IRC log for #wowace on 20070918

00:00.22ckknightMajorPayne: I use a mac, I just use SVN
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00:00.34MajorPaynewell what do you use? why is it so vague?
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00:01.06MajorPayneit's shitty that you use a Mac and nowhere on the page is it described or implied "hey - mac users, I'm a world reknown author of many of th addons you use.. and you know what? I use a mac and update my addons via this method"
00:01.23MajorPayneinstead I come in here telling you, the author, of a problem and I get talked to like I'm an idiot
00:01.28ckknightusers aren't supposed to use SVN as a release mechanism
00:01.31MajorPayneand now, because of your reluctance to help....
00:01.34ckknightwhich is the general issue
00:01.36MajorPaynemy entire UI is fucked up
00:01.43MajorPayneit's harsh but I'm just mad
00:01.46ckknightfrankly, feel free to bitch at the people who are supposed to be running this show
00:01.57ckknightbecause as I've been so frankly told, that's definitely not me
00:02.09MajorPaynewell it's Ace, it's your thing
00:02.11MajorPayneyou made it
00:02.13MajorPaynetake control
00:02.18ckknightI'm not "allowed"
00:02.19MajorPayneand standardize how yourshit is updated man
00:02.24MajorPayneblah
00:04.43sbckknight: absolutely now show-stopping bugs until now - some error here and there (and i really dont understand why my gf gets those errors while i dont, but.. *shrug*) - nothing to complain about here :o nice job IMO :)
00:05.08ckknightalmost all issues have been caused by updaters not working right thus far
00:05.14ckknight(note: not all, some were legit bugs)
00:05.49genetik-ckknight: you aware of any bugs with cartographer blanking out (turning black) the main global frame?
00:05.51sbi'm pretty sure not those i experienced so far ;p
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00:06.18ckknightgenetik-: did you update properly? do you have any errors? what updater do you use?
00:06.21ennuilgtbh, pretty much everything from the *.wowace.com site(s) is considered "in development" and people shouldn't be downloading/installing it blindly if they don't know how to fix errors that may crop up.
00:06.46alcoholoopsie
00:06.51alcoholminimizing cellular was a bad idea
00:06.52sbckk: that frame strata thing is one of them :p  (latest WAU (same as my version here) - no externals - auto deps - latest everything)
00:07.03genetik-updated properly with wau 1.9.44.654
00:07.10ckknightsb: frame strata thing?
00:07.18ckknightgenetik-: hrm... any errors?
00:07.23alcoholis there really no good updating method for mac users ? =(
00:07.26sbckkL "Usage: SetFrameStrata"
00:07.30ckknightno, alcohol, there's not
00:07.31sbits the error genetik- has
00:07.32genetik-ckknight: working on that.  i have my errors off by default
00:07.37ckknight...yet
00:07.37genetik-yeah.. that's what it sounds like, sb
00:07.39alcoholharsh
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00:08.19sbmust be caused by some other addon she has... mh
00:09.23sbckknight: i reinstalled all addons w/o externals - still there :/
00:09.25genetik-\AddOns\Cartographer_LookNFeel\LookNFeel.lua:1198: Usage: WorldMapFrame: SetFrameStrata(level)
00:09.29Kalman|Er... jwowupdater seems to run okay for me on OS X...
00:10.19ckknightgenetik-: hrm...
00:10.20genetik-it doesn't error until i exit the cartographer map window
00:10.24ckknightokay, weird...
00:10.29ckknightlet's try to figure this out.
00:11.06KemayoMajorPayne: Try updating with http://wowacepy.googlecode.com -- I've been told it'll work on macs.  If you don't mind the evils of the terminal, that is.
00:11.26Arcaiai fixed it ck
00:11.27sbckknight: yup and the strange thing is i cant reproduce it here :o
00:11.29Arcaia>.>
00:11.32ckknightArcaia: yay!
00:11.36Arcaiathe embeds were being gay.
00:11.39ckknightArcaia: hugs and kisses all around!
00:11.44Arcaia>.>
00:11.46Arcaia<-- Male.
00:11.55sbspeaking of gay... :P
00:11.59ckknightyea, but you still want my body
00:11.59sb*hides*
00:12.06Arcaianah, im engaged ;P
00:12.15sbmhhhm
00:12.46Arcaiaincorporate vertical bars and make [PercentHP] and [Level] their own Text option, and I'll want your body.
00:13.11ckknightwell, you can add custom texts
00:13.13ArcaiaI know i can already do it, but im saying make it a standard [on the [percenthp][level]
00:13.14ckknightand place where you want
00:13.20Arcaiawanna see ck?
00:13.24ckknightyea, sure
00:15.11Arcaiahttp://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_091707_201420.jpg
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00:16.15Diaowow
00:16.19Diaothat's a huge ui o_O
00:16.38Arcaiaresolution wise?
00:16.44ckknighthey, not bad
00:16.51Diaoer
00:16.57Diaorelative to the resolution i mean
00:17.05Arcaia;P
00:17.10ckknightArcaia: I miss my Belf *sigh*
00:17.23Arcaiame and my fiancee have 2 accounts each
00:17.30Arcaiaboth of us have alliance and horde
00:17.33Arcaiaon shattered hand US
00:17.46Arcaia!c us Shattered Hand Arcaia
00:17.47ThraeBotArcaia: Arcaia, Level 70 Human Rogue (31/0/30). 8834 HP; +10 Energy; 1513 AP; 298.400 Melee DPS; 20.88% melee crit; 165 melee hit; 26.28% dodge; 12 resilience;[[ TBR: 1282 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24ynam ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wbdfl ][ Updated: Mon Sep 17 14:45:32 2007 EST ]]
00:17.50Arcaia!c us Shattered Hand Frug
00:17.52ThraeBotArcaia: Frug, Level 22 Blood Elf Mage (0/0/13). 787 HP; 1410 Mana; 71 mana regen; 2 spell crit; 4.98% dodge;[[ TBR: 61 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo43ux ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jdryw ][ Updated: Mon Sep 17 20:31:16 2007 EST ]]
00:18.00Arcaia!c us Shattered Hand Nacrissa
00:18.03ThraeBotArcaia: Nacrissa, Level 21 Blood Elf Priest (0/0/12). 742 HP; 1220 Mana; 69 mana regen; 2 spell crit; 3 +spell dmg/heal; 7 shadow dmg (10); 5.01% dodge;[[ TBR: 149 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yo8fc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uxvkb ][ Updated: Mon Sep 17 20:31:27 2007 EST ]]
00:18.04Arcaia!c us Shattered Hand Sakakii
00:18.04ThraeBotSorry Arcaia, you must wait 11 seconds before making another request.
00:18.09Arcaiaanyways ;P
00:18.15Arcaia!c us Shattered Hand Sakakii
00:18.18ThraeBotArcaia: Sakakii, Level 70 Human Paladin (40/21/0). 6977 HP; 9183 Mana; 166 mana regen; 52 mp5; 12151 Armour; 80.400 Melee DPS; 4.21% melee crit; 101 spell crit; 225 +spell dmg; 1024 +heal; 85 defense; 5.41% dodge; 6.40% block;[[ TBR: 1126 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqplz3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3a9kqq ][ Updated: Mon Sep 17 20:31:41 2007 EST ]]
00:18.30Arcaiamy rogue, her paladin, my mage, her shadowpriest
00:18.48Arcaiawe'z a couple of gamers ;D
00:18.56Kaeltenhttp://files.wowace.com/sw-a.html
00:19.13genetik-ckknight: just an update, but removing my cartographer savedvariables files doesn't fix that strata issue
00:21.14ckknighthrm
00:21.28BejittKaelten: new layout?
00:21.34sbmhh checking that error message again *starting computer*
00:21.38CIA-2203yssaril * r49168 10YssGridLayout/ (YssGridLayout.lua YssGridLayout.toc):
00:21.38CIA-22YssGridLayout:
00:21.38CIA-22-MT list is sorted my MTindex not alphabet now
00:21.40Kaeltennope letter filtering
00:23.00ckknightKaelten: ever fix LibStub, either the code itself or the permissions?
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00:24.54sbckknight: detailed error message soon ;p
00:25.02ckknightgood stuff
00:25.10ckknightif you can somehow figure out what it's actually passing in, that'd be great
00:25.29Wobworkanyone in the UK here?
00:25.44Wobwork(Naturally at an insane time of day)
00:25.46genetik-ckknight: is there an easy way to dump that value?
00:25.48Aileen_man i was expecting things to blow up left and right, i am kinda disappointed that the only errors i got were errors in my own volumefu because i broke it earlier
00:26.12Kaeltennope got distracted
00:26.24ckknightgenetik-: Rock("LibRockConsole-1.0"):PrintLiteral(thingy)
00:26.32genetik-k
00:27.04sbckknight: http://pastey.net/73987
00:27.30Kemayockknight: Tangental to my earlier FuBarPlugin question, do you plan on making a LibDewdrop-3.0 at some time in the future?
00:27.51ckknightit's quite possible
00:27.57Bejitthah wow.. i really like the rock config window
00:28.16Bejittmainly that it's not just one addon's config
00:28.26ckknight:-)
00:28.29genetik-Rock("LibRockConsole-1.0"):PrintLiteral(value); shows that value is 'nil'
00:28.34ckknightgenetik-: okay
00:29.24Bejittthat's the main reason i started using fubar :(
00:29.24Kemayockknight: Okay, thanks.
00:29.42Antiarcckknight: Cartographer_Stats probably needs Tourist-2.0 as an X-Embed
00:29.53AntiarcOr just Cart itself
00:30.04CIA-2203ckknight * r49169 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer_LookNFeel - possible bugfix
00:30.08ckknightAntiarc: I'm thinking I'm gonna make a compat layer for Tourist
00:30.45ckknightAntiarc: also, I have no idea why the Parser-3.0 compat layer is messing up, since it transfers requests directly as well as making sure to load old registrations
00:30.59sbckknight: checking again in ~10 minutes ;p
00:31.08Antiarcckknight: The error is reproducable with the UI I linked. I'm reproducing it now. No errors.
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00:31.22ckknightAntiarc: what's the easiest way to reproduce?
00:31.31AntiarcJust install that UI and hit something. No threat data.
00:31.33ckknightnote: running the UI you linked
00:31.36ckknightah, okay
00:31.45AntiarcDisabling or downgrading Parrot and Pitbull fixes it.
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00:31.56AntiarcAdding debug code now to see if I can figure it out
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00:32.32ckknighthrm...
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00:33.27ckknightreproduced
00:33.32ckknightI _will_ get to the bottom of this
00:33.37ckknighteven if it kills me
00:33.43ckknightbut preferably, I'll sacrifice someone else
00:33.51ckknightum.... Gamefaq
00:33.53ckknightyea
00:33.58ckknightI _will_ get to the bottom of this
00:34.01ckknighteven if it kills Gamefaq
00:34.16sbckknight: bad patch :p
00:34.19Nosraclol
00:34.26MajorPayneis this related to the issue I was having?
00:34.34ckknightsb: how so?
00:34.38MajorPaynewith Pitbull being "on" but none of the frames appearing?
00:34.49AntiarcOkay, yeah, I am doing the registrations but the callback is never called, ckknight
00:34.53sbUsage: CartorgapherLookNFeelNonOverlayHolder:SetAlpha(alpha 0 or 1)
00:34.58Nosracckknight: I'm getting that also, fyi
00:34.59sb8 times on login
00:35.23sbtell me if you need detailted error message :p
00:35.26Nosracckknight: it's just showing the backround
00:35.31ckknightsb: line number?
00:35.38sb1090
00:35.46sband 624
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00:37.04ckknightsb: I'm pretty certain the error would go away if you wiped your SV
00:37.14CIA-2203ckknight * r49170 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer_LookNFeel - another possible bugfix
00:37.14Aileen_should cowtip be controlling the rock tooltip?
00:37.22ckknightprobably
00:37.25ckknightbut it doesn't, and it's a bug
00:37.40NosracI got nearly 50 errors on the upgrade ( BugSack: http://wowace.pastey.net/73990 ) Should I give the SVs a reset as well?
00:37.51Nosrac(to ckknight, oops)
00:38.02ckknightno, Nosrac, your issue is that things didn't upgrade properly
00:38.06ckknightspecifically the PitBull modules
00:38.08NosracGotcha = )
00:38.41NosracI'll go get a bunch of downloads from wowace directly then.  Thanks.
00:38.49ckknightwhat updater you using?
00:39.19sbckknight: possibly - but i think its better to completely 'fix' it - so you wont have any other users complaining about this error :)
00:39.31sylvanaarits so cute how they limit level 1's ability to chat and who
00:40.27sbckknight: line 507 - attempt to compare two nil values (i think its the "and self.db.profile.overlayAlpha > self.db.profile.alpha")
00:40.46sylvanaaranyone know what the restrictions are
00:42.10sbckknight: changed alpha settings now (in config) - error gone
00:42.50Nosracckknight: Sorry, went to grab some dinner.  I'm using the Java client, since MacAceUpdater died with the changes to the files.wowace.com ;-P
00:43.04ckknightNosrac: WAU2?
00:43.09ckknightor something else?
00:43.14NosracHas that worked on Mac yet?
00:43.18NosracI haven't tried it in a while
00:43.24ckknightI dunno
00:43.27ckknightupdaters suck for mac
00:43.31NosracSure do =(
00:43.47NosracI'll go test Wau2 and tell you if it works
00:44.05ckknightI am just so drained of energy now
00:44.11ckknightafter sooo much whining
00:44.24NosracPeople need to understand betas = beta ;-/
00:44.37NosracEspecially after a huge update
00:44.47Wobworknono
00:44.49Wobworkbeta = beta
00:44.54Wobworkor better yet
00:44.55Nosraclol
00:44.57Wobworkbeta == beta
00:45.00NosracHow true
00:45.04Wobworkcause otherwise it's an assignation =)
00:45.10ckknightyou mom = beta
00:45.12ckknightdepends on the language
00:45.19Wobworkckknight: full of bugs?
00:45.25ckknightNosrac's mom ≠ beta
00:45.29Nosracrofl
00:45.44Wobworkwell most languages require at least the if() if you want a comparison and not an assignation =)
00:46.00ckknightyea
00:46.25Shiriklua> beta = true; return beta == (setfenv(0,{}) and beta)
00:46.25cladbotShirik: [string "beta = true; return beta == (setfenv(0,{}) ..."]:1: attempt to call global 'setfenv' (a nil value)
00:46.27Shirik!!
00:46.30Shirikcladhaire you suck
00:46.49Shirikgimmeh mai setfenv
00:46.51cladhairesetfenv shouldn't be hidden imo
00:46.53cladhaire*shrug*
00:46.54cladhairelua> setfenv
00:46.54cladbotcladhaire: nil
00:46.56cladhaireoh well
00:47.01cladhaireprobably gone for a good reason :P
00:48.28WobworkAnti-Shirik device =)
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00:55.32Nosracckknight: WAU2 doesn't work, still =(, but MAU released a mostly-working version
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00:55.59ckknightokay
00:56.02ckknightwell, here's what I recommend
00:56.10ckknightget every single addon that starts with Lib
00:56.12Killmoreckknight: pitbull target's target castbar doesnt work :(
00:56.13ckknightand see if it works
00:56.17NosracWell
00:56.19NosracI had to do that before ;-P
00:56.22Diaofinally warriors get a buff!
00:56.23Diao:O
00:56.33NosracI haven't ran wow since my previous report
00:56.34rob`what buff is that?
00:56.48Diaothey're reverting the daze/defense mechanic
00:56.51Diaoto how it works now
00:56.53NosracSorry if i confused you ;-P
00:57.00Diao:D
00:58.17KemayoNosrac: I recommend that you try http://wowacepy.googlecode.com/
00:58.56NebucadnezarHey ckknight, have you fixed or found out what's wrong with PB?
00:58.56NosracKemayo: I'll give it a try, thanks
00:59.12ckknightNebucadnezar: which issue was yours?
00:59.25NebucadnezarBlizz UI comes back each time I restart WoW
00:59.57sbwell - it happend for here - and it doesnt happen anymore, so i think its fixed ;
00:59.58sb;p
01:00.18ckknightNebucadnezar: any errors?
01:00.31NebucadnezarLoading up WAU2 now to see what's changed.  And, no ckknight.  No errors.
01:00.47sbNebucadnezar: i had that error like 8h ago
01:00.50sband now its gone
01:01.11NosracRofl.  Checkout the newest addon:  HulkHogansVsTheRock - Hide's the RockConfig Minimap Button
01:01.22ckknightsrsly, someone actually made that?
01:01.28NosracYeah! rofl
01:01.30sbyup
01:01.41sbPunkie
01:01.49NebucadnezarInstalling updates now.
01:01.51sb1 line :p
01:01.57Nosraclol
01:02.16NebucadnezarHate it when that happenz
01:03.37Wobworkone line? =)
01:03.44Wobworkthank god it didn't use AceLibrary =)
01:03.52ckknightwhat, no
01:03.53Nosraclol
01:03.55ckknightthen it's worthless
01:03.57ckknightand inefficient
01:03.59Wobworkhehe yeh =)
01:04.01ckknightcause it doesn't use Ace
01:04.09Wobworkit could use libstub!
01:04.19WobworkThen it'd be agRockstic
01:05.30NebucadnezarNope Still happening.  And still getting same LibRockComm "VER" error msg
01:05.40ckknight:-(
01:05.52ckknightNebucadnezar: that's because your LibRockComm-1.0s are not all up to date
01:06.09NebucadnezarI just updated everything that was new.
01:07.02MajorPaynethats the same thing I got
01:07.14MajorPayneI think something has an old version of it somewhere
01:07.16CIA-2203ckknight * r49171 10LibParser-4.0/LibParser-4.0.lua: LibParser-4.0 - actually refresh events after loading the Parser-3.0 compat layer.
01:08.13ckknightNebucadnezar: install LibRockComm-1.0 as a standalone
01:08.27CIA-2203yssaril * r49172 10YssGridLayout/ (YssGridLayout.lua YssGridLayout.toc):
01:08.27CIA-22YssGridLayout:
01:08.27CIA-22- fix for MT list not resetting when joining a raid
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01:09.53Kemayockknight: Something I've wondered for a while... can LibRockComm and AceComm interoperate?  I assume the answer would be no, but...
01:10.09ckknightone would think that, wouldn't they?
01:10.11ckknightmwahaha
01:10.14Nosraclol
01:10.37ckknightin WoW 2.2, AceComm-2.0 adds the features it's missing and thus will work with LibRockComm-1.0 seamlessly
01:10.43KemayoAwesome.
01:11.07ckknightso, given the situation that you have some guy running pre-Rock Cartographer and post-Rock Cartographer, the guild positions dealy will work between em
01:11.21ckknightor, say, for example, that Antiarc releases a Rock version of Threat-1.0
01:11.32ckknightit'd be able to communicate with the Ace2 version
01:11.35sboh hm
01:11.40sbAntiarc
01:11.45sbsomething is broken with threat :p
01:12.00ckknightpossibly my bad
01:12.04Antiarcsb: We know. Parser bug, working on it.
01:12.08Nosracckknight: that makes me happy.  I'd hate to have an emulation addon to send things back and forth :-/
01:12.09AntiarcYou don't get any threat showing up, I suspect.
01:12.19sbno, pet stuff
01:12.25sb100000 threat there
01:12.29Nosraclol
01:12.38AntiarcAll the time or just to open fights or what?
01:12.54sbinfight
01:13.12sbwhen others have like 500-1000 TPS, pets got >10000
01:13.20AntiarcHm
01:13.33AntiarcI was noticing something like that with my wife's hunter but I thought it was just the growl thing I've been chasing
01:13.41AntiarcI'll check it out ASAP
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01:13.53sbits a cat
01:13.54ckknightah, pets just want attention
01:13.58AntiarcMaybe a double-firing of parser events or something?
01:14.02AntiarcBecause I haven't touched the pet code in ages
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01:15.20Nebucadnezarckknight - I will try installing it now.
01:16.57NebucadnezarGreen bars in WAU2 mean what?  Installed and up to date?
01:17.45MajorPayneAnyone on a Mac using WAU2?
01:17.50MajorPayneI can't get it to launch
01:17.54NosracSame
01:18.02ckknightAntiarc: okay, here's what's screwy: I register something with Parser-3.0, upgrade with LibParser-4.0 et al, and the thing I registered works!
01:18.08NosracIt downloads it's own updates, then doesn't do anything
01:18.18MajorPayneI can't get it to run, period
01:18.20ckknightAntiarc: but Threat-1.0 still seems messed up
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01:18.31MajorPayneit just keeps asking me if  I want to trust a certificate
01:18.36AntiarcHrm.
01:18.42MajorPayneI "Trust" it and then it just ... does nothing
01:18.46MajorPayneno window, no interface
01:18.48NosracYep
01:18.53MajorPaynejust as if I never clicked on anything
01:18.54Wobworkomg hax =(
01:18.56ckknightwait, no, it did work
01:19.02NosracI wouldn't worry about it. No mac users have been able to do anything as far as I know
01:19.05Nebucadnezarckknight - WAU2 says LibRockComm is already installed.  Only LibParser shows out of date.
01:19.06AntiarcThrow a debug message into parseDamage() in the ClassModuleCore
01:19.06Tullerso you're saying you lied when you said you trusted it
01:19.13ckknightAntiarc: it worked with Heroic Strike
01:19.13AntiarcSee if the callback's being reached
01:19.18WobworkNosrac: is that a generic statement? =)
01:19.20ckknightokay, lemme check
01:19.43Antiarcckknight: Check a spellcast (heroic strike) and a melee attack
01:19.47NosracWobwork:  lol
01:19.52ckknightk
01:19.54AntiarcMight be that only some events are coming through
01:20.19AntiarcBut now I have to afk dinner
01:20.20AntiarcSo afk
01:20.21Antiarcdinner
01:20.26Nosraccya
01:20.28ckknightI want some
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01:20.38NebucadnezarSorry, just ate.
01:21.24Nebucadnezarckknight - You said to install LibRockComm standalone.  But the only thing I see in WAU2 is what's already installed.
01:21.48ckknight:-(
01:23.19charonAntiarc: you know what's funny, usually i'm the one who thinks its broken, but during todays heroics i noticed like nothing. for all i could tell threat was fine
01:23.27charons/its/it's/
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01:24.39NebucadnezarROFL
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01:24.51NebucadnezarI want my Pitbull.....
01:25.07GngskI heard someone moved it to tags
01:25.12Industrial~seen Funkeh`
01:25.15purlfunkeh` <n=funkydud@host81-157-50-199.range81-157.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 28m 16s ago, saying: 'nn'.
01:25.35Industrialarse :P
01:25.44KarlThePaganis FuBar moved to Rock? I should check out the forums for infos
01:25.54ckknightyep, KarlThePagan
01:25.55NosracKarlThePagan: Yup
01:26.04KarlThePaganty... that explains the oddities I'm seeing ;)
01:26.07Nosraclol
01:26.15IndustrialKarlThePagan: you are really cool for saying that second part straight away :o
01:26.19ruinnaany way to disable the Rock minimap icon?
01:26.29buuhahahahha
01:26.29IndustrialUsually I have to say that part \o/
01:26.32Industrialteamwork
01:26.38KarlThePagan;)
01:26.53KarlThePaganI understand... but I'm 4 weeks from a hard-deadline release @ work ;)
01:27.02KarlThePaganmy data thruput is up to 4 9's tho!
01:27.27ckknightruinna: you can get an addon HulkHoganVsTheRock
01:27.28charonAntiarc: take the above with a grain of salt though, turns out none of the others had updated their ace addons today.
01:27.40ruinnackknight: lol serious?
01:27.42Nosracrofl
01:27.44ckknightsadly, yes.
01:27.45NosracFunny, huh?
01:27.49Wobworksingle line addon =)
01:27.58ckknightI'll add an actual option soon
01:28.00ruinnawhat's the /script?
01:28.17NosracErgh
01:28.29Nosrac<PROTECTED>
01:28.33NosracBut, probably not
01:28.36ruinnahaha
01:28.44ckknightclose
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01:29.15charonbtw do _not_ _ever_ recommend the getmousefocus hide stuff. i accidentally did it while pointing into the 3d display. not funny.
01:29.39Nosraclol!
01:30.03charonor maybe it _is_ funny. either way it turns out you can't even enter any further commands in that state
01:30.41ckknightlol
01:31.14charonalt-f4 to the rescue!
01:31.22Nosraclol
01:31.47charonruinna: the foolproof one-liner is here: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/HulkHoganVsTheRock/core.lua
01:31.54ruinnacharon: tyty!
01:32.05NosracThat's not a one liner!
01:32.07charonthough i wonder, why does he do the "local _G = _G" no-op
01:32.48ruinna./script _G["LibRockConfig-1.0_MinimapButton"]:Hide()
01:32.58charonyep.
01:33.14NosracWould LibRockConfig-1.0_MinimapButton:Hide() not work?
01:33.25charonno, '-' isn't allowed as part of an identifier
01:33.31NosracGotcha
01:33.33Tullergetglobal
01:35.24KarlThePagani need to make a guild post about Rock stuff ;)
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01:35.54Nosrac;-)
01:36.00ckknightTuller: ick, use _G
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01:36.11Tullerckknight: its pointless :P
01:36.16ckknightit's faster
01:36.23Tullerwho the hell cares for one line? :)
01:36.29ckknightI care.
01:36.38ckknightjk, it's just about practice
01:36.45charonckknight is going to hate me for this but...
01:37.02TullerI can type getglobal faster than _G[ anyway :)
01:37.22Nosraclol
01:37.26charonsince good, correctly moving, not off-screen-movable minimap buttons are so hard to code, you should really take care to optimize your code you use to hide them. once per session.
01:37.34Tullerdamn underscore
01:38.03aestilpeople bitch over the stupidest stuff.
01:38.03Shadowed||making an object not movable off the screen is easy
01:38.15Shadowed||frame:ClampedToScreen(true)
01:38.16Tullerckknight: are you aware that moving rock config with stuff expanded is a big FPS hit? :)
01:38.21charongotta love how with all the great work in Rock the minimap button is the thing everyone agrees is the most stupid mistake :D
01:38.57Nosrachardly a mistake ;-P
01:39.03Nosracjust for all the hard-core people
01:39.18Nosraceverybody else in the world is thnking "I can't type /rock! I need button!"
01:39.19aestilbiggest oversight maybe?  cause you can't hide it/make it a fubar icon yet?
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01:39.27Tullermeh, the bongos minimap button wasn't optional the first time
01:39.45IVIadballcan someone assist me with Omen pls?
01:39.49NosracFuBar would've been better, but that's so unimportant at this point ;-P
01:39.49charonNosrac: you can just right-click any fubar...
01:39.55IVIadballI'm having an issue where it is not showing myself on the meter at all
01:40.09Shadowed|minimap buttons are stupid 99.999% of the time
01:40.14Nosraccharon:  Yeah, I agree
01:40.24aestil|/\|adall, have your whole guild run it, ???, profit.
01:40.26Shadowed|and just waste space
01:40.38IVIadballyes my whole guild is running it
01:40.41NosracShadowed: Definately
01:40.42NosracNice
01:40.49ckknightTuller: moving the frame itself?
01:40.53Tullerckknight: yes
01:40.57IVIadballwe have been running it since Karazhan and we are now on Teron Gorefiend in BT
01:40.58CIA-2203ominous * r49173 10Tattle/ (33 files in 33 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer
01:41.12Tullerckknight: step 1: expand parrot's options, step 2: move frame
01:41.15IVIadballit's been working for months and all of a sudden today it's not showing me on the meter
01:41.38Tullerits possible my computer sucks
01:41.42ckknightTuller: I'm hovering around a cool 50 fps with it open or closed
01:41.54Tullerckknight: are you expanding all options?
01:41.55ckknightmoving the frame itself doesn't run any lua scripts
01:42.06ckknightmmm... yea
01:42.25Tullerwell, I tested it around 3EST
01:42.36charonIVIadball: rumours of a parser bug and such
01:42.56Tullermaybe its a crazy PTR issue, I'll check on the realm
01:42.58charon(i haven't had any problems though)
01:43.03aestilckknight: i see about a 20fps drop when i expand options and drag rock config around.
01:43.14aestiltuller: similar?
01:43.22Tulleryes
01:43.27IVIadballcharon: should I downgrade my omen to a few weeks back?
01:43.29Tullerthat's exactly my result :)
01:43.30ckknightweird
01:43.46ckknightseeing as no lua scripts are run when dragging (except start and finish drag)
01:43.52ckknightthus: I blame Blizz
01:44.08Tullerwell, it works fine if you unexpand parrot
01:44.09Shadowed|considering that nobody else really gets the issue, it's your faultt
01:44.11aestilafter i entered that script.
01:44.16charonIVIadball: it's not Threat-1.0's fault apparently.... but i'm just repeating what i read here a few pages up :)
01:44.31aestilthe GC script, it doesn't drop as much, only 10fps
01:44.34ckknightI figured out the Threat-1.0 issue
01:44.40ckknightit's _actually_ a horrible Ace2 issue!
01:44.44ckknight;-)
01:44.47Nosraclol
01:45.01ckknightmanually embeded mixins don't update when the mixin itself updates
01:45.03aestiltuller: /script CreateFrame("Frame"):SetScript("OnUpdate", function(this, elapsed) if elapsed < 1/30 then collectgarbage('step') end end)
01:45.44ckknightI understand it
01:45.55IVIadballcharon: ok thanks
01:45.56Nosracrofl
01:46.03NosracOops =) wrong frame ;-)
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01:46.10ckknightit runs collectgarbage('step') if FPS >= 30
01:46.12nymbiaanyone who writes addons should understand it ;)
01:46.32NosracI don't write addons and I do!
01:46.33Wobworkis your name 4-Iadball, or I-6-adball?
01:46.34Wobworkoh
01:46.36WobworkMadball
01:46.45Wobworknm me =P
01:46.55WobworkI'm obviously just l22t
01:47.13NosracI think those are supposed to be 3s actually, Wobwork =)
01:47.16Nosrac;-P
01:47.23Tullerstill noticable
01:47.36Nosraclol
01:47.45Shirikaestil: If you're talking about GCTweak, it's a bit more complex than that
01:48.01WobworkNosrac: I'm not l33t enough =P
01:48.12NosracWobwork: it all makes sense now!
01:48.49ckknightShirik: actually, if you condense GCTweak down to one line, that's what you get
01:48.52ckknightit removes all options, though
01:48.59charonbedtime. goodnight
01:49.02Shirikwell yeah, but GCTweak considers your combat status, etc., too
01:49.08Shirikbut yes, that is the basics of it
01:49.23Tullerhrm, lets see if I get it with 20k bbars
01:50.08nogudniknymbia: I added a feature request for Stitch to the official forum thread. If you get a chance in the next couple of days, can you take a peek and let me know if it is possible/likely?
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01:50.31Synbiosanyone have first hand experience with sacredbuff?
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01:52.22ckknightbah
01:52.32IVIadballoh fyi I just got it working
01:52.35Tulleroh good, shared media is a libstub thing
01:52.37ckknightwith Ace2, there's absolutely no way to tell what tables a mixin has embedded into
01:52.42IVIadballdowngraded to the older version of omen with threat 1.0
01:53.54NosracIVIadball: You might need an older parser, as well
01:54.50IVIadballcan you show me where to go to get it?
01:54.56NosracSure
01:56.05Nosrachttp://files.wowace.com/Parser-3.0/
01:56.06ckknightjust wait 5 minutes
01:56.09ckknightI'm working on the parser issue
01:56.15NosracWell, there we go ;-)
01:56.53nymbianogudnik: i currently don't even have wow installed, but you have my blessing on implementing that
01:56.59IVIadballok cool ckknight
01:57.59nogudnikCool, thanks nymbia. Now ... to use my powers of persuassion to get a SVN account.
01:58.15Nosraclol
01:58.31ulicjust follow the directions on the website and Kaelten will hook you up.
01:58.58Nosracnogudnik: If you have it implemented already, I'm sure you can easily get one of these people to do it for you (for the time being)
01:59.02CIA-2203ckknight * r49174 10LibParser-4.0/LibParser-4.0.lua: LibParser-4.0 - add a massive hack to overcome a hurdle posed by AceOO-2.0.
01:59.08ckknightthat should do it.
01:59.30nogudnikOh I did a while back and am just waiting for it to come through. Figured I'd give it a bit more time before I started making noise again.
02:00.06nogudnikNosrac: good idea, I'll pastey it up and see whos interested.
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02:06.58CIA-2203ckknight * r49176 10LibRockLocale-1.0/LibRockLocale-1.0.lua: LibRockLocale-1.0 - make error messages better.
02:07.50KarlThePaganwell, mostly working now!
02:08.01ckknightyay
02:09.25nogudnikSo, I'm hoping some kind soul with an SVN account can take a minute and add this: http://ace.pastey.net/74000 change to the trunk version of the Stitch library.
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02:15.49Rogueah, I see the forums are now accomodating things better
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02:21.03KarlThePaganfixed 99% of my problems -> http://www.nightelfcollective.com/forums/album_page.php?pic_id=2137
02:21.07KarlThePagan(enable auto-deps)
02:23.31CIA-2203ckknight * r49177 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0 - typo, missing )
02:24.11CIA-2203ckknight * r49178 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0 - fix another bug with compat dealy
02:24.40KarlThePaganyea... gotta shutdown eclipse before I complain about my WoW being slow ;)
02:24.56Arrowmasteris libtourist-3.0 just tourist using libstub?
02:25.12KarlThePaganoverall I think I like the new config stuff better
02:25.34KarlThePaganI like it more for fubar, carto... not sure about the pitbull menus yet
02:25.39KarlThePagani can still find everything tho ;)
02:26.41ckknightArrowmaster: it uses Rock, since it uses some Rock features
02:27.03Arcaiathe hulkhoganvstherock addon isnt working -cry-
02:27.45Speeddymon_~seen pastamancer
02:27.47purlpastamancer is currently on #wowi-lounge (11d 2h 55m 3s) #wowace (11d 2h 55m 3s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 3h 3m 38s, last said: 'well, the new combat events are coming'.
02:27.57Speeddymon_~ping pastamancer
02:27.58purlpong pastamancer
02:28.10ckknightlol, Arcaia
02:28.13ckknightwait 5 minutes
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02:32.28Speeddymonanyone know that the trac isnt working?  i cant even view known issues with WAU2
02:33.09Speeddymonand does anyone know how to view the changelog with WAU2?
02:33.54KarlThePaganSpeeddymon, wau2 is on hiatus i'm afraid ;(
02:34.46KarlThePagani'm terrible, so I'll see what I can do to fix it's issues, I think the backup that wiped the forum rolled back WAU2 to an earlier version
02:34.47Speeddymonhmm didnt notice the topic had changed.. previous topic had said to upgrade to 2.0....
02:35.22KarlThePaganyea WAU1.9 is doing very well currently, sorry for the confusion
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02:35.31NebucadnezarKarlThePagan - Are you saying we shouldn't be using WAU2?
02:35.43Ashy^I need help, please.
02:35.53Ashy^When I mouse over a spell, there's this box that pops up telling me about the spell.
02:35.53Speeddymoni havent run into any issues, really, but just the lack of being able to view the changelogs and the lack of being able to update all checked addons kinda killed it for me
02:36.01Ashy^And it's popping up in the center of my screen.  It needs to move *now*.
02:36.08Ashy^Please tell me how. :)
02:36.19SpeeddymonAshy^: can you please provide a screenshow?
02:36.22Speeddymonscreenshot*
02:36.28JoshBorkeAshy^: disable half your mods
02:36.31KarlThePaganNebucadnezar, i'm not certain that noone else is updating, but I suspect that's the way of things atm
02:36.52KarlThePaganit is not using the correct version information last I checked
02:36.59CIA-2203ckknight * r49179 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:
02:36.59CIA-22LibRockConfig-1.0 - allow `1` to be an acceptable boolean value.
02:36.59CIA-22- have a standard config group, which allows the user to show/hide the minimap button. Other core Rock libraries can add their own options to it as well.
02:37.01Roguehmm.  I am using WAU  1.9.44.654
02:37.13CIA-2203ckknight * r49180 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add options to the group LibRockConfig-1.0 already created instead of creating a new one.
02:37.26Ashy^JoshBorke:  What are you, a GM?
02:37.39JoshBorkeAshy^: no, it's a valid way to figure out what mod it is
02:37.44JoshBorkei suspect it's DrDamage
02:37.58Ashy^That's a good point.  I'll go beat drdamage with a stick.
02:38.09GagorianExcept that DrDamage doesn't alter where it displays.. Just expands the tooltip?
02:38.14ckknightAshy^: yea, if you disable half, then you can tell if it's in that half or not, keep disabling half till the issue is found, it's O(lg n) instead of O(n) which most people do
02:38.33ckknightokay, I'm gonna delete HulkHoganVsTheRock now.
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02:39.13ckknightmostly because it's in Rock itself now
02:39.13Ashy^Nope, disabled drdamage and it wasn't him.  uploading the ss.
02:39.17RogueI think I missed something
02:39.59CIA-2203ckknight * r49181 10HulkHoganVsTheRock/: HulkHoganVsTheRock - removing from SVN seeing as the option is in Rock now.
02:40.46RogueI wasn't here, but my intuition tells me it may have been a way to disable the rock icon
02:40.58JoshBorkelol, a mod to just hide the minimap
02:41.09Nosraclol
02:41.23JoshBorkes/map/map button/
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02:41.37Bejittbah my pet is using an out of date version of threatlib ;(
02:41.41Rogues/rock icon/minimap icon/
02:42.25JoshBorkeckknight: how are you going to handle the minimap icon?  is it saved?  is it only saved if you have rock disembedded?  is it only viewable if you have rock disembedded?
02:42.34ckknightJoshBorke: hax
02:42.55JoshBorke...
02:43.05Nebucadnezarckknight - Just upgraded/updated again and now I am getting LibTourist-3.0 error.  Expected clost near AceLibrary.
02:43.12ckknightNebucadnezar: yea, just fixed that
02:43.13RogueThis situation has given me the thought:  Couldn't WAU only show addon's tag'd as release.  While still allowing what it does now.     defaulting to release tags of course.   *ponders*
02:43.28Ashy^http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/agdjenn/wow/WoWScrnShot_091707_213642.jpg
02:43.41JoshBorkeit's drdamage
02:43.47MikkRogue: that's in the works, but it's not just a wau thing -- the backend kinda needs to support it too
02:43.48JoshBorkeand something else
02:43.51JoshBorkemaybe cowtip?
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02:44.04NosracProbably
02:44.04CIA-2203candykiss * r49182 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/ (. LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua): LibSharedMedia-2.0: zhCN client fonts updated
02:44.08RogueMikk: Aye, I get what your saying.
02:44.21RogueI was unsure of whether or not to mention it, as it seemed obvious to me.
02:44.42Ashy^k, 'cause I told tinytip to anchor in the top left and that didn't move a darn thing.
02:44.54Ashy^maybe I just need cowtip instead of tinytip?
02:45.05JoshBorketinytip doesn't move my tooltip to there
02:45.08Navrasi just started with CowTip today
02:45.11RogueAshy^: I like it,  worth a try.
02:45.14Navrasi like it over TinyTip
02:45.21Ashy^i'll go see if cowtip is installed or not. whee.
02:45.26Navrastiny tip CAN move your tooltip wherever you want
02:45.32GagorianJoshBorke: DrDamage adds only the information
02:45.37Ashy^Yes, and I told it to, but it didn't move.
02:45.39GagorianIt doesn't do anything with tooltip placement
02:46.05JoshBorkeGagorian: aye, i know
02:46.10CIA-2203ckknight * r49183 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - commas are the devil's playthings.
02:46.18ckknightNavras: glad you like it
02:46.23Ashy^Nope, I don't have cowtip.
02:46.32NosracTinytip?
02:46.35Navrasalso just got Parrot today, too
02:46.40Ashy^When you tell tinytip to move the bar, does it need to reloadui to actually do it?
02:46.42Navrasliking that one too :)
02:46.44JoshBorkeAshy^: try disabling tinytip
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02:47.10RoguePersonally, I just try to have everything ck made.
02:47.20sb<PROTECTED>
02:47.41Roguenot exclusively... but you know, there.
02:47.56Navrasckknight, are you planning on adding a way to filter certain skill cooldowns out of the notification section?
02:48.03ckknighthrm...
02:48.08ckknightthat could theoretically be an option
02:48.13Navrasor is that the suppressions thing?
02:48.16ckknightNavras: put it on jira
02:48.21ckknightwell, it could be a suppression
02:48.25ckknightyea, just use that.
02:48.29RogueSpeaking of parrot, I had trouble finding where to change where my crits show up.
02:48.37RogueI don't know if it's just me not finding it, or a bug. hmm.
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02:48.45ckknightRogue: well, crits show as "sticky"
02:48.49ckknightyou can't change their location
02:49.04Navrashmm, just tried suppressions, it did error 143: attempt to index global 'opt' (nil)
02:49.13RogueYou can change what scroll area they show up in no?
02:49.19Navrasjust from clicking on add suppression
02:49.41RogueI'm prabably just tried. I'll stop talking
02:50.05ckknightlame
02:50.12ckknightgive a filename, Navras
02:50.16ckknightyour half-error is pointless
02:51.01CIA-2203ckknight * r49184 10Parrot/Code/Suppressions.lua: Parrot_Suppressions - fix global 'opt' bug
02:51.10Navrashm, gimme a sec to reload, the Add button is greyed out now
02:51.20ckknighteither way, fixed
02:51.29Navraskk ty
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02:56.07mocoyhi
02:56.27JoshBorkehi
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02:57.31ckknightguess not
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02:58.19Navrasnow i get a LibConfig error, lol
02:58.38JoshBorkeNavras: pwned
02:58.51Navrasmeh, on startup :)
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02:59.22ckknightwhich one?
02:59.27ckknightis it the one about the evil commas?
02:59.35Navrassec, exited to reinstall addons
02:59.42ckknightSeerah_: thanks for being kind and helpful on the forums
03:00.10Seerah_heh, I just got home and found 100000000 more stupid, annoying posts
03:00.29Seerah_maybe if we ignore them, they'll go away....
03:00.31RogueI saw that slam
03:00.31Seerah_shhhh!!!!
03:00.33Roguenice huh
03:00.35Arcaiackknight - updated rockconfig etc.. now fubar is broken!
03:00.43ckknighthow's it broken?
03:00.48Arcaianot showing up or loading
03:00.58Navrasyeah same, sec on the error
03:00.59ckknightany errors?
03:01.15Arcaialet me check
03:01.45Seerah_here, ck, I know what you'll say ;)
03:01.50Seerah_"put it on jira for me"
03:02.12Navras2007/09/17 22:00:26-1-x1]: LibRockConfig-1.0\LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:28: unexpected symbol near 'local'
03:02.12NavrasLibRock-1.0--50820 (LibRock-1.0):1314: in function <Interface\AddOns\LibRock-1.0\LibRock-1.0.lua:1289>
03:02.12NavrasLibRock-1.0--50820 (LibRock-1.0):1560: in function <Interface\AddOns\LibRock-1.0\LibRock-1.0.lua:1549>
03:02.12NavrasLibRock-1.0--50820 (LibRock-1.0):2557: in function <Interface\AddOns\LibRock-1.0\LibRock-1.0.lua:2423>
03:02.12NavrasLibRock-1.0--50820 (LibRock-1.0):2581: in function <Interface\AddOns\LibRock-1.0\LibRock-1.0.lua:2576>
03:02.13Navras<PROTECTED>
03:02.17JoshBorke...
03:02.20ckknightbad.
03:02.22Navrashmm, bad formatting on that
03:02.26ckknightNavras: and I already fixed that.
03:02.26Navrassorry, lol
03:02.28JoshBorke~lart Navras
03:02.28purlacting on orders from an unspecified client drags Navras into court suing for $200 million
03:02.42Navrasi just updated like 15 sec ago
03:02.44Navrashmm
03:02.44ArcaiaInterface\Addons\LibRockConfig-1.0\LibRockConfig-1.01.lua:28: unexpected symbol near 'local'
03:02.52Arcaiasame
03:03.00ckknightyou're out of date.
03:03.03Seerah_it takes about 20ish mins to build a new zip for you
03:03.28Arcaia20 mins to update the updater
03:03.36Arcaiawtb new updater ;P
03:03.38Navrasahh, kk
03:03.41JoshBorkeyou could pull from svn
03:03.43ckknightyou could open the file and remove the comma
03:03.44Navraswill wait then :)
03:04.19Arcaiawill i get my name in the Thank list?
03:04.32Navraslol
03:04.37ArcaiaThank you Arcaia for hacking your client side lua file and fixing an error.
03:05.41genetik-ckknight: after your latest update, Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua:1285: attempt to index a nil value
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03:06.06ckknightweird.
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03:07.24RogueI suddenly have a desire to know how many people signed up for the forums/jira because of what you did ck?
03:07.50Seerah_:)
03:07.55ckknightlol, hey, if it works, it works
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03:08.02mocoyhi again sorry
03:08.32ArcaiaI signed up to the forums to flame.
03:08.38ArcaiaBut it's gotten better since
03:08.43Arcaiaso I'm content for now
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03:08.54mocoyjust wondered if anyone here knew a good room for my son he is an avid wower (i dont play)
03:09.01Seerah_yeah, flames don't belong on these forums
03:09.13Antiarcmocoy: What sort of info are you looking for?
03:09.14Seerah_you mean on irc, mocoy?
03:09.24AntiarcThis is mostly oriented around addon development
03:09.33mocoyyeah a good irc room
03:09.43mocoyyeah i saw the web site
03:09.50mocoysaw it was dev
03:10.04Seerah_umm... how about wowwiki?
03:10.15Seerah_wowi gets dev convos too
03:10.35Seerah_I don't think I've gone on the wowwiki irc channel before, though
03:10.59dylanm_Cairenn's on there. Can't be that bad
03:10.59RogueI'm there, I just don't look at it much. lol
03:11.31mocoyhe is 15 and not really a comp[uter geek as i am but is really into gaming not sure what he would find to be useful
03:11.49Cairennfor general wow info, the wiki room is probably good
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03:11.59mocoycool thanks
03:12.02Cairenn#wowwiki
03:12.07Cairennsame network as this
03:12.13ArcaiaLibRockConfig-1.0: Bad return from Function "get" `Rock->Show minimap icon'. expected "Boolean" ,"String" got "Number".
03:12.35mocoylol i know it is but you come up first on the channel list so i came here'
03:12.36mocoylol
03:12.38mocoylaters
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03:13.07ckknightArcaia: wtf, that should work
03:13.28Arcaiaiunno
03:13.31kaidenhow are things going tonight?
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03:13.33Arcaiamy WoW client > you?
03:13.38Arcaiakaiden: Bad
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03:13.42CIA-2203avai * r49185 10KingOfTheJungle/ (KingOfTheJungle.toc Locales/KingOfTheJungle-zhTW.lua):
03:13.42CIA-22KingOfTheJungle :
03:13.42CIA-22- Added Chinese Traditional localization
03:13.48kaidenbad? how so?
03:14.01RogueShadowtrillian. bleh. gives me trouble.
03:14.15NavrasPidgin ftw
03:14.29RogueShadowAnywho, I estimate about 100 people signed up since the updates.
03:14.41RogueShadowYeah, I am thinking of going Pidgin
03:14.45Arcaiakaiden: rock lib = bug spree
03:14.48KemayoFinch ftw.
03:15.07Kemayockknight: I just updated, and: FuBar_LocationFu-2.046424\LocationFu.lua:205: attempt to call method 'GetFactionColor' (a nil value)
03:15.10RogueShadowActually, I think 100 todaY
03:15.25Kemayockknight: Also, FuBar_LocationFu-2.046424\LocationFu.lua:215: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'r' (a nil value)
03:15.43Navrassame ckk
03:15.49CIA-2203ckknight * r49186 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - make error messages more descriptive.
03:16.02Arcaiarofl.
03:16.04RaydenUniso i can't figure out how to make arkinventory display except when i'm at the mail (or bank i assume)
03:16.10RaydenUnithere are no options
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03:16.17ckknightokay, Arcaia, update to that and tell me the error :-P
03:16.46Arcaiawill do.
03:16.53RogueShadowckknight: Last time you said that to me, I didn't know I had to wait 20 mins.
03:16.53Arcaiaas soon as it gets to wua2
03:17.02Kemayockknight: Oh, and: Parrot-r46050\Code\TriggerConditions.lua:113: attempt to call method 'GetCurrentParserEvent' (a nil value)
03:17.19CIA-2203ckknight * r49187 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0 - fix error with compat mode.
03:18.15RogueShadowNavras: How long you been using pidgin?
03:18.20Navrashmmm
03:18.25Navrassince gaim 1.5 or so?
03:18.33Navrasso couple of years or so now
03:18.55Arcaiawhat is parrot?
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03:19.00RogueShadowPretty stable you'd say? featurefull?
03:19.02Navrasalternative to SCT
03:19.09Navrasyeah Pidgin is quite stable
03:19.16Arcaiaahh.. i use MSBT
03:19.17RogueShadowahem, great alternative!
03:19.17ckknightKemayo: fix incoming
03:19.18kaideni had never heard of Pidgin, it's got a sexy web design
03:19.20CIA-2203ckknight * r49188 10LibParser-4.0/LibParser-4.0.lua: LibParser-4.0 - add compatibility for :GetCurrentParserEvent()
03:19.20kaidenso it must be good
03:19.21kaiden;P
03:19.29RogueShadowMSBT is good too.
03:19.30NavrasPidgin is what GAim was
03:19.35NavrasAIM forced them to change the name
03:19.35ckknightArcaia: Parrot's like MSBT moreso than SCT
03:19.36RaydenUnianyone here use ArkInventory?
03:19.45Seerah_aye
03:19.54Arcaiais there any real reason to switch to parrot from msbt?
03:20.06Jagobahit's by ckknight!
03:20.10Seerah_psh
03:20.15Arcaiathats a reason not too
03:20.17Jagobahhaha
03:20.18RaydenUniSeerah_ you use AI?
03:20.18Arcaiallol
03:20.24Seerah_yes, raydenuni
03:20.40RogueShadowMSBT is good, I wouldn't force a switch.
03:20.42NosracArcaia: It's supported by the Ace(And now Rock) community
03:20.44CIA-2203ckknight * r49189 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - internally add support for Rock mixins (instead of just Ace2 mixins)
03:20.46RogueShadowIt's a clone after all.
03:20.54RaydenUniSeerah_ how do i get it to display?
03:20.59ckknighttechnically there is no distinct Rock community, Nosrac
03:21.00NosracArcaia: It also uses Tags
03:21.09Arcaiatags?
03:21.14ckknighttag-based strings
03:21.21ckknightlike MSBT, only nicer
03:21.23ckknightalso, more animations
03:21.25ckknightand icons!
03:21.26Arcaia>.>
03:21.42ckknight*shrug*
03:21.42Seerah_hmm RaydenUni?
03:21.43Arcaiais it as much a pain to set up as msbt?
03:21.54RogueShadowmsbt's a pain?
03:21.57Seerah_sharedmedia support
03:21.59ckknightArcaia: not sure
03:22.05Seerah_msbt is not a pain
03:22.16Arcaiai know
03:22.17Fisker-ckknight you "rock"
03:22.18RogueShadow:( I liked msbt's config window, It's practically a main feature.
03:22.18Fisker-eHEHEEHEH
03:22.19RaydenUniSeerah_ i found an option window to auto open on bank, trade, mailbox etc, but nothing for when i open my bag
03:22.22Arcaiaits quite simple ;P
03:22.23ckknightFisker-: :-P
03:22.33RaydenUniSeerah_  is there a way i can force it to open?
03:22.43Seerah_RaydenUni: it doesn't show when you open your bags?  It's supposed to replace them.
03:22.47Arcaia!!! WAU2 IS SO SLOW.
03:22.54Seerah_RaydenUni: oh! make sure you have it checked to replace them :P
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03:23.25RaydenUnioh, because i'm using onebag i bet
03:23.54RaydenUniheh
03:24.16Seerah_silly RaydenUni - don't use two bag mods at the same time
03:24.20RaydenUniSeerah_ what are motes defined as? Primals are considered mining and i thought motes would be reagents
03:24.27RaydenUnii've been using onebag and thought i'd try AI
03:24.43RaydenUnii like being able to define sorting rules
03:24.53RaydenUniis there a way to ask what an item is considered in AI?
03:25.03Seerah_do you have a mote in your inventory?  Go to edit mode, right-click a mote and see what it is in PT
03:25.11RaydenUniok
03:25.19Seerah_you can sort by PT categories.  Check out the wiki if you haven't yet (and the forum thread)
03:25.20Navrasckknight - Parrot-r49184\Code\Suppressions.lua:84: attempt to index field 'suppressions_opt' (a nil value)
03:25.22Seerah_good info there
03:25.25RaydenUniPT?
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03:25.30Seerah_PeriodicTable
03:25.34Seerah_(library)
03:25.35Navrasonce created, remove doesn't. .remove the suppression
03:26.01Arcaiack "Framework Free/Other"
03:26.03Arcaiarofl
03:26.05RaydenUnioh a seperate mod
03:26.07Arcaiathey've disowned you!
03:26.25Seerah_you probably already have it, raydenuni
03:26.43CIA-2203ckknight * r49190 10Parrot/Code/Suppressions.lua: Parrot_Suppressions - bugfix
03:26.50RaydenUniAI seems to be working so i bet i do
03:27.07Seerah_yeah, comes with AI
03:27.13RaydenUnioh, motes are skill > alchemy
03:27.24RaydenUnioh cool, i can tell it what to be part of
03:27.55Seerah_http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ArkInventory
03:28.19KemayoArcaia: I told you to use my updater. :P
03:28.34Arcaiayour updater?
03:29.07Seerah_and here's the thread, RaydenUni: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6775.0
03:29.15Arcaiaim blind, please refresh meh
03:30.10RaydenUniwhy on earth are Large Prismatic Shards considering blacksmithing and not enchanting?
03:30.13RogueShadowo, how do you play wow?
03:30.31Arcaiahttp://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_091707_201420.jpg
03:30.33Arcaialike that >.>
03:30.58Seerah_RaydenUni: cause blizzard's dumb :P
03:31.02Seerah_or is that from PT?
03:31.07RogueShadowah, big buttons
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03:32.40Arcaiackknight: LibRockConfig-1.0: Bad return from Function "get" `Rock->Show minimap icon'. expected "Boolean" ,"String" got "Number".
03:32.52ckknightstill not updated yet
03:32.56RaydenUnii love this mod
03:33.07RaydenUniit promotes my near excessive compulsive desire to organize
03:33.20Arcaiait just updated on Wau2
03:33.29ckknightwell, it's probably not up to date on the server
03:33.32Arcaiaand kemayo didnt tell me where to get his updator thing
03:33.45Arcaiaupdater
03:34.01RaydenUniArcaia i like that interface
03:34.20RaydenUniyours?
03:34.26Arcaiayeps
03:34.49RaydenUniwhat do you use to make the "window" around your frames and buttons?
03:35.00ArcaiaeePanels2
03:35.21Arcaiabt3 / cycircled / volskin for the button skins
03:35.26RaydenUniSeerah_ can you give names to different bags?
03:35.36Seerah_no, not with AI
03:35.48RaydenUnitoo bad
03:35.55RaydenUnii'd like to call my quest item bag "quest items"
03:36.09yssarilckknight: [2007/09/17 22:34:58-1289-x1]: FuBar-49053\FuBar.lua:1285: attempt to index a nil value
03:36.10Seerah_I always felt I knew what I had in each section, though
03:36.16KemayoArcaia: http://wowacepy.googlecode.com
03:36.25RaydenUniArcaia its simply for displaying boxes on the screen?
03:36.26yssarilckknight: then locationfu goes nuts with errors
03:36.35ckknightany debugstack?
03:37.10yssarilckknight: nope nothing but the locfu error is [2007/09/17 22:34:58-1289-x84]: FuBar_LocationFu-2.046424\LocationFu.lua:210: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'r' (a nil value)
03:37.21Arcaiapython >.>
03:37.29ckknightI need a debugstack
03:37.30RaydenUniSeerah_ any way to reorder the bags in AI?
03:37.33yssarilthose are the entire messages bugsack gives me
03:37.36ckknightor some way to reproduce
03:37.53Arcaiayes raydenuni - eepanels just puts boxes/textures
03:38.04Arcaiasee the graphic behind my chat box/bags and such
03:38.06Arcaiait can also do that
03:38.07yssarilhave it currently updated to the last versions
03:38.11Seerah_RaydenUni: when in edit mode, see the numbers you click to assign things to them?  You can say "move to bar 8" etc
03:38.37yssarilit broke somewhere between 8:30pm and 10pm
03:38.42RaydenUniSeerah_ k i'll play with it, but i don't think it does what i'm thinking
03:39.13yssarilckknight: how would i go about getting a debugstack?
03:39.22RaydenUniyeah i want to swap entire bags
03:39.23RaydenUnioh well
03:39.26ckknighthonestly, I dunno without hacking the code itself
03:39.26yssarilckknight: <--- already using bugsack
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03:40.25Arcaiapython for windows better not be buggy.
03:41.01yssarilckknight: i think it has something to do with the tourist updates
03:41.10ckknightquite possible
03:41.11Seerah_RaydenUni: what do you mean swap entire bags?
03:41.21ckknightmake sure you're on the latest version possible
03:41.54Arcaiaguess ill have to brb
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03:42.18AntiarcSo, a guy with dyslexia walks into a bra.
03:42.21RaydenUniSeerah_ i want to make #5 -> #4 and #4 -> #5
03:42.28RaydenUnii have my bags sorted how i want, but i want to change their order
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03:42.42Seerah_Then move everything from bar 5 to bar 4 and from 4 to 5.  Just like how I told you :P
03:42.53RaydenUniyeah, its just more work
03:42.54Seerah_click the number for the bar and you'll see the option
03:43.05Seerah_nah
03:43.08Seerah_it's pie
03:43.18RaydenUnibut i have to move every category
03:43.26RaydenUniif i have one with 5 categories that's 5 selections
03:43.42yssarilckknight: btw this is what happend when u broke fubar :P http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/6659/minimapgonebadbi6.jpg
03:44.02ckknightlol, yea
03:44.10ckknightcommas ftl
03:44.14Navraslmao
03:44.29Seerah_RaydenUni: you'll probably only do it once ;)
03:44.34RaydenUniyeah
03:45.23KeiasYou deserve those icons for using that ugly corner map!
03:45.32Nefarionlol
03:45.36yssarilckknight: as of 4 min i have the latest addons and versions (running compleatly unembedded)
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03:45.53yssarilKeias: i like my corner map :)
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03:48.49Nefarionuh, is LibFuBarPlugin expected anytime soon?
03:48.51CIA-2203ckknight * r49191 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - add some checks
03:48.59ckknightNefarion: yea, I'm working on it
03:48.59RaydenUniits very annoying that sometimes wow runs at 30fps just fine, and then sometimes it struggles to do 10fps
03:49.03Nefarionkk
03:49.07AntiarcSo, Jesus, Dumbledore, and Aeris walk into a bar.
03:49.09AntiarcThe bartender dies.
03:49.11ckknightNefarion: my hope is to finish it tonight, but we'll see
03:49.17Nefarionawesome
03:49.20ckknightlol, Antiarc
03:49.29Antiarc> A guy walks into a bar. There is a magical chest here. Exits are east, south.
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03:49.30Antiarc>
03:49.33Arcaiayea
03:49.37Arcaiapython thinger
03:49.43Arcaiaisnt working for some reason
03:49.43RaydenUni> Open Chest
03:49.50yssarilckknight: Tourist:GetFactionColor(zoneText) seams to be causeing problems
03:50.09ckknightyssaril: update FuBar to latest.
03:50.15ckknightalso, which error came first?
03:50.41RaydenUnithe chicken or the bag?
03:50.44yssarilthe fubar one now went away after a reload (no updating) so must be independant of each other
03:50.51ckknightbah.
03:50.58yssarilckknight: :P
03:51.00ArcaiaKemayo: how does this wowacepy thing work?
03:52.40yssarilckknight: how is fubarplugin coming along?
03:52.54KemayoArcaia: http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy/wiki/Usage
03:52.55ckknightyssaril: working on other stuff right now
03:52.59CIA-2203ckknight * r49192 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files):
03:52.59CIA-22Threat-1.0 - optionally support LibParser-4.0 if it is available.
03:52.59CIA-22(Note: X-Embeds still states Parser-3.0, since the other libraries are Ace2-ish)
03:53.06Kemayo(That was sort of the smart-alec response, admittedly.)
03:55.11MajorPaynekemayo
03:55.12Arcaiawell i get that it auto updates
03:55.21MajorPaynedoes wowacepy unpackage correctly?
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03:55.27MajorPayneWUU dropped the ball on that
03:55.30MajorPaynebig time
03:55.30Arcaiabut does it need to be in the wow\interface\addons\ folder?
03:55.55KemayoMajorPayne: If you ask it to, it does exactly what WAU does.  It doesn't by default, though.
03:56.35KemayoArcaia: Nope.
03:56.40MajorPayneso...
03:56.45MajorPayneshould I use wowacepy ?
03:56.51Arcaiadoes it have any way of showing that its actually working?
03:56.57MajorPayneI used MAU but ... that didnt unpack addons hardly at all
03:57.10MajorPayneand WUU fucked everything up for me
03:57.12KemayoMajorPayne: If you want to.
03:57.15MajorPayneand would update to old revisions
03:57.33MajorPayneI'm going to see what works better
03:57.39MajorPaynea shell script + SVN
03:57.43MajorPayneor wowacepy
03:57.53MajorPaynethanks to ckknight
03:58.09KemayoArcaia: If it's working it'll print some messages out.  They'll be along the lines of "checking files.wowace.com for updated addons", then listing the ones it's upgrading.  If not, it'll probably print python error messages.
03:58.25Arcaiawell i dont actually see anything
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03:58.30Arcaiait shows up like in ninja fashion.
03:58.48Arcaialike a cmd prompt
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03:59.23yssarilckknight: does locationfu have to update every second?
03:59.33Nefarionum, is cart still using acelocale? just got an error that "Enabled" doesn't exist and it froze on me.
03:59.59KemayoArcaia: If it's doing things that quickly, it's presumably having troubles.  Try opening a command prompt and running it in there, so it'll stick around long enough to say what's happening.
04:01.41Nebucadnezar..
04:01.45Arcaiai dont use c:/program files/world of warcraft ;P
04:01.49Arcaiathats the error ;P
04:02.05RogueShadowoo
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04:02.51RogueShadowwowace.py --wowdir=Whatever your dir is?
04:03.04KemayoRogueShadow beat me to it.
04:03.24KemayoIf you decide you want to keep using it, you'll probably want to make a .bat file with that stuff in it.
04:03.29RogueShadow:) curiosity led me there, I remember what I saw.
04:03.58Arcaiaor i can edit the file
04:04.01Arcaiaand change it there
04:04.02RogueShadowThat can be dangerous :(  thanfully nasty links are rare here.
04:05.17KemayoArcaia: You certainly can.
04:05.18Arcaiaeditting it can be dangerous?
04:05.30ArcaiaI've programmed before, just not lua... never lua.
04:05.58RogueShadowoh no...
04:06.02RogueShadowediting is fun.
04:06.02Arcaiabut luckily
04:06.06Arcaiait was like the first line
04:06.10Arcaiaand didnt require delving.
04:06.22KemayoHuh, I'd even forgotten that I stuck that handy variable at the top.
04:07.30KemayoYou must understand that for some strange reason all the defaults are set to exactly how I want it to work.  I rarely have to remember configuration details.
04:07.32Arcaiackknight -- LibRockConfig-1.0: Bad return from function "get" for `Rock->Show minimap icon'. Expected "boolean", "string", got "number".
04:07.54Arcaiasame error
04:07.58Arcaiadefinately updated
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04:09.42Arcaialets see if this works
04:10.01Arcaia-copied alll the regular rock libs into the cowtip/pitbull lib folders-
04:10.16ArcaiaTADA
04:10.24Arcaiathat nees to be addressed. ;P
04:11.10aestilrock doesn't seem to be playing nice with disembedded libs yet.
04:12.01Kemayockknight: FuBar_LocationFu-2.046424\LocationFu.lua:215: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'r' (a nil value)
04:12.25Nefarionindeed aes  :(
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04:16.03Seerah_hmm... just ran WAU and logged in on Labrat (my testing alt) and still had 0 errors.  I'm probably lucky enough to not have something enabled, huh? ;)
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04:19.17Nefarionnoticed cartographer still lists ace2 and ace libs as opt dependancies. are these still required?
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04:25.33MajorPayneDid anyone recently update Pitbull and like..
04:25.47MajorPaynesee that pitbull was "on"... and "active"... but none of the unitframes were visible?
04:25.53MajorPaynebut were still... there?
04:26.02ckknightyou're missing the modules, then
04:26.11ckknightjust black boxes, right?
04:26.16MajorPayneexample: unitframe highlighting turned on but no unitframe is showing up
04:26.22MajorPaynebut you can still... "highlight" it?
04:26.25MajorPayneno
04:26.28MajorPayneinvisible
04:26.40MajorPaynelike imagine all unitframes being where you put them, configured and all
04:26.45MajorPaynebu just 0% opacity
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04:27.08ckknightI still think the modules aren't working
04:27.12ckknightdunno, though
04:27.24MajorPaynewell I haven't checked since it first occurred and I came in earlier
04:27.35MajorPayneI've been terribly hesistant to update now since that happened
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04:27.49MajorPaynewhatever the last commits were yesterday... er..
04:27.56MajorPayne9/16/07
04:28.08MajorPaynethose were the last latest known.. "working" revisions.
04:28.10yssarilnight guys see ya tomorrow :P
04:28.17CIA-2203batrick * r49193 10Spellcraft/: making Spellcraft dir
04:28.24MajorPaynewhatever i updated to, today, at 7 PM EST
04:28.31MajorPaynecompletely went wonky
04:28.49MajorPayneI think the primary "culprits" were FuBar, Pitbull and Prat
04:29.03MajorPayneat least , according to WUU, were the ones updated today (of any real weight)
04:29.28MajorPaynecould be WUU though like we discussed
04:29.36CIA-2203helium * r49194 10Elephant/Locale-zhTW.lua:
04:29.36CIA-22Elephant:
04:29.36CIA-22- updated zhTW localization
04:29.36CIA-22- FILTERS in GlobalStrings.lua (zhTW) means "a program to filter something", not "what to filter". Sorry for my poor english if you don't get it, i am not a native english speaker, haha.
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04:36.26CIA-2203treibh * r49195 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua localization_enUS.lua):
04:36.26CIA-22BigBrother:
04:36.26CIA-22- allow flaskcheck results to be whispered to the current target (/bb flaskcheck whisper)
04:36.50Kemayockknight: The LocationFu:215 thing would be Tourist:GetFactionColor(zoneText) returning nil.
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04:38.11Birdemanievening, havent been around in a while, ran updater for first time and it installed the rock libs....are there friendly versions of cartographer and some fubar addons that work with it now?
04:38.48MajorPayneso if I'm on a Mac...
04:38.58MajorPaynewhat's my WoW directory?
04:39.19MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
04:39.26KemayoI'd guess.
04:39.37KemayoI've never had a mac with WoW installed on it to check.
04:39.38durcynthat's the default path
04:39.49MajorPayneheh
04:39.56MajorPayneso not many Mac testers on it huh? heh
04:40.10MajorPaynedo I run this terminal?
04:40.13durcyni two box with a mac, does that count?
04:40.15Arcaiai win the world
04:40.19Arcaiado do do do doooo
04:40.34KemayoI know some people who use it on mac.  They don't tell me they have problems.  So...
04:40.35aestilfirst vashj kill.
04:40.45AntiarcCongrats :D
04:40.58KemayoMajorPayne: Yup.  Though it's possible that it'd work by double-clicking.  Like I said, I've never tested on a mac. :D
04:41.01Arcaiai solo'd illidan
04:41.02Arcaiayep.
04:41.03aestil2% 4% and 7% wipes.
04:41.16aestilwe kept orgasming when we got to phase 3.
04:41.31aestilthey would go too early over and over.
04:41.39KemayoMajorPayne: You'll probably need to launch terminal, go to the directory where you have the script, and type something like "python wowace.py"
04:41.42MajorPayneI think I need some kind of Python package installed
04:42.01KemayoMajorPayne: It errored?
04:42.05MajorPayneWTB Mac based addon updater
04:42.07MajorPayneyeah
04:42.15MajorPayneI don't have anything python installed
04:42.17ckknightKemayo: feel free to check Tourist's code, it's impossible for it to return nil.
04:42.23ckknightthus, someting else is funky
04:42.38KemayoMajorPayne: What's the exact error it gave?
04:43.09durcynMajorPayne: uh, MAU?
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04:43.48MajorPayneHave you tried MAU?
04:43.58Birdemanihttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8482.0 <having same issue with cart, and latest updates broke performancefu, and location fu
04:44.18ArcadianDelSolsup all
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04:45.24Arcaiackknight ~ finally everything is working superbly
04:45.38MajorPaynearcaia are you using cartographer?
04:45.43Kemayockknight: "/print AceLibrary("Tourist-2.0"):GetFactionColor("Ashenvale")" prints "()".
04:47.26ArcadianDelSolanyone got a mod that sends one "wowmail" to multiple characters? I've found two that do the opposite (multiple wowmails to one char), but nothing to build/use what would effectively be a custom mail group.
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04:48.38Kemayockknight: I agree that this is weird; I can't see why it would be happening from the code.
04:49.13ckknightKemayo: wtf
04:49.22ckknightomfg
04:49.23ckknightmy bad
04:49.31Nefarionlol
04:49.41CIA-2203batrick * r49196 10Spellcraft/ (29 files in 3 dirs): Spellcraft: uploading Spellcraft
04:49.52CIA-2203ckknight * r49197 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0 - fix horrible bug in compat layer.
04:50.02Paradoxanyone know an addon like moveanything, but better?
04:50.23MajorPayneKEmayo I don't think wowacepy works on Macs
04:50.35KemayoMajorPayne: Tell me the error messages.
04:50.41MajorPayneI changed the default dir to /applications/world of warcraft/
04:50.45MajorPayneand it says...
04:51.13MajorPayneApplications/World of Warcraft Greg$ ./wowace.py
04:51.15MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
04:51.16MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
04:51.21MajorPaynewith a / in front of applications
04:51.25CIA-2203ckknight * r49198 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer_LookNFeel - bugfix for DB weirdness.
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04:51.45ckknightMajorPayne: add quotes
04:51.56ckknight""
04:52.31MajorPayneah ok
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04:55.17MajorPayne./wowace.py
04:55.19MajorPayneTraceback (most recent call last):
04:55.20MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
04:55.21MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
04:55.23MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
04:55.24MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
04:55.26MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
04:55.27MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
04:55.29MajorPayneTypeError: basicConfig() takes no arguments (4 given)
04:55.30MajorPaynesorry if thats annoying
04:55.46MajorPaynethats what happens with the correct WoW dir
04:56.23Birdemaniso, since i havent been around, where can i read up on ROCK and anything associated with it? Does it have its own forum now?
04:56.26MajorPayneI think I'm going to take the plunge
04:56.34Birdemanier
04:56.37Birdemaninm, found it
04:56.39MajorPayneand just do what ckknight helped me figure out
04:56.57ckknight~rock
04:56.57purlwell, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight.  More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon shout it out, or what we're going to do to blow your hair to the back of the auditorium.
04:57.00ckknightBirdemani: ^--
04:57.18MajorPaynesuck it, purl
04:57.25MajorPayne~purl suck it
04:57.26purlACTION sucks it's lips
04:57.40MajorPayne~ S&M
04:57.42MajorPaynewoops
04:57.47MajorPayne~purl S&M
04:57.56MajorPaynepfft.
04:58.00MajorPayne~purl you're boring
04:58.21ckknightpurl sucks
04:58.22purlonly if you ask nicely and pay well.
04:58.44KemayoMajorPayne: Oh, right, MacOS has an old version of Python.  I recall that you should be okay if you put a # at the start of line 41.  (The logging.basicconfig one.)
05:01.52CIA-2203ckknight * r49199 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatKLHTMSupport.lua):
05:01.52CIA-22Threat-1.0 - use a generic event dispatch mechanism instead of directly calling AceEvent.
05:01.52CIA-22- add LibRockEvent-1.0 support.
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05:03.19Navrassylvanaar - you around?
05:03.53sylvanaaram
05:04.17Arrowmasteroh sylvanaar i worked a bit more on those patterns
05:04.24Birdemani<PROTECTED>
05:04.42stavmarBirdemani: same error for me
05:04.47ckknightBirdemani: update LibTourist-3.0
05:04.51ckknightyou too, stavmar
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05:04.52Birdemanik
05:04.56stavmarckknight: ok
05:05.03Navrassylvanaar - thewlyn's around if you wanted to chat with him
05:05.32sylvanaarah cool, ok
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05:06.25stavmarhorrible bug. lol ckknight
05:06.29Nefarionanyone else getting the error in AceLocale for cartographer's translation "Enabled" not existing? (just updated about 2 minutes ago).
05:06.34sylvanaarno patch again?
05:06.39sylvanaarrolling restarts
05:06.40ckknightNefarion: which module?
05:06.41stavmarso what are the major advantage for users with Rock?
05:06.47Nefarionit's on...umm
05:07.02ckknightstavmar: for users, streamlined configuration. There's also the whole it being faster and taking less memory thing as well
05:07.03Nefariongotta restart. my memory's shot.
05:07.21Nefarionthe game's completely freezing after the error though, but i'm not sure if it's related
05:07.28ckknightcould be, I dunno
05:07.37ckknightI gotta know the module, tough
05:07.37ckknightthough*
05:07.44stavmarvery cool, i like it so far, just a little getting used to, really lick ctrl click open menu on pitbull that opens to the correct section o fthe config menu, very cool
05:08.05ckknighthehe
05:08.54Arrowmastersylvanaar: i created my own little mini copy of urlcopy for testing those patterns using lua.exe http://ace.pastey.net/74001
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05:10.29Nefarionno module
05:10.44Nefarionthe error's from acelocale.lua, line 487
05:11.04Kemayockknight: For consistency, it'd be nice if PitBull's modules section was more like the "extra units" section.  The dropdown is hard to notice.
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05:11.37ckknighthrm, perhaps you're right
05:12.01Nefarionbut once it happens the game acts like it can't process anything, almost looking like an infinite loop. completely freezes and if i attempt to alt-tab i get a frozen screen with the windows tab-box on it and the start bar, and have to right-click>exit wow to do anything.
05:12.41ckknightNefarion: get a debugstack, there's a module that references it somewhere
05:12.54Nefarionwill do, one second
05:13.02Nefarionmy computer's painfully slow
05:13.25Kemayockknight: Oh, FuBar doesn't seem to be adjusting the minimap.
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05:15.57Neebler!a 1780
05:16.09Neebler-a 5v5 1780
05:16.20Neeblerargh what was that bots command prefix
05:16.58Cairenn~
05:17.53Neebler~help
05:18.06Neeblerhmm not purl
05:18.13Neebler-help
05:18.33Neebler~unlobotomy
05:18.35Nefarionthis is ugly. the game's freezing before i can check out the bugs.
05:19.11Nefariongive me a few, i'll manually remove the cart modules one-by-one till it fixes, then see if i can get the error again with just that module
05:20.49ckknight~~
05:20.49purlEvery moment in which I'm called upon is torture.
05:21.14aestilrock is definetly faster, and definetly uses less mana.
05:21.46ckknightlol, mana?
05:22.03GngskNecrathex, With a rating of 1780 your 5v5 points earned will be 732.
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05:22.34Gngskoops, that was meant to go to Neebler. blame nick completion
05:23.32Birdemani<PROTECTED>
05:23.38Birdemanistill got that after teh last DB fix
05:23.50CIA-2203ckknight * r49200 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - expand modules into its own group.
05:23.53aestilim tired.  long raid tonight.
05:24.00ckknightKemayo: ^---
05:24.00Birdemani"Cartographer_LookNFeel-2.0\\LookNFeel.lua:463: Usage: WorldMapFrame:SetScale(scale)\nCartographer_LookNFeel-2.0\\LookNFeel.lua:463: in function <...nterface\\AddOns\\Cartographer_LookNFeel\\LookNFeel.lua:459>\n<in C code>: in function `Show'\nCartographer-r49198\\Cartographer.lua:1047: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\Cartographer\\Cartographer.lua:1045>\n(tail call): ?:\nInterface\\FrameXML\\UIParent.lua:789: in function `Sh
05:24.01Birdemani["type"] = "error",
05:24.06Birdemanithat too
05:25.45CIA-2203ckknight * r49201 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua: Cartographer_LookNFeel - possibly fix some bugs.
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05:32.30Nefarionjust out of pure curiosity, do any of the newer rock libs like parser contain compat layers for their older ace counterpart?
05:34.23MajorPayneSharedMedia = old and busted
05:34.34MajorPayneLibSharedMedia-2.0 = new hotness?
05:34.53MajorPayne~purl time
05:34.53purl2007.09.18  5:34:53 GMT
05:35.03Nefarionlol
05:35.08MajorPayne~purl time EST
05:35.11durcynNefarion: libparser-4.0 has a compat layer
05:35.15durcynas does libtourist
05:35.16ckknightNefarion: LibTourist-3.0
05:35.20ckknightNefarion: I might add more
05:35.27ckknightdepends on the situation, honestly
05:35.50Kaydeethreenew PTR patch! latest patch: 7272 (no interface changes). diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints
05:37.18ckknightso the diff is pointless :-P
05:37.22ckknightwell, blank
05:38.36aestili can get rid of tourist now :) already got rid of parser.
05:38.40ckknightthanks for diffs, btw, Kaydeethree
05:38.51Kaydeethreelol, no prob
05:39.18CIA-2203sinaloit * r49202 10ArcHUD2/ (. ArcHUD2.toc embeds.xml):
05:39.18CIA-22ArcHUD2:
05:39.18CIA-22- moved libs to embeds.xml
05:39.18CIA-22- corrected X-Embeds and OptionalDeps, its Metrognome not MetrognomeLib
05:39.30MajorPayneSo....
05:39.37MajorPayneTo cover my ass
05:39.46MajorPayneshould I download any externals?
05:39.49MajorPaynelike say
05:39.57MajorPayneParser-3.0?
05:40.02MajorPayneor LibRockCommm
05:40.04MajorPayneetc. etc.
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05:41.56ckknightpeople still use Metrognome?
05:42.07Nefarionwhy not?
05:42.36ckknightthere's better implementations
05:42.46ckknighteven the Dongle version is better than what's here, afaik
05:42.48Nefarionwhat do you mean?
05:43.13Nefarionoh, nvm
05:44.28ckknightand the implementation that Rock has is pretty snazzy
05:44.58Laricckknight are you working on both Rock and Ace3?
05:45.04Nefarionyeah i saw the separate module for it. haven't looked into it too much tho.
05:45.06ckknightnot working on Ace3
05:45.21Laricah ok.. just commenting on jira?
05:45.26ckknightyea
05:45.35Nefarionwhat's up with ace3 anyway? how far into development is it? anyone?
05:45.54LukianNefarion, alpha! ;D
05:46.15ckknightyea, it's Alpha, apparently
05:46.17Lukianckknight, I think itemsync uses it, and I know archud2 does
05:46.30Lukianand yeah, metrognome is shocking resource usage
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05:47.33Laricis LibParser-4.0 compatible with 3.0 and downwards (so one could essentially only have the 4.0) ?
05:47.54MajorPayneShould I be using LibSharedMedia-2.0 vs SharedMedia ?
05:48.00ckknightyes, Laric
05:48.12ckknightMajorPayne: SharedMedia is the addon, SharedMediaLib is the library
05:48.17MajorPaynek
05:48.20ckknightLibSharedMedia-2.0 is the next version of said library
05:48.30MajorPayneand then SM-2.0
05:48.33MajorPaynegotcha
05:48.37Laricso I can hack up a small Parser-3.0 wich optdeps LibParser-4.0 and skip the other one then?
05:48.38Nefarionis there a compat layer on that?
05:48.48NefarionSML
05:49.07ckknightNefarion: no, but it's not needed. Just use the one you use, they share data
05:49.18MajorPayneckknight: I used Prat, Cart, FuBar, eePanels, Omen, and Pitbull (main addons)
05:49.27ckknightLaric: basically, but AceLibrary/Rock will load the 4.0 version anyway
05:49.31MajorPayneckknight: any suggestions on maybe downloading any particular externals?
05:49.38MajorPayneckknight: just... in the interim
05:49.39ckknightMajorPayne: everything that starts with Lib
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05:49.53MajorPayneugh really?
05:49.58MajorPaynefor how long you think?
05:50.07BirdemaniCKK, more Cart errors after last update
05:50.14ckknightlay em on me
05:50.20Birdemani"Cartographer_LookNFeel-2.0\\LookNFeel.lua:591: Usage: WorldMapFrame:SetScale(scale)\nLibRock-1.0--50820 (LibRock-1.0):2446: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\LibRock-1.0\\LibRock-1.0.lua:2423>\nLibRock-1.0--50820 (LibRock-1.0):2572: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\LibRock-1.0\\LibRock-1.0.lua:2570>\n\n  ---",
05:50.20Birdemani["type"] = "error",
05:50.22ckknightMajorPayne: forever?
05:50.27Birdemani"Cartographer_LookNFeel-2.0\\LookNFeel.lua:463: Usage: WorldMapFrame:SetScale(scale)\nCartographer_LookNFeel-2.0\\LookNFeel.lua:463: in function <...nterface\\AddOns\\Cartographer_LookNFeel\\LookNFeel.lua:459>\n<in C code>: in function `Show'\nCartographer-r49201\\Cartographer.lua:1047: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\Cartographer\\Cartographer.lua:1045>\n(tail call): ?:\nInterface\\FrameXML\\UIParent.lua:789: in function `Sh
05:50.27Birdemani["type"] = "error",
05:50.27Laricckknight why would ace load parser-4.0 when 3.0 is available and that is what packages ask for
05:50.33MajorPayneckknight: so is that the shift in design now?
05:50.36ckknightLaric: magic!
05:50.44MajorPayneckknight: using externals instead of packaging?
05:50.49ckknightMajorPayne: well, standalones and embeds are both workable.
05:50.52MajorPayneI'd imagine that'd be easier for maintenance
05:50.58ckknightalso faster
05:51.15MajorPayneusing external libs you mean vs built in ones?
05:51.28ckknightyes
05:51.33MajorPayneit's fine by me - it makes much more sense
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05:51.50MajorPayneI get the whole thing now about .. how Ace2 works as far as what lib to use if it's included inside an addon, etc.
05:51.59MajorPaynebut I always felt it made more sense to use external libs to just..
05:52.12MajorPayneat least for you guys it'd seem to be much easier to say "Hey rather than me updating my addon for all you guys"
05:52.13Laricno 2.2 today btw?
05:52.18MajorPayne"You guys all update your addons for my lib"
05:52.31Birdemanino patch today
05:52.31GngskLaric, nope
05:53.17ckknightso you all know, I released all 5 of my addons for Rock in preparation for a possible 2.2 patch
05:53.26ckknightI'm a bit glad that 2.2 wasn't this week
05:53.31ckknightso I have another week to prepare
05:53.46Gngskyou mean at least another week
05:54.12Nefarionwhat's so big about 2.2? just a date you set for all your work to be done, or is there something related to rock in it.....?
05:55.02Olisonsigh, wtb dewdrop in fubar :/
05:56.06ckknightNefarion: people upgrade their addons on patch day
05:56.58Nefarionckk, you either zapped the bug i was getting in the last update or it was my own fault (my personal addon errored out for some reason and the freeze happened to go away)
05:57.10ckknighthoorah
05:57.11Olisonckknight: about patch-release: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602495660&pageNo=2&sid=1#29
05:57.38ckknightah, alright
05:59.58Neebleranybody happen to know how to do a dreamlayout for trinketmenu?
06:00.05Navrasckknight - Parrot not saving the icon preference when logging out.  no errors, just turns it back on no matter what
06:00.28Silviu-!c eu gorgonnash Littleone
06:00.31ThraeBotSilviu-: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 9450 HP; 8260 Mana; 124 mana regen; 163 spell crit; 156 spell hit; 1045 +spell dmg/heal; 110 shadow dmg (1155); 4.36% dodge; 42 resilience;[[ TBR: 1344 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmusz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mwlxh ][ Updated: Tue Sep 18 02:13:57 2007 EST ]]
06:00.52CIA-2203ckknight * r49203 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - using massive hax, make a little texture thing in the bottom-right to show that it can be dragged.
06:01.06Neebler!help
06:01.23Nefarionyep, the freeze was my fault. made a change to my file that i forgot about and wasn't sure about in the first place
06:01.33Nefarioninfinite loops ftl
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06:01.37ckknight:-P
06:04.46Olisonckknight: i get this after logging in, should i make a ticked for this: http://fireglow.de/755/tmp/wowerror.jpg
06:04.56Olisonsorry for picture -.-
06:05.02ckknightno, I fixed that a while ago
06:05.13Olisonuh
06:05.15Olison:(
06:05.48Navrasckkinight - any way around the Parrot icon preference reset?
06:06.37MajorPaynethat's the error I was getting
06:06.42MajorPayneone of
06:06.51ckknightNavras: looking into it
06:06.55Navraskk, ty
06:07.04CIA-2203ckknight * r49204 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - add an explicit prefixToObject clear (just in case).
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06:07.32Navrasrest of the preferences save fine, just the icon not
06:07.39Navrasresets on /rl also
06:08.31MajorPaynealso if I dl directly from the SVN
06:08.40MajorPaynedo I have to wait the whole... 00, 20, 40
06:09.51CIA-2203ckknight * r49205 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix nasty bug where nil was passed instead of false. (like farts - silent but deadly)
06:09.51ckknightno
06:09.58ckknightMajorPayne: SVN's instant. Don't abuse it, though.
06:10.12MajorPaynenah I wouldn't
06:10.17MajorPayneI only update right before and after I raid
06:10.34ckknightokay, I think I'm gonna put in another one of my fun Orwellian plans
06:10.43Navraslol major
06:11.14ckknightand you all can't tell me it's out of scope because I define the scope. So there :-P
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06:17.17orionshockjello and good morning everyone
06:17.36ckknightI'll not have your jello, knave!
06:17.51orionshockoh really?
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06:18.15orionshockfine more for me :P
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06:19.07ckknightaw, now I feel like the loser
06:19.18orionshockbtw ckknight  you done putzing with your libs so i can update them?
06:19.34Nefarionholy crap i hate coding! the freeze problem didn't go away when it logically should have and there's nothing else in the code that should logically 'cause it, but disabling it fixes it. wtf?
06:19.45ckknight...
06:19.47ckknightlemme see
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06:20.16ckknightorionshock: yea, pretty much, gonna hack LibRockComm-1.0, but nothing that should affect anything
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06:23.46nogudnikWhat's an easy way to see the actual text for an item or recipe link? Just need to dump it out, nothing fancy.
06:24.36Nefarionyou mean from the raw itemID?
06:24.55nogudnikyup, the |hitem......| text
06:24.56MajorPaynedoes WoWUI (incgamers) have a SVN?
06:25.08MajorPaynegoogled for nothing
06:25.12Nefarionby setting it to the gametooltip, but i forgot the api for it
06:25.27Nefarionno maj
06:25.41nogudnikThat's enough for me, I can look that up now that I have a place to start. Thanks, Nefarion
06:25.46Nefarionwowinterface and curse are much better anyway  =P
06:26.06orionshockthe only other site that has an SVN is cosmos and it's a closed svn last time i checked
06:26.15MajorPaynejust saying because I want LightHeaded, etc.
06:26.29Nefarionwhat?
06:27.16MajorPayneI think LH is only on WoW UI
06:27.20MajorPayneor.. is that wowi?
06:27.25Nefarionwowi
06:27.36Nefarioni haven't seen any of his addons on wowui
06:27.56orionshockhey ckknight  wrt Parser4.0 can i delete parser3.0 and 1.0?
06:28.01ckknightyes
06:28.07orionshockthank god
06:28.34ckknightorionshock: norganna's mods have an svn
06:28.38orionshockcan i poke you in the eye if that dosn't work
06:28.44ckknight...no
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06:29.02Nefarionworks fine for me
06:29.06orionshock:\ ya you'v had a lot of that today by random posters...
06:29.13MajorPaynedo I need to SVN Parser4.0 now too?
06:29.17MajorPayneas an external?
06:29.24CIA-2203recluse * r49206 10TextSpy/code/TextSpy.lua:
06:29.25CIA-22TextSpy:
06:29.25CIA-22- Added interim compatibility for newer Parrot.
06:29.26Nefarionoh yeah they're being brutal on the forums. kinda feel bad for you ckk.
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06:29.40ckknightI told you to get everything that started with Lib
06:29.57MajorPayneI did
06:30.08MajorPaynejust wondering if I should get the Parser one as well
06:30.21ckknightLibParser-4.0 starts with Lib
06:30.26MajorPayneyou guys are talking about it like it's all important heh
06:30.32MajorPaynethat's true
06:30.35MajorPaynemy bad
06:31.17Silviu-ckknight mhh so any mod that used Parser1.1 or 3.0 should work with 4 without any modifications ?
06:31.18Silviu-;)
06:31.24ckknightyes.
06:31.47Silviu-Oh nice
06:31.47Silviu-let me delete 3.0 :D
06:31.53orionshock<PROTECTED>
06:32.45MajorPaynesvn for wowi?
06:32.57orionshockMajorPayne:  no
06:33.09Silviu-:P
06:33.21Silviu-error :D
06:33.31|Kev|MajorPayne: there is a mac based updater, macaceupdater
06:33.43MajorPayneKevi
06:33.47MajorPayneor.. Kev
06:33.50MajorPayneit doesn't work anymore
06:33.53Silviu-ckknight http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot091807093216it2.jpg ;)
06:33.54|Kev|it does
06:34.00MajorPaynethere's nothing in the interface list
06:34.02|Kev|there was a new version at the weekend
06:34.13MajorPayneyeah but does it handle unpacking addons correctly?
06:34.22|Kev|unpacking?
06:34.25MajorPayneI switched from WUU in the interim of MAU not working
06:34.45|Kev|it only does bundled mods, it doesn't play with externals
06:34.45MajorPayneand alllll the addons I had via MAU started unpacking "properly" according to other people
06:34.56MajorPaynelike it was unbundling tons of stuff from BigWigs
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06:37.28orionshockand WAU2 is java based but won't run on mac... that blows..
06:37.51MajorPayneyeah exactly
06:38.07MajorPayneit asks me if I want to trust some certificate
06:38.10MajorPayneand then it does nothing
06:38.22|Kev|oh well, maybe I should have a look at adding noext to mau then
06:38.45MajorPayneyes please
06:38.49MajorPaynebecause tbh I liked MAU
06:38.54MajorPayneit was clunky/is clunky but..
06:38.58Birdemanistill getting that line 591 error from cart (look and feel) btw
06:39.00MajorPayneit did what I needed it to do
06:39.20MajorPaynethen it stopped working (no more addons in the list)... so I switched to WUU... which fucking sucks, btw
06:39.30|Kev|what do I need to do to discover the dependencies for mods?
06:39.44MajorPaynewhoever wrote that - gg on updatingmy addons to older revisions than whats newest.
06:39.52MajorPaynenot that I could do better
06:39.53omega_|Kev|: parse the rss, its in there I think
06:39.54ckknightSilviu-: you gotta make sure that LibParser-4.0 runs before that
06:39.55MajorPayne<PROTECTED>
06:40.03|Kev|omega_: so it is
06:40.08orionshock<PROTECTED>
06:40.12|Kev|omega_: ta
06:40.22Silviu-orionshock okay sec
06:40.50orionshockthe compatibility layer is there, from the looks of the code. and E comes before L so ..
06:42.04durcynorionshock: slow down, you're making sense again =P
06:42.24Silviu-Aha that worked
06:42.45Silviu-ckknight maybe u can commit to eavesdrop toc and add parser4 too :P
06:42.45MajorPayneand Kev
06:42.53MajorPayneyou know what would make me love MAU?
06:42.59MajorPayneI like it now but love, next step
06:43.02|Kev|sortable columns?
06:43.03MajorPaynesortable columns
06:43.07MajorPayneyep
06:43.13MajorPayneand filters like ...
06:43.13|Kev|there's a patch in the bugtracker for that
06:43.17MajorPayne"hide all unchecked"
06:43.19|Kev|I'll look at it next time I'm coding
06:43.22RaydenUniso
06:43.29RaydenUniwhat should a shadowpriest use for yellow slot gems?
06:43.37orionshock<PROTECTED>
06:43.38RaydenUnilooking at green quality or maybe blue
06:43.39Gngsk9 spell dmg?
06:44.02Gngskwhat socket bonus are you trying to get?
06:44.04durcynRaydenUni: runed red or veiled orange
06:44.09RaydenUnithis is for shadow's embae
06:44.14ckknightorionshock: it's not fine enough for a pragmatist like myself
06:44.16RaydenUni+3 hit for each one i get the bonus
06:44.24ckknight:-P
06:44.30RaydenUnidurcyn veiled orange don't exist yet
06:44.30durcynRaydenUni: veiled then
06:44.37orionshockah true.. but real and forces dev to be smart and not dumb..
06:44.39durcynnoble topaz?
06:44.49RaydenUnicrit and spell?
06:44.54durcynno, that's potent
06:44.57RaydenUnioh
06:44.57durcynveiled his hit/dmg
06:45.04RaydenUniveiled noble topaz is not in game
06:45.09RaydenUninone of the +spell hit ones are
06:45.09durcyn....
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06:45.16durcynwhich rock have you been living under?
06:45.20durcynhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=31867
06:45.25orionshockdurcyn:  the lib?
06:45.27RaydenUnioh wait
06:45.33RaydenUnidurcyn the green quality one is not in game
06:45.38RaydenUnithe blue is
06:46.00durcynRaydenUni: as is the pyrstone cut, yes.  green gems are for poor people =P
06:46.05durcynpyrestone, rather
06:46.14RaydenUnii have 1200g and no epic flying mount, so i'm poor
06:46.23CartasAwwwww.
06:46.26durcyneh?  noble topaz shouldn't cost more than 50g.
06:46.38RaydenUniyou'd take 4 hit and 5 dmg over 8 hit?
06:46.42CartasStar of Elune goes for 50g on my server.
06:46.44RaydenUnii have 3 dawnstones already
06:46.57durcynRaydenUni: hopefully i'd already be hit capped, then runed red gems all the way
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06:46.59RaydenUnii forgot about that
06:47.10RaydenUnii have 29 hit :D
06:47.15RaydenUni!c us destromath raydenuni
06:47.18ThraeBotRaydenUni: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (13/2/46). 7461 HP; 8145 Mana; 181 mana regen; 27 mp5; 115 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 437 +spell dmg/heal; 50 frost dmg (487); 89 shadow dmg (526); 5.06% dodge; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1303 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ][ Updated: Tue Sep 18 03:00:44 2007 EST ]]
06:48.36RaydenUnibah, its too late for me to think about this
06:48.55sylvanaar!c us proudmoore portalme
06:48.58ThraeBotsylvanaar: Portalme, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (14/0/47). 7681 HP; 8640 Mana; 173 mana regen; 45 mp5; 121 spell crit; 55 spell hit; 715 +spell dmg; 692 +heal; 51 shadow dmg (766); 6.18% dodge; 29 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1445 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2afxq9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cr4wg ][ Updated: Tue Sep 18 03:02:24 2007 EST ]]
06:48.58orionshocki hate gems... i wish they never put them in the game
06:49.23sylvanaari dont like gems either
06:50.04orionshocksylvanaar:  ah .. there you are.. question: alot of bug reports comming in have Prat_AutoLoD in their debug print out ... any ideas why?
06:50.21sylvanaarum
06:50.41RaydenUnionly 51 shadow dmg?
06:50.50sylvanaar766
06:50.55RaydenUnibut stricly shadow
06:51.01RaydenUnimost of yours is spell dmg
06:51.04sylvanaaryeah
06:51.15orionshockbah .. never mind :P
06:51.35sylvanaarorionshock you see why?
06:51.46RaydenUniwow isn't calculating my shadow dmg right...
06:52.06RaydenUnii have 2/3 of my shadow's embrace but its showing only around a 40dmg discrepancy between spell dmg and shadow dmg
06:52.28RaydenUnii have around 160 shadow dmg
06:53.22ckknightalright, I'll cya all later
06:53.27durcyntoodles ck
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06:59.40RaydenUniso my mouse is moving left, but only on this computer
06:59.43RaydenUnion the other one its fine
07:00.31TNSemaybe it is a fascist?
07:00.44TNSehmm not that would be right.
07:00.52TNSemaybe he's a communist!
07:01.06CartasNah, because then all mice would move the same way...
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07:01.45TNSewell, it must be a political movement
07:01.46TNSeI'm sure.
07:01.48orionshocksylvanaar: the only thing i saw prat_autoLoD do is load addons but it's odd that it would be in the debug stack... it has very specific function calls that have provided variables..
07:01.54orionshockso no clue..
07:02.32sylvanaargot an example?
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07:03.08orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/ROCK-32
07:03.41orionshockhttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/ROCK-28
07:03.51orionshockthe 2nd one has a complete stack trace from the look of it
07:04.03sylvanaarsomething to do with embedding
07:05.35orionshockautolod.lua - first function is local and it's tracing though it.. it's a generic function but ... it's local. only way to access it iirc is to first call a method that then calls a local function
07:05.36sylvanaaror prats event UID generator
07:06.42orionshockand at the bottom of the same file "AutoLOD:Load(auto_lod_enabled)" explicitly calls "LoadComponent("Prat_Modules")" .. so it's not even able to pass a variable of sorts to that local function
07:07.06orionshockso im lost to be honest
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07:12.09mastaAFKhmm, am I blind, or is the transperency option in fubar missing in the rock config menu?
07:12.33mykxlol it's under "fubar"
07:12.56sylvanaari think all its saying may be that Prat is what caused LibRock to be loaded
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07:13.31mykxquick question for you guys, is there any way to stop chat frames highlighting when moused over
07:14.54liquidzoolock them in the interface options might do it
07:15.13sylvanaarorionshock thats probably it actually - the stack before librock is how librock was loaded in the first place.
07:15.21mykxthanks liquidzoo :) lol
07:16.15mastaAFKhehe, i really am blind
07:16.16orionshocksylvanaar: i can understand AceLib loading Rock... (as backwards as that sounds) but it shouldn't be tracing thought a close look like it is
07:16.20mastaAFKthx a bunch
07:16.31orionshock*closed loop
07:16.59MajorPayne|Kev|: Is there some website you update frequently with updates to MAU??
07:17.33|Kev|MAU itself should check for updates when you load it
07:17.50|Kev|but no, I don't post about MAU really
07:18.00|Kev|would a google groups group be useful?
07:18.12orionshockit's free :D
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07:20.46sylvanaarorionshock i think the debugstack is lost at the call into LoadAddOn
07:21.21orionshockchalked up to coincidental?
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07:23.23MajorPayneif I update via SVN
07:23.29MajorPayneis it normal to see...
07:23.31MajorPayneFetching external item into 'Prat/libs/Sink-1.0'
07:23.33MajorPayneExternal at revision 49206.
07:23.34MajorPayneAt revision 49206.
07:23.36MajorPayneFetching external item into 'RatingBuster/libs/AceAddon-2.0'
07:23.37MajorPayneExternal at revision 49206.
07:23.39MajorPayneas in
07:23.46MajorPayneevery "revision" is at 49206
07:23.49MajorPaynefor like 100 addons?
07:24.05sylvanaarthats how it works...first time?
07:24.23MajorPayneyeah I just downloaded all of them via svn co
07:24.34MajorPaynesvn co http://whatever
07:24.55sylvanaarorionshock there is a pcall somewhere that may be eating part of the stack
07:25.01orionshockya
07:25.03MajorPaynethey all downloaded and deployed ... all of them.. "checked out revision 49206"
07:25.15orionshockMajorPayne: ya - it's getting what's called externals
07:25.26sbhm Antiarc
07:25.30MajorPayneyeah but for ... every addon in the script?
07:25.41orionshockDis-Embedded = Without Externals, Embedded = With Externals
07:25.46MajorPaynesurely in the last 45~ minutes or so something had ot have been updated
07:25.47orionshocknot a script
07:25.53orionshockit's an SVN property
07:26.08MajorPayneno I mean every addon I wrote into the script
07:26.16MajorPayneI just figured it'd show up as like...
07:26.27orionshocki generaly will update wtih out externals and download them independantly
07:26.29evlA rogue transferred to our server (Kazzak) with full T6 and dual legendaries from Illidan. He apparently paid 7000€ for it and a week later it's banned, some people have too much money
07:26.32MajorPaynefor instance let's say the latest revision on wowace of Omen is 47831
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07:26.43MajorPaynethis is showing as 49026
07:26.52MajorPayneam I wrong in applying that logic?
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07:26.54sbevl: yup - was here in chan 2 days ago :o
07:27.08orionshock49026 is the current SVN revision
07:27.11sb(the news, not the rogue :p)
07:27.27MajorPayneso if I run......
07:27.30sylvanaarthey will all say the same number
07:27.33MajorPaynesv up *
07:27.39MajorPaynesvn up *
07:27.45MajorPayneevery.. day or so
07:27.45sylvanaarbecause the are in fact at that number
07:27.48MajorPaynemaybe less
07:27.55orionshockSVN was not entirely setup to run true mulit-project
07:28.06orionshock*multi
07:28.10Arrowmasterevl: baned already? lol!
07:28.12MajorPaynebut after three days or so
07:28.18MajorPaynewhat should I expect to occur?
07:28.25orionshockafter 3 days or so depending on what got updated
07:28.30MajorPayne(if I were to run..... svn up *)
07:28.34orionshockyou'll see some changed files
07:28.37|Kev|MajorPayne: did you answer my q? about a google group?
07:28.55sylvanaarif the current revision is 4000 then if you ask for 5000, it will say ok here is 5000 and give you 4000
07:28.56MajorPayneah ok yeah ddin't see that
07:29.13MajorPayne|Kev| google group would rock - I'd bookmark it and download the latest version all the time
07:29.21MajorPayneand MAU is def not checking for new versions
07:29.29|Kev|what version are you running?
07:29.37|Kev|I think I introduced the self update really early on
07:29.38MajorPayneat least... whatver versio nI have .. which I think you pointed me to actually, a month or two ago
07:29.44MajorPayne4.x?
07:29.56MajorPaynewhatever one is NOT On the site linked to from wowace.com
07:29.57|Kev|how very odd
07:30.09|Kev|is it possible that you had a box asking if you wanted to self update and chose no?
07:30.09orionshockthink of it this way MajorPayne ; when  a commit is made to the svn - that "Changeset" is for the entire repository - not all files are changed on each commit but.. they are all part of that commit in the way that they are all now at that version.
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07:30.21|Kev|also: there should be a menu item to look for updates too :)
07:30.47sylvanaarthe SVN only has 1 version for the whole thing
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07:31.02MajorPayne|Kev| will check that soon
07:31.07MajorPaynethanks :)
07:31.12MajorPayne@sylvanaar: ah ok
07:31.17sylvanaarevery single file on it shares that version
07:31.37MajorPayneso then ... svn up + is just running a check against...
07:31.48MajorPaynethe entire "local" ... "version" I have..
07:31.55MajorPayneagainst the one on the "servers"
07:32.06MajorPayneand if anything has changed since the last.. "check out"...
07:32.10MajorPayneit downloads just that?
07:32.22orionshockya only downloads updated files
07:32.23MajorPayneand ups the... "revision" of my local... .whatever?
07:32.32MajorPayneso like shadowcopy on winserver/
07:32.54Mech0zis it possible to get a mod to autojoin a battelground on invite?
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07:32.57MajorPayne(kind of sort of at least)
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07:33.07MajorPayne@mech0z: yes
07:33.15orionshockMech0z:  yes - battleground FU does this iirc
07:33.16Mech0zdo you know a anme of such a mod
07:33.17MajorPaynebattlegroundFu
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07:33.22Mech0zhmm I have that one
07:33.23Mech0zone moment
07:33.42MajorPayneor search WoWUI / wowi / curse for anything battlegrounds related
07:33.45MajorPaynetons of them do so
07:33.55MajorPayne@syl: so am I understanding it correctly then?
07:34.03Mech0zcant see anything in battelground foo at least
07:34.40MajorPayneI think it does this automatically
07:34.48orionshocki know automation does
07:34.54MajorPayneor will once configured to do so via the plugin's right click menu
07:34.58MajorPayneyeah thats right
07:35.02MajorPayneautomaton
07:35.11MajorPayne@MEch0z: download Automaton
07:35.17MajorPaynedoes exactly what you want
07:35.19Nefarionbattlegroundfi doesn't auto-join
07:35.21Mech0zis that ace mod?
07:35.25MajorPayneyep
07:35.25orionshockaye
07:35.26Nefarioni'm positive of that
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07:38.59evlHoly shiy
07:39.01evlI just realized something
07:39.26evlThe release of 2.2 and the release of the Orange Box from Valve are related, they are pulling the time-space continum apart with their constant delays!
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07:40.10evlsharing is caring!
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07:41.22sbdn forever?
07:42.34orionshockis it me or is WAU bitchier than normal when wow is running?
07:42.49evlDepends on fullscreen/windowed ihmo
07:43.10Hjalteorionshock: what version are you running?
07:43.25orionshock1.9.44.654
07:43.54pb_ee1Morning
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07:46.16Hjaltepb_ee1, can elephant restore chats when i reload the UI?
07:46.22|Kev|MajorPayne: meh, applied the 'sortable columns' patch from my bug tracker, and it didn't work :(
07:46.35MajorPayneballlsss
07:46.44|Kev|well, it sorts by name on load
07:46.47|Kev|which is an improvement :)
07:46.52MajorPaynehehe
07:46.56MajorPaynethis is true
07:47.05MajorPaynenow all you'd need to sort out is the unpackaging thing
07:47.14MajorPayneand eventually the columns
07:47.19MajorPayneand I'd be back using MAU
07:47.34MajorPayneOH and one other feature request
07:47.51MajorPayneshowing a changelog... "report" of all changed addons
07:48.08MajorPayneso I can see the changelog(s) of each addon that got updated at a glance
07:48.29|Kev|that one is considerably more work :)
07:48.51MajorPaynehehe
07:49.00MajorPaynewell the other two are considerably more importan
07:49.22MajorPaynebut seeing a changelog somewhere without having to mull around in the addon folders per addon would be icing on the cake
07:49.36|Kev|yes, I can see that would be useful :)
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08:00.17MajorPaynewell thanks for all the help everyone
08:00.24MajorPaynetake care :)
08:00.28sag_ich_nicht~lart MajorPayne
08:00.28purlshoots MajorPayne in the head
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08:00.32sag_ich_nichtbye. :P
08:00.36MajorPayneand kev, looking forward to that  new MAU version
08:00.39MajorPaynehehe
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08:00.40MajorPaynenite
08:00.51|Kev|I'm looking at a google group now
08:00.53|Kev|and gn
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08:01.16MajorPayneword :)
08:02.04HjalteAnyone remembers what patch they added the thing you could write in config.wtf if your graphics were weird?
08:02.38evluiSomething
08:02.39ZealotOnAStick2.0.something I think.
08:02.49Hjalte2.0.5 it seems :)
08:02.50ZealotOnAStickMight have been a 2.1 thing, though.
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08:13.10HjalteWhere are my graphics settings saved?
08:15.02Jaxon<wowdir>/WTF/config.wtf
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08:16.36zxcvyo's, got my stuff working again pretty much but i got this now:...pher_Mining\libs\Talismonger-3.0\Talismonger-3.0.lua line 21:   Talismonger-3.0 requires Babble-Spell-2.2.
08:16.43zxcvanyone know how to fix this?
08:17.09zxcv(reinstalled everything WITH externals... but this thing doesn't work)
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08:22.09orionshockzxcv:   Talismonger-3.0 requires Babble-Spell-2.2.
08:22.13orionshockinstall babble spell
08:22.19orionshockor babble
08:22.42orionshockthe effect your feeling is a lazy autor
08:22.46zxcvjust as a standalone thing?
08:22.52orionshockya
08:22.57zxcvk
08:23.21zxcvwell the author may be lazy but you get what you pay for...
08:24.02orionshocknow now; lets not be resentful :D
08:24.09zxcvis the thing that I install "Babble-2.2"?
08:24.12orionshockya
08:24.19zxcvwell, you misunderstand me
08:24.41zxcvi mean, the author is doing it for free so i can't expect anything
08:24.51orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:24.52zxcvstill, it's nice when things work
08:26.19zxcvi am not part of this community, well i am just getting into some proper mods...  well, as far as I can see from changelogs, this ck seems quite busy...  so i'll cut him some slack
08:26.40JaxonI'm fairly sure his main character is only 47.
08:26.50mykxtrue it's nice when things work but to be honest bugs around here seem to be fixed within hours
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08:27.50zxcv..rface\AddOns\FuBar_GreedBeacon\FuBar_GreedBeacon.lua line 44:   AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Library "AceDebug-2.0" does not exist.
08:28.24zxcvi guess the standard thing is just to install the missing stuff at the top level?
08:29.39zxcvhmm, although AceDebug-2.0 isn't listed in WAU
08:30.07NeeblerFINALLY! TF2 beta is out
08:30.18ramozi find it funny that i get guildwar adds with wau
08:30.24orionshockzxcv:  part of ace2 core
08:30.54ZealotOnASticktf2?
08:31.00ZealotOnAStickas in team fortress?
08:31.36Neebleryessum
08:31.38zxcvsorry for all my noob questions, and thanks for helping
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08:31.45ZealotOnAStickWhere can one get it?
08:31.53Neeblerpre-order Orange Box
08:31.55Neeblervia steam
08:31.58Adirelle|WorkNeebler: remind me : on which game is it based ?
08:32.02Neeblerand you can get into the beta
08:32.19ZealotOnAStickHell, next thing you know, we'll see aerial swine, and 3DR will announce a ship date for Duke Nukem Forever.
08:32.30Neeblerit's based off of the halflife and quake mod "teamfortress". it's running on the source (halflife2) engine
08:32.31zxcvbtw after i install addons, do I have to exit the game and restart, or is a /rl enough?
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08:32.54ZealotOnAStickfull restart.
08:32.58mykxyou have to restart, /rl is if you change something in your WTF folder I believe
08:32.58zxcvk
08:33.02zxcvright
08:33.03Xinhuanif new files were added, you need a restart
08:33.06ZealotOnAStickany time a toc file changes, or files are added or removed, have to exit and restart.
08:33.09Xinhuanif no new files were added, the /rl is enough
08:33.18zxcvok
08:33.36Dudewoooooow... so i just do my weekly wave of mod updates
08:33.51pb_ee1Zealot is right, it's also needed if you change the TOC file
08:33.55rhaveand like my pitbull is fubared
08:34.16Xinhuanthe TOC file is unlikely to get changed though, TOC usually only changes if you add new files ;p
08:34.17orionshockstoners to the forums.. not irc
08:34.35zxcvscore! just logged in and everything worked! even cartographer!
08:34.47rhavelol every time i change settings it doesnt save on log outs, and my health bar even tho at like 50% or something health, it still shows everything at 100%
08:35.01rhaveaaaand my cartogropher was fucked up as well
08:35.19mykxI didn't realise how much I love cartographer until it wasn't working but I got that fixed :P
08:35.28rhave^
08:35.58mykxWhat error are you getting with your cartographer ?
08:36.54orionshockdo not paste the full debug stack to IRC
08:36.57orionshockjust the headdings
08:37.06ZealotOnAStickor use pastey
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08:37.31rhaveim so confused as to how ONE RANDOM DAY you choose to update your mods everything goes to shit... well for one, it refused to work with nquest or qcomments and basically other than the fact it was there for being a map, it didin't do anything ELSE other than being a "floating" map.. and every time I went into options my entire menu in each section was like...  best option for it is fubared
08:37.37rhavelike letters were stacking in each other
08:38.15rhavelike word "Enable" was seen in top left corner and the check box for the thing was in completely different corner of the freaking menu
08:38.24rhaveso i had to reinstall everything
08:38.35orionshockok dude.. you sound like your on pot
08:38.42rhaveand apparently the version from curse gaming seems to work better than the freaking wowaceupdated
08:38.44rhaveno im serious
08:38.55rhaveupdater*
08:38.58ZealotOnAStickWell, 1) wowace.com mods are considered, for the most part, beta status at best.  You choose to update when something might be in an in-progress state and get fucked.
08:39.15ZealotOnAStickYes, ones on the addon sites are considered "stable" release versions.
08:39.15rhaveWOW REALLY? hahahah I didint know I was downloading BETA mods
08:39.31ZealotOnAStickThen  bother to read rather than bitching and making an ass of yourself in here.
08:39.36rhaveis there an option on WAU to download only "stable" versions?
08:39.41orionshockno rhave
08:40.00ZealotOnASticknot at present, but it's been suggested, and something most of the authors are supportive of for a future version (possibly in WAU2)
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08:40.28orionshockWAU2 allready supports that but dosn't have an RSS feed to feed it
08:40.34rhavei've been using this thing for good 4 months and I never realized it was all beta versions
08:40.49rhaveO_O
08:40.57ZealotOnAStickIt reminds you to back up your addons folder (unless you turned that option off).
08:40.57mykxwell that goes to show that they're good at what they do lol
08:41.15mykxnormally if an addon is broken I boot up WAU a few hours later and it's fixed
08:41.20rhaveyeah from the headaches I've gotten today I guess ill start backing this crap
08:41.24rhavei don't want any more headaches
08:41.53orionshockis there a way to teach purl a new emote
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08:42.18rhaveI actually thought the reason it asked for you to back up is incase the software DELETED something you wouldn't to delete.. and not to just back up incase an author fucked up with code and never realized and released it
08:42.50mykxearly versions of wau deleted all of my WTF folder so I didn't use it for a long time but now it's good imo
08:43.17rhavei've never had that happen =/
08:43.28rhavegod I wish everything worked same on every machine
08:43.33mykxwell not all of it but just the settings for the addons that I was updating
08:43.37rhaveit would be so much easier dealing with problems that way
08:43.54orionshock~lart rhave
08:43.54purloffers rhave some herring
08:43.59orionshock~lart mykx
08:43.59purlpours hot grits down the front of mykx's pants
08:44.14mykxgrits eh?
08:45.01rhavew/e suits that guy
08:45.02rhavehaha
08:45.24rhavebut lesson learned today.. back up your stuff before updating on WAU ><
08:46.44mykxwell yeah if you have a raid you shouldn't update 30 mins before it ;)
08:46.48orionshock~botmail for ckknight: you brought the weirdos to irc after your rock fiasco :P
08:47.49mykxuh yeah
08:50.19Stan_mmm waterfall is broken :(
08:51.45rhaveumm does anyone know what Banzai does to pitbull because aparently its breaking up my pitbull
08:52.34cryogenit adds aggro alerting, at a guess
08:54.27CIA-2203toadkiller * r49207 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua:
08:54.27CIA-22Waterfall-1.0:
08:54.27CIA-22- Fix off by 1 error for column parameter of WaterfallDropdown
08:54.31rhaveas in what?
08:54.42Stan_hmm :P
08:54.49Arrowmasterthats all banzai does, aggro detection
08:55.06rhavedoes it give u a pop up when u have aggro?
08:55.50Arrowmasterbanzai lib just does aggro detection, it doesnt actually do anything though when it detects who has aggro
08:56.17ZealotOnAStickusually frame highlighting, or a screen flash, or something.  The lib just gives info to the addon on when you get aggro, the addon decides what to do to let you know.
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08:58.40rhavehmm... doesnt seem like i need that function.. as long as my omen flashes my screen red and writes "You have surpassed 90% threat over X tank." it should be sufficient... unless omen uses banzai too? :o
08:59.23Arrowmasternot sure it might
09:00.02orionshockme thinks not
09:00.18TNSeif I ever pass 90% threat of tank
09:00.21TNSeI'd be pissy
09:00.38TNSeas caster I should never be below 110%! :P
09:01.20sag_ich_nichtdie.
09:01.23TNSebut yeah, that screen flashing
09:01.24rhavewell im melee... and i get angry when my t5 mt is doing 600 tps on a boss that gives him more than unlimited rage
09:01.31TNSegod damn
09:01.42TNSeI had to remove omen because of it, no matter what settings I used it never went awa
09:01.43rhaveand he gets defensive when i say do more aggro rofl
09:02.15rhaveanother problem with him, is that for some reason Omen doest work with him
09:02.34rhaveyet KTM works fine, so because (THANKFULLY) omen reads KTM data, I can see what he is at from my omen
09:02.36TNSegood tank.
09:02.48ramozzomg new people
09:03.00TNSetanks are socalled conservatists
09:03.04TNSeatlast the good ones
09:03.07TNSethey dont want change
09:03.10TNSethey always go with the safe
09:03.28rhaveyou think he is lieing about omen not working? maybe he just doesnt want to get used to new and better thing?
09:03.34TNSe...
09:03.42Adirelle|Workdo you know you can DISABLE flashing screen ?
09:03.46rhavei just dont understand how a mod can NOT work
09:03.50TNSeI tried Adirelle|Work :P
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09:03.52Arrowmastermaybe he tried an older broken version
09:04.10TNSebut every time I switched char
09:04.11TNSeit was back
09:04.19ramozrhave: i know, he might have downloaded omen without externals and not got threat-1.0
09:04.20rhaveno I want that flashing screen.... its only way for me to get attention.. first I see the flahes, then I realize theres huge red text "you have surpased 90% threat" and only then I stop
09:04.23orionshockTNSe: use a different profile :D
09:04.38TNSeI just installed threat instead
09:04.53TNSeI dont need omens interface, if I pull aggro as shadowpriest something has gone wrong somewhere else :P
09:04.55ramozcant install threat "instead"
09:05.07rhavewhats threat 1.0? only thing I know is i downloaded omen from WAU and it worked ever since
09:05.08Adirelle|Workanother point to know, if not used properly (AKA master target), KTM will report cumulative threat, which can be much higher than what it is rely
09:05.15Adirelle|Workas it's not a real matter for DPS, it is for tank
09:05.27rhaveshadow priests generate MASSIVE ammoutns of threat with VE
09:05.31TNSeOmen is an interface for the Threat lib
09:05.48TNSeThreat lib collects your threat and announces it to others
09:05.59ZealotOnAStickTNSe: How much +dam or +shadow are you running?  Our SPs have a difficult time NOT pulling aggro, and we have damn good ones.
09:06.03TNSerhave, so don't use VE? :P
09:06.07Adirelle|Workrhave: threat-1.0 is what does the threat calculation (the backend), it is embedded into Omen (the graphical frontend)
09:06.17TNSeZealotOnAStick, 1223 +shadow
09:06.35TNSeVE generates a shitload of threat
09:06.39JaxonSo does VT
09:06.39TNSeso solution is simple. Dont use VE
09:06.55TNSeyeah, but VT is the reason we're there
09:06.56TNSe:P
09:06.57rhaveyeah some sensitive fights like hydross, alar, and vash VE will kill them
09:06.57Adirelle|Workwhat are VE and VT ??
09:07.01rhaveand most likely wipe the raid
09:07.04JaxonVampiric Embrace and Touch
09:07.05TNSehydross?
09:07.09TNSe2 dot rounds
09:07.10TNSethen halt
09:07.11TNSerepeat
09:07.13rhaveim talking about the one that HEALS party
09:07.17TNSeyou wont pull aggro with that
09:07.26TNSeal'ar? I pull aggro every time start p2
09:07.28rhavethe healing aggro can fuck up the transition
09:07.31TNSetank taunts off, I work on adds
09:07.41rhavei know, but it happened already more than once
09:07.50TNSeVE = heals party
09:07.58rhavethey probably use it by now but im sure they have learned thier lesson
09:08.03Xinhuanyou can have a hunter misdirect on phase change
09:08.04TNSeI do 2 dot rotations on hydross
09:08.06JaxonTNSe: have your tanks taunting during phase one, we started doing that and Al'ar goes straight for one of them during phase 2.
09:08.06Xinhuanits not difficult
09:08.07ZealotOnAStickThe ONLY reason our SPs get aggro on al'ar at the start of P2 is because I soulshatter near the end of P1.  
09:08.18TNSeJaxon, its better that it goes for me
09:08.23TNSethen tanks know where to go
09:08.33TNSeI get bop'ed anyway by a pally
09:08.34JaxonYeah, definately, why would you want your tanks with aggro? :P
09:08.47TNSetanks just intervene and taunt
09:08.54TNSeand I walk over to adds and kill them
09:09.03rhave<-- feral charge taunt and i have aggro entire fight untill i get melt armor
09:09.05rhavehahaha
09:09.15TNSeyup
09:09.27TNSetaunting in p1 works fine too
09:09.32TNSebut its not a sure way to get him
09:09.50TNSebest way is as you say, have the beat run in and try to get him
09:09.54rhaveactually i feel sad for _everyone_ else in the raid when im tanking al'ar.. its just SOOOO easy.. all you do is mash buttans and press 1 taunt button whenever your ot/mt gets melt armor
09:09.57TNSehave 1 warrior on whoever does most threat p1
09:10.12TNSebeat = bear
09:10.37TNSecan't talk about vashj
09:10.42rhavei actually tanked alar with 2 tanks p1 once cause one was stupid and got killed in fire quil and we didint have brez... Dash and sprint potions saved the day hahahaha
09:10.51TNSeheh
09:10.52xtTNSe: just hve the tanks taunt in phase1
09:11.05TNSemy shadowfiend tanked al'ar
09:11.07TNSeme + another priest
09:11.16TNSebecause tank fell off :P
09:11.29TNSethat was ... interesting
09:11.34TNSeimpressive evasion on shadowfiend
09:11.44rhaveoh for vash what kills them is that when they pull healing aggro, the elites come around and one shot them and i yell "i fucking said fade you moron, not continue to mindflay a mob"
09:11.55pb_ee1what are zhCN & zhTW? Traditionnal and Simplified Chinese?
09:12.00rhaveyeah we had shadowfiend alar tanks quiet often
09:12.04TNSerhave, I have 0 experience on that fight
09:12.13TNSeso I can't say what I'd do there
09:12.25ZealotOnAStickchinese and I believe taiwainese variant of chinese.
09:12.33TNSebut I guess I'd help kite the kiting thingies WITHOUT VE :P
09:13.11TNSeVT doesn't generate a whole lot of threat in my experience
09:13.16ZealotOnAStickWe put SPs on Strider DPS, and use them as final stops on the cores to shut down pylons.
09:13.21rhaveokay basically on phase 2 she goes into a bubble, and every 60 seconds a CLEAVING clothie one shotting elite comes out with a blank aggro table.. and as always it goes for spriest first because of VE and if the spriest doesnt fade in time before the tank arrives to taunt mob off them, the spriest dies instantely
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09:13.47TNSerhave, yeah, but that can be used to your advantage too :P
09:13.47rhavejust an add
09:13.59TNSebetter to have it go for a spriest than a druid or priest anyway
09:14.24pb_ee1ZealotOnAStick: actually on Curse you can find trad / simp chinese and Korean, but not Taiwainese
09:14.37rhaveit could, but because of fight mechanics and you having to stay on OTHER mobs which could only be attacked by ranged DPS (e.i: you) you're too busy spamming mindflays and not watching your got damn busiess and not fading lmao
09:14.51ZealotOnAStickI said I believe.  Apparently that belief is wrong.
09:14.53TNSehehe
09:15.02TNSeyeah, MF is hard business
09:15.06ZealotOnAStickI'd buy simplified and traditional.
09:15.13Grumdoesn't everyone have an aggro warning?
09:15.16TNSeI'm pressing MF as hard as I can
09:15.20rhavei swear once priest starts MFing he blanks out and forgets about entire raid
09:15.23TNSeITS NOT DOING ANY MORE DAMAGE WHAT AM I DOING WRONG???
09:15.26Grumand especially priest - smack fade instantly ;D
09:15.47rhavei have to yell on top of my voice on vent for them to fade
09:15.49rhavehaha
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09:15.57Grumand then it's too late ;D
09:16.02TNSewe have a tank that uses push to talk
09:16.04TNSeand sometimes
09:16.06TNSewhen he gets busy
09:16.08rhaveyup, its then too late.. hahahah
09:16.10ZealotOnAStickwe call out the direction the elites are coming from when they head up, and it's the tank/ot/dps warrior job to grab them, and the SPs to basically not be in the damn way.
09:16.13TNSewe can hear him press his keyboard harder and harder
09:16.45rhavei know zealot, we do the same, but spriests usually grab aggro first because of VE on strider
09:16.49TNSe<3 people that think hitting keys harder does any good
09:17.10rhaveand sometimes elites stop moving to the middle of the room and just turn around and go COMPLETELY different direction and smack on random healers before OT gets there
09:17.20TNSeouch
09:17.21ZealotOnAStickthen have them stand in consistent areas, so the warriors/bears know where they'll need to go to pick them up.  
09:17.26Grumeven more fun! having your 100slot vent server go down the day you want to raid vashj for the first time! ^^
09:17.49rhaveyeah we tell them to stand more to middle so that elites can atleast go in one somewhat predictable path....
09:17.59TNSelol
09:18.07TNSeor what if a tank gets feared just before a cleave
09:18.16TNSeand elite turns around and one shots your melee
09:18.24rhavethen the spriest is as good as a dead spriest
09:18.25pb_ee1Thanks Zealot ;)
09:19.04rhavepretty much only people that can survive the elites are shamans and paladins.. i never seen a tree or a clothie live from them
09:19.10TNSeheh
09:19.12TNSeouch :P
09:20.00rhavehell even if a rogue gets stupid enough to be cleaved he is 90% to be dead
09:20.17TNSeI'm NE
09:20.19TNSeI'll dodge
09:20.33TNSelol
09:20.40rhavewe had that happen once "durr im a rogue ill run AROUND the 180 degrees cleaving mob for NO REASON since im bored and all, and then oh hey, i get cleaved how did that happen"
09:20.42TNSeI've tanked things so often and dodged like mad
09:21.10TNSe"aggro, fade on cd... Elunes grace"
09:21.15rhavewe had healers run into STATIONARY mob's cleave as well
09:21.22ZealotOnAStickI've lived through a cleave at full health, a damn close thing, but I'm a warlock with about 12k raid health.  Staying topped off in that fight can be a bitch, though.
09:21.22rhavelmao
09:21.48TNSenerf 16% dodge
09:22.00rhave12k? sure u can live thru that only because you have the health, priests have like 8k health and 2k armor, lmao gl living
09:22.09TNSe:P
09:22.10rhaverogues tend to have around 10k health in dps gear
09:22.14ZealotOnAStickthey have more armor than I do.
09:22.21TNSepriests have 1200 more armor
09:22.22Arrowmasteri dont even have 2k armor raidbuffed
09:22.25ZealotOnAStickand if they only have 8k health, they need to get better gear.
09:22.27TNSeand rogues have about same armor as priests
09:22.37Arrowmasterour shadowpriest only has 8k raid buffed
09:22.42TNSeO_o
09:22.43rhaveummmmm mooncloth zealot?
09:22.44TNSeeven I have 9k
09:22.44ZealotOnAStickGet rid of the damn primal mooncloth or frozen shadoweave.
09:22.48Arrowmasteri made him a belt of blasting
09:22.51TNSefrozen shadowweave is good
09:22.57TNSechest has 30 sta
09:23.01TNSeshoulders is a bit weak
09:23.03TNSebut rest is good
09:23.12ZealotOnAStickhrm.  Which is the crappy head and other pieces set, then?
09:23.18rhavethey can't get rid of mooncloth because we keep getting people who join the guild, take priest tokens and then bail haha
09:23.18TNSeSpellstrike
09:23.22ZealotOnASticklots of damage some int and jack all else?
09:23.28ZealotOnAStickyeah, that.
09:23.29TNSeSpellstrike :P
09:23.41Arrowmasteri wish i had spellstrike
09:23.50Arrowmasteronly got shitty T4 helm and pants
09:23.53Grumrhave: mooncloth is good upto t6
09:24.03ZealotOnASticknot for some fights.
09:24.03TNSemooncloth is good up to kara :P
09:24.09Grumt5 'might' replace it .. but its even better in combination with t5 2item bonus
09:24.10TNSemaybe gruul
09:24.17rhavereally?
09:24.23TNSetk/ssc you're a good healer every 15 seconds with mooncloth :P
09:24.24rhaveour priest is replacing her mooncloth with t5
09:24.25ZealotOnAStickLuckily a reasonably large percentage of our healing priests have been with us since AQ40 and NAxx, and know the value of a dead healer.
09:24.26rhavealready
09:24.43Grumseriously, you dont get hit :)
09:24.51TNSeseriously, you do :P
09:24.54Grumand you can get stamina on every other piece of gear and have ~8.5k hp
09:24.59Grumwhich is plenty
09:25.05TNSetry getting water tombed on hydross with 7k buffed
09:25.06TNSeat 100%
09:25.11Arrowmasterrofl
09:25.14ZealotOnAStickTrying wearing Primal Mooncloth to Archimonde and see how you fare.
09:25.19GrumLOL 7k buffed? take paladins :D
09:25.28rhavei know zealot
09:25.35rhavewe tell them to wear pvp gear
09:25.37GrumZealotOnAStick: sure there it wont work - but you likely have some diff gear by then :)
09:25.42rhaveand then we find out they dont even pvp in the first place....
09:25.44rhavehahah
09:25.47TNSe:D
09:25.49Grumpvp sucks ;D
09:25.50Arrowmasterpff i wish i had pvp gear
09:25.58TNSe"use pvp gear" "pvp? whats pvp?"
09:26.05Diao!ap 1928
09:26.05ThraeBotDiao: Arena points from a rating of 1928 is, 2v2: 650, 3v3: 743, 5v5: 929
09:26.07Arrowmasteri have purchased a total of 1 item using arena points
09:26.10ZealotOnAStickthere's always solutions.  PvP gear, flask, imbued netherweave, crawdads . . .
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09:26.19GrumTNSe: you heal people through watertombs
09:26.29TNSeyeah
09:26.30TNSeyou do
09:26.31Grum100% is only 900dmg ticks i think
09:26.33TNSenormally :P
09:26.35Grum250% is 1800dmg
09:26.42Grumso that is 9k dmg in 5s .. rawr
09:26.55TNSethere have been incidents however
09:27.04Grumsurely
09:27.11Grumthe only place little sta sucks is at leo
09:27.13TNSeand the more stamina your healers have
09:27.18TNSethe less incidents you get
09:27.20Grumthat 2.5k 15s dot sucks ass
09:27.31Arrowmasterno on leo the shadows do not have the same exact stats as you
09:27.40ZealotOnAStickDon't even get me started on Gurtogg Bloodboil, Teron Gorefiend, or Reliquary of Souls.
09:27.45Arrowmasterthey always have 10k hp or atleast 10k hp afaik
09:27.50Grum11k always
09:28.00ZealotOnAStickor even, gah, frigging Naj'entus.
09:28.15GrumZealotOnAStick: but thats a whole diff level :)
09:28.26ZealotOnAStickBT will break low stam healers of that approach damn fast.
09:28.38Grumsurely, so i'll wear t5 .. i dont mind :)
09:28.41Arrowmasteri wish was raiding bt
09:28.42rhavewe only have 1 boss down in bt :(
09:29.01rhavewe killed najentus today
09:29.02Grumbut till you are in BT there arent many 'stamina' fights
09:29.06Arrowmasterhell i wish i would for once fucking remember to use the ashtounge cowl before killing al'ar
09:29.07ZealotOnAStickGrum: not really.  Most of BT is execution based, guilds have downed Illidan in T4 with a bit of T5 and smatterings of BT/Hyjal gear.
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09:29.29vithosArrowmaster: lol :(
09:29.31Grumwell t5 holy priest gear sucks ass
09:29.41mbpGrum: not the leggings ;)
09:29.48Grumand those i have =D
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09:29.54Arrowmasteri always use it then die, run back, and forget it on the kill pull
09:29.55Grumgetting gloves when they drop
09:30.02ZealotOnAStickKael'that is the only real cockblock for progression, and that's seriously an execution fight, though pure dps dealing for the weapons phase is helpful.
09:30.03Grumso i have both mooncloth + 2piece t5 bonus
09:30.05Grumrawr =D
09:30.07pb_ee1is the trac completely forgotten and do we use the CIA website (http://cia.vc/stats/project) instead or did I miss something?
09:30.18ZealotOnAStickjira.
09:30.20ZealotOnAStickjira.wowace.com
09:30.29Arrowmasterand fish.wowace.com
09:30.32ZealotOnAStickTRAC has been defenestrated.
09:30.39ZealotOnAStickfish?
09:30.41ZealotOnAStickI missed that one.
09:30.42pb_ee1what about cia?
09:30.48Arrowmastercia still works
09:31.12pb_ee1i must admit that i'm a bit lost between all those tools, jira, fish and cia
09:31.13Arrowmasterbut its not as useful as fish imho
09:31.48pb_ee1so we just use cia for the irc bot?
09:32.05ZealotOnAStickpretty much, though I think you can still get mails or RSS?
09:32.07Arrowmasterjira is bugtracking, fish is the source browsing from trac, and cia is just most recent commit messages
09:32.18rhavezealot so is RoS really a cockblock of bt?
09:32.22ZealotOnAStickYou can tell how much I've bothered with actual usage of any of that crack.
09:32.37Arrowmasterive used fish already
09:32.44Arrowmasternot jira though
09:32.46pb_ee1hum so the automatic link to track on addons webpage should be changed
09:32.58pb_ee1ex: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Elephant
09:33.00ZealotOnAStickP3 of RoS is sort of tough.  We've had one night to play with P3 . . . we'll drop it this next raid week.  
09:33.09Arrowmasterno thats wiki link
09:33.15Arrowmasterwhich is still used
09:33.22rhaveso is learning RoS really like learning 3 bosses?
09:33.35ZealotOnAStickShahraz is sort of the cockblock in there, simply because of the SR needed.  Time needed to farm Hearts of Darkness, etc., though you can fudge with green stam/sr gear to some extent.
09:33.55ZealotOnAStickNot really IMO.  I think it's like any other multi-phase fight.
09:34.12ZealotOnAStickdefinitely easier than Kael'thas.
09:34.50pb_ee1Arrowmaster: talking about the TRAC link in the addon description on the right
09:34.53pb_ee1if trac is not used anymore, this link should be removed imo
09:35.11pb_ee1or changed to fish
09:35.21ZealotOnAStickRoS is pretty fun, IMO.
09:36.08ZealotOnAStickP3 is mainly just stupidly aggro sensitive, and it gets tough because it's a dps race, but your threat increases as it proceeds so you have to drop him quick but are able to do less damage progressively.
09:37.07ZealotOnAStickinteresting, if a bit pesky, mechanic.
09:37.17Grumwhich boss is that ZealotOnAStick ?
09:37.24Grumoh RoS :D
09:37.53Grumso ZealotOnAStick, do you still run SSC/TK? :)
09:37.58rhaveFUCKING EVERYTHING in hyjal and bt easier than kaelthas
09:38.00Nickenyfiken~libstub
09:38.16rhavekaelthas is biggest cockblock in entire game imo
09:38.31Grumso they'll likely nerf him
09:38.53ZealotOnAStickGrum: only for back-keying.  *mutter*
09:39.03GrumZealotOnAStick: and is it really easy then? :D
09:39.08Grumor do you still wipe on stupid bosses? :D
09:39.42ZealotOnAStickwe go and one-shot kael or vashj, and people fuck up and wipe us on Hydross or Leotheras.
09:39.57pb_ee1Is Jira reserved to only the main projects of wowace?
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09:40.00Grumhehe
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09:40.12Nickenyfikenpb_ee1: I don't think so.
09:40.21GrumZealotOnAStick: how much of it is gear and how much is 'been there done that'x1000 ?
09:40.40ZealotOnAStickBiggest single advice I can give for Hyjal: The Tauren Warriors fucking rock.
09:41.18Silviu-Hehe true
09:41.30Silviu-If they are dead u`r pretty dead too in waves at Azgalor ;)
09:41.38Nickenyfikenpb_ee1: Maybe you have to request to be in another group or something to be able to create a project
09:41.44ZealotOnAStickNah.  We've done it without them, it's just a lot harder.
09:41.58Xinhuanwrong. prot pallies own it up in hyjal
09:42.07Silviu-Especially wave 6 :/
09:42.11ZealotOnAStickReally much quicker and easier to get them there and let them do most of the work.  :)
09:42.12Silviu-Hate it ^^
09:42.27GrumWTB patch2.4
09:42.35ZealotOnAStickand I absolutely love tanking the Frost Wyrms.
09:42.49Silviu-Heh i make it too
09:42.52Silviu-Sometimes
09:42.57Silviu-Or sometimes a hunter do it
09:43.14rhavewhat is your main name zealotonastick
09:43.22Arrowmasterpb_ee1: check wiki page again
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09:43.26ZealotOnAStick!c us blackhand Tenebra
09:43.29ThraeBotZealotOnAStick: Tenebra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (44/0/17). 9990 HP; 8680 Mana; 114 mana regen; 150 spell crit; 211 spell hit; 998 +spell dmg/heal; 214 shadow dmg (1212); 4.68% dodge; 35 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1582 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2eu9u9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2phefl ][ Updated: Tue Sep 18 05:56:56 2007 EST ]]
09:43.35Arrowmasteri think i fixed it
09:43.48Silviu-!c eu gorgonnash Littleone
09:43.49rhavehmm
09:43.50ThraeBotSilviu-: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 9450 HP; 8260 Mana; 124 mana regen; 163 spell crit; 156 spell hit; 1145 +spell dmg; 110 shadow dmg (1255); 4.36% dodge; 42 resilience;[[ TBR: 1477 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmusz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mwlxh ][ Updated: Tue Sep 18 05:57:18 2007 EST ]]
09:43.59rhave!c us mal'ganis rhave
09:44.02ThraeBotrhave: Rhave, Level 70 Tauren Druid (1/46/14). 11155 HP; 6530 Mana; 127 mana regen; 6004 Armour; 736 AP; 134.100 Melee DPS; 16.68% melee crit; 38 melee hit; 44 +spell dmg; 77 +heal; 124 defense; 32.68% dodge; 26 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 857 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ysuej ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2larq8 ][ Updated: Tue Sep 18 05:57:29 2007 EST ]]
09:44.05rhavesiiick:'
09:44.07Silviu-i pwn u :P
09:44.37Silviu-i think i could need a lil more hit
09:44.59woden!c eu terenas woden
09:45.02ThraeBotwoden: Woden, Level 70 Tauren Druid (1/49/11). 15901 HP; 6290 Mana; 129 mana regen; 29604 Armour; 1702 AP; 194.000 Melee DPS; 30.96% melee crit; 26 melee hit; 82 +heal; 89 defense; 42.25% dodge; 81 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1288 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ccdl2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mwz6e ][ Updated: Tue Sep 18 05:58:29 2007 EST ]]
09:45.05ZealotOnAStickI've got a bit too much, to be honest.
09:45.14rhaveanyways gonna go to sleep, as much as  i love epeen waving
09:45.15ZealotOnAStickbut I don't want to bother re-gemming gear that I'm just waiting to replace.
09:45.41pb_ee1Hummm i don't understand a thing about Jira xD
09:45.43rhavehah woden, im soooo getting that badge of tenacity
09:45.52rhavei already put my bid
09:45.56rhave765 bid so far
09:45.58rhaveg
09:46.06wodenthats cheap nice one
09:46.16SunTsurhave, woden: What is the one point you put into resto?
09:46.34rhaveyeah hopefully ill get it today..  1 point is in balance, for natures grasp
09:46.54SunTsurhave: Ah, I see
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09:47.13rhaveits amazing against preists who are dispell crazy, or against rogues who, well like to be rooted
09:49.39Silviu-ZealotOnAStick give me your cloack and wand :P
09:49.50Silviu-They never drop at us
09:49.57Silviu-Cloack only 1 time
09:49.59Silviu-wand never
09:50.14mitch0will ace3 be ready before 2.2 is out?
09:50.20ZealotOnAStickHeh.  We've been getting about a cloak a week, once the first one dropped after like 3 weeks.
09:50.29ZealotOnAStickmitch0: oh no.
09:50.42Silviu-2.2 will hit next week i guess
09:50.44Elkanomost likely not since 2.2 could hit next week but we want to give Ace3 the proper testing
09:51.13mitch0okey
09:51.37ZealotOnAStickWe've had crap all for caster gear drop in BT the last like month solid.
09:51.43ZealotOnAStickor Hyjal for the matter.
09:51.48Adirelle|Workbtw, any new from CKK about using Callback stub in Rock ?
09:51.50Silviu-Need your raid :/
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09:52.15Silviu-At us so hard drops caster ...
09:52.23ZealotOnAStickLike top 15 of our dkp list is all dps casters, with the exceptions of a couple of priests and 1 rogue.
09:52.26Silviu-And when it drops it goes for huge amount of dkp
09:52.55ZealotOnAStickwhereas our one dps warrior is geared to the teeth.
09:52.58Silviu-We have high dkp too cause it won`t drop any caster things
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09:53.05Silviu-And when it drops ... go wayyyyy down :)
09:53.10ZealotOnAStickSilviu-: precisely.  Can't buy what doesn't drop.
09:53.25Silviu-Now i have ~500 dkp in Hyjal
09:53.30Silviu-When we down Archi
09:53.31Silviu-...
09:53.36Silviu-Guess how much i will have
09:53.37Silviu-:P
09:53.42art3mis6?
09:53.46Silviu-1
09:53.46Silviu-!
09:53.47Silviu-:D
09:53.57Silviu-I`ll bid all on that sword
09:54.10ZealotOnAStickprobably more, because he'll drop the other 2 set pieces, rogue chest, shaman or pally chest . . .
09:54.35Xinhuanthere is a theofy floating about that the wmage/lock/hunter T5 pieces drop less often because these 3 classes only have 1 set
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09:54.37baer_moin.
09:54.40Silviu-Yes i did not even think i`m so lucky to have sword on first kill :P
09:54.43Xinhuanwhile the other classes have multiple sets
09:54.48Xinhuantheory*
09:54.49ZealotOnAStickwe certainly didn't.
09:55.03Silviu-U had any ?
09:55.05Silviu-Till now
09:55.16ZealotOnAStickwe finally killed him first this sunday.
09:55.18nevcairielnot that the other classes use more then one set in the raid environment Xinhuan.. :)
09:55.21Silviu-Oh
09:55.23Silviu-Ok
09:55.28Xinhuanwell not exactly
09:55.36Xinhuanshamans and druids fulfill multiple roles
09:55.41ZealotOnAStickwe had to stop, go back and spend 2 weeks recruiting and rekeying.
09:55.41Xinhuanthey just have to stick to 1 role
09:55.51nevcairielyeah, they stick to 1 .. thats my point :)
09:55.56ZealotOnAStickend of summer/start of new college semesters lost us about 8 people.
09:56.04Xinhuanstill its an interesting theory
09:56.23ZealotOnAStickand we keep a fairly tight raid group without a lot of overage.
09:56.24Xinhuanwe haven't had mage T5 drop from leo in 7 weeks
09:56.26Xinhuanvashj in 5
09:56.29Xinhuanand kael in 2
09:56.36nevcairielwe are doing a rekeying week starting tomorrow, full SSC and TK .. we didnt do that like for ages..
09:57.10ZealotOnAStickwe're still looking for one more resto druid, we had one inform us sunday afternoon he wanted to step down from raiding.
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09:57.48ZealotOnAStickwasn't really happy about that, thought we were done with the paladin we just had transfer.
09:57.55nevcairielheh
09:58.04nevcairielwe're still looking for a new paladin
09:58.17nevcairieland a resto shaman
09:58.21ZealotOnAStickgood ones horde side seem hard to find, and harder to keep.
09:58.29ZealotOnAStickthey keep quitting the game.  :/
09:58.36nevcairiellol
09:58.42nevcairielgood that we are alliance
09:58.43vithosis there a way to use custom colors on sorren's timers?  the named one's just aren't cutting it.  04:57:31 Sorren's Timers: Color purple is not a valid color, skipping.
09:58.50nevcairielwe lose holy priests like that, tho
09:58.55nevcairielhad one quit the game last week
09:59.13nevcairielnot that it matters, they were over-staffed
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09:59.29ZealotOnAStickWe lost one recently because he decided with all the money he was spending on med school, he might as well devote the added time to do a good job of it.
09:59.41ZealotOnAStickbut it was pretty easy to recruit a replacement.
09:59.57ZealotOnAStickand the new guy has been cleaning up on BT/Hyjal non-set healing cloth.
10:00.21ZealotOnAStickreally good healer, really stupid character name.
10:00.25nevcairiellol
10:00.32nevcairiel"Iamyourhealer"?
10:00.36nevcairielwe have people like that
10:00.41ZealotOnAStickKdizzle.
10:00.55nevcairielheh
10:01.00nevcairielnot that bad
10:01.12nevcairielsounds weird when you try to speak it on vent i suppose
10:01.14ZealotOnAStickHe had a pretty cool name on the previous server, then changes it to that on transfer.
10:01.23ZealotOnAStickwe mock it a lot, so all is good.
10:01.55ZealotOnAStickour other two holy/disc priests have been with the guild for a long, long time, so we're solid there.
10:02.29Arrowmasterive seen much stupider names
10:02.31nevcairielonly class we're still not getting really good ones is shamans
10:02.43Arrowmasteri play on a release day pvp server
10:02.44nevcairielbut since we are alliance, i guess you can expect that
10:03.18ZealotOnAStickI play on a release day PvE server, Blackhand.  I've seen some doozies.
10:03.25ZealotOnAStickLike the NE Hunter named "Unique.
10:03.32ZealotOnAStickI was amused
10:03.41nevcairielrelease pve here too, so stupid sometimes.
10:03.51Arrowmaster"Ipwnbikes" "Yeahbikes" "Yaynoschool"
10:04.07nevcairielspecially when people create toons with really stupid names like that, and then decide to make it their main char
10:04.09SunTsu.o0( I like a Fire mage named "Frosta" )
10:04.14nevcairielyou end up with the weirdest names
10:04.35ZealotOnAStickHeh, I made a mage alt for amusement that I named Frostitute.
10:04.44nevcairiellol
10:04.48Arrowmasterwe really have a mage on the server named "Firemage"
10:04.55ZealotOnASticknot done anything with it . . .
10:05.00SunTsuArrowmaster: Ice mage? ;)
10:05.22Arrowmasterim not sure what spec he is
10:05.22Xinhuanwith have a human warrior on the server called Gnomerogue
10:05.26Xinhuanwe* have
10:05.34nevcairiellol
10:05.55Arrowmasterbut he made 3 copies to the ptr once and speced each one fully into a different tree
10:07.12pb_ee1what are the conditions to add some fonts to shared media?
10:07.25pb_ee1I mean, is there an official limit or should the user only be reasonnable?
10:07.38ZealotOnAStickWell, avoiding making it this huge thing would be nice.
10:07.47*** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be)
10:07.54ZealotOnAStickand they all need to be of a suitable license status.
10:08.39pb_ee1ho, licenses, true
10:09.11Xinhuanwhat liscence are common fonts like Arial and Times New Roman under?
10:09.14pb_ee1some fonts are not able to display correctly é à è É, ...
10:09.35ZealotOnAStickdepends which whose variant of said font is.
10:09.56CIA-2203wt * r49208 10GridStatusIncomingHeals/GridStatusIncomingHeals.lua:
10:09.56CIA-22GridStatusIncomingHeals:
10:09.56CIA-22- Utilise RosterLib rather than making own local cache of who's in raid
10:10.09baer_is there any way to stop "Skinner" skinning my "Cartographer"?
10:10.25Arrowmasterthe one found in your windows fonts folder is probably licensed and cant be used
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10:10.43Xinhuanyes, remove the cartographer.lua or something file from the SkinMe subfolder
10:11.03ZealotOnAStickthere may also be an option in the skinner menu to uncheck for Cart.  I'd have to log in to check.
10:11.09baer_Xinhuan: thx, will try it.
10:11.50pb_ee1ZealotOnAStick: fonts aren't loaded if they are not used in the UI, are they?
10:12.14Xinhuanfonts are loaded/created on demand i think
10:12.25ZealotOnAStickthat sounds like a good answer to me.
10:12.40Xinhuaneach font size you use generates a new font object for that size/outline/etc settings
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10:13.08pb_ee1ok
10:13.24pb_ee1so it's not a "real" problem if there are more fonts in shared media, except the size of the lib itself, obviously
10:13.37pb_ee1of the addon *
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10:14.09ZealotOnAStickwow still reads them in if they're in the toc or so forth.  I dunno what it does with them after that, though.
10:14.15Xinhuani think fonts can only be created in XML? i'm not sure on that
10:14.55pb_ee1i'm going to try a few fonts and see if they are nice enough to get into shared media, it'll be possible to remove them if there is a problem anyway. I'll be reasonable :P
10:15.09ZealotOnAStickI'm pretty sure fontstrings can be defined in just lua, but I could be wrong.
10:15.18pb_ee1there are much more textures than fonts atm
10:15.20Xinhuani said fonts, not fontstrings ;p
10:15.22sag_ich_nichtsomeone should put fixedsys excelsor into SharedMedia
10:15.32sag_ich_nichtbut otoh fixedsys excelsor is ~600 kb big
10:15.33sag_ich_nicht:X
10:15.35baer_Xinhuan: worked fine, thanks again.
10:15.42pb_ee1is it ironig sag_ich_nicht?
10:16.30sag_ich_nichthttp://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/
10:16.32ZealotOnAStickcould always make your own separate shared media extension for that or other _HugeMultiLangFont_
10:17.11pb_ee1"What’s most important to know is that Fixedsys Excelsior will only display correctly at 16 pixels, which is the same as 12 point on a PC." --> http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/information.htm
10:17.35pb_ee1True, Zealot
10:17.53sag_ich_nichtZealotOnAStick: i know, i was kidding
10:19.06Arrowmasteroh god that font fucking fails on so many levels
10:19.15Arrowmasterdoesnt even support underlining
10:19.30art3misgood god HKUI is up to 598 downloads
10:20.00ZealotOnAStickone of the druids in my guild is using parts of it.  *shakes head*
10:20.06art3misreally?
10:20.13ZealotOnAStickyeah, hold on a moment.
10:20.15art3misthe cycircled part?
10:20.53Xinhuan*waits for pokemon version*
10:21.01Xinhuanwith pikachu ears
10:21.26sag_ich_nicht[12:19] <Arrowmaster> doesnt even support underlining <--uh, it does
10:21.27art3misheh ill do that one uip next ;P
10:21.31pb_ee1I'm going to create an addon called SharedMediaAdditionnalFonts
10:21.40art3miscycircled doesnt have enough "options"
10:21.44sag_ich_nichtyou probably didn't download 3.01 but tried the 2.0 version from somewhere that had a bug in the underlining function
10:21.46pb_ee1Based on SharedMedia, obviously
10:21.46Arrowmasterit does? the version i have installed doesnt
10:22.02ZealotOnAStickhttp://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff75/frosty110_2007/hellokittyuipic.jpg?t=1190017433
10:22.22Arrowmasterah yeah i think ive got the 2.0
10:22.42art3misZealotOnAStick: hehe tell him to get the updated version and the layout and eepanels look better ;P
10:23.03art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg
10:23.10Arrowmasterbut still making a font that only has a 16pt size but is really a 12pt size compared to other fonts is just silly
10:23.22art3misthe merchant frame isnt included
10:24.06ArrowmasterMY EYES!
10:24.27Stan_o m f g
10:24.33art3misheh
10:24.42sag_ich_nichtuhm
10:24.45sag_ich_nichtArrowmaster
10:24.49art3misthats what you get for clicking links without thinking ;P
10:24.50sag_ich_nichtyou are confusing pixels with points
10:24.56sag_ich_nichtand you are confusing mac with pc
10:25.24Stan_that's like the ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
10:26.25CartasThat's a great UI.
10:26.26art3misno way its pretty
10:26.36Arrowmasteri have the 2.0 version of that font installed, if i use 11pt it looks exactly the same as fixedsys 9pt, same exact size too
10:26.43cryogensweet
10:26.45CartasYou have that UI installed, did you saY?
10:26.45cryogenpink <3
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10:28.21Grumomg that pink ui is scary!
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10:29.12Grumis that pink-ui eepanels only?
10:29.31Stan_nah, Hello Kitty CyCircled
10:29.43Stan_and Skinner textures i guess
10:29.52Grummm what's that elegant scrolling quest-addon on the left?
10:29.55Grumerrrm right
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10:31.52art3misit's eepanels yeah, and hello kitty cycircled
10:32.09Grumand the quest-scrolling-tiny-window on the right? :)
10:32.17art3misthe quest thingy is the detached QuestFu panel
10:32.39art3misno the detached tooltip, the detached module
10:32.41art3miserr not
10:32.58art3misand nothing to do with skinner btw
10:33.07art3miscuz skinner is a useless piece of crap
10:33.40ZealotOnASticknight all.
10:33.44art3mislates zealot
10:34.18Grumart3mis: so what's a nice skinner replacement? :D
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10:34.53charonmorning guys
10:34.55CartasNothing?
10:34.57CartasGood morning, old chap!
10:38.43nevcairielCIA-22 is slacking
10:40.08CIA-2203nevcairiel 072.2 * r49209 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: added very simple support for the reputation bar, i still recommend using a standalone reputation mod.
10:40.08CIA-2203nevcairiel 072.2 * r49210 10Bartender3/Bartender3/CHANGELOG.txt: Bartender3: updated changelog
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10:46.26orionshockAntiarc: ping
10:48.49ramozGrum!
10:49.05ramoznoes!
10:49.07Grumdone nothing on it :(
10:49.11Grumno time etc
10:49.15ramozah
10:49.16ramozok
10:49.23Grumhad to fix stuff on the dkp site - ever seen the eqdkp code?
10:49.32ramozno, and i rather not :O
10:49.38nevcairielyou live a happier life if you didnt
10:49.39Grumit's like death mixed with babies
10:49.44ramozreally?
10:49.51ramozsounds terrible
10:50.25Punkie`eqdkp is ridiculously vunerable to attacks as well
10:51.36Punkie`had to password protect the directory so we don't get sql injections of iframes
10:52.43Xinhuanno idea what that means Punkie` ;p
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10:55.15art3misgrum: my main issues with skinner is that solid  colours or gradiented colours ARE NOT skins, the fact taht you can't texture is also a touch retarded. as of yet aside from actually editting the blps there arent any "skinning" addons unless you go out of your way to place eepanel overlays in the extract spots of the popups ;P
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10:57.15Xinhuanthat's really just arguing what a "skin" is though
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10:57.48art3misand thats mainly my issue with it
10:57.57Xinhuan~wiki skin (computing)
10:58.19Xinhuanok not very good
10:58.22art3misheh
10:58.24Xinhuani'll paste the first paragraph
10:58.26XinhuanIn computing, skins may be associated with themes as custom graphical appearances (GUIs) that can be applied to certain software and websites in order to suit the different tastes of different users. However, a "skin" is also used as slang for a texture applied on a player character of a video game.
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10:58.46art3misa "skin" is also used as slang for a texture applied on a  <---
10:58.55Xinhuan"Skinning" software is referred to as being skinnable, and the process of writing or applying such a skin is known as skinning. Applying a skin changes a piece of software's look and feel — some skins merely make the program more aesthetically pleasing, but others can rearrange elements of the interface, potentially making the program easier to use.
10:59.07Xinhuan<---- applying a skin changes the "look and feel"
10:59.08art3misa solid colour to me anyways even if its got gradient shading isn't a skin
10:59.22Xinhuanand that's all that is to skinning - anything that modifies "look and feel" is skinning
10:59.53art3misits raelly a moot personal point though
11:00.05art3misi dont believe skinner is worth anything
11:00.09art3misothers do
11:00.32art3missup to them but to me skinning/themeing are one in the same and do more than just colour variations
11:00.55art3mis"yeah man i skinned my bike they other day, it's blue now!"
11:00.55RagowitWhat's the difference between Parser-3.0 and LibParser-4.0? And which addon(s) are currently using 4.0?
11:01.00art3mis;)
11:01.21XinhuanRagowit: i believe parrot 1.0 uses 4.0, but don't quote me on that
11:01.33Xinhuan4.0 supposedly makes 3.0 and 1.1 obsolete
11:01.51RagowitAllright
11:02.04RagowitIt's basicly "much more better then 3.0"? :)
11:02.16Elkanowouldn't say so
11:02.27art3misits got an incremental number up from 3.0 it has to be ;P
11:02.31Ragowit:P
11:02.47Xinhuan4.0 is merely updated to allow it to work with both Ace2 and Rock i think?
11:02.56RagowitAnd what's Rock?
11:02.57Xinhuanso it really has no functional difference
11:03.03art3mis~rock
11:03.04purlfrom memory, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight.  More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon shout it out, or what we're going to do to blow your hair to the back of the auditorium.
11:03.04XinhuanRock is a framework, much like Ace2
11:03.41RagowitAhaa
11:03.42art3mis~touch xinhuan
11:03.43purlThis is Fendor's pleasure only
11:03.51Xinhuansorry art3mis
11:03.52Xinhuan:)
11:03.56art3misboooo!
11:04.01Wobin_~touch art3mis
11:04.01purlThis is Fendor's pleasure only
11:04.04Xinhuan~slap art3mis
11:04.04purlACTION slaps art3mis, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
11:04.07Wobin_Man, that Fendor gets around
11:04.20art3mis~poke xinhuan
11:04.21purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind xinhuan, pokes xinhuan repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
11:04.42Xinhuan~~~~
11:04.43purlARGH!!! STOP IT xinhuan!!!
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11:05.03sag_ich_nicht~~~
11:05.04purlI HATE YOU, sag_ich_nicht!!!
11:05.04art3misman i should really stop smorking
11:05.24art3misat least until i can breathe properly again
11:05.35Xinhuan~123456789*987654321
11:05.36purl121932631112635264
11:05.40IxanI'm getting some errors with Fubar, anyone able to take a look at it?
11:05.44Smeagoulwhat was discussion ? Just woke up -.-
11:05.52Xinhuani believe that's the wrong answer from purl
11:05.57Xinhuanbecause 9 x 1 = 9
11:06.03Xinhuanthe answer should end with a 9 ;p
11:06.13art3misit rounded to a fixed amount of places ;P
11:06.18Tornhoofye
11:06.26art3misor got truncated
11:06.29mitch0121932631112635269
11:06.36Xinhuanweak
11:07.33art3mishe woke up afk?
11:07.37art3misneat
11:07.44Xinhuangreat lets all poke him
11:07.47Xinhuan~poke Shirik|AFK
11:07.47purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Shirik|AFK, pokes Shirik|AFK repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
11:07.48mitch0it's off by 5. kinda strange
11:07.51art3mis~poke Shirik|AFK
11:07.52purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Shirik|AFK, pokes Shirik|AFK repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
11:08.04art3mismaybe he's sleep coding
11:08.25Xinhuanlua> 123456789*987654321
11:08.26cladbotXinhuan: 1.2193263111264e+17
11:08.27Smeagoulho woke up afk ?
11:08.31sag_ich_nichtyou're doing it wrong
11:08.36sag_ich_nicht~stab Shirik|AFK
11:08.36purlACTION runs at Shirik|AFK with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
11:08.39Xinhuanappears that purl (int) the number
11:08.48Xinhuanand didn't care about the e+17 part
11:08.49Grumwould have been nice btw if ckknight actually tested his rock-conversions of pitbull/cartographer before pushing them out ..
11:08.56Grumhaving errors on-load just completely sucks
11:09.23sag_ich_nichtGrum he did.
11:09.24sag_ich_nichtyou suck
11:09.26sag_ich_nichtread the topic
11:09.32Grumwhich one?
11:09.36sag_ich_nicht/topic #wowace
11:09.38sag_ich_nichtthat one.
11:09.49sag_ich_nichtnow upgrade your WAU, reinstall your addons and STFU
11:10.03Grumreinstall?
11:10.16sag_ich_nichtand yes, i have to be so unfriendly, it's what you get for not updating your WAU in forever.
11:10.24Grumyou just mean 'update' right?
11:10.34Grumi reinstalled my windows the day before yesterday
11:10.39Grumand thus got a fresh WAU as well
11:10.47sag_ich_nichtwell
11:10.55Grumso whats up with 'reinstall' ?
11:10.57sag_ich_nichtif it's not 1.9.44 or 2.0 then you need to update it.
11:10.59sag_ich_nichtreinstall
11:11.02sag_ich_nichtis a function in WAU
11:11.22sag_ich_nichtto reinstall all current addons, deleting the old folders of them and repulling all dependencies
11:11.24Grumcould i get some background why it's needed ? :D
11:11.30Grumah .. dependencies
11:11.35Shirik|AFKAwesome! So I’m dowloading this new game, beta test, right?
11:11.42sag_ich_nichtah
11:11.48sag_ich_nichti guess you can't tell us which beta
11:11.56Shirik|AFKAt the end of the install, it pops up a message, it says “You are missing an important windows update. Install now?”
11:11.57sag_ich_nichtbut guess the beta application JUST started earlier
11:11.57art3mislistening to sag talks makes me thing of the weaselly bully side kicks that say "yeah!" and "so there!" when the bully talks.
11:11.58sag_ich_nichtrite
11:11.59sag_ich_nicht:O
11:12.13Shirik|AFKSo I click yes, and it takes me to a microsoft site.
11:12.26Shirik|AFKThe article associated with it says this:
11:12.54Shirik|AFK“Every memory allocation, file mapping, or library that is loaded by an application consumes space in this virtual address space. When the application consumes all its virtual address space, any additional such operations fail. Although all applications should be coded to handle memory allocation failures, many applications do not recover correctly from such failures. Therefore, the programs may become unstable or stop responding after th
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11:13.05Shirik|AFKAnd that this update is a fix for that failure
11:13.19sag_ich_nichtoh really
11:13.20Shirik|AFKSo basically what they were saying is “We’re lazy, so use this update to fix our crappy programming”
11:13.22sag_ich_nichtlink me that update.
11:13.41art3miswhat beta?
11:13.45Tornhoofnah shirik
11:13.47Shirik|AFKIt’s a DX10 thing: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105
11:13.48sag_ich_nichtbecause i might be having that problem, and i bet the damn fucking update isn't in windows update.
11:13.54sag_ich_nichtoh
11:13.55sag_ich_nichtvista?
11:13.55Shirik|AFKafaict
11:13.57Shirik|AFKyes
11:13.58Tornhoofthat applies to programmers using their libs
11:14.03Tornhoofnot to them
11:14.09Shirik|AFKoh
11:14.11Shirik|AFKso Microsoft was being lazy
11:14.13sag_ich_nichtvista.
11:14.33Tornhoofyeh
11:14.39sag_ich_nicht[13:11] <art3mis> listening to sag talks makes me thing of the weaselly bully side kicks that say "yeah!" and "so there!" when the bully talks. <--why?
11:14.51art3miswhen yer trying to be mean ;P
11:14.59sag_ich_nichti'm not
11:15.04art3misim not sure why thats just the vibe i get
11:15.08sag_ich_nichtif i was trying to be mean it'd sound different.
11:15.16Shirik|AFKYeah!
11:15.27art3mis~rimshot
11:15.28purlba-dum CHH
11:15.32Smeagoulhm, wonder what will happen when you get mean
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11:15.44sag_ich_nichtShirik|AFK so does that mean you're my sidekick now?
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11:16.07art3mishis mom will take away the computer for a week and make him read books after he throws his keyboard around his room ;)
11:16.25Shirik|AFKHis meanness factor will increase which will cause the energy radiated by his intensity to exceed that of light, which will result in him collapsing on himself producing a quantum singularity and destroying the earth
11:16.32Shirik|AFKOr essentially making it infintesimally small
11:16.35Shirik|AFKone of the two
11:16.47Shirik|AFKNobody really knows what goes on inside a black hole so, maybe it’s all the same
11:16.50art3missmaller than he is now?
11:16.54Shirik|AFKBut according to einstein, time would stop
11:16.55sag_ich_nichtart3mis if were to throw my keyboard around my house, the walls would get holes
11:16.58sag_ich_nichtconsidering it's a model m
11:16.59sag_ich_nicht:X
11:16.59krka_if we're lucky, the collapse will be limited to our own galaxy
11:17.02Smeagoulshirik, can you translate that to normal english ?
11:17.04krka_that's a relief, doc
11:17.19sag_ich_nichtShirik|AFK
11:17.26sag_ich_nichtat least use non-madeup technobabble :(
11:17.32Smeagoulbtw, Wall of text cirts Smeagoul for 942195. Smeagoul dies.
11:17.34Shirik|AFKHey
11:17.38Shirik|AFKmost of that is possible
11:17.45sag_ich_nichtbs
11:17.46grom358hey.. has FuBar been fixed yet?
11:17.46Shirik|AFKIf your meanness factor were able to generate energy
11:17.55grom358and Pitbull for that matter
11:17.58sag_ich_nichtthe intensity part is BS, tho.
11:18.11art3misexcept for the part about exceedign light ;P
11:18.12Shirik|AFKintensity being the amount of meanness you contain :P
11:18.38Shirik|AFKnegative. My argument is that his meanness factor already produces energy equivalent to light, which is the theoretical maximum
11:18.43art3misalthough maybe he's already collapsed
11:18.51art3mishe is incredibly dense sometimes ;P
11:19.06Shirik|AFKSo if he were to become “mean” this would result in him exceeding this threshold
11:19.11sag_ich_nichtbut the intensity is in a superstate, Shirik|AFK
11:19.35sag_ich_nichtexactly because of that
11:19.57CIA-22ow
11:19.57Shirik|AFKSmeagoul: Should have used SW_FixLogStrings imo
11:20.42sag_ich_nichtlol.
11:21.11orionshockcia is a interactive bot?
11:21.15Shirik|AFKoh! I see what this update is now!
11:21.19art3mishttp://www.pithed.org/oink/cds.jpg
11:21.23Shirik|AFKorionshock: Only the kick part
11:21.44Shirik|AFKThis update is a “DX10 tried to fix lazy programmers, but in doing it, we also managed to break any computer with multiple graphics cards”
11:21.45nevcairielit has more functions!
11:21.55Shirik|AFKhuh I never saw that before
11:22.49nevcairielbut its still slacking and not reporting my commit
11:23.26Shirik|AFKthat’s because it saw it and was like “well that’s crap. maybe if I don’t report it, nobody will update and they’ll all be better off”
11:23.43Shirik|AFKJust a theory
11:23.59Shirik|AFKAnyway I was supposed to be AFK 20 minutes ago and you all distracted me
11:26.00orionshockawww... no love?
11:26.06orionshockLOL
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11:27.25orionshockping grom358
11:28.41art3mishttp://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-exploits/47435-opera-event-exploit.html
11:29.24Xinhuanexploitz zomg?
11:29.39Diaobah
11:29.42Diaodailies reset at 4am
11:29.52Diaoi missed the deadline by 10 min on my netherwing quests :(
11:36.51CIA-2203ominous * r49212 10Tattle/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer
11:37.45CIA-2203pb_ee1 * r49213 10SharedMediaAdditionnalFonts/: SharedMediaAdditionnalFonts: Creating folder.
11:37.46Smeagoul!vs eu Kor'gall Smeagoul eu Jaedenar Revontulet
11:37.51ThraeBotSmeagoul: Smeagoul vs Revontulet! A L70 hunter and a L70 shaman square off!; 0/45/16 vs 44/5/11; Smeagoul wins by 322 TBRs!
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11:40.09nevcairielhm it really skipped my commit
11:40.10nevcairielstupid cia
11:40.51sag_ich_nichtArrowmaster: http://www.fixedsysexcelsior.com/information/scripts.gif
11:40.52sag_ich_nicht:P
11:41.57sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel
11:42.19sag_ich_nicht[12:40] <CIA-22> nevcairiel 2.2 * r49209 Bartender3/Bartender3/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: added very simple support for the reputation bar, i still recommend using a standalone reputation mod.
11:42.20sag_ich_nicht[12:40] <CIA-22> nevcairiel 2.2 * r49210 Bartender3/Bartender3/CHANGELOG.txt: Bartender3: updated changelog
11:42.23sag_ich_nichtthat commit? :P
11:42.29nevcairielnah
11:42.31nevcairielone later
11:42.35sag_ich_nicht><
11:42.51sag_ich_nichtit's lagging.
11:42.53CIA-22ow
11:43.10sag_ich_nichtsee?
11:46.33mitch0darn. our proxy died ;(
11:48.14CIA-2203nevcairiel 072.2 * r49214 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3.lua Options.lua): Bartender3: add options to the special bars to disable them completly, saving one frame and some hooking mechanics!
11:48.14CIA-2203pb_ee1 * r49215 10SharedMediaAdditionnalFonts/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
11:48.14CIA-22SharedMediaAdditionnalFonts:
11:48.14CIA-22- Initial commit.
11:48.14CIA-22- Please read the comments in Core.lua if you want to add your own font.
11:48.18CIA-22- Based on MyMedia code (from SharedMedia).
11:48.22CIA-2203nevcairiel 072.2 * r49216 10Bartender3/Bartender3/CHANGELOG.txt: Bartender3: forgot changelog again
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11:48.50Grumsag_ich_nicht: lol .. nice console font ;D
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11:50.32zxcvis it better if you spell it "additional"?  or is this some in-joke
11:52.08art3misheh
11:52.30art3mishey nev
11:52.58nevcairiel?
11:53.03art3missince you've got a stance bar is it possible to add preconfigured class bars? like pally and shaman bars?
11:53.34art3mislike so i dont have to populate them myself they just do it automagically?
11:53.52nevcairielpallys have a aura bar, aka stancebar
11:53.56nevcairielwhat should a shaman bar be ? :o
11:54.07art3misearth wind fire water ;P
11:54.32art3misdo they really have a aura bar in bt3?
11:54.37art3misnever noticed it
11:54.54omega_its like the stance bar for warrior and shape bar for druid
11:54.59omega_a bit smaller buttons by default
11:55.02art3misoh
11:55.07art3misneat
11:55.23art3misnevcairiel: shaman bar for bt would just be built in yata ;P
11:55.23nevcairielblizzard stuffs the auras into that bar
11:55.27nevcairieli only copy what blizzard does
11:55.30art3misoh
11:55.36art3misokay nm then
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11:56.21Studenthi
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11:58.58JoshBorke~whalenuke sag_ich_nicht
11:58.59purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around sag_ich_nicht with his mind powers
11:58.59nevcairiel~lart JoshBorke
11:58.59purlflings poo at JoshBorke
11:59.11JoshBorketrying to get me before i wake up i see
11:59.17nevcairielhehe
11:59.20nevcairielalways!
12:00.35JoshBorkeso has the whole rock fiasco settled down?
12:01.29SirowHow do I get those automated revision numbers in my toc/lua?
12:01.38sag_ich_nicht~whaleparry JoshBorke
12:01.38purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry JoshBorke's attacks.
12:01.52JoshBorkeSirow: you set the svn:keyword to $Rev$ and then that's what you put in the file
12:02.16sag_ich_nichtJoshBorke gieb quartz support
12:02.19sag_ich_nichtor i will hurt you
12:02.33vhaarrJoshBorke: "Rev" works fine, I've never set the property to "$Rev$"
12:02.42JoshBorkevhaarr: what you said
12:02.48vhaarrbut you use $Rev$ in the file
12:02.59JoshBorkeSirow: what rabbit said, he's smarter than me
12:03.06JoshBorkesag_ich_nicht: man, that means i have to look at code ands hit
12:03.26sag_ich_nichtQQ more, bitch
12:03.27Sirowthx alot :)
12:03.29sag_ich_nicht<3
12:03.41dodgaI'm scared to run WoW after the whole Rock/Pitbull/Cowtip/FuBar/Cartographer ninja update action :p
12:03.49vhaarrI just had a cup of coffee, that's why I know this stuff, the effect will wear off in a few minutes
12:03.50mitch0this guy wins: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7531-20100.2%20Beta.html
12:03.50JoshBorkeninja update?
12:04.10dodgaJoshBorke: ckk switched from Ace2 to Rock, no?
12:04.12JoshBorkehow would any change NOT be a ninja update?  was ckknight supposed to email everyone telling them it was going to happen?
12:04.30JoshBorkeeven if he posted a forum thread on it, there still would have been many people who don't check teh forums
12:04.34dodgaIt was kinda sudden and all
12:05.08SirowPitbull "rocks" now?
12:05.35JoshBorke~lart sirow
12:05.35purldecapitates sirow conan the destroyer style
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12:06.14JoshBorkegd nymbia
12:06.23JoshBorkestupid quartz uses nameless frames with hard to find references
12:06.49JoshBorkesag_ich_nicht: you just want it on the player cast bar, right?
12:07.06sag_ich_nichtyuppyupp
12:07.14sag_ich_nichtbut feel free to add extra functionality
12:07.33sag_ich_nichtand i suggest you take a look at fluidframes if you have a problem with finding the frames quartz creates :P
12:08.01dodgalet's see how much is broken in my UI...
12:08.11JoshBorkei can figure it out myself dillhole :-P
12:08.24sag_ich_nichtdodga if there is anything broken, your WAU is outdated and thus you suck :P
12:08.31sag_ich_nichtJoshBorke i don't believe it!
12:08.39JoshBorkefine, i just won't do it!
12:08.51sag_ich_nichtwait
12:08.55sag_ich_nicht~lart JoshBorke
12:08.55purldumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on JoshBorke
12:08.59sag_ich_nichtyes you will D:
12:09.07JoshBorkelol
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12:10.23JoshBorkehrm, i'm gonna have to make some changes to my code :-/
12:11.09JoshBorkethis sucks
12:11.41dodgasag_ich_nicht: Actually, nothing is borked, as I always update to the newest WAU :P
12:11.49dodgaAlso, I keep backups, so nyaaa .P
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12:13.05SirowWhat are the last words of a System Administrator: "WTF are backups?" :P
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12:14.15dodgaOkay so Pitbull now uses 100kb memory less but I have LibRock with ~900kb... :o
12:14.37dodgaSirow: I had like 1 crash on my server, after which I immediately installed a daily fullbackup ;o
12:14.57dodgaBut I did not learn from the HD crash on my laptop.. still no backups at home :D
12:15.33Sirowdodga: I once screwed my guilds mysql server, luckily all my backups where corrupted *OWNED* ^^
12:15.38dodgahrhr
12:16.51JoshBorkeok done
12:18.56JoshBorkesag_ich_nicht: http://svn.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/trunk/SimulCast
12:19.29SirowGEEEEEEEK
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12:22.30JoshBorkeSirow: yes, that would be me
12:22.44JoshBorkesag_ich_nicht: test, let me know if you get bugs or it doesn't work
12:23.18sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=771320267&postId=9119892682&sid=1#52
12:23.19sag_ich_nichtam i right or am i right
12:23.25sag_ich_nichtJoshBorke: i'll test that when i get home
12:23.28sag_ich_nichtam at work atm
12:23.28sag_ich_nicht:P
12:23.36JoshBorke~lart sag_ich_nicht
12:23.36purldrops a baby grand on sag_ich_nicht
12:23.39JoshBorkeman you're whiny
12:23.40sag_ich_nicht:P
12:23.44JoshBorkeat least it only took like 5 minutes
12:23.52JoshBorkei need to rewrite simulcast, the code is crap
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12:24.45Stan__rewrite..WoW...the code is crap
12:24.47Smeagoulis there any addon which adds an bar for addon icons ?
12:25.40Gngsktry asking that question again in a clearer fashion
12:25.50Smeagoulalright..
12:26.22JoshBorkeFuBar takes FuBar icons and lets you place them on a bar
12:26.51SmeagoulIs there a nice person who would share his knowledge and tell me the name of an addon which adds an bar for addon icons ?      (happy now ? )
12:27.03Gngsk:o
12:27.05Smeagoul(minimap icons)
12:27.10Gngskokay
12:27.11JoshBorkeno, the confusing part is the "which adds on bar for addon icons"
12:27.13Gngskthat's what I was wondering about
12:27.20Gngsktry checking this out
12:27.22Gngskhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7281-TidyMinimap.html
12:27.30JoshBorkeso you mean:  an addon which lets you take minimap icons and place them all on a separate bar?
12:27.38Smeagoulyeah
12:27.55nevcairielwtb!
12:27.59GngskI thought that's what you meant, but I wasn't sure. The minimap thing was what I was looking for.
12:28.40CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r49217 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/LICENSE.txt: Cartographer_nnTrainers: Add license file.
12:28.41JoshBorke~lart nevcairiel
12:28.41purlruns at nevcairiel with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut
12:28.45JoshBorkenevcairiel: write one yourself
12:28.53nevcairieli am lazy :(
12:29.16sag_ich_nichtas can be seen when one looks at the BT3 code.
12:29.21JoshBorkethat's the understatement of the year
12:29.41JoshBorkethere is also this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6764-MinimapButtonBag.html
12:29.45nevcairielwhen i code, i do it well, but it takes alot of motivation to get me there .P
12:30.03JoshBorkeok nev
12:30.06JoshBorkeyou can do it nev!
12:30.08JoshBorkethat's great nev!
12:30.11JoshBorkekeep up teh good work!
12:30.13nevcairieldo what?
12:30.13JoshBorkeyay nev!
12:30.18JoshBorkemotivation :_D
12:30.24Smeagoulhmm, this is a much better one JoshBorke :)
12:30.51nevcairieli like the idea of fubar, i just dont like what has come out of it now
12:31.43Gngskbut it's so simple!
12:35.50NickenyfikenWhat is simple?
12:36.01Gngskfubar
12:36.06JoshBorkebut it sure is fubar
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12:36.50Gngskpoobar
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12:43.27Nickenyfikenassert(count(Rock zmog threads) == 9999999992734893248)
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12:49.15grom358whats the go with this rock thing now?
12:50.37grom358any druids here?
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12:52.12frophallo
12:52.32grom358hello
12:52.38fropwhere could i find "prat"? googlecode revision is 2....and it's empty :P
12:52.50JoshBorkefrop: wowace.com
12:52.56fropshould i take it from files.wowace.com?
12:53.00fropooook
12:53.03fropthx
12:53.08grom358or use an updater like jwowupdater
12:53.19frop<PROTECTED>
12:53.39fropgrom358: using WUU under linux for now...works well enought seems
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12:54.34grom358JoshBorke: is fubar still broken from last night?
12:54.46JoshBorkegrom358: shouldn't be
12:54.57JoshBorkegrom358: as the topic says, make sure to use the right version of WAU
12:55.26fropjust logged in, and FuBar seems to works well enought
12:56.03grom358my pitbull also getting errors about druid mana bar when I log into druid
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12:57.53KeyaI had to jump through several hoops this morning to get my UI to work again due to Rock, LibJoole (?)
12:58.20kenlyricthat doesn't even make any sense.
12:58.36grom358i deleted all my saved variables, and FuBar was overlapping instead of allocating layout space for itself last night
12:59.59Keyaeven a "reinstall all addons" didn't pickup all dependencies for FuBar and Cartographer
13:00.14kenlyricI mean, I get how rock might break the addon, but I don't see how it can mess up your UI. Just revert to an old version.
13:00.56Keyawell it didn't mess it up, fubar simply stopped working due to rock not being installed?
13:01.00kenlyrickeya, which libs is it missing?
13:01.02grom358what's with this rock thing btw?
13:01.34kenlyrichmmmm... rock should install if you're using embedded libs or the proper version of wau.
13:02.01kenlyricgrom358: one of the replacements for Ace2, ck's version.
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13:03.11JoshBorkeit is NOT a replacement for Ace2
13:03.19kenlyric"one of
13:03.24kenlyricthe other being Ace3
13:03.31kenlyric(and maybe others I haven't heard about)
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13:04.19JoshBorkei don't think of either of them as replacements but rather successors
13:05.16Keyaafai can remember, Cartographer was missing LibTourist and something else...
13:05.21kenlyricoh. I was using those terms interchangeably, which I guess isn't exactly accurate.
13:05.28SunTsu.o0( I really would like to test if fubar ist working, alone, my internet connection at home is down... )
13:05.50pb_ee1http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8501.0
13:06.04Keya& Fubar war missing some LibRockLocale
13:09.09mark4_is the author of mobinf-2 in here?
13:09.21kenlyricawwww. trainer tracking got removed from trainerfu.
13:09.29kenlyricwhich i guess is good since it was horked. but awww.
13:13.26Pheredhelwho do I have to talk to, to get a project created in jira ?
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13:13.43Pheredhelthanks
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13:19.32Nickenyfikenkenlyric: Cartographer_nnTrainers is the same as trainer notes in TrainerFu
13:19.40kenlyricI know.
13:20.04kenlyricbut that means I have to get it, train it with new things, etc. Not end of the world. Just awww.
13:20.47NickenyfikenNo, like i wrote before i will write a import note function.
13:22.27kenlyricoh, I see, it's a new mod... the "nn" wasn't a typo. :)
13:23.02NickenyfikenCartographer_Trainers is already taken and i couldn't come up with something better :-P
13:24.24orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8492.msg139453#msg139453
13:24.37orionshocki give it a few hours before this thread is flamed out or locked...
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13:25.58CIA-2203jerry * r49218 10Talented_Data/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
13:25.58CIA-22Talented_Data:
13:25.58CIA-22_ Revert the naming of cached tables.
13:25.58CIA-22_ Regenerate using the new format. That's on average 10% less memory taken by the data set, depending on locale.
13:28.27Industrial~botmail for kergoth Could you please use the 1.1 tag of dongle in PerfBlock? It's causing me headaches with the donglestub upgrading thing.
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13:29.54kenlyricNickenyfiken: what's wrong with cart_trainers?
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13:30.20kenlyricis it broken again with trainerfu installed?
13:30.40NickenyfikenNo it's not broken
13:31.05NickenyfikenCartographer_Trainers is just... different i guess
13:31.21kenlyricside by side comparison, to the DEATH! ;)
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13:36.11NickenyfikenTrainers has just one type of icon as far as i know
13:36.15NickenyfikenAnd no filters
13:36.30NickenyfikenBut i may be wrong since it was a while since i tried it.
13:37.25orionshockhehe.... i am still amazed at the arrogance of the stranger on the fourms, whining and complaining and demanding that things be put back the way they want. to be appeased with what is familiar.... community .... Ha ; more like unstable lynch mob waiting for a good reason.
13:37.33orionshockwell good night everyone
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13:38.19NickenyfikenOh Trainers got filters hmm, missed that
13:39.06NickenyfikenYou should need atleast 100 posts to create a new topic on forum
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13:41.34Adirelle|WorkNickenyfiken: 100 well-rated posts :D
13:42.01Nickenyfikenhehe yeah
13:42.16NickenyfikenAnd you should need 50 posts to make a post :-P
13:42.25Adirelle|WorkYEAH ! er... wait
13:43.13Adirelle|Workbtw, why has poster rating be removed a few month ago ?
13:43.14Pkekyog'mornin all
13:43.24Adirelle|Works/be/been/
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13:47.38NickenyfikenAdirelle|Work: too much trouble and flaming and stuff.
13:47.55Mikkah booh i missed counterflaming orion
13:48.09Mikkthe obvious response would be "well dur someone should have created a new fork maybe?"
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14:01.22HjalteAnything special about the Plaguewood tower when you want to take it?
14:02.21NickenyfikenWhat tower is that? One of those in PlaguelandS?
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14:07.43kenlyricNickenyfiken: oh, nntrainers is much superior.
14:07.53kenlyricclass/prof icons ftw
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14:08.22Adirelle|Workactually, I really hesitate to update
14:08.30Adirelle|WorkI'm kinda scared
14:08.31cc-workwhats wrong with using an older version of WAU??
14:08.34NickenyfikenYa, Mikma made those for TrainerFu ^^
14:08.53kenlyriccc-work: think about that for a second.
14:08.55mikma:)
14:09.21kenlyricthat's odd.
14:09.28kenlyricNeither one picked up the first aid trainer.
14:09.29NickenyfikenIt's kinda funny, everyone that use WAU wants to use the bleeding edge versions of addons but refuse to use the latest version of WAU :-P
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14:09.42Adirelle|Workright
14:10.07Adirelle|Workbtw, I *really* dislike the ClickOnce thingy
14:10.29cc-workkenlyric: i dont notice a difference
14:10.51Adirelle|Workcc-work: if you ever do, just update to latest version before asking for help
14:10.55kenlyriccc-work: why do people *usually* say to use an up-to-date version of software.
14:11.46cc-workupdated version gets bloated.
14:11.54cc-worklook at firefox 3.0
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14:11.58cc-workfuck that..use firefox 1.1
14:12.04cc-worksaves u a ton of memory
14:12.15PkekyoOpera = win
14:12.36CartasI'd use Opera if they just made one simple change...!
14:12.47Pkekyohaven't been getting more bloated for each release for fucking ages
14:12.50PkekyoCartas: what?
14:12.50kenlyricoooh, cart_trainers throws errors when you try to config filters, which is why it's not showing first aid.
14:13.02kenlyricNickenyfiken: nnTrainers should set filters based on the professions you have.
14:13.05kenlyricif it can.
14:13.05CartasYou know the drop-down URL list? They should order it by 'most-used'...
14:13.08CartasLike Firefox has.
14:13.19cc-worki really dont see any need for WAU updates unless u want additional features
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14:13.32cc-workall im looking for is something to automatically update all the wowace mods
14:13.37kenlyrickenlyric>cc-work: why do people *usually* say to use an up-to-date version of software.
14:13.41Nickenyfikenkenlyric: Hmm it should do that already. Perhaps i broke something.
14:13.44CartasWAU!
14:13.46kenlyricI don't think i can make it any clearer, really.
14:13.57cc-workkenlyric: becuz developers hate to support older versions
14:14.07kenlyriccc-work: or the older version doesn't work correctly.
14:14.21CartasThat's the main reason, I feel... they say they no longer provide support from the prior versions :o
14:14.31CartasLike with Windows 98... it works perfectly fine!
14:14.34cc-workexactly its the lazy developers
14:14.39CartasBut Microsoft would of course recommend Vista or XP.
14:14.48kenlyricCartas: as long as you don't let it connect to the internet.
14:15.07kaidenrawr
14:15.52Sarozwhere the fuck did my forum topic go
14:15.59CartasWhat's being added in Firefox 3 that makes it so bloated, cc-work? :O
14:16.29kenlyricthat's strange, it picked up the blacksmith trainer and i'm not a blacksmith.
14:17.17Sarozwho cleaned up the forums?
14:17.28kenlyricnvm, that's _trainer... need to disable that.
14:17.35SarozMikk, ping
14:17.40kaidenwhere do we stand on the rock borking cartographer modules / fubar modules?
14:17.41NickenyfikenSaroz: someone awsome!
14:17.54Sarozwell they deleted my topic
14:17.56kenlyrickaiden: they don't?
14:18.00Sarozwhich is not really cool
14:18.06kaidenkenlyric, ok, last i read on the forums was they did :)
14:18.12kaideni guess i will fully upgrade now
14:18.19mastaAFKas a "dumb" end user i was able to update everything just fine
14:18.23kenlyrickaiden: is it related to "Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. Do not whine if you use a lower version."
14:18.32mastaAFKi just dont quite gett all the fuzz on the forums
14:18.34CartasIs WAU 2.0 out yet?
14:18.52kaidenkenlyric, no, was related to the transition to rock for ckknights mods
14:19.00Cartas1.9.44.656 is still the highest version showing online.
14:19.02CartasRight?
14:19.05kaidenas i went to bed last night all i heard was a bunch of whiners
14:19.06Nickenyfiken~wau2
14:19.07purlfrom memory, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2
14:19.11PkekyoCartas: instead of recently used?
14:19.14CartasOhhh, WAU2!
14:19.26CartasWhy doesn't it say that then? :o
14:19.36MikkSaroz: you were the one that posted in the news section?
14:19.37CartasHm, Pkekyo? :o
14:19.46SarozMikk, no?
14:20.03SarozMikk, I had a huge topic about sRaidFrames, which seems to be gone
14:20.09MikkoO
14:20.13Mikkthat seems.... odd
14:20.14Mikkdidn't get moved?
14:20.17Sarozno
14:20.29Saroznot according to search anyway
14:20.54Adirelle|Workweirdly, there are tools for which I always want english locale, instead of my native one, JIRA is one of them
14:21.06Sarozall my posts in the topic is gone aswell, ie. "Show your posts" dont show them
14:21.09Mikkwindows too plx
14:21.15kaidenso i'm assuming with wau2 you dont need standalonelibs because it has a dependency checker and it will install all the necessary dependencies?
14:21.19MikkSaroz: uuuuhhhh wow?
14:21.23Mikkkaiden: correct
14:21.28SarozMikk, who made the changes?
14:21.29kenlyrickaiden: uh
14:21.32PkekyoCartas: url dropdown list...?
14:21.33Mikkkaiden: same with wau1.9 afaik
14:21.36CartasOh!
14:21.38MikkSaroz: funkeh
14:21.38kenlyrickaiden: wau 1.9 is the same way.
14:21.40CartasSorry :P
14:21.40sag_ich_nichtyarrrrrrrrrrrr
14:21.46CartasYeh, Pkekyo. Have you used Firefox? :)
14:21.50kaidenkenlyric, this is me saying i haven't updated in a while ;p
14:21.56CartasOn Opera I see that it's listed in alphabetical order, yes?
14:22.01PkekyoCartas: had to at school for a while now...completely traumatized
14:22.04Chompersoh hi Saroz, are you new here? never seen you before
14:22.12Mikkno
14:22.19Mikkhe's been around
14:22.21CartasSorry Pkekyo, brb old chap! :p
14:22.23kenlyricI personally can't stand wau2... the layout, the way updates work. The fact that I have to wait 20 minutes for the java engine to load.
14:22.25PkekyoCartas: can't tell....too complex urls :p
14:23.29kaidenkenlyric, time for a new computer
14:23.31krka_20 minutes to load java engine? that sounds like a really old computer
14:23.42kenlyricit's an exaggeration of course.
14:23.49kaidenmine takes all of 2 seconds to load wau2
14:23.50kaiden:P
14:23.50kenlyricbut still, it's java, so, fail.
14:24.13NickenyfikenJava is good.
14:24.48krka_i agree that sun jvm has a long bootup time though
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14:27.57Eggiwau2 isn't open source?
14:28.37Pkekyodamnit...run out of quests to do in arathi, and nowhere near lvl 40 :<
14:29.57kenlyricuh.
14:30.07kenlyricso many things wrong with that sentence.
14:30.16kaidenok now i have a reason to agree with you on wau2 kenlyric
14:30.36kaideni just did an update and it only installed like a third of the mods then just stopped with no failures
14:31.10kenlyrichave you done dustwallow, stv, etc?
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14:31.43CIA-2203saroz * r49219 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.toc: Cartographer_Noteshare: Babble-Spell is not a required dependency.
14:32.03Sarozwow I updated cartographer and pitbull blew up
14:32.26Pkekyokenlyric: no, not really
14:32.42Pkekyowell, did STV...it's impossible on my server
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14:34.01kenlyricI think I spent most of 39 in STV
14:34.22Pkekyotoo many nolife-fucktard-gankers on this server to level in stv
14:34.33krka_desolace?
14:34.52Adirelle|Workhe, wau2 eats all my CPU time :/
14:34.53Pkekyomeh
14:35.26Pkekyohate desolace
14:35.32kenlyricwell,
14:35.38kenlyricyou need every zone if you want to level through quests.
14:35.44kenlyricget to grindin.
14:36.53kenlyricexcept for silithus.
14:37.03kenlyricthanks to TBC, you can skip silithus entirely.
14:37.17kenlyric(praise the lord)
14:37.23Pkekyowell that's a relief
14:37.33nevcairielyou can grind 58->60 easily
14:37.40nevcairieloutlands giev fast xp
14:37.53PkekyoI grinded lvl 58-60 in epl methinks
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14:38.01kenlyricyeah, grind with rest and do the first 4 or 5 quests to upgrade your gear.
14:38.06Pkekyono questing
14:38.12kenlyricthat's pretty fail.
14:38.27Sarozanyone having problems with cartographer vs. pitbull?
14:38.30kenlyricslow grind is slow.
14:38.34Pkekyowhat's pretty fail?
14:38.38SarozI update cart and pitbull throws tons of db errors
14:38.44PkekyoSaroz: none
14:38.56Pkekyohaven't updated though
14:38.57Sarozodd
14:38.58Adirelle|Worksaroz: do you read the forums ?
14:38.59Sarozmeh
14:39.00nevcairielSaroz: you have to kill your settings then
14:39.09SarozAdirelle|Work, meh, which ones
14:39.17Adirelle|Workwowace
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14:39.28Sarozok nevcairiel, which ones?
14:39.41nevcairielpitbull, obviously
14:39.48Sarozoh, thought you meant cart
14:39.52Sarozcause pitbull alone works ifne
14:39.54Sarozfine*
14:39.56nevcairielreally?
14:40.00Sarozyes
14:40.04nevcairieli didnt bother to check in-depth
14:40.10nevcairielswitched to the ace2 tags
14:40.17Sarozsame, but have to move on :p
14:40.17nevcairieli should prolly fork
14:40.39CartasPkekyo!
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14:41.37CartasHm, why doesn't WAU2 let me set the WoW directory?
14:42.06PkekyoCartas: yes?
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14:42.17CartasDo you happen to know how I can change how Opera works, btw? :p
14:42.32Pkekyoerr...depends on what you wanna change?
14:42.32Stan__how it works?
14:42.58Stan__opera:config
14:43.10Pkekyoindeed
14:43.22CartasThe URL drop-down box!
14:43.26Pkekyoyou're going to have to be a bit more specific cartas
14:43.27Pkekyoah
14:43.32CartasYou forget so soon?
14:43.35Pkekyoguess you'd have to do some programming then
14:43.38CartasAw.
14:44.03Pkekyowhat's the problem?
14:44.24CartasAs I say, I would prefer if it ordered URL's according to frequency of usage!
14:44.31Pkekyol2shortcuts and bookmarks? :)
14:44.36Cartaslol
14:44.43kenlyricthat's so 1990s
14:44.43PkekyoI hardly even type urls at all anymore
14:44.49kenlyricbrowser should anticipate where I'm going.
14:44.51Stan__Cartas: 9.5 has a neat feature
14:44.54CartasNor me, I just type 't' and then press down and enter :P
14:44.55Stan__it searches the history
14:45.08Stan__and displays what it found while you type
14:45.21CartasI have 9.5.
14:45.46Stan__mkay
14:45.55PkekyoI have two bars filled to the brim with shortcuts :) works like a charm
14:46.03CartasTwo bars?
14:46.08Pkekyoaye
14:46.16CartasWhere are these bars?
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14:46.31Pkekyoerr
14:46.42Pkekyoget you a screenie soon
14:46.46CartasDanke!
14:46.58Stan__lol
14:47.34CartasStan__: I see that when I type in, say, 't' the URLs seem to be shown in last-used order.
14:47.40CartasRight? :o
14:47.48CartasOr, what order is it?
14:47.58CartasHm, just a completely random order?
14:48.18Pkekyoerr
14:48.27Stan__no
14:48.31Stan__it searches the history
14:48.32CartasWhat order is it?
14:48.36Cartasand orders it how?
14:48.44Stan__most recent?
14:48.46CartasHm
14:48.48CartasWhy does it show...
14:48.55CartasSunday above Today?
14:49.10CartasThe entries go in the order: Sunday Today Today Sunday Sunday Today
14:49.10Stan__not most recent
14:49.11PkekyoCartas: http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7294/operafx5.jpg
14:49.28CartasYuck :p
14:49.43CartasSorry old chap! But I prefer it to be minimalistic, I suppose.
14:50.37Pkekyo1 - what's wrong with that? can adjust size, and even have just the icons or just the names if wanted
14:50.37Pkekyo2 - I'm not old :<
14:50.52CartasEveryone is an old chap, as I mean it!
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14:51.18Punkie`Pkekyo: I use Opera for IRC also :)
14:51.22kaidengotta love all these libs :) 15-20 second zone time
14:51.22kaidenhehe
14:51.34PkekyoPunkie`: makes everything soooo much easier :)
14:51.50Cartashttp://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6885/firefoxlp2.jpg
14:51.52CartasHere's my firefox
14:52.21CartasWAU2 fails so badly, btw! :P Don't try it1
14:52.38CIA-2203pb_ee1 * r49220 10/trunk/ (SharedMediaAdditionalFonts/ SharedMediaAdditionnalFonts/): Renamed to correct spelling xD
14:53.32Stan__pb_ee1: why don't you just add the fonts to SharedMedia?
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14:54.04pb_ee1Mainly because it would become too big, Stan__.
14:54.07pb_ee1Check: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8501.0
14:54.11Punkie`Pkekyo: The moust gestures in Opera are just win :p
14:54.17Punkie`mouse**
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14:55.33Stan__pb_ee1: mkay..I hope you start using LibSharedMedia-2.0 soon
14:55.50pb_ee1I'll do when addons will use it
14:56.02pb_ee1Doing it now is useless because addons do not use it
14:56.11Sarozwhen I enable cartographer, my pitbull goes insane... wtf
14:56.14PkekyoPunkie`: couldn't live without them
14:56.19mikmaSaroz: gz
14:57.20Adirelle|Work~seen ckknight
14:57.23purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 4m 1s ago, saying: 'alright, I'll cya all later'.
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14:57.42Cartas~seen Cartass
14:57.43purlcartass <n=Cartas@host86-133-62-204.range86-133.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 17h 46m 33s ago, saying: 'Are you atheists here then? :o'.
14:57.55CartasWhat a quote.
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14:59.02Killmorewtb ckknight
15:00.18Killmorehe didnt release FuBarPlugin-3.0 yesterday like he told me.. I hate him :P
15:01.02MikkMaybe he's started to think designs through a bit before releasing?
15:01.02Mikk...
15:01.03Mikknah
15:01.05SarozFucking crap shit cartographer grrrrrrr, ok break now
15:01.19deltronheh a few mods broke on me yesterday
15:01.27SarozRock ftl
15:01.28Sarozkk
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15:02.52kenlyricSaroz: I don't know why you keep failing.
15:02.53dreamssno freaking patch
15:02.56dreamssfuck u blizzard
15:03.07deltronlulz
15:03.18deltronI don't see the patch for another 2-3 weeks
15:03.19deltronif that
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15:04.59CartasSwearing to Blizzard in a random IRC channel... ooh, they're rushing that patch out now, dreamss.
15:05.23dreamsshaha i know they spying on me
15:05.39dreamss>_<
15:05.58dreamsswaiting on 2.3 my shaman been trying to go enhas since 2.0 :(
15:07.03kenlyricbah, cart_vendor doesn't track the owl vendor. Fail!
15:07.27Killmoreanyone have problem with Recount since.. maybe 1week ?
15:07.34Killmorelag, error
15:07.57Mikklibparser-4.0 did some evil things to previous parser libs
15:07.58Mikkcould be related?
15:08.41Shirik|Ecolecan't be as evil as SW_FixLogStrings
15:08.50Shirik|Ecolewhich, yes, I'm still mad about, and it's been about 24 hours now >.>
15:09.55Mikknot as evil? how about detecting parser-1.1, parser-2.0 and parser-3.0 in ram and attempting to patch their functionality and breaking them? :P
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15:10.54Shirik|Ecolebetter than breaking every other addon that tries to parse the combat log at all
15:10.58Shirik|Ecolewhether or not it uses parser
15:11.06Mikktrue dat
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15:14.48Adirelle|WorkShirik|Ecole: @ Ecole ???
15:15.03Shirik|Ecoleessentially
15:17.26kenlyriclol, trainerfu is dumb.
15:17.35kenlyricit thinks my priest needs to learn devouring plague.
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15:17.57kenlyricwhich, while true, is impossible.
15:18.27CodayusI'd like to learn that too!
15:18.33Shirik|Ecoleme too
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15:19.45Shirik|Ecolewow
15:19.52Shirik|EcoleKTM is blatantly ignoring Omen now in its entirety?
15:19.59MikkoO
15:20.00Mikkheh
15:20.01Mikktheir loss
15:20.09Shirik|Ecoleit's what I'm inferring from this forum post
15:20.18Shirik|Ecole" Well I wasn't having the same problem with KTM. On KTM I could see my own threat, I just couldn't see EVERYONE'S. I assume I was only seeing the threat of the people that still use KTM instead of Omen."
15:20.45Pheredhelhmm,  I turned of the ktm export of omen some time ago
15:21.00PProvostWe disallowed KTM some time ago because of interop issues.
15:21.17Shirik|EcoleYou know, people need to chill on the whole "at war" thing
15:21.59CodayusMmm, my guild moved completely over to Omen a while ago.  KTM data is never going to work very well in Omen, so...
15:22.14CodayusCan't really get excercised over naything Kenco does any more.  :-)
15:22.49Adirelle|WorkKenco has made KLM ignoring version replies in r20, but he added a whole "Threat ignore" ???
15:23.13Shirik|Ecoleright, I knew about the first part
15:25.05pb_ee1Humm when i'm trying to commit, it tells me "You are not allowed to make changes to ""-type files:"
15:25.46pb_ee1wtf?
15:27.55Adirelle|WorkShirik|Ecole: can't find any code related to threat ignoring in KTM 20.4
15:28.08Shirik|EcoleI'm just going by that forum post
15:28.09Shirik|Ecolenothing more
15:30.24Kemayopb_ee1: If you're committing a file with an extension that isn't on a short whitelist, you'll need to hunt down Kaelten and get extra permissions.
15:30.47pb_ee1Yup, thanks Kemayo. I actually fixed the problem by renaming the file from file.TTF to file.ttf
15:30.52CodayusI wouldn't trust random forum posts about KTM/Threat issues too much; lots of heated misinformation...
15:31.00KemayoAh, case-sensitivity...
15:31.06pb_ee1yeah :(
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15:33.05Adirelle|WorkCodayus: I wasn't trusting it, I just checked it
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15:35.04Adirelle|WorkAFAIK, KTM doesn't use version information, it doesn't even check it unless you ask it to, thus ignoring Threat fake version doesn't matter
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15:38.32cncfanaticsyo all
15:41.12CartasHi old chap!
15:41.16CartasStill playing CnC?
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15:43.31kaidenbleh, really dont like the feel of the rock configuration
15:43.31kaidenfeels too big
15:46.28CIA-2203Tristan * r49226 10Enhancer/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
15:46.28CIA-22Enhancer:
15:46.28CIA-22- Due to request there is now another frame for initial 9 secs of Windfury imbue from casting a totem (in case you weave totems)
15:46.28CIA-22- Added an extra check for Cartographer
15:47.18cncfanaticsCartas, ofc :p
15:47.25cncfanaticshmmm, does CIA look buggy for anyone but me ?
15:47.35nevcairielcia is lagging
15:47.37CartasRA2: YR is best, yes? :p
15:47.47cncfanaticsnot only lagging
15:47.49cncfanaticsI don't see collors
15:47.57cncfanaticsI see &# chars all over the place
15:48.24cncfanaticsoh god no, I already passed my bandwith limit for this month
15:48.28cncfanaticswe're the damn 17th crap
15:48.45Mikk18
15:48.46nevcairielonly you see those chars, then
15:48.57kaidencncfanatics, how much bandwidth do they give you?
15:49.01cncfanatics17gig a month
15:49.03cncfanaticspieces of crap
15:49.06cncfanaticsneed more seriously
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15:49.31cncfanaticsnow i'm at 10kb/s speed till the end of the month
15:49.39Shirik|Ecolerofl
15:49.40kaidenyeah that would be harsh for me since i transfer like 50-60 gb a week :P
15:49.40Shirik|Ecolenublet
15:49.50Shirik|Ecolestop transferring so much
15:49.55cncfanaticsmuch ?
15:50.00CartasYou downloaded 17gb?
15:50.03cncfanatics50-60gig a week ain't even much imo
15:50.06zxcvsorry if this is a faq, but my priest friend is trying to get shadowform switching on his bartender3, but it doesn't show up in his stances?
15:50.08Shirik|Ecoleactually 17 isn't much
15:50.11cncfanaticsCartas, combined download & upload :/
15:50.21CartasAh!
15:50.24cncfanaticszxcv, /reload
15:50.28cncfanaticsafter that it'll show up
15:50.47zxcvthx
15:50.54Shirik|Ecole~birthday :-)
15:50.55purlACTION Happy Birthday to you, Happy birthday to you!, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEEEAARR :-), Happy Birthday toooo yoooou!
15:50.58Shirik|Ecolehttp://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/09/18/emoticon.anniversary.ap/index.html
15:51.42cncfanaticssigh, really need decent inet providers in belgium
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15:56.30Funkeh`hi all
15:56.35cncfanaticsyo
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15:59.23[gk]Hotphoenix[2007/09/18 15:27:44-673-x1]: FuBar-49053\FuBar.lua:73: LibRockLocale-1.0("FuBar"): No translations registered
15:59.30[gk]Hotphoenixwith newest updates
15:59.35cncfanaticsweee FB2 is working again xD
16:00.49CIA-2203cncfanatics 07Rock * r49227 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/ (6 files in 6 dirs): FlexBar2: Flexbar should now be fully working with rock except for config GUI
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16:03.35Gamefaqhiho
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16:04.17cncfanaticsni hao
16:04.34Gamefaqlol
16:05.47NickenyfikenAdirelle|Work: Would it be possible to have SSR not warn about a missing buff while it's on cooldown? Only one i can think of is Mage Combustion.
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16:07.30Adirelle|Workwhat's the CD of combustion ?
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16:08.16Adirelle|Workhrm... actually, I split the binding and the warning into two modules, but it doesn't seem to be that good
16:08.18Nickenyfiken3 min
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16:09.07NickenyfikenCD starting when the buffs goes away
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16:10.48Adirelle|WorkI'll put it on my TODO list :p
16:10.48NickenyfikenOh well got to go
16:10.53NickenyfikenOK :-)
16:11.01sag_ich_nicht~seen JoshBorke
16:11.04purljoshborke <n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 6m 45s ago, saying: 'i don't think of either of them as replacements but rather successors'.
16:11.04Adirelle|Workgot to go too
16:11.04Adirelle|Workcya
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16:12.05cncfanaticsomg, I downloaded ENGLISH dubs of gundam seed
16:12.06cncfanaticsFTL
16:12.11sag_ich_nichthaha
16:12.11sag_ich_nichtdie.
16:12.23cncfanaticsdidn't know they were
16:12.31cncfanaticsand don't got bandwith to redownload, sigh
16:13.00Hjaltecncfanatics, what else would you get than english..?
16:13.20cncfanaticsHjalte, original with english subs, as it should be ?
16:13.29HjalteAh, i see.
16:13.40sag_ich_nichtno
16:13.42sag_ich_nichtbad joshborke
16:13.45sag_ich_nicht~lart JoshBorke
16:13.45purlbeats JoshBorke to within 2.54cm of his life
16:13.47sag_ich_nichtno cookie
16:15.01CIA-2203cncfanatics 07Rock * r49228 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Disable debugging
16:15.16sag_ich_nichtpastamancer has castcommlib become deprecated?
16:15.59sag_ich_nichtor am i just too stupid to find stuff again
16:16.08cncfanaticssag_ich_nicht, think its the second
16:16.19sag_ich_nichtk
16:16.34sag_ich_nichtoh okay
16:16.35sag_ich_nichtfound it
16:16.43cncfanaticstold ya
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16:21.02sag_ich_nicht~lart pastamancer
16:21.02purlsquishes pastamancer like a bug
16:21.11sag_ich_nichtyou forgot to optdep CTL in CCL
16:21.34cncfanaticspurl, I love you
16:21.35purlYou love you?
16:21.52sag_ich_nichtpurl, I love purl
16:21.53purlYou love purl?
16:21.57sag_ich_nichtyes.
16:22.12sag_ich_nicht:P
16:22.20Shirik|Ecolepurl, yes
16:22.21purlYou don't say!
16:22.26Shirik|Ecole=P
16:22.46sag_ich_nicht><
16:22.51sag_ich_nichtand JoshBurke broke his opt deps too.
16:22.54sag_ich_nichtbad josh
16:22.56sag_ich_nichtno cookie
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16:29.08cncfanaticshmmm, how often should a cooldown text be updated ?
16:29.10Fisker-fuck i love TF2
16:29.11cncfanaticswhat u peeps think ?
16:29.21cncfanaticsFisker- TF2 = ?
16:29.32nevcairielcooldown text should be dealt with by OmniCC
16:29.33nevcairiel:P
16:29.45koviteam fortress 2
16:29.48kovibeta released today
16:29.50kovi<3<3
16:30.01nevcairielopen beta?
16:30.08cncfanaticsnevcairiel , not the philosphy of FB2 :)
16:30.14kovino
16:30.27koviyou get to play when you preorder the orangebox
16:30.29nevcairiel"reinvent the wheel, so people odnt have to get the wheel at WoWI?" ^^
16:30.32nevcairielah.
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16:31.24mikmanevcairiel: we has a cogwheel
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16:31.56Whinewhisperhttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1046/1391535139_15e7b802f3_o.jpg <- what buttons/skin is that
16:32.26mikmaBT3 + some cyCircled texture
16:32.37nevcairielthats probably bt3, with some glossy texture, and eePanels
16:33.03cncfanaticsnevcairiel, u know how textsubs work a bit ?
16:33.24nevcairielno idea what you mean
16:33.58sag_ich_nichtgrr
16:34.01sag_ich_nichti need more rights on JIRA
16:34.13sag_ich_nicht>_>
16:34.19cncfanaticsnevcairiel, text subs are a bit similar to the tags in pitbull
16:34.22cncfanaticsu can place what u want where u want
16:34.26WhinewhisperI have BT3 and cyCircled and i cant get those nice borders
16:34.48sag_ich_nichtthere are like > 9000 issues on JIRA right now that are caused by users upgrading badly
16:34.49nevcairielthe panel behind that is probably eepanels
16:35.36sag_ich_nichtWhinewhisper: you are missing cyCircled_Vol
16:35.39nevcairielcncfanatics: ...and? :)
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16:36.01nevcairielcncfanatics: what would i want on my action buttons?
16:36.04cncfanaticsnevcairiel, people wouldnt be able to place cooldown where they want if I relied on omniCC ?
16:36.11cncfanaticsnevcairiel, u wldnt want on urs, I would want on mine :)
16:36.27Whinewhisperah
16:36.28Whinewhisperi had vol
16:36.32Whinewhisperjust colours was wrong in vol
16:36.34Whinewhisperso didnt look that nice
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16:40.58sag_ich_nichtckknight
16:41.09Killmoreits all ckknight fault
16:41.14ckknighthey all
16:41.14Killmoreomg he's here :|
16:41.31cc-workwhich folder does the new WAU1.9 install too??
16:41.32sag_ich_nichtgive me more rights for your JIRA projects. i could close like 50% of the bugs there alone because they are caused by bad upgrades
16:41.57sag_ich_nicht:P
16:42.06ckknightsag_ich_nicht: some were legitimate, but yes, mostly due to bad upgrades
16:42.14sag_ich_nichtckknight: i know that some where
16:42.16ckknightI'm basically waiting for there to be no more icky bugs anymore
16:42.18sag_ich_nichtthat's why i said 50% :P
16:42.22ckknightthen close the lot of em
16:42.57Silviu-ckknight can i bother u with a small bug ? ;p
16:43.02ckknightperhaps
16:43.07Silviu-ckknight http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot091807193951bs1.jpg
16:43.15Silviu-Typo i guess in Threat :)
16:43.40n|kleeive got a question: i made a new interface which includes many ace addons. i updatet them all with aceupdater. now i saw the news configurationtool "rock" - i hate it can i delete it and use the old right.click based?
16:43.52JoshBorken|klee: no
16:43.54sag_ich_nicht~facepalm
16:43.54purlACTION facepalms at the situation
16:44.02cc-workwhich folder does the new WAU1.9 install to?
16:44.11n|kleei have to use this config tool?
16:44.18JoshBorkelua> 13+25
16:44.18cladbotJoshBorke: 38
16:44.22ckknightSilviu-: sorry bout that
16:44.24CIA-2203ckknight * r49229 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0 - fix capitalization issue.
16:44.36Silviu-ckknight thank u ;)
16:44.36sag_ich_nichtn|klee: Rock is not a configuration utility.
16:44.37sag_ich_nicht~rock
16:44.38purlwell, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight.  More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon shout it out, or what we're going to do to blow your hair to the back of the auditorium.
16:45.01cncfanaticsckknight, could I trigger an update every 0.3 seconds if I wanted to ?
16:45.07cncfanaticsit seems to not get through correctly with rock
16:45.19ckknightpastey your code
16:45.21ckknightit should work fine...
16:45.34ckknight:AddRepeatingTimer(0.3, "SomeMethod")
16:45.34cncfanaticsEventManager:AddRepeatingTimer(0.3, function() self:DispatchEvent("UPDATE"); end);
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16:45.45ckknightyea, that should do it
16:45.51cncfanaticsAddEventListener("FlexBar2", "UPDATE") seems to act weird
16:45.52ckknightput a print message in there to see it happening
16:45.53cncfanaticslemme test again
16:46.00ckknightin the timer itself
16:46.25ckknightis EventManager a module of FlexBar2?
16:46.33sag_ich_nichtckknight: compatibility layer for JostleLib?
16:46.36cc-workwhich folder does the new WAU1.9 install to?
16:46.39ckknightsag_ich_nicht: I think I will
16:46.43sag_ich_nichtgood
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16:46.53n|kleehmm... and there is no way to get the old "configuration" back? :( it was really good to configure by "right-click" :D
16:47.15sag_ich_nichtn|klee well you could write a rock-->dewdrop translation addon
16:47.19sag_ich_nichtif you really want to.
16:47.29cncfanaticsckknight, it is
16:47.31sag_ich_nichtbut that'd be /facepalm material
16:47.37n|klee^^
16:47.40cncfanaticswould that mean extra namespacing ?
16:47.51ckknight"FlexBar2_EventManager"
16:47.54ckknightor whatever it is
16:48.03cncfanaticsaah
16:48.04ckknightno, n|klee, you can either go back to old versions or get used to the new way
16:48.17sag_ich_nicht(spoiler: old versions=teh suck)
16:48.20cncfanaticsthats messy, now i'll have to keep track of what module triggers what events
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16:48.56n|kleejust one more question: since the last aceupdater update (update for the programm WAU) ive alway a critical error.. windows sends it - the critical error window is opened but i can use WAU anyway but its getting on my nerves...
16:49.09snurreeeek, when i booted now the raid bios said one of my raid drives had an error *scared*
16:49.23sag_ich_nichtckknight: the compatibility layers that are in right now auto-replace any still present "old" versions, correct Y/N?
16:49.30ckknightY
16:49.31sag_ich_nichtsnurre
16:49.33sag_ich_nichtshut down
16:49.34sag_ich_nichtyour pc
16:49.35sag_ich_nichtand backup
16:49.36sag_ich_nichtGO
16:49.45JoshBorkebut he has to boot it up to backup
16:49.50JoshBorkewhat will he do?!
16:49.51sag_ich_nichtnot to IRC.
16:49.51KillmoreI really like how new config way work ! I just want to see the Rock & Parrot on my fubar and get back my cowtip, pitbull on fubar :P
16:49.52snurrewell.. it booted just fine :p
16:50.03sag_ich_nichtsnurre doesn't mean drive failure isn't imminent.
16:50.07sag_ich_nichtenjoy your lost data.
16:50.07snurrei know
16:50.08ckknightKillmore: why you want em on FuBar?
16:50.12JoshBorkebye
16:50.19snurrebut i dont have anywhere to back it up at :p
16:50.36sag_ich_nichtsnurre go buy an identically sized HDD
16:50.37Aileen_maybe he's running RAID 5 :)
16:50.39snurre2x 500gb in raid-0 and only one additional 250gb :p
16:50.46sag_ich_nichtouch
16:51.03sag_ich_nichtyou're going to lose about 1TB of data  snurre if you don't replace that drive
16:51.11sag_ich_nichtgo buy a 500 GB drive now and replace the faulty drive
16:51.15sag_ich_nichtand show down your damn PC for now
16:51.20sag_ich_nicht*shut
16:51.52n|kleedoes every ace addon works correctly with rocks? ive got many .lua errors when loggin in... pitbull, cartographer making trouble - they are updatet. anyone knows help?
16:52.04cncfanaticshmmm, raid combines two HDD into one ?
16:52.07kebinusancheck the SMART crap and see what kind of error it is
16:52.10ckknightmy guess, you didn't update properly
16:52.14sag_ich_nichtn|klee read the topic
16:52.18sag_ich_nichtyou upgraded wrong.
16:52.21ckknightpeople who have updated properly do not whine.
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16:52.26sag_ich_nichtckknight wrong
16:52.27n|kleekk sry :/
16:52.27snurreanything i have that's important is on the 250gb drive anyway.. only OS, movies, games and other stuff i can download in two weeks on the array
16:52.27sag_ich_nichti do
16:52.34ckknight:-P
16:52.39cncfanaticshmmm, I noticed, bugsack doesnt catch errors of rock stuff ? why ?
16:52.44sag_ich_nichtwell, actually
16:52.46CartasWho is the creator of WAU2?
16:52.49sag_ich_nichti flame more than i whine
16:52.54Cartas~WAU2
16:52.54purl[wau2] http://wowace.com/wau2
16:52.54sag_ich_nichtCartas the devil.
16:53.06CartasCartas the devil?
16:53.08Killmoreckknight: yeah.. dont know.. you have probably right, only put rock config on fubar and when you click on it you get the rockconfig tool and select your rock addon..
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16:53.26Aileen_depends on the RAID level
16:53.30ckknightKillmore: FuBar shouldn't've have been used as a place to hold config plugins
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16:53.39ckknighttrying to get away from that
16:53.56n|kleereally thank you im sorry to get on ur nerves with my anoying questions - "read the topic" i really should do it -.- sry again :P
16:54.02CartasNobody knows who made WAU2 then?
16:54.04CartasBleh.
16:54.22sag_ich_nichtCartas you could just, you know, read the about box.
16:54.28Killmoreckknight: I save 1 click if I only have to click on my parrot, cowtip whatever addon :P
16:54.28CartasHm!
16:54.31CartasPretty smart, old chap.
16:54.37Killmoredid you realize ! I save 1 click :P
16:54.38CartasJust testing you... yeh.
16:54.51Fisker-btw ckknight
16:55.01Fisker-is it possible to get rock minimap icon to attach to fubar?
16:55.13sag_ich_nicht~facea
16:55.16sag_ich_nichtdamnit
16:55.17sag_ich_nicht~facepalm
16:55.18purlACTION facepalms at the situation
16:55.28cncfanaticsFisker-, read the above tbh
16:55.29sag_ich_nichtFisker- you are worse than me
16:55.30ckknightFisker-: eventually it will be. not yet.
16:55.31n|kleebtw ur realy nice i like ur ace addons ;)
16:55.32sag_ich_nichtand that means a lot.
16:55.37Fisker-doh
16:55.39ckknightn|klee: good stuff.
16:55.40CartasUnfortunately, sag_ich_nicht, I don't think your plan worked in the end.
16:55.42cncfanaticsn|klee, lol :p
16:55.43Fisker-i just got here!
16:55.47sag_ich_nichtCartas noes
16:55.49Fisker-tl;dr and all that jazz
16:55.50sag_ich_nichtread the readme!
16:55.52CartasThey have their real life names!
16:55.52ckknightn|klee: though technically they're no longer Ace addons
16:55.55sag_ich_nichtread the helpfile!
16:55.58CartasNot their IRC names :(
16:55.59sag_ich_nichtCartas google them!
16:56.02Cartaslol
16:56.03n|kleeckknight why not?
16:56.12Chompersace addons are awesome! i love deady boss mods and ktm the most!
16:56.12CartasDo they not hang around in this channel, sag_ich_nicht?
16:56.13sag_ich_nichtn|klee because
16:56.14sag_ich_nicht~rock
16:56.14purlrumour has it, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight.  More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon shout it out, or what we're going to do to blow your hair to the back of the auditorium.
16:56.14ckknightbecause they're better than that now
16:56.18nogudnikhmmm, maybe an intro page in the rock config screen with the 2 or 3 most common questions would help
16:56.25sag_ich_nichtnogudnik no.
16:56.26KillmoreFisker-: I think theres an addon called "HulkHoganVsTheRock" or something like that :P
16:56.28sag_ich_nichtweak users must die.
16:56.29ckknightnogudnik: ooh.
16:56.39sag_ich_nichtKillmore: no, that was just for HIDDING the button.
16:56.41ckknightKillmore: I deleted that
16:56.45sag_ich_nichtand was deleted.
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16:56.51cncfanaticsckknight, do you mind if I take the parrot GUI as example for mine ? as I don't know the syntax & stuff
16:56.51ckknightnogudnik: what questions?
16:56.54Fisker-sigh
16:56.56ckknightyea, sure
16:56.58nogudniksag_ich_night: I'm at a work no, in the "must baby the users" mode. I'll be meaner when I get home :-)
16:57.05TinyboomWaterfall error: http://ace.pastey.net/74026 :p
16:57.07Fisker-now i was dissed for not showing up on time
16:57.15Fisker-The raid was "Magtheridon + Void Reaver"
16:57.22Fisker-No mention of any other order
16:57.29Fisker-i was in Magtheridon's Lair, everyone else in TK
16:57.32Fisker-...
16:57.35Chomperswe're doing vr tonight, join me!
16:57.53nogudnikckknight: seems to me that "can i get rid of rock and go back to fubar for Pitbull et al." and "How do I remove the mimimap icon" are the most common ones I've seen.
16:57.57cncfanaticsckknight, anything special to do when putting the rock version to trunk ? embeds or anything ?
16:58.20ckknightcncfanatics: make sure to set X-Embeds...
16:58.23Fisker-i hate you too Chompers
16:58.23sag_ich_nichtnogudnik: it's sag_ich_nicht, and don't tell me that was a typo, those keys too off for that.
16:58.31sag_ich_nichtlern2tabcomplete and lern2read
16:58.31sag_ich_nicht:P
16:58.32Chomperswhy fisker WHHYYYYY
16:58.40cncfanaticsckknight, should be set to ? just the name of every lib I use I guess ? :p
16:58.44ckknightyep.
16:58.50Chompersis it because i liek the mudkipz?
16:58.53ckknightjust check how Parrot does it
16:58.56kenlyricwhy in the world does bulkmailinbox think I have new mail when I visit an empty mailbox?
16:58.57sag_ich_nichtChompers
16:59.01cncfanaticsok now, GUI time,
16:59.04sag_ich_nichti will cut off your legs and have you killed.
16:59.05cncfanaticshate making GUIs :(
16:59.06sag_ich_nichtnow stfu.
16:59.12nogudniksag_ich_nicht: I call it a thinko, not a typo.
16:59.15Chompersi have no legs so owned
16:59.30sag_ich_nichtChompers then i will just chop off other body parts of you.
16:59.31sag_ich_nichtnow sssh.
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16:59.38Chompersnot my huge penis! nooo
16:59.42Zarielafternoon
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17:01.20Fisker-because people told me i was late :I
17:01.23Fisker-that's why Chompers
17:01.30Zarielhow do you return an arg from an event
17:01.31Zariel?
17:01.53durcynpb_ee1: 'additional' was correct :o
17:02.10pb_ee1durcyn: I know, but I first wrote "additionnal" *
17:02.12pb_ee1with two "n"
17:02.26durcynpb_ee1: oh nvm
17:03.57Stan__mornin ckknight
17:04.00ckknighthey Stan__
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17:04.47Zarielhey there
17:05.53Fisker-he wasn't asking you lolol
17:06.07Zarielif an my event, "DUEL_REQUESTED" arg1 is opponent name, how do I assign that to a variable, local dueler = DUEL_REQUESTED(arg1) ?
17:06.19Mikkkenlyric: not bulkmail's fault. it's blizzard's signalling that's off.
17:06.25Mikkkenlyric: the standard blizz indicator has the same problem
17:06.37kenlyricmikk cool.
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17:07.16cncfanaticsZariel,
17:07.17cncfanatics~pil
17:07.18purlmethinks pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language.  The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0.  The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
17:07.32Zarieldanke
17:08.16benHow do I get the cooldown information for the n'th bartender 3 button? GetActionCooldown will not work if the button is remapped
17:09.27cncfanaticshmmm, u'd get the action attribute of the button, and then call getactioncooldown for it
17:10.27benThat sounds pretty clever. I will try that!
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17:12.24nevcairielben: GetActionCooldown(BT3Button1:PagedID())
17:12.27CIA-2203ckknight * r49230 10CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - bugfix
17:13.35bennevcairiel: Wow, thanks.
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17:14.23Fisker-:O
17:14.32Fisker-looks like my mem usage is down a lot in raids
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17:14.51KillmoreFisker-: since ?
17:15.10Whinewhisperwhy does it take like 3 seconds before cowtip disappears when i mouseover a NPC
17:15.19Chompersturn fade off
17:15.23cncfanaticsWhinewhisper, cuz thats the time its configured to ? turn fade off
17:15.23KillmoreWhinewhisper: fade out ?
17:15.26Fisker-since rock :O
17:15.47Fisker-might want to check again under a bossfight but it's usually high in combat already
17:15.48KillmoreFisker-: samething happen to me last night :|
17:15.58Whinewhisperfade module is disabled
17:16.14Whinewhisperand all are set to immediately hide
17:16.58KillmoreFisker-: im at 24MiB when I log on, and I finish the night at 30MiB (after 5hours raid)
17:17.24Chompers119 in raids now
17:17.57Killmorebefore I was at 28MiB log in, 45-50MiB after the night
17:19.16Fisker-mine is like 40 at logon and 48 in raid atm
17:20.30cncfanaticsthats rather nice
17:20.36bennevcairiel: That method does nots eem to exist :[
17:20.41ben"seem"
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17:25.47bennevcairiel: Oh, I got it. ActionButton_GetPagedID! Thanks again!
17:25.47Brunersckknight: what have you been doing with your addons ?:P
17:25.47ckknightlots
17:25.47Brunersnever had that many bugsack errors
17:25.47benhay ckknight you wrote many awesome addons thanks ^___^
17:25.48ckknightgood stuff, ben
17:25.48sag_ich_nicht...
17:25.48ckknightBruners: basically, you didn't update properly
17:25.48sag_ich_nichtthat is either sarcasm or a trap
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17:25.48Brunersckknight: seems to be ok now on the last update
17:25.48sag_ich_nichtBruners /topic #wowace
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17:25.48CIA-2203cncfanatics 07Rock * r49231 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): FlexBar2: Event related fixes
17:25.49Brunerssag_ich_nicht: and i have that
17:26.00sag_ich_nicht:P
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17:27.16Brunersckknight: as in push F10 ? :)
17:27.58cncfanaticsBruners, read the god damn topic of this chan ?
17:28.11cncfanaticsUpgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. Do not whine if you use a lower version.
17:28.17cncfanaticspurl, waucomplain is Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. Do not whine if you use a lower version.
17:28.18purlcncfanatics: okay
17:28.22Brunerscncfanatics: and i have 1.9.44
17:28.48CIA-2203thexod * r49232 10ItemValue_DrDamage/ (CasterSet.lua ItemValue_DrDamage-enGB.lua MeleeSet.lua):
17:28.49CIA-22ItemValue_DrDamage:
17:28.49CIA-22- Cleaned CasterSet a bit
17:28.49CIA-22- Added some validation checks and error messages
17:28.49CIA-22- Agi and Str modifiers are now considered in their value calculation
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17:29.21HjalteI hate it when addon authors are never on irc >.<
17:29.49Funkeh`cncfanatics: owned
17:30.22n|kleeis there any tutorial how to get along with the news "ace system"? ive got WAU 2.0 an installed my addons but they dont load in wow... and they are ofc activated in the wow menu
17:30.30n|klee*news
17:30.33n|klee*new
17:30.34n|klee^^
17:30.44ckknightBruners: make sure they you auto-download dependencies
17:31.17Brunersi have
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17:31.53Brunersanyhow, LibRockLocale-1.0("FuBar"): No translations registered
17:31.57Brunersis what im getting atm
17:32.06Brunersx42
17:33.29sag_ich_nicht...
17:33.31sag_ich_nichtso am i
17:33.35sag_ich_nichtas i was just going to point out
17:33.42sag_ich_nichtBruners: enGB client?
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17:34.47Brunerseu english
17:35.07Silviu-Strange i use enGB too but 0 errors ;p
17:35.45HjalteBruners, when you search "Rock" in WAU, does it then tell you that you have all rock libraries installed?
17:36.10Brunersyes
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17:38.42sag_ich_nichtckknight: it seems that you forgot to put a enGB=enUS somewhere :P
17:39.05ckknightwhere?
17:39.33cncfanaticswas 2.2 this week or next week ?
17:39.34sag_ich_nichteither LibRockLocale-1.0 or Fubar.
17:39.54sag_ich_nicht[2007/09/18 19:31:21-231-x1]: FuBar-49053\FuBar.lua:73: LibRockLocale-1.0("FuBar"): No translations registered
17:39.54sag_ich_nicht<PROTECTED>
17:39.56Brunersfubar.lua 73,127,128,134,136 +++ LibRockLocale-1.0("FuBar"): No translations registered
17:40.05sag_ich_nichtyes. :X
17:40.06ckknightthat's your own fault.
17:40.16sag_ich_nichti updated properly, and you know that.
17:40.19ckknightsomehow
17:40.25ckknightI gotta go
17:40.26sag_ich_nichtsomehow what. :P
17:40.29sbcncfanatics: next
17:40.57sag_ich_nichtckknight: just tell us the culprint since you seem to know it before you run away
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17:41.37cncfanaticsBruners, I'd suggest removing fubar and redownloading it
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17:45.53sag_ich_nichtmhm
17:45.54sag_ich_nichtfixed.
17:45.56sag_ich_nichtstrange
17:46.00sag_ich_nichti apologize, ckknight
17:46.01sag_ich_nichtstill
17:46.11sag_ich_nichtsomething broke the upgrade
17:46.13sag_ich_nichtstrange
17:46.14sag_ich_nichtoÔ
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17:48.41CIA-2203pb_ee1 * r49233 10SharedMediaAdditionalFonts/ (4 files in 2 dirs): SharedMediaAdditionalFonts: Removing unusable fonts.
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17:50.01Swappyi've an issue with cartographer
17:50.25Swappywhen I click on an icon boss no table loot appear
17:50.35Swappythis is the error in the chat frame
17:50.36Swappy19:15:26[Cartographer_InstanceLoot] PT3 has no table InstanceLoot.Serpentshrine Cavern.The Lurker Below
17:50.50Swappywhat can I do?
17:51.42NightHawkAtWorkscream and run for the hills
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17:51.55Swappyfunny^^
17:52.49AeyanNot much you can do unless you want to add the entries to PT3
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17:56.55Brunerswell i have the loot on lurker below
17:57.13Swappyyes
17:57.42Swappybut whit another character I can see the loot table
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17:58.05Swappywith my mane character when I click on a boss icon I see this message
17:58.05SwappyNot much you can do unless you want to add the entries to PT3
17:58.11Swappyops sorry
17:58.19Swappywrong ctrl+v
17:58.30Swappy[Cartographer_InstanceLoot] PT3 has no table InstanceLoot.Serpentshrine Cavern.The Lurker Below
17:58.36Swappythat's correct
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17:59.23fropmmmh, what's the slash command for atlas?
17:59.31WhinewhisperRGB plugin for WOW Colorpicker ?
17:59.35Xinhuani'm going to guess it is /atlas
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18:00.04Swappybut I don't have atlas installed
18:00.16fropXinhuan: why isn't registered then? :P
18:00.23Xinhuanmaybe the addon didn't load properly
18:01.05fropmee :P
18:01.11Swappydo you know a solution?
18:01.17froplooking now
18:01.25Xinhuan[9/19 01:50:40] <Aeyan> Not much you can do unless you want to add the entries to PT3
18:01.53Swappyok ok tnx
18:04.37cncfanaticsback
18:05.06Fisker-i hate you cncfanatics
18:06.44cncfanaticsKaelten, when u get the time cld u add FlexBar2 to jira ?
18:07.43benIs there a way to get a callback when a bartender3 bar mapping changes? Obviously ACTIONBAR_SLOT_CHANGED will not be raised.
18:09.23cncfanaticsthere is probably an event
18:09.25Whinewhisperis there any RGB addon for colorpicker ?
18:09.30cncfanaticsOnAttributeChanged on the button should trigger ben
18:09.41cncfanaticsits triggered on the frame secure attributes change for
18:09.44cncfanaticsu could hook it
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18:20.27bencncfanatics: Would I use hooksecurefunc to hook it? I am not quite sure how this works.
18:21.00cncfanaticsben; Frame:HookScript("OnAttributeChanged", func() ... end);
18:21.18sbbah
18:21.22sbstrider tanking is evil
18:23.06Xinhuanyou can also use hooksecurefunc(Frame, "OnAttributeChanged", func() ... end);
18:23.09Xinhuanboth do the same thing
18:26.41cncfanaticsdoubt HookScript is secure
18:30.18Fisker-no
18:30.24Awaa[2007/09/18 20:29:50-428-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua:241: attempt to call method 'embed' (a nil value)
18:30.28Awaafixed?
18:31.10sag_ich_nichtyes.
18:31.11sag_ich_nichtupade.
18:31.14sag_ich_nicht*update.
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18:35.37bencncfanatics: Thanks a lot.
18:36.07cncfanaticsben, np :)
18:37.58benwelp, still not doing anything :[
18:38.18Xinhuan[9/19 02:20:57] <Xinhuan> you can also use hooksecurefunc(Frame, "OnAttributeChanged", func() ... end);
18:38.29benXinhuan: That threw an error for me.
18:38.35CIA-2203sinaloit * r49234 10Recount/ (. Recount.toc):
18:38.35CIA-22Recount:
18:38.35CIA-22- Updated X-Embeds to include GraphLib
18:38.35CIA-22- Updated tsvn:logtemplate
18:38.35CIA-22- Note: This addon appears to be using both Parser-1.1 and Parser-3.0, maybe choose one? :)
18:38.35cncfanaticsthat won't work Xinhuan
18:38.37Xinhuanwhat is the error?
18:38.44ben"OnAttributeChanged is not a function"
18:38.54Xinhuanoh
18:38.55cncfanaticshooksecurefunc(Frame:GetScript("OnAttributeChanged", func() end);
18:39.00Xinhuanyeah what cnc said
18:39.01cncfanaticsups, forgot a )
18:39.06cncfanaticshooksecurefunc(Frame:GetScript("OnAttributeChanged"), func() end);
18:39.39Xinhuanbe very very careul with this though, because "OnAttributeChanged" get called VERY VERY often by blizzard scripts
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18:39.46benHmm.
18:39.46cncfanaticsyea
18:39.47ben:/
18:39.49SarozFunkeh`
18:39.53Xinhuanwhich means you can be potentially running this a few thousand times a second
18:39.53benI am trying to have fancy cooldown animations
18:39.54cncfanaticsshould make more checking when it triggered
18:40.05Xinhuaneven for non-related changes
18:40.11Funkeh`Saroz:
18:40.11benby having a transparent copy of the button floating towards it
18:40.23cncfanaticsben, that'd require onupdate either way to make the copy move
18:40.24Xinhuanlets say someone in party1 gets updated in the template headers, everyone gets updated in the party
18:40.24benand I need to keep the copy using the right texture, even when bartender remaps buttons and stuff :/
18:40.31cncfanaticsdon't bother with events and use OnUpdate right away imo
18:40.39benOh, I do use OnUpdate.
18:40.46cncfanaticsthen why register additional events ?
18:40.56cncfanaticsu can check what action is on the button on ur onupdate script
18:41.09benBecause I thought it would be cheaper to register the events than checking every frame.
18:41.10cncfanaticscall :GetID(); (think that was the func) on the button
18:41.13nevcairielthere is a Frame:HookScript, you dont have to use hooksecurefunc magic
18:41.19Antiarcmorning all
18:41.38cncfanaticsnevcairiel, already told him :)
18:41.39Xinhuanits usually better to hook the OnAttributeChanged, which sets a OnUpdate script, then have that OnUpdate that runs nil itself
18:41.49Sinaloitmorning Antiarc
18:41.57Sinaloitso anyone know why they didn't patch this week?
18:42.04Xinhuanthis would mean you only get to run your function at most once per frame
18:42.07Xinhuaninstead of 100 times per frame
18:42.10bencncfanatics: I found it utterly impossible to get the ID form a button, there does not seem to be a GetID
18:42.32nevcairielif its only for BT3, hook the update func on the button
18:42.38Sarozckknight, when I enable cartographer, pitbull explodes with "db" errors and "aura" errors, known problem or you want details?
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18:43.10fropi am here?
18:43.15n|kleewhere can i get pitbull frame layouts? mybe a package like agUF_layouts?
18:43.49cncfanaticsSAroz, ckk is currently away
18:43.54Sarozroger
18:44.25nevcairielSaroz: he hides
18:44.25benBasically I need the button's position every frame, so I do that in onupdate, and I only activate the button's copy image in actionbar_update_cooldown, and I tried to only update the texture in actionbar_slot_changed but that utterly failed
18:44.35Saroznevcairiel, he should :p
18:45.24benHooking OnAttributeChanged with either hooksecurefunc or HookScript appears to work, so thanks for pointing that out to me.
18:45.29cncfanaticseither way, most addons trigger suitable events when an action changes ?
18:45.32cncfanaticsat least mine does :p
18:45.46Xinhuandepends on how the addon is written ;p
18:45.56bencncfanatics: Ideally I do not tailor this towards bartender3, though, because some of my guild members use bongos and I know of at least two using the default action buttons
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18:46.57benIs there a way to profile my script to see whether those OnAttributeChanged handlers need a lot of CPU time?
18:46.58Whinewhisperhttp://img209.imageshack.us/img209/641/cleantollkz1.jpg hmm what bartexture and colour exactly is that
18:47.03cncfanaticsben, u'd have to code individualy for each addon anyway
18:47.29cncfanaticshmmm, is there a possiblity to call a function when a state changes ?
18:47.38bencncfanatics: I have a get_button(id) function that tries BT3Button..id, BongosActionButton..id, ActionButton..id
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18:47.47benI figure adding new action bar addons to that is rather easy
18:47.56cncfanaticsdepends how the addon is written
18:48.14benI guess supporting infinibar might be tricky, but I never met anyone using that anyway
18:48.18Xinhuandepends on whether the buttons use any of the default 120 buttons too
18:48.28cncfanaticsben, FlexBar ?
18:48.35Sarozok, next to eachother, my cartographer and pitbull is fucked up, one by one they are fine.. wtf how can that happen
18:48.37nevcairielnobody uses flexbar either :shrug:
18:48.39benMy cooldown event handler only checks the 120 ids for now anyway.
18:48.43cncfanaticsnevcairiel, die :)
18:48.49cncfanaticsben, if u ever want to support flexbar u'll get problems
18:48.49benI totally used the pre-2.0 flexbar and they called me crazy
18:48.57cncfanaticsben, i'm rewriting it :)
18:49.06bencncfanatics: Okay, how do I properly iterate through all your buttons?
18:49.14Xinhuanfeel free to support my bar addon too
18:49.20Xinhuani've got one as well ;p
18:49.22cncfanaticsall buttons are stored in FlexBar2.Buttons
18:49.27cncfanaticsthe problem is, I don't use actionid's
18:49.35bencncfanatics: I figured
18:49.53cncfanaticsthe good news being
18:49.57cncfanaticsI wrote my own GetActionCooldown method
18:50.04benI currently store all my images in a hash that maps button ids to them
18:50.07cncfanaticsso u'd loop through every button in FlexBar2.Buttons
18:50.17Arcaia>.>
18:50.21cncfanaticsand call Button:GetActionCooldown on them to get the cooldown
18:50.23cncfanaticspretty simple
18:50.25benYeah
18:50.50cncfanaticscan help you more with it if needed
18:50.55ben"for _, btn in ipairs(Flexbar2.Buttons)" seems appropriate, then?
18:51.01benpairs/ipairs still confuse me
18:51.19cncfanaticsu'd use pairs instead of ipairs
18:51.24cncfanaticsexcept for that its correct
18:51.27benOkay.
18:51.43benPairs bit me sometimes a while ago when some lua function would store n=#mytable in the table :[
18:51.44cncfanaticsalso, realize that u won't get a frame using that, but an object
18:51.57cncfanaticsto access the frame u'd do btn.Frame
18:52.17benOh, now I need to figure out how to get the texture from your frame.
18:52.36benDo you have a custom GetActionTexture() function too?
18:53.08cncfanaticsyea
18:53.13benAwesome
18:53.22cncfanaticsI pretty much emulated all of blizzard's actionbar stuff
18:53.36cncfanaticsthough, why use the texture when u can use spell names ?
18:53.38cncfanaticsWAY easyer
18:53.47cncfanaticsthat includes bartender too btw
18:53.53benHuh
18:54.01benIs that not going to break for macros and stuff?
18:54.06cncfanaticshmmmmmm
18:54.16cncfanaticshmmm, might indeed
18:54.18benmytexture:SetTexture(GetActionTexture(id)) seems rather easy to me
18:54.31Xinhuanfeel free to support my bar addon too: http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=370
18:54.53cncfanaticstrue
18:55.04cncfanaticsits btn:GetActionTexture for fb, on a side note xD
18:55.18cncfanaticsbtw, u just made me spot a bug with stance switching
18:55.20cncfanaticsthanks for that
18:55.22Xinhuani only have 33 buttons, numbered from "IPopBarButton1" to "IPopBarButton33"
18:55.27HjalteBah. I asked a GM if reports were still useful after an hour because that's what Spamsentry can be set to and he asked me not to use addons for reporting >.<
18:55.42benXinhuan: Do they use action ids?
18:55.45Xinhuanyes
18:55.49benOkay, cool
18:55.54Xinhuanit emulates the default ui buttons
18:56.01cncfanaticsbtw ben, if u liked the old flexbar u should try FB2 when its rdy
18:56.05cncfanaticsits in beta atm
18:56.11durcyn"
18:56.20durcynignore that, screen fails.
18:56.25bencncfanatics: Is it usable already?
18:56.29cncfanaticsben, very usable
18:56.38benOkay, I will install it :)
18:56.40cncfanaticshas a nice gui and old-style fb1 slashcommands too
18:56.57cncfanaticssomeone, can u somehow trigger something when the state changes ?
18:57.15cncfanaticsinstead of relying on the old OnAttributeChanged CRAP
18:59.52sbsag_ich_nicht!
18:59.56Xinhuani don't think so cnc
19:00.24Xinhuanblizzard uses like blanket update functions
19:00.30Xinhuanandthus events
19:00.46cncfanaticssigh
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19:01.00cncfanaticsguess i'll register shapeshift events
19:01.06cncfanaticsand then check of the button is listening to them
19:01.18cncfanaticsactualy, I can't
19:01.27cncfanaticscuz the secure attribute stuff might be done after me
19:01.29Xinhuanyou could look in securetemplates.lua first though
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19:01.44cncfanaticsI am atm
19:02.00Xinhuanthe safest way is always to hook the function, which sets an OnUpdate to run on the next frame
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19:02.11Xinhuanthat gaurantees your function to run after
19:02.14Xinhuanand only once
19:03.48cncfanaticsor I could do in OnAttributeChanged, check if the statechanged there
19:03.53cncfanaticsand if it did, update the button
19:03.58Xinhuanor in this case, register the event rather than hook the function
19:04.09bencncfanatics: Why do buttons jump away from the cursor when I click to drag&drop them?
19:04.15cncfanaticsben, they do ? :o
19:04.26benYeah :[
19:04.34cncfanaticsweird, they don't here :p
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19:06.14cncfanaticsben, u used WAU to install it ?
19:06.54cc-workwhich folder does the new WAU1.9 install to?
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19:07.51Sarozok who knows a little about LibRock?
19:07.55cncfanaticsSaroz, I do
19:08.00BrunersH:\Documents and Settings\Username\Start Menu\Programs\WowAce.com
19:08.12Sarozcncfanatics:
19:08.12Sarozlocal function initAddon(addon, name)
19:08.15Sarozaddon is a string
19:08.21Sarozit's not suppose to be
19:08.45cncfanaticssec
19:08.59Sarozname = addonToFolder[addon] or name or ""
19:08.59Saroz-- TOC checks
19:08.59Sarozif addon.title == nil then
19:09.02Sarozexplain that..
19:09.03Sarozseriously
19:09.34Sarozmakes no sense what so ever
19:09.46cc-workwhich folder does the new WAU1.9 install to, i can't find the .exe file.
19:10.41ben.exe files are sooo 1990s
19:10.47bencncfanatics:
19:10.50bencncfanatics: Yes I did
19:11.09cncfanaticsben, weird, let me check myself
19:12.18Sarozcncfanatics, thoughts?
19:12.36cncfanaticsSaroz, can't even find the code u told me, sec
19:12.39cncfanaticsfixing ben's problem
19:12.41cncfanaticsben, whats ur UIscale ?
19:12.50Fisker-internet
19:12.52Fisker-hate
19:12.54Fisker-machine
19:12.59cncfanaticsits working fine for me
19:13.01SarozLibRock-1.0 around 2222
19:13.11cncfanaticsbut the dragging code does some UIscale calculations, so it might be wrong on weirdish scales
19:13.12benUh, the slider is almost in the middle.
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19:13.46cncfanaticsworks fine for me :/
19:14.10NickenyfikenHmm weirdness, FuBar was working before but not anymore...
19:14.19cncfanaticsben
19:14.24cncfanaticstry removing ur FB2 folder
19:14.35cncfanaticsand using http://files.wowace.com/FlexBar2/FlexBar2.zip
19:14.38cncfanaticsmaybe WAU messed up, I dunno
19:14.45cncfanaticshaven't touched that code in ages, using a branchh
19:14.45benOkay
19:14.53benThanks :)
19:14.56Brunerscncfanatics: reinstalling fubar worked with the error btw
19:15.19cncfanaticsBruners, good news :)
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19:17.57Sarozseriously I don't see logic in this
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19:19.16cncfanaticsSaroz, of ?
19:19.28Sarozwhat I posted
19:19.51SarozrunMainAddonLoadedChunk, calls initAddon, with a string as first arg
19:19.52SarozWHY
19:20.01bencncfanatics: Actually it works 97% better after I ran wowaceupdater again. Apparently the last update broke something, a bunch of other addons broke too!
19:20.04benSorry for startling you.
19:20.14cncfanaticsWAU is a mess
19:20.16XinhuanSaroz: why not?
19:20.35Sarozcause a few seconds later he does: if addon.title == nil then
19:20.54Sarozlocal function initAddon(addon, name)
19:20.54Sarozname = addonToFolder[addon] or name or ""
19:20.54Saroz-- TOC checks
19:20.54Sarozif addon.title == nil then
19:20.57Sarozto be precise
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19:21.09Saroz... on a string, but if it's not suppose to be a string, what the hell is it
19:21.14Xinhuanah
19:21.19Xinhuanthat's in librock?
19:21.21Sarozyes
19:21.31nevcairielyou like eye-cancer Saroz?
19:21.33Sarozgot sick of the errors now
19:21.45Xinhuanwe can probably get ckknight to fix it when he gets back
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19:22.04Saroz~seen ckknight
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19:22.13Saroz!!
19:22.13Xinhuanby the way, are you sure addon is a STRING?
19:22.20Sarozyes
19:22.28Xinhuanis there an assert check that its a string?
19:22.30Sarozattempt to index local 'addon' (a string value)
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19:22.57cncfanaticsgood idea, add an assert to make sure its a string
19:22.59Sarozthat string being SetCommPrefix.. which is even more wierd
19:23.00cncfanaticsin Rock's code
19:23.20Sarozthe value of "addon" is "SetCommPrefix"
19:23.23Saroz....
19:23.30Xinhuanlol
19:23.32Xinhuansounds like a mess
19:23.36Sarozmy thoughts exactly
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19:24.14Xinhuanwhat's the calling function?
19:24.19SarozrunMainAddonLoadedChunk
19:24.25Xinhuanand what calls that?
19:24.51SarozADDOn_LOADED or an OnUpdate function
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19:25.07Sarozyes, ADDON_LOADED
19:25.24Xinhuanwhich addon's ADDON_LOADED is it failing on?
19:25.28Punkie`~whalenuke Fisker-
19:25.28purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers
19:25.30SarozPitbull
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19:25.52cncfanaticssure u updated everything ?
19:25.56Sarozyes
19:26.07Sarozand... listen to this
19:26.14SarozI enable cart alone, runs fine
19:26.17SarozI enable pitbull alone
19:26.19Sarozruns fine
19:26.24SarozI enable both, blows up
19:26.37Sarozand yes, both are updated, unless SVN is out of sync
19:26.46cncfanaticsnot using WAU ?
19:26.50Saroznoh
19:26.52Sarozdev.wowace.com
19:26.56cncfanaticsthen I dunno
19:26.57cncfanaticsweird
19:27.02Saroz:p
19:27.32Fisker-~whalemutuallyassureddestruction Punkie`
19:27.33NickenyfikenUh MoneyFu is broken :-/
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19:27.39Sarozworks here
19:27.41Fisker-bah
19:27.42Fisker-madness
19:28.26NickenyfikenHmm it does?
19:28.33Sarozyup
19:28.39Sarozfubar being the ONE thing that never broke for me
19:28.41NickenyfikenHow is it possible? :-P
19:28.52Xinhuanwasn't it fixed yesterday?
19:29.04NickenyfikenFuBar work fine
19:29.26NickenyfikenAuditorFu wasn't working for me so i installed MoneyFu and got the same damn error
19:29.38NickenyfikenMoneyFu.frame = MoneyFu:CreateBasicPluginFrame("MoneyFuFrame") seems to bork out
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19:32.26cncfanaticsben, liking FB ?
19:32.56Fisker-OMG
19:32.56Fisker-- New argument (bool), setting it to true will retrieve all auction house data (not just 50 items). This can only be used once every 15 minutes. This is intended to reduce our load from add-ons such as auctioneer that are going to download the entire auction house anyways.
19:32.57Fisker-:O
19:32.59Fisker-DO WANT
19:33.18Xinhuano_O
19:33.19XinhuanLINK
19:33.20XinhuanLINK
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19:34.03nevcairielwtf
19:34.04charonargh... bad memories... void ... FLASH FLASH FLASH ... reaver FLASH FLASH FLASH ...
19:34.05nevcairielreal?
19:34.15Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=879058320&pageNo=3&sid=1#56
19:34.16Xinhuanyeah, screenshot or it didn't happen
19:34.30XinhuanAn error was encountered while processing your request
19:34.30Xinhuan[The forum you're trying to access is not ready]
19:34.34nevcairielyes its true
19:34.37nevcairielslouken said it
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19:34.38nevcairielamazing
19:34.46nevcairielhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/879058320.htm
19:35.31cncfanatics<3 Slouken
19:35.35Fisker-btw
19:35.46Fisker-it seems like we'll be able to multi-attach items now
19:35.47JoshBorkeit's a good move
19:35.50Fisker-When composing mail, there are now “slotsâ€, that you can drag items into (1 is the first slot, 2 is the second slot, etc). Once the mail arrives, you use an “index†to refer to each attachment.
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19:36.23cncfanatics<3
19:36.26cncfanaticshope ur not trolling
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19:36.45Fisker-well it might just be referring to letter attachements with an item
19:36.46Fisker-but
19:36.49Fisker-GetSendMailPrice()
19:36.49Fisker-- No change for parameters, but note that the cost of sending mail now changes depending on how many items have been attached.
19:37.00Corussquestion for you folks, is there any known issue between tankpoints and stubby?
19:38.43cncfanaticsnot as far as I know Coruss
19:39.12fropsomeone know what could broke the Shift+LeftClick link of objects? maybe Prat?
19:40.40fropi can't nomore liks items :P
19:41.17JoshBorkedisable prat and see if it is?
19:41.20cncfanaticstry disabling it ?
19:41.55cncfanaticsok, time to try out my new code
19:41.59cncfanaticstests if a state changed
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19:42.21fropi'll try...it need a relog i guess...
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19:47.03Corusscncfanatics: looks like its tankpoints specific, I disabled everything else and it still blows up on a mouseover
19:48.06cncfanaticsCoruss, send a bug report to tankpoints author ?
19:48.10cncfanaticsand in the meantime, get an older version that works
19:48.20Corussjust trying to find the author now
19:48.38CorussI'm not reliant on it, so I've just disabled it
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19:48.55Corussbut I'll want it once I switch back to prot
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19:49.08cncfanaticsCoruss, get an older version
19:49.25Xinhuando you really need an addon to calculate for you whether an item is better for tanking or not?
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19:49.54bencncfanatics: Goddamnit, now you forced me to use proper ~OOP and redesign all my structures so they support both regular buttons and flexbar buttons <:)
19:50.13fropno...it's not Prat...semms
19:50.16benXinhuan: Yes I do, what of it? <:[
19:51.12Xinhuanwell i thought it might be better to see your overall stats to see whether you need more dodge, block, def or parry, than to use a "tank points number" to see if a piece ofgear is better :)
19:51.21Mudkipzhi
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19:51.29fropwell, there's HunterAEP...there could be also a tankpoints addons ;)
19:51.55CIA-2203ulic * r49235 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Capacitus.lua Ironhand.lua): LittleWigs: Added deDE from AgentRocket
19:52.16cncfanaticsben :p
19:52.19cncfanaticsproper OOP ?
19:52.22cncfanaticsi'm using a custom OO engine :p
19:52.35ckknighthey all, back
19:52.35bencncfanatics: Well, I just used the buttons to hold a bunch of extra data
19:52.45benbut now they need metatables and stuff so they know how to update their textures
19:53.02phyberckknight: PitBull-2.0r49200\Aura\Aura.lua:1183: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink")
19:53.05phyberLibRockTimer-1.0-51719:296: in function <...ns\CowTip\libs\LibRockTimer-1.0\LibRockTimer-1.0.lua:227>
19:53.07Stan__wb ckk
19:53.08phyberthis fixed?
19:53.29cncfanaticsben, u used FB's buttons ?
19:53.34Paradoxanyone able to name the addons in this shot for me? I want to try and remake it: http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/3613/wowscrnshot072607021240ew7.jpg
19:53.39cncfanaticsbad idea to change another addon's stuff with ur addon, might break stuf
19:53.48cncfanaticsbtw, u could write a flexbar module for that, would make stuff for u easyer
19:53.52bencncfanatics: No, I did not mean that.
19:54.07bencncfanatics: My own frames that looked like your buttons
19:54.09ckknightphyber: :-(
19:54.13Pkekyohttp://pastebin.org/2747 ahah, I love this shit :)
19:54.17cncfanaticsah ben
19:54.19cncfanaticsnvm me then
19:54.23SirowParadox: Which addon?
19:54.29cncfanaticsbtw, u'd have a WAY easyer time using a fb module for handling flexbar
19:54.35Corusscncfanatics: odd, I grabbed the release off Curse and it still breaks
19:54.53phyberckknight: think it happened when I did a Superior Wizard Oil flask on weapon, but I wasn't paying attention.
19:54.54Paradoxunit frames, the 'boxes', the chatmod, the bars, those timers he has, raid frame
19:54.54ckknightphyber: do you not have a mainhand?
19:55.01phyberyes, I have a mainhand ;)
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19:55.08phyberit's what I put the oil one
19:55.10phybers/one/on/
19:55.24CIA-2203Tristan * r49236 10Enhancer/ (AddOn.lua Events.lua Frames.lua Functions.lua):
19:55.24CIA-22Enhancer:
19:55.24CIA-22- After loads of swearing frames should now be able to snap when moved in the vicinity of each other.
19:55.24cncfanaticss/using/writing/
19:56.38SirowParadox: Grid, eitther Pitbull or AG_Unitframes, I think Elkanos Buffbars, Bars COULD be Bartender3. As for the Background don't know, may be ee_panles with custom texture
19:56.59Paradoxmmm right thanks a lot
19:57.01Sirowparadox: Oh yeah chatmod could be prat
19:57.16cncfanaticsben, saw my last msg ?
19:57.41bencncfanatics: Ah, no.
19:57.41CIA-2203ckknight * r49237 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - make sure one's mainhand exists before checking if it has a buff on it.
19:57.43benWhat do you mean?
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19:58.24ParadoxSirow: do you know if there's an addon to help with positioning things on screen like eepanels? getting them in the center of the screen, aligned properly etc?
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19:58.56phyberckknight: I take it means that the mainhand doesn't exist for a brief time after applying a buff on it? :o
19:59.00cncfanaticsflexbar is modular ben
19:59.09phybersomeone stoleing it :(
19:59.10cncfanaticsu could write a module for flexbar that does what u want WAY easyer then what ur doing now
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19:59.29SirowParadox: I can remember there is one (Ace) addon to show each and every addon frame and that there is some kind of "Grid" addon on wowinterface, but I really don't know their names :(
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19:59.45bencncfanatics: Yeah, but that is not going to work for Bartender3 and friends 9_
19:59.47ben8)
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20:00.18Paradoxok ;3
20:00.31PaeneAnyone here work on BossWhisperer?
20:00.40yssarilanyone know if ckknight finished the new fubarplugin? i didn't see it on files.wowace.com page
20:00.57SirowParadox: Ok first one was http://files.wowace.com/NShakedown, never used it myself though
20:01.07Paradoxsec boss
20:01.56ckknightnot yet, yssaril
20:01.58cncfanaticsben, make it a module if FlexBar2 is loaded, do it the normal way if its not ?
20:02.01ckknightI've been busy dealing with users
20:02.06cncfanaticshmmm actualy, that'd lead to extra code :(
20:02.18yssarilckknight: stop listening to them and start coding :)
20:03.00SirowParadox: The other one(s) were Align and SnapToGrid both on wowinterface
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20:08.15cc-workwhich folder does the new WAU1.9 install to, i can't find the .exe file.
20:09.00Mikkstart -> search ?
20:09.04cncfanaticscc-work, rerun the install but instead of completig it just check what folder it uses ?
20:09.30CIA-2203Tristan * r49238 10Enhancer/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
20:09.30CIA-22Enhancer:
20:09.30CIA-22- Sadly enough I again left loads of debug/print messages in there I used when I worked on the snapping
20:09.30CIA-22- Also I added a toggle for snap or not so you don't have to snap
20:10.03Tornhoofsomewhere in documents and folders cc-work
20:10.33cc-workcncfanatics: the new wau1.9 doesnt let u choose what DIR
20:10.39cc-workall it does is put it in ur Start Menu
20:10.52cc-workthat icon on the startmenu doesn't even have a linked EXE
20:11.07cc-worki like the oldstyle where i can just unzip the DIR to anywhere and run the exe..
20:11.30Tornhoofit auto installs it into the user's dot.net directory where those executables for several dot net apps are saved
20:11.33Tornhoofyou can still do that
20:11.36CIA-2203ckknight * r49239 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add some fixes to handle the core LibRock-1.0 library creation.
20:12.08Tornhoofjust rename the supplied wau file and put it into some directory, it breaks auto updates though
20:12.16cc-workTornhoof: ah i c...the new installer stinks..
20:13.10Tornhoofthe file you need to rename is called .deploy
20:13.26cc-workto .exe ?
20:13.28Sirowgood luck my PC doesn't emulate smelling :)
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20:13.31Tornhoofyeh
20:13.49Tornhoofsame with the config file
20:14.06cc-worklol damn
20:14.11cc-workimma just use the old version
20:14.11Tornhoofjust remove the .deploy ending from every file you can find ;)
20:14.17cc-workbefore this stupid "new style"
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20:16.35GnarfozTornhoof: still, it will put the link into the start menu root, which sucks
20:17.38cc-workyah the new style stinks
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20:18.26SirowAre you talking about WAU 1.9.x or 2.0, haven't updated yet?
20:19.14Tornhoofit won't gnarfoz?
20:19.46Tornhoofor nev added that some versions ago, which i didn't update to
20:20.35cc-work1.944
20:20.45cc-workthey made wau into a manifest style
20:21.09cc-workbut the stupid setup.exe addition is super lame
20:21.20cc-workwau1.944 should just remove the setup.exe
20:21.31cc-workjust install the application data like the old way
20:22.03CIA-2203arrowmaster * r49240 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/UrlCopy.lua: Prat: UrlCopy: updated patterns again and fixed some whitespace inconsistancies in the source (some of which I know were my fault)
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20:22.37SaiBorkhey all
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20:22.56SaiBorki have a little problem with my code
20:23.19Pkekyodoes +crit from scopes give meelee +crit or only ranged +crit?
20:23.28SaiBorkeverything works like a charm, but blizz does something weird with the loot messages (money loots)
20:24.44SaiBorkanyone interested in a little look, cause i really dont have a clue
20:24.44Xinhuanonly ranged cri
20:24.44Xinhuancrit
20:24.44Fisker-phew
20:24.44Fisker-that was hard
20:24.47Fisker-magtheridon with 5 healers and 4 tanks
20:26.03Fisker-btw my memory stayed below 50MB
20:26.14Fisker-usually around 65-70 on boss fights
20:26.35cncfanaticsSaiBork, tbh, ur not gonna get any replies that way, just tell me us what error ur getting and we might help, don't ask to ask :p
20:26.37cncfanatics~asktoask
20:26.37purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
20:27.03NickenyfikenCan someone explain why i get FuBar_MoneyFu\MoneyFu.lua:32: attempt to call method 'CreateBasicPluginFrame' (a nil value) the first time i log in with a character but then its gone :-P
20:27.34NickenyfikenAddons fix themselves :-)
20:27.40SaiBorkwell, i have no idea why its going wrong, it doesnt give an error, but instead of saying:  You loot 14 Copper, it says You loot 14
20:27.41NeoTronFisker-: "yay we killed vashj. Got some time to spare, let's kill Mags". [later] "damn it this is the third wipe on mags, wtf?"
20:27.45NeoTronthat was fun
20:28.06SaiBorkalso in the loot window it shows the appropriate money icon + just the number
20:28.23Fisker-haha NeoTron
20:28.34Fisker-it was awesome
20:29.03SaiBorki do stuff in the gametooltip of items and i have info in a frame made by myself
20:29.18Fisker-probably my best magtheridon fight eve
20:29.23SaiBorkso i really dont get it, why it changes the loot window+message (on money loot)
20:29.55Fisker-now for some TF2
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20:31.44SirowSaiBork: Try adding a Debug message when you add something to your gametooltip and see if it fires when you loot something. No other idea :(
20:32.48SaiBorkthat wont work, because i add money text (item values) to the tooltip, so i add text
20:32.51Silviu-Fisker- wtf ... same for us .. today .. i mean we killed all including Terron and all including Azgalor, then we decided let`s go today Mag .. atm 3`rd wipe :)
20:33.04SirowHorrray, LibAvion-1.0, LibAvionAddin-1.0 and AvionSharedMedia finished, now I just have to write a damn addon using it >_>
20:33.08Silviu-Afk try 4 inc
20:33.09Silviu-:/
20:33.58SaiBorksometimes when i loot more, like 2s 3c, it says it like:  2, 3.  (with an orange , and a lightgrey .  my colours from the tooltip naming the other way around)
20:34.22SaiBorkso it does something with my naming, but no idea why its even going through that code
20:36.12Speeddymonanyone know of an addon that will let me use ClearFont2 to change the ChatFrame font?
20:36.14cncfanaticsSirow, what they do ?
20:36.29SirowSaiBork: I know I gonna regret that... :P Could you post your addon?
20:37.12Silviu-Haha ... wipe 4
20:37.18Silviu-Ok no more :)
20:37.29SaiBorkits not that bad Sirow :P
20:37.42SaiBorkbut its more than one file its messing with
20:38.43Sirowcnc: Mainly what http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Avion did, but now as lib so others can use it, like Parrot *HINT AR CKK :D*
20:38.43SirowAvion-1.0 is just a "core", you can trigger an animation and do sme basic stuff. and AvionAddin-1.0 add some things to Avion-1.0, like options that every addon can use, so they don't have to write their own
20:38.52Speeddymoncorrection, anyone know of an addon that will let me change the chatframe font size separately from the rest of the fonts in the ui, while still using clearfont for the font?
20:39.09ckknightyea, people have been bitching to put Avion-style animations into Parrot
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20:39.59benHow am I supposed to debug my addon if Fubar keeps throwing LibRockLocale errors >:[
20:40.05SirowOh man, I should really read my sentences before posting >_<
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20:40.24aestilpeople ckk?  what people?
20:40.26Raydenhttp://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/09/comic0001-full.jpg
20:40.26Raydenheh
20:40.36ckknightaestil: people
20:41.07Speeddymonlol ben i feel ya
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20:44.07Kuja^ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/74041
20:44.30ckknighthrm
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20:45.29SaiBorkSirow, please tell me you got a clue ;)
20:46.05SirowSaiBork: Didn't get any file ?_?
20:46.23SaiBorkcheck messages, i pastey-d them
20:46.45SaiBorkor do you want the full thing, its only a couple of kBs
20:47.21Sirowhm I didn't get any message, could you send the link again?
20:47.58Antiarcyaaaaaaaaaaaaaay monitor
20:48.18SaiBorknot getting the dcc send either?
20:48.24SaiBork[22:41] <SaiBork> http://ace.pastey.net/74039
20:48.24SaiBork[22:42] <SaiBork> http://ace.pastey.net/74040
20:48.24SaiBork[22:42] <SaiBork> the second uses the first for values in a list
20:48.39Sirowthx
20:48.59SirowI think I have DCC disabled, or its a Problem with my Client (Miranda)
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20:49.42SaiBorkhttp://www.saibork.net/Values.zip
20:49.50SaiBorkif you want the whole thing for a better look
20:50.07Nickenyfikenckknight: I suspect that PitBull_DruidManaBar miss LibGratuity-3.0 as a dependency
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20:54.03benjaIs the limit on the number of macros you can create something that  can be bypassed with an addon?
20:54.07benjaor is that simply impossible
20:54.56dylanm!api RunMacroText
20:54.57ThraeBotdylanm:  RunMacroText("/cast Immolate")  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_RunMacroText
20:55.09SirowSaiBork: I didn't use AceHook very much, but you could try doing
20:55.09Sirowlocal result = self.hooks[tooltip].OnTooltipSetItem(tooltip)
20:55.09Sirowbetween line 43,44 and when finishing your own changes do
20:55.09Sirowreturn result
20:55.09Sirowso you can be sure your changes are the lat one done.
20:55.10SirowI'd also try using
20:55.12Sirowself:Debug(itemName) in function OnTooltipSetItem and see what happens when looting something (like gold)
20:55.15Raydenyou guys see that a rogue sold for $9500?
20:55.27durcynRayden: yep.  account's already banned too.
20:55.34Raydenowned :)
20:55.39dylanmbenja: That help?
20:55.53Sirowlol XD
20:56.24benjaMaybe.  i'll have to look into it.  it seems weird that this wouldn't already exist.  there were a few but they're no longer maintained
20:56.31benja(and not ace obviously)
20:56.47SirowWell, I it really went for $9500 I'd go to court...
20:56.56SirowI = If
20:56.59Raydenwith what argument?
20:57.14Tornhoofit sold for 7k euro or something
20:57.18dylanmbenja: I really don't have more than like two macros for every character these days. Doesn't seem to be a common problem. Could be wrong.
20:57.19Tornhoofyeh sick
20:57.20Raydenblizzard can ban for any reason
20:57.29Raydenyour contract you signed states that
20:58.31SirowIn germany someone buying a character from an leveling company won the court. I can't remeber the rason...
20:58.44Raydenthey won the right to get their character unbanned?
20:58.48bendylanm: I have macros for all my healing spells, so that they target=targettarget if my target is hostile. Is there a better way for that?
20:58.50Sirowyup
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20:59.24Sirowit was on wowszene.de if I remeber right, perhabs I can find it again...
21:00.20benjaI do the same thing as ben, but I use focus and focus target.  I know there is an add-on that will default to targettarget is hostile for heals
21:00.35benjathat would cut out like 9 macros :p
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21:01.42BankZDo you guys normaly set WAU to audo download depenances?
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21:02.35Kody-http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/crysis/beta/index.aspx crysis beta keys being given out now
21:02.58SaiBorkSirow, doesnt matter
21:03.20SirowI found it, google translation is probably kind of worse: http://tinyurl.com/2yw63z
21:03.31SaiBorkbut as i said, i also have it with the second link (which uses the first for the values, but does nothing with the tooltips)
21:04.12dylanmben: Gosh, dunno. It seems like the sort of thing that should be possible. I use Clique for all of my healing so I really don't know what's out there.
21:04.45cladhaireyou can do all of that with clique too
21:05.06stavmarout of curiosity in the forums i see miniature pictures or screen shots. How does one actually do that in the WoWAce Forums?
21:05.09SaiBorkit works fine untill i use a tooltip (lootwindow or not doesnt matter) or the list from my own frame (2nd link)
21:05.20cladhairei love targettarget macros :P
21:06.18SirowSaiBork: My only clue is, that your Addon treats money just like all other items which raises this problem. If I understand it correctly ;)
21:06.32BankZDo you guys normaly set WAU to audo download depenances?  didnt it used to download the libs in the addon that used it folder?
21:06.49dylanmcladhaire: I know you can assign macros to clique actions but I don't think that's what they're asking.
21:07.11SaiBorklet me take some screens
21:07.46cladhaireyeah i'm trying to understand too :P
21:08.42dylanmUgh Mal'Ganis is down again whyyy
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21:11.57SaiBorkright:  full naming
21:11.58CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r49241 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/ (. Cartographer_nnTrainers.toc embeds.xml nnTrainers.lua): Cartographer_nnTrainers: Gratuity-2.0 -> LibGratuity-3.0
21:12.09SaiBorkwrong: just the numbers
21:13.22mykxSaiBork what xp bar is that?
21:13.31SaiBorkmine! :P
21:13.39mykxah I like it
21:13.50SaiBorkit used to be avgxp something bloated
21:14.02SaiBorki made it smaller and just neat like its now
21:14.16mykxhave you released it or is it something personal ?
21:14.17SaiBorkrested xp is green and also stated in text
21:14.26SaiBorkyou can have it if you want to
21:14.31mykxyeah please :)
21:14.38SaiBorknot released to public on any sites
21:14.43Sirowhm
21:16.41BankZIs Rock Configuration new?
21:16.42SaiBorkweird huh
21:17.00mykxyou should release it, looks real good
21:17.20SaiBorkthanks
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21:21.01SirowNeed to find vendor >_<
21:21.19SaiBorkwhy do you need a vendor? :P
21:21.27SaiBorkwant the price list for your wtf? ;)
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21:22.28SaiBorkhttp://www.saibork.net/ValuesDATA.zip
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21:22.30Sirowallready found one ^^
21:22.38SaiBorkhehe ok
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21:23.32AeyanI should trim some of the bloat out of my addon
21:23.37SaiBorki currently have 5,360 items listed
21:23.48Aeyan478b
21:23.52AeyanJust ain't feeling it yet
21:23.54SirowDoes this bug only happen when looting gold or also on other conditions?
21:24.05wodenguys i am setting up a timer bar ass i do not always want all the information that Necb gives me
21:24.14wodeni've been messing around with class timers and chronometer
21:24.22SaiBorkitems always show up normal and complete, so its only when there is money involved
21:24.29SaiBorkgold/silver/copper
21:24.31wodeni prefare chronometer i have a question though about what is displayed in the bar
21:24.55SaiBorknever gives any error while looting either
21:24.57wodenon class timers its %s (%a) giving me the special and any number of the debufs it seems like lacerate stacking
21:24.57AeyanWhat about it?
21:25.02mykxDoTimer ftw :P
21:25.12wodenon chronomter though ic an't seem to get the number of buffs debuffs up
21:25.24wodenwith %a or $a or anything similar. Is there anything i should be doing?
21:25.33Aeyanwoden: That's pretty dodgey in chronometer
21:25.34NeoTronDoTimer is functionally good, but... ugh
21:25.39NeoTronimplementation is not so good
21:25.47SirowHave to switch to main, level 1 can't kill anything giving gold ^^
21:25.55SaiBorkhehe
21:25.59AeyanChronometer just reads from the chat log, so it's difficult to determine how many things are stacked
21:26.09wodenah ok thats a shame ah well
21:26.12Diren_does anyone know if it is possible to show milliseconds as well in prat-timestamps?
21:26.15TNSehmm
21:26.20AeyanClasstimers reads from the api
21:26.31TNSehow wrong would it be to profile darkmoon card: wrath like 17*(1/crit rating)/2
21:26.31AeyanSo it's more accurate, but you lose some other stuff
21:26.46wodeni prefared the look and feel of chronometer when i was messing about
21:26.47AeyanLike how's it's player and target only
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21:27.09Antiarchttp://i19.tinypic.com/35dbvxj.jpg
21:27.09Antiarc:(
21:27.27AeyanAwwwww
21:27.58AeyanHe shall live on in my photobucket =(
21:27.59Aeyanhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/bucket.jpg
21:28.25wodenideally i'd like necb that just monitors my own stuff in one area but also monitors the other stuff it picks up in a not so focused area
21:28.32Ackisso yah cool... stack overflow ftl O_o
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21:31.06Ackisis there an internal limit to the size of tables in wow?
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21:31.53SirowAckis: I only managed to get stack overflow once and that was while blowing up a table in an OnUpdate script
21:32.20ckknightstack overflows are to do with function calling mostly, not tables
21:32.35Ackisi managed to crash pine on my unix computers, so I can do everything bad lol
21:32.56Ackisok i thought it may have been me trying to shove too much into my array of tables
21:34.10SirowSaiBork: Ok reproduces error, trying for find the prob now ^^
21:35.12orionshockgood morning
21:35.49SaiBorkmorning
21:36.39SirowHello World ;P
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21:37.04orionshock.. seems things are getting back to normal
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21:39.15Gnarfoznecrosis-like addon that works completely while in combat?
21:39.30ramozno such thing Gnarfoz :P
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21:40.02Gnarfozramoz: why? make one! :<
21:40.24ggilbertGnarfoz: As of 2.0, it's not possible to completely duplicate it
21:40.34Gnarfozwhat's missing?
21:41.15GnarfozI'm not even looking for it myself, I didn't use necrosis before 2.0, but some guy in my guild is using an old version of it and complains ;>
21:41.34SirowSaiBork: Fixed, I think it has something to do with using globals instead of locals OR return the same variable you are calling it.
21:42.05ggilbertThe biggest limiter is that you can no longer make buttons change during combat.
21:42.16Ackisi'm making a trade skill mod thingy add-on and while i'm doing it all my guildmates want me to make them stuff O_o /sigh
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21:42.26Speeddymonbankz, to answer your questions, WAU will download the libs if you set auto externals, if not, it will download them as separate addons
21:42.26ggilbertWhich affects things like the healthstone buttons
21:42.27orionshock@ckknight: seems your upgrade to rock in /trunk has sounded a wake up call... bout time tbh
21:43.07ckknightto whom?
21:43.14Speeddymonbankz: also, yes librock is new.. its the future of ace (there is controversy over whether it is worthwhile though, as many people like it, and many (like myself) don't..
21:43.23ramozGnarfoz: well, tell him to use Nerconicom2 or something, does exactly the same (SS doesnt work in combat tho, and doesnt show cooldown for HS or SS)
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21:43.35ramozNecronomicon2
21:43.50Gnarfozhm
21:43.51orionshockckknight: to alot, the call for /tags to be used for stable releases and WUA / files to pull from it
21:43.51ckknightSpeeddymon: you just miss dropdowns.
21:43.57orionshockto use /trunk as a override
21:44.07Gnarfozyeah, that's what he's complaining about, why isn't SS creation in combat possible? :D
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21:44.20ckknightah. I put it in trunk so that people _could_ use it and test it and work the kinks out before WoW 2.2
21:44.22SirowSaiBork: http://ace.pastey.net/74043
21:44.28ramozSS creation works, but not using the SS :P
21:45.15orionshock@garfoz / ramoz : i had a lock addon once that allowed me to left click to create and right click to use - in combat no less
21:45.23nogudnikIn case anyone is listening in, making updaters pull from /tags (or /truck only as an option) would be really cool :-) Stable mods for some, crazy half-finished mods for others!
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21:46.04AckisHow long does it take for svn access, and once done, is it allowed to ask people to review code?
21:46.18ckknightum, once you commit
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21:47.21orionshockAckis: ..?
21:47.43HjalteHe means how long he has to wait before he can put code on the svn.
21:47.55Speeddymonnogudnik: I agree.. thats what tags are for..
21:48.02ckknightum, once you get svn access
21:48.07orionshockonce you get your UID/PW it's active
21:48.16Speeddymonackis: pastey the code here, and ask for review, and do that before you commit
21:48.17Ackisyah I'm wondering how long it takes for that usually :)
21:48.32Ackissvn access that is
21:48.34Speeddymondepends on what you reason you gave..
21:48.46Speeddymonit took me 2 tries, and the 2nd time, I was requesting to take over an abandoned mod
21:48.59Speeddymonwhen i did that, it was less than 72 hours, but thats all i remember
21:49.29Ackisahh I mentioned just that I'm writing a new mod and whatnot
21:50.09Speeddymonfucking blizzard
21:50.39SpeeddymonAckis: most likely within 48 hours tbh, unless kaelten doesn't get around to reviewing your application for some reason
21:50.52Speeddymonkey words are most likely tho
21:51.18Speeddymonok im going to play ps2 for a bit while i wait for blizz to get their heads outta their asses and get my realm back up
21:51.54ckknightalright, I'll cya all later
21:52.11Sirowlol, you allready have patchday? In germany its still 23:55 ;D
21:52.13AckisSpeeddymon: It was about 5 days ago, shoudl I send in another mail or just be patient?
21:52.16orionshockah fk me it's tuesday ....
21:52.19orionshock...laters all
21:52.22Ackishttp://ace.pastey.net/74044
21:54.35Ackisthe stack overflow i'm getting is on line 159 fwiw
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22:02.06SirowAckis: I think my SVN account took about one week. ;)
22:02.32yssaril_Ackis: you are calling the same function in that function so you are creating an infinite loop
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22:03.25Ackisyssaril: shouldn't 159 call 149 which in turn calls 133?
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22:04.55yssaril_ackis then you need to change your function names cause right now they are the same
22:05.25Sirowyssaril: This shouldn't be the problem, although I'd try giving each function a unique debug message and see what happens...
22:05.44Ackisyah that's what I'm in the process of doing
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22:06.56SirowAs far as I know polymorphism SHOULD work in lua
22:07.47yssaril_Sirow: hmmm maybe still kinda funkey to read the code if you use it id rather stay away from it just call it func1 and func2 :)
22:08.05yssaril_brb updating vidcarddriver while running wow == not good
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22:08.36Ackislol
22:08.48ckknighthey all
22:08.50Sirowyssaril: yup; lol :D
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22:09.20Sirowhey yourself ;)
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22:09.32Kuja^yo ckknight
22:10.07Sirowgood n8 @ll
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22:11.11AckisYah I'm getting into an infinite loop where my third addtrade function just calls itself... probably because of the nil I'm guessing
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22:12.42Fisker-btw ckknight do you know if slouken is trying to tell us that we'll be able to make multi-attachement mails in 2.3 here? http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/879058320.htm
22:12.48Fisker-Read about the mail api changes :o
22:12.57Fisker-When composing mail, there are now “slotsâ€, that you can drag items into (1 is the first slot, 2 is the second slot, etc). Once the mail arrives, you use an “index†to refer to each attachment.
22:12.58Fisker-:o
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22:13.57Bejitt-it sure sounds like it
22:14.04KemayoI can't see any way to interpret that otherwise.
22:14.17Fisker-first i was thinking those auction house emails
22:14.23Fisker-you get both a letter and an item right?
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22:15.37KemayoYou do, but there's already ways to deal with both of those - I can't see them changing things like this unless they were also going to be letting us do multi-attachments.
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22:16.39buuI tried both!
22:16.45silentium/cast <spell that dismisses pet> ?
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22:17.06Kemayomikma: Be nice. :P
22:17.07yssaril_is wowhead down for anyone else?
22:17.10art3mis<PROTECTED>
22:17.19mikmaKemayo: i am, i have no idea does a command like that even exist :D
22:17.32Fisker-night tiem
22:17.40buuHeh, I'm pretty sure I can't abandon my felguard
22:17.43buuIT might get angry.
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22:19.42ckknight_Fisker-: yea, it looks like multiple attachments could be coming
22:19.50AntiarcSo, question
22:20.18AntiarcIf I could come up with a way to do a 100% complete spell localization, would there be an interest in using that in Babble?
22:20.54AntiarcI wrote a DBC file parser long ago, and I think that since I can read the spell ID and name from the Spells.dbc file, I can automatically build an index of spell localizations
22:21.03AntiarcWhich would be trivial to spit out as Lua tables
22:22.32Paradoxhttp://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6556/wowscrnshot071707190948bn4.jpg
22:22.40Paradoxanyone know what those totem timer bars are at the bottom middle?
22:23.12ckknightAntiarc: oooh
22:23.35[dRaCo]Paradox: Might be GotWood
22:23.45art3miscould be quarts, chonometere or yata or got wood
22:23.46AntiarcThe Spells.dbc schema has changed since I last ran it, but I'm going to see if I can adapt it.
22:23.51art3misthey all look the same ;P
22:23.57Paradoxdoesn't gotwood have a big picture of a peice of wood behind it?
22:24.14[dRaCo]that's just the anchor
22:24.21[dRaCo]once you lock it, its gone
22:24.25Paradoxoh ok
22:24.34Paradoxill try yata anyway
22:24.41[dRaCo]yata's great
22:24.59[dRaCo]but it's got that button bar... some people dont like that
22:25.11art3misi like buttons
22:25.13Paradoxhe seems to have the totem bars showing their cooldown, and then totem buttons next to them for re-casting
22:25.18Paradoxis that the same addon or another?
22:29.20Diaoping Xinhuan
22:29.25AckisSirow: for some reason the first function just keeps calling itself, not sure why becuase it shouldn't
22:29.28Xinhuanpong
22:29.37Diaowhat's the proper rotation for an arcane mage? :o
22:29.44Diaoi remember you talking about it before
22:29.48Xinhuanits pretty simple
22:29.48Diaoand one of my guildies is asking about it
22:30.02Xinhuanthere is a 8 second debuff where you need to wait for the debuff to wear off
22:30.11Xinhuanduring this 8 seconds, you need to cast something else other than AB
22:30.19Diaook
22:30.20Xinhuanthis is typically AM-Scorch
22:30.24Xinhuanwhich takes 6.5sec in total
22:30.31Xinhuanin the remainder 1.5s, you will cast AB
22:30.56Xinhuansuch that you still cast with faster casttime (1.5s with 3 stacked ABs), but it completes casting after the debuff wears off
22:31.02Xinhuanso that you only pay 0-stacked casting cost
22:31.04Diaomm
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22:31.13Diaoso it's abx3 initally
22:31.16Xinhuanso the rotation is really AB-AB-AB-AM-Scorch - repeat
22:31.23Diaook
22:31.25Xinhuanto conserve mana, you can cast 1 or 2 less ABs
22:31.30Xinhuanso it stacks less high
22:31.41Diaoah ok
22:31.46Xinhuanto conserve even more mana, you can do 4xScorch instead of AM-Scorch
22:31.57Xinhuanthis is the so called Arcane's ability to vary DPS vs DPM
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22:32.07fropok...it's bagnon that doesn't permit the links :P
22:32.08Xinhuanand the goal of every arcane mage is to reach 0 mana as the boss' health reaches 0
22:32.12Diaoah ok
22:32.17cchomeis pitbull aura broken??
22:32.27Xinhuanwith a spriest, this is usually very difficult for non-arcane mages
22:32.36Xinhuansince fire mages can only insert an AB or a fireblast so often
22:33.18Diaooh
22:34.10AntiarcIs there anyone here that is NOT using an enUS client?
22:34.13Xinhuanalso arcane missiles - people keep saying it has a very bad DPM ratio
22:34.23Xinhuanbut in fact it is quite the opposite
22:34.32Xinhuanit has far higher DPM than what everyone thinks it has
22:34.36Diaodidn't mages only use it when they procced clearclast previously?
22:34.41Diaoclearcast*
22:35.00Xinhuanfirst, it has a 5 sec cast time - this means that the 5 sec rule will always expire before you complete casting your next spell
22:35.16Xinhuanwhich means you will ALWAYS get back 1 full mana regen tick
22:35.38Xinhuanbecause 5SR rule starts at first channeling, but 5SR ends at completion of casting on non-channeled spells
22:35.52charonAntiarc: what do you need? i could look if the deDE part of my install is still working, i.e. patched up to date
22:36.01AntiarcdeDE would be awesome
22:36.08Xinhuanso AM may cost 784 mana to cast, but if you deduct one full mana tick of regen, its more like 720
22:36.23Xinhuansecond, every wave can proc JoW
22:36.24Antiarccharon: Have you ever used an MPQ extractor?
22:36.45Xinhuan3rd, if you cast AM on clearcast - that costs 0 mana - it doesn't trigger 5SR at all
22:36.45Diaoah
22:36.51Xinhuanso you get 3 ticks of full mana regen
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22:36.59charonAntiarc: no, but it doesn't sound like it needs magic incantations etc
22:37.08AntiarcNot particularly
22:37.10AntiarcHere's what I need -
22:37.23Xinhuanif you have a TLC trinket, you should always break AB-rotation to clearcast-AM
22:37.30Diaoso if you cast it on a clearcast with jow up you can actually regen a lot of mana?
22:37.34Xinhuaneven more so if you have 4 pc T5 bonus
22:37.39Xinhuanyes, heaps
22:37.43AntiarcGrab http://wow.tachyonsix.com/MPQEditor.exe
22:37.56Xinhuanif JoW is up, and you have a spriest, you basically gain mana just chain casting AM
22:38.00AntiarcUse that to open the Data/deDE/locale-enUS.MPQ file
22:38.00Diaowhat's the 4 piece bonus?
22:38.08AntiarcExtract the Spell.dbc file, compress it, and send it my way
22:38.16Diaonm i see it now
22:38.22Xinhuan(4) set: Your spell crits grant you up to 70 spell damage for 6 sec
22:38.29Xinhuan100% proc, no hidden cooldown
22:38.47Diaoso basically it's always up
22:38.54charonAntiarc: it's up to date, gimme a minute. are you serious about both deDE and enUS in the name?
22:39.04AntiarcErr, no
22:39.07Antiarclocale-deDE.mpq
22:39.08AntiarcSorry
22:39.13Xinhuannot exactly diao
22:39.18charonok :)
22:39.19Diaowell
22:39.22Xinhuanbut up often enough
22:39.22Diaodepending on crit rate i guess
22:39.52Diaoseems like if you had at least 20% crit it should theoretically (although not actually) be up almost all the time
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22:40.26AntiarcBasically I just need to see if the string offsets are the same in each Spell.dbc file
22:40.31AntiarcIf not I need to deduce where they are per locale
22:40.38AntiarcBut I may have an automated localization solution working
22:40.52ggilbertI'm going to stab any fire or arcane mage who has 4/5 t5 and doesn't have at least a 20% crit rate.
22:40.52AntiarcI can successfully extract an ID -> Name list from the enUS DBCs as of right now :)
22:40.58ckknight_sounds pimp, Antiarc
22:41.13ckknight_ID is a number?
22:41.20charonAntiarc: any obvious way to find that Spell.dbc inside the mpq? it has a ton of directories and 8k-ish files as far as i can tell
22:41.33AntiarcIt's under DBFilesClient
22:41.34AntiarcSorry
22:41.38Antiarcckknight: Yes
22:41.40charonah, got it, thanks
22:41.41Antiarchttp://thottbot.com/s58
22:41.49AntiarcSpell ID 58 is Magic Missile (TEST)
22:41.56Paradoxanyone know how to add new textures to eePanels?
22:42.13AntiarcSo I just match spell 58 in other locales and voila, localizations that we can do immediately every time a new patch is released.
22:42.25dreamss2http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya <-- are u serious ?
22:42.34Xinhuanggilbert: any decent fire or arcane mage will have at least 30% crit unbuffed
22:42.45Xinhuanggilbert: and about 40-45% raid buffed
22:42.55dreamss2lua wow guide lol
22:43.00ggilbertXinhuan: I was being very very generous :)
22:44.27Ackisso would anyone know why polymorphism would end up with something going into an infinitive loop?
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22:47.00Whinewhisperwoot
22:47.05Whinewhispersolarien down on first night of tries =)
22:47.16Whinewhisperthat was an intense fight
22:47.26charonAntiarc: sent
22:47.36AntiarcMany thanks!
22:47.51charonnp :)
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22:52.00Stan__Antiarc: got a Threat1.0 error on logout O.o
22:52.03Stan__line 870
22:52.07AntiarcWhat's the error?
22:52.09Stan__party2pet
22:52.14Stan__or something like that
22:52.22Stan__it was on logout...could not copy
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22:52.54XinhuanAntiarc, its just errors on UnitIDs that don't exist
22:53.03AntiarcOh, okay
22:53.06Xinhuanhappens sometimes when you leave the party, or BG, etc
22:53.11AntiarcNot a huge deal, but I'll see if I can eliminate them
22:53.20Stan__cool
22:53.21Xinhuanand threat tries to do an update on those units that no longer exist
23:00.33Paradoxany tools I can download that don't need to be installed which can convert * into TGa
23:00.36Paradoxfor eepanels?
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23:10.34Funkeh`nn all
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23:13.01Stan__is there an addon that helps me align my frames?
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23:13.41NavrasUSalign
23:13.50NavrasUSnifty little addon
23:14.00NavrasUSputs a grid on your screen when you type /align
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23:14.28wodennavrasUS
23:14.29wodenty
23:14.33NavrasUSyep
23:14.34cchomeis pitbull aura broken??
23:15.07NavrasUSno
23:15.34cchomegetting crap load of errors after latest update
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23:16.23NavrasUSfiltering seems to have been turned back on, i think
23:16.28cchome[2007/09/18 19:14:19-2078-x1]: LibBabble-Zone-3.0\LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:101: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: Translation "GetSpellIcon" not found.PitBull_AltAura\update.lua:258: in function `UpdateBuffs'PitBull_AltAura\update.lua:1038: in function `UpdateAuras'PitBull_AltAura\core.lua:251: in function
23:16.39cchomei changed to altaura..and same stuff
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23:16.43cchomesome errors too
23:16.52NavrasUSnope, not even filtering turned back on
23:17.05cchomehmm
23:17.13cchomelet me paste my pitbull aura errors
23:17.25NavrasUSckk just left
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23:17.59cchomedamn
23:18.39Stan__NavrasUS: hmm..not on curse :(
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23:19.11NavrasUSi dont remember where i got it, sec
23:19.54cchome[2007/09/18 19:18:54-2079-x1]: PitBull_Aura\Aura.lua:1197: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink")LibRockTimer-1.0--51719 (LibRockTimer-1.0):296: in function <...terface\AddOns\LibRockTimer-1.0\LibRockTimer-1.0.lua:227>
23:19.56Stan__http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7231-Align.html
23:20.18wodenthats awesome iw as looking for something like that a while back
23:20.36NavrasUS<PROTECTED>
23:20.40NavrasUSyeah, lol
23:22.11AntiarcDAHAHA.
23:22.12AntiarcIt works.
23:22.25AntiarcNow I just need DBC files from locale, patch, and patch2 from each locale.
23:23.29cchomegetting these pitbull errors:
23:23.29cchome[2007/09/18 19:19:35-2079-x2]: PitBull_Aura\Aura.lua:1197: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink")
23:23.29cchomePitBull-r49237\PitBull.lua:3163: in function <Interface\AddOns\PitBull\PitBull.lua:3161>
23:23.29cchome<in C code>: ?
23:23.29cchomeLibRockEvent-1.0--51035 (LibRockEvent-1.0):468: in function <...terface\AddOns\LibRockEvent-1.0\LibRockEvent-1.0.lua:414>
23:23.30cchome(tail call): ?:
23:23.37Stan__hm :/ Niagara is broken
23:23.42Shirik~lart cc-work
23:23.42purlshoots cc-work in the head
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23:23.49Shirikplease, save my ears and use a pastey
23:24.16cchomeoops
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23:25.28buuThere has to be some way to do that.
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23:27.13MechaHi there! Im having some trouble with Pitbull atm, I just updated it with WowAceUpdater(the latest version) and I updated the addon with externals, now I get this error when I log on -> http://ace.pastey.net/74049 <- Anyone able to help me out? :)
23:33.51charonAntiarc: gz :) let me know if you need more of that deDE stuff... though i'm beginning to wonder if i could just nuke it and only keep the english part
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23:34.06Antiarccharon: Yeah, I need the Spell.dbc from the patch-2 MPQ
23:34.14AntiarcIf you wouldn't mind
23:34.22Paradoxcan eePanels snap to eachother?
23:35.28alcoholonly when they're angr
23:35.28charonAntiarc: patch-deDE-2.MPQ ?
23:35.29alcoholangry
23:35.33Antiarccharon: Yes
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23:35.45Paradoxlol alcohol
23:35.48Paradoxso that's a no?
23:35.53alcoholdunno mate
23:35.57alcoholhaven't looked at that myself
23:36.00alcoholI'd guess not
23:36.06alcoholbut it's pretty easy to get them right
23:36.13alcoholseeing you can set size and everything down to the pixel
23:36.20alcoholjust make em match up with math skills ;-)
23:36.57alcoholso what's so different about cartogr_nnTrainers ?
23:37.02alcoholcompared to regular trainers
23:37.16Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/translations.out
23:37.21AntiarcThat's what this is generating, charon
23:37.43AntiarcI can add as many dbc files as necessary, so if I can get one from each locale, I can create a master tab delimited translation table.
23:38.20alcoholHeilende BerührungHealing Touch (TEST)
23:38.23alcoholno match there ?
23:38.24alcohol:o
23:38.40Antiarcalcohol: It's a test spell, so it's not necessarily going to have a correct translation
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23:38.46alcoholoh
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23:38.49Antiarcbut if you look at all the production spells the translations should be dead on.
23:38.58alcoholbut I mean all the other test ones have in the translation
23:39.05alcohollike left and right both test
23:39.08alcoholthis one doesn't
23:39.10Antiarc*shrug*
23:39.14AntiarcThat's just how it is in the DBCs
23:39.18alcoholSchrecker (TEST)Terror (TEST)
23:39.23alcoholif you get my idea
23:39.29Antiarcyeah
23:39.40AntiarcOoh, this would also allow me to do a web service
23:39.47AntiarcPunch in a name in the locale of your choice
23:39.50MechaHi there! Im having some trouble with Pitbull atm, I just updated it with WowAceUpdater(the latest version) and I updated the addon with externals, now I get this error when I log on -> http://ace.pastey.net/74049 <- Anyone able to help me out? :)
23:39.54AntiarcGet translations in other locales as WoW sees them
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23:40.14charonAntiarc: sent the patch2 thing too
23:40.16alcoholMecha: sorry, shit out of luch
23:40.22alcoholluck
23:40.23alcohol:x
23:40.26AntiarcAwesome, thank you
23:40.29wodeni approve of this simple but effective align mod
23:40.46charonoutput looks nice :) though some of the translations near the top seem wrong. perhaps blizzard put them there like that
23:40.51MechaNoo, I want luck ;(
23:41.24MechaI've tried to update that lib-rock thingy.. still same shit :S
23:41.29NavrasUSWoden: good to hear :)
23:41.31benSorry but what is Rock and why does it make Fubar spam me with errors
23:41.39ckknightdammit, Kaelten
23:41.56ckknightKaelten: why the fuck has nothing happened with LibStub yet?
23:42.08benand why has it taken over the fubar rightclick menu so I cannot even disable its minimap button
23:42.25ckknightben: ...
23:42.33ckknightyou realize you're wrong, right?
23:42.45JoshBorkeckknight: what do you mean nothing has happened with LibStub?
23:43.00Chompers~rock
23:43.01purlmethinks rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight.  More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon shout it out, or what we're going to do to blow your hair to the back of the auditorium.
23:43.29ckknightJoshBorke: well, I've been asking him repeatedly about an issue which I have patches for (to fix it) and everything, I even have unit tests. I've been ignored
23:43.40JoshBorkedid you post them to jira?
23:43.53ckknightand I can't commit the unit test even, cause it's forbidden
23:44.09JoshBorkeseems like you should be able to commit things to jira, then you have a trail of proof
23:44.12ckknightno, because I've shown them to Kaelten on this channel and he said he'd do it, but that hasn't happened
23:44.26JoshBorkewell, pretty sure kaelten is busy and other people work on LibStub too
23:44.43JoshBorkeit seems to me that bug fixes should go through jira, rather than through any 1 developer
23:44.52ckknightgeneral issue is that strmatch(minor, "%d+") needs to change to strmatch(minor, "%-?%d+")
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23:45.12JoshBorkeso that it doesn't match LibBob-2.0-r42?
23:45.13ckknightand it seems to me that Kaelten should fucking do what he said he was going to do
23:45.23ckknightJoshBorke: negative versions
23:45.46JoshBorkeah, i see
23:46.08JoshBorkeckknight: perhaps Kaelten will.  but maybe someone else would be able to do it before he has a chance if you posted to jira
23:46.51CIA-22ow
23:47.29Ackisis there a lua debugger out there? i still can't figure out this loop for the life of me, wouldn't mind stepping through the code
23:47.34Tulleroh right, rock does negative versions due to some crazy revision stuff somewhere or something
23:47.40ckknightAckis: pastey
23:48.18ckknightTuller: it's because Kaelten promised separate svn for different projects, by making them negative now, the revision numbers will work later when they start over at 1
23:48.28Tullerright
23:48.31Ackishttp://ace.pastey.net/74044 line 159 is what's giving me the overflow error, I don't know why however, it shouldn't be calling itself
23:48.51JoshBorkepoor kaelten
23:48.59JoshBorkeseems he's getting bitched at left and right
23:49.11ckknightbecause he keeps making promises he doesn't keep
23:49.12Shadowed|Kaelten you didn't get me my sandwich youu suck
23:49.22Antiarcckknight and other people interested in localization: AutomagicalTranslationizer-0.1.zip
23:49.24AntiarcErr
23:49.24ckknightum, Ackis, lua doesn't work that way
23:49.27Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/AutomagicalTranslationizer-0.1.zip
23:49.46ckknightAckis: you're overwriting addTradeSkill
23:49.52JoshBorkeAntiarc: gief code, not zip
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23:49.58Ackisso i'm not polymorphing it?
23:50.00ckknightAckis: it doesn't create multiple functions that are called differently per arguments
23:50.03AntiarcJoshBorke: That's code with 2 21MB data files in it
23:50.10JoshBorkeAntiarc: ... FAIL
23:50.24Tullercouldn't you just subtract a really big number? or is that too hacky?
23:50.28ckknightAckis: you just get one function per name, any arguments you don't pass become nil, any extra arguments are thrown away
23:50.38ckknightTuller: I do, I do 100000 - revision
23:50.45ckknighterr, revision - 100000
23:50.49ckknightwhich works
23:50.51Ackiswow i said polymorphing it lol... ok, so lua doesn't let me have polymorphism then I'm guessing?
23:50.55ckknightexcept that LibStub has a bug
23:51.02AntiarcJoshBorke: http://wow.tachyonsix.com/AutomagicalTranslationizer/dbcparser.py
23:51.04ckknightAckis: guess not
23:51.08JoshBorkeew, python
23:51.26ckknightwhat's wrong with python?
23:51.32Ackisckknight: ok I think I get it then... I can do a if argx == nil then x = false or something like that then
23:51.36JoshBorkeno one said anything was wrong with it
23:51.39ckknightAckis: yea
23:51.42JoshBorkei just said "ew, python /me barfs"
23:51.46ckknight...
23:52.03AntiarcI wrote a generic DBC parser  like 14 months ago and just adapted to do the translation stuff
23:52.04charoni'm beginning to hate it... i will never be able to learn and appreciate another language again :(
23:52.08benckknight: What am I wrong about?
23:52.08ckknightJoshBorke: are you just trolling for the sake of it?
23:52.12JoshBorkei have nothing against python other than i've never used it and have no interest
23:52.14ckknightben: you can disable the minimap button
23:52.15AntiarcIf I were rewriting it from scratch I'd do it in ruby, but python will do for now :P
23:52.20JoshBorkeckknight: no, i was making a joke with antiarc
23:52.23benckknight: Well, I bet I can, but not in the way I am used to :[
23:52.30ckknightben: there's an option.
23:52.33dreamss4ckknight got a sec (ironic i know)
23:52.41ckknightdreamss4: I suppose
23:52.45benckknight: What was wrong with the old option?
23:52.55JoshBorkei didn't realize joking with antiarc == trolling.  was i trolling antiarc?
23:52.58ckknightben: what old option?
23:53.04AntiarcEh. I don't care. :P
23:53.06JoshBorke~dict trolling
23:53.12ckknightJoshBorke: *sigh* just drop it
23:53.20Shadowed|josh you're an ugly troll
23:53.23Shadowed|as far as trolls go
23:53.27JoshBorkei'm a ugly sexy troll
23:53.37Shadowed|ugly and sexy is like saying that you're hot and cold
23:53.48AntiarcThe important thing here is that I need Spell.dbc files from esES, frFR, zhTW, zhCN, and koKR clients.
23:53.48JoshBorkeyou just gotta catch me at the right time of month
23:53.49AntiarcGo!
23:54.04JoshBorkeAntiarc: good luck
23:54.04AntiarcOnce I have those I can write a 100% accurate translation table
23:54.08benckknight: Like, getting a simple popup menu from Fubar when rightclicking it
23:54.15benwhere I can disable fubar plugins
23:54.25benor possibly a rightclick thing on the rock icon
23:55.01JoshBorkedon't we already have that with Babble Antiarc?
23:55.22AntiarcJoshBorke: Speaking as someone heavily reliant on Babble, Babble is full of holes. ;)
23:55.31JoshBorkeAntiarc: oh, ok :-D
23:55.44AntiarcJoshBorke: This solution would effectively allow us to generate a complete BabbleSpell translation set the day a patch is released.
23:55.50AntiarcRather than waiting for people to translate stuff.
23:55.56AntiarcAnd then verifying that the translation is right
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23:56.32JoshBorkeAntiarc: ah, i see.  i'm sure kaelten would be interested in that
23:56.36ckknightben: it's not using FuBarPlugin, though
23:56.37alcoholwhat's that addon again that opens a menu around your cursor when you press a key assigned to it ?
23:56.46alcoholyou guys mentioned it yesterday
23:57.07Shadowed|someone still needs to do norgs idea and just have a web browser for it
23:57.10Shadowed|wtb easy translations
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23:57.43Paradoxawesome :) managed to duplicate panels to the pixel based on this http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6556/wowscrnshot071707190948bn4.jpg
23:58.11ckknight*thumbs up*
23:58.11JoshBorkeShadowed: kaelten will be interested for the web idea
23:58.21benckknight: I am not sure I quite get this
23:58.48Shadowed|kael has a lot of stuff to do thouggh, so dunno how long it would take
23:58.48alcoholanyway, anyone able to answer my question ?
23:58.53ckknightben: it's not a FuBar plugin.
23:59.00Tullerwe need a kaelten clone :P
23:59.02ckknightalcohol: I dunno

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