| 00:00.11 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@c-24-30-17-122.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 00:00.19 | techs | Ellipsis can u help? |
| 00:00.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49488 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 add a possible fix for stratas not coming back correctly. |
| 00:00.54 | Ellipsis | I don't use Squeenix |
| 00:01.01 | Ellipsis | so I don't really know how to work with it |
| 00:01.20 | techs | damn ! |
| 00:01.21 | hyperChipmunk | Shirik: oh now that's handy |
| 00:01.27 | Shirik | :) |
| 00:01.36 | hyperChipmunk | techs: /squeenix lock and /squeenix scale, I believe |
| 00:01.39 | Shirik | I put that in a while ago when I got sick of people telling that :P |
| 00:01.51 | Ellipsis | ckknight, does [TalentSpec] on the player unit just check talents directly, or does it go through RockComm as well? |
| 00:01.56 | hyperChipmunk | oh, it's mapscale, not scale |
| 00:01.56 | techs | if it work ill marry you :D |
| 00:02.15 | hyperChipmunk | e.g. /squeenix mapscale 75 |
| 00:02.20 | ckknight | Ellipsis: goes through RockComm, but whispers to player don't function like normal whispers, they happen instantaneously |
| 00:02.27 | Ellipsis | righto |
| 00:02.36 | Ellipsis | was just wondering if seeing talents on my self meant something was working |
| 00:02.43 | ckknight | well, yes. |
| 00:02.57 | Ellipsis | then so far so good! :D |
| 00:04.20 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 00:04.20 | hyperChipmunk | techs: if you want to see all the options, just type /squeenix and it'll list them |
| 00:04.39 | hyperChipmunk | the same holds true for most addons |
| 00:04.41 | Ellipsis | my group leader was assigning icons and said "condium is trap" - any guesses as to which he's referring to? |
| 00:04.47 | techs | when i type /squeenix nothing happens |
| 00:04.54 | techs | tryed hundred times |
| 00:04.59 | hyperChipmunk | well that's a problem >8p |
| 00:05.39 | hyperChipmunk | if you type /dump Squeenix, do you get a whole bunch of stuff in your chatbox? |
| 00:05.51 | hyperChipmunk | oh, also make sure you're looking at the main chat window |
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| 00:09.21 | techs | it works |
| 00:09.41 | techs | yeh im not so stupid :D |
| 00:10.15 | hyperChipmunk | hey, i'm just tryin' ta help |
| 00:11.23 | hyperChipmunk | the /dump Squeenix works, but /squeenix does not? |
| 00:12.36 | Ellipsis | ooh I figured it out |
| 00:12.45 | Ellipsis | "condium" = "condom" = circle |
| 00:12.59 | Ellipsis | clever |
| 00:13.33 | Corgan | lol |
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| 00:18.08 | Silowyi | I want to make a mod that ignores tells from anyone lower than lvl 70 |
| 00:18.41 | Stan__ | lol |
| 00:19.12 | Stan__ | in WIM you can set the spamblocker to lvl 70 |
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| 00:19.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:19.32 | Ellipsis | as long as it blocks guildies but not friends, that's cool wih me |
| 00:19.34 | Ellipsis | with* |
| 00:19.46 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 00:19.48 | ckknight | on a stable connection now |
| 00:19.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49489 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - actually fix the issue where the close button became obscured and unclickable |
| 00:20.35 | Ellipsis | lies ckknight |
| 00:20.42 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:20.44 | ckknight | NO U |
| 00:20.49 | Silowyi | 10*** ckknight Quit (Connection reset by peer) |
| 00:21.00 | Ellipsis | it's still roadrunner, that means there's no guaranteeing stability :P |
| 00:21.05 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:21.08 | ckknight | true. |
| 00:21.12 | ckknight | but now I have a wire |
| 00:21.45 | Corgan | stupid roadrunner :( |
| 00:22.27 | Corgan | why does is feel so late in the day... |
| 00:22.33 | Corgan | it's only 2:30 D: |
| 00:22.37 | Stan__ | it's 2:22 am :P |
| 00:22.41 | Silowyi | then I switched to Grande Cable here in San Antonio |
| 00:22.48 | Corgan | 2:30PM :) |
| 00:23.05 | Silowyi | Grande > RR |
| 00:23.05 | Stan__ | am here :P |
| 00:23.06 | Ellipsis | 5:30pm...and I've been awake around 26? 28 hours? |
| 00:23.40 | Ellipsis | huh, cool |
| 00:23.51 | Ellipsis | I shadowbolt crit myself and had Shadow Vulnerability |
| 00:23.52 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 00:25.20 | Ellipsis | I think it actually affected the healing I got back from my reflected Siphon Life, too...that's hax |
| 00:25.53 | kaelten | sorry about the forums there, should be all better now |
| 00:26.47 | kaelten | site should feel faster now though |
| 00:27.53 | ckknight | techs: don't do that |
| 00:28.08 | techs | wich one? |
| 00:28.11 | Gnarfoz | auto-away |
| 00:28.18 | Gnarfoz | with public announcement |
| 00:28.20 | Gnarfoz | in color, even :D |
| 00:28.20 | techs | its script |
| 00:28.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah, disable it? :) |
| 00:28.26 | ckknight | yea, so turn it off |
| 00:28.33 | techs | ill try |
| 00:28.34 | techs | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.34 | Ellipsis | try? |
| 00:29.43 | Ellipsis | what is it, NNScript or something? >_> |
| 00:30.01 | techs | just irc |
| 00:30.05 | techs | on my sister |
| 00:30.06 | techs | ff |
| 00:30.10 | Ellipsis | sounds kinky |
| 00:30.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49490 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 00:30.15 | CIA-22 | LibRockConfig-1.0 - ROCK-45 |
| 00:30.15 | CIA-22 | - indent submenus a bit more. |
| 00:30.15 | Corgan | I'll irc all over your sister |
| 00:30.21 | RogueShadow | Madam1 Script ? |
| 00:30.36 | techs | Corgan u r verry funny u know? |
| 00:30.42 | Ellipsis | no version reply...neat |
| 00:30.51 | Corgan | I actually do know that |
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| 00:31.06 | techs | but u r not so smart |
| 00:31.11 | techs | thats the shit |
| 00:31.22 | Corgan | I speak in complete sentences and type out full words. |
| 00:31.28 | Corgan | You irc on your sister. |
| 00:31.36 | techs | i really dont give a shit... |
| 00:31.46 | techs | better now? |
| 00:31.48 | Corgan | wanders* |
| 00:32.04 | Corgan | curse you r key, always escaping my grasp |
| 00:32.15 | techs | so |
| 00:32.27 | techs | if you are talking for my sister....than |
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| 00:32.58 | techs | ill burn your mother`s pussy with the juice of your melted head.... |
| 00:33.15 | Ellipsis | ..umm, that's not really appropriate, techs |
| 00:33.37 | techs | i dont like to someone talk for my sister.... |
| 00:33.41 | techs | understood...?! |
| 00:34.48 | ckknight | stop while you're behind |
| 00:34.51 | Corgan | lol |
| 00:35.22 | ckknight | and Corgan does have the upper hand, using grammar and all |
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| 00:37.37 | Corey | in the end all that matters is bacon |
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| 00:40.18 | RogueShadow | What about cheese? |
| 00:40.32 | Gnarfoz | bacon > cheese |
| 00:40.43 | Gnarfoz | but if you have cheese, don't let it go to waste! |
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| 00:40.57 | RogueShadow | But.. Lard > Bacon ? |
| 00:41.49 | Fatalis`timeout | bacon flavored toothpicks > all |
| 00:41.51 | Fatalis`timeout | http://www.mcphee.com/items/11723.html |
| 00:42.04 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc |
| 00:43.04 | Stan__ | http://stage6.divx.com/user/V3loxy/video/1511359/WOW-Haste-rating-Tests |
| 00:43.07 | Stan__ | that is so insane |
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| 00:47.59 | Antiarc | Holy shit@ that haste video |
| 00:48.12 | Stan__ | 18k dps |
| 00:48.31 | Antiarc | I mean, private server and all, but things looked properly specced out |
| 00:48.43 | Stan__ | yup |
| 00:49.08 | RogueShadow | that haste vid was funny. hehe. |
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| 00:49.36 | RogueShadow | A lvl 1 can't handle the power! He'll burn up! |
| 00:49.44 | mikma | oh i just loooooove those "LOOK AT ME I AM AWAY" messages |
| 00:49.57 | RogueShadow | I guess he never figured it out eh |
| 00:50.04 | Funkeh` | Stop being bitter and get back in your hole mikma |
| 00:50.13 | mikma | Funkeh`: ok |
| 00:50.21 | JoshBorke | ~lart Antiarc |
| 00:50.21 | purl | changes Antiarc's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 00:50.26 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: fix threat |
| 00:50.29 | Antiarc | wut |
| 00:50.57 | Funkeh` | fuck off with the colours, lol |
| 00:51.07 | kenlyric | so you want more colors? |
| 00:51.12 | techs | sry syr |
| 00:51.14 | techs | sry |
| 00:51.16 | techs | i leave |
| 00:51.25 | techs | ill delete that fuckin irc |
| 00:51.28 | Funkeh` | techs: no need lol |
| 00:51.39 | Ellipsis | no no Funkeh` |
| 00:51.40 | techs | cant found the option |
| 00:51.43 | kenlyric | victory! |
| 00:51.44 | Ellipsis | please, make him delete his irc |
| 00:51.54 | Funkeh` | You guys are evil |
| 00:52.05 | Stan__ | 13 mmmmmm |
| 00:52.06 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: kick mikma |
| 00:52.09 | kenlyric | don't forget to delete the drive too. |
| 00:52.24 | mikma | kick JoshBorke too! |
| 00:52.38 | techs | so |
| 00:52.42 | techs | nighty night all :D |
| 00:52.58 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 00:53.30 | Funkeh` | lol quit message |
| 00:53.33 | espai | isnt there a cap of 1s on haste? |
| 00:53.46 | espai | i mean, haste can only bring your attack speed to 1s, no less? |
| 00:54.18 | Corgan | that would screw over druids |
| 00:54.59 | espai | yeah |
| 00:55.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [02:50] <JoshBorke> Antiarc: fix threat |
| 00:55.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [02:50] <+Antiarc> wut |
| 00:55.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i second that motion. |
| 00:55.56 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. the script did nothing, Antiarc. |
| 00:56.08 | Antiarc | okay, good to know. :/ |
| 00:56.23 | Ellipsis | I dunno why you guys are complaining |
| 00:56.34 | Ellipsis | I'm using it right now, having no problems, and finding it to be quite accurate |
| 00:56.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis because your mom gives bad hea... no wait, your mom jokes are lame. |
| 00:56.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: it's a rare bug |
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| 00:56.56 | sag_ich_nicht | that is damn annoying |
| 00:57.05 | Ellipsis | then why do so many people seem to have it? |
| 00:57.16 | sag_ich_nicht | some of them don't |
| 00:57.31 | sag_ich_nicht | they just have broken installs |
| 00:57.32 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 00:57.36 | sag_ich_nicht | but some don't |
| 00:57.37 | sag_ich_nicht | like me |
| 00:57.37 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 00:57.46 | Ellipsis | aren't you special |
| 00:57.56 | sag_ich_nicht | |stan| had it too! |
| 00:58.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: disabling/enabling causes... strange behaviour when the bug happened |
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| 00:58.35 | sag_ich_nicht | threat doesn't reset back afterwards(only after a timeout that i guess you have integrated) and kind of "sticks" |
| 00:58.44 | sag_ich_nicht | (after a mob is dead, that is) |
| 00:59.48 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 00:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 00:59.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i go to bed now |
| 00:59.53 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
| 01:00.01 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you find time to test it today, Antiarc :X |
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| 01:00.02 | sag_ich_nicht | nn |
| 01:00.54 | Ellipsis | ooh, I'm starting to hallucinate |
| 01:01.16 | Stan__ | yeah I head it, fixed it be reinstalled all addons that uses Threat und Threat itself |
| 01:01.30 | Stan__ | + deleting all saved vars from that addons |
| 01:01.43 | Stan__ | head? wtf...HAD |
| 01:01.47 | Stan__ | time for bed |
| 01:01.49 | Stan__ | bbl |
| 01:02.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 01:02.06 | sag_ich_nicht | stan |
| 01:02.09 | sag_ich_nicht | head is correct. |
| 01:02.16 | sag_ich_nicht | but you weren't supposed to |
| 01:02.18 | sag_ich_nicht | well nvm |
| 01:02.21 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway that doesn't fix it |
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| 01:02.24 | sag_ich_nicht | now GOOD NIGHT. |
| 01:02.32 | Stan__ | kthxbye :P |
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| 01:10.53 | Ellipsis | well, I lived through the first third of that boss... |
| 01:11.10 | Ellipsis | guess I should actually not DPS when my threat is higher than the tank's |
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| 01:12.49 | Antiarc | Things that are awesome: BOE level 60 blues from LBRS selling for more than level 70 BOE blues from Mechanar. |
| 01:13.06 | Antiarc | Beaststalker gloves are going for 100g+ on my server for some ungodly reason |
| 01:13.13 | Antiarc | And I can solo farm them while farming shards. |
| 01:13.16 | Antiarc | <3 |
| 01:13.20 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 01:13.23 | Thrae | !p beaststalker gloves |
| 01:13.23 | ThraeBot | Thrae: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 01:13.33 | Antiarc | !p beaststalker gauntlets |
| 01:13.33 | ThraeBot | Antiarc: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 01:13.37 | Antiarc | hrm |
| 01:13.52 | Thrae | !p Beaststalker Gauntlets |
| 01:13.52 | ThraeBot | Thrae: I just said that 19s ago. |
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| 01:13.57 | Ellipsis | !p beaststalker gloves |
| 01:13.58 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 01:14.00 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 01:14.02 | Thrae | Antiarc: What's your server? |
| 01:14.07 | Antiarc | Cenarion Circle |
| 01:14.19 | Thrae | !p beaststalker gloves; cenarion circle |
| 01:14.20 | ThraeBot | Thrae: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 01:14.41 | Thrae | Ohhhhh |
| 01:14.47 | Thrae | !p beaststalker's gloves |
| 01:14.48 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Beaststalker's Gloves; Vendor: 1g 42s 68c; Deposit (24h): 85s 60c; Auction (All): 39g 60s; Disenchant (All): 8g 80s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 01:14.55 | Thrae | !p beaststalker's gloves; cenarion circle |
| 01:14.56 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Beaststalker's Gloves; Vendor: 1g 42s 68c; Deposit (24h): 85s 60c; Auction (Cenarion Circle): 60g; Auction (All): 39g 60s; Disenchant (Cenarion Circle): 10g 1s; Disenchant (All): 8g 80s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 01:16.46 | Ellipsis | it's kinda like the Crusader enchant pattern that someone's been trying to sell on my server |
| 01:16.50 | Ellipsis | for like 300-500g |
| 01:16.57 | Ellipsis | when it would probably take a matter of hours to farm at 70 |
| 01:17.06 | Antiarc | Man, screw that formula |
| 01:17.09 | Ellipsis | srsly^ |
| 01:17.10 | Antiarc | I farmed for it for MONTHS. |
| 01:17.24 | Antiarc | My brother got it on a kill on a mob that he aggroed on his way to a quest mob. |
| 01:17.30 | NavrasUS | is ckknight around? |
| 01:17.41 | ckknight | I have never left you, child |
| 01:17.41 | Ellipsis | that sucks Antiarc |
| 01:17.46 | NavrasUS | lol |
| 01:17.48 | Antiarc | I never saw it drop. I ended up buying it. :/ |
| 01:18.32 | NavrasUS | just curious as to whether the feature i requested in Parrot would be something added anytime soon? Having the Skill Cooldown Finish notification have an option for Minimum Cooldown? |
| 01:18.52 | Ellipsis | you didn't get it from him, Antiarc? |
| 01:18.58 | Ellipsis | or was he an enchanter too or something |
| 01:18.59 | Antiarc | No, he's an enchanter as well |
| 01:19.02 | Ellipsis | laaaaaame |
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| 01:34.46 | hyperChipmunk | .... |
| 01:35.32 | hyperChipmunk | i go away for 30m and this turns into quakenet |
| 01:35.59 | Mudkipz | but quakenet is full of eurofgs |
| 01:36.22 | aestil | antiarc, is that change you made so the shadowfiend doesn't stay in the threat list after combat is over? |
| 01:37.31 | ckknight | NavrasUS: did you put it in jira? |
| 01:37.37 | NavrasUS | yeah |
| 01:37.44 | ckknight | then you wait |
| 01:38.02 | NavrasUS | k, was jc |
| 01:38.30 | Antiarc | Among others, aestil |
| 01:38.40 | aestil | thank you for that. |
| 01:39.28 | aestil | secondly, you know, there's this thing, i refer to it as a 'threat pullout bar', I'm not sure what its actually callled, but its probably the best feature of omen, IMHO even better than per mob threat tracking.... |
| 01:39.49 | Ellipsis | it makes me happy in the pants tbh |
| 01:40.34 | Mudkipz | :/ |
| 01:40.41 | Mudkipz | recountfu doesn't show on fubar? |
| 01:40.54 | aestil | antiarc knows what I want. GIVE IT TO ME ANTIARC!!!! :) |
| 01:40.59 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 01:42.24 | aestil | [let me change font size, and colors of threat pull out bar] |
| 01:44.12 | Mudkipz | T_T |
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| 01:46.59 | [gk]Hotphoenix | Cartographer_Herbalism\addon.lua:110: Bad argument #4 to `NewModule'. "AceEvent-2.0" is an unknown library. |
| 01:47.13 | [gk]Hotphoenix | anyone know why i'm getting that in a pile of cart mods? |
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| 01:57.09 | Arcaia | ! |
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| 02:02.52 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r49491 10beql/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:02.52 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 02:02.52 | CIA-22 | - Core: Fixed a nil error with QuestHistory |
| 02:02.52 | CIA-22 | - Core: Added Alt Tab compatibility with QuestHistory |
| 02:02.52 | CIA-22 | - Core: Added Control variable for GetQuestLogTitle() hook (this fixes some incompatibilities with other mods) |
| 02:02.52 | CIA-22 | - Core: Fixed a nil Error caused by the "force update from Tracker Update" in Quixote |
| 02:02.54 | CIA-22 | - History: More things are working :) |
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| 02:08.34 | Mudkipz | do I need to install something other than grid itself to see raid members with a missing buff? |
| 02:08.55 | Mudkipz | motw for example |
| 02:09.14 | mexicaan | Hi, is there a mod that can align text in a chatframe right to left, instead of left to right? |
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| 02:09.27 | aestil | prat has a module for that, mexicaan |
| 02:09.30 | ckknight | aestil: alright, gonna figure out the damn Crayon problem |
| 02:09.49 | aestil | ok. |
| 02:10.01 | aestil | i'm 20 min delayed |
| 02:10.18 | Ellipsis | ooh I found someone whose talents I could see! |
| 02:10.19 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 02:10.29 | aestil | its fun right ellipsis? |
| 02:10.47 | Ellipsis | yarly! |
| 02:10.53 | Ellipsis | I'm so ninja |
| 02:11.04 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:11.06 | mexicaan | aestil: Found the module, thanks |
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| 02:11.17 | Arcaia | any news on vertical health/power >.> |
| 02:12.23 | aestil | i've never seen anyone say that they would do that. you mean for pitbull right? |
| 02:13.59 | Ellipsis | it's a buttload of work, I don't know of anyone who wants to take it on |
| 02:14.55 | Ellipsis | and it would probably require a lot of collaboration with ckknight...who would want to do that? :P |
| 02:15.16 | ckknight | Arcaia: it's so hard :-( |
| 02:15.23 | ckknight | doesn't fit into the current layout system |
| 02:15.27 | ckknight | I'd have to rewrite so much |
| 02:15.33 | *** join/#wowace Failquail (n=Failquai@60.242.121.138) |
| 02:15.35 | ckknight | and my current goal is to get everything working now |
| 02:15.39 | ckknight | I have another project I want to start |
| 02:15.42 | aestil | not break that? |
| 02:15.48 | Sole | just watched blood diamond again |
| 02:15.53 | Sole | its even better the 2nd time |
| 02:16.05 | ckknight | aestil: found the bug |
| 02:16.14 | ckknight | OnLoadLibrary => OnLibraryLoad |
| 02:16.15 | ckknight | durr |
| 02:16.22 | aestil | ckknight: nice :) |
| 02:16.34 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. did someone ping me at some point? o_0 |
| 02:16.43 | Ellipsis | gg ckknight |
| 02:16.47 | aestil | i figured it was something small like that. You also where getting it then? it wasn't like just me and my computer? |
| 02:17.01 | Ellipsis | it was the gnomes again |
| 02:17.13 | Ellipsis | you gotta watch out for them |
| 02:17.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49492 10LibCrayon-3.0/LibCrayon-3.0.lua: LibCrayon-3.0 - fix issue with compat layer. |
| 02:17.41 | aestil | i have a female gnome rogue : / |
| 02:17.48 | aestil | she's very nice and honest! |
| 02:17.56 | Ellipsis | noooo I lost my talentful warrior! |
| 02:18.00 | Ellipsis | where did he go =[ |
| 02:18.07 | ckknight | Ellipsis: lol |
| 02:18.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49493 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0 - fix compat layer |
| 02:18.24 | aestil | did you open template mode and then do 'rock query' 'name'? |
| 02:18.29 | ckknight | Ellipsis: I really should add the ability to get the name of the talent spec |
| 02:18.32 | aestil | cause you don't have to be near him. |
| 02:18.37 | ckknight | for DogTag, that is |
| 02:18.48 | aestil | ckknight, if blizzard did it for the armory, it can't be that hard. |
| 02:18.56 | ckknight | I know it isn't |
| 02:18.59 | ckknight | it's just about translations |
| 02:19.03 | ckknight | which I have ;-) |
| 02:19.05 | ckknight | so booyah |
| 02:19.08 | aestil | just make some logic for 31+ pts to be a name if its a given tree. |
| 02:19.17 | aestil | x / x |
| 02:19.20 | aestil | holy/disc |
| 02:19.21 | ckknight | no, highest number is the name |
| 02:19.24 | *** part/#wowace zeeg (n=zeeg@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:19.27 | aestil | right. |
| 02:19.34 | Ellipsis | aestil, I'm just trying it out with CowTip...I don't use Talented |
| 02:19.37 | aestil | but most builds are hybrids. |
| 02:19.44 | ckknight | hybridization will occur if one other tree is ≥75% of the highest tree |
| 02:19.49 | Wobin_ | http://www.gucomics.com/comics/2007/gu_20070919.jpg |
| 02:19.53 | aestil | ellipsis 'cowtips' implimentation of it is nothign compared to talenteds. |
| 02:20.01 | Ellipsis | yeah I know |
| 02:20.11 | aestil | yeah, like Disc / Holy priests are very common for PvP. |
| 02:20.14 | Ellipsis | but like I said, I don't have Talented, and I don't really feel like trying out a new addon right now |
| 02:20.25 | aestil | ah. |
| 02:20.26 | Ellipsis | I'm quite close to passing out on the keyborad, rather not mess up my UI |
| 02:20.31 | ckknight | does 75% seem good, btw? |
| 02:20.32 | aestil | well, it makes your talents in game look like wowheads. |
| 02:20.49 | ckknight | so 0/41/20 isn't considered a hybrid, but 0/34/27 would be |
| 02:20.51 | Ellipsis | yeah I'm familiar with it aestil just don't see much use for it |
| 02:21.02 | Ellipsis | though with this integration.... |
| 02:21.11 | aestil | you must not respec ellipsis. |
| 02:21.12 | Ellipsis | if enough people are broadcasting the data I might download Talented just for that =[ |
| 02:21.19 | aestil | yeah, ckk. that makes sense. |
| 02:21.25 | Ellipsis | aestil: I've respecced three times, two were free |
| 02:21.30 | aestil | probably 41/20 shoudln't be a hybrid. |
| 02:21.42 | aestil | ellipsis: you should PvP in arena.s you get good gear for free. |
| 02:21.56 | aestil | although, i'd like the option for the hybridization period. |
| 02:22.05 | Ellipsis | I don't PvP |
| 02:22.10 | aestil | for example, a 10/5/41 prot tank is 'protection' |
| 02:22.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Couldn't you just say if there's any tree with 40+ points, it's not a hybrid? |
| 02:22.30 | aestil | sorry, edit that to 10/10/41 |
| 02:22.41 | aestil | but a hunter who is 0/41/20 might be marks/survival |
| 02:23.02 | Ellipsis | 41/20 and 40/21 are hybrids with a primary tree, IMO |
| 02:23.16 | Ellipsis | and should be listed as primary/secondary, if possible |
| 02:23.17 | aestil | it'd be nice to know, at a name glance [if you didn't want the number dog tag, and just the name] that it was a marks hunter that has extra range and better traps. |
| 02:24.18 | Arcaia | cow tip has vertical hp/ power>.> |
| 02:24.33 | Ellipsis | so use that Arcaia...and let us know how it works out for you :P |
| 02:24.59 | Ellipsis | the real difficulty of veritcal bars isn't the bars thsemselves, it's fitting them into the layout scheme in PitBull, which is practically the best part of the addon |
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| 02:25.51 | Ellipsis | vertical, even |
| 02:26.23 | aestil | ckknight, i requested the talent stuff to be put in blizzards UI thing, in the UI forum, in the request thread. I got no response and its all the way to page 3! |
| 02:26.36 | Ellipsis | didn't ckknight already request that? >_> |
| 02:26.44 | ckknight | aestil: link |
| 02:26.44 | JoshBorke | ;supposedly ckknight had done that before but was denied |
| 02:26.46 | ckknight | Ellipsis: long time ago |
| 02:26.47 | aestil | i requested it again! |
| 02:26.56 | ckknight | maybe they'll have changed their mind |
| 02:27.00 | Ellipsis | hopefully |
| 02:27.07 | ckknight | link me! |
| 02:27.10 | JoshBorke | doubtfully |
| 02:27.11 | Ellipsis | so stupid that everything's available on the armory |
| 02:27.27 | Ellipsis | but in-game? nooo, import a datamined table! |
| 02:27.35 | aestil | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523&sid=1&pageNo=14 |
| 02:27.46 | JoshBorke | being a local table means you aren't increasing the load on the server |
| 02:27.49 | Arcaia | 7/0/53 = prot ;P |
| 02:27.59 | Arcaia | 8/0/53* |
| 02:28.32 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke, if you don't count the armory servers... |
| 02:28.49 | Ellipsis | it's all just more data to Blizz :/ |
| 02:29.19 | Ellipsis | hell, they're putting voip in...if they were really that concerned about server load.... |
| 02:31.43 | aestil | ckknight, did my request make sense enough to be reasonable? |
| 02:31.58 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:34.40 | CIA-22 | 03ananhaid * r49494 10Violation/locales/zhTW.lua: |
| 02:34.40 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 02:34.40 | CIA-22 | Add missed locales/zhTW.lua |
| 02:36.37 | ckknight | okay, what do I call it when someone has 3 trees which are all pretty close? |
| 02:37.02 | aestil | crazy? |
| 02:37.04 | RogueShadow | Jack of all Trades? |
| 02:37.10 | Kemayo | Balanced? |
| 02:37.23 | RogueShadow | Balanced is shorter, crazy is good too. |
| 02:37.34 | aestil | it would have to be really close, like, they would have to take no 31 pt talent in any tre. |
| 02:37.39 | ckknight | Balance is a druid tree |
| 02:37.48 | Kemayo | So's your mother. |
| 02:37.49 | ulic | hybrid is what blizz calls it. |
| 02:37.51 | RogueShadow | True, that would be confusing. |
| 02:38.00 | ckknight | ulic: hybrid is 2 things... |
| 02:38.03 | aestil | like you'r etalkinga bout 20/21/30? |
| 02:38.06 | aestil | or something like that? |
| 02:38.10 | aestil | or wait. |
| 02:38.12 | aestil | 20/21/20 |
| 02:38.17 | ckknight | yea, sure |
| 02:38.17 | RogueShadow | Hybrid can be more than one thing can't it? |
| 02:38.19 | Kemayo | Hybrid would work for three |
| 02:38.25 | ckknight | I suppose... |
| 02:38.27 | aestil | yeah, just say 'hyrbrid. |
| 02:38.29 | Arcaia | 31/0/30 = rogue hybrid |
| 02:38.43 | aestil | but the caveat to get that, would be someone not taking any 31 pt talents. |
| 02:38.46 | RogueShadow | The only other option is to call them crazy really. |
| 02:38.56 | aestil | no, that would be assaination/subetlty arcaia |
| 02:38.57 | ckknight | ac |
| 02:39.08 | Ellipsis | IMO, 2-tree hybrids should show primary/secondary and 3-tree would just be "hybrid" :/ |
| 02:39.12 | ckknight | if they have only 2 trees, it'll show Primary/Secondary |
| 02:39.16 | Arcaia | 27/34/0 |
| 02:39.31 | aestil | combat/assinatin |
| 02:40.07 | aestil | the smart thing to do would be to let it see talents ckk, and have it say 'combat daggers' or 'combat swords' |
| 02:40.13 | aestil | that would be WICKED |
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| 02:40.24 | ckknight | wicked and too much work |
| 02:40.34 | aestil | come on. puhleeze |
| 02:40.44 | Arcaia | you cant see talent builds from in game? |
| 02:40.50 | Ellipsis | think of the time spent doing that for evey class aestil |
| 02:40.52 | Arcaia | aestil -> 31/0/30 |
| 02:41.01 | Arcaia | = Deadliness / Coldblood/QR |
| 02:41.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49495 10LibCrayon-3.0/LibCrayon-3.0.lua: LibCrayon-3.0 - numbers ftl |
| 02:41.07 | Arcaia | Arena dagger spec |
| 02:41.08 | Ellipsis | and not everyone agrees on the important "defining" talents or they can be different for PvE/PvP |
| 02:41.23 | Arcaia | doing 8-9k damage in 5 seconds |
| 02:41.52 | sb | 8k dmg? thats 1s for mages ;p |
| 02:42.14 | Seerah | only if you're haxxoring ;) |
| 02:42.15 | ckknight | what do I call the tag? |
| 02:42.18 | ckknight | btw |
| 02:42.30 | Ellipsis | [SpecName] or something |
| 02:42.41 | ckknight | [TalentTree]? |
| 02:42.43 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:42.51 | Ellipsis | do you just disagree to disagree? :P |
| 02:42.56 | Arcaia | --> Ambush = 3-4k, backstab =2k, coldblood evisc = 1-2k, + white damage |
| 02:43.07 | Seerah | what if they are even? 20/0/20 f.e.? |
| 02:43.24 | Seerah | armory differentiates between say... Frost and Hybrid |
| 02:43.27 | Ellipsis | true...non-70s will be tough |
| 02:43.36 | ckknight | Ellipsis: well, I can't in good sense take advice from a woman, now can I? |
| 02:43.38 | Seerah | or 1/1/1 |
| 02:43.39 | ckknight | that'd show weakness |
| 02:43.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:43.51 | Ellipsis | even numbers of talent points should just be ignored, and they should display "gnome n00b" instead |
| 02:44.06 | Ellipsis | i see your point ckknight, carry on |
| 02:44.07 | Seerah | *sniff* I'm a gnome |
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| 02:44.34 | Corgan | head |
| 02:44.36 | Corgan | bloops |
| 02:44.50 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 02:45.02 | Corgan | focus left the status window |
| 02:45.07 | Corgan | was typing /join #wowhead |
| 02:45.07 | Corgan | :( |
| 02:45.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 02:45.30 | Ellipsis | there's an option for that :P |
| 02:46.13 | Inc` | Is it just me, or does rock sometimes bug out and not let you close it? |
| 02:46.19 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r49496 10beql/extra/ (questhistory.lua questhistory.xml): beql: - History: Fixed the Scrollbar |
| 02:46.30 | RogueShadow | My highest guy was a gnome for a long time, then I switched servers.... |
| 02:46.36 | RogueShadow | gnome rogue. small, deadly. |
| 02:46.48 | Corgan | I know there's an option :p |
| 02:47.00 | Ellipsis | yeah Inc`, known issue |
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| 02:47.34 | Inc` | Also, not sure if it's just me, but my textures seem to bug out as well if anything focuses over them, like say, a tooltip for another program |
| 02:47.42 | Inc` | (I run WoW in windowed/maximized mode) |
| 02:48.00 | Inc` | Specifically any mods that use surfaces textures |
| 02:48.19 | ckknight | Ellipsis: you do realize I was joking, right? |
| 02:48.49 | Ellipsis | lol, of course I do |
| 02:49.46 | Seerah | :D |
| 02:50.45 | Ellipsis | alt-tabbing back to IRC is throwing off my DoT rotation |
| 02:50.49 | Ellipsis | and yet...I still do it |
| 02:51.01 | Corgan | lol |
| 02:51.08 | Seerah | where do *your* priorities lay? :P |
| 02:51.09 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:51.10 | Inc` | l2 dual monitors |
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| 02:51.25 | Seerah | is that considered "dual" at that point? :P |
| 02:51.44 | Arcaia | need more Spirit buffs |
| 02:51.58 | Seerah | or was that an l2 instead of a 12.... I think it was an l2 |
| 02:52.08 | Ellipsis | I have a pretty weak computer...so a 2.5 SB cast is barely enough to alt-tab out and back in (due to paging) |
| 02:52.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49497 10LibCrayon-3.0/LibCrayon-3.0.lua: LibCrayon-3.0 - fix typo |
| 02:52.12 | Ellipsis | let alone actually *read* or chat :P |
| 02:52.13 | Seerah | pay no attention to silly gal behind the monitor... >.> |
| 02:52.27 | Seerah | *the |
| 02:52.31 | Seerah | ack, I can't type tonight :( |
| 02:52.58 | Ellipsis | actually, the computer I'm about to buy will be a triple-monitor setup, if I can get that to work properly with SLI |
| 02:53.13 | CIA-22 | 03ananhaid * r49498 10Violation/locales/ (zhCN.lua zhTW.lua): |
| 02:53.13 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 02:53.13 | CIA-22 | Mod Locales Translate |
| 02:53.52 | ckknight | You want me to do things to you like the sun and the moon, idiot! I don't have time. I have too many womens. |
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| 02:54.32 | Inc` | SLI, now there's an idea |
| 02:54.36 | Seerah | "do things to you like the sun and the moon"? |
| 02:54.38 | Kreiger | Sup guys. any of you know what an addon named Rock does? |
| 02:54.43 | Seerah | lol |
| 02:54.46 | Seerah | sorry |
| 02:54.47 | Inc` | It seems to be a replacement for Niagara |
| 02:55.04 | Seerah | There is no addon named Rock ;) |
| 02:55.07 | kaiden | Inc`, it's just a tad more than that :P |
| 02:55.16 | Inc` | I guess for the Ace2 Library then |
| 02:55.19 | Kreiger | I didn't download it.. but i updated my addons using WAU and it's there now.. and it gives me massive bugs and errors each time i open it. |
| 02:55.23 | ckknight | Kreiger: it's clearly a conspiracy created by some dark force |
| 02:55.28 | Kreiger | ckknight, i think so too. |
| 02:55.31 | ckknight | namely me. |
| 02:55.32 | Seerah | it's all an evil dream! |
| 02:55.48 | ckknight | Kreiger: Rock's an addon framework like Ace2, only better |
| 02:55.55 | ckknight | what you're seeing is the Rock Configuration |
| 02:55.59 | Kreiger | so, why is it in my setup now? |
| 02:56.13 | Kreiger | yeah. i click that and i get an error |
| 02:56.17 | Seerah | http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 02:56.20 | ckknight | did you update one of the following? FuBar, Cartographer, Pitbull, CowTip, Parrot? |
| 02:56.30 | Kreiger | Yes, yes, yes, no and no. |
| 02:56.37 | ckknight | Seerah: btw, that's from Group X - Bang Bang Bang |
| 02:56.42 | ckknight | Kreiger: they use Rock now |
| 02:56.52 | Seerah | ckknight: thank you for educating my lame-ness :) |
| 02:56.53 | ckknight | Kreiger: if you get an error, you likely didn't update properly |
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| 02:57.03 | Kreiger | WAU takes care of my updatey needs |
| 02:57.11 | *** part/#wowace NavrasUS (n=NavrasUS@acad240229.eastdorm.uic.edu) |
| 02:57.14 | Seerah | if you use WITHOUT externals, then make sure you have automatic dependency download enabled |
| 02:57.32 | Kreiger | hold pls |
| 02:57.47 | Kreiger | A friend of mine told me to do something with those |
| 02:57.54 | Seerah | ? |
| 02:57.58 | Paradox_ | how about an option to disable the auto-backup feature |
| 02:58.00 | Paradox_ | :/ |
| 02:58.07 | Kreiger | Automatic dependency download. |
| 02:58.14 | Kreiger | default mode WITH externals |
| 02:58.18 | Seerah | what do you mean "do something with those" |
| 02:58.23 | Kreiger | Automatic is on, default is off. |
| 02:58.31 | Kreiger | she had me turn some on, and some off. |
| 02:58.40 | Kreiger | i forget which ones. |
| 02:58.49 | Seerah | look in your preferences |
| 02:58.52 | Kreiger | I am. |
| 02:59.00 | Kreiger | Automatic Dependency download is checked. |
| 02:59.06 | Kreiger | Default mode WITH externals is unchecked |
| 02:59.23 | Kreiger | unpack is checked, skip svn working copies is checked. skip version is unchecked, diag is unchecked |
| 02:59.24 | Seerah | Try updating again. If that doesn't fix the errors, come back |
| 02:59.52 | Kreiger | I'm using an older version of WAU. lemme try uninstalling WAU and installing from new. this one gives me windows errors |
| 03:00.15 | Seerah | it gives you errors because it's old ;) |
| 03:00.20 | kaiden | ckknight, still broken |
| 03:00.25 | Kreiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.40 | Seerah | mmm! I hope there are no nuts in it :) |
| 03:00.50 | kaiden | ckknight, LibCrayon-3.0.lua:19: Bad argument #3 to `NewLibrary'. Expected "number", got "nil". |
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| 03:00.54 | Kreiger | I could make a joke there, but i'll pass and instead i'll just say no. |
| 03:01.00 | Seerah | good boy |
| 03:01.09 | Kreiger | Was that a test? |
| 03:01.33 | Seerah | no. :P |
| 03:01.38 | Kreiger | Lies |
| 03:01.52 | Seerah | Ellipsis? |
| 03:01.56 | ckknight | kaiden: wtf |
| 03:02.06 | Kreiger | ckknight, l2code |
| 03:02.07 | Kreiger | newb |
| 03:02.15 | ckknight | kaiden: no. |
| 03:02.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49499 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - add tag [TalentTree] |
| 03:02.48 | mikma | hahaha, someone whispered me and i got assessment + aceevent error |
| 03:03.28 | Seerah | so does that return the name of the tree with the most talent points in it, ck? |
| 03:03.49 | ckknight | yes, but if a second tree has ≥75% of the highest tree, it will return both as Primary/Secondary |
| 03:03.59 | ckknight | and if they're all within that amount, it'll return "Hybrid" |
| 03:04.05 | Seerah | coolbeans |
| 03:04.20 | kaiden | ckknight, what do you mean no? it's not my fault it puts it up there :P |
| 03:04.32 | ckknight | kaiden: open up LibCrayon-3.0.lua |
| 03:04.37 | kaiden | yessuh |
| 03:04.51 | Seerah | ck: only for party members? (I came on in the middle of that conversation earlier) |
| 03:05.14 | ckknight | Seerah: nah, whoever! |
| 03:05.16 | Kreiger | I'm installing a new version of WAU |
| 03:05.19 | kaiden | ckknight, local Crayon, oldLib = Rock:NewLibrary(MAJOR_VERSION, MINOR_VERSION) |
| 03:05.22 | Kreiger | do i update with externals? |
| 03:05.23 | Kreiger | lol |
| 03:05.45 | Ellipsis | Seerah? |
| 03:05.57 | Seerah | If you already have WITHOUT, then stick with without. Make sure you have automatic dependency download checked |
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| 03:06.25 | Seerah | Ellipsis: sorry, nevermind :( was silly - about gals testing guys |
| 03:06.28 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 03:06.31 | Ellipsis | sorry, was on a boss |
| 03:06.42 | Seerah | yeah :( dots! more dots! |
| 03:06.49 | Ellipsis | a boss I have to CC on, so I couldn't really alt-tab during SBs :P |
| 03:06.57 | Seerah | meh |
| 03:09.54 | Ellipsis | ooh, the food fairy came :D |
| 03:10.51 | Seerah | oh, and I have yet to start up the game (was about to), but I thank you immensely for adding scrolling for the pullout menus ck :D |
| 03:11.21 | Kreiger | Anybody know how tinytips doing? |
| 03:11.25 | Kreiger | I know somebody was working on it. |
| 03:11.36 | Kreiger | I forgot the site to check. |
| 03:12.33 | Seerah | was it a google code site or a personal svn? I forget, too |
| 03:13.17 | Seerah | ping Thrae |
| 03:14.28 | Firedancer | i think it was thrae's googlecode |
| 03:14.53 | Firedancer | i used to use it but now i <3 cowtips :p |
| 03:15.18 | Seerah | http://cia.vc/stats/project/thrae-wow |
| 03:15.19 | CIA-22 | 03treibh * r49500 10BigBrother/BuffWindow.lua: |
| 03:15.19 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 03:15.19 | CIA-22 | - buffcheck: added food buffs to consumables |
| 03:15.38 | Seerah | I don't see it in the downloads list |
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| 03:17.50 | ckknight | Seerah: :-) |
| 03:18.13 | ckknight | kaiden: the one that says $Revision |
| 03:18.16 | ckknight | sorry, was afk |
| 03:19.03 | Seerah | no biggie :) |
| 03:19.51 | ckknight | Seerah: I added other cool stuff too... |
| 03:22.02 | ckknight | btw, Seerah, Ellipsis: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bang |
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| 03:24.32 | Seerah | ahhhh |
| 03:25.17 | Seerah | ck: what's this choiceTextures thing? |
| 03:25.31 | Ellipsis | old, ckknight :P |
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| 03:25.52 | Seerah | does it show the texture like how the fonts show? |
| 03:26.19 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 03:26.26 | Ellipsis | shows a sample with the name |
| 03:27.05 | Seerah | ooooooh |
| 03:27.49 | Antiarc | http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Vek%27nilash&ts=5&t=BRB+DOWNLOADING+OMEN&select=BRB+DOWNLOADING+OMEN |
| 03:27.50 | Antiarc | :D |
| 03:28.20 | Seerah | <3 ck |
| 03:29.19 | Seerah | lol antiarc |
| 03:29.35 | ckknight | Ellipsis: Seerah didn't know it |
| 03:29.41 | ckknight | or at least didn't get the reference |
| 03:29.55 | Seerah | I'm a prude |
| 03:29.59 | ckknight | hehe |
| 03:30.13 | RogueShadow | It really doesn't bother me when people aren't aware of popular internet culture. |
| 03:30.19 | RogueShadow | Most of it isn't worth being aware of. |
| 03:30.56 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 03:32.36 | RogueShadow | Things seem to be going well on the Rock front. |
| 03:33.58 | ckknight | yep |
| 03:34.06 | Mudkipz | it fades |
| 03:34.07 | Mudkipz | holy shit |
| 03:34.24 | ckknight | we've secured the eastern trench, we'll be striking southern by Monday |
| 03:34.29 | Firedancer | lol |
| 03:34.36 | Kreiger | haha, very nice Antiarc |
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| 03:35.33 | yssaril | ckknight any info on fubarplugin 3.0? |
| 03:35.41 | ckknight | sadly, no |
| 03:35.50 | ckknight | my goal: do it tonight :-P |
| 03:35.56 | yssaril | :P |
| 03:36.22 | yssaril | btw is it going to be rock Dependant or independant of anything? |
| 03:36.32 | ckknight | Rock dependent, since it's a mixin |
| 03:36.45 | ckknight | but outside of that base, things are pretty much up to the author |
| 03:36.57 | ckknight | you can use Dewdrop if you want or LibRockConfig-1.0 or your own or whatever |
| 03:37.38 | Mudkipz | aloft is using 1.59MB |
| 03:37.44 | Mudkipz | why =O |
| 03:38.37 | ckknight | because you touch yourself at night |
| 03:38.45 | Seerah | uhhh... ck? |
| 03:38.52 | Keias | Aloft always did that to me Mudkipz |
| 03:38.53 | ckknight | yes? |
| 03:39.05 | Keias | Turn off all the info storing options |
| 03:39.14 | Seerah | I typed a new transparency for fadeout into RockConfig, hit Enter (like I'm used to with Waterfall) and wow crashed :) |
| 03:39.18 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: FALED SLOWFALL AT ARCHI |
| 03:39.32 | Seerah | let me try it again |
| 03:40.21 | kaiden | well now that i've spent 2 1/2 hours fixing my ui.. off to bed |
| 03:40.50 | Funkeh` | http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Vek%27nilash&ts=5&t=TEN+sec+to+REPENTANCE&select=TEN+sec+to+REPENTANCE&fl=1 |
| 03:40.51 | Killmore | Keias: will try.. I have the same MB problem with aloft |
| 03:41.18 | Seerah | crashed again, when typing into the text area - didn't even get to hit Enter that time |
| 03:41.51 | Seerah | Mudkipz: embedded libs? |
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| 03:41.56 | Ellipsis | jesus christ |
| 03:42.07 | Ellipsis | that has to be the 12th time my belt has NOT dropped |
| 03:42.15 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.17 | CIA-22 | 03treibh * r49501 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua localization_enUS.lua): |
| 03:43.17 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 03:43.17 | CIA-22 | - polymorph now checks for shackle breaks too |
| 03:43.55 | Ellipsis | /sigh |
| 03:44.13 | JoshBorke | thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk |
| 03:45.38 | Funkeh` | man I suck at levelling |
| 03:45.41 | Funkeh` | 26 on my horde |
| 03:46.04 | Ellipsis | hey wait a minute, I'm not sure I like this deal |
| 03:46.04 | Funkeh` | satrted at the same time as a friend who is 52 |
| 03:46.15 | Ellipsis | the food fairy brings home food, cooks it for me, and then starts eating it |
| 03:46.19 | Killmore | my aloft take 1mb now with all reset done |
| 03:46.20 | Ellipsis | and whatever's left when I finish my instance I get |
| 03:46.23 | Killmore | normal ? |
| 03:46.39 | Ellipsis | it's like a boss with an enrage...after 10 minutes he goes crazy and eats all your dinners =[ |
| 03:46.56 | Funkeh` | Killmore: probably, but 1mb is nothing really |
| 03:47.00 | Mudkipz | seerah, yes |
| 03:47.05 | Funkeh` | either that or you use embed libraries |
| 03:47.35 | Mudkipz | I"ll try turning off that option in aloft |
| 03:47.35 | Mudkipz | sec |
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| 03:48.02 | Funkeh` | Seerah: need more kitties |
| 03:48.09 | Mudkipz | so what do I need to turn off? |
| 03:48.20 | Mudkipz | dataoptions? |
| 03:48.22 | Ellipsis | Funkeh`, you are such a kitten addict |
| 03:48.50 | Funkeh` | kitties! |
| 03:49.54 | Funkeh` | I'm so tired right now tis unreal |
| 03:49.54 | Seerah | Mudkipz: you're not seeing Aloft's memory usage accurately |
| 03:50.00 | Seerah | because you're using embedded libs |
| 03:50.07 | Funkeh` | I've logged of my rogue 3 times already and jsut logged back on from boredom |
| 03:50.34 | Mudkipz | :( |
| 03:50.52 | Funkeh` | wtf is 1mb anyway |
| 03:50.56 | Funkeh` | woop-de-doo |
| 03:51.31 | Seerah | lolol :) Funkeh`: http://www.onedigitallife.com/images/darth-kitty-small.jpg |
| 03:51.43 | Funkeh` | sweet jesus |
| 03:52.08 | Funkeh` | I'm hoping thats not actually a cat behind that costume |
| 03:52.32 | Seerah | http://static.flickr.com/135/339908729_904b49f423_m.jpg |
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| 03:52.50 | Funkeh` | aww |
| 03:53.39 | Ellipsis | string cheese is teh win imo |
| 03:53.54 | Seerah | mmm |
| 03:54.09 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 03:54.23 | Mudkipz | my theme hides the wau options |
| 03:54.33 | Mudkipz | text and background is white wtf |
| 03:54.39 | Funkeh` | distract would be so mcuh more awesome if you could use it on targets in combat |
| 03:54.56 | Seerah | Hey, look over there! |
| 03:54.56 | Wobin | hehe] |
| 03:55.03 | Wobin | "you're facing the wrong direction!" |
| 03:55.04 | Seerah | *thwack* |
| 03:55.06 | Wobin | mages would -hate- you |
| 03:55.21 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:55.31 | Ellipsis | http://i12.tinypic.com/67ygsjq.jpg |
| 03:55.38 | Funkeh` | funny I'm only level 26 and I'm loving the rogue class |
| 03:56.11 | Funkeh` | lol Ellipsis |
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| 03:57.50 | Firedancer | haha |
| 03:58.29 | Ellipsis | you can't deny it Funkeh`, you're showing classic symptoms |
| 03:59.23 | Seerah | http://www.infinitecat.com/cute-cats/now-wait-a-minute.jpg |
| 03:59.44 | Olison | hhhehe Seerah |
| 03:59.55 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 03:59.57 | Funkeh` | awesome |
| 04:00.25 | Seerah | look at the vid on this page http://www.infinitecat.com/ |
| 04:00.57 | Ellipsis | infinitecat makes me lawl |
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| 04:02.34 | Firedancer | http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1188245238-1186830599055.jpg |
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| 04:02.47 | Firedancer | and wtf ... http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1181592539-20196HelloKittyTRFinalsmall.jpg |
| 04:03.17 | Funkeh` | Seerah: LOL |
| 04:03.21 | Funkeh` | that was awesome |
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| 04:04.22 | Ellipsis | oh no Firedancer, don't get started on the /~zqad/cats/ |
| 04:04.31 | Firedancer | heehee |
| 04:04.33 | Ellipsis | it will never end =[ |
| 04:05.11 | Funkeh` | Wobin: Whats the name of the tools you need for disarming traps |
| 04:06.20 | Ellipsis | http://i6.tinypic.com/5xno7yf.gif |
| 04:07.19 | Seerah | cute, ellipsis |
| 04:07.38 | Firedancer | for indy: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/6/60/IS_IT_CAN_BE_HUGS_TIEM_NOW_PLEES_CAT.jpg :P |
| 04:08.10 | Seerah | http://www.infinitecat.com/movies/teasing.html |
| 04:09.15 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r49502 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
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| 04:11.32 | magma | how can I get commit access? |
| 04:11.33 | Seerah | http://troja.ath.cx/~zond/funny/thumbnails/1174330218-1174140456173.b.jpg |
| 04:11.50 | Seerah | you need to follow the directions to sign up for an svn account |
| 04:11.59 | magma | k, I'll find em on the site |
| 04:12.22 | Firedancer | haha |
| 04:13.03 | Firedancer | http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/1155731300679qq1.jpg ^_^ |
| 04:13.35 | Seerah | I have that one in my arsenal, firedancer :) |
| 04:13.41 | Wobin | Funkeh`: Thieves Tools, no? |
| 04:13.47 | Wobin | Funkeh`: Thieves Tools' |
| 04:13.49 | Wobin | ergh |
| 04:13.52 | Wobin | Funkeh`: Thieves' Tools |
| 04:13.54 | Wobin | >< |
| 04:14.02 | Ellipsis | you'll get it eventually :P |
| 04:14.06 | Funkeh` | Yeah thats what I have but can't seem to disarm traps, I presume I need to learn that skill also? >< |
| 04:14.06 | Firedancer | it was one of the first I ever saw. I think I used a small cropped version as my avatar on wowace for awhile :D |
| 04:14.29 | Seerah | http://static.flickr.com/197/527013261_abe8a94334_m.jpg |
| 04:15.18 | Firedancer | http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/270915355_c8b9ae48e6.jpg |
| 04:15.24 | Wobin | what level are you? |
| 04:15.29 | Funkeh` | Is it can b sleap tiem now? |
| 04:15.35 | Funkeh` | 26 Wobin |
| 04:16.31 | Wobin | level 30 |
| 04:17.21 | Firedancer | wtb a better droprate on newb bags. i'm on a new char on a new server and i have no bags and it sucks :p |
| 04:17.38 | Seerah | http://i0005.photobucket.com/albums/0005/icanhascheezburger/2007/7/6/2/128281890378906250ohaidoggyi.jpg |
| 04:17.43 | Funkeh` | okay |
| 04:17.59 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
| 04:18.07 | Firedancer | night funkeh |
| 04:18.09 | Funkeh` | I think 5:20am is a good bed time to try sleep |
| 04:18.18 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.29 | Firedancer | heehee that's a cute on seerah :P |
| 04:22.06 | Ellipsis | ok, I think I'm gonna say goodnight while I'm still awake enough to type... |
| 04:22.09 | Ellipsis | see y'all later <3 |
| 04:23.29 | Seerah | nn |
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| 04:28.54 | ckknight | http://www.starterupsteve.com/video/gijoe11.shtml |
| 04:30.36 | Ellipsis | I have the whole series of those XD |
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| 04:32.05 | ckknight | also worthy of lulz: http://www.starterupsteve.com/video/gijoe15.shtml |
| 04:32.32 | Ellipsis | wtb bodymassage vid |
| 04:32.56 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/ui-paladin.png gayyyyyyy |
| 04:33.19 | Ellipsis | needs more pink |
| 04:33.36 | mikma | well ya, backdropds for actionbuttons and chats |
| 04:33.49 | Ellipsis | and look at the unit frame |
| 04:33.52 | Ellipsis | no pink AT ALL |
| 04:34.02 | Ellipsis | pathetic attempt at a pally UI, imo |
| 04:34.04 | mikma | i forgot it on :/ i don't play with sage :( |
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| 04:34.42 | Firedancer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9261.jpg ftw. NOT. :p the cyCIrcled skin is cute tho ^^ |
| 04:35.08 | Olison | eew |
| 04:35.39 | mikma | but i didn't even try to make mine gay, it's just, gay, for paladins |
| 04:35.51 | Ellipsis | ok, this time I'm really going to bed |
| 04:35.52 | Firedancer | lol |
| 04:35.53 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 04:35.59 | Ellipsis | night folks |
| 04:36.02 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/ui-mage.png not as gay with mage |
| 04:37.11 | Seerah | are you using scripts to color by class color? |
| 04:37.17 | Antiarc | Woot, 4piece Tier 5. :D |
| 04:37.23 | mikma | Seerah: yeah |
| 04:37.57 | Seerah | woot |
| 04:37.59 | ckknight | http://www.starterupsteve.com/video/gijoe22.shtml |
| 04:38.01 | ckknight | hehe |
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| 04:41.17 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_091707_201420.jpg mage ui >.> |
| 04:42.35 | aestil | ckknight, accidently had 'skip version check' off. so i just updated all my mods. Did you change libcrayon to work? |
| 04:42.43 | ckknight | yes |
| 04:42.51 | ckknight | maybe |
| 04:42.52 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 04:43.11 | aestil | my wife says boo. |
| 04:43.16 | aestil | so, i dunno. i'll check right now. |
| 04:44.49 | aestil | you win ckk. fixed. |
| 04:44.57 | ckknight | woo |
| 04:50.01 | ulic | ckknight is a winner. |
| 04:52.40 | Arcaia | ckknifefight |
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| 04:56.35 | Arcaia | im gonna start playing RO again |
| 04:56.37 | Arcaia | rawr |
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| 05:00.06 | stavmar | Antiarc: are you there? |
| 05:00.50 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 05:00.51 | Antiarc | Sorta |
| 05:00.53 | Antiarc | In TKE |
| 05:01.16 | stavmar | aah ok i will write my question answer whenever... |
| 05:02.09 | orionshock | hey ckknight whats your naming convention used in pit bull? ie the Player frame's name is "Pitbull_PlayerFrame" ? |
| 05:02.19 | ckknight | no |
| 05:02.23 | ckknight | PitBull_UnitFrame1 |
| 05:02.25 | ckknight | probably |
| 05:02.27 | ckknight | not necessarily |
| 05:02.31 | ckknight | depends |
| 05:02.34 | orionshock | lol |
| 05:02.37 | Seerah | or PitBullFrame1... lemme check |
| 05:02.45 | ckknight | oh yea, something like that |
| 05:02.53 | ckknight | either way, it doesn't give em names by unit |
| 05:03.01 | Seerah | PitBullUnitFrame1 |
| 05:03.01 | orionshock | ok |
| 05:03.16 | Seerah | pet is 2, target is 3 |
| 05:03.32 | Seerah | tot is 4 |
| 05:03.53 | stavmar | I am using the armory tools generated and hosted by MMO_Champion. I am trying to update the page like rerun it again, and when I execute the script for Heroic Keys or Guild Stats I keep getting the same outdated page from July. I assume i have to run the script manually each time for an update of the data, but why does it work for tradeskills and not for guild stats and Heroic Keys? |
| 05:04.21 | Antiarc | I may not have the updated source in SVN |
| 05:04.23 | Antiarc | I'll check it |
| 05:04.43 | stavmar | ok thanks.. have fun in TK |
| 05:08.35 | yssaril | ckknight: hmm instead of having the config fade back in and to the top on mouseover how about doing it on click? then you can adjust your layout of frames Example unitframes from pitbull right over it |
| 05:08.53 | Mudkipz | Milkshake |
| 05:09.04 | ckknight | nah, that'd be a bit confusing, then you'd at least need a click to fade it |
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| 05:09.55 | yssaril | ckknight: maybe a small button that locks out the fade back and when you click it again it comes back? |
| 05:11.08 | ckknight | doable |
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| 05:15.14 | orionshock | can someone who actually knows lua / wow ui take a look at this for me :D http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8588.msg141121#msg141121 |
| 05:15.48 | ckknight | :NewModule, not :NewAddon |
| 05:16.09 | ckknight | use ipairs instead of pairs |
| 05:16.32 | orionshock | LOL |
| 05:16.47 | ckknight | :AddHook is done wrong, it'd be easier to just use the proper PitBull methods |
| 05:16.50 | orionshock | why new module instead? |
| 05:17.03 | orionshock | ... i told em it was a hack :D |
| 05:17.04 | ckknight | because :NewAddon isn't a method that exists |
| 05:17.16 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.31 | ckknight | oh wait, I'm wrong |
| 05:17.33 | ckknight | my bad |
| 05:17.39 | ckknight | thought you did PitBull:NewAddon |
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| 05:18.09 | orionshock | oh :D |
| 05:18.28 | orionshock | i havent even touched the pitbull api stuff |
| 05:19.13 | orionshock | that and i wouldn't even know where to start |
| 05:19.27 | orionshock | combat fader module sounds good :D |
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| 06:00.52 | Ackis | if an api function returns 3 values but you only need 1 of them, does it matter if I do x,y,z = foo() or is there a more efficient way to just get that single value? |
| 06:03.11 | Nargiddley | local z = select(3, foo()) |
| 06:07.03 | ckknight | technically local _,_,z = foo() is more efficient, but probably not my _all_ that much |
| 06:08.25 | Nargiddley | much past the 3rd return and select can be alot more readable tho |
| 06:08.26 | buu | ckckckcknight. |
| 06:08.31 | ckknight | freaky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nFDnC8SSWQ |
| 06:08.34 | ckknight | buu: no. |
| 06:09.06 | Killmore | ckckckckcknight! |
| 06:09.19 | buu | ckknight: =[ |
| 06:10.53 | Seerah | ??? |
| 06:14.35 | Killmore | ckknight: its your wife ? :P |
| 06:14.44 | Seerah | nn |
| 06:14.59 | ckknight | Killmore: lol, no |
| 06:16.29 | Killmore | ah :P |
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| 06:27.25 | AdamT_ | Hello. |
| 06:31.41 | AdamTher | Hello |
| 06:32.00 | ckknight | hiya |
| 06:32.22 | orionshock | jello? |
| 06:32.45 | AdamTher | Im looking for a mod that might display comments of quest notes from the internet, can anyone think of one, sorry to sue u guys like google but it turned up nothing. |
| 06:32.59 | orionshock | pick a number... theres a few |
| 06:33.03 | Gngsk | lightheaded |
| 06:33.08 | buu | lightheaded |
| 06:33.13 | buu | Wowhead comments ftw. |
| 06:33.26 | orionshock | who maintains lightHeaded? |
| 06:33.39 | buu | Jesus. |
| 06:34.55 | Killmore | Clad |
| 06:35.01 | AdamTher | Thanks guys, i appreceate it. |
| 06:35.02 | CIA-22 | 03ackis * r49503 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc): |
| 06:35.02 | CIA-22 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 06:35.02 | CIA-22 | - Added recipe lists for all trade professions |
| 06:35.02 | CIA-22 | - Improved functionality from when trade window is open to using slash commands |
| 06:35.02 | CIA-22 | - Added options to limit which recipes are scanned (not checked yet however) |
| 06:35.02 | CIA-22 | - Optimized some code |
| 06:35.04 | CIA-22 | - Added savedvariables |
| 06:35.20 | AdamTher | appreciate* |
| 06:35.28 | Ackis | lol talk about a release... about 2k lines of code added rofl |
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| 06:39.04 | ckknight | lol, this is hilarious |
| 06:39.06 | ckknight | http://youtube.com/watch?v=-kGvtne2zfo |
| 06:39.10 | ckknight | gotta watch the whole thing |
| 06:39.24 | buu | No. |
| 06:39.30 | AdamTher | Um im not turning up anything up to date on "lightheaded" :( Sorry |
| 06:40.37 | AdamTher | I dont want you to hold my hand here but is it by a different name? |
| 06:44.56 | yssaril | ckknight: how do i make text appear on a button that dosnt inherit anything from a template? if i use |
| 06:44.58 | yssaril | YGSbuttonFrame[currentFrame]:SetFontObject("GameFontHighlight") |
| 06:44.59 | Killmore | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html |
| 06:45.00 | yssaril | YGSbuttonFrame[currentFrame]:GetTextFontObject():SetJustifyH("RIGHT") |
| 06:45.02 | yssaril | the justification seams to mess wiht other UI justifications outside of my addon too |
| 06:45.02 | Killmore | AdamTher |
| 06:45.12 | AdamTher | Wow |
| 06:45.14 | AdamTher | Wtf |
| 06:45.15 | AdamTher | Lag |
| 06:45.17 | AdamTher | Thanks alot |
| 07:01.57 | orionshock | hehe .. did anyone tell yssaril why that's happening? |
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| 07:17.19 | orionshock | question ... |
| 07:17.21 | orionshock | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Localize_an_addon_easily |
| 07:18.01 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:18.29 | Xinhuan | no difference |
| 07:18.38 | Xinhuan | you can use one quotes type to enclose the other |
| 07:18.42 | Xinhuan | in the string |
| 07:18.56 | Xinhuan | like '"' is a valid string |
| 07:19.00 | Xinhuan | for " |
| 07:19.16 | Killmore | wow my internet is so slow right now |
| 07:19.59 | Xinhuan | thats about the only reason why both "abc" and 'abc' is supported |
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| 07:22.12 | orionshock | cool |
| 07:22.28 | orionshock | ive decided to ghetto localize my bloated addon instead of use AceLocal |
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| 07:34.00 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r49504 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:34.00 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 07:34.01 | CIA-22 | - Update zhTW translation. |
| 07:34.39 | orionshock | humm these translators need to get together and stop steeping on each others toes... |
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| 07:45.21 | ckknight | lulz http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y |
| 07:46.56 | Gngsk | hmm, just had a piece of hair sticking in my mouses laster thing totally whack it out |
| 07:47.12 | Gngsk | laser rather |
| 07:48.02 | Gngsk | wow that's a pretty random clip |
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| 07:52.09 | Killmore | ckknight: omg |
| 07:52.22 | ckknight | what? |
| 07:52.34 | Killmore | i like turtles |
| 07:53.52 | ckknight | yep |
| 07:56.41 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r49505 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:56.41 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 07:56.41 | CIA-22 | - Remove the food & oil buffs that poluted Consumable.Buff.* |
| 07:56.41 | CIA-22 | - Leaving the flasks interleaved for now. They will need splitting out at some point. |
| 07:57.51 | CIA-22 | 03ixchael * r49506 10Historian/ (Historian.toc HistorianFu.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 07:57.51 | CIA-22 | Historian: |
| 07:57.51 | CIA-22 | - You can now click on a line in the FuBar tablet to insert a statistic into the chat box. |
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| 08:02.18 | CIA-22 | 03ixchael * r49507 10Historian/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:02.18 | CIA-22 | Historian: |
| 08:02.18 | CIA-22 | - Moved the translation strings into a new "locales" folder. |
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| 08:11.42 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r49508 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/ (ReportAFK.lua SimpleReportAFK.lua embeds.xml): |
| 08:11.42 | CIA-22 | Fubar_ReportAFK |
| 08:11.42 | CIA-22 | -Readyified it for Patch Day |
| 08:11.42 | CIA-22 | -Added Ghetto locale support |
| 08:11.42 | CIA-22 | -Adjusted Externals to load in correct order |
| 08:12.07 | Lukian | "-Readyified it for Patch Day" |
| 08:12.09 | Lukian | rofl |
| 08:12.14 | Lukian | awesome word |
| 08:12.15 | orionshock | :D |
| 08:12.36 | Fisker- | i has hate |
| 08:13.14 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.28 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUkxvfL_eE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2E911blogger%2Ecom%2Fnode%2F11503 |
| 08:14.28 | Antiarc | wow. |
| 08:15.09 | Fisker- | string answer; |
| 08:15.13 | Fisker- | answer = "fuck you" |
| 08:15.16 | Fisker- | return answer; |
| 08:15.21 | Fisker- | forgot an ; btw |
| 08:15.31 | Fisker- | :P |
| 08:15.43 | Fisker- | actually i just logged out on my mount yesterday |
| 08:16.17 | Fisker- | then when i logged in today i was running it in the background while reading some stuff, and when i went into WoW i saw that i wasn't mounted when logging back in, and i fell down and died |
| 08:17.14 | Fisker- | btw i love thepiratebay <---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> this much |
| 08:17.55 | orionshock | Antiarc: .. wow that is fking bad.. i hope it doesn't pass |
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| 08:22.07 | Fisker- | wtf lol Antiarc |
| 08:22.47 | Arcaia | >.> |
| 08:23.53 | Arcaia | afk sleepz |
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| 08:31.09 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49509 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 08:31.09 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 08:31.09 | CIA-22 | - Update koKR |
| 08:32.24 | orionshock | urg... wowwiki failing me |
| 08:32.42 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jZMIx-xAqxs <-FUCKING GENIUS |
| 08:34.53 | orionshock | seriously |
| 08:34.59 | |Stan| | not funny O.o |
| 08:35.19 | orionshock | ok.. Lua is case sensitive ... very sensitive |
| 08:35.22 | Gngsk | don't play with rattlesnakes |
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| 08:42.01 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r49510 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/ReportAFK.lua: |
| 08:42.01 | CIA-22 | Fubar_ReportAFK |
| 08:42.01 | CIA-22 | -fixes to ghetto locale method. |
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| 08:42.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem|Sleep] by ChanServ |
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| 08:46.17 | neenee | Good morning. Has anyone ever seen this problem before? http://i4.tinypic.com/66u7q5w.png |
| 08:48.06 | Silviu- | lol |
| 08:48.10 | Silviu- | no :) |
| 08:48.12 | neenee | :| |
| 08:48.15 | neenee | It's quite annoying. |
| 08:48.35 | orionshock | drop your UI scale down a tad |
| 08:48.36 | neenee | Though I can click and see what the item is, not being able to see what is there at a glance makes it quite the hassle. |
| 08:48.45 | neenee | I have not scaled my UI |
| 08:48.50 | Gngsk | use clearfont? |
| 08:48.53 | MajorPayne | whats one of the most valuable addons for a mage? |
| 08:48.54 | orionshock | or adjust ClearFont up or down a dad |
| 08:48.57 | orionshock | *tad |
| 08:49.07 | neenee | oh, nice. |
| 08:49.08 | neenee | =] |
| 08:49.17 | neenee | I enabled 'Use Scale' and now it shows up :) Thank you :) |
| 08:49.48 | neenee | I do not use Clearfont, I use my own little one-font-to-(rule them/be used by)-all :) |
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| 08:52.25 | neenee | Oh drat. |
| 08:52.32 | Knaledge | What's the most useful/valuable addon for Mage? |
| 08:52.48 | neenee | When I enable scale and set it to the exact scale it had when scale is disabled, it doesn't work right :| |
| 08:52.48 | neenee | HM. |
| 08:52.54 | Gngsk | water addon |
| 08:53.06 | Knaledge | what about a beginner mage? |
| 08:53.10 | Knaledge | was looking at quartz |
| 08:53.19 | neenee | orionshock - could I solve this problem by editing say, a clearfont/font variable? |
| 08:53.29 | orionshock | ? |
| 08:53.39 | Knaledge | wondering if anything else is available as well that might be good for a noob mage (never played anything, ever ever, other than a rogue) |
| 08:53.41 | orionshock | don't use clearfont but you do use clear font? |
| 08:53.50 | neenee | Obviously you know of the problem - do you know what it's caused by? |
| 08:54.09 | orionshock | ya your UI scale is just slightly off set |
| 08:54.15 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.19 | neenee | hm |
| 08:54.24 | Gngsk | leveling is more about learning the class so you can figure out what addons are important |
| 08:54.28 | neenee | I'll edit my fonts then, perhaps I can fix it that way |
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| 08:58.05 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 08:58.09 | Chompers | http://youtube.com/watch?v=MSNLfa1VPwo&mode=related&search= |
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| 09:21.15 | orionshock | anyone know how to turn off DotTimer's synch "Feature" ? |
| 09:22.13 | Grum | anyone got troubles with files.wowace.com? going to that pages completely destroys my browser, my guess is the excessive flash usage in the adds .... sigh |
| 09:22.26 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah. Delete everything except Ash_Core and DoTimer |
| 09:23.03 | orionshock | no soft disable? |
| 09:23.37 | cncfanatics | Grum, block the domain the adds come from |
| 09:24.07 | Grum | cncfanatics: i got diff adds now and it works like a charm |
| 09:24.18 | Grum | those guildwards merchandize adds completely killed my browser |
| 09:24.39 | Grum | when do people learn that having 10000 layers moving in the background *DOES NOT DO ANYTHING GOOD FOR MY CPU DAMMIT* |
| 09:27.34 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 09:28.01 | cncfanatics | you can with linux |
| 09:28.08 | MoonWolf | right |
| 09:28.11 | MoonWolf | thats another issue |
| 09:28.21 | cncfanatics | compyz is nice |
| 09:28.24 | MoonWolf | i don't want no linux |
| 09:28.33 | cncfanatics | I don't want no windows :) |
| 09:28.46 | cncfanatics | and if you say without vista it implies linux & xp btw, you shld say with xp in that case |
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| 09:30.30 | MoonWolf | see linux is fine |
| 09:30.39 | MoonWolf | untill i want to play games without such things as cedega or wine |
| 09:30.48 | MoonWolf | and unless that changes, i don't use linux |
| 09:30.58 | orionshock | vista ain't that bad once you turn of UAC |
| 09:31.05 | Gngsk | I like turtles. |
| 09:31.19 | MoonWolf | i don't like os's with more requirements then my games |
| 09:31.24 | Lukian | MoonWolf, so you want Microsoft to port their shitty windows libraries to linux? :p |
| 09:31.45 | MoonWolf | no, i want game developers to release both windows and linux versions |
| 09:32.02 | Lukian | Yes, it's sad wow doesn't have a linux client :( |
| 09:32.02 | cncfanatics | MoonWolf, wine works fine |
| 09:32.14 | Lukian | I do agree with cncfanatics on that point :) |
| 09:32.14 | cncfanatics | WoW works fine on linux |
| 09:32.21 | cncfanatics | I'm running it :p |
| 09:32.26 | MoonWolf | yeah, but wow isn't the only thing i'm playing |
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| 09:32.27 | cncfanatics | with the exact same performance as on win |
| 09:32.30 | Lukian | WoW can run better on linux than windows. |
| 09:32.36 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 09:32.37 | cncfanatics | not with ATI |
| 09:32.42 | Lukian | naturally |
| 09:32.43 | cncfanatics | their drivers for linux are crap, but they're working on it |
| 09:32.46 | MoonWolf | i can confirm it does with nvidia |
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| 09:32.59 | cncfanatics | it does indeed, and it will with ati when their october version comes out |
| 09:33.12 | Lukian | the off-screen rendering in wine/linux/nvidia is great, you don't experience the city lag that *all* windows users get :p |
| 09:33.31 | nevcairiel | i dont get any city lag |
| 09:33.35 | MoonWolf | i don't get that in windows either |
| 09:33.38 | Nargiddley | neither |
| 09:33.49 | MoonWolf | maybe it has something to do with 2gigs or ram a duel core processor and a 8800gts |
| 09:33.53 | MoonWolf | only maybe |
| 09:33.53 | cncfanatics | Lukian, how so ? |
| 09:34.09 | cncfanatics | oclusion also works on windows and Is active by default as far as I know |
| 09:34.11 | Nargiddley | well since thats me as well MoonWolf it might heh |
| 09:34.13 | nevcairiel | MoonWolf: that sounds like my compi somehow .. :) |
| 09:34.14 | cncfanatics | or is it disabled by default ? |
| 09:34.29 | Lukian | Yeah, if you have high end gear you won't, but on lower end hardware it's better on *nix :D |
| 09:34.31 | MoonWolf | that might be because its pretty much a good setup |
| 09:34.56 | cncfanatics | Lukian, oclusion works on windows too doesn't it ? :p |
| 09:35.09 | Lukian | cncfanatics, not as well! :D |
| 09:35.34 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r49511 10FuBar_RecountFu/ (FuBar_RecountFu.toc RecountFu.lua changelog.txt): FuBar_RecountFu: Updated right-click menu options and added German text localisations for the tooltip. |
| 09:35.53 | cncfanatics | Lukian, is it active by default btw ? |
| 09:36.02 | cncfanatics | because my city lag is awfull with my ati hw |
| 09:36.54 | Lukian | hopefully it'll be fixed next drivers for you? :P |
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| 09:37.23 | cncfanatics | well, is oclusion even active for me ? :o |
| 09:37.24 | cncfanatics | I wonder |
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| 09:37.38 | baer_ | moin |
| 09:37.42 | MoonWolf | morning |
| 09:38.17 | cncfanatics | I'll try enabling it manualy in Config.wtf |
| 09:38.19 | cncfanatics | and compare the results |
| 09:38.21 | cncfanatics | next time I'm in orgr |
| 09:39.56 | cncfanatics | stupid ati shld release their .42 drivers |
| 09:40.02 | cncfanatics | .41 is total crap |
| 09:40.47 | Grum | mmmm |
| 09:40.57 | Grum | you mean that wow had no proper occlusion culling? O.o |
| 09:41.10 | Grum | that might explain some of the immense framedrops you can get in certain areas |
| 09:41.22 | Grum | any way to force it on? ^^ |
| 09:44.08 | cncfanatics | I'm not sure its active by default that's it |
| 09:44.29 | Grum | which setting? |
| 09:44.43 | cncfanatics | occlusion |
| 09:44.46 | Grum | because i have a 4y old wow install ^^ |
| 09:44.47 | cncfanatics | set it to "1" in config.wtf |
| 09:45.13 | Grum | lol .. i dont have that setting O.o |
| 09:45.34 | Grum | SET occlusion "1" ? |
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| 09:46.38 | cncfanatics | I guess |
| 09:46.44 | cncfanatics | compare in orgrimmar :) |
| 09:46.56 | cncfanatics | get on bankroof and make sure as much players as possible are hiden |
| 09:47.06 | cncfanatics | then compare with setting on & off |
| 09:50.23 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r49512 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 09:50.23 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 09:50.23 | CIA-22 | - Loot update |
| 09:50.30 | cncfanatics | Grum, results ? |
| 09:52.04 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r49513 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (GeneralPvP.en.lua WorldPvP.en.lua sets.en.lua): |
| 09:52.05 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 09:52.05 | CIA-22 | - loot update |
| 09:52.39 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r49514 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: |
| 09:52.40 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:52.40 | CIA-22 | - Small reorder |
| 09:52.40 | baer_ | btw... |
| 09:52.40 | baer_ | anyone knows an addon that i can use abbrev. in macros? |
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| 09:53.02 | baer_ | something like "CoA" for "Curse of Agony" or something |
| 09:53.22 | cncfanatics | that doesn't exist, ain't possible |
| 09:53.28 | nevcairiel | probably not possible because of the secure macro system |
| 09:53.45 | cncfanatics | actualy, it is possible |
| 09:53.51 | cncfanatics | you can edit macro's out of combat |
| 09:54.00 | cncfanatics | an addon could edit the macro and replace abrevs after it was created |
| 09:55.00 | nevcairiel | thats a sucky solution :P |
| 09:55.01 | orionshock | true |
| 09:55.01 | cncfanatics | but its possible |
| 09:55.01 | nevcairiel | meh cant wait for 2.3 |
| 09:55.01 | nevcairiel | i hate that slow scanning of the AH |
| 09:55.01 | cncfanatics | can't wait for it either |
| 09:55.18 | cncfanatics | slouken has been nice for me xD |
| 10:11.02 | cncfanatics | shouldn't be too long hopefully |
| 10:11.02 | nevcairiel | will take some time |
| 10:11.02 | nevcairiel | i bet not before dec |
| 10:11.02 | cncfanatics | awww |
| 10:11.02 | cncfanatics | thought it was mostly rdy ? |
| 10:11.02 | nevcairiel | thats what they say about every patch |
| 10:11.02 | cncfanatics | true enough :p |
| 10:11.02 | cncfanatics | also want 2.3 out asap because he's fixing the buggy spell api |
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| 10:11.02 | nevcairiel | i want it so that i can finally remove all my macros and stuff it into actionbutton magic! |
| 10:11.02 | cncfanatics | how so ? |
| 10:11.02 | nevcairiel | figure it out on your own =) |
| 10:11.02 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.02 | cncfanatics | aah yea |
| 10:11.02 | CIA-22 | 03happywarbird * r49515 10PetBar/PetBar.toc: PetBar: -toc file modified |
| 10:11.02 | cncfanatics | I'm a rogue, so stopcasting is a not a worry :) |
| 10:11.03 | nevcairiel | i didnt mean that |
| 10:11.03 | nevcairiel | i dont use stopcasting |
| 10:11.03 | cncfanatics | can already put everything into actionbutton magic if you want to ? |
| 10:11.03 | nevcairiel | a bit more advanced healing macros which i can finally stuff into actionbutton magic |
| 10:11.04 | nevcairiel | in theory yes, in practice, some APIs are missing .p |
| 10:11.04 | cncfanatics | some are ? :o |
| 10:11.04 | cncfanatics | didn't really look into it much |
| 10:11.04 | cncfanatics | lemme check |
| 10:11.04 | nevcairiel | you'll see |
| 10:11.04 | cncfanatics | you mean the macro API to find out what spell a macro will cast next? |
| 10:11.04 | nevcairiel | i wont tell! my secret features! |
| 10:11.04 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 10:11.04 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 10:11.04 | nevcairiel | anyway, i have to get going |
| 10:11.04 | cncfanatics | its 2.3 eh ? |
| 10:11.06 | cncfanatics | let me check notes :) |
| 10:11.06 | nevcairiel | you'll probably not figure it out from the API changes |
| 10:11.06 | nevcairiel | but if you wanted to code it .. you would notice that the API is missing now |
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| 10:11.06 | cncfanatics | :o harmfull stuff ? |
| 10:11.06 | Fisker- | man Stranglehold is tight |
| 10:11.06 | cncfanatics | tell meh nev :p I like fancy features |
| 10:11.06 | Fisker- | it was liek |
| 10:11.06 | Fisker- | "OMG THEY RIGGED THE BUILDING WITH EXPLOSIVES" |
| 10:11.06 | Fisker- | and i was liek "OMG FUCK" |
| 10:11.06 | Fisker- | then my computer exploded |
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| 10:11.24 | Arzach-DB-EU | all asleep ? |
| 10:11.26 | |Stan| | http://jira.wowace.com/secure/attachment/10043/Pitbull_Box_Bug3.jpg < LOL |
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| 10:11.49 | cncfanatics | Arzach, well awake here |
| 10:13.14 | Arzach-DB-EU | cool... from the number of talkers, I tought that all was asleep after a long night on the keyboard |
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| 10:13.36 | Diao | it's just quiet until someone talks |
| 10:13.46 | cncfanatics | its like nowhere near bedtime in europe :p |
| 10:14.14 | Arzach-DB-EU | I just woke upp, and I'm in europe ;) |
| 10:14.25 | Ixchael | Is there any way to just reload a single addon (i.e. the one you are working on & constantly testing)? |
| 10:15.00 | Arzach-DB-EU | beside disabling all others addon ? Dunno tbh |
| 10:15.25 | Ixchael | Would save so much time |
| 10:15.36 | cncfanatics | there isn't |
| 10:17.24 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r543 10/trunk/Panda/ (BtmScanner.lua Disenchanting.lua Panda.lua Panda.toc): Panda - Added btmscan module, works the same as Enchantrix's (minus the custom levels). |
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| 10:17.56 | Fisker- | oh hi Tekkub |
| 10:17.59 | Fisker- | wtf r u doin? |
| 10:18.08 | Tekkub | moo? |
| 10:18.13 | cncfanatics | yo Tekkub :o |
| 10:18.29 | Pkekyo | 'gmorning all |
| 10:18.36 | Fisker- | Panda? |
| 10:18.37 | MoonWolf | a tekkub in my #wowace, its more likely then you think. |
| 10:18.37 | Pkekyo | Tekkub: moo! |
| 10:18.39 | Fisker- | Auctionner clone? |
| 10:18.45 | Fisker- | auctioneer* |
| 10:18.59 | Tekkub | enchantrix, and far more added functionality |
| 10:19.10 | Arzach-DB-EU | wonderful |
| 10:19.20 | cncfanatics | enchantrix, what does it do again ? :p |
| 10:19.24 | Tekkub | auto-lott fix, GUI for fast DE (and prospecting later) |
| 10:19.33 | Tekkub | possible DE results |
| 10:19.37 | MoonWolf | interesting |
| 10:20.08 | Tekkub | that commit was hours ago, stupid CIA |
| 10:20.18 | Tekkub | just pushed up two of course it didn't catch them |
| 10:20.32 | MoonWolf | i want cia-7 back |
| 10:20.35 | MoonWolf | he's way better then 22 |
| 10:20.54 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r543 10/trunk/Panda/ (BtmScanner.lua Disenchanting.lua Panda.lua Panda.toc): Panda - Added btmscan module, works the same as Enchantrix's (minus the custom levels). |
| 10:20.56 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r544 10/trunk/tekPopbar/ (Mainbar.lua Sidebar.lua): tekPopbar - Added Shadowform statemap, hid macro names from buttons (always hated those damn things) |
| 10:21.02 | Fisker- | ownt Tekkub |
| 10:21.02 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r545 10/trunk/teksLoot/teksLoot.lua: teksLoot - Think this bugger is working correctly now, but I want to test a tad more in groups befoer I push it out. Fixed frames not hiding when they should. |
| 10:21.07 | Tekkub | there we are |
| 10:21.07 | MoonWolf | ah , theer it is. |
| 10:23.37 | cncfanatics | added shadowform state map ? :o |
| 10:23.38 | orionshock | Tekkub: what's panda? |
| 10:23.42 | cncfanatics | why not autogenerate them at load ? |
| 10:23.49 | Tekkub | I just said what it is, scroll up |
| 10:24.19 | Tekkub | cnc, I suck at statemaps, I've been adding them to that addon one by one as I need them |
| 10:24.39 | cncfanatics | Tekkub, I got some code to autogenerate everything at load if you want |
| 10:24.41 | Tekkub | it'll never have rogue or warrior statemaps cause I don't play thems |
| 10:24.54 | Tekkub | I really don't care, it's a personal mod |
| 10:24.58 | orionshock | ic |
| 10:25.00 | cncfanatics | oh k |
| 10:25.02 | Tekkub | I'll never release it |
| 10:25.31 | cncfanatics | if you ever start a warrior you'll get coding :) |
| 10:26.15 | Tekkub | I never will |
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| 10:30.22 | Arzach-DB-EU | btw, if LibCrayon-3 gives you an error, there's a missing dependancy in the .toc |
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| 10:32.00 | cncfanatics | roger that |
| 10:32.35 | Fisker- | good choice Tekkub |
| 10:32.53 | Tekkub | and that's the last commit, bedtime |
| 10:32.59 | Tekkub | *waits for it* |
| 10:33.09 | Fisker- | it's morning here |
| 10:33.21 | Tekkub | it's 0430 here |
| 10:33.30 | Fisker- | :o |
| 10:33.33 | Fisker- | up late |
| 10:33.48 | Arzach-DB-EU | error #34769: Tekkub falls asleep waiting for CIA-22 |
| 10:34.01 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r546 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:34.02 | Tekkub | I'm not the slightest bit tired |
| 10:34.03 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide |
| 10:34.05 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Fixed quest turnins for the 58th time... ugh... the bane of my existence |
| 10:34.07 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - AddonLoader goodness |
| 10:34.09 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Added text to the "not listed in guide" note |
| 10:34.11 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Added some guides from James' Alliance guide, will get merged over to the other soon or something |
| 10:34.25 | Tekkub | my body don't work on a 24hr pattern... I go to bed every night not tired |
| 10:34.54 | Arzach-DB-EU | update it, mine already works on a 36h pattern |
| 10:35.24 | Tekkub | mine works out to 30ish, but the hubby bitches when I sleep the few hours he's home awake.... and I don't get food |
| 10:35.32 | Tekkub | so... yea.... |
| 10:35.35 | Tekkub | beditem |
| 10:35.40 | Tekkub | *time |
| 10:35.46 | Arzach-DB-EU | LOL, you're right. Have a good sleep then |
| 10:36.17 | Lukian | forgive my ignorance, what is tourguide? :) |
| 10:36.46 | Fisker- | omg Tekkub is a girl |
| 10:38.18 | baer_ | liar! :-} |
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| 10:41.02 | Arzach-DB-EU | anyone have a suggestion about how to join custom chat channels in a reliable way ? |
| 10:41.13 | Arzach-DB-EU | I mean *after* the Blizzard ones |
| 10:43.36 | Sirow | Hm, I can remember there was an even for this, I've read something on wowace-wiki, perhaps I can find it again |
| 10:43.44 | Sirow | even = event |
| 10:44.18 | Arzach-DB-EU | you're right, but that even is broken ... I mean, it fires too early |
| 10:45.19 | Sirow | I THINK it works in Rock, but I'm not sure were I've read that :( |
| 10:45.43 | Arzach-DB-EU | I could try that. |
| 10:45.56 | Arzach-DB-EU | any pointer to any documentation about Rock ? |
| 10:46.11 | Arzach-DB-EU | haven't find any so far |
| 10:46.14 | Grum | there is some on the wiki |
| 10:46.38 | Sirow | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 10:47.25 | Arzach-DB-EU | wonderful. Off to read it :) |
| 10:49.36 | Sirow | Found it |
| 10:49.36 | Sirow | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibRockEvent-1.0#:IsFullyInitialized.28.29 |
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| 10:52.30 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r49516 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/libs/: |
| 10:52.30 | CIA-22 | Fubar_ReportAFK |
| 10:52.30 | CIA-22 | -Add AceSVN Externals |
| 10:52.41 | orionshock | ..whoops |
| 10:52.43 | orionshock | wrong one |
| 10:55.10 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r49517 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/libs/: |
| 10:55.10 | CIA-22 | Fubar_ReportAFK |
| 10:55.11 | CIA-22 | -revert last change... learning to close windows |
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| 10:57.57 | Lukian | ckknight, you here? |
| 10:58.13 | Lukian | CowTip is telling me "Not Specified" classes are Paladins :p |
| 10:59.43 | cncfanatics | nah, most mobs are actualy paladins |
| 10:59.45 | cncfanatics | that's not a bug |
| 10:59.53 | cncfanatics | 75% of npc's are paladin mobs |
| 11:00.27 | Gagorian | It just checks for a mana bar? |
| 11:00.36 | sag_ich_nicht | nah |
| 11:00.44 | Nargiddley | the game returns paladin for thier class |
| 11:00.53 | sag_ich_nicht | mobs are class categorized by AI script |
| 11:01.09 | sag_ich_nicht | warrior, paladin... there are some other, but i forgot which ones |
| 11:01.13 | sag_ich_nicht | most are warrior or paladin tho |
| 11:01.20 | Nargiddley | mage is reasonable common |
| 11:01.29 | orionshock | ya |
| 11:04.51 | orionshock | bah... so hourglass2 ... do i even want to commit it to trunk |
| 11:06.37 | cncfanatics | mage, warrior paladin are most common |
| 11:06.46 | Ixchael | Does anyone have a link or two to non-English GlobalStrings.lua files? I need to parse some chat messages, and they obviously differ per language... |
| 11:06.50 | cncfanatics | most pure casters are mages, most melee that use some spells are paladins |
| 11:06.56 | cncfanatics | pure melee mobs with warr attacsk are warriors |
| 11:07.08 | orionshock | Ixchael: there is a dir on the svn called GlobalStrings |
| 11:07.30 | orionshock | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/GlobalStrings/ |
| 11:07.32 | Ixchael | orionshock: oh excellent - thanks! |
| 11:07.49 | Ixchael | I should've checked that, sorry :) |
| 11:07.58 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.26 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.34 | Nargiddley | OO first |
| 11:09.04 | cncfanatics | OO first |
| 11:09.13 | cncfanatics | AceLib > AceOO > AceAddon > AceEvent > ... |
| 11:09.23 | cncfanatics | or AceAddon > AceOO > Acelib, can't remember |
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| 11:09.44 | orionshock | Lib is first |
| 11:10.05 | cncfanatics | the first one I said then |
| 11:10.17 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB 2.2.2 changelog |
| 11:11.12 | Sirow | WTS [2.2.2 changelog] for [A damn whole lot money] :> |
| 11:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Sirow |
| 11:11.59 | purl | tries to shut Sirow up |
| 11:12.04 | sag_ich_nicht | no don't! |
| 11:12.11 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 11:12.13 | sag_ich_nicht | purl, die |
| 11:12.13 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 11:12.13 | Sirow | :D |
| 11:12.19 | sag_ich_nicht | now gimme |
| 11:12.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 11:12.21 | Killmore | something I saw on the PTR, when you type /who 70 who can see how many 70 is online on the server instead of 49 :P |
| 11:12.37 | sag_ich_nicht | that's always been there... |
| 11:12.54 | Killmore | no |
| 11:13.02 | sag_ich_nicht | uh, yes. |
| 11:13.04 | Killmore | no |
| 11:13.05 | Grum | normally limited it at 50 |
| 11:13.10 | sag_ich_nicht | BS |
| 11:13.11 | Killmore | no |
| 11:13.26 | sag_ich_nicht | bullshit i say |
| 11:13.26 | orionshock | if someone can help me .. i don't play a warrior --what are the common shared CD's? |
| 11:13.41 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 11:13.45 | sag_ich_nicht | oh you mean the AMOUNT? |
| 11:13.59 | Killmore | yes |
| 11:14.05 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck yeah win. |
| 11:14.19 | Killmore | no, I win ! |
| 11:14.20 | sag_ich_nicht | census plus is going to run a fuckton faster. |
| 11:14.26 | Sirow | orienshock: Take a look at hourglass, it MIGHT be in there |
| 11:14.46 | orionshock | Sirow: ya that's what im adding it to >.< |
| 11:14.53 | Sirow | lol ok ^^ |
| 11:15.40 | orionshock | thottbot dosn't have shared cds listed for spells |
| 11:15.42 | orionshock | just items |
| 11:17.43 | orionshock | ok ..how bout a more generic question... does anyone know of any class spells that have shared CD? |
| 11:18.39 | Sirow | afak Priest (at least holy) don't have any |
| 11:18.42 | Sirow | *afaik |
| 11:18.47 | Killmore | sag_ich_nicht: look how I win :P http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot092207071817hh0.jpg |
| 11:19.37 | orionshock | does Retaliation / shield wall and recklessness all shared? |
| 11:19.49 | Killmore | orionshock: I think, yes |
| 11:19.50 | Sirow | Killmore just won [Free Penis enlargement] ;) |
| 11:20.04 | Killmore | w000t ! |
| 11:20.05 | orionshock | hehe.. well im in game i'll ask there too :D |
| 11:20.20 | Chompers | yes orionshock |
| 11:20.31 | Chompers | heroic strike has no cooldown |
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| 11:20.58 | Chompers | can't think of the others |
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| 11:23.31 | orionshock | now the real question ... what would you call the CD? |
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| 11:29.48 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.27 | snurre | arcane/aimed shot share cd too btw |
| 11:30.33 | orionshock | "Warrior Mastery CoolDown" |
| 11:30.43 | snurre | and for warrs, theyre usually referred to as "the big three" |
| 11:30.57 | orionshock | "The Big Three" --- good idea |
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| 11:32.31 | alcohol | what is PTR ? |
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| 11:33.15 | orionshock | Public Test Realm |
| 11:33.29 | alcohol | ah |
| 11:34.25 | mexicaan | Hi, I got a question about Pitbull, I can't find the option to display party frames while in a raid, can anyone tell me where I can find taht option? |
| 11:35.05 | alcohol | yea |
| 11:35.06 | alcohol | general |
| 11:35.09 | alcohol | or something |
| 11:35.18 | alcohol | there's an option to hide the party frame while in a raid |
| 11:35.41 | orionshock | snurre: what would you call the Aimed shot / arcane shot CD? |
| 11:36.31 | alcohol | mexicaan: sorry, I was wrong |
| 11:36.47 | alcohol | mexicaan: party -> other -> unmark hide party frame in raid |
| 11:36.48 | mexicaan | alcohol: Alright |
| 11:37.20 | mexicaan | Thanks |
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| 11:38.08 | orionshock | are mage mana gems all on a shared CD? |
| 11:38.18 | ennuilg | Yes |
| 11:38.36 | ennuilg | They share a cooldown with warlock healthstones too, but not mana or health pots. |
| 11:39.44 | orionshock | ok.. |
| 11:40.35 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r49518 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua: |
| 11:40.35 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 11:40.36 | CIA-22 | - Fixed inspect frame updating |
| 11:41.18 | _rane | how do i reset new items category in Baggins? |
| 11:41.44 | ennuilg | Right-click on your bags (not on an item I think) and select "Reset New Items" ? |
| 11:42.02 | Nargiddley | or shift click the fubar plugin |
| 11:42.02 | ennuilg | You can do it from the FuBar menu too I believe. |
| 11:43.14 | orionshock | any mages in the house? |
| 11:43.38 | ennuilg | Yup... :-) |
| 11:43.54 | orionshock | so what are the names of all the gems? |
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| 11:44.13 | orionshock | im updating hourglass with some more stuff |
| 11:44.50 | ennuilg | Mana Jade, Mana Ruby, Mana Citrine, Mana Agate and Mana Emerald. Not in that order. |
| 11:45.11 | orionshock | and your sure it's a shared cd with healthstones? |
| 11:45.29 | ennuilg | Sadly, yes. |
| 11:45.40 | woden | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=conjure+mana |
| 11:46.15 | LuckyLuciano | has Atlas Loot always been Ace2? or only recently; I'm sure I removed it a while back because it wasn't Ace2'ified |
| 11:46.25 | Gngsk | same CD as all other non potion restorative use items in the game |
| 11:46.49 | ennuilg | How do you do that character information thing here? |
| 11:46.52 | orionshock | now do health stones have a shared CD? |
| 11:46.59 | Gngsk | same CD as all other non potion restorative use items in the game |
| 11:47.00 | ennuilg | Yes. |
| 11:47.18 | LuckyLuciano | yeah and they shared a CD with thistle tea, which is annoying |
| 11:47.22 | LuckyLuciano | *share |
| 11:47.26 | Gngsk | healthstones, charged crystal focus, mana gems, whipper root tuber, thistle tea, etc, etc, etc |
| 11:48.03 | ennuilg | Yup. You used to be able to slip Whipper Root, etc. in between as they had their own cooldown, but they changed everything to being on just two cooldowns - pots, and everything else. |
| 11:49.04 | ennuilg | ~ennui bloodhoof-eu |
| 11:49.07 | orionshock | just doing majors here, so Mana Gems, Healthstones are going into seperate groups |
| 11:49.13 | ennuilg | Hmmm - that wasn't right. |
| 11:49.23 | orionshock | !c us nagrand Atradies |
| 11:49.26 | ThraeBot | orionshock: Atradies, Level 70 Tauren Druid (5/51/5). 9223 HP; 4970 Mana; 113 mana regen; 4737 Armour; 95.300 Melee DPS; 6.64% melee crit; 4 melee hit; 18 +heal; 212 defense; 15.75% dodge; 39 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 539 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cnnek ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38xdjj ][ Updated: Sat Sep 22 08:03:31 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:49.37 | ennuilg | !c eu bloodhoof ennui |
| 11:49.40 | ThraeBot | ennuilg: Ennui, Level 70 Human Mage (10/48/3). 6423 HP; 8606 Mana; 177 mana regen; 16 mp5; 309 spell crit; 73 spell hit; 940 +spell dmg; 222 arcane dmg (1162); 271 fire dmg (1211); 5.26% dodge; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 1270 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zxpnq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jbzyb ][ Updated: Sat Sep 22 08:03:45 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:49.44 | ennuilg | Cool. Thanks. |
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| 11:55.07 | _rane | ennuilg: which FuBar module has the reset thing? |
| 11:55.36 | Gngsk | what do you mean reset? |
| 11:55.38 | ennuilg | There should be a FuBar module for baggins that you have, showing a ring like Lord of the Rings, and your bag slots. |
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| 11:57.23 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r49519 10Hourglass2/Hourglass2/ (Hourglass2.toc Locale-enUS.lua core.lua embeds.xml): |
| 11:57.23 | CIA-22 | Hourglass2: |
| 11:57.23 | CIA-22 | -Update Cooldown Groups |
| 11:57.23 | CIA-22 | -Update embeds to match externals |
| 11:58.15 | orionshock | think i'll get any forum hate if i moved that over to trunk? |
| 11:58.32 | Sirow | Orion: What have to added? |
| 11:58.43 | Sirow | to = your >_> |
| 11:58.45 | Gngsk | no reason to add it to trunk |
| 11:58.48 | Gngsk | it's there if people want it |
| 11:58.54 | orionshock | Sink Support, Empisised bars |
| 11:59.26 | orionshock | not me, no i colated the additions that nerrik and mist made |
| 11:59.46 | orionshock | added more CD groups |
| 12:00.09 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:01.15 | orionshock | that and people have been requesting it |
| 12:01.33 | Punkie` | you've added bloat then :P |
| 12:01.45 | orionshock | hehe |
| 12:01.50 | Punkie` | people should just use cooldowntimers2 if they want those features |
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| 12:01.53 | orionshock | bloat, maybe |
| 12:02.05 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r49520 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 12:02.05 | CIA-22 | SpellReminder: |
| 12:02.05 | CIA-22 | - auto detection of debuff duration, should fix problems with some buffs taking the wrong duration |
| 12:02.05 | CIA-22 | - extended detection of spell dispel/removal |
| 12:02.05 | CIA-22 | - added some preliminary debuff code |
| 12:02.38 | orionshock | but the additions are nothing more than what any other bar display mod has, so is it bloat or just adding missing mainstream features? |
| 12:02.56 | Punkie` | it's bloat |
| 12:03.11 | orionshock | Punkie`: i think we have a problem of perspective |
| 12:03.13 | Gngsk | don't knock the bloat baby |
| 12:03.15 | Punkie` | the idea of hourglass was that it was supposed to be minimalistic :P |
| 12:03.35 | orionshock | ... and compared to CDT2 it is |
| 12:03.55 | Sirow | I've to second Punkie, Hourglass was allways minimalistic |
| 12:03.57 | Punkie` | well, evl is a guildmember of mine, and we both agree, the additions are bloat :P |
| 12:04.20 | orionshock | dev vs author, they are not the same |
| 12:04.26 | sb_ | does CooldownTimers2 show mana potions and stuff? |
| 12:04.39 | orionshock | CTD2 will show everything |
| 12:04.57 | sb_ | CTD2 or HG2? :o |
| 12:05.11 | orionshock | hehe |
| 12:05.34 | orionshock | honestly with the drama around HG, ive avoided putting it in the trunk. |
| 12:05.37 | Gngsk | should move it over to trunk with the name Bloatgas |
| 12:05.54 | Sirow | lol |
| 12:06.12 | orionshock | if i reName it i'd have to redo the scope wtih in the mod... and that is a pain in the asss |
| 12:06.24 | Gngsk | why? |
| 12:06.30 | Gngsk | just be like 'this name is funny!' |
| 12:06.33 | orionshock | time consuming |
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| 12:08.07 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r49521 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 12:08.07 | CIA-22 | SpellReminder: |
| 12:08.07 | CIA-22 | - Removed some debug prints |
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| 12:09.13 | orionshock | tbh .. i think im gona stick with my origional statement - >I< won't put it in trunk until evl says i'm allowed to, out of respect to the original developer. |
| 12:09.31 | orionshock | * allowed -> blessing |
| 12:09.35 | sb_ | okay what does hourglass do and where can i see it? :p |
| 12:10.04 | orionshock | le me check photobucket see if i have anything |
| 12:10.55 | orionshock | http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_082707_233259.jpg |
| 12:11.01 | orionshock | and it's a bad shot too |
| 12:11.09 | sb_ | thats HG? |
| 12:11.23 | Gngsk | http://ctscreens.net/8107 |
| 12:11.24 | orionshock | left side - there in the middle of the hud |
| 12:11.42 | sb_ | Gnarfoz: hourglass? |
| 12:11.45 | orionshock | Gngsk: is way better |
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| 12:11.55 | sb_ | does it show item cooldowns? |
| 12:12.10 | Gngsk | hourglass doesn't, dunno about branch |
| 12:12.28 | sb_ | thank you :o |
| 12:12.33 | orionshock | item CD's - yes |
| 12:12.45 | orionshock | group'ed spell cd's yes |
| 12:13.02 | orionshock | output to SCT-style addons yes |
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| 12:14.00 | CIA-22 | 03ixchael * r49522 10Historian/ (Historian.lua HistorianFu.lua locales/Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 12:14.00 | CIA-22 | Historian: |
| 12:14.00 | CIA-22 | - Changed the way strings are referenced, to minimize the amount of changes required when the English text is modified. |
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| 12:17.47 | CIA-22 | 03ixchael * r49523 10Historian/locales/Locale-deDE.lua: |
| 12:17.47 | CIA-22 | Historian: |
| 12:17.47 | CIA-22 | - First stab at a German translation. It is not complete yet and thus not referenced in the TOC. |
| 12:18.42 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm anyone know what event fires when exactly everything in the UI is loaded? |
| 12:19.01 | Gngsk | AceEventFullyLoaded ! |
| 12:20.22 | Nickenyfiken | Eh? |
| 12:20.51 | Gngsk | if you're looking for a blizz fired event I don't believe there is one that fits your description |
| 12:21.10 | vhaarr | AceEvent_FullyInitialized |
| 12:21.22 | Gngsk | yeah that's what I meant |
| 12:21.31 | Gngsk | zestfullyclean |
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| 12:22.37 | Nickenyfiken | Ok, do i know that all addons is loaded after that? Even blizzards? |
| 12:22.51 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r49524 10Modality/Core.lua: Modality: First steps toward button-specific customizations. |
| 12:23.05 | Gngsk | I think so, anything that isn't LoD anyway |
| 12:23.19 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r49525 10Modality_Bongos2/Modality_Bongos2.lua: Modality_Bongos2: First steps toward button-specific customizations. |
| 12:23.19 | Gngsk | irrc, it fires after you join channels |
| 12:23.40 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah ofcourse |
| 12:23.51 | Nickenyfiken | But lets say if my addon is not Aced? |
| 12:24.25 | cncfanatics | doesn't matter |
| 12:26.25 | Nickenyfiken | And if the user has no Ace2 addons installed? |
| 12:26.46 | Gngsk | uh, then it won't fire |
| 12:27.01 | Nickenyfiken | :-P |
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| 12:37.27 | clad|moving | you don't need ace to time something like that |
| 12:37.32 | clad|moving | and in most cases its not even necessary |
| 12:39.04 | Nickenyfiken | Well in this case i need something to delay processing of a function. I'm using GetNumSkillLines() and GetSkillLineInfo(i) in a function that is run on addon enable but it doesn't work so well. |
| 12:39.23 | clad|moving | why run it at addon enable |
| 12:39.26 | clad|moving | run it at PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 12:39.46 | clad|moving | since most of that data isn't available til PEW, but PEW fires multiple times, PL is ideal |
| 12:39.47 | Nickenyfiken | Ah ok I'll try that |
| 12:40.20 | clad|moving | yeah when in doubt, if info isn't available, use P_L_ |
| 12:40.51 | clad|moving | otherwise, it relatively trivial to react to the first OnUpdate or a frame |
| 12:41.35 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah well it is not always so easy to understand when to do things, and not. :-) |
| 12:41.40 | Nickenyfiken | Thanks for the help |
| 12:42.14 | clad|moving | no problem |
| 12:45.14 | xyu | is there a difference between eepanels and eepanels2 (other than the name) |
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| 12:54.16 | Sirow | good question :-/ |
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| 12:55.16 | xyu | Does prat enable unicode in the US client? |
| 12:58.11 | Sirow | xyu: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8139.0 |
| 12:58.54 | xyu | Thank you sir, i was looking for that link. ^^ |
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| 13:12.57 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r49526 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/nnTrainers.lua: Cartographer_nnTrainers: Fix auto filter on login. |
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| 13:56.55 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49528 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc Libs/AlarLib-2.0/ Libs/embeds.xml embeds.xml): !AlarLib Reorganized extrenal tree |
| 13:57.47 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S1KGwQ1O88Y lol |
| 13:59.51 | kaiden | Fisker-, the sad part is.. he actually made sense during that one |
| 14:00.24 | kaiden | he didn't pronounce mandela dead... he was talking about how saddam killed people with hope and compassion during his rule there |
| 14:00.39 | CIA-22 | 03speeddymon * r49529 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 14:00.39 | CIA-22 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:00.39 | CIA-22 | - Line 148: AckisRecipeList.db.AllSpecialties changed to AckisRecipeList.db.profile.AllSpecialties .. This fixes the LUA error, and also fixes the extra display of the options when viewed more than once. |
| 14:00.46 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 14:00.47 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge. Has said a total of 63 messages. Is idling for 5h 57m 21s, last said: 'http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/List_of_misquotations'. |
| 14:01.34 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 14:03.00 | Pkekyo | err |
| 14:03.05 | Pkekyo | when did saddam kill mandela? |
| 14:03.37 | Nickenyfiken | wtf is acutioneerd advanced split up in 13 folder |
| 14:03.39 | Nickenyfiken | bah |
| 14:04.29 | Pkekyo | how's that a problem? |
| 14:05.15 | Nickenyfiken | Or rather, 13 addons. That i have to disable for all chars except my mule. |
| 14:05.23 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 14:05.29 | Pkekyo | now that's a problem |
| 14:05.44 | Pkekyo | auctioneer should really have a "search for bargains" button |
| 14:06.02 | Speeddymon | because it is modular and so each new plugin is a separate addon, instead of making it embedded |
| 14:06.05 | Fisker- | anyone checked what's new on the 2.2.2 patch yet? |
| 14:06.28 | Nickenyfiken | Speeddymon: yeah well why isn't the folders named Auctioneer_* then? |
| 14:06.31 | Nickenyfiken | if its modular |
| 14:06.43 | kaiden | Tigerclaw posted, "Run to the center or you get minus 50 DKP!!", "All right, let's do this." |
| 14:07.40 | Pkekyo | what's the features in auctioneer advanced vs. auctioneer? |
| 14:08.04 | neenee | test |
| 14:08.05 | neenee | ok |
| 14:08.26 | neenee | Why not check out the site and look Pkekyo? |
| 14:08.51 | neenee | And 'search for bargains' is what the BottomFeeder/BottomScan module does. |
| 14:09.40 | Pkekyo | neenee: what site? |
| 14:10.11 | neenee | auctioneeraddon.com |
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| 14:10.56 | Pkekyo | now that's shitty typography for ya |
| 14:12.14 | Pkekyo | but what's the deal with 'public preview'? a fancy way to say beta? |
| 14:12.40 | Gnarfoz | how does that matter -.- |
| 14:12.51 | Nickenyfiken | AH scanning will be so neat in 2.3 |
| 14:12.53 | Pkekyo | the typography or the name? |
| 14:13.53 | Pkekyo | if typography: it matters a whole lot....if the name: I'm a curious bastard |
| 14:16.51 | Pkekyo | anyone know if art3mis is EU or US? |
| 14:17.24 | Cartas | Pkekyo: a beta doesn't have to be public, so no, it's not. |
| 14:17.40 | Pkekyo | Cartas: a public beta then? or does it mean something else? |
| 14:18.13 | Cartas | I'm assuming they mean it to be somewhat like that, yes! |
| 14:18.48 | Fisker- | i hax |
| 14:19.16 | Pkekyo | babble libs are for translating, no? are they really needed if running english version of the game? |
| 14:20.36 | Pkekyo | kaiden: link for that thread? |
| 14:20.46 | JoshBorke | for reverse translations, yes |
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| 14:21.42 | Fisker- | anyone knows who maintains wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 14:21.42 | Fisker- | ? |
| 14:21.47 | JoshBorke | beladona |
| 14:21.53 | Pkekyo | JoshBorke: reverse translations? |
| 14:22.06 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: from english to standardized |
| 14:22.18 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: ie, teh difference between Warlock and WARLOCK |
| 14:22.53 | Pkekyo | ah |
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| 14:23.37 | Fisker- | no u Elkano |
| 14:25.47 | Fisker- | ZOMG THEY REMADE THE DARK PORTAL I THINK |
| 14:25.58 | Sirow | ?_? |
| 14:26.19 | |Stan| | wtf |
| 14:26.20 | Gngsk | you think zomg? |
| 14:26.27 | Fisker- | yeah can't remember |
| 14:26.31 | Fisker- | might just log on live to check |
| 14:27.01 | Pkekyo | lolswut? |
| 14:27.09 | Pkekyo | remade it? which side? |
| 14:27.44 | Elkano | ??? |
| 14:27.47 | Sirow | "Remade the dark portal"? I donät get it? |
| 14:28.31 | kaiden | watching all the Team Fortress 2 videos, i'm soooo gonna have to get that |
| 14:28.43 | Lukian | Stronglimb Deeproot! XD |
| 14:29.41 | Fisker- | :O |
| 14:29.43 | Fisker- | brewfest |
| 14:31.00 | Fisker- | lol |
| 14:31.14 | Sirow | Brewfest: "Pay 10 gold for once beer!" ^^ |
| 14:31.29 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: checked on the dark portal yet? |
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| 14:32.25 | Fisker- | no |
| 14:33.06 | Fisker- | :O |
| 14:33.12 | Fisker- | you can get a riding ram |
| 14:33.13 | Fisker- | as horde |
| 14:33.16 | Fisker- | with the brewfest |
| 14:33.46 | Pkekyo | say what? how? how much it gonna cost me? |
| 14:34.07 | Deathra | Can I get a kodo as alliance? ~.^ |
| 14:34.09 | Sirow | OO |
| 14:34.16 | xyu | How do i use custom textures in eepanels? lets say i put the texture in C:\textures\hello.png would i type that exactly into the Backgroundtexture path? |
| 14:34.19 | kaiden | Deathra, yes but it requires you to mate with a tauren |
| 14:34.25 | Deathra | Excellent |
| 14:34.27 | kaiden | and do the shookulaka dance of death |
| 14:34.35 | Sirow | xyu: You can't use PGN |
| 14:34.42 | Sirow | *png |
| 14:34.46 | xyu | ah |
| 14:34.51 | xyu | what format do i use? |
| 14:34.55 | kaiden | xyu, TGA is the format used by wow |
| 14:34.58 | kaiden | (Targa) |
| 14:35.00 | xyu | oh duh |
| 14:35.02 | xyu | thanks ^_^ |
| 14:35.03 | Sirow | xyu: You need tga with no RLE and size must be power of 2 |
| 14:35.04 | TNSe | kay |
| 14:35.12 | TNSe | so using totems to pull down nightbane causes interesting bugs |
| 14:35.17 | xyu | Sirow: okay, thanks. |
| 14:35.31 | Pkekyo | Sirow: RLE? |
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| 14:36.29 | dodga | Run Length Encoding ;o |
| 14:36.35 | kaiden | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run-length_encoding |
| 14:36.41 | kaiden | dodga, too fast for me |
| 14:36.42 | kaiden | :P |
| 14:36.58 | Pkekyo | wtb art3mis |
| 14:37.07 | kaiden | wtb a knife to stab art3mis with |
| 14:37.12 | Sirow | +seen art3mis |
| 14:37.22 | Sirow | ~seen art3mis |
| 14:37.24 | purl | art3mis <n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 6h 33m 58s ago, saying: 'http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/List_of_misquotations'. |
| 14:37.24 | dodga | kaiden: Had no link to wikipedia :> |
| 14:37.38 | dodga | Just accidentally looked into the channel while waiting for the raid to pull Prince |
| 14:38.25 | xyu | OK so i changed it to a .TGA and put it in my Wow directory. Do i just type out the path now? C:\WoW\hello.tga into the line of eepanels? |
| 14:38.31 | xyu | or do i need to put it in a certain folder |
| 14:38.41 | Tornhoof | subfolder of your addon |
| 14:38.48 | Sirow | xyu: "C:\\WoW\\hello.tga" |
| 14:38.58 | Tornhoof | that won't work |
| 14:39.15 | Sirow | Yeah ok should be inside wow folder ^^ |
| 14:39.18 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 14:39.41 | Sirow | And RELOAD! ;) |
| 14:39.43 | xyu | not my addons folder ? |
| 14:39.47 | Fisker- | oh and new daily quests :O |
| 14:39.49 | xyu | just Wow\*.* |
| 14:39.57 | Tornhoof | afaik addons |
| 14:40.24 | Punkie` | xyu \\hello.tga |
| 14:40.41 | Sirow | deinititly need to be inside "World of Warcraft\...". Don't know if it needs to be inside Interface\Addons |
| 14:40.59 | Tornhoof | afaik your addon directory is the base path |
| 14:41.08 | Tornhoof | and it does not support ../ or stuff |
| 14:41.08 | Punkie` | not true |
| 14:41.27 | Punkie` | the pathing is as follows: \\Interface\\Addons\\AddonName |
| 14:41.38 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 14:41.52 | Punkie` | ~whalenuke Fisker- |
| 14:41.52 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers |
| 14:42.13 | Fisker- | "Honorary Brewer" Hand Stamp |
| 14:42.26 | xyu | so if my path is C:\games\wow\interface\addons\eepanels2 i would type this in the game \\interface\\addons\\eepanels2\\hello.tng |
| 14:42.26 | xyu | ? |
| 14:42.31 | Fisker- | Allows the purchase of Brewfest rams from a Ram Racing Apprentice |
| 14:42.48 | Punkie` | xyu: yes |
| 14:43.48 | Fisker- | EXPLOIT TIEM |
| 14:43.50 | Fisker- | WORLDPORT IS UP |
| 14:44.01 | cchomie | what exploit |
| 14:44.02 | *** join/#wowace Leachim (n=Necroman@p508A3748.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:44.15 | Fisker- | we have worldport access on the PTR |
| 14:44.25 | Sirow | whats worldport? |
| 14:44.39 | Fisker- | you can port where you want |
| 14:44.59 | cchomie | lol |
| 14:45.06 | Sirow | nee EU PTR :D |
| 14:45.10 | Sirow | *need |
| 14:45.16 | |Stan| | Sirow: it's up |
| 14:45.25 | Sirow | OO w00t :> |
| 14:45.31 | |Stan| | Fisker-: just /port Ironforge or what? |
| 14:45.50 | Kaydeethree | nah, stuff like /console port 34,45 |
| 14:45.53 | Fisker- | HAHA |
| 14:45.57 | Fisker- | it loaded zul'aman |
| 14:46.07 | Sirow | lol |
| 14:46.18 | Kaydeethree | and apparently all of the other /console commands are enabled too. someone's head in QA will be rolling |
| 14:46.51 | Pkekyo | QA? |
| 14:46.53 | Fisker- | fucking win |
| 14:46.55 | |Stan| | Kaydeethree: is there a list of the commads? |
| 14:46.59 | Kaydeethree | dunno |
| 14:47.01 | |Stan| | *n |
| 14:47.27 | Sirow | Quality Accurance |
| 14:47.34 | Fisker- | unfortunately no mobs |
| 14:47.53 | Pkekyo | would've been fun spawning raidbosses everywhere :) |
| 14:48.02 | Sirow | hrhr |
| 14:48.07 | Pkekyo | popping illidan into shatt or something |
| 14:48.18 | Sirow | Just one Illidan? :> |
| 14:48.29 | Pkekyo | you think shatt would've been able to take out one illidan? |
| 14:48.33 | Pkekyo | no, not really |
| 14:48.38 | Pkekyo | one illidan should be sufficient tbh |
| 14:48.43 | *** join/#wowace Maaads (n=Maeds@194.54.30.66) |
| 14:48.45 | Sirow | no, but two would be more fun :> |
| 14:48.48 | Tornhoof | just spawn archimond |
| 14:48.55 | Tornhoof | with that nice death finger :) |
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| 14:49.35 | woden | try ./console port if |
| 14:49.41 | Pkekyo | illidan, archimonde and kazzak then...fine, it's settled...gogo! |
| 14:49.53 | Fisker- | LOL |
| 14:49.57 | Fisker- | gm's are freezing people already |
| 14:50.07 | Pkekyo | freezing? |
| 14:50.07 | Fisker- | zomg gtfo |
| 14:50.09 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:50.13 | Fisker- | so they can't do shit |
| 14:50.22 | Maaads | Hi, is there somehow i can disable this "Rock configuration" and use the old menu style in pitbull? |
| 14:50.53 | Sirow | Fisker: roflmania XD |
| 14:51.07 | Pkekyo | they can do that? |
| 14:51.19 | Sirow | Maaads: afaik you have to use an old revision :( |
| 14:51.27 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: if you have access to all /console commands....wouldn't you be able to freeze the GMs as well? :p |
| 14:51.34 | Fisker- | nope |
| 14:51.42 | Pkekyo | damnit |
| 14:51.43 | Fisker- | teh standard wow client doesn't have the tools for it |
| 14:51.46 | Pkekyo | now THATwould've been fun |
| 14:51.56 | Sirow | Pkekyo: Yup, the did this kind of stuff on the TBC closed beta end, was really funny :) |
| 14:52.19 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 14:52.24 | Tornhoof | if they enabled the debug commands, those comamnds are open too |
| 14:52.33 | Tornhoof | you're just lacking the ui |
| 14:52.38 | Maaads | thanks Sirow, i really hate the rock config, i'll just go back to aguf then |
| 14:52.48 | Pkekyo | doing /who gm island is kinda fun when you find anyone there :) |
| 14:53.08 | Pkekyo | start spamming them about joining group for RFC and stuff...great fun |
| 14:53.19 | Tornhoof | heh what's the latest ptr build anyway? |
| 14:53.31 | Pkekyo | Maaads: rollback pitbull instead of using aguf :) |
| 14:53.51 | Fisker- | so much madness |
| 14:54.07 | Maaads | where do i find the older versions then? what version was the one before they introuced rock? |
| 14:54.07 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: geif more reports...what's going on? |
| 14:54.14 | Sirow | ... so much SPAAARTAAAA ;D |
| 14:54.33 | *** join/#wowace elp (n=a@p5B0CDAE8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:54.38 | Fisker- | someone have some locations for closed instances? |
| 14:54.45 | Pkekyo | Welcome. This is Sparta, and it is built of madness and blasphemy. |
| 14:54.47 | Sirow | http://files.wowace.com/PitBull/ |
| 14:54.54 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: if only you'd have asked half a year ago :p |
| 14:54.57 | woden | are only coordinates working for port Fisker- ? |
| 14:55.09 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:55.16 | Sirow | hm old IF? ^^ |
| 14:55.17 | woden | no og, uc, tb etc? |
| 14:55.40 | Maaads | thanks Sirow, but which one is the latest without rock? |
| 14:55.52 | Gngsk | the version in tags |
| 14:55.52 | sag_ich_nicht | why would you want that. |
| 14:55.58 | Sirow | Maaads: Sorry, don't know. You would have to ask ckk |
| 14:56.03 | sag_ich_nicht | still |
| 14:56.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Maaads why would you want that version |
| 14:56.19 | Sirow | He doesn't like the rock config |
| 14:56.20 | Maaads | cuz i hate the rock config |
| 14:56.34 | Gngsk | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/PitBull/1.0/ |
| 14:56.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail Maaads |
| 14:56.44 | purl | Maaads: Fail. |
| 14:56.52 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r49530 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (SimpleUnitFrames.toc TargetBuffs.lua TargetBuffs.xml): |
| 14:56.52 | CIA-22 | SimpleUnitFrames: |
| 14:56.52 | CIA-22 | - TargetBuffs: replaced XML with lua. |
| 14:56.58 | Grum | Is it evil to write something that create ideal gather routes for every type of node that you can herb/mine on every map? O.o |
| 14:57.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum do you know the story of the traveling salesman |
| 14:57.29 | sag_ich_nicht | and P and NP |
| 14:57.32 | Grum | yup |
| 14:57.34 | Pkekyo | Grum: what do you have in mind? |
| 14:57.40 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 14:57.41 | Grum | well i kinda just wrote it O.o |
| 14:57.46 | sag_ich_nicht | just making sure. |
| 14:57.46 | sag_ich_nicht | gimme. |
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| 14:57.59 | Pkekyo | Grum: elaborate please? sounds interesting... /drools in secrecy |
| 14:58.02 | Grum | not sure if it's wise to make something like that public though :) |
| 14:58.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum GIMME |
| 14:58.16 | Grum | well .. think of http://grum.nl/lazy.jpg |
| 14:58.34 | Grum | but then with generated 'optimally shortest routes' for every single node-type on the map in the whole wow-world |
| 14:58.35 | Pkekyo | grum: waypoints or? |
| 14:58.39 | Grum | yup |
| 14:58.50 | sag_ich_nicht | so gimme that grum. |
| 14:58.51 | Fisker- | someone on EU ptr pve_ |
| 14:58.52 | Fisker- | ? |
| 14:58.58 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 14:58.59 | Pkekyo | looks really interesting |
| 14:59.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't logon because LOL PATCHER IS BROKEN FUCK YEAH |
| 14:59.06 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: only on live :< |
| 14:59.23 | Grum | problem is that if i'd release this *EVERYONE* would started following the same route O.o |
| 14:59.41 | Grum | *starting |
| 15:00.05 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 15:00.17 | Gngsk | anyone that has all the nodes would take that route anyway, if they had half a brain |
| 15:00.19 | ennuilg | Pfft... The only "fun" part of gathering is working out optimal routes in you head... ;-) (Your route for Netherbloom in that jpg is pretty close to the one I've ended up with!) |
| 15:00.32 | Grum | Gngsk: i just datamine wowhead |
| 15:00.34 | Fisker- | oh i'm in naxx :O |
| 15:00.46 | Grum | ennuilg: that route is *FAR* from optimal |
| 15:00.52 | woden | ptr.. installing.. too slow |
| 15:01.03 | Grum | the second i finish writing this and implement the routes ingame i'll show the most efficient way in a screenie |
| 15:01.12 | ennuilg | And, as I said, is only "pretty close"... ;-) |
| 15:01.19 | Grum | nah it's not |
| 15:01.25 | Grum | i just calculated the route |
| 15:01.40 | Grum | bah |
| 15:01.44 | ennuilg | No, seriously, you can't argue with the fact that it's pretty close to the one I've come up with. Jeez - the arrogance of some people. |
| 15:01.56 | Pkekyo | Grum: got one of those for ores in nagrand? |
| 15:01.59 | Grum | i just say it's not close to optimal |
| 15:02.08 | Grum | yes for *every* node-type in wow |
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| 15:02.12 | Grum | that you can gather |
| 15:02.16 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 15:02.17 | Grum | O.o |
| 15:02.27 | Pkekyo | mind passing me one for minerals in nagrand then? :p |
| 15:02.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 15:02.44 | sag_ich_nicht | 09/22/07 17:01:13> Sky Commander Keller yells: No, lad, not Bronco! He's not been broken yet! You'll get yerself killed up there! |
| 15:02.45 | sag_ich_nicht | 09/22/07 17:01:34> Torkus Jr. yells: Come back, Mr. Bronco! We're gonna be in the Skyguard together! |
| 15:02.46 | Grum | yes i'd mind .. still pondering if it's wise to *ever* release this |
| 15:02.54 | Fisker- | lol |
| 15:02.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ahaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha rofl i love those ogres *rofl* |
| 15:02.58 | Fisker- | you can't worldport while in combat noes :/ |
| 15:03.03 | |Stan| | Fisker-: me |
| 15:03.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- haha. |
| 15:04.26 | woden | whats your name on ptr Fisker- ? |
| 15:04.47 | Fisker- | looks like they fixed it |
| 15:04.47 | Fisker- | xd |
| 15:04.49 | woden | lies |
| 15:04.52 | woden | i just ported to someone |
| 15:04.59 | Lukian | Grum, do it! :D |
| 15:05.03 | Fisker- | well i'm getting disconnected when i port into instances now |
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| 15:05.14 | woden | whats your character name? |
| 15:05.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum GIVE IT |
| 15:05.24 | Fisker- | xD |
| 15:05.27 | Fisker- | is my character name |
| 15:05.28 | Pkekyo | someone try porting to 45, 42 |
| 15:05.43 | woden | i'm in the nether |
| 15:05.53 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: but then i completely fuck up any gathering fun anyone might have |
| 15:05.56 | woden | and druid |
| 15:05.56 | Fisker- | oh |
| 15:05.57 | Grum | permanently |
| 15:05.58 | Fisker- | instance limit |
| 15:05.59 | Fisker- | that's why |
| 15:06.01 | Fisker- | noes |
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| 15:06.09 | *** join/#wowace ben_ (n=ben@dslb-088-066-007-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:06.14 | Kaydeethree | bah, I'm falling beneath the world |
| 15:06.14 | Lukian | Grum, define "Gathering fun" :p |
| 15:06.18 | Pkekyo | Grum: gathering never has and never will be fun |
| 15:06.34 | Pkekyo | there's always some chinese fuck flying infront of you on an epic flyer harvesting your nodes |
| 15:06.35 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:05] <Grum> sag_ich_nicht: but then i completely fuck up any gathering fun anyone might have <--i do NOT have fun gathering. i want to be QUICK. now GIMME THAT. |
| 15:06.38 | Grum | it's quite relaxing and a challenge to do it as efficient as possible |
| 15:06.40 | |Stan| | Fisker-: mm how can I port into instances? |
| 15:06.50 | sag_ich_nicht | then why you wrote it in the first place |
| 15:06.51 | sag_ich_nicht | give it |
| 15:06.53 | Grum | if i'd release this .. *every* single person will be able to fly the most efficient route |
| 15:06.57 | sag_ich_nicht | giev giev gieeeeeeeeeeev |
| 15:07.01 | Lukian | haah |
| 15:07.06 | Fisker- | using the instance id and a set of locs |Stan| |
| 15:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum i am not on your server! |
| 15:07.18 | |Stan| | Fisker-: example? |
| 15:07.20 | Lukian | Grum, everyone smart enough to install it :P |
| 15:07.42 | Fisker- | worldport 568 261.7353 983.4771 10.6874 |
| 15:07.49 | Fisker- | zul'aman i believe |
| 15:08.13 | Grum | meeeh |
| 15:08.15 | Grum | dilemma! |
| 15:08.20 | Grum | moral choices! |
| 15:08.23 | Lukian | Grum, I play on Oceanic servers! Can I has it? :D |
| 15:08.23 | |Stan| | Fisker-: I'm in Zul Aman |
| 15:08.27 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 15:08.31 | woden | same |
| 15:08.32 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r49531 10JasonQuestLH/: JasonQuestLH: Initial directory commit |
| 15:08.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum |
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| 15:08.35 | sag_ich_nicht | THIS IS THE INTERNET |
| 15:08.46 | sag_ich_nicht | you know what you have to do! |
| 15:08.50 | Grum | :'( |
| 15:08.50 | Josh_Borke | grum: who cares? so you make gathering efficient. gathering isn't going to break the economy on any server |
| 15:08.50 | Grum | noes |
| 15:08.51 | Lukian | You can't post a screenshot and not deliver? ;) |
| 15:09.00 | Fisker- | you can go to programmers isle and designer's isle |
| 15:09.02 | Pkekyo | Grum: all the real farmers does it anyways, so it can't cost -that much- harm? |
| 15:09.04 | Grum | i'll be working towards that Lukian :) |
| 15:09.26 | Grum | just wondering if i should finish it |
| 15:09.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- find a worldport to something we DON'T know yet |
| 15:09.31 | Grum | because i'm damn close to doing it |
| 15:09.34 | sag_ich_nicht | do it |
| 15:09.43 | Grum | i have the optimal routes - i just need to convert them to something my wow can read |
| 15:10.01 | Josh_Borke | Grum: you should definitely do something that calculates it in game |
| 15:10.01 | Grum | meeeeh! |
| 15:10.02 | Fisker- | it's so funny |
| 15:10.10 | Fisker- | there's like 10 people frozen @ gm island now |
| 15:10.21 | Fisker- | HEARTHSTONE NUB |
| 15:10.24 | Grum | Josh_Borke: hell no, i'm so not going to write TSP ACO algorithms in lua ^^ |
| 15:10.24 | Fisker- | RUN BEFORE ITS TOO LATE |
| 15:10.27 | Fisker- | YOU WILL BE BANNED |
| 15:10.28 | Fisker- | :D |
| 15:10.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- why are they frozen |
| 15:10.49 | sag_ich_nicht | stuck in the wall? |
| 15:10.52 | woden | is this on the pvp server or pve? |
| 15:10.53 | Fisker- | because they ported to gm island |
| 15:10.56 | Fisker- | and sploitzored |
| 15:10.58 | Fisker- | pve server |
| 15:11.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: so? |
| 15:11.01 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r49532 10JasonQuestLH/ (JasonQuestLH.lua JasonQuestLH.toc): |
| 15:11.01 | CIA-22 | JasonQuestLH: |
| 15:11.02 | CIA-22 | - LightHeaded support for JasonQuest |
| 15:11.02 | CIA-22 | - Initial file commit |
| 15:11.04 | Grum | how did they port there? |
| 15:11.06 | sag_ich_nicht | you can move freely on GM island |
| 15:11.08 | Grum | oh anyhow .. off coding |
| 15:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i wouldn't see how they could be frozen oO |
| 15:11.15 | Grum | hopefully have a screenie in ~30 mins |
| 15:11.17 | Fisker- | sag_ich_nicht gm's are freezing them |
| 15:11.22 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 15:11.29 | sag_ich_nicht | they shouldn't enable world port |
| 15:11.31 | Fisker- | it's a GM-only spell that they cast on abusive players |
| 15:11.39 | Fisker- | as well as Squelch |
| 15:11.44 | sag_ich_nicht | so just worldport away |
| 15:11.44 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 15:11.48 | Fisker- | which makes them unable to speak to anyone but gamemasters |
| 15:11.49 | woden | you can port to other players np |
| 15:11.51 | Fisker- | i did of course |
| 15:11.54 | woden | ./console port playername |
| 15:11.56 | Fisker- | how? |
| 15:11.57 | Hjalte | On Dunemaul EU someone got banned for 3 days for using a hack to make a ship go to GM Island instead of Theramore.. I think he got off cheap. |
| 15:11.58 | Fisker- | nice |
| 15:12.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Hjalte old |
| 15:12.20 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: mate of mine did the same thing with a zeppelin :) |
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| 15:12.26 | Fisker- | indeed Hjalte |
| 15:12.27 | Pkekyo | never got banned though |
| 15:12.33 | Grum | lol |
| 15:12.34 | Fisker- | you would've gotten a permanent ban usually |
| 15:13.11 | Hjalte | He helped the GM's by telling them how he did, that's why he only got a 3 days ban. |
| 15:13.12 | dreamss | anyone got a link to the ptr patch noyes? |
| 15:13.21 | Maaads | when i try to change certian changes in pitbull i get an error message that banzai 1.1 is not running and i must register this event, whata hell does that mean? |
| 15:13.22 | Pkekyo | well, my mate did it with one of those fancy trial accounts^:> |
| 15:13.23 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 15:13.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Hjalte noggerholic did that like |
| 15:13.38 | sag_ich_nicht | during patch 1.8 or something |
| 15:13.41 | Lukian | Maaads, install banzai library. |
| 15:13.51 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard can't do shit about it |
| 15:13.53 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 15:13.55 | Maaads | ok, thanks |
| 15:14.11 | woden | no body seems to be questioning the fact i'm just randomly appeaering beside them |
| 15:14.25 | Josh_Borke | they probably think you are just logging in |
| 15:14.25 | Kaydeethree | oh wow. they finally fixed the /who display |
| 15:14.28 | Lukian | woden, lol! :D |
| 15:14.35 | Kaydeethree | x people found (50 displayed) |
| 15:14.37 | dreamss | can u do it in BG? go do wsg and port the flag |
| 15:14.44 | Maaads | it's BanzaiLib, right Lukian? |
| 15:14.49 | Lukian | Maaads, yeah |
| 15:14.54 | Maaads | ok, thanks :) |
| 15:15.00 | |Stan| | Fisker-: don't to "worldport Shattrath" |
| 15:15.08 | |Stan| | s/to/do |
| 15:15.27 | sag_ich_nicht | why |Stan| |
| 15:15.45 | Fisker- | it crashes you |
| 15:15.47 | |Stan| | urm landed in silverforest |
| 15:15.51 | Fisker- | oh |
| 15:15.54 | |Stan| | falling through the world |
| 15:15.56 | Fisker- | usually it would crash you |
| 15:16.02 | Fisker- | you are lucky they fixed it then |
| 15:16.05 | |Stan| | nah, char is bow borked |
| 15:16.08 | |Stan| | now |
| 15:16.11 | Fisker- | oh |
| 15:16.21 | Fisker- | then it's still not fixed :) |
| 15:16.25 | |Stan| | lol |
| 15:16.44 | woden | i'm still porting np |
| 15:16.46 | Lukian | lol where is worldport enabled? |
| 15:16.47 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 15:16.48 | sag_ich_nicht | WAIT |
| 15:16.52 | Fisker- | ptr's |
| 15:16.53 | sag_ich_nicht | if worldport is enabled |
| 15:17.00 | Lukian | lol sweet |
| 15:17.03 | sag_ich_nicht | that means the PTR build is probably compiled with debugging information |
| 15:17.06 | sag_ich_nicht | quick |
| 15:17.08 | Kaydeethree | yes, all of the other console commands are enabled too |
| 15:17.14 | sag_ich_nicht | someone attach a debugger to WoW.exe |
| 15:17.26 | Fisker- | how and why? |
| 15:17.32 | Tornhoof | the debug info is external |
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| 15:17.43 | sag_ich_nicht | well that sucks :X |
| 15:17.55 | Tornhoof | the release builds have external debug info too |
| 15:17.58 | Fisker- | also you don't have access to dev zones either |
| 15:18.28 | sb_ | hm |
| 15:18.34 | sb_ | port command working on PTR? :O |
| 15:18.40 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 15:18.42 | |Stan| | sag_ich_nicht: what would you do with the debugger? |
| 15:18.58 | sag_ich_nicht | try and find out why my WoW crashes after numerous alt + tabs |
| 15:18.59 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
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| 15:19.15 | Tornhoof | dx surface isn't properly reset afaik |
| 15:19.18 | Pkekyo | wts my guild! |
| 15:19.37 | Kaydeethree | New PTR up! Latest build: 7286. Diffs from 6932, 7272 @ http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
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| 15:19.44 | Pkekyo | respected name, bloodfeather EU |
| 15:19.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo o rly |
| 15:19.55 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:19] <Tornhoof> dx surface isn't properly reset afaik <--o rly |
| 15:20.00 | sag_ich_nicht | from where you got that information |
| 15:20.14 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: ya'rly |
| 15:20.25 | sag_ich_nicht | well from where you got those informations :X |
| 15:20.27 | Lukian | Can you give yourself a martin thunder? :p |
| 15:20.37 | sag_ich_nicht | do it! |
| 15:20.56 | Fisker- | anyone on EU pve ptr? |
| 15:21.04 | sag_ich_nicht | no, i can't install PTR |
| 15:21.10 | sag_ich_nicht | because it is BORKED with ELP installed |
| 15:21.24 | Fisker- | what's new Kaydeethree? |
| 15:21.28 | Tornhoof | that's the most common error when applications fail to redraw properly |
| 15:21.36 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: you able to spawn yourself weapons? |
| 15:21.51 | Tornhoof | same thing is that weird bug that you sometimes have 1fps after several switches |
| 15:21.52 | Kaydeethree | nothing, basically. a few globalstrings changes and minor other changes |
| 15:21.55 | Kaydeethree | it's a 4k diff |
| 15:22.05 | Kaydeethree | from 7272 to 7286 |
| 15:22.51 | Fisker- | no Pkekyo |
| 15:23.04 | Grum | humz here goes .. |
| 15:23.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Tornhoof: i am talking about the "Driver internal error on resource lock. Check AGP aperture." error :X |
| 15:23.17 | sag_ich_nicht | (with a non-AGP card) |
| 15:23.20 | Grum | inserting the ultimate netherbloom farming route into wow O.o |
| 15:23.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: you should make a cross zone route now |
| 15:23.44 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 15:23.51 | Fisker- | btw |
| 15:24.02 | Fisker- | Blizzard just made it stupidly easy to find the current population of the server |
| 15:24.03 | sag_ich_nicht | INCLUDING the dark portal and the portals in shat as waypoints :X |
| 15:24.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- i know. |
| 15:24.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Census Plus is going to run a bazillion times faster. |
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| 15:24.39 | woden | level one in AV \o/ |
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| 15:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 15:25.30 | Lukian | on 2.2.2? |
| 15:25.41 | Pkekyo | lol woden |
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| 15:26.15 | dreamss | no cool changes then other than features |
| 15:26.59 | Grum | i feel filthy |
| 15:27.03 | Grum | lets put that pic online |
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| 15:27.29 | Pkekyo | hmm...why the hell do I have both herbalism and mining on my warr? |
| 15:27.48 | Pkekyo | is there any sane reason to do that? |
| 15:28.28 | Grum | http://grum.nl/images/netherbloom.jpg |
| 15:28.42 | Grum | that's the shortest route that passes right over *every* netherbloom spawnpoint |
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| 15:29.36 | dreamss | dam |
| 15:29.51 | Grum | sigh O.o |
| 15:30.07 | Grum | i think i'll leave it at this |
| 15:30.15 | Grum | this is not something that should be release i think |
| 15:30.18 | Grum | *released |
| 15:30.28 | sag_ich_nicht | noo |
| 15:30.32 | sag_ich_nicht | you should release it |
| 15:30.37 | sag_ich_nicht | information wants to be free |
| 15:31.04 | Tuller | hrm...why are all of my characters naked on the PTR |
| 15:31.06 | Pkekyo | is it possible to use filters for cartographer_professions? |
| 15:31.29 | Tornhoof | tsp on the nodes |
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| 15:31.49 | Gngsk | Pkekyo, yeah |
| 15:31.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Tornhoof: I already said that. |
| 15:31.52 | Pkekyo | tsp? |
| 15:31.57 | Josh_Borke | whatever |
| 15:32.02 | Tornhoof | ah ok |
| 15:32.03 | Pkekyo | Gngsk: how? :) |
| 15:32.09 | Gngsk | it's an option |
| 15:32.09 | Tornhoof | traveling salesman problem |
| 15:32.11 | Gngsk | look for it |
| 15:32.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelling_salesman_problem |
| 15:33.08 | Fisker- | haha |
| 15:33.11 | Fisker- | i'm in the deeprun tram |
| 15:33.29 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 15:33.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum |
| 15:33.35 | sag_ich_nicht | how did you do it? :P |
| 15:33.54 | Fisker- | haha |
| 15:33.54 | Fisker- | buggy |
| 15:34.00 | Fisker- | i want to kill nessy |
| 15:34.18 | Fisker- | :O |
| 15:34.22 | Fisker- | deeprun chest |
| 15:34.38 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 15:34.43 | Fisker- | nothing in it :( |
| 15:36.06 | Fisker- | better repair before i hit on the level 20 mob |
| 15:36.10 | Fisker- | as it was about to pwn me |
| 15:36.16 | sag_ich_nicht | lol Fisker- |
| 15:36.28 | Fisker- | there's water down there |
| 15:37.16 | Lukian | can you port vertically and find out what you are actually under? :p |
| 15:37.18 | Lukian | hehe |
| 15:37.40 | Fisker- | lol |
| 15:37.43 | Fisker- | repair bill was 260g |
| 15:37.57 | Lukian | what are you wearing? :p |
| 15:38.09 | Fisker- | we got a lot of items in the bags |
| 15:38.31 | Lukian | lol |
| 15:38.39 | Lukian | premades? :) |
| 15:39.26 | Grum | Tornhoof: yup that is what i did .. solve the TSP on the nodes on a map |
| 15:39.42 | Tornhoof | yah looks nice :) |
| 15:39.50 | Grum | i feel dirty though :) |
| 15:39.54 | Tornhoof | why? |
| 15:40.04 | Fisker- | bah |
| 15:40.08 | Fisker- | no loot on the deeprun divers |
| 15:40.12 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 15:40.17 | Tornhoof | coz you actually applied first year computer science knowledge? |
| 15:40.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: give it out already, it's time someone shows blizzard that their farming system is broken |
| 15:41.41 | kaiden | Grum, do you have that in a dumped Cartographer system ?:P |
| 15:42.13 | Fisker- | :O |
| 15:42.17 | Fisker- | shark had loot icon |
| 15:42.20 | Fisker- | but no loot :( |
| 15:42.24 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 15:42.32 | kaiden | Fisker-, kill nessy! |
| 15:42.33 | kaiden | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.43 | sag_ich_nicht | he did |
| 15:42.44 | sag_ich_nicht | no loot |
| 15:42.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 15:42.53 | Fisker- | haven't found nessy yet |
| 15:42.54 | kaiden | so lame |
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| 15:43.00 | kaiden | she's on the right side |
| 15:43.07 | kaiden | if you are facing stormwind |
| 15:43.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- next, try swimming to the surface |
| 15:43.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 15:43.37 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 15:43.39 | Fisker- | they fixed it |
| 15:43.43 | Fisker- | i'm stuck |
| 15:43.43 | Fisker- | rofl |
| 15:44.13 | sag_ich_nicht | hearth |
| 15:44.14 | kaiden | Fisker-, haha they patched out the /console port command? |
| 15:44.35 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 15:44.41 | Deathra | Wussat? |
| 15:44.42 | Fisker- | well it was just disabled |
| 15:44.46 | kaiden | nice :P |
| 15:45.16 | Fisker- | nessy is unattackable btw |
| 15:45.46 | sag_ich_nicht | fail. |
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| 15:48.21 | Grum | kaiden: what? the nodes or the routes? |
| 15:48.25 | Grum | the nodes you can have if you want |
| 15:48.32 | Grum | i just did a fresh harvest from wowhead |
| 15:48.56 | kaiden | i'll just print out a color copy of your route |
| 15:49.01 | kaiden | and take that :P |
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| 15:49.53 | |Stan| | http://thepiratebay.org/blog/86 |
| 15:49.56 | |Stan| | this is soooo cool |
| 15:50.04 | Grum | lol |
| 15:50.10 | Grum | see, it's starting already |
| 15:50.12 | Grum | shush! |
| 15:50.49 | sag_ich_nicht | AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 15:50.50 | sag_ich_nicht | win |
| 15:50.58 | Fisker- | i like it |
| 15:51.00 | |Stan| | ;D |
| 15:51.04 | kaiden | haha! |
| 15:51.04 | Kaydeethree | server just crashed, hah |
| 15:51.06 | kaiden | nice.. |
| 15:51.10 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 15:51.14 | kaiden | you can always depend on tpb to fight back |
| 15:51.16 | sag_ich_nicht | grum give it to us now! |
| 15:51.17 | kaiden | love those guys |
| 15:51.50 | Lukian | Grum nodes please :D |
| 15:51.58 | Lukian | stick em on http somewhere for us ;p |
| 15:59.04 | Grum | nodes? |
| 15:59.05 | Grum | k sec |
| 15:59.53 | Grum | http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/nodes.tar.gz |
| 16:00.11 | Grum | use them wisely =D |
| 16:00.30 | Gngsk | you can get the nodes off the ace svn |
| 16:00.33 | Gngsk | cartographer_data |
| 16:00.43 | Lukian | <3 :D |
| 16:01.01 | Grum | lets generate the Cartographer_Routes.lua now |
| 16:01.17 | Grum | i wonder how my addon will perform with thousands of route segments :D |
| 16:01.25 | sag_ich_nicht | wow will die. |
| 16:01.29 | Grum | nah |
| 16:01.33 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 16:01.34 | Grum | i'll hide them by default ;) |
| 16:01.37 | sag_ich_nicht | you said route segements. |
| 16:02.05 | Grum | 265 routes |
| 16:02.24 | Grum | mm 201 even .. seems some routes crashed O.o |
| 16:02.28 | kaiden | Cartographer_Routes? something new? |
| 16:02.42 | Grum | yes that's new :) |
| 16:02.42 | kaiden | sorry at work so kinda zoning in and out |
| 16:02.47 | kaiden | Grum, give! :P |
| 16:02.48 | kaiden | lol |
| 16:02.51 | Grum | lol no |
| 16:02.51 | Lukian | lol |
| 16:02.57 | kaiden | Grum, so evil |
| 16:03.04 | kaiden | Ok, how about now? |
| 16:03.07 | Grum | mmmmm |
| 16:03.08 | Grum | no |
| 16:03.10 | Tornhoof | haha |
| 16:03.21 | kaiden | how about now? |
| 16:03.24 | Grum | mmmm |
| 16:03.26 | Grum | mmmmm |
| 16:03.28 | Grum | no |
| 16:03.29 | kaiden | sheesh you are hard to please.... |
| 16:03.41 | Grum | hey my gf says that as well |
| 16:03.56 | Industrial | ;P |
| 16:03.59 | Lukian | Grum, do you take bribes? :) |
| 16:04.11 | Industrial | I has a unitframes \o/ http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2702ee70ff714d435e9124a214a30b9d.jpg |
| 16:04.11 | kaiden | Lukian, obviously not if a lesbian girl band did nothing for him |
| 16:04.13 | Grum | i could do with 5kg gold |
| 16:04.28 | kaiden | Grum, you and me both |
| 16:04.45 | Lukian | You can earn that in about 3wks :P |
| 16:05.20 | Grum | or 1 day of real work and buy it ^^ |
| 16:05.30 | Lukian | meh at gold buying :p |
| 16:05.31 | kaiden | haha! |
| 16:05.58 | kaiden | I dunno, i never have harbored ill will towards farmers or gold buyers |
| 16:06.01 | Grum | nice Industrial :) |
| 16:06.03 | kaiden | it's the gold service spammers i hate |
| 16:06.04 | Lukian | so how much is 5k G, we can probably chip in :D |
| 16:06.12 | Grum | hehehe |
| 16:06.15 | Grum | dunno lets look it up |
| 16:06.18 | Grum | i just got spammed ingame :D |
| 16:06.21 | Lukian | susanexpress? :P |
| 16:07.11 | Grum | 186.93EUR |
| 16:07.24 | Lukian | what's that in USD/AUD |
| 16:07.29 | sag_ich_nicht | a lot. |
| 16:07.45 | Grum | US $250.64 |
| 16:07.51 | kaiden | that's not much |
| 16:07.59 | sag_ich_nicht | quick |
| 16:08.02 | Lukian | hmm htat's cheap :D |
| 16:08.07 | sag_ich_nicht | everyone in here donate 1 dollar |
| 16:08.07 | Grum | nooooes |
| 16:08.11 | Grum | *hides* |
| 16:08.15 | sag_ich_nicht | grum |
| 16:08.18 | Lukian | hehe |
| 16:08.19 | sag_ich_nicht | just give it out already |
| 16:08.29 | sag_ich_nicht | that way, you will show blizzard that heir economy system is broken |
| 16:08.32 | Grum | :'( |
| 16:08.42 | Grum | they will nerf addons again |
| 16:08.47 | sag_ich_nicht | bullshit |
| 16:08.47 | Grum | or make nodes randomly spawn |
| 16:08.58 | kaiden | god i wish people would freaking stop using rapidshare |
| 16:09.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:08] <Grum> or make nodes randomly spawn <--that would be an improvement, imho. |
| 16:09.04 | kaiden | it's the biggest pile of bs i've ever seen |
| 16:09.10 | Grum | not it wouldn't |
| 16:09.22 | Grum | having 'set' spawnpoints is good ;) |
| 16:09.29 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 16:09.35 | sag_ich_nicht | if you don't give us the map |
| 16:10.04 | Grum | you will call my mommy? |
| 16:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | worse |
| 16:10.14 | Grum | i still need to do some work on it though |
| 16:10.18 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 16:10.20 | sag_ich_nicht | go ahead. |
| 16:10.21 | Grum | because i can optimize the route a bit |
| 16:10.36 | Grum | by merging points that are within a certain range and let the route pass through that point |
| 16:10.44 | Grum | instead of through both points |
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| 16:11.09 | Grum | having a world-mine-map would be rather cool though ^^ |
| 16:11.18 | Grum | i guess i'll have to start toying with gps-lib soonish :) |
| 16:11.42 | sag_ich_nicht | go! |
| 16:11.47 | Grum | NO |
| 16:11.50 | sag_ich_nicht | YES |
| 16:13.01 | kaiden | Grum, sag has offered sexual favors for your route system |
| 16:13.05 | kaiden | do it to it man |
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| 16:13.27 | Grum | i know, i said i'd take it and then not give what sag wants .. mruahaha |
| 16:13.57 | Lukian | lol evil! :D |
| 16:14.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: how much time did it take to let the calculation for the optimal route take? |
| 16:14.32 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 16:14.33 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 16:14.38 | sag_ich_nicht | that was a borked sentence |
| 16:14.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: how much time did it take for the calculation of the optimal route? |
| 16:14.56 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed. |
| 16:16.33 | Pkekyo | is there any alternative to the barrens when leveling? |
| 16:16.37 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: i did ~160 routes within a minute |
| 16:17.06 | kaiden | Pkekyo, yes, the blood elf area |
| 16:17.08 | Tornhoof | as far as i'Ve seen the nodes are static, just precalc it ;) |
| 16:17.11 | kaiden | it will get you most of the way through barrens |
| 16:17.21 | Grum | Tornhoof: that's what i'm doing now indeed |
| 16:17.23 | Pkekyo | kaiden: also when not a blood elf? |
| 16:17.34 | kaiden | Pkekyo, you think you have to be a blood elf to level there? |
| 16:18.06 | Tornhoof | and write some thaddius arrows style addon, which puts huge arrows on the screen if you divert from the path |
| 16:18.17 | Tornhoof | navi system like ;) |
| 16:18.26 | Tornhoof | with some nice female voice yelling at ya ;) |
| 16:18.32 | Grum | hehe |
| 16:18.33 | Grum | no ;D |
| 16:18.34 | Pkekyo | kaiden: was thinking reputation levels to get quests etc... |
| 16:18.45 | Grum | i dont do feature requests |
| 16:18.56 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49533 10!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/ (. AlarLib-2.0.lua embeds.xml): !AlarLib Reorganized external tree |
| 16:19.03 | Pkekyo | when leveling as undead/belf in kalimdor, there's alot of quests you miss out on |
| 16:19.39 | Pkekyo | ding :) |
| 16:19.59 | todd | LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:1831: attempt to compare nil with a number |
| 16:20.00 | todd | :( |
| 16:20.00 | Pkekyo | also: what level should you be before leaving your 'home zone'? |
| 16:20.06 | todd | 10 |
| 16:20.27 | Pkekyo | so it's fine to leave it at 12? |
| 16:20.31 | alcohol | no |
| 16:20.33 | TNSe | no |
| 16:20.34 | Pkekyo | can't find any more quests there :< |
| 16:20.35 | alcohol | you're too late |
| 16:20.37 | alcohol | start over |
| 16:20.37 | TNSe | you leave it at 10 |
| 16:20.37 | alcohol | =( |
| 16:20.53 | TNSe | Pkekyo, dont worry too much about that |
| 16:20.56 | TNSe | so you are a mob grinder |
| 16:20.56 | Pkekyo | well, I'm 12 now |
| 16:20.59 | TNSe | soundsl ike you are warrior |
| 16:21.02 | TNSe | that likes to beat on weaker people |
| 16:21.09 | TNSe | its entirely normal |
| 16:21.15 | Pkekyo | TNSe: not really, I just kill stuff while running from A to B |
| 16:21.20 | Grum | todd: did you upgrade your addons recently? if not .. do it ;) |
| 16:21.25 | nevcairiel | its normal that you get ahead of that lvl10 thing when you really do everything |
| 16:21.32 | Pkekyo | and yes, it's my fourth warrior...but more because I'm sadistic than beating on little people |
| 16:21.34 | TNSe | indeed. |
| 16:21.39 | TNSe | I KNEW IT WAS WARRIOR Pkekyo |
| 16:21.42 | nevcairiel | just makes it easier in the next zone |
| 16:21.48 | TNSe | warrior was the ONLY class I went to 12 with in starting area :P |
| 16:21.51 | Grum | it's nice if you are always 3 levels higher than the quests you have to do |
| 16:21.53 | TNSe | :P |
| 16:22.10 | Pkekyo | TNSe I just did all the quests I could find in mulgore...ding, 12 :< |
| 16:22.15 | TNSe | yeah |
| 16:22.24 | TNSe | but of all classes I think warrior was the only one I di dthat with |
| 16:22.32 | TNSe | mana classes you try to avoid killing everything due to downtime :P |
| 16:22.35 | TNSe | rogue? Stealth. |
| 16:22.55 | TNSe | warrior? LOLCHARGERAGELOLHEROICSPAM |
| 16:23.02 | Pkekyo | haha indeed |
| 16:23.26 | Pkekyo | kinda frightening every time I start a new warrior...Rend is actually on my actionbars! :p |
| 16:23.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:16] <Grum> sag_ich_nicht: i did ~160 routes within a minute <--oÔ what algorythm you used? |
| 16:24.33 | Pkekyo | warrior in leather and mail, bashing on things with a staff...pewpew! |
| 16:24.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum your next step will be to include spawnrates into that route calc! |
| 16:24.40 | sag_ich_nicht | and spawntimes :X |
| 16:25.14 | Pkekyo | anyone remember what level Cleave is? :) |
| 16:25.15 | Lukian | ugh, housemates account out of credit and i was going to do a mining run :( |
| 16:25.37 | Lukian | guess i'll have to use my 62 pally :p |
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| 16:28.26 | Lukian | lol holy crap @ all the mining nodes in cart XD |
| 16:28.40 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49534 10AlarTTFrame/ (. Libs/): AlarTTFrame Last (I hope) fix to externals definition |
| 16:29.21 | Pkekyo | Lukian: yeah, I get that feeling at times too |
| 16:29.52 | kaiden | nerku leeku taku deyen |
| 16:32.11 | kaiden | you know.. sometimes i wish I could just stick to 1 class, if i did i could easily have a very minimalistic ui that only showed a few of the necessary abilities on screen and the rest could be hidden / hot keyed :P |
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| 16:32.25 | Pkekyo | kaiden: got the same problem |
| 16:32.33 | Cidan | er |
| 16:32.42 | Pkekyo | got a mage, shammy, two warriors, a rogue, a paladin, a warlock...meh! |
| 16:32.43 | Cidan | that's why you can enable/disable UI's per player? |
| 16:32.55 | Cidan | plus almost every UI has some sort of profile option |
| 16:33.07 | kaiden | Cidan, far too much work |
| 16:33.09 | kaiden | :P |
| 16:33.15 | kaiden | and as often as mod updates break ui's |
| 16:33.16 | Cidan | Then that's just you being lazy, :P |
| 16:33.18 | kaiden | ... no thanks |
| 16:33.45 | Lukian | Grum, gimme mining in just hellfire :D |
| 16:33.49 | Lukian | I'll test it for you :D |
| 16:33.49 | kaiden | the last few days i've redone my ui at least 5 times due to mod updates that have either corrupted my saved variables or had drastic changes made to them that required me to rebuild |
| 16:33.57 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 16:34.32 | sag_ich_nicht | wasn't there a cartographer package on files? |
| 16:34.45 | kaiden | sag_ich_nicht, i remember one a long time ago |
| 16:36.03 | Lukian | sag_ich_nicht, n/a since the move to rock perhaps? |
| 16:36.11 | Lukian | dev is too quick to keep a package up to date |
| 16:37.15 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 16:37.57 | Pkekyo | Cidan: I've done that, but it's still a complete mess, at best... |
| 16:38.09 | Cidan | Then you're doing it wrong, :D |
| 16:38.13 | Cidan | it works fine for me |
| 16:38.56 | todd | [12:22:37] <Grum> todd: did you upgrade your addons recently? if not .. do it ;) |
| 16:38.57 | todd | yes |
| 16:39.47 | todd | hmm |
| 16:39.52 | todd | it's fine after a /rl |
| 16:39.54 | Pkekyo | Cidan: no I'm not |
| 16:40.21 | neenee | Does anyone know of an addon which makes a screenshot when the player dings? |
| 16:41.29 | Fisker- | i has lulz |
| 16:41.55 | neenee | Ah, found one. 'Ding Recorder'. |
| 16:44.22 | TNSe | oaky, who made the addon that says 'gz' in guildchat when someone says 'ding' |
| 16:44.33 | TNSe | I wanna hit him in the face. |
| 16:44.43 | Fisker- | rofl |
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| 16:45.03 | Fisker- | IGN's protection against downloading insider only movies is a javascript preventing rightclicking |
| 16:45.05 | Fisker- | lolololol |
| 16:45.09 | Lukian | neenee, autoding |
| 16:45.21 | Lukian | not ace |
| 16:45.21 | neenee | Ah, thanks :) |
| 16:45.25 | neenee | That's fine |
| 16:45.40 | Nickenyfiken | ~wau |
| 16:45.40 | purl | i guess wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 16:46.04 | neenee | I just hope it still works |
| 16:46.26 | Lukian | neenee, should do, housemate using it atm (not for the screenshot feature though) |
| 16:46.33 | neenee | Hm. |
| 16:46.44 | neenee | I'll quickly make a level 1 then |
| 16:46.55 | Pkekyo | why do you want a screenshot of a ding? |
| 16:46.56 | Lukian | hehe |
| 16:47.06 | Lukian | it's good to see your progress |
| 16:47.10 | Lukian | aka. nostalga |
| 16:47.29 | Lukian | "omg i was wearing that shit? XD" |
| 16:47.52 | Pkekyo | lol |
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| 16:48.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i was never wearing shit |
| 16:48.27 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
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| 16:49.17 | neenee | Pkekyo - because my girlfriend asked me to level her Paldin to 68 and I want her to see the ding, just for fun. |
| 16:49.31 | neenee | Autoding is 'incompatible' though. |
| 16:49.52 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 16:50.26 | Fisker- | neenee |
| 16:50.32 | Fisker- | reported for account sharing |
| 16:50.48 | neenee | :| |
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| 16:51.01 | neenee | What's my characters' name? |
| 16:51.31 | neenee | And my IP? |
| 16:51.49 | neenee | Am I euro or US? |
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| 16:51.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 16:52.17 | Pkekyo | lolwut? |
| 16:52.33 | Fisker- | oh yeah neenee |
| 16:53.03 | neenee | hm? |
| 16:53.09 | Fisker- | GIEV |
| 16:53.14 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 16:53.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- |
| 16:53.20 | sag_ich_nicht | want me to report you for using worldport? |
| 16:53.21 | sag_ich_nicht | no? |
| 16:53.22 | sag_ich_nicht | stfu! |
| 16:53.42 | Pkekyo | :p |
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| 16:53.50 | Fisker- | go ahead sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:53.59 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 16:54.10 | sag_ich_nicht | OH WAIT |
| 16:54.10 | Fisker- | the response times on the PTR's are bigger than the time they run for |
| 16:54.24 | sag_ich_nicht | I can't get on the PTR even! |
| 16:54.44 | kaiden | interesting new look on files.wowace.com |
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| 16:54.59 | kaiden | that must have been implemented within the last 12 hours |
| 16:55.02 | nevcairiel | I need a simple addon to remind me that my trade cooldowns are over, anything come to mind ? :p |
| 16:55.14 | neenee | giev what? |
| 16:55.23 | kaiden | nevcairiel, i hear that! ... i have 5 tailors at 350+ and i NEVER make primal cloths |
| 16:55.31 | ckknight | hey all |
| 16:55.33 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 16:55.46 | Sirow | hey yourself :> |
| 16:56.02 | Sirow | Fisker hacked PTR ;P |
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| 16:56.14 | Lukian | nevcairiel, there's one for fubar. |
| 16:56.19 | kaiden | Sirow, i dunno if you'd call using a command built in "hacked" |
| 16:56.20 | kaiden | :P |
| 16:56.22 | Gngsk | is dash supposed to be extremely painful to learn ? |
| 16:56.37 | nevcairiel | Lukian: which? |
| 16:56.38 | Pkekyo | yay, he added a 'show all' option to files.wowace<3 |
| 16:56.45 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r49535 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/ (Cartographer_nnTrainers.toc nnTrainers.lua): |
| 16:56.45 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_nnTrainers: |
| 16:56.45 | CIA-22 | - Removed dependency Cartographer_Notes dependency. |
| 16:56.45 | CIA-22 | - Added option to toggle tracking notes (pink circles). |
| 16:56.52 | cog|laptop | ckknight: the direction away from the center of gravity of the most gravitationally influential object in your vicinity... |
| 16:56.53 | Caiman | good afternoon, everyone could help me with Grid and how to position it _exactly_ where i want via commands ? |
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| 16:57.29 | ckknight | cog|laptop: ? |
| 16:57.30 | Gngsk | woot, only took a half hour to learn dash. knew if I complained to you guys it'd work |
| 16:57.32 | Sirow | Caiman: What you pay? :) |
| 16:57.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: he told you what up is. |
| 16:57.49 | ckknight | ...oh |
| 16:57.50 | Caiman | sirow: a big smile :) |
| 16:57.55 | Fisker- | damn a dog's breakfast is nice |
| 16:58.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight bit slow today, huh? :P |
| 16:58.08 | kaiden | Fisker-, now go watch Sanctuary For All |
| 16:58.13 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: just woke up |
| 16:58.19 | Lukian | FuBar_TradeCDFu |
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| 16:58.27 | Lukian | @ nevcairiel |
| 16:58.46 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 16:58.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ForgetMeNot > tradecdfu |
| 16:58.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
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| 16:59.18 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 16:59.21 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 9m 11s), last said: 'http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/List_of_misquotations'. |
| 16:59.21 | Sirow | Own Chinafarmer > ForgetMeNot :) |
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| 16:59.38 | Lothaer | G'Day all |
| 17:00.19 | Sirow | hiho (digidi) |
| 17:00.43 | Fisker- | no u sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:00.47 | Sirow | ~seen Sirow |
| 17:00.48 | purl | sirow is currently on #wowace (9m 55s). Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Sirow'. |
| 17:00.51 | Lothaer | wats the latest |
| 17:00.54 | Pkekyo | the no PMs when not registered is global, serverwise? |
| 17:01.07 | nevcairiel | yes thats a network default setting |
| 17:01.39 | Lothaer | ~seen snsfanatics |
| 17:01.40 | purl | i haven't seen 'snsfanatics', Lothaer |
| 17:01.53 | Pkekyo | damnit |
| 17:01.56 | Sirow | *giggles* |
| 17:01.59 | Lothaer | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 17:02.00 | purl | cncfanatics <i=evolve@229.96-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 37m 35s ago, saying: 'doesn't matter'. |
| 17:02.33 | Lothaer | lol ^^^ is how i got my name |
| 17:04.11 | Lothaer | sure is quiet tonight maybe its jsut me lol |
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| 17:04.26 | Pkekyo | wsg becomes available at lvl 10, no? |
| 17:04.31 | Lothaer | yup |
| 17:04.34 | Pkekyo | Lothaer: been like this all day |
| 17:04.42 | Lothaer | although u might wanna wait until lvl 19 togo |
| 17:04.58 | Lothaer | is ckk here? |
| 17:05.05 | Pkekyo | ofcourse...goddamn twink cunts |
| 17:05.07 | Pkekyo | he was atleast |
| 17:05.12 | Pkekyo | about 10min ago |
| 17:05.24 | ckknight | Lothaer: yea |
| 17:05.26 | Lothaer | hes on the list but that dosnt mean hes at his comp lol |
| 17:05.31 | Lothaer | you were right ckknight |
| 17:05.37 | ckknight | about? |
| 17:05.50 | Lothaer | Minimap buttons, there a real pain in the ass to get right |
| 17:05.56 | ckknight | oh yea; |
| 17:06.01 | ckknight | definitely |
| 17:06.12 | Lothaer | i dod manage to get a FuBar plugin working for Set Wrangler though |
| 17:06.21 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r49536 10beql/tracker.lua: beql: - QuestLog: Fixed Tracking indicators in the QuestLog |
| 17:06.45 | Lothaer | i jsut modified a the old AtlasFu lol |
| 17:07.13 | Pkekyo | ffs, I hate insulting people in barrens...they're too dumb to understand what I'm saying :p |
| 17:07.22 | |Stan| | good morning ckknight |
| 17:07.50 | Lothaer | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=3652 ultimate barrens chat mod |
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| 17:10.27 | Lothaer | ok a tlaking subject - excluding the Blizzard UI folders on the AddOns folder and many actual mod folders are in you AddOns folder??? |
| 17:10.32 | Lothaer | mine is 170 |
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| 17:11.33 | Pkekyo | 264 here |
| 17:11.39 | Lothaer | wow |
| 17:11.56 | kaiden | on my big computer like around what pkekyo has |
| 17:11.59 | kaiden | on my laptop 186 |
| 17:12.03 | Lothaer | jesus |
| 17:12.19 | Lothaer | and how many do u use on ur main? |
| 17:12.22 | kaiden | i'm going to start cleaning it up big time though |
| 17:12.26 | kaiden | Lothaer, i have no main |
| 17:12.32 | Pkekyo | Lothaer: how much ram you got? |
| 17:12.39 | Lothaer | 768 lol |
| 17:12.43 | kaiden | my poor laptop only has 512mb :P |
| 17:12.46 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 17:12.52 | kaiden | buying a new hd for it today and 2gb of ram |
| 17:12.54 | neenee | Bah. |
| 17:12.55 | Lothaer | my vomp is about 5 years old lol |
| 17:12.57 | neenee | Stupid Dingrecorder |
| 17:13.05 | Lothaer | com* |
| 17:13.13 | neenee | It has an option to disable the interface when taking a shot, but it doesn't do sp. |
| 17:13.16 | neenee | *so |
| 17:13.16 | Pkekyo | should be sufficient for running ~250 addons...no background software though |
| 17:13.18 | neenee | *comp |
| 17:13.41 | loonacy | I have 357 folders in my addons directory, but probably about 40 of those are disabled. |
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| 17:15.49 | Lothaer | of the 170 addon folders i have i use 161of them on my main a lvl 70 priest |
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| 17:16.24 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
| 17:16.32 | Lothaer | hey buddy |
| 17:16.52 | Lothaer | did u guys here about the wow account htat sold for US$9700??? |
| 17:16.59 | kaiden | yeah |
| 17:17.00 | Nosrac | Sure did |
| 17:17.10 | cncfanatics | did it get banned yet ? |
| 17:17.12 | Nosrac | I bet his guild is out to kill him ;-) |
| 17:17.14 | Lothaer | and it ended up getting banned i feel for the idiot that bought it lol |
| 17:17.19 | Lothaer | well um |
| 17:17.32 | cncfanatics | Nosrac, his guild finished the game ? |
| 17:17.33 | kaiden | obviously the guy that bought it had so much money he didn't even care |
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| 17:17.36 | Lothaer | the dude that sold it has started another rogue and i think is back in the same guild |
| 17:17.44 | ben_ | 19:17 < Lothaer> did u guys here about the wow account htat sold for US$9700??? |
| 17:17.44 | kaiden | because no regular joe would have paid that much no matter what weapons it had |
| 17:17.46 | ben_ | "YOU" |
| 17:17.47 | ben_ | "HEAR" |
| 17:17.54 | kaiden | only someone who has absolutely no value for money |
| 17:18.00 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:18.06 | cncfanatics | ben_, who cares, we understood him |
| 17:18.10 | ben_ | cncfanatics: I care! |
| 17:18.11 | cncfanatics | well, if I was his guild |
| 17:18.12 | neenee | I care too. |
| 17:18.15 | ben_ | You should too! |
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| 17:18.16 | Lothaer | i wouldnt seel my proest no matter wat |
| 17:18.18 | Nosrac | cncfanatics: Well, I know that the guy who sold his account was one of TWO people to have both of the legendary illidan weapons, so they'd still be pretty matter |
| 17:18.24 | cncfanatics | if the guy said that in gchat |
| 17:18.28 | Nosrac | pretty mad*** :-? |
| 17:18.30 | cncfanatics | hey, I can get 7000€ for my acc |
| 17:18.36 | cncfanatics | lets get the bucks & share it with teh guild ? |
| 17:18.38 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: was banned long time ago |
| 17:18.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49537 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix nil bug |
| 17:18.44 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, I know |
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| 17:19.01 | cncfanatics | either way, if I was him, I would have taken the cash, started another rogue & share the cash with my fellow guildies |
| 17:19.05 | Lothaer | ben_ no offence but QQ mate |
| 17:19.11 | kenlyric | shit, i'd be happy to sell my account for 5% of that. |
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| 17:19.21 | Nosrac | lol |
| 17:19.24 | Nosrac | same =) |
| 17:19.25 | Lothaer | hey cnc wats ur mains name? |
| 17:19.30 | ben_ | Lothaer: No offense, but you are a fucking retard and should get the hell off my internets. |
| 17:19.48 | cncfanatics | Lothaer, I got a few mains, depends what one u mean :p |
| 17:19.51 | kenlyric | I can't even figure out what this fight is about. |
| 17:19.54 | neenee | egh |
| 17:19.59 | Lothaer | the best geared lol |
| 17:20.03 | cncfanatics | evolve, paladin |
| 17:20.07 | cncfanatics | but meh, he's on a dead server |
| 17:20.11 | cncfanatics | I'm rerolling on a nondead server |
| 17:20.15 | Lothaer | wat server? |
| 17:20.17 | kenlyric | is someone actually mad that a player was able to get $10,000 for a wow account? |
| 17:20.22 | kenlyric | i'm jealous, not mad. |
| 17:20.26 | ben_ | kenlyric: same |
| 17:20.35 | cncfanatics | !c eu khadgar evolve |
| 17:20.38 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 13147 HP; 4428 Mana; 81 mana regen; 16127 Armour; 596 AP; 88.100 Melee DPS; 5.65% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 245 +spell dmg/heal; 287 defense; 19.32% dodge; 20.91% block; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 768 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bl7uf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36eekt ][ Updated: Sat Sep 22 13:34:45 2007 EST ]] |
| 17:20.41 | Lothaer | i also heard that sum1 sold the spectral tiger mount on ebay for $2000 |
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| 17:20.56 | cncfanatics | Lothaer, why u ask ? |
| 17:20.59 | *** part/#wowace cogwheel (n=noemail@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:20.59 | neenee | Ben - swearing at people is worse than not caring about spelling I think. |
| 17:21.06 | Lothaer | just wanna check him/her out lol |
| 17:21.09 | ben_ | neenee: No, it is not. |
| 17:21.15 | cncfanatics | Lothaer, i'm rerolling atm, haven't played for ages |
| 17:21.16 | kenlyric | fuck spelling. |
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| 17:21.24 | neenee | To me it is :) |
| 17:21.31 | cncfanatics | ben_, fuck spelling as long as u understand said person and said person ain't bitching about spelling |
| 17:21.31 | ben_ | Swearing does not force other people to spend extra effort on deciphering what I am saying. |
| 17:21.32 | neenee | And there we have it - opinion. |
| 17:21.46 | ben_ | neenee: Well, your opinion is wrong. |
| 17:21.53 | Lothaer | who gives a damn really this isnt english class |
| 17:21.57 | cncfanatics | opinion and wrong should not go in the same phrase ben_ |
| 17:21.58 | neenee | Opinions never are :) |
| 17:22.07 | cncfanatics | opinions are not wrong, thats what makes them god damn oppinions |
| 17:22.09 | ben_ | neenee: Okay, it is my opinion that 1 == 2. RESPECT IT! |
| 17:22.13 | Ayhan | Hello, How could I know the difference with RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE() method, if the player left the raid or just sth else happened (like s.o. else joined the raid or s.o's group got changed) . Or is there anything else to get this.. |
| 17:22.13 | cncfanatics | s/oppinion/opinion/ |
| 17:22.14 | neenee | .. |
| 17:22.14 | Lothaer | lol a prot wpaladin since when could paladins tank??? |
| 17:22.17 | ckknight | Lothaer: spelling correctly makes us understand you better. |
| 17:22.22 | kenlyric | I saw this movie where ben was a rat. |
| 17:22.23 | Lukian | Lothaer, yeah it sold for 2k, but they usually go for a fair bit less :P (about 400-600) |
| 17:22.25 | neenee | Have a nice evening ben. |
| 17:22.28 | ben_ | Lothaer: It is a text based medium. You are expected to spend a minimum of effort on trying to make yourself understood. |
| 17:22.36 | kenlyric | daepgfik[j gaj[ipsdfapoli sfgdji gfljflj |
| 17:22.41 | kenlyric | does anyone else agree with me? |
| 17:22.49 | Gngsk | no |
| 17:22.52 | Lukian | dkjfsdl ! |
| 17:22.53 | Lukian | :D |
| 17:22.57 | kenlyric | fuck you jinx! |
| 17:22.59 | Deathra | kenlyric iojasou4y8391u4 ok? |
| 17:23.01 | Lothaer | mum |
| 17:23.05 | Gngsk | let's agree to disagree |
| 17:23.12 | kenlyric | I don't agree to that. |
| 17:23.17 | Deathra | You don't? Idiot |
| 17:23.18 | Lothaer | that is spelt correctly |
| 17:23.41 | Ayhan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.57 | cncfanatics | Ayhan, compare the raid roster before & after the event |
| 17:24.26 | Ayhan | hmm long story^^ |
| 17:24.38 | Tuller | I actually yelled at my friend about that a while ago |
| 17:24.46 | Gngsk | don't hide, just leave. nobody wants your routes and you certainly aren't gonna get 10k for them! |
| 17:24.57 | Tuller | years of playing diablo had destroyed his ability to type with words |
| 17:25.07 | Pkekyo | HELL YEAH! wtfbbqpwnd Gamon! |
| 17:25.15 | Pkekyo | guild first kill |
| 17:25.25 | Lothaer | so project Hydra. |
| 17:26.10 | Ayhan | cncfanatics: Do you have any idea how to find If a player joined to a raid he just left(or the latest raid he left) |
| 17:26.55 | *** join/#wowace Shwei (n=Shwei@142-54.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 17:27.18 | Pkekyo | chat messages? "Name has left the raid", "Name has joined the raid"? |
| 17:28.01 | Ayhan | but its the addon user who leaves and joins |
| 17:28.15 | Pkekyo | make an addon that makes lists of both events, then compare them? |
| 17:28.26 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 17:28.29 | cncfanatics | Ayhan, ain't there any PLAYER_JOINED_GROUP events ? |
| 17:28.50 | Pkekyo | Ayhan: could take a random sample of one name per group in the raid and compare it? |
| 17:29.22 | Ayhan | ye that a solution a can think but wanted to ask if there is an easy way:D thanks |
| 17:29.38 | Ayhan | lol bad syntax^^ |
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| 17:30.58 | neenee | Hm. |
| 17:31.11 | neenee | Is there an addon which creates screenshots when a character levels which hides the interface? |
| 17:32.38 | neenee | Or is there some lua command to hide the interface? |
| 17:32.53 | Nosrac | I believe so, neenee |
| 17:33.08 | neenee | Interface:Hide or something |
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| 17:33.40 | Nosrac | Would a UIParent:Hide be a bad thing? |
| 17:33.50 | Nosrac | Don't test till someone says yes or no, neenee ;-P |
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| 17:33.59 | neenee | I won't. |
| 17:34.13 | nymbia | iirc that's exactly what alt-z does |
| 17:34.14 | Nosrac | Good, I know there's something thatt when you hide makes your wow unhappy ;-P |
| 17:34.26 | Nosrac | k, though so |
| 17:35.13 | Shwei | anyone good with ArkInventory? |
| 17:35.31 | Nosrac | In what aspects? |
| 17:35.43 | neenee | okay. Thanks nymbia |
| 17:35.51 | neenee | adding that to the addon |
| 17:35.53 | Shwei | I'm looking for a way to limit the number of rows per column in each container. |
| 17:36.07 | Nosrac | Make sure it shows it at the end, neenee |
| 17:36.13 | neenee | Oh. good point |
| 17:36.17 | Nosrac | ;-P |
| 17:36.31 | Nosrac | Shwei: Not sure how to do that ;-) |
| 17:36.34 | neenee | there, done. trying it out now |
| 17:36.41 | Shwei | ah well, thanks anyway |
| 17:36.46 | Nosrac | The tough part: leveling! |
| 17:36.57 | Fisker- | nymbia |
| 17:36.58 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 17:36.58 | neenee | Nah, I just create a level 1 character |
| 17:37.04 | Nosrac | lol |
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| 17:37.58 | nymbia | Fisker-: NO U |
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| 17:38.52 | Fisker- | no u :( |
| 17:39.01 | nymbia | <3 |
| 17:39.03 | Nosrac | lol |
| 17:39.23 | Fisker- | i didn't authorize a <3 |
| 17:39.35 | nymbia | that's harsh Fisker- |
| 17:39.38 | nymbia | you cut me deep :( |
| 17:39.48 | Fisker- | you started it |
| 17:39.59 | nymbia | lies!! |
| 17:40.04 | alcohol | [iTunes] K-Os - Born to Run (Atlantis: Hymns for Disco/192kbps/4:48m) |
| 17:40.05 | alcohol | <3 |
| 17:40.12 | Fisker- | <-transformers |
| 17:40.24 | JCinDE | afternoon folks |
| 17:40.29 | neenee | There, levelled |
| 17:40.30 | neenee | trying it |
| 17:40.33 | neenee | Hi JCinDE |
| 17:40.36 | alcohol | t'is almost evening man. :< |
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| 17:40.39 | cncfanatics | touch of zanzil is nasty |
| 17:40.47 | neenee | Drat, didn't work |
| 17:40.50 | JCinDE | Does Schelli lurk here? (Author of TrackerFu) |
| 17:41.00 | neenee | Ah well, it'll just have to be a shot with the interface then. |
| 17:41.03 | neenee | Better than nothing ;) |
| 17:41.11 | JCinDE | I've made it work again...trying to track him down to give him the changes |
| 17:41.46 | Nosrac | neenee: Go to www.ace.pastey.net and paste the code there, someone (maybe even me!) can surely help ya |
| 17:41.55 | neenee | Hm. It's a lot though |
| 17:41.59 | neenee | As I am using another addon for it |
| 17:42.03 | neenee | But let me strip the addon now |
| 17:42.07 | neenee | Perhaps I can make it a bit more basic. |
| 17:42.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Antiarc |
| 17:42.09 | purl | ACTION runs at Antiarc with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 17:42.20 | Nosrac | Well, just the 10 lines surrounding your addition ;-P |
| 17:42.41 | Nosrac | additions* |
| 17:42.50 | Lothaer | lol horde are so stupid some times |
| 17:43.05 | Lothaer | i kited this unded hunter to SS ROFL and the gurds raped him LOL!!! |
| 17:43.05 | Nosrac | Lothaer: Everyon'e stupid some times ;-P |
| 17:43.19 | Nosrac | rofl |
| 17:43.31 | Nosrac | Stupid people make me laugh ;-/ |
| 17:44.07 | neenee | dinner first now. |
| 17:44.13 | neenee | or I'll never have food |
| 17:44.32 | Nosrac | lol |
| 17:45.01 | neenee | I'd just be sitting here with the lights off, editing an addon and playing for hours. |
| 17:45.23 | Pkekyo | how can I reset the levels prat has recorded to people? |
| 17:45.48 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 17:45.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i broke something |
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| 17:46.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [2007/09/22 19:45:01-241-x4]: <string>:"*:OnMouseDown":2: Frame CartographerLookNFeelNonOverlayHolder is not movable |
| 17:46.20 | sag_ich_nicht | <string>:"*:OnMouseDown":2: in function <[string "*:OnMouseDown"]:1> |
| 17:46.20 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.21 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 17:46.23 | sag_ich_nicht | wrong window |
| 17:46.24 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry. |
| 17:46.28 | Nosrac | lol |
| 17:46.38 | sag_ich_nicht | http://ace.pastey.net/74217 |
| 17:46.41 | neenee | kaiden - screenshot of Caithlyn's? |
| 17:46.46 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the window it should to to >< |
| 17:46.49 | sag_ich_nicht | *go to |
| 17:47.21 | |Stan| | neenee: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1266/comky6.jpg |
| 17:48.35 | Gngsk | neenee, is that your UI? |
| 17:49.16 | neenee | Gngsk, No, that is Catelyn's apparently. |
| 17:49.16 | sag_ich_nicht | japp |
| 17:49.35 | Pkekyo | jesus titty fucking christ! |
| 17:49.36 | Pkekyo | 4x Linen Cloth on AH for 99g bid, 199g buyout O.o |
| 17:50.01 | neenee | Hm. though it looks nice, I need more room for buttons. Though perhaps he or she uses alt/ctrl to switch when holding the button |
| 17:50.01 | Gngsk | oh, wonder if the screen was taken in that are of zangar because it matches the color of the frames |
| 17:50.17 | neenee | I doubt the colours are adaptive Ggngsk. |
| 17:50.17 | JCinDE | that's the cross faction AH right? |
| 17:50.38 | Pkekyo | JCinDE: orgrimmar AH |
| 17:50.43 | Gilded | Pkekyo: That's a new gold seller technique. |
| 17:50.55 | Sirow | hm, doesn't SpecialEvents_UnitBuffGained(unitID, ...) fire for target/focus? |
| 17:50.57 | Gngsk | I know, I'm saying did she go there to specifically take the screen or was it just hapenstance |
| 17:51.31 | Gilded | Pkekyo: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/20/how-gold-sellers-are-transacting-business-these-days/ |
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| 17:52.34 | JCinDE | that's great...going to make it so even non gold sellers can get banned just for being stupid...but that's not such a bad thing |
| 17:52.51 | Gilded | Seems like an even easier method to track. |
| 17:53.28 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:53.34 | JCinDE | *twiddle* |
| 17:53.35 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight |
| 17:53.44 | ckknight | yes? |
| 17:54.20 | sag_ich_nicht | http://ace.pastey.net/74218 |
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| 17:55.30 | sag_ich_nicht | wait nvm |
| 17:55.34 | sag_ich_nicht | seems to be coming from hotspot |
| 17:56.34 | sag_ich_nicht | why the hell is that even installed |
| 17:56.35 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
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| 18:03.36 | Cartas | Hm...! |
| 18:03.40 | Cartas | ~lastseen Kaelton |
| 18:03.52 | Wobin | ~seen kaelten |
| 18:03.54 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 37m 7s ago, saying: 'site should feel faster now though'. |
| 18:03.57 | Cartas | Thanks old chap! :d |
| 18:04.03 | Nosrac | lol |
| 18:04.08 | Cartas | Just going to look up his name, hehe. |
| 18:04.18 | Cartas | 17 hours?! |
| 18:04.27 | Cartas | Isn't he usually here 24/7? |
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| 18:07.12 | ckknight | not in the slightest, Cartas |
| 18:07.21 | Cartas | Ah, I see... one of the slackers! |
| 18:07.27 | Cartas | Not like you or I, eh, CKKnight? |
| 18:07.41 | ckknight | :-P |
| 18:08.02 | Fisker- | one should think that transformers are made by retards |
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| 18:11.01 | Industrial | ~seen Fin |
| 18:11.02 | purl | fin <i=PJIRCUse@r5da17.net.upc.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 19h 9m 20s ago, saying: 'nope... this sucks the hard one, it's quite good but well, no'. |
| 18:11.06 | Industrial | asdfasdf;lkgbjkp;gtjk |
| 18:11.15 | Cartas | ~seen Industrial |
| 18:11.16 | purl | industrial is currently on #wowi-lounge (21h 34m 47s) #wowace (21h 34m 47s). Has said a total of 33 messages. Is idling for 10s, last said: 'asdfasdf;lkgbjkp;gtjk'. |
| 18:11.20 | Industrial | Cartas: LULZ HAI |
| 18:11.24 | Cartas | Logout now so that stays... |
| 18:11.25 | Cartas | You ruined it. |
| 18:11.29 | Cartas | Hi old chap! |
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| 18:13.11 | |Stan| | ckknight: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7535/colorbugyl7.png -- why does the panelcolor look so much different from the color in the preview? |
| 18:13.46 | ckknight | |Stan|: this is CowTip? |
| 18:13.52 | ckknight | or what? |
| 18:13.54 | neenee | ok. Addon time |
| 18:14.13 | |Stan| | ckknight: no, eepanels2 |
| 18:14.28 | ckknight | oh |
| 18:14.30 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 18:14.40 | ckknight | likely because he isn't using white8x8 |
| 18:14.40 | |Stan| | but it works correct when I set it through the normal color picker |
| 18:15.11 | |Stan| | it seems like rock config is messing up the rgb values |
| 18:15.32 | ckknight | I strongly doubt that |
| 18:15.54 | Cairenn | for anyone interested, we're raffling off 10 copies of the Hacking WoW book: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12364 |
| 18:16.04 | |Stan| | hm what else could be the problem? |
| 18:17.29 | |Stan| | ckknight: I entered 61/74/64 in rock config. in the normal color chooser it is displayed as 24/29/25 |
| 18:17.57 | ckknight | because the normal color choose does it [0, 100] whereas RockConfig does it [0, 255] |
| 18:18.09 | cncfanatics | means it matches |
| 18:18.15 | cncfanatics | 61/255*100 = 24 |
| 18:19.22 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fheboxZGfV0MVzxMGot is this a good raid dps build, anyone ? |
| 18:19.31 | cncfanatics | messing with specs for my future rogue atm |
| 18:20.30 | neenee | okay. Addon done, trying it out |
| 18:22.14 | cncfanatics | need reboot, brb |
| 18:22.17 | |Stan| | ckknight: still wierd...I got the correct RGB values from my image editing program but none of the color choosers in wow are able to set the correct colors :/ |
| 18:22.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 18:22.54 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (i=evolve@229.96-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:23.14 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: yes, very much so |
| 18:23.20 | Gnarfoz | but you don't really need imp. kick |
| 18:23.30 | cncfanatics | its filler |
| 18:23.33 | cncfanatics | nowhere else to put it in is there ? |
| 18:23.33 | neenee | hm. error. trying again |
| 18:23.34 | dylanm | Gnarfoz: True that. |
| 18:24.29 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: probably the cd thingy in that tree |
| 18:24.37 | Gnarfoz | endurance |
| 18:24.38 | neenee | Well, no errors during loading. |
| 18:24.52 | dylanm | They're both kinda crummy. |
| 18:25.31 | neenee | But then again, I reduced 248 lines to 7, so there's not much there to break =] |
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| 18:25.51 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz, not a bad idea, sec, let me tweak |
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| 18:27.48 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboxZGIVbbVzxMGot Gnarfoz ? |
| 18:27.59 | alcohol | cncfanatics: not true, why not get reduced cooldown on sprint and evasion ? especially the later is useful in tough situations |
| 18:28.29 | cncfanatics | check new linky alcohol ? :) |
| 18:28.37 | alcohol | :> |
| 18:29.09 | alcohol | improved sprint is mainly useful in pvp vs. mages though |
| 18:29.16 | neenee | Hm. No screenshot was made. |
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| 18:30.22 | neenee | http://ace.pastey.net/74222 - Can anyone have a look at this and perhaps tell me what I'm missing? |
| 18:30.26 | cncfanatics | like the build for pve raiding though alcohol ?$ |
| 18:30.41 | neenee | I'm trying to take a screenshot when dinging, with the yellow glow, but without the interface |
| 18:30.53 | alcohol | I can't be sure, I've never played a rogue that far |
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| 18:32.53 | ckknight | alright, cya later |
| 18:33.26 | JoshBorke | bye bye |
| 18:33.39 | cncfanatics | cya ckknight |
| 18:33.44 | neenee | Nosrac - are you available? |
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| 18:34.12 | Nosrac | Yep |
| 18:34.25 | neenee | Would you mind taking a look at what I pasted? |
| 18:34.27 | Xinhuan | morning :) |
| 18:34.31 | neenee | Hi Xinhuan |
| 18:34.38 | Nosrac | Opening right now |
| 18:34.46 | Xinhuan | whats up today |
| 18:35.20 | neenee | oki |
| 18:37.59 | alcohol | cncfanatics: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fheboxZGeVb0Et0MMoz -- what I'd go for, but purely because I like the dagger/mace combo ^^' |
| 18:38.11 | cncfanatics | think i'm going swords :) |
| 18:38.12 | alcohol | personal preference > guild opinion |
| 18:38.13 | alcohol | to me anyway |
| 18:38.19 | cncfanatics | well, I'm a reroller |
| 18:38.24 | cncfanatics | I like melee dps so :) rerolling rogue |
| 18:38.27 | cncfanatics | lvl 20 atm lolz |
| 18:38.29 | cncfanatics | just planning early |
| 18:38.46 | cncfanatics | no combat potency ? :o |
| 18:38.54 | cncfanatics | and 2 specs is a waste :) |
| 18:39.02 | alcohol | yea i forgot cp |
| 18:39.12 | alcohol | was already wondering why I hadn't reached 40 points yet |
| 18:39.12 | alcohol | x.x |
| 18:39.15 | cncfanatics | u shld use 2 same weps rly :p |
| 18:39.25 | alcohol | so i stuffed some random points elsewhere :p |
| 18:39.26 | alcohol | why? |
| 18:39.33 | alcohol | I should do whatever I feel like :P |
| 18:39.35 | cncfanatics | 5 more talent points freed up ? :p |
| 18:39.47 | cncfanatics | or u shldnt spec ur offhand wep, only 25% of MH dmg anyway |
| 18:39.53 | Nosrac | neenee: The code looks fine :-/ I'll tinker with it for a few minutes ;-) |
| 18:40.03 | neenee | Nosrac - okidoki. Thanks :) |
| 18:40.43 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: nah, sprint is a waste of points, imho ^^ just put 2 in dodge, 0 in sprint and put the 3 points you get by that in imp. evisc |
| 18:40.50 | Gnarfoz | you'll not use it often, but you will use it some times ^^ |
| 18:40.57 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz, I missed that talent, indeed |
| 18:42.34 | cncfanatics | hmmm, 3 points left I dunno where to put |
| 18:42.53 | cncfanatics | aah yea murder, missed it |
| 18:43.08 | cncfanatics | 1 pnt left :p |
| 18:43.15 | cncfanatics | dodge I guess |
| 18:43.24 | cncfanatics | actualy, why not take parry instead of dodge ? |
| 18:45.53 | alcohol | it's more to get riposte, pvp spec |
| 18:46.24 | Grum | http://grum.nl/images/terrokar.jpg |
| 18:46.42 | Grum | does that qualify somewhat for cheating? O.o |
| 18:47.30 | dreamss | i that made with an addon? |
| 18:47.54 | Nosrac | neenee: It needs a small delay after the TakeScreenshot |
| 18:48.28 | Xinhuan | it actually looks pretty good grum |
| 18:48.38 | Nosrac | Screenshot takes more than an instant, I guess |
| 18:48.43 | Grum | dreamss: that is how my wow is running indeed :) |
| 18:48.43 | Lukian | whoa nice |
| 18:48.47 | neenee | Nosrac Oh. How would I put that in? |
| 18:48.54 | Nosrac | No idea =) |
| 18:48.56 | Lukian | Talented can pull up other people full talent trees in game using Rock :D |
| 18:49.10 | neenee | okay |
| 18:49.17 | Nosrac | Sweet! |
| 18:49.42 | Nosrac | Alright. I gotsta go, sorry I couldn't help you further, neenee |
| 18:50.28 | Nickenyfiken | Grum: hows that addon coming along? |
| 18:50.37 | Nickenyfiken | Beta yet? |
| 18:50.56 | neenee | No worries, Have a nice evening :) |
| 18:51.21 | Lukian | Anyone familiar with the paladin prot tree? (actual tanking use) |
| 18:54.50 | Grum | Nickenyfiken: likely will never be released because it would be bad for wow :) |
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| 18:55.54 | vithos | Grum: nice work, been thinking i should write that as my first addon heh |
| 18:56.30 | cncfanatics | Grum, whats that ? |
| 18:56.47 | cncfanatics | some herba circuit calculator ? |
| 18:56.56 | vithos | cncfanatics: the most efficient routes, a la graph theory |
| 18:56.57 | Lukian | shortest route to pass over all nodes |
| 18:57.17 | cncfanatics | WTB |
| 18:57.20 | cncfanatics | WTB |
| 18:57.31 | Lukian | He'll take US$250 for it :p |
| 18:57.32 | Nickenyfiken | Grum: meh :-P |
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| 18:57.35 | vithos | there would be game theory problems with actually releasing it |
| 18:57.40 | cncfanatics | like ? |
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| 18:57.48 | vithos | if everyone's using it, it's no longer the best route |
| 18:57.49 | Olison | to clean up libs i dont need anymore, is it a good idea to move all Lib* folders out of the AddOns Folder and run WAU with "update with externals"? |
| 18:57.56 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 18:57.56 | winkiller | how can I change the background texture of frames in pitbull now? |
| 18:58.02 | Nickenyfiken | Then addons like Auctioneer shouldn't be released either |
| 18:58.05 | cncfanatics | vithos, then only give it to some select people *cough me* |
| 18:58.24 | Grum | vithos: it actually will be the best route from a pure point of view |
| 18:58.34 | Grum | you fly along all known nodes in the shortest amount of time |
| 18:58.49 | cncfanatics | can you remove some nodes ? |
| 18:58.54 | cncfanatics | if you think they're too remote |
| 18:59.00 | vithos | only if there's nobody else on your realm |
| 18:59.18 | cncfanatics | and actualy, the way u'd do that is to find out the node thats closest to the current one and has not been selected yet ? then draw a line to it |
| 18:59.25 | cncfanatics | doesnt sound too hard to make as an addon |
| 18:59.31 | vithos | it's more complicated than that |
| 18:59.44 | vithos | there's no solution to the problem, actually |
| 18:59.55 | Xinhuan | the best solution is generated using Ant Algorithms |
| 18:59.59 | Xinhuan | or Genetic Algorithms |
| 19:00.08 | cncfanatics | which are ,? -.- |
| 19:00.19 | vithos | look up Traveling Salesman Problem |
| 19:00.20 | Xinhuan | which only takes about 100 iterations to zoom in to veary near optimal solution for the best path |
| 19:00.24 | neenee | wow. |
| 19:00.28 | Xinhuan | it is a NP-Hard problem |
| 19:00.30 | neenee | I just saw a new player use a bot :| |
| 19:00.36 | neenee | level 1 random name, bah. |
| 19:00.49 | cncfanatics | Grum, release it |
| 19:00.57 | cncfanatics | ~poke Grum |
| 19:00.58 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Grum, pokes Grum repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:01.01 | Xinhuan | what algorithm are you using to generate the path Grum? |
| 19:01.47 | Grum | Xinhuan: tsp solver |
| 19:01.58 | Grum | not ingame btw |
| 19:02.01 | Deathra | Release! |
| 19:02.04 | Grum | these are precalculated data-sets |
| 19:02.12 | vithos | oh not ingame |
| 19:02.21 | Xinhuan | if you ever release this addon, i can help you with writing a efficient real-time code to solve TSP |
| 19:02.35 | Tornhoof | way too computationaly intensive to solve it in lua |
| 19:02.37 | Xinhuan | cos i've done it before lol |
| 19:02.43 | Xinhuan | not true torn |
| 19:02.43 | Grum | i dont want this to be done ingame tbh |
| 19:02.59 | cncfanatics | Grum, its a nice addon, u shld rly release it :) |
| 19:02.59 | Grum | it's quite easy if you use a simple ACO |
| 19:03.00 | Xinhuan | it can be done in game, only takes about 2 seconds to generate a near-optimal path |
| 19:03.14 | Xinhuan | the user only needs to generate the path once and you dont have to generate it again until the user chooses to do it |
| 19:03.19 | Xinhuan | so time used isn't really an issue |
| 19:03.34 | Grum | 1 downside - i dont want everyone following the same path |
| 19:03.38 | Lukian | If you do that ^ then let the user use their own cartographer dataset :p |
| 19:03.39 | Grum | so i have a problem now |
| 19:03.45 | Lukian | rather than mined data. |
| 19:03.55 | Xinhuan | if you used ACO, it will be slightly different everytime you generate a path |
| 19:04.14 | dodga | Xinhuan: I'm interested. How would you go about solving TSP efficiently? AFAIK is NP-hard and therefore everything that is not "brute force" is kind of heuristic, isn't it? |
| 19:04.20 | Grum | Xinhuan: depends on the start point and the amount of interations |
| 19:04.29 | Tornhoof | it is always heuristic |
| 19:04.31 | vithos | heuristics are good enough |
| 19:04.33 | Xinhuan | well dodga, you will find that ACO is very efficient |
| 19:04.43 | Tornhoof | just take some genetic algorithm with limited population and generations |
| 19:04.43 | Grum | aco with correct values is good enough |
| 19:04.49 | Xinhuan | and generally speaking, ACO will find a optimal path within about 100 iterations |
| 19:04.56 | Lukian | Seems if you don't release it Grum, someone else will ;) |
| 19:04.57 | Xinhuan | but you can let it run to about 500 iterations |
| 19:04.57 | Tornhoof | and you'll likely have different paths anyway |
| 19:04.58 | dodga | Xinhuan: Excuse my ignorance, but what is ACO :D |
| 19:05.08 | JoshBorke | ~wiki aco |
| 19:05.15 | Xinhuan | Ant Colony |
| 19:05.19 | Tornhoof | ant colony optimizations |
| 19:05.20 | Xinhuan | Ant Colony Optimization |
| 19:05.23 | dodga | Ah I see |
| 19:05.31 | dodga | Never had anything done with that :D |
| 19:05.33 | Xinhuan | it is a algo that is based on real life ant behavior |
| 19:05.35 | Grum | Lukian: problem is that if i release this addon without any routing-creation in it |
| 19:05.40 | Grum | people will write it |
| 19:05.40 | Xinhuan | in laying down hormone trails |
| 19:05.46 | dodga | Though I passwd an exam about evolutionary algorithms :D |
| 19:05.51 | Xinhuan | such that ants always find the shortest path between their food and their hive |
| 19:05.52 | Grum | pheromone - not hormone |
| 19:05.57 | Xinhuan | well yeah |
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| 19:06.08 | dodga | Yeah heard of it |
| 19:06.09 | Grum | i do not want that people follow 'one true path' |
| 19:06.15 | Xinhuan | still, it is very efficient and respond well to dynamic situations such as a pathway being closed due to a blockage |
| 19:06.16 | Tornhoof | writing the algo isn't the problem ;) |
| 19:06.26 | Grum | so the only option would be not releasing the addon O.o |
| 19:06.31 | Tornhoof | and actually as soon as you release a version with different paths |
| 19:06.35 | Lukian | someone write AutoTravel again ^^ |
| 19:06.41 | Lukian | that was the best :p |
| 19:06.42 | Grum | but then it's only time which will decide if someone will make it again |
| 19:06.44 | Tornhoof | someone will write an aco version ;) |
| 19:06.51 | Grum | yup |
| 19:06.53 | dodga | Actually, I find it pretty neat, that WoW makes people come up with things as graph theory and such :D |
| 19:07.02 | Xinhuan | well everyone's data set will be slightly different |
| 19:07.21 | Grum | not really |
| 19:07.21 | cncfanatics | Grum, if you don't release it someone else will probably |
| 19:07.25 | Tornhoof | i dunno i'm neither minor nor herbalist |
| 19:07.28 | Xinhuan | and every ACO path will be different - within a limit based on your settings of the ACO algo |
| 19:07.29 | Grum | this one is the one from wowhead O.o |
| 19:07.33 | Xinhuan | which you can allow the user to set |
| 19:07.33 | Lukian | cncfanatics, I just said that :D |
| 19:07.44 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, most people use pregenerated maps from wowhead |
| 19:07.45 | Grum | i used something which a bit more cpupower to solve the tsps |
| 19:07.45 | Tornhoof | sell your idea to wowhead ;) |
| 19:07.59 | Lukian | cncfanatics, do you really think so? |
| 19:08.06 | Grum | but this will seriously fuck up the gathering people will do :( |
| 19:08.08 | cncfanatics | well, I know all nonstupid people do |
| 19:08.15 | Xinhuan | if you did that grum, it doesn't prevent someone to release pregenerated TSP maps already precalculated |
| 19:08.17 | Lukian | Grum, not really! :) |
| 19:08.29 | Grum | it will |
| 19:08.34 | Xinhuan | and you overestimate the ability of farmers using the same route to farm |
| 19:08.43 | cncfanatics | if I was you i'd sell ur code to wowhead and make some bucks out of it :p |
| 19:08.49 | Xinhuan | most people aren't farmers remember? |
| 19:08.50 | Grum | nothing special on the code tbh |
| 19:08.57 | Tornhoof | how random are the respawns of the different nodes anyway? |
| 19:08.58 | Grum | i havent coded the TSP myself |
| 19:09.02 | Grum | cba to do that |
| 19:09.11 | cncfanatics | Tornhoof, *quite* random |
| 19:09.19 | cncfanatics | random enough that probably 50%ish of the nodes will be up |
| 19:09.26 | Grum | ~15% orso |
| 19:09.31 | Lukian | or less, because people do them anyway |
| 19:09.33 | JoshBorke | FUCK |
| 19:09.34 | Xinhuan | i'll do it if you want Grum, about 1-2 days is enough, since i have reference code from other projects i did |
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| 19:09.47 | Tornhoof | as in quite for each node, or when you find one node and another node like 100yr away, that both nodes will always be there at the same time? |
| 19:09.53 | Grum | Xinhuan: humz would be sweet if that would be ingame |
| 19:09.54 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, using ingame cartographer data ? |
| 19:09.59 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 19:10.02 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 19:10.09 | Xinhuan | using ingame carto data |
| 19:10.09 | Grum | downside is that i still need to release this addon |
| 19:10.12 | Grum | and then maintain it |
| 19:10.13 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, if u do that ur my god :p |
| 19:10.37 | Xinhuan | its not difficult, but i don't want to write the UI for drawing all those lines - grum's already done that |
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| 19:10.42 | CIA-22 | Historian: |
| 19:10.42 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a problem with the food/drink tracking caused by the translation changes. |
| 19:10.51 | Grum | GAHHH |
| 19:11.06 | Grum | got a serious moral issue here :D |
| 19:11.16 | cncfanatics | Grum, just release it |
| 19:11.25 | Xinhuan | i dont know, if you don't release the addon, someone ni the future will just write one anyway |
| 19:11.28 | cncfanatics | u released the map for the most used area already anyway, the bad is done |
| 19:11.34 | Grum | not really |
| 19:11.38 | Grum | just a screenie :D |
| 19:11.50 | cncfanatics | u realise I could strip that, convert it to tga and show it ingame right? |
| 19:11.52 | Lukian | you edited that data? :P |
| 19:11.53 | Lukian | hehe |
| 19:12.10 | JoshBorke | grum: you have a moral issue about creating a mod that finds a path? |
| 19:12.10 | Grum | cnc: you would not be able to use it as well as my addon |
| 19:12.22 | cncfanatics | Grum, maybe, but its something :) release it :) |
| 19:12.30 | Grum | JoshBorke: only a moral issue against making 'the ultimate' route available to *every fucking one* |
| 19:12.31 | Tornhoof | you should have stopped at your second year in computer science then ;) |
| 19:12.42 | Lukian | haha |
| 19:12.50 | Tornhoof | at no time you will have that ultimate route anyway |
| 19:12.55 | Grum | this basicly means that any advantage i'd have with this current addon would be completely lost and most people would just follow 'that' route |
| 19:12.59 | Tornhoof | since if there are only 15% of the nodes up at the same time |
| 19:13.08 | Grum | it's still the ultimate route |
| 19:13.11 | Tornhoof | there are shitloads of better routes then the one you're calculated |
| 19:13.18 | Tornhoof | no it's the most generic one |
| 19:13.19 | Grum | since you check *all* spawnpoints in the shortest amount of time |
| 19:13.26 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 19:13.29 | Grum | nope, it's the shortest route along all spawnpoints |
| 19:13.44 | Xinhuan | doesn't mean everyone will follow that path |
| 19:13.46 | cncfanatics | if you know any additional data it aint the best route anymore |
| 19:13.57 | cncfanatics | if I for example know someone is camping all eastern nodes |
| 19:13.58 | Grum | what additional data? |
| 19:14.02 | cncfanatics | then i'm just gonna stick west |
| 19:14.13 | Xinhuan | also we can release an ACO that has slightly "less than optimal" variables so that the path that is generated isn't truly optimal |
| 19:14.17 | Grum | problem i see is that everyone will just follow 'that route' |
| 19:14.17 | Tornhoof | which is certainly not the optimal route for the current herbs |
| 19:14.32 | Grum | because it's easy etc |
| 19:14.33 | cncfanatics | then put some randomness in the paths |
| 19:14.38 | Lukian | add random ! :p |
| 19:14.38 | Tornhoof | no |
| 19:14.40 | Xinhuan | in the sense that each time the user generates a path, it won't be the same path, it would have slight differences |
| 19:14.41 | Tornhoof | that won't work |
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| 19:14.47 | Grum | but then it's not optimal anymore |
| 19:14.50 | Grum | and thus i will not use it |
| 19:14.53 | Tornhoof | anyone with a certain knowlegde can easily tune those |
| 19:15.06 | Xinhuan | Grum, another thing is that users may want to generate paths not specific to each herb type |
| 19:15.07 | Lukian | yeah true |
| 19:15.14 | Xinhuan | maybe they only want a path with 2 specific herbs |
| 19:15.17 | Xinhuan | or include all herbs in it |
| 19:15.18 | Grum | Xinhuan: yup |
| 19:15.25 | Xinhuan | or if they are a miner + herb, htey want it all |
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| 19:15.32 | Xinhuan | so the paths will be different for each person |
| 19:15.40 | Xinhuan | you're oversensitive to "the one true path" |
| 19:15.42 | Grum | but to do that i really need to incorporate some better pathing |
| 19:15.55 | Grum | atm it's from node-center to node-center |
| 19:16.03 | Grum | eventhough you see them from ~30yds orso |
| 19:16.12 | Xinhuan | and that is good enough Grum |
| 19:16.23 | Xinhuan | people will cut corners |
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| 19:16.27 | Xinhuan | the path is just a guideline |
| 19:16.30 | Xinhuan | that is drawn |
| 19:16.34 | Lukian | Grum, things load after I fly over them on an epic flying mount :( |
| 19:16.35 | vithos | you could get a different path though |
| 19:16.49 | Xinhuan | it won't be too different vithos ;p |
| 19:17.04 | Tornhoof | heh i already use GAs for equip optimization, i hhave no problem with a tsp solver in lua for mining and stuff |
| 19:17.11 | Xinhuan | if you're really concerned about that 30 yard range, then just deduct 60 yards between the distance of any 2 nodes |
| 19:17.25 | Xinhuan | and you will have the result you want |
| 19:17.26 | Grum | xin, well that wont really work |
| 19:17.37 | vithos | Xinhuan: think of the case where you've got two parts of the path that go parallel for a while that are close to each other but far apart in the path |
| 19:17.49 | Tornhoof | grum just smooth the path |
| 19:17.53 | Xinhuan | i suppose, but that's way too much work |
| 19:17.56 | Grum | lol smooth? |
| 19:17.57 | Grum | rawr |
| 19:18.00 | Xinhuan | TSP is already difficult to solve |
| 19:18.04 | Grum | not really |
| 19:18.06 | Grum | just takes time |
| 19:18.14 | Xinhuan | and by adding a 30 yard range, you just increase the time and complexity |
| 19:18.16 | vithos | yeah i'm not sure how you'd solve it with dimension to the nodes |
| 19:18.32 | vithos | that'd make it interesting though |
| 19:18.50 | cncfanatics | "think of the case where you've got two parts of the path that go parallel for a while that are close to each other but far apart in the path" intrestin vithos, could use support in that thingy |
| 19:18.50 | Grum | btw all plant-routes on the whole of wow took 66s to calculate |
| 19:19.13 | Xinhuan | ACO will do that in like 3 secs max ;p |
| 19:19.18 | Xinhuan | not 66 lol |
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| 19:19.19 | vithos | Grum: you doing it in mathematica or something? |
| 19:19.44 | Grum | nah just using a pre-made solver |
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| 19:19.53 | Grum | i cba to make the solver myself tbh |
| 19:20.21 | cncfanatics | if you guys use ACO, would it be possible to someway combine 2 paralel paths close to eachother (55 yards or clsoer or so) into one ? |
| 19:20.22 | vithos | yeah i meant as your premade solver |
| 19:20.24 | Shwei | where are periodictable's sets listed? |
| 19:20.35 | vithos | i downloaded AntSim and i'm not really liking what i'm seeing tbh |
| 19:20.43 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: probably, but there will be so much complexity involved to the point isn't not worth trying |
| 19:20.47 | vithos | (it's ACO) |
| 19:20.58 | Xinhuan | see if the points or so close to each other, ACO would already zig-zag the path |
| 19:21.04 | cncfanatics | ah, np then |
| 19:21.06 | Xinhuan | and the user will see the path |
| 19:21.12 | Xinhuan | and "cut corners" |
| 19:21.17 | Xinhuan | by flying between the zigzag |
| 19:21.20 | Xinhuan | humans aren't dumb |
| 19:21.26 | cncfanatics | ants are :) |
| 19:21.35 | cncfanatics | and some humans too tbh |
| 19:21.45 | Xinhuan | then god bless the dumb humans :) |
| 19:21.46 | cncfanatics | especialy wow playing humans can be dumber then ants |
| 19:21.49 | Gngsk | what's an ant? |
| 19:21.55 | cncfanatics | Gngsk, an insect |
| 19:22.01 | Gngsk | o |
| 19:22.06 | Grum | Xinhuan: what you should do, is having a ~30yds radius circle as a 'point' with which you draw your lines |
| 19:22.17 | Grum | and then solve the TSP |
| 19:22.27 | Grum | but that is like seriously hard |
| 19:22.30 | vithos | Xinhuan: i really think you might end up with drastically different routes with the radius |
| 19:22.48 | Xinhuan | vithos: it will, but it is also exceedingly difficult |
| 19:22.52 | Ayhan | Hello guys how to remove all components of a table in lua? |
| 19:22.57 | Grum | alternatively you could just draw all points as a circle with a certain radius |
| 19:23.03 | vithos | yes, the regular algorithms wouldn't apply |
| 19:23.19 | vithos | not without a lot of modification |
| 19:23.22 | cncfanatics | Ayhan, for n,v in pairs(tbl) do tbl[n] = nil; end |
| 19:23.44 | Grum | Ayhan: for k,_ in pairs(table) do table[k] = nil end |
| 19:23.51 | vithos | actually |
| 19:23.56 | vithos | maybe it wouldn't be that hard |
| 19:24.05 | cncfanatics | Grum, beat u to it :p |
| 19:24.19 | Ayhan | it doesnt work if write table={} right? |
| 19:24.29 | cncfanatics | Ayhan, it does |
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| 19:24.31 | CIA-22 | IncomingHealsLib: |
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| 19:24.31 | CIA-22 | - improved calculations for regrowth, rejuvenation and lifebloom |
| 19:24.40 | cncfanatics | but then u don't recycle the old table and references to t he old table won't be cleared |
| 19:24.41 | Xinhuan | oh it does Ayhan, but that just creates a new table -- it doesn't destroy the old one |
| 19:24.43 | vithos | the shortest distance between any point on two circles is always colinear with the line connecting the centers anyway |
| 19:25.01 | Ayhan | k got it tx |
| 19:25.13 | Tupsi3472 | is there an option to disable that new rock thing for configuring stuff in my fubar? |
| 19:25.20 | vithos | so really it's just a matter of calculating the distance between points differently |
| 19:25.22 | Xinhuan | yep vithos, but when you start considering the shortest path between 3 points, then you don't want the colinear point anymore |
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| 19:25.27 | Grum | Tupsi3472: download an old version |
| 19:25.40 | Tornhoof | i mean it grum, just smooth the path, after your tsp, add two points at a certain distance around each node, and interpolate between those, binomial or whatever, and delete the original nod |
| 19:25.42 | Tornhoof | e |
| 19:25.42 | Tupsi3472 | we call that "verschlimmbessert" |
| 19:25.43 | Lukian | Tupsi3472, get used to it, it's actually better :) |
| 19:26.11 | Xinhuan | just consider 3 points -- the shorrest path between the 3 points is the 3 bisectors of the mid-point of the triangle |
| 19:26.11 | Grum | Tornhoof: not so easy as you say :( |
| 19:26.13 | Tornhoof | this will remove the corners from the path and the user needs to look down to find the node ;) |
| 19:26.16 | Tornhoof | it is |
| 19:26.40 | blooie | interface/addons/cartographer_herbalism\addon.lua:415:attempt to index field 'L' (a nil value |
| 19:27.02 | vithos | Xinhuan: really? |
| 19:27.11 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 19:27.20 | Xinhuan | draw 3 circles on your paper |
| 19:27.21 | Tupsi3472 | i cant even find how to unlock my pitbull frames grrr |
| 19:27.27 | Xinhuan | the smallest triangle that touches all 3 circles |
| 19:27.28 | Tupsi3472 | not that i ever locked them |
| 19:27.30 | vithos | brb paper. |
| 19:27.33 | blooie | anyone feel like helping me with cartographer? |
| 19:27.38 | Xinhuan | aren't collinear with any 2 circles |
| 19:27.59 | Tupsi3472 | ah finaly |
| 19:28.00 | Xinhuan | the points of touching the circle are the midpoint bisectors |
| 19:28.04 | Xinhuan | of the triangle |
| 19:29.14 | vithos | oh i see what you mean, i interpreted your terms wrong |
| 19:29.49 | Lukian | blooie, updated everything? |
| 19:29.58 | vithos | do you think that would require considering more than 3 points at a time though? |
| 19:30.55 | Lukian | off to bed, night all :) |
| 19:30.59 | Xinhuan | yes vithos ;p |
| 19:31.19 | Xinhuan | ACO, like any other TSP algo, requires a nxn size table |
| 19:31.29 | Xinhuan | containing the distance between any 2 nodes |
| 19:31.57 | Xinhuan | since the next likely node an ant is likely to choose from the current node |
| 19:32.17 | Xinhuan | is based on a probability of the inverse distance and pheromone |
| 19:32.21 | Xinhuan | of the last trail |
| 19:32.34 | Xinhuan | the ant will consider every remaining node |
| 19:32.40 | Xinhuan | and generate a probablility for each |
| 19:32.44 | Xinhuan | and then /random 100 |
| 19:32.45 | vithos | you couldn't have a precalculated table for what we're talking about though, but you could still do it on the fly |
| 19:32.56 | vithos | it'd probably be slow though |
| 19:32.57 | Xinhuan | the distance is pre-calculated |
| 19:33.09 | Xinhuan | but if you add a 30-yard circle, that distance is much more complex |
| 19:33.21 | vithos | right |
| 19:33.24 | Xinhuan | even for a simple 3-node graph |
| 19:33.30 | Xinhuan | or 4-node even |
| 19:33.50 | Xinhuan | you're talking about a path that touches each circle |
| 19:33.57 | Xinhuan | and a circle has infinite points |
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| 19:35.41 | Xinhuan | anyway, all this is moot, grum still has to decide whether to release it or not ;p |
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| 19:37.46 | vithos | yeah, of course you can't just represent the circle with points. but i still think there'll be a way to halfass it by only doing the real circle optimization in certain cases until you have a full route decided |
| 19:38.14 | Xinhuan | it is possible to do small local optimizations i think |
| 19:38.34 | Xinhuan | i can find points that are considered "close together" and get a centroid point that represents all those points |
| 19:38.41 | Xinhuan | and use that as a "node" to travel to |
| 19:39.05 | Xinhuan | that would probably yield better results |
| 19:39.10 | vithos | like maybe only consider nodes a certain number of hops away from the currently focused node. but then again i've never implemented TSP and haven't REALLY studied the algorithms |
| 19:39.10 | Xinhuan | and faster too |
| 19:39.15 | Arrowmaster | rofl wws broke http://wowwebstats.com/yk5ficqwvhsmm?a=52 |
| 19:39.27 | vithos | i math armchair |
| 19:39.48 | vithos | er |
| 19:39.57 | vithos | only consider the circle optimization for nodes a certain number of hops away.. |
| 19:40.13 | Xinhuan | that isn't how ACO works vithos |
| 19:40.20 | vithos | i know |
| 19:40.24 | vithos | i mean with something other than ACO |
| 19:40.25 | Xinhuan | ACO considers every node |
| 19:40.40 | Xinhuan | ACO is the choice though, due to its speed |
| 19:41.10 | vithos | i'll go read on ACO |
| 19:44.12 | vithos | it seems like it'd be really good if you like, areas of terrain with different costs |
| 19:44.38 | vithos | if you had like |
| 19:44.47 | vithos | my ability to form sentences is sucking |
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| 19:45.27 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 19:45.47 | cncfanatics | either way, terrain type is a no issue with flying mnts |
| 19:46.09 | vithos | yeah, i meant the algorithm in general. not this specific application of it |
| 19:46.16 | Xinhuan | oh terrain would be a BIG factor lol, in azeroth/kalimdor maps |
| 19:46.30 | Xinhuan | but now, lets not think about that |
| 19:46.35 | cncfanatics | just multiply distance by a certain factor depending on terrain ? :p |
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| 19:46.45 | vithos | yeah, but it'd be a bitch to make that data set. |
| 19:47.01 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 19:47.03 | Xinhuan | its more the fact on azeroth, most nodes are situated on the top of some "hard to reach" location that only has a specific way up |
| 19:47.31 | Xinhuan | or if it resides in a cave |
| 19:47.40 | Xinhuan | then you have to go thru the cave |
| 19:47.53 | vithos | yeah, it's more of costs at every point on the cartesian plane than just costs between nodes |
| 19:48.11 | Xinhuan | also the map doesn't take into account the Z-dimension |
| 19:48.24 | Xinhuan | so the route is merely a general guide |
| 19:48.28 | vithos | which ACO would do great for, since it doesn't seem to really deal with distances between nodes anyway |
| 19:48.29 | Xinhuan | not an absolute minimum |
| 19:48.43 | vithos | unless i'm completely misunderstanding it |
| 19:48.59 | Xinhuan | probably misunderstanding it |
| 19:49.25 | Xinhuan | TSP is simply dealing with the "best path" for visiting every node, where there is a "weight" or "cost" between 2 nodes |
| 19:49.41 | Xinhuan | in this case, the cost is the xy-distance |
| 19:49.43 | vithos | ants doing random walks and leaving pheremone trails when they get "food"? |
| 19:49.44 | Xinhuan | but the "cost" can be anything |
| 19:50.04 | Xinhuan | basically, you have A number of ants |
| 19:50.11 | Xinhuan | each ant will generate a route randomly |
| 19:50.22 | Xinhuan | the best route after all A ants complete |
| 19:50.43 | Xinhuan | you take that route as the "best" and add a pheromone trail along that particular route |
| 19:50.50 | Xinhuan | and evaporate the trail slightly on all others |
| 19:50.56 | Xinhuan | now that's ONE iteration |
| 19:51.07 | vithos | ah, that's totally different to what i found lol |
| 19:51.19 | Xinhuan | in the second iteration, you have the same A number of ants generating A different trails |
| 19:51.34 | Xinhuan | but this time, the routes chosen will be affected by the pheromone |
| 19:51.39 | Xinhuan | the probabilities change |
| 19:51.57 | Xinhuan | an ant will be more likely to choose a trail that has pheromone than one that doesn't |
| 19:52.11 | Xinhuan | so after the 2nd iteration, you pick the best route out of the A routes |
| 19:52.23 | Xinhuan | and again, strengthen the trail of this route, evaporating everything else slightly |
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| 19:52.37 | vithos | that sounds pretty good |
| 19:52.40 | Xinhuan | eventually, after some number of iterations, all A ants will end up following the same route |
| 19:52.45 | Xinhuan | and strengthening that one and only route |
| 19:53.16 | Xinhuan | because every node is considered, there is still a small heuristic chance that an ant will follow a route that isn't ideal |
| 19:53.20 | Xinhuan | and it could lead to a better solution |
| 19:53.44 | cncfanatics | that could lead to a very different route each time the code is ran ? |
| 19:53.52 | Xinhuan | since if you have 50 nodes, the ant will consider all 49, and generate a probability for each 49, based on the amount of pheromone and the distance |
| 19:53.55 | vithos | so you don't look up distances until you have a full route to sum? |
| 19:53.56 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: correct |
| 19:54.04 | Xinhuan | in fact the route will be different every time |
| 19:54.06 | cncfanatics | and could also lead to a very non optimal route ? |
| 19:54.13 | Xinhuan | but the route will also genereally be near optimal |
| 19:54.46 | cncfanatics | it will ? |
| 19:54.46 | cncfanatics | there's a slight chance its totaly disastrous isnt there ? |
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| 19:54.46 | Xinhuan | say the absolute best route is 9424 yards |
| 19:54.46 | Xinhuan | the algo will generate a route that is fairly close to 9424 |
| 19:54.52 | Xinhuan | like 9000 and better |
| 19:55.01 | haste | over 9000? |
| 19:55.03 | Xinhuan | there will be hundreds of possible solution that are 9000-9424 |
| 19:55.17 | Xinhuan | oops i mean 10000 not 9000 |
| 19:55.39 | vithos | what % probability does the pheremone add per "strength"? |
| 19:55.41 | Fisker- | oh lulz |
| 19:55.43 | Xinhuan | if the absolute best route is 9424, as an example, ACO will generate routes that are pretty close to 9424 |
| 19:55.55 | Xinhuan | so although you can get very different routes per generation |
| 19:55.57 | blooie | blaaah |
| 19:55.59 | Xinhuan | they will all be good enough |
| 19:56.06 | Xinhuan | and everyone will fly different routes |
| 19:56.13 | Xinhuan | [9/23 03:53:20] <vithos> what % probability does the pheremone add per "strength"? |
| 19:56.20 | Xinhuan | those are variables that can be tweaked |
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| 19:56.34 | Xinhuan | the variables are the number of ants "A", |
| 19:56.39 | Xinhuan | the evaporation rate "E" |
| 19:56.45 | Xinhuan | and the trail strength "S" |
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| 19:57.04 | Xinhuan | a high E will lead to "more randomization" |
| 19:57.09 | alcohol | yea uh, do you guys ever jerk off ? |
| 19:57.35 | Xinhuan | E is usually abou 0.1 or so |
| 19:57.37 | Xinhuan | about* |
| 19:57.43 | Xinhuan | and S about 0.5 |
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| 19:57.57 | Xinhuan | there are no "ideal" values of A, E and S |
| 19:58.10 | Xinhuan | because the ideal is based on the number of nodes and the "weights" between each node used |
| 19:58.12 | cncfanatics | a quite high value of E would be good for our case ? |
| 19:58.39 | Xinhuan | not exactly, a low E leads to ants tending to choose pheremone trails from past results |
| 19:58.55 | Xinhuan | a high E leads to faster evaporation, so ants tend to "explore" more |
| 19:59.01 | Fisker- | typical wow faggots |
| 19:59.10 | Fisker- | "OH NOES THIS IS WOW FORUM NOT SCII FORUM OMG KEKEK" |
| 19:59.19 | Xinhuan | this means a high E takes a longer time for ants to settle down into a single route |
| 19:59.24 | vithos | ok, now that we're talking about the same ACO, i can see how there could be a problem with the radius optimization |
| 19:59.24 | Xinhuan | but may generate a better solution |
| 19:59.44 | Xinhuan | so there is a time-solution tradeoff |
| 19:59.54 | Xinhuan | if the user wants a "better route" he will set a higher E |
| 19:59.55 | vithos | you could do local optimizations just fine, but they'd skew the pheremone strength on edges falsely if you're coming to a node from a different way |
| 20:00.04 | vithos | than the way the pheremone was lain by |
| 20:00.30 | Xinhuan | but a higher E will take more iterations to settle down |
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| 20:00.37 | Xinhuan | from a few hundred to a few thousand |
| 20:00.40 | cncfanatics | intresting |
| 20:00.49 | Xinhuan | the number of Ants matter too |
| 20:00.51 | vithos | but maybe it wouldn't matter too much with a high enough A |
| 20:01.36 | vithos | at least initially |
| 20:01.38 | Xinhuan | if there are 50 nodes, and the ant has visited 28 of them, then there are 22 remaining nodes |
| 20:01.56 | Xinhuan | it calculates the "strength" for those 22 based on pheromone / distance |
| 20:02.03 | Xinhuan | and of course the probability |
| 20:02.08 | Xinhuan | of those 22 nodes add up to 1 |
| 20:02.20 | blooie | I have the newest Cartographer and _herbalism, and when I load wow I get errors. This only starts when I put the _herbalism in my addons folder. Any help? |
| 20:02.27 | Xinhuan | but that's not really the exact formulas used |
| 20:02.37 | Xinhuan | there's some exponential formulas used |
| 20:02.53 | vithos | oh, so it does consider distance during the random walk |
| 20:02.55 | Xinhuan | since the evaporation formula is (p)^E |
| 20:03.08 | vithos | not just after |
| 20:03.11 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 20:03.24 | Fisker- | did i has lulz? |
| 20:03.36 | mikma | for the lulz |
| 20:03.44 | Xinhuan | of course, wow can generate a random number between any 2 number range |
| 20:03.52 | Xinhuan | so you don't really have to scale the probability down to 0-1 |
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| 20:04.43 | Xinhuan | or you can just scale up that number that is generated [0,1) anyway |
| 20:04.52 | Xinhuan | no real difference |
| 20:05.22 | Xinhuan | ACO is pretty good for real time traffic analysis |
| 20:05.40 | Xinhuan | since the weight between 2 road junctions could be the "traffic speed" along that road |
| 20:06.01 | Xinhuan | so the fastest way from point a to b can take into account distance and traffic speed |
| 20:06.07 | Grum | sorry was afk .. needed to kill Prince with some alt-grp-stuff |
| 20:06.23 | Xinhuan | grum, feel free to read the last 200 lines ;p |
| 20:06.23 | vithos | yeah, the decay would be awesome for that |
| 20:06.32 | Grum | yeah i saw the spawn |
| 20:06.34 | Grum | *spam |
| 20:06.46 | cncfanatics | hmmm, now get coding then ? :p |
| 20:06.48 | Xinhuan | and the best part is, ACO can and will take into account changing irl conditions |
| 20:07.11 | Xinhuan | lets say you plan to do 2000 iterations, but if some road gets blocked by an accident when you do iteration 50 |
| 20:07.21 | Xinhuan | then it will take that into account |
| 20:07.24 | Xinhuan | from 51 onwards |
| 20:08.16 | Ellipsis | sorry for just jumping in in the middle of your conversation but... |
| 20:08.25 | Ellipsis | isn't ACO a bit more complex to code than A* or something? |
| 20:08.42 | Xinhuan | A* is an algorithm that finds the shortest path between 2 points. |
| 20:08.58 | Xinhuan | ACO is an algo that finds the best route to visit all N nodes in a complete graph |
| 20:09.06 | Xinhuan | 2 different things |
| 20:09.13 | Ellipsis | trial and error can connect the dots, though |
| 20:09.20 | Ellipsis | unless N gets big |
| 20:09.22 | Xinhuan | A* is optimal |
| 20:09.42 | Xinhuan | because A* is just a step above dijkstra's algo |
| 20:10.05 | Ellipsis | yes, I know |
| 20:10.26 | Ellipsis | I worked on a project similar to the one you're describing (visiting nodes on a map in a different MMO) |
| 20:10.45 | Ellipsis | and found that A* plus a heuristic for which nodes should be visited first did the trick nicely |
| 20:11.10 | Xinhuan | A* is more useful when you want to take land terrain into account |
| 20:11.23 | Xinhuan | here, in outlands, you don't need to, as you're using flying mounts |
| 20:11.32 | Ellipsis | true, I suppose for flight there are almost no obstacles |
| 20:11.37 | Xinhuan | A* would be used if you want to map azeroth nodes |
| 20:11.54 | Xinhuan | A* to calculate the distance between 2 nodes, then ACO using the data from A* |
| 20:12.39 | Ellipsis | right, but then wouldn't you have to calculate A* paths from all N nodes to all other N nodes? |
| 20:12.52 | Xinhuan | yeah, but that is a prerequirement for all TSP-algos |
| 20:13.10 | Xinhuan | every node has a weight to every other node |
| 20:13.39 | Xinhuan | if a path between 2 nodes don't exist (such as 2 traffic junctions), then the weight is -1 |
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| 20:13.53 | Xinhuan | no not -1 |
| 20:13.59 | Xinhuan | i mean a really huge number like 99999999999999 |
| 20:14.15 | Xinhuan | since TSP assumes that all nodes can go to any other node - a complete graph |
| 20:14.18 | Ellipsis | right |
| 20:14.46 | Grum | i only do one way TSPs ;D |
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| 20:14.54 | Grum | or symetrically tbh |
| 20:15.08 | Grum | humz |
| 20:15.28 | Grum | lets look at gpslib |
| 20:16.00 | vithos | what would you use gpslib for? |
| 20:16.11 | Xinhuan | isn't that a lib to give you the xyz coordinate in an instance? |
| 20:16.16 | vithos | that's what i thought |
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| 20:16.37 | Ellipsis | how the heck? |
| 20:16.46 | cncfanatics | indeed, how the heck ? |
| 20:16.51 | vithos | map pings |
| 20:17.02 | cncfanatics | smart |
| 20:17.07 | Ellipsis | huh, neat |
| 20:17.13 | cncfanatics | could be used to make decent maps of instances ? |
| 20:17.20 | vithos | though i've never used it, i guess you have to ping the map manually |
| 20:17.21 | CIA-22 | 03ackis * r49541 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc): |
| 20:17.21 | CIA-22 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:17.21 | CIA-22 | - Fixed bug where closing a trade skill window doesn't correctly reset the database (Function at line 241) |
| 20:17.21 | CIA-22 | - Is this the most efficient way of doing this? |
| 20:17.31 | Xinhuan | no, its more used to provide a "location" |
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| 20:17.38 | Xinhuan | of other party members in an instance |
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| 20:18.01 | Xinhuan | see, the minimap can draw dots of your party member's location |
| 20:18.05 | Xinhuan | in an instance |
| 20:18.18 | Grum | humz |
| 20:18.58 | Xinhuan | the wow api in the past in closed beta was able to give the exact XYZ coordinate of a UnitID |
| 20:19.05 | Grum | mehh! |
| 20:19.19 | Nickenyfiken | Even z? |
| 20:19.22 | Xinhuan | this means that i can tell you that Tanaris is 5 yards above seas level |
| 20:19.30 | Xinhuan | and i can tell you that ungoro is 270 yards below sea level |
| 20:19.40 | cncfanatics | why did they change that ? |
| 20:19.45 | cncfanatics | thats like, neat |
| 20:19.45 | Grum | lol |
| 20:19.46 | Xinhuan | because i wrote a small mod that displays the xyz of where i am |
| 20:19.51 | Ellipsis | because they're Blizrad. |
| 20:19.54 | Grum | that is like botprone |
| 20:20.11 | Xinhuan | i can tell you that 0,0,0 on Eastern Kingdoms is at sea level, at the coast just west of Silverpine Forest |
| 20:20.15 | Xinhuan | in that horde quest town |
| 20:20.23 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 20:20.31 | cncfanatics | now tell us how to get that data today ? |
| 20:20.38 | Grum | humz wtb line smoothing algorithm |
| 20:20.49 | Xinhuan | blizzard removed this API so that the function will now only return the XYZ for friendly targets |
| 20:21.18 | cncfanatics | thats enough too tbh |
| 20:21.19 | Xinhuan | because people used to have mods that told you the exact distance between you and an enemy target |
| 20:21.23 | Xinhuan | like 36 yards, or 30 yards |
| 20:21.27 | Xinhuan | or 30.444 yards |
| 20:21.28 | vithos | smoothing the line won't really help you |
| 20:21.41 | cncfanatics | basicly |
| 20:21.46 | Xinhuan | by having the XYZ of you and your target |
| 20:21.54 | Xinhuan | eventually blizzard removed it |
| 20:22.26 | Xinhuan | so all distance estimating now, are based on your spells targettable range |
| 20:22.27 | Deathra | shame |
| 20:22.35 | Xinhuan | or by using the API that returns inspect distance / trade distance |
| 20:23.02 | cncfanatics | so, basicly |
| 20:23.07 | cncfanatics | I could use the distance from me to the tank ? |
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| 20:23.18 | cncfanatics | as estimate of the distance between me & boss X |
| 20:23.27 | Xinhuan | yes, but that estimate won't be very useful |
| 20:23.43 | Xinhuan | since that is based entirely on fight positioning and the boss's hitbox |
| 20:23.48 | nevcairiel | tank could be anything from 0 to 8 from the boss, or so |
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| 20:23.56 | nevcairiel | plus hitbox |
| 20:24.05 | nymbia | that function returns nils in instances now too |
| 20:24.11 | Xinhuan | for example, Azgalore's hit box is SO huge that his 10-yard aoe-stun can be out-ranged by melee |
| 20:24.40 | Xinhuan | another example, Hellfire citadel's dragon Nazan |
| 20:24.50 | Xinhuan | his hitbox is so huge you can be standing like 15 yards away and still hit him |
| 20:24.59 | kenlyric | anyone know how to disable dottimer's communication portion? |
| 20:25.00 | cncfanatics | so, that func is useless in instances ? too bad, but gpslib does that anyway :) |
| 20:25.10 | Xinhuan | tanks only need to move backwards in that encounter to step out of fire patches |
| 20:25.13 | Pkekyo | http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4229/archimondeax9.jpg O.o |
| 20:25.19 | Xinhuan | rather than rotate him left/right |
| 20:25.30 | Xinhuan | (but most tanks don't realise it until i tell them) |
| 20:25.52 | Xinhuan | that function will always return 0,0,0 in an instance ;p |
| 20:26.28 | Xinhuan | hence you cannot draw a dot on a instance map that tells you where you are in an instance |
| 20:26.29 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo: that happends when archimonde comes to close to the worldtree ;P |
| 20:26.55 | Xinhuan | unlike the world map that is |
| 20:27.29 | Ellipsis | ooh, this gives me a great idea |
| 20:27.52 | Ellipsis | WTB DogTag support for RangeCheck-1.0 so we can have a tag for distance to units other than our target ! |
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| 20:28.41 | Lhooq | hello I'm new user of IRC and ACE, I would like to have information |
| 20:28.48 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 20:28.49 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 20:29.22 | Lhooq | do you use chronometer mod ? |
| 20:29.41 | Ellipsis | I don't, but someone here probably does |
| 20:29.58 | Ellipsis | are you having trouble with it? |
| 20:30.09 | Lhooq | no don't know the mod |
| 20:30.25 | Lhooq | I made totem timer mod |
| 20:30.47 | Lhooq | and I would like to convert it to ACE libraries |
| 20:31.37 | Xinhuan | totem timer mod? |
| 20:31.40 | Lhooq | the best addon for cooldown and timer is dotimer no ? |
| 20:31.47 | Xinhuan | there's already quite a few out there |
| 20:31.54 | Ellipsis | Lhooq, DoTimer has a lot of information, but it is quite inefficient |
| 20:31.56 | Xinhuan | do none of them do what you want? |
| 20:32.15 | Lhooq | mine is totemmanager |
| 20:32.18 | Ellipsis | if you're just getting started with Ace, a lot of the informatin here can be helpful: http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Tutorials |
| 20:32.40 | Ellipsis | you might look at the other totem addons like Yata or Numen for reference |
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| 20:32.59 | Lhooq | thx I aloready read this |
| 20:33.41 | Ellipsis | ok, what do you need help with then? |
| 20:34.08 | Lhooq | I would like link my addon with another timer addon (so I could forget tracking Healing way for example) |
| 20:34.33 | Ellipsis | link it how? |
| 20:34.37 | Lhooq | but I want also that the timer addon do not duplicate information |
| 20:35.18 | Ellipsis | the best way to do it is generally to just have your addon do something specific (like all totem-related timers and functions) and then the user is free to choose another addon to handle other stuff |
| 20:35.29 | Lhooq | for example the general timer addon provide a function to forget totem timer |
| 20:35.51 | Ellipsis | that's just a configuration issue, let the user sort it out :) |
| 20:36.44 | Lhooq | in fact I wanna work with chronometer dev or another timer addon dev |
| 20:37.19 | Ellipsis | but there are way too many timer addons out there, you can never hope to write code that will remove totem timers from every single one |
| 20:37.42 | Ellipsis | some of them don't even have a blacklisting feature like that |
| 20:38.19 | Lhooq | do chronometer have a configurable blacklist ? |
| 20:38.37 | Ellipsis | I don't know, you can check its wiki to see if it's a listed feature |
| 20:39.01 | Lhooq | hum I do not think |
| 20:39.31 | Lhooq | in addition this addon has a default I want to correct |
| 20:40.01 | Lhooq | I doesn't show number of stack with healing way buff |
| 20:40.09 | Lhooq | It * |
| 20:40.18 | Grum | meh back |
| 20:40.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Lhooq what's your native language |
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| 20:40.31 | Grum | wtb complete and working code without me doing anything with it! GEIV NOW |
| 20:40.32 | Lhooq | french soory ;( |
| 20:40.44 | sag_ich_nicht | no problem, i'm just asking |
| 20:41.30 | Ellipsis | well, the best thing you can do to report issues or missing functionality is post it in the thread, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2425.0 |
| 20:41.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Lhooq is there a reason why you want to convert your addon to Ace? |
| 20:41.49 | Ellipsis | Grum: WTS 500000g |
| 20:41.56 | Lhooq | yes |
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| 20:42.13 | Lhooq | candybar |
| 20:42.27 | Lhooq | minimap icon |
| 20:42.42 | Ellipsis | those are actually not provided by the Ace core |
| 20:42.49 | sag_ich_nicht | correct |
| 20:42.50 | Lhooq | and circle button and pretty config |
| 20:42.52 | Ellipsis | you can use them even if your addon is not Ace |
| 20:43.07 | Lhooq | ah doesn't know |
| 20:43.10 | Grum | Ellipsis: i can pay with a very wanted addon ^^ |
| 20:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | okay now i gave you guys something to work/talk about on, while i go play WoW. :P |
| 20:43.18 | Ellipsis | Grum o.O detailz! :P |
| 20:43.23 | sag_ich_nicht | GRUM |
| 20:43.24 | sag_ich_nicht | GIEV |
| 20:43.28 | Grum | see O.o |
| 20:43.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: what ever he wants |
| 20:43.34 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 20:43.39 | sag_ich_nicht | give it to him |
| 20:43.45 | sag_ich_nicht | if it gets us the addon |
| 20:43.49 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, only if one of you tells us wtf is going on |
| 20:43.53 | Ellipsis | er, tells me at least |
| 20:43.56 | Grum | humz |
| 20:44.06 | Ellipsis | >:( |
| 20:44.24 | Grum | http://grum.nl/images/terrokar.jpg |
| 20:44.27 | Ellipsis | I promise I won't tell, I'm very good at keeping secrets |
| 20:44.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: Grum took all the resource nodes for every map in WoW and caculated the optimal path to gather them all for a given map |
| 20:44.37 | Ellipsis | HOLY I LOVE YOU |
| 20:44.58 | Grum | see :'( |
| 20:45.02 | Grum | that is ingame btw |
| 20:45.03 | Ellipsis | and even mapped dismounting NPCs |
| 20:45.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis he won't give it out :X |
| 20:45.12 | Ellipsis | Grum, will you marry me? |
| 20:45.23 | Grum | no |
| 20:45.26 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 20:45.33 | Ellipsis | have my babies then? |
| 20:45.41 | Grum | GET OF MY BACK OR I WILL DELETE IT! (well .. not delete it .. just do attrib +h *!) |
| 20:45.52 | Grum | so you will nevar find it! |
| 20:45.57 | Lhooq | Ellipsis, can I speak only to you with IRC ? |
| 20:46.12 | Ellipsis | Lhooq, you'll have to register your nick to send private messages |
| 20:46.37 | Ellipsis | Grum: what do you want, I'll do anything! |
| 20:46.42 | Lhooq | how I do that ? |
| 20:46.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Lhooq: /msg NickServ HELP |
| 20:46.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i think it supports french too |
| 20:47.02 | sag_ich_nicht | somehow |
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| 20:47.19 | Grum | lol |
| 20:47.28 | Grum | stop me crying! |
| 20:47.33 | Lhooq | /msg NickServ REGISTER Lhooq |
| 20:47.38 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 20:47.40 | sag_ich_nicht | without the bold |
| 20:47.43 | sag_ich_nicht | just type it out |
| 20:47.52 | Ellipsis | and you probably want a different password :P |
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| 20:48.30 | Grum | *cry* |
| 20:48.37 | Lhooq | ok I think it is good |
| 20:48.58 | Ellipsis | then type /msg Ellipsis your message here |
| 20:49.03 | Ellipsis | ...or that |
| 20:49.12 | Ackis | are there tab/new line escape characters for lua? |
| 20:49.34 | Nickenyfiken | \n? |
| 20:49.36 | Grum | this is horrible |
| 20:49.39 | Grum | i hate wow |
| 20:49.42 | Ellipsis | yeah, I think they're just C-style |
| 20:49.52 | Ackis | so \n and \t iirc? |
| 20:49.53 | alcohol | Grum: why ? |
| 20:49.56 | Ellipsis | http://www.lua.org/pil/2.4.html |
| 20:50.01 | Ellipsis | table with lots of 'em |
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| 20:50.14 | Ackis | ty (tried google but nothing came up) |
| 20:50.23 | Ellipsis | np |
| 20:50.26 | Ellipsis | pil > google |
| 20:50.28 | Ellipsis | little known fact |
| 20:50.48 | Ackis | no idea what pil is lol |
| 20:50.51 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 20:50.57 | Ellipsis | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 20:50.59 | Nickenyfiken | Lol just installed and tried wowecon pricemod haha |
| 20:51.01 | Ellipsis | read, and become enlightened |
| 20:51.04 | Nickenyfiken | 50 MiB on first install |
| 20:51.09 | Ellipsis | ewww Nickenyfiken |
| 20:51.13 | Nickenyfiken | awesome |
| 20:51.14 | Ellipsis | just giev data pls <3 |
| 20:51.17 | Grum | why does wow give the player position relative to your map-size |
| 20:51.25 | Grum | instead of 'relative to the world' :\ |
| 20:51.33 | Ellipsis | I cbf to install it just to get the data I need >_> |
| 20:51.36 | Ackis | ohhh can I say I've been pilled now? |
| 20:51.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: minerals map :X |
| 20:51.45 | Ellipsis | lol, sure :P |
| 20:51.59 | Ackis | yay lol |
| 20:52.03 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: nah just so i can say: 'calculate a 30yrds circle around this point' |
| 20:52.12 | Grum | problem is .. I DONT KNOW WHAT BLOODY 30YDS IS! |
| 20:52.18 | Ellipsis | nobody does |
| 20:52.19 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 20:52.25 | Grum | because it's different on *every* wowmap |
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| 20:52.35 | Grum | *curses @ Blizzard* |
| 20:52.45 | alcohol | how can a yard be different on another map ? |
| 20:52.58 | Grum | because it is |
| 20:53.05 | alcohol | that makes no sense |
| 20:53.18 | Grum | the distance from 40,0 to 40,10 is different on different parts of the world |
| 20:53.27 | alcohol | how does tomtom get an accurate distance then ? |
| 20:53.34 | Grum | by recalculating it |
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| 20:54.53 | alcohol | k |
| 20:54.53 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49542 10AlarTTFrame/: AlarTTFrame Last (I hope) fix to externals definition |
| 20:55.31 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49543 10!AlarLib/core.lua: !AlarLib Removed unreferenced file core.lua |
| 20:55.51 | Grum | and doing that ingame is quite easy as you have libs for it |
| 20:55.59 | Grum | doing it outside of wow however .. *cries* |
| 20:56.10 | Ellipsis | Grum, what do you need to do that for anyway? |
| 20:56.33 | Ellipsis | tbh, I think your work is complete if it can just automatically waypoint-ize the nodes in the right order |
| 20:57.37 | sag_ich_nicht | indeed. |
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| 20:59.20 | JCinDE | Anyone know who wrote StickyFrames? |
| 20:59.40 | Grum | no |
| 20:59.48 | Grum | the line is not optiomally 'smooth' enough |
| 21:00.01 | Grum | i want to get some of the stupidness from the lines |
| 21:00.13 | Ellipsis | you mean like, antialiased? |
| 21:00.24 | Ellipsis | or you want it to curve around the nodes? |
| 21:04.09 | Grum | nah just if 2 nodes would be 'in range' of eachother, instead of having a line through both nodes, average the node and let it go through that one |
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| 21:04.47 | Grum | so i need to know what '30 yrds' is |
| 21:04.52 | Grum | or 60 .. |
| 21:05.53 | Grum | for some reason my box is having regular cpu spikes on 1 cpu |
| 21:06.08 | Grum | any way i could check *what* could be causing that? O.o |
| 21:06.08 | Sole | good morning! |
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| 21:06.32 | Paradox | is there an ace addon like Move anything where I can type /move <the frames name> and drag it around/resize it? |
| 21:06.51 | a^i`SmaN | i guess visor2 :| |
| 21:07.25 | Paradox | that the only thing? |
| 21:07.45 | Sole | we dont really care about that stuff |
| 21:08.01 | Sole | because most ace2 addons have a good configuration system which doesnt require an outside addon |
| 21:08.36 | Ellipsis | there are a couple good ones Paradox, depends what you're looking for |
| 21:08.47 | Ellipsis | do you want it to save the frame's position and use the new location next time you open it? |
| 21:10.10 | Paradox | it's for moving the minimap icons |
| 21:10.17 | Paradox | and resizing them a bit smaller |
| 21:10.25 | Ellipsis | um, all fubar-created minimap icons can be dragged |
| 21:10.30 | winkiller | how can I change the background texture of frames in pitbull now? |
| 21:10.33 | Paradox | also to hide the default UI's buff/debuff/weapon buff frame |
| 21:13.49 | Grum | *cry* |
| 21:14.09 | Grum | does anyone know the range of your 'find herb' skill ? |
| 21:14.20 | Grum | 10yrds? 40? 80? 42? |
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| 21:17.18 | Ellipsis | whatever tracking is |
| 21:17.44 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tracking |
| 21:18.41 | Grum | seems to be 90yds |
| 21:18.57 | Ellipsis | ...that's a lotta yards |
| 21:19.53 | Ellipsis | is it really that far? o.o |
| 21:20.32 | Grum | yeah |
| 21:20.34 | Ellipsis | I guess it's when the client loads them, but I thought "visible range" was 100 |
| 21:20.42 | Grum | could be |
| 21:20.44 | Grum | lets check on another node |
| 21:20.58 | Grum | i kinda didn't want to leave this manathistle without supervision =D |
| 21:21.07 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 21:21.45 | silentium | it's affected by lag tho, as you can easily see with an epic flying mount (points "spawning" behind you on your minimap ftl) |
| 21:21.58 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 21:24.41 | Shadowed | visible range is 100yd |
| 21:25.05 | Ellipsis | ....boo, I have to leave the house today :( |
| 21:25.06 | Grum | seems to be that when you have it in range you loose it at 100yds |
| 21:25.21 | Grum | but if you fly closer - it will not pop again unless you get <90yds |
| 21:25.37 | Grum | so 70yds will be good enough |
| 21:25.52 | Grum | now i have to 'autodownload' Tourist and parse it's information |
| 21:25.54 | Grum | sigh O.o |
| 21:26.32 | Ackis | ok i've tried taking the pil and the wiki and i'm not finding something easy for: is "foo" in {"bar", "pew pew pew", "wheee", "foo") |
| 21:26.49 | Ellipsis | Ackis, you have to iterate through all the items |
| 21:26.55 | Ackis | ugh that's what I thought |
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| 21:27.46 | Ellipsis | you could restructure it to make it easier though, e.g. t = { "bar" = true; "pew pew pew" = true; "foo" = true } and then just use if t["foo"] |
| 21:27.50 | Grum | function is_in (t,item) for _,v in pairs(table) do if item == v then return true end end return false end |
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| 21:28.17 | Ackis | would it be more efficient to iterate the array all the time, or create seperate variables, 90% of which would be empty? |
| 21:28.29 | Grum | depends how you are using it :) |
| 21:28.39 | Grum | doing this lookup every second? lookupmap is fastar |
| 21:29.40 | Ellipsis | Ackis - structuring it like mine would be best o.O |
| 21:29.47 | Ellipsis | you don't need empty vars and you don't need iteration |
| 21:30.00 | Ackis | i have a nxm array, which I could add more "m"'s to it for certain boolean vars if I add it to output or not... ie: if this recipe is alliance only |
| 21:30.13 | Ackis | yah I'm thinking that way |
| 21:30.16 | Ellipsis | so make each m a table ^-^ |
| 21:31.10 | Ackis | they already are ;) |
| 21:31.28 | Ellipsis | each m is one recipe, correct? |
| 21:31.41 | Ellipsis | so you could add m.alliance and m.horde or something |
| 21:31.41 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r49544 10SharedMediaAdditionalFonts/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:31.41 | CIA-22 | SharedMediaAdditionalFonts: |
| 21:31.41 | CIA-22 | - Adding some very cool & tested fonts. |
| 21:31.41 | CIA-22 | - You should really give it a try! |
| 21:31.42 | Ackis | each n is a recipe, m is the info about it (level, where to get, etc) |
| 21:31.46 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 21:31.58 | Ellipsis | er that's what i meant |
| 21:32.32 | Ellipsis | m1 = n[12345] ; m1.alliance = true; m2.horde = false; |
| 21:32.46 | Ellipsis | er...m1, whatever |
| 21:32.48 | Ellipsis | you get the idea >_> |
| 21:33.06 | Ackis | but the majority would be wasted however because they don't have a condition to check |
| 21:33.35 | Ellipsis | well, a dirty hack for that would be to specify that false means it's available and true means it's not |
| 21:33.57 | Ellipsis | then you can just not specify the .alliance and .horde in recipes that are available for both |
| 21:34.22 | Ellipsis | you only have to include one of those flags if a certain faction doesn't have access to it |
| 21:34.22 | Grum | i'd keep a small seperate list with 'odd ones' |
| 21:34.38 | Grum | and just do a key-lookup in that list (you have on hitrate on it 99% of the time) |
| 21:34.42 | Grum | *no hitrate |
| 21:34.52 | Nargiddley | i'd have a seperate table for each condition |
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| 21:35.10 | Ellipsis | two tables for the same data, Grum? o.O |
| 21:35.26 | Ellipsis | that makes iterations like "display all recipes" kinda messy |
| 21:35.33 | Grum | if you know 98% of your data will not have anything specifics attached |
| 21:36.12 | Ellipsis | oh god |
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| 21:36.25 | Kemayo | Grum: The calculations for what 30yards is in all the zones should be in Tourist somewhere, I think. |
| 21:36.26 | Grum | its fast and efficient storage :D |
| 21:36.32 | Grum | yes it is Kemayo |
| 21:36.39 | Ellipsis | I was watching my bf play CS and asked him whether he was on Alliance or Horde...rather than T/CT |
| 21:36.40 | Grum | and it's static data i can not access easily |
| 21:36.43 | Grum | and i'm not inside wow atm |
| 21:36.58 | Grum | bf? you m/f? =D |
| 21:37.03 | Ellipsis | female tyvm :P |
| 21:37.12 | Grum | because if you are f we really have to start writing code for you right now |
| 21:37.16 | Ellipsis | not that there's anything wrong with that! |
| 21:37.19 | Grum | like proper nerds would do |
| 21:37.21 | Ackis | girls don't play wow or write code! |
| 21:37.23 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 21:37.27 | Ellipsis | sorry :( |
| 21:37.31 | Ackis | lol |
| 21:37.33 | Grum | NOT A GIRL! (prove with pics) |
| 21:37.40 | Ellipsis | ....maybe :P |
| 21:37.41 | Grum | (sorry .. open door :P) |
| 21:37.48 | Ellipsis | if you're good and get your addon done Grum <3 |
| 21:37.57 | Grum | ah FEK IT |
| 21:37.59 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 21:38.00 | Grum | that is mean |
| 21:38.02 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 21:38.02 | Grum | and low |
| 21:38.07 | Ellipsis | I get that a lot |
| 21:38.07 | Grum | and i'm afk .. coding |
| 21:38.09 | Grum | grrr |
| 21:38.34 | Grum | that was a perfect nerd imitation right? ^^ |
| 21:39.06 | Grum | what i do for example in my addon |
| 21:39.33 | Grum | is just checking if a certain property has a value take that .. else take the default |
| 21:39.46 | Grum | quite low cost on checking it and you arent storing lots of extra information |
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| 21:40.04 | Grum | (basicly for color/linewidth/visility etc) |
| 21:40.28 | Grum | you could do the same for your 'horde_only'/'alliance_only' |
| 21:41.28 | Grum | i'll stop talking now O.o |
| 21:41.33 | Grum | yes coding |
| 21:41.34 | Grum | sigh |
| 21:41.40 | Ackis | i've gone cross eyed about 12 times fyi |
| 21:42.02 | Ackis | and i think i now have a m x n x o table |
| 21:42.51 | Grum | what in the world are you doing? |
| 21:42.59 | Grum | because this can surely be done more efficient ^^ |
| 21:43.00 | Ackis | frankly i have no idea |
| 21:43.03 | Ackis | lol |
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| 21:43.37 | Ackis | while (1) fork(); |
| 21:43.41 | Ellipsis | Grum, sorry I was AFK >_> |
| 21:43.41 | Grum | well .. my magic ball is broken .. cant really help you then =D |
| 21:43.46 | Grum | suuuuuuure |
| 21:43.50 | Grum | filthy lies |
| 21:43.54 | Ellipsis | but yeah, that tends to be the best way to do it, especially if 90% of things are the default |
| 21:44.20 | Grum | well .. code it! |
| 21:44.24 | Ackis | i'm gonna see if this works then I'll do a commit keke |
| 21:44.30 | Ellipsis | keeps the SVs small as well |
| 21:44.53 | Ackis | i went with Ellipsis idea of "foo" = true which is why I'm now in a 3_d table |
| 21:45.17 | Grum | i'd have to scroll up to see what you were doing |
| 21:45.24 | Grum | but i tihnk the idea behind it wasn't there |
| 21:45.44 | Ackis | first mod ever and I'm at 2800 lines of code... gg |
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| 21:45.56 | Grum | what does your mod do? |
| 21:46.05 | Grum | because i'm not even at that many lines |
| 21:46.06 | Sole | Ackis: wtf is it? |
| 21:46.22 | Ellipsis | Ackis, you shouldn't need a 3D table o.o |
| 21:46.31 | Ackis | it will display which recipes you don't know |
| 21:46.36 | Ellipsis | alliance and horde are just two more properties of the recipe just like the others |
| 21:46.37 | Sole | oh that one |
| 21:46.39 | Ackis | so i have a database of all the recipes out there |
| 21:46.48 | Sole | why the fuck does is it 2.8k lines then |
| 21:46.55 | Ackis | there's a LOT of recipes |
| 21:46.58 | Ellipsis | the database probably takes up a big chunk, Sole? :P |
| 21:46.59 | Sole | theres a couple hundred |
| 21:47.06 | Grum | Ackis: you mean there is no Periodic table for recipies? |
| 21:47.06 | Ackis | for each profession |
| 21:47.22 | Ellipsis | Grum, PT is nowhere near exhaustive enough for such an application |
| 21:47.30 | Grum | why? |
| 21:47.32 | Ackis | Grum: new to modding, wanted to do it myself, nor would I think it would have enough info for me |
| 21:47.40 | Grum | did you check? |
| 21:47.42 | Sole | 1457 items found |
| 21:47.44 | Grum | you might be reinventing the wheel |
| 21:47.44 | Ellipsis | because PT lacks so much data |
| 21:47.48 | Sole | wheres the other 1.4k lines go? :P |
| 21:47.50 | Grum | then add it! |
| 21:47.58 | Ackis | about 400 lines are comments i think :P lol |
| 21:48.02 | Ellipsis | pfft, nobody wants to deal with the compression |
| 21:48.09 | Silowyi | hey ckknight you here? |
| 21:48.13 | Ackis | <-- old compared to all the other people out there so i need to comment so I know wtf i'm doing |
| 21:48.13 | Silowyi | hmm guess not |
| 21:48.14 | Ellipsis | hey, I think Ackis has a good idea and is doing it well. :P |
| 21:48.27 | Ackis | lol that makes one of us :P |
| 21:48.31 | Ellipsis | well...other than the 3D table which is confusing me |
| 21:48.56 | Silowyi | his new Fubar with Rock or whatever isn't saving settings when I relog |
| 21:49.05 | Ackis | n = recipe name, m = recipe stats, o = recipe flags |
| 21:49.06 | Ellipsis | there are n recipes, each with m pieces of information...what else is needed? |
| 21:49.12 | Ellipsis | Silowyi: update, that was fixed |
| 21:49.29 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r49545 10ItemValue/ (5 files): |
| 21:49.29 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 21:49.29 | CIA-22 | - Fixed inspect EQValue |
| 21:49.29 | CIA-22 | - ItemValue -> self |
| 21:49.29 | CIA-22 | - Changed the syntax of many functions |
| 21:49.29 | Silowyi | hmm k |
| 21:49.36 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r49546 10ItemValue_DrDamage/ (CasterSet.lua MeleeSet.lua): |
| 21:49.36 | CIA-22 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 21:49.36 | CIA-22 | - Use new RegisterSet and RegisterSetType syntax |
| 21:49.51 | Sole | prof_table[n].m ? and whats recipe flags? |
| 21:50.02 | Grum | where are we flying today? |
| 21:50.04 | Sole | kinky |
| 21:50.09 | Grum | Morning light? |
| 21:50.20 | Silowyi | Obviously one of my aquaintances from Horizons ^_^ |
| 21:50.27 | Silowyi | but they never implemented dragon transport :( |
| 21:50.27 | Grum | *hurts head to remember more names* |
| 21:50.36 | Grum | no .. cheats .. liars ... |
| 21:50.41 | Grum | they did implement lairs :D |
| 21:50.50 | Sole | Horizons...was meant to be so good |
| 21:50.54 | Grum | yeah |
| 21:50.55 | Sole | yet so bad |
| 21:50.56 | Silowyi | only because of Mark Vargas and me |
| 21:51.06 | Sole | you worked on it? |
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| 21:51.20 | Silowyi | I was a contract developer more or less |
| 21:51.24 | Grum | i made the second version of the nice 'bumpmapped' worldmap ^^ |
| 21:51.34 | Sole | interesting |
| 21:51.35 | Grum | horrrible |
| 21:51.38 | buu | NEVAR. |
| 21:51.41 | Ellipsis | bleh, stupid router |
| 21:51.42 | Sole | the game promised a lot |
| 21:51.45 | Grum | yeah |
| 21:52.02 | Sole | but it delivered way too late |
| 21:52.02 | Grum | it never delivered |
| 21:52.02 | Grum | setscale ftw |
| 21:52.11 | Sole | true |
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| 21:52.17 | Sole | me and my bro gave it 6 months |
| 21:52.29 | Sole | because we're long time MMO players and we realise shit can take a while |
| 21:52.31 | Ellipsis | what are we talking about? o.o |
| 21:52.31 | Silowyi | Anyway Jeremy... forget his last name |
| 21:52.38 | Sole | but seriously |
| 21:52.40 | Silowyi | was the only developer who bothered to do anything about dragons or with dragons |
| 21:52.55 | Silowyi | so when he left fairly early on, dragons were left without a content developer |
| 21:53.08 | Sole | it advertised 9 major features on the box and it had like 1 or none of those at release...bad |
| 21:53.17 | Sole | wow 1 developer for dragons!? |
| 21:53.21 | Silowyi | Mark Vargas (Manga) used to hang out in chat a lot, and I would constantly give him ideas and harp at him about how dragons were |
| 21:53.25 | Sole | such a huge selling point of thegame got 1 developer? |
| 21:53.44 | Silowyi | so finally he was like "Look, no one cares about dragons, its obvious you do, how would you like to do some dev work for dragons?" |
| 21:53.54 | Grum | lol |
| 21:53.59 | Sole | wow |
| 21:54.02 | Grum | that was so way after i left ^^ |
| 21:54.16 | Silowyi | so I wrote something like about 40-50 quests, the entire Ancient Rite of Passage, about six short stories (and editted a few others) |
| 21:54.20 | Grum | i think my proxy still connects to that irc-server O.o |
| 21:54.23 | Sole | nobody cares about dragons....so they didnt care about delivering on their promises |
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| 21:54.36 | Grum | lol Silowyi :D |
| 21:55.09 | Silowyi | and together Mark and I designed lairs, but it was mostly his design and my story/naming/quests. |
| 21:55.09 | Silowyi | then they fired him after he came up with his Dark World idea |
| 21:55.17 | Grum | hehe |
| 21:55.20 | Silowyi | after showing the idea at E3, they fired him that weekend. |
| 21:55.30 | Sole | what was the Dark World idea? |
| 21:55.34 | Grum | lol |
| 21:55.35 | Silowyi | Dark World would have been amazing conceptually, but there was no way they'd ever be able to pull it off |
| 21:55.41 | Grum | but lets get back to lua |
| 21:55.49 | Grum | same was the 'moving blight' |
| 21:56.03 | Grum | BAH I NEED TO CODE |
| 21:56.04 | Grum | afk |
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| 21:56.13 | Sole | Horizons started out too big |
| 21:56.16 | Silowyi | anyway if you look through the old news archives if they go back far enough, you can probably find Silowyi Dracotiri credited for quite a few things |
| 21:56.26 | Sole | they wanted everything and anything and didnt have the organisation or manpower to pull it off |
| 21:56.43 | Sole | so thats your name? |
| 21:56.53 | alcohol | is that a name ? |
| 21:56.54 | Silowyi | not my real name |
| 21:57.05 | Sole | duh |
| 21:57.05 | Sole | Dracotiri = dragons |
| 21:57.09 | Silowyi | but its the name I had him credit stuff to :P |
| 21:57.10 | Sole | Im a moron |
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| 21:57.21 | Silowyi | my real name is by far too frickin' unique |
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| 21:57.29 | orionshock | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8617.msg141317#msg141317 |
| 21:57.33 | Silowyi | there is ltierally only one family in the U.S. with my last name :P so I never tell it. |
| 21:58.06 | alcohol | smells like an immigrant ! :< |
| 21:58.11 | Grum | omg Silowyi you have your own addon! :D |
| 21:59.12 | Silowyi | its a fairly sucky addon that has serious display issues if you run it for too long |
| 21:59.18 | Grum | hehe |
| 21:59.46 | Grum | is it likely that blizzard will evar change the 'yardsizes' of zones? O.o |
| 21:59.55 | Grum | prolly not right? =D |
| 21:59.58 | Silowyi | but I'm sort of waiting for someone to come up with a good spell/ability library before I work on it more, either that or getting annoyed enough that I make my own. |
| 22:00.50 | Grum | that's quite hard tbh |
| 22:01.02 | Grum | you have to have the complete wowhead database in memory O.o |
| 22:03.54 | Sole | Silowyi: spell/ability lib...do you mean a complete database of all spells and abils? |
| 22:04.03 | Grum | and mostly what effect it would be |
| 22:04.07 | Grum | *have |
| 22:04.18 | Sole | hmm |
| 22:04.25 | Sole | why not just use the API? |
| 22:04.35 | Sole | shouldnt you really only care about spells of your current class? |
| 22:04.46 | alcohol | Grum: well, LightHeaded has wowhead quest comments. |
| 22:04.46 | alcohol | so.. |
| 22:04.47 | alcohol | :> |
| 22:05.05 | Grum | remember me never to have that addon =D |
| 22:05.11 | alcohol | I love it. |
| 22:05.13 | alcohol | <3 |
| 22:05.18 | Sole | "I put my beer in the spa...and it came out warm :(" |
| 22:05.22 | Sole | my friend is a retard |
| 22:05.36 | Sole | thought Id put it out there |
| 22:05.49 | nymbia | nuh uh water always makes things cold |
| 22:06.17 | alcohol | even when the water is boiling? |
| 22:06.31 | nymbia | correct. |
| 22:06.47 | Sole | hi nymbi |
| 22:06.53 | Sole | been a while |
| 22:07.20 | nymbia | hey sole :) |
| 22:07.35 | Sole | where've you been? |
| 22:08.04 | nymbia | just havent been playing |
| 22:08.25 | Sole | you bastard |
| 22:08.28 | Sole | I WAS WORRIED! |
| 22:08.33 | nymbia | <3 |
| 22:08.35 | Sole | what if you were hit by a bus!? |
| 22:08.37 | Sole | HOW WOULD I KNOW!? |
| 22:08.42 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 22:08.43 | Sole | YOU BOTCH |
| 22:08.44 | nymbia | i'd tell you THAT |
| 22:08.48 | nymbia | obviously. |
| 22:08.49 | nymbia | ;) |
| 22:08.52 | Ellipsis | no, nymbia can't get hit by a bus, we'd never get pet cast bars =[ |
| 22:08.57 | Sole | ok then |
| 22:09.04 | Sole | hmm Im tempted to start playing WoW again |
| 22:09.10 | Sole | after Fury Challenge is over |
| 22:09.22 | Sole | speaking of which I gotta go figure out a build yo |
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| 22:11.52 | Sole | so last christmas I got an unfoldable 100ml shot glass |
| 22:12.00 | Sole | one of the most useful presents I ever got |
| 22:14.14 | Sole | nobody wants to talk |
| 22:14.18 | Sole | alright I see how it is |
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| 22:14.46 | Grum | ^^ |
| 22:14.48 | Ellipsis | I gotta get going anyway |
| 22:15.08 | Grum | not allowed! |
| 22:15.09 | Keias | A build for WoW or Fury again? :P |
| 22:15.11 | Ellipsis | apparently buying furniture and dishes so we can put the computers somewhere and eat > staying home and playing WoW :( |
| 22:15.22 | Ackis | i'd talk but i'm fighting with my cat between ui reloads... |
| 22:15.36 | Sole | build for fury |
| 22:15.44 | JCinDE | quick question...how can I tell what a frame inherits from? |
| 22:15.55 | Sole | gotta figure out a overlord build...using air and some other element not sure which though |
| 22:15.58 | Sole | might go air/fire |
| 22:19.44 | Ackis | w00t i just made wow crash |
| 22:20.58 | Sole | done it before as well :) |
| 22:21.10 | Sole | its quite fun figuring out wtf caused it too |
| 22:21.15 | Jagobah | ;o |
| 22:21.16 | Sole | ...its not =\ |
| 22:21.22 | Ackis | it's something nil that's haunting me |
| 22:21.25 | Ackis | nerf nil imo |
| 22:21.39 | Sole | pretty hard to debug something when the damn thing crashes through loading screen |
| 22:22.12 | Voxx | anyone on that is good at eePanel2 scripting? |
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| 22:22.57 | Ackis | i still like that back in uni i made pine core dump with stuff i was screwing around with |
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| 22:27.24 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r49547 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua Dcr_opt.lua Decursive.lua): |
| 22:27.24 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 22:27.24 | CIA-22 | - Decurive's icon will become gray if no curing spell is available or if all types of afflictions are unchecked in "curing options". |
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| 22:31.11 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r49548 10Hourglass2/Hourglass2/ (Hourglass2.toc Locale-enUS.lua core.lua): |
| 22:31.11 | CIA-22 | Hourglass2: |
| 22:31.11 | CIA-22 | -Spelling FTL |
| 22:31.11 | CIA-22 | -adjusted it to actualy work with additions after this mornings commit |
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| 22:32.59 | Ackis | well this is odd |
| 22:33.12 | Ackis | i've undone the changes to my add-on and ti's still crashing wow |
| 22:34.37 | Grum | prolly a nice structure in your savedvariables? |
| 22:35.00 | Ackis | yah gonna punt that out also and just relook at things... I did some var renaming as well so i may have missed something |
| 22:42.31 | orionshock | ZOMG ppl learn how to read errors -- not that hard :P |
| 22:42.48 | orionshock | fking lib crayon |
| 22:45.24 | Grum | strange - http://www.wowhead.com/?object=181270 - according to wowhead there is no felweed in Netherstorm .. eventhough you do have it in those bio-domes |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-22 | 03quagmire * r49549 10nQuestLog/events.lua: |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-22 | nQuestLog:events.lua |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-22 | - Changed methods to open/close Blizzard quest log so that the Escape key will properly close it now. |
| 22:47.13 | CIA-22 | - Added LightHeaded function call to change LightHeaded's quest display when clicked in nQuestLog minion. |
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| 22:50.04 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 22:50.05 | sag_ich_nicht | 09/23/07 00:49:35> Nefarian yells: Worthless $N! Your friends will join you soon enough! |
| 22:52.46 | liquidzoo | lol |
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| 22:53.03 | Nickenyfiken | $N should be name? |
| 22:53.11 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, but it's not. |
| 22:53.15 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 22:53.17 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 22:53.23 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 22:53.25 | sag_ich_nicht | should be name |
| 22:53.36 | nymbia | yeah |
| 22:53.58 | nymbia | in the yell he says the name, in the voiceover he says wretch |
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| 23:20.47 | kenlyric | bah! steam won't let me buy anything. I want to spend money! |
| 23:28.45 | Grum | kenlyric: buy me gold |
| 23:30.05 | Ackis | well, fyi neverending while loops = wow crashes rofl |
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| 23:30.55 | Grum | lol |
| 23:30.57 | Grum | you nubcake :D |
| 23:31.12 | Ackis | I forgot to change the variable name that incremented my while loop lol |
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| 23:31.15 | Ackis | meh |
| 23:31.18 | Grum | hahaha :D |
| 23:32.15 | Grum | where is ckknight |
| 23:32.17 | Grum | the slacker! |
| 23:32.36 | Grum | playing afk and all |
| 23:34.22 | kenlyric | ck doesn't play. |
| 23:34.27 | kenlyric | 1 level every six months. |
| 23:34.39 | Grum | slacker |
| 23:40.24 | Grum | how would you call the 'optimal route' on a racetrack? |
| 23:40.34 | magma | what's a good revision of cartographer to use? head seems to be breaking a bunch of stuff . . . |
| 23:40.37 | Grum | i kinda need an algorithm to caluclate that :) |
| 23:40.44 | Grum | magma: last one works fine here |
| 23:40.54 | Grum | just make sure you get the last version of WAU |
| 23:41.03 | Grum | and reinstall (yes REinstall all addons - option from the menu) |
| 23:41.17 | magma | mmm, ok |
| 23:42.03 | Seerah | fine here |
| 23:42.58 | magma | ah, wau won't work for me . . . I'm on linux |
| 23:43.20 | Grum | ah it's called 'Racing line' :D |
| 23:43.24 | Archarodim | then try jwowupdater (it's java) |
| 23:43.24 | nogudnik | Grum: do you mean an algorithm that will find the shortest path that visits all points? Sounds like the "travelling salesman" problem. There is some discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelling_salesman_problem |
| 23:43.44 | Grum | nogudnik: http://grum.nl/images/terrokar.jpg <-- TSP has been done ;) |
| 23:44.03 | magma | I've just been manually svn co and svn up'ing |
| 23:44.07 | magma | anything wrong with that? |
| 23:44.15 | Archarodim | yep |
| 23:44.16 | Grum | should be ok |
| 23:44.30 | Archarodim | external may not be updated correctly |
| 23:44.37 | magma | hrm |
| 23:44.42 | magma | k, I'll look into that |
| 23:44.45 | Seerah | it all depends on the errors you are getting |
| 23:44.45 | Grum | hmm yes that is a big problem :D |
| 23:45.05 | magma | nah, it tries to update externals |
| 23:45.13 | magma | my problems are with missing libs, like AceConsole |
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| 23:45.32 | Archarodim | then externals are not updated correctly |
| 23:45.35 | Seerah | Then some author didn't set up their externals properly |
| 23:45.39 | magma | k |
| 23:45.39 | Grum | nogudnik: if you check that screeny, i want to 'smooth out' the line with the knowledge i can see ~70 yds around me |
| 23:45.58 | Grum | any ideas? =D |
| 23:46.12 | Grum | (or google terms for that matter) |
| 23:46.19 | Archarodim | http://code.google.com/p/jwowupdater/ |
| 23:46.23 | Seerah | check your error to find out which addon is searching for that library and notify the author. Until then, download Ace2 (and any other missing libs) as standalone |
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| 23:47.40 | nogudnik | Yeah, just checked it out. I misunderstood what you where asking about. Sounds more like an n-point curve fitting algoithm. I'm afraid it's been too long since I had to care about that kind of think that I can't be much help to you :-( |
| 23:48.02 | Grum | got some google terms? :D |
| 23:48.42 | Grum | basicly: think of all those points as circles with a diameter of ~60yds |
| 23:48.55 | Grum | to see that point - i have to at least pass through that circle |
| 23:49.37 | Grum | TSP can push me a long way towards the shortest single point route |
| 23:49.39 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r49550 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: frFR fix - Thank you Khyaz ! |
| 23:49.52 | Grum | doing it for a circle is .. like .. doable after with some sick math O.o |
| 23:50.08 | Grum | oh .. mmm maybe not even sick math |
| 23:51.27 | Xinhuan | i suggest not even trying, grum |
| 23:51.34 | Grum | guess so =D |
| 23:51.43 | Grum | it's quite hard .. mindblowing hard |
| 23:51.48 | Grum | especially as it might change the TSP .. ^^ |
| 23:52.04 | Xinhuan | doing local optimzations is enough |
| 23:52.24 | Grum | i do have the 'these points are close enough to be seen when flying through the middle' coded now |
| 23:52.33 | Xinhuan | meaning, find nodes that are close to each other <30 yards, and find their centriod as a replcement single node for pathing |
| 23:52.49 | Grum | doing it for distance <160 yds |
| 23:53.09 | Xinhuan | dont make it that huge |
| 23:53.10 | nogudnik | Grum: for the non-circluar route, you generally use a polinomial curve fit. However, since what you need to find what is basically the smallest surface area. it's a bit beyond me I'm afraid. |
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| 23:53.15 | magma | the error I'm getting is this: Bad argument #3 to 'NewModule'. "AceConsole-2.0" is an unknown library. |
| 23:53.29 | Grum | 1 problem - i can not make curves |
| 23:53.33 | Xinhuan | if you need help with algo, just ask ;p |
| 23:53.49 | Grum | Xinhuan: fix wowhead.com |
| 23:53.54 | magma | but AceConsole-2.0 is in the libs subdirectory, and it's being updated as an external |
| 23:53.55 | Grum | it reports no felweed in netherstorm |
| 23:53.56 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 23:54.03 | Xinhuan | now that's not my issue |
| 23:54.12 | Grum | BUT THERE IS FELWEEED IN NETHERSTORM GODDAMMIT |
| 23:54.13 | Grum | =D |
| 23:54.19 | Xinhuan | my netherstorm map has HEAPS of felweed |
| 23:54.32 | Grum | well only in the eco-domes |
| 23:54.39 | Xinhuan | in fact cartograher_noteshare has been pretty generous among my entire guild |
| 23:54.49 | Xinhuan | to the point my maps are all filled to the brim |
| 23:54.52 | Archarodim | magma: check in the .toc and in embeds.xml if AceConsole is called |
| 23:54.59 | Xinhuan | and i'm not even a miner or a herber |
| 23:55.01 | Grum | i just harvest wowhead.com ;) |
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| 23:55.20 | magma | Archarodim: it's listed in the toc, but there's no embeds.xml |
| 23:55.20 | Xinhuan | my data is prob more accurate than wowhead ;p |
| 23:55.53 | Grum | simple script that downloads cartographer_mining/herbalism, extracts babble-ore/herb, extracts the herbs wow knows, extracts the node-locations from wowhead, slaps em in a saved.vars file ;) |
| 23:56.02 | Archarodim | you cant't download jwowupdater ( http://code.google.com/p/jwowupdater/ ) ? |
| 23:56.08 | magma | sure I can |
| 23:56.24 | Xinhuan | i don't really trust data from external sources which can be uploaded with fake data |
| 23:56.36 | Grum | Xinhuan: trueish |
| 23:56.37 | Xinhuan | how many people came to me with patch 2.2 enchanting mats |
| 23:56.42 | Xinhuan | a few hundred |
| 23:56.50 | Xinhuan | aq enchants still use old mats |
| 23:56.55 | Xinhuan | wowhead reports therwise |
| 23:57.01 | Grum | but i cba to start all-over again ;) |
| 23:57.06 | Xinhuan | same thing, wicked flame spessarite, etc |
| 23:57.09 | Xinhuan | doesn't exist |
| 23:57.14 | Xinhuan | but reported because seen on PTR |
| 23:57.28 | Grum | and seriously have a S I C K amounts of plants in my database O.o |
| 23:57.34 | Grum | oh and mines ofc |
| 23:57.56 | Grum | afkish loading the new data-set |
| 23:58.19 | Xinhuan | half your data is also probably incorrect because wowhead did nto reset their database after blizz moved half the nodes to be closer to mobs |
| 23:58.40 | Grum | yup i know |
| 23:58.46 | Grum | yours as well |
| 23:58.55 | Grum | unless everyone reset their database |
| 23:59.06 | Xinhuan | only because my data is equally tainted with wowhead shared data from noteshare module |
| 23:59.18 | Xinhuan | sucks~_ |
| 23:59.20 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 23:59.20 | purl | :/ |
| 23:59.28 | Xinhuan | purl agrees! |
| 23:59.31 | Grum | not really, if you had the data before the patch you had wrong data |
| 23:59.34 | Grum | !lart Grum |
| 23:59.37 | Grum | ~lart Grum |
| 23:59.37 | purl | takes Grum to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 23:59.57 | Grum | anyhow, i was going to make a 'fix' for Cartographer which would mark 'new nodes' |
