IRC log for #wowace on 20070929

00:00.05Ellipsisgg aestil, gg
00:00.06*** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.173.139.197)
00:00.14Ellipsiswhat was it, ToT? :P
00:00.28KarlThePagan39.8 MB (28.5 MB on disk)
00:00.45KarlThePaganAdvanced -> Compress contents to save disk space
00:00.56Grumaestil: /print GetFocus():GetName()? :D
00:01.01KarlThePaganand mine includes my own abandoned addon projects ;)
00:01.06EllipsisKarlThePagan: I cry for you
00:01.10Ellipsismine too lol
00:01.15Grumi'm so not zipping these up
00:01.26EllipsisGrum: ...
00:01.27KarlThePagandepends what OS you run
00:01.29Grumi actually got all addons without externals now
00:01.36Grumso it should be less than before O.o
00:01.42GrumKarlThePagan: windows* .. bad idea
00:01.44JCinDEWoot! Got my SVN access. So advise me...should I seek to take over the TrackerFu project or just rename my rebuild of it to TrackerFu2?
00:01.56KarlThePaganmeh... use the right tools for the job :P
00:01.57aestilgrum, i know the names of pitbul frames, i'm just stupid.
00:02.00aestilno.
00:02.03Grumhehe
00:02.04KarlThePaganWinTendo is for games
00:02.07aestilframe2 is my pet.
00:02.08KarlThePaganLinux is for work
00:02.09Stanzilla2JCinDE: just update the old version
00:02.23Grumso what linux os has a nice ide for 'compress folder'? =D
00:02.27aestilbut PitBullFrame2 != PitBull*UNIT*Frame2
00:02.57GrumJCinDE: it's nice to tag the current version
00:03.09Ellipsissweet, 15.4MB
00:03.09Antiarchttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298501,00.html
00:03.25KarlThePaganGrum, you could use cramfs it you really want to compress your addons
00:03.33KarlThePaganbut ... it would be a lot of work to do that
00:04.00GrumEllipsis: you optimizing weasel
00:04.05Ellipsisinorite
00:04.26`-FISKER_Q\become an hero Antiarc
00:04.26`-FISKER_Q\!
00:04.27EllipsisI already got rid of XRS and oRA2 because I'm not raiding and they both supply like 10 bar textures
00:04.38GrumEllipsis: lol
00:04.51aestilalmost done now.  just need to panel omen and SWS.
00:04.51Grumyou are silly :D
00:04.51KarlThePaganI'm going to update LHCP for 2.2 and addmore high quality samples and then I'll be at like 200M ;)
00:04.55Ellipsisoh man
00:04.56aestilmaybe i'll send you a backup Ellipsis
00:05.02EllipsisI'm disowning teh Seahawks now
00:05.23Grumaestil: are you actually goind to hide the parent header frame of SWS ?
00:05.29MaytrixIndianapolis Colts FTW
00:05.32Grumor just color it 'blackish' ?
00:05.47aestilgrum, i just make a resizing script for SWS and omen.
00:06.04aestiluh.
00:06.12aestili dunno.
00:06.20aestilit'll look boring like the rest of my panels.
00:06.43Grummmm resizing script
00:06.47Grumdunno what to expect from that :D
00:07.44EllipsisGrum: I'm not silly, I have limited hard drive space
00:07.58GrumEllipsis: but that doesnt go down to mbs right? :)
00:08.03Grumburn some of the pr0n you have otherwise
00:08.03Ellipsisyou'd be surprised
00:08.17EllipsisI don't have any porn
00:08.20EllipsisI don't have room for it
00:08.30EllipsisI don't have music or movies or anything
00:08.36EllipsisI just have games and a very small hard drive
00:08.39*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)
00:08.47aestilgirls don't like porn anyways.
00:08.58aestili don't really like pron and i'm a guy, i can't imagine girls liking it.
00:09.02KarlThePagankek
00:09.05Grumhow big is your harddrive then?
00:09.06ZiconI like porn.
00:09.08*** join/#wowace Tsikura (n=tsikura@user-0cev19g.cable.mindspring.com)
00:09.12ZiconBest comedies ever.
00:09.17EllipsisGrum: my main partition is about 35GB
00:09.59Grumauch
00:10.06Grumand you have more than just wow ? :D
00:10.18Grumwow: size on disk - 8.84 GB (9,498,320,896 bytes)
00:10.24GrumO.o
00:10.36EllipsisGrum: Steam, BF2
00:10.41Ellipsisthose are the big ones at least
00:10.56Grumauch
00:11.01Grumand laptopdisks are expensive
00:11.05Ellipsisyeah
00:11.05Grumwhat about a cheap external one? :)
00:11.12EllipsisI use an external one for WoW already
00:11.14Ellipsisbecause I ran out of space
00:11.19Ellipsisand the external is faster
00:11.24Ellipsisreduces my load times a bit
00:11.35KarlThePaganGrum, delete your patches
00:11.58AntiarcSo uh
00:12.01Antiarchttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2040216076&pageNo=1&sid=1#2
00:12.01Grumpatches: 59.4 MB (62,377,984 bytes)
00:12.03MrUsefulURL: WoW Forums -> FPS Issues and WoW Errors
00:12.05Grumnot that big
00:12.06CIA-2203ag 07andreasg * r50196 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: Internal changes to string system
00:13.19Ellipsisgg Antiarc
00:13.24Antiarcgg indeed.
00:13.47KarlThePagangg testing their shit for them ;)
00:13.50Ellipsislol
00:13.50AntiarcIt really seems like a) that should throw a Lua error on both platforms, and b) not cause a freaking client exception on Macs
00:14.11Ellipsisit really seems like a) you're trusting Blizz to actually do their job
00:14.11AntiarcIt silently fails on the PC client
00:14.13Ellipsis.
00:14.18AntiarcWhich is why I missed it initially
00:14.23KarlThePaganyea ;)
00:14.23AntiarcSomeone buy me a Mac
00:14.34KarlThePaganmy wife will kill me if i play wow on her mac
00:14.57EllipsisI still don't see why their frame code should be different between PC and Mac clients
00:15.12Ellipsisit seems to me that should be abstracted out of platform-specific bits
00:15.14Recluseis CHAT_MSG_LOOT supposed to fire 4 times for each item? XD
00:15.24AntiarcEllipsis: The mac has debug assertations turned on
00:15.29AntiarcThe PC client just silently eats them
00:15.30aestilwow, i'm back up to 37MB of addon memory.
00:15.38JCinDEI can't believe my guild is short on DPS to go to Gruul...how the heck does that happen? heh
00:15.48aestili was down to like.... 28 yesterday?  could adding a few more eePanels make that big a difference?
00:15.49AntiarcJCinDE: Lern2unstable flask? :)
00:15.53Maytrixwho else is not liking the software sound driver
00:15.59aestilJCinDE: stop doing gruul?
00:16.30EllipsisAntiarc: so Blizz was just like "hey we can't test the Mac client enough, let's leave the debug code in for the users to test for us!"?
00:16.32JCinDEno I mean we have plenty of tanks, plenty of healers, but our DPS poeple aren't online. Usually everyone wants to be DPS. Just ironic.
00:16.35ArcaiaEllipsis: not any hud will work, I can't turn off the texts on IceHud >.<
00:16.40AntiarcEllipsis: Apparnetly
00:16.45AntiarcExcept spelled properly
00:16.50EllipsisArcaia: failt
00:16.59Ellipsiswhat hey I can spell
00:17.01Ellipsissorta
00:17.09AntiarcI misspelled "apparently"
00:17.14Ellipsisoh
00:17.25AmadeoIs there a way to set or save the previous location of WoW's window in windowed mode?
00:17.27EllipsisI assumed it was me typoing something
00:17.30KarlThePagantoo much platform-neutral abstraction is a bad idea
00:17.44AntiarcKarlThePagan: Not when it comes to the Lua scripting engine :)
00:17.58Ellipsisat the Lua level, *nothing* should be platform-dependent
00:18.03KarlThePaganwell that's defining a new platform basically ;)
00:18.04Ellipsislet the graphics code deal with that
00:18.29Ellipsisthe only differences between the two clients should be in API availability
00:18.51KarlThePaganfor apps like wow I completely agree
00:19.19Ellipsisthen why say it's "too much" abstraction? :P
00:19.39KarlThePaganin the general case it is extremely difficult to pull off
00:19.59KarlThePagansee worsethanfailure.com
00:20.08KarlThePagan"business logic layer" etc
00:20.09EllipsisI already read tdwtf :P
00:20.33Grumwhats the 'get the type of data'-statement in lua? type(something) == "table" orso?
00:20.43EllipsisBlizzard is in no danger of turning the Lua environment enterprisey
00:20.49aestilwhy does perfFu say 'current addon memory 26.5' and then i'm actually using 36 at log in?  where is that extra 10MBgoing?
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00:21.08Solethemani>i don't hate canada, canada is like your little brother with downs who thinks he can fly.. its cute, you kinda  give him a noogie and move on
00:21.10Solerofl
00:21.15KarlThePaganexcept for some sytems designed from the lowest levels to be multiplatform (opengl) ... making magic screwdrivers will lead to failure
00:21.21Ellipsisaestil: GC?
00:21.26AmadeoMythic picked up Lua for Warhammer Online :D
00:21.32Ellipsiswhere are you getting the 36 from?
00:21.34ag`lol
00:21.38ag`port ace tbh
00:21.44LetheKai|MiningDoes that mean they're gonna allow all the customization WoW does, Amadeo?
00:21.47Amadeohaha
00:21.54AmadeoLetheKai|Mining: No idea, I hope so!
00:21.55aestil39.1 after GC and having played for a few minutes.
00:21.57EllipsisLua != the API
00:22.17LetheKai|MiningI hope so, too.  That's one of the huge reasons I love WoW.
00:22.18ag`well
00:22.19AmadeoDAoC had some nice customization back in the day, for its time anyway
00:22.24ag`frames and events might work differntly
00:22.38AmadeoI just hope Warhammer is good in the first place!
00:22.44Kody[17:21] <LetheKai|Mining> Does that mean they're gonna allow all the customization WoW does, Amadeo? - Yes
00:22.49KodyWell
00:22.50LetheKai|MiningI tried to get some mods for Vanguard and it was an ugly situation.
00:22.50KodySort of
00:22.55KodyEllipsis is right
00:22.59aestili'm just wondering what would take my addon from 26.5 addon memory to 36MB at startup.
00:23.00KodyIt depends on what they allow with the API
00:23.02AmadeoLetheKai|Mining: I am anti-McQuaid :P
00:23.06Ellipsisof course I'm right, I'm always right
00:23.08LetheKai|MiningHaha Amadeo.
00:23.10Ellipsis^-^
00:23.20LetheKai|MiningSorry, what's API?
00:23.23Ellipsis(and modest, too)
00:23.33EllipsisLetheKai|Mining: the functions they provide to actually interact with the game code
00:23.40LetheKai|MiningOhh.
00:23.42LetheKai|MiningThank you.
00:23.45EllipsisLua in itself can't display anything, or get info from the game
00:23.53LetheKai|MiningI hope they take the hint from Blizz.
00:23.58KodyYou can expect most games to allow close to if not at the same level of customization for the UI that WoW does from here out
00:23.59Ellipsisprobably will
00:24.11Ellipsismost major mmo's*
00:24.13LetheKai|MiningLots more work for them I suppose, but makes sooo many people happy, and lets them get creative.
00:24.20KodyWho cares about other games ;)
00:24.21AmadeoKody: Any experience with War's gameplay?
00:24.25aestilyeah, so says i have 23MB of addon memory, and 34.7 MB of current memoryat log in, after GC
00:24.26Ellipsistrue Kody :P
00:24.50AmadeoI care about other games, after playing WoW since beta, it's getting kind of old :P
00:24.54Ellipsisaestil: where do you get "addon memory" and "current memory"
00:25.00EllipsisPerfFu only shows one number
00:25.05LetheKai|MiningHmm, LotRO didn't have WoW's level of customization, did it?
00:25.07aestilmouse over performance fu
00:25.18Ellipsisoh, people actually use tooltips?
00:25.19EllipsisXD
00:25.20KodyLotRO followed the SoE model of UI customization
00:25.22LetheKai|MiningAmadeo: Think he meant non-MMOs hehe.
00:25.29KarlThePaganKody, bad assumption imo... look what happened after quake3
00:25.29aestiltablets i belive in this case Ellipsis  :)
00:25.40AmadeoLetheKai|Mining: Ahh, well...I have high hopes for TF2 :P
00:25.53AntiarcDahahahah
00:25.54AntiarcGo to Google
00:25.57AntiarcEnter "omen"
00:26.04Ellipsisaestil: Tablet is a tooltip
00:26.05AntiarcObserve that the addon is now more popular than the movie.
00:26.07Antiarc\m/
00:26.10AmadeoAntiarc: haha, nice :)
00:26.12Ellipsisjust not a typical tooltip
00:26.12Antiarc</epeen>
00:26.16Ellipsisrofl Antiarc, nice
00:26.22aestilEllipsis: i kid, i kid
00:26.23NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: lol, awesome.
00:26.32aestilthats something to epeen over :)
00:26.48LetheKai|MiningWow Antiarc.  =D Is that based on hits or something?
00:26.51LetheKai|MiningThe order.
00:26.56KarlThePaganlinks
00:27.06NightHawkTheSanegoogle generally orders by number of pages that link to said page
00:27.10aestili guess i won't worry about the memory thing.
00:27.13KodyKarl: It's only part assumption, part knowledge :P
00:27.15NightHawkTheSane(very dumbed down, but more or less right)
00:27.16AntiarcLetheKai|Mining: It's a number of things, but it basically means that Google thinks that when people search "Omen", they want the addon.
00:27.32LetheKai|Mininglol Well I figured, Antiarc.
00:27.37KodyBut from what I've learned at GDC earlier this month, most companies are adopting LUA and/or Flash for their UI
00:27.45aestilbut its wierd, cause i was at 28MB yesterday. rmember how suprised i was Ellipsis ?
00:27.49KarlThePaganKody, nice :)
00:27.55AmadeoKody: Flash? wth
00:27.58AntiarcI'm so glad that WoW has jacked up Lua's visibility
00:28.01AntiarcIt's such a great language
00:28.11ag`Flash!?
00:28.12Ellipsisaestil, the rest might be Blizz_*
00:28.13ag`no wai
00:28.25NightHawkTheSaneyou can do some pretty impressive stuff with flash.
00:28.30Ellipsisand yeah, I remember :P
00:28.39AmadeoNightHawkTheSane: Yeah, like make banner ads
00:28.44KodyHaha
00:28.53KodyIt'll take guild recruiting to a whole new level
00:28.59Amadeohah
00:29.00KarlThePaganlike turn every PC that reads your ad into a spambot!
00:29.05NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: nah, i've seen some very web based software solutions written entirely in flash
00:29.18NightHawkTheSane(well, at least the UI, that is)
00:29.21AmadeoI want that buzzing fly ad for my guild
00:29.33Ellipsismy total addon memory is under 18 MiB \o/
00:29.44AmadeoEllipsis: Go on a raid and check :P
00:29.56Ziconellipsis: With how many addons?
00:29.58EllipsisI don't raid
00:30.06WobinAntiarc: hehe grats on the google =)
00:30.12Antiarc:D
00:30.13AmadeoI start out pretty low, but once I do anything it starts to grow!
00:30.17AmadeoHmm..
00:30.29EllipsisZicon: ~200folders in my addons dir, with disembedded libs and unpacked packages
00:30.32JCinDEugh...fishing buddy is broken
00:30.38Ziconamadeo: Awesome line for taking out of context. :P
00:30.44Ellipsislol
00:30.44Ziconellipsis: .. I'm impressed.
00:30.46AmadeoYeah, I thought of that afterwards :P
00:31.07LetheKai|MiningI'm sooo lucky, I'm a Tankadin Jewelcrafter and got Aquamarine Signet of the Bear on my first try.  XD
00:31.10NightHawkTheSaneso i've still got an hour and a half..
00:31.13NightHawkTheSaneer, shit, wrong window.
00:31.22AmadeoI put on my robe and wizard hat
00:31.58ag`I cast cock of the infinite
00:32.02AeyanMy loading time isn't really going to get any shorter without my just overhauling everything
00:32.08EllipsisZicon: actual number is 130 addons counted in-game
00:32.11AeyanToo fond of all of the junk I've got running
00:32.21Ziconellipsis: Still impressive.
00:32.32Ellipsisthere are still a lot of improvements to be made
00:32.35AeyanEllipsis, how'd you get that count?
00:32.37EllipsisI have 2 things to rewrite for efficiency
00:32.51EllipsisAeyan: trial and error with PerfFu's number of addons to show in the list x.x
00:32.55AeyanHaha
00:33.02AeyanI hoped it was something better than that
00:33.27AmadeoSince my framerate is dead from the new patch, I wonder if I can just move to Linux for good after all :P
00:33.34Ellipsiscan't hurt
00:33.35Ellipsis:P
00:33.52AmadeoI used to lose about 20 fps in Linux, now I lose 25 fps with the new patch!
00:34.18EllipsisI'm one of those lucky people who had crappy sound hardware to begin with
00:34.27NightHawkTheSaneyeah, the patch slaughtered my already crappy fps. ><
00:34.29Ellipsisso my framerate has stayed about the same, or maybe gone up slightly
00:34.57AmadeoEllipsis: I always wear headphones when I play, but it ran through a headset with a hardware DSP...
00:35.12EllipsisI use a $20 USB headset
00:35.17*** join/#wowace gnor (n=jaydee@cpe-76-170-71-236.socal.res.rr.com)
00:35.17Ellipsisso...yeah
00:35.28AmadeoI can't play without sound, it's like taking away my eyes
00:35.28EllipsisNightHawkTheSane: -nosound? :P
00:35.37charongoodnight
00:35.42AmadeoNigh..hey!
00:35.48NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: well, i'm on a mac, so i'm not sure there's a -nosound cli switch, i just turn it off from the sound menu in game. :p
00:35.52EllipsisI would use that except...well...I like to alt-tab and forget I'm in game until I hear my character get attacked
00:36.03Ellipsiswithout sound I'd die a lot more o.o
00:36.10aestilArk Inventory makes me cry.  its like heroin.
00:36.21NightHawkTheSanei play in windowed mode, with dual screens, so i don't need to alt tab or anything
00:36.22LetheKai|Miningo.o
00:36.26EllipsisNightHawkTheSane: apparently disabling sound in-game doesn't improve performance because the engine is still running
00:36.38NightHawkTheSaneEllipsis: yes. i know. ><
00:36.45Ellipsisthen why do it? x.x
00:36.56NightHawkTheSanebecause if i didn't disable sound, i'd have a hard time hearing my music. ;)
00:37.02AmadeoI'm a Bagnon fan, it's just as fast as the default bags for me now
00:37.03Ellipsisdisable music imo
00:37.13NightHawkTheSanepfft. i prefer my music to the game sound
00:37.15Ellipsis(I mean in-game, not your music)
00:37.17MaytrixVisualthemes still tainting castsequence with latest version
00:37.21LetheKai|MiningI use One Bag.  =D
00:37.32aestilbagnon doesn't have the container filterinig options i don't think, neither does 1 bag.
00:37.35EllipsisI listen to music all the time, disabled music, ambient, and error speech in game
00:37.36NightHawkTheSaneI don't really care about hearing any of the sounds the game makes though.
00:37.39Aeyan142 addons on my warrior
00:37.40AeyanJeebus
00:37.44AmadeoI need audio for PvP stuff
00:37.53*** part/#wowace Grumpey (n=Grumpey@dialup-4.152.213.40.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
00:37.58AmadeoOtherwise I don't care for it
00:38.04NightHawkTheSaneI don't pvp, so
00:38.19EllipsisPvP is for nubs :P
00:38.25Grummeh this is so not elegant, any ideas to improve it? http://ace.pastey.net/74524
00:38.33AmadeoI'm a nub then :)
00:38.46aestili have 287 folders in my addon directory, do i win?
00:39.09Paradoxis it bad to have 50mb memory usage?
00:39.11Grumi got 366+
00:39.15Aeyan271
00:39.17EllipsisGrum: you can optimize the inner if...
00:39.20GrumParadox: using ~100-120
00:39.26Ellipsisand return early for Quests...
00:39.26GrumEllipsis: how?
00:39.37Grumyou can only return from a functio nright
00:39.45Paradoxhow come fubar_durabilityfu says using just 40mb is terrible by making the text red?
00:39.48Grumlua has no 'break/continue' like statements
00:39.49Ellipsiserm, you can return from a file too
00:40.00Grumthis will be a piece of inlined code
00:40.03Grumso i cant return
00:40.08Ellipsisoh
00:40.22Grumand if something other than quests pops up i still have to parse it
00:40.26sbhaha
00:40.27Paradoxerm, I don't know why I said durabilityfu
00:40.30ParadoxI mean performancefu
00:40.40sbtalanted -> template -> from rock -> query function is awesome :o
00:40.48EllipsisGrum: for the inner if/else do:      t[v] = t[v] or 0 + 1
00:41.05aestilantiarc, does omen have a jira?
00:41.11AmadeoWhat combat log options are out there now? All I know if is SCL
00:41.12GrumEllipsis: that code will give a parse error :D
00:41.21Ellipsiserm
00:41.25Ellipsiswha
00:41.28GrumAmadeo: download LoggerHead - it has em all
00:41.29aestil~seen antiarc
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00:41.32Antiarcaestil: No, I need to get one set up
00:41.37aestilah.
00:41.39aestilok.
00:41.40AntiarcI requested one from Kaelten but he didn't get to it, I think
00:41.41Ellipsis~seen aestil's fail
00:41.42purli haven't seen 'aestil's fail', Ellipsis
00:41.42AmadeoGrum: Is that new?
00:41.43AeyanParadox, CK thought that was a lot?
00:41.46Ellipsis=[
00:41.48Ellipsisowned
00:42.04GrumAmadeo: dunno but i got pointed to it recently - it allows auto-combatlogging for certain zones
00:42.05aestili was gonna ticket a feature request.
00:42.08Grumand you can set the ranges from there
00:42.12aestilhey, did you guys kill Vashj this week yet antiarc?
00:42.18AntiarcNo, this week is TKE
00:42.21GrumEllipsis: '0 1' will give an error
00:42.28EllipsisGrum: goddammit there's a plus sign
00:42.30Ellipsisfix your client
00:42.35GrumMEH
00:42.40Grumgeez
00:42.42GrumSTUPID CLIENT
00:42.44Grum~lart
00:42.53AmadeoGrum: Oh, I didn't mean actually logging it, just the fancy output :)
00:43.03EllipsisSCL is pretty much it
00:43.19GrumEllipsis: sorry - try again O.o
00:43.20Ellipsisgood thing it doesn't suck huh :D
00:43.28Grumplox :(
00:43.28AmadeoWasn't 2.2 supposed to include some new combat log stuffs?
00:43.34Amadeoor is that 2.3? or later?
00:43.37EllipsisGrum: you fixed it?
00:43.42Antiarc2.4 is the new combat log stuff
00:43.45syraeAmadeo, I thought that was 2.4
00:43.48AmadeoDamn
00:43.52AmadeoIt should be 2.2!
00:44.00Grumi did fix it!
00:44.04EllipsisGrum: t[v] = t[v] or 0 + 1
00:44.26aestilhttp://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/Ebrius/AngryGod.jpg?t=1191026161
00:44.55aestili'm pretty excited about 2.4
00:45.05aestil2.3 looks like ever class gets buffed but mine
00:45.05GrumEllipsis: that hurts my head - how will that one work? O.o
00:45.29Ellipsisif t[v] wasn't set, it will initialize it to 0 before adding the 1
00:45.38Grumbecause my head turns that into: t[v] = t[v] or 1
00:45.53KarlThePaganwrong order of execution
00:45.54Ellipsisno, it's (t[v] or 0) + 1
00:46.19Grumgood lord, lua is stupid execution order wise
00:46.24Grum~lart Grum
00:46.24purldumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on Grum
00:46.29Gruml2read luadocs
00:46.39KarlThePaganactually lua's and/or is extremely elegant... I like it
00:47.02KarlThePaganit lets you do && and || type short-circuits and preserve the results
00:47.31KarlThePaganinstead of value==null?:default:value just do value or default
00:47.40KarlThePaganerr value==null?default:value
00:48.00aestilif i remember correctly, no way to eePanel to EBB, irght?
00:48.08Grumbut binding tighter than + is silly imho
00:48.16EllipsisKarlThePagan: =, not == :P
00:48.29Ellipsisoops, read that wrong
00:48.30KarlThePaganEllipsis, that's java not lua
00:48.30Ellipsisnvm
00:48.36KarlThePagan;)
00:48.39Grumbut you are completely right Ellipsis .. thanks :D
00:48.40Ellipsislol, stfu
00:48.41Grum<3
00:48.48KarlThePagankek, no u
00:49.05KarlThePaganEllipsis, java is my dayjob <3 ByteBuffer
00:49.08Grumyet it doesnt work :D
00:49.15EllipsisGrum: your mom doesn't work
00:49.22Grumright, shes deaD :D
00:49.34Ellipsisoops, I dyed my minimap green
00:49.41Ellipsishow did I manage that
00:49.44AeyanThumbs up
00:49.49GrumLOL
00:49.57Grum<PROTECTED>
00:49.59aestili'm pretty turned on by my UI
00:50.02Grumbut without ()s it doesnt O.o
00:50.13sedai|my UI is the sexiest EVER
00:50.16Ellipsisaestil: that makes two of us
00:50.51AeyanMy UI is bareable
00:51.00Amadeosedai|: So let's see it
00:51.12sedai|elli can vouch
00:51.15Grumanyhow - afk - bed! 03:00 :\
00:51.15AmadeoI'll compare it to a picture of myself
00:51.22aestilso, someone on my server was cruising my guilds UI forum, and saw mine, and asked for my UI
00:51.27aestili asked him what resolution he ran.
00:51.32aestilhe said 10x7
00:51.38aestili said 'fail' it won't work
00:51.44aestilhe said ok, just give me all your mods.
00:51.46aestilso i did.
00:51.53sedai|mine is 1980x1200
00:51.55Ellipsisinc pebkac
00:51.58aestilits fun watching him drown.
00:52.09aestilsedai|: liez.  its 1920x1200
00:52.14AeyanI wish I had a widescreen monitor
00:52.16sedai|80 i tell you
00:52.17sedai|lol
00:52.37sedai|yeah its 1920
00:52.44Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_092307_182233.jpg
00:52.48sedai|but 1980 was the year i was born
00:52.48Ellipsis1440x900 and WTB moar pixelz
00:52.57sedai|so its all that much better
00:53.41sedai|id belost without my monitor
00:53.54sedai|it would be like swimming in the ocean at night
00:54.06EllipsisI like swimming in the ocean at night
00:54.07Ellipsis>_>
00:54.13sedai|wish sharks!
00:54.17sedai|with*
00:54.22Ellipsissharks are cute
00:54.25sedai|:x
00:54.34sedai|until they decide you are food
00:54.34AntiarcMy UI is awesome. :[
00:54.51AmadeoAntiarc: I'm trying to load it up but it's like 2K/sec :P
00:54.56Ellipsissedai|, back home where I used to swim there wasn't anything larger than a dogfish :P
00:54.56AntiarcHeh
00:54.58AntiarcI will cut it down
00:55.00AntiarcIt's a 2mb file
00:55.03Amadeohaha
00:55.09sedai|yeah thats not so bad
00:55.21MentalPowerAnyonw here know the link to the article about supporting the placement of minimap icons on non-circular minimaps?
00:55.30EllipsisAntiarc: what's the [Restokitty] from? o.O
00:55.31sedai|Ellipsis: I can handle dogfish
00:55.37AntiarcEllipsis: Guild note
00:55.42Ellipsisah
00:55.54EllipsisI was gonna say, never seen a DogTag for specs like that before XD
00:55.58Mudkipzocean? no thanks
00:56.06Mudkipzat night? NO NO thanks
00:56.14AmadeoAntiarc: Tell Wraithedge I like the way she dances
00:56.22Ellipsisthe only thing to watch out for was jellyfish
00:56.33Ellipsisthey can freaking hurt
00:56.40Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_092307_182233.jpg and http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_091907_224541.jpg <-- improved, smaller versions!
00:56.42AntiarcOnly 800k now
00:56.53AmadeoYour UI is pretty sexy
00:57.05MudkipzAntiarc is a clicker
00:57.10AntiarcTotally am not.
00:57.12Ellipsisthe only thing that really bothers me is the 3859763976527346 icons on the FuBar
00:57.17AntiarcI have everything bound with SpellBinder
00:57.19AmadeoYou have a touch screen or something? That Stealth button is big! ;)
00:57.21Mudkipzwhy need the huge buttons?
00:57.23AntiarcSo the bindings don't show on the action bar
00:57.28AntiarcAmadeo: It's more of a cue
00:57.39MudkipzAntiarc, bartender3 hides bindings
00:57.39AntiarcNice for telling my in/out of combat status
00:57.40Ellipsis"note to self: remember to stealth"
00:57.53Ellipsissomehow I don't see that working as a rogue :P
00:58.06aestilAntiarc: nice, but i don't like gloss addon buttons, don't like the use of alot of colors, and don't like multiple textures used thorughout.
00:58.13aestilbut, nice :)
00:58.17AmadeoAntiarc: You could try my abandoned addon Hitman :P
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00:58.22AntiarcHeheh, yeah, I need to standardize my textures
00:58.24Ellipsisaestil: if you don't have anything nice to say... ;P
00:58.31aestilliez!
00:58.39aestilhe's got 3 or 4 textures going.
00:58.44JCinDEIs there any way to suppress tooltips completely in combat?
00:58.45aestilit burns my eyes.
00:58.46Ellipsisyeah, I know
00:58.53Ellipsisfix icons, then fix textures
00:58.54EllipsisIMO
00:59.05AmadeoI like the colors because it has a theme
00:59.10aestilpeople complain about my block of text in my fubar Ellipsis .  i just let that go.
00:59.21AntiarcI tend to prever info overload to minimalism
00:59.25Ellipsisaestil: I hate your block of text :P
00:59.27AntiarcI'm an info junkie
00:59.34EllipsisI strike a balance between the two
00:59.40AntiarcAnd hell, I have an assload of screen real estate for it
00:59.42AntiarcSo why not.
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00:59.43EllipsisI love to have every bit of information I can possibly find useful
00:59.46JCinDElately I'm striving to have NOTHING overlapping my World Frame in combat.
00:59.54Ellipsisbut I am still a minimalist in that I hide anything that doesn't provide said info
01:00.11AmadeoAntiarc: You're owning DPS
01:00.14aestilyeah, i know.  alot of people hate my block of text
01:00.19AntiarcAmadeo: I often do. <_<
01:00.20Ellipsishe's freaking Antiarc, of course he's owning :P
01:00.26JCinDESo far I have it reduced to Target Frame, Focus Frame and tooltips that just won't go away
01:00.35KarlThePaganhe's got a secret omen flag that says...
01:00.50AmadeoWraithedge should take up dancing instead of DPSing
01:00.50KarlThePaganif antiarc is in the raid... multiply every non-tank's threat by 1.1
01:00.52AntiarcI have a secret backdoor in Omen that lets me send threat warnings to other DPSers
01:00.54KarlThePaganexcept him
01:00.58aestilalso, why is your font [Outline] on the right, but not on the left?
01:00.58KarlThePaganhaha yea
01:00.59AntiarcSo I can make them stop DPSing so I can own them.
01:01.00AntiarcMuahahah.
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01:01.08AntiarcWraith is good damage :)
01:01.12Ellipsislol Antiarc, that's mean
01:01.21AntiarcI'm also joking :P
01:01.21Ellipsisalso: why do you have a healery Grid? o.O
01:01.35AntiarcThat's just the default Grid. I use it to tell who is up and down at a glance.
01:01.47KarlThePaganXRS
01:01.50Ellipsis^
01:01.54KarlThePaganwell but grid is good too ;)
01:01.59AntiarcXRS only tells me how many are down
01:02.01Ellipsis(although I will admit to using raid frames instead of XRS)
01:02.13KarlThePagancan't you filter deaths by class/role?
01:02.15AntiarcYeah, I don't need raid frames with Grid
01:02.17AntiarcWhich is nice.
01:02.23KarlThePaganthat's what i do for mine
01:02.25AntiarcI tend to like to know who specifically is dead
01:02.29KarlThePagantrue
01:02.32EllipsisI used to use XRS only, because I wanted death counts and a healer mana bar
01:02.43Ellipsisbut I found that to not be enough because I needed to know *which* healers had mana
01:02.50Ellipsissince not everyone likes healing locks
01:02.56KarlThePaganyea i have total health, tank health, dps & healer mana, deaths
01:03.09AmadeoI still need a Tauren Druid name
01:03.19Ellipsisorganic beef
01:03.19EllipsisXD
01:03.22KarlThePagani should take off total health...
01:03.24Amadeolol
01:03.27AmadeoFreerange
01:03.29KarlThePaganucornbeef
01:03.30JCinDEMine's name is Bull =)
01:03.40KarlThePaganucorn is a famous KJ tauren ;)
01:03.42KarlThePaganshaman tho
01:03.44aestilEllipsisshudders, agreed
01:03.58Ellipsiswho?
01:03.59Amadeoor just Kobe
01:03.59Ellipsis:P
01:04.20JCinDEAmadeo: name him Zhevotnik
01:04.42AmadeoWas he in Sonic the Hedgehog or something?
01:05.00EllipsisLOL
01:05.42AmadeoI almost said Megaman, but I think it was Sonic that had a guy like that
01:05.56JCinDEzhivotnih is the western spelling of the russian word for animal. Zhevotnik is the phonetic version of it.
01:06.18AmadeoI see!
01:06.59JCinDEall the good native american names are taken, so go russian imo. heh
01:07.01Wobin!p Design: Potent Noble Topaz; Alliance; Argent Dawn
01:07.04AmadeoI have Russian in me, but I don't speak any of it!
01:07.16Wobinack
01:07.16EllipsisI don't have any Russian in me
01:07.19WobinThraebot wru?
01:07.23Ellipsis...anyone care to help with that?
01:07.24AmadeoEllipsis: I'm not saying it!
01:07.24EllipsisXD
01:07.27Amadeohaha
01:07.31EllipsisWobin: l2read
01:07.34JCinDElol
01:07.51WobinMy timing sucks
01:07.56Ellipsisindeed
01:07.58Wobinor rather.. Thrae's timing sucks
01:08.03Ellipsishave a pity cookie (::)
01:08.13AmadeoLooks like a button
01:08.17Ellipsisno u
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01:08.22JCinDEgah I was just gonna say that!
01:08.24Amadeohaha
01:08.30AmadeoPut your pants back on (::)!
01:08.39Ellipsispants? what pants?
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01:08.51AmadeoWobin: I brought him back for you
01:08.57Ellipsishax
01:09.01Wobin!p Design: Potent Noble Topaz; Alliance; Argent Dawn
01:09.02ThraeBotWobin: Name: Design: Potent Noble Topaz; Vendor: 3g; Deposit (24h): 1g 80s; Auction (All): 300g [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]]
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01:09.37AmadeoI should change my nickname, I don't even have an Amadeo character anymore
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01:10.00sedai|mmm cookies
01:10.43AmadeoAnyone play on Auchindoun?
01:12.06AmadeoWas it something I said?
01:13.00Ellipsis*crickets*
01:13.05xyuhmm i'm lost, does anyone know where the enable party in raid is  in rock config?
01:13.20Amadeo:(
01:13.42Ellipsisxyu, I *think* it's under raid
01:13.47aestil<PROTECTED>
01:14.04EllipsisI get the feeling the Aura module isn't getting much love lately
01:14.06aestilxyu, that option is in Grid for me.
01:14.12xyuGrid? lol
01:14.18xyui dont have it :(
01:14.31aestilckknight said alt auras was probably gonna just be aura.
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01:15.32Ellipsisyeah, I figured
01:15.46EllipsisAura is a bit out of date, and AltAuras supposedly works much better
01:15.51Ellipsisthough I haven't tried it >_>
01:16.16AmadeoSage works for me :P
01:16.27EllipsisSage works except that it doesn't
01:16.29Ellipsis>_>
01:16.39EllipsisPitBull is the only UF with pet target
01:16.56AmadeoDoes X-Perl have it?
01:16.56Antiarcckknight: Is there a reason that SharedMedia textures aren't available to FuBar?
01:17.46aestilX-Perl probalby does, but its ugly as hell.
01:18.18AmadeoI'd use PitBull, but I don't want to have to set it up
01:18.47EllipsisI used to use X-Perl
01:18.52Ellipsisthen I started caring about performance
01:18.54Ellipsis>_>
01:19.10AmadeoWhen I go to configure PitBull, it reminds me of web browsing before popup blockers
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01:20.09EllipsisI don't understand how people apparently set up things like PitBull from scratch with Dewdrop
01:20.12Ellipsisit makes my head hurt
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01:21.13sedai|um if you dont understand, there isnt a chance in the world of me understanding
01:21.47aestilpitbull is so much easier to configure with rock, than it ever used to be with dewdrop
01:21.52ViresDewdrop? Bah! I manually edit the SavedVariables file! (jk)
01:22.08aestiland people who think otherwise are missing how to use rockconfig i think.
01:22.37EllipsisI used to use Niagara
01:22.46Ellipsisso the Rock thing is no big deal to me >_>
01:23.28AntiarcSame as Ellipsis
01:23.48xyuHey guys how do you get those bugged group screens in the middle of the screen
01:23.49sedai|i dont even know what you are tlaking about :(
01:23.53xyui know there's a way to get them off.
01:24.04xyuthere was a sticky somewhere about it ><
01:24.18sedai|oh rock is lieka  ui instead of dropdown menus for each addon?
01:24.52sedai|for accessing mod options
01:25.13EllipsisRock is an addon framework
01:25.25Ellipsisits addons use RockConfig for configuration right now, which is a GUI rather than dropdowns
01:25.37Ellipsiswhich many people are having trouble getting used to
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01:26.41aestilxyu, delete your blizard raid ui lua
01:27.07MaytrixWhen can I get one of you elite coders to address the issue of not being able to bind mousewheel in mybindings2?
01:27.23Maytrixperrty please??
01:27.26Maytrix;-)
01:27.41Paradoxaestil: I wanna be able to move buffs/debuffs around pixel-by-pixel too
01:28.07ParadoxI also hope someday there's an option to display timers below them instead of that 'clock' way of showing time remaining
01:28.54Ellipsisyou can use something like Buffalo2 to do that now
01:29.26sztanpetsatrina buff frames is nice too
01:29.30Paradoxbut its supported by the default UI? :(
01:29.45sztanpetwhat?
01:29.56ParadoxI don't want to have to install addons on top of addons just to get default UI functionality
01:30.05Ellipsiseerm
01:30.12Ellipsisyou don't use a buff addon at all?
01:30.31MentalPowerckknight: ping!
01:30.50Paradoxno Ellipsis
01:30.57ParadoxI don't need one
01:31.25Paradoxwell.. looks like I do now using pitbull
01:32.16EllipsisI'm still struggling to make my buff display match what I want
01:32.33EllipsisBuffalo2 could do it if it didn't get confused over which buffs are which
01:32.34Ellipsis=[
01:33.58sztanpethttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6884
01:34.00sztanpetits ace2 too
01:34.41aestilebb Ellipsis ?
01:35.11EllipsisI can get EBB close, but I want horizontal rows of buffs with timers on the bottom
01:35.28Ellipsisand with EBB I end up with vertical buff lists with timers on the side...not bad, but not ideal for my layout
01:35.57sztanpetand long bars taking up too much space
01:36.06EllipsisI don't like the bars
01:36.15Ellipsisthey're pointless and waste space
01:36.20sztanpetexactly
01:36.23Ellipsisalthough I do prefer them for short buffs/debuffs
01:36.36Ellipsisso I used to split based on duration
01:36.51AmadeoI use NECB's bars for duration stuffs
01:37.21Ellipsisdoes anyone use Satrina Buff Frames here?
01:37.26sztanpetaye
01:37.31AmadeoNo!
01:37.33Ellipsispreferably on a pet class?
01:37.53sztanpetnot really
01:38.02JCinDEso looking at CowTip...it seems calling GameTooltip:Hide() in the hooked OnShow function doesn't work anymore...
01:38.05Ellipsisif it doesn't do pet buffs, it's no better than Buffalo for me =[
01:38.08aestilthey sorta waste space, but i have lots of space, and they are functionally useful.
01:38.18aestilEBB does pet buffs.
01:38.32EllipsisI know, that's why I can't decide between it and Buffalo
01:38.45Ellipsisit has all the features I need except being able to do the layout I want
01:38.55Ellipsisalso: I disagree @ usefulness of buff bars
01:38.55aestilthat event just isn't firing.
01:39.01aestilfor resizing grid.
01:39.04sztanpetdont know if satrina can, but take a look at it
01:39.05Ellipsisowned
01:39.08aestilwhat am i missing.
01:39.13Ellipsissemicolons
01:39.14EllipsisXD
01:40.06aestilhuh?
01:40.16Ellipsisdon't worry, it's a coder thing :P
01:40.40AmadeoOr you're a gastroenterologist
01:40.58sztanpetrofl
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01:43.08aestilso, the script works when i open the script and close it again.
01:43.12AmadeoI'm going to win a Logitech headset from Blizzard
01:43.33Nick2o.O
01:43.52aestilit fires when i leave the group good, but when I joined a group, it did not fire.
01:44.19aestilall you need to do is register the even in that script and it should run the script when the event fires?  should i Register the even at the beggining of teh script?
01:46.43aestilWTF why doesn't that event fire when I join a group?
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01:47.25aestilis there an event seperate from PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED that fires when you join a group?
01:47.35aestilnot neccesarily when someone else joins, or leaves?
01:47.44xyuhmm is pally power broken? :(
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01:48.30buuaestil: Can't you just use that event?
01:48.38aestilsomethings wrong.
01:49.03aestilthe script doesn't run when I join a group, I wonder if its a bug with GridLayoutFrame
01:49.12Mudkipzprobably
01:49.33Mudkipzmy 2nd panel loses it's height/width
01:50.37aestilhow do I use RAID_TARGET_UPDATE?
01:50.40Mudkipzbut now I set it up that only the 2ndpanel show up when in a raid
01:50.42aestilcan't I just register that even?
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01:51.38CIA-2203aliset * r50199 10StatFrameLib/StatFrameLib-1.0/StatFrameLib-1.0.lua:
01:51.39CIA-22StatFrameLib:
01:51.39CIA-22- Had to switch things over to forward local declarations. Grr.
01:53.31Ellipsisaestil: that's for raid target icons, won't do you much good o.O
01:53.41aestilit says it fires when people leave/join
01:53.44Ellipsisand I think the parenting may be preventing your event from firing
01:53.51Ellipsisnot a bug in the script
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01:54.36Ellipsiswhat may happen is that the event fires while your panel isn't really there, so the script doesn't get called
01:54.53Ellipsisbut that was what the initial call at the end was for =[
01:55.02aestilshould i put it in the 1st panel instead of the third?
01:56.07aestilok, what do i have to do to make PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD register with that script as well.  i Register it the same way the other one is registerd, but the game says the even doesn't exisit
01:56.31aestilall 3 panels are parented to GridLayoutFrame btw.
01:59.15Ellipsisaestil: there are two ways to do it
01:59.44Ellipsisone, you could create another function with the :PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD() name and have it call PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED
01:59.58Ellipsiswhich would be good if you plan to add other scripts to do other stuff in the future
02:00.06Ellipsisthat might need to use that event
02:00.23kadrahilshould pallies level ret until you can spec prot and get reckoning?
02:00.25Ellipsisthe other (lazy) way is just to register the PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD event to call your existing function
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02:01.27aestilSo the function you wrote that is called PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED() is more than just a name?  its calling that event?
02:01.42aestili thought it was just a name.
02:02.30Poul|RaiderDoes the blizzard /combatlog /chatlog always write the date as month/date hour:min:sec:msec  no matter what client people run with, us/eu or eng, frence, etc?
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02:05.02aestili got as far as function eePanels2:PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD() and i'm not sure
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02:06.20kebinusanbleh I dont like this change: Detect Magic removed. All players may now see their target's beneficial effects at all times... means everyone can tell at a glance which locks are soul link and which arent
02:08.46dreamsswellll'
02:08.54dreamssif u have a felguard out
02:08.56dreamss:P
02:09.35Ellipsiskebinusan - ?!
02:09.50kebinusanlisted as a 2.3 change
02:09.58Ellipsis~stab Blizz
02:09.59purlACTION runs at Blizz with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
02:10.17kebinusanyeah, and drain life is affected by MS/wound poison
02:10.21kebinusan<PROTECTED>
02:10.37Ellipsisbleh
02:10.45Ellipsiseven in PvE that sucks
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02:14.49Primerhttp://sh.nu/p/23235 <-- thoughts?
02:15.15ViresInstall Ace-Console2
02:15.25Primerseems it's not listed in WAU
02:15.30ViresI.E. if you updated with WAU set get dependencies too
02:15.36Primerok
02:16.00Primerheh, you'd think that'd be enabled by defualt
02:16.03Primerdefault, even
02:16.10Ellipsisit's not required with default settings
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02:16.29Primeris there a way to force the install so it picks up the deps?
02:16.32Ellipsisand I think that error may actually be due to a bug/outdated Noteshare
02:16.38ViresIn the options, yes
02:16.49PrimerLast Change: 1 day
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02:17.39Primerseems all it did was update noteshare
02:17.47Primerit didn't report installing any deps
02:17.54PrimerI guess I'll play with it
02:17.55Primerthanks
02:17.56EllipsisNoteshare has not been updated since september 18th
02:18.09Ellipsiser, 21st
02:18.11Ellipsisbleh I can read
02:18.30ViresLies.
02:18.55ViresJust cause it hasn't been updated doesn't mean it doesn't work.
02:19.35EllipsisVires: it does if the addon it's supposed to work with has just changed frameworks
02:19.38ViresTriple negative!? "Just cause it has been updated doesn't mean it works" ... statement still applies, lol
02:19.41Ellipsisand the error involves a lib from the old framework
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02:25.16RogueShadow*times you wish you were near a 24hr supercenter*  When your trying to clean excessive dust from your heat sink with a straw...
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02:26.06sedai|heat sink?
02:26.18AntiarcAugh
02:26.22AntiarcPrat's targettell is broken
02:26.36RogueShadowsedai|, is it odd, or do you just not understand?
02:26.54sedai|what is a "heat sink"?
02:27.02sedai|ooh
02:27.05sedai|like cpu
02:27.09RogueShadowyeah...
02:27.14RogueShadowI think that's the problem i've been having lately
02:27.19RogueShadowoverheating..
02:27.30RogueShadowif I suddenly go offline
02:27.31sedai|hahahahaha and here i was imagining a hot sink, like one you wash your hands at
02:27.33RogueShadowit did it again
02:27.51sedai|need better cooling
02:27.54sedai|more fans
02:27.58sedai|that was my answer
02:27.59RogueShadowneed better pc in general.
02:28.04RogueShadowBut more fans isn't always it either.
02:28.10RogueShadowThere was a lot of dust in there...
02:28.10sedai|i have a fun blowing hot air out the top of my box
02:28.16RogueShadowneed to clean it more also
02:28.25sedai|i but a filter on the intake fan
02:28.32Industrialclean every 2 months, laptops too
02:28.38sedai|which i clean often
02:29.03sedai|yeah mini vaccumis nice
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02:39.26Ellipsiswow
02:39.31Ellipsishttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/FUB-44
02:39.36Ellipsislook how cool that guy is
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02:42.22hyperChipmunkaw rats, someone beat me to it
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02:42.37Adam__beat, you? not possible
02:43.50Adam__I wonder how long before RogueShadow will vanish, because his computer locked up again.
02:43.58Adam__like a while ago
02:44.43Adam__I know. I was there.
02:47.19RogueShadowok truth is, I just didn't know how to recovery my own nick. after switching computers because it did in fact lock up again
02:47.28RogueShadow:(
02:47.30EllipsishyperChipmunk, if you want a few more spam tickets, I made a list
02:48.07Ellipsis>_>
02:48.25Ellipsis~seen Kaelten
02:48.32purlkaelten <n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 4h 14m 40s ago, saying: 'cg_gatherer?'.
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02:48.51AmadeoBleh, I should stop playing melee classes
02:48.55Ellipsisagreed.
02:49.21AmadeoFeral Druids are way too overpowered against them
02:49.31AmadeoBear form -> AFK
02:54.09AmadeoOr maybe I should just be a Druid and not have to worry about taking damage :D
02:55.00aestilWHISKEY AND ORANGE JUICE  WHO IS WITH ME!!?!
02:55.13Ellipsis...not me
02:55.37sedai|jamba juice :D
02:55.39Ellipsishttp://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/pix_plz.png
02:57.15sedai|lol
02:57.41sedai|ftw.png
02:57.45AmadeoThat's not really how it is though
02:57.58AmadeoOn the guy part, sure
02:57.59aestilELLIPSIS YOU WILLD RINK WITH M@!
02:58.04aestilALCHONLO! IS GOOD
02:58.19Amadeobut many of the girls are desperate enough for the attention :P
02:58.43Ellipsisaestil, I don't drink :P
02:58.52Ellipsisand Amadeo: it really is like that
02:59.07Ellipsismost girls are not attention whores, but are seen as such because they try to, y'know, chat
02:59.32AmadeoI'm obviously not saying all are, but at least in WoW, there's a ton of em
02:59.44Funkeh`Ellipsis: attention whore!
02:59.49aestilwtf, why dont' you have any alcholo?  its deliceious.
02:59.58EllipsisFunkeh`: no u!
03:00.02Funkeh`Its 'alcohol'
03:00.09Ellipsisnot when you're aestil
03:00.12Ellipsishe can hardly type sober
03:00.15Ellipsis:P
03:00.19aestili can't type anyways.
03:00.26aestili'm not trying.  heoric MT atm
03:00.28AmadeoYou can tell if a girl is an attention whore right off the bat when they announce their gender in general chat to everyone :P
03:01.02Funkeh`Ellipsis: Yeah, I'm an attention whore. :(
03:01.16aestilEllipsis:
03:01.27IndustrialI'm a girl!
03:01.32Funkeh`You forgot your sentance.
03:01.32Ellipsis...
03:01.36aestilyes.
03:01.40aestilwe wiped.
03:01.42aestilso.
03:01.45EllipsisI'm on the edge of my seat
03:01.48AmadeoIndustrial: <3
03:01.49Funkeh`Industrial: Whore with me?
03:01.51Ellipsisplease, fill me in on the rest of that message
03:01.51aestilwe just gkciked an inention whore girl!
03:01.54aestilshe was horrible.
03:02.01aestilbut then we have like 3 other girls, who are great, and fun.
03:02.01Ellipsisno wai Funkeh`, Industrial and I are gonna have hawt lesbian cybors in here
03:02.06Ellipsisright Industrial?
03:02.06Amadeoaestil: Good job!
03:02.07aestilgrils are great to have in guild.
03:02.12aestillets tessteroner
03:02.16Industrialdepends... hihihihihi
03:02.17Funkeh`Ellipsis: /shoo
03:02.18AmadeoYour mom wears grills
03:02.22EllipsisI'm not saying attention whores don't exist
03:02.24IndustrialEllipsis: asl?
03:02.32IndustrialAmadeo: your mom wears nothing.
03:02.33IndustrialZING
03:02.34EllipsisIndustrial: 18/f/CA and no that is not fake
03:02.38Amadeolol
03:02.59Ellipsissigh, I only just realized that it looks fake because I tried to come up with a fake one
03:03.01Ellipsisand then realized I fit it
03:03.04aestilbtw, i will have to drink this coffee soon Ellipsis
03:03.26AmadeoYou can tell the comic you posted holds truth, because everyone is talking to you
03:03.27Funkeh`aestil: Is that a bad thing?
03:03.27Ellipsisaestil: plz send
03:03.35EllipsisAmadeo: you have a point
03:03.42Ellipsisas if my years of experience hadn't told me it was true already
03:03.57Industrialso um
03:04.03Industrialanyone have Forress Forever?
03:04.07AmadeoIndustrial: What are you wearing?
03:04.09Industrialill kick your ass. :D
03:04.30Funkeh`Industrial: Are you ok?
03:04.35IndustrialAmadeo: I forgot, I can't see :(
03:04.42IndustrialFunkeh`: sure why :D?
03:04.42EllipsisI'll check!
03:04.44AmadeoThat's ok, want to share this burnt popcorn with me?
03:04.57Funkeh`Industrial: I think I just raped you.
03:05.08sedai|o_o
03:05.15Industrialum yeah
03:05.26Ellipsisyeah you did Funkeh`
03:05.29Industrialhow to respond...
03:05.41Funkeh`Ellipsis: Thank for the confirmation!
03:05.42Industrial*scratch beardy*
03:05.46sedai|knee to face usually is a solid bet
03:05.49Ellipsisjust glad I was there in time to watch
03:05.49Ellipsis:D
03:05.52AmadeoTell him rhinoceruses don't wear shirts
03:06.00aestilyou live close, you come get.
03:06.05Funkeh`Ellipsis: Next time I'll record it for you.
03:06.12aestili'll even leave it at my store, you don't even ave to go on a day i'm there if you're afraid of me.
03:06.45Ellipsisaestil: I have no means of transportation
03:06.45Industrialim out of weed
03:06.55AmadeoOh so I can't come, only Ellipsis?
03:07.02aestilEllipsis: you live in a state / area which rquires you have means of transportaion.
03:07.18Industrialfeet?
03:07.20Funkeh`The fuck?
03:07.28Ellipsisaestil: I'm sorry I fail at life
03:07.30AmadeoIndustrial: Yabba-dabba doooooo
03:07.38aestilno, just at getting around.
03:07.40EllipsisI never learned to drive
03:07.46aestilthis would be a good time
03:07.49Ellipsisnot really
03:07.58Industrialif I was required to have a car I'd demand a 100% clean car :o
03:08.05Ellipsiswe only have one car that's in bad shape and my bf needs it to get to work
03:08.07Funkeh`I learnt at 17 :x
03:08.09Industrial(from the state)
03:08.23AmadeoWell I know one thing
03:08.26AmadeoHe's not Russian
03:08.33aestilyou plan on never having to drive your whole life?
03:08.37IndustrialI do
03:08.41EllipsisI'm just not in any hurry to learn
03:08.50Ellipsisif/when I need to, I probably will (or at least try)
03:08.55Ellipsishow's the public transportation here?
03:08.58IndustrialI live in a city - I have no use for a car.
03:08.59Funkeh`Driving is teh shizzle
03:09.03Funkeh`So relaxing.
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03:09.17AmadeoIt's more relaxing to sit in the back and sleep
03:09.40Ellipsis^
03:09.47Funkeh`I drive to college every day and sit in a 25 minute queue, thats how relaxing that is.
03:09.51aestili think this is like the spellstrike 2 piece bonus where you will apprecaite it once you look into it.
03:09.55Ellipsisheh
03:10.01Industrialso anyone wanna play fortress forever? Ill play me vs the rest if you want to
03:10.07Industrial>:)
03:10.09Funkeh`Industrial: Show me how
03:10.11AmadeoWhat is it?
03:10.13Funkeh`and where
03:10.18Ellipsisseriously though aestil, are there no buses? :P
03:10.22Industrialyou need a steam account and half life 2
03:10.23aestilthere are.
03:10.25aestilbut its aLA
03:10.28Funkeh`got and got
03:10.30Industrialits a Half Life:Source mod
03:10.32Funkeh`next step
03:10.36Industrialwell then, fortress-forever.com
03:10.36Funkeh`okay link
03:10.40AmadeoOh, I would have to download it all :(
03:10.58Industrialand pay for half life 2 if you havent
03:10.59Industrial:P
03:11.02AmadeoI already own it
03:11.05Ellipsisaestil: if you were stranded here with no car and nobody who could pick you up, etc... how would you get home? :P
03:11.06AmadeoJust on Steam
03:11.24Industrial.. but the mod is free (opposed to TF2 made by valve wich is imho total crap :P)
03:11.29AmadeoNooo, don't say that
03:11.32AmadeoTF2 has to be good
03:11.37AmadeoI <3 TF :(
03:11.48Ellipsisbooo
03:11.53Ellipsispr0ns > gaming
03:11.59Funkeh`liar
03:12.02Funkeh`sex > gaming
03:12.05IndustrialTF2 was made for random public server ZOMGIMAKILL EVERYTHING THATMOVES!!
03:12.07Funkeh`gaming > pr0n
03:12.07Amadeomakes me think of prawns, lol
03:12.08aestilfind a motel?
03:12.23Ellipsisaestil: you are so helpful
03:12.24Ellipsis<3
03:12.39AmadeoEllipsis: Maybe he means to make some money
03:12.42Ellipsisand here I am trying to come visit you
03:12.44Ellipsislol
03:12.59Funkeh`Its 500 fucking MB
03:13.04Industrialits a game
03:13.20EllipsisFunkeh`: pr0n > sex
03:13.21Ellipsisooh what now
03:13.22Industrialso um, that should take like 10-15 mins?
03:13.39Funkeh`Industrial: If it wasn't downlaoding from filefront
03:13.40AmadeoIndustrial: Did you try TF2 yet, or just not interested?
03:13.44Industrialnoooo
03:13.47aestilwhy, are you stranded?
03:13.47Industrialtheres a torrent
03:13.51Funkeh`oh?
03:13.52aestilwait, was that a serious question?
03:13.56Ellipsisaestil: effectively, yes
03:14.03IndustrialAmadeo: not interested - I'm not going to pay for it :<
03:14.07Amadeo:(
03:14.13Funkeh`got it
03:14.16EllipsisI'm just trying to figure out if/how I could get into LA if I wanted to (assuming my bf can't drive me)
03:14.25IndustrialI've played TFC and QWTF in clans for well over 10 years so :X
03:14.34IndustrialI stopped for 2 years now though
03:14.34AmadeoI played QWTF in a clan
03:14.36KemayoEllipsis: Depending on where you're coming from, the trains are often your best bet.
03:14.38aestilyou can take a train/bus to me.  but damn, thats a long ways.
03:14.38Industrialbut, FF!
03:14.47AmadeoI didn't like TFC at all, the change was too much for me
03:14.48EllipsisKemayo: OC :/
03:15.09Amadeoaestil: What are you giving away? I want some...I think
03:15.10Industrialtheres more control in tfc
03:15.12Industrialair control, etc
03:15.19Ellipsislol Amadeo, coffee
03:15.27AmadeoThat's it?
03:15.30Ellipsisyes
03:15.33EllipsisI am a coffee addict
03:15.36AmadeoI don't even like coffee
03:15.37Ellipsisand my bf doesn't drink it so he fails at buying it
03:15.41Industrialbut in ff its a bit less, they capped bhop to 110% or so for one
03:15.42AmadeoYour boyfriend is cool
03:15.54Ellipsisif you say so :P
03:16.05AmadeoIndustrial: The only thing I don't like about TF2 is lack of grenades, I think that was a poor decision
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03:16.15IndustrialAmadeo: they took out grenades :D?
03:16.18AmadeoYep
03:16.20Industrialha.
03:16.27AmadeoI think a few classes might have normal ones, I dunno
03:16.30Amadeobut not like it used to be
03:16.31Funkeh`I hardly ever drink coffee, unless I had 4 hours sleep and need to get up for college
03:16.31Funkeh`Tea is for when I'm sick
03:16.35Industrialwell, that certainly solves some of the nubspam
03:16.39AmadeoYeah
03:16.50AmadeoI guess it's nice to slow down the pace of it too
03:16.53Funkeh`My college has a vending machine with coffee right outside the classroom so its awesome for staying awake
03:16.53Ellipsiscoffee is for whenever I'm awake
03:16.57AmadeoSince most of the time in QWTF you could just conc jump the whole map
03:17.02Ellipsistea is for whenever I'm awake and there's no coffee/coke available
03:17.07IndustrialI dont drink coffee
03:17.13IndustrialI drink red bull tho
03:17.14AmadeoTea works
03:17.22Ellipsisick
03:17.22Industrialwell, cheap red bull. Bullit.
03:17.23Industrial:P
03:17.25Ellipsisred bull makes me cry
03:17.28Funkeh`I drink red bull with alcohol
03:17.33Industrialthat too
03:17.34AmadeoI hate the way Red Bull tastes
03:17.35Industrialwodka \o/
03:17.45Funkeh`Was at a lan party once and had to stay awake 4 days straight
03:17.45Ellipsispfft
03:17.45Amadeoit's like medicine :(
03:17.52Ellipsisyou guys all drink alcohol?
03:17.55Funkeh`LOTS and LOTS of red bull + alcohol
03:18.02EllipsisFunkeh`: that's when I bring out the fun stuff
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03:18.10hyperChipmunkno; never have, don't guess i ever will
03:18.10Funkeh`;)
03:18.18AmadeoI drink occassionally, not much though
03:18.20EllipsisLAN parties get meds instead of caffeine
03:18.24Amadeoglass of wine here or there, that's about it
03:18.26KemayoEllipsis: It only takes about an hour to take amtrak from Santa Ana to LA, I know, for somewhere in the $10-15 range.
03:18.36Ellipsisalthough it does kinda suck trying to find anything non-caffeinated at a LAN
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03:18.41AmadeohyperChipmunk: Not really missing anything
03:18.43EllipsisKemayo: hmm, that's...interesting
03:18.49Funkeh`Ellipsis: Qft. :)
03:18.59AmadeoEllipsis: Water
03:19.01hyperChipmunkright, i don't figure i am
03:19.02Funkeh`Industrial: 25min
03:19.07KemayoEllipsis: For more information I recommend amtrak.com.
03:19.07Industrialk
03:19.13EllipsisAmadeo, depending on the LAN, even the water is caffeinated :P
03:19.14AmadeoKemayo: lol
03:19.17hyperChipmunkanything that results in a lesser degree of self-control really doesn't appeal to me
03:19.18Ellipsisbuzzwater ftw
03:19.23AmadeoI've only been to one LAN...QuakeCon
03:19.23Industrialplaying some ff_xpress_b1 until then :o (love the map)
03:19.24EllipsishyperChipmunk QFT
03:19.24KemayoAmadeo: Am I not helpful? :D
03:19.31AmadeoKemayo: I wish you were always around to help me
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03:19.50Funkeh`hyperChipmunk: I like loosing control
03:20.01Ellipsislosing control sucks
03:20.06AmadeohyperChipmunk: I honestly don't like the way getting a buzz (from alcohol!) feels
03:20.12Funkeh`Only when you need to be in control
03:20.18EllipsisI hate when I'm sleep deprived and I get so tired that I can't figure out wtf I'm doing
03:20.24Funkeh`Whn you don't (i.e. lan party) get rid of it
03:20.25AmadeoEllipsis: Good excuse
03:20.33sedai|wtf are you doing anyway :D
03:20.40Ellipsisgood question
03:20.53sedai|are you eating?
03:21.04Funkeh`Alcohol? Eh?
03:21.07sedai|are you.. coding?
03:21.13EllipsisI'm IRCing
03:21.14Ellipsisduh
03:21.24sedai|IRCing isnt very fun is it?
03:21.29Funkeh`CybIRCing
03:21.35Amadeobut is that irking, or I-R-C-ing?
03:21.45Ellipsiseye are seeing
03:21.53Amadeowhat are you seeing?
03:21.57sedai|i see you
03:22.03hyperChipmunkoh, that makes excellent sense
03:22.03sedai|in my monitor
03:22.04hyperChipmunkmis
03:22.17Funkeh`I don't code at 4:30 am
03:22.33Funkeh`Actually that a lie I did that yesterday.
03:22.35sedai|its only 9:22pm here
03:22.36Amadeocaffeine doesn't really do anything to me
03:22.48sedai|i code at all times
03:22.59sedai|not really coding though, because i dont make my own
03:23.08Funkeh`I don't code when I don't feel like it, I'll go with that one.
03:23.09IndustrialI drink 4 bullit on a day, thats about 12-16 cups of coffee
03:23.17Industrialand _then_ i feel something from caffeine
03:23.21Industrial>_O
03:23.22AmadeoYou can die from too much caffeine you know
03:23.34Funkeh`Industrial: weeee
03:23.51Funkeh`6xxkB/s
03:23.54Funkeh`10min
03:23.55Industrial:_
03:23.57Industrial:)
03:24.04EllipsisAmadeo: yeah, but you puke long before you can get that much into your system
03:24.12Ellipsisso it really prevents you from taking in enough
03:24.16Ellipsisunless you do it *really* fast
03:24.19AmadeoIt's easy to overdose on caffeine pills
03:24.22Ellipsislike, with caffeine pills or somethinhg
03:24.23Ellipsisyeh
03:24.25KemayoPlus, I recall that it's the equivalent of over 200 cups of coffee.
03:24.38AmadeoIt probably varies depending on your build/size
03:25.10Industrial1.8m/85kg :P?
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03:26.07sedai|i dont like caffeen
03:26.07AmadeoI'm not a doctor, I'm a troll!
03:26.25Funkeh`Ya MON
03:26.34Ellipsisis there a google calc script in here
03:26.54Funkeh`~1*1
03:26.55purl1
03:27.12Funkeh`~325235/5646
03:27.12purl57.604498760184
03:27.16hyperChipmunkwe have slavebot
03:27.58Funkeh`~45.88734*5503.0001/1.01
03:27.58purl250017.858028449526
03:27.58IndustrialFunkeh`: where are you located?
03:28.07Funkeh`Scotland
03:28.10Industrialgood
03:28.23Seerah~pi
03:28.24purlwell, pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091
03:28.25Funkeh`Why?
03:28.29rob`~e
03:28.30purl[e] a little more than 2, but less than 3 or portuguese for and, or very roughly 2.71828182, or mc^2, or the most worthless letter in the alphabet according to extensive research done by withoutclass
03:28.30Funkeh`lol
03:28.34Industrialping will be acceptable
03:28.35Industrial:P
03:28.41rob`~tau
03:28.41purlhmm... tau is the difference between a velocity and c or the freaks' name for phi or a Greek letter
03:29.09Seerah~i
03:29.09Ellipsishmm
03:29.10Industrial~urmum
03:29.11Industrial:D?
03:29.20Industrial:(
03:29.23Ellipsispurl knows less digits of e than I do
03:29.25Seerahno i?
03:29.25Ellipsis~fail purl
03:29.26purlpurl: Fail.
03:29.35Funkeh`purl, urmum is <action> humps Industrial's mum
03:29.35purlokay, Funkeh`
03:29.42Funkeh`~urmum
03:29.42purlACTION humps Industrial's mum
03:29.43Industrialits a seerah!
03:29.56Seerahhola!
03:29.57Industriallol. im so going to use that.
03:30.03Funkeh`<3 Seerah
03:30.30Industrialso um, sup?
03:30.31Ellipsispix plz!
03:30.33Ellipsisoh wait
03:30.39CIA-2203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50200 10TankPoints/ (9 files):
03:30.39CIA-22TankPoints:
03:30.39CIA-22- Move TankPoints over to StatFrameLib for paperdoll stuff
03:30.39CIA-22- Holding down the ALT key for mouseover wasn't working properly - changed to click
03:31.05IndustrialFunkeh`: eta
03:31.06Industrial?
03:31.15Funkeh`4min
03:31.19hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/myn.jpg
03:31.51CIA-2203aliset * r50201 10StatFrameLib/StatFrameLib-1.0/StatFrameLib-1.0.lua:
03:31.51CIA-22StatFrameLib:
03:31.51CIA-22- Whoops, left in debugging code. Brilliant.
03:31.52Ellipsisheh that sword looks like my bf's
03:31.53Ellipsis>_>
03:32.03Industrialfine.
03:32.17*** join/#wowace Godzmack (i=Godzmack@85-220-0-85.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is)
03:32.18Amadeowhat's a bebo?
03:32.24Funkeh`I dislike profiling websites, bebo, myspace etc
03:32.24hyperChipmunkthat's me practicing my art by mt. fuji
03:32.40Industrialhttp://img487.imageshack.us/img487/1696/picture8tz9.jpg
03:32.45Ellipsisbebo is one of those stupid social networking sites where you get some idiot who has you on his msn list and starts inviting you to it every 2 days
03:32.50Industrialthat's me on a really old webcam :o
03:33.00AmadeohyperChipmunk: I used to know a myn on Undernet, is that you?
03:33.03Ellipsishay cool, I didn't know "pix plz" worked in reverse
03:33.10hyperChipmunkAmadeo: no
03:33.11EllipsisI thought it was only a guys ask girls thing
03:33.12Industrial=D
03:33.18Ellipsismore pics plz!
03:33.20hyperChipmunklol
03:33.21AmadeoEllipsis: Ahh, I see
03:33.26Industrialhave only 1 :<
03:33.31Ellipsissadpanda
03:33.41hyperChipmunkthat's ok; you have more sources
03:33.47hyperChipmunkyou can afford only getting one from each
03:33.47Funkeh`The only pic i have on the webz is me at 17 trashed at the lan party
03:33.50Ellipsisgiev~
03:33.51Funkeh`and i mean trashed
03:34.01Funkeh`no :)
03:34.16Ellipsisaww
03:34.21Ellipsisnot even for me? *puppy eyes*
03:34.26Seerahhttp://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Seerah/Ryan/Ryanphoto.jpg
03:34.31Funkeh`straight swap, pic for pic
03:34.38Ellipsishmm
03:35.01Ellipsisdoes it have to be me at a LAN? because in those I tend to look really bad...
03:35.04Kemayo(Not.  Creepy.  At.  All.)
03:35.12AmadeoKemayo: This whole picture trading thing is weird :P
03:35.13Ellipsissomething to do with the zombie effect
03:35.26AmadeoFirst it's "I hate bebo" then, hay pix? :P
03:35.29Funkeh`I'm trashed, I'm sure you can't do worse
03:35.34Ellipsiswell
03:35.40EllipsisI'll look for one from the last LAN I went to
03:36.05CIA-2203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50202 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
03:36.05CIA-22TankPoints:
03:36.05CIA-22- Again with the typos!
03:38.02Ellipsisyay, a 75 page photo album to look through
03:38.18kebinusanhow bizzare
03:38.52kebinusanmy push to talk key in ventrilo started working under wine
03:38.58kebinusanw/o the window being the focus
03:39.21Ellipsisgrats
03:39.22liquidzooupdate to the new version of wine today?
03:39.44Funkeh`really small picture of me when we were helping the dudes pack up http://www.multiplay.co.uk/coverage/66/pictures/thumbs/pkdown007.jpg
03:40.07AmadeoFunkeh`: rofl
03:40.20Funkeh`Had short highlighted hair then
03:40.33AmadeoYeah, since we can all see!
03:40.45Funkeh`:)
03:40.55Funkeh`well the thumbnail works
03:41.00Funkeh`but the idiots fucked up the database
03:41.05Funkeh`so trying to expand it errors
03:41.11hyperChipmunkrofl
03:41.24Ellipsisooh, there's about an inch or two of the back of my head in this one
03:41.29hyperChipmunkhere's a pic of me -> .
03:41.43hyperChipmunki wasn't looking my best that day
03:42.12Ellipsisnormally I wouldn't bother posting a picture where you can't see anything but a bit of my hair, but if Funkeh`s counts...
03:42.12hyperChipmunkyou can see i got a little sunburned the day before
03:42.17hyperChipmunkrofl
03:42.39Seerahsilly rodent
03:42.56SeerahI put up a real pic :P
03:42.59Funkeh`:)
03:43.03hyperChipmunkso did I
03:43.03AmadeoSeerah is a girl? I thought all female gnomes were guys
03:43.07Ellipsis50 pages in...
03:43.09hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/myn.jpg
03:43.15KemayohyperChipmunk: You were on your period, huh?
03:43.21IndustrialFunkeh`: :D?
03:43.36Funkeh`oh yeah
03:43.40Industrial:P
03:43.41Seerahno, Amadeo - that's all female NE's
03:43.50Seerah(unless it's an alt... or... wait...)
03:43.54AmadeoSeerah: Female NE Priests are usually girls
03:43.56hyperChipmunki have a female NE too
03:44.01Ellipsisexcept the female nelfs who are really female, because they all fail @ WoW
03:44.08Ellipsisso they don't even count anyway
03:44.18hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/elf.jpg
03:44.19AmadeoSome are decent
03:44.23Industrialthere is one wow character you KNOW no guy is playing
03:44.24Industrialever
03:44.30Industrialdwarf female.
03:44.42Ellipsisactually
03:44.44EllipsisI knew one
03:44.49hyperChipmunkthat's because nobody plays a dwarf female
03:44.50Ellipsissorry Industrial
03:44.52hyperChipmunkperiod.
03:44.54Industrialo :p
03:44.56AmadeoI knew one also
03:45.04Amadeobut she was lesbian, if that counts :P
03:45.07Ellipsishe played a dorf priest and was one of those "I'd rather look at a girl's ass than a guy's" people
03:45.11hyperChipmunkyou know, i never took a picture of me with my elf
03:45.13hyperChipmunki should do that
03:45.19AmadeohyperChipmunk: Make out with it!
03:45.22hyperChipmunklol
03:45.28hyperChipmunkshe's like 6.5 ft tall
03:45.36AmadeoDamn
03:45.44hyperChipmunki only come up to her chest
03:45.44AmadeoStand on a box
03:45.47hyperChipmunkhehe
03:46.03Funkeh`Ellipsis: oki I got a pic
03:46.17Industrial~drumroll
03:46.18purlACTION starts a drumroll
03:46.37EllipsishyperChipmunk next to his elf is probably like me next to my bf XD
03:46.48Funkeh`I'll wait for yuors first :)
03:46.56Ellipsisstill looking =[
03:47.02Ellipsispage 68
03:47.10hyperChipmunki won mine in a screenshot contest; same with your bf?
03:47.11EllipsisI swear I'm in here somewhere
03:47.16Ellipsisyup hyperChipmunk
03:47.29Ellipsisactually he was my GM, I seduced him
03:47.34Ellipsissame thing right?
03:47.35Funkeh`its a pic of me and a few others and my x gf
03:48.10Funkeh`Industrial: done
03:48.26Ellipsisooh! I found one
03:49.00IndustrialFunkeh`: 194.154.191.8:27017
03:49.17hyperChipmunkhttp://worldofwarcraft.com/contests/05-06-09/
03:50.02Ellipsisit's kinda old but yoyu get what you pay for
03:50.18AmadeoHow much does Funkeh` have to pay?
03:50.21hyperChipmunkmeh, it doesn't show the winners page
03:50.21Ellipsispix
03:50.31Funkeh`I paid a lot
03:51.03hyperChipmunkhttp://worldofwarcraft.com/contests/05-06-09/winners.html  aha! link dead-reckoning comes through
03:51.22hyperChipmunknotice i'm so awesome that i was one of the honorable mention too
03:51.43Amadeohahah
03:51.44Ellipsisthat cutout is pretty hot
03:51.45Amadeonice
03:52.05hyperChipmunki like my HM one better actually
03:52.24IndustrialEllipsis: gogo :D
03:52.28IndustrialFunkeh`: gogo :D
03:52.38Funkeh`steam is sloow :(
03:52.51EllipsisIndustrial - me what now?
03:52.59Industrialpix, both, now.
03:53.01Industrial=D
03:53.04Ellipsiswe already traded kthxbai
03:53.05Ellipsis:D
03:53.50CIA-2203chuanhsing * r50203 10BagSync/ (BagSync.toc locals/tw.lua):
03:53.50CIA-22BagSync:
03:53.50CIA-22- add tw localization
03:53.55Industrialbut
03:53.58Industrialwheres the link
03:53.59Industrial:P
03:54.06Amadeowhere's the beef!
03:54.07EllipsisIndustrial: in our PMs, winnar
03:54.13Industrial<PROTECTED>
03:54.33Ellipsistake a better pic and I'll trade you mine for it ;D
03:54.41IndustrialFunkeh`: 85.234.148.34:27015
03:54.47IndustrialI dont have any means
03:54.48Industrial:P
03:54.51Funkeh`ffs
03:54.58Funkeh`I need to install some sdk shit
03:55.07Industrial:o?
03:55.15Funkeh`'source sdk base'
03:55.24Industrialoh, yeah, thats what it runs on..
03:55.24Ellipsis(translation: alone time with my pictar)
03:55.52hyperChipmunkmeh, if i knew we were bartering, i would have held back
03:55.59Funkeh`lol started at 92% so np
03:56.17AmadeoYou should know better, hyperChipmunk :P
03:56.23AmadeoI already knew it!
03:58.44Amadeoaggro
04:00.30Funkeh`Industrial: slooow
04:00.34Funkeh`93%
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04:01.58*** join/#wowace Ellipsis_ (n=ellipsis@cpe-76-168-204-11.socal.res.rr.com)
04:02.06Ellipsis_POP! goes the router
04:02.15Funkeh`lol
04:02.21Funkeh`Was talking to myself then?
04:02.25Ellipsisprobably
04:02.26Ellipsis>_>
04:02.56Funkeh`Industrial: 94% make it go faster :(
04:03.04Ellipsisit's not my fault, my bf chose the *worst* router we have for our temporary setup
04:03.11Ellipsisit's not even gigabit :(
04:03.44Funkeh`lol, don't complain, if you lived in the UK you would know how good you guysd have it ;p
04:04.11Ellipsisheh
04:04.18Ellipsisat least we don't have bandwidth limits
04:04.31Funkeh`hehe
04:04.34Silowyihmm
04:04.40Funkeh`I was forced to buy a router from my ISP
04:04.43EllipsisI love making fun of my non-US friends when they say they can't download something because they're close to their cap
04:04.44SilowyiI know its an easy fight and we typically walk right past this guy
04:04.44Funkeh`jsut to make it work
04:04.57Funkeh`Ellipsis: :'(
04:05.22Funkeh`To be honest my cap is pretty big
04:05.25Funkeh`never hit it
04:05.29Ellipsisaww
04:05.29Silowyibut can anyone else confirm that Lurker's plume cooldown is faster than before? He's pluming every 5 seconds, and the melee dps is getting chain plumed before we can get back to the platform
04:06.14SilowyiAlso it "feels" like Whirl's range was increased slightly
04:06.47Funkeh`Silowyi: I've been told they changed it
04:06.58SilowyiFunkeh`: ah so it's not just me
04:07.02Funkeh`I won't be able to test/fix BigWigs untill sunday probably
04:07.50Funkeh`Until then, blame Ellipsis for having a bad router
04:08.25Ellipsisthere's a running joke in my family (aunts and uncles, cousins, etc.) that whatever goes wrong is my fault
04:08.37Ellipsisit seems to extend to others who don't know the joke as well sometimes
04:08.46EllipsisI wonder if I'm missing something
04:08.53Funkeh`Doesn't really sound funny :x
04:09.42Funkeh`Industrial: You're in some random european country aren't you
04:09.51Funkeh`hmm
04:09.54Funkeh`belgium?
04:10.02Industrialthe netherlands
04:10.10Funkeh`close enough
04:10.13Industrial:p
04:10.16Industrialyesh why
04:10.23Funkeh`Just wondering
04:10.25Industrialk
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04:12.19Industrialdone :P?
04:12.26Funkeh`yeah 96% done
04:12.47Ellipsisin other words, halfway
04:12.52*** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-222-116.ip.adam.com.au)
04:12.53Funkeh`lets see if I can boot it up anyway
04:12.54NimbleRabitIs itemsync still the primary addon for linking and viewing items or should I get something else?
04:13.11xyuCan someone give me the standard 5man pally tank spec?
04:13.21xyu^^
04:13.34CIA-2203stormfx * r50204 10cyCircled/plugins/TrackBar.lua:
04:13.34CIA-22cyCircled:
04:13.34CIA-22- Updated Trackbar Plugin.(Elegos)
04:13.58Funkeh`Industrial: sucess!
04:13.58Industrialxyu: on wowwiki
04:14.04IndustrialFunkeh`: good, but the map changed
04:14.04Industrialagain
04:14.24xyuIndustrial: what would i search?
04:14.33xyujust paladin?
04:14.36Industrialwowwiki.com/paladin_builds
04:15.15Funkeh`Industrial: same IP?
04:16.03Industrial194.154.191.21:27017
04:16.04Industrialgogo
04:16.20Ellipsisdoes that server pingkick?
04:16.22EllipsisI wanna spec =[
04:16.42kebinusanrecount doesnt let you spam reports since the patch
04:16.50kebinusan~seen cryect
04:16.52purlcryect <n=fefsd@pool-72-95-251-159.pitbpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 28d 3h 44m 54s ago, saying: 'charon: it can't tell the difference between mobs of the same name (you don't get any unit id for them or anything) so he couldn't do that'.
04:16.58kebinusan:-( 28 days
04:17.07Funkeh`try assessment
04:18.23Funkeh`Industrial: that server is empty
04:18.51Ellipsisunthrottle your pr0n and tell me if it pingkicks!
04:19.50Silowyiwe get unitIDs in 2.4 don't we?
04:19.52Silowyior is that 2.3
04:22.50Ellipsisugh, wow
04:23.00Ellipsistropical flavor starburst = bad idea
04:24.44Seerahpink ones are good
04:24.53Seerahpina colada = bad
04:24.55Ellipsisthe pink ones are ok, the orange ones are pretty good
04:24.59Ellipsisthe other two are just vile
04:25.17SeerahI don't mind the red/purple/whatever one either
04:25.26Ellipsisyou can have mine
04:25.26Ellipsis:P
04:25.27Seerahbut pina colada flavored starbursts?.....
04:25.29Seerah:D
04:25.58EllipsisI think it's something in the coconut flavoring they use
04:26.04Ellipsisit just tastes...wrong
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04:27.49xyuhmm spellbinder has a weird bug, i can't bind things using modifies.
04:27.58xyuif i do it wil automatically set key as "SHIFT-LSHIFT"
04:28.32sedai|whats right
04:28.53sedai|cause if thats right... i dont want to be wrong
04:29.00sedai|jk what we talking about now?
04:29.15sedai|oh
04:29.27Ellipsisxyu: disable myBindings2
04:33.22liquidzooyay for wine errors getting fixed.
04:34.59sedai|what is good macro for poping out of cat form
04:35.23sedai|like /cancel catform(rank x)?
04:35.56Ellipsis/cancelaura Cat Form
04:40.26*** join/#wowace Fin (n=Fin@e245.dkm.cz)
04:40.47Finfinally
04:41.11Ellipsiso.O
04:41.11Finhello!
04:41.15Ellipsishi!
04:41.21Finfuckin computers, honestly
04:41.26Ellipsisyou are?
04:41.28Ellipsiscan I watch?
04:41.39Finwell I'm not very good
04:41.45Ellipsiso.O
04:42.00Finso far all I've ended up with is a sore dick and a sticky keyboard
04:42.04buuWhat is a going on in here?
04:42.11Ellipsisbuu: you don't want to know.
04:42.12Finperseverance though, that's the key
04:42.19Finjust
04:42.21Fingot
04:42.22Finto keep
04:42.26Fin*grunt* trying
04:42.30EllipsisO.O
04:42.30buuEllipsis: What in the wide wide world of sports is a-goin' on in here?
04:42.43EllipsisFin is, uh...
04:42.51Ellipsisyeah.
04:42.53CIA-22tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r554 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Updating LegoBlock to Beta0-r79
04:42.58EllipsisI don't even know how to say it
04:43.05Finfinished
04:43.08Ellipsisgrats
04:43.11buuhaha
04:43.29SeerahMan, I knew I should have closed out irc......
04:43.35Finhey! hello Seerah!
04:43.43Seerahhello my drunk friend!
04:44.02FinI don't remember you being on IRC before, maybe that's just my me... mmm...what's it... that thing
04:44.10Finanyway
04:44.12SeerahI bet that new recycle bin makes your computer so much more attractive...
04:44.30Finwell, I have to be honest, not really - but it does go well with the surroundings
04:44.42Seerahhey!!  did you see the beer goggles for the new BrewFest? :)
04:45.06Finyeah! this is the most awesomest present EVER from Blizzard
04:45.11Seerahsubtext is something like "makes everyone look attractive"
04:45.14Fina BEER HOLIDAY
04:45.21Finguaranteed!
04:45.27Seerahwahoo!
04:45.32Finyeah baby
04:45.57SeerahI'm updating my Suitcase... I may just go with wobin's idea of "updated stuff"
04:46.05Seerahfor my changelog
04:46.08Finooh poo, I should've started with a ~seen fin, could've figured out how long I've been starved of IRC
04:46.18Finno!
04:46.20Finthat's naughty!
04:46.24Seerah~seen fin
04:46.25purlfin is currently on #wowi-lounge (5m 59s) #wowace (5m 59s). Has said a total of 23 messages. Is idling for 5s, last said: 'that's naughty!'.
04:46.40Finyeah, well, purl's... just seen me, so it won't work now
04:46.47Finhuh, I wonder...
04:46.55CIA-22tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r555 10/trunk/GuildBlock/GuildBlock.lua: GuildBlock - Make list refresh when you join a guild
04:47.03Seerahyeah, but if you said it, would purl say "last said: '~seen fin'
04:47.30Finnah, it's the one before then
04:47.32Fin~seen fin
04:47.33purlfin is currently on #wowi-lounge (7m 7s) #wowace (7m 7s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen fin'.
04:47.39Finoh! I sit corrected
04:47.45Fincould've sworn it was diffr'nt
04:47.45Seerah<PROTECTED>
04:48.01Finaha
04:48.06Finthank you Indy
04:48.09Finfin <i=PJIRCUse@r5da17.net.upc.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 16h 12m 1s ago, saying: 'nope... this sucks the hard one, it's quite good but well, no'.
04:48.20Finno way, can't've been only 9 days...
04:48.30Nick2Ermn... Dumb question: How do you create a note on Cartographer map?
04:48.38Finoh wait, I did come on once via that stupid java client on ui.worldofincgamers.org
04:48.41Seerahmaybe you just don't remember 9 days ago ;)
04:48.58FinNick2: right click the map where you want the note, new note
04:49.09Nick2Right click zooms out
04:49.10Finif there's an item there already sometimes the option's not there
04:49.15Fintry ctrl+right click
04:49.17Finor alt+
04:49.21FinI think ctrl+ actually
04:49.25Nick2Works, ctrl, thanks.
04:49.42Finthere's addons that create slash commands and stuff also, but... you didn't ask that
04:49.50FinI  know
04:50.04Finpgl              ttyp3    fini             Tue Aug  7 17:10 - 09:53 (1+16:43)
04:50.14Finthat as when I shut down my old bsd box
04:50.24Finthat's like, aeons ago!
04:50.26Finfuck
04:51.39aestilcan i do a logic thing that says, if PLAYER_PARTY_CHANGE get width of eePanelx and if it != getwidth/getheight of GridLayout frame then SetWidth/SetHeight blah blah?
04:51.56Finyes
04:52.01Finand it's ~=
04:52.07aestilin lua?
04:52.12Finyes
04:52.18Finno, PHP, what d'you think
04:52.19Fin:P
04:52.30Seerah:P
04:52.39Seerahyes, lua does ~=
04:52.50FinI really like ~= instead of !=
04:53.08SeerahI always think of ~= as "about"
04:53.15FinI always thought that was =~
04:53.17Seerahyou know, when the ~ gets put on top of the =
04:53.27Finyeah... never liked fonts that do that
04:53.29Finoh!
04:53.32Funkeh`strange conversation
04:53.33Finwait, you mean directly above
04:53.36Seerahyes
04:53.36Finlink a pina colada
04:53.40Seerahyeah
04:53.43Funkeh`I'm back after getting my ass kicked by Industrial
04:53.46Seerahmathmatical symbol
04:53.53Finwere you NAUGHTY
04:54.32FinI'm back after getting my arse kicked by stupid PCs that die on me
04:54.50Seerahokay, time to see how much of my suitcase is errors from 2.2 and from trying to delete now duplicated libs......  >.>
04:55.04Funkeh`Okay time for me to sleep
04:55.06Funkeh`nn!
04:55.09Seerahnn
04:55.18FinIRC, the promised land! where a man can dream! and waste hours chatting about complete bullshit
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04:58.48Fin-to idle+idling
05:00.39QuantumDelta<3 Antiarc
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05:02.10kandarzwhat's the ideal way to get mousebutton pressed on a button, I need right mouse button but I seam to only get left mouse button clicks
05:07.00Solecheck gladiator
05:08.59Solekandarz:  button:SetAttribute("type1", "macro")
05:09.01Solebutton:SetAttribute("macrotext1", macro1)
05:09.05Solethat essentially does it
05:09.28Soleright mouse button is simply  type2 and macrotext2
05:09.56CIA-22tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r556 10/trunk/tekup.lua: lil lua script on only svn up folders in my addons folder that are from my repo
05:10.34Soleha wah?
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05:11.12Gamefaqhi
05:11.26kandarzI'm not sure how to use that :| I have a script for Onclick that calls my function with arg1, but arg1 only is LeftButton and nil if rightbutton
05:12.06SoleI create a button which inherits from SecureActionButtonTemplate
05:12.11Solethen I just set those attributes
05:15.34kandarzand if I'm not using SecureActionButtonTemplate?
05:19.45kandarzgot it :)
05:21.42CIA-2203kemayo * r50205 10AuldLangSyne/Note/Note.lua:
05:21.42CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
05:21.42CIA-22-Note: Create a tab for generic notes in the social panel.
05:22.36Anduneso..  if I'm running well over 300 addons, and I'm consistently crashing when zoning into instances, what's the easiest way to figure out which ones at fault?  Hoping there's a WoW coredump or something, so I don't have to go disabling mods one at a time trying to find the culprit..
05:23.31Finseriously?
05:23.40Findisable half of them, see if the problem's still there, repeat
05:23.51Paradoxmight be a combination of addons :) which will be even harder to track down
05:23.51Finthat's the *only* way
05:23.58Finunless you get lucky
05:24.04AnduneYes, I've done that many times before when finding mod issues.  Just can't help but think that WoW might actually log which one it was executing when it crashed.
05:24.22Andunebut it sounds like the answer's no.  Oh well, get to do it the hard way then  :P
05:24.25FinI've never found any kind of useful log produced by WoW.exe
05:24.41FinFrameXML looks like it *could* be useful, but I haven't figured out how yet
05:24.52Fins/FrameXML/FrameXML.log/
05:25.38Finyou have checked c:\Program Files\World of warcraft\Logs\ (or the equivalent on your system) - right?
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05:34.03AntiarcMan, Kael is a fun fight
05:34.28kandarzmy guild blows and can't get warlocks to join so we can't aoe weapons worth shit
05:35.54AntiarcWe're just learning phase 2, got to phase 3 with 2 up
05:36.10AntiarcFun to learn thou
05:38.26kandarzwe def have 1 raiding warlock
05:38.29kandarzmakes it hard to aoe
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05:39.33QuantumDeltagief my pc fixed so i can get to kael :<
05:40.00GrissomI hate to ask, but I have to...how does one go about coloring things with DogTag-2.0?
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05:42.22cchomeanyone here a rogue doing pvps?
05:42.22NimbleRabitso my mouse buttons 4 and 5 aren't working
05:42.33NimbleRabitanyone know anything about how to fix taht?  started happenign recently
05:42.38NimbleRabitcchome: I'm a pvp rogue
05:42.42cchomelosing COMBOPTS IN AREANS when ppl FD
05:42.58NimbleRabityou don't lose combo points when a hunter feign deaths
05:43.00cchomeiceblock
05:43.07cchomethis patch i am
05:43.11NimbleRabitI'm not T_T
05:46.12cchomeshitty
05:46.15cchomeiceblock too
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05:54.30Arcaiais Sheppard a sheep watcher?
05:54.44kandarzjust guessing, but that sounds logical
05:55.26Arcaiayea
05:55.32Arcaiait appears to be a universal cc watch
05:55.49Arcaiait looks crazy out of date though
05:56.37Finhmm
05:56.41Finthat didn't work properly
05:57.33Arcaiawhats the best cc watch
05:57.41Arcaiathat isnt crazy compilation
05:57.47Arcaiaclasstimer = buffs etc too
05:57.50Arcaiadont want that, just cc
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06:03.54Arcaiaand no responses
06:06.20ennuilgLots of people seem to use CCBreaker, but I'm not sure if that just notifies when someone breaks a cc, or whether it gives timers for the caster too.
06:07.32ZhinjioGood evening.
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06:12.36CIA-2203recluse * r50206 10NiHao/ (. NiHao.lua NiHao.toc embeds.xml icon.tga libs/):
06:12.36CIA-22NiHao: initial import
06:12.36CIA-22- Monitors farming efficiency by tracking item values in addition to coins when looting
06:12.36CIA-22- Very alpha state currently
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06:16.20StormFX2Hey all.
06:16.47CIA-2203damjau * r50207 10NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc):
06:16.47CIA-22NextStep: 0.76 update
06:16.47CIA-22- change toc version
06:16.47CIA-22- update data
06:16.58StormFX2Was there a change recently to Shared Media Lib? For some reason, none of my addons will load SML except PitBull.
06:17.22CIA-2203recluse * r50208 10NiHao/libs/:
06:17.22CIA-22NiHao:
06:17.22CIA-22- Setting initial externals and various propsets
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06:24.08StormFX2OK. This is really weird. This morning, everything worked fine. Now all of a sudden, none of my additions to SharedMedia Lib are working. Anyone have any ideas?
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06:28.10Arcaiayou updated sharedmedia
06:28.18Arcaiaand in turn lost all of your additions
06:31.49StormFX2No
06:31.57StormFX2I use a custom addon to add them
06:32.36StormFX2For some reason, no addons are loading SML except for Pitbull. (My custom font and textures don't show up unless PitBull is loaded)
06:32.43KemayoStormFX2: When you updated, was LibSharedMedia-2.0 added in?
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06:32.51StormFX2I'm using embeds
06:33.22StormFX2Hm..
06:33.44StormFX2If just ClearFont is enabled, shouldn't IT load the font?
06:34.12StormFX2When was 2.0 added?
06:34.34StormFX2I think clear font is still using 1.0. So are most of the rest
06:37.53StormFX2So I'm going to guess it's just an issue with certain addons having yet to upgrade to LibSharedMedia-2.0?
06:38.39KemayoPresumably.  2.0 was added in the last few days, I think.
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06:39.31AntiarcHerein we observe the suck for melee that is Al'ar + Kael trash + Kael: http://wowwebstats.com/nsdchwjwte3p3
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06:41.16StormFX2I see. Hm... But if an addon, for example, ClearFont2, is loading SML 1.0, is 2.0 disabling 1.0 and the Addon and making my custom SML:Register calls pointless? I'm just trying to figure it out >.<
06:41.52CIA-2203damjau * r50209 10WhoDrop/ (7 files):
06:41.52CIA-22WhoDrop - 0.6 update
06:41.52CIA-22- rebuild data table
06:41.52CIA-22- update data
06:42.41StormFX2Meh, I guess I just need to hack CF2 and update my custom mod's SML >.<
06:42.58StormFX2I can't live without my font! >)
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06:45.35CIA-2203toadkiller * r50210 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
06:45.35CIA-22PeriodicTable-3.0:
06:45.35CIA-22- Crafted Potion Injectors
06:45.57StormFX2Oh my.. I just figured it out. My custom mod has a conditional that checks for SML 1.0. If 2.0 disables it, it won't be called >.<
06:46.06StormFX2snap
06:48.36CIA-2203darchon * r50211 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua:
06:48.36CIA-22Chronometer:
06:48.36CIA-22- fixed position issue by Andryk
06:50.06CIA-2203krakhaan * r50212 10AB/AB.lua:
06:50.06CIA-22AB:
06:50.06CIA-22- fixed bug with sz variable
06:52.30cchomeanyone lose 14pts when u enter BE arena?
06:52.33cchomeweird shit
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07:02.42kadrahil!vs us stormreaver kadrahil us stormreaver spacetotem
07:02.48ThraeBotkadrahil: Kadrahil vs Spacetotem! A L70 hunter and a L70 warrior square off!; 41/20/0 vs 33/28/0; Spacetotem wins by 503 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
07:02.52kadrahil:(
07:03.23kadrahili'm about to go fight him for ganking in stonetalon
07:03.26kadrahillol
07:05.21yssarilanyone know a mod where i can move minimap buttons to anywhere i want?
07:08.06Grumerm yes
07:08.17Trell_wow; so 2.2.2 is going live this Tues/wed, huh?
07:08.19Mecdemortis there a way for a frame to inherit it's parent's scripts
07:08.25GrumDetachedMiniButtons
07:08.27kadrahilahaha he attacked the flight master and i one shotted him
07:08.37xyuhmm parot acting kind of strange, i soemtimes get a "Pet 304" scrolling down the damage area, but i'm on a pally o_O
07:08.38xyuw/ no pet
07:09.02xyuhappens on my mage too
07:09.13Grummaybe some of your spells have an additional hit
07:09.14yssarilthanks grum
07:09.18Grumwithout your name in the combatlog
07:09.29yssarilhave had the parrot thing happen too
07:10.07xyunah it happens when i'm just running around
07:10.16xyulike it happened while running up the stairs to kara portal
07:10.21Grumis there any way you can force mirc to take 'freenode settings' even if you are not on a freenode server
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07:11.46Grumfreenode has the really wonderful property of putting a + or - before every privmsg/action it sends
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07:11.56Grumto indicate if the user is registered or not
07:12.03Grumbut via proxy mirc just looses its mind
07:12.06GrumAND ITS ANNOYING
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07:17.26ckknightEllipsis: http://xkcd.com/322/
07:18.28Grumah fun it's called CAPAB
07:18.59Thelynackknight: I prefer http://xkcd.com/101/
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07:19.14Grumckknight: lol! :D
07:22.42ckknightwell, it's meant to make fun of the relationship Ellipsis and I have
07:22.53ckknightwe joke back and forth and I ask for bewb shots
07:23.52Shirdid you get em? O.o
07:24.03Shiror did you get shot? ^^
07:25.47Shirmmm
07:26.18Keiasckknight, what made you decide on the name Fubar?
07:26.38ckknightCairenn suggested it, seemed like a good enough idea
07:26.48ckknightShir: got a face pic, not allowed to share it, though
07:27.10Grumi wouldn't share that either, unless you want to get killed :D
07:27.21Grum+violently in your sleep
07:27.31Keiasahh ok
07:28.34ckknightGrum: share what?
07:29.08Grumlol .. sorry i'm even confusing myself
07:29.20Grumtrying to fix a stupid mirc-problem (also Shir atm)
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07:30.49CIA-2203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50213 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
07:30.49CIA-22TankPoints:
07:30.50CIA-22- First draft of EffectiveHealth
07:30.50CIA-22- Some fixes
07:33.21CIA-2203recluse * r50214 10NiHao/NiHao.lua:
07:33.21CIA-22NiHao:
07:33.21CIA-22- Added session reset command
07:33.21CIA-22- Added suppression when crafting window open and better vendor suppression
07:40.03CIA-2203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50215 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
07:40.03CIA-22TankPoints:
07:40.03CIA-22- Update the paperdoll stats when equipment changes
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07:48.08xyuis 480g Buyout good for Bracers of the Green Fortress http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23538#created-by
07:48.26Xinhuanxyu: it uses a nether?
07:48.30xyuyes
07:48.35cncfanaticsfirst boss in kara drops just as good bracers for free
07:48.39Xinhuanso just figure out the raw mats cost based on AH prices
07:48.46Xinhuanand then figure out how much the nether+craftingfee is
07:49.20xyuoki. i'll see how much it'd cost if i got mats + bought their nether/craft
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07:50.06xyuwhat bracers are off atumen?
07:50.11xyuor whatever his name is
07:50.49cncfanaticsmy pal has them
07:50.54xyuhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28502
07:50.55xyuthese ones?
07:50.56cncfanatics!c eu khadgar evolve
07:50.59ThraeBotcncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 13147 HP; 4428 Mana; 81 mana regen; 16127 Armour; 596 AP; 88.100 Melee DPS; 5.65% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 245 +spell dmg/heal; 287 defense; 19.32% dodge; 20.91% block; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 768 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bl7uf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36eekt ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 04:06:06 2007 EST ]]
07:51.02cncfanaticsyea those
07:51.04xyuoki
07:51.16cncfanaticsnot worth using gold on green fortress imio
07:51.21cncfanaticsu can pug whole kara anyway
07:51.27xyuyea
07:51.36xyubut i'm more of an instant gratifcation kind of guy ^^
07:52.02xyui just specced prot for first time since 70.
07:52.09xyutrying to fill in my missing pieces of gear
07:52.18xyuneed bracers, boots, shoulders
07:52.26cncfanaticsheh
07:52.32cncfanaticswarr or pala ?
07:52.33xyustill wearing healing boots lol
07:52.35xyupal
07:53.05cncfanaticscheck my pal's gear :)
07:53.06xyui just picked up timewarden's, jadeskull, and gloves/helm of right.  
07:53.12rob`you can get the boots of the protector recipe pretty cheap these days if you're a smith
07:53.21rob`i've seen it go for 400g
07:53.24xyuno, but my RL friend is
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07:53.34rob`it's a bop item on a boe recipe :(
07:53.36rob`so no dice there
07:53.41xyuah
07:55.02xyuwhre'd you get boots of elusion, my armory is running slow
07:55.04Mecdemortis there a way to register a dewdrop dropdown with multiple frames?
07:55.07rob`http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=sl=8;ub=2;cr=22;crs=1;crv=10#0-2+1
07:55.17rob`there's a wowhead search of plate boots with some stam
07:55.27xyuoki
07:55.34AdysWhat happened to bartender's last version?
07:55.51cncfanaticstell us ?
07:55.52CIA-2203hegarol * r50216 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
07:55.52CIA-22AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
07:55.52CIA-22- Hyjal trash added
07:55.52nevcairielwhats wrong with bartender?
07:56.10Adysit doesnt show anything
07:56.20AdysNo errors, no bar, no options
07:56.26nevcairieldid you just update?
07:56.34Adys3 mins ago yeah
07:56.38Adysreinstalled it, too
07:56.45nevcairielwas the game running, while you updated?
07:57.05AdysNope
07:57.15nevcairielyou broke something, then
07:57.27NickenyfikenOnly problem i had with new versions is that macro text isn't hidden.
07:57.30AdysI just rolled it back to an earlier one, no big deal
07:57.38Adyswas just wondering
07:58.49CIA-2203hegarol * r50217 10AtlasLoot/ (Core/ExtraText.lua Instances/instances.en.lua):
07:58.49CIA-22AtlasLoot:
07:58.49CIA-22- Hyjal trash added
07:59.23CIA-2203ammo * r50218 10FuBarAce/FuBar_Panel.lua: FuBarAce: fix background texture path
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08:01.10CIA-2203nevcairiel * r50219 10Bartender3/Options.lua: Bartender3: fix macrotext option not working until the buttons get refreshed by some game event
08:01.21xyuwhat gems should i put into my timewarden's leggings?  i don't have 490 def yet,  (476)
08:01.30xyu3  solid stars?
08:01.39Grumxyu: 3x12sta
08:01.44xyuoki
08:01.47rob`generally yeah, that's your default choice
08:01.48nevcairielNickenyfiken: reporting bugs gets them fixed :P
08:01.50Grumyou'll get the def sooner or later
08:01.59Grumyou dont have to waste gemslots on it
08:02.06xyuyeah
08:02.08Grumbtw, id you are still gearing up, get the cloak from SV last boss :)
08:02.12Grumit's TEH IMBAH
08:02.18rob`devilshark cape is ridiculous
08:02.18cncfanaticsagree
08:02.20cncfanaticsthat cloak is win
08:02.42xyuis it from heroic?
08:02.51rob`if you really want good gear advice, though - hit up maintankadin
08:02.53rob`search google for it
08:02.57rob`they have great gear stickies
08:03.01GrumCrest of Shatar also *very* good (Exalter Sha'tar), Sun Eater (Heroic Mechanar - last boss)
08:03.09Grumalternative shield, Boss 2 from Botanica
08:03.18Grumjust grind till you get that or exalted with em ^^
08:03.28xyui'm using platinum shield of val atm
08:03.30rob`grum: Paladins should generally avoid mitigation weapons - spell damage weapons get you a lot more bang for your itemization buck :)
08:03.34xyui'm exalted w/ sha'tar already tho
08:03.45rob`the cheapest place to get a buttload of +dmg is on your weapon.
08:03.52Grummmm i kind assumed xyu was a warrior ^^
08:04.01rob`so you lose a liiiiitle bit of stam/def but you get a LOT of threat.
08:04.07xyui'm using greatsword of horrid dreams atm
08:04.07rob`^^ all good
08:04.08xyuenchanted
08:04.12rob`I have a suneater with mongoose
08:04.15rob`for some fights
08:04.20rob`it has its place :D
08:04.22Grumrob`: then exalted HH (of you are alliance)
08:04.26`-FISKER_Q\tsk nevcairiel
08:04.27CIA-2203ammo * r50220 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: fix positioning problems with the witchhunt frame. You might have to do /script WitchHunt.db.profile.x = nil; WitchHunt.db.profile.y = nil and /rl to get teh frame back but after that it's fine and dandy
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08:04.45`-FISKER_Q\and here i was tearing my office apart looking to find out why macro text didn't disable
08:04.52rob`one of the best paladin weapons is the exalted LC mace, imho.  Especially if you like seal of vengeance :)
08:05.00xyui'm hord
08:05.01Grumoh yes
08:05.01xyue
08:05.09Grumi even have that on my priest (holy) for Leotheras gear ^^
08:05.15`-FISKER_Q\yeah because everyone is OVERPOWERED ALLIANCE rob`
08:05.31rob`hey, didn't mean to ruffle feathers. :)  It's what I'm familiar with.
08:05.44Grumsame here
08:05.46Grumgnomes ftw!
08:05.56`-FISKER_Q\gnome paladins?
08:05.56rob`I've heard that some horde paladins get good results with a mitigation, white DPS weapon and seal of blood :)
08:06.01rob`at least, for farm content.
08:06.14Grumyou gotto <3 [Farmer's Broom] :D
08:06.39xyuis that devilshark cloak from a heroic drop?
08:06.43`-FISKER_Q\omg awesome
08:06.44rob`nope
08:06.47xyusweet
08:06.47rob`it's regular
08:06.52xyui'll go try running that now :)
08:06.57rob`though I ran SV until, like, last month for it >_<
08:07.03Nickenyfikennevcairiel: O RLY? :-P
08:07.10rob`#insert<usual_gripe_about_drop_rates>
08:07.11cncfanaticsrob`: when ur a tank u don't want to do only farm content
08:07.22rob`cnc: yeah no doubt eh
08:07.34rob`if I have to run one more karazhan my eyes will bleed
08:07.41cncfanaticsI did kara so much times
08:07.43cncfanaticsI don't mind
08:07.48cncfanaticsonly thing my idiot ex guild could do
08:07.56xyuhmm, you think i'll be alright tanking SV w/ 9300 hp unbuffed,  476 def, 13k armor?
08:08.00Herrgooooooooood moooorning womnam
08:08.01rob`it's not too bad if you aoe tank it
08:08.17CIA-2203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50221 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
08:08.17CIA-22TankPoints:
08:08.17CIA-22- Elemental effective health
08:08.27cncfanaticsxyo,I tanked sv in greens
08:08.28xyusv isn't too hard, i should be ok.
08:08.33xyuhehe ok
08:08.40rob`xyu: for defence against level 62, you only need 485 def to be uncrittable, adn honestly?  the odd crit isn't such a bad thing
08:08.56rob`i'm not sure nonheroic SV has anything level 62 though
08:08.57xyuoki
08:09.01xyu72?
08:09.02rob`isn't it all level 60 in nonheroics?
08:09.05rob`er
08:09.09rob`argh
08:09.17rob`replace all my sixes with sevens kthx
08:09.17CIA-2203aliset * r50222 10StatFrameLib/StatFrameLib-1.0/StatFrameLib-1.0.lua:
08:09.17CIA-22StatFrameLib:
08:09.17CIA-22- Default Tooltips weren't working exactly right
08:09.30xyui think so,  i'll go give it a shot.  i just tanked Shadowlabs
08:09.35xyuso SV shouldn't be any different
08:09.37CIA-2203ammo * r50223 10Violation/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Violation: toc to the hand
08:09.38xyuif not easier
08:10.02cncfanaticsits easyer
08:10.04rob`yar, the only annoying part is fears from the sirens, often i just let the sirens stay off in the distance and have ranged burn them down first
08:10.08cncfanaticssl is fun, can finish it in 25 mins
08:10.31xyuwe wiped to 2nd boss, my first time tanking, and holy palies first time healing.
08:10.54rob`shadow lab is honestly one of the worst instances for beginner paladin tanks :/
08:11.08rob`the first boss has fears to deal with, and the second boss is - let's face it - a complete bastard
08:11.11rob`after that you're pretty good though
08:11.12xyui had a rought time w/ the constant fears from those legionaires,  
08:11.13xyuno one died
08:11.14cncfanaticshehe indeed
08:11.15xyubut they came close
08:11.21cncfanaticsxyu
08:11.24cncfanaticsBoP breaks fear
08:11.25cncfanaticsso does buble
08:11.29Grumthat was fun before they nrefed heroics
08:11.35rob`I thought you couldn't cast BoP while feared?
08:11.38cncfanaticsGrum, did it in 40 mins heroic back then
08:11.43rob`if you tell people to get into the fear, btw, you'll do much better
08:11.45Grumthose big guys would MS you for 13k :D
08:11.47rob`unless they resist
08:12.02xyuyeah,  that's a good idea rob
08:12.02cncfanaticsu can cast BoP while <insert something here> as long as BoP removes <same thing here>
08:12.12rob`interesting
08:12.19cncfanaticsI found that BoP on one mob, bubble on the next one and trinket on the third and I was fine
08:12.22rob`the only time i've used bop for fear is on nightbane
08:12.27Grumrob`: if you have a priest, have only shadow-protection cast on the tank
08:12.29rob`but i used it preemptibvely
08:12.35rob`grum: I like that!
08:12.37cncfanaticsit breaks it too
08:12.50Grumit helps a bit :)
08:13.02rob`that's awesome, bop is going to be a more-used part of my toolkit
08:13.04rob`hooray
08:13.07Grumcncfanatics: 40mins for heroic SV ? :(
08:13.12Grumerm SL
08:13.19cncfanaticsyea
08:13.21cncfanaticsthat rocked
08:13.26Grumthat was pre-nerf ?
08:13.26cncfanaticsno breaks the whole run, full aoe tanking
08:13.30cncfanaticsyea it was
08:13.31Grumpre SSC-attunement removal?
08:13.36cncfanaticsyea :)
08:13.43Grumwth?
08:13.44cncfanaticsepic'd out tank + 3 mages + epic'd out healer
08:13.51cncfanaticswe aoe'd the whole place to oblivion
08:13.52rob`awesome :)
08:14.09rob`I still have yet to give heroic SH a try.. no motivation since they removed attunement
08:14.09cncfanaticswe do it in 30 post-nerf now, but well, I don't play my pal anymore
08:14.11Grumthose packs of 6 + assassin will kill anything in 3 blows
08:14.14CIA-2203adirelle * r50224 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (16 files in 5 dirs):
08:14.14CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
08:14.14CIA-22- mages : added Fire and Frost Wards,
08:14.14CIA-22- druids : added Nature's Grasp,
08:14.14CIA-22- warlocks : ignore Soul Link if there is not pet around.
08:14.19rob`I've heard that heroic SH is aoe tankable
08:14.26rob`it sounds like fun.
08:14.37Grumcncfanatics: you must have been *really* epiced out
08:14.39cncfanaticsGrum, I survive about 4 sec on those without heals, healer was spamming something and it kept me alive :p
08:14.47cncfanaticss/survive/survived/
08:14.55cncfanaticsand we had 3 sheeps too for emergencies remember
08:14.58rob`heheh, i love that, "it's the healer's problem, not mine"
08:15.15cncfanaticsI already have a big enough problem outaggro'ing
08:15.21cncfanaticsoutaggro'ing 3 aoe'ing mages
08:15.22Grumwell i did do a SH run with a 75% epic warrior
08:15.49Grumand tanking 5 of those mobs in the .. man whats it called .. passed the gauntlet
08:15.56Grumthose big groups
08:16.03cncfanaticslol the gauntlet
08:16.04cncfanaticsas a pala
08:16.08Grumhehe
08:16.10cncfanaticsI just go till the end
08:16.11Grum*run* .. AOE
08:16.13rob`"run to the end and consecrate"
08:16.14cncfanaticswhile everyone follows me
08:16.18cncfanaticsya
08:16.19cncfanaticsso fun
08:16.21Grumyeah
08:16.23cncfanaticsall first timers go wtf ?
08:16.27Grumdid some normal-speed runs
08:16.29rob`i found that using blessing of freedom helps too
08:16.37Grumyeah you get stunned a bit
08:16.37rob`there's a couple snares in that tunnel
08:16.38cncfanaticsya
08:16.38xyui do that w/ warrior tanks :P   (pally healer)    not on heroic though
08:16.46Grumerm hamstringed even
08:16.49cncfanaticsxyu, I do it on heroic too :) postnerf
08:16.50rob`that's it
08:17.08Grumi dont do instances anymore :o
08:17.15Grumboring ass shit :|
08:17.34rob`our guild is working on magtheridon but I haven't touched a five-man in a month :)
08:17.51rob`since getting my @#$% devilshark cape in fact
08:17.57rob`hate. sv.
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08:18.32xyuI JUST got trial status w/ 3rd best guild on server.  /happy.  
08:19.23rob`wow.  What role do they have you up for?
08:19.26rob`tank?
08:19.32xyuno, my mage is my main ^^
08:19.36rob`ah :D
08:20.05rob`mages are fun, I have a frost mage alt for farming and raid fillins if we're desperate for dps :)
08:20.06xyubut he's nothing special either, compared to their mages.  i'm in all prepraid stuff.
08:20.18xyu!c us sargeras xyu
08:20.21ThraeBotxyu: Xyu, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/0/61). 6533 HP; 7826 Mana; 156 mana regen; 182 spell crit; 131 spell hit; 843 +spell dmg/heal; 133 frost dmg (976); 4.94% dodge; 40 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1347 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/242997 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wbwe6 ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 04:35:28 2007 EST ]]
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08:20.38rob`843 +dmg is pretty good, if that's unbuffed.
08:20.44rob`respectable pre-raid.
08:20.47xyuwell frost
08:20.49Grumit's 976
08:20.52xyuis 976
08:20.54xyui'm full frost
08:21.00rob`oh beh i can read
08:21.01rob`really
08:21.04rob`it's 1 am
08:21.10Grumits not!
08:21.16xyumy crit is horrid though.
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08:21.33xyui can max 165 hit and only lose a few frost dmg which is nice for raid
08:21.38CIA-2203hegarol * r50225 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua:
08:21.38CIA-22AtlasLoot_RepFactions:
08:21.38CIA-22- Scale of the Sand recipe added
08:22.16rob`hm, you don't see full frost very often.  What do you think of it?
08:22.19xyuall i need on my mage pre-raid would be blessings card deck.   yum
08:22.40CIA-2203hegarol * r50226 10AtlasLoot/Core/ButtonRegistry.lua:
08:22.40CIA-22AtlasLoot:
08:22.40CIA-22- Scale of the Sands code change
08:22.40xyuFor 5 mans there's no better imo
08:22.43rob`I went mostly frost but scraped out points for clearcast and -threat to arcane :)
08:22.49rob`i agree
08:23.04xyubut for raid there's just nothing i can do to compete w/ arcane or deep fire imo.
08:23.38CIA-2203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50227 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
08:23.38CIA-22StatFrameLib:
08:23.38CIA-22- Uncomment EHB (it doesn't work, but it's there)
08:23.39CIA-22- Add explanation text to tooltip
08:23.43rob`*nod* oh, if i ever got my hands on 2 pieces of t5, arcane would be veeeery tempting.
08:23.43CIA-2203ammo * r50228 10LockSmith/LockSmith.toc: LockSmith: toc to the hand
08:24.18Xinhuani'm arcane ;p
08:24.20CIA-2203ammo * r50229 10CrowBar/CrowBar.toc: CrowBar: toc to the hand
08:25.20Grumpriest 2piece t5 bonus is imba
08:25.32Grumholly ofc ^^
08:25.58rob`prot paladin 2 pc t5 bonus is .. more damage to ret aura.  .. yaaay?
08:25.58Grumlol ammo :D
08:26.07Grumfree aggro?
08:26.15Grumthe 4p t4 was good right?
08:26.16rob`a bit, yeah.  Nice for AOE.
08:26.45rob`I went for imp retribution aura, and more on top of that would be cool, not complaining about that.
08:26.51rob`it's just a bit lackluster.
08:26.59cncfanaticsu use devotion most of the time in raids
08:27.01rob`yeah
08:27.02cncfanaticsworthless imo
08:27.35xyui was going to ask that, which aura to run
08:27.37xyuas tankadin
08:27.51rob`it depends really
08:27.54xyudo i ever use Blessing of sanct in 5 mans?
08:28.05rob`I use ret by default, EXCEPT when the fight is really melee-heavy
08:28.12rob`yeah, all the time :)
08:28.16cncfanaticsI use ret on trash devo on most bosses
08:28.18cncfanatics16k armor <3
08:28.19rob`just think of it as like 40 block value
08:28.27xyuoki
08:28.47rob`sanctuary is also great for aoe grinding
08:29.14CIA-2203ammo * r50230 10Necronomicon2/Necronomicon2.toc: Necronomicon2: toc to the hand
08:29.21cncfanaticssanctuary from the friendly ret pally and retri from me
08:29.28cncfanaticsthats pure win and noone ever overaggro'ing me
08:29.45rob`sanctity aura is pure orgasm.  *nod.*
08:29.56Grumanyone know a better/neater/faster way to do this: http://ace.pastey.net/74559 ?
08:30.21mikmacncfanatics: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383126/quotes :D
08:30.28theoddone33!vs us alleria mchottie us alleria suvaril
08:30.30xyunooo someone bought my darkmoon blessings deck ><
08:30.33ThraeBottheoddone33: Mchottie vs Suvaril! Two 70 paladins square off!; Suvaril wins by 153 TBRs!
08:30.38theoddone33wow
08:30.44cncfanatics!c eu khadgar evolve
08:30.45ThraeBotcncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 13147 HP; 4428 Mana; 81 mana regen; 16127 Armour; 596 AP; 88.100 Melee DPS; 5.65% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 245 +spell dmg/heal; 287 defense; 19.32% dodge; 20.91% block; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 768 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bl7uf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36eekt ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 04:06:06 2007 EST ]]
08:30.45cncfanaticsbeat meh
08:30.46theoddone33that's odd, I outgear him in every relevant healing stat
08:31.22rob`xyu: if you can, get the Furies deck.  It's borderline overpowered for prot paladins.
08:31.24Grum!c eu doomhammer jacobian
08:31.26ThraeBotGrum: Jacobian, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/45/16). 12177 HP; 6333 Mana; 93 mana regen; 2 mp5; 16373 Armour; 74.600 Melee DPS; 4.48% melee crit; 21 spell crit; 358 +spell dmg; 382 +heal; 319 defense; 18.20% dodge; 19.53% block; 21 resilience;[[ TBR: 1114 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cbwua ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw4fm ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 04:46:34 2007 EST ]]
08:31.44rob`51 stamina, and the proc counts toward our holy threat.
08:31.46xyuhmm i have ace of furies and eight.  
08:31.48xyuthat's it :/
08:31.59theoddone33yeah that's a nice trinket
08:32.08Grumcncfanatics: humz you have way more hp
08:32.23xyui seriously never see cards drop anymore. i can't remember the last time i saw one.
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08:32.27xyuand if it does, it's always elementals
08:32.29cncfanaticsGrum, my hp <3
08:32.32xyuwhich go for like 10g on this server
08:32.39cncfanatics) rob` check my trinket
08:32.43theoddone33elementals is a terrible deck :(
08:32.47xyuyeah it is
08:33.00Grumare the card random drop?
08:33.03theoddone33it was kinda bad at 60
08:33.17xyusemi-random.  i think aces only come from boss kills
08:33.26rob`cnc: <3
08:33.37rob`!c us kilrogg Reiyuka
08:33.39ThraeBotrob`: Reiyuka, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/44/17). 13217 HP; 5418 Mana; 89 mana regen; 16739 Armour; 85.100 Melee DPS; 4.65% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 15 spell hit; 300 +spell dmg/heal; 302 defense; 19.16% dodge; 21.79% block; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 964 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2x6qal ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sggfk ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 04:48:47 2007 EST ]]
08:33.48rob`very similar stats
08:34.05xyu!vs us kilrogg Reiyuka us sargeras Ixyul
08:34.08ThraeBotxyu: Reiyuka vs Ixyul! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/44/17 vs 41/20/0; Ixyul wins by 35 TBRs!
08:34.11xyurawr
08:34.19cncfanaticsrob, my hp beats urs
08:34.22cncfanaticstotaly :p
08:34.28xyu35 TBRs close fight!
08:34.48rob`pff
08:34.55theoddone33I wonder if prot paladin would beat holy paladin in TBRs
08:35.01theoddone33probably because of +dmg
08:35.08xyu!c us sargeras Ixyul
08:35.09ThraeBotxyu: Ixyul, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (41/20/0). 9597 HP; 10263 Mana; 237 mana regen; 122 mp5; 16000 Armour; 73.600 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 139 spell crit; 192 +spell dmg; 1673 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block; 175 resilience;[[ TBR: 999 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24q58k ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3x2sdj ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 04:49:16 2007 EST ]]
08:35.10theoddone33though in real life it'd be a fight that probably never ends
08:35.12xyui wonder if it's still holy
08:35.12xyuyeah
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08:35.27theoddone33!c us alleria mchottie
08:35.28ThraeBottheoddone33: Mchottie, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (41/20/0). 9047 HP; 9063 Mana; 168 mana regen; 82 mp5; 12030 Armour; 77.900 Melee DPS; 4.09% melee crit; 104 spell crit; 178 +spell dmg; 1349 +heal; 4.09% dodge; 5.00% block; 142 resilience;[[ TBR: 836 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26kb6k ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yuybj ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 04:45:38 2007 EST ]]
08:36.01theoddone33still gearing up
08:36.07rob`I had a duel with my gf; she's a resto druid
08:36.09theoddone33although pve upgrades are few and far between
08:36.09xyumy healing gear is pretty decent
08:36.11rob`it just .. didn't end
08:36.27theoddone33at 60 I watched ret paladin duel holy priest for over half an hour
08:36.34theoddone33until the holy priest got sick of it
08:36.40rob`hah, no doubt eh
08:36.52theoddone33I hear mage/paladin can go on forever in arena too
08:36.58theoddone33saw a screenshot of a 5 hour 2v2
08:37.11rob`epic
08:37.20theoddone33their partners died in the first couple minutes then the mage and paladin just went at it for 5 hours until one of them DC'd
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08:37.34theoddone33for like 16 rating
08:37.44smoke_does anyone know how i turn on my party frames in pitbull when im in a raid?
08:38.07xyuthat was a bad mage then :P
08:38.20xyupallies are pretty easy w/ a well placed counterspell
08:38.31theoddone33just keep freedom up and kite around a pole
08:38.37xyuyeah true
08:38.48xyuspellsteal tho
08:38.52theoddone33mages can't do much damage on a freedomed target unless they stand still
08:38.55xyupally will only have 1 buff
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08:39.22xyui dont think i've ever stolen a seal before.
08:39.23Gngsksmoke_, party -> 'other' options -> show frames in raid
08:39.39theoddone33that'd be kind of funny
08:39.43theoddone33does it steal the last applied buff?
08:39.50xyufrom my experience it's random
08:39.52theoddone33can just keep RD up after freedom
08:39.54theoddone33oh
08:40.01smoke_is it even possible?
08:40.08smoke_hmm k
08:40.14smoke_im looking cant find that in that rock config bullshit
08:40.41xyudepends on the mages spec.  if i was fire i'd wait for my mana to be up.  sheep pally, and unload.  
08:40.53xyuif he bubbles.   run away until your pom pyro is back :D
08:40.54theoddone33shield every 5 minutes
08:40.58theoddone33yeah
08:41.25theoddone33most mages in arena seem to be frost now though
08:41.26xyucan't deny a good faked heal though
08:41.28xyupwns mages
08:41.33theoddone33oh man
08:41.38theoddone33that's the most fun I have in the game right now
08:41.42theoddone33well, right after mining
08:41.49theoddone33juking a counterspell with a faked heal
08:42.11rob`I'm really looking forward to the 15% speed boost in retribution next patch.  I'll have just enough poitns to cram that in :)
08:42.24rob`that'll help chase down people ^^
08:42.34theoddone33hmmm? buffing pursuit of justice?
08:42.35rob`"run away until your pom pyro is back" indeed.
08:42.38rob`yep!  15%!
08:42.43theoddone33that's hax
08:42.48rob`AND they're adding 3% spell miss to it
08:42.50theoddone33and not really necessary
08:42.50xyuwow it is
08:43.00rob`rogues are getting the same thing i believe
08:43.04theoddone33ooh
08:43.15theoddone33fleet footed
08:43.22rob`so PoJ is going to be one of your mandatory talents post-2.3
08:43.27rob`for prot
08:43.34rob`wtb prot talents in prot, pst
08:43.37theoddone33I'd maybe drop extra poison buffs for fleet footed
08:43.49theoddone33not sure how it's a prot talent, the spell miss?
08:44.01rob`yeah, 3% might be worth the points.
08:44.04rob`I'd have to do the math :P
08:44.17theoddone33hm I should check out these patch notes
08:44.26rob`worldofraids has a good summary of blue posts.
08:44.38rob`they're adding other neat stuff too - auction times are going up
08:44.44rob`fishing book for minimap detection
08:44.47theoddone33fleet footed for rogues was nice but even with the snare resist it wasn't worth picking up :(
08:45.05theoddone33at 15% it might be ... good, especially with paladins running around at that speed
08:45.14rob`yeah, rogues have enough trouble with paladins as it is
08:45.14theoddone33auction times going up?
08:45.27rob`yeah, from 4/8/24 to 12/24/48 i believe
08:45.33theoddone33ack
08:45.41theoddone33I guess that's not bad
08:45.49rob`i THINK the deposit is staying the same
08:45.56theoddone33I already am not a fan of what they've done to it though
08:45.57rob`they're adding a nice UI option for auctioneer scans too
08:46.04rob`a function call that just gets ALL AH data
08:46.30rob`the broom mount is going in too!
08:46.35rob`drop off a halloween boss
08:46.37rob`in SM
08:46.41theoddone33heh
08:46.46theoddone33heroic SM I hope
08:46.49rob`hee hee
08:46.58rob`level 70 boss you summon in the graveyard :)
08:47.15theoddone33that'd be awesome, back to the days of accidentally pulling half the chapel and wiping
08:47.41rob`you know what's fun
08:47.45rob`going into cath
08:47.48theoddone33aoeing it?
08:47.52rob`pulling the boss without killing any trash
08:47.53rob`yep!
08:48.05theoddone33did you see the gnomeregan video?
08:48.30rob`no, did someone manage to pull most/all of the place?
08:48.33theoddone3370 paladin pulled the entire instance and killed them all with one AOE
08:48.37rob`I tried but it's too damn big :(
08:48.37theoddone33well
08:48.42theoddone33one aoe fight
08:48.53theoddone33he used a lot of tricks
08:49.02rob`I got bored after about 20 minutes of running around
08:49.11theoddone33http://youtube.com/watch?v=UXO9TyU2P9Q
08:49.13cncfanaticsmeh, if I do that half the mobs are dead by the time i'm at the end
08:49.16theoddone33worth a watch
08:49.18cncfanaticstrinket + retri aura + holy shield
08:49.29theoddone33if only for the novelty
08:49.35cncfanaticsand santuary :)
08:50.23CIA-2203nevcairiel * r50231 10Bartender3/ActionBarStates.lua: Bartender3: potential fix for druids below lvl 40 ( with normal bear form )
08:50.39rob`I wonder if it'd be worth picking up like a thousand ungoro crystals on the auction house and keeping yourself in the crystal thorns things
08:50.46rob`I wonder how high they stack
08:50.56rob`they don't stack with druid thorns but maybe for grinding
08:51.40rob`the gnomeregan video is indeed pretty slick ^^
08:52.07nevcairiel`-FISKER_Q\: fix your name
08:52.08cncfanaticsfisker, stop attacking ppl :p
08:52.24cncfanaticsnevcairiel, little layout question for you, would u mind helping me for a sec ?
08:53.04cncfanaticsI'm making a /fb line command, to make buttons align with eachother, how would that be handled if both number of columns and number of rows are specified ?
08:53.46nevcairielyou just do it? i dont understand the question, really
08:54.06cncfanaticswell, what would you do, say you have a random amount of buttons
08:54.13cncfanaticsyou have to align them into 3 rows and 4 columns
08:54.28nevcairielthat limits you to 12 buttons, and not a random amoutn :)
08:54.32cncfanaticswhat would u do with the leftover buttons, just ignore them I supose ?
08:54.48Fisker-no u nevcairiel
08:54.50nevcairielif someone specifys both, he pretty much limits the amount
08:55.15cncfanaticstrue, so lets just ignore any leftover butons if they specified too much of them
08:55.30cncfanaticsthanks nev :)
08:58.14Mecdemortok if I do dewdrop:Open(frame, otherFrame), then it will open the dropdown registered to otherFrame at frame, right?
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08:59.40Mecdemortooo apparently so, well that saves a lot of code
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09:03.42CIA-2203kaybe * r50232 10Klappa/ (KlappaButton.lua KlappaPopUp.lua):
09:03.42CIA-22Klappa:
09:03.42CIA-22-code optimizations (thx Adirelle)
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09:22.39xyuwow doing SV w/ 2 rogues who insist on sapping
09:22.47xyuis tough
09:22.47xyuas a pally tank
09:23.00xyui have to body pull and they just take aggro right away
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09:26.31cncfanaticsjust use ur shield throw :p
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09:29.54orionshockmorning all
09:30.26cncfanaticsmorning
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09:31.11xyu~morning
09:31.11purlGood morning!
09:32.01Arcaia~!!!
09:32.01purlit has been said that !!! is BANG BANG BANG at http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/Group_X_video.html
09:32.25cncfanaticsporn on purl ? :o
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09:39.01EllipsisI called her on the phone and she touched herself, she touched herself, she touuuuched herself!
09:39.12EllipsisI called her on the phone and she touched herself, I laughed myself to sleep...
09:39.27nevcairieldo you ever sleep?
09:39.34Ellipsissleep is for the weak
09:39.57Kody-sleep is for the people that don't want to die at 32!
09:39.59Kuja^whats sleep?
09:40.01Kody-luckily i don't get any sleep
09:40.51EllipsisKody-, you sound emo
09:40.52Ellipsis~emo
09:40.53purl/wrists
09:41.00Fisker-no u nevcairiel
09:41.11nevcairielno u thomas larsen
09:41.29Kody-no i've just had a lot to drink :)
09:41.31Fisker-no u, u has my name
09:41.33Ellipsisoh snap
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09:43.34hanzzonhiya, working on replacing my CT_Mods, going good sofar. tried BulkMail2, was fine except there are no "Open All" in the inbox page... any other Ace mod have this? And also is there something similar too CT_BuffMod?
09:43.45CIA-2203nevcairiel 07Alpha * r50233 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua:
09:43.45CIA-22Ace3 - AceDB-3.0
09:43.45CIA-22- some inline comments
09:43.49EllipsisBulkMail2Inbox does the open all button
09:43.57Ellipsisyou probably want that to go along with BulkMail2
09:44.04Ellipsiswhoa Fisker-, whoa
09:44.08Fisker-:(
09:44.16Ellipsishanzzon: you can try ElkBuffBars for the buff mod too
09:44.19hanzzonEllipsis; haha, thnx!
09:44.32hanzzoncan't understand how I missed _that_ one :P
09:44.45Ellipsishehe, it happens
09:44.51Fisker-EBBs sucks ;(
09:44.59Ellipsisno u
09:45.01nevcairieli use default blizzy buff buttons
09:45.06Fisker-nice
09:45.09Fisker-can't login
09:45.10Ellipsiswith the icky texture and all?
09:45.14Fisker-"Unable to connect to realmlist server" :(
09:45.19Fisker-oh there it was
09:45.20EllipsisFisker-: OWNED :D
09:45.37Ellipsiswhoa hey
09:45.43Ellipsisthere's a very large TV in our kitchen
09:45.47Ellipsisthat wasn't there before
09:45.48Ellipsiswho did that
09:45.52kebinusanI have not really found a buff bar mod I like more than EBB
09:46.01Fisker-buffalo2
09:46.05Fisker-just annoying with the buff bug
09:46.32ZealotOnAStickI like original Buffalo myself.
09:46.37ThelynaI just use blizz buff buttons, with a little mod to change the text from "2 h" to "1:58"
09:46.39Thelynaetc.
09:46.47nevcairieloh yeah i have that too
09:46.50nevcairielthe text change
09:46.52Ellipsisif Buffalo2 worked properly, it would be my dream buff mod
09:47.10Thelynaif I can't recognise a buff I have by icon alone, that's a bad thing
09:47.15Ellipsisin the meantime, I switch between EBB and Buffalo based on whether I'm looking for functionality or a better fit with my layout >_>
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09:52.07Ellipsisanyone know of any addons that *just* hide lots of Blizz stuff?
09:52.27Ellipsislike, the entire bottom bar and the minimap, specifically?
09:59.18hanzzoncan't find buffalo2, it's been discontinued completely?
10:00.22Ellipsisno, it's been moved to branches because it's broken
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10:00.37hanzzonokies
10:00.56cncfanaticsw000tage :p
10:00.59cncfanaticsnearly done lalala
10:01.04EllipsisBuffalo/Buffalo2 don't do buff bars though
10:01.09Ellipsiscncfanatics: with what?
10:01.25cryogenbars take up too much space
10:01.28cncfanaticsEllipsis, the first flexbar2 release candidate
10:01.29cryogenas shiney as they are
10:01.42hanzzoncncfanatics; yea, notieced. think I prefer CT_BuffMod as it is now. will have a look at Buffalo2 if it gets fixed someday
10:02.01Ellipsiscncfanatics: have my babies?
10:02.06cncfanaticsEllipsis, lol
10:02.09cncfanaticsits gonna own really
10:02.12Ellipsistell me it can do popup bars
10:02.17cncfanaticsnot yet
10:02.20Ellipsishanzzon: EBB!
10:02.26cncfanaticsworking on that after i'm done messing with profiles
10:02.31cncfanaticsnow u can change profiles on the fly, that rocks
10:02.41hanzzonEllipsis; tried it, didn't like it as much as the CT thing :(
10:02.43Ellipsisok, that's great and all, but you can't have my babies until it does popup bars
10:02.48Ellipsishanzzon: why not?
10:02.49cncfanaticsEllipsis, sure :p
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10:03.06cncfanaticsI'm doing positioning stuff atm, after that its popups
10:03.06JCinDE<PROTECTED>
10:03.08Olisoncan errormonster block the errorsounds from spells? not the errorspeech but the "shoosh"-like sounds... :>
10:03.08hanzzonEllipsis; kinda more intrusive, plus it's rock config was not complete
10:03.13JCinDElol oops
10:03.24vhaarrOlison: no
10:03.27EllipsisJCinDE fail't
10:03.34Olisonvhaarr: do you know of a addon that can do this?
10:03.38vhaarrOlison: you need to replace the sounds in the pak files manually, which is a violation of the TOS
10:03.40Ellipsisyou can replace the sound files
10:03.40cryogenebb cant be scaled
10:03.44cryogenor i cant find the option
10:03.48Olisoneww :(
10:03.50Ellipsiseverything can be scaled
10:04.04Ellipsiscryogen: settings->bars->width/etc.
10:04.13Gnarfoz<Ellipsis> anyone know of any addons that *just* hide lots of Blizz stuff? <-- tell me if you find something like that - I'm looking for something that hides the blizzard partyframes :<
10:04.15cryogenwidth isnt what i have a problem with
10:04.19cryogeni want to rescale the whole thing
10:04.35Ellipsiscryogen: you can change the other stuff too, there's just no global scale for it
10:04.42Ellipsisheight is determined by icon size I think
10:04.43cryogenthen that sucks
10:04.48Ellipsisfont size is set by font
10:04.49ZealotOnAStickMight give Morganti's BuffBars a try.
10:04.51Ellipsisno it doesn't
10:04.55Fisker-btw anyone else having trouble with xloot?
10:04.56ZealotOnAStickNot Ace2, but a damn site better than CT
10:05.07Fisker-my loot window is abnormally big
10:05.09Ellipsisbetter we be able to configure things individually than have to deal with the proportions that are set for us
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10:06.19kandarzwhats a good diff program for windows?
10:06.41hastewinmerge?
10:06.44cryogen'diff'
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10:07.20Ellipsisbelf pally named Lorebreaker
10:07.21Ellipsiswin.
10:07.45hastecryogen: most windows users tend to want a gui :p
10:08.08Ellipsismost windows users suck
10:08.15kandarzmeh, I could careless about a gui, just need something to tell me where I added shit to a file
10:08.24kandarzbut I won't complain if there's a gui
10:08.25cryogen'diff' it is
10:08.47cryogenthere are several windows ports around
10:08.50Ellipsisand a tauren shaman named Bittaurent
10:08.54Ellipsis~facepalm
10:08.54purlACTION facepalms at the situation
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10:09.27Ackisallo everyone
10:09.34ZealotOnAStickWinMerge or ExamDiff Pro
10:10.01Ellipsis~seen ckknight
10:10.04purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 8m 27s) #norganna (1h 8m 27s) #wowace (1h 8m 27s), last said: 'Grum: share what?'.
10:10.12Ellipsiso.O
10:10.34Ackislol stalking 101? :P
10:10.39cryogen~botmail purl you suck
10:10.53Ellipsisstalking?
10:10.57EllipsisI don't have to stalk ckknight
10:11.01hanzzonZealotOnAStick; thnx for Morganti's BuffBars recommendation, looks great (and isn't CT mod, wee)
10:11.03Ackislol
10:11.13Ellipsishe leaves his curtains open when he touches himself at night *just for me*
10:11.16Fisker-http://i20.tinypic.com/2ijma2u.jpg
10:11.22Fisker-someone know why it's happening
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10:11.41Ellipsisbecause you use XLoot
10:11.43Ellipsis=]
10:12.10AckisEllipsis, does that mean ck has been afk for an hour?
10:12.22Ellipsisif I knew that, would I have been asking the bot in the first place? :P
10:12.30Fisker-no u Ellipsis
10:12.34cryogenew another person with large portaits
10:12.39Ackislol
10:12.58Ellipsisactually I don't Fisker- thx
10:13.04Ackisi'm so sleep deprived i found a "bug" in a library :P more so a type heheh
10:13.07Ackiserr typo
10:15.17ArcaiaFisker- :: move the loot window
10:15.20Arcaiait fixes it
10:15.27Ellipsisaww they made that guy in the Aldor bank unattackable =[
10:16.11Corganhow do you delete the item in that's "picked up"
10:16.13Corganer, an*
10:16.27ThelynaEllipsis: good change in my opinion
10:16.39Ellipsisbut he was fun
10:16.51Thelynawhat they should've done is given him archimonde's finger of death attack
10:17.00Thelynaor maybe I'm just excessively violent
10:17.04Ellipsisyou are
10:17.15Ellipsisit was fun to make everyone in the bank go "WTF?!?!"
10:17.31Thelynaactually after the third time it was "sigh, retard scryers at it again"
10:17.33Corgannobody?
10:18.33GnarfozCorgan: www.wowwiki.com?
10:18.34Gnarfoz:>
10:18.44Gnarfozhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_DeleteCursorItem
10:18.48Corganmm
10:18.50Corgan<3
10:18.56Thelynadamn, I'm too slow
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10:18.59CorganI thought someone might know offhand
10:20.06ThelynaI'm bored .. anyone got any half-decent webgames?
10:20.13Grumwow
10:20.17EllipsisMOTAS
10:20.20mortonslaught
10:20.21Arcaia>.>
10:20.32Corgan<_<
10:20.58EllipsisI think I'm gonna go play through that again instead of trying to figure out why my minimap is green
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10:22.43Fisker-How can halo have been going from being the shittiest game out there to beating sales records?
10:22.45Fisker-Seriously
10:22.47Fisker-makes no sense
10:23.02ThelynaEllipsis: link?
10:23.08Fisker-Did Microsoft use all their money on mind control tech?
10:23.13GnarfozFisker-: I've been wondering that, too
10:23.14hanzzonyou mean it no longer is the shittiest game?
10:23.24wodenconsole fps ftl
10:23.24Gnarfozactually, he didn't say that
10:23.27Arcaiastormstrike crit/crit - earthshock - crit - lightning shield
10:23.27SoleHalo = most overrated game series in history
10:23.29Gnarfozjust that it's beating sales records
10:23.30ArcaiaWTF.
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10:23.33baer_moin.
10:23.41ArcaiaWhy does bliz have to hate on rogues these days by means of shamans ;P
10:23.43Gnarfozmoin
10:23.48ArcaiaHalo is Epic.
10:23.53Solerogues are gettin love
10:23.55ArcaiaIt's a FPS with a story
10:23.56Soleso are shamans tho
10:23.57ArcaiaThat is decent
10:23.58Solegood with I got both
10:24.01Arcaiamost FPS = no story
10:24.05Soleso?
10:24.09SoleI play FPS for pvp
10:24.18SoleI'll go play an RPG if I want story
10:24.20ArcaiaFPS for "pvp" rofl.
10:24.28Fisker-There was like no good storyline in Halo 1
10:24.30Soleand console FPS blow
10:24.32Fisker-not when i played
10:24.38Fisker-and it played like cra
10:24.39ArcaiaHave you played Halo3?
10:24.39Fisker-crap
10:24.41Fisker-no
10:24.43Arcaiaor Halo1?
10:24.47Fisker-Halo 1
10:24.51GnarfozArcaia: that's what it's called... player vs. player. Counter Strike is "pvp", Quake is "pvp" :p
10:24.52SoleFisker is right, Halo 1 storyline was average at best
10:24.53ArcaiaHalo 2 didnt count
10:25.08SoleI didnt like Halo 1 enough to bother with 2
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10:25.15Arcaiatrust me, I've played CS professionaly, never once EVER did I hear it called PVP
10:25.20Fisker-yeah that's kinda my point
10:25.27Solecongrats
10:25.29Soleyoure an eceleb
10:25.30Fisker-how can they sell halo 2, or even 3 with that in mind?
10:25.34Solepvp = player vs player
10:25.44Soleapplies for all games which contain a PLAYER VERSUS FUCKING PLAYER mode
10:25.46GnarfozArcaia: I don't trust you, but when players play against other players (instead of against computer controlled enemies)... it's PVP.
10:25.50Saladin<PROTECTED>
10:25.52Saladinsecond even
10:25.53Saladinpvp is pvp
10:26.01Arcaiayou are all idiots.
10:26.02ArcaiaI win.
10:26.05GnarfozNO U.
10:26.07Saladin8(
10:26.11Solesorry we dont fit in with your pro standards =\
10:26.24Solecanada > usa
10:26.33Arcaiadon't bring nationality into anything
10:26.38ArcaiaDamn Canucks.
10:26.39Gnarfozgermany < canada
10:26.42Saladinamerifags
10:26.51Gnarfoz:\
10:26.56Solehahaha I love saying that
10:27.05SoleIm not even closely related to either country
10:27.17Soleyou guys are no fun though :(
10:27.23Solethe other channel started fighting
10:28.54ArcaiaStormstrike Earthshock Windfury [2 crits]
10:28.55ArcaiaWTF Bliz.
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10:29.19ArcaiaI beat shaman like friggin critters untill today.
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10:31.27Solelol its ench shaman
10:31.31Soleevasion :P
10:31.35Soleno stromstrike
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10:32.18Arcaiabecause your logic is flawless mr. canadian.
10:32.29Ellipsisew, did someone say canadian
10:32.33Ellipsisthought I smelled something
10:32.34Arcaiaas if I can do that every 15 seconds in a battleground
10:32.38ArcaiaI'd love to, trust me.
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10:34.12Mecdemortweird, when commiting via the root theres no cia-22 message?
10:34.35Fisker-no you just killed svn
10:34.39lordgreghi everyone. i'm having problems with XLootGroup. since it wasn't updated anymore after 2.2 patch, i decided to uninstall it and XLoot with it. now, when in group, i cannot see greed/need window at all. it doesn't show at all :$
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10:35.11Arcaiamine isnt having a problem
10:35.25xyuwhat's the best pally tanking Libram?
10:35.32lordgregyour XLootGroup is working after 2.2 patch? how, if it wasn't updatet for more than 3'0 days
10:35.33xyu(pre-raid)
10:35.38Arcaiaone that makes you do more damage
10:35.53xyuI'm looking for something more specific
10:35.57sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: i see you did some things to omen/threat-1.0? :X
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10:36.23cncfanaticsxyu, heroic badge one
10:36.24Arcaiahttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=27917 -- isnt bad
10:36.32Mecdemorthmm
10:36.33cncfanaticslibram of repetance
10:36.35cncfanaticsget that one
10:36.37xyuoki
10:36.53cncfanaticshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29388 xyu
10:36.57cncfanaticsu'll need it to get uncrushable anyway
10:37.01xyui just happen to have a bunch of badges on me :D
10:37.11Arcaiahttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29388 yea
10:37.14Arcaiathat one isnt bad either
10:37.26Arcaiait comes down to what you want to do
10:37.42Arcaiado you want to keep threat easier? or stay alive easier ;P
10:38.53Mecdemortis cia-22 dead?
10:38.54Arcaiathe block one is nice if you are willing to go the distance ;P
10:38.57ArcaiaYe
10:38.59Arcaias
10:39.26xyuIs enchant gloves threat worth it?  
10:39.33xyufrom sha'tar
10:40.46JCinDEgah! what happened to my chat edit box?
10:40.46m4rku5Mecdemort, its prob. just lagging as always
10:40.56silentiumdo you have problems holding aggro? (you shouldn't) otherwise I'd say get a stamina enchant
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10:41.06xyuoki
10:41.10JCinDEsomebody's made a mess in Prat imo
10:41.18xyui haven't done enough instances to know if i have prob holding aggro
10:41.29xyuonly 2 so far, 1 i did just fine.  the 2nd i was w/ 2 rogues and a dps warrior
10:41.30xyuandi t was hard
10:41.48NickenyfikenDamn 2.2 is really fucked up :-/
10:43.24lordgregso any suggestions about xlootgroup that screwed my original group loot window?
10:43.41sbyay, SGA
10:43.51silentiumI've read a lot pallies say the threat from http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29185 with 40 spell damage enchant is enough for them
10:43.53sbFisker-: WITH sfx :p
10:44.18xyuyeah silentium: that's what i have
10:44.21xyuwell i have horrid dreams
10:44.23xyubut same thing
10:44.35xyui just dont have all tanking gear yet :P
10:44.39xyui'm still wearing healing lol
10:44.57xyufirst day prot.  thought i had a complete set, turns out i'm missing cloak, boots, bracers
10:45.12buuZOMG
10:45.16xyujust bought sha'tar shield though,  do i just fill that up w/ solid stars too?
10:45.23silentiumI'm holy most times too :) just managed to get some prot drops that nobody else wanted, and specced prot for half a week when we had no raids
10:45.45silentiumbut I've tanked as holy with my prot gear before too (non heroics ofc), and it went surprisingly well
10:45.56xyuyeah same
10:45.59xyui keep trying to holy shock
10:46.01xyuto hold threat
10:46.05xyuforget i dont have it anymore
10:46.13silentiumhehe
10:46.36Arcaiaxyu - Heal yourself with Righteous Fury on
10:46.58Arcaiaxyu - I've seen holy/prot paladins do quite well just spam healing themselves, not actually attacking anything
10:47.18xyuyep.  i wasnt' a bad tank as holy at all
10:47.19silentiumI have prot items for all slot except a second ring now, and 3.6% away from uncrushable - only 9k health unbuffed tho, because I still use def gems
10:47.26xyui do want to MT some kara tho :D
10:47.52Arcaiamost good pally tanks dont have alot of stamina
10:47.54Arcaiasadly
10:47.59Arcaiaits part of the itemization problems
10:49.50Arcaiahahaha i just killed a MS warrior
10:50.03xyunothing new there ~_^
10:50.14Arcaiahe was mounted with full health, by the time he realized I wasnt gonna let him ride past, he was at 15% health
10:50.17Arcaia<-- rogue
10:50.51xyuHey now, rogues can cheeeze MS wars if they so choose to.   they do it all the time in 2v2 rated matches.    Load war up with dots, gouge and run away
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10:50.53xyustealth
10:50.56xyucome back do it again
10:50.59xyurun away
10:51.01xyurince repeat
10:51.02xyuso annoying
10:51.10Arcaiagouge + dots dont work
10:51.15Arcaiadots break gouge
10:51.16xyumaybe not gouge
10:51.25xyunever played a rogue, but they stun lock him apply dots
10:51.29xyuand run
10:51.48Arcaiahard to run when they have intercept a god forbid charge ;P
10:52.38xyunah, in arena its easy
10:52.39xyujust LoS
10:52.43xyucan't charge/ intercept
10:52.46xyubut yeah in world pvp
10:52.48xyumuch harder
10:53.41Arcaiain AV ;P
10:53.52Arcaiawith paladins and shaman
10:54.00Arcaiaat their side every goddamn waking moment
10:54.25cncfanaticsassassinate them ? :p
10:54.32cncfanaticsganking squad of 4 stealthers > healers
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10:55.03Arcaiaimpossible to coordinate in Alliance AV
10:55.21xyuyesss
10:55.23cncfanaticsi'm horde :)
10:55.23xyui wish i had a 70 rogue
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10:55.26xyujust for that reason
10:55.30xyui'd love to go on a gank squad
10:55.37cncfanaticsi'm leveling one :)
10:55.38xyuand let the hilarity ensue
10:55.39Arcaiaganking is letarded
10:55.45cncfanaticsdepends
10:55.50cncfanaticsganking squad to gank all healers
10:55.55cncfanaticsthen the main raid can just gank all the poor dps
10:55.57xyuganking gnomes > *
10:56.01cncfanaticscalled tactic
10:56.17xyu4 stealthed rogues can take an entire base in AV
10:56.22xyuwhile the zerg is still at icewing
10:56.30hanzzonhiya again, yet on my quest to rid my system of CT addons, CT_Core, it has a nice thing for typing comments for people on your friends list, looked through files.wowace.com for anything with "chat" but didn't seem to find anything that does it? (Prat can't do it right?)
10:56.48cncfanaticsEllipsis, I'm totaly done coding except for popup buttons now
10:57.29xyuhanzzon: like only you can see these comments right?
10:57.53hanzzonxyu; yes, only on this installation... (shared with all other chars I have of course)
10:58.24xyuThere was an ace2 addon similar but not exactly, it let you comment on any player anywhere.  horde / alliance.  but it was just like a tooltip note.  
10:58.31Fisker-cncfanatics
10:58.32Fisker-today
10:58.35Fisker-you are going to die
10:58.45xyuI forget the name though, so i'm not much help, and that doesnt' sound much like what you're looking for anyway ^_^
10:58.46Arcaiaooh.. goody!
10:58.54cncfanaticsFisker-, I am ? :o
10:58.54xyuPlayerRatings i think
10:59.02Fisker-yes
10:59.07Fisker-because i'm going to kill you
10:59.13cncfanaticsu do that at least once a day
10:59.14Fisker-but don't tell yourself i told you that
10:59.18hanzzonxyu; no, I just want it for the friends list... so many alts and stuff people have, gets very confusing for me poor brain otherwise :P
11:00.03cncfanaticseh, how do u get the revision number in ur addon again ?
11:00.10cncfanaticsis it $Revision ?
11:00.35Gnarfoz$Revision$ and you have to enable the corresponding svn magic
11:00.39hanzzon(this thing was called CT_PlayerNotes before but got integrated in CT_Core)
11:00.58Arcaiawtf is !Scrooge ?
11:01.06cncfanaticsGnarfoz, that being ?
11:01.15Gnarfozcncfanatics: dunno :D check in your svn client ;)
11:01.31cncfanaticsits enabled by default if I remember well :unsure:
11:01.41hanzzonokay, anyway, I also thought I saw an option in Atlas to disable the icon for the worldmap (on the minimap) but was that in cartographer maybe)
11:02.05xyuhanzzon there's one called
11:02.07Gnarfozhanzzon: cartographer can disable the blizzard worldmap button
11:02.11xyu"playernotes"
11:02.12xyutry that
11:02.14Gnarfozatlas can only disable it's own minimap butto
11:02.15Gnarfozn
11:02.17xyuit's ace2
11:02.29hanzzonxyu; thnx, will try
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11:05.27MoonWitchhey guys, I got a little question. Does KC_Items run at 2MB for you as well, while you're NOT in the AH or haven't been?
11:05.53sag_ich_nichtMoonWitch static memory usage does not matter lern2addons
11:06.10CIA-2203nalumis * r50236 10BigBrother/localization_deDE.lua:
11:06.10CIA-22BigBrother:
11:06.10CIA-22- deDE localization fix
11:06.10CIA-2203mecdemort * r50237 10IconDoIt/IconDoIt.lua: IconDoIt: Adjusted disabled button's color levels.
11:06.32MoonWitchno the reason I am asking, it never did that before, now it does, and I can't seem to think of why that would be
11:06.57MoonWitchprior to last night/today, it never did show up on my mem usage list (I only have the top 20 showing)
11:07.06MoonWitchtop 15 now lol
11:07.27MoonWitchthat's why I am asking, and uhm it's learn .. learn2spell :P
11:08.46MoonWitchalrighty then thanks for taking the few seconds to read it
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11:09.22hanzzonxyu; thnx, it's almost what I want. I need to rightclick their name now and choose "note" to see what I wrote, b4 I could just hover the mouse over. but this will do, thnx!
11:11.24orionshockNOOO... fking mod broke :(
11:12.27EllipsisMoonWitch: you have a mystery mod too? yay, I'm not alone!
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11:14.28cncfanaticslalalalalalala, i'm so happy, cuz today I found my friends, in my head :p
11:14.45cncfanaticsa cookie for who tells me what song that is
11:14.54MoonWitchcncfanatics, as long as they don't tell you to kill people, have fun :)
11:15.00MoonWitch(torture is ok though)
11:15.05cncfanaticsoh come on, what song is that
11:15.23cncfanaticsLithium by Nirvana, no cooking for anyone
11:15.30cncfanaticss/cooking/cookie/
11:15.42m4rku5lol :D
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11:16.15MoonWitchEllipsis, check your dialogue ;)
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11:16.40Ellipsisno u
11:16.43Ellipsis(I already replied)
11:16.54Codayuscncfanatics: Hmm, i recognized it.  But I was browsing webcomics instead of looking at the channel.  :-(
11:17.00MoonWitchEllipsis,  lol
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11:17.21orionshockim still looking for a coder to make me my addon :P 50$ USD
11:17.29cncfanaticsorionshock, what addon ?
11:17.45orionshockone that fking picks up my dailys AND turns them in...
11:17.48orionshock>.>
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11:18.05orionshockim trying to make one myself.. but i can't seem to get it to turn shit in :\
11:18.12cncfanaticscheck automaton ?
11:18.16orionshockya
11:18.21orionshocknot going to work
11:18.25cncfanaticsif I tell you the API command, do I get 50$ usd too ?
11:18.37orionshockno
11:18.57orionshockmake it, make it work ... and after i test it.. then you get your paypal cheque
11:19.06weabif i add a module to automaton will you paypal me $50
11:19.10orionshock*check
11:19.25cncfanaticsheh, thats what I would do too weab
11:19.51Ellipsisorionshock: if I do it, will you route my $50 directly to ckknight as a donation in my name? :P
11:20.00orionshocksure
11:20.05Ellipsis(I keep wanting to donate but I don't have paypal or a credit card)
11:20.11orionshockslacker
11:22.17EllipsisI'm not a slacker...just broke ^-^
11:22.17MoonWitchwelcome to that club :P
11:22.17weab$50 is really too much money though. i'd feel bad taking more than $15 or so
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11:22.41orionshockthe CompleteQuest() isn;t working for me :(
11:22.46cncfanaticsEllipsis, how much do you want popup buttons ?
11:22.46cncfanaticswondering wether its worth putting them up or not with autobar around that does everything u'd ever need popups for
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11:23.01EllipsisI don't use AutoBar because I use my inventory for items in my inventory
11:23.03orionshocksob
11:23.05orionshock<PROTECTED>
11:23.12orionshockgives me a table referance >.
11:23.17orionshock>.-
11:23.21Eggicnc: autobar does not work everytime when you are in combat
11:23.23EllipsisI told you cncfanatics - I'll let you have my babies
11:23.51EllipsisI could use Klappa, but then I'd have to run it in addition to my regular action bar addon...
11:23.53Ellipsisand that just sucks :(
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11:24.29Ellipsiscncfanatics: here's an example of something it's useful for that AutoBar doesn't do
11:24.57EllipsisI'm a warlock and I want all 4 (or 5 if FG spec) of my pet summons on a bar that pops up when I mouseover the one button
11:25.19Ellipsisand each of these is a macro so that I can right click for a Fel Domination summon
11:25.29Ellipsisso AutoBar really can't do it =[
11:26.34CIA-2203jayhawk * r50238 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/SkillsPlusFu.lua:
11:26.34CIA-22FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
11:26.34CIA-22- fixed Blood Elf problem, removed Babble-Race lib
11:26.45cncfanaticsEllipsis, I see
11:26.53cncfanaticsone little thing, macro support in FB will be poor till 2.3
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11:27.10weaborionshock: i've been meaning to do an automaton update anyway. I'll see how much work adding something like what you're looking for would be when i do, this weekend hopefully.
11:27.36cncfanaticsEllipsis, thing is, popup buttons are a pain :)
11:27.36orionshockive almost got it tbh
11:27.36Ellipsiscncfanatics: poor how? >_>
11:28.03cncfanaticsEllipsis, no cooldown numbers, no fancy casting highlights, etc
11:28.07cncfanaticsthey work when clicked, thats it :p
11:28.10Ellipsislike I care about that
11:28.15EllipsisI want my UI functional, shiny comes later
11:28.17Ellipsis:P
11:28.19cncfanatics:)
11:28.25cncfanaticswell, I'm considering popups atm
11:28.32Ellipsis<3
11:28.41Ellipsishave I mentioned you're my favorite person ever?
11:28.46Eggifb2 can already hide buttons and only show them when you mouse over them?
11:29.01cncfanaticsEggi, not atm
11:29.15weaborionshock: <shrug>. i've had requests for an accept quests function type thing, and automaton already has the code for handing in so... doubt it'll be much trouble anyway.
11:29.39orionshockif i can just get the F'n function to work..
11:29.41Eggiyou only have to add the text to automaton imho
11:30.09cncfanaticsEllipsis, its a pain though, not entirely sure if its worth it, and I wonder how I'll make it configurable
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11:30.31EllipsisI know it's a pain
11:30.37EllipsisI tried it myself...rather unsuccessfully tbh
11:30.41orionshockeggi - i don't think so
11:30.44hanzzonwee, found something much better than PlayerNotes; AuldLangSyne, it's exactly what I need and more =)
11:30.52Ellipsisgrats hanzzon :)
11:30.57orionshockand TBH the way automation does the quest shit is freekey
11:31.11hanzzonthnx :P
11:31.19cncfanaticsEllipsis, combining target remaps with shapeshifts already was a pain
11:31.21weabi'm quite happy with it.
11:31.29cncfanaticscombining it with a third will make it even worse
11:31.43EllipsisI see your point
11:31.57cncfanaticsif you want freaky code orionshock, check attributes.lua
11:32.04cncfanaticsmy state managing code is just ...
11:32.25orionshocklook i allready want to shoot one person in the head, don't make me wana add people...
11:32.35cncfanaticsorionshock, please check it, its fun :p
11:32.35Ellipsiscncfanatics: just remember you have my eternal love and many babies to look forward to if/when you get it working :P
11:32.45cncfanaticslol Ellipsis
11:32.46cncfanaticslet me think
11:33.00orionshockfk events are firing too fast :\
11:33.03orionshockgdi
11:33.30cncfanaticson a side note, my state managing code is only 60 lines
11:33.32cncfanaticsnot all that all too bad
11:33.40Solehmm
11:33.44Solefury is frustrating to play
11:33.46orionshockok question:
11:33.56Solefucking noobs who dont understand how to play fuck everything up
11:33.58orionshockhow do you get wow to dump the OnClick Script for a button?
11:33.59SoleOMGOMG I ZERG
11:34.16cncfanaticsorionshock, dump it ? as in dump code ? u can't
11:34.23EllipsisI zerged your mom last night, Sole
11:34.25orionshockas in to the chat frame
11:34.33cncfanaticsu can't dump the function's code anywhere
11:34.35Ellipsisorionshock: you can't actually see the Lua that's being run in the script
11:34.39orionshocki can get it to dump a table referance... but that's toataly worthless
11:34.40Ellipsisjust a pointer to the function
11:34.48SoleEllipsis: was that before or after you slept with me?
11:34.55cncfanaticsorionshock, thats the best u'll get, the reference
11:35.04orionshockoh how nice ..
11:35.06EllipsisSole: in between the two times I think
11:35.23Ellipsisorionshock: why do you  need it anyway?
11:35.26orionshockso i guess  CompeteQuest() isn't the API to actualy complete the quest
11:35.28orionshock>.>
11:35.30SoleEllipsis: you dirty tramp
11:35.39Ellipsisif you really want to know what's hooking it, look through your addons (or FrameXML) and find out
11:36.08EllipsisSole: well what else do I do during downtime?
11:36.19weaborionshock: use GetQuestReward(0)
11:36.24SoleEllipsis: trudat
11:36.44orionshockwell fuck me
11:36.47orionshockit worked
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11:36.53cncfanatics:o
11:37.05Ellipsisok orionshock
11:37.07Ellipsiswhere/when?
11:37.18orionshocklol
11:37.22weabslut
11:37.27Ellipsisyou know you like it
11:37.45Arcaiaelkbuffbars fail
11:37.47Arcaia>.>
11:37.53Ellipsisno u!
11:37.59orionshockEllipsis: asl?
11:38.15Ellipsisorionshock: 18/f/CA
11:38.29Ellipsisdammit I did it again
11:38.29orionshockwell that's about right for me :D
11:38.33SoleEllipsis: still waiting on those promised naked pics
11:38.40SoleEllipsis: you cant be an e-whore until you go nude on the internet
11:38.42EllipsisI always try to come up with fake asl's when people ask, to be funny
11:38.48Sole12/f/filipino
11:38.53Ellipsisbut I keep giving my real one without realizing it's my real one =[
11:38.55weabSole: look forward to the hairy overweight 40 year old man!
11:38.59Gngskthat's what I'm talkin' about sole!
11:39.07Solelol@nerd response
11:39.08EllipsisSole: I am an e-whore. You just don't know where to look. ;)
11:39.11Solekek
11:39.14orionshockok so did you lie to me or was that the truth?
11:39.19SoleEllipsis: so Grum finally finished?
11:39.22Ellipsisit is the truth orionshock
11:39.29Ellipsishaha Sole
11:39.31Ellipsishe wishes
11:39.46Solehaha
11:40.04orionshockEllipsis: 21/m/AZ
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11:40.29orionshockCA .. AZ they're close ... :D
11:40.41Arcaia20/m/urGF'sHouse
11:40.47Arcaia<- engaged.
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11:40.51orionshocklol
11:40.56Solewhich room?
11:41.07weabengaged to my gf?
11:41.09weabthat bitch.
11:41.13ArcaiaROFL!
11:41.16Arcaiano no
11:41.27Soleengaged...as in busy
11:41.36Arcaia!vs us shattered hand arcaia shattered hand sakakii
11:41.45ArcaiaThraeBot fails.
11:41.50m4rku5lal
11:42.27Arcaia!c us shattered hand sakakii
11:42.30ThraeBotArcaia: Sakakii, Level 70 Human Paladin (40/21/0). 6307 HP; 8988 Mana; 160 mana regen; 54 mp5; 11248 Armour; 79.100 Melee DPS; 3.93% melee crit; 101 spell crit; 219 +spell dmg; 1082 +heal; 41 defense; 4.41% dodge; 5.68% block;[[ TBR: 1124 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27jjku ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32t9pt ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 07:57:39 2007 EST ]]
11:42.36Arcaia!c us shattered hand arcaia
11:42.40ThraeBotArcaia: Arcaia, Level 70 Human Rogue (15/41/5). 8794 HP; 1464 AP; 343.800 Melee DPS; 27.11% melee crit; 160 melee hit; 26.82% dodge; 29 resilience;[[ TBR: 1594 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24ynam ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wbdfl ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 07:57:49 2007 EST ]]
11:42.51ArcaiaSakakii = Fiancee, Arcaia = Me ;D
11:43.26weabwhy were you cheating on your fiancee with my gf
11:43.27weabthat's even worse.
11:43.33Fisker-i r winrar
11:44.08Ellipsisorionshock: where in AZ? not that I'm stalking you or anything
11:44.15Ellipsis;)
11:44.18orionshockphx
11:44.20Arcaiaiunno, is Your GF hot like mine?
11:44.22Ellipsisaww
11:44.34orionshockwhy?
11:44.46Ellipsisjust wondering, I have friends in AZ ^-^
11:45.04weabphoenix must be too far to go to get boned
11:45.06orionshockwhere?
11:45.13Ellipsisweab: nothing is too far
11:45.31Ellipsisorionshock: actually, I do have a friend who lives in Chandler, so that's not too far off XD
11:45.44weabi guess, if you're desperate
11:45.53orionshockat least it's not in Snotsdale
11:46.04orionshock*Scottsdale
11:46.19Ellipsishah
11:46.32Ellipsisweab, do you really think I need to be desperate? XD
11:46.39Ellipsisthat's the guy's job...I'm a geek girl
11:46.45EllipsisI just sit here and be smart and look cute
11:47.07weabi don't really know anything about you. i'm just an asshole
11:47.10Arcaia<-- needs pics or it didnt happen
11:47.29orionshockArcaia: lol
11:47.49Ellipsisweab: I totally couldn't tell ;D
11:48.01weabwell it's not like i try to hide it.
11:48.19m4rku5<Ellipsis> weab: nothing is too far << how bout good old Europe ? ;)
11:48.49Ellipsisit's been known to cross my mind
11:49.38EllipsisI have dated guys from pretty much every corner of the world tbh
11:49.53Ellipsisalthough I didn't travel to see them (couldn't really, living at home) some traveled to see me ^-^
11:49.56Arcaiayouve dated Canadians
11:49.58Arcaiaewwww.....
11:49.59Ellipsisgod no
11:50.02Ellipsisnever
11:50.05Arcaiasaved.
11:50.13m4rku5u dated a china gold farmer ? ;)
11:50.13Ellipsiswell ok there was that once...but I was young! I didn't know any better!
11:50.28Ellipsism4rku5: Korean, but not a gold farmer? :P
11:50.31SoleEllipsis: have you dated a ukrainian?
11:50.33m4rku5:P
11:50.34weabuh. you don't get much younger than 18
11:50.36ChompersWhat's wrong with canadians? eh?
11:50.49weabhow the hell have you 'dated' all over the world at 18 anyway
11:51.06weabnew guy every week?
11:51.10orionshockaww... ehntooltip don't work with links :(
11:51.25m4rku5Ellipsis, why couldnt you because ure living at home ;) waht about travelling ;)
11:52.00Ellipsisweab: um...most of my relationships are 6mo-2yr
11:52.10Arcaiam4rku5: why would you question the poor female's honesty?
11:52.10Ellipsism4rku5: my parents didn't exactly want me traveling alone
11:53.01weabso you've had like three relationships? or did you start dating in kindergarten?
11:53.05cncfanaticsEllipsis, I won't do popup buttons yet
11:53.08cncfanaticstoo ahrd to combine
11:53.13Ellipsiskk
11:53.21Ellipsisweab: I've had...erm...I don't think I want to count
11:53.52Ellipsisat the moment I'm going on one year living with my current bf
11:54.06Soleso you ran away at 17?
11:54.08Ellipsisbefore that I was with a guy for about 3 years
11:54.10m4rku5weab, i guess she doenst start a relationship with everyone she dates :P
11:54.11Ellipsisyes Sole
11:54.14Ellipsiswell, just before my 18th
11:54.15Solehmm
11:54.17m4rku5like dating 50 guys and then picking the one with the most money ;)
11:54.19Ellipsislike, a matter of days before
11:54.27Ellipsism4rku5: quite the oppositee
11:54.32EllipsisI don't "date" casually
11:54.40EllipsisI flirt, but if I start a relationship with someone it's a relationship
11:54.51Soleyeah but you do fuck casually
11:54.52weabwell she used it as a rebuttal to my new guy every week question
11:54.58m4rku5Arcaia, umm because im bored right now
11:55.09Chompersi'm confused, does 'date' mean 'fuck' ? why not just say fuck?
11:55.11EllipsisSole: um, no
11:55.22SoleEllipsis: burst my bubble some more pls
11:55.25Ellipsisdate means go to a movie with or something
11:55.26weabdate certainly does not mean fuck
11:55.34EllipsisI'm not a slut irl (as much as I may be online)
11:56.16Ellipsisand tbh I've never really been on a date
11:56.24Ellipsisnobody has asked me out :/
11:56.30m4rku5whys that ?
11:56.41m4rku5because these guys dont like girls that play WoW ?
11:56.53weabanyway. no offense intended or whatever. as i said i'm an ass, and cranky because it's well past my bedtime.
11:57.41Arcaiaits 8 am...
11:58.03m4rku5Ellipsis, arent u playin a warlock ? ;)
11:58.10Ellipsisshush you
11:58.21EllipsisI logged over to my bf's priest to rez Arcaia!
11:58.22m4rku5<< priest :P
11:58.38m4rku5(i just dropped shadowform for you Arcaia ! feel honored lol)
11:59.39ArcaiaI just got ressed twice
11:59.42Arcaianow theres two of me.
11:59.43Ellipsisaccept mine!
11:59.45Ellipsis>_>
11:59.45Arcaia<--winz
12:00.06Arcaia-Release Spirit-
12:00.11m4rku5well if tehres two of you Arcaia
12:00.19m4rku5Ill take one of em as my personal gold farmer
12:00.42Ellipsisni hao~
12:00.43Arcaiaif i got payed 7$ an hour, id farm gold.
12:00.44m4rku5other one can be Ellipsis' slave lol :D
12:00.51Ellipsispfft, screw that
12:00.54Punkie`$7 an hour?
12:00.58EllipsisI expect at least $10/hr to play WoW
12:00.59Ellipsis!
12:01.22m4rku5Arcaia, lol University pays me more for helping em on a project than that :D
12:01.36m4rku5and thats for work that actually makes fun
12:01.43Punkie`i get more than $7 for going to the toilet at work
12:02.25Arcaiawell im a fulltime college student
12:02.33Arcaiaand have 0 time for jobs
12:02.38Arcaiaso, any money, is nice.
12:03.09Ellipsispfft, fulltime college students do have time for jobs
12:03.10Ellipsisslacker
12:03.18m4rku5Arcaia, ill pay you 2.50$/hr for leading our raid :o
12:03.32m4rku5Arcaia, im studying computer science and i got enoguh time :P
12:04.20CodayusDepends on course load, major, and gpa...
12:04.47cncfanaticsand on the student ;)
12:04.53Arcaiageography.
12:05.05Arcaiathats an end all to my time statement
12:05.16m4rku5hrm
12:05.17CodayusSpec engineering...er...  pick engineering as a major, take 18 credits or so, aim for a 4.0 gpa, and get to around your junior or senior year...
12:05.36CodayusOh, and live > 60 minutes off campus.  That's good too.
12:06.06m4rku5Arcaia, as said Id pay you some $s for leading our raid (well only if u do it fine) and u'll get some 50$ extra if we kill kael next Id :P
12:06.38cncfanaticsleading raids is fun tbh
12:06.55ArcaiaHow geared is your guild?
12:07.14m4rku5Arcaia, well were doing Kael for the 5th week now or so
12:07.25m4rku5we have pretty much anything you can get out of SSC/TK
12:07.41m4rku5its just always some random ppl dieing
12:07.41orionshockim so happy :D
12:07.47Arcaiawhat's causing you problems on kael?
12:07.58m4rku5its not the same its always random people
12:08.00m4rku5that really sucks
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12:08.21orionshockweab thanks for that API , it works now :D
12:08.23CIA-2203swayenvoy * r50239 10aUF_CC/ (. Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua aUF_CC.lua aUF_CC.toc):
12:08.23CIA-22aUF_CC: initial commit
12:08.23CIA-22- This add on displays a timer bar over your focus unit frame for your crowd control capability's.
12:08.23CIA-22- This version displays this timer for the mage's polymorph spell.
12:08.23CIA-22- Tested with the deDE version but should also work with enUS version of the game.
12:08.43m4rku5we had some problems @ BC start because our raid leader that leaded from BWL to naxxramas quit WoW
12:08.43Arcaiahow many paladin's you have?
12:08.50m4rku5usually 3 in raid
12:08.51orionshockbut im not gona give you 50$
12:09.17Ellipsis=[
12:09.35m4rku5Arcaia, we had him to 38% last Id
12:09.46m4rku5this Id we had bugged alar etc
12:09.49CIA-2203anxarces * r50240 10FuBar_ProfessionsFu/ (FuBar_ProfessionsFu.toc README.txt):
12:09.49CIA-22FuBar_ProfessionsFu:
12:09.49CIA-22- Updated toc to version 2.2.0
12:09.51m4rku5so were doin our next trys tomorrow
12:10.00m4rku5but now that the weapons are bugged too lol
12:10.10m4rku5guess we wont make much progress this Id
12:11.36Arcaiathe weapons are bugged?
12:12.03m4rku5We looked into this, and found a new bug. Any of the enchanted weapons that are alive at the point when Prince Kael'thas resurrects his advisors will immediately have their health increased.
12:12.03m4rku5We currently cannot hotfix this issue, but we hope to resolve the problem relatively soon.
12:12.16m4rku5:<
12:13.02CodayusThey really managed to break an impressive amount of stuff.
12:13.05m4rku5realtively soon means have fun at killing kael next year -.-
12:13.26cncfanaticsheh
12:13.34CodayusWe just got crunched by Lurker, of all things, because *HE'S* bugged.
12:13.39CodayusAnd Geysering the MT.
12:13.43Arcaiait probably was an intended hotfix
12:13.52m4rku5damn I just want that damn hyjal attunement -.-
12:13.56Arcaiagnowing bliz
12:14.05Ellipsisouch
12:14.24CodayusEven Lurker can be exciting when he can randomly toss your MT and start one shotting rogues.  >>
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12:14.31Ellipsisnote to self: when walking around in the dark without letting your eyes adjust, try and remember the locations of any TVs that have recently spontaneously appeared
12:14.32orionshockya blizz don't care bout raiders no more
12:14.52Codayusorionshock: I'm sure they care.  This is just their way of showing it.  :-)
12:15.21Ellipsiswell what do you think rogues are for Codayus
12:15.23orionshockya well if they fubar'ed a pvp element that bad, there'd be a working and fully functional hot fix with in hours
12:15.26mortget the weapons down before his advisors respawn - easy fix ;)
12:15.42Arcaiathis is true rogues are supposed to get 1-shotted
12:15.45Arcaiathats how we roll.
12:15.53Ellipsisthat's because PvPers are whiny little kids who ruin Blizz's fun
12:15.55CodayusWell, yeah, but we kinda were relying on rogues to kill the adds...  :-(
12:16.08Ellipsisand raiders are mature intelligent people  who are used to getting shafted anyway
12:16.36Arcaiarogues most nerfed class since betas.
12:16.50CodayusLesse, to my knowledge, Al'ar, Lurker, Kael, and Illidan got broken in 2.2.  I heard Solarian had some buggy behaviour, but since they redid the fight, I'm not sure that counts.
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12:16.59CIA-2203cncfanatics 07Rock * r50241 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/ (23 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:16.59CIA-22FlexBar2:
12:16.59CIA-22Core.lua:
12:16.59CIA-22<PROTECTED>
12:16.59CIA-22<PROTECTED>
12:17.00CodayusAnd I'm pretty sure VR is slightly different, but I can't prove it.
12:17.01CIA-22Slashcommands.lua
12:17.03CIA-22<PROTECTED>
12:17.33orionshockOO.lua?
12:17.36orionshockOOOOOO
12:17.38EllipsisQQ.lua imo
12:17.42cncfanatic1Object Oriented ;)
12:17.50CodayusBut it SEEMED like Orbs were more frequent and/or moving faster and/or targeted differently.  And if so, that means they kinda broke every boss in TK.  Good job.
12:17.55mortthank god that we are in bt/mh and nowhere near illidan ;)
12:18.00cncfanatic1either way, check my full essay in wowace-cia
12:18.29ArcaiaI think they were all planned fixes
12:18.37EllipsisCodayus: Ony deep breaths more, watch out
12:18.43CodayusActuallyu.
12:18.44cncfanatic1meh, my nick
12:18.56Codayus"I went with a 5 man group to kill her just for cash, and she did some seriously buggy shit in Phase 1.
12:18.59CodayusAs in, once we entered combat with her, she just ran around. She didnt attack anyone really, hell she wasnt even targetting anyone. She just jogged around the lair several times, then went and stood in a whelp cave. After about 30 seconds of "WTF" from everyone, we nuked her till she took flight. Upon entering Phase 2, the encounter behaved normally and the kill went without any further oddities."
12:19.01Arcaiaghost the other one
12:19.06Fisker-megatron... err cncfanatics you survived
12:19.07Fisker-but how?
12:19.15EllipsisCodayus: except the more frequent deep breaths, right? =]
12:19.17cncfanaticsFisker-, whatever
12:19.18CodayusApparently they broke Ony too.  :D
12:20.19Arcaiaafking in Bgs is still possible
12:20.27Arcaiaget SOME numbers on the board
12:20.30Arcaiaand then afk
12:20.33Arcaianoone notices
12:21.18Fisker-fine cncfanatics be that way :(
12:21.22cncfanaticsFisker- :p
12:21.29cncfanaticsbusy merging svn repos
12:21.34Fisker-:P
12:21.38Arcaiayes i afk in av, but only occasionally... ive done 30 legit ones tonight, whats 2-3 semi-afk ones
12:22.06cncfanaticsanyone feel like writing documentation for it ? :p
12:22.19Arcaiamoney involved?
12:22.21Ellipsisnot it!
12:22.28swayenvoyHello all
12:22.36CIA-2203celellach * r50242 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua:
12:22.36CIA-22AtlasLoot_RepFactions:
12:22.36CIA-22- fixed ItemIds
12:22.38Fisker-i will get some ill-deserved sleep
12:22.38swayenvoyI got a tiny Question
12:22.44CIA-2203celellach * r50243 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/WorldPvP.en.lua:
12:22.44CIA-22AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
12:22.44CIA-22- Small reorder
12:22.45Fisker-err well-deserved!
12:22.47cncfanaticsArcaia, depends on the quality of the docs u make ? :p
12:22.48Ellipsis~asktoask
12:22.49purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
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12:23.27Arcaiawhat if i make EPIC docs
12:23.34cncfanaticshmmm, then u might get a penny
12:23.34Arcaiaas in a purple background with purple text
12:23.45swayenvoyI'm on my way to add Externals to my Addon with svn externals so should I include the entrys to the *.toc file befor commitin to svn
12:23.54CIA-2203celellach * r50244 10AtlasLoot/Core/ButtonRegistry.lua:
12:23.54CIA-22AtlasLoot:
12:23.54CIA-22- Reordered file with sections.
12:24.10CIA-2203jayhawk * r50245 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (4 files):
12:24.10CIA-22FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
12:24.10CIA-22- hacked Alchemy problem
12:24.16cncfanaticseh, svn merge didnt do its stuff correctly ?
12:24.17cncfanaticshell
12:24.40orionshockswayenvoy: don't really matter to be honest
12:25.07swayenvoyok so i don't need entries for all libs in my *.toc
12:25.12orionshockyou do
12:25.22swayenvoyok thanks
12:25.56cncfanaticsoh god, I did a reverse operation, how to undo my last thingy ?
12:26.05sag_ich_nichtbtw.
12:27.25sag_ich_nicht@ALL EU: Gutrot hit's 70 today, 1-70 buttnaked, 10:30 pm server time aerie peak, sen'jin beach(~57,57 durotar), make a lvl 1 troll and come :O
12:27.31orionshockswayenvoy: the sequence is not important but the fact that both are done is
12:28.21orionshocksag_ich_nicht: who the f is gutrot?
12:28.24swayenvoyorionshock: good to know
12:28.45cncfanaticsanyone can help me with svn stuff ? I just fucked up a merge and need to undo it
12:28.57mikma!c eu aerie peak gutrot
12:29.00ThraeBotmikma: Gutrot, Level 69 Troll Warrior (8/41/11). 6429 HP; 682 AP; 8.79% melee crit; 22 melee hit; 5.91% dodge; 5.80% block;[[ TBR: 626 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27dosn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39ptyu ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 08:44:09 2007 EST ]]
12:29.23orionshockok so some random no name ... ok
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12:29.37m4rku5sag_ich_nicht, u played that char to 70 naked all the way ?
12:29.59mikmanow we need to see a miracle of Industrial actually leveling 1-70
12:30.08m4rku5cncfanatics, maybe i can help
12:30.16Gngskmikma, you and I both know that'll never happen
12:30.31mikmaGngsk: can i hear an amen?!?
12:30.39mikma(brother!)
12:30.52sag_ich_nichtm4rku5: not me
12:30.54sag_ich_nichtGutrot!
12:31.10cncfanaticsm4rku5,I basicly need to undo the merge I just did
12:31.18sag_ich_nicht[14:29] <orionshock> ok so some random no name ... ok <--LOL
12:31.27sag_ich_nichtorionshock read EU general
12:31.33sag_ich_nichthe leveled 1-70 NAKED
12:31.42orionshockfuck that, i don't even read US General
12:31.48CIA-2203celellach * r50246 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
12:31.48CIA-22AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
12:31.48CIA-22- Small reorder
12:31.53sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=17702127&sid=1
12:31.54sag_ich_nichtthere
12:31.58sag_ich_nichtlurk the fuck more
12:32.04orionshocklol :D
12:32.14EllipsisI'll lurk in your mom's bed
12:32.21CIA-2203celellach * r50247 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua:
12:32.21CIA-22AtlasLoot:
12:32.21CIA-22- Added a loottable entry for the Hyjal trash loot
12:32.39orionshockyou know there are lottery functions in wow
12:32.40sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: good, she's not at home. i am.
12:32.40CIA-2203kodewulf * r50248 10School/ (17 files in 5 dirs):
12:32.41CIA-22School
12:32.41CIA-22* Initial import
12:32.41sag_ich_nichtpwnt
12:33.14Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: hawt ;D
12:33.17EllipsisI thought you didn't like me? :PP
12:33.25Ellipsiss/:PP/:P/
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12:34.42sag_ich_nichti never said that. i only said i despise your behaviour in here because you try to(and manage to) make the heads of the nerds in here go dizzy. which lowers their coding time. which means I GET WORSE ADDONS.
12:35.01Ellipsisbut sometimes I bribe them
12:35.05Ellipsisand then you get better addons
12:35.05Ellipsis:D
12:35.11Gngskand a lot of us wish you wouldn't say fail so often. we don't always get what we want. :(
12:35.33orionshocknow how to figure out how to write an event handler ....
12:35.49EllipsisGngsk: me?
12:36.05EllipsisI only say fail when people fail...oh, I see your point :P
12:36.16Eggihttp://www.nerdtests.com/ft_nq.php
12:36.35Gngskno, I didn't mean you. but as I go through the log you've actually said it more
12:36.39CIA-2203swayenvoy * r50249 10aUF_CC/ (. aUF_CC.lua aUF_CC.toc):
12:36.39CIA-22aUF_CC:
12:36.39CIA-22- Added externals
12:36.41Gngskheh
12:36.57sag_ich_nichtnerdtest is gay
12:37.02sag_ich_nichtgo take the purity test.
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12:37.18ZiconNaughty ellipsis. We should spank you.
12:38.07sag_ich_nichtsomeone tell me the 2 talent tags for dogtags
12:38.22sag_ich_nicht*dogtag
12:39.00swayenvoyhow to get my addon listed in WAU?
12:39.32sag_ich_nichtswayenvoy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVN
12:39.42sag_ich_nichtswayenvoy http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN
12:39.44sag_ich_nichtread those two.
12:39.47sag_ich_nichtthen come back
12:41.05swayenvoysag_ich_nicht: what had this to do with WowAceUpdater?
12:41.48sag_ich_nichtswayenvoy addons that are on the wowace SVN are listed in WAU
12:42.10*** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@81-229-136-48-o1124.telia.com)
12:42.15Ellipsissag_ich_nicht - [TalentSpec] numbers and [TalentTree] names
12:42.20sag_ich_nichtthanks Ellipsis
12:42.52swayenvoysag_ich_nicht: as you can see above my addon is in the svn but not listed in WAU
12:42.54Ellipsisanytime jer--I mean, friend :)
12:43.19sbwell RockComm Talent stuff integration in Talented is soooo <3
12:44.00sbyou can query the entire talent tree from someone using LibRockComm and have it displayed + save + apply to your talents  :)
12:44.21Ellipsisyeh
12:44.28Ellipsisso you can ninja people's specs
12:44.30EllipsisXD
12:44.33sbyes :p
12:44.52sbor quick-check if they specced xyz
12:44.59Ellipsisthat would be fun to do on PTR
12:45.06Ellipsisconfuse people
12:45.15Ellipsisbe like "hey cool you have the same spec as me!"
12:45.20sblol
12:45.21Ellipsisand they'd be like "der...what?"
12:45.29Ellipsisthen you list all their talents
12:45.33Ellipsisand they're like "wtf hacker"
12:45.34EllipsisXD
12:45.37sbwell most ppl dont run any addons on ptr  :?
12:45.37sb:/
12:45.48Ellipsiswhy not?
12:46.22sbyou have to copy them + WTF + setup them, and if you are lazy and only want to see some new items/stuff - well... :o
12:46.41CIA-2203kodewulf * r50250 10School/ (. Icons/ Libs/ Modules/ Textures/):
12:46.41CIA-22School
12:46.41CIA-22* SVN properties
12:46.41CIA-22<PROTECTED>
12:46.41CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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12:47.15Ellipsisbut that would mean having to play with the default interface
12:47.27sbyup :o
12:47.36Eggiwhy even play there?:p
12:47.52sbtesting new stuff, killing headless horseman ;)
12:48.01Xinhuanwhat's the fastest way to check that a chatlink is valid? (the chatilnk may or may not be in the local cache)
12:48.01sbwtb 2.3 PTR to go to zul aman :)
12:48.14EllipsisXinhuan: valid how
12:48.23Ellipsisan actual item?
12:48.24Xinhuanvalid as in, in a format that is valid
12:48.25Arcaia31% scored higher (more nerdy),
12:48.25Arcaia2% scored the same, and
12:48.25Arcaia67% scored lower (less nerdy).
12:48.25ArcaiaWhat does this mean? Your nerdiness is:
12:48.25ArcaiaLow Ranking Nerd. Definitely a nerd but low on the totem pole of nerds.
12:48.26sbvalid as in not disconnecting you? doesnt work i think
12:48.28Ellipsisoh
12:48.29Arcaiahrm
12:48.33Xinhuanbut not necessarily in the local cache
12:48.43Ellipsischeck that the link is formatted by, uh...checking its format
12:48.43Eggi2.3 will be worth it maybe to 'test' a bit more
12:48.49nevcairielXinhuan: only if the format is valid? not if the item may disconnect you on click?
12:48.50EllipsisI'm confused, what the heck is this for?
12:48.54Xinhuanya nev
12:49.08nevcairielcreate a simple string.match pattern
12:49.09nevcairieli suppose
12:49.12Xinhuanits for sending receiving profile data in wowequip
12:49.17Ellipsisoh
12:49.21Xinhuani am validating received data
12:49.26Ellipsisyeah just do a regex match on it to be sure
12:49.32CIA-2203toadkiller * r50251 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua:
12:49.32CIA-22AutoBar:
12:49.32CIA-22-Fix hunter pet feeding on right click. Thanks jwvanderbeck.
12:49.35Xinhuanhmm
12:49.39Xinhuanregex for chatlink
12:49.48CIA-2203kodewulf * r50252 10School/:
12:49.48CIA-22School
12:49.48CIA-22* SVN properties
12:49.48CIA-22<PROTECTED>
12:49.49Ellipsisgogo wowwiki
12:49.57Xinhuan|cffa335ee|Hitem:28633:2669:0:0:0:0:0:1367515712|h[Staff of Infinite Mysteries]|h|r
12:50.01Xinhuanis an example link
12:50.03Xinhuanso....
12:50.08sbwell... :o
12:50.17cncfanaticswhen does Kaelten usualy log in ?
12:50.18ArcaiaI DE'D THAT.
12:50.23Arcaia<- lies
12:50.26Ellipsis^lies
12:50.39Xinhuanpretty hard to make a regex for it lol!
12:50.47Xinhuanlike making sure the colour code is valid
12:51.19Ellipsiseh...you could do it lazy-like and just make sure it starts with |cff and 6 hex digits
12:51.29Ellipsisor you could check against the item rarity colors, they're in a table somewhere
12:51.35Xinhuanis there a regex for hex digit?
12:51.50Ellipsisthere's a char class I think
12:51.55Ellipsismay not be in WoW's Lua implementation though
12:52.07Ellipsisjust use [0-9a-f]
12:52.21Xinhuanhow do i specify exactly 6 of that?
12:52.29Xinhuan[0-9a-f][0-9a-f][0-9a-f][0-9a-f][0-9a-f][0-9a-f] ?
12:52.30Xinhuanlol
12:52.34Ellipsisamg yuo regex n00bcake
12:52.34nevcairieluse %x
12:52.41CIA-2203sayclub * r50253 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: .TheEye : koKR Update
12:52.48nevcairiel%x is for hex numbers
12:52.51nevcairielshortens the code
12:53.26Ellipsisbut also captures them
12:53.27Ellipsiso.O
12:53.27nevcairielanyway, i dont think lua patterns allow specifying "i want 6 of that"
12:53.30Stanzilla2nevcairiel: bartender bugged me last night ./
12:53.34Ellipsisregex does...
12:53.37sbi googled and found something
12:53.40sbfor itemLink in string.gmatch(args, "(|c%x+|Hitem:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%-?%d+:%-?%d+|h[^|]+|h|r)") do
12:53.40nevcairiellua pattern is not regex
12:53.42Ellipsisassuming WoW has implemented that much of it
12:53.47sblooks pretty good
12:53.47Stanzilla2all the buttons from Bar1 disabppeared
12:53.54Stanzilla2appeared
12:53.55Ellipsisthat's not nearly strict enough sb
12:54.00sbits not?
12:54.02CIA-2203kodewulf * r50254 10School/:
12:54.02CIA-22School
12:54.02CIA-22* SVN properties
12:54.02CIA-22<PROTECTED>
12:54.08Ellipsisthe colors alone
12:54.10Xinhuanhmm
12:54.14Ellipsistransparent chat links? lol gg
12:54.29sbhm so?
12:54.37nevcairielyou cannot validate it 100% with one simple lua pattern
12:54.42nevcairielyou can only check the format
12:54.43Xinhuanthat works i guess
12:54.48sbyeah its okay
12:54.53Ellipsisyou can validate the format much closer than that
12:54.54hastelua doesn't use regexps
12:55.02sbyou have the color as 'match' with that regexp
12:55.10sbso you can check it later
12:55.13m4rku5ah btw
12:55.17m4rku5i finished my nerd test
12:55.17m4rku5What does this mean?  Your nerdiness is:
12:55.18m4rku5High-Level Nerd. You are definitely MIT material, apply now!!!.
12:55.22sb\\1 - you now...
12:55.25sbknow
12:55.30EllipsisI think you lose 20 points for taking so long on it m4rku5
12:55.53m4rku5Ellipsis, i was busy helping cncfanatics with svn merge and reading my guild forum
12:55.54m4rku5;)
12:56.13vhaarrXinhuan: what's that you want to do, you say?
12:56.40Xinhuanjust want to check that a received chatlink is "valid" meaning the format is valid
12:56.50Xinhuanand not that it is available locally in the cache
12:56.53vhaarrby chat link, do you mean an item?
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12:56.56Xinhuanyes
12:56.56sbuse that regexp and check on color later
12:57.07Xinhuan"|c.-|Hitem:.-|h%[.-%]|h|r" saeris lootlink uses that
12:57.11Ellipsisnot sure why you want to do validation in the first place...
12:57.12sbif necessary
12:57.19Ellipsiswow, that's even worse
12:57.26vhaarrXinhuan: .- is _dead_ slow
12:57.30CIA-2203kodewulf * r50255 10School/:
12:57.30CIA-22School
12:57.30CIA-22* SVN properties
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12:57.34vhaarrbetter to use %d
12:57.54Xinhuansb suggested "(|c%x+|Hitem:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%-?%d+:%-?%d+|h[^|]+|h|r)"
12:58.07Ellipsiscouldn't you get away with very basic validation anyway? (i.e. is it a chat link or not)
12:58.13JCinDEah Baggins is much nicer when you create efficient filters. heh
12:58.20Ellipsisbecause the server enforces links being "valid"
12:59.14Ellipsis...just a thought, sheesh
12:59.16silentiumyou even get disconnected if the item name string doesnt match the real item name
12:59.31Ellipsisin most cases
12:59.38Ellipsiswell, in all cases that I know of for items
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12:59.44Ellipsisnot every case for spells (i.e. craft links) thuogh
12:59.57sbwell but its okay if you want to check if some string could be an item
13:00.05sband no 'normal' text
13:00.12vhaarrXinhuan: yeah sb's suggestion is better than what lootlink does
13:00.22Ellipsisit's still not ideal
13:00.26vhaarrgood enough
13:00.36EllipsisI want to know why just "is it a link" isn't enough though
13:00.38silentiumin that case you probably dont need to check if the color hex code matches the real color either
13:00.45Xinhuanthat was saeris lootlink
13:00.49Xinhuantelo's lootlink uses "|c(%x+)|Hitem:(%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:[-]?%d+:[-]?%d+)|h%[(.-)%]|h|r"
13:00.52vhaarrEllipsis: you can easily implement custom links
13:00.59vhaarrXinhuan: lootlinks pattern sucks
13:01.05vhaarrsaeris' one
13:01.09vhaarrtelos is fine
13:01.12Xinhuantelo's one looks better
13:01.15vhaarrit is
13:01.20Ellipsismy question still stands
13:01.24vhaarrsaeris one is dead fucking slow
13:01.26Ellipsisif it's an item link the server validates for you, yes?
13:01.38vhaarrEllipsis: irrelevant
13:01.39Xinhuanwell Ellipsis - i don't want the server validating it ;p
13:01.48Ellipsiserm, why?
13:01.52Ellipsisto both
13:01.57vhaarrEllipsis: even if the link is validated, there's no way Xinhuan can enforce an item link as input
13:02.13vhaarrand even if he could, he still can't post-validate if he logs of and on on a tuesday without the item in his cache
13:02.17Ellipsisthat's why I said he needs to check only to see if it is an iteme link or not
13:02.19silentiumhm, if you receive an item link then you can probably asume it's valid, otherwise the server would have disconnected the sender
13:02.20vhaarrso he needs to do a pattern match
13:02.33silentiumso you only need to check if you got a link at all
13:02.35Xinhuansilentium: not if its sent via SendAddonMessage()
13:02.36sbEllipsis: well if you want to do something with items, eg. save them in some database but dont do that with strings contining no items - thats the way to do it - doesnt matter if item is valid or not.. you dont care. if someone tries to 'exploit' it -> disconnect
13:02.44Ellipsisvhaarr: this isn't for SVs, this is for a comm message
13:02.47silentiumXinhuan: damn
13:02.57vhaarrwhat's the problem here anyway
13:03.03vhaarrXinhuan: just use that pattern and be done with it
13:03.09sbyup :o
13:03.10Xinhuanya i figure so
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13:03.34Xinhuanuse string.match or string.find?
13:03.39Ellipsissb - that's not what he's doing
13:03.49sbi have no idea what he's doing :)
13:04.01EllipsisI know well the problems involved with validating/saving/sending itemlinks
13:04.24EllipsisI've dealt with them in many different forms >_>
13:04.26vhaarrEllipsis: we all know it's impossible to argue with women, so we're not going to, just drop it
13:04.30Ellipsis...
13:04.41sb%-)
13:04.44m4rku5:P
13:04.48Ellipsisnow you've done it, vhaarr :P
13:04.52swayenvoyCan someone tell me how long it will take for my addon to get listed in WowAceUpdater after it was commited to the svn?
13:05.02vhaarrswayenvoy: 20min
13:05.04sag_ich_nicht@ALL EU: Gutrot hit's 70 today, 1-70 buttnaked, 10:30 pm server time aerie peak, sen'jin beach(~57,57 durotar), make a lvl 1 troll and come :O
13:05.05Thelynavhaarr = doomed.
13:05.14Xinhuani am sending/receiving a "profile" containing itemlinks, i'm just adding basic checking that the data that is received is valid, such as table keys and table values are expected type()
13:05.14sbswayenvoy: 0/20/40min
13:05.18Ellipsiswho wants rabbit stew for dinner?
13:05.25swayenvoyvhaarr: thanks for the info
13:05.57EllipsisXinhuan - which is why I think a full validation would be overkill
13:06.09sband impossible :p
13:06.16Ellipsissb: I mean full format validation
13:06.19Xinhuani only need enough validation such that the received link, when passed to GetItemInfo(link), doesn't throw a "invalid link" error
13:06.27Ellipsisoh lulz
13:06.32Ellipsiswhy didn't you just say that was what you wanted
13:07.56EllipsisI'm not sure this is the best idea though Xinhuan
13:08.17Xinhuanyou have a better suggestion?
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13:08.30Ellipsisno matter what you do, person A might have some leet legendary cached and put it on their profile, then anyone receiving that profile would get disconnected
13:08.41Ellipsiswhich could lead to abuse
13:08.52Ellipsisit's not good to code in remote exploits :P
13:08.53Xinhuanno, because i actually use GetItemInfo() to ensure that
13:08.56Xinhuanthat won't happen
13:09.10Ellipsisso you don't force cache anything?
13:09.11Azurielheya, got a question. just installed FuBAR, ACE2. i had omen already, but now it wont show up! is there any workaround for this? Recount seems to have the same problem
13:09.14Xinhuannope
13:09.25EllipsisAzuriel: update
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13:13.50*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. Do not whine if you use a lower version.
13:13.50Azurielno change with fubar disabled
13:13.53sag_ich_nichtwhy the hell
13:14.00sag_ich_nichtwould you make a ace fork of fubar?
13:14.03sag_ich_nichtthat's just stupid
13:14.03cncfanaticshmmm, lol, how are moves that build up combo points called for rogues ? :p
13:14.11cncfanatics(one specific term for all of them)
13:14.22Azurielwell.. i`m gonna reinstall all my addons.
13:14.23Ellipsisuh...is there a term for that?
13:14.30Ellipsisgood idea Azuriel
13:14.34Ellipsisare you not getting any errors or anything?
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13:15.22Stanzilla2sag_ich_nicht: Mikk did it
13:15.34swayenvoycan anyone tell me something about warlock spells?
13:15.39Azurielyeah, but not related to those plugins.
13:15.49Ellipsisswayenvoy - I play a warlock, I might be able to help
13:16.04EllipsisAzuriel: what are the errors?
13:16.15Ellipsisthey may be related even if they don't seem so at first
13:16.40AzurielxxTimer being outdated (didnt even have it installed) and CandyBar2 missing (which was present)
13:16.47sag_ich_nichtmikk youre dumb :(
13:16.52Ellipsisif you don't have it installed it won't throw errors o.O
13:16.57m4rku5sag_ich_nicht, because fubar originall was ace-based
13:17.06m4rku5and some people dont want yet another framework loaded just for fubar
13:17.11sag_ich_nichtwow
13:17.14Ellipsisthe fork is still redundant m4rku5
13:17.16sag_ich_nichtyou don't have a friggin clue abut frameworks
13:17.18Ellipsispeople can use the old revision
13:17.26m4rku5Ellipsis, yeah or can use the tagged rev
13:17.33Ellipsis...
13:17.36Ellipsisthat's what I saaid
13:17.41Ellipsiss/saaid/said/
13:18.01Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: shall I grab the bats?
13:18.12m4rku5sag_ich_nicht, and some people like the way rock's config menu works etc etc well whatever
13:18.16m4rku5im using FuBar 2.0 ;)
13:21.46sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: which bats?
13:23.01orionshockhttp://ace.pastey.net/74567
13:23.14orionshocksugestions, improvements, wtf's ?
13:23.43Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: the cluebats, duh
13:23.50EllipsisI was thinking we could take turns beating m4rku5 up
13:24.07m4rku5hey
13:24.15Ellipsis:D
13:24.23m4rku5i can use whatever version of whatever addon i like
13:24.23m4rku5"."
13:24.45Ellipsisyou can indeed
13:24.55Ellipsisbut you still don't understand the situation so well :P
13:25.07m4rku5then tell me :P
13:25.09Ellipsisorionshock: nothing other than "dailys" being misspelled
13:25.13Ellipsis:P
13:25.18orionshock:D
13:25.20orionshockya ya
13:25.27cryogenorionshock: wtb consitent indenting :p
13:25.36Ellipsis^
13:25.40Ellipsiswith tabs
13:25.45Ellipsisbwahahaha
13:25.47orionshockwell if you un comment the debug lines then it looks ok
13:26.01cryogenOnEnable
13:26.04cryogenis all screwed up
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13:27.00EllipsisI'm a little confused about most of GOSSIP_SHOW() though
13:27.09EllipsisI'm just going to assume it's the API's fault
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13:29.05orionshockEllipsis: because Gossip_Show is a generic event, i have to distinguish between picking up the quest and turning it in
13:30.25Ellipsisright, but the fact that the entire function is written with one API call, repeated/branched several times...
13:31.18orionshock4 actualy
13:31.27orionshockand only repeated twice
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13:33.03orionshockand tbh i don't know a better way of doing it...
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13:35.30Ellipsiswell I was exaggerating with "several", but it still boggles the mind
13:35.38orionshockif i take the debug code out... i can do true/false checks with some of the if statements
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13:37.55Mech0zanyway to get baggings to show my bank content as well or dont it save that info?
13:38.05EllipsisMech0z: Baggins_AnywhereBags
13:38.11Mech0zokay
13:38.14Ellipsisit's only slash commands though, no GUI
13:38.28Mech0zbah
13:38.40Xinhuanorionshock: no
13:38.57Xinhuanall repeatable netherwing quests only give gold and rep
13:39.09orionshocksee with the for i,v in pairs() loops - i could just reference the api instead of a cached value... but i don't think that's better
13:39.16Mech0zDid that antagonist bug get addressed yesterday? (Frames moving out of screen after wow restart)
13:40.27CIA-2203deccard * r50258 10MiniChat/ (Core.lua FAQ.txt):
13:40.27CIA-22MiniChat:
13:40.27CIA-22- FAQ removed
13:40.27CIA-22- SmartMinimize now triggers on all emotes
13:40.27CIA-22- SmartMinimize no longer triggers on system messages to solve a scrolling bug
13:41.00EllipsisI do not understand that addon
13:41.08Ellipsis>_>
13:41.57orionshockEllipsis: what MiniChat?
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13:42.30Ellipsisyeah
13:42.42EllipsisI mean, look at the changelog, or even just that commit
13:43.06Ellipsisit sounds like Blizz patch notes to me - overcomplicated code to the point that doing something little causes something entirely different to break
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13:43.32Ellipsisthere are fixes for bugs I never even dreamed of
13:44.18Ellipsisand I wrote a similar addon that does all the same stuff, without encountering any such problems (not to say that there are no bugs in my code, just that the ones MiniChat has are not easy to come by)
13:46.46EllipsisWTB better interface for jira
13:47.03Stanzilla2why? It's good
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13:47.50Ellipsisnot really
13:48.01EllipsisI can't do most of the things I want, even with all the views being configurable
13:48.18Ellipsise.g.: why the heck aren't Assignee and Reporter names clickable until you go to the actual ticket?
13:48.26CIA-2203anxarces * r50259 10FuBar_ProfessionsFu/ (FuBar_ProfessionsFu.lua FuBar_ProfessionsFu.toc README.txt):
13:48.26CIA-22FuBar_ProfessionsFu:
13:48.26CIA-22- Work around for a WoW error when trying to open Alchemy
13:48.37Ellipsisand why is there no way to add a column for # of comments?
13:49.42sag_ich_nicht[15:23] <Ellipsis> I was thinking we could take turns beating m4rku5 up <--oh rite
13:49.58m4rku5sag_ich_nicht, stop quoting 30mins old stuff just to highlight me
13:50.23sag_ich_nichti do and i will continue to
13:50.24Ellipsisdon't get me started on the left-hand column bumping things over to the point that I have to scroll horizontally to see the entire table of tickets (and no, I'm not removing useful columns to work around that)
13:50.25sag_ich_nichti am doing AV
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13:51.17m4rku5lol sag_ich_nicht du bistn gimp ;)
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13:51.45sag_ich_nichtand you don't get that this is an english language channel
13:51.48Stanzilla2m4rku5: er isn troll :D
13:51.52Stanzilla2ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/74568
13:52.01m4rku5naja trolle ignoriert man am besten (sry for german)
13:52.08sag_ich_nicht@ALL EU: Gutrot hit's 70 today, 1-70 buttnaked, 10:30 pm server time aerie peak, sen'jin beach(~57,57 durotar), make a lvl 1 troll and come :O
13:52.13sag_ich_nicht:X
13:52.18EllipsisStanzilla: time to use that jira interface you love so much!
13:52.31Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: how exactly is he gonna ding in a place where level 1s can come?
13:52.41sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: nobody knows
13:52.44sag_ich_nichtbut he said he has a plan
13:52.44Stanzilla2Ellipsis: I don't love it, I just said it's ok^^ and I've used it many times before
13:53.20Ellipsis:P
13:53.31Industrialsag_ich_nicht: wow thats so sad, im level 35 >_>
13:54.13orionshockwtf  ' should not tell firefox to do a quick search
13:54.24orionshockanyone know how to disable this?
13:54.45Industrialdoesnt here
13:54.49Industrial<PROTECTED>
13:54.58Ellipsisthey do different things
13:55.12Ellipsis' does links and / does all text
13:55.39Ellipsisit's really annoying if you get that widget focus glitch though
13:55.48Ellipsiscan't post anything with an apostrophe in it, gg
13:55.50cncfanaticsIndustrial, i'm lvl 23, be proud ur above me :p
13:56.02cncfanaticsbtw Industrial, FB is getting its first Release candidate today, when Kaelten logs in
13:56.32Ellipsiscncfanatics: are you gonna use jira for it?
13:56.32orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/ROCK-77
13:56.40orionshockah ignorance is everywhere ...
13:56.47Ellipsisorionshock: I have a whole list of those tbh
13:56.57cncfanaticsEllipsis, yea, want a jira thingy for it + I want the ability to add my shell & bat scripts to the svn, need Kaelten for both
13:57.03Ellipsisyay
13:57.54EllipsisI love the fact that that guy took the time to create a jira account, etc. just to post that
13:58.03Stanzilla2orionshock: that one's cool, too http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ROCK-86
13:58.19EllipsisI like the two word description too
13:58.32Ellipsiseven if we understood German, I doubt it would be that descriptive
13:58.36orionshockno that one is just being dense ontop of ignorance
13:58.43Stanzilla2Ellipsis: "felsen" just means "rock"
13:58.54Ellipsishttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/ROCK-73  << still my fav
13:59.06Stanzilla2and "Speicher" is "Storage"
13:59.18Ellipsissee, I knew it wouldn't be descriptive
13:59.22orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/ROCK-69  <<-- Ck's response. is priceless
13:59.23Stanzilla2:D
13:59.29Ellipsisindeed
13:59.31Ellipsispoor guy
13:59.51orionshock<PROTECTED>
13:59.55Stanzilla2lol
14:00.09Ellipsisthat really does need to be an option for jira
14:00.14Ellipsissee, I told you the interface was lacking
14:00.28Stanzilla2:/
14:00.29orionshocktbh, i think there needs to be a screening proccess for jira
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14:00.59sag_ich_nicht[15:58] <Stanzilla2> Ellipsis: "felsen" just means "rock" <--wrong
14:01.00sag_ich_nichtlern2english
14:01.04Ellipsis"Please type the following sentence without using 'u' or caps lock:"
14:01.05sag_ich_nichtFelsen means a big Rock
14:01.17sag_ich_nichtRock itself just means "Stein"
14:01.22Ellipsisoh noes, big rock
14:01.25orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-114   -- seems pritty good too
14:01.28EllipsisI still don't understand what that guy wanted
14:01.43Stanzilla2sag_ich_nicht: lol cunt
14:01.47orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-115 -- brother to 114
14:01.54orionshock<PROTECTED>
14:02.11Ellipsisorionshock: I see your 115 and raise you http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ROCK-81
14:02.20sag_ich_nichtStanzilla2: no, dick.
14:02.29Stanzilla2sag_ich_nicht: http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&sectHdr=on&spellToler=on&search=Rock&relink=on learn2leo
14:02.30orionshockya saw that one too.. ouch
14:02.42Codayuswtf...
14:02.50Codayus@ the rock 81
14:02.52orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-116  -- and i still think that this one is a load sequence issue
14:03.01Ellipsishow do people even manage to register for an account with that level of comprehension
14:03.03sag_ich_nichtStanzilla: leo is scheiße
14:03.09sag_ich_nichtStanzilla: http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/
14:03.21CodayusThey don't even...run...rock...wtf...
14:03.37EllipsisCodayus: welcome to everyone who's read that ticket
14:03.39Stanzilla2sag_ich_nicht: selbst da kommt felsen aus, ich denk es is egal was man sagt
14:03.42CodayusOMG
14:03.46sag_ich_nicht*sigh*
14:03.50CodayusMy head hurts so MUCH.
14:03.56sag_ich_nichtas i said to ckk
14:04.02sag_ich_nichthe should give me jira rights
14:04.05sag_ich_nichtso i can kill that shit
14:04.06sag_ich_nicht:X
14:04.13Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: you too?
14:04.14Ellipsis>_>
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14:04.30Ellipsisit's so frustrating that these stupid users are just everywhere
14:04.34Ellipsisyou can't escape
14:04.37Ellipsisyou cannot keep them down
14:04.40Ellipsisthey will win the war
14:05.05cncfanaticsEllipsis, good poinjt of my addon, stupid users just can't use fb :)
14:05.13cncfanaticshail slashcommands xD
14:05.20orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-111  ---- ok smart enough to take screenshots and upload them... but Copy and paste is too difficult
14:05.32Ellipsiscncfanatics: which is part of why I love you
14:05.42Ellipsisyeah orionshock that was amusing
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14:05.59Ellipsiscncfanatics: you realize half your jira tickets will be "HOW I RUN THIS MOD ITS NOT SHOWING IN MY FUBAR" right?
14:06.22cryogenpitbull gets confused about the current target an awful lot
14:06.28Ellipsisit does?
14:06.29cncfanaticsEllipsis, never had any of those in the wiki yet :p
14:06.37Ellipsiscncfanatics: stupid people are scared of wikis
14:06.53Ellipsisbut trust me...if you jira it, they will come
14:07.11cncfanatics:o
14:07.16Stanzilla2cncfanatics: don't you use LibFubarPlugin-3.0?
14:07.25cncfanaticsStanzilla2, why would I ?
14:07.32cncfanaticsthere is no gui, there is no dewdrop
14:07.40cryogenit does.
14:07.44Stanzilla2hm sad
14:07.48sylvanaari just realized that i havent seen battlestart galactica seasons 1 and 2
14:07.48Stanzilla2then I agree with Ellipsis
14:07.50Ellipsiscryogen: never had that happen o.O
14:07.56cryogenit often draws buffs/debuffs on the wrong target
14:08.01cryogenand often shows the hp/mana of the last target
14:08.05Ellipsisare you using Aura or AltAura?
14:08.10Ellipsisoh
14:08.12Ellipsisreally? o.O
14:08.25EllipsisI don't have issues like that...
14:08.38Ellipsisthen again, I don't have the "giant colored box" issue or the "stretchy textures everywhere" issue
14:08.43Ellipsisso I guess PitBull just likes me
14:08.59orionshock<PROTECTED>
14:09.06Stanzilla2Ellipsis: have you seen that ckk explained why PB needs AceLib?
14:09.10cryogenit corrects itself the second your new target takes damage
14:09.12cryogenbut its still notable
14:09.16EllipsisStanzilla: nope, where?
14:09.31Stanzilla2Ellipsis: was yesterday. it's because of Threat
14:09.37EllipsisI posted a ticket about that...didn't realize it was intentional, I figured it was just Aura getting neglected still
14:09.45cncfanaticsStanzilla2, not a surprise
14:09.47Ellipsiserm, shouldn't only the Threat module require it then?
14:10.00Ellipsisany other modules should still be Ace-less
14:10.07Stanzilla2Ellipsis: should...yeah
14:10.18orionshockyes it is
14:10.18Ellipsisk, so my ticket wasn't incorrectly filed *sigh of relief*
14:10.18Stanzilla2cncfanatics: well we forgot about it :D
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14:10.32orionshockofc Ace2 based lib would require it's framework stub
14:10.52Ellipsisis Threat going to use LibStub in the future?
14:10.56cncfanatics~seen Kaelten
14:11.09purlkaelten <n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 37m 17s ago, saying: 'cg_gatherer?'.
14:11.09cncfanaticsEllipsis, probably
14:11.09orionshockand honestly 3 of ck's addons are the bastard child of Ace2 and Rock
14:11.16cncfanaticsorionshock, mine are pure rock now :)
14:11.26orionshockPitbull and Cartographer use both Ace2 libs and Rock Libs
14:11.46orionshockFubar is more or less pure Rock, and so is CowTip
14:12.22cncfanaticsflexbar uses rock and only rock, and I love the performance :)
14:13.41cncfanaticsmight move to ace3 when its out if I prefer it, or mighjt even go standalone eventualy, I'll see
14:14.01orionshockmeh, as i see it: Ace3 due to the design method is going to be OVERLY modular and in effect be better for new addon designers or addons that just need a Snipit of code that they don't want to write themselfs.
14:14.05Stanzilla2cncfanatics: you could help debugging carto...
14:14.30cncfanaticsStanzilla2, whats up with it ?
14:14.31orionshockRock however will be for full addons like YssGuildBank, and Flexbar. where the addon will USE it all
14:14.40cncfanaticsI'm currently testing FB , and to test an actionbar addon u got to play pretty much :p
14:15.02Stanzilla2cncfanatics: well as orionshock said..it still uses alot AceLibs and there are tons of bugs on jira
14:15.05sbcncfanatics: well i see no reason to move away from rock if it is already working (+nice performance) :o
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14:15.24orionshockwhat pitbull?
14:15.36orionshocklol - bugs or ID10T errors?
14:15.40cncfanaticssb: I just considered my optio,ns
14:15.43cncfanaticsor standalone, or ace3 or rock
14:15.47cncfanaticsatm its rock and will stay it
14:15.49cncfanaticsI abuse rock's code :p
14:15.50sbyup :o
14:16.07orionshocktbh i use PitBull, and i have 0 errors, ....
14:16.17orionshockso something they are doing is wrong...
14:16.36sbi think well we will have 2 frameworks soon - but rock+ace2 are already playing along nicely - if ace2 is going to replaced by some more efficent piece - all happy then ;p
14:16.55cryogenah, i thought ckknight fixed the stealth issue
14:16.56orionshocknearly 70% of all "IT"S FUCKED" threads on the forums are caused by load sequence issues, missing externals / dependancys or idiot errors
14:16.56cryogenhe has not
14:17.32cncfanaticsstealth issue ?
14:18.08cryogenya, see jira
14:18.22cncfanaticslink me ? :p
14:18.29Ellipsisthat implies it's possible to actually find something you're looking for on jira
14:19.03orionshocklol
14:19.16cncfanaticsyou're not :)
14:19.19cncfanaticswhich is why I ask a link :=p
14:19.36cryogenits not rocket science
14:19.47cryogennavigate to pitbull, look at open issues
14:19.56cncfanaticsthing is, I'm testing stuff atm :)
14:20.08cncfanaticsi'm actualy playing atm to see if fb behaves fine
14:20.19Ellipsislulz @ "graphical error - red and green lines"
14:20.44Ellipsiscryogen: there's a ton of open issues, most duplicates or spam
14:20.49Ellipsislink kthx
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14:21.51orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/PB-85
14:21.54orionshocklol
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14:22.10orionshockok so ck's on pot this week he'll be back later when not so
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14:22.20cryogenEllipsis: took me 5 seconds to find it
14:22.24cryogendont be so smegging lazy
14:22.27cryogenits even on the first page
14:22.30orionshock?
14:22.38cryogenhttp://jira.wowace.com/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=10026&status=1
14:22.39Ellipsisfirst page by what filter?
14:22.39orionshockah yes got a point there
14:22.41Ellipsismine are customized >_>
14:22.46cryogen"open issues"
14:22.50cncfanaticseeek wtf i'm totaly lagged as soon as I entered combat, nasty
14:22.51cryogensee, not rocket science
14:23.00cncfanaticshope its not FB -.-
14:23.12sag_ich_nicht@ALL EU: Gutrot hit's 70 today, 1-70 buttnaked, 10:30 pm server time aerie peak, sen'jin beach(~57,57 durotar), make a lvl 1 troll and come :O
14:23.15Ellipsiscryogen: how many issues per page and what sorting order, is what I meant :P
14:23.30cryogen"the defaut"
14:23.35cryogen+l
14:23.52Ellipsisand I don't use the default, hence my inability to find it
14:23.55Ellipsisstill waiting for a link...
14:24.52Ellipsisbleh, found it via search for stealth
14:25.05Ellipsiswhy do people use real names on jira? makes it so hard to recognize who someone is >_>
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14:25.28sag_ich_nichtbitches don't know 'bout my FOSS spirit
14:26.04cryogenEllipsis: and you blame jira for this? sheesh
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14:26.22EllipsisI don't blame jira for that, no
14:26.25EllipsisI blame jira for ten other things :D
14:26.27cryogenyou fuck up the search to be unusable and then blame the product? :p
14:26.38EllipsisI didn't do anything to make the search unusable
14:26.43cryogen15:18 < Ellipsis> that implies it's possible to actually find something you're
14:26.43cryogen<PROTECTED>
14:26.45EllipsisI made the search more usable for my needs
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14:26.50Ellipsiswhich is watching new/updated issues
14:26.58Ellipsisthat doesn't mean I can find some random specific ticket without a link
14:27.08cryogenand thats my problem?
14:27.14cryogen:p
14:27.36Ellipsisno, but I still expect you to give a link if you want people to find one specific webpage
14:27.38Ellipsisit's common sense
14:27.54EllipsisI don't just go "hey look at the cool article on <website> about <topic>"
14:28.25cryogenEllipsis: i didnt expect jack
14:28.26EllipsisI give a link unless it's already been given >_>
14:28.30cryogenyou asked for the link
14:28.36cryogeni said "fo and find it yourself"
14:28.39cryogenhow am i expecting anything?
14:28.49Ellipsis[7:17:07 am] <cncfanatics> stealth issue ?
14:28.49Ellipsis[7:17:43 am] <cryogen> ya, see jira
14:28.49Ellipsis[7:17:56 am] <cncfanatics> link me ? :p
14:28.56EllipsisI didn't ask, cncfanatics did :P
14:29.21cryogen15:20 < Ellipsis> link kthx
14:29.36Ellipsiswhen I explained why your "just go to open issues" method wasn't viable
14:30.06cryogeni dont care :)
14:30.10Ellipsisyou called me lazy when in fact your ticket wasn't even on the first page on my screen :P
14:30.13cryogenits not like you are going to fix it
14:30.46EllipsisI still was curious
14:30.49Ellipsissince you gave us a two word description
14:30.59EllipsisI wanted to know what exactly you were talking about, is that so wrong? >_>
14:31.00orionshocknn all
14:31.53cryogenand i pointed you at how to get further information
14:32.03cryogenfor me to get you a link i would have to do the same steps as you would to do it on your own
14:32.06cryogenso why should i?
14:32.17cryogeni gave you all the information you needed
14:32.32cryogenanyway enough of the pointless bitching
14:32.35Ellipsisyou  gave me a two word description and a hint that it was in PB open issues
14:32.46Ellipsisthat's still 83 tickets to look through trying to find it
14:32.47Ellipsis>_>
14:33.12Ellipsisyou could have found it easier because you knew what the issue was, I didn't
14:33.56HA|StrikerI want to create an addon using Ace. Are there any good tutorials or example addons out there for beginners?
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14:34.34Ellipsisyep HA|Striker - check out the wiki
14:34.53Ellipsishttp://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Tutorials has a whole bunch of good links
14:35.16Ellipsisread through WelcomeHome especially
14:35.29cryogenEllipsis: control-f "stealth" - first and only thing found
14:35.32cryogen(incidentally how i found it)
14:35.47cryogenand you took interest in my general rantings, thats not my problem :p
14:35.48Ellipsisquick search for "stealth" returns two results
14:35.58Ellipsisnot sure what you mean by first and only, there
14:36.18Ellipsisa ctrl-f would only find things on the first page, which your ticket WASN'T
14:36.21Ellipsis(using my filter settings)
14:36.35nevcairielthen your filter is borked, its on my first page too :P
14:36.39Ellipsismy filter isn't borked
14:36.46nevcairielsorting by update time > *
14:36.51Ellipsisit's customized to prioritize the things I want to see
14:37.04Ellipsisnot my fault that I don't want to see cryogen's issues :P
14:37.16Ellipsissorting by priority is useful tbh
14:37.18nevcairielnot his fault either, so stop it :P
14:38.05Tinyboomcan anyone tell if it's possible to use both Prat and Dreamchat at the same time? :p (before I just try and bork it all:p)
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14:38.24cncfanaticswhat do you risk, Tinyboom ?
14:39.19Tinyboomnot much, other than frustration:p just gonna test then... :p
14:40.28EllipsisTinyboom: it should be, since DreamChat requires Prat
14:40.58Tinyboomlol, ok:D (slaps myself for being lazy and not checking^^)
14:41.05nevcairielDreamChat doesnt _require_ prat
14:41.06sylvanaarit does not require prat imo
14:41.07nevcairielo.O
14:41.14nevcairielit can work _with_ prat
14:41.29Ellipsisum..it did last I tried it
14:41.40Ellipsisthrew errors about not having PratPlugin
14:41.44sylvanaarwell it doesnt
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14:42.03nevcairielit checks if prat is there
14:42.17Ellipsismust have changed since then
14:42.21nevcairieli wrote half of it, so i would know :P
14:42.52sylvanaari wrote the prat integration bit - its supposed to be optional
14:43.09Ellipsiswell I figure you and sylvanaar know best, but I do recall being quite frustrated with it at the time, because my attempts to remove the requirement with lua tweaks didn't help
14:43.10CIA-2203phyber * r50261 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua:
14:43.10CIA-22Cartographer:
14:43.10CIA-22- InstanceMaps: Added Black Temple.
14:43.12Ellipsisit was pretty deep in there >_>
14:44.18sylvanaarcould be broken - i havent run without prat in ages
14:44.20nevcairielyay for phyber
14:44.31phyber:)
14:44.38Ellipsishttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/DreamChat/DreamChat_FrameClass.lua?r1=31262&r2=34329
14:44.39nevcairieli dont use dreamchat myself, was more like a request job
14:44.53Ellipsisafter that diff it would have required PratPlugin, correct?
14:45.04phyberthe "main" part of BT looks like lots is overlapping, but I'm not sure how to separate it out.
14:45.06sylvanaaryeah, i think frameclass is missing the check
14:45.10phyberthe sewers looks fine ;)
14:45.11sylvanaari just looked
14:45.18sylvanaartheres one in core.lua
14:45.39EllipsisWTB more testing of addons alone :P
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14:46.10kaidensylvanaar, heya, i saw one of your screenshots a while ago that showed your chat tabs colored, may i ask how you did that? i didn't see it jump out at me in prat
14:46.20sylvanaari set the text color
14:46.43sylvanaarits really easy
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14:49.42CIA-2203sylvanaar * r50262 10DreamChat/DreamChat_FrameClass.lua:
14:49.42CIA-22DreamChat:
14:49.42CIA-22- Mixin pratplugin only if its available.
14:50.33Ellipsisis anyone *actually* maintaining DreamChat?
14:50.43sylvanaarnot really
14:50.45Ellipsisor planning to work on it ever again?
14:50.53Ellipsisor even considering planning to work on it?
14:50.54Ellipsis>_>
14:51.01sylvanaarlook at the commit log
14:51.14EllipsisI just did
14:51.15Ellipsisthat's why I asked
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14:51.35Anduneanyone ever use TargetCheck or PerfectTargets?  Any suggestions for replacements for similar functionality?
14:52.17Andune(I'm a PitBull user and I do have Party/Raid targets, but I rather like having a separate frame that shows who exactly is on MY target)
14:53.04EllipsisAndune: there is a DogTag for that, but you might also want to check this thread: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6518.0
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14:53.39sylvanaari think minichat is based on dreamchat
14:53.40Ellipsisa fairly in-depth discussion of exactly who's not updating which mods :P
14:53.46Ellipsisprobably
14:53.52EllipsisI know my take on the minimizable frames is
14:54.11Ellipsisnot any direct code rips, but the concept at least
14:55.20sylvanaardreamchat has its own chatframe code - which replaces blizzards
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14:55.39EllipsisI know
14:55.46EllipsisI've read it, hacked it, learned to love and hate it
14:56.12EllipsisI've even touched its special place
14:56.20AKXOh hi.
14:56.24Ellipsishi
14:56.26AKXDreamchat highlights.
14:56.32sylvanaarhi stranger
14:56.36EllipsisI did not have sexual relations with that addon
14:56.40AKXOh. :(
14:56.45AKXBut - For the foreseeable future, no, it won't be maintained.
14:56.53AKXFeel free to pick it up and develop, though.
14:56.57Ellipsiseesh
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14:57.05Ellipsiseven if I had SVN access, I wouldn't dare
14:57.10AKXWhy? D:
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14:57.24sylvanaaris ace3 going to support ace-oo
14:57.25JCinDEIs there a wiki page on contributing to PeriodicTable?
14:57.28Ellipsisunless you're interested in a branch/fork that applies all the properties of those frames to the default chat frames
14:57.41EllipsisI personally think trying to replace those is just pure insanity :P
14:57.55cncfanaticssylvanaar, the OO most people need is 15 lines of code though
14:57.58Industrialsylvanaar: I don't think so
14:57.59AKXEllipsis, have you seen the FCF code? (That is, the Blizzard chat frames?) THAT is pure insanity.
14:58.08Ellipsisyes, and that is why I don't want to piss it off
14:58.13Ellipsis:P
14:58.17AKXHehe
14:58.24EllipsisI'm sure you can understand why
14:58.45sylvanaarits fine to implement you own chatframe logic
14:58.54CIA-2203nevcairiel * r50263 10CartoAce/: CartoAce: fork Ace2 based branch
14:59.44EllipsisI don't know; perhaps I'll flesh out my addon and put it on the SVN at some point (with credits to DreamChat for inpsiration, of course)
14:59.45sylvanaarBut, its easier to still use chatframe1 as your primary frame
15:00.02Anduneellipsis: thx for the thread link.  sounds like it's still somewhat of a dead-end.  :(
15:00.09EllipsisAndune: sorry to disappoint
15:00.19Ellipsishope you find what you're looking for somewhere
15:00.48AnduneI have a working version (that I modded to work w/ AddonLoader instead of the old one), but it seems to be the cause of heavy lag in 25-man runs
15:00.51sylvanaarwhy not commit it now?
15:00.55ChompersAndune: it's possible
15:00.59Ellipsisuh..
15:01.11Ellipsiswell, I don't have a SVN account, and it has no configuration and a couple bugs still
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15:01.23sylvanaarmake it in a branch
15:01.24Ellipsisplus I don't see the need since MiniChat is up
15:01.33Anduneso I've turned it off for now, and was hoping someone was either fixing it, or there was a nice alternative some people here are using  :P
15:01.38sylvanaarits the whole point of open development
15:01.49EllipsisI might as well put it on gcode instead of a wowace branch
15:02.25EllipsisI'm struggling with it at the moment because I haven't had a need for SVs yet, and I can't really decide whether to use a framework or not for that
15:02.45Ellipsisbut to finish a feature I'm working on, it's necessary (although only because of a Blizz bug, tyvm)
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15:03.24Ellipsisand the SVs aren't something I can readily change once there's users in the mix...
15:03.24cncfanaticswhat bug ?
15:03.28sylvanaarwell, idk - i commit all sorts of stuff, never know what someone might find useful
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15:03.42Ellipsiscncfanatics: there's no event fired during the logout process that's *before* layout-cache gets saved
15:04.04Ellipsisthey fire one before saved variables so you can do logout stuff there...which is my workaround
15:04.11cncfanaticsI'm also having weird bugs heh
15:04.21cncfanaticsI got some bug during login but not during reloadui
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15:04.35Ellipsisthat's fun too
15:04.47PrimerWhat exactly does "Update with Externals" in WAU mean? I'm seeing updates for things like Cartographer_Noteshare, Recount, etc, yet WoW still reports these as out of date
15:04.51EllipsisI wish their handling of the layout-cache and frame stuff was more elegant in general
15:04.58Ellipsisit seems to be sort of hacked together with no real system in mind
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15:05.20Ellipsis(not that the rest of FrameXML isn't...but you know)
15:05.27sylvanaarits old
15:05.53EllipsisI like the little quirks, they're fun
15:06.14Ellipsisyou never really know what's going to happen
15:06.53sylvanaarim sure if they wanted to rewrite it - theyd do it different - but that'd be a waste of effort
15:07.09Ellipsisof course
15:07.14Ellipsisit works, why mess with it?
15:07.14PrimerAnyone?
15:07.24sylvanaarright
15:07.40EllipsisPrimer: it means you are using embedded libraries, so the updates you're seeing are probably just because the libraries included with the addon have changed - while the addon itself may not have been updated recently
15:07.53sylvanaarPrimer the 2 things are unrelated
15:08.09Ellipsisnot really, unless you're going to point out that toc and updates aren't always synced :P
15:08.24Primerok, so stick with Externals
15:08.52sylvanaarWAU says "If you dont know, then use externals"
15:09.32Primerlet me just clarify. The opposite of Externals means, package foo, which depends on library bar, will bundle bar itself
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15:10.19Primerwheres with Externals, library bar will be installed separately so everything that depends on it uses that one install location?
15:10.25EllipsisPrimer: "with externals" means foo will contain bar
15:10.38Ellipsisbar is an external of foo, so foo comes "with" bar
15:10.43Ellipsisif that helps
15:10.49sylvanaarsomeone made a wiki page
15:10.52Primeryeah, that...my bad...still drinking coffee
15:11.00Primer4 hours of sleep...
15:11.26Ellipsissee also, Seerah's sticky @ http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8542.0
15:11.34Primerthanks
15:12.17phybernevcairiel: you know how the positioning works for Cartographer_InstanceNotes?  I thought it was xxxxyyyy, but it looks like it isn't.
15:12.26phybermy Naj'entus note is miles from where it should be :p
15:12.31Ellipsishmm
15:12.47Ellipsissylvanaar, I know this really has nothing to do with you, but since you do updater stuff I'm going to ask you anyway
15:13.19Ellipsisdo you know why my updater might be occasionally redownloading all addons (as if skip version check were on)
15:13.24nevcairielphyber: i tried understanding it once. . there is a function, which converts the actual coordinates into that arbitary number
15:13.32sylvanaarusing 2 updaters
15:13.36Ellipsisit's only started lately, and I haven't changed the updater at all - not sure if the files page has changed
15:13.40phyberoh, I should try to find that function, I guess ;)
15:13.41Ellipsis(this is not WAU btw)
15:13.46CIA-2203nevcairiel * r50264 10CartoAce/ (46 files in 23 dirs): CartoAce: backport changes from Cartographer orig
15:13.46sylvanaaroh
15:13.52sylvanaarwell, idk then
15:14.11EllipsisI was wondering if you knew of any issues with the xml it uses to find latest revisions or whatnot
15:14.21sylvanaarthere is no standard
15:14.48EllipsisI understand, but I mean the server page that most updaters use to get the list
15:14.59sylvanaarnope - no issues with it
15:15.20Ellipsissince this started happening rather suddenly, I guessed that it probably wasn't on the client end
15:15.25Ellipsisbut it may be
15:15.43sylvanaarif your updater scrapes the html then maybe
15:15.47Ellipsisnah
15:15.53EllipsisI wouldn't use an updater that was that dumb tbh :P
15:15.56sylvanaarwau uses the rss feeds
15:16.00sylvanaarthey work fine
15:16.01sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel that is so stupid and unneeded
15:16.13nevcairielso are you
15:16.16nevcairieland you are still around
15:16.17nevcairielso?
15:16.27Ellipsisoh snap
15:16.32sag_ich_nichtmhm
15:16.39sag_ich_nichtso your mom thinks differently
15:16.56sag_ich_nichtbut srsly
15:16.57sag_ich_nichtwhy nevcairiel.
15:17.05sag_ich_nichtwhy would we need that
15:17.11nevcairielbecause there is a need for it
15:17.15nevcairielpeople ask for it
15:17.15sag_ich_nichtwhy?
15:17.16nevcairielwe provide
15:17.17sag_ich_nichtso?
15:17.24sag_ich_nichtpeople don't know what they want
15:17.42sag_ich_nichtthe only reason someone could ask for it is dewdrop, and ckk said he'll add that in
15:18.25Ellipsisit's gonna be funny when some patch breaks the Ace forks enough that nobody wants to fix them
15:18.32Ellipsisand the users will cry and cry
15:18.46Ellipsisand say "why provide *Ace if you only maintain the Rock version"
15:18.55Ellipsiswell, no, they won't say that because they don't have a clue
15:19.01Ellipsisbut they would if they understood!
15:19.14cncfanaticsthey will just cry period :p
15:19.17Ellipsisindeed
15:19.29cncfanaticscrying should go straight to /dev/null
15:19.37Ellipsisbut we care about our users!
15:19.39Ellipsisriiiiiight guys?
15:19.40nevcairielso should all your bichting
15:19.51nevcairiel*bitching
15:19.54cncfanaticsmine ? :(
15:19.59Ellipsismine probably
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15:20.09cncfanaticsor both :p
15:20.18Ellipsisor (plot twist) sag_ich_nicht!
15:21.26Ellipsishmm
15:21.38Ellipsisthink I'm gonna go curl up in bed with a thesaurus and work on names for my addons
15:21.43Ellipsissee y'all later
15:21.44Ellipsis<3
15:21.45nevcairieli've been using the ace2 branch of carto anyway, with those backports in place, so why not share with users that might want it :)
15:21.45CIA-2203ammo * r50265 10CartoAce/ (cartographerlod.bat cartographerlod.sh install.bat): CartoAce: fix install.bat and the unpack scripts
15:21.57Grumphyber: find the GetXY and GetID functions in the Cartograhper code
15:22.56cncfanaticsbrb relogging
15:23.16sag_ich_nichtEllipsis
15:23.26sag_ich_nichtremember to sleep
15:23.27sag_ich_nichtcunt.
15:23.38durcynwhoa
15:24.35MoonWitchsag_ich_nicht, that word is pretty damn low
15:25.21sag_ich_nichtMoonWitch: i doubt that you know Ellipsis very well
15:25.22sag_ich_nicht:X
15:25.42aestilI think I'm done
15:26.01MoonWitchhonestly, I don't quite care how well I know someone, but that word is just low, doesn't matter how it is used.
15:26.10aestilhttp://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9827/wowscrnshot092907081349yb3.jpg
15:26.43sag_ich_nicht*kek*
15:27.08sag_ich_nichtMoonWitch remove the sand
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15:28.57cncfanaticsanyone around that manages svn permissions ? Kaelten doesnt seem to login
15:29.34KazieAnyone having problems with WAU?
15:30.00KazieMy WAU keeps shutting down by illegal actions or something like that :s
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15:31.31aldoi just updated ag_unitframes and roartindon layout seems to be missing.. (I had a version from awhile back)
15:31.39aldotried searching forums.. no luck.. is it just gone?
15:31.48aldofrom newer aguf's
15:32.03[Ammo]there's an aUF_Layouts addon or something
15:32.05[Ammo]it should be in there
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15:34.57aldohmm.. just stuck the new file in the layout folder and can't select it in-game
15:35.59aldonm got it
15:36.00aldothanks
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15:41.43swayenvoyAnyone know how to get in touch with andreasg?
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15:51.02phyberHigh Warlord Naj'entus should be on the InstanceNotes now.  I'll try to get more added when I'm finished in TK.
15:51.21ramozphyber: doing BT in cartographer? :OOO
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15:52.07phyberramoz: yeah
15:52.09Stanzilla2phyber: instance notes itself is broken for me
15:52.21Stanzilla2it just shows a blank map when I'm in an instance
15:52.37ramozphyber: /kiss /hug /love etc...
15:52.44phyberthat's InstanceMaps then, it works here. so i have no idea why it would be broken.
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15:54.22phyberhmm.
15:54.28phybersome of my instance maps are broken now.
15:54.34phyberI wonder if adding BT somehow broke them
15:54.50Paradoxdid you update atlas aswell as aloot
15:55.41Stanzilla2phyber: yeah sorry, meant instancemaps and no it was broken before
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15:56.31phyberParadox: nope, haven't touched any Atlas stuff.
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16:09.35CIA-2203ammo 07andreasg * r50278 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: backport memory leak fix from trunk to branches
16:09.47CIA-2203prudence * r50279 10Assessment/Assessment.lua: Assessment.lua : Add some french translation
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16:11.40CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r50281 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (. embeds.xml): FuBar_TrainerFu: Added missing lib Babble-Spell to externals and embeds.xml.
16:11.40CIA-2203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50280 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
16:11.40CIA-22TankPoints:
16:11.40CIA-22- Consolidate some calculations
16:11.40CIA-22- Add FIXME notes
16:11.55Daemonaphyber need help with that?
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16:12.27phyberI wasn't planning on touching Atlas Loot stuff at all.  Everything I need is already in whatever lib contains loot info ;)
16:13.00Daemonaah k, thought you need a list like "boss name;id;itemname;drop%" or something ;=
16:19.46Fisker-i hate n00bs cncfanatics
16:21.46cncfanaticsFisker-, why am I nub ? :o
16:22.19Daemonahrm.... anyone mind looking at this? http://ace.pastey.net/74580
16:22.25Daemonawow hangs on a finished load screen
16:22.39sag_ich_nichtmhm
16:22.41sag_ich_nichtokay
16:22.46sag_ich_nichtBoP and judgement are bugged
16:22.52Fisker-did i say that you were cncfanatics_
16:22.54sag_ich_nichtcan't judge while BoP is up
16:22.56sag_ich_nichtthat shouldn't be
16:23.04Fisker-isn't judgement considered a melee attack?
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16:23.47cncfanaticsjudgement is a magic attack
16:24.05sag_ich_nichtcorrect
16:24.07sag_ich_nichtit's a spell
16:24.12sag_ich_nichtthe error message is even wrong
16:24.17sag_ich_nichtit says "Can't do that while ."
16:24.37cncfanaticsstupid gankers
16:24.38Fisker-never seen that error message before
16:24.43cncfanaticscan't test my addon without getting ganked, ffs
16:25.34Fisker-oh lol
16:25.36HA|Strikerare there any ace2 gui tutorials? the tutorial in the wiki throws errors all the time :/
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16:26.53Fisker-Anyone diff'ed the EULA's btw?
16:27.20Daemonaisnt it just an additional window this time with reasons why they can terminate your account?
16:27.29Fisker-nope
16:27.43Fisker-the ToS and EULA was updated as well
16:28.09KazieAnyone having trouble with their WAU, encounting a a problem and needing to close?
16:28.40Daemonado you run the latest version Kazie ?
16:29.15Kaziei'm guessed that it automatically updates as it has done a lot of times.
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16:30.00Daemonathat can fail ;)=
16:31.29NickenyfikenWho cares about ToS and EULA :-P
16:31.43KazieAre you using the Firefox versioN?
16:31.56Daemonabut what bothers me more is that something in cartographer 50277 makes my wow client freeze at a finished loading bar ;)
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16:32.27OrphisHi
16:33.15OrphisDo you know an addon that compares the list of known pattern (by the current character) and tells which pattern are missing ?
16:33.41Xinhuani think there's one called RecipeRadar
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16:34.07KazieAnyone who knows what font has been used on this screenshot? http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=solokr8.jpg
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16:34.51Xinhuanhey ckknight, did librock change the behavior of /print with nil values printing "()" rather than "nil", or am i imagining things?
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16:38.57Undinehmm, just updated and now stuck loading :(
16:39.05Daemoname too Undine
16:39.13Daemonatrying to diagnose what addons are the culpri
16:39.52Undinei don't usually worry about mid-day updates. got last night's backup of course
16:40.22Daemonawhich addons did you update? i got autobar, bartender, bigbrother, bigwigs, babble-2.2, fubar_skillsPlusFu, Cartographer and Recount
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16:40.31KazieAnyone who knows what font has been used on this screenshot? http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=solokr8.jpg
16:41.05OrphisEverytime I join a raid, I've got an error from Ace2 telling that I've provided locale twice or something, do you know some add ons that might trigger this ?
16:41.11Undinebabble, fubar_trainerfu, atlasloot, cartographer, bigwigs, assessment, fubar_skillsplusfu,
16:41.37[Ammo]Orphis: you probably have oRA2 with and without modules
16:41.46[Ammo]delete all oRA2* folders and reinstall it
16:43.14OrphisThat's true Ammo, thank you !
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16:44.59Daemonaundine i took all the addons out of my list that both of us updated, and according to my test by re-enabling addons cartographer is the culprit...
16:45.24Undinei'll revert that then, thanks...
16:46.44Daemonaok something additional to cartographer it seem, at least for me...
16:48.18Undinelikewise for me. time to revert to last night's backup i think
16:48.31Daemonatry disabling skillsplusfu only
16:48.35Daemonabefore you revert
16:49.04Daemonaits skillplusfu only for me
16:49.07Azurewrathmhm... what tends to be better atm, SpamMeNot or SpamSentry?
16:49.17Xinhuanneither.
16:49.20Daemonarightclick and report? ;)
16:49.21Xinhuanthere's hardly any spam
16:49.25Xinhuanthese days
16:49.32Undinetrying...
16:49.34Xinhuanto worth using either of those
16:49.43Azurewrathnot on our realm...
16:49.46Xinhuanyou just end up doing a lot of text processing for nothing ;p
16:50.14Xinhuanwell my realm is high population, with 52 raiding guilds that can kill at least one boss in tempest keep or SSC ;p
16:50.18Azurewrathi get massive 6+ lines gold spam in the capitals..
16:50.24Xinhuanand i barely see more than 2 gold spammers a day
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16:50.50Xinhuanare you on EU realms?
16:50.57AzurewrathEU Kargath, yes
16:51.02Xinhuanhmm that would be it
16:51.05Xinhuani'm on US realms
16:51.10XinhuanUS advertising is on an alltime low
16:51.19XinhuanEU market is probably stronger lol
16:51.28Daemonaatleast the euro is ;)
16:51.45Undine\o/
16:51.46Azurewrathhehe
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16:52.27MoonWitchping ckknight
16:52.33DaemonaSomeone with SVN access should revert changes 50238 and 50248 on Fubar_skillsplusfu made by jayhawk as it makes the client freeze in the loading screen.
16:53.21Stanzilla2[Ammo] should be able to do this
16:53.36phybernah, it's a development trunk.  it's supposed to be broken.
16:53.43phyberwhat you mean to say is "there's a bug, someone should fix it"
16:54.11Daemonalet me quote r50248 "-hacked Alchemy problem"
16:54.24Daemonathat validates a revert for me if the addon is broken after that.
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16:55.58JCinDEdoes TSVNCache.exe lock up frequently for anyone else?
16:56.35Azurewrathit does not lock up for me, but it locks files sometimes which don't  have anything to do with SVN
16:56.50Azurewrathe.g. can't delete them then until i kill the process
16:59.26JCinDEhmm
16:59.33JCinDELocks up explorer on me
17:00.25JCinDEThe page about contributing to PeriodicTable was lost, right?
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17:03.17sag_ich_nichtJCinDE not for me
17:03.41OrphisXinhuan, I've checked RecipeRadar, it does lots of things that I want but it only lists pattern from vendor, it doesn't have drop only patterns
17:04.01Xinhuanno idea then, there might be another addon out there
17:04.03OrphisI guess I'll just have to make my own addon then
17:04.05Xinhuanbut i don't know it
17:04.11Xinhuani think one such addon does already exist
17:04.14Xinhuansearch wowace forums
17:04.54OrphisI4ve already searched a lot and found nothing but reciperadar and thought it would not suit my need
17:05.12durcynManufacSnoop
17:06.43AzurewrathXinhuan: the DCC send is just to show you some spam.. and now call that "not much" ;)
17:07.08Xinhuano_O
17:08.20Xinhuanlol haven't seen those for ages
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17:09.07Azurewrathi'm getting these all the time, only in capitals though
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17:10.35Paradoxany addons that lock camera zoom?
17:11.06Undineyou could remap all the keys/mouse that change it :)
17:11.53Paradoxcapital idea!
17:13.00Lyfethat would drive me nuts, methinks.. just because i like to be able to change the zoom if there's something visually in the way. :\
17:13.26ParadoxIt's driving me nuts when I keep accidentally zooming in with my mouse wheel :(
17:13.31cncfanaticshttp://www.teenagewow.2u.se/ wow
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17:15.00Funkeh`hey
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17:15.36hasteneed to get my cat to take images more often, they aren't so dull then :p
17:15.42cncfanaticsanyone here that can change svn perms ? :(
17:15.52darchonwho killed CIA-22?
17:16.00HA|Strikercan anyone here tell me how to find the object names for functions I want to hook?
17:16.01hasteit's awesome how I managed to change channel without noticing :(
17:17.13KazieAnyone who knows what font has been used on this screenshot? http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=solokr8.jpg
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17:19.01cncfanaticsKazie, not a default clearfont one ? it looks familiar
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17:21.02KazieI've looked through clearfont2 and clearfont2 package. and i don't seem to be able to locate it :S
17:21.17KazieIt's a little diffrent than one of them.. :S
17:24.01Hjaltekazie, maybe it's included in the sharedmedia font addon
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17:28.11Arcaiais Autobar broken again?
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17:35.20sag_ich_nicht@ALL EU: Gutrot hit's 70 today, 1-70 buttnaked, 10:30 pm server time aerie peak, sen'jin beach(~57,57 durotar), make a lvl 1 troll and come :O
17:36.13kaidenuhm... huh :P
17:36.20cncfanaticsKaelten, u around ?
17:36.34kaidensag_ich_nicht, completely naked or is that just his name?
17:36.47cncfanaticshe did 1-70 completely naked
17:37.17kaideninteresting, what class?
17:38.02Olisonwarrior i belive
17:38.02Arcaiais Autobar broken again? - poisons arent working >.<
17:38.07Olisononly saw one short vid
17:38.25kaideni find it hard to believe that someone leveled 1-70 with NOTHING on
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17:39.21Antiarc~seen moonsorrow
17:39.23purlmoonsorrow <n=moonsorr@HSI-KBW-082-212-002-012.hsi.kabelbw.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12d 1h 55m 53s ago, saying: 'sb: perfect, don't know of any dsl connection which has a better latency'.
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17:42.55kaidenOlison, he's got weapons equipped :P
17:43.11elkano~seen jayhawk
17:43.12purljayhawk <n=kvirc@201.74.cm.sunflower.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 752d 14h 12m 32s ago, saying: 'cya'.
17:43.17DaemonaAntiarc how urgent is it?
17:43.28AntiarcDaemona: Not terribly, just a small fix to SwapMagic
17:43.44Daemonai'll drop him a pm on the guild forums
17:44.14AntiarcI'm just gonna commit
17:44.19AntiarcAnd ask forgiveness later ;)
17:44.37Daemonakk :D
17:45.00Daemonaby the way did anyon revert jayhawks changes to fubar_skillplusfu yet?
17:53.15elkanoDaemona: I know what is broken but can't upload a fix atm
17:53.31Laric[Ammo] you here?
17:53.53Daemonaelkano give Antiarc the diff and let him upload? ;)
17:54.15Antiarck, CIA is broken, but I fixed the ranged/relic slot in SwapMagic, as well as the alt key behavior so that it's more like pre-2.2 behavior
17:54.45elkanowell he simply forgot to increase his variable he uses to run over the spellbock looking for alchemy by 1 after the loop
17:55.19Daemonawow...
17:55.30elkanoif antiarc has a look at the diff of the change he'll most likely see it right away where to add the i = i + 1
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17:55.44AntiarcWhere's the diff?
17:55.53elkanofish.wowace.com
17:56.19elkanohttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/SkillsPlusFu.lua?r1=50238&r2=50245
17:56.35Xinhuanwhoa CIA is missing from this channel
17:56.43nevcairielCIA is having issues today
17:56.44elkanowould be line 186
17:56.58Daemonagoddamn... someone kill him for doing a "while true do" ...
17:57.21AntiarcThis code makes no sense to me
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17:57.42Antiarc181 prevents the loop fro, continuing, always
17:57.42Tullerhurray for ItemPrice-1.1 :)
17:58.29AntiarcOh, nevermind
17:58.33AntiarcDurr. Stupid editor.
17:58.42nevcairielit needs a i = i+1 at the end of the loop
17:58.50nevcairielstill while true sucks hard
17:58.56AntiarcYeah
17:59.35ckknightMoonWitch: pong
17:59.59ckknightXinhuan: nil is different from (). () is 0 arguments, nil is 1 argument
18:00.16Kemayockknight: Holding down alt no longer seems to let you interact with a locked tablet.
18:00.40Xinhuanso a /print GetItemInfo() that prints () means nothing was returned, while if "nil" was printed, 1 argument "nil" was returned?
18:00.40AntiarcSkillsPlusFu fix committed
18:00.59ckknightKemayo: did you file a jira ticket?
18:01.28Hjalteckknight, something is wrong with the instances in the latest Cartographer r50277. Only the three first Outland instances seem to work for me. The others doesnt react and display the map when you press them.
18:02.05Kemayockknight: There isn't a tablet project on jira -- you want it under fubar, or something?
18:02.11aestilantiarc, when did you say you go for vashj?
18:02.16aestilor are you skipping her this week?
18:02.18ckknightyea, just shove it under FuBar
18:02.21Antiarcaestil: Skipping her this week
18:02.24aestilah.
18:02.25Antiarcwhy?
18:02.40aestilcause i got funky to change the Vashj BW, and you would have got there before us.
18:02.45AntiarcAh
18:02.53elkanonevcariel, I'm doing while true in EBB, too :/
18:03.03Antiarcelkano: While you're here, EBB request
18:03.15aestilnevcairiel: what is the deal with BT3BarPET exisiting even when I don't have a pet?
18:03.21nevcairielelkano: figure out the max iterations before the loop, its way safer
18:03.23AntiarcI'd like a way to remove mouse interaction with certain buff groups, so I can't click them off
18:03.42aestilwow, thats in interesting feature.  
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18:03.53Daemonamight be something with phyber fidling with Instance notes of Black Temple (added Naj'entus)
18:03.58nevcairielaestil: because you could get a pet in combat .. and you cannot create new frames in combat .. that can be quite a problem
18:04.08Antiarcsec, I'll demonstrate why
18:04.10aestilnevcairiel: kk, thats what I thought it was.
18:04.20nevcairielDaemona: nah, the bug was around before that revision
18:04.27Daemonaah k
18:04.30elkanoantiarc, remind me, when I'm home. shouldn't be that hard. And I think I know why :) a bar in the center of your screen
18:04.35AntiarcYup.
18:04.47Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_091907_211144.jpg
18:04.58AntiarcThe poison/SnD bars, specifically
18:05.05aestilnevcairiel: but this is what i don't understand, my PitBullUnitFrame2 eePanels don't exisit until I summon my pet.
18:05.30aestilnevcairiel: whereas, my eePanel2 panels exist all the time while parented to BT3BarPET
18:05.41nevcairielits different for unitframes, there is probably a secure driver that creates it even in combat
18:05.57aestilthere aren't secure actionbar stuff now?
18:06.04nevcairielthere is, but not like that
18:06.30Kemayockknight: FUB-55
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18:06.38nevcairielbut the frame exisiting shouldnt hurt, its hidden et al
18:06.47phyberDaemona: what might have something to do with that?
18:06.48aestilnevcairiel: kk.  its no big deal.
18:06.57elkanonevcariel: I'm doing it wrt cycling over all buffs. Iirc there is no API telling you the amount of buffs on the player and Blizzard's code is capped ad 16 or so
18:07.07Daemonanothing wrong phyber
18:07.08phyberoh, the instancemap thing
18:07.11nevcairielyou know, the buff limit is 40
18:07.13Daemonayeye
18:07.14aestilnevcairiel: i'm not worried about it hurting, but the eePanels I create for BT3BarPET exisit when there is no pet, and no pet bar.  so its more a visual thing.
18:07.14nevcairieler
18:07.15nevcairiel32
18:07.18nevcairieldebuffs 40
18:07.38phyberqit probably is something to do with the BT map, but i don't know what or if it is.
18:07.42phybermaybe i should comment it out :/
18:08.33aestilAntiarc: is the graph on the screenshot Raid DPS?
18:08.54AntiarcPersonal DPS
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18:09.00JCinDEoh fun. now my game is just halting at the loading screen. =(
18:09.16Undineturn of fubar_skillsplusfu
18:09.17aestilcan you have it show raid dps?
18:09.26AntiarcUndine: I just fixed that, actually
18:09.35Undineor update :)
18:09.38Antiarcaestil: No idea, I killed the mod because it ate a healthy chuck of CPU while idle
18:09.54aestilis that ReCount
18:10.07AntiarcSome mod called CombatGraph
18:10.09aestilalso, l2 upgrade omen?
18:10.14Antiarc<_<
18:10.22aestil:)
18:10.26Fisker-NOOOOOO
18:10.34Fisker-TB's torrrent tracker is down but planet terror was released
18:10.46aestili would also like to introduce you to SurfaceControl :)
18:10.53AntiarcHeh, yeah
18:10.59sbFisker-: SGA is fine! :p
18:11.00AntiarcI standardized all my textures yesterday, actually
18:11.00aestilis your meter viloation or assesment?
18:11.05sbbut wtb next week :/
18:11.07AntiarcAssessment
18:11.15aestilit doesn't sync, right?
18:11.35AntiarcNo, but I've always found it pinpoint accurate
18:11.44Fisker-yeah had to see the episode with special effects sb :)
18:11.45Fisker-much better
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18:11.51aestilyes, it is, i'm sure.  i meant, you can't force everyone to be on the same page.
18:11.52sbhmm yes
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18:11.55sbbut to be continued
18:12.00AntiarcNo, you can't
18:12.04aestil*nods*
18:12.11sband well... i have the episode w/o sfx, but... %-)
18:12.13aestilonly SWS does that, + allows for timeline segmenting.
18:12.19Fisker-the next episode is awesome
18:12.22Fisker-can't wait to see it with sfx
18:12.29aestili wish one of these other mods, which IMO are much better at displaying information, would pick up that feature.
18:12.41kaidenFisker-, what exactly is planet terror?
18:12.53aestil~seen nymbia
18:12.55purlnymbia <n=nymbia@75-166-32-125.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 17h 44m 18s ago, saying: 'many times'.
18:13.03Fisker-kaiden part of the grindhouse movies
18:13.07kaidenah
18:13.19kaidenwas wondering why it wasn't listed on tv.com i remember seeing it on newzbin earlier
18:13.23kaidenand didn't know what it was
18:13.26aestilckknight: can you put in an option for alt-aura which allows you to nudge the aura frame by x pixels in y direction from its anchor?
18:13.43kaidenaestil, good idea :)
18:13.46Fisker-apparently grindhouse wasn't that good an idea for the europeans
18:13.53Fisker-so they had to make it into 2 movies for the european release
18:13.54aestilckknight: http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot092907081349yb3.jpg  I would like my auras to be slightly above my eepanel border
18:13.57Fisker-Death Proof and Planet Terror
18:14.11Fisker-well it always was 2 movies, but you get what i'm saying
18:15.05kaidenhas caithlyn released her latest ui yet?
18:15.08kaidenthat anyone knows of
18:15.24Fisker-btw Kaydeethree
18:15.28Fisker-are you a mvp or something like that?
18:15.34Kaydeethreeno
18:15.49Kaydeethreeand I'd probably turn it down if they offered it. I like being able to yell at idiots
18:16.06Fisker-you still can
18:16.24Fisker-well not idiot but you can still yell at them
18:16.24Fisker-:)
18:16.41nevcairielhehe
18:16.52aestilwhy is there no option to 'hide' loggerhide from FuBar?
18:16.58Fisker-but i get you Kaydeethree
18:17.17Fisker-i troll far to much to ever want to have the mvp title
18:17.23Fisker-but quite a few actually wants me as mvp :P
18:17.38Fisker-not to mention that i'm Thundgot
18:17.49Kaydeethreelol
18:19.06kaidenomg you are thundgot?
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18:19.11kaidensorry.. dont know you
18:19.12kaiden;P
18:19.22Fisker-Thundgot said in a post that he was me :P
18:19.28dreamssfisk, QT managed to make a chick movie
18:19.29dreamssheh
18:19.43Fisker-what chick movie?
18:19.43kaidenlol, which dreamss?
18:19.48dreamssi can see many fans not liking it
18:19.59dreamssDeath Proof
18:20.08Fisker-that was QT?
18:20.12Fisker-Thought it was planet terror that was his
18:20.22dreamssplanet terror was robert's
18:20.40Fisker-but i don't really care :P
18:20.42phyberDaemona: Instances are still broken for me now, even if I comment out my Black Temple additions.
18:20.43Fisker-i liked the movie
18:20.48dreamssi like PT more than DP personally
18:21.03Fisker-well only 4 minutes to find out
18:21.04aestili really wish this eePanel script worked with grid.
18:21.21Daemonaphyber like i mentioned before, its nothing with your code ;)
18:21.27Fisker-also rosie mcgowan = fap fap fap
18:21.28phyberDaemona: ahh, ok.
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18:23.32dreamssFisker-, u watching SGA too? 401 and 402 were awesome
18:23.34cncfanatics~seen Kaelten
18:23.36purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (57m) #wowace (57m), last said: 'cg_gatherer?'.
18:24.13sbdreamss: 402? w/o sfx? :/
18:24.27dreamssyeah its not aired yet
18:24.57KazieAnyone who knows what font has been used on this screenshot? http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=solokr8.jpg
18:25.30dreamss401 was kick ass with no sound effects
18:25.31dreamsshehe
18:26.47Xinhuanhttp://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt
18:26.53Xinhuanlol at the invalid externals
18:27.00ckknightaestil: people are bugging me about worse issues
18:27.20kaidenKazie, lol would help to have an actual full size screenshot
18:27.25kaideni can't even read any of the text :P
18:27.42kaidenah stupid imageshack
18:27.46kaidenpopups :P
18:29.27Kazie^^
18:29.28Antiarcrofl
18:29.29AntiarcSo
18:29.32AntiarcApparntly
18:29.37AntiarcNefarian is bugged
18:29.42AntiarcThe druid class call hits everone.
18:29.43Antiarchttp://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot092807033855yr2.jpg
18:29.59KazieKaiden: if you can see the text, do you know the font?
18:30.04nevcairiellol Antiarc
18:30.07TNSeHAHAHA
18:30.16TNSefucking hillarious
18:32.08HjalteAntiarc, but what a fucked up UI :P
18:32.22AntiarcNo kidding. Sheesh,.
18:32.37xyuseriously, thats huge
18:32.42xyumaybe it's an 70 year old playing
18:32.49kaideni'm dying for a new ui :( i can't find anything that fits me :(
18:33.05cncfanaticskaiden , try fb ? (a)
18:33.05CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r50299 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
18:33.05CIA-22Babble-2.2:
18:33.05CIA-22-Update zhTW translation.
18:33.28Hjaltekaiden, exactly what are you needing? :)
18:33.58CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r50300 10BigWigs/ (Karazhan/Curator.lua SC/Morogrim.lua):
18:33.58CIA-22BigWigs:
18:33.58CIA-22-Update zhTW translation.
18:34.04kaidencncfanatics, i did, didn't much like the configuration
18:34.08Kaydeethreewow. that's as busted as a large portion of a raid winding up with rage bars
18:34.18AntiarcEven moreso.
18:34.30AntiarcSince your tank is then super squishy.
18:34.43Kaydeethreedidn't nef hit like a girl at 60?
18:34.44AntiarcI kinda want to try now
18:34.48kaidenHjalte, simplistic/minimalist, yet not so minimalist that button locations and quest minion space throws it off
18:34.58AntiarcHe could hit hard if he crushed + shadowflamed at the same time
18:34.59Kaziekaiden: http://kazie.dk/screenshot/sinope/WoWScrnShot_072407_175800.jpg <--- nizzle UI..
18:36.29AntiarcHeh
18:36.34AntiarcPolling bites KTM in the ass!
18:36.40xyuwish i could run w/ that kind of resolution
18:36.52AntiarcUnitIsFeignDeath() apparently only returns true if your pet isn't in combat
18:36.53_raneanyone know why Prat stops working completely when i switch characters, and i have to restart the game for it to work again
18:37.02_ranefreakingly annoying
18:37.03kaidenKazie, http://ss.ohnoes.cc some of my previous ui's.. my style
18:37.07AntiarcAnd Kenco checks for FD by polling that function on a high frequency
18:37.40kaidenthe quest minion is what always throws my designs off though :(
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18:38.19Fisker-FD doesn't/didn't work properly because of the pet :P
18:39.07CIA-2203jncl * r50301 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Recount.lua: Skinner: Updated Recount skin
18:39.49TNSenef hits like a wiener
18:39.53xyui wish you could redo quests.  i respecced and now want an item from an escort :(
18:39.55TNSeits the shadowflame that kills
18:40.06TNSeshadowflame + fear and dead dps was the wipers
18:40.16cncfanaticskaiden, its slashcommands now
18:40.29TNSeand as alliancei t was hillarious, BoP means 0 heals on tank needed since he does 0 damage :P
18:41.05aestilanyone see anything wrong with this, http://ace.pastey.net/74581
18:42.16kaidenaestil, yes
18:42.18kaideneePanel2
18:42.21kaidennot eePanels2
18:42.46Grumsex!
18:42.53kaidenGrum, and candy
18:42.54xyudrugs!
18:42.56kaidennow give me your route
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18:44.11Antiarc"About the Feign Death bug: Just tested it with Omen threatmeter, and Omen doesn't have any problems. Maybe Omen made a workaround for this, I don't know. Just letting you know, that maybe you can find some "inspiration" in the Omen code ;)"
18:44.12Antiarc:V
18:44.27Fisker-:O?
18:44.39ckknightthat's KTM?
18:45.06nevcairiellol
18:45.16sztanpetwhere can i find some info on UnitPopupButtons?
18:45.17AntiarcYes
18:45.23sztanpetgoogle didnt help much
18:45.53xyui'd guess wowwiki but i dont know anything
18:46.16sztanpetaye, i tried that too with a simple search
18:47.45Paradoxany addons that can show who is targeting you? or is that not possible
18:48.07Fisker-to an extent it's possible
18:48.15Fisker-By quering all other targets you have
18:48.16Fisker-party1, etc.
18:48.29sbyup, autobar broken again :/
18:48.31Fisker-but that depends on someone in your party targetting the person targetting you
18:48.44CIA-2203cncfanatics * r50302 10FlexBar2/ (57 files in 13 dirs):
18:48.44CIA-22FlexBar2: First Flexbar2 release candidate
18:48.44CIA-22<PROTECTED>
18:48.44CIA-22<PROTECTED>
18:48.44CIA-22<PROTECTED>
18:49.09JCinDEokay after extensive trial and error (280+mods) I've tracked it down to SkillsPlusFu causing my game to hang at the load screen.
18:49.16aestilkaiden: the name of the mod is eePanels2  i'm not referencing eePanel2 in that script.
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18:50.02AntiarcJCinDE: Update, it's been fixed.
18:50.23JCinDEomg
18:50.29JCinDElol
18:50.45JCinDEspent an hour tracking it down he
18:51.22Antiarc(11:09:00 AM) JCinDE: oh fun. now my game is just halting at the loading screen. =( ; (11:09:16 AM) Undine: turn of fubar_skillsplusfu ; (11:09:26 AM) Antiarc: Undine: I just fixed that, actually
18:51.24Antiarc:P
18:51.40JCinDE>.>
18:51.55Funkeh`Antiarc: You are a rogue right?
18:51.57JCinDEI alt tab too fast
18:51.59Antiarcyeah
18:52.26Funkeh`Antiarc: If you CoS a debuff does it fire the aura_gone_self event for that debuff? Or is it some kind of dispel event?
18:52.38AntiarcNo idea. I can check if you need.
18:52.44Funkeh`Please
18:53.35JCinDEthanks Antiarc, btw
18:53.39AntiarcNo prob
18:55.32AntiarcCHAT_MSG_SPELL_AURA_GONE_SELF - Dread Poison fades from you.
18:55.48Funkeh`thanks
18:55.50AntiarcThere's also CHAT_MSG_SPELL_BREAK_AURA - Your Dread Poison is removed.
18:56.00Funkeh`okay
18:56.39hasteoutside ogrimmar are we?
18:56.40JCinDENow fix CowTip so tooltips don't show up when I tell them not to. ^_^
18:56.46AntiarcThere's also COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE, arg1 = SPELL_DISPELLED, arg2 = Dread Poison
18:56.50Antiarchaste: Terrokar
18:56.59hastealmost!
18:57.17JCinDEI know...that's ckknight's baby.
18:58.47JCinDEI looked at the code earlier and did some digging. It seems GameTooltip:Hide() just doesn't work anymore if called in the tooltip's OnShow event. Or maybe something else is happening after to force it to show again.
18:59.33ckknightdamn Blizzard, changing how things work
19:00.21JCinDEgonna see if I can fake it out with SetAlpha
19:01.11Antiarcckknight: Idea for CowTip
19:01.12sztanpethow can i add things to the right click menu of a channel frame?
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19:01.28AntiarcSome kind of tag I can add to see who else in my party is targeting that target
19:01.31sztanpeti mean when i click on a players name
19:01.35ckknightJCinDE: that'd likely work temporarily
19:01.40ckknightAntiarc: [TargetingList]
19:01.45AntiarcOh, hot.
19:02.00ckknight:-P
19:02.03AntiarcThank you for being prescient
19:02.09aestilthat resize script does actually work, but it doesn't seem to work when its supposed to.
19:02.54HA|Strikercan someone tell me how to hook into the ReportPlayerIsPvPAFK function?
19:03.04hanzzonhiya gals and guys, in my quest to rid my system of CT_Mods I've found one culprit, CT_MailMod facilitats holding down ALT when clicking stuff to add it to the Trade window, BulkMail2/Inbox does not do this it seems, know of any other Ace addon that does?
19:03.31aestillike, you'd think PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED would fire ever time I join a group, but if it does, its not resizing the script.
19:03.46Antiarchanzzon: I use Postal and AltClickToAddItem
19:03.54aestili'm thining, maybe, the GridLayoutFrame takes a few seconds to change sizes once a person is added to the group/raid.
19:04.10hanzzonAntiarc; ok, will try it, thnx
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19:04.36hyperChipmunkhanzzon: you want AltClickToAddItem
19:04.48hyperChipmunktrade window has nothing to do with mail
19:05.00hyperChipmunkwhy does everybody ask for that in bulkmail
19:05.23Fisker-btw Antiarc what do you need for Sanity2
19:05.30Fisker-Sanity2 And SanityBags right?
19:05.33hanzzonhyperChipmunk; because we are used to crazily written CT_mods :P
19:05.44AntiarcSanityItemCache - SanityBags is optional
19:05.50Fisker-awright
19:06.10Kuja^btw, is there a mod like CT_Timers, but ace?
19:06.15AntiarcWhat's CT_Timers do?
19:06.36aestilso, my question, is, is there some way to delay the function from running by like 2 seconds after the event fires.
19:06.53JCinDEyou mean the ct_mod mod? Let's you create timers with slash command
19:07.36Kuja^yeah, that one
19:07.44Paradoxanyone know where the hell you download the WWS server files to host it yourself?
19:07.59Antiarcaestil: AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0):ScheduleEvent("YourCustomEventName", function() { someCode() }, 2.0)
19:08.21JCinDEseveral of them Kuja
19:08.45AntiarcBigWigs can
19:09.03JCinDEFuBar_TimerFu, SorrenTimers, DBM has it
19:09.10JCinDEnot that DBM is ace but still
19:09.10Antiarc<PROTECTED>
19:09.22Funkeh`no
19:09.35Funkeh`its /bwcb <>
19:09.49Tinyboomcncfanatics:ping
19:09.50Funkeh`or /bwlcb <>
19:10.18cncfanaticsTinyboom, yes ?
19:10.52Tinyboomcncfanatics: lots of missing dependencies in flexbar2 :p though it seems all are there;)
19:11.00cncfanaticsweird weird
19:11.03cncfanaticsall are there for me -.-
19:11.06cncfanaticslets see in the zip
19:11.21Tinyboomit's the addon list that borks
19:11.25cncfanaticswhat errors ?
19:11.36hanzzonhyperChipmunk; AltClickToAddItem does exactly what I want with the Trade window, I take it it wont interfere with Auctioner and Igor's Mass Auction?
19:11.48Tinyboomjust says missing dependency, posting screen in a sec
19:12.59cncfanaticsjust tell me the text
19:13.04hyperChipmunkhow the heck would i know that? O-o
19:13.06cncfanaticstyping it goes faster then a screeny
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19:13.19hyperChipmunkwho's igor?
19:13.29hanzzonhyperChipmunk; hehe, I was just thinking out louad =) thnx for the help!
19:13.36lhunathùay I ask who made the new files.wowace.com?
19:13.38lhunathmay*
19:13.52hanzzonhyperChipmunk; just a big window that allows you to post up to 30 auctions simultaneously
19:13.57hyperChipmunkhehe
19:13.59AntiarcKaelten, probably
19:14.15lhunath!seen kaelten
19:14.19Tinyboomcncfanatics: http://bildr.no/view/108594
19:14.21lhunath;x
19:14.23hanzzonhyperChipmunk; very good for us AH junkies :P
19:14.28hyperChipmunk~seen Kaelten
19:14.29purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 47m 53s) #wowace (1h 47m 53s), last said: 'cg_gatherer?'.
19:14.29Antiarc~seen Kaelten
19:14.30purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 47m 54s) #wowace (1h 47m 54s), last said: 'cg_gatherer?'.
19:14.39Tinyboomcncfanatics: haven't tried logging with it yet, so might just be cosmetic
19:14.52aestilmy custome event name is PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED, and the function is called eePanels2:PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED()
19:14.53cncfanaticsTinyboom, the filelist.wau file was messed indeed
19:15.01cncfanaticstry downloading a zip in 5 minutes
19:15.02Antiarcaestil: Don't use that event name
19:15.11AntiarcUse like AestilPartyChanged
19:15.17Tinyboomcncfanatics: kk:)
19:15.19cncfanaticsI fixed it already
19:15.21AntiarcSomething that won't collide with existing functions
19:15.47aestilso register the function as ("AESTIL_PARTY_CHANGED") ?
19:16.01AntiarcNo just do something like this:
19:16.32AntiarcAceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):ScheduleEvent("AestilPartyChanged", function() { someResizeCode(); moreResizeCode(); }, 2.0)
19:16.43hanzzonbtw, that files.wowace.com site works great in Firefox, but not so great in Opera, takea a long time to load/sort...
19:16.51AntiarcThat creates a timer named AestilPartyChanged that executes the given function after 2 sec
19:17.21OminousAntiarc: thats not lua functions :P
19:17.28AntiarcDoh >_<
19:17.31lhunathis there a place where I can request wowace addon information?  such as files.wowace.com used to be?
19:17.35TNSehanzzon a long time?
19:17.37AntiarcToo much ruby lately.
19:17.39TNSeit locked up entirely here :P
19:17.48lhunathone that gives it in a way that's at least a little bit standardized and parsable?
19:17.49OminousAntiarc: :D
19:18.07hanzzonTNSe; hehe, I see :P
19:18.15Ominouslhunath: yes files.wowace.com/latest.xml afaik
19:18.42lhunathoo.  lovely.
19:18.51IndustrialhyperChipmunk: are you aware of the error that happens when you want to mark thread/forums as read?
19:18.55IndustrialAn Error Has Occurred!
19:18.57IndustrialSession verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again.
19:18.58hanzzonProcess Monitor tells me Opera is using 1.25GB Virtual Ram size, gotta love those Flash adds and stuff :P
19:19.03Industriallogging out and in doesnt help.
19:19.07JCinDEckknight: nope. can't fake it out with setalpha
19:19.53hyperChipmunkIndustrial: wuh?
19:20.12IndustrialhyperChipmunk: I get  page with that error ALOT when I just press "mark all as read"
19:20.17Ominouslhunath: thanks and http://files.wowace.com/latest-noext.xml
19:20.20hyperChipmunkwhere?
19:20.20JCinDEit's odd. when the tooltip is set to appear, it does so instantly. When it's set to not appear it doesn't at first and then a few ticks later it does. There has to be something else that's touching the tooltip after the event fires.
19:20.23Industrialon the forum
19:20.42hyperChipmunki've never visited the forum
19:21.01Industrial.. doh
19:21.07IndustrialI thought you were in charge :P
19:22.01lhunathominous: love that one.  inspires me to turn my ace addon updater into a full-features dependancy package manager.
19:22.14lhunaths/features/featured/
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19:23.25ArcaiaMy rogue
19:23.27ArcaiaJust tanked
19:23.30ArcaiaArcatraz
19:23.35ArcaiaBooyah. Prot Rogue.
19:23.54Antiarcwtb flourish
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19:26.59HjalteDoes Fire Shield get the imp out of phase shift?
19:27.21sztanpetno
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19:28.07Xyborg[Medivh|HoAlright... how do I get my pitbull "Player" frame back after accidently disabling it?
19:28.39sztanpetin the extra units menu
19:29.36Xyborg[Medivh|HoNot workin
19:29.43sztanpet/reload
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19:30.50Xyborg[Medivh|HoI've been trying to "adapt" to this ROCK configuration thing for 2 days and it's just not making me happy.
19:31.03Mudkipzyou'll get used to it
19:31.05xyui'm used to it
19:31.06MudkipzI did...
19:31.22Xyborg[Medivh|HoAnd what's with ROCK resetting all my crap all the time
19:31.31sztanpetnot a big problem if your willing to keep on clicking
19:31.37xyudoesn't reset mine
19:31.42xyuso i'm thinking it's a problem on your end
19:31.43Mudkipzme neither
19:31.59Xyborg[Medivh|HoNot a problem on my end.  Not running any other addons.
19:32.11Xyborg[Medivh|HoSolely pitbull at the moment
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19:33.48Xyborg[Medivh|HoAnd is there any way to stop the unitframes from blinking?
19:34.14KemayoAnyone know whether you can trade (non-consumable) items between people from different realms in a BG?
19:34.54Xyborg[Medivh|HoNevermind.  Just disabled that combat fader thing
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19:37.15MudkipzKemayo no
19:37.16Mudkipzlol
19:37.56KemayoMudkipz: Aw.
19:38.32Tinyboomcncfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/74585
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19:42.05cncfanaticsTinyboom, fixed now
19:42.26Amadeo:D
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19:42.52cncfanatics:o
19:42.55cncfanaticsTHE CIA IS BACK
19:43.09JCinDEckknight: It seems they modified the tooltip code so you can see buff times ticking down. Best I can figure anyway. There's a new OnUpdate event handler in the blizzard code that wasn't there before the patch.
19:43.11cncfanaticsTinyboom, next zip is scheduled in 16 minutes
19:43.40CIA-2203oridan * r50310 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
19:43.40CIA-22SpellReminder:
19:43.41CIA-22- add "static durations" for spells like mend pet (which has no documented duration)
19:43.41CIA-22- fix some silly bugs, including losing the custom bar colour.
19:46.30Tinyboomcncfanatics: kk, thanks:) looking forward to trying it:)
19:47.05cncfanaticsTinyboom, there's gonna be a crapload of bugfixes in the next few hours
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19:47.34CIA-2203deccard * r50311 10MiniChat/Core.lua:
19:47.34CIA-22MiniChat:
19:47.34CIA-22- final fix to SmartMinimize scrolling issue
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19:54.08cncfanaticssomeone
19:54.25Amadeosomewhere
19:54.32Kemayockknight: Mind if I add current-zone fishing requirement into LocationFu?
19:54.43ckknightoh yea, sure
19:54.45ckknightsounds good
19:56.28Stanzilla2ckknight: are u still busy? :(
19:56.32ckknightyes
19:56.41Stanzilla2:(
19:56.50Funkeh`Antiarc: hmm, I wonder if the same event triggers when you die
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20:05.06CIA-2203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50312 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua:
20:05.06CIA-22TankPoints:
20:05.06CIA-22- Small visual cleanups
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20:07.53MarliHow do I hide the options window under the minimap for Auctioneer?
20:07.57trillexHello there, I've been looking for a tooltip addon that anchors the tooltip to your mouse. I was recommended LitheToolTip but that doesn't do it properly. ToolTip is too advanced for my needs and too colorful so I'm in a bit of a pickle
20:08.15MarliTinytip
20:08.17MarliI use
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20:10.15Saladinaue tinytip is nice
20:10.25MarliHow do I hide the options window under the minimap for Auctioneer?
20:10.36MarliThe fucking little one that pops out when you hover over
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20:14.20vithostrillex: i use CowTip, but it does a lot more than just that, which it sounds like you may not be interested in
20:18.19HjalteIs there an easy way to share layouts in Cowtip?
20:19.10liquidzooDoes Cowtip work with other addons, like Auctioneer or FlagRSP?
20:19.29Hjalteliquidzoo, yeah.
20:19.29Matrix110of course?
20:19.31CIA-2203kemayo * r50313 10FuBar_LocationFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_LocationFu: Add fishing skill requirements.
20:24.02Flexomcncfanatics: when typing /fb gui i get http://ace.pastey.net/74587
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20:25.47cncfanaticsFlexom, /fb gui doesn't exist anymore
20:25.51cncfanaticsthe gui got scrapped for now
20:28.13Hjaltecncfanatics, can't people just use Rock or Deucecommander to configure FB2?
20:29.29charonAntiarc: is onyxia threat supposed to be correct in Omen? (not that it really matters but it was _way_ off)
20:29.30cncfanaticsHjalte, there is no gui at all, only slashcommands
20:29.40cncfanaticsif someone wants to code one sure, but for now I'll concentrate on features myself
20:29.43AntiarcIt should be, yes, why?
20:29.53AntiarcIf you mean the phase 2 -> 3 transition, I'm not sure that's still understood.
20:30.03charonno it was off even before phase 2
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20:30.22AntiarcHuh. Wonder if her knockback is getting the wrong multiplier
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20:30.47charonit would put me down a fair bit at each knockback and/or wing buffet (hey first time tanking) so eventually i had very low threat and the 2 dps needed 2.5 times mine (or so) to grab aggro
20:31.04Flexomcncfanatics: kk, oh well, time to try old school way then:p
20:31.38aestillol, we still dont' understand onyxia P3 threat.
20:31.39aestilthats funny.
20:32.31Fisker-what do you mean_
20:32.32Fisker-?
20:33.08charonAntiarc: well if you figure that it might be related to the rumours(?) of problems at KT and such, i might investigate a bit
20:33.33charoni have a screenshot stating i'm holding aggro at 16.4k threat while a moonkin sits at 52.9k but that's pretty much it
20:33.46Xyborg[Medivh|HoOk.  Seriously, how the hell do I save a profile so I don't have to redo each and every frame again?
20:33.52Xyborg[Medivh|HoCause this shit is pissing me off.
20:34.38charonXyborg[Medivh|Ho: under pitbull config -> $frame -> Other -> Layout
20:34.44charonthat being said, it's rocket science
20:35.15Fisker-it's rocket surgery
20:35.30Xyborg[Medivh|HoThat didn't work.  That's what I did before.
20:35.43Xyborg[Medivh|HoBut that was to copy settings from one frame to the next.
20:35.49charonFisker-: no wonder yours never fly if you treat them with scalpels
20:36.12kadrahil2.2.2 = graveyard patch
20:36.13kadrahilwooooooo
20:36.20Fisker-no u
20:36.25Fisker-both of u
20:36.25charonXyborg[Medivh|Ho: to be honest i've always had issues with copying layouts simply because frames would start inheriting stuff from others when they shouldn't
20:36.28kadrahilhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
20:36.31Fisker-owld
20:37.09kadrahilbecause dying at stonetalon peak or the lower right portion... sucks
20:37.15Xyborg[Medivh|HoI'm running only pitbull cause I want to get this set up.  And after 2 days of screwing with ROCK, I can't get this crap to work properly
20:37.31Xyborg[Medivh|HoBah.  Screw it.  I'll just stick with my original plan of abandoning ACE addons.
20:37.36JCinDEckknight: try as I might I cannot find what is causing the tooltip to appear. The only lead is the addition of the OnUpdate handler for the tooltip. The game uses a timer to refresh it now. But completely disabling the handler doesn't even work.
20:37.56ckknighthrm...
20:38.34JCinDEthe handler calls back to the UpdateTooltip method of the owner, but the owner in this case is UIParent and it doesn't have such a method.
20:38.38HjalteXyborg[Medivh|Ho: What exactly are you trying to do?
20:39.43Xyborg[Medivh|HoSet up pitbull.  I spent about an hour moving things, adjusting sizes, and getting everything just right.  So I logged out and grabbed a pop from the store.  Came back, logged back in, and everything was reset as if I'd never done a damn thing.
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20:40.49sag_ich_nichtgutrot has just hit 70
20:40.52sag_ich_nichtworld server down
20:40.53sag_ich_nichtlol
20:41.38HjalteXyborg[Medivh|Ho: Hmm. That's obviously not how it is supposed to work. If you change anything, then log out and log back in, all your settings are lost? - When you log out, does your client crash?
20:42.11Xyborg[Medivh|HoNope
20:42.13Xyborg[Medivh|HoNo crash
20:42.47HjalteXyborg[Medivh|Ho: Try and change something, then reload the ui, then log out and then log back in. Then tell me if it saved your work.
20:42.48Xyborg[Medivh|HoAnd pitbull was the only addon I had in my addons folder.  Same problem occurred with FuBar and Cartographer.
20:43.12Xyborg[Medivh|HoLet me redownload pitbull...
20:43.40HjalteXyborg[Medivh|Ho: Me, and several other users in this channel, have no problems with Pitbull :)
20:44.06Xyborg[Medivh|HoWell it's interesting that I do when I'm running a fresh WoW install and ONLY pitbull.
20:44.17Hjaltesag_ich_nicht: How many were there to witness it?
20:44.32CIA-2203cncfanatics * r50314 10FlexBar2/ (8 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20:44.32CIA-22FlexBar2:
20:44.33CIA-22Core.lua
20:44.33CIA-22<PROTECTED>
20:44.33CIA-22Slashcommands.lua
20:44.33CIA-22<PROTECTED>
20:44.35CIA-22Action.lua
20:44.38Mecdemortwow can you only set keybindings on globally named frames?
20:44.44HjalteXyborg[Medivh|Ho: The only thing i can think of is that your client crashes when you log out and doesnt save your settings.
20:45.34HjalteXyborg[Medivh|Ho: It should however also save your settings when you reload your UI, so try that.
20:45.54Xyborg[Medivh|Hoeven reloading my UI resets the frame positions.
20:46.52HjalteHmm. Any of you bright addon coders have any suggestions to what Xyborg might do?
20:47.33Xyborg[Medivh|HoWell.  I know what I'm going to do for the next couple months.  Not use anything developed by ckknight and try again later on.  Hopefully then things will work.
20:47.46Xyborg[Medivh|HoI love his addons... when they work for me.
20:47.47ckknight*thumbs up*
20:48.21Hjalteckknight, got any idea why his settings reset even on a reload ui?
20:48.40ckknightno, I don't. Seems a bit odd
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20:48.49ckknightXyborg[Medivh|Ho: were you using the default profile or something else?
20:48.58Fisker-oh hi
20:48.59Xyborg[Medivh|HoDefault
20:49.06charonbtw a random idea, check that the WTF directory is writable?
20:49.13Xyborg[Medivh|Hoit is lol
20:49.18ckknighthrm
20:49.19CIA-2203funkydude * r50315 10BigWigs/ (Hyjal/Kazrogal.lua SC/Vashj.lua TheEye/Solarian.lua): BigWigs: Better method at hiding proximity since deaths don't fire aura_gone.
20:49.20ckknightthat's really odd, then
20:49.29Fisker-what OS you using Xyborg[Medivh|Ho?
20:49.32HjalteXyborg[Medivh|Ho: Your harddrive isnt full or something?
20:49.46ckknightXyborg[Medivh|Ho: open up the PitBull.lua in your WTF\Account\ACCNAME\Saved Variables\ folder
20:49.47ramozXyborg[Medivh|Ho: if you change your videosettings, does it save?
20:49.59Xyborg[Medivh|HoYeah.  Saves my video settings
20:50.20Fisker-btw Antiarc
20:50.27Fisker-gotta integrate the bank in Sanity2 :P
20:50.51Xyborg[Medivh|HoPitbull.lua is open.  What am I looking for?
20:51.06ckknightcopy the contents, put it into http://ace.pastey.net/
20:51.15Xyborg[Medivh|Hokk
20:52.57trillexHm. My minimap constantly goes into a pitch black
20:53.49CIA-2203funkydude * r50316 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua:
20:53.49CIA-22BigWigs: Plugins/Messages:
20:53.49CIA-22- Add text shadow under messages, thanks to Kothnok.
20:54.12Xyborg[Medivh|HoNot getting how this pastey thing works...
20:54.48ThirstehXyborg[Medivh|Ho, select "LUA" in Language, paste whatever you want to paste, post it and link to the resulting page in this channel
20:55.01charonit nearly had me fooled when it told me to work out the "summation" 12-7
20:55.09Xyborg[Medivh|HoWhere's the "post" button?
20:55.16ThirstehIt's "Paste"
20:55.52Xyborg[Medivh|HoI see no "paste" button
20:56.22ThirstehXyborg[Medivh|Ho, it's the only button element on the page
20:56.37ThirstehTry reloading the page, might have timed out during transfer
20:56.39Xyborg[Medivh|Hohttp://ace.pastey.net/74588-1vfy
20:56.46Xyborg[Medivh|HoThere ya go
20:56.49Thirsteh:)
20:56.57Chompershey ckk
20:57.05Chompershow was your day?
20:57.08sag_ich_nicht[22:44] <Hjalte> sag_ich_nicht: How many were there to witness it? <--over 9000
20:57.11sag_ich_nichtworldserver is back
20:57.13sag_ich_nichtwe are in grom gol
20:57.16sag_ich_nichtand headed for SW
20:57.26Chompershow many anti-Rock people tried to kill you?
20:57.43ckknightover 9000!
20:57.47Xyborg[Medivh|HoAnti-ROCK right here.
20:57.58Xyborg[Medivh|HoWell... as it stands.
20:58.00trillexI love rock.
20:58.05ramozrock rocks my world!
20:58.16Xyborg[Medivh|HoIf it would work for me, I'm sure I'd love it to.
20:58.34Xyborg[Medivh|HoBut everything associated with it fails to save my settings lol
20:58.45cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
20:58.49ramozfubar and catrographer too?
20:58.52cncfanaticsmy rock'd flexbar works god damn fine
20:58.59Xyborg[Medivh|HoYup.  Fubar and Cartographer.
20:59.11Xyborg[Medivh|HoI actually downloaded and ancient cartographer lol
20:59.35Xyborg[Medivh|HoIt gives me errors, but at least it saves my herb nodes and everything
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21:06.14Xyborg[Medivh|HoI'm looking at this MazzleUI thing.  Looks nifty.
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21:06.38sztanpetckknight any eta on when the profile copying will work?
21:06.54ckknightwhen it's done
21:07.03ckknightis it on the jira?
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21:07.54sztanpetsure it is
21:08.18ckknightalright, then, it'll get done eventually
21:08.38sztanpetokay :)
21:09.19cncfanaticson what addon ? sztanpet ?
21:09.30sztanpetpitbull, parrot
21:13.18HjalteIs it possible to find out what addon is sometimes using my who window to search random (at least they seem random to me) names?
21:15.34KemayoHjalte: Search your addons folder for "SendWho" and you'll have a list of candidates.
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21:28.09JCinDEwhen updating PeriodicTable, do I need to run pt3lod.bat or just compresssplit.lua?
21:28.20JCinDEbefore committing back to SVN I mean
21:28.40KemayoJCinDE: Just compresssplit.
21:29.13JCinDEthanks
21:29.45KemayoJCinDE: I committed an update to PT3 about 10 minutes ago -- you might want to update first to make sure there aren't any conflicts. :D
21:29.50Kemayo(Darn CIA.)
21:30.01JCinDEok
21:32.34JCinDEI actually modified dataminer a bit, too. Made it so you can specify a subset that needs updating rather than raping wowhead by updating everything.
21:33.44KemayoThat's pretty handy.
21:40.33JCinDEhere goes my first commit. hope I don't screw up. >.>
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21:42.38TNSekay
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21:42.43TNSeaddon to automatically filter spam
21:42.48TNSegief
21:42.52cncfanaticsspamsentry
21:43.24TNSenot an ace addon?
21:43.30TNSeah
21:43.32TNSethere it is
21:43.48TNSeand wowaceupdater crashes again
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21:45.20JCinDEhmm is there a delay in committing?
21:47.16TNSelets see
21:47.26TNSehow do I know if spamsentry works
21:47.30TNSebesides the obvious
21:47.38charonJCinDE: CIA sometimes lags but that doesn't really matter, and the cronjob for files.wowace.com runs at :00, :20, :40, or so i'm told
21:47.55kandarzKemayo, I pasted what I used to get abandoned quest and quest turned in which aren't part of Quixote, http://ace.pastey.net/74593 Let me know if it makes sense to you
21:48.44KazieAnyone who knows a font matching AvantaInt, just with ÆØÅ and other special characters?
21:48.57KazieIt kinda sucks when your wow chat pops ? all the time ^^
21:50.23Mecdemortanyone know how to set key bindings on a button in lua?
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21:50.34JCinDEwell my changes show up on the svn anyway. Not showing up in wua and no notification here yet, tho. Oh well.
21:50.45JCinDEwau*
21:50.49smoke_is there a gogomount ace equivlant?
21:51.05CIA-2203cncfanatics * r50320 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua FlexBar2.toc):
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21:51.36JCinDEwow irc lag
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21:52.26charonJCinDE: SVN has atomic commits so if the client tells you it's in, it's in. WAU pulls from files.wowace.com so it depends on the cronjob
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21:52.46CIA-2203cncfanatics * r50321 10cyCircled/ (core.lua cyCircled.toc plugins/FlexBar2.lua):
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21:52.53JCinDEok. Sorry to sound like a newb. I won't be one for long. ;-)
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21:57.35Stanzilla2< is bored
21:58.11sag_ich_nichtStanzilla you suck
21:58.18sag_ich_nichtwhy didn't you come to the party
21:58.28Stanzilla2which one?
21:58.48TNSe<3 spamsentry
21:58.57TNSenow it just needs a spam/minute counter
21:59.05TNSeand we can compete at who has the highest SPM
21:59.20sag_ich_nichtStanzilla2: gutrot dinged 70
21:59.28sag_ich_nichtover 9000 naked trolls party'd on aerie peak
21:59.43Stanzilla2lol
21:59.46Stanzilla2who is gutrot?
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22:00.28charonthe guy who levelled to 70 in his underwear
22:00.51charonwas all over the forums :)
22:01.13Stanzilla2o m g
22:01.15cncfanaticsgot better stuff to do tbh
22:01.30TNSehunter?
22:01.43sag_ich_nichtwarrior.
22:01.45sag_ich_nichtno weapons
22:01.48TNSeNEKKID WARRIOR?
22:01.49TNSelol
22:01.49TNSeomfg
22:01.51sag_ich_nichtyes.
22:01.51sag_ich_nichtonly blingbling
22:01.53TNSethats impossible!
22:01.55sag_ich_nichtno
22:01.57sag_ich_nichtit's not
22:02.04sag_ich_nicht!c eu aerie peak gutrot
22:02.05ThraeBotsag_ich_nicht: Gutrot, Level 69 Troll Warrior (8/41/11). 6429 HP; 682 AP; 8.79% melee crit; 22 melee hit; 5.91% dodge; 5.80% block;[[ TBR: 626 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27dosn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39ptyu ][ Updated: Sat Sep 29 08:44:09 2007 EST ]]
22:02.09sag_ich_nichtThrae
22:02.11sag_ich_nichtREFRESH THE DATA
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22:03.02TNSeso he levelled entirely nekkid?
22:03.06TNSefrom 1-70 on pvp server? :P
22:03.31ckknighthe had trinkets.
22:03.36TNSehahaha
22:03.38TNSelol :P
22:03.41sag_ich_nichtckknight: bling bling.
22:03.43sag_ich_nichthe was naked
22:03.45sag_ich_nichtbut had bling
22:04.10Kaydeethreeye gods I <3 my connection... downloading at 1.4MBps
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22:04.37Stanzilla2I'm a priest
22:04.44Stanzilla2I could do shit when I'm nekkid
22:05.17sag_ich_nichtTNSe: pve
22:05.28TNSeaha
22:05.30charonKaelten: has the ads company forced you to show ads in WAU all the time? honestly i click them much less now that they don't disappear, before the change the ad would remind me to click once every launch to hopefully generate some revenue
22:05.35TNSethat makes it slightly less impressive :P
22:05.46TNSestill, shouldn't be possible :P
22:06.38ParadoxWTB ad-less WAU :(
22:06.55HjalteParadox, the servers dont pay themselves...
22:06.59Paradoxat least put it on the top or something
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22:08.30mitchnullcan someone tell me what's on line 602 in FrameXML.lua? :)
22:08.41charon~framexml
22:08.42purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com
22:09.39mitchnullactually, it's \FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua line 602, but thanks for the link, I'll go check
22:09.47RaydenUniofficial addon?
22:09.56RaydenUnioh the api/sdk stuff
22:10.36charonmitchnull: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/ContainerFrame.lua direct link (two clicks from purl's link...)
22:10.41charonno line numbers though
22:10.59charon~cookie purl
22:12.22Speeddymon_where can I find documentation on acelibrary toc metadata?  I saw the page on wowwiki that has the known toc metadata.. but specifically, I am looking for docs on the X-AceLibrary field......
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22:14.43art3misanyone kow of a unitframe that can mimic this? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9532.jpg
22:14.47art3misknow
22:15.02sztanpetalmost any hud around
22:15.06charonah, finally figured out how to thank the bot
22:15.08charonpurl, have a cookie
22:15.09purlTa.  *Munch*
22:15.11charon!
22:15.14art3misnot any hud
22:15.29art3mismeta is the closest but it doesnt allow for X-axis target name movement
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22:18.10mitchnullphew, fixed ABP. hope baggins gets replace-orig-bags function soon, so I can switch. ABP will die sooner or later due to a patch breaking it beyond repair :(
22:18.17JCinDEisn't there a mIRC setting that eliminates idle disconnects?
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22:18.43smoke_can someone recommend me a mounting mod?
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22:19.05JCinDEmitchnull: Jower is still working on ABP as far as I know.
22:19.18JCinDEnot sure if he's updated since 2.2
22:19.22mitchnulloh, that's good to hear
22:19.46Hjaltemitchnull: But Baggins already have a Override Default Bags function?
22:19.53JCinDEBaggins does have a feature to override default bags, btw. Or did you mean just to replace the icons?
22:20.08mitchnullyeah, replace the icons with custom bags as in ABP
22:20.11ZealotOnAStickI think that's ShadowHUD?
22:20.13JCinDEah
22:20.18JCinDEbaggins doesn't even USE custom icons
22:20.25mitchnullthat's the problem :)
22:20.31mitchnullI kinda got used to it with ABP
22:20.43Speeddymon~purl
22:20.44purlmethinks purl is emo
22:20.51Speeddymon~purl cookie
22:20.52JCinDEmeh. Once I found Bartender3 I said goodbye to my bag bar anyway. heh
22:21.00QuagmireHas anyone run into problems setting RegisterChatCommand to point to your addon's options menu that FuBar uses?  When I try this, it duplicates the options in the menu that are added by FuBar.  The chat command works, but the FuBar menu looks stupid then.
22:21.18mitchnulljcin: what bag mod are you using then?
22:21.23JCinDEBaggins
22:21.26Solehmm
22:21.30QuagmireI can create a separate menu for the chat command, but I'd rather not duplicate code if possible.
22:21.35SoleNatur keeps claiming the NECB code is getting better
22:21.50Solestill looks like a huge clusterfuck to me
22:21.50mitchnulljcin: and can you open your "quest" items bag with a single click with it? (just an example)
22:22.04JCinDEonly thing about Baggins is you have to be careful making filters. It's easy to create really horrible filters that make the bags take forever to open
22:22.16JCinDEyeah actually, via the FuBar plugin
22:22.48mitchnulloh well, I still kinda like ABP's style )
22:23.09mitchnullwill give Baggins a try though sometimes
22:23.13JCinDEYeah I do too. But I love Baggins' use of PeriodicTable for building filters.
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22:23.26JCinDESO much easier to make the filters do what you want.
22:24.28mitchnullbtw, someone should really clear up the mess that is around the svn now with all those different versions of stuff
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22:24.43mitchnull(Rock/Ace2/LibStub)
22:25.11[Ammo]lucky for you you are not hindered by any knowledge
22:26.07AdysSo im not really sure why but I cant get my UI to show more than three addons' memory usagge
22:26.09mitchnull[ammo]: I was just trying to figure out which lib to check out for things to get working, and it's not readily apparent...
22:26.09Adys-g
22:26.31Adysany idea what could cause it? :/
22:26.39Lukianuse Fubar Usage?
22:26.42Adystried both with default UI and performance fu
22:26.42cncfanaticswhat event is triggered when a weapon buff is gained/lost
22:28.10Ominouscncfanatics: there isnt
22:28.14Speeddymon[Ammo]: any idea where i can find some documentation on the X-AceLibrary TOC field?
22:28.21Ominouscncfanatics: afaik
22:28.27cncfanaticsOminous, same event as regular buffs then ?
22:28.33cncfanaticsat least that triggers doesnt it ?
22:29.01Ominouscncfanatics: i dont think there is any event from it, look at blizzards buff code, the stuff for wepon buffs is in an onupdate
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22:29.18cncfanaticsOminous, sigh, what a crappy API
22:29.20Ominouscncfanatics: if i remember correclty
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22:29.33Ominouscncfanatics: it was about 6months ago i was looking at that code tho
22:29.49cncfanaticsOminous, i'll check :)
22:31.04vithosAdys: try uh, the option that sets the number of addons displayed?
22:31.09vithosAdys: in performancefu
22:32.05Adysvithos: ill check it out thanks :)
22:32.42cncfanaticsOminous, from what I can see, some parts are OnUpdate, some aren't -.-
22:32.52cncfanaticsI think I could do it without OnUpdate
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22:34.20AmadeoMy Mage is level 6, don't be jealous
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22:36.32AmadeoIs that jealousy I hear?
22:36.42Stanzilla2< is bored
22:37.25KazieAnyone here who knows where to get "Futura Futuris light" font? .. if it can be obtained for free that is :)
22:37.39MecdemortI would i know if a key i've bound gets set to something else from another addon?
22:37.44MecdemortHow*
22:38.05cncfanaticsOminous, unbelievable, specialevents-aura handles weapon buffs too, wooot
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22:41.11kandarzhow do I create new keybindings using just lua?
22:41.33cncfanaticskandarz, its easy
22:41.43kandarzexample anywhere?
22:41.48mitchnullspellbinder
22:41.55cncfanaticsSetOverrideBindingClick(self.Frame, nil, Key, self.Frame:GetName());
22:41.57cncfanaticsthats my code
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22:42.13cncfanaticstry http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/Keybindings/Keybindings.lua
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22:42.37kandarzand that will show up in the key bindings window?
22:42.39Mecdemortwhats the diff between SetOverrideBindingClick and SetBindingClick
22:43.10Ominouskandarz: afaik you need to use a bindings.xml for that
22:43.19Mecdemorthow how would i know if another addon overrode my binding so i can update my button's keybinding text
22:43.53Mecdemortwow I just can't type today
22:44.01Ominouskandarz:  http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_Bindings.xml_to_create_key_bindings_for_your_AddOn
22:44.41cncfanaticskandarz, u can't make it show up in the keybindings window
22:44.51cncfanaticsMecdemort, setbindingsclick is saved by blizz
22:44.54cncfanaticsoverride ain't
22:45.00cncfanatics(thats the only diff that I know of)
22:45.24smoke_can someone recommend me a mount addon replacement for gogomount?
22:45.29Mecdemortah ok, but what about knowing when you've been overridden
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22:48.29Mecdemortwith all the addons that use keybindings you'd think thered be more information
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22:52.41Amadeolol
22:52.47Amadeohttp://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/newsletter/2007_09/PAX0907_05.jpg
22:52.57AmadeoLooks like The Undertaker...on twinkies
22:53.34cncfanaticsdoes GetWeaponEnchantInfo return rank is "Rank 1" or 1 ?
22:53.58cncfanaticsnvm
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23:01.03Kemayosmoke_: MountUp?
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23:02.29xyuughhhhhh,  8 steamvault runs today, for devilshark....
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23:02.33xyuthat cloak is a MYTH
23:02.34xyutrue story
23:02.52kaideni see it drop all the time :P
23:03.01xyuomg die :(
23:04.53NimbleRabitDoes anyone know what could be causing my mousebutton 4 and 5 to not work in WoW?  I can set them (in my mouse drivers) to act as something else like ctrl or alt and then they work, but I can set them to act as themselves in wow (can't bind something to "Mouse Button 4")
23:07.08charonOS?
23:07.11NimbleRabitxp
23:07.44charonhm, only hint i have is xfire or whatever it's called, some of my guildmates said something about disabling that
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23:08.10LukianNimbleRabit, uninstall your mouse software ^^
23:08.39NimbleRabitLukian: ok I'll try
23:08.42NimbleRabitI tried updating the drivers
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23:08.46NimbleRabitdidn't try just getting rid of them
23:10.31Fisker-oh hi
23:10.49FathersinCk around by any chance?
23:11.21Fisker-nah
23:11.29Fisker-calvin klein doesn't visit the channel
23:11.38KazieHow come i can't add Pitbull to my Fubar?
23:11.57Fathersinthat's good i'm not looking to buy any smelly stuff anyways
23:12.03Fathersinit's in rock
23:12.06KazieDeuce Commander can't find it either.. only that freakin' lame ROCK configuration thing in Fubar finds it
23:12.16KazieRock sucks..
23:12.29Fisker-any objective reason why?
23:12.30Fathersinit's werkable
23:12.43Fathersini prefer the old way mayself
23:12.47NimbleRabitrock is a slower way to do things
23:12.49KazieI simply don't like working with my addons in such a big window
23:12.59KazieI like the usual popups much more
23:13.04Fisker-wasn't slower to me :P
23:13.07Fathersini can list a fw reasons ik don't like rock
23:13.13Fathersinfew*
23:13.16NimbleRabiteverything in rock just takes a bit longer because the window is so big and you have to move your mouse around a lot more
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23:13.32NimbleRabitthe small popup windows are far simpler and better
23:13.35Kazieexactly NimbleRabit
23:13.40Fisker-<-niagara whore
23:13.43KazieAnd far more faster to work with
23:13.43Grummeh just farmed 27 primal manas
23:13.44Fisker-i only setup my addons once
23:13.45JCinDESVN noob question: How do you force a mod to update its externals?
23:13.45Fisker-that's it
23:14.12GrumJCinDE: update in what way?
23:14.15Grumchange versions?
23:14.15KazieJCinDE: Download WAU and update WITH externals
23:14.17Fathersini can't setup once
23:14.17Fisker-i thought it did that each time you updated
23:14.45KazieAnyways.. did you guys know how to add pitbull to fubar?
23:14.46Fathersini have three 70's and each one is setup differnt
23:14.54Fisker-unless you're explicitly telling it to update without externals
23:14.59Fathersini don't think you can
23:15.05JCinDEhmm. I committed changes to PT3 and they show up in the PT3 lib in WAU but not in Baggins
23:15.05Fisker-then you setup 3 times and that's it :P
23:15.06GrumKazie: by default its on fubar afaik
23:15.36KazieThat's the thing grum... it's not :s ... i can't add it, not on minimap, if i use /pitbull that fucking rock thing pops my face
23:15.37liquidzooKazie: The new Pitbull is using the Rock configuration menu instead of a fubar icon/menu
23:15.48Fathersinlol i wish i could just setup three times... i have to fix this or that later on.
23:15.58KazieIn that case Pitbull out - DuF in
23:16.02Fathersinlittle tweak here little tweak there
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23:16.24NimbleRabitLukian: didn't work, thanks anyways though =/
23:16.25Grumlol
23:16.34GrumRock config isn't *that* annoying ;D
23:16.36ckknightto everyone who is bitching: I frankly have stopped caring. You're all just whining and whining and I just do not care anymore.
23:16.37themaneanyone know an addon to move all minimap addon icons?
23:16.45KazieRock IS that annoying
23:16.55ckknightso go fuck off, I don't care if you use something else
23:16.57ckknightthat's that.
23:17.00Grumhehehe
23:17.00ckknightnow stop bitching.
23:17.04NimbleRabitlol
23:17.08Fathersinheh
23:17.11Arcaiarock is e-mazing, haters haven't tried it long enough to see.
23:17.14ckknightI've had fucking enough.
23:17.24GrumKazie: if you find it *THAT* annoying, switch to something else (older version orso)
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23:17.50ckknightand it's not just that you're bitching, it's that you're bitching without giving any solutions (for the majority's sake, at least)
23:17.53Solelol DUF
23:18.07Fathersini'm not tryin to bitch about it judt say my disliks cause of my own preferences
23:18.09ckknightI do this as a hobby
23:18.16Arcaiawtf is DUF?
23:18.17ckknightI'm not obligated to fill your every desire
23:18.17NimbleRabitI would think pointing out why we don't like it would be the same as solutions.  I don't like it because it's huge so solution = smaller window
23:18.21JCinDEI don't hate Rock. Dewdrop was really tough to use for really deep config systems. Rock gives that a bit of stability.
23:18.21ckknightso either put up or shut up
23:18.27Grumckknight: you are!
23:18.27SoleArcaia: discord
23:18.29GrumPLEASE ME >.NOW
23:18.36Industrialme neither
23:18.37Industrial:(
23:18.42Fisker-:(
23:18.47Sole:(
23:18.50Arcaiadiscord is useless
23:18.58JCinDEckknight: are you planning to discontinue the use of Dewdrop entirely?
23:19.02Solewhoever is bitching about Rock needs to put a cock in it
23:19.04ckknightno
23:19.07LukianGrum, what happened to your addon? :D
23:19.10GrumNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
23:19.11ckknightwhich is why I hate people bitching
23:19.13ArcaiaRock w/ Ace2 Option Tables - FRIGGIN E-Mazing.
23:19.15KazieSorry for "bitching" but why are the user not given the options of choosing to go without rock?..
23:19.18Grumi'm having problems with RockConfig :D
23:19.21Soleckk has put a lot of fucking hours into it
23:19.25Grumbut its not a good time to start about it hehehe
23:19.27JCinDEIt's just a matter of using each for its strengths, right?
23:19.27SoleKazie: because its his fucking addon
23:19.28cncfanaticsKazie, use another addon then
23:19.29Arcaiabecause its his fucking mod collection
23:19.31ckknightKazie: because why should you be? it's lots of extra work for me
23:19.31cncfanaticsur USING HIS addon
23:19.32Arcaiaif you cant understand that
23:19.34SoleKazie: and its his fucking framework
23:19.37Arcaiayou shouldnt be using addons
23:19.46RogueShadowI used to hate dew drop, then I got used to it.   Liked it.    I am giving rock config a chance.  After doing so, it is getting easier, I am trying to come up with constructive idea's for improvement where needed.  And also am discovery nice little things that it does that are really cool.
23:19.51ckknightor: you can pay me $40,000/year
23:19.56ckknightI'll be happy to write whatever you want
23:20.10Lukiancheap!
23:20.15JCinDEya really heh
23:20.23ckknightyes, it is, but I live a cheap lifestyle
23:20.35ckknightbut donations don't come even close to reaching that.
23:20.38RogueShadowI'd be happy with 40k a year.  :)
23:20.39JCinDEit's enough to pay the WoW bill and that's what matters!
23:20.53ckknightRogueShadow: if you come up with any legitimate improvements, file it on jira under Rock
23:20.56SoleWoW is trash...when youre not addicted
23:21.19RogueShadowckknight, naturally.  :)   But I wouldn't want to sumbit something I haven't given some thought.
23:21.25ckknightgood times.
23:21.29FathersinCk mind if i ask you a quick question?
23:21.32Fathersinor two
23:21.33ckknightokay
23:21.39RogueShadowRight now i'm pre-occupied with pc woes
23:21.49Grumckknight: if i'm handling a multichoice RockCOnfig option, what would be the best way to handle a compisite key i have to remember? just storing a table as key?
23:21.57ckknightcomposite key?
23:21.58Grum*composite
23:22.04Grumi need to store multiple values
23:22.18ckknightwhat's a composite key?
23:22.23Grumwell ..
23:22.50Grumi'm making a dropdown where I show, type+subtype+count
23:23.01Grumand i have to store that data so that i'm able to know what the users selected
23:23.16ckknightoh
23:23.25CartasAny C#/.NET experts in here?
23:23.27ckknightwell, my recommendation: type .. ";" .. subtype .. ";" .. count
23:23.28ckknightas the key
23:23.33ckknightCartas: I'm pretty good at that
23:23.36JCinDEseems to be a common convention
23:23.52Grumatm i'm doing it like: choices[ {type,subtype,count} ] = "magic user string"
23:23.54CartasI'm trying to publish my "project", and it comes out as some amazingly bad .application.
23:23.55ckknightGrum: messing with tables-as-keys can be icky
23:24.09CartasDo you know how I can get it to be a proper installation where I can choose which directory it installs to?
23:24.09Grumyeah but deconstructing it might as well
23:24.11ckknightCartas: okay, not used to stuff like that. You're in IDE-land
23:24.25CartasAh, sorry! :o
23:24.31CartasKnow anyone else who might know, old chap?
23:24.46Grumckknight: hmmz i rather not write some splitting/joining script
23:25.04ckknightlocal type, subtype, count = k:split()
23:25.09ckknighthwait
23:25.10Stanzilla2wtf is that http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1129/wowscrnshot093007012350gh5.jpg
23:25.12Fisker-i don't think .applications are supposed to have a customizable installation directory
23:25.19ckknightlocal type, subtype, count = (';'):split(k)
23:25.21ckknightthat's it
23:25.24Grumsomething else, when you have a multichoice is there any way to give aliases to the strings shown
23:25.29CartasHow do I make my C# program work like any NORMAL installation, do you happen to know, Fisker-? :o
23:25.30Stanzilla2sylvanaar: is that a prat problem? http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1129/wowscrnshot093007012350gh5.jpg
23:25.38CartasI don't want some crappy .application :(
23:25.39Grumbecause when you select one, the values get concatted in the 'dropdown line'
23:25.45Fisker-Don't publish it
23:25.53CartasWhat can I do? :o
23:25.58Fisker-compile it and use a 3rd party/no installer
23:25.58Grumand i have rather long items in the dropdown itself .. so having short aliases for em would be .. well . useful :D
23:26.08CartasHmm...
23:26.17Fisker-~seen sylvanaar
23:26.19purlsylvanaar is currently on #wowi-lounge (8h 51m 57s) #norganna (8h 51m 57s) #wowace (8h 51m 57s). Has said a total of 35 messages. Is idling for 8h 10m 19s, last said: 'they work fine'.
23:26.31Fisker-when sylvanaar is back he might know some more specifics to doing that
23:26.51Fisker-I'm not that familiar with the Visual Studio stuff yet
23:27.00CartasAh, okay. Thanks old chap! :)
23:27.19RogueShadow*unrelated topic* Yay no lockups so far! ... so far?..  :(   Perhaps I have discovered the cause of my woe's and am well on my way to restoring pc functionality.. *end unrelated topic*
23:27.42LukianRogueShadow, grats?
23:27.54RogueShadowLukian, Thank you.
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23:31.51CIA-2203jcinde * r50325 10FuBar_TrackerFu/ (FuBar_TrackerFu.lua FuBar_TrackerFu.toc):
23:31.51CIA-22FuBar_TrackerFu
23:31.51CIA-22- RESURRECTED!
23:31.51CIA-22- Uses Dewdrop for secure actions now.
23:32.22JCinDESo does anyone know the magic mIRC setting to stop getting disconnected for being idle?
23:32.37Grummirc doesnt do that?
23:33.00silentiumJCinDE: my mirc has always done automatically, no settings needed
23:33.19Grumi dont even think you can set it up to disconnect when you are idle O.o
23:33.23JCinDEhmm wonder why I keep getting booted
23:33.49silentiumdo you know the generated quit message?
23:34.02Grum[01:12:40] * JCinDE (n=jcinde@c-76-116-131-42.hsd1.de.comcast.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection)
23:34.08JCinDEI get * [10101] Host disconnected
23:34.41sztanpetisnt your connection being dropped, not mirc disconnecting
23:34.59JCinDEwonder why
23:35.07CIA-2203funkydude * r50326 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Sapphiron: bugfix :x
23:35.09Grumpick another server closer to home
23:35.12JCinDENothing else loses connection.
23:35.13sztanpetconnection to your isp i mean
23:35.19sztanpetoh
23:35.34Grummissing 1 ping/pong is enough to get booted
23:35.35JCinDEor maybe other things are just better about reconnecting
23:35.49JCinDEI should probably see if I'm dropping packets
23:35.50Arcaiawtb pie.
23:35.55Grumi got pie!
23:36.01silentiumno, it's not the internet connection, that would result in a "ping timeout" or "Connection timed out"
23:36.04Arcaiaprice?
23:36.09Grum12coppir ofc
23:36.23JCinDEit only does it when I'm idle. Never when I'm active
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23:38.11CIA-2203funkydude * r50327 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: Scrap Kothnok's method, use a better one, and make shadow text optional.
23:38.18Ominoushey Mr Fin
23:38.23Finhey ho!
23:38.30RogueShadowthe chipset fan on my motherboard is totally. dead.  I am not sure if I should worry about that.
23:38.39silentiumJCinDE: kornbluth.freenode.net is the server I usually use, it's located in frankfurt so you should get a pretty stable connection there
23:40.23JCinDEwhere is niven?
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23:41.09JCinDEoregeon
23:41.10silentiumoh, seems I misinterpreted the "de" in your nick and hostmask
23:41.13JCinDEyikes...oregon
23:41.21JCinDEoh heh
23:41.23JCinDEDelaware =)
23:41.25silentiumhttp://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml has a list of freenode servers
23:41.35JCinDEyeah I'm looking it over now
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23:41.41JCinDEnothing on the east coast
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23:45.29silentiumsilly americans, using the german TLD in their host names to confuse me ;)
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23:45.50JCinDElet's see if this is any more stable
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23:50.43art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/metal.jpg
23:50.44JCinDE*tap* *tap* Is this thing on?
23:52.05JCinDEokay I don't think se a lower version.'
23:52.05JCinDE* Set by ckknight on Mon Se
23:52.08JCinDEack!
23:52.24ckknightum, what?
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23:52.36Finwhat ho!
23:52.48JCinDEnot sure how that got into my clipboard sorry
23:56.00vithosckknight: can you think of any way i could add "Est." before a health readout in dogtags if the value is estimated by mobhealth3 or similar?
23:56.12ckknighthrm...
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23:56.17ckknightthere is a proper way...
23:56.32sylvanaarFisker- i dont know ask fin he was changing the editbox module
23:56.41Finhello!
23:56.51sylvanaarhi Fin
23:56.52ckknightvithos: [SureHP] only works if MobHealth3 is working on the mob
23:56.56ckknightstart from there
23:57.16ZealotOnAStickckknight: Black Temple map for Cartographer please?
23:57.44Fin~seen fisker-
23:57.47purlfisker- is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowhead #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 186 messages. Is idling for 30m 56s, last said: 'I'm not that familiar with the Visual Studio stuff yet'.
23:57.48cncfanaticszealots on a stick don't have rights
23:58.01Finwhat about the stick?
23:58.08vithos[SureHP] works for party members doesn't it?  though i guess that could be a way to do it
23:58.10Finwon't somebody please think of the sticks
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23:58.55FinFisker-: hello!

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