aligning stuff pixel perfect |
| 16:31.59 | Ellipsis | MoonWitch: you don't drag it as a whole |
| 16:32.08 | Ellipsis | you just drag the first button then do the layout thingy and they all snap to it |
| 16:32.16 | MoonWitch | OOH |
| 16:32.17 | *** join/#wowace ravagernl (n=chatzill@85.148.20.110) |
| 16:32.25 | MoonWitch | so I don't need to drag them all |
| 16:32.27 | MoonWitch | good |
| 16:32.27 | ravagernl | Hey guys |
| 16:32.28 | MoonWitch | woot wotot |
| 16:32.31 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50516 10FlexBar2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): FlexBar2: Fix the hideblizz command |
| 16:32.51 | ravagernl | Does anyone know why sometimes sounds don't play for me (Prat chatsounds)? |
| 16:32.59 | Ellipsis | ravagernl: Blizz bug in patch |
| 16:33.08 | ravagernl | ah just thwat i thought |
| 16:33.15 | sylvanaar | blizzard bug, havent really tried to work around it |
| 16:33.21 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah normal sounds doesn't play for me sometimes |
| 16:33.28 | ravagernl | s/thwat/what/ |
| 16:33.29 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: there's some workaround code on forums somewhere |
| 16:33.54 | Nickenyfiken | How can you work around sounds that is not from UI addons? |
| 16:34.06 | Towbar | ravagernl: have you 5.1 sound? |
| 16:34.06 | ravagernl | hmmm, http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7624-MusicFix20200.1.html? |
| 16:34.26 | ravagernl | towbar: no just stereo no dobly |
| 16:34.29 | Towbar | kk |
| 16:34.34 | ravagernl | doh |
| 16:34.37 | Nickenyfiken | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7624-MusicFix20200.1.html hmm |
| 16:34.40 | ravagernl | s/dobly/dolby/ |
| 16:34.45 | Towbar | seriously this stupid new sound engine is a joke |
| 16:34.51 | Towbar | killing rfamerates |
| 16:34.55 | Towbar | framerates* |
| 16:35.01 | Nickenyfiken | It does? |
| 16:35.10 | Towbar | yea |
| 16:35.18 | Towbar | try being melee at leo |
| 16:35.54 | Towbar | and i got a nice PC, framerate halfed on leo fight, glad I got an audigy 2 ZA... |
| 16:35.58 | NivFreak | Towbar: yea, it's terrible while tanking on my laptop |
| 16:36.17 | Nickenyfiken | Upgrade sound drivers :-P |
| 16:36.28 | Nickenyfiken | *shrug* |
| 16:36.44 | Towbar | its a software sound engine in 2.2 |
| 16:36.47 | Nickenyfiken | I have a AC97 crap onboard thing and i have no problem with framerates |
| 16:36.56 | Towbar | means a proper soundcard is bypassed and the CPU does the work |
| 16:37.08 | ravagernl | http://ace.pastey.net/74683 |
| 16:37.09 | Towbar | must be some sort of preperation for voice chat |
| 16:37.35 | NivFreak | Towbar: it is |
| 16:37.35 | Towbar | so creative card owners have greatly reduced framerates now |
| 16:38.05 | Towbar | I made a post on teh tech forums with a suggestion, give us the option for hardware sound and no voice chat then i can /care and go back to nice gaming |
| 16:38.40 | MoonWitch | Ellipsis, oh guru of all kinds of things, is there a way to have PT3Bar hide categories that have no items? |
| 16:38.46 | Towbar | creative also offered to help blizz and do all the work to get creative products working properly and blizz told them to f'off |
| 16:38.47 | cncfanatics | Towbar, u realise that their new system probably doesnt allow that right ? |
| 16:38.56 | Ellipsis | dunno MoonWitch - sorry, haven't used it much other than to know it exists and works :P |
| 16:39.15 | Towbar | cnc: its all software problems - therefore coding can fix it |
| 16:39.31 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50517 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: Zul'Aman prep for PTR this week |
| 16:39.37 | Towbar | it worked before, and if it doesnt work now then its frankly, rediculous programming |
| 16:39.59 | Towbar | 9 million people playing a game paying money everymonth and they cant make a proper sound engine... retarded |
| 16:40.23 | Towbar | i was down to 11 fps on leo |
| 16:40.27 | Towbar | thats stupid |
| 16:40.31 | Towbar | used to be 45 MIN |
| 16:40.59 | Towbar | if i turn of all wowsound and restart the game i never go below 56 fps |
| 16:41.07 | Nickenyfiken | Uuh SpellReminder doesn't use shared media settings :-/ |
| 16:41.09 | MoonWitch | Towbar, I have the same issue |
| 16:41.28 | Towbar | but i like sound in games, megaworks thx speakers, audigy 2 zs card, 5.1 headphones for raids etc |
| 16:41.46 | Towbar | what next? |
| 16:41.50 | Towbar | EGA graphics? |
| 16:41.59 | MoonWitch | I can't even get the voice to sound loud enough to be audible. lol |
| 16:42.00 | Towbar | lets take another 10 year leap back |
| 16:42.07 | Towbar | lolo |
| 16:42.08 | MoonWitch | even if I use my speakers as amplifiers |
| 16:42.13 | Towbar | haha |
| 16:42.25 | Towbar | plus with 5.1 speaker setup i loose alot of sounds now |
| 16:42.33 | MoonWitch | I will at best hear something that sounds like murlocish |
| 16:42.35 | Towbar | if its not in FL and FR i dont hear it |
| 16:42.38 | CIA-12 | 03athou * r50518 10Taggle/Taggle.lua: |
| 16:42.38 | CIA-12 | Taggle: |
| 16:42.38 | CIA-12 | - improved multi-lines spam removal |
| 16:42.46 | NivFreak | I play with sound off most of the time anyway |
| 16:42.52 | helget | Need a small mod that removes that stupid error-box that takes half the screen (when lua gives errors) |
| 16:42.52 | NivFreak | I usually turn it on during raids |
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| 16:43.02 | Towbar | i like having sounds, can help me react to events |
| 16:43.03 | NivFreak | helget: bugsack |
| 16:43.14 | helget | thx |
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| 16:44.08 | Towbar | fact of the matter is: it worked perfect before, and now with this voice chat system it doesnt work, and in game voice chat is not something I will ever frankly use |
| 16:44.20 | Towbar | if i pug its with other guilds who let me on TS or vent |
| 16:44.39 | Towbar | and we have CD quality vent so... |
| 16:45.09 | Ellipsis | yeah, IMO Blizz can do whatever pathetic attempt at imitating voice chat they want, but when they start messing with my framerates to do so, they can go to hell >_> |
| 16:45.26 | Towbar | ./agree |
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| 16:45.37 | Towbar | and the GREATLY reduced sound quality |
| 16:45.48 | Towbar | and my CPU runs 3 or 4 degrees hotter in raids |
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| 16:47.43 | Towbar | no creative updates available :( |
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| 16:49.17 | Mudkips | | Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT.' |
| 16:49.18 | Towbar | how can i look at buggrabber errors? |
| 16:49.18 | Mudkips | lol |
| 16:49.32 | Towbar | since the patch i am getting the 20 in a second warning :/ |
| 16:49.37 | Mudkips | Towbar, do you use fubar? |
| 16:49.41 | Towbar | yes |
| 16:49.43 | Towbar | ofc :) |
| 16:49.44 | Ellipsis | you can click the icon |
| 16:49.45 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 16:49.47 | Mudkips | ^ |
| 16:49.47 | Towbar | kk |
| 16:50.55 | ulic | which bot in here processes lua? |
| 16:52.02 | CIA-12 | 03athou * r50519 10Taggle/Taggle.lua: |
| 16:52.02 | CIA-12 | Taggle: |
| 16:52.02 | CIA-12 | - copy-pasting is evil |
| 16:52.02 | Corey | that one *points vaguely* |
| 16:53.42 | Towbar | lol |
| 16:55.33 | Towbar | how many gnomes does it take to paint a wall? |
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| 16:55.46 | ccKep | Your Earth Shield critically heals you for 1639. << yay ^.^ |
| 16:55.48 | Ellipsis | depends how hard yuo throw them Towbar |
| 16:55.49 | Towbar | ....depends how hard you throw them :P |
| 16:55.58 | Ellipsis | I love repurposed dead baby jokes |
| 16:56.02 | Towbar | indeed |
| 16:56.04 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50520 10/Scrooge/ (. Scrooge.lua Scrooge.toc): Scrooge: Removed requirement to load first in order to kill Ace2 donation links, added TOC data. |
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| 16:59.11 | Fisker- | Funkeh` |
| 16:59.15 | Fisker- | you funkydude eh? |
| 16:59.32 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 16:59.44 | Towbar | buggrabber is not in rock |
| 16:59.48 | Ellipsis | I think he's "playing" with Industrial atm ;) |
| 17:00.16 | Ellipsis | Towbar: BugGrabber doesn't have any options does it? just BugSack, which is in Rock o.O |
| 17:00.25 | CIA-12 | 03mikma * r50521 10!Scrooge/: !Scrooge: Switched svn accounts |
| 17:00.26 | CIA-12 | 03ulic * r50522 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Capacitus.lua: LittleWigs: Added Enrage warnings for Heroic Capacitus (drycoded) |
| 17:00.33 | Towbar | yes but how can I get teh ocon on fubar? |
| 17:01.03 | Ellipsis | BugSack is the one with the icon |
| 17:01.14 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: Wouldn't you like to know. |
| 17:01.18 | Funkeh` | Fisker-: yes |
| 17:01.21 | Hjalte | Towbar: BugGrabber is just a tool for BugSack. |
| 17:01.23 | Ellipsis | Funkeh`: yeah, because mine's almost done downloading :x |
| 17:01.35 | Funkeh` | I'm not, I'm waiting for you. |
| 17:01.47 | Fisker- | zul'aman prep? |
| 17:01.51 | Funkeh` | If Industrial is even still there :D |
| 17:01.51 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50523 10BigWigs/Plugins/Sound.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Sound: add temp workaround to blizz PlaySoundFile bug |
| 17:01.53 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50524 10/ (Scrooge/ trunk/Scrooge/): Scrooge: Failed, forgot to add /trunk/ |
| 17:02.06 | Funkeh` | Fisker-: Yes? |
| 17:02.21 | ulic | ersation. |
| 17:02.21 | ulic | [17:43] <Funkeh`> improving: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1773/aguffc3. |
| 17:02.21 | ulic | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.24 | CIA-12 | 03prudence * r50525 10Assessment/Modules/ (6 files): |
| 17:02.24 | CIA-12 | Assessment: |
| 17:02.24 | CIA-12 | - Update french translation. Remove your "<wow_directory>/WFT/Account/<Player>/SavedVariables/Assessment.lua" and "Assessment.lua.bak" if you have an Error in BarInterface.lua. |
| 17:02.33 | ulic | gosh dang it |
| 17:02.36 | Funkeh` | ulic: ... |
| 17:02.36 | Ellipsis | ~fail ulic |
| 17:02.36 | purl | ulic: Fail. |
| 17:02.40 | ulic | no more nephews for me |
| 17:02.43 | [Ammo] | fail |
| 17:02.50 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r50526 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 17:02.50 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:02.50 | CIA-12 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 17:02.57 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r50527 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/TempestKeep/TheEye/VoidReaver.lua: |
| 17:02.57 | CIA-12 | Threat-1.0: |
| 17:02.57 | CIA-12 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 17:03.41 | Towbar | just installed bugsack, that might help :) |
| 17:03.42 | *** join/#wowace TE|Kulaar (n=182Kulaa@p5B157F98.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:04.01 | TE|Kulaar | Can someone confirm that Buffalo isnt working atm? |
| 17:04.55 | Funkeh` | Works fine for me |
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| 17:05.05 | Towbar | ahhh it seems its stopthespam thats giving errors |
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| 17:06.11 | Ellipsis | haven't had problems with Buffalo |
| 17:06.20 | Ellipsis | what's happening with yours TE|Kulaar? |
| 17:06.32 | TE|Kulaar | disappeared -.- |
| 17:06.43 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 17:07.04 | Towbar | [2007/10/01 18:02:58-2239-x1]: Metrognome-2.0-12749 (Flurry):50: attempt to call method 'assert' (a nil value) |
| 17:07.09 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 17:07.13 | Hjalte | nevcairiel, is it possible to disable shift + mouse scroll / up and down, for changing the bars in bartender? |
| 17:07.15 | Towbar | does that mean its a flurry problem? |
| 17:07.23 | Ellipsis | does anything even use metrognome anymore? |
| 17:07.34 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: unbind it from default interface keybindings :P |
| 17:07.44 | TE|Kulaar | what is the /cmd to config buffalo? |
| 17:07.51 | Ellipsis | uh... /buffalo |
| 17:07.54 | Ellipsis | I'm guessing |
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| 17:08.09 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: Thanks. |
| 17:08.09 | Kain___ | today's oRA2 update happen to fix the CoolDown Monitor list? :-D |
| 17:08.24 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 17:08.25 | Towbar | AceAddon-2.0-46764 (!StopTheSpam):483: in function <...dOns\!StopTheSpam\libs\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:460><in C code>: ? |
| 17:08.25 | [Ammo] | Kain___: read forums |
| 17:08.42 | Towbar | so is it flurry or stopthespamm giving me errors? |
| 17:09.02 | Ellipsis | clearly the errors are coming from multiple places |
| 17:09.21 | Ellipsis | I've never heard of either of those so I can't say that I really know what the issues might be |
| 17:09.28 | Towbar | will cleaup both of those then, remove settings addons and reinstall |
| 17:10.45 | Kain___ | Ammo: Ty! |
| 17:10.55 | Kain___ | and Ty Gaorian! |
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| 17:13.43 | Towbar | anyone know an addon that will show me my current AP, weapon speed etc? |
| 17:13.53 | Towbar | seems flurry is not on the addon list |
| 17:14.03 | Towbar | nvm found one |
| 17:14.07 | Towbar | meleeframe |
| 17:14.13 | Arcaia | !c us shattered hand Robhammer |
| 17:14.17 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Robhammer, Level 70 Human Warrior (8/0/53). 12224 HP; 11733 Armour; 1132 AP; 195.400 Melee DPS; 8.99% melee crit; 39 melee hit; 173 defense; 13.53% dodge; 15.24% block; 57 resilience;[[ TBR: 1489 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dhv8q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o52r5 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 13:14:22 2007 EST ]] |
| 17:14.43 | Arcaia | he logged in non-tank gear, meh. |
| 17:14.51 | Towbar | was gonna say ;) |
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| 17:16.15 | hypetech | !c us trollbane Damien |
| 17:16.18 | ThraeBot | hypetech: Damien, Level 70 Undead Mage (10/48/3). 5973 HP; 8561 Mana; 146 mana regen; 6 mp5; 303 spell crit; 164 spell hit; 851 +spell dmg; 172 arcane dmg (1023); 172 fire dmg (1023); 4.94% dodge; 13 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 848 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yug5wd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36uo6s ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 13:16:24 2007 EST ]] |
| 17:16.22 | hypetech | cool bot |
| 17:17.13 | cryogen | where is sag when you need him |
| 17:17.16 | Towbar | hmmmm meleeframe is very "lightweight" anyone know an alternative? |
| 17:17.32 | cryogen | ~seen sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:17.34 | purl | sag_ich_nicht <i=bitch2k@85.127.102.240> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 54m 42s ago, saying: ':X'. |
| 17:18.40 | dreamss | driving home |
| 17:18.41 | cryogen | lolinternet: ah, there you are |
| 17:19.10 | lolinternet | what |
| 17:19.30 | cryogen | you're going to teach me how to play paladin |
| 17:19.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ~instagib cr4zyd |
| 17:19.34 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 17:19.36 | sag_ich_nicht | wrong person |
| 17:19.41 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's not implemented anyway |
| 17:19.43 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 17:19.44 | cryogen | or in short: why did you tell me to take imp BoM, do you use that while grinding? |
| 17:19.50 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 17:19.56 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 17:20.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i told you because else you lack the points to go up in the tree |
| 17:20.10 | cryogen | i used to use BoW |
| 17:20.19 | sag_ich_nicht | buy water |
| 17:20.28 | cryogen | :) |
| 17:20.36 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't need BoW to grind, unless you're deep prot and AoE grind |
| 17:20.42 | cryogen | do you just smack mobs with everything you have or are there some mana conservation? |
| 17:20.50 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 17:20.53 | cryogen | (ie, SoC, stun judge, CS, rinse repeat?) |
| 17:21.13 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, but normally i leave the stun out unless i need it or want the damn SOB to DIE already |
| 17:21.23 | cryogen | k |
| 17:21.30 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 17:21.37 | sag_ich_nicht | you should apply judgement of the crusader first to the mob |
| 17:21.40 | cryogen | ya |
| 17:21.40 | sag_ich_nicht | then smack him with SoC |
| 17:21.55 | sag_ich_nicht | the thing is, ret has a tiny manapool |
| 17:22.15 | sag_ich_nicht | BoW doesn't help you much there |
| 17:22.29 | cryogen | does at low levels at least |
| 17:22.32 | sag_ich_nicht | you'll be oom either way and have to drink |
| 17:22.33 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 17:22.40 | cryogen | i guess there's no getting away from drinking my ass off :) |
| 17:22.42 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1015903842&postId=10157927134&sid=1#0 |
| 17:22.54 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 17:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | wrong link |
| 17:22.59 | sag_ich_nicht | stupid copy paste |
| 17:22.59 | Ellipsis | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:23.00 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: Fail. |
| 17:23.03 | sag_ich_nicht | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gul%27dan&n=Ruknor |
| 17:23.06 | sag_ich_nicht | hi Ellipsis |
| 17:23.09 | Ellipsis | hai2u |
| 17:23.11 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 17:23.12 | Xinhuan | ~seen grum |
| 17:23.14 | purl | grum is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 308 messages. Is idling for 2h 21m 54s, last said: 'nopressingmybuttons :'('. |
| 17:23.14 | Grum | Could anyone tell me the spawntime on the Enchanted Elemental during the Vashj fight? |
| 17:23.15 | Grum | I AM NOT HERE |
| 17:23.19 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU ARE NOW |
| 17:23.19 | Xinhuan | never mine! |
| 17:23.20 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 17:23.21 | Xinhuan | mind* |
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| 17:23.31 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU WILL NOW RELEASE THE PATHS |
| 17:23.32 | Xinhuan | you JUST had to talk at the same time huh huh |
| 17:23.33 | sag_ich_nicht | SO I MAY FARM! |
| 17:23.35 | Ellipsis | that was spectacular timing |
| 17:24.04 | sag_ich_nicht | (don't wonder about the missing shoulders, the armory fails at providing 2.2 items) |
| 17:24.28 | Xinhuan | whatcha doing on that addon now grum |
| 17:25.26 | Erica | I'm having an issue with the new "rock" configurator when trying to hide the icon from the fubar and the minimap... seems to want to appear in one of those places regardless of what setting I try |
| 17:25.26 | Trae | Anyone here on Linux with Wine using Mic in voice chat yet? |
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| 17:26.25 | Erica | apologies if that's a known issue but didn't see it |
| 17:27.00 | Ellipsis | hmm, are you using the latest version Erica? |
| 17:27.11 | Erica | just ran the updater |
| 17:27.29 | Fisker- | OH HIIIIIIIIIIIIII |
| 17:27.31 | Erica | also it seems that pitbull isn't downloading dependencies |
| 17:27.36 | Fisker- | i had to get that off my chest |
| 17:27.44 | Erica | lol |
| 17:27.52 | xyu | i think she meant latest version of WAU |
| 17:27.58 | Erica | yes |
| 17:28.11 | Erica | and I have the latest versions of the addons per the wau |
| 17:28.32 | Ellipsis | that sounds like a WAU issue |
| 17:28.49 | Pkekyo | jesus titty fucking christ! napoleon dynamite is such a sad flick |
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| 17:29.13 | Erica | I checked the config to make sure to select download dependencies |
| 17:30.01 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50528 10BigWigs/ (10 files in 10 dirs): BigWigs: fix curse and forum links in tocs |
| 17:30.57 | Ellipsis | well it may be a bug in the updater :/ |
| 17:31.02 | Fisker- | so mr. Funkeh` |
| 17:31.10 | Fisker- | how can you prep for zul'aman? |
| 17:31.13 | Fisker- | HAX? |
| 17:31.22 | Erica | I just checked again and it did update the wau... must have just put a new one up |
| 17:31.23 | Funkeh` | Read the fucking changelog |
| 17:32.16 | Nickenyfiken | Someone fix TopSoreFu spelling error |
| 17:32.22 | Nickenyfiken | pour -> sour |
| 17:32.23 | Fisker- | SORRY FUNKEH |
| 17:32.25 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:32.29 | Erica | the configurator icon refusing to be hidden is just a minor thing but kinda annoying |
| 17:32.33 | Nickenyfiken | line 460 |
| 17:32.53 | Ellipsis | oh hay I has a Fortress Forever |
| 17:33.14 | Fisker- | you could just have said it was to get a template running mr. Funkeh` :( |
| 17:33.16 | NivFreak | haha |
| 17:33.17 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: Just in time for me to be stolen by my arena team |
| 17:33.23 | Ellipsis | =[ Funkeh` |
| 17:33.29 | NivFreak | nice, I noticed that my FF win music wasn't playing last night |
| 17:33.32 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: yes dear? |
| 17:33.39 | NivFreak | glad to see it's fixed! |
| 17:33.41 | sylvanaar | Erica you probably use embedded libraries |
| 17:33.41 | Fisker- | i love you Funkeh` |
| 17:33.42 | Ellipsis | maybe later then, I have to optimize a bit of stuff before my compy will be playable again anyhow |
| 17:34.02 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: ;p |
| 17:34.06 | Funkeh` | Fisker-: /pat |
| 17:34.36 | Fisker- | *purrs* |
| 17:35.41 | *** join/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 17:35.42 | Erica | I'm not sure if I run embedded or not... I have libraries outside the main addon folders though and they're updated separately so whatever that is... embedded or not |
| 17:36.00 | Ellipsis | that could still be either, depending on what's inside the PitBull dir :/ |
| 17:36.22 | Ellipsis | IIRC WAU allows strange mixings of some embedded and some disembedded at the same time |
| 17:36.39 | Erica | just layouts and media folders in the main pitbull folder |
| 17:36.48 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:33] <cryogen> sag_ich_nicht: yes dear? <--you didn't say anything. |
| 17:37.29 | Erica | other modules are the same level in the directory tree as pitbull |
| 17:38.47 | Ellipsis | do you have a libs dir? |
| 17:39.03 | Ellipsis | inside PitBull that is |
| 17:39.07 | Erica | no |
| 17:39.22 | Ellipsis | then it's disembedded |
| 17:39.26 | cryogen | 18:31 * sag_ich_nicht pokes cryogen |
| 17:39.30 | Ellipsis | and should download the dependencies properly :/ |
| 17:39.38 | Ellipsis | which ones exactly is it not downoading? |
| 17:39.45 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
| 17:39.54 | Erica | well when pitbull downloaded, that was all |
| 17:39.55 | cryogen | :) |
| 17:40.10 | Erica | the dependencies used to appear in the list and skipped them if they were already there |
| 17:40.25 | Ellipsis | are you actually having any problems in-game? |
| 17:40.27 | Erica | now it's just getting pitbull... like something isn't checked off properly |
| 17:40.44 | Ellipsis | you probably just already have all the needed libs :/ |
| 17:40.52 | *** join/#wowace Dezzimal (n=que@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org) |
| 17:40.59 | Erica | the problem Im having is with the rock configurator icon... I want to remove it from both the fubar and the minimap frames but it always comes back |
| 17:41.08 | Ellipsis | yes but you get no missing lib errors? |
| 17:41.16 | Erica | no errors at all |
| 17:41.23 | Ellipsis | then the WAU thing isn't a problem :/ |
| 17:42.03 | Erica | ok kool... just got used to seeing them at least appear in the list |
| 17:42.13 | Erica | maybe it was changed so it no longer shows |
| 17:42.19 | Ellipsis | maybe |
| 17:42.24 | Ellipsis | you'd have to ask sylvanaar |
| 17:42.40 | *** join/#wowace rophy (n=Miranda@125.164.3.255) |
| 17:42.44 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: agi or dmg? :p |
| 17:42.54 | Erica | Are you still there by chance sylvanaar? |
| 17:43.11 | Pkekyo | anyone seen Napoleon Dynamite? |
| 17:43.12 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: what? |
| 17:43.13 | sag_ich_nicht | crit. |
| 17:43.14 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 17:43.32 | sag_ich_nicht | critrating > agi, since it will mean there is more +str or more +sta on the gear |
| 17:43.32 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 17:43.34 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, some of it only, unfortunately. |
| 17:43.46 | cryogen | i was giving you the choice of agi and +dmg :p |
| 17:43.49 | cryogen | theres no +crit |
| 17:43.52 | sag_ich_nicht | what kind of +dmg |
| 17:43.57 | cryogen | spelldmg ofc |
| 17:43.58 | sag_ich_nicht | +spelldmg +weapon dmg +str |
| 17:43.59 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:44.00 | sag_ich_nicht | agi |
| 17:44.01 | sag_ich_nicht | or |
| 17:44.02 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 17:44.04 | sag_ich_nicht | show me the items |
| 17:44.10 | cryogen | two crappy greens |
| 17:44.13 | cryogen | one has str/sta/agi |
| 17:44.14 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: PLEASE tell me that it gets better further into the movie? |
| 17:44.19 | cryogen | one has str/sta/dmg |
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| 17:44.28 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, i thought the start was kind of funny :P |
| 17:44.32 | Erica | thanks for your help all... think I'll get back to farming fun :P |
| 17:44.32 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: show me the items :X |
| 17:44.33 | Hjalte | Havent seen the ending |
| 17:44.35 | sag_ich_nicht | gogo wowhead :O |
| 17:44.39 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 17:44.41 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen |
| 17:44.44 | sag_ich_nicht | install RatingBuster |
| 17:44.47 | sag_ich_nicht | and configure it properly |
| 17:44.51 | sag_ich_nicht | it will help you a ton |
| 17:44.54 | sag_ich_nicht | as well as DrDamage |
| 17:45.12 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: I haven't even smiled a single fucking time...I'm trying desperately to find someone to tell me it'll get better x) |
| 17:45.13 | CIA-12 | 03thexod * r50529 10ItemValue_DrDamage/CasterSet.lua: |
| 17:45.13 | CIA-12 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 17:45.13 | CIA-12 | - Fixed SpellRank validation error |
| 17:45.14 | cryogen | good ide |
| 17:46.05 | ramoz | ehm |
| 17:46.07 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: i'll harass the addons instead of you then, ta :) |
| 17:46.17 | ramoz | how do i remove the Big Wigs Version Query window? |
| 17:46.27 | Funkeh` | right click it |
| 17:47.59 | CIA-12 | 03thexod * r50530 10ItemValue_DrDamage/CasterSet.lua: |
| 17:47.59 | CIA-12 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 17:48.00 | CIA-12 | - Fixed ClearCache calling |
| 17:48.58 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:48.59 | sag_ich_nicht | that's great. |
| 17:49.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 17:49.07 | sag_ich_nicht | thottbot and cart are now conflicting. |
| 17:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | awesome. |
| 17:49.28 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: but to answer you, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25511 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24947(of the beast) |
| 17:49.39 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 17:49.45 | sag_ich_nicht | might just be looknfeel |
| 17:52.27 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 17:52.33 | sag_ich_nicht | something in cart is broken |
| 17:52.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight Cartographer_InstanceMaps-2.0 is breaking |
| 17:52.56 | sag_ich_nicht | hard |
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| 17:53.12 | Mudkips | stop the press |
| 17:53.34 | cryogen | oooh |
| 17:53.36 | cryogen | new rockconfig, i like it |
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| 17:57.07 | Crysli | Someone help me get over my UI fiddling addiction. I haven't managed to get past level 42 yet, some of it dure to my constants changing of UI. D: |
| 17:58.24 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: take the one with spelldmg |
| 17:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | it has +int, your manapool is small enough already |
| 17:58.54 | NivFreak | I don't think I used any addons before 60 |
| 17:58.55 | NivFreak | heh |
| 17:59.13 | NivFreak | (the first time) |
| 18:01.12 | Hjalte | sag_ich_nicht: there's several jira topics about instance maps already. I think he knows :) |
| 18:01.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Hjalte: doesn't mean i won't bitch about it! |
| 18:02.17 | Hjalte | sag_ich_nicht: I tried to, he didnt answer me :P |
| 18:03.19 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: up to 4.3k mana now, rejigged my gear a bit :) |
| 18:04.03 | Ellipsis | he's asleep, guys, geez |
| 18:04.08 | Ellipsis | give the guy a break :P |
| 18:04.35 | Ellipsis | plus, cncfanatics and I already have dibs on him when he gets up, via a Rock bug |
| 18:04.36 | Hjalte | Sleep is for the weak! |
| 18:04.38 | Ellipsis | and ours is cooler than yours |
| 18:04.43 | Ellipsis | so get in line |
| 18:05.16 | Ellipsis | hay be nice |
| 18:05.38 | Ellipsis | emokitteh is sensitive :'( |
| 18:06.02 | Hjalte | You haz no cheezburger today? |
| 18:06.22 | Ellipsis | dey stoelz mah bukkit =[ |
| 18:06.46 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, ckk notices plenty of ppl :p |
| 18:06.50 | cncfanatics | ur just not one of them xD |
| 18:07.33 | Mudkips | lolcats is a ripoff of caturday |
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| 18:08.01 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r50531 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Add PlaySoundFile workaround bigwigs uses |
| 18:08.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:03] <cryogen> sag_ich_nicht: up to 4.3k mana now, rejigged my gear a bit :) <--sounds better |
| 18:08.21 | charon | evening |
| 18:09.08 | Mudkips | wow a pink search engine http://www.pinkle.net/ |
| 18:09.27 | Hjalte | Meh, this stupid gnome is not selling me any recipes for runecloth bags today.. Been standing at her for a couple of hours now and bought several of the two other random stuff she has :< |
| 18:09.43 | sb | Conflicting translation for Novice Astromancer in deDE: old is "Astronomnovize", new is "Sternenseherlehrling". Please report to Antiarc.: |
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| 18:11.28 | sag_ich_nicht | sternseherlehrling sounds way better |
| 18:11.29 | sag_ich_nicht | imho |
| 18:11.31 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 18:11.36 | sag_ich_nicht | deDE client still SMELLS OF SHIT |
| 18:11.43 | sag_ich_nicht | since they renamed Ironforge to Eisenschmiede |
| 18:11.45 | sag_ich_nicht | srsly wtf |
| 18:13.32 | NivFreak | didn't they add new violet eye rep rewards in 2.2? |
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| 18:14.08 | Hjalte | NivFreak: Yeah |
| 18:14.14 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:14.21 | Ellipsis | how many syllables is "Sternenseherlehrling" |
| 18:14.23 | NivFreak | Hjalte: who is selling them? |
| 18:14.29 | NivFreak | the guy out front? |
| 18:14.33 | Ellipsis | yep |
| 18:14.34 | Hjalte | NivFreak: The guy outside Karazhan. |
| 18:14.43 | NivFreak | odd, I didn't see anything on him |
| 18:15.48 | sylvanaar | what are double bracket strings? |
| 18:15.56 | sylvanaar | geez |
| 18:15.58 | Ellipsis | uh...strings? |
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| 18:17.35 | NivFreak | ah, I see |
| 18:17.38 | NivFreak | just 2 new items |
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| 18:21.00 | ckknight | sylvanaar: [[hay guise ima string!]] |
| 18:21.07 | Ellipsis | ckknight! |
| 18:21.10 | Ellipsis | you just made me a liar =[ |
| 18:21.37 | ckknight | for serial? |
| 18:21.57 | sylvanaar | long brackets |
| 18:22.06 | sylvanaar | how obscure |
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| 18:23.01 | sylvanaar | [====[Hi Im a gay language feature]====] |
| 18:23.13 | Ellipsis | you are? |
| 18:23.17 | Ellipsis | that would explain some things |
| 18:23.28 | sylvanaar | thats valid syntax |
| 18:23.29 | Amadeo | Gay as in happy? |
| 18:23.49 | Xinhuan | lol i should write addons with that syntax |
| 18:24.03 | silentium | double bracket strings can contain line breaks I think |
| 18:24.16 | Hjalte | Arrrggghh. Once again, "Pattern: Frostsaber Boots" Instead of my Runecloth Bag. WoW doesnt like me today. |
| 18:24.22 | ckknight | silentium: and backslashes |
| 18:25.23 | silentium | Ellipsis: "Ster-nen-se-her-lehr-ling", 6 syllables |
| 18:25.31 | Ellipsis | jesus |
| 18:25.34 | sylvanaar | yeah [=====[ will only match ]=====] to end the string |
| 18:26.02 | sylvanaar | you can put 0-n ='s in there |
| 18:26.24 | sylvanaar | how wierd |
| 18:26.38 | CIA-12 | 03darchon * r50532 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: koKR Update |
| 18:26.50 | Amadeo | I just read on (none other than) the Rogue forums that Steven Segal has an energy drink...lol |
| 18:26.56 | sag_ich_nicht | why the FUCK can't i access pallypower on my main? |
| 18:27.02 | Xinhuan | the purpose is to allow you to use [[ ]] inside the [===[ ]===] string ;p |
| 18:27.06 | Xinhuan | and any other combination |
| 18:27.08 | sag_ich_nicht | it's there, but the config menu won't open |
| 18:27.11 | TE|Kulaar | Can someone tell me why the fuck Buffalo, Bigiwgs and Pibull arent working anymore? |
| 18:27.31 | sylvanaar | Xinhuan yeah |
| 18:27.49 | CIA-12 | 03phyber * r50533 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: |
| 18:27.49 | CIA-12 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: |
| 18:27.49 | CIA-12 | - pour -> Pour |
| 18:27.52 | Kirkburn | Best video I've seen for a while, absolutely hilarious! http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?video_id=yL_-1d9OSdk&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//img.youtube.com/vi/yL_-1d9OSdk/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKI_A2rGRq96POdtYegzwGY&rel=1 |
| 18:27.57 | sylvanaar | ckknight yeah, those were messing up my syntax hilighting |
| 18:28.11 | silentium | Ellipsis: the biggest difference is that the german language alows to concatenate substantives, whereas the english language keeps them separated with spaces, "Sternenseherlehrling" means "Apprentice Star Scryer" which has 6 syllables too ;) |
| 18:28.33 | Ellipsis | I know that silentium |
| 18:28.36 | Ellipsis | it just makes my eyes burn |
| 18:28.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd prefer someone tell my why my FUCKING pallypowers config isn't opening |
| 18:28.48 | Ellipsis | because it doesn't like you |
| 18:29.04 | Amadeo | German needs more spaces, imo |
| 18:29.17 | Ellipsis | yarly |
| 18:29.50 | Amadeo | German spelling bees must be a bitch |
| 18:29.53 | sylvanaar | ok, but can anyone find a reference to long bracketed string in the formal grammer for lua |
| 18:30.13 | Amadeo | Ok Molly, how do you spell "Sternenseherlehrling"? |
| 18:30.16 | charon | you're allowed to put hyphens if it gets too long... you might spell it sterneseher-lehrling if you want to clarify |
| 18:30.21 | Xinhuan | [SERVER] This realm will be undergoing a restart shortly in order to enable Voice Chat. |
| 18:30.23 | Xinhuan | OH NOES |
| 18:30.32 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: yeah, most of them are >_> |
| 18:30.35 | *** join/#wowace Nom- (n=nom@standen.id.au) |
| 18:30.35 | silentium | sag_ich_nicht: maybe it opens outside your screen, try removing all pally power references from your layout-cache.txt |
| 18:30.37 | Amadeo | Not mine, I'm safe |
| 18:30.45 | charon | Amadeo: and btw in german, pronunciation rules are pretty straightforward :) but the grammar is rather ugly |
| 18:30.50 | Amadeo | I hope I never get voice chat |
| 18:30.58 | Amadeo | I can barely deal with anyone in text as it is :P |
| 18:31.47 | Hjalte | Amadeo: "HI MY NAME IS AND I AM YEARS OLD AND I LOVE WOW WANT TO BE FRIENDS?" - If it's bad now, imagine hearing that with voice on :) |
| 18:31.49 | sylvanaar | maybe thats handled by the lexer - idk its so wierd |
| 18:31.57 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:32.12 | Amadeo | Goldshire RP will be taken to a whole new level |
| 18:32.22 | Ellipsis | eww |
| 18:32.24 | CIA-12 | 03phyber * r50534 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: |
| 18:32.24 | CIA-12 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: |
| 18:32.24 | CIA-12 | - Disable Sink output by default. |
| 18:32.24 | CIA-12 | - Removed old commented out Soar code. |
| 18:32.27 | Amadeo | Now you can say you put on your wizard robe and hat in voice |
| 18:33.13 | SMELTN | voice chat being enabled |
| 18:33.18 | NivFreak | scurry |
| 18:33.18 | SMELTN | on our server now so server down |
| 18:33.20 | Amadeo | I've already read a post on how anytime a girl says something in AV or something that all the guys start saying stuff, lol |
| 18:33.33 | Ellipsis | ugh |
| 18:33.38 | Ellipsis | I can only imagine |
| 18:33.40 | SMELTN | has pitbull been updated for voice chat? |
| 18:33.41 | Amadeo | I wonder how Blizzard is going to handle it |
| 18:33.47 | Ellipsis | I won't be able to do 5mans, I'll have to pretend I don't have a mic |
| 18:33.54 | ckknight | SMELTN: no, my realm doesn't support it yet |
| 18:34.00 | SMELTN | k |
| 18:34.01 | Ellipsis | ckknight: come test on mine <3 |
| 18:34.02 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: Just disguise your voice! |
| 18:34.20 | *** join/#wowace Polarina (n=Polarina@unaffiliated/polarina) |
| 18:34.28 | sylvanaar | i really dont like to hear some people talking |
| 18:34.37 | Amadeo | Hi Polarina |
| 18:34.49 | Polarina | Hello Amadeo. |
| 18:34.56 | ckknight | Ellipsis: lol |
| 18:35.16 | Amadeo | I just "installed" Valuation yesterday :P |
| 18:35.19 | Ellipsis | I'll help you "debug" stuff in a "party" if you want ;) |
| 18:35.23 | Xinhuan | there is a mute function ;p |
| 18:35.23 | Polarina | Amadeo: :D |
| 18:35.38 | Xinhuan | i wonder if RP guilds will require ppl to RP on voice chat |
| 18:35.47 | Xinhuan | on Rp servers |
| 18:36.09 | xyu | Have at thee knave! |
| 18:36.15 | Amadeo | I made a char on an RP server once |
| 18:36.19 | Amadeo | Very few seem to actually RP |
| 18:36.22 | sylvanaar | i have a voice module for prat, i still havent actually used wow's voice feature so, its like half done |
| 18:36.28 | Kameril | i'm never enabling voice chat, anyone I want to talk to can either call me or has our vent info |
| 18:36.34 | xyu | me too, i have a level 1 undead mage sitting at ironforge |
| 18:36.42 | Amadeo | You mean Goldshire |
| 18:36.58 | genetik- | sylvanaar: what's the module [going to] do? |
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| 18:39.34 | sylvanaar | genetik- interleve speach with game text - so you know when someone was talking relative to game messages |
| 18:39.44 | Polarina | Just out of curiosity. What is the purpose of Ace? |
| 18:39.52 | Ellipsis | makes writing addons easier |
| 18:39.53 | sylvanaar | god i cant type |
| 18:40.02 | Ellipsis | reduces duplicated code between addons |
| 18:40.05 | ckknight | Polarina: yea, what Ellipsis said |
| 18:40.12 | genetik- | sylvanaar: neat |
| 18:41.14 | Polarina | ckknight, Ellipsis: But wouldn't it be simpler to just have the WoW API well documented? |
| 18:41.21 | ckknight | no |
| 18:41.27 | Polarina | Why? |
| 18:41.28 | ckknight | because the WoW API doesn't provide everything |
| 18:41.35 | Polarina | Like? |
| 18:41.42 | ckknight | easy Comm |
| 18:41.47 | ckknight | non-painful event handling |
| 18:41.49 | ckknight | scheduling |
| 18:41.57 | ckknight | localization |
| 18:42.04 | ckknight | all sorts of stuff |
| 18:42.06 | Polarina | "non-painful"? |
| 18:42.19 | NightHawkAtWork | Wait, how do you get from "libraries that allow less duplicated code and code-sharing" to "having a well documented API instead" o_0 |
| 18:42.25 | NightHawkAtWork | they're not mutually exclusive |
| 18:42.30 | ckknight | alright, I'm not in the mood for arguing, someone else can take over |
| 18:43.00 | NightHawkAtWork | I mean, by that argument, there's no point to any modern language or code library, we should all just document ASM really well, and call it a day. |
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| 18:43.13 | Polarina | lol |
| 18:43.15 | sylvanaar | a few other things as well, shows if someone is muted, does some fanciness while someone is speaking |
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| 18:43.39 | sylvanaar | whats the point of the question |
| 18:43.52 | *** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@cjm-579.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 18:44.01 | Amadeo | I think the real point of Ace is to start arguments ;) |
| 18:44.18 | genetik- | in a way, i'm kind of looking forward to the voice chat in-game support, if only for the addon integration rather than third party overlay stuff |
| 18:44.19 | Ellipsis | yeah, without Ace we'd all have nothing to rant about all day |
| 18:44.29 | Josh_Borke | Polarina: i think the "point" of ace is to provide a framework that allows development of addons to proceed a little bit easier |
| 18:44.42 | Josh_Borke | Polarina: it makes things like slash commands and profiles much easier than they would be otherwise |
| 18:45.03 | _rane | anyone know if it's possible to see party members' current mana with Grid? |
| 18:45.04 | Ellipsis | yeah, you don't need to reinvent the wheel (e.g. slash command parsing) in every addon |
| 18:45.09 | genetik- | also, you can focus on the business logic better without having to worry about the backend code |
| 18:45.23 | [Ammo] | _rane: there is a mana bars module thing for Grid |
| 18:45.25 | Josh_Borke | with that being said, Ace2 is over-kill for a lot of addons |
| 18:45.31 | [Ammo] | maybe in the base package, maybe not |
| 18:45.58 | Josh_Borke | hm, that's very confusing to read ammo |
| 18:46.09 | Josh_Borke | couldn't you have said: "it may be in the base package, may not be" |
| 18:46.31 | sylvanaar | hey it uses fewer words |
| 18:46.54 | [Ammo] | Josh_Borke: you are overkill on any irc channel |
| 18:46.56 | Josh_Borke | sylvanaar: must be better! |
| 18:46.59 | [Ammo] | ~shoo Josh_Borke |
| 18:47.19 | sylvanaar | must be! fewer <whatever> is always better |
| 18:47.31 | Josh_Borke | less is more! |
| 18:47.50 | Amadeo | tastes great |
| 18:48.08 | Undine_ | gah. can never remember my nickserv password |
| 18:48.28 | [Ammo] | at least I answered a question on this channel instead of trying to get into the pants of random people or talking about fucked up kitten pictures |
| 18:48.59 | Josh_Borke | pretty sure i answered a question and didn't try to get in the pants of random people or talk about fucked up kitten pictures |
| 18:49.06 | NightHawkAtWork | wait, what? |
| 18:49.09 | Amadeo | lol |
| 18:49.11 | Josh_Borke | then again, i did try my hardest to insult every single person i could |
| 18:49.13 | durcyn | #wowace is fucking serious business. |
| 18:49.13 | [Ammo] | you were || this close Josh_Borke |
| 18:49.22 | Josh_Borke | closer imo |
| 18:49.30 | the-golem | wait, someone is raping kittins, what? |
| 18:49.31 | [Ammo] | probably yeah |
| 18:49.33 | the-golem | >.> |
| 18:49.44 | *** join/#wowace SlackerJer (i=SlackerJ@slacker.ucdavis.edu) |
| 18:49.50 | Amadeo | hey, whose hand is that in my pants? |
| 18:50.12 | Josh_Borke | Amadeo: yours |
| 18:50.29 | [Ammo] | anyway less is more, less getting into the pants of others = good |
| 18:50.35 | Amadeo | oh ok, I will proceed then |
| 18:51.31 | ckknight | I came, I saw, I lol'd |
| 18:52.11 | Amadeo | isn't Hellgate: London coming out soon or something? |
| 18:52.15 | Mudkips | Which of the following is the largest? ... |
| 18:52.16 | Mudkips | http://www.dnaco.net/~vogelke/pictures/bad-motivational-posters/image013.jpg |
| 18:53.54 | *** join/#wowace Thordon (n=Thordon@A-96-236.cust.iol.ie) |
| 18:54.02 | ckknight | lol, Mudkips |
| 18:54.13 | *** join/#wowace JCinDE (n=jcinde@c-76-116-131-42.hsd1.de.comcast.net) |
| 18:54.18 | JCinDE | Howdy |
| 18:54.25 | JCinDE | Ellipsis? |
| 18:54.44 | Amadeo | rofl |
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| 18:55.08 | JCinDE | Ellipsis: Saw this and I had to install mIRC and log on just to share: http://xkcd.com/322/ |
| 18:56.25 | Ellipsis | O.o |
| 18:56.35 | Stanzilla2 | ololol |
| 18:56.37 | Ellipsis | except that I read that when it was posted |
| 18:56.43 | Ellipsis | even though I had like 6 people link it to me >_> |
| 18:56.54 | Mudkips | >.> |
| 18:56.55 | [Ammo] | that picture has no relevance seeing the recent attention whoring displayed by Ellipsis |
| 18:56.58 | Mudkips | no girls on the internet |
| 18:56.58 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 18:57.00 | cncfanatics | Mudkips, don't tell me thats true ? |
| 18:57.03 | Ellipsis | excuse me, [Ammo]? |
| 18:57.03 | Mudkips | bewbs or gtfo |
| 18:57.06 | Amadeo | lol |
| 18:57.07 | cncfanatics | that first screenshot, of elephants |
| 18:57.15 | Mudkips | maybe |
| 18:57.28 | Xinhuan | if you people are bored, try this flash game |
| 18:57.29 | Xinhuan | http://www.2flashgames.com/f/f-The-Impossible-Quiz-4021.htm |
| 18:57.33 | Xinhuan | The Impossible Quiz |
| 18:57.38 | Xinhuan | a lot of trick questions :) |
| 18:57.42 | Xinhuan | but with sensible answers |
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| 18:59.04 | JCinDE | Ellipsis: Yeah I figured you'd probably seen it, but I still laughed and thought of your...er...conversation...with Sole the other day. |
| 18:59.17 | Ellipsis | heh |
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| 19:00.12 | JCinDE | And I'd been meaning to install mIRC here at work anyway. I had been looking for a way to kill the last of that pesky 'productivity' that had been plaguing me here. |
| 19:00.27 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 19:01.44 | Mudkips | The Impossible Quiz frustrates me |
| 19:01.51 | Mudkips | makes me want to do other things |
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| 19:03.23 | Trisorion | Do any of you use avion? |
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| 19:04.32 | Mudkips | what does that do? |
| 19:04.43 | Ellipsis | shiny stuff |
| 19:04.52 | Trisorion | I cant get it to work |
| 19:05.07 | Trisorion | It is supposed to come with some defualt textures, right? |
| 19:05.19 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50535 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: BigWigs: bugfix line 248 for Solarian |
| 19:06.13 | Trisorion | No ideas? |
| 19:07.30 | cncfanatics | http://www.bsnews.org/articles/135 |
| 19:07.31 | cncfanatics | ROFLMAO |
| 19:07.32 | Hjalte | Trisorion: Sorry, doesnt use it. |
| 19:07.41 | sb | bah |
| 19:07.46 | sb | solarian is really easy, wtf :o |
| 19:08.25 | smoke_ | anyone have problems with pitbull's party frames not fading out when players are out of range? |
| 19:08.38 | smoke_ | its working for hostile units on my target/focus but not with friendly units |
| 19:09.32 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50536 10BigWigs/ (Hyjal/Kazrogal.lua SC/Vashj.lua): BigWigs: fix the other modules also |
| 19:09.40 | Mudkips | yeah new solarian is like baron geddon 2.0 |
| 19:09.41 | Mudkips | I like it |
| 19:10.16 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: hmm. that stuff should be in a video somewhere, really... |
| 19:10.16 | Mudkips | one of our locks died too far up in the air to get res'd haha |
| 19:10.26 | Ellipsis | been there XD |
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| 19:11.17 | Towbar | new solarion is pretty easy :) |
| 19:11.45 | Trisorion | ugghhh |
| 19:11.47 | Fisker- | how easy? |
| 19:11.55 | durcyn | baron geddon v1.5 easy. |
| 19:12.02 | durcyn | not even 2.0 |
| 19:12.17 | Fisker- | in contrast to void reaver? |
| 19:12.29 | Fisker- | just as easy? |
| 19:13.02 | Mudkips | if your healers aren't noob |
| 19:13.09 | Fisker- | ok |
| 19:13.13 | Mudkips | we killed her in 2 phase 2's |
| 19:13.19 | Fisker- | what is the tank requirements? |
| 19:13.21 | Mudkips | I think she might have less hp now |
| 19:14.06 | smoke_ | dont even need a tank |
| 19:14.07 | smoke_ | lol |
| 19:14.13 | smoke_ | our warrior runs in with dps gear |
| 19:14.18 | Fisker- | alright |
| 19:14.27 | smoke_ | just make sure your healers heal the target with the missles |
| 19:14.33 | smoke_ | there is a macro that cna help |
| 19:15.37 | Fisker- | what about resistances? |
| 19:15.40 | JCinDE | Avion is neat and I think with a bit of tweaking it could become a raid healer's best friend. |
| 19:15.43 | smoke_ | no resists |
| 19:15.47 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 19:15.49 | smoke_ | just make sure people urn out when they get the debuff |
| 19:15.54 | smoke_ | or your raid dies |
| 19:16.05 | Trisorion | Where could i get help with Avion, I just cant figure this thing out. |
| 19:16.06 | Fisker- | Our guild is having some troubles due to a tank leaving |
| 19:16.16 | JCinDE | try the forum thread on it |
| 19:16.17 | smoke_ | yeah thats bad :( |
| 19:16.25 | smoke_ | my first guild broke up due to MT xfering off |
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| 19:16.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 19:16.51 | Fisker- | well our guild has probably lost 50-60 members the last few months |
| 19:16.56 | smoke_ | wow |
| 19:17.02 | smoke_ | alliance or horde? |
| 19:17.03 | JCinDE | Trisorion: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7381.0 |
| 19:17.05 | Fisker- | Horde |
| 19:17.09 | smoke_ | what server? |
| 19:17.16 | Fisker- | Ravencrest EU |
| 19:17.21 | smoke_ | ah |
| 19:17.44 | Fisker- | it was back in may |
| 19:17.52 | Fisker- | and people said we had bad raid progress |
| 19:17.59 | Fisker- | at that time we were ready to go in SSC |
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| 19:18.17 | smoke_ | yeah my guild had a bad struggle on Kel'thas |
| 19:18.30 | smoke_ | but we overcame it, brought in new recruits and now we're a black temple clearing guild |
| 19:18.31 | Fisker- | But i guess it was all part of their plan |
| 19:18.39 | Trisorion | my server must really suck, our best guild just killed vashj a month ago |
| 19:18.41 | Fisker- | For almost a month i tried getting the raid leaders to put up SSC raids |
| 19:18.51 | Fisker- | but they refused |
| 19:19.07 | Fisker- | So that pretty much makes sense when they wanted to get a few people to start their new guild |
| 19:19.30 | Fisker- | Starving the raiders by denying raid progress and present a solution |
| 19:19.44 | Aens|Superiority | losing 50-60 members is though on the guild identity |
| 19:19.55 | Fisker- | Well we're pretty big guild |
| 19:19.55 | Aens|Superiority | even having half your raid force consist of transfers is tough |
| 19:20.02 | tinyboom | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 19:20.02 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Xinhuan |
| 19:20.09 | smoke_ | no |
| 19:20.09 | durcyn | it's okay, Fisker identifies as a female anyway. he has much bigger identity problems. |
| 19:20.10 | tinyboom | that's for showing me that game |
| 19:20.15 | smoke_ | xfers are sometimes the best to pick up |
| 19:20.18 | Fisker- | oh yeah durcyn |
| 19:20.19 | Fisker- | do want |
| 19:20.25 | durcyn | ^ |
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| 19:20.31 | Aens|Superiority | very few transfers have any charisma at all. Almost every one of them are a purp whore soldier type. |
| 19:20.45 | Ellipsis | hay now |
| 19:20.46 | smoke_ | im server xfer 2x |
| 19:20.56 | smoke_ | im not purp whore |
| 19:21.03 | Aens|Superiority | smoke_: true, for a stop gap solution, but think about why a person may have transfered. |
| 19:21.06 | smoke_ | ive earned my shit man... ive raided, saved dkp |
| 19:21.08 | smoke_ | and the guild brok eup |
| 19:21.18 | smoke_ | lost 800 dkp zero sum guild |
| 19:21.19 | smoke_ | :/ |
| 19:21.23 | Mudkips | my main has been on the same realm since lvl 1 |
| 19:21.27 | Mudkips | I"m proud of that |
| 19:22.18 | smoke_ | i only got like 3 naxx pieces, and some mc/t2 but we were in that guild for long, and i was expecting some loot from naxx before it all of a sudden disbanded heh |
| 19:22.37 | Aens|Superiority | the only transfers that have ever worked out imo, are the ones which transfer with friends. The solos are always very iffy. |
| 19:22.38 | Ellipsis | I've never gotten a single piece of raid loot as a raider |
| 19:22.46 | Ellipsis | only gotten rot as an alt/FF |
| 19:22.56 | Ellipsis | -.- |
| 19:23.20 | Ellipsis | hm, Aens|Superiority has a point |
| 19:23.39 | smoke_ | any of you guys use pitbull unitframes? |
| 19:23.40 | m4rku5 | poor Ellipsis |
| 19:23.46 | Aens|Superiority | smoke_: yes |
| 19:23.48 | Ellipsis | yeah smoke_, a lot of us do |
| 19:24.03 | smoke_ | ok, im stumped, my party frame/friendly unit frames wont fade out when they are out of range |
| 19:24.16 | Josh_Borke | smoke_: disable combat fader |
| 19:24.18 | Aens|Superiority | oh, thats never worked properly for me. |
| 19:24.20 | smoke_ | the range check module is enabled, and i have range checking available in party -> other -> |
| 19:24.22 | CIA-12 | 03charon 07charon * r50537 10Omen/Omen/OmenThreatBar.lua: Omen: use default pullout settings again |
| 19:24.23 | smoke_ | combat fader is disabled |
| 19:25.55 | charon | does anyone use that branch btw? |
| 19:26.33 | vithos | ckknight: me and my friends keep seeing pets do weird damage randomly on parrot |
| 19:26.44 | Ellipsis | known issue |
| 19:27.17 | smoke_ | soo im not the only one with no range checking for friendly units in pitbull? |
| 19:27.28 | smoke_ | is there a mod that will do it for me? |
| 19:27.29 | charon | thought so. well, maybe i'll have all "author (me) asleep" problems fixed by 2009 |
| 19:27.56 | uzaR000 | !c eu magtheridon cloze |
| 19:27.58 | ThraeBot | uzaR000: Cloze, Level 70 Troll Rogue (19/42/0). 9554 HP; 3782 Armour; 1991 AP; 427.800 Melee DPS; 30.44% melee crit; 293 melee hit; 29.26% dodge; 12 resilience;[[ TBR: 1424 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvht9a ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37wegp ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 15:28:05 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:28.24 | Trae | Hey.... anyone here get voice working with WoW and Wine under Linux? |
| 19:28.34 | smoke_ | Trae, with ventrilo? |
| 19:28.42 | smoke_ | trae, it works but the push to talk button feature wont work |
| 19:28.47 | Trae | smoke_, nah with the new bult in voice stuff |
| 19:28.55 | uzaR000 | its not activated |
| 19:29.03 | Trae | uzaR000, it's activated on Doomhammer |
| 19:29.05 | smoke_ | yeah no one can use it yet |
| 19:29.11 | smoke_ | oh damn :/ |
| 19:29.13 | uzaR000 | =) |
| 19:29.16 | Ellipsis | erm, it's activated on a bunch of servers |
| 19:29.16 | Trae | heh |
| 19:29.20 | uzaR000 | Fuck US |
| 19:29.23 | uzaR000 | EU is best ;D |
| 19:29.25 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 19:29.33 | uzaR000 | i dont know jack beep about the us servers |
| 19:29.47 | uzaR000 | i can only tell you that the EU servers will have it after next patch |
| 19:29.53 | Ellipsis | all there is to know is that we just got rolling restarts on a huge list of realms to enable voice |
| 19:29.58 | uzaR000 | Hooray @ getting left behind on all the new stuff =) |
| 19:30.02 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r50538 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:30.02 | CIA-12 | Threat-1.0: |
| 19:30.02 | CIA-12 | - Update zhTW translation. (Thanks DeepVoice) |
| 19:30.03 | Ellipsis | and it's actually working...sorta >_> |
| 19:30.10 | Trae | my server, wasn't on the inital list... has it now |
| 19:30.20 | Trae | Maiev |
| 19:30.26 | m4rku5 | ah we'll still use Teamspeak anyways for raids etc |
| 19:30.31 | Ellipsis | lol ts |
| 19:30.33 | Ellipsis | vent > * |
| 19:30.35 | uzaR000 | we use ventrilo |
| 19:30.40 | Trae | heh |
| 19:30.45 | durcyn | in game is a decent idea |
| 19:30.47 | uzaR000 | !c eu magtheridon epi |
| 19:30.49 | ThraeBot | uzaR000: Epi, Level 70 Troll Rogue (20/41/0). 9044 HP; 3748 Armour; 2093 AP; 450.600 Melee DPS; 32.40% melee crit; 285 melee hit; 28.01% dodge;[[ TBR: 1839 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrf985 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33trfk ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 15:30:57 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:30.51 | Trae | yeah I like Vent better than TS |
| 19:30.59 | uzaR000 | i doubt it will work very will |
| 19:31.00 | durcyn | but it's rather difficult to announce you were just disconnected when you were, you know, just disconnected |
| 19:31.23 | Trae | !c us maiev Juicer |
| 19:31.25 | Trae | lol |
| 19:31.26 | ThraeBot | Trae: Juicer, Level 60 Tauren Druid (0/44/7). 4466 HP; 3679 Mana; 113 mana regen; 93.500 Melee DPS; 4.57% melee crit; 10 melee hit; 26 +heal; 18.93% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +20 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 237 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22sfjv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3caxrd ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 15:31:33 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:31.29 | Ellipsis | durcyn makes an excellent poin |
| 19:31.31 | Ellipsis | t |
| 19:31.55 | m4rku5 | ah |
| 19:31.58 | m4rku5 | no way :P |
| 19:31.59 | m4rku5 | vent sux :D |
| 19:32.04 | m4rku5 | quality is worse |
| 19:32.09 | m4rku5 | and its a TON more load on your server |
| 19:32.18 | durcyn | and i'll give it about six months until blizzard disables voice entirely because someone's 12-year old daughter heard the word 'fuck' |
| 19:32.23 | Ellipsis | lol ru srs |
| 19:32.33 | Ellipsis | durcyn again speaks the truth |
| 19:32.36 | Trae | durcyn, hahaha |
| 19:32.36 | smoke_ | yup |
| 19:32.37 | smoke_ | haha |
| 19:32.40 | Trae | lol |
| 19:32.51 | smoke_ | i know im gonna be talking so much shit when that gets enabled on my server |
| 19:33.05 | Ellipsis | I can't wait to do 5mans now (yeah right) |
| 19:33.08 | _rane | [Ammo]: i had little success at finding the module, any ideas from where to get it? |
| 19:33.08 | NightHawkAtWork | durcyn: it'll either be that, or it'll be disabled in 3 months due to rampant server instability caused by overload from the voip |
| 19:33.09 | Trae | So you'lll just hear random people near you? |
| 19:33.15 | Ellipsis | no |
| 19:33.19 | Ellipsis | it only works in party/raid/bg |
| 19:33.20 | Trae | or only in party |
| 19:33.24 | durcyn | NightHawkAtWork: oh, god, i can't wait until 2.3 |
| 19:33.25 | Trae | ahh ok |
| 19:33.36 | durcyn | NightHawkAtWork: it's bad enough with game servers AND bittorrent at the same time |
| 19:34.02 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 19:34.07 | NightHawkAtWork | heheh |
| 19:34.39 | durcyn | great idea though. "hey, let's use a bandwidth-sucking p2p protocol for patch distribution." "sweet, and we can run it on the auth servers too, it's not like they're doing anything" |
| 19:34.58 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50539 10FlexBar2/ (10 files in 6 dirs): FlexBar2: Fixed several broken slashcommands and fixed a typo in the Attributes.lua file |
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| 19:35.34 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50540 10FlexBar2/OO.lua: FlexBar2: Disabled debuggin |
| 19:35.46 | Towbar | hmmm |
| 19:36.02 | Towbar | people crying at a legitimate implementation of torrent |
| 19:36.18 | Towbar | anyidea how slow it would be if blizzard had to let you DL patches? |
| 19:36.28 | durcyn | no, i like bittorrent just fine |
| 19:36.43 | Ellipsis | I still use the HTTP mirrors |
| 19:36.44 | durcyn | but when you run it on the same infrastructure as your game servers... come on |
| 19:36.48 | Marli | blizzard are poor cant spend money on servers amirite |
| 19:36.54 | Towbar | yea thats a bit silly |
| 19:37.07 | Towbar | blizzard are scarey rich |
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| 19:37.19 | Towbar | look at teh money they have coming in every months |
| 19:37.23 | Towbar | month* |
| 19:37.37 | durcyn | yes, but most of it gets hoovered up by vivendi |
| 19:37.44 | Towbar | suppose |
| 19:37.57 | Towbar | well look at smaller operations like eve |
| 19:38.11 | Towbar | i downloaded the game and it came in solid at 960 k/sec from their servers |
| 19:38.19 | NightHawkAtWork | I really don't think you can just do paper napkin math and just say "blizzard must be rich!". |
| 19:38.29 | Towbar | they make less money and have far more user bandwidth |
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| 19:38.36 | Ellipsis | Blizz must be rich, because they don't care about pleasing their customers |
| 19:38.42 | Ellipsis | QED |
| 19:39.00 | NightHawkAtWork | yet another whinge filled complaint with no real basis in reality. :P |
| 19:39.07 | durcyn | flawless logic. nigh upon vulcan, even. |
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| 19:39.25 | Ellipsis | well if they were that desperate for money you'd think they might do something right |
| 19:39.56 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r50541 10MendWatch/ (MendWatch.lua MendWatch.toc): |
| 19:39.56 | CIA-12 | MendWatch: |
| 19:39.56 | CIA-12 | - Save anchor position correctly since 2.2.0 patch |
| 19:39.56 | CIA-12 | - TOC bump |
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| 19:41.51 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50542 10CartoAce/ (14 files in 14 dirs): CartoAce: What do you mean it's improper to start sentences with because? |
| 19:41.58 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 19:42.07 | Josh_Borke | i hate you Funkeh` |
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| 19:43.09 | Saroz | Ace alternative to DotTimer? |
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| 19:43.38 | Fisker- | i hate you Funkeh` |
| 19:43.42 | Fisker- | bandwagon tiem |
| 19:43.45 | Fisker- | night |
| 19:43.57 | Funkeh` | Saroz: AceDoTimer imo |
| 19:44.32 | Saroz | funnah |
| 19:44.45 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r50543 10Prescription/ (. Prescription.lua Prescription.toc license.txt): |
| 19:44.45 | CIA-12 | Prescription: initial wowace commit |
| 19:44.45 | CIA-12 | - Simple checks of raid consumable usage |
| 19:44.46 | Towbar | dotdotdot if you are a SP is nice |
| 19:44.55 | Kalman| | Thanks. :) |
| 19:45.17 | Kalman| | There's some bugs with it I need to fix, just haven't had a lot of time to track down the origins. :/ |
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| 19:45.57 | Ellipsis | DotDotDot would be nice if it didn't glitch so much >_< |
| 19:46.08 | Kalman| | That'd be one of the bugs I mentioned. :p |
| 19:46.19 | Ellipsis | it is a really good concept though |
| 19:46.22 | Kalman| | Seems like SetTimeLeft doesn't trigger bar redraw if it happens during bar ghosting. |
| 19:46.36 | Ellipsis | which makes refreshing dots gg :P |
| 19:46.51 | Kalman| | Quartz doesn't do fixed time. |
| 19:46.53 | RogueShadow | hmm. It'll be nice when the target identifiers come out. not so much buggy |
| 19:46.54 | Kalman| | Nor does DoTimer. |
| 19:46.59 | Ellipsis | nothing does fixed time >_> |
| 19:47.04 | Funkeh` | It does what I need it to do. |
| 19:47.10 | Funkeh` | Time debuffs |
| 19:47.19 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 19:47.21 | Saroz | so no alternative? |
| 19:47.37 | Kalman| | Saroz: Try out DotDotDot, bearing in mind that it has flaws, and tell me when you find flaws. |
| 19:47.38 | Ellipsis | I appreciate the genius that is DotDotDot, even if nobody else does |
| 19:47.59 | RogueShadow | time to check it out... |
| 19:48.14 | Towbar | i use dotdotdot on my SP all the time with no problems |
| 19:48.17 | RogueShadow | before my cpu starts to get too overheated again... |
| 19:48.41 | Saroz | Kalman|, well I like that DotTimer shows friendly buffs you cast aswell, does DotDotDot do that? |
| 19:48.44 | Josh_Borke | SS of ... or it didn't happen |
| 19:48.58 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r50544 10Prescription/: |
| 19:48.58 | CIA-12 | Prescription: |
| 19:48.58 | CIA-12 | - set up externals |
| 19:49.00 | Ellipsis | Saroz: try ClassTimer, it's a pretty good coverage of everything you need |
| 19:49.06 | Saroz | ok |
| 19:49.07 | Saroz | thx |
| 19:49.11 | Kalman| | Saroz: No, nor will it. Not within desired scope. |
| 19:49.44 | Ellipsis | Josh_Borke: were you referring to me or the addon? |
| 19:49.45 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50545 10FlexBar2/Slashcommands.txt: FlexBar2: Added a slashcommand reference |
| 19:49.57 | Josh_Borke | the addon |
| 19:50.09 | uzaR000 | Who wants to bork me? |
| 19:50.21 | Ellipsis | ~emulate swedish chef |
| 19:50.22 | purl | Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! |
| 19:50.27 | Kalman| | Gimme a second, Josh, I have one somewhere. |
| 19:50.46 | RogueShadow | hrm. DotDotDot is priest only? |
| 19:50.52 | uzaR000 | Anyone plays holy pala raid / arena? |
| 19:51.00 | Kalman| | Priest/lock and you could add other stuff fairly easily. |
| 19:51.11 | RogueShadow | ah. |
| 19:51.11 | Kalman| | I know a warrior who uses it to track Sunder, for whatever reason. |
| 19:51.17 | RogueShadow | Description says priest only basically |
| 19:51.43 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r50546 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:51.43 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 19:51.43 | CIA-12 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 19:52.56 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50547 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 19:52.56 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 19:52.56 | CIA-12 | - Custom display names |
| 19:52.56 | CIA-12 | - fixed bar colours |
| 19:53.30 | Kalman| | Josh_Borke: http://radiationnow.net/wow/ui/july_07_ui.jpg |
| 19:53.38 | Kalman| | The two bars left of the HUD are from DDD. |
| 19:54.05 | Josh_Borke | ok |
| 19:54.11 | Trisorion | Lol this guy is trying to convince me he is ckknight |
| 19:54.17 | Kalman| | Major point of distinction for it is that 1s is the same width on any bar, no matter how long the debuff runs. |
| 19:54.20 | ckknight | ...? |
| 19:54.25 | ckknight | Trisorion: which guy is this? |
| 19:54.35 | Marli | its u |
| 19:54.38 | Trisorion | In game i asked about pitbull in general |
| 19:54.42 | Kalman| | 1s meaning 1 second. That was quite unclear. |
| 19:54.44 | charon | XLoot-0.9.49800\XLoot.lua:550: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink") |
| 19:54.58 | ckknight | tell him that you're talking to the real ckknight on IRC and that I don't appreciate impersonation |
| 19:54.59 | charon | ~seen xuerian |
| 19:55.07 | purl | xuerian <n=core@wireless-216-222-130-182.citizip.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 39d 19h 40m 8s ago, saying: 'what about one of the sites that list what side of the continent the servers are on, among other things?'. |
| 19:55.07 | ckknight | I'm not online currently. |
| 19:55.07 | Kalman| | So the shortest bar is *always* going to run out first, etc. |
| 19:55.16 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok, now i understand |
| 19:55.19 | Josh_Borke | i was confused :-D |
| 19:55.26 | Trisorion | ok i sorted it out |
| 19:55.30 | charon | uh. is he, like, internet dead? |
| 19:55.31 | Trisorion | he appologizes |
| 19:58.33 | phyber | mikma: you did an AceComm update a few days ago. is what what has caused Recount to break spectacularly? |
| 19:59.06 | Josh_Borke | phyber: by mikma you mean mikk? |
| 19:59.14 | phyber | perhaps! |
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| 20:00.21 | sb | BigWigs_SC\Vashj.lua:383: attempt to call method 'UnregisterEvent' (a nil value) |
| 20:01.21 | Kalman| | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 20:01.23 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 74 messages. Is idling for 1h 4m 28s, last said: 'that picture has no relevance seeing the recent attention whoring displayed by Ellipsis '. |
| 20:01.43 | Ellipsis | ...sigh |
| 20:01.53 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50548 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Fixed a bug where buttons would need a reloadui when learning new stances |
| 20:01.53 | Punkie` | rofl |
| 20:01.54 | CIA-12 | 03punkie * r50549 10Demon/core.lua: Demon: Ammo wishes I nailed him as hard as I nailed this bug. |
| 20:02.01 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 20:02.58 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50550 10EnhancedColourPicker/EnhancedColourPicker.lua: EnhancedColourPicker - copy and paste color from _G.CurrentlyCopiedColor instead of _G.EnhCP.savedColor. Incidentally, this also makes it work with LibRockConfig-1.0's color copy/paste. |
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| 20:04.07 | charon | ckknight: is there an easier way to "reset" MT/MTT frames when they get stuck and won't update, other than disabling and re-enabling them? |
| 20:04.26 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 20:05.35 | Ellipsis | yay for ECP/Rock compatibility <3 |
| 20:05.43 | Trisorion | ~antiarc |
| 20:05.43 | purl | antiarc is, like, the author of Sanity, Hemlock, and Omen, and project lead on Threat-1.0, as well as the author of the WoW Armory Tools, found at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ |
| 20:06.18 | Punkie` | ~punkie |
| 20:06.19 | purl | [punkie] awesome and lieks mudkips |
| 20:06.22 | Punkie` | so true |
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| 20:06.33 | Mudkips | o_o |
| 20:06.41 | Punkie` | that was before you existed btw |
| 20:06.43 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 20:06.48 | Punkie` | i like ammo more |
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| 20:07.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+o nymbia] by ChanServ |
| 20:07.13 | Punkie` | and nymbia |
| 20:07.20 | nymbia | no u |
| 20:07.42 | Punkie` | i like myself too :o |
| 20:08.05 | Fisker- | your mother nymbia |
| 20:08.13 | nymbia | :'( |
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| 20:08.26 | Ellipsis | I'll like nymbia when I get my pet casting bar tbh |
| 20:08.27 | Fisker- | :') |
| 20:08.30 | Ellipsis | until then the jury's still out |
| 20:08.34 | Fisker- | i haet nymbia |
| 20:08.36 | nymbia | hehe |
| 20:08.39 | Fisker- | he never made my ticket addon :( |
| 20:08.54 | nymbia | maybe when m wow'ing computer works again |
| 20:09.05 | nymbia | s/ m / my / |
| 20:09.09 | LetheKai | Hey ckknight, are you here? You did Cartographer, correct? |
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| 20:09.37 | Punkie` | pet casting bar?! |
| 20:09.41 | LetheKai | I might be misremembering, I'm awful with names. -_- |
| 20:09.49 | Punkie` | if nymbia does that people will beat him up |
| 20:09.51 | Punkie` | true story |
| 20:09.57 | Fisker- | lets 31108 nymbia |
| 20:10.07 | Punkie` | except Fisker-, because he has weak bones |
| 20:10.09 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 20:10.10 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 20:10.17 | Towbar | lol |
| 20:10.24 | Towbar | ~emo |
| 20:10.25 | purl | /wrists |
| 20:10.29 | Towbar | emo is undefined? |
| 20:10.31 | Ellipsis | I will ~whaleblock if anyone tries to beat nymbia up for my pet cast bar |
| 20:10.32 | Towbar | LOL |
| 20:10.51 | Ellipsis | Towbar: ~emo is mine tyvm :P |
| 20:10.55 | LetheKai | I'll ask here - does anyone here have a mod that reports your quest status to groupmates when you get a quest item/objective, BESIDES QuestAnnouncer? |
| 20:10.58 | Towbar | :) |
| 20:11.07 | durcyn | LetheKai: QuestsFu |
| 20:11.11 | Towbar | ~QQ |
| 20:11.11 | purl | dpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream! |
| 20:11.14 | LetheKai | I'm looking for one that generates the bright yellow message in partial parenthesis in this screenshot: http://www.chronalis.com/images/lethe/example.jpg |
| 20:11.18 | Towbar | haha |
| 20:11.26 | Punkie` | ~literal emo |
| 20:11.26 | purl | "emo" is "<reply> /wrists" |
| 20:11.30 | Punkie` | ~emo |
| 20:11.31 | purl | /wrists |
| 20:11.35 | LetheKai | Do you recognize that one Durcyn? |
| 20:11.53 | Hjalte | LetheKai: Questsfu does that if the other members of your party has questsfu or a compatible addon installed. |
| 20:11.53 | Fisker- | nymbia |
| 20:11.55 | Fisker- | BE AFRAID |
| 20:11.56 | LetheKai | I'm actually trying to get rid of one that I don't want hehe. I don't have QuestsFu. |
| 20:12.00 | Fisker- | Sparta will burn to the ground |
| 20:12.06 | nymbia | :o |
| 20:12.11 | Towbar | ~sparta |
| 20:12.12 | purl | [sparta] built of blasphemy and madness! Could also be: 3D real-time opengl physical modeling package with free source. URL: http://www.cse.psu.edu/~mdl/sparta/ |
| 20:12.12 | Fisker- | oh and you will be relocated to sparta while it burns down |
| 20:12.13 | LetheKai | Hjalte: The message looks like that one? |
| 20:12.14 | Industrial | madness. |
| 20:12.21 | Fisker- | MADNESS?? |
| 20:12.30 | cncfanatics | omg who changes that ? |
| 20:12.30 | Hjalte | LetheKai: Yeah, something like it. |
| 20:12.30 | Industrial | quite |
| 20:12.34 | Fisker- | MADNESS YOU SAY?! |
| 20:12.40 | Industrial | yessir |
| 20:12.41 | cncfanatics | THIS IS SPARTAAAA |
| 20:12.43 | Fisker- | SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 20:12.46 | Industrial | =D |
| 20:12.59 | Towbar | what have I done? |
| 20:13.30 | tinyboom | ckknight: any fix to the instance-notes/maps in Carto incoming soon, if there is anything to fix? :p |
| 20:13.30 | LetheKai | This is weird, I don't have QuestsFu, but I'm seeing a msg from QuestAnnouncer AND from some other quest mod. I perma-group with 2 guys. One of them was showing double quest messages since we started playing, the other was not UNTIL he copied my interface folder a few days ago. |
| 20:13.51 | ckknight | tinyboom: I could fix it, but I'm reluctant |
| 20:14.06 | LetheKai | So it's got to be another mod that requires both parties to have it to see the quest msg. I wanted to ask if any of the Cartographer quest addons do that. |
| 20:14.19 | Towbar | tinyboom: ckknight would not remove the border for me from rock :( |
| 20:14.28 | Towbar | i QQ'd |
| 20:14.31 | ckknight | Towbar: completely separate |
| 20:14.36 | Industrial | LetheKai: so unload addons 50/50 and see if it happens again |
| 20:14.48 | Towbar | i really wish I could code |
| 20:14.55 | Towbar | I am a networking specialist irl |
| 20:15.08 | Towbar | and i cannot code to save my life in object orientated languages |
| 20:15.12 | ckknight | tinyboom: if I fix it, people will just port it to CartoAce, which I don't really want to happen |
| 20:15.16 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: JasonQuest perhaps? |
| 20:15.23 | Industrial | LetheKai: thats 10x faster (at least) then asking on the internet and waiting fomr someoneone else to figure it out for you, in my experience. |
| 20:15.32 | LetheKai | It's kind of hard to test since it requires one of my buddies to be in-group and getting a quest item/objective hehe. I've been trying for daaaays. I don't have any quest mods except QuestAnnounce and Cartographer QuestInfo. |
| 20:15.47 | QuantumDelta | What's up with these Carto/FubarAce type addons? |
| 20:15.56 | Ellipsis | ~edrama |
| 20:15.58 | Industrial | QuantumDelta: check the forum announcements |
| 20:16.01 | Ellipsis | ooh, someone needs to add that one |
| 20:16.10 | ckknight | Ellipsis: you have a task |
| 20:16.13 | Ellipsis | o rly |
| 20:16.22 | Industrial | a task you say |
| 20:16.25 | ckknight | add ~edrama |
| 20:16.43 | Ellipsis | purl, edrama is <reply> eDrama is for eTards! |
| 20:16.43 | purl | Ellipsis: okay |
| 20:16.47 | LetheKai | I figured if I asked the mod community *someone* would recognize it. It's pretty distinctive text. =( Guess nobody here has that mod. |
| 20:16.52 | Ellipsis | ckknight: what's my reward? =] |
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| 20:17.01 | tinyboom | ckknight: mkay, why is that? I am using the rock version... isn't that the one that should be working? :p |
| 20:17.05 | ckknight | one night with the c-man |
| 20:17.10 | Ellipsis | hawt |
| 20:17.12 | ckknight | tinyboom: yes, that's the idea |
| 20:17.13 | Ellipsis | my place or yours? |
| 20:17.40 | ckknight | bah, Ellipsis, I can't handle this commitment |
| 20:17.44 | ckknight | you're smothering me |
| 20:17.44 | Fisker- | nymbia |
| 20:17.49 | Fisker- | i raise my ascii middlefinger |
| 20:17.54 | ckknight | tinyboom: I'll fix it eventually |
| 20:17.55 | Fisker- | is this awesome [Y/n]: |
| 20:17.58 | Ellipsis | ckknight: wait, wait, didn't we go through this like...yesterday? |
| 20:18.12 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 20:18.13 | nymbia | Y |
| 20:18.20 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 20:18.26 | Fisker- | now you know what'll happen!1 |
| 20:18.32 | Fisker- | sleep tiemz |
| 20:18.38 | nymbia | lol |
| 20:19.06 | uzaR000 | I will pay sex for addons! |
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| 20:19.14 | Ellipsis | uzaR000, that doesn't work as well as you'd think =[ |
| 20:19.18 | Kalman| | uzaR000: You any good? |
| 20:19.23 | uzaR000 | I am really good |
| 20:19.28 | uzaR000 | Female belf pala ;) |
| 20:19.28 | ckknight | geography is a big impediment |
| 20:19.29 | uzaR000 | skinny |
| 20:19.34 | Kalman| | Then I can't help you. I am very bad at addons. |
| 20:19.39 | Ellipsis | geography can be conquered |
| 20:19.39 | uzaR000 | lol |
| 20:19.58 | Hjalte | LetheKai: That quest you compare with, is that ace? if so, check if it has a quest library. Forgot the exact name. |
| 20:20.08 | Ellipsis | Quixote? |
| 20:20.16 | uzaR000 | Geography is easily conquered with an epic flying mount!!!!!!! |
| 20:20.23 | Ellipsis | -flying |
| 20:20.25 | Ellipsis | ;) |
| 20:20.38 | Ellipsis | sorry, I just don't go for the whole airplane bathroom thing. way too tiny. |
| 20:21.11 | uzaR000 | ok.. snakes on a mount |
| 20:22.20 | LetheKai | Hjalte: I'm sorry, what do you mean? You referring to QuestAnnouncer? |
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| 20:22.34 | Hjalte | LetheKai: Yes, i am. Does it include Quixote? |
| 20:22.43 | LetheKai | I don't think so, but I'll check. |
| 20:23.10 | LetheKai | Quixote is here. Don't know how I got it! |
| 20:23.27 | Hjalte | In your addons folder you mean? |
| 20:23.34 | LetheKai | I'm fairly sure QuestAnnouncer didn't have any folders but QuestAnnouncer in the zip, but again could be wrong. |
| 20:23.35 | LetheKai | Yes. |
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| 20:24.05 | Hjalte | Quixote could have been embedded - Included in the QuestAnnouncer folder. |
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| 20:25.04 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50551 10Scrooge/Scrooge.lua: |
| 20:25.04 | CIA-12 | Scrooge: |
| 20:25.04 | CIA-12 | * Added OpenDonationFrame killing |
| 20:25.05 | CIA-12 | * Comments |
| 20:25.20 | LetheKai | I just checked the QA zip, no Quixote there, but it's very possible I got it from some other mod. |
| 20:25.34 | LetheKai | I take it Quixote is some kind of quest announcing mod or library or database or something? Hehe. |
| 20:26.33 | Antiarc | So guys. Moral dillema here. |
| 20:26.40 | genetik- | do it |
| 20:26.44 | genetik- | heh |
| 20:26.45 | Ellipsis | peanut butter or jelly? |
| 20:26.46 | Antiarc | Kenco's having problems detecting FD resist in KTM. |
| 20:26.51 | Ellipsis | ooh |
| 20:26.52 | genetik- | hehe |
| 20:26.53 | Ellipsis | youch |
| 20:26.58 | Antiarc | Do I tell him how to very simply fix the problem? |
| 20:27.03 | Codayus | Ooh |
| 20:27.07 | Ellipsis | this is a conundrum |
| 20:27.07 | Codayus | That is a moral dilemna. |
| 20:27.09 | Antiarc | Or do I let him continue to have angry hunter-users? |
| 20:27.19 | Ellipsis | well, let's see |
| 20:27.20 | Josh_Borke | tell him |
| 20:27.23 | Ellipsis | how many classes are not already angry with him? |
| 20:27.35 | Codayus | I'd be tempted to say tell him. |
| 20:27.36 | Antiarc | Josh_Borke: I'm still kinda stinging from the last time I tried to help him, though. |
| 20:27.49 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure I'm the last person in the world he wants tips from. |
| 20:27.50 | Codayus | Not like it'll save his mod anyhow, and there's at least a 50% chance he'll ignore you. |
| 20:27.53 | Mudkips | Solution is |
| 20:27.54 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: yea, but you come out looking a lot better |
| 20:27.56 | Industrial | ooo |
| 20:27.58 | Hjalte | Antiarc, he will probably look at how Omen is doing it sooner or later. |
| 20:27.59 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8958.0 |
| 20:28.00 | LetheKai | OMG I think you found it Hjalte! You are my hero/heroine! OMG I have been stalking this thing for days. I DEFINITELY didn't download Quixote (directly) or know what it was. |
| 20:28.05 | Mudkips | In & Out double double animal fries |
| 20:28.22 | Codayus | Oooh, and if he DOES take your suggestion and doesn't at least thank you, you could make a stink over that. |
| 20:28.32 | Antiarc | Nah, I wouldn't make a stink over it. |
| 20:28.36 | Codayus | Awww |
| 20:28.39 | Codayus | :-) |
| 20:28.40 | Antiarc | Well, here's the thing - |
| 20:28.46 | Antiarc | See, my fix involves event handling |
| 20:28.51 | Josh_Borke | oh |
| 20:28.53 | Josh_Borke | that's bad |
| 20:28.56 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 20:28.57 | Ellipsis | gg |
| 20:28.58 | Antiarc | Which would mean abandoning polling for UnitIsFeignDeath() every 0.5 seconds |
| 20:29.14 | Codayus | hmm |
| 20:29.16 | Shadowed | Somehow, the fact that you had the 50 Ace trolls didn't help the fact that he didn't listen |
| 20:29.20 | Josh_Borke | could you do something like, check for the event and add a dirty flag? |
| 20:29.30 | Antiarc | That's basically what Omen does, Josh_Borke |
| 20:29.48 | Antiarc | It sets a "primed" flag after UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCESSFUL for FD |
| 20:29.49 | Mudkips | okay okay i got a story from kael last night |
| 20:29.58 | Antiarc | Then it just commits the wipe after a period of time of no resists |
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| 20:30.01 | Ellipsis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/1155341618648.jpg |
| 20:30.04 | Ellipsis | that's all I have to say |
| 20:30.12 | Mudkips | my GM said wow deadlybossmods does this thing with timer bars and it gets bigger when its near end |
| 20:30.25 | Mudkips | a few of us said "big wigs does that" |
| 20:30.30 | Hjalte | LetheKai: Umm, no problem, hope you found out something. |
| 20:30.32 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: i would say try getting some help on making the message as innocent as possible |
| 20:30.33 | Mudkips | and he said we sounded like mac people |
| 20:30.42 | Xinhuan | Mudkips: cool story! |
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| 20:30.52 | Corgan | I was on the edge of my seat |
| 20:30.59 | Ellipsis | I almost didn't fall asleep |
| 20:31.05 | NightHawkAtWork | I almost cared. |
| 20:31.08 | Funkeh` | Mudkips: lol yeah dbm ripped the idea |
| 20:31.10 | Mudkips | 8D |
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| 20:31.18 | Funkeh` | like most of other stuff it has |
| 20:31.37 | Mudkips | I guess you had to be there |
| 20:31.40 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8830.new#new |
| 20:31.55 | Mudkips | he thought the enhanced timer bars were really cool |
| 20:31.58 | Antiarc | Oh dear god. |
| 20:32.14 | Mudkips | then we broke the news to him haha |
| 20:32.19 | Antiarc | His 20.5a fix scans the player's buffs every 0.5 sec to see if there's a FD buff. |
| 20:32.25 | Ellipsis | Industrial, have my babies plzs |
| 20:32.29 | Xinhuan | r-o-f-l |
| 20:32.31 | Antiarc | for x = 1, 40 do buffname = UnitBuff("player", x) ... |
| 20:32.32 | Codayus | On second thought. |
| 20:32.36 | Antiarc | *cry* |
| 20:32.41 | Ellipsis | jesus |
| 20:32.41 | Codayus | MAybe it'd be best to just let KTM die a painful death. |
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| 20:32.46 | Ellipsis | my previous link still applies, Antiarc |
| 20:33.18 | Industrial | Ellipsis: um sure, but you live like - way over there :P. Come live over here :O! |
| 20:33.23 | Ellipsis | ok |
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| 20:33.44 | LetheKai | I'm so excited. >.< Really, thank you again Hjalte. Yes, I'm a nerd to be this excited, but it was reeeally annoying. |
| 20:34.13 | Codayus | Antiarc: Does he scan non-hunters for the buff too? |
| 20:34.23 | t00sas | someone from here tryed to export char profile from the game with addon? I have exported CharacterProfiler.lua file and have no idea what to do with it... I want to host it to the web, but how?... :\ |
| 20:34.29 | ckknight | LetheKai: *gasp* nerds aren't welcome here |
| 20:34.35 | Antiarc | Codayus: No, but the callback is run for non-hunters :( |
| 20:34.37 | ckknight | we're all cool kids |
| 20:34.38 | LetheKai | lol. =( |
| 20:34.39 | Fisker- | oh u nymbia |
| 20:34.40 | t00sas | i mean to export armory |
| 20:34.42 | Fisker- | you are so dreamy nymbia |
| 20:35.01 | Ellipsis | I'm one of the cool kids now? |
| 20:35.04 | Ellipsis | aww thanks ckknight <3 |
| 20:35.10 | Antiarc | http://ace.pastey.net/74692 |
| 20:35.26 | LetheKai | But I'm extra-nerdy. Excited IRL to have gotten rid of this extra quest-spam. XD |
| 20:35.46 | ckknight | Ellipsis: you're not popular, you're just easy |
| 20:35.47 | Ellipsis | I think I just died a little inside |
| 20:35.48 | ckknight | sorry |
| 20:35.55 | Ellipsis | ckknight: same thing in my world |
| 20:36.06 | orionshock | i take it that PNG isn't a valid pic format for wow eh? |
| 20:36.18 | Ellipsis | ...you mean for screenshots or textures? |
| 20:36.19 | ckknight | tga or blp only |
| 20:36.33 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: you check for UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED right? |
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| 20:37.00 | Sinaloit | ckknight: any news on the instance maps problems? |
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| 20:37.18 | Antiarc | Josh_Borke: Yes. |
| 20:37.48 | ckknight | Sinaloit: I don't want to release the fix and then have someone else rip me off |
| 20:37.50 | t00sas | so anybody knows how to export character armory from the game using addons? |
| 20:37.55 | Antiarc | Prime on SUCCEEDED, then commit the change some period of time later if no resist message has been found in that time period |
| 20:37.59 | orionshock | ckknight: fubarplugin 3 - the icon path, what's it relivite to? |
| 20:38.07 | Ellipsis | t00sas: why would you do that? |
| 20:38.13 | ckknight | orionshock: the WoW directory |
| 20:38.15 | t00sas | i want to host it |
| 20:38.17 | Fisker- | nymbia i want you |
| 20:38.18 | Regrown | Can't figure out how to fix Onebag after the patch. It pops up with the error "Interface/FrameXML/CountainerFrame.Lua:602: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value)" everytime when I roll over an item. |
| 20:38.22 | ckknight | orionshock: so [[Interface\AddOns\MyAddon\icon] |
| 20:38.24 | ckknight | ] |
| 20:38.32 | elusif | ckknight will cart only display notes i've made by meeting a trainer? |
| 20:38.32 | orionshock | ok that's what i was looking for |
| 20:38.38 | elusif | and npcs i meet |
| 20:38.41 | orionshock | w/b ingame icons? |
| 20:38.42 | ckknight | elusif: no idea |
| 20:38.45 | Ominous | ckknight: but isnt that always gonna be a problem |
| 20:38.45 | Regrown | Can anyone help me with onebag? :c |
| 20:38.47 | ckknight | that's handled by a module |
| 20:38.50 | Industrial | Regrown: only addon that's loaded? |
| 20:38.51 | ckknight | orionshock: you can do that |
| 20:38.57 | elusif | k ty |
| 20:39.01 | ckknight | orionshock: [[Interface\Icons\INV_Misc_01]] |
| 20:39.02 | Regrown | with onebank and oneview |
| 20:39.03 | t00sas | i have exported CharacterProfiler.lua file and i have no idea what to do with it to host my armory. |
| 20:39.06 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 20:39.10 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: imo, add a little bit of code ala http://ace.pastey.net/74693 as a potential fix for him |
| 20:39.18 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: or, if you want, i can post it |
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| 20:40.00 | Antiarc | That's not gonna fix it |
| 20:40.20 | Antiarc | The solution is something like so: http://ace.pastey.net/74694 |
| 20:40.24 | ZealotOnAStick | ~seen Punkie` |
| 20:40.26 | purl | punkie` is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 115 messages. Is idling for 28m 56s, last said: '~emo'. |
| 20:40.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Punkie`: ping |
| 20:40.39 | Towbar | kael'thas with 7 new people is not nice :( |
| 20:40.45 | LetheKai | =o |
| 20:40.45 | Antiarc | That's Ace stuff though |
| 20:40.52 | Antiarc | So there would have to be extra legwork |
| 20:41.13 | Towbar | 10/01/07 09:36:00, Your Eviscerate crits Kael'thas Sunstrider for 3995 |
| 20:41.15 | Towbar | lol |
| 20:41.18 | Josh_Borke | i think it could be fit into his |
| 20:41.24 | Josh_Borke | let me work on it |
| 20:41.29 | Antiarc | It could, he'd just have to implement one-shot timers |
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| 20:42.09 | Mudkips | I experienced the thalanar bug last night :( |
| 20:42.14 | Xinhuan | why are we discussing how to fix someone else's addon that has no interest in getting help? :) |
| 20:42.14 | Towbar | its nice the way top score fu ignores curator and kael etc etc |
| 20:42.23 | Mudkips | he punted me behind a statue and I got ported then smacked dead |
| 20:42.24 | Towbar | so you only get real top scores |
| 20:42.24 | Sinaloit | ckknight: I'm confused, you have a fix but don't want to implement it due to concern someone else will rip it off? |
| 20:42.35 | Kalman| | Xinhuan: Because some of us raid with KTM users and would like it to be at least sorta functional. |
| 20:42.54 | Xinhuan | Kalman|: you could get them to switch to Omen |
| 20:42.55 | Towbar | we had that problem too |
| 20:43.00 | Towbar | want to hear the solution? |
| 20:43.02 | Antiarc | KTM not working screws the users more than Kenco |
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| 20:43.07 | Antiarc | And threat meters really need to work |
| 20:43.10 | Towbar | no dkp if you dont have omen |
| 20:43.11 | Mudkips | err Thaladred** |
| 20:43.17 | Towbar | worked really effectively |
| 20:43.21 | Kalman| | Xinhuan: If I could get them to switch, I would have. |
| 20:43.32 | Xinhuan | try Towbar's solution |
| 20:43.36 | Towbar | works a treat |
| 20:43.41 | Tem | *sigh* |
| 20:43.47 | Tem | l2threatcontrolyourself |
| 20:43.54 | Tem | threat meters are a crutch |
| 20:43.58 | Towbar | lies |
| 20:43.59 | Mudkips | no they are not |
| 20:44.03 | Towbar | thats silly |
| 20:44.06 | Xinhuan | i don't even bother, its --impossible-- to pull aggro as arcane spec ;p |
| 20:44.09 | Mudkips | they remove fear of pulling aggro when going all out |
| 20:44.13 | Antiarc | Threat meters let me perform at absolute peak performance |
| 20:44.14 | Xinhuan | unless the mob is arcane-weak |
| 20:44.25 | Mudkips | knowing that you aren't close to main tank aggro pushes dps to the limit |
| 20:44.26 | Ellipsis | false sense of security imo |
| 20:44.35 | Ackis | damn, I'm a mofo genius *does happy dance* frames are finally starting to look half decent |
| 20:44.37 | Fisker- | Antiarc isn't nymbia dreamy? |
| 20:44.44 | Towbar | and for 1300 spell dmg warlocks sould shatter at teh right time is critical |
| 20:44.47 | Antiarc | Fisker-: Dreamy like the Emerald Dream! |
| 20:44.50 | Towbar | same for me with vanish |
| 20:44.54 | LetheKai|AFK | Ooo did Rock's GUI thing get updated? Looks neat! |
| 20:45.06 | Xinhuan | its just not possible to pull aggro as arcane, -40% from talents, -30% from salvation = -56% ;p |
| 20:45.10 | Ellipsis | no, you're just imagining that it looks completely different LetheKai|AFK |
| 20:45.10 | Towbar | yea rock is maturing nicely imo |
| 20:45.13 | Mudkips | if only cower was an effective threat dump |
| 20:45.17 | Mudkips | but it's not :( |
| 20:45.26 | Xinhuan | -58% i mean |
| 20:45.27 | LetheKai|AFK | Ellipsis: You're probably right. I see things a lot. =( |
| 20:45.31 | Towbar | i try not to use fient, 2 feints = 1 sinister wased |
| 20:45.38 | Towbar | wasted* |
| 20:45.55 | Codayus | On a fight like VR, a threat meter is more than a crutch. I mean, it's one thing to say "oh, I know how much threat I'm doing", but how the hell are you supposed to know how many times the tank dodges a knockback? |
| 20:45.56 | Antiarc | I tend to use feint after the first couple of swings opening on a mob, but not beyond that. |
| 20:46.00 | Mudkips | rogues always get salv anyway |
| 20:46.04 | Xinhuan | however, i'm going to agree Threat meters are useful on certain fights |
| 20:46.05 | Antiarc | Just because it tends to preclude sword spec/windfury problems. |
| 20:46.05 | Towbar | antiarc: same |
| 20:46.14 | Mudkips | I can't get 15 min salv since our main tank is a druid |
| 20:46.22 | Xinhuan | for example, if the tank gets Toyed on kael, he won't have full aggro, then you have to watch it |
| 20:46.26 | Antiarc | Mudkips: Tell your druid to lern2damnation? |
| 20:46.27 | Mudkips | so I have to ask for it every-single-time |
| 20:46.28 | Towbar | you can get a 10 min sinlge buff now |
| 20:46.30 | Xinhuan | the advisor that is |
| 20:46.33 | Xinhuan | in phase 1 |
| 20:46.43 | Antiarc | We just stop DPS if a tank gets toyed |
| 20:46.44 | Codayus | Any fight where tank threat varies wildly is painful without a meter... |
| 20:46.52 | Antiarc | Since we need the tank un-toyed for p2 |
| 20:47.04 | Towbar | same, and we used to use telonicus toys for pally rebuffs and JoW for mana regen |
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| 20:47.34 | Xinhuan | one fight you absolutely don't need a threat meter for - shade of akama ;p |
| 20:47.53 | Towbar | cant wait to try :) |
| 20:48.05 | Mudkips | Xinhuan, phase 1 reliquary is sexier |
| 20:48.21 | Ackis | shade of akama isn't a fight |
| 20:48.29 | Ackis | it's free loot |
| 20:48.35 | Towbar | the new lootreaver? |
| 20:48.40 | Towbar | voidreaver* |
| 20:48.45 | Ackis | easier |
| 20:48.51 | Xinhuan | even easier than that lol |
| 20:48.56 | Ackis | i can go afk on akama and not die |
| 20:48.56 | orionshock | im having a fuck of a time finding this icon.... |
| 20:48.57 | Towbar | lol seriously, we 21 manned him for a laught on sunday |
| 20:49.01 | Towbar | laugh* |
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| 20:49.31 | Mudkips | same deal with loot reaver |
| 20:49.36 | Chompers | that 'no dkp unless you have omen' is a great idea |
| 20:49.37 | Mudkips | akama trash is harder than the boss |
| 20:49.40 | ZealotOnAStick | After Kael, nothing in BT really seems that tough. |
| 20:49.50 | Chompers | i've got guildies with omen versions months old |
| 20:49.50 | Mudkips | yeah |
| 20:49.56 | Mudkips | Kael is a huge achievement |
| 20:50.01 | Fisker- | DESTROY THEM CHOMPERS |
| 20:50.07 | Mudkips | if you can do Kael, you can do archimonde no problem |
| 20:50.07 | Chompers | they won't listen! |
| 20:50.08 | Xinhuan | do a version check |
| 20:50.08 | Towbar | i really cannot understand why people would not use WAU |
| 20:50.09 | Xinhuan | its easy |
| 20:50.12 | Fisker- | ANNIHILATE THEM |
| 20:50.15 | Towbar | its beyond me |
| 20:50.16 | orionshock | the name on wowWiki is Ability_Druid_Dreamstate, so the in game reference would be : [[Interface\\Icons\\Ability\\Druid_Dreamstate]] ? |
| 20:50.18 | Ackis | bloodboil and past in BT are a bit difficult |
| 20:50.31 | Xinhuan | orionshock: no |
| 20:50.40 | Antiarc | orionshock: Just use the Blizzard UI toolkit to extract the UI art and check it yourself :) |
| 20:50.43 | Xinhuan | orionshock: "Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Druid_Dreamstate" |
| 20:50.43 | Chompers | "i dont wanna use wau, im too lazy" |
| 20:50.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Bloodboil's not difficult, just requires some coordination, and people not standing with their backs against the wall. |
| 20:50.50 | Chompers | that's what a rogue said to me |
| 20:50.54 | Elfire | hi, i'm setting up my old rogue on Pitbull, but I can't see my combo points. They show up on the target frame, but not on the player frame. In the config there's no 'combo' page under 'player/texts'. Is this a known problem? Is there an easy fix? |
| 20:50.55 | Towbar | rofl |
| 20:51.00 | Ellipsis | how can you be too lazy for WAU? |
| 20:51.00 | Mudkips | nerfed mother shahraz is easy |
| 20:51.05 | Chompers | exactly |
| 20:51.06 | Towbar | thats hilarious |
| 20:51.06 | Ackis | Zealot, try doing bloodboil as a healer with 1 shadowpriest in the raid... it's not easy |
| 20:51.11 | Mudkips | and so is loot council |
| 20:51.17 | ckknight | bbiab |
| 20:51.17 | Chompers | and he wonders why he over aggoes EVERY fight and dies |
| 20:51.44 | Ellipsis | Elfire: if you want them on your player frame, create a custom text for it |
| 20:51.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Ackis: guild only have 1 SP, or leaders are dumb? |
| 20:51.48 | Elfire | Ellipsis: but surely on my player frame is the sort of normal place for them? |
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| 20:52.07 | Ellipsis | *shrug* most people use target I think |
| 20:52.18 | Ackis | Zealot: we had 2, one ninja transfered last week so the guild only has 1 now |
| 20:52.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh. We stock 3, almost never have less than 2 in the raid. |
| 20:52.43 | Elfire | Ellipsis: oh i see, so it's my combo points but on the target's portrait |
| 20:52.50 | Xinhuan | my guild has 4 shadow priests just because we love them so much ;p |
| 20:52.53 | Ackis | I've been in a raid once where we had 3... it was a good day |
| 20:52.54 | Industrial | any forum admin ere? |
| 20:53.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Industrial: what's up? |
| 20:53.20 | Industrial | my post could be deleted; http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8830.msg145198#msg145198 |
| 20:53.34 | Ellipsis | hehe |
| 20:53.41 | Ellipsis | I was wondering when you'd notice, Industrial |
| 20:53.45 | Industrial | >_< |
| 20:53.57 | ZealotOnAStick | done |
| 20:53.59 | Industrial | ta |
| 20:54.04 | Ellipsis | am I a bad person for not saying something? |
| 20:54.26 | ZealotOnAStick | yes, but that's ok, we like bad girls. |
| 20:54.42 | Industrial | This naughty; |-----#---| |
| 20:54.43 | Mudkips | o.o |
| 20:54.58 | Ellipsis | Industrial: aww, I wanna be naughtier! |
| 20:55.02 | Ellipsis | will you help? ;) |
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| 20:55.11 | Fisker- | dreamy nymbia is dreaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 20:55.24 | Chompers | he's such a dreamboat |
| 20:55.32 | Industrial | Ellipsis: only if you bring a friend :o! |
| 20:55.33 | JCinDE | sylvanaar: You there? Got a prat error... http://pastey.net/74695 |
| 20:55.35 | nymbia | you know it |
| 20:55.45 | Industrial | Ellipsis: well maybe not only then |
| 20:55.46 | Industrial | ;D |
| 20:56.04 | sylvanaar | JCinDE ask Fin |
| 20:56.12 | Fisker- | now it be sleep tiem |
| 20:56.22 | JCinDE | heh ok |
| 20:56.26 | JCinDE | Fin: You there? Got a prat error... http://pastey.net/74695 |
| 20:56.29 | JCinDE | ^_^ |
| 20:56.35 | Ellipsis | Industrial: I know I'm ugly, but seriously...you really need another person involved to keep you interested? :( |
| 20:57.25 | Industrial | ask any guy; whats better then one girl? hell say two girls! right Fisker- ? |
| 20:57.26 | nymbia | that's harsh |
| 20:57.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone know if Punkie`s Demon is supposed to replace pDebuffList, or are they different things altogether? |
| 20:57.45 | Ackis | Industrial, I thought the answer was "a girl who doesn't talk"? |
| 20:57.51 | Industrial | HO SHI- |
| 20:58.01 | Industrial | no comment. |
| 20:58.44 | Ellipsis | no comment from me either, since apparently that's what's expected |
| 20:59.02 | Ackis | lol |
| 20:59.02 | Codayus | ZealotOnAStick: Replace; Demon is essentially pDebuffList2 |
| 20:59.11 | Codayus | Rewritten to be more flexible. |
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| 21:04.57 | Mudkips | ( Industrial ) ask any guy; whats better then one girl? hell say two girls! |
| 21:04.58 | Mudkips | no way |
| 21:05.15 | Mudkips | exchange 2nd girl and give a mute button, you got a winner there |
| 21:05.16 | Megalon | one girl, tentacles and popcorn? |
| 21:05.31 | Ellipsis | .... |
| 21:05.41 | Ackis | mmmm popcorn |
| 21:05.47 | Ellipsis | x.x |
| 21:06.00 | Industrial | whos the crazy mofo now >_O |
| 21:06.09 | Mudkips | you heard about that woman who ran over her own leg at a mc'dees drive thru? |
| 21:06.13 | Chompers | mmm tentacles |
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| 21:06.22 | Mudkips | err *legs |
| 21:06.25 | Legorol | Does Omen have "bossmod" type abilities, in other words adjusting threat based on specific boss emotes/phase transitions etc. |
| 21:06.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes. |
| 21:07.14 | Legorol | which file are the boss data contained in that i should poke at? |
| 21:07.15 | Ackis | is that omen or threat? |
| 21:07.24 | charon | it's in threat. omen is just eye candy |
| 21:07.26 | Legorol | i asked Omen specifically, i know KTM has such features |
| 21:07.27 | Antiarc | Look under NPCModules, Legorol |
| 21:07.31 | Legorol | ok thanks |
| 21:07.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Err. Technically Threat-1.0 |
| 21:07.39 | Legorol | understood |
| 21:07.43 | charon | Antiarc: more impossible screenshots upcoming, gotta tank VR though, brb |
| 21:08.42 | Mindrila | I have a problem, I do not receive an activation email for my forum account, am I doing something wrong? |
| 21:09.05 | Mudkips | try not touching yourself at night so much |
| 21:09.20 | Ackis | anyone able to take a look at my scroll bar code (http://ace.pastey.net/74696) and possibly give me a heads up as to why it's not showing up |
| 21:09.26 | Ackis | mudkips, that only makes you go blind |
| 21:09.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Mindrila, what login name did you sign up with? |
| 21:09.49 | Mindrila | Mindrila |
| 21:10.18 | Industrial | and password? |
| 21:10.20 | Legorol | Antiarc: ok thanks, that's pretty much what i was looking for, |
| 21:10.23 | Industrial | *cough* |
| 21:10.29 | Legorol | however I notice there isn't a module for Malchezaar |
| 21:10.41 | Mudkips | prince... |
| 21:10.43 | Ackis | because you have to fight him AND his legions |
| 21:10.48 | Mudkips | haha |
| 21:10.48 | Mindrila | nice try Industrial :P |
| 21:10.56 | Industrial | darn :D |
| 21:11.01 | Legorol | what is the source of the info for the NPC modules? |
| 21:11.03 | Ackis | at least his son is not powerful |
| 21:11.08 | Antiarc | There aren't any threat clears or reductions on Malchezaar |
| 21:11.10 | Legorol | in other words, who decides and how what functionality should go in them? |
| 21:11.19 | Legorol | Antiarc: yes there are, and that's exactly my problem |
| 21:11.27 | Mudkips | -_- |
| 21:11.27 | ZealotOnAStick | bernhardweller? |
| 21:11.28 | Antiarc | What's the threat reduction ability? |
| 21:11.32 | Legorol | both KTM (which doesn't have prince data either) and Omen have no module for Malch |
| 21:11.37 | Antiarc | The shadow nova isn't a reduction |
| 21:11.43 | Mindrila | correct |
| 21:11.45 | Legorol | something funny happens with threat when entering phase 2 |
| 21:11.59 | Ackis | Antiarc, the shadow nova reduces the threat of nubby melee who die to it |
| 21:12.01 | Antiarc | I've been doing Prince for months and have never seen anything to suggest that |
| 21:12.04 | Legorol | i don't know the exact details, in fact i'd love to find out (which is why i checked KTM and Omen), but our current best theory is that he reduces MT threat by fixed amount |
| 21:12.07 | ZealotOnAStick | gimme a moment, trying to get it to resend. |
| 21:12.12 | Codayus | Phase 2? That seems unlikely. Evidence? |
| 21:12.16 | Mindrila | thank you |
| 21:12.17 | Legorol | we have problems in that people who are below the MT pull threat into phase 2 transition |
| 21:12.18 | Legorol | very often |
| 21:12.27 | Mudkips | haha |
| 21:12.29 | Legorol | bah, that got muddled up |
| 21:12.37 | Mindrila | never had such problems legorol |
| 21:12.37 | Codayus | I've never heard of a tank losing aggro at the p2 transition...hm. |
| 21:12.42 | Mudkips | in b4 l2p |
| 21:12.43 | Legorol | ok we have problems in that people who are below the MT in threat going into phase 2, they pull aggro |
| 21:12.49 | Legorol | we have it occur very often |
| 21:12.50 | Antiarc | Well, you could write a boss module for the fight easily enough |
| 21:12.56 | Legorol | especially when the gap is very small |
| 21:13.02 | Mindrila | uses the tank ktm an omen? |
| 21:13.08 | Mindrila | *and |
| 21:13.09 | Legorol | we tried both |
| 21:13.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Mindrila: ok, should have just sent another e-mail to you. |
| 21:13.15 | Legorol | they give same data, and same problem |
| 21:13.24 | Legorol | Antiarc: my problem is exactly that i don't know the exact mechanics |
| 21:13.26 | ZealotOnAStick | if you don't get it in an hour or so, lemme know. |
| 21:13.35 | Legorol | so i looked in the two most popular threatmeters to see if i can see something |
| 21:13.52 | Xinhuan | i've never had an aggro issue on Prince before |
| 21:13.56 | Codayus | Well, if the threat meter knew what the threat reduction was, it wouldn't be a problem... |
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| 21:14.00 | Legorol | we seem to have a problem when people are very close to, but just below the MT |
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| 21:14.03 | Mudkips | if someone pulls aggro on prince, threatmeters aren't you problem |
| 21:14.04 | Antiarc | Legorol: Are you sure your tank isn't getting enfeebled due to someone popping above their threat, but below the aggro threshold? |
| 21:14.04 | Mindrila | if he has both running he must disable the "send data to ktm" because then he has double aggro at least i thought it was happening |
| 21:14.10 | Legorol | in term of numbers, within less than 10k |
| 21:14.14 | Mindrila | Thank you Zealot |
| 21:14.16 | Xinhuan | the only way the tank will lose aggro on prince is if the tank is AFK and not trying |
| 21:14.17 | Legorol | no, i am very sure |
| 21:14.23 | Legorol | we have people who are below the tank, but within 10k |
| 21:14.27 | Mudkips | Xinhuan, exactly |
| 21:14.33 | Hjalte | Antiarc, I've been thinking, would it screw anything up for Omen, if people are comparing the two threat meters by running them both or is Omen fine with that? |
| 21:14.35 | Mudkips | *sigh* |
| 21:14.35 | Legorol | i disagree with taht |
| 21:14.48 | Legorol | if the tank and the dps are very close and there is indeed something happening at phase 2 transition, you can lose aggro |
| 21:14.53 | Xinhuan | well i think the whole channel here doesn't have issue with prince aggro? |
| 21:14.56 | Antiarc | Hjalte: Omen and KTM can be run side-by-side :) |
| 21:14.56 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: Threat will listen for Threat data and KTM will listen for KTM data, and neither will get confused :P |
| 21:15.07 | Legorol | Xinhuan: your attempts at logic are not sound |
| 21:15.14 | Mudkips | lmao |
| 21:15.18 | Mudkips | your isn't either |
| 21:15.18 | Legorol | you not having observed something is *not* proof for its inexistence |
| 21:15.24 | Legorol | i'm afraid mine is a bit better |
| 21:15.37 | Legorol | i *have* actually seen it, which is a bit better than you saying "i haven't seen it happen so it can't happen" |
| 21:15.43 | Antiarc | Well, you could write a module for it and try to tune to it |
| 21:15.48 | Xinhuan | are they all using the same version of KTM/Omen then? |
| 21:15.51 | Antiarc | But I have no idea what or how much the mechanic could be |
| 21:16.00 | Legorol | Xinhuan: yes |
| 21:16.05 | Legorol | actual example from today: |
| 21:16.18 | Legorol | hunter did an FD a few seconds before transition to phase 2 |
| 21:16.22 | Legorol | his FD wasn't resisted |
| 21:16.27 | Legorol | at transition, he pulled aggro |
| 21:16.42 | Mudkips | ... |
| 21:16.44 | Xinhuan | so is that a game fault, or a threat meter fault? |
| 21:16.45 | Antiarc | I'd suggest the FD was resisted and he missed it |
| 21:16.46 | Mudkips | that makes no sense |
| 21:16.53 | Legorol | Xinhuan: i never said it's threat meter fault |
| 21:16.57 | Legorol | Mudkips: i agree it doesn't make sense |
| 21:17.00 | Ellipsis | so aggro is *random*? |
| 21:17.06 | Legorol | i never said that either |
| 21:17.13 | Legorol | all i said is that aggro at phase transition is non-trivial |
| 21:17.14 | Ellipsis | well if he just FD'd and it wasn't resisted... |
| 21:17.19 | Xinhuan | so how is it that nobody else pulled aggro? |
| 21:17.27 | Legorol | i know something doesn't add up in that story, i was trying to figure out what's wrong with the story |
| 21:17.29 | Xinhuan | surely the FDed hunter would be far below any other DPSer |
| 21:17.37 | Antiarc | Occam says the FD was resisted |
| 21:17.40 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 21:17.40 | Legorol | that's exactly why i tried to see if any of the threatmeters know anything about threat on prince |
| 21:17.45 | Mudkips | FD resisted I bet |
| 21:17.45 | Antiarc | And the hunter continued to pewpew merrily |
| 21:17.47 | Legorol | Antiarc: i agree |
| 21:17.49 | Mudkips | hunter is full of it |
| 21:17.51 | Legorol | that'd be Occam |
| 21:17.51 | Ellipsis | and when they didn't you assumed the meters were wrong? |
| 21:18.02 | Legorol | it still doesn't explain him pulling aggro when he was below the tank though |
| 21:18.10 | Legorol | Ellipsis: i didn't assume the meter is wrong |
| 21:18.15 | Codayus | I've killed prince more times than I can count, and never seen aggro issues at the transition. Now...a small static threat reduction is POSSIBLE, but a just-FDed hunter pulling aggro doesn't fit with that. |
| 21:18.18 | Legorol | can you please scroll up and see where i said that the meters are wrong? |
| 21:18.30 | Legorol | look guys, what are you trying to tell me... |
| 21:18.30 | Mudkips | yeah |
| 21:18.34 | Legorol | i didn't blame threat meters |
| 21:18.40 | Mindrila | was the tank knocked back to the wall through a nova perhaps? just getting outside of meleerange? |
| 21:18.46 | Mudkips | I don't see the point of the discussion anymore |
| 21:18.48 | Legorol | all i stated is what's factual: that we have problem with people pulling aggro at exactly the transition |
| 21:18.52 | Legorol | i don't know why, how or when |
| 21:18.57 | Legorol | i have some partial observations |
| 21:18.58 | Legorol | that's all i have |
| 21:19.00 | Ellipsis | [2:11:24 pm] <Legorol> i don't know the exact details, in fact i'd love to find out (which is why i checked KTM and Omen), but our current best theory is that he reduces MT threat by fixed amount |
| 21:19.09 | Ellipsis | implying that the meter is wrong... |
| 21:19.09 | Mudkips | certainly someone is doing -something- wrong in your raids |
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| 21:19.10 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 21:19.10 | CIA-12 | - remove the obsolete "add spell" functions. |
| 21:19.10 | CIA-12 | - make the bar background less faded. |
| 21:19.21 | Mudkips | I've done karazhan hundreds of times and this hasnt' happened |
| 21:19.24 | Xinhuan | Legorol: i see only 1 possibility and the possibility is that patch 2.2 broke Prince this week somehow with phase changes |
| 21:19.32 | Xinhuan | we have all done kara some 7? 8? months? |
| 21:19.32 | Legorol | no, this is a longstanding issue |
| 21:19.36 | Legorol | this has happened for a long time |
| 21:19.37 | Xinhuan | none of us have seen it happen |
| 21:19.40 | Legorol | guys, please stop for a moment.. |
| 21:19.49 | Legorol | "it hasn't happened to us" is NOT proof that it can't happen |
| 21:19.49 | Mudkips | I've done prince this week, and I had solid aggro the whole time |
| 21:20.01 | Legorol | listen to how you are arguing: |
| 21:20.06 | Keias | Strangely enough |
| 21:20.10 | Legorol | "i haven't had a problem" therefore other people can't have it either |
| 21:20.12 | Keias | since 2.2 my guild has had an easier time with prince o_O |
| 21:20.13 | Legorol | that's not sound logic |
| 21:20.15 | LetheKai|AFK | Sorry to interrupt - Is Necronomicon2 sort of like an Ace2 version of Necrosis? Or does such a thing exist? |
| 21:20.29 | Legorol | i am giving you facts and speculations |
| 21:20.29 | Keias | I personally haven't noticed any aggro changes during phase transitions |
| 21:20.36 | Ellipsis | Legorol: neither does "this one huntard said he FD'd and still got aggro therefore there must be some previously unknown mechanic at work here" |
| 21:20.39 | Xinhuan | well, alright, you came in here to ask about the prince aggro mechanic, none of us have noticed anything special about it |
| 21:20.41 | Keias | Unelss of course I catch an enfeeble during a transition lol |
| 21:20.45 | Legorol | fact: we have people pulling aggro at exactly phase transition, happened before 2.2 as well many times as well as after 2.2 |
| 21:20.52 | Codayus | Thing is, if there was a BIG effect, people here WOULD have noticed it. |
| 21:20.54 | Legorol | theory: static aggro dump, unverified |
| 21:20.55 | Mudkips | what do you want us to do Legorol? |
| 21:21.02 | Mudkips | log in your chars and play for you? |
| 21:21.04 | Codayus | So, the fact that people aren't seeing it *IS* evidence. |
| 21:21.15 | Legorol | Codayus: that's very unsound and unscientific |
| 21:21.18 | sylvanaar | they are saying your information is anecdotal |
| 21:21.25 | Legorol | not having seen something is not a proof for it not existing |
| 21:21.29 | Hjalte | LetheKai|AFK: Just simpler. Much simpler. |
| 21:21.34 | Mudkips | I suggest you post in R&D forums |
| 21:21.54 | Legorol | that's a good idea, thanks |
| 21:21.54 | Mudkips | maybe you will find more people who "share" your problem |
| 21:21.54 | Keias | Since 2.2, Onyxia is doing Deep Breath more |
| 21:21.55 | Legorol | i am not claiming that you are supposed to have issues with prince |
| 21:21.58 | Legorol | if you don't, that's great |
| 21:22.11 | Legorol | the fact that we pull aggro can't be changed, i don't know its cause |
| 21:22.24 | Ackis | Legorol, could it be that your tank is bad? |
| 21:22.27 | Codayus | Legorol: If there's is a complete aggro wipe at p2, everyone would know. |
| 21:22.29 | Xinhuan | i suggest replacing the tank, and see if you have the same issue |
| 21:22.41 | Legorol | Ackis: the tank can be bad in that he isn't generating a lot of threat, but |
| 21:22.42 | Xinhuan | i've yet to hear anyone remotely pulling aggro in any guild on any server on prince |
| 21:22.42 | Codayus | If there was a large aggro reduction at p2, almost everyone would know. |
| 21:22.47 | LetheKai|AFK | Hjalte: Thank you. =) |
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| 21:22.49 | Legorol | my *key* issue here is that when we had the problem happen, |
| 21:22.51 | Xinhuan | prince hits so hard the tank rage bar is always full |
| 21:22.58 | Legorol | the people who pulled were *below* the tank |
| 21:22.59 | Xinhuan | and the tank has plenty of rage to generate max |
| 21:23.00 | Codayus | Whatever it is is something either very small or very specialized, such that, apparently, only you see it... |
| 21:23.06 | Legorol | in different cases, they were below by different amounts, |
| 21:23.07 | Keias | Did the problem occur on EVERY attempt, or just some? |
| 21:23.09 | Legorol | but they were below him |
| 21:23.12 | Legorol | just some |
| 21:23.17 | Mudkips | ( Xinhuan ) prince hits so hard the tank rage bar is always full |
| 21:23.20 | Keias | That's definately strange then. |
| 21:23.20 | Mudkips | I beg to differ :P |
| 21:23.27 | Mindrila | well i have serious aggro problems with my warlock and i am always at very close range to the maintank and i never pulled aggro so I assume that your server is buggy |
| 21:23.28 | sylvanaar | well, did they finally fix the thing were everyone can huddle by the door and the tank can tank him at the wall? |
| 21:23.29 | Xinhuan | alright you're overgeared Mudkips ;p |
| 21:23.29 | Keias | hard = fast imo |
| 21:23.35 | Ellipsis | Legorol: what do you want from this channel? we do not know of any aggro issues, end of discussion? :/ |
| 21:23.38 | Mudkips | ./flex |
| 21:23.40 | Keias | Fucker eats my Shield Block charges :( |
| 21:23.42 | sylvanaar | it was working in 2.1 |
| 21:23.51 | Legorol | our observations suggest (and this is just a suggestion) that the problem only occurs when the dps is very close to the tank in threat |
| 21:23.56 | Legorol | with a good tank therefore you would never see this |
| 21:24.10 | sylvanaar | if they changed something to fix it - its likely they broke things |
| 21:24.10 | Legorol | that's why my hypothesis of small, static threat reduction |
| 21:24.28 | Mudkips | what is shield block? dodge more ! |
| 21:24.29 | Legorol | Ellipsis: i don't really want any more from the channel, all i wanted i got already |
| 21:24.31 | Ackis | they changed that door thing a long time ago i thought |
| 21:24.36 | Legorol | i asked for where i can see the boss mods in Threat |
| 21:24.38 | sylvanaar | no |
| 21:24.42 | Keias | Can't get that in kara gear Mudkips :( |
| 21:24.42 | sylvanaar | they did not |
| 21:24.44 | Legorol | people asked why i'm looking, i started explaining |
| 21:24.53 | Legorol | and i got flamed for how what i observed can't possibly have happened |
| 21:24.55 | Keias | Pocket Watch helps a bunch though :P |
| 21:25.06 | sylvanaar | it worked before the 2.2 patch, i dont know about now |
| 21:25.18 | Legorol | so i'm just a bit upset at the unsound approach people have to logic |
| 21:25.19 | Mudkips | i r bare |
| 21:25.19 | Legorol | that's all |
| 21:25.21 | Mudkips | i dodge lots |
| 21:25.53 | Ellipsis | Legorol: your approach is no better, come to us with solid evidence (debug output from Threat, etc.) and we'll be more likely to believe you |
| 21:25.57 | Xinhuan | your anecdote doesn't hold water if it only occurs once in every 1000 prince runs |
| 21:26.06 | Mudkips | SS or it didn't happen |
| 21:26.31 | Legorol | Ellipsis: my approach was simply to say that we see *something*, but we don't know what exactly |
| 21:26.39 | Legorol | the response i got was "you can't possibly be seeing something" |
| 21:26.44 | Legorol | that's rather... limited |
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| 21:27.00 | Antiarc | Legorol: Two things work again your hypothesis, though |
| 21:27.03 | Ellipsis | you said that a person with 0 threat pulled aggro... |
| 21:27.07 | Ellipsis | that's not just "something" |
| 21:27.15 | Antiarc | a) Blizzard has never implemented a flat threat reduction on any other mob, ever |
| 21:27.20 | Legorol | i agree that that particular example was not accurate |
| 21:27.27 | Antiarc | b) Blizzard tends to be very obvious about threat tricks in boss fights |
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| 21:27.43 | Legorol | Antiarc: i agree it's unlikely |
| 21:27.49 | Legorol | but that doesn't mean it's impossible |
| 21:27.50 | Codayus | Legorol: You seem to be having at least as many logic issues. Whatever threat behaviour Prince has is unlikely to be limited to your guild, so other guilds have at least a chance to see it. |
| 21:27.53 | Xinhuan | and c) millions of players have never reported such an issue on Prince |
| 21:27.59 | Antiarc | So either they did something at Malchezaar that they've never done anywhere else and which isn't a significant part of the fight, or there's another explaination |
| 21:28.07 | Codayus | That we aren't seeing it is strong evidence against certain types of threat behaviour... |
| 21:28.13 | Legorol | ok i have to run, we can take it up again later :) |
| 21:28.16 | sylvanaar | d) never expect anyone to agree with you in this channel |
| 21:28.18 | Legorol | with a more correct approach |
| 21:28.20 | Stanzilla2 | http://www.aptgetupdate.de/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/img-6672s.jpg |
| 21:28.22 | Antiarc | e) pants |
| 21:28.34 | Mudkips | f)more cowbell' |
| 21:28.42 | Ellipsis | g) tits. always related. |
| 21:28.45 | Mudkips | can never have enough |
| 21:29.05 | Mudkips | h) this is relevant to my interests |
| 21:29.37 | Codayus | I agree with sylvanaar! |
| 21:29.42 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 21:30.04 | Stanzilla2 | http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8942/badday0fj.jpg |
| 21:30.13 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r50554 10/branches/FlexBar2/: branch preparation |
| 21:30.30 | Xinhuan | rofl Stanzilla |
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| 21:30.48 | Mindrila | hmm wondering how long it takes the email to get to my mailbox |
| 21:31.00 | kandarz | http://media.kandarz.com/images/d/638-1/1178942632141.jpg |
| 21:31.03 | m4rku5 | hrm whats the best way to cath the event that a palyer joined/left the raidgroup ? |
| 21:31.12 | KarlThePagan | the problem with "pulling aggro" on prince is that as soon as you have any dps that beat your tank... your tank gets crippled to 1hp and dies |
| 21:31.26 | WsootBakc_ | Hi, is it normal that ArkInventory's pack option isn't working ? |
| 21:31.55 | kandarz | http://media.kandarz.com/images/d/664-1/1178943042041.jpg |
| 21:31.58 | KarlThePagan | so ... I don't understand how it could be possible that anyone gets over 130% of the tank |
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| 21:32.40 | Necrathex | yay kael down :) |
| 21:32.52 | KarlThePagan | O.o kael hard mode down? |
| 21:32.53 | Antiarc | Woo! Congrats! |
| 21:33.01 | Mindrila | gz |
| 21:33.03 | KarlThePagan | nice work |
| 21:33.12 | Codayus | Nice |
| 21:33.13 | Mudkips | phase 1 kael is hilarious |
| 21:33.18 | Necrathex | always nice guild 1st |
| 21:33.21 | Mudkips | thaladred dies in 1 pass |
| 21:33.36 | Mudkips | from the stairs to the left corner of the room |
| 21:34.16 | Mudkips | sucked to be in a guild learning him now though :( since the weapons get buffed |
| 21:34.25 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 21:34.36 | Antiarc | We're learning him now |
| 21:34.43 | Antiarc | And yeah, the shield in p3 is a bitch |
| 21:35.06 | Xinhuan | in fact this week is so terrible that my guild didn't kill Kaelthas this week, we still killed the usual farm stuff in BT/Hyjal though |
| 21:35.16 | Mudkips | and thaladred punted me into los and ported me in front of him .... |
| 21:35.21 | Mindrila | has someone extended knowledge of assesment in here? I wanted to create a view for DPS by Damage Type but all i get is an empty view (which is pretty simple to create ;)) |
| 21:35.22 | Mudkips | that was embarassing |
| 21:35.26 | Xinhuan | spent like a night wiping on BUGGED ALAR LOLOL meteor every 15 seconds |
| 21:35.34 | Xinhuan | best attempt was 16% wipe |
| 21:35.36 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r50555 10Ace3/ (7 files in 7 dirs): |
| 21:35.36 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceConfig: |
| 21:35.36 | CIA-12 | - Move all AceConfig subcomponents inside AceConfig. Joe dev doesn't need to know about them. |
| 21:36.54 | Vires | Next Ace rewrite should be number 5.. so you can be cool like Winamp was |
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| 21:37.27 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50557 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 21:37.27 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 21:37.27 | CIA-12 | - initialises existing buff bars on login. |
| 21:37.30 | Stanzilla2 | someone fix Color Picker please :( |
| 21:37.45 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 21:38.48 | ZealotOnAStick | !c us blackhand tenebra |
| 21:38.51 | ThraeBot | ZealotOnAStick: Tenebra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (44/0/17). 11220 HP; 9610 Mana; 124 mana regen; 175 spell crit; 215 spell hit; 1052 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (1106); 268 shadow dmg (1320); 5.39% dodge; 17 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 1431 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/299cp5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2llt2j ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 17:38:59 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:39.12 | Ellipsis | warfare, pfft >_> |
| 21:39.44 | ZealotOnAStick | ? |
| 21:39.55 | Ellipsis | guild |
| 21:40.07 | ZealotOnAStick | yes, why "pfft?" |
| 21:40.09 | Stanzilla2 | Xinhuan: EnhancedColourPicker/ |
| 21:40.14 | Ellipsis | because horde fails on blackhand |
| 21:40.17 | Stanzilla2 | is broken :/ |
| 21:40.33 | Ellipsis | well, except ijanaak, but that doesn't count |
| 21:40.46 | ZealotOnAStick | A lot of it does, yes. A lot of everything fails on blackhand. I take you're in Rampage BG? |
| 21:40.50 | Xinhuan | Stanzilla2: i believe ckknight committed a change to it a few hours ago |
| 21:40.55 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick: ex-trans |
| 21:40.56 | ZealotOnAStick | or are you ally side on Blackhand? |
| 21:41.08 | Ellipsis | I transferred off a while back |
| 21:41.11 | Xinhuan | 1 hour 34 minutes ago to be exact |
| 21:41.15 | Ellipsis | but the Blackhand spirit has never left me |
| 21:41.16 | Xinhuan | [10/2 04:00:17] <+CIA-36> ckknight * r50550 EnhancedColourPicker/EnhancedColourPicker.lua: EnhancedColourPicker - copy and paste color from _G.CurrentlyCopiedColor instead of _G.EnhCP.savedColor. Incidentally, this also makes it work with LibRockConfig-1.0's color copy/paste. |
| 21:41.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh, who'd you play? |
| 21:41.25 | Ellipsis | I'm not at liberty to say... |
| 21:41.37 | ZealotOnAStick | and hey, since the anti-camper measures . . . Horde rapes in AV. |
| 21:41.50 | orionshock | ... ive got to be doing something wrong here.... |
| 21:41.51 | CIA-12 | 03kalman * r50558 10DotDotDot/Core.lua: |
| 21:41.51 | CIA-12 | DotDotDot - Fixed-time DoT monitor: |
| 21:41.51 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.54 | Xinhuan | are you using this updated version? |
| 21:42.11 | Xinhuan | ZealotOnAStick: wait till you see the new AFK bot in AV |
| 21:42.17 | ZealotOnAStick | not that, overall, I give a fuck about PVP. |
| 21:42.21 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick: I had no idea anyone here actually played on Blackhand, haha XD |
| 21:42.24 | Xinhuan | the ppl zones in, waits for the game to start, then "hearths to dun baldur" |
| 21:42.34 | Xinhuan | then rehearths to dun baldur every 10 or 30 seconds |
| 21:42.42 | Xinhuan | or if necessary |
| 21:42.57 | kandarz | you have to actually do combat, not just get killed |
| 21:43.12 | kandarz | if you're stunlocked and can't do anything you still keep the debuff |
| 21:43.16 | Xinhuan | since these people actually are in dun baldur and not at the cave entrance, they dont' normally get reported AFK initially |
| 21:43.34 | Xinhuan | and usually rack up a good 250 honor before they finally get flagged inactive |
| 21:43.43 | kandarz | I'm by coldtooth mine and never get flagged |
| 21:43.56 | Xinhuan | yeah but ppl don't think you are afk if you're there |
| 21:43.59 | kandarz | but only lvl61 so not like I'm hurting anything |
| 21:44.01 | *** part/#wowace Mindrila (n=Arsenal@HSI-KBW-085-216-096-075.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 21:44.04 | Stanzilla2 | Xinhuan: I know...but someone else could look into it and fix it :( |
| 21:44.18 | *** join/#wowace Qaarh_ (n=Qaarh@ti211110a340-1560.bb.online.no) |
| 21:44.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Ellipsis: would you know Cryn/Eskarina/Sinnj/Liz/whatever other damn names she uses? |
| 21:44.33 | Xinhuan | well Stanzilla, did ckknight break it? or was it already broken initially |
| 21:44.46 | Mudkips | kandarz, stop taking up av slots |
| 21:44.53 | Xinhuan | just rollback to the previous version that last worked (you did backup right?) |
| 21:45.02 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/74697 -- it's giving me a nil Value when calling "DailyFu:AddQuestToCompleted("Test") --- any thoughts |
| 21:45.10 | Stanzilla2 | Xinhuan: I don't know if it was his commit that broke it but something with my colors is definatly going wrong |
| 21:45.11 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick: uh...no, horde or ally? |
| 21:45.12 | Saladin | hey Stanzilla2 |
| 21:45.13 | kandarz | Mudkips, I will once I have 78k honor, then I'll level to 70 and buy all the gear |
| 21:45.17 | Saladin | you played on swc right? |
| 21:45.33 | Stanzilla2 | swc? |
| 21:45.38 | Saladin | steamwheedle cartel |
| 21:45.42 | Stanzilla2 | nope :P |
| 21:45.45 | Saladin | Oh. |
| 21:45.46 | Xinhuan | if type(quest) ~= "string" then return end |
| 21:45.49 | Saladin | Doh. |
| 21:45.50 | Xinhuan | line 11 always returns? |
| 21:46.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Ellipsis: both. She also played some mage of someone else's originally in Trans |
| 21:46.09 | Ellipsis | some mage..hmm |
| 21:46.18 | Xinhuan | wait let me look again |
| 21:46.44 | Ellipsis | yeah, idk who that could be |
| 21:46.56 | Ellipsis | what did she use for her vent name? |
| 21:46.57 | Xinhuan | orionshock: your function doesn't return anything |
| 21:46.58 | orionshock | Xinhuan: i found it .. |
| 21:47.04 | Xinhuan | as far as i can see |
| 21:47.06 | Ellipsis | that's always the thing I pay most attention to with multi-alt people XD |
| 21:47.11 | Xinhuan | so its always "nil" |
| 21:47.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. Nami I think was the alliance mage. |
| 21:47.15 | orionshock | that function isn't suposed to return anything |
| 21:47.28 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 21:47.28 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.30 | Ellipsis | I know nami, yeah |
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| 21:47.48 | Ellipsis | saw her around on vent and such, didn't really talk to her though |
| 21:48.00 | Ellipsis | sort of a friend-of-a-friend deal |
| 21:48.10 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah |
| 21:48.12 | Xinhuan | what was the issue? |
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| 21:51.01 | *** join/#wowace Krittick (i=krittick@cpe-74-71-195-12.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 21:51.15 | Krittick | hey, I have a problem :/ |
| 21:51.32 | Ellipsis | cool |
| 21:51.33 | orionshock | well i learned something very important today... if in doubt about where something being fucked, /run Variable = nil /rl |
| 21:51.42 | Ellipsis | can we laugh at you for it Krittick? |
| 21:51.50 | Xinhuan | why nil it? |
| 21:51.51 | Krittick | I just updated all of my addons, and now my character screen is just a blank panel |
| 21:51.56 | Ellipsis | sweet |
| 21:52.10 | Krittick | any idea what could cause it? |
| 21:52.20 | orionshock | Krittick - so what your saying is that mods deleted your toons? |
| 21:52.24 | Krittick | no |
| 21:52.26 | Xinhuan | Krittick: "character screen" being... ? |
| 21:52.34 | Krittick | the paper doll panel |
| 21:52.38 | Krittick | when you press C |
| 21:52.43 | orionshock | ah.... |
| 21:52.46 | orionshock | keep updating |
| 21:52.51 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 21:52.58 | Xinhuan | someone broke something ;p |
| 21:53.01 | Xinhuan | so keep updating |
| 21:53.05 | Krittick | will do then |
| 21:53.16 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.17 | Xinhuan | or you can try to disable half your mods |
| 21:53.25 | Xinhuan | and see which half is working/not working |
| 21:53.27 | Krittick | I don't use ItemRack |
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| 21:53.39 | Xinhuan | and half the non-working, etc to figure out/narrow down which addon is causing the issue |
| 21:53.44 | Xinhuan | binary search, etc |
| 21:53.56 | Xinhuan | or take a intelligent stab and guess ;p |
| 21:54.23 | Vires | Modify one line of code per addon. Whenever one explodes, that's the problem. |
| 21:54.25 | Vires | =p |
| 21:54.57 | Krittick | it's not Skinner, not VisualArt, possibly Clearfont2? I don't see why that would make only one single pane blank though |
| 21:55.13 | Ellipsis | it's probably going to be something completely random |
| 21:55.15 | orionshock | lol Vires |
| 21:55.22 | dodga | Uuuh I had an empty raid frame yesterday |
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| 21:55.27 | Ellipsis | you're going to find out in the end that it's like, some really obscure bug in AltClickToAddItem |
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| 21:55.43 | Krittick | yeah I bet it's something like DeuceCommander |
| 21:55.45 | orionshock | Xinhuan: my problem with my fubar plugin was that my SV file and my addon where named the same exact thing...so it was being bitchie.... |
| 21:55.46 | Vires | TankPoints is still giving errors =( |
| 21:55.53 | Mudkips | AltClickToAddItem :3 |
| 21:55.58 | Xinhuan | oh rofl |
| 21:56.01 | Mudkips | cant live without it |
| 21:56.02 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.16 | Ellipsis | yeah Mudkips that's why I like to make fun of that one |
| 21:56.24 | Ellipsis | because it's the most ridiculous thing to Ace, and yet, everybody uses it |
| 21:56.29 | Ellipsis | because you just can't not use it |
| 21:56.34 | orionshock | ya so /run DailyFu = nil /rl -- fixed it like a charm... same thing with bliz raid UI.. ... >.> |
| 21:57.06 | orionshock | well off to hell .. err work... |
| 21:57.19 | Mudkips | some idiot warlock in your guild yesterday said "recount was increasing his ping when not reset after a while" |
| 21:57.31 | Krittick | hahahahaha |
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| 21:57.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:57.39 | dodga | /gkick? |
| 21:57.45 | Mudkips | its been done before |
| 21:58.00 | CIA-12 | 03jerry 07jerry * r50559 10Grid/Grid/GridStatusHealth.lua: Grid: (branch) Register UNIT_MAXHEALTH as it can be fired without UNIT_HEALTH being fired. |
| 21:58.08 | Mudkips | gkicked for pissing off officers |
| 21:58.11 | Mudkips | then reinvited |
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| 21:58.40 | dodga | 50 rounds around Auchindoun |
| 21:58.40 | Krittick | I love the new rock config menu |
| 21:58.41 | dodga | No mount! |
| 21:58.46 | Funkeh` | wtb input http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/294/newuirp5.jpg |
| 21:59.10 | NivFreak | input on the entire UI? |
| 21:59.15 | Xinhuan | ~golfclap dodga |
| 21:59.17 | purl | ACTION gives dodga a soft applause |
| 21:59.17 | Krittick | those wings above your player frame are the ugliest things I've seen |
| 21:59.17 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:59.18 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 21:59.21 | dodga | "minimalistic" |
| 21:59.24 | Vires | Funkeh`: Lacks chi |
| 21:59.27 | dodga | ~whalecrit Xinhuan |
| 21:59.28 | purl | ACTION crits Xinhuan with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Xinhuan dies |
| 21:59.37 | Funkeh` | chi? |
| 21:59.43 | Krittick | the blue border looks out of place and garish |
| 21:59.55 | Mudkips | MAIL ICON |
| 21:59.59 | Krittick | that too |
| 21:59.59 | Mudkips | kill it with fire |
| 22:00.07 | Vires | Chii! |
| 22:00.30 | Keias | The layout is good, I'm not a fan of the shades of blue though :( |
| 22:00.32 | Funkeh` | What colour should the borders be? |
| 22:00.32 | CIA-12 | 03kalman * r50560 10DotDotDot/ (Core.lua DotDotDot.toc): |
| 22:00.33 | CIA-12 | DotDotDot - Fixed-time DoT monitor: |
| 22:00.33 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.33 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.46 | Mudkips | make it a darker shade |
| 22:00.52 | Keias | Then again, I'm plain and always use monotone colors :( |
| 22:01.25 | Funkeh` | I was trying to get the same colour for the mana bars |
| 22:01.29 | Krittick | no color in my opinion |
| 22:01.46 | Funkeh` | It needs colour |
| 22:01.48 | Mudkips | Funkeh`, so your main bar is only 9 slots long? |
| 22:02.03 | Funkeh` | I keybinded the rest |
| 22:02.12 | Mudkips | I see |
| 22:02.13 | Vires | Blend on your name makes it really hard to tell it's actually there |
| 22:02.19 | Funkeh` | Infact I keybinded nearly everything, those are the things I need to see cooldowns for |
| 22:02.32 | Mudkips | dude I should do that too |
| 22:02.42 | Mudkips | just have cooldowns in view |
| 22:03.05 | Funkeh` | Vires: Blend? Like the border? |
| 22:03.19 | Vires | What font is the name in? heh |
| 22:03.25 | Funkeh` | can't remember |
| 22:03.29 | Funkeh` | some gothik thing |
| 22:03.39 | Krittick | I think I am going to completely reset my UI. Delete WTF folders, et all |
| 22:03.40 | Mudkips | but how will that work for my druid stance bars though? |
| 22:03.47 | Mudkips | I have similar binds to different bars |
| 22:03.56 | Vires | The wings being the same color as the font makes it look like it's part of the artwork... probably intentional... your target suffer the same blurred indecipherability? |
| 22:03.58 | Mudkips | like alt 3 for bear enrage and alt 3 for cat sprint |
| 22:03.59 | Mudkips | O_o |
| 22:04.35 | Funkeh` | Vires: yeah, but I can change the outline colour |
| 22:04.41 | Vires | Mudkips: Use Bartender3, set stance changes on your bars, set keybindings for those bars? |
| 22:05.09 | Mudkips | yeah I do use BT3 |
| 22:05.20 | Krittick | should I keep my config.wtf file? and just delete everything else? |
| 22:05.52 | Krittick | if I were to 100% start over on my ui |
| 22:05.57 | Mudkips | so far I have #1-6 then 7-8 are alt+#1-3 |
| 22:05.58 | Funkeh` | Vires: What colour do you think I sohuld make it? |
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| 22:06.08 | Vires | If you want to start 100% over, delete /Data/ too =p |
| 22:06.24 | Vires | jk.. |
| 22:06.25 | Vires | haha |
| 22:06.28 | Mudkips | er 7-9 |
| 22:06.38 | Krittick | oh okay I will do that right after I delete /Users/Ben/ |
| 22:06.40 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@cpe-76-88-169-31.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 22:06.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 22:06.59 | Krittick | ckknight, I love the new Rock config window. thank you for it :) |
| 22:07.23 | ckknight | glad you like it |
| 22:07.24 | Vires | Well, it's up to you if you want to change it. It's neat as it is now. If anything I'd make the outline darker so that it gives a bit more depth so you can see there's a name there.. |
| 22:07.29 | Lukian | ckknight, click2cast is yours yeah? just wondering if it's going to support the left/right modifiers (if it doesn't already) ? |
| 22:08.02 | Krittick | Anyone have an MX Revolution? How can I set one of its buttons to be considered the middle mouse button? :/ |
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| 22:08.51 | *** part/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 22:08.53 | ckknight | technically it is the bastard lovechild of ag` and myself |
| 22:09.10 | Nargiddley | Krittick, set one of them to Autoscroll |
| 22:09.19 | Krittick | thanks :) |
| 22:09.23 | NightHawkAtWork | Krittick: I'd just go into the mouse configuration and set the button to be middle click. |
| 22:09.42 | NightHawkAtWork | But that might be easier with USB Overdrive. |
| 22:10.22 | Mudkips | so I herd field repair bot will sell reagents |
| 22:10.31 | Ellipsis | but will it sell Mudkips |
| 22:11.12 | Mudkips | o_o I read that as "but will it blend Mudkips" |
| 22:11.39 | NightHawkAtWork | that's a good question. DO Mudkips blend? We should find out. |
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| 22:12.00 | Vires | 25% opacity they do. |
| 22:12.03 | Ellipsis | Mudkips: well, will it? |
| 22:12.13 | Ellipsis | I mean, if an iPhone blends, surely Mudkips will |
| 22:12.26 | NightHawkAtWork | Agreed. |
| 22:12.27 | Krittick | hurr I should disable my private server GM addons :V |
| 22:13.03 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 22:13.04 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 22:13.11 | sag_ich_nicht | some idiotic MS warrior with shitgear |
| 22:13.14 | sag_ich_nicht | just got gorehowl |
| 22:13.14 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 22:13.20 | sag_ich_nicht | he even still wears GREENS |
| 22:13.21 | Krittick | server/name |
| 22:13.22 | Krittick | ? |
| 22:13.22 | sag_ich_nicht | not one |
| 22:13.24 | sag_ich_nicht | MULTIPLE ONES |
| 22:13.27 | hyperChipmunk | i wear greens |
| 22:13.28 | hyperChipmunk | shut up |
| 22:13.29 | Mudkips | gorehowl is nub away |
| 22:13.34 | QuantumDelta | direhowl? :< |
| 22:13.35 | Mudkips | its all about STUNherald |
| 22:13.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't have nethervortex yet |
| 22:13.44 | QuantumDelta | skillherald* |
| 22:13.48 | Xinhuan | Skillherald |
| 22:13.55 | Mudkips | Stunherald |
| 22:13.58 | sag_ich_nicht | and gorehowl > deep thunder |
| 22:14.06 | sag_ich_nicht | also, stormheral doesn't proc that often, mace spec does |
| 22:14.09 | sag_ich_nicht | which will be nerfed :X |
| 22:14.13 | sag_ich_nicht | !c eu gul'dan realson |
| 22:14.15 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking GIMP |
| 22:14.16 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Realson, Level 70 Human Warrior (15/0/46). 11694 HP; 9088 Armour; 1310 AP; 201.700 Melee DPS; 9.69% melee crit; 4 melee hit; 168 defense; 13.81% dodge; 13.64% block; 144 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 1296 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28dsqk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3apwwr ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 18:14:25 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:14.17 | NivFreak | sag_ich_nicht: I gave our holy pally a gorehowl last night |
| 22:14.18 | Ellipsis | my weapon is green, pls don't make me crai |
| 22:14.28 | hyperChipmunk | green monkey gear are better than most rare/epic gear for survival hunters |
| 22:14.33 | sag_ich_nicht | hah, he's not even MS atm |
| 22:14.35 | QuantumDelta | 11694 HP? |
| 22:14.36 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking asshole |
| 22:14.43 | sag_ich_nicht | QuantumDelta not even MS atm |
| 22:14.46 | NivFreak | I took the first gorehowl as a prot warrior |
| 22:14.46 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:14.55 | sag_ich_nicht | he wasn't the tank. |
| 22:14.57 | Keias | Same here NivFreak lol |
| 22:14.58 | sag_ich_nicht | was FFA |
| 22:15.05 | Keias | !c us Blackrock Saiek |
| 22:15.08 | ThraeBot | Keias: Saiek, Level 70 Orc Warrior (33/25/3). 13024 HP; 9080 Armour; 1734 AP; 253.500 Melee DPS; 33.07% melee crit; 59 melee hit; 7.18% dodge; 5.00% block; 187 resilience;[[ TBR: 1799 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29ol45 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35yb94 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 18:15:16 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:15.09 | hyperChipmunk | ofc, i have about twice his HP...so I'm guessing he's not really making wise decisions with his green gear |
| 22:15.22 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 22:15.24 | sag_ich_nicht | he's a gimp |
| 22:15.26 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 22:15.28 | Krittick | !c us Maelstrom Krittick |
| 22:15.28 | sag_ich_nicht | his whole guild |
| 22:15.30 | ThraeBot | Krittick: Krittick, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (42/19/0). 8827 HP; 7534 Mana; 110 mana regen; 91 spell crit; 3 spell hit; 499 +spell dmg/heal; 50 frost dmg (549); 50 shadow dmg (549); 4.47% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1091 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/249d23 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wj372 ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 18:15:39 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:15.33 | sag_ich_nicht | is known to be filled with gimps |
| 22:15.44 | Mudkips | 8827 HP; -_- |
| 22:15.46 | Krittick | my warlock sucks so bad. I need to activate the account again :/ |
| 22:15.50 | QuantumDelta | do you raid with him? |
| 22:15.51 | NivFreak | I still want a copy of that bot :) |
| 22:15.52 | hyperChipmunk | but don't say green sucks just because it's green |
| 22:15.58 | sag_ich_nicht | QuantumDelta: as i said, FFA PUG |
| 22:16.01 | hyperChipmunk | sometimes that's the best equipment available |
| 22:16.02 | QuantumDelta | eww pug |
| 22:16.09 | NivFreak | mistake #1 |
| 22:16.11 | NivFreak | PUG kara |
| 22:16.12 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 22:16.12 | QuantumDelta | Talk about Masochistic |
| 22:16.13 | NivFreak | mistake #2 |
| 22:16.14 | NivFreak | FFA |
| 22:16.21 | NivFreak | mistake #3 |
| 22:16.21 | QuantumDelta | np with FFA :P |
| 22:16.24 | NivFreak | bringing other warriors |
| 22:16.27 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:16.28 | QuantumDelta | but never in a pug |
| 22:16.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i am ret |
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| 22:16.29 | sag_ich_nicht | noob |
| 22:16.31 | NivFreak | oh |
| 22:16.31 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:16.39 | NightHawkAtWork | mistake #4: being ret. :P |
| 22:16.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't have an id, they were at prince, and it's monday. |
| 22:16.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart NightHawkAtWork |
| 22:16.44 | purl | squeezes NightHawkAtWork till NightHawkAtWork turns blue like papa smurf |
| 22:16.46 | NivFreak | ret in 10 mans? lulz |
| 22:16.47 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 22:16.49 | Mudkips | hey |
| 22:16.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalecrit NivFreak |
| 22:16.54 | purl | ACTION crits NivFreak with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. NivFreak dies |
| 22:16.56 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalecrit NightHawkAtWork |
| 22:16.57 | purl | ACTION crits NightHawkAtWork with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. NightHawkAtWork dies |
| 22:16.58 | Mudkips | if we can pug magtheridon on DI |
| 22:17.00 | Mudkips | you can pug kara |
| 22:17.02 | Mudkips | anything is possible |
| 22:17.19 | NivFreak | you can pug it |
| 22:17.22 | NivFreak | doesn't mean it will be fun |
| 22:17.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i play on a release server. |
| 22:17.26 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
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| 22:17.33 | NivFreak | I play on a beta server? |
| 22:17.35 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:17.39 | QuantumDelta | PuG magtheridon |
| 22:17.50 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak: kill yourself? o_O |
| 22:17.51 | NivFreak | that sounds like pain |
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| 22:18.03 | SMELTN | hmm |
| 22:18.05 | NivFreak | but of course |
| 22:18.06 | QuantumDelta | I don't think randoms would have the mental capacity to understand the way I set out my magtheridon tactics :< |
| 22:18.09 | sag_ich_nicht | we pugged in MC and cleared it in the end days before BC came |
| 22:18.16 | SMELTN | so I cant look at instance boss loot anymore with Cartographer huh? |
| 22:18.18 | NivFreak | there's "PUG" where you bring all the geared raiding guild folks to do old content |
| 22:18.24 | NivFreak | and then there's "PUG" where you spam trade for an hour |
| 22:18.27 | NivFreak | and take what comes |
| 22:18.37 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 22:18.50 | NivFreak | I don't really consider the prior a pug |
| 22:18.55 | Krittick | my god |
| 22:19.03 | Krittick | deleting my WTF folder was a bad idea |
| 22:19.04 | Xinhuan | there's a difference between "random pug" and "skilled players only pug" |
| 22:19.12 | NivFreak | I tried to take my shadow priest alt to a kara pug |
| 22:19.18 | Krittick | but it fixed my invisible character pane :D |
| 22:19.20 | NivFreak | they turned me down because I only have +800dmg |
| 22:19.26 | NivFreak | seems fine for kara |
| 22:19.49 | QuantumDelta | Meh |
| 22:19.58 | QuantumDelta | If it's skilled players only |
| 22:20.01 | Mudkips | Xinhuan, well we did wipe about 5 times |
| 22:20.02 | QuantumDelta | you already know them all |
| 22:20.05 | QuantumDelta | so it's hardly a pug |
| 22:20.07 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:20.08 | Mudkips | but the randoms learned fast |
| 22:20.14 | Mudkips | and figured out how to click |
| 22:20.16 | hyperChipmunk | Krittick: you do know 'delete' is just a fancy word for 'rename to .bak' right? |
| 22:20.31 | m4rku5 | ~seen mikk |
| 22:20.55 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 4h 3m 18s ago, saying: 'be lucky if you can cram 5 megabits through a mismatch'. |
| 22:20.56 | Mudkips | actually we pugged gruul's lair a few days ago |
| 22:20.57 | Mudkips | it was for the lulz |
| 22:21.08 | Mudkips | we had these 2 airhead girl paladins from some scrub guild |
| 22:21.14 | Krittick | hyperChipmunk, I wanted to completely redo my UI anyways |
| 22:21.18 | Mudkips | we were cracking up on guildchat the whole time |
| 22:21.25 | hyperChipmunk | you can do that with a rename, too |
| 22:21.31 | QuantumDelta | we pugged gruul a while back |
| 22:21.33 | Krittick | it's just overwhelming at first is all I mean |
| 22:21.40 | QuantumDelta | ended up with 8 god damn paladins in the raid |
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| 22:22.14 | Mudkips | the pally asks the RL what her job was on Grull , he says "heal the MT" |
| 22:22.19 | Mudkips | he continues to explain the fight |
| 22:22.30 | Mudkips | right before we pull she chimes in and goes "i was on the phone with my sister, what do i do? |
| 22:22.38 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r50561 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigRegistry-3.0/AceConfigRegistry-3.0.lua: |
| 22:22.38 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceConfigRegistry: |
| 22:22.38 | CIA-12 | - Conceptually complete. Allows registering options tables, retreiving them by name, and iterating over them. |
| 22:22.38 | CIA-12 | - Will always return function references that must be called with ('uiType','uiName') to get the options table. Wrappers created internally if a plain table is given when registering. |
| 22:22.56 | NivFreak | 8 paladins? |
| 22:22.57 | NivFreak | hahaha |
| 22:23.15 | NivFreak | We brought 6 warlocks to gruul a couple weeks ago |
| 22:23.18 | Mudkips | then she dies on the first shatter - very shocked - and shouts "I DIDN"T KNOW WE TAKE DAMAGE " |
| 22:23.20 | NivFreak | kept filling up the debuff slots =/ |
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| 22:23.50 | NivFreak | I think I'd rather have 8 resto shamans |
| 22:23.55 | NivFreak | and one paladin for BOS |
| 22:24.05 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 22:24.22 | NightHawkAtWork | at least with 8 resto shammys you'd have a shitton of BL |
| 22:24.23 | NivFreak | spam chain heal for 15 growths |
| 22:24.33 | NivFreak | no kidding |
| 22:24.54 | Xinhuan | only need 6 healers for gruul :o |
| 22:24.56 | Xinhuan | or 5 |
| 22:24.56 | NivFreak | it his nice having BoM/BoK/BoS/BoL all on your melee |
| 22:24.57 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:25.02 | Xinhuan | why 8? |
| 22:25.10 | NivFreak | he said 8, I was just comparing :) |
| 22:25.37 | NivFreak | we bring 7-8 |
| 22:25.48 | NivFreak | usually lose the priets in the first couple shatters |
| 22:25.54 | NivFreak | priests |
| 22:25.59 | kandarz | holy priests are a joke |
| 22:26.02 | Xinhuan | the more dps you bring, the less growths you kill him by, the less healing needed |
| 22:26.02 | Mudkips | yeah the first attempt we got up to 20 grows |
| 22:26.03 | kandarz | die in 1 hit |
| 22:26.06 | Mudkips | I died. |
| 22:26.09 | NivFreak | 20 grows? =x |
| 22:26.13 | Mudkips | I dont know how I lived that long |
| 22:26.16 | NivFreak | druid offtank? |
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| 22:26.28 | Mudkips | i mt'd it and another druid ot'd |
| 22:26.32 | NivFreak | at 17 grows he was hitting our warrior OT for 16K per hurtful |
| 22:27.12 | NivFreak | he has crappy gear too |
| 22:27.15 | NivFreak | I think he has 17K buffed |
| 22:27.27 | Mudkips | ouch |
| 22:27.43 | NivFreak | the threat is the worst part |
| 22:27.47 | NivFreak | I've gotta replace him fast |
| 22:27.53 | NivFreak | he spammed devastate for the entire fight |
| 22:28.00 | NivFreak | no shield slam or revenge or heroic strike... |
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| 22:28.14 | NivFreak | We didn't need that melee DPS anyway, right? |
| 22:28.28 | charon | i'd guesstimate a decent druid would get 12-14k hurtfuls at 17 :) |
| 22:28.47 | NivFreak | yea, I've almost got a druid geared up well enough to OT him |
| 22:28.55 | NivFreak | we have a couple that can, but they are resto |
| 22:28.56 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:29.14 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:24] <NightHawkAtWork> at least with 8 resto shammys you'd have a shitton of BL <--holy fucking shit totems totems totems |
| 22:29.30 | NivFreak | my current fight is trying to explain to the other officers why it's stupid to bring 3 prot warriors to gruul... |
| 22:29.44 | Mudkips | you guys have 3 prot warriors? |
| 22:29.48 | Mudkips | we're lucky to have 2 |
| 22:29.48 | NivFreak | 3 kara groups |
| 22:30.01 | NivFreak | prot warrior MT for each |
| 22:30.05 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 22:30.06 | NivFreak | we actually have more |
| 22:30.13 | charon | we have 3 and another that respecs every few hours |
| 22:30.14 | NivFreak | but they aren't geared well enough |
| 22:30.16 | Mudkips | and the one dedicated prot warrior we have spends the respec gold for his arena team too |
| 22:30.25 | NivFreak | yea, I respec 4 times a week |
| 22:30.29 | NivFreak | heh |
| 22:30.34 | NivFreak | prot -> arms |
| 22:30.42 | NivFreak | and back |
| 22:30.44 | Mudkips | mine is on the lowest respec cost :P |
| 22:30.50 | NivFreak | diaf :) |
| 22:30.53 | NivFreak | 200G a week |
| 22:31.22 | NivFreak | thank god for dailies |
| 22:31.30 | Xinhuan | 10 dailies = 120g in 1.5 hours |
| 22:31.36 | Mudkips | everyone in the guild has been houndign me about being revered in hyjal for the gems |
| 22:31.39 | CIA-12 | 03prudence * r50562 10Assessment/Modules/ (Aura.lua CrowdControl.lua): |
| 22:31.39 | CIA-12 | Assessment: |
| 22:31.39 | CIA-12 | - Update french translation |
| 22:31.52 | Mudkips | maybe if out warrior was on last night... we could have finished Hyjal and done archimonde |
| 22:32.05 | Mudkips | but no I will miss out on it today because I get to work \o/ |
| 22:32.16 | Xinhuan | T_T, i'm almost honored |
| 22:32.20 | Xinhuan | but not quite |
| 22:32.25 | NivFreak | I'm still waiting for ezmode hyjal |
| 22:32.26 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:32.37 | Mudkips | I'm like 10825/12000 rep |
| 22:32.42 | Xinhuan | you mean you are waiting for blizzard to remove attunement requirements :) |
| 22:32.46 | Xinhuan | to BT/Hyjal |
| 22:32.57 | NivFreak | and nerf it to shit |
| 22:33.15 | buu | Sounds good. |
| 22:33.24 | Xinhuan | unfortunately, SSC/TK gear is actually required |
| 22:33.30 | NivFreak | until they nerf it to shit |
| 22:33.33 | Xinhuan | to beat the enrage timers in Hyjal/BT, unless they nerf |
| 22:33.33 | Mudkips | I would have been revered a long time ago but no... they raid hyjals on my work days |
| 22:33.36 | Mudkips | yay =_= |
| 22:34.01 | Mudkips | yesterday was an exception |
| 22:34.46 | Krittick | anyone know how to make the grid in Align have smaller boxes? |
| 22:35.50 | Keias | try /align 128 |
| 22:35.53 | Keias | or /align 64 |
| 22:36.05 | Keias | You have to do that when the grid isn't up |
| 22:36.15 | Krittick | kk |
| 22:36.53 | Krittick | you are awesome, thanls |
| 22:36.55 | Krittick | thanks* |
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| 22:37.04 | sag_ich_nicht | sigh |
| 22:37.13 | Fathersin | ~questsfu |
| 22:37.24 | sag_ich_nicht | at least i got my master assassin signet |
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| 22:37.28 | Fathersin | well that didn't work |
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| 22:39.27 | Mudkips | http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=412130298&size=o |
| 22:40.02 | Mudkips | Even Jesus would be like "Seriously you need to sign up" |
| 22:40.25 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 22:40.26 | NivFreak | hah |
| 22:40.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i have 1444 AP unbuffed |
| 22:40.33 | sag_ich_nicht | that's stupid |
| 22:40.39 | Mudkips | as? |
| 22:40.43 | sag_ich_nicht | as in |
| 22:40.48 | sag_ich_nicht | should be 1500 |
| 22:40.50 | sag_ich_nicht | and also |
| 22:40.50 | sag_ich_nicht | as in |
| 22:40.57 | sag_ich_nicht | 1444 |
| 22:40.59 | sag_ich_nicht | also as paladin |
| 22:41.03 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:41.36 | NivFreak | I still don't get the paladin obsession with DPS |
| 22:41.45 | NivFreak | every paladin I know seems to want to go ret |
| 22:42.03 | kandarz | how do I check if an addon is enabled without enabling it? |
| 22:42.17 | charon | NivFreak: what, because they might have some fun for a change? *cough* |
| 22:42.18 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak: i still don't get the problem other players have with the fact that paladins have a retribution tree and are a hybrid |
| 22:42.20 | ag` | NivFreak, some people didn't roll paladin to heal |
| 22:42.29 | Ellipsis | kandarz - IsAddOnLoaded()? |
| 22:42.30 | Mudkips | if a tree falls and nobody is around, does it make a sound kandarz? |
| 22:42.30 | NivFreak | so tank? |
| 22:42.31 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:42.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 22:42.41 | NivFreak | let me spec my priest deep disc and raid |
| 22:42.42 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:42.46 | Krittick | please tell me there's a way to disable the minimap voicechat button |
| 22:42.48 | NivFreak | smite smite smite! |
| 22:42.55 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak: disc is just as broken as ret |
| 22:42.57 | sag_ich_nicht | known problem |
| 22:43.02 | NivFreak | disc is a great tree |
| 22:43.05 | ag` | Just because blizzard fucked up the talent trees, doesn |
| 22:43.08 | NivFreak | for 30 points... |
| 22:43.13 | kandarz | Ellipsis, that's if it's loaded, I want enabled, to know if it's possible to even load it |
| 22:43.15 | ag` | doesn't mean it shouldn't be viable in an ideal world |
| 22:43.24 | Ellipsis | kandarz - *shrug* |
| 22:43.27 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak the tree is broken, shut your damn mouth if you can't accept it, because then this discussion is over |
| 22:43.29 | NivFreak | ag`: blizzard's offical word is "Not all trees will be end game viable) |
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| 22:43.30 | NivFreak | " |
| 22:43.37 | NivFreak | sag_ich_nicht: haha |
| 22:43.37 | sag_ich_nicht | wrong |
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| 22:43.45 | ag` | I've never heard that |
| 22:43.54 | ag` | they're talking about making disc usable in raids |
| 22:43.55 | Ellipsis | oh, kandarz - it's part of GetAddOnInfo() |
| 22:44.03 | Ellipsis | 4th arg |
| 22:44.05 | ag` | for example through being able to cast PS on others |
| 22:44.07 | sag_ich_nicht | that was blizzards word 1 1/2 years ago. the new line is "we can't stand the pressure from players and thus make every tree viable lol patch 2.3" |
| 22:44.09 | ag` | lowering cooldown etc |
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| 22:44.20 | Mudkips | disciple will be when pain supression becomes targatable |
| 22:44.24 | NivFreak | ag`: yes, everyone will have a disc bitch |
| 22:44.25 | NivFreak | in raid |
| 22:44.27 | Mudkips | druidwall inc |
| 22:44.44 | masanbol | i can't wait |
| 22:44.51 | charon | Mudkips: <3 trinketwall :P |
| 22:44.52 | rob` | I'm going to love disc priests so very very much. |
| 22:44.52 | Mudkips | although i can't see our holy priest respeccing |
| 22:44.54 | sag_ich_nicht | it's suposed to hit the PTR tomorrow |
| 22:44.59 | sag_ich_nicht | US, that is |
| 22:45.05 | ag` | I wouldn't mind being disc in raids almost |
| 22:45.05 | Mudkips | he currently has 2nd highest healing vs this EU priest |
| 22:45.10 | Xinhuan | i think we all know why patch 2.3 contains so many class buffs...... they didn't want to nerf SSC/TK/Hyjal/BT, so they are buffing everyone hard enough to be able to defeat them. |
| 22:45.10 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 22:45.13 | sag_ich_nicht | the change |
| 22:45.26 | sag_ich_nicht | PS then also lowers threat by 5% |
| 22:45.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lol not tank viable |
| 22:45.33 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 22:45.42 | Mudkips | druid tanks poop aggro |
| 22:45.44 | masanbol | yeah, but if your tank has a big enough lead, that's fine |
| 22:45.45 | Mudkips | no problem there |
| 22:45.51 | masanbol | most druids don't have agro issues |
| 22:46.02 | NivFreak | it's more useful for AoE |
| 22:46.03 | Mudkips | plus tier 6 2 piece |
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| 22:46.08 | NivFreak | PS the mage/warlock |
| 22:46.18 | sag_ich_nicht | they do... against enchantment shamans and ret paladins |
| 22:46.20 | Ellipsis | it's like priest BoP, only not |
| 22:46.24 | sag_ich_nicht | but that is SUPOSED to be fixed as well |
| 22:46.27 | sag_ich_nicht | +P |
| 22:46.30 | masanbol | i think it has more than one application, lol |
| 22:46.34 | Mudkips | wai wait |
| 22:46.37 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB threat reduction confirmation for ret |
| 22:46.40 | zac | lol @ enchantment shamans |
| 22:46.44 | Mudkips | pain suppression + barskin |
| 22:46.48 | Mudkips | real druidwall! |
| 22:46.55 | Mudkips | barkskin* |
| 22:46.55 | masanbol | lol |
| 22:47.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Mudkips: correct, /cancelform is now instant |
| 22:47.03 | Antiarc | "Fighting a warrior is like fighting a blender. You can easily unplug it from feet away, even shut the power off, but if you stick your face into it, you're going to lose." |
| 22:47.06 | sag_ich_nicht | so that might actually be possible |
| 22:47.18 | masanbol | macro a /cancelform + barkskin + bear |
| 22:47.22 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
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| 22:47.51 | masanbol | careful to put it on a timer, i can see myself hitting it twice by accident and getting oneshot by morogrim |
| 22:48.00 | sag_ich_nicht | also macro a /cancelform, /use super health potion, /stopcasting, /use master healthstone, /cast Dire Bear Form |
| 22:48.13 | Ellipsis | imba |
| 22:48.15 | NivFreak | won't that do 2 GCD? |
| 22:48.18 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak: no |
| 22:48.21 | NivFreak | hax |
| 22:48.31 | NivFreak | seems silly |
| 22:48.33 | sag_ich_nicht | the /stopcasting is there for that |
| 22:48.36 | NivFreak | why not just make them usable in bear form? |
| 22:48.38 | sag_ich_nicht | works, trust me |
| 22:48.46 | sag_ich_nicht | NivFreak: because blizzard is dumb |
| 22:48.46 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 22:48.50 | Ellipsis | Blizz wants to reward players who use the macro system |
| 22:48.55 | NivFreak | fine by me |
| 22:48.58 | NivFreak | but I need more macro slots |
| 22:49.00 | NivFreak | and longer macros :) |
| 22:49.02 | Kemayo | NivFreak: This makes it a trade-off -- druids have to dump their rage to use 'em this way. |
| 22:49.03 | sag_ich_nicht | SUPERMACRO |
| 22:49.07 | NivFreak | supermacro == broken |
| 22:49.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ~supermacro |
| 22:49.10 | sag_ich_nicht | lies |
| 22:49.19 | NivFreak | since 2.0 afaik |
| 22:49.20 | masanbol | rofl, the program that reports errors in vista just error'd |
| 22:49.27 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 22:49.27 | Krittick | stupid question here: how do I change the font size in Prat again? :/ |
| 22:49.31 | NivFreak | Kemayo: ah, good point |
| 22:49.52 | Krittick | nevermind |
| 22:49.57 | masanbol | all of you need to get G15 keyboards |
| 22:50.03 | Mudkips | g15 is overrated |
| 22:50.04 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't NEED the macro system for most of your macros, NivFreak |
| 22:50.09 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 22:50.18 | Mudkips | who ever heard of 70$ keyboards |
| 22:50.25 | Krittick | I have a G15 |
| 22:50.43 | vithos | why pay $70 for a G15 when you can pay $0 for AutoHotKey |
| 22:50.43 | masanbol | sag_ich_nicht: B&! |
| 22:50.47 | Kemayo | Ded sexay. |
| 22:50.49 | sag_ich_nicht | masanbol what no |
| 22:50.55 | sag_ich_nicht | my model m > shit keyboards |
| 22:51.03 | sag_ich_nicht | s/shit/your shit/ |
| 22:51.17 | NivFreak | I have a g15 |
| 22:51.20 | NivFreak | but I don't always play with it |
| 22:51.24 | NivFreak | sometimes I play on my laptop |
| 22:51.26 | sag_ich_nicht | my model m > your g15 |
| 22:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 22:51.32 | NivFreak | good for you :) |
| 22:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | damn i |
| 22:51.37 | sag_ich_nicht | t |
| 22:51.40 | sag_ich_nicht | you make it no fun :( |
| 22:51.44 | masanbol | s/B&!/V&!/ |
| 22:51.49 | sag_ich_nicht | masanbol: o rly |
| 22:51.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't believe it |
| 22:52.01 | masanbol | haha |
| 22:52.17 | sag_ich_nicht | fail for incorrect response |
| 22:52.18 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail masanbol |
| 22:52.19 | purl | masanbol: Fail. |
| 22:53.00 | masanbol | there is no such thing as innocence. only degrees of guilt |
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| 22:53.53 | Mudkips | wow thats really disturbing |
| 22:54.21 | masanbol | what, you've never played dawn of war? |
| 22:54.31 | Mudkips | "Burma: Thousands dead in massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle" |
| 22:54.38 | NivFreak | "I suppose Bornakk didn't mention it, but all disarm immunity effects in the game were changed to 50% disarm duration reduction (non stacking)." |
| 22:54.39 | masanbol | oh |
| 22:54.39 | Mudkips | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=484903&in_page_id=1 |
| 22:54.44 | NivFreak | blizz == fail |
| 22:54.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Mudkips you know what i want to respond with |
| 22:54.55 | NivFreak | I _hate_ getting disarmed as a tank |
| 22:55.10 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 22:55.15 | Xinhuan | well how many mobs do you know of can disarm? |
| 22:55.21 | Mudkips | now what I don't get is why feral forms can get a disarm debuff |
| 22:55.21 | NivFreak | tons |
| 22:55.21 | sag_ich_nicht | a lot. |
| 22:55.22 | Xinhuan | the kara ones before chess... and? |
| 22:55.30 | Mudkips | when feral forms don't weild weapons O.o |
| 22:55.30 | Xinhuan | well TBC raiding mobs that is |
| 22:55.32 | NivFreak | moroes's MS add |
| 22:55.38 | NivFreak | lots of 5 man mobs |
| 22:55.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Mudkips: they do |
| 22:55.44 | sag_ich_nicht | the "feral weapon" |
| 22:55.47 | sag_ich_nicht | 1.0 attack speed |
| 22:55.53 | sag_ich_nicht | etc. |
| 22:55.53 | Mudkips | errr right |
| 22:55.54 | Xinhuan | moroes MS add disarms? never knew that one |
| 22:55.57 | NivFreak | yep |
| 22:55.59 | NivFreak | it sucks |
| 22:56.03 | NivFreak | I usually tank him plus moroes |
| 22:56.09 | NivFreak | sometimes I forget my weapon chain |
| 22:56.09 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:56.13 | Xinhuan | we usually just Shackle him |
| 22:56.20 | Xinhuan | and kill him last |
| 22:56.23 | NivFreak | I only bring one CC |
| 22:56.25 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 22:56.27 | NivFreak | we shack the ret paladin |
| 22:56.30 | sag_ich_nicht | we kill them with no CC fine |
| 22:56.31 | NivFreak | since he stuns |
| 22:56.32 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 22:57.06 | Xinhuan | i once 9-manned moroes, with only 1 tank in the whole raid of 9 |
| 22:57.26 | espai | i soloed skettis escort quest |
| 22:57.33 | sag_ich_nicht | i once 9-manned your m... no that would be really low and cheap. |
| 22:57.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i can do lower. |
| 22:57.37 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 22:57.39 | masanbol | :O :O :O :O :O |
| 22:57.43 | Xinhuan | 1 tank meaning a prot warrior, no druids, no prot pally! |
| 22:57.58 | espai | 1 WHOLE tank? like all items and spec and such? wow |
| 22:57.59 | NivFreak | moroes is easy enough to solo tank |
| 22:58.07 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 22:58.09 | NivFreak | just turn your back until your CDs are up |
| 22:58.15 | NivFreak | spin, drop a SS/Rev/HS |
| 22:58.17 | NivFreak | spin back |
| 22:58.17 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 22:58.21 | sag_ich_nicht | you had a TANK in there? |
| 22:58.24 | espai | like |
| 22:58.27 | sag_ich_nicht | INSIDE of karazhan? |
| 22:58.28 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 22:58.28 | espai | those ones from iraq? |
| 22:58.34 | sag_ich_nicht | that must have been hard to fit thru the door |
| 22:58.35 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 22:58.36 | NivFreak | moroes hates me |
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| 22:58.40 | sag_ich_nicht | (see, told you i can do lower) |
| 22:58.42 | espai | no he doesnt |
| 22:58.43 | NivFreak | took 20 weeks to drop a pocket watch for me |
| 22:58.47 | NivFreak | still no belt... |
| 22:58.55 | espai | garrote 4 times in a row? |
| 22:58.59 | Xinhuan | ~slap sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:59.00 | purl | ACTION slaps sag_ich_nicht, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:59.01 | Xinhuan | <3 |
| 22:59.09 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r50563 10CooldownTimers2/Core.lua: |
| 22:59.09 | CIA-12 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 22:59.09 | CIA-12 | - Raised max time from 300s to 3600s (1 hr). If you dont want your hearthstone to show up, or anything else over a certain amount of time, just use the options to disable that item. |
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| 23:01.34 | Xinhuan | Kaelten: wtb august and sepetember download statistics :) |
| 23:02.02 | Xinhuan | for each addon! |
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| 23:02.41 | Industrial | wtb integrated download/readme/screenshot. |
| 23:02.52 | Mecdemort | ok what's this new addon config window with a minimap icon of a screw |
| 23:03.07 | Towbar | and password logger |
| 23:03.09 | Towbar | a* |
| 23:03.13 | Xinhuan | Mecdemort - ckknight changed it ;p |
| 23:03.36 | Mecdemort | sob, now how do i turn this one off |
| 23:03.46 | Xinhuan | click on the thing itself |
| 23:03.52 | Xinhuan | and hide the minimap icon |
| 23:04.02 | Xinhuan | same way you hide the rock icon |
| 23:04.17 | Mecdemort | its just bringing up fubar preferences |
| 23:04.31 | Xinhuan | see the dropdown box at the top left? |
| 23:04.44 | Xinhuan | it contains a list of addons (and rock itself) |
| 23:05.08 | Mecdemort | it's called 'Addon Preferences' instead of rock now... |
| 23:05.35 | Xinhuan | essentially the same thing |
| 23:05.38 | Xinhuan | just renamed |
| 23:05.58 | Mudkips | how sneaky |
| 23:06.51 | Xinhuan | the Fubar Options --> hide minimap icon |
| 23:06.55 | Xinhuan | thing hides the icon |
| 23:06.58 | Xinhuan | as far as i can tell |
| 23:07.30 | Mecdemort | ya apparently he made a fubar pluggin for rock |
| 23:08.29 | Xinhuan | he simply added that to librockconfig |
| 23:08.31 | JCinDE | Well technically it was never "Rock". Rock is the new framework and it's still there. And the improvements he's made to the config interface are quite good if you ask me. |
| 23:08.33 | Xinhuan | not a bad idea actually |
| 23:08.35 | LetheKai|AFK | Hmm, can anyone remember the name of that mod that displays spell/ability cooldowns in big numbers on the spell icon itself? I haven't used it for a couple years, can't remember the name. |
| 23:08.48 | Mudkips | cooldowncount |
| 23:08.50 | Xinhuan | LetheKai|AFK: CoolDownCount |
| 23:08.54 | Mudkips | too slow |
| 23:08.57 | LetheKai|AFK | lol |
| 23:09.00 | Xinhuan | however, i recommend OmniCC over CoolDownCount |
| 23:09.05 | LetheKai|AFK | Thanks. I though... yeah! |
| 23:09.09 | LetheKai|AFK | OmniCC I think that was it. |
| 23:09.14 | Xinhuan | the last 5 times i used CDC, it has taint issues |
| 23:09.23 | LetheKai|AFK | Thanks a lot. =D |
| 23:09.35 | NivFreak | man |
| 23:09.42 | NivFreak | I had a 1117 Devastate on Aran |
| 23:09.43 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:09.59 | Mudkips | is that the only difference Xinhuan? |
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| 23:10.08 | Xinhuan | not sure |
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| 23:10.33 | Xinhuan | looking at omnicc's code, it creates a cooldown counting frame for every button that requires one, ONLY when there is a need to |
| 23:10.49 | Xinhuan | cooldowncount seems to pre-create one whether you need it or not |
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| 23:11.37 | Mudkips | okay I'll try out omnicc |
| 23:11.53 | Xinhuan | for example, if you equipped 2 trinkets that don't have On Use effects, omniCC wouldn't even create the countdown frame for it |
| 23:11.56 | Xinhuan | on your paperdoll |
| 23:12.04 | LetheKai|AFK | I haven't tried CoolDownCount, but I loved OmniCC when I used it. Just forgot to get it since I came back to WoW. |
| 23:12.06 | Mudkips | if it's a more efficient addon vs cdc as you say |
| 23:12.38 | kenlyric | and cdc has been horked for weeks. |
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| 23:12.49 | Xinhuan | CDC was a ported addon, as opposed to one that was written in ace2 from scratch |
| 23:13.44 | Xinhuan | also omnicc works on anything that has a cooldown, you don't need seperate plugins, etc for every bar addon, etc |
| 23:14.10 | Xinhuan | since omnicc hooks onto the cooldown frame type |
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| 23:14.32 | Ackis | <-- smacks head into wall |
| 23:14.46 | kenlyric | omnicc clique and auctioneer are my non-ace addons, because of their awesomeness. |
| 23:14.53 | Xinhuan | wall says: Ouch |
| 23:15.14 | pakoz | anyone know how to make quartz stop reseting the swing timer on sword procs? |
| 23:15.21 | Antiarc | Why would you want to? |
| 23:15.29 | Antiarc | Sword procs actually do reset your swing timer |
| 23:15.35 | kenlyric | uh... |
| 23:15.41 | Mudkips | lol |
| 23:16.04 | pakoz | nah it doesnt |
| 23:16.38 | Antiarc | Oh, they changed that, didn't they? |
| 23:16.44 | Mudkips | it should |
| 23:16.47 | Amadeo | uh, my server isn't even in the list..lol |
| 23:16.58 | LetheKai|AFK | Ken: Those're mine, too, +ItemRack. |
| 23:16.59 | Mudkips | make warriors insta kill me faster pls |
| 23:18.02 | Amadeo | Done! |
| 23:18.14 | pakoz | just make sure you spam sit |
| 23:18.26 | Ackis | for some reason I'm missing 1 value in my array and I don't know where it went :( did it go into that empty black void?!?! |
| 23:18.36 | Necrathex | armory down? |
| 23:20.57 | Lukian | Recommended addon for shaman totems? |
| 23:22.37 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50564 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/TempestKeep/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: |
| 23:22.37 | CIA-12 | Threat-1.0: |
| 23:22.37 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 23:24.53 | Mudkips | gotwood? |
| 23:24.56 | Mudkips | was that it? |
| 23:25.05 | Antiarc | http://www.godmodeonline.com/d/20070924.html |
| 23:25.08 | aestil | antiarc, they changed swords, swords is bomb now. but I want to try Fist MH / Sword OH spec. |
| 23:25.15 | Towbar | for shammy totems i use numen i think |
| 23:25.22 | Towbar | small and simple |
| 23:25.29 | sag_ich_nicht | night guys |
| 23:25.38 | sag_ich_nicht | and good luck Antiarc >< |
| 23:26.00 | sag_ich_nicht | (at finding that bug, hurhur *sigh* *stabs something into his own forehead*) |
| 23:26.01 | Towbar | what did they do to swords? |
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| 23:27.12 | CIA-12 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50565 10TankPoints/ (TankPoints-Locale-enUS.lua TankPoints.lua): |
| 23:27.12 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 23:27.12 | CIA-12 | - add /tp mob drdamage - lets you set mob damage based on post-mitigation damage |
| 23:27.12 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.22 | jag111 | hey guys |
| 23:27.31 | jag111 | I'm thinking of writing a fubar addon for VoiceChat |
| 23:27.48 | jag111 | any idea where i can get the api calls to turn it on/off via fubar, and show who is currently talking? |
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| 23:28.21 | Stanzilla2 | jag111: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 |
| 23:28.55 | kenlyric | duke nukem.. now there's a fresh topic. |
| 23:28.58 | jag111 | I don't see VoiceChat functions there... |
| 23:29.09 | kenlyric | besides, mC is a chick |
| 23:29.39 | JCinDE | Antiarc: Have you heard anyone having trouble with Threat's version reporting? |
| 23:30.05 | Antiarc | No. What specifically? |
| 23:31.08 | JCinDE | I was in a 25 man last night and about a dozen people were reporting no Threat compatible mod...but they DID have it. |
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| 23:31.22 | JCinDE | we require Omen for everyone |
| 23:31.29 | Lukian | JCinDE, and did they update it before the raid? |
| 23:31.33 | Ackis | is there a way to get the size of an array (ie: number of elements in it?) |
| 23:31.39 | Xinhuan | i'm having some weird issues with Omen where half the raid can't see the other half |
| 23:31.41 | jag111 | Anyone know if voice chat APIs are on wowwiki anywhere? |
| 23:31.44 | JCinDE | I don't know |
| 23:31.47 | Xinhuan | Ackis: what kind of array |
| 23:31.59 | Recluse | did the rock config window turn into an icon with a wrench, or am i seeing things? |
| 23:32.01 | JCinDE | They were showing up in Omen during the fights |
| 23:32.04 | Xinhuan | is it numerically indexed? |
| 23:32.11 | Xinhuan | Recluse: yes, the icon changed |
| 23:32.25 | Xinhuan | and ckk renamed the window from Rock to Addon Config |
| 23:32.33 | Ackis | no, it's basically like a hash table... I've been using next(), however I'm missing an entry somewhere and I'm trying to track it down |
| 23:32.37 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r50566 10simpleMinimap/ (localizations.lua simpleMinimap.lua): |
| 23:32.37 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 23:32.37 | CIA-12 | - Added ability to hide voice chat button (still needs to be localized to languages other than english, please make changes and commit them directly if you have the ability to) |
| 23:32.44 | Recluse | thought i downloaded some other addon by mistake there XD |
| 23:32.48 | ckknight | Xinhuan: actually, I didn't rename it, I just removed the name entirely :-P |
| 23:32.52 | Xinhuan | ackis: then no there is no way to know the size of a table |
| 23:32.56 | kenlyric | yay speeddy! |
| 23:32.59 | Xinhuan | that is hashed |
| 23:33.13 | Xinhuan | unless you manually keep a count, or count via a pairs() loop |
| 23:33.28 | Xinhuan | well that's technically a rename ckk ;p |
| 23:33.30 | charon | wtf happened with 2.3... horde on my battlegroup suddenly puts up one hell of a fight in AV, alliance used to win like 3 in 4 times before |
| 23:33.38 | Xinhuan | since it still has a name! |
| 23:33.41 | Kaydeethree | charon; it's the anti-AFK measures |
| 23:33.47 | Xinhuan | charon: anti-afk thingy |
| 23:33.47 | kenlyric | charon, it's because they fight at all. |
| 23:33.52 | ZealotOnAStick | 2.2, and people can't sit afk in the cave and leech honor |
| 23:34.03 | Ackis | is RecipeName = next(RecipeListing, RecipeName); equivelent to parsing it w/ a pairs() loop? |
| 23:34.05 | Megalon | so they are afk at the front and leech honor |
| 23:34.11 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2041159435&postId=19943994289&sid=1#380 |
| 23:34.21 | Xinhuan | Ackis: yes |
| 23:34.34 | Xinhuan | Ackis: yes, as long as you don't modify the table in anyway while in that loop |
| 23:34.42 | Xinhuan | as in, no new entries |
| 23:35.13 | charon | i see |
| 23:35.13 | Xinhuan | you can modify entries, or delete entries you already looped through, but adding new entries gives pairs() and next() undefined behavior |
| 23:35.16 | Ackis | i don't... hmmm i've lost an entry and I can't find it then lol |
| 23:35.46 | Speeddymon_ | kenlyric: still gotta figure out the bug with gatherer and fluidframes.. seems that mappy works fine with those 2, but smm bugs out and causes the frame level for the gatherer icons to go to 0, instead of leaving it at 2.... |
| 23:35.52 | Xinhuan | well sounds like you have a program logic error there somewhere |
| 23:36.06 | JCinDE | I'm asking everyone to update their Omen before tomorrow's Gruul and I'll see if it's still happening. |
| 23:36.29 | Mudkips | it still helps if they afk at the front |
| 23:36.43 | Mudkips | more meat for allies to chew up while the real players go around |
| 23:37.22 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: i've got cases where, A and B can't see each other's threat, C can see both A and B, and D can see neither A not B |
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| 23:37.32 | Xinhuan | its just weird |
| 23:37.40 | Xinhuan | and a reloadui sometime fixes that |
| 23:37.43 | CIA-12 | 03jncl * r50567 10Skinner/AddonSkins/RockConfig.lua: Skinner: Fix for RockConfig error |
| 23:37.47 | Xinhuan | and sometimes doesn't |
| 23:38.00 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 23:38.23 | Antiarc | I'll see if I can put in some kind of periodic synch check or something. |
| 23:38.26 | Xinhuan | could there be a memoization error somewhere? |
| 23:38.35 | jag111 | Is there a simple way i can output the result of a script command to the chat window? |
| 23:38.41 | Xinhuan | would be pretty hard to track down |
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| 23:39.06 | jag111 | like, i want to show the value of this statement: IsVoiceChatEnabled() |
| 23:39.08 | Antiarc | Ooh - |
| 23:39.16 | Antiarc | Make sure they've updated all their ace libraries |
| 23:39.17 | Xinhuan | jag111: if you have any ace addon, you can /print <expression> |
| 23:39.27 | jag111 | ah, thanks |
| 23:39.27 | Antiarc | There was a change to AceComm when 2.2 hit that may be backwards incompatible |
| 23:40.09 | Xinhuan | well i'm sure anyone using any ace addon would have at least updated one ace addon with acecomm in it T_T |
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| 23:40.55 | Antiarc | Yes, hopefully |
| 23:41.11 | Antiarc | There's just been some weirdness between AceComm-pre2.2/LibAceComm/AceComm-post2.2 |
| 23:41.11 | baer_ | AtlasLoot_BCInstance has Zul'Aman-loot by now? oO |
| 23:41.23 | baer_ | is ZA already on some testservers? |
| 23:41.27 | Antiarc | Anyhow, see if it fixes it. If not, then I'll see what else I can track down. |
| 23:42.00 | Xinhuan | do you think you can change threat-1.0 to also inform us the acecomm or acelib revision? |
| 23:42.08 | Xinhuan | might be helpful |
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| 23:43.08 | jag111 | ok i see some voice functions on wowwiki... |
| 23:43.09 | jag111 | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Voice_Chat_Functions |
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| 23:43.15 | jag111 | is that all of them? |
| 23:43.19 | Trell_ | just a quick question before I shoot off to bed; logging into wow is dc'ing my router for some reason |
| 23:43.27 | jag111 | how do i do things to change voice chat optiuons via an addon? |
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| 23:43.50 | Ellipsis | Trell_: new router IMO |
| 23:43.53 | Trell_ | nothing else internet related is doing it - if I stop attempting to log into wow, my internet stays on. If I try and login, I get into the game, 5 seconds later, my router restarts |
| 23:43.55 | JCinDE | ckknight: Any chance frames in Pitbull could get a setting that can force them not to show in a raid? |
| 23:43.57 | Trell_ | any ideas? |
| 23:44.03 | Xinhuan | i think someone is updating VolumeFu to include voicecomms stuff |
| 23:44.05 | Xinhuan | not sure |
| 23:44.05 | Trell_ | and Ellipsis; a new router isn't going to help me right now |
| 23:44.07 | Trell_ | :P |
| 23:44.15 | Ellipsis | hmph |
| 23:44.29 | Ellipsis | open ports or set up DMZ for your comp, might bypass whatever is crashing it |
| 23:44.39 | Towbar | what router have you>? |
| 23:44.44 | Trell_ | besides I refuse to believe its a router problem, or I'd be going on and off after any internet action |
| 23:44.45 | Towbar | and is it dsl or cable |
| 23:44.52 | Trell_ | a Linksys |
| 23:44.55 | jag111 | Xinhuan: i'm trying to wrte a fubar plugin specifically for voice |
| 23:45.01 | Towbar | have you updated the firmware? |
| 23:45.07 | jag111 | show you who's talking, click to toggle on/off, etc |
| 23:45.16 | Trell_ | actually sorry, that was my old on |
| 23:45.19 | Trell_ | *one |
| 23:45.27 | Trell_ | this is a 'ZyXEL' |
| 23:45.34 | Towbar | dsl or cable |
| 23:45.36 | Trell_ | dsl |
| 23:45.41 | Xinhuan | jag111: i'm going to guess that because voicechat in wow is new, nobody has ever attempted to study the API available yet, apart from maybe 1 or 2 unitframe authors ;p |
| 23:45.41 | Towbar | zyxel are cheap btw |
| 23:45.49 | Trell_ | its ISP branded |
| 23:45.57 | Xinhuan | you'll have to infer from the FrameXML files |
| 23:46.01 | Towbar | hence they branded it |
| 23:46.01 | Trell_ | one up from the free one you get |
| 23:46.16 | jag111 | Xinhuan: hehe i guess you're right...trying to get it done before someone else writes it (it'll be my first addon, seems pretty simple) |
| 23:46.22 | Trell_ | and re the firmware, not updated, no |
| 23:46.27 | Towbar | is the only thing that DC's you a wow connection? |
| 23:46.29 | Xinhuan | what are you going to have in it? |
| 23:46.34 | Trell_ | it only seems to have started happening since about 2 hrs ago |
| 23:46.39 | Trell_ | yeah, Towbar |
| 23:46.52 | Xinhuan | note that up to 5 ppl can be talking at the same time, according to WoW's Voice Chat FAQ (and only 5 max) |
| 23:47.03 | Towbar | what model is it? |
| 23:47.05 | Trell_ | I can get into the char select screen fine, but when the game logs in, it dc's my router after 5s or so |
| 23:47.16 | jag111 | Xinhuan: i am thinking green light if it's on, red if its off....Left-Click to toggle on/off, text will show you who is currently speaking (the last person to speak), right-click mutes/unmutes your mic |
| 23:47.22 | jag111 | that's what i got so far anyway |
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| 23:47.48 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 23:47.49 | Towbar | jag: nice idea |
| 23:47.51 | Trell_ | honestly, idk, Towbar |
| 23:48.02 | Trell_ | i just know how to reset it when it screws up occasionally |
| 23:48.15 | Xinhuan | well honestly, i already do believe VolumeFu is adding all those already |
| 23:48.18 | jag111 | Towbar: thanks :) - i just know i use VoiceOverlay with vent, and i dont want to not see who is talking |
| 23:48.19 | Towbar | so it doesnt do it everytime? |
| 23:48.21 | Xinhuan | or at least someone posted about it a while back |
| 23:48.22 | Trell_ | thats all i've ever *needed* to know |
| 23:48.35 | Xinhuan | on wowace forums |
| 23:48.40 | Xinhuan | can try searching for it |
| 23:48.44 | Towbar | jeg: 2 monitors with vent on second ftw :) |
| 23:48.47 | Towbar | jag* |
| 23:48.48 | jag111 | I posted about it on Wowinterface... |
| 23:48.51 | CIA-12 | 03charon 07charon * r50568 10Omen/Omen/OmenThreatBar.lua: Omen: show something useful on the aggro gain pullout if the player has aggro |
| 23:48.55 | Trell_ | 'Towbar> so it doesnt do it everytime?' - if thats directed at me, no, it's never happened before, but since about 2 hours ago, it does it every time, yes |
| 23:49.05 | Towbar | ahhh |
| 23:49.11 | Towbar | turn your router off for 35 mins |
| 23:49.18 | Ackis | Speeddymon are you there? |
| 23:49.22 | Ellipsis | Trell_: did your server just get voice chat or something? |
| 23:49.25 | jag111 | i forgot to change my nick, lol....Secutanudu is my nick on the wowinterface forums... |
| 23:49.28 | Towbar | at the telephone exchange there is a DSLAM that provides your broadband |
| 23:49.34 | Xinhuan | i don't use voice overlay, more or less know what everyone sounds like already ;p |
| 23:49.34 | Trell_ | shouldn't have done, Ellipsis |
| 23:49.46 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 23:49.47 | Xinhuan | plus also have vent on second monitor lol |
| 23:49.56 | Towbar | there is usually a 30 min timeout on adsl connections here in the UK, so once you turn your router back on it makes a new connection |
| 23:50.10 | Trell_ | I can do that through telnet anyway, Towbar |
| 23:50.14 | Towbar | have seen that fix many problems in work |
| 23:50.16 | Trell_ | hard reset or w/e it is |
| 23:50.20 | Towbar | nope you missingteh point |
| 23:50.24 | Towbar | missing the* |
| 23:50.32 | Trell_ | forces the router to drop the current one and assign a new 'outside' ip |
| 23:50.39 | Towbar | seriously unplug the power of disconnect the telephone lead |
| 23:50.49 | Trell_ | I can't live without Ellipsis, though |
| 23:50.52 | Towbar | that still uses teh same connection from the DSLAM to your ISP |
| 23:50.58 | Trell_ | ^^ |
| 23:50.58 | Ellipsis | Trell_, DHCP renew ~= DSL restart |
| 23:51.00 | Towbar | and that is the connection I think you need to reest |
| 23:51.11 | Trell_ | sersiouyl though, I'm just gonna goto bed, so I'll switch it off till tomorrow morning |
| 23:51.13 | Trell_ | and hope that works |
| 23:51.16 | Trell_ | thanks ;) |
| 23:51.16 | Ellipsis | gl <3 |
| 23:51.21 | Towbar | gl :) |
| 23:51.25 | Trell_ | ty |
| 23:51.27 | Towbar | speaking of bed, gnite |
| 23:51.42 | *** join/#wowace vileP (n=chatzill@c-71-198-18-163.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:52.14 | aestil | apparently, you are not interested in the procurment of free coffee ellipsis |
| 23:52.20 | aestil | nor are you interested in seeing how the other half lives. |
| 23:53.03 | Ellipsis | I is sorry |
| 23:53.08 | Ellipsis | I wanted so much to go |
| 23:53.13 | Ellipsis | but stuff came up |
| 23:53.15 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 23:53.25 | aestil | i see. |
| 23:53.26 | Ellipsis | first, my bf overslept rather than getting up early |
| 23:53.31 | kebinusan | hm, can you still get the onyxia buff at 70 |
| 23:53.33 | Ellipsis | then I realized I don't have anything to wear |
| 23:53.36 | aestil | lol. |
| 23:53.37 | Ellipsis | so I can't really go out |
| 23:53.38 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 23:53.49 | Ellipsis | I promise I will sometime though |
| 23:53.50 | aestil | well, then, if you aren't wearing anything, i'm sure I know what came up this morning. |
| 23:53.53 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 23:53.53 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 23:54.06 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@adsl-76-226-67-117.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:54.15 | Ellipsis | do you work weekends? that way my bf can come with |
| 23:54.29 | Antiarc | aestil: http://xkcd.com/322/ |
| 23:54.40 | Megalon | joanna. fire! |
| 23:55.03 | Antiarc | <3 xkcd |
| 23:55.14 | Megalon | the ballmer peak is also nice ;D |
| 23:55.16 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50569 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix check to see if the FuBar plugin is hidden. |
| 23:55.18 | hyperChipmunk | there's an xkcd for all occasions |
| 23:55.20 | Ellipsis | oh, and aestil - protip: I need your name so I at least know who to ask for :P |
| 23:55.40 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50570 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 23:55.40 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:55.40 | CIA-12 | - GUI coming along, can parse recipes (no filter yet), but it shows the recipe names |
| 23:55.40 | CIA-12 | - I think I may have introduced a bug on displaying recipes, if you notice the |
| 23:55.41 | CIA-12 | number of missing recipes being different than what are displayed please let me |
| 23:55.43 | CIA-12 | know. Please. (ie: Says you know 172 out of 178, and are missing 6 recipes, |
| 23:55.45 | CIA-12 | however only displays 5 recipes without a filter on). |
| 23:56.04 | kebinusan | yeah I love xkcd |
| 23:56.09 | kebinusan | todays is amusing |
| 23:56.34 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 23:56.34 | aestil | oh noes Antiarc, did i offend? Ellipsis, i was just poking fun/play on words with you. |
| 23:56.37 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 23:56.53 | Antiarc | aestil: Nah, I just wanted an excuse to link the comic. :P |
| 23:56.56 | hyperChipmunk | automated Schnapps I.V. |
| 23:57.25 | hyperChipmunk | the alt-text is often funnier than the actual comic |
| 23:57.26 | aestil | she followed 'something came up' with 'i don't have any clothes' i felt the pull of the *too easy joke* |
| 23:57.42 | Ellipsis | that's not what you were feeling |
| 23:57.43 | Ellipsis | don't lie |
| 23:57.52 | aestil | i think thats what I was feeling |
| 23:58.02 | aestil | Antiarc: do you have any rogues who are MH Fist / OH Sword? |
| 23:58.12 | Antiarc | aestil: Not right now, no |
| 23:58.27 | Antiarc | I'm full swords because...well, my swords are better than my S1 fist :P |
| 23:58.45 | aestil | But what might you gain from the 5% extra MH and SS crit? |
| 23:58.50 | aestil | *boggle* |
| 23:58.57 | aestil | get a S2 Fist or the Al'ar Fist |
| 23:59.08 | Antiarc | Al'ar won't put out |
| 23:59.11 | hyperChipmunk | well, gee |
| 23:59.15 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, Antiarc |
| 23:59.24 | aestil | ok, you are interested in trying it also then? |
| 23:59.25 | hyperChipmunk | just stroll up to him and say 'wtf gimmeh fist' |
| 23:59.45 | Ellipsis | that's not the fist you're looking for |
| 23:59.48 | Ellipsis | x.x |
| 23:59.50 | Antiarc | I'd try it out if I could pick up the fist for minimum DKP, but my current setup lands me a solid first on anything but an Al'ar kill these days |
| 23:59.52 | *** join/#wowace RogueShadow (n=RogueSha@adsl-69-208-85-159.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 23:59.59 | Antiarc | So I don't have a lot of incentive to swird |
