| 00:00.16 | charon | so this warlock&feral guy i occasionally play with has decided he wants the Anzu mount |
| 00:00.22 | charon | after i don't know how many tries, he still spellbombs himself with the warlock. way to go. |
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| 00:01.16 | dreamss | Anzu? |
| 00:04.18 | Gnarfoz | spellbomb? |
| 00:04.37 | Kaelten | can someone fix these three addons for me |
| 00:04.38 | Kaelten | ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_iTemFu) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.0 |
| 00:04.38 | Kaelten | ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.0 |
| 00:04.38 | Kaelten | ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Barbrawl) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.0 |
| 00:04.51 | Kaelten | update the external to point to the tag |
| 00:10.02 | charon | umm... you guys never done this? :D |
| 00:10.25 | charon | the druid epic/swift flight form quest final step involves an extra boss in the room before Ikiss in sethekk |
| 00:10.41 | charon | can be summoned only by druid, and the tactics more or less mandate a druid (off)healing |
| 00:11.04 | charon | does a curse called Spellbomb, if you cast while it's on you'll lose a few thousand HP |
| 00:11.46 | charon | after the quest, we druids then get a summoning item that lasts forever. 3 badge sethekk ftw |
| 00:13.22 | Ashy | Spellbomb is decursable by your friendly neighborhood mages. |
| 00:14.22 | Ashy | Who, when me, will be obsessively watching if you're bombed because we don't trust you as far as we can throw you to remember to stopcasting. |
| 00:14.59 | charon | well, as they say, two l2ps don't make a hardcore raider, or what was that again |
| 00:15.15 | charon | (there was a mage. neither the lock nor the mage cared about the lock's debuffs. go figure) |
| 00:15.32 | Ashy | Well, char, if you decide to run it on cenarion circle i'll gladly go |
| 00:15.38 | Ashy | I'm slightly obsessed with the staff drop. |
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| 00:16.04 | charon | :) |
| 00:16.10 | charon | Antonidas, i'm afraid |
| 00:16.19 | Ashy | bummer. |
| 00:16.25 | Ashy | *hacks a server transfer* ;) |
| 00:16.31 | charon | heh |
| 00:16.49 | charon | i've seen the thing twice, and i keep going there for whatever reasons :( |
| 00:16.55 | charon | lately, for an owl friend with the same affliction |
| 00:17.20 | Ashy | You've seen the staff twice, or the mount? |
| 00:17.28 | charon | the staff. the mount, never |
| 00:17.54 | Ashy | I've only wiped on the druid boss *once*. *ever*. |
| 00:18.27 | Ashy | I thought he was cake before that. I <3s me some good heals and tanks. |
| 00:19.00 | xyu | sdf |
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| 00:20.21 | charon | Ashy: wtb extra-hard heroic mode |
| 00:20.48 | Ashy | charon: simple, get a semi-ok tank and a healer who doesn't know how to cleanse debuffs. |
| 00:20.54 | Ashy | Sold. XD |
| 00:21.48 | Ashy | "omg! Everyone keeps getting stuck in the air!" "Healadin.. you DO know that's cleansable?" "... no." *seventh attempt* *clear* *grumble* |
| 00:22.00 | charon | :-/ |
| 00:23.18 | Ashy | I was told that pugging things would make me a better player, and to stop grumbling and asking for help in guild chat. |
| 00:23.23 | Ashy | I quit that guild. lol. |
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| 00:24.29 | charon | dunno. i have to say, i have little feelings for guildies who can't even be bothered to do their (normal) rep runs in pugs |
| 00:25.04 | charon | or put another way, if _they_ could be arsed to put in 2-3h of effort for one shattered halls semi successful run, i might feel more inclined to tank the next one |
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| 00:25.42 | Ashy | oh, i pugged all the way through regulars. |
| 00:25.49 | Ashy | I was getting annoyed when I couldn't get help for heroics. |
| 00:25.51 | Ashy | Ever. |
| 00:26.09 | ulic | what good is a guild if it won't do instance runs? |
| 00:26.12 | dreamss | i hate ppl who spam g chat like if it was /lfg |
| 00:26.22 | ulic | well that's true. |
| 00:26.30 | Ashy | If I always go for you, I expect you to get off your ass and go for me. |
| 00:26.30 | charon | huh. that sucks. mage has to be one of the best classes for most instances... |
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| 00:28.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48655 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: |
| 00:28.44 | CIA-22 | .AceComm-2.0 - some optimizations |
| 00:28.44 | CIA-22 | - bugfix for sending serialized tables (fringe case) |
| 00:28.44 | CIA-22 | - add ability to send sets efficiently. (Doesn't take place until WoW 2.2) |
| 00:29.26 | charon | Ashy: at the risk of stating the obvious, try putting together groups first, then figure out the instance later |
| 00:29.43 | charon | the other way around never worked for me |
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| 00:30.27 | Wobin_ | that doesn't work for pugs =P |
| 00:30.51 | charon | no but he was asking about guild groups |
| 00:30.54 | ulic | I find it doesn't in my guild either, people usually have a 2-3 instance list of places they'd like to go. |
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| 00:40.34 | charon | oh well. good night, or whatever works in your timezone |
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| 00:51.31 | Ashy^ | Okay, I changed the background and now I'm getting a pretty new background window, can't see the text, and still getting an error. |
| 00:51.32 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock * r48656 10/branches/Hourglass2/: Created folder remotely |
| 00:52.58 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r48657 10Hourglass2/: Created folder remotely -- to prep for branching to test and eventual push to trunk |
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| 00:53.33 | Ashy^ | http://ace.pastey.net/73736 |
| 00:53.36 | orionshock | hehe.. oops... :\ |
| 00:53.42 | Ashy^ | If you would please look and tell me what you think. <3 |
| 00:55.46 | orionshock | ahh.. how do u have tortoiseSVN use auto props? |
| 00:56.51 | kebinusan | fhmm my buddy has a macro with a shift modifier that doesnt work on number keys but does work on letter keys any ideas |
| 00:57.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48658 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua: LibSharedMedia-2.0 - add :RegisterCallback and :UnregisterCallback, thus duplicating what a messaging library could do better, but that's not "allowed" in framework-agnostic libraries. |
| 00:58.47 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r48659 10Hourglass2/Hourglass2/: Last folder i swear |
| 01:01.55 | Gnarfoz | kebinusan: he's got the shifted number keys bound to something else |
| 01:02.08 | Gnarfoz | the macro won't catch then, the game will just redirect the button press to whatever the key is bound to |
| 01:02.25 | Ashy^ | Okay. Grr. Cellular is now opening a window, but it's a blank window with the background, and it's opening a new window for every message sent and received, even to/from the same person. |
| 01:02.41 | Ashy^ | Is there a way I can just force it to go back to defaults? |
| 01:02.51 | Ashy^ | Without clean-installing my whole UI? :) |
| 01:04.18 | orionshock | deep6 the SV file for it in your account and toon settings |
| 01:05.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48660 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: .SharedMedia-1.0 - steal LibSharedMedia-2.0's textures, using :RegisterCallback to keep track. |
| 01:09.12 | ckknight | hope nobody minds, but I'm going to make the SharedMedia addon use LibSharedMedia-2.0 now |
| 01:09.26 | ckknight | since 1.0 and 2.0 shares data, it shouldn't affect anything. |
| 01:10.08 | ckknight | share* |
| 01:14.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48661 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: .SharedMedia-1.0 - bugfix due to the weird nature of AceEvent-2.0 being used. |
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| 01:18.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48662 10SharedMedia/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:18.17 | CIA-22 | SharedMedia - convert to use LibSharedMedia-2.0 instead of SharedMedia-1.0. They both share data within each other, so no real difference should be noticed. |
| 01:18.17 | CIA-22 | - Remove all Ace2 dependencies, only rely on LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
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| 01:22.20 | buddapeople | #anapnea |
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| 01:22.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48663 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 01:22.55 | CIA-22 | PitBull - change to LibRockDB-1.0 (preserving namespace methods, for non-converted modules) and LibRockComm-1.0 |
| 01:22.55 | CIA-22 | - upgrade to LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 01:22.55 | CIA-22 | - upgrade to LibBabble-Zone-3.0 |
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| 01:25.54 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48664 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - use Rock's recycling functions instead of manual. |
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| 01:34.03 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48665 10Parrot/Parrot/Data/ (CombatEvents.lua TriggerConditions.lua): Parrot - fix naming error. |
| 01:35.54 | CIA-22 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r48666 10Hourglass2/Hourglass2/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:35.54 | CIA-22 | Hourglass2: |
| 01:35.54 | CIA-22 | -Inital Import; set externals |
| 01:36.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48667 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - bugfix with :UpdateAllForUnit |
| 01:36.39 | orionshock | YAY - ckknight your converting over pit bull :D |
| 01:36.45 | ckknight | sure am |
| 01:37.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48668 10PitBull/PitBull/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: PitBull_HealthBar - remove some old stuff that's unneeded, upgrade to Rock |
| 01:37.50 | RogueShadow | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.16 | orionshock | now to test Hourglass2 for sanity :D |
| 01:38.17 | RogueShadow | Do you have any expected benefits from switching it over besides seeing how it works. |
| 01:38.50 | ckknight | better configuration |
| 01:39.01 | ckknight | also (for me) finding any bugs in the system |
| 01:39.02 | RogueShadow | that's always good |
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| 01:40.14 | kebinusan | orionshock: Have you seen the cooldown bar in the forte warlock mod? |
| 01:40.28 | orionshock | nope; then again im not a lock |
| 01:41.35 | kebinusan | its basically one bar that has marks for say 30s 60s 5m 10m 30m 60m (its scalable too) then all the different cooldowns are overlayed onto one bar with their icons being the spark.. lemme find a pic |
| 01:42.31 | JoshBorke | kebinusan: how well does that work out in practice? |
| 01:42.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48669 10PitBull/PitBull/ (PitBull_MetaLayout.lua PowerBar/PowerBar.lua): |
| 01:42.43 | CIA-22 | PitBull_PowerBar - remove some old stuff, upgrade to Rock |
| 01:42.43 | CIA-22 | - upgrade MetaLayout recycling functions to Rock |
| 01:42.45 | kebinusan | I like it quite well actually |
| 01:43.00 | kebinusan | http://www.fortegaming.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=31 |
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| 01:43.03 | JoshBorke | i think a screenshot will help immensely |
| 01:43.08 | ckknight | what's great about converting now, unlike before, is that I can do it a little bit at a time, instead of all at once |
| 01:43.38 | kebinusan | http://www.fortegaming.com/forums/uploads/8_cooldown.jpg thats the actual screenshot |
| 01:44.02 | JoshBorke | ok, i see |
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| 01:44.15 | kenlyric | mmmm, so like dottimer? |
| 01:44.46 | orionshock | interesting kebinusan |
| 01:44.58 | JoshBorke | ckknight: how do you handle that? |
| 01:47.40 | ckknight | JoshBorke: with magic |
| 01:47.45 | ckknight | and supporting Ace2 mixins with Rock |
| 01:47.50 | ckknight | so you can do it one mixin at a time |
| 01:48.01 | ckknight | or not at all |
| 01:48.04 | ckknight | whatever floats your boat. |
| 01:48.20 | orionshock | trac donw? |
| 01:48.25 | ckknight | yes |
| 01:48.31 | ckknight | forever |
| 01:48.35 | orionshock | :( |
| 01:48.45 | ckknight | what? |
| 01:48.48 | ckknight | you were told about this |
| 01:49.03 | JoshBorke | ckknight: oh, btw. i noticed some code in LibRock, __removeLibrary. what is the purpose of: local lastCount repeat lastCount = collectgarbage('count') collectgarbage('collect') until lastCount == collectgarbage('count')? |
| 01:49.37 | ckknight | JoshBorke: sometimes a full garbage collection doesn't catch references that are referred to by weak objects |
| 01:49.42 | ckknight | i.e. if it acts in a tree manner |
| 01:49.50 | ckknight | it's a bit weird |
| 01:49.53 | ckknight | and a fringe case |
| 01:49.56 | ckknight | but it happens with libraries |
| 01:50.02 | ckknight | and the __removeLibrary thing is for unit testing |
| 01:50.27 | Shirik | that sounds... very strange |
| 01:50.32 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 01:50.36 | Shirik | you want it to loop, collecting garbage |
| 01:50.38 | Shirik | unti... oh |
| 01:50.39 | Shirik | nm |
| 01:50.40 | Shirik | I got it |
| 01:50.41 | ckknight | I tried to figure it out, but then got distracted |
| 01:51.10 | ckknight | oh yea, I remember |
| 01:51.19 | ckknight | if you have a table that has strong references in it |
| 01:51.25 | ckknight | but that table is only held weakly |
| 01:51.34 | ckknight | then the first time GC happens, that table goes away |
| 01:51.48 | ckknight | but the second time, the strong references inside of it (now gone) will go away |
| 01:52.10 | JoshBorke | i see you're requiring all rock libraries to begin with Lib |
| 01:52.24 | ckknight | yep, to standardize things |
| 01:52.40 | JoshBorke | and by things you mean Rock libs? |
| 01:52.46 | ckknight | sure do |
| 01:53.04 | RogueShadow | standards are a good thing. |
| 01:53.11 | ckknight | the overall plan is to keep the whole system consistent with itself |
| 01:53.25 | ckknight | so major versions start with Lib, addons don't start with Lib |
| 01:53.31 | RogueShadow | Standards are what make modern technology possible. |
| 01:53.33 | ckknight | folder names are equivalent to the major version |
| 01:53.38 | JoshBorke | ckknight: why do you do local previous = not not LibStub:GetLibrary()? is there any reason you need it to be a boolean? |
| 01:53.59 | Shirik | that's an interesting way to force a boolean |
| 01:54.06 | orionshock | ... i broke something... |
| 01:54.20 | ckknight | I probably don't _need_ it to be a boolean, but why keep a reference to the table I'm not going to use? |
| 01:54.25 | Shirik | I'm microoptimizing here, but LibStub:GetLibrary() and true or false" |
| 01:54.28 | Shirik | would be faster |
| 01:54.33 | ckknight | no it wouldn't be |
| 01:54.34 | ckknight | I've tested. |
| 01:54.40 | ckknight | not not is the fastest way to get a toboolean |
| 01:54.51 | ckknight | try it out |
| 01:54.55 | ckknight | I was surprised too |
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| 01:54.56 | JoshBorke | why do you even check for previous? |
| 01:54.58 | Shirik | then you should have tested wrong, because LibStub:GetLibrary() and true or false gets to skip an operation |
| 01:54.59 | Shirik | but I will |
| 01:55.08 | ckknight | JoshBorke: lemme see, where are you looking at? |
| 01:55.20 | JoshBorke | ckknight: isn't the idea for LibStub:NewLibrary() returning oldminor so you can check if it was there before? |
| 01:55.26 | Shirik | oh right, I can't test it |
| 01:55.33 | Shirik | because apparently AMD does not support the debug timers |
| 01:55.42 | JoshBorke | Shirik: but i bet cladbot can |
| 01:55.51 | ckknight | JoshBorke: I guess you're right. |
| 01:56.04 | JoshBorke | if not oldminor then -- no previous version |
| 01:56.42 | JoshBorke | lua> function t() return nil end; y, z = t(); print(type(z)) |
| 01:56.43 | cladbot | JoshBorke: nil |
| 01:56.49 | JoshBorke | lua> function t() return end; y, z = t(); print(type(z)) |
| 01:56.49 | cladbot | JoshBorke: nil |
| 01:56.52 | JoshBorke | lua> function t() return end; y, z = t(); print(type(y)) |
| 01:56.53 | cladbot | JoshBorke: nil |
| 01:57.05 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48670 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - optimization (thanks, JoshBorke) |
| 01:57.07 | JoshBorke | ckknight: btw, i'm just glancing over, i stopped in LibRock |
| 01:57.10 | Shirik | cladbothas no debug timers either |
| 01:57.17 | Shirik | but I shall find a way |
| 01:57.25 | JoshBorke | bah, NewLibrary i mean |
| 01:57.43 | ckknight | JoshBorke: either way, I fixed it |
| 01:57.45 | JoshBorke | because i was trying to find out why you check for the existence of Rock and then call rock:NewLibrary instead of LibStub:NewLibrary |
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| 01:59.17 | Shirik | gahhhh |
| 01:59.20 | ckknight | JoshBorke: oh, it's because Rock's :NewLibrary does more, basically |
| 01:59.21 | Shirik | so wish I had VxWorks right now |
| 01:59.21 | JoshBorke | so when you update a Rock library you pretty much create a new table (for all intense purposes). |
| 01:59.26 | JoshBorke | ckknight: yea, i see that |
| 01:59.34 | stavmar | hey i had a question, what is teh script command to turn on an ace mod? |
| 01:59.43 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.46 | ckknight | yea, I do, because the old lib's fields don't just stay put, unlike LibStub's way |
| 02:00.52 | Shirik | ckknight: So I concede, it definitely is faster |
| 02:00.58 | stavmar | orion thank you |
| 02:01.00 | ckknight | yep |
| 02:01.14 | JoshBorke | what does collectgarbage('collect') do exactly? |
| 02:01.32 | Shirik | I know the number of transistors required to build a NOT circuit is half of an AND circuit, but really that should be irrelevant |
| 02:01.38 | Shirik | since there's a lot more that needs to go on |
| 02:01.59 | Shirik | maybe there's some optimization |
| 02:02.08 | TNSe | lua> function moo(x) return x+2; end; print(moo(0)); |
| 02:02.08 | cladbot | TNSe: 2 |
| 02:02.10 | TNSe | OMG |
| 02:02.10 | orionshock | hey .. ckknight ... new version of cow tip ain't working... no errors tho >.> |
| 02:02.11 | TNSe | IT WORKS |
| 02:02.16 | sylvanaar | what? dont they make nands anyways |
| 02:02.27 | ckknight | orionshock: how is it not working? |
| 02:02.33 | JoshBorke | sylv is right, they never use AND gates ;-P |
| 02:02.38 | orionshock | tooltips just ain't there |
| 02:02.38 | JoshBorke | dumb fuck |
| 02:02.39 | Shirik | yeah well you can build a NOT circuit with 1 transistor |
| 02:02.49 | orionshock | only getting defaults |
| 02:02.50 | JoshBorke | wow, that was mean of me |
| 02:02.59 | Shirik | you... can't get any less |
| 02:03.24 | JoshBorke | either way it doesn't play a part in the discussion |
| 02:03.48 | orionshock | you got any /dump tests i can do to figure this one out? |
| 02:03.49 | Ashy^ | "deep6 the SV file for it in your account and toon settings" --> will deleting cellular.lua and cellular.lua.bak do that? |
| 02:03.59 | Ashy^ | (Yeah, I was watching tv. shoot me. XD) |
| 02:04.26 | TNSe | lua> function moo(x) return x+2; end; z, x = moo(3); print(z); |
| 02:04.26 | cladbot | TNSe: 5 |
| 02:04.32 | TNSe | lua> function moo(x) return x+2; end; z, x = moo(3); print(x); |
| 02:04.32 | cladbot | TNSe: nil |
| 02:04.45 | orionshock | Ashy^: ya, in your /<Account>/savedvariables & /<Account>/realm/toon/savedvariables |
| 02:04.49 | TNSe | lua> function moo(x) return {x+2; x+5}; end; z, x = moo(3); print(x); |
| 02:04.50 | cladbot | TNSe: nil |
| 02:04.56 | TNSe | I don't think I get lua |
| 02:05.15 | sylvanaar | who are you talking to anyways |
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| 02:07.20 | Shirik | TNSe: x was never given anything |
| 02:07.24 | Shirik | z,x = moo(3) |
| 02:07.34 | Shirik | moo(3) returned {5,8} |
| 02:07.34 | TNSe | hee |
| 02:07.39 | Shirik | so.... z = {5,8} |
| 02:07.41 | TNSe | ah |
| 02:07.41 | Shirik | x is nothing |
| 02:07.49 | TNSe | I took a random guess |
| 02:07.52 | TNSe | I have done 0 lua coding so far |
| 02:07.59 | TNSe | only more conventional languages :P |
| 02:08.00 | ckknight | lua> functon moo(x) return x+2, x+5 end; z, x = moo(3); print(x) |
| 02:08.00 | cladbot | ckknight: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "functon moo(x) return x+2, x+5 end; z, x = moo(3); print(x)"]:1: '=' expected near 'moo' |
| 02:08.08 | TNSe | >_< |
| 02:08.40 | ckknight | lua> function moo(x) return x+2, x+5 end; z, x = moo(3); print(x) |
| 02:08.40 | cladbot | ckknight: 8 |
| 02:09.20 | JoshBorke | ckknight: why did you choose ipairs over for i=1,#t? |
| 02:09.39 | ckknight | where? |
| 02:09.46 | Shirik | it's faster |
| 02:09.46 | JoshBorke | in LibRock |
| 02:09.48 | ckknight | ipairs can be faster |
| 02:09.51 | JoshBorke | Shirik: did you test? |
| 02:09.54 | Shirik | it will be |
| 02:10.00 | JoshBorke | join #luabot |
| 02:10.22 | Garoun|Loupana | BTW todays update still doesn't let Vista64 select your wow folder by using the Browse button, granted it may be how my permissions are set also :/ |
| 02:10.25 | Ashy^ | orionshock: eugh, still getting the same thing happening. I think I'm going to have to trash my wtf folder. |
| 02:10.40 | orionshock | trash your layout-cahce.txt |
| 02:10.44 | orionshock | *cache |
| 02:10.51 | sylvanaar | the browse button may or maynot work ever |
| 02:10.56 | Garoun|Loupana | :P |
| 02:11.02 | Garoun|Loupana | it's ok typing it manually worked ok |
| 02:11.09 | Ashy^ | That's better than trashing everything. :D |
| 02:11.13 | Ashy^ | *reloads wow* |
| 02:11.15 | sylvanaar | its not compatible with 64bit windows |
| 02:11.17 | Garoun|Loupana | it works, it just doesn't save the selected folder |
| 02:11.31 | FrostByghte | lol....for a few seconds I'm trying to figure out wtf 'Blessing of Demonstration' is with Elkbuffbars |
| 02:12.05 | sylvanaar | you just put it in once and you are done, no> |
| 02:12.11 | sylvanaar | ? |
| 02:12.21 | Garoun|Loupana | for some reason every update is resetting my config |
| 02:12.34 | Garoun|Loupana | again, not a big deal just a minor nuisance :) |
| 02:12.35 | orionshock | sv file is locked ... |
| 02:13.01 | Garoun|Loupana | other then that everything saves and works fine |
| 02:13.15 | sylvanaar | when was your config reset? |
| 02:13.20 | sylvanaar | this am? |
| 02:13.29 | Garoun|Loupana | about 3min ago, first time I loaded tonight |
| 02:13.42 | sylvanaar | idk then in that case. |
| 02:13.48 | orionshock | the blessing of demonstration is to show you what the bar looks like btw :P |
| 02:14.01 | Garoun|Loupana | It was a freak incident on my XP install, only happened sometimes |
| 02:14.13 | Garoun|Loupana | will say one thing, <3 my WD Raptor drive |
| 02:14.21 | sylvanaar | they are noisy |
| 02:14.39 | Garoun|Loupana | no more noisy then the fan we have sitting in our pc room |
| 02:15.02 | sylvanaar | i just pulled the plug on 3 of em today |
| 02:15.10 | Garoun|Loupana | I'll take a little hum for the speed on it |
| 02:16.03 | sylvanaar | and put in an 800watt psu, my machine is silent, event the case fans are spun down |
| 02:16.12 | Ashy^ | That didn't do it either!!! |
| 02:16.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48671 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add a check to :GetRecyclingFunctions to not give improper namespaces. |
| 02:16.27 | orionshock | ok deep6 your wtf file |
| 02:16.33 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah my g/fs new rig I just build her is dead silent :) |
| 02:16.35 | orionshock | if that don't work.. well ur screwed |
| 02:16.53 | Ashy^ | If that doesn't work, I'm going to have to reinstall warcraft. |
| 02:16.54 | orionshock | :D |
| 02:16.55 | Ashy^ | :D |
| 02:17.12 | Ashy^ | And would it be ok for me to grab another WTF from the All Deuce UI? |
| 02:17.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48672 10PitBull/PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 02:17.48 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Aura - upgrade to Rock. |
| 02:17.48 | CIA-22 | - Note: I still plan to use AltAura instead of this. |
| 02:17.50 | sylvanaar | its the psu, er 850 watts, my last one was rated 675, and it was bottoming out when the gpu went full screen |
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| 02:20.13 | Garoun|Loupana | that sucks, I have a 650 Corsair in hers |
| 02:20.31 | stavmar | what is the Main Assist comman to show the boxes, my colleague does not use fubar and cannot see the mini map icon? |
| 02:20.59 | Garoun|Loupana | try /ma show ? no idea :( |
| 02:21.25 | stavmar | I think that is a blizzard command |
| 02:21.31 | orionshock | everyone uses fubar... ask him what's wrong with him |
| 02:21.48 | Gngsk | titan panel for life |
| 02:22.05 | orionshock | ew.... titanpannle |
| 02:22.13 | Recluse | titan? o.O do they even still make that? |
| 02:22.19 | Gngsk | ... |
| 02:22.20 | orionshock | lol |
| 02:22.23 | Cidan | lol |
| 02:22.25 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: you have quad video? |
| 02:22.26 | orionshock | titain? |
| 02:22.27 | Recluse | :p |
| 02:22.40 | kenlyric | 600 should be enough for 1 cpu and 2 gpu. |
| 02:22.41 | sylvanaar | quad video? no |
| 02:23.01 | orionshock | hehe... trying to do daily and everyone is taking my fkin escort quest. |
| 02:23.04 | Cidan | they do still make it |
| 02:23.13 | Cidan | Last updated 2 months ago -- which is fine. |
| 02:23.21 | kenlyric | just throw invites at anyone near it. |
| 02:23.36 | sylvanaar | it should be, but like i said the last one wasnt |
| 02:24.12 | Recluse | i'm just playing - it's just that i haven't heard of anyone using titan since months before expansion released |
| 02:24.21 | kenlyric | Recluse: turns out they make all the mods I dropped at 2.0.1 |
| 02:24.25 | kenlyric | just took them too long. |
| 02:24.28 | orionshock | kenlyric can't .. they stat it usualy b/f i get there |
| 02:24.46 | kenlyric | i find te rear one is farmed less. |
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| 02:26.29 | Ashy^ | Ew. My whole wtf folder. *cry* |
| 02:27.18 | Ashy^ | Well, Cellular has been saved, now I just need to rearrange everything. |
| 02:27.24 | Ashy^ | Thank you for your advice, everyone. |
| 02:27.40 | sylvanaar | im getting new patch data |
| 02:27.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48673 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - bugfix to IsEventRegistered |
| 02:28.11 | kenlyric | so say we all |
| 02:28.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48674 10BanzaiLib/Banzai-1.1/Banzai-1.1.lua: .Banzai-1.1 - fix upgrading error |
| 02:29.25 | sylvanaar | 2.2 patch lol |
| 02:29.27 | orionshock | as for the patch.. i just hope they don't go off and protect the "ReportPlayersIsPVPAFK()" function... that would suck |
| 02:29.55 | sylvanaar | what a bunch of crap |
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| 02:30.26 | Recluse | planning on auto-afkflagging all bg players upon entry? XD |
| 02:30.38 | ckknight | really, they should be. |
| 02:30.39 | orionshock | hehe... |
| 02:30.44 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 02:31.07 | Wobin_ | mouseover report =) |
| 02:31.13 | orionshock | well.. there is a nice macro you can use to do it |
| 02:31.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48675 10PitBull/PitBull/Banzai/Banzai.lua: PitBull_Banzai - upgrade to Rock (still uses Ace2-based Banzai-1.1) |
| 02:31.32 | orionshock | and it's gona cover like 80% of all the afk'ers |
| 02:31.35 | Wobin_ | I think mouseover would be cool =P |
| 02:31.47 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:31.57 | Shirik | ReportPlayerIsPVPAFK(UnitName"mouseover") |
| 02:32.00 | Shirik | macro |
| 02:32.07 | orionshock | there wego |
| 02:32.16 | JoshBorke | ckknight: in runMainAddonLoadedChunk of LibRock, i suggest changing the first line to: local pendingAddons, tmp = newList(), pendingAddons |
| 02:32.26 | JoshBorke | ckknight: this way you can eliminate populating the tmp table |
| 02:32.27 | Shirik | or for x = 1, GetNumRaidMembers() do ReportPlayerIsPVPAFK(UnitName("raid"..x)) |
| 02:32.29 | Shirik | end |
| 02:32.34 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:32.36 | ckknight | touche, JoshBorke |
| 02:32.38 | ckknight | touche. |
| 02:32.54 | JoshBorke | i also recommend checking for name outside of the for olop |
| 02:33.07 | JoshBorke | but i'm assuming the table will be small, so the timing difference neglible |
| 02:33.22 | JoshBorke | *is negligible |
| 02:33.26 | JoshBorke | fuck i can't spell |
| 02:33.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48676 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - optimization in runMainAddonLoadedChunk (thanks, JoshBorke) |
| 02:33.51 | orionshock | Shirik: mine is "/run local n,hK,f,c,dD,hD;for i=1,80 do n,_,hK,_,_,f,_,_,c,_,dD,hD=GetBattlefieldScore(i);if f==1 then t=(hK+dD+hD);if t<1 then ReportPlayerIsPVPAFK(n) end end end " |
| 02:33.52 | ckknight | it'll be at most probably a size of 20 |
| 02:34.01 | ckknight | it depends on how much a single addon has modules |
| 02:34.02 | orionshock | slightly more complicated .. but it works :D |
| 02:34.03 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 02:34.06 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 02:34.20 | Shirik | orionshock: What if I just joined :( |
| 02:34.31 | orionshock | gtfo out of the cave |
| 02:34.34 | JoshBorke | you also get the added benefit of changing the scope of pendingAddons to be more local :-D |
| 02:34.43 | Shirik | what if I joined 3 seconds ago? |
| 02:34.47 | JoshBorke | eliminating the upvalue call |
| 02:34.59 | orionshock | in order for that to be a viable issue - everyone in the bg would have to hit the macro at the same time... |
| 02:35.15 | orionshock | and even so, the moment you engage in pvp combat it goes away |
| 02:35.25 | orionshock | basicly it |
| 02:35.30 | orionshock | it's a non-issue |
| 02:35.38 | Shirik | you know |
| 02:35.56 | Shirik | Throwing a bug out because "It will happen in only the rarest of cases" is one of the leading causes of security flaws :) |
| 02:36.02 | Shirik | Not that this is one, just saying :P |
| 02:36.08 | orionshock | hehe |
| 02:36.32 | sylvanaar | Name, Server = UnitName("raid" .. i), does ReportPlayerIsPVPAFK() take an unqualified name? |
| 02:36.36 | ckknight | JoshBorke: oh hell, that fucks things up |
| 02:36.37 | ckknight | dammit |
| 02:36.45 | JoshBorke | way to test ckknight :-P |
| 02:36.51 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:36.57 | ckknight | I thought you had thought of this |
| 02:37.01 | ckknight | I'm working on other stuff |
| 02:37.09 | JoshBorke | of course not, i don't think about things |
| 02:37.15 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:37.17 | JoshBorke | what exactly does it break? |
| 02:37.22 | orionshock | sylvanaar: considering i found that in the .. Social Raid frame file .. and that window has server names.. i don't think it cares |
| 02:37.32 | JoshBorke | oh, i know |
| 02:37.39 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 02:37.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48677 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - bugfix |
| 02:37.47 | Shirik | sylvanaar: no clue |
| 02:37.54 | JoshBorke | just drop the local |
| 02:37.57 | Shirik | I have no idea how the function works |
| 02:38.00 | Shirik | I just made that code up |
| 02:38.17 | sylvanaar | oh getbattlefieldscore returns name-server |
| 02:38.48 | JoshBorke | ok, that's enough code reading for me |
| 02:38.55 | JoshBorke | i made it through like 20 lines and i'm spent |
| 02:39.32 | JoshBorke | sorry, smoking will kill you |
| 02:39.35 | JoshBorke | i'll take a BJ though |
| 02:39.45 | Wobin_ | Those can kill you too |
| 02:39.55 | sylvanaar | beat me to it |
| 02:40.06 | Kaydeethree | that'd be a good way to go, though |
| 02:40.15 | Ashy^ | So, does anyone know of something that can tell the map it's a square and not to put the minimap icons in a (ew) circle? |
| 02:41.43 | orionshock | Ashy^: yes |
| 02:41.44 | sylvanaar | im sure there is something on the svn that can put em it triangles stars and octagons |
| 02:41.58 | Paradox_ | anyone use Squeenix? |
| 02:42.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48678 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - small optimization |
| 02:42.16 | orionshock | <simple mini map |
| 02:42.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48679 10PitBull/PitBull/BarFader/BarFader.lua: PitBull_BarFader - upgrade to Rock |
| 02:42.53 | JoshBorke | ZOMG?! YOU TOUCHED BARFADER!!! |
| 02:42.54 | JoshBorke | j/k |
| 02:43.33 | JoshBorke | ckknight: you seriously just put a form of gct into Rock? |
| 02:43.33 | Garoun|Loupana | Sylvanaar, is there something to make them magically delicious as well? :) |
| 02:43.33 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 02:43.55 | ckknight | JoshBorke: I'll likely remove it in an hour, I'm just trying to test something |
| 02:44.17 | JoshBorke | why not just install gct? why commit it to the svn? why not put it in a small mod? |
| 02:44.19 | Ashy^ | Lastly, 2007/09/11 21:22:28-158-x79]: ClearFont-2.1\ClearFont.lua:331: attempt to call method 'ApplySystemFonts' (a nil value) --- |
| 02:44.25 | ckknight | probably should. |
| 02:44.26 | Ashy^ | How do I fix that? :D |
| 02:44.36 | JoshBorke | i mean, do you commit every write? |
| 02:44.41 | ckknight | mostly. |
| 02:44.49 | orionshock | Ashy^: uninstall ClearFont1 and use ClearFont2 |
| 02:44.52 | hyperChipmunk | hey, that's a good idea |
| 02:45.04 | Kirkburn | wth is ClearFont-2.1? |
| 02:45.05 | JoshBorke | ~whalelart hyperChipmunk |
| 02:45.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48680 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - revert last commit |
| 02:45.12 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 02:45.14 | JoshBorke | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
| 02:45.14 | purl | beats hyperChipmunk to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 02:45.22 | hyperChipmunk | i need to change :w in vim to do svn commit |
| 02:45.28 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:46.01 | Ashy^ | orionshock: Heading that way, got it. |
| 02:46.23 | Kaydeethree | vim! <3 |
| 02:46.59 | Recluse | if you do a string.format("some string", "data") but the first string has no %s, etc, does an error proc? |
| 02:47.42 | sylvanaar | i think no - but why not test it |
| 02:48.07 | ckknight | no, Recluse |
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| 02:48.14 | ulic | just tried in game with /print and it just returned "some string" |
| 02:48.14 | ckknight | I also prefer colon syntax |
| 02:48.20 | ckknight | ("some string"):format("data") |
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| 02:48.49 | Recluse | silent fail then, hooray |
| 02:49.01 | Shirik | imho |
| 02:49.02 | Shirik | should do |
| 02:49.05 | Thrae | Recluse: 23:00 [msg(cladbot)] lua> string.format("some string", "data") 23:00 [Wowfreenode] [cladbot(n=cladbot@cpe-74-79-41-65.twcny.res.rr.com)] Thrae: some string, |
| 02:49.18 | Shirik | ("some string").format("some other string") |
| 02:49.20 | Seerah_ | evening ladies and gents :) |
| 02:49.23 | Shirik | just to screw with someone's head |
| 02:49.42 | JoshBorke | what does collectgarbage('collect') do? collect all collectable garbage? |
| 02:49.46 | Shirik | lua> ("some %s string").format("some string %s", "Rawr!") |
| 02:49.46 | cladbot | Shirik: some string Rawr!, |
| 02:49.47 | sylvanaar | ("some string").format("some string") |
| 02:49.47 | Seerah_ | yes |
| 02:49.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48681 10PitBull/PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull_CastBar - upgrade to Rock |
| 02:49.51 | Recluse | lol |
| 02:50.00 | sylvanaar | with a colon |
| 02:50.03 | Shirik | no |
| 02:50.05 | Shirik | with a dot |
| 02:50.24 | Shirik | the jacked up nature of that statement is intentional :) |
| 02:50.25 | Recluse | i just wasn't sure if i needed to string.find a %s in the first string before attempting to combine |
| 02:50.31 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 02:50.32 | Mikk | btw given local fmt=string.format, fmt("%s","blah") is 15% faster than ("%s"):format("blah") |
| 02:50.48 | Seerah_ | could someone tell me if I'm the only one getting errors when attempting to upload files to the wiki? |
| 02:51.13 | Recluse | seerah_: i am unable to upload to wowace wiki as well |
| 02:51.30 | Thrae | Mikk: I know I man that likes to use func"foo" and ("string"):format() just to obsfucate :D |
| 02:51.33 | JoshBorke | ckknight: is it a good idea to run collectgarbage('collect') whenever you load a new addon? what about an addon being loaded after 25-50 MB of garbage had been accrued? |
| 02:51.44 | Seerah_ | it says something about a file or directory being missing |
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| 02:52.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | so i've updated atlas and updated all my ace mods but i still get a ver conflict with atlasloot |
| 02:52.17 | ckknight | JoshBorke: frankly, it solves more issues than it creates. Also, it doesn't happen often (not like I'm calling every minute or so). |
| 02:52.39 | JoshBorke | ckknight: ok. i don't know what the issues involved are so i cannot qualify your statement |
| 02:53.06 | Shirik | Thrae: I still think something like someString.format(someOtherString, params) |
| 02:53.12 | Shirik | would be the best way to mess with stuff :D |
| 02:53.20 | ckknight | Basically, in the event that garbage is created on the initial load, it'll be released immediately, getting you to a clean slate |
| 02:53.53 | Seerah_ | guess I'll finish up the eePanels2 wiki until I find someone to poke with a stick ;) |
| 02:54.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48682 10PitBull/PitBull/CombatFader/CombatFader.lua: PitBull_CombatFader - upgrade to Rock |
| 02:55.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48683 10PitBull/PitBull/CombatFader/CombatFader.lua: PitBull_CombatFader - whoops, typo |
| 02:55.51 | Seerah_ | ckknight: tsk tsk ;) |
| 02:56.00 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:56.21 | Seerah_ | >.< |
| 02:56.38 | ckknight | ( º Y º ) |
| 02:56.50 | Mikk | perky |
| 02:56.59 | Seerah_ | men :P |
| 02:58.09 | Ashy^ | Okay, I still need to get rid of the buttons around the minimap, but it's back at usable. |
| 02:58.10 | Shirik | uh... ckknight |
| 02:58.18 | ckknight | yes? |
| 02:58.21 | ckknight | it's an owl. |
| 02:58.26 | Ashy^ | Thank you for helping again, everyone. Not getting messages was making me insane, and I can't not use cellular. :D |
| 02:58.28 | ckknight | hoot hoot |
| 02:58.29 | Shirik | "initial load" being during the UI loading process? Like when you start up? |
| 02:58.53 | Seerah_ | ck: mmhmm ;) |
| 02:58.57 | ckknight | not necessarily, Shirik |
| 02:59.00 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:59.19 | Shirik | honestly I just get worried whenever I see collectgarbage"collect" somewhere |
| 02:59.39 | JoshBorke | as do i shirik. it's only called when an addon is loaded |
| 02:59.43 | JoshBorke | or when the player logs in initially |
| 02:59.56 | Shirik | but see... the UI does that for you anyway, which is what's confusing me |
| 03:00.11 | sylvanaar | once |
| 03:00.16 | Shirik | true, once |
| 03:00.24 | sylvanaar | and not at the right time |
| 03:00.37 | Shirik | that's why I ask these questions |
| 03:01.52 | Recluse | cool, that string.format was golden :) |
| 03:03.28 | Shirik | "You have not disappointed us, Kimina. We continue to have very high hopes for you, however." |
| 03:03.32 | Shirik | However what? |
| 03:03.49 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 03:03.50 | Shirik | Blizzard might think about hiring a english major :P |
| 03:03.52 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48684 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix AceEvent_FullyInitialized reference. Should change this to a Rock thing sometime. |
| 03:03.54 | Wobin_ | yeah =P |
| 03:04.14 | Wobin_ | that whole phrasing ... fails =P |
| 03:04.30 | sylvanaar | Rock_Steady |
| 03:04.37 | Wobin_ | BeBop? |
| 03:04.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48685 10PitBull/PitBull/CombatIcon/CombatIcon.lua: PitBull_CombatIcon - convert to Rock |
| 03:05.24 | sylvanaar | Rock_On |
| 03:05.35 | ckknight | it'll Rock your world. |
| 03:05.56 | sylvanaar | no no no, wait...i got it |
| 03:06.00 | mjc | unlocked my iphone wewt :P |
| 03:06.14 | JoshBorke | party like a rock |
| 03:06.21 | sylvanaar | Rock your WorldFrame |
| 03:06.29 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 03:06.36 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 03:06.56 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:07.17 | Recluse | hrm, will we see some sort of voice chat UI customization via pitbull? (i haven't seen screenies of it but afaik it attatches talk indicators to unitframes or something?) |
| 03:08.13 | Antiarc | ATTN: |
| 03:08.13 | ckknight | Recluse: oh yea, we will |
| 03:08.20 | Antiarc | Someone roll a healer on Cenarion Circle and come heal me |
| 03:08.27 | ckknight | Antiarc: dude, I'm 52 |
| 03:08.30 | Seerah_ | haha |
| 03:08.31 | ckknight | just level me up |
| 03:08.35 | Antiarc | ckknight: Level moar |
| 03:08.35 | Recluse | lol |
| 03:08.35 | ckknight | I'll heal you |
| 03:08.46 | ckknight | you level moar! |
| 03:08.53 | sylvanaar | autofolow ftwz |
| 03:08.58 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:09.14 | Seerah_ | lazy bums ;) |
| 03:09.18 | Antiarc | I hit 70 |
| 03:09.19 | sylvanaar | this patch has taken an hour |
| 03:09.23 | Antiarc | So I cannot level moar |
| 03:09.25 | sylvanaar | for 75 meg |
| 03:09.28 | Antiarc | I'm all can I has levelz |
| 03:09.39 | Antiarc | And blizzard is all "no, you can't have a level. not yours" |
| 03:09.46 | Antiarc | And I'm all "oh no they is taking mah levels" |
| 03:10.03 | Seerah_ | (it's oh noez" |
| 03:10.06 | Seerah_ | ) |
| 03:10.14 | Antiarc | I am obviously not fluent in lolcatese |
| 03:10.22 | Seerah_ | obviously :P |
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| 03:10.24 | Wobin_ | It's more lolwalrus |
| 03:10.38 | Wobin_ | which is a subset of lolcat |
| 03:10.43 | Seerah_ | you should get some pointers from seito :P |
| 03:10.49 | Seerah_ | <3 lolcat |
| 03:11.02 | syeren | ckknight, are all of your addons being converted :p? |
| 03:11.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48686 10PitBull/PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: PitBull_CombatText - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:11.16 | ckknight | syeren: that's the idea |
| 03:11.45 | ckknight | I should put in a "how to convert Ace2 -> Rock" thing on the wiki |
| 03:12.05 | Wobin_ | 1. First, get 10kg of dry cement mix... |
| 03:12.07 | RogueShadow | Eventually you should put a full blown Rock, and rock only tutorial up. |
| 03:12.10 | RogueShadow | For newbs |
| 03:12.18 | RogueShadow | dont' forget pics |
| 03:12.32 | Wobin_ | pics or it never happened? |
| 03:12.54 | ckknight | yea, I should. |
| 03:12.58 | ckknight | well, both are important. |
| 03:13.13 | RogueShadow | Naturally we'll convert it to many formats. Portable and such, and to make sure it's preserved |
| 03:13.26 | kenlyric | pebblebubblefountain |
| 03:13.51 | Seerah_ | pebbles are much more portable |
| 03:14.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48687 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix funky typo |
| 03:14.23 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:14.33 | RogueShadow | What was funky spelled as? |
| 03:14.35 | RogueShadow | funkay? |
| 03:14.39 | Seerah_ | another one?!? lrn2spell |
| 03:14.47 | Seerah_ | funkeh |
| 03:14.56 | RogueShadow | no no, flunky |
| 03:15.03 | Seerah_ | ohh |
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| 03:16.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48688 10PitBull/PitBull/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: PitBull_ComboPoints - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:18.30 | Thrae | Boy, this guy in this Warhammer RvR video sucks |
| 03:18.39 | Thrae | He does like 20% damage then dies |
| 03:19.52 | Thrae | Warhammer UI does look a hell of a lot like WoW -- I'll give them props for that. |
| 03:20.14 | Thrae | Well, there are some key simularities. |
| 03:21.50 | TNSe | why redo it |
| 03:21.51 | TNSe | if it works |
| 03:22.12 | TNSe | its like if bush suddenly started to say |
| 03:22.12 | TNSe | hmm |
| 03:22.22 | TNSe | lets reform the government to dictatorship |
| 03:22.27 | TNSe | democrazy obviously doesn't work |
| 03:23.02 | TNSe | not that I'm saying bush has EVER said that american democrazy doesn't work. |
| 03:23.04 | TNSe | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.10 | TNSe | OR AM I. |
| 03:23.16 | Gngsk | why customize the UI if it works? |
| 03:23.27 | TNSe | EXACTLY |
| 03:23.29 | durcyn | you're not saying much of anything, tnse |
| 03:23.34 | durcyn | fyi |
| 03:24.06 | TNSe | I just hope they keep to wow's quest log modeling |
| 03:24.19 | TNSe | because tbh, anything pre-wow had messy quest logs |
| 03:24.28 | NightHawkTheSane | TNSe: dude, that rant is the kind of thing that gets you committed, or at least a spot on the sidewalk as the crazy ranting guy |
| 03:24.45 | TNSe | I'm not the committing kind of guy. |
| 03:25.14 | NightHawkTheSane | thats okay, you're not the one that does the committing, youre the committee.. |
| 03:25.24 | NightHawkTheSane | (queue star wars quote..) |
| 03:25.37 | TNSe | I'm not your father, You're a fluke? |
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| 03:27.17 | Wobin_ | "She told me she was on the pill"? |
| 03:28.34 | TNSe | heh |
| 03:29.12 | TNSe | who felt more awkard in starwars when luke found out leia was his sister? |
| 03:29.29 | clad|sleep | Luke |
| 03:29.35 | clad|sleep | errections are more embarassing than "feelings" |
| 03:29.51 | TNSe | you think |
| 03:29.54 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 03:29.57 | TNSe | ? |
| 03:31.22 | Wobin_ | depends on how hard his 'feelings' were pressed up against Leia |
| 03:32.53 | Megalon | it's a game for the whole family |
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| 03:34.22 | TNSe | "oh shit she's my sister, I gotta get some release, AHA, a deathstar, I'll blow that up! BLINDFOLDED!" |
| 03:35.14 | TNSe | did you see the star wars robot chicken special |
| 03:35.14 | TNSe | ? |
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| 03:36.07 | ckknight | lol, no |
| 03:36.09 | ckknight | is it a recent one? |
| 03:36.12 | TNSe | yeah |
| 03:36.16 | TNSe | 1 month or so |
| 03:36.19 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:36.19 | TNSe | it was teh awesomestestest |
| 03:37.11 | TNSe | http://www.mininova.org/tor/756324 |
| 03:37.37 | Seerah_ | if someone's bored, could you give this the once-over to make sure I didn't miss anything? I'm working on the linked scripts page next. http://wowace.com/wiki/EePanels2 |
| 03:41.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48689 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber - bugfix, ironically. |
| 03:42.44 | Seerah_ | O.O |
| 03:44.20 | orionshock | ? |
| 03:44.24 | orionshock | hehe.. what' |
| 03:44.32 | orionshock | 'd u fix in bug grabber? |
| 03:46.56 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r48690 10Elephant/Locale-zhTW.lua: Elephant: updated zhTW localization |
| 03:47.26 | ckknight | orionshock: it did lib.GetLibraryVersion() instead of lib:GetLibraryVersion() |
| 03:47.30 | ckknight | which fucked up Rock |
| 03:47.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48691 10LibGratuity-3.0/LibGratuity-3.0.lua: LibGratuity-3.0 - fix pcall reference. |
| 03:48.05 | Garoun|Loupana | did something happen to break stace modifiers in macros? |
| 03:48.14 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r48692 10Cartographer_Data/Cartographer_Data.toc: Cartographer_Data: zhTW typo, sorry. |
| 03:48.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48693 10PitBull/PitBull/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: PitBull_ComboPoints - LibRockEvent-2.0 is actually 1.0 |
| 03:48.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48694 10PitBull/PitBull/DruidManaBar/DruidManaBar.lua: PitBull_DruidManaBar - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:48.40 | Seerah_ | oh ck?..... |
| 03:48.44 | ckknight | oh? |
| 03:48.49 | RogueShadow | doesn't anybody know that Iran's president publicly stated they are out to annihalate america? And that they made arms treatiest and such with russia for nuclear plants, likely weapons? |
| 03:48.57 | Garoun|Loupana | for some reason /cast [stance:cat]Prowl;Shadowmeld isn't working anymore |
| 03:49.00 | RogueShadow | nobody gives a crap about that when talking about how bad bush is. |
| 03:49.04 | Seerah_ | have you looked into making the Druid Mana text positional? :) /bats eyelashes |
| 03:49.15 | FrostByghte | is there going to be a very hellish surprise next time I update pitbull? |
| 03:49.24 | ckknight | Seerah_: make a jira ticket |
| 03:49.31 | ckknight | FrostByghte: no, it's in branches |
| 03:49.36 | FrostByghte | :) |
| 03:49.37 | ckknight | and it doesn't look like anything changed anyway |
| 03:49.42 | FrostByghte | whew |
| 03:49.45 | ckknight | ...yet |
| 03:49.48 | Seerah_ | ck: I put it up on the wishlist a month or two ago. Haven't signed up on Jira yet |
| 03:50.04 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48695 10PitBull/PitBull/EstimatedHeals/EstimatedHeals.lua: PitBull_EstimatedHeals - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:50.05 | Seerah_ | but I will when I'm done with this wiki stuff |
| 03:50.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48696 10PitBull/PitBull/ExperienceBar/ExperienceBar.lua: PitBull_ExperienceBar - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:51.29 | orionshock | Garoun|Loupana: it's /cast [stance:3]Prowl; Shadowmeld |
| 03:52.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48697 10PitBull/PitBull/HideBlizzard/HideBlizzard.lua: PitBull_HideBlizzard - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:53.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48698 10PitBull/PitBull/Highlight/Highlight.lua: PitBull_Highlight - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:54.07 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 03:54.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48699 10PitBull/PitBull/InteractLines/InteractLines.lua: PitBull_interactLines - upgrade to Rock |
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| 03:55.10 | Diao | when will rock versions of everything go to trunk? :O |
| 03:55.36 | Gngsk | nevas! |
| 03:55.55 | kaiden | ckknight, i take it Lib-DogTag2.0 doesn't have the same tags as 1.0? |
| 03:56.00 | ckknight | it does |
| 03:56.08 | kaiden | hrm.. [RestXP] tag isn't working then |
| 03:56.09 | ckknight | Diao: when I upgrade all of my addons. |
| 03:56.12 | Gngsk | shouldn't it be 'convert to rock' rather than 'upgrade to rock' ? :P |
| 03:56.20 | ckknight | Gngsk: not in my mind! |
| 03:56.24 | Gngsk | touche! |
| 03:56.32 | ckknight | kaiden: I think it was broken in 1.0 as well |
| 03:56.38 | kaiden | ckknight, ah ok then haha |
| 03:56.40 | kaiden | :) |
| 03:56.48 | Diao | ah |
| 03:57.00 | Diao | what's left aside from the rest of pitbull? |
| 03:57.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48700 10PitBull/PitBull/LeaderIcon/LeaderIcon.lua: PitBull_LeaderIcon - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:57.27 | ckknight | Cartographer and FuBar |
| 03:57.34 | Diao | ah ok |
| 03:57.47 | kaiden | ckknight, you should take a look at the ForteWarlock addon to check out his configuration panel style it's a lot like yours but his i dunno feels much more stream lined |
| 03:57.53 | kaiden | not saying yours is bad at all, i love Rock :P |
| 03:58.02 | ckknight | well, Rock's can always change |
| 03:58.06 | ckknight | gimme a link? |
| 03:58.11 | kaiden | sure thing one sec |
| 03:58.23 | kaiden | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7532-ForteWarlock.html |
| 03:58.23 | Thrae | Soon there shall be the "Paper" framework, then the "Scissors" framework, then, of course, the "Volcano" framework, because "Volcano" beats anything. |
| 03:58.46 | kaiden | he does a lot of what you do but with smoother drop downs and the system just flows together better imo as i imagine he's worked SOLELY on the config panels for a very long time |
| 03:58.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48701 10PitBull/PitBull/MasterLooterIcon/MasterLooterIcon.lua: PitBull_MasterLooterIcon - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:59.00 | ckknight | Good old Rock, nothing beats Rock |
| 03:59.10 | Thrae | Except a thin piece of paper :D |
| 03:59.14 | kaiden | haha |
| 03:59.20 | Thrae | Oh, and Volcano. Nothing beats Volcano! |
| 03:59.46 | art3mis | no way! |
| 03:59.52 | art3mis | volcanos lose to water |
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| 04:00.02 | art3mis | and comets |
| 04:00.46 | kaiden | yeah comets beat everything.. |
| 04:00.51 | kaiden | i mean.. did you see the dinosaurs.. |
| 04:00.55 | Thrae | Comets lose to Black Hole |
| 04:00.55 | Recluse | random: anyone know why it's RGB when BGR (alphabetical) would make more sense? |
| 04:01.16 | Shirik | uh |
| 04:01.21 | Shirik | cause that's what they decided? :P |
| 04:01.28 | ckknight | Thrae: Rock's vulnerability to Paper just shows its sensitive side. |
| 04:01.32 | ckknight | I talk about this on the wiki |
| 04:01.34 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 04:01.35 | purl | well, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. |
| 04:01.38 | Recluse | hehe |
| 04:01.49 | art3mis | yeah but if you degin the Blackhole Framework you've successfully created a unified Framework and the universe ends ;P |
| 04:02.36 | art3mis | unga bunga bunga inga binga binga bungaaaaaaaa |
| 04:02.45 | kaiden | Recluse, well there is BGR |
| 04:02.46 | Megalon | Recluse: it's ordered by wavelength of light that |
| 04:02.48 | Shirik | lua> local t = loadstring("return {" .. ("1,"):rep(10000) .."1})(); local start = os.clock(); |
| 04:02.48 | cladbot | Shirik: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "local t = loadstring("return {" .. ("1,"):rep(10000) .."1})(); ..."]:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 04:02.49 | kaiden | they are different things :P |
| 04:02.51 | Shirik | oops |
| 04:03.15 | kaiden | i also think it's based on bit depth |
| 04:03.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48702 10PitBull/PitBull/Portrait/Portrait.lua: PitBull_Portrait - upgrade to Rock |
| 04:03.23 | kaiden | as when discussing 24 bit it's rgb |
| 04:03.27 | kaiden | and 32bit is pbgra |
| 04:03.44 | Recluse | hrm, color band order? i was alphabetizing my localizations and realized it didn't look right cause of that lol |
| 04:04.16 | art3mis | yeah tis the wavelength |
| 04:04.19 | art3mis | roygbiv |
| 04:04.22 | Shirik | oooh |
| 04:04.23 | Shirik | yeah |
| 04:04.23 | art3mis | rgb |
| 04:04.24 | Shirik | good point |
| 04:04.31 | Shirik | I didn't think of that |
| 04:04.45 | art3mis | kaiden whats the p and a? |
| 04:04.54 | Thrae | For now, I've decided just to keep all localizations in one file -- it's more intensive to parse and compile 6 files then parse and compile one bigger file |
| 04:04.55 | Recluse | a=alpha? |
| 04:05.02 | Recluse | p=pallete? |
| 04:05.03 | kaiden | a is alpha |
| 04:05.10 | kaiden | and p is pixel size i think |
| 04:05.16 | art3mis | i remember the 5bnc connections for contrast and brightness along with rgb |
| 04:05.17 | kaiden | or maybe palette |
| 04:05.20 | kaiden | i honestly dont remember |
| 04:05.28 | art3mis | i suppose thats roughly the same thing |
| 04:05.29 | buu | Eeek. 2900dps. |
| 04:05.34 | kaiden | we learned that crap wayyyyyy back a long time ago and i chose to shove it in the trash bin |
| 04:05.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48703 10PitBull/PitBull/PvPIcon/PvPIcon.lua: PitBull_PvPIcon - upgrade to Rock |
| 04:05.48 | ckknight | only 6 more to go |
| 04:05.49 | art3mis | well see if you didnt you've be a god of useless trivia ;P |
| 04:05.50 | ckknight | dinnertime, though |
| 04:06.01 | art3mis | now yer just an acronym dork ;) |
| 04:06.24 | art3mis | man if i ever go to court i want harvey birdman as my lawyer |
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| 04:11.38 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30257 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31545 |
| 04:11.40 | RaydenUnicyclist | feral druid |
| 04:12.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | feral is cat right? lol |
| 04:12.34 | Recluse | lol |
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| 04:12.44 | RaydenUnicyclist | this is for a guildie |
| 04:13.00 | kaiden | no feral is .. feral spec |
| 04:13.05 | Recluse | cat or bear = feral, but one dps one tank |
| 04:13.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | well this is for dps |
| 04:13.28 | Antiarc | Cat then, yes |
| 04:13.38 | Thrae | CAT IS 4 FITE |
| 04:13.47 | kaiden | ahahaha! |
| 04:14.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | so 25agi vs 30 crit strike rating |
| 04:14.40 | Thrae | !i 30257 |
| 04:14.41 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Shattrath Leggings; Rarity: Rare (Blue); BoP; Type: Legs; +27 Stamina; +25 Agility; +35 Strength; 75 Durability; Equip: Increases feral combat skill rating by 22.; Get: Quest Reward. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=30257 ][ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30257 ]] |
| 04:14.44 | Thrae | !i 31545 |
| 04:14.44 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Oilcloth Breeches; Rarity: Rare (Blue); BoP; Type: Legs; +24 Stamina; 75 Durability; +25 HitRating; +30 CritRating; Equip: Increases attack power by 60.; Get: Quest Reward. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=31545 ][ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31545 ]] |
| 04:14.56 | Recluse | i lost my link to the saved copy of that durid guide |
| 04:15.28 | RaydenUnicyclist | he was leaning towards oilcloth because of the crit strike |
| 04:15.31 | Thrae | Recluse: Wow, they're pretty damn similiar...but remember Strength adds to AP by 2.5x |
| 04:15.37 | Garoun|Loupana | druid.wikispaces.com |
| 04:16.18 | Thrae | Ah, whoops |
| 04:16.27 | Thrae | Rayden: Wow, they're pretty damn similiar...but remember Strength adds to AP by 2.5x |
| 04:17.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | k thx |
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| 04:17.52 | Thrae | RaydenUnicyclist: I would go with Agility, since not only does the Strength and Agility both add to AP, the Agility adds to Critical Strike Rating of course |
| 04:17.55 | RaydenUnicyclist | whats the ratio of agi vs crit rating? |
| 04:18.06 | Antiarc | For what class and at what level? |
| 04:18.12 | Antiarc | Rogues are 40 agi/crit at 70 |
| 04:18.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | druid 70 |
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| 04:19.12 | Antiarc | 33 agi or so per crit |
| 04:19.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | per crit %? |
| 04:19.43 | Thrae | RaydenUnicyclist: 30 crit rating is ~+1.30% crit at 70 |
| 04:20.38 | Recluse | Garoun: ty! http://druid.wikispaces.com/Druid+Guides#tocDruid%20Guides8 |
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| 04:21.53 | RaydenUnicyclist | thanks |
| 04:22.37 | Thrae | RaydenUnicyclist: If it's 33 agi / crit for Druids, then that means it'll be 25 / 33 or +0.75%. However, the one with Agility also has Strength, overall you get +35 x 2.5 +25 AP, or +112.5 AP in Cat Form. That's nothing to sneeze at. |
| 04:23.01 | RaydenUnicyclist | so 1.72 agi per crit rating is about equal |
| 04:24.14 | Thrae | RaydenUnicyclist: I'd go with the one with Strength and Agility. This also increases your AC, Dodge, and a bit more Stamina, and since it increases Feral Combat Rating instead of just Hit Rating, it's good for Bear PvE too. |
| 04:24.36 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah this is for pve |
| 04:25.33 | Thrae | RaydenUnicyclist: I'd say since the trinkets are so similiar, but one offers little for Bear while the other is a decent tanking legs, get the latter |
| 04:25.55 | Thrae | One is better overall for both Cat and Bear DPS, the other is more situational for DPS |
| 04:26.05 | RaydenUnicyclist | which one for dps? the oilcloth? |
| 04:26.07 | RaydenUnicyclist | crit rating ones? |
| 04:26.12 | kaiden | ckknight, fixed the [RestXP] tag |
| 04:26.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | they sound very similar |
| 04:26.25 | ckknight | kaiden: what was the issue? |
| 04:26.36 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r48704 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 04:26.45 | Thrae | RaydenUnicyclist: Both are good for DPS, but the Shattrath Leggings are good for overall DPS in most situations |
| 04:26.46 | kaiden | ckknight, honestly i didn't even look, i just deleted it and rewrote it |
| 04:26.47 | kaiden | hehe |
| 04:27.06 | ckknight | :-P |
| 04:27.09 | ckknight | works for me |
| 04:27.14 | kaiden | ckknight, http://wowi.pastey.net/73738 |
| 04:27.18 | kaiden | there it is fixed for DogTag2.0 |
| 04:27.29 | Thrae | RaydenUnicyclist: Remember that increases to Combat Skills (IE, Feral Combat Skill) not only increases your hit rating, but decreases the effectiveness of Defense for your target |
| 04:27.29 | kaiden | i imagine it's the exact same in DogTag1.0 as well |
| 04:28.05 | Seerah_ | okay, I'm guessing that either no one was bored enough to look over the eePanels2 wiki page, or I didn't miss anything! ;) Here's the scripts page if anyone's still bored: http://wowace.com/wiki/EePanels_Scripts |
| 04:28.09 | Thrae | RaydenUnicyclist: IE, you can get more crits that way too (very, very minor amount though) |
| 04:28.43 | Seerah_ | @ the scripts page: I'm no coder, so if someone catches typos, let me know or change em :) |
| 04:28.47 | ckknight | kaiden: hrm, where are you using [RestXP]? |
| 04:28.53 | kaiden | in cowtip |
| 04:28.55 | ckknight | oh. |
| 04:28.57 | ckknight | that's the issue |
| 04:29.01 | ckknight | lemme fix properly :-P |
| 04:29.10 | kaiden | hehe :P |
| 04:29.24 | Thrae | kaiden: How dare you use a library for more then one addon! |
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| 04:29.41 | kaiden | i am using the rock version of cowtip |
| 04:29.58 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48705 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix RestXP and PercentRestXP for when unit is not literally "player". |
| 04:30.00 | Thrae | Oh, well that's solid then. The error must be because you have faulty RAM. |
| 04:30.14 | ckknight | kaiden: okay, that should be fixed properly. |
| 04:30.34 | Thrae | That, and your keyboard is bad too. Might as well throw out your entire machine, get a new one. Something in mauve. |
| 04:30.35 | kaiden | ckknight, no need to make it check to see if it's literally "player" since the API call itself returns nil if not player and 0 if player with none |
| 04:30.36 | kaiden | i think |
| 04:30.55 | ckknight | no |
| 04:31.03 | ckknight | GetXPExhaustion() always refers to the player's XP |
| 04:31.08 | ckknight | there's no unit argument |
| 04:31.13 | kaiden | oh duh sowwy |
| 04:31.20 | kaiden | Thrae, indeed |
| 04:31.24 | Thrae | !api GetXPExhaustion |
| 04:31.24 | ThraeBot | Thrae: retVal = GetXPExhaustion() -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetXPExhaustion |
| 04:32.59 | kaiden | ckknight, cool, thanks! |
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| 04:33.23 | ckknight | also fixes COW-6 |
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| 04:35.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48706 10PitBull/PitBull/RaidTargetIcon/RaidTargetIcon.lua: PitBull_RaidTargetIcon - upgrade to Rock |
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| 04:39.04 | kaiden | since i'm fairly new to the dogtag system how would i properly write a [RestXP] ([PercentRestXP]) and make it hide if there's nothing |
| 04:39.13 | kaiden | [RestXP:HideZero] ([PercentXP:HideZero]) makes it not hide due to the () |
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| 04:39.20 | kaiden | but i want the () in there around the % |
| 04:40.17 | dylanm | kaiden: I believe the :Paren modifier will get you what you want |
| 04:40.32 | kaiden | ok |
| 04:40.33 | loonacy | kaiden: I said that same exact thing to a girl once, and she slapped me. |
| 04:40.44 | kaiden | LOL |
| 04:41.52 | kaiden | [RestXP:HideZero] [PercentXP:HideZero:Percent:Paren] |
| 04:41.53 | kaiden | there we go |
| 04:41.54 | kaiden | :p |
| 04:43.13 | CIA-22 | 03recluse * r48707 10TextSpy/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:43.13 | CIA-22 | TextSpy: |
| 04:43.13 | CIA-22 | - Allow pattern matches to be used in output |
| 04:43.13 | CIA-22 | - Removed: Short Text - rendered obsolete by Custom Text |
| 04:43.13 | CIA-22 | - Slight localization overhaul/cleanup |
| 04:43.47 | Gngsk | anyone know the website that tracks the time since last content patch? |
| 04:43.58 | Gngsk | I remember it was linked in here once, don't wanna have to scrounge through the log for it though |
| 04:44.06 | dylanm | lol sounds... useful |
| 04:44.08 | kaiden | 2 months and some odd days |
| 04:44.12 | kaiden | that's going from memory |
| 04:44.13 | kaiden | :p |
| 04:44.17 | Gngsk | nvm, found it |
| 04:44.19 | Gngsk | patchtimer.org |
| 04:45.09 | kaiden | Gngsk, oh they literally time like large content |
| 04:45.11 | kaiden | not small things |
| 04:50.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48708 10PitBull/PitBull/RangeCheck/RangeCheck.lua: PitBull_RangeCheck - upgrade to Rock |
| 04:52.34 | CIA-22 | 03eraslin * r48709 10DKPmon_PercentDKP/ (example.lua percentdkp.lua): DKPmon_PercentDKP: Make the specification of boss points more general. |
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| 04:59.38 | SkorcherX | hello |
| 04:59.59 | SkorcherX | so im running OmniCC and i can not for the life of me figure out how to get rid of the countdown on the target frame |
| 05:00.01 | SkorcherX | http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot091107214149gt9.jpg |
| 05:02.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48710 10PitBull/PitBull/ReputationBar/ReputationBar.lua: PitBull_ReptationBar - upgrade to Rock |
| 05:03.16 | CIA-22 | 03eraslin * r48711 10DKPmon_PercentDKP/percentdkp.lua: DKPmon_PercentDKP: Bugfix to last update. |
| 05:03.57 | ZealotOnAStick | has S4 of Stargate Atlantis started in any country outside of the USA yet? |
| 05:04.35 | Gngsk | SkorcherX, do you want to see the default blizz buff durations or no buff durations at all? |
| 05:05.31 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, has it started here? |
| 05:05.51 | ZealotOnAStick | no, starts in the US on the 28th. |
| 05:06.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh okay |
| 05:06.15 | ZealotOnAStick | but last season, they were ahead in Canada or something. Though maybe that was only the second half of the season, I'm not sure. |
| 05:06.41 | art3mis | braaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiinnnnsssssss |
| 05:06.59 | NightHawkTheSane | well, mininova has listings for 4x01 |
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| 05:09.57 | NightHawkTheSane | they're all on private trackers, though. blarg |
| 05:09.59 | art3mis | ya know i wish apples were so cheap |
| 05:10.17 | art3mis | i always feel jjipped getting a mixed bag of dried frutis and it being 90% apple |
| 05:10.23 | ckknight | so my mother offered me $10,000 to stay in school |
| 05:10.25 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 05:10.46 | art3mis | did that company offer you 80k+ to come work for them? |
| 05:10.55 | art3mis | cuz thats REALLY simple math ;P |
| 05:11.02 | kaiden | haha |
| 05:11.19 | kaiden | he could make more depending on where he went and what languages he knows |
| 05:11.37 | art3mis | tell her you need at least 75k/yr with 3 weeks of paid vacation and healthcare |
| 05:12.06 | kaiden | i think he'd need the health care up front after asking for that |
| 05:12.08 | art3mis | and something ebtter than a child molester van with Free Candy painted on the side to drive around in ;) |
| 05:12.14 | ckknight | art3mis: not yet |
| 05:12.16 | ckknight | which is lame |
| 05:12.24 | art3mis | if they havent yet |
| 05:12.27 | ckknight | I wish they would get off their asses and offer me a proper job |
| 05:12.29 | art3mis | i'd take the 10k from yer mom |
| 05:12.39 | ckknight | they contacted me again recently, though |
| 05:12.47 | kaiden | meh.. i'm expecting my offer letter from microsoft tomorrow |
| 05:12.53 | kaiden | excited, scared, and .. bleh right now |
| 05:12.57 | kaiden | dunno what i'm gonna do |
| 05:12.58 | art3mis | "hi chris we're just gonna string you a long a bit more so that you dont take other job offers" |
| 05:13.35 | art3mis | next time they call mention taht you've got a couple of other offers you need to start considering and you can't hold off for them forever ;P |
| 05:13.44 | SkorcherX | no durations at all |
| 05:13.54 | art3mis | cuz technically yer moms offering you a job to go to school ;P |
| 05:14.05 | art3mis | job/wage |
| 05:14.05 | SkorcherX | Gngsk: no buff durations |
| 05:14.10 | ckknight | theoretically. |
| 05:14.26 | art3mis | and 10k would help for the post secondary you're gonna take |
| 05:14.37 | art3mis | even though they're just gonna pay for that anywys ;P |
| 05:14.51 | art3mis | you could buy a brand new power book ;P |
| 05:14.58 | art3mis | and ditch yer broked one heh |
| 05:15.03 | art3mis | well not ditch |
| 05:15.04 | ckknight | school sucks royal ass for me. |
| 05:15.07 | art3mis | i meant "send to me" |
| 05:15.16 | ckknight | my mac book pro works great |
| 05:15.23 | art3mis | no it doesnt you need a new one |
| 05:15.44 | art3mis | how old are you again? |
| 05:15.48 | kaiden | if i could stop wasting money on shit i could get a macbook pro again :( sold my last one |
| 05:16.06 | kaiden | bought a 42" LCD TV & a 7.1 Home Theater system and an iPhone and a PS3 in the past 2 months :P |
| 05:16.10 | ckknight | art3mis: I'm 20 |
| 05:16.14 | kaiden | and about 600 dollars worth of games/movies |
| 05:16.17 | art3mis | what school is she talking about? |
| 05:16.22 | ckknight | college |
| 05:16.30 | art3mis | you couldnt possibly be retarded enough to still be in ghihschool |
| 05:16.39 | ckknight | the issue is not that it's too hard |
| 05:16.40 | art3mis | and why does it suck? |
| 05:16.44 | ckknight | it's that it's not challenging |
| 05:16.50 | ckknight | I learn absolutely nothing |
| 05:16.54 | art3mis | kaiden: but yer getting a 100 bucks back! |
| 05:16.55 | ckknight | and my peers are idiotic |
| 05:17.07 | kaiden | art3mis, right.. which is so pathetic.. the thing overheats like mad |
| 05:17.09 | ckknight | "Bra, I got wun website" |
| 05:17.11 | kaiden | and the battery life sucks |
| 05:17.13 | ckknight | fucking Pidgin. |
| 05:17.16 | kaiden | other than that it's ok |
| 05:17.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: protip: your peers will always be idiotic. -people- are idiotic. |
| 05:17.19 | art3mis | ckknight: so excel. surpass them, stand out |
| 05:17.19 | Recluse | ckknight: it is worth the short term suffering for the long term gain, i'd say though? |
| 05:17.33 | ckknight | fuck that, Recluse, I want off this island |
| 05:17.37 | art3mis | and get 10k from yer mom |
| 05:17.38 | Recluse | lol! |
| 05:17.41 | NightHawkTheSane | so don't go to school on that island? |
| 05:17.51 | art3mis | for doing something so incredibly mindless you can do other worthwhile things ;) |
| 05:17.56 | art3mis | laugh |
| 05:18.01 | art3mis | nights got a point |
| 05:18.03 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: yea, but where else should I go? |
| 05:18.08 | ckknight | and if I go, why not just get a job? |
| 05:18.09 | art3mis | she never said you had to attend there ;P |
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| 05:18.52 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: well, in terms of big name schools, CalTech, MIT, probably others i'm too bored to care bout thinking of |
| 05:19.29 | `kAi | Can anyone help me with the wowace updater? |
| 05:19.34 | NightHawkTheSane | but there's probably dozens of schools at least as good |
| 05:20.15 | Recluse | i'm not a fan of js or meta-refreshes, but patchtimer.org's static text time output field needs more cowbell |
| 05:22.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48712 10PitBull/PitBull/RestIcon/RestIcon.lua: PitBull_RestIcon - upgrade to Rock |
| 05:25.31 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48713 10PitBull/PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: PitBull_Spark - upgrade to Rock |
| 05:27.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48714 10PitBull/PitBull/ThreatBar/ThreatBar.lua: PitBull_ThreatBar - upgrade to Rock |
| 05:29.15 | ckknight | all modules done with the initial conversion! |
| 05:29.57 | kaiden | sweet |
| 05:30.01 | kaiden | << gonna grab it |
| 05:30.05 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:30.14 | ckknight | it doesn't look or act any different, so you know |
| 05:30.21 | kaiden | i know ;) |
| 05:30.46 | kaiden | i have to make one decision first.. rogue.. aldor or scryer :P |
| 05:31.24 | SkorcherX | what is a good program to just hide the stock art on the action bars? |
| 05:31.59 | kaiden | Squid |
| 05:32.01 | SkorcherX | well i mean addon not program |
| 05:32.06 | SkorcherX | squid? |
| 05:32.24 | kaiden | it's a mod that hasn't been developed in years but it's the only one i know of |
| 05:32.28 | kaiden | and it's pretty straight forward |
| 05:32.29 | kaiden | :P |
| 05:32.33 | kaiden | you can change the art of remove it |
| 05:36.03 | ZealotOnAStick | what are you studying, ckknight? |
| 05:36.11 | ckknight | computer science |
| 05:36.17 | ckknight | but I keep changing classes nearly every day |
| 05:36.30 | ckknight | mostly because I already know the material they teach |
| 05:36.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Check out University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. |
| 05:36.56 | ZealotOnAStick | One of the best non-government/non-military VR and CS departments in the country. |
| 05:37.28 | ckknight | cost? |
| 05:37.51 | ZealotOnAStick | *shrug* unc.edu, go find out. |
| 05:38.08 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm sure the non-resident tuition is probably about 4x as much as resident. |
| 05:41.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48715 10PitBull/PitBull/ (3 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - clean up a few things |
| 05:42.48 | kaiden | ckknight, if i can be honest with you.. certifications will get you farther if you are going into the tech field than a degree will |
| 05:43.03 | kaiden | theres a few people with masters in cs where i work that are stuck in tech support |
| 05:43.15 | ckknight | I do tech support on the side |
| 05:43.26 | ckknight | it's okay work, only issue is I don't have a big enough clientelle |
| 05:43.37 | ckknight | clientele* |
| 05:44.39 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r48716 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Timestamps.lua: Prat: Prat_Modules/modules/Timestamps.lua: updated tooltip to include pointer to web page with more information about timestamp formats |
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| 05:48.53 | Herio | lua string concatination is done with the ".." operator, right? |
| 05:49.12 | ckknight | yes |
| 05:49.21 | Herio | good |
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| 05:53.39 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:53.44 | ckknight | I have an important question for all of you |
| 05:53.51 | ckknight | and this is serious. |
| 05:53.55 | ckknight | who is cooler? Pirates or Ninjas? |
| 05:53.59 | nevcairiel | pirates |
| 05:54.08 | Shirik|AFK | dude |
| 05:54.11 | Garoun|Loupana | Ninjates |
| 05:54.12 | Shirik|AFK | just kick nevcairiel |
| 05:54.13 | Shirik|AFK | nw |
| 05:54.14 | Shirik|AFK | now* |
| 05:54.22 | ckknight | no, wrong, Garoun|Loupana |
| 05:54.23 | Herio | ninjas |
| 05:54.24 | ckknight | it's Priates. |
| 05:54.27 | ckknight | Pirates* |
| 05:54.29 | Herio | NINJAS |
| 05:54.33 | ckknight | PIRATES! |
| 05:54.36 | Shirik|AFK | pirates suck |
| 05:54.38 | Herio | NO U |
| 05:54.41 | Shirik|AFK | wtf |
| 05:54.42 | nevcairiel | no one listens to people AFK :P |
| 05:55.06 | Shirik|zZz | Herio: I was agreeing with you |
| 05:55.19 | Shirik|zZz | damn, can't please anyone today |
| 05:56.31 | ckknight | Yar har, fiddle dee dee! Being a pirate is alright to be! |
| 05:56.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, I can tell you that at the Warp 11 concert at GenCon SoCal a couple years ago, the crowd picked Pirates to win in the Ninjas vs. Pirates song. |
| 05:57.03 | Recluse | pirates live merrier lives, but ninjas would kick their butts any day |
| 05:58.03 | Herio | bards over both pirates and ninjas! |
| 05:58.07 | Herio | huzzah! |
| 05:58.27 | Recluse | lol |
| 05:59.10 | Keias | Pirates wear frilly shirts and don't allow women on their ships |
| 05:59.14 | Keias | Sounds pretty gay imo |
| 06:00.05 | ZealotOnAStick | aye. No women. Now, wenches . . . that be a different matter. |
| 06:00.22 | Recluse | i'm not satisfied with my warlock's ui. what needs fixing? http://i5.tinypic.com/4m8htm8.jpg |
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| 06:01.36 | kaiden | uhm.. |
| 06:01.39 | kaiden | make it not so ugly |
| 06:01.58 | Recluse | rofl, that's the idea anyhow |
| 06:02.26 | kaiden | #1, buy a bigger monitor |
| 06:02.29 | kaiden | #2, gradients are bad |
| 06:02.33 | kaiden | #3, smaller buttons |
| 06:02.40 | kaiden | #4, cilo texture.. yeah.. no |
| 06:03.02 | kaiden | #5, feng shui |
| 06:03.12 | kaiden | there you go that'll fix it |
| 06:03.35 | Megalon | http://youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI pirates win |
| 06:03.40 | Megalon | :7 |
| 06:03.40 | Thrae | Problem #142 with dating a gamer girl -- You're attempting to get frisky, and then suddenly you hear, "omg n00b" |
| 06:03.49 | kaiden | hahahahah |
| 06:03.58 | Recluse | i went through every texture, but could not find one (aside from clio) where it was easy to see how full the bar was without having to think about it |
| 06:04.13 | Thrae | Problem #94 with dating a gamer girl -- She plays a male character because she wants to avoid all the slanderous tells and such, you play a male character because, well, you're male, and she wants to cyber... |
| 06:04.57 | Thrae | Problem #42 with dating a gamer girl -- It might be hard for you to feel frisky after she just fragged your ass 30 times in a row |
| 06:06.06 | kaiden | Recluse, this is how you properly use any form of purple/pink in a ui http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Stiggy_02.jpg |
| 06:06.11 | kaiden | any other usage is gay.. and i should know |
| 06:06.15 | kaiden | trust me on this one |
| 06:06.16 | ckknight | Megalon: totally. |
| 06:06.19 | ckknight | Lazy Town = awesome |
| 06:06.22 | Aeyan | Pfft |
| 06:06.37 | Aeyan | Pink/purple belongs in the Hello Kitty ui |
| 06:07.03 | kaiden | Aeyan, mine is royal purple so not really hello kittyesque |
| 06:07.16 | Aeyan | I beg to differ |
| 06:07.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Thrae: where's this list at? |
| 06:07.39 | Aeyan | Thought... |
| 06:07.43 | Aeyan | You do play a gnome. |
| 06:07.48 | kaiden | i play many classes :) |
| 06:07.51 | kaiden | and races |
| 06:07.56 | Aeyan | But that's one's a gnome |
| 06:08.04 | Aeyan | -s |
| 06:08.11 | kaiden | actually a lot of them are gnomes indeed |
| 06:08.14 | Recluse | lol |
| 06:08.14 | kaiden | your point being? |
| 06:08.19 | kaiden | gnomes will one day rule the world |
| 06:08.23 | Thrae | ZealotOnAStick: My head. |
| 06:08.25 | kaiden | and you'll be my foot stool when we do! |
| 06:08.26 | kaiden | :P |
| 06:09.54 | Aeyan | You ain't no Tiax |
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| 06:17.34 | Wobin_ | Megalon: It's freakier in all the other languages |
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| 06:27.15 | CIA-22 | 03kameril * r48717 10VisualThemes/BlizzardFrames.lua: |
| 06:27.16 | CIA-22 | VisualThemes: |
| 06:27.16 | CIA-22 | -Removes ChatEditBox from being themed until I work out a better solution. |
| 06:28.34 | ckknight | brb |
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| 06:34.11 | theoddone33 | man I hate shattered halls |
| 06:34.23 | theoddone33 | doing a guild run and the tank died 3 pulls in a row, with me solo healing |
| 06:34.25 | Keias | What class do you play? |
| 06:34.28 | Keias | oh |
| 06:34.35 | Keias | Yeah it's a pain to tank too :( |
| 06:34.39 | Keias | Unless you're a druid/pally |
| 06:34.48 | theoddone33 | so it was pretty awkward |
| 06:35.07 | theoddone33 | I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong |
| 06:35.09 | theoddone33 | but bleh |
| 06:35.32 | theoddone33 | it's a sucky instance to heal as a paladin |
| 06:35.42 | theoddone33 | especially if you don't have a decurser |
| 06:36.26 | theoddone33 | but only 2-3 more runs and I'll be revered |
| 06:36.29 | theoddone33 | then I don't have to run it anymore |
| 06:37.45 | theoddone33 | I felt bad but it seriously seemed like the tank went from 90% to 0 in the time I was casting holy light |
| 06:37.53 | theoddone33 | 3 pulls in a row |
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| 06:48.41 | Student_ | hi |
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| 06:52.23 | orionshock | ahhh.. wtb help |
| 06:52.27 | orionshock | :\ |
| 06:52.51 | orionshock | what quest event fires when you get to click the button that says Turn quest in? |
| 06:56.23 | nevcairiel | get devtools and complete a quest |
| 06:56.46 | orionshock | ... good idea |
| 06:57.19 | orionshock | been at this for hours |
| 06:58.23 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/73742 |
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| 07:03.28 | nevcairiel | QUEST_FINISHED |
| 07:03.30 | nevcairiel | tried that? |
| 07:04.32 | nevcairiel | it fires twice, once when i turn it in initially, and a second time when i click the finish button and get my reward |
| 07:08.10 | orionshock | humm.... |
| 07:08.46 | orionshock | thx, will look into that :D |
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| 07:11.24 | nevcairiel | it took me 5 minutes to complete one daily quest with devtools event tracer open |
| 07:11.27 | nevcairiel | now what was hard ? :P |
| 07:11.56 | orionshock | for you.. no |
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| 07:12.02 | orionshock | for me ... well... yes |
| 07:12.31 | orionshock | you know what your looking at ... i have to guess |
| 07:13.37 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:13.52 | orionshock | then i figured it out.... |
| 07:14.37 | [Ammo] | ckknight: ping |
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| 07:14.56 | [Ammo] | ckknight: why does SharedMedia addon now use SharedMedia-2.0 just because it's used in ONE addon in branches |
| 07:14.59 | rob` | Hello. Wow, this channel's crowded. :) |
| 07:15.00 | [Ammo] | ckknight: revert that |
| 07:16.41 | rob` | I'm trying to find out if Omen accounts for the threat generated by the Spiritual Attunement ability in paladins; where can I find a complete changelog? |
| 07:16.46 | rob` | or some other method? |
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| 07:17.25 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r48718 10SharedMedia/ (5 files in 2 dirs): SharedMedia: revert back to using SharedMedia-1.0, upgrading because we can upgrade does not justify this. And one addon under dev in branches doesn't either. |
| 07:17.50 | dreamss | any ace addons leave BG? |
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| 07:25.12 | CIA-22 | 03sinaloit * r48719 10NRT_EPGP/ (GuildSettings.lua NRT_EPGP.lua): |
| 07:25.12 | CIA-22 | NRT_EPGP: |
| 07:25.12 | CIA-22 | - Fixed checking Guild Name before fully initialized |
| 07:25.12 | CIA-22 | - fixed difftime checking date() not time().. duh |
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| 07:34.36 | CIA-22 | YssGuildShop: |
| 07:34.36 | CIA-22 | - fixed a potential nil error |
| 07:34.37 | CIA-22 | - restructured the item database (again) |
| 07:34.37 | CIA-22 | - optimized some code |
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| 07:45.32 | Xinhuan | what does YssGuildShop do? |
| 07:46.21 | Wobin_ | I think it pretends to be a merchant window |
| 07:46.28 | Wobin_ | so people can buy stuff from the player |
| 07:47.10 | orionshock | it's a guild bank style addon |
| 07:47.25 | orionshock | on top of what wobin said |
| 07:48.59 | Xinhuan | how do you buy stuff from a player, if the trade window Accept button is protected, and requires a hardware input? |
| 07:49.30 | orionshock | not implemented that way |
| 07:49.45 | orionshock | .. it's mostly just a DB style interface that shows whats avaiable |
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| 08:04.31 | CIA-22 | Prat: |
| 08:04.31 | CIA-22 | Timestamps: updated zhTW localization |
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| 08:20.58 | Silowyi | !ap 1766 |
| 08:20.59 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Arena points from a rating of 1766 is, 2v2: 499, 3v3: 570, 5v5: 713 |
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| 08:33.46 | Recluse | XD better? http://i7.tinypic.com/643khfb.jpg |
| 08:34.47 | Punkie` | what's Nx? your target? |
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| 08:35.01 | Punkie` | oh its you |
| 08:35.16 | Recluse | nx me, zharmon pet, cowmonster target, awanakill ToT |
| 08:35.45 | Punkie` | I don't like self and target too far away from each other personally |
| 08:38.05 | Recluse | i like to have my target the focus of my attention, and myself/pet just at the edge of my vision's focus so i can still see the hp/mp levels, but i don't consider them as important as what my opponent is doing XD |
| 08:39.46 | Punkie` | so you die ? :P |
| 08:42.52 | Recluse | the idea is to live lol, but i need to ensure that i'm 110% aware of anything my target is casting, whether he changes targets, and how close (or not) to death he is, etc. |
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| 08:44.29 | Recluse | the last warlock i had i ended up twinking at 38 - you talk about an ugly ui - but it's very functional and ergonomic for me |
| 08:44.52 | Punkie` | well I like to condense information so everything I need is close |
| 08:44.55 | Recluse | aren't bliz default self and target pretty far apart? (been a while since i've seen em) |
| 08:45.12 | Punkie` | default blizzard self and target are close together |
| 08:45.19 | Punkie` | they are just in a ridiculous position |
| 08:45.29 | Recluse | and teenytiny |
| 08:45.51 | Punkie` | nah, they're not too bad |
| 08:46.10 | Recluse | seriously? they're like 1px tall bars XD |
| 08:46.17 | Punkie` | erm |
| 08:46.19 | Punkie` | no they are not |
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| 08:47.49 | Recluse | i guess it depends on the ui scale maybe |
| 08:48.15 | cryogen | i think im going to have to cave in and introduce some ace into my non ace UI |
| 08:48.20 | cryogen | autobar is just too damned good :) |
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| 08:52.47 | Recluse | Punkie`: http://i7.tinypic.com/4zxuude.jpg |
| 08:53.13 | Punkie` | yeah, that's ridiculous |
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| 08:54.07 | Recluse | but i swear by it for pvping, everything is in just the right place and large enough to click in a split second, etc |
| 08:54.43 | Punkie` | you shouldn't click vital abilities for pvp |
| 08:55.58 | Recluse | well, i got one hand on my mouse and 2 of my main fingers on WASD - it takes longer to stop walking to push a button than to just move the mouse a hair and click |
| 08:56.12 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/punkieui2.jpg |
| 08:56.17 | Saladin | Recluse: wrong. |
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| 08:56.55 | Saladin | You dont have to stop walking to press buttons |
| 08:56.59 | Saladin | I bind keys to Shift-E, Shift-R, T. Shift-T, F, Shift-F and the mouse buttons (4 and 5) |
| 08:57.41 | Saladin | qqqqqqq |
| 08:57.46 | Saladin | ups :p |
| 08:58.42 | Recluse | that's contortionist there XD say you're strafing left while backing up, and you want to hit shift-e to cast something? that's just not something my fingers can compute lol |
| 08:59.10 | Saladin | well, I have shift-E on my water elemental macro |
| 08:59.26 | abbat_w | recluse, you do mouse clicks in pvp??? |
| 08:59.31 | kebinusan | I moved to esdf from wsad a while back to get a couple extra keys within easy reach |
| 08:59.46 | abbat_w | Heh |
| 08:59.54 | Saladin | kebinusan: yeah I tried that once too, but it was really really really weird :P |
| 08:59.57 | abbat_w | i want to move from wsad to edsf too ;) |
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| 09:00.11 | abbat_w | But this take loooong time for adaptation |
| 09:00.15 | kebinusan | takes a little getting used to but its not bad actually |
| 09:00.25 | abbat_w | Can't do this because every day we have an arenas ;) |
| 09:00.32 | Recluse | yes, i heard of people who went to just ert, but that's nuts |
| 09:00.49 | Recluse | abbat_w: i click mission critical buttons in pvp yes |
| 09:01.01 | abbat_w | Pff.... |
| 09:01.03 | Recluse | but i don't click EVERYthing no |
| 09:01.37 | abbat_w | I only click on mana gems and food/water ;) |
| 09:01.46 | abbat_w | Btw guys |
| 09:01.51 | evl | I don't have a single button :) |
| 09:01.55 | evl | hotkeys ftw |
| 09:01.56 | kebinusan | yeah my keybard is split key, which is annoying for gaming |
| 09:01.59 | evl | and a cooldown timer, all I need |
| 09:02.08 | Saladin | abbat_w: conjuration macros? :p |
| 09:02.15 | kebinusan | I keep thinking I should replace it but never do |
| 09:02.20 | Recluse | and i'm a tab-targetter as well :p |
| 09:02.22 | abbat_w | I found good binding combination. for example: alt+mouse wheel up (upper trinket) |
| 09:02.24 | Saladin | I have one mana button, with AltModifiers shft,none and alt |
| 09:02.26 | [Ammo] | evl: rogue cheater |
| 09:02.40 | abbat_w | Saladin, not conjure. Consume ;) |
| 09:02.42 | evl | Well i have one sidebar which shows when I mouse over it |
| 09:02.53 | [Ammo] | I have 3 rows of 12 buttons all hotkeyed |
| 09:02.58 | abbat_w | Ammo ;))) |
| 09:03.01 | [Ammo] | and 2 on top of that with less used |
| 09:03.15 | kebinusan | These always looked interesting http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/886e/ |
| 09:03.17 | abbat_w | This is because you play pve ;) |
| 09:03.58 | [Ammo] | yup, because in pvp you only need 3 buttons, and a metric ton of gear |
| 09:04.00 | Punkie` | kebinusan: I have that, but the keyboard version :p |
| 09:04.00 | abbat_w | As i mage i have 3-4 critical spells which should be in best places. Ice block, Counterspell, Frost nova, Blink |
| 09:04.09 | kebinusan | you like it Punkie`? |
| 09:04.13 | Recluse | 3 buttons! o.O |
| 09:04.17 | Punkie` | it takes a bit of getting used too |
| 09:04.20 | Punkie` | but it really owns |
| 09:04.32 | kebinusan | warlocks have too many buttons to push |
| 09:04.39 | abbat_w | =) |
| 09:04.44 | abbat_w | try to play mage ;) |
| 09:04.47 | Saladin | same [Ammo], I have a block of 3 bars, all hotkeyed |
| 09:05.11 | Saladin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.15 | Saladin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.16 | Saladin | ftw |
| 09:05.16 | abbat_w | for example i need 2 different rank of frostbolts. Rank1 and RankMax |
| 09:05.37 | abbat_w | i need 2 different cs macros. one for target, and modifier for focus |
| 09:05.41 | abbat_w | same for sheep |
| 09:05.59 | kebinusan | you dont need different keys for those tho, you can do one macro with a modifier key |
| 09:06.04 | abbat_w | =) |
| 09:06.08 | Saladin | :D |
| 09:06.19 | kebinusan | ./cast [nomodifier] Shadow Bolt; [modifier:alt] Searing Pain; [modifier:ctrl] Soul Fire ; [modifier:shift] Incinerate |
| 09:06.26 | abbat_w | bhaha ;) |
| 09:06.32 | Recluse | good lord |
| 09:06.37 | abbat_w | kebinusan, try to remember this shit at Arena ;) |
| 09:06.45 | kebinusan | I do, its fine really |
| 09:06.54 | kebinusan | easy to memorize |
| 09:07.01 | Saladin | I bind stuff to my mouse |
| 09:07.01 | abbat_w | 'what? where is my searing pain? with alt? or with control? or with shift? fuck, i forget!' |
| 09:07.10 | Saladin | always heal raids with one hand on my pally :D |
| 09:07.20 | kebinusan | ./cast [modifier:alt,harm]Curse of the Elements ; [modifier:ctrl,harm] Curse of Weakness; [modifier:shift,harm] Curse of Tongues; [harm] Curse of Shadow |
| 09:07.36 | Punkie` | http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5825/24767784pm7.gif <--- old but loloool |
| 09:07.37 | kebinusan | I just remember what modifier they were on, easy enough imo |
| 09:07.45 | rob` | [harm] is a bit redundant there, isn't it? |
| 09:07.49 | abbat_w | I use another system |
| 09:07.50 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 09:07.54 | kebinusan | in that case it is |
| 09:07.55 | rob` | or do you have other functions if it's targeting a friendly? |
| 09:08.03 | abbat_w | All spells with 'alt' modifier will be sent to focus target |
| 09:08.11 | abbat_w | All spells w/o alt - to current target |
| 09:08.18 | Recluse | ./cast [modifier:alt] Amplify Curse /stopcasting /castsequence reset=target Curse Of Agony, Corruption, Siphon Life |
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| 09:08.31 | kebinusan | I dont like cast sequences for my dots |
| 09:08.32 | abbat_w | I cast 3-5 spells to focus, no more |
| 09:08.40 | kebinusan | it throws off my mojo on a resist |
| 09:09.08 | rob` | I never thought about using focus for a second DPS target. I like that. Combined with pitbull's focus frame that'll be really helpful. :) |
| 09:09.11 | abbat_w | btw, why you guys use 'harm' istead 'nohelp'? |
| 09:09.35 | Saladin | I use nohelp :S |
| 09:09.41 | abbat_w | rob, i use polymorph on focus, cs on focus, rank1 frostbolt on focus |
| 09:09.55 | abbat_w | and this is critical ;) |
| 09:10.05 | kebinusan | whats the difference between using harm and nohelp? |
| 09:10.07 | abbat_w | I don't cast dps spells on focus |
| 09:10.16 | rob` | poly and counterspell, I do on my mage, it's great when you need to dps one target and control another somehow. |
| 09:10.26 | abbat_w | kebinusan, target can be attacked but not harm |
| 09:10.34 | rob` | like magtheridon, I'm assigned to help counterspell and have to dps a different target. |
| 09:10.40 | abbat_w | rob, i _always_ need this at arenas ;) |
| 09:11.15 | rob` | ah, I don't do much of that. :) But I imagine that would be very helpful; focus a healer, I guess, and keep your twitch finger on the counterspell button? :) |
| 09:11.37 | Diao | hmm |
| 09:11.44 | Diao | what stats would you guys recommend for a shadow priest to do heroics |
| 09:11.58 | rob` | 550 +healing, 7k health, about 10% total +hit. |
| 09:11.59 | abbat_w | rob, something like that, yes |
| 09:12.04 | rob` | ish. |
| 09:12.14 | rob` | er, s/+healing/+dmg/ |
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| 09:12.31 | cryogen | 7k? you can do 9 easily in blues |
| 09:12.39 | abbat_w | Diao, craft shadowfrost set and spellstrike set. This is enough |
| 09:12.43 | cryogen | also just get 4-5% hit from gear and spec shadow focus, or whatever it is |
| 09:12.43 | rob` | yep, but 7k is a good unbuffed minimum. |
| 09:12.48 | Diao | hmm |
| 09:12.49 | Diao | ok |
| 09:13.51 | abbat_w | Diao, with these 2 sets you get about 1k spell damage, some healing from spellstrike and goot spelldamage procs from spellstrike |
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| 09:15.12 | Punkie` | abbat_w: show me your UI :D |
| 09:15.34 | abbat_w | Punkie, i'm at work now, can't show |
| 09:16.16 | abbat_w | But nothing special. bartender, pitbull, antagonist ;) |
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| 09:17.00 | abbat_w | i don't have 3 row of 12 buttons, i put on bars only spells with cooldowns and for range look |
| 09:17.36 | Sole | abbat you're making me feel guilty for not writing antagonist2 :P |
| 09:17.40 | Grum | rob`: you can easily get 6-700 spelldmg with a couple of items :) |
| 09:17.52 | Grum | Sole: write it! |
| 09:18.02 | Sole | Grum: I just finished my last exam today! |
| 09:18.04 | Sole | Grum: so I just might |
| 09:18.17 | abbat_w | Sole, why? Antagonist need one great feature i think |
| 09:18.18 | Grum | start now! stop chatting! start coding! (what does Antagonist do btw?) |
| 09:18.19 | Diao | hm |
| 09:18.26 | Diao | with just 5 pieces of gear you can hit 1k unbuffed dmg? o_O |
| 09:18.34 | Sole | abbat_w: what feature is that? |
| 09:18.52 | Grum | Diao: could be true actually :D |
| 09:19.16 | Sole | abbat_w: Im thinking of adding background tracking. So it shows castbars/cooldowns/buffs of your target when you switch to them instead of only showing the stuff timers after you targeted them. |
| 09:19.23 | CIA-22 | 03deccard * r48723 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 09:19.23 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 09:19.23 | CIA-22 | - possible fix for sometimes minimizing to 1 pixel less than needed |
| 09:20.40 | abbat_w | Sole, yes. This is first. And second great feature what i see in NECB |
| 09:20.58 | Sole | abbat_w: Im not doing boss timers :P |
| 09:21.17 | abbat_w | It's mark bars with "T" or "F" depending on bar of focus target or current target |
| 09:21.47 | Sole | oh yeah thats cool |
| 09:21.54 | Sole | I'll have to do that |
| 09:22.01 | abbat_w | For example, i set focus on priest. If priest start cast something i want to mark castbar with 'F' |
| 09:22.13 | Sole | Ive seen it, I know what ya mean |
| 09:22.31 | Sole | I'll most likely have to create my own timer bar system instead of using Candybar |
| 09:22.42 | abbat_w | Sometimes at arenas i have no time to compare name from castbar and name on focus frame ;) So, i cast cs and... wrong target ;) |
| 09:22.48 | Sole | which I guess could be quite an interesting experiment |
| 09:23.13 | Sole | Ive been hearing rumours that Spell Lock and Counterspell aren't showing up as cooldowns |
| 09:23.22 | Sole | but seeing as Im a rogue I dont generally see them in pvp |
| 09:23.24 | abbat_w | Yes, Sole |
| 09:23.37 | Sole | why in the hell is it just those 2 then =\ |
| 09:23.46 | abbat_w | This is because Blizzard remove from combat log info about who cast cs/spellock |
| 09:24.16 | abbat_w | But i hack antagonist and now mod detect cs/spelllock by cheking friendly units debuff ;) |
| 09:24.25 | abbat_w | But i can't know who cast this |
| 09:24.37 | Sole | yeah but I use the UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events for target/focus detection |
| 09:24.40 | Sole | so those should work |
| 09:25.01 | abbat_w | Now this works like ['Spellock: unknow' 26s] ;) |
| 09:25.37 | abbat_w | Same for Silence, Counterspell |
| 09:26.22 | abbat_w | Sole, it's very bad what you play by rogue, not a caster ;) |
| 09:26.45 | Grum | for shadowdmg only .. weap: 194+9+9+54, shadoweave 179+6x9, spellstrike: 92+6x9+22+35 .. would be: 702 shadoomdmg |
| 09:27.01 | Grum | on 6 items |
| 09:27.13 | Grum | hmm 1k not doable so it seems =D |
| 09:27.15 | abbat_w | Grum, so, with rest items you should get 1k+ dmg |
| 09:27.23 | Grum | easily |
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| 09:27.40 | Sole | abbat_w: well I dont play very much at all anymore really. But Im thinking of leveling my shaman or shadowpriest so that should get me to see stuff from a caster's point of view |
| 09:27.50 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:27.57 | Grum | then level shadoompriest .. that is a caster .. shaman .. bleh :D |
| 09:28.06 | Grum | silly totem-provider ;D |
| 09:28.11 | abbat_w | Pff... |
| 09:28.19 | abbat_w | no, shaman great class |
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| 09:29.01 | abbat_w | Try to plat with shaman in pvp and look at support which shaman can do |
| 09:29.06 | cryogen | shadowpriest is ludicrously easy to level |
| 09:29.06 | abbat_w | plat == play |
| 09:29.11 | cryogen | shaman is significantly more fun |
| 09:29.28 | cryogen | (imo of course, ymmv) |
| 09:29.43 | abbat_w | I play only by mage. Never play another class. But i think to start druid |
| 09:30.00 | Grum | druid is easily leveling :) |
| 09:30.09 | abbat_w | I like how druid look in cat/trabel forms ;) |
| 09:30.12 | Grum | at lvl40 you have 1.1k attack power and 30% crit orso O.o |
| 09:30.13 | abbat_w | travel |
| 09:30.24 | Grum | so you like pussy? O.o |
| 09:30.40 | abbat_w | no |
| 09:30.45 | abbat_w | i have dog. Doberman ;) |
| 09:30.55 | Recluse | lol |
| 09:30.58 | orionshock | druid ... easy lvl? |
| 09:31.02 | orionshock | pve'er |
| 09:31.04 | abbat_w | and don't like cats ;) |
| 09:31.53 | Grum | pve > pvp! |
| 09:32.04 | Sole | ... |
| 09:32.10 | abbat_w | You start a holy war, Grum! ;) |
| 09:32.12 | nevcairiel | wow is a pve game |
| 09:32.16 | nevcairiel | accept it |
| 09:32.18 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:32.21 | abbat_w | never! |
| 09:32.26 | Grum | if you want to pvp .. go play a fps orso O.o |
| 09:32.33 | cryogen | nevcairiel: actually with the advent of arenas, that is no longer true |
| 09:32.37 | Sole | what if I play an fps and WoW!? |
| 09:32.39 | Sole | HUH |
| 09:32.40 | cryogen | blizzard now balance the game around the 2v2/3v3 arenas |
| 09:32.42 | nevcairiel | arenas are kinda boring |
| 09:32.46 | nevcairiel | give me real open pvp |
| 09:32.48 | nevcairiel | and we talk |
| 09:32.50 | Grum | all the time blizzard spends on the pvp-wanking could be spend finetuning our pve dungeons and creating new ones! |
| 09:32.51 | abbat_w | Do you know what playing by mage is more fun then you play fps like Quake? :) |
| 09:33.16 | Grum | abbat_w: wait till they nref mages |
| 09:33.19 | Sole | nev: arenas were made to put WoW into the eSports scene. They couldve done a better job but they put the foot in the door at least |
| 09:33.23 | abbat_w | Nerf? |
| 09:33.28 | abbat_w | Mages? :) |
| 09:33.29 | Grum | or give everyone 100 resist inherent orso ;D |
| 09:33.29 | abbat_w | lol |
| 09:33.37 | abbat_w | mages ok |
| 09:33.47 | abbat_w | Only one class need to be nerfed. It's a lock |
| 09:33.49 | Grum | or have resist reduce the flat dmg |
| 09:33.55 | Sole | Im enjoying fury for my pvp fix though atm |
| 09:33.58 | abbat_w | And only for unlimited mana/unlimited hp |
| 09:34.01 | nevcairiel | WotlK wants to add more open pvp |
| 09:34.05 | Sole | good |
| 09:34.08 | nevcairiel | with bonuses for the whole world and all |
| 09:34.12 | Sole | open pvp was very fun |
| 09:34.19 | abbat_w | In arena context unlimited mana is a key for win ;( |
| 09:34.21 | Sole | I think the world pvp objectives in BC kinda failed |
| 09:34.23 | Grum | openarea pvp might be more fun indeed |
| 09:34.33 | nevcairiel | arenas are eSport, not more |
| 09:34.35 | Grum | Sole: but they hid it nicely away so you arent bothered if you pve |
| 09:34.51 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, maybe. i like it anyway |
| 09:35.05 | nevcairiel | alot of people do |
| 09:35.06 | Sole | Grum: meh I like to focus on pvp/pve |
| 09:35.09 | nevcairiel | i play it too |
| 09:35.11 | abbat_w | On my server we have good pvp in nagrand btw |
| 09:35.14 | nevcairiel | but i still prefer any open pvp |
| 09:35.18 | nevcairiel | or pve for that matter |
| 09:35.19 | Sole | I like both nev |
| 09:35.20 | abbat_w | Sometimes up to 20 vs 20 at Haala |
| 09:35.29 | Sole | I miss the old school open pvp days |
| 09:35.31 | Grum | as long as you have the choice to participate or not .. it's fine with me |
| 09:35.32 | Sole | so much fun :( |
| 09:35.40 | Sole | Grum: thats womantalk! |
| 09:35.48 | Grum | any pvp-zone can be made as long as i can just walk through it pve minding my own business |
| 09:35.52 | Sole | I play on a balanced population server though |
| 09:35.55 | [Ammo] | that's what they invented pve servers for |
| 09:36.02 | abbat_w | old school open pvp? i remember Kargath's days... |
| 09:36.11 | Grum | Sole: i cba killing 'hordes' .. i've got grinding to do for my pve :D |
| 09:36.12 | [Ammo] | play on a pvp server, and just kill at will :) |
| 09:36.18 | nevcairiel | old school open pvp was mainly us raiding orgrimmar |
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| 09:36.25 | Sole | hehe |
| 09:36.27 | nevcairiel | dunno when horde actually raided anything on our server |
| 09:36.37 | Sole | we constantly raided alliance towns |
| 09:36.39 | abbat_w | We kill IF King btw |
| 09:36.42 | [Ammo] | my character only has 11k total kills |
| 09:36.43 | abbat_w | 40 ppl raid |
| 09:36.48 | [Ammo] | but 8k kills outdoor pvping |
| 09:36.53 | [Ammo] | approx |
| 09:36.55 | nevcairiel | i have 20k kills |
| 09:36.56 | abbat_w | I have about 150k frags |
| 09:36.59 | nevcairiel | old AV times |
| 09:37.01 | Grum | i have <200 kills ^^ |
| 09:37.08 | Grum | and i think <1000 on all my chars |
| 09:37.14 | Sole | and then when honor system went live we did a lot of 5-man hunting groups before the BGs |
| 09:37.17 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:37.18 | Sole | Ive got 25k I think |
| 09:37.27 | abbat_w | <-- 12 rank, General |
| 09:37.27 | Sole | I didnt bother with the BG grind much |
| 09:37.37 | Sole | lol |
| 09:37.43 | Sole | abbat_w: my guildy had 220k :P |
| 09:37.45 | theoddone33 | 70k some |
| 09:37.52 | orionshock | hehe.. no there is an interesting event "ITEM_PUSH" |
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| 09:38.02 | Sole | he got to warlord, then he had to leave for a few month to go work in Hong Kong |
| 09:38.09 | Wobin_ | orionshock: First event is always free |
| 09:38.09 | theoddone33 | aw I was wrong |
| 09:38.10 | Sole | then he came back at centurion and went to HWL |
| 09:38.12 | abbat_w | Sole, i think he never be in mc/bwl/aq/etc ;) |
| 09:38.15 | theoddone33 | 58,954 |
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| 09:38.41 | theoddone33 | but now I've pretty much given up on pvp :( |
| 09:38.47 | orionshock | how so Wobin_ ? |
| 09:38.47 | Grum | Whats better for a warlock? Battlecast or Spellstrike? |
| 09:39.12 | abbat_w | spellstrike has nice spelldamage proc |
| 09:39.20 | [Ammo] | Grum: shadoweave |
| 09:39.26 | Sole | abbat_w: no we took him to all the instances. It was hilarious brining him along because hes one of the funniest people Ive met + hes asian. Everytime we killed a boss we'd hear him yelling on vent "WTF WHERES MY HONOR!?" |
| 09:39.29 | Grum | [Ammo]: the pieces co-exist |
| 09:39.33 | abbat_w | battlecast only have 5% on spell pushback... |
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| 09:39.43 | Grum | so next to shadoweave i also need something else :) |
| 09:39.52 | Grum | but likely spellstrike? |
| 09:39.53 | nevcairiel | Grum: get spellstrike imho |
| 09:40.00 | cryogen | i remember taking rank 14 warriors into mc |
| 09:40.04 | cryogen | they did kinda insane dps |
| 09:40.09 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:40.12 | cryogen | back when dps warriors didnt suck |
| 09:40.14 | nevcairiel | except you like stacking alot of sta |
| 09:40.17 | nevcairiel | then get battlecast :P |
| 09:40.27 | Grum | dps warriors still dont suck if they have nice gear |
| 09:40.38 | theoddone33 | one guy on alleria got rank 14, then proceeded to spec fury and use those weapons to destroy damage meters |
| 09:40.39 | abbat_w | in old times, r12/r13/r14 rank gear and weapon are equal to t2 |
| 09:40.48 | theoddone33 | got a ton of epics then sold his account for like $2k |
| 09:40.57 | theoddone33 | the very next day the guy who bought it got banned |
| 09:41.19 | abbat_w | Grum, make both btw |
| 09:41.32 | Grum | abbat_w: hehe expensive! :D |
| 09:41.35 | abbat_w | Grum, spellstrike and battlecast. I have both for example ;) |
| 09:41.44 | abbat_w | And now i drop tailoring |
| 09:41.47 | Grum | man that is a lot of primals O.o |
| 09:42.04 | Grum | you've got no shadoweave? |
| 09:42.16 | abbat_w | Hmm.. but dayli quests take you nice amount of money |
| 09:42.23 | Grum | lol |
| 09:42.27 | abbat_w | 1.5-2h for 150g |
| 09:42.30 | abbat_w | each day |
| 09:42.31 | Grum | doing dailies kills your brain |
| 09:42.33 | Grum | yes .. |
| 09:42.45 | abbat_w | ahah ;) |
| 09:42.46 | abbat_w | why? |
| 09:43.25 | ramoz | it just does |
| 09:43.31 | Grum | ok lets compare |
| 09:43.36 | Grum | 150g in 2hrs |
| 09:43.41 | abbat_w | for example, while i do rep with netherwing, i make shadowfrost set in a week |
| 09:44.08 | Grum | 1500g is ~50 euros if you buy it |
| 09:44.14 | abbat_w | also on my server there some outdoor pvp |
| 09:44.25 | Grum | so you are working for ... 5 euro per 2 hrs ... basicly 2.5 euro per hour to get your money |
| 09:44.44 | Grum | i wouldn't even get up for that amount of money :D |
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| 09:44.57 | abbat_w | Grum, i don't raiding |
| 09:45.04 | Grum | so you have all the time in the world |
| 09:45.05 | abbat_w | I don't like to collect purples ;) |
| 09:45.17 | ramoz | purples is the meaning of this game |
| 09:45.27 | abbat_w | nope |
| 09:45.33 | Grum | i get home, confirm the raid, make food, eat food, have a council chat and we run the raid till 23:30 and we stop, chat and go to bed :D |
| 09:45.59 | Recluse | purple != wow o.O |
| 09:46.06 | Grum | orange == wow! |
| 09:46.10 | Recluse | lol |
| 09:46.16 | ramoz | Grum is right |
| 09:46.16 | abbat_w | i get home, eat, run wow, look film, run some bg, eat, look some sites, run some arenas, do 1-2 dailies |
| 09:46.17 | abbat_w | etc |
| 09:46.35 | ramoz | now Grum; time to release that addon |
| 09:46.37 | abbat_w | I don't work in WoW now. I stop raiding ;) |
| 09:46.51 | Grum | ramoz: oh stfu .. try to see where i can put in time to make the addon during my daily routine O.o |
| 09:47.06 | abbat_w | I don't farm honor on BGs. I just like pvp. And it's fun for me to run it |
| 09:47.09 | Recluse | i stopped raiding when expansion launched, and i have no desire to go back to that horrendous life XD |
| 09:47.27 | Grum | Recluse: the raiding has become more fun than pre tbc imho |
| 09:47.33 | abbat_w | Same for me. I never be in raids since tbc launched |
| 09:47.46 | ramoz | Grum: you can clearly stop the 'make food, eat food,' thinigs :D |
| 09:47.57 | abbat_w | ahah ;) |
| 09:48.00 | Recluse | lol |
| 09:48.02 | Grum | ramoz: yeah i skip that occasionally to farm some herbs pre-raid :D |
| 09:48.11 | Grum | and have my gf make food! |
| 09:48.11 | abbat_w | Btw my raiding days was horrible |
| 09:48.14 | Grum | (like tonight :PP) |
| 09:48.24 | [Ammo] | I can imagine, 40 french people in a raid |
| 09:48.24 | ramoz | Good idea, release tomorrow then? D: |
| 09:48.28 | [Ammo] | that can't be good |
| 09:48.33 | abbat_w | Go to home, small food, and Raid from 21.00 to 01.00 - 02.00 |
| 09:48.35 | [Ammo] | ;p :p :p |
| 09:48.38 | Grum | abbat_w: i stopped wow when BWL just came out because it 'just wasnt fun with 40 people' |
| 09:48.47 | abbat_w | then sleep and damn, morning, work.... |
| 09:48.55 | ramoz | Recluse: i agree, 2.0, karazhan, gruul, maggy, ssc and tk are fucking boring |
| 09:49.05 | ramoz | but BT is the best instance i've ever seen! |
| 09:49.06 | abbat_w | Hmmm... I like bwl. |
| 09:49.09 | ramoz | its like BWL all over! |
| 09:49.11 | Grum | ramoz: hehe |
| 09:49.16 | abbat_w | Possible it was much fun raids for me |
| 09:49.18 | Grum | i want wait till i get to BWL :) |
| 09:49.26 | Grum | but Kara has lots of cool fights |
| 09:49.31 | Grum | magtheridon is fun in some way as well |
| 09:49.35 | Recluse | it's a scary thing to examine the return value if it is called too often. somevar = Grum:MakeFood(girlfriend, dinner) |
| 09:49.36 | abbat_w | I spent 600 dkp for Staff of Shadow Flame! ;) |
| 09:49.37 | Grum | and i think like SSC bosses a lot |
| 09:49.40 | abbat_w | I remember this! |
| 09:50.08 | Grum | s/think // |
| 09:50.22 | Grum | for now that is :D |
| 09:50.24 | abbat_w | i never see ssc/tk/bt |
| 09:50.29 | abbat_w | only kara/gruul |
| 09:50.35 | abbat_w | magtheridon also |
| 09:50.37 | Grum | gruul is completely horrible |
| 09:50.41 | Recluse | ramoz: it's not about being boring or fun, it's about the raid guild atmosphere that drives me away |
| 09:50.44 | Grum | seriously wonky stupid fight |
| 09:50.56 | theoddone33 | mmm I don't like pve much |
| 09:51.02 | theoddone33 | but it's all that's left tod o |
| 09:51.05 | Grum | Recluse: problem is finding people with the same mindset |
| 09:51.11 | Recluse | i think it'd be different if my real life friends played and we had an endgame guild |
| 09:51.11 | Grum | one wanky-slacker in your raid can wipe your ass now |
| 09:51.19 | Grum | but luckily you only need 25 |
| 09:51.41 | Recluse | D= where am i gonna find 25 friends?! j/k :p |
| 09:51.41 | Grum | i love to do new bosses |
| 09:51.49 | abbat_w | Yes |
| 09:51.51 | Grum | we did Al'ar yesterday for the second time - so much fun :D |
| 09:52.01 | Grum | 10% in phase2 .. sigh :( |
| 09:52.03 | abbat_w | This is fun do first kill ;) |
| 09:52.17 | Grum | yeah :D |
| 09:52.19 | abbat_w | even if not a server first but guild first |
| 09:52.19 | [Ammo] | Grum tell people to watch their surroundings better :) |
| 09:52.27 | Grum | [Ammo]: raid-setup was wonky |
| 09:52.32 | Grum | we had 6 tanks and 7 healers |
| 09:52.42 | Grum | and tanks died from quills (i seriously nearly killed them) |
| 09:52.53 | Grum | we should take 4 tanks tonight and possibly even 6 healers |
| 09:52.58 | Recluse | my last raid guild (pre expansion) used elitist asshats as raid leads, and so it made for a huge drama nightmare 24/7 |
| 09:53.19 | Grum | yeah we had the same Recluse |
| 09:53.27 | Grum | and having one asshat leading makes it completely NOT SO MUCH FUN :D |
| 09:54.21 | abbat_w | 'elitist asshats'? |
| 09:54.26 | abbat_w | what is it? |
| 09:54.40 | Recluse | lol |
| 09:55.12 | abbat_w | yes it's completly new for me. never see before 'elitist asshats' |
| 09:59.54 | Grum | think of an asshat |
| 10:00.22 | Grum | and then think of one that believes he is your superior in every single way .. so you have to ask him which hand to use to wipe your ass |
| 10:03.55 | orionshock | guess ck has loged for the night.. |
| 10:04.01 | Grum | ofc! |
| 10:04.07 | orionshock | anyone know if he finished converting over pitbull? |
| 10:04.13 | Recluse | when your raid lead stops in the middle of MC/BWL/AQ to give a 45-minute public ass chewing to one of your priests who asked a mage for some water instead of stocking up before coming to the raid, it puts a damper on the spirit of the whole thing |
| 10:04.55 | orionshock | Recluse: /script LeaveGroup() /gquit /2 LF Guild that doesn't suck |
| 10:05.10 | Recluse | lol |
| 10:05.11 | orionshock | :D unless your reading fourms |
| 10:05.23 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 10:05.42 | Recluse | oh, i did leave the guild. i stuck it out until expansion but i left |
| 10:05.48 | Grum | Recluse: i mostly trade mages during the first pull for water =D |
| 10:05.48 | Punkie` | does making Pitbull rock somehow magically improve it? :o |
| 10:05.52 | Grum | and they are used to it by now =D |
| 10:05.55 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r48724 10Cartographer/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Cartographer: fixed zhTW localization |
| 10:06.18 | orionshock | Punkie`: don't know -- not the author.. i'd like to know b/c im a sucker for beta testing and have a nack to find glitches |
| 10:06.56 | Punkie` | suit yourself |
| 10:07.03 | Grum | beats being nekid |
| 10:08.44 | orionshock | then again i find this strange correlation in performance fu ; if you add the increese memory in libs ... it comes close to "Ace2"'s increase in memory ... i find this rather odd |
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| 10:09.23 | Punkie` | The human brain is good at finding patterns in random data |
| 10:09.35 | orionshock | hehe |
| 10:09.51 | Punkie` | It's actually true :) |
| 10:10.00 | orionshock | then again i should consider brakeing up ace2 into it's modules... then take another look at performance fu |
| 10:11.48 | orionshock | i don't know what or why... but for some reason i have convinced myself that ace2 mods are shitt'n up framerate; don't know why .. and i'll eventualy find out ... or i'll get a better computer and stop caring :D |
| 10:12.15 | sylvanaar | funkeh and i did that one time just to see if it'd work |
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| 10:12.23 | Punkie` | or maybe you should stop consolodating 'Ace2' mods to be the cause of your problem |
| 10:12.35 | cryogen | orionshock: well, i was seeing similar things to you, so i conducted an experiment to remove all my 'ace' mods and installed 'non ace' versions |
| 10:12.35 | Punkie` | like any addons, there are good and badly written ones |
| 10:12.39 | Punkie` | Ace2 or not |
| 10:12.40 | cryogen | orionshock: my memory usage dropped significantly |
| 10:12.53 | cryogen | orionshock: i think i know why though :) |
| 10:12.57 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 10:12.59 | cryogen | and it's nothing to do with 'ace' really |
| 10:13.18 | orionshock | a good author is a good author |
| 10:13.38 | orionshock | sylvanaar: did that work.. ? |
| 10:13.49 | Punkie` | I use Ace2 addons and I use non-Ace2 addons |
| 10:13.52 | cryogen | my conclusion was i installed an asston of little mods because a) they were ace, and b) ace mods tend to be "one purpose only" so I had to install many mods to get what i wanted |
| 10:14.02 | sylvanaar | yeah, we fixed the tocs so they should still work |
| 10:14.34 | cryogen | but yes the definitive answer i came up with is "a good mod is a good mod" :) |
| 10:14.39 | orionshock | hell i made an addon today... |
| 10:14.52 | orionshock | decided to be lazy and use ace-event ... :D |
| 10:15.04 | cryogen | what really ticks me off is there is no good alternative to autobar, it's so good :D |
| 10:15.05 | Grum | using common libraries makes upgrading easier, using one source versus multiple makes upgrading easier .. |
| 10:15.32 | orionshock | i didn't feel like figuring out how an event handler works... |
| 10:16.02 | cryogen | the benefits of using something like ace come when you have a lot of ace addons |
| 10:16.06 | Punkie` | What did you do orionshock? |
| 10:16.13 | cryogen | it seems to me a little wasteful to install ace + a ton of libs to just support one addon |
| 10:16.26 | Punkie` | cryogen: You mean Ace2 |
| 10:16.32 | cryogen | Punkie`: of course |
| 10:16.42 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.16 | orionshock | Ace2 ... == a "large" framework of any sort |
| 10:17.27 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.35 | cryogen | well, quite |
| 10:17.36 | orionshock | Ace2 / a "large" framework of any sort |
| 10:17.44 | sylvanaar | i think that is chicken and egg |
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| 10:18.18 | cryogen | im taking autobar as an example, it drags in a ton of shit for the relatively small job it does |
| 10:18.29 | CIA-22 | 03woody * r48726 10Modality_Bongos2/: Modality_Bongos2: Creating empty folder for new addon. |
| 10:18.31 | cryogen | shit you would already have if you were using a ace unitframes, or omen, or anything similar |
| 10:18.39 | cryogen | but on its own seems a little excessive |
| 10:18.57 | cryogen | im not even sure im making a point here, im just rambling :) |
| 10:19.03 | sylvanaar | single case is always going to be that way |
| 10:19.08 | Punkie` | it's pretty true |
| 10:19.09 | orionshock | tbh .. that's sorta the main idea arround any of the 4? frameworks... is that you'll use a lot of addons centered arround it, thus making it worth while |
| 10:19.11 | sylvanaar | "why not copy/paste" |
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| 10:19.49 | sylvanaar | that's approximately where that line of reasoning goes |
| 10:19.52 | cryogen | yeah the reason i mention it is i am now in the position |
| 10:19.55 | cryogen | without an alternative |
| 10:19.59 | cryogen | so obviously i am a little narked as a user :) |
| 10:20.29 | cryogen | i have a completely different ui setup on my desktop and laptop now, it's weird but cool at the same time |
| 10:20.31 | Punkie` | Some of the problem is that there are libraries that do too much |
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| 10:20.58 | Diao | what's modality o_O |
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| 10:21.23 | nevcairiel | i am not exactly sure |
| 10:21.26 | nevcairiel | the author PMed me |
| 10:21.28 | sylvanaar | Because that's bad, doing less is better, always. |
| 10:22.34 | Recluse | like, as in people using the libraries are only using a small subset of them currently? |
| 10:22.37 | cryogen | and i dont know if devs do this on purpose, but ace mods as a general rule have terrible, terrible guids |
| 10:22.41 | cryogen | guis* |
| 10:22.46 | orionshock | ok who ever made recount synch .. needs to go DIAF |
| 10:23.25 | orionshock | synch in combat == dumb and assinine |
| 10:23.36 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r48729 10Modality/: Modality: branching for experimental work. |
| 10:23.39 | sylvanaar | guis are obnoxiously tedious in wow |
| 10:24.14 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r48730 10Modality_Bartender3/: Modality_Bartender3: branching for experimental work. |
| 10:24.57 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r48731 10Modality_Bongos2/: Modality_Bongos2: branching for experimental work. |
| 10:26.06 | cryogen | not as tedious as setting things up as a user with slash commands or fubar options :) |
| 10:26.19 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 10:26.26 | sylvanaar | it is more tedious |
| 10:26.37 | cryogen | i beg to differ, and users are always right! |
| 10:26.39 | Nargiddley | you're welcome to go write a better gui lib :P |
| 10:26.52 | orionshock | i don't mind fubar |
| 10:26.53 | cryogen | Nargiddley: im a user not a developer :) |
| 10:27.16 | cryogen | (a user with an interest in development but still a user) |
| 10:27.20 | Nargiddley | ah one of those.. |
| 10:27.24 | orionshock | cryogen: saying that the customer is always right is a easy way to get those that work CSR to hate you :P |
| 10:27.39 | cryogen | orionshock: having worked in CSR in the past, i am allowed :D |
| 10:27.43 | sylvanaar | Im refering to the wow api |
| 10:27.45 | orionshock | ass |
| 10:28.06 | cryogen | worst job ever, btw |
| 10:28.17 | Nargiddley | and yeah the wow api is pita |
| 10:29.03 | cryogen | the ace2 guilib itself isnt so bad |
| 10:29.21 | Nargiddley | which gui lib ? |
| 10:29.24 | [Ammo] | users should just be happy that some others provide a way to config stuff |
| 10:29.26 | cryogen | its just the way it works, the addons that use it tend to be structured for slash commands/fubar menus, so it doesnt fit together in a logical way |
| 10:29.31 | [Ammo] | s/others/authors/ |
| 10:29.43 | cryogen | [Ammo]: im not even listening to your opinions on users. :p |
| 10:29.46 | Nargiddley | config is a bit different to gui, but yeah |
| 10:30.04 | Nargiddley | badly designed options will suck no matter how you display them |
| 10:30.05 | cryogen | Nargiddley: not sure what its called.. the one that just wraps up all options into a standard gui |
| 10:30.11 | cryogen | but like duece commander but gui |
| 10:30.15 | orionshock | use simple addons that don't need alot of configureation |
| 10:30.18 | cryogen | s/but/bit/ |
| 10:30.33 | Nargiddley | that would be waterfall then for the lib, niagara that pulls all addons into one |
| 10:30.37 | [Ammo] | bigwigs for instance tries to have a sane default and should not require much configuration |
| 10:31.04 | [Ammo] | and for that configuration we offer the choice of a small dropdown menu or a waterfall config screen |
| 10:31.15 | cryogen | waterfall is the one i was thinking of yes |
| 10:31.16 | Nargiddley | yeah i had vhaar prodding me for hours getting it working well for the bigwigs config |
| 10:31.21 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:31.47 | cryogen | bigwigs is an exception, its actually pretty nice to configure |
| 10:31.53 | cryogen | grid on the other hand, is a complete nightmare |
| 10:32.21 | Nargiddley | waterfalls mine btw which trumps your user card on the go write a better one comment :P |
| 10:32.31 | cryogen | yeah i gathered that :) |
| 10:32.36 | cryogen | and waterfall is nice in theory |
| 10:32.45 | [Ammo] | the idea is that if you think about your configuration you can make a decent generated config |
| 10:32.46 | cryogen | but it doesnt help grid for example |
| 10:32.49 | cryogen | just makes it worse |
| 10:32.55 | [Ammo] | and vhaarr had a good hard thinking |
| 10:33.03 | [Ammo] | which makes the bigwigs configuration work |
| 10:33.04 | cryogen | yes and that much is obvious |
| 10:33.15 | [Ammo] | others just dump in a metric shitton of options |
| 10:33.17 | Nargiddley | yep, bigwigs shows how to do it right |
| 10:33.40 | cryogen | glad im not imaging it then :) |
| 10:33.45 | cryogen | imagining |
| 10:34.07 | orionshock | .... meh.. tbh i like the rock config... the way that it adapted waterfall in was done rather well |
| 10:34.35 | cryogen | pitbull is a bit of a pain to configure too |
| 10:34.49 | sylvanaar | well first you have to get the menu to come up |
| 10:35.15 | orionshock | pit bull is also a hog of an addon that has a "metric-shit-ton" of options |
| 10:35.34 | cryogen | yeah but a nice gui with tabbed pages and tickboxes improves it no end |
| 10:35.44 | cryogen | like xperl for example |
| 10:35.56 | cryogen | xperl is great to configure but lacks features |
| 10:36.20 | orionshock | surprises me that no one has made a template gui after x-perl's method |
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| 10:36.51 | Sole | does anybody know what addon this is? http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2576/arenatrackerki8.jpg |
| 10:37.07 | Diao | gladiator? |
| 10:37.23 | orionshock | maybe |
| 10:37.30 | cryogen | areanamaster? or whatever it was called |
| 10:37.36 | Diao | it looks a lot like the gladiator frame |
| 10:37.51 | Diao | and by a lot i mean exactly |
| 10:37.52 | orionshock | no team or rating tho |
| 10:37.55 | cryogen | arenamaster is similar at least |
| 10:38.07 | Diao | doesn't gladiator only show team/rating if they're high ranked |
| 10:38.19 | orionshock | by default top 300 |
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| 10:38.56 | orionshock | you can grab a deep scan off the fourms |
| 10:38.59 | orionshock | or request one |
| 10:40.38 | Sole | guys |
| 10:40.40 | Sole | I fucking wrote gladiator |
| 10:40.51 | Sole | its not gladiator which is why Im curious :P |
| 10:40.52 | Diao | lol |
| 10:41.12 | orionshock | lol |
| 10:41.27 | Sole | it has the same frame but it has elements of proximo in it |
| 10:41.51 | Sole | but I checked the proximo page and grayhoof's screenshot shows the proximo frame (different) |
| 10:42.38 | Sole | thats a bad screenshot |
| 10:42.38 | Diao | what's proximo do differently :O |
| 10:42.46 | Sole | well its complete for one |
| 10:43.10 | Sole | it shows mana bars and shows which group member is targeting who |
| 10:43.32 | Diao | oh |
| 10:43.34 | Sole | it also draws a box around your target's element |
| 10:43.42 | Sole | but it looks pretty different |
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| 10:43.57 | Sole | which is what I dont like about it. looks a bit weird to me |
| 10:44.10 | Sole | hard to keep track of it |
| 10:44.24 | Sole | feature-wise though its nifty :) |
| 10:44.30 | Sole | grayhoof did a good job |
| 10:44.37 | orionshock | you got a src link for that pic? |
| 10:45.43 | Sole | its from Xantims 6 movie |
| 10:45.57 | Sole | might go see if hes on BG9 irc actually |
| 10:45.59 | Sole | brb |
| 10:46.19 | orionshock | .. bg9? |
| 10:46.42 | orionshock | how does one establish the numbers to battlegroup ? |
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| 10:46.51 | Diao | !ap 1800 |
| 10:46.52 | ThraeBot | Diao: Arena points from a rating of 1800 is, 2v2: 532, 3v3: 608, 5v5: 760 |
| 10:47.05 | Sole | orionshock: before battlegroups were given names we had numbers |
| 10:47.27 | Sole | orionshock: bg9 is a 'hardcore pvp' battlegroup. or so we claim :P |
| 10:47.35 | Sole | gotta love being an e-ass |
| 10:47.39 | Diao | it's the tichondrius blackrock etc group |
| 10:48.13 | Sole | yep |
| 10:48.15 | mbp | !ap 1509 |
| 10:48.15 | ThraeBot | mbp: Arena points from a rating of 1509 is, 2v2: 270, 3v3: 308, 5v5: 385 |
| 10:48.30 | Sole | bg9 is where a lot of the big WSVG players chill out |
| 10:48.39 | Sole | hence the 'pvp bg' tag |
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| 10:49.21 | cryogen | i thought the whole point of battlegroups was to make that sort of thing not neccary :) |
| 10:49.24 | orionshock | irc is scary to me... |
| 10:49.44 | ramoz | 3whats the name of BG9? |
| 10:49.47 | cryogen | suppose it will never be quite enough for some people |
| 10:49.54 | orionshock | im not sure i wana know what +tn means in chatzilla |
| 10:50.02 | Diao | lol |
| 10:50.09 | cryogen | orionshock: it's the channel's "mode" :) |
| 10:50.22 | Diao | bloodlust |
| 10:50.25 | cryogen | t means only channel operators can set the topic, n means only people in this channel can send messages into it |
| 10:50.33 | cryogen | but you didnt want to know so i wont tell you :) |
| 10:50.55 | orionshock | i looked it up teh other day actually on google :P |
| 10:51.30 | sylvanaar | im in that one, i dont know what's hardcore about it |
| 10:53.03 | ramoz | is this US or EU? |
| 10:53.11 | orionshock | & same thing who the f makes someone a channel op? -- some weird irc interaction? |
| 10:53.20 | Diao | US |
| 10:53.31 | sylvanaar | then again - the matching system is supposed to hide me from the hardcores |
| 10:53.38 | Diao | um |
| 10:53.53 | Diao | the chanserv makes people ops based on access lists set by the channel founder |
| 10:53.59 | Diao | and/or other ops |
| 10:54.16 | orionshock | right that much was infered |
| 10:54.42 | sylvanaar | its there so you dont have to have a bot on 24/7 to maintain ownership of a channel |
| 10:54.55 | orionshock | ... but is chanserv in every channel by default or do you have to invite it to your channel somehow ...? |
| 10:55.01 | Diao | when you register a channel |
| 10:55.09 | Diao | you can set the interactions |
| 10:56.08 | orionshock | ah... learn something new every day... |
| 10:57.09 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: thank you, I spent some time on it indeed |
| 10:58.31 | cryogen | orionshock: /msg nickserv help and /msg chanserv help |
| 10:58.44 | cryogen | orionshock: generally though, people with chanop make other chanops, the first person to enter a channel gets chanop by default |
| 10:59.08 | Corgan | Anyone here played the quake wars demo? |
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| 11:00.39 | orionshock | well ... to sleep with me... |
| 11:00.50 | kebinusan | nope how is it, it looked pretty |
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| 11:01.09 | orionshock | if you play something other than druid / rogue / lock.. hit up the Hourglass thread...there is some needed class information left to be had :D |
| 11:01.28 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 11:01.35 | orionshock | and can't wait till patch... |
| 11:01.39 | orionshock | it's gona be grate :P |
| 11:01.53 | Corgan | Quake wars is crazy fun >< |
| 11:02.34 | cncfanatics | meh, giev something intresting to do in WoW :p |
| 11:06.34 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r48732 10Modality/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Modality: commiting experimental refactoring to support multiple actionbar addons. |
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| 11:15.20 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r48735 10Modality/ (Modality.toc libs/): Modality: Adding embedded Ace2 lib |
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| 11:38.25 | Sole | ok that addon I linked was actually proximo |
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| 11:42.51 | cncfanatics | meh, I hate fixing other people's addons |
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| 11:44.30 | CIA-22 | TipHookerLib: |
| 11:44.31 | CIA-22 | - Added additional check to fix double hooking of frames (Links tooltips hooked twice) |
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| 11:53.35 | cncfanatics | Cycircled = pain in the ass |
| 11:53.39 | cncfanatics | I got to recode some parts of the core, sigh |
| 11:54.16 | Xinhuan | why? |
| 11:54.27 | charon | you should do the vector coil parts first. |
| 11:54.38 | abbat_w | cnc, flexbar should have cyCircled support ;) |
| 11:55.43 | cncfanatics | abbat_w, thats what i'm coding atm |
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| 11:55.49 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, I don't use ButtonNameIcon syntax |
| 11:55.50 | cncfanatics | and stuff |
| 11:55.57 | cncfanatics | I use ButtonName.Icon to polute global namespace les |
| 11:56.09 | cncfanatics | got to adapt cycircled for that |
| 11:56.13 | Xinhuan | no i mean why does it need fixing? o_O |
| 11:56.37 | nevcairiel | i am pretty sure thats possible wihout changing cyCircled |
| 11:56.56 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, can change ButtonNameIcon to ButtonNameWhatever |
| 11:56.58 | abbat_w | cyCircled i think now standard for action bars ;) |
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| 11:57.16 | cncfanatics | but can't tell cyrcircled to do ButtonName.Icon from looking at the code |
| 11:57.20 | nevcairiel | just think out of the box |
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| 11:57.24 | nevcairiel | and dont change the API :o |
| 11:57.36 | abbat_w | what about me, i don't like bt3 dreamlayout skin. cyCircled fix it for me ;) |
| 11:57.51 | abbat_w | cyCircled:Vol - best of the best of the best |
| 11:57.59 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, not changing the api |
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| 11:58.05 | Corgan | eh, Vol unglossed = win |
| 11:58.06 | cncfanatics | won't break other plugins ofc |
| 11:58.11 | abbat_w | yes |
| 11:58.17 | abbat_w | unglossed |
| 11:58.40 | abbat_w | i make some changes it Vol and now i'm fully satifsied with bt3 ;) |
| 11:59.12 | abbat_w | i only miss feature which DAB have. allow user to make bars with more then 12 buttons |
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| 11:59.33 | abbat_w | but i understand why bt3 doesn't have support for this |
| 11:59.39 | cncfanatics | abbat_w, try FB when its stable ? :p |
| 12:00.30 | Eggi | trinity bars is also a nice bar addon |
| 12:00.38 | abbat_w | trynity? |
| 12:00.40 | abbat_w | oh no |
| 12:00.54 | abbat_w | maybe nice but configuration.... |
| 12:01.00 | nevcairiel | i can tell you why bt3 doesnt support larger bars |
| 12:01.04 | nevcairiel | because i dont want it |
| 12:01.08 | abbat_w | =) |
| 12:01.11 | JoshBorke | because nev sucks |
| 12:01.21 | abbat_w | same as AnyDows option, nevc ;) |
| 12:01.25 | Megalon | i want one 120 button bar! |
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| 12:01.50 | nevcairiel | bartender has always been about simplicity, its supposed to stay simple, 10 bars, 12 buttons per bar |
| 12:02.01 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r48737 10HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua: |
| 12:02.01 | CIA-22 | HealComm-2.0: |
| 12:02.01 | CIA-22 | - focus included as possible healable unit |
| 12:02.01 | nevcairiel | thats default UI feeling |
| 12:02.01 | nevcairiel | =simple |
| 12:02.03 | abbat_w | for example. you want to make a 4 x 4 button block |
| 12:02.19 | abbat_w | with bt3 you can do 4x3 or 3x4 and another bar for rest |
| 12:02.30 | cncfanatics | Megalon, why not a 500 button bar ? |
| 12:02.39 | abbat_w | it is possible? |
| 12:02.42 | Megalon | OVER NINETHOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND |
| 12:02.48 | abbat_w | are 120 buttons not a wow limit? |
| 12:02.52 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 12:02.54 | cncfanatics | fb gets around it |
| 12:02.59 | cncfanatics | by storing stuff client side |
| 12:03.03 | abbat_w | ah |
| 12:03.11 | cncfanatics | so u can make 455456151567494654978946216578974651657^445162497656 buttons if you want and got the cpu & mem for it :p |
| 12:03.25 | abbat_w | also i use bar shitching in bt3. nice feature. save space ;) |
| 12:03.51 | abbat_w | one bar with all my buffs and if i press shift this bar changes with bar of portals/teleports |
| 12:03.55 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r48738 10Modality_Bartender3/Modality_Bartender3.lua: Modality_Bartender3: Removing hooks into Bartender3 AceOptions table, and fixing a bug with leftover hidestates attribute after disabling expert modes. |
| 12:04.10 | Corgan | Modality is win. :D |
| 12:04.14 | cncfanatics | what is Modality ? |
| 12:04.21 | Corgan | advanced bar state switching |
| 12:04.29 | cncfanatics | he forgot FB :( |
| 12:04.35 | Corgan | I can set my main bar to switch to bar 6 |
| 12:04.38 | abbat_w | it's for druids/warrs maybe? |
| 12:04.39 | Corgan | if the target if friendly |
| 12:04.45 | abbat_w | ah |
| 12:04.48 | cncfanatics | oh meh that kind of stuff |
| 12:04.50 | Corgan | or any other macro option |
| 12:04.54 | cncfanatics | FB (will) support those by itsself |
| 12:04.58 | nevcairiel | i always wanted to implement that friendly switching in bt3 |
| 12:05.01 | nevcairiel | but i was too lazy |
| 12:05.03 | cncfanatics | its easy |
| 12:05.15 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 12:05.21 | abbat_w | nevcairiel this is because you play by druid ;) |
| 12:05.22 | nevcairiel | like 1 option in my config |
| 12:05.23 | cncfanatics | still got to code it too for it |
| 12:05.30 | cncfanatics | meh, so much left to code :p |
| 12:05.42 | nevcairiel | well, i have a cool option coming |
| 12:05.44 | nevcairiel | for patch 2.3 |
| 12:05.49 | Corgan | ? :o |
| 12:05.49 | nevcairiel | when the API gets fixed |
| 12:05.55 | abbat_w | 2.3 make changes to ui? |
| 12:06.02 | abbat_w | what will be fixed in 2.3? |
| 12:07.09 | abbat_w | btw nevcairiel, i have a macro with '?' icon for my insignia. sometimes bt3 show this action as unequipped, but in real i have insignia equipped |
| 12:07.09 | nevcairiel | i wont tell, or someone steals my feature! |
| 12:07.10 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:07.21 | abbat_w | i use cyCircled also |
| 12:07.22 | nevcairiel | abbat_w: thats a bug in the game, will be fixed in 2.2 |
| 12:07.26 | abbat_w | ah |
| 12:07.29 | abbat_w | nice nice |
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| 12:07.47 | abbat_w | btw! |
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| 12:08.15 | cncfanatics | hmmm, cycircled doesnt unskin before reloading UI ? meh |
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| 12:08.22 | nevcairiel | nup |
| 12:08.29 | abbat_w | if i make a bar with bt1bar.button1 with some action, bt1bar.button2 empty and bt1bar.button3 with some action |
| 12:08.38 | cncfanatics | meh, so much stuff they're gonna add in 2.3 |
| 12:08.40 | cncfanatics | i'm getting excited |
| 12:08.43 | abbat_w | i turn off 'show grid' options |
| 12:08.45 | cncfanatics | will be able to do FULL macro support |
| 12:08.59 | abbat_w | but if i mouseover empty actions, cyCircled show me skin |
| 12:09.38 | ramoz | ya, i have the same abbat_w |
| 12:09.39 | abbat_w | not annoying, but can i remove cyCircled skins on mouseover over empty actions? |
| 12:09.50 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 12:09.52 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 12:09.55 | nevcairiel | its a cy thing |
| 12:10.02 | abbat_w | ;) |
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| 12:12.02 | Corgan | afaik it was because of the action bar state switching |
| 12:12.09 | Corgan | that was bugging out when the buttons weren't visible |
| 12:12.28 | sb | mhhh... armory 'improvement' sucks |
| 12:12.28 | Corgan | while in combat |
| 12:12.40 | sb | no character update in last 2 weeks |
| 12:13.54 | abbat_w | even if you make 'logout'? not alt+f4? |
| 12:14.06 | sb | err... yes :p |
| 12:14.18 | Punkie` | who does alt+f4? |
| 12:14.19 | cncfanatics | sigh, I know I repeat myself but, tweaking other people's addons sucks :) |
| 12:14.26 | abbat_w | Punkie`, i am ;) |
| 12:14.31 | sb | well okay |
| 12:14.35 | sb | its 1 week |
| 12:14.37 | Punkie` | oh you pvp or something |
| 12:14.44 | Punkie` | so hide your gear i guess? |
| 12:14.45 | abbat_w | sb, for me it's updated daily |
| 12:14.57 | sb | lucky you :o |
| 12:15.08 | abbat_w | Punkie, nope. Sometimes i won't wait "20 sec to logout" ;) |
| 12:15.16 | Punkie` | so do exit now? |
| 12:15.25 | abbat_w | all my gear can be looked at armory |
| 12:15.35 | Punkie` | esc -> exit game -> exit now |
| 12:15.41 | abbat_w | also i do alt+f4 if i need to reload client w/o leaving group |
| 12:15.49 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 12:15.59 | Punkie` | but alt+f4 can corrupt your savedvariables |
| 12:16.04 | abbat_w | yes |
| 12:16.07 | Punkie` | and it won't save your savedvariables too |
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| 12:16.34 | cncfanatics | alt+f4 shouldnt corrupt ur saved vars |
| 12:16.40 | Punkie` | it shouldnt |
| 12:16.41 | cncfanatics | if u dont do it after ur UI starting saving at least |
| 12:16.43 | Punkie` | but it can |
| 12:16.45 | abbat_w | some times ago my saved vars has been corrupted. now i make backup before i start play ;) |
| 12:17.13 | Punkie` | sb: my armory is updated daily too |
| 12:17.15 | Sole | cncfanatics: whats so amazing bout 2.3? |
| 12:17.37 | cncfanatics | Sole, sec |
| 12:18.01 | abbat_w | 2.3.... |
| 12:18.22 | abbat_w | Blizzard won't release 2.2, i hate resilience bug as frostmage ;( |
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| 12:18.43 | abbat_w | And no one know how many time Blizzard need to release this patch |
| 12:18.45 | sb | hm? |
| 12:18.54 | abbat_w | sb? |
| 12:19.03 | sb | well - 2.2 next week i guess? |
| 12:19.10 | cncfanatics | damn where did I find those funcs |
| 12:19.12 | abbat_w | i don't sure |
| 12:19.28 | cncfanatics | * NEW - item, link = GetMacroItem(macro) |
| 12:19.28 | cncfanatics | * NEW - spell, rank = GetMacroSpell(macro) |
| 12:19.30 | nevcairiel | blizzy is still working on the sound system |
| 12:19.40 | cncfanatics | Sole, those 2 funcs will be AMAZING |
| 12:19.41 | sb | mah... useless stuff :/ |
| 12:19.45 | abbat_w | but anyway, i hate to see frostbolt crits on 2200 because i have ice shards :( |
| 12:20.23 | Punkie` | abbat_w: it must be your l2p issues!!! |
| 12:20.35 | abbat_w | l2p? |
| 12:20.40 | sb | hmmm <3 Examiner (much better than superinspect :p) |
| 12:20.45 | Punkie` | learn to play :P |
| 12:20.48 | Sole | cncfanatics: what if there are multiple items/spells in the macro? |
| 12:20.52 | abbat_w | Do you know about bug, Punkie? |
| 12:21.02 | Punkie` | i am joking with you abbat_w |
| 12:21.34 | cncfanatics | Sole, it gives the one that will be used next |
| 12:21.36 | abbat_w | By default, crit is 150% of you normal hit. With ice shards mage can make frostbolt crit 200% of normal hit. But if target have resilience, resilience applied twice |
| 12:21.41 | cncfanatics | thats the whole sexy thing about it |
| 12:21.47 | JoshBorke | ouch, that sucks |
| 12:21.53 | abbat_w | One time for additional 50% from talents and another - from crit |
| 12:22.01 | Sole | cncfanatics: what would you use that for? |
| 12:22.19 | cncfanatics | Sole, actionbar addons ? |
| 12:22.28 | cncfanatics | those that don't use action ids that is, hint |
| 12:22.30 | abbat_w | so, if my frostbolt hit mob for 3k and in pvp i see crit about 2200 on unbuffed warrior, how many resilience he have? :) |
| 12:22.48 | Maldivia | abbat_w: what if you're deep arcane, for the +crit bonus, is it applied 3 times then ? |
| 12:22.56 | Sole | cncfanatics: hehe |
| 12:22.57 | cncfanatics | ouch, that'd hurt |
| 12:23.05 | cncfanatics | 3 times resi rofl |
| 12:23.11 | cncfanatics | ur crits wld do less dmg then noncrits ? |
| 12:23.13 | sb | hmm resilience on frostbolt? |
| 12:23.23 | sb | its only for dots isnt it? |
| 12:23.24 | abbat_w | Maldiva, maybe. But it's wrong calculation should be fixed in 2.2 |
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| 12:23.44 | Maldivia | abbat_w: I agree, was wondering if you had tried? |
| 12:23.47 | abbat_w | affect all crit damage which can be increased by talents |
| 12:24.04 | sb | oh |
| 12:24.10 | sb | nice :o |
| 12:24.13 | Maldivia | arne't mages the only class that has 2 talents to increse crit bonus? |
| 12:24.15 | cncfanatics | meh, cycircled shld RLY be coded better |
| 12:24.22 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r48739 10VisualHeal/ (VisualHeal.lua VisualHealBar.xml): |
| 12:24.22 | CIA-22 | VisualHeal 4: |
| 12:24.22 | CIA-22 | - Simplified version scheme (major version + revision of HealComm lib) |
| 12:24.22 | CIA-22 | - New feature: Sticky HealBar. If enabled (/vh stickyhealbar), the HealBar will stay on screen after the heal completes, continuing to show all target health and incoming heals. Can be dismissed by right-clicking it. |
| 12:24.36 | abbat_w | Maldivia, locks also have +100% damage on crit |
| 12:24.48 | abbat_w | Don't sure about other classes. Warriors have 20%? |
| 12:24.56 | kenlyric | wait, naturally? |
| 12:24.59 | cncfanatics | abbat_w, locks don't have a talent in deep arcane that can increase their crit dmg a second time |
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| 12:25.09 | cncfanatics | u can stack both |
| 12:25.09 | Maldivia | abbat_w: I know, but mages have ice shards and spell power |
| 12:25.11 | abbat_w | in deep arcane possible not |
| 12:25.23 | abbat_w | Maldivia, i never got both talents |
| 12:25.23 | kenlyric | isn't crit always 50% extra damage unless talented? |
| 12:25.57 | abbat_w | kenlyric, maybe i was wrong. but by default it's hit + 50% of hit for mage |
| 12:26.11 | Xinhuan | hi i'm a mage, what's up? ^^ |
| 12:26.14 | cncfanatics | +50% for casters, +100% for melee |
| 12:26.23 | Maldivia | spell crit is 50% bonus, melee is 100% bonus |
| 12:26.30 | kenlyric | what about hunters? |
| 12:26.40 | Punkie` | i would assume 100% |
| 12:26.47 | abbat_w | and melee classes doesn't have any talents to bost bonus over 100%? |
| 12:26.59 | Punkie` | abbat_w: yes we do |
| 12:27.02 | Xinhuan | o_O isn't +100% enough?? |
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| 12:27.28 | Punkie` | rogues have lethiality |
| 12:27.29 | abbat_w | Xinhuan, enough. But we speak about resilience bug which affect crit bonus from talents |
| 12:27.31 | kenlyric | most every class does. |
| 12:27.37 | Xinhuan | its fixed next patch |
| 12:27.41 | Xinhuan | so i'm not really caring |
| 12:27.52 | abbat_w | i'm caring ;) |
| 12:27.57 | abbat_w | every day at arenas ;) |
| 12:27.58 | cncfanatics | meh, I don't play wow anymore, so i'm not caring either :) |
| 12:27.59 | cncfanatics | coding ftw :p |
| 12:28.16 | Xinhuan | i can supply you with the formulas of how resilience is multiplied twice though |
| 12:28.24 | Xinhuan | for too much damage reduction |
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| 12:28.40 | abbat_w | I have real tests :) |
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| 12:28.56 | abbat_w | Do this by my mage and warrior from arena team |
| 12:29.07 | Xinhuan | yeah but i'm saying i have the formulas to back up the numbers ;p |
| 12:29.18 | abbat_w | He have 360 resilience, but damage reduction about 30%+ from my crit ;( |
| 12:30.13 | abbat_w | It's fun to crit on lock in nova. Normally lance if not crit do 300% by frozen target (about 1k dmg). If crit, *2 |
| 12:30.30 | abbat_w | I cast nova, cast lance and bah! Numer is just 900! |
| 12:30.41 | abbat_w | Less then non crit by frozen target ;) |
| 12:31.04 | nevcairiel | you should stack crit then! |
| 12:31.08 | abbat_w | soullink, resilience, bug etc |
| 12:31.27 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, i don't stack crit btw ;) |
| 12:31.37 | abbat_w | !c eu warsong immoralist |
| 12:31.39 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/7/54). 10103 HP; 8006 Mana; 125 mana regen; 123 spell crit; 41 spell hit; 853 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (907); 54 shadow dmg (907); 4.94% dodge; 425 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1137 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqwmvu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3agm7k ][ Updated: Wed Sep 12 08:44:11 2007 ]] |
| 12:31.44 | Xinhuan | i stack pokemons in raid |
| 12:31.55 | abbat_w | 123 - it's about 11% or 12% |
| 12:31.55 | Xinhuan | i should make a cycircled pokemon theme |
| 12:32.06 | Xinhuan | different ears for each circle |
| 12:32.08 | abbat_w | Xinhuan, lol. Artemis make hello kitty theme ;) |
| 12:32.18 | abbat_w | and hello kitty ui also |
| 12:32.20 | Xinhuan | yes the idea is from him |
| 12:32.38 | kenlyric | hello kitty theme was poorly executed. |
| 12:32.47 | kenlyric | needed more pink. |
| 12:32.50 | Xinhuan | only cos it was released a bit too early hehe |
| 12:33.23 | abbat_w | I see some of hello kitty dolls in russian shop |
| 12:33.28 | abbat_w | don't like it |
| 12:34.13 | Xinhuan | some of those are fake merchandise |
| 12:34.18 | Xinhuan | i bet |
| 12:34.22 | abbat_w | maybe |
| 12:34.28 | Punkie` | abbat_w: only 425 reslience? man that sucks |
| 12:34.35 | abbat_w | Punkie, 4/5 s2 |
| 12:34.44 | Punkie` | terrible |
| 12:34.52 | abbat_w | If i wear 3/5 s2 and 2/5 s1 i have 460 resilience |
| 12:34.59 | Punkie` | still pretty low |
| 12:35.03 | Xinhuan | do you think its safe to assume that s3 won't be out for another 2 months? |
| 12:35.06 | Xinhuan | 8 weeks that is |
| 12:35.08 | abbat_w | it's w/o pvp trinket with resilience and heal |
| 12:35.22 | nevcairiel | what i heard |
| 12:35.29 | nevcairiel | s3 will come with zul'aman |
| 12:35.30 | abbat_w | With this trinket i have 494 resilience |
| 12:35.36 | nevcairiel | which wont be in the next three motnh |
| 12:35.38 | abbat_w | It's a cap for today |
| 12:35.58 | Xinhuan | if i get 800 arena points a week for 8 weeks, that's 6400 points hmm enough to buy full set with 4k left over |
| 12:36.25 | abbat_w | And Punkie, maybe you don't know, but mages have molten armor, which decrease chance to be critically hitted by 5% ;) |
| 12:36.35 | abbat_w | With my resilience, i have -17% to crit |
| 12:37.04 | Punkie` | abbat_w: I'm just testing to see if you know I'm joking with you :D |
| 12:37.21 | abbat_w | Punkie ;)))) |
| 12:37.24 | abbat_w | Ahahha ;) |
| 12:37.55 | abbat_w | English is not my native tongue ;) And i missunderstand most of humor etc ;) |
| 12:38.05 | Punkie` | I know, you type so cute |
| 12:38.13 | nevcairiel | thats cute? |
| 12:38.50 | Punkie` | yep |
| 12:39.01 | Punkie` | the 'Ahahha ;)' was :D |
| 12:39.23 | abbat_w | hmm.. i just don't know how to say 'haha' in english ;) |
| 12:39.31 | nevcairiel | haha is fine :P |
| 12:39.42 | Punkie` | or olololooolllol |
| 12:41.13 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: haha = nev sucks ;-) |
| 12:41.25 | nevcairiel | any other word = josh sucks |
| 12:41.28 | abbat_w | eh, i can explain but my english to keep you guys from explaination ;) |
| 12:41.37 | nevcairiel | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 12:41.37 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in JoshBorke's direction, hitting JoshBorke and sending JoshBorke flying into the closet |
| 12:41.46 | abbat_w | No, not sucks |
| 12:41.54 | abbat_w | He make sexy barfader for pitbull |
| 12:42.04 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: pwned |
| 12:42.12 | nevcairiel | you have breasts in your closet? |
| 12:42.18 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: no, i have a harem in my closet |
| 12:42.23 | abbat_w | But fader have some bugs ;) And need to be fixed ;) |
| 12:42.35 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: sorry, ckknight took it over. i'm not supporting rock based mods |
| 12:42.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:42.56 | nevcairiel | ~hug JoshBorke |
| 12:42.57 | purl | ACTION jumps into JoshBorke's lap and huggles and *hugs* JoshBorke |
| 12:43.25 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: i want to see what shakes out of 2.2 as far as unit frame mods. i'm probably going to switch back to ag_uf and see if i can replicate barfader into it |
| 12:43.28 | abbat_w | terrible guys what you look not into community but into politics of... |
| 12:44.18 | cncfanatics | JoshBorke, why politics ? |
| 12:44.20 | cncfanatics | its silly :p |
| 12:44.25 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: it's a personal choice. |
| 12:44.40 | JoshBorke | at the time of writing BarFader it was very simple to do it |
| 12:44.44 | JoshBorke | now i would have to learn the new syntax |
| 12:44.48 | JoshBorke | and i just can't be assed |
| 12:45.25 | cncfanatics | you realize Ace2 and Rock are rather close to eachother syntax wise right ? |
| 12:45.34 | JoshBorke | yep |
| 12:45.45 | JoshBorke | but in all actuality i stopped supporting BarFader long ago |
| 12:45.57 | JoshBorke | about the time it was moved to be inside PitBull |
| 12:47.05 | abbat_w | so, fader code don't require any libs etc. if you make new for aguf, i stole it and try to put inside pitbull |
| 12:47.35 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: sure :-) |
| 12:48.18 | abbat_w | i won't to install aguf again. won't to mouse drag my frames over screen |
| 12:48.49 | abbat_w | then do logout, change wtf saved vars to remove something like BarX = { X = 456.32323232, Y = 32.32324343} etc ;) |
| 12:49.17 | abbat_w | it's a pain ;) |
| 12:49.32 | JoshBorke | as someone else said a while ago, i don't understand the concept of having healthbars be an optional feature in a unit frame |
| 12:49.50 | cncfanatics | why not ? |
| 12:49.51 | abbat_w | why not? |
| 12:49.53 | cncfanatics | supose as a tank |
| 12:50.01 | cncfanatics | I want to only see the mana of my healers on their unitframe |
| 12:50.03 | nevcairiel | even a tank needs that |
| 12:50.15 | abbat_w | disagree |
| 12:50.31 | cncfanatics | as a tank I dont want to know the hp of my healers |
| 12:50.34 | cncfanatics | just if they got mana |
| 12:50.37 | cncfanatics | (dead = no mana anyway) |
| 12:50.54 | nevcairiel | disable your frames and get XRS then :P |
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| 12:51.22 | cncfanatics | so, as answer to "not everyone needs hp on their unitframes" you give get XRS xD |
| 12:51.26 | cncfanatics | thats a nice logical answer woot :p |
| 12:51.31 | abbat_w | and if you look from object-oriented position, what difference between health bar and threat bar for example? |
| 12:51.39 | JoshBorke | it's just a personal opinion |
| 12:51.44 | abbat_w | ah |
| 12:51.59 | JoshBorke | that i'm sure others agree with and probably more disagree with |
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| 12:52.25 | JoshBorke | i might just switch to another unit frame altogether like sage |
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| 12:53.06 | Maldivia | why not just use the default blizzard ? |
| 12:53.20 | JoshBorke | Maldivia: the statusbars are too small |
| 12:53.40 | kenlyric | what if you're a mage and only want the frames to see debuffs? I think there are a number of applications where you might find an option useful. The real question would be, why would you limit the choices unnecessarily. |
| 12:54.03 | kenlyric | As said above, it's probably easier to give each part of the unit frame similar options than it is to make them different. |
| 12:54.04 | nevcairiel | options add bloat |
| 12:54.04 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:54.10 | JoshBorke | options do not add bloat |
| 12:54.17 | cncfanatics | depends what options tbh |
| 12:54.19 | abbat_w | not add |
| 12:54.20 | kenlyric | not if they all call the same function (hide me!) |
| 12:54.25 | JoshBorke | options add complexity which increases computational time |
| 12:54.30 | abbat_w | but i think it should be user choice, not a developer |
| 12:54.38 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: thats bloat in my world :P |
| 12:54.49 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: your world is wrong!@ |
| 12:54.49 | abbat_w | if i want frame w/o health bar why i should have it? |
| 12:54.54 | kenlyric | there are unit frames where you can't hide the power bar. that makes me sad. |
| 12:55.53 | nevcairiel | if i would write a unitframe, it would always contain a healthbar |
| 12:55.53 | cncfanatics | thats you |
| 12:55.53 | cncfanatics | I just dont see why u wld treat hp bars specialy |
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| 12:55.53 | cncfanatics | if u can hide power bar, why not hp bar ? if I feel like it |
| 12:55.56 | kenlyric | seems like a lot of work. |
| 12:55.59 | kenlyric | to make it stick around. |
| 12:56.10 | JoshBorke | it's actually more work to make things modular |
| 12:56.16 | JoshBorke | far more work |
| 12:56.20 | kenlyric | should remove that option from grid. |
| 12:56.34 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, but you make uniframe as container for bars (hp, mana, threat, etc) |
| 12:56.35 | nevcairiel | and modular has by-design more overhead |
| 12:56.40 | krka_ | i love adding options! my options are generally done by uncommenting / commenting code blocks though :P |
| 12:56.51 | kenlyric | but it's already modular for every single other part of the unitframe. |
| 12:56.52 | JoshBorke | krka_: you don't code so hush :-P |
| 12:57.02 | krka_ | :/ |
| 12:57.12 | JoshBorke | not until you finish AT-2.0 |
| 12:57.15 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: are we talking about anything specific? :) i was talking in theory |
| 12:57.20 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, from unitframe point, what diference between hp and mana bars? nothing |
| 12:57.30 | kenlyric | pitbull and grid is what I'm talking about. |
| 12:57.36 | kenlyric | they both allow you to remove the health display. |
| 12:57.40 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 12:57.46 | nevcairiel | and i dont use any of those |
| 12:57.48 | abbat_w | My grid don't show health |
| 12:58.00 | abbat_w | just show alive/died ppl and range check |
| 12:58.10 | abbat_w | and curse indicator sure ;) |
| 12:58.32 | krka_ | JoshBorke: 2.0 is ancient. the last public version was 3.6 |
| 12:58.35 | abbat_w | You ask why? |
| 12:58.47 | nevcairiel | whats AT? |
| 12:58.48 | kenlyric | because you're a mage. |
| 12:58.49 | JoshBorke | krka_: well whatever, the version you started working on like 3 months ago :-P |
| 12:58.49 | abbat_w | Because i have healt of party in other place |
| 12:58.56 | abbat_w | And don't need it in 2 places |
| 12:59.05 | JoshBorke | i'm kind of sad that i never tried grid |
| 12:59.06 | kenlyric | you really should just have it one place. |
| 12:59.20 | kenlyric | i got rid of party/raid frames entirely with grid. |
| 12:59.21 | nevcairiel | i tried grid |
| 12:59.24 | nevcairiel | i couldnt play with it |
| 12:59.41 | abbat_w | kenlyric, i think information should not be duplicated. I don't need to see HP in 2-3 different places. Only one place where i can look at HP |
| 12:59.43 | kenlyric | took me weeks to get used to it. |
| 12:59.53 | kenlyric | side-by-side with regular unitframes |
| 12:59.54 | nevcairiel | i cant afford weeks of sucky playing |
| 12:59.57 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:59.57 | abbat_w | and i prefer to define this place by self, not by developer |
| 12:59.58 | JoshBorke | i don't use pitbull for party or raid |
| 13:00.02 | kenlyric | abbat_w: put it all in one place. |
| 13:00.22 | abbat_w | Party frame for hp |
| 13:00.27 | abbat_w | Grid for decurse |
| 13:00.34 | kenlyric | 2 places is eyetravel. |
| 13:00.35 | abbat_w | Why i should use grid for hp monitoring? |
| 13:00.37 | cncfanatics | hmmm, why is my overlay not listening to SetTextCoord calls |
| 13:00.37 | kenlyric | eyetravel = time |
| 13:00.51 | abbat_w | kenlyric, this is about i speak |
| 13:01.12 | JoshBorke | i just don't look at health bars at all and pew pew |
| 13:01.41 | abbat_w | JoshBorke, in pvp for example for filled with information from bars, numbers, ventrilo etc |
| 13:02.13 | kenlyric | oh, the easy life of dps. |
| 13:02.18 | abbat_w | And if you need 'i need to look someone hp' you eyes start to looking over screen. It take some time. Someone can died while you searching info |
| 13:03.52 | JoshBorke | i don't pvp :-D |
| 13:04.01 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: yea, i'm tired of healing |
| 13:04.15 | charon | nevcairiel: which one _do_ you use? |
| 13:04.16 | abbat_w | For example if i see what my arena team member have less hp and rogue at back i can poly rogue and take team member some time to run out. If i have only one place where i can see this and this place defined by me - i do it faster |
| 13:04.30 | abbat_w | If not - team member can be killed before i cast sheep |
| 13:04.33 | charon | nevcairiel: und uebrigens, liebe gruesse an john/daven |
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| 13:04.48 | JoshBorke | what does uebrigens mean? |
| 13:04.51 | nevcairiel | charon: sRaidFrames |
| 13:04.55 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r48740 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Timestamps.lua: Prat: zhCN updated |
| 13:04.57 | charon | JoshBorke: by the way |
| 13:04.58 | nevcairiel | it means btw |
| 13:05.13 | abbat_w | Now all my mods allow me to make my own UI. W/o serious restrictions from authors |
| 13:05.19 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: i have my healthbars etc in only one place also because i don't duplicate information. PerfectRaid does what I need |
| 13:05.39 | kebinusan | I like grid |
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| 13:05.45 | JoshBorke | charon/nevcairiel: danke |
| 13:05.46 | kebinusan | though its setup is a bit confusing |
| 13:06.06 | abbat_w | JoshBorke, you use PerfectRaid. Now imagine what author change his mind and remake PF. Remove HP bars due to using grid ;) |
| 13:06.07 | kenlyric | grid is dangerous |
| 13:06.18 | kenlyric | once you get used to it, you're spoiled against anything else. |
| 13:06.24 | kebinusan | heh I agree |
| 13:06.31 | cncfanatics | someone, I need a lil help :) |
| 13:06.40 | abbat_w | kenlyric, agree too |
| 13:06.40 | kenlyric | if perfectraid dies, there's plenty of other alternatives. |
| 13:06.58 | kenlyric | gotta remember to send candy to the author of grid. |
| 13:07.07 | kenlyric | and maybe hookers |
| 13:07.08 | Wobin_ | That's Pasta |
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| 13:07.27 | Wobin_ | Maybe hookers full of candy |
| 13:07.31 | Wobin_ | that'll save on shipping |
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| 13:07.37 | kebinusan | My 2 complains wiht grid are that you cant set it to select a layout by zone and how annoying it is to get people to add raid important debuffs like who is tombed on morogrim for example |
| 13:07.37 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 13:07.53 | Wobin_ | I scared him off =P |
| 13:08.01 | abbat_w | I have complain to grid only with setup |
| 13:08.11 | abbat_w | Understanding grid it's not easy ;) |
| 13:08.31 | abbat_w | But it's great mod with perfect idea |
| 13:08.47 | kebinusan | heh, yeah the setup is a bit convoluted... you shouldnt have to define a buff/debuff in one spot then set its visibility in a different spot |
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| 13:08.57 | abbat_w | yes |
| 13:09.31 | abbat_w | Also i dislike this thing: someone have curse. My grid alert me with sound and i see indicator on square |
| 13:09.52 | abbat_w | I cast remove curse and curse was removed. Grid now not show curse indicator |
| 13:10.12 | abbat_w | But PitBull, for example, show it sometimes after i remove curse |
| 13:10.36 | cncfanatics | hmmm, what different draw layers are there ? |
| 13:11.36 | abbat_w | now i remove from my unit frames debuffs what i can remove. move all this functionality to grid |
| 13:11.59 | abbat_w | But if ckk change his mind and say 'i think unitframe should show curse' |
| 13:14.20 | kebinusan | My one bitch with pitbull auras is that you cant define them to be shown in x number of rows it always seems to be two rows of 20 debuffs |
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| 13:17.34 | abbat_w | kebinusan, i always make changes in Pitbull_Aura after each update ;) |
| 13:17.43 | abbat_w | to fix some things |
| 13:19.26 | cncfanatics | hmmm, someone, how would I make a square 40x40 green square appear round ? |
| 13:19.49 | abbat_w | btw about lua |
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| 13:20.42 | abbat_w | in c++ if i create objects from a class i have one place in memory for object methods and many memory places for object data |
| 13:21.06 | abbat_w | in lua if i create object i have copy of object methods for every object? |
| 13:21.15 | nevcairiel | no, only references |
| 13:21.22 | cncfanatics | references most probably in a metatable |
| 13:21.32 | abbat_w | ah |
| 13:21.47 | abbat_w | looks like i setup same metatable for many tables? |
| 13:21.49 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, perhaps u can help me a sec ? :) |
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| 13:22.10 | abbat_w | and another question ;) |
| 13:22.21 | cncfanatics | how would you make a 40x40 texture created with Dragger.Texture:SetTexture(0, 0.6, 0, 0.5); appear round instead of square ? |
| 13:22.33 | abbat_w | many mods have construction like this: local a = {}; local b[a] = {} |
| 13:22.42 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: you apply a texture on top of it that is round |
| 13:22.53 | abbat_w | table 'a' in this contex just for unique index in table 'b'? |
| 13:23.00 | Wobin_ | yes |
| 13:23.01 | abbat_w | or it's for something oher? |
| 13:23.01 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: you should read PiL and yes |
| 13:23.12 | abbat_w | Josh, i read PiL right now ;) |
| 13:23.22 | cncfanatics | JoshBorke, its set as overlay, can't put a lot on top of it actualy |
| 13:23.37 | nevcairiel | framelevels |
| 13:23.39 | abbat_w | if you interesting, chapter about metatables which allow you to track all access to table ;) |
| 13:23.39 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: you can put something over the overlay, just bump its frame level |
| 13:23.50 | cncfanatics | hmmmz |
| 13:23.53 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: yea, metatables are powerful things |
| 13:23.54 | cncfanatics | this is gonna be complicated then |
| 13:24.14 | cncfanatics | tweaking cycircled atm so it would round the overlay that shows up on unlocked frames |
| 13:24.17 | abbat_w | JoshBorke, yes, agree. But can't find how i put in metatable my own methods ;( |
| 13:24.20 | alcohol | is there a program that keeps your addons up to date similar to MacAceUpdater (which is broken since the author listing was added) ? (for OSX, obviously) |
| 13:24.35 | Wobin_ | there's always the python script =) |
| 13:24.43 | abbat_w | updater in java? |
| 13:24.51 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: you don't put metatables in methods, you apply them to tables |
| 13:25.25 | abbat_w | JoshBorke, but metatable can have only predifined methods. Like __index, __newindex |
| 13:25.41 | cncfanatics | __index = {name = function()} |
| 13:25.45 | abbat_w | yes |
| 13:25.58 | abbat_w | But what about b = a.new() |
| 13:26.03 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: the list is a little larger than that but that is correct that there are only some fields |
| 13:26.14 | abbat_w | ah, yes, new can be emulated with __newindex ;) |
| 13:26.22 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: that would be as simple as "function a.new() return bob end" |
| 13:26.25 | alcohol | Wobin_: wowacepy ? |
| 13:26.37 | cncfanatics | alcohol: WUU |
| 13:26.47 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: a.new() ~= a[new] |
| 13:27.30 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: __newindex is called when you do something like "local a = {}; a[new] = true" <-- newindex receives the table reference, the field, and the value |
| 13:28.11 | alcohol | cncfanatics: can I use the latest source to update the available .dmg they have for download ? |
| 13:28.23 | Wobin_ | alcohol: aye |
| 13:29.13 | abbat_w | But if i make "function a.new() return end" this 'new' is a field of table 'a' |
| 13:29.50 | abbat_w | if i make b, same as a, b has own copy of field 'new'? |
| 13:30.14 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48741 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 13:30.14 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - ACE-25, ACE-26, ACE-34 |
| 13:30.14 | CIA-22 | - Implemented a basic callback system for database messages |
| 13:30.14 | CIA-22 | - :CopyProfile() will now reset the profile, followed by the copy |
| 13:30.14 | CIA-22 | - Removed the 'force' argument from :CopyProfile(), no longer needed |
| 13:30.14 | abbat_w | or both a and b have reference to something where 'new' holds? |
| 13:30.23 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: if you do something like b = a then all b is is a reference to a |
| 13:30.31 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: the second statement is correct |
| 13:30.36 | alcohol | Wobin_: hrm. how ? there's no specific instruction and I can't find any similar named files when I browse the contents of wuu.app |
| 13:30.53 | Wobin_ | eh? |
| 13:31.00 | Wobin_ | wowacepy is it's own script |
| 13:31.01 | abbat_w | kk, i make example at .lua and try to show you. i'm confused with inheritance in lua |
| 13:31.06 | Wobin_ | it has nothing to do with WUU |
| 13:31.14 | alcohol | no |
| 13:31.24 | alcohol | I was talking about the source for 1.5 on the site of wuu |
| 13:31.27 | cncfanatics | eh, wtf ? |
| 13:31.30 | JoshBorke | abbat_w: use pastey ;-) |
| 13:31.33 | alcohol | cause the .dmg they offer for download is 1.4 |
| 13:31.36 | cncfanatics | I can't commit to cycircled ? whats that shit ? its author stopped it since fucking ages |
| 13:31.38 | Wobin_ | alcohol: I have no idea about WUU at all |
| 13:31.46 | alcohol | oh sorry |
| 13:31.51 | Wobin_ | cncfanatics was the one that suggested it =P |
| 13:31.51 | abbat_w | JoshBorke, yeah :) ppl here point me to ace.pastey.net ;) |
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| 13:31.55 | alcohol | cncfanatics: I meant to be asking you |
| 13:32.09 | cncfanatics | Wobin_ ? eh ? |
| 13:32.14 | cncfanatics | alcohol, i'm on linux, I ahve no idea |
| 13:32.18 | alcohol | cncfanatics: darn |
| 13:33.17 | cncfanatics | Wobin_ ? :p |
| 13:33.53 | Wobin_ | wot? |
| 13:34.14 | cncfanatics | " cncfanatics was the one that suggested it =P" clarify ? |
| 13:34.22 | cncfanatics | oh, nvm, got it lol |
| 13:34.27 | Wobin_ | <cncfanatics> alcohol: WUU |
| 13:34.45 | cncfanatics | Wobin_, either way, other Q, why is cycircled locked on svn ? |
| 13:34.59 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: probably so people don't fubar it ;-) |
| 13:35.27 | cncfanatics | well, the original maintainer is long gone |
| 13:35.36 | cncfanatics | people just commit their own addons in there :p |
| 13:35.53 | cncfanatics | let me do one more check, might get a commit in anyway |
| 13:36.17 | JoshBorke | you could also create a branch |
| 13:36.20 | |Kev| | alcohol: mau is currently broken? |
| 13:37.25 | cncfanatics | better |
| 13:37.39 | alcohol | |Kev|: yea |
| 13:37.47 | alcohol | |Kev|: I get author names as the latest version |
| 13:37.53 | |Kev| | nice |
| 13:38.11 | |Kev| | poke me later and I'll fix it for you |
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| 13:39.02 | |Kev| | I don't play wow anymore, so I don't find these things out |
| 13:39.07 | alcohol | ah |
| 13:39.20 | alcohol | a pity, mau was quite easy to use ^^ |
| 13:39.31 | |Kev| | as I say, I'll fix it:) |
| 13:39.39 | cncfanatics | this should do it :) |
| 13:39.57 | |Kev| | I'd really like it if someone would come forward to work on it |
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| 13:40.41 | alcohol | heh, I would, if I knew where to begin even. it's been a loooong time since I last coded anything. |
| 13:40.43 | |Kev| | but I've only had three contributions, 1) the original artwork, 2) a patch to make the parsing more robust which brkoe it , and 3) a set of improvements which seem to just be replacing the icons wit other ones |
| 13:41.04 | r0y`` | hey, is this a ace2 dev chat only, or can I ask questions about grid? |
| 13:41.28 | Xinhuan | r0y``: we talk about hello kitty in here all the time :) |
| 13:41.48 | cncfanatics | sad but true rofl |
| 13:42.08 | r0y`` | hello kitty is cute :> but back to my question. |
| 13:42.18 | cncfanatics | hmmm, did cia get pawned out of this chan ? |
| 13:42.22 | cncfanatics | didnt see any commit messages today |
| 13:42.44 | alcohol | cia-22 is still here.. |
| 13:42.52 | Xinhuan | there was a commit like 20 minutes ago |
| 13:42.53 | alcohol | he spoke not long ago |
| 13:42.59 | alcohol | 15:30.14 <CIA-22>: cladhaire Alpha * r48741 Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 13:42.59 | alcohol | 15:30.14 <CIA-22>: Ace3 - ACE-25, ACE-26, ACE-3\ |
| 13:43.15 | cncfanatics | he didnt speak for my last commit 3 mins ago though |
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| 13:44.29 | mitch0 | cnc: he didn't deem it worthwhile |
| 13:45.31 | cncfanatics | mitch0, thats only cuz ur in the chan :) |
| 13:46.24 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r48742 10cyCircled/ (core.lua cyCircled.toc plugins/FlexBar2.lua): cyCircled: Added FlexBar2 support , woootage |
| 13:46.24 | CIA-22 | 03deccard * r48743 10MiniChat/FAQ.txt: |
| 13:46.24 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 13:46.24 | CIA-22 | - added Prat compatibility question to FAQ |
| 13:46.30 | cncfanatics | lol, its just late I guess |
| 13:46.45 | mitch0 | cnc: that supposedly witty response fails to make any sense |
| 13:47.48 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48744 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua tests/serialize.lua): |
| 13:47.48 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0 |
| 13:47.48 | CIA-22 | - Added functions to the serializer, as nil values with comments |
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| 13:59.59 | Pkekyo|zZz | ~seen art3mis |
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| 14:03.27 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48745 10Ace3/ (AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua tests/AceDB-3.0.lua): |
| 14:03.27 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - ACE-35 |
| 14:03.27 | CIA-22 | - Coded a quick fix for ACE-35. There is still some inconsistency, and the callback path will need to be mapped out. |
| 14:03.27 | CIA-22 | - Added tests for the fix |
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| 14:07.23 | abbat_w | hmm... what difference |
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| 14:07.41 | abbat_w | i make function Class:func() return end |
| 14:08.02 | abbat_w | if i call obj.func() i got error about 'local self not defined' |
| 14:08.09 | abbat_w | if i call obj:func() all fine |
| 14:08.18 | abbat_w | are '.' and ':' not the same? |
| 14:08.35 | Industrial | no |
| 14:08.55 | abbat_w | what i do if i try obj.func() ? |
| 14:09.09 | Industrial | : is the same as |
| 14:09.17 | Industrial | Class.func(Class)\ |
| 14:09.23 | Industrial | Class:func() |
| 14:09.23 | cncfanatics | obj:func() is the same as obj.func(obj) |
| 14:09.32 | Pkekyo|zZz | anyone know approx. how much a DVD movie cost in the UK and/or US? |
| 14:09.38 | Industrial | passes the object as first parameter, so you don't have to specify it as with eg python |
| 14:09.44 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, 0.0000000000000000000000000000$ ? |
| 14:09.45 | abbat_w | huh |
| 14:09.48 | charon | Industrial: you don't either, in python :) |
| 14:09.56 | Pkekyo|zZz | cncfanatics: the retail version ;) |
| 14:09.58 | Industrial | oh >_> thought you had to |
| 14:10.31 | charon | Industrial: only if you go via the class, which is a common inheritance pattern, or at least was, up until the introduction of new-style classes and super() |
| 14:10.39 | abbat_w | http://ace.pastey.net/73755 |
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| 14:10.53 | abbat_w | a.setName(name) won't work but a:setName(name) work |
| 14:10.58 | Industrial | charon: ah well its been a while I see :) python 2.2/2.3 :P did a little IRC bot some time |
| 14:11.04 | abbat_w | if first case lua can't find self |
| 14:11.11 | sb | mhhm |
| 14:11.14 | charon | Industrial: so if C is a class and x=C(), you could say C.foo(x) or x.foo() |
| 14:11.18 | sb | clad: whats ACE-xx? |
| 14:11.21 | Industrial | abbat_w: a.setName(a, name) == a:setName(name) |
| 14:11.23 | Pkekyo|zZz | cncfanatics: don't know retail price? :p |
| 14:11.32 | cladhaire | sb: they are Jira issue numbers. |
| 14:11.45 | sb | ahh :) |
| 14:11.47 | Industrial | charon: hmm, okay |
| 14:11.51 | abbat_w | Industrial :-* |
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| 14:12.14 | abbat_w | in first case i have a.setName(self, name)? |
| 14:12.24 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, why would u want retail price if u can dl HD quality WITHOUT DRM shit on it for free ? |
| 14:12.30 | Industrial | depends on the context, self might not be a |
| 14:12.40 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: because I'm a collector |
| 14:13.06 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: It's like £12 or something |
| 14:13.24 | Industrial | abbat_w: http://ace.pastey.net/73756 |
| 14:13.29 | Pkekyo | holy shit |
| 14:13.31 | Industrial | abbat_w: you can just call it with : |
| 14:13.45 | Pkekyo | I just bought 10 movies at less than £1 a piece O.o |
| 14:13.50 | abbat_w | yes, with ':' all works |
| 14:13.53 | Industrial | abbat_w: about the only time that goes wrong is when you are passing the function as an argument |
| 14:14.04 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: I mean release movies |
| 14:14.15 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: a bit older movies? |
| 14:14.19 | abbat_w | Yes, i need to pass function as argument to make callback functionality |
| 14:14.22 | Punkie` | depends |
| 14:14.28 | Punkie` | you could buy some for dirt cheap |
| 14:14.32 | Pkekyo | release movies tend to be at approx £7-8 here |
| 14:14.40 | kenlyric | Punkie`: from which asian country? |
| 14:14.42 | Punkie` | tbh I never buy dvds |
| 14:14.50 | Industrial | eg function foo(func) func(somearg, someotherarg) end foo(a.setName) |
| 14:14.57 | Punkie` | kenlyric: I mean really old movies would be dirt cheap |
| 14:15.05 | Industrial | somearg won't be a, and it'l break |
| 14:15.43 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: http://www.asda-entertainment.co.uk/asda/asda/dvd/chart.list |
| 14:16.03 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: they're not all that old....second half of the nineties on some of them |
| 14:16.34 | Pkekyo | methinks the webshop I found wtfbbqpwns :) |
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| 14:16.39 | Punkie` | thats the dvd chart |
| 14:16.46 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 14:16.48 | Punkie` | as in what's being bought right now |
| 14:16.51 | abbat_w | so, not a hard |
| 14:16.56 | abbat_w | thanks Industrial ;) |
| 14:17.22 | Industrial | abbat_w: no prob |
| 14:17.39 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: thankies for the input...seems I got myself a sweet deal afterall :) |
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| 14:19.30 | Punkie` | what website did you order from? |
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| 14:27.10 | Industrial | I have a question about pitbull |
| 14:27.12 | charon | argh, Python is evil, it makes you question design choices at every corner of every (other) language |
| 14:27.14 | Industrial | where can I find info on dogtag? |
| 14:27.18 | charon | all the... voices... must stop... |
| 14:27.29 | Industrial | I want to display the current mana but only if it is not equal to the max mana |
| 14:27.34 | charon | Industrial: http://wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0 |
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| 14:28.16 | charon | Industrial: also, you can brackethesize (heh) freely within complex tag, and might want to do so |
| 14:28.44 | charon | the compiler will then strip out unnecessary brackets |
| 14:28.49 | charon | at least it does in cowtip |
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| 14:33.46 | CIA-22 | 03starinnia * r48746 10SimpleMD/ (Locale-esES.lua SimpleMD.lua): |
| 14:33.46 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 14:33.47 | CIA-22 | - esES fix |
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| 14:38.19 | Industrial | charon: hmm |
| 14:38.24 | Industrial | charon: [CurHP:IsMaxHP] is not it |
| 14:38.33 | Industrial | I want it only when its not equal to the maxhp |
| 14:38.38 | Hjalte | Does Minichat have to maximize both chat windows when something happens in one of them that makes it maximize? |
| 14:38.56 | cncfanatics | CurHP:!IsMaxHP ? |
| 14:39.13 | Industrial | no |
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| 14:42.48 | Skyboat | try [~IsMaxMP:CurMP] |
| 14:43.13 | charon | Industrial: [IsMaxMP:CurMP] or [~IsMaxMP?CurMP]. should be the same |
| 14:43.18 | charon | i'm not logged in so i can't check |
| 14:43.55 | charon | note that [a?b!c] reads as "if a, then b, else c" |
| 14:44.01 | Industrial | yea |
| 14:44.04 | charon | no, forget the : version, it will put True if you're at MaxHP |
| 14:44.17 | charon | *MP |
| 14:44.22 | Industrial | the one with ~ works |
| 14:44.27 | Industrial | er |
| 14:44.28 | charon | [a:b] reads "a, or if that is empty, b" |
| 14:44.41 | Industrial | no it doesn't :P |
| 14:44.43 | Industrial | what's the ~? |
| 14:44.48 | charon | hmm. |
| 14:44.48 | charon | Not |
| 14:44.49 | nevcairiel | ~ is not |
| 14:45.12 | Skyboat | just tested [~IsMaxMP?CurMP], seems to work fine |
| 14:45.16 | Industrial | yes that works |
| 14:45.19 | Industrial | thanks! |
| 14:45.25 | Skyboat | I really don't like the logic operators DogTag uses :p |
| 14:45.48 | charon | i haven't figured out associativity yet |
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| 14:47.20 | Skyboat | such as? |
| 14:47.59 | cncfanatic1 | ~love power failures |
| 14:47.59 | purl | If you love power failures so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
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| 14:49.30 | charon | Skyboat: which way it will "parenthesize" more complex stuff, like say [a:b?c!e:f:g] |
| 14:49.47 | Skyboat | mmm |
| 14:50.24 | cncfanatic1 | charon, in whatever way lua prioritizes them I guess |
| 14:50.45 | charon | don't bother looking it up in the source or whatever, i was just adding to your dislike of the logic :) |
| 14:51.22 | Skyboat | I try not to make anything too complex with DogTag unless I have an urgent need to :) |
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| 14:51.42 | Skyboat | I just like the flexibility |
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| 14:53.47 | Nickenyfiken_ | Anyone here use MobMap? |
| 14:54.01 | charon | yeah it's nice... e.g. i have a line in my cowtip that shows the mouseover target's name, in class color, except if it's the same as my target, then it's green... useful to spy on people ;) |
| 14:54.13 | charon | Skyboat: * |
| 14:54.14 | cncfanatics | spies ! |
| 14:54.16 | cncfanatics | remove them ! |
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| 14:59.13 | FrostByghte | ok so is Rock going to take over from Ace2 or work side by side with Ace2? |
| 14:59.42 | Josh_Borke | FrostByghte: side by side. it is another addon framework |
| 14:59.55 | durcyn | FrostByghte: rock is one person's successor to ace2, but it isn't the only candidate |
| 15:00.13 | durcyn | FrostByghte: expect much (more) drama about which one is 'official' soon |
| 15:00.15 | FrostByghte | I was reading this Rock+Ace3 thread...it always worries me when things start to split up like this |
| 15:00.35 | FrostByghte | ya...been there, I'm still recovering from Mambo/Joomla :) |
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| 15:01.43 | FrostByghte | now if some addons use Ace2 and some Rock doesn't this defeat the purpose of Ace2 being a shared system a bit? |
| 15:02.30 | Josh_Borke | no |
| 15:02.30 | durcyn | not as much once libstub is in use everywhere |
| 15:02.52 | durcyn | as it is now there are duplicate libs between ace2 and rock |
| 15:03.03 | kebinusan | It twas done before somewhat when clad created dongle, it will sort out |
| 15:03.11 | Stan__ | durcyn: not for long |
| 15:03.21 | FrostByghte | okie...keep in mind I'm just a end user and I don't understand the development details. I just blink when I see splits like this start and usually think 'wtf' to myself :) |
| 15:03.41 | durcyn | end users shouldn't care about what libraries their addons use, just that their addons work and don't leak memory like a sieve |
| 15:03.46 | Josh_Borke | FrostByghte: as long as the frameworks are well written you shouldn't see any difference between running 1, 2, or 20 frameworks |
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| 15:03.47 | FrostByghte | I really like what wowace has going on here, and don't want to see anything rip the community apart |
| 15:03.48 | durcyn | the rest is just politics |
| 15:04.25 | FrostByghte | true, the politics part is what worries me...politics can destroy |
| 15:04.42 | kebinusan | eh nothing that didnt happen when ace2 started |
| 15:04.48 | kebinusan | carry on |
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| 15:04.55 | FrostByghte | that's good, I wasn't here then |
| 15:05.16 | charon | durcyn: are you sure? i'm mostly worried about what will come of the current, nice integration between ace addons... will they still all fit onto my fubar? :) |
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| 15:05.37 | durcyn | charon: why wouldn't they? libfubarplugin is the least of your worries imo |
| 15:06.35 | FrostByghte | there are some interesting discussions going on the forums on this |
| 15:06.48 | kebinusan | as long as you dont end up with 7 different versions of parserlib you should be fine |
| 15:07.41 | Stan__ | lol |
| 15:07.49 | Stan__ | I guess 4.0 will replace the older ones |
| 15:08.08 | cladhaire | I guess 2.3 will replace all of them :P |
| 15:08.24 | charon | durcyn: i'm not that deep into the code yet, i was just thinking that if libfubarplugin pulls dependencies, developers wouldn't use it |
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| 15:08.56 | charon | (no idea if it does or if you still would or whatever) |
| 15:08.57 | Stan__ | cladhaire: yeah but 2.3 is months away :( |
| 15:09.06 | sb | mhh whats with 2.3 and parser? |
| 15:09.18 | sb | wow parser api? |
| 15:09.48 | Punkie` | uid's |
| 15:10.00 | sb | oh |
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| 15:13.16 | FrostByghte | "Let us devs do the addon building thanks, you can stick to UI building and trying to get a shred of popularity from our addons." lol |
| 15:13.44 | cladhaire | Punkie`: not quite.. the entire system is being re-done to use events instead of messages |
| 15:13.54 | cladhaire | responding to events is basically free.. text parsing is the issue we have currently |
| 15:17.00 | Industrial | Can I get the buff/debuff borders in PutBull_Aura without a green/red border? |
| 15:17.34 | Adirelle|Work | cladhaire: not sure I get you right, are you talking about all that combat log parsing stuff ? |
| 15:17.40 | Industrial | FrostByghte: yeah like its all about popularity. |
| 15:17.41 | Adirelle|Work | s/get/got/ |
| 15:18.21 | FrostByghte | Industrial: ya I was just reading some of your comments in the thread |
| 15:18.48 | FrostByghte | I'm around 100MiB to 130MiB with all the junk I have loaded and I don't notice any issues at all |
| 15:19.44 | Killmore | omg 200MiB |
| 15:19.49 | Killmore | 100 |
| 15:20.02 | FrostByghte | I sure like ck's addons...so I guess I'll be grabbing Rock soon |
| 15:20.18 | FrostByghte | Killmore: your at 200? |
| 15:20.24 | Killmore | im starting at 25 MiB |
| 15:20.26 | Killmore | no |
| 15:20.40 | Industrial | im at 10-13 |
| 15:20.41 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:21.15 | FrostByghte | is MiB usage even indicative of speed/performance? wouldn't that really depend heavily on what PC you have available? |
| 15:21.22 | sylvanaar | I dont even look |
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| 15:21.30 | Industrial | no its not, its my personal fetish to make it as small as possible |
| 15:21.39 | FrostByghte | if you have 2gigs why would that even be a factor...and I would assume most pc's have 2gigs or more these days |
| 15:21.41 | Killmore | im starting at 25 but after 1 hour of raid im at 60.. using Recount :| |
| 15:21.41 | Josh_Borke | FrostByghte: no, MiB is not indicative |
| 15:22.14 | Killmore | If I clean recount data I go back to 30 |
| 15:22.33 | FrostByghte | ya, recount is the BIG hog for me :) |
| 15:22.33 | FrostByghte | I usually leave it off |
| 15:22.41 | FrostByghte | I can tell when that is on for too long |
| 15:23.01 | Industrial | also, bam is quite anoying. He keeps commenting on everything and its mother but never tells how it _should_ be done (if he had his way) |
| 15:23.15 | sb | recount doesnt cause any performance problems for me |
| 15:23.22 | Industrial | for example; http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8258.msg137173#msg137173 |
| 15:23.30 | sb | yes, its 30-40mb, so? no fps issues here... |
| 15:23.51 | charon | i have regular 2-3sec slowdowns since i've installed recount :( |
| 15:23.53 | FrostByghte | I noticed some draw lag or something, but that was several revisions back |
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| 15:24.25 | charon | i should play with a profiler or some such, been too lazy |
| 15:24.44 | sylvanaar | that will make it even slower |
| 15:24.49 | Industrial | "On the other hand, it is hard to ignore the immense success of Ace2 - no matter how jealous a couple of the Ace3 developers obviously are that ckknight was able to achieve it and they were not." |
| 15:24.50 | Industrial | pffff |
| 15:24.59 | Josh_Borke | shutup industrial :-P |
| 15:25.16 | Industrial | eh, no? |
| 15:25.22 | dylanm | Josh_Borke: Naw this is entertaining. |
| 15:25.41 | Punkie` | Industrial: Can you Ace that quote for me? |
| 15:25.55 | Industrial | ill ace your mom |
| 15:25.58 | Industrial | >_> |
| 15:26.00 | Killmore | haha |
| 15:26.09 | sylvanaar | too easy |
| 15:26.40 | dylanm | 'Taken quite literally the above says that "if you use an Ace3-based compilation, then the overhead of the libraries will be large".' |
| 15:26.43 | dylanm | Mega lols |
| 15:27.02 | charon | sylvanaar: i suppose so, and i certainly wouldn't to that during raids, but it does get annoying to have these 2-3sec periods where my fps drop to one-digit numbers |
| 15:27.16 | charon | s/wouldn't to/wouldn't do/ |
| 15:27.42 | cncfanatics | sigh, stupid dc's |
| 15:28.20 | charon | (i play on a not-so-fast laptop and get 20-40fps usually so any slowdown means unplayable) |
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| 15:32.01 | cncfanatics | my max fps is 20 lol |
| 15:32.06 | cncfanatics | but I don't play anymore, so meh |
| 15:32.47 | FrostByghte | "I loved it and I want it back, wowace was a developer community." you want an elistist developer community back? :) or am I reading that wrong. |
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| 15:33.11 | FrostByghte | fun thread, maknig the morning wooosh by at least :) |
| 15:35.07 | Industrial | FrostByghte: yes, basically :P |
| 15:35.30 | Fisker- | hiiii |
| 15:35.31 | Industrial | well not elitist - just people that dare say other people's work sucks |
| 15:35.36 | Industrial | hiiii fiskerrrrr |
| 15:35.39 | Fisker- | :) |
| 15:35.40 | FrostByghte | well it actually is a developer framework...end users popping in and adding their opinion is a bit unproductive I would wager :) |
| 15:35.51 | Josh_Borke | Industrial: nothing stops you from doing that now |
| 15:35.55 | FrostByghte | specially if they don't know shit about coding, like me :) |
| 15:35.55 | Industrial | and also people that can take that criticism :P |
| 15:36.24 | Industrial | FrostByghte: your name has 2 extra letters. |
| 15:36.29 | Industrial | ;D |
| 15:36.41 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 15:36.46 | cncfanatics | its time to checkout ace3 & rock me thinks |
| 15:36.49 | Punkie` | end users seem to be getting hot under the collar about Ace3 and Rock, where in fact it shouldn't matter to them |
| 15:37.17 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: there's not much to check out about Ace3 |
| 15:37.18 | Punkie` | If they want an addon, they download it, if it's good, they use it, if it doesn't they'll remove it |
| 15:37.47 | cncfanatics | Josh_Borke, something > nil |
| 15:37.50 | Industrial | cncfanatics: there's some stuff to read about the implementation on jira.wowace.com |
| 15:38.02 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: i recommend reading jira |
| 15:38.04 | Industrial | what will/will not be in + why etc |
| 15:38.05 | cncfanatics | will do |
| 15:38.09 | cncfanatics | lil question |
| 15:38.15 | cncfanatics | why can't everyone add new addons to jira ? |
| 15:38.18 | Punkie` | btw Industrial did you repair your boots? :D |
| 15:38.21 | Josh_Borke | because it's not configured that way |
| 15:38.31 | Industrial | Punkie`: no :D |
| 15:39.02 | cncfanatics | Josh_Borke, so jira is there pretty much only for Ace3 ? cewl , usefull |
| 15:39.13 | cryogen | so, what addons do people use to help them code addons? |
| 15:39.31 | FrostByghte | so this really boils down to ckk on one side and the entire dev team on the other? |
| 15:39.33 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: no |
| 15:39.38 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: there are other addons on jira |
| 15:39.40 | cncfanatics | FrostByghte, no |
| 15:39.59 | cncfanatics | Josh_Borke, yea, but only ckk, bryan and tekkub can add stuf |
| 15:40.02 | FrostByghte | I'm on page 6 now :) |
| 15:40.04 | cncfanatics | so the rest is pretty much "GO AWAY" |
| 15:40.05 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: i'm sure if you ask they'll add stuff |
| 15:40.37 | Fisker- | Punkie` ! |
| 15:40.52 | Punkie` | y helo thar |
| 15:41.01 | Punkie` | feeling better today Fisker-? |
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| 15:46.30 | cladhaire | I wish Bam were in IRC |
| 15:46.46 | cladhaire | So I could be extremely blunt and clear with him. |
| 15:47.05 | Srosh | Nomen est omen. "bam" :P |
| 15:47.26 | Punkie` | cladhaire: You should not waste your time on it, nor be concerned with his opinions |
| 15:47.32 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8258.new#new |
| 15:47.33 | FrostByghte | keep in mind everyone is getting all worked up over a framework for the UI of a MMO game....bit of perspective here :) |
| 15:47.33 | Industrial | pow! |
| 15:48.06 | Industrial | FrostByghte: yeah but, well read my post. it's a hobby :P |
| 15:48.16 | cladhaire | FrostByghte: Yes, and regardless of that, its come to the point of personal insults and accusations. As a moderator on the boards, I won't stand for that, and I've dealt with issues as they've been reported. |
| 15:48.40 | cncfanatics | heh, oh the drudgery |
| 15:49.05 | FrostByghte | I know...it's just interesting human behavior isn't it...have you ever notice that almost every thread on the net seems to get some hostile or deragatory (sp) comment to it by the 3rd to 4th post? :) |
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| 15:49.24 | Josh_Borke | it's because of the anonymity provided by the net |
| 15:49.37 | Industrial | FrostByghte: that's because people can't get physical on the internet. |
| 15:49.41 | Industrial | right |
| 15:49.41 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:49.42 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:49.45 | Josh_Borke | let's get physical |
| 15:49.46 | Josh_Borke | physical |
| 15:49.51 | Josh_Borke | i want to get physicaaaaaaaaal |
| 15:49.54 | Josh_Borke | let's get physical |
| 15:49.56 | FrostByghte | ya...I guess so, I'm not too anon on the net myself...a fast search of FrostByghte and my life unravels |
| 15:50.01 | Industrial | that's what she said |
| 15:50.06 | Industrial | ~romshit |
| 15:50.06 | Josh_Borke | ;-) |
| 15:50.08 | Industrial | asdf;klj |
| 15:50.11 | Industrial | ~rimshot |
| 15:50.12 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 15:50.12 | Josh_Borke | ~fail Industrial |
| 15:50.12 | purl | Industrial: Fail. |
| 15:50.15 | Industrial | rofl |
| 15:50.34 | Industrial | man, I love the internets. |
| 15:50.34 | kenlyric | FrostByghte: It is the law of diminished perspective. the ui framework is the God in this perspective, so it's essentially relgious warfare. like jews vs muslims. |
| 15:50.43 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 15:50.48 | FrostByghte | kenlyric, indeed :) |
| 15:51.09 | Fisker- | yarr Punkie` |
| 15:51.15 | kenlyric | you can't externalize the perspective to anything else, or it becomes meaningless. |
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| 15:53.35 | Industrial | wowace.com - your daily cup of laughter |
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| 15:54.07 | Punkie` | Industrial: Do you say dot or punt ? :D |
| 15:54.09 | FrostByghte | so how many people involved in this thread actually do any work on the seperate frameworks? |
| 15:54.18 | Josh_Borke | i've worked with all 4 |
| 15:54.21 | Josh_Borke | well, with 4 |
| 15:54.31 | Josh_Borke | Ace2, D ongle, Ace3, Rock. i've contributed SOMETHING to each one |
| 15:54.34 | durcyn | just 323 |
| 15:54.38 | nevcairiel | "on", like 5 tops |
| 15:54.52 | durcyn | hrm, where'd that come from, stupid keyboard |
| 15:55.05 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48750 10Enhancer/ (12 files in 4 dirs): |
| 15:55.05 | CIA-22 | Enhancer: |
| 15:55.05 | CIA-22 | - Some minor fixes, moved some functions that was used by many modules into the core etc |
| 15:55.05 | CIA-22 | - Added Healing Way CandyBars due to a request, since I'm not specced for Healing Way myself I'm not sure how they'll turn out if you find anything odd please email as usual |
| 15:55.11 | Industrial | 0 |
| 15:55.13 | Industrial | :p |
| 15:55.38 | FrostByghte | well the key thing here is to make sure the community doesn't break in two for any reason....otherwise it appears to be a non-issue from an end user standpoint |
| 15:55.59 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I talk a lot, but dont actualy contribute a lot to anything -.- |
| 15:56.12 | Industrial | Punkie`: dot! |
| 15:56.40 | [dRaCo] | dotdotfeardotdotdeathcoil! |
| 15:56.42 | Industrial | urmom dot me |
| 15:56.43 | FrostByghte | I'm just hear to yell about addons that break and try to get someone to pay attention to me when they do :) |
| 15:56.46 | Industrial | ~rimshot |
| 15:56.47 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 15:57.05 | FrostByghte | I was already on freenode so figured wtf |
| 15:57.11 | cncfanatics | hmmm, some suggestion to AceEvent for anyone, allow an addon to register an event more then once ? |
| 15:57.17 | cncfanatics | what wld ppl think ? |
| 15:57.28 | nevcairiel | use your own dispatcher |
| 15:57.31 | Industrial | ^ |
| 15:57.46 | cncfanatics | I do atm :) |
| 15:57.55 | nevcairiel | or even better |
| 15:57.57 | Xinhuan | and i'll bet its more efficient |
| 15:58.01 | Xinhuan | than aceevent |
| 15:58.02 | nevcairiel | just register the events on the button frames! |
| 15:58.08 | Industrial | I like to have events separate from addons, and have the addon need the event lib for just registering the initialize/enable/disable |
| 15:58.21 | Xinhuan | Industrial: i find that needlessly wasteful |
| 15:58.29 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, I built my own event stuff on top of AceEvent, I need TriggerEvent too badly |
| 15:58.36 | Industrial | you'll have one frame (2 tables) per init handler |
| 15:58.50 | nevcairiel | triggerevent is the devil imho |
| 15:58.55 | cncfanatics | its handy |
| 15:59.17 | Xinhuan | if i want to initialize, i just use ADDON_LOADED, if i want onEnable and onDisable, i want to call them myself, and not some library doing it for me adding overhead |
| 15:59.20 | nevcairiel | try TriggerEvent("PLAYER_LOGOUT"), and see what happens to your UI :P |
| 15:59.40 | cncfanatics | most addons will close ? |
| 15:59.40 | Industrial | Xinhuan: you can put that init handler object in the addon for the addon itself, and create more init handlers if you want |
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| 15:59.49 | cncfanatics | ace addons that is |
| 15:59.58 | Xinhuan | ya you can |
| 16:00.10 | Industrial | meh those events fire once per session |
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| 16:00.27 | Xinhuan | its still a waste to even require acevent |
| 16:00.43 | FrostByghte | hell, after reading through all that Ace3 Rock stuff I can't even remember what I was looking for in the first place |
| 16:00.43 | Industrial | well not aceevent, my own :> |
| 16:01.11 | cncfanatics | I do have custom events set for a lot of stuff, and find them very handy |
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| 16:04.12 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 16:04.16 | cncfanatics | loes |
| 16:05.26 | Fisker- | loes |
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| 16:06.53 | Industrial | Xinhuan: im fixing what I have so I can show you. |
| 16:07.08 | Xinhuan | don't, i'm goign to sleep ^^ |
| 16:07.17 | Industrial | aw :( |
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| 16:07.34 | Xinhuan | like 12.05 am now hehe |
| 16:08.04 | cncfanatics | hmmm, what is a nice EU server to reroll on? anyone suggestions |
| 16:08.20 | Industrial | Vashj |
| 16:08.23 | Industrial | A |
| 16:08.48 | Industrial | there's dutch speaking people (I know some rl people and have a shammy there now) |
| 16:09.13 | cncfanatics | I want a server to really reroll on |
| 16:09.19 | cncfanatics | with some people to talk to too preferably :) |
| 16:09.21 | Industrial | yeah, it's a nice server |
| 16:09.25 | cncfanatics | active ? |
| 16:09.30 | Industrial | oh well - I don't know any guilds |
| 16:09.30 | Industrial | yes |
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| 16:10.10 | cncfanatics | currently got a 26 priesty on emerald dream |
| 16:10.17 | cncfanatics | but not entirely sure I like the priestish ways |
| 16:10.24 | kaiden | bleh, something is causing me to error #132 out when and ONLY when i /rl |
| 16:10.25 | kaiden | :( |
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| 16:10.57 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 16:10.58 | purl | i guess pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 16:14.17 | Chompers | loes? |
| 16:14.24 | Industrial | sjaak? |
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| 16:15.27 | kaiden | i need some ideas guys, i installed PallyPower and PallyPowerInfo and i started getting an error #132 randomly either during first load or during /reloadui |
| 16:15.33 | kaiden | now i've deleted those 2 addons and i still get it |
| 16:16.39 | cncfanatics | repair.exe |
| 16:19.39 | Chompers | its in my teeth |
| 16:19.40 | Chompers | ohgod |
| 16:19.47 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 16:20.14 | Chompers | we need a chart to further this pooping |
| 16:20.18 | Wogroipl | cncfanatics: roll on Runetotem, horde side :) |
| 16:20.49 | Chompers | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bristol_Stool_Chart.png |
| 16:20.57 | Chompers | what type is it Fisker- |
| 16:21.32 | Fisker- | 1 and 7 at the same time |
| 16:21.45 | Chompers | a quantum turd |
| 16:21.57 | Chompers | i hpe you were not observing it |
| 16:22.00 | Industrial | Xinhuan: http://pastey.net/73765 |
| 16:22.12 | Industrial | minimal print, event and init handlers |
| 16:22.26 | Industrial | ack some errors |
| 16:22.57 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/73766 |
| 16:23.25 | Xinhuan | i know what you're doing, but it just seems totally unnecessary to me |
| 16:23.34 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.01 | Xinhuan | my addon could just register PLAYER_LOGIN, and in the OnEVent, call OnEnabled(), withotu going thru all that code |
| 16:25.12 | Industrial | yes, but all I have to do in my addon is "a=Addon:New('a') function a:Enable() dostuff end" |
| 16:25.24 | Xinhuan | which is really just 2 lines of code: a registerevent() and a if then else to check for the event |
| 16:25.36 | fixt | Name of the addon that will show/hide addons based on combat ? |
| 16:25.50 | Xinhuan | what you wrote is more of a Library than an addon |
| 16:26.00 | Xinhuan | something that you expect to use very often |
| 16:26.03 | Xinhuan | and make a lot of copies of |
| 16:26.16 | Industrial | yes |
| 16:26.34 | Industrial | fixt: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7528-OnScreen.html |
| 16:27.15 | Xinhuan | however if you are creating 50 frames each registering PLAYER LOGIn, then you should really just have 1 frame listener - not 50 |
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| 16:27.56 | Xinhuan | for eg, a good raid frame addon will have a single event listener, which updates the appropriate raidmember, instead of 40 listeners |
| 16:28.11 | fixt | thank you Industrial |
| 16:28.56 | Industrial | well yes, but you can pass the frame to use. |
| 16:28.58 | Xinhuan | since if you ran it 40 times, each would be doing its on arg1 check |
| 16:28.59 | Industrial | hm still has some errors |
| 16:29.06 | Xinhuan | own* |
| 16:29.25 | Xinhuan | so its better to just have 1 listener, check arg1 once and update accordingly |
| 16:29.49 | Xinhuan | i should look at cnc's code one of these days heh |
| 16:30.43 | Xinhuan | and see if he registered 15 events for each button the user makes, or just have 1 listener update all buttons |
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| 16:31.19 | Industrial | good point though *hacks away* |
| 16:31.37 | Xinhuan | its just one of those more subtle optimizations that can be made |
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| 16:34.05 | fixt | Can anyone name a chat-addon that will notify me when someone wrote in a special channel or whispered me if that channel is not showing ? |
| 16:34.09 | fixt | or does that even exist |
| 16:34.40 | zeeg | zomg new eve engine looks cool :D |
| 16:34.44 | Aeyan | I'm sure it does |
| 16:35.04 | zeeg | dx9 :D |
| 16:35.08 | Fisker- | i'm gonna attack you zeeg |
| 16:35.11 | zeeg | and Mac client! |
| 16:35.11 | zeeg | :D |
| 16:35.15 | zeeg | what more can you want! |
| 16:35.55 | Aeyan | Ack, Kemayo broke wowi |
| 16:37.27 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, one listening, AceEvent ;)Ã |
| 16:37.41 | cncfanatics | actualy, my own handler registers its event into AceEvent |
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| 16:37.53 | cncfanatics | and when it catches the event, it dispatches it to each button's handler |
| 16:38.10 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, was that a good answer ? :p |
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| 16:38.29 | Xinhuan | fair enough ;p |
| 16:38.43 | art3mis | anyone an action pack subscriber for MS ? |
| 16:39.28 | cncfanatics | could use some optimizatio |
| 16:39.35 | cncfanatics | as in buttons unregister their handlers onhide |
| 16:39.38 | cncfanatics | and reregister then onshow |
| 16:39.46 | cncfanatics | but I just cba now |
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| 16:41.29 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, either way, feel free to look at my code :) I like getting comments on my code (as long as nobody messes with it, I actualy like to code alone too) |
| 16:42.12 | Pkekyo | ~whodrop |
| 16:42.39 | Pkekyo | anyone know if the addon WhoDrop is running a database or just collecting info as you get drops? |
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| 16:42.59 | kenlyric | so, in the many discussions of dottimer, did we come up with another mod that tracks dots/hots on multiple targets? |
| 16:43.53 | Johbe | cncfanatics: a true opensource community coder I hear :) |
| 16:43.58 | Pkekyo | art3mis: did you recieve my email? or did the files exceed the 10(?) MB file limit? |
| 16:43.58 | Johbe | :P |
| 16:44.00 | Ed``` | anyone know if aguf uses mobhealth3 ? |
| 16:44.04 | Ed``` | want to ditch mobinfo |
| 16:44.10 | CrazyBenny_ | yea Ed |
| 16:44.13 | Ed``` | imba ty |
| 16:44.22 | cncfanatics | Johbe, lol :p |
| 16:44.51 | kenlyric | does mobinfo give any other info? |
| 16:44.52 | cncfanatics | Johbe, can't really help it, I dont like people messed with my code if they dont code the exact same way as I do |
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| 16:45.26 | Ed``` | also anyone else getting wau errors recently ? |
| 16:45.39 | Thrae | Changes pending 2.2 (to be released Q4 2007) -- "We have added a new, innovative battlegrounds called 'Hammer of War'!" |
| 16:45.41 | cncfanatics | it wont start on linux (the java version that is) |
| 16:46.05 | Ed``` | running xp and it just errors out after a few seconds of running |
| 16:46.26 | kenlyric | I think there was a bug somewhere along the line and you have to install again. |
| 16:46.40 | Ed``` | aha |
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| 16:46.45 | Aeyan | kenlyric, I'm sure you've tested out chronometer by now, but other than NECB and dottimer - I dunno |
| 16:46.51 | Ed``` | ty |
| 16:46.53 | cncfanatics | either way, any FB2 users on ? wanne know if its still bugged |
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| 16:54.12 | cryogen | damn people who post stuff at stupidily high prices to confuse auctioneer on purpose |
| 16:54.52 | FrostByghte | auctioneer advanced I think is supposed to work around that a bit |
| 16:55.10 | FrostByghte | you can ignore specific sellers for one thing |
| 16:55.23 | FrostByghte | I tried it a bit, but had to revert back to 4.0.4 |
| 16:55.36 | FrostByghte | btms is a bit buggy or something |
| 16:56.04 | art3mis | Pkekyo: i got it but im confused as to why there are 2 #1's and 2 #3's |
| 16:56.18 | art3mis | Pkekyo: just havent had a chance to muck with em yet |
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| 16:56.30 | Nickenyfiken_ | Hmm why is high prices a issue? |
| 16:56.51 | cncfanatics | art3mis, would u mind wasting some time for meh ? :p |
| 16:56.58 | cryogen | Nickenyfiken_: skews the market average |
| 16:57.08 | cryogen | FrostByghte: im using aadv, how do you tell it to ignore people? :) |
| 16:57.58 | FrostByghte | I don't know :) I just read it in a forum thread this morning and filed it away as a 'woot that is cool' thing |
| 16:57.58 | Nickenyfiken_ | Doesn't it use like a median? Or something smart to don't use prices that is way off |
| 16:58.06 | cryogen | FrostByghte: ah |
| 16:58.12 | FrostByghte | let me see if I can find it |
| 16:58.19 | cryogen | Nickenyfiken_: it does yes, but it is significantly confused here at least :) |
| 16:58.33 | cryogen | it thinks a good price to sell silk cloth stacks is about 20g |
| 16:58.41 | cryogen | since someone has listed a few with buyput prices of 999g |
| 16:58.43 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r48751 10BigWigs_VashjFFA/ (. BigWigs_VashjFFA.lua): BigWigs_VashjFFA: add option to change loot to Master Looter in phase 3, off by default. |
| 16:58.45 | cryogen | with bud prices of 45s |
| 16:58.53 | cryogen | s/bud/bid/ |
| 16:59.54 | FrostByghte | cryogen: http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/4626/ |
| 17:00.09 | FrostByghte | post 2: "It also includes the functionality to ignore a specific seller." |
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| 17:00.25 | FrostByghte | maybe check around for a method of implementation |
| 17:00.35 | cryogen | yeah i found it :) |
| 17:01.58 | cncfanatics | meh, at how much fps do u guys think a 2.6ghz pc with 1gig ram & a radeon 9600 shld run wow at ? |
| 17:02.12 | fixt | 15 >_<? |
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| 17:02.32 | binder | with the new version of the WAU, is there a way to maintain 2 installs of it since I have 2 different installs of WoW? |
| 17:02.48 | kenlyric | 15, 20 is what I average, and mine is fairly close to that. |
| 17:02.50 | binder | I used to just keep the binaries in seperate folders |
| 17:02.53 | kenlyric | i have more ram. |
| 17:02.53 | Fisker- | :O |
| 17:02.58 | Fisker- | -opengl in wow has been disabled |
| 17:03.06 | cncfanatics | eh ? |
| 17:03.10 | cncfanatics | where how when why who ? |
| 17:03.17 | Fisker- | been since 2.0 |
| 17:03.21 | Fisker- | or 2.0.1 actually |
| 17:03.28 | cncfanatics | it has ? :o |
| 17:03.33 | cncfanatics | oh, just the flag |
| 17:03.37 | Fisker- | fu |
| 17:03.46 | cncfanatics | set "gxapi" "opengl" works just fine I guess |
| 17:03.49 | cncfanatics | else I wouldnt be able to run it :) |
| 17:03.50 | kenlyric | yeah, it'd be hard to run it on mac with directx |
| 17:03.52 | Fisker- | you stalking me? |
| 17:04.17 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r48752 10BigWigs_VashjFFA/BigWigs_VashjFFA.lua: BigWigs_VashjFFA: bugfix |
| 17:04.20 | Fisker- | i hate it when people ruin my obvious trolling |
| 17:04.43 | kenlyric | Adirelle|Wor1: , SSR needs pally seals |
| 17:04.43 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, linux here |
| 17:04.58 | kenlyric | doesn't the linux version just run in wine? |
| 17:04.59 | Fisker- | omg linnix |
| 17:05.20 | Fisker- | you know why Linux sucks cncfanatics? |
| 17:05.30 | Fisker- | Because Thorvalds looks like a pedophile |
| 17:05.41 | Fisker- | true story |
| 17:06.09 | ulic | there is no h in his name |
| 17:06.14 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, it runs VERY badly in dx mode |
| 17:06.21 | cncfanatics | much better in opengl |
| 17:06.56 | Fisker- | ulic pedophiles don't deserve to be spelled correctly |
| 17:07.13 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, you're attempt at trolling is just, eh, sad |
| 17:07.27 | Fisker- | i'm not trolling |
| 17:07.29 | Fisker- | i'm obvious trolling |
| 17:07.43 | Fisker- | also this is actually true |
| 17:08.15 | Fisker- | because there were some report that people didn't like the idea of implementing linux because torvalds looked like a pedophile |
| 17:08.25 | Nickenyfiken_ | Fisker-: what's troll in danish? |
| 17:08.30 | Fisker- | trold |
| 17:08.39 | Nickenyfiken_ | There you have a new nickname |
| 17:08.42 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:08.44 | Fisker- | u |
| 17:08.46 | Nickenyfiken_ | YES! |
| 17:09.04 | Fisker- | infact Microsoft should've posted that point in "Get the facts" |
| 17:09.17 | Fisker- | "Torvalds looks like a pedophile, do you work with pedophiles?" |
| 17:09.18 | Fisker- | :D |
| 17:09.19 | Nickenyfiken_ | Actually i have a troll fag, his name is Trollfager |
| 17:09.30 | Fisker- | reported |
| 17:09.41 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.19 | Fisker- | no :( |
| 17:10.53 | cncfanatics | btw |
| 17:10.56 | cncfanatics | <3 <3 <3 cyCircled |
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| 17:11.51 | cncfanatics | looks really ownish with FB imo, <3 it |
| 17:12.25 | alcohol | cyCircled ? |
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| 17:13.26 | cncfanatics | yea, I just added FB support into it and i'm using it now |
| 17:13.59 | Fisker- | reported for using third party addons |
| 17:14.08 | Fisker- | am i obvious trolling enough? |
| 17:14.52 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, can you even be more obvious ? |
| 17:15.47 | Fisker- | i dunno |
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| 17:28.07 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: uhm |
| 17:28.25 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: ah nevermind |
| 17:28.44 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 17:28.44 | alcohol | what's cyCircled ? |
| 17:28.47 | alcohol | and FB support ? |
| 17:28.51 | alcohol | flashbang ? |
| 17:28.53 | Gnarfoz | flexbar |
| 17:28.58 | Gnarfoz | I'd guess |
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| 17:29.55 | cncfanatics | cyCircled is what makes actionbuttons round & glossy |
| 17:29.58 | cncfanatics | FB is flexbar |
| 17:30.03 | alcohol | I see |
| 17:32.19 | echos_ | Is there any descent SVN client for linux that works well under gnome? |
| 17:32.47 | genetik- | svn(1) |
| 17:32.49 | cncfanatics | svn in command line is what I use (i'm on gnome) |
| 17:33.05 | Nickenyfiken_ | Hmm can someone tell whats different between tattle and gladiator? |
| 17:33.11 | Nickenyfiken_ | Just started doing some arenas |
| 17:34.45 | cncfanatics | no idea |
| 17:36.34 | Nickenyfiken_ | :-( |
| 17:37.04 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r48753 10Elephant/ (7 files): |
| 17:37.04 | CIA-22 | Elephant: |
| 17:37.04 | CIA-22 | - You should not be able to add erroneous filters anymore. |
| 17:37.04 | CIA-22 | - Elephant will automatically recreate structures for channels that were filtered when you delete a filter. |
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| 17:39.04 | Lukian | Is there an addon which gives only the swapping functionality of itemrack? |
| 17:39.27 | charon | echos_: to add to thie silliness: emacs psvn works in any "gui", too ;) |
| 17:39.28 | cncfanatics | closetgnome |
| 17:39.33 | charon | s/thie/the |
| 17:39.42 | cncfanatics | oh, this song |
| 17:39.45 | cncfanatics | so much great memories |
| 17:39.49 | Lukian | no, the "itemrack" swapping in the character pane. ie. per item |
| 17:39.59 | cncfanatics | The White stripes is the group, someone guess the song please |
| 17:41.28 | Recluse | ? fell in love with a girl ? |
| 17:41.50 | kenlyric | cncfanatics: incest is best? |
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| 17:42.51 | cncfanatics | Recluse, yes, but what does that have to do with seven nation army ? :p |
| 17:43.05 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:43.12 | cncfanatics | yo ckk |
| 17:44.07 | ulic | Lukian: SwapMagic |
| 17:44.38 | Lukian | ulic: yeah I'm using it :/ I'm hoping there was something else, or it'll be updated. it current.. uh sucks. |
| 17:45.31 | ulic | I never used itemrack, but swap magic compares to Outfitters single item swap. What features are you looking for that SwapMagic doesn't have? |
| 17:45.43 | Lukian | Item Tooltips don't even display properly |
| 17:46.29 | ulic | anything else? |
| 17:46.36 | Lukian | Outfitters single item swap <- purely that, without anything unnecessary |
| 17:46.53 | Lukian | so no |
| 17:47.16 | Stan__ | yo ckknight |
| 17:47.30 | Lukian | I haven't looked into swapmagic settings yet, but can I make it a single row and not have to use a modifier key? |
| 17:47.33 | ulic | ok, so just need to fleshout the issue with the Tooltips, I'll have a looksee |
| 17:47.49 | Kemayo | Aeyan: Eh? |
| 17:48.42 | Lukian | ulic, cheers :) |
| 17:48.46 | ulic | you can make it single row, I added that option myself, don't know about modifier key, could look into that. |
| 17:49.12 | ulic | how does IR/Outfitter do it without a modifier key? |
| 17:49.18 | ulic | I forget |
| 17:49.21 | Aeyan | Kemayo: They had AuldLangSyne on the Interface Spotlight on the main page and it displayed the paypal button as a link =P |
| 17:49.30 | Aeyan | Stretched the page massively out of proportion |
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| 17:49.52 | Lukian | ulic: i believe it pops out after the mouse is held for a duration, or dragged slightly while held |
| 17:50.09 | Lukian | or perhaps simply left clicking on the item |
| 17:50.10 | ulic | might have to reinstall one to double check out that behaves. |
| 17:50.29 | Kemayo | Aeyan: Ahhh. Well, fair enough. |
| 17:50.29 | ulic | I think it was left-click on Outfitter |
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| 17:51.08 | ulic | logging in now to see what's not working with the tooltips |
| 17:51.11 | Lukian | outfitter is the preferred behaviour , I assumed (wrongly?) they borrowed the "item rack" feature from self-titled. |
| 17:52.29 | fixt | can you change the frame/color of the debuff icons on Pitbull ? |
| 17:52.49 | moonsorrow | Lukian: in which way are the item tooltips incorrect? |
| 17:52.52 | ulic | hightlight color yes, I can never remember where though. |
| 17:53.00 | Aeyan | The new itemrack only takes up 174kb of memory |
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| 17:53.11 | Aeyan | Though, yeah, might provide a little more function than you want |
| 17:53.19 | Lukian | Aeyan, yeah, but that's ~150KB I don't need :D |
| 17:53.24 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 17:53.31 | Lukian | moonsorrow, need a screenshot? |
| 17:53.33 | Aeyan | Well, you can always write some macros |
| 17:53.34 | moonsorrow | sure |
| 17:54.37 | fixt | Any barmod or like small bartype that has buttons like Autobar with dropdown menus for multiple managems ? Just dont want autobar due to that green/red circle down in the corner |
| 17:54.43 | ulic | btw, thanks moonsorrow SM makes a great compliment to ClosetGnome. |
| 17:55.06 | Lukian | oh, silly, fulltooltip defaults to off |
| 17:55.13 | Lukian | that should be on by default |
| 17:55.27 | moonsorrow | that's what I thought |
| 17:55.36 | ulic | ah, they do, I should have noticed that. |
| 17:55.43 | moonsorrow | and what's set by default is my decision after all :) |
| 17:56.08 | ulic | Lukian: so now you love it! |
| 17:56.20 | ulic | except maybe the binding thingy |
| 17:56.41 | Lukian | ulic, yeah, holding alt is a little annoying, but i wouldn't mind having to hold if briefly, as long as I could release it while browsing items |
| 17:57.13 | moonsorrow | uhm |
| 17:57.15 | moonsorrow | you can? |
| 17:57.17 | Lukian | by browsing, I'm including the equipped item |
| 17:57.24 | Lukian | which by mousing over, the others disappear |
| 18:00.15 | Lukian | menu should really stay open until i "click off", close the window or open another |
| 18:00.55 | Lukian | gtg anyways, good night all :) |
| 18:02.45 | fixt | any fubar plugin for portals/teleport =D? |
| 18:03.41 | Kirkburn | Students in the US, UK, Canada, France, Italy or Spain - Microsoft is doing an incredibly cheap Office Ultimate 2007 offer for $60 - http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070913/office-ultimate-steal/ |
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| 18:04.57 | TNSe | keylogger |
| 18:06.56 | fixt | Is there anything very wrong with following: /script if ChatFrame1:IsVisible() then ChatFrame1:Hide(); ChatFrame2:Show(); elseif ChatFrame2:IsVisible() then ChatFrame2:Hide(); ChatFrame3:Show(); else ChatFrame3:Hide(); ChatFrame1:Show(); end; |
| 18:07.06 | Kirkburn | I'm really restraining myself from calling you names atm TNSe |
| 18:07.08 | fixt | it cycles through my 3 chatwindows fine, but for some reason my chatwindows just decide to jump to whichever they want later |
| 18:07.20 | fixt | i think it doesnt actually set the chatwindow as active or something |
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| 18:07.57 | TNSe | Kirkburn, sorry, reflex :P |
| 18:09.24 | cncfanatics | bk from dinner |
| 18:09.42 | cncfanatics | Kirkburn, why buy stuff u can get for free ? |
| 18:09.46 | cncfanatics | and legaly |
| 18:09.49 | cncfanatics | openoffice |
| 18:10.21 | dreamss | google office! |
| 18:11.44 | Kirkburn | There's a big difference between Open Office and Office 2007Ultimate |
| 18:12.08 | Kirkburn | You could compare one of the other editions, but not that one |
| 18:12.29 | slug3 | yeah, with openoffice I have £300 in my pocket |
| 18:13.42 | cncfanatics | Kirkburn, why ? |
| 18:13.50 | Kirkburn | Congratulations on not reading the post slug3 |
| 18:13.52 | cncfanatics | except eyecandy they added I cant really see what office can still get added |
| 18:14.01 | cncfanatics | lemme check ur link too :) |
| 18:15.16 | cncfanatics | what features does office bring over openoffice ? |
| 18:15.25 | cncfanatics | I haven't actualy ran any recent version of office since 2000 |
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| 18:16.14 | Kirkburn | "Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook with Business Contact Manager, OneNote, Publisher, Access, Groove, and InfoPath" |
| 18:16.35 | cncfanatics | World, Excel , Powerpoint all have their equivalents |
| 18:16.40 | cncfanatics | same for Access |
| 18:17.02 | Kirkburn | Right, and what about Outlook, OneNote, Publisher, Groove and InfoPath? |
| 18:17.09 | cncfanatics | outlook -> thunderbird |
| 18:17.13 | cncfanatics | and I don't know what the others do , so :) |
| 18:17.17 | dreamss | gmail>outlook |
| 18:17.29 | cncfanatics | agree there too |
| 18:17.35 | dreamss | World, Excel mmmm google apps |
| 18:17.39 | Kirkburn | The two, again, aren't comparable products |
| 18:17.50 | cncfanatics | gmail is a fully featured, online, messaging client |
| 18:18.04 | Kirkburn | "fully featured" |
| 18:18.33 | dreamss | wtf is Outlook with Business Contact Manager? |
| 18:18.35 | dreamss | then |
| 18:18.38 | Kirkburn | That's marketing speak, not actual speak |
| 18:19.07 | Kirkburn | Outlook is more than just an email client |
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| 18:20.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone here use pidgin on windows? |
| 18:20.51 | cncfanatics | not on windows no |
| 18:21.15 | ckknight | ~seen bam__ |
| 18:21.17 | purl | bam__ <n=pervel@0x573c0536.boanqu2.broadband.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 22h 24m ago, saying: 'purl sucks'. |
| 18:21.59 | stavmar | outlook is a good product when it does not eat up all your resources, I had to switch to thunderbird and use my iphone for calendering. |
| 18:22.27 | cncfanatics | well, I don't use any microsoft software anymore for various reasons :) (I do use their hardware, <3 their lil laser mouse) |
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| 18:22.52 | fixt | Anything special that has to be done for readyspells and recount to work ? recount just freezes on screen and readyspells doesnt show a single thing |
| 18:23.10 | Pkekyo | how's enchantrix on memory usage? |
| 18:24.04 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 18:24.06 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 57 messages. Is idling for 39m 45s, last said: 'yay!'. |
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| 18:24.07 | Pkekyo | art3mis: the duplicate numbers are due to there being four upper slices (you did one of them) and there's three lower slices as well... |
| 18:25.13 | charon | fixt: readyspells should have a default config that does display stuff, and it works for me... have you tried unlocking the anchor? |
| 18:25.25 | charon | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.05 | charon | (actual configuration _is_ painful since for most things you'll have to log out and edit SV) |
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| 18:28.12 | art3mis | Pkekyo: okies ill store em in seperate folders then |
| 18:30.48 | Chompers | can i make Quartz/chronometer show the cd on ritual of souls/create soulstone? |
| 18:32.09 | sb | Funkeh`: its phase 2? |
| 18:32.32 | Funkeh` | sb: what? |
| 18:32.36 | sb | vashj |
| 18:32.40 | sb | its ffa in phase 2!? |
| 18:32.45 | sb | ahh okay |
| 18:32.45 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 18:32.50 | sb | it changes ffa -> ML in p3 |
| 18:32.55 | sb | reading ftw |
| 18:33.18 | sb | also auto-ffa in phase2? |
| 18:33.56 | Pkekyo | sorry about the confusion art3mis, should've mentioned it in the email |
| 18:34.55 | YourMomsHero | hey all, I've seen people mention a mod they called "ebbs" in here... what's that an acronym for? I can't find it with just googlin' ebbs mod |
| 18:34.56 | Antiarc | http://www.marryourdaughter.com/ |
| 18:35.00 | Antiarc | Whaaaaaaaaaaat the hell. |
| 18:35.06 | Antiarc | What the heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell. |
| 18:35.07 | art3mis | welcome to last week anti |
| 18:35.16 | Antiarc | Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat the heeeeeeeeeeelllllllllll. |
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| 18:35.29 | Pkekyo | YourMomsHero: Elkano's Buff Bars, I'd imagine... |
| 18:35.39 | art3mis | its a joke page, check o0ut the keywords at the very bottom and then read the testiomonials |
| 18:35.46 | YourMomsHero | Pkekyo: thanks! |
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| 18:38.27 | hyperChipmunk | seems the right kinda keywords to me |
| 18:38.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: what the crap?! |
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| 18:39.22 | Pkekyo | " |
| 18:39.22 | Pkekyo | ?Our 15 year old daughter Mary wasn?t very popular and did nothing but mope around the house bringing everybody down, so we decided to marry her off through your site. Now our house is a lot cheerier and we love our new swimming pool and Jaccuzi! We?ve told our youngest that when she turns 15 we?re going to marry her off too!"" |
| 18:39.22 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 18:39.25 | hyperChipmunk | the testimonials are awesome |
| 18:39.46 | Industrial | if I do function a:b() foo() end, can I reference a inside foo eg not by argument but is there some "calling environment" lookup? |
| 18:40.01 | Pkekyo | ?My mother thought I was getting ?too frisky?...." bullshit, there's no such thing as too frisky! |
| 18:40.11 | Industrial | ill ask in #lua :P |
| 18:40.44 | hyperChipmunk | Please do not propose to multiple Daughters or you risk having all your proposals disqualified. |
| 18:40.48 | hyperChipmunk | D8< |
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| 18:41.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial: good idea :) |
| 18:42.07 | Pkekyo | box of 10 good movies on DVD at about £7-8 sounds like a steal, no? |
| 18:42.12 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: http://www.leasticoulddo.com/comic/20070911 |
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| 18:43.45 | Funkeh` | sb: auto ffa on engage |
| 18:45.47 | cncfanatics | ding :p |
| 18:45.59 | art3mis | who has a macbook and a pc? |
| 18:46.16 | ckknight | um, me |
| 18:46.42 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: depends what movies obviously... :P |
| 18:46.47 | art3mis | ckknight: does yer macbook have a vga connector on the back? |
| 18:46.57 | ckknight | no |
| 18:47.01 | sb | Funkeh`: nice! :) |
| 18:47.02 | ckknight | DVI or whatever it is |
| 18:47.11 | art3mis | i need to share mouse/keyboard and monitor between a macbook and pc desktop |
| 18:47.16 | art3mis | okay thanks |
| 18:47.47 | Punkie` | you can get a DVI -> VGA convertor anyway |
| 18:47.54 | dodga | art3mis: VNC :Y |
| 18:48.14 | art3mis | heh he wants physical connections ;P |
| 18:48.22 | art3mis | not really sure why |
| 18:48.35 | dodga | There are cables for that, or switches :D |
| 18:48.51 | art3mis | hence why i was asking what graphics external port it had ;P |
| 18:48.52 | Stan__ | macbook has mini-dvi |
| 18:49.12 | art3mis | god did you take a bottle of Retardex-B this morning ;) |
| 18:49.25 | dodga | No, good stuff? Where can I get it? :> |
| 18:49.28 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:49.40 | art3mis | ask fisker about it ;) |
| 18:49.59 | dodga | Fisker-: Hey, where can I get that Retardex-B stuff art3mis is talking about? :> |
| 18:50.27 | NightHawkTheSane | damn.. this is awesome: http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=359313 |
| 18:50.36 | ckknight | only at every local drugstore, dodga |
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| 18:53.28 | dodga | NightHawkTheSane: DAMN, that's where the last secret levels are. I never found those! |
| 18:53.33 | dodga | Truly awesome |
| 18:53.39 | dodga | Where's my Super Nintendo... |
| 18:54.11 | Antiarc | http://www.getafirstlife.com/ |
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| 18:54.30 | dodga | Antiarc: I wonder what you're trying to tell me... |
| 18:55.33 | NeoTron | my attempts at tankign void reaver last night didn't pan out |
| 18:55.41 | NeoTron | (accidentally aggrod him on my way to my spot) |
| 18:55.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48754 10PitBull/PitBull/InteractLines/InteractLines.lua: PitBull_interactLines - fix a typo |
| 18:56.02 | NeoTron | I'm a lock. Took a crushing blow, then he hit my felguard twice and then returned to kill me. still proud I lived like 6s :P |
| 18:57.41 | kovi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qCEyJ98QIU |
| 18:57.52 | dodga | Voidreaver like always smacks me down in one blow.. Shadowpriests can't tank shit :P |
| 18:57.55 | kovi | this mario level is way better imo, it's even synched to the music at one point |
| 18:57.56 | kovi | -_- |
| 18:57.58 | NeoTron | well |
| 18:58.10 | NeoTron | I took a 11.5k hit (20% going to the felguard via soul link) |
| 18:58.19 | NeoTron | I had less than 1k HP left |
| 18:58.58 | catid | Last night in SSC against Hydross, my shadowpriest was top of the aggro list under the MT for frost phase. We were about to switch phases, so I ran to the poison side and waited. The tank died and boss was right in my face before he switched to poison and our poison tank picked him up :} |
| 18:58.59 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=au1o4ddeo63rs&s=10877-11382&a=6&dth=0 |
| 18:59.21 | catid | Kiting ftw.. |
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| 19:00.06 | NeoTron | I got... surprised that I pulled and surprised that I lived the first hit |
| 19:00.12 | NeoTron | I might have lived had I done the right thing |
| 19:00.26 | catid | warlocks have the health of a tank.. |
| 19:00.56 | cncfanatics | not the armor |
| 19:01.18 | catid | There are a few fights where my guild has a warlock kite or tank something big, if it just does magic damage |
| 19:01.31 | NeoTron | well I am the leotheras tank |
| 19:01.40 | NeoTron | I also tank AR tank solariab |
| 19:01.48 | catid | yeah like the leo fight |
| 19:02.04 | catid | resist fights suck by the way |
| 19:02.05 | NeoTron | will tank kael'thas tonight |
| 19:02.08 | NeoTron | first time going there |
| 19:02.10 | NeoTron | heh |
| 19:02.25 | NeoTron | I have, with felhunter, >400 FR now (no I don't wear it all but I tanked as destro spec too) |
| 19:02.27 | catid | last night our warlock tank got one-shotted just completely bad luck.. |
| 19:02.32 | NeoTron | I have about 530 AR |
| 19:02.49 | catid | well done |
| 19:02.53 | cncfanatics | how did u get such stupidly low amounts of rez ? |
| 19:02.55 | NeoTron | biggest hit I've taken and survived on leo was like 21.5k (with soul link) |
| 19:03.03 | catid | us dpsers don't need it <3 |
| 19:03.27 | NeoTron | basically hit me for 17.5k or so |
| 19:03.36 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: low amounts of res? |
| 19:03.43 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.52 | cncfanatics | NeoTron, how did u manage to get such huge rez ? |
| 19:03.58 | NeoTron | oh |
| 19:04.01 | NeoTron | resistance |
| 19:04.13 | NeoTron | 70 from felhunter, and then motw to start |
| 19:04.29 | NeoTron | then I have the epic AR gear and basically blue/green AR, enchant, +4 resist all gems etc |
| 19:04.38 | cncfanatics | nice stuff |
| 19:04.41 | NeoTron | FR is just epic/blue/green pieces |
| 19:05.00 | NeoTron | last night I looked though and my AR (with the debuff stack) was only down to around 430ish |
| 19:05.04 | NeoTron | so I have more AR than I need |
| 19:05.13 | NeoTron | just can't go below 365 buffee |
| 19:05.38 | rob` | what's the resist cap these days? |
| 19:05.56 | cncfanatics | that boss is unaffected by the cap |
| 19:06.00 | cncfanatics | he stacks a -rez debuff |
| 19:06.00 | rob` | I thought 365 was the max. |
| 19:06.06 | rob` | oh, spiffy. |
| 19:06.12 | cncfanatics | so u'll have to be above the cap anyway |
| 19:06.24 | cncfanatics | long live solarian :p |
| 19:09.18 | CIA-22 | 03kameril * r48755 10VisualThemes/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:09.18 | CIA-22 | VisualThemes: |
| 19:09.18 | CIA-22 | -Added support for AdvancedTradeSkillWindow |
| 19:15.26 | cncfanatics | Tekkub, dunno if ur around but thanks for making my wiki page prettyer :) |
| 19:15.33 | cncfanatics | ~seen Tekkub |
| 19:15.37 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 12h 42m 49s ago, saying: 'but you're not allowed if the religion doesn't and you do'. |
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| 19:31.48 | sb | hm visualthemes screenshot? |
| 19:32.01 | durcyn | hard to screenshot.. it animates frame show/hide |
| 19:32.04 | sb | ah wiki |
| 19:32.10 | sb | movie ;p |
| 19:32.14 | sb | heh |
| 19:32.35 | sb | nice ;o |
| 19:38.55 | Chompers | al'ar to 50% |
| 19:39.07 | Diao | make a stage6 of it :P |
| 19:39.13 | Chompers | getting to phase 2 takes ages ;/ |
| 19:39.28 | Chompers | it seems unnecessary |
| 19:39.52 | genetik- | tank competency check |
| 19:39.52 | genetik- | heh |
| 19:40.54 | Chompers | very true |
| 19:41.02 | Chompers | we've got some good tanks tonight, so fingers crossed |
| 19:41.11 | genetik- | good luck |
| 19:41.20 | genetik- | closest we've gotten al'ar to is 31% in phase 2 |
| 19:41.33 | genetik- | he meteored into the damn wall and evaded |
| 19:41.40 | Chompers | :O |
| 19:41.44 | Chompers | that's harsh |
| 19:41.46 | genetik- | yeah |
| 19:41.50 | genetik- | it was nearly perfect, too |
| 19:41.56 | genetik- | our execution, that is |
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| 19:44.53 | Cyrez | ckknight: Is the Rock branch of PitBull usable yet or are you still working on that? |
| 19:45.28 | ckknight | gimme like... 10 minutes |
| 19:45.36 | Cyrez | K. ^^ |
| 19:45.49 | ckknight | it's usable |
| 19:45.53 | ckknight | currently porting over the options |
| 19:45.55 | ckknight | for all of it |
| 19:46.05 | Cyrez | Oooo... |
| 19:46.39 | Cyrez | Since I got this new rig I wanted to build my UI from the ground up. |
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| 19:52.18 | Kody- | Does Jerry hang out in here? Author of Talented |
| 19:53.04 | ckknight | not really |
| 19:53.09 | Kody- | :( |
| 19:53.14 | ckknight | I've always contacted him on the wowace forums |
| 19:53.19 | Kody- | Ah ok |
| 19:53.26 | Kody- | I'll see if I can get ahold of him there, thanks |
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| 19:57.44 | zeeg | gg w/ kaelten breaking the files page ;) |
| 19:58.05 | Josh_Borke | meh, shit happens |
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| 19:58.19 | Kaelten | :P |
| 20:02.01 | Gnarfoz | genetik-: yeah, that happens to test |
| 20:02.11 | Gnarfoz | if you can actually repeat that *one* stellar performance ;D |
| 20:02.20 | genetik- | haha |
| 20:02.26 | genetik- | yeah |
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| 20:06.16 | Fisker- | btw Punkie` |
| 20:06.19 | Fisker- | i am going to rape you |
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| 20:10.05 | Fisker- | no Gnarfoz |
| 20:10.08 | Fisker- | i am serious :( |
| 20:10.13 | Gnarfoz | NO U |
| 20:10.17 | Fisker- | i think Punkie` might've attacked a 10-year old girl here |
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| 20:15.22 | Quator1a | ugh, |
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| 20:16.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Why does files.wowace.com suck now? |
| 20:16.56 | Josh_Borke | ZealotOnAStick: i blame pasta |
| 20:17.14 | ZealotOnAStick | that'd be my guess as well . . . |
| 20:17.48 | ZealotOnAStick | no "show me all of them, dammit" view as an option anywhere? 38 bloody pages? Might as well just group them into alphabetical pages, that'd cut down the count by 11-12 alone there. |
| 20:17.53 | ZealotOnAStick | no revs . . . |
| 20:18.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Is this an in-progress thing that shouldn't perhaps really be live yet? |
| 20:18.56 | Josh_Borke | ZealotOnAStick: all the info is there |
| 20:19.11 | Josh_Borke | ZealotOnAStick: it's just displayed on your computer separated out |
| 20:19.42 | ZealotOnAStick | that sucks. |
| 20:19.51 | ZealotOnAStick | and no, I'm seeing "-" for the revision for everything. |
| 20:20.12 | dgilbert | hi folks, I'm looking to host an addon on acesvn, is it cool to ask in here or should I send off an email? |
| 20:20.34 | ZealotOnAStick | read the wiki, it's got info on what address to email and what to include. |
| 20:20.57 | dgilbert | thanks zealot |
| 20:21.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48756 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - add arguments to :OpenConfigMenu, which open to a specific spot. |
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| 20:21.17 | cladhaire | ZealotOnAStick: uhh its being worked on. |
| 20:21.23 | yssaril | wow files.wowace.com is worse than it was before imo at least include a search function or browse by catogory/alphabetical function (show all would also be nice) |
| 20:21.28 | cladhaire | ZealotOnAStick: perhaps you should calm down ;-) |
| 20:21.49 | ZealotOnAStick | See above questions, clad. |
| 20:22.11 | cladhaire | understood, yes its in-progress |
| 20:22.13 | ZealotOnAStick | that falls under "in-progress" so, ok . . . though I personally think such a thing should be tested before live. |
| 20:22.34 | yssaril | at least it is easy to find my addons very bottom of last page :P |
| 20:22.47 | cladhaire | i agree, personally :P |
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| 20:24.51 | CIA-22 | 03yssaril * r48757 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_GUI.lua YGS_GUI.xml YssGuildShop.toc): |
| 20:24.51 | CIA-22 | YssGuildShop: |
| 20:24.51 | CIA-22 | - Improved Garbage creation when viewing items by an insane amount (was creating new tables each time the scrollbar updated oops :P) |
| 20:25.06 | Josh_Borke | NightHawkTheSane: great game :-) |
| 20:25.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Josh_Borke: indeed. I' |
| 20:25.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I've played it before, but felt like playing again :) |
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| 20:26.00 | Industrial | ~botmail for tekkub you should add a little if around DazeOfOurLives with if select(2, UnitClass('player')) == 'HUNTER' then |
| 20:27.49 | Dotted | ~botmail |
| 20:28.13 | Josh_Borke | ~botmail for Shirik hi :-) |
| 20:28.28 | Industrial | .. |
| 20:28.42 | ckknight | ~botmail for tekkub: actually, to go with Industrial's thing, you should do if select(2, UnitClass('player')) ~= "HUNTER" then return end at the top, instead of wrapping the whole thing |
| 20:28.46 | Industrial | Josh_Borke: yeah and im dumb |
| 20:29.20 | Industrial | ckknight: grats, you understand the concept of 'not'. it's a 5 line addon |
| 20:29.26 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:29.28 | ckknight | thought it was bigger |
| 20:29.31 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 20:29.41 | ckknight | it's just that some people don't know that you can return from a file |
| 20:29.43 | NightHawkTheSane | that's what she said |
| 20:29.49 | Industrial | lol n |
| 20:29.51 | Industrial | NightHawkTheSane: |
| 20:30.08 | Industrial | ckknight: http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/DazeOfOurLives/DazeOfOurLives.lua |
| 20:30.12 | Industrial | its a pretty handy addon |
| 20:30.24 | Industrial | insta cancels cheetah aspect when you get dazed |
| 20:30.29 | NightHawkTheSane | that reminds me,i need to grab that for my hunter |
| 20:31.14 | Industrial | oh |
| 20:31.19 | Industrial | he uses loadmanager with it |
| 20:31.29 | Industrial | its fine then I guess |
| 20:33.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48758 10PitBull/PitBull/ (28 files in 27 dirs): |
| 20:33.18 | CIA-22 | Pitbull - upgrade configuration from Dewdrop to LibRockConfig-1.0. |
| 20:33.18 | CIA-22 | - remove FuBar plugin support. |
| 20:33.28 | cladhaire | Industrial: nub |
| 20:33.45 | Industrial | what'd I do now |
| 20:33.53 | cladhaire | exist |
| 20:33.56 | cladhaire | that was enough to convince me. |
| 20:34.29 | Industrial | T_T |
| 20:34.44 | Industrial | yeah well |
| 20:34.48 | Industrial | NUH! |
| 20:35.08 | Gnarfoz | pretty convincing, indeed |
| 20:35.17 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 20:38.14 | cryogen | is there a good way to test changes to addons without restarting wow? |
| 20:38.26 | cryogen | (is this answered in a newbie faq somewhere?) |
| 20:38.27 | ckknight | cryogen: /rl |
| 20:38.33 | Aeyan | If you mess with addon, you can just /rl |
| 20:38.36 | ckknight | unless you add/remove files |
| 20:38.43 | Aeyan | If you mess with a savedvariable, you'll have to restart |
| 20:38.59 | cryogen | will that reload xml changes too? |
| 20:39.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48759 10PitBull/PitBull/ (9 files in 3 dirs): PitBull - move all media into the media folder. |
| 20:39.27 | Aeyan | Hmm, dunno |
| 20:39.30 | Aeyan | Try it! |
| 20:39.53 | cladhaire | yes, XML is reloaded. |
| 20:39.56 | ckknight | cryogen: it reloads lua and xml changes |
| 20:39.57 | ckknight | not toc |
| 20:40.03 | ckknight | for toc, you have to logoff |
| 20:40.36 | cladhaire | you can add a file to the .toc, if the file existed at the start of the session, iirc. |
| 20:40.46 | cladhaire | metadata changes are not reloaded, howeever |
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| 20:44.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48760 10LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0/LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0.lua: LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0 - bugfix |
| 20:44.51 | cladhaire | ckknight: I'm jealous of your success in the Lord. |
| 20:44.53 | cladhaire | by the way. |
| 20:44.59 | ckknight | Lord? |
| 20:45.04 | cladhaire | have you ever seen "Saved"? |
| 20:45.07 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 20:45.09 | ckknight | great movie. |
| 20:45.12 | cladhaire | indeed ;-) |
| 20:45.17 | cladhaire | Bam reminded how jealous of you I am |
| 20:45.23 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:45.46 | ckknight | you finally have a sin to confess |
| 20:45.51 | ckknight | the sin of envy |
| 20:46.03 | cladhaire | ha! |
| 20:46.10 | cladhaire | I didn't, sadly |
| 20:46.13 | ckknight | aw |
| 20:46.13 | cladhaire | what is it? |
| 20:46.15 | ckknight | great episode |
| 20:46.22 | ckknight | Rod + Todd were watching a christian program |
| 20:46.49 | ckknight | and the sheep said "I wish I had a sin to confess". "You do have a sin to confess - the sin of envy" |
| 20:47.05 | ckknight | Rod: "Well, that's all well and good for sheep, but what are we to do?" |
| 20:47.19 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 20:47.37 | cladhaire | I don't watch as much TV as I'd like sometimes |
| 20:47.39 | cladhaire | so many good shows. |
| 20:47.43 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:47.48 | ckknight | I think that was season 8 or 9 |
| 20:48.27 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r48761 10VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua: |
| 20:48.27 | CIA-22 | VisualHeal: |
| 20:48.27 | CIA-22 | - PlayerBar stuck/weirdness bug-fix |
| 20:48.40 | Saint-N | i wish homer simpson was our father. And I wish you didnt have the devils curly hair. |
| 20:48.50 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: yeah,but the problem is you start trying to watch too much tv, and even though it's all good.. there's only so much time in the day. >< |
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| 20:49.11 | cladhaire | aye |
| 20:49.13 | cladhaire | time shifting ftw |
| 20:49.22 | ckknight | lol, Saint-N |
| 20:49.27 | Saint-N | Sports... brought to you by God, the invisible giant. |
| 20:49.36 | NightHawkTheSane | speaking of which! sg:a 4x01 is available! woo! |
| 20:49.38 | Saint-N | that is the single funniest line in all of simpsons history |
| 20:50.11 | alcohol | soon a new season of heroes, and prison break ! :x |
| 20:50.26 | Industrial | heroes! |
| 20:50.40 | alcohol | <3 |
| 20:50.46 | alcohol | 24th |
| 20:50.46 | NightHawkTheSane | when does s2 of heroes air? |
| 20:50.50 | Dotted | 24th |
| 20:50.52 | alcohol | ^ |
| 20:51.03 | NightHawkTheSane | neat. |
| 20:51.05 | Dotted | and family guy the 23rd |
| 20:51.09 | Saint-N | screw heros |
| 20:51.13 | Saint-N | new dexter soon |
| 20:51.17 | Dotted | 1 hour star wars parody episode |
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| 20:51.48 | Gnarfoz | ~seen xbeeps |
| 20:51.51 | purl | Gnarfoz: i haven't seen 'xbeeps' |
| 20:51.52 | Industrial | fun, even |
| 20:52.15 | Saint-N | purl are you fat? |
| 20:52.27 | Saint-N | purl, are you fat? |
| 20:52.33 | Saint-N | aww |
| 20:52.41 | Saint-N | someone go code aneliza module into it |
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| 20:54.53 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: WHAT? WHERE |
| 20:55.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: you mean sg:a? mininova.org |
| 20:55.35 | Gnarfoz | hm indeed |
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| 21:00.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48762 10LibRockModuleCore-1.0/LibRockModuleCore-1.0.lua: LibRockModuleCore-1.0 - fix issue with :NewModule and contracts. |
| 21:01.16 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: dvdscr o_O |
| 21:10.59 | Stan__ | Yar har, fiddle dee dee! Being a pirate is alright to be! |
| 21:11.01 | Stan__ | *dances* |
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| 21:14.36 | ckknight | do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate! |
| 21:15.04 | Stan__ | :D |
| 21:15.23 | Chompers | NightHawkTheSane: you lie |
| 21:15.28 | Chompers | i see no sga:a 4x01 |
| 21:16.18 | Nickenyfiken_ | Hmm hmm BigWigs didn't get enabled today when i was doing kara. I usually don't care much about BigWigs until Curator when i first notice it. |
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| 21:16.43 | Nickenyfiken_ | Atleast i didn't get any warning or bars and shit |
| 21:17.12 | Josh_Borke | bye bye all |
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| 21:17.46 | Nickenyfiken_ | Bye bye |
| 21:18.46 | Gnarfoz | Chompers: it's there, but it's a dvdscr without sound fx, at least the comments say so :) |
| 21:20.43 | yssaril | ckknight with the pitbullrock to acces the config you have to type in a slash comand? |
| 21:20.48 | Aens|Superiority | hum, does anyone else have a problem with cycircled and it covering up the regent quantity remaining? |
| 21:20.58 | ckknight | or ctrl-right-click and such on the unit frames |
| 21:21.16 | yssaril | k |
| 21:21.17 | ckknight | yssaril: I'll be adding a minimap button later |
| 21:21.32 | yssaril | ckknight: minmap/fubar button? |
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| 21:21.42 | ckknight | yssaril: something like that. |
| 21:21.52 | ckknight | for the generic Rock config, not for PitBull, methinks |
| 21:21.56 | yssaril | good cause my minimap already has way to many buttons |
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| 21:22.18 | yssaril | basically call up rock config from which you can call pitbull config? |
| 21:22.34 | CIA-22 | 03starinnia * r48763 10SimpleMD/SimpleMD.lua: |
| 21:22.34 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 21:22.34 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Raid/Party broadcasts |
| 21:22.47 | Stan__ | yssaril: rock config is like niagara |
| 21:23.00 | Stan__ | its a control center |
| 21:23.04 | Stan__ | for all your rock addons |
| 21:23.28 | ckknight | yssaril: try it out, it works now |
| 21:23.47 | ckknight | it shows all your addons at the top level on the left |
| 21:23.52 | ckknight | which you can trickle down into |
| 21:24.07 | yssaril | cknight: cool |
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| 21:27.16 | BankZ | anyone here use arkinventory? |
| 21:27.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48764 10PitBull/PitBull/ (PitBull.toc PitBull_MetaLayout.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 21:27.19 | CIA-22 | PitBull - fix issue in metalayout |
| 21:27.19 | CIA-22 | - fix embeds.xml and libs references. |
| 21:30.06 | BankZ | arkinventory seems nice, just cant figure out how to set the location of the "dead" space |
| 21:30.32 | [Liq] | Possible to make a macro that auto-removes BoS ? |
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| 21:30.54 | deltron | yeah I've seen one |
| 21:31.17 | [dRaCo] | macros require hardware events |
| 21:31.40 | [dRaCo] | but there are... 3 addons on the svn that do that |
| 21:31.45 | [Liq] | well yeah the macro itself does but can't you create a frame with the macro? |
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| 21:32.49 | [dRaCo] | might work, dunno if you can fit all that stuff into 255 chars, though |
| 21:33.39 | [dRaCo] | I'd go for an addon, though |
| 21:33.51 | [dRaCo] | call me lazy, but it's the easiest way ;) |
| 21:33.56 | slug3 | can you not just... right click the buff? |
| 21:34.19 | [dRaCo] | gets annoying in raids when the paladins buff you every 15 minutes |
| 21:34.44 | deltron | hehe |
| 21:34.53 | deltron | I'm probably going to be maining my pally |
| 21:34.55 | deltron | buffing sucks |
| 21:35.00 | deltron | <3 pallypower though |
| 21:35.05 | [Liq] | Uhm 2 macros: 1 to create the frame and another to register/handle the event? |
| 21:35.35 | ckknight | alright, cya all in a little while |
| 21:37.41 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 21:37.44 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 104 messages. Is idling for 2h 46m 40s, last said: 'instead of radio shack next door ;P'. |
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| 21:43.08 | Kaelten | ~seen kaelten |
| 21:43.09 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 41m 10s) #wowace (5h 41m 10s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen kaelten'. |
| 21:43.19 | Kaelten | ~seen Kaelten |
| 21:43.20 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 41m 21s) #wowace (5h 41m 21s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Kaelten'. |
| 21:43.31 | Kaelten | ~seen bob |
| 21:43.32 | purl | bob <n=bob@pcp04370732pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 603d 19h 21m 29s ago, saying: 'cat /dev/input/mice'. |
| 21:43.34 | nevcairiel | ~bored Kaelten |
| 21:44.05 | zeeg | Industrial, wake up :P |
| 21:44.07 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: not much to do? :) |
| 21:45.10 | Industrial | ? |
| 21:46.08 | TNSe | Gagorian, I'm not entirely sure what the numbers mean for paladin on the seals :P |
| 21:47.06 | Kaelten | Pkekyo: http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 21:47.32 | ulic | oh ah |
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| 21:48.04 | ulic | any way to make it give the full list like before, but with the new data included? |
| 21:48.34 | Tokrok | heya |
| 21:48.43 | Kaelten | ulic not atm no :( |
| 21:49.00 | Kaelten | going to work on adding filtering to make it easier to find stuff though |
| 21:49.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: i know it's in development, but instead of page numbers, alphabetically would be a far better way to divide them up |
| 21:49.06 | ulic | or perhaps break it up alphabetically |
| 21:49.14 | ulic | oh cool |
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| 21:49.23 | NeoTron | so tanking as a lock I get salvation on me. I click it off and then get it again |
| 21:49.24 | NeoTron | and again |
| 21:49.31 | ulic | ctrl-f worked well before, but I'm ok with a search/filter |
| 21:49.35 | NeoTron | because one pally, the salv one, was using smartbuff :) |
| 21:49.38 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: what the flying fuck happened? |
| 21:49.46 | Kaelten | Pkekyo: ? |
| 21:49.56 | Industrial | yay update \o/ |
| 21:49.56 | Pkekyo | where did all my lovely addons go? :< |
| 21:50.04 | Kaelten | look at the pages :P |
| 21:50.12 | deltron | eh |
| 21:50.14 | Industrial | Pkekyo: second page nub |
| 21:50.20 | NightHawkTheSane | On theother hand,with the ability to sort by last update means you don't really need to see more than 1 page for the latest updated mods |
| 21:50.27 | Pkekyo | what second page? |
| 21:50.33 | Industrial | top of page |
| 21:50.39 | Industrial | bottom of page |
| 21:50.41 | Industrial | l2internets |
| 21:50.44 | Industrial | ;x |
| 21:50.44 | Pkekyo | WowAce.com's Files - WoW2.0 only |
| 21:50.44 | Pkekyo | Generated by WowAce's Packagemancer (1.5.58). Last updated Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:48:02 +0000. (view errors) |
| 21:50.44 | Pkekyo | only thing I'm getting |
| 21:50.47 | Kaelten | :s |
| 21:50.49 | Kaelten | what browswer? |
| 21:50.56 | Pkekyo | Opera |
| 21:50.59 | Kaelten | ulic: when you browse pages it should be isntant though |
| 21:51.07 | NightHawkTheSane | yeesh, use a real browser :P |
| 21:51.07 | Kaelten | Pkekyo: look for a javascript error and tell me what it says |
| 21:51.12 | ulic | oh, that's nice, didn't try |
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| 21:51.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: that using ajax or similar? |
| 21:51.33 | deltron | :( I miss the old one already |
| 21:51.36 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: what error? |
| 21:51.38 | Industrial | Kaelten: I like that its javascript, saves data I bet |
| 21:52.01 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: http://ace.pastey.net/73790 <--- only error I can find anywhere |
| 21:52.01 | Kaelten | NightHawkTheSane: not quite. |
| 21:52.03 | Industrial | NightHawkTheSane: no just js, no requests going in and out |
| 21:52.05 | deltron | alphabetical would be a lot better than numbered pages at least :/ |
| 21:52.12 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting |
| 21:52.23 | Kaelten | Pkekyo: no not there, as in Opera throwing a javascript error |
| 21:52.34 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: and where would I find that? |
| 21:52.42 | Kaelten | Pkekyo: not sure, I don't use java :( |
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| 21:52.46 | Kaelten | er opera |
| 21:52.59 | deltron | doesn't work in links either :( |
| 21:53.02 | ulic | in Firefox it's called the Error Console |
| 21:53.30 | Pkekyo | errors tend to come as popup frames centered on the screen...not getting any now though |
| 21:53.41 | Kaelten | links? |
| 21:53.45 | Kaelten | I'm spost to support links? |
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| 21:54.21 | deltron | :P |
| 21:54.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: well, ideally, you actually should. ;) |
| 21:54.43 | Industrial | deltron: no, links is supposed to support 2007 |
| 21:55.03 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:55.04 | deltron | I can click in it and everything in my ssh session hehe |
| 21:55.09 | deltron | and use mousewheel |
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| 21:55.18 | Kaelten | does links not support js? |
| 21:55.23 | [dRaCo] | Kaelten: here's a pastey of the opera error: http://ace.pastey.net/73791 |
| 21:55.53 | ag`_ | [Ammo]: what DKP system do you use in BOON Control? |
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| 21:57.58 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: http://pastebin.org/2322 |
| 21:58.16 | deltron | Kaelten: http://elinks.or.cz/features.html aye it does |
| 21:58.24 | Antiar1 | http://inorpo-b.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/9e/9e9c1eaaa22099d83c1b2bf5f4ca5bdce6fd5079.jpg |
| 21:58.30 | [Ammo] | ag`_: a custom system |
| 21:58.33 | Antiar1 | There are not enough ellipsis in the world. |
| 21:59.12 | ag`_ | [Ammo]: oh damn. I'm currently looking into what dkp systems would be good to use, and it seems like ndkp is out of date |
| 21:59.29 | Kaelten | Pkekyo: ok I think I figured it out, its a stupid bug though |
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| 21:59.33 | Kaelten | rerunning and it should fix * |
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| 21:59.43 | Kaelten | brb |
| 22:01.29 | yssaril | wow the new file system is prcise last update of my addon was 999 milliseconds ago |
| 22:02.24 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 22:03.17 | ag`_ | any opinions on dkp systems? Not to fond of eqdkp |
| 22:05.05 | deltron | I used to admin eqdkp, what a pain |
| 22:05.21 | deltron | one of the tables had like 20K+ entries |
| 22:05.24 | Antiar1 | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1774718/ - this may be the most evil thing ever. |
| 22:05.43 | ag`_ | hmm |
| 22:06.19 | ag`_ | somebody should have some good suggestions about dkp systems in a development community :P |
| 22:06.35 | Antiar1 | We use a very simple system :P |
| 22:06.49 | Antiar1 | 1 point for attendance, 1 for on time, 1 for boss kills, loot is done by whisper auction |
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| 22:07.39 | deltron | zero sum dkp |
| 22:07.50 | deltron | I'm doing suicide kings in my guild right now |
| 22:07.51 | JoshBorke | Antiar1: by whisper auction you mean everyone who wants the item sends a single tell with how much dkp it is worth to them and then whoever has the highest wins? |
| 22:08.05 | Antiar1 | JoshBorke: You can send as many tells as you want, and the high bid is announce in raid |
| 22:08.09 | deltron | loot council is what I really want heh |
| 22:08.27 | Antiar1 | Bidding closes after 35 sec of no bids, high bidder takes it, high tie bids result in a /roll |
| 22:08.53 | aestil | Loot council in my guild. So far working very well overall up to Vashj in SSC. |
| 22:09.11 | JoshBorke | are there ever any problems with people accusing the receiver of tells being untruthful? |
| 22:09.16 | aestil | random 'errors' and lapses in judgment hurt it more than most other loot systems though. |
| 22:09.20 | deltron | I don't like how people take stuff not really suited for their class :( |
| 22:09.52 | Antiar1 | JoshBorke: No, a) because the bidders know and can verify their bids, and b) I'm generally the loot master and c) we use a mod to announce the high bids and announce the winners :P |
| 22:10.17 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 22:10.25 | JoshBorke | you ever update healcap? |
| 22:10.35 | Antiarc | Nah |
| 22:10.45 | Antiarc | We don't have healing problems anymore so I don't have the incentive to >_> |
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| 22:11.18 | JoshBorke | time to watch the bleach movie |
| 22:11.23 | aestil | sadly, the new WAU doesn't have the html changelog. I loved that. |
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| 22:11.50 | Gnarfoz | [2007/09/13 00:11:31-1237-x1]: AceComm-2.0-48655 (Ace2):1922: attempt to index local 'prefix' (a nil value) |
| 22:11.53 | Gnarfoz | huh o_O |
| 22:11.57 | Gnarfoz | totally out of the blue |
| 22:12.03 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:12.07 | aestil | hola |
| 22:12.09 | Antiarc | Probably due to yesterday's changes |
| 22:12.13 | ckknight | I'll check it out, Gnarfoz |
| 22:12.27 | fixt | Is there something wrong with recount past few days? cause after i redid my UI and installed latest recount |
| 22:12.30 | fixt | it refuses to work, at all |
| 22:12.37 | aestil | i still fail at getting grid + eepanels 2 panel resizing script to work. I basically gave up. |
| 22:12.42 | fixt | readyspells seems completely borked aswell |
| 22:13.27 | Gnarfoz | thanks, ckknight :) my guess would be something to do with suspended Ace2 addons? I've got Recount, XRS & Omen, all on standby currently |
| 22:13.56 | ckknight | it actually has to do with addons sending comm over a non-addon stream |
| 22:14.12 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 22:14.16 | ckknight | something like that |
| 22:14.17 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:14.23 | ckknight | wait, yea, I was right |
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| 22:14.28 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r48765 10!AlarLib/Libs/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: !AlarLib Fixed db loading. Now it works as intended also when embedded |
| 22:14.39 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:14.40 | ckknight | CIA is slow |
| 22:14.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48767 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - fix 1922: attempt to index local 'prefix' (a nil value) |
| 22:14.41 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r48766 10AlarTTFrame/ (AlarTTFrame.lua AlarTTFrame.toc AlarTTFrame.xml): AlarTTFrame Removed some leftover debugs, fixed issues in embedded library |
| 22:14.47 | ckknight | there we go |
| 22:14.51 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: there you are :-) |
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| 22:17.27 | ZealotOnAStick | zero-sum is a nice theory but a myth in practice. |
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| 22:19.02 | ckknight | that was supposed to be /msg, not /me |
| 22:19.06 | orionshock | .... urg.. irc is annoying sometimes |
| 22:19.07 | ckknight | whoopsie-doodle |
| 22:19.37 | zeeg | oh ya |
| 22:19.40 | JoshBorke | ckknight: i see you put in code to AceComm for 2.2 stuff |
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| 22:19.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:19.57 | JoshBorke | ckknight: where are the changes in the UI relating to AceComm? |
| 22:19.58 | zeeg | http://my.cursebeta.com/ckknight/ -- what do you think ckknight? |
| 22:20.35 | ckknight | JoshBorke: it's actually not related to the patch, it's just a few optimizations that will enable themselves on patch day |
| 22:20.45 | JoshBorke | ah, ok |
| 22:20.45 | ckknight | e.g. tables-as-sets |
| 22:20.58 | ckknight | since people upgrade on patch day, it shouldn't be a big issue |
| 22:21.07 | ckknight | and most people don't send sets anyway (well, I do) |
| 22:21.32 | NeoTron | oh woops that was supposed to be a /msg |
| 22:21.37 | Wobin_ | wow ck |
| 22:21.40 | kaiden | are there any atropine'esque mods available through svn |
| 22:21.41 | ckknight | lol, NeoTron |
| 22:21.44 | ckknight | Wobin_: what? |
| 22:21.46 | Wobin_ | That's such an accurate photo =) |
| 22:21.52 | ckknight | photo? |
| 22:21.54 | Wobin_ | I like how you've done your hair =) |
| 22:21.57 | Wobin_ | http://my.cursebeta.com/ckknight/ |
| 22:22.03 | ckknight | lol |
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| 22:23.29 | ckknight | zeeg: I need more friends |
| 22:24.03 | zeeg | :P |
| 22:24.12 | Pkekyo | anyone here good with mirrorreflex cameras? |
| 22:24.18 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: lol evil prank :D |
| 22:24.30 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: prank? |
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| 22:27.14 | aestil | i asked this on the forums, but got no help, is there a mod that does something like what JIM's Abacus for minimap does/ |
| 22:27.37 | ckknight | what does that thingy do? |
| 22:27.38 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: from earlier: <Antiar1> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1774718/ - this may be the most evil thing ever. |
| 22:27.45 | Pkekyo | christ, my mailbox is getting bombarded with +favourite notices on DeviantART, and for some reason, I can't delete them /cry |
| 22:28.11 | aestil | it allows you to drag your minimap icons around you minimap |
| 22:28.27 | aestil | in my case, allows the icons to rotate around a 'square' minimap. |
| 22:28.45 | aestil | and also has options for 'auto' spreading them out, so they don't clump. which i don't actually use. |
| 22:28.58 | orionshock | aestil: if an addon doesn't allow you to do that naturally .. there is something wrong with it.. :D |
| 22:29.22 | aestil | my icons like... forget every time and reset to the same stupid spot. i only have 2. |
| 22:29.27 | aestil | mail and SWS. |
| 22:29.36 | aestil | and then obviously like arena or BG oro whatever. |
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| 22:29.42 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r48768 10Talented/encode.lua: Talented: bugfix so that the target template is correctly validated. |
| 22:29.49 | aestil | but those 2 stupid icons always are humping each other. I hate it. |
| 22:30.12 | Wobin_ | poor icons |
| 22:30.18 | Wobin_ | put down by aestil |
| 22:30.28 | Wobin_ | They will never have their love understood =( |
| 22:30.33 | aestil | orionshock: in the past, icons would only rotate around in a 'circle' even though squeenix is square. |
| 22:30.54 | aestil | very true. I will persectue their love. I will eventually make them kill each other in a romeo/juliet way. |
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| 22:31.04 | orionshock | well there are other reasons for not using sws... |
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| 22:31.36 | aestil | i can't find a suitable replacement. |
| 22:31.47 | orionshock | ,,, O.O |
| 22:31.50 | fixt | http://surl.se/picture/20079/100678.jpg what font is that? And also: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/nightfallii/WoWScrnShot_090507_014630.jpg http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/nightfallii/WoWScrnShot_082607_005553.jpg how is that gradient/border on omen/chatwindows done ? |
| 22:31.52 | orionshock | damage meeters |
| 22:32.06 | aestil | can i timeline segment? |
| 22:32.12 | aestil | only thing i need is timeline |
| 22:32.17 | aestil | i want it in recount actualy. |
| 22:32.27 | orionshock | time line segment |
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| 22:32.45 | orionshock | IE , give it a range and pull out the stats for it? |
| 22:32.49 | aestil | anyways, sws is usesless to me anyways. I am 1 of 3 who user loggerhead and we just wws after raid. |
| 22:33.00 | aestil | you say /sws reset Vashj 1 |
| 22:33.11 | aestil | and then bam, meter is reset, and its a segment, next time i reset i'll say |
| 22:33.35 | aestil | lag? disconnected? |
| 22:33.35 | orionshock | um... yes you can do that but when it resets it dosn't keep data between sessions |
| 22:33.44 | aestil | sws does. |
| 22:33.47 | aestil | you can merge segments. |
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| 22:34.00 | aestil | you can look at a serious of attempts on a boss. |
| 22:34.03 | orionshock | ... but there is a different way of doing the same thing |
| 22:34.05 | aestil | you can merge trash out at the end of a raid. |
| 22:34.26 | orionshock | it's a single bucket memory register |
| 22:34.29 | aestil | you can merge failed attempts out. |
| 22:34.40 | aestil | OH NOES YOU TALK THE MOD. i don't know anything about mods. |
| 22:34.45 | aestil | lots of talking about buckets recently. |
| 22:34.49 | aestil | i use buckets when i wash my car. |
| 22:34.57 | orionshock | hehe |
| 22:35.11 | fixt | http://pastebin.com/m7f02340e did AceComm break recount ? |
| 22:35.36 | orionshock | if it did thank god |
| 22:35.41 | Gnarfoz | aestil: apart from purging out single sets of fights (i.e. trash), Recount can do all that |
| 22:35.51 | Gnarfoz | but if you use WWS anyway, why bother >_> |
| 22:35.57 | aestil | exactly :) |
| 22:36.04 | ckknight | fixt: not the recent commit |
| 22:36.05 | aestil | they make me reset meter's for sws. |
| 22:36.11 | Kaelten | Pkekyo: is it working now? |
| 22:36.20 | Gnarfoz | uninstall it and tell them: can't haven't got SWS :p |
| 22:36.27 | Antiarc | Assessment for the win. |
| 22:36.27 | fixt | i ran update on WAU2 1 min after you commited, hmm |
| 22:36.35 | fixt | and yes ckknight it was broken before commit |
| 22:36.39 | fixt | i hoped commit remedied it |
| 22:36.41 | ckknight | woo, not my fault |
| 22:36.45 | ckknight | no, that's totally Recount's fault |
| 22:36.47 | Gnarfoz | fixt: so? files.* only gets updated every 20minutes |
| 22:36.48 | fixt | cause recount hasnt been working at all |
| 22:36.57 | JoshBorke | fixt: since when? |
| 22:37.01 | aestil | is assement the one that only works for peopel who are running it? |
| 22:37.07 | aestil | it doesn't parse the cobat log? |
| 22:37.18 | fixt | JoshBorke it's been screwed for past 3 days since i updated atleast |
| 22:37.19 | kaiden | so did otravi just disappear into the wind? |
| 22:37.20 | Gnarfoz | dunno, I can't get anything out of Assessment :< |
| 22:37.27 | ckknight | kaiden: he's haste |
| 22:37.29 | orionshock | aestil: it does but it dosn't synch |
| 22:37.30 | Gnarfoz | kaiden: *points to haste* |
| 22:37.45 | kaiden | yes.. but i mean as far as development goes |
| 22:37.51 | kaiden | fuxsake.net no longer works |
| 22:37.53 | Gnarfoz | such meters are worthless without syncing, imho :> |
| 22:37.55 | kaiden | and his googlecode stash is empty |
| 22:37.56 | kaiden | :P |
| 22:37.56 | aestil | honestly. i don't care about meter's. in game they are almost completlye useless when compared to the beast that is WSS> |
| 22:37.57 | orionshock | assessment is a really god mod but it's tbh wy to much information |
| 22:38.09 | alcohol | wss, wws, sws |
| 22:38.10 | alcohol | wtf |
| 22:38.18 | alcohol | stick to one acronym at a time kthxplz |
| 22:38.27 | aestil | eh. i failed at typing now. |
| 22:38.28 | orionshock | if your adjusting things based of assessment .. you got other issues.. |
| 22:38.35 | aestil | we don't. |
| 22:38.56 | aestil | we have issues. its that we raid for 11.5 hours a week, and learning vashj is difficult with 3 - 4.5 hours on her |
| 22:39.05 | aestil | *shrugs* |
| 22:39.16 | orionshock | sersiously damagemeeters has a detailed "mode" that you can turn on and it's about as detailed as you want to get; you want to pull just the boss fight -- swap with the mem register and reset |
| 22:39.34 | aestil | i would gladly ditch any in game dmgmeter. i fidn them pretty useless now. |
| 22:39.36 | orionshock | then merge back in |
| 22:40.06 | orionshock | i call them shit's n' giggles meters |
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| 22:40.09 | aestil | this is one thing i can't change. |
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| 22:40.29 | aestil | i had to almsot physically asualt the guild leaders for ktm -> omen |
| 22:40.34 | charon | aestil: i find that Recount offers something along the lines of "in-game wws" |
| 22:40.44 | aestil | I have to pick my battles. |
| 22:40.44 | Gnarfoz | recount is <3 |
| 22:40.45 | charon | you may want to try it |
| 22:40.49 | aestil | charon: i agree. |
| 22:40.57 | aestil | it doesn't timeline segment the way I need it to. |
| 22:40.58 | charon | especially the death details. stellar. |
| 22:41.02 | aestil | also, it seems... |
| 22:41.06 | Gnarfoz | it segments by fights |
| 22:41.09 | aestil | very memory intensive. |
| 22:41.15 | Gnarfoz | huh?> |
| 22:41.22 | Gnarfoz | of course it is, it logs combat data for 25 people |
| 22:41.25 | aestil | and you can timeline and look back like... 2 hours ago at the hydross kill? |
| 22:41.40 | Gnarfoz | if you set the limit high enough, I'd guess you could |
| 22:41.51 | Gnarfoz | (why would you want to do that, anyway?) |
| 22:41.53 | aestil | i never saw that function when I used it. |
| 22:42.01 | Gnarfoz | which one |
| 22:42.03 | aestil | for the same reason you look at wws later. |
| 22:42.06 | aestil | timeline |
| 22:42.19 | Gnarfoz | click on the page of paper in the title bar of the recount window |
| 22:42.28 | aestil | its immaterial. the whole issue is that my sws icon is molesting my mail icon, and i want it to stop. |
| 22:42.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 22:42.39 | Gnarfoz | how about you MOVE IT? |
| 22:42.39 | Gnarfoz | :p |
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| 22:42.54 | Gnarfoz | the sws icon can do that by itself ;) |
| 22:42.57 | aestil | they are knocking boots again everytime you /rl |
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| 22:43.07 | aestil | i have no idea why. |
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| 22:43.17 | Gnarfoz | check out the .toc if perhaps it's trying to save that value per character |
| 22:43.22 | Gnarfoz | but doesn't reference the character SVs |
| 22:43.34 | Gnarfoz | could be possible, I dunno. always worked for me, back in the day |
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| 22:44.54 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 22:45.02 | Gnarfoz | but again, it's not the point |
| 22:45.08 | mjc | growl 1.1 improves performance a lot... |
| 22:45.10 | Gnarfoz | his minimap button doesn't wanna stay put :) |
| 22:45.49 | Pkekyo | any DeviantART members here? |
| 22:46.02 | alcohol | mjc: mac ? |
| 22:46.07 | mjc | yeah |
| 22:46.13 | alcohol | wut? a new growl ? |
| 22:46.24 | alcohol | I have 0.7.6 |
| 22:46.26 | alcohol | lawl |
| 22:47.46 | orionshock | who plays alliance here? |
| 22:47.55 | alcohol | anyone aged < 14 |
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| 22:48.14 | aestil | I do. |
| 22:48.19 | orionshock | i hate you |
| 22:48.21 | aestil | I also twink. /flex |
| 22:48.26 | orionshock | ' |
| 22:48.35 | orionshock | what is with alliance in AV? |
| 22:48.40 | Antiarc | I play Alliance |
| 22:48.44 | aestil | terrain imabalances |
| 22:48.50 | Diao | !ar 625 |
| 22:48.50 | ThraeBot | Diao: Arena rating from 625 points is, 2v2: 1899, 3v3: 1815, 5v5: 1701 |
| 22:48.51 | aestil | it used to be rediculous. |
| 22:49.09 | Antiarc | Man, I remember AV when there were mines on the way into the Frostwolf base. |
| 22:49.12 | orionshock | Antiarc: if your the same person you also play on the same realm as one of my coworkers... |
| 22:49.19 | Antiarc | orionshock: Which is that? |
| 22:49.27 | orionshock | Cenerian Circle |
| 22:49.29 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 22:49.31 | Antiarc | Where do you work? |
| 22:49.38 | orionshock | :D |
| 22:49.42 | aestil | AV used to be, alliance can't get past the choke point which makes you dismount with insta respawn mobs that rape you. |
| 22:49.58 | aestil | i'm pretty sure I never won an AV game prior to them changing the NPC respawn rate and power. |
| 22:50.02 | Antiarc | Symantec? |
| 22:50.05 | orionshock | no |
| 22:50.16 | orionshock | but my coworker don't like you :P |
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| 22:50.21 | Antiarc | Hehe, okay then :P |
| 22:50.25 | Antiarc | Not sure why, but okay then :) |
| 22:50.25 | kaiden | hrm, ckknight, when did you add combat fading to PitBull? |
| 22:51.04 | JoshBorke | kaiden: i wrote that module a long time ago |
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| 22:51.25 | kaiden | weird.. it's never worked for me up until i upgraded to the Rock version of PitBull |
| 22:51.25 | kaiden | hehe |
| 22:51.32 | JoshBorke | heh, weird |
| 22:51.41 | aestil | combat fading works, but it conflicts painfully with range check |
| 22:51.47 | aestil | they should have been mutually exlcusive. |
| 22:51.49 | Corgan | hrmm, how does one go about upgrading to the rock version |
| 22:51.59 | aestil | have SVN account and software? |
| 22:52.01 | orionshock | Corgan: carefuly |
| 22:52.03 | Corgan | yes :D |
| 22:52.14 | Corgan | wait, account |
| 22:52.17 | Corgan | no |
| 22:52.20 | aestil | maybe not account. |
| 22:52.21 | orionshock | svn software yes, account no |
| 22:52.22 | JoshBorke | it's in branches |
| 22:52.41 | aestil | i waits for trunk. i'm only... kinda interesting in destroying my UI right now. |
| 22:52.42 | orionshock | is trac dead for good? |
| 22:52.57 | JoshBorke | orionshock: yes |
| 22:53.30 | JoshBorke | orionshock: how did you use it? |
| 22:53.32 | charon | Antiarc: btw, i've requested write access... instead of asking about patches, i shall ask about permission to write directly. muhahaha. |
| 22:53.41 | Antiarc | Excellent :D |
| 22:53.43 | aestil | what is trac? |
| 22:53.52 | Diao | tracks changes |
| 22:53.53 | orionshock | it compiled zips for the branch addons :D |
| 22:54.02 | aestil | i shouldn't have asked. |
| 22:54.06 | aestil | ./hides |
| 22:54.16 | JoshBorke | ah |
| 22:54.20 | JoshBorke | no, that feature is gone |
| 22:54.43 | orionshock | it was to answer ppl like Corgan "how do i get a branch version of ....?" |
| 22:55.23 | aestil | ah. |
| 22:55.50 | aestil | i suppose alot of shit would hit the fan if rock and its currently supported mods went to trunk? |
| 22:56.01 | aestil | they aren't / it isn't ready yet? |
| 22:56.03 | orionshock | hehe.. sorta |
| 22:56.17 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8379.new#new |
| 22:56.21 | orionshock | cow tips is currently disfunctional for me.. but parrot is just fine |
| 22:56.29 | Industrial | ITT: help, GO! |
| 22:57.19 | aestil | orionshock: I'm mostly interested in Pitbull. Also, does cowtip have the ability to filter and display a specific buff to the tooltip onmouseover a unit/unitframe? |
| 22:57.30 | Diao | cowtip doesn't show any buffs afaik |
| 22:57.31 | aestil | thats just a general cowtip question. |
| 22:57.37 | aestil | outside the scope? |
| 22:57.45 | orionshock | ya .... what Diao said |
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| 22:58.07 | charon | aestil: dogtag can check for auras and do stuff depending on that |
| 22:58.26 | charon | i have a dogtag in my cowtips that will put "Mark" in red if the mouseunder is Hunter's Mark'ed |
| 22:58.26 | Industrial | so like that's why we shouldn't tell ckknight |
| 22:58.30 | Industrial | OH SHI- |
| 22:58.34 | ckknight_ | hey all, back |
| 22:58.42 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:58.50 | Industrial | ^^ hai |
| 22:58.55 | aestil | didn't tiny tip have the ability to show debuffs? |
| 22:59.00 | aestil | or buffs? |
| 22:59.05 | Diao | most tooltip addons did |
| 22:59.07 | alcohol | sleepietime <3 |
| 22:59.16 | alcohol | sleepietime <3 |
| 22:59.24 | aestil | dogtag is powerful, and at the same time... impossible to use for an end user. |
| 22:59.24 | alcohol | eh, crap :< |
| 22:59.33 | ckknight | lol, aestil |
| 22:59.50 | aestil | there should really be an addition to shared media with lots of 'premade' dog tags for pitbull and cowtip. |
| 22:59.52 | Diao | i didn't have trouble doing it o_o |
| 22:59.56 | aestil | or there should be a front end. |
| 23:00.06 | Diao | just followed the wiki |
| 23:00.07 | charon | aestil: then again for cowtip "simple" tags will do fine and pitbull has good presets to choose from |
| 23:00.16 | charon | plus, what diao said |
| 23:00.23 | aestil | i'll spend hours aligning stuff to the pixel, but i can't handle reading that. there always seem to be tags i didn't find, that other peopel just know about. |
| 23:00.57 | Diao | isn't it all listed in the wiki |
| 23:01.10 | orionshock | ck.. help... cow finaly tip'ed over and i can't get it back :| |
| 23:01.19 | aestil | thats why there was /wrists when i started trying to mess with dogtag. |
| 23:01.24 | aestil | barrier to entry is very very high. |
| 23:01.30 | Diao | lol |
| 23:02.00 | aestil | i consider myself somewhat savy when it comes to mods, and ui stuff. my friends that basically 'take' my mod pack and customize it, would break down in tears over dogtag. |
| 23:02.00 | ckknight | orionshock: ...? |
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| 23:10.54 | charon | giev svn account... g'night guys |
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| 23:18.11 | aestil | does firefox have a built in IRC module like opera? |
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| 23:20.24 | kaiden | ckknight, btw, PitBull\libs\LibParser-4.0\LibParser-4.0.lua:3641: attempt to index local 'Parser' (a nil value) |
| 23:21.39 | ckknight | aestil: Chatzilla |
| 23:22.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48769 10LibParser-4.0/LibParser-4.0.lua: LibParser-4.0 - make sure to return right away if lib already exists. |
| 23:22.24 | ckknight | kaiden: fixed |
| 23:22.35 | kaiden | ;) |
| 23:23.26 | aestil | wtf, what is using parser 4? |
| 23:23.31 | aestil | i thought i was using parser 3? |
| 23:23.53 | kaiden | the new rock based addons are |
| 23:25.59 | ckknight | note: LibParser-4.0 provides a compatibility layer for Parser-3.0, so you only need 4.0 to have things work properly |
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| 23:27.16 | ftt|waffle | is anyone familiar with n2quest log? |
| 23:27.20 | ftt|waffle | err |
| 23:27.21 | ftt|waffle | nquestlog |
| 23:28.35 | aestil | I use nquestlog |
| 23:28.42 | orionshock | ckknight: is there a /dump command i can use to check the cow tip "lines" module? |
| 23:28.57 | ftt|waffle | when you are doing a quest - and your minion is all minimised(no quests showing or objectives - just the zones) |
| 23:29.09 | ckknight | orionshock: probably. |
| 23:29.11 | ftt|waffle | and you pick up a quest item - will it show the quest you are working on(the quest you just picked up an item for) |
| 23:29.23 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.56 | aestil | waffle: i dunno about that. if the minion is showing, but the quests and objectives are hidden, i'm not sure they will 'unhide' |
| 23:30.04 | ftt|waffle | hrmm - alright |
| 23:30.05 | orionshock | well.. Cannot find module "Lines". |
| 23:30.07 | ftt|waffle | i was hoping it would |
| 23:30.15 | ftt|waffle | cuz when i have a zone with 13 different quests |
| 23:30.19 | ftt|waffle | it takes up my whole screen |
| 23:30.27 | ftt|waffle | if it's showing the quets for the zone |
| 23:31.29 | aestil | i think if you 'shift click' on the zone, it shows you a list of the hidden quests and you can select to see one indiviudally. |
| 23:31.44 | aestil | you can get the quest name for the item/mob you killed from the tooltip i think. |
| 23:31.55 | aestil | nquestlog puts quest information in the tooltip right? |
| 23:32.23 | ckknight | orionshock: might be Text |
| 23:32.27 | orionshock | ya |
| 23:32.29 | orionshock | same error |
| 23:32.38 | ckknight | it's Text |
| 23:32.40 | ftt|waffle | tooltip? |
| 23:32.42 | ftt|waffle | what do you mean |
| 23:32.46 | aestil | when yo |
| 23:32.50 | ftt|waffle | it will pop up in the middle of the screen when i loot something |
| 23:32.57 | ftt|waffle | will say quest name - and #/needed |
| 23:33.17 | aestil | heh, typing failures, when you mouse over an item, or a mob you killed, you should see information regarding the quest its for [if its for a quest] in the tooltip. |
| 23:33.46 | aestil | so then you shift click [i think its shift click] on the zone, in the minion, and unhide that particularly quest if you want to see the quest and objectives. |
| 23:34.04 | Gnarfoz | . |
| 23:34.10 | ftt|waffle | ah - well i can right click on the zone name - and select quests to show individually - just kinda wish it could be automated |
| 23:34.19 | aestil | *nods* |
| 23:34.35 | aestil | quest fu might interest you. |
| 23:34.45 | ftt|waffle | what does that do? |
| 23:35.01 | Paradox_ | anyone use GotWood? |
| 23:35.02 | aestil | i think, but can't remember, but i think that it will hide the minion completely if you want it to, and auto show if you complete an objective. |
| 23:35.38 | Kaydeethree | for those of you not in #wowi-lounge: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602361123&sid=1 |
| 23:35.38 | aestil | neither questfu or nquestlog really work with lighthead as well as i'd like. still looking at the actual quest log for cords info is better, due to the linking. |
| 23:35.39 | ftt|waffle | fu = fubar addon right? |
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| 23:36.29 | aestil | it is a fubar module, yes. |
| 23:36.57 | Antiarc | Kaydeethree: That seems....really lame |
| 23:37.08 | Antiarc | Especially considering how far the patch has been pushed back already due to VOIP |
| 23:37.28 | Kaydeethree | meh, more of the fact that the vista audio system as a whole sucks and fmodex sucks too |
| 23:37.32 | Antiarc | Also, VIOP is going to be beyond hilarious on an RP server |
| 23:37.41 | Kaydeethree | voip's just a symptom of the underlying problems |
| 23:37.51 | ftt|waffle | it will work in conjunction with nquestlog/ |
| 23:37.56 | Antiarc | Well, yeah, but the feature is responsible for the delay |
| 23:38.17 | aestil | is this blizzards attempt to provide functionality for customers? or are they somehow interested in getting more money out of us? I really expect them to increase the price now. |
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| 23:39.44 | aestil | oh, and hey, question. what does 2.4's changes to the combat log mean for parser libs, and mods like assement/omen/recount/parrot etc...? |
| 23:39.54 | ckknight | probably be faster |
| 23:39.56 | ckknight | that's about it. |
| 23:40.26 | Kaydeethree | accuracy++? |
| 23:40.29 | aestil | doesn't parserlib basically turn the verbose combat log into events that addons can relate to? |
| 23:40.41 | Antiarc | Those mods will likely be more efficient and more powerful. |
| 23:40.42 | ckknight | yes |
| 23:41.32 | aestil | i know omen / threat will increase in accuracy by actually being able to differentiate clone NPC's, or i read that anyways. |
| 23:41.40 | Antiarc | That's the hope |
| 23:41.58 | aestil | did you guys just lol at blizzard saying they were gonna do a threat mod built into the game? |
| 23:42.06 | Antiarc | Part of me wonders if Kenco is waiting for 2.4 and is gonna do a multi-target KTM, because he's basically just stopped development on KTM itself |
| 23:42.14 | Antiarc | Nah, that makes me happy |
| 23:42.26 | aestil | i have a feature request for you btw. |
| 23:42.39 | aestil | i want to change the font size and color of the pullout threat bar. |
| 23:42.42 | Antiarc | It's a) an official point of reference, and b) an unofficial condoning of threat mods |
| 23:42.50 | Antiarc | You should be able to...I think |
| 23:42.52 | Antiarc | If not, I'll add it |
| 23:43.18 | aestil | i should just be able to right click on the bar and change stuff, never been able to, so unless it was changed recently, and I haven't check, you couldn't before. |
| 23:44.05 | aestil | i asked for something from sanity a long time ago, but i don't really know whats going on with sanity, and i'm a little overwhelmed in general by those mods. |
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| 23:45.25 | aestil | the part of sanity that I want, and would like to have access to is the searchable inventory feature for bank/mail and alts. |
| 23:45.31 | aestil | but i dont' need the bags. |
| 23:46.43 | sb | Kaydeethree: wtb EU version ;p |
| 23:47.13 | Kaydeethree | yell at your version of the CMs... is en:general bitching about how we got it first yet? |
| 23:47.56 | aestil | EU version of what? |
| 23:48.09 | Kaydeethree | <Kaydeethree> for those of you not in #wowi-lounge: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602361123&sid=1 |
| 23:48.11 | sb | voice chat "how will get it first" list |
| 23:48.14 | sb | who |
| 23:48.14 | sb | :/ |
| 23:48.30 | Antiarc | aestil: Just get Sanity then, not SanityBags |
| 23:48.58 | aestil | sanity + Arkinventory will work? |
| 23:49.02 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 23:49.05 | Kaelten | categories added to files.wowace.com |
| 23:49.08 | Kaelten | Antiarc: ! |
| 23:49.11 | Kaelten | there you are! |
| 23:49.13 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.14 | Antiarc | Here I is |
| 23:49.15 | sb | but then, i dont care about voice chat :/ |
| 23:49.16 | orionshock | aestil: Community Managers .. ie:: Blue Text |
| 23:49.16 | Antiarc | What's up? |
| 23:49.16 | Kaelten | your script is still broke |
| 23:49.19 | Antiarc | Which? |
| 23:49.29 | Kaelten | the one that parses logs |
| 23:49.32 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 23:49.33 | Antiarc | What's it doing? |
| 23:49.35 | aestil | oshock: i know what CM means. :D |
| 23:50.22 | Kaelten | last time I ran it it was still doing the whole beginning of time frame was at epoch |
| 23:50.43 | Antiarc | Bleh, okay. Has to be a date parsing to nil or something |
| 23:50.50 | Antiarc | Can you send me a log that causes it? |
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| 23:57.16 | Kaelten | er, not really :( |
| 23:57.28 | Antiarc | hrm. |
| 23:57.30 | Kaelten | I don't know which one, but I know the last time I tried to run it it did it but that was a month ago or more |
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