| 00:00.21 | art3mis | Pkekyo: although related to armour, weapons, general's names ie. Panzer |
| 00:00.33 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 00:00.38 | Pkekyo | so Baesj would not be such a name? |
| 00:01.00 | art3mis | not unelss he meant All your Baesj are belong to me" |
| 00:01.03 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:01.18 | Pkekyo | now THAT would be kinky |
| 00:01.29 | Pkekyo | as baesj could be translated into 'shit' |
| 00:02.14 | art3mis | so you curl up in the fecal position at night to sleep? |
| 00:02.31 | Pkekyo | who, me? |
| 00:02.53 | Pkekyo | nah, I just...don't sleep |
| 00:02.55 | art3mis | you or whoever baesj is ;P |
| 00:03.01 | Pkekyo | insomnia = win |
| 00:03.06 | art3mis | pkek you do graphics and stuff right? |
| 00:03.09 | Gngsk | fecal position ftw |
| 00:03.28 | Pkekyo | art3mis: err...depends on what you mean... :P |
| 00:03.51 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hro.jpg <--- what would you do for the cyC buttons on this, keeping in mind i wanna skin em and not just use stardard coloured circles etc |
| 00:04.20 | art3mis | Gngsk: heh it started from a guy a while back saying he was gonna go to bed and shit |
| 00:04.20 | Pkekyo | you keeping the german eagle design? |
| 00:04.23 | art3mis | yeah |
| 00:04.27 | art3mis | roman eagle ;P |
| 00:04.36 | Pkekyo | tbh, I'd do the iron cross |
| 00:05.02 | art3mis | hrm... |
| 00:05.12 | Pkekyo | basicly, you've got too many background panels dude |
| 00:05.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48494 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: |
| 00:05.21 | CIA-22 | LibRock-1.0 - add support so that AceOO-2.0 mixins can be mixed into Rock addons. |
| 00:05.21 | CIA-22 | e.g. local MyAddon = Rock:NewAddon("MyAddon", "AceConsole-2.0"); MyAddon:Print("Stuffs") all works good now. |
| 00:05.30 | art3mis | placeholders at present |
| 00:05.51 | art3mis | i want something there but i couldnt "see" it right with then freefloating |
| 00:06.23 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r48495 10Prat/Prat_Modules/frames/popup.xml: Prat: Place the pop-up message in a more friendly location |
| 00:06.30 | Pkekyo | get a decent border on the eagle, have it at 80% opacity....I'd either use black square or sprocket skins for the actionbuttons...methinks the sprocket would be overkill though, so I'd have to go with black squares (no gloss) |
| 00:07.09 | art3mis | heh the eagle sucked, it had a red background originally |
| 00:07.18 | art3mis | had to erase all that ;P |
| 00:07.42 | art3mis | for transperancy and yeah im gonna make it less solid just found out that ee added texture alaph yesterday |
| 00:08.07 | Pkekyo | wha? texture alpha? I'm getting eeP again, deffo! |
| 00:08.20 | art3mis | yup yup eepanels2 |
| 00:08.45 | Pkekyo | which reminds me, I've gotta check out my current art in photoshop |
| 00:10.35 | Pkekyo | damnit, can't figure out how the art frames of my addon is set up |
| 00:11.36 | Pkekyo | the art isn't a tga with transparent background |
| 00:11.41 | Pkekyo | it's solid fucking black |
| 00:12.16 | Pkekyo | anyone got any ideas? |
| 00:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | "...I've got some notes." |
| 00:12.54 | art3mis | thrs two layers per se |
| 00:12.59 | art3mis | thers background colour |
| 00:13.02 | art3mis | and texture |
| 00:13.15 | art3mis | set the alpha to 0 on the background colour |
| 00:13.23 | art3mis | for see thru ;P |
| 00:13.23 | Pkekyo | not in tga, there's not |
| 00:13.48 | art3mis | in the tga you'll need to add an alpha chanel and cut out/erase all the parts you want see through |
| 00:13.52 | Pkekyo | I love the art itself, but I want different colours |
| 00:13.58 | art3mis | if you're going for soemthing like the birdf |
| 00:14.10 | Pkekyo | art3mis: not possible, due to the nature of the art |
| 00:14.25 | Pkekyo | http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg <--- there's the art |
| 00:14.45 | Pkekyo | there's 5 tga files, all black, with slightly lower alpha where the art-forms are |
| 00:15.22 | art3mis | get gimp |
| 00:15.34 | art3mis | ;) |
| 00:15.50 | Pkekyo | I prefer Photoshop |
| 00:15.56 | art3mis | colour replace is the simplest |
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| 00:16.13 | Pkekyo | art3mis: let me send you one of the TGAs |
| 00:16.18 | art3mis | that would be kind of ugly to edit though |
| 00:16.50 | ergh99 | anyone here that could help me with an SVN problem? i'm getting 3 characters of garbage at the beginning of some files when checking out using Subclipse 1.2.4 |
| 00:17.04 | Pkekyo | art3mis: just sent you a transfer query |
| 00:17.15 | art3mis | my dcc is broken |
| 00:17.25 | Pkekyo | goddamnit |
| 00:17.30 | Pkekyo | any place I can upload the file? |
| 00:20.14 | Pkekyo | meh, rapidshare doesn't work with Opera :< |
| 00:20.24 | Pkekyo | art3mis: email sent |
| 00:20.43 | the-golem | targa has seperate alpha channel? |
| 00:21.00 | the-golem | i thought it was embedded like png |
| 00:21.17 | Pkekyo | the-golem: it is |
| 00:21.27 | Pkekyo | art3mis: about your UI...you have too many colour ranges |
| 00:21.33 | the-golem | oh :_( |
| 00:21.38 | Pkekyo | find 2-3 base colours and stick with them |
| 00:21.39 | the-golem | :-( rather |
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| 00:22.46 | art3mis | the-golem: it "flattens" |
| 00:22.54 | Pkekyo | aye :< |
| 00:23.00 | Pkekyo | which sucks donkeyballs |
| 00:23.04 | Pkekyo | ought to be like PSDs |
| 00:23.07 | art3mis | Pkekyo: aside fromt he layout and graphic i havent mucked with the colours at all |
| 00:23.36 | Pkekyo | art3mis: well, you should ;> |
| 00:24.33 | Pkekyo | art3mis: did you get the email? |
| 00:27.20 | todd | dns server down, somebody have an ip for google? por favor :o |
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| 00:27.44 | JoshBorke | 208.69.32.208 |
| 00:27.45 | JoshBorke | erm |
| 00:27.48 | JoshBorke | 208.69.32.230 |
| 00:28.40 | JoshBorke | try 208.67.222.222 as your dns server |
| 00:29.10 | todd | hmm |
| 00:29.16 | JoshBorke | it's opendns |
| 00:29.28 | todd | seems like I can't make any new connections at all |
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| 00:29.48 | todd | I was running utorrent to download wow with a ton of connections, could it have messed up my router or modem? |
| 00:30.10 | todd | as in, a restart of them would fix it |
| 00:30.59 | Pkekyo | err, shouldn't have interfered with either your router nor modem |
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| 00:32.47 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48496 10Enhancer/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:32.47 | CIA-22 | Enhancer: |
| 00:32.48 | CIA-22 | - Simplified Localization |
| 00:32.48 | CIA-22 | - Worked more on range for totems |
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| 00:34.19 | Pkekyo | art3mis: ping? |
| 00:36.53 | ergh99 | anyone here that could help me with an SVN problem? i'm getting 3 characters of garbage at the beginning of some files when checking out using Subclipse 1.2.4 |
| 00:37.06 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 00:38.08 | todd | restarting them fixed it :o |
| 00:38.24 | art3mis | Pkekyo: what colour you want it? |
| 00:39.26 | Pkekyo | gradient orange--> yellow |
| 00:39.33 | Pkekyo | art3mis: you managed to fix it? |
| 00:39.44 | art3mis | sorta |
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| 00:40.11 | Pkekyo | how? |
| 00:42.53 | art3mis | did a select of the object, pasted into a new file with the alpha already added and bg colour removed, pasted in graphic and did a gradient full fill |
| 00:42.57 | art3mis | sent it back |
| 00:43.04 | art3mis | see if thats what you were going for |
| 00:46.32 | Pkekyo | was thinking more like this: gradient starts dark orange in the corner, then grows out to both sides (down and right) through the orange scale into a clear yellow |
| 00:46.49 | Pkekyo | you using gimp or ps? |
| 00:46.53 | art3mis | but the effect works right? |
| 00:46.55 | art3mis | gimp |
| 00:46.56 | NightHawkTheSane | "Seriously, I'm an archeologist. You can look me up on the internet... " |
| 00:47.30 | mark4__ | a night hawk is a metak detectorist that goes into archeolights digs and detects them at night when nobody is arround |
| 00:47.36 | mark4__ | metal |
| 00:47.56 | mark4__ | i.e. he is a ninja |
| 00:48.33 | Pkekyo | art3mis: except from the white background, yes it does |
| 00:48.49 | art3mis | its a transparent |
| 00:48.58 | art3mis | if you replace it in yer ui youll notice that its clear |
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| 00:49.19 | Pkekyo | really? |
| 00:49.32 | art3mis | yup |
| 00:49.43 | Pkekyo | how did you do it though? I've got four other TGAs that need the same treatment |
| 00:49.50 | art3mis | sent another with an attempt at corner orange ends yellow |
| 00:50.38 | art3mis | do an object select which will grab the trace or the art, create a new 512x256, add the alpha channel and mass cut the fg/bg from it so it's all alpha |
| 00:50.48 | art3mis | cut and paste the marked graphics from original |
| 00:51.08 | Pkekyo | object select? :P |
| 00:51.12 | art3mis | so a "whole selction gradient fillfrom corner to just left of bottom center |
| 00:51.24 | art3mis | "seperate selections |
| 00:51.32 | art3mis | lets you take just bg just fg etc |
| 00:51.41 | Pkekyo | about the last tga...you got the idea right...not the colours though :) |
| 00:51.53 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:51.57 | art3mis | gimp can do what you want ;P |
| 00:51.58 | Pkekyo | art3mis: any idea what that function would be in photoshop? |
| 00:52.06 | art3mis | not a clue ive never used photoshop |
| 00:52.29 | art3mis | the colours are prolly wrong cuz its REALLY hard to see |
| 00:52.44 | art3mis | yellow on checked grey == bad for your eyes |
| 00:52.47 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:53.25 | mark4__ | might be good for them. make them pump iron and become stronger :) |
| 00:53.40 | art3mis | heh\ |
| 00:54.00 | mark4__ | i tried to use the gimp once... once! |
| 00:54.06 | mark4__ | cant draw a straight line in it |
| 00:54.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i was a gimp once |
| 00:54.27 | Pkekyo | I tried to use gimp once as well... |
| 00:54.27 | Pkekyo | it seemed like photoshop...with an ms paint interface! :< |
| 00:54.36 | art3mis | yup |
| 00:54.44 | art3mis | once you get the hang of the icons your its really nice |
| 00:54.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, and about 600usd cheaper |
| 00:54.55 | art3mis | i only started using it a little bit ago for the hello kitty ui |
| 00:55.01 | art3mis | so less than 3 days |
| 00:55.06 | mark4__ | its almost as powerful as PS in the right hands but costs alot less |
| 00:55.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i just pirate software,but meh |
| 00:55.26 | art3mis | the only thing its really missing is large market filter and addon support |
| 00:55.37 | art3mis | other than that its great |
| 00:56.01 | mark4__ | well im a coder not an artist so i cant complain either way hehe |
| 00:56.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 01:03.38 | Pkekyo | art3mis: thanks alot, I figured it out now :) |
| 01:05.39 | Morghus | Used the gimp alot. It's brilliant \o/ |
| 01:05.43 | Morghus | Best part is that it's free ;D |
| 01:06.10 | Pkekyo | so is photoshop :) |
| 01:06.25 | NightHawkTheSane | "I've been shot... AH!! no no no" "You HAVE been shot." "... Si." |
| 01:07.44 | Pkekyo | wtf? |
| 01:09.33 | NightHawkTheSane | sg1 |
| 01:09.37 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 01:09.43 | Pkekyo | episode/characters? |
| 01:09.55 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cyCircled-cross.jpg |
| 01:10.27 | Bruners | nice |
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| 01:11.37 | Pkekyo | looks good art3mis |
| 01:12.04 | Pkekyo | though on the prospecting and JC buttons, the lower part of the cross is not connected to the icon..? |
| 01:12.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: 712, evolution part 2, the honduran guide |
| 01:13.04 | art3mis | yeah thats scaled up to about 175 |
| 01:13.13 | art3mis | at smaller sizes it's not notuiceable |
| 01:13.16 | art3mis | noticable |
| 01:16.02 | Pkekyo | art3mis: but why not just do it properly though? |
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| 01:16.47 | CIA-22 | 03quagmire * r48497 10nQuestLog/ (modules/Comments.lua modules/DetailsFrame.lua nQuestLog.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:16.47 | CIA-22 | nQuestLog:nQuestLog.toc |
| 01:16.47 | CIA-22 | - Updated TOC to 2.1 |
| 01:16.47 | CIA-22 | - Added forum/website links |
| 01:16.47 | CIA-22 | nQuestLog:DetailsFrame.lua |
| 01:16.48 | CIA-22 | - Uncommented and fixed escape detector. The Escape key can now be used to close this frame. |
| 01:16.50 | CIA-22 | - Added MobMap integration. Quest objectives can now be clicked and mapped via Cartographer Waypoints and/or TomTom. |
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| 01:27.47 | Pkekyo | art3mis: ping? |
| 01:27.50 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 01:27.52 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 512 messages. Is idling for 14m 36s, last said: 'noticable'. |
| 01:28.51 | Pkekyo | http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9459/xartjg2.png <--- pretty much how it turned out |
| 01:34.32 | art3mis | hi |
| 01:34.46 | art3mis | nice |
| 01:35.52 | Pkekyo | now I just gotta do it 4 more times and make it look exactly as that one :p |
| 01:37.29 | Pkekyo | this is gonna suck donkeyballs |
| 01:41.39 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo: that's nice |
| 01:41.50 | Pkekyo | youthink? |
| 01:42.00 | Pkekyo | http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg <--- original art |
| 01:42.30 | JoshBorke | it's very bright, but i think you did a good job with it |
| 01:44.13 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cyCircled-cross.jpg <-- new skin fixed the icon size |
| 01:44.16 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hre.jpg <-- new theme |
| 01:44.32 | Pkekyo | looks great |
| 01:44.38 | Pkekyo | although a tad nazi... |
| 01:44.42 | art3mis | roman dammit |
| 01:44.59 | Pkekyo | ;> |
| 01:45.15 | Pkekyo | it's a good concept, but the art is shitty |
| 01:45.29 | Pkekyo | too blurry and pixlish |
| 01:46.03 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 01:46.09 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 01:46.33 | hyperChipmunk | that's hilarious |
| 01:46.39 | Pkekyo | what is? |
| 01:46.40 | ZealotOnAStick | heh, is that with the EA eagle? |
| 01:46.49 | hyperChipmunk | the nazi graphics |
| 01:47.22 | hyperChipmunk | i assume from 'hre' he intended holy roman empire |
| 01:47.58 | hyperChipmunk | but still, anyone today would look at that and see WWI/II germany |
| 01:48.44 | hyperChipmunk | i like how you integrated the fubars with it |
| 01:48.46 | hyperChipmunk | that's neat |
| 01:48.46 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: yup it is ;P |
| 01:49.03 | ergh99 | anyone here that could help me with an SVN problem? i'm getting 3 characters of garbage at the beginning of some files when checking out using Subclipse 1.2.4 |
| 01:49.04 | art3mis | and correct hyper |
| 01:49.40 | art3mis | the cyCircled cross skins red when hovered too |
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| 01:49.55 | Antiarc | ergh99: That's probably the UTF-8 BOM |
| 01:50.00 | Antiarc | Just read the file as UTF-8 |
| 01:50.05 | orionshock | ergh99: is that will all files? if so then you might have something up with ur svn program |
| 01:50.22 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r48498 10CallToArms/CallToArms.lua: CallToArms: Added a modified version of autoLFG by Klimax for SYL-08 |
| 01:51.32 | NightHawkTheSane | it's quite likely a BOM on utf8 files that your client just isn't reading properly |
| 01:52.41 | art3mis | does minichat work with other chat mods? |
| 01:53.06 | art3mis | like can i run a normal chatmod that allows urls and c&p n stuff and still have minichat function right? |
| 01:53.43 | RaydenUni | wow that is cluttered art3mis |
| 01:54.02 | kadrahil | Wow |
| 01:54.16 | kadrahil | The HPS and DPS realtime graphs are freaking awesome |
| 01:54.46 | art3mis | cluttered? |
| 01:54.55 | Xinhuan | !c us Rhaegyn Bleeding Hollow |
| 01:54.56 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Hollow is not the character you are looking for! |
| 01:55.01 | Xinhuan | !c us Bleeding Hollow Rhaegyn |
| 01:55.02 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Rhaegyn, Level 70 Human Warrior (33/28/0). 11394 HP; 9990 Armour; 1706 AP; 261.2 Melee DPS; 33.25% melee crit; 85 melee hit; 4.55% dodge; 5% block; 342 resilience;[[ TBR: 1845 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27hfu7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32r626 ][ Updated: Sun Sep 9 22:07:12 2007 ]] |
| 01:55.08 | art3mis | it only looks coloured because there arent borders and backgrounds ;P |
| 01:55.22 | RaydenUni | kadrahil in recount? |
| 01:56.37 | Awaa | !c eu Al'Akir Harrg |
| 01:56.40 | ThraeBot | Awaa: Harrg, Level 70 Orc Rogue (17/44/0). 8264 HP; 1473 AP; 319.1 Melee DPS; 23.07% melee crit; 177 melee hit; 26.86% dodge; 65 resilience;[[ TBR: 1318 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xmbjo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3a3tr6 ][ Updated: Sun Sep 9 22:08:49 2007 ]] |
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| 01:57.41 | art3mis | s/coloured/clutted |
| 01:57.48 | art3mis | s/coloured/cluttered |
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| 01:59.23 | Pkekyo | damnit |
| 01:59.40 | Pkekyo | can anyone supply me with the two links for current and original UI art I posted recently? |
| 02:00.16 | orionshock | Pkekyo>http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg <--- original art |
| 02:00.24 | orionshock | Pkekyo>http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9459/xartjg2.png <--- pretty much how it turned out |
| 02:00.30 | orionshock | those 2? |
| 02:01.10 | Pkekyo | yes, thank you |
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| 02:04.16 | art3mis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7530-cyCircledIronCross.html woo |
| 02:04.50 | Pkekyo | :) |
| 02:05.10 | Pkekyo | gonna upload to wowace? |
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| 02:06.23 | art3mis | eventually, i guess ill ask kael for an account so i can fix the HK one too |
| 02:06.37 | art3mis | cyCircled with TONS of choices is my new goal ;P |
| 02:08.01 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
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| 02:12.40 | ergh99 | thanks for the answers, might i press my luck and ask what BOM is? |
| 02:12.59 | ergh99 | in my world, it's business object model....but i doubt that's what you're referring to |
| 02:13.16 | ulic | Blessing of Might? |
| 02:15.03 | ergh99 | yeah, that was my second guess, but dismissed just as quickly |
| 02:18.59 | ulic | what is it in reference to? |
| 02:20.42 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r521 10/trunk/ControlFreak/ (OptionHouse.lua ControlFreak.toc): ControlFreak - Forgot da embed |
| 02:22.10 | Gngsk | tekkub is using optionhouse? alert the press! |
| 02:22.18 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = 5; local b = 10; return (a and b or nil) |
| 02:22.18 | cladbot | Xinhuan: 10 |
| 02:22.30 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = nil; local b = 10; return (a and b or nil) |
| 02:22.31 | cladbot | Xinhuan: nil |
| 02:22.31 | Tekkub | alert them of what? |
| 02:22.57 | Gngsk | I dunno, is it cool? |
| 02:22.58 | Xinhuan | ternary operators ftw |
| 02:23.14 | Tekkub | it kicks niagra's ass |
| 02:23.22 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 02:23.24 | RaydenUni | ret is the pally leveling spec right? |
| 02:23.29 | Tekkub | though stuff built with Housing Authority looks just as meh |
| 02:23.36 | Diao | any spec works for pally leveling tbh |
| 02:23.37 | Gngsk | well, when I first looked at it I didn't think it was anything I'd be interested in. but if you're using it I might check it out closer |
| 02:23.41 | Tekkub | ret is the pally lol spec |
| 02:28.32 | Pkekyo | huh....school starts in 3 hours...I'm gonna see if I can get some shut-eye... laters all! |
| 02:29.46 | Gngsk | sleep during class, snore and drool on your notebook |
| 02:30.08 | Pkekyo|zZz | Gngsk: I would, but I don't dare falling asleep due to the nature of my classmates |
| 02:30.16 | Gngsk | heh |
| 02:30.30 | Pkekyo|zZz | I'd probably be pink and fluffy when I woke up |
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| 02:32.50 | CIA-22 | 03kameril * r48499 10VisualThemes/ (BlizzardFrames.lua Core.lua Locales/enUS.lua): |
| 02:32.50 | CIA-22 | VisualThemes: |
| 02:32.50 | CIA-22 | -Fixed a taint issue where items were unable to be used from bags in combat. |
| 02:33.49 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r48500 10CallToArms/ (CTALocalization.lua CallToArms.lua): CallToArms: Slash command to toggle the auto lfg feature |
| 02:34.06 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48501 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/ (. AceDB-3.0.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 02:34.06 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - ACE-19 |
| 02:34.06 | CIA-22 | - Initial commit of a drycoded AceDB based on the code from DongleDB |
| 02:34.06 | CIA-22 | - Supports defaults, including ["*"] defaults |
| 02:34.06 | CIA-22 | - Supports namespaces, tied to the profile of the main database |
| 02:34.09 | CIA-22 | - All database sections are created on demand, rather than when the database is initialized |
| 02:34.11 | CIA-22 | - Defaults aren't applied into the table until the section is initialized |
| 02:45.04 | Tekkub | <3 tekNoDuel |
| 02:45.12 | Tekkub | some tard at the fair just tried to duel me |
| 02:45.31 | Tekkub | it's current reply is "Bugger off sod, don't you have a flag to steal somewhere?" |
| 02:45.45 | Tekkub | he replies "What the hell is your problem?" |
| 02:45.46 | Tekkub | :) |
| 02:46.49 | Gngsk | heh |
| 02:46.53 | Antiarc | Is there a list of Assessment tags somewhere? |
| 02:47.14 | Tekkub | what's my problem, I don't like ninja duel invites asshole.... |
| 02:47.28 | Gngsk | don't assessment and aloft use the same tag library? |
| 02:47.42 | Antiarc | No idea |
| 02:47.52 | Thelyna | does it use the DogTag lib? |
| 02:47.56 | Thelyna | check it's embeds |
| 02:47.57 | Gngsk | nah |
| 02:47.59 | mikma | Tekkub: needs a /rasp emote with the whisper |
| 02:48.01 | Gngsk | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 02:48.10 | Gngsk | prolly your best bet to look at that |
| 02:48.27 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r48502 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.zhTW.lua: |
| 02:48.27 | CIA-22 | FuBar_FriendsFu |
| 02:48.27 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 02:51.49 | Tekkub | oh nice idea mikma |
| 02:51.58 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48503 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 02:51.58 | CIA-22 | Ace3 |
| 02:51.58 | CIA-22 | - In order to improve efficiency, AceDB is now on a single line, so it is parsed quicker. |
| 02:52.10 | RaydenUni | what are good ways to make gold other than dailies? farm motes? |
| 02:52.18 | Tekkub | ... single line clad? |
| 02:52.28 | hyperChipmunk | the smallest lib evar |
| 02:52.34 | hyperChipmunk | one LoC |
| 02:52.37 | Tekkub | you also remove extra spaces for super speedups? |
| 02:53.31 | mikma | well, what i see it's an empty file so yes :D |
| 02:54.33 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48504 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 02:54.33 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - ACE-19 |
| 02:54.34 | CIA-22 | - j/k |
| 02:54.36 | Shadowed | Tekkub he also renamed everything to a, b, c, d |
| 02:54.41 | Shadowed | faster to load that way |
| 02:54.59 | cladhaire | hehe ;-) |
| 02:55.21 | Shirik | wow |
| 02:55.24 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 02:55.26 | Shirik | cladhaire is working on Ace3? |
| 02:55.28 | NightHawkTheSane | clad wins. |
| 02:55.38 | mikma | Shirik: no it's am imposter |
| 02:56.13 | Xinhuan | hahahaa |
| 02:56.18 | Xinhuan | i giggled at those commits ;p |
| 02:56.36 | cladhaire | i messed up the pipe and commited an empty file |
| 02:56.38 | cladhaire | i rtehsuck |
| 02:57.32 | Xinhuan | now to test my code... |
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| 03:00.16 | Silowyi | whoever wrote BigWigs, nothing personal, but I hate it :P |
| 03:00.40 | hyperChipmunk | hey, nothing personal |
| 03:00.42 | hyperChipmunk | but i hate you |
| 03:00.50 | cladhaire | true |
| 03:00.53 | cladhaire | i have screenshots. |
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| 03:01.19 | Silowyi | The presentation of information in BigWigs seems vastly inferior to DBM |
| 03:01.45 | Silowyi | having tried both in every instance from Kara -> The Eye over a period of 3 weeks+, BigWigs just doesn't work. |
| 03:01.50 | Silowyi | err for me |
| 03:02.20 | Shadowed | DBM is so horribly bloated |
| 03:02.21 | Shadowed | it makes me sad |
| 03:02.57 | Kameril | if only you could have a choice which mods you install |
| 03:03.01 | Silowyi | oh performance wise there's no question |
| 03:03.07 | Shadowed | i didn't mean performance wise |
| 03:03.10 | Shadowed | i just meant it's horribly bloated |
| 03:03.13 | Shadowed | as in, too much crap |
| 03:03.38 | Silowyi | it seems to use the same LoD scheme as BigWigs |
| 03:03.46 | Silowyi | modular too |
| 03:04.02 | Shadowed | modular isn't an excuse for bloat |
| 03:05.25 | JoshBorke | ~lart tekkub |
| 03:05.25 | purl | gives tekkub an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending tekkub to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 03:08.52 | Keias | hrm |
| 03:09.05 | Keias | Anyone know if smartqueue has any slash commands? |
| 03:13.06 | Silowyi | Is there a way to make bigwigs display the timers in a consistant place, without this size changing/bar moving stuff? |
| 03:13.13 | Silowyi | that's my major issue with it atm |
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| 03:21.58 | Arrowmaster | Silowyi: disable the emphisis bars |
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| 03:30.54 | Aens|Superiority | archimonde down! wheeeee |
| 03:32.52 | Gngsk | grats |
| 03:35.20 | Keias | what loots? |
| 03:35.42 | Xinhuan | any hunters here? |
| 03:35.46 | hyperChipmunk | ya |
| 03:36.02 | Xinhuan | Strength increases only melee AP but not ranged AP for hunters? |
| 03:36.12 | Keias | correct |
| 03:36.42 | Xinhuan | so the calculation for RAP for hunters is (AP from gear + RAP from gear + AP from Agi)? |
| 03:37.32 | Shirik | correct |
| 03:37.35 | Shirik | and 2 agi = 1 rap |
| 03:37.49 | Shirik | also MM hunters are impacted by intellect |
| 03:37.53 | Xinhuan | and the calculation for melee AP for hunters is (AP from gear + AP from STR)? |
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| 03:38.02 | Shirik | correctly specced MM hunters* |
| 03:38.06 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 03:38.10 | hyperChipmunk | 1 agi 1 rap |
| 03:38.16 | Shirik | no |
| 03:38.18 | Shirik | that's the old formula |
| 03:38.21 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 03:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | the old was 2 rap for 1 agi |
| 03:38.59 | Xinhuan | well i'm more interested in knowing whether the calculation for melee AP for hunters is just (AP from gear + AP from STR), unaffected by agi |
| 03:39.05 | Shirik | you're right |
| 03:39.12 | Shirik | Sadly Shirik is a hunter |
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| 03:39.22 | Shirik | But I don't play him anymore |
| 03:40.40 | hyperChipmunk | nono |
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| 03:40.53 | hyperChipmunk | reg atk is one from each agi and str |
| 03:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | hunters usually have more AP than RAP |
| 03:41.12 | hyperChipmunk | unless they have RAP-specific bonuses |
| 03:41.26 | hyperChipmunk | because AP gets STR, where RAP doesn't |
| 03:41.50 | art3mis | if anyone hasnt seen shootem up go see it now, best action flick of the year |
| 03:42.08 | Xinhuan | ok, lets repeat, melee AP = STR + AGI + AP, and RAP = AGI + AP + RAP |
| 03:42.15 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 03:42.17 | Xinhuan | and because of that, melee AP is usually > RAP? |
| 03:42.28 | hyperChipmunk | it is, for me |
| 03:42.36 | Xinhuan | what's your melee AP and RAP |
| 03:42.48 | hyperChipmunk | i think there may be some RAP in the marksmanship tree though |
| 03:43.03 | hyperChipmunk | 997/944 |
| 03:43.08 | Xinhuan | not gonna bother with talents yet ;p |
| 03:43.42 | hyperChipmunk | just saying |
| 03:43.48 | hyperChipmunk | without that, there's not much straight RAP |
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| 03:43.55 | hyperChipmunk | so AP will be higher |
| 03:43.59 | Xinhuan | because i'm not a hunter, and i'm seeing my addon say this hunter's gear has 1584 RAP and 1590 melee AP (from gear alone) |
| 03:44.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: what's your addon? |
| 03:44.50 | Xinhuan | WoWEquip |
| 03:45.46 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8317.0 |
| 03:45.47 | Xinhuan | if you care :) |
| 03:45.57 | hyperChipmunk | yah |
| 03:46.01 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's normal |
| 03:46.17 | Xinhuan | as far as i can see, there's almost nothing that adds RAP specifically |
| 03:46.20 | Diao | oh wow |
| 03:46.22 | Diao | an ingame wowequip |
| 03:46.32 | hyperChipmunk | there's very very few RAP bonuses |
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| 03:46.44 | Xinhuan | yeah Diao, been writing it for 2 months |
| 03:46.44 | hyperChipmunk | and almost all of them are pre-TBC |
| 03:47.17 | Diao | also |
| 03:47.25 | Diao | is anyone else having problems with WAU1 crashing nonstop |
| 03:47.46 | Xinhuan | i'm ironing out bugs with these AP and RAP stuff |
| 03:47.54 | Xinhuan | since the scopes only really apply to Ranged |
| 03:48.05 | ZealotOnAStick | diao - what version? |
| 03:48.16 | ZealotOnAStick | there was a not very well communicated new 1.9.44.x . . . |
| 03:48.26 | Xinhuan | [9/10 10:39:33] <+Etoh> Heh, searching for "search engine" on google comes up with altavista as the first result |
| 03:48.29 | Diao | 1.9.43.602 |
| 03:48.32 | ZealotOnAStick | and the last few days, anyone still on 1.9.43.x is crashtastic. |
| 03:48.32 | Diao | everytime it tries to autoupdate |
| 03:48.34 | Diao | it crashes |
| 03:48.40 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, uninstall it. |
| 03:48.55 | ZealotOnAStick | then go do a new web install, and you'll have 1.9.44 and be good. |
| 03:49.17 | Xinhuan | i'm sticking to 1.9.42 for now |
| 03:49.27 | Diao | ok |
| 03:53.38 | RaydenUni | there needs to be a wowace blog with posts on new "ready to be used" mods |
| 03:53.49 | RaydenUni | let people know what there is |
| 03:53.59 | RaydenUni | NOT a developers blog where we hear about bugs and stuff |
| 03:54.00 | hyperChipmunk | thx 4 volunteering |
| 03:54.07 | RaydenUni | simply selling your mod |
| 03:54.15 | RaydenUni | i could set up a blog |
| 03:54.18 | RaydenUni | but i can't write the content |
| 03:54.31 | RaydenUni | also you probably don't want it at raydenuni.com |
| 03:54.33 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: there is. it's called wowi/curse |
| 03:54.57 | RaydenUni | ? |
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| 04:02.04 | ulic | RaydenUni: he's suggesting that people put their addons on that site then they are ready for public use. |
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| 04:09.32 | NimbleRabit | Are there any mods other than Antagonist that Track cast bars of all hord near you, AND have filtering |
| 04:09.54 | NimbleRabit | or a way to make just one Set of ant's bars bigger than the others |
| 04:10.35 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 04:10.44 | RaydenUni | but that doesn't really sell them to the public :/ |
| 04:10.51 | RaydenUni | maybe i'm just not looking in the right places |
| 04:11.02 | RaydenUni | most of the mods i use i've seen someone on here talking about and i pick it up |
| 04:11.05 | RaydenUni | pitbull for one |
| 04:11.17 | RaydenUni | that wowequip i just downloaded |
| 04:11.56 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/73644 <-----best. arena. match. ever. |
| 04:13.07 | RaydenUni | lots of reflection? |
| 04:13.13 | hyperChipmunk | three warlocks |
| 04:13.22 | hyperChipmunk | went to town on my shadow reflector |
| 04:13.28 | Cidan | wow |
| 04:13.34 | RaydenUni | what is shadow reflector> |
| 04:13.36 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 04:13.37 | Cidan | that reminds me of reading old MUD logs |
| 04:14.07 | hyperChipmunk | three warlocks with tons of warlock debuffs/dots, and one running around feared |
| 04:15.06 | RaydenUni | what is shadow reflector? |
| 04:15.31 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18639 |
| 04:15.37 | Xinhuan | whoa i just found a glaring bug nobody noticed yet in wowequip |
| 04:15.56 | hyperChipmunk | maybe nobody uses wowequip |
| 04:16.11 | Xinhuan | when comparing against a selected profile, it always uses your current player's class instead of the one stored hehe |
| 04:22.40 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r48505 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 04:27.09 | RaydenUni | bummer |
| 04:27.17 | RaydenUni | the wow episode of south park won the emmy |
| 04:27.20 | RaydenUni | i was rooting for avatar |
| 04:28.41 | Gngsk | lol? |
| 04:28.43 | Gngsk | no way it'd lose |
| 04:29.25 | CIA-22 | 03smcn * r48506 10BagPress/ (5 files): |
| 04:29.25 | CIA-22 | BagPress: |
| 04:29.25 | CIA-22 | * Implemented compression of own inventory, credit to ArkInventory |
| 04:29.25 | CIA-22 | * Expanded filter options, more coming in the future |
| 04:29.25 | CIA-22 | * Added X-Website to toc |
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| 04:31.24 | CIA-22 | 03xinhuan * r48507 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.lua): |
| 04:31.24 | CIA-22 | WoWEquip: - Spell damage for different schools now include generic spell damage. Same with Attack Power. |
| 04:31.24 | CIA-22 | - Fixed bug where the selected profile to compare against always uses your player class. |
| 04:31.24 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Stabilized Eternium Scope not being parsed. |
| 04:31.24 | CIA-22 | - Added an entry for Ranged Crit. |
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| 04:43.35 | Tekkub | well at least the BLeach movie was better than the shit filler they've been feeding us :P |
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| 04:49.52 | ZealotOnAStick | is it the one of the sword in the old guy? Sealed Sword Frenzy or whatever? |
| 04:50.38 | ZealotOnAStick | btw, tekkub, can you toss me a link to your IDCard that's not the one on the ace SVN? |
| 04:51.15 | Tekkub | why the hell does everyone think I wrote IDCard |
| 04:51.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. Whose is it then? |
| 04:51.51 | Wobwork | Tem |
| 04:51.54 | Wobwork | or Tain |
| 04:51.57 | ZealotOnAStick | oh. Woops. Sorry. |
| 04:51.59 | Wobwork | one of the other T people |
| 04:52.16 | Wobwork | I get the two of them confused all the time |
| 04:52.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyway - the bleach movie? Is it Sealed Sword Frenzy, or something different? |
| 04:52.54 | Aens|Superiority | different |
| 04:53.19 | Tekkub | who what? |
| 04:56.11 | Tekkub | http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20070910 |
| 05:03.13 | Wobwork | amusing cad |
| 05:03.34 | Wobwork | although the previous ...4 strips are more Penny Arcadeish in their wtfness |
| 05:04.10 | Tekkub | yea they've not been that whopdee lately |
| 05:07.28 | Wobwork | I mean normally the player 1,2,3 style strips are all amusing due to gamer cliches |
| 05:07.28 | Wobwork | but this run was... not even close to funny |
| 05:09.04 | Tekkub | yea it was like, nothing to do with the player stuff |
| 05:09.11 | Tekkub | it was just senseless violence |
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| 05:09.48 | CIA-22 | 03xinhuan * r48508 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - There seems to be an occasional formatting bug if a fontstring starts with '\n'. |
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| 05:22.14 | Gngsk | http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9188/zeldamx3.jpg |
| 05:22.33 | Gngsk | winner of the best rp costume on a pve server |
| 05:23.16 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:23.19 | Wobwork | pretty snazzy |
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| 05:31.16 | NightHawkTheSane | thats rpretty neat |
| 05:31.16 | kebinusan | Tekkub, did someone finally sub the bleach movie? |
| 05:31.40 | kebinusan | oh hot, just checked DB's site |
| 05:31.45 | Tekkub | dattebayo |
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| 05:39.36 | ckknight | Wobwork: yea, the last 1,2,3,4 comics weren't great |
| 05:39.43 | ckknight | part of me wishes I could do a comic strip |
| 05:39.49 | ckknight | but drawing takes far too long for me |
| 05:40.06 | ckknight | and it'd end up being horribly violent, sadistic, and depressing |
| 05:40.23 | ckknight | I'd just feign it being artistic to not seem as horrifying |
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| 05:43.29 | Recluse|zZz | kebinusan: the bleach movie here has subs: http://www.animemafia.net/episode/category/bleach-movie/ |
| 05:48.29 | kebinusan | yeah, I found it on DB's site |
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| 05:52.54 | asmodai | FuBar_PotHerbFu-2.1 ($Revision$)\FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua:293: attempt to index field 'data' (a nil value) |
| 05:52.58 | asmodai | <in C code>: in function `pcall' |
| 05:52.59 | asmodai | FuBar-33424\FuBar.lua:79: in function <Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua:78> |
| 05:53.02 | asmodai | FuBar-33424\FuBar.lua:1490: in function <Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua:1390> |
| 05:53.04 | asmodai | <in C code>: in function `pcall' |
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| 05:56.22 | Xinhuan | it seems like the battle for library naming schemes will reach no conclusion ;p |
| 05:56.41 | orionshock | was bout to say the same |
| 05:56.54 | orionshock | fk 3 pages in under 24hrs |
| 05:58.03 | orionshock | problems of the "design by committee" method... tbh one of the ace-dev's need to take lead and come up with something. |
| 05:58.37 | Xinhuan | won't really work - because libraries aren't ace specific ;p |
| 05:58.57 | Xinhuan | lib authors can just god damn well name their library anything |
| 05:59.13 | asmodai | libanything? :) |
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| 05:59.35 | orionshock | true.. |
| 05:59.36 | Xinhuan | doesn't even have to start with "lib", thats just something everyone at least agrees on |
| 05:59.40 | orionshock | btw who owns the SVN? |
| 06:00.52 | Xinhuan | is that relevant? |
| 06:01.15 | orionshock | sorta |
| 06:01.37 | Xinhuan | how so? |
| 06:01.45 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.20 | Dhraga | ~seen wmrojer |
| 06:02.23 | purl | Dhraga: i haven't seen 'wmrojer' |
| 06:02.55 | Wobwork | ckknight: There's a great serial killer one frame comic out there |
| 06:02.59 | Wobwork | can't recall what it's called though |
| 06:03.01 | ckknight | link |
| 06:03.22 | Wobwork | aha |
| 06:03.24 | Wobwork | http://www.choppingblock.org/ |
| 06:03.25 | Wobwork | google you saved me |
| 06:04.14 | Dhraga | Could any coder add the zone name The Black Morass to FuBar_RecZone.lua its missing The Black Morass and spamming the chat when you are doing a bm run |
| 06:04.36 | *** join/#wowace _Arch (n=Arch@ns2.webm.ru) |
| 06:04.55 | ckknight | lol, Wobwork |
| 06:05.20 | ckknight | Wobwork: my idea was to instead have a continuing story |
| 06:06.14 | orionshock | Xinhuan: this is called the "Wow-Ace Community" ; but we're missing one thing.. it's called community Leadership; there is no Defined roles, most of it is hearsay. |
| 06:06.14 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/314/ |
| 06:06.23 | Xinhuan | Heh, searching for "search engine" on google comes up with altavista as the first result |
| 06:06.32 | Xinhuan | in fact Google doesn't even list itself until page 2 |
| 06:06.54 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:07.05 | Wobwork | orionshock: Kaelten |
| 06:07.18 | orionshock | said to me: ""officially, Kaelten owns the svn and the website.""; if that's the case then.. by defacto he is the community lead, and needs to act it |
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| 06:07.52 | NightHawkTheSane | "needs"? |
| 06:07.56 | orionshock | for crying outloud, this b/s arround the lib-name method ... should not be in the fourms it should be on the wiki being DECLARED by the leadership baord |
| 06:08.00 | Wobwork | It's not just ace addons that need to agree to a naming scheme |
| 06:08.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think he NEEDS to do anything |
| 06:08.14 | Wobwork | it's everyone who writes agnostic libraries |
| 06:08.24 | orionshock | screw conventions and methods; it dosn't meand that there can't be standards to the SVN and how things are done on it. |
| 06:08.42 | Wobwork | WowAce is not the only framework out there |
| 06:08.58 | Wobwork | nor is it the 'deciding' voice when it comes to addon writing |
| 06:09.03 | orionshock | and fk braking things; if that's what happens -- so be it-- if ur maintaing a addon you should be in touch with whom it is hosted with |
| 06:09.27 | Wobwork | That might work |
| 06:09.29 | Wobwork | if we were being paid to write addons =P |
| 06:09.38 | Wobwork | If you are paying us to write addons |
| 06:09.47 | orionshock | Wob - screw the code at this point; i have nothing to do with it.. im talking about common sense management. |
| 06:09.49 | Wobwork | By all means say "Right, you -will- do this now" |
| 06:10.04 | Wobwork | But as you are not, your opinion counts as much as everyone elses |
| 06:10.07 | art3mis | Wobwork: you get tolerated instaed of being branded an outcast, what more do you want ;) |
| 06:10.30 | Wobwork | feh, as if I cared about anyone's opinion of me =P |
| 06:10.46 | Wobwork | I say it as I see it |
| 06:10.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: you.. you don't care about me?! |
| 06:11.03 | *** join/#wowace Raz^^ (i=alyx-@r4ay106.net.upc.cz) |
| 06:11.10 | Wobwork | NightHawkTheSane: nah, I said I don't care about your opinion of me |
| 06:11.14 | Wobwork | I still luvs you Nighty =P |
| 06:11.21 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! |
| 06:11.25 | art3mis | remove the capital ;P |
| 06:11.41 | Wobwork | s/N/n/ |
| 06:11.41 | NightHawkTheSane | and add an l. |
| 06:11.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 06:11.42 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:12.13 | art3mis | so |
| 06:12.22 | art3mis | what should my next task be |
| 06:12.22 | orionshock | lol... the insanity that is wow ace... |
| 06:12.45 | art3mis | i can either make a ton of cycircled button overlays |
| 06:12.59 | art3mis | OR |
| 06:13.03 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 06:13.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i come in here |
| 06:13.10 | sag_ich_nicht | and you're still flaming over libs |
| 06:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, its just hin |
| 06:13.23 | NightHawkTheSane | him |
| 06:13.24 | art3mis | mess around with eep2's scripting and graphics and make more general ui's |
| 06:13.29 | NightHawkTheSane | the rest of us are all loving Wobwork |
| 06:13.39 | art3mis | wow |
| 06:13.41 | art3mis | i come in here |
| 06:13.48 | art3mis | and your still flaming sag |
| 06:13.50 | sag_ich_nicht | for christs sake, just force the rules onto the SVN and be done with it, there are too many orphaned addons in it atm anyway |
| 06:13.56 | art3mis | it's amazing! |
| 06:13.57 | sag_ich_nicht | mornin art3mis |
| 06:14.01 | sag_ich_nicht | i just came here :( |
| 06:14.02 | art3mis | heya |
| 06:14.16 | sag_ich_nicht | *on it |
| 06:14.30 | art3mis | so what should i do |
| 06:14.36 | art3mis | wooooooooooooooo"! |
| 06:14.44 | art3mis | adult swim is bringing back bebop! |
| 06:14.46 | art3mis | yay! |
| 06:15.03 | art3mis | i hope in the process they remove everything that tim and eric make |
| 06:16.13 | ZealotOnAStick | I want more Dexter NOW! |
| 06:16.30 | ZealotOnAStick | unfortunately, as I've already watched the first 2 eps of S2, I have to wait even longer. |
| 06:16.33 | ckknight | same |
| 06:16.36 | ZealotOnAStick | but that's what makes me want more NOW. |
| 06:16.37 | ckknight | also same. |
| 06:16.49 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: they have it on sho.com? |
| 06:16.57 | ZealotOnAStick | I rather doubt it. |
| 06:17.01 | art3mis | they did last year |
| 06:17.06 | art3mis | had the first 2 eps streamed |
| 06:17.09 | ZealotOnAStick | should still be on eztv. |
| 06:17.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes, but these haven't aired yet. |
| 06:17.43 | art3mis | neither had s1e1 at the time ;P |
| 06:17.51 | ckknight | ~seen Kaelten |
| 06:17.52 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@69.109.103.158> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 9h 19m 54s ago, saying: 'ya cog is pretty cool'. |
| 06:17.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, maybe they have, I dunno. |
| 06:18.14 | art3mis | ckk |
| 06:18.20 | ckknight | art |
| 06:18.20 | art3mis | go make me a mazzle style installer ;P |
| 06:18.29 | art3mis | that should absorb lots of yer time ;P |
| 06:18.29 | ckknight | never used mazzle |
| 06:18.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Do better . . . make us a version of DoTimer without the suck. |
| 06:19.04 | ZealotOnAStick | I was absolutely stunned at how fucking stupidly spammy its Comm module and stuff is. |
| 06:19.09 | art3mis | essentially all it does is put the saved vars in the proper places and enable/configure the addons you tell it to |
| 06:19.20 | art3mis | or just downlo0ad and run it ocnce |
| 06:19.37 | art3mis | and then make em a clone so i can put in whatever layouts and addons i want into it easily ;P |
| 06:20.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Call it Dazzler! Then have a tiny image of the chick from the marvel comic as the icon, so relatively few people will "get" it. |
| 06:20.47 | ZealotOnAStick | *sigh* on another Hellgate pwipe. |
| 06:22.16 | Wobwork | Hellgate? |
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| 06:22.52 | Wobwork | ZealotOnAStick: as long as it forces you to yell "I JUST HAD AN INTENSE DAZZLEGASM" it'll be good |
| 06:22.58 | art3mis | my god the real santa! |
| 06:23.01 | art3mis | get him jesus! |
| 06:23.09 | art3mis | i help those who help themselves........ |
| 06:23.11 | ZealotOnAStick | wob: Oh hell no. |
| 06:23.26 | art3mis | it'll make you yell that 1 character per line ;P |
| 06:23.56 | ZealotOnAStick | And. . . . oh, yeah, woops. No, not Hellgate London. Not at all. I'm not testing it. There's no NDA I'm bound by that says I can't mention being a tester for it. Forget I mentioned it. |
| 06:24.21 | Wobwork | ZealotOnAStick: mentioned what? |
| 06:24.27 | Wobwork | PS (Is it cool?) |
| 06:24.46 | art3mis | age of armour is kind of fun |
| 06:24.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Diablo 2 on crack in post-modern cataclysmic london. |
| 06:24.49 | orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: ... an interesting idea to "force rules onto the SVN" .... one problem who would come up with these rules? better yet who would enforce them |
| 06:24.54 | art3mis | the help leaves a bit to be desired though |
| 06:24.59 | Wobwork | ZealotOnAStick: sounds nifty |
| 06:24.59 | ZealotOnAStick | I've had lots of problems with AoA |
| 06:25.06 | art3mis | like what? |
| 06:25.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Running through all of the char creation and putting the armor together, saying it can't create my armor, and booting me back to the first screen of char create. |
| 06:25.56 | ZealotOnAStick | About 8 times. |
| 06:26.14 | art3mis | oh yeah that was the first day |
| 06:26.20 | art3mis | thats all better now |
| 06:26.32 | ZealotOnAStick | I was actually going to try it again a bit ago. |
| 06:26.49 | ZealotOnAStick | but I'd have to go dig out my stupidly esoteric randomized username and password. |
| 06:26.56 | ZealotOnAStick | and decided it was too much hassle. |
| 06:26.59 | Wobwork | any website for AoA? |
| 06:27.14 | art3mis | theres a couple of things that bug me |
| 06:27.42 | art3mis | you cant attack with the mouse |
| 06:27.49 | art3mis | and the inventory doesnt make much sense |
| 06:28.13 | CIA-22 | 03recluse * r48509 10TextSpy/code/TextSpy.lua: |
| 06:28.13 | CIA-22 | TextSpy: refinements |
| 06:28.13 | CIA-22 | - Added custom frame support for MSBT output |
| 06:28.13 | CIA-22 | - Allow hideWithoutStandby |
| 06:29.05 | ZealotOnAStick | It probably makes more sense in Korean. Or whatever asian country it's based in. |
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| 06:30.06 | the-golem | china |
| 06:30.24 | the-golem | because it wants me to download chinese language for my computer lol |
| 06:32.59 | art3mis | i think the website is aoausa.com |
| 06:33.03 | art3mis | aokusa! |
| 06:33.22 | sag_ich_nicht | [08:24] <orionshock> sag_ich_nicht: ... an interesting idea to "force rules onto the SVN" .... one problem who would come up with these rules? better yet who would enforce them <--some rules can be enforced pretty easily using a shellscript and grep :P |
| 06:33.56 | art3mis | and the winner is #3 in a quantum finish.. NO FAIR you changed they outcome by measureing it |
| 06:34.01 | orionshock | ~seen Nymbia |
| 06:34.03 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-149-62.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 1h 11m 54s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 06:34.20 | orionshock | ... question : Nymbia -- male/female? |
| 06:34.47 | ckknight | male irl |
| 06:34.53 | ckknight | female char |
| 06:35.00 | ckknight | named after the char |
| 06:35.50 | art3mis | <ckknight> 5'10 brown hair chesnut eyes, likes grape soda, long walks on the beach and men that aren't afraid to cry |
| 06:36.02 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 06:36.09 | orionshock | hehe.. tbh alot of the big names i though where female till i saw a pic posted by cog that had faces and names... |
| 06:36.21 | ckknight | nobody's female. |
| 06:36.26 | ckknight | except Cairenn |
| 06:36.45 | orionshock | to my surprise i found that out |
| 06:36.47 | art3mis | and loppe |
| 06:37.02 | ckknight | oh, yea |
| 06:37.07 | ckknight | but she wasn't in the pic |
| 06:37.10 | sag_ich_nicht | like 90% of the addon authors are nametraps. |
| 06:37.15 | art3mis | cairrenn is a little tiny cutie |
| 06:37.28 | ZealotOnAStick | nametraps? |
| 06:37.39 | art3mis | named incorrectly |
| 06:37.46 | art3mis | like sag ;) |
| 06:37.58 | ckknight | mine's not |
| 06:38.06 | ckknight | I'm here, at face value |
| 06:38.11 | Recluse | <-male, but i play alliance all fem, horde all male |
| 06:38.13 | ckknight | not hiding who I am |
| 06:38.15 | Hjalte | Hey, where can one see that picture? |
| 06:38.27 | orionshock | like Iriel , that one threw me the first time i saw a pic of him irl, even the posts where misleading sometimes |
| 06:38.34 | art3mis | saide fromc airenn where did someone find a lens wide enough ;P |
| 06:38.43 | Xinhuan | so does my name sound male or female to you? |
| 06:38.46 | art3mis | aside from |
| 06:38.48 | Recluse | lol |
| 06:38.54 | ZealotOnAStick | stitching. |
| 06:38.56 | art3mis | you sound like a chink xin ;P |
| 06:39.05 | Xinhuan | i am indeed chinese |
| 06:39.10 | art3mis | woo! |
| 06:39.16 | ckknight | Xinhuan: in China? |
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| 06:39.21 | Xinhuan | in singapore |
| 06:39.21 | ckknight | ah, alright |
| 06:39.22 | Xinhuan | this is indeed my real name heh |
| 06:39.25 | the-golem | female |
| 06:39.36 | art3mis | heh i just realized thats the first time ive said chink in like 20 years |
| 06:39.42 | orionshock | male and by the way you type i'd have to pit you late 20's... :D |
| 06:39.43 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: New lover? |
| 06:39.45 | the-golem | i've no idea, im jsut guessing |
| 06:39.50 | art3mis | and the best part is taht most chinese dont even care ;P |
| 06:40.01 | orionshock | Xinhuan: male and by the way you type i'd have to pit you late 20's... :D |
| 06:40.07 | orionshock | *put |
| 06:40.10 | Xinhuan | i'm 25 |
| 06:40.17 | orionshock | lol close.. |
| 06:40.21 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm i'm not sure anymore, orionshock weren't you working for AT&T or am i confusing something? :X |
| 06:40.29 | art3mis | in this corner Xin, in the red corner the late 20's! ready FIGHT! |
| 06:40.43 | orionshock | i indrectly work for AT&T |
| 06:40.46 | Xinhuan | sorry busy doing dailies :) |
| 06:40.59 | Xinhuan | GRYBRBBY |
| 06:41.03 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock good. maybe you can answer a question to me |
| 06:41.08 | Xinhuan | like 12g free for 1 minute of work |
| 06:41.08 | art3mis | orionshock: paying your cell phone bill on tiem does not make you an employee ;P |
| 06:41.08 | orionshock | lol |
| 06:41.20 | Wobwork | 新欢？ |
| 06:41.33 | sag_ich_nicht | is there anything else besides NAZIZON available in vermont? |
| 06:41.33 | the-golem | lol |
| 06:41.38 | the-golem | is that verizon? |
| 06:41.43 | the-golem | lol |
| 06:41.43 | art3mis | fior land? |
| 06:41.43 | orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: ...don't know |
| 06:41.48 | art3mis | err for land |
| 06:41.48 | sag_ich_nicht | damn |
| 06:41.59 | art3mis | just get cable ;P |
| 06:42.04 | art3mis | cable ip phone > land line |
| 06:42.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not in vermont |
| 06:42.10 | sag_ich_nicht | friend of mine is |
| 06:42.26 | orionshock | there is one thing... jelley in #wowi-lounge is on sbc network .. and i feel sad for that person |
| 06:42.35 | the-golem | im pretty sure it has att also ^^ |
| 06:42.44 | the-golem | ATT is EVERYWHERE |
| 06:42.47 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 06:42.49 | the-golem | LIKE A PLAGUE |
| 06:42.52 | sag_ich_nicht | not in vermont, apparently. |
| 06:42.55 | the-golem | <-- uses ATT :P |
| 06:43.01 | the-golem | i dont buy it |
| 06:43.07 | sag_ich_nicht | go check it |
| 06:43.11 | the-golem | ^^ |
| 06:43.18 | orionshock | oh god and in richardson Texas too... ewe.. last time i checked they where in a perpetual outage |
| 06:43.33 | Recluse | i'm on sbc, but only cause there is nothing else here for broadband >.< |
| 06:43.40 | orionshock | the-golem: scrm01.sbcglobal.net... sacramento |
| 06:43.55 | sag_ich_nicht | zipcode 05401 |
| 06:43.55 | sag_ich_nicht | go ahead |
| 06:43.55 | the-golem | find me a vermond zipcode |
| 06:44.03 | sag_ich_nicht | go to try anything besides NAZIZON |
| 06:44.16 | sag_ich_nicht | and NO, sprint/nextel do NOT work, altho spring claims it does |
| 06:44.20 | the-golem | orionshock: ATT bought SBC |
| 06:44.25 | orionshock | lol i have verizon cell phone |
| 06:44.25 | sag_ich_nicht | *sprint |
| 06:44.30 | orionshock | the-golem: actualy it was the other way arround |
| 06:44.49 | orionshock | sbc purchased att and kept their name b/c of the international reputation they have |
| 06:45.03 | the-golem | no |
| 06:45.07 | the-golem | they didnt |
| 06:45.12 | the-golem | oh wait |
| 06:45.16 | orionshock | AT&T powered by SBC communications |
| 06:45.17 | the-golem | no that doesnt make sense either |
| 06:45.21 | sag_ich_nicht | they did. |
| 06:45.39 | the-golem | no i got myself confused |
| 06:45.43 | orionshock | the-golem: i answer that question all the time ... begrugingly |
| 06:45.43 | art3mis | sbc was created by att under a diff name |
| 06:45.48 | art3mis | and remerged |
| 06:46.03 | the-golem | umm |
| 06:46.14 | the-golem | PacBell --> SBC --> ATT |
| 06:46.28 | sag_ich_nicht | wrong |
| 06:46.32 | Recluse | my sbc connection is so 1337 my bandwidth drops to 0bps while the phone rings, so i get these lag pulses if i don't answer the phone fast enough |
| 06:46.36 | art3mis | and att sold cell to cingular and then repurchased it all |
| 06:46.41 | the-golem | no, seriously, in my town, thats how it went |
| 06:46.42 | orionshock | Pac Bell is the Tx area co that got split when att got to big and the anti trust came though |
| 06:46.44 | the-golem | the same building |
| 06:46.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Pacbel+Ameritec+Southwestern Bell=SBC |
| 06:46.54 | the-golem | orionshock: thats Ma Bell |
| 06:47.03 | the-golem | PacBell = Pacific Bell |
| 06:47.05 | sag_ich_nicht | SBC+AT&T+Bell South=AT&T |
| 06:47.08 | the-golem | texas isnt pacific :P |
| 06:47.19 | orionshock | Southwestern bell , Pacific Bell, Navada Bell, Ameritech |
| 06:47.26 | sag_ich_nicht | ma bell is slowly reassembling |
| 06:47.26 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:47.30 | orionshock | there is like 4 more |
| 06:47.45 | liquidzoo | verizon (land line) was one of them |
| 06:47.49 | orionshock | Southwestern bell purchaced navada and bcame SBC |
| 06:47.56 | the-golem | anyway, what i was saying is that the same building was originally pacific bell, then went to SBC, and is now ATT |
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| 06:48.06 | orionshock | sbc then purchaced pac bell, and ameritech and .. the CT one |
| 06:48.30 | orionshock | then they turned arround and purchaced ATT and now where back to square one. |
| 06:49.11 | sag_ich_nicht | not really, ATT still has to eat verizon |
| 06:49.16 | the-golem | sag_ich_nicht: i put in the zip at att and it says "AT&T Local and long distance service is available in your area!" |
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| 06:49.20 | the-golem | and now wants an address |
| 06:49.22 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.26 | sag_ich_nicht | the-golem go continue, try to order |
| 06:49.32 | sag_ich_nicht | look up ANY address there |
| 06:49.40 | sag_ich_nicht | it will say it's not available |
| 06:49.44 | sag_ich_nicht | no matter what you put |
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| 06:49.51 | orionshock | btw the-golem ever called tech support? |
| 06:50.08 | sag_ich_nicht | obviously he has not. |
| 06:50.15 | orionshock | lol |
| 06:51.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. NPCs with different colored !s over their heads. |
| 06:51.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Now, where've I seen that before? |
| 06:51.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Although the little ! aura floor bit when you accept is sorta neat. |
| 06:51.49 | the-golem | orionshock: nope |
| 06:51.49 | ZealotOnAStick | s/floor/flood/ |
| 06:51.52 | the-golem | never needed too |
| 06:52.08 | the-golem | to* |
| 06:52.17 | ZealotOnAStick | I generally only call tech support when there's something wrong on THEIR end. |
| 06:52.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i figure ATT will go to eat qwest first |
| 06:53.18 | sag_ich_nicht | but it will take a while for them to stockpile enough money for it :X |
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| 06:55.47 | Pheredhel | hi |
| 06:56.01 | art3mis | what is it about futurama that makes them able to get tear jerk reactions from cartoon characters? |
| 06:57.12 | Pheredhel | uhm sorry but: wtf is the tsvn:logtemplate property ? |
| 06:59.07 | sag_ich_nicht | probably comes from tortuise svn |
| 06:59.16 | Pheredhel | somebody set it on ccbreaker and it seems to make no sense at all... |
| 06:59.44 | Pheredhel | ok... -_- so no use |
| 06:59.44 | the-golem | wow |
| 06:59.58 | the-golem | no att in vermont, for real, thats so lame ^^ |
| 07:00.50 | the-golem | http://publicservice.vermont.gov/telecom/telecom-utilities.html |
| 07:01.48 | the-golem | *but* |
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| 07:02.32 | the-golem | scroll down to the bottom of that page, and it lists att as a CLEC |
| 07:03.40 | the-golem | sag_ich_nicht: http://publicservice.vermont.gov/images/telcoservicemap.gif |
| 07:03.56 | ckknight | lol http://www.choppingblock.org/d/20000912.html |
| 07:04.32 | yssaril | Pheredhel: the logtemplate gives you a prewritten part when you commit to the svn so you dont have to keep typing out your addon name |
| 07:04.57 | yssaril | at least thats what its used for with the ace svn (cause without the name it wont post) |
| 07:05.16 | Pheredhel | ok, so still no sense, as I dont expect many people to change the addon... |
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| 07:06.09 | Pheredhel | and as I do not use any gui svn client (and it's not a default svn property...) it just makes no sense to me, why someone set it... |
| 07:06.57 | yssaril | Pheredhel: idk it make my life easier if it is set :P but i dont muck with other people addons (at least i dont post them) |
| 07:07.19 | orionshock | yssaril: ping |
| 07:07.26 | yssaril | pong |
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| 07:07.40 | orionshock | you had a question or wanted my attention the other day :D |
| 07:07.59 | Xinhuan | question: if i did /script for i = 1, 10000 do a = {} end, where would all the memory used be attributed to? |
| 07:08.11 | Pheredhel | just wondered... or is turtoise svn one of these clients that just do something without ever asking? |
| 07:08.13 | orionshock | bliz UI |
| 07:08.24 | yssaril | ahh yes for tattle is there anyway of puching past ~5000 teams when you scan the armory? no matter how high i set it it always end up being ~5000 |
| 07:08.36 | Xinhuan | yssaril: armory only shows the top 5000 |
| 07:08.43 | Xinhuan | feel free to check blizzard armory |
| 07:08.46 | orionshock | figured there was a limit |
| 07:08.50 | Wobwork | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
| 07:08.50 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, hyperChipmunk, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 07:08.51 | yssaril | damnit |
| 07:09.03 | ckknight | Xinhuan: it's attributed to the Blizzard UI |
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| 07:09.21 | orionshock | and bliz UI isn't accounted for on the addons listing hehe... |
| 07:09.48 | Xinhuan | blizz is so NOT transparent ;p |
| 07:10.59 | yssaril | k that explains it still a load of crap imo |
| 07:11.30 | Xinhuan | does an OnUpdate function run if the frame is shown, but its not visible because its parent is hidden? |
| 07:11.37 | Xinhuan | i never really bothered with that ever |
| 07:12.01 | yssaril | dont think so but could be wrong |
| 07:12.14 | yssaril | i really dont like using onupdate |
| 07:12.52 | orionshock | Lib Naming Schemes thread : well as this thread is mostly directed at the wow-ace SVN, with out input from community management this thread is pointless. we can theorize and speculate all day long but with out someone with the "Rightful-Authority" it' just that theory and speculation. |
| 07:12.54 | Xinhuan | onupdates are ok if you really need something to be calculated every frame |
| 07:14.32 | orionshock | im sorry didn't mean to brake conversation :\ |
| 07:14.53 | yssaril | Xinhuan: true but i dont like to run calcs every frame unless i really and i mean really have to |
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| 07:15.38 | yssaril | the more calcs you do in a frame the longer the frame is the lowere your FPS |
| 07:15.51 | Xinhuan | wowequip has a onupdate function for the Copy Target button - enables or disables it depending on whether the target is inspectable (and in range) ;p |
| 07:15.57 | Xinhuan | i can't really see a way around that hehe |
| 07:16.16 | yssaril | what does it do? |
| 07:16.31 | Xinhuan | all it does is check if CanInspect("target") |
| 07:16.37 | Xinhuan | if true, enable button, if false, disable button |
| 07:16.54 | yssaril | yea not much you can do there |
| 07:17.01 | Wobwork | CanHas("target") |
| 07:17.06 | ckknight | that's a valid OnUpdate |
| 07:17.12 | ckknight | CanHas("bukkit") |
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| 07:17.34 | Xinhuan | it needs OnUpdate because no event is fired or anything if your target runs out of range ;p |
| 07:17.45 | Xinhuan | you simply have to keep checking all the time hehe |
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| 07:19.24 | orionshock | plz tell me that on update is only used when the button is shown |
| 07:20.13 | yssaril | just a personal prefference but do you still run that while in combat? (i like to turn my onupdate functions off during combat (unless they relate to combat of course) |
| 07:20.44 | Xinhuan | orionshock: OnUpdates of a frame don't run if the frame isn't visible on screen |
| 07:21.26 | Xinhuan | you don't even have to :SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) |
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| 07:21.43 | Xinhuan | blizzard UI simply doesn't call your OnUpdate at all if the frame isn't visible |
| 07:21.51 | the-golem | right |
| 07:21.52 | yssaril | yea but there are some people out there that create a frame with an onupdate on it that is always shown but has no contense |
| 07:22.08 | the-golem | because theres nothign (visible) to update ^^ |
| 07:22.44 | yssaril | yea but alot of time it's not necessary to run it all the time |
| 07:22.57 | Fisker- | WTF Punkie` |
| 07:23.10 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r48510 10PitBull_AltAura/ (layout.lua options.lua update.lua): PitBull_AltAura: use the frameWidth option in split mode. |
| 07:23.14 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Punkie |
| 07:23.15 | Fisker- | >* |
| 07:23.16 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:24.59 | Hjalte | Is jerry ever on #wowace= |
| 07:25.00 | Hjalte | ? |
| 07:25.08 | Wobwork | ~seen jerry |
| 07:25.10 | purl | jerry <n=jerry@p508BE3C3.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 237d 5h 5m 36s ago, saying: 'abrotman: please part.'. |
| 07:25.10 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 07:25.19 | Wobwork | not that I've ever seen |
| 07:25.22 | Xinhuan | and that's probably a different jerry |
| 07:25.26 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 07:26.09 | the-golem | ... |
| 07:26.17 | the-golem | no spirit of redemtion? |
| 07:26.48 | Wobwork | Improved Death? |
| 07:27.17 | Hjalte | Wowork, it's improved death + 5% more spirit now.. AS nice talent. |
| 07:27.20 | Hjalte | A* |
| 07:27.26 | Hjalte | Wpbwprl |
| 07:27.28 | Wobwork | hehe aye |
| 07:27.31 | Hjalte | eh |
| 07:27.34 | Wobwork | I have it =P |
| 07:27.35 | Hjalte | wobwork* |
| 07:27.47 | Wobwork | Hjalte: tab completion ftw =) |
| 07:28.08 | Pheredhel | I like starwars for priest ^^ |
| 07:28.12 | Hjalte | Wobwork: Ah, smart! |
| 07:30.18 | the-golem | why wouldnt a holy priest get spirit of redemption? |
| 07:31.29 | the-golem | too bad you cant rez yourself, that'd be awesome :P |
| 07:31.31 | Wobwork | masochist? |
| 07:31.38 | Wobwork | lrn2shaman =P |
| 07:32.03 | Wobwork | Actually, imp death -should- put you out of combat |
| 07:32.11 | Wobwork | so you can throw up a final res =P |
| 07:32.25 | Fisker- | there |
| 07:32.30 | Fisker- | i win |
| 07:32.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:03] <the-golem> sag_ich_nicht: http://publicservice.vermont.gov/images/telcoservicemap.gif <--i told you, it's NAZIZON only. |
| 07:32.46 | the-golem | hehe |
| 07:33.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:08] <yssaril> ahh yes for tattle is there anyway of puching past ~5000 teams when you scan the armory? no matter how high i set it it always end up being ~5000 <--lern2dopies arena info, works way better. |
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| 07:34.37 | yssaril | sag_ich_nicht: teach me o master :P |
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| 07:36.30 | sag_ich_nicht | http://downloads.curse.com/details/8359/ |
| 07:36.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 07:37.20 | orionshock | anyone know what the parent frame for quartz is? |
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| 07:37.52 | sag_ich_nicht | why don't you use editingUI or fluidframes to find out? :P |
| 07:39.18 | orionshock | found it |
| 07:40.34 | ckknight | PETA: People for Eating Tasty Animals |
| 07:40.41 | orionshock | lol |
| 07:41.01 | orionshock | "ID10T error caused by a PEBKAC issue" -- try that one |
| 07:41.02 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight |
| 07:41.11 | ckknight | yes? |
| 07:41.52 | abbat_w | i real PiL. metatables looks like objects in perl ;) |
| 07:41.58 | abbat_w | read even |
| 07:42.34 | abbat_w | and it is possible to use references in lua? can't find something about this |
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| 07:42.45 | ckknight | references how? |
| 07:42.55 | orionshock | why referance - call direct |
| 07:43.05 | abbat_w | tables always pass by reference for example |
| 07:43.08 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: yes? |
| 07:43.11 | nevcairiel | objects are passed by reference, i dont think you can reference other values |
| 07:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | someone updated HonorFu yesteday to use embed.xml :) |
| 07:43.21 | sag_ich_nicht | sry had to go afk fo a moment <.> |
| 07:43.27 | abbat_w | table a, table b. a = b. this is copy reference to data from b to a |
| 07:43.43 | sag_ich_nicht | just thought you might want to know :P |
| 07:43.47 | abbat_w | can i reference other values? |
| 07:43.59 | ckknight | everything acts like a copy by reference |
| 07:44.07 | ckknight | some things aren't on the backend, though |
| 07:44.12 | ckknight | such as numbers |
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| 07:44.38 | abbat_w | ok. A = "this is a". how i can setup B to point to A value? it is possible? |
| 07:44.47 | nevcairiel | no |
| 07:44.56 | abbat_w | kk |
| 07:45.25 | orionshock | why referance - call direct |
| 07:45.38 | ckknight | heard you the first time |
| 07:45.44 | ckknight | you also still are misspelling reference |
| 07:45.45 | kadrahil | lies! |
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| 07:46.02 | orionshock | :D |
| 07:46.05 | ckknight | abbat_w: you can do B = A, which will then cause them to reference the same string |
| 07:46.18 | ckknight | abbat_w: but if you alter what A points to, then B will no longer point to it |
| 07:46.51 | nevcairiel | its only referencing the same string because its implemented in lua that way |
| 07:47.00 | abbat_w | Actually lua make a reference? Not a value copy? |
| 07:47.41 | Shirik|zZz | Correct |
| 07:47.44 | Shirik|zZz | All strings are interned |
| 07:47.56 | Shirik|zZz | However, don't think of it that way. Modifying one string will NOT modify the other. In fact, strings are immutable |
| 07:48.02 | ckknight | abbat_w: answer me this, though: how do you change the value of A without changing what it points to as well? |
| 07:48.06 | Shirik|zZz | It just makes a completely new string |
| 07:48.19 | ckknight | shirik's quite right |
| 07:48.25 | abbat_w | Shirik|zZz, i ask not only about strings |
| 07:48.40 | ckknight | this applies to all types |
| 07:48.52 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, night guys |
| 07:49.03 | ckknight | A = {}; B = A; A.alpha = "bravo"; assert(B.alpha == "bravo") |
| 07:49.20 | ckknight | but if you do A = somethingElse |
| 07:49.23 | ckknight | then B won't point to it |
| 07:49.31 | ckknight | it'll still point to the previous table |
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| 07:50.25 | abbat_w | ok |
| 07:50.51 | abbat_w | And this is an idea |
| 07:51.44 | abbat_w | I trying to make mod with idea like Parrot. But i want to use bars (like candybars) to display data in different 'containers' |
| 07:52.13 | abbat_w | First off i think i need something like 'BarContainer' which hold data to display |
| 07:52.42 | pb_ee1 | Morning |
| 07:52.57 | abbat_w | if i put something to container or update any entry in container, bars reflect these changes |
| 07:54.09 | orionshock | update the bars directly - don't use a container/table ; maybe to query current values yes |
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| 07:54.28 | abbat_w | wait wait, orionshock |
| 07:55.14 | yssaril_ | sag_ich_nicht: alright am gonna try dopie out but his arena SV file is rediculessly huge and not compressed in any way shape and form |
| 07:55.22 | abbat_w | Maybe best way is create own 'BarContainer' with OnUpdate() and redraw all bars in it |
| 07:55.31 | sag_ich_nicht | yssaril true. |
| 07:55.37 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's mostly complete at least. |
| 07:56.01 | sag_ich_nicht | if you want to make it better, go ahead and write to him :P |
| 07:56.02 | yssaril_ | true and his armory scrapping is better |
| 07:56.22 | art3mis | oh i meant to ask has anyone mucked around with eep2's scripting? |
| 07:56.37 | art3mis | had a generic question about it |
| 07:56.51 | yssaril_ | he said he ahs something up his sleave for the SV file size so i will wait till that is done and then comment about it if it is still to big |
| 07:57.12 | orionshock | abbat_w: .. OnUpdate? |
| 07:57.19 | orionshock | try not to use it :D |
| 07:57.24 | yssaril_ | anways gnight guys |
| 07:57.47 | art3mis | im wondering if it's possible to spawn disabled or hidden addons within that box or does it just create a panel when it finds a certain parent? |
| 07:58.25 | art3mis | so it would behave more as just a panel instead of a container |
| 08:03.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc did you have time yet? |
| 08:04.59 | art3mis | http://edgeofnowhere.cc/viewtopic.php?t=367641&sid=052b902f3515e8795750f0989627e012 |
| 08:05.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ssssssh |
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| 08:06.07 | art3mis | http://edgeofnowhere.cc/viewtopic.php?t=367639&sid=052b902f3515e8795750f0989627e012 |
| 08:06.11 | art3mis | heh that ones pretty funny too |
| 08:09.06 | abbat_w | orionshock, but why? CandyBar use onupdate for every bar |
| 08:09.18 | abbat_w | why not use onupdate for all bar container? |
| 08:10.28 | mitch0 | how is Ace3 going? Are there any docs up about it already? |
| 08:10.54 | Xinhuan | no docs, but heaps of heated arguments ;p |
| 08:11.30 | orionshock | but that's candy bar, not you addon |
| 08:11.39 | orionshock | candbars count down all on their own |
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| 08:13.22 | abbat_w | hmm.. if i group some bars (not CandyBar, my own) into container (for example container A have 3 bars ) i should use onupdate on every bar? why not all container? |
| 08:13.48 | orionshock | why do it at all, let candy bar do it :D |
| 08:14.43 | abbat_w | Because i need more functionality then CandyBar provide |
| 08:14.54 | orionshock | well .. then |
| 08:14.55 | abbat_w | And it's interesting to make my own ;) |
| 08:15.09 | orionshock | i don't know the context of your needs .. so im not much help |
| 08:16.02 | abbat_w | I try to show 'proof of concept' after some time ;) |
| 08:17.59 | abbat_w | Also while i read PIL i found interesting feature. I can create metatable and put same metatable to another tables. So, my tables inherit fields from one metatable |
| 08:18.18 | abbat_w | Can be usefull, bar inherit some container settings ;) |
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| 08:23.38 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48512 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 08:23.38 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:23.38 | CIA-22 | - Added the AB low level rewards. |
| 08:23.38 | CIA-22 | - Added the 2 AB factions to the faction page (Exalted quest tabard). |
| 08:23.38 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48511 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 08:23.39 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 08:23.41 | CIA-22 | - Added the 2 AB factions to the faction page (Exalted quest tabard). |
| 08:24.13 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48513 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/BattlegroundPvP.en.lua: |
| 08:24.13 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 08:24.13 | CIA-22 | - Added the low level AB rewards, reordered AV and the Misc BG sections. |
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| 08:26.26 | Recluse | is there a way in fubar to disable tooltips out of combat as well? |
| 08:27.38 | mitch0 | xinhuan: where can I read the heated arguments? got logs? :) |
| 08:27.47 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8258.0 |
| 08:27.54 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8285.0 |
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| 08:34.54 | orionshock | rock vs ace3 & Lib Name Conventions ... ya bit heated atm.. |
| 08:35.31 | ckknight | I haven't contributed greatly to those yet |
| 08:35.39 | ckknight | still coming up with the right words |
| 08:35.43 | ckknight | plotting my next move and all |
| 08:36.22 | Xinhuan | whats the point? heh. |
| 08:36.50 | ckknight | yea, part of it is me saying that it's all bullshit and there is no point |
| 08:36.52 | Stan__ | ckknight: hm could you add a feature to fubar to only show the tooltips when holding a key? |
| 08:36.56 | ckknight | that it's all been politicized etc. |
| 08:37.00 | ckknight | Stan__: complex |
| 08:37.15 | nevcairiel | if you make that key a modifier |
| 08:37.17 | nevcairiel | not so complex |
| 08:37.18 | Stan__ | you did it for CowTip, didn't you? |
| 08:37.26 | ckknight | yes |
| 08:37.31 | orionshock | the only policitcs in those threads is the lack of balls to decide something ; till then it's just flame |
| 08:37.38 | ckknight | but I don't feel like doing it right now |
| 08:37.45 | Stan__ | ckknight: mmm k |
| 08:38.05 | ckknight | orionshock: ah, but the question draws down to who makes the decision |
| 08:38.23 | orionshock | the only one logical to ; and he's only said one thing |
| 08:38.41 | Xinhuan | there isn't any decision made for library naming -- because there is no consensus. |
| 08:39.49 | orionshock | consensus aside; the naming convention is a local matter and dosn't depend on a "netral" framework |
| 08:41.00 | orionshock | what is needed is for the owner of the svn to assert himself in the matter; the consensus of the group is nearly irreleavant |
| 08:41.19 | Xinhuan | not exactly |
| 08:41.46 | Xinhuan | kaelten could easily declare that all libraries must start with "kael" as the first 4 letters, and nobody would care or follow it |
| 08:42.04 | nevcairiel | that would be fun |
| 08:42.13 | abbat_w | íóû |
| 08:42.15 | abbat_w | yes ;) |
| 08:42.41 | orionshock | ...well it comes down to 2 things; that will happen or they will continue to do as they please |
| 08:42.51 | orionshock | there are 2 ways; one ugly and one not so ugly |
| 08:42.59 | nevcairiel | the svn will be revamped sometime soon |
| 08:43.02 | orionshock | but a Project Lead needs to be assigned |
| 08:43.08 | nevcairiel | who knows what will happen then |
| 08:44.00 | orionshock | only one thing comes out of a committee - shit. |
| 08:44.21 | rophy | then why are you here? |
| 08:44.44 | orionshock | hoping for something better .... |
| 08:45.25 | nevcairiel | i think people get the wrong idea about that |
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| 08:45.36 | ckknight | not everyone believes in committee |
| 08:45.59 | orionshock | and it's not even that |
| 08:45.59 | ckknight | I mean, consensus can be great |
| 08:46.04 | ckknight | community involvement is great |
| 08:46.13 | ckknight | but sometimes hard decisions need to be made |
| 08:46.26 | rophy | the problem is 'who' should make that hard decision. |
| 08:46.35 | ckknight | even those that do not appease the masses |
| 08:46.37 | orionshock | committee implies there is a leader of some sort or another; there is none in this case |
| 08:46.45 | ckknight | of course it is, rophy |
| 08:46.57 | abbat_w | ckk, are PitBull_AltAura is stable? can end users start using it? |
| 08:47.05 | ckknight | I've been using it |
| 08:47.17 | rophy | everyone has haters and lovers, so I dont think there will be an agreement on who can be 'the one' |
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| 08:47.37 | orionshock | there is really one one that everyone Must respect in that regard; and he has not acted yet... there are a few others that could but they have not either... |
| 08:47.54 | orionshock | it's a painful waiting situation... and alot are watching... |
| 08:47.57 | abbat_w | AltAura have same functionality of original? I miss something if i switch? |
| 08:48.11 | rophy | you mean Kaelten? |
| 08:48.16 | ckknight | not that I could tell on first glance, abbat_w |
| 08:48.26 | rophy | he did make some decisions |
| 08:48.26 | nevcairiel | i really dont get why people act as if they care |
| 08:48.30 | abbat_w | anyway i try to use it |
| 08:48.30 | orionshock | yes rophy |
| 08:48.31 | rophy | which not everyone liked |
| 08:48.38 | nevcairiel | they dont have any idea what actually happens |
| 08:49.01 | rophy | and so I guess he's trying to be very careful when making hard decisions |
| 08:51.24 | orionshock | well if he is not acting because he is trying to figure out how to appease the masses ; then he is foolish |
| 08:51.48 | nevcairiel | "the masses" should go back to using the addons |
| 08:51.54 | ckknight | by trying to appease everyone, you can end up appeasing no one |
| 08:52.02 | orionshock | here here nevcairiel |
| 08:52.33 | Recluse | i use too many cartographer_notes iconpacks. would be nice if installed iconpacks were submenus on the icon selection menu rather than one ginormous single column of em |
| 08:52.43 | orionshock | & tbh, its not a coding thing or a mod thing that we're needing a hard decision on really.. it's more a matter of protocol |
| 08:53.24 | rophy | about what? naming |
| 08:53.25 | rophy | ? |
| 08:53.49 | rophy | 'protocols' between Ace3 core modules is being discussed in jira |
| 08:53.52 | orionshock | the naming convention is not a global issue ; it's not a frame work problem tbh; it's an SVN matter of protocol |
| 08:54.05 | nevcairiel | there are changes coming to the svn infracstructure , as i said earlier |
| 08:54.06 | rophy | afaik SVN is being revamped |
| 08:54.07 | nevcairiel | just wait |
| 08:54.10 | orionshock | now their interaction with in frameworks is a matter for jira |
| 08:54.35 | rophy | so your problem is about the svn revamp being too slow? |
| 08:54.45 | Xinhuan | i fail to see how library naming has to do with SVN protocol |
| 08:54.45 | rophy | I'm not sure what does that have to do with 'lack someone who makes hard decision' |
| 08:54.49 | orionshock | nevcairiel: do u have information i haven |
| 08:54.53 | orionshock | 't seen yet? |
| 08:54.59 | nevcairiel | i would believe so |
| 08:55.14 | nevcairiel | not everything is one the forums, you know :) |
| 08:55.19 | rophy | I think it has been mentioned multiple times that there will be tag-based releases |
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| 08:55.27 | rophy | or something like that |
| 08:55.34 | rophy | or multiple repos |
| 08:55.38 | orionshock | Xinhuan: it's a matter for SVN protocol because, there is no global wow community that you can appeal to to endorse a standard |
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| 08:56.40 | Xinhuan | it isn't a SVN protocol. it is merely a naming convention that wowace would like everyone else that writes addon libs to follow - but they don't have to |
| 08:56.42 | orionshock | nevcairiel: if not fourms then where irc? |
| 08:57.01 | rophy | there hasn't been much discussion about "SVN protocol" so I'm not sure what decisions can be made? |
| 08:57.03 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 08:57.03 | orionshock | right that dosn't accomplish anything tho |
| 08:57.11 | nevcairiel | we have some not-so-public channels too |
| 08:57.21 | rophy | so what's you definition of the "SVN protocol"? an example? |
| 08:57.49 | orionshock | SVN protocol is simply the rule set that you follow when doing anything on the SVN, IE the SVN Rules wiki |
| 08:57.54 | orionshock | it's rather incomplete |
| 08:58.23 | nevcairiel | there will probably a revised set of those rules when the "new" svn opens. |
| 08:58.24 | ckknight | not-so-public channels for a seemingly open framework seems like a bit of a contradiction, if you ask me |
| 08:58.27 | orionshock | missing alot of things that are either accepted as common method or long standing tradition |
| 08:58.55 | Xinhuan | you can come up with as many rules about library namings as you want, but i don't necessarily have to follow them, even if it is a good idea to |
| 08:58.59 | nevcairiel | ckknight: you noticed the spam around here right? its just a place where you can talk in peace. and rant without getting life threats :P |
| 08:59.04 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: I agree |
| 08:59.15 | orionshock | right and if u don't follow those rules then your commit gets deleted |
| 08:59.28 | Xinhuan | aha but the library doesn't have to be hosted on the svn |
| 08:59.29 | orionshock | cause & Effect - simple matter of management |
| 08:59.34 | ckknight | nevcairiel: life threats? |
| 08:59.35 | Xinhuan | there's multiple websites that hosts addons |
| 08:59.42 | orionshock | right and that again is your choice |
| 08:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 08:59.50 | rophy | and what was the problem for the current SVN? lack of tag-based releases? |
| 09:00.11 | sag_ich_nicht | why can't you just force naming conventions for addons hosted on the SVN and be done with it? |
| 09:00.14 | rophy | what does the protocol tries to solve? |
| 09:00.34 | Nickenyfiken | If tags -> zips instead of trunk -> zips there would be a lot more tags :-P |
| 09:00.37 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 09:00.40 | sag_ich_nicht | hi rophy |
| 09:00.47 | orionshock | for any given thing there is a set of rules - you either follow then or go somewhere else. it's a rather common idea and as "Big" as it sounds it applies here |
| 09:00.50 | rophy | sup |
| 09:00.52 | rophy | ? |
| 09:00.55 | orionshock | the problem is that the SVN rules are incomplete |
| 09:00.55 | nevcairiel | ckknight: alot of discussions in here end up being a flame war, because some fanbois think they are smart. you are in one of those not-so-public channels yourself, if you didnt notice yet :P |
| 09:00.56 | sag_ich_nicht | one of your addons is doing something stupid, but i forgot which one |
| 09:01.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 09:01.10 | sag_ich_nicht | right |
| 09:01.25 | rophy | orionshock: I know the rules aren't complete, but so did any problem happens? I'm trying to understand your main concern. |
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| 09:01.45 | sag_ich_nicht | rophy SpeedFu is being dumb(and by that i mean stop using Metrognome, and maybe use embeds.xml :P) |
| 09:01.49 | ckknight | nevcairiel: yea, but what we're talking about right now wasn't mentioned in #wowace-dev |
| 09:02.09 | nevcairiel | ckknight: i am pretty sure it was, if we're still talking SVN |
| 09:02.14 | Nickenyfiken | nevcairiel: Well, flame war or not. It's a community and everyone should have a chance to have their opinion in things involving their "work" |
| 09:02.23 | rophy | sag_ich_nicht: it's working fine to me, which part didnt work? |
| 09:02.26 | ckknight | nevcairiel: some of it, at least |
| 09:02.35 | sag_ich_nicht | the part where WAU doesn't pull dependencies right. |
| 09:03.24 | orionshock | my main point is that there is a lack of cohesion between who we turn to for "management" and the people that appear as one but can only offer their opinion on the matter and can in fact do nothing. |
| 09:03.24 | rophy | sag_ich_nicht: if WAU breaks when a mod doesn't follow its rule, then WAU needs to be fixed. |
| 09:03.24 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 09:03.29 | rophy | I use WUU and I suggests it |
| 09:03.39 | orionshock | rophy: no it's the other way arround |
| 09:03.49 | rophy | "I" suggests it |
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| 09:04.13 | rophy | orionshock: the other way around that "WAU is the rule" ? |
| 09:04.22 | rophy | it isn't afaik |
| 09:04.26 | nevcairiel | Nickenyfiken: sure, express your opinion on the forums, but everyone needs a place to talk things through, without getting unproductive criticism, or even flames, while still exploring possibilities. everyone can post on jira, afaik |
| 09:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 09:04.57 | sag_ich_nicht | rophy |
| 09:04.58 | ckknight | and some people will get shot down on jira for personal vendettas |
| 09:05.03 | rophy | but you're welcome to change SpeedFu to use embeds.xml, that doesn't matter to me, sag_ich_nicht. |
| 09:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 09:05.15 | sag_ich_nicht | too lazy and no SVN access |
| 09:05.15 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 09:05.17 | nevcairiel | only because we are a community, we dont have to discuss every thing in public, do we? |
| 09:05.18 | rophy | I didn't change it because I don't use WAU. |
| 09:05.23 | rophy | so the problem is about you, not me :p |
| 09:05.33 | Nickenyfiken | nevcairiel: Yeah, what i meant is that if things are discussed behind the scenes that you are not aware of you can't have your opinion. |
| 09:05.39 | sag_ich_nicht | okay then let me rephrase my statement |
| 09:05.46 | sag_ich_nicht | so it sounds like i want something completely else |
| 09:06.00 | rophy | you want to make SpeedFu works for WAU |
| 09:06.05 | ckknight | I don't like the future being decided in the shadows |
| 09:06.21 | rophy | so... I say it's ok to use embeds.xml, I'm just lazy to do it myself, because I don't use WAU. |
| 09:06.34 | nevcairiel | Nickenyfiken: now if three devs discuss their options, or one dev just implements it. whats the difference? |
| 09:07.03 | sag_ich_nicht | rophy, may i make the suggestion to convert SpeedFu to embeds.xml and to replace Metrognome because it's deprecated since Embeds.xml would decrease addon loading time when using standalone libs and relying on a deprecated lib isn't very good? :) |
| 09:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | (I > spin) |
| 09:07.35 | orionshock | ... nevcairiel the problem here is that there are 2 things here; the Development side, and the community side... and i see alot of people confusing the two |
| 09:07.49 | rophy | sag_ich_nicht: which part of Metrognome makes it deprecated? |
| 09:07.51 | orionshock | and neither side has a "Leader" of any sort what so ever that has come forth |
| 09:08.37 | orionshock | commits on ace3 are laughable at best |
| 09:08.51 | rophy | sag_ich_nicht: it has bugs, it is inefficient or what? |
| 09:08.59 | Nickenyfiken | I don't know. |
| 09:09.08 | Pheredhel | rophy: I don't use wau either (doesn'T seem to work on my mac) but I still use embeds.xmp as it speeds up things for wau users and there is no disadvantage for anybody else |
| 09:09.23 | rophy | yeah, I said it's ok to use embeds.xml |
| 09:09.33 | rophy | I have no problem with it. |
| 09:09.40 | sag_ich_nicht | rophy: the part where the author abandoned it and it has since been replaced(can't remember with what) |
| 09:10.05 | sag_ich_nicht | iirc |
| 09:10.19 | rophy | sag_ich_nicht: i didn't see anything replacing it, only AceEvent-2.0 added its functionality, which is too huge if I dun use all other parts of it. |
| 09:11.08 | rophy | Is SpeedFu the remaining one which uses Metrognome? |
| 09:11.13 | rophy | if so I guess I'll just remove the dependency... |
| 09:11.21 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, i don't think there is anything else using it anymore |
| 09:11.27 | Xinhuan | rophy: you listed Ace2 as an optional dependency - so it all gets loaded anyway ;p |
| 09:11.34 | Xinhuan | if the user has it installed seperately |
| 09:11.36 | sag_ich_nicht | also what Xinhuan said |
| 09:11.48 | Xinhuan | and yes, i do use speedfu :) |
| 09:12.04 | rophy | Xinhuan: only because SpeedFu uses AceAddon-2.0 |
| 09:12.07 | sag_ich_nicht | so do i, else i couldn't fly in a straight line |
| 09:12.19 | sag_ich_nicht | rophy: still loads all of it tho ;) |
| 09:12.31 | rophy | and that's bad imo. |
| 09:12.43 | rophy | "use all the libraries, because they get loaded anyway" is a bad design itself. |
| 09:13.02 | Xinhuan | i dont' think that's relevant rophy - because your listed Fubar as a required dependancy |
| 09:13.11 | Xinhuan | and fubar uses the entire Ace2 |
| 09:13.32 | sag_ich_nicht | also i don't know if anyone reviews the errorlogs, but there currently are 3 errors logged in http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt |
| 09:13.36 | rophy | Xinhuan: SpeedFu worked without FuBar, I was just lazy to remove the dependency. |
| 09:13.42 | Xinhuan | lol ok |
| 09:13.51 | rophy | anyway, if really no other mods use Metrognome anymore |
| 09:13.58 | rophy | I'll just remove the dependency without adding AceEvent-2.0. |
| 09:14.02 | rophy | makes everyone happy |
| 09:14.08 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 09:14.15 | sag_ich_nicht | well, i have 400 addons |
| 09:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 09:14.24 | sag_ich_nicht | 410 |
| 09:14.32 | Stan__ | wtf |
| 09:14.34 | sag_ich_nicht | speedfu is the only addon using metrognome. |
| 09:14.35 | Jaxon | Christ, mplayer for OSX uses a ton of CPU. |
| 09:14.40 | sag_ich_nicht | hi Stan__ |
| 09:14.48 | Stan__ | hi sag_ich_nicht :p |
| 09:14.58 | rophy | I'll change to use AceTimer-3.0 when Ace3 is out. |
| 09:15.04 | rophy | for now, I'll just remove the dependency. |
| 09:15.20 | sag_ich_nicht | in before ckknight tries to convince you to use rock and not Ace3 |
| 09:15.36 | baer_ | ^^ |
| 09:15.36 | Stan__ | sag_ich_nicht: 400 with libs or without? |
| 09:15.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Stan__ wtih |
| 09:15.43 | sag_ich_nicht | *with |
| 09:15.46 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: ping |
| 09:15.47 | Stan__ | ah mkay |
| 09:15.47 | baer_ | btw, how mature is Rock atm? |
| 09:15.58 | ckknight | baer_: it's pretty feature-complete |
| 09:16.08 | ckknight | except for a few config-based things |
| 09:16.10 | Xinhuan | oh rophy: please update to embeds.xml, it'll benfit many WAU users :) |
| 09:16.17 | rophy | sure |
| 09:16.18 | baer_ | ckknight: i'm pretty curious... |
| 09:16.30 | rophy | I'll do whatever I can do shut you up |
| 09:16.31 | rophy | :p |
| 09:16.32 | baer_ | ...how you baby looks like :) |
| 09:16.38 | ckknight | oh |
| 09:16.47 | ckknight | feel free to get the branch versions of CowTip and Parrot |
| 09:16.51 | ckknight | you can test out Rock today |
| 09:17.16 | baer_ | prat/cowtip is already rock-based? oO |
| 09:17.25 | ckknight | Parrot, not Prat |
| 09:17.28 | ckknight | and the API is all fully documented |
| 09:17.35 | ckknight | and the differences between it and Ace2 |
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| 09:17.38 | baer_ | ah, ok. |
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| 09:17.59 | orionshock | i use both; and i disembeded them recently ... seeing little to no impact in performance |
| 09:18.06 | ckknight | what I'm working on currently is making it easier for Ace2 developers to upgrade to Rock |
| 09:18.07 | baer_ | i already use cowtip, but i did not mention any rock-dependancies. |
| 09:18.16 | ckknight | today, I added in support to Rock to use Ace2-based mixins |
| 09:18.26 | ckknight | baer_: you need to get the one from branches, not trunk |
| 09:18.31 | baer_ | i c. |
| 09:18.41 | orionshock | IE an svn client... or... |
| 09:18.45 | orionshock | give me a min |
| 09:19.12 | ckknight | my eventual goal is to be able to have an Ace2 compatibility layer for Rock, so that the calculation can happen in Rock but the API is the same as Ace2's |
| 09:19.39 | ckknight | so if someone doesn't buy the argument that "2 frameworks are just as fast", they can upgrade to Rock without changing any addons themselves |
| 09:20.01 | orionshock | http://trac.wowace.com/changeset/48513/branches/CowTip/Rock?old_path=%2F&format=zip |
| 09:20.13 | baer_ | ok, sounds nice. |
| 09:20.32 | ckknight | been working on it |
| 09:20.34 | ckknight | it's hard |
| 09:20.35 | orionshock | http://trac.wowace.com/changeset/48513/branches/Parrot/Rock?old_path=%2F&format=zip |
| 09:20.37 | ckknight | so we'll see if it pans out |
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| 09:25.25 | Pheredhel | uhm, ok, what/where is 'Rock' just read it for the first time (seems to be a library similar to Ace) |
| 09:25.29 | mitch0 | ckk: if you can create this compatibility layer, it either 1) won't be any better than using Ace2 (keeping bug-compatible) or 2) not work (or 3) breaking interfaces was pointless in the first place :) |
| 09:25.47 | ckknight | (1) |
| 09:26.04 | ckknight | though not always |
| 09:26.11 | ckknight | some algorithms are improved with Rock |
| 09:26.46 | mitch0 | ckk: so, basically, "really" ported addons would be better, and "bolted on" addons would be like using Ace2 with a bit of overhead? (and some improvements under the hood)? |
| 09:26.51 | orionshock | Rock is currently in the main trunk - avaiable to download off of the files site or WAU |
| 09:27.01 | ckknight | mitch0: yea, essentially |
| 09:27.07 | orionshock | -currently there are no addons in common distribution that use it |
| 09:27.27 | ckknight | mitch0: and porting is pretty easy now, all in all |
| 09:27.35 | ckknight | as long as you don't do anything crazy |
| 09:28.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight when are you going to push the parrot & cowtip rock branches? |
| 09:28.27 | ckknight | after I port all my other addons |
| 09:28.41 | sag_ich_nicht | so, never? |
| 09:28.44 | ckknight | I've delayed for political reasons |
| 09:28.53 | ckknight | not because of apathy |
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| 09:29.04 | sag_ich_nicht | I'll delay your ass, becauseo f political reasons. |
| 09:29.07 | Grum | seems like that bomb exploded a bit ago ckknight ;) |
| 09:29.17 | sag_ich_nicht | s/becauseo f/because of/ |
| 09:30.25 | orionshock | im waiting for pit bull to be converted over... |
| 09:30.32 | orionshock | then we'll really see what's better :P |
| 09:30.33 | ckknight | that might be the next one |
| 09:30.36 | Xinhuan | [9/10 17:27:03] <@ckknight> I've delayed for political reasons <-- why? |
| 09:30.37 | ckknight | probably will be |
| 09:30.54 | ckknight | Xinhuan: because of the whole Rock vs. Ace3 debacle |
| 09:31.04 | ckknight | Xinhuan: wondering if I should join, etc. |
| 09:31.13 | ckknight | I've been gathering my thoughts in a coherent manner |
| 09:31.16 | ckknight | I'll post them soon |
| 09:31.35 | Xinhuan | so you are considering joining ace3 team and dumping rock? |
| 09:31.46 | ckknight | I did consider that |
| 09:31.52 | ckknight | but I'm gathering my thoughts |
| 09:32.00 | ckknight | you'll see when I post em |
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| 09:33.06 | orionshock | ck.. can i just change the mix in name on dog tag 1.0 to 2.0 and still have it work? ... :D |
| 09:33.19 | ckknight | yea, I didn't change the API |
| 09:33.24 | ckknight | and actually, it's not a mixin |
| 09:33.33 | ckknight | which is why 2.0 is framework-agnostic, not Rock-based |
| 09:34.03 | orionshock | well the thing is all libs have to be invoked one way or another |
| 09:34.23 | ckknight | though there are some features I could've used in Rock that I decided not to, because it was requested to be framework agnostic |
| 09:34.26 | orionshock | either though mix in or deceleration... |
| 09:34.39 | ckknight | deceleration ≠declaration |
| 09:34.52 | orionshock | lol - spell check FTL |
| 09:35.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:31] * orionshock yells " THE DAY OF RECKONING WILL SOON BE AT HAND" <--uh, kazzak was already onehittet, you're lagging behind buddy. |
| 09:35.41 | orionshock | lol - and i think they banned him for it too |
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| 09:37.22 | CIA-22 | 03jayhawk * r48515 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/ (4 files): |
| 09:37.22 | CIA-22 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 09:37.23 | CIA-22 | - added option to show loyalty for stabled pets |
| 09:39.07 | mitch0 | ckk: "though there are some features I could've used in Rock that I decided not to, because it was requested to be framework agnostic" <- that way lies madnes... |
| 09:39.22 | ckknight | yea... |
| 09:39.44 | mitch0 | I don't understand all these "really-standalone-lib" arguments |
| 09:39.45 | ckknight | there are good reasons to have a library use a framework |
| 09:39.50 | orionshock | did they come up with a sane way to use agnostic libs as mixins? |
| 09:39.53 | mitch0 | lot of duplicated effort |
| 09:40.05 | mitch0 | bugs fixed in some parts, forgot in others |
| 09:40.07 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: Don't do Ace2 compat. Write a "How to port your addon to rock" guide instead |
| 09:40.08 | mitch0 | teh horrorz... |
| 09:40.12 | ckknight | others would have you believe that you should sacrifice those reasons for the sake of "community" |
| 09:40.32 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: hrm, good idea... |
| 09:40.33 | mitch0 | ckk: good luck convincing me... |
| 09:40.46 | ckknight | and I truly, truly hate doing things for the sake of community |
| 09:40.55 | Stan__ | ckknight: hm so you could replace DogTag 1 with DogTag 2 on the trunk and all addons continue to work properly? |
| 09:41.03 | ckknight | goes against my objectivist viewpoint |
| 09:41.10 | ckknight | yep, Stan__ |
| 09:41.31 | Stan__ | ckknight: and what prevents you from doing it? |
| 09:41.55 | ckknight | well, PitBull's really the only other mod, and I'm waiting to port it to Rock |
| 09:42.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight YOU FORGOT FUBAR |
| 09:42.31 | ckknight | no I didn't. |
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| 09:42.38 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 09:42.47 | ckknight | why do you say I forgot it? |
| 09:42.47 | Stan__ | ckknight: do it :p |
| 09:42.51 | Stan__ | port pitbull |
| 09:42.53 | Stan__ | do it :p |
| 09:43.15 | ckknight | I want to figure out the political shit first |
| 09:43.33 | Stan__ | :( |
| 09:44.39 | mitch0 | the best option would be to reunite the frameworks, but that probly won't happen due to ego issues... |
| 09:45.10 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 09:45.19 | ckknight | yea, that's the general issue |
| 09:45.22 | ckknight | as well as management style |
| 09:45.29 | mitch0 | we're approaching ./configure; make ; make install... |
| 09:45.31 | ckknight | and I fear that my ideas will be squelched |
| 09:45.57 | mitch0 | what ideas? |
| 09:45.58 | ckknight | so rather than face mediocrity through committee, I'll forge my own path |
| 09:46.07 | orionshock | you will get a long ugly post if it comes down to ./configure; make; make install |
| 09:46.21 | orionshock | ive done that shit - it's not funny |
| 09:46.26 | ckknight | yea, it's ./configure; make; sudo make install |
| 09:46.27 | ckknight | gah |
| 09:46.51 | sag_ich_nicht | nooooo |
| 09:46.59 | mitch0 | orion: it won't come to that as its not an option really for lua and addon install lin general, but given the way these frameworks are headed, that would be the "best" solution... |
| 09:47.11 | ckknight | mitch0: assorted ideas I have, some issues have already been decided, apparently, without any consensus, which goes against what the whole thing stands for anyway |
| 09:47.18 | ckknight | so I don't want to deal with the double-standards |
| 09:47.58 | mitch0 | oh well, it's still sad |
| 09:48.06 | mitch0 | can't do much about it |
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| 09:48.44 | ckknight | I don't want to just bend over and "take it like a man" |
| 09:48.45 | mitch0 | compared to the present situation, Ace2 was (is) heaven |
| 09:48.48 | ckknight | I'm a top, not a bottom |
| 09:48.49 | Stan__ | you can't force people to work together.. |
| 09:49.27 | Tornhoof | what's bad about ./configure, make install? |
| 09:49.40 | ckknight | mitch0: which is funny, because Ace2's creation is wrought with egos and politicking as well. |
| 09:49.44 | orionshock | ~lart Tornhoof |
| 09:49.44 | purl | slaps Tornhoof upside the head with a wet fish |
| 09:50.18 | Tornhoof | most people probably use wau anyway or similar prog, so there is no problem there imhho |
| 09:50.22 | Nickenyfiken | Anyway I don't really get it. Looks to me "they" want Ace3 to be just like Dongle. Why not use Dongle or rename it to Ace3. But maybe I'm missing something... |
| 09:50.53 | ckknight | the "Ace" brand is worth something |
| 09:50.54 | orionshock | your missing the thread about clad and dongle |
| 09:50.57 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r48516 10FuBar_SpeedFu/ (FuBar_SpeedFu.toc Libs/ SpeedFu.lua embeds.xml): |
| 09:50.57 | CIA-22 | FuBar_SpeedFu: |
| 09:50.57 | CIA-22 | - use embeds.xml |
| 09:50.57 | CIA-22 | - remove Metrognome-2.0 and AceEvent-2.0. |
| 09:50.57 | CIA-22 | - TOC 20100. |
| 09:51.02 | ckknight | but who really owns that? |
| 09:51.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ~cookie rophy |
| 09:51.10 | ckknight | that itself is complex |
| 09:51.15 | Nickenyfiken | Just what i thought, the brand. |
| 09:51.24 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 09:51.27 | Nickenyfiken | orionshock: what thread? |
| 09:51.30 | sag_ich_nicht | purl, give rophy a cookie |
| 09:51.30 | purl | ACTION gives rophy a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up. |
| 09:51.39 | ckknight | so tell me, who owns the Ace brand? |
| 09:51.44 | rophy | try it first |
| 09:51.45 | Cartas | Haste. |
| 09:51.47 | orionshock | um.. Click2Cast |
| 09:51.58 | Nickenyfiken | Try and register it :-P |
| 09:52.39 | ckknight | but, I mean, in the contexts that we are in |
| 09:52.43 | ckknight | who owns it? |
| 09:52.45 | sag_ich_nicht | rophy i can't, i'm at work :O |
| 09:53.05 | Cartas | Haste wasn't the right answer then, CKKnight? :( |
| 09:53.11 | Stan__ | ckknight: doesn't Kaelten "own" Ace? |
| 09:53.22 | ckknight | Stan__: now that's arguable |
| 09:53.25 | ckknight | it's all arguable |
| 09:53.26 | Nickenyfiken | Owns wowace.com |
| 09:53.27 | ckknight | that's the problem |
| 09:53.43 | Cartas | Does it matter who owns it? |
| 09:53.47 | orionshock | in a defacto sense he does, if only as project lead... and ya still arguable |
| 09:54.00 | ckknight | yes, because who owns it controls who owns Ace3 |
| 09:54.02 | ckknight | Turan and his buddies wrote Ace1 |
| 09:54.27 | Cartas | Hm, don't you all work together to make the next updated Ace? :o |
| 09:54.29 | ckknight | I wrote the vast majority of Ace2, with a few others working on it as well |
| 09:54.38 | ckknight | Cartas: no, for the reasons stated above |
| 09:54.47 | Cartas | You should do... |
| 09:55.00 | ckknight | Cartas: scroll up before saying any more |
| 09:55.17 | Grum | that would be wise - just read it all .. meh .. stop spamming and make babies |
| 09:55.31 | Grum | gnome babies do really well on the AH nowadays |
| 09:55.37 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 09:56.39 | Tornhoof | actually I don't understand the problem, those developers who want to use a faster more optimized and maybe cleaner layout can use rock, those who are used to the old ways can still use ace2 or whatever ace3 might become |
| 09:56.46 | Nickenyfiken | "Library Naming Schemes"... yeah right |
| 09:56.50 | baer_ | oh damn, i missed the whole ace3 vs. rock discussion :-} |
| 09:57.07 | baer_ | why are you guys doing this, when i'm in the shower? :-p |
| 09:57.31 | ckknight | this isn't really an Ace3 vs. Rock discussion |
| 09:57.38 | baer_ | oh, come on. |
| 09:57.51 | Grum | being in a team coding only *really* works with lots and lots of talking or planning or if everyone codes at exactly the same speed the exact same amount of time |
| 09:57.55 | baer_ | everyone wants pb ported to rock :-} |
| 09:58.04 | Grum | especially if everyone wants to piss in the bucket O.o |
| 09:58.06 | ckknight | which I will do |
| 09:58.19 | orionshock | Grum: coding in a team only works when you have a leader that directs the flow |
| 09:58.43 | Grum | problem is that the leader has to be 'accepted' and not neglecting otherones input |
| 09:58.56 | orionshock | .. directs ... not controls |
| 09:59.01 | ckknight | power is given to those who can wield it |
| 09:59.04 | orionshock | direct =/= control |
| 09:59.10 | Xinhuan | i think its also general opinion that Pitbull is "bloated"? :) |
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| 09:59.21 | ckknight | a viable assessment |
| 09:59.23 | Tornhoof | ckknight, if I understood rock correct, there won't be any OO support right? |
| 09:59.35 | ckknight | Tornhoof: no, I should do a wiki thing "How to live without OO" |
| 09:59.40 | ckknight | Tornhoof: it's really not needed in most situations |
| 09:59.45 | Tornhoof | i know |
| 10:00.15 | ckknight | Xinhuan: it's bloated because if you want to use every single feature, you have a lot of features, some you might not need. If you want to use only a few features, that's your prerogative. |
| 10:00.34 | Nickenyfiken | Haha i remember when i wrote my first addon and first bit of lua code i made a "class" with AceOO. First and last time. |
| 10:00.44 | Diao | hm strange |
| 10:00.48 | baer_ | ^^ |
| 10:00.50 | Diao | some addon is interfering with my lfg tooltips |
| 10:01.01 | Xinhuan | ckknight: that's just a opinion that i've heard others say, i don't have an opinion of pitbull myself because i've never tried it before :) |
| 10:01.08 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 10:01.11 | ckknight | do what you feel like |
| 10:01.18 | baer_ | well, Nickenyfiken, i hate to say it, but i <3 OO. |
| 10:01.34 | mitch0 | OO != AceOO :) |
| 10:01.44 | ckknight | baer_: you don't need it in lua, you can do OO-like things with prototyping |
| 10:02.05 | baer_ | ckknight: that's right. |
| 10:02.20 | Nickenyfiken | baer_: me to, I have almost exclusively coded in C++, Java and .NET. But not in lua and WoW addons. |
| 10:02.41 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:58] <@ckknight> power is given to those who can wield it <--wrong, power is TAKEN by those willing to DO SO. |
| 10:02.41 | ckknight | I've done work in all those as well |
| 10:02.53 | baer_ | well, i'm too old for this, i fear... |
| 10:02.54 | Corgan | pitbull is bloated? |
| 10:02.55 | Corgan | since when |
| 10:03.03 | pb_ee1 | Pitbull is absolutely horrible. Everybody knows that auras need some work, but everybody uses it because... well... there's nothing as good as pitbull atm ( now give me my money ckknight !) |
| 10:03.07 | baer_ | primary cpp, some java and mainly C. |
| 10:03.08 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: power can be created out of nothing, though, which invalidates your argument |
| 10:03.14 | sag_ich_nicht | rong |
| 10:03.22 | sag_ich_nicht | 2. law of thermodynamics! |
| 10:03.23 | Cartas | pb_ee1: oUF forever! |
| 10:03.24 | ckknight | pb_ee1: hey, I've assigned Auras to Jerry |
| 10:03.25 | Arrowmaster | to me it sounds like an issue of how AceOO is used, currently its a requirement for some other core Ace2 libs but it would probably to a totally different story about bloat if AceOO was completely independent of the rest of Ace2 core and only used when the developer actually needed it |
| 10:03.27 | Corgan | I wuv pitbull @_@ |
| 10:03.35 | pb_ee1 | I know, seems it's getting better ;) |
| 10:03.43 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: quite true. |
| 10:03.50 | ckknight | pb_ee1: try out PitBull_AltAuras. |
| 10:04.33 | pb_ee1 | Cartas: I used to use it, but since i'm using Pitbull, all other unit frames seems to have something missing. I tried archud a few days ago, and others before. Nope. Pitbull still is the best for me (i said: for me :p) |
| 10:04.35 | ckknight | and despite the freaky name of PitBull (how it has nothing to do with units or frames or what have you), people still use it and appreciate it |
| 10:04.42 | pb_ee1 | thanks, ckknight, installing it right away |
| 10:04.49 | ckknight | pb_ee1: disable PitBull_Auras when you do |
| 10:04.54 | pb_ee1 | sure ;) |
| 10:04.55 | Arrowmaster | ckk wants to make a framework thats lighter with a few less features it sounds like from the direction rock is going, although i would argue that a framework with more optional libs would be better |
| 10:05.05 | Tornhoof | dunno, i just like having the possibility to define interfaces and enforce the existance of certain functions ;) |
| 10:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | X-Perl > pitbull, for looks only. |
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| 10:05.11 | Corgan | I dunno, I like pitbull |
| 10:05.14 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: oh, I have no problem with an OO lib, don't get me wrong |
| 10:05.18 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: it's just not in the core |
| 10:05.22 | Cartas | PitBull looks good enough, if configured correctly. |
| 10:05.24 | Corgan | and cowtip, and parrot |
| 10:05.27 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: and since I don't need it, I don't feel like writing it |
| 10:06.04 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm what addons use AceOO? Except in the Ace2 core |
| 10:06.12 | ckknight | agUF |
| 10:06.13 | Arrowmaster | i should probably read the forums, ive missed most of the stuff about this |
| 10:06.14 | orionshock | ace event iirc |
| 10:06.20 | ckknight | orionshock: addons, not libraries |
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| 10:06.24 | Nickenyfiken | Bartender? |
| 10:06.25 | orionshock | ah |
| 10:06.26 | Arrowmaster | dkpmon/bidder use aceoo |
| 10:06.31 | Xinhuan | does fubar use it? |
| 10:06.34 | Tornhoof | my yata too |
| 10:06.40 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no |
| 10:06.50 | ckknight | in many cases, simple prototyping works better and is more efficient |
| 10:07.12 | Xinhuan | probably going to agree with that |
| 10:07.18 | Tornhoof | yeh i guess you should write the afore mentioned wiki entry, how to live without OO ;) |
| 10:07.32 | Cartas | AltAura doesn't show the buffs/debuffs on the player frame? |
| 10:07.39 | Corgan | Cartas, I don't have a screenshot of CowTip in action :\ |
| 10:07.44 | ckknight | yes it does |
| 10:07.58 | Pheredhel | hmm, btw: ckknight as it's yours: what are the advantages of Rock over Ace2 ? (or if none, what are the differences) |
| 10:08.00 | Cartas | Hm, why isn't it doing for me? :( Everything shows as enabled... |
| 10:08.08 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 10:08.08 | purl | somebody said rock was an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. |
| 10:08.15 | ckknight | Pheredhel: see the wiki page for details |
| 10:08.21 | ckknight | there's a lot of things better |
| 10:08.33 | ckknight | Rock is really Ace2 done right |
| 10:08.38 | ckknight | others don't like that idea |
| 10:08.42 | ckknight | but frankly, I think it's a good goal |
| 10:08.52 | ckknight | I'm a pragmatist |
| 10:08.53 | ckknight | not an idealist |
| 10:09.00 | ckknight | I'll do what is most practical |
| 10:09.01 | Pheredhel | ok |
| 10:09.21 | ckknight | instead of shooting for some pie-in-the-sky utopia which has no hope for fruition |
| 10:09.35 | pb_ee1 | <spam> ckknight has spamed a total of: 8 lines in a row </spam> |
| 10:09.39 | pb_ee1 | (lol) |
| 10:09.54 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:09.58 | Diao | does anyone use tattle_LFM |
| 10:13.41 | ckknight | so I do not promise that Rock is perfect, I know this is impossible |
| 10:13.49 | ckknight | I'm not trying to future-proof it, but I'm doing what I can |
| 10:13.56 | ckknight | I expect there to be future versions |
| 10:14.08 | ckknight | which may break compatibility, requiring 1.1 versions or 2.0 versions |
| 10:14.22 | mitch0 | ckk: actually, making the recicling stuff as a standalon lib doesn't seem like such a bad idea (just reading one of those flame threads, and it came up in one of the posts) |
| 10:14.26 | ckknight | either way, the way I choose will be the least painful possible. |
| 10:14.45 | ckknight | mitch0: the issue with that is that every single library would require it |
| 10:14.52 | mitch0 | so? |
| 10:14.54 | ckknight | mitch0: every single Rock library has required it thus far |
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| 10:15.11 | ckknight | so basically: why not include it in LibRock-1.0? |
| 10:15.17 | ckknight | I'm just being pragmatic |
| 10:15.29 | mitch0 | ckk: but if it were a standalone lib, the others could use it too (ace3, dongle) |
| 10:15.37 | ckknight | true |
| 10:15.49 | mitch0 | and it's not too painful to just "import" it via libstub |
| 10:16.12 | ckknight | or I could make my stuff work great and if someone else were to turn it standalone, I'd consider using it |
| 10:16.35 | pb_ee1 | question: who? |
| 10:16.37 | ckknight | I refuse to do extra work which will not help my position |
| 10:16.58 | mitch0 | ckk: I didn't say you should make it standalone right away, was just "feeling around" whether you'd "allow" it :) |
| 10:17.03 | pb_ee1 | you're in the best place to do so ;) |
| 10:17.24 | mitch0 | ckk: depends on what you consider being part of "your position" |
| 10:17.26 | ckknight | I wouldn't have a big issue with it being standalone, but I see good reasons for it not to be |
| 10:17.40 | ckknight | mostly ease of use and minimization of dependency |
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| 10:17.52 | ckknight | e.g. every single Ace2 library (practically) relies on AceOO |
| 10:18.04 | mitch0 | ckk: although it seems you dug yourself deep enough with some of the ppl around here, so probly no amount of work/attitude change would help you there :) |
| 10:18.12 | ckknight | some which only use a small part of it |
| 10:18.33 | mitch0 | ckk: so you ripped out AceOO :) |
| 10:18.43 | ckknight | mitch0: deep good, deep bad, which people? |
| 10:19.04 | mitch0 | ckk: is that some zen stuff? :) |
| 10:19.13 | Arrowmaster | i think ckk should just stick with working on rock as something for his mods that he uses since he doesnt want to wait forever to use a framework hes helping to write, but should still help work on ace3 (and others accept his input) for the purpose of making a better framework |
| 10:19.17 | ckknight | no, mostly questions to your statement |
| 10:19.27 | Arrowmaster | but not everything can be perfect |
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| 10:19.42 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, only main issue with me helping with Ace3 is that my ideas have been and will continue to be squashed |
| 10:19.45 | mitch0 | ckk: just reading some ppl vent about you on that flamethread. you don't have much chance making up with them. that's all I tried to refer to |
| 10:19.52 | ckknight | which makes it pointless as far as I'm concerned |
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| 10:20.02 | Arrowmaster | which thread is the flame thread? |
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| 10:20.05 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
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| 10:20.13 | pb_ee1 | that would be weird Arrowmaster, it is actually the point of ckknight to write Rock because his help on Ace3 is not really in the way he wants :P |
| 10:20.33 | mitch0 | arro: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8285.80 (at least parts of it...) |
| 10:21.19 | mitch0 | but at least I think I'm starting to get what the "framework agnostic" guys want |
| 10:21.35 | mitch0 | and I may even be agreeing with them |
| 10:21.43 | Arrowmaster | i remember the days when people in here where testing code with lua binaries and loops running for many hours just to see which way was better |
| 10:21.47 | Arrowmaster | not much of that happening anymore |
| 10:22.15 | mitch0 | actually, we should get rid of ALL frameworks! |
| 10:22.35 | Arrowmaster | fuck that i use ace2 because im a lazy bastard |
| 10:22.39 | ckknight | my point to the agnostic guys is that there are good reasons to use a framework to build libraries on, for extra features that are needed. The agnostic guys want to just abandon those features or roll your own haphazard versions for the sake of "community as a whole" |
| 10:22.41 | mitch0 | LibStub and MixinStub should be the only ones, both kinda minimal |
| 10:22.46 | mitch0 | the rest should be just libs |
| 10:22.55 | mitch0 | or mixins (or both) |
| 10:23.15 | mitch0 | what got me confused is that I thought they wanted to duplicate all stuff in every "standalone" lib |
| 10:23.18 | mitch0 | but that's not needed |
| 10:23.58 | mitch0 | those features could be put in a lib, imported via LibStub |
| 10:24.23 | ckknight | they want to have no inter-library dependencies |
| 10:24.27 | Arrowmaster | one of the things i like about ace2 is how most stuff is uniform because of aceconsole, and custom events from aceevent |
| 10:24.29 | ckknight | as far as I've been told |
| 10:24.32 | mitch0 | ckk: that's stupid though |
| 10:24.37 | orionshock | correct me if im wrong: but the agnostic ones want libs that don't need frameworks to be completely independant; but are willing to accept some being built on a framework if it would be better than implementing the same with in it'self? |
| 10:24.37 | ckknight | I agree! |
| 10:25.03 | mitch0 | well, that has to be clarified |
| 10:25.06 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, and I up the ante with Rock in some ways |
| 10:25.30 | ckknight | orionshock: I don't know anymore, it's schizophrenic politicking |
| 10:25.32 | mitch0 | I'm with the "agnostic" guys as long as framesworks go, but I'm not willing to accept code duplication (instead of using libs via LibStub) |
| 10:26.24 | mitch0 | but my approach leads to basically LibStub and MixinStub and then we're back to using the stuff we used to use as part of a framework but now using that same function via a lib |
| 10:26.40 | orionshock | with out a project lead it's what you have ... and honestly they are smart enough to come up with ace3 but not enough to elect a project lead... |
| 10:27.17 | Nickenyfiken | Isn't Kaelten project lead? |
| 10:27.22 | mitch0 | and I don't really see what that _really_ buys us (deframeworkificationvialibrarization) |
| 10:27.40 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: Kaelten has told me he's leader, others have told me there is no leader |
| 10:27.42 | ckknight | so I don't know |
| 10:28.01 | ckknight | mitch0: *shrug* it buys a lot of frustration |
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| 10:28.36 | Nickenyfiken | OK, at least he has to be closest to be |
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| 10:28.43 | Nickenyfiken | Jira tells me he is :-P |
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| 10:30.43 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 10:30.48 | Arrowmaster | "did you know that ace itself sends a message to everybody in the group/raid when you loot a corpse ? wtf ? sure looting in combat can be othersome.. but is adding code like that to the framework the way to get your addon working without everybody installing it ? I think someone from ace team said it can't get removed without breaking addons that might use it... I'd remove it anyways." |
| 10:30.55 | Arrowmaster | didnt tekkub add that? |
| 10:31.02 | ckknight | he sure did. |
| 10:31.08 | orionshock | hehe.... i saw that |
| 10:31.16 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.28 | Arrowmaster | although that is one of those extra features i kinda like |
| 10:31.35 | Nickenyfiken | Well, anyway we will hopefully have two frameworks that's better then Ace2 (witch is really good after all) but in different way. |
| 10:31.54 | Arrowmaster | a good way to make sure others actually have those hidden things by putting it into the framework |
| 10:33.13 | Nickenyfiken | So what addon will brake if that loot message is removed? |
| 10:34.13 | orionshock | none - it was mostly a joke |
| 10:34.23 | orionshock | --tbh i thought it was the wow client for the longest time :D |
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| 10:38.31 | rophy | which type is AceConfig? "New Feature", "Task" ? |
| 10:39.07 | orionshock | well... i guess it happened... >.> |
| 10:39.08 | orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8285.msg136656#msg136656 |
| 10:39.22 | sag_ich_nicht | rophy: the "massive failure" type. |
| 10:40.01 | Nickenyfiken | orionshock: what? |
| 10:40.34 | Sole | orionshock: edrama? |
| 10:40.38 | rophy | ust trying to learn to use jira |
| 10:40.42 | orionshock | Kaelten said his peace |
| 10:40.43 | Pheredhel | ckknight: Rook seems to make sense, especially regarding the fact, that Ace2/Ace2 addons are not really OO |
| 10:40.46 | rophy | s/ust/just/ |
| 10:41.46 | ckknight | orionshock: piece |
| 10:41.51 | orionshock | a leader is not a leader if he dosn't speak .. |
| 10:42.05 | orionshock | ckknight: i can't spell :D -- and i make few attempts to hide that |
| 10:42.13 | orionshock | i hate english |
| 10:42.30 | Stan__ | lol |
| 10:43.19 | Grum | orionshock: in an internet community the leader has to write .. not speak |
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| 10:43.36 | orionshock | subtle difference :P |
| 10:43.59 | Sole | orionshock: if this doesn't make sense or if im just smoking pot and appear to have No-Fking clue what im talking about them say so and i'll be quiet |
| 10:44.12 | Arrowmaster | oh no, i found a major point in this thread where im not going to like ace2 |
| 10:44.12 | Sole | orionshock: you are in fact smoking pot |
| 10:44.15 | Arrowmaster | *ace3 |
| 10:44.16 | Grum | but so so important - i have yet to read any documentation about ace3 |
| 10:44.22 | Sole | whats that Arrowmaster? |
| 10:44.30 | Sole | Grum: aye aye |
| 10:44.55 | Grum | seriously, what does ace3 have that ace2 hasn't? why is it better? why was it needed? what does it fix and or improve? |
| 10:45.00 | Grum | why does it remove certain things? |
| 10:45.01 | Arrowmaster | tek saying to use optdeps and that the stub wont load addons |
| 10:45.23 | Pheredhel | hmm, as Rock evolves, I think there should be a own repo for it (or at least move it to a different folder including Rock addons |
| 10:45.58 | Arrowmaster | i think part of the reason acelibrary started loading addons was because nobody ever fucking did their optdeps correctly |
| 10:46.07 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: right, I completely agree |
| 10:46.13 | ckknight | Rock is made with pragmatism in mind |
| 10:46.18 | ckknight | OptDeps don't work in all cases |
| 10:46.24 | Sole | ~dictionary pragmatism |
| 10:46.24 | purl | see dict pragmatism |
| 10:46.24 | ckknight | and especially not if people are lazy |
| 10:46.25 | ckknight | which they are |
| 10:46.36 | Sole | ~dict pragmatism |
| 10:46.41 | ckknight | it would work if it were policed properly |
| 10:46.45 | ckknight | but who is going to police it? |
| 10:46.56 | Grum | i can! |
| 10:46.57 | ckknight | and why bother when a solution is available? |
| 10:46.57 | JoshBorke | ckknight: where doesn't OptDeps work? |
| 10:47.04 | Sole | purl: what the fack is that supposed to mean!? |
| 10:47.04 | purl | ACTION the fack is that supposed to mean! to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 10:47.08 | Grum | i'll be the ninja-police and kick people in the groin |
| 10:47.15 | Sole | rofl@purl |
| 10:47.15 | Arrowmaster | i dont agree with your idea to put everything you need into rocks core (if rock was to be ace3 but since rock is rock and its for your usage only right now thats fine) |
| 10:47.16 | ckknight | JoshBorke: laziness by authors and also lazy loading |
| 10:47.41 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: not everything, but addons won't need to include the AceLibrary/AceOO/AceAddon trio |
| 10:47.48 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: just the one |
| 10:47.52 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: everything else is added on |
| 10:47.52 | JoshBorke | ckknight: but how is NOT including OptDeps being lazy? perhaps I don't include OptDeps because I don't WANT my users to disembed my addon |
| 10:48.16 | ckknight | *shrug* do what you feel like |
| 10:48.16 | Arrowmaster | theres also cases where an addon has a feature that uses a certain library but unless that feature is enabled theres no reason to load that library |
| 10:48.25 | ckknight | right |
| 10:48.31 | ckknight | like optional support for SharedMedia |
| 10:48.36 | sag_ich_nicht | JoshBorke that's because you're a dick. tell me which addons you wrote right now so i can fix any i might have installed to be disembedded. :O |
| 10:48.46 | Sole | ^ lol |
| 10:49.03 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: but why should it be my responsibility to make it easier for the user to do something that makes it harder on the user in the end? |
| 10:49.23 | JoshBorke | someone PLEASE tell me that disembedding is easier to manage than embedded |
| 10:49.29 | ckknight | standalones are faster |
| 10:49.33 | ckknight | they're for advanced users |
| 10:49.33 | Grum | right .. do we have a wiki that explains 'embedding' and 'disembedding' in wow-addons and in particulary ace2 addons? |
| 10:49.37 | ckknight | not beginners |
| 10:49.44 | JoshBorke | ckknight: agreed. and advanced users should know wtf an optdep is |
| 10:49.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight is correct. |
| 10:49.47 | ckknight | though WAU makes it easy |
| 10:49.54 | Arrowmaster | standalones are easier to manage when using a system to manage them ala wau or svn |
| 10:49.54 | ckknight | so it's not a big deal either way |
| 10:50.30 | sag_ich_nicht | so which addons did you write? :P |
| 10:50.33 | Arrowmaster | also the terms are really really bad for noob users |
| 10:50.37 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: they are all on wowi :-P |
| 10:50.50 | Grum | meh someone explain: 'embed' plox ;D |
| 10:50.59 | ckknight | it's pl0x |
| 10:51.01 | sag_ich_nicht | die Grum. |
| 10:51.04 | Pheredhel | is rock stable (stable enough to be used in addons right now) |
| 10:51.04 | Grum | i can guess but i guess wrong! |
| 10:51.06 | JoshBorke | ckknight: like you said, WAU makes it easy. so put the job on the update agents and NOT on the framework design or the developers |
| 10:51.14 | ckknight | Pheredhel: pretty much. |
| 10:51.14 | Arrowmaster | an addon 'with externals' is 'embeded' and an addon 'without externals' is 'disembedded', its assbackwards |
| 10:51.28 | Grum | ok now explain 'with externals' |
| 10:51.30 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=27403 |
| 10:51.32 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm... nope, nothing. |
| 10:51.34 | ckknight | JoshBorke: that an issue? why should it be their problem? |
| 10:51.35 | Grum | is that 'libs-dir with stuff in it' ? |
| 10:51.37 | sag_ich_nicht | found it already, JoshBorke |
| 10:51.40 | Pheredhel | ok, I think i will change CCBreaker to Rock then |
| 10:52.08 | JoshBorke | ckknight: why should it be the frameworks problem to handle OptDeps? |
| 10:52.11 | Arrowmaster | Grum: 'with externals' is with all the librarys in folders inside the addons folder |
| 10:52.27 | ckknight | JoshBorke: because it solves a problem at hand with minimal effort |
| 10:52.34 | Grum | basicly getting the 'bundle' as the author meants to have it versionwise right? |
| 10:52.40 | Xinhuan | you realise some people read it to me "with externals" means the libs are located externally - i.e disembedded. |
| 10:52.44 | JoshBorke | ckknight: and the problem is what? |
| 10:52.45 | Grum | so your addon will work 'out of the box' |
| 10:52.46 | ckknight | Pheredhel: please tell me as you're going along, if you have any troubles or otherwise |
| 10:52.46 | Xinhuan | s/me/mean |
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| 10:52.57 | Arrowmaster | ace2 fails majorly when libraries couldnt be loaded by acelib and the load order was messed up |
| 10:52.59 | JoshBorke | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 10:52.59 | purl | installs PocketPC on nevcairiel's PDA |
| 10:53.07 | ckknight | JoshBorke: using standalones. Since you don't believe in it, it;s not your problem and you shouldn't be bothered |
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| 10:53.42 | Corgan | dumb computer is lagging up the wazoo |
| 10:53.47 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: oh, quite true |
| 10:53.59 | Grum | but that is not really easy to solve |
| 10:54.04 | Grum | as it is wow which is loading it right? |
| 10:54.12 | Pheredhel | ckknight: Ok, just didn't wanted to try to port it, if there are many known bugs/missing parts |
| 10:54.15 | [Ammo] | loadorder won't matter for independant libs |
| 10:54.27 | JoshBorke | ckknight: i never said i don't believe in it. i said that I don't believe it is a problem of the framework. all you have said is it is "faster" which I agree with. you have not made any argumentative points as to why it should be the problem of the framework |
| 10:54.39 | Grum | [Ammo]: there would be any independant libs - all share functionality |
| 10:54.46 | Grum | you can have 1-2 *very* basic ones |
| 10:55.20 | JoshBorke | Grum: my "library" ClickTip has no shared functionality unless you call CreateFrame shared |
| 10:55.21 | ckknight | Pheredhel: yea, that's cool, just tell me if anything seems funky |
| 10:55.52 | [Ammo] | Grum: what are you talkinga about? |
| 10:56.04 | Pheredhel | oh, do you mind if ir redirect LibRock to Rock in the wiki? (first looked for LibRock and didn't find it ;) |
| 10:56.12 | Grum | [Ammo]: if you want to do anything which is a bit more sophisticated you will get libraries depending on libraries |
| 10:56.16 | JoshBorke | ~seen usz |
| 10:56.18 | purl | usz <n=usz@chello089078245040.chello.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 76d 16h 42m 47s ago, saying: 'Josh_Borke, I see no problem at all, just take what you need'. |
| 10:56.40 | [Ammo] | Grum: euhm no? |
| 10:56.48 | ckknight | Pheredhel: LibRock-1.0 is the actual lib |
| 10:56.54 | ckknight | Pheredhel: but sure, redirect LibRock to Rock |
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| 10:57.15 | Pheredhel | i know, just to get the basic description on the same name |
| 10:57.18 | Grum | [Ammo]: so for example you have Threat-1.0 which is a library |
| 10:57.30 | Grum | but that depends on Babble-Spell .. which is also a library |
| 10:57.31 | nevcairiel | Threat-1.0 isnt really a library |
| 10:57.34 | Grum | and Tourist for example |
| 10:57.38 | nevcairiel | its a exception |
| 10:57.43 | Grum | well it is - you ask Threat - you get it |
| 10:58.02 | ckknight | I don't see how Threat-1.0 isn't a library... |
| 10:58.26 | JoshBorke | the definition of a library depends on how broad you want the scope to be |
| 10:58.31 | Student_ | :o |
| 10:58.34 | Grum | anything that isn't an addon but still is code |
| 10:58.37 | Grum | quite simple |
| 10:58.38 | rophy | I personally define Threat-1.0 as library too. |
| 10:58.42 | ckknight | hi, Student_ |
| 10:58.44 | Grum | Omen is the addon - Threat-1.0 is the library |
| 10:58.48 | Student_ | hi |
| 10:58.50 | Xinhuan | antiarc says it is not LOD because users want to be able to use it to share threat info even if omen isn't installed |
| 10:58.57 | ckknight | mostly tanks |
| 10:58.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:59.04 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r48520 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 10:59.04 | CIA-22 | .Babble-Spell-2.2 : |
| 10:59.04 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 10:59.06 | Grum | Xinhuan: which is valid imho |
| 10:59.11 | Codayus | Thing is, Threat is pretty clearly an addon too, no? |
| 10:59.20 | Grum | it is an addon |
| 10:59.24 | Arrowmaster | threat-1.0 will not work if its loaded LoD |
| 10:59.32 | Xinhuan | its more of an addon than a library in that case :) |
| 10:59.32 | Arrowmaster | its not designed to work that way |
| 10:59.32 | Grum | in the fact of the word (you install it as a seperate folder in your addons dir) |
| 10:59.34 | ckknight | no, it's not. It has no user interface, therefore I wouldn't consider it an addon |
| 10:59.47 | ckknight | Grum: but you can install any library that way. |
| 10:59.51 | Grum | yup |
| 10:59.56 | Xinhuan | because it does something |
| 10:59.59 | JoshBorke | you cannot define something which has no user interface as an addon |
| 11:00.01 | Grum | that is the downside of libraries - atm they are installed as addons |
| 11:00.08 | Xinhuan | not true josh |
| 11:00.12 | ckknight | why's that a downside? |
| 11:00.12 | Grum | and tbh i therefor like embedded libraries better |
| 11:00.13 | Codayus | But it does stuff even without any other addons installed. Most other libraries don't, no? And I'm sure I could find a few obvious addons without any UI at all. |
| 11:00.15 | JoshBorke | s/addon/library/ |
| 11:00.21 | nevcairiel | Threat-1.0 works without any addon loading it |
| 11:00.22 | Xinhuan | as an example, MobHealth3 has no user interface |
| 11:00.26 | nevcairiel | thats not a library in my world |
| 11:00.27 | Xinhuan | but it is an addon |
| 11:00.36 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: i had my word backwards |
| 11:00.38 | Codayus | SeriousBuffTimers as well... |
| 11:00.40 | Arrowmaster | you can embed threat-1.0, just your addon you embed it into cannot be LoD |
| 11:00.44 | Grum | ckknight: you dont want to put the user through the pain of having 400+ 'library-addons' in their wow-dir |
| 11:00.50 | ckknight | everyone has conflicting ideas on what is and what is not an addon/library |
| 11:00.51 | Codayus | Which obviously isn't a library. |
| 11:01.05 | ckknight | Grum: it's not as big of a deal if they all start with "Lib" |
| 11:01.06 | Codayus | ckknight: True; there's no perfect answer. |
| 11:01.16 | Xinhuan | so do you think mobhealth3 is a library or an addon? |
| 11:01.16 | Grum | ckknight: true but it confuses the hell out of people |
| 11:01.23 | Xinhuan | all it does is passive background data collection on the health of mobs |
| 11:01.30 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: i think MH3 is an addon |
| 11:01.40 | Xinhuan | MH3 does not have a user interface |
| 11:01.42 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: my definition of library is probably more strict than most people's |
| 11:01.50 | Grum | MH would be a library if it left the unitframes alone |
| 11:01.51 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: as i said, i had my wording backwards |
| 11:01.53 | Xinhuan | it only provides an API for other addons to make use of the information |
| 11:02.01 | Xinhuan | usually unit frames |
| 11:02.07 | JoshBorke | (07:00:15) purl: JoshBorke meant: you cannot define something which has no user interface as an library |
| 11:02.24 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: :-P |
| 11:02.27 | sag_ich_nicht | 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 11:02.39 | [dRaCo] | mh3 does not change anything... that's mh_blizzframes or the specific uf addon |
| 11:02.42 | kebinusan | Well, personally I disembed because a svn update is 100,000 times faster... |
| 11:02.47 | Grum | [dRaCo]: then the name is crap |
| 11:02.51 | Codayus | Hmm, that's a point. |
| 11:02.53 | Grum | and it should be: libMobHealth orso |
| 11:02.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 11:03.03 | Codayus | I mean...what does MH do that BanzaiLib doesn't? |
| 11:03.05 | Arrowmaster | because its really MobHealth |
| 11:03.12 | [dRaCo] | well, might be. not my addon. |
| 11:03.24 | [dRaCo] | Codayus: calculate a mob's health? |
| 11:03.24 | Arrowmaster | since its still compatable with addons writen for MobHealth1 |
| 11:03.30 | rophy | for the disbemdding problem, can't WAU change the OptDeps to ReqDeps? |
| 11:03.35 | rophy | doesn't that solves everything ? |
| 11:03.47 | JoshBorke | rophy: it does not solve developers not including OptDeps in the first place |
| 11:03.49 | rophy | of course ReqDeps != OptDeps in all situation |
| 11:03.53 | Codayus | [dRaCo]: You know what I mean. :-) |
| 11:03.59 | rophy | it's up to developers's responsibility |
| 11:04.15 | JoshBorke | rophy: but as ckknight states quite correctly, developers are lazy |
| 11:04.17 | rophy | and since wowace is a community, people can help adding OptDeps |
| 11:04.20 | Student_ | cya |
| 11:04.24 | rophy | that's where the community can help |
| 11:04.28 | [dRaCo] | Codayus: oh... yeah, sorry. being stupid :/ |
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| 11:04.35 | Arrowmaster | and many of the developers in the past would add a new function that used a new library and ignore the optdeps and totally forget about it |
| 11:04.36 | Grum | JoshBorke: lets punish lazy developers by breaking their addons |
| 11:04.43 | ckknight | ah, they won't |
| 11:04.45 | nevcairiel | developers are lazy, but its their addons that wont work then |
| 11:04.45 | Xinhuan | i consider threat-1.0 to be an addon, and not a library, because it does more than just provide an API. it actively calculates stuff |
| 11:04.48 | JoshBorke | i'm sorry, but i look at the list of addons and I shudder at the thought of fixing them |
| 11:04.48 | ckknight | and Arrowmaster is very correct |
| 11:04.58 | [Ammo] | hopefully with some new svn setup and a better WAU people won't get alpha junk all the time and get the proper tagged releases |
| 11:05.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:04] <Grum> JoshBorke: lets punish lazy developers by breaking their addons <--that's actually a good idea imho |
| 11:05.05 | Grum | Xinhuan: lol it *is* a library |
| 11:05.06 | ckknight | nevcairiel: I see no reason why their addons shouldn't work |
| 11:05.12 | rophy | yes, and in that case the current approach won't work too |
| 11:05.19 | rophy | the current WAU |
| 11:05.21 | Xinhuan | it isn't a library in that sense grum |
| 11:05.21 | Grum | there is no possibly way you can call Threat-1.0 NOT a library |
| 11:05.40 | JoshBorke | grum: he just did! how bout them beans! |
| 11:05.43 | nevcairiel | ckknight: if they are too lazy to add OptDeps, it will possibly fail, and only their addon, not others, so i dont see that big issue there :) |
| 11:05.56 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: wrong |
| 11:06.03 | nevcairiel | how so? |
| 11:06.06 | Grum | it has an interface, does nothing with the ui, has no userinput/output - seriously is a library |
| 11:06.09 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: but why even worry when the framework can resolve those issues |
| 11:06.13 | Arrowmaster | in the past 1 addon not adding an optdep would break a fuck ton of other ace2 addons |
| 11:06.17 | kebinusan | [Ammo], Yeah, I never understood why libraries never got tagged and were always under perpetual development *shrugs* |
| 11:06.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster so did you take a look yesterday? you kind of went AWOL |
| 11:06.27 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: how so? |
| 11:06.36 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: remind me to slap you later |
| 11:06.37 | rophy | I'm talking about the issue that 'framework should help loading libraries', what does framework do which WAU cannot? |
| 11:06.48 | Xinhuan | grum: it actively communicates with all other threat-1.0 users, and does a heap of background processing, that alone makes it more than a library |
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| 11:06.51 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: fubar plugins for one thing |
| 11:06.52 | Codayus | BanzaiLib, Threat, and MH all have no UI, but actively perform calculations and such even if no mod uses them. Most other libraries do nothing if no addon uses then, right? |
| 11:06.53 | JoshBorke | rophy: determine at runtime what libraries are used by an addon |
| 11:07.02 | Grum | Xinhuan: that is *exactly* what libraries should do |
| 11:07.08 | Grum | 'do stuff in the background' so addons can use the data |
| 11:07.11 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: one messes up an optdep and breaks the entire interface |
| 11:07.16 | [Ammo] | Codayus: banzai actually does nothing if no addon uses it |
| 11:07.17 | rophy | JoshBorke: that should be responsiblity of addon manager, like ACP |
| 11:07.21 | [Ammo] | it magically enables/disables |
| 11:07.26 | Xinhuan | no, a library shouldn't do stuff in the background - a library is just a common set of functions that is commonly used |
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| 11:07.30 | JoshBorke | rophy: i fucking agree :_D |
| 11:07.34 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: thats a big design flaw in the system then, and personally i havent heard of that *shrug* |
| 11:07.40 | Codayus | [Ammoo]: Ah? I stand corrected. Hmm. RosterLib would be the same way, no? |
| 11:07.40 | JoshBorke | rophy: but ACP can't determine that ither |
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| 11:07.58 | [Ammo] | Codayus: no rosterlib just does it's thing always |
| 11:08.02 | rophy | JoshBorke:it's because Blizzard API doesn't support fetching OptDeps, and if WAU changes OptDeps to ReqDeps, that solves it. |
| 11:08.18 | Grum | Xinhuan: no a library hides stuff behind an API |
| 11:08.19 | Arrowmaster | but not everybody uses WAU |
| 11:08.27 | rophy | the real problem is, OptDeps >= ReqDeps, so they aren't identical. |
| 11:08.38 | Xinhuan | then we beg to differ - your definition of a library is different from mine |
| 11:08.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:06] <sag_ich_nicht> Arrowmaster so did you take a look yesterday? you kind of went AWOL |
| 11:08.47 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: no i didnt |
| 11:08.49 | orionshock | actualy threat has a small /slash command interface ... |
| 11:08.50 | nevcairiel | well, people who want to use standalones, should use WAU, or know what they do. we have to draw a line somewhere |
| 11:08.50 | JoshBorke | rophy: no, you're missing the key problem. the problem is not what to do once everything is installed and filled out, it's what to do if OptDeps and ReqDeps are missing from the toc and the user has disembedded all of the libraries |
| 11:09.08 | sag_ich_nicht | k |
| 11:09.11 | Sole | orionshock: glory has a /slash interface also but it still a lib |
| 11:09.13 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i use standalones and purely svn |
| 11:09.13 | kebinusan | orionshock: for testing stuff IIRC |
| 11:09.15 | Codayus | Interesting. Hmm. I "feel" RosterLib is obviously "just" a library, and that Threat is obviously more. I can't find a logical distinction between the two though. :-) |
| 11:09.16 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: that's a matter of opinion. |
| 11:09.19 | rophy | JoshBorke: ... yeah, i see that now. |
| 11:09.26 | Xinhuan | an library that actively communicates by itself is no longer a library - it is an addon that performs a specific job |
| 11:09.29 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: but i guess you know what you are doing :) |
| 11:09.41 | orionshock | glory has /slash commands -- wtf it needs slash commnads for?? |
| 11:09.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Codayus feelings have no place in a world of CODE. |
| 11:09.48 | Grum | Xinhuan: it's better to separate 'frontend from backend' by using easy terms - addon for frontend, library for backend |
| 11:09.50 | Codayus | I know. :-( |
| 11:10.04 | JoshBorke | personally, I think a good solution would be to write a LibraryLoader lib that mods can register what libs they want and have that mod load the libs for it (if that functionality is really needed) |
| 11:10.04 | Xinhuan | yeah hence the differing opinions on what a library is |
| 11:10.06 | Sole | orionshock: it can calculate arena points/ratings ingame |
| 11:10.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Threat-1.0 is backend, POINT. |
| 11:10.15 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 11:10.15 | orionshock | oy!? |
| 11:10.18 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 11:10.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Threat-1.0 is backend, PERIOD. |
| 11:10.23 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed. |
| 11:10.25 | Grum | it is |
| 11:10.27 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: and i have to make batch files to put all my cartographer and bigwigs and other such folders back together before updating then call their included batch files after updating then do a massive delete of all embeds.xml |
| 11:10.28 | Codayus | Threat is obviously backend. True. |
| 11:10.28 | Grum | and it is a point |
| 11:10.29 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: lol |
| 11:10.30 | Sole | orionshock: /glory arena points 500 will tell you the require rating from each bracket to achieve those points |
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| 11:10.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 11:10.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Cairenn |
| 11:10.47 | sag_ich_nicht | help |
| 11:10.51 | sag_ich_nicht | they are all going mad |
| 11:10.52 | cryogen | wow, that thread is a real eye opener |
| 11:10.56 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: that sounds alot like my batch file :P but thats besides the point, really |
| 11:10.58 | cryogen | there are some real asshats involved with ace :) |
| 11:11.02 | Sole | lol |
| 11:11.03 | JoshBorke | cryogen: you read the naming schemes one? |
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| 11:11.07 | cryogen | JoshBorke: yes |
| 11:11.09 | Eggi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library |
| 11:11.11 | kebinusan | opinions do not an asshat make |
| 11:11.12 | ckknight | cryogen: yep, it's true |
| 11:11.13 | Grum | cryogen: you mean ace3 or ace2 or anything else? |
| 11:11.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Cairenn make them stop D: |
| 11:11.23 | Sole | STOP SPEAKING |
| 11:11.23 | Codayus | Pft, I don't believe anything on wikipedia. |
| 11:11.25 | JoshBorke | eggi: lol |
| 11:11.25 | Arrowmaster | JoshBorke: i think the idea of a library loader is redundant and the usage of a system like acelib2's where it just loads a library when something trys to access it is better |
| 11:11.25 | Sole | Im on page 3 |
| 11:11.28 | ckknight | Grum: ah, everyone |
| 11:11.31 | ckknight | :-P |
| 11:11.33 | Sole | I feel left out :( |
| 11:11.33 | Cartas | What's the script for showing HP in percentage? |
| 11:11.37 | Grum | you including then :) |
| 11:11.47 | Grum | Cartas: use dogtag :) |
| 11:11.48 | kebinusan | Too bad it got locked |
| 11:11.52 | Cartas | Hm? :o |
| 11:11.52 | Codayus | Which thread? |
| 11:11.54 | cryogen | some talented clever people who dont know how to get along or manage conflict |
| 11:11.58 | cryogen | is an apt summary, i think |
| 11:12.09 | ckknight | Cartas: /print UnitHealth("target")/UnitHealthMax("target")*100 |
| 11:12.14 | Grum | cryogen: yeah with as endpoint the wow-ace community exploding |
| 11:12.19 | JoshBorke | cryogen: i believe that there is not enough backstory to make a valid case for that statement |
| 11:12.32 | JoshBorke | all you see in that thread is poo flinging |
| 11:12.50 | cryogen | JoshBorke: well the "clever talents people" isnt based on anything in that thread :) |
| 11:12.53 | cryogen | the latter 2 comments are |
| 11:12.58 | cryogen | talented* |
| 11:13.00 | Grum | whatever happens - Cladhaire and ckknight have separated out - in the end this is not good for 'the world' |
| 11:13.05 | Cartas | Like, on a UnitFrames addon, I want to show Absolute HP and then a % alongside it... |
| 11:13.06 | kebinusan | I dunno, every time there is a pissing contest it always seems to end with someone taking their addons off the svn and going to play in their own sandbox, its happened a few times |
| 11:13.23 | ckknight | Grum: yea, but at least clad and I have come to a mutual understanding |
| 11:13.29 | Grum | yup |
| 11:13.35 | [dRaCo] | Cartas: does "your" addon support dogtag? |
| 11:13.38 | ckknight | Cartas: which UnitFrames addon? |
| 11:13.39 | Grum | he left for the reason you made joker/rock |
| 11:13.41 | Cartas | I'm using AGUF atm. |
| 11:13.48 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: what was it that you added to ace2 that made clad leave in the first place? |
| 11:13.49 | Cartas | I have [curhp]/[maxhp] for the absolute showing... |
| 11:14.01 | Corgan | get pitbull amirite? |
| 11:14.02 | JoshBorke | cryogen: my comment is based on the not getting along part/conflict management. at some point both sides reach the conclusion that the other isn't going to change. besides, tekkub is just a dick |
| 11:14.14 | Cartas | PitBull is far superior, Corgan? |
| 11:14.20 | Arrowmaster | everybody knows tekkub is a dick |
| 11:14.24 | Corgan | :D I think so. |
| 11:14.25 | JoshBorke | Cartas: PitBull takes more resources |
| 11:14.26 | [Ammo] | [percenthp] cartas |
| 11:14.31 | Cartas | Thanks Ammo, old chap! <3 |
| 11:14.32 | [Ammo] | [percenthp]% |
| 11:14.35 | Cartas | My li'l' gnome hero, as always,. |
| 11:14.36 | [Ammo] | for aguf |
| 11:14.40 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I stole the project from cladhaire and the others, because I saw a very slow progress taking place. I ended up writing quite a few sections of it. One of the largest places we fought was on the database section |
| 11:14.56 | cryogen | JoshBorke: being a dick back isnt necessarily a good way forward :) |
| 11:15.13 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 11:15.23 | JoshBorke | cryogen: i don't believe i saw much of the other Ace developers being a dick back at tekkub, it was mostly the ace users |
| 11:15.27 | ckknight | I ended up fully rewriting AceLibrary |
| 11:15.30 | ckknight | and AceHook |
| 11:15.40 | ckknight | and quite a few other places which clad dabbled with |
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| 11:15.56 | JoshBorke | quick, someone download TimeBlock! i'm 1 download from 200! |
| 11:16.06 | ckknight | I started coding on Ace2 because I was fed up with nothing happening for the most ungodly long time |
| 11:16.19 | ckknight | at the time, I wasn't in school and I didn't have a job |
| 11:16.25 | ckknight | so I was able to put a whole lot of time and effort into it |
| 11:16.32 | ckknight | where others had other priorities |
| 11:19.03 | Codayus | Mmm, for a while, I didn't think Ace2 was *ever* going to happen. |
| 11:19.32 | ckknight | same |
| 11:19.39 | orionshock | well in closing before i go to sleep ... my usual comment that prolly means nothing to a lot ... |
| 11:19.43 | orionshock | all i see here is a two edged sword.. and one way or another it's gona cut both sides that are holding it;and everyone will walk away bleeding somewhere.... |
| 11:19.51 | [dRaCo] | JoshBorke: what's TimeBLock? |
| 11:20.03 | orionshock | night all |
| 11:20.14 | JoshBorke | [dRaCo]: a little clock mod |
| 11:20.33 | JoshBorke | [dRaCo]: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7455-TimeBlock.html is a link |
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| 11:22.01 | [dRaCo] | Option House? who came up with that one? |
| 11:22.10 | JoshBorke | i dunno |
| 11:22.16 | JoshBorke | i think tekkub did |
| 11:22.21 | JoshBorke | shadowed did most of the work on it |
| 11:23.28 | JoshBorke | woohoo! 200 downloads! |
| 11:23.31 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 11:24.23 | nevcairiel | it should track downloads per-file imho |
| 11:24.42 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: agreed |
| 11:26.09 | Nickenyfiken | So without ckknight no Ace2 or Rock |
| 11:26.16 | Nickenyfiken | And without rock now Ace3 |
| 11:26.19 | Nickenyfiken | hehe :-P |
| 11:26.43 | Sole | I just drank a vitamin B pill with soda and its giving me funky tasting burps |
| 11:26.51 | Nickenyfiken | I sound like a fanboy *yay* |
| 11:26.59 | JoshBorke | Nickenyfiken: what? ckknight is still writing Rock |
| 11:27.04 | nevcairiel | is that something to be proud of? |
| 11:27.05 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:27.27 | Nickenyfiken | Nope |
| 11:27.31 | Sole | when did all this bullshit occur with tekkub getting flack from users? |
| 11:27.36 | ckknight | JoshBorke: not really, it's practically done |
| 11:27.42 | Sole | I left during the ace1 era |
| 11:27.47 | JoshBorke | s/writing/supporting/ |
| 11:27.59 | JoshBorke | ckknight: better? |
| 11:28.01 | Sole | and came back a couple days within ace2 coming around |
| 11:28.04 | ckknight | yea, that works |
| 11:28.05 | Nickenyfiken | JoshBorke: Well my idea is that if ckknight didn't write Rock the other developers wouldn't have started writing Ace3 |
| 11:28.08 | JoshBorke | or are you not supporting it in addition to it being done? |
| 11:28.12 | Sole | I dont remember hearing about tekkub getting flack |
| 11:28.20 | JoshBorke | Nickenyfiken: that's an incorrect assumption |
| 11:28.28 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: that sorta fits what Ammo has told me |
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| 11:28.44 | nevcairiel | it would've started eventually |
| 11:28.49 | Nickenyfiken | Well I never heard a word about Ace3 until ckknight wrote Rock. Then after that the Ace3 project started |
| 11:28.50 | nevcairiel | but not in that exact moment |
| 11:28.55 | ckknight | though it's probably one of the straws that broke the camel's back |
| 11:29.11 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah... It would be even more delayed |
| 11:29.16 | JoshBorke | i would agree that Rock spurred the development more |
| 11:29.19 | Sole | nickeny hit the nail on the head for me |
| 11:29.25 | JoshBorke | but it did not cause the development |
| 11:29.30 | Nickenyfiken | What I'm saying is ckknight works like a energy injection to get everyone going :-) |
| 11:29.45 | Sole | well Im sure lots of people were contemplating a new framework for a while now |
| 11:29.47 | JoshBorke | that's funny because he has the opposite effect on me |
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| 11:30.07 | nevcairiel | not that you get productive anyway josh =P |
| 11:30.17 | Grum | making clock-addons! zomg |
| 11:30.22 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:30.23 | [dRaCo] | he wrote a clock addon! |
| 11:30.25 | JoshBorke | hey! i'm going through a rough time in my life! |
| 11:30.35 | Grum | meno-clock-pause? |
| 11:30.44 | JoshBorke | why can't you all just leave me alone *cries* |
| 11:30.45 | [dRaCo] | no beer at home, josh? :þ |
| 11:31.26 | Sole | lol |
| 11:31.35 | Sole | nobody has yet to help me out here :( |
| 11:31.40 | Sole | what happened to tekkub? |
| 11:31.46 | Sole | more like when |
| 11:32.13 | ckknight | dunno |
| 11:32.13 | JoshBorke | meh, a few months ago i'd guess |
| 11:32.21 | ckknight | nah, more than that |
| 11:32.30 | ckknight | it's like Tekkub just gave up hope one day |
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| 11:34.10 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 11:34.16 | JoshBorke | oh hai |
| 11:34.49 | Grum | anyhow, did anyone wtb some gnome-babies? |
| 11:34.54 | Fisker- | ~seen Punkie` |
| 11:34.55 | purl | punkie` is currently on #wowi-lounge (4h 25m 43s) #wowace (4h 25m 43s), last said: 'oh yeah, i looked there, found it'. |
| 11:35.02 | Fisker- | haet Punkie` |
| 11:35.23 | Nickenyfiken | Fisker sounds like a Norwegian word for fisherman |
| 11:35.32 | Fisker- | ... |
| 11:35.35 | Fisker- | O RLY_ |
| 11:35.36 | Fisker- | ? |
| 11:35.41 | evl_ | Fisker- is i=xD@85.24.17.53.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk * Thomas Larsen |
| 11:35.43 | evl_ | yrlu. |
| 11:35.44 | Fisker- | fucking genius! |
| 11:35.51 | evl_ | i clapped inside my heart Fisker- :) |
| 11:35.54 | Fisker- | it's the same in danish btw |
| 11:36.17 | Sole | HAI THOMAS LARSEN |
| 11:36.17 | Nickenyfiken | omg! |
| 11:36.21 | ckknight | alright, time to go to bed |
| 11:36.25 | Sole | later ck |
| 11:36.32 | JoshBorke | isn't it like, 3am there ckknight? |
| 11:36.39 | krka_ | i love the drama! |
| 11:36.44 | krka_ | gief moar drama |
| 11:36.44 | JoshBorke | krka_: morning |
| 11:36.52 | krka_ | morning |
| 11:36.59 | Nickenyfiken | Don't get stuck in a endless loop in your dream. I do that too often :-( |
| 11:37.00 | Sole | krka_: lol its entertaining but makes me a sad panda |
| 11:37.16 | Sole | speaking of dreams I got my face shot off in a dream once |
| 11:37.20 | krka_ | Nickenyfiken: i thought you could only do that once |
| 11:37.26 | Sole | I woke up straight after that so I didnt get to see the blood :( |
| 11:37.29 | JoshBorke | i got married in mine last night |
| 11:37.37 | [dRaCo] | who'd you marry? |
| 11:37.45 | JoshBorke | my fiancee |
| 11:37.50 | Sole | ... |
| 11:37.55 | [dRaCo] | that sounds realistic. |
| 11:38.02 | JoshBorke | that's what was scary about it |
| 11:38.08 | Sole | lol |
| 11:38.09 | Nickenyfiken | rofl |
| 11:38.13 | JoshBorke | except my best man dropped in from a helicopter |
| 11:38.19 | [dRaCo] | fuN! |
| 11:38.21 | Sole | classy |
| 11:38.42 | JoshBorke | otherwise it was scary real |
| 11:39.05 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 11:39.19 | Codayus | Could be fun. |
| 11:39.38 | [dRaCo] | w/ or w/o a parachute? |
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| 11:40.04 | Codayus | I was about to wonder if anyone had been married while skydiving, but somehow, I'm sure the answer is "yes"... |
| 11:40.31 | JoshBorke | [dRaCo]: in my dream, low height without |
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| 11:41.41 | [dRaCo] | your dreams are too realistic to be funny... |
| 11:42.34 | Sole | "YOU are the only person that's ever had problems with it, because you want it to do weird ass-backwards shit." goddamn Tekkub really is angry |
| 11:42.58 | Codayus | I had a dream once where I was surfing down a mountain made of pink icing once. On a surf board..odd, especially since I've never surfed in my life... |
| 11:43.22 | Sole | surfing doesn't look like the type of thing Id be good at |
| 11:43.46 | Codayus | I understand you need a sense of balance for it. :-( |
| 11:43.47 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r48523 10/trunk/ (19 files in 5 dirs): BigWigs & LittleWigs: Update zhCN localization |
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| 11:44.07 | Codayus | I don't think I'd be very good at it. |
| 11:44.21 | Sole | actually I take that back |
| 11:44.41 | Sole | I could probably be pretty decent if I got used to jumping onto my board |
| 11:45.13 | Sole | Ive got the physical build I thinks - just the knowing wtf to do bit is missing |
| 11:45.25 | Fisker- | HAI Sole |
| 11:45.30 | Sole | HAI THOMAS LARSEN |
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| 11:46.06 | Sole | you know this one time at this forum I saw a guy called Fiskerdin posting |
| 11:46.08 | Sole | and it was YOU |
| 11:46.55 | Fisker- | :O |
| 11:47.04 | Fisker- | shocker |
| 11:48.07 | Sole | yainkoe |
| 11:48.38 | Sole | s/yainkoe/yaIknoe/ |
| 11:48.51 | JoshBorke | ~whalenuke Sole |
| 11:48.52 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Sole with his mind powers |
| 11:48.54 | JoshBorke | ~whalebomb Fisker- |
| 11:48.55 | purl | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at Fisker- and hides. |
| 11:49.13 | Fisker- | don't do it! |
| 11:49.19 | Fisker- | ~whaleparry |
| 11:49.24 | Fisker- | ~whaleparry JoshBorke |
| 11:49.25 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry JoshBorke's attacks. |
| 11:49.35 | Sole | purl: you suck |
| 11:49.36 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 11:49.41 | Recluse | lol |
| 11:49.52 | Sole | still one of my favourites :P |
| 11:50.00 | nevcairiel | purl, purl? |
| 11:50.01 | purl | i guess purl is teh b0m8 |
| 11:50.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ~~~~ |
| 11:50.43 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT sag_ich_nicht!!! |
| 11:50.51 | sag_ich_nicht | >:) |
| 11:50.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ~~~~~~~ |
| 11:50.54 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat sag_ich_nicht. |
| 11:51.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ~~~~~~ |
| 11:51.02 | purl | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots sag_ich_nicht in the head three times. |
| 11:51.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ~~~~ |
| 11:51.09 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT sag_ich_nicht!!! |
| 11:51.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ~~~~~ |
| 11:51.12 | purl | grrrr |
| 11:51.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ~~ |
| 11:51.16 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 11:51.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ~ |
| 11:51.45 | clad|sleep | fwiw (with regards to last night's conversation), I'm writing AceDB-3.0 because I was asked to, not because I'm abandoning my own projects to join Ace3.. or trying to make Ace3 my own. I know no one directly accused me of this, but I wanted to clarify. |
| 11:52.29 | sag_ich_nicht | clad|sleep ckknight is already sleeping, you can stop. >;P |
| 11:52.58 | clad|sleep | sag_ich_nicht: I wish you would understand what you're talking about before you spew nonsense |
| 11:53.03 | clad|sleep | that was in no way directed towards ckknight |
| 11:53.13 | sag_ich_nicht | clad|sleep i wish your troll detector wasn't broken |
| 11:53.16 | clad|sleep | as he said last night, if you had bothered to read, is that him and I have come to a mutual understanding. |
| 11:53.17 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry. <3 |
| 11:53.33 | clad|sleep | sag_ich_nicht: you're always a troll.. whats to detect? :P |
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| 11:53.53 | sag_ich_nicht | uh... detected active trolling instead of passive? :D |
| 11:53.59 | clad|sleep | ;-) |
| 11:54.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i know, iknow. i am just stabbing at it because i'm bored at work. sorry :O |
| 11:54.24 | Fisker- | i hate you sag_ich_nicht |
| 11:54.37 | sag_ich_nicht | because i'm a better troll than you? |
| 11:54.40 | sag_ich_nicht | well HATE ME MORE |
| 11:54.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i GAIN strength from it |
| 11:56.36 | sag_ich_nicht | but on a more serious note, clad|sleep i hope you realize that i'm not really serious about this whole thing and don't mean it...well mean. :P |
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| 11:56.48 | clad|sleep | I do :P |
| 11:57.32 | asmodai | http://imdb.com/title/tt0803096/ |
| 11:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | which remidnds me |
| 11:57.42 | sag_ich_nicht | *reminds me |
| 11:57.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i still had to report something to someone |
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| 11:57.59 | Fisker- | Vin Diesel as THRALL! |
| 11:58.10 | Sole | clad|sleep: what ever happened with Tem? |
| 11:58.50 | clad|sleep | what do you mean?Tem's still very much around, just focused on finishing school |
| 11:59.05 | Sole | Haven't seen him on irc, thought he left us :( |
| 12:00.56 | clad|sleep | He's here now Tem|AFK :P |
| 12:01.44 | Sole | I fail at life :( |
| 12:02.06 | Sole | hes almost at the top of the list too! |
| 12:02.34 | Sirow|lunch | Probably the age, you're getting old ;) |
| 12:02.42 | Sole | lies |
| 12:02.52 | abbat-w | fail at life? |
| 12:04.22 | Sirow | Or its like this Stone in Harry Potter, if you want to find him (Trem) you can't see him, but if you don't care, you can see him ;) |
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| 12:05.09 | Chompers | Fisker- ! |
| 12:05.17 | Chompers | is it hugz time? |
| 12:06.45 | Fisker- | NO |
| 12:06.49 | Fisker- | it can be hugz tiem though |
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| 12:08.19 | Sole | hugz tiem on Fisker- kgo |
| 12:08.38 | Sirow | Whats hugz? |
| 12:08.44 | Sole | and no crap hugs...either a big teddy hug or a man hug (the shits manly yo) |
| 12:08.58 | Sole | s/hugs/hugz/ |
| 12:09.21 | Sole | Sirow: hugz is the fuel of life |
| 12:09.45 | Sirow | hm |
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| 12:15.52 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48524 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 12:15.52 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - ACE-19 |
| 12:15.53 | CIA-22 | - Added some comments to the copyDefaults metatable section, including rationale |
| 12:18.24 | Fisker- | omg clad|sleep |
| 12:18.27 | Fisker- | blasphemy |
| 12:18.34 | clad|sleep | ? |
| 12:18.42 | Tinyboom | no sleep for teh wicked ones:p |
| 12:18.55 | Fisker- | you made a commit on an ace project >O |
| 12:18.57 | Fisker- | with :O |
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| 12:20.17 | Nickenyfiken | clad|sleep: You code while sleeping? |
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| 12:20.43 | Stan__ | Nickenyfiken: he sleeps while coding |
| 12:20.49 | Nickenyfiken | rofl |
| 12:21.00 | Nickenyfiken | Ac3-DB == DongleDB |
| 12:21.03 | Nickenyfiken | just copy paste |
| 12:21.05 | Fisker- | he's sleepcoding |
| 12:21.15 | Nickenyfiken | i can't type ffs |
| 12:21.39 | clad|sleep | Nickenyfiken: no, it wasn't copy/pasted |
| 12:21.48 | clad|sleep | i re-typed almost all of it :P |
| 12:21.58 | Nickenyfiken | Oh, Dongle code sucks? :-P |
| 12:22.13 | clad|sleep | i wrote it, of course it does. |
| 12:22.27 | Nickenyfiken | :-( |
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| 12:23.29 | Sole | Dongle is shit |
| 12:23.33 | Sole | its like 100 lines of code |
| 12:23.36 | Sole | not enough code RAWR |
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| 12:23.56 | Sole | ^ number generated straight out of my ass |
| 12:24.28 | Nickenyfiken | I'm gonna write a lib framework then put it on one line |
| 12:24.40 | Nickenyfiken | And claim it's best because it's few lines |
| 12:25.29 | Sole | too bad you cant RITE a lib framework because youre a stupid |
| 12:25.44 | Nickenyfiken | I can |
| 12:25.49 | Sole | prove it |
| 12:25.59 | Nickenyfiken | I can't |
| 12:26.03 | Sirow | :D |
| 12:26.09 | Sole | I win |
| 12:26.22 | Nickenyfiken | Give me 30 hour days and i will :-) |
| 12:26.31 | krka_ | i'm gonna make a framework framework |
| 12:26.40 | krka_ | so everyone can use it to make their own frameworks |
| 12:26.55 | Nickenyfiken | No make a framework containing all other frameworks |
| 12:27.13 | Nickenyfiken | I wan't a addon that has all frameworks as mixins |
| 12:27.21 | Nickenyfiken | So i can use the POWA of them all |
| 12:27.44 | Nickenyfiken | Sorry I'm just bored :-/ |
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| 12:30.11 | Nickenyfiken | This channel is turning me into a troll :-( |
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| 12:31.05 | Sole | lol@clad accidentally locking lib naming thread |
| 12:31.57 | clad|sleep | i didn't lock it |
| 12:31.58 | clad|sleep | kaelten did imo |
| 12:32.05 | clad|sleep | i just responded because I didn't see it was locked ;P |
| 12:32.23 | mitch0 | oh, it's locked :( |
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| 12:33.22 | Sole | hehe thought your "eep" note meant you accidentally hit the "Lock thread" checkbox |
| 12:33.24 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 12:33.28 | sag_ich_nicht | link to said thread please |
| 12:33.43 | Sole | its the shit flinging one we spent the last hour discussing |
| 12:34.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 12:34.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't bother reading it yet |
| 12:34.09 | mitch0 | sag: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8285.100 |
| 12:34.23 | mitch0 | actually, some info can be wrenched out of it |
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| 12:34.38 | mitch0 | although I'm still not clear about the ace3 pov |
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| 12:35.00 | Morgh | clad|sleep violated Kael's locks :o |
| 12:35.35 | Xinhuan | omfg, kael down!!!! (finally) |
| 12:35.46 | Xinhuan | attuned to hyjal complete!! |
| 12:35.54 | Sole | lol |
| 12:35.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ...not funny. |
| 12:36.05 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 12:36.08 | Morgh | hahaha |
| 12:36.12 | Xinhuan | sorry just hella excited :) |
| 12:36.16 | Morgh | I lol'd ;) |
| 12:36.16 | Xinhuan | won t5 chest |
| 12:36.22 | Morgh | Oooh, I want that one too. |
| 12:36.23 | Sole | grats |
| 12:36.28 | Sole | too bad raiding is boring |
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| 12:36.31 | Sole | kek |
| 12:36.34 | Morgh | We've downed him as well. Killing him again is hard :o |
| 12:36.45 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 12:36.47 | abbat-w | agree with Sole about raiding |
| 12:36.49 | Morgh | Sole - Only reason I play WoW, since I've tried everything else ;P |
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| 12:37.13 | Sole | Morgh: I spent the 60 metagame raiding..dont have the motivation for the 70 raiding |
| 12:37.24 | abbat-w | =)))) |
| 12:37.32 | abbat-w | same for me |
| 12:37.36 | Sole | I got my share of server firsts and eglory and edrama and all that |
| 12:37.40 | Sole | edrama was fun though :) |
| 12:37.45 | Morgh | Sole - I recommend the 70 raiding. It's huge fun when you are 25 instead of 40. |
| 12:37.57 | Sirow | I've to admit, 70 raiding is more fun that 60... |
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| 12:38.09 | abbat-w | Maybe |
| 12:38.10 | mitch0 | I went to maraudon last night to do some of the quests and kill the bosses there. was my first time there ever :) was fun at the beginning but that insta is huge... |
| 12:38.11 | Sirow | 40ppl raid SUCKED |
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| 12:38.15 | Morgh | The raiders, atleast us, are seriously tight compared to the ocean of stuff as 40 :) |
| 12:38.18 | Sole | Morgh: cbf, besides my guild changed raiding times. used to be half aussie/half us and the time was ok for me. now its mainly us and it starts too early |
| 12:38.20 | abbat-w | I like old 40-ppl raids ;) |
| 12:38.28 | Morgh | 'cbf'? |
| 12:38.34 | Sole | cant be fucked |
| 12:38.37 | Morgh | Ah ;) |
| 12:38.43 | Sole | its a bit of a commitment |
| 12:38.50 | Sole | and Im sporadic in what I do |
| 12:38.51 | Codayus | I'm finding 25 man raiding (post 2.1) a lot more fun than I found 40 man raiding. OTOH, we didn't get to Naxx which I've heard was a lot of fun... |
| 12:39.07 | Sole | naxx was fun |
| 12:39.07 | Morgh | I thought Naxx sucked, but I hate undeads, so eh.. :P |
| 12:39.15 | Sole | naxx was too long imo |
| 12:39.23 | abbat-w | naxx it's a best inst what i see in game |
| 12:39.24 | Sirow | God, i HATED AQ >_< |
| 12:39.27 | Sole | I disliked AQ |
| 12:39.31 | Morgh | I loved AQ! :O |
| 12:39.31 | abbat-w | don't see new 25-man inst |
| 12:39.43 | abbat-w | aq40 have nice music btw ;) |
| 12:39.46 | Morgh | *slaps everyone* AQ rocked! >:| |
| 12:39.50 | abbat-w | but i don't see c'thun |
| 12:39.53 | Codayus | I liked BWL in 1.0 fairlywell, but 25 man raiding is a blast. Well...post-Gruul. The T4 content is...bleh. |
| 12:39.55 | Sirow | I hate bugs >_> |
| 12:39.57 | abbat-w | we finish aq40 after twins |
| 12:40.01 | Morgh | I love bugs \o/ |
| 12:40.16 | Sole | what happens when you have 5 guilds competing for first nef kill on horde side? these are all powerhouse guilds btw |
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| 12:40.22 | Morgh | C'Thun must be the hardest encounter in the game ^^ |
| 12:40.22 | si-m1 | AQ20 Starship Troopers edition |
| 12:40.36 | Sole | and then 1 guild gets it 3 weeks before the second one |
| 12:40.37 | abbat-w | and after naxx i finish raiding completly. no raiding in tbc for me |
| 12:40.40 | Sole | EDRAMA! |
| 12:40.45 | abbat-w | it's take toooooo much time |
| 12:40.54 | Codayus | Mmm, I can understand the burnout issue. |
| 12:41.07 | Morgh | Sirow: In layman's terms, what's happening to Avion? I'm slightly confused about it's purpose. |
| 12:41.20 | Codayus | My guild has always been very casual. :-) |
| 12:41.50 | Sole | I gotta say, I got a lot of pleasure from seeing the elitist guilds reactions after we killed nef and they were still on chrom. Half of them couldn't swallow it. ^_^ |
| 12:42.04 | Morgh | hahaha |
| 12:42.09 | Sole | and we got a lokamir on the first kill |
| 12:42.15 | abbat-w | ;) |
| 12:42.18 | Sole | pretty much shazzamed them in the face |
| 12:42.23 | [Ammo] | tsk |
| 12:42.29 | evl_ | Morgh: ugh, Kael isn't too easy either :( |
| 12:42.29 | [Ammo] | epeen comparison |
| 12:42.30 | Sole | ammo knows what Im talking about |
| 12:42.37 | abbat-w | heh... i remember our first lokamir, first sosf, mushandire head... |
| 12:42.39 | abbat-w | kek |
| 12:42.39 | Sirow | Rewriting it as library, one core (handels the animation itsself) and one options lib (handles animation data, with SharedMedia and such, this part is optional). |
| 12:42.43 | [Ammo] | I don't we never got first kills |
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| 12:42.44 | Sole | My epeen was at its highest erection point then |
| 12:42.49 | Morgh | evl_: Yeah, Kael's damned hard |
| 12:42.52 | [Ammo] | we go slow and deep |
| 12:42.59 | Sole | oh god |
| 12:43.02 | [Ammo] | hahahaha |
| 12:43.30 | Sole | by the way Ammo |
| 12:43.31 | Codayus | I don't think my guild has ever had a server first 10 kill. *shrug* But we have a lot of fun, and that's the point in the end... |
| 12:43.41 | Sole | one time we had an argument and I called your guild's rogues bad |
| 12:43.47 | Sirow | Codayus: yup |
| 12:43.54 | Sole | I take that back, I cant judge their skill without seeing them play |
| 12:43.59 | [Ammo] | Sole: don't say it again, evl_ and punkie might kill you :p |
| 12:44.09 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 12:44.13 | Morgh | Sirow: What does that mean to the end-user that expected a Power Auras replacement? |
| 12:44.20 | [Ammo] | well evl_ and punkie are now our top rogues |
| 12:44.21 | Sole | [Ammo]: evl and punkie are the rogues? |
| 12:44.27 | evl_ | Sole: I could outdps you with my left nut :P |
| 12:44.27 | Sole | haha |
| 12:44.28 | [Ammo] | naah those used to be others |
| 12:44.33 | Sole | evl_: bullshit |
| 12:44.40 | [Ammo] | currentl evl and punkie are my rogue homies |
| 12:44.47 | Codayus | Hmm, do I smell an incoming inner-platform effect? :-) |
| 12:44.48 | [Ammo] | careful not to turn your back on em |
| 12:44.55 | evl_ | Sole: haha, armory or it didn' thappen |
| 12:45.05 | abbat-w | Punkie - top rogue? :) |
| 12:45.08 | Sole | evl_: son I was killing rag when you were still trying to do BRD |
| 12:45.10 | abbat-w | and evl also.... |
| 12:45.11 | abbat-w | omg |
| 12:45.18 | Sole | I stopped playing my rogue seriously |
| 12:45.22 | Sole | my armory doesnt count |
| 12:45.25 | evl_ | Sole: I had 5 level 60 rogues when TBC came out son. |
| 12:45.29 | Sirow | Morph: Long waiting time, I guess >_> |
| 12:45.29 | Sirow | Still not completely sure IF I'm going to write something that uses AvionLib or if I hope Parrot or SCT are going to use it... |
| 12:45.29 | Sole | so I shitalk whoever I want |
| 12:45.41 | Sole | evl_: 5 rogues means youre a good ebay/china |
| 12:45.50 | [Ammo] | I'll just AOE deathcoil and all your 5 rogues are no good! |
| 12:45.55 | Sole | =[ |
| 12:46.01 | Neebler | sirow is here! yaaay. thanks for releasing Avion! |
| 12:46.03 | evl_ | Nah, one US beta, one us retail, one eu beta and one eu retail horde and finally one eu retail alliance D: |
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| 12:46.19 | Sole | wtf doesnt count |
| 12:46.31 | Neebler | I messed around with it for about an hour yesterday and read the readme and wiki. But couldn't figure out how to make an animation go off on an event |
| 12:46.48 | Morghus | Sirow: Ok ^^ |
| 12:46.50 | Sole | Is avion = PowerAuras2? |
| 12:46.59 | [Ammo] | sometihng like that yeah sole |
| 12:47.04 | [Ammo] | at least same feature |
| 12:47.04 | Sole | ooh |
| 12:47.15 | Sole | PA had some interesting ideas |
| 12:47.25 | Morghus | PA is brilliant. |
| 12:47.26 | Sole | implementation wasnt too hot though I thought |
| 12:47.26 | evl_ | I can' |
| 12:47.27 | Sirow | Neebler: That part was removed. Why always add feature if you can remove them *kidding* No seriously, I'm rewriting it ;) |
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| 12:47.42 | evl_ | I can't run many addons, they would get in the way of my huge yellow crit texts. |
| 12:48.02 | Health | :D |
| 12:48.02 | Morghus | evl_: My crits are bigger than yours! |
| 12:48.07 | Sirow | lol |
| 12:48.09 | Sole | this one smart guy once said "a designer knows his job is done when he can no longer find anything to remove" |
| 12:48.16 | evl_ | That's me |
| 12:48.23 | evl_ | I do a small dance everytime I nuke an addon or a library |
| 12:48.30 | Sole | so never? |
| 12:48.45 | Sole | I cant say much, Ive only contributed to 2 addons myself -_- |
| 12:48.46 | evl_ | and for addons that are basically very little funcionality and 90% fancy gui crap I just roll my own |
| 12:49.00 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r48525 10Grid/Grid/ (Grid.toc GridCore.lua GridLocale-zhTW.lua): Grid: (branch) merge change from trunk. |
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| 12:49.36 | evl_ | I believe linux has shown that most of the time you're better off confing shit in a text file :) |
| 12:50.14 | Morghus | Sirow: Personally I'm really eager to see what you'll make of Avion as you go. PA's a brilliant addon :) |
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| 12:50.34 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48526 10Ace3/ (Ace3.toc AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua): |
| 12:50.34 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - AceDB-3.0: |
| 12:50.34 | CIA-22 | - added support for '**' |
| 12:50.34 | CIA-22 | - added AceDB-3.0 to the .toc |
| 12:50.57 | Morghus | Flashing a huge DANGER in my face every time I get Static Charge on Vashj or whatever is just pure gold <3 |
| 12:51.49 | Sole | I can totaly see someone importing a penis.tga and using it as a warning sign to depict "YOURE FUCKED NOW" |
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| 12:52.12 | Sole | It'l happen |
| 12:53.12 | Morghus | haha |
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| 12:54.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lol Sole |
| 12:54.42 | Sole | anyway Im gonna go sleep |
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| 12:54.54 | Sole | I sat through 6 hours total of exams today |
| 12:55.00 | Sole | brain tired = true |
| 12:55.10 | Nickenyfiken | That sucks |
| 12:55.12 | Sole | c wut I did thur? |
| 12:55.23 | Chompers | did you write anything down? |
| 12:55.27 | Sole | well 3 hrs + 1 hr break -> 3 hrs |
| 12:55.34 | Sole | yeah I almost finished both of em |
| 12:55.34 | Nickenyfiken | Once I had two 5 hours exams in one day |
| 12:55.40 | Sole | ouch |
| 12:56.03 | Sole | how do you prepare yourself for something so painful? |
| 12:56.21 | Nickenyfiken | Put whiskey in the coffee |
| 12:56.40 | Sole | haha |
| 12:56.42 | Sirow | *takes notes* |
| 12:57.05 | Sole | the guy next to me just put his head down and tried to sleep for a good 30 minutes |
| 12:58.19 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 12:58.20 | Neebler | practice stupid pen tricks, such as the 'wheelbarrel' and 'drummer' |
| 12:58.29 | Sole | lol |
| 12:58.37 | Sole | I brang 4 pens with me |
| 12:59.02 | Sole | its amazing how many shapes you can form with 4 lines |
| 12:59.12 | Codayus | Hmm, I fell asleep in an exam before. I didn't erm...do to well on that one. |
| 12:59.24 | Sole | lol |
| 12:59.34 | Sole | half way through? |
| 12:59.44 | Codayus | A bit sooner, actually. |
| 12:59.50 | Sole | nice |
| 13:00.16 | Codayus | Arrived late, poked at the paper a bit, napped for an hour or so, looked at it again, it STILL didn't make any sense, so I left. |
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| 13:00.27 | Sole | in a previous exam I spent 2 hours doing 1 paper..drifting in/out of sleep almost then I realized I had 1 hour to do 3 other papers |
| 13:00.30 | CIA-22 | 03rophy 07Alpha * r48527 10Ace3/tests/ (6 files): Ace3 - adding some simple tests as a start. |
| 13:00.35 | Codayus | In retrospect, I was really retarded back then. :-/ |
| 13:00.43 | Sole | lol you sound like my buddy |
| 13:00.49 | Sole | hes the one who went to sleep |
| 13:01.06 | Codayus | I also showed up to an exam with a heavy math component without a calculator... |
| 13:01.18 | Sole | after it he just "I looked at it, did the basic questions, read the hard questions and realized I didnt know wtf they wanted so I went to sleep" |
| 13:02.07 | Nickenyfiken | rofl |
| 13:02.25 | Sole | I guess you didnt do too well on that one either? |
| 13:02.31 | Codayus | And I also got a C in a class without ever showing up to class, finding out where the class met, doing the assignemnts, finding out what the textbook was, showing up to the lab, ever setting eyes on the professor, etc. I can't quite decide if that's kind of impressive, or really really stupid. Maybe both at once? |
| 13:03.27 | Sole | so you applied for a class |
| 13:03.27 | Sole | NEVER went to it |
| 13:03.28 | Sole | and got a C in your exam? |
| 13:03.28 | Codayus | I tried to go to class the first day, got lost, and gave up... The final was only a part of the grade - there was a lab component, homework, etc. |
| 13:03.49 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 13:03.54 | Sole | sounds like you cared |
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| 13:04.20 | Codayus | Umm...I was young and stupid? |
| 13:04.37 | kenlyric | that's impressive, since many college classes don't make your exams worth enough to pass. |
| 13:04.48 | kenlyric | that's how I failed math my freshman year of college. |
| 13:05.02 | kenlyric | 98% average on exams, 0% on homework and quizzes. |
| 13:05.12 | Codayus | This was at University of Canterbury, in NZ - they tend to weight exams very highly. Not sure if that's a UoC thing, a NZ thing, or what. |
| 13:05.17 | Sole | sounds like bullshit |
| 13:05.26 | Sole | amg another NZer |
| 13:05.34 | Sole | how is canterbury? |
| 13:05.35 | Codayus | Another? |
| 13:05.37 | Codayus | Wha? |
| 13:05.50 | Sole | that makes narg, you and myself |
| 13:05.53 | Codayus | Ah. |
| 13:06.10 | Sole | how is uni of canterbury? |
| 13:06.18 | Codayus | I didn't like it much. In hindsight, it was 90% my fault. Maybe more. |
| 13:06.45 | sag_ich_nicht | stopped not sleeping, cladhaire? |
| 13:06.55 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 13:06.55 | Sole | Im gonna take a wild guess and assume you took engineering |
| 13:06.58 | cladhaire | i tried to go back to bed |
| 13:07.04 | Codayus | Would you believe Comp Sci? |
| 13:07.14 | Sole | software engineering |
| 13:07.20 | Sole | Im still right |
| 13:07.28 | Fisker- | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/107.html <-end of dicussion regarding quests like collecting Murloc Heads |
| 13:07.47 | Codayus | Failed a bunch of classes, said "wtf am I doing", and transferred schools, changed degres (TO engineering, oddly) and did a bit better. |
| 13:08.01 | Codayus | Apparently showing up to classes and turning assignments in helps. Who knew?! |
| 13:08.31 | kenlyric | yeah, it's a miracle :) |
| 13:08.42 | Sole | screenshot or it didnt happen |
| 13:08.45 | kenlyric | I was also a comp sci major my freshman year. |
| 13:08.47 | Nickenyfiken | Fisker-: hahaha |
| 13:08.56 | Sole | Im thinking of taking an engineering degree |
| 13:08.58 | kenlyric | Then I switched to english and got a job in the computer labs. |
| 13:09.04 | Sole | how are/did you find it Codayus? |
| 13:09.13 | Codayus | I think I left Canterbury with a GPA of ummm 1.4 or so. Ended up starting over, and graduated with a 4.0 GPA. |
| 13:09.25 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48528 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 13:09.25 | CIA-22 | AceDB-3.0 - AceDB |
| 13:09.25 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.37 | kenlyric | I decided that my professional and academic interests didn't need to coincide. |
| 13:10.17 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 13:10.31 | Codayus | Lab reports suck SO much it destroys most of the fun of engineering. |
| 13:10.38 | CIA-22 | 03cladhaire 07Alpha * r48529 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: |
| 13:10.38 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - AceDB |
| 13:10.38 | CIA-22 | - Added Id to svn:keywords |
| 13:10.45 | Sole | great |
| 13:11.04 | Sole | which discipline did you study? |
| 13:11.08 | Codayus | Telecoms |
| 13:11.18 | Sole | funky |
| 13:11.29 | Codayus | Ended up picking up a minor in managemnt...and that turned out to be a lot of fun too. |
| 13:11.48 | Sole | did you transfer to another NZ Uni? |
| 13:11.56 | Codayus | US, actually. |
| 13:12.06 | Codayus | Just got back to NZ um...about 10 days ago. |
| 13:12.18 | Sole | visiting or relocated? |
| 13:12.24 | Morghus | My mule's inventory is chock full again. I need to start selling stuff >< |
| 13:12.27 | Codayus | Where, US or NZ? |
| 13:12.31 | Sole | nz |
| 13:12.35 | Codayus | Relocated. |
| 13:13.01 | Codayus | And now I need to find a job... bleh. |
| 13:13.05 | Sole | =\ |
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| 13:13.49 | Codayus | Where in NZ are you Sole? |
| 13:14.01 | Sole | Im just off my uni years so forgive the stupid question but whats the difference between comp sci and software engineering? |
| 13:14.03 | Sole | Codayus: Auck |
| 13:14.09 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5SYXfJXfmi8 :D |
| 13:14.12 | Codayus | Booo! |
| 13:14.17 | Codayus | <-- Wellington. :-) |
| 13:14.26 | Sole | Codayus: narg is in welly :P |
| 13:14.53 | Sole | Codayus: you 2 should date |
| 13:15.00 | Sole | s/date/mate/ |
| 13:15.10 | Sole | err meet |
| 13:15.12 | Codayus | Anyhow, um...bear in mind I was mostly asleep at the time...but... Comp sci is mostly math. Lots of stuff on algorithms, data structures, automata, turing machines, LOTS of math. |
| 13:15.44 | Codayus | Occasionally you get a more practical course on compilers or something, but mostly its theoretical, or it was at Canterbury. |
| 13:15.57 | Codayus | We had one class on software engineering. |
| 13:16.21 | Sole | so you learn theories behind how shit works |
| 13:16.48 | Sole | and do lots of maths |
| 13:16.59 | Codayus | Yeah. |
| 13:17.11 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r48530 10AloftPresets/Stylpe.lua: |
| 13:17.11 | CIA-22 | AloftPresets |
| 13:17.11 | CIA-22 | - Updated Styple tags |
| 13:17.12 | Codayus | And then on accasional class on database design, or whatever. |
| 13:18.13 | Codayus | In retrospect, cool stuff. At the time, it didn't seem as important as Counterstrike. |
| 13:18.18 | kenlyric | topscorefu has an option to take a screenshot when you get a new top score. Does such a thing exist for when you level? |
| 13:18.25 | Sole | lol |
| 13:18.41 | Codayus | kenlyric: I used to run a mod that did that....name escapes me. |
| 13:18.49 | Sole | maths is interesting though |
| 13:18.53 | Sole | if you dont give up |
| 13:19.02 | Sole | otherwise you just get lost and give up |
| 13:19.10 | Sole | hang on thats a loop |
| 13:19.16 | kenlyric | error, file not found. |
| 13:19.43 | Recluse | D= did they just wipe on the first ony trash pull?! |
| 13:19.56 | Sirow | jep, they pulled to mobs ^^ |
| 13:19.57 | Sole | hey that thing was big ok? |
| 13:20.06 | Sirow | *two |
| 13:20.10 | Sole | oh not talking about my guild? |
| 13:20.20 | Sole | erm nevermidn |
| 13:20.23 | Recluse | lol |
| 13:20.29 | Codayus | It is. In fact, I'd kinda like to get a degree in math...but another 3 years or whatever? Bleh. |
| 13:20.30 | Sirow | lol, nope, its about Fiskers vid :D |
| 13:20.54 | Codayus | I've spent too long as a student. :-/ |
| 13:21.22 | Sole | Im just kidding, my guild used to fight 3 of the ony guardians at once to speed it up true story |
| 13:21.34 | kenlyric | Sirow: that's sad. |
| 13:21.43 | kenlyric | you shouldn't wipe at level 60 with two trash mobs |
| 13:21.51 | kenlyric | even noobs |
| 13:21.59 | Sole | Codayus: you sound like youve enjoyed otago during your student years |
| 13:22.09 | Codayus | Otago? |
| 13:22.09 | Sirow | <-- Priest, worse than a noob |
| 13:22.10 | Neebler | I 3 manned three onyxia guards at once with a feraltank/paladin/warlock(me) .. but thats at level 70 :P |
| 13:22.45 | Sole | Codayus: otago uni ..I hear they just party pretty much |
| 13:22.55 | Neebler | doing onyxia with 3 experienced people is pretty profitable |
| 13:23.18 | [Ammo] | travelling time sucks though |
| 13:23.19 | evl_ | So is speculating AH, except it takes a fraction of the tiem |
| 13:23.33 | [Ammo] | speculating the AH requires a money base |
| 13:23.37 | Sole | Codayus: of course youre older and wiser now so youre not elligible for wasting your time anymore |
| 13:23.55 | evl_ | [Ammo]: i've made 750~g since thursday and I started with 200g base |
| 13:24.07 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 13:24.08 | [Ammo] | nice |
| 13:24.13 | evl_ | or rather 750-200 :) |
| 13:24.14 | Sole | doesnt make your dps any higher |
| 13:24.20 | [Ammo] | well I suck at speculating AH |
| 13:24.21 | Codayus | Sole: Meh. At Canterbury I was terribly antisocial. Talked to nobody, did nothing, never drank, had no friends. Sad, if you're GOING to flunk out of uni, you should at least have fun doing it. Then when I decided to actually pay attention, I was too busy to party. :-/ |
| 13:24.29 | evl_ | Sole: sure it does, I used the first profits to buy Swiftstrike bracers :P |
| 13:24.57 | Sole | Codayus: =\ |
| 13:25.32 | Sole | evl_: ok it increases your dps but you dont have shit on me |
| 13:25.49 | evl_ | Sole: you can't dps with your NZ latency anyway |
| 13:25.55 | kenlyric | what does older and wiser have to do with wasting time? |
| 13:25.56 | mitch0 | evl: any tips for a poor beginner about AH jugling? :) |
| 13:26.10 | Recluse | i'm no good at working the ah. i farm herb/ore enmasse for profits |
| 13:26.13 | kenlyric | I've cultivated my life and position around the maximum waste. |
| 13:26.19 | Codayus | Signs your course load may be a bit high: The third time a professor or someone in admin doues a double take and says "you're taking HOW many credits?!" |
| 13:26.46 | evl_ | 1. Install Auctioneer 2. Read tutorials 3. Grow brain 4. Profit |
| 13:26.52 | Sole | kenlyric: by wasting time I mean students at otago drink/party their time away without doing much studying and since hes past his student years hes not gonna go there |
| 13:27.05 | kenlyric | he could, but it would be creepy |
| 13:27.10 | Sole | lol |
| 13:27.21 | kenlyric | blah blah blah stay the same age etc. |
| 13:27.24 | mitch0 | evl: how much online time does it require? will it work if I log in once a week? :) |
| 13:27.42 | evl_ | mitch0: I use 10-15 minutes before and after raids. |
| 13:27.49 | Sole | evl_: NZ latency is only 300-500 mkay? I can still stab a bitch |
| 13:28.24 | mitch0 | might give it a try then |
| 13:28.30 | Sole | ok goodnight |
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| 13:35.31 | Josh_Borke | mitch0: do you fail at correct channels? |
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| 13:39.12 | vhaarr | HAI GUISE |
| 13:39.24 | vhaarr | Finally got an internet connection at my new place |
| 13:39.39 | Josh_Borke | vhaarr: hai rabbit |
| 13:39.42 | Grum | nooooooes |
| 13:39.44 | Josh_Borke | how's the new place? |
| 13:39.48 | mitch0 | erm, there was some talk about waterfall/dewdrop supporting multi-controls-per-line (like, a checkbox, a slider and a color picker all in one line). has anything happened to that? or was the result something like "use WF directly"? |
| 13:39.56 | mitch0 | josh: indeed I do :) |
| 13:39.57 | [Ammo] | hey rabbit |
| 13:39.59 | vhaarr | hi josh |
| 13:40.03 | vhaarr | ammo |
| 13:40.05 | vhaarr | it's nice |
| 13:40.09 | vhaarr | I live downtown now |
| 13:40.12 | vhaarr | close to everything |
| 13:40.21 | Josh_Borke | cool |
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| 13:40.51 | vhaarr | I hope I didn't reemerge between a rock and a hard place here |
| 13:41.10 | mitch0 | josh: are you playing wow on fbsd? :) |
| 13:41.13 | [Ammo] | haha nice pun rabbit |
| 13:41.17 | vhaarr | :P |
| 13:41.40 | Josh_Borke | mitch0: no. i manage fbsd servers |
| 13:42.19 | vhaarr | so, any new addons I should keep my eye on? |
| 13:42.37 | [Ammo] | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace3/Alpha :p |
| 13:43.13 | [Ammo] | and possibly Rock |
| 13:43.29 | vhaarr | I'll log onto wow and see what's left of my guild first |
| 13:43.29 | [Ammo] | and check out jira.wowace.com |
| 13:43.31 | Josh_Borke | vhaarr: TimeBlock :-D |
| 13:43.46 | vhaarr | Josh_Borke: on wowace? |
| 13:43.49 | mitch0 | paper and scissors are coming soon |
| 13:43.59 | Josh_Borke | vhaarr: naw, on wowi :-P |
| 13:44.05 | vhaarr | gah |
| 13:45.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke |
| 13:45.24 | sag_ich_nicht | so basicially you rewrote Clock from Cosmos? |
| 13:45.47 | sag_ich_nicht | because the block itself looks 100% the same. :P |
| 13:46.13 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: basically, except i had no idea about the cosmos block |
| 13:46.24 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: but you can set the format string for the clock! |
| 13:47.09 | sag_ich_nicht | you can do that with Clock, too. :P |
| 13:47.16 | Josh_Borke | well this i did not know! |
| 13:47.16 | sag_ich_nicht | another redundant addon, HELLYEAH |
| 13:47.25 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: really it's just my first LegoBlock addon |
| 13:47.34 | Josh_Borke | if you have PerfBlock you can snap them together |
| 13:47.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke well that's great. |
| 13:47.44 | Josh_Borke | :-D |
| 13:48.25 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo] I just have to wait for someone to highlight ckknight again and i will have enough food for months. |
| 13:48.58 | Fisker- | oh wait i forgot |
| 13:49.13 | Fisker- | already found out how to disable Maink Tank targets in oRA2 |
| 13:49.19 | Fisker- | so no need to seduce you into making a toggle |
| 13:49.41 | sag_ich_nicht | alt+click, drag, then rightclick while still holding alt, which will make it magicially show a context menu |
| 13:49.42 | abbat-w | set mt# to 0 |
| 13:49.44 | sag_ich_nicht | retarded. as. hell. |
| 13:49.53 | Fisker- | i know mr. abbat-w |
| 13:50.02 | Fisker- | but i forgot that i know |
| 13:50.12 | abbat-w | i know what you forgot this |
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| 13:50.27 | abbat-w | and i remember you something what you forgot to remember |
| 13:50.37 | Fisker- | :O |
| 13:51.10 | abbat-w | heh |
| 13:51.43 | charon | speaking about oRA2, tried the cooldown monitor yesterday but it keeps forgetting the size setting, is that a known bug or was that my fault? |
| 13:52.20 | charon | (it only ever shows 0% and sizes all new bars 100%; changing the size only changes bars that are already shown) |
| 13:52.41 | [Ammo] | charon: hmm |
| 13:52.43 | abbat-w | someone forgot something ;) |
| 13:52.43 | [Ammo] | checkink |
| 13:52.48 | [Ammo] | still mikk's fuckup |
| 13:52.54 | abbat-w | sure |
| 13:52.59 | abbat-w | it's a mikk |
| 13:53.03 | Josh_Borke | pretty sure it was your choice to use a bad library :-P |
| 13:53.13 | [Ammo] | no |
| 13:53.17 | [Ammo] | mikk forced it upon me |
| 13:53.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke so how about Quartz support for simulcast |
| 13:53.24 | [Ammo] | he's a mental rapist |
| 13:53.39 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: seriously? wtf you use SimulCast? |
| 13:53.44 | Josh_Borke | i thought that thing was used by no one |
| 13:53.46 | Josh_Borke | i don't even use it |
| 13:53.52 | Grum | what is simulcast? O.o |
| 13:53.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i just found it, and i am considering using it |
| 13:54.01 | sag_ich_nicht | if you add support for fukkin quartz |
| 13:54.03 | Josh_Borke | i could look into it |
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| 13:54.25 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 13:54.28 | Josh_Borke | yea, i could probably do it |
| 13:54.29 | sag_ich_nicht | it only works if both have it installed |
| 13:54.30 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 13:54.31 | ag` | for tbl1 = {["apple"] = true, ["pear"] = true} tbl2 = {["pear"] = true, ["apple"] = true} will table3[tbl1] return the same value as table3[tbl2] |
| 13:54.38 | sag_ich_nicht | then it's useless |
| 13:54.45 | kenlyric | hmmmm... there's a mod that annoys everyone around you when you level. I wonder if it takes screenshots too. |
| 13:54.58 | Josh_Borke | they have to have CastCommLib installed in some mod |
| 13:55.01 | Josh_Borke | which includes Grid |
| 13:55.07 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
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| 13:55.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i think there should be a general "sync everything" addon that tries to detect all the mods that support data syncing in some kind used in your raid and then LoDs those that are used... but otoh that kind of bloatware wouldn't be used by anyone. :( |
| 13:55.59 | ag` | anyone? :P |
| 13:56.00 | [Ammo] | charon: fix committed, I think :) |
| 13:56.18 | Grum | ag`: your question doesnt work |
| 13:56.20 | charon | [Ammo]: thanks. will trylater on/during raid :) |
| 13:56.27 | Grum | there is no 'table3' nor 'table1' |
| 13:56.29 | charon | ag`: probably not since tables are indexed by reference |
| 13:56.40 | nevcairiel | ag`: no it wont work, likec haron said, references |
| 13:56.40 | [Ammo] | ag`: no |
| 13:56.45 | ag` | okay |
| 13:56.47 | ag` | hrm |
| 13:56.49 | [Ammo] | ag`: different function pointer |
| 13:56.55 | [Ammo] | which you use as a key |
| 13:57.15 | ag` | different function pointer? |
| 13:57.20 | charon | indexing by value would be silly since that "value" can change, and you can't have changing equality (= hash values) in hash tables, i'm afraid |
| 13:57.23 | Grum | humz you could make it work using metatables likely O.o |
| 13:57.27 | [Ammo] | function/table pointer |
| 13:57.39 | sag_ich_nicht | metatables are the devil |
| 13:57.55 | ag` | so it reads the table pointer when you use a table as a key |
| 13:57.57 | ag` | okies |
| 13:57.59 | [Ammo] | if you did: tbl1 = {["apple"] = true, ["pear"] = true} tbl2 = tbl1 then your result would work |
| 13:58.01 | charon | (if you read up on how hash tables work it will become very clear) |
| 13:58.12 | Grum | yup |
| 13:58.14 | sag_ich_nicht | metatables are so evil that they break secure code. |
| 13:58.28 | Grum | but you can use metatables to fix that sag_ich_nicht |
| 13:58.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum ssssh |
| 13:58.48 | ag` | [Ammo], the thing is I do some stuff for tables like {["apple"] = true, ["pear"] = true}, and I want to cache the results |
| 13:59.32 | Grum | ag`: could i ask why you would use such a data-structure? |
| 13:59.48 | Grum | why not just send: 'apple', 'pear' as arguments? |
| 14:00.51 | Grum | charon: the performance impact is *HUGE* especially if your function is called zillion times a second |
| 14:01.58 | charon | somehow i think i'd need a flame suit for this, but other languages simply have a "kind of list" that is immutable, hence has constant hash value, hence can be used to index hashes by value |
| 14:02.13 | charon | multiple returns don't work for that. no i don't have a fix, unfortunately |
| 14:02.40 | charon | ag`: perhaps you could cache using a two-deep table structure, first level indexed by apple, second by pear |
| 14:03.01 | Grum | charon: do you know what he is trying to accomplish? |
| 14:03.02 | ag` | charon, then what happens if I get pear first and then apple |
| 14:03.17 | Grum | ag`: what are you making? |
| 14:03.24 | charon | ag`: i mean like table3[tbl1["apple"]][tbl2["pear"]] |
| 14:03.44 | ag` | let me write down what I'm doing |
| 14:03.51 | kenlyric | seriously, windows still can't natively map to webdrive? that's crazy |
| 14:04.00 | charon | Grum: he said he was trying to cache by some small tables. not any better than anyone in here i guess. |
| 14:04.00 | kenlyric | webdav, even |
| 14:04.22 | Grum | charon: the reason why might be scary or an eyeopener to another way to doing it |
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| 14:05.59 | ag` | I'm creating a system where the user can select from a few functions, like "health", "mana", "name", "class" etc. I then send a table containing the user selection (could be {["health"] = true, ["name"] = true} to a function |
| 14:06.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: is that actually still(you know what i mean) or did they fix it in 2.1.3? |
| 14:06.25 | sag_ich_nicht | s/still/still in/ |
| 14:06.30 | Grum | ok why not send a table: { "health", "name" } ? |
| 14:06.37 | ag` | Grum, it's the same :) |
| 14:06.41 | ag` | I guess |
| 14:06.42 | Grum | it's not |
| 14:06.45 | ag` | ah yes |
| 14:06.51 | Grum | it is a world of difference |
| 14:06.51 | ag` | it's indexed by number |
| 14:07.05 | ag` | but how would that help me even |
| 14:07.19 | Grum | just fixes a stupidness in the interface |
| 14:07.27 | Grum | so, now what? you want to return something else? |
| 14:07.33 | Grum | and cache that? |
| 14:07.37 | ag` | yes |
| 14:07.42 | Grum | based on 'the information you want' ? |
| 14:08.07 | Grum | ok why not: have a static cache hash from which the function you request from reads and that gets updated in the background (or when a certain time has transpired) |
| 14:08.24 | ag` | I guess a hash could be used |
| 14:08.26 | Grum | and store it in a table like: "health" => value |
| 14:08.34 | Grum | and s/hash/table |
| 14:08.40 | Grum | perl-in-my-fingers ;D |
| 14:08.47 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r48531 10lern2count/Core.lua: lern2count: profide early exits to the updating loops |
| 14:08.47 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48532 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0/AceEvent-3.0.lua: Ace3 - fixed syntax error |
| 14:08.55 | [Ammo] | oh dear CIA-22 is catching up |
| 14:08.59 | Grum | and just return the 'indexes' you get from the list you send |
| 14:09.23 | ag` | well Grum, lets say I send { "health", "name" } and cache the results |
| 14:09.47 | Grum | what will be returned? the health? or frames? or structures with health from every person? or strings with descriptions? |
| 14:10.00 | ag` | I return a function |
| 14:10.27 | Grum | what would that function do? :) |
| 14:10.56 | ag` | let me do a pastey |
| 14:10.58 | Recluse | depends on what's sent in, from what i gathered XD |
| 14:11.00 | Grum | pl0x |
| 14:11.15 | Grum | yes but that is silly - to return a function for that (well .. it might) |
| 14:12.13 | ag` | Grum, http://wowace.pastey.net/73669 |
| 14:12.32 | ag` | this stuff works atm |
| 14:12.33 | vhaarr | hey ag` |
| 14:12.35 | ag` | but it sucks |
| 14:12.38 | ag` | vhaarr, hey |
| 14:12.39 | Grum | oef |
| 14:12.57 | ag` | Grum, the interesting part is aUF:FormatString |
| 14:13.41 | Grum | god that call looks horrible |
| 14:13.46 | ag` | yes |
| 14:13.50 | ag` | that's why I want help |
| 14:13.52 | ag` | :P |
| 14:13.57 | Grum | what would be 'dbTable'? |
| 14:14.07 | Grum | oh |
| 14:14.10 | Grum | what you just said O.o |
| 14:14.28 | [dRaCo] | what you say! |
| 14:14.34 | ag` | It could be table like {["level"] = true,["class"]=true} |
| 14:14.35 | Wobin_ | Ha ha ha |
| 14:14.46 | ag` | you are on your way to destruction |
| 14:14.52 | Recluse | lol |
| 14:14.58 | ag` | you have no chance to survive make your time |
| 14:15.09 | Wobin_ | Ha ha ha ha ha ha |
| 14:15.11 | Grum | someone set us up teh bomb! |
| 14:15.27 | ag` | for great justice |
| 14:15.33 | ag` | take off every zig |
| 14:15.39 | Grum | take off every zig |
| 14:15.40 | Grum | lolx |
| 14:15.57 | ag` | Grum, anyway you give FormatString a table like {["level"] = true,["class"]=true} |
| 14:16.10 | ag` | it will the return a function |
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| 14:16.28 | ag` | that function will return UnitLevel and UnitClass |
| 14:17.06 | Grum | why on earth would one do such horrible things! |
| 14:17.39 | ag` | so the user could select which text he wants on his unit frame |
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| 14:17.53 | Grum | i can only say: use dogtag |
| 14:18.07 | cladhaire | or go back to the watchdog implementation of the same |
| 14:18.35 | ag` | I'm trying to do something where the user simply checks what he wants |
| 14:18.41 | ag` | instead of parsing a string |
| 14:19.00 | cladhaire | ah, thats fun |
| 14:19.08 | cladhaire | but whey not leave the backend the same |
| 14:19.09 | Grum | well in that case build a 'dogtag' editor which shows the possiblities of the tag you have written down |
| 14:19.13 | cladhaire | and construct a string based on what they checked. |
| 14:19.22 | Grum | yeah seems even easier :D |
| 14:19.28 | Grum | just build a dogtag from some selections =D |
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| 14:20.37 | ag` | some of it is the same |
| 14:20.51 | ag` | but I'm trying to make it cache it based on what's in the table |
| 14:21.17 | ag` | guess I'll just go tinker some more with it |
| 14:21.20 | cladhaire | seems like an unnecessary optimization when the user is the only one who will change the table |
| 14:24.13 | ag` | yes, the old system saves the functions by unit id |
| 14:30.33 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm someone care to post something about the retribution talent vengeance placing you in combat on the suggestions forum or maybe even the PTR forums? it's the same annoyance that bloodrage etc. are causing(which is why THOSE were fixed) |
| 14:30.44 | sag_ich_nicht | eh, wrong channel |
| 14:35.49 | mitch0 | . |
| 14:38.22 | dreamss | bloodrage was done on purpuse |
| 14:38.41 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss it's being changed in 2.2.... |
| 14:38.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2read |
| 14:38.46 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 14:38.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i drive home now |
| 14:38.50 | sag_ich_nicht | bb |
| 14:38.54 | dreamss | heh |
| 14:39.01 | dreamss | u talking about like it was a bug |
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| 14:39.19 | sag_ich_nicht | no, i'm talking about it like it was a damn annoyance from hell |
| 14:39.22 | sag_ich_nicht | which it is. |
| 14:39.23 | dreamss | l2heal? :P |
| 14:39.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2DIAF |
| 14:39.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart dreamss |
| 14:39.34 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of dreamss |
| 14:39.39 | sag_ich_nicht | bb |
| 14:39.41 | kenlyric | the internets are dumb. how is it that I still just can't map a computer drive to a network folder and be done with it? without a stupid proprietary application. |
| 14:39.43 | dreamss | wasent an anoyance for warriors, it was a tool |
| 14:39.48 | dreamss | dont be stupid |
| 14:43.22 | CIA-22 | 03borlox * r48539 10CombatDnd/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 14:43.22 | CIA-22 | CombatDnd: |
| 14:43.23 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW local (thanks whocare) |
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| 14:57.00 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: hi |
| 14:58.37 | mitch0 | kenlyric: there should be some opensource webdav clients out there |
| 14:59.52 | mitch0 | hrmp. seems our proxy died again :( |
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| 15:04.47 | Shirik | Hm, anyone remember that addon ..nm |
| 15:04.50 | Shirik | I figured it out |
| 15:04.57 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: glad to hear |
| 15:05.08 | Xinhuan | great! |
| 15:05.15 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.25 | Wobin_ | I was going to be up all night trying to figure it out =P |
| 15:05.46 | durcyn | wonderful news, Shirik. |
| 15:05.50 | Shirik | I hate you all :( |
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| 15:06.18 | nevcairiel | when you start a sentence, and end it with nvm .. press esc instead of enter :o |
| 15:07.13 | Shirik | Esc does nothing |
| 15:07.22 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 15:07.27 | Gnarfoz | indeed, someone's been playing too much wow |
| 15:07.27 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 15:07.30 | Xinhuan | press down button then |
| 15:07.35 | Xinhuan | should clear the text |
| 15:07.41 | Wobin_ | not for me |
| 15:07.43 | Shirik | nope |
| 15:07.50 | Xinhuan | mirc does :) |
| 15:08.15 | Wobin_ | oh it does |
| 15:08.16 | krka_ | l2irssi |
| 15:08.20 | Wobin_ | but only if you move the cursor first |
| 15:08.30 | mitch0 | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/10/1458218 |
| 15:08.31 | Wobin_ | if you're still considered 'typing' it doesn't remove it |
| 15:09.00 | Xinhuan | woo rage winterchill down 1-shot |
| 15:09.07 | Xinhuan | the waves were gayer |
| 15:09.09 | mitch0 | the True Way of clearing the line is of course the kill-line command (default: CTRL-U) |
| 15:09.09 | Xinhuan | than the boss |
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| 15:10.08 | syeren | Xinhuan, welcome to Mount Hyjal? |
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| 15:10.13 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 15:10.16 | mitch0 | that's the keybinding I miss the most when I'm in windows land... |
| 15:10.23 | Xinhuan | i even got the inscribed JC recipe :) |
| 15:13.25 | mitch0 | (sorry for spreading misinformation, it's called discard-line, not kill-line (which is ctrl-k, and clear till the end of the line) |
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| 15:18.27 | Xinhuan | The server at www.wowace.com is taking too long to respond. |
| 15:18.28 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 15:18.30 | Xinhuan | Request timeout |
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| 15:25.22 | kenlyric | refresh it a bunch of times. |
| 15:25.27 | kenlyric | that'll make it load faster. |
| 15:26.57 | Sinaloit | table.insert(table, "String") was throwing an error for me, is there a specific reason I couldn't insert a string directly into a table? |
| 15:27.45 | Fisker- | i hate you Punkie` |
| 15:28.03 | Punkie` | :( |
| 15:28.16 | kenlyric | did blizz stop pushing the preload patch. |
| 15:28.27 | kenlyric | I can't make wow startup the background downloader anymore. |
| 15:29.28 | Punkie` | ~whalestab Fisker- |
| 15:29.29 | purl | ACTION stabs Fisker- with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
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| 15:30.59 | Josh_Borke | ~whaleparry Punkie` |
| 15:30.59 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Punkie`'s attacks. |
| 15:33.55 | Xinhuan | [9/10 23:25:15] <Sinaloit> table.insert(table, "String") was throwing an error for me, is there a specific reason I couldn't insert a string directly into a table? |
| 15:33.59 | Xinhuan | what error is it? |
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| 15:48.07 | Josh_Borke | bye bye |
| 15:48.20 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 15:48.21 | Fisker- | crap |
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| 15:55.11 | sylvanaar | kenlyric you think patch this week? |
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| 15:55.38 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 15:55.59 | kenlyric | i don't think so, but I have no real reason behind that thought. |
| 15:57.45 | Saroz | ffs I need a new mod |
| 15:58.33 | [dRaCo] | a new mod as in? |
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| 16:00.08 | sylvanaar | well, there hasnt been a test realm patch |
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| 16:00.55 | Pkekyo|zZz | g'mornin all |
| 16:02.08 | AmadeoFi | Morning Pburyo! |
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| 16:02.38 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 16:03.09 | Nickenyfiken_ | lalalalalalla |
| 16:03.20 | cncfanatics | thats a great song, Nickenyfiken_ |
| 16:03.37 | Nickenyfiken_ | YES! |
| 16:03.54 | Wobin_ | man, now it's stuck in my head =P |
| 16:05.14 | Pkekyo|zZz | ~seen art3mis |
| 16:05.20 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 652 messages. Is idling for 7h 48m 30s, last said: 'works in xp'. |
| 16:05.20 | cncfanatics | :o yay |
| 16:05.20 | Pkekyo|zZz | art3mis: ping? |
| 16:05.34 | cncfanatics | hmmm, name:ping works too with purl ? |
| 16:05.41 | cncfanatics | Gagorian: ping? |
| 16:05.53 | cncfanatics | oh lol; u did ~seen right above it, nvm |
| 16:05.59 | Pkekyo|zZz | ;> |
| 16:06.32 | Pkekyo|zZz | http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9459/xartjg2.png <--- opinions regarding colours? |
| 16:06.50 | cncfanatics | too bright, i'm more into dark stuff :p |
| 16:07.21 | Pkekyo|zZz | zomg satanist! O.o |
| 16:07.34 | cncfanatics | eh, no |
| 16:07.52 | sag_ich_nicht | http://xkcd.com/314/ win. |
| 16:09.10 | Pkekyo|zZz | s/zomg satanist!/zomg satanist <--- this is a pun!/ |
| 16:16.36 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r48540 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/DemonTrainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Demon trainer localization haxx0rorz... |
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| 16:18.02 | art3mis | morning |
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| 16:20.40 | cncfanatics | amg |
| 16:20.44 | cncfanatics | art3mis you slacker ! |
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| 16:22.39 | Pkekyo | art3mis: hai2u, bored atm? |
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| 16:24.09 | Pkekyo | I'm having problems isolating the remaining art textures |
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| 16:24.39 | art3mis | having a smork, gopnna go shower in a sec, wassup? |
| 16:25.53 | Pkekyo | err |
| 16:26.07 | Pkekyo | for some reason I can't separate the art texture from teh black backdrop |
| 16:26.09 | art3mis | ? |
| 16:26.22 | Pkekyo | tried what I did last night, but can't get it to work properly, it only grabs a fraction of the art |
| 16:26.57 | art3mis | you could try "smart trace" |
| 16:27.08 | art3mis | thats really all i did for gimp |
| 16:27.16 | art3mis | for with |
| 16:27.25 | Pkekyo | anyone know if PS has that function? |
| 16:27.43 | art3mis | thast not the actual command name mind you ;P |
| 16:27.58 | art3mis | its just a trace with a certain selection marked |
| 16:29.04 | Pkekyo | yeah, but I can't recall ever seeing a tracing function in photoshop |
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| 16:34.17 | Fisker- | how do i Punkie` ? |
| 16:35.00 | Fisker- | i has money beyond my wildest expectations |
| 16:35.07 | cncfanatics | Right |
| 16:35.10 | cncfanatics | trolls earn money now ? |
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| 16:36.01 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:38.46 | cncfanatics | meh, bored |
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| 16:41.17 | zeeg | Yo, if any of you use the ticket system on Curse I pushed some updates this morning to make functionality a little better |
| 16:41.27 | Lothaer | good morning |
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| 16:41.56 | Hjalte | Antiarc, someone uploaded Omen to wowui... |
| 16:42.05 | Lothaer | yeah i noticed that |
| 16:42.10 | Lothaer | i made a post |
| 16:42.16 | Lothaer | i dont think its the actual author |
| 16:42.26 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r48541 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): |
| 16:42.26 | CIA-22 | sRaidFrames: |
| 16:42.26 | CIA-22 | - Add "Hide in 5 man raids" feature |
| 16:42.26 | CIA-22 | - Handle occations where oRA maintank list contains non-strings, so table.concat throws errors. |
| 16:42.26 | CIA-22 | (Yes, I still hate localization) |
| 16:42.33 | Hjalte | Antiarc is the author of Omen. |
| 16:42.38 | Lothaer | i know |
| 16:42.43 | AmadeoFi | WoW Forum login is unsecure, isn't it? |
| 16:42.45 | Lothaer | i thought maybe Antiarc was taken on wowui |
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| 16:43.13 | art3mis | i dont use curse, the click through ads are asstastic and cheap and annoying as hell. ;) |
| 16:43.31 | Lothaer | lol |
| 16:43.43 | Lothaer | hey can any1 here lend me a hand woth VolumeFu plz |
| 16:44.04 | AmadeoFi | I'm with art3mis |
| 16:44.05 | orionshock | AmadeoFi: i don't think it is |
| 16:44.21 | orionshock | just tried; it's redirects to a secure site and back |
| 16:44.24 | AmadeoFi | orionshock: Well I'm in a hotel with unsecure wireless and I'm paranoid :P |
| 16:44.55 | orionshock | https = encrypted... not alot to worry about |
| 16:45.12 | AmadeoFi | but it doesn't show you on the forum page |
| 16:45.41 | orionshock | right - the actual site recieving the login is secure tho and that's what matters |
| 16:45.47 | AmadeoFi | yeah, thanks :) |
| 16:46.11 | AmadeoFi | I've been itching to reply to some stupid threads :P |
| 16:46.27 | Lothaer | i am trying to send Omen to a mate of mine via hotmail, but hotmail wont attach is says there a virus with Omen!!! |
| 16:47.01 | orionshock | lol |
| 16:47.08 | orionshock | post em' the link |
| 16:47.32 | AmadeoFi | The only way to cleanse yourself after using Hotmail is to go to the page and then immediately set your PC on fire! |
| 16:47.39 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 16:48.04 | cncfanatics | don't use hotmail, as simple as that |
| 16:48.08 | cncfanatics | and why don't u just send him a link to it ? |
| 16:48.16 | cncfanatics | http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip |
| 16:48.19 | AmadeoFi | Hotmail's attachment system is so annoying |
| 16:48.21 | Lothaer | he dosnt like direct downloads meh |
| 16:48.25 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 16:48.33 | cncfanatics | does he realize mail attachments are direct downloads ? |
| 16:48.43 | cncfanatics | everything even a damn webpage is a "direct download" |
| 16:48.43 | Lothaer | i have no idea |
| 16:48.53 | Lothaer | hes paranoid about downloading from websites lol |
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| 16:49.36 | cncfanatics | sigh, he's just an idiot that thinks he knows computer stuff ? |
| 16:49.43 | Lothaer | hell no lol |
| 16:49.57 | Lothaer | just knows enuff to play WoW |
| 16:49.58 | cncfanatics | u download it from the link I gave above, he downloads it from attachments, whats the difference as if he downloaded from the link above directly except u don't waste bandwith ? |
| 16:50.40 | Lothaer | thanks mate |
| 16:50.57 | Lothaer | so ill assume most of u guys are familiar with FuBar LOL |
| 16:51.16 | cncfanatics | yea, even though I don't use it |
| 16:51.24 | Lothaer | same i use Titan myself lol |
| 16:51.29 | Lothaer | anyway |
| 16:51.39 | sylvanaar | anyone use avion? i cant get it to do anything |
| 16:51.54 | AmadeoFi | I thought everyone used FuBar |
| 16:51.56 | Hjalte | sylvanaar, yeah, had the same problem when trying it out earlier. |
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| 16:52.24 | sylvanaar | allright, thats disappointing |
| 16:52.30 | Lothaer | i updated VolumeFu for the PTR i corrected the cVars to make hte normal sound options work i also added support for the Voice Chat options |
| 16:52.53 | cncfanatics | http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2001/07/45681 <--- good old times |
| 16:53.41 | Lothaer | but i cant get the new options to appear via the DewDrops and i need to figure out how to get the microphone volume to goto a max of 250% and a minimum of 25% any1 here able to help??? |
| 16:54.34 | cncfanatics | http://secunia.com/advisories/18255/ <--- good current times |
| 16:54.48 | Lothaer | heres a link to what i have done atm http://files-upload.com/files/488183/FuBar_VolumeFu.zip |
| 16:54.56 | cncfanatics | Lothaer, didn't go on the PTR yet, wish I cld help, but got better stuff to spend my bandwith on unfortunatly |
| 16:55.15 | Lothaer | kk |
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| 16:55.17 | Lothaer | afk |
| 16:57.09 | Lothaer | back |
| 16:57.26 | cncfanatics | oh the love |
| 16:57.40 | cncfanatics | you can take over people's comp with .ani files in windows |
| 16:57.43 | cncfanatics | if they're not patched that is |
| 16:57.56 | nevcairiel | whats .ani? |
| 16:58.07 | cncfanatics | the format windows uses for animated cursors |
| 16:58.17 | cncfanatics | websites can add those, so visiting a website could give a hacker remote control |
| 16:58.18 | cncfanatics | fun |
| 16:58.19 | Lothaer | i thiught windows fixed that |
| 16:58.25 | cncfanatics | they did ofc |
| 16:58.28 | Lothaer | lol |
| 16:58.37 | cncfanatics | "if they're not patched that is" |
| 16:58.47 | cncfanatics | lots of people don't bother with windows update :) |
| 16:58.48 | Lothaer | ROFL i think most peoples would be |
| 16:58.56 | Lothaer | yeah stupid poeple |
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| 16:59.13 | cncfanatics | most people are idiots that think patches are useless |
| 16:59.19 | cncfanatics | i'm one of them, but I don't use windows so :) |
| 16:59.21 | Fisker- | if i could choose any guy i didn't want on raids in my guild i would choose the "It's faster to walk between vendors in Nagrand than it is in Shattrath"-guy |
| 16:59.36 | fixt | Is there some new "automaticly show/hide addons based on events" addon out? I see so many people show UI screens lately where they have addons that toggle based on events |
| 16:59.51 | Fisker- | he went from Shattrath to Nagrand to repair and buy reagents |
| 16:59.52 | Fisker- | i mean WTF |
| 17:00.31 | Lothaer | ROFL |
| 17:00.31 | Fisker- | those 2 npc's are like 5 yards apart in shattrath |
| 17:00.32 | Hjalte | fixt, there's http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7528-OnScreen.html ? |
| 17:00.32 | Lothaer | he needs AtlasMajorCities lol |
| 17:00.50 | cncfanatics | he needs WoWFORIdiots |
| 17:01.20 | Lothaer | Idiots Guide to WoW |
| 17:02.14 | Lothaer | o btw i have to do this |
| 17:02.17 | Lothaer | AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE |
| 17:02.31 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 17:02.38 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 17:02.48 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.50 | Xinhuan | i'm singaporean ;p |
| 17:02.54 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.57 | cncfanatics | wish I could do that ^^ |
| 17:03.01 | Xinhuan | i run an aussie guild :) |
| 17:03.01 | Lothaer | hey CnC what u think fo CnC3???? |
| 17:03.25 | cncfanatics | Lothaer, its not bad |
| 17:03.35 | cncfanatics | I think c&c was better when westwood did it though |
| 17:03.53 | Lothaer | does red = PM? |
| 17:04.10 | cncfanatics | could be, no idea lol |
| 17:04.18 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:04.38 | Lothaer | i just cant wait for a files extractor to come out for it |
| 17:04.57 | Lothaer | i loved editing Tiberian Sun, Red Alert 2, Generals etc |
| 17:05.00 | fixt | thx Hjalte that would work |
| 17:06.26 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, you a picture of your finished UI while using those pictures you do in Photoshop? |
| 17:07.56 | Lothaer | any1 here no a mod called Set Wrangler? |
| 17:08.04 | Pkekyo | hjalte: refering to http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9459/xartjg2.png ? |
| 17:08.11 | Hjalte | Yeah |
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| 17:08.24 | Pkekyo | haven't been able to recolour it all yet |
| 17:08.32 | Pkekyo | http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/299/wowscrnshot090607202248gy4.jpg <---- that's the current version though |
| 17:08.54 | Lothaer | thats a nice set up mate |
| 17:09.11 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 17:09.16 | Pkekyo | I like it :) |
| 17:09.25 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, feel free to share them when you're done ;) |
| 17:09.43 | Lothaer | heres my set up atm http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/MyUI.jpg |
| 17:09.48 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: not sure if I should, as it's not me that've produced the art textures themselves ;> |
| 17:10.23 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 17:10.32 | Pkekyo | Lothaer: how's lunarsphere like? |
| 17:10.33 | cncfanatics | anyone remember the michaelangelo virus from 1992 ? |
| 17:10.34 | Hjalte | Meh. I need some good textures but no-one seems to be able to find any. And no, I can't do anything beautiful in photoshop. |
| 17:10.54 | art3mis | Im in ur porn spreading estds |
| 17:11.05 | Lothaer | LunarSphere is very awsome still in Beta 5 atm but ive been using its original beta release |
| 17:11.07 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: vaguely...why? |
| 17:11.08 | Lothaer | its come a long way |
| 17:11.21 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, I'm doing some research about virusses now, its funny to see all the hypes it caused |
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| 17:11.26 | art3mis | michalangeo was great |
| 17:11.30 | art3mis | so was y2k |
| 17:11.37 | art3mis | awww good times to be a consultant |
| 17:11.57 | art3mis | cncfanatics: dont forget melissa ;) |
| 17:11.58 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: hypes? |
| 17:12.07 | Tinyboom | Lothaer: link to lunarsphere? ;) |
| 17:12.16 | cncfanatics | I turned 4 when michelangelo triggered in 1992 :p |
| 17:12.27 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, most of the computer world flipped |
| 17:12.33 | art3mis | no |
| 17:12.37 | Lothaer | http://www.4shared.com/file/23868820/b8b5f38d/LunarSphere_5009.html |
| 17:12.37 | Pkekyo | but why? |
| 17:12.38 | art3mis | most of the world flipped out |
| 17:12.49 | art3mis | the computer sector kind of giggled and went "meh we're ready" |
| 17:12.58 | Pkekyo | running the risk of repeating myself...why? |
| 17:13.03 | art3mis | and linux people went bahajhahahaha stupid windows losers! |
| 17:13.09 | Lothaer | heres a link to the LunarSphere forums http://moongazeaddons.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=lunarsphere post any ideas or bug reports there |
| 17:13.19 | Pkekyo | art3mis: pretty much the same as the status quo then? ^^ |
| 17:13.23 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo |
| 17:13.24 | cncfanatics | why ? |
| 17:13.27 | cncfanatics | because it was a virus |
| 17:13.28 | cncfanatics | that was made |
| 17:13.34 | cncfanatics | to trigger on michelangelo's birth day |
| 17:13.38 | art3mis | Pkekyo: anti virus back in the day wasnt all that evolved, and a worm or wide spread trojan on the internet could actually mean banks and other financial institutes going off line |
| 17:13.40 | cncfanatics | and kinda, ehm, destroy, your HD on that day |
| 17:14.11 | cncfanatics | art3mis, its harder now , but its still possible to make a virus no antivirus tool will detect |
| 17:14.15 | Lothaer | do you guys have any idea were the pic of my UI was taken??? |
| 17:14.52 | cncfanatics | the only pic I see is a zip file icon |
| 17:15.05 | art3mis | cncfanatics: yup |
| 17:15.22 | cncfanatics | art3mis, i'm 18, and I think I could do it :/ its quite sad tbh |
| 17:15.30 | art3mis | the only reason its harder though is because of the large sample data av companies have now not to mention heuristics |
| 17:15.32 | Lothaer | http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/MyUI.jpg |
| 17:15.40 | Pkekyo | Lothaer: hyjal, dancing troll village...no? |
| 17:15.44 | Lothaer | yup yup |
| 17:16.14 | Lothaer | i can get there and ontop of IF under Sw and Org, Behind the Greymayne wall |
| 17:16.16 | Pkekyo | thought blizz had 'fixed' hyjal? |
| 17:16.18 | cncfanatics | art3mis, some (lots of) stealthing could get around that, no ? |
| 17:16.23 | art3mis | lunarsphere a ripoff/takeoff/fork of sphere? |
| 17:16.27 | Lothaer | its not Hyja; |
| 17:16.37 | Lothaer | NO ITS NOT |
| 17:16.37 | art3mis | cncfanatics: not as much as you'd think |
| 17:16.43 | Lothaer | LunarSphere was out before Sphere |
| 17:16.57 | art3mis | thast why a fair amount of programs and such get tagged a virii when they arent |
| 17:17.09 | art3mis | Lothaer: same dealie though right? |
| 17:17.54 | Lothaer | LunarSphere has loads more options than Sphere was out before Sphere and Sphere even used some code from Sphere |
| 17:18.11 | Lothaer | there was a mass argument about it on the wowace forums |
| 17:18.23 | cncfanatics | art3mis, i'm no virus expert but, how do virus scanners & packet filters actualy work ? |
| 17:18.33 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 17:18.35 | cncfanatics | I can make a basic logic on how they could detect it myself, but nothing advanced |
| 17:18.48 | Lothaer | look at this pic i took http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/me2.jpg |
| 17:19.17 | Pkekyo | Lothaer: wtf you doing up there? |
| 17:19.18 | art3mis | me neither, it works basically on the theory that certain bytes exist or need to exist in all types of virii, by scannign for known types you can "guess" at other newer ones |
| 17:19.39 | Lothaer | pretty cool huh |
| 17:19.46 | art3mis | in the case of email av it scans the entire file looking for signatures that dont belong |
| 17:20.09 | cncfanatics | "basically on the theory that certain bytes exist or need to exist in all types of virii" ain't that bullcrap ? |
| 17:20.14 | art3mis | for live it still only reacts after the virus has been temporarily stored and scanned |
| 17:20.15 | Lothaer | i watch a vid of this mage getting up there but i couldnt do it his way so i figured out a different way following the same path though |
| 17:20.20 | art3mis | it cant deal with partials |
| 17:20.25 | Mech0z | does ag unitframese have a focus target and castbar on targets? |
| 17:20.37 | Lothaer | X-Perl does |
| 17:20.49 | durcyn | as does pitbull |
| 17:21.03 | Mech0z | yes pitbull does as well but I think that might be whats making my wow crash |
| 17:21.08 | JoshBorke | Lothaer: nice job |
| 17:21.09 | art3mis | cncfanatics: not really.. all worms trojans virii behave "roughly" the same way, they do specific things, the ones that go unnoticed or take longer create the bad programs but themselves arent evil per se |
| 17:21.13 | Lothaer | it has Torgets Target, Targets Targets Target Focus's Target |
| 17:21.27 | Lothaer | try X-Perl |
| 17:21.44 | Mech0z | isnt x-perl very performance requireing ? |
| 17:21.50 | Mech0z | and its not ace right? |
| 17:21.50 | Lothaer | no |
| 17:21.54 | Lothaer | no its not |
| 17:21.59 | Lothaer | has a shit load of options though |
| 17:22.00 | art3mis | if youw ere to look at all the trojans that exist, theyll almost all have the same bytecode to open a port to allow access. some may done in a different manner but they will all have it |
| 17:22.08 | Lothaer | just try it |
| 17:22.10 | Mech0z | ok just gotta love acemodupdater :d |
| 17:22.17 | Pkekyo | does anyone still think perl unitframes actually looks good? |
| 17:22.23 | Lothaer | heres a link http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=2855 |
| 17:22.29 | Lothaer | its nor perl |
| 17:22.33 | Lothaer | its X-Perl |
| 17:22.35 | Pkekyo | -x-perl, same shit |
| 17:22.38 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:22.48 | Lothaer | X-Perl is perl on steroids |
| 17:23.03 | Pkekyo | it's still the perl look |
| 17:23.10 | fixt | http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5657/wowscrnshot082907151324vx3.jpg |
| 17:23.14 | fixt | how is those borders etc made ? |
| 17:23.17 | Pkekyo | purl, ever tried sodomizing yourself anally with a retractable bat? |
| 17:23.25 | fixt | http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9936/wowscrnshot083007021909kw1.jpg |
| 17:23.27 | fixt | and there aswell |
| 17:23.48 | art3mis | the problem asises from virii that embed into services or key system files, and don't do much more than carry the payload to create the virus or trojan. |
| 17:23.50 | Pkekyo | eepanels? |
| 17:23.56 | [dRaCo] | fixt: looks like eepanels to me, yes. |
| 17:24.05 | fixt | hmm so eepanels with textures |
| 17:24.13 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 17:24.16 | Lothaer | JoshBorke: thanks |
| 17:25.29 | Bruners | looks very much like eepanels |
| 17:25.35 | Lothaer | http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/mymods.jpg |
| 17:25.53 | Lothaer | http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/Muffymcjuggs.jpg |
| 17:26.02 | Lothaer | the 2ndone is my GM |
| 17:26.09 | Pkekyo | wth? |
| 17:26.37 | cncfanatics | lol Lothaer, freak |
| 17:26.43 | Pkekyo | that's a bit too geeky tbh |
| 17:26.44 | Lothaer | :P |
| 17:26.54 | Lothaer | makes WoW more adult |
| 17:27.17 | cncfanatics | makes you more kid tbh |
| 17:27.34 | Punkie` | i agree with cncfanatics |
| 17:27.34 | Pkekyo | I concur |
| 17:27.36 | cncfanatics | shldnt drool on computerized pictures :p |
| 17:27.38 | Lothaer | thats you opinion and your entitles to it |
| 17:27.42 | zeeg | hey ladies |
| 17:27.48 | zeeg | http://my.cursebeta.com/account/projects/ -- anything else you want on the dashboard? |
| 17:28.11 | zeeg | oh, if you dont have the info, it shows latest comments + latest tickets below your projects |
| 17:28.15 | zeeg | (up to 100 of each) |
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| 17:28.20 | Pkekyo | member login? duck mah sick! |
| 17:28.42 | Punkie` | yes, this fails at member login :P |
| 17:28.48 | zeeg | -.- |
| 17:28.51 | zeeg | you have to login :p |
| 17:29.19 | Punkie` | i dont really register to websites such as curse :P |
| 17:29.42 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 17:29.49 | Lothaer | Pkekyo: did u get LS??? |
| 17:29.58 | Pkekyo | LS? |
| 17:30.04 | Lothaer | LunarSphere |
| 17:30.13 | Pkekyo | no, not really |
| 17:30.29 | Lothaer | meh |
| 17:30.31 | zeeg | Punkie`, you dont host at Curse? :( |
| 17:30.37 | Pkekyo | prolly won't either until it's out of beta...it needs macro support! |
| 17:30.45 | Lothaer | it has macro support |
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| 17:32.05 | Pkekyo | since when? |
| 17:32.29 | fixt | What is the barmod "to get" these days |
| 17:32.35 | fixt | Decided im gonna try Pitbull instead of aguf |
| 17:32.39 | cncfanatics | fixt, there's multiple depending on what you need ? |
| 17:32.42 | fixt | so thought id try something else than bartender3 |
| 17:32.52 | cncfanatics | fixt, how do you like your barmod ? |
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| 17:33.15 | JoshBorke | fixt: i thoroughly enjoy bongos |
| 17:33.20 | cncfanatics | have actual "bars", be able to group buttons yourself, do you want to spend a lot of time setting them up, want to save actions server side / client side ? |
| 17:33.52 | Punkie` | zeeg: no, i didn't like the version before this one :P |
| 17:33.57 | Punkie` | and maybe the version before :P |
| 17:34.03 | Lothaer | LS has had macro support since beta Stage 2 |
| 17:34.17 | zeeg | Punkie`, so try this one ;) |
| 17:34.23 | fixt | I just want nice clean buttons with several style options, the possibility to group the buttons either direction and also to move buttons standalone when needed |
| 17:34.26 | zeeg | if you dont like it Ill fix it |
| 17:35.54 | cncfanatics | fixt, no non-beta mod does that currently, but flexbar is going along nicely, its still beta software though |
| 17:36.23 | kenlyric | automaton ding needs screenshot option. |
| 17:36.23 | Lothaer | any1 tried AuctioneerAdvanced??? |
| 17:36.29 | kenlyric | oh baby yes. |
| 17:36.34 | kenlyric | I'm hooked on AA |
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| 17:36.41 | Lothaer | is it any good? |
| 17:36.48 | vithos | yes |
| 17:36.48 | Lothaer | i tried it and i couldnt see the scan button |
| 17:36.53 | vithos | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.55 | kenlyric | there is no scan button. |
| 17:36.57 | Lothaer | so i downgraded to 4.0.4 |
| 17:37.00 | kenlyric | who needs scan? it scans for you. |
| 17:37.02 | fixt | how buggy is it cncfanatics |
| 17:37.16 | cncfanatics | fixt, i'm its author, its not buggy, but it lacks some features |
| 17:37.29 | cncfanatics | and the GUI could use some work, its not as intuitive as i'd want it to be |
| 17:37.36 | kenlyric | it's not an upgrade, you can run them side by side. |
| 17:37.50 | kenlyric | but after a day with it, I don't know why you'd want to. |
| 17:37.59 | kenlyric | compact mode, price per item, wtfhax |
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| 17:38.07 | Lothaer | so how does it get the AH prices etc??? |
| 17:39.14 | Shadowed | [dRaCo], the name OptionHouse was from Tekkub, and was worked on by a couple of people |
| 17:39.14 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r48542 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: new text/custom text system |
| 17:39.40 | kenlyric | anything you look up in the AH, it scans those prices. Anything you ask it to appraise, it looks up those prices. *and stores them across sessions* |
| 17:39.53 | kenlyric | and, as pointed out, there's a commandline option to do a full scan, if you wish. |
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| 17:40.07 | Lothaer | thats what i prefer a full scan |
| 17:40.28 | [dRaCo] | Shadowed: ah.. the name is kinda funny :) |
| 17:40.32 | kenlyric | if you're someone who just seels the same stuff over and over, like a herbalist or a skinner, it's not that useful, but if you play the AH heavily, full scans can be worth it. |
| 17:40.41 | Shadowed | HousingAuthority/OptionHouse are both Tekkub names =p |
| 17:40.50 | cncfanatics | god, this sucks, my windows can read my ipod just fine |
| 17:40.57 | cncfanatics | but my damn linux box gets input/output errors |
| 17:41.08 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:41.14 | [dRaCo] | screwed up drivers? |
| 17:41.41 | cncfanatics | guessing |
| 17:41.50 | cncfanatics | worked fine a while ago, its weird |
| 17:41.54 | Lothaer | any1 used TalentCheck? |
| 17:43.20 | [dRaCo] | guess most ppl here are better with unix stuff than I am... you tried the usual stuff, did you? |
| 17:43.36 | Lothaer | kenlyric: off all the folders that you get when you download AA what ones are nessessary? |
| 17:44.08 | kenlyric | stubby and enhtooltip, I think, and all the auc folders. |
| 17:44.31 | kenlyric | btmscan if you use it, same for enchantrix. |
| 17:44.39 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48543 10Ace3/AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: Ace3 - fixed some error messages |
| 17:44.46 | Lothaer | what do those to do anyway i never figured that out lol |
| 17:45.13 | cncfanatics | [dRaCo]: I did a hard disk check |
| 17:45.18 | cncfanatics | didn't really do much more then that |
| 17:45.28 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 17:45.33 | ckknight | hey vhaarr, you're back! |
| 17:45.38 | Lothaer | hey ckknight jsut the person ive been waiting for |
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| 17:45.55 | cncfanatics | yo ckknight |
| 17:46.12 | [dRaCo] | cncfanatics: any upgrades recently? dist-upgrade or w/e? |
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| 17:48.28 | ckknight | hey zeeg |
| 17:48.38 | ckknight | hey Stan__ |
| 17:48.44 | Stan__ | ho :) |
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| 17:48.50 | ravagernl | hey guys |
| 17:49.05 | ravagernl | was wondering if anyone could help me with regex |
| 17:49.08 | cncfanatics | [dRaCo]: only sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 17:49.11 | cncfanatics | nothing unusual |
| 17:49.19 | vhaarr | ckknight: hey :) |
| 17:49.31 | Lothaer | ckk can i get you to look at a post i made in regards to volumeFu plz |
| 17:49.37 | [dRaCo] | so it's one of those thingies you updated... |
| 17:49.44 | [dRaCo] | anything obvious? |
| 17:49.51 | ravagernl | I want to clear all attributes on every <td> , i just don't know what I should enter in the "replace with" field |
| 17:50.02 | fixt | when using WAU to install addons, anyway to make it install it's dependencies aswell? |
| 17:50.07 | ravagernl | I have <td .*>.*</td> |
| 17:50.11 | fixt | cause i just cleared all my addons and downloaded several via WAU2 |
| 17:50.15 | fixt | and god are they not working =D |
| 17:50.35 | ravagernl | what should I use as replacement string? |
| 17:50.36 | ckknight | Lothaer: VolumeFu's not mine |
| 17:50.43 | JoshBorke | ravagernl: what do you want it to become? |
| 17:50.50 | Lothaer | i know its more inregards to the FuBar dewdrops |
| 17:50.55 | [dRaCo] | replace <td .*> with <td> should work , ravagernl |
| 17:50.58 | Lothaer | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8355.0 |
| 17:51.18 | [dRaCo] | why match the closing </td>? |
| 17:51.19 | ravagernl | It clears the text inside the cells also :( |
| 17:51.43 | [dRaCo] | use a non-greedy matching |
| 17:51.59 | JoshBorke | <td .*>\(.*\)</td>/<td>\1</td> |
| 17:52.01 | [dRaCo] | depends on the regex version you are running |
| 17:52.12 | Lothaer | i went a head and added support for the new voice chat on the PTR and updated the cVars to get the original optiosn to work but the new stiff i added wont show in the dew drops |
| 17:52.23 | ravagernl | [draco] it's just dreamweaver's search and replace |
| 17:52.46 | [dRaCo] | try josh's version |
| 17:53.05 | ravagernl | is that for the find field or for the replace with field? |
| 17:53.30 | ravagernl | oh wait I se the slash tells me |
| 17:53.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight did you post your toughts/conclusions/whatever yet? |
| 17:54.02 | ckknight | not yet |
| 17:54.08 | ckknight | it's gonna be pretty big |
| 17:54.31 | ravagernl | joshborke: doesn't match anything |
| 17:54.45 | [dRaCo] | ravagernl: if that doesnt work, <td .*?> might do |
| 17:55.03 | [dRaCo] | that's perl stuff though, dunno if dreamweaver supports that |
| 17:55.39 | ravagernl | nice |
| 17:55.42 | ravagernl | yeah works |
| 17:56.22 | ravagernl | so why does <td .?> work and <td .*> doesn't? |
| 17:57.35 | omega | because .? matches one or zero of anything |
| 17:57.39 | ckknight | .*? is ungreedy |
| 17:57.45 | omega | .* matches as much as it can |
| 17:57.57 | omega | I would guess you want <td .*?> |
| 17:58.05 | omega | gah, cknight++ # to fast |
| 17:58.10 | cncfanatics | if you put .* anywhere not in the end its probably bad practice |
| 17:58.15 | Pkekyo | pr0n? O.o |
| 17:58.18 | [dRaCo] | that's what I posted |
| 17:58.39 | Lothaer | every1 likes pr0n |
| 17:58.49 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48544 10Enhancer/: |
| 17:58.49 | CIA-22 | Enhancer: |
| 17:58.49 | CIA-22 | - Changed externals as they where bugging on Mac |
| 17:58.51 | Lothaer | wow pr0n is tha shit |
| 17:58.54 | omega | but parsing html with regex is bad no matter what really |
| 17:59.59 | cncfanatics | agree |
| 18:00.02 | cncfanatics | xml parsers anyone |
| 18:00.27 | CIA-22 | 03woody * r48545 10/branches/Minimalist/: Minimalist: Creating branches folder for Minimalist. |
| 18:00.41 | ravagernl | omega: I'm converting a excel table to a nice css styled table, but it had like 300 lines |
| 18:00.44 | kenlyric | oooh, give minimalist a ding module and have it take screenshots. |
| 18:00.49 | ravagernl | all cells had a width and height |
| 18:01.00 | omega | ravagernl: html tidy! |
| 18:01.19 | omega | its created more or less specificly to clean up MS office html exports :p |
| 18:01.21 | ravagernl | doesn't remove width's and height's as they are valid |
| 18:01.25 | omega | aha |
| 18:01.28 | omega | cant get it to either? |
| 18:01.37 | ravagernl | no |
| 18:02.01 | ravagernl | have to remember that nice little thingy |
| 18:02.08 | CIA-22 | 03woody * r48546 10/branches/MouseLook/: MouseLook: Creating branches folder for MouseLook. |
| 18:02.24 | ravagernl | (height|width)=".*?" hmmm |
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| 18:03.30 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r48547 10MouseLook/: MouseLook: Branching MouseLook for some experimental work. |
| 18:03.54 | Pkekyo | who has a woody? O.o |
| 18:03.58 | Pkekyo | I'm bored |
| 18:04.01 | Pkekyo | and my humour sucks |
| 18:04.05 | kenlyric | I can't fathom what a mouselook mod would do. |
| 18:04.07 | Lothaer | Chuck Norris discuss |
| 18:04.09 | kenlyric | doesn't the mouse already look? |
| 18:04.12 | CIA-22 | 03woody 07woody * r48548 10Minimalist/: Minimalist: Branching Minimalist for some experimental work. |
| 18:04.20 | Fisker- | Punkie` i hate you |
| 18:04.23 | Fisker- | HAET HAET HAET |
| 18:06.42 | *** join/#wowace Sithy__ (n=Sithy@S01060050ba68d008.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 18:06.49 | Lothaer | mouselooks description "Makes using "mouse-look" a bit more convenient. " |
| 18:07.52 | ckknight | howso? |
| 18:08.13 | Hjalte | I tried mouselook once. I couldnt get used to it. |
| 18:08.42 | Lothaer | what is mouselook supposed to do??? |
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| 18:09.47 | ravagernl | hmm, anyone got regex to convert text inside html elements to html entities? & € etc |
| 18:10.07 | ckknight | ick |
| 18:10.08 | cncfanatics | ravernl, REGEX ? |
| 18:10.10 | cncfanatics | for that ? |
| 18:10.14 | cncfanatics | just simple string replaces will do |
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| 18:10.25 | NightHawkAtWork | hell, some languages have functions for that |
| 18:10.43 | [dRaCo] | htmlentities() |
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| 18:11.47 | Lothaer | i wonder how many mods are gonna break when WotLK goes live :P |
| 18:11.59 | ravagernl | regex to convert text inside html elements |
| 18:12.02 | ckknight | all of them. |
| 18:12.07 | Lothaer | u reckon? |
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| 18:12.13 | ckknight | lol, I dunno |
| 18:12.16 | Lothaer | lol |
| 18:12.21 | NightHawkAtWork | probably few |
| 18:12.34 | ravagernl | htmlentities would convert html elements also |
| 18:12.52 | ravagernl | heh, maybe i'm just lazy |
| 18:12.58 | Lothaer | so, ckknight, u wouldnt have any1 WTF is going on with volumeFU then?, maybe ill see if i can ttrack down the author |
| 18:13.08 | ckknight | nope, sorry |
| 18:13.31 | NightHawkAtWork | wow, that sentance was almost passable as english. |
| 18:13.33 | Lothaer | dman i thiught maybe you would as u invented fubar and u know how the dewdrops work |
| 18:13.38 | Lothaer | lo |
| 18:13.40 | Lothaer | l |
| 18:14.05 | ravagernl | ~volumefu |
| 18:14.19 | Lothaer | yup |
| 18:14.31 | ravagernl | Aileen is the author |
| 18:14.39 | ravagernl | ~seen Aileen |
| 18:14.41 | purl | aileen <n=Aileen@c-24-62-250-204.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 259d 4h 4m 12s ago, saying: 'hrm, I was hoping OneStorage made like a shared repository of bank stuff, but it doesn't look like that's the case'. |
| 18:14.52 | Olison | :o |
| 18:14.55 | ravagernl | lol |
| 18:15.24 | Lothaer | is he/she on here much? |
| 18:16.21 | cncfanatics | Lothaer, look above |
| 18:16.31 | Lothaer | i saw |
| 18:16.39 | cncfanatics | means No |
| 18:16.57 | Lothaer | im am dis-inclined to aquiest to your request |
| 18:17.00 | Lothaer | means no |
| 18:17.01 | Lothaer | lol |
| 18:17.15 | NightHawkAtWork | dude, dictionary.com, use it. |
| 18:17.20 | Lothaer | meh |
| 18:17.22 | durcyn | "ell oh ell semicolon parentheses" |
| 18:18.42 | Industrial | lol:)? |
| 18:19.53 | durcyn | Industrial: nick burns, rather |
| 18:20.05 | Industrial | eh? |
| 18:20.06 | Lothaer | I am so sorry NightHawkAtWork, did my incorrect spelling and punctuation some how offend you? |
| 18:20.26 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, idiocy offends me. |
| 18:20.53 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48549 10Enhancer/: |
| 18:20.53 | CIA-22 | Enhancer: |
| 18:20.53 | CIA-22 | - Missed a slash in one of the externals |
| 18:21.52 | Lothaer | Learn to use punctuation then. |
| 18:23.57 | durcyn | Industrial: SNL character. "your company's computer guy, he'll fix your computer but then he's gonna make fun of you" |
| 18:24.22 | durcyn | his catchphrase was "ell oh ell semicolon parentheses", and i think of it every time i see people spam that stupid "lol" acronym |
| 18:24.27 | Mech0z | Lothaer, I cant seem to get xperl to show focus |
| 18:24.33 | Mech0z | in edit mode |
| 18:24.38 | Industrial | durcyn: SNL ? |
| 18:24.45 | Lothaer | select a target then type /focus |
| 18:24.58 | Mech0z | year got it... but wierd it aint showing in edit mode though :/ |
| 18:25.19 | Lothaer | huh??? |
| 18:25.38 | NightHawkAtWork | Industrial: saturday night live. |
| 18:29.09 | Fisker- | OH HI!1 |
| 18:29.14 | Fisker- | we killed gruul :o |
| 18:29.51 | Lothaer | mechOz what do u mena it wont show in edit mode??? |
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| 18:30.49 | Sirow | Lothaer: PLEASE read and correct your spelling BEFORCE pressing ENTER :( |
| 18:31.01 | NightHawkAtWork | Sirow: <3 |
| 18:31.22 | Sirow | s/BEFORCE/BEFORE |
| 18:31.45 | Lothaer | mechOz, what do you mean it wont show in edit mode* HAPPY |
| 18:31.59 | Sirow | ./kiss :> |
| 18:32.24 | Lothaer | ... |
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| 18:34.23 | Pkekyo | art3mis: ping? |
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| 18:35.39 | zeeg | ckknight, hey do me a favor |
| 18:36.39 | YourMomsHero | anyone know which wing of the Scarlet Monestary the Cobalt Crusher drops from? |
| 18:37.25 | NightHawkAtWork | try wowhead. |
| 18:38.02 | Industrial | lolz, it's a zeeg |
| 18:38.31 | Lothaer | YourMomsHero: its a random drop from trash in all 4 |
| 18:38.35 | zeeg | ooo he does exist! |
| 18:38.49 | YourMomsHero | Lothaer: cool thx =D |
| 18:38.53 | Lothaer | np |
| 18:38.57 | Lothaer | AtlasLoot FTW |
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| 18:40.54 | zeeg | anyways, ckknight, http://my.curse.com/account/projects/ -- if you have any feedback/stuff you want, let me know |
| 18:42.25 | Gnarfoz | is there a way, with just ThreatLib installed, to set it to send Threat data to KTM? |
| 18:43.04 | Lothaer | i thi nk the data is sent via Omen as KTM dosnt use ThreatLib |
| 18:43.08 | Lothaer | think* |
| 18:43.53 | kadrahil | seen cryect |
| 18:43.59 | kadrahil | !seen cryect |
| 18:43.59 | Diao | Cryect!i=Cryect@pool-72-95-155-202.pitbpa.east.verizon.net was last seen 4 day 12 hr 37 min 59 s ago on #wowace |
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| 18:46.04 | Mecdemort | Is there a way to get AceDB to save a value if it equals the default value? |
| 18:46.23 | [dRaCo] | why would you wanna do that? |
| 18:48.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Gnarfoz: if it does't do it by default, there's probably a way to do it |
| 18:48.09 | Mecdemort | I'm trying to keep track of the version of a database and if its not at the revision of the addon i need to update it, but it's always at the revision because a default starts at the revision |
| 18:48.38 | pastamancer | Mecdemort: don't use defaults for that |
| 18:48.39 | Tem|Class | so don't make it a default |
| 18:48.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Mecdemort: ... so, set the default to something else? |
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| 18:50.09 | Lothaer | i think hes asking how |
| 18:50.21 | xyu` | sdf |
| 18:50.24 | Mecdemort | no if i set it to something else, then they'll all just equal that too |
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| 18:52.48 | Mech0z | Lothaer, anyway to remove that combat log like thing that is shown on mouseover allies |
| 18:53.46 | Lothaer | that would be theGrim Reaper just click the all tabs and disable it, it on the right at the bottom |
| 18:53.59 | Lothaer | stfu about spelling |
| 18:54.32 | Mecdemort | i suppose i should just move the default value out of defaults and into OnInitialize, that'll make it always defined |
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| 18:56.36 | Gnarfoz | Lothaer: no, ThreatLib is capable of converting its own gathered data and send it so KTM can use it :) |
| 18:56.52 | Lothaer | kool i didnt know that now i do thanks :) |
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| 19:00.39 | cryogen | hmm |
| 19:01.22 | Gnarfoz | do you run on 512mb ram? :p |
| 19:01.28 | Olison | haha |
| 19:01.32 | cryogen | i do not |
| 19:01.34 | Gnarfoz | ~seen cryect |
| 19:01.37 | purl | cryect <n=fefsd@pool-72-95-251-159.pitbpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 18h 29m 39s ago, saying: 'charon: it can't tell the difference between mobs of the same name (you don't get any unit id for them or anything) so he couldn't do that'. |
| 19:01.42 | cryogen | however i didnt do it purosefully to reduce memory usage |
| 19:01.48 | cryogen | i just removed all my ace2 addons :) |
| 19:01.52 | Fisker- | that's what you get for improving your game performance |
| 19:02.07 | Lothaer | lol |
| 19:02.16 | cryogen | i am conducting an experiment |
| 19:02.38 | Lothaer | what are your trying to find out? |
| 19:02.56 | cryogen | The World Without Ace2(tm) |
| 19:03.32 | Fisker- | i'm gonna kill you now |
| 19:03.55 | Fisker- | The plan is for a percentage of the +heal stat on items with pure +heal to be added as +spell damage, for no extra cost. Further details and exceptions will be discussed at a later time. |
| 19:03.56 | Fisker- | yay |
| 19:04.26 | cryogen | and the first thing i notice, is: i miss autobar |
| 19:04.44 | Hjalte | Fisker-, where'd you get that info? |
| 19:04.45 | CIA-22 | 03kameril * r48550 10VisualThemes/ (BlizzardFrames.lua Core.lua Themes/ScaleFade.lua): |
| 19:04.45 | CIA-22 | VisualThemes: |
| 19:04.45 | CIA-22 | -Fixed tainting issues. |
| 19:04.45 | CIA-22 | -Added a couple Blizzard frames to the list. |
| 19:04.53 | Sirow | Use Discord |
| 19:04.53 | Sirow | *runs for his life...* |
| 19:05.19 | cryogen | autobar isnt an action bars addon :) |
| 19:05.26 | NightHawkAtWork | Fisker-: o_0 where's this? |
| 19:05.31 | Sirow | Hjalte: One of the officials said something about this in BlizzCon |
| 19:05.38 | Sirow | *on |
| 19:05.53 | Sirow | I made a screenshot *search* |
| 19:05.57 | Hjalte | That sounds interesting.. But could be op in arenas. |
| 19:06.54 | NightHawkAtWork | i wouldn't think so |
| 19:07.15 | Lothaer | hey what was the very first Ace mod? |
| 19:07.19 | Sirow | http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap36479ye8.png |
| 19:07.24 | Hjalte | Free spelldamage? How is that not unfair, when I can also heal for a lot? |
| 19:07.51 | Sirow | They want to buff Priest solo ability, they don't want to overdue it |
| 19:07.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Hjalte: because you wont be getting enough spell damage to make your spells really hurt very much? and if you're wearing +heal gear, you probably have a healing spec |
| 19:08.11 | Shirik|Ecole | priests can solo |
| 19:08.14 | Shirik|Ecole | they just can't as holy |
| 19:08.27 | Shirik|Ecole | So I have a mage farm with me, big deal |
| 19:08.32 | Lothaer | BS |
| 19:08.33 | Shirik|Ecole | even with split loot we make a ton |
| 19:08.35 | Fisker- | The daily quests make up for it a lot |
| 19:08.36 | Sirow | sorry, was about holy priest, allways forget to mention, since I'm holy ^^ |
| 19:08.42 | Lothaer | im a holy priest and i solo farm/quest all the time |
| 19:08.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I can't kill a damn thing |
| 19:08.55 | Shirik|Ecole | perhaps I should say "healing" instead of "holy" |
| 19:08.59 | Hjalte | NightHawkAtWork, no matter what, you can't deny that it would improve healing priests abilities in arenas without buffing the other classes. |
| 19:09.08 | Lothaer | im 31/30/0 |
| 19:09.11 | Hjalte | other classes = non-spellcasting healers. |
| 19:09.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Lothaer: That means nothing |
| 19:09.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Is that a DPS or healing spec? |
| 19:09.25 | Hjalte | I'm holy too, on my priest. |
| 19:09.30 | Lothaer | healing |
| 19:09.32 | NightHawkAtWork | Hjalte: well, i won't deny that giving anyone anything for free will "improve their abilities" |
| 19:09.33 | Hjalte | healing holy* |
| 19:10.07 | Shirik|Ecole | Then, Lothaer, I think one of a few things is going on here |
| 19:10.12 | Sirow | I can remember one of the devs said, say don't want to 1:1 +heal to +dmg, so Priests don't get uber, but to make holy more solo fun |
| 19:10.22 | Shirik|Ecole | either you're trolling, you're making stuff up, or you're failing to realize that other classes can kill faster than you |
| 19:10.23 | NightHawkAtWork | Hjalte: but practically speaking, it seems like if you're wearing +heal gear in an arena, you'll want to be healing, as opposed to nuking |
| 19:10.28 | Lothaer | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Spinebreaker&n=Lothaer the gear im in is what i use when im farming/questing |
| 19:10.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Honestly, I had a 65 rogue outfarm me last night |
| 19:10.45 | Lothaer | im not saying i can kill fast |
| 19:10.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Course, I could be way off, and you could be right. |
| 19:10.50 | Hjalte | NightHawkAtWork, a sw:p doesnt take long to cast.. but it gets a lot from my +damage. |
| 19:10.57 | Lothaer | just saying u can farm/quest as a holy priest |
| 19:11.20 | NightHawkAtWork | "can" and "can effeciently" are two entirely different things |
| 19:11.46 | Lothaer | i am perfectly able to farm effectively as a holy priest |
| 19:11.47 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48551 10RaidSpy/ (. RaidSpy.toc): |
| 19:11.47 | CIA-22 | RaidSpy: |
| 19:11.47 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix |
| 19:11.49 | Sirow | can and FUN are two different words ;) It all about the fun, hey its a game ^^ |
| 19:11.55 | cryogen | hmm there is no non ace autobar replacement |
| 19:11.59 | Shirik|Ecole | And this is why I go with a mage |
| 19:12.07 | NightHawkAtWork | cryogen: autorack is close |
| 19:12.07 | Lothaer | post a link to ur armory page plz |
| 19:12.12 | Sirow | <-- rouge twink ^^ |
| 19:12.19 | Shirik|Ecole | instead we can pull the entire set of mobs up by BT |
| 19:12.20 | *** join/#wowace Dhraga (n=chatzill@h181n2fls33o264.telia.com) |
| 19:12.22 | Shirik|Ecole | and we'll be OK |
| 19:12.26 | Shirik|Ecole | !c us drenden kimina |
| 19:12.30 | ThraeBot | Shirik|Ecole: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 5841 HP; 8580 Mana; 388 mana regen; 123 mp5; 26 spell crit; 89 +spell dmg; 1078 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 924 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Mon Sep 10 15:24:45 2007 ]] |
| 19:12.37 | Shirik|Ecole | uh |
| 19:12.39 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf is that |
| 19:12.42 | Shirik|Ecole | oh I logged out unbuffed :( |
| 19:12.43 | Pkekyo | cryogen: why do you want a non-ace autobar replacement? |
| 19:13.18 | Lothaer | armory page is better i wanna see spec stats and gear plz |
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| 19:13.24 | Shirik|Ecole | dude |
| 19:13.25 | Shirik|Ecole | the link's there |
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| 19:13.29 | Shirik|Ecole | click it |
| 19:13.34 | cryogen | NightHawkAtWork: ah thanks |
| 19:13.40 | cryogen | Pkekyo: for my experiment, see above |
| 19:13.46 | Lothaer | kk nvm |
| 19:14.09 | Lothaer | is that the gear u farm in? |
| 19:14.20 | Shirik|Ecole | what did I log out in |
| 19:14.32 | Pkekyo | cryogen: I'm stooped...WHY? :P |
| 19:14.34 | Shirik|Ecole | and I have repeatedly said I don't farm by myself |
| 19:14.38 | Lothaer | watchers cowl etc |
| 19:14.46 | Shirik|Ecole | for the most part, yes |
| 19:15.46 | Lothaer | well u need to work on dmg and healing gear then |
| 19:15.48 | Lothaer | look at my page |
| 19:16.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I would rather not. This is not a competition, and I have been 70 for an extremely shorter time than you have, I'm sure |
| 19:16.23 | Lothaer | ill reload the page in my heal gear |
| 19:16.35 | Lothaer | 32 days @ 70 |
| 19:16.36 | Shirik|Ecole | Instead I continue to point out that, without changing gear, it is far easier to work with someone |
| 19:16.38 | Shirik|Ecole | and more efficient |
| 19:16.48 | cryogen | Pkekyo: why not, i spent long enough doing the reverse :) |
| 19:16.52 | NightHawkAtWork | even with changing gear |
| 19:16.52 | Lothaer | put that way i totally agree |
| 19:16.54 | Shirik|Ecole | Instead of having to spend time/money to get damage gear, I can just work with someone else |
| 19:16.56 | Shirik|Ecole | so why not? |
| 19:16.58 | cryogen | NightHawkAtWork: mm, not quite the same thing |
| 19:17.14 | NightHawkAtWork | cryogen: well i said "close", not exactly the same. :) |
| 19:17.14 | Lothaer | that fact that you have to share loot and gold lol |
| 19:17.22 | Lothaer | on drops |
| 19:17.24 | cryogen | well, far from the same thing :D |
| 19:17.30 | Shirik|Ecole | I have a feeling, no matter what I did |
| 19:17.35 | Shirik|Ecole | I wouldn't be able to pull 15 mobs at a time and survive |
| 19:17.54 | Lothaer | unless ur a mage in full Merciless gear i dont think any1 could ^^ |
| 19:17.56 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48552 10Cancellation/ (. Cancellation.toc): |
| 19:17.56 | CIA-22 | Cancellation: |
| 19:17.56 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix |
| 19:17.56 | CIA-22 | - Updated toc (yeah I'm fast) |
| 19:17.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Shirik|Ecole: that's why i like grouping with my prot pally friend. |
| 19:18.03 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48553 10ChatHighlighter/ (. ChatHighlighter.toc): |
| 19:18.03 | CIA-22 | ChatHighlighter: |
| 19:18.03 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix |
| 19:18.03 | CIA-22 | - Updated toc (yeah I'm fast) |
| 19:18.13 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48554 10Fizzlebag/: |
| 19:18.13 | CIA-22 | Fizzlebag: |
| 19:18.13 | CIA-22 | -Externals fix |
| 19:18.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Lothaer: fix your damn spelling. |
| 19:18.51 | Shirik|Ecole | Lothaer: He's not, and we do |
| 19:18.53 | Shirik|Ecole | consistently |
| 19:19.20 | Shirik|Ecole | this is a small pull: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/051388ff7d4023733098984eefa61a25.jpg |
| 19:19.40 | Shirik|Ecole | I counted 16 |
| 19:20.08 | Lothaer | something like that |
| 19:20.14 | Lothaer | looks like fun |
| 19:20.48 | Sirow | neat :D |
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| 19:21.10 | Shirik|Ecole | it's good loot though |
| 19:21.15 | Lothaer | i see you also use Titan :P |
| 19:21.17 | Lothaer | ill bet |
| 19:21.17 | Shirik|Ecole | on average you get about 20 netherweave and 15 signets per pull |
| 19:21.20 | Shirik|Ecole | that's not my UI |
| 19:21.27 | Shirik|Ecole | if you'll look the name of the player says "Bloodreaper" |
| 19:21.29 | Shirik|Ecole | that would be the mage |
| 19:21.33 | Lothaer | ahh woops meh |
| 19:21.34 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48555 10GirlFriend/ (. GirlFriend.toc): |
| 19:21.34 | CIA-22 | GirlFriend: |
| 19:21.34 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix |
| 19:21.48 | Lothaer | tell him i said woot rofl |
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| 19:22.39 | Sirow | Whats (a) Girlfriend? |
| 19:22.52 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48556 10DeclineDuel/ (. DeclineDuel.toc): |
| 19:22.52 | CIA-22 | DeclineDuel: |
| 19:22.52 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:23.34 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway time for class |
| 19:23.59 | Lothaer | have fun |
| 19:24.34 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48557 10ShammySpy/: |
| 19:24.34 | CIA-22 | ShammySpy: |
| 19:24.34 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:24.35 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48558 10Tankalyze/: |
| 19:24.35 | CIA-22 | Tankalyze: |
| 19:24.35 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:24.39 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48559 10TGuildFrame/ (. TGuildFrame.toc): |
| 19:24.39 | CIA-22 | TGuildFrame: |
| 19:24.40 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:24.43 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48560 10RaidHelper/ (. RaidHelper.toc): |
| 19:24.46 | CIA-22 | RaidHelper: |
| 19:24.48 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:25.19 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48561 10FuBar_RLAssistFu/ (. FuBar_RLAssistFu.toc): |
| 19:25.19 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RLAssistFu: |
| 19:25.19 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:25.57 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48562 10FuBar_TinyPadFu/ (. FuBar_TinyPadFu.toc): |
| 19:25.57 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TinyPadFu: |
| 19:25.57 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:26.07 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48563 10FuBar_UIReloadFu/ (. FuBar_UIReloadFu.toc): |
| 19:26.07 | CIA-22 | FuBar_UIReloadFu: |
| 19:26.07 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:26.14 | krka_ | good thing CIA-22 never spams |
| 19:26.38 | orionshock | oy! - whats the slash command to transfer guild ownership to another toon? |
| 19:26.43 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48564 10T_ItemInfo/ (. T_ItemInfo.toc): |
| 19:26.43 | CIA-22 | T_ItemInfo: |
| 19:26.43 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:27.05 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48565 10RaidAgent/ (. RaidAgent.toc): |
| 19:27.05 | CIA-22 | RaidAgent: |
| 19:27.05 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:27.14 | cncfanatics | god i'm gonna kill that guy |
| 19:27.16 | orionshock | what the hell is he doing? |
| 19:27.25 | cncfanatics | WHEN YOU DO LOTS OF SIMILAR COMMITS DO EM ALL AT ONCE YOU RETARD |
| 19:27.44 | cncfanatics | seems he's bugfixing toc files |
| 19:27.48 | cncfanatics | that retard shld do em all at once |
| 19:27.53 | NightHawkAtWork | indeed. |
| 19:28.00 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48566 10RaidInfo/ (. RaidInfo.toc): |
| 19:28.00 | CIA-22 | RaidInfo: |
| 19:28.00 | CIA-22 | - Externals fix for Mac |
| 19:28.14 | orionshock | anyway i can put cia on ignore? |
| 19:28.19 | Cheads | retard? that's a nice way to talk to others |
| 19:28.26 | Lothaer | orionshock: /gleader <player> |
| 19:28.33 | NightHawkAtWork | Cheads: well, it's acruate. |
| 19:28.36 | NightHawkAtWork | acurate* |
| 19:29.02 | Fisker- | player has to be online though |
| 19:29.06 | Fisker- | which is massive faiulre |
| 19:29.07 | Fisker- | failure |
| 19:29.12 | *** join/#wowace Bam__ (n=pervel@0x573c0536.boanqu2.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 19:30.04 | Silowyi | Fisker-: Not technically |
| 19:30.17 | Bam__ | any way to get a timer on my mage's Frost Elemental so I know when it will "despawn"? |
| 19:30.23 | Silowyi | Fisker-: in fact if the player is offline, some very very interesting things can happen. |
| 19:30.28 | Bam__ | with Pitbull for example |
| 19:30.35 | *** join/#wowace Arch_Away (n=Arch@ns2.webm.ru) |
| 19:30.40 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host217-42-208-232.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) |
| 19:31.09 | Fisker- | Silowyi just says the player is offline for me when i try |
| 19:31.11 | Fisker- | Punkie` i own you |
| 19:31.12 | Silowyi | Fisker-: Unless they fixed it, simply giving anyone the promote privilege will allow them, through repeated spamming of the /gpromote command on an offline player, make that player have guild leader privileges :) |
| 19:31.16 | Fisker- | also stop applying for our guild |
| 19:31.22 | orionshock | Bam__: not sure by try chronometer .. it might time it |
| 19:31.22 | Punkie` | wtf are you on about |
| 19:31.34 | Silowyi | which in turn allows them to make multiple people guild leader... |
| 19:31.34 | Bam__ | orionshock: thanks will look at that |
| 19:31.44 | Silowyi | its funny, we had like 15 Guild Leaders at one time :) |
| 19:31.46 | Lothaer | Bam__: try Natur |
| 19:31.48 | Fisker- | http://forum.semperdanica.dk/showthread.php?t=15846 Punkie` |
| 19:31.50 | Fisker- | you see_ |
| 19:31.50 | Fisker- | ? |
| 19:31.53 | Silowyi | you can also gkick the guild leader |
| 19:31.58 | Bam__ | Lothaer: cheers |
| 19:31.59 | Fisker- | your name is Punkie` so it must be you |
| 19:32.03 | Punkie` | lol |
| 19:32.24 | Punkie` | he isn't a gnome therefore the name doesn't suit him |
| 19:32.41 | cncfanatics | Silowyi, so any officer could gkick the guild leader with his alt ? |
| 19:33.20 | Silowyi | cncfanatics: More or less. |
| 19:33.44 | Lothaer | one of my former GMs was playing drunk and instead of typing /gkick he typed /gdispand |
| 19:33.44 | orionshock | sure , if u bend the system in ways it wasn't designed for then ya -- glitches happen |
| 19:34.08 | Cheads | What do you call an intelligent man in America? |
| 19:34.11 | Cheads | A tourist. |
| 19:34.14 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 19:34.20 | cncfanatics | weak joke lol, glad i'm no american |
| 19:34.29 | Silowyi | cncfanatics: It's humorous, every GL I've revealed this fact to has immediately suspended all officer privileges. |
| 19:34.31 | Lothaer | a woman |
| 19:34.31 | Cheads | now that we were talking about retards hehe |
| 19:34.39 | Fisker- | why would he play drunk Lothaer? |
| 19:34.50 | Lothaer | for shits and giggles lol i dont know |
| 19:35.13 | orionshock | in the guild i was in, there where 4 people that could invite and per/demote ppl |
| 19:35.20 | orionshock | and everything else was handled on the fourms |
| 19:35.40 | Silowyi | The guild I'm currently in has a ton of officers |
| 19:35.59 | cncfanatics | so basicly |
| 19:36.00 | cncfanatics | I could |
| 19:36.02 | cncfanatics | if I wanted to |
| 19:36.06 | orionshock | officers yes - but only 4 that could actually do anything guild management side. |
| 19:36.08 | cncfanatics | join one of those idiot everyone can invite guilds |
| 19:36.09 | orionshock | :D |
| 19:36.11 | Silowyi | I think three or four of them know the GL's password anyway |
| 19:36.15 | cncfanatics | and make it disband ? |
| 19:36.27 | Silowyi | cncfanatics: only if they give you the promote privelege. |
| 19:36.31 | cncfanatics | and I got to lose the stupid habit of talking in pieces ffs |
| 19:36.35 | Silowyi | you don't have to be able to promote past any certain rank |
| 19:36.43 | cncfanatics | nice bug lol |
| 19:36.47 | cncfanatics | I rly hope they actualy fixed it |
| 19:36.48 | Silowyi | just have the ability to use the promote command |
| 19:37.06 | Silowyi | afaik it worked as of June, so it wasn't fixed in 2.1.2 |
| 19:37.29 | Silowyi | I might be remembering the times wrong though, could have been May |
| 19:37.47 | Lothaer | i hope Blizzard do something about the old 40mans, kinda like what they're doing with Naxx. |
| 19:38.13 | Hjalte | No more MC runs please >.< |
| 19:38.15 | fixt | i hope they change the game to be less grind |
| 19:38.35 | Bam__ | what are they doing with Naxx? |
| 19:39.05 | cncfanatics | hmmm, should I quit wow or reroll ? someone ? |
| 19:39.23 | Lothaer | there moving it to northrend |
| 19:39.24 | Bam__ | erm.... |
| 19:39.28 | Lothaer | making it 25man |
| 19:39.31 | Hjalte | cncfanatics, quit wow. |
| 19:39.32 | Lothaer | giving i tlvl 80 gear |
| 19:39.41 | Bam__ | ah nice |
| 19:39.46 | Lothaer | and setting it to MC dificulty |
| 19:40.05 | Bam__ | yea it seems somewhat strange to have all these old instances being unused |
| 19:40.16 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, good answer |
| 19:40.35 | cncfanatics | I do need someone to take over my project then though |
| 19:41.02 | Bam__ | cncfanatics: having a depressed moment or something?? |
| 19:41.21 | cncfanatics | Bam__, not specialy, my server is dead, kinda pointless to keep on playing on it |
| 19:41.22 | Lothaer | id like to see more class quest ie a quest to upgrade Benediction that requires people to go back to MC/BWL etc |
| 19:41.25 | cncfanatics | rather do usefull things |
| 19:41.49 | Bam__ | well playing games isn't useful I guess :D |
| 19:41.58 | Hjalte | cncfanatics, concentrate on school, work or whatever you are doing. I'm sure you could be doing something better than wow. That's what I am trying to do at the moment. |
| 19:42.18 | Lothaer | IRL > WoW |
| 19:42.35 | Bam__ | although I believe Betrand Russel once said: "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time" :P |
| 19:43.03 | phyber | ~seen elkano |
| 19:43.06 | purl | elkano <n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-183.handshake.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22h 53m 50s ago, saying: 'Gnarfoz, I think you should have a look at the change you did to my addon... and to how AceLocale works...'. |
| 19:43.06 | Sirow | :) |
| 19:43.49 | Gnarfoz | huh? oO :D |
| 19:43.51 | cncfanatics | Bam__, do you enjoy every single minute you waste on WoW ? |
| 19:43.55 | Gnarfoz | I must have missed that, thanks phyber ^^ |
| 19:44.17 | Bam__ | cncfanatics: No :( |
| 19:44.20 | phyber | Gnarfoz: hehe :) |
| 19:44.24 | cncfanatics | Bam__; wasted time ? :) |
| 19:44.36 | Bam__ | Bam__: indeed lol |
| 19:44.44 | phyber | Gnarfoz: was looking for him to ask about an ElkBuffBars feature. |
| 19:45.19 | Nickenyfiken_ | http://break.com/index/im-a-fan-of-the-soap-knob.html |
| 19:45.32 | Bam__ | real life is a waste of time too :( |
| 19:45.36 | Fisker- | drama Gnarfoz |
| 19:45.52 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: yea, gotta check what he was on about |
| 19:45.55 | Bam__ | work, work, work, work... |
| 19:46.18 | cncfanatics | Bam__, school is quite ok |
| 19:46.25 | cncfanatics | especialy the people you see there though, not the lessons |
| 19:46.32 | *** join/#wowace Expiation (i=Corey@cable-216-167-230-227.dyn.personainc.net) |
| 19:46.32 | cncfanatics | guess its the same for work, at least it was when I worked :p |
| 19:46.33 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 19:47.03 | Bam__ | yea I do enjoy the people I work with more than the work itself :P |
| 19:47.15 | Lothaer | wow it almost 5:30am lol |
| 19:48.05 | cncfanatics | quite natural imo Bam__, for me at least |
| 19:48.08 | cncfanatics | Lothaer, where u live ? |
| 19:48.11 | cncfanatics | its like, 10pm here |
| 19:48.46 | Lothaer | South Australia |
| 19:48.46 | cncfanatics | ~emulate ckknight |
| 19:48.47 | purl | <@ckknight> what do I get out of it? |
| 19:49.25 | cncfanatics | hmmm, i'm downloading music atm |
| 19:49.28 | cncfanatics | someone gimme good titles |
| 19:49.32 | cncfanatics | got 40gigs left to fill |
| 19:49.43 | Bam__ | "Get the fuck out of my mind" |
| 19:49.53 | nevcairiel | 01-Lying_Is_The_Most_Fun_A_Girl_Can_Have_Without_Taking_Her_Clothes_Off_(Radio_Edit).mp3 |
| 19:50.07 | cncfanatics | groups of those ? |
| 19:50.19 | nevcairiel | Panic at the disco |
| 19:50.30 | Lothaer | The End |
| 19:50.34 | Bam__ | Tim Christensen.. you don't know him if you aren't Danish :P |
| 19:50.43 | cncfanatics | don't need danish stuff :) |
| 19:50.48 | Bam__ | :( |
| 19:51.02 | Lothaer | The End by Bullet for my Valentine |
| 19:51.05 | cncfanatics | only french, dutch english, spanish or portuguese :) |
| 19:51.24 | [dRaCo] | cncfanatics: any hints? |
| 19:51.25 | Bam__ | lol.. lyrics are in English though :P |
| 19:51.28 | Sirow | german folkssong FTW :P |
| 19:51.39 | [dRaCo] | like metal, rock, pop, rnb? |
| 19:51.43 | nevcairiel | actually Sirow, .. no |
| 19:51.48 | Sirow | ^^ |
| 19:51.51 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.00 | cncfanatics | pretty much everything |
| 19:52.02 | cncfanatics | even some techno |
| 19:52.05 | Lothaer | Tehno |
| 19:52.11 | Lothaer | Techno* lol |
| 19:52.12 | cncfanatics | though thats mainly david guetta & laurent garnier, cuz they rock |
| 19:52.14 | nevcairiel | teh no? |
| 19:52.18 | Bam__ | ah yes... what was the top song..... "Herzilein, du muss nicht traurich sein" |
| 19:52.25 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, david guetta & laurent garnier rox |
| 19:52.30 | cncfanatics | Bam__, german aint dutch |
| 19:52.31 | cncfanatics | german sucks hard |
| 19:52.34 | Sirow | Bam__: lol |
| 19:52.43 | Bam__ | lol.. probably wasn't correct German either |
| 19:53.01 | Sirow | bam__: was pretty good ;) |
| 19:53.41 | [dRaCo] | check Van Canto's A Storm To Come and De/Vision's NOOB (no offense ;P), those are curently in heavy rotation here, cncfanatics |
| 19:54.18 | cncfanatics | snurre, WHERE ? |
| 19:54.27 | snurre | techno parade in paris |
| 19:54.39 | [dRaCo] | the new Sum 41 is cool, too... nothing new, though |
| 19:55.15 | *** join/#wowace Killmore2 (n=task@modemcable031.191-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 19:55.25 | cncfanatics | snurre, giev |
| 19:55.32 | cncfanatics | i'm 2h driving from paris /cry |
| 19:55.34 | Lothaer | well im off guys |
| 19:55.35 | Lothaer | later |
| 19:55.45 | cncfanatics | bye |
| 19:56.15 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, <3 panic at the disco :p |
| 19:56.19 | cncfanatics | even though its old lol, its nice |
| 19:56.49 | Stan__ | <cncfanatics> german sucks hard <- you, too :p |
| 19:57.17 | Bam__ | purl sucks |
| 19:57.18 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 19:57.18 | cncfanatics | Stan__, the language, not the people that speak it |
| 19:57.24 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=charon@77-56-85-248.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:57.27 | cncfanatics | tough I shldnt generalize that too much, most of its people suck too |
| 19:57.33 | Stan__ | cncfanatics: lol^^ |
| 19:57.38 | [dRaCo] | cncfanatics: behave ;þ |
| 19:58.46 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-185.handshake.de) |
| 19:59.39 | charon | [Ammo]: your fix to oRA cooldown monitor seems to work, thank |
| 19:59.41 | charon | *thanks |
| 20:00.12 | snurre | cncfanatics: http://www.technoparade.fr/ |
| 20:00.16 | snurre | it's gonna be pretty hawt |
| 20:01.28 | Fisker- | Fisker- do you take Punkie` as your lawfully wedded wife? |
| 20:01.30 | Fisker- | sure |
| 20:01.45 | charon | also, recount is made of pure win, except i'm pretty much convinced it's the cause for my regular 2-3sec slowdowns :( |
| 20:15.50 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatic1 (i=evolve@184.21-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 20:16.41 | Nickenyfiken_ | Hmm is dev.wowace.com not working? |
| 20:18.30 | pastamancer | I had to restart apache earlier... I'll go check |
| 20:18.40 | *** join/#wowace joey` (n=joey@apollo.arsenic.org.uk) |
| 20:18.42 | Recluse | not for me atm, svn.wowace.com is down as well for me |
| 20:19.02 | Nickenyfiken_ | yeah |
| 20:19.08 | Nickenyfiken_ | both svn and dev is down |
| 20:20.59 | dreamss | any gems experts here |
| 20:22.23 | dreamss | how the hell u get the gem color in wow |
| 20:23.20 | pastamancer | svn is back up |
| 20:23.29 | Nickenyfiken_ | yay |
| 20:23.33 | Nickenyfiken_ | thanks pasta |
| 20:23.45 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r48567 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: copypastelol |
| 20:23.58 | Fisker- | LULZ |
| 20:23.58 | *** part/#wowace shieldb (n=shieldb@ampache/staff/shieldb) |
| 20:24.02 | Fisker- | i had fun |
| 20:24.22 | cncfanatic1 | :o |
| 20:24.27 | cncfanatic1 | MS actualy makes good software too |
| 20:24.28 | cncfanatic1 | AMAZING |
| 20:25.00 | Fisker- | actually they've done for quite a while |
| 20:25.27 | cncfanatic1 | ~drm |
| 20:25.28 | purl | drm is, like, http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No (tm), or http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 20:25.32 | cncfanatic1 | that being their best :p |
| 20:25.38 | cncfanatic1 | syncToy is quite nice tbh, |
| 20:25.52 | orionshock | hehe .. someones forum sig "-- Friends help you move, *real* friends help you move bodies, and best friends help you make those bodies." |
| 20:26.31 | lolinternet | god damn it our lock is too stupid to aggro the black stalker |
| 20:26.44 | dreamss | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 20:26.50 | dreamss | thats hard |
| 20:29.42 | cncfanatic1 | g'night people |
| 20:29.45 | cncfanatic1 | going to get some sleeep |
| 20:32.30 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@c-67-166-39-47.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 20:33.14 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 20:33.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 20:35.30 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 20:35.35 | clad|book | zomg wb |
| 20:36.31 | CIA-22 | 03deccard * r48568 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 20:36.31 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 20:36.31 | CIA-22 | - improved SmartMinimize code for system messages |
| 20:37.07 | ckknight | zomg hai guise |
| 20:37.20 | Fisker- | oh hai |
| 20:37.38 | CIA-22 | 03elkano 07Alpha * r48569 10Ace3/AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua: |
| 20:37.38 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - AceTimer |
| 20:37.38 | CIA-22 | no need to cache newbucket in a var |
| 20:37.52 | Fisker- | i like Ace3 because of all the buckets |
| 20:37.55 | Fisker- | can i has bucket? |
| 20:38.01 | Fisker- | oh noes dey be stealin my bucket |
| 20:38.10 | *** join/#wowace Gl0bal (n=e@cpe-67-49-60-144.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 20:38.11 | durcyn | you can't haz bucket |
| 20:38.15 | Fisker- | noes |
| 20:38.17 | Nickenyfiken_ | If i have addon x that do if y:IsModuleActive("module") |
| 20:38.18 | ckknight | Rock has bukkits |
| 20:38.24 | Nickenyfiken_ | in its OnEnable |
| 20:38.30 | Fisker- | but not buckets :( |
| 20:38.39 | ckknight | well, bukkits > buckets |
| 20:38.41 | ckknight | you know this. |
| 20:38.42 | Nickenyfiken_ | i.e. addon x whats to do something if addon y has a module active |
| 20:38.47 | ckknight | right, Nickenyfiken |
| 20:39.04 | Nickenyfiken_ | What happens if addon x is enabled before addon y? |
| 20:39.08 | Nickenyfiken_ | That wont work right? |
| 20:40.06 | CIA-22 | 03elkano 07Alpha * r48570 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 20:40.06 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - AceAddon |
| 20:40.06 | CIA-22 | don't store return values in module if the function doesn't return anything |
| 20:40.14 | ckknight | well, actually, the enable state is true even before OnEnable |
| 20:40.19 | ckknight | cause it checks the database |
| 20:40.47 | Nickenyfiken_ | Ah ok |
| 20:41.31 | Fisker- | nooooo |
| 20:41.41 | Fisker- | they be puttin rock on my bucket |
| 20:41.48 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:41.55 | ckknight | it's fun to do that with cats |
| 20:41.56 | Nickenyfiken_ | But if the module in addon y disable itself during its OnEnable... |
| 20:43.01 | Antiarc | http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=359313 |
| 20:44.16 | kadrahil | ckknight: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZLJQdQt65JE |
| 20:45.22 | CIA-22 | 03elkano 07Alpha * r48571 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0/AceEvent-3.0.lua: |
| 20:45.22 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - AceEvent |
| 20:45.22 | CIA-22 | - split RegOrUnreg into two functions |
| 20:45.22 | CIA-22 | - fixed error messages in that functions (since also messages could error) |
| 20:47.36 | Ominous_ | Kaelten: how is ace3 coming along? |
| 20:47.37 | ckknight | lol, kadrahil |
| 20:48.33 | Dotted | what is ace3 exactly? i mean ace2 was the move to embedded libs (roughly), what is ace3 gonna be? |
| 20:48.58 | orionshock | ~ace3 |
| 20:48.59 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ace3 is an addon framework for World of Warcraft to make writing addons easier. The primary difference from Ace2 is to be more interoperable with as many frameworks as possible, allowing only bits and pieces to be chosen for addons, and no longer be a one megabyte monster. |
| 20:49.17 | orionshock | hey it worked... |
| 20:49.18 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 20:49.19 | purl | from memory, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. |
| 20:49.20 | ckknight | gotta go |
| 20:49.24 | ckknight | schooltime |
| 20:49.28 | orionshock | lol |
| 20:49.30 | Nickenyfiken_ | kadrahil: that is no fun at all |
| 20:49.39 | kadrahil | Nickenyfiken_: :( |
| 20:49.44 | orionshock | ckknight: plz say ur in collage... |
| 20:50.05 | ckknight | off to homeroom, Mrs. Henderson doesn't like tardiness |
| 20:50.16 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:50.18 | ckknight | jk |
| 20:50.21 | kadrahil | haha |
| 20:50.21 | orionshock | lawls... |
| 20:51.03 | orionshock | if that was true that would be very .. very insulting to alot of people... :P |
| 20:52.43 | Funkeh` | Hes late for a session with your mom |
| 20:52.48 | ulic | ~ckknight |
| 20:52.49 | purl | ckknight is a strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 20:53.08 | ulic | guess that doesn't say that he'sin college. |
| 20:53.46 | Nickenyfiken_ | ~emulate girlfriend |
| 20:54.00 | clad|book | ~girlfriend |
| 20:54.06 | Clashen | ~penis |
| 20:54.07 | purl | i guess penis is the DESTROYER of worlds |
| 20:54.11 | clad|book | lol |
| 20:54.13 | Clashen | i guess... |
| 20:54.28 | Funkeh` | err |
| 20:54.46 | orionshock | lol |
| 20:55.53 | Nickenyfiken_ | ~girlfirendwithpenis |
| 20:56.38 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r48572 10BigWigs/ (20 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: speedups & tweaks |
| 20:57.27 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48573 10Ace3/AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua: |
| 20:57.27 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - AceTimer-3.0 |
| 20:57.27 | CIA-22 | - use the same check used in AceEvent and AceBucket for calling the callback |
| 20:57.58 | orionshock | ...now there is an odd point that i found myself making on the forums... if the framework loads the libs... then the client has to stop in the middle of loading one addon to load another... if they where listed as an opt-dep then the client would just load it first and not have to stop to load it... |
| 20:58.22 | orionshock | i wonder if thats whats causing it to take 1min + for my client to loadup |
| 20:59.37 | Kaelten | Ominous_: well :) |
| 20:59.40 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r48574 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: Cartographer_Trainers: Fix for not being able to load when TrainerFu is running. |
| 21:00.30 | Ominous_ | Kaelten: nice |
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| 21:06.51 | CIA-22 | 03deccard * r48575 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 21:06.51 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 21:06.51 | CIA-22 | - last changes reverted |
| 21:08.28 | Recluse | do i even want to know how a conversation about ckknight turned into one about girls with penises? D= |
| 21:09.18 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r48576 10AtlasLoot/AtlasLoot.toc: |
| 21:09.18 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 21:09.18 | CIA-22 | -Dewdrop was listed twice in the TOC |
| 21:10.11 | CIA-22 | 03deccard * r48577 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 21:10.11 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 21:10.11 | CIA-22 | - Had some problems with the SVN. Don't panic! |
| 21:11.43 | Recluse | lol |
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| 21:14.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:15.13 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:15.25 | Chompers | hello |
| 21:16.21 | ckknight | kadrahil: (wrt cat spa) I don't know why so many people are bitching in the comments |
| 21:17.01 | Ominous_ | ckknight: i swear you said you had to go to school 30mins ago =P |
| 21:17.14 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:17.18 | ckknight | I'm at school |
| 21:17.21 | Ominous_ | ah |
| 21:17.36 | CIA-22 | 03gnarfoz * r48578 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.enUS.lua: FuBar_FriendsFu - Fix a stupid mistake :) |
| 21:20.32 | ckknight | orionshock: I started working on WoW stuff before college |
| 21:22.44 | asmodai | mmm, I don't get this |
| 21:23.03 | asmodai | OneBank is not allowing me to place items into a 12 slot bag I added into the bank |
| 21:25.06 | asmodai | If I switch the bags around the last bag position bag is not clickable, but the items do fill up the spaces |
| 21:25.29 | asmodai | I wonder what's going on |
| 21:28.28 | asmodai | reloadui clears it though |
| 21:28.30 | asmodai | got to be a bug |
| 21:28.58 | asmodai | jesus |
| 21:29.05 | asmodai | now OneBag is not selectable |
| 21:29.19 | asmodai | Talk about two flakey addons |
| 21:29.22 | asmodai | :S |
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| 21:38.34 | asmodai | Guess OneView gets in the way |
| 21:47.51 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r48579 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: |
| 21:47.51 | CIA-22 | Waterfall-1.0: |
| 21:47.51 | CIA-22 | -Make dragLink work |
| 21:47.52 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r48580 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: added default strings |
| 21:48.23 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r48581 10lern2count/Core.lua: lern2count: rewrote the update part, more readable and slightly faster |
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| 21:48.43 | ag` | guys |
| 21:48.51 | ag` | chronometer tracking dots |
| 21:49.09 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r48582 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Fixed a fat finger error. |
| 21:49.15 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r48583 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: |
| 21:49.15 | CIA-22 | Waterfall-1.0: |
| 21:49.15 | CIA-22 | -Fix minor code necrosis |
| 21:49.15 | ag` | it's kinda flakey, and with the new thingy that actually tracks durations of dots it should be possible to make it better |
| 21:49.30 | ag` | so is there anything that's better out there for tracking dot timers |
| 21:49.49 | Gnarfoz | antagonist? |
| 21:50.48 | ag` | that's an enemy cast bar |
| 21:51.05 | Gnarfoz | dunno, DoTimer? |
| 21:51.06 | ag` | "what won't it do" section on the wiki: Track the player's buffs/debuffs |
| 21:51.11 | Gnarfoz | DotDotDot |
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| 21:52.23 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 21:52.27 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 713 messages. Is idling for 4h 28m 39s, last said: 'the problem asises from virii that embed into services or key system files, and don't do much more than carry the payload to create the virus or trojan.'. |
| 21:52.27 | Pkekyo | art3mis: ping? |
| 21:53.02 | Hjalte | ag`, classtimer or quartz. |
| 21:53.14 | ag` | Hjalte, thanks I'll check them out |
| 21:53.38 | Hjalte | ag`, there's the thing with both though, that they only show timers for your current target. |
| 21:53.48 | ag` | it's fine with me |
| 21:53.58 | ag` | ty |
| 21:54.21 | ag` | the problem with chronometer is that sometimes it just removes debuffs from the display even if yours is still on the target |
| 21:56.22 | Elkano | Gnarfoz, so you've seen what you did there in FriendsFu? ;) |
| 21:56.36 | Gnarfoz | Elkano: yes, oops :D |
| 21:58.25 | Pkekyo | what week # is it? |
| 21:58.30 | Pkekyo | 36? 37? |
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| 21:59.31 | sb | yess |
| 21:59.34 | sb | vashj down :) |
| 22:00.33 | dodga | gz :> |
| 22:00.56 | Pkekyo | congrats |
| 22:01.06 | Pkekyo | which reminds me: woop woop! kara cleared! |
| 22:01.16 | dodga | kaelthas is some biggedibitch.. :D |
| 22:01.38 | Morgh | Kael'thas is only eclipsed by C'Thun, seriously >.> |
| 22:01.48 | dodga | I liked the C'thun fight :D |
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| 22:02.06 | Morgh | I mean in difficulty |
| 22:02.17 | dodga | Oh I see |
| 22:02.23 | dodga | Yeah, so many people need to not fuck up... |
| 22:02.44 | Morgh | 40! people can't fuck up <.< |
| 22:02.52 | dodga | Yeah right. |
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| 22:05.03 | sb | hmm welll - same with vashj? |
| 22:05.18 | sb | i lost core -> problem |
| 22:05.19 | Morgh | Vashj is a cake-walk compared to Kael and c'thun |
| 22:05.27 | sb | mhh i know :/ |
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| 22:07.30 | Morgh | Tekkub: What're the slash-commands, and pet-filtering options for CorkFu? |
| 22:07.48 | Gnarfoz | sb: just save up cores on logged-out people... ;D |
| 22:07.52 | Tekkub | no slashes, they should show up in the menus |
| 22:08.03 | Tekkub | unless I never did add them, fuck if I know |
| 22:08.05 | Morgh | I don't see anything like that. |
| 22:08.07 | Morgh | :OP |
| 22:08.12 | CIA-22 | 03lhooq * r48584 10Chaman2/: Chaman2 : v25b |
| 22:08.31 | Morgh | No idea how to detach the tooltip either |
| 22:08.32 | Tekkub | I prolly had a ticket and lost it, 4 issue trackers ago |
| 22:08.51 | Morgh | hahaha :) |
| 22:09.17 | sb | Gnancy: shhhh :p |
| 22:09.24 | sb | err Gnarfoz |
| 22:09.37 | Gnarfoz | it's basically the ez-mode switch for the fight, lol |
| 22:11.53 | Chompers | how long did it take your guilds to go from VR/lurker/mag to vashj? |
| 22:14.26 | Gnarfoz | (can't say, we're still on lurker ;D if we manage to have enough signups to actually fill a raid :|_ |
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| 22:15.39 | Kaelten | oh speaking of issue trackers, I'm going to be killing trac soon |
| 22:16.08 | Ominous_ | Kaelten: would it be possible to remove the need to login to make a ticket in the new system |
| 22:16.18 | Kaelten | no |
| 22:16.19 | Funkeh` | bad Kaelten |
| 22:16.40 | Kaelten | I don't want to have a million batshit Viagra ads on jira |
| 22:17.25 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 22:17.27 | Pkekyo | <--- need movie recommendations, asap, not porn :) |
| 22:17.44 | ckknight | Lord of the G-Strings |
| 22:17.52 | ckknight | wait, you said _not porn_ |
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| 22:18.00 | ckknight | in all seriousness, check out Lord of the G-Strings |
| 22:18.02 | ckknight | it's hilarious |
| 22:18.03 | Kaelten | Pkekyo: Employee of the Month |
| 22:18.14 | hyperChipmunk | Down Periscope |
| 22:18.36 | Chompers | watch a show called 'weeds' |
| 22:18.38 | Chompers | it's great |
| 22:18.58 | clad|book | weeds is a spectacular show |
| 22:18.59 | Funkeh` | I recommend 'Do you know which mom I did last summer?' |
| 22:19.07 | Morgh | hahaha |
| 22:19.28 | Chompers | NightHawk makes those jokes Funkeh` |
| 22:19.32 | Chompers | not you :< |
| 22:19.40 | Funkeh` | NightHawk is a pansy |
| 22:19.44 | hyperChipmunk | i don't think he was joking |
| 22:20.15 | ckknight | Weeds is pretty good |
| 22:20.19 | Funkeh` | oh well |
| 22:20.20 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 22:20.21 | ckknight | Dexter's also good |
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| 22:22.15 | Chompers | Mad Men also |
| 22:22.54 | ckknight | oh yes, great show |
| 22:22.57 | ckknight | you see the last one, Chompers |
| 22:22.58 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:23.02 | Chompers | sure did |
| 22:23.07 | Chompers | it's getting better every week |
| 22:23.11 | ckknight | was interesting, to say the least |
| 22:23.34 | ckknight | I liked the part at the end where the hipsters told him that he couldn't go out |
| 22:23.40 | ckknight | then he corrected them |
| 22:23.45 | Chompers | "you can't, but i can" |
| 22:23.59 | Chompers | then strolls out |
| 22:26.59 | Silowyi | does anyone know of / can link an addon that automates creating and trading water? :P |
| 22:27.09 | Silowyi | this is getting effing ridiculous |
| 22:28.23 | ckknight | get a pet mage. |
| 22:28.41 | Silowyi | this is for my mage :P |
| 22:28.45 | ckknight | oh |
| 22:28.47 | ckknight | you're the pet |
| 22:28.55 | Chompers | *bitch |
| 22:28.58 | Silowyi | well techincally |
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| 22:29.04 | Silowyi | my mage is on account #1 |
| 22:29.04 | ckknight | Hi, Mr. Soda machine |
| 22:29.08 | Silowyi | and my druid is on account #2 |
| 22:29.13 | Silowyi | and the druid heals for the mage |
| 22:29.14 | Chompers | there are addons that automatically place food/water into the trade windowe |
| 22:29.24 | Silowyi | so it's more that I'm the healbitch |
| 22:29.27 | Silowyi | for the waterbot |
| 22:29.36 | Silowyi | Chompers yes, that |
| 22:29.40 | Silowyi | but I'm lazy |
| 22:29.50 | Silowyi | so I figured I'd have #wowace recommend and link one to me |
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| 22:29.59 | Silowyi | phear the ebil |
| 22:30.18 | ckknight | I don't play a mage |
| 22:30.28 | Chompers | you don't play. |
| 22:30.39 | ckknight | I have a 52 pally |
| 22:30.43 | Chompers | 52! |
| 22:30.48 | Chompers | not bad, it's gone up |
| 22:30.51 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:30.56 | ckknight | I'll make raid mods yet |
| 22:30.57 | Chompers | you're in the worst area for leveling |
| 22:30.59 | ckknight | ...eventually |
| 22:31.02 | ckknight | WPL? |
| 22:31.16 | Chompers | no no, the 40-60 bracket |
| 22:31.22 | ckknight | 40-58, you mean |
| 22:31.24 | ckknight | hehe |
| 22:31.29 | ckknight | I've been prot AoEing |
| 22:31.29 | Chompers | haha, yeah |
| 22:31.32 | ckknight | seems to be working out |
| 22:31.41 | ckknight | takes me about 2 hours to level |
| 22:31.47 | Chompers | i went to hellfire at 58, did the item giving quests then went back to epl |
| 22:31.58 | Silowyi | ckknight how many addons have you created/do you maintain not counting libraries |
| 22:32.05 | Chompers | lots of exp you should'nt miss out on |
| 22:32.14 | ckknight | Silowyi: counting FuBar plugins? |
| 22:32.34 | ckknight | Chompers: probably right, I dunno, though |
| 22:32.34 | Silowyi | FuBar plugins that were more than wrappers for other addons, yes |
| 22:32.44 | ckknight | oh, yea, I don't make those ones |
| 22:32.45 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:32.47 | ckknight | 18 |
| 22:32.50 | ckknight | give or take |
| 22:32.51 | Silowyi | 18 addons |
| 22:32.54 | ckknight | that seems about right, though |
| 22:32.56 | Silowyi | and only lvl 52 |
| 22:33.03 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 22:33.08 | Chompers | totally worth it ckk, i've been healing in 25 mans recently |
| 22:33.08 | ckknight | notice how I have no raid addons |
| 22:33.08 | Silowyi | hehe |
| 22:33.09 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:33.12 | Chompers | lots of fun |
| 22:33.19 | Silowyi | clearly your passion is for lua and not WoW :) |
| 22:33.24 | ckknight | Chompers: I'm fond of healing. It's all a big numbers game |
| 22:33.37 | ckknight | Silowyi: yep, and I'm good at it ;-) I just hate dealing with the drama that goes with it |
| 22:34.04 | Chompers | having a fast heal is awesome, it's great to sneak a few heals in before a priests' heal lands |
| 22:34.25 | Silowyi | drama can be fun |
| 22:34.27 | ckknight | what do you use? |
| 22:34.35 | Silowyi | back before TBC, I used to be "guild poison" |
| 22:34.37 | ckknight | FoL or low normal heal? |
| 22:34.46 | ckknight | Silowyi: howso? |
| 22:34.49 | Silowyi | I would join a guild, get popular, then start rumors about the leaders/other officers |
| 22:34.54 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:35.05 | Chompers | FoL max rank at the moment, going to move to HL rank 4 when i've got enough +heal |
| 22:35.23 | Silowyi | well it wasn't intentional |
| 22:35.32 | Chompers | HL max rank for those 'OH SHIT' moments |
| 22:35.36 | Silowyi | it was just at that point in time I wasn't very good at resisting the urge to ruin idiots |
| 22:35.42 | Silowyi | and I had a lot of idiot guild leaders |
| 22:36.15 | Silowyi | that stopped when I joined Prodigy back before 1.9... Yuckie was cool |
| 22:36.36 | Silowyi | now I don't care enough about the game to enjoy drama |
| 22:36.47 | Silowyi | I just play for fun and raiding :) |
| 22:37.01 | Silowyi | and pvp |
| 22:37.31 | Silowyi | Does anyone here ever report people who annoy you in trade chat using the Report Spam feature? |
| 22:37.47 | Silowyi | when I'm bored I'll sit in shattrath and file a couple dozen reports |
| 22:38.09 | Silowyi | there's almost always someone spamming. |
| 22:38.25 | Silowyi | sort of like, me, right now in this channel... >.> ... *fade to silent* |
| 22:39.01 | CIA-22 | 03lhooq * r48585 10Chaman2/ (17 files in 3 dirs): Chaman2: 25b |
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| 22:42.31 | Silowyi | hmm perhaps with a bit of rephrasing |
| 22:42.46 | Silowyi | Is there an Ace2 addon that automates water making/trading? |
| 22:43.05 | Tuller | ~emulate Saien |
| 22:43.06 | purl | Your question is not very descriptive, helpful, or useful in any manner. |
| 22:43.15 | Chompers | harsh |
| 22:43.23 | Silowyi | rofl |
| 22:43.30 | Tuller | err, not in reference to Silowyi :) |
| 22:43.37 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 22:43.45 | Silowyi | wonder what all Purl can do |
| 22:43.49 | Silowyi | ~emulate Chompers |
| 22:43.52 | Silowyi | bah |
| 22:44.03 | Silowyi | it should pick up lines/names from the channel and such |
| 22:44.09 | Silowyi | ~commands |
| 22:44.11 | Silowyi | ~help |
| 22:44.12 | Silowyi | ~list |
| 22:44.13 | purl | one warez list being sent |
| 22:44.15 | Silowyi | ~beuseful |
| 22:44.19 | Diao | lol |
| 22:44.20 | Silowyi | ah |
| 22:44.22 | Silowyi | one of those worked |
| 22:44.27 | Diao | autotrading maybe |
| 22:44.32 | Chompers | holy multi-line chat batman! |
| 22:44.35 | Diao | i don't think you can automate watermaking |
| 22:45.05 | Silowyi | ~uc |
| 22:45.12 | Silowyi | that was... useful |
| 22:45.19 | Silowyi | ~wtf |
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| 22:46.04 | Silowyi | ~wikipedia Silowyi |
| 22:46.14 | Silowyi | nifty |
| 22:46.25 | Chompers | i had a look for you Silowyi, no luck |
| 22:46.29 | Silowyi | :p |
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| 22:47.02 | Silowyi | it's too bad there's not a language filter on this channel |
| 22:47.06 | Silowyi | frick! |
| 22:47.09 | Silowyi | s/ri/u/ |
| 22:47.17 | Silowyi | that'd be fun |
| 22:47.27 | Chompers | cock balls ass |
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| 22:53.28 | Chompers | moved rooms ckknight? |
| 22:54.14 | ckknight | Chompers: :-P |
| 22:55.18 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r48586 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:55.18 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 22:55.18 | CIA-22 | - Raw Spinefin Halibut 8959 moved to edible |
| 22:55.18 | CIA-22 | - Boiled Clams (5525) added to Consumable.Food.Buff |
| 22:55.18 | CIA-22 | - Fissure Plant (5066) |
| 22:55.18 | CIA-22 | - Star's Lament added |
| 22:56.21 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r48587 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: Council deDE update |
| 22:58.48 | Antiarc | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3260/#comment_290375 |
| 22:58.50 | Antiarc | Rate it up. <_< |
| 22:59.15 | Chompers | 3/5 isnt what it deserves |
| 22:59.31 | Chompers | i tell you, kenco has his hired goons lowering it |
| 22:59.54 | Antiarc | I was actually talking about my comment on DoTimer |
| 23:00.00 | ckknight | Kenco has goons? |
| 23:00.06 | Antiarc | But I really don't care about Omen's rating. The numbers speak for themselves :P |
| 23:00.07 | Chompers | yeah, i should've read the link first |
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| 23:00.19 | Antiarc | Every major raiding guild in the world that I'm aware of has switched to Omen |
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| 23:00.34 | Antiarc | Which is kinda epeen++ / *buffs fingernails* for me |
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| 23:01.11 | Chompers | graphs + threat = ohmy |
| 23:03.16 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42334 |
| 23:03.18 | Antiarc | Iiiinteresting |
| 23:03.29 | Ominous | whats the mime type for a .wmv file? |
| 23:03.36 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42335 |
| 23:03.49 | Corgan | [12:43:46] * Quits: @ckknight (n=ckknight@cpe-67-49-153-42.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 23:03.51 | Corgan | hawaii :o? |
| 23:04.01 | ckknight | yep. |
| 23:04.09 | Corgan | which island |
| 23:04.15 | ckknight | O'ahu |
| 23:04.16 | Corgan | pff |
| 23:04.17 | Chompers | he's only there to be an extra on Lost |
| 23:04.19 | Corgan | Maui > All |
| 23:04.30 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 23:04.43 | ckknight | maybe if you're a tourist |
| 23:04.50 | ckknight | Honolulu is just a giant strip mall |
| 23:05.05 | Corgan | heh |
| 23:05.25 | Corgan | ugh brb |
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| 23:08.02 | ckknight | alright, bbl |
| 23:08.12 | Chompers | cya |
| 23:21.19 | CIA-22 | 03starinnia * r48588 10SimpleMD/ (7 files): |
| 23:21.19 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 23:21.19 | CIA-22 | - Added option to broadcast to raid or party chat |
| 23:21.19 | CIA-22 | - Some code cleanup |
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| 23:32.37 | Nickenyfiken_ | Bah stupid modulecore |
| 23:32.53 | Nickenyfiken_ | When i disable a module it gets loaded after a reload ui |
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| 23:39.50 | Tem | Nickenyfiken_, sounds like you don't have a DB |
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| 23:42.51 | Nickenyfiken_ | Yeah, but I have. Don't seem to save it though. |
| 23:44.18 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: omen seems to call whatever function is called when you do /omen toggle also when you do /omen standby |
| 23:44.28 | Nickenyfiken_ | Hmm seems to me that other Cartographer modules have this problem too *shrug* |
| 23:44.31 | Gnarfoz | which means: if the window is hidden, it'll get shown if I do /omen standby o_O |
| 23:44.34 | Nickenyfiken_ | atleast on my computer |
| 23:44.56 | Nickenyfiken_ | Tried with Cartographer_Trainers and when i enable it and then reload ui it is still disabled |
| 23:45.08 | CIA-22 | 03rophy 07Alpha * r48589 10Ace3/tests/ (AceTimer-3.0.lua wow_api.lua): |
| 23:45.08 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - tests: |
| 23:45.08 | CIA-22 | - wow_api: added OnUpdate and WoWAPI_FireUpdate() |
| 23:45.08 | CIA-22 | - added AceTimer-3.0 test. |
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| 23:49.37 | CIA-22 | 03woody * r48590 10Modality/ (Bindings.xml Core.lua res/Locale-enUS.lua): Modality: Removing the last of the unneeded legacy keybindings. |
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| 23:54.10 | NeoTron | Nickenyfiken_: Check your AddOns.txt for a line without a module name |
| 23:54.14 | cchome | damn is violation broken?? |
| 23:54.19 | NeoTron | like this => ": enabled" |
| 23:57.42 | Kaelten | http://images.curse.com/details/37352/ lmao |
