IRC log for #wowace on 20070928

00:00.00QuantumDeltaThreat-1.0 - Updated to rev WITH Externals 49704.8
00:00.06QuantumDeltaFixed? :<
00:00.08Towbarand i switched from item rack to closet gnome
00:00.23Towbarmissing the old alt item select in char pane but thats it
00:00.34CIA-2203bashui * r50092 10CatPoints/libs/: CatPoints libs folder
00:00.48*** join/#wowace colabean (i=Apples@d206-75-63-236.abhsia.telus.net)
00:00.59colabeanthere an upgrade to arena fu anytime soon?
00:01.14QuantumDeltaeh
00:01.17LetheKai|AwayOkay I give, is there a way to put the Pitbull doggy icon back on Fubar? Hehe.
00:01.31Stanzilla2DurabilityFu is br0ken
00:01.43Stanzilla2it always shows 100%
00:01.46colabeanwhats a good arena pvp addon besides arena fu and gladiator and arena master :P
00:02.32Towbararena pointer
00:02.45Towbarsmart queue
00:02.47NivFreakmman
00:03.01NivFreakI need to figure out how to get the gladiator frames out from under fubar ;)
00:03.02Ellipsisnymbia: no BG or anything
00:03.03CIA-2203ckknight * r50093 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - add possible fix to the whole querying talents with a traling dash (from messed up UnitName)
00:03.06kenlyricStanzilla2: mine works fine.
00:03.07Ellipsisjust normal groups
00:03.12NivFreak(I haven't tried very hard)
00:03.16Towbaralt left click drag it
00:03.24EllipsisStanzilla2: I don't use WIM
00:03.33NivFreakTowbar: but that doesn't work anywhere on the frame does it?
00:03.35Ellipsisand durabilityFu just doesn't update, there's a post about it
00:03.38Towbarat the top
00:03.47aestili'm not sure how to combine the 2.
00:03.51NivFreakTowbar: the top is hidden atm, but I'm sure I can move fubar :)
00:04.06Towbarniv jsut drag them to the other end of the screen
00:04.12NivFreakyep
00:04.16Towbartop <-> bottom
00:04.21NivFreakis there a test mode?
00:04.25Towbarno idea
00:04.28NivFreakhaha
00:04.40NivFreakI guess i'll screw with my UI during a match this week
00:04.44TowbarI am usually too busy killing when its up looking for the purple name to nuke :D
00:04.54NivFreakpurple name?
00:04.55NivFreakheh
00:04.57Towbarwarlock :)
00:05.00NivFreakah
00:05.00Towbarhaha
00:05.02NivFreakhaha
00:05.15NivFreakwarlocks are not a class I have issues with
00:05.18NivFreakthey die rather easy
00:05.20Ellipsisthank god for nightfall procs
00:05.25Towbarunless properly sapecced for it
00:05.30LetheKai|AwayDoes anyone know a quest tracking mod similar to MonkeyQuest? I really like it - a lot - but figure I should switch to something with Ace2 for ease of updating and stuff.
00:05.34Towbarbut most are pve just there for weapons
00:05.51durcynLetheKai|Away: switching for ease of updating is crap, don't do it.
00:05.53NivFreak31/30 undead warriors are a bit of a nightmare for locks
00:05.57NivFreak;)
00:06.00EllipsisLetheKai|Away: QuestsFu or nQuestLog depending on your tastes
00:06.03kandarzal'ar fixed? us archimonde is restarting
00:06.04LetheKai|AwayDurcyn: No reason not to if there's a mod as good.
00:06.11Towbarniv :)
00:06.35Towbari love camping MS warriors now in eots and wsg etc, its so nice seeing a warrior try run from you
00:06.42Towbarbleeds and poison ftw
00:06.55Towbarunless he is 5/5 merc with maces
00:06.57NivFreakI kill more rogues as prot than I do as MS
00:07.09NivFreakoddly
00:07.20Towbarsame with me and pve gear and pvp
00:07.27Towbarsurvivability > dps
00:07.36NivFreakdoesn't help much vs casters
00:07.43Towbarhate frost mages
00:07.47NivFreakyea
00:07.49NivFreakthey rape me
00:07.51Towbarnothing i can really do as pve 19-42-0
00:07.54LetheKai|AwayDurcyn: Besides, doesn't look like MQ updated since 2.2 and I'm getting that mouseover error for my bags still, thinking it might be MQ.  =(
00:07.57Stanzilla2*reads Antiarc interview*
00:08.12TowbarI cant seem to get prat - channel reording options
00:08.15NivFreak1vs1 SLDL locks destroy me though
00:08.18GnarfozLetheKai|Away: easily fixed
00:08.20aestilcan I have 2 functions in 1 eePanels script? and have the 1st Function be a resize script and the second function call the first one when a specifc event fires?
00:08.24Towbarits grayed out enabled sort on load
00:08.38GnarfozLetheKai|Away: http://www.toctastic.net/hlw/topic.php?id=54
00:08.59colabeanI hope they update arena fu.. fu is pretty popular
00:09.36hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/102k.jpg
00:09.41hyperChipmunk/frames it
00:09.52Towbarok another question, how in the hell do i make the gradiant reverse direction?
00:10.09LetheKai|AwayCool, thanks Gnar.  =D I checked toctastic.net but don't frequent their forums.
00:10.11Towbari have tried everything, loving eepanels btw
00:10.35*** join/#wowace slug3 (i=slug@planet.of.theco.ws)
00:10.48KemayoWhat's the opinion of SWStats?
00:11.17KemayoLetheKai|Away: I would recommend QuestsFu.  But I wrote it, so that's to be expected.
00:12.19Gnarfozmy opinion of SW_S? "Recount is superior and doesn't mess with your combat log strings" ;>
00:12.28*** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@60-234-130-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz)
00:13.52Towbarrecount is awesome
00:13.58Towbarreally astounding
00:14.13*** join/#wowace Vires|afk (n=vires@69-77-205-221.gwtc.net)
00:14.51JoshBorke<PROTECTED>
00:15.05NivFreakhow does recount compare to recap
00:15.08TowbarI used to to show our 4 part t5 rogues why I was owning them on boss dps
00:15.21aestildoes recount have the ability to make a segmented timeline that you can look at later?
00:15.26Towbarhit rating ftw :)
00:15.35JoshBorketry it out
00:15.41*** join/#wowace Dhouu (n=auake@212.25.35.110)
00:15.44Towbarrecount lets you look at teh last 5 fights
00:15.50Towbarand total data
00:15.58Towbarbut its so detailed its amazing
00:16.12*** join/#wowace seXemplar (n=nnscript@124-171-194-104.dyn.iinet.net.au)
00:16.48*** join/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@ppp-209-77-230-153.dsl.chi2ca.pacbell.net)
00:18.54KemayoCan recount read SW_Stats / Damagemeters data?
00:19.43Towbarit doesnt have too
00:19.51Towbarit reads everything in a 200 yards radius
00:20.03Towbarso it doesnt really have to sync
00:20.12Towbarhowever I am using both atm
00:20.31NivFreakI just use WWS afterward, and recap for quick fight stats
00:20.42Towbari used to use recap
00:20.53NivFreakso how does recount compare?
00:20.56*** join/#wowace Pazza (n=john@pool-72-89-187-136.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
00:20.59Funkeh`I recommend assessment over recount, doesn't sync at all reducing the amount of spam in the sync channel
00:21.02Funkeh`in game wws basically
00:21.03Towbarbut then I started moving everything I could over to ace addons due to that simply wonderful updater
00:21.23Towbarwhat is assesment?
00:21.25NivFreakI'll give assessment another shot
00:21.34NivFreakit was pretty immature when I tried it last
00:21.40NivFreakI think about 2 weeks old
00:21.41NivFreakhehe
00:22.01Funkeh`http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t15983-assessing_situation_tag_based_meter_analysis/
00:22.11Arrowmasterheh durabilityfu is broken in 2.2
00:22.15Towbarthanks
00:22.20Towbaryea totalyl!¬
00:23.08NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: it is? o_0 appears to be working for me...
00:23.13*** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@ppp-209-77-230-153.dsl.chi2ca.pacbell.net)
00:23.36Stanzilla2Arrowmaster: yup its broken
00:23.37KarlThePagandurabilityfu is intermittant for me :/
00:23.44KarlThePagansometimes updates but usually doesn't
00:23.52KarlThePaganunless I'm totally on crack
00:23.58Towbari cleared SSC tonight and had 95% dura!
00:23.58Arrowmasternot updating at all for me
00:24.12Stanzilla2I tried updating it to LibFubarPlugin-3.0 but no success :(
00:24.13NightHawkTheSaneI haven't noticed any issues with it. *shrug*
00:24.17Towbarthen reagent restocker says it cost me 32g to repair
00:24.29Arrowmasterlol
00:25.11Towbarany Omen developers here?
00:25.30KodyAs a matter of fact, the fine Antiarc is here in the channel
00:25.33Funkeh`Towbar: Antiarc
00:25.39Towbarawesome addon mate
00:25.44AntiarcThanks :)
00:25.48Towbarreally cool
00:25.58hyperChipmunkhey, Antiarc
00:26.02Towbarits great for fights like kael with so many adds
00:26.03hyperChipmunkyour addon blows
00:26.07Towbarlol
00:26.09hyperChipmunkyou're a failure
00:26.12AntiarchyperChipmunk: So does your mom. Blows me.
00:26.14Towbarone thing though
00:26.16Antiarc>;[
00:26.40AntiarcSure, whatcha got?
00:26.55Towbarif someone is using KTM, and that target dies and we switch to another target, their threat still remains and so the scale of the bars gets all weird
00:27.15Towbaris my only option ignoring KTM data?
00:27.21rob`Basically :(
00:27.27Arrowmasteror gkick
00:27.29hyperChipmunkor lynching the ktm user
00:27.30Towbarhehe
00:27.36hyperChipmunkyea
00:27.41Towbarthinking more heroic pugs abd stuff
00:27.46Wobwor1http://www.gucomics.com/comics/2007/gu_20070807.jpg
00:27.47Towbarand*
00:27.47Wobwor1so true
00:27.49AntiarcBasically, yes. I can't really control the data KTM sends, and it's not necessarily correct to clear that threat since there may be another mob of the same name.
00:28.09Wobwor1Kenco is going to fix that
00:28.12Wobwor1in the next version
00:28.20Towbarwhat happened btw with that
00:28.20Wobwor1which will probably come out the same time as MrPlow2
00:28.25Stanzilla2Kenco is gay
00:28.27Stanzilla2btw..
00:28.28Towbarhe wouldnt let you post to ktm data or?
00:28.30Stanzilla2*hides*
00:28.31nymbiait will check every second
00:28.37nymbiamany times
00:28.42*** part/#wowace Dhouu (n=auake@212.25.35.110)
00:28.48AntiarcTowbar: Mostly just refused to work with me to create a good solution
00:29.03Towbarmeh
00:29.11Towbarin it for the glorey not the scene
00:29.28Towbarhe is probably just annoyed he couldnt / didnt do it
00:29.34AntiarcI'm in it because I just want a damned working threat meter that doesn't eat my framerate for lunch :P
00:29.44Towbarsingle target aggro is so helpful
00:29.57Ellipsishmm
00:30.04Ellipsisis there something weird with threat on Arcatraz Sentinels?
00:30.43EllipsisI keep pulling aggro when I'm at like 1/4th of the tank's threat bar o.o
00:30.49Andunemy guild leader kept getting upset I was running Omen instead of KTM, when I said, what's the big deal?  It shares the data.  It's more accurate.  and I can actually play since it doesn't eat my fps.
00:30.50Towbaryou a mage?
00:30.52Ellipsislock
00:30.54Towbarpyro pulls?
00:30.58Towbarahh ok
00:30.59Towbar:P
00:31.19Anduneso I told him, hey, if it bothers you, you can /gkick me.  gkick or Omen, your choice.  He left me be.    <3 Omen
00:31.34Antiarcheh
00:31.36Towbarit owns KTM in everyway
00:31.58AnduneI can always find another guild.  But I sure as hell aint goin back to KTM  :P
00:34.21rob`Most of our guild is using Omen now.  As one of the main tanks I'm tempted to just turn off KTM and let the few remaining people QQ or switch.
00:36.35Towbarwe had it on trial for a while running both concurrently
00:36.45Towbarand GM now says its required
00:37.18Towbarbut there are a few ppl who couldnt install an addon to save their lives
00:37.38*** join/#wowace silentium (i=silentiu@dslb-088-064-178-011.pools.arcor-ip.net)
00:37.44kenlyricand you think thosepeople can raid?
00:37.50KarlThePaganrogues
00:37.51kenlyricfaceroll dps?
00:37.52KarlThePagan;)
00:37.56KarlThePaganyea pretty much
00:38.05KarlThePaganor bm hunters ;)
00:38.12Andunenice to see it getting face time on curses 'hot downloads'.  Maybe someday soon it'll pass up KTM on the list  :)
00:38.28*** join/#wowace Tsikura (n=tsikura@user-0cev19g.cable.mindspring.com)
00:38.35KarlThePaganI'm seeing the *'s in my Omen slowly go away
00:38.49KarlThePaganwe require KTM or Omen... i think every officer has switched
00:39.40KarlThePaganrequire a threat meter, a boss mod, and a CTRA replacement
00:40.07Arrowmasterso is the ingame voicechat enabled now or can i just not find the options for it anywhere on live
00:40.08KarlThePagannot sure why on the last one... i don't think we've used CTRA functions in a long time
00:40.21KarlThePaganArrowmaster, depends on your realm
00:41.17IndustrialKarlThePagan: really?
00:41.18Industrialhow?
00:41.38IndustrialI also can't find it - I'm on a PVP realm. Why would that have to do with voice settings tho :S
00:42.18Wobwor1I guess the tank windows and stuff are useful
00:42.35KarlThePaganIndustrial, it's a slow rollout... most realms don't have it enabled
00:42.44Wobwor1yeah
00:42.53Wobwor1Industrial: aren't you eu, or have you shifted?
00:42.59KarlThePaganwob - oh yea... I guess I do use CTRA functions ;)
00:43.19KarlThePaganor ... at least my realm doesn't have it :(
00:43.32Wobwor1Most realms don't
00:43.33Arrowmasteri dont think my realm has it
00:43.39Arrowmasteri cant find the options for it
00:43.40Wobwor1and eu is rolling out next week
00:43.57Wobwor1US is rolling out sometime this week I think
00:44.38*** join/#wowace dsire (n=dsire@c58-107-116-116.livrp1.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
00:45.36KarlThePaganI have no hope for my "terrible 20" server
00:46.00KarlThePaganI plan on spending at least a few hours trolling Ogrimmar on Dragonmaw in <KJ IS DOWN AGAIN>
00:46.03IndustrialWobwor1: im eu
00:46.15Industrialoic
00:46.44dsireI'm using x-perl addon atm, I would like to continued on using that addon but would like to change the player potrait back to the orginal WoW one. Anyone know how I go about in changing it back to default wow potrait?
00:48.32*** join/#wowace Pazza (n=john@pool-72-89-187-136.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
00:52.25Recluse*ponders* i'd like to see a mashup addon providing functionality of recommendedzone and lightheaded to present a list of quests you can/should do based on level
00:52.44aestilneed help with eePanels script i wrote that fails.  http://ace.pastey.net/74493
00:52.47aestilanyone?
00:52.49CIA-2203funkydude * r50094 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua:
00:52.49CIA-22BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council:
00:52.50CIA-22- add enrage timer... which doesn't work currently because I lost the engage trigger. :)
00:54.07*** join/#wowace seXemplar (n=nnscript@124-171-194-104.dyn.iinet.net.au)
00:55.27Trell_mmm does BigWigs have any BG functionality - thats what I liked about DBM - on the rare occasions I actually did bg's, I could see timers for different things, capture points, respawns etc etc
00:55.34Trell_or do I need to get another addon for that
00:55.43Funkeh`Trell_: Yes, capping.
00:56.05Trell_thankyou.
00:58.23*** join/#wowace Stanzilla (n=Stanzill@p54997D5D.dip.t-dialin.net)
00:58.56Trell_Buffalo or Elk?  I don't see a current wiki page for Buffalo :'(
00:59.17Towbarstill using DBM for that
00:59.34Towbarand it has a few bars bigwigs does not have
00:59.39Trell_im currently using Elk
00:59.43Trell_like, Towbar?
00:59.54Towbartoys on kael fight
01:00.00Towbarfor everyone not just warriors
01:00.13Trell_ah thats ok then, we're not there yet.
01:00.19Trell_I'll cross that bridge when we are
01:00.20Towbaremm
01:00.21Funkeh`It works for warriors, druids and tank paladins
01:00.33Funkeh`You don't need that info for any other class its jsut spam bars
01:00.37Towbaralso seems to be slightly more accurate on the leo fight for whirlwind
01:00.38*** join/#wowace irandamay (n=chatzill@c-24-60-68-159.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
01:00.45Towbaryes we do need it
01:00.57Towbarour hunter and bear tank cannot be toyed
01:01.05Funkeh`It works for bear tanks
01:01.06Towbarwhen we start phase 3
01:01.13Towbarnot for us it didnt
01:01.23Towbarphase 2*
01:01.29Funkeh`Did for us, strange
01:01.31Towbaremm there was another one
01:01.35Towbarsec i think
01:01.40Funkeh`But I can add hunters I suppose
01:01.50Towbaryou code bigwigs?
01:01.57*** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanmor@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
01:02.01Funkeh`Yeah I'm one of a few developers
01:02.06aestilmodesty
01:02.06Towbarawesome addon :)
01:02.21Towbarits mandatory for raiding in our guild
01:02.23Towbar:)
01:03.06Towbari am really trying to think but i know there are a few fights where I get a little more info from DBM
01:03.16Towbarbut primarilly I use DBM for pvp BG's
01:03.59sbFunkeh`: mh - btw - leotheras timer from DBM seems to be pretty accurate while bigwigs is 5s off :/
01:04.09Towbaryea
01:04.36Towbarand when the difference is a 2k tick for me its nice
01:05.23Towbarso what classes have you being reported in toys?
01:05.29Towbarwarriors & druids?
01:06.02the-golemBigWigs?
01:06.12Towbarbtw the reason we need our hunter is because he effectily tanks teh bow
01:06.16Towbaryes bigwigs
01:06.21Towbarthe*
01:06.26Towbarmeh i hate this new keyboard
01:06.30the-golemlol
01:06.33the-golemi hate mine too
01:06.38Towbara pint of guinness killed my old one :(
01:06.43the-goleminserts spaces half the time when im not even near a space abr
01:06.45the-golembar*
01:06.48Towbarlol
01:07.07Funkeh`sb: I don't understand, it happens 5 sec after the bar expires? Its a cooldown measurement
01:07.15Funkeh`Towbar: use Capping for timers
01:07.19Towbarbefore the bar expires
01:07.21Funkeh`pvp
01:07.23sbwell no, it happens while the bar is still visible ;o
01:07.30Funkeh`Really?
01:07.34Funkeh`hm
01:07.34sbsometimes, yes :/
01:07.35Towbarfor us, yes
01:07.36the-golemFunkeh`: gimme a rundown on BigWigs
01:07.38the-golemor
01:07.44the-golemi'll find it on the ace site
01:07.47the-golem*searches*
01:08.03sband dbm seems to be _really_ accurate here ;o so perhaps no random cooldown?
01:08.43Towbaralso
01:08.50*** join/#wowace Corgan (n=nowai@cpe-66-91-7-141.hawaii.res.rr.com)
01:08.56Towbarcan you make a feature that when you shift click a bar it reports to the raid?
01:09.12Towbarsomeones i use DBM shift click to remind teh raid on something they always seem to forget
01:09.16*** join/#wowace seXemplar (n=nnscript@124-171-194-104.dyn.iinet.net.au)
01:09.55the-golemso bigwigs is like dbm?
01:09.59Towbaryea
01:10.04*** join/#wowace koiron (i=koiron@ip24-255-33-63.tc.ph.cox.net)
01:10.05Towbaronly better
01:10.10Towbarand much easier updated :)
01:10.17Towbarand MUCH more frequently updated
01:10.18the-golem:-)
01:10.22Towbar:D
01:10.43Towbarbut i still use DBM to tell me when to take teh food out of the oven for dinner
01:10.45Stanzilla2dbm has a svn versions now
01:11.04Funkeh`Towbar: BW has pizza timers also
01:11.19Ellipsisever heard of, like, an oven timer?
01:11.21Funkeh`Towbar: BW bars as made to be transparent clickthrough
01:11.23Ellipsisyou know, the one on the oven
01:11.23Towbarsvn is like beta airways... and interesting flight but I am much less likely to have a crash by not flying with them :)
01:11.32*** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@adsl-76-226-94-167.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net)
01:11.46Funkeh`sb: Would be nice to get a transcript :)
01:12.19sbFunkeh`: mhh - i'll try :o tomorrow...
01:12.20Towbaryes but could you make a modifier key to raid report in /raid?
01:12.30sbtranscriptor still working?
01:12.33Towbarlike shift click? or is that messy?
01:12.36Funkeh`sb: yes
01:12.45Kemayockknight: Alt-click doesn't seem to let you interact with locked tablets now...
01:13.01*** part/#wowace YourMomsHero (n=cirish@74.202.196.195)
01:13.21*** join/#wowace Paradox (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust10.bagu.broadband.ntl.com)
01:13.53Towbarquestion, completely unrelated:
01:14.00Towbarwasz talking to our MT tonight
01:14.30Towbaris there anyway to make a macro / addon that when he is spamming heroic strike, it will see if he is below 10% hp and cast last stand?
01:14.34Towbarwas*
01:16.00Towbarit was just a thought I had whist trying to get a mate web developer to download teh dev pack and get addon writing
01:16.12CIA-2203jncl * r50095 10Skinner/ (5 files): Skinner: Added options for the newly added Chat Menu skinning
01:16.15Ellipsisno Towbar
01:16.21Towbarrecently got him moved over to ace addons and he is loving it
01:16.33Towbaraww well :)
01:16.50Ellipsisalthough he could configure SCT/Parrot to pop up a big alert in his face when he hits 10% or whatever
01:16.50Towbarjust have to reply on the potentially stoned dutch dude to hit the right key :)
01:16.54Towbarrely*
01:17.04Ellipsisor even play a sound to wake him up
01:17.06Towbarahhh now thats a nice idea!
01:17.16CIA-2203archarodim * r50096 10Decursive/ (QuoiDeNeuf.txt WhatsNew.txt):
01:17.16CIA-22Decursive:
01:17.16CIA-22- Update to WhatsNew.txt and QuoiDeNeuf.txt for official 2.0.3 release.
01:17.24Towbarhow can you do custom SCT for that
01:17.38Ellipsisdunno, I don't use SCT
01:17.52Towbarlow health warning is the only thing I can think
01:17.57Towbarand set it to 10%
01:18.12Trell_2 questions; Capping can't be config'ed through Rock?  And also, Prat's feature that outputs any text with your name in ut to a popup window; how can I move/scale/generally edit the popup window?
01:19.07Arrowmastermag seems stealth nerfed
01:19.35EllipsisArrowmaster can tell from some of the pixels
01:20.27*** join/#wowace cogwheel (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
01:21.01KebinusanArrowmaster: Hydross seemed nerfed.. he was much more forgiving on transistions if people screwed up and got aggro and pulled him across the flags
01:21.02Funkeh`Trell_: no, /capping
01:21.04*** join/#wowace NavrasU1 (n=NavrasUS@acad240229.eastdorm.uic.edu)
01:22.21Arrowmasterthe cube channeling isnt doing as much damage on mag
01:22.28sbohh SGA tomorrow :o
01:22.41Funkeh`sb:  ?
01:22.48sbstargate atlantis :o
01:22.52Ellipsiseww stargate :P
01:23.44*** join/#wowace Adys (i=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-68-169.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr)
01:24.07Towbaryea SGA!
01:24.16Towbarhouse last night too
01:24.20Towbarhouse MD
01:24.26Towbarand heroes the night before
01:24.58*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)
01:25.24Towbarbtw i used prat channel reordering and set 5 to <AceComm> and so far it seems to be working
01:25.37Towbar*crosses fingers*
01:25.56Towbarwhat is that channel used for?
01:26.03Towbarout of interest
01:27.55Towbar1 min av queues
01:28.00Towbarahhh av weekends :)
01:29.17Towbaranyone think they nerfed solarion HP or armor last patch?
01:29.29Towbarbecause we got her to 66% for 1st split
01:29.36Towbarusually 70ish
01:29.42Wobwor1oh man
01:29.43Wobwor1av weekend
01:30.02KemayoGosh, I didn't realise that Cartographer wasn't actually usable now it's switched to Rock.  >_>
01:30.29Towbarits working fine for me
01:31.16KemayoIn the sense that clicking the "Cartographer" button on the map pops up the rock config window instead of the dropdown.
01:31.58Antiarcckknight: ping
01:32.01KemayoWhich I guess is more of a downgrade than actual non-usableness.
01:32.25hyperChipmunkall rock addons got that
01:32.27EllipsisQQ
01:33.03hyperChipmunkisn't it wondermaful?
01:33.12Trell_!p recipe: savory deviate delight
01:33.13ThraeBotTrell_: Name: Recipe: Savory Deviate Delight; Vendor: 1s 15c; Deposit (24h): 69c; Auction (All): 75g [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]]
01:33.34KemayoSituationally.
01:33.41wodenis there an ace trinket menu mode eqiuvalent folks?
01:34.25hyperChipmunkno
01:34.32hyperChipmunktrinketmenu is perfect as it is
01:35.06wodenaha friend was just looking for one for ease of updaet
01:35.09wodenok cool ta
01:39.32RogueShadowconvince him to host it on ace?
01:41.01durcyn"ease of update"... total laziness, you mean
01:41.22RogueShadowI imagine there are more update tools out there, that make laziness possible even if it's not ace.
01:41.36Andunehmm.  party members on cart map used to be colored according to class.  not anymore.  did it get moved to an option I need to enable?
01:43.46ckknightblame Blizz
01:44.51*** join/#wowace kuraii (n=th30ry@CPEa4b4c4d4e4f4-CM001225d89932.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
01:44.58Ellipsisman jira is a mess
01:45.15Ellipsispeople don't bother looking to see if their errors have already been posted or anything
01:46.22Anduneckknight:  fair enough.  I got no problem placing blame there  ;)
01:46.36ckknightannoying more than anything
01:46.40ckknightI'll likely fix it soon
01:46.42ckknightbusy right now
01:46.47ckknighttoo many people bitching at me from all sides
01:47.12Ellipsispoor ckknight
01:47.13Anduneno worries.  Just was curious if it was an option change I could go flip on.  Glad to know what caused, I'm sure you'll fix it when you can.  thx
01:47.17EllipsisI wish I could help >_>
01:47.36ckknightand I'm almost sure the issues would go away if they just stopped bitching in most cases :-P
01:47.48ckknightin some, there are legit bugs (e.g. Cart not coloring stuff)
01:48.32Funkeh`ckknight: What did they change?
01:48.44ckknighthaven't checked yet, I'm busy
01:48.50Funkeh`alright
01:48.55Ellipsisis there any way to moderate jira tickets without being the project owner?
01:49.08Funkeh`Its wierd ebcause if you hover over the player it shows <level><class> and class is coloured properly
01:49.12hyperChipmunkyea
01:49.20hyperChipmunkbe kaelten
01:49.23Funkeh`Just not the map icon
01:49.24Ellipsiskk
01:49.31EllipsisI'll work on that hyperChipmunk
01:49.37RogueShadowOut of appreciation, I'll leave ckknight alone  ;) way to go bro
01:52.33*** join/#wowace Cidan (i=feh@conspiracy/developer/Cidan)
01:52.41*** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
01:59.58RogueShadowckknight, major props on the statusbar texture previews.
02:00.09ckknight*thumbs up*
02:00.33RogueShadowPerhaps I'll discover more cool things as time goes on.  But that was awesome.
02:00.59ckknightbut it's obviously not good with all the anonymous idiots shouting that it's "RETARTED"
02:01.01ckknightetc.
02:01.25Ellipsisoh thanks for reminding me RogueShadow, another thing to post on jira XD
02:01.38*** join/#wowace ennuilg (n=ennui@89.129.154.79)
02:02.17RogueShadowI'm wondering if selectbox's like the texture thing shouldn't vanish when you click somewhere else. hmm
02:03.30RogueShadowMaybe I'll try to come up with some things for jira, you know, besides repetative bugs.
02:03.33dylanmSure they should.
02:04.04RogueShadow~ArkInventory
02:04.22RogueShadow~Ark Inventory
02:07.19*** join/#wowace cogwheel (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
02:09.53Mecdemortis there any way to target someone with a raid icon? like target the person with skull on them
02:10.03Arrowmasterno
02:10.15Mecdemortdidnt think so
02:13.17buuIs al'ar fixed these days?
02:14.13sedai|what can i replace the auctioneer package with from acemods?
02:14.28NavrasU1KC_Items for the most part i believe
02:14.59sedai|ah ill look into it thanks
02:15.10hyperChipmunk[Illamena]: That Rabbit guy ... He should like name his addons after things Rabbits like ... Like cottonball ... Or Fluffytail ... That'd be so cute
02:15.13hyperChipmunk[Mnithrosil]: rabbits like cottonballs?
02:15.15ggilbertWhat about auctioneer do you use and what do you dislike?
02:15.16hyperChipmunk[Illamena]: well, to shred them and sleep in them ... CarrotMod2.0 ... aww
02:15.24hyperChipmunkvhaarr: --^
02:16.00*** join/#wowace chuckg (n=chuckg@c-71-202-18-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
02:16.49*** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost)
02:16.49*** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ
02:17.15cchomeis tattle broken?
02:19.04colabeanya wth is this Rock .. and whats it packaged in?
02:19.22Ellipsis~rock
02:19.22purlwell, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out
02:21.06CIA-2203antiarc * r50097 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:
02:21.06CIA-22Threat-1.0:
02:21.06CIA-22- Properly unregister parser events when we disable a pet/player module. Fixes problems with pet threat skyrocketing like what. Should also help curtail some minimal excess table creation.
02:21.30JoshBorkeAntiarc: fix threat!
02:21.36JoshBorkeactually, i think you did =)
02:21.48JoshBorkecause i haven't gotten the bug
02:22.07Reclusein multiple addons (inc those using sharedmedia) am i the only one who oftentimes gets no sound output, even after a successful PlaySoundFile() call? (pre 2.2 i had no issues)
02:26.09Arrowmasterwow has a whole new sound system now
02:26.11Arrowmasterand it sucks
02:26.56Pazzais PlaySoundFile() not working anymore?
02:26.59*** join/#wowace abug (n=ABUGABUG@c-71-59-82-173.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
02:27.16Arrowmasterit works
02:28.36Pazzayour not the only one Recluse... users of WIM are reporting the same problem.
02:29.41Reclusewell, testing someTestVar = PlaySoundFile(whatever) shows success, and i'm getting like a ~5-10% successful audible playback of sounds from both my addon and avion
02:29.46PazzaAlso getting a lot of error dumps showing AceCom and ChatThrottle breaking SendAddonMessages in regards to channel WHISPER
02:30.08ReclusePazza: at least it's not just my box/install XD
02:30.16*** join/#wowace nogudnik (n=nogudnik@mail.exiter.com)
02:30.39PazzaThis patch reminds me of crap blizz put out years ago
02:31.02PazzaAnd im getting such inconsistent results sometimes.
02:32.12Recluseyep, not the only one lol http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778045933&sid=1
02:32.14MrUsefulURL: WoW Forums -> PlaySoundFile() problem...
02:33.07RogueShadow~Sanity2
02:34.08*** join/#wowace faCe| (n=f@pD955BC6F.dip.t-dialin.net)
02:35.44vithosAntiarc: immediately after a reloadui [2007/09/27 21:33:31-166-x1]: Threat-1.0-49504 (Threat-1.0):951: attempt to index local 'playerModule' (a nil value)
02:36.14AntiarcHrm. That's not good.
02:36.49AntiarcWhat does another /rl get you?
02:36.54vithosthe rest of the raid is in combat with leotheras, i'm standing around outside doing nothing
02:37.06*** join/#wowace kaiden (n=kaiden@c-71-197-188-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
02:37.11vithosi /rl'ed twice and it did it both times
02:41.05*** join/#wowace Synyc (i=Pug@74-135-144-0.dhcp.insightbb.com)
02:42.17CIA-2203funkydude * r50098 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua:
02:42.17CIA-22BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz:
02:42.17CIA-22- implement new debuff scanning system to give timers and warnings for resistances (drycoded, untested. Please give forum feedback)
02:43.16Funkeh`Antiarc: I also noticed the new mob system failing
02:43.32Antiarc?
02:43.37Funkeh`e.g. at Reliquary of souls people were starting with large threat attached to the mob that jsut spawned
02:44.02Funkeh`Mainly global threat iirc
02:44.07Synycany authors on? I have a quick question
02:44.09AntiarcI've noticed that happening occassionally - it's on the list to look at
02:44.14*** join/#wowace Chaoslux (i=Shana_3@ppp58.39-205-205.netc.net)
02:44.21Ellipsis~asktoask
02:44.21purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
02:45.34Synyck, I wanna write an addon for bartender 3, is it possible to open the bt3 bars from a seperate addon?
02:46.00Ellipsiser, well you could look at the code to see how you can interact with the bars
02:46.15Ellipsiswhat exactly is this for?
02:47.16SynycI want to emulate the (dont kill me) DAB control boxes. It would help, IMHO alot of ppl to minimize their onscreen space, by using atext box, or perhaps even a graphic
02:48.29xyuhmm is it possible for addons to have a memory leak?
02:48.50xyumy memory just constantly goes up and up.  it's now at 124 MB and increasing :D
02:49.05RogueShadowI should think so.
02:49.19RogueShadowPerformanceFu
02:49.22xyuI have it
02:49.26xyuand it's all under "Ace2"
02:49.37RogueShadowic ic
02:49.47cchomeanyone use Tattle?? is it broken??
02:50.17EllipsisSynyc - sorry, I'm not familiar with DAB control boxes, what exactly do they do? o.O
02:50.19*** join/#wowace ennuilg (n=ennui@89.129.154.79)
02:50.27Mirehey all, question, whats a good ace mod for tooltip to folow my cursor?
02:50.39durcynfor just that, LitheTooltipDoctor
02:50.51durcynand CowTip does that and then some
02:50.56Ellipsiseesh, xyu, whatever addon you just installed/updated, get rid of it o.o
02:50.59SynycElli: they gave you a text box you could click on to open an action bar(for non combat stuff like mounts/buffs...ect)
02:51.24EllipsisI see.
02:51.26SynycYou could save a ton of space with it and define the size of the bars
02:51.33Ellipsisthere are already addons that do popup bars
02:51.44Ellipsisso you can hover/click on one button and it expands to show the rest
02:51.57Solewhat addons?
02:52.02Soleme and wobin tried doing that
02:52.04EllipsisKlappa does it
02:52.05Solethe shit was frustrating
02:52.14Solemaybe we were too ambitious
02:52.18EllipsisI made an attempt at it too, but failed pretty quickly
02:52.22Ellipsisit's not as easy as it looks
02:52.38AntiarcAnyone know of a good way to check an addon's TOC number?
02:52.39Soletried doing popup bars and sprocket-esque circular bars
02:52.42SynycYes, BUT, im picky. I want it semi customizavle, so anyone could integrate it with their addon.
02:52.46Solecircular bars with multiple levels
02:52.56Soleit hurt the brain
02:53.04EllipsisI see, Synyc, so it would work with multiple action bar addons?
02:53.19Ellipsiswow Sole, way to make it hard on yourself :P
02:53.34Synycyes, once i got it to work with BT3, i assume, i could hook into most any bar addon to call up their actionbars
02:53.36Solewell wobin managed to get the circular bars going
02:53.39Solewith multiple levels and all
02:53.49Ellipsismakes sense Synyc - good luck :)
02:53.59Solewhats synyc trying to do?
02:54.00Funkeh`Mother enrages at 10% right?
02:54.13Ellipsisturn any action bar addon into a popup action bar addon, if I'm understanding correctly
02:54.24Solewhy not just make your own?
02:54.32SynycSole : control boxes for most addons
02:54.34EllipsisFunkeh`, your mom enraged last night if you know what I mean
02:54.56SoleEllipsis: you need a dick to drop ym bombs
02:55.05Funkeh`Ellipsis: Thats because she found out you spent the night in my bed.
02:55.18EllipsisSole: oh, my bad, can I borrow yours? :P
02:55.33EllipsisFunkeh`: you liked it though, don't lie
02:55.52Funkeh`Ellipsis: Only when you're bad.
02:55.52SoleEllipsis: maybe
02:56.08Ellipsisoh I'm a bad, bad girl
02:56.27Soleyou dirty slut
02:56.36Ellipsishey now
02:56.43Sole:D
02:56.46EllipsisI prefer the term woman of loose morals
02:57.02Soleyou prefer the hot beef injection
02:57.05Funkeh`Ellipsis: Same time tonight?
02:57.09Synycfree spirit sounds better
02:57.16*** join/#wowace Meiun| (n=xface@h24n2fls31o883.telia.com)
02:57.52EllipsisFunkeh`: sure thing, do you want me to bring the handcuffs again?
02:58.04Funkeh`Ellipsis: The whip, also.
02:58.09Ellipsisyes sir ;)
02:58.53Ellipsisrawr
02:59.03Ellipsistalk nerdy to me baby
02:59.40*** join/#wowace brisket (n=nate@c-76-99-105-233.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
02:59.59Funkeh`Ellipsis: Been meaning to ask you this for a while now, been pretty shy though, but I reckon, fuck it, just gonna come out with it.
03:00.18Funkeh`Ellipsis: Does Mother Shahraz enrage at 10% ?
03:00.29Fisker-around Funkeh` never relax
03:01.01brisketi recently updated my wowace mods, and now ive gotta deal with this "rock" configurator every time i want to change a setting in any addon, its causing me alot of problems anyone know how to turn it off?
03:01.19RogueShadowbrisket, shh
03:01.20Fisker-stop it
03:01.20NavrasU1can't
03:01.22Funkeh`brisket, yeah, delete WTF, WDB and interface
03:01.29NavrasU1lol
03:01.29RogueShadowwarned you...
03:02.44brisketno im serious, i wanna know what addon put that shit in there so i can delete it, its annoying as hell
03:03.03Funkeh`Whats anoying about it mate?
03:03.50RogueShadowbrisket, trust me. don't do it.
03:03.55GngskI'm pretty sure he's talking about rock
03:04.12*** join/#wowace Meiun| (n=xface@h24n2fls31o883.telia.com)
03:04.19RogueShadowDo you like FuBar brisket?
03:04.22Gngskremove fubar, cartographer, pitbull, parrot
03:04.26Gngskpretty much any of ckknight's addons
03:04.26RogueShadowcowtip too
03:04.27brisketi play on multiple realms, so i change my clock_fu time alot and everytime i right click the clock on my bar just to change the stupid time by dragging a slider ive gotta dig through this stupid config addon i DIDNT choose to install and its annoying
03:04.38RogueShadowah he gone and said it.
03:04.39RogueShadowFu
03:04.41RogueShadow"Fu"
03:04.52*** part/#wowace ennuilg (n=ennui@89.129.154.79)
03:04.54*** join/#wowace a-stray-cat (n=chris@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
03:04.56RogueShadowI'll save ckknight the pain and trouble  "Get used to it"
03:05.08Gngskor don't upgrade and don't worry about it
03:05.15ckknightor use someone else's addon
03:05.19ckknightall three are viable
03:05.26*** join/#wowace ennuilg (n=ennui@89.129.154.79)
03:05.29brisketmeh, deleted then
03:05.33RogueShadowActually, if you don't upgrade, it's bound to break in a few patches...
03:05.39Funkeh`Hold on, FuBar addons are no longer accessible through FuBar?
03:05.46brisketif it doesnt help me what good is it
03:05.50GngskI'll worry about that when it happens.
03:05.52ckknightFunkeh`: what do you mean by that?
03:05.54a-stray-catat the rate patches go though, a few patches is like a year!
03:06.03Funkeh`ckknight: I mean, is that what he is saying?
03:06.13ckknightno, ClockFu opens up the Rock Config thing
03:06.15ckknighthe doesn't like it
03:06.18ckknightbecause he's lazy or something
03:06.23*** join/#wowace Seerah (n=chatzill@adsl-156-60-101.mem.bellsouth.net)
03:06.27Synycbasically
03:06.39brisketits obstructive and annoying, i didnt choose to install it, its like AOL in a wowaddon
03:07.06brisketyouve basically created the bane of a good, low memory, efficent wowace mod, and then made it wowace
03:07.08SeerahI'm assuming I just logged on in the middle of a RockConfig whine fest? ;)
03:07.14ckknightbrisket: your criticism is not constructive.
03:07.18Seerahit's not
03:07.23ckknightand actually, it's still quite efficient...
03:07.24hyperChipmunkit is, however, spot on >8\
03:07.52SynycCK, i like rock, is it going to have a global profile for all addons under it, so it will auto config them all? *really started playing wiht it today)
03:08.13ckknightaddons have separate profiles
03:08.20Synyckk
03:08.48brisketoh yeah, theres also a bug in it, i set it to not show the worldmap icon and its still showing and doing the mouseover for cartographer
03:08.49abugit rocks
03:09.06kandarz[Ammo], any reason I'm not able to move Cooldown Monitor and Res Monitor for oRA2?
03:09.24ckknightbrisket: doing the mouseover?
03:09.24Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2043944639&pageNo=4&sid=1#66 <-lol again
03:09.35Fisker-someone banned for 3 days for spamming /train
03:09.41Seerahack! jira link is gone from the front page or I'm blind :(
03:09.48Seerah<PROTECTED>
03:09.53Seerah<- fail
03:10.01kandarzjira.wowace.com
03:10.08Wobwor1It's obviously the shortbus, for Seerah, not the train =P
03:10.17Seerahhush, you!
03:10.28Funkeh`~fail Seerah
03:10.28purlSeerah: Fail.
03:10.40CIA-2203antiarc * r50099 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Shaman.lua Threat-1.0.lua):
03:10.40CIA-22Threat-1.0:
03:10.40CIA-22- Change Spirit Weapons from 0.15 threat reduction to 0.3. Only active for versions 2.3.0 and later.
03:10.42Funkeh`~love Seerah
03:10.42purlIf you love Seerah so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
03:10.45Seerah~lart Wobwor1
03:10.45purljudo chops Wobwor1
03:10.50Funkeh`it?!
03:10.53Seerah~lart Funkeh`
03:10.53purlsays "boot to the head" and knocks Funkeh` over
03:11.22SeerahI'm an *it* now?!?
03:11.31brisketyeah, the feature where you mouse over the icon on the minimap and it brings up the worldmap
03:11.48brisketi turned that off even in rock, and it still shows
03:12.30abugwater shield triggers one charge when dispelled right?
03:13.31Arrowmastereither its a bug or they buffed priest res
03:13.38Seerahme hugs Funkeh`
03:13.44Seerahfail again :(
03:13.52Funkeh`aww ;p
03:14.01SeerahIt's been a long day :P
03:14.12brisketis there any way that you can change the cartographer/rock settings so that when i click the cartographer button in the worldmap i still get the dropdown menu, instead of forcing us into using the AOLaddon
03:14.33hyperChipmunkbrisket: FuBarAce
03:14.42hyperChipmunkor the old tags
03:15.15hyperChipmunki'm sure a carto equiv will be along sooner or later
03:15.21Wobwor1FuBarAce is pretty much the old tag anyway
03:15.32hyperChipmunkbut you can still use the pre-rock tag, of course
03:15.44Speeddymondamn issues with onebag!!!
03:15.46hyperChipmunkthat's the beauty of svn
03:15.56hyperChipmunkif it ever existed, you can still use it =)
03:16.29abugeven when a large rock collides with earth?
03:16.30AntiarcAnyone here familiar with the mechanics of Lightning Overload?
03:17.16hyperChipmunkin this case, yes =x
03:17.35*** join/#wowace Dustwhisper- (n=ask@78.80-202-20.nextgentel.com)
03:19.10Wobwor1Antiarc: what sort of info do you need?
03:19.25AntiarcWobwor1: What the combat log looks like on a Lightning Overload proc
03:19.44Wobwor1Ah, that I can't help with =)
03:19.59*** join/#wowace Vegeta (n=Vegeta-G@85.8.89.117)
03:20.00AeyanIt looks identical to casting the spell
03:20.08AeyanSo it's rather hard to tell from viewing a log
03:20.21Wobwor1Don't you get a notification?
03:20.23AntiarcOkay. So the only way to tell is time delta?
03:20.24AeyanNope
03:20.33AeyanIt just goes off again
03:20.44AeyanAnd potentially again and again, etc =P
03:21.24Seerahsoo...... who wants to write out the changelog for my Seerah's Suitcase for me?.......  >.>
03:21.28*** join/#wowace [newbie] (n=Stanzill@p54995618.dip.t-dialin.net)
03:21.52Wobwor1Changelog 29/09/07: Stuff.
03:22.01Seerahstill need to update, make sure everything's working, redo the eePanels (switch to 2...)
03:22.03Aeyanhaha
03:22.03Seerahle sigh :D
03:22.10Seerahthere we go, Wobin!!
03:22.22Seerahif only I weren't so thorough...
03:22.23Wobwor1Changelog 29/09/07: Added in extra compartment. Moved all contents to an Armani suitcase.
03:22.38Seerahoooh... I can afford that now?
03:22.40Wobwor1Changelog 29/09/07: Now with extendable handle and wheels for faster transport
03:22.51AeyanThat's why you should only make UIs for yourself =P
03:23.21Seerahit's for my hubby and friends, too
03:23.52RogueShadowMine changes every 10 minutes usually, so maybe when it stays the same for say.   a week I'llc onsider it good enough to publish
03:25.02SeerahI always try out new things or use buggy/beta mods... So I don't even use all of SS anymore
03:25.50AeyanI get bored with mine very quickly
03:25.57AeyanMake a new one every month or so
03:26.12Seerahoh yeah - I'm always changing the layout/design around
03:26.37AeyanI try to keep it slim, but there's always seem to accumulate more and more mods that happen to do cool schtuff
03:26.43AeyanCan't deny my cool schtuff
03:28.34RogueShadowI decided to try out XLoot and BulkMail today.
03:28.41Gngskthoughts?
03:28.42RogueShadownot bad
03:29.13Seerah<3 XLoot
03:29.15AeyanI use xloot for nothing more than shiny
03:29.28AeyanNo practical reason really, hehe
03:30.22RogueShadowI have noticed the shiny
03:30.24RogueShadowI like
03:30.49GngskI been having some werid thing with bulkmail where a tekcompare item tooltip will show up with a thousand ratingbuster stats under it after I shift open an item from mail
03:31.19AeyanThat reminds me I meant to demo ratingsbuster
03:31.27AeyanAlways been sort of scared of it
03:31.37Wobwor1Ratingsbuster is great
03:31.39AeyanAll I want is a rate conversion
03:31.50Wobwor1although I don't know if it's been updated to account for haste changes
03:31.50AeyanBut it's got all sorts of other tools bundled in
03:31.53Gngskseems as if baggins is causing the bug, I disabled it and the huge tooltip disappeared
03:32.05Gngskdid someone report that to narggidley yet?
03:32.10irandamayany other hunters here notice that the demons at leotheras aren't responding to growl from pets?
03:32.10RogueShadowso somebody got banned for spamming the train emote?
03:32.14RogueShadowis that what i'm hearing
03:32.38Wobwor1http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2043944639&pageNo=4&sid=1#66
03:33.14RogueShadowbecause..... from what I read about the policies on realms... if you can avoid it yourself, they don't do anything at all.
03:33.42Gngsk72 hour ban, big whoop
03:33.46Seerahunless they changed it, you cannot /ignore emotes
03:34.21RogueShadowoh? hmm
03:34.31RogueShadowDoes the disable emote optiond isable them
03:34.43Seerah"however using the /train emote 126 times in 38 seconds is a bit excessive and that is why you were actioned. "
03:35.02RogueShadowgood typist maybe lol
03:35.22Seerahahh... they had prior history with Blizzard and were at the point where they got banned
03:35.25Seerahmacro
03:35.40Seerah*suspended*
03:36.20hyperChipmunki do for i=1,100 do DoEmote("cluck") end to get the chicken quest
03:36.35RogueShadowAye, it does seem to make sense when thought is applied.
03:36.36hyperChipmunkO_o
03:37.08hyperChipmunkwhat i want to know is why it took 38 seconds to go through a loop of 126
03:37.37SeerahI'm sure they're not as smart as you in the scripting department... :P
03:37.41RogueShadowPerhaps it doesn't work so hot without a delay
03:37.48Seerahlike I said - it was probably a macro
03:38.31Wobwor1~126/38
03:38.31purl3.315789473684
03:39.27hyperChipmunkno, dude; you don't need a delay
03:40.34RogueShadoweasily done just by typing it in
03:40.37RogueShadowand using history
03:41.02hyperChipmunktype '/run for 1=1,10 do DoEmote("clap") end'
03:41.02Lukiantest
03:41.16hyperChipmunker
03:41.21hyperChipmunktype '/run for i=1,10 do DoEmote("clap") end'
03:41.52hyperChipmunki mean
03:42.01hyperChipmunkif you were really wanting to cause some spam
03:42.07hyperChipmunkthat's the way to do it
03:45.41*** join/#wowace Ra1d3n (i=killspam@90.146.59.38)
03:47.43RogueShadow[22:45] *** Ra1d3n (i=killspam@90.146.59.38) joined  talkin about spam?   killspam?
03:48.45Ra1d3nlol
03:49.06Ra1d3ni dont clearly understand the question
03:49.28RogueShadowthat's o
03:49.31RogueShadowit was kinda weird
03:49.40Ra1d3ni wasnt talking about spam to nobody lately
03:49.45RogueShadowWe just were
03:49.50Ra1d3nand i wasnt talking in this chan for a while
03:49.52RogueShadowbut when killspam showed up, the discussion ended
03:50.02Ra1d3nhahah
03:50.11Ra1d3nthats just my gmx filter adress
03:50.21Ra1d3nkillspam@gmx.at
03:50.24*** join/#wowace Zapht (n=Zapht@65.48.76.10)
03:50.31Ra1d3nsaves me a spam filter
03:50.32CIA-2203treibh * r50100 10BigBrother/ (7 files):
03:50.32CIA-22BigBrother:
03:50.32CIA-22- added quickcheck option to just report people without buffs
03:50.32CIA-22- added FuBar plug-in support
03:50.32CIA-22- added AceDB support to save settings
03:50.33CIA-22- updated Flasks
03:50.34Ra1d3nsoftware
03:50.35CIA-22- updated deDE localization (needs another update!)
03:50.53RogueShadowcool
03:51.04ZaphtAnybody know of an Ace (Or non aced) mod that will show me the cast bars of my party? I 5 box (1 priest, 4 mages).. And it would be usefull to see the casting bars for my mages.
03:51.24*** part/#wowace nogudnik (n=nogudnik@mail.exiter.com)
03:51.28RogueShadowPitbull does.
03:51.29Ra1d3ni guess pitbull can do that
03:51.37Ra1d3ndamn, beat me to it
03:51.38ZaphtAhh pitbull can? Thanks
03:51.44GngskI figured all decent unit frames could do that these days
03:51.46ZaphtI've been using Grid for party frames.
03:51.48RogueShadowYou might be able to get it to show only that. but it does everything
03:51.53SpeeddymonAnyone else here using OneBank and having the item tooltips for the stuff stored in the bank itself (not a bank bag) show "Empty Slot [0 Slots]"
03:51.56Speeddymon?
03:52.07SpeeddymonUsing the current revision
03:52.15Ra1d3njust enable castbars in the partyframes
03:52.51SpeeddymonAG_UnitFrames can do that as well
03:52.57Speeddymonbtw
03:54.29*** join/#wowace Tsikura (n=tsikura@user-0cev19g.cable.mindspring.com)
03:55.23RaydenUniwhy do people sometimes refer to the group member being attacked as "george" ?
03:55.41CIA-2203funkydude * r50101 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua:
03:55.41CIA-22BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz:
03:55.41CIA-22- Rename Enrage > Berserk
03:55.41CIA-22- Add 10% enrage warnings
03:55.43Aeyan.....?
03:55.49RogueShadowuh?
03:56.35helgetmaybe bacause that group member sometime's named george? :)
03:56.48RaydenUnimaybe its just on priestlyendeavors.com
03:57.40RaydenUniooh, pws will get +heal and +dmg
03:57.47RaydenUni+ shadow?
03:57.54RaydenUniif not, that will make shadow priests very sad
03:59.11Aeyan=(
03:59.22Aeyanand I imagine just +dmg
04:00.01*** part/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@24-236-181-169.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com)
04:00.14RaydenUniyeah
04:00.16RaydenUniwhich sucks
04:00.19*** join/#wowace mixm (n=n@81-233-51-173-no58.tbcn.telia.com)
04:00.30RaydenUnishadow priests use it just as often as holy priests
04:01.36*** join/#wowace Ellipsis_ (n=ellipsis@cpe-76-168-204-11.socal.res.rr.com)
04:01.46CIA-2203durcyn * r50102 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother: fubar's nice and all, but let's not force it on people. set hideWithoutStandby = true
04:05.45*** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=NEXT96@121.129.140.141)
04:12.14QuantumDeltabrilliant
04:13.02Mecdemortwhats the difference between 'target' and 'playertarget'?
04:13.11CIA-2203funkydude * r50103 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua:
04:13.11CIA-22BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council:
04:13.12CIA-22- add the engage yells, thanks to wowwiki
04:13.17*** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
04:14.20SpeeddymonMecdemort: prob target can be mob and playertarget is another player.. or target is your target and playertarget someone else's target..
04:14.34Speeddymoni'd have to see the context to be able to say for sure
04:15.03Mecdemortwowwiki says "The currently targetted unit." for both
04:15.38*** join/#wowace Gamefaq (i=Gamefaq@pD9527474.dip.t-dialin.net)
04:16.04Gamefaqwuuusaaa good morning :)
04:17.14CIA-2203antiarc * r50104 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua:
04:17.14CIA-22Threat-1.0:
04:17.15CIA-22- Added 2.3-activated handling for Lightning Overload. Currently uses a
04:17.15CIA-22time-based method to locate procs; not sure how it will behave under laggy
04:17.15CIA-22conditions. I don't think it'll be a problem, but it's worth keeping an eye out
04:17.15CIA-22for it anyhow.
04:18.16AntiarcAll caught up with 2.3 changes now.
04:18.38AntiarcThough I'll need to do testing to determine the additional threat for MS/BT once the PTR goes live
04:19.41Mecdemorti cant believe they already released 2.3, theres so many problems with 2.2
04:19.48Antiarc2.3 isn't out yet
04:19.56Mecdemortwell i mean the notes or w/e
04:20.01Mecdemortplanning it
04:21.06Gngskwhat's wrong with 2.2?
04:21.20Gngskand I'm sure they're already planning 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8
04:21.27durcynuh.. alar, illidan, supremus, god knows what else
04:21.41Mecdemortwe had reliquary of souls spawn 2 several times in a row
04:21.49Gngskyou're right, that is so many problems!
04:21.57durcynit's nonzero.
04:22.38Mecdemortbuggy sounds, instances constantly crashing and not letting you zone in...
04:22.43NavrasU1what game this size ever has zero problems?
04:23.13*** join/#wowace Kreiger (n=Kreiger@ool-44c1b8f4.dyn.optonline.net)
04:23.27Gngskyarly, anyone who has played since release knows these types of problems aren't really anything new
04:23.46*** join/#wowace Pazza (n=john@pool-72-89-187-136.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
04:23.46Mecdemortthats not really an excuse to rush a patch that introduces more
04:23.48Kreigerhey guys. WAU has every single one of my add-ons out of date. were you guys just really busy, or is that what cronan was doing yesterday by updating the ToCs?
04:24.04AntiarcBit of A, bit of B
04:24.12KreigerThey are all safe to update tho?
04:24.20Gngskyour definition of rush is pretty uncharacteristic
04:24.21AntiarcWell, WAU is always a gamble ;)
04:24.46KreigerAntiarc, why is Wau a gamble?
04:24.53*** join/#wowace Thrae (n=Thrae@pool-71-179-86-35.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
04:24.54AntiarcBecause it's built off of SVN
04:25.04AntiarcAnd therefore has a tendancy to be bleeding-edge
04:25.33KreigerI;m more concerned with maliciousness then buggy stuff
04:25.41Ra1d3ni like bleeding edge
04:26.26Mecdemortmmm smell the blood
04:27.21SpeeddymonAntiarc: was that threat change in trunk or branches?
04:27.27AntiarcTrunk
04:27.37AntiarcIt's activated by client version number though
04:27.41Speeddymonoh ok
04:27.49AntiarcSo it's behaving as normal in 2.2, and will automatically switch to the new behavior in 2.3
04:27.59KreigerOh, antiarc, omen is yours, right?
04:28.02AntiarcYeah
04:28.12Kreigeryeah. i had a question about if you don't mind.
04:28.15AntiarcCertainly
04:28.46KreigerI started a warlock. When i send my void, it hashim at X threat. usually a fairly high amount. Then, while according to omen i am below him on threat, i pull off of him.
04:29.07AntiarcYeah, warlock pet scaling is way off at lower levels
04:29.09KreigerI assumed that omen, while solo with a pet, automatically split so i could watch for that point and maintain void aggro.
04:29.18AntiarcI keep meaning to go back and reverse engineer it,but I haven't yet
04:29.23AntiarcIt's Torment, specifically, that's off
04:29.32KreigerYeah. it shows my void at like 1k tps
04:29.49Kreigerand i'm like "um.. no way is that right.. i can't even do that on my 70 prot warrior
04:29.57CIA-2203funkydude * r50105 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua:
04:29.57CIA-22BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz:
04:29.57CIA-22- add a spam protection system for debuff scanning.
04:30.20KreigerSo i should just l2control aggro? since i'm an aff lock who
04:30.27AntiarcFor now, yeah
04:30.30Kreigers stacking spell damage, it's not like anything can really kill me.
04:30.35Kreigerbut i was curious.
04:30.39AntiarcVW threat scales horribly
04:30.49AntiarcSo don't expect it to even hold aggro if the threat meters were right :)
04:30.58*** join/#wowace treibh (n=tfoottit@CPE001310e97d1c-CM0012c90ffdfc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
04:31.05AntiarcHowever --
04:31.09aestilAntiarc: !!!! :D
04:31.12AntiarcI just made a fix to pet threat in general that should make it more sane
04:31.28KreigerWell, i generally can tell when i'm gonna pull, from running with him alot. i wasn't sure it if was an omen thing, or pet thing, or what
04:31.37AntiarcOmen thing. Sorry :)
04:31.47KreigerNot a huge deal. i still love it.
04:32.02KreigerOmen's made quite a name for itself lately, you know.
04:32.19AntiarcHeh, so it'd seem
04:32.27Kreigerone sec, rebooting.
04:32.29CIA-2203funkydude * r50106 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua:
04:32.29CIA-22BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz:
04:32.29CIA-22- nil spam protection on engage
04:35.13*** join/#wowace Kreiger (n=Kreiger@ool-44c1b8f4.dyn.optonline.net)
04:35.17Kreigeranywho.
04:35.56KreigerOh, ant. are you planning on changing omen over to the rock thingie thats catching on?
04:36.04Kreigeror is it staying ace2 (which i assume it is)
04:36.12AntiarcIt's staying Ace2, at least for now.
04:36.50Kreigerkk. Will you ever include a way for me to see what abilities are causing what threat? like a recap of a fight so i can see where my threat's coming from?
04:37.24AntiarcPossibly. It wouldn't be difficult to add something like that, but it would be resource-consuming
04:37.44KreigerMaybe an optional add-on as opposed to a part of omen itself then?
04:38.02Funkeh`Would be better off 'enabling' it in threat so addons like assessment can
04:38.06*** join/#wowace yssaril (n=chatzill@adsl-76-217-108-251.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net)
04:38.20AntiarcThat's the direction I'd like to take it
04:38.31KreigerI use assesment. but it doesn;'t seem to handle "threat" very well.
04:38.41AntiarcWhat I'd really like is to do some kind of "Threat recorder" so you can dump your threat out of game, and view it with pretty graphs and charts and crap
04:38.45Funkeh`Then you could click players ont he lsit and see what threat v what mob, or make windows of threat for specific mobs
04:38.54KreigerAntiarc, like a WWS kinda thing?
04:38.58AntiarcSorta, yeah.
04:39.01Gngskmight as well wait to see what kinda api blizz gives for threat
04:39.05AntiarcPostmortem threat generation analysis
04:39.09ckknightAntiarc: then I could finally prove that it was gnomes!
04:39.16KreigerI use WWS to give me miss rates, but it doesn't do much for me as tank. it;s nice to see who's dpsing tho.
04:39.45yssarilalright i am redoing my entire UI what can you guys recomend?
04:39.52Funkeh`Assessment was pretty good for in game miss rates alst I checked
04:40.00*** join/#wowace skypilot (n=chatzill@bas4-toronto63-1096693611.dsl.bell.ca)
04:40.06Funkeh`yssaril: vanilla ftw
04:40.17Kreigeryssaril, pitbull.
04:40.21yssarilwhat vanilla
04:43.55Antiarchahahah
04:43.57mykxvanilla meaning default but screw that..
04:43.58Antiarckeylogger
04:43.58Antiarchttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_295036
04:44.53ckknightKTM's a keylogger!
04:44.54ckknightI knew it
04:45.05KreigerI don't see that comment..
04:45.11Seerahtic-tac-toe!
04:45.23Antiarcwhat is the proces i shud tke to install this for mac, i dont have a c:programs folder, nor can i decompress zip files. when i try to run the aplication it imeaditly runs "big bang tic-tac-toe" (a fun game but not reli what i was looking for)
04:45.40kandarzanyone know if there's a lua function like this: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.time.php#76736
04:45.47AntiarcIn fairness, for typing like that, that guy deserves to get keylogged.
04:46.08ckknightkandarz: time()
04:46.09ckknight:-P
04:46.15ckknightos.time() in normal lua
04:46.38kandarzno
04:46.41kandarzlook at the comment!
04:46.55kandarzfunction timeDiff($timestamp,$detailed=false, $max_detail_levels=8, $precision_level='second'){
04:47.49yssarilalright i need good bar mod any recomendations?
04:48.25kandarzI realize there's a time function, I'm looking for something to give how long ago, like "3 days, 4 hours, 20 minutes ago"
04:49.08Kreigeryssaril, bartender's nice
04:49.25Kreigerfriends of mine complain about bongos sometimes, but they still sya it's better
04:49.41Kreigera girl i know who plays with mods and makes some recommends infinibar
04:50.54Speeddymonok this addon is really pissing me off now
04:51.36Speeddymonfucking xrayvision.. its not ace'd and the author says that tooltip conflicts arent his fault, when his addon is the one causing them...
04:52.12Speeddymonfirst it bugs out wowecon's tooltips and makes it show prices on everything, including elements of the ui..
04:52.31Speeddymonnow its making items in the main bank show bag tooltips
04:52.44Speeddymon</rant>
04:55.03*** join/#wowace ThraeBot (n=ThraeBot@pool-71-179-86-35.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
04:56.13kandarzis there a ternary operator in lua?
04:56.30kandarz(expr1) ? (expr2) : (expr3)
04:56.46*** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@85.252.67.93)
04:56.59aestilmy cat just bit my foot.  should i kill it? or be understanding?
04:57.00Antiarcvar = (expr1 and expr2) or expr3
04:57.15aestilAntiarc: How much do you love that threat pullout bar?
04:57.25Antiarc?
04:57.36aestilit saved my ass on hydross the other day.  I hit 129% threat according to it.
04:57.54aestilfirst time i ever thought "thank god my dots don't crit"
04:57.55*** join/#wowace Yssaril_ (n=chatzill@adsl-76-217-108-251.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net)
04:58.01*** join/#wowace Pazza (n=john@pool-72-89-187-136.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
04:58.12CIA-2203stormfx * r50107 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc plugins/Klappa.lua):
04:58.12CIA-22cyCircled:
04:58.12CIA-22- Added Klappa plugin. (BETA!)
04:59.03sylvanaarkandarz but expr2 has to be true (not false or nil)
04:59.23aestilckknight: one of our MT is a gnome, so in my guild your 'it was the gnomes' mantra would probably be correct.
04:59.34ckknightlol
04:59.43*** join/#wowace Stanzilla (n=Stanzill@p54995618.dip.t-dialin.net)
04:59.47kandarzhow would you rewrite this: ($timestamp >= $now) ? $action = 'away' : $action = 'ago';
05:00.13sylvanaaras an if statement
05:00.18kandarz:(
05:00.31CIA-2203funkydude * r50108 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua:
05:00.31CIA-22BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council:
05:00.31CIA-22- Warn who did the heal interrupt.
05:03.44*** join/#wowace _newbie_ (n=Stanzill@p54995618.dip.t-dialin.net)
05:04.31ckknightkandarz: if timestamp >= now then action = 'away' else action = 'ago' end
05:05.01Antiarcaction = (timestamp >= now and "away") or "ago"
05:05.07aestilEllipsis_: pipng
05:05.27ckknightAntiarc: not sure why you're putting those parentheses there
05:05.31*** part/#wowace Zapht (n=Zapht@65.48.76.10)
05:05.33AntiarcVisual clarity
05:05.38ckknightI suppose
05:05.47ckknighteither way, it's less efficient than an if statement anyway
05:06.17Recluseorder of operations parentheses improve readability for me too lol
05:07.24kandarznext question, does this work? function timeDiff(timestamp,detailed=false, max_detail_levels=8, precision_level='second')
05:07.45kandarzadding in default values for a function
05:09.00ZhinjioAnyone know how to disable these whacky pullout bars in Omen?
05:09.14Zhinjiothey're bugging out a bit. I probably need to update.
05:09.15AntiarcTo get rid of one, right click it and click "remove"
05:09.18Recluseright click it remove
05:09.21Zhinjiowell, yeah.
05:09.30*** join/#wowace Azure (i=Azurewra@i59F543CB.versanet.de)
05:09.31Zhinjiobut there's some invisible ones near the omen bar (below it, actually)
05:09.36AntiarcHrm
05:09.45AntiarcThose are probably the threat bars themselves
05:09.48AntiarcWhich I have already fixed :)
05:09.51Zhinjioif I hover the mouse there. ok.
05:09.53AntiarcSo see if it goes away with an update
05:09.55ZhinjioI need to update.
05:10.16Reclusei tried to drag my omen bar just a bit ago (haven't updated today) and got one of them bars XD couldn't figure it out at first
05:10.28Lukianlol Recluse  :p
05:10.31*** join/#wowace Dhouu (n=auake@212.25.35.110)
05:10.33*** join/#wowace a^i`SmaN (i=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net)
05:10.49*** part/#wowace Dhouu (n=auake@212.25.35.110)
05:11.44Reclusewell, it definitely wasn't the expected result lol
05:15.31aestilhmm, my expaction is that my pet bar will only exist while I have a pet.  did making secure action bars recently mean thats not possible?
05:15.35*** join/#wowace Daemona (n=me@d020176.adsl.hansenet.de)
05:15.47aestillike, if you summon a pet in combat you won't get a bar if it has to create the frame from scratch?
05:18.57*** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-69-180-106-134.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
05:19.49Kreigeraestil, i can test that if you like.
05:19.57Kreigeri'll go summon something in combat.
05:21.09aestilwell, i'm finding that my petbar in BT3 is there, even when I can't see it.
05:21.29aestilwhen I create an eePanel and parent it to the BT3BarPET frame, it exists, even when I don't have a pet.
05:23.20CIA-2203funkydude * r50109 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua:
05:23.20CIA-22BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz:
05:23.20CIA-22- forgot, texture matching needs 'Interface\\Icons\\' :/
05:26.39Funkeh`nn folks
05:27.56Kreigerhey Antiarc?
05:29.50Silowyiaestill: I seem to recall something about tainting... and that it was an easy fix to the whole "summon pet in combat" thing... I dunno though maybe the "fix" was just to make the frame invis.
05:30.14Silowyiwell not invis, hide it.
05:30.47CIA-2203gamefaq * r50110 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Illidan.lua Shahraz.lua): BigWigs: deDE Update, Coucil has to wait until i get the triggers later in raid
05:31.51Silowyioh btw... since we haven't attempted Solarian yet this week, and I'm too lazy to go to the R&D forums... what did they do with mark? I heard something like Baron Geddon effect?
05:31.59*** join/#wowace gnor (n=jaydee@cpe-76-170-71-236.socal.res.rr.com)
05:36.03aestilis there an event that fires when you log in?
05:36.11aestillike a welcome message or someething?
05:36.20*** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7)
05:36.36aestilor is there an event that happens at the initial garbage collection?
05:36.41kandarzSilowyi, yes, bomb, very very obvious
05:36.45ThelynaSilowyi: yeah, wrath of the astromancer = you go boom
05:36.47*** part/#wowace Yssaril_ (n=chatzill@adsl-76-217-108-251.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net)
05:37.02Thelynathe mark doesn't have the stacking -AR effect anymore, it's just 1k-1.5k raid damage
05:37.15kandarzyou go boom, and everyone around you booms too, and ~10-20k fall damage
05:37.28Thelynain short, anyone who can clear the trash and knows that glowing purple is a bad thing should be able to kill solarian now
05:38.08CIA-2203pettigrow * r50111 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update
05:40.09*** join/#wowace QQngsk (n=Gngsk@c-69-138-213-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
05:40.13ckknightaestil: GC has no event, PLAYER_LOGIN fires initially
05:42.22aestilwhen I try to register that even I get an Ace2 error that says there is no such event.
05:44.51CIA-2203fin * r50112 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua:
05:44.51CIA-22Prat: Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua: Hey, look! Working options for setting
05:44.51CIA-22the chat frame edit box background texture, and the colour! And, shit, it even
05:44.51CIA-22SAVES those options! Christ, this modern techernologgy eh, those fellas sure are
05:44.51CIA-22CLEVER. Glad they aren't TAKING FAR TOO LONG TO IMPLEMENT PRETTY SIMPLE FIXES,
05:44.52CIA-22shucks. (Naughty Fin. Lazy. Sit in the corner. Yes, the lazy corner.)
05:45.09*** part/#wowace CrazyBenny (n=s_m@a02-0418b.kn.vutbr.cz)
05:46.32Killmore2ckknight: it is possible with cartographer when the map is ON to right click on someone and have the menu "invite, trade, follow, whisper" etc.. ?
05:46.47Killmore2ckknight: should be useful in AV to "report afk" :P
05:47.47mikmaKillmore2: like, the default map works
05:48.09Killmore2mikma: with the default map its working ?
05:48.20mikmayeap and the battleminimap
05:48.29mikmayou can rightclick players -> Report AFK
05:48.35Killmore2ok
05:48.36mikmaor Report all persons
05:48.50Killmore2you can report everyone in the av ? :P
05:49.16mikmait's lovely <3 if there's a group of players idling, you can report them all if you have them mouseovered and tooltip says their name
05:49.35*** join/#wowace Srosh (n=Srosh@d071072.adsl.hansenet.de)
05:50.57*** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-084-063-118-107.pools.arcor-ip.net)
05:52.22*** part/#wowace NavrasU1 (n=NavrasUS@acad240229.eastdorm.uic.edu)
05:58.08*** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
06:00.15*** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
06:03.44*** join/#wowace Paradox_ (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust10.bagu.broadband.ntl.com)
06:04.36*** join/#wowace Mudkipz (n=Yumm@66-215-38-143.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com)
06:10.54*** join/#wowace karpadnik (i=karpadni@gateway/tor/x-87f0d24f0051728e)
06:12.58KreigerMudkipz fail.
06:13.10Kreiger!fail Mudkipz
06:13.14Kreigerhrm.
06:13.23Kreigerscrew it.
06:14.17durcyn~fail mudkipz
06:14.18purlmudkipz: Fail.
06:14.32kandarzis there a round function in lua? I can't seam to find one
06:15.18Grumif there is math.floor or ceil you also have round :) (+0.5 then floor)
06:15.44CIA-2203nevcairiel * r50113 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: fixed CastCommLib OptDep
06:21.31*** join/#wowace kh__ (n=kh@punchlinebibel.com)
06:22.32kadrahili put fiery on my 16 pally's http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28164
06:22.36kadrahilso OP, heh
06:22.53kadrahiltwo shotting mobs my level
06:23.24nevcairielaround that level everyone feels alot OP
06:23.46kadrahili know
06:24.10kadrahilbut check out the shadowbolt proc :P
06:24.34kadrahilactually, i was wondering about that
06:24.45kadrahilsince i put fiery on it, will the shadow bolt still proc?
06:24.55nevcairielyea
06:25.09kadrahilok
06:26.01theoddone33I think the deal with estimated heals is that they don't work on people from other servers
06:26.03theoddone33in battlegrounds
06:26.05theoddone33but I'm not sure
06:26.17theoddone33in pitbull
06:26.34Gngsk10.1 dps, how could you NOT feel overpowered?
06:27.24theoddone33eh, isn't the blue from the deathholme quest way better?
06:27.40theoddone33but at 16...
06:27.44theoddone33(nevermind)
06:29.13*** join/#wowace Zapht (n=Zapht@65.48.76.10)
06:29.48*** part/#wowace Tsikura (n=tsikura@user-0cev19g.cable.mindspring.com)
06:29.54*** part/#wowace Zapht (n=Zapht@65.48.76.10)
06:36.16kadrahilGngsk: exactly
06:36.28kadrahilGngsk: i saw that and was like holy crap
06:36.29*** join/#wowace Jaxon (n=Jackson@S01060017f2092837.ed.shawcable.net)
06:36.37MudkipzDid I do something wrong so that grid is locked in place whenever I parent a frame to it?
06:36.43kadrahili didn't notice it at the quartermaster there the first time i leveled a BE
06:37.24theoddone33heh... hmmm estimated heals worked on a hunter pet that wasn't from my server
06:37.27theoddone33this is so weird
06:37.32theoddone33I can't narrow it down
06:37.33*** join/#wowace jamesbondjr (n=jamesnon@71.239.127.152)
06:38.12jamesbondjris there a crowd control mod that will properly announce who broke the cc in say or party or raid chat that is currently working?
06:38.27Mudkipzis this the corrent anchor? " GridLayoutFrame "
06:38.38Mudkipzcorrect*
06:39.35*** join/#wowace FtH|Daemona (n=me@c169021.adsl.hansenet.de)
06:43.02Mudkipzor do I need to do something funky like when parent violation?
06:44.40Wobwor1Parent violation? Show me on the doll, Mudkipz =\
06:45.15Mudkipzlol
06:45.46Mudkipzwell the scripts guide says that violation doesn't have a "real" frame name
06:45.51Mudkipzis this true for Grid also?
06:46.34*** part/#wowace Wobwor1 (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au)
06:47.37sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016252769&sid=1 -.-*
06:49.41*** join/#wowace Pazza (n=john@pool-72-89-187-136.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
06:52.13*** join/#wowace yssaril (n=chatzill@adsl-76-217-108-251.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net)
06:52.22*** join/#wowace Diao (i=vschiu@ip68-225-241-233.oc.oc.cox.net)
06:53.02*** join/#wowace Fisker-- (n=blah2@cpe.atm4-0-70242.0x50a01902.hknxx4.customer.tele.dk)
06:53.37*** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net)
06:57.10Fisker--btw anyone else experiencing that class colors on the map doesn't work with cartographer?
06:57.18Mudkipzyeah
06:57.35Tekkuboh this is priceless
06:57.45Tekkubsome retard on trade bitching about the AH hour wait
06:57.58Tekkuband I'm sitting here fighting with Quickbooks to send an invoice
06:58.10*** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be)
06:58.22Tekkub"Oh noes, Quickbooks won't send my invoice... now I'm gonna have to wait an hour for my money"
06:59.38Mudkipzthe resize script for eepanel says I need AceHook loaded
07:00.28Mudkipzeh
07:01.28*** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x535dce14.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
07:03.00*** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem)
07:03.00*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ
07:07.02Diaohm interesting
07:07.26Diaotattle tells me battlegroup data isn't found o_o
07:08.28*** join/#wowace Kain___ (n=Highwind@ip72-209-239-215.dc.dc.cox.net)
07:09.28MudkipzI guess everyone is asleep
07:10.59*** join/#wowace Shadowed (n=outlaw@12.157.177.162)
07:15.53buuZomg Antiarc is famous!
07:16.05Antiarc?
07:16.08*** join/#wowace MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower)
07:16.08*** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ
07:16.27CIA-2203cronan * r50114 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua:
07:16.27CIA-22BigBrother:
07:16.27CIA-22- koKR update
07:17.57buuCurse has a great interview up with Antiarc, creator of that Omen threat addon that you raiders like so much. He talks about how he got started in WoW addons (with this crazy awesome Zelda UI), dealing with WoW 2.0, and the big differences between KTM and Omen.
07:18.07buuIt's a good read-- Antiarc seems like a smart guy who not only knows the ins and outs of the UI system,
07:18.12buuBoy you sure fooled them =]
07:18.39Gamefaqlol
07:19.05kandarzlink
07:19.13kandarzall I see if the pastamancer interview
07:22.10buukandarz: It was from wowinsider
07:22.17buuI don't bother to fact check such things!
07:22.18kandarzI found it now
07:24.08theoddone33I'm really not a happy camper
07:24.18theoddone33didn't realize this new AH system was in
07:24.21theoddone33very annoying
07:24.22Tekkubtrade channel just gets better....
07:24.40Tekkubsomehow start talking about "Tom goes to the mayor" on Adult Swim,,,,
07:25.06buuTekkub: We had a fairly entertaining conversation in /trade earlier, replacing movie titles with murlocs
07:25.13ramozbuu: got a link to that article/interview?
07:25.16Tekkub[Me] That show is like a mental stress test, noone can watch a whole show without mind-altering drugs... it's a test to see how long you can hold out...
07:25.28Tekkubnoone can watch the whole show clean...
07:25.44Tekkub[Bosnick] >> I can't turn the show ON clean
07:26.50buuhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/27/curse-interviews-omen-creator/
07:27.06CIA-2203next96 * r50115 10WitchHunt/locales/koKR.lua:
07:27.06CIA-22WitchHunt :
07:27.06CIA-22- Update locale koKR
07:27.49*** join/#wowace shingo2 (n=shingo@p5B0579CB.dip.t-dialin.net)
07:28.33kadrahildid the world server jstu go down?
07:28.35kadrahiljust
07:29.16kadrahilok that is freaky.
07:29.20kadrahili can't log in with my pally
07:29.52kadrahili just finished the amani catacomb escort quest, and as soon as the chick says "thanks for helping me escape" i get disconnected, world server down
07:30.27buuYou escaped!
07:30.27*** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=chatzill@proxy.datavis.se)
07:30.33*** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc2-cove7-0-0-cust20.brhm.cable.ntl.com)
07:30.36kadrahillol
07:31.40NickenyfikenLOL!
07:31.53Nickenyfikenbur
07:32.20kadrahiland wouldn't you know, i didn't get credit for that quest
07:32.28kadrahilthat was completed *right* before the server went boom
07:32.48kadrahilit actually didn't have time to give me credit :(
07:34.49orionshockmorning all
07:34.52*** join/#wowace papyros (n=madlener@iss16.vlsi.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de)
07:37.16CIA-2203cronan * r50116 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua BuffWindow.lua):
07:37.16CIA-22BigBrother:
07:37.16CIA-22- Click on FuBar toggles buff window
07:40.52*** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl)
07:46.56orionshockckknight: ping
07:47.11ckknightpong
07:47.43orionshockcartographer guild / party dots aren't showing up colored ... any ideas?
07:48.07ckknightBlizz prolly changed a function name or something
07:49.22Fisker--there is no missing colors here in iraq
07:49.25Fisker--are*
07:49.37Fisker--and you know what that means
07:49.47Fisker--if i deny it acting as the iraqi information minister
07:53.30Xinhuanhey ckknight, did you see that new addon on files.wowace.com frontpage called !scrooge ;p
07:54.05ckknightno, I didn't
07:54.06ckknightwhat is it?
07:54.21Xinhuandescription: How do you get to be the most richest duck in the world? Steal donations!
07:54.43Xinhuancommit log: !Scrooge: Kills all Ace2/Rock donation links on any piece of code that checks for X-Donate or donate in configuration
07:54.51Xinhuan;p
07:55.15Olisonuh :D
07:55.47cryogenthats.. pointless
07:56.07ckknightthe donation links aren't obtrusive
07:56.20cryogenthey arent even easy to find
07:56.21ckknightdoes anyone here think they are?
07:56.30ckknightthey're not meant to be in-your-face
07:56.35ckknighton purpose
07:56.37cryogenthey totally arent, imo
07:57.00cryogenwhoever wrote that addon is either a) bored b) wanting to make drama or c) an asshole
07:57.10cryogenor any combination of the three
07:57.38CIA-2203rabbit * r50117 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0: Bugfix for QueryTalents and QueryAddonVersion when not using WHISPER.
07:57.50cryogeni totally broke pitbull last night btw :)
07:57.54ckknightvhaarr: hrm, what was the issue with that?
07:57.55cryogenno way in hell i can reproduce it though
07:58.02ckknightoh
07:58.04ckknightI know.
07:58.07ckknight(my bad)
08:00.38ckknightmikma: why did you make !Scrooge?
08:01.21*** join/#wowace Sole_ (n=chatzill@203.173.139.197)
08:02.06orionshockhey ckknight found the problem i think
08:02.12ckknightawesome
08:02.14ckknightlet's hear it
08:02.34orionshockGetRaidRosterInfo() isn't returning anything for it's last variable
08:03.03orionshocknil, 0, 1, 1, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil = GetRaidRosterInfo(1)
08:03.09ckknighthrm
08:03.26ckknightwtf, why does Blizz keep breaking shit?
08:03.40ShadowedBecause the donation buttons are stupid
08:03.48ShadowedWhy do you use ad blockers?
08:04.02kandarzthey aren't related at all
08:04.05ckknightI don't for websites I like that need money
08:04.05Shadowedyes they are actually
08:04.07kandarzads are in your face
08:04.10cryogenShadowed: ads are like, in your face
08:04.10Shadowedso is this
08:04.11ckknightand yes, they aren't related at all
08:04.14kadrahilso, a rat just resisted fiery weapon
08:04.16kadrahilO_o
08:04.18ckknightno, the donation links are not in your face
08:04.27ckknightthey're specifically not in your face
08:04.29Mecdemortkadrahil: <3 that 1%
08:04.31Shadoweduh hu
08:04.31Shadowedh
08:04.32cryogenthe donations links are far from in your face
08:04.36ckknightthey're not flashy, they don't make noises
08:04.38ShadowedI'm not arguing this since it's just going to be ckks fanbois
08:04.39Shadowedthey're annoying
08:04.41Shadowedand they're stupid
08:04.45ckknightthey just look like any old button
08:04.56ShadowedKael already knows about it and didn't have issues
08:05.02cryogenShadowed: nice attitude
08:05.03Mecdemortorionshock: when you called GetRaidRosterInfo(1) had you been in the raid for a while?
08:05.05ShadowedThanks I try cry
08:05.23vhaarrI'm not a fanboi, and I don't see the problem with the donate button either, in fact I think it's a nice addition.
08:05.25cryogenso, c) was pretty correct then
08:05.32*** join/#wowace Aens[T] (n=a@CPE00508da82991-CM0019477f6ec8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
08:05.33orionshockMecdemort: you prove one of my problems i just found... i was not
08:05.34ckknightpeople don't have to donate
08:05.45ckknightbut they should at least be aware that I'm taking donations
08:05.48kandarzcryogen, up, I'd say you were right
08:05.54*** join/#wowace doktoreas (n=geko@host40-186-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
08:06.01ckknightand I don't do it in an in-your-face manner, so I don't see it as a big deal
08:06.04CIA-2203arkayenro * r50118 10ArkInventory/ (5 files):
08:06.04CIA-22ArkInventory:
08:06.04CIA-22- v2.10b
08:06.04kandarzerr, yup
08:06.26cryogenits slightly more noticable in dropdown menus than it is in rock config
08:06.31cryogenbut still its not that noticable
08:06.36mikmarock -> click -> [                DONATE                ]
08:06.40mikmain your face
08:06.45ShadowedI'm sure they're aware ckk don't worry
08:06.47ckknightwith a whole bunch of other stuff
08:06.54ckknightand it's not in all caps
08:06.57Shadowedit being in all your addons, in your signatures, and in your CG interview are more then enough
08:07.01ShadowedI can assure you
08:07.09ckknightyea, and me still hardly getting any donations...
08:07.10Shadowedoh and your mod descriptions on WoWI
08:07.10Mecdemortin your face would be a modal popup window demanding that you donate before you can use the rock config
08:07.19Shadoweddid I miss anything?
08:07.20orionshockomg - it's one button in an obscure location.. like it's gona jump out of the monitor and eat you
08:07.22kandarzit's not rock -> click -> [ OMG I'M POOR PLEASE IF YOU USE THIS GIVE ME MONEY ]
08:07.25ckknightMecdemort: that'd be bitchy
08:07.26Chompersyeah ckk, how dare you ask for donations for your free addons
08:07.28ChompersSHAME ON YOU
08:07.38ckknightChompers: I's sorry, masa
08:07.52Mecdemortdon't make me get the hose again
08:07.55ckknightI know I'm just your slave and since you started using my addons, you're now obligated to always use them and have them never break
08:08.05ckknightMy name's Toby!
08:08.11cryogenckknight: how dare you provide substandard products!
08:08.28*** join/#wowace Paradox__ (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust10.bagu.broadband.ntl.com)
08:08.29orionshockckknight: that's a bad line to feed
08:08.51kandarzif anyone hates the donate buttons so much, they shouldn't be using ckk's addons anyway
08:09.01ckknightthat's pretty much my thoughts
08:09.14nevcairielnot like you forced the donate button in every ace2 addon :shrug:
08:09.24ckknightif you aren't respectful enough to have the nonobtrusive donation buttons showing, you shouldn't be using my addons
08:09.37ckknightnevcairiel: only if their authors set it
08:09.50ckknight*shrug*
08:09.54nevcairieldoesnt it default to "donate to wowace"?
08:09.59cryogeni dont understand the problem really
08:10.01ckknightno, it used to
08:10.03ckknightbut that was changed
08:10.04Xinhuanwell, i questioned whether this counts as addon harassment
08:10.05nevcairielah.
08:10.24ckknightShadowed: that you're just trolling now?
08:10.28kandarzwe're obviously not going to get the obvious so you should tell us
08:10.36ShadowedWheres the fun in that, I'll wait
08:10.36ckknightyea, same
08:10.40cryogenbecause, you know, it annoys me!
08:10.41ShadowedI'm very patient
08:10.45Mecdemortyou gotta remember we live in the new and improved 'politically correct' world, anything that exists is in your face and obtrusive
08:10.49ckknightcryogen: I don't have an issue with that...
08:11.05cryogenbut to me, as a user, its the same thing
08:11.08cryogenits just another option
08:11.12ckknightcryogen: because you aren't doing it as a personal affront to me
08:11.12cryogenone i happen to have never clicked on
08:11.14cryogenbut i have seen it
08:11.30cryogenckknight: but i could
08:11.37cryogengranted it wouldnt create as much drama
08:11.41cryogenbut thats sort of the point isnt it
08:11.50*** join/#wowace snarpel (n=Kevin@c-67-186-255-209.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
08:11.51cryogenits not about removing the option at all
08:11.54cryogenits about ckk bashing
08:11.56ckknightI figured half the point of this is to create drama
08:12.12cryogenShadowed was right above, he just got it in reverse
08:12.19Mecdemort~emo
08:12.20purl/wrists
08:12.39ckknightlol
08:14.04*** join/#wowace Vires (n=vires@69-77-205-221.gwtc.net)
08:14.11CIA-2203gamefaq * r50119 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: deDE trigger fix
08:14.12orionshockhey ckknight it's either that or SetVertexColor(t.r, t.g, t.b) isn't doing what it's suposed to
08:14.52*** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@klaagmuur.quince.nl)
08:14.52*** join/#wowace Gravon (n=ass@85.90.140.122)
08:16.23ckknightI bet it's cause GetRaidRosterInfo changed its API for some ungodly reason
08:16.38orionshocklol CTL is coughing up an error when trying to bcast a db... :\
08:17.36CIA-2203ckknight * r50120 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GroupColors/GroupColors.lua: Cartographer_GroupColors - possible fix for raid not showing up colorized
08:18.30Nickenyfikenckknight: cheer
08:18.46Nickenyfikenfor a while i was wondering why the whole guild was priests :-P
08:18.52kandarzckknight, this is how the donate button should be imo: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2981/loldonateif1.jpg
08:19.18ckknightnote: you can only use that revision if you don't use !Scrooge
08:19.24ckknightjust, so you know
08:19.28ckknightlol, kandarz
08:19.31CIA-2203cronan * r50121 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua:
08:19.31CIA-22BigBrother:
08:19.31CIA-22- Possible bug fix
08:19.36ckknightI believe people might get a little miffed at that
08:19.38kandarzyou have to click it to see the options
08:19.44Nickenyfiken!Scrooge?
08:20.12ckknightwhat do you call someone who is the antithesis of the fanboi?
08:20.21ckknightanti-fanboi?
08:20.24ckknightor is there a better name?
08:20.27Xinhuanhater
08:20.38kandarzwhat xin said
08:20.39Viresflamer?
08:20.46kandarztroll
08:21.08*** join/#wowace Vegeta (n=Vegeta-G@xdsli066.osnanet.de)
08:21.12ckknighthrm
08:21.19ckknightI suppose those work
08:21.57Kebinusanwoot ty for the fix ckk
08:22.08NickenyfikenUh what's the purpose of Scrooge?
08:22.34*** join/#wowace hanzzon (n=per@81-236-217-232-no25.tbcn.telia.com)
08:22.55ckknightNickenyfiken: remove all of my donation links
08:23.06KebinusanTo remove donation links because people would rather not feel guilty for thinking gee I use this alot maybe I should send a dollar
08:23.08NickenyfikenYeah, but why?
08:23.19ckknightanti-fanboiism
08:23.19cryogenckknight: one thing i wanted to whine at you about.. config windows getting into an usable state
08:23.21NickenyfikenEh...
08:23.22Kebinusan*shrugs*
08:23.34ckknightmy guess: to create drama
08:23.37cryogensomething, i cant remember what, popped up an additional window which was hidden behind the main rock config
08:23.38hanzzonhiya, I installed the "Prat" addon, very nice. however now I see the info from GroupCalendar in my main chat window... any idea what that could be because?
08:23.39ckknightmore than anything
08:23.46cryogenand i couldnt get at it without moving the rock config out of the way
08:23.50NickenyfikenIt's not like the donate button pops up in the middle of the screen when you load a addon
08:23.53ckknightcryogen: remember what it is next time ;-)
08:23.59cryogenckknight: next time it happens i will :)
08:24.03ckknightNickenyfiken: exactly. It's meant to be non-obtrusive
08:24.16orionshock"ChatThrottleLib-18\ChatThrottleLib.lua:438: Unknown addon chat type" -- what's that suposed to mean?
08:24.24cryogenit was one of those "crap, raiding, just work please" moments
08:24.47ckknightorionshock: *sigh* that'd be useful if it said what chat type was unknown
08:25.06orionshocklol
08:25.08orionshocktrue
08:25.25orionshocki get that error when trying to b/cast a db with cartographer
08:25.47orionshock... and you know the method that Cart_NoteShare uses is a total hack
08:25.57hanzzonthis is the messages I get in my main chat window now: "10:21:02 [GC3][VER:3.3.1][GUILD][Echelon]"
08:26.49*** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@pD9E00B4C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
08:26.51orionshockhanzzon: you use prat?
08:27.03hanzzonorionshock; yes, I just installed it
08:27.14orionshockok one sec i'll tell you where the option is
08:27.24hanzzonorionshock; and when I installed it I get the GC messages in min window...
08:27.29NickenyfikenI never get a message like that with Prat
08:27.55orionshockhanzzon: hit the prat icon, > Enabled Modules > Addon Messages - select toggle to off
08:29.00orionshockLOL wtf, the RockConfig for prat has a button to open the waterfall config for it  :|
08:29.01hanzzonorionshock; tank you very much!
08:29.17ckknightorionshock: ...yea
08:29.17orionshockhanzzon: np
08:29.43orionshockckknight: just a little odd i think
08:30.01ckknightnot gonna deny it
08:30.02orionshockbut that's more an issue on how the AceOptions table was made for prat
08:31.03*** join/#wowace Zariel (i=Zariel@host86-152-236-103.range86-152.btcentralplus.com)
08:31.31*** join/#wowace Zariel (i=Zariel@host86-152-236-103.range86-152.btcentralplus.com)
08:31.39Zarielgood morning peopel
08:31.44orionshock.. purl can't query the current svn revision for a perticular file can it....
08:32.07nevcairielpurl is a general info bot, its in no way a special ace bot
08:32.20nevcairielits present in alot of channels on freenode
08:33.36*** join/#wowace Fisker-- (n=blah2@cpe.atm4-0-70242.0x50a01902.hknxx4.customer.tele.dk)
08:34.05*** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-132-249.student.uu.se)
08:34.14WobinWe don't want to abuse purl too much either with torrents of channel specific stuff
08:34.17Zarielgoogle will rule the world soon.
08:34.30hanzzonI'm not finding the option of where to move the chat input text box (where you write stuff) to it's default location in Prat, is there one?
08:35.33Nickenyfikenhanzzon: it is probably a module that do that. try disabling it.
08:35.38ZealotOnAStick"purl is a general info bot, its in no way a special ace bot"
08:35.52Nickenyfiken~purl
08:35.52purli guess purl is emo
08:36.02GngskZealotOnAStick, rock it imo
08:36.06orionshockLOL
08:36.08Wobingod no
08:36.12orionshockGngsk: no no
08:36.15orionshocki got one better
08:36.22WobinI don't want a window covering my screen if I accidentally click on purl =P
08:36.24hanzzonNickenyfiken; I'll take another look
08:36.38CIA-2203stormfx * r50122 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc plugins/Buffalo.lua plugins/Geist.lua):
08:36.38CIA-22cyCircled:
08:36.38CIA-22- Added Geist and Buffalo plugins (user tested)
08:36.41kandarztime() gets server time or local time?
08:36.42*** join/#wowace suppilein (i=suppilei@e177196198.adsl.alicedsl.de)
08:36.44Nickenyfikenpurl, you are a ace of rock
08:36.44purlNickenyfiken: what are you talking about?
08:36.58orionshockFirst ReWrite it on Ace2, then Transpose half the libs it uses to Rock, and the other half to Ace3, then reWork the DB code to use Dongle and the UI to use Cosmos
08:36.59xt~drama
08:37.16nevcairielthe dongle DB is the Ace3 db, fyi :P
08:37.50*** join/#wowace big_rig (n=yeahbaby@adsl-70-231-128-234.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net)
08:37.53big_righey guys
08:37.55Shadowedmore like DongleDB-2.0
08:37.57Nickenyfikenit is?
08:37.59Shadowedis Ace3 DB =p
08:38.07orionshock.... that like totally kill the humor in that joke nevcairiel
08:38.10big_riga person in my guild told me that i can download some type of ace program to update all my mods
08:38.13Shadowedwell it's fact
08:38.23big_rigever since the patch came out, ive been getting all sorts of errors with certain mods, like omen, etc
08:38.33big_righow do i mkae updating these mods easier? ive downloaded the program, wow ace updater
08:38.37Zarielupdated?
08:38.37big_rigbut it doesnt do anything when i run it
08:38.40Nickenyfiken~wau
08:38.40purli guess wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside.
08:38.41big_rigit doesnt detect any addons i have
08:38.55Mecdemortthats rather concise for a guess
08:39.15orionshockbig_rig: WAU, witch was linked by purl is a program that downloads BETA addons, not guaranteed to work
08:39.23Xinhuanbig_rig: go to the preferences and edit the preferences so that WAU knows where your wow is installed
08:39.37Nickenyfikenbig_rig: be more specific
08:39.44orionshockthen again you grab one from ui.worldofwar.net and your bound to find one there not going to work too :\
08:39.54Xinhuanit tries to retrieve this data from your windows registry, but if that isn't possible, it can't really guess
08:40.54big_rigmy wow folder is c:\world of warcraft
08:40.58big_rigand thats what it is set to in the preferences
08:41.07hanzzonNickenyfiken; found it, thnx for the tip =)
08:41.19mikmaWANN IST INVITES TO BOLTON MOOR
08:41.35Nickenyfiken~silence mikma
08:41.36purlACTION shoves an apple in mikma's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting
08:41.43mikmamissed me :I
08:42.00Gngskflying from silithus to moonglade is awesome
08:42.32NickenyfikenGngsk: oh yeah, you have timer over to do dishes!
08:42.41Gngskscrew that
08:42.46NickenyfikenOr read a book
08:42.51Gngskyou get to see all of kalimdor
08:42.54Gngskawesome sights to see!
08:43.01big_rigxinhuan, the WoW Install Directory is C:\World of Warcraft\ which is what my wow folder is
08:43.09big_rigi dont have to go furhter into interface/addons do i ?
08:43.16WobinGngsk: Bah
08:43.26WobinGngsk: It's faster to reroll a druid and teleport =P
08:43.31Nickenyfikenbig_rig: no you dont have to
08:43.39big_righmm
08:43.42big_rigso i wonder why it wont detect any addons
08:43.42Nickenyfikenrofl Wobin
08:43.47Xinhuannope you don't have to
08:43.49*** join/#wowace a-stray-cat (n=chris@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
08:43.54Xinhuantry rerunning it, or press F5
08:43.55Xinhuanto refresh
08:44.05*** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-132-249.student.uu.se)
08:44.13hanzzonbig_rig; well, do you actually have any Ace addons then?
08:44.15Nickenyfikenhave you tried restart/refresh and press all buttons at once?
08:44.20big_righanzzon, i have omen
08:44.24hanzzonok
08:44.35big_rigand i know i have some other ones too because it says "-Ace2-
08:44.36big_rigin the game
08:44.42hanzzonright
08:44.47Nickenyfikenif you only have one addon from wowace.com you could update it manually
08:44.54big_rigi have more than 1
08:44.58big_rigi have maybe 10
08:44.58NickenyfikenOK!
08:44.59big_rigor so
08:45.30big_rigi keep re-running the program
08:45.34big_rigwould that refresh it?
08:45.47NickenyfikenStart WAU, install all addons -> ULTIMATE UI PACK!
08:46.38ZarielXD
08:46.42ZealotOnAStickNickenyfiken: Your UI load time, if it didn't crash outright, would be like 20 minutes.
08:46.55ViresEnjoy your errors!
08:47.28ZealotOnAStickIt's tempting to try it, though.
08:47.31NickenyfikenZomg i use the bugsackzor I have NO errorz
08:48.14NickenyfikenI think WAU should have a "Install all" button
08:49.14NickenyfikenAnd silently remove all addons that is not hosted on wowace.com
08:49.36big_rigi reinstalled WAU again, and when i start it, it doesnt detect anything
08:50.04helgetwhat about packs? Like compilation of ace only mods, ppl could make their own (and they would be visible through WAU).. Raid(leader)Pack, pvp, mage, etc. that would be pretty kewl imo :P
08:50.37hanzzonbig_rig; is it the latest version? v1.9.44.654?
08:50.56Zarielui packs should die
08:51.14hanzzonwhat he said^^
08:51.28ZealotOnAStickThese are great ideas!  
08:51.32ZealotOnAStickOoh, I know!
08:51.47ZealotOnAStickWe should force all addon packs to spout mazzlegasm-like messages too.
08:51.48*** join/#wowace Cyrez` (n=freakona@c-24-5-6-64.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
08:52.02big_righanzzon, im downloading from www.wowace.com
08:52.04big_rigso im sure it is
08:52.19big_rigits actually 1.9.44.668
08:53.17Zarielfinaly an AV weekend with 1 > leechers <3
08:53.21kandarzwhy would wow add 4 hours to time()? I saved a time() to db when I abandoned a quest, but then I find out how long ago and it says whatever it was +4 hours
08:54.02GngskGMT+4?
08:54.13kandarzbut I'm GTM -8
08:54.19kandarzerr, GMT
08:54.24GngskPST?
08:54.27Gngskno idea
08:54.31kandarzyeah
08:54.45kandarzand only a 2h difference in server to local time
08:55.07*** join/#wowace ND (n=Miranda@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at)
08:55.18big_righow do i tell if i have .net runtime 2.0?
08:56.04Zarielthe program will either work or it wont
08:56.45kandarzthe 4h only gets added if the difftime is greater then 3600 (1 hour)
08:57.26kandarzI probably just screwed up somewhere and can't see where
08:57.49big_rigwhy wouldnt it work? :p
08:58.06Xinhuansounds like you have a program logic error
08:58.08Zarieldotnet framework not installed = wont work
08:58.11Xinhuanmaybe you might want to pastey your code
08:58.52ZealotOnAStickdo you have your WoW installed in a particularly unusual location?  You have a firewall that's blocking WAU from talking t the server?
08:58.58orionshockgod the svn is slow :|
08:59.19kadrahiljeez, ghostlands world server went down again
08:59.35kandarzcan someone look at it, http://ace.pastey.net/74511
08:59.47*** join/#wowace Sithy__ (n=Sithy@S01060050ba68d008.ed.shawcable.net)
09:01.27orionshock?
09:02.39kandarzI do a date("%I hr %M min ago", amount) where amount = 3602 and it says 5 hours instead of 1 hour
09:03.19vhaarrkandarz: firstly, it's not like the "periods of time" will ever change, so put them in variables outside the function, like local SECOND = 1, local MINUTE = 60, local HOUR = 3600, local DAY = 86400
09:03.25vhaarr%I is 12-hour?
09:03.38vhaarruse %H instead
09:04.28kandarz%H says 17 hours
09:04.36vhaarrno, it says 17:00
09:04.53kandarzbut it should be only 1 hour?
09:05.05vhaarryou don't want to fuck with date here, you're feeding it a unix time
09:05.20kandarzhmmm
09:07.26*** join/#wowace CIA-22 (n=CIA@208.69.182.149)
09:07.31*** join/#wowace Fisker-- (n=blah2@cpe.atm4-0-70242.0x50a01902.hknxx4.customer.tele.dk)
09:07.46vhaarrit's giving you a complete date back for your unix time input, it's not formatting your seconds into hours and minutes
09:07.48*** join/#wowace TecnoBrat (i=tecnobra@tecnobrat.com)
09:07.49vhaarryou've got it all wrong
09:08.28m4rku5~seen Mikk
09:08.31purlmikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 14h 50m 54s ago, saying: 'be lucky if you can cram 5 megabits through a mismatch'.
09:08.31*** join/#wowace kadrahil (i=webfreak@fallingsnow.net)
09:08.32kandarznew to lua :(
09:11.56kandarzhow would you suggest I just format seconds?
09:12.17vhaarrstring.format("%d seconds", seconds)
09:14.19kandarzthat won't format the seconds into hours and minutes though?
09:15.21Xinhuansurely you can divide and modulus that yourself?
09:15.37kandarzthought there might be a function already
09:15.44Xinhuanthere isn't
09:15.48Nickenyfiken%d just means that a digit will go into that string in that position
09:16.29*** join/#wowace Mech0z (i=Mech0z@d40ae5d9.rev.stofanet.dk)
09:18.23*** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@85.252.67.93)
09:19.21big_rig<Zariel> dotnet framework not installed = wont work
09:19.27big_righow do i know if .net framework is installed?
09:19.32big_rigi can run wws stats
09:19.36big_rigand i think it requires .net framework
09:19.43Zariellook in add/remove
09:19.44hanzzonbig_rig; check on windows update
09:20.03buuWWS requires java.
09:20.16big_rigi have both 1.1 and 2.0 microsoft .net frameowrk installed
09:20.21hanzzoncan also check under administrative tools
09:21.03Silviu-ckknight raidcolours are still all white
09:23.20*** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F557C1.versanet.de)
09:23.58*** join/#wowace MrUseful (i=fnbot@kittenguild.com)
09:24.58neeneeAs are group colours I think.
09:25.17Silviu-Yeah in Av all are priests :P white :)
09:25.18neeneeWell, they were last night
09:25.50kandarzcartagrapher groupcolors got updated a few hours ago
09:25.58kandarzckk said possible fix
09:26.01*** join/#wowace big_rigg (n=yeahbaby@adsl-71-141-225-121.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)
09:26.03neeneeok.
09:26.05big_riggi just opened up all ports
09:26.06neeneeI'll try that later then
09:26.12big_riggso wowaceupdater should be able to connect
09:26.47Silviu-kandarz i know i have updated but still white ;p
09:27.01kandarzguess fix didn't work then
09:27.13Silviu-;p
09:27.35CIA-2203fin * r50129 10myBindings2/myBindings2.lua: myBindings2: myBindins2.lua: fix to re-enable bindings keys with modifier keys (thanks to pudds in the SpellBinder thread for pointing the way)
09:27.38*** join/#wowace ven_ (n=ven@i59F557C1.versanet.de)
09:30.26*** join/#wowace Fisker-- (n=blah2@cpe.atm4-0-70242.0x50a01902.hknxx4.customer.tele.dk)
09:31.27GrumYAY new Stargate Atlantis tomorrow *happy dance* *happy dance* *happy dance*
09:33.25neenee=]
09:33.41Vires/r/ someone to fix Modality -.- I'm not a leet Lua programmer like the rest of ya -.-
09:33.44neeneeHm. For some reason Quake Wars is not as good as I thought it would be.
09:34.48Mecdemortis there an "easy" way to check if a string is a permutation of "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8"
09:34.56big_rigghas anyone ever had the same problems as me
09:35.08big_riggi downloaded the program and the addons just dont show
09:35.37neeneebig_rigg, you might have to set the WoW installation directory in the program.
09:35.55Viresbig_rigg: Folder is set correctly? You *do* have Ace addons installed, right? Make sure you hit the Refresh button to cache the latest versions from the server.
09:36.43kandarzF5
09:36.45CIA-2203oridan * r50130 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc):
09:36.45CIA-22SpellReminder:
09:36.45CIA-22- should now track spell miss properly
09:36.45CIA-22- properly tracks the duration of the actual rank cast (should fix problems with people having to reinstall the watches)
09:37.59big_riggvires: wow folder is set
09:38.02big_riggit autodetected it
09:38.18big_riggand i know for sure that i do have ace2 addons installed
09:38.34big_riggwhen i run the program, it says "Ready... (data is not cached old)
09:38.34big_rigg"
09:38.40big_riggon to bottom
09:38.44Mecdemorthit the refresh button
09:38.44ViresHmm...
09:39.03big_riggi pressed the refresh button a bunch of times too
09:39.05big_riggand nothing happened
09:39.13neeneetry pressing F10
09:39.22CIA-2203nargiddley * r50131 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Prevent unneeded tooltip updates, should help with freezing when bags are open
09:39.46big_riggF10 doesnt do anything
09:39.52*** join/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl)
09:40.15Vires~wau2
09:40.15purlhmm... wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2
09:40.24ViresTry that version
09:41.39big_riggi think its downloading
09:41.56big_riggwhere'd you find htat url?
09:43.33big_riggok
09:43.34big_riggit works
09:44.33neeneepurl is a bot :)
09:44.38neeneeVires triggered him
09:45.47big_riggit works great :p
09:45.51big_rigghow do you guys find that link?
09:46.08Corgan~wau2
09:46.09purlhmm... wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2
09:46.30big_riggyeah but the original site
09:46.35big_riggwww.wowace.com says nothing about wau2
09:47.04nevcairielwau2 is not finished yet
09:47.12Corganwell...I would assume that since this is the wowace channel...someone added the link to the bot
09:47.12*** join/#wowace SH^ (i=Zariel@host86-137-125-30.range86-137.btcentralplus.com)
09:47.44orionshockwell fuck... i get to go buy another copy of vista tommarow ;\
09:48.51I_Dwhy would you buy a first copy of it in the first place
09:48.59buuSucker.
09:49.19I_Dhell, vista ain't even worth spending bandwith on
09:49.46cryogenvista is fine once you get rid of uac
09:50.00cryogenand double the amount of system ram
09:50.01I_Dthe typical windows user :D
09:50.05cryogenand upgrade your processor
09:50.08cryogenand your graphics card
09:50.10cryogenand..
09:50.12I_D"it's fine after you do this and that, and change blabla and blabla" :D
09:50.21cryogenI_D: its called irony
09:50.22cryogenlook it up
09:50.25big_riggwow
09:50.27big_riggnow my addons arent loading
09:50.31big_riggwhen im in the game
09:50.40big_riggso it actually created more problems :D
09:51.00I_Dcryogen: it's called humor, it's in the same book as irony ;)
09:51.24cryogenirony is an art, not a form of humour
09:51.35cryogenyou need to be british to appreciate that, i think
09:52.05cryogenanyway vista isnt all that bad really, but if you like xp theres not a huge reason to upgrade
09:52.28cryogenand if you dont have the pc for it, i certainly wouldnt recommend it
09:53.19Mecdemortok i need some more brain power for this, I'm trying to determine if a string is a subset or permutation of "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8" and i cant think of any good way to do it
09:53.28I_DI don't really "like" xp, but it's one of the least shitty os'ses ms has made, so I'll stick with it
09:53.29*** join/#wowace Tupsi (n=lumpi@217.7.101.202)
09:53.33CIA-2203pb_ee1 * r50132 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.toc: LibRockConfig-1.0: Adding Notes-frFR translation in TOC.
09:54.10cryogeni wouldnt go out and buy vista, but my laptop came with it on and i see no reason to get rid of it
09:54.36nevcairieli got vista from university, i still dont use it *shrug
09:54.58nevcairielnot until creative fixes their drivers, anyway
09:55.36cryogenwhat's wrong with them?
09:55.53papyrosMecdemort: perhaps you can start with sorting your string? Then you might compare it with "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8"
09:56.38Mecdemortthats not a bad idea
09:57.37*** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@85.252.67.93)
09:57.39CIA-2203happywarbird * r50133 10TrapBar/TrapBar.toc: TrapBar: - TOC Number updated
09:57.41CIA-2203pb_ee1 * r50134 10Elephant/Elephant.toc: Elephant: Adding X-eMail to TOC.
09:57.44sag_ich_nichtAntiarc
09:57.46sag_ich_nichtfix omen.
09:57.50sag_ich_nichtor threat-1.0 for that matter
09:57.59big_rigghey how come all these addons dont work as soon as i update them through wau 2?
09:58.06*** join/#wowace Dotted (n=Dotted@82.129.20.243)
09:58.11sag_ich_nichtbecause you smell
09:58.12big_riggthey are enabled in wow, but when i log in, none of them pop up
09:58.12sag_ich_nicht~wau
09:58.13purlfrom memory, wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside.
09:58.17sag_ich_nichtnow use normal WAU
09:58.18sag_ich_nichtnot WAU2.
09:58.24big_riggwau doesnt work for em
09:58.28big_riggi dont know why
09:58.32ramozwhat does elephant do?
09:58.33sag_ich_nichtthat is
09:58.34CIA-2203happywarbird * r50135 10PetBar/PetBar.toc: PetBar: -TOC number updated
09:58.35sag_ich_nichtbecause you smell
09:58.38sag_ich_nichtramoz: chatlog
09:58.39big_riggive tried enabling all ports
09:58.43ramozoh
09:58.50big_riggive tried reading the most common issues site
09:58.54big_riggive tried reinstalling the program
09:58.58sag_ich_nichtdoesn't change that you smell.
09:59.02big_riggpressing refresh, looked through every setting in the program
09:59.03sag_ich_nicht:(
09:59.09big_riggmade sure .net framework v2 is installed
09:59.12big_riggi have no idea what it does
09:59.17sag_ich_nichtramoz you help him
09:59.19sag_ich_nichti cba to
09:59.35ramozabout what?
09:59.45*** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-137-152.student.uu.se)
09:59.48ramozwau not working?
10:00.07*** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-031-214.pools.arcor-ip.net)
10:00.32ramozbig_rigg: have you checked "Load Out of Date addons"?
10:00.39big_riggyeah
10:00.56ramoztried downloading them manually?
10:01.15*** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p5485A0CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
10:01.22big_riggwell, my last option is to delete everythign
10:01.25big_riggand redownload everything manually
10:01.41ramozrun wau
10:01.52big_riggwau doesn't work for me, i can't seem to find what the problem si
10:01.54big_riggperhaps you can help :D
10:01.58*** join/#wowace Livid (n=balh@82-38-192-139.cable.ubr04.shef.blueyonder.co.uk)
10:02.04ramoz"doesnt work"?
10:02.06big_riggwhen i run it
10:02.10ramozwont run, wont download?
10:02.21big_riggi dont know whats suppose to happen when i run it
10:02.28big_riggbecause ive never successfully had it working
10:02.31sag_ich_nichtoh wait
10:02.34ramozhow do you know its not working?
10:02.36sag_ich_nichtyou are doing something to it antiar
10:02.37sag_ich_nichtc
10:02.43big_riggbecause i dont see any addons
10:02.52big_riggi dont see anything, the program doesn't do anything
10:02.59ramozpress f10
10:03.04ramozand then "yes"
10:03.23ramozand then you see the log scrolling
10:03.40sag_ich_nichtbig_rigg are you using windows vista
10:03.53big_rigglet me try that
10:03.55big_riggno, im using win xp
10:04.09Cheadsexit wow before you update your addons
10:04.12big_riggive already uninstalled wau becuase i thought wau2 would work, but le tme redownload and reinstall wau
10:04.14ramozand after a while
10:04.29ramozyou can press the "log" option and see whats updated (or not)
10:04.57big_riggok upon installing, a popup window says "The current update mode is not set. Do you update with externals? If you do not know, choose YES"
10:05.01big_riggso im going to press YEs
10:05.08ramozyeah, sure
10:05.20big_riggNow it says "WAU does not back up your addons for you. By clicking ok, you agree that you are ultimately responsible for maintaining backup..... etc'
10:05.21sag_ich_nichtmhm
10:05.23big_riggso i press OK
10:05.27ramozyeah
10:05.30big_riggnow im in the program
10:05.32big_riggand thats it
10:05.33big_rigglol
10:05.35big_riggi dont see anything
10:05.36Cheadspress F8 (preferences)
10:05.38ramozand then you see a list of all your addons, no?
10:05.42big_riggnope, no addons
10:05.44big_riggnothing
10:05.46ramozok
10:05.49Cheadsand set your path to your wow folder
10:05.50ramozpress F8
10:05.53sag_ich_nichtbig_rigg do you have internet explorer 7
10:05.55big_riggok pressing F8
10:05.55ramozand do as Cheads said
10:06.01Cheadsie. mine is set to:  F:\games\World of Warcraft\
10:06.32big_riggmy first games were all dos based
10:06.36big_riggso i know my folder path
10:06.38big_riggand it's correct
10:06.43ramozu sure
10:06.46big_riggits C:\World of Warcraft\
10:06.46big_riggyeah
10:06.49ramozok
10:06.53ramozand no addons listed?
10:06.56big_riggno addons listed
10:06.59Cheadsand you have warcraft installed there?
10:07.02big_riggyeah
10:07.03ramozweird
10:07.26big_riggi even right clicked on World of Warcraft in C:
10:07.29big_riggand verified that its it :p
10:07.30big_riggbecause its 8 gigs
10:07.35Cheadsin explorer... if you browse to C:\World of Warcraft\   which folders do you have there?
10:07.48big_riggcache
10:07.49big_riggdata
10:07.49big_riggerrors
10:08.14big_rigginterface
10:08.14ramozif you brows to C:\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns
10:08.14ramozlotsa folders there?
10:08.14big_riggyes
10:08.14big_rigg198 objects
10:08.14ramozany of them actually Ace?
10:08.20big_riggxperl, titan
10:08.23big_riggomen
10:08.25big_riggsimpleMinimap
10:08.27big_riggSimpleCombatlog
10:08.34big_riggQuartz
10:08.35ramozwerd
10:08.36big_riggPrat
10:08.37big_riggPitbull
10:08.38Cheadsok
10:08.45big_riggomen
10:08.45big_riggetc..
10:08.47ramozyou dont have any weird permissions set on the folder?
10:08.55ramoz(any of them?)
10:08.59big_riggi wouldnt set it manually
10:09.01big_riggit should be the default
10:09.02big_riggbut let me check
10:09.04Cheadsat the buttom.. click on that "Installed"  
10:09.18big_riggok
10:09.21big_riggnow Installed is highlighted
10:09.24big_riggand nothing is there still
10:09.36ramozlol
10:09.38Cheadsand then click on "Standard view"
10:09.38*** join/#wowace baer_ (n=baer@bodom.heim10.tu-clausthal.de)
10:09.45baer_moin.
10:09.49ramozmight be something wrong with your .NET?
10:09.58big_riggnow standard view is highlighted
10:10.06ramozbut the program shouldn't run without .NET
10:10.09Cheadstried to press F5 ?
10:10.16big_rigggoing to press F5
10:10.20sag_ich_nicht[12:05] <sag_ich_nicht> big_rigg do you have internet explorer 7
10:10.24big_riggno
10:10.32sag_ich_nichtthere is your problem.
10:10.46sag_ich_nichtWAU uses the IE7 rendering engine and you broke it's XML parser.
10:10.49sag_ich_nicht(my guess)
10:10.55big_rigg:o
10:11.05big_riggso i have to download IE6?
10:11.08big_riggso i have to download IE7**
10:11.09sag_ich_nichtno
10:11.12sag_ich_nichtno
10:11.12ramoz7*
10:11.19sag_ich_nichtgo open your internet explorer, go to http://update.microsoft.com/
10:11.23sag_ich_nichtthere on the right side
10:11.31sag_ich_nichtis a link that says "upgrade to microsoft update"
10:11.33sag_ich_nichtor something like that
10:11.41sag_ich_nichtclick that link and follow instructions
10:12.42sag_ich_nichtthen when you have microsoft update and not windows update, go to http://update.microsoft.com/ do a custom/advanced search and install every single update that microsoft updates spits out as being available for your computer.
10:12.42big_riggok
10:12.44big_riggim doing all my updates
10:13.02sag_ich_nichtyou probably have a problem with the .NET installation/some outdated dlls
10:13.12big_rigghmm yeah maybe
10:13.14sag_ich_nicht(and you're probably missing a ton of security patches)
10:13.15big_riggbut it runs though
10:13.23big_riggyeah, i know for sure im missing that :p
10:13.26big_riggbut i use firefox
10:13.31sag_ich_nichtuhm
10:13.36sag_ich_nichtthese updates aren't just for IE
10:13.40sag_ich_nichtand IE security
10:13.43sag_ich_nichtthey are for WINDOWS security
10:13.58big_riggyeah you're right
10:14.03big_riggdownloading :D
10:14.08sag_ich_nichti could probably target your machine right now and intrude it without you even noticing if i really wanted to >.>
10:14.14big_riggis there a way to do it without going through windows update
10:14.21*** join/#wowace Qaarh (n=Qaarh@ti211110a340-1567.bb.online.no)
10:14.26ramozdownload them manually
10:14.29ramoz:)
10:14.33CIA-2203oridan * r50136 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
10:14.33CIA-22SpellReminder:
10:14.33CIA-22- silly debug messages (again)
10:14.37sag_ich_nichtyeah. but i don't think you have the time to find each and every update for your OS manually.
10:14.37big_riggi should probably do that instead
10:14.42sag_ich_nichtno
10:14.54sag_ich_nichtyou should probably learn to install WPA-kill and WGA fix
10:15.02sag_ich_nichtbecause you obviously run an illegal windows copy :X
10:15.07big_rigglawl
10:15.14big_riggwhats WPA-kill and WGA fix
10:15.33sag_ich_nichti am not discussing that.
10:15.40CIA-2203oridan * r50137 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
10:15.40CIA-22SpellReminder:
10:15.40CIA-22- write >> commit >> test
10:15.59big_riggDownloading Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool (KB892130) (update 1 of 1)... done!
10:15.59big_riggInitializing installation... done!
10:15.59big_riggInstalling Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool (KB892130) (update 1 of 1)...
10:16.06sag_ich_nichtlol
10:16.06big_riggwhats that lol
10:16.08nevcairielhaha
10:16.18sag_ich_nichtit verifies that your windows copy is not pirated.
10:16.30sag_ich_nichtin b4 microsoft flames you(no, they won't prosecute you)
10:16.40big_riggTo get updates, you must first validate your Windows software. Validation assures that you are using an authentic and fully licensed copy of Windows.
10:16.41big_riggomg...
10:16.43big_riggi knew this would happen
10:16.52sag_ich_nichtjust click continue
10:16.58cryogen11:10 < sag_ich_nicht> WAU uses the IE7 rendering engine and you broke it's XML
10:16.58cryogen<PROTECTED>
10:17.02cryogenthose two things are very not related
10:17.11sag_ich_nichtthey are because they share dlls
10:17.15cryogenno
10:17.23cryogenwua uses the .net xml parser
10:17.23big_riggnow i have to install "Windows Genuine Advantage"
10:17.23SH^lol, did you ever run windowsupdate big_rigg
10:17.24WogroiplI don't know if anyone mentioned it, but sag_ich_nicht is actually working for Microsoft
10:17.37sag_ich_nichtbig_rigg just do it
10:18.05sag_ich_nicht[12:17] <cryogen> wua uses the .net xml parser <--and so does IE7, and they share dlls, and microsoft is retarded about that dll sharing.
10:18.22cryogenWogroipl: so? i work for a company that makes hotel software, doesnt mean i know everything there is to know about hotels :)
10:18.33sag_ich_nichti don't work for MS
10:18.36cryogen(and boy would i not want to)
10:19.15cryogentheres no such thing as dll sharing anymore, it's all SxS crap now and manifests and stuff
10:19.16Wogroiplcryogen: I was joking, since he was getting big_rigg to install the windows validation software
10:19.18SH^i would hate to work at MS support
10:19.28sag_ich_nichtnot like WGA does ANYTHING
10:19.28SH^immagine the ammount of reports you get of broken programs :D
10:19.38sag_ich_nichtit just flames you for having a pirated copy
10:19.46cryogenbut i will accept that it's microsoft.. and they are kinda strange
10:19.52sag_ich_nichtit doesn't even report that back to MS except for a statistic flag that they have 1 more pirated copy
10:20.14big_riggwow...
10:20.15sag_ich_nicht[12:19] <cryogen> theres no such thing as dll sharing anymore, it's all SxS crap now and manifests and stuff <--that's what they make you believe
10:20.17ViresI just use my college's key... lol
10:20.19sag_ich_nichtdon't believe their lies
10:20.23big_riggi opened up a whole new can of worms
10:20.30sag_ich_nichtbig_rigg o rly
10:20.38big_riggyeah
10:20.47sag_ich_nichtwhy is that
10:20.49big_riggall these security updates and stuff
10:20.49sag_ich_nichtlemme guess
10:20.54sag_ich_nicht500 updates
10:20.56big_riggyeah
10:21.00sag_ich_nichtyou probably have a rootkit on your PC
10:21.09sag_ich_nichtyou should PROBABLY get a virus scanner and a rootkit detector.
10:21.10sag_ich_nicht:X
10:21.15big_rigglol
10:21.17big_riggso now what do i do :p
10:21.21big_riggwindows update fails
10:21.22sag_ich_nichtinstall all the updates
10:21.26big_riggi cant get into windows update
10:21.31sag_ich_nichtwhat does it say.
10:21.47cryogenare you even running SP2? o_O
10:21.55Zarielare you runnign XP?
10:21.55sag_ich_nichtcryogen probably not
10:21.58sag_ich_nichtyes he is
10:22.07cryogenstep away from the machine
10:22.12diecktime(looking for the error, installing virus scanner, rootkit and more, repairing all that stuff) >> time(reinstall Windows)
10:22.15big_riggit just keeps bringing me to this site
10:22.18big_rigg"you need to validate"
10:22.19big_riggblah blah blah
10:22.24Zarielye
10:22.25cryogenthen validate :)
10:22.26Zarielvalidate
10:22.37sag_ich_nichtclick the validate button below that text oO
10:22.37Zarielthen you just need to google if you have a pirate copy
10:22.53big_riggu click it
10:23.02big_riggand it brings you to the WinXP sales page
10:23.05big_rigg$150
10:23.08sag_ich_nichtoic
10:23.08sag_ich_nichtlol
10:23.10sag_ich_nichtwell
10:23.20dieckbig_rigg: http://search.ebay.com/_Windows-XP-Professional_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfasiZ1QQfbfmtZ1QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsabfmtsZ2QQsacatZ41888QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsascsZ2QQsatitleZQQsbrbinZt
10:23.30Fisker--~seen antiarc
10:23.33purlantiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (4d 12h 1m 13s) #wowace (4d 12h 1m 13s). Has said a total of 438 messages. Is idling for 3h 7m 28s, last said: '?'.
10:23.36Qaarhso, to lead the whole thing away from this discussion.. Anyone know of an alternative to GroupCalendar?
10:23.42CIA-2203rabbit * r50138 10BattleChat/ (BattleChat-deDE.lua BattleChat-enUS.lua BattleChat.lua): BattleChat: Fix swapping sides and add missing locales.
10:24.22ZarielMY DAMN COFFEE CUP ALWAYS RUNS OUT OF COFEE!
10:24.25*** join/#wowace FRUCHT (i=H@dslb-084-058-179-214.pools.arcor-ip.net)
10:24.45ViresIV Coffee?
10:24.47dieckZariel: http://www.stewartsnurseries.co.uk/newsblog/uploaded_images/Imported-Photos-00004-738814.JPG
10:24.51QaarhZariel: That's what I call bad coffee. If it runs out too fast.
10:25.05Qaarhnow that's what I call a cup.
10:25.13sag_ich_nichthttp://thepiratebay.org/tor/3584020/XPSP2.x86.Activation_WGA_10_step_Guide.OnePack.SLK sweden is great.
10:25.15sag_ich_nichtreally.
10:25.27FRUCHTlo
10:25.28Zarielneeds more insulating
10:25.36Zarielcoffee would go cold
10:25.44sag_ich_nichtor MAYBE
10:25.49FRUCHTanybody present who might know how to resize/move the littletrouble bar?
10:25.55sag_ich_nichtyou should just use this: http://www.p2plife.com/forums/Official_muBlinder_Page-t320.html
10:25.57sag_ich_nichtit's not that hard.
10:25.59sag_ich_nichtreally.
10:26.13*** join/#wowace Kain___ (n=Highwind@ip72-209-239-215.dc.dc.cox.net)
10:26.18dieckZariel: or even http://supplementalscience.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/big-cup-of-coffee.jpg :)
10:26.45Zarielheck yes
10:26.55Qaarhso... no alternatives known to GroupCalendar?
10:27.06dieckif THAT runs out of coffee, you should visit a doctor and let him close the hole in your stomach :)
10:27.13Kebinusanhmm ckknight, my groupcolors still seem messed up
10:27.52ViresI'm waitin' for CIA-22 to say they fixed Modality -.- From what I can tell, though completely random debug.. is that Modality is trying to access the bar's config before it's actually there.. if that makes any sense.
10:30.26MecdemortIs there an event fired when you join/leave a group
10:31.45*** join/#wowace Adirelle|Work (n=Adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net)
10:31.55Adirelle|Workhi there
10:32.22Ellipsis_Mecdemort: PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED perhaps?
10:33.10orionshockahh ... bliz raid UI fooked
10:33.12orionshockwhat do i do?
10:33.25Chompersuse Grid
10:33.27[dRaCo]delete SV
10:33.27ramozinstall grid
10:33.40orionshockwhat SV
10:33.43orionshockand i hate grid
10:33.48Ellipsis_what's it doing, orionshock?
10:33.58ramozuse praid then
10:34.05orionshockit orphaned and ghosted a frame in the middle of my screen
10:34.05[dRaCo]BlizzardRaidFrames or w/e it's called.
10:34.15orionshockBlizzard_RaidUI\Blizzard_RaidUI.lua:1062: Usage: RaidPullout1:SetPoint("point" [, region or nil] [, "relativePoint"] [, offsetX, offsetY])
10:34.25orionshockBlizzard_RaidUI\Blizzard_RaidUI.lua:1062: Usage: RaidPullout2:SetPoint("point" [, region or nil] [, "relativePoint"] [, offsetX, offsetY])
10:34.30orionshockoh same
10:35.08*** part/#wowace MrUseful (i=fnbot@kittenguild.com)
10:35.23*** join/#wowace MrUseful (i=fnbot@kittenguild.com)
10:35.32Ellipsis_that's awesome
10:35.50orionshocki know
10:35.52orionshockain't it
10:36.04orionshock<PROTECTED>
10:36.07orionshock<PROTECTED>
10:36.14orionshockand that worked
10:39.12Fisker--BAU
10:39.13Fisker--BAI
10:39.27*** join/#wowace Tain (n=tain@c-24-218-72-243.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
10:42.58Ellipsishmm
10:43.25Ellipsiscan't decide whether to spend hours trying to identify my memory issue or just leave it and play
10:43.59sag_ich_nichtyour memory issue is that you don't have GCTweak installed
10:44.44hanzzonckknight; ?
10:44.58Ellipsissag_ich_nicht, not really :P
10:45.02Ellipsismy memory issue isn't garbage
10:45.25Ellipsisalso: /sigh at another new Blizz bug
10:46.43cryogenwhy sigh, some of the bugs in 2.2 are awesome
10:46.48cryogeni love the res bug
10:46.52cryogeni hope they keep it in
10:46.52ramozwill GCTweak interfere with Performance2Fu's garbage collection?
10:47.25*** join/#wowace pb_ee1 (n=nospam@83.145.75.66)
10:47.32Ellipsiscryogen: for every awesome thing like res bug, there's ten stupid things
10:47.34sag_ich_nichtramoz no.
10:47.43cryogenhavent noticed any myself
10:47.46cryogenso <3 res bug
10:47.47sag_ich_nichtwhat res bug?
10:47.49Ellipsisdoesn't GCTweak just run GCs based on performance or something?
10:47.49ramozcool
10:47.58cryogenyour spirit based regen isnt turned off while you are dead
10:47.59helgetanyone know approximatly when the 2.3 patch will come?
10:48.02sag_ich_nichtEllipsis yes. you still fail for not having it
10:48.03cryogenso if you die, wait a few mins, get ressed
10:48.04sag_ich_nichtinstall nao
10:48.06Ellipsisif you're dead for a while you regen mana while dead, so when you get ressed you can come back with full mana
10:48.07cryogenfull hp/mana
10:48.15sag_ich_nichtLOL
10:48.16sag_ich_nichtnice one
10:48.16Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: I manually GC quite regularly
10:48.18cryogenEllipsis: health too
10:48.22Ellipsisrly?
10:48.24cryogeny
10:48.25sag_ich_nichtEllipsis you smell
10:48.31cryogenwe did lurker last night
10:48.37Ellipsisit's not noticable for me...I is a warlock with very little spi >_>
10:48.42cryogeni died to spout(lol @ me) 1st emgerge
10:48.46cryogenso i was dead for 10 mins
10:48.50cryogenwhen i ressed i was full on both
10:48.53Ellipsisnice
10:49.04Brunerswhat is the dogtag to show talentspec?
10:49.35Brunersis it just [TalentSpec] ?
10:49.48Ellipsisyeah
10:49.55Ellipsisthat shows numbers, and [TalentTree] shows the name
10:50.00orionshocklua> x=false ; y = "false"; assert(x=y)
10:50.05Ellipsis~seen Nargiddley
10:50.07purlnargiddley is currently on #wowi-lounge (3h 56m 30s) #wowace (3h 56m 30s), last said: 'heading to bed real soon, post it in the thread i'll look at it over the weekend'.
10:50.12*** join/#wowace Dotted (n=Dotted@pdpc/supporter/student/dotted)
10:50.13orionshockcladbot
10:50.14Brunersdoesnt seem to work with other players
10:50.15orionshock...boo
10:50.24Brunersworks when i hover myselfe only
10:50.25Ellipsisderr o.O
10:50.32EllipsisBruners: they have to have Rock installed
10:50.40Brunersahh ok
10:51.28Grumit's hax that your client shares that private info
10:51.31[Ammo]and live in 1984
10:51.53Grumcryogen: you nub .. dying of spout .. lol :D
10:51.58cryogenGrum: hush
10:52.02cryogenGrum: (i died 3 times)
10:52.05*** join/#wowace a-stray-cat (n=chris@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
10:52.15GrumLOL of spout? :D
10:52.18cryogenyeah
10:52.20Grumhehe
10:52.26cryogeni havent raided in 2 months
10:52.27Grumwas it your first night there ? :)
10:52.30cryogeni had no boss mod
10:52.31cryogenand
10:52.33cryogeni was talking in /p
10:52.47Grum~replace cryogen
10:52.47purlACTION replaces cryogen with a very small shell script
10:52.49cryogen(aka - i was slacking big time)
10:53.00Grumhehe
10:53.09cryogenplus the res bug was so awesome i had to abuse it
10:53.21Grumlo
10:53.25Grumyou slacker
10:53.27Thelynabut still ... dying to spout? :|
10:53.34Grumyou wouldn't last more than 15 minutes in our raids hehe
10:53.38cryogenyeah well
10:53.41cryogenim a raid leader, so its ok!
10:53.46GrumLOL
10:53.51Grumseriously? O.o
10:53.58cryogen(i wasnt *the* raid leader, but i do hold the rank :p)
10:54.12Ellipsis~lart cryogen
10:54.12purlgives cryogen a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades"
10:54.27Ellipsispurl, I love you
10:54.27purlYou love you?
10:54.34Ellipsis...yes, that's what I said
10:54.36cryogenthe difference between me and any other idiot who gets hit by spout is i know why and how i got it :)
10:54.37Ellipsis(?!)
10:54.43Grumhahaha pwned by purl
10:54.43cryogeneveryone else is like "whats spout?"
10:54.53Grumpurl </3 Ellipsis
10:55.10Ellipsispurl h8s me
10:55.11ThelynaI'm seriously considering posting a list of shame on my guild's websites - you know, people that die to cave-in, people that die to arcane orb, people that die to spout
10:55.26EllipsisI died to cave-in
10:55.30Thelyna*website, not websites
10:55.31cryogenThelyna: orbs isnt fair :(
10:55.35Ellipsisthen again that was when we were learning Gruul...
10:55.40Ellipsisand people sucked at it
10:55.46cryogenits not that hard to get owned by orbs
10:56.01sag_ich_nichtpurl i hate you
10:56.02purlYou hate you?
10:56.07Thelynaneither is it hard to get owned by spout, you just need to stand still
10:56.18Thelynaavoiding both of them is easy
10:56.19cryogenspout and orbs are not comparable :)
10:56.25sag_ich_nichtpurl no you
10:56.29cryogenorbs bug graphically a lot
10:56.35cryogenand avoiding them somewhat relies on other people
10:56.40Ellipsiso.O
10:56.45Thelynaalthough avoiding orbs can be made slightly harder if the rest of your raid group is selfish (strafing instead of backing out of orbs)
10:56.49Ellipsisbug graphically = zomg invisible void zones? XD
10:57.01cryogenbug graphically = zomg orb just disappeared and then exploded on me
10:57.04GrumThelyna: that where you go wrong .. backing out is stupid
10:57.05Thelynano, just a lag between when they blow up and when they explode
10:57.14sag_ich_nichtinvisible void zone=LOL YOU PULLED HIM ON A CARPET
10:57.26Ellipsisthey blow up and explode and those are two separate events? XD
10:57.39Ellipsissag_ich_nicht o.O
10:57.50ThelynaGrum: it depends on whether your objective is to maximise dps on VR or to minimise chances of stupid f-ups
10:58.05Grumwell with people moving back - and getting another orb on them
10:58.13sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: carpets tend to break floor effect :(
10:58.15sag_ich_nicht*effects
10:58.15Grumthe orb is falling in an unexpected location and that will kill way more people
10:58.21Thelynagwuh
10:58.27Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: yes, but soes do having particular graphics cards
10:58.38Thelynayou have probably 20 people spread around that room
10:58.39Ellipsiss/soes do/so does/
10:58.50EllipsisI don't speak English, I just play one on TV
10:58.53Ellipsis<_<
10:59.09Thelynathat's *more* than enough space for everyone to have their own space for orbs
10:59.28cryogeni hate VR
10:59.32cryogenit is not a totem friendly encounter
10:59.35cryogeni like totems
11:00.04cryogen(one of my spout deaths last night was caused by me running for a mana tide tick or two)
11:00.23Grumjust time stuff
11:00.27Grumit's not like they are unexpected O.o
11:00.30ThelynaI hate VR, but mostly because it's retarded
11:00.41*** join/#wowace dabujo (i=xx@p54AC9EA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
11:00.56Chompershow so?
11:01.03cryogeni also managed to pull aggro no less than 5 times on hydross last night
11:01.08Thelynastrangely I didn't mind it so much when I was raiding on my paladin and got to sit in melee and keep up JoW (and soak up healing for free mana)
11:01.16cryogenthankfully im not always retarded and none of those resulted in a wipe
11:01.22Grumcryogen: seriously ...
11:01.30Grumpulling aggro ... i hope you are a tank
11:01.35Grumoh nevermind that would be equally bad
11:01.42Thelynapulling aggro on hydross isn't necessarily bad ... as long as you don't twitch him over the line
11:01.57cryogenGrum: no, im a shadowpriest (aggro was on phase change from miss-times dots)
11:02.00cryogenbut a) fade ftw
11:02.03cryogenand b) i know where to stand
11:02.15Ellipsisurgh
11:02.16Grumso you are a noob without timers ^^
11:02.16cryogenmiss-timed
11:02.22cryogenGrum: nah
11:02.31cryogenwell actually yes i had no boss mods on hydross
11:02.31Ellipsishay guise I can see through terrain
11:02.34cryogenbut i dont need them there
11:02.34Ellipsisand buildings
11:02.41cryogeni just forgot myself a couple of times
11:02.45Ellipsisand the inside of my flying mount x.x
11:02.48cryogenlike i said, no raids for 2 months :)
11:03.14Ellipsisman this bug would be fun in PvP
11:03.54*** join/#wowace Garns (n=blub@muedsl-82-207-238-063.citykom.de)
11:04.00cryogenGrum: but yeah you're right, i would have kicked myself from the raid after about 30 minutes if i was leading :)
11:04.06Grumhehe
11:04.20cryogenim special, im allowed to be retarded from time to time
11:04.34Grumhaha
11:04.37Ellipsisyou certainly are "special" ;P
11:04.38sag_ich_nichtEllipsis HAY /console gxrestart
11:04.41Grum~literal cryogen
11:04.49Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: HAY I already have it keybound
11:04.58EllipsisI use it that often
11:05.04Grumpurl, cryogen is <reply><cryogen> im special, im allowed to be retarded from time to time
11:05.04purlokay, Grum
11:05.05Thelynathat's probably a bad thing
11:05.16Ellipsisalthough there are at least two graphical glitches I get that aren't fixed by anything short of a relog
11:05.19cryogen:)
11:05.37cryogencould have been worse, we could have done leo last night!
11:05.43cryogengod that would have been fun
11:05.53cryogenid have died on the first whirlwind
11:05.57Grumlol
11:06.04Thelynacryogen: quick question on morogrim, do you keep VE up or no?
11:06.06Ellipsiscryogen, why do you even bother showing up? :P
11:06.09Grumwe wiped all evening on Leo last night O.o
11:06.13Grumthat was like .. horrible
11:06.21cryogenThelyna: i havent been at a raid we tried him yet
11:06.33Thelynaah k
11:06.33cryogenEllipsis: i came back from a raiding break, gotta start somewhere!
11:06.40ramozthey changed stuff in SSC?
11:06.44EllipsisI came back from a raiding break too
11:06.48EllipsisI'm not even keyed for kara yet
11:06.50cryogenThelyna: but usually i do not use VE on pulls with adds
11:06.56cryogenThelyna: it usually amounts to a fast self-death
11:06.58Ellipsisand I still don't screw up that badly :P
11:07.19Ellipsis(well, ok, I do pull aggro a lot 'cause I like to push it...but that's what soul shatter is for)
11:07.42cryogenwell i may have screwed up, but there were personal screwups
11:07.45cryogeni didnt impact the raid much
11:07.47*** join/#wowace davethedude (n=dave@58.175.64.105)
11:07.49EggiThelyna: VE + murlocs is a dead priest :<
11:07.55cryogennot like some of the screwups last night..
11:08.00*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)
11:08.07cryogenlike tanks not being able to tank hydross on phase changes
11:08.46GrumEllipsis: only pushing? :(
11:08.50cryogeni can understand unlucky combos of misses, but a whole 15 seconds that hes on the wrong tank? pfft
11:08.51ThelynaEggi: I know, but it's a choice - if you keep VE up you can use SW:D the rest of the time (as well as pushing a lot of healing on your group) at the cost of having to twiddle your thumbs for 5-10 seconds until the murlocs hit the paladin tank/aoe deathzone
11:09.08Eggiyou can use sw:d also if you don't use ve
11:09.29Eggionly don't sw:d after an earthquake
11:09.32Thelynawe only had six healers for the fight, so healing was tight
11:09.37[dRaCo]yeah, but that kills you healer's mana
11:09.38cryogeni almost never use sw:d
11:09.42Eggino
11:09.52Eggisw:d gives your healers more mana back then they loose by healing you
11:09.54cryogenbut thats mainly because i dont get on well with healers
11:10.05ThelynaEggi: I normally go in the range dps group
11:10.10ViresI'm still looking for a guild that doesn't A) break up about a week after I join, B) Expect me to join wearing nothing but epics, and C) Isn't full of complete idiots. I haven't had much luck =(
11:10.23cryogenVires: let me know if you ever find c)
11:10.26cryogenim still looking
11:10.29Thelynabecause our healers are good at mana conservation and our mages are all either arcane or fire
11:10.32Ellipsisguild name: <Rkelly pvped on my face>
11:10.36Ellipsis~facepalm
11:10.36purlACTION facepalms at the situation
11:10.39ViresDon't go to Maiev.. nothing but morons =(
11:10.50[dRaCo]my guild! we've got like 6 or 7 good people! ^^
11:10.52Eggithen tell your raid leader to change that... shadow priests are the main mana source for healers and not for stupid mages who want to safe mana pots...
11:11.04cryogenWTS Shadowpriest to some horde guild
11:11.09cryogenim not always retarded, honest
11:11.23EllipsisVires, you are not alone
11:11.32ViresI have a 70 UD Warlock and NE Druid on PvE Realms and 70 tauren warrior on a PvP realm =/
11:11.53Ellipsisalthough I usually add a condition that guild members (or at least officers) need to be able to spell out 3-4 letter words like "you" instead of "u"
11:12.06cryogenseriously, my server sucks, i'd seriously consider moving if i could find a guild not full of complete morons
11:12.17davethedudeman its hrad 2 type and tank
11:12.18ThelynaEggi: have you ever looked at the mana consumption of a fire mage? a 10/48/3 mage will run oom inside 4 minutes with full potion usage (assuming zero latency and a 1s/8f rotation)
11:12.25ViresPre-BC warlock was my main and was in a guild with competent people.. cleared to C'Thun.. did have some issues with Twins.. never did Ouro or Vicidus though
11:12.39Thelynacryogen: excepting amp damage situations (netherspite blue beam, curator evocate etc.), if you have VE up you should easily heal yourself through SW:D damage
11:12.45GrumVires: any guild that does not require epics is a starting guild (if you want to raid)
11:13.00cryogenThelyna: ya, i totally need to optimise my dps rotation
11:13.01ViresYeah
11:13.07cryogenit isnt nearly as good as it could be, im sure
11:13.14ViresDoesn't seem to be any starters anymore.. leveled too late I guess
11:13.17cryogenThelyna: what do you do, ooi?
11:13.17GrumVires: we have socialspots for that in our guild :)
11:13.23EggiThelyna: a) more points into arcane... b) stop dps c) use more mana pots
11:13.28Ellipsisagreed Vires
11:13.30cryogenGrum: wtb ginvite!
11:13.36MegalonThelyna: i don't think you heal yourself through sw:d on curator evocation :p
11:13.42Ellipsiscoming back to raiding at this point is really freaking difficult
11:13.51Grumaka: you can occasionally join raids if we need people (hardly ever) but you have the benefit of going on guild-pugged-kara runs
11:13.55cryogenMegalon: he said "excepting amp damage situations"
11:13.56ThelynaMegalon: actually I used to, before I got 1k +dmg
11:13.58EllipsisGrum: WANT
11:14.06Eggireally... use assessment and look how much mana pots your mages use... and you will be surprised... im sure <.<
11:14.18GrumEllipsis: WANT what? :)
11:14.19Thelynaalthough my best style self-kill was on netherspite
11:14.22Ellipsisyour guild =[
11:14.29SunTsu.o0( "You require epics to join your guild; I have epic dices, does that count?" )
11:14.42Grumoh .. on application, pics are required
11:14.45EllipsisI have epic fail, will that get me in?
11:14.45ThelynaI hogged the blue beam for an entire phase, and at 48 stacks I hit netherspite with an 8k sw:d and ate 28k return damage
11:14.46cryogenGrum: you need me in your guild
11:14.51Grumhehehe
11:15.10Grumjust one downside, you'll get killed if you whine to get into any raid you should not be in ^^
11:15.11EllipsisGrum: WTT pics for a lock on your server :P
11:15.25Grummm my gf just leveled a lock to 70 .. O.o
11:15.30ViresMy best self kill was in AQ20. The Anubisath's reflected Shadow.... hit myself with Curse of Doom then lifetapped.. wanted to see if I could kill someone with a Doomguard. No luck =(
11:15.36dabujoI'm looking for a history of this channel...purl saves one, right?
11:15.37EllipsisWTT me for your gf? XD
11:15.43Grumnot without pics first
11:15.47*** part/#wowace davethedude (n=dave@58.175.64.105)
11:15.48EllipsisVires: fail. :P
11:15.58*** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F54FB0.versanet.de)
11:15.59Ellipsisshadow ward can't save you now!
11:16.01Grumi love those shadoompriest insta-deaths @ Curator :D
11:16.01cryogenGrum: what is your guild anyway? :P
11:16.04vhaarrdabujo: yes he does
11:16.04Thelynacryogen: a lot depends on the fight - like on VR I don't use VE and consequently don't use SW:D because of threat issues, and most times on morogrim the same applies
11:16.17Grumcryogen: doomhammer eu, atlas shrugged
11:16.31Thelynabut typically my priority is VT > SW:P > MB > SW:D > VE > flay
11:16.45Grumi usuablle PoM a shadoompriest
11:16.49ViresEU? =/ Damn, I'm on US.
11:16.49cryogenrepeat while the cooldowns are up i guess
11:16.49Grumso he can just safely SW:D
11:16.52Eggiif your gear is good enough
11:16.53cryogenGrum: pom ftw
11:17.01Eggichange it to vt > mb > sw:p...
11:17.13cryogenexactly what i do, more or less
11:17.23cryogeni still lack a considerable amount of dps on other shadowpriests though
11:17.23Eggisw:p has no cd so it is better to use mb before
11:17.41Grumit has global cd
11:18.04Eggibut not 5.5 sec or more...
11:18.07Grumand it's not 'better' to use it early tbh
11:18.08JoshBorkeit's faster to do MB -> SW:D because the global cooldown has finished for MB when you cast SW:D
11:18.18cryogenGrum: pff. alliance!
11:18.23Grumcryogen: ofc :D
11:18.27Grumdeathtoshamans!
11:18.29cryogennot a pve server by any chance?
11:18.32Grumit is
11:18.34a^i`SmaNimho its a waste to cast VE that late
11:18.37cryogeninteresting
11:18.40cryogenmy mage is on a pve server
11:18.45a^i`SmaNthe later u cast it the more u lose @ recovery
11:18.45cryogenand is a gnome!
11:18.49GrumgnomeFTW!
11:18.54cryogenhowever, she is only lvl 60 :)
11:19.09Grummm unless you are nice etc we might take in a non-lvl70 social :D
11:19.11cryogenbut has awesome pre naxx gear!
11:19.12Grumhappens occasionally
11:19.18Thelynaa^i`SmaN: huh? you shouldn't need much healing that early anyway
11:19.38a^i`SmaNjust a matter of habit i guess
11:19.39Eggia^i`SmaN: but you lose dps if you start with ve before you used sw:d and mb
11:19.41*** join/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net)
11:19.50*** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net)
11:20.51GrumEggi: DPS is not the most important thing - not getting aggro is . if your MB crits you might just get it :D
11:21.10Egginormaly not
11:21.11ViresOut of boredom been leveling a shaman.. but bindings/bars are messed up now that my dynamic switcher (aka Modality) is fubar =/
11:21.30Eggihunter will start with md so you should not get aggro with a mb crit
11:21.39cryogenif you pull with md there should be no worry about aggro
11:21.45Grumtrue
11:21.50Grumbut you dont always do that :D
11:22.05Ellipsis~emo
11:22.06purl/wrists
11:22.08cryogenalso you can start with fade before the pull
11:22.12cryogenif you really want to be careful
11:22.13EllipsisLFG is so empty =[
11:22.31orionshockwtb functional chronomiter
11:22.32GrumEllipsis: you can move to our srever if you really want .. so we can make fun of you there
11:22.56EllipsisGrum: I can use an EU account but I'd have to level up a lock all over again =[
11:23.57Grumawwww
11:25.03sag_ich_nicht~QQ
11:25.04purldpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream!
11:25.19Ellipsissigh
11:25.25sag_ich_nichtmhm
11:25.26GrumEllipsis: you have to make a gnome though
11:25.30Ellipsisew no way
11:25.33sag_ich_nichtis that one response or multiple
11:25.35sag_ich_nicht~QQ
11:25.36purldpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream!
11:25.36EllipsisI'm allergic to gnomes
11:25.41sag_ich_nichtmhm ,one.
11:25.42sag_ich_nichtfail.
11:25.45Grumno go then!
11:25.50cryogenagian?
11:25.55cryogen~literal QQ
11:25.56purl"qq" is "<reply>dpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream!"
11:26.10xt~                                    
11:26.10EllipsisI have to screenshot my UI, alt-tab, paste, and look at the result to know if I'm doing it right
11:26.21EllipsisI think I fail't
11:26.23GrumEllipsis: what are you doing? :D
11:26.26*** join/#wowace ie|Stiffe (n=hehe@81-231-242-209-no39.tbcn.telia.com)
11:26.29cryogenpurl: no, qq is <reply>dpkg: touch me there again and I'll scream!
11:26.30purlokay, cryogen
11:26.36EllipsisGrum: aligning stuff at the bottom of my screen
11:26.37sag_ich_nichtuhm
11:26.43EllipsisI have 2 rows of dead pixels on this monitor
11:26.43sag_ich_nichti think the typo had a reason cryogen
11:26.49cryogensag_ich_nicht: :(
11:26.53Ellipsisso I can't see the bottom edges of my chat frames and action bars
11:26.54GrumEllipsis: LOL :D
11:26.56cryogenpurl: no, qq is <reply>dpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream!
11:26.57purlokay, cryogen
11:26.59Thelynahttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Hellscream&n=Proxy ... is EU armory broken for anyone else?
11:27.00cryogenthere :p
11:27.01MrUsefulChallenger(IV) Proxy, 70 Troll Priest (14/0/47, Shadow) <Lunacy> | HP: 7381 # MP: 8220 # Resilience: 32 (-0.81%) | +ShadowDMG: 1238 # SpellCrit: 10.26% | LHK's: 5338 | http://tinyurl.com/279oym
11:27.15cryogeni dont see how that could be funny, even with context
11:27.16cryogenbut whatever
11:27.17sag_ich_nicht!c eu gul'dan ruknor
11:27.19ThraeBotsag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/8/53). 7757 HP; 4818 Mana; 101 mana regen; 13 mp5; 7376 Armour; 1412 AP; 232.600 Melee DPS; 24.27% melee crit; 69 melee hit; 22 +spell dmg/heal; 43 holy dmg (65); 9.33% dodge; 5.36% block; 5 resilience;[[ TBR: 977 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hkom9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cuer8 ][ Updated: Fri Sep 28 07:42:21 2007 EST ]]
11:27.21sag_ich_nichtworks for me.
11:27.21sag_ich_nicht:P
11:27.30_raneany ideas why my minimap zoom level is resetting all the time?
11:27.34GrumThelyna: works like a charm here
11:27.44Grum_rane: Cartographer -> Look N Feel options
11:27.44Thelynacan you see if they have any buffs active?
11:27.52Eggi!c eu Wrathbringer Eggii
11:27.54ThraeBotEggi: Eggii, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 8901 HP; 9675 Mana; 270 mana regen; 80 mp5; 158 spell crit; 156 spell hit; 1069 +spell dmg; 1046 +heal; 111 frost dmg (1180); 286 shadow dmg (1355); 5.54% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10); 37 shadow resist; +33 all resists (+10 frost);[[ TBR: 1134 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqxvdn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lalzm ][ Updated: Fri Sep 28 07:42:56 2007 EST ]]
11:27.57GrumThelyna: on the right side
11:28.12Grumso nothing active
11:28.14Ellipsis_rane: could be a minimap addon setting or another addon like TheBigPicture
11:28.21ThelynaI know, but I wasn't seeing item tooltips there
11:28.22_ranei have simpleminimap
11:28.37ViresThat'd do it
11:28.45Thelynaalso, the tabs across the top aren't labeled for me
11:28.53Thelynai.e. armory is borkzored
11:29.17Ellipsis_rane: disable autozoom
11:29.28ViresThelyna: Armory was like that for me a while ago.. not sure what caused it. DIdn't look right in Firefox, but IE showed it fine. Worked normally in Firefox a day later or so.
11:29.28Grumnot sure if it was in simpleminimap or in Carto
11:29.30Grumin either of em :D
11:30.43_raneEllipsis: ah, thanks
11:30.56Ellipsis^-^
11:31.22Grumstop helping people Ellipsis, you're not that nice normally!
11:31.31cryogenheh
11:32.16Olison[pitbull] anyone else has the problem that partyframes are shown in raid, even when the option to hide them is enabled?
11:32.30Trell_Olison, I just enable and disable again when that happens
11:32.38Olisondid that
11:32.39ViresIs the raid < 5 members?
11:32.40EllipsisGrum :(
11:32.45EllipsisI like helping people
11:32.47Ellipsisand I try to be nice
11:32.56Trell_you rarely succeed, Ellipsis
11:32.58Trell_<3
11:33.01OlisonVires: no, its AV :/
11:33.05Ellipsisouch Trell_, ouch
11:33.08ViresHmm
11:33.10Ellipsisand after all I've done for you!
11:33.20Trell_actually, Vires was more helpful than you
11:33.24EllipsisI tried =[\
11:33.26Trell_Vires solved my problem, you didn't
11:33.28Trell_hehe
11:33.31GrumEllipsis: you never did anything for me .. sigh
11:33.34Vireslol, I did? o.0
11:33.43EllipsisGrum: you never giev'd addons
11:33.48Trell_wasn't it you that told me about the overflow whatever it was on network card settings
11:33.59Trell_disabling something to fix the cache error
11:34.23ViresThe Checksum Offload? Someone else linked it but I recounted that in the past it was messing with my ability to stay connected when turning in quests.
11:34.35Ellipsisin my own defense, I did offer to find you links about other solutions Trell_ :P
11:34.41EllipsisI just told you that they didn't work for me
11:34.49Ellipsis(and they didn't)
11:35.00Trell_nor me, Ellipsis, then Vires came along, in his shining armor
11:35.12Trell_actually scratch that
11:35.22Ellipsiseven the network settings didn't fix my problem
11:35.23Trell_he's right, it *was* someone else :P
11:35.30Ellipsisand I tried that with multiple network cards
11:35.32GrumEllipsis: others just ask simple question and you help em .. not for me .. no .. tssk
11:35.43EllipsisGrum, you never ask simple questions :P
11:35.51Vires[06:47:00] [Tuikku] http://faq.wow-europe.com/en/article.php?id=028
11:36.46Trell_someone ring my client and tell him I can't make our meeting at 15:00 because my warlock is nearing 57, and I need to hit 58 and thus Outlands today, preferably.
11:36.48Grumi did :D
11:36.49ViresAnd my armor is rather dingy.. too many dwarf pieces from AV earlier.
11:37.50Ellipsissigh
11:37.55EllipsisI am such a nerd
11:38.06Ellipsiswell, and such a girl at the same time
11:38.21EllipsisI wanted to see if my hair was messed up because I slept on it wet last night
11:38.30Ellipsisbut I didn't want to leave the computer because I'm lazy and in LFG
11:38.31ViresI'd start writing code to prove my nerd-i-ness, but I'm lazy at the moment.
11:38.38Ellipsisso...I used the back of my ipod as a mirror
11:38.40Ellipsis>_>
11:39.16cryogenEllipsis: a real girl would have had a real mirror within reach at all times
11:39.35Ellipsiswe don't have a single mirror except the one attached to the bathroom wall :P
11:39.49Ellipsisback home I used to have mirrors everywhere in my room
11:39.52Ellipsisbut my bf doesn't like it XD
11:40.09cryogenyou dont wear makeup i guess?
11:40.13Trell_I saw the cauldron icons have changed too, not sure I like them :/
11:40.18EllipsisI do
11:40.27Ellipsisnot a lot, though
11:40.32cryogendont have like 500 producrts with their own mirror?
11:40.36Ellipsisnope
11:40.36cryogenproducts*
11:40.59EllipsisI have like, 3 products, and none have mirrors because I don't carry them around with me
11:41.02cryogenmy wife doesnt wear much and even she has one of those
11:41.05*** join/#wowace Stanzilla2 (n=bs@p54995618.dip.t-dialin.net)
11:41.09Ellipsisand really, if I do need a mirror, I just use my iPod
11:41.14cryogenadmittedly, it probably isnt in reach at most times :)
11:42.02Ellipsisactually I think I have a lip gloss with a mirror
11:42.09Ellipsisbut I don't even wear that one because it's sticky
11:42.11Ellipsis>_>
11:42.14cryogenEllipsis: what woul dbe even more nerdy would be to use your webcam :)
11:42.26cryogenor the camera in your phone
11:42.28cryogenor something like that
11:42.29EllipsisI would do that, but it's on the floor and I'm too lazy to go get it and plug it in
11:42.35EllipsisI have used my cam in the past though
11:42.40Ellipsisand I don't have a phone so :P
11:42.47cryogenhehe
11:43.03cryogenyup, you can definiately put a tick in the geek girl box
11:43.34cryogentechnology is great!
11:43.44Ellipsis\o/
11:44.38*** join/#wowace David___ (n=chatzill@CPE000f66a58cff-CM00186851dc10.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
11:45.04*** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-088-076-052-142.pools.arcor-ip.net)
11:45.29cryogenhmm
11:45.31cryogenit's friday
11:45.44Ellipsisit is, too
11:45.58cryogenthis is a good thing
11:46.02Ellipsisit is?
11:46.05cryogenit is
11:46.18Ellipsisoh, hmm
11:46.19cryogenwhat;s even better is that it's friday lunchtime
11:46.23buuItis not!
11:46.25David___End of the week, always a good thing
11:46.26buuIt's early morning.
11:46.29cryogenwhich means that after lunch it will be friday afternoon
11:46.38Ellipsisthat means tomorrow my bf will be home all day ^-^
11:46.41cryogenand its a well known fact that noone does any work on a friday afternoon
11:47.14Ellipsiswell you might as well just start the not working now then
11:47.26cryogento be fair
11:47.29cryogeni started it at 9am this morning
11:48.01cryogenfriday is a good day for slacking
11:48.19Ellipsisafk, string cheese
11:49.56Wobinhuh
11:49.59Wobinrealm restarts
11:50.29cryogennoooooo
11:50.33cryogenthat means hotfixes
11:50.43cryogenwhich probably means res bug go byebye :(
11:50.56JoshBorkeres bug?
11:51.10cryogenya, spirit based regen ticks while you are dead and not released
11:51.20JoshBorkeheh
11:51.32*** join/#wowace trillex (i=none@3103ds1-vg.0.fullrate.dk)
11:51.36cryogenso if you get ressed you will have mana depending on how long you are dead
11:51.44Ellipsiscryogen they never fixed it in the last restart :P
11:51.45cryogenif you are dead long enough you have full hp and mana :)
11:51.53cryogenEllipsis: one can only hope
11:51.58cryogenare the paladin blessing bugs still in?
11:52.23Grumyeah they are 30mins now
11:52.26Grumshould be 5
11:52.51cryogenthats working at intended
11:52.53cryogeni meant the pet bugs
11:53.42Ellipsispet bugs?
11:53.59cryogenyeah you bless the master and the pet gets it
11:54.04cryogenbut the pet can also get buffed on its own
11:54.04trillexHello. Quick question. Tooltips from the bar seems to "stick" to my mouse and sticks there till I hover over an npc or something. Any suggestions?
11:54.07cryogenso you get 2x blessing on pet
11:54.17cryogenalso if you buff hunter pets, warriors get buffed
11:54.18*** join/#wowace frop (n=weechat@unaffiliated/frop)
11:54.44Ellipsishm, is the same true of lock pets and mage/pallies?
11:54.46Grumif you buff a warrior - will it also buff the pet?
11:55.00cryogenno
11:55.01cryogenand not sure
11:55.12Ellipsistrillex: what bar, and what tooltip mod(s) are you using?
11:55.48Ellipsislol @ trade chat
11:56.04trillexUsing bartender3. Other than that, it is enhtooltip, gymnast and other weird things that add to the normal tooltip, but doesn't actually change it's functionality.
11:56.13Ellipsisafter the restart message: "heard there was a bug with undead cannibalize, they can eat turtles so it must be nerfed"
11:56.27cryogenheh
11:56.29WobinGrum: I think so yes
11:56.38Ellipsistrillex: hmm, nothing that repositions or skins the tooltip?
11:57.23Wobinomg
11:57.29Wobina toon named Pallymcbeal =P
11:57.33Ellipsishaha
11:57.34nevcairiellol
11:57.36Grumahaha
11:57.38cryogensmart
11:57.39Grumthat one is good :D
11:57.57trillexI use Gymnast to anchor the "normal" tooltip to my mouse (i.e. players, npcs and mobs) but nothing that actually changes the normal tooltip of bar tooltips. I believe they are seperated, aren't they?
11:58.28Ellipsisnope, they use the same tooltip
11:58.40EllipsisI'd try updating Gymnast, especially if this is an issue only since patch
11:58.41Wobinshe's naturally a belf pally
11:58.50Ellipsisthat's awesome Wobin
11:58.56Grumi actually have a strange bug where the last item from my Baggins inventory is shown after i loot something O.o
11:59.02Grumit just shows the tooltip .. really weird
11:59.40EllipsisGrum, there have been some recent fixes to Baggins that should help, at least reduce the frequency of those problems
11:59.45CIA-2203borlox * r50139 10CombatDnd/CombatDnd.toc:
11:59.45CIA-22CombatDnd:
11:59.45CIA-22- TOC -> 20200
12:00.02EllipsisI no longer have problems when opening bags while a tooltip is on my screen
12:00.03Grumi update daily so i'll get it tonight
12:00.04Nargiddleystill happening sometimes ?
12:00.21Grumfor some reason it also causes lag
12:00.24cryogennevcairiel: givf centering
12:00.24EllipsisNargiddley: btw I got an error earlier, posted on the thread ^-^
12:00.46EllipsisGrum, the lag should theoretically be fixed too (although I never had it so I can't say whether it has improved with the new version)
12:00.55Nargiddleyyeah saw that, fixed on my end i'll commit sometime
12:00.58*** join/#wowace ennuilg (n=ennui@89.129.154.79)
12:00.59Ellipsisgreat :D
12:01.12Grumjust causes a hickup, like the showing was forced multiple hunderd times
12:01.17Ellipsiswhat caused it exactly? it always drives me nuts when I can't reproduce bugs
12:01.33Nargiddleyi'm not sure how you triggered it
12:01.43Nargiddleybut it was code to handle the bank bag tooltips
12:01.47Ellipsisinteresting
12:01.51Ellipsisclearly I hax
12:02.26Nargiddleyi think you got an item that wasnt cached maybe, so no tooltip, so it checked if the button was a bank bag
12:02.32Ellipsisit was definitely cached
12:02.36Grumsame here
12:02.41EllipsisI mean..it was in my inventory and I've been wearing it for a week
12:02.41Ellipsislol
12:02.44Nargiddleyi'd missed changing var names from bliz code
12:02.58CIA-2203rabbit * r50140 10ClosetGnome_Gatherer/: ClosetGnome_Gatherer: Removed, since you can no longer fail to pick herbs or mine at maximum skill.
12:02.58CIA-2203borlox * r50141 10Knowledge-1.0/Knowledge-1.0.toc:
12:02.58CIA-22Knowledge-1.0:
12:02.59CIA-22- TOC -> 20200
12:03.00Grumit always shows my fishing rod (or if i equip that) my mining pick :D
12:03.13Nargiddleyshould only have got to that if the tooltip failed to set to the item
12:03.15EllipsisGrum: the last thing in your bag? :P
12:03.25EllipsisNargiddley: so I *really* hax, then
12:03.32Grumyeah always O.o
12:03.34Grumreally .. strange
12:04.05Ellipsisthere is no way the item wasn't cached, I was wearing it and then put on a different set, then tried to bank it and that's when the error popped up
12:04.07nevcairielvhaarr: but what if i am leveling said gathering skill? :(
12:04.31Ellipsisoh that reminds me, did you ever fix that ItemOps bug with un-cached items? :P
12:04.49NargiddleyItemOps isnt my code, havent really looked at it
12:05.07EllipsisI posted a fairly detailed explanation and drycoded fix
12:05.43EllipsisI can test it out if you like, but theoretically it shouldn't break anything
12:05.53vhaarrnevcairiel: then you're up shit creek
12:06.02vhaarrnevcairiel: dammit why didn't you ask that question before I deleted it
12:06.04Ellipsisit just won't check for re-stacking on un-cached items >_>
12:06.10vhaarrnevcairiel: too late now, can't be arsed to undo
12:06.14nevcairielhehe
12:07.14Grumundo it!
12:07.47CIA-2203borlox 07Borlox * r50142 10NCHide/NCHide/ (6 files):
12:07.47CIA-22NCHide:
12:07.47CIA-22- Added deDE locale
12:07.47CIA-22- Added embeds.xml
12:07.47CIA-22- Fixed Bug with the worldmap
12:07.47CIA-22- Added AceHook-2.1 to the externals
12:07.49CIA-22- TOC -> 20200
12:09.21CIA-2203andalia * r50143 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua:
12:09.21CIA-22BattleChat:
12:09.21CIA-22- everything should work again for now
12:09.21CIA-22- realigned the new options
12:09.21CIA-22some major changes might be needed as sideswapping is still not finished :(
12:09.51trillexEllipsis: Got the latest Gymnast it seems. Just weird that it only "sticks" when hovering over buttons
12:09.59trillexI'll try and contact the owner
12:10.10CIA-2203borlox * r50144 10Privacy2/ (. Debug.lua Privacy2.toc):
12:10.10CIA-22Privacy2:
12:10.10CIA-22- deleted Debug messages
12:10.10CIA-22- TOC -> 20200
12:10.53Ellipsistrillex, you could try other addons that relocate tooltips
12:10.54*** join/#wowace Vegeta (n=Vegeta-G@xdslff238.osnanet.de)
12:11.11ViresCowtip? =o
12:11.11trillexI can't find any other that actually relocates it to the mouse like Gymnast
12:11.18trillexWhich I find weird.
12:11.46trillexHm, I did look at Cowtip but I never tried it. Don't know why.
12:11.50ViresWhat? You want to anchor it to the cursor... most tooltip addons do that, don't they?
12:13.09trillexTinytip did, but it looked very wrong. Actually changed the color of the entire tooltip to a gradient kind of color which I couldn't find a way to remove
12:14.08Ellipsisyou can use LitheTooltipDoctor if all you want is positioning
12:14.31EllipsisTinyTip and CowTip do a lot more than re-anchor, so I wouldn't recommend those if you don't want those extra features
12:17.01trillexThat aced?
12:17.22*** join/#wowace sb (n=sb@dslb-084-056-178-139.pools.arcor-ip.net)
12:17.37Ellipsisyeah
12:17.43Ellipsisit's on the files page
12:19.40trillexFound it, thanks
12:19.59*** join/#wowace Sirow (n=Miranda_@p57A4D41A.dip.t-dialin.net)
12:20.08Ellipsisok, before I go rip my hair out trying to debug this...anyone else had issues with huge amounts of memory usage by LibRock with PitBull since patch?
12:20.44the-golemdammit
12:21.24the-golemEllipsis: nope
12:21.33Punkie`Ellipsis: Are you saying that you didn't have huge amounts of memory usage by Ace2 and Pitbull before it was converted to use RockLib? :p
12:21.48the-golemI see less memory usage with LibRock than when it was Ace2
12:22.02the-golemer
12:22.05the-golemwait
12:22.16EllipsisPunkie`: no, I'm saying before the patch LibRock used less than half the memory it's using now
12:22.27the-golemah
12:22.29Ellipsisit has nothing to do with the conversion from Ace2 to Rock
12:22.32the-golemwell i wouldnt know
12:22.39Ellipsisthis is very odd :/
12:22.41Punkie`It always used a giant amount of memory
12:22.45the-golemi did a mass update after the patch
12:22.53Punkie`and 1mib/hour in raids
12:22.53the-golemstuff i was using was Ace2
12:23.12the-golemEllipsis: yeah i misunderstood the question ^^
12:23.12EllipsisPunkie`: it should not be initializing at 2MiB
12:23.27Ellipsissomething is screwy with my setup and I can't figure out what
12:23.32Punkie`hmm
12:23.38EllipsisI might have to nuke SVs =[
12:23.42Punkie`well
12:23.51the-golemEllipsis: your LibRock is 2MB?
12:24.00the-golemmine is like 500k
12:24.04the-golemmaybe
12:24.12*** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@83.101.11.163)
12:24.16Ellipsisyes, that's why I'm trying to figure out what's going on :P
12:24.29Ellipsisnobody else has had anything like this
12:24.39the-golemtrash it and start over :P
12:24.41Ellipsisit's a very isolated issue and I don't understand why me :(
12:24.54Ellipsisthe-golem: I already deleted and re-downloaded PitBull, next stop SV wipe :P
12:25.07irandamayI have not noticed high memory usage from LibRock
12:25.11the-golem*sigh*
12:25.43Grumwhere is ckknight when you need him!
12:25.45the-golemi miss some things with the pre-LibRock stuff
12:25.49nevcairielmy librock uses 0kb
12:25.58Punkie`omg nevcairiel how?!1/21£
12:26.03irandamayI need to jump on that popup window sucks bandwagon though, as I wiped at Leotheras last night after accidentally clicking on my FuBar when my camera wigged out :)
12:26.05nevcairieli beleted it!
12:26.05EllipsisGrum, I mentioned it to him and he said it was odd but he didn't have any ideas as to the cause
12:26.15Punkie`nevcairiel: is that to say you installed it?
12:26.19Punkie`owned :>
12:26.22the-golemeverything is inside the LibRockConfig doodad, practically nothign has independant menu's anymore
12:26.32GrumEllipsis: i was not referring your problem you nubtart! :D
12:26.38nevcairieli updated fubar by accident, but reverted before ever logging in
12:26.41Ellipsiseh?
12:26.44Ellipsiswhat do you need him for? :P
12:26.50Grumhot sex, what else
12:26.52the-golemif someoen could tell me how to get independant menus i'd be happy
12:26.53Ellipsiso rly?
12:26.56Ellipsiscan I join in?
12:26.58Punkie`nevcairiel: close call
12:27.02Grumnot before pics
12:28.04the-golemespecially for my Pitbull, the minimap / fubar doodad seems to have vanished
12:28.06EllipsisGrum =[
12:28.11Ellipsishe has pics, is that not enough?
12:28.16the-golem<-- nubasaur
12:28.34Ellipsisthe-golem: other methods of configuration will be added to the Rock addons later
12:28.39Ellipsisfor now you just gotta use Rock Config
12:28.43*** join/#wowace Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.76)
12:28.43the-golemewww
12:28.57Ellipsisyou can of course revert to pre-Rock versions, or use other addons :P
12:29.09nevcairiellast time i heard, ckk didnt want to do any dropdown thingy
12:29.15the-golemi really dislike having RockConfig taking up 50% of screen realestate
12:29.19Ellipsishe does, it's just low priority right now nevcairiel
12:29.34the-golemdropdowns are win
12:29.37Punkie`the-golem: but it goes semi-transparant when you dont hover over it! :3
12:29.48Wobinone of my friends was having issues even finding performancefu in the rockconfig
12:29.57the-golemhmm
12:30.05Wobinand he said the semi-transparancy threw him off, cause he thought the game had frozen =P
12:30.07the-golemdoes it have an option to get shoved offscreen? i didnt notice one
12:30.35Ellipsisno, but you can resize it
12:31.02the-golemcuz no matter where i move it, the center of my screen is blocked lol
12:31.09Ellipsisresize it
12:31.14Punkie`60KiB unitframes are the win tho :)
12:31.18the-golemok ill look into that
12:31.23GrumEllipsis: no i dont want to be scared to death
12:31.36Ellipsisscared to death? o.O
12:31.41EllipsisI'm not *that* ugly
12:31.42*** join/#wowace kenlyric (i=kenlyric@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu)
12:31.53the-golemanyway, why not dropdowns? many less mouseclicks
12:31.55Punkie`pics or it didn't happen
12:32.02Ellipsisthe-golem, he just hasn't gotten around to that
12:32.16Ellipsisthere are other more pressing issues than clumsy config menus :P
12:32.19the-golemokies ^^
12:32.48nevcairielquite fascinating how you keep defending him, and tbh, i could search my logs for the comment he made about not doing dropdowns
12:32.55Ellipsisgo for it
12:33.13Ellipsisand I tend to defend people who are unfairly attacked
12:33.20EllipsisI am not trying to take sides, just clarify matters
12:34.01nevcairielyou have to accept that he codes for his personal benefit, not for his users, and he admits that any time you ask him
12:34.07EllipsisI am aware of that
12:34.08kenlyricI hear he codes with baby intestines intertwined in his fingers.
12:34.24Ellipsis~emulate ckknight
12:34.25purlYou know why? Because you touch yourself at night
12:34.25WobinIt helps him type faster
12:34.34Ellipsisaww I was hoping it would be the nekkid one
12:34.51Ellipsis~logs
12:34.52purlwell, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
12:34.57*** part/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net)
12:35.20sag_ich_nichthttp://www.itnews.com.au/News/62159,about-half-of-it-workers-admit-sleeping-on-the-job-kissing-coworkers.aspx
12:35.33Punkie`~nevcairiel
12:35.34purlwell, nevcairiel is 'awesome'
12:35.39Punkie`:D
12:35.44SunTsuEllipsis: What do you use to find out what addon uses what amount of memory?
12:35.45Punkie`~punkie
12:35.45purlrumour has it, punkie is awesome and lieks mudkips
12:36.32kenlyricwhat, punkie has one? I guess we give those out like CANDY now.
12:36.49Punkie`read it
12:36.51Punkie`awesome.
12:37.07Ellipsisnevcairiel:
12:37.08WobinMudkipz: Hey, Y'know that Punkie`, like... lieks you!
12:37.08Ellipsis09:49.53ckknightI'll likely add in dewdrop support later because Antiarc asked nicely, and we have a mutually respectful relationship
12:37.14sag_ich_nicht[14:35] <SunTsu> Ellipsis: What do you use to find out what addon uses what amount of memory? <--hopefully not kencos "profiler"
12:37.16sag_ich_nicht(aka BULLSHIT TOOL)
12:37.26Ellipsislol kenco lol
12:37.31EllipsisI use Usage
12:37.42Punkie`wobin!
12:37.53sag_ich_nicht\o FuBar_PerformanceFu
12:38.05the-golemSunTsu: bongos2 has a performance thingy
12:38.10the-golemand what sag said
12:38.14EllipsisPerformanceFu causes stuttering when "show addon usage" is enabled
12:38.17kenlyricwhat?
12:38.22Ellipsisso I rarely use it for that other than temporarily
12:38.23kenlyricwhy would bongos have a performance thing?
12:38.26nevcairielI should write a new wiki article how unimporant static memory usage is
12:38.33WobinI use kenco's
12:38.36Grum<Ellipsis> I'm not *that* ugly <-- let me be the judge of that ^^
12:38.37WobinIt makes my system run faster
12:38.45Ellipsiskenlyric, because it replaces the latency bar? o.o
12:38.49sag_ich_nichtWobin: sarcasm is a tool, not a weapon
12:38.52sag_ich_nichtplease don't abuse it
12:39.08the-golemkenlyric: hell if i know, but it does (and what Ellipsis said)
12:39.09Ellipsisnevcairiel, as long as you include the caveat "for most users"
12:39.10Wobinsag_ich_nicht: Meh, I've been known to use sarcasm as a finely honed knife.
12:39.22SunTsuthe-golem: Well, installing bongos just for performance measurement does not sound like something I would want to do
12:39.32Wobinsag_ich_nicht: whether to carve something, or shiv them in the back, it's still useful =)
12:39.35EllipsisI use sarcasm as a... no, actually, I'm not going to say that
12:39.36kenlyricI hear kenco is so good that angels test his code.
12:39.37sag_ich_nichtWobin: a scalpel is also a tool, not a weapon.
12:39.37the-golemSunTsu: well no, im jsut saying its there
12:39.44kenlyricOf course, in heaven, computers have infinite ram.
12:39.47sag_ich_nichtEllipsis say it
12:39.49WobinA tool can also be used as a weapon!
12:39.56sag_ich_nichtdoesn't mean it should be.
12:39.57kenlyricWobin: I saw 2001.
12:40.02Wobinin fact, most weapons are tools
12:40.05Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: it would be highly inappropriate, beyond my normal level of inappropriateness :P
12:40.08the-golem"Bongos2_Stats"
12:40.09the-golembtw
12:40.26sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: you implied something, now finish it
12:40.30Ellipsisall weapons are tools to get what you want
12:40.37Ellipsisthey just have to be applied to the right people ^-^
12:40.38WobinIndeed
12:40.42Wobinoften multiple times
12:40.46SunTsuthe-golem: I'll keep that in mind, thank you, I always wanted to take a look at bongos
12:40.48kenlyricall tools can be weapons. All weapons are tools
12:40.48Ellipsisand sometimes in bed
12:40.50Ellipsis>_>
12:40.56Wobin"on high"
12:41.17SunTsuBut I refused to, because the only thing I want to do is have a prowling bar, just like the stealth bar rogues have
12:41.22sag_ich_nichtkenlyric: show me how you use a whisk as weapon(without disassembling it)
12:41.29Wobin...
12:41.33Wobinyou can get beaten to death =)
12:41.35Ellipsisit's a weapon against eggs, sag_ich_nicht
12:41.38kenlyricgrab the wire end, and stab the handle into their eye.
12:41.42Ellipsiseggs are people too
12:41.49the-golemSunTsu: oooh .. hmmmm
12:41.50GrumEllipsis: more sexy references
12:41.55WobinWell did you see Chronicles of Riddick?
12:42.00WobinHe used a teacup!
12:42.03the-golemur Catform bar isnt good enuff?
12:42.05EllipsisGrum, what? you liked my using weapons in bed comment? o.O
12:42.12the-golem:P
12:42.20sag_ich_nichtdepends on the weapon
12:42.24Grumnot really
12:42.26sag_ich_nichtEllipsis stop making the nerds go crazy again.
12:42.36EllipsisI'm not trying to!
12:42.37Ellipsissheesh
12:42.38m4rku5lol :P
12:42.41Grumhaha
12:42.45Ellipsisyou make it out to seem like I'm some kind of horny attention whore, sag_ich_nicht
12:42.50WobinNever!
12:42.51Ellipsisand I'm definitely not an attention whore
12:42.52Ellipsis>_>
12:42.54Grumyou so did ... transparant fake-female ^^
12:43.13sag_ich_nicht[14:42] <Ellipsis> you make it out to seem like I'm some kind of horny attention whore, sag_ich_nicht <--which is correct
12:43.27Grumyou so are an attention whore .. maybe not the attention kind though
12:43.29Ellipsisdon't confuse being flirtacious with attention whoring
12:43.41kenlyricuh
12:43.46sag_ich_nichtyou have a boyfriend, Ellipsis.
12:43.49kenlyricI don't think you understand what flirtation is.
12:43.49Ellipsisso?
12:44.03CIA-2203fin * r50145 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua: Prat: Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua: removed message previously added for testing.
12:44.04sag_ich_nichtthus, you are just an attn whore. or not happy with your relationship. in which case i suggest you GTFO and talk to your BF
12:44.05sag_ich_nicht:P
12:44.07kenlyricflirtation has no other goal but to make someone pay attention to you.
12:44.18Ellipsiskenlyric, maybe for you, not for me
12:44.26sag_ich_nicht~whaleblock sag_ich_nicht
12:44.27purlACTION shields sag_ich_nicht with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag
12:44.37Ellipsissag_ich_nicht, it has nothing to do with my relationship
12:44.40the-golembut attention whoring isnt always flirting
12:44.41EllipsisI enjoy flirting. it's fun.
12:44.41CIA-2203siz * r50146 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/AddonSpamFu.lua:
12:44.41CIA-22FuBar_AddonSpamFu:
12:44.41CIA-22- Added some prefixes, nothing major.
12:44.41*** join/#wowace jykiv (i=Tervuv@modemcable144.186-201-24.mc.videotron.ca)
12:44.45jykiv6,4 http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/
12:44.49kenlyrictbh, even talking or chatting has no other function than to make people look at you.
12:44.51*** part/#wowace jykiv (i=Tervuv@modemcable144.186-201-24.mc.videotron.ca)
12:44.53sag_ich_nicht...
12:44.55WobinO.O
12:44.57Ellipsis...wow
12:45.02Grumnow *THAT* was an attention whore
12:45.04WobinThat's the first spam I've ever seen =P
12:45.05Ellipsisso how many people are not clicking that link right now?
12:45.06kenlyricall humans are attention whores, in the end.
12:45.08sag_ich_nicht[Ammo] Cairenn|afk ckknight hyperChipmunk Tem vhaarr you there? :X
12:45.10pb_ee1d'oh
12:45.15sag_ich_nichtthat bot wants a ban :X
12:45.19Grumchildpr0n! yay
12:45.32Grumoh . i clicked
12:45.36kenlyricthat wasn't child porn!
12:45.41kenlyricyou lied to me!
12:45.44the-golem...
12:45.56Ellipsisanyway as I was saying sag_ich_nicht: my bf is aware that I flirt online and doesn't mind it because he knows I enjoy it and it's not serious :P
12:46.01the-golemSWEEEET! beasty pr0n
12:46.02*** join/#wowace faCe| (n=f@pD955D0B7.dip.t-dialin.net)
12:46.05the-golem*roll eyes*
12:46.22sag_ich_nichtheh
12:46.26kenlyriccups
12:46.27vhaarrsag_ich_nicht: I am, what
12:46.32Ellipsisvhaarr spam ^^
12:46.40sag_ich_nichtvhaarr: scroll up to hh:44
12:46.48*** join/#wowace Harruee (n=harald0@p5089CF15.dip.t-dialin.net)
12:47.00SunTsuEllipsis: It's not serious? Dang, so I can cancel our wedding and put the rings into ebay?
12:47.14vhaarrjykiv?
12:47.15Ellipsisyup, sorry SunTsu =[
12:47.24Wobinaye
12:47.37kenlyricmeh, you only need to get married once. tthat's what lovers are for.
12:47.45*** join/#wowace [DiE]Celeb (n=zlkkiz@ti300720a080-7101.bb.online.no)
12:47.51SunTsuEllipsis: You just broke my - broke my - wallet!
12:47.53*** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@modemcable144.186-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] by vhaarr
12:48.18Ellipsisaww <3
12:48.32SunTsu.o0( Damn, I am an attention whore ;) )
12:48.36kenlyrichttp://ocm.iupui.edu/gfx/portfolio/whynotboth_logo.jpg
12:49.19Ellipsisrandom o.O
12:49.50Ellipsiseer
12:50.01Ellipsisdoes purl's logging not log actions?
12:50.15nevcairielpossible
12:50.20Ellipsislame
12:50.53GrumEllipsis: dont do huggles .. you remind me of one of those attentionthingies
12:51.20*** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@81-229-136-48-o1124.telia.com)
12:51.25Ellipsiso.O
12:51.29*** join/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net)
12:51.30Ellipsiswhat do you prefer?
12:51.35Ellipsisshould I stab people I feel sorry for?
12:51.40Grumyes
12:51.58Grumdo: *vanish* ={AMBUSH}=
12:52.04Grumfollowed by a *BACKSTAB*
12:52.07kenlyricI hope somebody stabs him in his eye.
12:52.17Ellipsiswith a whisk?
12:52.23*** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-69-180-106-134.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
12:52.28*** part/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-69-180-106-134.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
12:52.40Grumwhip?
12:53.03Ellipsiswtf, why is PitBull_Aura calling AceLibrary?
12:53.20Grumbecause it's sexy
12:53.32Grumwhy do you read all sourcecode? :D silly you
12:53.41EllipsisI'm not reading the code right now actually
12:53.51EllipsisI just logged in with only Rock and PitBull enabled to test the memory issue
12:53.56Ellipsisand it's like "zomg AceLibrary pls"
12:54.04kenlyricoh thank god, my server can get back to killing illidan. Oh, wait...
12:54.39Ellipsislulz
12:54.58Grumkenlyric? euuh? sup with your server? :D
12:55.04Ellipsisit's a failserver
12:55.05kenlyricGrum: fail.
12:55.10Stanzilla2Ellipsis: check code, find correct part and ~lart ckk
12:55.20Grumawwww what symptoms? :D
12:55.21kenlyricnobody even kills illidian, 15 minute enrage timer or not :)
12:55.34Grumhe has a 15m enrage timer? O.o
12:55.35kenlyric(3) Auction's duration have been changed to 12, 24 or 48 hours. Also deposit prices for all duration will be the same.
12:55.41kenlyricwhy even have different durations then?
12:55.52Grumdiff deposits
12:56.00[dRaCo]"Also deposit prices for all duration will be the same."
12:56.01[dRaCo]:>
12:56.06the-golemlol
12:56.14Grum'as they are now' .. tssk
12:56.23nevcairiel(14:55:08) (kenlyric) nobody even kills illidian, 15 minute enrage timer or not :) <- was changed to 25minutes again
12:56.37Grumguild on our server got their second kill in 14m yesterday
12:56.40kenlyricnevcairiel: I know. that was my celebration. Then I remembered nobody does either way :)
12:56.41Grumkinda .. amazing then
12:56.48nevcairielah heh
12:56.55m4rku5kenlyric, i dont get that duration deposit bla either ;)
12:57.15Ellipsismy realm downed illidan, I think kenlyric is made of lose and fail
12:57.21kenlyricGrum: well, if they mean "deposit prices will stay the same as they are now", that's what they said. That makes it look like deposite prices will be exactly the same no matter the duration.
12:57.32Grumi know kenlyric :D
12:57.38kenlyricEllipsis: right, because I'm in control of my realm's progress.
12:57.42m4rku5i guess u get 12hrs for what u paid for 8 before ?
12:57.46m4rku5or what ?
12:57.51Ellipsisyou are kenlyric
12:57.53kenlyricespecially with not raiding for three months.
12:57.54Grumhe is?
12:57.59Grum3 months? slacker
12:58.03Ellipsisyou are directly responsible for people not winning at life
12:58.05CIA-2203nevcairiel 07Alpha * r50147 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua:
12:58.05CIA-22Ace3 - AceDB-3.0
12:58.05CIA-22- use CallbackHandler-1.0 for handling the callbacks
12:58.30Ellipsiswell what else would you use CallbackHandler for?
12:58.33Ellipsis>_>
12:58.42nevcairielit can make pie
12:58.42SunTsuI was assembling a group on tuesday and suddenly one of the members went "I have to go, my guild just downed Illidan and we are celebrating" and I went "WTF?"
12:58.49Grumwhat kind nevcairiel?
12:59.03Ellipsisrly
12:59.07Ellipsisis it any good?
12:59.23kenlyric(2) Spells now cast for free for 5 seconds after resurrecting at a Spirit Healer in Battlegrounds
12:59.25Wobinoh man, pie
12:59.25GrumSunTsu: hehe
12:59.28nevcairielGrum: doesnt say, and i didnt try it yet .. i dont know if it would be good
12:59.29kenlyricthat's a really sexy change.
12:59.36Wobinkenlyric: wow
12:59.45Wobinthat's kinda cool =)
12:59.45Grumfree buffs!
12:59.55Grumnevcairiel: YOU HAVE NO TESTS?
12:59.58kenlyricjust gotta buff really fast for a priest.
12:59.59Grumzomg! ~shame
13:00.03nevcairielnot of the pie
13:00.06nevcairiel:shrug:
13:00.12Grum~lart
13:00.19kenlyricI need whoever does simpleselfrebuff to add a priority system.
13:00.29*** join/#wowace rey (n=WP-Gast@pd95b58fb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
13:00.45kenlyricwait, there is no priority. All 4 rock
13:00.59*** join/#wowace Mioku (i=nuoHep@89.222.156.27)
13:01.39kenlyricI still don't get how a mount can cost 2000g
13:01.57Grumthey did a /random 1-5 and multiplied by 1000
13:03.29*** join/#wowace bheng (n=beholder@adsl-76-200-156-35.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
13:03.44*** part/#wowace bheng (n=beholder@adsl-76-200-156-35.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
13:06.20*** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=bla@pD957FC8C.dip.t-dialin.net)
13:07.46*** join/#wowace wT (n=wT@nat04.dsl.ssp.fi)
13:08.17cryogenwell thats one way to spam i guess
13:09.45Grumwtbcheaperwowgoldtskcbatogrindrhah:(
13:10.04ramozitemgarden.cum
13:10.26Matrix110hmmm
13:10.38Grumexpensive!
13:10.38SunTsuOn our realm spammers are hilarious. Most of them can't even write their homepages correctly
13:10.41Matrix110can i get only the guildmembers rank with GetGuildRosterInfo instead of all rubbish i dont want?
13:10.42Grumi tihnk .. lets see :D
13:11.03xyuours just hang out at org bank and use /say
13:11.53cryogeni was refering to the dude you spammed rather colourfully in here earlier
13:12.01Grumlol ramoz, thats expensive .. €197.41 for 3000g that is .. omg nearly worth to grind myself :D
13:12.08cryogenbut ye wow spam has gotten to whole new annoying levels
13:12.43ramozGrum: idk, just all my guildies say the own, i do dailies
13:12.53Grumwhat server you on? :D
13:13.09ramozwhy? :O
13:13.17Grumcurious what prices are for your server
13:13.26kenlyrichow in the world does cowtip get the guild rank of someone on the other faction?
13:13.31vithoswhat the.
13:13.39vithos08:10 < vithosmyself :D
13:13.43Wobinit's part of the api, no?
13:13.47Ellipsisyup
13:13.48kenlyricI find it disturbing that the game gives that information.
13:14.02kenlyricnot the ranks, but the names of the ranks.
13:14.06Ellipsisgot something to hide there kenlyric?
13:14.07Ellipsis:P
13:14.18kenlyricno, but i've seen some pretty filthy guild ranks :)
13:14.29Ellipsisthere are some really stupid ones out there
13:14.33kenlyricand in my bank alt guild We had some pretty nasty ones :)
13:15.50Ellipsisgrrr
13:15.59EllipsisI can't figure out wtf is causing this memory usage
13:16.12Ellipsiswith nothing enabled except Ace2, Rock, and PitBull with all my normal modules...
13:16.23EllipsisRock doubles its memory usage when I open my bank
13:16.25Ellipsis?!
13:16.39hastePitBull is pretty... 'light', true story
13:16.47ramozlol haste!
13:16.58ramozrelease oTweaks again!
13:17.17hasteI have a... almost finished version actually
13:17.25hastejust that I've recently been without net for a couple of weeks
13:17.30hasteso haven't been able to do much
13:17.34ramozaha!
13:17.43ramozwell, get rid of the 'almost´
13:17.51hasteand school takes up most my time atm
13:18.13kenlyriccat out
13:18.14hastesince I 'need' to hold ~90% score on tests :p
13:18.16kenlyricbah!
13:18.22ramozNTNU?
13:18.27hasteUiO
13:18.39ramozinformatikk?
13:18.49hastelanguage :p
13:18.56ramozeeew :P
13:18.59hastecurrently japanese as my major
13:19.10ramozwut, cool.
13:20.46Ellipsis>_>
13:20.57Nickenyfikenhaha haste you are crazy
13:21.01*** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=o@c-6f4ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
13:21.08Ellipsiscan someone with PitBull and disembedded libs test something for me?
13:21.48Ellipsispretty please?
13:22.02EllipsisI promise it won't hurt?
13:22.05dodgaYeah
13:22.07dodgaThey always do
13:22.14wTWell I can try
13:22.15dodgaAnd then *BAM* Aaaah where's my head
13:22.22Ellipsishmph dodga :P
13:22.24wTNeed to go enable it first
13:22.46EllipsisI just want to know what people's memory numbers are like when they first login and then when they put it into solo config mode
13:23.07GrumEllipsis: memory usage will go up MAD
13:23.08Ellipsisto know how far off mine are >_>
13:23.16Grumhence the config mode :)
13:23.21EllipsisGrum, I know, but it still shouldn't be quite like this
13:23.29Grumhow much more memory does it take? :D
13:23.34Ellipsiswhich is why I want to know how bad my situation is
13:23.43Ellipsis2MiB initial, 4+ in config
13:23.52dodgaEllipsis: It cannot get worse. Abandon all hope. Children and badgers first!
13:23.53Grumnot too bad tbh
13:24.14Ellipsisit is bad for something that peaked at 1MiB during party use before patch...
13:24.36*** join/#wowace siIentium (i=silentiu@dslb-088-066-063-236.pools.arcor-ip.net)
13:24.43cryogenthats nothing
13:25.07Ellipsisall I asked was for someone to check a couple numbers, sheesh
13:25.15ramozOK GRUM
13:25.17ramozim tired of notice
13:25.19Ellipsiseven if it's not a major issue, I still want to understand what's going on and why
13:25.20Grumha! finally
13:25.30Grumin-channel-cybar it is!
13:25.35wTEhm
13:25.36Ellipsishot
13:25.38Grummy right hand got tired
13:25.45wT1.06mb, to 1.27mb on solo config
13:25.58EllipsiswT: is that PitBull or Rock?
13:26.10wTThat's Pitbulls memory
13:26.16Grumramoz: 'drawing on the minimap' ? :(
13:26.17wTAccording to PerformanceFu
13:26.20Ellipsiscan you please /rl and check Rock's
13:26.56wTMmm... yeah, if I can figure out how to get it's memory with PerformanceFu only showing five highest :-)
13:27.03Ellipsisyou can increase the number shown :P
13:27.08wTOh, d'oh
13:27.09neeneeTry warmup
13:27.15ramozGrum: well, you had it in your lazy.jpg
13:27.16ramoz:P
13:27.20Ellipsiswarmup o.O
13:27.25Grumoh that is automaticly
13:27.29Grumbut only for square minimaps atm
13:27.34ramozright
13:27.41ramozwell make a release!
13:27.42ramoz:O
13:27.43Ellipsiswhatever you guys are talking about it sounds sexy
13:27.53Grumbut there is no way to make the routes atm
13:27.56Grumso i cant release it :D
13:28.14ramozwell, how did you make it?
13:28.22kenlyricI really wish things would stop giving my leather scraps. Nobody buys them.
13:28.35Ellipsiskenlyric, make them into real leather? :P
13:28.37_dreamssmake them into rral leather?
13:28.45_dreamsswhat ellis said
13:28.49Grumramoz: well i have some stupid macro doing a /script to add nodes to a route :D
13:28.55ramozaha
13:29.01ramozwell put that in a .txt
13:29.03ramozand give it to me
13:29.03ramoz!
13:29.08kenlyricyeah, like I'm a useless leatherwork. Guess I need to find someone.
13:29.09*** join/#wowace bluspacecow (n=bluspace@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz)
13:29.23kenlyricif it's six scraps per leather though, it's not any better than vendoring them.
13:29.34[dRaCo]5
13:29.36bluspacecowmorning guys
13:29.50wTLibrock memory increased by about 700kb
13:29.55Grumramoz: /script local x,y = GetPlayerMapLocation(); Cartographer:GetModule("Routes"):AddPoint(x,y, GetRealZoneText()) .... orso ;D
13:29.57wTI think...
13:30.01EllipsiswT from what to what?
13:30.17bluspacecowhey does Omen have a bug tracker somewhere ?
13:30.25Ellipsisbluspacecow, just post in the Omen thread
13:30.26wTIt was less than 400 and now it's 913kb, it wasn't on the top20 before solo config
13:30.29Grumit has no bugs bluspacecow !
13:30.39bluspacecowlol grum
13:30.40Ellipsiskk wT, thank you for helping :)
13:30.41[dRaCo]there's Antiarc, just bug him :>
13:30.45wTNo problem
13:30.59GrumEllipsis: did you already figure it out?
13:31.14EllipsisI've figured out that.....yeah, no
13:31.18Grumor are you even too stupid to do that *with* all the help you got? =D
13:31.22Grum^^
13:31.27Ellipsisall I've figured out is that my computer is an anomaly
13:31.45GrumPEBCAK :)
13:31.47EllipsisI may try with all modules enabled and see if that fixes it, but that seems unlikely to *reduce* memory usage
13:31.48Grumdefinately
13:32.05*** join/#wowace Vegeta (n=Vegeta-G@xdslff238.osnanet.de)
13:32.37Ellipsisthe thing that drives me crazy is that if I were having memory usage like other people, my total addon memory would be at my goal :(
13:32.40neeneehm
13:32.51neeneeHow is 400 to 913 an increase of 700?
13:33.02Grummagic with numbers
13:33.04Ellipsisdon't ask questions, neenee
13:33.06neeneeIndeed.
13:33.11kenlyricneenee: that's in kittens per square ironing board.
13:33.15wTWell 20th addon used around 400, and it wasn't in top20, so less than 400 :-p
13:33.21sylvanaarsounds like U.S. budget figures
13:33.37Grumhehhe
13:33.41Ellipsiskenlyric: did you forget to divide by the speed of an unladen swallow?
13:33.51Grumyou said swallow!
13:33.55kenlyricdon't mix your comedy metaphors.
13:33.57Ellipsis=[
13:33.58bluspacecoweast coast swallow or west coast swallow ?
13:34.08Ellipsis~fail
13:34.08purlACTION gives ellipsis the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus!
13:35.03dodgahmpf
13:35.22m4rku5lol
13:35.32bluspacecow>_< *blush* ... I posted on the wow forums that omen has a bug tracker ...why dont you post reports of assertion fails there and the author will come out of his cave and fix the problem right away
13:35.51dodga[Ammo]: I resetted the position of WitchHunt and repositioned it yesterday, but I just logged in and it is again somewhere offscreen ;o
13:35.54Grumdid you check jira bluspacecow ?
13:36.03Ellipsisjira doesn't have a project for Omen
13:36.36[Ammo]dodga: cool
13:36.49[Ammo]dodga: guess the positioning code I use there is shit
13:36.49Ellipsisand bluspacecow, they should report it on the WowAce thread for Omen :P
13:36.57[Ammo]dodga: blizzard changed some positioning junk
13:37.14CIA-2203nevcairiel 07Alpha * r50148 10Ace3/tests/ (AceDB-3.0-callbacks.lua AceDB-3.0.lua):
13:37.14CIA-22Ace3(tests):
13:37.14CIA-22- added tests for all callback types
13:37.38Grumnevcairiel: did you test the pie?
13:38.12dodga[Ammo]: Yeah, they changed something with positioning:D
13:38.23CIA-2203nevcairiel 07Alpha * r50149 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua:
13:38.23CIA-22Ace3 - AceDB-3.0
13:38.23CIA-22- fixed ResetDB to not drop callbacks
13:38.30dodgaThat's probably also the reason why Antagonist is somewhere offscreen
13:38.34[Ammo]probably
13:38.36[Ammo]well I dunno
13:38.39wTHeya, if I'm working on an addon of another author (with permission ofcourse), should I add myself to the author-line or x-credits line in the toc? What about my email? Would anyone really even care?
13:38.43[Ammo]I have no clue on these things
13:38.57[Ammo]and I use sinklib to feed witchhunt to an sct thing
13:39.05sag_ich_nichtso guys
13:39.06EllipsiswT, if you got permission from the author why don't you ask him what he'd prefer? :P
13:39.18sag_ich_nichti just read the patchnotes for 2.2.2
13:39.20sag_ich_nichtand well
13:39.29sag_ich_nichtsuddendly
13:39.30sag_ich_nichtto my suprise
13:39.35[dRaCo]yeah, graveyards. we know :þ
13:39.37sag_ich_nichti did the mash
13:39.44wTEllipsis: Hmm, true I guess
13:39.46sag_ich_nichtthe... oh damn it [dRaCo] you ruined it
13:39.51[dRaCo]yay.
13:39.54sag_ich_nichti was gonna cite the monster mash song :(
13:40.20GrumWTB pie
13:40.23Ellipsishe did the mash, he did the monster mash
13:40.30Ellipsishe did the mash, it was a graveyard smash
13:40.41sag_ich_nichtgraveyard smash
13:41.08Ellipsiscould be worse, could be rickroll
13:41.37wTWell then, is it ok if I totally butcher the whitespace of the addon? Is that frowned upon?
13:41.50wTI'm super-picky about my whitespace...
13:42.18Ellipsisagain, I'd say that's probably something you should discuss with the author....
13:42.24Ellipsisbut it depends on the situation
13:42.36Ellipsisif he's effectively abandoning it and letting you take over, then I'd say do what you want
13:42.43cryogenwT: if that was my addon, i would break you in half
13:42.49*** join/#wowace doktoreas (n=geko@h031.ad.agr.unipg.it)
13:42.55[Ammo]name the addon :)
13:43.00Ellipsisif you're just adding a few fixes, I would try to avoid ruining his formatting :P
13:43.00[Ammo]and the original author
13:43.04[Ammo]and we can give you a hint :)
13:43.10wTSorry, IncomingHeals, dunno if anyone even uses it except our guild
13:43.13[Ammo]on wether you're save or liable to get gangraped
13:43.16wTTattersail was the author
13:43.19SunTsuwT: If I was working on another one's code I would stick on the way the author did it
13:43.36Chompersanyone know what 'haerens styrker gardeskolen' means?
13:44.01vhaarrwT: if I was working on it, I'd make it all just like I wanted it and ignore how the previous author did crap, because they mostly all suck donkey balls
13:44.03wTHe said that he would not be working on it and I'm allowed to do what I see fit with it, though in the few weeks I've seen him commit a few additions again...
13:44.10vhaarrChompers: yes, me
13:44.10Ellipsisvhaarr probably could translate that
13:44.12[Ammo]vhaarr: hahaha
13:44.18vhaarrammo :P
13:44.21_dreamssif u can improve the code why not
13:44.25_dreamssheh
13:44.28wTVhaar, heh :-)
13:44.29[Ammo]so that's why we constantly swap code back and forth eh?
13:44.36Chomperswhat branch of the military is it vhaarr?
13:44.37SunTsuwT: If he gave you allowance to do what you like, just do so.
13:44.46vhaarrChompers: the kings private guard
13:44.49neeneestryker is strength
13:44.51Chompersoh right
13:44.51vhaarrChompers: located at the castle
13:45.09Ellipsissilly norwegians and their military service
13:45.11vhaarrEllipsis: how did you know I could?
13:45.13Chompersthanks vhaarr
13:45.13Ellipsiswhy even bother
13:45.17Ellipsisvhaarr: I'm stalking you
13:45.21wTIt's just find&replace to get it back the way it was, it's just two spaces to one tab... but I'm so picky about it
13:45.22neeneeSo much for that :)
13:45.30Ellipsisor I just remembered where you were from, and recognized the language
13:45.31vhaarrEllipsis: because military service teaches you a lot of stuff that you won't get a chance to learn otherwise
13:45.31Ellipsis:P
13:45.44vhaarrand it's HELLA fun to be in it
13:45.56[Ammo]anyone coding with spaces are the first against the wall when the revolution comes
13:45.57Ellipsisthat's not what my norwegian friends say :P
13:46.03NickenyfikenThere is no reason ever to use spaces instead of tabs when indenting.
13:46.07vhaarrbecause they're retards at age 18
13:46.11Ellipsisheh
13:46.12vhaarrwho don't appreciate shit
13:46.13_dreamsshehe
13:46.14Ellipsisyou have a point
13:46.22cryogen[Ammo]: *beatstick*
13:46.25*** join/#wowace [gk]Hotphoenix (n=blah@87.113.75.106.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net)
13:47.02Ellipsisalthough I have to admit I don't like the mandatory service
13:47.07Ellipsisbecause it steals my friends =[
13:47.15vhaarrtough luck
13:47.22vhaarrit's good for a man to do military service
13:47.24Ellipsis/emo
13:47.26_dreamssit would do the US some good
13:47.28cryogentabs are evil
13:47.30cryogendeath to tabs
13:47.31_dreamssill tell u that
13:47.35Ellipsiscryogen: no u!
13:47.40wTOk, one last dumb question, I've been trying to make the addon pretty and more functional, so will you guys kill me if I make a big commit with lots of changes? :-)
13:47.51cryogenyes
13:47.51cryogenirl
13:47.53cryogentwice
13:47.56vhaarrwT: tag the previous authors version first
13:48.05vhaarrwT: I assume you've tried contacting him
13:48.12Grumhe has permission
13:48.17Ellipsisif they want to make it mandatory, they should make it mandatory for both men and women ~imo~
13:48.20wTvhaarr, I did yeah
13:48.36[Ammo]vhaarr: he has permission to fuck up the addon even ;)
13:48.45vhaarrcool then fuck the tag
13:48.47GrumEllipsis: blondes going to the army?
13:48.52Grumanyone going in the army?
13:48.53Grumbwhahahaa
13:48.56vhaarrEllipsis: that's just bullcrap
13:49.03Ellipsisexcuse me?
13:49.04Ellipsis>_>
13:49.07vhaarrEllipsis: men and women are different, you have no place in the army
13:49.14vhaarrmandatory, that is
13:49.18vhaarrI'm all for volunteering
13:49.19SunTsuvhaarr: Well, maybe was a retard with 18, but now I am 32, and I still see no fun and even less sense in mandatory millitary service
13:49.20Ellipsisand why's that
13:49.46sag_ich_nichtvhaarr no, you are wrong
13:49.51vhaarrSunTsu: then you learnt nothing from your service, and it was just a loss, which is your loss
13:49.59Ellipsisthere are just as many men who aren't fit for the army as there are women
13:49.59vhaarrand that's your problem
13:50.01sag_ich_nichteither same treatment for all or i demand that we get our full blown sexism back.
13:50.11*** join/#wowace Dataisgod (n=Woden@86-40-154-216.b-ras1.srl.dublin.eircom.net)
13:50.18Chomperswhat exactly do you learn then?
13:50.31vhaarrEllipsis: that might be true, but then consider that only 32% of the men who should complete military service in norway actually get enlisted
13:50.53SunTsuvhaarr: If I was at the military, it was a loss of time. I was working for a year in a hospital, which made a lot of more sense to me, and which is a great win ;)
13:50.53Ellipsisright, and that's fine for women as well
13:51.14EllipsisI'm not saying every woman should be in the army any more than any man should be
13:51.15*** join/#wowace Maku (n=michalka@staticline12642.toya.net.pl)
13:51.22GrumPower Word: Fortitude, Divine Spirit, Prayer of Fortitude and Prayer of Spirit will have their mana costs reduced. <-- whoooo
13:51.28cryogenwT: if the author has said you can do what you want, then fuck what we think :)
13:51.35Makuhttp://wklej.org/id/4196bdb600
13:51.35Grumno more 3x drinking before i finish buffing 5 grps :D
13:51.35Ellipsisbut I think the rules on who's fit for service and who's required to serve should be the same for both
13:51.42Makuany idea why it dont work?
13:51.59cryogenGrum: woot
13:52.00wTcyrogen, Heh ok, I'm just trying to be as correct as I can with this :-)
13:52.10wTcryogen even...
13:52.22cryogenwT: if more than one person was working on it, it might be different
13:52.29*** join/#wowace yasuo (n=yasuo@dslb-088-072-216-072.pools.arcor-ip.net)
13:52.34cryogenGrum: bg changes too!
13:52.46*** part/#wowace Harruee (n=harald0@p5089CF15.dip.t-dialin.net)
13:53.08wTAnd I'm bad at starting my own addon from scratch, I'm better at tinkering and poking other peoples addons 'improving' them
13:53.18*** join/#wowace Leachim (n=Necroman@p5089A8E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
13:53.45Grumcryogen: bg?
13:53.59cryogenGrum: free spells for 5 secs after ressing @ bg
13:54.13Grumwho cares for pvp ^^
13:54.16Ellipsis^
13:54.21cryogeni dont
13:54.23cryogenbut its still nice :)
13:54.36Makuhttp://wklej.org/id/4196bdb600
13:54.51Ellipsishmmm
13:56.58vhaarrMaku: wtf
13:57.03GrumMaku: LOL :D
13:57.25wTPff I lied, one more stupid question, to tag an addon, it's just like import but I just stick it in the /tags/<addon name>/<Tag name>/<addon name> place... right?
13:57.36*** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub)
13:57.36*** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ
13:57.56Makuffs error in 4 line
13:57.59GrumwT: afaik it's a svk cp of trunk to tags/tagname
13:58.12wTThen I don't know how to do it :-S
13:58.38Grumor tags/<addon name>/<tagname>
13:59.00vhaarrMaku: care to explain that code and what you want?
13:59.02Grumit's nothing more than a regular 'make a branch but not into the 'branches' dir
13:59.06Makuany idea how to make it working
13:59.15vhaarrMaku: are you a chinese gold/item retail seller wanting addon coding help?
13:59.18Ellipsisyeah I'm not helping with that code >_>
13:59.18Makuit shoul reply to autor of whisper with that message
13:59.22GrumMaku: do you really expect us help with your spamming addons? O.o
13:59.23vhaarrin which case I want cash to help you
13:59.35Makuim not a chinease
13:59.35Grum~ban Maku
13:59.37EllipsisI can only see like 3 things wrong with it already
13:59.41Grumyou just stink Maku
13:59.47Makuits only for my proffesion
13:59.48Grumjust 3?
13:59.59wTGrum: I don't know how to make branches either, I'm a nub
13:59.59Makui founds it on some scamming sites
14:00.09*** kick/#wowace [Maku!n=folk@ti0013a380-1329.bb.online.no] by vhaarr (vhaarr)
14:00.16*** join/#wowace Maku (n=michalka@staticline12642.toya.net.pl)
14:00.23Makuits for my proffesion
14:00.26m4rku5lmfao
14:00.29Makuit sould reply with price of potion
14:00.31m4rku5Maku: get lost
14:00.34vhaarrauto rejoin makes baby jesus pregnant
14:00.41Grumi see 5 :D
14:00.48Makui found ti on some site
14:00.53GrumWE DONT CARE
14:00.54Makuand wanna to change it -.-'
14:01.01vhaarrMaku: what do you want it to do?
14:01.01Grumthen change it O.o
14:01.06vhaarrGrum: hang on, maybe he's just confused
14:01.09cryogeni think he wants something like itemsomething
14:01.11cryogenwhats it called
14:01.14cryogenthe enchanting mod
14:01.21Makuwhen somebody will whisper me'info' it shoul reply to him what im selling (potions and other stuff)
14:01.34GrumMaku: there is lots of other addons that do exactly that
14:01.38cryogenhe wants something like enchantlist
14:01.45Makuyeah but i want to be geniune
14:01.46cryogenthats what i was thinking of
14:01.46Grumso find those addons and read em
14:01.55Grumno you want to re-invent the wheel
14:01.58Makuwant to write it on my own
14:02.02Grumhave fun then
14:02.10Gruml2codelua
14:02.18vhaarrMaku: so what is the problem, specifically?
14:02.18Makujust need some help
14:02.24Makuerror in 4 line
14:02.25Grumyou need more than just 'some' :)
14:02.30vhaarrMaku: what error?
14:02.35MakuSendChatMessage("Hi, arg2!I'm selling codes from WoW TCG items. That codes are 100% valid and you can exchange them in Booty Bay in Eastern Kingdoms by talking with special NPC. If you want buy one of them just link that item to me. If you wanna see prices whisper me price itemlink", "WHISPER", nil, arg2);
14:02.38Grumif you cant find the error in line4 get a better syntax highliter
14:02.44Grumthat is not line 4 ...
14:02.49Grumthere is 3 chars more on line 4
14:02.51Maku[08/28/2007 03:57:08] compiler\bin\luac.exe: C:\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\scamus\scamus.lua:4: unexpected symbol near `)'
14:03.00vhaarrMaku: remove the ;
14:03.05vhaarrboth of them
14:03.11Grumthat is not it vhaarr
14:03.12wTscamus.lua?
14:03.24vhaarrMaku: and the last )
14:03.29Grumlol
14:03.39Grumvhaarr: stop helping him you nubtart
14:03.46vhaarrGrum: why?
14:03.59Makuyeah scamus.lua. its form some scamming site
14:04.03Makui got it for example
14:04.19Makuhttp://www.wklej.org/id/6b16665503
14:04.23Grumbecause if he cant even use his editor and find the simplest of syntax errors ... seriously
14:04.38GrumMaku: learn to ident your code
14:05.19Grumthe problem was you had: '); );' at the end of line 4 .. which should be ')' or ');' ..
14:05.19vhaarrMaku: read http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
14:05.21Grumnext to that, 'arg2' used in the string will not interpolate
14:05.28Xinhuanrofl
14:05.47Grumand next to that you will not have an 'event' nor 'arg1/2' in the function unless wow is really broken and provides em via globals
14:05.53Xinhuanso we have a policy against gold farmers? :)
14:05.57vhaarrGrum: it does
14:06.00GrumIIIIIIIIIEW
14:06.05GrumIIIIIIIIIEW
14:06.31MakuGrum: So i should use "..arg2.."?
14:06.47Ellipsisif you want it to insert the name, yeah
14:06.47Grumwould possibly work better if arg2 is never nill
14:06.51Grum*nil
14:07.18Makuyeah, but how i will got nil name by whisper? :D
14:07.18Grumand you might want to change the line of text if you really want more help, these kind of addons are generally frowned upon
14:07.24Makukk
14:07.33Eggiyou should also check the spelling
14:07.42Grumand indent your code
14:07.55Grumand ask Ellipsis for pics
14:08.04MakuSendChatMessage("", "WHISPER", nil, arg2); <- still giving errors
14:08.21Ellipsiswhat error?
14:08.23*** join/#wowace Undine (i=shamus@82-32-104-176.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk)
14:08.24Grumso what is the first nil doing there? :)
14:08.31*** join/#wowace tekcub (n=tekkub@c-67-166-39-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
14:08.31Grum~api SendChatMessage
14:08.32purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage
14:08.33Makuits language
14:08.47Grumand nil will autoselect it? :P
14:09.02nevcairielnil will send as default language
14:09.06Makuits language field, if it will be nil, char will use a defgault lang
14:09.21nevcairielIf language is nil or omitted the default language will be used: "ORCISH" for the Horde, and "COMMON" for the Alliance, as returned by GetDefaultLanguage("player").
14:09.27Grumyeah just read it
14:09.47Grumthe question still is, what errors ^^
14:10.18Makullol
14:10.25Makui deleted line 4
14:10.40Makuand still gots error there
14:11.06Ellipsiswhat error
14:11.19Grum^
14:11.19Makuhaha
14:11.23Makuworks
14:11.26Maku:D
14:11.28Ellipsis...
14:11.29Makustupid ide
14:11.53Makui needed to save it and then click run
14:13.06Ellipsisy u do dat :(
14:14.50Grumfinding button :(
14:16.39CIA-2203wt 07IncomingHeals * r50150 10JackKnife/: IncomingHeals: Dir for tag
14:16.58wTOk... not like that -_-
14:17.34CIA-2203wt 07IncomingHeals * r50151 10JackKnife/: IncomingHeals: Wrong dir, deleting...
14:17.35Grumlol
14:17.45Makukk thx for help
14:17.47Makuone more q
14:17.49nevcairielthere is a sandbox for playing
14:17.57Grumsomeone help this fella to make his branch
14:18.09CIA-2203wt * r50152 10/tags/IncomingHeals/: IncomingHeals: Dir for tag
14:18.11Grumoh that reminds me .. i still need an account O.o
14:18.12Makuis there any function that will give me item string from itemid?
14:18.13wTSorry :-(
14:18.22MakuGrum want one?>
14:18.40GrumMaku: well .. need one .. dont want one :D
14:18.50Makuwhat acc you need? WoW?
14:19.13Makui have some to give :P
14:20.00Ellipsisyeah Maku I'm sure he'd trust you on that
14:20.22Ellipsisand he's talking about a SVN account anyway
14:20.29CIA-2203wt 0745_Tattersail * r50153 10IncomingHeals/: IncomingHeals: Dir for tag
14:20.41*** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@cjm-579.stl.gtri.gatech.edu)
14:21.45Grumi wonder what wt is breaking ^^
14:21.55wTBe very afraid
14:22.48CIA-2203wt 0745_Tattersail * r50154 10IncomingHeals/IncomingHeals/: IncomingHeals: Tagging Tattersails latest version
14:23.59*** join/#wowace Lopen|Home (n=Lopen@c-68-62-27-3.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
14:26.07Grummm you still have to mail for SVN access btw? :)
14:26.17Grum(fine with me anyhow)
14:26.48cryogenFrost Shock no longer has Diminishing Returns
14:26.50cryogentf?
14:26.58cryogentoo much shaman love in 2.3 tbh
14:27.25CodayusMaybe
14:27.36cryogennice to see some more warrior nerfs
14:27.38CIA-2203wt * r50155 10IncomingHeals/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)
14:27.38CIA-22IncomingHeals: Committing few fixes/additions with the permission of original author:
14:27.38CIA-22- Fixed graph's "Heal's target" option and added few new options on how it behaves.
14:27.38CIA-22- CompostLib -> new() & del().
14:27.38CIA-22- Whitespace cleanup, spaces to tabs etc, I just had to...
14:27.39CIA-22- Changed event registering.
14:27.41CIA-22- Using embeds.xml now.
14:27.48CodayusThat change is easy to overstate though.  :-)
14:27.51*** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x57327e1e.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
14:27.54cryogen"spaces to tabs" *smack*
14:28.23wTI feel dirty now...
14:28.32cryogenif you cant deal with spaces, get a better editor
14:28.34cryogentabs are so evil
14:29.11CodayusTabs convey semantic information that spaces lack.  So there.
14:29.13Codayus:-)
14:29.32cryogenCodayus: you code python, dont you?
14:29.34LukianWhat does the "Skip SVN Working Copies" option in wau do?
14:29.39Codayus....only sometimes...
14:29.41Ellipsisskips SVN working copies
14:29.42Ellipsis:P
14:29.44cryogenLukian: if you have a .svn dir, it skips updating
14:29.49cryogen~lart Codayus
14:29.50purlwhips out a sword and chops Codayus in half
14:29.59CodayusBut I do think it's an extremely sensible language.
14:30.06Xinhuan~lart
14:30.30cryogentab loving and python loving go hand in hand
14:30.34cryogenthey're both just plain wrong :p
14:30.43EllipsisI have a tab fetish and I don't do python
14:30.47Ellipsisso there
14:30.52SunTsucryogen: I am tab using and I never even saw python ;)
14:31.07cryogeni didnt say they were mutally inclusive:p
14:31.08ZiconPython loving...oh, right, coding channel. No, don't worry, I'll let myself out.
14:31.17Ellipsislol
14:31.22cryogenhah
14:31.29Ellipsisno Zicon, we just have very passionate relationships with snakes here
14:31.36Ellipsis^-^
14:31.41Ellipsisanyway, afk for a bit guys <3
14:31.42CodayusYou see, tabs convey important information about the nature of the line, denote blocks, and are otherwise helpful.
14:31.51ZiconTHANKYOUSOMUCH for that mental image.
14:31.52CodayusAnd a good editor will display them however you like, of course.
14:32.04CodayusWhereas a SPACE...
14:32.13cryogenCodayus: .. in python. :p
14:32.14CodayusWell.
14:32.23SunTsu.o0( Well, I can configure tab width in my editor and even convert tabs to spaces and vice versa. So I don't have any problem  )
14:32.29CodayusNot at all; it means the same thing in C, although the compiler doesn't know it.
14:32.37cryogendoes not
14:32.46cryogennothing that indenting via spaces doesnt
14:32.47cryogenanyway
14:32.59GrumLOL .. spaces to tabs? O.o
14:33.02CodayusExcept more flexible, less confusing, easier to format...
14:33.04Codayus:-D
14:33.06*** join/#wowace Fr3ak0 (n=chatzill@0x50a58153.svgnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
14:33.14cryogenCodayus: see: "get a better editor"
14:33.21Grumindeed
14:33.27Grumnotabsftw
14:34.13wTI guess that's done then, thank you all for help, /bow
14:34.17CodayusWell, as to that, it's been decades since the era of the lone hacker, and you can't rely on other people using the same conventions as you.  If Coder A wants blocks indented 4 spaces, and Coder B 3...
14:34.27GrumwT: you all did this with tortoise? :D
14:34.33CodayusThe obvious answer is to use tabs, set the editor, and you're done.
14:34.36cryogenin short: leave my code the hell alone and im happy :)
14:34.39wTGrum: Yes... why? :-)
14:34.45Grumscary! :D
14:35.00Grumidents should be 4 spaces ^^
14:35.01CodayusOr you could just start writing nasty memos and sneaking in global search and replace commits late at night.  Whatever floats your boat.
14:35.05Grum(let the holy wars start)
14:35.46wTGrum: My indents are four spaces... 'cos I set my editors tabs to be equal to 4 spaces, instead of being two actual spaces like the addon had before :-p
14:36.07cryogen2 spaces ftw
14:36.13Megalonso i'm in av with my warrior and it shows me hits from pets of other players :c
14:36.14Grumtabs are evil unless *completely properly used*
14:36.23Grumcryogen: 2spaces are bad
14:36.28cryogenGrum: i beg to differ
14:36.31CodayusReally, spaces are about *display*; tabs are about *content*.  Overloading one character to do both is untidy.  :-)
14:36.39cryogenCodayus: bollocks :p
14:36.47wTDid I start a war?
14:36.49cryogenin short: do what you want, but dont enforce your style in places you shouldnt
14:36.50Grumif your code indents so heavily that you need 2 spaces to still have it on your screen your code needs refactoring ;D
14:36.55CodayusDisplay should be left to the viewer of the code.
14:37.00cryogenGrum: i use an 80 char wide terminal
14:37.03CodayusSpaces hard code YOUR tab stop preferences.
14:37.08cryogenhorizontal screen space is premium
14:37.13SunTsuwT: Things like this happen to channels like this from time to time ;)
14:37.32wTSunTsu: Yeah I can only imagine ;-)
14:37.36Grumcryogen: awww you just really join us in the 21th century ... we have >80 column displays now :D
14:37.40cryogenGrum: what benefit does 4 give exactly?
14:37.43Codayus(My mouse is recharging; all I can do is type.  No TF2 for me.  A holy war about indentation is a good way to pass the time.)
14:37.50Grumcryogen: blocks stand out more :)
14:37.51cryogenGrum: hey, 80 char is a standard, not a restriction
14:37.52wTWell I haven't been kick&banned yet so I guess I'm doing ok
14:37.54CodayusWell, 4 *is* a power of two.
14:38.02cryogenGrum: see "get a better editor"
14:38.02cryogen:p
14:38.19Grumcryogen: some people opt 136 chars is the standard :)
14:38.26*** join/#wowace Alunora (n=Alunora@h30n4fls303o1095.telia.com)
14:38.27cryogensome people suck
14:38.41cryogenalthough at work i just dont care :p
14:38.46CodayusTo be honest, I think 3 has a lot of potential though.  Large enough that you can easily distinguish two indent levels (and really, with a good editor, that should be obvious), small enough that you can get a decent amount of code in.
14:38.47cryogeni wrap to whatever fits on my screen in visual studio
14:38.48Grumbut seriously, unless you are writing java, 80 columns and 4space indent should be more than plenty :)
14:39.22CodayusNow, *I* knew a guy who used width *8* tab stops...
14:39.25cryogen2 is plenty to see indentation though
14:39.29CodayusThat's clearly heretical.
14:39.31vhaarrdon't blame java for having proper class names
14:39.35cryogeni used to use 4 and switched to 2
14:39.36Grumlol
14:39.39cryogeni didnt really notice the differenc
14:39.40cryogene
14:39.41Lukiandoes WAU have an option to clean out unused libraries?
14:39.41vhaarrif you work on a big enough C project, you'll end up with the same thing
14:39.51CodayusA good editor should make indent levels very clear anyhow via highlighting and such.
14:40.02*** join/#wowace xyu (n=blahblah@c-71-205-176-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
14:40.08Grumnah Codayus
14:40.09Codayuscryogen: And being able to switch is ANOTHER reason why tabs > spaces!
14:40.15Grumcode should be readable by itself
14:40.18*** join/#wowace Paradox (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust10.bagu.broadband.ntl.com)
14:40.24CodayusGrum: Okay, granted.
14:40.26Grumwhich basicly means you'll hardly *ever* pass 7 levels deep indents
14:40.37Grum>6 means refactor is an option
14:40.55cryogenCodayus: tabs are really butchered in some editors
14:40.56SunTsuCodayus: I use tab with 8, too, but, using tabs, I can get every other width any time I want..
14:40.58GrumCodayus: problem is people use tabs to align blocks of code as well
14:41.02cryogenCodayus: and some editors dont let you set tab width
14:41.10kenlyricI really hate those ass clients that turn tabs into spaces.
14:41.12cryogeni like to open my code in notepad and it not be a mix of crap
14:41.21cryogenif i open code in notepad, its ALL indented 2 chars
14:41.21Grumkenlyric: hehe my vim does that by default ^^
14:41.27AlunoraHello, i was away from wow for a while and just downloaded the last patch, now, when i went to update all my mods via WAU, i used ''Upadate all'', but when i check the wow addon list (inside game) it says that almost all of my mods are outdated.Yeah, i know i can still use the addons, but i just thaught it was a bit strange. Did my mods get updated or what ?
14:41.32cryogenGrum: mine too!
14:41.32cryogen<3
14:41.34Codayusre: editors which butcher tabs - I know.  I used to use emacs.  ><
14:41.36Grumindeed :D
14:41.39Grum<3 v im
14:41.46GrumAlunora: do you have the latest WAU?
14:41.55Alunorayeah
14:41.55CodayusI got better though.
14:41.55Grumare you sure?
14:42.06Alunora1.9.44.668
14:42.07CodayusWell, mostly?
14:42.20cryogenCodayus: honestly, both are fine, but the abuse of both makes spaces better
14:42.30cryogen(cool logic huh?)
14:42.32CodayusHeathen.
14:42.37kadrahilheh my pally is going to have sub 11 hours play time to lvl 20 easily
14:42.48kadrahiland i spent a lot of time skilling up mining/BS/first aid/cooking
14:43.23kadrahil*kills the conversation*
14:43.30Alunoragrum, i got version 1.9.44.668
14:43.31CodayusThing is, if you assume people will be stupid and misformat your code, you're screwed anyhow.  If you assume they'll follow a reasonable convention, tabs are better.  :-)
14:43.32Grumtabs can *only* be used from the start of the line to the first letter of the code
14:43.39GrumAlunora: trying to check what the last version is
14:43.48cryogenCodayus: people suck, welcome to the real world
14:43.49Grumsf.net not really workign with me
14:44.10cryogenset settings, open code in visual studio, hit C-a, hit C-k C-f
14:44.11cryogenwin
14:44.22SunTsuGrum: Right, that's the only place to use them
14:44.31Grum1 problem there
14:44.38Grumyou *HAVE* to align on tabstops
14:45.05*** join/#wowace Dustwhisper (n=ask@78.80-202-20.nextgentel.com)
14:45.13Grumso when you do: function looooooooong_funcitonaname(argumentlist, argument, argument,\n\t\t\t\t\t\targument,argument\n)
14:45.17Grumit will completely fuck up
14:45.21Grumand that is the reason tabs dont work
14:45.49GrumAlunora: mm that's the latest version
14:45.58Alunoraokay...
14:46.08Grumif you check  the 'updated' tab (button on the middle searchbar thingie) do you see the update log?
14:46.11wTNot nearly all mods had their tocs updated yet
14:46.39sag_ich_nichthttp://antiadvertisingagency.com/projects/light-criticism/ :D
14:46.53AlunoraGrum: no, it just saysWAU Version (1.9.44.668) assembly version (1.9.44.6754)
14:46.53AlunoraParsing 974 Entries In The Index File...Complete
14:47.04GrumAlunora: what if you update now?
14:47.14Grumaka smack f10 :)
14:47.14AlunoraUpdate all ?
14:47.18Grumofc
14:47.27Alunorasec :P
14:47.34AlunoraUpdate Complete (2007-09-28 16:47:24, total seconds: 1,89)
14:47.34AlunoraSummary: 0 Updated, 0 Errors
14:47.34Alunora***You can access the logs from the View menu***
14:47.34AlunoraUpdate Complete!
14:48.12Alunorai mean, according to WAU the mods are updated, but not according to WoW
14:48.13Grumwhat's the cache age?
14:48.35Grumhmm happen to have 2 wow-install dirs? :D (check the settings of WAU - might just be pushing stuff in a wrong dir)
14:48.35Alunorauhm, i dont know
14:48.37*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)
14:48.41Grumit's on the top of the update
14:48.42dieckAlunora: some developers have not yet updated their addons to match the 2.2.0 patch, but they'll still work
14:48.45dieckAlunora: in most cases
14:48.58dieckAlunora: so you have to switch on the "load out of date addons" option
14:49.02Grumoh cmon you gotto be kidding me Alunora, you are loading wow without 'load out of date addons' ?
14:49.25Grumgood catch dieck
14:49.42Grumwtb users that know the difference ^^ (yes i'm always this nice)
14:49.42sag_ich_nicht~facepalm
14:49.43purlACTION facepalms at the situation
14:49.50dieckpatchday this week, first question after "is the network plugged in" :)
14:49.55Alunoranono, im loading with, they are working fine, but in the main list it says they are not updated
14:50.04Alunorai just thaught it was a bit strange
14:50.12Grum~taser Alunora
14:50.13purlACTION stuns Alunora with a taser, then drags Alunora out into the middle of highway 666
14:50.18Grumyay! <3 purl
14:50.20dieckwhat do you call the "main list"?
14:50.28sbmhhh
14:50.38sbbroom mount is only usable once?
14:50.40Alunoraeh, the addon list inside wow
14:50.46GrumAlunora: who cares if they have the right 'toc' value? no-one! use em!
14:50.55Xinhuanhey grum, get cracking on your addon
14:50.59SunTsuGrum: Hm, OK, that depends on style, I never put function definitions on more than one line, becaus vim wraps them on itself and i like to grep for funktions
14:51.07Alunorawell ok, thanks for your time.
14:51.15dieckcan't we just set the toc to 3.0 or something? at least that would clear the situation until WotLK :)
14:51.20kenlyrici'm lazy, I need more hunter macros.
14:51.22GrumSunTsu: yeah i know but it was just an example
14:51.33kenlyricfive cooldowns distract me
14:51.40Grumhehe
14:51.41dieckkenlyric: autoshot is build in, what do you need more? ;)
14:51.54Grumautoshot&drink tea
14:52.07diecktea is for rogues ;)
14:52.08kenlyrici'm lazy and impatient.
14:52.09Grumdieck: if its > current version it will show the same afaik
14:52.20GrumXinhuan: yes but i have some stupid render bugs atm
14:52.32Grumi hate the fact lua has NIL and -NIL O.o
14:52.41Xinhuandon't worry about those, get the main functionality in and clean up the code first
14:52.47Xinhuani can probably figure out the bugs
14:52.55Grumi know where the problem is
14:52.59Grumoh i've done some cleaning already
14:53.04Grumdropped 4k lines of code orso
14:53.10Grumor .. well .. 1/3 of the code
14:53.20Grumyay for fatass aceopt tables
14:53.26Xinhuanneed a updated copy from you soon, so i can make a "background pathing" version that doesn't lock up wow
14:53.30Xinhuanbut take 100x longer to finish
14:53.42Grumlets chat :D
14:53.50SunTsu.o0( and if indenting is fscked up i will let vim reindent it with my style and I am happy )
14:54.29CIA-2203Tristan * r50156 10Enhancer/ (Console.lua bonus/Windfury.lua):
14:54.29CIA-22Enhancer:
14:54.29CIA-22- Fix so that the WF Cooldown is shown for misses, dodges etc
14:55.01*** join/#wowace Zariel (i=Zariel@host86-137-25-44.range86-137.btcentralplus.com)
14:55.29Zarielmy IQ has dropping 40% after reading comments about rock, lol
14:57.57cryogen:p
14:58.33Undineindentation wars. tabs or spaces. who will win. round one commences. fight!
14:58.49cryogenround one? i thought we were on at least round 3
14:59.04Undine4 or 8 ;)
14:59.11cryogen8? are you insane?
14:59.35Zicon3, just to annoy everyone else. :p
14:59.40Grumcryogen: retab ftw! :D
15:00.00kenlyricis there a bug with combat log?
15:00.09kenlyricsometimes i just don't show up at all in it.
15:00.10Undinetabs are always 8, indent can be different. end of discussion :)
15:00.16kenlyriclike the range is 20 yards or something.
15:00.32cryogenanyway, if you worked for me, i would tell you to leave code as you found it
15:00.40cryogenif you start something new, within reason, you can indent it how you like
15:00.54Undineif you're setting your tabstop to anything other than 8 then expect your code to look crap on other people's screens
15:00.57cryogenif you start butchering existing code, id beat you over the head with a stick
15:01.16Undineyup. agreement there cryogen
15:01.21*** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost)
15:01.21*** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ
15:01.51cryogenpersonal opinions are just that
15:01.53cryogenpersonal :)
15:01.56Undinevisual studio is the suck. it defaults to tabs as an indent of 4. so when you look at it in a proper editor it looks wrong
15:02.19cryogen8 as a tab stop is a) rare and b) stupid :)
15:02.31cryogen4 is pretty standard
15:02.35Undine8 as tab is the original standard!
15:02.41Undine4 as an an /indent/ is lovely
15:02.42cryogenin 1980 maybe
15:03.08Undineone me...
15:03.12Undinemo...
15:03.23cryogenGrum: im vim, i just do =<down>G :)
15:03.35SunTsuAnybody using fubar_CustomMenuFu who can tell me how I can run Macros from menu items?
15:03.43cryogenif it *really* annoys me
15:03.51wTI actually used tab to align part of the code, I think I need to go and change it now...
15:04.03cryogenwelcome to tab hell!
15:04.08Undineoops, no gvim on this pc. but notepad defaults ot 8 for tabs ;)
15:04.23cryogenvim is 4
15:04.29cryogennotepad sucks
15:04.30Undinefor tab or indent?
15:04.46cryogenboth i thought
15:04.49Undinebearing in mind hitting tab doesn't necessarily insert a tab but does indent instead
15:04.58cryogenlet me move my vimrc out of the way
15:05.04Undinelet me check my other pc
15:05.15cryogenhmm
15:05.17cryogenthat looks like 8
15:05.18cryogenevil
15:05.43SunTsucryogen: 'tabstop' 'ts'          number  (default 8)
15:05.48Undinelike i say. tab stops default to 8. try printing something for example as a straght text file
15:06.04Undinethat's why visual studio is evil when it displays a tab char as only 4 spaces
15:06.06*** join/#wowace Scott_Meyer (n=chatzill@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com)
15:06.06AKXBtw, who got commit-get 50000?
15:06.20cryogenUndine: to be fair, who uses VS for anything but coding
15:06.23*** part/#wowace Jorden-ED (n=chatzill@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com)
15:06.27RaydenUniawesome
15:06.32cryogenAKX: some asshat who mass updated TOCs
15:06.33*** join/#wowace lordgreg (n=Gregor@cmb65-149.dial-up.arnes.si)
15:06.40AKXOh =(
15:06.41*** join/#wowace Jorden-ED (n=chatzill@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com)
15:06.54RaydenUniall priests are going to get fear wards and dwarf and dranei are getting a stun spell that ALL priests want perhaps more badly
15:07.04Jorden-EDWOWOW
15:07.06Jorden-EDits not a stun
15:07.10lordgreghi everyone. i'm looking for an ace2 addon that would replace my buff icons in top right corner. i was using Strina's Buff Frames, but that addon ain't ace2 comaptible. any suggestions?:$
15:07.11Jorden-EDits incapacitate
15:07.13Jorden-EDbig diff
15:07.14cryogendwarves can keep their fricking fear ward
15:07.20Dataisgodi use buffalo
15:07.20cryogennerfed it to the point of uselessness
15:07.30Undinecryogen, fair point
15:07.33RaydenUnilordgreg what do you want? decreasing bars? try ElkBuffBars
15:07.37lordgregno..
15:07.43lordgregicons which i could move and maybe scale
15:07.46lordgregthat's all
15:07.54Jorden-EDIs anyone else having odd problems with Antagonist anchor position?
15:07.59RaydenUnii haven't used one so i can't help you then
15:08.02Undinething is i code for a living and people using tabs displayed as anything other than 8 really screws things up and you end up with higgldy piggldy code
15:08.11cryogencan you scale buff icons with EBB?
15:08.12RaydenUnii think i'd prefer a 2 second stun over a fear ward
15:08.19RaydenUniyou can scale EBB
15:08.21cryogenhow?
15:08.27lordgregcryogen: EBB makes bars, not icons
15:08.28RaydenUnimaybe you could turn off the bars
15:08.30cryogenspent ages trying to find that option :p
15:08.33cryogenlordgreg: i know
15:08.36RaydenUniEBB has icons though
15:08.39Jorden-EDincapacitate, not stun
15:08.40cryogenlordgreg: i was asking an unrelated question :)
15:08.47lordgregi'll try buffalo; sry cryogen
15:08.50*** join/#wowace Poffnuff (n=Alunora@h30n4fls303o1095.telia.com)
15:08.53RaydenUniwhat's the difference Jorden-ED
15:09.00Jorden-EDincapacitate is like gouge
15:09.01cryogenyou just reminded me of somethin gi wanted to know
15:09.03Jorden-EDbreaks on dmg
15:09.16Poffnuffhi, is there any Inventory addons that shows items tooltips in 2.2 ?
15:09.29RaydenUnioh, i'd still take it
15:09.40*** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
15:09.46Jorden-EDand its holy dmg
15:09.53cryogenRaydenUni: how do you scale the bars in eeb then?
15:09.54Jorden-EDso its looking twords not being able to be used in shadow form
15:10.00RaydenUnioh its holy?
15:10.03RaydenUninevermind then
15:10.06Poffnuffis there any Inventory addons that shows items tooltips in 2.2
15:10.16RaydenUnicryogen i dunno, but i thought you could do it
15:10.28Silviu-Poffnuff) BaudBag :)
15:10.32Jorden-EDBut it does prity good dmg
15:10.35Jorden-EDits gunna be a nuke
15:10.54Jorden-EDanywho... anyone here use Antagonist??
15:11.03vithosare tthere any inventory addon't that DON'T show item tooltips?
15:11.34Jorden-EDidk.. 2.2 is weird
15:11.42Jorden-EDmy tooltips don't show up in char screen anymore =/
15:12.07_dreamssupdate ur addons
15:12.12Jorden-EDme?
15:12.14Jorden-EDI did
15:12.22wodendo you use itemrack?
15:12.24Poffnuffvithos: well, i used Onebag, but when i updated to 2.2 it stoped showing tooltips
15:12.38wodenyes jorden-ed
15:12.48wTBaggins is working fine
15:12.50Jorden-EDyes, but I don't care if tooltips arn't in my char screen.. not that bad
15:12.52vithosPoffnuff: i just ran onebag today, it seemed to be working.  but i use baggins
15:13.00wodeni believe it works in v1.992
15:13.17Jorden-EDMy problem is with Antagonist...
15:13.25*** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@0x573078e2.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
15:13.28Jorden-EDThe stupid anchors are moving off the screen when I relog...
15:13.36Jorden-EDOnce you get used to pvp with ant, you cant pvp without it =/
15:13.47lordgregyay- buffallo wurkz nice!
15:13.53lordgregbb safrina buff frames :P
15:14.08vithosanyone know of a way to determine if health is being estimated by mobhealth3 or somesuch, in a dogtag string?
15:14.13RaydenUnii've been using arkinventory. i like it better than baggins so far
15:14.43LukianI use wow's bags, I like them better than any bag mod :D
15:14.56Zariel<3 bagnon
15:15.07Poffnuffmeh, baudbag doesnt show tooltips either
15:15.12Poffnuffjust tryed it
15:16.10vithosPoffnuff: try disabling everything else
15:16.20Poffnuffkk
15:16.32vithosPoffnuff: if that works, re-enable a few things at a time to figure out what's causing it
15:16.52Jorden-EDno one here uses Antagonist? gah.. I am gunna die in rl =/
15:17.38cryogenwhat does buffalo do btw?
15:17.42cryogengot a screenshot?
15:17.59lordgregerrr.. sorry, dont..
15:18.07lordgregbut letme just give you few extras..
15:18.17Poffnuffif i disable everything else it works
15:18.26RaydenUnii was sort of hoping all priest racials would be global
15:18.33RaydenUnii'd enjoy some of the other racials
15:18.34lordgregthink of it as extended buff icons on top right corner, you can move, scale, move horiz/vert etc.
15:18.36Undinei have antagonist i think. seems to work for me.
15:19.59steev64vithos: yeah, i need to do the same on my rogue, everything works fine on my shaman, but the rogue has something specific to rogue that seems to be causing the tooltip issue there
15:21.54vithosbtw if you want to make the task of re-enabling a few addons at a time easier and you have a ton of addons, get ACP (adds an Addons window to the main ESC menu so you don't have to logout to enable/disable stuff)
15:23.05*** join/#wowace Cidan (i=feh@conspiracy/developer/Cidan)
15:25.12_dreamssi use khaos
15:26.44*** join/#wowace Herr (n=pipistot@HSI-KBW-091-089-009-210.hsi2.kabelbw.de)
15:28.01PoffnuffVithois: It says that all addons are not loadable on demand
15:28.22PoffnuffVithos*
15:28.39vithosPoffnuff: click the reload button
15:29.04*** join/#wowace Bver__ (n=chatzill@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com)
15:31.36*** join/#wowace Mire (n=Mire@huntersrun-cm-195.usa2net.net)
15:31.50*** join/#wowace Bibi` (n=Boubouil@AVelizy-151-1-93-213.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr)
15:34.14*** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@dhcp27.public.dc.umich.edu)
15:35.26Poffnuff[C]: ?   ..\FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua:602:      ..\FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua:600   [C]: ?   ReagentInfo\ReagentInfo.lua:1253: ContainerFrameItemButton_OnEnter()   [string "*:OnEnter"]:1:      [string "*:OnEnter"]:1
15:36.30wTI'll take a wild guess and say ReagentInfo is to blame
15:36.38*** join/#wowace Mech0z (i=Mech0z@d40ae5d9.rev.stofanet.dk)
15:37.14Poffnuffyeah, just removed it and it worked :P
15:37.32Silviu-Poffnuff last version ? 1.293 ?
15:37.33wTIt's been quite long since I used ReagentInfo, isn't Mendeleev pretty much same? Except that it works, ofcourse
15:37.36*** join/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl)
15:37.41Silviu-At me BaudBag works ok
15:40.24*** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@g34212.upc-g.chello.nl)
15:40.25*** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ
15:41.15*** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire)
15:41.15*** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ
15:44.49*** join/#wowace Korben (n=Korben@c83-250-136-194.bredband.comhem.se)
15:45.05Zarieldamn i hate stubby
15:47.02*** join/#wowace YourMomsHero (n=cirish@74.202.196.195)
15:47.17*** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
15:47.21*** join/#wowace echos (n=echos@cpe-24-161-172-46.san.res.rr.com)
15:47.56*** join/#wowace daubinator (n=daub@12-207-65-65.client.mchsi.com)
15:49.27*** join/#wowace Vilkku (n=Vilkku@83-148-207-52.dyndsl.ssp.fi)
15:50.27*** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=Aeyan@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com)
15:50.31*** join/#wowace Pulpstar (n=blundell@82.27.237.32)
15:50.36Pulpstarhi
15:52.18*** part/#wowace lordgreg (n=Gregor@cmb65-149.dial-up.arnes.si)
15:54.15*** join/#wowace Xil0 (n=Wintermu@h90n1fls33o1000.telia.com)
15:56.19*** part/#wowace daubinator (n=daub@12-207-65-65.client.mchsi.com)
15:56.22ChieaHaving problems with Cartographer_mining
15:56.39*** join/#wowace daubinator (n=daub@12-207-65-65.client.mchsi.com)
15:56.40ChieaSays something about AceAddon2 :c
15:57.17Xil0Anyone else experiencing that Omen shows inaccurate numbers with Hunter-pets?
15:59.41*** join/#wowace Vilkkuu (n=Vilkku@83-148-207-52.dyndsl.ssp.fi)
16:00.01*** part/#wowace daubinator (n=daub@12-207-65-65.client.mchsi.com)
16:00.47MegalonXil0: i think parser-3.0 has some problems with pet damage, as i get spammed with pet skills in AV on parrot
16:00.48*** join/#wowace Mire (n=Mire@huntersrun-cm-195.usa2net.net)
16:00.55Megalon... with my warrior :o
16:01.19Xil0Cause, according to omen. My pet growls for 80k threat, hits for 5k and  has 900k TPS.
16:01.31hastesounds accurate
16:01.54kenlyricyup
16:02.26kenlyrici'm having issues with my combat log not picking up *me*
16:02.46kadrahilkenlyric: "please delete your WTF folder and all addons, kthx"
16:02.55irandamayI'm having issues with my pet not generating aggro at all :)  Unless they broke the Inner Demons at Leo
16:03.09kenlyrickadrahil: and WoW and Windows?
16:03.17kadrahilkenlyric: sure
16:03.33Zarielwhats the dogtag 2 page ?
16:03.41Zarielhttp://wowace.com/wiki/LibDogTag-2.0
16:03.42Zarieldoesnt work
16:03.59kadrahilpurl: dogtag?
16:04.09kadrahilpurl: answer me!
16:04.20kadrahilpurl: fail
16:04.21purlACTION gives kadrahil the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus!
16:04.29ulic~DogTag
16:04.30kadrahil:(
16:04.48Wobinpurl isn't to be abused =)
16:04.54Wobinshe's not just a wowace bot
16:04.56*** join/#wowace Gale (n=Gale212@85-211-246-87.dsl.pipex.com)
16:05.06Wobinso we shouldn't pollute her with too specific information like addons
16:06.58CIA-2203ackis * r50157 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (6 files):
16:06.58CIA-22FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
16:06.58CIA-22- Enchanting Nexus Transformation code added
16:06.58CIA-22- deDE, frFR, and zhTW localizations need updating
16:06.58CIA-22- ToC Bumped to 2.2
16:07.32*** join/#wowace DvdKhl (i=DvdKhl@p508A402B.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:07.43LetheKai|AwayHey, is anyone else having issues with ChatSounds reporting party chat after 2.2?
16:09.44*** join/#wowace Javula (n=chatzill@207.47.42.130.static.nextweb.net)
16:10.51DustwhisperAny addon that will autodelete trash items you spesify from bags ?
16:11.00cryogenye
16:11.03cryogenjust cant think of th ename
16:12.07evlI got one
16:12.12_raneis it possible to check the contents of your bank with baggins without being at the bank?
16:12.24evlhttp://code.google.com/p/evladdons/ <- evl_Scavengert
16:12.26Javulalooking for any one who can help me with rock and cartographer since every time i log in or refresh ui the cartographer exit on escape does not get set ... matter of fact most nest setting changes to rock cause it not remeber
16:12.27LetheKai|AwayWould GarbageFu do what Dust wants?
16:12.46Undinebaggins: use the fubar menu
16:12.53*** join/#wowace yssaril (n=chatzill@adsl-76-217-108-251.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net)
16:13.02LetheKai|AwayOoo, cool name Undine.  =D
16:13.04Undineautodeleting trash: not auto but garbage_fu is nice for that
16:13.38durcynDustwhisper: Minimalist can auto-vendor greys.
16:13.41wT_rane: There's another addon "Baggins_AnywhereBags" that might do that for you
16:13.46LetheKai|AwayDoes anyone else here use ChatSounds, or another mod that beeps in some way whenever someone talks in party/whisper/etc?
16:14.22Undinei doubt you can auto-delete stuff without a mouse click or some such
16:14.45*** join/#wowace hani (n=hani@207-237-100-180.c3-0.avec-ubr11.nyr-avec.ny.cable.rcn.com)
16:15.41LetheKaiGuess I'll try ChatAlertsFu and see if that works.
16:15.42*** join/#wowace PProvost (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost)
16:15.42*** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ
16:17.21Dustwhisperdont want to vendor
16:17.29Dustwhisperi want them deleted from inventory whenever they are picked up
16:17.44durcynUndine: nope, it's quite possible for an addon to sell things without user interactoin.
16:17.49durcyninteraction, as well
16:17.49LetheKaiGarbageFu drops items, too, but I don't know if it's auto.
16:18.21LetheKaiIt has a function to drop the cheapest/most worthless items first... or did when I last used it.
16:18.24Undinesell yes, what about delete?
16:18.52*** join/#wowace Bendo| (n=klsdjg@mg050a.studby.ntnu.no)
16:19.02wTNecronomicon was able to delete a soulshard that didn't go in to the (full) shard-bag
16:21.27alextyah
16:21.29Reclusedust said "trash you specify" - i remember playing with something a few months ago that auto-looted, but has an auto-loot blacklist, which would essentially ensure you don't pick up any trash you didn't want
16:21.33alextthat addon can and necrosis can still do that
16:21.39alextthey can auto delete shards based on a limit you set
16:22.08*** join/#wowace [AoC]Camci (i=Camci@c-d633e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
16:22.19CodayusYeah, you can delete items without a hardware event.  I've got a shard addon that does that...
16:24.21Bibi`without confirmation ?
16:24.26*** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire)
16:24.26*** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ
16:24.26[AoC]Camciwhoever made the WAU <333333
16:24.28Bibi`that's potentially very evil :/
16:24.39CodayusBibi`: Only install addons you trust?  :-)
16:25.11Bibi`that's my point, you shouldn't have to "trust" an addon before installing it
16:25.17cryogenwont you get the normal confirmation for epics though?
16:25.27Codayuscryogen: I'm sure.
16:25.31wTI think I disabled the shard deletion too, just in case...
16:25.37KahlasBibi`, of course you should
16:25.39[AoC]Camcimeh evertime i updated Cartographer it downloads all the other 20 addons for it... :/
16:25.43Kahlasit's just like any other program
16:26.10CodayusBibi`: *shrug*  Addons can always do bad things.  Wait till a boss fight and spam your raid leader with tells concerning his ancestry, if nothing else.
16:26.53Bibi`well, it's easier to justify a spam to your raid leader than all your items deleted ^^
16:27.18Codayus*shrug*
16:27.30wTOh, blue items give the confirmation box too
16:27.58cryogeni wouldnt say you need to trust an addon
16:28.04CodayusI've only ever heard of one malicious addon ever being written, and THAT was a joke which randomly made you say embarassing things every few minutes if you idled in town...
16:28.06cryogeni would be quite happy about trustin ga release platform
16:28.13cryogenyou would expect to find some user feedback on a sour addon
16:28.21Kahlascryogen, that is trust though
16:28.29Kahlasit's trust gained from teh community
16:28.33Kahlaspeer review and whatnot
16:28.33cryogenyes but
16:28.36cryogenthats the point
16:28.38Codayuscryogen: I'd say...YES you need to trust addons, but you're safe to do it because of the nature of the community.  :-)
16:28.41Kahlasyes, that is the point :)
16:28.44cryogenthe addon's code is open, so someone else can check it for me
16:28.45CodayusSemantics, to be sure.
16:28.46Kahlasyou should have some trust in anything you run on your PC
16:28.49cryogeni dont have to check it myself
16:28.53Kahlascryogen, right
16:28.58cryogenim happy doing that
16:29.05UndineCodayus, cool addon, where can i get it?
16:29.05cryogenim not happy accepting random addons from people i dont know
16:29.06Kahlasi don't go through the code for most of the things i use daily
16:29.08Kahlasbut i could
16:29.13Kahlasand because of that i know that someone else out there probably has
16:29.19*** join/#wowace charon (n=charon@77-56-85-248.dclient.hispeed.ch)
16:29.21Kahlasand would report to the community if anything shady was going down
16:29.24*** join/#wowace Bendo| (n=klsdjg@mg050a.studby.ntnu.no)
16:29.24Kahlasthat gives some level of trust
16:29.28CodayusUndine: Oh, it was years ago.  I don't even recall what addon.  That version was nixed fast, author got into a world of grief.
16:29.28charonevening
16:30.09cryogenKahlas: this could be exploited of course and we could both be bitten
16:30.12cryogenbut hey, thats life :)
16:30.22Kahlasyep
16:30.28CodayusA GM should be good for a restore I'd expect.
16:30.34Dustwhisper(Bibi`) that's my point, you shouldn't have to "trust" an addon before installing it
16:30.37cryogenyea
16:30.38cryogenlikely
16:30.39Kahlasin general though... if you're careful about where you get things
16:30.40Dustwhisperyou cant delete epix without typing DELETE
16:30.41Kahlasyou're usually ok
16:30.49Kahlasi've not had anything nasty on any of my machines in a long long time
16:30.59wTDustWhisper: Nor blues :-)
16:30.59Dustwhisperanyways
16:31.00Bibi`but ... what if it deletes all the letter I've got from fans ? :(
16:31.09cryogenhey whats a good eu pvp server to roll an alt on?
16:31.11Dustwhisperwhat addon can I use that will either blacklist trash i specify by name OR autodelete trash i specify by name
16:31.19cryogenpreferably one where someone here will give me some startup gold/bags? :p
16:31.20CodayusA friend of mine deleted every item, mailed the gold away, deleted his character, and cancelled his account...he thought he was too addicted to pvping.
16:31.36CodayusA couple months later, he got a GM to undelete the char and restore most of the items...
16:32.04CodayusApparently, WoW needs the equivalent of "do not resucitate" orders...
16:33.00kenlyricis there a mod that will let me track stuff like oshu'gun crystal powder and obsidian warbeads on fubar?
16:33.05kenlyricCodayus: I did that twice.
16:33.31kenlyricThere is... no escape.
16:33.31CodayusHeh
16:33.55Undinekenlyric, farmerfu maybe. though i prefer farmit which isn't fubar
16:35.42*** join/#wowace Dia (n=Dia@c-76-24-177-191.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
16:35.45Dustwhisperhmm did anyone actually remember a trash addon that will delete/blacklist named items ?
16:36.47*** join/#wowace echos (n=echos@cpe-24-161-172-46.san.res.rr.com)
16:37.06Undinei vaguely recall an addon called EmptyBag that would do that I think
16:37.59*** join/#wowace shingo (n=shingo@p5B0570A6.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:38.53*** join/#wowace Legorol (n=legorol@stud-nat-blk12.trin.cam.ac.uk)
16:39.00MegalonDustwhisper: tried http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/5705/ ?
16:39.21kadrahilDustwhisper: fubar_garbagefu
16:39.46CIA-2203adirelle * r50158 10BankList/BankList.toc: BankList: bump toc Interface to 20200.
16:40.04Dustwhisperok ill test them
16:40.06Dustwhisperthx guys
16:40.24CIA-2203adirelle * r50159 10CastYeller/CastYeller.toc: CastYeller: bump toc Interface to 20200.
16:40.53CIA-2203adirelle * r50160 10FuBar_ThreatFu/FuBar_ThreatFu.toc: FuBar_ThreatFu: bump toc Interface to 20200.
16:41.06CIA-2203adirelle * r50161 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.toc: SimpleSelfRebuff: bump toc Interface to 20200.
16:41.25CIA-2203adirelle * r50162 10Violation_CombatLogRange/Violation_CombatLogRange.toc: Violation_CombatLogRange: bump toc Interface to 20200.
16:45.14kenlyricdang, adi isn't here.
16:46.28*** join/#wowace zeeg (n=zeeg@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
16:46.30irandamaykenlyric: FarmerFu will track any item you want on fubar
16:47.19kenlyricexcept halaa, bah!
16:48.01irandamayexcept halaa?
16:48.33*** join/#wowace Paradox (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust10.bagu.broadband.ntl.com)
16:48.56kenlyricoh, farmerfu.
16:48.59kenlyrici tried factionitemsfu
16:49.51*** join/#wowace theoddone33 (n=jimbob@pool-71-109-108-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)
16:50.02Bendo|kenlyric: FuBar_FactionItemsFu does that last I checked
16:50.13kenlyricit doesn't do crystal powders.
16:50.19kenlyricnor have an option for halaa at all.
16:50.38kenlyricnot a big deal, I care about that one very little
16:50.52Qaarhhrm, in the WAU there's an option in the file menu to "Cleanup WoW Saved Variables". What will be cleaned up? Saved vars for deleted or not present addons?
16:51.05kenlyricand librock :)
16:51.23*** join/#wowace darchon (i=darchon@222.112.27.234)
16:52.19*** join/#wowace Archarodim (n=Archarod@213.41.96.66)
16:53.51CIA-2203deccard * r50163 10MiniChat/Core.lua:
16:53.51CIA-22MiniChat:
16:53.51CIA-22- SmartMinimize triggers on monster yells and channel joins/leaves now, too
16:53.56kenlyricwhat I really need is something really lazy, that will count *down* the number of beads/kills I need until the next rep level.
16:55.09HjalteQaarh: It will delete the saved variables for addons that are not present in your addons folder anymore afaik
16:55.09*** join/#wowace Vires (n=vires@69-77-205-221.gwtc.net)
16:56.18QaarhHjalte: ok, thanks. Going to back up my vars and try
16:56.40HjalteQaarh: It backs them up for you, before it runs.
16:58.00*** join/#wowace toronar (n=toronar@nerv.toronar.de)
17:00.10HjalteAnyone else experiencing that they can not open Alchemy with tcg's Tradeskills anymore?
17:02.39*** join/#wowace Bendo| (n=klsdjg@mg050a.studby.ntnu.no)
17:03.24*** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@p54A504E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
17:04.34*** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@81-179-128-189.dsl.pipex.com)
17:05.24*** join/#wowace Lukian (n=wizard@203.171.70.21)
17:06.49CIA-2203ulic * r50164 10LittleWigs/ (README.txt TempestKeep/Dalliah.lua):
17:06.49CIA-22LittleWigs:
17:06.50CIA-22- Changed Whirlwind trigger(enUS), as she doesn't yell everytime, kept old triggers until translations are updated.
17:06.50CIA-22- Added Heal warning (enUS)
17:07.48*** join/#wowace Speeddymon (n=a@tera-24-206-151-175.kw.tx.cebridge.net)
17:10.13*** join/#wowace charon_ (n=charon@77-56-85-248.dclient.hispeed.ch)
17:12.14Trell_~LittleWigs
17:12.19Reclusekenlyric: tried Rep2?
17:12.20irandamaythere used to be a reputation addon that did that (told you how many kills/items to go)
17:12.43Zarielpurl, Littlewigs is bigwigs; just smaller
17:12.43purlZariel: okay
17:12.54Trell_ty
17:12.56Trell_checked the wiki
17:12.59Trell_:P
17:13.00Zarielfor heroics
17:13.41CIA-2203cwdg * r50165 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/Core.lua:
17:13.41CIA-22BigWigs_WaveTimers: -
17:13.41CIA-22add zhCN local.
17:14.03iNFUSEhi uhm im trying to log on to th ptr servers and it says unable to authenticate game version.
17:14.11Reclusei use Rep2 for kills and NextStep (hacked to make sense to me) for rep items
17:14.51iNFUSEanyone know what to do?
17:16.43*** join/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@24-236-181-169.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com)
17:17.28*** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7)
17:18.31*** join/#wowace Intruos (n=intruos@pool-71-173-108-182.lyncva.east.verizon.net)
17:18.51IntruosHey all
17:19.03*** join/#wowace Bendo| (n=klsdjg@mg050a.studby.ntnu.no)
17:19.04*** join/#wowace Bver__ (n=chatzill@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com)
17:19.36IntruosGot a troubleshooting question if anyone has a sec. :P
17:20.19KaydeethreeiNFUSE, read the damn stickies in the PTR forum: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778584398&sid=1
17:20.21MrUsefulURL: WoW Forums -> ____ Unable to Validate Game Version
17:20.27*** part/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)
17:20.37Kaydeethreeantiarc: ping, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778517681&sid=1&pageNo=1
17:20.38MrUsefulURL: WoW Forums -> Non-fatal Assertion Failed
17:20.55NeoTronso
17:21.07NeoTronthis is the best spam email subject line I've seen in a long time
17:21.10NeoTron<PROTECTED>
17:21.27NeoTronnothin' like some good ole wet hair pie to hump
17:21.45cryogenMessage: Error: AddOn FuBar attempted to call a forbidden function (TargetUnit()) from a tainted execution path.
17:21.48cryogenwtf
17:21.54cryogenall i did was went to the new chat tab, right click target
17:21.59Dustwhisperanyone else having trouble with auctioneer being completely fubar after patch
17:22.03*** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)
17:22.46kenlyricthat's the most random bug *ever*
17:22.58kenlyricI loaded up Rep2, and it enabled my default character frame.
17:23.45Fisker-btw Antiarc you there?
17:23.51CIA-2203ackis * r50166 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (5 files):
17:23.51CIA-22FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
17:23.51CIA-22- Added SkillsPlusFu:CRAFT_UPDATE()
17:23.51CIA-22- Removed unneeded enchanting code from SkillsPlusFu:CHAT_MSG_SPELL_TRADESKILLS()
17:23.51CIA-22- Localizations still need to be updated (2 entries in each one now)
17:23.51CIA-22- Enchanting cooldowns now officially work :D
17:24.21sedai|:D
17:25.01Intruosstartpos, endpos, spell, hitcrit, target, amount, type = string.find(CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE, "Your (.+) ([hits|crits]+) (.+) for ([%d]+) (.+) damage.")
17:25.10IntruosAfter doing this string.find, no spells will work... At all
17:25.13IntruosI'm at a loss
17:25.33IntruosThe icons will highlight in the hotbar, but no action is taken. Really odd.
17:27.26*** join/#wowace MoonWolf_ (n=MoonWolf@g34212.upc-g.chello.nl)
17:28.53NeoTronDustwhisper: did you upgrade it to the new version?
17:29.04*** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7)
17:29.16NeoTronI use auctioneer advanced and it works
17:30.54*** join/#wowace cncfanatics (i=evolve@186.23-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)
17:31.14NeoTronso
17:31.28NeoTronthe new void reaver is fun. I did half my damage with dots (CoD, immo, corr)
17:31.33*** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net)
17:31.33*** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ
17:31.35NeoTronand i'm a destruction 0/21/40 warlock
17:31.44*** join/#wowace oli__ (n=oliver@pD9E6A8AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
17:31.53*** part/#wowace oli__ (n=oliver@pD9E6A8AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
17:32.23Eggiwhy do you cast corr and not shadowbolt?
17:32.29Silviu-Hmm, need advice, first one addon for shaman totems and second, a good lvl-ing spec :)
17:33.12NeoTronEggi: new more frequent/faster bolts
17:33.17NeoTronI could barely stand still
17:33.25Eggi0.5 sek for a much better cast
17:33.29NeoTronand corruption does, in theory, more damage over time
17:33.33Eggicorr makes no sense for a destru lock
17:33.34NeoTronDPSC
17:33.38NeoTronis higher
17:33.44NeoTrontheory crafted
17:33.46Eggican't crit
17:33.48Eggiso no
17:33.59NeoTronDPS for SB is calculcated including estimated crits
17:34.12NeoTronalso 4 piece t5 set bonus increases corruption by 10
17:34.17Eggithen you don't have enough crit for a destruction spec
17:34.41NeoTroncorruption did, on average, 3.1k
17:34.43Eggiand then affli is much better
17:35.15NeoTronI barely had time to do a 2 second cast
17:35.20_ranewhat addon do you suggest for switching between two helmets with a hotkey?
17:35.23NeoTronI don't think you realize how much I had to move :P
17:35.27Silviu-Nobody with a shaman here ? ;(
17:35.36Dustwhisperclosetgnome
17:35.58*** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funkydud@host81-157-50-199.range81-157.btcentralplus.com)
17:36.29NeoTronomg wtf. I missed 9% of my SB's
17:36.34NeoTronwonder how THAT happened
17:36.46Funkeh`hello
17:37.17NeoTronavg SB: 4787 avg Corr (per 2.5s cast): 3922
17:37.33sbstop typing 'sb'
17:37.34NeoTronso yeah, SB is somewhat better.. but again, I often had to break 2s casts to move
17:37.36sbhighlight :/
17:37.41NeoTronsb: sorry
17:38.05Silviu-sb is fun :)
17:38.08Silviu-^^
17:38.15KarlThePagansounds like you need a new name
17:38.16Silviu-sb - ing
17:38.17Silviu-;P
17:38.21sb:/
17:38.26Silviu-Ok ok srry ;p
17:38.28KarlThePaganhehe
17:38.46NeoTronaverage immolate per 2.5s cast time = 5358
17:38.51NeoTronso that's clearly better
17:39.07NeoTronbut I only got off 30 shadow bolts in the whole fight
17:39.25cryogenopen rock config
17:39.31cryogenfind buffalo
17:39.32cryogenclick config
17:39.42cryogendropdown menu appears, RIGHT OVER the"reset" button
17:39.48Eggihow much crit do you have? seems a bit low if your corr does nearly the same
17:40.09NeoTronI missed 9% of the spells, had 4 partially resisted
17:40.22NeoTronI dunno why I had such catastrophic miss rate. bad luck I guess (I'm hit maxed)
17:40.26KarlThePaganneo - tried big fire? immo, hellfire, conflag?
17:40.27*** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanmor@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
17:40.30LetheKaiAnyone know how to get KC Mobility to work?
17:40.47KarlThePaganwhich fight? resistances could explain the miss rate on prince
17:40.58cncfanaticscurse of shadows should negate that
17:41.02KarlThePaganshould
17:41.05NeoTron!c us kilrogg Aminai
17:41.06ThraeBotNeoTron: Aminai, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/21/40). 10207 HP; 8940 Mana; 113 mana regen; 221 spell crit; 163 spell hit; 1051 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (1105); 215 shadow dmg (1266); 4.59% dodge; 13 resilience;[[ TBR: 941 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28webu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2u6nfl ][ Updated: Fri Sep 28 13:56:04 2007 EST ]]
17:41.11cncfanaticsshould be used on bosses with that much resistant if doom was used
17:41.19cncfanaticss/resistant/resistance/
17:41.24NeoTronKarlThePagan: fire is really quite a bit worse both personal dps and helping the raid
17:41.41KarlThePaganah yea imp sbolt is my friend as a spriest ;)
17:42.05NeoTron23.87% crit with that, bit less when I use my spell hit
17:42.13*** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7)
17:42.30Silviu-!vs us kilrogg Aminai eu gorgonnash Littleone
17:42.32ThraeBotSilviu-: Aminai vs Littleone! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 0/21/40 vs 41/0/20; Littleone wins by 216 TBRs!
17:42.41Silviu-:)
17:42.46NeoTronyeah my spec is not pvp-friendly :P
17:42.54Silviu-I`m pve speccced ;p
17:43.03Silviu-!c eu gorgonnash Littleone
17:43.05ThraeBotSilviu-: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 9860 HP; 8920 Mana; 127 mana regen; 173 spell crit; 179 spell hit; 1154 +spell dmg; 110 shadow dmg (1264); 4.59% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 1210 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmusz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mwlxh ][ Updated: Fri Sep 28 13:57:36 2007 EST ]]
17:43.20NeoTronraid destruction spec is quite crap for pve, more so than affliction
17:43.45Eggi!vs eu gorgonnash Littleone eu wrathbringer Eggii
17:43.47CIA-2203cwdg * r50167 10BigWigs/ (13 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: update zhCN local
17:43.51ThraeBotEggi: Littleone vs Eggii! A L70 warlock and a L70 priest square off!; 41/0/20 vs 14/0/47; Littleone wins by 77 TBRs!
17:43.52Silviu-Need shaman addon !
17:44.06*** join/#wowace Daemona (n=me@c169021.adsl.hansenet.de)
17:44.08fatewhats the best way to recruit people for a raiding guild, anywhere to post openings that'd be cross realm?
17:44.43NeoTronhmm
17:44.51cncfanaticsfate, what raiding guild (where's ur progress), what continent & what classes ? :o
17:44.51NeoTronI think I probably forgot to put on my spellhit ring
17:45.03cncfanaticsNeoTron, 9% spellhit on ur ring ?
17:45.03NeoTronthe armory outfit is what I use when i have an elemental shammy
17:45.14NeoTronnot 9%
17:45.17fatecncfanatics: 3/4 TK and 3/6 SSC, eu, and any classes if they're decent
17:45.25fateand can raid at least 4 nights midweek
17:45.29cncfanaticsside & server fate ?
17:45.34fatehorde quel'thalas
17:45.38cncfanatics:o
17:45.42cncfanaticsi'm currently rerolling on eu kazzak :p
17:45.51cncfanaticsi'm an ex hardcore raider, damn tbc made me quit raiding :p
17:46.03fatetbc raiding is imho quite different
17:46.05Silviu-;)
17:46.12fatepre-tbc you could sit on your ass and nobody would notice
17:46.25LetheKaiYeah, TBC raiding hasn't been as fun for me, but gonna give it another chance anyway.  =x
17:46.33fatein tbcs its too easy for one person to screw up everyone else
17:46.34NeoTron1% from draenei + ashyen's gift
17:46.35Eggitbc raiding is imo much better
17:46.42fateyeah its better, but less easy
17:47.02kenlyrichmmm.. grindstatus says I have 3710 rep between neutral and friendly.
17:47.02cncfanaticsfate, I was always top dmg in my guild and considered it an offence if I wasnt :p
17:47.05*** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com)
17:47.10fatewhat class?
17:47.13cncfanaticsmage
17:47.14kenlyricI'm like, super neutral.
17:47.15fatehaha
17:47.16Pucmelehm ... so you could sit in naxx ... ok
17:47.20fateyou're in for a rude awakening then ;)
17:47.26cncfanaticsi'm no longer a mage
17:47.30fatePucmel: not naxx, true
17:47.31cncfanaticshe's on a dead server :(
17:47.44cncfanaticsfate, u cldnt slack anymore from aq40 on pretbc pretty much
17:47.54cncfanaticsaq40 just rocked
17:47.58fateyes, so thats what, 2 instances?
17:48.05cncfanaticstrue enough
17:48.08fatein tbc I dont think you can slack from gruul onwards
17:48.13cncfanatics<3 battleguard sartura really
17:48.25cncfanaticsfate, if u consider rerollers, maybe :p
17:48.40fatecncfanatics: well you need to have cleared kara etc ;)
17:48.43wTSigh, I'm stuck in a guild that's always 5-10 people short of dedicated people to do proper raiding, first stuck in MC most of the time pre-expansion, now mostly stuck in Kara :-(
17:49.04LetheKaiThat sucks wT.  =(
17:49.06cncfanaticsfate, killed lil void reaver
17:49.11fateyeah that does suck
17:49.11cncfanaticson my other char that is
17:49.21fateI'd rather slit my wrists than go kara ever again
17:49.32cncfanaticsfate, do u consider people with raiding experience that reroll ? :)
17:49.49fatecncfanatics: yes, but you need to be able to raid immediately, why does rerolling matter?
17:49.51CIA-2203arith * r50168 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua:
17:49.51CIA-22AtlasLoot:
17:49.51CIA-22- update supported Atlas version to v1.10.2
17:50.00cncfanaticsfate, I have no main currently
17:50.07fatecncfanatics: if your gear is good enough, then thats cool
17:50.20cncfanaticsmy mains are on a dead server (1 raiding guild meh), so I'm currently level 23 :p
17:50.30cncfanaticsand their transfer is on cd
17:50.47cncfanaticsmy old pretbc main:
17:50.53cncfanatics!c eu bronze dragonflight cncfanatics
17:50.55ThraeBotcncfanatics: Cncfanatics, Level 70 Undead Mage (18/42/1). 6823 HP; 8816 Mana; 154 mana regen; 23 mp5; 142 spell crit; 50 spell hit; 599 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10); +10 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 1029 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xlrry ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36zmhc ][ Updated: Fri Sep 28 14:05:59 2007 EST ]]
17:50.59cncfanaticsmy pretbc main, on said dead server
17:51.02cncfanatics!c eu khadgar evolve
17:51.05ThraeBotcncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 13147 HP; 4428 Mana; 81 mana regen; 16127 Armour; 596 AP; 88.100 Melee DPS; 5.65% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 245 +spell dmg/heal; 287 defense; 19.32% dodge; 20.91% block; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 768 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bl7uf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36eekt ][ Updated: Fri Sep 28 14:06:09 2007 EST ]]
17:51.14NeoTronstill
17:51.24NeoTronthe new void reaver is better balanced for the zone
17:51.24Pucmelehm .. pretbc main ... be loladin ?
17:51.30NeoTronneed higher dps now since you have less time dpsing
17:51.32cncfanaticsPucmel, its a bloodelf
17:51.42cncfanaticsposttbc I ment :p
17:51.42Pucmelbe pretbc ...
17:51.44fateoh VR has been buffed?
17:51.45Pucmel:)
17:51.48cncfanaticsthe mage is pretbc
17:51.48fateisnt alar bugged?
17:51.52cncfanaticsgot hotfixed
17:51.53NeoTronal'ar is fixed
17:51.56fateah nice
17:51.58fateoh eu too?
17:52.01NeoTronVR shoots more and/or faster bolts
17:52.02cncfanaticsthink so yea
17:52.07fateyay
17:52.13Vires!c us Terenas Daemonx
17:52.15ThraeBotVires: Daemonx, Level 70 Undead Warlock (19/0/42). 7260 HP; 7870 Mana; 114 mana regen; 202 spell crit; 65 spell hit; 546 +spell dmg; 179 frost dmg (725); 179 shadow dmg (725); 4.28% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 876 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq2aup ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32gt57 ][ Updated: Fri Sep 28 14:07:20 2007 EST ]]
17:52.22Vires^^ was my main pre-TBC
17:52.32*** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl)
17:52.37NeoTronfate: so doing the math, even with 4 piece tier 5, corruption is not worth doing
17:52.44*** join/#wowace trill (i=none@3103ds1-vg.0.fullrate.dk)
17:52.44*** join/#wowace sYn-Zilch (i=fuz007@c-68-52-119-203.hsd1.tn.comcast.net)
17:52.48NeoTronand if it is, it's so close a random lucky crit will make it worse
17:52.56NeoTrononly exception being when you only have 2 secs to cast
17:54.12Dustwhisper!c eu Alonsus Whinewhisper
17:54.15ThraeBotDustwhisper: Whinewhisper, Level 70 Undead Mage (10/48/3). 6433 HP; 7706 Mana; 148 mana regen; 4 mp5; 289 spell crit; 158 spell hit; 992 +spell dmg/heal; 50 arcane dmg (1042); 99 fire dmg (1091); 5.18% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 938 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/224wk5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bjhrk ][ Updated: Fri Sep 28 14:09:19 2007 EST ]]
17:54.48*** join/#wowace Harruee (n=harald0@p5089CF15.dip.t-dialin.net)
17:55.08*** join/#wowace Mudkipz (n=Yumm@66-215-38-143.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com)
17:55.43Silviu-NeoTron at me is worth since i skilled it ;p and i`m affli and i have 5/5 t5 :)
17:55.47CIA-2203funkydude * r50169 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: Shuffle credits a bit, add Pettigrow, Gamefaq & Daemona for generally being awesome, full credits are always on the wiki.
17:57.07ViresDustwhisper: You still using Rag's neck?
17:57.28*** join/#wowace RaydenUni (i=bozartmp@bozarth1.rit.edu)
17:57.39NeoTronSilviu-: right
17:57.45NeoTronit's really nice if you have instant corruption
17:57.51Mudkipzo/
17:58.02Silviu-And skilled for more dmg too ;p
17:58.02NeoTrongut I respeced out of that (felguard) due to wanting to be more effective on kael'thas
17:58.10Dustwhisperyes vires
17:58.24Dustwhisperi cba going karazhan just to try and get adornment of stolen souls
17:58.27Dustwhisperand we havent killed KT yet
17:58.31Dustwhisperso cant et neck there nor bt trash
17:58.34NeoTronbut with the bonus my corruption is quite similar to an aff locks' without the bonus
17:58.35Dustwhisperi have the moroes neck but it has +hit
17:58.38Dustwhisperand i already have to much hit
17:58.49Vireslol
17:58.58Zarielwhat does !Scrooge doo o.0
17:59.09ViresHides the Donate buttons
17:59.12Mudkipzanyone a ui artisT?
17:59.16ViresOr in the case of Rock, makes them HUGE
18:00.59*** join/#wowace papyros (n=madlener@IP-213157015168.static.heagmedianet.de)
18:02.02*** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x57346839.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
18:03.45Zarielarti-ste?
18:04.42Mudkipz¬_¬
18:04.57ViresI tried making textures for use in WoW once... I quickly found out.. I am not good at making textures =/
18:05.25MudkipzI just need to know if grid has a "real" frame
18:05.37Mudkipzbecause eepanels gives me errors everytime I parent a frame to it
18:05.57*** join/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-180-34.pool.tvnet.hu)
18:06.00cncfanaticsa frame name ?
18:06.10cncfanaticstry GetMouseFocus():GetName()
18:06.15MudkipzI used GridLayoutFrame
18:06.28*** join/#wowace Adys_ (i=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-19-193.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr)
18:06.40MudkipzI don't know if it's something with acehook because I'm not sure if it's loaded or not
18:07.04ViresGridFrame?
18:07.46Mudkipzthe scripts guide says I needed to have acehook loaded for the auto-resize panels to worko
18:07.49Mudkipzwork*
18:07.53ViresAppears to be dynamically created; code references GridFrame though, or use cncfanatics' script to find the exact one.
18:08.11MudkipzI'll try GridFrame
18:08.12Mudkipzbrb
18:09.04*** join/#wowace Bver__ (n=chatzill@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com)
18:10.03CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r50170 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu_VisitTrainer.lua:
18:10.03CIA-22FuBar_TrainerFu: Changed how spells/skills/recipes is saved to avoid already
18:10.03CIA-22stored values being nilled out (because WoW API suck and does not return
18:10.03CIA-22information like level requirement when it is already learned). This should
18:10.03CIA-22hopefully fix problems if you have multiple characters of the same class or same
18:10.04CIA-22professions.
18:11.30Harrueeis someone here kind enough to help an european player out and post something in a thread in the US UI forums?
18:11.53*** join/#wowace tardmrr__ (n=tardmrr@68.225.103.101)
18:12.16*** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@81-179-128-189.dsl.pipex.com)
18:14.01kenlyricit's criminal for level 66 mobs to drop runecloth.
18:14.03*** join/#wowace mandrill (i=sintflut@dslb-088-076-251-110.pools.arcor-ip.net)
18:16.27*** join/#wowace Mullien (n=Mullien@67.189.33.6)
18:17.38MullienhyperChipmunk, are you watching the channel?
18:17.43_dreamssno its sparta!
18:17.48*** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-137-156-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
18:17.51MullienO_o
18:18.38Mudkipzyeah the frame popping up from the script is GridLayoutFrame
18:19.09*** mode/#wowace [+o Moonwolf] by ChanServ
18:20.20xyuIs the Blessings deck worth 1000g you think?  i kind of want it but decks are kind of impossible to "Farm"
18:20.25hyperChipmunkMullien: what's up
18:20.38MullienPM
18:21.00hyperChipmunki don't have any; you need to register with nickserv to send pms
18:21.09MullienDo you have a suggestions page somewhere for your addons (Specifically BulkMail2 / BulkMail2_Inbox?
18:21.35hyperChipmunkno, but i have an irc channel =)
18:21.41Mullienhehehe
18:21.48hyperChipmunkspit 'em out
18:22.03*** join/#wowace Chaoslux (i=Shana_3@ppp70.39-205-205.netc.net)
18:22.14hyperChipmunkor code 'em up and submit a patch
18:22.40Dustwhisperanyone killed KT post 2.2 ?
18:22.48Dustwhisperis the weapons in p2->p3 bugged ?
18:23.13MullienThere was something in Gmail (which I believe you wrote as well), that enabled Alt-Clicking of items away from the Mailbox. So Alt-Click would deposit stuff in trade windows, open trades, etc... Is that something that can be reintegrated to BulkMail2
18:23.21*** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl)
18:23.36kenlyricuh
18:23.42hyperChipmunkthat has nothing at all to do with mail
18:23.47hyperChipmunkuse AltClickToAddItem
18:23.48kenlyricaltclicktoadd is the addon you want
18:23.58kenlyricyes, what he said.
18:24.01MullienExcellent, that's just as good
18:24.10LetheKaiSorry, I don't think anyone answered me earlier - alt-rightclick dragging doesn't seem to be working for KC Mobility.  Does anyone know how to get it to work?
18:24.22kenlyricno, that's batter.
18:24.26kenlyric*better
18:24.30CheadsI noticed that when I have the auction window open... and I shift+left click.. then I don't get the box up to seperate a stack of items
18:24.33Fisker-oh u
18:24.38MullienDon't know how I missed that one on the files page.
18:24.41MullienThanks!
18:24.42*** join/#wowace Nick2 (n=nick@cpe-75-187-167-7.neo.res.rr.com)
18:24.43kenlyricsince alt-clicking in trade windows h as nothing to do with mail :)
18:24.50hyperChipmunkyea
18:25.08kenlyrichyperChipmunk: good, now make bulkmail not choke on Gold.
18:25.09hyperChipmunki tend to stab people in the face for suggesting non-mail features into bulkmail
18:25.15hyperChipmunkyou have been warned
18:25.18Mullien<PROTECTED>
18:25.19hyperChipmunki fixed that months ago
18:25.23kenlyriclies
18:25.44MullienWhat suggestion?? I didn't make a suggestion....
18:25.50kenlyricnext time I get the three page error message in my chatbox I'll flood you with it to defy your lies.
18:26.07kenlyricafk in a room full of ogres = bad
18:26.18*** join/#wowace Vangual (n=bah@84-72-114-69.dclient.hispeed.ch)
18:26.37hyperChipmunkr46216 | hyperactiveChipmunk | 2007-08-10 15:40:04 -0400 (Fri, 10 Aug 2007) | 3 lines
18:26.39LetheKaiBlargh.
18:26.44hyperChipmunkBulkMail2Inbox:
18:26.44hyperChipmunk- fixed Take Cash, srsly and furreal
18:26.58Amadeofurreal yo
18:27.04*** part/#wowace Mullien (n=Mullien@67.189.33.6)
18:27.21LetheKaiIs there another mod to move basic/default Blizzard windows? The roll-for-items windows pop up right over my party health bars, and since I'm often healing that's bad.
18:27.43Matrix110FluidFrames/Visor
18:27.47kenlyricmaybe the error comes from something else.
18:27.49Matrix110Visor2 i mean
18:27.59ViresLetheKai: Just hit Need, I'm sure your party won't mind you needing that plate helmet.
18:28.01AmadeoDo damage meters pick up pet damage from Hunters and such?
18:28.05*** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com)
18:28.06LetheKaiI thought I remember Visor doing something like that, but doesn't say so on the Ace2 brief descrip. anymore so I wasn't sure.
18:28.13ViresAmadeo: usually
18:28.20LetheKaiVires: I'm a tank-spec paladin, they better damn well not! ;)
18:28.44Vires=p
18:28.47LetheKaiMatrix: Thanks, I'll look for those.
18:29.15AmadeoVires: I was in a Ramparts group on my Rogue, but my girlfriends BM Hunter was showing up as last in damage on the Priests damage meters...so I dunno if she's just not playing well or if it's not picking up the pet
18:29.27*** join/#wowace Ackis (n=blah@S0106000ea64881e9.ed.shawcable.net)
18:29.33*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)
18:29.33ViresWas it merging the pet?
18:29.40ViresIf not, he might have had pet display off.
18:29.43ViresWhich meter was it?
18:29.43KarlThePaganLetheKai, I use xloot
18:29.45AmadeoNo idea
18:29.54AmadeoI've been wanting to get one though so I can see for myself, I've never really used em before
18:30.05Amadeowhat's a good one?
18:30.27ViresSW Stats has the option to merge... DamageMeters, I have no idea.. haven't used it since pre-TBC. Violation, dunno. Recount, uh... I don't think it merges.
18:30.39Azuremhm... can anyone confirm that the FuBar_DurabilityFu percent display is broken?
18:30.44ViresRecount if you like graphs.
18:30.45*** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)
18:30.53AmadeoI just want something light that gets the job done
18:30.56KarlThePaganAzure, it doesn't update unless you go to a vendor
18:31.09KarlThePaganthat's what i've seen
18:31.12ViresSW Stats is a good one if you don't need that. Ace alternatives would be Recount and Violation.
18:31.25*** join/#wowace gnorlish (n=jaydee@cpe-76-170-71-236.socal.res.rr.com)
18:31.42ViresRecount has huge amounts of detail.. like will tell you how many times you used an ability on a fight.. average damage for it, etc
18:32.12Dustwhisperanyone killed KT post 2.2 ?
18:32.43ViresDustwhisper: Ask Miyari in #wowhead
18:32.56LetheKaiKarl: What's that do, just move the various loot frames?
18:33.00AmadeoI didn't know they went into so much detail
18:33.23KarlThePaganLetheKai, it actually does... a lot... but you can probably disable what you don't need
18:33.33ViresDustwhisper: Nevermind, Miyari is sleeping -.- Think her guild killed thru Illidan though, so I'd assume they killed KT.
18:33.45KarlThePagannew loot skin frames, new roll frames, loot announcing (automatic and manual)
18:33.57KarlThePagan*new loot frame skins
18:34.05*** join/#wowace Ani| (i=ani@86.56.51.7)
18:34.10KarlThePaganbut the roll fame is movable and nice & compact
18:34.10ViresShiny loot boxes =p
18:34.11*** join/#wowace Heavy_ (n=chatzill@c-d464e255.176-7-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
18:34.20LetheKaiOoh I see, thanks! I'll try it.  Hope the frames are simple.
18:34.27KarlThePaganthe config is kinda old
18:34.43Dustwhisperi just want to hear if KT is bugged now
18:34.45Dustwhisperlike some are reporting
18:34.46Heavy_What is the trick to using Cartographer_Import?
18:34.47KarlThePaganit's not waterfall style and slightly clunky... but mostly smooth
18:35.16LetheKaiBTW is there anything that works like Skinner does, to reskin all of the basic UI windows to something cleaner? Skinner was bugging out on me when I tried it a month or so ago so I deleted it.
18:35.40AmadeoOmen is a threat addon, right?
18:35.46KarlThePaganAmadeo, yup
18:35.47LetheKaiYah Amadeo.
18:35.50irandamayI dunno, I just use Skinner :)
18:35.55AmadeoI'm finally starting to do some instances and stuff :P
18:36.02Azurea GUI for Threat-1.0 to be exact
18:36.28LetheKaiHmm.  It was showing frames the wrong size and randomly putting dark grey text over a dark grey background last I used it, irandamay.
18:36.29Amadeodo you guys usually extend your combat log range? I'm wondering if it will make things worse for PvP
18:36.39Viresckknight: Why are all the descriptions to your mods "<type> of awesomeness. <Animal sound>. It'll <Animal action> your <etc>" ?
18:36.44Bendo|he wasn't bugged when my guild tried him yesterday Dustwhisper
18:36.48LetheKailol Vires
18:36.50Viresckknight: Not that they aren't....
18:37.00Dustwhisperare you sure? Im hearing that the weapons that survive p2 get healed up in p3
18:37.09irandamayI don't know... I have been using it since it was oSkin and I have not had any problems with it, other than the occasional out of date skin that is usually quickly updated
18:37.23LetheKaiOkay, thanks irandamay.
18:37.23ckknightVires: because it's awesome. Clearly you can't handle the awesomeness
18:37.25Bendo|well I dunno about that, we usually kill weapons before p3 starts ;)
18:37.46ckknightcryogen: Reset should probably have a confirm in that case.
18:38.36Dustwhisperaoe or singletarget
18:39.28*** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
18:39.43*** join/#wowace sztanpet (n=sztanpet@84.236.88.142)
18:39.47Bendo|aoe
18:39.52sztanpethi there
18:40.14Bendo|that'd be a sucky bug, but I thought they'd fixed most bugs by now
18:40.19Bendo|al'ar was certainly fine
18:40.29*** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanmor@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
18:41.53Nick2Anyone know of an addon that will create a secondary ignore list which will allow you to write a note on why a person is ignored and if they whisper you it will filter it and whisper them back with something like 'You are being ignored.' since it's not the actual ignore list?
18:41.55LetheKaiHere's yet another dumb question: Does Omen only show others' threat if they have Omen themselves, like KTM?
18:42.08KarlThePaganno it works with ktm
18:42.11Ackishmmm... can someone point me at an add-on (other than rock/waterfall) that uses the expand type configuration or display? just trying to find simple snippets of code
18:42.13ViresIt reads KTM data too
18:42.17KarlThePaganand can broadcast to ktm
18:42.35LukianNick2, just use AuldLangSyne and put them on your friends or ignore list
18:42.42HjalteLetheKai: But if others have Omen, it will show their threat just like KTM does with other KTM users.
18:42.42LetheKaiSo Omen is Omen + KTM, and you don't need KTM?
18:42.44kenlyricit also release a fragrant aroma to KTM
18:42.45Nick2Okay, thanks
18:42.49LetheKailol Ken.
18:43.18*** join/#wowace alcohol (n=stfu@unaffiliated/paperclip)
18:43.25AeyanAckis: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7324-OptionHouse.html
18:43.28AeyanSomething like that?
18:43.33LetheKaiI like KTM, not sure if I should switch.
18:43.39hyperChipmunk...
18:43.45LetheKaiYes yes Chipmunk.
18:44.02hyperChipmunkyou sadden all sane people everywhere
18:44.07LetheKaiHaha.
18:44.08NightHawkTheSaneindeed!
18:44.15Stanzilla2ckknight: are u busy?
18:44.18hyperChipmunkshush, you're not sane
18:44.26hyperChipmunkyou're diminishing the point i'm trying to make
18:44.27ckknightyes, Stanzilla2
18:44.28LetheKaiI'm not a modder, what's wrong with it? Is it inaccurate? Only problem I've had is regarding pets.
18:44.31NightHawkTheSaneyes i am. otherwise it wouldn't be "the sane"
18:44.33*** join/#wowace Ani| (i=ani@86.56.51.7)
18:44.42AeyanMain advantages of Omen/Threat-1.0 over KTM is performance gain and per-mob threat
18:44.43LukianLetheKai, it doesn't support multiple targets
18:44.50ViresKTM makes your CPU soup.
18:44.50Stanzilla2ckknight: kk
18:44.59LetheKaiMy CPU doesn't seem to mind it, haha.
18:45.02Ackisaeyan: nope.. I'm trying to figure out how to get something that has a + where you click on it and it expands...
18:45.03hyperChipmunkit does
18:45.06hyperChipmunktrust me, it does
18:45.11AeyanAh
18:45.15hyperChipmunkit hates you inside for using it
18:45.19ViresIt just can't express it without making you really mad.
18:45.24LetheKailol
18:45.33AntiarcLetheKai: You can run Omen and KTM side-be-side if you wish
18:45.49LetheKaiHow's Omen look? Is it as nice and simple as KTM?
18:45.56AntiarcEven more so, IMO :)
18:45.57hyperChipmunktias
18:45.58sztanpetmiles better
18:46.02AntiarcIt's extremely customizable
18:46.12LetheKaiUh oh.
18:46.15AntiarcYou can adjust most every size, font-and color to your liking.
18:46.25hyperChipmunkand texture
18:46.28Fisker-Antiarc
18:46.32Fisker-what did you do with xloot? :I
18:46.35CIA-2203nevcairiel 07Alpha * r50171 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua tests/AceDB-3.0-defaults.lua):
18:46.35CIA-22Ace3 - AceDB-3.0
18:46.35CIA-22- rewrote removeDefaults, and added tests for that
18:46.39LetheKaiI spend like 3 days straight every time I come back to WoW "designing" my interface.  -_- Customizable mods are dangerous for me.
18:46.49AntiarcFisker-: The only thing I did was fix a non-existant callback
18:46.52NightHawkTheSanethe defaults are good as well. :P
18:46.57Fisker-didn't you fix all the stuff?
18:46.58LetheKaiHaha.
18:47.05AntiarcFisker-: Just the last bit
18:47.06NightHawkTheSanei havn't changed anything on my omen, mostly because i'm lazy, and it looks fine
18:47.11AntiarcSomeone else made a couple of other fixes
18:47.11hyperChipmunkwell, the default is great
18:47.24AntiarcOmen comes bundled with a few default skins, too
18:47.26LetheKaiOh hey, Antiarc made it.  Hi Antiarc.
18:47.31hyperChipmunkyea, i haven't changed anything except matching the textures to the rest of my interface and recoloring my pet
18:47.32AntiarcHehe. Hey. :)
18:47.37AntiarcSo you can switch between looks with one click
18:47.40cryogenckknight: i really wish it did :)
18:47.47hyperChipmunkanso
18:47.48LetheKaiI <3 mod-makers, I don't know how you guys can keep up with your mods year after year.
18:47.50hyperChipmunkalso*
18:47.56hyperChipmunkkenco pisses ppl off
18:48.00hyperChipmunkand antiarc is nice
18:48.06AntiarchyperChipmunk: Lies.
18:48.10AntiarcI am mean and growly.
18:48.11Fisker-http://i24.tinypic.com/fwu9fp.jpg :o Antiarc
18:48.11hyperChipmunkl2maths
18:48.12AntiarcGrrr.
18:48.13ckknightAntiarc's a meanie
18:48.16cryogenckknight: (thats not your fault though)
18:48.20irandamayI use SurfaceControl to change all my textures to the same things, but now some mods aren't using it (not just Rock mods, something else that I've forgotten now stopped listening to it)
18:48.21hyperChipmunkomg l2program!
18:48.22AntiarcFisker-: Didn't do it
18:48.26Fisker-:(
18:48.31AntiarcFisker-: I just changed it so you can actually loot things in XLoot
18:48.37LetheKai=o Your UI is big and black Fisker!
18:48.47dylanmhyperChipmunk: A lot of good programmers are jackasses.
18:49.20NightHawkTheSaneA lot of -people- are jackasses.
18:49.27Heavy_What is the trick to using Cartographer_Import?
18:49.30hyperChipmunkyea, but you only get a pass on that if you ARE a good programmer
18:49.37hyperChipmunkkenco is clearly not
18:49.37KarlThePaganlike AC ;)
18:49.46NightHawkTheSanei find smart people are jackasses because there's so many idiots, and stupid people are jackasses because they ARE idiots.
18:50.01LetheKaiThis was my UI right before the 2.2 bomb hit: http://www.chronalis.com/images/lethe/super-ui.jpg - things are all shifted around a little now and I'm changing some mods due to your guys' recommendations, hehe.
18:50.26AeyanI like transparency, hehe
18:50.37KarlThePagani just had to adjust my UI scale and my UI is within a few pixels of it's pre-2.2 state
18:50.47*** part/#wowace toronar (n=toronar@nerv.toronar.de)
18:50.48woden~wau
18:50.48purli guess wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside.
18:51.04*** join/#wowace toronar (n=toronar@nerv.toronar.de)
18:51.07LetheKaiBut a few pixels bothers me Karl, being anal retentive.  =(
18:51.07NightHawkTheSaneI didn't change anything, and my UI didn't really have any problems in 2.2 *shrug*
18:51.16Lukiansame ;D
18:51.17_ranehow does one specify where Items window opens on the screen?
18:51.29AeyanI had to turn on UI Scale and knock it down to .9 to get mine to look right
18:51.42LetheKaiWow, I had to move mine about halfway down.
18:51.54AeyanYeah, but I only run at 1280x1024
18:52.29AeyanI like the color scheme, by the way, LetheKai
18:52.47LetheKaiThanks!
18:52.56LetheKaiIt's all thanks to these sexy modders, in here.
18:53.00ViresI need to find better textures >.<
18:53.22LetheKaiI've been interested in modding, myself, but I'm only able to do very basic things and art.  And people in WoW don't want pretty UIs, they want very simple, clean UIs.
18:53.45toronarantiarc: do you know about the problem with Omen on macs where it crashes wow?
18:53.53ViresLetheKai: Depends on preference. Some people load it up with Artwork, others go minimalist
18:54.01dylanmtoronar: I'm on a Mac and I've never experienced such a thing.
18:54.13Antiarctoronar: Err, no, you're the first person I've had tell me about it
18:54.17kenlyricthis deserves a link to the hello kitty UI
18:54.27LetheKaiVires: Seems like the package UIs I see with elaborate graphics have VERY LOW download rates, hee.
18:54.28kenlyricbut I don't seem to have one.
18:54.30LetheKailol Ken
18:54.31dylanmAnd few people get the balance right... I like artistic touches but the people who can really make things like that usually go overboard.
18:54.55toronarthere is a thread on the mac forum about it: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778517681&sid=1&pageNo=1
18:54.57MrUsefulURL: WoW Forums -> Non-fatal Assertion Failed
18:54.59*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ
18:55.02Lukianhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html
18:55.04LukianI do
18:55.20dylanmtoronar: Interesting that they posted it there rather than talking to, I dunno... the developers?
18:55.21LetheKaiIf I didn't think all the coding would give me a lethal headache, I'd try my hand.  =\ I've made a couple of websites before, but my then-fiance did all the coding for me.
18:55.32LetheKaiTHANKS Lukian.
18:55.41Ackislmao there's an atlas update and i got all excited... I downloaded it, then read the change log... Toc updated... God I hate patch weeks
18:56.00toronardylanm: well I just experienced the crashes myself yesterday and found the thread already there
18:56.04dylanmGotta be done for the fools that can't be bothered to look at that screen.
18:56.12dylanmtoronar: Oh I'm not blaming _you_. You're actually here :)
18:56.44toronardylanm: is there anything I can do to help?
18:57.27NightHawkTheSanedylanm: to be fair, it was posted there because the crash log does not clearly indicate omen, or any mod, as the cause of it.
18:57.29ViresLetheKai: HTML != Coding =p
18:57.36LetheKaiDoes Archarodim ever come around here?
18:57.42_ranehow does one specify where Items window opens on the screen when looting?
18:57.44*** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=chatzill@host-83-166-25-145.serva.net)
18:57.47toronarfrom what I experienced, the crash happens right when I switch targets, and certainly when I am in a raid
18:57.47LetheKaiVires: It wasn't just html.  ;)
18:57.50NightHawkTheSanedylanm: only after some discussion and comparison of mods being used was the conclusion that it was omen reached. (wow that sentance sucked)
18:58.00*** join/#wowace doktoreas (n=geko@host40-186-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
18:58.08NightHawkTheSaneThat said, now that I see the crash log, I've been getting that too the last couple days.
18:58.27NightHawkTheSanewhich does coincide with me bothering to run omen..
18:59.07ViresNeed more people on this server with Rock so I can spy on their talents =D
18:59.27LetheKaiI can't remember all he did now... Some flash, err maybe some java stuff (I'm ignorant, might be javascript? lol), and he had the damndest time finding a webhost for our guild website that had a cgi bin for him to use.  But he uses totally different methods now... All I know is he's damn advanced.
19:00.12*** join/#wowace charon_ (n=charon@77-56-85-248.dclient.hispeed.ch)
19:01.13LetheKaiAll I did was the Photoshop.  -_-
19:01.26Virescgi? eww....
19:01.34ViresPHP ftw. (in before flames)
19:01.44Dustwhisperok this is a really weird bug ive been having lately
19:01.46Dustwhisperhotkeys just stop working
19:02.03Dustwhisperlike space = jump for me and counterspell is shift+space
19:02.08*** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7)
19:02.09Dustwhispersuddenly space equals shift+space
19:02.16NightHawkTheSaneVires: php and cgi are not mutually exclusive.
19:02.23ViresTrue enough
19:02.26dylanmVires: Apples and oranges, there.
19:02.29Viresphp-cgi, etc
19:02.31hyperChipmunksmack your shiftkey a few times; it gets stuck now
19:02.42NightHawkTheSanedylanm: i would say apples and trucks, myself. :P
19:03.03hyperChipmunkit happens to me when i move my focus to my other desktop with the shift key down
19:03.05LetheKai|Awaylol
19:03.09hyperChipmunkit never gets the shift-up event
19:03.12dylanmApples and mechanical yetis, imo
19:03.14ViresI'm debating if I should spend time learning perl. Or Lisp. Or not.
19:03.23dylanmIt's worthwhile. Doesn't take long.
19:03.27NightHawkTheSanedude, i've still got my mechanical yeti with 3 charges. >.>
19:03.28ViresASP? Haha...hah...heh
19:03.30hyperChipmunki just hold down shift and move my mouse back into the wow window and release it
19:03.34dylanmI love both languages for their quirks.
19:03.41dylanmlisp for its lack of quirks, really.
19:03.47NightHawkTheSaneVires: learn perl. you'll never forgive yourself if you don't. :P
19:03.53_dreamsslol
19:04.03ViresWhy? I don't need to forgive myself as it is now.
19:04.46NightHawkTheSanebecause it's an absurdly useful language.
19:05.02ViresPython? Coldfusion? A scripting language for each headache you'll ever have.. whee...
19:05.03hyperChipmunkyou need to learn perl because you'll never figure out what a program written in it does, otherwise
19:05.04dylanmYou can get along without it. But it's pretty fun if you want to do anything with text.
19:05.12LetheKai|Awaylol
19:05.21dylanmAnd yeah it's one of the most idiomatic languages I can think of.
19:05.23*** join/#wowace podge (n=podge@83.141.125.208)
19:05.51dylanmperl is Larry Wall and Larry Wall is lovably psychotic
19:05.53Juggernauti'm looking for a mod that will auto switch weapons sets on stance dance and also allow me to switch weapons with a macro
19:05.59Juggernautstancesets isn't working since the patch
19:06.04Juggernautanyone know of another?
19:06.21ViresJuggernaut: /equipslot ... etc? lol
19:06.22charontanked onyxia the first time ever \o/ ... all 3 others died once to "reset" aggro and omen was showing weird numbers all the time
19:06.35NightHawkTheSanehttp://wowwiki.com/Macros
19:06.43ViresGet Closetgnome and make a set for those weapons, then use /script ClosetGnome:Wear("setname")
19:06.54dylanmMore people need to do Onyxia so I can get that buff when I'm in Org.
19:06.56Juggernautit's not the macro code
19:07.00Juggernauti need a mod too
19:07.06Juggernautthe old macro was just /stancesets next
19:07.23LetheKailol Dylanm.
19:07.36dylanmAnd AV like crazy
19:08.06NightHawkTheSaneyou can change stances and swap weapons all in a macro
19:08.31LetheKaiDo you guys like ClosetGnome better than ItemRack?
19:08.32CIA-2203antiarc * r50172 10Omen/OmenDisplay.lua: Omen: ClearAllPoints for bars that get hidden in addition to those that get repositioned; possible problems with invalid anchoring chains otherwise.
19:08.45cncfanaticsaaah antiarc got that prob too :o
19:08.52Juggernautk i'll have a look nighthawk
19:08.53cncfanaticsthey changed anchor stuff in 2.2 that made me have to use clearpoints too :p
19:08.53Juggernautty
19:09.14NightHawkTheSaneLetheKai: I like itemrack because of the slot/set buttons, a la trinketmenu
19:09.29MudkipzI second that
19:10.00KarlThePaganLetheKai, CG is really simple and I've gotten used to it
19:10.12KarlThePaganit's been thru a lot of updates without problems
19:10.13NightHawkTheSanei also prefer item rack where i can view/edit a set without actually having to wear it.
19:10.27*** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (i=bozartmp@bozarth1.rit.edu)
19:10.40AeyanYeah, I use Itemrack 2.1 for the trinketmenu stuff too
19:10.41CIA-2203funkydude * r50173 10BossWhisperer2/: remove BossWhisperer 2, use the standard one
19:10.42LetheKaiI see.  Thanks guys.
19:10.59KarlThePaganyea, there are a few hiccups sometimes if you're switching items to different positions with CG
19:11.17phyberso, anyone who farms Archimonde, how do you make it less luck based?  at the moment, he couldn't be anyworse if they gave him random Infernals.
19:11.37cncfanaticsu can actualy stance-dance the fear now, decent cast time
19:11.48*** join/#wowace Rayden (i=bozartmp@cl1-79.it.rit.edu)
19:11.51phyberyou get crap like Air Burst + firespawn under you.
19:12.12cncfanaticsthink the also limited the combinations he could do
19:12.21Eggithe best thing is to play safe
19:12.25cncfanaticsI bet they did it so all his abilities trigger a short cooldown on the others
19:12.25phyberyeah, he can't grip you in the air now.
19:12.30LetheKaiI haven't made it to Archimonde yet, must be exciting.  Until you wipe to random shit.  That's pretty frustrating.
19:13.00Eggia few second before the 40 sec min fear timer runs out... go away as far as possible... only a mt healers should stay
19:13.12Eggi-min
19:13.14CIA-2203funkydude * r50174 10Buffalo/ (Buffalo.toc embeds.xml): Buffalo: Use embeds.xml
19:14.51cncfanaticsweee, fb lives again :)
19:15.11Eggiand everyone in the raid should have purification pots... makes it much easier if no decurser is in range
19:16.06*** join/#wowace Pazza (n=john@toffice.expresstaxrefund.com)
19:16.42AckisAceGUI == Earth?
19:16.53CIA-2203ckknight * r50175 10Ace2/Ace2.toc: Ace2 - remove an errant line.
19:16.55cncfanaticswaterfall is the ace gui
19:17.23AckisEarth is a library for building gui's on your add-on, waterfall is just a type of configuration window correct?
19:17.48Eggiphyber: you can also control it a bit where you land if you use your tear a bit earlier or later
19:18.37*** join/#wowace Ani (n=ani@86.56.51.7)
19:18.42AmadeoWhen does Captain Planet come out?
19:18.58Antiarcof what, the closet?
19:19.01Amadeohaha
19:19.04PazzaI have a question about variables and tables. If A is a table and I set B = A, is a copy of the table made or is B a pointer to A meaning if I change A will B also change?
19:19.11AntiarcB is a pointer
19:19.19PazzaThanks
19:19.19AmadeoJust thinking of Earth, Water(fall), etc :P
19:19.44Ackislol
19:20.07AmadeoI need a good name for a Tauren Druid
19:20.18Stanzilla2Tjoala
19:20.30Amadeowhat's that mean?
19:20.34Ackison a side note, I found a good screenie of what I kinda want to do: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Earth_tutorial_2.jpg the whole collapse thingies = cool
19:20.38AntiarcI use baby name sites to find names for my characters. <_<
19:20.39charonPazza: A wasn't really a table in the first place, just a name (reference) for an object that is a table, meaning B becomes another name (reference) for the same
19:20.53Stanzilla2Amadeo: it's a name
19:20.56AmadeoAntiarc: haha
19:20.57Stanzilla2Antiarc: lol :D
19:21.05Antiarccharon: Ssh. I'm trying to keep it simple :P
19:21.08*** join/#wowace syrae (n=syrae@ollie.opsware.com)
19:21.23*** join/#wowace Keias (i=HydraIRC@c-69-245-192-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net)
19:21.28AmadeoI was going to use a vampire name from the two Druids in the Vampire Chronicles, but they're always taken :P
19:21.47charonAntiarc: don't lie, even if the truth hurts ;)
19:22.40AmadeoAntiarc's buying me a Dell XPS M1730
19:23.18ViresAmadeo: Defeat? Haha
19:23.25AntiarcAmadeo: With all the money I make from my modding, right? :V
19:23.31AmadeoYeah! Donation links!
19:23.40AmadeoVires: lol
19:24.04ViresI have a low level druid alt named Defeat... low level priest alt named Sent
19:24.06AmadeoI like to go to prefab sites and see how expensive I can make a system, without adding monitors and stuff
19:24.19*** join/#wowace Bver___ (n=chatzill@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com)
19:25.42Amadeoif you deck one of these Dell's out, you can get it up to $7000+
19:25.44Amadeohaha
19:26.19LetheKai|MiningThe "Warning" in Omen is when your threat is on top? Or what?
19:26.27CIA-2203ackis * r50176 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc):
19:26.27CIA-22AckisRecipeList:
19:26.27CIA-22- Added some more gui stuff
19:26.30*** join/#wowace xylch (n=xylch@cpe-065-191-044-080.nc.res.rr.com)
19:26.56CIA-2203starinnia * r50177 10SimpleMD/ (SimpleMD.lua license.txt):
19:26.56CIA-22SimpleMD:
19:26.56CIA-22- Can't read apparently, wrong license was included before, now corrected
19:27.01LetheKai|MiningHehe Amadeo, mine's a M1710.  You'd win!
19:27.45kenlyricthe arning is when you cross a threshhold.
19:27.57kenlyricThe default is 90%, but you'll probably want to change that.
19:28.03*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)
19:28.13*** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)
19:28.26kenlyric*warning
19:28.48LetheKai|MiningThanks.  =D
19:29.52*** join/#wowace Quator1a (n=ZOAS@c-69-246-217-192.hsd1.in.comcast.net)
19:30.17*** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be)
19:30.56Nick2Does anyone have premade databases for Cartographer quests, trainers, vendors, mining, herbalism, fishing, opening, treasure and/or mailboxes?
19:31.15vithosNick2: Cartographer_Data has herb|mine|treasure
19:31.39Nick2Okay, thanks, thought all came with premade databases xD
19:32.13Nick2I keep getting errors from Cartographer, too
19:32.18Reclusehate when omen flashes my screen when threat is going down if i was already above threshold XD
19:32.33sztanpetdisable it
19:32.43HjalteHmm. I'm not a mathematical genius, so how do i convert the "old" color ratings that the wow color chooser uses to the Pitbull ones? :)
19:33.13Reclusewell, i want to be notified if it's going UP lol
19:34.26*** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7)
19:35.37*** part/#wowace Stanzilla2 (n=bs@p54995618.dip.t-dialin.net)
19:37.12*** join/#wowace Stanzilla2 (n=bs@p54995618.dip.t-dialin.net)
19:38.38CIA-2203aliset * r50178 10/branches/TankPoints/:
19:38.38CIA-22TankPoints:
19:38.38CIA-22- What, you've never branched before? Okay, start on the left foot....
19:39.16CIA-2203aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r50179 10TankPoints/:
19:39.16CIA-22aliset_effective_health:
19:39.16CIA-22- Branch to add an Effective Health pane to TankPoints
19:40.53LetheKai|MiningDon'tcha love being retarded and mining for a bit without realizing your skill is capped? Enjoyable.
19:40.56*** join/#wowace PProvost_ (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost)
19:40.56*** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost_] by ChanServ
19:44.06charonHjalte: what scales are the colors on? usually you can just rescale them
19:44.35CIA-2203xinhuan * r50180 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Add empty socket pattern support from ItemBonusLib.
19:44.50Hjaltecharon, found out myself, you just have to multiply the old values with 2,55
19:45.03charon:)
19:45.11weabanyone have a recommendation for a player notes tracking kinda addon? for example, i do lots of pugs and want to be able to take note of who's a moron and who isn't
19:45.25hyperChipmunklol
19:45.38hyperChipmunki think there's a friendssomethingoranother in the repo
19:45.58syraemost player note addons are appended to the Friend list
19:46.04Hjalteweab, Playrate maybe? Politewhisper (not ace) also has some player tracking, but it will also help you find players to your party.
19:46.26syraeAuldlangsyne is one of the Friend notes ones
19:46.51cncfanaticsomg at wowwiki
19:46.55*** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-137-156-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
19:46.55cncfanaticsMedivh: guardian, mage, WARLOCK
19:47.03cncfanaticsseriously
19:47.10Amadeorofl, owned - http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=106824&view=by_date_ascending&page=2
19:47.36CIA-2203nevcairiel 07Alpha * r50181 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua tests/AceDB-3.0-defaults.lua):
19:47.36CIA-22Ace3 - AceDB-3.0
19:47.36CIA-22- fix for removeDefaults to not remove too much in tables with a [**] field
19:47.36CIA-22- add a test for that case
19:48.01SilowyiWeab: http://playerrating.net/ there's this too.
19:49.38weablooks like more than I need. i basically just want something that can store "playername" = "some note i make up" and can spit it back to me.
19:50.38SilowyiNotepad?
19:50.42SilowyiD:
19:50.45Silowyi:D
19:50.54LetheKai|MiningMy friend uses something that keeps notes on players.  It's just like PlayerNotes or something.  Sorry, I don't know the exact name heh.
19:52.25Silowyiweab: There's also PlayerNotes on the wowace repository
19:53.02weabi'll try a couple of these and report back on my findings!
19:54.11*** join/#wowace Bver___ (n=chatzill@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com)
19:57.33*** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=o@c-6f4ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
19:58.05Fisker-oops
19:59.02kenlyricis it a bug that a quest in nagrand gives ilevel79 rewards?
19:59.13kenlyricthat's lower than hellfire.
20:00.13CodayusWhich quest?
20:01.16*** join/#wowace Bendo| (n=klsdjg@mg050a.studby.ntnu.no)
20:01.27kadrahilheadless horseman? hrm
20:01.41kenlyricmuck diving.
20:02.57kenlyricnow invisible people are killing ogres.
20:03.21*** join/#wowace Guillotine_DC (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
20:03.22*** part/#wowace Stanzilla2 (n=bs@p54995618.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:03.37*** join/#wowace Stanzilla2 (n=bs@p54995618.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:03.42*** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0x535cbb03.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
20:04.58*** join/#wowace cc-work (n=cc-work@cpe-66-65-85-157.nyc.res.rr.com)
20:06.36ag`Fisker-: I will rise from the dead and eat your brains
20:06.56weabAuldLangSyne appears to only be for friends and guild.
20:07.29Fisker-awesome ag`
20:07.32Fisker-looking forward to it
20:07.38weabPlayerNotes however, is the right combination of simple and functional for me.
20:11.18Pazzaanyone know why the patch has caused problems with tooltips? the error: Usage: GameTooltip:SetOwner(frame);
20:12.10IndustrialAn Error Has Occurred!
20:12.11IndustrialSession verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again.
20:12.12nevcairielbecause the API changed, and the addons didnt respect that :P
20:12.16Industrial--^ anoying
20:12.38Industrialon the forum when I press "mark all as read".
20:12.42Industriallogging out and in doesnt help.
20:12.56*** join/#wowace PProvost__ (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost)
20:12.56*** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost__] by ChanServ
20:14.20Pazzawhats the correct usage? to include and anchor?
20:17.46Lukiancan icehud display the fivesecond rule?
20:20.14*** join/#wowace charon_ (n=charon@77-56-85-248.dclient.hispeed.ch)
20:20.21CIA-2203nevcairiel 07Alpha * r50182 10Ace3/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
20:20.22CIA-22Ace3 - AceDB-3.0
20:20.22CIA-22- added a simple handler for PLAYER_LOGOUT to clear all defaults, and adjusted test case for that
20:20.49Nick2I can't get Cartographer r50120 to work, rock is the only thing it adds and the addon isn't really even there.
20:21.21*** join/#wowace PProvost (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost)
20:21.21*** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ
20:22.38sbalar meteor fiexed?
20:22.52Fisker-should've been hotfixed yesterday
20:22.58sbokay
20:23.44*** join/#wowace PProvost_ (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost)
20:23.44*** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost_] by ChanServ
20:24.10Kemayoweab: And ignore.
20:24.24CIA-2203nevcairiel 07Alpha * r50183 10Ace3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Ace3 - cleanups
20:24.27Kemayoweab: Oh, and there's a slashcommand for arbitrary player notes.
20:25.21weabi think playernotes still suits me better
20:26.01ag`how do you unhook something hooked with hooksecurefunc?
20:26.11KemayoYeah, if notes are all you want, ALS is slightly overkill.
20:26.30KemayoNow that I've got it thoroughly modularised, I'm thinking of just splitting it up entirely.
20:27.46*** join/#wowace Lukian (n=wizard@203.171.70.21)
20:29.06Mecdemortwtb events only fired when you join/leave a party/raid
20:29.53CIA-2203ag 07andreasg * r50184 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: No longer uses AceOO (Ace2 libs still does, but you know, Ace3 is coming...)
20:30.22nevcairielag`: you cannot unhook hooksecurefunc, iirc
20:30.29ag`ok
20:30.50Funkeh`ag`: wtb party targets :)
20:30.58ag`it's just that it's needed to detect when the user enables reputation tracking, I think
20:31.05ag`it doesn't do an event
20:31.19*** join/#wowace [Liq] (n=denras19@130.225.247.36)
20:31.50*** join/#wowace Lemming2K (n=winblock@port-83-236-58-123.dynamic.qsc.de)
20:33.06sbhmm
20:33.10sbace3 coming closer?
20:33.21Xinhuanargh, locals inside a do-end block count as part of the 200 locals limit
20:33.51nevcairieldid you actually reach that?
20:33.53*** join/#wowace TheHolyfallout (n=chatzill@71.118.143.246)
20:34.06KemayoMecdemort: RollCall probably has something for that.
20:34.38KemayoNo, wait, rollcall is guild... use Roster.
20:35.03Lemming2Ksomeone here who could help me with the forum registration on wowace.com? i didn't receive the activation mail (yes i checked the spam folder :P)
20:35.19Xinhuanyes i did nevcairiel
20:35.30Xinhuani localized amost every frame/button in my addon
20:35.33Xinhuanand that's about 100 of them
20:35.38nevcairielheh
20:35.49Xinhuangotta have to make some them them globals
20:35.54Xinhuanor throw some in a subtable
20:36.40Xinhuani'm implementing a sort of "hack" to use AceComm without registering it as a mixin
20:37.11XinhuanAceComm.SetCommPrefix(MyAddon, "MyPrefix");
20:37.29XinhuanAceComm.RegisterComm(MyAddon, MyAddon.commPrefix, "WHISPER", "ReceiveMessage");
20:37.40evlWhat's the easiest way to detect when sword specialization procs?
20:37.58XinhuanMyAddon:ReceiveMessage(prefix, sender, distribution, arg1, arg2)
20:38.03Xinhuanand it works lol
20:38.11[DiE]Celebevl; "you gain a extra attack trough sword speccc..." in combat log?
20:38.37evlfrom within Lua pref.
20:38.48Xinhuannevcairiel: would you consider that unorthodox?
20:43.05nevcairielXinhuan: that not-mixin hack? nah, i used it before
20:43.23Xinhuanso its a OK method to use to not include AceAddon-2.0?
20:43.50nevcairielif AceComm doesnt rely on the callback functions like OnEmbedEnabled etc
20:44.09Xinhuanit means i only have to include AceLibrary, AceEvent, AceOO and AceComm
20:44.13Xinhuanand no others
20:44.19Xinhuansince Acecomm uses the first 3
20:44.36Xinhuanhmm i don't think it does
20:44.40Xinhuanrely on those
20:45.10Xinhuanthere's no reason for it to
20:45.12Xinhuani think?
20:45.13nevcairielit has a OnEmbedDisable func
20:45.14ag`I replaced the stuff I used in AceOO with like 7 lines
20:45.17nevcairielto unregister everything
20:45.30ag`too bad the Ace2 libs still use it :)
20:45.35Xinhuani didn't register my addon with AceLibrary of Ace2 in the first place
20:45.43Xinhuans/of/or/
20:46.08Xinhuanso it shouldn't need to use OnEmbedDisable?
20:46.09ckknightXinhuan: instead, do AceComm:embed(MyNamespace)
20:46.11cncfanaticsag` I did the same with FB
20:46.25ckknightthen you can do MyNamespace:SetCommPrefix("MyPrefix")
20:46.25ckknightetc.
20:46.28nevcairielXinhuan: no, unregister the comms, its just for standby so you dont receive messages anymore
20:46.42ag`cncfanatics: yeah... I only use very simple classes/inherit
20:46.44nevcairielnot _that_ important
20:47.00nevcairielag`: mine took 25 lines :(
20:47.04Xinhuanah so registering AceComm as a mixin really is just calling the :embed(target) function?
20:47.32cncfanaticsI use mainly the mixin features
20:47.35evlWhat's the url to the diff thingy for the ui files?
20:47.42cncfanaticstook me ehm, 15ish lines for the code itself
20:47.44nevcairielwdn.wowinterface.com
20:48.15evlty
20:48.30ckknightXinhuan: yea
20:48.56*** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (i=bozartmp@cl1-79.it.rit.edu)
20:49.06*** join/#wowace Bver____ (n=chatzill@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com)
20:49.12Xinhuanhmmm ok that makes sense
20:49.13*** join/#wowace Bendo| (n=klsdjg@mg050a.studby.ntnu.no)
20:49.29Xinhuanat least, i won't have to trawl thru 2000 lines of code to figure that out now ;p
20:49.57Stanzilla2ckknight: Ellipsis yesterday told us that people still needs AceLibrary, why?
20:50.21Recluseis there a vendor value lib ace'd or no?
20:50.54Mech0zAnyone have problems with antagonists potitions after a wow restart? Mine repotitions all the time to my left side so I can't see them
20:50.59ckknightStanzilla2: for?
20:51.01Mech0zand forgets settings
20:51.30Stanzilla2ckknight: dunno. she said she had only pitbull and rock running, nothing else. and then pitbull errord that it needs acelib
20:51.43ckknightbecause Threat-1.0 uses AceLibrary
20:52.54Nick2Does Cartographer require anything else installed like rock or Ace2 libraries?
20:53.08ckknightit comes with those libraries
20:53.57Nick2Okay, I'm trying to get Cartographer to work but the only thing I'm seeing new is rock which really doesn't have anything in it.
20:54.49Nick2I can get r47090 to work but not r50120.1
20:54.49Stanzilla2ckknight: ...btw Cartographer Instance Maps is not working..it shows only a blank map of the area i'm in
20:56.00ag`http://laist.com/2007/09/22/yes_this_is_for.php
20:56.34*** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
20:58.44*** join/#wowace Mire (n=Mire@huntersrun-cm-195.usa2net.net)
20:58.49*** join/#wowace Viserion (n=Viserion@dial-69-55-136-44.sofnet.net)
21:00.32*** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net)
21:01.31HjalteWho was asking for an addon to rate players earlier?
21:01.52Nick2Any ideas how to fix this?  I can get r47090 to work but not r50120.1  on 50120.1 the only thing I'm seeing new is rock which really doesn't have anything in it.  And even with 47090 I get errors popping up and the text in the tooltip is flashing.
21:03.20LetheKai|MiningI think I have too many mods.  I zone really fast when in-game, but it takes like 3 minutes to load up on first login, lol.
21:04.13sztanpetthats normal
21:04.26Hjalteweab, what addon did you end up using?
21:04.27AeyanNick2: Cartographer was moved to run off Rock rather than Ace2 after r49074
21:04.29LetheKai|MiningWhen I disable all my mods I load in ~10 - 15 seconds.
21:04.38LetheKai|MiningSo pretty sure it's not.  =D
21:04.45AeyanNick2: If you're having errors, you're probably missing some of it's updated dependencies
21:04.49AeyanJust a guess though
21:05.04Nick2was doing a fresh install
21:05.20Nick2and never saw dependencies
21:05.34sztanpetLetheKai|Mining http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns yes it is
21:05.38weabHjalte: PlayerNotes
21:05.59AeyanIf you installed it with the latest WAU, then I'm not sure what would be causes errors on a fresh install
21:06.17AeyanNot exactly sztanpet =P
21:06.21Nick2WAU?  :s
21:06.22AeyanMore mods means more load time
21:06.23AeyanPeriod
21:06.38sztanpetand who said otherwise
21:07.15AeyanHe said he was running too many mods to have that long of a load time...
21:07.19AeyanSo he probably is
21:07.24HjalteAeyan: What if i remove 1 big addon and replace it with 2 small addons - Will it then also mean more load time? ;)
21:07.44AeyanYou know what I mean, hehe
21:08.00HjalteAeyan: I hope you understand what I mean too... hehe...
21:09.03kadrahilvithos: that arcane shot buff looks neat
21:09.04*** join/#wowace Bver____ (n=chatzill@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com)
21:09.23*** join/#wowace Bendo| (n=klsdjg@mg050a.studby.ntnu.no)
21:09.36AeyanI've got 269 folders in my Addons folder and only have 17.4mb of addon memory taken up on load =)
21:09.56kadrahil...
21:09.58AeyanI'm rather proud of that...
21:10.03LetheKai|MiningHaha.
21:10.03Industrialcongrats, Aeyan, you win the meaningless statistics award.
21:10.06AeyanEven though it shows a disturbing obsession
21:10.11kadrahilum
21:10.13AeyanHell yes I do, Industrial
21:10.19kadrahili get like 30-35mb used with just 20 or so addons
21:10.35IndustrialI get ^)MB just with one, auctioneer, your point?
21:10.37Industrial60*
21:10.53Nick2auctioneer bogs down auctionhouse first load time
21:11.04Nick2not game load time
21:11.10Industrialbrilliant deduction Nick2
21:11.23LetheKai|MiningSomeone's cross.  =x
21:11.24kadrahilIndustrial: shush :)
21:11.53AeyanNo, Industrial is always like that
21:12.04Industrialcause you are always like that.
21:12.09LetheKai|MiningHow do you check how much addon memory's used on load? Or do you just mean how big the addons folder is? Hehe.
21:12.21IndustrialZING
21:12.22Industrial:P
21:12.35kadrahilLetheKai|Mining: i just look at it in performancefu
21:12.41AeyanHehe
21:12.47AeyanYeah, I use performancefu
21:12.58LetheKai|MiningOh hey.
21:13.00kadrahilbut lately i have taken the addon-less approach
21:13.01LetheKai|MiningThanks, haha.
21:13.10kadrahilthe only ones i have installed are bigwigs, omen, and recount :(
21:13.20Hjalteweab, don't you get an error on startup when using playerrating?
21:13.28LetheKai|MiningDo I wanna look at the MiB or KiB number? O.o
21:13.28kadrahiland cartographer, duh
21:13.33weabi haven't tried playerrating
21:13.34Hjalteweab, oh, thats not the one you use
21:13.37*** join/#wowace Tupsi (n=Miranda@pD95F8186.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
21:13.39AeyanI try to cut down on how many I have
21:13.46AeyanObvious failure there
21:13.55*** join/#wowace Monkey_D_Luffy (i=UPP@occm-251.dhcp.grp1-rng2.tnmmrl.infoave.net)
21:13.58kadrahilAeyan: so  you basically just installed every addon?
21:14.06Funkeh`You need to use standalone libraries to get accurate results for memory usage
21:14.08kadrahilminus one of those spaces
21:14.14AeyanNah, they're all got a use
21:14.17Monkey_D_Luffyhey guys
21:14.29Aeyan*they've
21:14.29kadrahilAeyan: how much ram does your machine have?
21:14.38Aeyan1024mb pc3200
21:14.42kadrahilah
21:14.46LetheKai|Mining38.7 MB total addon memory.
21:14.46kadrahilmy macbook pro has 2gb
21:14.48Monkey_D_Luffyoooh
21:14.54Monkey_D_Luffyi didn't know there was a new WAU
21:14.56kadrahilif i use too many addons it starts to run hotter than normal
21:15.12kadrahilwhich is already fairly warm, and the fan is running constantly when wow is loaded
21:15.55kadrahil(2) Duration of Wizard and Mana oils has been increased
21:16.00LetheKai|Mining=D
21:16.04Monkey_D_Luffyoh really?
21:16.08LetheKai|MiningHurrai.
21:16.09kadrahil2.3
21:16.13LetheKai|MiningOh.
21:16.32Monkey_D_Luffyoh
21:18.35Monkey_D_Luffyanyone use fubar?
21:18.46LetheKai|Mining254 folders in my Addons directory... but a lot of them are things that I don't know where they came from.  -_- A LOT from AuctioneerAdvanced I think, and some library thingies... *vague stare*
21:18.57LetheKai|MiningI do, Monkey.
21:19.08Monkey_D_Luffyis yours dead?
21:19.12AeyanA lot of us do, I imagine
21:19.13LetheKai|MiningNo sir.
21:19.14AeyanNot I
21:19.25Monkey_D_Luffyhm, i updated it and now it wont' work
21:19.32LetheKai|MiningIs it all blank?
21:19.36Monkey_D_Luffybug sack is going crazy
21:19.41Mudkipz254 folders...
21:19.45LetheKai|MiningHee.
21:19.48kadrahilO_o
21:19.48Monkey_D_Luffyit's not there at all
21:19.49Mudkipzdid youdownload all the files?
21:20.08AeyanRunning libs disembeded and addons with lots of modules can fill it up fast
21:20.10kadrahilMudkipz: wget -m http://files.wowace.com
21:20.12LetheKai|MiningDo you mean all of those that I have, or all the files on wowace? lol
21:20.12Monkey_D_Luffyi used the auto updater, the seperate fu files are on the minimap now
21:20.14kadrahil~flee
21:20.14purlACTION runs away screaming
21:20.18LetheKai|MiningYes, modules, thanks Aeyan.
21:20.26*** join/#wowace Guillotine_DC (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
21:20.28Monkey_D_Luffybut, i see curse has an updated fubar 2.0
21:20.33Monkey_D_Luffyshould i try getting that?
21:20.33Eggiyou restarted wow?
21:20.40Monkey_D_Luffyyeah several times
21:20.53LetheKai|MiningHmm Monkey, sorry I'm no help.  I used WAU and FuBar's working as lovely as ever.
21:20.57*** join/#wowace Speeddymon (n=a@tera-24-206-151-175.kw.tx.cebridge.net)
21:21.01MudkipzAeyan, why disembeded?
21:21.05*** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com)
21:21.22Ziconkadrahil: I want to beat you on behalf of the people paying for the bandwidth now.
21:21.27AeyanBecause then they aren't hidden in the addon/lib/ folders
21:21.27LetheKai|Mininglol
21:21.39kadrahilZicon: who said i actually did that? ;)
21:21.54kadrahilZicon: i have like 10 addons installed, and i use MAU :P
21:21.57Ziconkadrahil: I want to  beat you just for THINKING it. That's just ... EVIL.
21:22.01Monkey_D_Luffyhm thanks i'll keep trying to find what's wrong
21:22.06MudkipzAeyan, and the reason is?
21:22.06kadrahilZicon: haha yeah
21:22.30AeyanNot really following your line of questioning
21:22.45AeyanI assume he was just counting the number of folders in interface/addons, not subfolders
21:23.20kadrahilFINALLY got this freaking samba and LDAP setup working
21:23.26kadrahilldap PDC gogogo
21:23.29Mudkipzthere must be reason why some ppl update with externals and some without
21:23.32Nick2Ack, used WAU and getting an error [string "ABHiddenFrame:OnUpdate"]: 1: attempt to call global 'AB_OnUpdate' (a nil value) wont get off.
21:23.34LetheKai|MiningThe baseline disenchant value for Enchantrix, is that based on AH prices? Man, Auctioneer is WAY too advanced for dumb people like me.
21:23.53AeyanOh, I see
21:24.15LetheKai|MiningYes Aeyan, that was without subfolders.  With subfolders it's 1k-something folders.
21:24.42LetheKai|Mining1,436
21:25.00AeyanIf you have a ton of Ace2 libs, disembedding can speed up load times because WoW just loads the one copy of the library rather than comparing with all the other embedded libs
21:25.09Mudkipzany eepanel artists here? I got a problem with grid
21:25.19AeyanErr
21:25.20LetheKai|Mining*blink*
21:25.24Aeyanton of Ace2 addons
21:25.27MudkipzAeyan, ah
21:25.28*** join/#wowace Guilly_OMG (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
21:25.49LetheKai|MiningAre Grid and eepanel by the same people?
21:26.02Mudkipznot sure
21:26.06LetheKai|MiningI see.
21:26.07AeyanWhat's the problem?
21:26.10Mudkipzever tried parenting a frame to it?
21:26.11LetheKai|MiningI love Grid.  XD
21:26.19Mudkipzand used the auto resize script and have it not work on you?
21:26.30HjalteLetheKai|Mining: Nope they are not.
21:26.36wodenquestion bout omen/threat guys
21:26.41Nick2Ack, used WAU and getting an error [string "ABHiddenFrame:OnUpdate"]: 1: attempt to call global 'AB_OnUpdate' (a nil value) wont get off the screen after clicking okay at least 100 times.
21:26.50wodendoes it take into account enchants like threat on gloves and subtlety on cloako
21:27.09Monkey_D_Luffyit should
21:27.25*** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@84-51-151-23.jamesk522.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
21:27.39Mech0zAnyone have problems with antagonists potitions after a wow restart? Mine repotitions all the time to my left side so I can't see them
21:27.44Hjaltewoden, yes.
21:27.47wodenty
21:27.48Nick2Hmm... has Cartographer given problems with BC in the past?
21:27.52KemayoNick2: Install BugGrabber and BugSack to see whether or not there are other errors as well?
21:27.56MudkipzAeyan, you should make a SS of your addon folder, I want to see exactly how crazy big that is
21:28.21Nick2Would swatter work
21:28.31KemayoSwatter does about the same thing, I think.
21:28.52KemayoHaven't used it myself, so I can't guarantee that.
21:29.03Nick2I had it from who knows when ago
21:29.24Nick2At least 30 errors :s
21:31.00Nick269 errors, not all from Cartographer but at least half are
21:31.07*** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@60-234-130-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz)
21:31.35*** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com)
21:31.37Mudkipz69 eh
21:31.57Nick2¬.¬
21:32.33Nick2Are you thinking what I think you're thinking... ¬.¬
21:32.41LetheKai|Mininglol
21:33.00ag`Fission Mailed!
21:34.34*** join/#wowace Cidan (n=aj@conspiracy/developer/Cidan)
21:34.41Nick2Ah, some of the errors are old from yesterday.
21:34.57Jorden-EDI am having an intresting problem with Antagonist
21:35.08Jorden-EDI move the anchors and when I log out then log in they show up at diff places
21:35.23Jorden-EDthe problem is... 1 of them is off the screen.. so its gone
21:35.32Jorden-EDso I tryed moving one of the two that was left randomly.. loged out and in
21:35.35Jorden-EDand now two are off the screen
21:35.55Jorden-EDand the one that I didn't move in the second attempt moved a little bit (down abought... 10px?) I know because it used to be under fubar
21:36.03LetheKai|MiningMech0z is having a similar problem.
21:36.20LetheKai|MiningNo way to reset them to the middle, huh?
21:36.37Jorden-EDwell I mean, I could go into the wtf and set the X/Y offset to 0
21:36.41Jorden-EDI am gussing that would work?
21:36.53Jorden-EDbut... I don't want them in the middle.. I want them where I put them
21:37.14AeyanMudkipz: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/big.jpg
21:38.09LetheKai|MiningI just meant to retrieve the ones that ran away.  Hehe.
21:38.35LetheKai|MiningI'm not a modder, unfortunately, nor experienced enough to actually help you.  =(
21:39.48LetheKai|MiningI'm just sitting here tweaking Skinner and looking in here EVERY TIME I have to freaking reload my UI.
21:39.51kadrahilnot a modder? is that why you have over 200 addons?
21:40.02kadrahil;)
21:40.07LetheKai|MiningI like mods.  XD I meant I don't make them, or even understand the workings, haha.
21:40.13AeyanI've written one =P
21:40.21kadrahil~cookie Aeyan
21:40.37Industrialurmom
21:40.39Industriallulz
21:40.41kadrahilNO U
21:40.47AeyanAww...
21:40.58kadrahilFisker-'s mom
21:41.04Vires~somebody
21:41.05purlwell, somebody is a person who has a body and is a huge liar, just ask rayford, Malgayne, or TecnoBrat.
21:41.07*** join/#wowace Tsikura (n=tsikura@user-0cev19g.cable.mindspring.com)
21:41.30Nick2http://gameon365.com/wow-interface_errors.txt :S
21:41.36Jorden-EDno help on ant?
21:41.59kadrahili suppose if anyone could've helped they would've spoken up :/
21:42.15Jorden-EDwell... doesn't hert to spam here because I cant pvp without it =/
21:42.23kadrahilhave you tried Quartz?
21:42.32ViresNick2: Download Dewdrop Lib? WAU not fetching reqs?
21:42.39Jorden-EDQuartz Fails at showing things for all bad guys
21:42.45Jorden-EDit only shows your target
21:42.49kadrahilah
21:42.51Jorden-EDSo I use both at the same time
21:42.54AeyanSorry, I dunno
21:43.02Jorden-EDI use Ant with filters only showing what I MUST know with big ass bars
21:43.09Jorden-EDand Quartz shows everything about my target
21:43.15kadrahili haven't used antagonist in a long time.. sorry man
21:43.48Jorden-EDIts Literaly imposible to play a paladin over 2200 without knowing when fears/sheeps/cyclones are being cast.. cant LoS without once you get used to it
21:44.00CIA-2203antiarc * r50185 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Disable TPS updates 10 seconds after the last threat event. Should prevent problems with TPS updates getting stuck in the "on" position. Made a potential optimization to points clearing on the bars in ArrangeBars.
21:44.08LetheKai|MiningI got rid of Antagonist and just use WitchHunt.  >.<
21:44.14kadrahil:O
21:44.21kadrahilwtb 2200 team
21:45.04Jorden-EDwe where 2300 two weeks ago.. then we lost our spot in standing 1 did all bad.. and our lock left =/
21:45.05LetheKai|MiningIt was too clunky for me, but I don't PvP as much/well as you.  Maybe that's one reason haha.
21:45.14kadrahildoh
21:45.24kadrahilmy arena teams suck
21:45.29kadrahil1411/1610/1411
21:45.38LetheKai|MiningMmm, Paladin and Warlock on one team would suck to face.
21:45.58NickenyfikenAntiarc is a live!
21:46.04Jorden-EDPaladin/Lock/Hunter/Warrior/Resto-Sham (and HolyPriest on bench)
21:46.04kadrahilliar
21:46.14kadrahilhunter?? lies
21:46.19Jorden-EDBut thats not important
21:46.35Jorden-EDViperSting + Mana drain and two pets to stop drinking
21:46.40irandamayyay hunter :D
21:46.44Jorden-EDAnt working is important...
21:46.55LetheKai|MiningUgh Warrior.
21:47.00LetheKai|MiningI hate Warriors in PvP!
21:47.03LetheKai|MiningSigh.
21:47.26ViresYou'd like me. I'm easy to kill =(
21:47.48LetheKai|MiningI doubt it, if we dueled you'd have an unprecedented lucky crit streak.  All warriors do vs me.
21:48.01Nick2Ermn, how would I install dewdrop?
21:48.37Nick2or even download rofl
21:48.47cncfanaticsis LibSpecialEventsAura-3.0 loadable with libstub ?
21:48.48Nick2ah got the svn
21:48.58ag`Nick2: it's included in addons that uses it
21:49.01LetheKai|MiningI have a DewdropLib folder.  Don't know where it came from, but I bet you can just extract it into the Addons folder like normal.  =x
21:49.16LetheKai|Mining<--Helpful.
21:51.41Lukianis there an addon which adds where an item drops to tooltips? :D
21:51.52*** join/#wowace Cidan (n=aj@conspiracy/developer/Cidan)
21:52.09Grumwhile using RockConfig, is there any way to add a spacer between items? and possibly even a header orso
21:52.23Jorden-EDhrm.. its av weekend
21:52.44Jorden-EDif anyone here has a 70 alt in blues and not 72k honor.. you fail because your here
21:52.45AeyanLukian, Mendeleev sort of does that
21:52.52*** join/#wowace Gilded (n=Gilded@adsl-69-109-123-111.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
21:52.53LukianAeyan, yeah?
21:53.14*** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-180-34.pool.tvnet.hu)
21:54.38*** join/#wowace JCinDE (n=jcinde@c-76-116-131-42.hsd1.de.comcast.net)
21:55.04NeoTron<3 blizzard
21:55.17NeoTronKael'thas phase 3 - any weapon alive has their HP doubled (max/current)
21:55.25NeoTronalong with the advisors
21:55.28Nick2Is it possible to make an addon that will read from a text file on the net and simply display it in a window with a scrollbar in-game like the swatter debugger?
21:55.37JCinDEno
21:55.45*** join/#wowace Drool (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk)
21:55.48cncfanaticsNeoTron, Kael'thas wasnt hard enough already ?
21:55.55Grumcncfanatics: indeed lol
21:56.04LetheKai|MiningSorry, does anyone know how to fix this error?: http://www.chronalis.com/images/lethe/error1.jpg
21:56.05JCinDENick2: addons cannot read any file
21:56.38NeoTroncncfanatics: lolbug
21:56.38GrumLetheKai|Mining: i'm going for the best option evar .. UPDATE!
21:56.40Nick2Can they execute a file like an updater batch or executable?
21:56.49JCinDEnope
21:56.49Grumno
21:56.55Grumyou do not have access to anything *outside* of wow
21:56.57NeoTroninstead of givnig advisors a 1/2 health debuff in phase 1, their HP is 1/2 of normal and they get a HP*2 buff in phase 3
21:56.58cncfanaticsNeoTron, weird bugs, hp valeus should be contained in some datbaase of some kind
21:56.58JCinDEthey are in a very strictly controlled sandbox
21:57.01cncfanaticscan't really change by accident
21:57.02NeoTronexcept it also affects weapons
21:57.17cncfanaticsah I see
21:57.18cncfanaticsidiots
21:57.20LetheKai|MiningGrum: THat's a tad vague.  Update what? I JUST downloaded Auctioneer, installed it, and went to the AH.
21:57.20Nick2I suppose it does keep it safer
21:57.21NeoTronit's an intentional change, but only intended for the advisors (since they made phase 1 easier)
21:57.32NeoTronyou wonder if they have any working QA
21:57.42NeoTronfrom heroic Al'ar, to 15 minute enrage Illidan, to this
21:57.43GrumLetheKai|Mining: really curious why you ask here .. Auctioneer is in no way related to wowace :D
21:57.57Grumbut still, poke the author of it .. or download a previous version
21:58.00JCinDEThe closest you can come to it is run an external executable that downloads the data and saves it to your addon folder as a .lua file...but I STRONGLY recommend against even trying.
21:58.02LetheKai|MiningBecause the people here know a lot about mods, and I'm sitting in here.
21:58.03Grumor something - dunno
21:58.10*** join/#wowace Nargiddley` (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net)
21:58.18NeoTrondespite blizzard screwing up one of our raid days we cleared 3/4 TK, 6/6SSC + mags in 2 days (best ever)
21:58.28Nick2Anyone able to help with the following errors in 'some noob who knows coding but nothing about addons' terms?  http://gameon365.com/wow-interface_errors.txt
21:59.11JCinDEhave you been keeping your mods up to date?
21:59.29Nick2just cartographer ones, all latest releases
21:59.38NickenyfikenNick2: you need DewDrop
22:00.00Nick2It's in the Cartographer libs folder :s
22:00.04NickenyfikenUhm for some weird reason
22:00.11NickenyfikenPut it in your addons folder
22:00.15Nick2mkay
22:00.30NickenyfikenOr add a entry in Externals.xml :-P
22:00.45GrumNeoTron: that is quite some speed, what raid-times and what did you kill each night? :D
22:00.48Nick2reloading UI
22:01.00NickenyfikenBut can someone explain why Cartographer wants DewDrop?
22:01.06NickenyfikenNick2: you have to restart WoW
22:01.21Nick2yeh, found that now lol
22:01.40Grumit uses dewdrop i think for some of the 'on map dropdowns'
22:02.02Grumbut this seems like a 'not having recent version' (or having broken addons - so reinstall (option in wau))
22:02.04JCinDEIs it alive?
22:02.05Nick2I don't even see Dewdrop in the addons list on char selecter
22:03.27Mudkipzdamn
22:03.27Mudkipzthat DID work...
22:03.36GrumNick2: depending on how you update you should have a libs dir with dewdrop inside
22:03.47Nick2Yes, I saw that
22:03.52JCinDEDoes nevcairiel ever wake up?
22:04.02Grumyes he was awake most of the day
22:04.06Grumprolly way past bedtime for him now
22:04.15JCinDEAh I suspected a timezone thing
22:04.26JCinDEI'll have to hop on from work some time then
22:04.51JCinDEI have Bartender3's stickyframes modded so they'll stick to screen edges and to the world frame for us Aperture users
22:05.25Grumnice
22:05.39Paradoxanyone know why using pitbull I can't see a lot of buffs and debuffs I get?
22:05.52JCinDEyou can adjust how many show up
22:05.54Nick2Nothing changes after using WAU reinstall
22:05.54Grumbecause you have told it to only show certain kinds?
22:06.06GrumNick2: do you install with or without externals?
22:06.15Grumand do you have the latest version of WAU?
22:06.24Nick2yes, just installed WAU an hour or so ago
22:06.43Nick2Just used WAU to reinstall so whatever the settings are then thats what it is
22:06.44Grumyou using the right version? because if it installs when you have an old version it will not always overwrie the old installation
22:07.04Grumwell check right-below if it says with or without externals in the statusbar
22:07.27Paradoxit's not that I have too many nicky
22:07.29Paradoxnick*
22:07.37Paradoxjust some certain ones dont show on the bras
22:07.39Paradoxbars*
22:07.47Grumyou can select 'only show dispellable debuffs' for example
22:07.50Nick2Default Mode: Externals
22:08.57GrumNick2: can you try to select reinstall all addons from the main menu?
22:09.04Grumit's really working here O.o
22:09.18Grumfor the last week with daily updates
22:09.24MecdemortI'm trying to create a frame in xml but for some reason its not working and no global var is made.  http://ace.pastey.net/74521
22:09.46Grumwhy make it in xml? (just curious)
22:10.10Mecdemorti gotta have a bunch of frames and templates so im just putting them all in xml
22:10.24Grumyou know you can do it from lua right? :)
22:10.27Paradoxthanks grum
22:10.35Mecdemortmeh, its a lot clearer in xml... once it works
22:10.36GrumParadox: yw
22:10.39Nick2reinstalled
22:10.47*** part/#wowace Chiea (n=kekek-2@81-235-235-130-no92.tbcn.telia.com)
22:10.51GrumNick2: make sure to fully quit wow
22:10.56Nick2did
22:10.58XinhuanMecdemort: check your Errors\FrameXML.log file
22:10.59Grumelse you might have some remnants left it tries to reload
22:10.59Grumk
22:11.01Xinhuanwhat does it say?
22:11.17Nick2loading
22:11.43Xinhuansorry, Mecdemort, i mean Logs\FrameXML.log
22:11.52Nick2Have rock but only rock config, nothing else
22:11.59Nick2map not modified
22:12.11MecdemortXinhuan: hmm, couldnt parse the .xml
22:12.16Grumif you have Cartographer you have more than just RockConfig
22:12.24Xinhuanthen you have an unclosed string or bracket somewhere
22:12.47Xinhuanand i'll bet the issue is in line 17
22:12.49Nick2Rock is the only thing that has ever shown existance of the addon being there
22:12.52Xinhuanyou didn't close <Color>
22:13.05Mecdemortdoh, i see
22:13.15GrumNick2: so whats the error atm? still the same?
22:13.25Nick2yes, not seeing any new though
22:13.29Mecdemortthanks
22:13.36Xinhuanby the way Mecdemort, its neater to just create a LUA function that creates this template
22:13.44GrumNick2: wth O.o
22:13.54Grumi said that as well Xinhuan :)
22:14.02Grumway easier from lua and also more readable
22:14.30Industrialironically
22:14.31GrumNick2: i have completely no idea - you could decide to kill all of the Cartographer*.lua SavedVariables files
22:14.32Industrial:p
22:14.33Xinhuanfunction CreateMyFrameTemplate() local frame = CreateFrame: etc etc, set the background, height, width... return frame; end
22:14.48*** join/#wowace PProvost__ (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost)
22:14.48*** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost__] by ChanServ
22:14.49Nick2saved var deletion might help lol
22:15.01Grumdepends on what you have in there ofc
22:15.04Grumyou loose all settings ^^
22:15.17Mecdemortthis http://ace.pastey.net/74522 is easier to create in lua?
22:15.34Grumhell yes O.o
22:15.38Xinhuanyes, easier
22:15.40Nick2kill the .bak's too?
22:15.43Grumi dont know how though
22:15.49Xinhuanabout 20 lines max
22:15.51GrumNick2: make sure you want it ^^
22:15.51Xinhuaninstead of 74
22:15.52Mecdemortya, thats the problem.  I wouldnt know how to do it in lua
22:16.01PulpstarAnyone know what the
22:16.10Xinhuanits pretty easy actually
22:16.17PulpstarLatest omen version is ?
22:16.22GrumMecdemort: download 'Record' it has a a nice 20lines build me a frame piece of code inside that builds the complete window it uses with subframes etc
22:16.27Xinhuani'll give you an example Mecdemort
22:16.29PulpstarSSC 2 nights ago we had some problem
22:16.39GrumPulpstar: around 50k ^^
22:16.51GrumPulpstar: people need to upgrade, make them
22:17.10PulpstarI always seem to get links back to v2.1 ones tho
22:17.22Funkeh`Anyone know if dispell events and cloak of shadows fires the aura gone self event for aura fades from you when removing a debuff?
22:17.26Nick2Hmm... Would WAU detect my n:/world of warcraft folder, I think because I see a WauBackup folder but heh, could be in one of my other 4 WoW directories
22:17.46GrumPulpstar: it's not as much Omen causing the problem as Threat-1.0 not working nicely together
22:17.47MecdemortI would think xml frame generation would be faster than lua too
22:18.06Nick2Nah, deleting saved vars didnt help
22:18.08GrumNick2: LOL :D
22:18.17Grumare you sure you updated into the right dir then? :D
22:18.26Nick2If it puts WauBackup then yes
22:18.28Grumbecause when i download&install carto it works out of the box
22:18.46XinhuanMecdemort: not when templates are involved ;p
22:18.58Xinhuanwhen you use templates, with $parent
22:19.03Xinhuanevery name is global
22:19.11Xinhuanand it has to register that in _G
22:19.23GrumMecdemort: you could check addons like Bartender or Flexbar to look up the frame-generating code they use
22:19.35Xinhuanya
22:19.49Xinhuanbasically you first create the button with CreateFrame("Button")
22:19.59phyberanyone noticed Supremus Hateful Strike doing more damage in 2.2?  used to do 7-8k before now it's hitting for 9-10k on the same tank?
22:20.04Xinhuanthen you give it a width and height with :SetWidth and :SetHeight
22:20.05Grumthey actually also handle the 'secur'-crap
22:20.12Xinhuanand you set the anchors with :SetPoint
22:20.14*** join/#wowace CIA-22 (n=CIA@208.69.182.149)
22:20.23Xinhuanthen for every texture
22:20.25Grumphyber: errrr those numbers for real?
22:20.29Grum78k?
22:20.44Nick2I'm going to try witout the 15-20 Cartographer plugins enabled.
22:20.49phyber7-8k = 7k to 8k
22:20.54Xinhuanyou use mybutton:CreateTexture(nil, "BACKGROUND")
22:20.55Nick2Still not working.
22:21.01phyberyour client stripping the - out or something? :p
22:21.05GrumNick2: downlaod it yourself and smack it in
22:21.06Grumjust to be sure
22:21.13Ellipsis~fail Grum
22:21.14purlGrum: Fail.
22:21.17Grumfiles.wowace.com/Cartographer/Cartographer.zip
22:21.20Grumoh stfu Ellipsis
22:21.22Ellipsis:D
22:21.24GrumNO ADDON FOR YOU
22:21.25Mudkipzjust the person I was looking for
22:21.26GrumNEVAR
22:21.29Xinhuansuch as myButton.icon = mybutton:CreateTexture(nil, "BACKGROUND")
22:21.30EllipsisNO PICS FOR YOU
22:21.39Grumi'll bribe ckk
22:21.39XinhuanmyButton.icon:SetWidth()
22:21.43Grumnot a problem
22:21.44XinhuanmyButton.icon:SetHeight()
22:21.48XinhuanmyButton.icon:SetPoint()
22:21.54Xinhuanget it Mecdemort?
22:22.25Grumalso check autobar for example, that one has quite extensive frame-generation going on as well (button related)
22:22.37Grum~taser Ellipsis
22:22.37purlACTION stuns Ellipsis with a taser, then drags Ellipsis out into the middle of highway 666
22:22.45Xinhuanfor the <NormalTexture> stuff, you use button:SetNormalTexture(button.normaltexture) after you created button.normaltexture = button:CreateTexture()
22:22.51Ellipsislulz
22:23.00EllipsisI fail't harder today though
22:23.06EllipsisI was supposed to wake up 6 hours ago
22:23.07Ellipsis>_<
22:23.08Xinhuanyou just need to set the proper stuff like :SetTexture(path)
22:23.08Nick2Are there any addons known to cause hell with Cartographer?
22:23.12Grumlikely, what did you do Ellipsis?
22:23.14GrumLOL
22:23.15Grumnub :D
22:23.18MudkipzEllipsis, you did the really did fix aestil's panels amirite?
22:23.23Grumbut you dont have work .. so who cares?! :D
22:23.28Mecdemortok, ill give that a try
22:23.35cncfanaticsHUGE essay inc
22:23.39CIA-2203cncfanatics 07Rock * r50186 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/ (10 files in 10 dirs): (log message trimmed)
22:23.39CIA-22FlexBar2:
22:23.39CIA-22Core.lua:
22:23.39CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:23.39CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:23.40cncfanaticscheck wowace-cia lol
22:23.40CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:23.42CIA-22Action.lua:
22:24.12cncfanaticslol, CIA-34 has left the room in #wowace-cia
22:24.27cncfanaticsCyrez, where did CIA go ?
22:24.44Grumon a mission, dont expect to wake up tomorrow
22:24.53Grumand hes taking pics of Ellipsis
22:24.56CyrezI didn't touch it. ><
22:24.59Ellipsiso.O
22:25.04cncfanaticsCyrez, I think my essay was too long
22:25.05Mecdemortshould i just put all the code into OnInitialize() or something?
22:25.11cncfanaticsit was only 30 lines :(
22:25.15EllipsisMudkipz: again, in English this time?
22:25.32Mudkipzhave you tried parent frames to grid?
22:25.36Mudkipzparenting*
22:25.50Ellipsiser, lolwut?
22:26.00GrumMudkipz: you are talking gibberish
22:26.10Grumand not the dialect we can understand
22:26.21Mudkipzhave you?
22:26.21XinhuanMecdemort: depends on when you want the frames to be created
22:26.37EllipsisMudkipz: I'm not sure what you're talking about, need more context
22:26.41Xinhuanbut first, this is just a template function
22:26.49Xinhuanthat creates a "template" frame
22:27.00Ellipsisif you're asking if I helped aestil with his eePanels and a Grid resize script, yes
22:27.10Ellipsisif you're asking whether I've personally been doing that with my UI, no
22:27.16cncfanaticsCyrez, why did CIA leave as I commited ?
22:27.16EllipsisI don't use eePanels or Grid
22:27.17Mudkipzhave you tried to eepanels2 -parenting frames- to Grid?
22:27.17Ellipsis>_>
22:27.19cncfanaticsit was me I guess ? :p
22:27.23aestilellipisis was a great halp to me eepanels.
22:27.31*** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
22:27.32Grumshow pics !!!!
22:27.40Grum(of what was the result)
22:27.41CIA-2203fin * r50187 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua: Prat: Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua: added options to tweak the chat frame edit box's border width and padding.
22:27.42aestilyou guys talking about me wihtout me being around scares me. just what are you saying.
22:27.43Cyrezcncfanatics: CIA's site is sluggish. THEY are having "issues".
22:27.53XinhuanMecdemort: consider looking at this code - http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/WidgetWarlock/Summons.lua
22:27.54Ellipsisaestil: he started it!
22:28.19Mecdemortok, thanks
22:28.22Xinhuanthis is a library written by Tekkub to create "optionbuttons" and stuff with a basic template
22:28.28Grumaestil: that's the only reason to stick on irc ^^
22:28.41Grumso you can backlog
22:28.43aestilEllipsis: ima send you my eePanel SV
22:28.53Xinhuanbasically, its just a lot of functions that each create a certain OptionBox, or EditBox or CheckBox or Button, etc
22:29.08Xinhuanand gives them a default look, default size, default background, etc
22:29.11Xinhuanthen returns that frame
22:29.20Ellipsisaestil: mkay, any particular reason? :P
22:29.36Xinhuanyou can think of it like a "better CreateFrame()" that has a template attached to it
22:30.09Xinhuanthe examples in there should get you going
22:30.22cncfanaticslets read that Xinhuan
22:30.26cncfanaticsI use & abuse CreateFrame
22:30.56Grummeh wtb effective way to do a sort uniq values $table ^^
22:30.59Xinhuantekkub called his library WidgetWarlock
22:31.08*** join/#wowace Guillotine_DC (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
22:31.15Xinhuanand named all his CreateFrame() functions as SummonXYZ()
22:31.22Xinhuanlike SummonEditBox
22:31.24Ellipsishaha
22:31.36Ellipsisnobody appreciates the warlocks these days
22:31.54Xinhuanwhich is really just a fancy CreateFrame() with a default look attached to it, and doesn't pollute the global _G with a name
22:32.09cncfanatics_G poluting for frames is silly
22:32.15cncfanaticsbut a lot of funcs need a string instead of an object
22:32.17cncfanaticsso its required -.-
22:32.27GrumEllipsis: they all have fat asses
22:32.39Ellipsisouch, Grum, ouch
22:33.15*** part/#wowace Herr (n=pipistot@HSI-KBW-091-089-009-210.hsi2.kabelbw.de)
22:33.32Xinhuanyeah the default sliders, scrollframes, etc
22:33.40Xinhuanall require global naming
22:33.46Xinhuanif you want to use them
22:34.03GrumEllipsis: but its so true
22:34.07Ellipsis=[
22:34.30Ellipsisnow I'm gonna become anorexic and it will be all your fault!
22:34.45Xinhuanhowever i've got so many locals that i've reached the 200 locals limit that i'll probably just release all my local frames and use global references instead
22:34.52aestilEllipsis: any particular reason for what?
22:35.04Ellipsissending me your SVs
22:35.27GrumEllipsis: make before and after pics so we can see if you actually get fatter or thinner
22:36.31Ellipsishmph!
22:36.54*** join/#wowace Neebler (n=BuM@adsl-63-207-238-205.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net)
22:37.04Grumoohh stop whining
22:38.28Ellipsissee Grum, this is why I can never send you any pics
22:38.29CIA-2203kilrogg * r50188 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/ (DurabilityFu.lua FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc):
22:38.29CIA-22FuBar_DurabilityFu:
22:38.29CIA-22- updated TOC to 20200
22:38.29CIA-22- Fixed inventory durability update
22:38.45Grumwhy not? it can not be worse than the current reality is for me
22:38.49Ellipsisbecause if I did, just once, you'd never talk to me again because you have nothing to talk about except me sending pics :P
22:39.01Grumbah
22:39.05CIA-2203kameril * r50189 10VisualThemes/BlizzardFrames.lua:
22:39.05CIA-22VisualThemes:
22:39.05CIA-22-Disabled support for Blizzard's Drop Down menus due to taint issues.
22:39.17Grumlol
22:39.53Temwait wait
22:39.55Temslow down
22:39.58Tem_her_?
22:40.03Temgirls don't program
22:40.04Grumyes she has tits
22:40.07Ellipsislol
22:40.08Grumor so she claims
22:40.09Temit's like a law or seomthing
22:40.13Ellipsissorry Tem
22:40.19Ellipsisyou can pretend I'm male if you want
22:40.19Temalso, girls don't use the internet
22:40.23Ellipsisyou know,  no girls on the internets
22:40.24Ellipsisyeah
22:40.24Grumfat ass is confirmed Tem
22:40.31EllipsisGrum! :P
22:40.34TemGrum, ?
22:40.49Ellipsishe lies
22:40.52Ellipsishe hasn't seen pics
22:40.57Grumtruth unless picced
22:40.59PulpstarYou're no stranger to looovee !
22:41.09Ellipsis~fail Pulpstar
22:41.10purlPulpstar: Fail.
22:41.13aestilgrum, this is where i'm at right now.
22:41.18aestilhttp://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6093/wowscrnshot092807154027as9.jpg
22:41.31Grumsweet aestil
22:41.35aestilEllipsis: you would have to pass the vent test i instituded in my guild.
22:41.42Ellipsisaestil: WTS SWStats2Fu :P
22:41.45Ellipsisok
22:41.46Ellipsis:D
22:41.48Grumthats really nice
22:41.57aestil:( i like that minimap button.  but ok.
22:42.02Ellipsisyou what?! >_>
22:42.11Ellipsisit looks  so....wrong
22:42.18Grumlol indeed
22:42.24Grumlike someones ass in here
22:42.25aestilswsfus just seemslike... i dunno, why put a mod to do what that minimap icon does so natureally.
22:42.31Grumwrong beyond fitting
22:42.33aestil*BOGGLE* :(  i have ass on my ui?
22:42.47Grumnot in *there* .. in *here*
22:42.48*** part/#wowace cncfanatics (i=evolve@186.23-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)
22:42.54Grumbut lets see if you have a warlock on your screeny
22:43.06Grumoh look left in the back, it blocks out the rest of outlands
22:43.45Ellipsisaestil: either hide the icon or Fu it :P
22:43.47*** join/#wowace Guilly_OMG (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
22:43.53Grumfu you!
22:43.57Ellipsisalso: am not opposed to talking on vent :P
22:43.58aestilthere's supposed to be an event that fires when an Addon loads, and I was trying to register it for my eepanels around grid on log up, as well as the party change thing, couldn't figure that out.
22:44.31Grumaestil: doesnt grid toss an event when it changes shape?
22:44.37Ellipsisactually
22:44.53aestilgrum, it should.
22:44.57Ellipsishow about I just stop by your starbucks instead
22:44.58EllipsisXD
22:45.13aestili marked out a lb of coffee for you this week, you can have 2 if you want.
22:45.20Ellipsishaha you're so awesome
22:45.21aestili work tommorow from 3.45 - close.
22:46.10Ellipsishmm
22:47.02Wogroiplhmmm can Flexbar2 hide the default actionbars?
22:47.12aestili do have a problem with the UI.
22:47.18aestildunno if this is possible to fix.
22:47.25Grumsomeone entertain me
22:47.27Grumbored
22:47.28aestilthe blank box, on the lower right area.
22:47.33GrumDO IT NOW :'(
22:47.33aestilthats BT3BarPET
22:47.44aestilbut I dont' have a pet, but the panels I parent to it show, even when its not visible.
22:47.54Ellipsisparent it to your pet frame instead, then offset it
22:48.03Ellipsisknown issue with parenting to BT3BarPET
22:48.14aestilOMG
22:48.19aestilthats gonna be a pain in my ass.
22:48.24Ellipsisyyyyyyup
22:48.30Grumbetter in yours than in mine!
22:48.43aestilwell, i guess I can anchor it to BT3BarPET and parent it to PitBullFrame2
22:48.46aestilthat would work?
22:48.55Ellipsisprobably
22:48.57Grumtry? :D
22:50.08Mudkipzugh
22:50.12Mudkipzsorry where was I at?
22:50.16*** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
22:50.22Mudkipzsome mormons was at the door and I didn't tell em to go away so they kept yappin
22:50.23*** join/#wowace Fatalis`timeout (i=fatalisd@68-184-216-193.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
22:50.30EllipsisMudkipz you scare me
22:50.39Grumbest hint is just closing the door
22:50.46Ellipsisdid I somehow manage to answer your question about parenting frames to Grid?
22:50.50*** join/#wowace Diao (i=vschiu@ip68-225-241-233.oc.oc.cox.net)
22:50.52Grumor just say you need to take a huge shit really fast
22:51.06Grumtwitch a bit and run away
22:51.12MudkipzI'm not sure
22:51.18MudkipzI might need to scroll up
22:51.22Ellipsiswell
22:51.28Ellipsislet me just explain again then
22:51.40EllipsisI helped aestil do his, but I don't use either Grid or eePanels in my own UI
22:52.26Grumyou are just too nice Ellipsis
22:53.09Ellipsis~kill Grum
22:53.09purlACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudoquark gun at Grum
22:53.11EllipsisHA
22:53.20Ellipsisthat's what you get for misjudging me
22:53.22Grumdodge
22:53.29*** join/#wowace skypilot (n=chatzill@bas4-toronto63-1096693611.dsl.bell.ca)
22:53.40GrumEllipsis: i'm still right about your ass, no idea what you are talking about
22:53.54Ellipsisnobody here knows what my ass looks like x.x
22:54.25Grumso you didn't send picks to ck?
22:54.30Ellipsisof my face
22:54.32Ellipsisnot my ass
22:54.32Grumso you are lying and fatassed? ^^
22:54.37Grumtsssk
22:54.47Grumso what did he do to earn that? :D
22:54.54Ellipsiswouldn't you like to know
22:55.33Grumoooh i do
22:55.49nevcairielget a room you two
22:56.23Grumgood plan
22:56.38Grum#fatass ? 8)
22:57.17Wogroiplcan Flexbar2 hide the Blizz actionbars?
22:57.28*** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-137-156-71.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
22:57.29aestilPitBullFrame2 gets created as soon as you enter combat apparently.
22:57.31*** join/#wowace kandarz (n=chatzill@c-67-182-147-5.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
22:57.32aestilso that doesn't work.
22:57.38nevcairielsomehow you are really weird grum, when i think of an unknown female ass .. i at least try to think of a nice one =P
22:57.54Grummaybe i like em differently ;D
22:58.04Amadeosick, what a great time to come into the channel
22:58.11nevcairiellol
22:58.25AmadeoNow I'm picturing Grum looking at granny porn
22:58.56Jorden-EDAnyone having problems with Antagonist?
22:58.57CIA-2203aliset * r50190 10StatFrameLib/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
22:58.57CIA-22StatFrameLib:
22:58.57CIA-22- Whoops, wrong filename for TOC. I R smrt.
22:59.05Jorden-EDthe anchors are not holding their positions properly
22:59.13Jorden-EDinfact, two of them have moved off my screen
22:59.20Arcaiais it AV weekend?
22:59.22Arcaia-gasp-
22:59.25nevcairielyea
22:59.35*** join/#wowace Maytrix (n=chriswya@adsl-76-252-19-134.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net)
22:59.35Arcaiaim gonna be rich!
22:59.40ArcaiaAVs all weekend
22:59.43Arcaiathe power of guildless
22:59.48Maytrixheelo all
23:00.05Grumpft it's kinda empty in #fatass :(
23:00.06Ellipsisthe power...of cheeeeeeeeese
23:01.18Grummmmcheese
23:01.37Maytrixbeen lurking in the forums for a long thought it was time for me to start lurking in here as well
23:01.59cchomedid ace2 mess up macros?? i get "ignore reload ui" error with some macros
23:02.03cchomesaid to disable ace2
23:02.15JCinDEAh! nevcairiel lives!
23:02.21Maytrixprobably visualthemes
23:02.26*** join/#wowace `-FISKER_Q\ (i=xD@85.24.17.53.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk)
23:02.27nevcairielmost of the time i do
23:02.34Maytrixit has an issue with castsequence macros
23:02.34*** join/#wowace zacw (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
23:02.35nevcairielbut i do sleep
23:02.37cchomeMaytrix its visualteams??
23:02.46cchomeoh is the new visualthemese fixes it?
23:02.51cchomeyah castsequences
23:02.51Ellipsisyes
23:03.08EllipsisVisualThemes was just updated to fix tainting issues
23:03.20Ellipsisand it's always a good idea to update all your addons when you have taint problems
23:03.23Maytrixsweet i am curious as to what was the issue with it?
23:03.42Ellipsis[3:38:45 pm] <CIA-22> -Disabled support for Blizzard's Drop Down menus due to taint issues.
23:03.50*** join/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl)
23:03.56Maytrixahh
23:04.28Grumwhat is VisibleThemes?
23:04.39Ellipsisit makes things shiny
23:04.48Ellipsisanimates opening and closing frames and stuff
23:04.56Maytrixallows fro some fadein/out effects on your frames
23:06.02MudkipzGrum sidetracked you
23:06.05Mudkipzplease continue :(
23:06.08Grumlol .. like Vista but for your wow?
23:06.27EllipsisMudkipz: no sidetracking, I was done
23:06.46Grumyou just got ignored Mudkipz
23:06.50Ellipsisno u
23:06.58Grumyay! \o/
23:06.58Maytrixno u ...rofl
23:07.04Mudkipzok I see how it is
23:07.08Ellipsisand yeah, VisualThemes is designed to imitate Vista I think
23:07.13Grummean people
23:07.19Mudkipzgb2 #fatass
23:07.22EllipsisMudkipz: if your question didn't get answered then ask it again :P
23:07.36Ellipsisgb2urown #fatass
23:07.42Mudkipzlol
23:07.45Mudkipzanyway
23:07.53CIA-2203jncl * r50191 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/RockConfig.lua options.lua): Skinner: Fix for RockConfig skin
23:07.54Mudkipzyou said you taught aestil how to work eepanels with grid
23:07.58Ellipsisyarly
23:08.18Mudkipzso there is more to it than just adding sciripts for the auto resize?
23:08.22Maytrixjncl does that address when the config frame is called from wihtin a mod?
23:08.26Mudkipzbecause it's not working out at all
23:08.45Ellipsiserm
23:08.52Mudkipzis it something funky like parenting to violation?
23:08.58Ellipsisnope
23:09.02Mudkipzoh
23:09.06Ellipsisaestil just parented to GridLayoutFrame and added a resize script
23:09.13Mudkipzyeah that's what I did
23:09.29buuINCOMING.
23:09.29Mudkipzbut after /reload GridLayoutFrame becomes locked
23:09.42Ellipsishis uses the PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED event though
23:09.47Ellipsisdunno if that would work better for you
23:10.01MudkipzI'm using the script from the guide EE put up
23:10.06buuHrm. I need some way to automatically resize assessment.
23:10.27Grumdoesnt remember size?
23:10.45EllipsisMudkipz: is it just never changing size, or what?
23:10.46MudkipzI also parented a border onto the eepanel attached to grid, and that one doesn't keep its width setting after /reload
23:10.50buuNo, it does.. essentially I want to resize it when I'm interested in it
23:11.06buuKeep it small usually, then "zoom in" when I care.
23:11.07MudkipzI think that's my main problem
23:12.00Ellipsiser
23:12.05EllipsisMudkipz, parented a border? o.O
23:12.10Mudkipzsorry
23:12.10buuPerhaps the best solution is to cause it to grow towards the center when I mouse over it.
23:12.28Mudkipz2panels - 1 back - 1 acts as a fake border
23:12.44Ellipsiswhy do you people overcomplicate things like that
23:12.45Ellipsissigh
23:12.55Mudkipzbecause both panels have borders
23:13.06Mudkipzmedium colors with 1px black border
23:13.20Ellipsishttp://ace.pastey.net/74497 is aestil's script
23:13.20Mudkipz:P
23:13.28Mudkipzoh I'll check tha tout
23:13.32Ellipsisperhaps you can modify it to work for your setup
23:13.34*** join/#wowace Wobin (n=wobin@124-171-9-66.dyn.iinet.net.au)
23:13.34*** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ
23:14.30Stanzilla2pew pew pew
23:14.36Ellipsismew mew mew
23:14.41Grumman that is a lot of config needed
23:14.47Grumkitten!
23:15.05Ellipsis(=';'=) meow?
23:15.13*** part/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl)
23:15.14Mudkipzah so that's the script he inserts for auto resize?
23:15.17Grumwhooo!
23:15.30Ellipsisyeah Mudkipz
23:16.40Mudkipzthis is mine from last night http://xs319.xs.to/xs319/07395/WoWScrnShot_092707_184735.jpg
23:17.22*** join/#wowace Inc` (n=mgast@pool-71-170-109-250.dllstx.fios.verizon.net)
23:17.38miicaMudkipz: nice ui
23:17.59cchomelots of gold!
23:18.10Nick2I disabled all my addons other than cartographer and now rock has a cartographer section but the addon still wont work
23:18.11Mudkipzthat's only half of it :P
23:18.42cchomefrom pve farming? or professions?
23:18.44Nick2o.o, cartographer work but in full-screen (which i somewhat perfer)
23:18.46Mudkipza little of both
23:18.51EllipsisWTS framerate Mudkipz
23:19.07Mudkipzya it gets pretty bad
23:19.09Mudkipz:(
23:19.09miicaMudkipz: i rely like those borders
23:19.18miicaMudkipz: can you share those border textures
23:19.30Amadeoframerate's probably dead from the software sound
23:19.33cchomeonly problem i have is selecting a good Font and a good texture..
23:19.36Mudkipzthey're just 2 different colored panels with a 4px black border
23:19.45miicaoh
23:19.51miicamy i am 2 drunk ;D
23:19.57miicaanyway it looks nice
23:20.00Mudkipzty
23:20.28Ellipsisyou know, I think my framerate actually increased a bit from the sound change
23:20.31miicai had something like this http://koti.mbnet.fi/miica/ee/newUI.png
23:20.31Ellipsisthat's probably a bad sign XD
23:20.38miicai changed it little now but
23:20.39genetik-anyone ever have parrot not save their settings after configuring it?
23:20.44miicanot my textures
23:20.55EllipsisOH GOD THE TEXTURE
23:20.55Mudkipzmy friend uses those textures too on his paladin
23:21.15cchomesmooth v2 is the texture i choose =)
23:21.16miicathey sukcs ;D
23:21.17Mudkipzyou got some work to do
23:21.23miicadont have them anymore
23:21.37Ellipsismiica, how can you live with that pet bar? x.x
23:21.38cchomewhat font does ppl use?
23:22.01miicaEllipsis: :D
23:22.05cchomehttp://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9822/wowscrnshot092507000141we7.jpg  
23:22.08cchomethats mines
23:22.08miicaEllipsis: it isnt in amazing place?
23:22.09Hjaltecchome: Calibri
23:22.25miicacchome: sucks ;(
23:22.31Ellipsismiica: /die
23:22.45miicaEllipsis: you use lot mouse?
23:22.49Ellipsisno
23:22.57EllipsisI am mostly keybound
23:23.07Ellipsisnot completely though
23:23.17EllipsisI'm trying but I fear I'll never get there (locks have too many spells kknp)
23:23.23miicawhat is the addon that looks like sct but inst?
23:23.33Grumparrot
23:23.40miicaace2?
23:23.42Grumyes
23:23.44Grumand *very* good
23:23.45Hjaltemiica, you're in triumvirate on dunemaul?
23:23.59miicaHjalte: oh yes
23:24.03Ellipsisno, Parrot is not Ace2
23:24.04Mudkipzhmm I should wait for aestil to pop around here before I start messing with this script
23:24.05Ellipsisit's Rock
23:24.06Hjaltemiica, you guys still raid?
23:24.11miicaHjalte: ofc
23:24.17EllipsisMudkipz: I wrote the thing, he's innocent :P
23:24.17miicaHjalte: lady vashj atm
23:24.37Mudkipzoh
23:24.39miicaHjalte: we had little brake but we are back and we will pwn
23:24.45Mudkipzfrom what I see, hes using 3 panels with grid?
23:24.52Hjaltemiica, not bad, i have a few friends in reverence
23:24.52miicaHjalte: we arent those guild who will gquit ;D
23:24.58Mudkipzso you insert the script in all those panels?
23:25.10EllipsisMudkipz: he has three panels, that script goes on the last one
23:25.13MudkipzI only use 2 so I'll have to edit out 1 line and change the names of course
23:25.17miicawe started in demo and we are still up!
23:25.26MudkipzEllipsis ah okay
23:25.47*** join/#wowace Modulo216 (n=Turk@74-140-106-17.dhcp.insightbb.com)
23:25.53Grumis there any elegant way to extract node-data from Cartographer?
23:26.01Grum(ingame)
23:26.01Nick2AMG
23:26.23Grumi want to be able to iterate over the different databases for the current zone
23:26.37Modulo216hey guys anyone know a free dynamic dns service that has port forwarding for web? dynu sucks big time, can't find anything here
23:26.56Xinhuanthe fastest way is to grab the SavedVariable and iterate over it directly
23:26.56Nick2It's saying: "Interface\AddOns\Cartographer\Cartographer.lua:7: Library "Dewdrop-2.0" not found." but its in my addons and libs folder
23:26.57miicathey all suck but there is one finnish ;D
23:27.07miicaModulo216: w8 sec i try look one
23:27.09Xinhuanjust check the .toc file to see the savedvar
23:27.10EllipsisModulo216: try no-ip or afraid.org
23:27.16GrumNick2: i just notice it's missing a dash
23:27.21Grumit should be Dewdrop-2.0
23:27.26Modulo216no-ip has a stupid frame they throw in
23:27.30Modulo216i'll check afraid
23:27.34miicaModulo216:
23:27.34Nick2thats what it is
23:27.37EllipsisGrum, it's not missing a dash
23:27.41miicaModulo216: http://www.dy.fi/
23:27.43Xinhuanbut the .toc won't take into account which herbs/ore is being displayed/hidden
23:27.49EllipsisGrum: your client appears to be stripping dashes from incoming messages, what gives?
23:27.53Modulo216cool
23:27.57Nick2there's alreadya dash
23:28.19GrumNick2: check carto.lua line 7 ..
23:28.27Grumi have: 'local Dewdrop = Rock("Dewdrop-2.0")'
23:28.35EllipsisGrum
23:28.36Ellipsishi
23:28.36Ellipsislisten
23:28.41Ellipsisyou can't see the dash but it's there
23:28.55Ellipsisdon't confuse the poor noob
23:29.09Grumwhat's that for stupid behaviour ...
23:29.23Grum'lets not show some random characters'
23:29.50Nick2same here
23:29.52EllipsisNick2: Cart doesn't require Dewdrop anymore, when was the last time you updated?
23:29.58Grumit is using it
23:30.09Ellipsisit is?
23:30.12Nick2an hour ago.
23:30.12Grumit is
23:30.15Arcaiawhats the best Hud
23:30.24Arcaiain all your opinions [HUD]
23:30.35Ellipsisdepends what you're looking for
23:30.36GrumNick2: so you have Libs/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua in your carto dir?
23:30.41Nick2yes
23:30.42miicaANASBANGBANG
23:30.50GrumNick2: open embeds.xml
23:30.51Ellipsistoc problem imo
23:30.51XinhuanEllipsis: Carto still uses dewdrop for the zone selection
23:30.51Arcaiajust my health mana and targets health mana
23:30.52Grumis it also in there?
23:30.52miicagive me addon that does count debuff slots
23:30.56*** join/#wowace Guillotine_DC (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com)
23:30.56Arcaiai dont need numbers
23:30.58Arcaiaor percents
23:31.00Arcaiajust the bars
23:31.08Nick2yep, dewdrop is there
23:31.13Grumis that path correct?
23:31.19EllipsisArcaia: no pet bars?
23:31.28Ellipsisany HUD will work for you then >_>
23:31.47GrumNick2: try by just installing Dewdrop manually
23:31.52Xinhuani'm going to make a bet that Nick2 didn't restart wow fully, and just did reloadui
23:31.59Nick2how would that work?
23:32.01GrumXinhuan: he said he did multiple times
23:32.08GrumNick2: just use WAU and install it?
23:32.12Nick2okay
23:32.20*** join/#wowace [KzM]Fatalis (i=fatalisd@68-184-216-193.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
23:32.28GrumXinhuan: find me a nice effective way to access the different Cartographer databases please ;(
23:32.44Xinhuandifferent databases?
23:32.47Grumyeah
23:32.51Grummining/herbalism etc
23:32.51Xinhuanlike what
23:33.09Grumi can just probe their SavedVariables but that's not really the 'right way' imho
23:33.14*** join/#wowace Thrae (n=Thrae@pool-71-179-86-35.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
23:33.19Xinhuanits as simple as accessing probing the savedvar directly
23:33.34Grumbut that sucks and isnt dynamic at all
23:33.36Xinhuanif you don't like that
23:33.39*** join/#wowace ThraeBot (n=ThraeBot@pool-71-179-86-35.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
23:33.57Xinhuanthen use Cartographer:GetModule("etc etc").db.account.etc etc
23:34.08miicabtw is here guy who did chronometers?
23:34.20Grumit gets 'stored' into Carto Notes somewhere
23:34.33GrumCartographer_Notes:RegisterNotesDatabase('Herbalism', Cartographer_HerbalismDB, self)
23:35.03Xinhuanthe DB is still accessed as self.db.etc etc
23:35.05Nick2Seemed to have worked :D
23:35.07Xinhuanwithin that module
23:35.14Ellipsisplease don't use Cart_Notes' reference to access it
23:35.17Xinhuanso GetModule().db.etc etc
23:35.20Ellipsisnot everyone uses _Notes
23:35.21Nick2Now if I can find out what is screwing up the co-ords
23:35.22Xinhuanshould work
23:35.37GrumEllipsis: everyone uses _Notes
23:35.54Grumand if not .. i seriously cba as i'm making a Cartographer only plugin
23:35.57Nick2Thanks a load Grum
23:35.59Xinhuandon't you have to use _Notes to use _Herb or _Mine?
23:36.07Grumyes
23:36.08EllipsisI don't use _Notes tyvm
23:36.18Grumthen you dont have _Mining/Herbalism either
23:36.21Nick2Gotta head out to get a laptop fixed, cya around.
23:36.30Ellipsistrue
23:36.31Ellipsis>_>
23:36.38Grumnot any notes drawn on your minimap
23:36.40Grum*nor
23:36.44Grumor worldmap
23:36.49Grumas that is all hooked into _Notes
23:37.12Xinhuanwell try the method i suggested?
23:37.12Grumnext to that, Cartographer comes defaultly with _Notes
23:37.24GrumXinhuan: i can do that but then i have to manually update the list all the time
23:37.26Grumthat sucks
23:37.45Grumi see Carto notes has a externalDBs - i might be able to empty that one
23:37.55Xinhuanwell its either that roundabout GetModule().db.etc way, or accessing Savevar.etc directly
23:38.11EllipsisGrum: notes suck :P
23:38.15Grumyou suck
23:38.16Ellipsisit's a map, not a notepad
23:38.17Grum^^
23:38.19Ellipsissometimes
23:38.27Grumnot often enough then
23:38.50GrumXinhuan: well it seems i can poke into Cartographer:GetModule("Notes").externalDBs
23:39.06KarlThePaganEllipsis, have you seen the 3rd party leveling guides that use carto_notes?
23:39.19Xinhuanwell that's the thing, you have to check if _Herb and _Mine modules are there
23:39.26Grumnot really
23:39.30Xinhuansome ppl only use _Herb and not _Mine
23:39.33Xinhuanand vice versa
23:39.35Xinhuanor neither
23:39.36Grumthey register keys 'Herbalism' and 'Mining' in there
23:39.44Xinhuanthen that's even easier
23:39.51EllipsisKarlThePagan: er, no, why?
23:39.53Grumso i can just iterate all the types of nodes i find in there for the current zone
23:39.57Grumi think ^^
23:39.59KarlThePaganthey're pretty impressive
23:40.06Xinhuanyou should ask ckk
23:40.07KarlThePagannotes has its uses
23:40.08EllipsisI don't use leveling guides either >_>
23:40.17KarlThePaganthere are free ones :)
23:40.22Grumthe only problem i have now is there is no simply way of getting the unique values for a zone
23:40.25EllipsisI'm somewhat minimalist, I don't use things just because they're neat
23:40.30EllipsisI use things that I need or find useful
23:40.47Grumas the data is stored position => node_type
23:40.58Grumso i have to iterate over all the data and find the distinct node_types
23:41.10Grumme not likey!
23:41.14KarlThePagani find notes useful ;)
23:41.29Grumworldmaps without notes is like ice without flavor
23:41.43Xinhuanwell grum, there likely is a maximum of some 200 nodes per zone
23:41.45Xinhuanso not a big deal
23:41.46xyuwtf happened to wowinterface
23:41.51Xinhuanto iterate over all 200
23:41.54Grumnothing beats: http://grum.nl/images/zangarmarsh.jpg
23:42.03Grumnodes ftw!
23:42.17sblol
23:42.20ZiconKitty!
23:42.24AntiarcKody: Ping
23:42.37MudkipzEllipsis, I was wondering... you parented aestil's grid frames onto each other or all onto GridLayoutFrame ?
23:42.39syraeGrum.... wtf?
23:42.46Xinhuanif (showthis[db.zone.position]) then insertintoTSPtable end
23:42.52aestili did have something to do with it Mudkipz  :)
23:42.58Xinhuanwhere showthis[] is a table of nodes you want shown
23:43.02Xinhuanof nodetypes
23:43.13aestilthey are all parented to GridLayoutFrame
23:43.15Grumyeah just have to make that 'multi-select-dropdown'
23:43.18Grumand build a list from that
23:43.30*** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ
23:43.50aestil~seen nymbia
23:43.53purlnymbia <n=nymbia@75-166-32-125.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23h 15m 16s ago, saying: 'many times'.
23:44.11MentalPower|FoodAnyonw here know the link to the article about supporting the placement of minimap icons on non-circular minimaps?
23:44.23aestilis there any reasoin quartz resizing is limited to 5 step incriments?
23:44.33Ellipsis[4:41:09 pm] <Grum> worldmaps without notes is like ice without flavor        << couldn't have said it better myself
23:44.40Xinhuansyrae: http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/TSP3.jpg
23:44.45*** join/#wowace Grumpey (n=Grumpey@dialup-4.152.213.40.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
23:44.57CIA-2203ominous * r50192 10Tattle/ (31 files in 31 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer
23:45.11*** join/#wowace sky_ (n=chatzill@bas4-toronto63-1096693611.dsl.bell.ca)
23:45.14*** join/#wowace Saiek (i=HydraIRC@c-69-245-192-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net)
23:45.18Ellipsisso um
23:45.22syraeyes, the node path is awesome... but... man.  That was an insane image
23:45.41Ellipsisyou guys aren't planning to calculate the paths on the client, are you?
23:45.50EllipsisI mean...doesn't it make more sense to pre-calculate them?
23:45.54Xinhuani'm doing the backend TSP path generation coding algorithms, Grum's doing the UI frontend
23:46.01Xinhuani can generate the path on the fly
23:46.15Xinhuan116 nodes only took 9 seconds - in that screenshot
23:46.21Xinhuani've optimized it to some 3 secs now
23:46.35Xinhuanand plan to write a "background" generation version
23:46.43Xinhuanthat can run while you play
23:46.59Ellipsisinteresting
23:47.07Ellipsisbut why bother?
23:47.17EllipsisI mean, the paths aren't going to change while playing >_>
23:47.25Xinhuanoh they will, if you find a new node
23:47.28Xinhuanand mine it
23:47.32Xinhuanand it updates your map
23:47.48Xinhuannot everyone datamines wowhead you know?
23:47.57*** join/#wowace RogueShadowTCN (n=RogueSha@adsl-69-208-83-252.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net)
23:48.13Xinhuanalso, pregenerated paths are not ideal
23:48.16Ellipsis:/
23:48.18Ellipsisbut...
23:48.24Xinhuanfor example, today, i'm only interested in a path containing FELWEED and nothing else
23:48.27Xinhuancos i need that herb
23:48.29Ellipsisdoesn't Cart_Mine/_Herb come with datamined sets?
23:48.41Xinhuantomorrow i'm only interested in ADAMANTITE ORE and TEROCONES
23:48.44Ellipsis(I've never used it, so maybe I'm thinking about this all wrong)
23:48.49Xinhuanso generate me a path with only those 2 things
23:49.21syraeAs long as the pathing ties in with Waypoints, I'd use it. ^_^
23:49.24Xinhuanthe next day, i find that i lack dreamfoil to make flasks, so generate a path for that, etc
23:49.30EllipsisI get the point Xinhuan
23:49.39Xinhuangrum is going to add a way to include in whatever waypoints you want
23:49.50RogueShadowTCNPath's for the best gathering route's?
23:49.52Ellipsisbut even the "not quite ideal" pre-computed paths would be pretty good
23:50.01Ellipsisand you didn't answer my question
23:50.05Xinhuanbut the whole backend of it is reliant on carto_notes
23:50.39Xinhuanthe problem with precalculated paths is that if you supply such a path, everyone's going to use that path
23:50.49Ellipsisso? not everyone uses Cart
23:50.59Xinhuanby using a algorithm that generates a "near optimal" but random path, at least everyone's path will be somewhat different
23:51.00Grumi dont care for non cartusers
23:51.24Grumi dont even care for users of my addon ^^
23:51.34XinhuanTSP is a NP-hard problem
23:51.38Grum'I want to have feature X' - good .. /ignore
23:51.44Grum/cheer
23:52.08Xinhuananyway, Grum's screenshot IS precalculated paths ;p
23:52.11Ellipsisok, someone tell me: do Cart_Herb and Cart_Mine come with data? and if so, is it not a complete data set mined from wowhead?
23:52.12aestilso, the PitBullFrame2 is created when you enter combat, although its not visible.  any other places to parent my BT3BarPET panels too?
23:52.23XinhuanEllipsis: they don't come with any data.
23:52.28Grumno Ellipsis, they dont
23:52.29Ellipsisoh
23:52.34EllipsisNOW it makes sense
23:52.38HjalteEllipsis: You can however get data with Cartographer_Data
23:52.39hyperChipmunkEllipsis: they don't come with one, i don't believe; but we do have some on the svn or forums or something
23:52.41Grumand yes i have a complete data-set from wowhead
23:52.42Xinhuanbut when you mine/herb stuff, it adds the location to the database
23:52.43aestilyou can't d/l it, but more people than not probably don't do that.
23:52.48Xinhuanbut you can also datamine from wowhead
23:52.58*** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=Aeyan@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com)
23:53.11Ellipsisaestil: I think you might be wrong...did you try anchoring to the pet frame?
23:53.18Ellipsisit could be the anchoring that's making it show up in combat
23:53.23Xinhuanthere are complete dataminer scripts on addonsites and i think even wowace, nto sure on that one
23:53.35aestilPitBullFrame2 is my pet frame
23:53.49Ellipsisyou said you were parenting to that and anchoring to the BT3 bar
23:53.49Xinhuanand people have made EXE progreams that can export/import all your cartographer notes and databases from one account to another
23:53.56Ellipsisdid you try anchorring to the same frame you are parenting to
23:54.07aestilwait, no, i parented to the pet frame, but anchored to the BT3BarPET
23:54.10aestili thought that would be ok.
23:54.13Ellipsisok guys, way overkill on the responses...
23:54.14aestil: /
23:54.19Ellipsisall I needed was a simple no
23:54.30Ellipsisand now I understand the situation and why you're doing it the way you are, so you can all just stop now :P
23:54.59Grumwhoooo
23:55.00Ellipsisaestil: try it and see
23:55.17EllipsisI said the anchoring to BT3 would "probably" work
23:55.28Xinhuanthere are problems with data mining from websites -- people can submit false info
23:55.45EllipsisXinhuan: with all due respect, stfu :P
23:55.52Xinhuan~lart Ellipsis
23:55.52purlexecutes killall -KILL Ellipsis
23:55.56EllipsisXD
23:55.58Ellipsis<3
23:56.19Xinhuanwant to argue about whether WotLK is a waste of money again today? :)
23:56.36aestilyes, but that failed.
23:56.36Ellipsissure, but can we do it on vent? my hands are sore already
23:56.39Ellipsis....from typing.
23:56.40Ellipsiscrap
23:56.48Xinhuannot going to use vent at 7am ;p
23:56.54Ellipsisthen clearly you fail
23:57.02CIA-2203siz * r50193 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/AddonSpamFu.lua:
23:57.02CIA-22FuBar_AddonSpamFu:
23:57.02CIA-22- Fix ability to save options? (drycoded) thanks Funkydude
23:57.03Grumnoooo
23:57.04GrumMessage: ..\AddOns\Cartographer_Routes\Core.lua line 666:
23:57.08Ellipsisev0l error
23:57.09Grumerror on line 666! :'(
23:57.14CIA-2203aliset * r50194 10StatFrameLib/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
23:57.14CIA-22StatFrameLib:
23:57.14CIA-22- Misc changes so that things actually work
23:57.14Grumdeleting the addon
23:57.22EllipsisGrum: just sell your soul for a fix
23:57.48Grumyou want it?
23:57.49Grum12c
23:57.49CIA-2203daviesh * r50195 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
23:57.49CIA-22AtlasLoot:
23:57.49CIA-22- v4.01.05 for Atlas 1.10.2
23:58.03Ellipsiskeep the change
23:58.34Grumwhoo fixed bug
23:58.48Ellipsisso my Interface dir is 16MB
23:59.02Ellipsisand almost 5% of that is the Cart_Waypoints arrow art
23:59.04Ellipsisy u do dat
23:59.18Grumhehe
23:59.22aestilEllipsis: its possible that i'm stupid.  will you still love me?
23:59.26Ellipsismaybe
23:59.27Ellipsishow stupid
23:59.28Ellipsis:P
23:59.33GrumO M G
23:59.41GrumSize on disk: 97.6 MB (102,445,056 bytes)
23:59.52Ellipsislulz Grum
23:59.57aestilPitBullFrame2 != PitBullUnitFrame2

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.