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| 00:18.32 | CIA-22 | 03sinaloit * r48849 10NRT_EPGP/NRT_EPGP.lua: |
| 00:18.32 | CIA-22 | NRT_EPGP: |
| 00:18.32 | CIA-22 | - Not everyone has an existing log, lets not assume that. |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r48850 10Skinner/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-22 | Skinner: Updated Auctioneer, sienasGemViewer, Violation, IgorsMassAuction & Recount skins |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Auctioneer & EnhancedTooltip bug |
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| 00:28.12 | Bruners | do rogues get +hit from agi ? |
| 00:28.24 | Diao | nobody gets hit from any stats |
| 00:28.26 | Diao | except +hit |
| 00:28.28 | Diao | and weapon skill |
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| 00:34.19 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:34.24 | Bruners | ello ck |
| 00:35.46 | JoshBorke | hi |
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| 00:42.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48851 10/trunk/ (9 files in 9 dirs): .Cartographer_* - use Cartographer_Notes.L instead of AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new("Cartographer-Notes") |
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| 00:45.45 | Ackis | hmmm I'm working on my first add-on, and I recall back in my C/C++ days I could pass a variable into a function and allow that funtion to modify it (not locally). I've been trying to find documentation/examples but nothing yet... anyone have a pointer for me? :) |
| 00:48.41 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r522 10/trunk/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:48.41 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: Could it be? WidgetWarlock is a real lib? NEVAR! |
| 00:48.41 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: Totally untested, FYI, just getting it up in the SVN so I can start hacking at it. |
| 00:49.25 | ckknight | Ackis: you can't set by reference like you can in c/c++ |
| 00:51.13 | Ackis | well that would explain why I'm having problems with it... the quick and dirty is to set it as a global variable, however are there any better coding standards to deal with those types? |
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| 00:53.40 | ckknight | Ackis: use namespaces |
| 00:55.48 | sb | meh... phoenix drop |
| 00:56.14 | sb | tauren @ kael'thas phoenix :/ |
| 00:57.48 | Ackis | Thanks CK, you've pointed me down the right direction... been years since I've coded |
| 00:57.57 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.00 | ckknight | it's alright |
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| 00:58.29 | ckknight | Ackis: so you know, tables can act as namespaces. It's how most ace-style addons are made, with each addon being its own namespace |
| 00:58.37 | ckknight | it fits well into lua as well |
| 00:59.26 | Ackis | yah I did a search for namespaces, and it looks like exactly what I want... long story short I have a n x m array which I want to pass around |
| 00:59.36 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:59.43 | ckknight | defined n and m? |
| 00:59.51 | ckknight | i.e. not variable |
| 00:59.58 | Ackis | no, they'll be variable |
| 01:00.00 | ckknight | ick |
| 01:00.02 | ckknight | okay then |
| 01:00.10 | ckknight | you'll use a table-of-tables approach |
| 01:00.15 | Ackis | wtb alloc/etc? lol |
| 01:00.23 | ckknight | not in lua |
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| 01:07.33 | CIA-22 | 03mightydre 07mightydre * r48852 10FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/Core.lua: FuBar_PaladinTimerFu: ported r36436 from trunk |
| 01:07.44 | kadrahil | so um |
| 01:07.53 | kadrahil | can recount combine pet data in dps output? |
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| 01:08.44 | kenlyric | yes. |
| 01:08.48 | kadrahil | oh, the option that says "merge pets with owners" |
| 01:08.56 | kenlyric | it's rocket surgery, yes. |
| 01:09.13 | kenlyric | I thought it was on by default. |
| 01:09.20 | kenlyric | if not, it should be. |
| 01:09.52 | kadrahil | yeah, it is, but i saw it separated in the list of combatants |
| 01:10.11 | kadrahil | as in my pet was still being shown separately |
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| 01:20.22 | CIA-22 | 03mightydre 07mightydre * r48853 10FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/FuBar_PaladinTimerFu/: ADDON: obsolete |
| 01:24.29 | WobWork | ... |
| 01:24.32 | WobWork | MIGHTYDRE? |
| 01:25.54 | NeoTron | kadrahil: it still is |
| 01:26.03 | NeoTron | best of both worlds. :P |
| 01:26.06 | Industrial | rofl wob |
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| 01:26.41 | Industrial | Warriordude <The Dark Alliance> |
| 01:26.47 | Industrial | *strangle* |
| 01:26.55 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=vhk4fsd2vrfes&s=7274-7795 <3 felguard |
| 01:26.59 | WobWork | wtf is Mightydre doing writing addons? =P |
| 01:27.08 | WobWork | He's a mage on my server =P |
| 01:27.22 | ulic | he's not, he's just making them obsolete |
| 01:27.37 | Industrial | ~rimshot |
| 01:27.38 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 01:27.46 | WobWork | oh a different mightydre |
| 01:28.00 | WobWork | there's a 37 pally on Anub'arak |
| 01:33.41 | FrostByghte | got a guy talking to me in wow right now that uses no mods, and likes a 'pure wow experience' |
| 01:33.56 | FrostByghte | isn't a pure experience using mods/addons since the game is basically designed around it? :) |
| 01:35.06 | hyperChipmunk | tell him to alt-Z |
| 01:35.12 | FrostByghte | lol |
| 01:35.18 | FrostByghte | might be too pure |
| 01:35.30 | ulic | FrostByghte: did you remind him that blizzard converted a bunch of their code into 'addons', tell him to look in his addons folder :P |
| 01:36.25 | WobWork | he'd better delete them =P |
| 01:36.45 | FrostByghte | his dime I guess....but I can't even imagine using the shit interface the game ships with |
| 01:37.01 | FrostByghte | first time I played, I was thinking WTF is this |
| 01:37.16 | FrostByghte | couldn't move any windows, couldn't adjust anything, blah |
| 01:37.28 | FrostByghte | now I run so many addons..... |
| 01:37.50 | FrostByghte | I'm curious is warhammer going to take the addon approach? anyone know? |
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| 01:42.11 | rubik | hmm.. so i opted to hide the EBB anchor handle thing a bit too early and i can't find a way to get it back to move the bars? |
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| 01:42.30 | eibit | trying to create a new branch with svn copy, getting: |
| 01:42.35 | eibit | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bc/48853/branch' |
| 01:42.36 | eibit | svn: '/wowace/!svn/bc/48853/branch' path not found |
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| 01:45.31 | eibit | any ideas ? |
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| 01:47.12 | eibit | nm, i see the problem.. |
| 01:50.14 | ulic | rubik: just click on "Buffs" "Debuffs" or "Weapon Buffs" in the dropdown |
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| 01:51.13 | CIA-22 | 03mightydre 07mightydre * r48854 10ClosetGnome/: ClosetGnome: mightydre's branch |
| 01:51.18 | CIA-22 | 03mightydre 07mightydre * r48855 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome/: ClosetGnome: mightydre's branch |
| 01:52.31 | Bruners | patch next week ? |
| 01:52.41 | ulic | could be |
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| 01:54.13 | JoshBorke | doubtful |
| 01:54.30 | Bruners | just saw the blizzard downloader started here |
| 01:54.44 | sb | started 4 weeks ago ;p |
| 01:54.51 | Bruners | not here |
| 01:54.53 | ulic | yea, they pushed out a new piece in the US this week. |
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| 02:03.13 | weab | anyone know if there's some kind of complete community savedvariables for cartography_mining and herbs or something |
| 02:03.17 | weab | i'd imagine there must be somewhere |
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| 02:04.27 | ckknight | weab: Cartographer_Data |
| 02:04.42 | weab | well that's quite convenient now isn't it. |
| 02:05.29 | weab | now i can stop caring that cartography_mining is broken |
| 02:05.50 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r523 10/trunk/WidgetWarlock/ (7 files): |
| 02:05.52 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: WidgetWarlock |
| 02:05.54 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Fixed XML file so it actually works |
| 02:05.56 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Changed fader to not take self, allows for the function to be directly set as a frame's OnShow handler |
| 02:05.59 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Changed how library upgrades are handled across many files, the old method was going to be too hard to manage, especially if the user had a fairly old version of the lib before the upgrade started. |
| 02:08.12 | JoshBorke | apparently the current version of bigwigs is fubar |
| 02:08.26 | Funkeh` | ? |
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| 02:08.39 | JoshBorke | i guess i can't leave it as a monolithic folder? |
| 02:08.51 | Funkeh` | Sure you can |
| 02:09.05 | JoshBorke | i got errors :-/ |
| 02:09.19 | Funkeh` | strange |
| 02:09.20 | Funkeh` | what like? |
| 02:09.34 | JoshBorke | cannot find instance of babble zone 2.2 |
| 02:10.01 | JoshBorke | gd pos |
| 02:10.11 | Funkeh` | It might be missing from the latest zip? |
| 02:10.27 | JoshBorke | it's probably there |
| 02:10.30 | JoshBorke | just not there when i restarted wow |
| 02:10.45 | JoshBorke | s/rest/st/ |
| 02:12.43 | Swade35B | anyone know a mod that automatically collects your money from inbox besides ah_mailcollect? |
| 02:15.04 | CIA-22 | 03mightydre * r48856 10/branches/ClosetGnome_Switcher/: ClosetGnome_Switcher: for branches |
| 02:15.07 | CIA-22 | 03mightydre 07mightydre * r48857 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/: ClosetGnome_Switcher: mightydre's branch |
| 02:15.12 | CIA-22 | 03mightydre 07mightydre * r48858 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher/: ClosetGnome_Switcher: mightydre's branch |
| 02:20.08 | CIA-22 | 03mightydre 07mightydre * r48859 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: add ClosetGnome:CurrentSet() |
| 02:21.52 | CIA-22 | 03mightydre 07mightydre * r48860 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: switch back to the previous set if no default was defined |
| 02:22.18 | aestil | There seem to be options to see changelogs using WAU, but I can't figure it out. Please explain to me why I'm so stupid. |
| 02:23.06 | Funkeh` | The answer you are looking fro is over the green mountain. |
| 02:24.08 | Bruners | what is the difference between clearfont and clearfont2 ? |
| 02:24.22 | Diao | clearfont is deprecated? |
| 02:24.58 | Bruners | if it is, why is it still listed ? |
| 02:25.26 | ckknight | because you touch yourself at night |
| 02:25.38 | Bruners | i just did |
| 02:25.46 | Kirkburn | Nice |
| 02:25.55 | Kirkburn | It's there because there's no need to remove stuff that works :) |
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| 02:30.44 | aestil | I'm looking for a fro past a green mountain? |
| 02:33.24 | ckknight | Cartographer needs an icon |
| 02:35.55 | aestil | I vote for a boob. |
| 02:40.16 | Funkeh` | Why does it need an icon |
| 02:40.34 | aestil | for a fubar plugin maybe? |
| 02:40.38 | Bruners | icon's are cool ? |
| 02:40.39 | aestil | or minimap icon? |
| 02:40.52 | aestil | actually, what about a pirateship flag. |
| 02:40.55 | aestil | like a skull! |
| 02:41.05 | aestil | everyone likes pirates. |
| 02:41.06 | Funkeh` | It already uses the world map icon |
| 02:41.13 | Funkeh` | and why would you want a fubar icon? |
| 02:41.17 | Funkeh` | press m and click the menu |
| 02:41.22 | Funkeh` | not exactly hard |
| 02:41.22 | RogueShadow | I was thinking a map?... specifically and old looking scroll style map |
| 02:41.24 | Bruners | ooh, when did eepanels2 come out? |
| 02:41.33 | Funkeh` | about a month ago |
| 02:42.04 | ckknight | Funkeh`: Rock Config |
| 02:42.05 | aestil | eepanels2 took up basically an entire sunday for me, messing with it. |
| 02:42.07 | Bruners | seems fair, ive been away for a while |
| 02:42.08 | ckknight | not FuBar |
| 02:42.17 | Funkeh` | ckknight: World Map Icon? |
| 02:42.24 | ckknight | probably. |
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| 02:42.37 | aestil | and I still haven't got the resize script to work for Grid. |
| 02:42.43 | Bruners | how much better is it than the first version ? |
| 02:42.47 | aestil | errors and failures when raid changes side. |
| 02:42.52 | Funkeh` | Bruners: A lot |
| 02:43.02 | aestil | size even. |
| 02:43.03 | Funkeh` | Bruners: A lot cleaner codee wiser, and easier to configure |
| 02:43.17 | Funkeh` | code wise* |
| 02:43.18 | Bruners | have to give it a try then, if i get to log back in |
| 02:43.26 | aestil | Funkeh: easier is a relative term though, it still is difficult/time consuming to configure. |
| 02:43.32 | Funkeh` | You need to built from scratch, though |
| 02:43.35 | Bruners | possible to import old layout? |
| 02:43.39 | aestil | no, not possible. |
| 02:43.40 | Funkeh` | no |
| 02:43.43 | Bruners | bleh |
| 02:43.46 | aestil | and its main benifit to me, is scripts. |
| 02:43.58 | aestil | which require alot of knowledge I do not have. |
| 02:44.08 | aestil | still. I love it. |
| 02:44.09 | Funkeh` | aestil: Its easier to configure than the old version, thats a fact. |
| 02:44.25 | aestil | *nods* no argument there. |
| 02:44.27 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r48861 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs & LittleWigs: Update zhCN localization |
| 02:44.40 | Bruners | one click on the global thingie on the old version and you had a complete fuckup |
| 02:45.00 | Funkeh` | You can drag the corners in this version to resize the frames |
| 02:45.19 | Funkeh` | a la Violation and such |
| 02:47.53 | aestil | Funkeh: i found that horribly inaccurate though. I pretty much used the niagra setup for all my panels. |
| 02:48.16 | Funkeh` | aestil: i agree, I used to to get the rough layout, then typed the numbers afterwards |
| 02:48.31 | aestil | I have to go back and make all my chat panes an exact uniform size. I just 'drag' resized them, the slight pixel variations for those are frustrating. |
| 02:48.51 | aestil | I can use prat for that right? set a min/max chat pane size thats the same? |
| 02:49.08 | aestil | force all chat panes to the exact same dimensions. |
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| 02:50.27 | aestil | I wonder if the patch will push this tuesday. |
| 02:50.55 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r48862 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Netherspite.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Netherspite: Don't use :format in descriptions |
| 02:51.08 | Funkeh` | Not sure |
| 02:51.13 | Funkeh` | Not a prat fan myself |
| 02:51.24 | aestil | I can't figure out mumble. |
| 02:52.18 | aestil | its bigger than I'd like for something as unimportant as chat. but i pretty much can't get rid of it, since i'm partial to how my chat output looks. |
| 02:53.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48863 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - raise the URL copy frame to FULLSCREEN_DIALOG |
| 02:53.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48864 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - raise the config frame to FULLSCREEN_DIALOG instead of DIALOG |
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| 02:53.52 | Funkeh` | I'm really liking assessment |
| 02:54.01 | aestil | Have never tried it. |
| 02:54.14 | aestil | Have to run SWS for guild, don't want 2 dmg meters. |
| 02:54.17 | Funkeh` | Recommending all ym recount addicts to switch to it so I can cut down on the addon sync crap it sends |
| 02:54.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48865 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: |
| 02:54.26 | CIA-22 | Cartographer - make the "Cartographer" button on the map open RockConfig instead of a dewdrop frame. |
| 02:54.26 | CIA-22 | - also, haphazardly convert AceOptions data tables into RockConfig tables. |
| 02:54.35 | Funkeh` | You are forced to run a meter? |
| 02:54.43 | aestil | as a guild no. |
| 02:54.51 | aestil | but as an officer, i reset and maintain the timeline. |
| 02:55.03 | aestil | so yes, *I* am required to run it. |
| 02:55.04 | ckknight | okay, Cartographer is thus ported to Rock. |
| 02:55.11 | aestil | push it all to trunk then. |
| 02:55.16 | ckknight | no |
| 02:55.19 | aestil | bah. |
| 02:55.20 | ckknight | I'm not done FuBar |
| 02:55.37 | Funkeh` | Push it? I hope not, I hope its a cartographer 2? |
| 02:55.50 | ckknight | version numbers don't matter |
| 02:55.55 | Funkeh` | Yes they do |
| 02:56.00 | ckknight | no, no they don't |
| 02:56.09 | aestil | oh noes! |
| 02:56.10 | Funkeh` | So why did you upgrade all the libs? |
| 02:56.12 | ckknight | btw, any third-party Ace2 modules still work with Cartographer |
| 02:56.29 | ckknight | because Rock is more efficient and overall better for my purposes than Ace2 |
| 02:56.39 | Funkeh` | and because it uses a different framework |
| 02:57.00 | ckknight | the API has stayed the same, version numbers thusly don't need to change |
| 02:57.01 | Funkeh` | You + version numbers seriously need to get more familiar with each other |
| 02:57.09 | Funkeh` | They are there for a reason |
| 02:57.24 | ckknight | also, it's an addon, not a library |
| 02:57.35 | Funkeh` | Its a different framework |
| 02:57.39 | ckknight | and since the API didn't change for Cartographer itself, there's no big reason to bump the number |
| 02:57.50 | aestil | lets all it "rocktagrapher" now then? |
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| 02:57.56 | Funkeh` | Its using a completely different library system, a different core, wtf does the API matter |
| 02:58.08 | Funkeh` | Big changes = version change |
| 02:58.09 | ckknight | why should the version number bump? |
| 02:58.19 | ckknight | Cartographer never had a version number anyway |
| 02:58.21 | aestil | ckk, make a module for showing what T3/4/5/6 loot tokens can be turned in for? |
| 02:58.23 | ckknight | it just went by revision number |
| 02:58.31 | ckknight | aestil: dude, I'm lvl 52 |
| 02:58.32 | Funkeh` | jeez |
| 02:58.42 | Funkeh` | whatever do what you want |
| 02:59.05 | ckknight | I just don't see a reason to bump the number, except for marketing purposes |
| 02:59.15 | ckknight | which I might do, but solely for marketing purposes |
| 02:59.20 | aestil | lol. |
| 02:59.39 | aestil | I have a question. Will Ace2 cart be completely replace on WAU by Rock? |
| 02:59.48 | ckknight | yep |
| 02:59.49 | aestil | or will there be 2 seperate entries? |
| 02:59.58 | Funkeh` | Thats what we are arguing |
| 03:00.06 | ckknight | oh, that's what we're arguing? |
| 03:00.06 | aestil | <- sees now. |
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| 03:00.16 | ckknight | oh, no. That's not happening. |
| 03:00.17 | aestil | I don't see that at first either funky. |
| 03:00.30 | ckknight | who'd maintain the first one? |
| 03:00.35 | ckknight | also, the database didn't change |
| 03:00.39 | Funkeh` | Why does it need maintained? |
| 03:00.42 | Funkeh` | Look at eepanels |
| 03:00.46 | ckknight | bumping the version would wipe everyone's DBs |
| 03:00.47 | Funkeh` | Leave cartographer 1 to die |
| 03:00.50 | Funkeh` | maintain 2 |
| 03:01.03 | ckknight | but I don't have to |
| 03:01.05 | yssaril | ckknight: in rock the prefix for a message has to be 3 letters right? |
| 03:01.08 | aestil | I can see that. eePanels2 pushed 1 out, and he reverted that change. |
| 03:01.12 | ckknight | yssaril: true. |
| 03:01.23 | Funkeh` | aestil: yes it was sensible |
| 03:01.28 | ckknight | yssaril: unless you have a legitimate reason for it not to be, then I'll consider changing it |
| 03:01.52 | yssaril | ckknight: cause i wanna use 4 :P |
| 03:01.59 | ckknight | you can't condense it? |
| 03:02.00 | Funkeh` | Why 4? |
| 03:02.24 | aestil | That would create alot of 'double' mods on the WAU. though. you'd end up with 2.0 veresions of Alot of mods. |
| 03:02.27 | yssaril | why not? seams as random as 3 |
| 03:02.27 | ckknight | part of the reason for it to be 3 is so that it can break up the messages without a lot of thinking |
| 03:02.36 | ckknight | but 3's smaller |
| 03:02.38 | Funkeh` | aestil: Thats good |
| 03:02.45 | aestil | in this case, its probably transparent to most end users which framework is being used. |
| 03:02.50 | ckknight | yea, it should be |
| 03:02.52 | Funkeh` | aestil: Shows the old ace2 version clearly |
| 03:02.54 | aestil | if nothing breaks on the upgrade, if the configs and options don't break. |
| 03:02.54 | ckknight | the only difference for users will be config |
| 03:03.00 | Funkeh` | No |
| 03:03.03 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I'll be tagging the Ace2 version, if you still want to use that |
| 03:03.04 | aestil | is pitbull going to break? |
| 03:03.10 | ckknight | aestil: no |
| 03:03.12 | Funkeh` | ckknight: yes |
| 03:03.15 | ckknight | aestil: didn't break for me, at least |
| 03:03.17 | aestil | I don't care then. |
| 03:03.28 | ckknight | most people shouldn't have issues |
| 03:03.30 | Funkeh` | ckknight: But I think it should be tagged as 1.0 Imo and the new one should be 2.0 |
| 03:03.40 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I have no issue with that |
| 03:03.45 | ckknight | but the folder name's not changing |
| 03:03.58 | Funkeh` | But its still clear that its a major change |
| 03:04.05 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:04.07 | ckknight | it's all good |
| 03:04.20 | ckknight | I get what you say |
| 03:04.23 | ckknight | I'll bump the numbers up |
| 03:04.29 | ckknight | but I'm not gonna change the folder names |
| 03:04.35 | aestil | If Pitbull/Cartographer on Rock realizes performance gains, why woudln't you prefer using the newer version funky? |
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| 03:05.19 | Funkeh` | I don't use PitBull, but I will probably upgrade to the rock version of carto and run ace3/rock together, but its good coding practise to document big changes with version numbers |
| 03:05.37 | yssaril | ckknight: had an interesting idea instead of using a prefix set by the designer could not rock have some sort of global channel where everyone registers to and rock will assign each addon its own prefix ? |
| 03:05.39 | aestil | Ah. |
| 03:05.58 | ckknight | yssaril: ugh, no thank you. Too much work for too little gain. |
| 03:06.08 | ckknight | I don't want to deal with global channels at all |
| 03:06.15 | aestil | I have WAU set to 'automatic depenency downloads' but i downloaded sanity2, and I'm missing something. |
| 03:06.21 | yssaril | ckknight hehe |
| 03:06.43 | Funkeh` | aestil: WAU reads from the X-embeds line of the addon |
| 03:06.51 | Funkeh` | aestil: so its most likely he addons fault |
| 03:06.58 | Funkeh` | the* |
| 03:07.00 | aestil | *nods* antiarc is AFK. |
| 03:07.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48866 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer.toc: Cartographer - add X-IssueTracker |
| 03:07.40 | ckknight | Antiarc is in Zul'Gurub |
| 03:08.01 | Funkeh` | Tell him to GTFO and fix hes armory script |
| 03:08.17 | ckknight | ...no |
| 03:08.17 | aestil | ask him why sanity2 didn't do the x-embeds thing right, and ask him what I'm missing to make it work? |
| 03:08.18 | Bibi | yes Antiarc, fix your armory script |
| 03:08.23 | ckknight | you can tell him through IRC |
| 03:08.29 | ckknight | I'm not gonna disturb him in game |
| 03:08.48 | Antiarc | I fixed the heroic key generators |
| 03:08.53 | Antiarc | Which one is broken? |
| 03:09.02 | Funkeh` | Professions dude |
| 03:09.18 | Antiarc | Oh right, on sigs |
| 03:09.21 | Bibi | oh actually Antiarc |
| 03:09.23 | Funkeh` | Yeah |
| 03:09.23 | Bibi | don't fix it. |
| 03:09.36 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 03:09.48 | Bibi | (I couldn't access the FTP for unknown reasons tonight, so I guess it's the same for him. ^^) |
| 03:09.59 | aestil | Antiarc: what is needed to make Sanity2 work? |
| 03:10.06 | Bibi | blame Bibi ! |
| 03:12.00 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r524 10/trunk/ (13 files in 3 dirs): Importing AddOnAddOff, a simple addon to manage enabale/disable profiles. Useful for disabling all but the addon you're working on, then restoring your normal UI when you're done. |
| 03:12.39 | Funkeh` | Tekkub: sex in a bottle |
| 03:12.51 | Tekkub | Wet Platinum? |
| 03:13.08 | Antiarc | SanityItemCache |
| 03:13.16 | Antiarc | But it's not an embed, it's a dependency |
| 03:13.17 | aestil | i just figured it out. |
| 03:13.33 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:13.49 | Funkeh` | Dude when they miss a dependancy they go red in the addons menu and bitch you need xx addon |
| 03:13.57 | Funkeh` | Now exactly hard to notice ;) |
| 03:14.01 | Funkeh` | not* |
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| 03:15.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48867 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/WayPoint.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints - remove Crayon-2.0 dependency |
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| 03:17.01 | aestil | indeed. i did, and i'm fine. i have a head/chest cold. |
| 03:17.07 | aestil | and i worked 9 hours today. |
| 03:17.13 | Funkeh` | Excuses |
| 03:17.20 | aestil | i started up and was just basically 'angry' and didn't think it through. |
| 03:17.26 | aestil | my failure. |
| 03:17.35 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 03:18.04 | aestil | so, sanity 2 is basically like, a big database, but it doesn't really leech much in the way of cpu unless you are searching, but it does create a huge db which takes alot of addon memory. |
| 03:18.30 | Funkeh` | nowai |
| 03:18.49 | Antiarc | It's really heavily optimized, actually |
| 03:19.12 | Antiarc | I mean, you have to store a lot of data, but it's cut down very heavily |
| 03:22.04 | Funkeh` | time for sleep |
| 03:22.06 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 03:26.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48868 10Cartographer/Cartographer/ (Libs/ tmp/): Cartographer - fake commit |
| 03:26.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48869 10Cartographer/Cartographer/ (libs/ tmp/): Cartographer - complete Libs -> libs rename |
| 03:29.01 | aestil | Antiarc: if i log to all my alts ans open bank/mail for all of them. i'll be able to search through any of my stuff on any character? |
| 03:29.05 | Antiarc | yes |
| 03:35.17 | JoshBorke | SANITY SUCKS! |
| 03:35.28 | JoshBorke | ;-P |
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| 03:36.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48870 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer_Notes - use a simple utf8 truncation function. |
| 03:36.19 | aestil | i would probably just use sanity bags if i could figure it out. i used it once. and i failed. |
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| 03:37.04 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r525 10/trunk/AddOnAddOff/AddOnAddOff.lua: AddOnAddOff - Tooltip goodness |
| 03:43.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48871 10Cartographer/Cartographer/ (Cartographer.toc embeds.xml libs/ libs/UTF8/): Cartographer - fix externals and embeds.xml |
| 03:44.06 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:44.07 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r526 10/trunk/WidgetWarlock/ (Tooltips.lua Summons.lua): WidgetWarlock - Tooltips now use wrapping. Some tooltip code reworked so it'll get along with an embed library more betterly. |
| 03:44.19 | ckknight | Cartographer should essentially be updated to Rock now. |
| 03:44.24 | RogueShadow | So, I get the impression once your changover for all your addons works, your releasing them all as rock at the same time? |
| 03:44.46 | ckknight | by release you mean push to trunk |
| 03:44.49 | ckknight | yes. |
| 03:45.07 | RogueShadow | Yeah, I figure that's the easiest way to let the general user population have them |
| 03:45.08 | ckknight | basically, the reason I haven't released em one at a time is that Rock isn't officially out of beta |
| 03:45.24 | ckknight | and by me updating my addons, I'm able to tell if there are things missing in Rock |
| 03:45.31 | ckknight | or things that shouldn't be there |
| 03:45.31 | ckknight | etc. |
| 03:45.52 | ckknight | which currently _is_ the case |
| 03:47.43 | RogueShadow | I understand completely. :) |
| 03:47.59 | RogueShadow | Change it all, if you can't change something, it means you forgot to include it. Fix it, move on. |
| 03:48.21 | ckknight | well, mostly I've been catching bugs |
| 03:48.28 | ckknight | there's only one thing I plan to remove |
| 03:48.40 | aestil | too much penis in rock currently ckk? |
| 03:48.42 | ckknight | everything else is either additions or general bugs |
| 03:48.49 | ckknight | penis? |
| 03:48.51 | RogueShadow | ? |
| 03:48.56 | aestil | sorry, stupid joke. |
| 03:49.06 | JoshBorke | aestil: that was just bad =P |
| 03:49.08 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r527 10/trunk/WidgetWarlock/ (5 files): I'll figure this multi-file lib shit out soon, I swear! |
| 03:49.36 | aestil | mostly, when something is going wrong in my guild, we decide that too much penis and not enough boobs were invovled. |
| 03:49.56 | aestil | so, basically you guys have no context for that. or the buttery nipples battle cry we have on vashj attempts right now. |
| 03:50.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48872 10/branches/FuBar/: FuBar - prepare for Rock branch |
| 03:50.13 | ckknight | Buttery nipple is a drink :-P |
| 03:50.17 | ckknight | I know that much |
| 03:50.27 | JoshBorke | ~fail tekkub |
| 03:50.28 | purl | tekkub: Fail. |
| 03:50.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48873 10FuBar/: FuBar - prepare for Rock branch |
| 03:51.04 | Tekkub | :P I'm trying to make the lib not completely rewrite itsself on an upgrade Josh |
| 03:51.13 | Tekkub | just the methods that change |
| 03:51.22 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 03:51.25 | JoshBorke | interesting idea |
| 03:51.38 | Tekkub | lots of micro-management of the revision on it |
| 03:51.49 | Tekkub | s/revision/minor version |
| 03:51.59 | JoshBorke | yea, LOTS |
| 03:52.05 | Tekkub | s/s/revision/minor version/s/revision/minor version// |
| 03:52.09 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 03:52.12 | ckknight | ... |
| 03:52.19 | Tekkub | yea but I don't expect this lib to change much |
| 03:52.19 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 03:52.35 | JoshBorke | what's the big deal with redefining the methods? |
| 03:52.44 | Tekkub | garbage |
| 03:52.55 | ckknight | redefining methods makes baby Jesus cry |
| 03:53.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48874 10FuBar/FuBar/: FuBar - copy to Rock branch |
| 03:53.15 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r528 10/trunk/AddOnAddOff/WidgetWarlock/ (5 files): AddOnAddOff - embed update |
| 03:53.34 | Tekkub | Ace libs completely rewrite themselfs on a minor upgrade, makes the whole old lib trash unless something holds a ref |
| 03:53.35 | JoshBorke | seems like it would be an upgrading nightmare |
| 03:54.00 | Tekkub | we'll see, it's a test lib for the multi-file bit too |
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| 03:55.04 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:55.13 | ckknight | I forgot how freakishly simple FuBar turned out to be in the end |
| 03:56.22 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: i still think it'll be an upgrading nightmare, but i see how that could work |
| 03:56.35 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: i don't think it would work for more than things that almost never change |
| 03:57.34 | Tekkub | well, even dropping the upgrades down to per-file instead of the whole lib should help |
| 03:57.38 | JoshBorke | because of the comparison nightmare of what to upgrade between what revisions |
| 03:57.41 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 03:57.55 | JoshBorke | you could even wrap individual function definitions in if statements |
| 03:58.28 | Tekkub | or return out when the oldminor is met... |
| 03:58.46 | Tekkub | do v6 stuf, test minor, do v4 stuff, test minor, return out |
| 03:58.52 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 03:59.15 | Tekkub | like I said, it's a test lib |
| 03:59.20 | RogueShadow | I wonder if the odd feeling will ever go away. When I ask myself "Why does just about every ace addon there is attach itself to a rock addon by default" I might as that question if I wasn't aware of what's going on here. |
| 03:59.26 | Tekkub | per-file upgrades is probably sufficient |
| 03:59.47 | ckknight | RogueShadow: how do you mean? |
| 04:00.10 | RogueShadow | Once you convert Fubar to rock. All the ace addon's will still attach themselves to it by default. |
| 04:00.13 | RogueShadow | Most of them anyway. |
| 04:00.20 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 04:00.29 | RogueShadow | I think It's ironic. |
| 04:00.30 | ckknight | it'll support both Ace2 and Rock plugins, though |
| 04:00.42 | ckknight | yea, you could say that |
| 04:01.00 | RogueShadow | Also a testament to how well you coded your own addon's to begin with. |
| 04:01.09 | ckknight | FuBar was my first addon :-P |
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| 04:01.26 | ckknight | well, actually, I think FuBar_ClockFu was first, but it didn't use FuBar originally |
| 04:01.31 | JoshBorke | yea, i recommenda rewrite ckknight ;-) |
| 04:01.37 | ckknight | for FuBar? |
| 04:01.41 | ckknight | FuBar itself is pretty good |
| 04:01.47 | ckknight | FuBarPlugin-2.0 probably needs a rewrite |
| 04:01.51 | JoshBorke | FuBarPlugin mostly |
| 04:02.22 | ckknight | LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 will be a lot lighter, more slimmed down |
| 04:02.33 | ckknight | ideally |
| 04:02.54 | JoshBorke | Tekkub: i think the approach you're taking would work really well for something like Threat. i would extrapolate it such that each module in threat was some sort of object within the threat library and managed its own updates |
| 04:03.14 | JoshBorke | but bed time for me |
| 04:03.15 | JoshBorke | night all |
| 04:03.22 | Tekkub | yea, threat would be a good canidate, it's prolly fairly large |
| 04:03.33 | Tekkub | and seperationg upgrades out by class would be good |
| 04:03.39 | JoshBorke | yep |
| 04:03.52 | ckknight | class? |
| 04:03.54 | ckknight | you mean file |
| 04:04.06 | ckknight | Threat-1.0 doesn't use classes |
| 04:04.08 | Tekkub | I'm assuming one class per file dingus |
| 04:04.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I think you |
| 04:04.22 | Tekkub | are there not class-specific threat values? |
| 04:04.30 | ckknight | oh, that kind of class |
| 04:04.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 04:04.35 | NightHawkTheSane | I think you're misunderstanding the usageof class :P |
| 04:04.41 | JoshBorke | ~fail ckknight |
| 04:04.42 | purl | ckknight: Fail. |
| 04:04.45 | ckknight | ~fail JoshBorke |
| 04:04.46 | purl | JoshBorke: Fail. |
| 04:04.52 | JoshBorke | i'm not the one who read class wrong! |
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| 04:05.02 | ckknight | either way, there's more to Threat than just class stuff |
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| 04:05.05 | ckknight | a lot more |
| 04:05.08 | Tekkub | BAKA! |
| 04:05.21 | JoshBorke | yes, there are also NPCModules that could follow the same paradigm |
| 04:05.53 | JoshBorke | but class is an easy example that jumps to the forefront when talking about threat |
| 04:06.17 | ckknight | one issue I see with a per-file situation is what do you do if you add or remove a file? |
| 04:07.45 | JoshBorke | dunno, that's why i think it should be done more on subtables of the library rather than on a file level, but then again i haven't devoted more than 30-45 seconds to think about it |
| 04:07.56 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 04:08.02 | Silowyi | DoTimer vs necb, discuss |
| 04:08.09 | Silowyi | obviously NECB does more |
| 04:08.11 | JoshBorke | dotimer |
| 04:08.17 | JoshBorke | for dot tracking |
| 04:08.19 | Silowyi | right |
| 04:08.25 | Silowyi | I'm talking the areas they overlap |
| 04:08.35 | JoshBorke | i dunno, i don't use either :-D |
| 04:08.37 | JoshBorke | night :-D |
| 04:08.38 | Silowyi | rofl |
| 04:08.44 | Silowyi | opinions? |
| 04:09.00 | Silowyi | I'm thinking of using DoTimer for my crap, and NECB for my target's crap |
| 04:09.37 | Gngsk | too much crap imo |
| 04:10.12 | Silowyi | necb is useful I've found in pvp for knowing when my target's cooldowns are up, hehe |
| 04:10.32 | Silowyi | I don't really use it much in PvE |
| 04:11.34 | Shirik | Silowyi: DoTimer is... bad |
| 04:11.37 | Shirik | very bad |
| 04:11.42 | buu | Why? |
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| 04:11.54 | Shirik | If you use any other addon that needs the addon channel, one of two things will happen |
| 04:12.01 | Shirik | Either it won't work correctly, or you'll disconnect |
| 04:12.05 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 04:12.15 | Silowyi | DoTimer has some comm flooding issues then? |
| 04:12.15 | Shirik | DoTimer manages to send approximately 20 times the amount of data Omen sends |
| 04:12.22 | Shirik | occasionally more |
| 04:12.23 | Antiarc | You can turn off DoTimer's comms, though |
| 04:12.26 | Antiarc | So it's fine if you do that |
| 04:12.29 | buu | What is it sending to? |
| 04:12.37 | Silowyi | I would do that |
| 04:12.44 | Silowyi | I don't care if anyone else knows what I'm tracking, lol |
| 04:12.48 | Silowyi | or anything |
| 04:13.06 | vithos | hmm.. who was it who changed the prat url matching patterns? |
| 04:13.20 | vithos | doesn't match / at the end of a url |
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| 04:32.16 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r48876 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/ (QuestData-A.lua QuestData-C.lua QuestData-H.lua): |
| 04:32.16 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 04:32.16 | CIA-22 | - Quest database updated |
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| 05:02.16 | ckknight | cya all laer |
| 05:02.34 | aestil | g'nite |
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| 05:14.42 | aestil | Antiarc: Sanity2 shows me in the tooltip of how many of an item + which character has them. But when I go to search, I can only use the search for items on the character I'm on. Is iti not possible to also search for stuff on alts, while on main? |
| 05:15.01 | Antiarc | It is, use the character selector at the top of the window |
| 05:15.04 | Antiarc | The blue glowy |
| 05:16.23 | aestil | thanks. i never got that was a drop down. looks cool, but i'd like a little arrow there like most other drop down dialogs. TY though. |
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| 05:19.36 | aestil | ckknight: got bored? |
| 05:19.51 | ckknight | bored with what? |
| 05:19.53 | ckknight | I'm at my brother's place now |
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| 05:25.11 | aestil | oh. thought you went to level your pally. |
| 05:25.53 | aestil | Is there some sort of ettiquite involved with picking up development on an abandoned mod? |
| 05:26.57 | Antiarc | Contact the author and ask for permission unless it's licensed in such a way that allows you to pick up development |
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| 05:35.05 | aestil | i can't develop anything, I'm just wondering what it would take for development on Avion to continue. |
| 05:37.13 | loonacy | aestil: $50 would be a good start. |
| 05:38.28 | aestil | avion is like poweraura 2. |
| 05:38.36 | aestil | its basically visual triggers. |
| 05:39.27 | yssaril | Antiarc: is there a way to setup custom filters/tags with sanity2? |
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| 05:39.51 | Antiarc | yssaril: Click on an item icon in the sanity display and you can categorize/tag it as you see fit |
| 05:39.55 | hypetech | anybody on that's familiar with reading tankpoints? |
| 05:40.05 | yssaril | Antiarc: cool thanks :) |
| 05:41.37 | hypetech | or at least anybody know what top/bottom is in tankpoints? |
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| 05:42.33 | yssaril | Antiarc: alright i created one new tag and then tried to untag it and then wow froze up like if it did an infinite loop or something |
| 05:44.46 | Antiarc | Hm. Haven't seen that happen, but I'll see if I can reproduce it. |
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| 05:51.32 | Fisker- | Antiarc so kenco made ktm work with threat or just screwed it up for you? |
| 05:52.12 | Antiarc | The version queries still don't work |
| 05:52.32 | aestil | i thought ktm development stopped? |
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| 05:53.07 | Antiarc | It's certainly slowed |
| 05:53.25 | Antiarc | But Kenco changed it so that if any threat traffic is detected it won't report that person as running KTM, even if they are |
| 05:53.42 | aestil | whats the difference, threat is event based, and ktm is poll based? |
| 05:53.48 | Antiarc | Among other things |
| 05:53.57 | Antiarc | Threat does multi-target and has per-boss modules, as well |
| 05:54.14 | aestil | obviously those things :) |
| 05:54.15 | vithos | ktm doesn't have boss modules? |
| 05:54.23 | aestil | i'm trying to understand what poll v event means. |
| 05:54.28 | Antiarc | It has some hardcoded boss stuff, but no, not particularly |
| 05:54.40 | Antiarc | aestil: polling means that KTM checks to see if you're a hunter every two seconds |
| 05:54.45 | Arrowmaster | just hard coded threat wipes on certain things |
| 05:55.01 | aestil | whaaa? |
| 05:55.09 | aestil | why wouldl he need to check that? |
| 05:55.11 | Antiarc | Basically, KTM doesn't respond to events. It just checks a ton of stuff on timers. |
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| 05:55.40 | Antiarc | It checks to see if you're fighting the twin emps every couple of seconds, checks your class every few seconds, scans your buffs every few seconds, etc. |
| 05:55.52 | Antiarc | Even when you're idle, which is what results in its extreme CPU usage numbers |
| 05:55.54 | Xinhuan | aestil: polling essentially means constantly running a function to check on the state of whatever you are interested in |
| 05:56.02 | aestil | it must do events for abilities you use. |
| 05:56.17 | aestil | like if you arcane shot, or mind blast. right? |
| 05:56.21 | Antiarc | Yes, naturally |
| 05:56.29 | Antiarc | But lots of other stuff it just brute-forces |
| 05:56.36 | aestil | ah. |
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| 05:56.53 | aestil | you feel, at this point, that the threat values in threat 1.0 are 'accurate'? |
| 05:56.55 | Wobwor1 | I know that personally, I've spontaneously turned into a hunter at times |
| 05:57.05 | Antiarc | Yes, quite so. |
| 05:57.05 | Wobwor1 | IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU! |
| 05:57.09 | Xinhuan | for example, if 2 computer pheriphals are communicating with each other via a polling method, the CPU would constantly check to see if the pheriphal is trying to send data by reading a flag on the pheripheral |
| 05:57.19 | Antiarc | We've cleared SSC and most all of TK, and it works beautifully for us |
| 05:57.22 | Xinhuan | if it is, it reads that data, if it isn't, then it doesn't |
| 05:57.24 | Wobwor1 | (I got better...) |
| 05:57.37 | aestil | lol. i have a pally tank in my guild that swears its not accurate for him while tanking. |
| 05:57.38 | Xinhuan | on the other hand, changing that to a IRQ system (interrupt event system) |
| 05:57.53 | Xinhuan | means the CPU doesn't bother checking the pheripheral at all |
| 05:57.56 | Wobwor1 | well, if noone else is using it... |
| 05:58.15 | Xinhuan | CPU will only respond if the pheripheral sends a Interrupt signal on the IRQ lines |
| 05:58.20 | aestil | ah. I just never understood what the term 'polling' means. |
| 05:58.21 | Xinhuan | that's event vs polling |
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| 05:58.29 | aestil | ty for your explanation. |
| 05:58.43 | Arrowmaster | thats a great explanation |
| 05:59.02 | Xinhuan | another example is the Mouse cursor... suppose you write an application and you want your mouse cursor to be a certain icon when its on a certain object |
| 05:59.09 | aestil | i pretty much stopped using KTM as soon as omen worked at all. |
| 05:59.19 | Xinhuan | a polling method would constantly query for the position of the cursor and change the cursor accordingly |
| 05:59.34 | Xinhuan | a event system would only call that function to change the cursor if the mouse cursor moved |
| 05:59.37 | aestil | event method would send a msg when the mouse went over the icon. |
| 06:00.54 | aestil | fights like leo making KTM's method useless. |
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| 06:01.27 | aestil | someone in guild was using KTM and after first transition was always 1st on threat. that was a frustrating night. |
| 06:02.38 | alcohol | has anyone gotten wuu 1.5 to work on os x ? |
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| 06:16.38 | ckknight | hey, how long to cease and desist orders take to go into effect? |
| 06:17.42 | Xinhuan | immediately? |
| 06:19.24 | Wobwor1 | otherwise they'd be called "Consider and stop eventually" |
| 06:19.57 | rob` | soon as you get 'em, I imagine. |
| 06:20.18 | Antiarc | Odd question. |
| 06:21.03 | Wobwor1 | What differentiates 3 from 2? |
| 06:21.18 | ckknight | note: this is for my brother, not for me |
| 06:21.36 | Wobwor1 | is he the claimant or defendant? |
| 06:21.42 | ckknight | clamant |
| 06:21.45 | ckknight | claimant* |
| 06:22.01 | Wobwor1 | can you talk about the circumstances? |
| 06:22.15 | ckknight | trademark infringement |
| 06:22.19 | ckknight | for a martial arts event |
| 06:22.49 | nevcairiel | when a judge writes the c&d order, its effective immediately |
| 06:23.03 | ckknight | in America, a Judge isn't 100% necessary |
| 06:23.03 | Wobwor1 | but as it's coming up to the weekend, you may have to move fast =) |
| 06:23.27 | nevcairiel | if its not issued by a judge, is only a warning, from what i understand |
| 06:23.52 | rob` | Wobwor1: 3 is the cardinality of this set: { x x x } |
| 06:24.02 | rob` | whereas 2 is the cardinality of this set: { x x } |
| 06:24.05 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 06:24.07 | rob` | that's the difference. |
| 06:24.28 | Wobwor1 | It's an odd question, see? |
| 06:24.29 | rob` | <-- hilarious |
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| 06:24.45 | rob` | oh hah |
| 06:24.46 | Wobwor1 | ckknight: if not issued by a judge, it's just a C&D letter |
| 06:24.48 | rob` | ZING |
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| 06:24.58 | Wobwor1 | in which you threaten legal action if the actions are not stopped |
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| 06:25.25 | Wobwor1 | the judicial method is legally binding on execution |
| 06:25.31 | ckknight | Wobwor1: okay, he knows 2 judges |
| 06:25.34 | Wobwor1 | the letter, is just that, a letter of demand |
| 06:25.34 | ckknight | so it's good |
| 06:25.42 | Wobwor1 | ^^ |
| 06:26.08 | WobWork | stupid Pidgin, it shows my nick as WobWork, even if I'm WobWor1 |
| 06:26.31 | ckknight | lame |
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| 06:27.29 | ckknight | turns out they're on the supreme court (of Hawaii) |
| 06:27.30 | ckknight | good times |
| 06:27.53 | Sole | good connections |
| 06:28.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:29.05 | Sole | so today, at school, I found some seizure-inducing programs I wrote during class last year ^_^ |
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| 06:29.26 | ckknight | his wife's the grandnephew of one of em |
| 06:29.31 | ckknight | lol, Sole |
| 06:29.37 | Sole | theyre funneh |
| 06:30.10 | Sole | one of them just changes colour REALLY fast |
| 06:30.32 | Sole | another one has a timer which waits, so the user thinks its all good and start filling in the data |
| 06:30.36 | Sole | then the colour starts changing |
| 06:30.46 | Sole | and the interval is halved every execution |
| 06:31.02 | Sole | then eventually the program window's position is set to a random point |
| 06:31.05 | Sole | and that speeds up too |
| 06:31.24 | Nickenyfiken | Morning |
| 06:31.30 | Sole | half the people freak out, the other half are smart and alt+f4 :( |
| 06:31.55 | Sole | is there some way to prevent a program from being terminated by alt+f4? |
| 06:32.04 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:32.14 | Xinhuan | Hook the program exit function to not return true |
| 06:32.29 | Sole | I'm gonna have to try that |
| 06:32.42 | Xinhuan | when you shut down an application, windows OS calls a function inside the app if it exists |
| 06:32.48 | Xinhuan | for shutting down |
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| 06:33.27 | Xinhuan | this is how say MS Word and any number of programs can prompt you to "Save", "Don't Save", "Cancel" |
| 06:33.35 | Xinhuan | no matter what method you use to exit the program |
| 06:34.03 | Xinhuan | if that function returns true, then the app terminates, otherwise it doesn't |
| 06:34.27 | Tekkub | okey.... lil help... can never remember... |
| 06:34.36 | Tekkub | if all args are optional... is it... |
| 06:34.48 | Tekkub | blah:method([a, b, c]) or... |
| 06:35.06 | Tekkub | blah:method([a[, b[, c]]]) |
| 06:35.08 | Tekkub | or... |
| 06:35.21 | Tekkub | [a, ][b, ][c]) |
| 06:35.21 | Xinhuan | blah:method([a[, b[, c]]]) |
| 06:35.23 | Antiarc | [a,b,c] if it's 0 or 3 |
| 06:35.54 | Xinhuan | blah:method([a[, b[, c]]]) <-- implies that the 1st and 2nd argument must be supplied if you want to give the 3rd |
| 06:36.12 | Tekkub | first doesn't have to be "supplied", it just needs a nil... |
| 06:36.20 | Xinhuan | nil is still a supplied value |
| 06:36.21 | WobWork | [a][b][c] means all are optional |
| 06:36.24 | Tekkub | I.E. (nil, 2, 3) not (2,3) |
| 06:36.32 | Xinhuan | ([a, ][b, ][c]) implies that the function is vararg |
| 06:36.32 | Tekkub | okey |
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| 06:36.40 | WobWork | which doesn't work with most stuff =P |
| 06:36.41 | Antiarc | [a [, b [, c]]] then |
| 06:36.43 | WobWork | yeah |
| 06:36.47 | Tekkub | damn weird syntax shit |
| 06:37.08 | WobWork | varargs generally is [whateva] |
| 06:37.08 | Dynom | once you get used to it it's lovely to be honest |
| 06:37.32 | Dynom | Tekkub: it's widely used, only not in the language but in the comments in most other languages |
| 06:37.53 | Tekkub | I know I'm used to it, I just get confused by compound bracket |
| 06:37.55 | Tekkub | *s |
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| 06:39.54 | alcohol | doh |
| 06:39.55 | alcohol | doh |
| 06:39.58 | alcohol | @%#$ |
| 06:40.21 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r48877 10SimpleCombatLog/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:40.21 | CIA-22 | SimpleCombatLog: |
| 06:40.21 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 06:40.21 | CIA-22 | - added some localizable strings (Show/Hide in Watch function, Help/Reset/Show in the chat command, the format names in Format function) |
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| 06:54.39 | the-golem_ | boooo |
| 06:54.47 | the-golem_ | i need to tweak my Pitbull |
| 06:55.39 | CIA-22 | 03yssaril * r48878 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_Comm.lua YssGuildShop.toc): |
| 06:55.39 | CIA-22 | YssGuildShop: |
| 06:55.39 | CIA-22 | - fixed bug where the scroll bar table would get reset when you receive new data (have to close and reopen to update the current data) |
| 06:55.48 | charon | morning |
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| 06:59.46 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r48879 10SimpleCombatLog/locales/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 06:59.46 | CIA-22 | SimpleCombatLog: |
| 06:59.46 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 06:59.48 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WidgetWarlock |
| 06:59.53 | Tekkub | now I got style :P |
| 07:00.06 | Tekkub | look better'n the usual API docs if you ask me |
| 07:00.26 | Tekkub | note that the TOC isn't all apeshit, nice and simple |
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| 07:04.35 | Xinhuan | wait, so what does this library do? |
| 07:04.52 | Tekkub | it's just widget templates |
| 07:04.56 | Tekkub | for GUI configs |
| 07:05.03 | Xinhuan | "an embed library designed to summon widget and enslave tooltips for developers of GUI config panels" |
| 07:05.07 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure i understand that |
| 07:05.20 | Tekkub | oops forget widgets |
| 07:05.28 | charon | "designed to summon widget and enslave tooltips" :D |
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| 07:06.32 | WobWork | I admit |
| 07:06.44 | WobWork | that name makes more sense than some of ck's addon names =P |
| 07:06.45 | Tekkub | the point is the pgae styling, not the content :P |
| 07:06.59 | Xinhuan | so this library creates widgets for my addon as needed? ^^ |
| 07:07.28 | Tekkub | it's like CreateFrame with a template, basically |
| 07:07.36 | Xinhuan | hmm i could be interested in it |
| 07:07.38 | Tekkub | but no XML, no global names for the frames |
| 07:07.56 | Xinhuan | my next WoWEquip version should have a options dialog box for configurable stuff |
| 07:07.59 | Xinhuan | but i haven't written it yet |
| 07:08.02 | Tekkub | it mimics blizzard's UIConfig templates as much as possible |
| 07:08.32 | Xinhuan | add a screenshot imo |
| 07:09.05 | Tekkub | there is no screenshot, it's a library :P |
| 07:09.19 | Tekkub | open the interface control panel and look at the sliders and checkboxes |
| 07:09.57 | Xinhuan | i assume you didn't inherit from any of the default UI templates? |
| 07:10.11 | Tekkub | no, the all use names |
| 07:10.23 | Tekkub | I don't want frames littering up the global namespace :P |
| 07:10.28 | Fisker- | heeeey |
| 07:10.30 | Fisker- | i attacked >* |
| 07:10.32 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:10.33 | Tekkub | if I did, I'd just use the templates in the first place |
| 07:11.39 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 07:11.52 | Tekkub | most fun you'll ever have in a waterbed |
| 07:12.10 | Xinhuan | i currently have my own GroupBox backdrop, dunno if i can be arsed converting it to widgetwarlock :o |
| 07:13.01 | Tekkub | teh backdrop looks nice, especially with the edit box |
| 07:13.10 | Tekkub | it looks kinda like it's carved out |
| 07:13.12 | Xinhuan | i assume your functions returns a reference to the widgets, although you didn't state that anywhere |
| 07:13.25 | Tekkub | oh bugger I forgot the returns |
| 07:13.34 | charon | Tekkub: i notice you only mention some <div class=...>, does that mean all api pages will soon look that nice? :) |
| 07:13.37 | Tekkub | stupid API docs |
| 07:13.52 | Tekkub | it means nothing for the other pages |
| 07:13.59 | charon | ah. pity |
| 07:14.24 | Tekkub | I do some magics to get the TOC to not be all hideous like the current ones |
| 07:14.30 | Tekkub | notice it's only the method names |
| 07:16.17 | yssaril | tekkub that looks friggin lovely |
| 07:17.37 | Xinhuan | using that would certainly be a bit neater than having a few million setwidth(), height, point and other stuff in code |
| 07:18.08 | yssaril | Tekkub: any plans of adding a scroll box widget (would also help if you could link multible scroll areas to one scroll bar |
| 07:18.23 | Tekkub | not ATM |
| 07:18.35 | yssaril | or even easier yet scroll a frame instead of text :) |
| 07:18.37 | Tekkub | scroll frames are easy to do on your own really |
| 07:18.54 | Tekkub | I HATE FauxScrollFramm |
| 07:19.17 | Xinhuan | WidgetWarlock:SummonEditBox |
| 07:19.21 | Xinhuan | is that editbox multiline? |
| 07:19.25 | Tekkub | I might make a scroll bar widget, but you'll still have to set it's position and scripts |
| 07:19.29 | Xinhuan | or changable manually |
| 07:19.32 | Tekkub | not by default |
| 07:19.40 | Tekkub | might be manually, havn't tried |
| 07:19.59 | Xinhuan | the texture on it won't screw up if expanded to say 200 pixels height right? |
| 07:20.04 | Tekkub | if it's not, we can make a multiline one |
| 07:20.10 | Xinhuan | the default editbox templates don't work for that one |
| 07:20.11 | Tekkub | hell if I know |
| 07:20.13 | Xinhuan | in the default UI |
| 07:20.22 | Tekkub | then prolly not |
| 07:20.28 | Xinhuan | since the .tga only allows a specific height |
| 07:20.41 | Xinhuan | i had to write a separate backdrop for it |
| 07:20.43 | yssaril | tekkub what i am looking for is a widget that scrolls like smooth not like that fauxscrolly thing |
| 07:20.58 | Tekkub | never dealt with smooth scrolly |
| 07:21.18 | Xinhuan | smooth scrolly is already supported in scrollboxes isn't it? |
| 07:21.18 | Tekkub | there, API has the returns now |
| 07:23.48 | yssaril | Xinhuan: yea ScrollFrame does it http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_ScrollFrame |
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| 07:24.48 | yssaril | tekkub so would it be possible to create a complex frame with WidgetWarlock and dump it into a ScrollFrame? |
| 07:25.00 | Tekkub | I don't see why not |
| 07:25.11 | Tekkub | WW is just there to provide controls for your config |
| 07:25.23 | Tekkub | you still have to do all the wrapper for it |
| 07:26.00 | Xinhuan | is this lib available on trunk? |
| 07:26.09 | Xinhuan | or branches |
| 07:26.38 | Tekkub | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/WidgetWarlock/ |
| 07:27.00 | Tekkub | DO NOT release the trunk version |
| 07:27.04 | yssaril | Tekkub: is there a way to summon a frame or do you have to create it first yourself? |
| 07:27.12 | Tekkub | I'll tag it up when it's complete |
| 07:27.33 | Tekkub | CreateFrame.... why would I abstract that one?: P |
| 07:27.42 | yssaril | duh lol |
| 07:28.10 | Tekkub | Just think of these as FrameXML templates |
| 07:28.18 | Tekkub | minus global namespace litter |
| 07:28.43 | yssaril | k |
| 07:28.46 | Xinhuan | well global namespace litter doesn't really affect anything |
| 07:28.47 | Nickenyfiken | WidgetWarlock heh |
| 07:29.23 | yssaril | tekkub: how long till release? |
| 07:30.18 | Tekkub | When it's done |
| 07:30.48 | Tekkub | I don't know what other widgets are needed yet, obviously a multi-line edit box is gonna be needed |
| 07:31.03 | Tekkub | there's a few other things like the grey hover-button I need to convert |
| 07:31.19 | yssaril | greyhover button?? |
| 07:31.31 | Tekkub | like "Delete" in the macro window |
| 07:31.38 | yssaril | ahhh k |
| 07:32.09 | yssaril | one that is greyed out cause you dont want to click it unless you really want to ? |
| 07:32.26 | Tekkub | yea, gets a red highlight on hover |
| 07:32.51 | yssaril | hate that button always confuses me when i clean out my macroes :) |
| 07:33.47 | yssaril | but it does what it is inteded to to stops me from clicking on it accidentally |
| 07:34.54 | yssaril | alright night guys |
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| 07:39.49 | Antiarc | Yaaaay |
| 07:39.57 | Antiarc | The DoTimer author removed the comms stuff from her latest release |
| 07:39.58 | pb_ee1 | morning |
| 07:40.01 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r48880 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0-CallbackHandler/ (AceEvent-3.0.lua CallbackHandler-1.0.lua): |
| 07:40.01 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - Set keywords property _right_ this time :P |
| 07:40.01 | CIA-22 | ~lart [Ammo] |
| 07:40.01 | purl | farts in [Ammo]'s general direction |
| 07:40.03 | Antiarc | his, her, whatever |
| 07:40.07 | pb_ee1 | ~seen ckknight |
| 07:40.14 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@cpe-76-88-184-201.hawaii.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 10m 43s ago, saying: 'lol, Sole '. |
| 07:40.27 | Sole | YOU DARE PING ME!? |
| 07:40.33 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 07:40.46 | Sole | DURING MY "HAPPY TIME"? |
| 07:40.49 | Sole | diaf |
| 07:40.51 | pb_ee1 | It's purl's fault ! |
| 07:44.22 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:49.06 | orionshock | ... question to those that know -- is there a :GetPoint() type function? |
| 07:49.21 | orionshock | im trying to get the position of a frame |
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| 07:49.47 | charon | you seem to be quite in a habit of parrying here, considering not all classes can ;) |
| 07:50.10 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r48881 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (ActionBarStates.lua Button.lua Defaults.lua): |
| 07:50.10 | CIA-22 | Bartender3: |
| 07:50.10 | CIA-22 | - added an option to hide bars in certain stances |
| 07:50.30 | nevcairiel | orionshock: try GetPoint() :P |
| 07:50.45 | phyber | :q |
| 07:51.06 | phyber | ..... wrong xterm. |
| 07:51.47 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r48882 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3.toc Core.lua): Bartender3: bumped version to 3.1.2 |
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| 07:53.44 | orionshock | nevcairiel: that's what i was looking for... google + wowwiki = :D |
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| 07:59.02 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r48883 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3.lua Bartender3.toc Core.lua): Bartender3: cleanup et al |
| 07:59.31 | ramoz | nevcairiel: wanna add a option forhiding hotkeys? |
| 07:59.59 | nevcairiel | thats not in? |
| 08:00.01 | nevcairiel | i thought it was |
| 08:00.26 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 08:00.30 | ramoz | i couldn't find it in the config |
| 08:00.32 | ramoz | where/how? |
| 08:00.41 | nevcairiel | Bar 1 -> Hotkey |
| 08:00.46 | nevcairiel | for example |
| 08:00.50 | nevcairiel | its a per-bar config |
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| 08:01.03 | ramoz | think i need to go and get new glasses |
| 08:01.08 | CIA-22 | 03phanx * r48884 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealth.lua: |
| 08:01.08 | CIA-22 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 08:01.08 | CIA-22 | - Fixed another health format nil value error |
| 08:01.08 | CIA-22 | - Added format options for power text |
| 08:03.19 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48885 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 08:03.19 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 08:03.19 | CIA-22 | - Cosmetic update |
| 08:04.08 | charon | eh? WWS thinks gruul gained 'Growth' 5 times on last night's kill |
| 08:04.10 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48886 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 08:04.10 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:04.10 | CIA-22 | - Added links to the AV and AB factions rep rewards from the BG maps. |
| 08:04.10 | CIA-22 | - Cosmetic update |
| 08:05.15 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48887 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 08:05.15 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 08:05.16 | CIA-22 | - Cosmetic Changes |
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| 08:09.49 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r48888 10Baggins_ItemRack/Baggins_ItemRack.toc: Baggins_ItemRack: Prepare to tag version 1.0 |
| 08:10.12 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r48889 10Baggins_ClosetGnome/Baggins_ClosetGnome.toc: Baggins_ClosetGnome: Prepare to tag version 1.0 |
| 08:10.38 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r48890 10Baggins_Usable/Baggins_Usable.toc: Baggins_Usable: Prepare to tag version 1.0 |
| 08:11.16 | orionshock | ah cladbot dosn't take tells |
| 08:11.31 | orionshock | lua> position = 25 + 124*(1 - 50/100) |
| 08:11.32 | cladbot | orionshock: |
| 08:11.35 | orionshock | lol |
| 08:11.52 | nevcairiel | it doesnt have anything to output |
| 08:11.57 | nevcairiel | what did you expect |
| 08:12.02 | orionshock | lua> position = 25 + 124*(1 - 50/100); print(position) |
| 08:12.02 | cladbot | orionshock: 87 |
| 08:12.07 | orionshock | there we go.. |
| 08:12.25 | Sarana | There is a lua interpreter bot? Cool |
| 08:13.11 | orionshock | lua> 50 = ((((position-25)/124))+1)*100; print(position) |
| 08:13.11 | cladbot | orionshock: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "50 = ((((position-25)/124))+1)*100; print(position)"]:1: unexpected symbol near '50' |
| 08:13.18 | charon | mh a question about OptionalDeps: suppose i want to optdep SharedMedia-1.0, do i refer to it as SharedMediaLib (the directory), or SharedMedia-1.0 (Name as per toc), or SharedMedia (Antagonist uses that)? |
| 08:13.20 | orionshock | hehe.. |
| 08:13.25 | orionshock | ok so that dosn't work too well |
| 08:13.30 | orionshock | back to the drawing board |
| 08:14.06 | Sarana | For tagging it's svn copy http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/addonname http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/tags/addonname/v#.# right? |
| 08:14.47 | orionshock | lua> value = ((((87-25)/124))+1)*100; print(value) |
| 08:14.48 | cladbot | orionshock: 150 |
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| 08:15.25 | Nickenyfiken | Sarana: you can add -m "message" or something too i think |
| 08:15.54 | Nickenyfiken | Or use Tortoise |
| 08:15.57 | Sarana | Thanks. (Nayala by the way. Either forgot my nick password or someone else registered the same name here first) |
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| 08:18.07 | Zariel | how do apply a color to some text which already exists in the ui? |
| 08:18.38 | Zariel | im trying to set the buff color white |
| 08:18.44 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r48891 10/tags/Baggins_ItemRack/: Baggins_ItemRack: Prepare for tagging |
| 08:18.52 | CIA-22 | 03nayala 07v1.0 * r48892 10Baggins_ItemRack/: Baggins_ItemRack: Tag v1.0 |
| 08:19.24 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r48893 10/tags/Baggins_ClosetGnome/: Baggins_ClosetGnome: Prepare for tagging |
| 08:19.56 | CIA-22 | 03nayala 07v1.0 * r48894 10Baggins_ClosetGnome/: Baggins_ClosetGnome: Tag v1.0 |
| 08:21.42 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r48895 10/tags/Baggins_Usable/: Baggins_Usable: Prepare for tagging |
| 08:22.16 | CIA-22 | 03nayala 07v1.0 * r48896 10Baggins_Usable/: Baggins_Usable: Tag v1.0 |
| 08:22.29 | orionshock | lua> p = 25 + 124*(1 - 50/100); print(p) |
| 08:22.29 | cladbot | orionshock: 87 |
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| 08:23.00 | orionshock | lua> v=(((87-25)/124)+1)*100; print(v) |
| 08:23.00 | cladbot | orionshock: 150 |
| 08:23.25 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r48897 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3.toc: Bartender3: update .toc |
| 08:24.28 | charon | Sarana: you can talk to the admins on #freenode or whatever it was, since NickServ tells me Nayala hasn't been seen for a year and a half they'll probably remove the entry so you can register |
| 08:24.35 | Zariel | im trying to set the buff color white |
| 08:24.39 | Zariel | lua > q = floor(23 * 92^2); print(q) |
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| 08:26.13 | krka_ | you know, you could just do: lua> return <expr> instead of lua> x = <expr>; print(x) |
| 08:26.38 | nevcairiel | lua> 7 |
| 08:26.39 | cladbot | nevcairiel: 7 |
| 08:26.43 | nevcairiel | you can even drop the return |
| 08:27.01 | nevcairiel | lua> floor(23 * 92^2) |
| 08:27.01 | cladbot | nevcairiel: 194672, |
| 08:27.16 | orionshock | 25 + 124*(1 - 75/100) |
| 08:27.20 | orionshock | lua> 25 + 124*(1 - 75/100) |
| 08:27.20 | cladbot | orionshock: 56 |
| 08:27.46 | orionshock | lua> (((56-25)/124)+1)*100 |
| 08:27.46 | cladbot | orionshock: 125 |
| 08:28.08 | orionshock | ok now that toaly donsn't make sense |
| 08:28.24 | orionshock | i have got to be doing my math all wrong |
| 08:28.43 | orionshock | p = 25 + 124*(1 - v/100) -- isolate v |
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| 08:29.21 | Zariel | for some reason, on my pitbull my blank space keeps disabling on my target frame on reloadui |
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| 08:32.57 | Malkom | Is there anybody who can answer me on a question on Parrot ? |
| 08:33.44 | LI|FUnk | Searching for MultiFocus Addon - something like ArenaMaster for RaidInstances |
| 08:33.51 | Nargiddley | lua> p = 56;return (-100((p-25)/124)) - 1 |
| 08:33.52 | cladbot | Nargiddley: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "p = 56;return (-100((p-25)/124)) - 1"]:1: ')' expected near '(' |
| 08:34.22 | Nargiddley | lua> p = 56;return (-100*((p-25)/124)) - 1 |
| 08:34.22 | cladbot | Nargiddley: -26 |
| 08:34.40 | Nargiddley | is that it orionshock ? |
| 08:35.01 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48898 10Ace3/ (9 files in 8 dirs): |
| 08:35.01 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - ACE-8 |
| 08:35.01 | CIA-22 | - add .xml files |
| 08:35.02 | Nargiddley | no wait i messed up :/ |
| 08:35.29 | orionshock | we're provided P |
| 08:35.36 | orionshock | so we solve for V |
| 08:36.09 | charon | anyone have a 10 Things You Did Wrong Since It's Your First Addon checklist handy? |
| 08:36.25 | charon | (svn:eol-style -- check, svn:mime-type -- check, svn:externals -- check) |
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| 08:39.13 | packetlss | nån som har nån erfarenhet av Varnish? |
| 08:39.40 | orionshock | lua> ((87/124)-26)100 |
| 08:39.40 | cladbot | orionshock: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "((87/124)-26)100"]:1: syntax error near '100' |
| 08:39.49 | orionshock | lua> ((87/124)-26)*100 |
| 08:39.49 | cladbot | orionshock: -2529.8387096774 |
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| 08:40.51 | orionshock | im half way tempted to just short arm it and use a for i=0,100 loop to solve for v |
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| 08:41.23 | Zariel | what you trying to do? |
| 08:41.29 | Adirelle|Work | Nickenyfiken: yes ? |
| 08:41.55 | orionshock | Zariel: p = 25 + 124*(1 - v/100) -- swap v and p |
| 08:42.14 | Nargiddley | i keep coming up with the same thing you did :/ |
| 08:42.17 | Zariel | to solv V? |
| 08:42.23 | Zariel | leme grab a pen |
| 08:42.52 | Nickenyfiken | Adirelle|Work: function WeaponBuffClass.prototype:CheckSlot(). I'm looking a bit on the SSR code and wonder what that function do if you have no weapon in your offhand ^^ |
| 08:43.31 | orionshock | for i=0,100 do; if xOfs = 25+124*(1- i/100) then return i end; end |
| 08:44.10 | Adirelle|Work | er... wait |
| 08:44.13 | Nickenyfiken | SSR don't seems to understand when you change weapons from DW to 2H |
| 08:44.15 | LI|FUnk | Searching for MultiFocus Addon - something like ArenaMaster for RaidInstances |
| 08:45.07 | Adirelle|Work | crap, trac is down |
| 08:45.17 | orionshock | iirc trac is gone |
| 08:45.28 | Nickenyfiken | fish.wowace.com |
| 08:45.58 | Sarana | p - 25 = 124*(1 - v/100) => (p-25)/124 = 1 - v/100 => (p-25)/124 - 1 = -v/100 => 100((p-25)/124 -1) = -v => v = -100((p-25)/124 -1) => v = 100(1-(p-25)/124) |
| 08:46.39 | orionshock | lua > 25 + 124*(1 - 50/100) |
| 08:46.43 | charon | svn: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/984a9a77-143a-0410-8d40-bddcb82d7127': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 08:46.48 | charon | what am i doing wrong? :( |
| 08:46.50 | orionshock | lua> 25 + 124*(1 - 50/100) |
| 08:46.50 | cladbot | orionshock: 87 |
| 08:46.54 | charon | note that it _is_ dev.wowace.com i'm using |
| 08:47.07 | orionshock | lua> 100(1-(87-25)/124) |
| 08:47.07 | cladbot | orionshock: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "100(1-(87-25)/124)"]:1: unexpected symbol near '100' |
| 08:47.12 | orionshock | lua> 100*(1-(87-25)/124) |
| 08:47.13 | cladbot | orionshock: 50 |
| 08:47.22 | orionshock | ah ha |
| 08:47.24 | orionshock | he found it |
| 08:47.30 | Nickenyfiken | rofl |
| 08:48.04 | orionshock | thank you very much Sarana |
| 08:48.23 | orionshock | it's been too many years and i forget my algebra |
| 08:48.27 | Zariel | hm |
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| 08:48.33 | Zariel | i get |
| 08:48.50 | orionshock | LI|FUnk: it's called raid frames -- try it |
| 08:48.53 | Zariel | (1000[262.4 - p |
| 08:48.55 | Zariel | (1000[262.4 - p] |
| 08:49.02 | Zariel | (1000[262.4 - p] / 12400 = v |
| 08:49.10 | Zariel | (1000[262.4 - p] / 12400) = v |
| 08:49.25 | Adirelle|Work | Nickenyfiken: when there is no weapon, itemLink should be nil, so itemEquipLock should be nil, then self.canBuff should be false |
| 08:49.33 | Zariel | fail :( |
| 08:49.43 | LI|FUnk | @orionshock): With Raidframes you only can set one focus |
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| 08:50.09 | orionshock | right you only get one focus |
| 08:50.24 | orionshock | period - end of story --- have a day |
| 08:50.36 | Adirelle|Work | Nickenyfiken: does GetInventoryItemLink return something on off-hand when a 2H weapon is equipped ? |
| 08:50.38 | charon | LI|FUnk: oRA has PlayerTargets similiar to MTT... i suppose that's all you can get since the API only has a single "focus" as orion says |
| 08:50.40 | cryogen | what hes talking about are Player Targets |
| 08:50.52 | cryogen | but i guess he wants to be able to watch mobs and bosses too |
| 08:51.57 | LI|FUnk | yes but what i want is an addon that works like ArenaMaster so the RaidLeader is able to set 1-5 targets (mobs, bosses, ...) |
| 08:51.58 | Nickenyfiken | Adirelle|Work: Yeah, well I'm not sure. I have to debug when i get home. There is an issue but i don't know it its that function. All i know is that SSR think the offhand is missing a buff. But It should think "hey there is no offhand so no buff is missing there" |
| 08:52.15 | Nickenyfiken | May be another part though |
| 08:52.54 | orionshock | LI|FUnk: ya .. it's called MainTankTargets -- it's from classically oRa / CTRA and the interesting use of Raid Icons |
| 08:53.26 | orionshock | trust me what your thinking of has been a want of the entire community sence BWL days.. but the closest your going to get is raid icons and MT targets |
| 08:53.37 | cryogen | you can get what you want |
| 08:53.45 | cryogen | but they wont be clickable or anything |
| 08:53.56 | cryogen | (same as arenamaster iirc) |
| 08:54.14 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.40 | LI|FUnk | hmm grml |
| 08:54.51 | orionshock | maybe the closest you'll get is in the next patch you can set a frame to exe a macro that target's by name |
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| 08:54.59 | cryogen | orionshock: you can have random mobs providing they dont have the same name |
| 08:55.02 | orionshock | and that could only be set Out Of Combat |
| 08:55.11 | cryogen | you'd just do it the same way as arenamaster does it |
| 08:55.24 | cryogen | it wouldnt be 100% accurate or particularly useful, but you coudl do it :) |
| 08:55.27 | orionshock | right but the usefullness w/o exact name targeting is nil |
| 08:55.59 | Adirelle|Work | Nickenyfiken: got something, trying a fix |
| 08:56.38 | LI|FUnk | you know the addon "FocusFrame" ? |
| 08:57.02 | orionshock | yes vaguely familiar with it |
| 08:57.13 | Nickenyfiken | Adirelle|Work: oki |
| 08:57.46 | LI|FUnk | is it possible to rewrite the variable names to get addon1 addon2 addon 3, ... ? |
| 08:59.59 | orionshock | LI|FUnk: sorry ask your question again; it doesn't make sense |
| 09:00.40 | LI|FUnk | ok sry |
| 09:00.44 | charon | ok so after some WireSharking around, i'm fairly convinced it sends the right login |
| 09:00.53 | charon | so what does a 403 mean if i'm correctly auth'ed? |
| 09:02.00 | orionshock | are you committing to svn.wowace.com or dev.wowace.com? |
| 09:02.32 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r48899 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: |
| 09:02.32 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 09:02.32 | CIA-22 | - attempt to fix the trying-to-buff-missing-off-hand-weapon bug. |
| 09:02.40 | charon | orionshock: to dev.wowace.com |
| 09:02.53 | charon | i'm working in a non-recursively checked out trunk/ |
| 09:02.54 | orionshock | mk; what's your commit command look like? |
| 09:03.05 | orionshock | --you using CLI svn client or a gui svn client? |
| 09:03.14 | charon | $ svn ci -F svn-commit.tmp Mangler/ |
| 09:03.21 | charon | for now, CLI since i'm fairly familiar with it |
| 09:03.27 | LI|FUnk | if you have focusframe 1... is it possible to copy this addon + editing the varibles to get the addon focusframe2? If it works you have 2 FocusFrames |
| 09:03.48 | orionshock | LI|FUnk: wrong you have 2 frames pointing at the same unit |
| 09:03.53 | orionshock | ~wiki unitid |
| 09:04.09 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.36 | orionshock | ~wiki UnitID |
| 09:04.42 | orionshock | ~wiki UnitId |
| 09:04.42 | charon | orionshock: also, the svn-commit.tmp starts with Mangler: as required per the rules |
| 09:04.51 | orionshock | fuck you purl |
| 09:04.54 | orionshock | http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitId |
| 09:05.03 | Adirelle|Work | ~wowwiki UnitId |
| 09:05.20 | Adirelle|Work | ~slap purl |
| 09:05.21 | purl | ACTION slaps purl, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 09:05.29 | orionshock | lol |
| 09:05.41 | Adirelle|Work | was wondering if it ignored me :p |
| 09:05.53 | charon | also, and excuse the 3-line spam |
| 09:05.54 | Adirelle|Work | so either it doesn't know wowwiki, either it is too long |
| 09:05.56 | charon | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.56 | charon | Path: Mangler |
| 09:05.56 | charon | URL: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Mangler |
| 09:06.02 | charon | does seem correct |
| 09:06.26 | orionshock | charon: Not Found |
| 09:06.27 | orionshock | The requested URL /wowace/trunk/Mangler was not found on this server. |
| 09:06.37 | charon | i'm trying to add that directory -.- |
| 09:06.38 | LI|FUnk | orionshock: thank you.. i´ll try to find another way .... hopefully |
| 09:06.49 | charon | it is scheduled for add in my working copy |
| 09:06.52 | charon | and i can't commit |
| 09:06.53 | orionshock | would you like me to? |
| 09:07.17 | charon | er... hmm |
| 09:07.21 | charon | not sure if it would help or hurt |
| 09:07.25 | orionshock | hehe.. |
| 09:07.52 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r529 10/trunk/WidgetWarlock/ (TextureTables.lua Summons.lua): WidgetWarlock - Fixed slider background, removed height arg from editbox... it doesn't change the background. |
| 09:08.22 | orionshock | i use tortoiseSVN |
| 09:08.26 | charon | see, i've been using SVN for a few years now, so actually it worries me more that i can't find/see the problem than that i can't commit the addon right now |
| 09:09.17 | charon | i'm wondering if the server refuses adding new directories under trunk/ and instead requires an import? |
| 09:09.53 | orionshock | have you tried adding the directory then commiting? |
| 09:10.05 | orionshock | and the wiki does say something about importing your addon |
| 09:11.12 | charon | which would plain out suck since i've set it all up, including properties, hoping i might commit it all in one go instead of piecing it together |
| 09:11.15 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r530 10/trunk/ControlFreak/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:11.17 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: ControlFreak |
| 09:11.19 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Addon loader support! |
| 09:11.21 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Added new WidgetWarlock |
| 09:11.23 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Some debug bits |
| 09:11.25 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Hopefully fixed issues with "controlled" detection, specifically when the focus is set AFTER the unit is controlled. |
| 09:12.04 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: - Fixed debuff name setting not actually getting used |
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| 09:12.50 | charon | meh |
| 09:13.24 | charon | i'll wait for kaelten, i can't sleep at night if i don't understand this problem ;) |
| 09:15.11 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r531 10/trunk/AddOnAddOff/ (3 files in 2 dirs): AddOnAddOff - Embed update |
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| 09:17.27 | Nickenyfiken | ControlFreak! |
| 09:17.44 | Nickenyfiken | AddOnAddOff? |
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| 09:18.32 | Nickenyfiken | Adirelle|Work: You know there is OffhandHasWeapon() too but i guess you don't need that. |
| 09:18.55 | Adirelle|Work | charon: I often create the directory before first import |
| 09:19.26 | Adirelle|Work | Nickenyfiken: the same code is used for both hand, so basically, I don't really need it |
| 09:19.50 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah what i thought |
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| 09:20.01 | Zariel | is addonloader an addon or something else |
| 09:20.09 | Nickenyfiken | It's a addon |
| 09:20.16 | Nickenyfiken | to load LoD addons |
| 09:20.38 | Zariel | where is it? |
| 09:20.58 | Zariel | nm |
| 09:20.59 | Nickenyfiken | Where? |
| 09:21.04 | Nickenyfiken | :-) |
| 09:21.55 | Zariel | never seen it on the svn ^^ |
| 09:23.16 | Nickenyfiken | IsLinuxClient() - Boolean - Returns true if WoW is being run on Linux |
| 09:23.19 | Nickenyfiken | Eh ok... |
| 09:23.48 | Adirelle|Work | Nickenyfiken: both WeaponBuff instances are defined around line 1351, each of them have a slot name, index in the GetWeaponEnchantInfo result, and a set of "valid" weapon types to buff |
| 09:24.40 | charon | Adirelle|Work: as in, you 'svn import' it, or you 'svn add' then commit it? |
| 09:25.19 | Adirelle|Work | charon: er... dunno exactly, I'm using the repo browser of TortoiseSVN |
| 09:25.35 | charon | it's rather weird anyways, afaict from the packet dump the server doesn't even care about what i'm trying to commit, it just flat out refuses the very first request that does not contain any information other than the "magic" number to MKACTIVITY |
| 09:26.54 | Nickenyfiken | I don't understand if you tried to make a dir or not. |
| 09:27.01 | Lukian | How do I have BulkMail not fill in last "To:" name? |
| 09:27.14 | Adirelle|Work | wasn't it a sandbox on the dev ? |
| 09:27.23 | Nickenyfiken | It was |
| 09:27.25 | Nickenyfiken | Not anymore |
| 09:27.44 | Nickenyfiken | But creating a dir in the trunk or branches won't destroy anything |
| 09:28.42 | charon | erm, i checked out trunk/ except i did it non-recursively, then i created the addon subdir with 'svn mkdir' and filled it with stuff |
| 09:29.09 | charon | so now i have a working copy with the entire addon dir scheduled to be added upon next commit |
| 09:29.30 | Nickenyfiken | Adirelle|Work: So you say the code in WeaponBuff class is not the problem, but something else? |
| 09:30.33 | Adirelle|Work | Nickenyfiken: kinda, the canBuff property (which is false when there is no weapon or something that can be buffed in the slot) wasn't used in "IsUsable" |
| 09:31.02 | Adirelle|Work | it was only used to refresh the list of available buff in options |
| 09:31.23 | Adirelle|Work | I added a check so that it is also tested when updating "expected buff" |
| 09:31.24 | Nickenyfiken | charon: right click any folder in Explorer and do TortoiseSVN -> Repo Browser. Then browse to http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/, right click the folder in the tree and do "Create Folder" |
| 09:32.30 | Adirelle|Work | damn, added a typo |
| 09:32.37 | charon | $ svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Mangler |
| 09:32.38 | charon | svn: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/b1bfd71f-153a-0410-b895-774b64932cc2': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 09:32.55 | charon | i'm currently on linux, no explorers around, thankfully |
| 09:33.05 | Nickenyfiken | ah ok sorry |
| 09:33.18 | charon | but that command should be the equivalent of what you described and... same problem. |
| 09:33.24 | Nickenyfiken | Adirelle|Work: ok |
| 09:33.25 | Adirelle|Work | wait, no, it's fine |
| 09:34.15 | Nickenyfiken | charon: I can create the folder for you and you can try a import |
| 09:34.22 | Adirelle|Work | charon: it definitively (sp?) looks like an authentication problem |
| 09:34.23 | Nickenyfiken | If you want |
| 09:34.32 | charon | well... i'll go with the kaelten option, but thanks |
| 09:34.39 | charon | i'd much rather understand the actual problem and have it fixed |
| 09:35.00 | orionshock | are you sure your authenticating? |
| 09:35.18 | charon | yes, i looked in the packet dump, it does send the username/password pair he gave me |
| 09:35.42 | orionshock | hum... |
| 09:35.51 | charon | besides, you have to auth to checkout from dev.wowace.com already |
| 09:36.49 | Adirelle|Work | right |
| 09:37.00 | charon | anyway, time to leave or i'll be late for lunch... thanks for the moral support and cya :) |
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| 09:47.09 | lolinternet | ~assault Antiarc |
| 09:47.10 | purl | ACTION hits Antiarc in the mouth with an iron bar |
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| 09:58.58 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48900 10Ace3/Ace3.toc: Ace3: reference the .xml files in the generic toc instead of the lua |
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| 10:01.09 | baer_ | moin |
| 10:02.02 | orionshock | whats the perm link for ora2? |
| 10:03.12 | ramoz | files.wowace.com/oRA2/oRA2.zip ? |
| 10:04.12 | [dRaCo] | pretty obviously, yes. |
| 10:04.21 | orionshock | "new" guild in kara and only 3 of us have ctra |
| 10:05.12 | [dRaCo] | tbh, you dont need ctra or ora2 for karazhan |
| 10:05.40 | Pheredhel | you dont need ctra or ora2 at all Oo |
| 10:05.40 | [dRaCo] | any decent unitframe addon displays the blizz MTs |
| 10:06.03 | ramoz | our raidleader gets mad if we dont have it |
| 10:06.18 | ramoz | checks for durability and cooldowns |
| 10:06.28 | orionshock | well it's the principal of the matter - if you can't follow directions to install one mod; can you follow directions in raid? |
| 10:06.44 | Pheredhel | cooldowns: you don't need ora2/ctra ;) |
| 10:06.57 | [dRaCo] | If you cant follow directions in a raid, you deserve to get kicked. |
| 10:07.01 | ramoz | Pheredhel? |
| 10:07.08 | Pheredhel | yes? |
| 10:07.14 | orionshock | that and tribute to TS/Cide |
| 10:07.40 | ramoz | to check for anhk, ss, di and cr? |
| 10:08.22 | Pheredhel | it's possible without forcing everybody to install an addon |
| 10:08.29 | [Ammo] | the blizzard MTs suck cock |
| 10:08.37 | [Ammo] | the order is different for members etc |
| 10:08.45 | [Ammo] | the blizzard readycehck has been bugged for ages |
| 10:08.50 | [Ammo] | sends results to the wrong person |
| 10:08.56 | [Ammo] | (quite often to) |
| 10:09.01 | Pheredhel | what is the problem with bliz mt? |
| 10:09.25 | Pheredhel | normaly i just sort them by name.. |
| 10:09.59 | ramoz | we have them by kill order |
| 10:10.20 | ramoz | always kill what the frst tank is targeting first |
| 10:10.23 | ramoz | and move down the list |
| 10:10.32 | [Ammo] | the problem is they are in a different order for members within the group |
| 10:12.00 | sag_ich_nicht | so you only know each other as "tank 1" "tank 2" "damage dealer 1" "damager dealer 2" "healer 1" etc. and not by name, ramoz? |
| 10:12.03 | Pheredhel | ok, normaly we don'T depend on such standards, the raidleader just says "kill that" |
| 10:12.21 | Pheredhel | or "kill khiras target" |
| 10:12.52 | [Ammo] | speeds things up if there's a set order |
| 10:13.09 | [Ammo] | and that can be achieved with various means |
| 10:13.17 | [Ammo] | MT order, RaidIcon order etc |
| 10:13.57 | Pheredhel | kill in order: khira, nick, fion , works for me, I dont like it when raidleaders enforce more addons then absolutely nesseccary |
| 10:13.58 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r48901 10/branch/ (8 files in 5 dirs): LibSignal: Conceptual signalling library *Dry Code* |
| 10:14.14 | Pheredhel | i.e. omen/ktm end |
| 10:14.22 | [Ammo] | oh boy, someone doesn't know hot to use SVN |
| 10:14.24 | Pheredhel | and we even have some wo omen/ktm |
| 10:14.25 | [Ammo] | /branch/ |
| 10:14.34 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:14.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart nayala |
| 10:14.38 | purl | whacks nayala with the cluebat |
| 10:14.44 | cryogen | lol |
| 10:14.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ...win. |
| 10:14.51 | Sarana | Oops... Had major typo there. *_* |
| 10:14.52 | sag_ich_nicht | purl, botsnack |
| 10:14.52 | purl | aw, gee, sag_ich_nicht |
| 10:15.19 | [Ammo] | the library is a mess as well |
| 10:15.59 | orionshock | hehe... so our pally puts Salvation on me... the Off Tank |
| 10:16.01 | orionshock | >.> |
| 10:16.14 | sag_ich_nicht | no, he doesn't |
| 10:16.29 | sag_ich_nicht | he puts it on the warriors so the dps warriors have it, tanks click it away. |
| 10:16.56 | sag_ich_nicht | unless you are like |
| 10:16.57 | sag_ich_nicht | in kara |
| 10:17.07 | orionshock | yep in kara |
| 10:17.09 | sag_ich_nicht | and you have like 2 warriors and both tank |
| 10:17.15 | sag_ich_nicht | paladin name |
| 10:17.17 | orionshock | and last week the guild spent 4hrs doing the first boss |
| 10:17.17 | sag_ich_nicht | and server |
| 10:17.28 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r48902 10/branch/: . major oops - sorry |
| 10:17.29 | [Ammo] | I dunno if nayala is on irc, but if you are, check out CallbackHandler-1.0 in the Ace3 alpha branch |
| 10:17.34 | [Ammo] | it does the job waaaay more efficient |
| 10:17.49 | [Ammo] | andmakes your signal lib obsolete :p |
| 10:18.09 | sag_ich_nicht | apparently not on IRC |
| 10:18.26 | Sarana | Taking a look now. LibSignal was something I wrote up a while ago just got around to uploading by accident actually. |
| 10:18.33 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 10:18.38 | [Ammo] | CallbackHandler is a lot better |
| 10:18.43 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock tell me the name of your paladin and your server :O |
| 10:18.46 | [Ammo] | no strmatching in critical paths etc |
| 10:19.01 | orionshock | hehe it was an accedent - our other druid is healing |
| 10:20.12 | Sarana | My base version (which was not the one I uploaded) doesn't use string matching either. |
| 10:21.20 | Sarana | I was exploring what it would take to add arbitrary hierarchal signals with the one that I accidently put out there. (Hence some comments in the code about *scary* stuff.) |
| 10:22.00 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:25.26 | Sarana | Wow... expect for that stuff and some naming differences the rest of the stuff seems pretty much the same. |
| 10:25.35 | [Ammo] | nono |
| 10:25.54 | [Ammo] | this lib embeds itself into an object |
| 10:25.57 | [Ammo] | and has a registry per object |
| 10:26.08 | [Ammo] | and does no checking in Fire |
| 10:26.19 | [Ammo] | all checking is done beforehand when a cllback is registered |
| 10:26.21 | nevcairiel | i agree that it could use some more docs |
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| 10:26.40 | [Ammo] | it's very different from yours |
| 10:26.42 | Sarana | Yes, wheras my registers them in a handle... which could be an embed. |
| 10:26.51 | Sarana | The checking in fire is for the hierarchy. |
| 10:27.54 | Sarana | The non-heirchy version boils done to for key,handle in pairs(signals_[signal]) callsignal end |
| 10:28.22 | [Ammo] | does your implementation separate signals |
| 10:28.34 | [Ammo] | as in in our case signals from one callback register are separate from another |
| 10:29.06 | [Ammo] | which means LibA can have a callback named "Poo" and LibB can have it as well |
| 10:29.07 | Sarana | Not currently though I was looking at that as another option. |
| 10:29.20 | [Ammo] | but when Poo is fired for A the ones that listen to the Poo from B are not triggered |
| 10:30.04 | Sarana | It was one of the reasons I was exploring hierarchies. The next approach I was going to take was to group the signals into arbitrary sets. |
| 10:30.29 | Sarana | But that would have been overkill. |
| 10:32.14 | [Ammo] | callbackhandler separates it entirely and allows for specific libs to have their own callbacks |
| 10:32.28 | Sarana | I'd also considered using arrays for the signal names which would have allowed most of the benefits of hierarchies with much less cost. |
| 10:32.30 | [Ammo] | it doesn't need to know about sets |
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| 10:33.21 | abbat_w | guys |
| 10:33.36 | Sarana | The problem with per-lib callbacks is it's harder to define a generic callback that could be used and triggered by different independent producers and consumers. |
| 10:33.46 | abbat_w | what is difference between CreateFrame("Frame", ..) and CreateFrame("Button", ...)? |
| 10:34.02 | nevcairiel | the one creates a button |
| 10:34.04 | nevcairiel | the other a frame |
| 10:34.12 | [Ammo] | Sarana: that's what a basic IPC lib should do, AceMessage for instance |
| 10:34.24 | [Ammo] | want to listen to the interaddon messages, register a message from that lib |
| 10:34.51 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, ok, can i create 'virtual' frame, just for anchoring and events but i won't show it on screen. it is possible? |
| 10:35.04 | [Ammo] | use"Frame" then abbat |
| 10:35.06 | nevcairiel | use a frame |
| 10:35.37 | abbat_w | Ammo, nevcairiel :-* |
| 10:35.39 | [Ammo] | in Ace3's case AceMessage is inside AceEvent since they shared too much code, but with the callbackhandler it could just as easily be split off |
| 10:37.41 | Zariel | can someone please tell me why http://penguinwithm4a1.org/core.lua does nothing at all =/ |
| 10:38.21 | nevcairiel | Zariel: post your .toc with that |
| 10:38.42 | Zariel | http://penguinwithm4a1.org/zoner.toc |
| 10:39.02 | [Ammo] | what doesn't work |
| 10:39.06 | Sarana | Aye that makes sense. Glad to see something like it actually since it can allow libraries to worry less about a lot of the higher level signalling. |
| 10:39.09 | Zariel | the addon loads but doesnt do anything |
| 10:39.25 | Zariel | ie, the chat command doesnt do anything, it doesnt self:Print() on enable |
| 10:39.56 | Zariel | self:Print("Current Zone: " ..major + ..minor) probally wont work but i realise that |
| 10:40.03 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:40.09 | nevcairiel | remove the + |
| 10:40.19 | nevcairiel | hrm, it looks correct tho |
| 10:40.22 | [Ammo] | probably errors on the + :p |
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| 10:40.30 | [Ammo] | -> syntax error -> bye bye addon |
| 10:40.40 | Zariel | ill comment it out and try again |
| 10:40.45 | nevcairiel | get buggrabber |
| 10:40.46 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 10:41.08 | Zariel | ill enable bugsac |
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| 10:41.30 | Zariel | thanks ammo# |
| 10:43.57 | Zariel | <3 dreamhost, ez svn install |
| 10:44.10 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamhost is a POS |
| 10:45.11 | Zariel | whys that |
| 10:45.45 | sag_ich_nicht | because it's slow, and unreliable. |
| 10:46.07 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamhost is like cheap webhosting with extras >< |
| 10:46.45 | Zariel | all i need :) |
| 10:47.12 | orionshock | well ... i guess i found out what happens when you pull auttamun w/ trash up |
| 10:48.12 | sag_ich_nicht | nothing, unless you're fucking retarded |
| 10:48.13 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 10:48.17 | sag_ich_nicht | stop raiding now orionshock |
| 10:48.22 | sag_ich_nicht | your raid is undergeared |
| 10:48.25 | sag_ich_nicht | HEAVILY |
| 10:48.30 | orionshock | new |
| 10:48.34 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 10:48.36 | orionshock | i prefer the term new |
| 10:48.38 | sag_ich_nicht | undergeared. |
| 10:48.41 | sag_ich_nicht | UNDERGEARED AND GIMP |
| 10:48.47 | orionshock | 2nd attempt at him |
| 10:49.07 | [dRaCo] | stop trolling. |
| 10:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | attuman is a trashmob, if you don't manage him first try in ~20 minutes after pulling the first trash you are GIMP and undegeared and need to GTFO karazhan and stock up on gear |
| 10:49.48 | sag_ich_nicht | farest you are going to get with that raid is opera, barely, after many wipes, and then you'll be stuck. |
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| 11:07.26 | Sarana | ammo: There is a bug in CallbackHadler-1.0.lua missing an end in the UnregisterAllName block Specifically going by indents missing one for if callbacks[self] |
| 11:08.09 | Sarana | Line 131/132 |
| 11:09.15 | [Ammo] | oh probably yeah |
| 11:09.32 | Sarana | And shouldn't select(#,...) be select('#',...)? |
| 11:10.08 | [Ammo] | probably |
| 11:10.10 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48903 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0-CallbackHandler/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: Ace3: CallbackHandler-1.0 - add missing end, thanks Sarena |
| 11:10.34 | Sarana | And that's Sarana ;P |
| 11:11.09 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48904 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0-CallbackHandler/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: Ace3: CallbackHandler-1.0 - proper select # syntax |
| 11:11.09 | [Ammo] | oh yeah |
| 11:11.32 | [Ammo] | we did not completely test the callbackhandler |
| 11:11.34 | Sarana | Anyways code looks pretty cool. If you wish I'll port my libSignal test cases to work with CallbackHandler-1.0. |
| 11:12.05 | [Ammo] | since it is still an experiment ;) |
| 11:12.14 | Sarana | Experiments are cool. |
| 11:12.26 | [Ammo] | although the consensus seems to be to use it |
| 11:12.47 | Demon | So I just saw an orc run by with the guild name <OnePtTwentyOneJigowatts> |
| 11:13.07 | Sarana | Considering I was independently working on something similar I think it's a good idea. |
| 11:15.32 | krka_ | Demon: cool guild name |
| 11:15.46 | Demon | Yeah :p |
| 11:16.03 | Corgan | gnight :D |
| 11:20.37 | Sarana | A couple things I noticed about CBH-1.0. (Though they may not be important -- Just design choices) 1. Consumers have no way to tell what events have been registered unless the registery is provided to them. There is no easy way to hook OnUsed and OnUnused |
| 11:21.00 | Lukian | sigh, Pitbull's resource usage is too high for me :( |
| 11:21.11 | Lukian | such a good set of unitframes too, oh well back to agUF |
| 11:21.23 | Health | Get a new PC! |
| 11:21.35 | Lukian | I still don't want my addons lagging my game. |
| 11:21.44 | sag_ich_nicht | try GCTweak |
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| 11:22.02 | Lukian | it's not garbage / memory usage. it's cpu usage. |
| 11:22.08 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl. |
| 11:22.13 | sag_ich_nicht | your CPU must suck |
| 11:22.14 | sag_ich_nicht | hard |
| 11:22.19 | sag_ich_nicht | (or you're a KTM user) |
| 11:22.25 | Lukian | nah, I use Omen |
| 11:22.45 | Lukian | and my cpu does suck, but I still don't see why my unitframes should be using more resources than the ace library itself. |
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| 11:24.37 | Saint-N | no luk you're right in assuming that pitbull is crap and you should use a better uf set ;) |
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| 11:24.47 | Saint-N | pay no attention to the morons... |
| 11:25.02 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 11:25.26 | Sarana | On thing I did with LibSignal was make the OnUsed and OnUnused type messages signals themselves. That way a larger project could easily have modules that turn on and off features based on the presences of registered signals. |
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| 11:29.42 | Adirelle|Work | they are so much simplier now... |
| 11:29.57 | JoshBorke | :-) |
| 11:29.58 | JoshBorke | that's the idea |
| 11:30.04 | JoshBorke | except AceDB, that thing is a beast |
| 11:31.05 | LaricWork | are the ace3 libs in any form of working state so one can 'test' them? |
| 11:31.16 | JoshBorke | nao |
| 11:31.56 | orionshock | JoshBorke: i wait for the day Ace3 comes far enough in Alpha to have something i use everyday written ontop of it :D |
| 11:32.01 | orionshock | im an eager beta tester :D |
| 11:32.48 | LaricWork | if i understand it correctly every lib in ace3 will be independant? |
| 11:33.36 | orionshock | LaricWork: as much as can be written independant |
| 11:33.46 | JoshBorke | LaricWork: that's the goal but some are dependent on others |
| 11:33.56 | JoshBorke | well, not so much others but on other libs |
| 11:34.02 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r48905 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Baggins.lua: Skinner: Updated Baggins skin to use the colour picker for the bank bags backdrop colour |
| 11:34.12 | JoshBorke | IE, AceEvent needs a CallbackHandler lib |
| 11:34.13 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.45 | LaricWork | and aceoo will be dead or? |
| 11:35.48 | JoshBorke | i don't know about AceOO, i think it might die |
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| 11:37.59 | Xinhuan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwC544Z37qo |
| 11:38.01 | Xinhuan | watch thus |
| 11:38.02 | JoshBorke | LaricWork: I think that modules will be treated the same as addons |
| 11:38.03 | Xinhuan | this* |
| 11:38.10 | Xinhuan | it has got like 600k views in 3 days |
| 11:38.15 | Fisker- | i'd rather troll you for bad grammar |
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| 11:38.47 | Sarana | CallbackHandler-1.0.lua line 61: method = method or name should probably be method = method or eventname |
| 11:40.21 | Sarana | Sorry if I'm looking too deep into it right now. Anyways got to get ready for work I'll try to write up some test cases this weekend. |
| 11:41.06 | JoshBorke | no, that's good, thanks |
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| 11:42.04 | Fisker- | oloolol |
| 11:42.08 | Fisker- | obvious troll is obvious |
| 11:42.34 | Fisker- | some newsreporter said that 9/11 was a good thing in denmark |
| 11:42.34 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:42.36 | CIA-22 | 03joshborke 07Alpha * r48906 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0-CallbackHandler/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: Ace3 - CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: bugfix submitted by Sarana |
| 11:44.55 | Sarana | If I do want to submit my testcases (doing stuff that can be run stand alone using lua similar to the ones I had included with LibSignal) any place I should put them in the svn?.../AceEvent-3.0-CallbackHandler/tests/test.lua? |
| 11:45.37 | JoshBorke | there's a test folder under Ace-3 |
| 11:45.45 | JoshBorke | er, Ace3/Alpha |
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| 11:46.17 | Sarana | Cool, I'll check it out. This was really my first look at Ace3. Had been working on my own LibSignal when Ammo pointed out the CallbackHandler. |
| 11:47.23 | JoshBorke | Sarana: what I would recommend is for you to add your tests to the jira issue. http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-33 |
| 11:47.41 | [Ammo] | just add an attachment to there |
| 11:47.48 | JoshBorke | exactly |
| 11:48.08 | Sarana | Cool thanks. |
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| 11:49.21 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r48907 10FuBar_TrainerFu/FuBar_TrainerFu.toc: |
| 11:49.21 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TrainerFu: Does not load trainer notes module anymore. If you want trainer notes use Cartographer_Trainers. |
| 11:49.21 | CIA-22 | If you still want to use the trainer notes uncomment the line in the TOC. |
| 11:50.20 | orionshock | nn all |
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| 11:54.11 | Adirelle|Work | [Ammo]: can't get the point of http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/branches/Ace3/Alpha/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua?r=48627#l272 |
| 11:54.50 | nevcairiel | it stores the blizzard name of the addon |
| 11:54.59 | nevcairiel | for later retrieval of metadata info |
| 11:55.20 | [Ammo] | what nevc says |
| 11:55.57 | [Ammo] | currently aceaddon-2.0 stores a fuckton of metadata info for the addon |
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| 11:56.19 | [Ammo] | we only provide one id to retrieve it later in ace3 |
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| 11:57.23 | Adirelle|Work | is there any chance the addon is initialized during another addon's ADDON_LOADED ? |
| 11:57.33 | [Ammo] | usually not |
| 11:57.40 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 11:57.49 | [Ammo] | but if you provide multiple aceaddon objects in one addon then they get init'd |
| 11:57.53 | [Ammo] | example SCM |
| 11:58.05 | Adirelle|Work | right... |
| 11:58.59 | Jazradel | is there any reason the ShapeshiftBarFrame doesn't respond to a SetPoint that PetBarFrame works with? |
| 11:59.17 | [Ammo] | and all those addon objects get the same basename |
| 11:59.25 | [Ammo] | since they all originate from that one addon |
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| 12:27.46 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r48908 10Elephant/Core-Structure.lua: |
| 12:27.46 | CIA-22 | Elephant: |
| 12:27.46 | CIA-22 | - You shouldn't be able to filter general chats anymore. |
| 12:27.46 | CIA-22 | - Two filters filtering the same channels will not create any conflict anymore. |
| 12:28.02 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r48909 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Button.lua: Bartender3: return out of the button update func if our action didnt chance |
| 12:28.22 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: wtf does that mean? |
| 12:28.38 | nevcairiel | *change |
| 12:28.45 | JoshBorke | you fail |
| 12:28.47 | JoshBorke | ~fail nevcairiel |
| 12:28.47 | purl | nevcairiel: Fail. |
| 12:29.01 | nevcairiel | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 12:29.01 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides JoshBorke with the sea of tranquility |
| 12:29.02 | Nickenyfiken | ~enslave purl |
| 12:29.02 | purl | ACTION grabs purl by the ears and shackles him in his dungeon next to a ravenous pug |
| 12:29.26 | JoshBorke | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 12:29.26 | purl | moos at nevcairiel |
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| 12:57.47 | Adirelle|Work | nevcairiel: do you think it would be hard to add an option to force the target of all actions of a bar in BT3 ? (in a local copy) |
| 12:58.03 | nevcairiel | not too hard |
| 12:58.13 | nevcairiel | you only have to set the unit |
| 12:58.21 | Adirelle|Work | it will work with actionid ? |
| 12:58.27 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 12:58.57 | Adirelle|Work | now I'm wondering if "none" is handled as in macros |
| 12:59.22 | Adirelle|Work | to force choosing of spell target, whatever is your current target |
| 12:59.33 | nevcairiel | i would hope so |
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| 13:06.29 | ag` | is there any addon that tells me the cpu usage of functions? |
| 13:06.40 | ag` | afaik something like that was added in 2.1 |
| 13:06.40 | evl | PerformanceFu |
| 13:06.58 | ag` | yeah, though it only shows for addons |
| 13:07.03 | [Ammo] | expo |
| 13:07.09 | [Ammo] | you can tie it to a namespace |
| 13:07.12 | [Ammo] | and profile that namespace |
| 13:07.20 | ag` | expo you say |
| 13:07.24 | ag` | I'll check it |
| 13:07.25 | [Ammo] | I do say |
| 13:09.11 | ag` | anyway to check which addons really uses what memory, if I use embeds -- or do I have to suck it down and disembed everything? |
| 13:09.54 | Hjalte | ag`, just have WAU reinstall everything with disembed libraries. It's not hard. |
| 13:10.03 | ag` | I use SVN |
| 13:10.11 | [Ammo] | suck it and disembed |
| 13:10.28 | [Ammo] | but it's mainly Ace2 growing like a bitch |
| 13:10.41 | ag` | what is? |
| 13:10.46 | ag` | my increases? |
| 13:10.54 | [Ammo] | acelib is |
| 13:11.30 | ag` | can't be what caused my recently growing kb/s |
| 13:12.14 | [Ammo] | some shit addon is probably causing it |
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| 13:12.25 | Lukian | Why is SwapMagic's cpu usage so high, when I haven't even used it in the wow client session? |
| 13:12.59 | charon | btw, if you remember how i complained about recount causing slowdowns every now and then |
| 13:13.11 | charon | seems they disappear if i turn off the data reaper |
| 13:13.20 | charon | i.e. the "keep timeline data for N minutes" stuff |
| 13:14.12 | Lukian | ah, i was testing recount before, yeah, it's resource usage was crazy |
| 13:14.26 | ag` | just trying to figure what shit addon |
| 13:16.03 | [Ammo] | disable half of your addons |
| 13:16.07 | [Ammo] | and then the other half |
| 13:16.17 | [Ammo] | and then disable half of the half etc |
| 13:16.28 | [Ammo] | or you could just use performanceFu |
| 13:16.30 | Lukian | or just use "Fubar Usage" |
| 13:16.31 | [Ammo] | and turn on CPU profiling in it |
| 13:17.36 | ag` | I did |
| 13:17.49 | ag` | but as I said that won't help until I disembed |
| 13:17.52 | charon | Lukian: i'm fine with the mem usage since the information you can get out of it is pretty much priceless, but cpu spikes during boss fights are a bit dangerous |
| 13:18.01 | [Ammo] | ag`: well which addon is showing the most of the CPU usage |
| 13:18.20 | [Ammo] | but yeah, disembed will help you there |
| 13:18.28 | charon | ag`: just tell WAU to disembed everything but ignore SVN repos... that way you get to keep your working copies yet use WAU for the rest |
| 13:18.34 | ag` | [Ammo]: FuBar by far, which means it's a lib |
| 13:18.43 | [Ammo] | install Ace2 standalone? |
| 13:18.46 | [Ammo] | and then test again |
| 13:18.53 | ag` | I'll go disembed my shit now |
| 13:18.55 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 13:19.31 | ag` | maybe even go to WAU for the addons I just use |
| 13:19.38 | ag` | and only keep SVN for the stuff I work on |
| 13:20.39 | Aileen_ | I will have to try the CPU profiling thing... for months now my memory grows and grows to like 80 MB until I manually force PerformanceFu to garbage collect |
| 13:21.05 | [Ammo] | ag`: that would work |
| 13:21.20 | [Ammo] | what guild are you in on kazzak nowadays ag |
| 13:21.49 | ag` | You said you needed a healing priest which I unfortunately isn't |
| 13:22.13 | ag` | so I joined impulse |
| 13:23.03 | [Ammo] | hehe, well we could have used a shadowpriest as well |
| 13:23.07 | [Ammo] | although spots filled now |
| 13:23.13 | ag` | oh well |
| 13:23.19 | ag` | I did get a good deal with them |
| 13:23.22 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 13:23.30 | ag` | my brother used to raid a lot etc, but took a break |
| 13:23.43 | ag` | then he came back now, but he was totally green for BC |
| 13:24.10 | ag` | so I had them take him too, he want from ding 70 to full epic in two weeks time in kara |
| 13:24.22 | [Ammo] | nice |
| 13:24.30 | [Ammo] | what is impulse working on now progress wise |
| 13:24.44 | ag` | we're 3 bosses behind you I think |
| 13:24.50 | ag` | if you didn't kill kael yet |
| 13:25.07 | [Ammo] | kael is a biatch |
| 13:25.16 | [Ammo] | although we did have good progress last night |
| 13:25.25 | ag` | cool |
| 13:25.26 | [Ammo] | all weapons but the Axe down before P3 |
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| 13:25.41 | [Ammo] | which is pretty damn nice dps |
| 13:25.59 | ag` | kael is like the showstopper for all guilds |
| 13:26.10 | [Ammo] | yeah it's a major cockblock |
| 13:26.11 | evl | well he's hard, micromanagement hell |
| 13:26.12 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r48910 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Button.lua: Bartender3: improved out of range indicator handling when set to hotkey mode and no actual hotkeys assigned |
| 13:26.19 | evl | on vashj 2-3 can die and it's still a kill that's not possible on kael |
| 13:26.29 | [Ammo] | at least not untill p4-5 |
| 13:26.31 | nevcairiel | depends when they die actually |
| 13:26.33 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 13:26.51 | ag` | we're on vashj, got her to 1% |
| 13:26.53 | evl | from what I've experienced having anyone dead before phase 4 is very bad |
| 13:26.56 | ag` | that's the best try we had |
| 13:27.10 | evl | ag`: hunters and 3+ rogues is the key to finishing her off |
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| 13:27.19 | [Ammo] | we use hunters killing bats |
| 13:27.28 | ag` | hmm |
| 13:27.32 | nevcairiel | we have lock's dot the bats |
| 13:27.35 | ag` | I don't think we're killing bats |
| 13:27.36 | nevcairiel | and hunters helping a bit |
| 13:27.40 | ag` | but I'm not sure |
| 13:27.41 | evl | oooh, you need to kill the bats |
| 13:27.46 | evl | makes sure melee can stay and hammer on the boss |
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| 13:27.50 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:27.53 | evl | comfortably avoiding the enrage |
| 13:27.55 | ramoz | [Ammo]: why not keep the sheild up in p3 and tank it together with the engineer dude? |
| 13:28.06 | ramoz | the axe does a nasty cleave.. |
| 13:28.06 | [Ammo] | ramoz: because it can die before p3? |
| 13:28.15 | [Ammo] | the axe would have died as well |
| 13:28.19 | ramoz | ok |
| 13:28.19 | [Ammo] | it was positioned 2 yards wrong |
| 13:28.22 | evl | I've seen a lot of guilds tank axe + sanguinar on the same tank |
| 13:28.27 | [Ammo] | hence not hit by the full AoE |
| 13:28.33 | evl | we had massive aoe :D |
| 13:28.38 | evl | 3 warlocks + 4 mages? |
| 13:28.38 | [Ammo] | yeah it was imba |
| 13:28.46 | [Ammo] | 4 locks 3 mages |
| 13:28.47 | ramoz | oh you aoe |
| 13:28.51 | [Ammo] | yarr |
| 13:28.56 | ramoz | that didnt work out for us |
| 13:29.01 | nevcairiel | works fine for us too |
| 13:29.11 | evl | less micro with aoe |
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| 13:29.16 | ramoz | true |
| 13:29.17 | evl | and more reliable entry into p4 |
| 13:29.24 | [Ammo] | did a lot of theorycrafting on the aoe / single target sequence for locks |
| 13:29.33 | [Ammo] | which resulted in massive damage |
| 13:29.38 | [Ammo] | p3 evl |
| 13:29.40 | ramoz | did you count in the mana issues? |
| 13:29.47 | [Ammo] | warlocks? mana issues? |
| 13:29.47 | evl | helps if mages kick off the seeds with AE too |
| 13:29.48 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
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| 13:29.59 | [Ammo] | if your warlocks have manaissues they need to l2p |
| 13:30.04 | evl | mages only boost the damage slightly by ticking of the seeds |
| 13:30.06 | ramoz | im a warlock |
| 13:30.14 | Punkie` | i take it you talk to yourself a lot then ammo :D |
| 13:30.14 | ramoz | and you'd end up spending a lot of time on lifetapping |
| 13:30.20 | [Ammo] | aggro issues is more like it :) |
| 13:30.24 | ramoz | since seed of corruption costs 800 mana |
| 13:30.37 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: had pretty lenghy discussions with gurth on MSN |
| 13:30.47 | Punkie` | about your l2p issues? :o |
| 13:30.50 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 13:30.57 | [Ammo] | I don't have l2p issues |
| 13:31.12 | Punkie` | stage 1: denial |
| 13:31.19 | [Ammo] | pff |
| 13:31.20 | [Ammo] | DIAF |
| 13:31.31 | [Ammo] | emo boy! |
| 13:32.03 | Punkie` | no u! |
| 13:32.11 | ag` | hmm |
| 13:32.25 | ag` | I don't like how addons spam all thier modules into the addon dir |
| 13:32.27 | [Ammo] | rogue and mage classleaders, the new druid emo |
| 13:32.33 | ramoz | we have the casters kill staff, bow and then mace (and swords if they're still up), rogues + warrios flurry/cleave the mace daggers and swords, then we hit p4 with the shield up, warlocks and spriests dot it up and runs over to the kiting dude while the rogues kill sword and engineer |
| 13:32.39 | ag` | can't I disable addon on-install scripts |
| 13:32.48 | ramoz | = win |
| 13:32.54 | [Ammo] | add nounpack or something to the folders |
| 13:33.00 | [Ammo] | that's what should keep WAU from unpacking |
| 13:33.11 | ag` | where do I add that |
| 13:33.15 | [Ammo] | no clue |
| 13:33.17 | [Ammo] | I don't use WAU |
| 13:33.28 | art3mis | ammo uses the force |
| 13:33.35 | art3mis | i saw him do it once |
| 13:33.43 | ag` | I'm getting close to not wanting to either |
| 13:33.51 | art3mis | he wields his schwartz like a master |
| 13:33.54 | ag` | but then I'd have to resolve dependencies myself |
| 13:33.57 | ag` | which sucks too |
| 13:34.05 | art3mis | what version are you running? |
| 13:34.08 | [Ammo] | ag`: there is problably a help file somewhere |
| 13:34.21 | [Ammo] | and the WAU2 beta might even have a proper toggle |
| 13:34.27 | _dreamss | any chance u guys know the name of the leg weapons that drop off illidans councin? |
| 13:34.31 | art3mis | java wau makes baby jesus cry |
| 13:35.02 | art3mis | aq: i think its wob that has a python updater |
| 13:35.06 | art3mis | you should get that |
| 13:35.10 | art3mis | its gooder |
| 13:36.12 | ag` | seems like I would have to create a billion .nounpack dirs |
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| 13:37.19 | art3mis | tekk == poop! |
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| 13:37.31 | ag` | I'm about to kill myself |
| 13:37.37 | art3mis | can i have yer stuff? |
| 13:37.37 | ag` | embeds suck, and disembed sucks |
| 13:37.39 | Pkekyo|zZz | good luck |
| 13:37.55 | art3mis | i guess that was too much for tekk to handle |
| 13:39.16 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r48911 10Bartender3/Bartender3/CHANGELOG.txt: Bartender3: add changelog.txt |
| 13:40.11 | ag` | I bet my wow is going to explode now |
| 13:40.33 | [Ammo] | just live with the unpacking ag` |
| 13:40.36 | [Ammo] | it's no real big deal |
| 13:40.43 | [Ammo] | and for bigwigs it makes it more memory efficient ;) |
| 13:40.49 | Kain_ | so is 2.2 coming out next week (probably the millionth person to ask) |
| 13:40.57 | ag` | but it's spam [Ammo] :( |
| 13:40.57 | nevcairiel | nobody knows |
| 13:41.02 | [Ammo] | ag`: it's not spam |
| 13:41.04 | Funkeh` | god knows |
| 13:41.11 | Funkeh` | she knows everything |
| 13:41.11 | nevcairiel | Kain_: i wouldnt bet on it |
| 13:41.16 | [Ammo] | ag`: just put on teh goggles and ignore :) |
| 13:41.49 | blay | is 1.9.44.654 the most current ver of wau? |
| 13:42.00 | Pkekyo|zZz | sweet! new shiipment came in today! |
| 13:42.01 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 13:42.15 | blay | ty |
| 13:42.16 | Aileen | I sure hope 2.2 is coming out next week... I want my new and improved aspect! ;) |
| 13:42.32 | nevcairiel | and i want finally merge the 2.2 branch into trunk |
| 13:42.38 | nevcairiel | but i still wont put money on it |
| 13:42.45 | sb | Funkeh`: she? :p |
| 13:42.48 | CIA-22 | 03recluse * r48912 10TextSpy/code/TextSpy.lua: |
| 13:42.48 | CIA-22 | TextSpy: |
| 13:42.48 | CIA-22 | - Combat log parse fix |
| 13:42.48 | MoonWolf | 2.2 is like patch 1.10 for diablo |
| 13:42.52 | MoonWolf | ITS NEVER COMING |
| 13:42.59 | nevcairiel | but eventually, it comes |
| 13:43.15 | Funkeh` | sb: If I'm going to pray to a myth no one ahs seen before you are damn right shes gonna be female and hot |
| 13:43.42 | evl | They were in over their heads with the voicecom thingy |
| 13:43.42 | sb | hm good point ;p |
| 13:43.59 | evl | If that would have come as a separate patch 2.2.1 it would have been a bit more welcome |
| 13:44.21 | Funkeh` | The more they push back 2.2 the later you will get 3.0 |
| 13:44.51 | evl | Well I think they reached the point where 2.2 has to be a quality patch without any big issues or they will get flogged. |
| 13:45.02 | ag` | but Ammo |
| 13:45.13 | ag` | if you like disembeds but do not use WAU |
| 13:45.15 | ag` | then what do you do |
| 13:45.36 | nevcairiel | i dont think that the release date of 3.0 depends on 2.2 now |
| 13:45.44 | Hjalte | ag`, what about using WAU once to disembed and then go back to whatever you were using? |
| 13:46.00 | ag` | Hjalte: yes I'll probably do that |
| 13:46.02 | ag` | not sure |
| 13:46.17 | ag` | hmm, it's Ace2 now after disembedding it |
| 13:46.40 | ag` | huge like zomg increase rate |
| 13:46.51 | nevcairiel | addons blame ace2 all the time |
| 13:48.29 | ag` | i guess |
| 13:48.40 | [Ammo] | ag`: I use svn without externals |
| 13:48.57 | nevcairiel | cleanest way ever (tm) |
| 13:48.57 | ag` | where you resolve your own deps |
| 13:49.01 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:49.02 | evl | WUA without externals is the pwn |
| 13:49.13 | [Ammo] | I resolve my own deps indeed |
| 13:49.15 | evl | svn will cause much higher loading times. |
| 13:49.15 | [Ammo] | which ain't hard |
| 13:49.29 | nevcairiel | i prefer svn, so i can actually edit there, and upload |
| 13:49.29 | evl | or rather, depending on disk speed. |
| 13:49.35 | [Ammo] | I will not touch WAU, not even witha 10 foot pole |
| 13:49.50 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r48913 10JasonTag/JasonTag.lua: JasonTag: Bar should now only show when you're leader |
| 13:50.15 | art3mis | http://www.dbatley.plus.com/pages/lynx_blocked.html |
| 13:51.24 | art3mis | http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/how_to_hide_beer_in_office.php |
| 13:52.02 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r48914 10JasonTag/JasonTag.lua: JasonTag: Trying to get my Revision tag to work ... |
| 13:52.12 | Fisker- | There's still the item bug in macros right? |
| 13:52.20 | Fisker- | that it won't show cooldown and tooltip on trinket macros |
| 13:52.51 | Punkie` | only if you are a fanboi |
| 13:53.16 | nevcairiel | which he is |
| 13:53.43 | Chompers | Fisker- got punkiowned |
| 13:53.44 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 13:53.46 | Fisker- | no |
| 13:53.48 | Fisker- | u |
| 13:53.52 | Chompers | NOU |
| 13:53.55 | Fisker- | also stop being in our guild Punkie` |
| 13:54.13 | Punkie` | i wouldnt be in your guild cause it sucks :o |
| 13:54.17 | Punkie` | the other punkie is an imposter |
| 13:54.19 | art3mis | i finally figured out what fisker reminds me of |
| 13:54.27 | Fisker- | ok Punkie` :( |
| 13:54.38 | Fisker- | and my guild doesn't suck |
| 13:54.39 | art3mis | ya know that feeling you get right before your ears pop and you wish it would just go away? |
| 13:54.40 | Chompers | trinket macros work fine on the ptr |
| 13:54.45 | Fisker- | we just did fallcleaning |
| 13:54.46 | Chompers | i guess they fixed them in 2.2 |
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| 13:55.15 | nevcairiel | they recoded the full macro system in 2.2 |
| 13:55.51 | art3mis | will it allow me to stack commands so i can multi cast with a single press? |
| 13:56.09 | art3mis | cuz i need to eat pizza pockets during raids and it's just too much of a bother |
| 13:56.10 | Fisker- | you can if it's instant? |
| 13:56.13 | Hjalte | Sometimes when i summon a demon, they come with soul link active already - How come? |
| 13:56.17 | Stan__ | which mail mods do you use to send massmail and for the inbox? |
| 13:56.17 | Fisker- | without gcd of course |
| 13:56.29 | Chompers | fall cleaning? |
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| 13:56.35 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 13:56.38 | Fisker- | it wasn't spring |
| 13:56.40 | Fisker- | :D |
| 13:57.09 | Chompers | aaah, so you sent your furry suits to be cleaned eh Fisker-? |
| 13:57.13 | Fisker- | some guys were qq'ing about us telling a guild to basically fuck off with trying to tell us how to run our guild |
| 13:57.13 | art3mis | Hjalte: was an old "bug" |
| 13:57.18 | Fisker- | indeed Chompers |
| 13:57.30 | Chompers | espically the one with' yiff' holes :O |
| 13:57.35 | Hjalte | art3mis, not that i mind, i sometimes forget to cast it >.< |
| 13:57.37 | art3mis | something about having the talent on a pet dismissing it and respecing or something |
| 13:57.37 | Fisker- | so some of the qq'ers left yesterday |
| 13:57.44 | Fisker- | which is nice |
| 13:57.53 | art3mis | there was another cause but ic ant rememebr off the top of my head |
| 13:58.23 | art3mis | some wierd succ sac bug |
| 13:58.35 | art3mis | like you sac yer succ then a priest resses it |
| 13:58.48 | art3mis | and if you dismiss itll just have it til it dies automagically |
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| 14:01.07 | Fisker- | btw we almost got morogrim Punkie` |
| 14:01.09 | Fisker- | which is also nice |
| 14:01.19 | Fisker- | because we tried him for like 2 hours now |
| 14:01.30 | Fisker- | and in my previous guild we had like atleast 3 or 4 full raids for it |
| 14:01.30 | Fisker- | >D |
| 14:01.42 | Chompers | :O |
| 14:01.51 | Chompers | i want to try him soon, i don't like al'ar |
| 14:02.04 | Fisker- | morogrim is a bitch as well :P |
| 14:02.19 | Fisker- | really insane healing requirements imo |
| 14:02.27 | Fisker- | the first fight where i have to remember to take my mana potions |
| 14:02.47 | Chompers | being a paladin sucks at times |
| 14:02.53 | Chompers | i have to being mana pots now :< |
| 14:02.59 | Chompers | *bring |
| 14:03.41 | Fisker- | well i still have like 200 mana pots |
| 14:04.23 | Chompers | :O |
| 14:04.45 | charon | i hate morogrim... he hit our MT for 17k in 2sec, 1 crush 2 hits |
| 14:04.56 | Fisker- | omg crush lolol l2p |
| 14:05.05 | Fisker- | but yeah it's annoying when that happens |
| 14:05.15 | Fisker- | but what's more annoying is the damned watery graves |
| 14:05.16 | Fisker- | i hate them |
| 14:05.21 | Nickenyfiken | My level 50 warlock with alchemy got two explorations when skilling from 300 to 350 ^^ |
| 14:05.32 | Fisker- | one round our murloc tank might get graved while we're on the murlocs |
| 14:05.49 | Fisker- | then another round 2 of our tankhealers get in it |
| 14:05.56 | Fisker- | which of course pretty much causes him to die |
| 14:06.11 | Chompers | ever have those nights when nothing goes right Fisker? |
| 14:06.29 | Fisker- | only to server lag mostly |
| 14:06.39 | Fisker- | had one a couple of weeks ago with Magtheridon and Void Reaver |
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| 14:07.12 | Fisker- | and we had to give up on magtheridon because some people were lagging |
| 14:07.24 | Fisker- | then we went to void reaver and the maintanks started lagging |
| 14:07.28 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48915 10Ace3/docs/ (. AceAddon-3.0.txt): Ace3: AceAddon-3.0 - added simple API documentation for AceAddon-3.0 in a docs/ folder |
| 14:07.34 | Chompers | we couldn't kill mag because something happened every attempt |
| 14:07.41 | Chompers | it sucks :< |
| 14:07.52 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:09.38 | evl | SCORE! |
| 14:09.44 | evl | I won the iPhone |
| 14:09.55 | evl | 500$ incl. unlock, 8gb version |
| 14:10.06 | Nickenyfiken | How? Where? |
| 14:10.38 | evl | ebay ofc :P |
| 14:10.56 | [Ammo] | not really winning since you PAY for it |
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| 14:11.15 | evl | Well it had 113 bids :P |
| 14:11.23 | evl | so there was some serious refresh button going on |
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| 14:11.37 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 14:11.56 | sb | mh.. iphone |
| 14:12.02 | FrostByghte | I won some paper towels at wal-mart the other day |
| 14:12.03 | [Ammo] | just don't take it on a cruise and turn it off |
| 14:12.06 | [Ammo] | because 'off' is not off |
| 14:12.14 | sb | i think its better to wait another ~1/2 year :p |
| 14:12.17 | [Ammo] | ;) |
| 14:12.38 | [Ammo] | for convenience it still retrieves your email even in it's off state |
| 14:12.39 | sb | off is not off? :o |
| 14:12.43 | sb | oh |
| 14:12.45 | [Ammo] | this guy had a 4800$ bill |
| 14:12.56 | [Ammo] | went from america to a mediteranian cruise |
| 14:13.00 | [Ammo] | with it turned 'off' |
| 14:13.23 | Josh_Borke | he didn't turn it off |
| 14:13.25 | Josh_Borke | he put it to sleep |
| 14:13.28 | [Ammo] | yeah probably |
| 14:13.37 | [Ammo] | kinda painful |
| 14:13.47 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r48916 10Cosplay/Cosplay.lua: |
| 14:13.47 | CIA-22 | Cosplay: |
| 14:13.47 | CIA-22 | - Set the buttons on the dressup frame to a HIGH strata. |
| 14:13.48 | sb | well but the battery lasts for 4800$? |
| 14:13.52 | sb | dont think so :p |
| 14:14.08 | sb | with active internet connection it should be really 'off' after some hours ;) |
| 14:19.02 | ag` | [Ammo]: do you pvp? |
| 14:19.31 | Fisker- | TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL |
| 14:19.32 | Fisker- | [Ammo] |
| 14:19.35 | Fisker- | i made reservations |
| 14:19.45 | Hjalte | Adirelle|Wor1, ping |
| 14:19.58 | Chompers | where's my seat? |
| 14:20.02 | abbat_w | $500 for iPhone? |
| 14:20.05 | Fisker- | you weren't invited |
| 14:20.05 | abbat_w | pff... |
| 14:20.16 | Chompers | you make me sad |
| 14:20.22 | [Ammo] | ag`: nope |
| 14:20.24 | [Ammo] | I just gank at times |
| 14:20.32 | abbat_w | i think this iPhone was carder from e-shop, unlocked by hackers and sold to evl |
| 14:20.45 | Fisker- | the ipod touch, as well as the iphone is totally retarded btw |
| 14:21.04 | abbat_w | was carded |
| 14:21.07 | Fisker- | are* |
| 14:21.20 | Aileen | I love my iPhone :) |
| 14:21.30 | Fisker- | you shouldn't |
| 14:21.40 | abbat_w | Aileen, can you show some pics of you phone? |
| 14:21.52 | abbat_w | It works with all cellular providers? |
| 14:21.56 | Fisker- | it sucks, it's overpriced, and it's a garbage bag occupier |
| 14:21.58 | abbat_w | Or something special needed? |
| 14:22.02 | Fisker- | you see what i did? |
| 14:22.03 | Aileen | They look like the ones on Apple's website ;) |
| 14:22.10 | Aileen | s/They/It |
| 14:22.21 | abbat_w | Fisker-, this is because you don't have iphone ;) |
| 14:22.27 | Fisker- | i don't want it |
| 14:22.34 | abbat_w | no, you want |
| 14:22.44 | abbat_w | but you want $500 more then iphone ;) |
| 14:22.49 | Chompers | do not want |
| 14:22.49 | Fisker- | i'd rather have a better phone at half the price |
| 14:23.04 | Fisker- | and if we want to be realistic i might as well say 1/10th of the price |
| 14:23.04 | Chompers | what's so amazing about it? |
| 14:23.07 | abbat_w | <- nokia 6100 ;) |
| 14:23.07 | ag` | if microsoft made it you would go get it at once Fisker- |
| 14:23.11 | Fisker- | no ag` |
| 14:23.21 | ag` | yes you would, you flaming fanboi you |
| 14:23.26 | Fisker- | no |
| 14:23.30 | Aileen | It only works with AT&T officially. There is a hack that will unlock it so that you could use it on T-Mobile. |
| 14:23.35 | Fisker- | already had a windows smartphone and i hate them |
| 14:23.48 | Fisker- | dunno about the new smartphone versions though |
| 14:23.55 | Fisker- | depends on the price of course |
| 14:23.57 | Aileen | (or other providers out of the US I guess... I have not been following it much, I have AT&T) |
| 14:24.13 | abbat_w | ergh... i hate all new communications gadgets. like cellular, ice, irc etc |
| 14:24.27 | abbat_w | too many ppl bother me using this ;( |
| 14:24.46 | Fisker- | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone <-this review is great btw |
| 14:25.07 | abbat_w | and now i can't turn off cellular and say 'huh? you call me? sorry, i was at outdoor' |
| 14:25.40 | Fisker- | http://www.esato.com/phones/index.php/phone=295,cp=288 |
| 14:25.40 | Fisker- | won |
| 14:26.27 | Fisker- | also i won't have to win the national lottery to afford a new battery |
| 14:26.40 | ag` | Fisker-: negative, N70 sucks |
| 14:26.51 | Fisker- | but it's most likely better than the iphone |
| 14:26.55 | Adirelle|Wor1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.57 | clad|sleep | Stan__: |
| 14:27.02 | Fisker- | and that's not the phone i'd like anyways |
| 14:27.03 | clad|sleep | Stan__: thanks, I mean |
| 14:27.06 | Fisker- | you can see my esato.com link |
| 14:27.13 | Stan__ | clad|sleep: for the shot? yesterday? |
| 14:27.16 | Stan__ | no problem :) |
| 14:27.45 | Fisker- | does the ipod even play mp3's btw? |
| 14:27.48 | Hjalte | Adirelle|Work, is it possible to insert a check for whether or not you have your pet out in the Soul Link rebuff check at some point? It's rather annoying being bugged about it while mounted etc :) |
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| 14:28.21 | Aileen | sure it does |
| 14:28.53 | Fisker- | just remember hearing something about it wouldn't want mp3's because of all their aac and drm shit |
| 14:29.21 | Aileen | that's just stuff bought out of iTMS |
| 14:29.26 | ag` | sure, because Apple would do that all of a sudden, when they started selling music WITHOUT drm |
| 14:29.44 | Aileen | and now they sell versions without DRM too in iTMS |
| 14:30.39 | Adirelle|Work | Hjalte: I'll take a look |
| 14:30.45 | Fisker- | i asked for a question ag` i didn't state it as a fact |
| 14:31.00 | Fisker- | zealots are easy to spot btw |
| 14:31.10 | ag` | well I did answer the question |
| 14:31.14 | ag` | in an arsy way |
| 14:31.15 | Stan__ | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/128297742742657500afk.jpg |
| 14:31.47 | Chompers | default ui, luls |
| 14:32.17 | sb | ahhhh |
| 14:32.18 | sb | new SGA |
| 14:32.19 | sb | <3 |
| 14:32.40 | Fisker- | not until 2 weeks |
| 14:32.43 | Chompers | oh my |
| 14:32.44 | Chompers | 4x01 |
| 14:32.46 | Chompers | and 4x02 |
| 14:32.52 | sb | yes :o |
| 14:32.55 | Lukian | Chompers, and low game res :( |
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| 14:33.32 | Fisker- | NO Chompers |
| 14:33.35 | Fisker- | it's not out |
| 14:33.38 | Fisker- | AAAAAAAAAAARGH |
| 14:33.40 | Chompers | :< |
| 14:33.51 | sb | hmmm? :/ |
| 14:33.54 | Fisker- | it is? |
| 14:33.55 | Chompers | it'll do till i can find mad men |
| 14:34.44 | sb | hmmm strange stuff |
| 14:34.56 | sb | 4-1, "402", Adrift (2) |
| 14:35.10 | sb | 4-4, "401", Doppelganger |
| 14:35.11 | sb | huh? :o |
| 14:35.18 | Lukian | haha |
| 14:35.20 | sb | (see http://epguides.com/StargateAtlantis/) |
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| 14:35.47 | Fisker- | yeah in 2 weeks? |
| 14:35.58 | ag` | give prison break :( |
| 14:36.06 | nevcairiel | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 14:36.06 | purl | slaps Josh_Borke around with a large trout |
| 14:36.10 | Chompers | give bsg |
| 14:36.15 | Josh_Borke | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 14:36.15 | purl | chops nevcairiel in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 14:36.21 | Chompers | sci-fi better not turn s4 into two seasons |
| 14:36.39 | Chompers | i'm not waiting another 9 months to see the end of the season |
| 14:36.55 | Lukian | hmm. Should I believe FuBar Usage? It's giving me some unrealistic figures sometimes. |
| 14:36.56 | Fisker- | they always do that? |
| 14:37.05 | Fisker- | you know, it's called a "cliffhanger" |
| 14:37.10 | Chompers | they want to split it up |
| 14:37.20 | Fisker- | just get the canadian releases when they stop sending it in the US |
| 14:37.24 | Chompers | so they can spread it out over 2 years instead of 1 |
| 14:37.30 | Fisker- | oh |
| 14:37.34 | Fisker- | they shouldn't |
| 14:37.35 | Chompers | same content |
| 14:37.37 | Fisker- | or i will rape them |
| 14:37.51 | Fisker- | besides i doubt that they will do that in canada or in the uk anyways |
| 14:37.52 | Chompers | and i shall skullfuck them |
| 14:38.06 | Fisker- | anyways sb you say it's out or are you shitting with me? |
| 14:38.21 | Fisker- | because i'm gonna tear the universe a new black hole if i don't know soon :O |
| 14:38.41 | Srosh | But not around this solar system please. |
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| 14:38.53 | Fisker- | sorry, don't have space travel capabillities |
| 14:39.03 | Srosh | Great. |
| 14:39.09 | Chompers | i do, get into my black van Fisker- |
| 14:39.14 | Chompers | it has candy in the back |
| 14:39.24 | Fisker- | sounds legit to me |
| 14:39.35 | Chompers | +hdtv eps of sga all the way to episode 12 |
| 14:40.17 | sb | oh |
| 14:40.20 | sb | wait ;p |
| 14:40.37 | sb | <3 identify :/ |
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| 14:42.09 | Firedancer | #dongle |
| 14:42.15 | Firedancer | wopps :P |
| 14:42.26 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r48917 10Talented_Data/scripts/convert-js.lua: Talented_Data: (tools) optimisations to the generated data files. Do not regenerate until 2.2 hit live realms. |
| 14:43.38 | Lukian | Is CPU profiling accurate? |
| 14:45.05 | cladhaire | depends on what you want to measure. |
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| 14:45.50 | Lukian | I'm thinking some of the libs bundled with AltClick... and SwapMagic are using excessive cpu |
| 14:46.03 | Lukian | ie. libs not included in ace2, because i have it standalone |
| 14:48.55 | kenlyric | anyone know if there's a collection of cart_quests and cart_questobjectives out there? |
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| 14:51.07 | Hjalte | kenlyric, there is. |
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| 14:55.34 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r48918 10ItemValue_DrDamage/ (5 files): |
| 14:55.34 | CIA-22 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 14:55.34 | CIA-22 | - Split into melee and caster set |
| 14:55.35 | CIA-22 | - Localization possible now |
| 14:55.35 | CIA-22 | - Expect some errors with the melee module |
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| 15:05.48 | Lukian | deleted the embedded libraries fixed the CPU usage. |
| 15:06.37 | Lukian | with ace2 standalone can I delete all the libs directories in addon folders? (assuming I download extra stuff like Gratuity and Babble as needed) |
| 15:08.09 | Xinhuan | Lukian: correct |
| 15:08.25 | Xinhuan | doing that doesn't reduce CPU usage though, it only reduces loading time |
| 15:08.41 | Lukian | there were some buggy libraries bundled with a couple addons :/ |
| 15:08.53 | Lukian | so using the standalone ones seems to have fixed it |
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| 15:09.13 | Lukian | Is there any downside to using all standalone libs? |
| 15:13.18 | kenlyric | FuBar_TrainerFu-0.2\TrainerFu_VisitTrainer.lua:125: AceModuleCore-2.0: Cannot find module "MapNotes" |
| 15:13.29 | Josh_Borke | Lukian: harder to manage |
| 15:14.22 | Adirelle|Work | Lukian: gazillions of folder in AddOns |
| 15:14.28 | Adirelle|Work | s/der/derS/ |
| 15:14.39 | kenlyric | 2000 fewere files |
| 15:15.16 | Lukian | why not prefix all libs with Lib then? :) |
| 15:15.50 | RogueShadow | That's a good idea. Someobody is actually doing that. |
| 15:17.05 | Adirelle|Work | AFAIK, actually they are new version of the libraries, the old ones retain their name |
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| 15:27.56 | Xinhuan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwC544Z37qo |
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| 15:33.28 | charon | Xinhuan: what kind of cheater tetris has a "hold" space where you can conveniently tuck away those 4x1? ;P |
| 15:33.59 | Xinhuan | lool |
| 15:34.06 | Xinhuan | well 70k views in 6 days |
| 15:34.13 | Xinhuan | and check a few pages of comments on the TGM series |
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| 15:38.42 | charon | heh i only just got to the invisible part... awesome |
| 15:39.26 | kenlyric | he is incredibly fortunate with 4x1 |
| 15:39.52 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r48919 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 15:39.52 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 15:39.52 | CIA-22 | - Melee calculation function also returns the table with all the calculation data (for compatibility with other addons) |
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| 15:44.11 | Adirelle|Work | heh, the invisible part is ... interesting |
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| 15:50.37 | Wobin | insane =P |
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| 15:53.57 | Recluse | lol http://www.pvponline.com/article/3093/sun-jan-21 |
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| 16:03.38 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r48920 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: fixed width setting |
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| 16:07.41 | [Ammo] | ag`: giev party targets in dev branch :) |
| 16:10.03 | Lukian | sweet, by using standalone libraries I've identified the high cpu usage ones :D |
| 16:10.15 | Lukian | now I can avoid any addons that use them :p |
| 16:11.22 | Lukian | and to the devs: TabletLib, Metrognome and SpecialEvents run a little hot :p |
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| 16:11.51 | ulic | and you might find alot of good addons won't run without them. |
| 16:12.30 | Lukian | yeah, i'm about to find out |
| 16:13.06 | nevcairiel | i try to avoid banzailib at all cost |
| 16:13.14 | nevcairiel | i hate when addons do a hard dep on it |
| 16:13.35 | Lukian | does the wowace wiki have a list of which addons use a specific library? |
| 16:13.44 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 16:13.52 | Fisker- | omg sb |
| 16:13.58 | ag` | [Ammo]: I'll put it as my next goal |
| 16:14.05 | Fisker- | tvtorrents got a fixed preair |
| 16:14.11 | Fisker- | i hope it's with proper sound |
| 16:14.14 | Lukian | ag`, agree! :) |
| 16:14.25 | Fisker- | ag` "as your next goal" :P |
| 16:14.32 | Fisker- | on a list on millions of goals |
| 16:14.41 | ag` | like what |
| 16:15.00 | sb | Fisker-: heh :o |
| 16:15.24 | Lukian | ag`, I want top right aura icons, kthx |
| 16:15.32 | Lukian | not just "top" :D |
| 16:15.37 | ag` | buffs go left |
| 16:15.41 | ag` | debuffs go right |
| 16:15.52 | Lukian | I can't reverse that :( |
| 16:16.17 | ag` | that's how it is currently |
| 16:16.41 | ag` | I'm afraid of making the aura module as huge as it is in pitbull |
| 16:16.47 | ag` | last time I checked it took 500kb |
| 16:16.55 | ag` | or something |
| 16:17.03 | ag` | I'm not sure tbh |
| 16:17.15 | Lukian | kk :) Is ag staying as light as possible or are features like (the cylical timer on buffs/casts on enemies - I have no idea what thisis called) -- and spark possible? |
| 16:18.22 | ag` | I don't know, I am making it easier to do extensions for the addon, so it's possible to have, perhaps in some aguf_extras or something |
| 16:18.37 | ag` | but I currently have bigger fish to fry |
| 16:18.38 | Lukian | yeah I like modules :) |
| 16:18.57 | Hjalte | ag`, giev fish. I'm hungry :( |
| 16:19.13 | ag` | salmon and tuna is about what I can handle |
| 16:19.14 | Lukian | me too :( |
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| 16:35.40 | cncfanatics | yo all |
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| 16:52.43 | Lukian | Hmm libThreat is demanding Parser-3.0 |
| 16:54.00 | ulic | yep, that's how it gets the threat info, parses the combat log |
| 16:54.26 | Lukian | Why doesn't it use ParserLib (1.1) ? |
| 16:54.51 | ulic | couldn't tell you, but obviously 1.1 != 3.0 |
| 16:54.59 | ulic | there are differences, but I don't know what they are. |
| 16:55.02 | Chompers | not LibParser4.0? |
| 16:55.06 | nevcairiel | because someone thought 1.1 wasnt good enough |
| 16:55.09 | nevcairiel | and created a new one :P |
| 16:55.10 | Chompers | or doesn't that exist yet |
| 16:55.11 | aestil | parser 4 will work as well. |
| 16:55.14 | Lukian | odd thing is, there's no standalone version of 3 in files.* |
| 16:55.15 | aestil | i believe. |
| 16:55.18 | Lukian | aestil, it didn't |
| 16:55.38 | aestil | ckk said Parser 4 had a 3 compatability layer |
| 16:55.49 | aestil | I have not tried. |
| 16:56.07 | Ominous | Lukian: http://files.wowace.com/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0-r44704.zip |
| 16:56.26 | ulic | tada |
| 16:56.28 | aestil | I think Parser 3 is just Parserlib on the WAU |
| 16:56.32 | Lukian | is 3 backwards compatible for anything using 1.1 ? |
| 16:56.38 | aestil | yes. |
| 16:56.42 | Lukian | I can't use WAU. I don't use .net ever :p |
| 16:56.44 | Ominous | aestil: no its not |
| 16:57.09 | aestil | ominous: whhha? |
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| 16:57.43 | Xinhuan | parser 1.1 was written to fix a bug while the author was away |
| 16:57.44 | Ominous | asmodai: parser-3.0 is a parser ckknight wrote |
| 16:57.55 | Xinhuan | when the author came back, 3.0 was written to fix the bug the proper way |
| 16:58.01 | Xinhuan | that 1.1 didn't do |
| 16:58.08 | nevcairiel | 1.1 works fine |
| 16:58.10 | Xinhuan | so 3.0 and 1.1 are not compatible |
| 16:58.15 | nevcairiel | 3.0 is just the same with different api |
| 16:58.21 | Xinhuan | since they use a diff api |
| 16:58.29 | Xinhuan | but 3.0 has a 1.1 compat layer i think |
| 16:58.34 | Lukian | heh, can that be consolidated? |
| 16:58.35 | Xinhuan | so disabling 1.1 should be fine |
| 16:58.41 | nevcairiel | ckk didnt like the 1.1 API, and build a new one just for that cause. |
| 16:59.17 | aestil | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6366.0 |
| 16:59.17 | Zariel | so i got my addon working, but it gets a bit spammy so im trying to fix it, but need some help with the lua side of it |
| 16:59.28 | Zariel | http://penguinwithm4a1.org/svn/trunk/zoner/core.lua |
| 16:59.44 | Zariel | trying to check if the current zone is equal to the new zone that you go into |
| 16:59.53 | Zariel | but cant think of how to do it in lua |
| 16:59.56 | aestil | ominous: how is a compat layer with 1.1 not the same as being backwards compatible with 1.1? |
| 17:00.11 | Lukian | I'm seeing if 3.0 is compatible now |
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| 17:00.39 | Xinhuan | they are still not compatible in the sense that they require a compat layer |
| 17:00.57 | Ominous | aestil: i never said it wasent... i said "I think Parser 3 is just Parserlib on the WAU" isnt true |
| 17:01.03 | aestil | but i think that answers more than lukians question. |
| 17:01.13 | aestil | ominous: :) sorry, miscommunication. |
| 17:01.29 | Lukian | aestil / Xinhuan, 3.0 works fine with all my addons afaics |
| 17:01.45 | Xinhuan | i am aware of that Lukian |
| 17:01.52 | Xinhuan | [9/15 00:56:43] <Xinhuan> so disabling 1.1 should be fine |
| 17:01.56 | Xinhuan | i said that earlier |
| 17:02.13 | Lukian | should :p |
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| 17:02.19 | Lukian | In my case, it is :D |
| 17:02.27 | aestil | wow, this is semantics morning :) |
| 17:02.39 | Xinhuan | however, some addons still use 1.1 and point to the 1.1 as their externals |
| 17:02.47 | Xinhuan | so you will still end up downloading 1.1 for some addons |
| 17:03.04 | Xinhuan | so yeah |
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| 17:03.30 | Xinhuan | if you deleted 1.1, that folder may just pop up again and auto enable itself |
| 17:04.52 | Lukian | Xinhuan, I don't see how :p |
| 17:06.01 | aestil | will parserlibs be needed when the new event driven combat log goes live? |
| 17:06.11 | Xinhuan | nobody knows |
| 17:06.42 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 17:06.48 | nevcairiel | or at least, very simplified |
| 17:06.54 | nevcairiel | but thats still along time until there |
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| 17:08.09 | aestil | yes, i know. but if i understand correctly, the parser libs turn verbose text messages into events? |
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| 17:10.57 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 17:12.14 | sag_ich_nicht | hey ckknight. |
| 17:12.15 | Aeyan | Yo |
| 17:12.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ~slap ckknight |
| 17:12.34 | purl | ACTION slaps ckknight, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 17:12.58 | Lukian | hey ckknight :) |
| 17:14.17 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: ? |
| 17:14.29 | sag_ich_nicht | SML |
| 17:14.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i saw the changelog :P |
| 17:15.03 | aestil | what changelog? |
| 17:15.26 | sag_ich_nicht | some lib 2.0/1.0 upgrading and reverting :D |
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| 17:15.27 | cncfanatics | back, yo all |
| 17:16.23 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: for the SharedMedia addon? |
| 17:17.33 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah... i'm j/k |
| 17:19.30 | ckknight | um, what? |
| 17:24.10 | Zariel | ckk, my pitbull isnt saving if blankspace is enabled on some frames |
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| 17:27.11 | Zariel | i found that i wasnt writing to the wtf |
| 17:27.32 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r48921 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Prat.lua: added vim line so I don't break sylvanaar's weirdo hippy spacing (at least when whenever I'm using vim and not SciTE) |
| 17:28.33 | aestil | ckknight: fubar seems like it will gain the least from being rock. |
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| 17:34.00 | Fisker- | man sb that episode was sweet |
| 17:34.52 | sb | w/o sound? :P |
| 17:34.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: your version change was reverted |
| 17:35.35 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: yea, by Ammo. I set it as a precedent. *shrug* |
| 17:35.37 | Fisker- | yeah sb |
| 17:35.50 | Fisker- | but now i was so blatantly spoiled by the first one that i'll download the second one |
| 17:35.51 | ckknight | Zariel: weird |
| 17:36.01 | Zariel | ye |
| 17:36.26 | Zariel | i save a layout with it on, reload ui and its set the layout to Custom with the same settings but without the blank space |
| 17:36.37 | Zariel | only noticed it happening on target and ToT |
| 17:36.45 | ckknight | Zariel: odd |
| 17:36.50 | ckknight | Zariel: file a jira ticket |
| 17:36.50 | ckknight | jira.wowace.com |
| 17:36.57 | sb | Fisker-: i watched 5 min w/o sound... bah :o |
| 17:37.46 | Zariel | do you have to register on there? |
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| 17:39.37 | syeren | I'd love it if you fixed Filter Auras so it actually works, like it hasn't done for the last 2-3 months CK ;p |
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| 17:39.48 | syeren | *Buff Filtering |
| 17:39.49 | ckknight | set a jira ticket? |
| 17:39.54 | syeren | Why? |
| 17:39.57 | syeren | No error is given. |
| 17:40.05 | syeren | You have acknowledged the problem 3 times before. |
| 17:41.03 | Chompers | hey ckk |
| 17:41.07 | Chompers | no mad men so far :< |
| 17:45.26 | CIA-22 | 03fieroivan * r48922 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: Manufac: Refresh open menus when skill or inventory changes |
| 17:46.11 | ckknight | syeren: well I don't remember any of those 3 times |
| 17:46.17 | ckknight | syeren: the jira system is so I can keep track of bugs, even if an error doesn't show up |
| 17:47.30 | aestil | ckknight: which reminds me i need to file a jira ticket for SW:D hack in parrot |
| 17:47.54 | Zariel | i set a ticket ckknight |
| 17:48.01 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 17:48.10 | aestil | ckknight: is there a way to change the strata of pitbull unitframes? |
| 17:48.15 | ckknight | I gotta go |
| 17:48.57 | ckknight | no, make a ticket |
| 17:49.09 | Zariel | ciao |
| 17:59.42 | Nickenyfiken | ~seen arirelle |
| 17:59.43 | purl | i haven't seen 'arirelle', Nickenyfiken |
| 17:59.47 | Nickenyfiken | ~seen adirelle |
| 17:59.48 | purl | adirelle <n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 32d 19h 52m ago, saying: '~framexml'. |
| 17:59.58 | Nickenyfiken | ~slap purl |
| 17:59.59 | purl | ACTION slaps purl, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 18:00.00 | Nickenyfiken | liar! |
| 18:00.22 | Nickenyfiken | ~seen Adirelle|Work |
| 18:00.23 | purl | adirelle|work <n=Adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 16m 12s ago, saying: 'heh, the invisible part is ... interesting'. |
| 18:00.27 | Stan__ | ckknight: I reported 2 bugs on jira :) |
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| 18:01.18 | charon | Kaelten: ping |
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| 18:03.51 | charon | Kaelten: i can't commit to the SVN :( i checked out trunk non-recursively with the login you gave me, and filled in my addon folder |
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| 18:04.17 | charon | so now i have a working copy of trunk, with a folder Mangler/ in it that is scheduled to be added, filled with everything (i think) i need |
| 18:04.21 | charon | however when i try to commit that i get |
| 18:04.24 | charon | svn: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/0f65c439-1c3a-0410-97bc-43ea37742b6d': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 18:04.52 | charon | despite the 403 it does not seem to be an authentication issue because WireShark shows that SVN does indeed send the login. |
| 18:05.16 | Kaelten | hrm |
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| 18:05.36 | charon | also, if i try to remotely mkdir as so: |
| 18:05.44 | charon | svn mkdir -F Mangler/svn-commit.tmp http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Mangler |
| 18:05.46 | charon | i get the same error |
| 18:05.59 | charon | (the -F is just because i was too lazy to type the commit message again) |
| 18:06.14 | Kaelten | without a commit note its going to kick back at you |
| 18:06.24 | charon | -F means "read note from file" :-/ |
| 18:06.43 | Kaelten | and your commit note is in the form of Manger: <blah> |
| 18:06.45 | Kaelten | right? |
| 18:07.06 | charon | besides, as far as i can tell from the packet dump in WireShark, by the time it sends the error, the server doesn't even know anything about the log message, nor the file list |
| 18:07.08 | charon | yes |
| 18:08.04 | Kaelten | worked for me :( |
| 18:08.12 | Kaelten | btw I just made your folder |
| 18:09.13 | CIA-22 | 03siz * r48923 10Cartographer_Mining/Cartographer_Mining.toc: Cartographer_Mining - Change the Title to match the appearance of other Cartographer modules. |
| 18:09.21 | Kaelten | cia is behind |
| 18:09.21 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:09.46 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r48924 10Mangler/: Mangler: creating directory |
| 18:09.48 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r48925 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.lua modules/powerbar/powerbar.lua): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: added party targets (just free floating, I want to do more with them later I guess) |
| 18:09.57 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:10.05 | ag` | [Ammo]: there |
| 18:10.40 | Kaelten | charon: I can recreate your account |
| 18:10.48 | charon | well, people have offered to do this step already, and meh... i've been using SVN and running servers for it for more than two years now, so either i'm seriously failing at life (ahem) or something is indeed wrong with that account |
| 18:10.52 | Kaelten | can you browse dev.wowace.com? |
| 18:10.58 | charon | i'll try and commit a simple text file before you do that |
| 18:11.00 | charon | yes |
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| 18:11.05 | Kaelten | then your auth is working |
| 18:11.06 | Kaelten | :s |
| 18:11.07 | charon | checking out wasn't a problem either |
| 18:11.58 | *** join/#wowace Raz^^ (i=alyx-@r4ay106.net.upc.cz) |
| 18:12.20 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 18:12.37 | charon | you're not going to believe this |
| 18:12.42 | charon | i'll pastey my shell output, sec |
| 18:12.44 | Kaelten | ? |
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| 18:14.38 | Xinhuan | sounds like proxy issue |
| 18:14.54 | Xinhuan | not forwarding the webdav extension |
| 18:15.06 | Xinhuan | my isp never replied my email |
| 18:15.10 | Xinhuan | its been 2 weeks too |
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| 18:17.27 | Kaelten | :( |
| 18:17.57 | charon | Kaelten: http://ace.pastey.net/73855 |
| 18:17.59 | Aileen_ | did trac go away? |
| 18:18.25 | *** join/#wowace Arelenda (n=Arel@cable-87-244-186-51.upc.chello.be) |
| 18:18.44 | Kaelten | Aileen_: yes |
| 18:18.46 | Kaelten | charon: weird |
| 18:18.49 | Aileen_ | bummer |
| 18:18.59 | Kaelten | it was eating the server |
| 18:19.01 | Kaelten | :( |
| 18:19.05 | Kaelten | jira.wowace.com |
| 18:19.32 | kenlyric | somebody fitz with mapnotes? |
| 18:19.44 | Aileen_ | no I used to use it to browse source... the fisheye thing is too... I don't know, there's a ton of stuff all over the page :) |
| 18:19.49 | Ominous | Kaelten: mangler? |
| 18:19.56 | Xinhuan | is that folder read only? heh |
| 18:19.59 | Kaelten | Ominous: not mine |
| 18:20.06 | charon | Xinhuan: i have the same problem whether i'm at university, VPNed there or connected directly. doesn't seem likely that my ISP and university have precisely the same proxy misfeatures. |
| 18:20.07 | Ominous | Kaelten: kk |
| 18:20.32 | charon | Ominous: i stole some code from Antagonist, and made it into a very small addon that will do antagonist-like bars for all mangle debuffs your combat log sees |
| 18:20.34 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: didn't you use a german proxy ? |
| 18:20.50 | Xinhuan | yep i did, but only to circumvent my ISP's proxies |
| 18:20.53 | charon | Ominous: as you can see, i'm not quite there yet with the commit, though |
| 18:21.04 | Xinhuan | but its awfully slow and i dont really want to keep using it if i dont have to |
| 18:21.17 | Xinhuan | slow meaning it can take 3 minutes to do a commit that is barely 2 kb |
| 18:21.46 | cncfanatics | cewl |
| 18:21.48 | cncfanatics | unproxied ftw :) |
| 18:22.05 | charon | Kaelten: do you use AUTHZ? |
| 18:22.12 | Kaelten | yes |
| 18:23.00 | charon | would you mind double-checking that i have write access there? |
| 18:23.06 | charon | or recreate the account, whichever is less trouble |
| 18:23.19 | Xinhuan | kaelten could probably try to log in svn on your account |
| 18:23.25 | Xinhuan | and see if it works |
| 18:23.26 | charon | or that. |
| 18:23.38 | Xinhuan | probably easier that way to see if its an account issue |
| 18:23.45 | charon | btw for completeness |
| 18:23.47 | charon | $ svn --version |
| 18:23.47 | charon | svn, version 1.4.0 (r21228) |
| 18:24.23 | Kaelten | try now |
| 18:24.28 | aestil | i continue to get this error with my resize scrit for grid. how do i make sure that eepanels doesn't try to attach a panel to grid, unless grid is already there? |
| 18:25.50 | nevcairiel | yes trac is gone |
| 18:25.55 | nevcairiel | er scroleld up |
| 18:25.56 | nevcairiel | damnit! |
| 18:26.43 | charon | Kaelten: thanks a lot, the 403 is gone... pre-commit doesn't let me commit for some reason but i'll try with the actual files instead of an empty one |
| 18:28.48 | Ominous | charon: that would be the autoprops :) |
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| 18:30.20 | CIA-22 | 03charon * r48926 10Mangler/: Mangler: delete so I can hopefully use my earlier working copy |
| 18:30.39 | CIA-22 | 03charon * r48927 10Mangler/ (19 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:30.39 | CIA-22 | Mangler: tracks Mangle debuffs |
| 18:30.39 | CIA-22 | - initial import |
| 18:30.39 | CIA-22 | - most of the actual code stolen from Antagonist with permission |
| 18:30.39 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.53 | charon | YAY! |
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| 18:31.08 | Xinhuan | what does mangler do exactly in terms of tracking mangle debuffs? |
| 18:31.28 | charon | it shows a 12-second countdown bar for every mangle applied |
| 18:31.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 18:31.34 | charon | i.e. also those of other ferals near you |
| 18:31.55 | charon | (which is quite easy since every damage applied by the Mangle specials means a debuff) |
| 18:32.02 | Xinhuan | oh so more bars? :) |
| 18:32.16 | charon | :) |
| 18:32.48 | charon | you can configure whether it should make new bars for every druid (on the same target), or just re-start the current one |
| 18:33.25 | charon | it was just something that i wanted to have on my GUI, and there weren't any mods that did it or i couldn't find them, so i wrote it... first addon ever :) |
| 18:33.40 | Kaelten | it was some sort of fuckup with the access file. |
| 18:33.43 | charon | give it a shot if you're feral, tell me if you like it |
| 18:33.50 | Xinhuan | i dont' have a druid hehe |
| 18:34.09 | Arelenda | "for every mangle applied" ? |
| 18:34.16 | Arelenda | doesn't ever mangle just reset the timer? |
| 18:34.22 | Arelenda | doesn't everY mangle just reset the timer? |
| 18:35.03 | charon | well yeah, but if you separate them you can figure out how much overlap you have, since that is technically lost damage |
| 18:35.20 | Nickenyfiken | Anyone know what Cartographer_QuestInfo do? |
| 18:35.23 | charon | i'd pretend that was the actual reason you can toggle it, but i actually made the merger switch only when i figured separate bars were overkill. |
| 18:35.33 | Arelenda | I see. that's pretty useful if you have multipe ferals. |
| 18:35.43 | charon | Kaelten: well, thanks for fixing it :) |
| 18:36.07 | charon | do i have to create the wiki page myself, or will the server scripts make a skeleton from the toc? |
| 18:37.36 | charon | Ominous: btw, it wasn't a property setting, most assuredly... i made an empty file called 'empty' with svn:eol-style "native" and svn:mime-type "text/plain" and it wouldn't let me commit |
| 18:37.45 | Ominous | ah |
| 18:37.46 | Ominous | odd |
| 18:37.47 | charon | i suppose it requires either filename extensions or contents or both |
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| 18:38.15 | Xinhuan | maybe the difference algo didn't like empty files |
| 18:38.21 | Xinhuan | vs non-existant files |
| 18:38.28 | nevcairiel | we have a precommit whitelist for extensions |
| 18:38.36 | nevcairiel | no extension is prolly not on it |
| 18:38.41 | nevcairiel | so not allowed |
| 18:38.42 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:38.50 | Xinhuan | makefiles don't have extensions? |
| 18:38.58 | charon | lua needs makefiles? :) |
| 18:39.01 | nevcairiel | who needs makefiles on our svn? |
| 18:39.01 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 18:39.15 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 18:40.38 | charon | so what's with the wiki page, create myself or wait for the bot? |
| 18:40.51 | Kaelten | it'll auto create somethings but not all fo them |
| 18:41.01 | nevcairiel | just create it yourself |
| 18:41.34 | Fisker- | Oh hey, you... SUCK! |
| 18:41.55 | charon | i'm still stealing ideas from everyone else, so why should i stop at a bot? ;) |
| 18:42.10 | Kaelten | Fisker-: ? |
| 18:42.39 | Fisker- | just quoting my favorite class in TF2 |
| 18:42.52 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:42.55 | Fisker- | well not my favorite class but my favorite voice over |
| 18:43.06 | Kaelten | so whats the general opinion of the new files page? |
| 18:43.47 | Fisker- | from a scale from 1-10 it scores -10 obvious trolls |
| 18:43.50 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:43.54 | Xinhuan | i've posted it already but i can repeat it ;p |
| 18:44.01 | Fisker- | it's cool |
| 18:44.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: ajax or similar would be better than just silly JS to hide stuff i've already downloaded ;) |
| 18:44.02 | Kaelten | :P |
| 18:44.19 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: its going to continue to change |
| 18:44.24 | Kaelten | right now its still static |
| 18:44.29 | Fisker- | could almost used some kind of search or alphabetic index |
| 18:44.35 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* well you asked for opinions. ;) |
| 18:44.35 | Kaelten | for the ajax to work right with sorting I'd have to put a dynamic backend on it |
| 18:44.56 | Kaelten | Fisker- planning for some stuff today actually |
| 18:44.58 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 18:45.00 | Kaelten | hope to get it all done. |
| 18:45.10 | Xinhuan | well thats the thing - until those changes come, people WILL complain |
| 18:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | That said, I like the direction it's going. |
| 18:45.18 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm sure it'll be really nice once some other stuff gets in |
| 18:45.31 | Fisker- | the heavy is cool too |
| 18:45.36 | Kaelten | now, with the knowledge that I'm going to have to change the ads on the page how does that make you feel? |
| 18:45.52 | Xinhuan | there were ads on that page? |
| 18:45.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ads? |
| 18:46.07 | Kaelten | there where intellitext ads on the page |
| 18:46.08 | Fisker- | "I hear someone building diaper-changing-station" |
| 18:46.25 | Kaelten | I'm taking those off and going to have banner there instead |
| 18:47.03 | Kaelten | I'm using some tricks though that won't let them slow t he page down |
| 18:47.40 | nevcairiel | i hate it when the page loads fast, but the ad server hangs |
| 18:47.46 | nevcairiel | allakhazam had that way too often |
| 18:48.01 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: ya, I won't let that be an issue for us. |
| 18:48.17 | Kaelten | if the adserver is slowing down the page will still load and the ads will catch up... someday |
| 18:48.20 | nevcairiel | stuff them in an iframe |
| 18:48.20 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 18:48.21 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:48.26 | Kaelten | exactly ;) |
| 18:48.36 | Kaelten | going to go and change all the ads to iframes |
| 18:48.47 | Kaelten | but this will be the first page with that |
| 18:48.59 | Kaelten | also going to add some filtering options. |
| 18:49.01 | Kaelten | so that'll be neat |
| 18:49.20 | Xinhuan | ETA? |
| 18:49.43 | Kaelten | today? |
| 18:49.44 | Kaelten | hopefully |
| 18:50.36 | cncfanatics | meh, tbh, I just end up blocking the adserver |
| 18:50.43 | cncfanatics | and I end up doing so for every webby I visit |
| 18:50.58 | Xinhuan | i just click the STOP button in the browser |
| 18:51.14 | cncfanatics | I just block the adserver's domain, adds bother me :( |
| 18:51.19 | charon | the ad server wowhead sets no Content-Type: on its javascripts, making Konqueror ask if i want to save this-and-that "plain text" file... |
| 18:52.20 | cncfanatics | moooo |
| 18:52.22 | cncfanatics | funny :p |
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| 18:53.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:54.40 | *** join/#wowace Whinewhisper (n=ask@78.80-202-20.nextgentel.com) |
| 18:54.43 | Kaelten | I'm testing my new changes on a beta page today |
| 18:54.47 | Kaelten | so that I don't freak people out |
| 18:54.51 | Kaelten | some of it has been fugly |
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| 18:59.59 | sedatedChipmunk | Lukian: that shouldn't happen in bulkmail; it specifically clears the name field after it finishes a send job |
| 19:00.22 | Lukian | hyperChipmunk, when i reopen the mailbox window, the last sender.. oh wait |
| 19:00.30 | Lukian | Does Automation have a module that does that? |
| 19:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | check your other addons |
| 19:00.36 | Lukian | -i |
| 19:00.49 | hyperChipmunk | i duno what automation is |
| 19:00.58 | hyperChipmunk | is it on the svn? |
| 19:00.59 | MoonWitch | I think automaton does have one for that |
| 19:01.07 | Lukian | cheers MoonWitch , I'll check |
| 19:01.29 | MoonWitch | but i am having a blonde moment (for the last week or so) so I can be wrong :P |
| 19:02.06 | hyperChipmunk | bulkmail is most powerful when there is nothing in the to: field; I wouldn't hamper that intentionally >8) |
| 19:02.14 | Fisker- | btw hyperChipmunk |
| 19:02.17 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (i=bozartmp@cl1-81.it.rit.edu) |
| 19:02.26 | Fisker- | when i mouseover an item i get lots of cute little spam in my cute little chatwindow |
| 19:02.37 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 19:02.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's truly fascinating |
| 19:02.58 | Fisker- | that's what i said |
| 19:02.59 | MoonWitch | cute little ... spam... that's a tad frightening |
| 19:03.06 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 19:03.12 | cncfanatics | what else would u expect from Fisker- ? |
| 19:03.15 | cncfanatics | ~Fisker- |
| 19:03.15 | purl | fisker- is probably DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER, or a linux hater |
| 19:03.23 | Fisker- | no |
| 19:03.24 | Fisker- | U |
| 19:03.27 | MoonWitch | I don't know. I've never talked to most of you |
| 19:03.29 | cncfanatics | purl, Fisker- is also knows as troll number 5165156465746 |
| 19:03.29 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 19:03.37 | cncfanatics | ~Fisker- |
| 19:03.37 | purl | hmm... fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER, or a linux ... |
| 19:03.45 | cncfanatics | meh, stupid limit |
| 19:04.06 | MoonWitch | who hates linux >.< |
| 19:04.28 | Fisker- | i sure don't |
| 19:04.31 | hyperChipmunk | if you're new here, you should be advised to just ignore him |
| 19:04.44 | MoonWitch | nor do I. |
| 19:05.50 | charon | what's the most important factor for login time? number of addons installed? size of SV files? |
| 19:06.18 | hyperChipmunk | speed of computer |
| 19:06.21 | cncfanatics | neither |
| 19:06.22 | MoonWitch | LOL |
| 19:06.33 | cncfanatics | speed of computer and amount of cpu time taken by the addon's loading process |
| 19:06.36 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 19:06.39 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 19:06.45 | MoonWitch | I am going to fit in just fine |
| 19:07.01 | Fisker- | hyperChipmunk |
| 19:07.05 | Fisker- | i has picture for you |
| 19:07.07 | MoonWitch | just need an IRC client that's not Pidgin |
| 19:07.12 | cncfanatics | pidgin is fine tbh |
| 19:07.14 | cncfanatics | i'm using it :) |
| 19:07.27 | hyperChipmunk | irssi+screen |
| 19:07.28 | MoonWitch | I know.. I just prefer a black background :P |
| 19:07.31 | Xinhuan | [9/15 03:03:58] <charon> what's the most important factor for login time? number of addons installed? size of SV files? |
| 19:07.38 | Xinhuan | i'm going to go with "user's perception" |
| 19:07.39 | *** join/#wowace Huuph (n=chatzill@0x503e54dc.naenxx13.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:07.40 | Xinhuan | as the answer ;p |
| 19:07.46 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 19:07.52 | charon | heh |
| 19:07.57 | hyperChipmunk | users velocity relative to the speed of light |
| 19:08.03 | cncfanatics | Moonwitch, theme it ? |
| 19:08.11 | cncfanatics | I got a dark gray background with light gray text |
| 19:08.13 | cncfanatics | ala Inkpot |
| 19:08.16 | MoonWitch | was that a pm? |
| 19:08.17 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 19:08.39 | MoonWitch | I feel lost in pidgin, while I used gaim for the longest time in red hat |
| 19:08.53 | Fisker- | http://i13.tinypic.com/4qrq5ba.jpg |
| 19:08.55 | Fisker- | Do it hyperChipmunk |
| 19:09.02 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, what distro u on now ? |
| 19:09.15 | hyperChipmunk | i'll wait for someone else to look first, I think |
| 19:09.38 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: i.. i think i love you. |
| 19:09.45 | Fisker- | DO IT |
| 19:09.46 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:09.52 | Fisker- | it's not goatse |
| 19:09.54 | hyperChipmunk | durcyn: wtf |
| 19:09.59 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: irssi + screen |
| 19:10.18 | Fisker- | i love him more |
| 19:10.34 | hyperChipmunk | Fisker-: looks like you'ev got a problem with enhtooltip |
| 19:10.36 | MoonWitch | I clicked on it, it's not goatse or tubgirl |
| 19:10.51 | Fisker- | noes |
| 19:10.55 | Fisker- | i haet you enhtooltip |
| 19:12.17 | *** join/#wowace karpadnik52 (i=karpadni@gateway/tor/x-d0eff6ead1ae1550) |
| 19:12.33 | Aileen_ | I'm just using ChatZilla :) |
| 19:13.22 | Thrae | ~fisker- |
| 19:13.23 | purl | fisker- is probably A linux hater demands this DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel nor its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END. |
| 19:14.02 | Kaelten | ~kaelten |
| 19:14.02 | purl | you are, like, the admin of wowace.com and sometimes types things into wrong winDROP DATABASE wowace_wiki;...aw, dammitall. |
| 19:14.22 | Kaelten | ~thrae |
| 19:14.23 | purl | methinks thrae is awesome. |
| 19:14.26 | Thrae | cncfanatics: There ya go. |
| 19:14.30 | Xinhuan | ~xinhuan |
| 19:14.36 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 19:14.57 | Fisker- | purl forget fisker- |
| 19:14.57 | purl | Fisker-: i forgot fisker- |
| 19:14.59 | Fisker- | HAH |
| 19:15.01 | Fisker- | i win |
| 19:15.17 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 19:15.24 | durcyn | ~whalecrit fisker- |
| 19:15.24 | purl | ACTION crits fisker- with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. fisker- dies |
| 19:15.25 | cncfanatics | ~cncfanatics |
| 19:15.25 | purl | methinks cncfanatics is the flexbar2 author |
| 19:15.29 | MoonWitch | brb |
| 19:15.54 | Fisker- | purl fisker- is <reply>Fisker- has candy in the black van, you should probably follow him into the van. |
| 19:15.54 | purl | Fisker-: okay |
| 19:15.58 | Fisker- | ~fisker |
| 19:15.58 | purl | DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. Please take everything he says with a grain of salt. We think he's just here to try and get more CP. - END DISCLAIMER |
| 19:16.02 | Fisker- | ~fisker- |
| 19:16.03 | purl | Fisker- has candy in the black van, you should probably follow him into the van. |
| 19:16.10 | Fisker- | purl no fisker is <reply>Fisker- has candy in the black van, you should probably follow him into the van. |
| 19:16.11 | purl | okay, Fisker- |
| 19:16.15 | Fisker- | kthx |
| 19:16.26 | Xinhuan | fisker and fisker- is different |
| 19:16.27 | Xinhuan | you know |
| 19:16.35 | Fisker- | no me |
| 19:16.39 | Fisker- | purl forget fisker |
| 19:16.39 | purl | i forgot fisker, Fisker- |
| 19:16.48 | Fisker- | wasn't me who set Xinhuan btw |
| 19:16.51 | Fisker- | just so you know |
| 19:17.13 | Xinhuan | i never had an entry in the first place ;p |
| 19:18.49 | *** join/#wowace MoonWitch (n=MoonWitc@83.101.2.200) |
| 19:18.58 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:19.15 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: wtb searching on files.wowace.com when viewing all downloads |
| 19:19.22 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 19:19.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 19:19.25 | Kaelten | Josh_Borke: ctrl-f for right now |
| 19:19.30 | Josh_Borke | it didn't work for me |
| 19:19.38 | nevcairiel | meh kaelten was faster in typing ctrl-f :P |
| 19:19.45 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 19:19.54 | Josh_Borke | search for recount |
| 19:19.55 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@66.89.174.138.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 19:20.04 | Josh_Borke | does that work? |
| 19:20.31 | nevcairiel | finds FuBar_RecountFu, and Recount after that |
| 19:20.34 | durcyn | purl, ignore fisker- |
| 19:20.35 | purl | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, fisker-!" |
| 19:20.45 | Josh_Borke | ooo, i have match case turned on |
| 19:20.46 | Josh_Borke | doh |
| 19:20.52 | hyperChipmunk | retard |
| 19:20.56 | Josh_Borke | i fail |
| 19:21.01 | hyperChipmunk | and wtf uses ctrl-f |
| 19:21.12 | nevcairiel | what do you use? |
| 19:21.16 | hyperChipmunk | slash |
| 19:21.29 | hyperChipmunk | /recount |
| 19:21.35 | nevcairiel | my keyboard has slash on a shifted key |
| 19:21.40 | hyperChipmunk | you suck |
| 19:21.41 | nevcairiel | shift-7 or ctrl-f |
| 19:21.41 | NeoTron | So last night we killed Vashj again (second time, after quite a few failures)... |
| 19:21.42 | nevcairiel | who cares |
| 19:21.48 | NeoTron | and then we proceeded to wipe three times on mags |
| 19:21.56 | hyperChipmunk | how do you type pathnames O_o |
| 19:22.06 | nevcairiel | i use shift-7 |
| 19:22.09 | hyperChipmunk | that must be so friggin annoying |
| 19:22.09 | Aileen_ | firefox uses ctrl-f |
| 19:22.13 | NeoTron | good news is we now have a full day to work on kael'thas |
| 19:22.15 | NeoTron | I predict pain |
| 19:22.25 | durcyn | this is wonderful news neotron, thank you |
| 19:22.26 | nevcairiel | cant change the german keyboard layout |
| 19:22.38 | hyperChipmunk | why not? it's just a layout =p |
| 19:22.44 | nevcairiel | meh :P |
| 19:22.59 | Fisker- | internet explorer used ctrl+b in the danish versions |
| 19:23.10 | Fisker- | pissed me off so much that i never used danish windows again |
| 19:23.20 | nevcairiel | i use a english windows, and enlish software when i can get it |
| 19:23.25 | hyperChipmunk | l2setxkbmap |
| 19:23.45 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 19:24.00 | Fisker- | obvious troll is obviouuuuuuuuus |
| 19:24.10 | Josh_Borke | i use ctrl-f so gfy hC |
| 19:24.11 | nevcairiel | plus, xp64 what i run now, doesnt even have any localized versions :P |
| 19:24.36 | hyperChipmunk | no, gfY |
| 19:25.02 | cncfanatics | I just don't use any MS software |
| 19:25.06 | cncfanatics | I do love their hardware though |
| 19:25.19 | Josh_Borke | hyperChipmunk: NO! GFY! |
| 19:25.26 | hyperChipmunk | omg you win |
| 19:25.41 | Josh_Borke | lol |
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| 19:26.13 | Zariel | how do i save a variable (from a function) so i can recall it and check it against the new variable from the function |
| 19:26.14 | Zariel | =/ |
| 19:26.29 | hyperChipmunk | define it outside |
| 19:27.15 | hyperChipmunk | local foo; function bar(newfoo) if foo == newfoo then dostuff() end end |
| 19:27.50 | Fisker- | are the ocean's <insert number> movies good? :P |
| 19:27.58 | Fisker- | and do i have to see them from 11-13? |
| 19:28.05 | cncfanatics | 11 is good |
| 19:28.06 | Zariel | watch 11 |
| 19:28.07 | Zariel | then 13 |
| 19:28.10 | cncfanatics | 12 sucks |
| 19:28.13 | cncfanatics | 13 is okish |
| 19:28.15 | Zariel | 11 > 13 > 12 |
| 19:28.18 | Zariel | 12 sucks |
| 19:28.26 | cncfanatics | good u agree with me Zariel :) |
| 19:28.38 | Fisker- | 12 > 13 > 11 |
| 19:28.41 | Fisker- | hoho trolling |
| 19:28.42 | Zariel | i enjoyed 13 after thinking it was going to be wank |
| 19:30.03 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, lets see |
| 19:30.07 | cncfanatics | does my mobile phone support ogg |
| 19:30.11 | cncfanatics | anyone wanne place bets ? |
| 19:30.21 | hyperChipmunk | i bet it doesn't |
| 19:30.24 | Xinhuan | by the laws of mathematics, 13 > 12 > 11 |
| 19:31.15 | ulic | by the laws of hollywood, "what's mathematics?" |
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| 19:33.04 | cncfanatics | tbh, don't pronounce holywood when i'm in the chan :p |
| 19:33.06 | cncfanatics | before I go in a frenzy |
| 19:33.37 | Fisker- | hollywood? |
| 19:33.51 | cncfanatics | who gives a fuck |
| 19:33.55 | cncfanatics | they're responsible for this crap |
| 19:33.57 | cncfanatics | ~drm |
| 19:33.57 | purl | drm is probably http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No (tm), or http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 19:34.28 | MoonWitch2653 | oh wow I love WAU2 |
| 19:34.45 | Zariel | cncfanatics i bet it doesnt :) |
| 19:34.50 | Fisker- | you can't, it's java |
| 19:34.59 | cncfanatics | Zariel, eh ? |
| 19:35.03 | Zariel | play ogg |
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| 19:35.43 | ckknight | Fisker-: what would you rather have? |
| 19:35.48 | Fisker- | Perhaps i should create the Microsoft Defense Force |
| 19:36.11 | MoonWitch2653 | Fisker, I do, solely based on the look. And it loaded up faster than the normal one |
| 19:36.16 | Fisker- | http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/ <- |
| 19:36.21 | Fisker- | why i mentioned it :P |
| 19:38.30 | Zariel | writing addons make me level slower damnit :( |
| 19:38.41 | MoonWitch2653 | though I have a stupid question (to which I am sure I will receive a simple answer).. maybe it would be nice to add a setting for the colors, as in what color will show outdated-needing-to-update etc |
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| 19:39.34 | MoonWitch | was trying something :P |
| 19:40.40 | Stan__ | ckknight: I reported 2 bugs on jira :) |
| 19:40.49 | ckknight | I got that message |
| 19:40.52 | ckknight | which projects |
| 19:40.53 | Stan__ | ok |
| 19:40.53 | ckknight | ? |
| 19:40.57 | Stan__ | thought you were gone |
| 19:41.02 | Stan__ | cartographer and rock |
| 19:41.06 | Stan__ | RockLib |
| 19:44.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48928 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: |
| 19:44.30 | CIA-22 | LibRock-1.0 - ROCK-11 |
| 19:44.30 | CIA-22 | - add check to :Embed to make sure a table is fed in. |
| 19:44.53 | Fisker- | So RockLib is released? :O |
| 19:45.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48929 10LibRollCall-2.0/LibRollCall-2.0.lua: |
| 19:45.11 | CIA-22 | LibRollCall-2.0 - ROCK-11 |
| 19:45.11 | CIA-22 | - make sure to return if the library is outdated. |
| 19:45.14 | ckknight | Fisker-: not quite yet |
| 19:45.20 | ckknight | very soon, mind you |
| 19:45.23 | Fisker- | :o |
| 19:45.36 | ckknight | why? |
| 19:45.37 | Fisker- | your addons will be rock-based when it's released then? |
| 19:45.43 | ckknight | that's the idea |
| 19:45.50 | ckknight | you can already test em out if you want |
| 19:45.51 | Fisker- | ok |
| 19:46.19 | MoonWitch | pulling them from the svn? |
| 19:46.24 | MoonWitch | to test that i |
| 19:46.26 | MoonWitch | is* |
| 19:47.01 | Stan__ | ckknight: thx for fixing! have you looked into the combatfader and rangechecker problem? |
| 19:47.10 | ckknight | not yet |
| 19:47.13 | ckknight | MoonWitch: yes. |
| 19:47.15 | ckknight | MoonWitch: they're in branches. |
| 19:47.28 | ckknight | Cartographer, PitBull, Parrot, and CowTip are updated to Rock |
| 19:47.31 | ckknight | working on FuBar now |
| 19:47.36 | MoonWitch | ckknight: thanks. I am fairly new to all this. |
| 19:47.44 | ckknight | it's okay :-) |
| 19:48.10 | MoonWitch | ckknight: I use all of the above lol |
| 19:48.30 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 19:48.36 | ckknight | thanks for your support |
| 19:48.57 | ckknight | if you do use all of em and are comfortable with em, if you could get the rock versions and tell me how it "feels", that'd be great |
| 19:49.05 | ckknight | the main thing that'll be different is configuration |
| 19:49.14 | MoonWitch | will do :) |
| 19:49.56 | ckknight | the configuration is all nice and standardized now :-) |
| 19:50.34 | Stan__ | ckknight: sometimes when you click "+" on the last item you see in the list, and it expands, you only see it when you scroll up and down again |
| 19:50.45 | ckknight | yea, I have an issue about that already :-P |
| 19:51.05 | ckknight | ROCK-9 |
| 19:51.20 | Stan__ | cool :) |
| 19:51.24 | Undine | anyone know a mod that lists people on channels nicely? maybe in a fubar tooltip? |
| 19:51.45 | ckknight | Undine: ah, just wait till WoW 2.2 |
| 19:51.48 | ckknight | :-P |
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| 19:52.51 | cncfanatics | moo, think i'll work on FB after this gundam episode |
| 19:52.52 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 19:53.15 | Undine | meh, i might grow old and die ;) |
| 19:54.27 | Industrial | gomdan! |
| 19:54.30 | Industrial | er |
| 19:54.31 | Industrial | gundam! |
| 19:54.36 | Industrial | what series cncfanatics? |
| 19:54.43 | Industrial | that's a highlight for me :P |
| 19:54.47 | Industrial | hm, I should make it onw. |
| 19:54.48 | Industrial | one* |
| 19:55.21 | cncfanatics | gundam wing |
| 19:55.27 | Elkano | got the Gundam Wing movie here... ;) |
| 19:55.33 | cncfanatics | dl'ing gundam seed atm |
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| 19:57.21 | MoonWitch | ckknight: I could be dense here, but zip doesn't work (ie7) and the other options lead to empty tarballs :( |
| 19:58.09 | Stan__ | you have to use a SVN Tool |
| 19:58.22 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:58.23 | MoonWitch | even if I go through fish? |
| 19:58.29 | MoonWitch | *cry* |
| 19:58.35 | ckknight | I dunno, fish is a but funky |
| 19:58.48 | MoonWitch | I seem to notice that right now lol |
| 19:58.56 | MoonWitch | I'll grab tortoise again |
| 19:58.57 | Funkeh` | ck I gonna kill you man |
| 19:59.18 | ckknight | before you turn me into a martyr, remember this: |
| 19:59.22 | ckknight | I did it for the lulz |
| 19:59.27 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 20:03.09 | Fisker- | * Python bites Kaelten in the neck |
| 20:03.13 | Fisker- | It's super effective! |
| 20:03.22 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker- |
| 20:03.22 | purl | slaps Fisker- around with a large trout |
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| 20:03.42 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r48930 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: bug fix, default tweaks |
| 20:04.52 | ckknight | lol, Kaelten |
| 20:04.55 | ckknight | err |
| 20:04.59 | ckknight | lol, Fisker- |
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| 20:13.50 | Xinhuan | so i'm a little bored now |
| 20:14.01 | Ominous | Kaelten: what you doing in python? |
| 20:14.04 | MoonWitch | I am not.. lol |
| 20:14.06 | Xinhuan | and wondering if a svn's commit numbers start at 0 or 1 ;p |
| 20:14.13 | Xinhuan | i must be really bored |
| 20:14.15 | Stan__ | ckknight: Message: ..\AddOns\Cartographer\Cartographer.lua line 234: attempt to index local 'opt' (a nil value) |
| 20:14.19 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: 0 |
| 20:14.37 | nevcairiel | but generally you create the default folders trunk branches tags in revision 1 |
| 20:14.40 | ckknight | Stan__: any debugstack? |
| 20:14.41 | nevcairiel | and start code in 1 |
| 20:14.41 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:14.51 | Stan__ | ckknight: sec |
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| 20:15.10 | Xinhuan | so at r0, the svn is totally empty? |
| 20:15.16 | nevcairiel | yup |
| 20:15.31 | Stan__ | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/73858 |
| 20:15.32 | Xinhuan | or can it start with some default state with some files already present |
| 20:15.50 | nevcairiel | i dont think it can, but i am not that deep into svn mechanics |
| 20:16.04 | nevcairiel | would prolly be easier to just commit those as r1 |
| 20:16.35 | ckknight | Stan__: CIA's slow, update Cartographer |
| 20:16.48 | Stan__ | k |
| 20:19.26 | Stan__ | ckknight: awesome. works .) |
| 20:19.47 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 20:20.11 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 20:20.36 | Stan__ | ckknight: why does cartographer still need AceLibrary and AceLocale? |
| 20:20.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48932 10LibJostle-3.0/ (. LICENSE.txt LibJostle-3.0.lua LibJostle-3.0.toc lib.xml): LibJostle-3.0 - upgrade to Rock |
| 20:20.53 | ckknight | Stan__: because Babble-Boss-2.2 |
| 20:20.59 | ckknight | not a 3.0 version yet |
| 20:21.08 | Stan__ | oh ok |
| 20:21.09 | ckknight | also, it uses Tablet-2.0, which is still Ace2 |
| 20:21.46 | cncfanatics | how would I create a branch copy of an addon? |
| 20:22.10 | MoonWitch | ckknight: do I need a svn account to comment on things pertaining to the Rock versions of addons? or just use the forums.. |
| 20:22.40 | cncfanatics | forums i'd guess |
| 20:22.49 | MoonWitch | okies :) |
| 20:22.53 | ckknight | cncfanatics: first, create the branch path with svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FlexBar2; svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FlexBar2/Rock |
| 20:23.04 | ckknight | then svn cp the trunk to the new branch |
| 20:24.05 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48933 10LibJostle-3.0/LibJostle-3.0.toc: LibJostle-3.0 - fix TOC |
| 20:24.25 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r48934 10/branches/FlexBar2/: FlexBar2: Preparation for branching |
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| 20:24.56 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics 07Rock * r48935 10FlexBar2/: FlexBar2: Preparations for branching |
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| 20:25.47 | cncfanatics | thanks ckk |
| 20:25.54 | ckknight | :-) |
| 20:26.03 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics 07Rock * r48936 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/: FlexBar2: Preparations for branching |
| 20:26.10 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 20:26.23 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 20:26.25 | Josh_Borke | heh |
| 20:27.25 | Whinewhisper | for the filetable on wowace.com |
| 20:27.30 | cncfanatics | meh, externals still as slow |
| 20:27.37 | Whinewhisper | could you maybe change the secondary colour to a bit of a smoother/more pleasant colour |
| 20:27.46 | Whinewhisper | right now it's like looking at a zebra in 200 KM/h |
| 20:30.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48937 10FuBar/FuBar/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:30.51 | CIA-22 | FuBar - upgrade to Rock. |
| 20:30.51 | CIA-22 | - still supports Ace2 plugins. |
| 20:30.51 | CIA-22 | - still uses Dewdrop for configuration (will change, though). |
| 20:31.03 | Whinewhisper | anyone know if recount will be fixed soon >_< |
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| 20:32.39 | Matrix110 | recount is idd weird atm but just give cryect some time:P |
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| 20:34.22 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48938 10Ace3/AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua: |
| 20:34.22 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - AceTimer-3.0 |
| 20:34.22 | CIA-22 | - implement ACE-31 |
| 20:35.46 | Zariel | ok i give up |
| 20:35.48 | Zariel | http://penguinwithm4a1.org/svn/trunk/zoner/core.lua |
| 20:35.49 | Zariel | =/ |
| 20:35.51 | Kuja^ | ckknight: do you plan to port all the other Cartographer modules too or is it up to the authors? b/c they don't work anymore w/ the rock branch (how surprising :P) |
| 20:36.03 | ckknight | really? |
| 20:36.04 | ckknight | they should. |
| 20:36.07 | ckknight | they work for me |
| 20:36.09 | Kuja^ | sec |
| 20:36.12 | ckknight | if they don't, that's a bug |
| 20:36.18 | ckknight | make sure they're all updated, though |
| 20:36.30 | ckknight | if you get an error, tell me and I'll try to resolve it |
| 20:36.34 | Zariel | trying to get it check if the new subzone is == to the old one you were in to reduce spam because the event fires a lot |
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| 20:37.59 | Kuja^ | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/73861 |
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| 20:38.18 | ckknight | ick |
| 20:38.29 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics 07Rock * r48939 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/: FlexBar2: Externals |
| 20:38.35 | ckknight | okay, I made the fix for Dewdrop, I can make the fix for AceConsole |
| 20:38.46 | Kuja^ | heh :P |
| 20:38.52 | ckknight | thanks, btw |
| 20:39.01 | Kuja^ | np |
| 20:39.57 | Sarana | Okay going to try to recreate the LibSignal branch with the correct version of the code and the right path this time. (Nayala here) |
| 20:40.32 | Sarana | I want to double check, it should be wowace/branches/LibSignal/Nayala/LibSignal/... right? |
| 20:40.41 | ckknight | Kuja^: incoming |
| 20:40.50 | ckknight | Sarana: LibSignal-1.0 or so |
| 20:40.51 | Kuja^ | wheee :) |
| 20:41.04 | ckknight | should have the whole major version |
| 20:41.42 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 20:41.42 | purl | [rock] an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. |
| 20:41.44 | ckknight | cncfanatics: ^-- |
| 20:41.57 | cncfanatics | cant find links from there meh |
| 20:42.05 | ckknight | Kuja^: CIA's just slow, but the commit's on the SVN |
| 20:42.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48940 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - make :InjectAceOptionsTable not mess up when dealing with non-AceOO objects. |
| 20:42.09 | ckknight | it's in there, cncfanatics |
| 20:42.15 | cncfanatics | found the AceOO one |
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| 20:42.26 | ckknight | http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock/Living_Without_AceOO |
| 20:42.37 | ckknight | the other part is just API Differences |
| 20:42.58 | cncfanatics | ok, i'm just blind |
| 20:43.52 | Sarana | Same with the lua and TOC files? |
| 20:44.07 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:44.32 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=771309575&postId=7711214887&sid=1#1 <-zomg i'm so funny |
| 20:44.39 | ckknight | omfg job offer |
| 20:44.58 | cncfanatics | ckknight, where ?? |
| 20:45.04 | Fisker- | get a free green card to america and start working right away?* |
| 20:45.33 | ckknight | cncfanatics: SoCal |
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| 20:46.06 | ckknight | for a "Point of View" gaming company |
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| 20:47.59 | snurre | lol, england got so slaughtered in rugby :p |
| 20:48.48 | cncfanatics | meh, too young :) |
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| 20:49.12 | ckknight | what's too young? |
| 20:49.14 | cncfanatics | hmmm ckknight, what does LibRockConsole provide ? |
| 20:49.22 | cncfanatics | I mean, i'm too young to get decent jobs :) |
| 20:49.24 | ckknight | not as much as AceConsole |
| 20:49.30 | ckknight | dude, I'm only 20 :-P |
| 20:49.32 | cncfanatics | I use my own slashcommand API |
| 20:49.36 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:49.39 | cncfanatics | i'm 17 ckknight :p |
| 20:49.44 | Zariel | i should have learned to program at 13 :( |
| 20:49.51 | cncfanatics | Zariel; I did :p |
| 20:49.52 | Zariel | instead of playing shitty cs lol |
| 20:49.53 | ckknight | well study for 3 years |
| 20:49.58 | ckknight | Zariel: I started at 10 |
| 20:50.07 | cncfanatics | actualy, i'm 18 now :o need to finish my last year and then uni time |
| 20:50.13 | ckknight | well, LibRockConsole-1.0 provides simple output and simple input, the input has to be custom-made, though |
| 20:50.17 | ckknight | which is probably best for you |
| 20:50.27 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, need :Print too hard :) |
| 20:50.28 | ckknight | it's like AceConsole without AceOptions support |
| 20:50.31 | cncfanatics | input custom made it great |
| 20:50.34 | cncfanatics | its what I do anyway |
| 20:50.43 | ckknight | the API's only slightly different |
| 20:51.08 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.16 | ckknight | slash commands at the back instead of the front |
| 20:51.21 | cncfanatics | I'll see |
| 20:51.25 | ckknight | and a function (or method) has to be provided |
| 20:51.27 | cncfanatics | I'll just read every part of ur lil howto |
| 20:51.43 | ckknight | I've still to write the Ace2 to Rock porting dealy |
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| 20:52.24 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.39 | Zariel | how much does wowace.com cost to run ? |
| 20:52.45 | MoonWitch | Uhm, if I shouldn't get externals from the svn, how do I obtain the rock libs etc? |
| 20:53.25 | cncfanatics | Zariel, less then it brings in me thinks |
| 20:55.15 | cncfanatics | is it me or did woace just crash ? |
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| 20:55.31 | MoonWitch | I think it crashed |
| 20:55.57 | MoonWitch | and I hope to god it wasn't me, since I was getting the rock version of pitbull, cart and parrot |
| 20:56.13 | MoonWitch | well not at once |
| 20:56.13 | cncfanatics | ofc it wasnt |
| 20:56.22 | cncfanatics | checking out cant crash a server |
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| 20:56.34 | MoonWitch | you'd be surprised how grand I am in breaking things :P |
| 20:56.37 | cncfanatics | actualy, if u managed to crash the server, thats good, at least u can report to Kaelten how u did it and he can fix that security bug |
| 20:56.46 | Elkano | well, maybe the server crashed itself in order to prevent the checkout from happening? |
| 20:56.58 | Kuja^ | lol |
| 20:57.10 | MoonWitch | who knows |
| 20:57.19 | cncfanatics | meh, no docu |
| 20:57.42 | MoonWitch | I have this insane ability to always find it, if there is a way something can break, usually I'll come across that way |
| 20:57.52 | Kuja^ | works again here |
| 20:58.18 | MoonWitch | so I'll just ask .. was it me? |
| 20:58.19 | MoonWitch | >.< |
| 20:59.11 | Hjalte | Kaelten probably knows what it was |
| 20:59.49 | cncfanatics | I hope we see a /mode +b MoonWitch soon :p |
| 20:59.58 | MoonWitch | +b? |
| 21:00.17 | cncfanatics | banned |
| 21:00.28 | MoonWitch | thought so |
| 21:00.32 | MoonWitch | why do you hope it? |
| 21:01.06 | cncfanatics | dunno |
| 21:01.07 | cncfanatics | I like you |
| 21:01.38 | cncfanatics | wowace's back up |
| 21:02.03 | MoonWitch | what's the difference trunk svn? |
| 21:02.25 | cncfanatics | englisch plx |
| 21:02.58 | MoonWitch | well, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace has branches, tags and trunk as directories. |
| 21:03.15 | MoonWitch | I wondered what the difference is between the trunk and the branches. |
| 21:03.32 | cncfanatics | trunk is unstable |
| 21:03.38 | cncfanatics | branches is experimental |
| 21:03.38 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 21:05.28 | Recluse | wtb pcre for lua >.< |
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| 21:08.08 | Stan__ | ckknight: is Fubar for Rock ready to test or should I wait? |
| 21:08.23 | ckknight | wait till I get it to use LibRockConfig-1.0 |
| 21:08.34 | Stan__ | okay |
| 21:08.47 | orionshock | so i take it that cart is done being converted? |
| 21:09.13 | Eggi | isn't it better to wait until most of your addons are converted... otherwise you have ace2 and rock ... and maybe ace3 ... |
| 21:09.33 | orionshock | for the average user? yes |
| 21:09.36 | orionshock | for me? no |
| 21:10.05 | Eggi | but you somehow lose the advantage... |
| 21:10.06 | Stan__ | hehe |
| 21:11.50 | ckknight | Eggi: the frameworks themselves aren't too heavy |
| 21:11.55 | ckknight | Eggi: so it's not a huge issue |
| 21:12.08 | orionshock | if i stand absolutely still - my frame rate evens out at 30 |
| 21:12.20 | orionshock | if i move at all it shits up to 3fps |
| 21:12.21 | Eggi | it's not about frame rate |
| 21:12.44 | Eggi | loading time should be the main difference imo... but i haven't tested it... |
| 21:12.53 | orionshock | no that's normal for me w/o addons |
| 21:13.05 | Zariel | :O |
| 21:13.18 | Zariel | i made a new char and tried using the most minimal ui i could |
| 21:13.23 | Zariel | was like ~3mb addons |
| 21:13.37 | Zariel | but whats the point when you have 1gb ram |
| 21:15.28 | cncfanatics | mem used to be precious |
| 21:15.31 | cncfanatics | it aint anymore :) |
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| 21:16.00 | art3mis | http://www.yourlibrary.ca/citizenship/index.cfm |
| 21:16.06 | orionshock | well the 30->3 fps only happens for the first 10mins of the game when wow is still unpacking it's mpq'z |
| 21:16.13 | cryogen | just because you have a lot of something doesnt mean you should waste it |
| 21:16.24 | cncfanatics | there is a citizenship EXAM ? |
| 21:16.31 | cryogen | high memory usage in a addon that doesnt need it usually indicates bad design or implementation |
| 21:16.38 | art3mis | it's a good thing they didnt call them FDG files |
| 21:16.44 | cncfanatics | ofc cryogen |
| 21:16.54 | art3mis | cuz then wow would be packing and unpacking fdg all time |
| 21:16.55 | Fisker- | http://www.sk-gaming.com/scene/13220/ <-retards |
| 21:17.20 | orionshock | >.> 29/38 afk in AV |
| 21:18.01 | art3mis | Zeuzo, here's a few tips on what you can buy for 7,000€. |
| 21:18.01 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.01 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.01 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.01 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.02 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.04 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.06 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.08 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.24 | art3mis | i like the 250k wowgold on there |
| 21:18.25 | MoonWitch | haha, I would even consider levelling up to sell it if it goes that high, and just start anew >.< |
| 21:18.33 | MoonWitch | me the laptops |
| 21:18.38 | art3mis | its cuz he had both illidans blades |
| 21:18.45 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 21:18.45 | art3mis | thats the only reason it went that high |
| 21:18.46 | cncfanatics | so, basicly |
| 21:18.50 | cncfanatics | a guild that can kill illidan |
| 21:18.54 | cncfanatics | can farm rogue accounts to 70 |
| 21:19.01 | cncfanatics | and sell em for 7000€ each |
| 21:19.02 | cncfanatics | CEWL |
| 21:19.06 | MoonWitch | yep yep |
| 21:19.16 | cncfanatics | thats just, meh, get a life :p |
| 21:19.21 | Fisker- | i'm just looking forward to the poor idiots being banned |
| 21:19.31 | Fisker- | and Method supporting breaking the ToS |
| 21:19.32 | cncfanatics | that guy prolly wont get banned |
| 21:19.40 | Fisker- | looks like he already did get banned |
| 21:19.47 | cncfanatics | u know blizzard doesnt take non-internal data as evidence |
| 21:19.51 | Fisker- | the armory profile haven't been updated for like 2 weeks now |
| 21:20.02 | cncfanatics | though they're prolly going to investigate it a lot though |
| 21:20.09 | Fisker- | no but now there are hundreds of mean griefers looking into reporting him |
| 21:20.12 | cncfanatics | but if those guys transfered the char well, there's no risk |
| 21:20.18 | Fisker- | that means me |
| 21:20.35 | Fisker- | kudos to the guy who sold it though |
| 21:20.53 | Fisker- | i would've done it myself in a heartbeat |
| 21:21.04 | cncfanatics | same, god, 7000€ and bye bye WoW addiction |
| 21:21.07 | Fisker- | and of course reported him afterwards |
| 21:21.23 | cncfanatics | (actualy, I stopped WoW, only programming now :p bit silly but meh :) |
| 21:21.25 | Fisker- | "Yeah i just sold this account to another guy |
| 21:21.26 | Fisker- | " |
| 21:21.27 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:21.30 | Fisker- | that would be funny |
| 21:21.42 | cncfanatics | blizz wld prolly try to sue those 7000€ out of ya |
| 21:21.45 | MoonWitch | I play ... but mainly with my UI .... |
| 21:22.08 | art3mis | hehe would have been even funnier if it was some 14yo rich kid and no-one told the guild |
| 21:22.29 | art3mis | so he sits around in iron forge all day posing with his swords and yelling LOL! |
| 21:22.36 | MoonWitch | LOL |
| 21:22.40 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 21:22.42 | cncfanatics | sad sad sad game :) |
| 21:22.45 | cncfanatics | where has it gone |
| 21:22.57 | cncfanatics | wish I knew enough 3d to make my own game, ahem |
| 21:23.04 | cncfanatics | would only take me 10years to get a game out solo |
| 21:23.11 | art3mis | im never quite sure about people that spend "extra" money on a video game |
| 21:23.29 | art3mis | it just seems wrong on so many levels |
| 21:23.30 | MoonWitch | well to be honest, I used to play silkroad online and I did buy gold in game once |
| 21:23.44 | art3mis | kind of like paying to watch cam whores instead of getting a prostitute |
| 21:24.01 | art3mis | ive sold gold |
| 21:24.12 | art3mis | well traded for game cards, but same premise |
| 21:24.12 | MoonWitch | why? because the prices had inflated so much, that at half the level cap (lvl35 now 40) you had to spend 20 mil for something half assed decent |
| 21:24.13 | cncfanatics | why go get a prostitute instead of a damn girlfriend ? |
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| 21:24.29 | cncfanatics | they both cost money, but meh |
| 21:24.31 | art3mis | cncfanatics: nerds who play video games arent social divas ;P |
| 21:24.39 | cncfanatics | i'm no social diva either :p |
| 21:24.44 | MoonWitch | why get a girlfriend, when a B.O.B works just as well, without the hassles |
| 21:24.46 | cncfanatics | even a god damn nerd can get a girlfriend |
| 21:24.46 | art3mis | my point exactly ;P |
| 21:24.50 | art3mis | laugh moon |
| 21:25.00 | art3mis | havent heard that term in a long time |
| 21:25.07 | cncfanatics | havent ever heard it :) |
| 21:25.10 | MoonWitch | meh, I am getting older |
| 21:25.13 | art3mis | battery operated buddy |
| 21:25.15 | art3mis | a bob |
| 21:25.19 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 21:25.22 | cncfanatics | oh rofl |
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| 21:25.41 | Elkano | cncfanatics, prostitutes don't want cuddle after ;) |
| 21:25.50 | ag` | :( |
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| 21:25.58 | art3mis | Elkano: thats a good thing |
| 21:26.06 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 21:26.21 | ag` | reminds me of boondog saints |
| 21:26.23 | MoonWitch | yeah, the after cuddling would up the price a lot |
| 21:26.24 | orionshock | Elkano: they can if you pay extra |
| 21:26.44 | ag` | "I want to cuddle" "what a fag" |
| 21:27.07 | Elkano | well, the question was "why get a prostitute instead of a girlfriend", so not wanting to cuddle would be a PRO ;) |
| 21:27.18 | MoonWitch | ooooh |
| 21:27.20 | orionshock | lol |
| 21:27.33 | MoonWitch | 'tis a good place to sit |
| 21:27.42 | MoonWitch | any way I can get IRC from within WoW? |
| 21:27.46 | Fisker- | i want to cuddle with you Elkano |
| 21:28.05 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, no |
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| 21:28.12 | MoonWitch | *sniff* |
| 21:28.24 | cncfanatics | someone could in theory make a bot for that |
| 21:28.29 | cncfanatics | but he'd get banned fast |
| 21:28.36 | MoonWitch | probably |
| 21:28.36 | cncfanatics | lose his acc, and would have to pay for it too, don't see why he wld do it :) |
| 21:28.40 | Elkano | I want to rip out your eyes, spil your blood and slice the remainings of your body in small pieces... but we both don't get what we want... |
| 21:28.51 | MoonWitch | wow |
| 21:28.55 | MoonWitch | I like you Elkano |
| 21:29.08 | MoonWitch | I like the way you think >.< which makes me strange |
| 21:29.10 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, ur gonna end up hating half this chan and liking the other one |
| 21:29.26 | cncfanatics | except if ur a weirdo like me that is, I like everyone :) |
| 21:29.27 | MoonWitch | as long as it's mutual it's cool |
| 21:29.32 | orionshock | naa... only a few here i don't like |
| 21:29.43 | cncfanatics | orionshock: me me me ! |
| 21:29.52 | orionshock | no |
| 21:29.55 | cncfanatics | :( |
| 21:29.59 | MoonWitch | yeah he dislikes all three of you :P |
| 21:30.03 | Zariel | is it posible to hide wow XP gain on screen? |
| 21:30.06 | Elkano | cncfanatics, I also hardly dislike anyone... but once they manage to get me to that point... well... |
| 21:30.26 | Kuja^ | im beeing liked? cool :) |
| 21:30.31 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, a lil question about metatable |
| 21:30.37 | cncfanatics | if I have a metatable for __index |
| 21:30.38 | orionshock | like Josh_Borke ... he came off on irc as a complete asshole that not only knows what he's talking about but will make you remember that he does |
| 21:30.43 | cncfanatics | and that metatable in turn also has a metatable for __index |
| 21:30.53 | MoonWitch | lol orionshock |
| 21:30.58 | cncfanatics | would it work as expected with the original table ? |
| 21:31.06 | cncfanatics | that is, I can get stuff from the second metatable's index |
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| 21:33.25 | Josh_Borke | what'd i do? |
| 21:33.43 | Josh_Borke | i must have been frustrated then |
| 21:33.46 | Josh_Borke | whatever :-) |
| 21:34.18 | MoonWitch | well I know I know nothing, though I have my odd moments in which things make sense to me :P |
| 21:34.42 | Josh_Borke | orionshock: when did this happen? ^_^ |
| 21:34.55 | orionshock | lol Josh_Borke ; we where talking about true/false boolean values |
| 21:35.01 | Josh_Borke | oh |
| 21:35.04 | Josh_Borke | :-D |
| 21:35.15 | Josh_Borke | that i was just frustrated because you were being dumb :-P |
| 21:35.59 | orionshock | that for a func that specified a given variable was a boolen that if you passed it the term false would still be false; i argued the point that no you supplied with something - nil or not, it would evaluate true |
| 21:36.18 | Josh_Borke | yea, what did it end up being? |
| 21:36.25 | orionshock | i was right |
| 21:36.35 | Josh_Borke | wasn't it something like the parameters that it was erroring about was inconsistent |
| 21:36.42 | orionshock | the person took the term out of the function call and it worked correctly |
| 21:36.55 | Sarana | Okay renamed to LibSignal-1.0 and ran it through a bunch of test. Lets see if I do this right. Much more used to Clearcase than SVN. |
| 21:37.39 | orionshock | no i don't believe so josh |
| 21:37.40 | CIA-22 | 03nayala * r48941 10/branches/LibSignal-1.0/ (8 files in 4 dirs): LibSignal-1.0: Conceptual signalling library |
| 21:38.03 | ulic | Tells your party that you're turning left? |
| 21:38.32 | Sarana | Heh, no it's a low level callback type library. |
| 21:38.35 | orionshock | does it include backing up? and any sounds with that ? :P |
| 21:38.42 | MoonWitch | LOL |
| 21:38.46 | art3mis | cnc is a liar |
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| 21:38.58 | art3mis | <cncfanactics> art3mis, i hate you |
| 21:39.00 | ckknight | cya all later |
| 21:39.18 | MoonWitch | sorry, I now have a mental image of a computer monitor with signaling lights on the sides |
| 21:39.33 | orionshock | LOL - it's ulic's fault |
| 21:40.00 | ulic | I do what I can to disrupt without trolling :P |
| 21:40.05 | Sarana | Ulic, your going to make me rename it aren't you? :) |
| 21:40.10 | art3mis | hehe *waits for ckk to add RL/PL waypoint setting with turn isngals |
| 21:40.12 | art3mis | signals |
| 21:40.16 | MoonWitch | LOL |
| 21:40.35 | MoonWitch | but the question is "will they blink" |
| 21:40.36 | Zariel | is it posible to hide wow XP gain on screen? |
| 21:40.46 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 21:40.48 | cncfanatics | interface options ? |
| 21:40.54 | orionshock | no |
| 21:40.56 | art3mis | yes red arrows on a yellow background, all blinking |
| 21:41.44 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 21:41.50 | cncfanatics | I shld RLy watch at what libs I use |
| 21:41.54 | cncfanatics | and do things myself when I can |
| 21:41.58 | cncfanatics | replaced aceOO with 10 lines of code |
| 21:42.11 | MoonWitch | naaah red on bright blue .. it's more ... disturbing |
| 21:42.11 | orionshock | lol |
| 21:42.22 | orionshock | converting flexbar to rock? |
| 21:42.28 | art3mis | for that flashing 3-d effect ;P |
| 21:42.41 | MoonWitch | yeah |
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| 21:42.57 | MoonWitch | and the puke-in-the-bucket-because-migraines-are-triggered |
| 21:43.08 | Sarana | I can do anything in one line of code.... ... ... ... ... ... provided that the line length limits are long enough. |
| 21:43.17 | cncfanatics | orionshock , ya |
| 21:43.18 | art3mis | hey if its good enough for pokemon.... |
| 21:43.34 | cncfanatics | I mean real lines |
| 21:43.43 | cncfanatics | max one func per line with me except if its a simple ifcheck |
| 21:43.51 | MoonWitch | lol brb gotta reboot, explorer.exe just decided it wanted to goof around on me, and not be ok after a restart of the process |
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| 21:44.23 | Hjalte | Damn. Pitbull really bugs when my target-of-target has a debuff. Anyone else having problems like that using AltAura? |
| 21:46.59 | cncfanatics | mooo, i'm tired |
| 21:47.01 | cncfanatics | g'night people |
| 21:47.47 | Wogroipl | w000t Magtheridon down first try of the night :) |
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| 21:48.03 | Wogroipl | and as a bonus we killed Doomwalker as well |
| 21:53.12 | Kaelten | I was pinged? |
| 21:54.27 | Hjalte | Kaelten, i guess it was because of a 20 sec downtime for wowace |
| 21:54.36 | Kaelten | ? |
| 21:54.41 | Kaelten | everything ok now right? |
| 21:54.51 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 21:54.53 | Hjalte | Yeah |
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| 21:55.34 | Kaelten | cool |
| 21:55.42 | Kaelten | looking for feedback on files.wowace.com |
| 21:56.12 | MoonWitch | looks good |
| 21:56.27 | Hjalte | Kaelten, i like the new layout, though i liked the old one as well, but sometimes getting to see all addons would be nice. |
| 21:56.32 | MoonWitch | though (again it could be me) but anyone else seeing a hor scroll in IE7? |
| 21:56.37 | Kaelten | me |
| 21:56.47 | alcohol | yay a show all function again |
| 21:56.48 | Kaelten | looking at it on my laptop right now |
| 21:56.51 | Sarana | Looks like nice in OmniWeb. Glad to see Show All was added. |
| 21:57.05 | Zariel | would definatley perfere an alphebetical sorting method instead of numerical, but looks good |
| 21:57.15 | alcohol | uh |
| 21:57.16 | Kaelten | getting ready for a major update to it |
| 21:57.29 | alcohol | Zariel: what do you mean ? |
| 21:57.31 | Kaelten | after that my next update to it will be alphabetical filtering |
| 21:57.34 | MoonWitch | perhaps change the background color of the blue grey to slightly lighter, though it's merely looks |
| 21:57.59 | Zariel | being able to view page A,B,C,D instead of 1,2,3,4 |
| 21:58.00 | MoonWitch | so the pages won't be numbered? but A - B - C? |
| 21:58.03 | alcohol | oh |
| 21:58.05 | MoonWitch | lol .. |
| 21:58.06 | alcohol | I get it now |
| 21:58.17 | alcohol | basically alphabetical categories |
| 21:58.22 | MoonWitch | that's great |
| 21:58.54 | Kaelten | actually I'm going to do both |
| 21:58.56 | Kaelten | allow you to filter by start letter |
| 21:59.02 | Kaelten | but it'll still be paged within that letter |
| 21:59.06 | MoonWitch | that's really nice |
| 21:59.13 | alcohol | what's a decent dmg meter now a days ? sws ? |
| 21:59.15 | Kaelten | doing the same for categories right now. |
| 21:59.16 | MoonWitch | yep.. good move |
| 21:59.28 | Kaelten | allowing filtering by category |
| 21:59.31 | Zariel | yeah kaelten that will be really good |
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| 21:59.43 | MoonWitch | alcohol: Violation or Omen are good .. haven't used any others |
| 21:59.55 | alcohol | what's the main difference between those ? |
| 22:00.05 | Recluse | omen = threat meter o.O |
| 22:00.07 | omega | omen is a threatmeter, no? |
| 22:00.10 | MoonWitch | Violation tracks healing, dps, damage done |
| 22:00.14 | MoonWitch | yeah sorry ... |
| 22:00.14 | omega | I would say its a big difference |
| 22:00.18 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 22:00.18 | Kaelten | I know some people won't like some of todays changes |
| 22:00.20 | Recluse | hehe |
| 22:00.24 | alcohol | oh, then omen isn't what I meant |
| 22:00.31 | MoonWitch | violation is |
| 22:00.36 | alcohol | thanks |
| 22:00.38 | alcohol | I'll try it out |
| 22:00.39 | Zariel | MINIMAP_ZONE_CHANGED doesnt seem to be firing =/ |
| 22:00.46 | MoonWitch | I am thinking of the one I had before that... but can't come up with the name |
| 22:02.14 | MoonWitch | I knew I would like WOW UI stuff, but that I'd end up here like this, I didn't anticipate .. |
| 22:02.28 | alcohol | damage meters ? |
| 22:02.29 | alcohol | sws ? |
| 22:02.40 | alcohol | there was one literally called damage meters |
| 22:02.52 | alcohol | I ditched it when I stumbled upon sws. |
| 22:03.42 | Kaelten | MoonWitch: ? don't like us! |
| 22:03.46 | Kaelten | is that what yer saying! |
| 22:03.57 | MoonWitch | eh? huh |
| 22:04.00 | MoonWitch | oh no |
| 22:04.02 | Shirik | Zarhan: What are you trying to catch? |
| 22:04.20 | MoonWitch | lol I just didn't expect to end up wanting to learn to use lua, end up in a community in IRC |
| 22:04.42 | MoonWitch | heck, I didn't even think I'd spend more time tinkering with stuff than actually playing :P |
| 22:05.28 | Skyboat | sounds like a professional game developer then |
| 22:05.55 | MoonWitch | me, naah I am jobless, uneducated (officially) |
| 22:06.18 | MoonWitch | I just happen to never have found my niche in school, since our system sucks hairy monkey nuts through a drinking straw |
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| 22:06.46 | Skyboat | nah I mean that sounds like what a professional game developer is :p |
| 22:06.53 | MoonWitch | ooh |
| 22:07.01 | MoonWitch | yeah i am thinking in that line |
| 22:07.03 | MoonWitch | wb ckknight |
| 22:07.08 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.10 | ckknight | how's everyone feeling today? |
| 22:07.12 | Skyboat | lots of C++ knowledge needed :x |
| 22:07.23 | Kuja^ | yo ckknight |
| 22:07.28 | ckknight | what's all this, then? |
| 22:07.28 | MoonWitch | yep, that's the lang I gotta learn to finally graduate :) |
| 22:07.34 | Skyboat | mm |
| 22:07.38 | ckknight | c'mon, C++ is easy |
| 22:07.44 | ckknight | I learned it when I was 10 |
| 22:07.48 | Skyboat | -.- |
| 22:08.03 | MoonWitch | well I was 17 when I first discovered I liked code :P |
| 22:08.13 | ckknight | how old are you now? |
| 22:08.16 | MoonWitch | 24 |
| 22:08.21 | Skyboat | I'd say the single biggest thing I struggle with when it comes to programming languages is the correct terminology |
| 22:08.23 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:08.24 | MoonWitch | fighting the system here is hard |
| 22:08.26 | Skyboat | usually i'm fine on structure, etc |
| 22:09.02 | Sarana | C++ is fun. The latest mailing before the next meeting just came out. Really looking forward to C++0x |
| 22:09.15 | MoonWitch | I usually look for too complex solutions where it could be done easier |
| 22:09.18 | ckknight | Sarana: yea, I saw the specs, it does seem to solve quite a few issues |
| 22:10.20 | MoonWitch | out of sheer curiosity, which editor do you use? (for lua / C++ / whatever else) |
| 22:10.27 | ckknight | TextMate |
| 22:10.28 | Sarana | Of course it will be a long time before I can benefit. Really wishes I had time to work on another compiler besides the ones I'm responsible for at work. |
| 22:10.50 | Skyboat | Crimson Editor for Lua, MSVS 2k5 Express for C++ |
| 22:11.47 | Sarana | I'm a big fan of Xemacs myself. |
| 22:12.18 | MoonWitch | in linux I swore by Vi |
| 22:12.31 | MoonWitch | emacs I never got along with, don't know why. |
| 22:12.41 | Skyboat | lol, I can't remember the one I used on linux |
| 22:12.47 | ckknight | the whole vi vs. emacs thing is pretty stupid anyway |
| 22:12.50 | ckknight | vi is the clear winner |
| 22:12.51 | Skyboat | vi was too awkward for me |
| 22:12.54 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:12.56 | MoonWitch | LOL |
| 22:13.05 | ckknight | for console editting I tend to use nano, actually |
| 22:13.11 | MoonWitch | it was part of our nix sys admin course |
| 22:13.12 | Skyboat | mm |
| 22:13.15 | Skyboat | nano ftw |
| 22:13.19 | MoonWitch | true nano isn't bad at all |
| 22:13.36 | Sarana | I used to use Vi , LSE and ed, but had some jobs where emacs was the standard so ended up switching. |
| 22:14.46 | ckknight | MoonWitch: it's great for simple stuff |
| 22:14.52 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 22:15.01 | Zariel | dont you love it when youve been working on something, and then it just works |
| 22:15.02 | ckknight | why did the C++ convo arise, btw? |
| 22:15.03 | Zariel | hmmm... |
| 22:15.10 | MoonWitch | I never did find my true editor in windows |
| 22:15.17 | MoonWitch | partially my fault |
| 22:15.19 | Corgan | I <3 nano |
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| 22:15.36 | MoonWitch | see all I wanted was simple, syntax highlighting and that's it |
| 22:16.17 | Zariel | i love notepad2, so smooth :D |
| 22:17.11 | MoonWitch | oh that made me remember scite |
| 22:18.39 | Skyboat | ah ckknight: it was only because we mentioned professional games developing, where you need strong C++ skills |
| 22:18.43 | ckknight | Zariel: used to use that |
| 22:18.53 | alcohol | can prat highlight tabbed chat panes or something when new text in them has appeared ? |
| 22:18.58 | ckknight | I got a call from a game dev company an hour ago :-P |
| 22:19.04 | Sarana | Nice |
| 22:19.07 | Zariel | :) |
| 22:19.17 | MoonWitch | that's always a good thing |
| 22:19.32 | omega | depends on what they said |
| 22:19.47 | omega | if it was "hey, you pirated that game didnt you?" I would say it wasn't a cool call :p |
| 22:20.33 | Zariel | stealth pirates! |
| 22:20.37 | MoonWitch | well I am speaking from the assumption it wasn't a negative conversation |
| 22:21.06 | MoonWitch | the other day a friend of mine tried his hardest to convince me that Blizz rents out servers for WoW for the priavte server players |
| 22:21.13 | Sarana | My sister's husband is a professional game programmer, I believe he does engine/tool work. I thought about getting into it at one point... but decided I would rather play games then program them. Get long enough days at times in my job. Game developers often have horrible crunches. |
| 22:21.38 | omega | and some crunches seem to last forever |
| 22:21.47 | Kaelten | ckknight: nice, which one? |
| 22:21.49 | snurre | MoonWitch: lol |
| 22:21.57 | ckknight | Kaelten: pointofview.com |
| 22:22.06 | Kaelten | hrm, haven't heard of em, but gratz! |
| 22:22.20 | Kaelten | I'm continuing my rework of the categories. |
| 22:22.25 | ckknight | they've made few games, none of which I've played, though |
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| 22:23.40 | Zariel | i used to do 2d art for a mod team |
| 22:23.41 | Zariel | was good |
| 22:24.56 | ckknight | bbiab |
| 22:27.26 | alcohol | anyone else having their chat tabs not flashing when using prat ? |
| 22:27.36 | MoonWitch | the flash? |
| 22:27.38 | MoonWitch | they* |
| 22:28.12 | alcohol | actually |
| 22:28.14 | alcohol | it does |
| 22:28.21 | alcohol | but only when I'm whispered |
| 22:28.26 | alcohol | it doesn't on new guild chat |
| 22:28.31 | alcohol | :< |
| 22:28.40 | MoonWitch | mine never have done that |
| 22:28.43 | MoonWitch | *new* guild chat? |
| 22:28.58 | MoonWitch | << goes to open WoW .. expect delayed responses |
| 22:29.23 | alcohol | .. |
| 22:29.28 | alcohol | new guild chat |
| 22:29.29 | alcohol | as in |
| 22:29.33 | alcohol | I'm adding new irc chatter right now |
| 22:29.38 | alcohol | new lines |
| 22:29.39 | MoonWitch | oooh |
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| 22:36.07 | sylvanaar | when did wow flash chat tabs for guild chat? |
| 22:36.26 | alcohol | I dunno |
| 22:36.30 | alcohol | I thought prat did that |
| 22:36.37 | sylvanaar | beats me |
| 22:36.42 | alcohol | likewise |
| 22:37.25 | Coruss | are there any pally tanks in the house? |
| 22:37.31 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:37.37 | ckknight | Coruss: lvl 52 one here |
| 22:38.07 | Nickenyfiken | omg you are a Chinese ckknight! |
| 22:38.14 | ckknight | no |
| 22:38.16 | ckknight | I'm quite white |
| 22:38.23 | ckknight | about half-English, half-Scottish |
| 22:38.26 | Coruss | heh, I was a pally tank from 52-64, looking for level 70 advice |
| 22:38.33 | Coruss | *52=40 |
| 22:38.35 | Nickenyfiken | But you level so fast :-/ |
| 22:38.44 | ckknight | no, I don't |
| 22:39.34 | Coruss | ckknight: I've seen a pile of pally tanks using spell damage swords for tanking, should I be going for a spell damage weapon or a defense/tanking weapon? |
| 22:39.38 | NeoTron | Coruss: we have a raiding pally tank in the guild |
| 22:39.42 | NeoTron | I might be able to give some advice |
| 22:39.54 | Coruss | well neo, thats the question |
| 22:40.02 | NeoTron | typically it seems pally tanks ONLY use weapon and perhaps shield for their spell damage needs |
| 22:40.03 | Coruss | spell damage weapon, or tanking/defense weapon |
| 22:40.11 | ckknight | Coruss: well spell damage is great for stuff like Cons and other spells, really it's up to your taste. |
| 22:40.21 | NeoTron | if it comes down to being crit maybe tank weapon |
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| 22:40.32 | ckknight | if you have immense spell damage, you can just spam lvl 1 Cons and it blows shit away |
| 22:40.35 | Coruss | ya I've heard its good to have a spell damage weapon for things like dps race fights |
| 22:40.37 | NeoTron | if you can't hold aggro you might need a bit more spell damage |
| 22:40.40 | ckknight | but that's more for AoE tanking |
| 22:40.55 | NeoTron | aa large chunk of pally threat comes from spell damage |
| 22:41.04 | NeoTron | but typically you don't need a whole lot of it |
| 22:41.04 | Fisker- | Protection is good in leveling actually |
| 22:41.11 | Fisker- | but mostly in the lower levels |
| 22:41.15 | Coruss | lower? |
| 22:41.21 | Fisker- | i switched back to retribution when i hit ~58ish |
| 22:41.30 | Fisker- | yeah 35-58 i believe |
| 22:41.33 | NeoTron | I'm holy on my pally and haven't been prot since the mid 40s a long itme ago (my first l60 in retail was this pally) |
| 22:41.41 | ckknight | FuBar needs an icon! |
| 22:41.45 | Coruss | << ret 1->40 prot 40->64 holy/ret -> 70 |
| 22:41.48 | Fisker- | also needs some planing |
| 22:41.50 | NeoTron | I hated leveling as retri. holy had similar DPS and I had less downtime |
| 22:41.51 | ckknight | anyone have any advice? |
| 22:41.57 | Fisker- | ckknight Missingno of course |
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| 22:42.08 | ckknight | from Pokemon? |
| 22:42.13 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 22:42.19 | ckknight | no. |
| 22:42.23 | Fisker- | :( |
| 22:42.23 | Coruss | NeoTron: so basically having a spell damage weapon and the rest of my gear as tanking gear would work |
| 22:42.36 | alcohol | where do pitbull and the like pull their fonts from ? |
| 22:42.46 | Fisker- | everybody loves missingno |
| 22:42.52 | ckknight | SharedMedia, alcohol |
| 22:43.12 | MoonWitch | hey ckknight .. I just tried Rock verson of Pitbull, CowTip and Parrot, each uses about 1.2MB |
| 22:43.14 | alcohol | I see |
| 22:43.18 | MoonWitch | other then that, I love it. |
| 22:43.38 | NeoTron | Coruss: typically yeah |
| 22:43.43 | ckknight | hrm, likely because all the libs are inside of it, MoonWitch |
| 22:43.52 | Coruss | ok, thats what I was looking for |
| 22:43.54 | MoonWitch | though with Parrot, you might want to make the configuration mode show up on top of the Rock Config screen |
| 22:43.57 | ckknight | MoonWitch: do you run your normal libraries as standalones or embeds? |
| 22:44.05 | MoonWitch | right now embeds. |
| 22:44.11 | NeoTron | !c us Kilrogg Moradin |
| 22:44.13 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: Moradin, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (10/44/7). 13527 HP; 6978 Mana; 89 mana regen; 15115 Armour; 79.700 Melee DPS; 5.09% melee crit; 333 +spell dmg/heal; 356 defense; 17.33% dodge; 30.40% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 486 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ynwmzu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2j9cnt ][ Updated: Fri Sep 14 18:57:09 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:44.15 | ckknight | yea, that's likely why :-P |
| 22:44.16 | MoonWitch | I can disembed in a quickie |
| 22:44.18 | NeoTron | our pally tank |
| 22:44.23 | MoonWitch | alrighty.. |
| 22:44.34 | Coruss | 356 defense?? |
| 22:44.38 | NeoTron | I honestly don't know how much he really knows about proper gearing though |
| 22:44.54 | NeoTron | weird |
| 22:45.01 | NeoTron | he has 500 defense |
| 22:45.20 | Fisker- | http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/09/FUBAR%201.jpg <-hehe, could be a good picture if we had a icon for it :P |
| 22:45.38 | Coruss | maybe he logged off in dps gear |
| 22:45.51 | NeoTron | the armory is correct |
| 22:45.56 | NeoTron | check http://tinyurl.com/ynwmzu |
| 22:45.56 | Coruss | nope |
| 22:45.59 | ckknight | Fisker-: possibly something here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_Inventory_Gizmo |
| 22:45.59 | Coruss | ya I just did |
| 22:46.06 | Coruss | the bot is broken! |
| 22:46.09 | MoonWitch | Fisker-: making that into an icon isn't too hard |
| 22:46.43 | ckknight | I do like the Stanley FuBar pic |
| 22:46.54 | Diao | the defense on thraebot |
| 22:46.56 | Diao | is defense rating |
| 22:46.58 | Diao | not actual player defense |
| 22:46.59 | NeoTron | defense rating is 356 |
| 22:47.02 | Diao | i made that mistake too |
| 22:47.07 | NeoTron | so I noticed :) |
| 22:47.12 | Coruss | aaah |
| 22:47.25 | Coruss | ya I don't 100% agree with his spec... but thats his choice |
| 22:47.37 | Coruss | can't wait for 2.2, the buff to seal of vengeance is gonna rock |
| 22:47.45 | Diao | buff? :o |
| 22:47.58 | Coruss | they're changing it so that once it has 5 stacks, every hit will do holy damage |
| 22:48.02 | NeoTron | supposed to do direct damage instead (like SoR) when ... yeah that |
| 22:48.06 | Diao | oh |
| 22:48.09 | Diao | instead of resetting the stacks? |
| 22:48.11 | Coruss | or a chance to do holy damage |
| 22:48.13 | Coruss | in addition to |
| 22:48.22 | Diao | ah |
| 22:48.31 | Coruss | basically it becomes SoR, but with a DoT |
| 22:48.44 | Coruss | so you don't burn so much mana/GCD on judgements |
| 22:49.03 | Diao | makes it better than SoBlood? |
| 22:49.04 | Diao | o_o |
| 22:49.10 | Fisker- | Flameturrent, boombox or gizmo08/09 imo |
| 22:49.16 | Coruss | SoV is already better than SoBlood for PvE |
| 22:49.26 | Coruss | SoBlood is meant for pvp |
| 22:49.29 | Diao | eh |
| 22:49.34 | Diao | soblood is amazing for tanking |
| 22:49.37 | MoonWitch | any idea when 2.2 is going live? |
| 22:49.53 | Coruss | anything that costs you health for threat is a massive no no |
| 22:49.54 | MoonWitch | I tried it on the PTR (with a premade mage that I didn't know how to play at all LOL) |
| 22:50.04 | Coruss | as a healer I'd smack you and let you die until you smartened up |
| 22:50.18 | Diao | we've always had our pallies use it since it works well with spiritual attunement |
| 22:50.25 | Coruss | the mobs make a healers job hard enough already |
| 22:50.56 | Coruss | meh, 2.2 will still make SoV better for pve |
| 22:51.14 | Diao | lol |
| 22:51.19 | Diao | as always alliance is favored for pve :P |
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| 22:51.24 | Coruss | NeoTron: thanks for the armory link, now I know what gear to shoot for |
| 22:51.37 | Coruss | Diao: arguable, but I don't want to go there while at work |
| 22:52.01 | Diao | well aside from cow tanks which are amazing |
| 22:52.02 | Diao | ;p |
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| 22:54.35 | Coruss | :) |
| 22:55.10 | Sarana | The problem with cows is being able to get a good camera again to see what's happening while tanking. Though bears have that even worse. |
| 22:55.24 | Coruss | anyways, back to work for this poor pally |
| 22:55.28 | Coruss | thanks for the tips |
| 22:55.29 | ckknight | how's this for a FuBar icon? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Gizmo_SuperSapperCharge.png |
| 22:55.30 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:55.55 | Fisker- | disliked it because there's no bar |
| 22:55.56 | Fisker- | :( |
| 22:55.59 | Fisker- | but there's definitely a fu |
| 22:56.04 | MoonWitch | ckknight: I disembedded all libs, but uhm the ones for the Rock testing are still there.. lol |
| 22:56.15 | ckknight | testing? |
| 22:56.29 | MoonWitch | the Pitbull libs .. so rock libs.. |
| 22:56.43 | MoonWitch | since I am trying Rock, testing.. lol |
| 22:56.52 | ckknight | alright.. |
| 22:57.00 | ckknight | so the Rock libs are in your addons folder? |
| 22:57.24 | MoonWitch | nope those are still in there, I am guessing editting embeds.xml? |
| 22:57.33 | MoonWitch | (I disembedded through WAU) |
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| 23:00.35 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:00.42 | ckknight | just delete embeds.xml :-P |
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| 23:00.52 | MoonWitch | yeah I just saw that LOL |
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| 23:04.58 | MoonWitch | and that puts it at less resources used |
| 23:05.01 | MoonWitch | awesome |
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| 23:09.53 | MoonWitch | gonna tinker some more.. so afk here :P |
| 23:10.01 | CIA-22 | 03charon * r48942 10Mangler/Mangler.lua: Mangler: recolor bars when switching targets |
| 23:13.18 | the-golem_ | damn this is frightening |
| 23:13.44 | the-golem_ | some random ass person is making a fan-club guild of my toon :-/ |
| 23:13.56 | Stan__ | frightening? THIS IS SPARTAAAA |
| 23:14.11 | Fisker- | Sparta? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAA |
| 23:14.26 | Zariel | THIS IS SPAARRTAAAAAAAAAA |
| 23:14.32 | Fisker- | THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAA |
| 23:14.42 | [dRaCo] | This is JENGA! |
| 23:14.58 | Fisker- | you're ruining it [dRaCo] |
| 23:15.03 | [dRaCo] | totally. |
| 23:15.04 | Fisker- | it's sparta at all costs |
| 23:15.36 | Stan__ | or boredom |
| 23:15.39 | Stan__ | in my case |
| 23:17.49 | Kuja^ | same here |
| 23:18.08 | charon | hmm i have some questions that ought to be FAQs about translations/llocales |
| 23:18.20 | charon | is there such a faq? |
| 23:19.16 | [dRaCo] | checked the wiki? |
| 23:19.28 | charon | half-heartedly |
| 23:19.40 | [dRaCo] | there's a article on localizing an addon, iirc |
| 23:19.45 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48943 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua tests/AceDB-3.0.lua): |
| 23:19.45 | CIA-22 | Ace3: ACE-39 |
| 23:19.45 | CIA-22 | * Removed the dynamic metatable that hid unaltered ["*"] tables until they were altered due to the fact that table.insert() bypasses the metatable. |
| 23:19.45 | CIA-22 | * These tables will now need to be cleared in removeDefaults |
| 23:20.32 | charon | duh it's right in the "your first addon" tutorial |
| 23:25.40 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48944 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 23:25.40 | CIA-22 | Ace3: AceDB-39 |
| 23:25.40 | CIA-22 | * Cleaned up comments, and added a TODO: to removeDefaults |
| 23:25.53 | Sinaloit | Antiarc: yt? |
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| 23:29.28 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.31 | Antiarc | I'ze heres |
| 23:29.36 | hyperChipmunk | go away |
| 23:29.38 | aestil | ckknight: why does fubar need an icon? |
| 23:30.07 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: NO U |
| 23:30.08 | ckknight | aestil: Rock Config |
| 23:30.21 | ckknight | hey Antiarc |
| 23:30.25 | Antiarc | Heyas |
| 23:30.56 | aestil | is that like waterfall? |
| 23:31.03 | Chompers | hey ckk, Antiarc |
| 23:31.06 | Sinaloit | Antiarc: Theres a bug posted in the ThreatLib post about Shaman Elemental precision not working, thier suggested fix is to comment out line 31 (self.ElementalPrecision = 1) in the Shaman.lua, is this the right way to fix it? Also could you fix it =) |
| 23:31.10 | ckknight | aestil: yes |
| 23:31.14 | Chompers | have you seen todays mad men yet ckk? |
| 23:31.18 | ckknight | aestil: Waterfall/Niagara thing |
| 23:31.20 | ckknight | Chompers: not yet |
| 23:31.25 | Antiarc | Sinaloit: I'll check it out. Have a link for me so I don't have to go digging? |
| 23:31.37 | Sinaloit | well it was on trac, but that appears to have been nuked, sec |
| 23:31.43 | ckknight | Chompers: not on eztv yet |
| 23:32.19 | Antiarc | Elemental precision is a 4/7/10% threat reduction, yes? |
| 23:32.25 | aestil | ckknight: waterfall/niagra is built into the core framework? |
| 23:32.51 | ckknight | yep |
| 23:32.53 | ckknight | essentially |
| 23:32.57 | ckknight | it's like Waterfall |
| 23:33.00 | ckknight | looks very similar |
| 23:33.22 | aestil | that should have made tuller a happy panda. |
| 23:33.32 | ckknight | aestil: *shrug* |
| 23:33.55 | Antiarc | Sinaloit: That's not the correct solution, though. It's just an initialization. The actual ele precision setting is set in ScanTalents() in the shaman module |
| 23:34.29 | charon | Antiarc: btw, now that i've got write access, are you going to look at my patch or should i resort to vigilante justice ;) |
| 23:35.18 | Antiarc | Hahah, oh noez, threats! :D |
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| 23:35.48 | WALoeIII | Anyone know how to get a complete listing of files.wowace.com to use in conjunction iwth MacAceUpdater |
| 23:35.59 | WALoeIII | or some way to do addon updating on a mac, that doesn't require that full page? |
| 23:36.46 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r48945 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to Elemental Precision. Thanks Glith. |
| 23:36.48 | Kaelten | Antiarc: did you ever get a chance to look at that stats? |
| 23:37.11 | Antiarc | Kaelten: Not yet. I glanced over it but without the means to reproduce I'm stumped |
| 23:37.29 | Kaelten | can ou just ignore any dates that resolve to none? |
| 23:37.42 | Antiarc | The code seems that it should do that already. I think. |
| 23:37.44 | Antiarc | Let me doublecheck. |
| 23:37.51 | Kaelten | hrm |
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| 23:42.15 | aestil | ckknight: did you finish converting fubar already then? |
| 23:42.16 | Funkeh` | I need an energy ticker than doesn't suck shit |
| 23:42.42 | Funkeh` | Do I have to write my own or can someone link me a decent one? |
| 23:43.01 | aestil | one built in to pitbull powerbar. |
| 23:43.08 | aestil | i used kenergy before that. |
| 23:43.15 | aestil | i don't remember being very impressed with it though. |
| 23:44.00 | Antiarc | Kaelten: Likes 35-43 seem like they should handle that |
| 23:44.11 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 23:44.12 | Kaelten | odd |
| 23:44.20 | Bruners | stupid ISP, still cant connect to wow |
| 23:44.22 | Funkeh` | Don't use pitbull |
| 23:44.24 | *** join/#wowace fscan (n=flo@chello084112182086.1.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 23:44.27 | Antiarc | Try changing line 41 to if not rawDate or rawDate == 0 or t[0] < 2000: |
| 23:44.31 | Bruners | Funkeh`: why not ? |
| 23:44.38 | Funkeh` | I don't want to? |
| 23:44.40 | Funkeh` | lol? |
| 23:44.52 | Kaelten | major update pushed live: http://files.wowace.com/index.html |
| 23:45.00 | Diao | he meant "I don't use pitbull" :P |
| 23:45.08 | Diao | not "Don't use pitbull" as a command |
| 23:45.09 | Antiarc | Kaelten: What would my chances of getting Threat/Omen Jira projects set up be? |
| 23:45.15 | MoonWitch | OH WOW Kaelten ... |
| 23:45.15 | Kaelten | ood |
| 23:45.16 | Bruners | Diao: ok :) |
| 23:45.18 | MoonWitch | THAT I love! |
| 23:45.19 | Kaelten | er good |
| 23:45.20 | Bruners | nice Kaelten |
| 23:45.31 | Sarana | Wow. That's look's good. |
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| 23:45.36 | hyperChipmunk | oh that's beauty |
| 23:45.37 | Funkeh` | Diao: lol |
| 23:45.39 | Diao | dang |
| 23:45.40 | Diao | that looks nice |
| 23:45.41 | Diao | lol |
| 23:46.01 | [dRaCo] | n1, kaelten |
| 23:46.10 | Sole | someone post the link pls |
| 23:46.15 | Sole | I joined too late :( |
| 23:46.21 | MoonWitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.36 | hyperChipmunk | 3 addons still using AceLocale-2.0 hehe |
| 23:46.56 | MoonWitch | oh? |
| 23:46.58 | hyperChipmunk | ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_iTemFu) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.0 |
| 23:46.58 | MoonWitch | which ones? |
| 23:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.0 |
| 23:47.04 | hyperChipmunk | ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Barbrawl) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.0 |
| 23:47.07 | aestil | Kaelten: looks awesome. if you could search by first letter of addon, at the top, instead of, or in addition to the page numbers? |
| 23:47.07 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 23:47.08 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 23:47.18 | Kaelten | aestil: monday |
| 23:47.37 | aestil | sexy |
| 23:48.40 | Kaelten | only going to be on the main page though |
| 23:49.05 | Kaelten | don't think its that big a deal for the categories at this point |
| 23:50.43 | charon | Antiarc: fear the mafia. no idea if i get around to finishing it. have you had the time to _try_ it? :) |
| 23:51.19 | aestil | glancing through those catergories, i'm pretty suprised there is no strong 'guild calender' type mode available via wowace.com's many qualified developers. |
| 23:51.39 | Antiarc | charon: I keep forgetting to :/ |
| 23:51.39 | hyperChipmunk | thanks for volunteering; we look forward to your work |
| 23:51.56 | aestil | I fail at doing anything but using addons. |
| 23:52.06 | Antiarc | I did a re-checkout recently. Can you shoot me another patch link? |
| 23:52.07 | baer_ | hmm... |
| 23:52.14 | Antiarc | I'll go test it now :) |
| 23:52.15 | Kaelten | Combine was spost to be that |
| 23:52.25 | Kaelten | but the guild that was paying me quit wow |
| 23:52.30 | Kaelten | and I don't raid |
| 23:52.30 | Antiarc | Has anyone wrote a distributed DB lib yet? |
| 23:52.42 | Antiarc | written, whatever |
| 23:52.45 | Kaelten | without timestamps its almost possible |
| 23:52.49 | baer_ | Error: attempt to call global 'DisplayConsole' (a nil value) File: Interface/Addons/CCBreaker/CCBreaker.lua Line: 109 |
| 23:53.05 | baer_ | any ideas? |
| 23:53.09 | Antiarc | I've been toying with the idea of an LFG tool over a custom channel |
| 23:53.15 | Kaelten | alright I look forward to poeople yelling at me for the page |
| 23:53.20 | Kaelten | talk to you all in a bit |
| 23:53.23 | charon | Antiarc: i think i mailed you the most recent one |
| 23:53.26 | Antiarc | Kaelten: Too much blue. I demand more maroon. |
| 23:53.31 | Antiarc | Oh, that's right, thanks charon |
| 23:53.33 | Sole | Antiarc: didnt CallToArms try that but fail because nobody used it? |
| 23:53.36 | aestil | antiarc: like call to arms? |
| 23:53.41 | MoonWitch | LOL you could build in a theme switched |
| 23:53.44 | Antiarc | Oh, I remember that one |
| 23:53.45 | MoonWitch | switcher |
| 23:53.51 | Antiarc | I'm mostly wanting it for my guild alliance |
| 23:54.03 | aestil | guild alliance? |
| 23:54.13 | Antiarc | yeah, my guild is part of a four-guild superguild |
| 23:54.24 | Antiarc | We operate as one big guild, in practice |
| 23:54.50 | aestil | for progression raids on bosses and everything? how does loot distro work? |
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| 23:55.04 | Antiarc | Loot's DKP, we run two raid teams, one for the hardcore and one for the more casual |
| 23:55.05 | Mudkipz | so it's like penny arcade alliance |
| 23:55.11 | Antiarc | Similar concept, yeah. |
| 23:55.23 | Mudkipz | I hate and love being on the same realm as them |
| 23:55.30 | Mudkipz | sometimes... mostly hate |
| 23:55.43 | Antiarc | Each raid group has a separate DKP pool |
| 23:56.20 | aestil | so, you are doing like TK/SSC right now? |
| 23:57.05 | Antiarc | Yes, SSC cleared, Al'ar and VR down in TKE. We've held off on Solarian for 2.2, since we don't want to learn the fight twice |
| 23:57.21 | Antiarc | So we're just farming SSC right now, and will be dedicating to clearing TKE once 2.2 hits. |
| 23:57.30 | aestil | my guild is right there, only learning Vashj. |
| 23:57.41 | aestil | i'm impressed that any sort of guild 'alliance' works. |
| 23:57.53 | aestil | my wife got her T5 legs last night. |
| 23:58.05 | aestil | we just use a loot council with /roll most of the time. |
| 23:58.13 | Antiarc | Well, operationally, it's one big guild with four subguilds. |
| 23:58.19 | Antiarc | We've been together for a very long time |
| 23:58.26 | aestil | thats still pretty crazy. |
| 23:59.02 | Antiarc | It works out well. There's a place for hardcore, casual, PVEers, PVPers, RPers, the works. |
| 23:59.07 | Funkeh` | So kEnergy is the thing that rogues use then? |
| 23:59.13 | aestil | i used to use it funky |
| 23:59.15 | Antiarc | I just use pitbull's energy ticker module |
| 23:59.31 | aestil | stopped with pitbull, since its basically what i needed. |
| 23:59.49 | Funkeh` | I tried gonfbar but it seems it hasn't been updated in a while, I'm not in the mood for using surfacelib |
