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| 00:01.36 | cchome | damn is violation broken?? |
| 00:02.47 | Gnarfoz | damn could you elaborate? |
| 00:05.12 | Olison | damn! |
| 00:05.22 | Corgan | damn |
| 00:05.49 | Antiarc | Kaelten: Hahahahah |
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| 00:07.30 | Morgh | lol Kaelten xD |
| 00:07.38 | Morgh | That's so wrong :P |
| 00:09.39 | NeoTron | cool hello kitty!!! |
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| 00:12.06 | Gngsk | hello kitty island adventure is the pinnacle of adventure gaming |
| 00:12.53 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: wtb drama meter on ace forums. that way i can sort by amount of drama in thread to find the juicy ones |
| 00:13.23 | Kaelten | ~throws a planetoid at JoshBorke |
| 00:14.14 | JoshBorke | you missed! nyah |
| 00:14.33 | Kaelten | damn |
| 00:14.38 | FrostByghte | man, Aloft kicks ASS |
| 00:14.51 | Kaelten | ~throws Aloft at JoshBroke |
| 00:15.00 | FrostByghte | serious, some of the best damn addons at wowace |
| 00:15.04 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.14 | FrostByghte | now wowequip |
| 00:15.15 | Kaelten | lol |
| 00:15.23 | FrostByghte | cowtip, pitbull, grid...sheeze |
| 00:15.40 | FrostByghte | I'm running 120m of crap now lol |
| 00:16.05 | orionshock | wow... i only run 40ish |
| 00:16.26 | FrostByghte | it runs around 80 to 110 most of the time |
| 00:16.39 | FrostByghte | auctioneer is the big one, I don't have a specific auctioneer character |
| 00:16.43 | NeoTron | these wasabi green peas really clear up your sinuses |
| 00:16.50 | NeoTron | and they make my eyes tear |
| 00:16.53 | orionshock | maybe you should consider reducing the # of addons you have? |
| 00:16.59 | clad|book | auctioneer isn't loaded until you load it, or open the auction house |
| 00:17.05 | clad|book | the full database, i mean |
| 00:17.14 | NeoTron | well depends on how you configure it |
| 00:17.21 | clad|book | indeed |
| 00:17.31 | clad|book | unless you configure it to load all the time, which seems silly |
| 00:17.33 | NeoTron | but I find that I want the auctioneer data in tooltips :P |
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| 00:17.37 | orionshock | ? isn't the DB loaded up in the SV file? |
| 00:17.40 | FrostByghte | I keep it loaded because I like to see the prices, and I have 2gigs of memory and usually 60fps so all is well, I'm just an addon junky or something |
| 00:18.01 | FrostByghte | I read about aloft and just spent 2 or 3 hours just messing around with it |
| 00:18.23 | Sole | hi guys |
| 00:18.25 | FrostByghte | then dumped tinytip or tipbuddy for cowtip |
| 00:18.28 | Morgh | Hoi Sole |
| 00:19.08 | Morgh | CowTip faster to set up than before, or still a 3 hour marathon? =P |
| 00:19.22 | orionshock | out of box worked rather well for me |
| 00:19.25 | orionshock | still does |
| 00:19.30 | FrostByghte | it took me a bit, but I usually like to look everything over |
| 00:19.34 | Gngsk | Morgh, go to the forum thread and get a good setup |
| 00:20.21 | cchome | FrostByghte: do u use Recount? or any dpsmeters? |
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| 00:20.47 | FrostByghte | yes, but I keep recount usually suspended |
| 00:20.54 | Morgh | Remember I tested it out some, and found it nice enough, but the ease of TinyTip back then trumped it. Atleast after losing my settings for the n'th time :P |
| 00:21.09 | cchome | recount is a damn whore on fps/memory/cpu lol |
| 00:21.16 | FrostByghte | yes it goes nuts |
| 00:21.51 | cchome | trying to limit my mods i've got 2gigsof memory and 2.2ghz and i'm only at 10-15fps during raids |
| 00:22.37 | Thrae | cchome: And all your settings are already down to the lowest they can go under video settings? |
| 00:22.40 | Morgh | If you're prepared to do some /rl's, you can easily do a /ace disable X list macro, with /rl at the end. I think. Pretty sure I did that a while back :P |
| 00:23.31 | cchome | yah everything is down low |
| 00:23.38 | cchome | dont understand it lol |
| 00:24.06 | kebinusan | I like this timer bar for this forte warlock mod |
| 00:24.08 | Morgh | And if you disable all your addons it operates smoothly? :) |
| 00:24.27 | cchome | hmm let me try that morgh lol |
| 00:25.14 | Morgh | cchome: If fps is a problem in raids, you can macro the disabling of all addons you don't need, and then do a /rl ( /console reloadui ) |
| 00:25.30 | cchome | looks like its not my mods lol |
| 00:25.34 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.36 | cchome | it does save about 10fps |
| 00:25.46 | cchome | im at 20fps now instead of 10fps-15 in raid |
| 00:25.50 | Morgh | Or you can use acp :P |
| 00:26.20 | orionshock | cchome: do u have music or any thing running in the background? |
| 00:26.32 | Morgh | cchome: Oh, and one thing that help WoW quite well: Defrag your harddrive :) |
| 00:26.37 | Morgh | *helps |
| 00:28.26 | Morgh | I'm too lazy for CowTip I think :P |
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| 00:29.16 | Morgh | Not that I mind, TinyTip still rocks :) |
| 00:29.36 | Morgh | Didn't Thrae start working on a new version of it? :o |
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| 00:30.30 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 00:31.39 | Morgh | You know how that's working along? |
| 00:31.46 | JoshBorke | it works fine for me |
| 00:31.52 | JoshBorke | doesn't have the features the old one did |
| 00:31.55 | JoshBorke | but i don't care about that |
| 00:32.34 | Morgh | What's missing? |
| 00:32.48 | JoshBorke | i don't know :_D i just know that there are |
| 00:32.53 | JoshBorke | Thrae: pingaling |
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| 00:34.07 | Morgh | TinyTip still remains as one of the better and simpler options for a tooltip addon, so new or improved version sounds nice :) |
| 00:34.43 | JoshBorke | it's not really improved except in code size i believe |
| 00:35.30 | Morgh | That's odd. I thought TinyTip was rather minimal already. Personal challenge then? =) |
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| 00:35.50 | JoshBorke | morgh: more like optimizations |
| 00:40.07 | orionshock | question: the skettis to BEM flight point .. the flight master does he always have 2 conversation options or is that a glitch? |
| 00:40.08 | xyu` | Can someone help me w/ a shadowpriest shadow leveling spec? ^_^ |
| 00:40.19 | Kaelten | Tipster was fun |
| 00:40.20 | xyu` | that 2nd shadow is kind of reduntant :P |
| 00:41.09 | clad|book | whoa |
| 00:41.13 | clad|book | there's a flight path between the two? |
| 00:41.26 | orionshock | lol |
| 00:41.28 | clad|book | how long have i been doing these without knowing this, lol |
| 00:41.50 | orionshock | honored + iirc |
| 00:42.01 | clad|book | yeah i'm 75% revered :P |
| 00:42.02 | CIA-22 | 03rophy 07Alpha * r48591 10Ace3/tests/ (AceTimer-3.0.lua wow_api.lua): |
| 00:42.02 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - tests |
| 00:42.02 | CIA-22 | - WoWAPI_FireUpdate() calls GetTime() so OnUpdate works in controlled time. |
| 00:42.02 | CIA-22 | - Removed AceTimer-3.0 test since there has a working one in AceTimer-3.0. |
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| 00:43.20 | Morgh | xyu`: What do you need to know? =) |
| 00:43.59 | Antiarc | Who owns Recount? |
| 00:44.15 | Antiarc | Cryect, isn't it? |
| 00:45.17 | Morgh | Yes |
| 00:45.20 | cchome | Morgh: thanks yah i've got no music in background |
| 00:45.24 | orionshock | ugh... revered => Exalted == suck |
| 00:45.27 | cchome | and yah after defraging it helped alot |
| 00:45.39 | cchome | looks like sws stats takes same amount as recount |
| 00:45.56 | Morgh | Recount's a totally different ballpark afaik |
| 00:46.08 | Morgh | And if you want to know what happened in the fight, use WWS |
| 00:46.30 | Morgh | + |
| 00:46.33 | Morgh | Eeek |
| 00:46.58 | Antiarc | My issue with Recount is all the net traffic it sends |
| 00:47.12 | Morgh | Hampering Omen? |
| 00:47.17 | Antiarc | Though I finally got all my raiders to turn of DoTimer's comms |
| 00:47.26 | Antiarc | Recount doesn't, no |
| 00:47.35 | Antiarc | But it's just spammy and isn't conducive to raid health |
| 00:47.37 | orionshock | tbh... i turned on some of the extra options in damage meters -Al ... and it showed me all i needed to know |
| 00:47.38 | Antiarc | No good reason for it |
| 00:47.46 | Antiarc | Assessment is my meter of choice. |
| 00:47.58 | cchome | i like violation |
| 00:48.02 | Morgh | They're practically the same? |
| 00:48.07 | cchome | assessment uses alot of memory too lol |
| 00:48.22 | Morgh | Violation is a "light" meter though, not for analytical use ;) |
| 00:48.23 | Antiarc | Memory is less of a concern to me than CPU and net traffic |
| 00:48.33 | Antiarc | And it's click-down UI is awesome |
| 00:48.35 | xyu` | Morgh: how is this spec for a leveling priest. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVZZEMgtMtRhtEo |
| 00:48.36 | Antiarc | I love love love it |
| 00:48.45 | xyu` | Morgh: is there anything you'd change? |
| 00:48.58 | xyu` | mostly solo grinding quests, but some instances here and there. |
| 00:50.24 | cchome | hows assessment compared with sws ? |
| 00:50.27 | Morgh | Unless you're at the bare start of specs the wand-spec isn't really all that useful. You want to avoid using wand as much as possible. |
| 00:50.34 | Morgh | @ xyu` |
| 00:51.16 | Morgh | By the time you're level 20 ( and have Mind Flay ) you will preferably not be using wands :) |
| 00:51.23 | xyu` | i usually use it to finish mobs off so i can get the spirit tap working as the mob dies. |
| 00:51.32 | xyu` | i'm level 62 atm. |
| 00:51.38 | Morgh | Aaaah. |
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| 00:53.48 | Morgh | Blackout's a flavour-talent when leveling though, and I tend to take Imp PW:S, and Martyrdom/Imp Fort instead because it's a tad more reliable. |
| 00:54.10 | Ken- | Mmm. Just started using Parrot, it = pwn. |
| 00:55.12 | Morgh | xyu`: Also, I detest being silenced, feared or stunned, so I go for the unbreakable will instead of wand. |
| 00:55.24 | xyu` | i tend not to use PW:S because of the mana cost, i usually use rank 1 fear. |
| 00:56.20 | Morgh | That's a very good idea actually. Something I haven't thought about. Fear's very unreliable though |
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| 00:57.37 | orionshock | ive found that the more you use fear the more reliable it gets :D |
| 00:57.39 | xyu` | yeah, it gets me into trouble once in a while ^_^ |
| 00:58.07 | Morgh | xyu`: A friend of mine leveled with this spec - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bx0GzhZZxMgtMtRhtto - and he really liked it. |
| 00:59.12 | Morgh | Not sure how smart inner Focus is, but I suppose the "lol free crit"-thing every 3 mins has it's uses :P |
| 00:59.49 | Morgh | I'm pretty sure it can compete with a point in Misery for solo-leveling |
| 01:02.30 | Morgh | orionshock: I suppose that's more of knowing -when- to use it through painful experience rather than the mechanics of the spell ;P |
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| 01:03.07 | Sole | Morgh: my priest is lvl 27 and I use wands to take mobs from 40%-0 |
| 01:03.51 | Sole | Morgh: it works for me at that level at least. That way I can keep grinding without stopping. Using spells for all the damage is too mana intensive |
| 01:04.36 | Morgh | Sole: Depends on the dps of the wand I think. If you have awesome instance-wands, sure, but if not it's more effective to sit down and drink |
| 01:05.40 | Sole | Morgh: good point. How did your friend pick his talents? All shadow first? |
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| 01:06.35 | Morgh | Sole: Good question, I'm not sure. I would assume Mind Flay would be the first thing to go for. It's your bread and butter spell in Shadow :) |
| 01:07.25 | Morgh | The big whoop of the Discipline talents is Meditation that allows 15% mana regen while casting. Might not seem like much, but over time it has a huge impact. |
| 01:09.27 | Sole | yeah that one looks nice |
| 01:09.29 | Morgh | ( Spirit will have some sort of buff, to increase it's usefulness since people actively avoid it now, in a coming patch I think ) |
| 01:09.51 | Thrae | Morgh: What's odd about TinyTip? |
| 01:09.59 | Sinaloit | whats wrong with this snipped: http://ace.pastey.net/73694 I get attempt to call a table value error |
| 01:10.14 | Sinaloit | can't I iterate though a table of strings with for k,v? |
| 01:10.52 | Sole | I <3 TinyTip but the guy who wrote it is a weirdo |
| 01:10.54 | Morgh | Thrae: Don't think I said anything was odd about it, have I? :o |
| 01:10.59 | Gagorian | Sinaloit: You're missing pairs |
| 01:11.04 | Morgh | What Sole said! |
| 01:11.14 | Thrae | I'm a weirdo? |
| 01:11.20 | Gagorian | Sinaloit: for k,v in pairs( table) do |
| 01:11.35 | Morgh | I have no idea, but chopping up his quote sounded bad :P |
| 01:11.38 | Thrae | Morgh: 20:47 #wowace: < Morgh> That's odd. I thought TinyTip was rather minimal already. Personal challenge then? =) |
| 01:11.38 | Diao | people avoid spirit? |
| 01:11.39 | Diao | o_O |
| 01:12.01 | Thrae | Diao: Enough that Blizzard is -still- trying to figure out how to make it as viable as other stats |
| 01:12.16 | art3mis | that reminds me i neeed to leech tinytip and new eep2 |
| 01:12.21 | Morgh | Diao: To a large extent, yes. Pots, mp5, totems, and so on are much preferred. |
| 01:12.23 | Diao | i stack spirit on priest/druid in pve |
| 01:12.24 | Diao | lol |
| 01:12.50 | Thrae | If you have Divine Spirit then yeah, go for it |
| 01:12.53 | art3mis | they could make spirit viable by one simple addition |
| 01:13.08 | art3mis | regen during combat ata fraction of total spirit ;P |
| 01:13.22 | art3mis | then EVERY caster would be a true spirit whore ;P |
| 01:13.31 | Sole | fuck that |
| 01:13.41 | Sole | just do this |
| 01:13.41 | Thrae | art3mis: You CAN regenerate mana during combat -- ever hear of the "5 second rule"? |
| 01:13.49 | Morgh | Thrae: Oh, haha. I didn't mean that TinyTip was odd. I found it odd that you would find any optimizations ( as Josh put it ) when it was already pretty awesome :) |
| 01:13.53 | Sole | spirit = Levitate(spirit*1) |
| 01:13.54 | art3mis | thrae: i meant a constant thing because of yer spirit ;P |
| 01:14.11 | Sole | everybody will wanna levitate so they'll stack spirit...more spirit you have the higher you levitate |
| 01:14.24 | art3mis | laugh |
| 01:14.33 | Thrae | Morgh: The old version up on Wowace SVN was using the old way of accessing tooltips, and also it was one of my earlier coding projects so had a lot of really bad code in it. |
| 01:14.41 | NeoTron | the higher your spirit, the more like a warlock you become |
| 01:15.07 | FrostByghte | has anyone actually tried the AFK feature in AV on the test realm? |
| 01:15.27 | orionshock | ya |
| 01:15.30 | ckknight | hey all |
| 01:15.31 | FrostByghte | lot of miss information on the forums and I was trying to find out what changes are going through |
| 01:15.31 | Thrae | Morgh: For one, it uses Ace solely because of problems I had w/ addons like MobInfo2, MonkeyQuest, etc. Thankfully these addons themselves got fixed, so now it uses no framework on my SVN |
| 01:15.33 | sb | mhhh |
| 01:15.34 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 01:15.42 | sb | free file (video) hoster for ~300mb? :o |
| 01:15.43 | Clashen | bad i'm losing dota |
| 01:15.50 | sb | rapidshare is ~100 :/ |
| 01:15.57 | FrostByghte | orionshock: can just hitting a wolf or ram remove the flag? |
| 01:15.59 | Sole | FrostByghte: what AFK feature? |
| 01:16.02 | Thrae | sb: savefile, megaupload, etc. |
| 01:16.11 | FrostByghte | Sole: the ability to report people being AFK in AV |
| 01:16.19 | Sole | oh shit |
| 01:16.20 | orionshock | haven't done that much testing - but that question alone .... worries me |
| 01:16.24 | ckknight | yes, FrostByghte |
| 01:16.35 | Sole | good bye my bot good bye :( |
| 01:16.46 | FrostByghte | so all you have to do is hit a wolf and the debuff is gone? |
| 01:16.54 | ckknight | yep |
| 01:16.56 | ckknight | enter combat |
| 01:17.02 | Thrae | Sole: To report people who are AFK, all you need do is type in /AFK REPORT <name of afk'r> |
| 01:17.10 | Thrae | Try it out yourself! |
| 01:17.14 | Sole | Thrae: and whats blizz gonna do? autoban those people? |
| 01:17.20 | FrostByghte | did they change the spawn point out of the cave at all? |
| 01:17.29 | Sole | Im 100% sure people will /afk report people just to spite people |
| 01:17.37 | FrostByghte | Sole, they put a bebuff on you and you cannot gain honor or marks until it is removed |
| 01:17.52 | Thrae | Sole: You're not getting the joke that typing /afk <anything> turns on your AFK flag |
| 01:17.59 | Morgh | As for spirit I keep playing with the thought of seeing them add health-regen for non-healers, and some sort of defense where you simply take a tiny bit less damage from all sources of damage. |
| 01:18.00 | FrostByghte | actually, I don't see how 20+ people hitting wolves will work out too well anyway |
| 01:18.04 | FrostByghte | so it still might function well enough |
| 01:18.08 | Sole | FrostByghte: ok easy |
| 01:18.33 | Sole | Thrae: lol dunno how I missed that |
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| 01:18.48 | Sole | Morgh: spirit shield amirite? |
| 01:19.43 | orionshock | most ppl that are coherent enough to waltz out of the cave to tag a wolf don't compare to the ones that are mindlessly standing there |
| 01:20.06 | Morgh | Sole: Not sure if I understand ( I blame the hour ) :P |
| 01:20.13 | FrostByghte | well if they are out of the cave, the alliance will probably swing by that way and take advantage of the situation somewhat |
| 01:20.20 | Kaydeethree | new PTR build. current build: 7229. diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/ |
| 01:20.23 | Morgh | Thrae: That sounds really. Cool. How's the new one coming along then? =) |
| 01:20.28 | FrostByghte | one round we had the alliance take the cave |
| 01:20.34 | Morgh | *really cool |
| 01:20.48 | orionshock | "/run local n,hK,f,c,dD,hD;for i=1,80 do n,_,hK,_,_,f,_,_,c,_,dD,hD=GetBattlefieldScore(i);if f==1 then t=(hK+dD+hD);if t<1 then ReportPlayerIsPVPAFK(n) end end end " |
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| 01:22.03 | FrostByghte | it's getting bad, most av rounds have 50% of the horde team in the cave now on whirlwind |
| 01:22.12 | orionshock | same here |
| 01:22.24 | FrostByghte | we can't even make it past IW bunker now |
| 01:22.28 | Morgh | Who wins AV now depends on who has the least AFK'ers xD |
| 01:22.33 | FrostByghte | yep :( |
| 01:22.52 | orionshock | Morgh: lol |
| 01:22.58 | orionshock | you don't win av |
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| 01:23.12 | Morgh | You don't lose? =P |
| 01:23.13 | orionshock | alliance simply go in and kill till they're done |
| 01:23.17 | orionshock | no winning involved |
| 01:23.56 | FrostByghte | I miss the level 60 ranks, I fought there for several months and eventually leveled out in AV |
| 01:23.57 | Morgh | Last AV was won by horde. We didn't mind, since we spent 20 minutes happily farming those who were AFK for honor |
| 01:24.02 | orionshock | winning implies that there is something to fight or defeat ... there is neither in av |
| 01:24.02 | FrostByghte | it's totally different from level 70 AV |
| 01:24.19 | Morgh | orionshock: Then we simply try not to lose ;D |
| 01:25.02 | Morgh | Think we had 28 people AFK. The horde had 15 or so. We stood in the cave just AoE'ing the snot out of them :D |
| 01:25.17 | Kaydeethree | farming the cave-defenders <3 |
| 01:25.23 | Thrae | Sole: http://www.wowbash.com/image-292.html <-- "**AFKick: A kick vote has been started against Captindoper. Please type /AFK Y or /AFK N to vote.** |
| 01:25.33 | Morgh | "Oh, hey, you again!" *bam* "Oh, hey, you again!" *bam* "Oh, hey, you again!" *bam* "Oh, hey, you again!" *bam* |
| 01:25.37 | Morgh | <3 |
| 01:25.53 | FrostByghte | I see a number of posts that say you have to hit a hostile NPC or player to remove the buff |
| 01:26.27 | Sole | Thrae: rofl |
| 01:26.52 | Thrae | G POKER ON TV IS SO EXCITING |
| 01:26.57 | Morgh | There's gonna be so many pissed off people when they write /afk only through habit |
| 01:27.02 | FrostByghte | also they mention that people will not spawn in the caves unless there is no GY avail |
| 01:27.03 | Thrae | Whoops |
| 01:27.09 | Thrae | http://www.wowbash.com/image-542.html <-- this is perfect |
| 01:27.17 | FrostByghte | Thrae: I enjoy poker on TV :) |
| 01:27.33 | FrostByghte | makes me want to play online, but I stopped after that bill passed last year |
| 01:27.55 | Ken- | you can still play, just not for money, AFAIK |
| 01:27.58 | Morgh | Thrae: Brilliant! |
| 01:28.07 | FrostByghte | you can still play for money, it's just very risky :) |
| 01:28.44 | Ken- | I know a guy who was #2 on partypoker for over a year before the ban on internet gambling |
| 01:28.48 | Morgh | FrostByghte: People kept popping in the caves the other day when we farmed their ass-tards :o |
| 01:28.49 | Ken- | he's pissed |
| 01:29.13 | FrostByghte | Ken-: ouch...ya partypoker was one of the first ones to lockout US players |
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| 01:30.00 | Sinaloit | Gagorian: thanks |
| 01:31.34 | Morgh | I wouldn't mind an AV sized BG where you basically played assault :D |
| 01:31.59 | FrostByghte | I wish the NPC's in AV were more powerful or made more of a difference |
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| 01:32.10 | FrostByghte | they don't seem very effective at all |
| 01:32.12 | kenlyric | FrostByghte: you do? |
| 01:32.13 | [_Trimble_] | oops lolz |
| 01:32.18 | kenlyric | you like 10 hour AV? |
| 01:32.29 | Morgh | FrostByghte: No... trust me... they -sucked- when they were more powerful |
| 01:32.35 | FrostByghte | I dunno, I just started to really play in January so I missed all that |
| 01:32.48 | Gngsk | 10 hour kargath AV ftw |
| 01:33.01 | FrostByghte | mainly I mean the quest stuff, like the wolfriders |
| 01:33.02 | Morgh | 10 hours is nothing! *flex* |
| 01:33.13 | kenlyric | 10 hours is an average, of course. |
| 01:33.14 | FrostByghte | those guys fall over like they are nothing |
| 01:33.17 | Megalon | hooray 4 back in the days |
| 01:33.18 | kenlyric | on AV weekend |
| 01:33.26 | FrostByghte | I don't want a 10 hour AV, but I wouldn't mind a good 1 to 2 hour game |
| 01:33.27 | Megalon | when you joined an AV |
| 01:33.28 | kenlyric | the rest of the time, it was one AV for the 4 weeks between. |
| 01:33.31 | Sole | my server had a 24 hour AV one time |
| 01:33.32 | Megalon | an the timer was at 14hours |
| 01:33.32 | Megalon | :P |
| 01:33.37 | Morgh | I joined an AV that was 10 hours, left at 16, came back to play AV, and it said 30 hours |
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| 01:33.56 | FrostByghte | lol |
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| 01:34.07 | Morgh | I only played for 30 minutes in that one after that, but that's nothing compared to the world record, which I can't remember now :P |
| 01:34.11 | kenlyric | I think I got tokens, once. |
| 01:34.26 | FrostByghte | that would be too much, but I mean when you actually get the wolf riders going they just fall over and are useless...the wing commanders are probably the best |
| 01:34.33 | FrostByghte | even Lok sorta blows if you know how to kite him |
| 01:34.59 | Kaydeethree | meh. kiting him doesn't really do much good since he doesn't mess with npcs and vice-versa |
| 01:35.10 | Kaydeethree | the wolf riders are good if you ride with them and keep them up and healed |
| 01:35.12 | Morgh | The final bosses do. Atleast did. |
| 01:35.16 | FrostByghte | most good allies pull him into their cave |
| 01:35.37 | FrostByghte | I've only seen him 1 time in level 70 AV |
| 01:35.49 | FrostByghte | in level 60 it's like every 3 games someone wants to bring out lok :) |
| 01:35.51 | FrostByghte | bit annoying |
| 01:35.53 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm WAU doesn't like using the browse button on Vista64 |
| 01:36.00 | orionshock | i wish they'd fix the terrain in AV... |
| 01:36.07 | orionshock | it might help the mentality behind afk farming |
| 01:36.08 | Morgh | Same. He died within 5 minutes of starting to move against the enemy base :P |
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| 01:36.28 | FrostByghte | ya, I just think the quest NPC's should be more worthlwhile |
| 01:36.38 | yssaril | anyone know how to make grid display MT's? |
| 01:36.50 | FrostByghte | the wing commanders are great, but you really need more than 1 up to be really effective |
| 01:37.06 | Morgh | FrostByghte: They were nerfed heavily because they were an awful implementation in the game :P |
| 01:37.06 | Kaydeethree | last I heard Grid couldn't... I just use PitBull to display MTs/MAs |
| 01:37.47 | yssaril | kay thats what i do but grid has the 25man layouot wiht MT's |
| 01:38.43 | Morgh | Anyways, off to bed now.Good night folks :) |
| 01:39.10 | FrostByghte | night |
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| 01:43.30 | kenlyric | grid has the 25 man layout with warriors pulled out. Not quite the same as MT. |
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| 01:46.56 | mikma | http://www.wowbash.com/image-501.html |
| 01:48.23 | Mecdemort | wow nothing like getting exalted in a hard instance and getting a useless reward |
| 01:48.44 | etip | what instance ? |
| 01:48.50 | Mecdemort | BT |
| 01:52.02 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r48592 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: add zhTW translate |
| 01:57.40 | kenlyric | completely useless, or useless in comparison to something else you got? |
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| 02:06.39 | Megalon | Mecdemort: warrior trinket? |
| 02:06.46 | Mecdemort | mage :x |
| 02:07.03 | orionshock | well Final Fantasy online did at least do this right... (IIRC) |
| 02:07.05 | orionshock | http://www.wowbash.com/image-506.html |
| 02:07.47 | Megalon | hm :c |
| 02:07.51 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 02:08.59 | Parnic | my prat shows no modules loaded all of a sudden...anyone seen that lately? |
| 02:09.03 | orionshock | Final Fantasy online iirc had an ingame translator |
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| 02:12.33 | Parnic | nvm; reinstalling prat fixed it |
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| 02:22.36 | Neebler | BasicChatMods! |
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| 02:40.57 | Wobwork | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1394-Zero-Punctuation-BioShock |
| 02:41.30 | kebinusan | Wob yeah I posted that in here yesterday I think, great review |
| 02:42.03 | Wobwork | ZP is a great reviewer |
| 02:42.42 | Wobwork | much classier than most videoblog style reviewers |
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| 02:43.14 | kebinusan | could someone touch Omen someplace special so it updates to the newest threatlib since it seems to be a bit behind |
| 02:43.54 | kebinusan | yeah I agree wob, they made me laugh |
| 02:44.08 | kebinusan | and as a big SS2 fan I mostly agree with it |
| 02:44.31 | Wobwork | It's nice to see a review that actually is not just OMGBSrulez =) |
| 02:44.52 | Wobwork | we can always rely on him to give a more cynical view of games =) |
| 02:45.20 | Kemayo | Somewhat randomly -- would someone mind telling me if they can access http://blackboard.valleycollege.edu/ ? |
| 02:45.35 | Wobwork | Updated Notice (07/10/07): There is a known Blackboard incompatibility issue with Internet Explorer 7. To remedy this problem, Blackboard will be upgraded to version 7.1 over the Winter break. In the meantime, please use another browser such as Firefox, Netscape or Opera. For additional information or support, please contact the Central Help Desk at (877) 241-1756. |
| 02:45.45 | Kemayo | Nuts. |
| 02:45.47 | Wobwork | (If that helps =P) |
| 02:46.05 | Wobwork | Naturally, you probably can't see that message on ie7 =P |
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| 02:49.00 | kenlyric | Players can now explore Middle-earth from a different - and sometimes unexpected - viewpoint as a chicken |
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| 02:49.27 | kenlyric | everything I read about this epic adventure makes me want to play. |
| 02:49.30 | Kemayo | Wobwork: Well, it helps. Doesn't help me to access it, but helps me know that it might just be me who can't reach the site. |
| 02:49.51 | kenlyric | or, go dig up tolkien and fuck his eye socket. Whichever makes me feel like less of an ass. |
| 02:50.21 | Wobwork | *squicksquicksquicksquicksquick* |
| 02:50.34 | kenlyric | but, lol |
| 02:50.44 | kenlyric | they're introducing player housing in the next patch. |
| 02:50.56 | Wobwork | lotro? |
| 02:51.00 | kenlyric | yes. |
| 02:51.11 | kenlyric | not wow. |
| 02:51.13 | Wobwork | I hear their 'hunters' are horribly flawed =) |
| 02:51.16 | kenlyric | they don't seem to understand how. |
| 02:51.26 | kenlyric | their hunters are completely OP in the solo game. |
| 02:51.32 | kenlyric | *aren't |
| 02:51.49 | Wobwork | from what I've heard, all shots have a cast time |
| 02:51.55 | Wobwork | and you can't move while shooting |
| 02:51.57 | kenlyric | I dunno, I played during beta for about two hours and then went and cried in my library. |
| 02:51.57 | Wobwork | so you can't kite |
| 02:52.18 | Wobwork | and since you don't have any pets to tank... |
| 02:52.27 | kenlyric | and, their healers are fucking minstrels. |
| 02:52.31 | kenlyric | that's a stab right to the gut. |
| 02:52.38 | Wobwork | well they don't have 'magic' per se |
| 02:52.59 | kenlyric | playing a blood elf named prettiest is fun as a lark, but I don't want to be gay all the time in a game. |
| 02:53.14 | Wobwork | It gets tiring? |
| 02:53.20 | kenlyric | minstrels should be fed to the horses, nothing more. |
| 02:53.27 | Wobwork | just remap all your emotes to /flirt |
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| 02:53.58 | kenlyric | i have it macrod on my BE |
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| 02:58.42 | kenlyric | --Join the official LOTRO Myspace group!-- |
| 02:58.45 | kenlyric | well, that seals it. |
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| 03:01.58 | ckknight | how does one check if you can cast a spell? |
| 03:02.50 | ulic | not sure, but bartender3 fades my buttons when I can't do my rogue finishers. |
| 03:03.26 | JoshBorke | ~wiki transcendental numbers |
| 03:05.20 | Ken- | ck: I <3 your addons. |
| 03:05.25 | Ken- | back to botanica. |
| 03:05.33 | ckknight | thanks for the support |
| 03:05.57 | Ken- | just started using parrot today |
| 03:06.01 | Ken- | beats SCT hands down IMO |
| 03:06.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48593 10Parrot/Parrot/Data/Cooldowns.lua: Parrot_Data/Cooldowns - check IsSpellUsable for Spell Ready secondary trigger. |
| 03:07.34 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 03:09.17 | sb | hmmmm equip (items) works with lua/wow api - trinket use doesnt, right? (protected?) |
| 03:09.30 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:09.34 | ckknight | you know what I just realized |
| 03:09.41 | ulic | no idea |
| 03:10.04 | JoshBorke | the sky isn't really blue |
| 03:10.08 | ckknight | with Rock, I can make it so a core (Cartographer for example) uses Rock and modules use Ace2 |
| 03:10.24 | JoshBorke | nifty |
| 03:10.26 | ckknight | and mix and match as one pleases |
| 03:10.37 | JoshBorke | that'll make conversions easier |
| 03:10.41 | ckknight | e.g. use "AceEvent-2.0" and "LibRockConfig-1.0" |
| 03:10.50 | ckknight | yea, that's what I'm thinking |
| 03:11.09 | ckknight | also means I don't have to update everyone's 3rd-party modules for Cartographer |
| 03:11.16 | JoshBorke | are you going to rewrite FuBar for Rock? |
| 03:11.47 | ckknight | yep |
| 03:11.52 | ckknight | that's the current plan, at least |
| 03:12.06 | ckknight | I plan to support Ace2-based plugins, though |
| 03:12.09 | ckknight | so don't worry about that |
| 03:12.10 | JoshBorke | do you plan on rewriting it from the current pile of crap that it is? ;-) |
| 03:12.19 | ckknight | I do plan on revamping it a bit |
| 03:12.25 | JoshBorke | cool |
| 03:12.26 | ckknight | specifically FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 03:12.30 | JoshBorke | awesome |
| 03:16.02 | ckknight | my general idea is to fix everything already in place with minimal breakage |
| 03:16.02 | JoshBorke | oh geebus 9 out of 10. blah |
| 03:23.55 | JoshBorke | that's alwasy a good idea |
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| 03:28.27 | Guest402 | Rawr? |
| 03:28.37 | Astrylian` | Rawr. |
| 03:29.04 | Astrylian` | Question... Has anyone seen any problems with grid causing client crashes, on Mac systems? |
| 03:30.50 | NeoTron | is there an adodn that keeps track if your sent mail history (time, recipient, gold/items sent) |
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| 03:54.40 | kebinusan | bleh vashj 7% |
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| 03:56.53 | kebinusan | I hate that wench |
| 03:57.55 | Xinhuan | wtb t5 gloves so i can get 4 pc bonus! |
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| 03:59.28 | Speeddymon | i have a fubar plugin written up for stancesets, but I am having trouble with the events.. |
| 04:00.37 | Speeddymon | I want it to show the current stance, and I can get it to do that when you change stances, but when you first load the game, or do a /rl, it shows "StanceSetsFu" instead of "StanceSetsFu: Default" |
| 04:01.21 | Xinhuan | change the text in the OnEnabled() function |
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| 04:01.48 | Speeddymon | I've tried variables_loaded, onenable, oninitialize, player_entering_world, and others and it either doesn't show it or spits out an lua error, depending on how it is done.... |
| 04:02.11 | Xinhuan | function StanceSetsFu:OnEnabled() is called whenever you /rl or first load |
| 04:02.20 | Xinhuan | what is the issue with using that? |
| 04:02.59 | Speeddymon | when i do that, it just shows the "StanceSetsFu" without the stance at the end |
| 04:03.17 | Xinhuan | did you use the proper code to get the correct stance to show? |
| 04:03.22 | Xinhuan | self:SetText(whatever) |
| 04:03.24 | Speeddymon | yes |
| 04:03.44 | Xinhuan | can you verify if OnEnabled() is even called? |
| 04:03.49 | Speeddymon | 1 sec |
| 04:04.06 | Xinhuan | like print something |
| 04:04.29 | Speeddymon | trying now |
| 04:05.39 | Speeddymon | should it be OnEnable() or OnEnabled() ? |
| 04:06.08 | Speeddymon | either way it didnt print what i said to print in onenable.. |
| 04:06.12 | Xinhuan | :OnEnable() |
| 04:06.51 | Xinhuan | so you're saying OnEnable() is never called at all? |
| 04:06.53 | Speeddymon | ya did that and its not printing either, so onenable isnt being called.... :-/ |
| 04:07.17 | Xinhuan | might want to pastey your code |
| 04:07.21 | Speeddymon | kk |
| 04:07.36 | Fisker- | aha! |
| 04:07.52 | Fisker- | vendor respawn times are independant from the item |
| 04:08.18 | Fisker- | no u |
| 04:08.34 | Xinhuan | PILLOW FIGHT |
| 04:09.42 | Speeddymon | grr i figured out why it wasnt showing the onenable print.. but its still not showing the settext |
| 04:09.47 | Speeddymon | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("StanceSetsFu is loaded") |
| 04:09.49 | Speeddymon | damnit |
| 04:09.58 | Speeddymon | http://ace.pastey.net/73706 |
| 04:10.01 | Speeddymon | there heh |
| 04:10.39 | Xinhuan | StanceSets_GetCurrentForm() <-- is that returning the correct value? |
| 04:10.46 | Speeddymon | yes |
| 04:10.57 | Speeddymon | default if not stealthed and stealth is stealthed |
| 04:11.11 | Speeddymon | it works in the bottom function (player_auras_changed) |
| 04:11.14 | Xinhuan | so you're saying line 28, 29, 31 runs properly and 30 doesn't? |
| 04:11.34 | Speeddymon | yes, and 30 is identical to 40 |
| 04:11.41 | Speeddymon | but 40 works fine |
| 04:11.46 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Your "Pillow Fight" is in stark contrast to #lightninghoof on MMORIC, where they are comparing who's done the weirdest things during, before, or after sex. |
| 04:12.19 | Xinhuan | might need to check if stance data is available during the loading process |
| 04:12.26 | Speeddymon | ah |
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| 04:12.42 | Xinhuan | it might not be present or unavailable until PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD has occured |
| 04:12.51 | Xinhuan | so just register another event for that, and update it |
| 04:13.10 | Speeddymon | but i tried that too.. |
| 04:13.16 | Speeddymon | same results.. oddly enough |
| 04:13.34 | Xinhuan | well StanceSets_GetCurrentForm() is returning you an empty string |
| 04:13.43 | Xinhuan | it seems like an issue with StanceSets and not your addon |
| 04:13.50 | Xinhuan | either that or the data is truely not available at that time |
| 04:14.04 | Xinhuan | or returnning you nil |
| 04:14.29 | Thrae | All server requests should be available at PLAYER_LOGIN, which may or may not occur before your addon is loaded. OnInitialize and OnEnable in some frameworks stand for ADDON_LOADED == youraddon, and PLAYER_LOGIN, respectively. |
| 04:15.02 | Thrae | Note that may not include party requests of course, since that's a double server request |
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| 04:16.30 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure when OnEnable() is called |
| 04:16.31 | Speeddymon | hmm.. the odd thing here is that if I do it in variables loaded, it shows the default name for the plugin. if I do it in certain other events (i think variables_loaded is one) then I get an lua error, which indicates that it is firing when I do that, but the stance data isnt available.... |
| 04:16.35 | Xinhuan | before or after PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 04:16.49 | Speeddymon | err |
| 04:17.11 | Speeddymon | hmm.. the odd thing here is that if I do it in player_entering_world, it shows the default name for the plugin. if I do it in certain other events (i think variables_loaded is one) then I get an lua error, which indicates that it is firing when I do that, but the stance data isnt available.... |
| 04:17.41 | Xinhuan | you do have a :OnTextUpdate() function right? |
| 04:17.49 | Speeddymon | no |
| 04:17.57 | Xinhuan | Fubar calls that function whenever the text of the plugin needs to be updated |
| 04:18.03 | Speeddymon | damn ok |
| 04:18.25 | Xinhuan | your self:SetText() should be inside :OnTextUpdate() |
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| 04:20.20 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r48594 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/History.lua: Prat: Fix the history module. Wasn't working at all. |
| 04:21.22 | Xinhuan | if :OnTextUpdate() doesn't exist, i think fubar uses the name of your addon, not certain on that |
| 04:21.24 | Speeddymon | That would work, except that StanceSets isnt even aware of fubar.. and it doesn't have any icons or anything.. just a slash command that opens the gui.. the only reason the addon even has the function that tells you what stance you are in |
| 04:21.46 | Xinhuan | that doesn't matter does it? |
| 04:22.19 | Xinhuan | many fubar plugins are independant of the addons they are written for |
| 04:22.24 | Speeddymon | hmm.. |
| 04:22.58 | Xinhuan | in the worst scenerio, you would hook one of the functions in stancesets |
| 04:23.06 | Xinhuan | to detect whatever you want |
| 04:23.10 | Speeddymon | yea |
| 04:23.56 | Xinhuan | so is it working now? |
| 04:24.04 | ckknight | I've decided to start a task force |
| 04:24.26 | ckknight | who's with me? |
| 04:24.30 | Xinhuan | ?_? |
| 04:24.37 | Speeddymon | OnTextUpdate worked.. thx |
| 04:24.55 | Fisker- | a task force of eating babies? |
| 04:25.05 | ckknight | no, not quite |
| 04:25.07 | Fisker- | aww |
| 04:25.17 | Xinhuan | FiskerTheBabyEater |
| 04:25.33 | ckknight | they would be pretty tender. |
| 04:26.14 | Xinhuan | you're being cryptic today ckknight |
| 04:26.43 | ckknight | probably not enough carbs from all the baby-eating |
| 04:26.58 | Speeddymon | k ima upload it now, thanks again |
| 04:27.44 | CIA-22 | 03sinaloit * r48595 10NRT_EPGP/ (GuildSettings.lua NRT_EPGP.lua): |
| 04:27.44 | CIA-22 | NRT_EPGP: |
| 04:27.44 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Auto award of EP |
| 04:27.44 | CIA-22 | - Migrated to award raid list at once if current raid: Drycoded |
| 04:27.44 | CIA-22 | - Resolved issues with GuildSettings not determining if boss is a boss or not |
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| 04:30.31 | CIA-22 | 03speeddymon * r48597 10StanceSetsFu/ (. StanceSetsFu.lua StanceSetsFu.toc): |
| 04:30.31 | CIA-22 | StanceSetsFu: |
| 04:30.31 | CIA-22 | - Initial Upload |
| 04:30.31 | CIA-22 | - Adds a FuBar Plugin to open the StanceSets configuration and also shows you which stance set is currently equipped |
| 04:30.42 | ckknight | some jagoff thinks that anything is possible, I tried to tell him wrong since the Halting Problem can't be solved, but he's being a jagoff (as stated previously) and disagrees |
| 04:31.06 | Fisker- | can i be a bitch and say it's jackoff instead? |
| 04:31.17 | Xinhuan | alright, who understands what ckknight just said, raise up your hand :) |
| 04:31.32 | ckknight | Fisker-: no, they're both equally applicable |
| 04:31.36 | Fisker- | bah |
| 04:31.41 | Wobwork | transposing jack for jag... |
| 04:31.44 | Wobwork | *raises his hand* |
| 04:31.54 | Wobwork | so.. what -is- a jagoff? |
| 04:32.02 | Xinhuan | and whats a Halting Problem |
| 04:32.07 | Wobwork | if not a mispronunciation of jackoff |
| 04:32.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: wiki it |
| 04:32.19 | Fisker- | wiki your mother lol |
| 04:33.39 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r48596 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 04:35.03 | ckknight | Wobwork: a deliberate mispronunciation |
| 04:36.03 | cogwheel | ckknight: can you make an option to disable the mouse (not just lock) on the cartographer waypoint arrow? I use my mouse for all my movement and it gets in the way sometimes... |
| 04:36.30 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 04:36.34 | CIA-22 | 03recluse * r48598 10TextSpy/ (TextSpy.toc localization/TextSpyLocale-deDE.lua): |
| 04:36.34 | CIA-22 | TextSpy: localization |
| 04:36.34 | CIA-22 | - Adding deDE localization |
| 04:36.41 | ckknight | mind putting that request on the jira? |
| 04:37.09 | Astrylian` | Question... Has anyone seen any problems with grid causing client crashes, on Mac systems? |
| 04:37.28 | cogwheel | ckknight: "jira"? :( linky? |
| 04:37.38 | Recluse | jira.wowace.com |
| 04:37.43 | ckknight | jira.wowace.com |
| 04:37.45 | cogwheel | ty |
| 04:38.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Astrylian`: nope |
| 04:38.20 | CIA-22 | 03speeddymon * r48599 10StanceSetsFu/ (. StanceSetsFu.toc): |
| 04:38.20 | CIA-22 | StanceSetsFu: |
| 04:38.20 | CIA-22 | - Removed AceLibrary from depends |
| 04:41.10 | Diao | halting problem has to do with turing machines |
| 04:43.52 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r48600 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Stop showing the subgroup when you aren't in a raid. |
| 04:45.39 | ckknight | sure does, Diao |
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| 04:51.17 | RaydenUni | appears that bugmenot is down |
| 04:52.33 | clad|sleep | night all |
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| 05:12.16 | Recluse | people who say "duel wield" make me laugh |
| 05:12.24 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:12.35 | Wobwork | duel weild =P |
| 05:12.57 | Wobwork | oh and Medievil |
| 05:13.05 | Wobwork | that makes me want to stab people |
| 05:13.13 | Recluse | lol |
| 05:18.33 | Toadkiller | my rouge duel weilds all the time |
| 05:18.45 | Recluse | lol |
| 05:19.14 | Toadkiller | yeah i like the lipstick in the main hand & the cheeck powder in the off hand |
| 05:20.24 | Fisker- | OH Hi Wobwork |
| 05:20.28 | Fisker- | is it Midevil? |
| 05:20.29 | Fisker- | :O |
| 05:20.39 | Wobwork | Medieval |
| 05:21.53 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbX1aMajow |
| 05:21.54 | Fisker- | i had lulz |
| 05:22.18 | ckknight | *sigh* arguing about religion on WoW is always weird |
| 05:22.31 | Diao | hmm |
| 05:22.34 | Diao | does anyone actually use vitality on boots |
| 05:22.35 | Diao | ever? |
| 05:22.42 | Recluse | i love the it crowd ^.^ |
| 05:23.15 | Fisker- | i do |
| 05:23.19 | Fisker- | why shouldn't i? |
| 05:23.30 | NightHawkTheSane | boars speed? |
| 05:24.18 | Fisker- | why? |
| 05:24.27 | Wobwork | yow |
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| 05:24.40 | Wobwork | They're like the Chaser... but with canned laughter =P |
| 05:25.10 | art3mis | neat |
| 05:25.23 | Wobwork | Recluse: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3SfNANtig |
| 05:25.27 | art3mis | just found out you can throw level 35+ enchants on items that lvl1's can wear |
| 05:25.44 | art3mis | like goblin rocket boots and some cloth chest piece |
| 05:25.44 | Wobwork | how's that work? |
| 05:25.58 | Wobwork | oh crafted goods |
| 05:25.58 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:25.59 | art3mis | they can only be created by level 35+ |
| 05:26.07 | art3mis | but they're level 0 for all intent and purpsoe |
| 05:27.10 | art3mis | where's kael been these days |
| 05:27.23 | art3mis | ~seen kaelten |
| 05:27.50 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@69.109.103.158> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 47m 31s ago, saying: 'Tipster was fun'. |
| 05:30.04 | ZealotOnAStick | religious arguments in wow? |
| 05:30.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh. |
| 05:30.16 | ZealotOnAStick | I should get into another one of those. |
| 05:30.38 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm now a former ordained priest, then excommunicated, and now an ordained minister again. |
| 05:31.28 | Recluse | art3mis: were you using some kind of fubar pieces or were they full-screen bars on the layout you were making? |
| 05:31.33 | Sole_ | Wobwork: I love the chaser :P |
| 05:31.45 | Wobwork | Sole_: ^^ The Chaser are great |
| 05:32.01 | Wobwork | but fairly much cause they have Tripod |
| 05:32.06 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: I have my crazy beliefs, backed up by a shitload of knowledge about religious texts |
| 05:32.11 | ckknight | arguing with a 14-year-old Christian |
| 05:32.52 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm also agnostic, so it's hard to try to pin me down on something without looking foolish. |
| 05:33.13 | Sole_ | Wobwork: I loved the APEC scenario |
| 05:33.39 | Sole_ | Wobwork: I cant believe there were people stupid enough to take their clothes off for a 'random street inspection' |
| 05:34.58 | art3mis | recluse: partial bars |
| 05:35.22 | art3mis | you can make lots of em and just edge drag em smaller |
| 05:35.30 | art3mis | them drag move all the plugins |
| 05:36.15 | Recluse | art3mis: hrm |
| 05:36.52 | Wobwork | Sole: hehe aye |
| 05:37.08 | Wobwork | Sole: I love the fact they can do these things here, and not get shot |
| 05:37.15 | Wobwork | cause that wouldn't be funny =\ |
| 05:42.41 | Sole | Wobwork: lol |
| 05:43.16 | Sole | Wobwork: APEC episode - "What are those tools for sir?" "Are you serious? *pause* Im a fucking gardener" |
| 05:46.34 | art3mis | anyone have a link to lunarsphere? |
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| 05:48.02 | orionshock | google? |
| 05:48.54 | art3mis | figured id ask first ;P |
| 05:49.58 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r48601 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Clean up some more invite cases, support "send invite to". Also fix situations like "invite him", in these cases we wont create an invite link. |
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| 05:52.25 | orionshock | wondered why i always got spamed "Could not find player "him" " message all the time :P |
| 05:53.27 | ckknight | sylvanaar: also fix "her"? |
| 05:56.33 | sylvanaar | i did her, him, us, them |
| 05:56.46 | Fisker- | :)? |
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| 05:58.13 | Fisker- | i love this vendor |
| 05:59.03 | Fisker- | 18g spent today and aproximately 110g of value :P |
| 05:59.43 | art3mis | which vendor? |
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| 05:59.52 | orionshock | no kidding |
| 06:00.55 | Recluse | lol |
| 06:01.51 | Fisker- | art3mis halaa vendor of course |
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| 06:07.31 | kb1ibt | Yea posring from my iphone with colloquy natively on the phone |
| 06:07.48 | CIA-22 | 03kameril * r48603 10VisualThemes/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 06:07.48 | CIA-22 | VisualThemes: |
| 06:07.48 | CIA-22 | -Fixed an issue where the ChatEditBox would respond to input while it was transitioning out. |
| 06:07.48 | CIA-22 | -Added support for Baggins |
| 06:07.48 | CIA-22 | -Added support for Dewdrop |
| 06:07.49 | CIA-22 | -Changed ScaleFade defaults to be more subtle |
| 06:07.52 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r48602 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Remove the SetItemRef hook. Use Prat:RegisterLinkType. |
| 06:08.33 | kb1ibt | /leave |
| 06:08.43 | ZealotOnAStick | it's /part |
| 06:08.59 | kb1ibt | Thanks |
| 06:09.04 | kb1ibt | /part |
| 06:09.39 | kb1ibt | Nope i think it is missinterperting iphone letters typed |
| 06:11.12 | kb1ibt_ | had to go into the connections screen and tell it to DC from the server |
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| 06:19.27 | ckknight | Tekkub: I replied to your last comment on the Rock + Ace3 thread |
| 06:19.38 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.01 | Tekkub | lawl |
| 06:20.08 | Tekkub | create more drama why don't you |
| 06:20.12 | ckknight | just remember, I did it for the lulz |
| 06:20.23 | Thrae | "Rock + Ace3" |
| 06:20.38 | Tekkub | I'm writing a new framework too |
| 06:20.44 | Tekkub | naming it paper |
| 06:21.06 | Thrae | "Rock + Ace3" thread? Why don't you just go to www.christianity.com and make a "Orthodox Catholicism + Orthodox Prodastant" thread? |
| 06:21.24 | Tekkub | I'm buddhist |
| 06:21.32 | Tekkub | non-practicing mind you :) |
| 06:21.35 | ckknight | pshaw, Greek Orthodox ftw |
| 06:21.44 | Thrae | I'm Buddhist too. I practice the being fat part. |
| 06:21.44 | Fisker- | I'm Anti-Religionist |
| 06:21.49 | Fisker- | atheists are for faggots |
| 06:21.50 | Thrae | Just not the other stuff. |
| 06:21.58 | Fisker- | oh and i just made up that anti whatever thing |
| 06:22.00 | Tekkub | Buddhism, the chubby chaser religion |
| 06:22.10 | ckknight | I don't like fat buddha |
| 06:22.14 | ckknight | I like thin buddha |
| 06:22.15 | Tekkub | I do |
| 06:22.32 | Tekkub | fat furry budda kicks both their asses though |
| 06:22.36 | ckknight | the fat buddha comes from the Mahayanists |
| 06:22.36 | Recluse | i'm agnostic which !=atheist |
| 06:22.59 | Thrae | Recluse: Some forms of aethism and agnoticism can interlock. |
| 06:23.04 | Tekkub | okey okey, I'm really a Joelist |
| 06:23.28 | ckknight | Joelist? |
| 06:23.33 | Recluse | lol |
| 06:23.38 | Fisker- | ~wiki agnostic |
| 06:23.46 | Fisker- | DO IT purl |
| 06:23.47 | Tekkub | we believe whatever the fuck we want |
| 06:24.18 | Tekkub | ~wiki purl sucks big floppy tauren dick |
| 06:24.59 | Fisker- | ~wiki big floppy donkey dick |
| 06:25.06 | Fisker- | ^^ |
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| 06:25.27 | Thrae | Fisker-: "anti-religionist" would be more "antidogma" or "antidogmatic" or "antidogmatism" |
| 06:25.32 | Fisker- | :O |
| 06:25.54 | Tekkub | I like some dogs... |
| 06:26.47 | Thrae | Fisker-: Actually, antireligion is a term, it's just not in the dictionary ;) |
| 06:26.56 | kb1ibt_ | my karma ran over your dogma |
| 06:27.11 | Thrae | And aethism is very different then antireligion -- the two really have nothing to do with each other |
| 06:27.23 | Thrae | You can believe in God and be antireligious |
| 06:28.18 | ZealotOnAStick | "A man's gotta believe in something! I believe I'll have another beer." |
| 06:30.22 | ckknight | Thrae: or you can believe in religion and not in God |
| 06:30.26 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:30.53 | Fisker- | then i'll just be plain ol' boring atheist then |
| 06:31.08 | Tekkub | but you're not allowed to believe in a religion that believes in God if you don't believe in God |
| 06:32.21 | ckknight | what if your religion doesn't have God in it? |
| 06:32.28 | kb1ibt_ | note the capitalization of God versus god |
| 06:32.33 | Tekkub | then you're allowed |
| 06:32.40 | Fisker- | http://i3.tinypic.com/6g0gpiv.jpg <-unbiased Bioshock review btw |
| 06:32.44 | Thrae | Well, if I had to choose between trusting religion and trusting God, I'd definately trust God. |
| 06:32.48 | Tekkub | but you're not allowed if the religion doesn't and you do |
| 06:33.12 | Thrae | Thankfully, I don't have to choose, so I trust neither. |
| 06:33.21 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r48604 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: |
| 06:33.21 | CIA-22 | Prat: Made EmptyDataCache take an option boolean to indicate if this is an |
| 06:33.21 | CIA-22 | automatic flush or a user directed one. It was going to be for disabling |
| 06:33.21 | CIA-22 | agressive cache flushes when active who'ing was enabled, but there is no need |
| 06:33.21 | CIA-22 | really. Removed level > level check so now you can have levels go down for those |
| 06:33.22 | CIA-22 | that needed it. |
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| 06:37.12 | ckknight | alright, I'll cya all later |
| 06:37.22 | Recluse | k |
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| 06:43.43 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8357.new#new |
| 06:43.44 | Industrial | eheh |
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| 06:43.46 | CIA-22 | 03woody * r48605 10Modality/Modality_Bartender3.lua: Modality: Fixing an egregious bug that was breaking the 'unit' override (at the very least). |
| 06:44.27 | sylvanaar | i need to find that _Gwhiz 2.0 proposal, i want to use part of that code actually |
| 06:47.10 | art3mis | laugh |
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| 06:47.57 | art3mis | heya aens |
| 06:50.46 | Aens|Superiority | sup |
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| 06:50.55 | Aens|Superiority | archimonde down :D |
| 06:51.03 | Nickenyfiken_ | Gratz |
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| 06:51.11 | ramoz | what was hardest? bass or trash? |
| 06:51.19 | Aens|Superiority | no trash on archimonde |
| 06:51.22 | Aens|Superiority | just a boss fight |
| 06:51.24 | ramoz | really? |
| 06:51.27 | ramoz | AWESOME |
| 06:51.30 | Aens|Superiority | but |
| 06:51.33 | Aens|Superiority | here's the thing |
| 06:51.33 | ramoz | cause hyjal trash can burn |
| 06:51.47 | Aens|Superiority | yeah, i hate the trash as well, but the bosses are easy as hell |
| 06:51.54 | ramoz | yas |
| 06:52.01 | Aens|Superiority | archimonde is hard though |
| 06:52.31 | art3mis | Aens|Superiority: http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hre.jpg <-- new UI |
| 06:52.31 | ramoz | oneshot rage and azgolar |
| 06:52.34 | ramoz | no |
| 06:52.35 | ramoz | err |
| 06:52.51 | kb1ibt | when you say hard, in comparison to what? |
| 06:52.55 | Aens|Superiority | ooh, nice background graphic |
| 06:52.59 | ramoz | anetheron |
| 06:53.01 | ramoz | is he like |
| 06:53.02 | ramoz | kael? |
| 06:53.15 | Aens|Superiority | kb1ibt: hard compared to the other hyjal bosses and bt bosses |
| 06:53.27 | Aens|Superiority | archimonde is harder than bloodboil imo. |
| 06:53.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Frustratingly random. |
| 06:53.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Much harder than bloodboil. |
| 06:53.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Bloodboil's easy. |
| 06:54.12 | ramoz | not true |
| 06:54.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Achimonde is just aggravatingly random, and one death from one person screwing up can cascade and wipe the raid. |
| 06:54.24 | ramoz | bloodboil is easy if your healers can pay attetntion |
| 06:54.37 | ZealotOnAStick | If they can't you shouldn't be in BT. |
| 06:54.45 | Aens|Superiority | but the thing about the 4 previous hyjal bosses are that they are all setup fights. |
| 06:54.46 | ramoz | wtb healers |
| 06:55.10 | Aens|Superiority | if you didn't have to deal with trash and got time to set up the pulls and etc, those bosses would all be one shottable |
| 06:55.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Personally, I enjoy tanking the frosties more than the actual boss fights on Azgalor and Kaz'rogal. |
| 06:56.12 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r48606 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Color the "Hiding x modules" on the AutoLoD menu item. |
| 06:56.18 | sylvanaar | server is getting behing |
| 06:56.20 | sylvanaar | behind |
| 06:57.08 | Aens|Superiority | art3mis: i dont recognize that eagle image. What is it from? |
| 06:57.34 | Aens|Superiority | oh, and you got dreamchat working? |
| 06:57.49 | Aens|Superiority | that NEVER worked for me despite trying it 20 times |
| 06:58.59 | kb1ibt | i kinda wish my old guild never broke up, I went from the #2 PvE guild on the server to a guild that can't kill gruul |
| 06:59.16 | art3mis | dreamchat? |
| 06:59.20 | art3mis | nah thats minichat |
| 06:59.34 | art3mis | its the SS officer logo done for some EA logo thingy |
| 06:59.49 | art3mis | OR the old roman seal of the legion |
| 06:59.57 | Aens|Superiority | yeah, thats what i'm thinking. |
| 06:59.58 | art3mis | depending on how much history you know ;P |
| 07:00.16 | art3mis | i figured your guild would appreciate it ;P |
| 07:00.33 | Aens|Superiority | hah |
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| 07:01.52 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
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| 07:01.55 | Fisker- | i has hi |
| 07:02.02 | Punkie` | :o |
| 07:02.09 | Punkie` | can i has hi? |
| 07:02.25 | Fisker- | sure |
| 07:02.27 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 07:02.31 | Punkie` | hi2u |
| 07:02.45 | kb1ibt | i can has hi? |
| 07:02.49 | Dotted | i can has hi 2? |
| 07:02.52 | art3mis | hrm aftte seems broken |
| 07:02.59 | Punkie` | no you're all getting nuked |
| 07:03.01 | art3mis | whats a good tooltip replacement |
| 07:03.51 | Punkie` | nothing wrong with tinytip |
| 07:04.12 | art3mis | whats thraes new leech place? |
| 07:04.24 | art3mis | the wowi one is from jan and he removed it from the wowacesvn |
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| 07:04.41 | ZealotOnAStick | thought he had a googlecode? |
| 07:04.45 | Punkie` | is there a problem with the january version? |
| 07:04.45 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 07:05.40 | art3mis | hrm only perfect target is there |
| 07:06.23 | Punkie` | btw, there's nothing wrong with the tinytip on svn |
| 07:06.38 | Punkie` | or the last version of it |
| 07:06.39 | Punkie` | i mean |
| 07:06.41 | art3mis | didnt show up on the wau |
| 07:06.45 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48607 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Ace3 - cleanup |
| 07:06.48 | art3mis | hence my confusion |
| 07:07.31 | Punkie` | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/TinyTip/ <-- |
| 07:07.33 | Punkie` | it's there |
| 07:07.49 | art3mis | well yeah just checked |
| 07:07.58 | art3mis | dunno why it wasnt showing in my wau |
| 07:08.02 | yssaril | i also have it in my WAU |
| 07:08.27 | sylvanaar | just type part of the name in the search box |
| 07:09.05 | sylvanaar | sometimes you miss it if you scroll around |
| 07:09.32 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:09.38 | art3mis | or maybe im just drunk |
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| 07:15.17 | lolinternet | damnit |
| 07:15.54 | sag_ich_nicht | bad Cairenn, no CTCP TIME reply, i need to know the time in the US! |
| 07:16.10 | sag_ich_nicht | grr, still too early |
| 07:16.24 | MoonWolf | ctcp time the channel, one is bound to respond :P |
| 07:16.26 | MoonWolf | with a bad. |
| 07:17.07 | sag_ich_nicht | MoonWolf i won't do that |
| 07:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 07:17.18 | MoonWolf | your no fun :( |
| 07:17.20 | sag_ich_nicht | move faster, clock, for i need to know if it is patchday(doubt it) |
| 07:17.25 | sag_ich_nicht | *you're |
| 07:18.13 | sag_ich_nicht | MoonWolf |
| 07:18.16 | asmodai | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ |
| 07:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 07:18.23 | sag_ich_nicht | you're .nl |
| 07:18.26 | sag_ich_nicht | okay you're excused. |
| 07:18.32 | MoonWolf | hardly an excuse |
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| 07:18.45 | sag_ich_nicht | true |
| 07:19.07 | sag_ich_nicht | but now i can't bring my whole "you have been corrected by a none native speaker" etc. meanie show |
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| 07:19.19 | asmodai | Definitely hardly an excuse. |
| 07:19.22 | asmodai | I'm Dutch too. :P |
| 07:19.45 | asmodai | My pet peeve: Americans writing 'would of' instead of "would've" or 'would have' |
| 07:20.50 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 07:20.52 | sag_ich_nicht | never seen that |
| 07:21.09 | Recluse | i'm a 'woulda' person |
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| 07:21.32 | asmodai | sag_ich_nicht: Never? I see it on a daily basis so often it gets depressing. |
| 07:21.41 | MoonWolf | i'm a think of a differnt sentence person. |
| 07:21.49 | MoonWolf | different* |
| 07:21.50 | MoonWolf | damnit |
| 07:21.57 | MoonWolf | maybe its the morning or something. |
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| 07:31.07 | sylvanaar | someone tell me if they lose thier settings when wau updates itself just now |
| 07:31.28 | yssaril | anyone know an addon that will take an existing itemlink and add an enchant to it (say random weapon and add mongoose on it if someone wnats to see what it would look like?) |
| 07:31.40 | Recluse | is it just me or is that UI a ripoff of WoW? XD http://www.nostale.co.uk/media_screens.php |
| 07:32.17 | sylvanaar | Recluse how's life on your server? |
| 07:32.25 | yssaril | sylvanaar: lost all my settings /cry |
| 07:33.01 | sylvanaar | frick |
| 07:33.07 | sylvanaar | maybe im going to revert it |
| 07:33.28 | asmodai | hahaha, wth |
| 07:33.32 | asmodai | Recluse: very much so |
| 07:33.47 | Fisker- | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1018/ OH FUCKING WIN |
| 07:33.57 | CIA-22 | 03wiebbe * r48608 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.lua: |
| 07:33.57 | CIA-22 | BossWhisperer: |
| 07:33.57 | CIA-22 | - typo in french translation |
| 07:34.12 | asmodai | Recluse: and ye gods, what does it look HAPPY |
| 07:34.37 | Recluse | sylvanaar: Well, I suppose it's okay. I'm not much into level 70 endgame, so I couldn't comment on that aspect. Otherwise it's a decent place. Been busy playing alts on other realms lately, kinda bored with being 70 and no raiding |
| 07:34.52 | Recluse | asmodai: lol 'happy' |
| 07:35.31 | asmodai | Typically Korean. |
| 07:35.35 | sylvanaar | Recluse i applied to a guild that ended up moving there, so i just wondered what the server was like |
| 07:38.19 | sylvanaar | recycle wau yssaril |
| 07:38.39 | sylvanaar | idk why it did that |
| 07:39.18 | sylvanaar | it should restore your settings |
| 07:39.45 | yssaril | what do you mean with recycle> |
| 07:40.01 | Recluse | sylvanaar: We've had a lot of transfer guilds over there - like they flock to us, but haven't figured out why XD I've been there since I started playing WoW when the realm was just 2 weeks old (March 06). Nothing but us noobs and level 60 endgame made for a creepy social atmosphere, but it's established now. |
| 07:40.46 | TNSe | creepy social atmosphere = everyone bugging lvl 60's to "boost me in sfk plz" |
| 07:40.48 | sylvanaar | Yeah, they moved in may-june i think |
| 07:40.50 | asmodai | I find my server Hellfire to be decent. Moreso than my old Quel'thalas about a year ago. |
| 07:41.18 | Recluse | i'm alliance btw, no eyes on the horde side other than Sylvan Rangers is the 'place to be' or something |
| 07:41.38 | sylvanaar | I like the name |
| 07:41.46 | sylvanaar | needs another a |
| 07:42.02 | Nickenyfiken_ | If i have a loop and do local var1, var2 = Functioncall() on each iteration. Would that allocate new mem on each iteration? should i "declare" the vars before the loop instead or wouldn't it make a difference? |
| 07:42.41 | Recluse | lol, i didn't notice that was kinda close to your nick until you said something there |
| 07:43.49 | sylvanaar | !c us proudmoore Sylvaan |
| 07:43.52 | ThraeBot | sylvanaar: Sylvaan, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (5/0/56). 7284 HP; 8855 Mana; 308 mana regen; 111 mp5; 3.12% melee crit; 1461 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 44 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 671 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywoejk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sy4oj ][ Updated: Tue Sep 11 03:56:13 2007 ]] |
| 07:44.27 | sylvanaar | 2 a's make it authentic |
| 07:44.30 | Recluse | hrm, i logged out in 'city clothes' so my stats wouldn't look good at all XD |
| 07:45.23 | sylvanaar | my name used to be Sylvanaar, but i had to change it for some reason |
| 07:45.34 | Recluse | I wear alliance druid starting robe when i'm in town cause my normal gear looks like a superman costume or something |
| 07:45.40 | Recluse | they made you change Sylvanaar? o.O |
| 07:45.44 | sylvanaar | though you can create a char named Sylvanaar |
| 07:45.49 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 07:45.53 | sylvanaar | they took my name |
| 07:45.54 | Recluse | wth? |
| 07:45.57 | Fisker- | OH LAWD |
| 07:46.10 | nevcairiel | because there is a town in blades edge called sylvanaar |
| 07:46.17 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 07:46.22 | Fisker- | Someone on the SC2 forums arguing that it's silly to use units for suicide because the unit might have a family |
| 07:46.29 | Recluse | oh, i see |
| 07:46.29 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:46.37 | sylvanaar | but, you can create a char named Sylvanaar still |
| 07:46.58 | sylvanaar | that's what i get for making an authentic elf name |
| 07:47.04 | Fisker- | i thought it was ok to be named after lore stuff? |
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| 07:47.32 | Fisker- | spam them with so many complaints you get banned |
| 07:47.34 | sylvanaar | there was a guy named Barov, they made him change his name |
| 07:47.47 | Fisker- | :O |
| 07:47.53 | Fisker- | Blasphemy |
| 07:47.54 | nevcairiel | they dont like players named like npcs |
| 07:47.59 | nevcairiel | or like towns =P |
| 07:48.05 | Fisker- | also madness |
| 07:48.07 | Fisker- | if possible |
| 07:50.27 | Recluse | You are not allowed to name your hunter pet "Master", i found out |
| 07:50.55 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=771468519&postId=7710197297&sid=1#0 look what i did. :X |
| 07:50.58 | Megalon | they block names on hunterpets? |
| 07:51.26 | Recluse | "Master" is the only one I ever found that wouldn't work so far XD |
| 07:51.50 | sag_ich_nicht | try Hitler. |
| 07:51.50 | Industrial | lol sag_ich_nicht |
| 07:52.02 | Fisker- | how do i hitler'ed? |
| 07:52.13 | Industrial | they also block "Mr" and "Mrs" |
| 07:52.14 | Industrial | :( |
| 07:52.25 | Industrial | No MrScruffles for kitty name |
| 07:53.33 | Recluse | let's see if it updated properly, then |
| 07:53.37 | Recluse | !c us norgannon Recluse |
| 07:53.40 | ThraeBot | Recluse: Recluse, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (5/10/46). 6834 HP; 1294 AP; 255.300 Melee DPS; 22.68% melee crit; 166 melee hit; 30.27% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1567 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dg2cy ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38pphx ][ Updated: Tue Sep 11 04:06:00 2007 ]] |
| 07:56.35 | Fisker- | reminds me of a funny forum post btw |
| 07:56.53 | Fisker- | some user was pissed that it wasn't possible to be named gay when you could call yourself titz and such |
| 07:57.09 | Fisker- | then we all told him it was because of the obvious dudespeak in the word, and you can't be named tits |
| 07:57.37 | Fisker- | he thought that blizzard was discriminating against gays |
| 07:57.37 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 07:59.45 | Recluse | could you name yourself geh then? |
| 08:00.20 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 08:00.22 | Fisker- | i guess |
| 08:02.10 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
| 08:02.36 | nevcairiel | morning [Ammo] |
| 08:02.47 | Fisker- | haha nevcairiel is a girl |
| 08:03.05 | nevcairiel | you didnt know? |
| 08:03.48 | [Ammo] | damn fisker what cave has your troll ass been living in |
| 08:04.05 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:04.09 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 08:05.12 | sylvanaar | Gai |
| 08:07.31 | mitch0 | http://www.thenoobcomic.com/index.html |
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| 08:12.16 | Nickenyfiken_ | muahaha |
| 08:12.33 | charon | Sole: ping |
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| 08:25.49 | pb_ee1 | Morning |
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| 08:28.03 | Recluse | morn |
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| 08:41.27 | Diao | hm |
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| 08:49.07 | bindi | meh |
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| 09:01.29 | CIA-22 | 03woody * r48610 10Modality/Modality_Bartender3.lua: Modality: Fixing the case where a state has a 'unit' override specified and the conditional includes a 'modifier' clause. |
| 09:03.56 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
| 09:07.35 | Punkie` | hey |
| 09:11.28 | asmodai | mmm, my colleague just mentioned that Omen keeps saying he's at like 130% of the main tank's threat, yet he does not pull the boss. KTM shows him as being under the tank's threat. |
| 09:12.01 | nevcairiel | he should say which class he is, which fight, and all :P |
| 09:12.10 | nevcairiel | plus if the maintank is running Omen or KTM |
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| 09:13.40 | asmodai | he's a Warlock |
| 09:14.06 | asmodai | !c eu thunderhorn mariska |
| 09:14.08 | Nickenyfiken_ | Well can't aggro gain be 130%? |
| 09:14.09 | ThraeBot | asmodai: Mariska, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/40/21). 8549 HP; 8353 Mana; 166 mana regen; 271 spell crit; 181 spell hit; 984 +spell dmg; 51 shadow dmg (1035); 4.59% dodge; 13 resilience;[[ TBR: 1525 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fvtwh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2l8w8n ][ Updated: Tue Sep 11 05:26:30 2007 ]] |
| 09:14.22 | nevcairiel | 130% is aggro pull for range |
| 09:14.26 | nevcairiel | over 130% that is |
| 09:14.31 | Nickenyfiken_ | Yea |
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| 09:14.42 | asmodai | not sure what the MT is running |
| 09:14.56 | asmodai | the main tank apparently runs both KTM and Omen |
| 09:15.12 | asmodai | same room is useful |
| 09:15.16 | asmodai | :) |
| 09:15.41 | kebinusan | that could be part of the problem, doesnt threatlib cross publish to ktm |
| 09:15.50 | nevcairiel | Omen sometimes breaks when there are people in raid running KTM |
| 09:15.58 | kebinusan | also check their versions |
| 09:16.03 | nevcairiel | pure Omen environment is the way to go :P |
| 09:16.20 | Antiarc | Which fight, asmodai? |
| 09:16.27 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Not always as easy to get done |
| 09:16.38 | asmodai | Antiarc: They were in Karazhan, let me ask which boss |
| 09:16.52 | asmodai | actually by all bosses there |
| 09:17.20 | nevcairiel | did he get over 130% ? |
| 09:17.41 | asmodai | 150% even |
| 09:17.52 | Antiarc | Any of them multi-target? |
| 09:17.57 | nevcairiel | i blame some KTM/Omen interfering |
| 09:18.02 | Antiarc | They generally don't, really |
| 09:18.34 | asmodai | nevcairiel: possibly, dunno (of course) |
| 09:18.47 | asmodai | Antiarc: multi-target as in the boss attacks multiple targets or? |
| 09:19.00 | nevcairiel | multi-target as in the boss has adds |
| 09:19.01 | Antiarc | There are multiple targets in the fight |
| 09:19.09 | Thelyna | like attumen or moroes |
| 09:19.15 | Antiarc | It would cause the tank's threat to over-report on KTM |
| 09:19.16 | asmodai | ah |
| 09:19.36 | asmodai | single target |
| 09:19.37 | Antiarc | Also, everyone up to date? |
| 09:19.41 | nevcairiel | that still wont explain how he can get to 150% and not pull :P |
| 09:19.55 | Antiarc | Which boss? |
| 09:19.57 | asmodai | nevcairiel: which is why some of the Omen using people were yelling at him ^^ |
| 09:20.01 | Antiarc | Also, tank class and DPS class? |
| 09:20.08 | dreamss | http://johnspornreviews.com/iphone.html |
| 09:20.27 | asmodai | Nightbane and the Prince |
| 09:20.34 | Antiarc | Nightbane has adds - skeletons |
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| 09:20.57 | asmodai | Melchezaar == the prince, he couldn't remember the name |
| 09:21.57 | asmodai | The versions should be pretty up-to-date what he just told me. |
| 09:22.16 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r48611 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.zhTW.lua: FuBar_FriendsFu: reverted zhTW change |
| 09:23.14 | Antiarc | what class is the DPS? |
| 09:23.16 | Antiarc | And the tank? |
| 09:23.41 | Fisker- | i love porn ads dreamss |
| 09:23.42 | orionshock | horde should get 30 honor pts for killing the stormpike stable master |
| 09:23.58 | dreamss | heh iphone unlocker is the main attraction' |
| 09:24.03 | dreamss | needs crackin |
| 09:24.56 | asmodai | Antiarc: gimme a moment, he's sending me the raid log ;) |
| 09:25.00 | Antiarc | Okay. |
| 09:25.14 | asmodai | Antiarc: might answer more in an easier format ^^ |
| 09:25.40 | Antiarc | Eh, combat logs are actually nearly impossible to parse for threat data |
| 09:25.52 | asmodai | Antiarc: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=cyqp6skhtjezk |
| 09:26.05 | asmodai | Antiarc: nah, but this gives ya an insight in the party at during that raid |
| 09:26.16 | asmodai | Saves typing... ^^; |
| 09:26.35 | Antiarc | I still don't know who was having the problems :P |
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| 09:27.13 | asmodai | Antiarc: mariska, the warlock dpser |
| 09:27.31 | abbat_w | mariska... |
| 09:27.33 | abbat_w | czech? |
| 09:27.39 | Antiarc | Perhaps a missed soulshatter resist. |
| 09:27.51 | asmodai | abbat_w: nope |
| 09:27.58 | asmodai | abbat_w: Common name in NL too |
| 09:28.05 | abbat_w | ah |
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| 09:32.39 | Jazradel | tell him his hunter his hunter should respec beast |
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| 09:32.49 | asmodai | Antiarc: Well, just figured I mention it since I like Omen in general. I just heard my colleague complain about miscalculations again today, seems it keeps overreporting his threat... |
| 09:33.00 | abbat_w | =) |
| 09:33.02 | asmodai | Jazradel: hahah, how so? |
| 09:33.04 | abbat_w | he die? :) |
| 09:33.30 | abbat_w | Ahahha ;) |
| 09:33.46 | Jazradel | fi > trueshot aura for a raid buff and he's not doing anywhere near enough dps |
| 09:33.50 | baer_ | moin. |
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| 09:34.06 | Antiarc | Thanks, asmodai. Have them keep an eye on it and let me know if it goes out of whack more |
| 09:34.15 | asmodai | Antiarc: aye, will do |
| 09:34.27 | asmodai | Antiarc: what's info you need btw? |
| 09:34.30 | abbat_w | Btw, Aniarc, someone told you what it's you fault if someone died due to errors in threat calculation? :) |
| 09:34.33 | Antiarc | screenshots would be most helpful |
| 09:35.02 | Fisker- | 1+1 = 2!1 |
| 09:35.48 | abbat_w | btw guys |
| 09:35.51 | Fisker- | no u |
| 09:36.22 | abbat_w | If i do local a = {}, local b = {}, local _mt = {}. then setmetatable(a, mt), setmetatable(b, mt) |
| 09:36.33 | abbat_w | A and B both have same metatable? |
| 09:36.40 | Fisker- | i'd definitely tap that |
| 09:36.40 | Xinhuan | yes :) |
| 09:36.46 | asmodai | Antiarc: he'll do so, he doesn't use Omen himself, but he will install for the raid on wednesday and take some screenies |
| 09:36.56 | abbat_w | if i change _mt, A and B should changes also? |
| 09:36.57 | Xinhuan | changing _mt will change the bahavior of both tables |
| 09:37.22 | abbat_w | nice |
| 09:37.26 | Xinhuan | but if you set a meta table as having weak keys, do NOT change that or you'll get undefined behavior lol |
| 09:37.42 | Antiarc | Oh, wait, he was seeing high threat on KTM and not pulling aggro? |
| 09:37.57 | abbat_w | at this moment i stop 1 chapter before weak tables in PiL :) |
| 09:37.58 | CIA-22 | 03recluse * r48612 10TextSpy/code/TextSpy.lua: |
| 09:37.58 | CIA-22 | TextSpy: |
| 09:37.58 | CIA-22 | - Users can now define a custom string to output for their triggers if they wish. |
| 09:38.06 | Fisker- | oh hi Punkie` |
| 09:38.10 | Fisker- | why the stomping? |
| 09:39.13 | [Ammo] | fist to the face greeting |
| 09:39.40 | Punkie` | my foot slipped |
| 09:40.21 | Fisker- | ah |
| 09:40.47 | Jazradel | btw, can anyone think of a bug that would cause two version of cartographer with completely different settings to co-exist? |
| 09:40.53 | Fisker- | oops, my dump truck slipped |
| 09:41.08 | Punkie` | it's ok |
| 09:41.22 | Jazradel | when the shortcut(m) is pressed, one closes and the other opens |
| 09:42.00 | Nickenyfiken_ | Uh what? |
| 09:42.20 | Jazradel | disabled everything except the core version of cart and the addons it needs. i'm using the latest version from wowace but i've removed the instance data/notes |
| 09:42.31 | Diao | o_O |
| 09:43.14 | Nickenyfiken_ | Jazradel: close wow, rename/backup/remove your WTF folder and try |
| 09:43.26 | asmodai | Antiarc: no |
| 09:43.31 | asmodai | Antiarc: he was ok on KTM |
| 09:43.40 | asmodai | Antiarc: and guild mates were saying/seeing him at 150% |
| 09:43.44 | asmodai | with Omen |
| 09:43.44 | Nickenyfiken_ | KTM is never ok :-P |
| 09:44.24 | Fisker- | ktm is failure |
| 09:44.32 | Antiarc | Right. KTM reports ALL your threat clumped together, so in any multi-target fight, it will report high |
| 09:44.47 | Nickenyfiken_ | OMG MacGyver on TV! |
| 09:44.48 | Fisker- | in magtheridon it fails @ resetting threat :D |
| 09:44.49 | Antiarc | This is especially bad for a warlock because they are so multi-target friendly |
| 09:45.03 | Fisker- | one of our hunters had like 300k threat on Magtheridon |
| 09:45.06 | asmodai | Antiarc: lol, multi-target friendly |
| 09:45.18 | Antiarc | DOTs = many targets building threat at once :) |
| 09:45.35 | Antiarc | I can't help those numbers from KTM, I'm afraid |
| 09:45.55 | Tupsi | uhh i have an idea |
| 09:46.05 | Tupsi | stop reading ktm data .-) |
| 09:46.38 | Tupsi | last time i checked there where still a ktm option in the menu |
| 09:46.42 | Tupsi | of omen |
| 09:46.45 | Fisker- | http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6683219&posted=1#post6683219 <-mean? |
| 09:46.47 | Antiarc | Unless a master target is set, KTM will over-report in any multi-target fight |
| 09:46.54 | Jazradel | hmm yeh the wtf trick fixed it |
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| 09:47.13 | asmodai | Antiarc: which would not explain Melchezaar though, AFAIK he's a single target |
| 09:47.22 | Antiarc | No, it wouldn't |
| 09:47.38 | CIA-22 | 03recluse * r48613 10TextSpy/code/TextSpy.lua: |
| 09:47.38 | CIA-22 | TextSpy: |
| 09:47.38 | CIA-22 | - Catch empty string properly this time. |
| 09:47.38 | CIA-22 | - Write: I will remember to test all features for bugs before committing. 100 times on the blackboard. |
| 09:49.47 | asmodai | Antiarc: he also doesn't use DoTs actually. |
| 09:49.50 | Fisker- | gonna be fucking epic if it turns out that her parents killed maddie |
| 09:50.02 | Fisker- | i'd marry the moment and father a lot of baby-moments with it |
| 09:50.11 | Antiarc | Well, I'm sure he attacks multiple targets |
| 09:50.41 | Antiarc | Basically, you can expect KTM users to report unusually high on Omen readouts. Nothing I can do about that, since that number is wrong anyhow. |
| 09:51.06 | asmodai | fair enough. |
| 09:51.29 | Punkie` | Fisker-: did you take your pills today? |
| 09:51.36 | Fisker- | why? |
| 09:51.51 | Arrowmaster | when a tank using omen/threat-1.0 taunts does it use ktm data for the new threat amount? |
| 09:53.23 | Arrowmaster | if so lol at trying to get accurate threat values for any tauntable fight if theres a ktm user |
| 09:53.34 | Grum | when using omen and ktm together you will not *ever* get accurate threat values |
| 09:53.41 | Grum | not on neither of the users |
| 09:53.46 | Fisker- | well Arrowmaster the solution is simple |
| 09:53.50 | Grum | so stick to one, omen preferred |
| 09:53.54 | Fisker- | Make an addon called "DoNotWant" |
| 09:53.57 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host81-152-190-4.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:54.13 | Fisker- | Queries raid members for omen, and if KTM or outdated version of omen = guildkick |
| 09:54.27 | abbat_w | and report |
| 09:54.31 | abbat_w | for bot using etc |
| 09:54.43 | Fisker- | yeah report them for bot using, gold farming, etc. |
| 09:54.52 | Fisker- | also if they whisper you curse words, report that too |
| 09:55.30 | Cartas | Fisker-: Being your usual dictator-self, I see? :o |
| 09:55.44 | Grum | <3 Fisker- |
| 09:55.46 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r48614 10Cartographer_Data/Cartographer_Data.toc: Cartographer_Data: add Notes-zhTW to toc |
| 09:56.07 | Arrowmaster | unfortuently i dont have any power in my current guild |
| 09:56.09 | abbat_w | best solution is to remove all 'threat' mods |
| 09:56.12 | Fisker- | i just can't understand why people are having such a hard time pressing the delete button and downloading omen :I |
| 09:56.17 | abbat_w | and disable analizy threat |
| 09:56.20 | Fisker- | true abbat_w |
| 09:56.21 | abbat_w | analyze |
| 09:56.24 | MoonWolf | i don 't want omen |
| 09:56.31 | Sole | too bad |
| 09:56.35 | Sole | it is being oppressed on you |
| 09:56.37 | Fisker- | then you were guildkicked from my guild |
| 09:56.38 | MoonWolf | or ktm |
| 09:56.39 | Sole | USE IT OR DIE! |
| 09:56.52 | Sole | opression will rulE! |
| 09:56.57 | Arrowmaster | so i cant do anything about the people using KTM, DBM, revision 39xxx of BigWigs, or revision 41xxx of Omen |
| 09:56.58 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 09:57.00 | MoonWolf | can i simply install agrolib and not look at any meters ? |
| 09:57.08 | Sole | Threat-1.0 ? |
| 09:57.11 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 09:57.12 | Fisker- | you should be able to |
| 09:57.15 | MoonWolf | that thing |
| 09:57.18 | Sole | I think so |
| 09:57.24 | MoonWolf | i don't keep track of those stupid agro meters much |
| 09:57.29 | MoonWolf | some things you really should not be using |
| 09:57.40 | MoonWolf | i think omen/ktm is one of those things |
| 09:57.50 | Antiarc | Yes, MoonWolf |
| 09:58.06 | Antiarc | Threat-1.0 is sufficient to satisfy the meter nazis, since it sends your threat but doesn't bug you with a UI :) |
| 09:58.21 | Fisker- | i'm not a meter nazi |
| 09:58.24 | Grum | well it's not about 'meter nazi' |
| 09:58.30 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.36 | Fisker- | no :( |
| 09:58.49 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:58.57 | abbat_w | meter nazi ;) |
| 09:59.01 | abbat_w | good term btw |
| 09:59.06 | Grum | it's about not meters it's about monitoring nubcakes |
| 09:59.13 | Grum | that is also why i *love* player targets |
| 09:59.15 | MoonWolf | nubcakes die |
| 09:59.19 | MoonWolf | thats why you don't meters |
| 09:59.20 | Fisker- | infact i'd also prefer that there was no such thing as threatmeters |
| 09:59.24 | abbat_w | Most of pve players UI it's just 'meters'. Threat, damage, something else ;) |
| 09:59.26 | Grum | 'so you werent killing the spitfire totem HUH?~!!!!' |
| 09:59.29 | MoonWolf | you simply let the nubcakes die untill they stop being nubcakes |
| 09:59.36 | abbat_w | But i think they miss MAIN meter - satisfaction ;) |
| 09:59.41 | Fisker- | because we got a couple of n00bs "But this guy was way over me in threat" |
| 09:59.42 | Grum | right .. MoonWolf it's also my time i invest |
| 09:59.50 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 09:59.58 | Fisker- | which is annoying when it's rogues and hunters |
| 10:00.01 | MoonWolf | you can spend it having fun with friends and TEACHING others how to play |
| 10:00.09 | abbat_w | pff... |
| 10:00.16 | abbat_w | start dps after 5 sunders ;) |
| 10:00.20 | Recluse | the moral of the story is that omen > ktm and they cause problems if you use both? |
| 10:00.36 | MoonWolf | if i did have to pick one |
| 10:00.42 | MoonWolf | omen over that piece of crap ktm anyday |
| 10:00.54 | MoonWolf | i'm not some ace elitist but ktm is just blech |
| 10:01.26 | Punkie` | Fisker-: your rogues suck! |
| 10:01.27 | abbat_w | I remember Vael's fights with KTM... Tanks look at KTM for got burned in order... |
| 10:01.29 | [Ammo] | tsk moonwolf |
| 10:01.39 | Fisker- | Punkie` indeed |
| 10:01.43 | MoonWolf | what [ammo] ? |
| 10:01.47 | Fisker- | well it's understandable they fail the first time |
| 10:01.56 | Fisker- | but they did the same thing the second time as well |
| 10:02.04 | [Ammo] | claiming you're not elitist! |
| 10:02.09 | [Ammo] | ofcourse you are! |
| 10:02.11 | MoonWolf | fine i'm an elitist |
| 10:02.19 | Fisker- | after i explicitly told them that KTM was screwing up the threat |
| 10:02.19 | abbat_w | elilist jerk? |
| 10:02.20 | [Ammo] | what happened to our motto: If you ain't dutch you ain't much! |
| 10:02.20 | MoonWolf | but i still hate ktm because of bad first |
| 10:02.24 | MoonWolf | and none ace second. |
| 10:02.31 | Cartas | KTM was good, Fisker-! |
| 10:02.35 | Fisker- | no u |
| 10:02.40 | abbat_w | good |
| 10:02.43 | Cartas | The only addon of its kind for quite some time? |
| 10:02.50 | abbat_w | for understanding 'threat' |
| 10:02.55 | Fisker- | i just used damage meters |
| 10:02.59 | Fisker- | was fine enough for me |
| 10:03.00 | MoonWolf | nobody wrote something else because a lot of people didn't like the concept |
| 10:03.02 | MoonWolf | for a long time |
| 10:03.05 | cryogen | im almost done with my non ace experiment |
| 10:03.06 | MoonWolf | and i STILL don't |
| 10:03.08 | cryogen | it's been qwuite interesting :) |
| 10:03.10 | Cartas | That's their fault, MoonWolf! |
| 10:03.13 | Cartas | Not the addons. |
| 10:03.23 | asmodai | The question is, how can you convince people that Omen > KTM |
| 10:03.31 | MoonWolf | but it explains why ktm was the best thing arund for such a long time |
| 10:03.34 | cryogen | im finding my non ace cpu/memory usage to be much lower |
| 10:03.34 | Cartas | Tell them it's Ace2! |
| 10:03.34 | asmodai | It definitely looks more purty ;) |
| 10:03.36 | Fisker- | The "DoNotWant"-addon |
| 10:03.48 | cryogen | but only because i tend to install too many crappy little ace addons |
| 10:03.49 | MoonWolf | it wasn't good, but nobody else wanted to make something better. |
| 10:03.52 | Cartas | Tell them that Fisker will kill them if you don't switch to Omen. |
| 10:03.57 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:04.00 | Cartas | It was as good as there was available, at least. |
| 10:04.00 | abbat_w | MoonWolf, what about me, i was needed gfx representation of 'threat' to understand 'what is it' |
| 10:04.09 | abbat_w | MoonWolf, maybe some ppl need this too |
| 10:04.18 | MoonWolf | no, nobody NEEDS this |
| 10:04.21 | MoonWolf | nobody |
| 10:04.29 | Antiarc | Blizzard thinks they do. |
| 10:04.32 | MoonWolf | if you do more damage then the tank creates agro, you die |
| 10:04.35 | MoonWolf | this is simple |
| 10:04.37 | Antiarc | No |
| 10:04.43 | Antiarc | If you create more threat than the tank does, you die :) |
| 10:04.46 | Antiarc | Damage != threat :) |
| 10:04.52 | abbat_w | yep |
| 10:04.53 | Diao | you should have a general idea of where your threat is relative to your tank without a threatmeter |
| 10:04.55 | cryogen | apparently MoonWolf needs it :D |
| 10:04.55 | MoonWolf | Antiarc, i'm trying to keep it simple here. |
| 10:04.58 | abbat_w | dmg != threat ;) |
| 10:05.04 | Antiarc | The problem is that threat isn't simple |
| 10:05.04 | Fisker- | Also the reason Blizzard is making it is because they can't fight it |
| 10:05.08 | Cartas | Sure, nobody needs it, MoonWolf. But nobody needs to have different unitframes than the default, nor actionbars, nor a different map, etc. |
| 10:05.14 | Fisker- | without locking down the UI too much |
| 10:05.33 | abbat_w | Agree with Antiarc |
| 10:05.38 | Diao | threatmeters are for min/maxing |
| 10:05.40 | MoonWolf | true, but why don't we simply go and tell people wich button to press when and turn wow into god of war! |
| 10:05.43 | MoonWolf | and then make a bot for it |
| 10:05.43 | abbat_w | Threat isn't simple to understand it ;) |
| 10:05.46 | MoonWolf | SOUND LIKE FUN |
| 10:05.55 | Cartas | God of War? |
| 10:06.16 | MoonWolf | press x now |
| 10:06.17 | Fisker- | I just think what'll happen is that they'll go back to more individual encounters and tank rotation based encounters |
| 10:06.17 | MoonWolf | press y now |
| 10:06.20 | Cartas | xy |
| 10:06.21 | MoonWolf | pres bla now |
| 10:06.26 | Cartas | We should make it look like a SNES game, if anything. |
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| 10:06.27 | abbat_w | But after Vael i completly remove dmgmeter and ktm ;) |
| 10:06.28 | MoonWolf | you win. |
| 10:06.32 | Antiarc | Thing is |
| 10:06.45 | MoonWolf | tells yo uon the screen |
| 10:06.47 | Antiarc | Blizzard has done a REALLY good job in BC of making fights a lot more complex than "don't pull aggro" |
| 10:06.49 | MoonWolf | what button to press |
| 10:06.51 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:06.55 | Antiarc | Watching threat is no longer the panecea that it was pre-BC |
| 10:06.59 | asmodai | Was doing a duo-run with a lvl 65 warlock guild mate in SM yesterday, I'm a lvl 41 shaman. He walked past some mobs a distance away, they didn't aggro, I follow his trail, BOOM, attract. :S |
| 10:07.00 | Diao | there's very few fights where you just tank and spank now |
| 10:07.06 | asmodai | So yeah, threat/aggro is not easy at times |
| 10:07.44 | Diao | my guild uses threatmeters for only 2 things: know when our tank missed initial attacks so we hold back on dps, and to maximize damage without pulling agro |
| 10:08.07 | MoonWolf | who needs individual player abilties |
| 10:08.11 | MoonWolf | we have addons for that. |
| 10:08.30 | cryogen | MoonWolf: wow played(on the whole) dont care about how hard stuff is |
| 10:08.37 | cryogen | MoonWolf: they care about how quickly they can have purple stuff |
| 10:08.42 | Diao | well |
| 10:08.42 | cryogen | players* |
| 10:08.49 | Diao | you shouldn't only exclude threatmeter |
| 10:08.56 | Diao | why not exclude every other addon |
| 10:09.02 | Diao | with that reasoning :P |
| 10:09.09 | MoonWolf | i filter many things |
| 10:09.20 | cryogen | good for you! |
| 10:09.21 | Antiarc | MoonWolf: If you think that high-end raiding can be done with just any monkey + addons, then you can't be much of a high-end raider :P |
| 10:09.21 | MoonWolf | that i think should not be used. |
| 10:09.30 | Cartas | You think we should still have the same UI as we had back when WoW was in beta, eh? |
| 10:09.35 | Cartas | We didn't NEED anything more than that. |
| 10:09.54 | cryogen | the whole point of a customisable UI/game is to set it up how YOU want it |
| 10:10.00 | Diao | nobody needs bossmods, but how many guilds raid without one? |
| 10:10.10 | MoonWolf | there is a difference between something that makes my bags looks nice, changes the texture of my unitframes and makes a counter of mu current gold on screen |
| 10:10.12 | cryogen | if you dont want a threat meter dont install one |
| 10:10.12 | cryogen | simple |
| 10:10.26 | cryogen | dont cry if others use one though |
| 10:10.29 | MoonWolf | and something that allows me to see exactly who has how much agro or dispell the entire raid by pressing one button |
| 10:10.39 | abbat_w | Diao! |
| 10:10.44 | Diao | ? |
| 10:10.45 | abbat_w | I like BigWigs bars ;) |
| 10:10.50 | Diao | lol |
| 10:10.57 | abbat_w | They just nice looking ;) |
| 10:10.57 | Diao | me too :) |
| 10:11.04 | ramoz | me too |
| 10:11.32 | ramoz | only thing im missing in bigwigs is the health thingie on najentus |
| 10:11.48 | ramoz | DBM has a box showing who's below 8500 hp |
| 10:11.59 | abbat_w | This is because i never use necb and bendetta |
| 10:12.15 | abbat_w | This 2 mods has ugly bars ;) |
| 10:12.23 | Diao | necb isn't bad |
| 10:12.25 | [Ammo] | ramoz: no need to have that in bigwigs, can be a simple standalone thing |
| 10:12.28 | abbat_w | Now not |
| 10:12.29 | Diao | it has 20 textures or so |
| 10:12.31 | [Ammo] | ramoz: a very simple standalone at that |
| 10:12.38 | abbat_w | But some time ago it was crap |
| 10:12.47 | Diao | although i would like it to use sharedmedia |
| 10:12.53 | ramoz | [Ammo]: well, i dont know how to write one |
| 10:12.53 | abbat_w | Yeah |
| 10:13.08 | abbat_w | All my textures are in one style ;) |
| 10:13.20 | Cartas | I always use the Smooth texture <3 |
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| 10:13.32 | abbat_w | minimalist > charcoal > all ;) |
| 10:13.56 | Diao | i've gotten used to litestep |
| 10:14.00 | abbat_w | Btw, SharedMedia is a great idea |
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| 10:16.05 | Diao | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7528-OnScreen.html |
| 10:16.09 | Diao | is thta supposed to be like dash? |
| 10:16.11 | Diao | that* |
| 10:17.09 | Recluse | sharedmedia confuses me. it won't turn off. i can turn off everything in my addons list including sharedmedia, restart the game, and BAM it's enabled again XD |
| 10:17.49 | Diao | o_O |
| 10:17.55 | Diao | do you disable at character select? |
| 10:17.56 | Diao | or ingame |
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| 10:18.27 | Recluse | i've tried on the character selection screen and via the ACP addon, both to no avail |
| 10:18.56 | [Ammo] | if you're talking about Lib: SharedMedia then yes |
| 10:19.15 | [Ammo] | that gets enabled by acelib due to it being required for addons |
| 10:19.18 | Diao | acp probably because it autoenables dependencies or something |
| 10:19.42 | [Ammo] | the SharedMedia addon should remain disabled though, it's just a storage for textures etc. Although you won't have them if you disable it |
| 10:20.08 | abbat_w | yep |
| 10:22.01 | Recluse | right, but here's an example of what happens: I start WoW, go to a character and hit "disable all" on character selection screen' addon list. log in. when i log out and open the addon list at character selection, everything is off except sharedmedia. kinda odd to me is all lol |
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| 10:22.39 | Diao | so uh |
| 10:22.48 | Diao | is that onscreen addon basically the same thing as dash :O |
| 10:23.22 | Nickenyfiken_ | What is dash? |
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| 10:23.51 | Recluse | for solo lock/huntard, omen will show pet threat? |
| 10:24.06 | Antiarc | yup |
| 10:24.26 | Diao | uh |
| 10:25.04 | Recluse | diao: i never heard of dash either, so i'm no help there XD |
| 10:25.15 | Diao | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7391-Dash.html |
| 10:25.15 | Diao | lol |
| 10:28.02 | cryogen | why does wowinterface's search suck so much balls? |
| 10:28.14 | cryogen | is it so hard to have a little box on the main page that says "search" next to it? |
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| 10:29.03 | Jazradel | i like it more than wowace's habit of including wowwiki.com as wel |
| 10:29.11 | Recluse | diao: never used them, BUT from the description there, dash looks more flexible in what it can hide, but at the cost of being hardER to use perhaps? looks like onscreen does a similar thing, but only for addons in their list and auto-toggles in combat - doesn't look like dash is combat-sensitive in contrast |
| 10:29.47 | Dhraga | are there anyway to have the StandaloneLibraries installed without unpacked (that is all libs under one folder) ? |
| 10:31.35 | Punkie` | theres a button that says search on wowi |
| 10:31.41 | Punkie` | and then you search in the downloads box |
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| 10:31.55 | Antiarc | Dhraga: No, I don't believe so |
| 10:32.19 | Dhraga | Antiarc: ok thanks |
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| 10:46.23 | Dhraga | hmm anyone experiencing that WAU are crasing, and know a sulotion for it ? |
| 10:46.31 | sb | get latest version |
| 10:46.45 | Dhraga | I thought 1.9 updated itself |
| 10:47.02 | sb | it stopped at some point (crash :o) |
| 10:47.04 | sb | http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 10:47.09 | Corgan | well |
| 10:47.11 | Corgan | I got my script working |
| 10:47.12 | Corgan | :D |
| 10:47.20 | sb | compare your version number |
| 10:47.38 | Corgan | [00:44:59] <@Demon> .item Blasphemy |
| 10:47.39 | Corgan | [00:45:00] <@StompCat> [Boots of Blasphemy] [iLVL 110] [Cloth] [Feet] http://wowhead.com/?item=29242 |
| 10:47.44 | Cartas | Dhraga: When mine "crashed", it just produced the error message, but WAU could still be used, and worked fine :o |
| 10:47.45 | Corgan | with color |
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| 10:48.12 | Dhraga | I got the WAU Version (1.9.43.602), and I just noticed that a new versin was avalible |
| 10:49.35 | Diao | uninstall |
| 10:49.37 | Diao | and reinstall it |
| 10:49.50 | Dhraga | Cartas, yes I have the same, it continues to work even though it produces an error, but after a while it autocloses |
| 10:50.43 | Dhraga | Diao, Ill try |
| 10:53.07 | Dhraga | After reinstall the version reads 1.9.44.654 while it reads 1.9.44.656 on the webpage, but I'll hope it works... havent crashed yet anyway =) |
| 10:53.25 | Fisker- | this is madness Corgan |
| 10:53.32 | Corgan | ? |
| 10:53.37 | Fisker- | [12:47:21] <Corgan> [00:44:59] <@Demon> .item Blasphemy |
| 10:53.38 | Fisker- | [12:47:21] <Corgan> [00:45:00] <@StompCat> [Boots of Blasphemy] [iLVL 110] [Cloth] [Feet] http://wowhead.com/?item=29242 |
| 10:53.38 | Corgan | this is spartaaaaaaa |
| 10:53.49 | Corgan | [00:54:37] <04@Demon> .item Madness of the |
| 10:53.50 | Corgan | [00:54:38] <04@StompCat> 06[Madness of the Betrayer]15 [iLVL 141] [Trinkets] [Trinket] http://wowhead.com/?item=32505 |
| 10:54.00 | Corgan | that is madness |
| 10:54.19 | Corgan | sexy amirite? |
| 10:54.26 | Fisker- | Punkie` i has started drama |
| 10:54.47 | Fisker- | btw this reminds me of how much i hate "omg you can't just quote several parts of a post then you remove the intention and purpose of the post omg omg" |
| 10:55.07 | Corgan | "omg omg omg" |
| 10:55.17 | Corgan | I just removed everything from what you said except for the omgs |
| 10:55.18 | Corgan | :D |
| 10:55.19 | Fisker- | omg |
| 10:55.27 | Fisker- | and not like that of course |
| 10:55.42 | Corgan | My eggdrop bot's name is the coolest |
| 10:55.43 | Corgan | dont' you think? |
| 10:55.50 | Fisker- | no |
| 10:55.52 | Fisker- | it sucks :( |
| 10:55.55 | Corgan | :( |
| 10:55.58 | Corgan | StompCat :( |
| 10:56.07 | Grum | what's it called? |
| 10:56.12 | Corgan | StompCat :D |
| 10:56.21 | Grum | explain the name .. because else it will be stupid :D |
| 10:56.33 | Corgan | it...stomps...cats? |
| 10:56.40 | Corgan | :D |
| 10:56.49 | Punkie` | Fisker-: do want |
| 10:56.57 | Grum | and how is that funny? |
| 10:57.08 | Grum | CATS > YOU! |
| 10:57.09 | Corgan | couldn't think of anything else |
| 10:57.19 | Grum | call it Eggsalted |
| 10:57.21 | Corgan | was the first thing that came to mind |
| 10:57.25 | Corgan | that's lame |
| 10:57.42 | Fisker- | do want Punkie` |
| 10:57.54 | Grum | call it Fisker |
| 10:58.09 | Corgan | Fister |
| 10:58.15 | Grum | Fitser! |
| 10:58.16 | Fisker- | my previous guild got pissed when i called them a social guild |
| 10:58.17 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:58.31 | Grum | they progressed until Maiden? :D |
| 10:58.36 | Corgan | awesome :D |
| 10:58.38 | Fisker- | nah they're at vashj |
| 10:58.43 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=Dotted@pdpc/supporter/student/dotted) |
| 10:58.49 | Grum | Vashj is a bitch! |
| 10:58.53 | Grum | and Al'ar is hot! |
| 10:59.00 | Corgan | LOL GIT IT? |
| 10:59.01 | Grum | did 13 tries on Al'ar yesterday :D |
| 10:59.10 | Fisker- | I GOT IT LOL |
| 10:59.24 | Corgan | I don't play steadily enough to do raids :( |
| 10:59.33 | Corgan | I was in a casual guild that broke apart |
| 10:59.34 | Corgan | lulz |
| 10:59.39 | Corgan | fullclear kara etc |
| 10:59.44 | Corgan | I don't have a piece of kara gear on me... |
| 10:59.46 | Punkie` | Fisker-: lols, adrian7812 posted back to you |
| 10:59.51 | Corgan | oh wait, no, i have staff of mysteries |
| 10:59.51 | Dotted | lol ur funny m8 |
| 11:00.21 | Grum | so funny, someone actually 'wanting' the staff of mysteries |
| 11:00.26 | Corgan | bleh |
| 11:00.35 | Fisker- | i know Punkie` |
| 11:00.36 | Corgan | I don't |
| 11:00.44 | Corgan | I wish I had mindblade + nightbane offhand |
| 11:00.48 | abbat_w | Punkie? |
| 11:00.55 | Punkie` | what? |
| 11:00.59 | Corgan | who? |
| 11:01.06 | abbat_w | I listen something about Punkie... it's a rogue, right? :) |
| 11:01.08 | Grum | Corgan: try the dagger from Doomwalker |
| 11:01.10 | Grum | it's IMBAH |
| 11:01.15 | Corgan | bleh |
| 11:01.16 | Corgan | I know |
| 11:01.16 | Punkie` | yeah why :o |
| 11:01.19 | Corgan | I would kill for it |
| 11:01.20 | Corgan | :D |
| 11:01.30 | Grum | well kill Doomwalker for it =D |
| 11:01.38 | Corgan | I'm guildless =D |
| 11:01.44 | Grum | solo him |
| 11:01.59 | Corgan | will do! |
| 11:02.07 | Corgan | as a moonkin I can kill anything! |
| 11:02.13 | Grum | put up thorns and let him hit you |
| 11:02.18 | Fisker- | btw Punkie` |
| 11:02.21 | Fisker- | we need to KILL fileplanet |
| 11:02.31 | Fisker- | for activating the Crysis beta in the middle of the night |
| 11:02.34 | Corgan | I want quake wars! |
| 11:02.43 | Fisker- | suck on my wars |
| 11:02.48 | Grum | salty |
| 11:02.49 | Corgan | suck on my fist |
| 11:02.50 | Corgan | ! |
| 11:02.56 | *** join/#wowace Cidan (i=feh@conspiracy/developer/Cidan) |
| 11:02.56 | Grum | it's wet! |
| 11:03.02 | Corgan | and salty :D |
| 11:03.11 | Grum | iieew you been with your fist in his wars? |
| 11:03.12 | Corgan | My head hurts |
| 11:03.16 | Punkie` | Fisker-: do you have it now? :o |
| 11:03.21 | Grum | stop banging it against the screen |
| 11:03.27 | Corgan | I coded that script in like, 2 hours |
| 11:03.28 | Corgan | :\ |
| 11:03.28 | Corgan | :/ |
| 11:03.39 | Corgan | I havn't messed with tcl in months |
| 11:03.44 | Corgan | It hurts my head :( |
| 11:03.50 | Fisker- | crysis mr. Punkie`? |
| 11:03.53 | Grum | haha tcl is EVIL |
| 11:03.57 | Grum | yay for stringeval :D |
| 11:03.57 | Corgan | yes, it is |
| 11:04.03 | Punkie` | yup |
| 11:04.34 | Corgan | but at least the bot works :D |
| 11:04.38 | Fisker- | noes Punkie` |
| 11:04.39 | *** join/#wowace caith (n=caithlyn@p50915CF6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:04.40 | Grum | make it in perl |
| 11:04.43 | Fisker- | which is why we must kill fileplanet |
| 11:04.43 | Grum | then you can do it fastardar! |
| 11:04.43 | caith | hi |
| 11:05.03 | Grum | Corgan: make it do item comparisons! |
| 11:05.04 | Corgan | I can't decide on which color to use for blue items |
| 11:05.16 | Corgan | 2Green 12Purple |
| 11:05.27 | Grum | that was black and blue here =D |
| 11:05.33 | Corgan | mm |
| 11:05.33 | nevcairiel | red and grey for me |
| 11:05.37 | Corgan | @_@ |
| 11:05.45 | Corgan | damn you and your different irc clients |
| 11:05.50 | Punkie` | 13,9helllooooooooo |
| 11:05.59 | nevcairiel | now someone kick Punkie` |
| 11:06.05 | Punkie` | :( |
| 11:06.08 | nevcairiel | i bet ammo would love to |
| 11:06.22 | Punkie` | ammo would love to kiss my ass tbh |
| 11:06.23 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 11:06.25 | caith | I have a request, concering buffs / dubuffs display of the pitbull-unitframes. can anyone help me please? :) |
| 11:06.30 | Grum | ^k 3 or 9 are green; 6,13 are purple; 2,13 are blue |
| 11:06.31 | Fisker- | 9,11 OH HI Punkie` LOLOL |
| 11:06.34 | Corgan | OW MY EYES |
| 11:06.34 | Corgan | FUCK |
| 11:06.41 | Fisker- | i won |
| 11:06.42 | Punkie` | nice Fisker-! |
| 11:06.48 | Fisker- | ! |
| 11:07.07 | Fisker- | FATALITY |
| 11:07.13 | Grum | ooooh! |
| 11:07.23 | Grum | WTS GNOME BABIES, fresh GNOME BABIES |
| 11:07.26 | caith | no pitbull-lua-coder here? :| |
| 11:07.42 | Corgan | 8,9I9,8 8,9P9,8r8,9e9,8f8,9e9,8r8,9 9,8t8,9h9,8i8,9s9,8. |
| 11:07.46 | Fisker- | 8 hours! |
| 11:07.50 | Corgan | wow |
| 11:07.53 | Corgan | i spelled that horribly |
| 11:07.56 | Fisker- | not even epilepsi Corgan |
| 11:07.57 | Corgan | rofl |
| 11:08.00 | *** join/#wowace Boubouille (n=Boubouil@AVelizy-151-1-29-65.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:08.03 | Corgan | wait |
| 11:08.03 | Corgan | what |
| 11:08.06 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 11:08.09 | Corgan | I spelled that right |
| 11:08.15 | Corgan | It must be late... |
| 11:08.19 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 11:08.20 | Corgan | 1AM |
| 11:08.20 | Fisker- | go to bed |
| 11:08.29 | Grum | why does no-one want my gnome babies? i perfectly legally stole them :( |
| 11:08.47 | Corgan | I want quake wars! |
| 11:09.20 | Corgan | fileplanet is so lame |
| 11:09.29 | Corgan | TOUCHDOWN! |
| 11:09.49 | Fisker- | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1018/ <-best comic ever btw |
| 11:10.30 | Sole | Grum: I want midget babies so I can have on-hand fuck dolls |
| 11:10.39 | Sole | Grum: gnome babies dont have enough cushion |
| 11:10.47 | Grum | these have - from a fat gnome! |
| 11:10.56 | Sole | oooh |
| 11:11.06 | Sole | its like a fleshlight but alive |
| 11:11.08 | Sole | and warm |
| 11:11.14 | Grum | they are still alive |
| 11:11.16 | Sole | and still fits in your pocket! AMG |
| 11:11.21 | Grum | tiny maggots! :D |
| 11:12.36 | Corgan | SLEEPY TIME |
| 11:12.38 | Corgan | GOODNIGHT |
| 11:13.00 | Corgan | [01:13:37] <04@StompCat> 00[Dreamless Sleep Potion]15 [iLVL 45] http://wowhead.com/?item=12190 |
| 11:13.01 | Corgan | :D |
| 11:14.08 | Grum | wrong colors |
| 11:14.09 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110| (i=bla@pD957D07E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:14.10 | Grum | seriously |
| 11:14.13 | Grum | get your colors right |
| 11:14.39 | Corgan | no, they're right for mirc |
| 11:14.40 | Grum | http://www.mirc.co.uk/help/color.txt <-- read that |
| 11:14.57 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-135-190.student.uu.se) |
| 11:15.06 | Corgan | that's a white item |
| 11:15.08 | Corgan | >:( |
| 11:15.16 | |Pixel| | works fine for me |
| 11:15.45 | |Pixel| | so black background, white font |
| 11:15.50 | Corgan | I use mirc and it works fine |
| 11:16.00 | Corgan | [01:02:43] <04@StompCat> 06[Talon of the Tempest]15 [iLVL 120] [Daggers] [Main Hand] http://wowhead.com/?item=30723 |
| 11:16.01 | Corgan | purple |
| 11:16.05 | Corgan | amirite? |
| 11:16.06 | Grum | that one works |
| 11:16.32 | Corgan | [01:17:20] <04@StompCat> 09[Arakkoa Talon-Axe]15 [iLVL 108] [Thrown] [Thrown] http://wowhead.com/?item=28540 |
| 11:16.34 | Corgan | green |
| 11:16.46 | ramoz | works fine in terminal here aswell |
| 11:17.00 | Corgan | [01:17:48] <04@StompCat> 14[Soft Patch of Fur]15 [iLVL 1] [Junk] http://wowhead.com/?item=3402 |
| 11:17.01 | Corgan | grey |
| 11:17.13 | *** join/#wowace Legorol (n=legorol@stud-nat-blk12.trin.cam.ac.uk) |
| 11:17.53 | Corgan | [01:18:39] <04@StompCat> 07[Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian]15 [iLVL 90] [Staves] [Two-Hand] http://wowhead.com/?item=22632 |
| 11:17.57 | Corgan | legendary! |
| 11:18.04 | Grum | stop using the grey plox :) |
| 11:18.07 | Matrix110 | could you stop posting crap nobody wants to read? |
| 11:18.08 | Grum | just use 'regular' ;D |
| 11:18.24 | *** join/#wowace xyu (n=blahblah@c-71-205-176-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 11:18.25 | Grum | and why not just have the brackets have the color instead of the whole name? make em bold! |
| 11:18.37 | nevcairiel | and stop posting |
| 11:18.57 | Corgan | grumpies |
| 11:19.26 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 11:20.13 | Sole | STFU AND DIE! |
| 11:20.19 | Sole | I speek for all |
| 11:20.26 | Sole | IN A FIRE! |
| 11:20.26 | Grum | .. but still talks .. MRUAHAHAHAA |
| 11:20.34 | *** kick/#wowace [Grum!n=folk@ti0004a380-1299.bb.online.no] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 11:20.40 | Sole | lol |
| 11:20.42 | vhaarr | muhaha |
| 11:20.43 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:21.37 | JoshBorke | morning all |
| 11:22.10 | vhaarr | morning |
| 11:22.48 | *** join/#wowace Grum (n=grum@codebase2.xs4all.nl) |
| 11:22.55 | Grum | ey :( |
| 11:23.14 | Shirik|zZz | Corgan: My eyes |
| 11:23.16 | Shirik|zZz | they burn |
| 11:23.27 | vhaarr | Grum: oh lol |
| 11:23.34 | vhaarr | Grum: I meant to kick Corgan |
| 11:23.37 | Corgan | :( |
| 11:23.38 | *** kick/#wowace [Corgan!n=folk@ti0004a380-1299.bb.online.no] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 11:23.39 | *** join/#wowace Corgan (n=nowai@cpe-66-91-0-65.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 11:23.41 | vhaarr | haha |
| 11:23.45 | Grum | kick yourself for making that mistake! |
| 11:23.53 | Shirik|zZz | Please remember not everyone uses "standard" colors... I personally use a black background |
| 11:24.04 | Grum | the least colors the better seriously |
| 11:24.10 | Shirik|zZz | Also autorejoin is against freenode policy |
| 11:24.22 | Shirik|zZz | That's not to insinuate that I don't use it, but it is |
| 11:24.25 | Corgan | o.O |
| 11:24.33 | Corgan | well that's dumb |
| 11:24.34 | Grum | freenode has a lot of ghey policies imho ;D |
| 11:24.46 | Shirik|zZz | iirc it's a network spam thing |
| 11:24.58 | Grum | you werent sleeping! |
| 11:25.05 | Shirik | I lie a lot, get used to it |
| 11:25.13 | Grum | you just lied! |
| 11:25.36 | JoshBorke | but he does lie a lot |
| 11:25.40 | JoshBorke | every night |
| 11:25.43 | Shirik | If I lied about lying then I must have been telling the truth which means I lied |
| 11:25.49 | Shirik | congrats, you just entered an infinite loop |
| 11:25.54 | Shirik | you must now segfault your brain |
| 11:26.04 | Grum | OMG COREDUMp... |
| 11:26.08 | JoshBorke | is that like a stroke? |
| 11:26.16 | Corgan | siezure |
| 11:26.26 | dreamss | heh |
| 11:26.40 | dreamss | the iphone unlocker is rm sh |
| 11:27.12 | dreamss | and kill |
| 11:27.14 | dreamss | lol |
| 11:27.33 | Shirik | and if we want to talk about "ghey" networks let's talk about my fricking school whose netstorage db has been down for 48 hours ow |
| 11:27.38 | Shirik | how the hell am I supposed to get any work done like this |
| 11:30.25 | *** join/#wowace N3cr0m4ncer (n=Necroman@p508A36F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:31.41 | Shirik | I need to find a way to respond to ktm's version query command |
| 11:31.50 | Shirik | That way I can keep using omen without my guild yelling at me that I don't have ktm |
| 11:32.58 | [Ammo] | KTM will not listen to your KTM version query reply if you also send out Threat-1.0 messages |
| 11:33.02 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 11:33.16 | [Ammo] | even if you have both KTM and Omen installed it will say you don't have KTM |
| 11:33.19 | *** join/#wowace Meiun|| (i=xface@h24n2fls31o883.telia.com) |
| 11:33.23 | MoonWolf | in other words |
| 11:33.33 | MoonWolf | ktm will not play nice with the other kids |
| 11:33.46 | [Ammo] | at least that's what I thought was what kenco said/did |
| 11:33.47 | dreamss | aka ktm is a pos |
| 11:34.02 | Shirik | wow |
| 11:34.05 | Shirik | what an ass |
| 11:34.13 | JoshBorke | aw, no ckknight |
| 11:34.18 | Shirik | ok, so I need to hook SendAddonMessage to be really really tricky |
| 11:34.23 | JoshBorke | i noticed he randomly subtracts 10k from his minor version in rock |
| 11:34.35 | Shirik | if I'm in my guild, block any messages from Omen and fake a KTM version reply |
| 11:34.43 | [Ammo] | Shirik: euhm |
| 11:34.45 | [Ammo] | no |
| 11:34.46 | Shirik | haha |
| 11:34.54 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=thomas@vpn-global-dhcp3-050.ethz.ch) |
| 11:34.55 | Shirik | I was wondering what the response would be to that :P |
| 11:35.02 | dreamss | "emulated ktm" option |
| 11:35.03 | dreamss | hehe |
| 11:35.05 | dreamss | emulate |
| 11:35.18 | [Ammo] | if you ever send out Threat messages KTM's of other people will ignore your KTM version reply thinking you're Omen |
| 11:35.30 | MoonWolf | ktm would probably go to trying to see if theer is a threat1.0 lib installed instead. |
| 11:35.37 | Xinhuan | lol ktm |
| 11:35.38 | JoshBorke | Shirik: install KTM and delete all code except version response |
| 11:35.43 | Xinhuan | just boycott it already |
| 11:35.46 | [Ammo] | JoshBorke: still won't work |
| 11:35.49 | Shirik | JoshBorke: we already went over that |
| 11:36.03 | Shirik | problem is with Omen installed KTM will indicate it does not exist |
| 11:36.03 | JoshBorke | i'm sorry shirik, buty ou're not important enough for me to go back and read through |
| 11:36.08 | [Ammo] | basically KTM doesn't trust anyone who also broadcasts Threat-1.0 messages |
| 11:36.09 | dreamss | basicly u gotta change the whole addon |
| 11:36.09 | Shirik | =( |
| 11:36.10 | dreamss | heh |
| 11:36.17 | Adirelle|Work | btw, Threat reply to KTM version query |
| 11:36.25 | [Ammo] | Adirelle|Work: and is ignored by KTM |
| 11:36.26 | Shirik | does it? |
| 11:36.27 | Shirik | I didn't know |
| 11:36.36 | Adirelle|Work | [ammo] kenco added code to do so ? |
| 11:36.36 | dreamss | whats wrong with Threat-1.0 ? heh |
| 11:36.44 | MoonWolf | nothing |
| 11:36.45 | [Ammo] | Adirelle|Work: he did so a long time ago in his 20 beta |
| 11:36.51 | Adirelle|Work | ...* |
| 11:36.54 | MoonWolf | threat-1.0 is doing what it alway's does |
| 11:36.56 | Shirik | christ, you have to be a real dick to do that |
| 11:36.59 | MoonWolf | ktm is being a bad boy |
| 11:37.05 | Matrix110 | Just dont care about threatmeters.... |
| 11:37.06 | MoonWolf | and kenco needs a spanking. |
| 11:37.12 | Shirik | you don't try to generate incompatabilities with other addons |
| 11:37.19 | Adirelle|Work | won't even say what I think about that... |
| 11:37.21 | Shirik | *cough* like disabling VFL forcibly |
| 11:37.21 | charon | MoonWolf: he has a real future at M$... SCNR |
| 11:37.27 | Shirik | whoever did that, I'm still mad at you! |
| 11:37.32 | [Ammo] | well VFL is the devil |
| 11:37.37 | [Ammo] | blatantly |
| 11:37.37 | Shirik | And required for RDX |
| 11:37.39 | dreamss | lol |
| 11:37.46 | MoonWolf | minor detai |
| 11:37.47 | [Ammo] | and those RDX cocksuckers man..... no good word for them! |
| 11:37.48 | Shirik | I'm not going to go rewrite the entire library |
| 11:37.50 | [Ammo] | RDX.cid even worse! |
| 11:37.53 | Shirik | =( |
| 11:38.02 | Shirik | Well, now that I think about it we just did |
| 11:38.07 | dreamss | mod ktm and distro it to guild? :P |
| 11:38.17 | Shirik | Conspiracy doesn't use VFL :) |
| 11:38.31 | MoonWolf | can't we simply torture kenco |
| 11:38.33 | Punkie` | I think kenco's words were that he didn't want his information to be poisoned by threat-1.0 |
| 11:38.45 | MoonWolf | i'll bring the knives |
| 11:38.58 | MoonWolf | then he should simply ignore the threat-1.0 messages |
| 11:39.01 | MoonWolf | theyr tagged. |
| 11:39.18 | MoonWolf | they are* |
| 11:39.37 | snurre | kenco doesnt think. kenco does as kenco wants. |
| 11:39.40 | Xinhuan | well if an addon like KTM doesn't want to play nice, just post so on the UI forums and ppl would boycott it |
| 11:39.52 | ven | kenco said that threat was spreading false information by claiming it was ktm.. so he had to disable it and it's threat's fault |
| 11:39.53 | MoonWolf | you have to much faith in humanity |
| 11:40.03 | MoonWolf | but give it time, you will learn the way's of man soon enough |
| 11:40.46 | Shirik | ven: You know what that means |
| 11:41.03 | Shirik | "Threat-1.0 is doing too well and taking away my consumers, I must find a way to diminish this" |
| 11:41.08 | Shirik | /slander |
| 11:41.08 | [Ammo] | hehe yeah |
| 11:41.12 | JoshBorke | does KTM show that you're using threat? |
| 11:41.13 | [Ammo] | well slandering is easy |
| 11:41.17 | Shirik | it exists in all companies, sadly |
| 11:41.44 | Shirik | "I only have to take 2 Advil instead of 4 Tylenol or 8 Aleve" |
| 11:41.53 | Shirik | substitute any name in any order, they've all been said |
| 11:42.18 | MoonWolf | or you could take 2 advil 4 tylenol AND 8 aleve |
| 11:42.21 | MoonWolf | have a nice trip. |
| 11:42.48 | JoshBorke | i think kenco should show that someone is using Threat instead of KTM |
| 11:42.54 | JoshBorke | then perhaps they wouldn't bitch as much |
| 11:43.06 | MoonWolf | Shirik, i don't know about you but over here its not allowed to badmouth other produts in commercials |
| 11:43.07 | [Ammo] | ofcuorse he doesn't do that |
| 11:43.26 | [Ammo] | he knows people in guilds are usually forced to install 'this and that meter and such and so bossmod' |
| 11:43.35 | Shirik | oh in the US, definitely allowed, so long as you can prove it |
| 11:43.38 | Shirik | And they can |
| 11:43.41 | [Ammo] | letting those people know there's an alternative is bad marketing |
| 11:43.44 | [Ammo] | better to kill it off |
| 11:43.48 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 11:43.52 | Shirik | they just fail to mention that their test is using the "Maximum strength" pill vs the "Low strength" pill |
| 11:43.56 | Shirik | conveniently |
| 11:43.57 | Adirelle|Work | oh... I misunderstood : KTM only ignores version reply... not the whole threat data |
| 11:43.58 | [Ammo] | which reminds me, time to add DBM fuckup code in bigwigs |
| 11:44.10 | Shirik | omg |
| 11:44.17 | Xinhuan | well see, if you publicise the fact that KTM isn't playing nice, guild leaders that force their members to install KTM may switch over |
| 11:44.23 | MoonWolf | and ktm breaking code to threat-1.0 |
| 11:44.23 | Shirik | If you do that for Conspiracy's bossmods too I will never forgive you |
| 11:44.37 | [Ammo] | only 1 person in raid needs to install bigwigs and it'll start sending 'interesting' timerbars for DBM p |
| 11:44.38 | MoonWolf | an titanpanel breaking code to fubar |
| 11:44.47 | MoonWolf | and khaos fuckups in ace |
| 11:44.51 | [Ammo] | Shirik: steal the bigwigs bossmods and I will do the same to you |
| 11:44.55 | JoshBorke | MoonWolf: fubar already fucks up titan ;-P |
| 11:45.00 | [Ammo] | Shirik: :) |
| 11:45.02 | MoonWolf | but not by design |
| 11:45.03 | Shirik | Oh god I learned my lesson about that a long time ago |
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| 11:45.13 | MoonWolf | but because it want to occupy the same space. |
| 11:45.13 | Shirik | I stole something from DBM. It was so horribly off I will never copy a bossmod ever again |
| 11:45.17 | Shirik | I do it from wowwiki and testing |
| 11:45.20 | [Ammo] | Shirik: hehe |
| 11:45.30 | [Ammo] | Shirik: we had a retarded Sapphiron module in BigWigs |
| 11:45.36 | [Ammo] | that did some weirdass checking for flight etc |
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| 11:45.46 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r48615 10NBuffBars/ (NBuffBars.toc locales/deDE.lua): |
| 11:45.46 | CIA-22 | NBuffBars: |
| 11:45.46 | CIA-22 | - Add deDE localisation - thanks Farook and Pusikas |
| 11:45.46 | CIA-22 | - update description in TOC |
| 11:45.46 | [Ammo] | then DBM announced their glorious sapphiron module |
| 11:45.50 | [Ammo] | and guess what checking it did :p |
| 11:45.53 | Shirik | heh |
| 11:46.06 | MoonWolf | hey |
| 11:46.10 | Shirik | Veni wrote Sapphiron a long time ago... I don't even remember what it did but I know it was complex |
| 11:46.14 | Shirik | I never touched it |
| 11:46.17 | MoonWolf | they simply did not want to invent the wheel twice or something. |
| 11:46.18 | Shirik | I only even used it once |
| 11:46.29 | Shirik | [Ammo]: Isn't BigWigs GPL? |
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| 11:46.44 | [Ammo] | could be |
| 11:46.50 | MoonWolf | Shirik, minor detail, don't copy BAD code. |
| 11:46.58 | [Ammo] | and admit copying |
| 11:46.59 | MoonWolf | and certainly don't copy and don't give credit |
| 11:47.06 | [Ammo] | don't say: we wrote it ourselves and this was the best way |
| 11:47.11 | Adirelle|Work | forgive my ignorance, but what DBMS stands for ? |
| 11:47.13 | Shirik | yup |
| 11:47.19 | Shirik | Whenever I copy something I give credit |
| 11:47.21 | [Ammo] | DBM = deadly boss mods |
| 11:47.27 | [Ammo] | the old la vendetta |
| 11:47.29 | Adirelle|Work | thx |
| 11:47.43 | MoonWolf | DBM isn't all that bad. |
| 11:47.44 | Shirik | Though Conspiracy is written from scratch and as of yet I think every line of code is fresh |
| 11:48.00 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r48616 10NBuffBars/NBuffBars.toc: |
| 11:48.00 | CIA-22 | NBuffBars: |
| 11:48.00 | CIA-22 | - set enUS as the default locale, not deDE |
| 11:48.04 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: it's just worse than BigWIgs :) |
| 11:48.08 | [Ammo] | ofcourse my opinion is biased |
| 11:48.15 | MoonWolf | forgiving any subconcious copying ofcourse Shirik |
| 11:48.19 | Adirelle|Work | isn't is that mod who included some weird remote commands, which allowed raid leaders to disconnect other peoples ? |
| 11:48.24 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 11:48.30 | Shirik | MoonWolf: Yeah, but even then I can't think of anything I would have done |
| 11:48.31 | MoonWolf | [ammo] my guild is actually split in half around the issue |
| 11:48.34 | Shirik | I haven't really looked at any other code |
| 11:48.37 | Shirik | aside from RDX's |
| 11:48.49 | Shirik | But I'm not copying RDX either so that's somewhat moot |
| 11:48.58 | MoonWolf | but we are not addon nazi's so meh |
| 11:49.12 | Shirik | Adirelle|Work: Veni's did, yes |
| 11:49.18 | Shirik | We removed that immediately before release |
| 11:49.26 | Shirik | as well as some other invasive stuff |
| 11:49.33 | MoonWolf | Shirik, its not something you can controll and it happens to the best of people, including writer, movie makers, coder, painters, sculpters and anything else pretty much |
| 11:49.45 | Xinhuan | if addons are going to start displaying destructive behavior towards each other, its going to be a addon "dark ages" |
| 11:49.56 | MoonWolf | Xinhuan, welcome to addon dark ages |
| 11:49.59 | Shirik | Xinhuan: It already exists in the real world |
| 11:50.02 | MoonWolf | going on about 3 years now. |
| 11:50.07 | Shirik | And yes, it has |
| 11:50.09 | Xinhuan | well real world ~= addons |
| 11:50.14 | Fisker- | i'm so gonna hurt you [Ammo] |
| 11:50.17 | Shirik | it exists in the addon world too |
| 11:50.21 | Shirik | Take for example, BugSack |
| 11:50.28 | Xinhuan | go on |
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| 11:50.35 | Shirik | Whom decided to destroy VFL about... 6 months ago? |
| 11:50.40 | Fisker- | takes* |
| 11:50.43 | Shirik | Thus entirely disabling RDX whatsoever |
| 11:50.48 | [Ammo] | Shirik: oh?? |
| 11:50.55 | Xinhuan | what did bugsack do? |
| 11:51.13 | Shirik | After I yelled, they fixed it and now it only does something slightly less annoying |
| 11:51.20 | Pheredhel | hi |
| 11:51.21 | Shirik | which is turn seterrorhandler in to a noop |
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| 11:52.01 | Shirik | I would prefer something like what I did in Conspiracy |
| 11:52.29 | MoonWolf | ofcourse you would |
| 11:52.33 | Eggi | why do you use bugsack and vfl? |
| 11:52.35 | Shirik | I took over the error handler but I allowed seterrorhandler to still exist (but Conspiracy's version of it). That way an error handler can coexist with conspiracy, but Conspiracy will catch its own errors regardless |
| 11:52.42 | Shirik | Of course I'm biased |
| 11:52.53 | Shirik | Eggi:Why not? |
| 11:53.05 | Eggi | vfl has its own error handler imo |
| 11:53.16 | Shirik | What if I wanted to use BugSack's? I don't, but what if I did? |
| 11:53.29 | Xinhuan | so i can imagine it ace3 disabling rock and rock disabling ace3 :) |
| 11:53.37 | Shirik | ace3 won't disable rock |
| 11:53.44 | Shirik | the other way around, who knows |
| 11:54.01 | Eggi | why would you... isn't it a bit useless o0 |
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| 11:54.10 | Shirik | Eggi: Don't ask me, ask my users who complained |
| 11:54.22 | MoonWolf | ace has never on purpose or when it can be avoided interfered with other addons. |
| 11:54.26 | Shirik | Well in all fairness, VFL's error handler is a bit... annoying |
| 11:54.42 | Shirik | and it can spam the hell out of your chat log |
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| 12:02.14 | Punkie` | ~lart Industrial |
| 12:02.14 | purl | slaps Industrial upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 12:03.46 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r48617 10CallToArms/ (CTALocalization.lua CallToArms.lua CallToArms.xml): CallToArms: Minimap icon right click to toggle auto lfg. LFx status shown as colored or greyed out minimap icon. |
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| 12:06.05 | Shirik | So, [Ammo] I'm curious of your opinion |
| 12:06.27 | Shirik | do you think this is too invasive? |
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| 12:07.27 | [Ammo] | what would be to invasive? |
| 12:07.55 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r48619 10NBuffBars/ (Constants.lua NBuffBars.lua Options.lua): |
| 12:07.55 | CIA-22 | NBuffBars: |
| 12:07.55 | CIA-22 | - fix many bugs with header colour picking |
| 12:08.03 | Punkie` | he wants to implant an rfid chip into your skull |
| 12:08.28 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/73714 |
| 12:08.32 | Shirik | specifically error handler |
| 12:08.40 | Shirik | s/error handler/highlighted lines/ |
| 12:09.14 | [Ammo] | why would you overrride the errorhandler |
| 12:09.42 | Shirik | My goal is to have Conspiracy catch its own errors while passing everything else along |
| 12:10.07 | Shirik | the current error handler doesn't show that but that's what it would be |
| 12:11.28 | Xinhuan | is that necessary? |
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| 12:12.07 | Shirik | It has its reasons |
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| 12:12.26 | [Ammo] | why not just do something that you have to do with your own errors but also pass em along |
| 12:12.32 | [Ammo] | aka a clean hook |
| 12:12.40 | vhaarr | Shirik: No, mine and funkydudes BW commits are licensed under by-nc-sa 2.5 |
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| 12:13.00 | [Ammo] | oh yeah and funky did most of the bossmods |
| 12:13.01 | Shirik | It would allow for much more elaborate error information. The biggest problem I had in RDX was something like a task that was scheduled and then I get error spam from it |
| 12:13.11 | Shirik | and the information is completely useless |
| 12:13.30 | Shirik | Such as "Attempt to resume a dead coroutine" with an empty stack trace and a line that is completely irrelevant |
| 12:13.51 | [Ammo] | ok, then modify the error and pass it along |
| 12:14.34 | Shirik | well then you have problems with... other error handlers that will remain nameless |
| 12:14.55 | Shirik | that decide that seterrorhandler is no longer necessary and turn it into a noop, and completely remove your error handler |
| 12:14.58 | [Ammo] | it would mean your modified error would end up in swatter or bugsack or whatever |
| 12:15.28 | [Ammo] | I dunno about bugsack or buggrabber or whatever that did that I'm trying to give a proper solution |
| 12:15.53 | Shirik | No I understand :) |
| 12:16.02 | vhaarr | Shirik: Installing BugGrabber is a conscious choice, it's not bundled with any addons. |
| 12:16.13 | vhaarr | Shirik: So nooping seterrorhandler is the right thing to do. |
| 12:16.18 | Shirik | I don't think that's the addon I was thinking of |
| 12:16.22 | vhaarr | alright |
| 12:16.28 | Shirik | but, no, I don't agree with that statement |
| 12:16.31 | [Ammo] | BugGrabber is the bug catcher for BugSack |
| 12:16.53 | vhaarr | whether you agree or not is irrelevant, the case stands |
| 12:17.05 | Shirik | Even if it's a consious choice, users are stupid and furthermore no addon should intentionally break others |
| 12:17.25 | Shirik | unless said addon is being broken by other addons already |
| 12:17.29 | Fisker- | it's a vhaarr! |
| 12:17.47 | Fisker- | noes my vhaarr is evolving |
| 12:17.47 | vhaarr | hey Fisker- |
| 12:17.58 | vhaarr | how so? |
| 12:18.03 | Fisker- | pokemon? |
| 12:18.11 | Shirik | quick hit B! |
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| 12:18.41 | Shirik | Your vhaarr has stopped evolving |
| 12:19.22 | vhaarr | is pokemon like a electronic pet thing? |
| 12:19.35 | nevcairiel | dont tell me you dont know pokemon |
| 12:19.49 | charon | don't tell my anyone would publicly admit they do |
| 12:19.59 | vhaarr | I know the cartoon, because I've worked with kids that watched it |
| 12:20.03 | Fisker- | :D |
| 12:20.05 | Fisker- | lol |
| 12:20.17 | Fisker- | but yeah it's a pet thingy |
| 12:21.21 | charon | (i.e. s/my/me/ and fix the rest as needed) |
| 12:21.40 | Shirik | It started as a GameBoy game |
| 12:21.52 | Shirik | two versions: Red and Blue. I had both, and that was back when... omg |
| 12:22.00 | Fisker- | giev crysis beta plx |
| 12:22.01 | Shirik | When I was in elementary school? Middle school? |
| 12:22.06 | Shirik | holy crap it was that long ago? |
| 12:22.12 | [Ammo] | damn kids |
| 12:22.15 | Fisker- | >& |
| 12:22.16 | Fisker- | :(/ |
| 12:22.29 | [Ammo] | you must have been in diapers when I went to college :p |
| 12:22.32 | Shirik | =( |
| 12:22.36 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_Blue |
| 12:22.36 | Shirik | how old are you? |
| 12:22.39 | [Ammo] | 30 |
| 12:22.40 | Fisker- | Release date(s) JP February 27, 1996 (Aka and Midori Versions) |
| 12:22.41 | Fisker- | :D |
| 12:22.42 | Shirik | I'm 20... |
| 12:23.00 | vhaarr | kids indeed |
| 12:23.03 | Shirik | dear god I was 9 when it was released |
| 12:23.40 | Industrial | ~whalestab Punkie` |
| 12:23.41 | purl | ACTION stabs Punkie` with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 12:23.59 | Recluse | in 96 i was 20, 19 in feb tho |
| 12:24.02 | JoshBorke | Shirik: what are the frameworks? |
| 12:24.09 | Industrial | im 20 now |
| 12:24.09 | Industrial | lol |
| 12:24.11 | JoshBorke | Shirik: would you consider Conspiracy a framework? |
| 12:24.20 | Shirik | JoshBorke: Um |
| 12:24.21 | Industrial | what's Conspiracy? |
| 12:24.21 | Shirik | you can |
| 12:24.27 | Industrial | nm |
| 12:24.35 | JoshBorke | do you plan on people developing a number of mods against it? |
| 12:24.46 | Shirik | if people are interested, yes |
| 12:24.54 | JoshBorke | that's a no |
| 12:24.56 | JoshBorke | ok, thanks :-) |
| 12:25.02 | Shirik | There are already several people who are willing to do so |
| 12:25.09 | Shirik | However I'm not going to go out and ask people to code for it |
| 12:25.23 | Shirik | If it hits off, then likely people will do it |
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| 12:25.38 | Shirik | otherwise it will probably just be how RDX was where the majority of the modules are coded by Cidan and myself |
| 12:25.49 | Recluse | thank god for instant maint today |
| 12:26.01 | Shirik | however we do have some.... interesting modules that are being developed by others at the moment |
| 12:26.04 | Shirik | but I refuse to say more |
| 12:26.22 | Cidan | YOU MEAN THE GIANT PENIS DISPLAY? |
| 12:26.26 | Cidan | Er, shit, was that a secret? |
| 12:26.31 | Shirik | ... |
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| 12:27.18 | Industrial | P E N I S |
| 12:27.30 | Adirelle|Work | I need to screenshot that one |
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| 12:27.45 | Industrial | ;D |
| 12:28.04 | Adirelle|Work | just got back on the channel, first reply I see "P E N I S" oO |
| 12:28.40 | Industrial | cidan apparently has one |
| 12:28.47 | Chompers | or perhaps 2 |
| 12:28.47 | Industrial | and he displays it |
| 12:28.55 | Morgh | Detachable? :o |
| 12:29.01 | Industrial | Cidan: ? |
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| 12:36.16 | Nickenyfiken_ | laugh of today hahaha |
| 12:36.18 | Nickenyfiken_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc |
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| 12:38.23 | Industrial | rofl |
| 12:38.31 | Industrial | sad |
| 12:39.00 | Recluse | LOL |
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| 12:39.53 | Industrial | I hope britney gets to see that |
| 12:39.59 | Industrial | and laughs |
| 12:40.02 | Industrial | ;P |
| 12:41.13 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 12:41.15 | Xinhuan | i saw that today |
| 12:41.19 | Xinhuan | someone linked it on my guild forums |
| 12:41.26 | Xinhuan | its hilarious |
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| 12:42.43 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r48620 10NBuffBars/NBuffBars.lua: |
| 12:42.43 | CIA-22 | NBuffBars: |
| 12:42.43 | CIA-22 | - bugfix: bars not being positioned correctly on profile reset |
| 12:43.09 | krka_ | must be fake |
| 12:47.37 | bindi | its not even funny |
| 12:48.54 | Industrial | I find it funny that people act as if they understand another person, like they are that person |
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| 12:49.44 | Industrial | By the way would it be a good idea to delete all wiki pages without content? |
| 12:49.52 | Industrial | thereby making the links red? |
| 12:49.59 | Industrial | its not fun to browse to empty pages |
| 12:50.03 | kenlyric | and delete the links. |
| 12:50.10 | Industrial | no, the links would stay |
| 12:50.11 | Shirik|AFK | Don't delete the links |
| 12:50.17 | Industrial | they would become red |
| 12:50.20 | Shirik|AFK | Mark the wiki pages for deletion though, yes |
| 12:50.23 | Industrial | eg the page doesn't exist |
| 12:50.25 | Shirik|AFK | well this is how other wikis work |
| 12:50.29 | kenlyric | I don't understand why people link to things that don't exist. |
| 12:50.34 | Industrial | wowace is mediawiki afaik |
| 12:50.35 | Shirik|AFK | So that they can be marked to be made |
| 12:50.44 | Industrial | kenlyric: because wikis are evolgving |
| 12:50.46 | Shirik|AFK | Industrial: I don't know which wiki you're talking about |
| 12:50.55 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ |
| 12:51.02 | Shirik|AFK | kenlyric: Any dead links show up in a report |
| 12:51.05 | Shirik|AFK | so that the pages can be made |
| 12:51.17 | Shirik|AFK | that's why people make links, sometimes without even checking whether or not the page exists |
| 12:51.18 | Nickenyfiken_ | Shirik|AFK: remember you are in #wowace? :-P |
| 12:51.20 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ColaLight |
| 12:51.21 | Industrial | here |
| 12:51.25 | Industrial | this shit is anoying |
| 12:51.27 | kenlyric | stop being sensible |
| 12:51.29 | Shirik|AFK | Nickenyfiken: That's why I thought he was talking abou..... oh |
| 12:51.38 | Shirik|AFK | I thought he said wowwiki when I asked |
| 12:51.42 | Shirik|AFK | I need to go back to sleep |
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| 12:52.07 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons |
| 12:52.15 | Industrial | if it wouldn't not exist, its link on this page would eb red |
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| 12:52.36 | Nickenyfiken_ | I agree |
| 12:52.37 | Industrial | that's good, because ill know it has no documentation |
| 12:52.43 | Nickenyfiken_ | Who is responsible for the wiki? |
| 12:52.49 | Industrial | everyone |
| 12:53.38 | Industrial | hm wait |
| 12:53.40 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Unclaimed_Addon_Pages |
| 12:53.41 | Nickenyfiken_ | Or someone do the auto thingie on all addon wiki pages |
| 12:53.53 | Nickenyfiken_ | so they get basic info from the tocs |
| 12:53.53 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Pages_needing_attention |
| 12:53.59 | Industrial | yeah |
| 12:54.08 | Industrial | meh ;\ |
| 12:54.47 | Nickenyfiken_ | Hmm not claimed |
| 12:54.53 | Industrial | the thing is |
| 12:55.02 | Industrial | I'd bug everyone to death if there was a good means to do so |
| 12:55.14 | Industrial | to document their shit |
| 12:55.18 | Nickenyfiken_ | "If this addon is your work, please update this page and remove the line {{Unclaimed Addon Page}} at the top of the page to remove this box and the link to" |
| 12:55.24 | Industrial | but the SVN is big, I have no idea how to contact authors :P |
| 12:55.27 | Nickenyfiken_ | Can be hard to get all devs to do that |
| 12:55.32 | Industrial | yeah |
| 12:56.04 | Industrial | would be easier if this was embedded in e.g. the addon's page on wowace - with aa download link to the zip etc :P |
| 12:56.21 | Industrial | I think/nag too much. |
| 12:56.39 | Nickenyfiken_ | ^^ |
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| 13:07.29 | Morgh | Industrial: What're you watching? |
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| 13:10.57 | Industrial | gundam wing, seed, seed destiny and evolve, fate stay night, onegai teacher, rozen maiden, texhnolyze, .//hack and death note |
| 13:11.04 | Industrial | :p |
| 13:11.21 | kenlyric | all at once? impressive. |
| 13:11.41 | Industrial | noes |
| 13:11.45 | Industrial | fate stey night atm |
| 13:11.46 | [dRaCo] | 10 monitors and you're good to go. |
| 13:11.46 | Industrial | 08 |
| 13:13.19 | Morgh | Onegai Teacher is so cute it hurts :o |
| 13:14.20 | Morgh | Only romantic series so far that's really captivated me, though they could easily have ditched the "middle-story" with the "little girl" and her odd sleeping habits :P |
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| 13:16.45 | Industrial | try Hajime no Ippo |
| 13:16.52 | Industrial | its about boxing |
| 13:17.50 | Industrial | when Ippo first enters the shool I guarantee you'll shit your pants to what happens |
| 13:18.12 | Industrial | well I did anyway |
| 13:18.17 | Megalon | ippo gets tentaclefucked! |
| 13:19.52 | Azure | or tentacleraped? |
| 13:20.06 | Saladin | yeah, most peopel tend to get raped, not cuddled with, by those |
| 13:20.12 | Saladin | "oh yes, more tentacles" |
| 13:20.16 | Saladin | not likely to happen |
| 13:20.23 | Azure | who knows ;) |
| 13:24.17 | Morgh | Industrial: Check out Kaze no Stigma. New series I'm enjoying quite alot :) |
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| 13:24.54 | bindi | any way to get more bars in bartender? :x |
| 13:24.57 | bindi | more then 10 |
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| 13:25.19 | nevcairiel | no way |
| 13:25.24 | Xinhuan | you mean 10 isn't enough? |
| 13:25.25 | nevcairiel | use another bar mod |
| 13:25.37 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 13:25.41 | bindi | not rlly |
| 13:26.07 | nevcairiel | bartender never did, and prolly never will, allow that .) |
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| 13:26.23 | [dRaCo] | 10 bars... 120 buttons... what else do you need? |
| 13:26.29 | Xinhuan | considering there's less than 120 castable spells, dont' see why you'll need that many even |
| 13:26.52 | nevcairiel | people generally need shorter bars, and alot of those |
| 13:27.00 | nevcairiel | like 20 6 button bars |
| 13:27.04 | nevcairiel | for "better" layout |
| 13:27.07 | nevcairiel | but not with me! |
| 13:27.10 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 13:27.11 | Xinhuan | or you can just hide the bars |
| 13:27.18 | Xinhuan | after you keybind them |
| 13:27.20 | Xinhuan | and forget about them |
| 13:28.15 | charon | or you can even bind some of the hidden stuff through SpellBinder, which frees up action buttons for more interesting things |
| 13:28.43 | bindi | well, i loose ehm about 5 bars on forms (tauren, cat, bear, moonkin, tree) |
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| 13:28.47 | Xinhuan | yah you don't even need a button to bind a key to a spell |
| 13:28.50 | bindi | that might be an idea |
| 13:29.12 | nevcairiel | you use a special tree bar? |
| 13:29.13 | [dRaCo] | 5 bars for 5 buttons? o0 |
| 13:29.17 | nevcairiel | i think thats silly :) |
| 13:29.42 | Xinhuan | well first, you aren't actually going to be in moonkin or tree form at the same time |
| 13:29.48 | Xinhuan | unless you respec daily |
| 13:29.56 | nevcairiel | i heal in caster form quite alot, because i need to be able to decurse or so |
| 13:29.57 | Xinhuan | so rebind your keys on respec |
| 13:30.00 | nevcairiel | and i dont wan different bars then |
| 13:30.03 | nevcairiel | but thats just me! |
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| 13:31.27 | charon | technically you might lose 5 though: caster, cat, prowl, bear, moonkin/tree |
| 13:31.55 | charon | for certain values of "lose". also, a few [stealthed] (?) macros will fix that. |
| 13:31.58 | nevcairiel | you dont lose the caster bar |
| 13:32.05 | nevcairiel | everyone uses that! |
| 13:32.31 | Xinhuan | even so, that's only 5 bars used |
| 13:32.42 | charon | i'm not complaining :) |
| 13:32.42 | Xinhuan | you still have 5 left |
| 13:32.42 | charon | bartender works perfectly for me |
| 13:32.58 | Xinhuan | to do whatever you want and 5 is plenty! |
| 13:33.08 | Xinhuan | or if you want ultimatelt flexibility, you can get FlexBar2 |
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| 13:33.21 | charon | i was just backing up his earlier 5 forms bars statement. even so, if you don't like them, just disable that form's shapeshifting switch or whatever |
| 13:33.21 | Hjalte | Xinhuan, not if you want to have bars with 2 buttons, emergency bars and so on |
| 13:33.32 | Xinhuan | and make as many as 1000 buttons and position each one individually |
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| 13:33.51 | Xinhuan | flexbar2 buttons don't even use any of the default 120 |
| 13:34.01 | Xinhuan | so you can have as many as you want |
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| 13:35.31 | charon | tbh i have one "spare" bar even... i have a bartender bar with a single huge button mapped to M4 (thumb button), and a macro bound to shift-m4 that toggles show/hide... quite nice for quest items, boss-specific macros etc |
| 13:35.53 | charon | except when i fly over skettis, hit M4 to bomb and /y TAINTED CORE TO <No target>! |
| 13:36.09 | bindi | :P |
| 13:36.17 | Xinhuan | /chuckle |
| 13:36.18 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:36.56 | nevcairiel | you yell that? |
| 13:37.01 | nevcairiel | we whisper that to the target |
| 13:37.05 | nevcairiel | and yell in voice |
| 13:37.21 | Xinhuan | we don't use macros. we just use pure voice chat |
| 13:37.32 | nevcairiel | we prolly wouldnt need them either anymore |
| 13:37.49 | charon | i think we'll work on cutting down the spam when we've finally succeeded in cutting down _vashj_ |
| 13:37.50 | Xinhuan | macros are "bad" sometimes because you could attempt to throw the core to someone, but he's out of LOS or range |
| 13:37.54 | Xinhuan | and he thinks he has the core |
| 13:38.06 | Xinhuan | and everything starts to mess up when ppl reach to that yell or PM |
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| 13:45.38 | Hjalte | I recommended someone an addon yesterday, that was able to hide stuff on your UI whether you were out of combat or not - and it's not NCHide. Any ideas? |
| 13:46.21 | [dRaCo] | Hjalte: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7528-OnScreen.html |
| 13:46.42 | Hjalte | [dRaCo], yeah, that's it. |
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| 13:50.29 | Tinyboom | is there any ace'd raid signup tools |
| 13:50.31 | Tinyboom | ? |
| 13:50.37 | mikma | has anyone here seen the "taint" issue with targetframe lately? What happens is when the target dies, the target gains 5% life in the unitframe and gets a Star as raidicon |
| 13:51.10 | Industrial | wohaaaaaaa |
| 13:51.14 | Xinhuan | don't use default frames sorry |
| 13:51.19 | Industrial | onegai teacher is cuuuuuuute |
| 13:56.17 | kenlyric | anime: bringing out the inner pedo in all of us. |
| 13:56.50 | Chompers | or inner tentacle |
| 13:57.17 | mikma | pedobear approves |
| 13:57.38 | mikma | d__(O_o)__b |
| 13:57.44 | mikma | two thumbs up |
| 13:57.51 | Grum | he has no holes to put stuff in! |
| 13:59.51 | Wobin_ | Hello Kitty has no mouth |
| 13:59.59 | Wobin_ | But that's okay, cause cocaine goes up the nose |
| 14:00.15 | Grum | but i only have a stick |
| 14:01.39 | mikma | Wobin_: xD |
| 14:01.39 | Industrial | wtf you people are sick bastards |
| 14:01.46 | Industrial | damn |
| 14:01.58 | Pkekyo|zZz | lmao |
| 14:01.59 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.07 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 14:02.07 | Industrial | yeah so, im a kid |
| 14:02.20 | Industrial | you have scarred my innocent mind. |
| 14:02.22 | Pkekyo | anime isn't for kids |
| 14:02.25 | Megalon | who does not appreciate |
| 14:02.32 | Megalon | young female schoolgirls |
| 14:02.36 | Megalon | getting tentacleraped |
| 14:02.44 | Pkekyo | <--- that would be me |
| 14:02.49 | Wobin_ | ahaha |
| 14:02.52 | Industrial | Megalon: actually it's a cute teacher |
| 14:02.55 | Wobin_ | You don't have an innocent mind |
| 14:02.58 | Wobin_ | if you watch anime |
| 14:02.59 | Industrial | ^_________________^ |
| 14:03.07 | Wobin_ | The japanese are living proof of that |
| 14:03.08 | Pkekyo | when you pop tentacles, it just gets a bit too kinky... |
| 14:03.08 | Industrial | ok I don't :p |
| 14:03.19 | Pkekyo | I never thought I'd say the words 'too kinky' :( |
| 14:03.23 | Megalon | Industrial: as long as it gets tentacleraped it doesn't matter! |
| 14:03.35 | Industrial | no, we shall have no rape! |
| 14:03.39 | Industrial | nor tentacles |
| 14:03.41 | Megalon | ? :( |
| 14:03.49 | Megalon | but... it's ... japanese |
| 14:03.56 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.57 | Megalon | their have to be tentacles |
| 14:04.00 | Industrial | cuddlez or gtfo. |
| 14:04.01 | Pkekyo | nay for tentacles, yay for semi-consentual sex! |
| 14:04.07 | Wobin_ | It's in the charter or something |
| 14:04.14 | [Ammo] | cartoon sucks |
| 14:04.17 | Megalon | in the conventions of geneva! |
| 14:04.21 | [Ammo] | Battle Royale and Ichi the Killer is where it's at |
| 14:04.22 | Industrial | zomg its not a cartooN! |
| 14:04.31 | Pkekyo | tbh, I think the term 'rape' is too negative.... let's call it 'Surprise Sex' instead! |
| 14:04.55 | Megalon | i think even the uno |
| 14:05.01 | Megalon | states the right of man |
| 14:05.07 | Megalon | of having catoons with tentacles |
| 14:05.10 | Silviu- | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=45561 |
| 14:05.11 | Silviu- | lol |
| 14:05.20 | Pkekyo | tentaclerape in wow? O.o |
| 14:05.31 | Megalon | ni hao |
| 14:05.33 | Megalon | from madcow |
| 14:05.34 | Pkekyo | now THAT is twisted |
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| 14:05.56 | Megalon | /use Vanquished Tentacle of C'Thun |
| 14:05.57 | Megalon | and bam |
| 14:06.06 | Megalon | wow is tentaclized |
| 14:07.20 | Silviu- | Cute :D |
| 14:09.24 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 14:09.33 | Wobin_ | the scansions about as good as the original song |
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| 14:15.03 | Wobin_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfgbWwhmVbM |
| 14:15.27 | mikma | smack that |
| 14:16.28 | charon | hmm. wtb that svn account i requested earlier today :( |
| 14:16.41 | charon | and my university spamflags all wiki mail. fail. |
| 14:17.50 | Chompers | would anyone here know something about laptop drivers? |
| 14:18.29 | charon | Chompers: you could start with: what OS? what kind of laptop? :) |
| 14:18.30 | Chompers | i think this laptop is locked to specific drivers only, are there any unoffical ones out there? |
| 14:18.38 | Chompers | Windows XP |
| 14:18.50 | Chompers | geforce go 7300 |
| 14:19.19 | Hjalte | Chompers, i once tried to update the graphics card drivers on my dell laptop.. I had to do a system restore :\ |
| 14:20.18 | Chompers | i used a modified ini file last time, wondered if there were any premade solutions |
| 14:20.47 | charon | afraid i can't help, except that i do know ATI drivers refuse to install on XP on my system, have to get the "vendor specific" blah etc |
| 14:20.51 | baer_ | anyone got an alternative for GEM? |
| 14:21.17 | baer_ | i'm searching an addon to manage raid planning ingame. |
| 14:22.33 | sb | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.02 | baer_ | sb: actually we do it in a eqdkp outside the game. |
| 14:23.14 | sb | so? :) |
| 14:23.23 | baer_ | unfortunately most players forget to subscribe to the raids. |
| 14:23.24 | baer_ | :-/ |
| 14:23.26 | sb | mahh |
| 14:23.29 | sb | hehe |
| 14:23.38 | baer_ | well, yeah, that sucks :) |
| 14:23.56 | sb | mh - i know, we used to have those problems |
| 14:24.14 | charon | baer_: we have minus dkp for those cases. _every_ raid you forget. seems to work. |
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| 14:25.31 | baer_ | charon: main problem is that we lack players. |
| 14:25.43 | baer_ | EU-Todeswache is pretty empty (at least alliance) |
| 14:26.17 | baer_ | in most cases we do not find an alternative player to the one thrown out of the raid. |
| 14:27.20 | sb | mhh - server transfer! :p |
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| 14:29.20 | baer_ | ^^ |
| 14:29.27 | baer_ | tooo expensive. :) |
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| 14:30.27 | charon | baer_: to be perfectly honest that situation would scare me. when i was co-leader of a raid, making concessions to players just so they would stay never turned out for the better |
| 14:30.32 | RaydenUni | latest wowinsider interface is terrible |
| 14:30.33 | charon | then again, fire, burnt child, and all that |
| 14:30.41 | charon | (i'm no longer leading anything and it's quite relaxing) |
| 14:30.51 | kenlyric | oh, it has an interface? |
| 14:31.01 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/11/reader-ui-of-the-week-nikkita/ |
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| 14:31.08 | baer_ | charon: well, i can understand, what you mean :) |
| 14:31.10 | RaydenUni | UI of the week |
| 14:31.11 | kenlyric | oh, i see what you mean. |
| 14:31.13 | phyber | ~seen eraslin |
| 14:31.15 | purl | eraslin <n=dneilson@dsl-stra-66-18-202-243-edm.nucleus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 239d 20h 36m 31s ago, saying: 'I could, this is true. But, as we know, a lot of people don't read ;)'. |
| 14:31.23 | phyber | :/ |
| 14:32.25 | RaydenUni | its cluttered all to hell |
| 14:32.33 | RaydenUni | i'm really liking mine now that i have a widescreen |
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| 14:36.41 | Chompers | !c eu kul tiras laef |
| 14:36.43 | ThraeBot | Chompers: Laef, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (22/39/0). 6277 HP; 5263 Mana; 106 mana regen; 27 mp5; 4393 Armour; 1117 AP; 154.900 Melee DPS; 12.82% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 1220 RAP; 218.40 Ranged DPS; 17.86% ranged crit; 30 ranged hit; 9.87% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1363 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2b7qxg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36hg5f ][ Updated: Tue Sep 11 10:49:07 2007 ]] |
| 14:36.55 | Chompers | this guy fails so hard |
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| 14:38.45 | RaydenUni | woot melee dps |
| 14:39.00 | RaydenUni | i've never played a hunter so i have no idea what's wrong with his setup |
| 14:39.03 | [dRaCo] | melee huntards! |
| 14:41.20 | Dell_Tech | wow, my lock has 20% crit & he's only 66 |
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| 14:41.37 | RaydenUni | locks don't use crit too much do they? |
| 14:41.46 | RaydenUni | or do they have quite a few crittable spells? |
| 14:41.53 | RaydenUni | i'm just guessing they are similar to spriests |
| 14:41.59 | [dRaCo] | depends |
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| 14:42.10 | [dRaCo] | affliction locks dont need crit that much |
| 14:42.27 | [dRaCo] | as destro you want crit as much as any other caster (aka mage) |
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| 14:43.15 | RaydenUni | from the theorycraft i've read, it seems like speccing crit is something to do after you've done everything else |
| 14:43.28 | [dRaCo] | depends on your spec |
| 14:43.38 | RaydenUni | for only damage |
| 14:43.46 | RaydenUni | if you get bonuses when you crit then its another matter |
| 14:44.45 | RaydenUni | crit talents only give like +1% dmg maybe |
| 14:44.50 | Dell_Tech | i have a affliction lock, mostly +damage & +stamina gear |
| 14:45.43 | RaydenUni | skettis have caused me to forever hate all things aviary |
| 14:46.01 | durcyn | those kalliri are pure evil |
| 14:46.02 | Dell_Tech | but i have an alternate outfit I can go into crit/dmg mode when I want to see big damage numbers :0 |
| 14:46.21 | RaydenUni | crits are fun |
| 14:46.32 | RaydenUni | but bigger crits don't increase overall dps as much as people think they do |
| 14:46.46 | Dell_Tech | shaman require crits to keep up with other dps classes |
| 14:47.23 | Punkie` | obviously if you have a flurry type ability crit is a good stat |
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| 14:48.07 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 14:48.12 | Fisker- | because i'm sick as hell |
| 14:49.02 | [dRaCo] | as shadow destro you want crit... something like 0/21/rest --> crit is your friend |
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| 14:49.11 | Punkie` | it's all that acid i've been putting in your food Fisker- |
| 14:49.33 | Pkekyo | RaydenUnihttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/11/reader-ui-of-the-week-nikkita/ |
| 14:49.37 | Fisker- | tell your mother that i hated her |
| 14:49.58 | Pkekyo | how the flying fuck can something like that make 'ui of the week'? slim competition? |
| 14:50.20 | Fisker- | it's wowinsider.com |
| 14:50.31 | Fisker- | failure of the week for a billion years |
| 14:50.32 | RaydenUni | its not really that they pick the best i don't think |
| 14:50.42 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: I can tell |
| 14:50.50 | Pkekyo | that UI is crappier than crap itself |
| 14:50.52 | Fisker- | lol that ui is shitty as hell |
| 14:51.09 | Punkie` | Fisker-: you should look at your UI |
| 14:51.13 | Punkie` | that sucks too! |
| 14:51.18 | Fisker- | not as much |
| 14:51.18 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 14:51.21 | bindi | hmm, any way i can show/hide a chatframe with a click on fubar or something? |
| 14:51.32 | Fisker- | how the fuck can he/her raid? |
| 14:51.33 | Pkekyo | "hmm, let's bloat the UI with the biggest addons we can find and use completely different bar textures for all the addons" |
| 14:51.40 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 14:51.54 | Fisker- | could atleast save a bar as well |
| 14:51.57 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 14:51.58 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 795 messages. Is idling for 7h 42m 20s, last said: 'or maybe im just drunk'. |
| 14:51.59 | Pkekyo | art3mis: ping? |
| 14:52.27 | RaydenUni | i think that person doesn't combat with EVERYTHING up |
| 14:52.29 | RaydenUni | but still |
| 14:52.49 | Fisker- | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/09/nik1.jpg <-internet lulz machine |
| 14:53.02 | Fisker- | he/she only barely has spots for the buffs |
| 14:53.28 | Punkie` | btw that UI should be called KeyholeUI |
| 14:53.34 | Fisker- | ya lol |
| 14:54.06 | Pkekyo | incredible how someone can make such a complex UI where -NOTHING- matches anything else what_so_ever |
| 14:54.12 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:54.17 | Fisker- | WHAT ABOUT A VIEWPORT DAMNIT |
| 14:54.47 | baer_ | how uptodate is http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Raiding_with_Ace_AddOns? |
| 14:54.48 | [Ammo] | looks remarkebly like my UI |
| 14:54.49 | sb | haha you dont have viewport |
| 14:55.01 | [Ammo] | then again I'm a warlock, I don't need to see my target to DoT em |
| 14:55.10 | [Ammo] | 'look dots with my eyes closed' |
| 14:55.15 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: your ui sucks yes |
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| 14:55.39 | Industrial | [Ammo]: gief ui url lalz |
| 14:55.47 | Fisker- | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/11/reader-ui-of-the-week-nikkita/2#c7420026 |
| 14:55.49 | [Ammo] | I dunno |
| 14:55.52 | [Ammo] | I might have some ancient UI's |
| 14:55.57 | [Ammo] | no recent pix I think |
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| 14:56.12 | kenlyric | those buff bars are awesome. |
| 14:56.32 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.msg136454#msg136454 |
| 14:56.35 | Industrial | my latest |
| 14:56.35 | sb | you mean huge? :P |
| 14:57.11 | Punkie` | Industrial: your boots are broken |
| 14:57.18 | sb | haha you dont have minimap :/ |
| 14:57.25 | Industrial | Punkie`: fo! |
| 14:57.29 | Industrial | were! |
| 14:57.30 | Punkie` | :D |
| 14:57.37 | Industrial | sb; er, check second pic |
| 14:57.43 | sb | mhyes :p |
| 14:58.57 | Industrial | <3 dash |
| 14:59.16 | Industrial | I still dislike that the default playerframe doesn't have buffs |
| 14:59.27 | Industrial | but im too lazy to code them in =D |
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| 14:59.57 | Fisker- | i dislike you! |
| 15:00.40 | kenlyric | http://media.abels.us/games/wow/UI_2007-09-06_prettiest.jpg I tried to come up with a new ui design paradigm, but I failed and stuck with what I've always done.f |
| 15:00.53 | kenlyric | my eye just expects things to be in a certain place, and it's too much work to retrain it. |
| 15:01.12 | [Ammo] | I have the same problenm |
| 15:01.19 | [Ammo] | althought my eye is used to a center bottom minimap now |
| 15:01.19 | Industrial | Fisker-: well good, because I don't want you to think I'm a person you'd like! |
| 15:01.39 | Industrial | oh I have that too |
| 15:01.43 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_091107_110140.jpg |
| 15:01.45 | Industrial | but you just have to do it for a while |
| 15:01.45 | RaydenUni | my current UI |
| 15:01.49 | kenlyric | my issue is the buffbars above each unit frame, so they can't just be on top of each other in a center line. |
| 15:01.52 | Industrial | eg the unitframes in the center |
| 15:01.56 | Industrial | its a lot easier on your eyes |
| 15:02.15 | Industrial | I'd prefer my unitframes stacked |
| 15:02.17 | kenlyric | it'd be easier if I didn't have to make a 9-in-1 UI. |
| 15:02.19 | Industrial | like idInterface had |
| 15:02.21 | Industrial | in 1.12 |
| 15:02.24 | RaydenUni | hmm, i forgot to display my classtimer bars in that shot |
| 15:02.29 | RaydenUni | they are above each frame |
| 15:02.35 | kenlyric | I finally got rid of classtimers. |
| 15:02.42 | Industrial | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full4366.jpg |
| 15:02.46 | RaydenUni | with? |
| 15:02.49 | Pkekyo | people use too many bar textures and colours in one UI :< |
| 15:02.51 | kenlyric | ebb |
| 15:02.53 | [Ammo] | I have: |
| 15:02.54 | [Ammo] | [ target ] [ ToT ] |
| 15:02.55 | [Ammo] | [ myself ] [ my pet ] |
| 15:02.57 | Industrial | unfortunately blizzard fucked that over with 2.0 :| |
| 15:03.00 | kenlyric | have ebbs for target and pet now. |
| 15:03.23 | Industrial | ebbs? |
| 15:03.24 | Pkekyo | <--- doesn't have a single unitframe except raid/party :) |
| 15:03.26 | kenlyric | since classtimers/quartz wouldn't show buffs with no time. |
| 15:03.35 | kenlyric | elk buff bars. The thing on the right of your UI. |
| 15:03.42 | kenlyric | has a ton of options for filtering. |
| 15:03.43 | Industrial | Pkekyo: you never engage 1v1 combat then? |
| 15:03.56 | Pkekyo | Industrial: yes I do |
| 15:03.56 | Matrix110 | i guess hes a healer |
| 15:04.08 | Industrial | in* |
| 15:04.19 | RaydenUni | classtimer shows time i'm pretty sure |
| 15:04.26 | RaydenUni | the bar drains in any case |
| 15:04.32 | Pkekyo | Industrial: every day :) |
| 15:04.32 | kenlyric | it doesn't show timeless buffs/debuffs. |
| 15:04.49 | kenlyric | ie, it can't be used as an aura replacement. |
| 15:04.54 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: like what? |
| 15:05.00 | RaydenUni | i have EBB for that |
| 15:05.19 | Pkekyo | why do you need to track your aura? |
| 15:05.27 | charon | http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_082907_002230.jpg (not entirely up to date, can't upload right now) |
| 15:05.28 | RaydenUni | i use classtimer so i know when i need to refresh SWP and stuff |
| 15:05.31 | kenlyric | not my aura. |
| 15:05.33 | kenlyric | my target. |
| 15:05.41 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo because every 3 hits shadowguard disappears and thats bad |
| 15:05.43 | kenlyric | I use ebbs for that. |
| 15:05.55 | RaydenUni | so do i |
| 15:05.55 | Fisker- | huds are outdated btw |
| 15:05.57 | cryogen | i should screenshot my new non ace ui |
| 15:05.59 | cryogen | youd all hate it :D |
| 15:06.02 | Industrial | you check your health.. |
| 15:06.04 | Industrial | its like swimming |
| 15:06.06 | RaydenUni | Fisker- by what? |
| 15:06.07 | Industrial | to NOT DIE |
| 15:06.28 | kenlyric | classtimers is nothing more than a minor form of EBB that has some of the filtering built in. |
| 15:06.31 | RaydenUni | no one said anything about my UI :'( |
| 15:06.33 | Fisker- | by themselves |
| 15:06.35 | Fisker- | HUDS SUCK |
| 15:06.36 | Pkekyo | Industrial: what's like swimming? |
| 15:06.46 | Industrial | Pkekyo: checking your health |
| 15:06.47 | RaydenUni | can EBB show buffs on target? |
| 15:06.47 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:06.48 | kenlyric | but sometimes a target has a buff/debuff I want to see that is not a class buff/debuff. |
| 15:06.52 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: yes. |
| 15:07.01 | kenlyric | you can make a new group and put it right on top of the target. |
| 15:07.08 | Industrial | Pkekyo: how can you know you are not dieing without seeing hoemuch health you have? |
| 15:07.13 | [Ammo] | anyone use PT3Bar and got some configs to share? |
| 15:07.19 | [Ammo] | I need inspiration :) |
| 15:07.27 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: too many different colours :< well done, using the same texture on all bars! |
| 15:07.34 | Pkekyo | Industrial: I see how much health I have...hud = win |
| 15:07.35 | RaydenUni | i like otravi |
| 15:07.49 | Industrial | RaydenUni: otravi == haste |
| 15:07.54 | Pkekyo | I used to use Otravi for EVERYTHING...now I'm using Smooth :) |
| 15:07.57 | kenlyric | I need an in-action UI shot. |
| 15:08.08 | |Stan| | smoothv2 here |
| 15:08.10 | kenlyric | I just like showing off my blood elf on kodo. |
| 15:08.18 | Pkekyo | http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg <--- did a few improvements since, but you get the general idea... |
| 15:08.44 | RaydenUni | does it show a vertical life bar in combat? |
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| 15:08.47 | |Stan| | Pkekyo: use cyCircled |
| 15:08.49 | kenlyric | i've recently thought about bringing the combat log from hiding, but I don't know where to put it. |
| 15:08.53 | Industrial | I don't use a combatlog :P never have |
| 15:09.04 | Pkekyo | |Stan|: I am using CyCircled... |
| 15:09.09 | |Stan| | uuh |
| 15:09.11 | RaydenUni | top left, nothing else goes in top left |
| 15:09.13 | |Stan| | use a better skin then :P |
| 15:09.19 | Pkekyo | no, the skin = win |
| 15:09.34 | |Stan| | noes |
| 15:09.41 | Pkekyo | don't want all that glossy, flashy shit...it's distracting... actionbars aren't supposed to be noticed |
| 15:09.56 | charon | Pkekyo: how big is your screen? (just wondering) |
| 15:10.01 | RaydenUni | action bars are mostly cooldown timers for me... |
| 15:10.12 | Pkekyo | charon: 17" |
| 15:10.14 | Pkekyo | why? |
| 15:10.39 | RaydenUni | i need to take a shower and eat... all in a half hour |
| 15:10.41 | RaydenUni | ugh |
| 15:10.44 | Pkekyo | gl hf |
| 15:10.51 | Pkekyo | try not to fall on your ass in the shower |
| 15:10.56 | RaydenUni | i'm just tutoring today |
| 15:10.58 | RaydenUni | maybe no shower |
| 15:10.59 | Pkekyo | but if you do, let us know so we can laugh at you :) |
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| 15:11.08 | charon | Pkekyo: most UI screenshots look way too tiny to work with on my 1400x1050 14.1" laptop |
| 15:11.17 | charon | i imagine mine looks huge and unwieldy |
| 15:11.46 | Pkekyo | charon: look too tiny? would imagine they'd look too -big-? |
| 15:12.13 | cryogen | 1400x1050 on 14" must have insanely small text |
| 15:12.28 | Pkekyo | cryogen: glasses ftw |
| 15:12.36 | Pkekyo | using a telescope to read his chat ^^ |
| 15:12.55 | cryogen | my laptop does 1280x720 or something similar |
| 15:12.57 | charon | Pkekyo: how so? i mean, when i open them they don't even reach all across the screen which in turn is a lot smaller than yours. so the bars look unclickably small etc |
| 15:12.59 | Codayus | 22" @ 1680x1050 = win |
| 15:13.00 | cryogen | and thats just right for me :) |
| 15:13.06 | RaydenUni | i'm nearsighted, so i can't put my monitor too far away |
| 15:13.11 | RaydenUni | but high res doesn't bother me |
| 15:13.32 | cryogen | RaydenUni: you're probably short sighted *because* of your monitor :D |
| 15:13.40 | Pkekyo | charon: goddamnit, learn to use the same bar textures on all addons :P |
| 15:13.40 | Pkekyo | also: don't you view the pics in full resolution? |
| 15:13.51 | Pkekyo | s/resolution/size/ |
| 15:13.53 | RaydenUni | cryogen my mom is similarly nearsighted |
| 15:13.55 | RaydenUni | its genetic |
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| 15:14.04 | cryogen | probably doesnt help though |
| 15:14.13 | sb | hm |
| 15:14.31 | sb | (2*20") @3200x1200 <3 |
| 15:15.00 | charon | Pkekyo: i'm trying to have one bar texture for all player frames (otravi), and another for all status displays (bantobar?) but that concept failed because i couldn't read the Omen pullout meter in the corner of my eye so i switched to a 3rd there. sorry. |
| 15:15.18 | RaydenUni | do i view pics in full res? |
| 15:15.34 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: referring to charon |
| 15:15.34 | nevcairiel | i use bantobar everywhere, except my sRaidFrames, smooth there |
| 15:15.40 | charon | i think he meant me. usually i'm too lazy. |
| 15:15.42 | RaydenUni | charon your browser is probably shrinking them to make them fit |
| 15:15.43 | Pkekyo | charon: that concept was MAJOR fail! use otravi on everything |
| 15:15.52 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_091107_110140.jpg <-- 1680x1050 does that fit? |
| 15:16.02 | charon | they're small anyway because of the considerably smaller screen |
| 15:16.26 | Pkekyo | not if you view in full size :P |
| 15:16.37 | Pkekyo | - which you apparently don't :< |
| 15:16.58 | |Stan| | wtf |
| 15:17.03 | charon | to be honest i have never bothered to figure out _how_ i get konqy to do that |
| 15:17.07 | |Stan| | how many target target target frames does he have |
| 15:17.28 | charon | Pkekyo: how come you're so sure about MAJOR? i mean i've tried the "all the same" look... |
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| 15:17.47 | Fisker- | nananana Punkie` |
| 15:17.55 | Pkekyo | |Stan|: t, tt, ttt, tttt and self, I'd imagine :P |
| 15:18.11 | Pkekyo | charon: mainly from an aesthitical point of view...it's fugly |
| 15:18.38 | |Stan| | insane :p |
| 15:18.39 | charon | then again i try to have a functional UI, not a pretty one |
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| 15:18.50 | Pkekyo | |Stan|: agreed |
| 15:18.57 | Punkie` | what Fisker-! |
| 15:19.09 | charon | |Stan|: i'd guess self, T, ToT, Focus, ToFocus |
| 15:19.15 | charon | but who knows |
| 15:19.29 | Pkekyo | charon: make a functional one that looks good too :P |
| 15:19.47 | charon | Pkekyo: see, now we're down to minor fail. |
| 15:19.51 | Punkie` | RaydenUni: you actually need almost 100MiB of addon usage? :o |
| 15:20.03 | Pkekyo | hmm, methinks I ought to go to bed soon |
| 15:20.27 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: it've got to be wrong |
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| 15:21.17 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo |
| 15:21.22 | RaydenUni | wowecon uses about 60mb |
| 15:21.51 | Pkekyo | why the flying fuck does people say 'happy 9/11"? |
| 15:21.51 | Pkekyo | and wth is wowecon? :) |
| 15:21.53 | RaydenUni | i forget what came 2nd |
| 15:22.22 | RaydenUni | stores AH prices worldwide and per server |
| 15:22.44 | Pkekyo | so...an auctioneer alternative..? |
| 15:23.07 | RaydenUni | something like that |
| 15:23.11 | RaydenUni | iu haven't used auctioneer |
| 15:23.35 | RaydenUni | "hey someone is selling a dawnstone for 10g, i wonder how good a price that is. oh it is supposedly going for 25g on this server, that's a good price" |
| 15:23.47 | RaydenUni | should i DE, vendor, or AH? |
| 15:23.58 | RaydenUni | auctioneer scans the AH right? |
| 15:24.02 | Shirik | yes |
| 15:24.06 | RaydenUni | this stores everything in a database somewhere |
| 15:24.11 | Shirik | yes |
| 15:24.18 | Shirik | and does a lot of statistical calculations on it |
| 15:24.23 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowecon.com/ |
| 15:24.25 | Shirik | unfortunately most people don't know how to read them |
| 15:24.31 | RaydenUni | you can subscribe to wowecon and get pretty graphs and thing |
| 15:24.34 | RaydenUni | i don't |
| 15:25.33 | Pkekyo | can't be arsed if it drains 60 MiBs |
| 15:25.48 | RaydenUni | yeah but i have 1000mb so what's 60? |
| 15:25.58 | fixt | Anything special i have to do when downloading addons with WAU2 to make dependencies download_ |
| 15:26.08 | fixt | cause last night when i tried starting on a new UI half the addons didnt run due to missing libs |
| 15:26.29 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: depends on how much crap you tend to have running in the background :P |
| 15:26.44 | RaydenUni | i close everything but thunderbird when i play wow |
| 15:26.49 | RaydenUni | cept maybe some firefox windows |
| 15:26.53 | RaydenUni | and uh... pidgin |
| 15:27.02 | RaydenUni | i close everything that isn't usually open |
| 15:27.12 | Pkekyo | omfg I'm SO using this art for my new UI http://orz.4chan.org/wg/src/1189502702649.jpg |
| 15:27.23 | RaydenUni | i disabled ALL addons and my framerate didn't increase at all |
| 15:27.26 | RaydenUni | so memory isn't an issue |
| 15:27.55 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: I tend to have photoshop, illustrator, opera, winamp and loads of other stuff up at the same time, so I tend to calm down on addons that drain alot of memory if I don't really need it |
| 15:28.17 | RaydenUni | or you could just close PS |
| 15:28.24 | RaydenUni | seems like an easier solution |
| 15:28.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | Antiarc, Omen is on worldofwar |
| 15:28.50 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: true, but they're open because I -use- them :) |
| 15:28.51 | durcyn | need illustrator running in order to play wow, duh |
| 15:29.00 | RaydenUni | during wow? |
| 15:29.05 | Pkekyo | yes |
| 15:29.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | Seeing as it's not under the name Antiarc, but Tefuron, I assume it isn't you? |
| 15:29.21 | Pkekyo | spent half last nights kara raid tracing stuff |
| 15:29.22 | RaydenUni | how so? |
| 15:29.40 | Pkekyo | I have little time to do what I must, so I do it all at once ^^ |
| 15:29.52 | kenlyric | here we go, my UI in action http://media.abels.us/games/wow/UI2007-09-11_prettiest.jpg.jpg the target currntly doesn't have any buffs, but it's the same concept as what's over the pet unit frame. |
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| 15:30.29 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: too many colors made my eyes bleed :< |
| 15:31.04 | Pkekyo | different bar textures as well..meh! |
| 15:31.04 | Pkekyo | other than that it's nice though:) |
| 15:31.07 | RaydenUni | but... the colors mean things |
| 15:31.20 | kenlyric | yeah, all the bar textures are default. |
| 15:31.38 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: so what? |
| 15:31.43 | RaydenUni | does omen do otravi? |
| 15:31.51 | kenlyric | I hope so. |
| 15:31.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | kenlyric, very similar to my current :) |
| 15:31.57 | Matrix110 | wtb dual/quadcore support for wow! |
| 15:31.57 | RaydenUni | so removing the colors means reducing information |
| 15:32.01 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: I hate your unitframes tbh...why do you need to be reminded that you're a belf huntard? :P |
| 15:32.03 | kenlyric | omen has terribad setting options at the moment |
| 15:32.04 | Kirkburn|sleep | Very very similar in fact |
| 15:32.08 | RaydenUni | color is another dimension that can be used to convey information |
| 15:32.21 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: that's just the default, and i'm not motivated to remove it. |
| 15:32.21 | RaydenUni | like class colors on omen |
| 15:32.25 | Kirkburn|sleep | It's almost like you saw mine and copied it :P |
| 15:32.32 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: yes, but it doesn't have to be fugly :P |
| 15:32.52 | Punkie` | kenlyric: why dont you have your pet dps in the left area and yours in the right? :) |
| 15:33.01 | Punkie` | the right of your combat text is very cluttered |
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| 15:33.19 | Kirkburn|sleep | Because the left is damage taken? |
| 15:33.20 | kenlyric | that'd be a good change. |
| 15:33.20 | Pkekyo | I use single coloured bars, and coloured player names... it's win aestheticly, and works great practicly speaking as wekk |
| 15:33.25 | kenlyric | since I take very little damage myself on the hunter. |
| 15:33.45 | kenlyric | my bars are colored by health. it's a healer thing. |
| 15:34.14 | Pkekyo | dark gray healthbars and dark red power bars <3 |
| 15:34.31 | Punkie` | i try to show only needed info on my ui |
| 15:34.38 | kenlyric | omen doesn't even let you change it's width. |
| 15:34.44 | Punkie` | yes it does |
| 15:34.45 | deltron | yes it does |
| 15:34.46 | kenlyric | healers need a lot of info. |
| 15:34.48 | Pkekyo | yes it does |
| 15:34.50 | Punkie` | drag the bottom right |
| 15:34.50 | kenlyric | since when? |
| 15:34.56 | kenlyric | fail |
| 15:35.20 | kenlyric | I swear I removed the tps table. |
| 15:35.22 | Pkekyo | it ought to have numerical width settings though, I agree |
| 15:35.34 | Shirik | heh |
| 15:35.35 | kenlyric | errr, tps column. |
| 15:35.39 | Shirik | I have 3 sets of hp bars for each player |
| 15:35.40 | RaydenUni | as long as i've used omen |
| 15:35.43 | Shirik | on my healer |
| 15:35.47 | RaydenUni | why Shirik ? |
| 15:35.54 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: tps is overrated |
| 15:35.55 | kenlyric | part of my ui clutter comes from the fact that it's 9-in-1. |
| 15:35.55 | charon | kenlyric: how "not even"? you can change the properties (color, texture...) of _every single_ bar in omen... |
| 15:36.05 | Shirik | long story, but it gives me all the info I need |
| 15:36.09 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: 9-in-1? |
| 15:36.12 | Shirik | it also gives me access to every spell I could possibly need |
| 15:36.15 | kenlyric | nine classes in one. |
| 15:36.23 | RaydenUni | i need more modifier buttons... |
| 15:36.37 | RaydenUni | now i only use alt |
| 15:36.45 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: load on demand settings for each char? :) |
| 15:36.45 | RaydenUni | for some reason shift doesn't work well |
| 15:36.49 | kenlyric | oh gods. |
| 15:36.54 | kenlyric | setting up one UI is enough work. |
| 15:36.57 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: ctrl, shift, alt and c-lock? |
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| 15:37.00 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/punkieui.jpg |
| 15:37.15 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: you only click and unclick class specific addons |
| 15:37.19 | kenlyric | default profiles are the #1 reason I use ace mods. |
| 15:37.33 | evl | Punkie`: Your texture choice makes me want to DIE |
| 15:37.34 | kenlyric | I have very few class specific mods, and those only load on those classes. |
| 15:37.44 | Punkie` | i just added that the other day :D |
| 15:37.45 | kenlyric | mendwatch, yata, kotj |
| 15:37.47 | Shirik | Pkekyo: I only use shift :) |
| 15:37.50 | Shirik | makes things a lot easier |
| 15:38.01 | Shirik | er.... RaydenUni |
| 15:38.07 | Pkekyo | Shirik: I use shift and ctrl....three actionbars :) |
| 15:38.17 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: is that screenie terribly cropped, or are you a one-trick pony? |
| 15:38.18 | Fisker- | i'm gonna slit your throat Punkie` |
| 15:39.09 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: what are you on about? |
| 15:39.11 | Punkie` | that is my ui |
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| 15:39.19 | kenlyric | it's a rogue. |
| 15:39.41 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: there's like...nothing at all on your actionbars? :) |
| 15:39.50 | kenlyric | ^^ |
| 15:40.02 | kenlyric | Pkekyo, meet rogue. |
| 15:40.24 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: I have a rogue...with three actionbars! :< |
| 15:40.25 | Punkie` | i have memorised all my buttons :P |
| 15:40.33 | kenlyric | i'm an information whore too. I only recently reduced from 3 to 2 fubars |
| 15:40.46 | evl | Pkekyo: i use zero :P |
| 15:40.59 | Punkie` | i just use that 1 for dragging stuff like macros etc |
| 15:41.20 | Pkekyo | <--- complete fucking macrowhore |
| 15:41.24 | Hjalte | weab, what about having Automaton have an option to (automatically lol) hide tracking icons from minimap? |
| 15:41.26 | Punkie` | i also have a cool vanish macro that annoys evl |
| 15:41.29 | Punkie` | its so good |
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| 15:41.43 | Aeyan | I refuse to have more than two rows of buttons on my screen |
| 15:42.02 | Aeyan | Most of them I bind to keybindings and just use the buttons for cooldown and mana/rage/etc notification |
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| 15:42.44 | Punkie` | note to self: vanish more in the vicinity of evl |
| 15:42.52 | Pkekyo | http://orz.4chan.org/wg/src/1189489412397.jpg |
| 15:42.54 | weab | Hjalte: sounds like altering the ui, not automating something. |
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| 15:43.18 | Hjalte | weab, bah. was just hoping i didnt have to find some new addon for it :p |
| 15:43.22 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 15:43.49 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 15:44.14 | kenlyric | Hjalte: there are a ton of other mods that do that. |
| 15:44.42 | kenlyric | which are actually related to tracking. |
| 15:47.44 | weab | i think Hjalte is just taking automaton's theme to heart, laziness. which i can appreciate since i'm typically too lazy to update it |
| 15:47.50 | Pkekyo | ok, I'm going to bed... g'nite all |
| 15:47.59 | cncfanatics | lol, I just got home and ur going to bed |
| 15:48.01 | cncfanatics | g'night I guess |
| 15:48.13 | kenlyric | hmmm.. there's no simple way to move pet information over to the left |
| 15:48.19 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: just got home from school myself... 17.48 |
| 15:48.31 | Hjalte | Yeah, i'm kind of lazy, weab is right :) |
| 15:48.40 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, why in the world are u going to bed then ? |
| 15:48.49 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: tired as a motherfucker? |
| 15:49.02 | Pkekyo | allready fell asleep on zeh keyboard :) |
| 15:49.03 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, what could possibly make you that tired ? :o |
| 15:49.22 | cncfanatics | either way, don't mind me today, some weird stuff happening and i'm less cheery then usualy :p |
| 15:49.28 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: I don't kiss and tell |
| 15:49.39 | Pkekyo | but I can admit I haven't slept for the last 50-60hrs or so |
| 15:50.03 | cncfanatics | lol, no surprise then |
| 15:50.28 | Pkekyo | can't be arsed though...my bed is full of junk :< |
| 15:50.38 | cncfanatics | smart |
| 15:50.44 | Pkekyo | too tired to clean it up |
| 15:50.45 | fixt | Anything special i have to do when downloading addons with WAU2 to make dependencies download? Seeing as a lot of addons i downloaded won't work like pitbull and fubar |
| 15:51.00 | Punkie` | Fisker-: why did you want to slit my throat anyway :( |
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| 15:51.17 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8258.msg137058#msg137058 |
| 15:51.18 | Industrial | tee hee |
| 15:51.32 | cncfanatics | fixt, not as far as I know, did u just do /reload ingame or actualy close wow & restart it ? |
| 15:51.32 | Industrial | bam's not on IRC :) |
| 15:51.35 | Industrial | :(* |
| 15:51.37 | fixt | restart it |
| 15:51.39 | Pkekyo | rofl, I'm still logged in on the wowace forums |
| 15:51.46 | fixt | i just completely whiped my addons folder |
| 15:51.54 | fixt | then downloaded a bunch of addons like pitbull, fubar, recount etc |
| 15:52.22 | Industrial | Pkekyo: it sets a forever lasting cookie |
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| 15:53.23 | Pkekyo | Industrial: I can tell...haven't even been on the forums for months |
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| 15:54.09 | Xinhuan | nice slap |
| 15:54.17 | asmodai | Old skool |
| 15:54.34 | Industrial | Pkekyo: .. your loss? :P |
| 15:54.43 | Pkekyo | Industrial: not really? |
| 15:54.44 | cncfanatics | hmmm, i'm confused about the disembeding in Ace3 |
| 15:54.49 | fixt | SO cncfanatics you are sure i dont need to download dewdrop, sharedmedia, babble etc spesifically ? |
| 15:54.56 | fixt | just using WAU2 and downloading appropriate addons should be enough ? |
| 15:55.00 | cncfanatics | fixt, you can configure WAU2 to do so |
| 15:55.01 | Industrial | wowace is one of my main sources of amusement throughout the day |
| 15:55.03 | Pkekyo | rather be trolling forums relevant to the stuff I'm doing |
| 15:55.11 | fixt | how? |
| 15:55.11 | asmodai | trolling < * |
| 15:55.24 | cncfanatics | to any Ace3 dev: wouldnt removing disembeding support from the core lead to duplicated code in addons ? |
| 15:55.25 | fixt | ah yes |
| 15:55.31 | Industrial | oh I don't troll, I make sure what I say is true :P |
| 15:55.33 | fixt | i already have auto-install dependencies |
| 15:55.43 | asmodai | facts > * |
| 15:55.46 | Pkekyo | Industrial: I tend to do some mix-and-matching :P |
| 15:56.03 | fixt | what is a good addon for seeing when sheeps are broken by a raidmember and how it was broken |
| 15:56.05 | Hjalte | fixt, if you are using WAU2 you will need to download each addon and when you are done, ask WAU2 to update all installed addons to have it install libraries. |
| 15:56.11 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: no |
| 15:56.17 | Hjalte | fixt, CCBreaker. |
| 15:56.18 | Industrial | cncfanatics: eh, how/ |
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| 15:56.38 | Xinhuan | all disembeding does is allow faster loading -- that's it |
| 15:56.41 | Industrial | How does one support disembedding, too? |
| 15:56.48 | cncfanatics | thats what I was wondering too |
| 15:56.55 | fixt | ah that's what i didnt do last time Hjalte |
| 15:56.59 | fixt | ththe update |
| 15:57.07 | FrostByghte | really silly question but where can I adjust the opacity for the party frames in pitbull? |
| 15:57.24 | cncfanatics | FrostyByghte: alpha settings ? |
| 15:57.24 | Xinhuan | instead of 20 addons loading the same embedded library 20 times and throwing away 19 copies of it after realising they are the same, you just load them once disembedded |
| 15:57.30 | Xinhuan | and that's the only advantage |
| 15:57.43 | Industrial | FrostByghte: there's a g and a h too much in your name? :P |
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| 15:58.07 | asmodai | They're silent.. |
| 15:58.24 | Industrial | who's Kody- |
| 15:58.29 | FrostByghte | :) |
| 15:58.41 | kenlyric | thanks for the tip to move my pet damage left... that really helped clean things up. |
| 15:58.48 | FrostByghte | anyone know how to adjust opacity in pitbull for the party frames? It's not exactly jumping out at me |
| 15:59.38 | fixt | Difference between eepanels and eepanels2 |
| 15:59.56 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, I know that |
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| 16:00.09 | Pkekyo | "Hyper Crystal LCD"....the guys on marketing went a bit overboard with this one :P |
| 16:00.09 | cncfanatics | I'm wondering what this quote here exactly means: "Following the Ace2 design, Rock core attempts to load standalone library automatically, since it's very convenient. In contrary, Ace3 thinks it should be authors' and updaters' responsibility to make sure the libraries loaded correctly when disembedded. The team believes that a framework should be independent of the distribution mechanism. Ace3 is designed to be embedded, and is |
| 16:00.24 | Industrial | time to start all over again with my addons! |
| 16:00.34 | Industrial | cncfanatics: and you stopped at ", and is" |
| 16:00.40 | Xinhuan | it just means that ace3 is designed to be so small, that having 20 addons embedding it won't affect loading time much |
| 16:01.18 | Industrial | cncfanatics: good question for the forums, imho |
| 16:01.56 | cncfanatics | I just don't realize how Ace2 helps with disembeding and how Ace3 wont |
| 16:02.09 | FrostByghte | ah I got it, it's the range check doing it |
| 16:02.14 | Industrial | me neither, that's why I said so |
| 16:02.29 | cncfanatics | Industrial, that was mainly ment to Xinhuan |
| 16:02.31 | Xinhuan | Ace2 helps with disembedding because AceLibrary automatically enables disembeeded libraries when they are needed -- they are LoD |
| 16:03.06 | Industrial | eep it does? |
| 16:03.09 | Industrial | since when? |
| 16:03.11 | Industrial | :| |
| 16:03.17 | Xinhuan | since like years ago |
| 16:03.23 | Xinhuan | if you disabled say Lib: Babble |
| 16:03.29 | Xinhuan | and one of your ace2 addons uses it |
| 16:03.37 | Xinhuan | acelibrary will enable it without you even realising it |
| 16:03.42 | Aeyan | Yes, it's very annoying |
| 16:03.58 | Industrial | oh well, I haven't used Ace2 in ages either :P |
| 16:04.18 | Xinhuan | it goes against the contrary where a disabled addon is supposed to STAY DISABLED |
| 16:04.28 | Xinhuan | i had an argument with someone about it last month in this channel |
| 16:04.52 | Xinhuan | because he said you can edit AceLibrary.lua -- and change a flag at the top of the file from true to false |
| 16:05.06 | Xinhuan | to turn off this auto-lib-enable behavior |
| 16:05.10 | Industrial | btw http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8365.new#new |
| 16:05.25 | Xinhuan | i just find that dumb as an end-user |
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| 16:05.31 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: we requested that flag because that feature sucks hard .P |
| 16:05.45 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 16:05.48 | Xinhuan | fair enough |
| 16:06.10 | nevcairiel | not sure about rock, but ace3 wont have that feature again^^ |
| 16:06.22 | Aeyan | Oh cool, didn't know about that flag |
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| 16:06.30 | Aeyan | Now I can break shit |
| 16:06.44 | Industrial | down with WAU! go web-apps! disembedding begone from all forum posts and wiki's and (shock) code! |
| 16:06.55 | Industrial | lets form a party. |
| 16:06.55 | RaydenUni | hi guys |
| 16:07.00 | RaydenUni | partay! |
| 16:07.02 | Pkekyo | meh, wtb more skateboarderds in town! |
| 16:07.17 | Xinhuan | i find that if i have to edit a framework core lib, it goes against developer logic |
| 16:07.24 | Pkekyo | s/skateboarderderds/skateboarders |
| 16:07.26 | Aeyan | The constipated Osaka must lead |
| 16:07.27 | Pkekyo | s/skateboarderderds/skateboarders/ |
| 16:07.38 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:09.07 | Industrial | someone should make a firefox plugin for wowace that's has a database of topic id's and any id in it found in the topic list will be hidden. |
| 16:09.15 | charon | Pkekyo: up to about 2 minutes ago i figured you were doing quite well for 50+ hours without sleep |
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| 16:09.21 | Industrial | 90% is uninteresting to me |
| 16:09.22 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:09.30 | Industrial | yet it bumps my unread posts :( |
| 16:10.13 | Pkekyo | charon: I'm a photographer...streetsport is loved by photographers! ;> |
| 16:10.50 | Industrial | "How the face meets the concrete" |
| 16:11.00 | Pkekyo | can't help it, it skateboarding just makes great pictures... |
| 16:11.05 | Industrial | ;D |
| 16:11.08 | Aeyan | In high contrast black-and-white |
| 16:11.16 | Pkekyo | or sepia :) |
| 16:11.22 | Pkekyo | sepia if it's high-air |
| 16:11.27 | Pkekyo | black/white otherwise |
| 16:12.28 | Industrial | who maintains BT3? |
| 16:12.35 | Industrial | its wiki page is unclaimed. |
| 16:12.35 | cncfanatics | Nevnubiel |
| 16:12.35 | Pkekyo | ~bartender |
| 16:12.47 | cncfanatics | ~nevcairiel |
| 16:12.47 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, nevcairiel is 'awesome' |
| 16:12.53 | Industrial | nevcairiel: gogo http://wowace.com/wiki/Bartender3 |
| 16:13.11 | nevcairiel | i am too lazy for wiki'ing |
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| 16:13.29 | Industrial | pff :P |
| 16:13.29 | nevcairiel | i was happy when it was completly deleted back on the crash |
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| 16:13.35 | nevcairiel | but someone recreated it :x |
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| 16:13.57 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:14.28 | Xinhuan | who wants to make a wiki page for WoWEquip? i'm lazy ;p |
| 16:14.34 | Industrial | I hate that wowace doesn't have categories :( |
| 16:14.51 | Industrial | I have to guess by what I see fly by in the addons forum |
| 16:15.10 | Industrial | hard when you aren't looking for a perticular addon |
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| 16:15.44 | cncfanatics | should add a forum / wiki link in files.wowace.com really |
| 16:16.37 | Xinhuan | should delete addons from it that aren't actually maintained anymore |
| 16:16.47 | cncfanatics | agree there too |
| 16:16.50 | Industrial | or convinve wowi to get an SVN and move the whole pile-o-crap over |
| 16:17.31 | Industrial | managed, clean, community, portals, bugtracking, downloads, categories |
| 16:17.36 | Industrial | *shrug* |
| 16:17.54 | cncfanatics | now, someone, how could I make this code faster ? its blocking my UI slightly when learning new spells and probably adds some load time too and thats irritating me a LOT. http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/FlexBar2/SpellCache/SpellCache.lua?r=48164 |
| 16:19.17 | cncfanatics | someone ? -.- |
| 16:19.41 | Industrial | I can't copy that text :P |
| 16:20.05 | cncfanatics | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/FlexBar2/SpellCache/SpellCache.lua?r=48164 |
| 16:20.05 | Industrial | grabbing it from svn |
| 16:20.21 | Industrial | no, it copies with all the line crap |
| 16:20.25 | cncfanatics | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/~raw,r=48164/WowAce/trunk/FlexBar2/SpellCache/SpellCache.lua will do better |
| 16:20.31 | cncfanatics | no line crap ;) |
| 16:20.41 | Industrial | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/SpellCache/SpellCache.lua |
| 16:20.43 | Industrial | oh |
| 16:20.44 | Industrial | hehe |
| 16:21.01 | cncfanatics | so, any ideas ? |
| 16:21.08 | cncfanatics | its irritating me quite a lot its locking stuff up |
| 16:21.10 | CIA-22 | 03pheredhel * r48622 10CCBreaker/ (. CCBreaker.lua CCBreaker.toc CCOptions.lua): |
| 16:21.10 | CIA-22 | CCBreaker: |
| 16:21.10 | CIA-22 | -performance optimisazions |
| 16:21.10 | CIA-22 | -last commit before port to LibRock |
| 16:21.10 | CIA-22 | -removed proprietary svn property (keep it clean and only use standards) |
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| 16:24.26 | dhawaloo | hi |
| 16:24.27 | Industrial | yeah |
| 16:24.29 | Pkekyo | http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs20/i/2007/254/8/a/The_5_0_by_Pkekyo.jpg <--- how's the manipulation? |
| 16:24.35 | Industrial | you update at the moment you need a spell |
| 16:24.45 | Industrial | why not do that when the event happens? |
| 16:24.52 | Industrial | 'LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB' |
| 16:24.59 | cncfanatics | I schedule an update on that event |
| 16:25.01 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: tbh, I dont like it |
| 16:25.03 | Tornhoof | photoshop stroke effect ;) |
| 16:25.05 | Fisker- | Pheredhel omg COMBOBREAKER |
| 16:25.10 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: because? |
| 16:25.16 | Pheredhel | ? |
| 16:25.16 | cncfanatics | that event can trigger lots of times when lvl'ing, so rather only update the cache when I need data from it |
| 16:25.19 | [dRaCo] | dunno, dont like that effect |
| 16:25.20 | cncfanatics | my way of bucketing I guess |
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| 16:25.26 | Fisker- | you should rename it to C-C-Combo Breaker imo |
| 16:25.39 | Pheredhel | ? why combo ? |
| 16:25.49 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 16:25.52 | Fisker- | just should be |
| 16:25.58 | Pheredhel | CC = crowd control |
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| 16:26.57 | Industrial | "Fired when a new spell/ability is added to the spellbook. e.g. When training a new or a higher level spell/ability." |
| 16:26.59 | Industrial | hell no cncfanatics |
| 16:27.18 | Industrial | that doesn't happen a lot at all |
| 16:27.18 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: anything flawed with it, or is it a matter of taste? |
| 16:27.20 | Industrial | imho |
| 16:27.37 | cncfanatics | Industrial |
| 16:27.38 | cncfanatics | supose |
| 16:27.42 | cncfanatics | I just leveled |
| 16:27.43 | cncfanatics | or respecced |
| 16:27.52 | cncfanatics | it'll trigger, lets see, 10 times in a quick succession |
| 16:27.54 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: no, it's totally ok, I just dont like it :) |
| 16:28.04 | [dRaCo] | but u asked for opinions ^^ |
| 16:28.05 | cncfanatics | if , each time it triggers, it locks up the UI, its VERY anoying |
| 16:28.19 | Industrial | cncfanatics: the default UI doesn't lock up, does it? |
| 16:28.30 | cncfanatics | Industrial, it ain't caching all spells when you learn new ones either |
| 16:28.47 | Industrial | I mean, do you need caching at all? |
| 16:29.10 | Industrial | what's there to cache? |
| 16:29.20 | cncfanatics | I don't use actionids in flexbar |
| 16:29.31 | Industrial | .. oh |
| 16:29.36 | cncfanatics | and GameTooltip:SetSpell() only takes spell slots |
| 16:29.41 | cncfanatics | so i'm stuck with caching there till blizz adds that |
| 16:29.45 | RaydenUni | has anyone made my aggro connected graph mod yet? |
| 16:29.50 | Xinhuan | [9/12 00:26:08] <cncfanatics> it'll trigger, lets see, 10 times in a quick succession |
| 16:29.52 | Xinhuan | the solution |
| 16:29.53 | Xinhuan | is that |
| 16:29.59 | Xinhuan | when the EVENT triggers |
| 16:30.08 | Xinhuan | you set an OnUpdate script |
| 16:30.13 | Xinhuan | to update on the next frame |
| 16:30.32 | Xinhuan | so even if that event triggers 100 times in the current frame, you only update it once in the next frame |
| 16:30.43 | Xinhuan | then you setscript(nil) in the onupdate func |
| 16:30.51 | cncfanatics | no no |
| 16:30.51 | Xinhuan | i do this quite a bit |
| 16:30.53 | cncfanatics | when I respec |
| 16:31.02 | cncfanatics | I will probably select the first spell to learn at the trainer |
| 16:31.12 | cncfanatics | and then, I'll just spam the buy spell button |
| 16:31.20 | cncfanatics | which means it'll trigger 10 times in say, 8 seconds |
| 16:31.30 | Xinhuan | so whats wrong with that? |
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| 16:31.41 | Xinhuan | does your update function take 10 seconds to run? |
| 16:31.46 | Xinhuan | its not like people respec daily |
| 16:31.46 | cncfanatics | each time it triggers in those 8 seconds, it'll lock up the UI for half a second |
| 16:31.47 | baer_ | ckknight is not here, aye? |
| 16:31.47 | Xinhuan | or hourly |
| 16:31.56 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, I still think its anoying :)- |
| 16:32.01 | Xinhuan | why is it locking up? |
| 16:32.07 | Xinhuan | for half a sec |
| 16:32.13 | Industrial | ~seen ckknight |
| 16:32.15 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 55m 3s ago, saying: 'alright, I'll cya all later'. |
| 16:32.18 | Industrial | baer_: ^ |
| 16:32.29 | baer_ | many thanks, Industrial . |
| 16:32.37 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, that cache code takes about half a second (slightly less) to loop through all spells and put them in a table |
| 16:32.55 | Xinhuan | why is it taking so long? |
| 16:33.02 | TNSe | mmm tables |
| 16:33.03 | Xinhuan | isn't there only at most 100 spells in your spellbook? |
| 16:33.29 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: ofcourse, and I appreciate it...just want to know if there's any way I can improve it :) |
| 16:33.42 | snurre | hm... Star.Wars.720p.HDTV.x264.INTERNAL-hV finished dl'ing... /afk for a few hours |
| 16:33.48 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, actualy, let me do more testing |
| 16:33.55 | cncfanatics | seems something else is clogging too |
| 16:34.04 | Xinhuan | you should do some profiling |
| 16:34.12 | Xinhuan | with debugprofilestart() and debugprofilestop() |
| 16:34.16 | Xinhuan | and see where the problem is |
| 16:34.21 | cncfanatics | tracking it down atm |
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| 16:34.33 | cncfanatics | think I got it |
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| 16:34.53 | cncfanatics | debugprofilestarttime - debugprofilestop() == runtime ? |
| 16:34.54 | cncfanatics | right ? |
| 16:34.58 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 16:35.06 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: If you want that kind of effect, it's prolly the best you can do with photoshop |
| 16:35.09 | Xinhuan | the return value is in ms |
| 16:35.13 | Xinhuan | milliseconds |
| 16:35.45 | cncfanatics | !api debugprofilestart |
| 16:35.46 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_debugprofilestart |
| 16:35.54 | Xinhuan | its not an api heh |
| 16:36.05 | Xinhuan | you simply call debugprofilestart() |
| 16:36.07 | Xinhuan | by itself |
| 16:36.21 | Xinhuan | when you call debugprofilestop(), that returns a value in ms |
| 16:36.36 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: wanted it to look more like a graphical work/sketch than a photo |
| 16:36.48 | Xinhuan | debugprofilestart(); YOUR CODE HERE; runtime = debugprofilestop(); |
| 16:37.27 | Pkekyo | just experimenting...'cause the photo wasn't 'all that' in it's original form :P |
| 16:37.30 | cncfanatics | thanks |
| 16:37.32 | cncfanatics | i'm testing some stuff |
| 16:37.32 | Xinhuan | the start one doesn't return any value |
| 16:37.38 | cncfanatics | seems multiple things combined are clogging it up |
| 16:37.45 | cncfanatics | thing is |
| 16:37.55 | cncfanatics | I have shapeshift update code ran in LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB |
| 16:37.59 | cncfanatics | which causes attributes to change |
| 16:38.05 | cncfanatics | which again triggers OnAttributeChanged |
| 16:38.10 | Xinhuan | and the start/stop is pretty handy since you can do it across different functions and addons |
| 16:38.10 | cncfanatics | which then again makes everything update |
| 16:38.36 | cncfanatics | 593ms runtime |
| 16:38.37 | cncfanatics | ouch |
| 16:38.52 | Xinhuan | alright, so you need to drill deeper into your loop |
| 16:39.02 | Xinhuan | and find out which part of your loop is taking a long time |
| 16:39.15 | baer_ | btw, anyone knows an addon that triggers whispers to lists? :) |
| 16:39.40 | RaydenUni | paladins: "Why are you carrying the flag in WSG, anyway? That's why Blizzard came up with druids and shamans." |
| 16:39.44 | RaydenUni | because they don't die? |
| 16:39.44 | cncfanatics | got ya !ç |
| 16:39.49 | cncfanatics | damn this is a a stupid bug |
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| 16:40.09 | Xinhuan | also you might want to repeat all of this without any addons loaded |
| 16:40.16 | Xinhuan | other than FB2 and its dependencies |
| 16:40.22 | cncfanatics | I am |
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| 16:40.26 | cncfanatics | I got the piece of code that does it |
| 16:40.26 | cncfanatics | and why |
| 16:40.29 | cncfanatics | let me explain |
| 16:40.40 | cncfanatics | after updating the shapeshift states |
| 16:40.45 | cncfanatics | every button will need an update |
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| 16:40.55 | cncfanatics | currently in that update func I change the state of the header frame |
| 16:41.04 | cncfanatics | each time the state of the header frame changes, all buttons change |
| 16:41.11 | cncfanatics | which means it'll change buttons * buttons times |
| 16:41.14 | cncfanatics | which is just nasty |
| 16:41.20 | cncfanatics | especialy with lots of buttons |
| 16:41.41 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 16:41.44 | RaydenUni | i almost blew out my ear drums |
| 16:41.47 | Xinhuan | are you updating hidden buttons? |
| 16:41.58 | RaydenUni | i had my laptop volume nearly all the way up and popped some headphones in |
| 16:42.11 | RaydenUni | luckily i turned it down a lot before checking to see the volume, still really loud |
| 16:42.17 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, currently yes, but even that won't be a big issue |
| 16:42.18 | Xinhuan | blizzard secure template code is hella inefficient |
| 16:42.27 | cncfanatics | and unhandy |
| 16:42.29 | Xinhuan | and you can't even profile blizzard code |
| 16:42.55 | cncfanatics | hmmm, indeed |
| 16:42.57 | cncfanatics | you can't prehook |
| 16:42.58 | cncfanatics | only posthook |
| 16:43.10 | cncfanatics | guess u could rerun blizz's code urself and profile it then |
| 16:43.32 | cncfanatics | either way, this loop was rly nasty |
| 16:43.37 | cncfanatics | shld be fixed now |
| 16:43.58 | cncfanatics | fixed |
| 16:44.01 | cncfanatics | no more hookupos |
| 16:44.04 | cncfanatics | huuuzah |
| 16:44.16 | Xinhuan | so what was wrong? |
| 16:44.40 | cncfanatics | gimme a sec |
| 16:44.41 | cncfanatics | i'll link ya |
| 16:45.01 | cncfanatics | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua?r=48417 |
| 16:45.11 | cncfanatics | function start on line 96 |
| 16:45.23 | cncfanatics | the second part of that func |
| 16:45.32 | cncfanatics | the one that starts after the -- Reset all states comment |
| 16:45.45 | cncfanatics | it causes OnAttributeChanged to trigger which in its turn make all buttons update |
| 16:45.49 | cncfanatics | it was being ran once per button |
| 16:45.52 | cncfanatics | instead of just once |
| 16:46.46 | Pkekyo | http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs21/i/2007/254/0/f/Early_Dawn_by_Pkekyo.jpg <--- should I, or should I not rework the colors? |
| 16:47.21 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: If you do, just a little |
| 16:47.29 | [dRaCo] | a bit more intense maybe |
| 16:47.41 | Xinhuan | so whats your solution? |
| 16:47.48 | [dRaCo] | great shot anyway |
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| 16:48.19 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, I run said code only once |
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| 16:48.25 | cncfanatics | instead of Buttons times |
| 16:48.36 | Pkekyo | I'd wish I was a bit further east dat day... didn't get the same lighted clouds out here :< |
| 16:49.15 | Xinhuan | might want to see if there's other portions of code that can be optimized this way as well |
| 16:49.42 | Pkekyo | thankies [dRaCo]...will see about the colors |
| 16:50.01 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, there probably are |
| 16:50.03 | cncfanatics | but let me first commit |
| 16:50.10 | cncfanatics | u can ask a diff to fish then, he'll tell u exactly what I did :)Ã |
| 16:50.27 | Xinhuan | a little cbf atm |
| 16:50.39 | Xinhuan | i've got a heap of guild admin stuff to do ;p |
| 16:51.02 | cncfanatics | heh |
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| 16:51.10 | cncfanatics | either way, thanks for the assistance |
| 16:51.47 | Xinhuan | secure templates are the most problematic thing to debug in the world lol |
| 16:51.59 | cncfanatics | agree |
| 16:51.59 | Xinhuan | they simply do blanket updates |
| 16:52.06 | Xinhuan | instead of selective updates |
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| 16:52.14 | cncfanatics | I hate to have to depend on OnAttributeChanged to update some stuff heh |
| 16:52.30 | Suntiger | ~purl |
| 16:52.31 | purl | rumour has it, purl is teh b0m8 |
| 16:52.51 | cncfanatics | I actualy only use OnAttributeChanged in attributes.lua |
| 16:52.54 | cncfanatics | and guess where the problem was ? |
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| 16:53.31 | Fisker- | FUCKING LOL |
| 16:53.36 | Suntiger | danmit i hate the horde |
| 16:53.39 | Fisker- | omg i'm saving this |
| 16:53.50 | Suntiger | s/nm/mn |
| 16:53.54 | Suntiger | danmit i hate the horde |
| 16:53.59 | Suntiger | s/nm/mn/ |
| 16:53.59 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r48623 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: |
| 16:53.59 | CIA-22 | FlexBar2: |
| 16:53.59 | CIA-22 | Attributes.lua: |
| 16:53.59 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.08 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, what are u saving ? |
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| 16:54.24 | Fisker- | sec |
| 16:54.26 | Fisker- | gonna upload it |
| 16:54.30 | cncfanatics | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua?r1=48417&r2=48623 for a diff |
| 16:54.34 | cncfanatics | pretty simple fix really |
| 16:55.12 | Fisker- | http://i11.tinypic.com/5zna6mw.jpg |
| 16:55.13 | Fisker- | WIN! |
| 16:55.17 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7717/sunrisev2oa7.jpg ? |
| 16:55.43 | Industrial | lol Fisker- |
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| 16:55.51 | Suntiger | ~seen kergoth |
| 16:55.53 | purl | kergoth is currently on #wowi-lounge (9d 12h 24m 4s) #oe (9d 12h 24m 4s) #norganna (9d 12h 24m 4s) #elinux (9d 12h 24m 4s). Has said a total of 707 messages. Is idling for 19h 6m 36s, last said: 'yikes'. |
| 16:56.05 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 16:56.06 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 795 messages. Is idling for 9h 46m 28s, last said: 'or maybe im just drunk'. |
| 16:56.11 | cncfanatics | lol Fisker- |
| 16:56.15 | cncfanatics | why do YOU get that ? :p |
| 16:56.16 | cncfanatics | typical |
| 16:56.26 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, what server u on ? |
| 16:56.31 | Fisker- | Ravencrest |
| 16:56.47 | cncfanatics | EU ? US ? |
| 16:56.53 | Fisker- | EU |
| 16:57.25 | cncfanatics | meh, I *could* go play on ur server :o |
| 16:57.31 | cncfanatics | how active is ur side ? and whats ur side ? (a) |
| 16:57.33 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: ping? |
| 16:57.46 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: great colors, there's weird noise in the upper part, though |
| 16:57.51 | [dRaCo] | sorry, was ingame. |
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| 16:58.46 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: the noise is there on the original as well, but not as visible due to the dark color |
| 16:59.01 | Pkekyo | my camera had a slight problem with the lighting at that shutter speed |
| 16:59.45 | [dRaCo] | photoshop's got a denoise filter, iirc |
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| 17:00.19 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 17:01.06 | cncfanatics | yo Funkeh |
| 17:01.48 | Pkekyo | it does, but it screws around with the rest of the pic as well :< |
| 17:01.48 | Industrial | I wonder |
| 17:01.48 | Funkeh` | 2.2 this week? |
| 17:01.48 | Industrial | how do people egt their actionbar in the middle of the screen |
| 17:01.48 | Industrial | .. without setpoint? |
| 17:01.48 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:01.48 | Fisker- | no Funkeh` |
| 17:01.48 | Pkekyo | http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs19/i/2007/254/2/a/Early_Dawn_by_Pkekyo.jpg <--- isn't that visible in the dART size though |
| 17:01.49 | Fisker- | btw Funkeh` |
| 17:01.49 | Fisker- | http://i11.tinypic.com/5zna6mw.jpg |
| 17:01.49 | Funkeh` | *sigh* |
| 17:01.57 | Pkekyo | skinner is fugly :< |
| 17:01.58 | Xinhuan | Industrial: easy - with StartMoving() and StopMovingOrSizing() |
| 17:02.07 | Xinhuan | and relying on layout-cache.txt |
| 17:02.08 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 17:02.20 | Fisker- | fuck you Pkekyo |
| 17:02.22 | Funkeh` | Fisker-: Am I looking at the mail or? |
| 17:02.27 | Industrial | Xinhuan: and you can get it in the middle with the mouse like that? |
| 17:02.43 | Fisker- | yeah Funkeh` |
| 17:02.45 | Xinhuan | probably yes |
| 17:02.45 | Fisker- | look at the message |
| 17:02.46 | Fisker- | :D |
| 17:02.49 | Industrial | eep :( |
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| 17:03.02 | Funkeh` | Fisker-: Don't really know what to say, lol |
| 17:03.21 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: yes please? |
| 17:03.53 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: don't get me wrong, it's better than default, but it's just so...boring! |
| 17:04.18 | Funkeh` | Skinner is alst season |
| 17:04.20 | Fisker- | i don't like all the texturing shit people do :P |
| 17:04.24 | Funkeh` | eePanels2 is this season |
| 17:04.31 | cncfanatics | I don't like texturing either |
| 17:04.34 | cncfanatics | more of the minimalist |
| 17:04.38 | Funkeh` | No UI is next season |
| 17:04.42 | Fisker- | isn't eepanels only for selfmade panels? |
| 17:04.44 | Xinhuan | no its HK next season |
| 17:04.51 | Funkeh` | HK? |
| 17:04.59 | Xinhuan | hello kitty |
| 17:05.03 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 17:05.06 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 17:05.14 | Funkeh` | Fucking hello kitty rubbish |
| 17:05.43 | Pkekyo | was there ever a HD version made of The Pursuit of Happyness? |
| 17:06.08 | Pkekyo | 'cause this sure looks like a HD rip :P |
| 17:06.23 | Pkekyo | either that, or it's just better quality on a rip than I've ever seen before |
| 17:06.34 | Funkeh` | Seriously when the fuck are we getting 2.2 |
| 17:06.41 | Pkekyo | Funkeh`: late november |
| 17:06.43 | Xinhuan | like in 2 months |
| 17:06.54 | Xinhuan | they broke so many things with that sound engine rewrite |
| 17:07.22 | Funkeh` | >.> |
| 17:07.27 | Thrae | Fisker-: 1-2 weeks before Warhammer Online is released |
| 17:08.16 | Xinhuan | i've heard good and bad things abour Warhammer Online |
| 17:08.28 | Xinhuan | good things like - pvp oriented, you can buy pvp gear starting at lvl 9, etc |
| 17:08.38 | Xinhuan | and bad things like - "it is like guild wars, just a bit better" |
| 17:09.02 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Better to look at DAoC to see what Warhammer will bring |
| 17:09.13 | Fisker- | who cares about warhammer online? |
| 17:09.32 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Basically, they're trying to seriously upgrade DAoC's PvP methodology |
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| 17:09.55 | Thrae | PvP <-- including RvR |
| 17:09.57 | Fisker- | and failing |
| 17:10.08 | Thrae | Fisker-: You don't know that :D |
| 17:10.24 | Thrae | If anyone failed, it's Blizzard trying to steal DAoC's PvP battlegrounds |
| 17:10.33 | Thrae | Blizzard fails in PvP |
| 17:10.58 | Xinhuan | well WoW is successful in the sense that it caters to both hardcore and casual players - will WarOnline cater to casuals? |
| 17:11.10 | Xinhuan | can you solo most of it? |
| 17:11.35 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Solo PvP, yes |
| 17:11.56 | fixt | What is the addon that gives you layout grid on screen ? |
| 17:12.01 | Suntiger | ~emulate moonwolf |
| 17:12.02 | purl | I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, Call me! |
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| 17:12.12 | Thrae | fixt: Uh....Grid? |
| 17:12.17 | fixt | no |
| 17:12.19 | fixt | that's a raidaddon |
| 17:12.33 | fixt | it adds a grid over the whole screen for layoutpurposes |
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| 17:16.34 | kebinusan | fixt: align |
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| 17:18.32 | fixt | ah ok thx |
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| 17:27.04 | xyu | Referring to earlier, WarH. will still have no consequences for dying in PvP battle, and therefore will suck imo. |
| 17:29.11 | Garns | what kind of consequences? |
| 17:29.27 | xyu | being looted. losing stats, losing xp |
| 17:29.28 | xyu | etc. |
| 17:30.26 | kenlyric | that's the kind of awesome game that attracts 50,000 subscribers. |
| 17:30.47 | xyu | sadly, true. |
| 17:31.15 | xyu | UO had it right though. in the early days. |
| 17:31.34 | xyu | make there a reason to pk, but make there reasons to be anti-pk as well |
| 17:31.51 | kebinusan | yeah, and you could always just /yell GUARDS! |
| 17:31.57 | kebinusan | in a city anyway |
| 17:32.12 | xyu | yep, if you wanted to hang out in the city all day |
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| 17:32.25 | xyu | but if you wanted to come to Deceit, be prepared to fight for your lich lords |
| 17:32.32 | kenlyric | the vast majority of people don't really care for games that actively punish you. |
| 17:32.45 | kebinusan | having to /yell for guards certainly is more appealing than the constant guard zerg you get in wow |
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| 17:33.02 | kenlyric | like, a FPS without the ability to save. |
| 17:33.10 | xyu | It's not a punishment, you choose your roll. if you're an "adventerer" you have to come prepared |
| 17:33.13 | xyu | bring friends. |
| 17:33.26 | xyu | you're the one out there in the wild, expect bad people. |
| 17:33.29 | Fisker- | http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/coverfinalists/10.jpg <-fucking epic |
| 17:33.32 | xyu | make it similar to Eve online |
| 17:33.38 | kebinusan | sorry, firm believer in the greater internet fuckwad theory |
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| 17:33.43 | kenlyric | xyu: and attrack very few subscribers. |
| 17:33.50 | xyu | Eve has plenty |
| 17:33.55 | xyu | and there's pirates and looting etc |
| 17:34.14 | kenlyric | but it's not the only thing to do in eve, is it? |
| 17:34.14 | Lothaer | so what's the topic? |
| 17:34.16 | Garns | kebinusan: I don't want to imagine the chat during a city raid with everyone yelling for guards though :P |
| 17:34.25 | Pkekyo | hmm...microsoft banning people from xbox live until year 10.000 |
| 17:34.25 | xyu | Let thre be consequences for dying in pvp |
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| 17:34.42 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48624 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceAddon-3.0 - add __tostring metatable returning the name of the addon. |
| 17:34.45 | xyu | Garns: it would have to be in /say |
| 17:34.47 | Lothaer | Microsoft should have stayed out of games |
| 17:34.56 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48625 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceAddon-3.0 - preserve the addon metatable when adding the prototype __index for modules |
| 17:36.09 | xyu | At least give us options. different servers |
| 17:36.12 | xyu | like DAOC had |
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| 17:36.17 | xyu | morded and whatever |
| 17:36.31 | xyu | make some servers more hardcore, make others sunshine and clouds |
| 17:36.33 | Pkekyo | Lothaer: agreed |
| 17:36.45 | ergh99 | does Nargiddley ever drop in here? |
| 17:36.46 | Lothaer | thankyuo |
| 17:36.49 | kenlyric | xyu: I like the reward/punishment idea for pvp. |
| 17:36.50 | Lothaer | you* |
| 17:36.55 | kenlyric | I don't like the "you can lose everything" idea. |
| 17:37.09 | xyu | well make be ways to insure some things. |
| 17:37.10 | Lothaer | best idea in the world Pokemon MMO |
| 17:37.11 | Lothaer | LMFAO |
| 17:37.16 | xyu | but make it very very hard to insure said things. |
| 17:37.43 | kenlyric | like losing XP when you die just makes cringe. |
| 17:37.43 | Lothaer | World of Pokemon |
| 17:37.48 | Tuller | Lothaer: if they made a pokemon mmo, I would cry tears of joy |
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| 17:37.54 | Lothaer | id be soo there |
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| 17:37.59 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:38.11 | xyu | i dunno i kind of like the idea of losing xp when you die. even though i scream when i'm 99% to level and i die 3 times. :D |
| 17:38.13 | Lothaer | Atlas Pokedex :) |
| 17:38.29 | xyu | just as long as 1 death doesn't = 7 hours of game time like lineage or something |
| 17:38.55 | kenlyric | there are people who don't like the save feature of FPS because people can just keep reloading when they hit a difficult part, instead of doing the whole level (or game) over again. But it's also damn annoying when you want to be somewhere and the next save point is 20 minutes away. |
| 17:39.00 | Lothaer | when you kill horde/alliance make there corpses lootable |
| 17:39.00 | alext | xyu: thats how daoc was |
| 17:39.02 | alext | you lost xp when u died |
| 17:39.12 | xyu | yep |
| 17:39.20 | xyu | i dont think you could lose a level though, or a 'mini ding" |
| 17:39.22 | kenlyric | i'm humanoid, they should get cash and small chance of gear. |
| 17:39.22 | xyu | like in EQ |
| 17:39.29 | alext | nah u couldnt |
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| 17:39.48 | xyu | has warhammer decided on death penalties yet? i'm curious |
| 17:39.57 | Lothaer | huh??? |
| 17:39.59 | xyu | (pve) |
| 17:40.06 | alext | pretty sure that said in an interview there was none |
| 17:40.14 | kenlyric | it's all the same in warhammer, isn't it? |
| 17:40.14 | alext | that/they |
| 17:40.23 | xyu | yeah i think i heard it in a Q&A as well |
| 17:40.46 | xyu | kenlyric: probably yes |
| 17:40.48 | Ominous_ | is it possible to have variables in html? like domain/file.html?filename? |
| 17:41.05 | [dRaCo] | html not, php yes |
| 17:41.06 | NightHawkAtWork | not in HTML, because HTML isn't a language |
| 17:41.08 | fixt | Not exactly how it works no |
| 17:41.13 | fixt | you can do post/get though |
| 17:41.15 | fixt | or use PHP/ASP |
| 17:41.18 | krka_ | html is a language |
| 17:41.22 | krka_ | just not a programming language |
| 17:41.26 | NightHawkAtWork | meh, semantics. :P |
| 17:41.48 | [dRaCo] | html is a markup language, as the name says... |
| 17:41.51 | xyu | i no speakuh de HTMLuh |
| 17:43.05 | Pkekyo | anyone seen art3mis 'round? |
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| 17:44.28 | |Stan| | html is a scripting language |
| 17:44.31 | |Stan| | not a programmign language |
| 17:44.41 | NightHawkAtWork | er, its neither |
| 17:45.05 | sb | html is some site description language :o |
| 17:45.18 | sb | no scripting |
| 17:45.22 | NightHawkAtWork | it's a markup language, as the name explicitly says |
| 17:45.51 | xyu | invented by al gore |
| 17:46.57 | NightHawkAtWork | that joke was never really funny |
| 17:47.36 | Fisker- | OMG VALVE |
| 17:47.38 | Fisker- | say it ain't so |
| 17:47.39 | Fisker- | http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=3483&cc=SE |
| 17:47.45 | Fisker- | The only way to play Peggle Extreme right now is to pre-purchase the Orange Box. Click here for pre-purchase information. |
| 17:47.46 | Fisker- | YES |
| 17:47.51 | xyu | ./comfort it ain't so! |
| 17:48.02 | Fisker- | i want a flaming homosexual gaming experience with my hardcore orange box plz |
| 17:48.05 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, they forgot to add it "or to crack it, which is stupidly easy" |
| 17:49.28 | Ominous_ | how would it be made so that by default wmv files get opened by doing domain.com/embed.php?host=path/to/movie? |
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| 17:49.52 | kenlyric | I get a flaming homosexual gaming experience by playing a blood elf. |
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| 17:50.22 | art3mis | yeah suuip pkek? |
| 17:50.24 | [dRaCo] | Ominous_: omg security risk! |
| 17:50.32 | Ominous_ | ok |
| 17:50.45 | Fisker- | http://storefront.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/message/1189/ |
| 17:50.45 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 17:50.46 | Fisker- | OGM |
| 17:50.46 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 17:50.47 | Fisker- | OGM |
| 17:51.01 | Chompers | :o |
| 17:51.04 | Chompers | wut? |
| 17:51.14 | cncfanatics | I got nothing better to do then buy legal stuff |
| 17:51.15 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 17:51.23 | Chompers | ohmy! |
| 17:51.48 | kenlyric | fuck da orange box |
| 17:51.59 | kenlyric | who the fuck needs the orange box? |
| 17:52.01 | kenlyric | who? |
| 17:52.11 | Pkekyo | art3mis: wondered if you could be arsed to the rest of my art files for me? |
| 17:52.11 | Pkekyo | tried tracing them, but I just can't get it done right for some reason |
| 17:52.11 | kenlyric | who is going to buy HL2 E2 that hasn't bought HL2? |
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| 17:52.52 | |Stan| | enough people bought HL2..no problem |
| 17:52.54 | CIA-22 | 03kameril * r48628 10VisualThemes/AddOns/Baggins.lua: |
| 17:52.54 | CIA-22 | VisualThemes: |
| 17:52.54 | CIA-22 | -If Baggins_Search is loaded then have it update its position on bag frame transitions. |
| 17:53.00 | ulic | Funkeh`: ping |
| 17:53.08 | Coruss | hey folks |
| 17:53.13 | Funkeh` | ulic: ? |
| 17:53.20 | art3mis | Pkekyo: i can give it a shot, send em over and ill see what i can do |
| 17:53.26 | kenlyric | besides, wtf is with "box". it's electronic distribution. |
| 17:53.31 | Coruss | can someone tell me what addon is used for the buff bars this guy has: http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/09/nik2.jpg |
| 17:53.43 | ulic | I posted some of my transcripto log from BM into the LittleWigs thread. It doesn't appear to be recording things right. At least not that time. |
| 17:53.48 | Coruss | right hand side, v-center |
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| 17:53.58 | Pkekyo | art3mis: thanks, appreciated |
| 17:54.07 | |Stan| | Codayus: EBB |
| 17:54.19 | Chompers | ebbs, yeah |
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| 17:54.45 | Coruss | thanks |
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| 17:56.35 | kaiden | Man, has anyone else seen the ForteWarlock addon that was just released on WoWI? That guy has the right idea for designing a configuration panel :) |
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| 17:56.42 | pastamancer | ~seen ckknight |
| 17:56.44 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (2m 50s) #norganna (2m 50s) #wowace (2m 50s), last said: 'alright, I'll cya all later'. |
| 17:56.49 | Funkeh` | ulic: strange |
| 17:56.50 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:56.55 | kaiden | howdy ck |
| 17:57.04 | ckknight | hey pasta |
| 17:57.13 | cncfanatics | yo ckk |
| 17:57.25 | |Stan| | hi ckk |
| 17:57.25 | ulic | Funkeh`: if you have any ideas, I'm more than happy to run in there solo and test them out. |
| 17:57.28 | pastamancer | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/LBAB-1 |
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| 17:58.02 | Funkeh` | ulic: seems to me that its not getting the info properly for some reason |
| 17:58.19 | Funkeh` | ulic: it only prints _ if theres nothing to print basically |
| 17:58.28 | ulic | yea, that's what I assumed |
| 17:58.43 | ulic | maybe in BM they are using index 1 or 2 depending on group, rather than 3? |
| 17:58.55 | kenlyric | valve wants to charge $49.99 for Episode 2 |
| 17:59.03 | kenlyric | they seriously fail. |
| 17:59.16 | pastamancer | ckknight: have you had a chance to look at my proposed changes for the babble-3 core? |
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| 17:59.44 | Funkeh` | ulic: As far as I'm aware 1 and 2 are for alliance/horde? |
| 17:59.51 | Funkeh` | I thought 3 was neutral |
| 18:00.19 | ulic | yea, was just thinking that blizzard did something crazy, since you could only have a party of one faction, maybe the used the faction. Just throwing it out there. |
| 18:00.36 | fixt | How come when i create multiple eePanels then set one of them as parent as the others and place them ontop of eachother and set Level of the child panels to something higher, does it not show ? |
| 18:00.56 | Fisker- | fuck TF2 |
| 18:00.59 | Fisker- | i\m getting peggle extreme |
| 18:01.45 | Fisker- | http://i10.tinypic.com/4lqfoew.jpg |
| 18:01.46 | Fisker- | >D |
| 18:01.47 | Fisker- | :D |
| 18:02.07 | Funkeh` | ulic: if you feel like doing some dieing runs, try changing transcriptor to 1 and 2 and test |
| 18:02.10 | fixt | when is tf2 coming ? |
| 18:02.26 | ulic | Funkeh`: was just logging in to do that. |
| 18:02.30 | kenlyric | september 17th. |
| 18:02.41 | kenlyric | according to the orange box ad just posted. |
| 18:03.08 | ulic | hmm, I'm getting more of 2.2 patch today, must be getting closer. |
| 18:03.27 | ulic | or it's just rechecking the file. |
| 18:04.06 | Funkeh` | nothing for me |
| 18:04.22 | ulic | looks like about a new 21mb worth of stuff for me |
| 18:04.30 | ulic | for a total of 75 |
| 18:04.57 | kenlyric | I can't get background downloader to come up anymore after I killed it once. |
| 18:05.41 | Funkeh` | I opened it up and it recheked mpq1 |
| 18:05.43 | Funkeh` | then closed |
| 18:05.54 | ulic | how big are your files? |
| 18:06.17 | ulic | oh yea, I'm getting a -2.mpq file right now. |
| 18:06.33 | Funkeh` | 71MB or something |
| 18:06.42 | Funkeh` | You in the U.S. ? |
| 18:06.46 | ulic | yep |
| 18:06.53 | Funkeh` | I'm E.U. |
| 18:07.25 | ulic | so maybe they didn't push it to you yet. and your 1.mpq is bigger because of multi-language? |
| 18:07.54 | Funkeh` | Yer |
| 18:08.09 | ulic | oh well, we know, no patch until next week at the earliest, unless they suprise us with a mid-week. |
| 18:08.57 | ckknight | pastamancer: ah yea, a while ago, need to recheck... Also, why did you make ForwardLookup et al on the object instead of local? |
| 18:08.57 | NightHawkAtWork | unlikely |
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| 18:10.01 | Lothaer | any1 here use AA? |
| 18:10.34 | pastamancer | ckknight: I think I did that when I was debugging things. I wrote the lookup metatables last |
| 18:11.00 | Lothaer | for Auctioneer Advanced? |
| 18:11.16 | ulic | I've used it, seems fairly functional. |
| 18:11.21 | fixt | Anyways for some reason my eepanels disappear when parented and placed ontop of parent, any special reason for this ? |
| 18:11.49 | ulic | fixt: dunno, maybe ask ee in the forum thread? |
| 18:11.59 | fixt | it's only visible when panels arent locked |
| 18:12.03 | fixt | second i lock panels they disappear |
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| 18:12.36 | Fisker- | haha |
| 18:12.39 | Fisker- | best mail ever |
| 18:12.39 | Fisker- | PRE-PURCHASE THE ORANGE BOX NOW, PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2 BETA NEXT WEEK |
| 18:12.39 | Fisker- | Pre-Purchasers Also Receive Peggle Extreme! |
| 18:12.41 | Fisker- | :D |
| 18:15.31 | xyu | sdf |
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| 18:15.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48629 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - map OnInstanceInit to OnManualEmbed |
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| 18:16.02 | Ominous_ | hey kaelten |
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| 18:16.26 | Kaelten | i |
| 18:16.28 | Kaelten | hi |
| 18:16.56 | |Stan| | hi Kaelten |
| 18:17.08 | Kaelten | hi |
| 18:17.11 | Lothaer | G'Day mate |
| 18:17.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48630 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - when trying to get all the mixins of an object, check both the Rock mixin group as well as the Ace2 mixin group. |
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| 18:22.15 | Lothaer | yeah i tried using Auctioneer Advanced, didnt like it much |
| 18:23.34 | ulic | new patch file i got is mostly artwork, but some .xml & .lua files. |
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| 18:25.30 | ulic | it is different, takes some getting used to. |
| 18:25.39 | Kaelten | Lothaer: ya same here, the learning curve is to steep imho |
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| 18:26.54 | Lothaer | i hope its a lot better when its released |
| 18:27.15 | NightHawkAtWork | really? I didn't think it was that hard. |
| 18:27.39 | Lothaer | i couldnt even figure out how to Scan the AH |
| 18:27.52 | evl | /auc scan |
| 18:27.53 | evl | :) |
| 18:27.56 | evl | but it's not needed tbh |
| 18:28.03 | evl | it registers anything you search |
| 18:28.08 | Lothaer | and i get a error everythime i open the mailbox and AH frames |
| 18:28.09 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah |
| 18:28.34 | Lothaer | complete AH scan is simpler |
| 18:28.58 | evl | works for me :) |
| 18:29.01 | Lothaer | and when ever i put crap in the AH it was put in at like vendor prices |
| 18:29.04 | evl | made a lot of cash on it. I like the new compact window |
| 18:29.39 | ulic | Lothaer: you use the Appraiser part to post, and it lets you pick different methods for choosing prices. |
| 18:29.55 | Lothaer | i did use that |
| 18:30.29 | ulic | there is a drop down menu, for vendor, fixed, std-dev, market-value, a few others. |
| 18:30.33 | Lothaer | and every option was like 2g for 8 motes of Air, yet the thing that appears on the right was saying 22g recomended price |
| 18:30.38 | Lothaer | i used that |
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| 18:31.06 | Lothaer | every option has the same price except for the fixed price and o1 other one |
| 18:31.06 | ulic | did you click the refesh down at the bottom, it will scan the current posts first |
| 18:31.12 | ulic | hmm |
| 18:31.14 | Lothaer | yes i did |
| 18:31.30 | Lothaer | im not a mod nub i used all options and i went to the AA forums and posted a bug i got |
| 18:31.42 | ulic | I usually just scan the current and then pick a fix price based on other prices. |
| 18:32.12 | ulic | so it's possible I missed those things when I first started using it |
| 18:32.22 | Lothaer | i think i ll just wait for it to get out of beta or alpha or what ever it in |
| 18:32.31 | Lothaer | atm ill jsut stick with Auctioneer 4.0.4 |
| 18:35.14 | Chompers | 404, efficent addon not found |
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| 18:36.09 | ckknight | any thoughts? http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock/Living_Without_AceOO |
| 18:36.45 | Tuller | its not bob dole |
| 18:36.46 | Shirik|Ecole | ckknight: Why not http://wowwiki.com/wiki/OOP |
| 18:37.10 | Pkekyo | art3mis: sent you the files |
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| 18:37.13 | Shirik|Ecole | or is it because you want one on wowace |
| 18:37.23 | ckknight | Shirik|Ecole: it's meant to be Rock-specific |
| 18:37.27 | Shirik|Ecole | ok |
| 18:37.38 | ckknight | I'll link to the wowwiki one, though |
| 18:37.39 | Lothaer | has any1 heard anything about CT_RaidAssist2? |
| 18:38.02 | Shirik|Ecole | why would there be a 2? |
| 18:38.15 | Lothaer | because they were working on 1 |
| 18:38.24 | Shirik|Ecole | 1 or one? |
| 18:38.42 | Lothaer | they were working on one |
| 18:38.47 | Shirik|Ecole | big difference here, please try to use unambiguous english |
| 18:38.49 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide was? |
| 18:38.58 | Shirik|Ecole | (the CT developers) |
| 18:39.02 | Tuller | ckknight: you know you can do inheritance in a sexier way than that, though I would mention it generates garbage |
| 18:39.21 | ckknight | let's hear it |
| 18:39.28 | fixt | can you set Squeenix/minimap level/Strata somehow? |
| 18:40.07 | Shirik|Ecole | Lothaer: I present you Cide |
| 18:40.14 | Shirik|Ecole | =P |
| 18:40.17 | Lothaer | lol |
| 18:40.26 | Shirik|Ecole | bah |
| 18:40.29 | Tuller | setmetatable({}, {__index = self}) should theoretically work, right? |
| 18:40.36 | Shirik|Ecole | 142:402:23 12‹+Cide12› he can come here or pm me if he wants to know! |
| 18:40.37 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 18:40.37 | ckknight | yea |
| 18:40.45 | ckknight | Tuller: that works |
| 18:40.46 | Shirik|Ecole | go join #wowi-lounge and ask :) |
| 18:40.54 | Tuller | then that's the sexier way :P |
| 18:42.12 | fixt | hmm Any minimap mod that will let me change textposition etc ? |
| 18:42.23 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 18:42.25 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 797 messages. Is idling for 49m 5s, last said: 'Pkekyo: i can give it a shot, send em over and ill see what i can do'. |
| 18:43.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | how difficult would heroics be with warrior tank, shaman heal, spriest, druid cat, warrior dps ? |
| 18:43.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | low on cc |
| 18:43.42 | fixt | depends which heroic |
| 18:43.58 | RaydenUni | right now i'm only keyed for auchindoun |
| 18:44.24 | ckknight | okay, Tuller, added it |
| 18:45.14 | Tuller | hurray |
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| 18:51.05 | RaydenUni | do shadow priests generate more threat than other classes often? |
| 18:51.15 | RaydenUni | it seems like i usually have more threat than others |
| 18:52.06 | Hiro | Typically, yes. |
| 18:52.27 | RaydenUni | i was running SL with a 69 paladin tank and i could out threat him with little more than my dots |
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| 18:53.39 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 18:53.48 | Gnarfoz | recommend a meta gem for pve rogues |
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| 18:58.47 | kenlyric | if you have VE up, yes. |
| 18:59.01 | Hiro | especially imp ve |
| 18:59.26 | Hiro | the threat difference alone between 20% and 30% is enough to increase your threat by a truckload |
| 18:59.45 | Pkekyo | aggro from VE is -NOT- fun to keep up with, trust me! |
| 19:00.19 | Pkekyo | almost as hard as grabbing aggro off a mob that some loladin used Shield of Infinite Fucking Threat to pull... |
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| 19:02.24 | the-golem | spriest dps is fail ... |
| 19:02.27 | the-golem | ok not all |
| 19:02.37 | the-golem | but most i've been with |
| 19:02.39 | [dRaCo] | Gnarfoz: that +crit dmg thingy... relentess earthstorm diamond, iirc |
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| 19:03.40 | Gnarfoz | [dRaCo]: yeah, +12agi & +3% crit dm |
| 19:03.43 | the-golem | if a tankadin knows what hes doing |
| 19:03.45 | Gnarfoz | seems like the most logical choice |
| 19:03.54 | the-golem | pulling threat offa him should be neigh impossible |
| 19:04.11 | the-golem | s/threat/aggro |
| 19:04.12 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo: lol they should rename the skill |
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| 19:05.19 | Funkeh` | ulic: any luck? |
| 19:06.09 | fixt | is there some fubar addon or similar that will let you swap between chatframes ? |
| 19:06.14 | fixt | and hide the tab somehow |
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| 19:11.40 | yssaril | what order does "for key, value in pairs(YssGuildShop.db.char.YGSBAG) do func(key,value) end" return the key value? |
| 19:11.58 | Shirik|Ecole | there is no guaranteed order |
| 19:12.02 | Shirik|Ecole | if you want a guarantee, use ipairs |
| 19:12.19 | yssaril | k |
| 19:13.33 | yssaril | ipairs only works on intergers though right? |
| 19:13.38 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 19:13.47 | yssaril | hmmm |
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| 19:16.49 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 19:17.01 | Gnarfoz | the +haste proc metagem doesn't look *too* bad, either |
| 19:17.59 | evl | for what class? |
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| 19:23.42 | fixt | what's a good trinket addon ? |
| 19:24.50 | CIA-22 | 03sinaloit * r48632 10Threat-1.0/ (. Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): |
| 19:24.50 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 19:24.50 | CIA-22 | - Corrected tsvn:logtemplate |
| 19:24.50 | CIA-22 | - Fixed TrinketID comparison |
| 19:25.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48633 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: |
| 19:25.26 | CIA-22 | LibRock-1.0 - fix checking of the current addon with LibRockModuleCore-1.0. |
| 19:25.26 | CIA-22 | - make sure that if addons are loaded in PLAYER_LOGIN, to not mess things up royally by calling OnEnable early. |
| 19:26.05 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48634 10LibRockModuleCore-1.0/LibRockModuleCore-1.0.lua: LibRockModuleCore-1.0 - add support for Ace2 mixins. |
| 19:27.50 | cncfanatics | ckknight, nice catch :p |
| 19:27.58 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:28.02 | ckknight | converting PitBull now |
| 19:28.07 | |Stan| | wohoo |
| 19:28.09 | ckknight | it's so ungodly easy with support of Ace2 mixins |
| 19:28.11 | cncfanatics | i'm still wondering what I should do heh |
| 19:28.14 | ckknight | you know how I do it? |
| 19:28.27 | Tuller | hamsters |
| 19:28.29 | ckknight | I change AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new to Rock:NewAddon |
| 19:28.35 | ckknight | and then see if it all works (it should) |
| 19:28.42 | ckknight | and then change the mixins over, one at a time. |
| 19:28.46 | cncfanatics | ckknight, if Rock supports Ace2 mixins, I can just mixin Ace2OO, PaintChipsLibs & SpecialEvents pretty much ? |
| 19:28.54 | ckknight | yea, basically. |
| 19:29.02 | cncfanatics | thats just, sexy |
| 19:29.06 | Pkekyo | GnarfozPkekyo: lol they should rename the skill <--------- I concur! |
| 19:29.06 | ckknight | though those aren't mixins, actually |
| 19:29.09 | ckknight | those are just libraries |
| 19:29.15 | cncfanatics | true enough :) |
| 19:29.29 | ckknight | also, cncfanatics: http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock/Living_Without_AceOO |
| 19:29.56 | cncfanatics | thats actualy gonna simplify stuff |
| 19:30.16 | cncfanatics | I'll add my own lil OO part in my core.lua file I think |
| 19:30.27 | cncfanatics | for the rest, can still use PaintChipsLib & SpecialEventsAura so i'm fine |
| 19:30.32 | cncfanatics | (specialevents aura is sooo godly) |
| 19:30.59 | ckknight | yep. |
| 19:31.23 | cncfanatics | if I do it right, only thing I should have to change in my modules is the FlexBar2.OO.Mixin {} line |
| 19:31.38 | ckknight | yea, basically |
| 19:31.46 | cncfanatics | think this'll be a breeze |
| 19:31.46 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r48635 10BigWigs/ (19 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: Minor speedups and tweaks |
| 19:31.49 | |Stan| | ckknight: will you update some of the libs,too? |
| 19:31.54 | cncfanatics | can u tell me when u think its ready for taking FB? |
| 19:32.05 | ckknight | |Stan|: yea |
| 19:32.10 | ckknight | cncfanatics: will do |
| 19:32.13 | |Stan| | :D |
| 19:32.14 | ckknight | my guess: later this week |
| 19:32.17 | |Stan| | *jumps around* |
| 19:33.20 | Funkeh` | |Stan|: go masturbate or something already |
| 19:33.29 | |Stan| | Funkeh`: again? |
| 19:33.30 | Gnarfoz | evl: rogue |
| 19:33.52 | evl | Gnarfoz: relentless is better, even before haste nerf |
| 19:34.30 | Gnarfoz | figured as much, from the wowhead comments |
| 19:34.37 | cncfanatics | ckknight, good |
| 19:34.45 | yssaril | what is preferd to use ipairs or just for k=1,tablemaxn(sometable) do func() end? (which one is faster?) |
| 19:34.46 | Gnarfoz | proc rate on the haste one is too low, and haste gets nerfed soon |
| 19:34.51 | cncfanatics | also, little request, would u mind helping me building a new UI ? :) cuz i'm gonna have to rewrite that pretty much |
| 19:35.00 | ckknight | UI? |
| 19:35.06 | ckknight | for config? |
| 19:35.07 | cncfanatics | Waterfall shit in Ace2 |
| 19:35.14 | cncfanatics | RockConfig I supose u called it |
| 19:35.14 | ckknight | oh, it's mostly just renaming stuff |
| 19:35.19 | ulic | Funkeh`: ping |
| 19:35.19 | cncfanatics | not in my case |
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| 19:35.25 | ckknight | yes, yes, it is |
| 19:35.26 | cncfanatics | I called the waterfall API directly, didn't use AceOptions tables |
| 19:35.30 | Funkeh` | yer ulic |
| 19:35.32 | ckknight | ohh.... |
| 19:35.34 | cncfanatics | I doubt ur API is the same |
| 19:35.38 | ckknight | yea, it'll be different. |
| 19:35.41 | cncfanatics | so its a rewrite for meh |
| 19:35.41 | ckknight | I don't have an API like that |
| 19:35.51 | ulic | Funkeh`: it uses index 1 for the shield and index 2 for the rifts, in Black Morass. |
| 19:36.00 | Funkeh` | oh fuck off |
| 19:36.03 | cncfanatics | ckknight, how so ? u got to call something after parsing the table don't ya ? |
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| 19:36.15 | Shirik|Ecole | yssaril: ipairs will be faster |
| 19:36.22 | Shirik|Ecole | and tablemaxn is evil |
| 19:36.25 | Shirik|Ecole | beyond all means |
| 19:36.28 | Shirik|Ecole | table.maxn* |
| 19:36.34 | Funkeh` | ulic: have fun wiht that |
| 19:36.50 | Shirik|Ecole | ipairs can honestly be on the order of hundreds of times faster |
| 19:36.52 | yssaril | i like evil though :P (will use ipairs to make it faster though ) |
| 19:36.52 | ckknight | cncfanatics: it builds it directly from the table, not from intermediary methods |
| 19:36.54 | Shirik|Ecole | depending on he size of your table |
| 19:37.01 | ulic | well for LittleWigs I could care less about the shield :) I'm more interested in the timin on the rifts. |
| 19:37.14 | Shirik|Ecole | table.maxn has to first go through the entire table (using pairs(), no less) to determine the maximum index |
| 19:37.16 | Funkeh` | Yeah true |
| 19:37.21 | Shirik|Ecole | from there you go from 1 to that number. |
| 19:37.25 | yssaril | table size would be anyware from 0 to 300 keys |
| 19:37.31 | Shirik|Ecole | ipairs on the other hand simply starts at 1 and goes until it finds a nil |
| 19:37.36 | yssaril | maybe slightly bigger though |
| 19:37.39 | Shirik|Ecole | No searching, no nothing. Just go |
| 19:37.46 | ulic | it shouldn't be to bad, I can just hack my copy of transcriptor to log the rifts, so I can check the timestamps and stuff. |
| 19:37.54 | ulic | just thought I'd pass on what I learned. |
| 19:38.00 | cncfanatics | ckknight, I see |
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| 19:38.12 | cncfanatics | waterfall had a different creation process I guess |
| 19:38.17 | ckknight | which actually makes it much more powerful and simpler |
| 19:38.18 | Shirik|Ecole | For the same reasoning, ipairs will be faster than pairs where you can use it |
| 19:38.19 | yssaril | Shirik|Ecole: so the bigger the table the faster ipairs becomes? |
| 19:38.19 | ckknight | yes, very different |
| 19:38.27 | Shirik|Ecole | yssaril: ipairs is O(n) |
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| 19:38.35 | cncfanatics | Waterfall was from the ground up built with the API, and then acetables support was added later on |
| 19:38.43 | Xinhuan | Shirik|AFK: you can also do a = 1; while (t[a]) do BLAH; a = a + 1; end |
| 19:38.43 | Shirik|Ecole | your code above is at least O(n^2) |
| 19:38.44 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 19:38.51 | cncfanatics | and I just LOVE the waterfall API tbh, its way handyer then stupid Ace2OptionTables |
| 19:39.02 | cncfanatics | (I hate those :p hope urs are more dynamic and allowing) |
| 19:40.19 | ulic | hehe, it counts medivh's shield past 0, into minuses :P |
| 19:40.39 | Funkeh` | err |
| 19:40.52 | Funkeh` | Blizz need to be less lazy sometimes with crap like that |
| 19:40.55 | ckknight | cncfanatics: unlike AceOptions, every single field can be a function |
| 19:41.00 | ulic | yea, oh well. |
| 19:41.05 | cncfanatics | ckknight, I guess i'll see when I use it :) |
| 19:41.06 | ckknight | cncfanatics: which means you can return whatever you want on the fly |
| 19:41.10 | Shirik|Ecole | Actually now that I've thought about it, yssaril |
| 19:41.23 | Shirik|Ecole | ipairs will be O(n), your loop will be at least O(n^3) |
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| 19:41.40 | Shirik|Ecole | So yeah, use ipairs :) For a 300-entry table you're talking about a speed difference of... |
| 19:41.50 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> 300^3-300 |
| 19:41.50 | cncfanatics | ckknight, it basicly does if(type(bla) == "function") then val = bla(); elseif(type(bla) ~= nil) then val = bla; end |
| 19:41.50 | cladbot | Shirik|Ecole: 26999700 |
| 19:41.54 | Shirik|Ecole | that many times :P |
| 19:42.12 | FrostByghte | is there a method to hide pet and player frames except when in combat with pitbull or something else? |
| 19:42.12 | ckknight | cncfanatics: slightly more complicated, but you got the gist |
| 19:42.28 | cncfanatics | I'll get reading some code tomorrow I think |
| 19:42.30 | Xinhuan | shirik, you realise when you do a for a = 1, b loop, b is only evaluated once? |
| 19:42.36 | Xinhuan | it doesn't run table.maxn once per loop |
| 19:42.37 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 19:42.45 | Shirik|Ecole | but that's not important |
| 19:42.59 | Shirik|Ecole | table.maxn has to iterate over the entire table. ipairs never looks at the table aside from testing for nil |
| 19:43.12 | Shirik|Ecole | and his code still has to index the table anyway |
| 19:43.17 | cncfanatics | ckknight, when converting FB, there's a good chance I might need features and only realize while coding ? ur open for feature requests ? |
| 19:43.18 | Xinhuan | yeah hence i suggested an alternative using a while loop |
| 19:43.19 | Shirik|Ecole | whereas ipairs gives you the value |
| 19:43.22 | ckknight | actually, maxn doesn't do that, Shirik|Ecole |
| 19:43.26 | cncfanatics | (not useless stuff only my addon will sue ofc, can do that myself) |
| 19:43.27 | ckknight | getn does |
| 19:43.29 | ckknight | maxn is already set |
| 19:43.32 | Shirik|Ecole | negative |
| 19:43.34 | Shirik|Ecole | you have it backwards |
| 19:43.43 | Shirik|Ecole | getn returns what you gave setn |
| 19:43.54 | ckknight | welcome to Lua 5.1, shirik |
| 19:44.03 | Shirik|Ecole | setn and getn are both deprecated, too, in 5.1 |
| 19:44.03 | Xinhuan | or you can just use #table |
| 19:44.09 | FrostByghte | ckknight, is there a method to hide the player/pet frames in pitbull when out of combat? :) |
| 19:44.12 | Xinhuan | which is official |
| 19:44.12 | Shirik|Ecole | Xinhuan: Not always the same as ipairs |
| 19:44.26 | ckknight | cncfanatics: well, yes, that's why I'm converting mine over now, in case I think of something or run into a bug |
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| 19:44.40 | cncfanatics | hmmm, remember me what addons u converting ? |
| 19:44.42 | FrostByghte | I was reading a bit, saw something about visor but wasn't sure if that was the direction to head in |
| 19:45.01 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> t = {1,2}; t[4] = 4; for x = 1, #t print(t[x]) end |
| 19:45.01 | cladbot | Shirik|Ecole: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "t = {1,2}; t[4] = 4; for x = 1, #t print(t[x]) end"]:1: 'do' expected near 'print' |
| 19:45.12 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> t = {1,2}; t[4] = 4; for x = 1, #t do print(t[x]) end |
| 19:45.12 | cladbot | Shirik|Ecole: 1, 2, nil, 4 |
| 19:45.20 | yssaril | alright so no matter what maxn does ipairs should be as fast if not faster right ? |
| 19:45.30 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> t = {1,2}; t[4] = 4; for k, v in ipairs(t) do print(v) end |
| 19:45.30 | cladbot | Shirik|Ecole: 1, 2 |
| 19:45.34 | Shirik|Ecole | see the difference? :) |
| 19:45.41 | Shirik|Ecole | yssaril: Correct |
| 19:45.54 | yssaril | ok thats all i needed to know :P |
| 19:46.07 | cncfanatics | its mainly C > lua |
| 19:46.14 | cncfanatics | don't do stuff in lua u can let C do, ever |
| 19:46.50 | Cidan | That's the silliest thing I have ever heard. |
| 19:47.18 | ckknight | yea, that is silly |
| 19:47.21 | cncfanatics | how is lua faster then C then ? :o |
| 19:47.32 | Shirik|Ecole | they should be approximately the same, actually |
| 19:47.44 | ckknight | depending on the situation, of course |
| 19:47.48 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah, I mean in this case |
| 19:47.57 | Shirik|Ecole | since the function,whether you call it from lua or C, is still the same function |
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| 19:48.12 | Shirik|Ecole | The reason ipairs is faster here is merely because of the way it's testing the table |
| 19:48.19 | cncfanatics | my basic understanding has been that C code beats lua code, speed wise, which is also why blizz is converting its whole macro system into C ? |
| 19:48.21 | Shirik|Ecole | it doesn't care to look at what the values are, what's in the table, whatever |
| 19:48.27 | Shirik|Ecole | it merely looks to see if the value is nil |
| 19:48.36 | Shirik|Ecole | so long as it's not nil, it keeps on chugging |
| 19:48.56 | Shirik|Ecole | #table has to calculate the size. table.maxn(t) has to iterate over the entire table |
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| 19:49.18 | Shirik|Ecole | pairs has to hold state |
| 19:49.36 | Shirik|Ecole | In general, ipairs will always be the fastest way to traverse a table. (Whether or not you're allowed to use it may be another question) |
| 19:49.43 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {}; t[1] = 1; t[5] = 5; print #t; |
| 19:49.43 | cladbot | Xinhuan: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "t = {}; t[1] = 1; t[5] = 5; print #t;"]:1: '=' expected near '#' |
| 19:49.45 | fixt | is there some fubar addon or similar that will let you swap between chatframes ? and also hide the tabs of the chatwindows ? |
| 19:49.57 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {}; t[1] = 1; t[5] = 5; print(#t); |
| 19:49.57 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 1 |
| 19:50.05 | cncfanatics | bad answer :o |
| 19:50.11 | sb | mhhh |
| 19:50.14 | sb | how to nuke solarian? :p |
| 19:50.22 | sb | dps phase 1 to 70% is easy |
| 19:50.27 | sb | but what to do then? |
| 19:50.34 | Shirik|Ecole | Xinhuan: And that's where the tricky stuff between the for loop and ipairs comes in |
| 19:50.40 | sb | ae starts killing ppl |
| 19:50.47 | Shirik|Ecole | Technically what you just wrote there is actually not even guaranteed to always print that |
| 19:50.48 | Xinhuan | sb: when he disappears, adds spawn right? |
| 19:50.54 | Xinhuan | gather them up, aoe them all |
| 19:50.54 | si-m1 | nuke, nuke, aoe aoe, interrupt, interrupt, repeat |
| 19:51.01 | Xinhuan | and have 2 rogues get on the 2 priests |
| 19:51.04 | sb | yup... no problem so far |
| 19:51.06 | Xinhuan | kill those 2 priests |
| 19:51.10 | Xinhuan | then get back on the boss |
| 19:51.10 | sb | but raid-wide ae (that moonfire thing) |
| 19:51.13 | Xinhuan | repeat 3 times |
| 19:51.15 | sb | starts to kill ppl |
| 19:51.24 | si-m1 | mind the arcane dmg debuff |
| 19:51.29 | Xinhuan | the debuff should never stack more than 8 sb |
| 19:51.39 | sb | till boss death? :o |
| 19:51.39 | sb | okay |
| 19:51.46 | Xinhuan | because you only do p1 -> p2 -> p1 -> p2 -> p1 --> p3 |
| 19:51.48 | cncfanatics | Shirik|Ecole, to get 2 returned in Xinhaun's code u'd have to use pairs right ? |
| 19:51.59 | durcyn | sb, are you using arcane tanks? |
| 19:52.00 | Shirik|Ecole | you... /could/ do it with table.maxn |
| 19:52.06 | Shirik|Ecole | though you'd get nils in the middle |
| 19:52.10 | sb | durcyn: no - nuke |
| 19:52.15 | Shirik|Ecole | but yes |
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| 19:52.31 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {}; t[1] = 1; t[5] = 5; print(#t); print(table.maxn(t)); print(table.getn(t)); |
| 19:52.31 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 1, 5, 1 |
| 19:52.40 | cncfanatics | either way, if lua and C are the same in speed, why is blizzard rewriting its whole macro system in C ? |
| 19:52.58 | Shirik|Ecole | fyi Xinhuan, table.getn() is deprecated in 5.1 and should never be used :) |
| 19:53.11 | Xinhuan | so maxn seems to get the last modified largest numerical index value |
| 19:53.12 | Shirik|Ecole | cncfanatics: Because messing with strings is very fast in C |
| 19:53.25 | cncfanatics | aah, yea, no stupid garbage generated ? |
| 19:53.26 | Shirik|Ecole | but calling the same Lua function in C will still only be as fast as if Lua code called it |
| 19:53.38 | Shirik|Ecole | from C, they can use things like strtok, etc. |
| 19:53.45 | Shirik|Ecole | mess with the char* directly |
| 19:53.52 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {}; t[2] = 1; t[5] = 5; print(#t); print(table.maxn(t)); print(table.getn(t)); |
| 19:53.52 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 0, 5, 0 |
| 19:53.59 | cncfanatics | yea, and not generate garbage, I see |
| 19:54.06 | cncfanatics | I assumed for some reason that C speed > lua speed |
| 19:54.23 | cncfanatics | probably because its precompiled (which will give it a speed advantage at loading, but not during runtime)- |
| 19:54.26 | Shirik|Ecole | String speed in Lua is comparatively slow beause every string manipulation means that a new string needs to be created |
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| 19:54.41 | Shirik|Ecole | since strings are interned |
| 19:54.55 | Shirik|Ecole | string.match, specifically, is extremely slow |
| 19:55.01 | Shirik|Ecole | (again, relatively) |
| 19:55.04 | cncfanatics | yea, which is shit for any advanced string manipulation stuff |
| 19:55.11 | Cidan | C will always be faster than any HLL your code uses through C, even if it's something tiny. |
| 19:55.14 | Cidan | buttt |
| 19:55.32 | Cidan | doesn't make it the best way to handle a task |
| 19:55.33 | sylvanaar | Shirik|Ecole the ctraid/prat issue is just ctraid getting confused by reformatted chat text. i dont think that feature is even needed anymore |
| 19:55.36 | cncfanatics | hmmm, lua code is compiled isnt it ? shldnt it be the same |
| 19:55.51 | Shirik|Ecole | ah interesting sylvanaar :) |
| 19:56.12 | cncfanatics | more questions, string.format, calls the C function to generate less garbage I supose ? |
| 19:56.16 | sylvanaar | Shirik|Ecole ctraid uses: (|Hplayer:.-|h%[)([%w]+)(%]) |
| 19:56.19 | Shirik|Ecole | cncfanatics: It is compiled to lua bytecode |
| 19:56.25 | Shirik|Ecole | sylvanaar: aha that's it |
| 19:56.28 | cncfanatics | (as it has the same syntax as sprintf if I remember well (been a while since I did any C) |
| 19:56.28 | Cidan | it's still run in a virtual machine |
| 19:56.35 | ergh99 | can someone tell me why SendChatMessage("Hello world!") gets me a Usage message? |
| 19:56.38 | yssaril | sylvanaar: the last update after last nights to WAU went thru without erasing my settings |
| 19:56.50 | sylvanaar | yssaril it was a revert |
| 19:56.55 | yssaril | ahh |
| 19:57.03 | Xinhuan | ergh99: SendChatMessage has 4 arguments |
| 19:57.03 | cncfanatics | ergh99, what does the usage message say ? |
| 19:57.06 | yssaril | ergh99: who are you sending it to and what channel |
| 19:57.08 | ulic | ThraeBot: api SendChatMessage |
| 19:57.09 | ThraeBot | ulic: SendChatMessage("msg" [, "chatType" [, "language" ] [, "channel" ]]); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage |
| 19:57.29 | ergh99 | i read that as the last 3 arguments being optional |
| 19:57.34 | ergh99 | is that not true? |
| 19:57.35 | sylvanaar | Shirik|Ecole this is what matches "<|Hplayer:Kimina:2488|h|cffd8d83f70|r:|cffffffffKimina|r|h>: ok.. test [", "Netherbloom", "]" |
| 19:57.40 | Xinhuan | its probably not true |
| 19:57.41 | Cidan | Then perhaps you should update the wiki, :P |
| 19:57.59 | ergh99 | I'm just looking to get a debug print in /s |
| 19:58.03 | cncfanatics | Shirik|Ecole, how slow are string operations in lua compared to C ? |
| 19:58.08 | Xinhuan | the 2nd argument is compulsory i think |
| 19:58.15 | Funkeh` | They are optional |
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| 19:58.30 | Shirik|Ecole | cncfanatics: Depends on what you're doing |
| 19:58.31 | sylvanaar | Shirik|Ecole it wont match at all if there is a space between the [ ] because of ([%w]+) |
| 19:58.33 | Funkeh` | Only first 2 are necesarry |
| 19:58.41 | ergh99 | ok |
| 19:58.48 | Shirik|Ecole | sylvanaar got it :) |
| 19:58.57 | Shirik|Ecole | cncfanatics: That's a very difficult question to answer |
| 19:59.08 | Funkeh` | eg SendChatMessage("shut up", "SAY") |
| 19:59.21 | yssaril | ergh99: if you just need debugging use DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("|cffffffff" .. msg) that will throw it in the console and wont spam other people with it |
| 20:00.10 | ergh99 | thanks! |
| 20:00.10 | cncfanatics | if he's using SendChatMessage i'm guessing he actualy wants to spam other people with it ? |
| 20:00.10 | Shirik|Ecole | ergh99: The arguments are definitely optional |
| 20:00.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Are you sure you're typing it correctly? |
| 20:00.24 | ergh99 | nah, just a total n00b |
| 20:00.31 | ergh99 | quite sure |
| 20:00.58 | Funkeh` | He/she didn't define where to output. |
| 20:01.01 | cncfanatics | if he's getting a usage message then I guess he has no syntax errors |
| 20:01.02 | ergh99 | SendChatMessage(playerClass, nil); gets usage |
| 20:01.12 | Shirik|Ecole | are you sure playerClass is not nil? |
| 20:01.13 | ergh99 | SendChatMessage(playerClass); also gets usage |
| 20:01.17 | yssaril | i mean spamming people is fun and all but if you are like me my debug code would get me DCed everytime i turn it on :P |
| 20:01.21 | Xinhuan | so in Atlasloot Enhanced, the loot tables has BTPatterns table, but the stand alone version of Atlasloot Enhanced has no way to access/show that table |
| 20:01.25 | Shirik|Ecole | because I know for a fact that if you leave out the second parameter, it defaults to "SAY" |
| 20:01.32 | ergh99 | pretty sure, but i can check |
| 20:01.45 | art3mis | ever notice that if you're walking in a bad part of town and see a gang of "thugs" if you look at one of them and nod yer head, they willl almost unconciously nod thier head back and leave you alone, but almost immediately harass the person verbal that walks after you? |
| 20:02.03 | cncfanatics | yssaril, same here lol |
| 20:02.06 | cncfanatics | debug code is REALLY spammy |
| 20:02.12 | Shirik|Ecole | art3mis: Luckily... I don't live in such an area |
| 20:02.19 | art3mis | im in nyc ;_) |
| 20:02.25 | art3mis | its inevitable for me |
| 20:02.37 | Cidan | er, no. |
| 20:02.43 | Cidan | I just nod my head |
| 20:02.45 | cncfanatics | I live on wevelgem lol, such a lost town in the mon |
| 20:02.51 | fixt | Never look in the eye of someone if you think you'll flinch/look away |
| 20:02.55 | fixt | sign of weekness =D |
| 20:02.58 | fixt | just invites trouble |
| 20:03.01 | art3mis | laugh |
| 20:03.07 | art3mis | thats such a crock |
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| 20:03.16 | art3mis | confident, not arrogant ;P |
| 20:03.32 | ergh99 | you were right, playerClass was nil |
| 20:03.52 | art3mis | ive hung out in the worst palces of new york for my delivery job before and never had trouble. ive even ahd people offer to "watch out for me" while iw as there |
| 20:03.56 | cncfanatics | fixt, who says he'd flinch/look away ? |
| 20:04.00 | art3mis | my neighbor hood is hilarious |
| 20:04.07 | art3mis | its getting gentrified |
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| 20:04.19 | art3mis | the blacks that live here are all "black" towards evweryone BUT me |
| 20:04.44 | yssaril | is there an easy way to merge two tables? |
| 20:04.51 | art3mis | theres one group that stands on the corner near my local deli, for everyone else they dont move and make them walk around |
| 20:05.02 | art3mis | for me they actually step aside so i can "short cut" |
| 20:05.10 | cncfanatics | art3mis :o nice privilege :p |
| 20:05.33 | cncfanatics | lol, guess ur just not as much of an asshole as you make up to be on this chan xD |
| 20:05.36 | art3mis | mostly because i stop and chat with em as though i just dont know any better and without fail my mp3 player is usually on an nwa or public enemy track ;P |
| 20:05.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48637 10LibRockModuleCore-1.0/LibRockModuleCore-1.0.lua: LibRockModuleCore-1.0 - fix bug with default state of modules. |
| 20:05.51 | art3mis | oh no im an asshole, heh im just thier type of asshole ;P |
| 20:06.03 | art3mis | we stand around and make fun of the hipsters |
| 20:06.33 | art3mis | oh and i think they get a "crazy" vibe from me since i wear shorts in new york winters |
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| 20:06.43 | cncfanatics | ok, then ur an as big asshole as you make up to be :) |
| 20:06.49 | ckknight | hooray for gentrification |
| 20:06.50 | art3mis | laugh |
| 20:06.53 | cncfanatics | oh, and being crazy, whats wrong with that ? |
| 20:07.01 | cncfanatics | depending on how crazy ofc ... |
| 20:07.06 | art3mis | i mvoed here 3 years ago before the hipsters started |
| 20:07.11 | cncfanatics | (bad subject to bring up, change PLX :p) |
| 20:07.19 | art3mis | im just more accepted than they will ever be i spose ;P |
| 20:08.00 | cncfanatics | moooo |
| 20:08.03 | art3mis | ckknight: yeah it actually pisses me off in this neighborhood because aside from the familys selling for about 1.2mill per brownstone, its mostly a family area |
| 20:08.03 | cncfanatics | glad I live in the g'old belgium |
| 20:08.07 | cncfanatics | it has its problems, but its ok |
| 20:08.18 | art3mis | im sure some of them were foreclosed on too |
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| 20:08.24 | ckknight | 1.2 for how big of a lot? |
| 20:08.31 | ergh99 | how do i print a boolean? |
| 20:08.36 | art3mis | typical seasame street brownstone |
| 20:08.42 | Shirik|Ecole | ergh99: tostring(val) |
| 20:08.44 | ergh99 | seems the java concatentation trick doesn't work |
| 20:08.45 | ckknight | ergh99: um, using what? |
| 20:08.50 | art3mis | about 15-20feet wide 75ish feet deep |
| 20:08.51 | ckknight | Java? |
| 20:08.52 | ergh99 | duh, i knew that (thanks!) |
| 20:08.53 | Shirik|Ecole | or you can do (val and "true" or "false") |
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| 20:09.25 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> v = true; print("Foo"..v); |
| 20:09.25 | cladbot | Shirik|Ecole: [string "v = true; print("Foo"..v);"]:1: attempt to concatenate global 'v' (a boolean value) |
| 20:09.28 | cncfanatics | that would also print true if val was not a boolean ? |
| 20:09.42 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah but I assumed he could assert that it was |
| 20:09.50 | cncfanatics | !api assert |
| 20:09.51 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_assert |
| 20:09.52 | ckknight | just do tostring |
| 20:09.54 | Shirik|Ecole | not that assert |
| 20:09.57 | Shirik|Ecole | the english assert |
| 20:10.01 | Shirik|Ecole | "Ensure" "Be sure of" |
| 20:10.09 | cncfanatics | meh, thanks for a new word :p |
| 20:10.16 | ckknight | assert(YourMom) |
| 20:10.19 | yssaril | is there an easy way to merge 2 tables? |
| 20:10.22 | Shirik|Ecole | however, assert is indeed a function :) |
| 20:10.38 | ckknight | well, I got PitBull running on Rock |
| 20:10.39 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:10.45 | ckknight | well, sorta |
| 20:10.47 | NightHawkAtWork | which, not coincidentally, has realtively the same meaning as the word :P |
| 20:10.48 | Shirik|Ecole | assert(v[,err]) -- Ensures v evaluates to true. If it does not, throws error err. |
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| 20:10.53 | Shirik|Ecole | there's your documentation :P |
| 20:11.02 | cncfanatics | ckknight, there's a huge difference between "running", 'running' and running :) |
| 20:11.18 | ckknight | cncfanatics: it runs, it works, it's just only 10% Rock |
| 20:11.31 | FtH|Daemona | wow, will we see a patchday next week? i am getting a 2nd push via bg downloader |
| 20:11.42 | Shirik|Ecole | very possible |
| 20:11.52 | cncfanatics | ckknight, so its basicly an Ace2-Rock hybrid mod :) |
| 20:11.53 | yssaril | ckknight so pitbull is 10%rock 90% ace? |
| 20:12.10 | art3mis | http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/rfs/418650275.html <-- example of about 5 blocks from me |
| 20:12.11 | ckknight | yea, basically |
| 20:12.36 | cncfanatics | ckknight, what parts not converted yet ? |
| 20:13.01 | art3mis | http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/rfs/417422608.html <-- this is closer to what i live in presently and most of the hosues directly around me |
| 20:13.02 | Fisker- | i never had as much lulz Punkie` |
| 20:13.09 | ckknight | I just converted it to use Rock instead of AceAddon and to use LibRockModuleCore-1.0 instead of AceModuleCore-2.0 |
| 20:13.13 | ckknight | and it works |
| 20:13.17 | ckknight | which is what I wanted |
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| 20:15.44 | Punkie` | sup Fisker- |
| 20:16.22 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna have fun times redo'ing my UI for sure :) |
| 20:16.39 | cncfanatics | ckknight, some things though, my UI is kinda very weird, and i'm a bit scared I might need very major redo'ing |
| 20:16.55 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:17.05 | cncfanatics | currently the core sets up a basic ui layout, and modules can add to that, (it basicly loops through all modules and executes their code too) |
| 20:17.12 | cncfanatics | still possible with RockConfig ? |
| 20:17.15 | cncfanatics | I supose so |
| 20:17.17 | cncfanatics | I'd just merge the tables |
| 20:17.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | RaydenUni doesn't exist on US Destromath. |
| 20:17.32 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://reputation.mygamesonline.org |
| 20:17.33 | RaydenUnicyclist | what the? |
| 20:18.01 | RaydenUnicyclist | does that work for any of you? none of my guildmembers are showing up either |
| 20:18.23 | cncfanatics | ckknight, if u got any working config screens yet, mind screenshotting me some ? |
| 20:18.36 | Punkie` | RaydenUnicyclist: works for me |
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| 20:18.40 | ckknight | you're free to check out Parrot and CowTip |
| 20:18.45 | RaydenUnicyclist | maybe just destromath is borked |
| 20:19.09 | cncfanatics | ckknight, I will with Parrot for sure |
| 20:19.25 | Fisker- | Punkie` :( |
| 20:19.28 | Punkie` | sup! |
| 20:19.28 | cncfanatics | CowTip , I didn't like when I tried, I only tried it in its early phase though, so i'll see |
| 20:19.44 | Fisker- | apparently i abused my trial membership because i made apparently badmouthing posts about another guild! |
| 20:19.48 | Cyrez | cncfanatics: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/CowTip/Rock/CowTip |
| 20:19.51 | yssaril | RaydenUnicyclist: broke for me too |
| 20:19.58 | Punkie` | where Fisker-? |
| 20:20.07 | Fisker- | on my ex-guilds forums |
| 20:20.16 | Fisker- | they were pretty much bad mouthing our guild and our gm |
| 20:20.18 | Punkie` | lame |
| 20:20.24 | Fisker- | so i just went in and set the record straight with some points |
| 20:20.26 | Punkie` | get a /b/ raid to it |
| 20:20.29 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:20.34 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48638 10/branches/PitBull/: PitBull - prepare for Rock branch |
| 20:20.35 | deltron | lol |
| 20:20.45 | deltron | b is not your personal army |
| 20:20.51 | Fisker- | it is |
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| 20:21.05 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48639 10PitBull/: PitBull - prepare for Rock branch |
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| 20:21.41 | Fisker- | so now because i made some corrections to their flameposts i am apparently making a ditch between the respective members friendship |
| 20:21.41 | cncfanatics | either way, i'm getting some sleep |
| 20:21.47 | yssaril | ckknight: all the addons will upgrade to Rock just fine and we wont have to reconfigure them right? |
| 20:21.48 | Fisker- | and he's trying to get me kicked |
| 20:21.53 | ckknight | yssaril: that's the idea |
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| 20:22.23 | cncfanatics | ckknight, there's some converting code in RockDB to get AceDB stuff or is it just the exact same syntax so it doesnt have to do anything ? |
| 20:22.30 | FtH|Daemona | hey ckknight http://tinyurl.com/39uohb :X scnr |
| 20:22.43 | ckknight | cncfanatics: same syntax, just algorithm changes, afaik |
| 20:22.53 | ckknight | it's possible that something might break, but from what I've seen, that's not the case. |
| 20:23.06 | ckknight | lol, FtH|Daemona |
| 20:23.12 | cncfanatics | I don't use any of the fancy DB features, I just store my tables in it, shouldnt be a prob from me |
| 20:23.24 | cncfanatics | though it can store some pretty nasty table hierarchy sometimes |
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| 20:24.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48640 10PitBull/PitBull/: PitBull - branch to Rock |
| 20:25.34 | cncfanatics | time to get to bed, g'night people |
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| 20:30.09 | |Stan| | ckknight: tell me when It's ready to be tested |
| 20:30.28 | ckknight | alright |
| 20:30.33 | ckknight | it'll be a little while |
| 20:30.52 | |Stan| | ok :) |
| 20:31.05 | sb | meh solarian 25% :p |
| 20:31.12 | sb | 65% in p1 is okay? |
| 20:31.12 | evl | now that's a deal! |
| 20:31.22 | evl | 45$ for hl2, hl2 ep1+2, tf2 AND portal?! |
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| 20:31.42 | Cidan | and beta, too |
| 20:31.54 | |Stan| | lost coast, too |
| 20:32.30 | |Stan| | oh and peggle extreme when you pre-order |
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| 20:34.54 | Punkie` | £25 from amazon for the dvd |
| 20:34.55 | Punkie` | cool |
| 20:35.02 | evl | dvd? |
| 20:35.12 | evl | why the fuck would you want it non-digital |
| 20:35.21 | Punkie` | because then i dont need to download it |
| 20:35.31 | Fisker- | yeha |
| 20:35.31 | Xinhuan | sb: anything better than 75% in p1 is good |
| 20:35.32 | evl | what if you lose the dvd |
| 20:35.33 | Fisker- | peggle extreme ftw |
| 20:35.40 | Punkie` | you can still download it later |
| 20:35.42 | Fisker- | seriously without peggle in it i wouldn't have bought it |
| 20:35.43 | Punkie` | from steam |
| 20:35.48 | sb | Xinhuan: mhh okay |
| 20:35.54 | Chompers | oh Fisker- |
| 20:35.54 | Xinhuan | sb: if you miss the 20% mark before the 4th p1, just burn him below 20% |
| 20:35.56 | sb | need to get other things right |
| 20:35.57 | Chompers | you scamp |
| 20:35.59 | Xinhuan | then kill the priests |
| 20:36.11 | Xinhuan | because he changes into a tank/spank boss at 20% |
| 20:36.15 | Xinhuan | and no longer does anything special |
| 20:36.16 | Fisker- | you can also give out the copies of HL2 and Episode One if you already own them |
| 20:36.17 | sb | hmyep |
| 20:36.17 | Punkie` | does orangebox install a rootkit btw? |
| 20:36.19 | sb | i know |
| 20:36.20 | sb | easy then |
| 20:36.22 | Fisker- | so that's awesome |
| 20:36.24 | sb | with 1/2 raid |
| 20:36.26 | Fisker- | no Punkie` |
| 20:36.29 | Punkie` | nice! |
| 20:36.32 | Fisker- | it installs your mother |
| 20:36.36 | Chompers | :O |
| 20:36.40 | Chompers | digitised? |
| 20:36.45 | FtH|Daemona | got a nude patch? |
| 20:36.56 | Fisker- | you wouldn't want it even if it existed |
| 20:37.05 | Chompers | flab patch |
| 20:37.27 | Fisker- | but pretty amazing value with the orange box |
| 20:37.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48641 10PitBull/PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull.toc PitBull_MetaLayout.lua embeds.xml): |
| 20:37.29 | CIA-22 | PitBull - initial conversion to Rock. It's about 10% Rock, 90% Ace2, so both frameworks are needed. |
| 20:37.29 | CIA-22 | - also convert DogTag-1.0 to LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 20:37.29 | CIA-22 | - Note: embeds don't work and externals aren't updated. |
| 20:38.30 | ckknight | technically, |Stan|, you could use it now, but it doesn't act any different |
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| 20:38.46 | neroli | ello |
| 20:39.03 | |Stan| | ckknight: well when it's still 90% ace then thats normal :P |
| 20:40.25 | ckknight | it even still has a FuBar plugin :-P |
| 20:41.06 | |Stan| | uhh *shivers* |
| 20:41.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48642 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix slash command. |
| 20:42.06 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:42.10 | yssaril | will you remove the fubar plugin from pitbull? |
| 20:42.11 | ckknight | ... |
| 20:42.15 | ckknight | that's the idea. |
| 20:42.29 | |Stan| | there's no need for it anymore |
| 20:42.35 | ckknight | preliminarily, at least |
| 20:42.36 | deltron | why removeit? |
| 20:42.49 | |Stan| | cause it will be in rock config? |
| 20:42.59 | yssaril | can you just add one that will open the config when you click it? |
| 20:43.18 | neroli | anyone know is there is addon that can move bg/worldpvp info and action errors ( e.g. "you cannot attack that target")? |
| 20:43.29 | neroli | heres screen http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9495/wowscrnshot091107222215sp0.jpg |
| 20:43.55 | |Stan| | ErrorMonster |
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| 20:45.02 | Diao | errormonster just hides it |
| 20:45.15 | Diao | vizor will move them |
| 20:45.23 | Diao | but you need to know the frame names |
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| 20:46.19 | ergh99 | ThraeBot: api GetPlayerBuffName |
| 20:46.19 | ThraeBot | ergh99: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerBuffName |
| 20:46.31 | ergh99 | ThraeBot: api GetPlayerBuff |
| 20:46.32 | ThraeBot | ergh99: buffIndex, untilCancelled = GetPlayerBuff(buffId, buffFilter); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerBuff |
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| 20:52.43 | fixt | can you have ifstatements etc in a simple macro ? |
| 20:52.50 | fixt | as in if Someframe.isvisible |
| 20:52.56 | fixt | :isvisible |
| 20:53.04 | hyperChipmunk | /script |
| 20:53.23 | hyperChipmunk | but you wouldn't be able to combine it with slash-commands |
| 20:53.33 | hyperChipmunk | it'd have to be entirely a lua script |
| 20:54.09 | fixt | oh it is |
| 20:54.13 | fixt | i just want to create a macrobutton |
| 20:54.17 | fixt | to toggle between chatframes |
| 20:54.31 | fixt | 1 frame for world/trade crapchat |
| 20:54.36 | fixt | and 1 for raid/guild/whispers |
| 20:54.40 | hyperChipmunk | /script <lua string> |
| 20:56.41 | neroli | Diao, any info where i can find those frame names? |
| 20:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | oh, that's good; i hate staticpopup |
| 20:57.35 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
| 20:57.59 | Fisker- | oh hi hyperChipmunk |
| 20:58.58 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r48643 10!AlarLib/ (9 files in 3 dirs): !AlarLib Initial import |
| 20:59.17 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 20:59.22 | Tornhoof | a lib for huge fireballs crashing on your head? |
| 20:59.52 | NightHawkAtWork | o_0 |
| 20:59.53 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 20:59.56 | Fisker- | no me NightHawkAtWork |
| 21:00.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48644 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - change core to use LibRockEvent-1.0, LibRockTimer-1.0, and LibRockHook-1.0 instead of the Ace2 versions. |
| 21:00.19 | fixt | hyperChipmunk how do I do an else if in a script ? Or in lua at all |
| 21:00.32 | NightHawkAtWork | fixt: google is your friend |
| 21:00.39 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 21:00.48 | hyperChipmunk | become Enlightened |
| 21:01.17 | Industrial | if blah then foo elseif bar then baz else yomomma end |
| 21:01.27 | Industrial | <3 lua |
| 21:02.09 | ergh99 | ThraeBot: api GetPlayerBuffName |
| 21:02.13 | ThraeBot | ergh99: name, rank = GetPlayerBuffName(id, or "name"[,"rank"]) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerBuffName |
| 21:02.37 | ergh99 | hoo ah! it's shake'n'bake and i helped! |
| 21:04.32 | Diao | neroli: the errors frame is called UIErrorsFrame i think |
| 21:04.37 | Diao | not sure about the pvp one |
| 21:05.37 | ckknight | did any functions get added in WoW 2.2? |
| 21:05.50 | ckknight | I want to do a check to see if we're in >= 2.2 |
| 21:06.00 | Diao | voicechat? |
| 21:06.35 | Diao | or is that 2.3 |
| 21:06.39 | Diao | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1 |
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| 21:07.37 | [Ammo] | anyone up for a good laugh check out http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/!AlarLib/Libs/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua |
| 21:07.41 | |Stan| | ckknight: some tweaks were made to actionbuttons, you can check the branch version of bartender |
| 21:07.47 | [Ammo] | it's like zomg Ace2 addons are too hard to make, lets make a lib to make ace2 addons |
| 21:07.56 | [Ammo] | idiot morons prevail! |
| 21:08.02 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 21:08.37 | [Ammo] | sometimes I wish hammers to the face would work over TCP/IP |
| 21:08.55 | ckknight | that's kinda funky |
| 21:08.56 | [Ammo] | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/!AlarLib/Libs/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua |
| 21:09.01 | Funkeh` | no its not |
| 21:09.02 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 21:09.03 | [Ammo] | damn mouse |
| 21:09.07 | Funkeh` | stop abusing that reserved word |
| 21:09.08 | Funkeh` | bitch |
| 21:09.17 | NightHawkAtWork | haha |
| 21:09.30 | nevcairiel | wtf is that lib? |
| 21:09.49 | Pkekyo | is ignite 5/5 worth stacking up? |
| 21:11.13 | Punkie` | svn isnt working for me :< |
| 21:11.14 | ckknight | Funkeh`: your mom's funky |
| 21:11.20 | Punkie` | ah here we go |
| 21:11.23 | ckknight | Funkeh`: which means you're your own mother |
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| 21:11.33 | ckknight | which means I've been insulting _you_ all along |
| 21:11.36 | ckknight | sorry, guy |
| 21:11.40 | ckknight | you're not really humungous |
| 21:11.45 | Funkeh` | ckknight: If I'm my own mother and I had your mother am I your dad? |
| 21:11.53 | ckknight | ...no |
| 21:11.59 | ckknight | you'd merely be my grandmother |
| 21:12.01 | ckknight | in that case. |
| 21:12.02 | fixt | yeye another question, how do i add a texture to fubar ? |
| 21:12.16 | Punkie` | lol at changelog |
| 21:12.19 | Funkeh` | ckknight: but I _am_ your dad |
| 21:12.24 | Punkie` | Version 2.2: Converated to ACE2 |
| 21:12.25 | ckknight | no you're not |
| 21:12.26 | neroli | Diao, thanks a lot :P |
| 21:12.31 | Punkie` | converted^^ |
| 21:12.33 | Punkie` | lolol |
| 21:12.34 | Funkeh` | ckknight: How do you know? |
| 21:12.42 | ckknight | Punkie`: *shudder* |
| 21:12.53 | ckknight | cause you're far too big of a douche |
| 21:13.16 | Funkeh` | ckknight: calling your own dad a douche? I'm hurt |
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| 21:13.54 | Funkeh` | Kody-: fix curse plix |
| 21:14.26 | Tinyboom | pre-order of orange box is up;) and beta of team fortress 2 starts on my birthday^^ 17th september:D:D:D (ignore if already said) :p |
| 21:14.40 | evl | Tinyboom: IGNORED |
| 21:14.44 | Tinyboom | hehe |
| 21:15.30 | Diao | oh |
| 21:15.31 | Diao | neroli found it |
| 21:15.35 | Diao | WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame |
| 21:15.57 | neroli | that works for bg aswell? |
| 21:16.20 | neroli | well ill try it |
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| 21:17.13 | Diao | yea |
| 21:17.15 | Diao | works for bg and world |
| 21:18.04 | Silowyi | does anyone happen to have a converter that will translate a lua saved variables file to either php or ruby data structures? |
| 21:18.10 | Silowyi | preferably ruby |
| 21:18.49 | NightHawkAtWork | i've seen a lua->php converter, but it's really trivial to write your own |
| 21:19.13 | Silowyi | good point |
| 21:19.52 | Silowyi | especially since lua and Ruby are fairly similar |
| 21:20.05 | Silowyi | at least in data structure syntax |
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| 21:20.21 | NightHawkAtWork | well, it wouldn't really matter |
| 21:20.37 | NightHawkAtWork | as it'd probably just be some kind of loop/regex/recusion/whatever |
| 21:23.42 | Pkekyo | is ignite 5/5 worth stacking up? |
| 21:24.32 | neroli | Diao, thanks again, thats what i was looking for |
| 21:24.40 | Diao | np |
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| 21:28.52 | ckknight | cya all in a little while |
| 21:29.24 | Funkeh` | I miss my son |
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| 21:39.18 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r48645 10!AlarLib/ (!AlarLib.toc Libs/ core.lua): !AlarLib Still getting used to svn. Polished TOC description |
| 21:41.28 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: because you keep buggin me about my UI, this is a quality shot of my UI with added legoporn: http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/legoporn.jpg |
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| 21:42.08 | Thrae | http://www.bash.org/?694821 <-- there is no escape |
| 21:42.14 | Funkeh` | cum |
| 21:42.18 | Punkie` | lol |
| 21:42.21 | Funkeh` | nice Ui [Ammo] |
| 21:42.22 | Punkie` | your ui still sux! |
| 21:42.40 | [Ammo] | I can't get used to anything else |
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| 21:42.49 | [Ammo] | my eyes just go where stuff is supposed to be |
| 21:42.53 | Punkie` | do you need mana bars on perfect raid to be like 5pix? |
| 21:43.13 | [Ammo] | I like em that way |
| 21:43.26 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: http://is.funkydude.co.uk/images/WoW_2007-09-03.jpg |
| 21:43.46 | [Ammo] | the legoporn is in officer chat ofcourse |
| 21:43.57 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: thats ok but still sux |
| 21:44.05 | Funkeh` | ofc it sux |
| 21:44.09 | Funkeh` | I like it when it sux |
| 21:44.12 | Punkie` | get out |
| 21:44.31 | Punkie` | OMG |
| 21:44.33 | Funkeh` | Lets see yours then suck boi |
| 21:44.35 | Punkie` | ammo has a spit macro |
| 21:44.37 | Punkie` | so owned |
| 21:44.50 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/punkieui.jpg |
| 21:45.08 | [Ammo] | spit macro? |
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| 21:45.19 | Punkie` | shift + 2 |
| 21:45.19 | Funkeh` | If thats skinner you fail already |
| 21:45.21 | Punkie` | says spit on it |
| 21:45.23 | Funkeh` | and wtf its too clean |
| 21:45.26 | Punkie` | and skinner |
| 21:45.27 | Punkie` | LOLOL |
| 21:45.28 | Punkie` | no |
| 21:45.41 | Funkeh` | and you gto fubar over other stuff |
| 21:45.43 | [Ammo] | no skinner in that ui |
| 21:45.46 | Funkeh` | like closetgnome writing |
| 21:45.51 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 21:45.56 | Punkie` | but it doesnt normally say that |
| 21:46.03 | [Ammo] | ? |
| 21:46.03 | Punkie` | ill take a ss again in a sec |
| 21:46.09 | Punkie` | im talking about mine now ammo :P |
| 21:46.16 | Punkie` | but you still have a spit macro |
| 21:46.22 | [Ammo] | oh yeah |
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| 21:46.26 | [Ammo] | that's a spitfire targetting macro |
| 21:46.32 | Punkie` | ah :D |
| 21:46.32 | [Ammo] | for the totem |
| 21:48.15 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 21:48.17 | Funkeh` | hahah |
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| 21:50.50 | [Ammo] | anyway, time for bed |
| 21:53.51 | Punkie` | bye! |
| 21:54.16 | Punkie` | Funkeh` |
| 21:54.27 | Funkeh` | ye |
| 21:54.28 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/punkieui2.jpg |
| 21:54.29 | Punkie` | just now |
| 21:55.14 | Boubouille | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9261.jpg |
| 21:55.16 | Boubouille | just now. |
| 21:55.29 | Punkie` | yawn |
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| 21:55.53 | Funkeh` | Punkie`: nice |
| 21:56.16 | Punkie` | :D |
| 21:56.34 | Punkie` | Blizzard CT! |
| 21:56.41 | Punkie` | epic |
| 21:56.55 | Funkeh` | Yeah used to use it myself |
| 21:57.05 | Funkeh` | Then jsut turned it off and decided to live without CT |
| 21:57.20 | Tinyboom | Punkie`: what buffmod? |
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| 21:58.39 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:59.25 | Chompers | hey |
| 21:59.31 | Tinyboom | heya:) |
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| 21:59.40 | Dotted | bye |
| 21:59.42 | Punkie` | Tinyboom: EBBs |
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| 22:00.10 | Tinyboom | Punkie`:ty |
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| 22:01.19 | Electrofreak | would anyone have any idea why my DrDamage is freaking out when I'm dual wielding on my Shammy |
| 22:01.34 | Electrofreak | its complaining about a null value |
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| 22:08.32 | fixt | Possible to have debuffs on Pitbull show a timer ? |
| 22:09.18 | Diao | pitbull global settings |
| 22:09.20 | Diao | aura/alt-aura |
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| 22:11.27 | fixt | that is awesome |
| 22:11.32 | fixt | no need quartz buffbars anymore then |
| 22:14.42 | Diao | !ar 620 |
| 22:14.43 | ThraeBot | Diao: Arena rating from 620 points is, 2v2: 1893, 3v3: 1811, 5v5: 1698 |
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| 22:15.48 | Electrofreak | oh sweet, just found a newer build of DrDmg with a fix for my aforementioned problem. disregard! |
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| 22:17.44 | Paene | Is there an Ace2 version of the old CT_RaidTracker? Or any other up-to-date mod that does the same thing? |
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| 22:26.17 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r48646 10AlarTTFrame/: Created folder remotely |
| 22:28.35 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r48647 10AlarTTFrame/ (6 files in 2 dirs): AlarTTFrame Initial import |
| 22:29.19 | Ominous_ | nice initial import comment |
| 22:31.09 | Chompers | Fisker- http://img.waffleimages.com/b61fa634df2a8692cddda86a386ff207dd3d4681/lulwut.png |
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| 22:35.59 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r48648 10TimeToDie/Core.lua: |
| 22:35.59 | CIA-22 | TimeToDie: - Target/Focus option changed to focus toggle. |
| 22:35.59 | CIA-22 | - New calculation method, uses a weighted value to reducing the amount the number jumps around. |
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| 22:46.14 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r48649 10AlarTTFrame/Libs/: AlarTTFrame Fixed externals |
| 22:47.55 | CIA-22 | 03evilelvis * r48650 10eeShards/ (. core.lua eeShards.toc embeds.xml): eeShards: moved optional lib locations into embeds.xml; added french localization for soulstones |
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| 22:58.12 | ckknight | lol, Chompers |
| 22:58.24 | FrostByghte | the prat module fading doesn't seem to work for me on one of seperate windows but works on original tabbed windows, is there anyway to get fading to work on the seperate winow? |
| 23:03.36 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 23:06.49 | ckknight | looks like it's time to buy a new gamecard |
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| 23:09.10 | NightHawkAtWork | wow, guess you'll have to release a new mod, eh? |
| 23:09.32 | Recluse | i hate blizzard downloader. wish i could tell WoW to open the torrent file in utorrent by default so i wouldnt have to do it manually |
| 23:09.56 | ckknight | NightHawkAtWork: lol |
| 23:11.00 | Xinhuan | what's wrong with the blizzard downloader? :) |
| 23:11.08 | Xinhuan | it downloaded all 76 mb in like 8 minutes |
| 23:12.32 | Recluse | it trickles for me. i have the throttle turned off in options, but it peaks at 0.1kbps. i put the same torrent in utorrent and i get 200-300kbps |
| 23:12.56 | Xinhuan | maybe its because you have some firewall blocking the ports that the blizzard downloader uses |
| 23:13.02 | Xinhuan | for its BT |
| 23:13.20 | Recluse | i only had to download like 25mb this time too, the other 50 i got from something a few weeks back |
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| 23:13.53 | Xinhuan | if that's the case, the only place you can download from is the HTTP direct download which is probably the trickle you see |
| 23:16.21 | Recluse | well i know i've got firewall holes for it and all - i dunno why it's craptastic. i still get my downloads fast, so i know it's something about the downloader that my system/connection doesn't like |
| 23:17.47 | NightHawkAtWork | well it could be his ISP doing QoS voodoo on the ports that blizzard downloader uses but not the ones he's using in µtorrent |
| 23:18.34 | NightHawkAtWork | also, if you have a router, it could be a port forwarding/NAT issue |
| 23:19.29 | Recluse | if that was the problem, that could be solved if blizzard downloader had configurable ports XD |
| 23:20.02 | Xinhuan | the day blizz downloaders have configurable ports, the cows will fly :) |
| 23:20.22 | NightHawkAtWork | Indeed. I'm not attempting to extoll the blizzard downloader, merely postulating possible causes :P |
| 23:20.23 | Recluse | mmm, cow level |
| 23:20.39 | Xinhuan | well hey no game of blizzard has flying cows yet |
| 23:21.03 | Xinhuan | flying sheep yes (warcraft 3 mage polymorph spell), but not cows |
| 23:21.26 | yssaril | druid taurens in flightform + flying cow imo |
| 23:21.44 | Recluse | rofl |
| 23:21.45 | yssaril | *+ should be = |
| 23:23.09 | dreamss | u can strip the torrent |
| 23:23.14 | dreamss | and use ur own torrent client |
| 23:23.16 | dreamss | btw |
| 23:23.37 | Arrowmaster | no need with background downloader, it puts the torrent in the cache dir |
| 23:23.39 | Recluse | oh, i do, i load it in utorrent lol |
| 23:23.55 | dreamss | <fn'Xinhuan> the day blizz downloaders have configurable ports, the cows will fly :) |
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| 23:25.19 | FrostByghte | anyone know if cowtip can show buffs/debuffs? not text :) |
| 23:25.34 | *** join/#wowace Ashy (n=me@ip70-185-248-180.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 23:25.47 | Ashy | Hey, could someone help me with a cellular bug? :* |
| 23:25.59 | FrostByghte | Rock? sheeze |
| 23:26.08 | FrostByghte | Ashy, what's wrong? I use cellular |
| 23:26.35 | Ashy | Basically, the window isn't coming up at all when someone sends me a tell. |
| 23:26.48 | Ashy | I have the bug from the bugsack, but I don't want to flood the channel. :D |
| 23:27.13 | FrostByghte | ah....does it point to cellular or maybe one of the libs it calls? |
| 23:27.34 | Chompers | pastey it |
| 23:27.36 | Ashy | Cellular\core.lua:635: SharedMedia-1.0: Bad argument #3 to `Fetch' (string expected, got nil)Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:133: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:86>(tail call): |
| 23:27.39 | Chompers | or use WIM |
| 23:27.39 | Ashy | omw to the pasty |
| 23:27.55 | FrostByghte | did you recently update? |
| 23:28.02 | Sinaloit | at a guess you have it playing some sound you dont have anymore or something |
| 23:28.09 | Ashy | http://ace.pastey.net/73733 |
| 23:28.28 | Ashy | And I update like an obsessed monkey, so there's no telling. |
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| 23:29.01 | FrostByghte | well it's beyond me, I'm just a normal user :) no lua coding powers |
| 23:29.24 | FrostByghte | if nothing else, try to disable things and keep testing until it functions...spamsentry maybe? |
| 23:29.32 | Sinaloit | sorry looks like background not sound |
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| 23:29.43 | FrostByghte | I had to remove spamsentry because it wouldn't work right with cellular |
| 23:29.53 | Ashy | Ok, I'll go disable that and see what we get. |
| 23:30.09 | FrostByghte | is cellular still in active development? |
| 23:30.12 | Ashy | Also, is there anything to fix the godawful "US_locale provided more than once" messages? |
| 23:31.07 | FrostByghte | I have no idea, maybe someone else here would be kind enough to assist |
| 23:31.17 | Sinaloit | db.bg is nil and thats why you're getting the error, i've never used cellular before though so not sure how you'd go about changing the background, you know how to do that? |
| 23:31.19 | FrostByghte | so far I'm 0/3 for today, but ah well :) |
| 23:32.27 | CIA-22 | 03avai * r48651 10PVPtimer/PVPtimer.toc: |
| 23:32.27 | CIA-22 | PVPtimer: |
| 23:32.27 | CIA-22 | - added Chinese Traditional language file. |
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| 23:33.13 | Sinaloit | Ashy: looks like Appearance->Background Texture in the dropdown menu? |
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| 23:38.52 | Sinaloit | hrm background downloader started up again, does that mean they are patching next week? |
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| 23:40.48 | Ra1d3n | doesnt mean anything really |
| 23:44.13 | FrostByghte | normally it means love is just down the line |
| 23:46.34 | Ashy | I have no idea how to change the background |
| 23:46.41 | Ashy | Is it the background that cellular is trying to use that needs changed? |
| 23:47.37 | Ashy | oh! *sees her name up there* |
| 23:47.40 | Ashy | i'll go try that. |
| 23:48.41 | Neebler | oh man. I'm hooked on peggle now thanks to The Orange Box pre-purchase |
| 23:49.03 | CIA-22 | 03siz * r48652 10MainAssist/ (. MainAssist.lua MainAssist.toc embeds.xml): |
| 23:49.03 | CIA-22 | MainAssist: |
| 23:49.03 | CIA-22 | -Use embeds.xml |
| 23:49.03 | CIA-22 | -Use SharedMediaLib instead of SurfaceLib |
| 23:51.26 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r48653 10Elephant/ (4 files): Elephant: Adding filters. YAY! No more AceComm* logging! |
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| 23:56.15 | Neebler | jesus had a soulstone |
| 23:56.18 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r48654 10Elephant/ (6 files): Elephant: Updating filter usage locales. |
