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| 00:04.56 | Mecdemort | hmm lookup table or a couple if elseifs |
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| 00:10.50 | Xinhuan | l-o-l |
| 00:11.06 | TNSe | kumusta :P |
| 00:11.27 | TNSe | wait |
| 00:11.29 | TNSe | that was philipino |
| 00:11.54 | TNSe | so hows singapore now that you are no longer under western control |
| 00:12.30 | Xinhuan | who are you talking to? |
| 00:12.40 | TNSe | no idea |
| 00:15.55 | Xinhuan | hmm how hard would it be to write a talent planner addon |
| 00:16.10 | Mikk | !t http://www.redcoat.net/pics/tubgirl.jpg lol funny car crash |
| 00:16.11 | ThraeBot | Mikk: http://tinyurl.com/wn0 lol funny car crash |
| 00:16.57 | NeoTron | Mikk: evil |
| 00:17.03 | kenlyric | hmmm... quartz can't show buffs with no time on them? |
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| 00:18.20 | NeoTron | for kael'thas is high FR required ont he FR lock or can you get by with average FR (having better dps in other phases)? |
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| 00:18.47 | Xinhuan | average FR will do |
| 00:18.58 | Xinhuan | doesn't even require soullink |
| 00:19.10 | kenlyric | I can turn off target buffs on the UF entirely if quartz would show them. |
| 00:19.13 | Xinhuan | but you can get by with less with sl |
| 00:19.47 | TNSe | Xinhuan, talent planner addon as in a talent calculator? :P |
| 00:19.53 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:20.00 | TNSe | heh |
| 00:20.00 | Xinhuan | apart from "Talent Planner 2" |
| 00:20.15 | TNSe | dunno, if you can copy the interface that already exists |
| 00:20.19 | TNSe | it wouldn't be so hard I guess |
| 00:20.39 | TNSe | although I suspect you're gonna have to do more than that :P |
| 00:20.46 | Xinhuan | its actually pretty hard because the default UI one only lets you access your class talents |
| 00:20.56 | Xinhuan | i can't for eg, look at warlock talents while on a mage |
| 00:21.19 | TNSe | then you'll have to make a manual table |
| 00:21.33 | TNSe | with tooltips and everything I guess |
| 00:21.40 | Xinhuan | sounds like a pain in the ass |
| 00:21.41 | TNSe | but good parts about such an addon |
| 00:21.49 | TNSe | would be that using internal communication channels |
| 00:21.54 | TNSe | you could have your guild install it |
| 00:21.59 | TNSe | and query their build and so on |
| 00:22.03 | TNSe | and help them set up etc |
| 00:22.24 | TNSe | problem is getting everyone to install it :P |
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| 00:24.07 | yssaril | Xinhuan: check out http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talented |
| 00:24.27 | Xinhuan | got screenshots of it? |
| 00:24.44 | yssaril | hmmmm can get you one if i log in gimme a sec |
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| 00:37.01 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, talented screenshot = http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=o |
| 00:37.13 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 00:37.33 | Xinhuan | except that's not really a screenshot |
| 00:37.34 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:37.38 | Gngsk | it's what it looks like anyway |
| 00:37.44 | Gngsk | talent pane with all 3 trees showing instead of just 1 |
| 00:40.14 | CIA-22 | 03smcn * r48342 10BagPress/ (BagPress.lua BagPress.toc BagPressLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 00:40.14 | CIA-22 | BagPress: |
| 00:40.14 | CIA-22 | - |
| 00:40.14 | CIA-22 | - Added AceLocale support |
| 00:40.14 | CIA-22 | - Removed debug stuff |
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| 00:44.37 | yssaril | Xinhuan: here you go http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5879/wowscrnshot090607194112qr7.jpg |
| 00:44.51 | yssaril | sry for the delay my connection went broke for a sec |
| 00:45.21 | Mecdemort | when UNIT_TARGET how could i find out if it was targettarget that changed? |
| 00:45.46 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 00:46.11 | yssaril | Mecdemort: record what your target and targettarget is and when the event fires check wich one changed and resave the new one |
| 00:47.21 | Mecdemort | ok thanks |
| 00:47.28 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, told ya! |
| 00:47.51 | Xinhuan | does Jerry ever come on IRC? |
| 00:47.56 | Xinhuan | perhaps i can work something out with him |
| 00:48.00 | yssaril | Xinhuan: my favorite feature about talented is you can create templates that you can apply in seconds say you have two specs you go between save both and then when you unlearn the talents you can relearn them by clicking one button |
| 00:48.04 | Gngsk | yssaril, 992 ms :\ |
| 00:48.16 | Xinhuan | since i use 2 of his libraries |
| 00:48.45 | yssaril | Gngsk: that was right after logging in the middle of shat it declines to 50-100 from there |
| 00:49.03 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 00:49.10 | Gngsk | logging into shattrath affects your ping? |
| 00:49.29 | CIA-22 | 03smcn * r48343 10BagPress/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 00:49.29 | CIA-22 | BagPress: |
| 00:49.29 | CIA-22 | - |
| 00:49.29 | CIA-22 | - Fixing externals, newbie mistakes :) |
| 00:49.42 | yssaril | dont think so but i think it freaks out the way it gets reported /idk |
| 00:52.38 | Mecdemort | doh, arg1 of UNIT_TARGET is which unit changed targets |
| 00:53.52 | yssaril | or that :P |
| 01:00.49 | Mecdemort | that's what i get for skimming the events page |
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| 01:05.42 | ckknight | you know what I despise? |
| 01:05.53 | ckknight | being pushed around for someone else's idea of a "greater good" |
| 01:06.04 | Cidan | Jesus |
| 01:06.08 | Xinhuan | i was about to say "your mum" :) |
| 01:06.09 | Cidan | You may as well kill your self now |
| 01:06.20 | ckknight | Cidan: stop trolling. |
| 01:06.26 | Cidan | I'm serious |
| 01:06.35 | Cidan | You will, as will I, or anyone else, be pushed around. |
| 01:06.49 | Cidan | This is the way of life, even if you are a leader. |
| 01:06.50 | JoshBorke | life's a bitch and then you die |
| 01:07.03 | ckknight | doesn't mean I can't despise it or try to change it |
| 01:07.16 | Cidan | You'll never change it, you'll only die trying. |
| 01:07.32 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 01:07.39 | Cidan | You can change the goal, maybe the objective |
| 01:08.02 | Cidan | But you can't change the method behind it, that is, pushing your idea on others. |
| 01:08.09 | ckknight | I don't buy into fascistic apathy |
| 01:08.10 | Cidan | For mearly trying to change it, is violating it. |
| 01:08.22 | Corey | communism! |
| 01:08.23 | Cidan | It's not, it's just the truth. |
| 01:08.59 | |Stan| | Cidan: wtf talkin shit |
| 01:09.20 | Cidan | |Stan|, er, okay. |
| 01:09.42 | JoshBorke | ckknight: how are you 'being pushed around for someone else's idea of a "greater good"' |
| 01:09.55 | JoshBorke | Cidan: yea cidan! WTF! |
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| 01:10.25 | ckknight | JoshBorke: there's lots of ways, and if I were to bring up the political instance, it'd incite another political dramafest, which I am unwilling to partake in |
| 01:10.31 | Cidan | Cidan: Yeah! WTF! How dare you be a scholar of history and all that shit, god damn it! |
| 01:10.38 | ckknight | err, the particular instance |
| 01:10.55 | JoshBorke | ckknight: but then why did you bring up the fact in the first place if you weren't willing to discuss it? |
| 01:11.18 | ckknight | I was just trying to rouse the idea, not the instance in which it occurs |
| 01:11.58 | JoshBorke | it seems like tehre were 2 separate issues in your statement which are not really connected. 1 is being pushed around which no one likes, the other being the reason behind the "pushing around" |
| 01:12.17 | Xinhuan | i think we should drop the subject. |
| 01:12.22 | ckknight | I'll accept that as valid |
| 01:12.28 | ckknight | also, Xinhuan has the right idea |
| 01:12.34 | Corey | i like potatoes, how about you? |
| 01:12.45 | |Stan| | Xinhuan: /sign |
| 01:12.52 | Xinhuan | i like fried potatoes more |
| 01:13.08 | Xinhuan | "french fries" are fried potatoes! |
| 01:13.21 | Corey | theres a form of potatoes for anyone, fries, baked etc |
| 01:13.23 | Corey | who could hate them |
| 01:13.30 | Xinhuan | potato haters |
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| 01:13.36 | ckknight | people with anti-potato agendas |
| 01:13.46 | Cidan | I dislike french fries, I think they are a communist creation. |
| 01:13.50 | Cidan | What do you all think of it? |
| 01:13.51 | Cidan | I KID |
| 01:13.53 | Corey | the nudists must love them too, potatoes are always naked |
| 01:13.55 | Cidan | :D |
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| 01:15.15 | |Stan| | wtf |
| 01:15.22 | |Stan| | urt3hwierdo |
| 01:15.39 | Cidan | |Stan|, you should consider expanding that vocabulary |
| 01:15.43 | Cidan | Just a thought. |
| 01:16.03 | Corey | i also like hotdogs but i dont like thinking about whats in them |
| 01:17.32 | |Stan| | yes sorry but "wtf" was the only think that came to my mind when I read what you were writing. |
| 01:17.45 | Xinhuan | here is a youtube video if you're bored - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8syrP5HW1pg |
| 01:17.51 | Xinhuan | toilet pranks! |
| 01:18.53 | ckknight | alright, time to go |
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| 01:34.31 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: man that SO wouldn't work in the US :P |
| 01:34.40 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 01:35.52 | NeoTron | really weird toilets they have |
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| 01:38.47 | Xinhuan | its standard in japan |
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| 02:16.15 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30108 = MINE!!! |
| 02:16.44 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar: ping |
| 02:16.52 | sylvanaar | hmm |
| 02:16.57 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8245.0;topicseen |
| 02:17.01 | Xinhuan | i just noticed this (lol) |
| 02:17.26 | sylvanaar | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 02:17.31 | NightHawkTheSane | hah |
| 02:17.37 | Xinhuan | posted 3rd sept |
| 02:17.41 | Xinhuan | which was 3 days ago |
| 02:17.47 | Xinhuan | :) |
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| 02:18.21 | Xinhuan | are you planning some fun with that? hehe |
| 02:20.06 | sylvanaar | nah, he doesnt respond to humor very well |
| 02:20.28 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 02:28.38 | nogudnik | Is there WoW API call to get an item ID out of a link or do I just pull out the regex magic on the link string? |
| 02:29.12 | Azure | TecnoBrat: never dropped for us yet :/ |
| 02:29.57 | art3mis | wasnt that the same post from the wow forums? |
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| 02:47.24 | Funkeh` | later |
| 02:47.27 | Xinhuan | art3mis: yes :) |
| 02:47.48 | Xinhuan | nogudnik: regex magic |
| 02:48.15 | nogudnik | Xinhuan: Right, thanks. |
| 02:48.40 | Xinhuan | not very difficult at least |
| 02:49.03 | Xinhuan | strmatch(link, "item:(%d+)") will get the id |
| 02:49.04 | nogudnik | Especially when there are so many mod authors that must have had to do the same thing already .... |
| 02:49.25 | Xinhuan | its only a single strmatch() call |
| 02:49.36 | Xinhuan | having an API wouldn't make it faster or better |
| 02:50.17 | Xinhuan | note that the return value is still a STRING and you still need tonumber() if you plan to use it as a number in some way (say as a numeric index of a table) |
| 02:50.48 | nogudnik | faster no, but I think it would have been a better design to hide the details of what's in a link behind a nice API so that you're not tied to a specific implementation. Too much time writing libraries at work I guess. |
| 02:51.30 | Xinhuan | i don't actually agree |
| 02:51.38 | nogudnik | Oh? |
| 02:51.52 | Xinhuan | i prefer the full link so you can construct/parse the exact link you want |
| 02:52.54 | nogudnik | well yeah, having it exposed means that mod authors can rip it apart and put it back together any way that suits them, but it also means that Blizz is *very* limited as to what they can add/remove from links in future version. |
| 02:53.10 | Xinhuan | they did that already nogudnik |
| 02:53.32 | Xinhuan | prior to v2.0, itemlink formats are item:0:0:0:0 <-- 4 number parts |
| 02:53.37 | ulic | blizzard doesn't care a whole lot about addon authors. |
| 02:53.38 | Xinhuan | after 2.0, its now 8 number parts |
| 02:53.54 | Xinhuan | item:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0 |
| 02:53.55 | Xinhuan | that is |
| 02:54.10 | ulic | they try to be nice, but in the end it's whatever they need. |
| 02:54.11 | Xinhuan | that is how blizzard expanded the itemlink format to include gems (jewelcrafting) |
| 02:54.17 | nogudnik | Guess my newbness is showing, I was not mod hacking prior to 2.0. |
| 02:54.30 | Xinhuan | every single addon that used itemlinks had to be updated |
| 02:54.42 | Xinhuan | since old itemlinks were not compatible with new ones |
| 02:55.19 | nogudnik | ulic: I'm sure we're way down on their list, but I would have though that it would have made their (internal) developer's lives easier as well. Ph well. Different shops. Different ideas about what and how to code. |
| 02:55.46 | Xinhuan | many authors simply upgraded their itemlinks though, with a simple gsub(link, "item:(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+)", "item:%1:0:0:0:0:0:%3:%4") |
| 02:55.56 | Xinhuan | that upgrades a pre-tbc link to a TBC link |
| 02:56.12 | kadrahil | ret paladin utility: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/Subkiller20/illidan2.gif |
| 02:56.39 | Xinhuan | so it wasn't very difficult or painful |
| 02:59.00 | Arrowmaster | its actually item:0:0:0:0:0:0:-0:-0 the last two can be negative |
| 02:59.24 | Arrowmaster | and %d only matchs numbers not - |
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| 03:00.07 | Xinhuan | i was only referring to upgrading links ;p |
| 03:00.10 | Xinhuan | not parsing hehe |
| 03:00.33 | Mikk | i doubt very much they care about breaking addons when they feel that they need to change their itemlink structure |
| 03:00.37 | Xinhuan | :([-]?%d+): does get painful to use |
| 03:00.53 | Arrowmaster | :(-?%d+): |
| 03:01.04 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt need the [] |
| 03:01.10 | Xinhuan | that won't woek Arrowmaster |
| 03:01.13 | Xinhuan | - has special meaning |
| 03:01.14 | Mikk | - is a special character in lua patterns |
| 03:02.06 | Arrowmaster | oh right its one of those funky ass things lua does completely different than posix |
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| 03:04.08 | kaiden | Is it possible to do a fear ward monitor to just monitor a specific raid member for a certain buff and pop up an alert if it's not there? |
| 03:04.18 | kaiden | i would imagine the previous nerfs to logic wouldn't affect that |
| 03:04.50 | Xinhuan | yes its possible |
| 03:04.55 | Arrowmaster | if its just an alert then theres no limits to the logic |
| 03:05.04 | kaiden | Anyone know of any addons that do that then? :) |
| 03:05.09 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.12 | Xinhuan | probably not |
| 03:05.22 | Xinhuan | because your request is very specific |
| 03:05.39 | Mikk | mhm i've wanted it too |
| 03:05.41 | Xinhuan | but there is an addon called |
| 03:05.41 | Xinhuan | FuBar_CheckFearWardFu |
| 03:05.50 | Xinhuan | - Tracks the current Fear Ward's in the raid or party |
| 03:05.51 | Mikk | :O |
| 03:06.02 | Xinhuan | (CheckSoulstonesFu by lilcure - modified to CheckFearWardFu by Networkerror) |
| 03:06.21 | Xinhuan | but it still probably doesn't do what you want anyway |
| 03:06.37 | Xinhuan | because i'm guessing it's just a tooltip that shows who has SS or FW |
| 03:06.57 | Neebler | http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1451/42sa3heqd7.jpg |
| 03:08.15 | kaiden | i wonder if i could modify that to change the color of an eePanel :P |
| 03:08.17 | kaiden | that would be nice |
| 03:08.29 | kaiden | turn it red if it's not up on who i need it up on and back to default if it is hehe |
| 03:08.37 | kaiden | guess i'll look into that |
| 03:08.53 | art3mis | kaiden: mazzle does it with dart |
| 03:08.59 | art3mis | so shouldnt be that hard |
| 03:09.09 | art3mis | it's for aggro mind you but still |
| 03:09.12 | kaiden | nope not with AceHook |
| 03:09.20 | kaiden | same basic concept |
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| 03:11.38 | art3mis | oh hey kaiden that was 25/24 and 40/40 ? |
| 03:11.48 | kaiden | yes |
| 03:12.06 | kaiden | http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Nooble_03.jpg to see it with those numbers |
| 03:12.11 | kaiden | looks less stretched and more cropped |
| 03:13.03 | art3mis | for icon and overlay right? |
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| 03:14.27 | Xinhuan | is that hello kitty hting available publicly now? hehe |
| 03:15.55 | art3mis | yup its on wowi |
| 03:16.14 | Xinhuan | how many downloads does it have so far? :) |
| 03:16.14 | art3mis | hehe i figured out why people were still having a problem after i fixed the paths for the graphics too |
| 03:16.25 | art3mis | ppearantly i need to check im in the right dir ;) |
| 03:16.45 | kaiden | art3mis, yes icon/overlay |
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| 03:18.31 | art3mis | 118 for cycircled and 65 for hkui |
| 03:18.44 | art3mis | its appearantly like a car wrreck |
| 03:18.52 | art3mis | you wanna ignore it and walk away but you cant help yourself |
| 03:19.05 | Xinhuan | is that number of downloads over a period of 3 days or something? |
| 03:19.08 | kaiden | lol |
| 03:20.30 | art3mis | yeah since yesterday or so ;P |
| 03:20.40 | art3mis | or day before i dont remember |
| 03:20.43 | art3mis | but yeah |
| 03:21.11 | art3mis | nope yesterday at 3:11pm |
| 03:21.19 | art3mis | was when the ui was posted ;) |
| 03:23.36 | Xinhuan | what should be the MIME type for BLP files btw? |
| 03:23.45 | Xinhuan | when committing |
| 03:23.48 | Mikk | image/x-blp i'd guess |
| 03:24.12 | Xinhuan | so |
| 03:24.14 | Xinhuan | *.blp = svn:mime-type=image/x-blp |
| 03:24.14 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 03:24.37 | Mikk | no idea, never done automagic filters myself |
| 03:25.18 | Xinhuan | or just leave it alone, no mime-type property? |
| 03:25.38 | Mikk | well, setting mime-type is the friendly thing to do |
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| 03:27.18 | Arrowmaster | google it |
| 03:28.43 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1353.msg105931 |
| 03:28.50 | Mikk | ctrl+f for blp |
| 03:35.13 | Mecdemort | bah why does blizzard make things so hard |
| 03:36.45 | Mecdemort | ok so UNIT_HEALTH isn't fired with targettarget's health changes, so what is fired? |
| 03:37.11 | Shadowed | nothing last i checked |
| 03:37.22 | Shadowed | targettarget isn't an "offical" unitid |
| 03:37.51 | Shadowed | meaning an OnUpdate is required to monitor health/debuffs/ect |
| 03:38.02 | Mecdemort | poop |
| 03:38.38 | Xinhuan | nothing is fired Mecdemort |
| 03:38.44 | Xinhuan | Blizzards way of updating it is |
| 03:38.48 | Xinhuan | a OnUpdate function |
| 03:38.51 | Xinhuan | that does this |
| 03:38.51 | Xinhuan | if ( TargetofTargetFrame:IsShown() ~= UnitExists("targettarget") ) then TargetofTarget_Update(); end |
| 03:41.22 | Mecdemort | some of the ways these events are handled just seems like it would be so laggy |
| 03:41.32 | CIA-22 | 03xinhuan * r48344 10WoWEquip/ (10 files): WoWEquip: Initial Import (v0.7) - Try on different gear and see their total stats and their differences. |
| 03:44.44 | Mecdemort | bah they even include targettarget in the default UI now, why not make it a unitid |
| 03:44.57 | Mecdemort | ah well, no targettarget support yet |
| 03:45.41 | Mikk | hrm? |
| 03:45.45 | Mikk | targettarget is a unitid |
| 03:46.15 | Mikk | but yeah you don't get update message for them |
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| 03:46.57 | Xinhuan | its something blizzard added as an afterthought |
| 03:46.57 | CIA-22 | 03xinhuan * r48345 10WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Adding `svn:externals` and `tsvn:logtemplate` properties. |
| 03:46.59 | Xinhuan | i bet |
| 03:47.05 | Mikk | hardly |
| 03:47.10 | sylvanaar | im just figuring out how to use assessment, the menus are really complicated |
| 03:47.18 | Mikk | more like you'd be spammed senseless with messages if everything that could be reffed with unitids caused messages |
| 03:47.26 | Mikk | raid1targetpettargettarget |
| 03:47.35 | Mikk | whoot |
| 03:47.39 | Mikk | the chains get REALLY long |
| 03:47.49 | Xinhuan | but that's partly because you can attach any valid unitID with the "pet" and "target" suffix |
| 03:47.51 | Mikk | infinite, actually |
| 03:47.58 | Xinhuan | and you can recursively add those suffixes |
| 03:48.03 | Mikk | well, targettargettargettargettargettargettargettargettargettargettargettarget is a valid unitid |
| 03:48.17 | Mikk | still want updates for it? =P |
| 03:48.39 | Mikk | granted, targettarget would make lots of sense |
| 03:48.47 | Mecdemort | well sence the default UI doesnt have targettargettarget i would atleast expect them to support targettarget |
| 03:48.50 | Mikk | since, as you say, it's even in the ui |
| 03:48.57 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 03:49.01 | Xinhuan | blizzard dosen't provide Focus events i think lol |
| 03:49.06 | Mecdemort | yup |
| 03:49.06 | Xinhuan | think it does onupdates? |
| 03:49.46 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 03:49.57 | Mecdemort | "UNIT_FOCUS", and all the other ones that have to do with focus are mana? |
| 03:50.13 | Xinhuan | no clue |
| 03:50.25 | Xinhuan | didn't study the unitID event stuff |
| 03:50.45 | Xinhuan | its taking 3x as long to checkout, than to commit o_O |
| 03:51.25 | Shadowed | focus get events |
| 03:51.41 | Shadowed | essentially, theres offical unitids and ones we can use because we can chain them together |
| 03:52.20 | Shadowed | focus, party#, raid#, player, pet, raid#pet, party#pet, target are considered offical and we get events for them, the rest we don't because they're just being chained together |
| 03:52.25 | Shadowed | (pretty sure I missed one or two) |
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| 03:52.49 | Shadowed | UNIT_FOCUS refers to pets if i remember right |
| 03:53.06 | Mecdemort | 'used when a pets energy changes.' |
| 03:53.32 | sylvanaar | i think they piggybacked the concept |
| 03:53.53 | Shadowed | PLAYER_FOCUS_CHANGED is whats fired when your focus changes |
| 03:53.59 | Mecdemort | yup |
| 03:54.20 | Mecdemort | which is why i shall be alowing focus and not targettarget |
| 03:54.31 | Mikk | In very early beta, hunters didn't have mana. They had "focus". |
| 03:54.38 | Mikk | That concept stayed on for some pets. |
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| 03:54.48 | Shadowed | some? don't all pets use focus |
| 03:55.28 | Mikk | Ask a hunter :P |
| 03:55.30 | Shadowed | all hunter pets* |
| 03:55.35 | sylvanaar | they are a total mystey to me |
| 03:55.35 | Mecdemort | my pet uses mana? |
| 03:55.36 | Shadowed | afaik they do |
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| 03:56.17 | Mikk | Could have sworn I've seen rage too. But maybe I was looking at some ferlol :P |
| 03:56.29 | sylvanaar | all i know is that pets could have a focus which was whatever they were attacking |
| 03:56.41 | Mikk | hm? that's pettarget |
| 03:56.54 | sylvanaar | back then - thats what it was called |
| 03:56.54 | Mikk | focus is sort of energy for pets |
| 03:56.56 | sylvanaar | imo |
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| 03:57.51 | sylvanaar | ok, i thought it meant the target - but, i dont play a hunter |
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| 03:58.50 | sylvanaar | ask ^^ |
| 03:59.27 | Shadowed | focus is the pets mana bar, not the target |
| 03:59.44 | Shadowed | same as how rage and energy are |
| 03:59.50 | Shadowed | i'm pretty sure Mikk is just crazy |
| 03:59.55 | sylvanaar | allright |
| 03:59.56 | Shadowed | s/pretty/very/ |
| 04:01.00 | sylvanaar | where did they get the term focus from for a 2ndary player target |
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| 04:01.13 | sylvanaar | pet "mana" |
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| 04:01.58 | sylvanaar | you have messed up my sense of order and balance |
| 04:02.07 | Shadowed | I assume because you're focusing on the target |
| 04:02.28 | Shadowed | By setting focus, you're saying "I'm focusing on this target, give me better info" |
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| 04:02.58 | sylvanaar | but there is a term focus already though being used, why would they introduce a 2nd meaning |
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| 04:03.12 | Xinhuan | its Blizzard |
| 04:03.16 | Xinhuan | they can do whatever they want |
| 04:03.44 | Shadowed | Would you rather they call it "secondary unit for getting information" |
| 04:03.54 | sylvanaar | yeah offtarget |
| 04:04.05 | sylvanaar | target2 |
| 04:04.18 | sylvanaar | there are a million other ways to say it |
| 04:04.25 | sylvanaar | alttarget |
| 04:04.54 | Xinhuan | alttarget would imply there is a unitID called "alt" |
| 04:04.59 | sylvanaar | watchedunit |
| 04:05.02 | Xinhuan | same with offtarget |
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| 04:06.35 | sylvanaar | no |
| 04:06.51 | Shadowed | or |
| 04:06.53 | Shadowed | they could just call it |
| 04:06.54 | sylvanaar | because its first |
| 04:06.54 | Shadowed | focus |
| 04:07.13 | Shadowed | it's really not that focusing when you know the context |
| 04:11.31 | Mikk | sideshowbob |
| 04:11.35 | Mikk | there |
| 04:11.44 | sylvanaar | pets = happiness |
| 04:11.52 | Mikk | that's something else entirely |
| 04:12.01 | sylvanaar | thats pet mana |
| 04:12.07 | Mikk | er |
| 04:12.08 | Mikk | no |
| 04:12.15 | sylvanaar | in unitframe.lua |
| 04:12.19 | Mikk | happiness decays over the course of hours and is affected by e.g. pets dying |
| 04:12.44 | Mikk | it's basically "hunger" |
| 04:12.54 | Shadowed | Happiness is like the teksomething |
| 04:12.56 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r48346 10TimeToDie/Core.lua: |
| 04:12.56 | CIA-22 | TimeToDie: |
| 04:12.56 | CIA-22 | - Can now click through frame when locked. |
| 04:12.56 | CIA-22 | - New target option: will calculate based on your target or focus. |
| 04:12.58 | Shadowed | wtf are those annoying little pets |
| 04:13.12 | Shadowed | tomagachis or however you spell it |
| 04:13.43 | Mikk | tamagochi |
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| 04:14.00 | Shadowed | those |
| 04:14.12 | sylvanaar | lol |
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| 04:19.00 | Mikk | Can't that be the default? Just append more on the same line? |
| 04:19.23 | Mecdemort | hein? |
| 04:19.36 | sylvanaar | "Hunters require focus to use their abilities. Focus generates while standing still" |
| 04:19.42 | sylvanaar | its still there |
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| 04:19.47 | Mikk | ... |
| 04:19.58 | Mecdemort | smells like mana regen to me |
| 04:20.12 | Mikk | smells like an outdated text that needs to be replaced |
| 04:20.17 | sylvanaar | the string is still there tho |
| 04:20.33 | sylvanaar | FOCUS_COST_PER_TIME = "%d Focus, plus %d per sec"; |
| 04:20.40 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 04:21.03 | sylvanaar | ERR_OUT_OF_FOCUS = "Not enough focus" |
| 04:21.25 | Mikk | "You're too blurry!" |
| 04:21.33 | Mecdemort | lol |
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| 04:42.39 | sylvanaar | ~ /squint |
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| 04:47.20 | sylvanaar | "%s wants to resurrect you and will be able to in %d %s. You will be afflicted with resurrection sickness." |
| 04:47.33 | Mikk | crap rez |
| 04:48.02 | Mikk | wouldn't surprise me if it was the shaman rez |
| 04:50.56 | sylvanaar | "A duck walked into an apothecary and he said, \"Give me some chapstick, and put it on my bill.\"" |
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| 04:51.12 | sylvanaar | didnt know they were in text form |
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| 04:51.34 | Xinhuan | why does the PTR have so many mini patch updates grr |
| 04:51.48 | sylvanaar | "What's estrogen? Can you eat it?" |
| 04:52.57 | Gbyrd | its possible its a Gm ressing you |
| 04:53.07 | Gbyrd | although i wouldnt understand the fact that its giving you res sickness |
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| 05:04.18 | Mikk | and why you would have to wait |
| 05:05.12 | sylvanaar | "Yes, they're real. They're not mine, but they're real." |
| 05:05.24 | sylvanaar | sorry, i'll stop |
| 05:05.42 | sylvanaar | no, GM's wont rez you, i asked yesterday |
| 05:06.18 | sylvanaar | they like to service your ticket during boss encounters |
| 05:07.03 | sylvanaar | so i died as a result - and asked him to rez me - he said no |
| 05:07.51 | kaiden | my gm's always wait til 20 seconds after i log off which is only once a day to answer a ticket i started that morning |
| 05:09.45 | Shadowed | Actually GM's get in trouble if they do that too often |
| 05:10.58 | kaiden | yeah i somehow dont believe that |
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| 05:11.21 | Shadowed | Believe what you want, doesn't mean you're right |
| 05:11.37 | kaiden | nor does it mean you are lol :) experience tells me different |
| 05:11.47 | kaiden | and everyone is allowed to have their own beliefs after all hehe |
| 05:12.02 | Shadowed | Just like how people think that loot isn't random because they get double drop |
| 05:12.43 | kaiden | sadly nothing with computers is truely random :) |
| 05:13.04 | kaiden | appearances can be deceiving |
| 05:13.18 | Shadowed | okay let me rephrase that |
| 05:13.29 | Shadowed | You're being incredibly paranoid about something stupid |
| 05:13.46 | kaiden | and you are being incredibly stupid thinking that that was paranoia |
| 05:13.50 | Shadowed | and since an ex-GM specifically said that they get in trouble if they answer too many wrong, I'm going to believe him over you |
| 05:14.08 | kaiden | and who said anything about answering anything wrong |
| 05:14.33 | Shadowed | s/answer too many wrong/answer if you're offline |
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| 05:19.31 | Gbyrd | yeah i wouldnt be surprised |
| 05:19.41 | Gbyrd | they service your ticket when your conveniently offline |
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| 05:44.56 | pakoz | Hey, anyone know of a good mod for alert on whisper |
| 05:45.07 | pakoz | i want likea gunshot to go off when i receive a whisper |
| 05:45.21 | orionshock | you could do that with prat :D |
| 05:45.25 | pakoz | really |
| 05:45.27 | pakoz | i have that already |
| 05:45.31 | orionshock | ya |
| 05:45.34 | pakoz | can you walk me through it by chance |
| 05:45.40 | orionshock | not in game at.. |
| 05:45.42 | orionshock | atm |
| 05:45.44 | pakoz | :( |
| 05:45.48 | pakoz | rough walkthrough? |
| 05:45.59 | orionshock | something to do with custom events or filters |
| 05:47.07 | pakoz | /prat sounds inc |
| 05:47.10 | pakoz | seems to be what i need |
| 05:47.16 | pakoz | but it just spams disabled when i type it |
| 05:47.26 | orionshock | then enable the module |
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| 05:48.48 | pakoz | sry, how? |
| 05:49.39 | pakoz | /prat sounds toggle |
| 05:49.42 | pakoz | spams disabled as well |
| 05:50.37 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r48350 10PlayerMenu/PlayerMenu.lua: PlayerMenu: hide extended menu while in combat |
| 05:51.07 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r48351 10EasyTrack/EasyTrack.lua: EasyTrack: hide menu while in combat |
| 05:52.07 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r48352 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: Cartographer: fix nil error while sharing notes |
| 05:52.27 | sylvanaar | ~ /prat enable sounds |
| 05:52.40 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r48353 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-zhCN.lua: FuBar_BagFu: modified zhCN localization |
| 05:53.10 | orionshock | wtb acp with esc menu option :D |
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| 05:53.27 | pakoz | that worked |
| 05:53.30 | pakoz | thx sylv |
| 05:53.46 | sylvanaar | huh orionshock? |
| 05:53.55 | sylvanaar | pakoz great =) |
| 05:54.23 | orionshock | ACP (Addon Control Pannle) , it'd be nice if it had a button in the game menu. |
| 05:54.25 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r48355 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewdropLib: Added zhCN localization |
| 05:54.43 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 05:55.09 | sylvanaar | Addons |
| 05:55.23 | orionshock | orly? |
| 05:55.58 | orionshock | ah HA, it does... |
| 05:56.20 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r48356 10Postal/Modules/ (OpenAll.lua Select.lua): Postal: remove not worked codes, I am too stupid! |
| 06:03.44 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 06:04.25 | orionshock | urg... got to figure out how i converted TopScoreFu over to use sink lib instead of soar |
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| 06:16.38 | orionshock | well it helps if u add the mix'in to the right deceleration it works :D |
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| 06:29.50 | Gngsk | http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6673/wowscrnshot082107150218ik5.jpg |
| 06:29.56 | Gngsk | tremendous |
| 06:30.56 | orionshock | holy shit man... |
| 06:31.04 | orionshock | who the hell can play like that |
| 06:32.19 | Gngsk | it was a joke |
| 06:32.31 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 06:34.32 | Xinhuan | did you install every Fu addon or something :) |
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| 06:38.26 | Keias | rofl |
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| 06:55.00 | rubik | lol |
| 06:55.07 | rubik | how is that only 23.4MiB? |
| 06:57.20 | Saladin | I think what disturbed me the most, was the fact that he had 71.1 fps |
| 06:57.32 | Saladin | I think what disturbed me the most, was the fact that he had 71.1 fps |
| 06:57.37 | Saladin | ups sry |
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| 06:59.54 | CIA-22 | 03woody * r48358 10/branches/Modality/: Modality: Creating branches folder for Modality |
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| 07:02.03 | Jaxon | Someone put a cyCircled Hello Kitty skin on the svn? |
| 07:02.03 | Jaxon | AH |
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| 07:05.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Jaxon that is correct |
| 07:06.41 | Saladin | hahaha cool |
| 07:06.42 | Jaxon | sag_ich_nicht: I fixed it |
| 07:06.43 | Jaxon | http://jaxon.ca/harokitty.jpeg |
| 07:07.56 | mort|work | dear god.... |
| 07:10.32 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/merchant.png |
| 07:10.43 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r48359 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:10.43 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:10.43 | CIA-22 | -French update from KKram |
| 07:11.07 | art3mis | yeah thrae modded what i asked him to upload |
| 07:11.26 | art3mis | so the wowace version on the svn is "broken" |
| 07:11.49 | art3mis | and i accidently updated and the broken propogated to the wowi when i updated something |
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| 07:13.10 | Jaxon | art3mis: is there more that fits with the cyCircled skin? |
| 07:14.32 | art3mis | whatcha mean? |
| 07:16.10 | omega | art3mis: you have a complete SS of hello kitty anywhere now? |
| 07:17.15 | Jaxon | Are there more addons that change the appearence of the UI to go along with the Hello Kitty cyCircled skin? |
| 07:19.07 | theoddone33 | !c us allera nirav |
| 07:19.07 | ThraeBot | theoddone33: nirav is not the character you are looking for! |
| 07:19.11 | theoddone33 | ugh |
| 07:19.12 | ZealotOnAStick | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html |
| 07:19.13 | Xinhuan | probably not, it takes effort to create skins lol |
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| 07:19.21 | Jaxon | ZealotOnAStick: I love you |
| 07:19.22 | theoddone33 | !c us alleria nirav |
| 07:19.24 | ThraeBot | theoddone33: Nirav, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (17/44/0). 9484 HP; 3828 Armour; 2059 AP; 443.8 Melee DPS; 30.88% melee crit; 275 melee hit; 27.86% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1807 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2f8hr9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3az7w8 ][ Updated: Fri Sep 7 03:31:07 2007 ]] |
| 07:19.29 | asmodai | That hello kitty thing is ... |
| 07:19.51 | asmodai | Words can not describe the sheer pain it invokes on the eyeballs. |
| 07:20.07 | asmodai | It's worse than seenig Hello Kitty dancers live at Warner Bros Movieworld Osaka when I was there... |
| 07:20.48 | theoddone33 | I want 275 hit rating :( |
| 07:21.14 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:21.33 | art3mis | yeah im skinning all the blizz frames as my gothi.ca link above shows |
| 07:21.42 | art3mis | TKing style |
| 07:21.48 | art3mis | so its an easy add/remove |
| 07:22.02 | art3mis | cuz skinner is a horrible piece of lying crap ;P |
| 07:22.30 | Xinhuan | you got some pretty negative replies there |
| 07:23.25 | art3mis | hrm? |
| 07:23.47 | art3mis | on the skinner thread? |
| 07:23.50 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 07:23.54 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:23.56 | art3mis | fuck em |
| 07:24.05 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r48360 10GridLayoutForHealers/GridLayoutForHealers.lua: |
| 07:24.05 | CIA-22 | GridLayoutForHealers : |
| 07:24.05 | CIA-22 | - koKR typo fix |
| 07:24.11 | art3mis | making it a solid or gradient background is NOT skinning |
| 07:25.24 | art3mis | if they wanna pretend and believe it is thats entirely up to them but my history with winamp etc has taught me that skinning is graphically changing the background to something that retains the same "look" but uses different textures |
| 07:25.42 | art3mis | a plain black box background is not a skin ;P |
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| 07:25.47 | evl | fucking hell Steve Jobs is a PR genius |
| 07:25.50 | evl | "Hey, you bought iPhone for 599$ 2 months ago, here's 100$ refund since we're lowering the price" |
| 07:25.57 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/merchant.png <--- THAT is a skin ;P |
| 07:26.18 | art3mis | hehe it would have been more awesome if he had done it in an itunes card ;P |
| 07:26.40 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis |
| 07:26.49 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9239.jpg the aspect ratio in the panel is still broken |
| 07:27.01 | art3mis | i know |
| 07:27.08 | art3mis | i havent done anything wi9th that graphic yet |
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| 07:27.26 | Sole | good evening |
| 07:27.31 | asmodai | evl: It is indeed. |
| 07:27.34 | Saiek | hallo |
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| 07:32.35 | Neebler | evl: request to be able to rotate panels in eePanels |
| 07:32.52 | evl | I'm not the author |
| 07:32.58 | Neebler | oh you sly dog |
| 07:33.05 | evl | infact I hate eePanels :P |
| 07:33.13 | evl | it's a bad excuse for CreateTexture :P |
| 07:33.13 | Neebler | you're an evil person |
| 07:34.35 | evl | Neebler: http://code.google.com/p/evladdons/wiki/EvlArt |
| 07:34.39 | evl | if you want to come over from the dark side :P |
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| 07:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis you should totally necro this thread with a link to the interface: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50988686&sid=1 |
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| 07:37.42 | ckknight | hey all |
| 07:38.04 | evl | diaf. |
| 07:39.14 | Dynom | hey ckknight |
| 07:41.33 | sag_ich_nicht | hello ckknight. |
| 07:41.42 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
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| 07:48.26 | ramoz | im bored |
| 07:48.34 | ramoz | im also wondering what happend to discordmods |
| 07:52.55 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: heh done ;P |
| 07:55.12 | Xinhuan | discordmods is discontinued by the author |
| 07:55.21 | Xinhuan | there was a thread on it 2 weeks ago on the UI forums |
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| 07:58.11 | Recluse | i actually cried that day when i read loz's post |
| 07:58.29 | abbat_w | lozareth post? |
| 07:59.06 | Recluse | yeah. discord suite discontinued ruined my day XD |
| 07:59.34 | ramoz | wow iu forums? |
| 07:59.34 | abbat_w | Loz don't make new version sience 2.0 out |
| 07:59.39 | abbat_w | About one year |
| 08:00.11 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 08:00.27 | Recluse | i know, but he was "working on the new one", but it never happened |
| 08:01.13 | Recluse | i guess it's okay, he wasn't going to do a new version of the discord action bars, which is the part i was most in love with |
| 08:03.17 | ckknight | well, who would you cry for? |
| 08:03.18 | orionshock | ok.. riddle me this.. auctioneer adv, is that suposed to work with or replace the regular auctioneer? |
| 08:03.21 | ckknight | and who wouldn't you? |
| 08:03.23 | ckknight | replace |
| 08:03.32 | orionshock | .. how do u scan? |
| 08:03.58 | Recluse | well, you can /aadv scan at the ah window, but there's no need. it's happening as you browse |
| 08:05.05 | pb_ee1 | Morning |
| 08:06.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:41] <@ckknight> how's everyone doing? <--bored at work, still have the wish to bang every ace2 devs head against the heads of each other, still have a wish to somehow hurt Antiarc altho it's not his fault per se that omen is bugging for me, still angry(as always) |
| 08:06.40 | ckknight | why do you want to bang my head? |
| 08:06.51 | orionshock | geez sag_ich_nicht what irc client are u using... |
| 08:06.53 | abbat_w | ahaha ;) |
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| 08:07.47 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock: mIRC, but you could have just found out that using /ctcp sag_ich_nicht VERSION |
| 08:07.49 | sag_ich_nicht | why are you asking? |
| 08:07.55 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: why the banging? |
| 08:08.11 | orionshock | b/c ur seeing things im not :P |
| 08:08.53 | Recluse | hrm, well there are many addons that i 'like' but could still play as well without, discord action bars breaking changed how i play the game XD |
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| 08:09.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight because if i smash all of your heads against each others, there might be a slight chance that some of the content swaps over and this whole Ace3/Rock gets done with |
| 08:09.58 | ckknight | you said ace2 |
| 08:10.01 | ckknight | not ace3 |
| 08:10.23 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. you all worked on ace2. not all of you worked on Ace3 or for that matter Rock |
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| 08:10.41 | Adirelle|Work | hi there |
| 08:10.42 | Gregory- | may be start third addon framework so Rock/Ace3 unite against it ? :) |
| 08:10.42 | ckknight | not true, some Ace3 devs are not Ace2 devs |
| 08:10.48 | pb_ee1 | ~seen Moonsorrow |
| 08:10.49 | purl | moonsorrow <n=moonsorr@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-070.hsi.kabelbw.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 33d 17h 22m 31s ago, saying: 'ah ok'. |
| 08:10.52 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 08:11.00 | pb_ee1 | 33 days... |
| 08:11.00 | ckknight | Gregory-: it's called Dongle |
| 08:11.05 | sag_ich_nicht | rong |
| 08:11.08 | sag_ich_nicht | it's called cosmos |
| 08:11.46 | ckknight | Gregory-: and it actually worked the other way with the ace people and the dongle people working together |
| 08:12.20 | pb_ee1 | against what? |
| 08:12.31 | ckknight | not really against anything |
| 08:12.36 | pb_ee1 | for what then? |
| 08:12.46 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 08:12.58 | pb_ee1 | Rock? Ace3? Something else? |
| 08:13.03 | ramoz | so |
| 08:13.07 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 08:13.12 | pb_ee1 | Ape? :p |
| 08:13.23 | ckknight | part of me sees it like the old man and his axe |
| 08:13.38 | ramoz | in the future, when i have to run both Ace3 and Rock - how much would my system suffer (mem/CPU usage)? |
| 08:13.46 | ckknight | an old man, during his last days, looks at his trusty axe |
| 08:13.54 | ckknight | and says to himself and the trees around him: |
| 08:14.06 | ckknight | "This is the best axe I've ever owned, I've had it for 50 years." |
| 08:14.25 | ckknight | "I've replaced the handle 7 times and the blade 13 times." |
| 08:14.50 | abbat_w | ramoz, sure |
| 08:14.54 | ckknight | is it the same axe he had 50 years ago? |
| 08:15.04 | pb_ee1 | Yes and no :p |
| 08:15.07 | abbat_w | depends on how mods using different frameworks |
| 08:15.07 | krka_ | is it the same man as 50 years ago? |
| 08:15.19 | ckknight | krka_: well, yes |
| 08:15.22 | nevcairiel | for him it is, and thats what counts |
| 08:15.24 | Recluse | it still has the soul/spirit of the original axe |
| 08:15.35 | ckknight | does it, Recluse? |
| 08:15.42 | ckknight | or is the spirit left in one of the broken blades? |
| 08:15.47 | ramoz | abbat_w: lets say BigWigs/oRA2 and PitBll :O |
| 08:15.50 | Recluse | heh |
| 08:15.58 | krka_ | ckknight: why? all cells in the body have been replaced more or less |
| 08:16.02 | pb_ee1 | Ok nice story, but what do you actually mean ckknight? |
| 08:16.02 | sag_ich_nicht | in during pseudo philosophic debate about a problem that could be stopped if people would just stop being pigheaded. |
| 08:16.10 | [Ammo] | ramoz: your system would not suffer because BigWigs and oRA2 are very very efficient |
| 08:16.21 | [Ammo] | and that has absolutely nothing to do with the framework |
| 08:16.38 | abbat_w | Ammo, but this not true by 100% :) |
| 08:16.47 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: you are clueless |
| 08:16.47 | Adirelle|Work | the question is having BOTH of them running |
| 08:16.55 | abbat_w | 2 framework add some code to memory |
| 08:17.06 | abbat_w | Why you say 'not suffer'? |
| 08:17.15 | [Ammo] | because it won't |
| 08:17.24 | abbat_w | ok. |
| 08:17.24 | krka_ | frameworks dont matter, the addon code quality matters |
| 08:17.26 | [Ammo] | does your system suffer because you use PerfectRaid using the dongle framework? |
| 08:17.28 | Nargiddley` | beccause 'some code' more in memory is far from doing anything you'd ever notice |
| 08:17.28 | krka_ | frameworks cant help crappy coders |
| 08:17.29 | orionshock | ive got ace2 and Rock and Dongle running right as we speak |
| 08:17.31 | Adirelle|Work | systems don't have feeling :p |
| 08:17.32 | [Ammo] | the answer is: no |
| 08:17.33 | abbat_w | krka, sure? |
| 08:17.43 | abbat_w | krka, how about 2 version of Babble*? :) |
| 08:17.47 | abbat_w | 0 memory usage? :) |
| 08:17.58 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: static memory usage does not matter |
| 08:18.01 | [Ammo] | now go search for a clue |
| 08:18.20 | abbat_w | wait guys |
| 08:18.25 | ckknight | don't be mean |
| 08:18.27 | abbat_w | and recheck question again |
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| 08:18.38 | abbat_w | [12:19] <ramoz> in the future, when i have to run both Ace3 and Rock - how much would my system suffer (mem/CPU usage)? |
| 08:19.03 | abbat_w | Not you say 'yes, suffer. but static memory ...." |
| 08:19.15 | [Ammo] | it would not suffer much, since it's all the _addons_ that cause suffering |
| 08:19.17 | Nargiddley | not enouch of either to do anything at all to FPS which is what actually matters |
| 08:19.35 | [Ammo] | framework = irrelevant, unless it's coded absolutely SHIT |
| 08:19.44 | abbat_w | disagree |
| 08:19.46 | [Ammo] | which is not the case in any of the current frameworks |
| 08:19.47 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up everyone, unless you run 400 addons like i do, it's going to be completely irrelevant |
| 08:19.49 | orionshock | tbh it's only when i load up any sort of 3pa UF addon does my FPS suck |
| 08:19.58 | orionshock | be it Pitbull or x-Perl |
| 08:19.58 | krka_ | unfortanately, too many frameworks are shit |
| 08:20.08 | sag_ich_nicht | also the framework is not irrelevant, just a minimal factor that can easily be ommited [Ammo] |
| 08:20.10 | Shadowed | memory and CPU was irrelevant stats 99% of the time even if you arne't talking about static memory |
| 08:20.23 | Shadowed | when and how often something is done matters far more in figuring out what other stats matter, then the stats alone |
| 08:20.25 | [Ammo] | badly oded addons are shit |
| 08:20.30 | [Ammo] | +c |
| 08:20.38 | Nargiddley | with 400 addons its going to be less impact than 3, its the addons that matter not the framework |
| 08:21.05 | Shadowed | sag_ich_nicht yes it is irrelevant, the only time it isn't is if the framework is poorly coded and inefficent |
| 08:21.15 | Shadowed | which goes back to what ammo said about badly coded addons are shit |
| 08:21.22 | abbat_w | Hmmm... |
| 08:21.23 | abbat_w | Ok |
| 08:21.31 | abbat_w | But if i run only one aced addon |
| 08:21.49 | abbat_w | How much memory this addon takes (include memory for alla fwk libs) ? |
| 08:21.53 | krka_ | or adds bloat and makes complex solutions for problems that aren't even problems, and tries to optimize things that aren't a problem, and even have optimizations that aren't optimizations |
| 08:21.56 | Nargiddley | how well the addon is coded will still make more difference than any frameworks |
| 08:22.02 | abbat_w | For example, try to run only one ace addon |
| 08:22.07 | [Ammo] | still doesn't matter abbat, static mem is no problem |
| 08:22.09 | abbat_w | Doesn't matter which one |
| 08:22.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed if you run 2 frameworks side by side instead of just 1 framework running 2 will eat more performance, that's a simple fact because 1+1=2 |
| 08:22.18 | abbat_w | And look at memory usage by Ace2 libs |
| 08:22.19 | Shadowed | sag_ich_nicht I'm too damn tired to argue |
| 08:22.21 | Shadowed | i'm just going to say this |
| 08:22.24 | nevcairiel | 1+1 = 11 |
| 08:22.25 | Shadowed | you're an idiot, stop talking |
| 08:22.26 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:22.26 | [Ammo] | run only BigWigs and yes it'll show you a lot of memory due to babblezone and other libs |
| 08:22.31 | sag_ich_nicht | but because the difference in this case is so minimalistic, it's not going to be any problem :P |
| 08:22.40 | [Ammo] | but it will still be pretty fucking efficient |
| 08:22.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|zZz insulting me is not a solution |
| 08:22.44 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 08:22.45 | abbat_w | sag_ich_nicht, i think not 1+1 in this case |
| 08:22.47 | sag_ich_nicht | not Shirik|zZz |
| 08:22.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed i mean |
| 08:22.52 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 08:22.52 | Shadowed | yea Shirik|zZz, ITS NOT THE SOLUTION |
| 08:23.00 | sag_ich_nicht | bad tab key |
| 08:23.02 | orionshock | ... hehe local libs... |
| 08:23.08 | sag_ich_nicht | insulting me is not a solution anyway Shadowed |
| 08:23.18 | sag_ich_nicht | afk, have to install staroffice on a few 100 computers, brb |
| 08:23.19 | Shadowed | it is when i don't feel like arguing |
| 08:23.30 | krka_ | right... there are frameworks dont add any computation overhead whatsoever |
| 08:23.33 | [Ammo] | sag_ich_nicht: running 2 separeate onupdate frames can be more efficient than using 1 from a framework (if coded properly) |
| 08:23.35 | ramoz | i started a war =( |
| 08:23.36 | krka_ | so what do you mean 1+1=2 |
| 08:23.37 | [Ammo] | sag_ich_nicht: so that boat doesn't fly |
| 08:23.39 | abbat_w | Ammo, ok. Now let's try BigWigs only and Parrot only. Both uses different frameworks (for example). And as result we can see what second fwk also takes some memory |
| 08:23.40 | krka_ | that's just retarded |
| 08:23.53 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: still doesn't matter |
| 08:23.53 | Grum | krka_: lies you will get overhead - thats what a framework is for! |
| 08:23.54 | krka_ | workload will double just by adding another framework? |
| 08:24.10 | abbat_w | Why double? |
| 08:24.12 | [Ammo] | krka_: you're talking to the clueless |
| 08:24.21 | Grum | the trick is to get the framework to give the least overhead while still being a framework ;D |
| 08:24.37 | abbat_w | We get some overhead sure but not double ;) |
| 08:24.37 | Shadowed | the trick is to use the framework that provides what you need, and not bloat it needlessly with stupid stuff 90% of the people don't care about |
| 08:24.39 | krka_ | i mean that it's possible to make framework that only computes stuff when instructed by the addon |
| 08:24.41 | orionshock | tbh if ur not gona run 10+ ace'ed addons at once, your almost better off just using standalone ones |
| 08:24.42 | Shadowed | then it doesn't matter if 1 or 100 addons use it. |
| 08:24.49 | krka_ | thus, adding a new framework wont simply add more cost |
| 08:24.58 | Grum | i'm not even sure what a wowace-framework should encompass tbh |
| 08:25.03 | Adirelle|Work | what about non-core libraries and addons ? |
| 08:25.14 | Grum | but i think the basic of 'registering modules/libraries' and nothing more should be plenty |
| 08:25.19 | abbat_w | krka, not more but always add |
| 08:25.20 | Nargiddley | you're better off running the 10 addons that are coded better than the ones that do the same job, framework is irrelevant |
| 08:25.27 | abbat_w | And possible it's need to testing ;) |
| 08:25.36 | Grum | after that (mixin) libraries/classes should be written to make the 'regular things' you want in wow done 'easily' |
| 08:25.39 | abbat_w | Now you can test with cosmos/ace2 for example |
| 08:26.13 | Grum | and you are better of with that same software written on 1 framework with shared libraries/mixins |
| 08:26.20 | orionshock | i don't think cosmos can be compared to ace2 |
| 08:26.26 | abbat_w | doesn't matter |
| 08:26.30 | abbat_w | just 2 frameworks |
| 08:26.46 | Grum | oh .. yay! i saw Vashj yesterday for the first time =D |
| 08:27.15 | krka_ | i'll just stop arguing with r-tards now |
| 08:27.19 | Adirelle|Work | will be non-core librarires ported on the two frameworks ? by who ? who will maintain both version ? |
| 08:27.57 | [Ammo] | Adirelle|Work: that's where LibStub and framework agnostic libs come in |
| 08:27.58 | ckknight | Adirelle|Work: it's unlikely to be done by the original author, and it's a logistical nightmare |
| 08:28.26 | ckknight | and making things framework agnostic is very painful when dealing with features that you need that a framework provides or when dealing with mixin systems |
| 08:28.30 | Gregory- | isn't all frameworks do some event preprocessing ? so it will be always some overhead |
| 08:30.00 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48361 10Ace3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Ace3 - change the library init block in anticipation of ACE-14 |
| 08:30.24 | Adirelle|Work | so what ? each framework will have its own sets of libraries ? what will happen when I'll need functionnalities provided by libraries dispatched in both framework ? |
| 08:30.27 | orionshock | ... are ya'll btching about a >3% overhead in proccessing in the wow UI? |
| 08:30.36 | Grum | well a framework ideally just provides methods to 'let stuff know about eachother' :) |
| 08:30.42 | ckknight | e.g. the reason I ported some libraries to Rock instead of framework agnostic is for 4 different things: (1) unit tests - could be done by a third party addon, theoretically (2) design-by-contract - like (1), could be done by a 3rd-party addon (3) table recycling - could be done with an embedded library (like LibStub), but if embedded, it's a logistical nightmare to upgrade things after the fact, either that or have every library dep |
| 08:30.50 | evl | Grum: get ready for wipefest :) |
| 08:31.03 | Grum | evl: we pushed her to 69% .. was fun :P |
| 08:31.12 | Grum | aka: phase2 and 1 generator down |
| 08:31.26 | Grum | but we did *nothing* with tactics or groupsetups orso ;D |
| 08:31.31 | Grum | was funny :D |
| 08:31.35 | evl | Grum: 2-3 rogues on elites, hunters + some mages on elementals, healers on the stairs rim and shadowpriest + warlock kiting striders |
| 08:31.44 | [Ammo] | ckknight: we solved the mixn and upgrading pretty good in Ace3 |
| 08:31.45 | evl | druid tanks on elites |
| 08:31.46 | ckknight | if it weren't for those 4 things, I'd likely port my libraries to library-agnostic |
| 08:31.56 | Grum | evl: yeah that was the plan |
| 08:32.03 | ckknight | [Ammo]: I was told by Kaelten otherwise |
| 08:32.03 | krka_ | table recycling in a framework is still a bad idea, imo |
| 08:32.06 | [Ammo] | ckknight: libraries are responsible for upgrade |
| 08:32.35 | ckknight | [Ammo]: it's not just upgrading, it's about the methods that mixins receives based on an object's state |
| 08:32.36 | [Ammo] | ckknight: all libs have a :Embed( object ) function that does the embedding and they register the objects they;re embedded in |
| 08:32.43 | ckknight | such as OnEmbedEnable and such |
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| 08:33.00 | [Ammo] | ckknight: we use the old methods |
| 08:33.06 | ckknight | I'm not talking about upgrading at all |
| 08:33.09 | [Ammo] | and if that can be called 'a standard' problem solved |
| 08:33.34 | Grum | btw krka_ , i've done some thinking about the 'divide in a grid and precalculate some data' but i dont see how it will be 'much' faster :/ |
| 08:33.56 | Grum | could you explain how that would be faster? |
| 08:34.11 | Grum | because i couldn't really common cases where it would be really useful |
| 08:34.19 | ckknight | [Ammo]: except that issues such as general object -> mixin or mixin -> object mapping haven't been addressed |
| 08:34.41 | [Ammo] | ckknight: which aren't needed in 99% of the cases |
| 08:34.49 | [Ammo] | object -> mixin = framework handled |
| 08:34.52 | krka_ | Grum: you'd have much fewer lines to consider drawing |
| 08:34.55 | [Ammo] | mixn -> object = on a per library basis |
| 08:35.01 | ckknight | it's 100% needed for stuff like :OnEmbedEnable and other embed-state methods |
| 08:35.15 | ckknight | where you need object -> mixin |
| 08:35.16 | [Ammo] | ckknight: which can be done in the framework |
| 08:35.18 | Grum | well i tihnk you suggessted splitting up the lines - so i actually have multiple lineparts that should be drawn |
| 08:35.23 | Grum | now that is not much of a problem imho |
| 08:35.39 | Grum | but i'm worried about iterating over the complete grid (or a section of it) to see if i have any intersections |
| 08:35.44 | [Ammo] | in fact AceAddon-3.0 already does it just fine |
| 08:35.47 | ckknight | [Ammo]: which causes severe issues for cross-framework mixins, since one framework's handling of it is very different from another's, theoretically |
| 08:36.02 | Grum | and i still have to do intersection math on the grid-sections that do have lines and intersect |
| 08:36.07 | [Ammo] | ckknight: if we can agree on :Embed :OnEmbedInitialize :OnEmbedEnable :OnEmbedDisable we're done |
| 08:36.13 | krka_ | i am not sure why you need mixins between addons |
| 08:36.16 | ckknight | no we're not |
| 08:36.25 | ckknight | and I'm done, I'm tired of drama |
| 08:36.28 | ckknight | going to bed |
| 08:36.32 | [Ammo] | I am not going for drama :( |
| 08:36.34 | pb_ee1 | nn ckknight. |
| 08:36.39 | [Ammo] | I'm trying to have a good discussion here |
| 08:36.42 | [Ammo] | sigh |
| 08:36.48 | ckknight | I already had it with Kaelten |
| 08:36.52 | Grum | [Ammo]: tomorrow another day |
| 08:37.00 | Shadowed | it already is tomorrow |
| 08:37.00 | ckknight | and I hate relaying messages to every single person |
| 08:37.01 | Grum | ckknight: Ace3 is not just Kaelten |
| 08:37.08 | Grum | use the wiki! |
| 08:37.09 | Shadowed | it's 1:30 AM in the damn morning |
| 08:37.10 | ckknight | he's the leader, Grum |
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| 08:37.21 | [Ammo] | there is no leader |
| 08:37.28 | ckknight | that's not what Kaelten told me |
| 08:37.29 | Grum | if he is the leader he should push more code |
| 08:37.38 | Shadowed | kael rules with a pointy stick and a burger king paper king hat |
| 08:37.45 | Grum | rawr! |
| 08:37.48 | nevcairiel | lol Shadowed |
| 08:37.56 | ckknight | ugh, tired |
| 08:37.57 | ckknight | cya all |
| 08:38.00 | Grum | nn |
| 08:38.01 | [Ammo] | later ckknight |
| 08:38.06 | orionshock | night ckknight |
| 08:38.10 | [Ammo] | if yu want to talk about the lib thing later, you know my nick |
| 08:38.19 | abbat_w | =) |
| 08:38.25 | abbat_w | hahha ;) |
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| 08:38.26 | abbat_w | guys ;) |
| 08:39.25 | evl | this is great drama |
| 08:39.34 | evl | Who do I contact for the film rights?! |
| 08:39.41 | Grum | me |
| 08:39.41 | abbat_w | =) |
| 08:39.47 | krka_ | seriously... why mixins between addons? |
| 08:40.03 | Grum | mixins are just libraries |
| 08:40.05 | Grum | kinda |
| 08:40.34 | pb_ee1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixin |
| 08:42.01 | orionshock | hehe.... i love being 3party to all this ""Drama"" |
| 08:44.03 | abbat_w | btw ;) |
| 08:44.30 | abbat_w | after some time we can test all about 2 frameworks at one time ;) |
| 08:44.58 | pb_ee1 | [[Mixin]] |
| 08:45.02 | pb_ee1 | Hum |
| 08:45.03 | Recluse | so a mixin is kinda like an 'optional library', safe to say? |
| 08:45.04 | orionshock | abbat_w: im running all 3 right now, and see no performance loss |
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| 08:45.15 | abbat_w | i run only one |
| 08:45.17 | abbat_w | and see |
| 08:45.34 | pb_ee1 | Not exactly Recluse, it's more a "complement" to a class in object-oriented programming |
| 08:46.03 | abbat_w | abstract class like in c++? |
| 08:46.05 | Adirelle|Work | it's like a bunch of functionnaliy you throw in into your class |
| 08:46.15 | abbat_w | or interface for class? |
| 08:46.23 | Adirelle|Work | think more of an interface that also provides implementation |
| 08:46.25 | abbat_w | (like in java) |
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| 08:46.32 | pb_ee1 | abbat_w: interface |
| 08:47.05 | abbat_w | as i remember, java interfaces declare api. class can extend interface and describe functionality |
| 08:47.11 | Grum | its basicly: 'I can also do this' .. and it imports methods/functions |
| 08:47.17 | abbat_w | so, interface is just like an API to class |
| 08:47.23 | sylvanaar | lua lacks formality |
| 08:47.29 | sylvanaar | and types |
| 08:47.36 | Grum | that is what makes it so great |
| 08:47.41 | sylvanaar | sure |
| 08:47.54 | Grum | there is just 1 downside - you need some dedications to get it right |
| 08:48.15 | Recluse | XD almost like creating a fork of some addon/lib at runtime |
| 08:48.57 | sylvanaar | it just merges 2 tables |
| 08:49.09 | sylvanaar | thats about it |
| 08:49.28 | Adirelle|Work | sylvanaar: in lua |
| 08:49.35 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 08:50.01 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 08:50.15 | abbat_w | it's a deep level of abstraction 'just merges 2 tables' :) |
| 08:50.23 | Adirelle|Work | :) |
| 08:51.03 | Adirelle|Work | mixins are something between interfaces and abstract classes |
| 08:51.37 | Adirelle|Work | in langages where there is no multiple inheritance |
| 08:51.40 | sylvanaar | they are virtual base classes |
| 08:51.59 | Adirelle|Work | take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixin exemple and commentary |
| 08:52.01 | sylvanaar | the way the are used in lua |
| 08:53.06 | [Ammo] | they're handy and it takes 8 lines of code to get them to work |
| 08:53.18 | [Ammo] | approximately |
| 08:54.02 | sylvanaar | thats your new thing [Ammo] "it takes xxx lines of code" |
| 08:54.02 | Recluse | if you had a string variable containing a namespace, is there a way to 'convert' the varible to an actual namespace to access it's functions and whatnot? |
| 08:54.40 | Recluse | MyAddon:func() ---> somevar = "MyAddon" somevar:func() |
| 08:54.54 | sylvanaar | no |
| 08:54.59 | Nargiddley | _G[somevar]:func() ? |
| 08:55.00 | Adirelle|Work | Recluse : MyAddon ain't a "namespace", it's a table |
| 08:55.12 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: usually less lines implies a simple solution, unless those lines are perlish linenoise |
| 08:55.18 | abbat_w | via _G> |
| 08:55.19 | abbat_w | ? |
| 08:55.31 | Recluse | _G[somevar] will work? htm |
| 08:55.33 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: and this is one of those examples |
| 08:55.49 | Nargiddley | well if MyAddon is a global variable it will |
| 08:55.49 | abbat_w | Recluse, yes. Try to see what _G hold |
| 08:56.12 | Adirelle|Work | Recluse, coming from perl ? |
| 08:56.21 | abbat_w | Looks like ;) |
| 08:56.29 | abbat_w | %GLOBAL |
| 08:56.30 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 08:56.34 | [Ammo] | or php: $$var |
| 08:56.35 | Recluse | me? i'm a php'r |
| 08:56.41 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] its not a significant detail without context |
| 08:57.09 | Recluse | never did get around to learning perl >.> |
| 08:57.18 | orionshock | sylvanaar: what is Debug-1.0? |
| 08:57.34 | Adirelle|Work | k, Perl has funny (and dirty) things about namespace and using strings to access them like you wrote |
| 08:57.40 | sylvanaar | a debugging aid |
| 08:57.54 | orionshock | it's a bitchy memory hog |
| 08:57.59 | Shadowed | dynamically requesting a var from the results of $var was always fun in PHP |
| 08:58.14 | sylvanaar | so, why are you running it |
| 08:58.36 | Recluse | Adirelle: well, my example was more of a pseudocode kinda example XD i know it didn't work like that, but couldn't think of a better way to generically show what i meant spur of the moment |
| 08:58.40 | [Ammo] | because there are many many users just installing everything 'to test' :p |
| 08:58.50 | orionshock | don't know, prat whine'd and bitched one day about not having it... and haven't deleted it yet ... |
| 08:59.08 | Grum | Shadowed: why? it's easy |
| 08:59.09 | sylvanaar | i has a 60k line textbuffer in it |
| 08:59.23 | Shadowed | Where did I say it was hard? |
| 08:59.24 | sylvanaar | for capturing logs |
| 08:59.47 | Grum | just dont use php grin |
| 08:59.54 | Grum | evil things will happen to your babies! |
| 09:00.01 | Recluse | rofl |
| 09:00.42 | abbat_w | Pff... |
| 09:00.59 | abbat_w | I found BigWigs just installing it 'to test' ;) |
| 09:01.32 | [Ammo] | I remember that day |
| 09:01.37 | [Ammo] | demanding I translate it to french |
| 09:01.38 | [Ammo] | silly man |
| 09:01.42 | sylvanaar | there is a forum post about it somewhere |
| 09:01.45 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:02.32 | Grum | lol .. translating to french also kills babies |
| 09:02.39 | abbat_w | lol |
| 09:04.14 | Recluse | i use ACP in-game, but i sure wish blizzard would 'upgrade' their addon menu. completely useless once you get more than a few addons installed |
| 09:04.51 | abbat_w | Don't sure |
| 09:05.04 | abbat_w | 1% of wow users need to switch on/off addons on fly |
| 09:05.15 | abbat_w | 'on fly' - i mean in game ;) |
| 09:05.41 | Corgan | hrmm |
| 09:05.49 | phyber | I think their addon menu should be split into three areas. the list of addons down the left, and on the right, the top part is information about the addon, the bottom part is the list of characters who have it enabled/disabled, with a checkbox next to each to toggle, etc. |
| 09:05.59 | phyber | I hate choosing characters from that crappy dropdown box thing. |
| 09:06.10 | Recluse | XD |
| 09:06.37 | dreamss | addons should list deps first thing |
| 09:06.42 | Corgan | Are there any good addons that I should have... |
| 09:06.48 | dreamss | i dont care which toons have it enabled |
| 09:06.52 | Corgan | I feel like messing around with some |
| 09:07.05 | abbat_w | You are thinking from dev side guys |
| 09:07.15 | orionshock | bartender, cartographer, X-perl |
| 09:07.23 | abbat_w | Typical user won't doing something with an addons |
| 09:07.26 | evl | http://www.numusic.no/ImageGallery/charles%20krafft%20gun.jpg |
| 09:07.27 | orionshock | 3 addons i suggest+ to everyone |
| 09:07.38 | abbat_w | x-perl? |
| 09:07.39 | abbat_w | nope |
| 09:07.41 | Corgan | pitbull > xperl |
| 09:07.43 | dreamss | drdamage is one of my fags |
| 09:07.45 | abbat_w | Pitbull please |
| 09:07.54 | CrazyBenny | everything > xperl |
| 09:07.57 | orionshock | pitbull = bitch to configure |
| 09:07.58 | abbat_w | And remove bt3 from list ;) |
| 09:08.09 | abbat_w | Because lazy nevcairiel won't add smallest option ;( |
| 09:08.13 | Recluse | no bartender? o.O |
| 09:08.14 | sag_ich_nicht | xperl > pitbull |
| 09:08.16 | sag_ich_nicht | go away. |
| 09:08.48 | abbat_w | Recluse, as discord user i think you play with 'AnyUP' state for buttons (DAB default) |
| 09:08.50 | nevcairiel | agUF > xperl > pitbull |
| 09:08.55 | orionshock | ease of use & configuration |
| 09:08.56 | Shadowed | default > all |
| 09:09.02 | Shadowed | AND ITS SUPR MEMRY EFFIENTS |
| 09:09.13 | abbat_w | But BT3 uses AnyDown and this is completly wrong i think ;) |
| 09:09.15 | Corgan | ok lemme rephrase my question, what are some good beta addons that i can mess around with |
| 09:09.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i still prefer xperl |
| 09:09.31 | Corgan | newer addons |
| 09:09.43 | orionshock | Corgan: ... don't thow fire into the barn.... |
| 09:09.47 | nevcairiel | AnyDown is default UI behavious, l2play |
| 09:09.48 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:09.53 | Recluse | abbat_w: but what else is there that's worth using? |
| 09:10.00 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, i know, it's a default |
| 09:10.02 | orionshock | and that question here is doing something to that effect |
| 09:10.10 | Corgan | lol |
| 09:10.26 | sag_ich_nicht | wtf is AnyDown/AnyUp? D: |
| 09:10.36 | abbat_w | let me explain |
| 09:10.41 | Corgan | I just have alot of typical addons, I need some good...not normal ones |
| 09:10.43 | abbat_w | you press button on you ui |
| 09:10.52 | abbat_w | By default, client do nothing. |
| 09:11.06 | abbat_w | You release button, wow client process action |
| 09:11.10 | abbat_w | this is by default |
| 09:11.17 | abbat_w | Discord change this way |
| 09:11.28 | sag_ich_nicht | oic so it's on down and not on up |
| 09:11.31 | abbat_w | And wow client process action by pressing button not by release |
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| 09:11.48 | abbat_w | Now imagine you are a mage ;) |
| 09:11.49 | nevcairiel | its just wrong, it fires spells when you drag stuff around |
| 09:11.56 | nevcairiel | just l2releasekeyfaster |
| 09:12.01 | Corgan | ^ |
| 09:12.03 | abbat_w | You are mounted, running by ab for example ;) |
| 09:12.04 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2model m |
| 09:12.22 | Corgan | I love holding down buttons, waiting for the right time to release it |
| 09:12.23 | Corgan | :| |
| 09:12.24 | abbat_w | And you see another mage, he target you and bah! pom+piro |
| 09:12.33 | abbat_w | You press ice block and damn! Nothing! |
| 09:12.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Corgan same |
| 09:12.52 | abbat_w | You are still mounted. You release button in panic and press again |
| 09:13.07 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 09:13.08 | abbat_w | So, you cast block and immediatly remove it ;) |
| 09:13.08 | nevcairiel | its a problem with your finger handling |
| 09:13.09 | sag_ich_nicht | abbat_w |
| 09:13.15 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, nope |
| 09:13.19 | nevcairiel | of course it is |
| 09:13.23 | sag_ich_nicht | you know that there is an option for auto dismount on spellcast since 2.1? |
| 09:13.25 | nevcairiel | just teach them to press and release |
| 09:13.27 | Grum | casting iceblock twice will remove it? |
| 09:13.28 | Recluse | lol |
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| 09:13.37 | abbat_w | Grum sure ;) |
| 09:13.45 | abbat_w | ice block it's a buff |
| 09:13.46 | Grum | you macroing again? :P |
| 09:13.48 | Recluse | yes, like casting rogue stealth twice in row removes it |
| 09:13.55 | abbat_w | nope |
| 09:13.55 | sag_ich_nicht | you are mounted |
| 09:13.58 | sag_ich_nicht | press ice block |
| 09:14.06 | sag_ich_nicht | you auto dismount and gain ice block |
| 09:14.07 | Grum | and you iceblock! |
| 09:14.13 | abbat_w | sag, nope ;) |
| 09:14.22 | sag_ich_nicht | abbat_w yes. lern2auto dismount option from patch 2.1 |
| 09:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | nub |
| 09:14.25 | Corgan | ^ |
| 09:14.25 | abbat_w | you dismount after release button |
| 09:14.30 | Corgan | er |
| 09:14.31 | abbat_w | Not on press |
| 09:14.32 | Corgan | release button faster |
| 09:14.37 | abbat_w | It's take some time |
| 09:14.39 | nevcairiel | its your issue with your playing style |
| 09:14.40 | Corgan | fat fingers |
| 09:14.40 | sag_ich_nicht | YEAH SO FUCKING RELEASE THE BUTTON ALREADY INSTANTLY |
| 09:14.41 | abbat_w | Gorgan, wrong ;) |
| 09:14.46 | Corgan | fat fingers |
| 09:14.48 | Recluse | lol@fat fingers |
| 09:14.49 | sag_ich_nicht | abbat_w you have fat fingers |
| 09:14.52 | Corgan | lol |
| 09:14.54 | abbat_w | nope, sag ;) |
| 09:14.57 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, you do |
| 09:14.58 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2play |
| 09:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | nub |
| 09:15.00 | abbat_w | =) |
| 09:15.02 | Corgan | fat fingers |
| 09:15.04 | orionshock | sag did u forget ur prozac this morning? |
| 09:15.12 | abbat_w | prozac? |
| 09:15.15 | abbat_w | what is it? |
| 09:15.23 | orionshock | lol |
| 09:15.27 | Recluse | it takes a few miliseconds extra to release the button is all, which can be deadly |
| 09:15.30 | Corgan | I wish I could sort the wowaceupdater list by last changed |
| 09:15.35 | abbat_w | Yes |
| 09:15.41 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock no, i'm just generally flaming and angry at people that need to lern2play and blame addons or the interface for something that is clearly their fault |
| 09:15.41 | abbat_w | Milisecods only |
| 09:15.43 | orionshock | l2google abbat_w |
| 09:16.02 | abbat_w | But you can miss cs for example because miliseconds ;) |
| 09:16.26 | abbat_w | sag, it's ok if addon have option to switch between anyup/anydown |
| 09:16.35 | Grum | lets just say that if it is an option it should be an option to be selected by the user |
| 09:16.38 | abbat_w | Nurfed ui for example have anydown by default, like dab |
| 09:16.39 | Grum | grin |
| 09:16.45 | abbat_w | x-perl and bt3 - anyup |
| 09:16.48 | nevcairiel | abbat_w: use nurfed then |
| 09:16.56 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, i use bt3 |
| 09:17.06 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, and please, be more user oriented ;) |
| 09:17.11 | orionshock | i l2p w/ mods i like |
| 09:17.40 | nevcairiel | abbat_w: nah, that would add even more bloat |
| 09:17.44 | sylvanaar | Corgan you can, uncheck show groups = easier to just read the rss feed |
| 09:18.01 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, but users use you addon |
| 09:18.02 | sag_ich_nicht | being unable to hold down a button waiting to releasin it |
| 09:18.03 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 09:18.08 | Corgan | show groups? where |
| 09:18.15 | sylvanaar | somewhere |
| 09:18.16 | abbat_w | sag, you are pve player i think? |
| 09:18.19 | sylvanaar | look |
| 09:18.27 | Corgan | blargh |
| 09:18.28 | Corgan | I am |
| 09:18.30 | sag_ich_nicht | *being unable to hold down a button while casting another spelll while using /stopcasting macros=pain in the ass |
| 09:18.31 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed. |
| 09:18.31 | nevcairiel | abbat_w: sure they do, but what do i get from that? :) |
| 09:18.39 | Corgan | oh wow |
| 09:18.41 | Corgan | i'm retarded |
| 09:18.42 | Corgan | :D |
| 09:19.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:18] <abbat_w> sag, you are pve player i think? <--no, not really. i just have a keyboard that doesn't suck |
| 09:19.12 | Recluse | rofl |
| 09:19.26 | sag_ich_nicht | buckling spring >:O |
| 09:19.31 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, ok, let me explain. You wrote nice addon. But wow users come to bt3 from different addons. Someone switch from dab, someone from x-perl, someone from default ui |
| 09:19.45 | sag_ich_nicht | xperl doesn't do anything about the buttons, abbat_w |
| 09:19.49 | sag_ich_nicht | xperl is a unit frame |
| 09:19.49 | orionshock | x-perl not a AB addon |
| 09:19.56 | abbat_w | i never use x-perl |
| 09:20.04 | abbat_w | and don't know what is it |
| 09:20.06 | sag_ich_nicht | then don't say something about it. |
| 09:20.08 | sag_ich_nicht | unitframes. |
| 09:20.11 | abbat_w | But it's doesn't matter |
| 09:20.11 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: nevcairiel does not want the feature, he's author -> it will not be done |
| 09:20.17 | abbat_w | Yes |
| 09:20.22 | abbat_w | He is author |
| 09:20.31 | nevcairiel | I dont get anything from happy users |
| 09:20.39 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:20.39 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel so why did you publish your addon? |
| 09:20.50 | sag_ich_nicht | keep it to yourself, in that case |
| 09:20.56 | sag_ich_nicht | go on, delete it from the SVN |
| 09:20.57 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 09:21.00 | [Ammo] | good idea nevcairiel, close it down |
| 09:21.02 | nevcairiel | i can share what i create |
| 09:21.08 | [Ammo] | get rid of the damn whiners |
| 09:21.10 | art3mis | hrm anyone mucked with eepanels2? |
| 09:21.23 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, not all users of you addon come from ui where action processed by releasing buttons. In some cases it's doesn't matter anything |
| 09:21.33 | abbat_w | But for me in pvp - it's a time critical |
| 09:21.36 | nevcairiel | abbat_w: yo, so? i dont care :) |
| 09:21.56 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel you should just add a "This addon is not supported in any way by it's author" message on load to BT3 |
| 09:22.03 | Recluse | XD |
| 09:22.05 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, adding this option will allow more users to use bt3 with much comfort |
| 09:22.08 | sag_ich_nicht | if you don't even consider considering user requests :P |
| 09:22.15 | nevcairiel | i consider requests |
| 09:22.18 | Corgan | I love BT3 <3 |
| 09:22.23 | nevcairiel | and i came to the conclusion that i wont add that one |
| 09:22.24 | abbat_w | i love bt3 to |
| 09:22.32 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, why? |
| 09:22.35 | Corgan | I love it without that option |
| 09:22.39 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel would you accept a patch that adds it? |
| 09:22.44 | nevcairiel | no |
| 09:22.45 | art3mis | nev you delete bt3 from the svn and ill drive over and beat you to death with a plushie cthulu ;P |
| 09:22.51 | Corgan | ^ |
| 09:22.55 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 09:23.01 | theoddone33 | oh hey wow it's my birthday |
| 09:23.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:22] <nevcairiel> no <--is there a reason for that? |
| 09:23.10 | art3mis | wow better change yer nick ;P |
| 09:23.12 | theoddone33 | maybe someone will get me a 70 priest |
| 09:23.16 | art3mis | theoddone34 ;P |
| 09:23.16 | abbat_w | no reason |
| 09:23.23 | abbat_w | just lazy druid ;) |
| 09:23.24 | Recluse | theoddone33: grats on your ding |
| 09:23.29 | theoddone33 | hah, thanks |
| 09:23.45 | art3mis | so is it evl that made eepanels2? |
| 09:23.45 | theoddone27 | there |
| 09:23.53 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: its not like i dont want to code it, its simply i dont want that feature in. its stupid. you drag potions on your bars, and you drink them. comeone. |
| 09:23.59 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: run into a snag on the ratio crap for the bottom panels |
| 09:24.01 | art3mis | ran |
| 09:24.09 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, it's not a stupid |
| 09:24.20 | abbat_w | Look at other users |
| 09:24.24 | art3mis | eepanels and dischordart dont like it when you specify the panel size ahead of time ;P |
| 09:24.30 | nevcairiel | it wont happen |
| 09:24.49 | art3mis | of course i may have fergotten to flatten the file |
| 09:24.51 | Corgan | I wonder if Violation is ever gonna have the option to make the panel transparent.. |
| 09:24.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:23] <nevcairiel> sag_ich_nicht: its not like i dont want to code it, its simply i dont want that feature in. its stupid. you drag potions on your bars, and you drink them. comeone. <--well you could make it so it's only enabled(when yu even turned it on) once the bars are locked |
| 09:25.06 | sag_ich_nicht | or when it's turned on, make it so you can only drag with rightclick |
| 09:25.07 | sag_ich_nicht | or something |
| 09:25.21 | abbat_w | sag, we told him about this |
| 09:25.25 | abbat_w | he just won't ;) |
| 09:25.29 | nevcairiel | rightclick is also casting |
| 09:25.34 | Recluse | shift-drag :p |
| 09:25.35 | abbat_w | click? :) |
| 09:25.36 | art3mis | talking about adding autobar features to bt3? |
| 09:25.38 | abbat_w | loool ;) |
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| 09:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis no. |
| 09:25.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 09:25.46 | abbat_w | Who told about clicking in pvp? :) |
| 09:25.47 | art3mis | or some lame selector auto thingy? |
| 09:25.54 | sag_ich_nicht | abbat_w this is about dragging |
| 09:25.55 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: just write your own actionbar |
| 09:25.57 | sag_ich_nicht | not clicking itself |
| 09:25.59 | [Ammo] | problem solved |
| 09:26.08 | art3mis | ammo! |
| 09:26.19 | abbat_w | I solve problem with changing anydown -> anyup in bt3 src |
| 09:26.19 | art3mis | remove the cycircledhk from the svn |
| 09:26.27 | art3mis | thrae broke it and its fucking lots of people up |
| 09:26.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i wonder if Mr. Antiarc SIR is ever going to FUCKING FIX THAT OMEN BUG |
| 09:26.29 | sag_ich_nicht | brb |
| 09:26.34 | Antiarc | actually |
| 09:26.35 | orionshock | i like [Ammo]'s aproch, if u don't like it code your onw; other wise ask for it or shut up |
| 09:26.37 | Antiarc | I decided to leave it in |
| 09:26.40 | Antiarc | To piss you off. :) |
| 09:26.47 | nevcairiel | in fact, next major version of bartender ( prolly with Ace3 ), will strip down some useless features |
| 09:27.04 | Recluse | oh? |
| 09:27.08 | [Ammo] | remove the bloat! |
| 09:27.08 | art3mis | nevcairiel: like the fact that it autohides bars 2 and 3 but enables 4 5 6? |
| 09:27.23 | abbat_w | orionshock, i ask about option. Not to change it by default, but adding option to switch. So, user can select. It's important |
| 09:27.25 | nevcairiel | art3mis: thats only to emulate default blizzy bars |
| 09:27.25 | art3mis | on first load like a retarded child eatting crayons? |
| 09:27.36 | art3mis | its damn annoying thats what it is ;P |
| 09:27.40 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 09:27.45 | nevcairiel | i might change that |
| 09:27.45 | Tekkub | hrm, should I set CIA to echo here too now? |
| 09:27.48 | orionshock | ? |
| 09:27.50 | Tekkub | for my SVN |
| 09:27.53 | art3mis | cuz i always forget to enabled them before i cycircle em ;P |
| 09:27.55 | [Ammo] | Tekkub: sure |
| 09:28.08 | art3mis | so ive got some textured and the rset are square ;P |
| 09:28.26 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:26] <+Antiarc> To piss you off. :) <--o rly |
| 09:28.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc you know i don't mean it that way :P |
| 09:29.10 | Corgan | nev, what kind of features? |
| 09:29.14 | Corgan | will get stripped |
| 09:29.45 | Pkekyo | g'mornin all |
| 09:29.47 | abbat_w | yeah |
| 09:29.55 | [Ammo] | all teh bloat |
| 09:30.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc i know it's not your fault that it's still not fixed, i'm just desperate because my guildies keep on bugging me about it >.> |
| 09:30.01 | nevcairiel | fadeout for sure |
| 09:30.02 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, what you plan to remove from bt3? |
| 09:30.03 | [Ammo] | it'll get a good lyposuction |
| 09:30.12 | Corgan | yay |
| 09:30.14 | Corgan | fadeout is gay |
| 09:30.21 | art3mis | wheee bed time for me |
| 09:30.26 | abbat_w | fadeout? why? i never use it but see some ui where ppl uses fadeout |
| 09:30.35 | [dRaCo] | fadeout rocks :/ |
| 09:30.35 | [Ammo] | oh and it'll no longer work in arenas because it gives pvpers an unfair advantage |
| 09:30.35 | abbat_w | or it's hard to support? |
| 09:30.44 | [Ammo] | it'll revert back to the blizzard bars in pvp |
| 09:30.45 | nevcairiel | i can prolly stuff it into a extra module |
| 09:30.53 | [dRaCo] | yay |
| 09:31.02 | Corgan | lol |
| 09:31.05 | Corgan | unfair in pvp |
| 09:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:30] <@[Ammo]> it'll revert back to the blizzard bars in pvp <--what. |
| 09:31.21 | Corgan | XD |
| 09:31.26 | Corgan | win |
| 09:31.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo] you are a troll |
| 09:31.32 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart [Ammo] |
| 09:31.32 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses [Ammo]'s head to break the homerun record |
| 09:31.36 | nevcairiel | but a troll with op |
| 09:31.47 | abbat_w | Ammo ;) I use action bars only for see cooldowns ;) All my spells are binded ;) |
| 09:31.47 | [Ammo] | just wanted to see if anyone was hungry |
| 09:32.14 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't change the fact that he is competition for me |
| 09:32.16 | sag_ich_nicht | which is bad |
| 09:32.32 | [Ammo] | not really, fisker is that |
| 09:32.35 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 09:32.42 | sag_ich_nicht | fisker is just an insult machine |
| 09:32.47 | Antiarc | Waaaaaait a sec. |
| 09:32.50 | Antiarc | (2:32:29 AM) ***purl pulls out his louisville slugger and uses [Ammo]'s head to break the homerun record |
| 09:32.56 | Antiarc | I thought purl was a girl? |
| 09:33.02 | sag_ich_nicht | purl is omnisexual. |
| 09:33.05 | sag_ich_nicht | also hi Antiarc |
| 09:33.09 | [dRaCo] | all hail fisker, the uber troll. |
| 09:33.13 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:30] <sag_ich_nicht> Antiarc i know it's not your fault that it's still not fixed, i'm just desperate because my guildies keep on bugging me about it >.> |
| 09:33.15 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 09:33.26 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: It's actually a part of my grand plot to get you lynched |
| 09:33.31 | [Ammo] | what is not fixed? |
| 09:33.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't habeeb it |
| 09:33.42 | nevcairiel | i dunno, didnt encounter any serious bugs in omen |
| 09:33.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo]: a rare bug in omen that makes it not display aggro vlaues |
| 09:33.49 | sag_ich_nicht | *values |
| 09:33.51 | sag_ich_nicht | after zoning |
| 09:33.54 | [Ammo] | must be really rare |
| 09:33.56 | sag_ich_nicht | it is fixed by a /reloadui |
| 09:33.59 | CIA-22 | 03durash * r48362 10cht/ (. cht.lua cht.toc gemchat_plugin.lua): |
| 09:33.59 | CIA-22 | cht: |
| 09:33.59 | CIA-22 | - join/leave channel event implementation changed |
| 09:34.06 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, which is why i sent Antiarc my interface so he can reproduce it |
| 09:34.09 | [Ammo] | I suggest deleting all addons and start over |
| 09:34.18 | nevcairiel | when do you zone while raiding? |
| 09:34.22 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo] no, not really gonna happen |
| 09:34.24 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel wipe |
| 09:34.28 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 09:34.28 | nevcairiel | so dont |
| 09:34.30 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 09:34.32 | [Ammo] | stop wiping |
| 09:34.34 | [Ammo] | be a pro |
| 09:34.39 | nevcairiel | play hardcore |
| 09:34.40 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 09:34.40 | sag_ich_nicht | also 5 mans |
| 09:34.52 | nevcairiel | wow needs a hardcore mode |
| 09:34.55 | abbat_w | ahah ;) |
| 09:34.57 | nevcairiel | once you die, you stay dead for a day |
| 09:35.00 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:35.04 | abbat_w | agree |
| 09:35.08 | [Ammo] | what wow needs is less shit pvp |
| 09:35.11 | sag_ich_nicht | our server pop is like 9k and we are a release server, it sucks |
| 09:35.14 | [Ammo] | you die, people get to pick your corpse clean |
| 09:35.22 | abbat_w | please put hidden easter egg into Threat lib |
| 09:35.22 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:35.29 | abbat_w | Random 'bug' |
| 09:35.35 | abbat_w | For wiping ppl ;) |
| 09:35.47 | Antiarc | I've been threatening to do that to one of our mages |
| 09:35.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: guess you still didn't have time to look at it? |
| 09:36.04 | Antiarc | No, I just logged onto wow for the first time today like...15 minutes ago |
| 09:36.04 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: put an easteregg in BT3 please, changing value of buttonpress to AnyDown -> strip naked and dance |
| 09:36.07 | Antiarc | And it's 2:30 AM here |
| 09:36.13 | Corgan | lol |
| 09:36.20 | [Ammo] | that should teach them filthy pvp cheaters |
| 09:36.23 | abbat_w | Please add hidden option to showing wrong threat for locks ;) |
| 09:36.29 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: more like a timed event to unbind all keys mid-arena |
| 09:36.36 | Corgan | yes! |
| 09:36.38 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: haha yeah |
| 09:36.42 | [Ammo] | at random! |
| 09:36.43 | abbat_w | I hope they all die ;) |
| 09:37.01 | nevcairiel | whenever someone targets me, their keys unbind |
| 09:37.02 | nevcairiel | fun! |
| 09:37.03 | [Ammo] | I played without a threatmeter until 2 months ago |
| 09:37.08 | [Ammo] | still don't reaally use it |
| 09:37.18 | Antiarc | What class? |
| 09:37.20 | [Ammo] | lock |
| 09:37.21 | abbat_w | lock |
| 09:37.34 | Nickenyfiken | cheat class! |
| 09:37.36 | abbat_w | COE don't create any threat i think |
| 09:37.40 | abbat_w | soulstones too ;) |
| 09:37.43 | Antiarc | It's about 48 threat |
| 09:37.44 | [Ammo] | coe creates threat |
| 09:37.45 | Nickenyfiken | My shaman is married to Omen :-P |
| 09:37.49 | abbat_w | 48? :) |
| 09:37.52 | [Ammo] | before al'ar |
| 09:37.53 | [Ammo] | the birdies |
| 09:37.53 | abbat_w | ahaha, damnd ;) |
| 09:37.57 | [Ammo] | tank pulls em |
| 09:38.02 | [Ammo] | I slap CoE on -> dead ammo |
| 09:38.07 | orionshock | how do u know ur playing with noobs |
| 09:38.13 | abbat_w | but 48 - it's nothing |
| 09:38.20 | [Ammo] | it's enough if the tank has 0 |
| 09:38.26 | abbat_w | ah, yes |
| 09:38.32 | orionshock | they don't know what a 45min UD strat run is for your tier .5 set |
| 09:38.53 | [Ammo] | pff that's newstyle junk |
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| 09:39.00 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 09:39.01 | Corgan | plainsrunning |
| 09:39.11 | nevcairiel | stupid people who didnt play original wow |
| 09:39.15 | [Ammo] | vaelstrasz without threatmeters.... |
| 09:39.15 | Antiarc | in-combat rezzing...as a paladin |
| 09:39.24 | Adirelle|Work | gonna leave this channel, I'm supposely working, but my productivity is close to zero |
| 09:39.27 | [Ammo] | yeah the ooc plly in MC |
| 09:39.28 | orionshock | Antiarc: ouch |
| 09:39.29 | Adirelle|Work | later |
| 09:39.31 | nevcairiel | in original wow we never used threatmeters |
| 09:39.31 | *** part/#wowace Adirelle|Work (n=Adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:39.32 | abbat_w | original wow doesn't have .5 sets ;) |
| 09:39.36 | Nickenyfiken | will somenoe pleeeeeeeeeeese think of the children!? |
| 09:39.40 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 09:39.40 | abbat_w | and original stat was 10 ppl ;) |
| 09:39.51 | nevcairiel | only loosers went there with 10 |
| 09:39.55 | Nickenyfiken | 10 man Strat yeah |
| 09:39.57 | [Ammo] | true that |
| 09:39.58 | abbat_w | and yes, no threatmeter |
| 09:40.09 | Antiarc | "wait for 5 sunders, then attack" |
| 09:40.12 | Antiarc | That was our threatmeter :) |
| 09:40.12 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:40.13 | Nickenyfiken | That was times, they should have make it harder instead of making it a 5-man |
| 09:40.17 | abbat_w | ahah, yes ;) |
| 09:40.19 | Corgan | lol tank with sunders |
| 09:40.34 | [Ammo] | old school |
| 09:40.47 | abbat_w | Stat was nerfed many times |
| 09:40.56 | abbat_w | like scholo |
| 09:40.59 | [Ammo] | everything gets nerfed all the time |
| 09:40.59 | abbat_w | and ubrs |
| 09:41.17 | orionshock | can't forget good old fashion UBRS |
| 09:41.23 | [dRaCo] | everything except locks :/ |
| 09:41.26 | [dRaCo] | nerf locks! |
| 09:41.32 | abbat_w | nerf? |
| 09:41.35 | Corgan | buff locks! |
| 09:41.37 | Nickenyfiken | It's easier for blizz to nerf, if they make it hard all kids cry when they go to bed |
| 09:41.41 | orionshock | no nerf them out of the game |
| 09:41.44 | abbat_w | look at s2 second bonus changes for locks ;) |
| 09:41.46 | Corgan | buff locks! |
| 09:41.49 | abbat_w | -0.2 sec on fear cast |
| 09:41.52 | abbat_w | this is nerf! |
| 09:41.57 | Antiarc | Locks should get a strider fear aura |
| 09:42.03 | Antiarc | Right after rogues get CloS as a passive |
| 09:42.03 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 09:42.03 | [Ammo] | aoe death coil |
| 09:42.05 | [dRaCo] | why is that a nerf? |
| 09:42.07 | Antiarc | :) |
| 09:42.14 | Nickenyfiken | They should nerf Holy priests, they heal to good! |
| 09:42.35 | nevcairiel | nah holy priests are crappy enough as it is |
| 09:42.37 | abbat_w | druids need buff |
| 09:42.43 | [Ammo] | you only need 1 holy priest in a raid |
| 09:42.46 | [Ammo] | for the spirit buff |
| 09:42.47 | [Ammo] | nuff said |
| 09:42.59 | [dRaCo] | buff shamans' aggro reduce |
| 09:42.59 | Corgan | lulz |
| 09:43.01 | Nickenyfiken | Druids need another form! |
| 09:43.05 | orionshock | ammo i belive that the spi buff is disco |
| 09:43.09 | Nickenyfiken | Combat flight form as a black dragon |
| 09:43.42 | orionshock | no new druid form is dire kitty form -- where you turn into a rogue |
| 09:43.45 | Recluse | i had a friend who deleted their 70 priest cause paladins stole the limelight >.> |
| 09:43.46 | [Ammo] | orionshock: maybe I should have said: one non-shadow priest |
| 09:44.07 | abbat_w | hahah ;) |
| 09:44.10 | Nickenyfiken | hehe what do you gain when deleting a character? |
| 09:44.10 | abbat_w | Loot whore ;) |
| 09:44.19 | Nickenyfiken | another char spot on the realm? |
| 09:44.20 | Corgan | another character slot |
| 09:44.22 | Corgan | lol |
| 09:45.27 | Recluse | speaking of character slots, i'm sad that i will have to delete a 70 if i want to make one of those blood knights :/ |
| 09:45.36 | Nickenyfiken | Anyone have lvl 70s in both factions on same realm? |
| 09:45.46 | Corgan | Ammo, feel like making an option to make violation windows transparent? |
| 09:45.54 | [dRaCo] | friend of mine has... alliance paladin and horde mage |
| 09:46.03 | Corgan | either that, or give the windows names |
| 09:46.27 | [dRaCo] | though I keep on bashing him for playing alliance ;) |
| 09:46.39 | Nickenyfiken | I hate pvp realms, there is no real world pvp anyway. Too bad i have all my chars on pvp realms :-P |
| 09:47.03 | Recluse | yay movie time |
| 09:47.55 | [Ammo] | Corgan: not really, I'm not much of a gui coder |
| 09:47.58 | Corgan | oh |
| 09:48.01 | [Ammo] | it may come |
| 09:48.02 | Corgan | k :\ |
| 09:48.03 | [Ammo] | evnetually |
| 09:48.12 | [Ammo] | for now vio does it's thing |
| 09:48.23 | [Ammo] | it has no glaring bugs |
| 09:48.24 | Corgan | it could just be added to the dropdown menu |
| 09:48.29 | [Ammo] | I know |
| 09:48.32 | Corgan | to change the backdrop to nil |
| 09:48.38 | [Ammo] | I just don't feel like fidling with it |
| 09:48.42 | Corgan | kay |
| 09:48.56 | [Ammo] | someone gives me a good working patch I'll check it out |
| 09:49.06 | [Ammo] | but focussing on other (ace3) stuff atm |
| 09:49.15 | Corgan | kk |
| 09:49.17 | [Ammo] | bugs will be fixed ofcourse |
| 09:49.22 | [Ammo] | the project is not abandoned |
| 09:49.25 | abbat_w | Corgan, fix this and send to Ammo |
| 09:49.39 | Corgan | I have no idea how to do it |
| 09:49.41 | Corgan | otherwise I would |
| 09:49.42 | Corgan | :p |
| 09:49.51 | abbat_w | Or this never be changed because ace3 and new version of violation mayber (ace3) |
| 09:50.23 | abbat_w | You can ask in forums, someone can do this for you |
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| 09:50.52 | Industrial | ~seen phanx |
| 09:50.55 | purl | phanx <n=phanx133@71-210-80-180.blng.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17d 8h 30m 46s ago, saying: 'Okay, I think I got it this time. :S'. |
| 10:04.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:36] <+Antiarc> No, I just logged onto wow for the first time today like...15 minutes ago <--lawl |
| 10:05.14 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@83.101.11.153) |
| 10:06.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:42] <@[Ammo]> you only need 1 holy priest in a raid <--a disc priest would provide more utility while still provind the spirit buff :P |
| 10:07.04 | ramoz | what can a disc priest bring? |
| 10:07.20 | abbat_w | pi only ;) |
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| 10:08.29 | ramoz | do they do any dmg? :O |
| 10:09.18 | sag_ich_nicht | more than a holy priest :P |
| 10:09.23 | sica | after 2.2 they bring a mini shieldwall \o/ - hopefully |
| 10:09.45 | abbat_w | yeah |
| 10:09.51 | abbat_w | pain supression on other ppl |
| 10:10.16 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 10:10.17 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 10:10.33 | sica | no? |
| 10:10.50 | sag_ich_nicht | pain supression is self only, last time i checked. did i miss something in the 2.2 patchnotes or something? |
| 10:11.49 | Corgan | yes |
| 10:11.57 | Corgan | PS is targetable in 2.2 |
| 10:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn |
| 10:12.30 | sag_ich_nicht | *doesn't say that in the patchnotes |
| 10:12.56 | sag_ich_nicht | unintended functionality or missing patchnotes? |
| 10:13.13 | Corgan | missing patchnotes or something |
| 10:14.05 | sica | I'm not sure, AFAIK the only note in the patchnotes is a change in the dispell resistance of PS |
| 10:14.31 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 10:14.38 | abbat_w | i'm sure i read about PS |
| 10:15.12 | abbat_w | and in 2.2 or 2.3 (doesn't remember correctly) priest have ability to cast PS on other ppl |
| 10:15.12 | Corgan | oh |
| 10:15.14 | Corgan | it's not 2.2 |
| 10:15.17 | Corgan | it's WotLK |
| 10:15.21 | abbat_w | ah |
| 10:15.35 | Corgan | "The cooldown has been reduced to 1 minute and you can now cast the spell on a friend up to a 20yards range." |
| 10:15.40 | sica | dammit, sorry for causing this confusion |
| 10:15.41 | abbat_w | so, it's can be released in about a year :) |
| 10:16.00 | Corgan | "It seems that the WotLK client at the Games Convention had the Pain Suppression priest spell changed." |
| 10:16.08 | abbat_w | it's new, upgraded version on priest shield ;) |
| 10:16.32 | sica | shadowtree 4tw! |
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| 10:17.24 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 10:17.35 | sag_ich_nicht | that change is probably going to go into 2.3 already |
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| 10:23.54 | abbat_w | 2.3.. it's about 2-2.5 months i think |
| 10:25.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i think it's already live internally. |
| 10:26.07 | sag_ich_nicht | 2.2 is just taking forever because of the sound bugs |
| 10:26.22 | sag_ich_nicht | someone tell me what's the date on the fmod.dll of the current PTR build |
| 10:27.07 | orionshock | wooo... pointless wow triva... what is the only leather FR belt that is not crafted from preTBC? |
| 10:29.02 | Xinhuan | Try my addon please :) - http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8317.0 |
| 10:30.07 | abbat_w | Xinhuan, do you have Fubar plugin to switch gear? |
| 10:30.20 | Xinhuan | no, my addon isn't an addon that manages gear |
| 10:30.21 | abbat_w | i mean you addon have it? Like Fubar_ItemRackFu |
| 10:30.35 | abbat_w | ah, sorry |
| 10:30.35 | Xinhuan | it is an addon that is more like ct-profiles |
| 10:30.39 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r48363 10Elephant/ (7 files): |
| 10:30.39 | CIA-22 | Elephant: |
| 10:30.39 | CIA-22 | - Only catches messages if catcher is default or enable. |
| 10:30.39 | CIA-22 | - Clean code = WIN COOKIE |
| 10:30.41 | abbat_w | stat compare |
| 10:30.45 | Xinhuan | set up the set of gear you want, compare stats, etc |
| 10:31.18 | Xinhuan | like "if i swap these 4 pieces of gear, what's my stats difference" |
| 10:31.20 | Xinhuan | kind of thing |
| 10:32.49 | Xinhuan | or for seeing "how much more crit and +damage does that guy have more than me" :) |
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| 10:33.07 | Corgan | Xinhuan, I <3 your addon |
| 10:33.25 | Corgan | something that's been needed forever |
| 10:33.35 | Xinhuan | its like a ratingbuster extension heh |
| 10:33.44 | abbat_w | Xinhuan, can addon work with gems? |
| 10:33.47 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:33.55 | abbat_w | it is possible to virtually swap gems? |
| 10:33.56 | Xinhuan | you can right click a equipment to select the gems |
| 10:33.58 | Xinhuan | you want |
| 10:33.59 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 10:34.05 | abbat_w | damnd nice |
| 10:34.12 | Xinhuan | i should have every enchant/gem in the game in the menus |
| 10:34.23 | Xinhuan | even the naxx shoulder enchants and stugg |
| 10:34.24 | Xinhuan | stuff |
| 10:35.16 | Corgan | hrmm |
| 10:35.19 | Corgan | what's bugging me about it |
| 10:35.24 | Corgan | is that when you click on an item |
| 10:35.37 | Corgan | and it displays the list of items that you can choose from |
| 10:35.44 | Corgan | if you mouseover the item bonus summary box |
| 10:35.54 | Corgan | the list of items disapears |
| 10:36.05 | Corgan | so, if you click on the gloves or something near the top |
| 10:36.13 | Corgan | you have to avoid the item bonus summary box |
| 10:36.14 | Corgan | :/ |
| 10:36.16 | Xinhuan | that's intended since you don't usually use the searchbox hehe |
| 10:36.48 | Xinhuan | i've found that the most often used thing is really to copy someone's gear into wowequip, to see stats of that guy's gear |
| 10:36.55 | Xinhuan | and to save a copy for future reference |
| 10:37.18 | Corgan | you can't just make an [x] in the top left of the searchbox? |
| 10:37.24 | Corgan | er |
| 10:37.25 | Corgan | top right |
| 10:37.28 | Corgan | or something like that |
| 10:37.51 | Xinhuan | what would that do? |
| 10:38.12 | Corgan | if you accidently mouse over the item bonus summary box |
| 10:38.16 | Corgan | the searchbox dissapears |
| 10:38.26 | Corgan | it gets annoying having to avoid the item bonus summary box |
| 10:38.26 | Corgan | :\ |
| 10:38.28 | Xinhuan | so a button to toggle the mouseover? |
| 10:38.45 | Corgan | a button to toggle the searchbox |
| 10:39.03 | Corgan | like, if you click on an itemslot, it'll open the searchbox |
| 10:39.22 | Corgan | if you click the x |
| 10:39.24 | Corgan | it closes it |
| 10:39.50 | Xinhuan | oh, you mean keep the bonus summary expanded all the time, and only display the searchbox on clicking an itemslot (and it doesn't expand/shrink)? |
| 10:40.01 | Xinhuan | until clicking the X to close search |
| 10:40.07 | orionshock | >.> shammy tanking UD strat |
| 10:40.53 | Corgan | Xinhuan, exactly |
| 10:41.11 | Xinhuan | ok i'll think about doing that |
| 10:41.18 | Corgan | kk |
| 10:42.19 | Xinhuan | can you post in the thread so i won't forget? :) |
| 10:42.30 | Xinhuan | the UI can definitely be improved a bit |
| 10:42.43 | Corgan | k |
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| 10:54.51 | sag_ich_nicht | someone with the current PTR client installed here? |
| 10:55.31 | Xinhuan | me |
| 10:55.52 | Pkekyo | anyone able to explain to me what AMD Cool 'n Quiet is? |
| 10:56.13 | Xinhuan | Pkekyo: google :) |
| 10:56.33 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: is there a new series of sets/tiers on PTR? |
| 10:56.42 | abbat_w | If you cpu doesn't do some hard calculation, this technoly lower cpu freq i think |
| 10:56.44 | Xinhuan | the premades that you can copy |
| 10:56.48 | Xinhuan | have T6 gear |
| 10:56.56 | abbat_w | So, you cpu cool, you coolers quiet ;) |
| 10:57.37 | Pkekyo | meh, it's just a powersaving feature :< |
| 10:57.49 | Xinhuan | google will answer your question |
| 10:57.54 | Pkekyo | just did |
| 10:58.04 | Xinhuan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool'n'Quiet |
| 10:58.05 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 10:58.05 | Pkekyo | they did it so greenpeace will stfu :p |
| 10:58.34 | abbat_w | --- |
| 10:58.35 | abbat_w | It works by reducing the processor's clock rate and voltage when the processor is unutilized |
| 10:58.36 | abbat_w | --- |
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| 10:58.59 | Pkekyo | also known as the GreenPeace-stfu button :> |
| 10:59.23 | abbat_w | greenpeace? |
| 10:59.26 | Pkekyo | that joke went sour fast :< |
| 10:59.32 | abbat_w | never see those guys ;) |
| 10:59.38 | Pkekyo | abbat_w: I don't know many environmentalists :p |
| 10:59.42 | abbat_w | possible GP not active in russia ;) |
| 10:59.59 | Pkekyo | probably aren't |
| 11:00.31 | Pkekyo | they have a fetish for charging oilrigs and whalecatch ships |
| 11:01.23 | abbat_w | pff... |
| 11:01.27 | abbat_w | crazy guys |
| 11:01.52 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 11:02.27 | Pkekyo | they're like terrorists, only with a nature fetish, and they don't use weapons because the creation of weapons pollutes the nature |
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| 11:03.25 | abbat_w | Ahah ;) |
| 11:04.18 | Pkekyo | something like that anyways ;> |
| 11:04.28 | Pkekyo | much like PETA that throw paint at fashion models |
| 11:04.48 | Pkekyo | really, they're just common terrorists with shitty training ;> |
| 11:04.50 | abbat_w | But i like if my computer quiet ;) |
| 11:05.18 | Xinhuan | how did this turn into a PETA discussion? o_O *biggles* |
| 11:05.24 | Xinhuan | s/biggles/boggles |
| 11:05.38 | abbat_w | But i don't like if my notebook switch cpu freq to lower while i work in ms word ;) |
| 11:05.40 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: didn't, just namedropped a similar reference |
| 11:05.46 | Pkekyo | I have so many system fans I'm pretty sure I could produce a tornado inside my chassis :p |
| 11:06.12 | Pkekyo | - as abbat_w did not know Greenpeace |
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| 11:07.20 | Pkekyo | abbat_w: is use of steroid common in russia? |
| 11:07.59 | abbat_w | hmm... don't know |
| 11:08.03 | abbat_w | i don't use ;) |
| 11:08.18 | Pkekyo | there seems to be so many big russians |
| 11:08.36 | abbat_w | But possible yes because some of my friends who like powerlifting sometimes use steroids |
| 11:08.57 | abbat_w | Pkekyo, we live in hard climat ;) We should not be small ;) |
| 11:09.00 | Pkekyo | seems with russians, either they're big as a truck, or long, skinny people :p |
| 11:09.10 | abbat_w | Ahahh ;) |
| 11:09.11 | Pkekyo | abbat_w: ditto |
| 11:09.36 | Pkekyo | I'm your neighbour to the west |
| 11:09.59 | abbat_w | europe |
| 11:10.16 | Pkekyo | norway |
| 11:10.52 | Pkekyo | shittiest place to be nowadays...weather just...sucks |
| 11:11.00 | abbat_w | Hahah ;) |
| 11:11.04 | Pkekyo | it's been raining non-stop for about 70hrs now |
| 11:11.26 | abbat_w | +10C in St. Petersburg / Russia now |
| 11:11.30 | Pkekyo | and we almost don't have winters anymore...piece of shit climate changes |
| 11:11.38 | abbat_w | Same for us |
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| 11:11.54 | Pkekyo | +12C and heavy, constant rain here... mid-western norway |
| 11:12.00 | abbat_w | I forget good winters with -10..-15 C and snow |
| 11:12.17 | abbat_w | Now we have -1..-5, sometimes rain with snow etc |
| 11:12.23 | Pkekyo | when I was a kid there used to be like 2 meters of snow every fricking winter! |
| 11:12.48 | Pkekyo | now we get like 20cm MAX at the same time, and it rains away to form ice immediately anyways :< |
| 11:12.54 | abbat_w | Yeah. When i was i kid i never see new year w/o snow |
| 11:12.57 | Corey | u call -15 a hard climate? |
| 11:13.08 | abbat_w | Corey, no |
| 11:13.11 | Pkekyo | it's not THAT hard tbh |
| 11:13.16 | Pkekyo | I've slept outside in -20 |
| 11:13.17 | abbat_w | Last winter have -35 in SpB |
| 11:13.24 | Corey | it gets a lot worse over here |
| 11:13.26 | Corey | we get to -40 |
| 11:13.28 | abbat_w | But 3-5 days in winter |
| 11:13.33 | Pkekyo | Corey: where? |
| 11:13.34 | abbat_w | Rest time - crap weather |
| 11:13.41 | Corey | canada ontario |
| 11:13.46 | abbat_w | In Yakutia we have -50 and it's ok |
| 11:13.50 | Pkekyo | canada is awesome :> |
| 11:14.11 | Pkekyo | Corey: how's climate changes affecting your snow during winter? |
| 11:14.14 | Corey | -50 is just evil |
| 11:14.21 | Nickenyfiken | Hehe depends on humidity too |
| 11:14.28 | abbat_w | Yep, depends |
| 11:14.38 | abbat_w | In wet climat -50 be evil |
| 11:14.39 | Pkekyo | if the air is low on humidity -50c is fine |
| 11:14.42 | Corey | winter came late last year |
| 11:14.52 | Pkekyo | I miss my snow :< |
| 11:15.01 | Corey | didn't get a white christmas for the first time |
| 11:15.03 | abbat_w | Heh, i think GreenPeace guys not crazy btw ;) |
| 11:15.31 | Pkekyo | abbat_w: they have a point, that's true, but the way they try to show their point and convince others of it is crazy |
| 11:15.36 | Pkekyo | Corey: that's so sad :< |
| 11:15.40 | Pkekyo | same with us last year |
| 11:16.03 | Pkekyo | we had maybe 1-1.5 weeks of real snow...not much of it though |
| 11:16.49 | Nickenyfiken | STAB HACK SLASH KILL!!! |
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| 11:16.57 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 11:17.01 | Corey | i dont mind the weather changes so much, it will suck when the natural disasters start popping up though |
| 11:17.11 | Pkekyo | I just want my snow :< |
| 11:17.13 | Nickenyfiken | 1. Cannibal Corpse - Vile - Puncture Wound Massacre (1:41) Best WoW track ever |
| 11:17.30 | Pkekyo | Nickenyfiken: corrected: best ROGUE track ever |
| 11:17.43 | Pkekyo | Corey: as a snowboarder and photographer, not getting snow is a nightmare :< |
| 11:17.52 | Nickenyfiken | Maybe |
| 11:17.57 | Corey | ya |
| 11:18.12 | Pkekyo | it also ruins alot of the christmas feeling, once you grow older and stop feeling the 'christmas magic' |
| 11:18.36 | Corgan | :( |
| 11:18.54 | Corey | i blame elvis, because i can.. |
| 11:19.02 | Pkekyo | haha ftw |
| 11:19.22 | Pkekyo | I blame Bush tbh...migh as well, as I blame pretty much everything else on him ^^ |
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| 11:19.51 | Corey | lol |
| 11:20.06 | abbat_w | Bush? |
| 11:20.06 | Corey | ill blame him for fruit cakes |
| 11:20.08 | Corey | can't get much worse than that |
| 11:20.10 | abbat_w | Nice guy btw ;) |
| 11:20.26 | abbat_w | I think Bush sometimes like Eltsin ;) Do very funny things ;) |
| 11:20.56 | Corey | he can't even read a teleprompter properly |
| 11:21.56 | abbat_w | Hahah ;) |
| 11:22.08 | abbat_w | yep. and think what austria == australia ;) |
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| 11:23.22 | Nickenyfiken | I would like WoW to have seasons in all areas. would be so cool. |
| 11:23.40 | Nickenyfiken | Winterspring would always have snow, but less in the summer. |
| 11:23.44 | Nickenyfiken | as an example |
| 11:24.04 | Corey | don't suggest that |
| 11:24.08 | Corey | they'll break something trying to add it |
| 11:24.14 | Corgan | lol |
| 11:24.33 | Pkekyo | meh, I manage to turn EVERYTHING into a geopolitical discussion :P |
| 11:24.38 | Corey | well we messed with the weather so now rogues can't use poisons, sorry rogues incoming fix next patch |
| 11:24.49 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 11:25.06 | Pkekyo | sad part is, that's likely to happen :p |
| 11:25.21 | Corgan | "well, the weather system seems to be causing rogues to be seen while in stealth, will be fixed asap" |
| 11:26.00 | Pkekyo | that would be awesome... if you could see the contours of a stealthed rogue as the rain bounced off his body :p |
| 11:26.15 | Corgan | heh |
| 11:27.34 | Pkekyo | you can't say that wouldn't look cool! |
| 11:27.54 | Pkekyo | would have to make cons about the weather for all classes though |
| 11:27.55 | orionshock | .. no give druids vanish first, then work on that effect :P |
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| 11:28.13 | Pkekyo | warriors charging would have a chance to slip and fall on their ass and such |
| 11:29.18 | Pkekyo | haha, that would be AWESOME in arenas! |
| 11:29.32 | Corgan | lol |
| 11:29.45 | abbat_w | ahaha ;) |
| 11:29.50 | Pkekyo | it'd be like a charlie chaplin movie :D |
| 11:29.59 | Pkekyo | his name was charlie, wasn't it? |
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| 11:30.59 | Pkekyo | meh, now I confused myself :< |
| 11:31.15 | abbat_w | charlie ;) |
| 11:31.24 | Pkekyo | yay |
| 11:31.35 | Pkekyo | I wins at names |
| 11:31.44 | Pkekyo | ~seen raydenuni |
| 11:31.46 | purl | raydenuni <n=bozartmp@129.21.38.220> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 59m 13s ago, saying: 'offensive/defensive etc'. |
| 11:32.36 | Pkekyo | meh |
| 11:34.47 | Pkekyo | I don't know what 'noogies' is, but it sounds too kinky for my liking :< |
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| 11:36.44 | Punkie` | its when you make a fist with your hand |
| 11:36.52 | Punkie` | and then scratch it on someones head |
| 11:37.23 | Pkekyo | o.O |
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| 11:38.27 | Punkie` | you dont know it? :o |
| 11:38.46 | Punkie` | try it on yourself :D |
| 11:39.18 | Pkekyo | no, I know the phenomena |
| 11:39.36 | Corgan | I hate having only PvE gear |
| 11:39.37 | Corgan | :\ |
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| 11:39.55 | Corgan | but I hate the pvp moonkin gear |
| 11:40.10 | Pkekyo | GEIF FLUFFY BOOMKINS OF IMPENDING DOOM<3 |
| 11:40.41 | orionshock_ | oh no... guildie gona waste [Quel'Serrar] on a pally |
| 11:40.58 | abbat_w | ahaha |
| 11:41.00 | Pkekyo | orionshock: you on Bloodfeather EU? |
| 11:41.08 | abbat_w | another old-school weapon ;) |
| 11:41.12 | orionshock_ | no |
| 11:41.17 | Pkekyo | huh |
| 11:41.27 | orionshock_ | [Quel'Serrar] is the 2nd best tanking weapon in the game STILL |
| 11:41.33 | Pkekyo | no it's not |
| 11:41.40 | abbat_w | Quel'Serrar was best tank weapon exclude TF in old times? |
| 11:41.45 | Pkekyo | it's the 2nd best pre-tbc tanking weapon still in the game |
| 11:41.50 | Pkekyo | abbat_w: correctemundo |
| 11:41.59 | orionshock_ | TF / QS then that one from Keeps of Time |
| 11:42.03 | Pkekyo | some tosser on my server've been trying to sell the QS book for 2-3 days now.. |
| 11:42.19 | Pkekyo | orionshock: how'd you figure? |
| 11:42.40 | orionshock_ | TF is still to date the best tanking weapon avaiable |
| 11:42.52 | orionshock_ | nothing has viably replaced it |
| 11:43.18 | orionshock_ | QS comes second, again because of the proc |
| 11:43.19 | JoshBorke | i think some will argue with you on that, i don't remember the details, but they seemed to be rather convincing |
| 11:43.25 | Pkekyo | weird tanks only use it in certain places then... |
| 11:43.52 | abbat_w | I remember what our MT buy QS book at AH :) |
| 11:43.56 | Pkekyo | orionshock: at lvl 70 that procc is a joke for any well-geared tank |
| 11:44.06 | abbat_w | It was cost about 1k5 gold |
| 11:44.12 | abbat_w | insane price ;) |
| 11:44.13 | Pkekyo | s/well-/decently-/ |
| 11:44.24 | orionshock_ | the QS proc - |
| 11:44.28 | Pkekyo | abbat_w: 2-2.5k at my level |
| 11:44.30 | orionshock_ | ya.. not the best true |
| 11:45.00 | abbat_w | Pkekyo, we also buy slot in onixia raid for him for quest ;) |
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| 11:46.37 | Gregory- | tanks need not only mitigation but also threat and rage for that. tf and qs fail in that department compared with current tanking weaps |
| 11:46.56 | Pkekyo | 20 defense? minor mitigation...imo, that is outdone a million times by the 120 agi from mongoose...armor from mongoose comes close to the QS procc as well... |
| 11:46.56 | Pkekyo | when you couple that with a much better weapon, there's no doubt in my mind QS has become rather shitty indeed, if not for the sentimental value of it... |
| 11:48.45 | JoshBorke | zomg orange! |
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| 11:49.31 | orionshock_ | was told a story once about TF & the Nef fight |
| 11:50.00 | orionshock_ | ... warrior steps up wtih TF, during the drakanoid phase, and begins cleaving ..... |
| 11:50.23 | JoshBorke | warrior goes poof |
| 11:50.24 | orionshock_ | TF procs on all 15~ or so of them .... and the raid begins to AoE, |
| 11:50.53 | orionshock_ | warrior dosn't loose aggro run out of rage.. |
| 11:51.14 | JoshBorke | you're missing some key information between aggro and run |
| 11:51.37 | orionshock_ | well that was just the jist of it |
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| 12:00.54 | Pkekyo | is bioshock as good as people say it is? |
| 12:01.27 | phyber | yes. |
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| 12:01.54 | Pkekyo | imba *install* |
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| 12:02.10 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r48364 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:02.10 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:02.10 | CIA-22 | - v4.01.03 French and German updates |
| 12:02.26 | phyber | frozen wrench + getting zerged = hitting things with a frozen wrench |
| 12:02.56 | JoshBorke | that sounds, um, awesome? |
| 12:03.13 | Pkekyo | lol |
| 12:03.35 | Pkekyo | phyber: if you care at all about making sense, an elaboration would be good ;> |
| 12:04.22 | phyber | I got a combat tonic which lets me freeze the wrench, so when I hit thince they have a chance to freeze and shatter. it's just for a little fun :) |
| 12:04.46 | phyber | melee is fun ;) |
| 12:05.46 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48365 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceHook-3.0 - Basic rehash of AceHook-2.1 with some code duplication removed. Needs a lot of scrutiny |
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| 12:08.46 | Pkekyo | phyber: you talking about bioshock or something else? :) |
| 12:09.21 | phyber | Bioshock. |
| 12:09.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan does your addon support gems in items? :P |
| 12:09.48 | phyber | I think I'm about half-way through the game, haven't been rushing through it. |
| 12:10.32 | Pkekyo | I'm still struggling with the install :< |
| 12:10.52 | Pkekyo | stupid game needs a specific DX9c version :< |
| 12:10.59 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 12:11.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo |
| 12:11.18 | sag_ich_nicht | dxwebsetup.exe |
| 12:11.19 | sag_ich_nicht | get it |
| 12:11.20 | sag_ich_nicht | run it |
| 12:11.24 | sag_ich_nicht | works |
| 12:11.40 | Pkekyo | nah, found the correct version in the bioshock dir :) |
| 12:11.52 | phyber | should be on the CD, there's a directory with tons f DX stuff on there. |
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| 12:12.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo you should still use dxwebsetup.exe |
| 12:13.02 | sag_ich_nicht | which reminds me i don't have the SDK update from august yet |
| 12:13.05 | Pkekyo | phyber: cd? *rolleyes* |
| 12:14.09 | sag_ich_nicht | http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/7/1/1718ccc4-6315-4d8e-9543-8e28a4e18c4c/dxwebsetup.exe |
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| 12:14.23 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: what's the purpose of the websetup? |
| 12:14.26 | phyber | Pkekyo: CD/DVD, it's all the same ;) |
| 12:14.39 | Pkekyo | phyber: dvd? *rolleyes* |
| 12:14.48 | phyber | Steam? |
| 12:14.53 | Pkekyo | *cough* |
| 12:14.54 | phyber | elite haxor warez image? |
| 12:15.11 | Pkekyo | actually, just a rar'ed folder |
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| 12:15.38 | Pkekyo | gonna go buy it if I find it worth it...stopped buying games untested a loooong time ago |
| 12:15.47 | Pkekyo | same with movies tbh |
| 12:15.56 | Pkekyo | 90% of my collection was downloaded before I bought them |
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| 12:15.58 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:14] <Pkekyo> sag_ich_nicht: what's the purpose of the websetup? <--it downloads all the SDK updates, for every month |
| 12:15.58 | Nickenyfiken | You test movies? |
| 12:16.13 | Nickenyfiken | I see them once usually |
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| 12:16.23 | Pkekyo | Nickenyfiken: test? I watch movies, if I really like it, I order the DVD :) |
| 12:16.25 | sag_ich_nicht | so you can just rerun it at the beginning of the month and get the latest SDK updates, which is what bioshock wants |
| 12:16.30 | Nickenyfiken | And if i wan't to see them again sometime i just redownload :-P |
| 12:16.43 | Nickenyfiken | Why buy a movie when you have seen it? |
| 12:16.46 | abbat_w | pff... |
| 12:16.50 | Nickenyfiken | :-P |
| 12:16.51 | sag_ich_nicht | these also fix some directx specific bugs some of the time :P |
| 12:16.52 | Pkekyo | I take pride in my DVD collection... |
| 12:16.52 | abbat_w | never buy any software |
| 12:16.56 | abbat_w | games or other |
| 12:17.06 | abbat_w | ah, no |
| 12:17.08 | abbat_w | WoW! |
| 12:17.09 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah movie collectors |
| 12:17.23 | sag_ich_nicht | what the fuck |
| 12:17.24 | Nickenyfiken | I have 2 VHS and 3 DVD movies i think :-) |
| 12:17.27 | Pkekyo | if I really like a movie, I buy it because I feel it deserves a spot in my collection... |
| 12:17.27 | sag_ich_nicht | microsoft redesigned their website |
| 12:17.29 | sag_ich_nicht | AGAIN |
| 12:17.34 | abbat_w | and i don't like tv |
| 12:17.36 | sag_ich_nicht | they did this already 2 months ago jesus christ |
| 12:17.42 | Pkekyo | I have 100+ DVDs ordered within the last two years |
| 12:17.50 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: they're microsoft...they can't help it ;> |
| 12:18.14 | Pkekyo | phyber: how's bioshock when it comes to running with webbrowser, msn and such loaded? |
| 12:18.29 | Nickenyfiken | It's faster! |
| 12:18.30 | Pkekyo | ie: alt+tabbing posibilities etc |
| 12:18.40 | Nickenyfiken | Mozilla boost your DX games |
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| 12:18.50 | Pkekyo | too bad I don't use mozilla then |
| 12:18.53 | phyber | Pkekyo: it's fine for me. |
| 12:18.55 | Nickenyfiken | :-P |
| 12:19.02 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en if you don't want my direct link to it |
| 12:19.06 | phyber | I have dual monitor, keep the webbrowser and stuff up on that while in-game. |
| 12:19.13 | Pkekyo | phyber: so doesn't go through hours of screen flickering and such when alt+tabbing? |
| 12:19.15 | sag_ich_nicht | (but then enjoy your WGA validation BS when trying to get the download :P) |
| 12:19.31 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: won't happen then :p |
| 12:19.37 | phyber | Pkekyo: nope, but I think that would depend on how much ram you have. |
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| 12:19.53 | Pkekyo | running 2GB and 0.5GB vram |
| 12:19.58 | phyber | I have 2GB, and it's fine. |
| 12:20.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo: then just use my direct link |
| 12:20.06 | sag_ich_nicht | http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/7/1/1718ccc4-6315-4d8e-9543-8e28a4e18c4c/dxwebsetup.exe |
| 12:20.09 | sag_ich_nicht | installer works fine |
| 12:20.10 | phyber | 2GB RAM, X1950XTX, everything at full detail. |
| 12:20.12 | Pkekyo | cheers, gonna give it a go :) |
| 12:20.14 | sag_ich_nicht | just the download that asks for WGA :P |
| 12:20.26 | Pkekyo | <--- x1650 XT |
| 12:20.36 | Nickenyfiken | X850XT :-( |
| 12:21.01 | Pkekyo | :P |
| 12:21.22 | Pkekyo | sorry, just had to |
| 12:21.42 | Nickenyfiken | New AMD/ATI driver for Linux next week ^^ |
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| 12:21.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 761/2048MB (37.16%) RAM free. |
| 12:21.50 | sag_ich_nicht | It has an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, SB Live! 24-bit, and 677.53 GB of 1294.81 GB available on 2 drive(s). |
| 12:21.55 | sag_ich_nicht | can we end this e penis contest now? |
| 12:21.57 | sag_ich_nicht | thank you. |
| 12:22.27 | Pkekyo | I haven't installed anything but the default drivers since I upgraded my hardware :) |
| 12:22.32 | sica | 8=====================================================================================================================o |
| 12:22.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo |
| 12:22.35 | sag_ich_nicht | die. |
| 12:22.37 | ramoz | 1680x1050 loooow |
| 12:22.43 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: whyes? :< |
| 12:22.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ramoz widescreen not dual screen |
| 12:22.52 | ramoz | i know |
| 12:22.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo because default drivers=teh evil |
| 12:22.57 | ramoz | true men rin 1920x1600 |
| 12:23.02 | ramoz | or wait |
| 12:23.03 | ramoz | not |
| 12:23.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ramoz not the native resolution |
| 12:23.09 | ramoz | 1200 |
| 12:23.17 | sag_ich_nicht | and anthing bigger than a 22" screen doesn't fit on my desk |
| 12:23.20 | ramoz | l2get24inch |
| 12:23.28 | sag_ich_nicht | (well, a 24" might, but not really) |
| 12:24.06 | sica | real men run 1920x1080 on a 50" LCD |
| 12:24.32 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: the default drivers are awesome....haven't had a single issue with them...unlike the upgraded ones I used to run before my last hardware upgrade :) |
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| 12:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 12:27.41 | sag_ich_nicht | sica real men use a HDR display. |
| 12:30.37 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r48366 10DrDamage/Data/ (9 files): |
| 12:30.37 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 12:30.37 | CIA-22 | - Added all important t6 set bonuses |
| 12:30.37 | CIA-22 | - Modified consecration coefficient |
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| 12:30.58 | Nickenyfiken | Real men don't brag :-P |
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| 12:31.13 | Pkekyo | just started bioshock...has the lovliest film noir feel to it! |
| 12:31.23 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48367 10Ace3/ (Ace3.toc AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua): Ace3 - add AceHook-3.0 to the .toc |
| 12:31.33 | Pkekyo | phyber: when you survive the plane crash at the very beginning...where to go? |
| 12:32.10 | ramoz | isnt it like only one place to swim? |
| 12:32.26 | abbat_w | guys |
| 12:32.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian i see you fixed that |
| 12:32.44 | abbat_w | if i call function with construction like function({ x = 1, y = 2}) |
| 12:32.54 | sag_ich_nicht | now correct the average SoC damage, it's wrong |
| 12:33.04 | Gagorian | Lies |
| 12:33.10 | Gagorian | :D |
| 12:33.16 | phyber | Pkekyo: the big lit up tower ;) |
| 12:33.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no lies |
| 12:33.18 | sag_ich_nicht | facts |
| 12:33.20 | abbat_w | into function i got reference to table |
| 12:33.23 | sag_ich_nicht | hold for screenshot |
| 12:33.31 | abbat_w | ? |
| 12:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit, can't find one now |
| 12:34.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll give you one later Gagorian :P |
| 12:34.14 | Gagorian | Well just tell me what you think is wrong |
| 12:34.20 | Gagorian | Don't need a screenshot probably :P |
| 12:34.24 | Nickenyfiken | abbat_w: yes you get the table into the function as the first argument |
| 12:34.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i think it's too high, but i can't pinpoint it, maybe i'm wrong >.> |
| 12:34.46 | sag_ich_nicht | but consecrate was really wrong, i knew that, because it wasn't ticking for the given value at all |
| 12:34.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 12:35.01 | abbat_w | Nickenyfiken, and if i drop reference, this table should be gced? |
| 12:35.02 | Gagorian | myes, nobody had told me! |
| 12:35.11 | Gagorian | I can't know it's wrong then :) |
| 12:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i was too lazy and/or you were afk |
| 12:35.35 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 12:35.39 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. lazy |
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| 12:36.05 | sag_ich_nicht | (i know that you know that i know that you know that i am kidding, Antiarc) |
| 12:36.09 | Nickenyfiken | abbat_w: guess so |
| 12:36.19 | Gagorian | SoC is physical though so you'd need low armor mobs to test on? |
| 12:37.11 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 12:37.15 | sag_ich_nicht | SoC isn't physical |
| 12:37.16 | sag_ich_nicht | at all |
| 12:37.39 | sag_ich_nicht | SoC is holy damage, 70% of mean weapon damage |
| 12:37.56 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe that's what's wrong with it? :P |
| 12:38.03 | ramoz | Seed of Corruption? |
| 12:38.10 | sag_ich_nicht | not seed of corruption |
| 12:38.16 | sag_ich_nicht | seal of command :P |
| 12:38.27 | ramoz | oh |
| 12:38.37 | ramoz | stupid pala shit |
| 12:38.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Gives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. |
| 12:38.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Casting Judgement of Command will instantly cause Holy damage, more if the target is stunned or incapacitated. |
| 12:38.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Rank 6 normal Judgement Damage: 228-252 |
| 12:38.58 | sag_ich_nicht | When Stunned: 456-504 |
| 12:39.10 | sag_ich_nicht | this is without spell damage coeffs |
| 12:41.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian you know that SoC does NOT fall into weapon speed normalisation, righto? :P |
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| 12:44.10 | Gagorian | Yes yes :D |
| 12:44.30 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 12:44.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i see what you mean |
| 12:44.38 | sag_ich_nicht | physical as in special hit |
| 12:44.45 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, it's physical but not melee >.> |
| 12:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | bad Gagorian |
| 12:44.52 | sag_ich_nicht | confusing me |
| 12:44.53 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
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| 12:47.03 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah need low armor to test |
| 12:47.04 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 12:47.07 | sag_ich_nicht | gimme a mage |
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| 12:47.23 | sag_ich_nicht | or a lvl 1 priest or something |
| 12:47.23 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
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| 12:54.18 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r48368 10DrDamage/Data/Paladin.lua: |
| 12:54.18 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 12:54.18 | CIA-22 | - Fixed error in SoC calculation |
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| 12:56.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian admit it, you didn't change anything, you just did it so i shut up |
| 12:56.46 | Gagorian | *whistles* |
| 12:56.57 | sag_ich_nicht | (or tell me what was wrong) |
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| 12:59.55 | mitch0 | sag: svn diff? :) |
| 13:00.22 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r48369 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 13:01.39 | Gagorian | There was actually two flaws, +10 spell damage calculation was wrong and also it seems it was being normalized |
| 13:01.41 | Gagorian | :f |
| 13:01.47 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 13:02.27 | sag_ich_nicht | well, the SoC spell coeff is 20% |
| 13:02.42 | sag_ich_nicht | for the judgement it's 42.86% |
| 13:03.50 | sag_ich_nicht | you got that right Gagorian? :P |
| 13:04.06 | Gagorian | No cause it seems to get 29% from holy damage |
| 13:04.10 | Gagorian | and 20% from normal |
| 13:04.11 | sag_ich_nicht | wth? |
| 13:04.16 | Gagorian | yes it's crack |
| 13:04.24 | sag_ich_nicht | that's crazy. |
| 13:04.40 | Gagorian | Yes it makes no sense :D |
| 13:04.44 | Gagorian | That's what I've read |
| 13:04.46 | sag_ich_nicht | plz2report |
| 13:04.53 | sag_ich_nicht | or question or something |
| 13:05.45 | sag_ich_nicht | grrr |
| 13:05.48 | sag_ich_nicht | files update is lagging |
| 13:05.49 | sag_ich_nicht | again |
| 13:06.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:59] <mitch0> sag: svn diff? :) <--too lazy |
| 13:07.00 | sag_ich_nicht | weapon speed normalisation being applied probably explains the strange values |
| 13:07.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll find out when files updates >< |
| 13:08.25 | sag_ich_nicht | there we go |
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| 13:09.15 | abbat_w | guys, it is possible in perl to make 'default' values for function. for example $a = shift || 1. If @args empty, $a have '1' value, if not, then $args[0] |
| 13:09.28 | abbat_w | how i can do the same in lua? |
| 13:09.48 | abbat_w | Or maybe php-style way function(param1=defvalue, param2=defvalue) |
| 13:10.16 | abbat_w | ah, first case can be done with param = param or 1 |
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| 13:15.28 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: not if your param value can be false / nil |
| 13:15.47 | [Ammo] | then your param = param or 1 will always be 1 even if you explicitly pass false / nil |
| 13:15.54 | abbat_w | yep, see this ;( |
| 13:16.19 | abbat_w | so, this is not a lua-style then |
| 13:19.34 | abbat_w | oh, function can be called with notation like 'function{key1=val1, key2=val2}' |
| 13:21.46 | abbat_w | lol ;) |
| 13:22.04 | abbat_w | i do login to ftp site and think can i found something about lua |
| 13:22.10 | abbat_w | i do 'site dupe lua' |
| 13:22.20 | abbat_w | first string from result: 200-[20070704 2 F 0.000000 kb] (Folder) /0day/200705/0515/mods/PitBull/Aura/ |
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| 13:24.44 | abbat_w | possible site owner play in wow ;) |
| 13:25.20 | b00gy | hi there, i've just written a small addon using ace. i remeber comming across a page in the wiki, how to add it to the WAU, but i can't find it anymore....could you point me the right direction? |
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| 13:28.03 | Nickenyfiken | Ehm why is a WoW addon on a 0-day site? |
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| 13:28.28 | abbat_w | don't know |
| 13:28.28 | Nickenyfiken | b00gy: you need a SVN account and commit it there. |
| 13:28.35 | abbat_w | owner play in wow i think |
| 13:28.43 | abbat_w | send msg to him ;) |
| 13:29.37 | CrazyBenny | b00gy: http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners |
| 13:29.49 | b00gy | Nickenyfiken how do it get it? is there a forum i can sign up for it or something like taht? |
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| 13:30.14 | Nickenyfiken | Look one line above ^^ |
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| 13:31.23 | b00gy | oik thanks, overlooked the getting account on that page :P been there often enough last days XD |
| 13:31.31 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 13:31.38 | sag_ich_nicht | stupid disconnects D: |
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| 13:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah that looks better Gagorian |
| 13:37.05 | sag_ich_nicht | especially when i change to 1h weapon the value is now waaaaaaay more accurate |
| 13:37.28 | sag_ich_nicht | also, looks like you are missing SoR calcs completely |
| 13:37.43 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i liek j00 [Ammo] |
| 13:37.45 | `-FISKER_Q\ | do you liek me? |
| 13:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:37.52 | sag_ich_nicht | hello fisker |
| 13:37.53 | sag_ich_nicht | you nub |
| 13:38.01 | `-FISKER_Q\ | :(? |
| 13:38.06 | abbat_w | =) |
| 13:38.07 | abbat_w | yep |
| 13:38.10 | `-FISKER_Q\ | oh hi abbat_w |
| 13:38.16 | abbat_w | and ammo miss you, Fisker ;) |
| 13:38.20 | `-FISKER_Q\ | yay |
| 13:38.34 | sag_ich_nicht | also, how are you calcing the crit for SoC? it seems wrong, Gagorian |
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| 13:39.16 | sag_ich_nicht | my melee crit is 22.99% but i see 27.99% crit for SoC, from where you getting that? |
| 13:39.45 | abbat_w | you are retro paladin? |
| 13:40.07 | sag_ich_nicht | *retribution, yes. |
| 13:40.17 | TNSe | Gagorian, I was noticing weird values on my pally too |
| 13:40.24 | `-FISKER_Q\ | isn't SoC both melee and spell crit? |
| 13:40.28 | TNSe | seals = melee crit |
| 13:40.38 | sag_ich_nicht | `-FISKER_Q\ rong |
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| 13:40.40 | TNSe | if they only were both |
| 13:40.44 | sag_ich_nicht | only melee crit |
| 13:40.47 | TNSe | then class might not have been as broken |
| 13:41.13 | `-FISKER_Q\ | <3 |
| 13:41.21 | `-FISKER_Q\ | my character can't almost be more pink |
| 13:41.27 | `-FISKER_Q\ | only need the shield from mag today |
| 13:42.03 | `-FISKER_Q\ | also got a Purple(Pink) Nether Ray to match |
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| 13:42.09 | `-FISKER_Q\ | http://i17.tinypic.com/6auj4ew.jpg |
| 13:42.13 | sag_ich_nicht | i could upgrade my tank and my healequip quite a bit |
| 13:42.14 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 13:42.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i lack the gold for it |
| 13:42.22 | sag_ich_nicht | (sha'tar exalted etc.) |
| 13:42.29 | Mecdemort | hmm what's a good highly configurable HUD? |
| 13:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | huds suck. |
| 13:42.48 | `-FISKER_Q\ | HUDs in airplanes are pretty configurable |
| 13:42.51 | Hjalte | mecdemort, i liked icehud, when using a hud. |
| 13:42.54 | Chompers | good for rougues, i hear |
| 13:42.59 | Saladin | Okay, I can't make my water elemental's Freeze show up on CDT2 for some reason. Ideas? |
| 13:42.59 | Chompers | *rogues |
| 13:43.09 | Saladin | I can't find the spell on the sill list for PetCooldowns |
| 13:47.10 | Nickenyfiken | how many tps is good for a tank? |
| 13:47.21 | [Ammo] | more than the dps produce |
| 13:47.36 | [Ammo] | it's all relative |
| 13:47.48 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah but i need a number right now and I'm at work |
| 13:47.53 | [Ammo] | euhm |
| 13:47.54 | Nickenyfiken | A decent Kara tanke for example |
| 13:48.01 | charon | 800-1000ish? |
| 13:48.04 | [Ammo] | no clue around 1k |
| 13:48.05 | charon | depends a lot on the encounter |
| 13:48.05 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:48.15 | charon | i've yet to see >1200 by anything other than crit luck though |
| 13:48.26 | Nickenyfiken | ok thanks |
| 13:49.39 | charon | anyone know what the recount graphs plot? say e.g. for damage, does a 2000 spike mean 2000 damage taken over the _past second_? |
| 13:50.20 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm how do i show graphs with Recount? |
| 13:50.24 | Nickenyfiken | Slash command? |
| 13:50.41 | charon | i always '/recount show' the window, then shift-click someone |
| 13:50.55 | charon | a fubar icon for the show/hide thing would be awesome |
| 13:51.26 | Fisker- | but :( |
| 13:51.36 | Fisker- | i just wanted a hide maintank frames option in oRA2 |
| 13:51.41 | Fisker- | and i was brutally murdered |
| 13:52.07 | [Ammo] | just set nr maintanks to 0 |
| 13:52.20 | Nickenyfiken | "The Shaman is probably the best tank replacement class. They excel in one half of tanking - aggro generation (the other half is damage mitigation). A Shaman can hold aggro better than most proper tanks, using the Frost Shock, high damage attacks and self-heals." |
| 13:52.34 | asmodai | *grin* |
| 13:52.36 | Nickenyfiken | Is this true? |
| 13:52.40 | asmodai | I manage to steal aggro a lot yea |
| 13:52.42 | abbat_w | nope |
| 13:53.08 | Saladin | Okay, I can't make my water elemental's Freeze show up on CDT2 for some reason. Ideas? |
| 13:53.16 | Elfenrir | It's true that shaman generate a lot of threat but I don't know why anyone would think they could tank. |
| 13:53.28 | abbat_w | yep |
| 13:53.49 | abbat_w | I think if shaman try to tank they just die |
| 13:54.10 | abbat_w | but maybe if 1/2 of raid is healers... |
| 13:54.23 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
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| 13:54.27 | kenlyric | Elfenrir: shields |
| 13:54.31 | Fisker- | doh [Ammo] .( |
| 13:54.33 | Nickenyfiken | that information on wowwiki must be pre tbc |
| 13:54.42 | Fisker- | and here i was setting transparency and such to 0.1 |
| 13:54.57 | asmodai | Nickenyfiken: Mmm, perhaps, but I can really capture aggro a lot with my shaman :) |
| 13:55.04 | abbat_w | Fisker, it's time to hack ora2 ;) |
| 13:55.21 | asmodai | and windfury procs and frost shocks really push aggro up a lot as well |
| 13:55.35 | asmodai | But main tank? Doubtful. |
| 13:55.40 | abbat_w | asmodai, what about damage mitigation from boss? |
| 13:55.49 | Elfenrir | Yeah but they don't have any mitigation past maybe having 10k armor. If they tried to tank anything outside of a regular instance it would just be bad. |
| 13:55.57 | kenlyric | people think shields and then think tank. |
| 13:56.12 | asmodai | abbat_w: Well, only after lvl 40 with mail and then only up to a certain level I guess. |
| 13:56.16 | kenlyric | but the shield doesn't nearly make up for mail armor. |
| 13:56.17 | abbat_w | hmmm.. someone try to tank as shaman? :) |
| 13:56.20 | [Ammo] | Nickenyfiken: I think that whole statement was sarcastic |
| 13:56.35 | asmodai | abbat_w: perhaps enhancement specced, but we'd loose out at a certain point. |
| 13:56.38 | kenlyric | everyone knows that shadow priests make the best threat. |
| 13:56.49 | kenlyric | errr, tanks. |
| 13:56.54 | abbat_w | why? |
| 13:57.08 | abbat_w | shadow priests doesn't have any talents to reduce aggro? |
| 13:57.10 | kenlyric | have you see the 40 priest onyxia? |
| 13:57.16 | abbat_w | yes ;) |
| 13:57.17 | TNSe | -25% abbat_w |
| 13:57.20 | Elfenrir | ROfl, like that video back in the day of the shadowpriest tanking Onyxia in a 40-man all priest raid. |
| 13:57.40 | abbat_w | i prefer video with druids and onixia ;) |
| 13:57.47 | kenlyric | imagine them doing it now, probably wouldn't take nearly that many. |
| 13:57.49 | kenlyric | druids cheat. |
| 13:57.53 | kenlyric | hybrid fuckers |
| 13:58.02 | [Ammo] | 40 man warlock raid |
| 13:58.02 | abbat_w | hmm... i like druids |
| 13:58.06 | [Ammo] | all felguard spec'd |
| 13:58.10 | [Ammo] | 80 man raid! |
| 13:58.17 | kenlyric | you could afk that. |
| 13:58.35 | TNSe | stand in entrance and /target onyxia |
| 13:58.37 | asmodai | I still think Blizzard is biased to druids and rogues at least (I play all classes, just to clarify) |
| 13:58.38 | TNSe | ctrl-1 |
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| 13:59.08 | Morghus | asmodai: Tried feral druids and rogues in arena? :P |
| 13:59.20 | asmodai | Morghus: Not yet :) |
| 13:59.21 | asmodai | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=17802 |
| 13:59.23 | kenlyric | meh, pvp doesn't count. |
| 13:59.25 | Morghus | You won't like it |
| 13:59.37 | kenlyric | blizzard is partial to *warlocks* |
| 13:59.48 | kenlyric | because they're superior at *everything* |
| 13:59.49 | Morghus | And warriors. And paladins. |
| 13:59.51 | asmodai | ahhh yes |
| 13:59.54 | Morghus | ;) |
| 13:59.56 | asmodai | forgot warlocks too |
| 14:00.00 | asmodai | rogues, druids and warlocks |
| 14:00.06 | kenlyric | have you ever tried to level a paladin? blizzard obviously hates them. |
| 14:00.15 | TNSe | I am levelling my pally alt |
| 14:00.16 | kenlyric | don't forget shadow priests! |
| 14:00.21 | TNSe | my WARRIOR used less bandages |
| 14:00.23 | [Ammo] | I got my pally to 70 last week |
| 14:00.24 | TNSe | than my pally |
| 14:00.28 | TNSe | and I need to drink too. |
| 14:00.28 | kenlyric | essentially, blizzard loves everyone but mages. |
| 14:00.31 | Morghus | Yes. My patience-fu failed me. The fun with paladin starts at 70 |
| 14:00.31 | [Ammo] | holy spec |
| 14:00.37 | asmodai | kenlyric: I quit at lvl 36 last year May with my human paladin after being screwed over a few times :) |
| 14:00.50 | abbat_w | try mage class guys |
| 14:00.54 | abbat_w | most fun class |
| 14:00.57 | Mecdemort | my one attempt at a paladin ended at level 44 with him standing naked in gagdetzan |
| 14:00.59 | Morghus | I have a mage. I like it :) |
| 14:00.59 | asmodai | this was when seal of the crusader never recharged upon a successful hit as well |
| 14:01.02 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Conviction is probably applied twice |
| 14:01.52 | asmodai | Blizzard in general does a decent job, I just wish they'd match class descriptions with reality and not show their bias so much... |
| 14:02.18 | kenlyric | as much as I rail against paladins, I know deep down they deserve to be overpowered for those first 40 levels of torture. |
| 14:02.18 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r48370 10DrDamage/Data/Paladin.lua: |
| 14:02.18 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 14:02.18 | CIA-22 | - Fixed conviction? |
| 14:02.29 | Morghus | You mean with druids? I think they're making up for 2 years of ass-rape :P |
| 14:02.41 | Fisker- | wtf @ new opera |
| 14:02.53 | Morghus | What's with the new Opera? Oo |
| 14:02.53 | Fisker- | perhaps it'll put those Firefox zealots in their place |
| 14:02.56 | asmodai | Fisker-: blazing fast you mean? :) |
| 14:03.03 | kenlyric | druid levelling kinda sucks too, weak-ass rogues until level 36. |
| 14:03.25 | asmodai | kenlyric: I found levelling my rogue using dual-wield and slice 'n dice to be pretty nice overall :) |
| 14:03.30 | Morghus | kenlyric: You're the first one to complain after TBC about druid leveling xD |
| 14:03.53 | Fisker- | I think i might go Opera after 9.5 is out :O |
| 14:03.54 | asmodai | I still don't get how druids can use their professions in changed state though. Try that with ghostwolf... |
| 14:03.57 | kenlyric | wtf is with a combo point-using class that has no finishing move until 36? |
| 14:04.10 | Chompers | DARKSIDED Fisker- |
| 14:04.17 | kenlyric | druid levelling is *safe*, not fast. |
| 14:04.17 | asmodai | Fisker-: Opera is nice yeah :) |
| 14:04.27 | Morghus | Fisker-: Which version are you talking about? |
| 14:04.36 | Elfenrir | I loved leveling my druid. |
| 14:04.45 | abbat_w | I plan to start druid twink |
| 14:04.48 | Elfenrir | The bleeds are fun |
| 14:04.50 | abbat_w | Just like druids |
| 14:05.00 | Pkekyo | phyber: ping? |
| 14:05.07 | phyber | Pkekyo: pong. |
| 14:05.16 | Pkekyo | you know bioshock, no? |
| 14:05.19 | Fisker- | Morghus 9.5 |
| 14:05.25 | Fisker- | it's in Alpha at the moment |
| 14:05.31 | Pkekyo | how can I get more slots for plasmids? |
| 14:05.32 | Morghus | Ooooh, link? =) |
| 14:05.43 | Fisker- | Pkekyo they are upgrades you buy |
| 14:05.47 | Rccsv | Pkekyo, you buy them. |
| 14:05.53 | Pkekyo | how/where? |
| 14:06.11 | asmodai | haha, this shadow priest is tanking and the rest wands and heals away (amidst other spells) |
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| 14:06.55 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Yeah SoR is fucked up. Can't get a proper formula for it |
| 14:07.13 | Pkekyo | I can't figure out how/where to buy them |
| 14:07.19 | Mikk | asmodai: i gotta ask... what realm? |
| 14:07.34 | Mikk | cause i remember playing with a human paladin with one of my toons |
| 14:07.40 | Mikk | named asmodai |
| 14:07.52 | asmodai | Mikk: I was using Ranaghar on Quel'Thalas |
| 14:07.57 | Morghus | Opera 9.5 looks hawt :O |
| 14:08.02 | asmodai | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070905-first-look-opera-9-5-alpha.html |
| 14:08.09 | asmodai | I'm now on hellfire |
| 14:08.13 | Rccsv | Pkekyo, you buy them with ADAM at Gatherer Gardens like all your other plasmids. |
| 14:08.21 | Mikk | asmodai: ah, ok. nvm =) |
| 14:08.30 | Pkekyo | Rccsv: ADAM? |
| 14:08.33 | asmodai | Morghus: <+TMS> asmodai: but the most juicy stuff is left for 10.0 :) |
| 14:08.43 | Morghus | ! |
| 14:08.45 | asmodai | (he works @ Opera) |
| 14:08.53 | Rccsv | Pkekyo, erm. The stuff you get from the Little Sisters? |
| 14:09.03 | Pkekyo | haven't met any of those yet :< |
| 14:09.04 | Morghus | Fisker- works at Opera, or asmodai? :P |
| 14:09.12 | Mikk | now, if the opera irc client could get nick notification somehow |
| 14:09.14 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Mikk |
| 14:09.14 | purl | beats Mikk into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 14:09.16 | Rccsv | Pkekyo.. right, then you're too early into the game to want new Plasmid slots :P |
| 14:09.24 | Mikk | like coloring windows red instead of blue when your nick is mentioned |
| 14:09.32 | Silviu- | Morghus 8.5 ? i only saw 8.23 |
| 14:09.34 | Mikk | then all would be good |
| 14:10.13 | Rccsv | Pkekyo, though, I finished it yesterday having only bought 3-4 more slots and having an excess of 1600 ADAM. Some of the later plasmids are just worthless :D |
| 14:10.15 | Morghus | Silviu-: asmodai just linked : http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070905-first-look-opera-9-5-alpha.html |
| 14:10.21 | Silviu- | Opera 9.23 srry |
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| 14:14.28 | Pkekyo | Rccsv: just had to get rid of incinerate to get telekinesis :< |
| 14:15.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian: the values from wowwiki not correct? |
| 14:15.30 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r48371 10DrDamage/Caster.lua: |
| 14:15.30 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 14:15.30 | CIA-22 | - Modifier table accepts total mana pool modification (if anyone wants to make an item comparison plugin without equipping items) |
| 14:17.25 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: I use the wowhead formula and apparently it's wrong |
| 14:17.26 | Gagorian | :l |
| 14:18.19 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowwiki.com/Seal_of_Righteousness |
| 14:18.23 | sag_ich_nicht | check that then :P |
| 14:19.34 | Gagorian | Not helpful cause I need a general formula for all ranks |
| 14:20.20 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 14:20.23 | Gagorian | I use those spell damage coefficients though |
| 14:20.25 | sag_ich_nicht | you seem to have one for all ranks |
| 14:20.27 | sag_ich_nicht | except rank 9 |
| 14:21.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i just noticed that now when opening the spellbook |
| 14:21.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i thought you hadn't implemented anything for it |
| 14:23.23 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r48372 10DrDamage/Data/Paladin.lua: |
| 14:23.23 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 14:23.23 | CIA-22 | - Fixed error with SoR rank 9 |
| 14:23.37 | Gagorian | Well I think the one I use is a bit messed up |
| 14:23.47 | Gagorian | Rank 9 was a copy paste bug :D |
| 14:24.09 | Gagorian | (rank 8 was overwritten by rank 9 data) |
| 14:24.12 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 14:24.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian DrD is missing the swing speed slowdown from divine shield |
| 14:24.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 14:24.29 | Gagorian | ... :f |
| 14:24.34 | sag_ich_nicht | increases time between attacks by 100% |
| 14:24.45 | Gagorian | Don't bubble then! |
| 14:24.45 | sag_ich_nicht | (fucking SUCKS with a 3.8 swingtimer) |
| 14:24.48 | Fisker- | 50%/0% with sacred duty |
| 14:24.54 | sag_ich_nicht | correct. |
| 14:25.16 | Fisker- | Not that many spec that far in protection for getting better swingtimers on their shield :P |
| 14:25.40 | Gagorian | Why don't people tell me these things (SoR rank 9, SoC etc) |
| 14:26.13 | Gagorian | My highest level paladin is 4. |
| 14:26.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian because you are one of the few devs that actually fix stuff |
| 14:26.37 | sag_ich_nicht | not like mr. KNIGHT over there, who still has jostlelib bugged to no end |
| 14:26.55 | Gagorian | kek, BURN. |
| 14:27.06 | sag_ich_nicht | thus, habit |
| 14:27.25 | sag_ich_nicht | (and i'm not gonna annoy a very specific omen lead dev again by highlighting him about that display bug) |
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| 14:28.47 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: i'll annoy him :d |
| 14:28.57 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 14:29.06 | Josh_Borke | what's the bug? o.o |
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| 14:30.00 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a very rare, hard to reproduce bug in omen that causes your own threat values to not be displayed anymore to yourself(not a bug in threat-1.0, because others still see it) after zoning |
| 14:30.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i already gave him my interface so he can try reproduce it, but he hasn't had the time yet |
| 14:30.34 | Stan__ | sag_ich_nicht: got the bug, too |
| 14:30.39 | Stan__ | 2 days ago |
| 14:30.48 | sag_ich_nicht | did you change anything in your configuration back then? |
| 14:31.01 | Stan__ | dunno. I just reinstalled omen and thread and it was fine again |
| 14:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm, that's not helping it for me |
| 14:31.18 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 14:31.59 | charon | asmodai: i wonder how you can say druids are favoured by blizz... speaking as a feral, there is _one_ weapon for my spec in each of karazhan, SSC and BT: the kara one is good for dps, the SSC one is good for tanking, and the BT one simply sucks because it tries to be good at both. situation with T4 and T5 is similar because of set bonuses, though T6 is fine. name one class/spec that is similarly starved for items. |
| 14:33.28 | Rccsv | Could say Prot Pallies, but that's kinda niche. |
| 14:34.07 | charon | i believe they can make decent use of most warrior stuff, might be wrong though |
| 14:34.49 | sag_ich_nicht | yes and no |
| 14:35.01 | sag_ich_nicht | the problem with prot palas isn't as much the equip but the base hp |
| 14:35.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and hp from skills, for that matter |
| 14:36.07 | sag_ich_nicht | -skills +talents |
| 14:37.41 | abbat_w | !c eu warsong magga |
| 14:37.44 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Magga, Level 70 Orc Warrior (5/5/51). 9834 HP; 6702 Armour; 858 AP; 125.2 Melee DPS; 9.56% melee crit; 38 melee hit; 167 defense; 10.66% dodge; 19.81% block; 15 shadow resist; 48 fire resist;[[ TBR: 1146 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24fs2r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wpz7q ][ Updated: Fri Sep 7 10:49:31 2007 ]] |
| 14:38.36 | blay | !c us azjol-nerub shadowmystic |
| 14:38.38 | ThraeBot | blay: Shadowmystic, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (5/2/54). 11444 HP; 11698 Armour; 953 AP; 133.9 Melee DPS; 8.57% melee crit; 158 defense; 15.47% dodge; 15.34% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1408 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22uqyh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ccb8w ][ Updated: Fri Sep 7 10:50:25 2007 ]] |
| 14:38.49 | abbat_w | it's a t1 ;) |
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| 14:43.55 | Rccsv | !c eu chromaggus kredarr |
| 14:43.58 | ThraeBot | Rccsv: Kredarr, Level 70 Undead Warrior (10/0/51). 14754 HP; 17178 Armour; 834 AP; 148.1 Melee DPS; 9.42% melee crit; 57 melee hit; 279 defense; 18.42% dodge; 23.6% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1819 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29n633 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34wt82 ][ Updated: Fri Sep 7 10:55:44 2007 ]] |
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| 14:56.54 | Mecdemort | is there any significant difference in speed between format and several concatenates? |
| 15:01.10 | cladhaire | depends on a number of factors, but there can be |
| 15:01.23 | cladhaire | i.e. are you implicitly casting from numbers to strings in the concatenate? |
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| 15:01.40 | cladhaire | if that's the case, then a string.format with %d or %f identifiers will be quicker afaik |
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| 15:01.52 | Xinhuan | is implicit casting slower than explicit casting with tostring() ? |
| 15:02.01 | cladhaire | no, its fast iirc |
| 15:03.18 | Shirik|zZz | _________________________________________________ |
| 15:03.19 | Shirik|zZz | 14(0411:2111:5714) 14(1115sag_ich_nicht14) Shirik|zZz insulting me is not a solution |
| 15:03.19 | Shirik|zZz | 14[#wowace14] - 14[07/09/200714] |
| 15:03.19 | Shirik|zZz | ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ |
| 15:03.20 | Shirik|zZz | o.o? |
| 15:03.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|zZz |
| 15:03.33 | sag_ich_nicht | tab completion fucked up back then |
| 15:03.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i meant Shadowed |
| 15:03.37 | sag_ich_nicht | not you |
| 15:03.37 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 15:03.42 | Shirik | I got like 4 pings from that >< |
| 15:03.48 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl oh wow |
| 15:03.51 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 15:03.52 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 15:03.53 | cladhaire | lua> profile(function() for i=1,1e5 local s = string.format("%s %d %d", "string" 12 13) end end) |
| 15:03.53 | cladbot | cladhaire: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "profile(function() for i=1,1e5 local s = string.format("%s %d %..."]:1: 'do' expected near 'local' |
| 15:03.57 | cladhaire | lua> profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local s = string.format("%s %d %d", "string" 12 13) end end) |
| 15:03.58 | cladbot | cladhaire: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local s = string.format("%s %..."]:1: ')' expected near '12' |
| 15:04.03 | sag_ich_nicht | that's great cladhaire. |
| 15:04.04 | cladhaire | lua> profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local s = string.format("%s %d %d", "string",12, 13) end end) |
| 15:04.04 | cladbot | cladhaire: [string "profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local s =..."]:1: attempt to call global 'profile' (a nil value) |
| 15:04.05 | cladhaire | wow i suck |
| 15:04.11 | cladhaire | lua> SVn.profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local s = string.format("%s %d %d", "string",12, 13) end end) |
| 15:04.11 | cladbot | cladhaire: [string "SVn.profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local..."]:1: attempt to index global 'SVn' (a nil value) |
| 15:04.15 | cladhaire | lua> SV.profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local s = string.format("%s %d %d", "string",12, 13) end end) |
| 15:04.19 | cladbot | cladhaire: 2.1953125, |
| 15:04.36 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire i have heard that admitting that you have a problem is the first step at getting rid of it :P |
| 15:04.37 | Shirik | well most were Shadowed continuing :P |
| 15:04.51 | cladhaire | lua> SV.profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local s = "string" ..12.. 13 end end) |
| 15:04.51 | cladbot | cladhaire: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "SV.profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local s = "string" ..12.. ..."]:1: malformed number near '12..' |
| 15:05.04 | cladhaire | lua> SV.profile(function() for i=1,1e5 do local s = "string" ..12 .. 13; end end) |
| 15:05.09 | cladbot | cladhaire: 2.34375, |
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| 15:05.36 | Xinhuan | repeat for 1e6? |
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| 15:06.32 | cladhaire | 1e6 will be longer than 5 seconds |
| 15:06.40 | cladhaire | by a factor of 10 as a matter of fact :P |
| 15:06.50 | Xinhuan | hmm 2e5 then ;p |
| 15:07.18 | cladhaire | lua> SV.profile(function() for i=1,2e5 do local s = string.format("%s %d %d", "string",12, 13) end end) |
| 15:07.28 | cladbot | cladhaire: 4.4140625, |
| 15:07.32 | cladhaire | lua> SV.profile(function() for i=1,2e5 do local s = "string" ..12 .. 13; end end) |
| 15:07.39 | Hjalte | Has it always been so, that the warlocks pet disappears when you mount? |
| 15:07.42 | cladbot | cladhaire: 4.6953125, |
| 15:07.47 | Xinhuan | yes Hjalte |
| 15:07.51 | Xinhuan | since a few patches ago |
| 15:08.03 | Hjalte | Then the answer is no, Xinhuan ;) |
| 15:08.11 | cladhaire | i dont like that change, by the way for my hunter |
| 15:08.23 | Xinhuan | symantics pffft |
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| 15:08.23 | cladhaire | i used to be able to dismount and FD to get rid of a mob, but now my pet will get aggro |
| 15:08.58 | Hjalte | I don't like it, because it stops my pet from regening health and mana... |
| 15:08.59 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: your code sucks! nyah |
| 15:09.38 | cladhaire | uhh k |
| 15:09.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan |
| 15:10.10 | sag_ich_nicht | does your addon support gems in items? :P |
| 15:10.25 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:10.31 | sag_ich_nicht | good. |
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| 15:11.50 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: <3 |
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| 15:26.21 | Adirelle|Work | cladhaire: which hunter change ? old one or new one ? |
| 15:26.40 | cladhaire | the hunter pets disappearing when you dismount, and coming back |
| 15:26.43 | cladhaire | i liked having to call them |
| 15:28.07 | Adirelle|Work | oh, that old one |
| 15:28.25 | Adirelle|Work | yeah, it really sucks when you aggrod while riding |
| 15:28.32 | cladhaire | yep |
| 15:28.40 | cladhaire | so i just make him stay, and then run away, then mount |
| 15:28.43 | cladhaire | just sucks |
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| 15:28.47 | cladhaire | i have to plan ahead |
| 15:29.25 | Adirelle|Work | plus, you can't take screenshots with your pet AND your mount :D |
| 15:29.46 | cladhaire | ah good call |
| 15:29.57 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r48373 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell_frames.lua: |
| 15:29.57 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 15:29.57 | CIA-22 | - updated default sorting back to A-Z |
| 15:29.57 | CIA-22 | - removed unnecessary onload code |
| 15:29.59 | CIA-22 | - enchant list is now sorted properly when the frame is shown |
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| 15:38.33 | CIA-22 | 03eraslin * r48374 10DKPmon/main.lua: DKPmon: Add prints for when the DKP leader changes. |
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| 15:56.03 | the-golem | oh boo |
| 16:00.21 | kenlyric | actually, when you used to mount, the pet didn't have to be recalled. |
| 16:00.27 | kenlyric | just after a taxi. |
| 16:00.36 | kenlyric | which was nice. |
| 16:01.51 | kenlyric | cladhaire: doing what you do can get expensive, since that costs happiness. |
| 16:02.06 | cladhaire | ? |
| 16:02.09 | kenlyric | getting out of range of your pet is exactly like dismissing him |
| 16:02.17 | cladhaire | really? |
| 16:02.38 | kenlyric | fairly sure. |
| 16:02.47 | kenlyric | I should test it hardcore. |
| 16:03.18 | cladhaire | heh |
| 16:04.28 | kenlyric | I know he's green when he disapears and yellow when he appears a LOT. |
| 16:04.56 | nevcairiel | Oh, thats the sticker i patch on to that bar |
| 16:05.18 | Mecdemort | interesting, .. is significantly faster than format except for numbers |
| 16:05.46 | kenlyric | also, if it didn't cost happiness, there would be no point in having dismiss pet at all. |
| 16:06.03 | kenlyric | or in having dismiss pet cost happiness. |
| 16:06.22 | cladhaire | Mecdemort: because ... avoids the function call, its just the opcode that concatenates the stack |
| 16:07.04 | Mecdemort | i shall pretend i know what that means and move on thusly |
| 16:07.09 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 16:25.21 | asmodai | I still cannot understand why Blizzard doesn't use case sensitive passwords. |
| 16:25.39 | art3mis | asmodai: because 90% of its users are retarded |
| 16:26.16 | [dRaCo] | they dont? |
| 16:26.22 | Xinhuan | ya they don't |
| 16:26.23 | asmodai | [dRaCo]: They don't. |
| 16:26.29 | [dRaCo] | awww. |
| 16:26.29 | Xinhuan | your username isn't case sensitive either |
| 16:26.37 | asmodai | art3mis: Heh, beside THAT obvious point... :) |
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| 16:27.42 | Wobin_ | it... doesn't? |
| 16:27.46 | Wobin_ | wow |
| 16:27.52 | Wobin_ | or WoW |
| 16:28.01 | Tornhoof | they don't use a properly encrypted handshake either afaik |
| 16:28.17 | art3mis | wow |
| 16:28.22 | art3mis | hkui is almost at 100 downloads |
| 16:28.36 | Xinhuan | i think the handshake is encrypted, or there would have been more password losts already |
| 16:28.39 | Xinhuan | than to worms/viruses |
| 16:28.42 | Wobin_ | Essentially, when you hit connect, they're waving a piece of paper with your password at the auth server saying "Hey does this look right to you? It's spelt 1-2-3-4..."? |
| 16:29.08 | Tornhoof | nah it's hashed and stuff, but afaik not properly salted |
| 16:29.09 | asmodai | ROFL |
| 16:29.15 | asmodai | Oh ye gods |
| 16:29.23 | asmodai | This is just begging for exploitation... |
| 16:29.25 | Xinhuan | not salted? |
| 16:29.34 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/merchant.png |
| 16:29.36 | asmodai | But please, shhh, don't tell the Chinese goldfarmers... |
| 16:29.39 | Wobin_ | Needs to be kosher |
| 16:29.47 | art3mis | thats the ew skin for blizz frames for hkui that im working on ;P |
| 16:30.01 | art3mis | new even, although ew fits as well ;) |
| 16:30.17 | Xinhuan | can you actually proof its not salted though? |
| 16:30.23 | Xinhuan | or has anyone proofed it |
| 16:30.52 | Tornhoof | there is some project which reversed the wow protocol |
| 16:30.57 | Tornhoof | (it's xml after all) |
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| 16:31.37 | Xinhuan | so if you change your password every month it should be good enough |
| 16:32.17 | Wobin_ | who can be bothered doing that? =( |
| 16:32.31 | Wobin_ | I'm more likely to type it in here cause I'm misfocused on the window |
| 16:32.56 | Wobin_ | hm, maybe I should make it start with a space so it doesn't get logged =P |
| 16:33.43 | Xinhuan | why wouldn't it get logged if it starts with a space? |
| 16:33.49 | Wobin_ | ~logs |
| 16:33.49 | purl | somebody said logs was apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
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| 16:35.53 | cncfanatics | yooo all |
| 16:37.07 | Xinhuan | it doesn't mean |
| 16:37.15 | Xinhuan | that nobody else isn't logging the channel ;p |
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| 16:38.23 | Tornhoof | xinhuan, https://mangos.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/mangos/trunk/src/realmd/AuthSocket.cpp logonproof is the wow connect, which was made more secure for 2.0 apparently, so my previous statement is not 100% correct, anyway the username is still sent in plaintext |
| 16:38.53 | Chompers | that's bioshock finished |
| 16:38.58 | Chompers | what a great game |
| 16:39.04 | Xinhuan | the username doesn't matter, its already saved in your SAVEDVAR folder |
| 16:39.08 | Xinhuan | in plaintext |
| 16:39.15 | Tornhoof | they use srp6 now |
| 16:39.19 | Xinhuan | only the password patters |
| 16:39.19 | Tornhoof | for password auth |
| 16:39.22 | Xinhuan | matters* |
| 16:39.37 | Xinhuan | wtf/account/username/ |
| 16:39.39 | Tornhoof | if you're already on the client it does not matter anyway |
| 16:39.51 | Tornhoof | the username is interesting for packet loggin |
| 16:39.52 | Tornhoof | g |
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| 16:46.40 | CIA-22 | 03thrae * r48375 10cyCircled_HKitty/ (10 files in 4 dirs): cyCircled_HKitty: Reverting back to original code given to me, because cyCircled and/or Ace is stupid. Someone can add externals if they want, I'm lazy. |
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| 16:49.18 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 16:49.23 | Xinhuan | at that commit |
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| 16:57.59 | haste | I agree with the solution! |
| 16:59.35 | art3mis | laugh thanks thrae |
| 16:59.50 | art3mis | i really should just get an svn account to maintain it |
| 17:00.10 | art3mis | didnt realize it was gonna be such an irritation ;) |
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| 17:03.59 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 17:05.50 | ulic | how many loot items do the early bosses in kara drop? |
| 17:06.02 | Funkeh` | 2 |
| 17:06.04 | Xinhuan | all kara bosses dro 2 epics |
| 17:06.08 | Xinhuan | except prince |
| 17:06.11 | ulic | cool. |
| 17:06.11 | Xinhuan | who drops 3 |
| 17:06.45 | Xinhuan | test my addon please :) http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8317.0 |
| 17:06.54 | yssaril | when are kara bosses gonna start dropping heroic badges? |
| 17:07.02 | Xinhuan | probably never? |
| 17:07.10 | xyu | never |
| 17:07.11 | Xinhuan | heroic badges aren't hard to get |
| 17:07.27 | xyu | not at all |
| 17:08.30 | yssaril | they are if you only have time to code and raid :P |
| 17:08.30 | Rccsv | Wasn't there some hint that Zul'Aman and Karazhan bosses would start dropping them when they add the new items to the Heroic Badge vendor? |
| 17:08.34 | xyu | mech is 5 a day, bot is another 5 but not as commonly run. 3 from mana tombs, i'm not sure how many Slave pens has |
| 17:08.41 | xyu | SP is another commonly run heroic |
| 17:08.54 | Rccsv | SP has 3. |
| 17:08.57 | Xinhuan | cos SP is like a 40 min heroic for 3 badges |
| 17:09.06 | Xinhuan | mech is like 50 min tops for 5 |
| 17:09.20 | Xinhuan | shattered halls is hard - but its 5 badges as well for 1.5 hours |
| 17:09.39 | Xinhuan | but not wiping is really hard lol |
| 17:09.41 | Xinhuan | in SH |
| 17:10.17 | Rccsv | I remember wiping for almost 45 mins on the 7-pull before the first boss in Heroic SH :/ |
| 17:13.13 | yssaril | heroic SH sucks /cry |
| 17:13.56 | Xinhuan | removing TK and SSC attunement was a bad idea. they could have just nerfed the quests |
| 17:14.10 | Xinhuan | like SH timed quest lasting longer duration |
| 17:14.34 | yssaril | serriously i got attuned 2 days before they announce that change |
| 17:15.43 | Xinhuan | so i got my whole guild attuned to TK and 3 days later they announced the change lol |
| 17:16.39 | yssaril | lol |
| 17:16.42 | yssaril | btw http://mmo-games.co.uk/forum/index.php?s=9e9c0d7b5f0d8979d0061b816407175c&showtopic=11624 |
| 17:17.28 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 17:17.33 | Fisker- | indeed Xinhuan |
| 17:18.01 | Xinhuan | oh well, kara isn't hard anyway |
| 17:18.10 | Xinhuan | but if zulaman is going to be a step above in difficulty |
| 17:18.22 | Xinhuan | dunno if droping heroic badges is a good idea for it |
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| 17:20.26 | Nickenyfiken | Why not? |
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| 17:21.08 | Xinhuan | just doesn't feel right something that is more difficult is dropping badges that are for lower tiered bosses/loot |
| 17:21.48 | Thrae | I just sanitized a batch file for syncing World of Warcraft directories between two computers (IE, need only download updates on one, sync your macros, settings, etc.). http://thrae.pastey.net/73551 |
| 17:22.05 | Nickenyfiken | Like they said, to fill the gap for some specs, and you can also buy primal nether |
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| 17:22.23 | yssaril | Xinhuan: true but same goes for heroic dungons the esay once drop the same badges as the hard once |
| 17:22.26 | Nickenyfiken | and stuff like that |
| 17:22.47 | Xinhuan | clearly the "easy heroics" aren't made hard enough |
| 17:22.58 | Xinhuan | like mech |
| 17:23.09 | Xinhuan | and the "hard heroics" aren't made easy enough (like SH) |
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| 17:25.01 | Xinhuan | also, i have 342 heroic badges in my bank and 19 nethers :) |
| 17:25.07 | yssaril | Xinhuan: totaly agree but for now i think there would be an outcry if they made heroic mech harder :P |
| 17:25.23 | Xinhuan | and i also haven't done a single heroic since May |
| 17:25.37 | Nickenyfiken | Xinhuan: hehe you must be crazy :-P |
| 17:25.52 | Xinhuan | oh ok i did one heroic since May - it was to get Steady gem from ramparts |
| 17:27.36 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r48376 10IRQ/IRQ.lua: |
| 17:27.36 | CIA-22 | IRQ: |
| 17:27.36 | CIA-22 | - Execute :SetupFrames() in :OnEnable() so that the positioning is correct on login. |
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| 17:30.05 | RaydenUnicyclist | so i'm using a widescreen monitor and my tailoring window text is all "..." |
| 17:30.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | someone said to set clearfont to 96% and something else |
| 17:30.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | i forget that something else |
| 17:31.01 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/tailoring_bug.jpg |
| 17:31.20 | Xinhuan | disable clearfont? |
| 17:31.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | it wasn't disable it |
| 17:31.35 | Kirkburn | Change your UI scale, or change the font scale |
| 17:31.51 | Kirkburn | ClearFont has a website ... |
| 17:32.06 | Kirkburn | http://www.clearfont.co.uk/readme.html#KnownIssues |
| 17:32.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | <kaiden>set your font scale to 96% |
| 17:32.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | no i guess that's all he said to do |
| 17:32.20 | Xinhuan | try setting it smaller |
| 17:32.28 | Xinhuan | like 80% |
| 17:32.54 | Xinhuan | 96% could be based on his UIScale or resolution |
| 17:33.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | huh |
| 17:33.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | well it specifically says 1680x1050 which is what i have |
| 17:33.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | i turned on UI scaling and it fied it |
| 17:33.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | fixed |
| 17:33.26 | RaydenUnicyclist | hmm |
| 17:33.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | that moves thing all around |
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| 17:35.38 | RaydenUnicyclist | pretty much any UI scale other than default fixes it |
| 17:35.39 | RaydenUnicyclist | odd |
| 17:35.45 | RaydenUnicyclist | setting font % with CF didn't do anything |
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| 17:36.33 | Xinhuan | other than default means what? |
| 17:38.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | if scale UI is off it doesn't work |
| 17:38.13 | RaydenUnicyclist | and if i try to turn it on and make it match to what it is when its off, it also doesn't work |
| 17:39.16 | Kirkburn | Yes, the bug only appears at the default UI scale on 1680x1050 |
| 17:39.23 | Kirkburn | Annoying, I know |
| 17:39.29 | JoshBorke | ~lart Kirkburn |
| 17:39.29 | purl | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Kirkburn!" and lops off Kirkburn's head |
| 17:40.23 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 17:42.27 | |TheKarn| | ~lart purl |
| 17:42.28 | purl | pours gasoline all over |thekarn|, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 17:42.34 | |TheKarn| | aww |
| 17:42.45 | |TheKarn| | lart purl |
| 17:42.48 | |TheKarn| | ~lart purl |
| 17:42.48 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of purl |
| 17:42.53 | |TheKarn| | yeah |
| 17:43.04 | |TheKarn| | i have the power to lart purl |
| 17:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | or at least the power to use a trailing space? |
| 17:44.55 | Megalon | may char 160 be with you! |
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| 17:45.54 | Xinhuan | ~~~~ |
| 17:45.54 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT xinhuan!!! |
| 17:46.14 | Xinhuan | ~~~ |
| 17:46.15 | purl | I HATE YOU, xinhuan!!! |
| 17:47.06 | Xinhuan | ~~ |
| 17:47.07 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 17:47.27 | Xinhuan | ~ |
| 17:47.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ~~~~~ |
| 17:47.35 | purl | grrrr |
| 17:47.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ~~~~~~ |
| 17:47.41 | purl | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots nighthawkthesane in the head three times. |
| 17:48.10 | Xinhuan | ~~~~~~~ |
| 17:48.10 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat xinhuan. |
| 17:48.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ~~~~~~~~ |
| 17:48.21 | purl | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
| 17:48.37 | Xinhuan | ~~~~~~~~~ |
| 17:48.38 | purl | I'm ignoring you now. |
| 17:48.58 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 17:50.22 | yssaril | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 17:56.23 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, u got owned by purl :) |
| 18:00.03 | Antiarc | The Justice Department on Thurs said Internet service providers should be allowed to charge a fee for priority Web traffic.The agency told the Federal Communications Commission, which is reviewing high-speed Internet practices, that it is opposed to "Net neutrality," the principle that all Internet sites should be equally accessible to any Web user |
| 18:00.06 | Antiarc | gg, folks |
| 18:01.43 | |TheKarn| | any realtime applications are priority so gaming online will be a premium |
| 18:02.05 | Antiarc | You want to torrent? You get to pay $190/month |
| 18:02.10 | Antiarc | gg WoW patches. |
| 18:02.40 | |TheKarn| | i'd assume thats only us based |
| 18:02.42 | |TheKarn| | lol at you |
| 18:02.47 | Xinhuan | torrents are considered real time applications? |
| 18:02.48 | Antiarc | Well |
| 18:02.54 | Antiarc | AT&T owns backbones |
| 18:03.12 | Antiarc | And there are a phenominal number of sites US-side off those backbones |
| 18:03.26 | Punkie` | Antiarc: Large "foreign" ISPs will have that "priority" anyway |
| 18:03.28 | Antiarc | So I wouldn't be surprised to see them jack up carrier rates that have to be passed on to the consumer |
| 18:03.55 | Punkie` | but it's going to be up for discussion in each country as the above is up for discussion in the US |
| 18:04.09 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host86-140-201-197.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:04.33 | Cartas | Hi old chaps! |
| 18:04.41 | Punkie` | plus, I would imagine that most large ISP's are under contract, so they wouldn't be able to jack up the prices during that period anyway |
| 18:04.44 | Xinhuan | this wouldn't even be an issue if bandwidth isn't a scarce resource |
| 18:04.51 | Cartas | Any macro wizards around, perchance? |
| 18:04.56 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48377 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 18:04.56 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:04.56 | CIA-22 | - Wish granted, added the Low level WSG items. |
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| 18:05.12 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48378 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/BattlegroundPvP.en.lua: |
| 18:05.12 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 18:05.12 | CIA-22 | - Added the low level WSG items |
| 18:05.25 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48379 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 18:05.25 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 18:05.25 | CIA-22 | - small reorder |
| 18:06.28 | charon | Antiarc! :) |
| 18:06.32 | charon | got my messages a few days ago? |
| 18:07.39 | Cartas | Is there any such macro that would do something like... PutCursorItemIntoInventorySlot(4,1)? |
| 18:08.19 | Xinhuan | what are you trying to achieve cartas? |
| 18:08.27 | Cartas | I want my bags to be organised when I switch weapons! |
| 18:08.34 | Cartas | I hate how it defaults to some random free slot, grr... |
| 18:08.38 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r48380 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/BattlegroundPvP.en.lua: |
| 18:08.38 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 18:08.38 | CIA-22 | - Small fix |
| 18:09.03 | Xinhuan | pretty hard to do with the 255 char limit in a macro |
| 18:09.10 | cncfanatics | meh, back |
| 18:09.36 | Cartas | You think? |
| 18:09.36 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:09.40 | ckknight | g'morning |
| 18:09.41 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 18:09.43 | Cartas | I'm sure I've had it done before... |
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| 18:09.53 | Cartas | Where I can switch from a shield and 1h to a 2h and have my 1h and shield together... |
| 18:09.54 | |TheKarn| | evenin ckk |
| 18:09.59 | Cartas | Always in slots 4,1 and 4,2. |
| 18:10.17 | Xinhuan | oh its possible, just messy |
| 18:10.38 | |TheKarn| | Cartas: you could just write a function to do it? |
| 18:10.43 | Cartas | I could? |
| 18:10.52 | |TheKarn| | if you're out of combat |
| 18:11.02 | |TheKarn| | i cant remember if its protected but it shouldnt be too hard |
| 18:11.25 | Cartas | Hmm |
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| 18:14.19 | Antiarc | charon: Yeah, I did |
| 18:15.25 | Cartas | Argh... |
| 18:15.34 | Cartas | Surely something so simple should be within the API? |
| 18:17.31 | charon | Antiarc: i'll mail the updated patch if you don't mind, i had the logic for one texture color wrong. how did you like the current version? |
| 18:17.49 | Antiarc | To be honest, I haven't checked it out yet :/ |
| 18:17.53 | Antiarc | I've got it diffed in |
| 18:17.57 | Antiarc | But I don't use the pullouts |
| 18:18.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Cartas: use a sorted bag addon, and stop caring about precisely which items are in which slots in your bags. :P |
| 18:18.21 | Cartas | Sorry for trying to be efficient, old chap! |
| 18:18.27 | Cartas | I thought you addon makers would understand that :P |
| 18:18.34 | NightHawkTheSane | efficiency would be a sorted bag addon. :P |
| 18:18.42 | Cartas | That's not particularly efficient, really. |
| 18:18.50 | sylvanaar | i stopped in may when my toon was hacked |
| 18:18.56 | sylvanaar | 1 hour |
| 18:19.00 | sylvanaar | gg |
| 18:19.15 | NightHawkTheSane | more efficient for me than messing with finding things in an unsorted bag, or dealing with macros/addons that put things in very particular placse, which can get messed up very easily :P |
| 18:19.26 | Cartas | My bags are not unsorted! |
| 18:19.38 | charon | Cartas: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PickupContainerItem ... you'll have to build the macro yourself though, i don't have one cut&pastable |
| 18:19.46 | Cartas | You should be ashamed if yours are without an addon! :P |
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| 18:19.53 | sylvanaar | MR PLOW CANT SORT PROFESSION BAGS |
| 18:19.57 | Cartas | I know how to pickup a ContainerItem, unfortunately, Charon. |
| 18:20.04 | sylvanaar | but |
| 18:20.11 | sylvanaar | BulkMail FTW |
| 18:20.23 | Xinhuan | that's the only way to put an item in a specific bag Cartas |
| 18:20.39 | charon | Cartas: right on that page it says the function will put down an item if you have one in the cursor "hand" |
| 18:20.44 | Xinhuan | you can local a = PickupContainerItem |
| 18:20.50 | charon | Cartas: quote "The function behaves differently depending on what is currently on the cursor:" |
| 18:20.51 | Xinhuan | though, and use a() as a shortcut |
| 18:21.00 | Cartas | I usually use C for that one, Xinhuan! :P |
| 18:21.19 | sylvanaar | I just set it up finaly - totally automated my 4 bank alts |
| 18:21.26 | Cartas | I know how it works, but... hm... it still doesn't help. I have to switch out a shield and 1h, in the place of a 2hander, and next to that slot... |
| 18:21.31 | Cartas | and with the same macro, switch back again. |
| 18:21.38 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: yeah, bulkmail's pretty neat if you put the time into setting it up |
| 18:21.45 | sylvanaar | 5 min |
| 18:21.48 | Xinhuan | cartas macros are fairly limited |
| 18:21.50 | Cartas | Hmm |
| 18:21.51 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r48381 10Capping/core.lua: |
| 18:21.51 | CIA-22 | Capping |
| 18:21.51 | CIA-22 | - added a nil check |
| 18:21.56 | Xinhuan | you're trying to do too much in a macro |
| 18:22.07 | Cartas | I've done it before, hmm... |
| 18:22.07 | rophy | how do aff lock+holy priest fight against warrior+pally in 2v2? |
| 18:22.07 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
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| 18:22.09 | sylvanaar | motes, ores, repitems go -> |
| 18:22.28 | sylvanaar | herbs, pots, misc gear go -> |
| 18:22.58 | sylvanaar | you can use PT sets |
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| 18:24.49 | sylvanaar | its like baggins but for mail |
| 18:25.26 | Sithy | Does anyone know of an addon that shows a channel join message even if the channel isn't attached to the main chat frame (ChatFrame1)? Or am I going to have to make one? >.> |
| 18:25.34 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r48382 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar-2.0: if a completion function returns a true value, do not stop the bar. This allows the calling of :StartBar inside the completion function |
| 18:25.42 | Xinhuan | make one |
| 18:25.44 | charon | Antiarc: mailed the new patch. you'll have to revert the earlier one |
| 18:25.52 | Antiarc | thanks |
| 18:25.52 | sylvanaar | on what frame |
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| 18:26.22 | NightHawkTheSane | an addon that showed join/leaves when a channel wasn't attached to chatframe1 would be neat. |
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| 18:26.25 | sylvanaar | any? yeah, the blizzard default |
| 18:26.32 | Sithy | the default frame, if you have a channel only showing text on say frame 3, it won't show who joins that channel. |
| 18:27.03 | sylvanaar | it will on the frame3 |
| 18:27.14 | Sithy | nope, doesn't show |
| 18:28.01 | sylvanaar | what chat addons? |
| 18:28.11 | Sithy | Prat |
| 18:28.42 | sylvanaar | look at filtering module |
| 18:28.51 | Sithy | but even without any addons I've never seen [5. MyChannel] [Player] left channel. |
| 18:29.00 | Sithy | filtering is off |
| 18:29.19 | sylvanaar | i would need logs |
| 18:29.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, without any chat addons, you won't see join/part messages on chat frames that aren't chatframe1 |
| 18:29.32 | Sithy | it shows in chatframe1 (blizz default), but if the channel is attached only to frame 3 you see nothing |
| 18:29.45 | Xinhuan | cos the chatframe1 is not registered for events for that channel |
| 18:29.52 | Xinhuan | so it doesn't display |
| 18:30.07 | Sithy | it doesnt display in chatframe3 either though, thats the problem |
| 18:30.17 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 18:30.19 | sylvanaar | well |
| 18:30.25 | Xinhuan | thats a setting then |
| 18:30.30 | CIA-22 | 03eternally777 * r48383 10DrugTest/RaidTable.lua: |
| 18:30.30 | CIA-22 | DrugTest: |
| 18:30.30 | CIA-22 | * Changed scanner to detect flasks via their descriptions rather than by name. This should resolve detection issues with pre-TBC flasks. |
| 18:30.30 | Xinhuan | that you can set |
| 18:30.32 | Sithy | are the other frames just not registered to the event? |
| 18:30.35 | Xinhuan | type /chat |
| 18:30.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: not one available by default that i've seen |
| 18:30.44 | Xinhuan | i think |
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| 18:30.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
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| 18:31.03 | Xinhuan | look in INterface Options in the ESC menu |
| 18:31.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: yeah, you can mess with join/part messages there, but afaik, it still only affects chatframe1, not others |
| 18:31.08 | Xinhuan | i think there's a show join/parts |
| 18:31.11 | Xinhuan | cvar |
| 18:31.14 | Xinhuan | in there |
| 18:31.14 | sylvanaar | pastey your prat sv's |
| 18:31.29 | sylvanaar | those are for private channels where you are the moderator |
| 18:31.32 | Xinhuan | i'm not logged in now though |
| 18:31.37 | Xinhuan | so i can't check |
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| 18:36.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 18:36.39 | sylvanaar | anyone want to suggest a good rogue speck for the test server? |
| 18:37.06 | sylvanaar | before i go look one up and pick it randomly |
| 18:37.34 | Sithy | 61 sub? lol |
| 18:37.51 | NightHawkTheSane | combat's pretty decent, something like 20/41 or whatever. |
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| 18:40.08 | NightHawkTheSane | this is probably decent.. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboxZMIEkbVzxMhot |
| 18:40.19 | NightHawkTheSane | also, hmm, wowhead changed the layout oftheir talent calc |
| 18:43.11 | Gnarfoz | what's that supposed to be for? |
| 18:43.13 | Gnarfoz | pve? pvp? |
| 18:44.24 | NightHawkTheSane | screwing around on the test server? :P |
| 18:47.01 | sylvanaar | man i wish people could agree on some name for their module pacages. Im down to like < 100. acp's addon list is like 2-3 pages |
| 18:48.36 | sylvanaar | ok 17/29/15 is what i put on my test server rogue |
| 18:48.50 | sylvanaar | i just guessed |
| 18:48.58 | sylvanaar | i going to change it |
| 18:49.09 | Sithy | spread a little thin, but thats what test servers are for, playing :) |
| 18:50.06 | Sithy | I found the fix for this chat joining issue... only ChatFrame1 has CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_JOIN, LEAVE, NOTICE and NOTICE_USER registered. |
| 18:51.01 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7522-GCTweak.html |
| 18:52.05 | cncfanatics | cladhaire, intresting |
| 18:52.22 | cladhaire | makes a very large difference in keeping your usage low. |
| 18:52.54 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r48384 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar: Fixed a missing 'then' to an if statement |
| 18:53.35 | nevcairiel | [Ammo] was drycoding again :) |
| 18:53.44 | ckknight | yay, cladhaire |
| 18:53.51 | ckknight | now before trying it, I'll read it |
| 18:53.57 | ulic | as long as the drycode in easy fixes :P |
| 18:54.16 | ckknight | question, cladhaire |
| 18:54.16 | cladhaire | ckknight: it just runs a step collect OnUpdate, above a certain framerate, when out of combat |
| 18:54.38 | ckknight | what if your compy sucks and you can't get your framerate above 25 normally? |
| 18:54.47 | nevcairiel | set it to something lower |
| 18:54.53 | cncfanatics | like mine for example |
| 18:54.53 | cladhaire | its the easy addon way to solve the issue for right now, until I can convince slouken to get it in the default UI : |
| 18:55.09 | ckknight | ah, alright, I see |
| 18:55.11 | cncfanatics | my UI will rarely get above 20fps |
| 18:55.24 | cladhaire | yeah, you set that value |
| 18:55.30 | nevcairiel | it has a config option to set it to a lower value |
| 18:55.45 | NightHawkTheSane | which you would have seen if you read the page :P |
| 18:56.06 | cncfanatics | I know :) was just adding to what ckk said |
| 18:56.15 | cncfanatics | "Anytime your framerate is higher than the setting" |
| 18:56.17 | nevcairiel | meh something logged me out of wowi again |
| 18:56.20 | nevcairiel | thos ugly ads! |
| 18:56.47 | Cartas | :o |
| 18:57.59 | ckknight | cladhaire: question |
| 18:58.09 | nevcairiel | ~asktoask |
| 18:58.09 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 18:58.11 | cladhaire | answer. |
| 18:58.15 | cladhaire | lol owned. |
| 18:58.25 | ckknight | rhetorical comeback. |
| 18:58.44 | ckknight | cladhaire: instead of removing the OnUpdate script and readding it on enable/disable, why not just :Hide/:Show? |
| 18:59.33 | cladhaire | cause it didn't occur :P |
| 18:59.34 | cladhaire | to me |
| 18:59.45 | cladhaire | but thats an easy enough change :P |
| 19:00.06 | ckknight | I've found it to be more efficient, though probably not enough to really fret over |
| 19:00.46 | cladhaire | aye |
| 19:00.49 | cladhaire | thanks |
| 19:00.57 | Cartas | All inefficiencies should be fretted over, old chap! |
| 19:01.05 | cladhaire | its fun to watch the difference when you have gctweak running |
| 19:01.05 | Cartas | Never let your guard down, CKKnight! |
| 19:01.08 | cladhaire | and you make say, 1e5 tables. |
| 19:01.18 | cladhaire | it basically never collects em when its not running :P |
| 19:01.25 | cladhaire | took over 5 minutes and it wasn't done marking |
| 19:01.29 | cladhaire | 25 seconds with gct |
| 19:01.29 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:01.45 | ckknight | yea, I've actually used the same algorithm as you, except not with the FPS check |
| 19:01.47 | ckknight | previously |
| 19:01.55 | ckknight | good work, though |
| 19:01.59 | ckknight | now convince Slouken. |
| 19:02.16 | ckknight | :_P |
| 19:02.18 | ckknight | :-P* |
| 19:02.44 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I wonder when the next expansion beta is gonna start |
| 19:03.15 | ckknight | now to vote down the addon because it was cladhaire who wrote it... |
| 19:03.22 | ckknight | jk, 5/5 |
| 19:03.32 | Cartas | Which addon is this? |
| 19:03.36 | cncfanatics | you two still love eachother I see :) |
| 19:03.40 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: my bet is on not before next year |
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| 19:03.52 | cladhaire | ckknight: it shouldn't be too tough to convince slouken :P |
| 19:03.53 | Cartas | I reckon the beta will come out around the time that I start my exams... |
| 19:04.09 | Cartas | WoW and TBC came out at my exams too :( |
| 19:04.30 | Gngsk | drop out of school to play WoW full time, problem solved |
| 19:04.41 | ckknight | cncfanatics: ah, it was mostly me being a dick. We both agreed to drop our petty warfare. |
| 19:05.28 | cncfanatics | hmmm, there's lots of rumours around that new exp gets released at the same time as WAR |
| 19:05.36 | ckknight | good move on their part. |
| 19:05.43 | ckknight | though frankly, don't count on it |
| 19:05.53 | ckknight | if Blizz is not ready to release, they won't release |
| 19:06.06 | ulic | WAR? |
| 19:06.14 | Cartas | Warhammer. |
| 19:06.17 | nevcairiel | warhammer online |
| 19:06.17 | ulic | ah |
| 19:06.18 | Cartas | Online, I suspect! |
| 19:06.26 | cncfanatics | Warhammer online: Age of Reckoning |
| 19:06.43 | cncfanatics | though, I heard they're limiting the UI customizing a LOT, which I dislike |
| 19:06.53 | cncfanatics | ur pretty much only gonna be able to change basic looks of it from what I heard |
| 19:06.57 | cncfanatics | which sucks dicks |
| 19:06.57 | Cartas | WO:AoR, people should say then... not WAR. |
| 19:07.26 | cncfanatics | no |
| 19:07.29 | ckknight | Cartas: they call it WAR |
| 19:07.30 | cncfanatics | correct letters were capsed |
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| 19:07.36 | cncfanatics | Warhammer online: Age of Reckoning: WAR |
| 19:07.41 | Cartas | I'm not even going to play their game then. |
| 19:07.51 | the-golem | lol |
| 19:07.56 | cncfanatics | I'm not playing it if I can't mess with the UI :) |
| 19:08.05 | ckknight | I'm not gonna play, cause it's not for Mac |
| 19:08.13 | Cartas | If they can't afford to buy a professional abbreviation-maker, then imagine what the game is like... |
| 19:08.29 | ckknight | frankly, WoW's approach to UI isn't bad |
| 19:08.37 | ckknight | as far as allowing 3rd parties to participate |
| 19:09.04 | Cartas | Do any other MMO's have such a good flexible UI? |
| 19:09.46 | cncfanatics | Cartas, the abreviation was chosen on purpose |
| 19:09.48 | cncfanatics | whats ur prob ? :p |
| 19:09.51 | Cartas | I think not! |
| 19:09.53 | cncfanatics | WAR >>>> WO: AoR |
| 19:09.58 | Cartas | They were lazy and so just made something random. |
| 19:10.20 | cncfanatics | nah, its a massive pvp based game, WAR suits it a lot imo, if you do know some warhammer lore |
| 19:10.35 | ckknight | clad|away: part of me wishes that Blizz didn't allow performance profiling, so that people wouldn't bitch about mem use and the like |
| 19:10.37 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:10.39 | Cartas | WAR might suit it, but it's not the anem of the game! :P |
| 19:10.48 | clad|away | ckknight: hehe well sometimes its nice to know |
| 19:10.52 | Cartas | WAR would suit WoW, because of the WARcraft and all. |
| 19:10.54 | clad|away | and if this makes it in, i'll be a lot more accurate too |
| 19:10.57 | Cartas | But it doesn't fit with the name! :P |
| 19:11.13 | ckknight | clad|away: yea... |
| 19:11.17 | cncfanatics | Cartas, why are we bitching about an abreviation anyway ? |
| 19:11.23 | Cartas | I don't know, old chap! |
| 19:11.29 | Cartas | Because I was joking and you assumed otherwise, methinks! |
| 19:12.05 | cncfanatics | hehe, so do I |
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| 19:22.06 | art3mis | i call it WHO |
| 19:22.22 | art3mis | although technically it could be WHOAR ;P |
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| 19:29.28 | NightHawkTheSane | you're a whoar. |
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| 19:32.22 | the-golem | grrr |
| 19:32.29 | the-golem | *shakefist at SVN* |
| 19:34.29 | rophy | how do I change the spell of Blizzard's action bar by wow API? |
| 19:34.35 | rophy | SetAttribute? |
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| 19:35.30 | charon | guys, you should _definitely_ learn from blizzard... how is addon programming going to become a long term time sink if i can get a simple event tracker using candybar up and running in an hour or so? |
| 19:35.32 | nevcairiel | there are numerous ways, what exactly do you want? |
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| 19:35.53 | rophy | hmm... I want to switch the content of 2 action buttons |
| 19:36.04 | rophy | one is in page 2, one is in page 1 |
| 19:36.05 | sylvanaar | ok, stuff dies like 5x faster now - but what are my combo pt building patterns? |
| 19:36.27 | nevcairiel | you can always SetAttribute("action", id) on them |
| 19:36.39 | rophy | does that saves across server? |
| 19:36.46 | rophy | i.e. just like when I manually switch two buttons |
| 19:36.52 | CIA-22 | 03warloxx * r48385 10IceHUD_ToTHealth/: |
| 19:36.52 | CIA-22 | IceHUD_ToTHealth: initial commit |
| 19:36.52 | CIA-22 | - a TargetofTarget healthbar ring for IceHUD |
| 19:36.56 | nevcairiel | nah that wont save, only for the session |
| 19:37.17 | rophy | how do I get the effect of 'manually switch 2 action buttons' by wow API? |
| 19:38.18 | nevcairiel | you can PickupAction and PlaceAction |
| 19:38.21 | nevcairiel | out of combat |
| 19:38.30 | rophy | hmm |
| 19:38.31 | nevcairiel | ~api PlaceAction |
| 19:38.31 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PlaceAction |
| 19:38.33 | rophy | yeah that sounds like what I want |
| 19:38.35 | nevcairiel | wonder if thats the right command |
| 19:38.43 | rophy | I'll try it now, thanks |
| 19:39.48 | rophy | PickupAction() itself is enough |
| 19:39.59 | rophy | PickupAction(1) PickupAction(13) |
| 19:40.09 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 19:40.11 | nevcairiel | does it auto-place it when you pick something up? |
| 19:40.14 | nevcairiel | never tried :) |
| 19:40.21 | rophy | ya it does |
| 19:40.24 | rophy | works great |
| 19:40.26 | rophy | thanks again :) |
| 19:40.30 | nevcairiel | np |
| 19:40.35 | rophy | has been ages since i touch the action buttons |
| 19:40.42 | rophy | way before secure frames |
| 19:40.54 | Gnarfoz | ScheduleRepeatingEvent is missing documentation since the crash... what do I need to specify besides 'event' and 'delay'? nothing? will it just repeat with the same delay again after delay is up? |
| 19:40.57 | nevcairiel | dont rely on those commands in compat |
| 19:41.05 | nevcairiel | *combat |
| 19:41.05 | rophy | of course |
| 19:41.07 | nevcairiel | damn typos |
| 19:42.32 | CIA-22 | 03warloxx * r48386 10IceHUD_ToTHealth/ (. IceHUD_ToTHealth.toc TargetTargetHealth.lua): |
| 19:42.32 | CIA-22 | IceHUD_ToTHealth: |
| 19:42.32 | CIA-22 | - first release |
| 19:44.36 | Gnarfoz | heh, a complete 4 minute countdown timer that flashes the LowHealtFrame for 10 seconds when the timer is up, inside a macro. :D AV, here I come |
| 19:47.31 | clad|away | lol |
| 19:47.36 | clad|away | i need noises |
| 19:48.53 | rophy | are Blizzard action buttons special, or I should I be able to get the correct attributes out of them? |
| 19:49.16 | rophy | ActionButton6:GetAttribute("type") == "action", but ActionButton6:GetAttribute("action") returns empty. |
| 19:50.06 | rophy | isn't it supposed to set something in action when type=='action'? |
| 19:51.08 | Corey | you here cncfanatics? |
| 19:52.08 | Gbyrd | command and conquer? |
| 19:52.23 | Gbyrd | oh wait thats apersons name :| |
| 19:52.27 | Corey | yea |
| 19:52.28 | Corey | lol |
| 19:56.17 | ckknight | clad|away: noises to tell when you're at low health? |
| 19:56.31 | clad|away | no, when i'm about to go afk :P |
| 19:56.52 | clad|away | brb gold |
| 19:56.55 | clad|away | golf even |
| 19:59.53 | NightHawkTheSane | graah |
| 20:00.00 | NightHawkTheSane | bloody db server is down,and i can't get any work done. >< |
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| 20:01.43 | Sh^ | is there a better way of having the same custom colors on pitbull bars, other than tyring to guess them? |
| 20:02.49 | ckknight | not currently |
| 20:07.58 | zariel | is it not possible to have auras go from right to left on the bottom/top? with left then down and bottom mode it clips through the uf |
| 20:08.33 | zariel | i mean can you change the anchor point on them |
| 20:09.11 | Gnarfoz | clad|away: yeah, I could fit a PlaySound() in there, still :D |
| 20:09.39 | Gnarfoz | gah |
| 20:10.32 | Gnarfoz | if I do 'local b=AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0"); b:ScheduleRepeatingEvent(a,240);' then I really have no way of removing that event, do I? |
| 20:10.44 | Gnarfoz | inside a macro, that is |
| 20:12.19 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i dont think so, no |
| 20:12.53 | charon | Gnarfoz: you could make your improvised AceLibrary global? |
| 20:13.04 | charon | so you can access it later on |
| 20:13.39 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: yes, if you give it a name |
| 20:13.55 | ckknight | also, you don't need to make an addon |
| 20:14.20 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):ScheduleRepeatingEvent("MyThingy", a, 240) |
| 20:14.32 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):CancelScheduledEvent("MyThingy") |
| 20:15.36 | Corey | ddoh, come back cnc :( |
| 20:15.43 | charon | mh yea... so i made this tiny little addon that will display countdown bars for every Mangle debuff your combat log picks up... can someone tell me which addon would have done that for ages, or would that have enough of an audience to publish on wowace? |
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| 20:16.35 | charon | also, wtb more creative name than Mangler |
| 20:16.51 | Corey | wts potatoes |
| 20:16.59 | Corey | you here cncfanatics? |
| 20:18.18 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: ah, ok :) docs for that have not really recovered |
| 20:18.26 | Gnarfoz | I shall update that part =) |
| 20:18.38 | cncfanatics | Corey, pong |
| 20:18.50 | ckknight | it's not really a recommended practice :-P |
| 20:18.57 | cncfanatics | whats up Corey, was about to go to bed ? |
| 20:19.13 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: what, naming Repeating Events? |
| 20:19.30 | ckknight | no, doing it from AceEvent itself |
| 20:19.36 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 20:19.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah I didn't plan on changing that, just the ability to specify a name |
| 20:20.10 | cncfanatics | Corey ? |
| 20:20.13 | cncfanatics | please hurry, tired :) |
| 20:20.29 | Corey | oops |
| 20:20.31 | Corey | sorry |
| 20:21.14 | Corey | i noticed if i unlock all buttons and push unlock action on one the ones that already have an action set dissapear and i can only use the new things i put up then they dissapear and the old ones come back |
| 20:21.24 | Corey | works if i just unlock the button i need though |
| 20:22.00 | cncfanatics | hmmm weird |
| 20:22.11 | cncfanatics | lemme check that fast |
| 20:22.20 | Corey | like doing a reload will bring the old ones back |
| 20:22.24 | Corey | and ur new ones will dissapear |
| 20:22.41 | cncfanatics | weird weird weird, sounds like an attribute bug |
| 20:23.52 | cncfanatics | so, I push unlock all, then unlock the action of a button ? |
| 20:24.32 | cncfanatics | cant seem to reproduce it |
| 20:25.28 | cncfanatics | Corey, please post step by step on how to reproduce it on the wiki, I need sleep now |
| 20:25.52 | Corey | ok |
| 20:25.54 | Corey | good night :D |
| 20:25.58 | cncfanatics | tnx, g'night |
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| 20:30.30 | Gnarfoz | reloading the UI should clear all scheduled repeating events, right? |
| 20:30.50 | ckknight | clad|away: part of me wonders whether the in combat check is even necessary |
| 20:31.10 | ckknight | clad|away: since it's just the FPS you're worried about |
| 20:32.40 | sb | gnangng vashj 4% |
| 20:32.48 | TNSe | gz |
| 20:32.52 | TNSe | now next time wipe at 3% |
| 20:32.53 | TNSe | and then 2% |
| 20:32.54 | TNSe | and 1% |
| 20:32.56 | sb | :o |
| 20:32.57 | TNSe | then 99% |
| 20:33.03 | Gnarfoz | multiple times at 1%! |
| 20:33.07 | TNSe | :D |
| 20:33.17 | TNSe | I've heard a trick there is to soulstone shammies |
| 20:33.18 | Gnarfoz | frustration to the max |
| 20:33.25 | TNSe | so they can frostshock down last 3% |
| 20:33.30 | sb | i hate you guys :/ |
| 20:33.30 | Tornhoof | nah never |
| 20:33.32 | sica | we had like 7 1-5% wipes on c'thun :( |
| 20:33.38 | TNSe | soulstone + ankh = tons of damage |
| 20:33.38 | Gnarfoz | ss on shammies is teh waste |
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| 20:33.41 | Gnarfoz | they've got ankh :D |
| 20:33.45 | Tornhoof | they can't frostshock the last 3% |
| 20:34.08 | Tornhoof | even with a mana potion, they won't get more than one fs out, since they'll in less than 6s anyway |
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| 20:34.21 | sica | nah, ss on shammies is 4tw, they can ss, br, ankh... that's like 4 fucking lifes |
| 20:36.15 | Gnarfoz | br? oO |
| 20:36.18 | TNSe | and 30% dura |
| 20:36.55 | sica | battlerezz |
| 20:36.55 | CIA-22 | 03darravis * r48387 10Voyeur/Voyeur.lua: Voyeur: Voyeur will now display the correct item tooltips for inspected players that are out of range or no longer targeted. |
| 20:38.45 | rophy | anyone uses PT3Bar? |
| 20:38.54 | Gnarfoz | sica: since when do shammies have a BR? o_O |
| 20:39.07 | Gnarfoz | or did you mean that they can be BR'd |
| 20:39.31 | Gnarfoz | also, where did my Wiki account disappear to? o_O I must have one, I signed SVN rules with it :D |
| 20:39.38 | alext | wtf soulstone a shammy |
| 20:39.42 | alext | always soulstone pallies first come on now |
| 20:39.46 | alext | if theres no pallies then whatever |
| 20:40.16 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: when the site crashed maybe it lost it |
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| 20:41.51 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: ah of course, I'm trying to update documentation that got lost in the crash, I should have figured ^^ |
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| 20:46.41 | ckknight | cya all in a little while |
| 20:47.25 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 20:48.01 | sb | 5% EVADE FFS |
| 20:48.07 | Gnarfoz | does this warning mean, I should rather change the autodoc stuff inside the code rather then edit the wiki page? "Note: This documentation is auto-generated. Please note that direct modifications may be overwritten on next autogenerate." how often is this autogenerate run? |
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| 20:51.14 | Ominous | it means the documentation is made using autodoc |
| 20:51.25 | Ominous | which is comments from inside a script file |
| 20:53.42 | kadrahil | so when should a raid attempt void reaver? when we have gruul down? |
| 20:53.55 | Gnarfoz | kadrahil: Magtheridon first, I'd say |
| 20:54.09 | kadrahil | Gnarfoz: several guilds have skipped mag and gone straight to VR |
| 20:54.15 | kadrahil | on my server at least |
| 20:54.24 | Gnarfoz | you could try, yes |
| 20:54.38 | Gnarfoz | but beware, TK trash is a bitch (I heard it gets nerfed in 2.2) |
| 20:54.42 | kadrahil | ahh |
| 20:54.46 | pastamancer | yeah, I did VR before mag |
| 20:55.00 | kadrahil | i was reading about the VR fight and it looks easy |
| 20:55.03 | Gnarfoz | VR itself is pretty simple, if everyone does what they're supposed to |
| 20:55.16 | Gnarfoz | and you have the DPS to kill him inside the enrage time limit |
| 20:55.51 | pastamancer | it's only marginally more complicated than gruul |
| 20:55.51 | kadrahil | yeah.. we're working on gruul, 3 (or 4?) weeks in and we got him to 45% our best attempt |
| 20:55.51 | Fisker- | attack pastamancer! |
| 20:55.51 | Fisker- | demand more grid of your pastamancer |
| 20:55.51 | Fisker- | eat delicious cake |
| 20:55.52 | kadrahil | we have some dps that is lacking, and the melee dps doesn't know when to get out of the freaking cave ins |
| 20:56.24 | Gnarfoz | BigWigs sure helps |
| 20:56.30 | kadrahil | yep |
| 20:56.32 | CIA-22 | 03kaybe * r48388 10Klappa/ (8 files): |
| 20:56.32 | CIA-22 | Klappa: |
| 20:56.32 | CIA-22 | -Option to hide/show tooltip |
| 20:56.32 | CIA-22 | -show the count of consumable items |
| 20:56.32 | CIA-22 | -fixed the bug with not loaded buttons (I hope) |
| 20:56.34 | Gnarfoz | I never get one hp of dmg from cave in |
| 20:56.36 | kadrahil | most of my raid uses DBM |
| 20:56.48 | Gnarfoz | eek. |
| 20:56.52 | kadrahil | i think i'm the only one that uses bigwigs |
| 20:56.57 | alext | we tried VR first as a guild |
| 20:56.58 | alext | just once tho |
| 20:57.03 | alext | then worked on mag and it clicked |
| 20:57.12 | Gnarfoz | after my MT kept dying to wrong Silence timers from DBM on Gruul, he switched to BigWigs ;D |
| 20:57.14 | alext | our probably with mag was the clickers, you need 10 people that know exactly what their doing |
| 20:57.15 | Morghus | kadrahil: WWS everything, and remove dkp for every 1k amount of cave-in damage they take xD |
| 20:57.18 | alext | and the key was an addon |
| 20:57.23 | kadrahil | Morghus: lol |
| 20:57.24 | alext | theres a great addon for mag |
| 20:57.27 | kadrahil | Morghus: too bad we don't use dkp |
| 20:57.28 | alext | that announces clicker rotations |
| 20:57.33 | alext | and marks them with a raid icon |
| 20:57.46 | kadrahil | Gnarfoz: heh |
| 20:57.59 | Gnarfoz | alext: dynamically updating the icons on the 5 people who are next, in fight? |
| 20:58.02 | alext | yup |
| 20:58.11 | alext | i forget the name, i will try to look it up |
| 20:58.16 | alext | u may be able to google or search curse |
| 20:58.18 | Gnarfoz | there's an idea for an extension of the already existing BW module |
| 20:58.21 | kadrahil | alext: please |
| 20:58.23 | alext | but what it does, gives raid warnings that say "TEAM 1 IS UP" |
| 20:58.30 | alext | and lists the team members and puts icons on their heads |
| 20:58.31 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 20:58.43 | alext | so thats kinda like a slap in the face "wake up clickers" deal |
| 20:58.48 | Gnarfoz | that'd be awesome. we have backup clickers |
| 20:58.48 | alext | it was funny, once we used that addon |
| 20:58.51 | alext | we downed him the first try |
| 20:58.53 | alext | with that addon |
| 20:58.58 | Gnarfoz | but they sometimes fail to notice the real clicker is not there |
| 20:59.07 | alext | the addon also supports adding alternates on the fly |
| 20:59.09 | kadrahil | is mag pretty much a tank and spank / click cubes fight? |
| 20:59.10 | alext | apparently |
| 20:59.16 | alext | kadrahil: after u kill his adds |
| 20:59.19 | kadrahil | ahh |
| 20:59.20 | alext | those 5 warlock guys |
| 20:59.23 | Morghus | kadrahil: Ask them personally what's making them stand around in cave-ins, and point out a sheep will be smart enough to move away when hurt :P |
| 20:59.25 | Gnarfoz | alext: we could sure use that... last night we failed to kill him and have postponed it to before our TK raid on sunday >_< |
| 20:59.34 | kadrahil | Morghus: haha |
| 20:59.35 | Gnarfoz | stealing time from our SSC tries after VR is down |
| 21:00.08 | kadrahil | i think most of our raid is wanting to skip mag and go for VR when we down gruul :/ |
| 21:00.11 | kadrahil | i want my t4 chest, heh |
| 21:00.19 | CIA-22 | 03kaybe * r48389 10Klappa/KlappaBar.lua: |
| 21:00.19 | CIA-22 | Klappa: |
| 21:00.20 | CIA-22 | -deleted file not needed anymore |
| 21:00.32 | alext | hey folks |
| 21:00.33 | alext | I think this is it |
| 21:00.34 | alext | http://elitistjerks.com/344097-post6.html |
| 21:00.35 | Gnarfoz | 0. |
| 21:00.40 | alext | the link to the addon is there, I *think* thats it |
| 21:00.44 | alext | i never used it, our guild leader does |
| 21:00.45 | Gnarfoz | err what? hit my numpad by accident ;D] |
| 21:00.47 | alext | but that seems to be the one |
| 21:00.49 | alext | http://elitistjerks.com/344097-post6.html |
| 21:00.52 | Morghus | kadrahil: If you can't kill Mags you will have serious problems later, as it's the perfect intro to later fights |
| 21:00.55 | alext | mag cube clicker addon = http://elitistjerks.com/344097-post6.html |
| 21:01.08 | kadrahil | Morghus: i'll keep that in mind |
| 21:01.38 | Gnarfoz | sweet :D |
| 21:01.46 | kadrahil | yeah, thanks for that |
| 21:02.04 | Morghus | The thing about Magtheridon is that it's a relatively easy fight that requires you to communicate quickly, and demands proper organization. |
| 21:02.26 | Gnarfoz | I'm so making that compatible for other client languages etc, perhaps even make it a BW module ^^ |
| 21:02.43 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't even need communication, if no one dies :D |
| 21:03.12 | Morghus | You've got the stuff that falls from the roof |
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| 21:03.41 | Morghus | Someone spamming MOVE in /ra always helps. Or even better, a Ventrilo chat :) |
| 21:03.42 | Gnarfoz | Morghus: yeah, but... gotta move out of it, done :D |
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| 21:04.43 | caith | hi \^^/ |
| 21:04.47 | Morghus | Heya |
| 21:05.10 | caith | finally found a interface-channel :) |
| 21:05.15 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:05.39 | Morghus | Hey ckk |
| 21:06.43 | Morghus | Gnarfoz: You're working on BigWigs? |
| 21:07.06 | ckknight | caith: come here for a reason? |
| 21:07.40 | caith | well ... |
| 21:08.08 | caith | its boring .. so usually I rebuild by ui then .. but its just to perfect :P |
| 21:08.20 | charon | is there a way to set the LFG interface stuff through an addon? manually choosing Raid - BT gets old after the Nth time |
| 21:08.33 | sylvanaar | no joke |
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| 21:09.02 | Gnarfoz | Morghus: no. just thinking of making that little gem of an addon into something that plugs into bigwigs |
| 21:09.08 | sylvanaar | i use CallToArms, and ust join any channel |
| 21:09.40 | sylvanaar | there is even a mod than lets you join LFG without listing yourself in the tool manually |
| 21:09.50 | charon | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetLookingForGroup <- ah, answered my own question |
| 21:10.03 | sylvanaar | CallToArms + that = <3 |
| 21:11.05 | Ominous | ckknight: should we convert to Babble-Spell-3.0 yet? |
| 21:11.17 | sylvanaar | I dont get why it cant remember the note event |
| 21:11.19 | ckknight | Ominous: not _quite_ yet |
| 21:11.28 | Ominous | ckknight: oki |
| 21:12.10 | sylvanaar | You sure thats not protected api now? |
| 21:13.54 | sylvanaar | says not |
| 21:14.36 | Ominous | ckknight: what about SharedMedia-3.0 |
| 21:14.41 | Ominous | or 2* |
| 21:15.08 | sylvanaar | works |
| 21:15.13 | ckknight | LibSharedMedia-2.0, hrm, I wouldn't say quite yet. There's still the issue of it not sending out messages, due to the framework agnosticism |
| 21:15.43 | sylvanaar | charon make LFG saver addon |
| 21:16.19 | |TheKarn| | eepanels is sexy |
| 21:16.31 | kadrahil | Gnarfoz: i'm going to try to suggest we all switch to bigwigs... but i'm not a raid leader or an officer, so i don't know how far that will go :) |
| 21:16.42 | charon | sylvanaar: uh... i think one addon per coding night should be enough, given that i've never done it before ;) |
| 21:17.31 | sylvanaar | it will only take like 6 lines of code |
| 21:18.10 | Gnarfoz | kadrahil: best to subversively get a raid leader to use it ;D |
| 21:19.07 | kadrahil | Gnarfoz: hehe yeah |
| 21:19.21 | kadrahil | Gnarfoz: well one of our RL's is the GM, and the other is the recruit officer :/ |
| 21:19.28 | kadrahil | but we're all pretty good friends so heh |
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| 21:21.46 | ckknight | sylvanaar: ? |
| 21:22.11 | charon | kadrahil: good luck. our leotheras warlock tank has ignored all requests to install Omen. |
| 21:23.09 | Saint-N | anyone familiar with eepanels2? |
| 21:23.26 | Saint-N | i gotsz me a question |
| 21:24.04 | sylvanaar | i was teasing him - how he says how many lines of code he does stuff in |
| 21:24.10 | sylvanaar | alot |
| 21:24.10 | Saint-N | im curious as to whether the texture image needs to be a particular size or format |
| 21:24.38 | sylvanaar | you know you can make that addon in 2 lines |
| 21:24.42 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.54 | Saint-N | which addon? |
| 21:25.06 | sylvanaar | to save the LFG UI settings |
| 21:26.40 | sylvanaar | MYVAR = { GetLookingForGroup() |
| 21:26.54 | sylvanaar | saves it |
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| 21:28.28 | sylvanaar | then you can call SetLookingForGroup with that data |
| 21:30.24 | sylvanaar | think this works /script SetLookingForGroup(unpack(LFG)) |
| 21:30.30 | kadrahil | charon: heh |
| 21:30.58 | kadrahil | charon: i think our tank actually likes installing mods and has a few Ace2 mods, and i know at least a few people in our raid that use omen |
| 21:31.24 | kadrahil | i got one of our healers to switch to Pitbull and he absolutely loves it |
| 21:32.01 | charon | well, funny thing is at least 20 of the active members use it... but of course it's all moot if the tank doesn't have it in the one fight where KTM fails completely |
| 21:32.13 | kadrahil | lol |
| 21:32.14 | charon | no ferals around who would help me test the Mangler? :) |
| 21:32.27 | kadrahil | hmm |
| 21:32.29 | mort | as in.. almost every fight ;) |
| 21:32.33 | kadrahil | any hunters around? |
| 21:33.12 | kadrahil | should i be working on getting my ebon netherscale set instead of the kara pieces i already have? |
| 21:33.12 | Morghus | charon: Mangler? |
| 21:33.44 | charon | i hacked up a small mod that tracks all "X's Mangle (...) hits Y for .." to display bars that countdown their debuffs |
| 21:34.12 | mort | my feral just got 42, sorry no mangle |
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| 21:34.40 | charon | unfortunately it's only useful in raids or other places where you're with other ferals |
| 21:34.51 | charon | chronometer/classtimers can track your own mangle just fine |
| 21:35.00 | charon | but my next raid is going to be on sunday :-\ |
| 21:36.07 | Morghus | Charon: Make it a fullblown DebuffFilter addon \o/ |
| 21:36.17 | Morghus | Debuff Filter tends to miss many of them :/ |
| 21:36.29 | Morghus | And I'm a full feral, but I'm not raiding till sunday either :P |
| 21:36.37 | charon | i'm not sure you can track it that way :( |
| 21:37.09 | charon | i mean, you won't know the exact time it expires if you just look at the debuffs and another feral puts it up and refreshes it |
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| 21:37.27 | charon | but mangle is special because it always applies the debuff if it lands |
| 21:37.31 | kadrahil | i just showed our secretary how to make zip files :X |
| 21:37.33 | charon | i'll look into debufffilter though |
| 21:38.38 | Morghus | Debuff Filter is buggy, but the best option to track debuffs so far. |
| 21:39.07 | Morghus | ( that I've found atleast ) |
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| 21:43.40 | kadrahil | !seen cryect |
| 21:43.40 | Diao | Cryect!i=Cryect@pool-72-95-155-202.pitbpa.east.verizon.net was last seen 1 day 15 hr 37 min 31 s ago on #wowace |
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| 21:51.58 | charon | http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/Mangler-0.1.zip if anyone wants to try |
| 21:52.43 | Morghus | Will do as soon as possible, though not ... too soon I'm afraid. Sleepy-time now |
| 21:52.57 | zariel | my pitbull target frame/tot dont save their layout for some reason =/ |
| 21:53.47 | zariel | after ui reload / relog |
| 21:56.11 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r48390 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/enUS.lua): ClassTimer: Added a warning message about sticky |
| 21:56.46 | Ominous | why do people often have domain/~.... not just domain/... |
| 21:56.55 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r48391 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: update zhCN local |
| 21:57.20 | Sithy | its how their ISP is setup with user accounts. /~ leads to that users home dir if *nix is setup like so. |
| 21:57.32 | Sithy | I could be wrong but that is one reason. |
| 21:58.25 | charon | for my case, you're absolutely right... or well, apache is usually set up to translate /~user/ in WWW terms to ~user/somesuffix/ in unix terms |
| 21:58.45 | charon | default config has ~/public_html/ i think |
| 21:58.56 | Ominous | ah thanks |
| 21:59.00 | charon | (and the ISP is my university) |
| 21:59.02 | Sithy | wee I'm no crazy? |
| 21:59.06 | Sithy | thats new |
| 22:00.07 | Morghus | Anyone able to add range-checking to CorkFu? =P |
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| 22:05.18 | Sithy | So has anyone else have same problem I have(had) with chat channels? Basically others joining and leaving only shows if that channel is on the default chat frame. If the channel is on any another chat frame join/leave never show. |
| 22:06.15 | ckknight | waves* |
| 22:08.27 | Sithy | everyone must be eating dinner! :o |
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| 22:18.06 | charon | Sithy: no. i have most channels in ChatFrame3 (only spammy stuff in 1) and they show join/leave just fine |
| 22:18.13 | charon | though i faintly remember that wasn't always the case |
| 22:18.30 | Sithy | hmmm |
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| 22:19.01 | Sithy | I was able to fix it for myself, perhaps you have a mod that fixed it a while ago |
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| 22:19.52 | Sithy | just wondering if anyone would even care if I posted the fix, just registers a few events to the chatframes lol |
| 22:21.10 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r48392 10LFGSaver/ (. LFGSaver.lua LFGSaver.toc): |
| 22:21.10 | CIA-22 | LFGSaver: Lets you save your settings in blizzards LFG tool. The settings are stored per character |
| 22:21.10 | CIA-22 | /script LFG:Save() |
| 22:21.10 | CIA-22 | /script LFG:Load() |
| 22:22.30 | sylvanaar | someone hook it up to somethign so i dont hvae to type the commands |
| 22:24.45 | sylvanaar | Sithy most people have that turned off |
| 22:26.58 | sylvanaar | Sithy its not a bug, thats how bliz's frames work. Now, if you want to make a module that lets you configure the rest of those kinds of things like CHAT_MSG_LOOT, that'd be cool |
| 22:27.32 | Sithy | then I'll just keep it to myself. :P I just like to keep in touch with some people that I'm not guilded with at the moment, dont say friends list because yeah... mine's capped with mains and alts. |
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| 22:28.03 | Sithy | ah like the supression of loot rolls? |
| 22:28.25 | sylvanaar | system message control tool did that |
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| 22:29.10 | Sithy | I remember using that once before, it broke a long time ago. Did anyone ever port it to 2.0? |
| 22:30.03 | sylvanaar | no, i was hoping you would |
| 22:30.24 | Sithy | looks like someone has... sec |
| 22:31.06 | Sithy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7403-SystemMessageControlToolSMCT.html 7-30-07 was the last update. |
| 22:31.08 | sylvanaar | author abandoned it |
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| 22:41.43 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 22:47.44 | Hjalte | How can Pitbull take 2.4 mb of memory from a fresh /rl ? I'm not complaining, just wondering :) |
| 22:48.08 | Saladin | you could disable some UFs |
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| 22:49.11 | sylvanaar | memory is unimportant |
| 22:49.51 | sylvanaar | that profiling info just feeds peoples ocd |
| 22:50.26 | Hjalte | sylvanaar, i know memory is unimportant, but i try and keep my pitbull relatively simple and still it's taking up *way* more memory than some other bar mods that look sort of like it. Again, not complaining, just curious. |
| 22:51.12 | sylvanaar | Im telling you that memory number is grossly inaccurate in many cases |
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| 22:52.25 | Hjalte | sylvanaar, I'm using seperate libraries, wouldnt that make my memory ratings, more or less, accurate? |
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| 22:53.44 | sylvanaar | it will provide numbers which have a finer granularity, but they have the same accuracy |
| 22:54.23 | sylvanaar | i guess its a form of greater precision, but not accuracy |
| 22:54.30 | Hjalte | sylvanaar, any way that i can make it more accurate? |
| 22:54.36 | sylvanaar | no |
| 22:55.11 | sylvanaar | its not designed to be accurate - just very rough |
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| 22:57.00 | Hjalte | sylvanaar, hmm, it's funny, my pitbull folder is only 825 kb. |
| 22:57.13 | sylvanaar | why is it funny? |
| 22:57.34 | sylvanaar | that the size of the addon after GC? |
| 22:57.35 | Hjalte | because it takes up 2,4mb in game. i guess it doesnt have to be related, at all, but still.. |
| 22:58.09 | Hjalte | 2,7 mb sylvanaar |
| 22:58.13 | sylvanaar | Prat's size in game = its size on disk |
| 22:58.40 | sylvanaar | whatever that means |
| 22:59.43 | Ominous | kergoth: bah was afk, ping again |
| 23:00.14 | Hjalte | I'm just wondering how Pitbull gets to 2,7 mb ingame, when each library is loaded itself and the folder is much smaller :\ where's ckknight when you need him. |
| 23:00.15 | sylvanaar | if you use prat's autoLoD, then Prat_Modules = maybe 30k and takes up 500k on disk |
| 23:00.27 | Gnarfoz | I'd guess creating several complete secure unitframes takes up more space in memory than altering already existing chatframes? |
| 23:00.44 | sylvanaar | it loads textures |
| 23:01.04 | sylvanaar | creates frames, etc |
| 23:01.08 | Gnarfoz | you don't actually need him, because it's not a problem, like sylvanaar said. if you're just curious, of course, he'd be handy now ;-) |
| 23:01.20 | Hjalte | sylvanaar, do you think it would be more accurate if i let wau split up Pitbull in my addons folder, and then having me not load the unneeded modules from the character selection screen instead of ingame, as i do now? |
| 23:02.04 | sylvanaar | its a tossup |
| 23:02.06 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r48393 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua Core/ExtraText.lua): |
| 23:02.06 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 23:02.06 | CIA-22 | - fixed typo |
| 23:02.25 | sylvanaar | it CAN provide more info, but then it may not |
| 23:02.41 | Nargiddley | Hjalte, my guess is frames will take alot more memory than the code needed to generate them |
| 23:03.06 | Hjalte | Nargiddley, i see. I think you're right. |
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| 23:04.52 | CIA-22 | 03darravis * r48394 10Voyeur/Voyeur.lua: Voyeur: The inspect frame will now update when a players equipment changes. |
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| 23:06.01 | sylvanaar | seriously someone try and tie the LFGSaver to the LFGFrame so that it auto saves and loads |
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| 23:07.18 | sylvanaar | I guess you could make it LoD, and load with the LFGFrame somehow |
| 23:07.33 | ckknight | hey all |
| 23:07.43 | sylvanaar | hihi |
| 23:09.04 | Ominous | ckknight: hey |
| 23:10.22 | Stan__ | hi ckk |
| 23:10.49 | Ominous | Stan__: nickserv ftw |
| 23:11.18 | Stan__ | Ominous: mm? |
| 23:11.35 | Ominous | Stan__: means after a dc you dont need to add __ after your name |
| 23:11.47 | Stan__ | well someone is called Stan here |
| 23:11.51 | Ominous | ah |
| 23:11.51 | Stan__ | and it is not me :P |
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| 23:13.52 | Pkekyo | does Bioshock have multiple endings? |
| 23:14.01 | Stan__ | yeah 2 |
| 23:14.28 | Stan__ | depends on how you interact with the little sistrs |
| 23:14.31 | Stan__ | *sisters |
| 23:14.32 | Pkekyo | depending on wether I harvest or resque the girls? |
| 23:14.37 | Stan__ | yesh |
| 23:14.43 | Pkekyo | how's the resque ending like? |
| 23:14.48 | Ominous | dont say |
| 23:14.51 | Stan__ | dunno |
| 23:15.13 | Pkekyo | meh, can't be arsed to play the entire game over again just to see one cinematic :< |
| 23:15.16 | Thorgard | Anyone have any issues with Bartender3 when it comes to bar-paging? Got a rogue friend who's got bar-paging setup to switch from bar 1 to 6 upon stealth, when it switches back after you unstealth (either by attacking or something else) button 4-12 on the main bar doesn't work anymore, it doesn't respond to keybinding, though it shows the key bound to the button and clicking the button doesn't do anything. A reload fixes the issue tempo |
| 23:17.57 | Pkekyo | !!SPOILER ALERT!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAB3UBMjpEs Bioshock saved little sisters ending |
| 23:17.58 | charon | Thorgard: no problems here, i'm feral, i remember an issue like that months ago but it was quickly fixed |
| 23:19.03 | Pkekyo | Thorgard: none here either...not on rogue, nor druid or warrior |
| 23:19.34 | Thorgard | Yeah.. I don't have the issue either, but they do. Trying to fix it for them 'cause they're computer-illiterate. |
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| 23:20.52 | Chompers | the good ending was better than the evil ending Pkekyo |
| 23:21.01 | Chompers | + the neutral ending |
| 23:21.19 | Pkekyo | Chompers: agreed about the evil ending...haven't seen the neutral ending yet |
| 23:21.59 | Chompers | same as evil, but new voice over |
| 23:22.03 | ckknight | Stan__: you should come up with your own name |
| 23:22.33 | Pkekyo | Chompers: what's the voiceover like then? |
| 23:22.50 | Pkekyo | evil ending would be better if we got to see what happened to that nuke... |
| 23:23.16 | Stan__ | ckknight: well..it is my own name.. |
| 23:23.26 | ckknight | no, someone else took it, apparently |
| 23:23.53 | Stan__ | well but I got that name everywhere :( |
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| 23:24.00 | Chompers | same as evil, just not as harsh |
| 23:24.33 | Pkekyo | kinda dissapointing...I played through bioshock in just one day :< |
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| 23:25.28 | Chompers | on hard? |
| 23:25.44 | Pkekyo | medium |
| 23:25.47 | Chompers | pah |
| 23:25.55 | Chompers | hard is where the real nerds go |
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| 23:26.01 | Pkekyo | true... |
| 23:26.19 | Stan__ | hard is where I die within the first minutes! |
| 23:26.47 | Pkekyo | wasn't sure if I was even gonna play through the game, so I figured it'd be better to start on medium rather than hard so I might suffer myself through it anyways, even if I didn't really want to.. |
| 23:26.57 | dabujo | ~seen Sole |
| 23:26.58 | purl | sole <n=chatzill@203.109.161.194> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 59m 32s ago, saying: 'good evening'. |
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| 23:29.49 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r48395 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/BattlegroundPvP.en.lua: |
| 23:29.49 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 23:29.49 | CIA-22 | - corrected 2 itemids in new wsg section |
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| 23:32.40 | hyperChipmunk | that last sounds like a nice feature... |
| 23:32.42 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
| 23:33.09 | CIA-22 | 03smcn * r48396 10BagPress/ (BagPress.lua BagPressLocale-enUS.lua icon.tga): |
| 23:33.09 | CIA-22 | BagPress: |
| 23:33.09 | CIA-22 | - |
| 23:33.09 | CIA-22 | *Added transparency to icon |
| 23:33.09 | CIA-22 | *Changed localization variables |
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| 23:41.06 | Pkekyo | quite possibly the worst warrior specc ever: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Terenas&n=Metallunatic |
| 23:41.55 | *** join/#wowace Jaxon (n=Jackson@S01060017f2092837.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 23:44.34 | NeoTron | Pkekyo: the 0/0/0 spec is worse |
| 23:45.18 | Pkekyo | NOTHING is worse than improved rend |
| 23:45.30 | Pkekyo | I would rather use NO talent points at all than invest a single one in improved rend |
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| 23:47.00 | Hjalte | If you are arms, I guess improved rend is not that terrible? |
| 23:48.44 | Pkekyo | improved rend is WORSE than 'that terrible' |
| 23:48.51 | Pkekyo | it's the worst talent ever created by blizzard |
| 23:49.06 | Pkekyo | completely_fucking_useless |
| 23:49.39 | hyperChipmunk | Lacerate |
| 23:49.43 | Pkekyo | the only thing one might use rend for in the first place is rogues with a vanishing fetish, but hardly anyone do that anymore either |
| 23:49.58 | hyperChipmunk | pre-1.7 hunter survival tree ultimate |
| 23:50.20 | Pkekyo | lacerate wtfbbqpwns rend anyday |
| 23:50.30 | Wobin_ | melee spec hunter |
| 23:50.43 | Pkekyo | Wobin_: they actually pack quite a punch :< |
| 23:51.00 | Wobin_ | okay, that's more an example of people who can't play =) |
| 23:51.04 | charon | Pkekyo: i suppose that's why we druids get our totally imba 4 piece t5 bonus? ;) |
| 23:51.29 | Pkekyo | charon: correct |
| 23:51.35 | hyperChipmunk | lol the old hunter lacerate isn't even in the spell db anymore |
| 23:51.53 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 23:52.00 | Wobin_ | hang on... I vaugely recall that one =) |
| 23:52.02 | Wobin_ | What did it do? |
| 23:52.09 | kadrahil | uhh |
| 23:52.11 | Pkekyo | gotta love it when someone pops talents into EVERY single weapon specc there is |
| 23:52.13 | hyperChipmunk | 121 damage over 18 seconds I think |
| 23:52.18 | Wobin_ | lol dot |
| 23:52.19 | kadrahil | did anyone else just get kicked off everything that has to do with blizzard? |
| 23:52.39 | kadrahil | world server dead, can't connect to any of their sites |
| 23:52.50 | hyperChipmunk | i don't remember the exact numbers, but it was something like that |
| 23:52.52 | Wobin_ | I remember looking at that and going... "That had better scale with -something-" |
| 23:52.58 | kadrahil | wait what. |
| 23:53.00 | hyperChipmunk | I'm pretty sure it was 7 dps though |
| 23:53.14 | Pkekyo | kadrahil: I'm still on their forums |
| 23:53.15 | kadrahil | it's back up now :( |
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| 23:53.28 | kadrahil | must be the crappy net conection |
| 23:53.41 | hyperChipmunk | didn't scale with anything =P |
| 23:55.58 | Pkekyo | I'm off...g'nite all :) |
| 23:57.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48397 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - check to see if collectgarbage('step') completes a cycle instead of just collectgarbage('collect') |
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| 23:59.32 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 07Alpha * r48398 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/ (AceTab-2.0.lua AceTab-2.0.toc AceTab-3.0.lua AceTab-3.0.toc): |
| 23:59.32 | CIA-22 | AceTab-3.0: |
| 23:59.32 | CIA-22 | - bumped version numbers, filenames, etc. |
| 23:59.32 | CIA-22 | - some comments added |
| 23:59.32 | CIA-22 | - lots of cleanup because the person who originally coded this must've been a retarded m(u)nkey |
| 23:59.34 | CIA-22 | - before anyone asks, I still don't know how/if this will fit in the Ace3 scheme, but this is where I'm putting it until something is decided |
| 23:59.39 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r48399 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 23:59.41 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 23:59.43 | CIA-22 | - removed unnecessary code |
