| 00:00.35 | Xinhuan | huh? |
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| 00:01.40 | Recluse | my chatframe :AddMessage() handler procs twice if the message was an itemlink, well that's what it appears is occuring. i'm digging deeper |
| 00:01.53 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't |
| 00:02.36 | Xinhuan | probably another addon interfering |
| 00:03.08 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48009 10LibParser-4.0/ (. LICENSE.txt LibParser-4.0.lua LibParser-4.0.toc lib.xml): |
| 00:03.08 | CIA-14 | LibParser-4.0 - initial commit. |
| 00:03.08 | CIA-14 | - This is Parser-3.0 ported to Rock. |
| 00:03.08 | CIA-14 | - This has a compatibility layer for both ParserLib (1.1) and Parser-3.0, so you'll only need to have this one to have addon which may use any of the three. |
| 00:03.08 | CIA-14 | - Note: needs testing. |
| 00:04.04 | ckknight | oh, also, LibParser-4.0 will overwrite Parser-3.0, but not Parser-1.1 |
| 00:06.30 | Xinhuan | i currently have both 3-0 and 1-1 loaded |
| 00:06.34 | Xinhuan | i think |
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| 00:07.00 | Xinhuan | any plans to merge both? |
| 00:08.25 | ckknight | Xinhuan, both what? |
| 00:08.26 | Xinhuan | SimpleCombatLog uses 1-1 and Parrot uses 3-0 i think |
| 00:08.27 | kebinusan | ckknight: Any plans to update fubar to support sharedmedia stuff like font selection and maybe bar texture |
| 00:08.34 | RaydenUni | question about gems for a shadow priest. i have 3 yellow sockets i want to put some cheap green things in. options are: int, crit, hit rating |
| 00:08.49 | ckknight | Xinhuan, yea, I tried, didn't work |
| 00:08.51 | Xinhuan | RaydenUni: spellHit until you reach spellhit cap |
| 00:09.01 | ckknight | kebinusan, seems like a good request. Would you mind filing it at jira.wowace.com? |
| 00:09.03 | Xinhuan | which is 16%. you get 6% from talents |
| 00:09.34 | kebinusan | sure I can do that |
| 00:09.38 | ckknight | thanks |
| 00:10.10 | Xinhuan | while its not a major concern, i just think its probably not good to run both 1.1 and 3.0 at the same time T_T |
| 00:10.45 | ckknight | I completely agree, Xinhuan |
| 00:11.00 | ckknight | Rophy felt differently, and since he's the author of 1.1, I'm not going to go over his head |
| 00:11.11 | Xinhuan | actually i think both libs will be obsolete by 2.4 |
| 00:11.15 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:11.19 | ckknight | yea, probably. |
| 00:11.20 | Xinhuan | patch 2.4 that is |
| 00:11.30 | ckknight | but there's one thing you gotta understand |
| 00:11.35 | ckknight | that's 6 months away. |
| 00:11.50 | Xinhuan | not sure why blizzard is taking 3 mnoths to release 2.2 |
| 00:12.08 | Stan__ | the audio chat |
| 00:12.28 | Xinhuan | still shouldn't take that long |
| 00:12.33 | Xinhuan | they can push back audio chat to 2.3 |
| 00:12.35 | Stan__ | it takes ages to get all the bugs out of it and optimize it for performance |
| 00:12.52 | Xinhuan | or 2.2.1 |
| 00:13.39 | ckknight | each patch has been about 3 months long recently |
| 00:14.35 | kebinusan | They stretch patch cycles so they can get away with fewer content patches :-) |
| 00:15.00 | ckknight | yep. |
| 00:15.24 | Xinhuan | i would prefer many small patches than few large patches |
| 00:15.40 | theoddone33 | it's kind of pathetic but I'm happy my 2v2 finally broke 1600 |
| 00:15.42 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 00:15.52 | kebinusan | Thing is they havent really seemed to have had a feature freeze on 2.2 it seems every time they patch PTR they've added somethign new |
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| 00:16.10 | Xinhuan | such as nerfing SSC trash mobs |
| 00:16.12 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:16.18 | Xinhuan | or changing the mystical skyfire proc |
| 00:16.18 | kebinusan | or buffing weapons |
| 00:16.32 | kebinusan | or arena gear swapping is out no its back in now |
| 00:16.34 | kebinusan | heh |
| 00:17.05 | Xinhuan | maybe voice chat is giving so much issues that they have time to put in all these |
| 00:17.10 | Xinhuan | next we know guild banks will be in |
| 00:17.20 | kebinusan | Id actually love for guild banks to be in |
| 00:17.29 | kebinusan | though duckie bank works ok for my guild atm |
| 00:17.29 | Stan__ | and then they tell us that they're skipping 2.2 |
| 00:17.33 | Stan__ | and go for 2.3 |
| 00:17.36 | Xinhuan | same |
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| 00:17.51 | Xinhuan | nah i just hate the fact i have to use 3 of my character slots as guild banks |
| 00:18.01 | Xinhuan | i mean i only have about 700 frozen runes in 4 bags on one of them |
| 00:21.54 | RaydenUni | is spell penetration for a pve shadow priest? |
| 00:22.02 | Xinhuan | no Ray. |
| 00:22.15 | Xinhuan | spell penetration only works on "school resists" |
| 00:22.21 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 00:22.26 | Xinhuan | meaning if the target has say 50 shadow resist, and you have 10 spell pene |
| 00:22.28 | RaydenUni | what should i be looking for in blue gems? |
| 00:22.33 | Xinhuan | then it'll be as though he has 40 |
| 00:22.34 | RaydenUni | ah |
| 00:22.42 | Xinhuan | its useful in pvp |
| 00:22.49 | Xinhuan | because of shadow aura, and shadow prot |
| 00:22.51 | RaydenUni | mp5 for blue? |
| 00:22.51 | Xinhuan | in the arena |
| 00:23.00 | Xinhuan | for blue, justget Glowing |
| 00:23.03 | Xinhuan | i.e sta/dmg |
| 00:23.20 | Xinhuan | a purple gem |
| 00:23.21 | Xinhuan | that is |
| 00:23.22 | RaydenUni | or dmg and sta |
| 00:23.33 | RaydenUni | shadow? |
| 00:23.47 | RaydenUni | oh glowing shadow |
| 00:24.02 | Xinhuan | glowing-something |
| 00:24.06 | Xinhuan | can be glowing nightseye |
| 00:24.15 | Xinhuan | glowing shadowsong amythyst |
| 00:24.19 | Xinhuan | glowing shadow draenite |
| 00:24.27 | Xinhuan | whatever |
| 00:24.56 | RaydenUni | yeah i see |
| 00:25.55 | RaydenUni | no "great" gems on my server :( |
| 00:26.07 | Xinhuan | why not? |
| 00:26.11 | Xinhuan | its a world drop |
| 00:26.13 | Xinhuan | Great Dawnstone |
| 00:26.26 | Xinhuan | and Great Lionseye from black temple |
| 00:30.40 | art3mis | can you imagine the furor from guild bank stuff if there was an error? |
| 00:30.59 | art3mis | where they fergot to set the level required to use it or something and a new recruit joined, cleaned it out and left the guild ;P |
| 00:31.22 | art3mis | it's not like they can test the guild bank properly on ptr and by properly i mean with normal guild control |
| 00:32.10 | Xinhuan | for a start, i wouldn't use it on live realms in the first week just yet hehe |
| 00:32.22 | siIentium | Xinhuan: I have ParserLib 1.1 and 3.0 (unembedded) here too (WAU thought they both were necessary due to dependancies), so I did the "disable all libs except Ace2" thing, then it automatically re-enabled 3.0 only and still everything works with 1.1 disabled |
| 00:32.32 | Xinhuan | and probably wouldn't allow anyone to take anything out of the guild bank but myself |
| 00:32.40 | Xinhuan | siIentium: i tried what you said |
| 00:32.55 | Xinhuan | parrot and SCL both fails to load because neither 1.1 nor 3.0 gets enabled automatically by Ace2 |
| 00:33.05 | Xinhuan | i had to MANUALLY enable them at the login screen |
| 00:33.07 | ckknight | 3.0 does |
| 00:33.49 | siIentium | hm, then what happens if you only enable 3.0 but not 1.1? |
| 00:33.58 | Xinhuan | then parrot loads and scl fails |
| 00:34.01 | ckknight | things work fine, 3.0 has a compat layer |
| 00:34.15 | Xinhuan | it just gives a 1.1 lib not found |
| 00:34.24 | Xinhuan | that was 1 month ago |
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| 00:34.39 | ckknight | then make sure Parser-3.0 loads before |
| 00:35.09 | Stan__ | do I need 1.1, 3.0 and 4.0 then? |
| 00:35.18 | Xinhuan | i'll go log out now and check again |
| 00:35.20 | Xinhuan | brb |
| 00:35.27 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowwiki.com/Great_Golden_Draenite <-- location of vendor unkown?! |
| 00:35.36 | Xinhuan | RaydenUni: that gem doesn't exist |
| 00:35.44 | Xinhuan | half of wowhead and thottbot are wrong |
| 00:35.51 | Xinhuan | they list a lot of things that don't exist in game |
| 00:35.56 | RaydenUni | ok... |
| 00:36.03 | Xinhuan | because some of those items exist on PTR/closed beta |
| 00:36.07 | RaydenUni | so if i want to get +spell hit rating? |
| 00:36.07 | Xinhuan | but were removed on live |
| 00:36.11 | siIentium | I guess I have other addons that load 3.0 before addons that would use it as a "replacement" for 1.1, so it works fine here, even tho there is no X-Embed or Opt-Dep entry for 3.0 on them |
| 00:36.17 | Xinhuan | you have to get Great Dawnstone |
| 00:36.24 | Xinhuan | or Veiled Noble Topa |
| 00:36.26 | Xinhuan | +z |
| 00:36.31 | ckknight | Stan__, the idea is to just need 4.0 and nothing else |
| 00:37.31 | Xinhuan | half the people that believe in wowhead screw themself because |
| 00:37.39 | siIentium | so I guess addon authors should update their addons' toc files to use 4.0 (or 3.0 for now) instead of 1.1? |
| 00:37.51 | Xinhuan | they buy mats for the "next patch enchants" for the aq40 enchants |
| 00:37.57 | Xinhuan | because all the websites now list the new mats |
| 00:38.01 | Xinhuan | but not the old ones |
| 00:39.08 | ckknight | siIentium, that's the general idea |
| 00:39.09 | Stan__ | ckknight: well but some addons will install 1.1 or 3 as a dependency |
| 00:39.32 | Stan__ | so I will have all 3 till all addons got updated to 4 |
| 00:39.59 | ckknight | Stan__, if they have 3.0 as a dependency and have 4.0 as a standalone addon, it will use 4.0 |
| 00:40.20 | Xinhuan | ok tested, i disabled 3.0 and 1.1, 3.0 enabled itself, 1.1 didn't and both scl and parrot works |
| 00:40.23 | Stan__ | but 3.0 will be installed as well |
| 00:40.39 | ckknight | it gets overwritten or not loaded at all |
| 00:40.45 | Stan__ | mkay |
| 00:40.49 | siIentium | Stan__: same here, but you can disable the older lib versions and the addons should still use the 4.0 compat layer - it "only" requires 4.0 to be loaded before the actual addon |
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| 00:41.04 | Stan__ | kk |
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| 00:42.17 | Xinhuan | ckknight: the autozips don't include parserlib-3.0 in parrot |
| 00:42.24 | ckknight | odd |
| 00:42.34 | Xinhuan | i remembe rhaving to download that manually |
| 00:42.48 | siIentium | hm, then the next logical step would be to make 3.0 disable 1.1 if it detects it being active, right? as that one doesnt need to be loaded any more at all if 3.0 is installed |
| 00:42.57 | Xinhuan | i just checked files.wowace.com, downloaded from there directly, -3.0 isn't included in the zip |
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| 00:43.57 | Xinhuan | odd |
| 00:43.59 | siIentium | altho that would only work with disembedded libs, you cant disable an embedded lib in the char selection screen |
| 00:44.28 | Xinhuan | oops sorry, i missed it, it is in the zip :) |
| 00:45.08 | ckknight | bah |
| 00:45.20 | Xinhuan | something's screwing with me tonight |
| 00:46.07 | CC--home | +any lighter based BAG mods besides baggins? |
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| 00:46.29 | Xinhuan | CC--home: can try Sanity |
| 00:47.02 | Xinhuan | or OneBag |
| 00:47.08 | Chaoslux | um, OneBag? unless you want sorting abilities |
| 00:47.57 | Chaoslux | What are the major changes between Ace2 and Ace3 ? |
| 00:47.59 | CC--home | cool thx |
| 00:48.14 | CC--home | whats a lighter based to "Recount" damn recount runs like 30MIbs for me |
| 00:48.41 | ckknight | Chaoslux, Ace3 doesn't really exist yet, so you can't say. If you'd like the changes between Ace2 and Rock, you can check http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 00:49.03 | Xinhuan | CC--home: there isn't really any "lighter" version of recount |
| 00:49.10 | Mecdemort | CC--home: you can just reset it more often |
| 00:49.25 | Xinhuan | however, you can try Violation, Recap or SWStats as alternatives |
| 00:49.33 | Xinhuan | or even Damage Meters |
| 00:49.43 | Xinhuan | but they will likely use just as much, or more memory |
| 00:50.05 | Chaoslux | Nah, i wasnt talking about Rock, its just that since yesterday ive been seeing lots of -3.0 and AceSomethin-3.0 things in either here or via CIA, so i thought you guys released Ace3 |
| 00:50.09 | Chaoslux | o.o |
| 00:50.27 | CC--home | thx |
| 00:50.50 | RaydenUni | what's normal tip for cutting a gem? |
| 00:50.51 | ckknight | Chaoslux, nope, that's the very initial stages. |
| 00:50.58 | RaydenUni | this guy is telling me 12g for great dawnstone |
| 00:51.01 | Xinhuan | RaydenUni: varies from server to server |
| 00:51.07 | Xinhuan | can't say |
| 00:51.19 | Xinhuan | on my server, the standard fee is 3g (note i said fee, not tip) |
| 00:51.19 | RaydenUni | recipe is on AH for 275g |
| 00:51.24 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 00:52.13 | CC--home | skinner takes lots of CPU?? for anyone too |
| 00:52.18 | Xinhuan | the pattern isn't that easy to get though |
| 00:52.26 | CC--home | anything like viewport on wowace.com? |
| 00:52.29 | RaydenUni | world drop |
| 00:52.34 | Xinhuan | its a world drop and must be purchased from AH |
| 00:53.36 | Chaoslux | i know my ArkInventory is taking loads of memory, around 3mb, ranks first on my PerformanceFu.... |
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| 00:54.00 | Chaoslux | But i believe its just because i use Embed libs and AI starts with an "A" hence loads lib first =/ |
| 00:54.02 | RaydenUni | i know the recipe is a lot, but 50% of the gem is a lot |
| 00:54.04 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | disconnect T_T |
| 00:54.20 | Mecdemort | is there any way to get right aligned text in dewdrop |
| 00:54.47 | abug | it's okay to nil out the 'argCheck', 'assert' and 'error' functions AceLibrary throws in a lib right? I'm not using em |
| 00:55.10 | Mecdemort | abug: it wont really make a difference |
| 00:55.15 | Xinhuan | Chaoslux: addons don't load alphabetically. |
| 00:55.26 | abug | three less references though |
| 00:55.27 | ckknight | yes, they do, Xinhuan, on Windows |
| 00:55.33 | ckknight | on Linux/Mac, they load by date |
| 00:55.35 | Xinhuan | no it doesn't ckk |
| 00:55.37 | abug | albeit small |
| 00:55.39 | Xinhuan | they load in the natural order that the operating system returns them in |
| 00:55.51 | Xinhuan | i run windows and i know for sure my addons don't load alphabetically |
| 00:55.52 | ckknight | for Windows, this is alphabetical |
| 00:56.04 | Xinhuan | !!warmup refuses to load first for eg |
| 00:56.04 | ckknight | likely because you have dependency trees |
| 00:56.26 | CC--home | anything like viewport on wowace.com? |
| 00:56.29 | Mecdemort | abug: you probably negate any difference by the space requird to set them to nil |
| 00:56.31 | Xinhuan | nope, i have addons that don't load first even if they have no dependencies |
| 00:56.52 | kergoth | it isnt always alphabetical even on windows, iirc it depends on filesystem or something |
| 00:56.59 | Xinhuan | it does not load alphabetically - for many people they load alphabetically probably becuase they run defragment software |
| 00:57.01 | Xinhuan | on their folders |
| 00:57.47 | Xinhuan | good defragment software puts files in the same folder in contiguous blocks on the harddisk as well as defragmenting files |
| 00:57.49 | Xinhuan | and that changes the order in which the OS returns the list of folders |
| 00:58.00 | kergoth | thats not why its alphabetical for a lot of people, its either the windows version or the filesystem (fat32 vs ntfs), or so |
| 00:58.10 | Xinhuan | i use FAT32 if that matters |
| 00:58.27 | Xinhuan | and i found out that my addons load in the order that /dir returns them in |
| 00:58.35 | kergoth | i think that may be the reason |
| 00:58.35 | Xinhuan | modified by dependancies |
| 00:58.43 | kergoth | its the same way when playing wow in linux |
| 00:58.50 | kergoth | i think ntfs is the one that returns em alphabetical |
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| 00:59.09 | kergoth | not sure, but thats what i've seen and heard. windows is voodoo to me |
| 00:59.11 | kergoth | :P |
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| 01:01.50 | sb | mhh - gonna test lightwell on 2.2 :p |
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| 01:02.00 | sb | wtb patch ;/ |
| 01:03.08 | Xinhuan | mystical skyfire nerfed on ptr |
| 01:03.13 | Xinhuan | so not going to use it :P |
| 01:03.44 | Antiarc | The DST got the nerf bat too :( |
| 01:03.46 | Antiarc | So sad. |
| 01:03.50 | Antiarc | And I just got mine. |
| 01:03.56 | Xinhuan | DST? |
| 01:04.01 | Antiarc | Dragonspine Trophy |
| 01:04.04 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 01:04.09 | Antiarc | On live, the best rogue trinket in the game :D |
| 01:04.09 | sb | Xinhuan: nerfed? |
| 01:04.15 | CIA-14 | 03nirek * r48010 10ElfReloaded/ElfReloaded.toc: ElfReloaded: oops, need db in the toc |
| 01:04.31 | sb | Xinhuan: i thought it is buffed to 10s? |
| 01:04.31 | Xinhuan | yeah, channeled spells now consume the proc ;p (ok ok its a bugfix that nerfs it) |
| 01:04.40 | Xinhuan | for many classes, its considered a nerf |
| 01:04.41 | sb | hmmm thats pretty nice? :o |
| 01:05.08 | Xinhuan | channeling spells didn't consume the proc previously |
| 01:05.19 | Xinhuan | so you could get off 2 drain lifes or 2 arcane missiles in that 5 secs easily |
| 01:05.23 | Xinhuan | or mind flays |
| 01:05.29 | Xinhuan | 4 secs i mean |
| 01:05.45 | sb | ahh it worked but didnt consume the proc - okay ;o |
| 01:05.47 | Chaoslux | well, my OS is on a NTFS drive, and my WoW is on a Fat32 drive, so, which one counts? |
| 01:05.50 | Xinhuan | and STILL use the proc for a 1/2ed spell like fireball |
| 01:06.00 | Xinhuan | the wow folder chaos |
| 01:06.06 | Xinhuan | not sure really |
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| 01:07.29 | Xinhuan | someone could suggest to slouken to show which addon is being loaded in progress as the "loading bar" moves from 0 to 100% :) |
| 01:07.55 | Megalon | Xinhuan: i would love that one |
| 01:08.20 | Antiarc | For what, to see where it freezes? :P |
| 01:08.33 | Xinhuan | why not? hehe |
| 01:09.09 | Garoun | hmm anyone had issues with WAU on xp32 since the most recent update? |
| 01:09.10 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48011 10LibTourist-3.0/ (. LICENSE.txt LibTourist-3.0.lua LibTourist-3.0.toc lib.xml): |
| 01:09.10 | CIA-14 | LibTourist-3.0 - initial commit. |
| 01:09.10 | CIA-14 | - same API as Tourist-2.0, only uses Rock instead. |
| 01:09.10 | CIA-14 | - use contracts instead of manual typechecking. (should make things faster) |
| 01:09.10 | CIA-14 | - rely on LibBabble-Zone-3.0 instead of Babble-Zone-2.2 |
| 01:09.34 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: can you add a 2nd threat warning level to omen? |
| 01:09.44 | Antiarc | I could, sure, but why? |
| 01:09.58 | siIentium | dont addons all get loaded at 100% only while the screen freezes and you dont get screen updates even if you alt-tab back to WoW (in windowed mode)? ;) |
| 01:10.09 | Xinhuan | would be useful to have a "warning at say 80% threat" and another one at "90%" |
| 01:10.29 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 01:10.36 | Wobwork | It's not supposed to do your job for you =P |
| 01:10.39 | Xinhuan | both thresholds can be changed of course |
| 01:10.43 | Wobwork | Just to warn you that you need to back up |
| 01:10.45 | sb | well no, 90% and 105% (or 125% vor ranged) :p |
| 01:10.50 | sb | for ranged |
| 01:10.51 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 01:10.52 | siIentium | Garoun: WAU uses a different internal ID now, so you have to remove and reinstall it |
| 01:11.02 | sb | meh... need some sleep :/ |
| 01:11.07 | Wobwork | "You' |
| 01:11.10 | Chaoslux | Garoun: About WAU, i cant install it at all now |
| 01:11.15 | Wobwork | "You're approaching aggro!" |
| 01:11.20 | Garoun | Well mine loads |
| 01:11.22 | Wobwork | "You're really approaching aggo!" |
| 01:11.23 | Xinhuan | the screen could flash "blue" on passing the first threshold and "red" on the second |
| 01:11.28 | Chaoslux | the Install_WAU.zip setup just ends up in an error at the beginning of the first fil to download |
| 01:11.30 | Garoun | it just crashes after it sitting there for 60s |
| 01:11.32 | Wobwork | "Hey, if you don't back up, I'll lock your buttons!" |
| 01:11.42 | Wobwork | "That's it, go stand in the corner!" |
| 01:11.53 | Wobwork | OMum-1.0 |
| 01:12.14 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 01:13.16 | Megalon | why not have a permanent green glow |
| 01:13.26 | Megalon | that fades to red from 90% to 110%? :P |
| 01:13.41 | Chaoslux | and come back green at 111% ? |
| 01:13.47 | siIentium | Garoun: dunno what to do then, I only did that manual reinstall thing about 3 hours ago on my XP32 machine and it successfully removed the "WAU vanishes into thin air after a few seconds" phenomenon from the old version |
| 01:13.54 | Megalon | yea |
| 01:14.05 | Megalon | but only your "Release" button will glow green |
| 01:14.06 | siIentium | altho I didnt use the zip but the clickonce website using IEtab |
| 01:14.06 | Wobwork | Chaoslux: goes back to green? |
| 01:14.10 | Garoun | oh, mine is a full fledged crash with memdump :) |
| 01:14.17 | Xinhuan | i just thought it would be useful to have 2 warning thresholds so i can say "i can dps as hard as i want" and "i'm approaching the 115%, i'm gonna slow down, maybe evocate instead" and "almost pulling aggro, oh shit!" |
| 01:14.19 | Wobwork | Sort of saying "Well stuff it, you're screwed now" |
| 01:14.35 | Chaoslux | lol |
| 01:14.43 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: you should be doing that at 115 =P |
| 01:14.51 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 01:14.53 | Megalon | "sit back and relax for the rest of the fight"-mode |
| 01:14.54 | Chaoslux | Well, anywya, nice talking with ya today guys, might come back later |
| 01:15.02 | Wobwork | Actually, at 120% it should turn your screen black |
| 01:15.02 | Chaoslux | for now, DotA calls <<;; |
| 01:15.05 | Wobwork | completely |
| 01:15.08 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r48012 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: |
| 01:15.08 | CIA-14 | .Sink-1.0: |
| 01:15.08 | CIA-14 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 01:15.12 | Megalon | even for the tanks |
| 01:15.14 | Megalon | :DD |
| 01:15.42 | Wobwork | Well if you're the tank, and you're doing 120% of the tank... then -something's- wrong =P |
| 01:15.58 | Xinhuan | not for warlock tanks =P |
| 01:16.05 | Xinhuan | (leotheras) |
| 01:16.06 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r48013 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: |
| 01:16.06 | CIA-14 | .Sink-1.0: |
| 01:16.06 | CIA-14 | - Fixed localization koKR |
| 01:16.14 | Megalon | na, i mean, if someone passes your threat by 120% |
| 01:16.20 | Megalon | your screen turns black :P |
| 01:16.28 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48014 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0 - fix bug with library upgrades |
| 01:16.29 | Wobwork | Again, if you're the tank, and you're outthreating -yourself- by 120% then somethings wrong =P |
| 01:16.32 | Megalon | to give it that little spin |
| 01:16.48 | Wobwork | you can't hit 120% threat unless you're -not- the tank |
| 01:16.48 | siIentium | Garoun: which WAU version do you have atm? mine is 1.9.44.28121 after the manual reinstallation |
| 01:17.14 | Stan__ | 44.654 is correct |
| 01:17.41 | WobWork | Actually, if the tank goes black |
| 01:17.47 | WobWork | it'll make learning a whole lot faster |
| 01:17.54 | siIentium | ah true, sorry, I mixed it up with the assembly version |
| 01:17.54 | WobWork | cause if you outthreat, the tank loses all sight |
| 01:17.56 | WobWork | and you get ganked |
| 01:18.04 | WobWork | Education at it's finest =P |
| 01:18.05 | Garoun | 1.9.44.652 |
| 01:18.13 | Garoun | and an update just got pushed to me |
| 01:18.53 | Xinhuan | afk a while |
| 01:19.19 | Garoun | I had just done a reinstall from the site, so we'll see if the 654 crashes |
| 01:19.43 | siIentium | ok, good luck then |
| 01:19.58 | siIentium | I'm off for now, bed calls |
| 01:20.04 | Garoun | have a good one |
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| 01:24.25 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48015 10LibAbacus-3.0/ (. LICENSE.txt LibAbacus-3.0.lua LibAbacus-3.0.toc lib.xml): |
| 01:24.25 | CIA-14 | LibAbacus-3.0 - initial commit. |
| 01:24.25 | CIA-14 | - same API as Abacus-2.0, only uses Rock instead. |
| 01:24.25 | CIA-14 | - use contracts instead of manual typechecking. (should make things faster) |
| 01:26.16 | Recluse | well, i tracked it down partially. :AddMessage(){MyFunc()} gets called twice only if the message is a whisper or in /say >.> |
| 01:26.41 | Recluse | without wavys o.O too much php |
| 01:26.45 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48016 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0 - remove a few old :argCheck calls |
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| 01:31.28 | Recluse | oh wow i figured it out and it wasn't my addon's fault (for the most part) |
| 01:32.30 | Recluse | i used to have three chatframes, and /say and whispers showed in the third. i created a new chat window and it had my old settings... removed those, and now :AddMessage() only calls once |
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| 01:34.20 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48017 10LibCrayon-3.0/ (. LICENSE.txt LibCrayon-3.0.lua LibCrayon-3.0.toc lib.xml): |
| 01:34.20 | CIA-14 | LibCrayon-3.0 - initial commit. |
| 01:34.20 | CIA-14 | - same API as Abacus-2.0, only uses Rock instead. |
| 01:34.20 | CIA-14 | - use contracts instead of manual typechecking. (should make things faster) |
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| 01:39.41 | Neebler | quite ambitious ckknight. you're like linus torvald |
| 01:39.49 | ckknight | how so? |
| 01:39.59 | Neebler | doing it all by yourself |
| 01:40.03 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 01:40.08 | ckknight | I'm updating my own libraries |
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| 01:40.19 | Neebler | well not that. just the fact that you made them all |
| 01:40.20 | ckknight | setting up proper infrastructure and all |
| 01:40.23 | ckknight | oh, yea |
| 01:40.51 | MajorPayne_ | is ther place to find artworks for eepanels? |
| 01:40.57 | MajorPayne_ | one site |
| 01:41.15 | Stan__ | hm ckknight will all the libs go into one folder? cause having all the libs mixed up with the "normal" addons in you interface folder might be a bit confusing? |
| 01:41.36 | ckknight | can't do it, Stan__, not with Blizzard's system |
| 01:41.44 | ckknight | also, all the libs start with "Lib", so not a huge deal |
| 01:41.51 | Stan__ | mkay |
| 01:50.20 | CIA-14 | 03mikk * r48018 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
| 01:50.20 | CIA-14 | LibStub: |
| 01:50.20 | CIA-14 | - Remove $Revision$ magic from LibStub. TOTALLY inappropriate since it needs to work in other repos! |
| 01:50.20 | CIA-14 | ~slap Kaelten |
| 01:50.20 | purl | ACTION slaps Kaelten, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 01:50.58 | CIA-14 | 03recluse * r48019 10TextSpy/ (code/TextSpy.lua embeds.xml): |
| 01:50.58 | CIA-14 | TextSpy: hook migration |
| 01:50.58 | CIA-14 | - Now hooking chatframes with AceHook |
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| 01:56.38 | Gnarfoz | it's kept in other repos, too oO |
| 01:56.50 | clad|away | Gn? |
| 01:56.52 | clad|away | Gnarfoz: ? |
| 01:57.39 | ckknight | Gnarfoz, well, minimally, other libraries include it. I took out the $Revision$ bits and made it literal numbers for what I've done |
| 01:58.10 | Gnarfoz | I simply don't understand the "it needs to work in other repos" :> |
| 01:58.15 | Seppidane | hey there, I just configured my Pitbull's "Main Tank" and "Main Tank's Target" frames. But.... how do I tell Pitbull that "Player X, Y and Z" are Maintanks ? |
| 01:58.18 | clad|away | it will belong in other repositories. |
| 01:58.27 | clad|away | and they need to be able to upgrade different versions |
| 01:59.39 | clad|away | Gnarfoz: LibStub coming from this svn is rev'd 40,000+ |
| 01:59.42 | ckknight | Seppidane, well, Main Tanks are determined either by CTRA, oRA, or by Blizzard's sytem |
| 01:59.57 | clad|away | LibStub when it's used in my addons SVN.. will be.. 80 |
| 02:00.06 | Seppidane | ckknight: so there is a dependency, ok.. thank you :) |
| 02:00.07 | Recluse | the default ui can setup mt's? i had no idea XD |
| 02:00.10 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48020 10LibRollCall-2.0/ (5 files): |
| 02:00.10 | CIA-14 | LibRollCall-2.0 - initial commit. |
| 02:00.10 | CIA-14 | - same API as RollCall-1.0, only uses Rock instead. |
| 02:00.10 | CIA-14 | - use contracts instead of manual typechecking. (should make things faster) |
| 02:00.10 | CIA-14 | - also use built-in recycling functions. |
| 02:00.22 | ckknight | yea, Recluse, kinda sucks, though |
| 02:00.28 | Gnarfoz | ah, so it can be used as an external in other repos |
| 02:00.32 | Gnarfoz | I get it ^^ |
| 02:00.36 | clad|away | not as an external |
| 02:00.42 | clad|away | its just 70 lines of public domain code |
| 02:00.43 | Seppidane | Recluse: i searched for such an MT option in Blizzards UI... without success. |
| 02:00.52 | Recluse | i haven't raided since december so i guess it's something new? |
| 02:00.55 | clad|away | it will be outright copied and put into other code repos. |
| 02:01.15 | ckknight | clad|away, more like 30 |
| 02:01.34 | clad|away | its shrunk! |
| 02:01.38 | ckknight | sure has |
| 02:02.44 | Xinhuan | Seppidane: you need to have (L) or (A). when you do, right click on people's name in the blizzard raid frame |
| 02:03.12 | Seppidane | Xinhuan: thanks alot, I'll check it out. |
| 02:03.20 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48021 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - upgrade to LibStub r2 |
| 02:03.37 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48022 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - upgrade to LibStub r2 |
| 02:04.14 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48023 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0 - upgrade to LibStub r2 |
| 02:04.36 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48024 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 - upgrade to LibStub r2 |
| 02:05.30 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48025 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - upgrade to LibStub r2 |
| 02:05.49 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48026 10LibGratuity-3.0/LibGratuity-3.0.lua: LibGratuity-3.0 - upgrade to LibStub r2 |
| 02:06.25 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48027 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua: LibSharedMedia-2.0 - upgrade to LibStub r2 |
| 02:06.31 | ckknight | and that's all of it |
| 02:06.41 | Recluse | =) |
| 02:06.50 | Xinhuan | orly |
| 02:06.53 | ckknight | yarly |
| 02:08.06 | Seppidane | lol, I just tried to set my group mate as an MT via the Blizzard UI. Guess what... "Pitbull has been blocked from an action only available to the blizzard UI. You can disable this addon and reload the UI." |
| 02:08.23 | Recluse | eep |
| 02:08.24 | ckknight | no colors |
| 02:08.31 | ckknight | and I blame gnomes. |
| 02:09.19 | [BotB]Imperium | hey guys i have a problem with Omen -- No matter how many times i delete the folder and reinstall and delete my .lua settings in the WTF folder, I can only see myself and my pet on the threat meter... i've reset profile etc |
| 02:09.23 | MajorPayne_ | is there a place for artwork for eepanels? |
| 02:09.30 | ckknight | not that I know of, MajorPayne_ |
| 02:09.31 | [BotB]Imperium | and threat is kindof important when trying to progress in BT |
| 02:09.45 | MajorPayne_ | that is too bad - I really like it |
| 02:09.46 | ckknight | [BotB]Imperium, do your guildmates have Omen? |
| 02:10.03 | ckknight | you all have to have it for it to work |
| 02:10.09 | ckknight | or another compliant Threat-1.0 addon |
| 02:11.21 | Xinhuan | omen can only display threat data from other KTM / Omen users in the same raid |
| 02:11.42 | Seppidane | ckknight: "04:09:54 Decursive: The add-on PitBull tried to use the forbidden function: SetPartyAssignment()" <--- chat message if I try to set a raid member as an MT via blizzards UI. |
| 02:12.02 | Xinhuan | Seppidane: reload your UI |
| 02:12.03 | ckknight | yea, that's not actually PitBull |
| 02:12.20 | Seppidane | brb |
| 02:12.25 | Xinhuan | reload and try again that is |
| 02:12.32 | AmadeoFi | I need a Windows pro to help me undo the stuff I kinda broke :P |
| 02:12.54 | Xinhuan | what did you break? |
| 02:13.38 | Wobwor1 | 1) Reboot |
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| 02:14.04 | AmadeoFi | Well, not sure I'd say it's broken yet..but it can't be good :P I was trying to find another driver that would work for this wireless pcmcia card, but the ones I found weren't compatible..but I guess Windows copies them over to system32 and such anyways, and it would be nice to get rid of those |
| 02:14.09 | Wobwor1 | 2) check that you have turned the computer on |
| 02:14.19 | Wobwor1 | 3) Check that you have the intelligence to run Windows |
| 02:14.22 | Wobwor1 | 4) Reboot |
| 02:14.22 | Xinhuan | windows allows you to "rollback" |
| 02:14.25 | Wobwor1 | 5) Reboot |
| 02:14.25 | Xinhuan | could try that |
| 02:14.40 | Xinhuan | rollback drivers that is |
| 02:14.49 | MajorPayne_ | Or even system restore |
| 02:15.28 | AmadeoFi | also, in device manager my pcmcia card says it's #4 now, and I only have one :P |
| 02:15.45 | Seppidane | as long as the driver isn't wrongly loaded there is nothing to worry about, just leave it in system32 |
| 02:16.33 | Xinhuan | the numbering doesn't matter |
| 02:17.26 | AmadeoFi | I'm just anticipating problems in the future because of either, so I was going to try to revert to how it was, lol |
| 02:17.35 | ckknight | hrm, I'm thinking of redoing LibRoster-3.0 from scratch... |
| 02:18.06 | ckknight | there's issues with it |
| 02:18.11 | ckknight | especially in battlegrounds |
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| 02:21.13 | Seppidane | Xinhuan: I reloaded the UI, result: error message gone but my raid frames and main tank frames dissapeared. So I restarted the wow client, and now the error message is back again. |
| 02:22.15 | Xinhuan | not sure then |
| 02:22.23 | Xinhuan | could be any number of addons causing the issue |
| 02:22.47 | Seppidane | :( |
| 02:22.48 | Xinhuan | you could verify that it isn't pitbull itself by disabling all addons except pitbull |
| 02:22.50 | Seppidane | thx anyway |
| 02:23.00 | Seppidane | will do, brb |
| 02:25.18 | Seppidane | btw, I'm running a standalone setup due to performance analysis. Could this cause such an error ? |
| 02:26.13 | Xinhuan | not sure what you mean |
| 02:26.35 | Seppidane | ok, guess its the language barrier. I'll try to explain. |
| 02:27.35 | Seppidane | I have set my wowaceupdater to "Download Dependencies" and dowloaded all addons using the "Download Addons without Externals" |
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| 02:28.01 | Seppidane | know what I mean ? :) |
| 02:28.15 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 02:29.04 | Xinhuan | that will have 0 effect |
| 02:29.07 | Seppidane | ok |
| 02:29.11 | Xinhuan | on the addon tainting |
| 02:29.24 | Xinhuan | since the only thing that changes is the loading order of the addons |
| 02:29.30 | Xinhuan | and the libraries |
| 02:29.35 | Xinhuan | and the number of times each library gets loaded |
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| 02:32.19 | Seppidane | Ok, I disabled every addon expect for the "Libs:" ones. |
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| 02:33.02 | Seppidane | blizzards UI is still blocking Pitbull if I click "Promote to Main Tank" |
| 02:33.06 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 071.0 * r48028 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
| 02:33.06 | CIA-14 | LibStub: |
| 02:33.06 | CIA-14 | - Fixed minor revision from being a svn keyword is now a literal numeral. |
| 02:33.16 | Xinhuan | you'll best ask ckknight about it then ;p |
| 02:33.33 | ckknight | what's all this then? |
| 02:33.42 | ckknight | Seppidane, disable PitBull and see what happens |
| 02:34.02 | Xinhuan | Seppidane says pitbull blocks promotion of MT in blizzard's UI, with just Libs and pitbull loaded |
| 02:34.37 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:34.45 | ckknight | that's odd, shouldn't do that |
| 02:35.01 | ckknight | nevertheless, I'm gonna say that Blizzard's MT system is pretty flawed |
| 02:35.05 | ckknight | and recommend oRA instead |
| 02:35.26 | Seppidane | http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs219&d=07361&f=WoWScrnShot_090307_043514.jpg |
| 02:35.54 | Seppidane | guess I have to install oRA, one more addon I don't want :) |
| 02:36.06 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 02:36.06 | Xinhuan | why do you need to setup the MTs for? |
| 02:36.14 | ckknight | yea, why do you need it? |
| 02:36.16 | Xinhuan | most raids and guilds dont even use that |
| 02:36.37 | Xinhuan | if there's only 1 boss and 2 tanks, everyone knows to heal the 2 tanks, or to target the boss and kill it |
| 02:36.50 | Xinhuan | is there really a need for a MT button? |
| 02:37.11 | Seppidane | I was thinking it might be a nice help for trash mobs. |
| 02:37.22 | Seppidane | however, I don't need it actually. |
| 02:37.24 | Xinhuan | you use raid icons for that |
| 02:37.31 | Xinhuan | then assign a tank to each icon to tank |
| 02:37.48 | Xinhuan | then just say on vent : kill Star, Circle, Triangle in this order, sheep Square, banish X |
| 02:37.48 | Seppidane | I remeber we used MT targets in Molten Core, ages ago.. :p |
| 02:38.08 | Xinhuan | MT targets were needed in the past only because there were no raid symbols |
| 02:38.15 | Xinhuan | like Garr adds |
| 02:38.20 | Xinhuan | were indistinguisable |
| 02:38.48 | Wobwor1 | SFWA: "you have been found guilty by the elders of our town by uttering the name of our {lord|client}, and so as a {blasphemer|pirate}, you are to be {stoned to death|banned from the interwebs}!" Dude in shackles: "look, [...] all i said [...] was, 'that piece of halibut was good enough for {jehova|asimov}'." |
| 02:39.47 | Xinhuan | so in the past, when you had to kill adds in a certain order, you had to say "kill A's add first, then B's add, then C's add" where A B and C are the tanks |
| 02:40.57 | Seppidane | yeah, you're right. |
| 02:43.16 | Gnarfoz | MT frames *could* be used for healing or whatever |
| 02:43.38 | Gnarfoz | or picking your target |
| 02:43.53 | Xinhuan | you would just use focus frames for that |
| 02:43.57 | Xinhuan | and focus target frames |
| 02:44.08 | Xinhuan | or for general healing, any raid frame addon |
| 02:45.56 | Gnarfoz | err right |
| 02:46.16 | Gnarfoz | I could as well use MT frames, they're the same frames as raid frames and focus frames ;D |
| 02:46.50 | Seppidane | is it possible to set up more than one focus target ? |
| 02:46.54 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 02:46.57 | Seppidane | ok |
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| 02:47.41 | Seppidane | Pitbull is incredible powerfull. |
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| 02:49.58 | ckknight_ | blah |
| 02:50.23 | Seppidane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaNRSZ-Ga-w |
| 02:50.28 | Seppidane | I love that! |
| 02:50.49 | Seppidane | One of the funniest things I've heard in 2007. |
| 02:51.33 | Seppidane | besides sarah silvermann's paris hilton joke on the MTV Movie Awars this year :p |
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| 02:55.08 | CIA-14 | .TheEye : |
| 02:55.08 | CIA-14 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 03:01.26 | Chompers | you gain + 10 rage |
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| 03:17.30 | orionshock | morning all |
| 03:17.42 | ckknight | hey orionshock |
| 03:17.47 | [Liquidor] | morning |
| 03:17.49 | [Liquidor] | and nn |
| 03:17.54 | [Liquidor] | 5am here and dead tired |
| 03:18.01 | orionshock | hehe... |
| 03:23.01 | orionshock | well ; hehe... seems like cow tip has some frame-work name change bugs to still work out :D |
| 03:23.52 | art3mis | rock rock rock n roll highschool |
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| 03:30.47 | ckknight | orionshock, it does? |
| 03:31.17 | orionshock | just grabed the latest off the branches folder for cow tip w/ externals |
| 03:31.21 | ckknight | yea |
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| 03:31.28 | orionshock | Shared media puked up an error |
| 03:31.46 | orionshock | and so did trying to move the anchor on cow tip |
| 03:31.51 | Antiarc | I'm going to be so sad when the haste nerf goes in |
| 03:31.59 | Antiarc | Because I just blew Vashj the hell up. |
| 03:32.14 | ckknight | what was the error, orionshock? |
| 03:32.25 | ckknight | fun, Antiarc |
| 03:32.25 | orionshock | CowTip-r47996\Position\Position.lua:278: attempt to index global 'anchorValidate' (a nil value) |
| 03:32.38 | orionshock | LibSharedMedia-2.0\LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua:102: attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) |
| 03:32.41 | Antiarc | 1200 DPS sustained for 10 minutes. |
| 03:32.43 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.32 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48030 10CowTip/CowTip/Position/Position.lua: CowTip - fix typo with anchorValidate => anchorChoices |
| 03:34.05 | ckknight | nice, Antiarc |
| 03:34.14 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48031 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua: LibSharedMedia-2.0 - fix global self issue. |
| 03:34.18 | ckknight | orionshock, try that |
| 03:34.33 | kergoth | ckknight, that a libstub sharedmedia? |
| 03:35.11 | kergoth | Antiarc, nice |
| 03:35.18 | kergoth | Antiarc, whats the armory link to your char? |
| 03:36.10 | Antiarc | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Adrine |
| 03:36.21 | orionshock | ive got a few co-workers on CC |
| 03:36.59 | Antiarc | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=4iaqfpur2qk6w&s=7596-8176 :D |
| 03:39.24 | ckknight | yes, kergoth |
| 03:39.29 | orionshock | ckknight: did u take out all the dogTag display stuff? or did i miss something? |
| 03:39.35 | ckknight | orionshock, no, I didn't |
| 03:39.45 | ckknight | orionshock, your old settings might not be there |
| 03:39.49 | ckknight | if that's what you're asking |
| 03:39.51 | orionshock | it's not showing for me at all |
| 03:39.58 | ckknight | any errors? |
| 03:40.04 | orionshock | it's just giving me the default tool tip , no errors |
| 03:40.13 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:40.20 | ckknight | turn off !BugGrabber/BugSack if you have em |
| 03:40.31 | kergoth | ckknight, nice, iw as thinking about doing that. does it convert the old one's data? |
| 03:40.40 | ckknight | kergoth, sure does |
| 03:41.01 | ckknight | kergoth, lazily picks up AceEvent if available (which both Surface and SML-1.0 use) |
| 03:41.09 | kergoth | nice |
| 03:41.16 | kergoth | i did that with a dongelstub version of the lib |
| 03:41.20 | kergoth | but got lazy an dnever did anything with it |
| 03:41.20 | ckknight | kergoth, I did a shitload of library porting today |
| 03:41.21 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:41.27 | kergoth | glad to hear it |
| 03:41.27 | ckknight | whether to framework-agnostic or to Rock |
| 03:41.36 | ckknight | LibDogTag-2.0 is agnostic |
| 03:41.41 | ckknight | LibGratuity-2.0 is agnostic |
| 03:41.52 | ckknight | most others use Rock for one reason or another |
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| 03:42.12 | orionshock | agnostic? |
| 03:42.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+v WobWork] by ChanServ |
| 03:42.19 | ckknight | non-Ace/Dongle/Rock |
| 03:42.25 | ckknight | standalone |
| 03:42.55 | WobWork | Not believing in any One True Framework |
| 03:43.07 | orionshock | Message: ...rface\AddOns\CowTip\libs\LibRock-1.0\LibRock-1.0.lua line 2435: attempt to call a nil value |
| 03:44.19 | ckknight | ah dammit |
| 03:44.20 | ckknight | found it |
| 03:44.46 | ckknight | the issue was: Fucking Windows |
| 03:44.55 | orionshock | there is more - i'll colate and PM them to you |
| 03:48.07 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r48032 10Cartographer_Data/ (Herbalism.lua Treasure.lua): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update |
| 03:48.26 | ckknight | incoming commit |
| 03:50.09 | ckknight | should also fix the !BugGrabber/BugSack issues, which are weird. |
| 03:50.25 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48033 10/trunk/ (11 files in 10 dirs): |
| 03:50.25 | CIA-14 | .LibRock*-1.0 - remove stray "" at the end of lua files. (Thank you, Windows). |
| 03:50.25 | CIA-14 | LibRock-1.0 - make !BugGrabber and !Swatter optional deps, so they load before. |
| 03:51.59 | ZealotOnAStick | I like the Vashj fight. |
| 03:52.09 | Antiarc | Vashj is a freaking fun fight |
| 03:52.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, when people aren't fucking noobing it up and getting themselves killed stupidly. |
| 03:52.15 | Antiarc | Just requires a ton of communication |
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| 03:52.51 | kergoth | Antiarc, nice gear :) |
| 03:52.53 | orionshock | ckknight: where did u commit to, trunk or branches? |
| 03:52.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Most of BT seems easy after Kael'thas. *grumble* about having to kill him again and again to key new apps. |
| 03:53.14 | Corey | can i get a link to the new cowtip? |
| 03:53.24 | Antiarc | Ignore the trinkets, kergoth >_> |
| 03:53.29 | kergoth | i did :P |
| 03:53.36 | orionshock | Corey: u got a SVN program? |
| 03:53.37 | ckknight | orionshock, turnk |
| 03:53.39 | ckknight | trunk* |
| 03:53.43 | Corey | can't say i do |
| 03:54.09 | ckknight | Corey, if you get an svn program, you can get it from http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/CowTip/Rock/CowTip |
| 03:54.56 | orionshock | .. ok so rock is in the trunk now, but the new version of cow tip is still in the branches |
| 03:55.11 | ckknight | yes. |
| 03:55.24 | ckknight | since the old Ace2 version is in trunk |
| 03:55.27 | ckknight | it's stable |
| 03:55.36 | orionshock | now read what i type out ... and think about that.. |
| 03:55.52 | Antiarc | I can't say I'm happy about it, but I have to agree: melee haste needed a nerf |
| 03:55.56 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:56.14 | Antiarc | Because I got my DST and Netherblade hat with the haste gem in 1 week, and my DPS went up by like 250 sustained in a raid |
| 03:56.44 | Corey | whats a good svn program for windows |
| 03:56.49 | ckknight | TortoiseSVN |
| 03:56.52 | Corey | thanks |
| 03:57.12 | orionshock | ah wth, im still getting errors, and it hates dog tag too >.> |
| 03:57.13 | kergoth | s/good/least crappy/ |
| 03:57.18 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: it is easy, until shahraz anyway |
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| 03:57.40 | ckknight | orionshock, gimme errors |
| 03:57.58 | orionshock | hehe.. maybe i should reload the game and try again.. one sec |
| 03:58.50 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.35 | ckknight | can't log into WoW |
| 03:59.39 | ckknight | which is why you're my guinea ig |
| 03:59.40 | ckknight | pig* |
| 03:59.43 | orionshock | lol, why not? |
| 03:59.48 | ckknight | on my mom's comp |
| 03:59.51 | ckknight | mine is in the shop |
| 03:59.53 | orionshock | hehe.. |
| 03:59.59 | kergoth | i'd like to revamp the way overrides are handled in sharedmedia, its .. meh |
| 04:00.15 | ckknight | kergoth, ASAP would be best, before people start using it heavily |
| 04:00.23 | kergoth | i'd rather see an addon that uses it provide a list of explicit selections, or a 'default (bantobar)' option which uses a global override if set |
| 04:00.32 | Corey | this program is makin me restart to use it, brb |
| 04:00.34 | kergoth | so you could set your globbal override, but override the override on a per addon basis |
| 04:00.37 | kergoth | also, overrides is the wrong word for it |
| 04:00.39 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:00.58 | ckknight | global default? |
| 04:00.59 | orionshock | "Global Default" sounds better |
| 04:01.02 | orionshock | lol |
| 04:01.04 | kergoth | indeed |
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| 04:01.47 | orionshock | god..i got a a shit load of mods... |
| 04:02.46 | kergoth | i got my addon set down to 269! |
| 04:02.48 | CIA-14 | 03recluse * r48034 10TextSpy/ (code/TextSpy.lua localization/TextSpyLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 04:02.48 | CIA-14 | TextSpy: case sensing |
| 04:02.48 | CIA-14 | - Added option for case sensitivity to provide more control over pattern matching |
| 04:02.53 | RogueShadow | I hate windows. It does lot's of crap. |
| 04:03.27 | RogueShadow | Once I accidentally copied my startup folder to my desktop, it's now permanent there. cant' move it. |
| 04:03.50 | Recluse | can move it in safe mode? |
| 04:03.59 | RogueShadow | hmm. good question |
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| 04:05.11 | Recluse | i hate when i walk over to the coffee pot and realize i never started brewing it yet |
| 04:06.04 | Corey | ok i installed that svn thing what was the link again? |
| 04:06.18 | orionshock | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/CowTip/Rock/CowTip |
| 04:06.22 | Corey | cheers |
| 04:06.35 | orionshock | go to your /interface/addon folder delete everything in /cowtip |
| 04:06.40 | orionshock | leave the folder there |
| 04:06.51 | orionshock | right click "SVN Checkout" |
| 04:07.36 | orionshock | past it in there, make sure the paths are correct and .. give it a min or 2 |
| 04:07.58 | orionshock | then again he's debuging it atm w/ me so you may want to hold off on that |
| 04:08.01 | Kaelten | why does my ret pally suck :( |
| 04:08.28 | orionshock | ... Kaelten : ret stands for retarted... it's sad but true |
| 04:08.58 | Recluse | XD i'm leveling mine as holy the whole way up, tho people said that's even more retarded |
| 04:09.08 | WobWork | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/tag/zero+punctuation |
| 04:09.10 | orionshock | pallys in general are |
| 04:09.13 | WobWork | I like his reviewing style |
| 04:09.44 | Corey | wow i never knew about this before lol |
| 04:12.30 | Corey | i got an error in my bug sack too |
| 04:12.52 | Kaelten | I'm debating respecing into prot |
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| 04:14.00 | Kaelten | do prot pally's make good tanks? |
| 04:14.03 | orionshock | like i said corey , ckknight is unPhooking it |
| 04:14.11 | orionshock | Good Players make good prot pallys |
| 04:14.26 | Corey | ok |
| 04:14.31 | Corey | ill sit here and wait till its ready :D |
| 04:14.33 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 04:14.43 | Kaelten | well assuming I'm a good player |
| 04:15.01 | Corey | i never like healing prot pallies |
| 04:15.02 | orionshock | prot pallys are IMHO good for 4+ mob tanking ; but they are a little squishie |
| 04:15.10 | Corey | they always think they're great but most aren't |
| 04:15.35 | Kaelten | I have this 64 pally I'd like to make the best of :s |
| 04:15.44 | Kaelten | I don't raid much and I group with a 64 hunter all the time |
| 04:16.10 | Kaelten | she ends up tanking half the time because she out dpsing me |
| 04:18.31 | orionshock | why do i have this feeling that you can't Chainload libs with xml files? |
| 04:18.53 | Kaelten | hrm/ |
| 04:20.25 | orionshock | CowTip.toc references the embeds.xml file, it then references the lib.xml file for LibDogTag-2.0 witch then references the actual .lua file that is the lib |
| 04:21.08 | Kaelten | thats doable |
| 04:22.01 | Corey | mine was lookin for a liblibdogtag not libdogtag |
| 04:22.12 | orionshock | LOL |
| 04:22.18 | orionshock | oh yeah bad typo |
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| 04:26.57 | orionshock | Kaelten: tbh it sounds conveluded to load libs in that fasion |
| 04:27.39 | Kaelten | depends |
| 04:27.57 | Kaelten | it does depend on whats going on |
| 04:28.33 | orionshock | then again alot around here sounds conveluded |
| 04:29.33 | break19 | well.. the wife is havin the baby... either tonight, or tomorrow, they're inducing. she's bout 3wks early, but her water is broke.. |
| 04:30.21 | break19 | im just here lettin the dogs out, and eatin. while the dogs do their thing, I figured I'd spread the word.. no cigars yet tho, not til after.. bad luck. :) |
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| 04:32.54 | ckknight | Kaelten, I'm a prot pally |
| 04:33.19 | orionshock | btw ck i got more errors for you :D |
| 04:34.16 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48035 10CowTip/CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip - fix LibLibDogTag-2.0 thing. |
| 04:34.19 | ckknight | nuh uh |
| 04:34.28 | orionshock | oh i fixed that allready |
| 04:34.31 | orionshock | localy |
| 04:34.33 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:34.35 | ckknight | what else, then? |
| 04:34.41 | ckknight | thanks, btw |
| 04:34.59 | ckknight | break19, grats |
| 04:35.13 | break19 | thankya |
| 04:35.19 | orionshock | np, not often u'll find someone else that is useful with decoding and sotra knows what to do. |
| 04:35.40 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:35.50 | break19 | well, I need to make that 'sammich' and let the dogs back in.. *waves* see ya'll in a day or so :) |
| 04:36.33 | Corey | so its fine now? |
| 04:36.37 | orionshock | no |
| 04:36.40 | Corey | ok |
| 04:36.41 | Corey | lol |
| 04:37.08 | orionshock | corey, just go back to the main trunk version; the rock'ed one dosn't have any different features |
| 04:37.21 | ckknight | actually it does, orionshock |
| 04:37.26 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48036 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - add a check |
| 04:37.27 | orionshock | shh |
| 04:37.35 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:37.55 | ckknight | bah, I want my comp back |
| 04:37.58 | ckknight | so that I can test this myself |
| 04:38.32 | orionshock | tbh ckknight one day i almost said out loud to another that you code addons not for the sake of coding but for the publicity :D |
| 04:38.59 | ckknight | nah, it's for the code, the publicity is just a nice side effect |
| 04:39.06 | ckknight | granted, it has bad side effects, too |
| 04:39.08 | ckknight | like drama |
| 04:39.41 | Corey | its not real drama unless its on youtube :P |
| 04:39.47 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:39.56 | orionshock | .. that could be fixed, don't tempt ppl |
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| 04:40.13 | ckknight | my youtube series is satire, though |
| 04:40.50 | orionshock | wow my interweb is being retarted now |
| 04:41.06 | Corey | i donno orionshock might be funny to see somebodies stick drawings of IRC drama :D |
| 04:41.11 | orionshock | or my svn is being bitchie |
| 04:41.29 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:41.58 | orionshock | oh god in that case can we bring up the old wonds, im sure we can dig up the irc logs arround clad and tk |
| 04:42.13 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:42.16 | ckknight | ~logs |
| 04:42.17 | purl | well, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 04:42.31 | orionshock | "IRC Drama of WoWAce and friends" |
| 04:42.55 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:44.42 | orionshock | didn't work purl, |
| 04:45.41 | ckknight | what address did you try? |
| 04:46.02 | orionshock | whoops forgot to add stats |
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| 04:46.32 | orionshock | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/%23wowace.html.gz |
| 04:46.35 | orionshock | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowace.html.gz |
| 04:46.39 | ckknight | don't do the %23 |
| 04:46.40 | TrixIsOwned | my ui sucks :O:O:O http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/g3nam/chris/WoW/WoWScrnShot_082707_205513.jpg HELP ME FIX IT! |
| 04:46.50 | ckknight | dude, indoor voice |
| 04:47.01 | TrixIsOwned | :< |
| 04:47.03 | TrixIsOwned | indeed. |
| 04:47.12 | ckknight | my irc client won't let me copy-paste for some ungodly reason |
| 04:47.47 | orionshock | ya TrixIsOwned you are own'ed and that ui does suck, but dude, ur 23, use default till 50 |
| 04:47.56 | TrixIsOwned | nein! |
| 04:48.00 | ckknight | no way, guy |
| 04:48.05 | TrixIsOwned | i dont like default :O |
| 04:48.09 | ckknight | I started messing with addons at like lvl 20 |
| 04:48.09 | TrixIsOwned | ugly :( |
| 04:48.12 | ckknight | look at me now! |
| 04:48.14 | ckknight | lvl 51! |
| 04:48.17 | orionshock | ya we know |
| 04:48.17 | TrixIsOwned | lol |
| 04:48.21 | ckknight | bam |
| 04:48.27 | Corey | TrixIsOwned what quest thing is that |
| 04:48.41 | TrixIsOwned | questsfu |
| 04:48.41 | orionshock | questFu |
| 04:48.49 | Corey | cheers |
| 04:48.59 | Xinhuan | when did you start playing wow though ckknight? |
| 04:49.01 | ckknight | I use QuestsFu |
| 04:49.02 | ckknight | it's nice |
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| 04:49.11 | ckknight | Xinhuan, um, roughly January 2006 |
| 04:49.14 | ckknight | early January |
| 04:49.30 | Xinhuan | hmm that was just 2 months after release? |
| 04:49.36 | ckknight | lol, no |
| 04:49.38 | ckknight | over a year |
| 04:49.42 | Xinhuan | oh hmm |
| 04:49.42 | ckknight | I started coding addons in February 2006 |
| 04:49.47 | orionshock | fk it, brb rebooting shitty pc |
| 04:49.52 | ckknight | made BossPanel (later renamed FuBar) |
| 04:49.56 | Xinhuan | i started in closed beta heh |
| 04:50.02 | Xinhuan | but only for my own use |
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| 04:50.22 | Corey | i like fubar |
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| 04:50.43 | Corey | its very handy i find |
| 04:50.47 | ckknight | yep |
| 04:51.10 | ckknight | ... |
| 04:51.21 | ScaleMAster | bleh.. so tired >..> |
| 04:51.36 | Corey | almost sounds like a pokemons name |
| 04:51.58 | ckknight | ScaleMaster, I choose you! Boulder attack! |
| 04:52.04 | Corey | theres a sleeping snorlax blocking my path, can you help me out? |
| 04:52.39 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, I'd help you out, but for some reason can't open the link |
| 04:52.46 | TrixIsOwned | O_o |
| 04:52.51 | ScaleMAster | lawls |
| 04:53.02 | ckknight | I believe the correct term is "lulz" |
| 04:53.03 | TrixIsOwned | type it out, its not that long for god sakes! :O |
| 04:53.42 | TrixIsOwned | http://tinyurl.com/2o69u7 |
| 04:53.43 | TrixIsOwned | there |
| 04:53.44 | TrixIsOwned | :P |
| 04:53.51 | Corey | mines worse |
| 04:54.05 | Corey | i just discovered flexbar |
| 04:54.09 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:54.12 | Corey | was having fun making all sorts of buttons lol |
| 04:54.36 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, okay, move PitBull to right below your character |
| 04:54.36 | Corey | the word infinite just begs to be tested |
| 04:54.45 | ckknight | so that it's as close to the center of the screen without obscuring your character |
| 04:54.48 | ckknight | minimizing eye movement |
| 04:54.59 | TrixIsOwned | my hotkeys fail too :O |
| 04:55.00 | ckknight | next, get Prat, a handy chat modifier addon |
| 04:55.09 | TrixIsOwned | it sucks to move to the 7 button o_o |
| 04:55.48 | ckknight | next, get Bartender3 and simplify your bars |
| 04:55.48 | ckknight | you don't need the bottom-right micro-bar |
| 04:55.48 | ckknight | or your bag thing |
| 04:55.48 | ckknight | you can press 'b' for bags |
| 04:55.48 | ckknight | get a bag addon such as OneBag if you don't have one already |
| 04:55.56 | ckknight | get a minimap addon such as simpleMinimap |
| 04:55.59 | TrixIsOwned | i use arkinvintory |
| 04:56.07 | TrixIsOwned | lets me sort things and such |
| 04:56.20 | ckknight | get FuBar_FuXPFu |
| 04:56.23 | ckknight | it's pretty shiny |
| 04:57.22 | ckknight | um... |
| 04:57.30 | ckknight | get a tooltip mod like CowTip (mine) or TinyTip |
| 04:57.31 | TrixIsOwned | i wish the wiki had screenshots, i mean jeez! :O |
| 04:57.36 | Corey | have you tried flexbar2 ck? |
| 04:57.49 | ckknight | that's all I can think of right now |
| 04:57.56 | ckknight | no, Corey, I'm really not into action bars |
| 04:58.03 | ckknight | I should check it out, though |
| 04:58.30 | TrixIsOwned | http://waffleimages.nwpshost.com/files/77/7700fe5d091eb8f88bef2f4b60498af840404542.jpg how do people come up with crazy ui's like that :O |
| 04:58.39 | Corey | i find with some classes you really just need more buttons |
| 04:58.42 | ckknight | tinyurl, TrixIsOwned |
| 04:58.45 | TrixIsOwned | sec |
| 04:58.46 | Corey | like warlock, way too many |
| 04:58.49 | TrixIsOwned | http://tinyurl.com/36aw7k |
| 04:58.49 | ckknight | Corey, pally here |
| 04:59.13 | xyu | I only put things that have cooldowns on my action bar |
| 04:59.17 | xyu | or things i need to see the range |
| 04:59.20 | xyu | other than that i don't do it |
| 04:59.22 | xyu | like blessings etc. |
| 04:59.25 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, ah, get ElkBuffBars |
| 04:59.47 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, and with simpleMinimap, you can move and shape it however you want |
| 05:00.05 | TrixIsOwned | and then the uh... |
| 05:00.13 | TrixIsOwned | what would you call that! |
| 05:00.18 | TrixIsOwned | uh the backgrounds |
| 05:00.21 | ckknight | eepanels |
| 05:00.23 | ckknight | my guess |
| 05:00.40 | ckknight | oh, and Aloft for the nameplates |
| 05:01.02 | TrixIsOwned | i have aloft but i havent configured it at all |
| 05:01.05 | TrixIsOwned | >_> |
| 05:01.18 | xyu | his quest log is nQUestlog I believe. |
| 05:01.19 | ckknight | *shrug* might pay |
| 05:01.23 | ckknight | yea, it's NQuestLog |
| 05:01.27 | ckknight | similar to QuestsFu |
| 05:01.30 | ckknight | just different tastes |
| 05:01.35 | TrixIsOwned | and that ui looks maximized for a giant screen size, i wish i had a bigger monitor! :O |
| 05:01.44 | TrixIsOwned | i pefer to keep questsfu, used to it already |
| 05:01.46 | ckknight | how big's yours? |
| 05:01.57 | ckknight | resolution-wise |
| 05:02.01 | TrixIsOwned | 1024x768 |
| 05:02.15 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:02.23 | ckknight | you can still do quite a bit with that |
| 05:02.34 | xyu | if you have eagle eyes you can play with the UI scale :P |
| 05:02.44 | TrixIsOwned | lol |
| 05:02.46 | ckknight | but yea, might be an idea to invest in a new monitor ;-) |
| 05:02.53 | TrixIsOwned | i prefer not to squint constantly :O |
| 05:03.01 | Corey | ill show you a pic of mine in a second, you will laugh at me :D |
| 05:03.43 | TrixIsOwned | :< |
| 05:03.52 | TrixIsOwned | i dunno, mine is pretty sucky :O |
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| 05:04.13 | xyu | i just keep mine simple, trimmed down. |
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| 05:04.22 | kebinusan | So Ive been away for a couple days is this Rock thing what joker turned into or something? |
| 05:04.33 | TrixIsOwned | so i should drop bongos2? |
| 05:05.39 | TrixIsOwned | in that one i linked above, how does he get that bar above the chat that has like xp and such |
| 05:05.46 | xyu | i believe capping is a pretty essential mod if you ever pvp at all |
| 05:05.49 | TrixIsOwned | dps... and such |
| 05:06.11 | xyu | it's fubar |
| 05:06.19 | TrixIsOwned | ah |
| 05:06.29 | TrixIsOwned | just configured in some advanced way? :< |
| 05:06.33 | xyu | those are just modules running along w/ it. |
| 05:06.36 | xyu | like money_fu |
| 05:06.47 | xyu | there's a dps one too, don't know the name |
| 05:06.52 | Corey | http://tinyurl.com/37uses thats mine, laugh away :D |
| 05:06.53 | Antiarc | I'm starting to think that the whole "omen traffic getting clogged" issue can be blamed on DoTimer |
| 05:06.57 | Antiarc | It is spammy as hell. |
| 05:07.16 | Antiarc | About 30x as much traffic as Omen |
| 05:07.22 | Antiarc | And Omen's a realtime threat meter. |
| 05:07.58 | Diao | dotimer sends data? |
| 05:08.28 | TrixIsOwned | you people and your giant monitors! :@:@:@ |
| 05:08.28 | Antiarc | Oh yes. |
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| 05:08.33 | Antiarc | It sends a metric assload of data. |
| 05:08.53 | Diao | wtf for |
| 05:08.57 | Diao | doesn't it only track self debuffs |
| 05:08.57 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure it sends your DoT status on every tick |
| 05:09.00 | Corey | i thought thered be more laughing after showing that |
| 05:09.02 | Corey | :D |
| 05:09.03 | Antiarc | Of every DoT you have running |
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| 05:09.39 | TrixIsOwned | k so help, im completely restarting my ui, because im tried of having mods i dont even use |
| 05:09.40 | Antiarc | Over two Al'ar tries, from a druid, it sent 6000 messages, for a little over 400kb of traffic. |
| 05:09.48 | orionshock | what'd u show Corey ? |
| 05:09.49 | Diao | ... |
| 05:10.18 | TrixIsOwned | tell me what i need to get my wow ui looking like this: http://tinyurl.com/36aw7k |
| 05:10.23 | Antiarc | Recount is also spammy, but far less so |
| 05:10.41 | Diao | let's see |
| 05:10.48 | Diao | looks like mm |
| 05:10.49 | xyu | when i reset my recount data, my addon memory usage goes down like 10mb heh |
| 05:10.50 | Corey | my UI |
| 05:10.56 | Diao | bartender3, cycircled for bars |
| 05:11.04 | Diao | pitbull or aguf? for unitframes |
| 05:11.14 | Diao | elkbuffbars for buffs |
| 05:11.22 | Diao | parrot for the sct effect |
| 05:11.24 | Corey | you wanna see it orionshock? |
| 05:11.26 | Antiarc | 2 tries, 828 messages from Recount, 133kb |
| 05:11.29 | orionshock | ya |
| 05:11.35 | Diao | aloft for the health bars |
| 05:11.42 | Corey | http://tinyurl.com/37uses |
| 05:11.59 | Diao | not sure what the quest tracker is, probably questsfu? |
| 05:12.14 | xyu | Diao what pic you looking at? |
| 05:12.17 | orionshock | ckknight: LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 05:12.24 | Diao | and fubar with experiencefu, some stuff i don't recognize, ora2, violation, durabilityfu, moneyfu, clockfu in the middle |
| 05:12.24 | Diao | uhh |
| 05:12.32 | Diao | the one TrixIsOwned linked |
| 05:12.36 | xyu | oh that one w/ the warrio? |
| 05:12.38 | xyu | r |
| 05:12.46 | xyu | it's nQuestLog |
| 05:12.48 | Diao | yeah |
| 05:12.51 | Diao | oh |
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| 05:13.14 | xyu | tinytip is used as well |
| 05:13.18 | NimbleRabit | So this is probably a really dumb question, but how do I clear a keybinding in closetgnome |
| 05:13.38 | ckknight | orionshock, what about it? |
| 05:13.41 | Corey | im amazed nobody is laughing its real ugly |
| 05:13.50 | xyu | we've seen worse :D |
| 05:13.51 | orionshock | CowTip\Text\Text.lua line 61: Library "LibDogTag-1.0" not found. => LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 05:14.38 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:14.43 | orionshock | hehe |
| 05:14.57 | Corey | thats the bug in my screenshot too lol |
| 05:15.09 | orionshock | Corey: default ui is nothing to laugh at, it's rather functional, tho for a druid.. it's severly lacking |
| 05:15.12 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48037 10CowTip/CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip - LibDogTag-2.0, not 1.0 |
| 05:15.20 | orionshock | eww resto too :P |
| 05:15.29 | Corey | i love restor :D |
| 05:15.30 | ckknight | Corey, get a better UF |
| 05:15.54 | Corey | I tried pitbull but i found i was too lazy to go through the menu lol |
| 05:15.56 | ckknight | so let's all bitch about Auctioneer now |
| 05:16.02 | ckknight | jk. |
| 05:16.06 | norgs | Woot! |
| 05:16.10 | orionshock | i know, as a resto druid in BG's im almost imposible to kill |
| 05:16.31 | Corey | do you have a screenshot of your UI orionshock? |
| 05:16.37 | orionshock | >.> |
| 05:16.39 | orionshock | ya |
| 05:16.46 | Corey | lemme see :D |
| 05:17.20 | sylvanaar | when are they buffing the pre-bc instances? |
| 05:17.26 | ckknight | asmodai, awaken and serve your master! |
| 05:17.27 | ckknight | mwahaha |
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| 05:18.14 | orionshock | not my druid |
| 05:18.15 | orionshock | http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_082707_233259.jpg |
| 05:18.30 | asmodai | ckknight: heh :P |
| 05:18.33 | asmodai | I serve none. |
| 05:18.38 | sylvanaar | im a resto druid too |
| 05:19.07 | Recluse | lua doesn't like my pattern: .*lf[1-4]?[gm]?.*heroic.*(tank)?.* doesn't match "lf2m heroic mech need tank" o.O |
| 05:19.24 | Corey | i like where you put your unitframes |
| 05:19.28 | ckknight | asmodai, I serve your mom |
| 05:19.30 | ckknight | in bed |
| 05:19.32 | ckknight | last night |
| 05:19.33 | Corey | most ppl put them at the bottom |
| 05:19.36 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48038 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix bug with newDict and newSet not returning properly. |
| 05:19.41 | sylvanaar | i still use calltoarms, i wish someone would write a good group mod |
| 05:20.00 | asmodai | ckknight: That sort of comments never work with me. :P |
| 05:20.24 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:20.29 | orionshock | sylvanaar: best way to do it is not to pug... :D |
| 05:20.32 | ckknight | work how? I'm being facetious |
| 05:20.49 | Xinhuan | what does calltoarms do? |
| 05:20.56 | sylvanaar | well - thats what i do, there just arent many options |
| 05:20.58 | Corey | you have a pic of your UI sylvanaar? |
| 05:21.02 | asmodai | ckknight: Most people would be offended++ ;) |
| 05:21.33 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:21.35 | ckknight | their own fault |
| 05:21.37 | Corey | that name looks real familiar |
| 05:21.41 | TrixIsOwned | diao what is "cycircled" O_o |
| 05:21.46 | ckknight | their moms shouldn't be wanting it so much |
| 05:21.46 | TrixIsOwned | "[23:10] <<Diao>> bartender3, cycircled for bars" |
| 05:22.00 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, makes buttons circular |
| 05:22.02 | ckknight | and shiny |
| 05:22.02 | orionshock | hehe.. i still like this pic : http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/Sig.jpg |
| 05:22.30 | sylvanaar | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/6671/ |
| 05:22.30 | TrixIsOwned | its part of bartender? |
| 05:22.31 | Antiarc | Yay, Al'ar to 52% in hase 2 |
| 05:22.45 | Antiarc | I am hoping he dies tonight |
| 05:23.13 | Corey | TrixIsOwned nope |
| 05:23.18 | sylvanaar | i didnt write it, i just have been keeping it up since the author left it pre-tbc |
| 05:23.24 | TrixIsOwned | seperate addon then? |
| 05:23.25 | kebinusan | Phase 1 is boring |
| 05:23.36 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48039 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - spelling is for chumps |
| 05:23.44 | Antiarc | Phase 1 is beyond boring |
| 05:23.53 | Corey | yep |
| 05:23.54 | Xinhuan | QUILL GET DOWN! |
| 05:23.59 | Corey | their both on files.wowace.com TrixIsOwned |
| 05:24.00 | Xinhuan | zomg tank has died. |
| 05:24.06 | Corey | they're* |
| 05:25.07 | orionshock | sylvanaar: is CTA sill in Dev? |
| 05:25.16 | kebinusan | We started carrying over some adds from phase 1 for a lil extra dps oomph and just to make the fight shorter |
| 05:25.26 | sylvanaar | i have been maintaining it |
| 05:25.30 | Antiarc | We're doing that, which is what makes this so boring as a rogue |
| 05:25.35 | kebinusan | heh |
| 05:25.42 | kebinusan | dps to 15 and /yawn |
| 05:25.45 | Xinhuan | how do you do phase 2? |
| 05:25.48 | Xinhuan | just curious |
| 05:25.49 | Antiarc | We're taking adds to 40%, which, with an enhance shammy, 2 rogues, and a DPS warrior, takes about 3 seconds |
| 05:25.57 | Antiarc | Melee on Al'ar, ranged on adds |
| 05:26.15 | Xinhuan | do you let the adds tank get blown away? |
| 05:26.27 | kebinusan | Yah, thats what we do in phase2 as well.. we have a lock click off salv and pewpew phase 1 which gives the tank tons of aggro |
| 05:26.28 | Antiarc | No, we're single-DPSing the adds on the transition |
| 05:26.43 | Xinhuan | i mean phase 2 adds |
| 05:26.44 | kebinusan | Same, single dps assist in p2 |
| 05:26.53 | Antiarc | Oh. I'm not sure, I think single DPSing them |
| 05:26.56 | kebinusan | just make a lock orhuntard |
| 05:26.57 | Antiarc | No sense in blowing up the tank |
| 05:27.06 | Xinhuan | we are doing ranged + 1 rogue on phase 2 adds, the rogue stuns the add at ~20% |
| 05:27.11 | kebinusan | eh its only 7k damage as long as two dont blow up at the same time its fine |
| 05:27.14 | Xinhuan | then the tank runs away and the ranged kills it |
| 05:27.30 | kebinusan | we've never had a tank die from getting blown up yet |
| 05:27.41 | kebinusan | well.. when people assist that is |
| 05:27.53 | Xinhuan | generally its not the explosion that kills the add tank |
| 05:28.07 | Xinhuan | its the fact that he gets thrown across half the room sometimes and goes out of healing range |
| 05:28.21 | kebinusan | just have them tank them on the side of the room with their back to a wall |
| 05:28.24 | kebinusan | its not a problem |
| 05:28.38 | TrixIsOwned | i have no idea where i got mik's scrolling combat text >_> |
| 05:28.46 | Xinhuan | google it |
| 05:28.48 | kebinusan | TrixIsOwned, wowinterface.com |
| 05:28.56 | kebinusan | or google works :-) |
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| 05:29.46 | orionshock | ok Corey now do an update on cowtip, works find now |
| 05:29.52 | Corey | thanks |
| 05:30.04 | ckknight | much thanks for the testing, orionshock |
| 05:30.11 | orionshock | and ya , the "new" version of it has a better config gui |
| 05:30.17 | ckknight | type /cow |
| 05:30.30 | ckknight | I haven't worked out the minimap button for LibRockConfig-1.0 yet |
| 05:30.50 | orionshock | hehe, so waterfall & Fubar-Plugin in one? |
| 05:31.07 | ckknight | more like waterfall + niagara |
| 05:31.15 | ckknight | but the minimap button would be an easy way to access without typing anything |
| 05:31.24 | ckknight | i.e. currently, you need to do /rock or an addon specific slash command |
| 05:31.43 | ckknight | but I'm basically getting rid of FuBar plugins as config centers |
| 05:31.48 | ckknight | that's the goal at least |
| 05:31.55 | orionshock | but i like fubar |
| 05:32.06 | ckknight | FuBar's great for showing information |
| 05:32.15 | orionshock | then again that thread about milti-tired menus with dew drop has a point |
| 05:32.17 | ckknight | it shouldn't have 20+ plugins that just sit there and provide config |
| 05:32.47 | sylvanaar | orionshock the code is so awful though - i dont like to look at it. i did a bunch of fixes to support paladin/shaman it needs to be recoded - i was hoping someone would have done it by now |
| 05:33.26 | orionshock | hehe.. i'd do something myself (as i like the addon) but .. i know jack about ACTUAL coding |
| 05:34.22 | sylvanaar | i mean - CTA is still mega useful now, even if you just use the browser |
| 05:35.38 | Corey | i like the raid frames this guy is using: http://upload9.postimage.org/386030/photo_hosting.html |
| 05:36.02 | orionshock | eww pit bull with a touch of perfect raid frames |
| 05:36.20 | kebinusan | sRaidFrames judging by the fubar |
| 05:36.22 | orionshock | tho i like the Unitframes |
| 05:36.45 | orionshock | still eww |
| 05:36.54 | Corey | why eww |
| 05:37.02 | Corey | it takes less room than sraidframes having them all at the side like that |
| 05:37.07 | orionshock | i use x-perl raid frames |
| 05:37.07 | kebinusan | I prefer Grid it gives me just enough information |
| 05:37.17 | Corey | i hate his group frames position though |
| 05:37.25 | TrixIsOwned | what is the fubar dps addon |
| 05:37.27 | orionshock | god forbid i use non-ace raid frames :P |
| 05:37.28 | TrixIsOwned | i mean the best one |
| 05:37.38 | WobWork | recount? |
| 05:37.40 | kebinusan | FuBar_DPSFu |
| 05:37.42 | sylvanaar | i use xperl or pitbull |
| 05:37.49 | WobWork | I like recount |
| 05:37.50 | TrixIsOwned | just FuBar_DPS is good? |
| 05:37.52 | kebinusan | or somethin like that |
| 05:37.53 | WobWork | I wish more people used it |
| 05:38.07 | kebinusan | I love recount Wob |
| 05:38.17 | TrixIsOwned | and what do i need to show how many kills left till next level? :O |
| 05:38.20 | kebinusan | the death replay is awesome as a raid lead |
| 05:38.22 | TrixIsOwned | on fubar that is |
| 05:38.25 | WobWork | Although I suspect the "do not count pet data in owner" option is a bit bugged |
| 05:38.25 | Corey | i tried recount |
| 05:38.35 | Corey | but it didn't have an option for only showing effective healing so i went back |
| 05:38.37 | WobWork | in that it separates the pet data, but also adds it in |
| 05:38.56 | WobWork | but I can't be sure of that |
| 05:39.04 | orionshock | sylvanaar: id say i could try to start Ace'ifying CTA,but i don't pug, i'd fail at coding :\ |
| 05:39.06 | kebinusan | Yeah, there are a few lil things like htat |
| 05:39.12 | kebinusan | the mana gain thing doesnt show dark pact |
| 05:39.29 | TrixIsOwned | experiencefu probably does that right? |
| 05:39.32 | orionshock | hell ReportAFK took the better part of 2 weeks to make it useful .. then again it has lots of bloat :D |
| 05:39.36 | Corey | if it was more configurable what it showed it would be great |
| 05:39.51 | WobWork | Oh I love the death replay |
| 05:39.52 | kebinusan | Id like to see Recount include your pet as part of your damage pie graph when you merge pets |
| 05:39.58 | ckknight | back |
| 05:40.03 | sylvanaar | you could take wholib, and fubar, and make a pretty decent version of the CTA "groups forming" list |
| 05:40.05 | WobWork | it taught me never to use Mend Pet if there are warlock mobs that use unstable affliction =P |
| 05:40.06 | kebinusan | there were a couple other things that have been posted as suggestions |
| 05:40.24 | WobWork | s/use/use Imp/ |
| 05:40.32 | TrixIsOwned | and fpc and ping and such for fubar is already there, right? |
| 05:40.39 | TrixIsOwned | fps* |
| 05:41.05 | kebinusan | FuBar_PerformanceFu |
| 05:42.57 | Recluse | does the wow client not support subpattern matches in lua or something? |
| 05:43.07 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 05:43.08 | TrixIsOwned | thank you guys, you are all uber helpful :O |
| 05:43.11 | Antiarc | Lua doesn't support subpattern matches, I believe |
| 05:43.12 | Corey | did u see the chat in that last one orion? lol |
| 05:43.15 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, :-) |
| 05:43.22 | Antiarc | Lua patterns are not pcre :P |
| 05:43.37 | ckknight | which is lame. |
| 05:43.44 | orionshock | Corey: lol |
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| 05:44.00 | TrixIsOwned | does anyone know if Cartographer_Data automaticall overwrites old data? |
| 05:44.07 | TrixIsOwned | automatically* |
| 05:44.25 | orionshock | cart data is sorta borked |
| 05:44.36 | TrixIsOwned | er? :O |
| 05:44.39 | sylvanaar | what is a subpattern match as you are decribing it? |
| 05:44.40 | orionshock | it should just hijack the db on load and not do anything to the local db |
| 05:44.53 | orionshock | but that dosn't always work |
| 05:44.55 | TrixIsOwned | i mean im restarting so i dont want the local db |
| 05:45.08 | TrixIsOwned | i should just delete the local db if this has everything |
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| 05:45.34 | orionshock | some ppl reported cart_data filling up the local db, then redisplaying all the nodes again on the map, db node effect |
| 05:45.39 | asmodai | IIRC Lua did not use pcre or posix re because it would bloat the executable considerably. |
| 05:45.40 | Recluse | lua.org says "A pattern may contain sub-patterns enclosed in parentheses" but i cannot seem to get them to match in code hehe |
| 05:46.21 | sylvanaar | you mean capturing groups? |
| 05:46.24 | Recluse | string.find("lf1m heroic mech need tank", "lf.*heroic.*(tank)*") returns false for example |
| 05:46.46 | TrixIsOwned | i will prob need eepanels to get this: http://tinyurl.com/36aw7k |
| 05:46.51 | TrixIsOwned | or no? :O |
| 05:47.12 | orionshock | no |
| 05:47.22 | Corey | i got eepanels |
| 05:47.33 | Corey | im making everything pink lol |
| 05:47.40 | ckknight | Recluse, oh, you can't use modifiers like * or ? on groups |
| 05:48.03 | TrixIsOwned | he doesnt use eepanels on that? :O |
| 05:48.06 | sylvanaar | he prolly left out the . |
| 05:48.12 | asmodai | Corey: Hot pink I hope? |
| 05:48.29 | CIA-14 | 03darravis * r48040 10SmartyCatManaBar/ (SmartyCatManaBar-enUS.lua SmartyCatManaBar.lua): |
| 05:48.29 | CIA-14 | SmartyCatManaBar: |
| 05:48.29 | CIA-14 | -Added the option to change the text styles |
| 05:48.30 | orionshock | no, he just turnd up the transparency on everything |
| 05:48.31 | Recluse | well i wanted the (tank) to be optional (zero or more) |
| 05:48.44 | Corey | i think its pretty hot :P |
| 05:48.51 | ckknight | Recluse, sorry, you can't |
| 05:48.56 | TrixIsOwned | so, any addons that are must have? |
| 05:49.00 | TrixIsOwned | that im missing? :O |
| 05:49.01 | sylvanaar | t?a?n?k? |
| 05:49.11 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, Parrot, CowTip |
| 05:49.12 | Recluse | wtb regex for lua XD |
| 05:49.13 | orionshock | BT3, EBBs, |
| 05:49.22 | TrixIsOwned | oo cowtip |
| 05:49.24 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, those are my mods, mind you, but all awesome |
| 05:49.36 | TrixIsOwned | lollol |
| 05:49.56 | Corey | hes not lying |
| 05:50.08 | TrixIsOwned | in all honesty, cowtip or tinytip? :P |
| 05:50.20 | ckknight | CowTip has DogTag support, which is very, very handy |
| 05:50.42 | ckknight | it means you can configure it to how you want pretty much as much as you want |
| 05:50.42 | TrixIsOwned | i have no idea what dogtag is |
| 05:50.43 | TrixIsOwned | >_> |
| 05:50.47 | ckknight | it's a tag system |
| 05:50.52 | sylvanaar | thats as good as you can do really [Tt]?[aA]?[nN]?[kK]? |
| 05:50.55 | ckknight | e.g. [CurHP] returns their hp |
| 05:51.01 | ckknight | and such |
| 05:51.07 | ckknight | you can do some neat stuff with it |
| 05:51.09 | TrixIsOwned | er? |
| 05:51.10 | TrixIsOwned | O_o |
| 05:51.27 | TrixIsOwned | like [curhp] in chat? |
| 05:51.28 | Recluse | t?a?n?k? would match on "lf1m heroic mech need healer" because of the n in need? |
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| 05:51.59 | sylvanaar | thats as good as you can do really [Tt][aA]?[nN]?[kK]? |
| 05:52.03 | Corey | i want that guys UF set up he told me he was using photek but mine looks nothin like that after stealing his pitbull settings lol |
| 05:52.32 | WobWork | taNk needed =P |
| 05:52.55 | orionshock | "copying" someones' settings in pitbull isn't exact |
| 05:53.01 | orionshock | there are a few settings that are left out |
| 05:53.18 | TrixIsOwned | someone give me your cartographer fishing data :@:@:@ |
| 05:54.05 | TrixIsOwned | and i have a bad habit of not rebuffing after the buffs go away because i dont notice |
| 05:54.08 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, Cartographer_Data |
| 05:54.09 | Recluse | if only i had the patience to submerge myself in the logic of creating a LibRegex |
| 05:54.19 | TrixIsOwned | elkbuffbars will prob fix that right? |
| 05:54.22 | sylvanaar | its been done |
| 05:54.36 | ckknight | Recluse, sad thing is if you did it in just lua, it wouldn't be that efficient |
| 05:54.38 | sylvanaar | but it think its in cs |
| 05:54.40 | sylvanaar | c |
| 05:55.27 | Recluse | :p |
| 05:55.59 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:56.34 | kebinusan | Something Ive been curious about, are ParserLib and Parser-3.0 not the same thing? some of my addons seem to fail if I disable ParserLib |
| 05:57.21 | Corey | i just like how he has the names under like that |
| 05:57.22 | sylvanaar | basically, you could just use LF%dM, class names, and other keywords separately, and use some scoring system |
| 05:57.39 | orionshock | parserlib / parser3.0 is just ppl being lazy not updating their addons to new libs |
| 05:58.29 | TrixIsOwned | hm pitbull didnt load O_o |
| 05:58.45 | ckknight | kebinusan, ParserLib is Parser-1.1 |
| 05:59.24 | TrixIsOwned | LOL I DIDNT INSTALL PITBULL DUH |
| 05:59.41 | Recluse | that'd do it XD |
| 06:00.02 | orionshock | ... TrixIsOwned want's to be ignored :P |
| 06:00.18 | kebinusan | ok, I'll just go through and edit the tocs on those addons then |
| 06:00.37 | TrixIsOwned | o_o |
| 06:00.58 | orionshock | kebinusan: i think there is some major api changes in parser lib between versions |
| 06:02.38 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, learn to use your indoor voice |
| 06:03.12 | Corey | lol |
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| 06:05.48 | Corey | i installed bartender 3 but i can't get 2 bars to fit beside each other between my 2 chat windows unless i make them super small lol |
| 06:06.09 | nevcairiel | make the chat windows smaller! |
| 06:06.22 | Xinhuan | btw ckknight |
| 06:06.24 | kenlyric | what does that have to do with bartender3? |
| 06:06.30 | ckknight | yea? |
| 06:06.31 | Xinhuan | when i enable Foglight in Cartographer |
| 06:06.36 | Xinhuan | it doesn't play nice with this macro |
| 06:06.37 | Corey | im just complaining about my lack of space |
| 06:06.43 | kenlyric | get widescreen! |
| 06:06.52 | ckknight | srsly |
| 06:06.53 | Corey | i wish |
| 06:06.53 | Xinhuan | /script UIParentLoadAddOn("Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap"); MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status = "active"; BattlefieldMinimap:Show(); |
| 06:06.55 | kenlyric | I need a completely new idea for my UI. |
| 06:06.56 | orionshock | Corey: UI Scale |
| 06:07.07 | ckknight | Xinhuan, what goes wrong? |
| 06:07.08 | Corey | my UI scale is set to smallest already |
| 06:07.09 | Xinhuan | this macro shows the battlefield minimap |
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| 06:07.19 | Xinhuan | so that it works even when not in a BG or in a outlands map |
| 06:07.22 | orionshock | up ur screen rez then |
| 06:07.27 | Xinhuan | such as say in ironforge or WPL |
| 06:07.35 | kebinusan | Theres a nice mod called Dash that can help with UI space on a single monitor |
| 06:07.41 | Xinhuan | when foglight is enabled, this battlefield map becomes blank |
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| 06:07.43 | kebinusan | I use it to hide stuff I dont look at all the time |
| 06:07.59 | Corey | its 1280x1024 my max :( |
| 06:08.18 | TrixIsOwned | am i missing something with chat bars? how to resize them that is? :O |
| 06:08.25 | Xinhuan | i use this battlefield map in most outdoor zones because its helpful for herbing/mining |
| 06:08.26 | TrixIsOwned | i mean, chat windows |
| 06:08.41 | Corey | maybe i should just submit and put my minimap in that spot instead |
| 06:08.54 | Xinhuan | also the battlefield map also shows all the dots of your party/raid members if you are in one |
| 06:08.58 | Xinhuan | just like in a BG |
| 06:10.05 | ckknight | Xinhuan, okay, want to report the bug to jira? |
| 06:10.23 | Xinhuan | i'll do it later i guess |
| 06:10.35 | Xinhuan | is the foglight component done by you? |
| 06:10.39 | Xinhuan | or someone else |
| 06:11.00 | ckknight | me |
| 06:11.18 | orionshock | hey ckknight i got a what the hell error |
| 06:11.25 | ckknight | oh? |
| 06:12.23 | TrixIsOwned | what was the minimap editor? |
| 06:12.54 | TrixIsOwned | simpleMinimap right? |
| 06:13.25 | ckknight | yea |
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| 06:16.09 | sylvanaar | who has tried auctioneer advanced |
| 06:16.23 | norgs | me |
| 06:16.25 | orionshock | is the threat-lib author here? |
| 06:16.47 | sylvanaar | was anything advanced? |
| 06:17.06 | ckknight | orionshock, Antiarc |
| 06:17.10 | ckknight | hey Antiarc |
| 06:17.13 | ckknight | I gots me a bug |
| 06:17.23 | orionshock | thought so but the name didn't look right |
| 06:17.28 | ckknight | oh wait |
| 06:17.31 | ckknight | nevermind |
| 06:17.33 | ckknight | "my bad" |
| 06:18.28 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48041 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - fix bug with threat event. |
| 06:18.29 | norgs | sylvanaar: it's new and different. I wouldn't use it if you want something that's 100% complete and functional, but it's fun for a look at what's coming up. |
| 06:18.45 | ckknight | do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain |
| 06:19.03 | sylvanaar | oh you wrote it thats right |
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| 06:19.21 | norgs | indeed |
| 06:19.32 | ckknight | norgs is a traitor to the cause\ |
| 06:19.43 | ckknight | not 100% sure what the cause is yet |
| 06:19.45 | ckknight | but traitor, I say! |
| 06:20.01 | norgs | hey, I'm there in spirit! |
| 06:21.51 | sylvanaar | well norgs, what do you do with the existing auctioneer folder? |
| 06:22.01 | norgs | leave it there |
| 06:22.25 | sylvanaar | lucky i asked |
| 06:22.27 | kenlyric | what about the stubby/tooltip folders |
| 06:22.30 | sylvanaar | i had just deleted it |
| 06:22.41 | Xinhuan | does auctioneer4.0.4 and advancedauc run at the same time? |
| 06:22.43 | kenlyric | since those *do* have the same name |
| 06:22.48 | norgs | need to be replaced by the newer ones in the zip |
| 06:23.00 | norgs | Xinhuan: yes |
| 06:23.02 | Xinhuan | meaning my auction frame will have about 10 tabs at the bottom? |
| 06:23.06 | Xinhuan | from both addons? |
| 06:23.06 | sylvanaar | there is no newer one is tehre |
| 06:23.16 | norgs | no, 1 extra tab |
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| 06:24.08 | Xinhuan | if using auc4 adds 3 tabs, and using aucA adds 3, how does using both only add 4 in total? |
| 06:24.24 | ckknight | simple |
| 06:24.25 | sylvanaar | the gui is cute if you know where to look |
| 06:24.27 | ckknight | goblins |
| 06:24.36 | Xinhuan | gnomes > goblins |
| 06:24.36 | Hjalte | What is aucA, and where do i get it? |
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| 06:24.55 | ckknight | auctioneer advanced |
| 06:24.57 | norgs | auc adv only adds 1 for Appraiser. BtmScan adds 1, Auc4 adds 1, Beancounter adds 1 |
| 06:25.37 | Xinhuan | hmm, i'll try it |
| 06:25.42 | Soulless | aight i got a few qustions about dkp mods and since ace devs know there shit.... |
| 06:25.47 | norgs | well, not that it's at all appropriate for me to be advertising in #wowace, but: http://auctioneeraddon.com/advanced/ |
| 06:26.06 | nevcairiel | its not like we have a competing auction mod or something =P |
| 06:26.06 | sylvanaar | i like appraiser |
| 06:26.07 | Soulless | ....are there any good server side dkp packages out there or is eqdkp still it? |
| 06:26.21 | WobWork | nevcairiel: there's KCI |
| 06:26.26 | kenlyric | lol |
| 06:26.34 | ckknight | that doesn't count |
| 06:26.38 | sylvanaar | i have been using the postauctions tab for that |
| 06:26.39 | kenlyric | "competing" |
| 06:26.40 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 06:26.57 | ckknight | norgs, it's not a big deal |
| 06:27.12 | norgs | sylvanaar: is you don't have any mod that changes the browse window, the CompactUI is fun to turn on also |
| 06:27.39 | WobWork | norgs: PS thank god for partial auctionhouse scanning |
| 06:27.45 | WobWork | I just wish it could be done faster =) |
| 06:27.54 | WobWork | (as in instant =P) |
| 06:27.56 | sylvanaar | cool, yes, partial scans ftw |
| 06:28.04 | Xinhuan | can i ask how Auc4 determines how full the savedvar is? |
| 06:28.13 | Cyrez | CompactUI is pretty sexy. |
| 06:28.17 | WobWork | Xinhuan: It weighs it against a duck |
| 06:29.13 | norgs | It uses an algorithm designed by Iriel to iteratively step through the variables that are saved, and count (estimate) the number of constants used. |
| 06:29.25 | norgs | It's pretty close, but nowhere near accurate |
| 06:29.34 | WobWork | norgs: Also the incremental scanning is great, as it'll catch what the user is interested in |
| 06:29.43 | Xinhuan | hmmm |
| 06:30.14 | WobWork | ie if I'm only interested in copper ore, and constantly browse to check whether to buy it, it'll store the prices that I look at =) That's great =) |
| 06:30.25 | norgs | WobWork: indeed. The typical user need never really scan actually |
| 06:30.31 | kenlyric | am I dumb and missing the scan button entirely? |
| 06:30.41 | Xinhuan | scanning is for the "power users" that want to use bottomfeeder |
| 06:30.48 | Xinhuan | for really earning gold |
| 06:30.50 | sylvanaar | yay nice - price per unit |
| 06:30.55 | kenlyric | hmmm, i'm not a power user, I'm a lazy seller. |
| 06:31.15 | norgs | kenlyric: no it's not there. :) you can bug bleeter and ask him when it's going to be done :) |
| 06:31.30 | Hjalte | Does Aauc store prices per server - did the old Auctioneer even do that? |
| 06:31.51 | WobWork | norgs: So AA replaces Auc4? |
| 06:32.04 | norgs | AA is an alternative to Auctioneer 4 |
| 06:32.04 | kenlyric | Hjalte: the old one did per faction. |
| 06:32.20 | norgs | I'm competing with myself since nobody else was doing it |
| 06:32.46 | orionshock | im starting to hate stubby |
| 06:32.46 | WobWork | norgs: The line about using /aadv scan confused me a bit |
| 06:32.51 | Hjalte | I wish Kaelten would compete :) |
| 06:32.57 | mjc | http://cre.ations.net/creation/the-chain-reaction-machine-that-caught-my-apartment-on-fire |
| 06:33.05 | norgs | My goal is to destroy Auctioneer 4 completely and utterly by developing a better product |
| 06:33.44 | nevcairiel | that sounds so mean .. now if auc4 wasnt your product.. |
| 06:34.14 | theoddone33 | ahhh I love cross server AV roll group that runs |
| 06:34.20 | theoddone33 | they win 80% |
| 06:34.29 | theoddone33 | and if you get into a group with them it's very good honor |
| 06:34.40 | norgs | oh believe me, that hasn't made a difference. there were a lot of other developers who worked on auctioneer 4 that objected to my competition |
| 06:35.06 | WobWork | mjc: that's very cool =) |
| 06:35.25 | Xinhuan | how many people is working on AA? |
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| 06:36.37 | mjc | http://s2.video.blip.tv/0900000205572/Natetrue-TheGooFountain736.mov |
| 06:36.54 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r48042 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:36.54 | CIA-14 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 06:36.54 | CIA-14 | - added a key binding, |
| 06:36.54 | CIA-14 | - added an option to disable the zooming when using the mousewheel cast, |
| 06:36.54 | CIA-14 | - attempted to fix some minor bug with mousewheel binding. |
| 06:36.59 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r48043 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealth.lua: |
| 06:36.59 | CIA-14 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 06:37.00 | CIA-14 | - Update combat status indicator on death |
| 06:37.32 | Corey | you still awake orion? |
| 06:37.48 | sylvanaar | i dont think market pricing is ready for prime time, i guess i need to read how to tune it |
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| 06:38.07 | norgs | WobWork: actually theres a couple of the Auc4 developers that have started to see the light and are warming up to the idea now, so it's not just me anymore. |
| 06:38.28 | Arrowmaster | omg wtf, i just killed this big daddy in bioshock, walked away and now its back |
| 06:38.36 | Xinhuan | competition is good |
| 06:38.36 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 06:38.52 | kenlyric | price per unit makes me orgasm |
| 06:38.53 | orionshock | still here |
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| 06:39.06 | Xinhuan | have you thought about completely replacing the default auction UI though? rather than just "adding" to it |
| 06:39.07 | norgs | sylvanaar: you'll probably need to get a little more than 1 or 2 scans to start getting decent data |
| 06:39.33 | ckknight | Xinhuan, I've thought about that |
| 06:39.35 | Cyrez | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 06:39.36 | purl | cncfanatics <i=evolve@33.227-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 38m 31s ago, saying: 'Vista - piece of SHIT'. |
| 06:39.41 | norgs | Xinhuan: I did, but there's so much stuff that relies on the existing AH |
| 06:39.53 | Xinhuan | like, Superinspect replaces the default InspectUI |
| 06:39.57 | sylvanaar | actually i think its taking the number of items in my stack and dividing the market price by that number |
| 06:39.58 | Xinhuan | as an example |
| 06:40.00 | kenlyric | compact mode is all the ui rewrite you need |
| 06:40.22 | norgs | even with CompactUI, i tried to name the objects the same, and operate within the same spirit as the existing interface. |
| 06:40.36 | Xinhuan | with your own UI for the AH, i wouldn't need to close the AH to craft things |
| 06:40.55 | Xinhuan | as it is, i use my own JC UI that i wrote to craft gems as i search/auction |
| 06:40.56 | kenlyric | pretty sure it keeps the AH frame open now. |
| 06:41.11 | Xinhuan | so i can do both at the same time (crafting + auctioning) |
| 06:41.17 | Xinhuan | without one closing the other |
| 06:41.29 | sylvanaar | so it wants me to sell my 3 primal fires for 9g each |
| 06:41.29 | kenlyric | wasn't that a setting in auc4? or is some other mod doing that? |
| 06:41.32 | TrixIsOwned | bartender is being weird |
| 06:41.41 | TrixIsOwned | where my mouse is that is |
| 06:41.44 | Xinhuan | i'm not very sure |
| 06:41.45 | TrixIsOwned | its not seeing it O_o |
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| 06:43.27 | norgs | Xinhuan: Auctioneer 4 has a protect AH window mode |
| 06:44.02 | Madrak | alias Madrak | afk |
| 06:44.05 | Madrak | ack |
| 06:44.07 | Xinhuan | ok norgs, i'll look for the option |
| 06:44.33 | Xinhuan | lack of GUI options is bad ;p |
| 06:44.38 | norgs | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.39 | Xinhuan | seeing it fixed in AA is good |
| 06:44.40 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 06:45.29 | kenlyric | oh, and nobody buys glowing scorpid blood anymore. |
| 06:45.41 | Kaelten | Hjalte: compete? |
| 06:46.18 | Hjalte | Kaelten, oh, i think you missed the discussion :) |
| 06:46.24 | norgs | kenlyric: yeah, probably why it's still in my bag ;) |
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| 06:47.08 | Kaelten | which discussion? |
| 06:47.20 | mjc | http://cre.ations.net/creation/the-time-fountain |
| 06:47.26 | Hjalte | Auctioneer vs AdvancedAuctioneer |
| 06:47.40 | Kaelten | AdvancedAuctioneer? |
| 06:47.50 | Hjalte | http://auctioneeraddon.com/advanced/ |
| 06:47.54 | norgs | Kaelten would destroy me if he ever put his mind to it! :( |
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| 06:48.17 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:48.25 | Kaelten | I doubt that you got the better name |
| 06:48.28 | Kaelten | thats big plus points |
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| 06:49.59 | ckknight | Kaelten, I'll take him on |
| 06:50.01 | ckknight | with Sausage! |
| 06:50.04 | ckknight | beat that name! |
| 06:50.05 | ckknight | bam! |
| 06:50.20 | sylvanaar | I'd love it if you named everything Auctioneer_* |
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| 06:52.01 | Xinhuan | just call it "MoneySpinner" |
| 06:52.17 | Hjalte | Kaelten, imho, you don't need to work *a lot* on KC_Items to make it a good, competeable addon. I would just like a few options regarding looks and such. |
| 06:52.33 | ckknight | you don't like Sausage? |
| 06:52.40 | ckknight | everyone likes Sausage |
| 06:52.46 | ckknight | well, except vegetarians |
| 06:52.51 | ckknight | but it's not like they're real people anyway |
| 06:52.58 | kenlyric | so, I almost just typed "my wife doesn't like sausage" |
| 06:53.17 | kenlyric | i must be getting sleepy. |
| 06:53.17 | CIA-14 | 03woody * r48044 10Modality/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Modality: Initial source drop. |
| 06:53.21 | Xinhuan | does your wife like ham then? |
| 06:53.33 | sylvanaar | something is disconnecting me |
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| 06:53.54 | ckknight | sausagefest |
| 06:57.02 | TrixIsOwned | :O:O |
| 06:57.06 | TrixIsOwned | i really like eepanels |
| 06:57.08 | TrixIsOwned | seriously |
| 06:57.19 | kergoth | modality? |
| 06:57.24 | orionshock | who ever added sink lib to elfReloaded needs to be kicked in the junk |
| 06:57.25 | kergoth | we really need to make authors get on irc before they commit |
| 06:58.28 | Xinhuan | modality? |
| 06:59.01 | mjc | http://cre.ations.net/creation/cat-sprayer |
| 06:59.10 | Xinhuan | wonder what it does |
| 06:59.31 | TrixIsOwned | i have to figure out how i want to do my auction bars :< |
| 06:59.46 | orionshock | *action |
| 07:00.09 | orionshock | btw go get WowInstantMessinger from curse |
| 07:00.14 | kergoth | hehe, auctionbars |
| 07:00.28 | kergoth | i like cellular instead of wim or chatr myself |
| 07:00.43 | orionshock | i was told it was buggie |
| 07:00.47 | NimbleRabit | WIM is awesome |
| 07:01.06 | orionshock | & found wim first :P |
| 07:01.17 | kergoth | cellular's never bugged out for me, been using it for a long, long time |
| 07:01.39 | WobWork | HeyFu fw |
| 07:01.50 | WobWork | s/fw/ftw/ |
| 07:02.17 | Hjalte | kergoth, i just wish cellular had a better way of showing history - i find myself closing windows and then having to do too much to get them to appear again, too often. |
| 07:02.20 | orionshock | irc... i don't think i'll ever get used to it |
| 07:02.32 | Madrak | Kergoth: What is the reason you want authors on IRC when they commit? |
| 07:02.55 | CIA-14 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r48045 10CallToArms/CallToArms.lua: CallToArms: Took out the channel relay, just logs "WOULD Forward". I think this is causing dc's |
| 07:02.56 | orionshock | b/c of CIA |
| 07:03.32 | Madrak | Ah, I had about 5 billion failed commits this afternoon lol |
| 07:03.41 | sylvanaar | so we know they can hear us talking shit about them |
| 07:03.43 | Madrak | In funkeydude's words :) |
| 07:03.52 | orionshock | not sure... if the commit errors does CIA whine? |
| 07:04.23 | Madrak | I have no idea as I wasn't there =-) |
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| 07:06.04 | MoonWolf | orionshock, if the commit was not possible there is no commit and an error message to the user |
| 07:06.16 | orionshock | ic |
| 07:06.16 | MoonWolf | if it was and something else went wrong, it won't show up in the message. |
| 07:06.24 | CIA-14 | 03broliant * r48046 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (ConvergeFu.lua Locale-enUS.lua changelog.txt): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Updated raid invitation targets and added additional item checks. |
| 07:06.40 | Novae|Away | Hey guys, what is the best application for managing WoWAce addons under linux? Any preferance's? Mostly just for grabbing updates as they become avaliable |
| 07:06.59 | MoonWolf | does the wowace java thing work on *nix ? |
| 07:07.28 | Hjalte | Novae, you could try WAU2 http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 07:07.40 | Novae|Away | Cheers, i'll take a look. |
| 07:08.02 | WobWork | Novae|Away: I just use Kemayo's python script |
| 07:09.00 | TrixIsOwned | is there a way to make bartender not snap to other things? |
| 07:09.22 | Hjalte | TrixIsOwned, you mean snap to other bars? Yeah, there is. |
| 07:09.35 | TrixIsOwned | how? :O |
| 07:10.52 | TrixIsOwned | o_o |
| 07:11.30 | Hjalte | TrixIsOwned, not logged in, but just look through the options. I think it's out in the general options for all bars somewhere. |
| 07:11.40 | TrixIsOwned | ah sticky |
| 07:11.43 | TrixIsOwned | i found it |
| 07:11.45 | TrixIsOwned | :D |
| 07:13.06 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-143-26-31.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) |
| 07:14.23 | sylvanaar | minichat is driving me crazy it keeps collapsing my frames |
| 07:14.26 | TrixIsOwned | and is there a way to get questsfu to match eepanels? >_> |
| 07:14.45 | ckknight | well, Entourage was alright |
| 07:15.20 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon (n=jtlim@ppp121-45-69-170.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 07:15.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight you caught my cowtip suggestions yesterday? |
| 07:15.36 | sixseve | Modality enables advanced state paging for action bars. It currently only works with Bartender3 but it's designed to work with other actionbar addons eventually. |
| 07:16.29 | *** join/#wowace norgs|laptop (n=Norganna@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/Norgs) |
| 07:16.34 | Xinhuan | sixseve: plain english please :) |
| 07:17.10 | TrixIsOwned | nevermind :P |
| 07:17.11 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, sorry, I didn't |
| 07:17.19 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, and feel free to post em on jira.wowace.com |
| 07:17.31 | sag_ich_nicht | k |
| 07:17.32 | ckknight | I'm more likely to actually do em in that case |
| 07:17.49 | sixseve | You can have the buttons on your action bars change based on macro-like conditionals. |
| 07:18.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: you mad at me if i don't register with my real name? :P |
| 07:18.35 | ckknight | either do your real name or your username |
| 07:18.47 | ckknight | don't do something stupid for the sake of it |
| 07:18.59 | Xinhuan | what does sag_ich_nicht mean as a nickname? :) |
| 07:19.05 | sag_ich_nicht | no, because jira has username + realname |
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| 07:19.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: I won't tell you :P |
| 07:19.16 | ckknight | zomg, Python 3000: http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.0/ |
| 07:19.23 | sag_ich_nicht | (and this is the answer to your question, not a denial of answering) |
| 07:19.27 | ckknight | Xinhuan, I know not |
| 07:19.32 | ckknight | wait |
| 07:19.38 | ckknight | I say nothing |
| 07:19.43 | ckknight | I think |
| 07:19.45 | Xinhuan | T_T |
| 07:20.07 | sag_ich_nicht | it pretty much means "i won't tell" |
| 07:20.14 | norgs|laptop | say i naught? |
| 07:20.34 | CIA-14 | 03woody * r48047 10Modality/Modality.toc: Modality: Adding X-Email tag to TOC. |
| 07:20.36 | sag_ich_nicht | which is recursivly paradox, since it states that i won't tell you my nickname, using my nickname :O |
| 07:21.15 | Xinhuan | so is sag == won't, ich == tell and nicht == you? hehe |
| 07:21.49 | ckknight | ich = I |
| 07:21.54 | ckknight | nicht = no |
| 07:21.58 | ckknight | sag = say |
| 07:22.18 | ckknight | basically, I won't say |
| 07:22.22 | ckknight | or tell |
| 07:22.24 | ckknight | whatever |
| 07:22.27 | Xinhuan | cryptic |
| 07:22.34 | Hjalte | ckknight, you speak german? oO |
| 07:22.34 | WobWork | ironic |
| 07:22.43 | ckknight | Hjalte, I took 3 years in High school |
| 07:23.19 | CIA-14 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r48048 10CallToArms/CallToArms.lua: CallToArms: v SYL-07 |
| 07:24.16 | WobWork | Call to arms? |
| 07:24.21 | WobWork | isn't that the LFG addon? |
| 07:24.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight actually, nicht=not |
| 07:24.37 | sylvanaar | wenn Ich so junge wie CKK waere |
| 07:24.43 | sylvanaar | or is it jung |
| 07:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | jung |
| 07:24.50 | ckknight | jung |
| 07:24.53 | sag_ich_nicht | junge is boy |
| 07:24.55 | WobWork | ~x de en wenn Ich so jung wie CKK waere |
| 07:25.01 | sylvanaar | <- 18 years |
| 07:25.04 | sylvanaar | ago |
| 07:25.16 | ckknight | ich bin alt jetzt |
| 07:25.33 | WobWork | ~x de en wenn ich bin alt jetzt |
| 07:25.43 | WobWork | whups |
| 07:25.51 | ckknight | sylvanaar, /msg purl x en de dinosaur |
| 07:25.54 | ckknight | blah |
| 07:26.15 | ckknight | sylvanaar ist ein Dinosaurier |
| 07:26.17 | sylvanaar | habe seit 18 Jahren uberhaupt kein Deutch gesprochen |
| 07:26.18 | ckknight | sehr alt |
| 07:26.51 | sylvanaar | um.. |
| 07:27.20 | *** part/#wowace WobWork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 07:27.36 | sylvanaar | im feuer sollst to dich toeten |
| 07:27.39 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 07:28.05 | sylvanaar | i cant believe its comes out coherent |
| 07:28.19 | asmodai | Warum nur im Feuer? |
| 07:28.22 | sylvanaar | im maybe in den |
| 07:28.30 | sylvanaar | or is it im |
| 07:28.37 | asmodai | Ins Feuer also a possibility :) |
| 07:28.43 | sylvanaar | true |
| 07:28.49 | sylvanaar | so which is it |
| 07:28.51 | asmodai | Ins Feuer sollst du dich töten |
| 07:28.54 | CIA-14 | 03broliant * r48049 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/FuBar_ConvergeFu.toc: FuBar_ConvergeFu: Updated Toc to reflect changes made today to core files. |
| 07:29.14 | ckknight | Die Sonne scheint mir aus den Augen Sie wird heute Nacht nicht untergehen |
| 07:29.25 | asmodai | Don't ask me, I'm just a Dutchie, my Deutsch sucks. :P |
| 07:29.29 | sylvanaar | das Feuer |
| 07:29.37 | TrixIsOwned | grrr |
| 07:29.42 | TrixIsOwned | i dont know why this is doing that |
| 07:29.43 | ckknight | woo, America! |
| 07:29.44 | TrixIsOwned | :@ |
| 07:29.54 | ckknight | TrixIsOwned, because you touch yourself at night |
| 07:29.59 | *** join/#wowace woody67 (n=woody@216-99-214-242.dsl.aracnet.com) |
| 07:30.00 | TrixIsOwned | theres buff icons just randomly appearing |
| 07:30.01 | asmodai | Hvorfor snakker du deutsch? :P |
| 07:30.06 | asmodai | ckknight: Pitbull++ |
| 07:30.07 | *** part/#wowace woody67 (n=woody@216-99-214-242.dsl.aracnet.com) |
| 07:30.17 | *** join/#wowace woody67 (n=woody@216-99-214-242.dsl.aracnet.com) |
| 07:30.51 | asmodai | ckknight: really a smooth ride to configure |
| 07:31.00 | sylvanaar | dutch is like german with extra letters |
| 07:31.21 | [Ammo] | bullshit sylvanaar |
| 07:31.34 | asmodai | sylvanaar: Nuh uh. |
| 07:31.54 | asmodai | sylvanaar: Sure, we share the same Germanic root, but there's a lot of differences |
| 07:32.19 | asmodai | Just like Norwegian, Danish and Swedish are also similar to Dutch and German, but also vastly different. |
| 07:32.26 | Aim2 | asmodai: wtf are u doing here :) |
| 07:32.27 | Aim2 | lost? |
| 07:32.41 | asmodai | Not really. |
| 07:32.42 | TrixIsOwned | http://tinyurl.com/32cwhc |
| 07:32.51 | TrixIsOwned | is there a reason the bars are going there? |
| 07:32.53 | TrixIsOwned | i mean |
| 07:32.54 | asmodai | I play WoW. :P |
| 07:32.56 | Aim2 | asmodai: freebsd coding not enough fun? :) |
| 07:32.56 | TrixIsOwned | the buff icons |
| 07:32.58 | TrixIsOwned | are going there |
| 07:33.04 | sylvanaar | sprinkled in randomly to run afoul of the german steriotypical like for orderly things |
| 07:33.07 | Aim2 | asmodai: so do i, but i also code on wow |
| 07:33.13 | Aim2 | more fun :) |
| 07:33.16 | asmodai | Aim2: I haven't touched FreeBSD itself much, doing more userland. |
| 07:33.17 | Aim2 | coding + playing (to test) |
| 07:33.23 | asmodai | And was looking at some coding for/on WoW. |
| 07:33.36 | Aim2 | asmodai: i noticed :) |
| 07:33.49 | Aim2 | asmodai: oh then i have something to show you |
| 07:34.00 | Aim2 | ace coding brrr |
| 07:34.02 | Aim2 | and lua |
| 07:34.19 | Aim2 | asmodai: svn://emupedia.com/svn/ascent/ |
| 07:34.27 | Aim2 | with support for kqueue and stuff :) |
| 07:34.34 | asmodai | I never got the hots for circled or cycircled... Just doesn't fit my HUD mental idea I guess |
| 07:34.49 | asmodai | Aim2: Any http access to it? |
| 07:34.53 | Aim2 | asin trac? |
| 07:34.59 | asmodai | Also |
| 07:35.01 | Aim2 | nah i trashed it a while a go :) |
| 07:35.05 | sylvanaar | oh come on - 1) im joking around, and 2) they are similar |
| 07:35.21 | mjc | http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m274/SoupsMan/car-crashes-into-house-roofFAIL-1.jpg |
| 07:35.40 | asmodai | sylvanaar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_language :P |
| 07:35.52 | asmodai | Aim2: grrr |
| 07:35.52 | Corey | whats the difference between auf rangecheck and auf rangecheck M |
| 07:36.06 | *** join/#wowace pb_ee1 (n=nospam@83.145.75.66) |
| 07:36.18 | Corey | besides the author |
| 07:36.22 | Aim2 | asmodai: nomad is also planning to code on it :) |
| 07:36.35 | pb_ee1 | Morning. |
| 07:36.51 | asmodai | Aim2: nomad? |
| 07:37.01 | asmodai | *thinks* |
| 07:37.32 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.161.194) |
| 07:37.36 | Aim2 | asmodai: propolice/stacksmash protection stuff in freebsd kernel |
| 07:37.40 | asmodai | ah |
| 07:37.43 | asmodai | that guy |
| 07:37.50 | Aim2 | asmodai: and currently systrace port to freebsd |
| 07:38.15 | asmodai | I merely use FreeBSD nowadays, cba to do anything with it itself code-wise. |
| 07:38.25 | asmodai | More doing projects on it, web stuff or userland. |
| 07:38.31 | Aim2 | same here |
| 07:38.55 | Aim2 | well im thinking in working on jail2, pawel really did some nice stuff |
| 07:39.41 | Aim2 | asmodai: oh www.ascentemu.com is the website, if you are wondering what ascent is. |
| 07:41.31 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight you now have 5 open issues for cowtip in jira :O |
| 07:41.41 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, okay :-) |
| 07:42.00 | asmodai | "Ascent is a revolutionary new emulator" |
| 07:42.02 | asmodai | For what? |
| 07:42.14 | asmodai | I love it when a website doesn't answer the obvious. |
| 07:42.40 | *** join/#wowace Sole_ (n=chatzill@203.109.161.194) |
| 07:42.45 | orionshock | looks like an MMO emu |
| 07:42.48 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r48050 10Tattle/ (42 files in 36 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 07:43.14 | Aim2 | asmodai: world of warcraft |
| 07:43.49 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight i'll add some for parrot too :O |
| 07:43.56 | ckknight | great |
| 07:44.03 | asmodai | Ah, run your own server... Ok, useful for testing I reckon. |
| 07:44.36 | TrixIsOwned | >_> |
| 07:44.46 | TrixIsOwned | thats annoying i dont know how to get rid of these |
| 07:44.51 | TrixIsOwned | they where not here before :( |
| 07:45.05 | Aim2 | asmodai: uhuh :) |
| 07:45.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight else you wouldn't have pointed me there, and using an issuetracking system means i don't have to catch you on irc :P |
| 07:45.24 | Aim2 | asmodai: and fun to make |
| 07:45.35 | Aim2 | asmodai: i really love the coding+gaming combination |
| 07:45.36 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, also means I can refer to it when and if I forget |
| 07:45.41 | TrixIsOwned | its just randomly there :( |
| 07:46.00 | Aim2 | asmodai: and since i always sucks with games, its also nice that i can cheat using Ascent :) |
| 07:47.05 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 07:47.35 | Aim2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.37 | Aim2 | <3 :) |
| 07:48.28 | ckknight | lol: http://python.org/~guido/images/python-in-fence.jpeg |
| 07:48.44 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r48051 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 07:48.44 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 07:48.44 | CIA-14 | - possible fix for chat windows shifting up sometimes |
| 07:48.44 | ckknight | python got caught in an electric fence after eating a sheep |
| 07:49.28 | Aim2 | Oo |
| 07:49.34 | CIA-14 | 03jerry * r48052 10PitBull_AltAura/layout.lua: PitBull_AltAura: Add some missing options from MetaLayout |
| 07:50.41 | TrixIsOwned | lol i had them enabled in putbull for some reason |
| 07:50.45 | TrixIsOwned | fixed now >_> |
| 07:50.51 | TrixIsOwned | pitbull* |
| 07:51.14 | ckknight | ah |
| 07:51.16 | ckknight | that'd do it |
| 07:52.45 | CIA-14 | 03jerry * r48053 10Talented_Data/ (3 files): Talented_Data: regenerate |
| 07:55.40 | *** join/#wowace Wixi (n=jasoncou@client-82-27-234-226.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 07:59.45 | sag_ich_nicht | there that should do, might add some clarification when i get home ckk(and yes i'm blatantly stealing ideas from Tooltips: Complete :P) |
| 08:00.11 | ckknight | that's fine |
| 08:02.01 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 08:02.13 | *** join/#wowace abbat_w (i=abbat@moo.efnet.org) |
| 08:02.31 | abbat_w | morning guys |
| 08:04.45 | sag_ich_nicht | s/he/the/ |
| 08:04.48 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 08:05.00 | sylvanaar | wanna hear my joke "two irishmen walked out of a bar" |
| 08:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 08:05.19 | sylvanaar | thats it |
| 08:05.22 | sag_ich_nicht | it's funny because irish men never walk out of a bar, they collaps in it and get carried out |
| 08:05.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ha. ha. |
| 08:05.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i laughted out loud. seriously. |
| 08:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | really, i mean it. in all seriousness. it's really awesomely funny. never had such a good laught, in years. you can take my word for it. |
| 08:06.37 | Madrak | I think RapidSVN hates me |
| 08:06.53 | orionshock | use a cli then |
| 08:06.56 | sylvanaar | oh that reminds me tortoise got updated |
| 08:06.56 | Wixi | Anyone know of a good RSS feed application? |
| 08:07.33 | Madrak | hmm, cli could work. Not too excited about compiling subversion under windows though (don't want to bother with all the dependencies) |
| 08:07.47 | sylvanaar | you dont have to complile it |
| 08:07.53 | sylvanaar | its already compiled |
| 08:08.11 | Madrak | Hmm, sweet. I originally got the d/l link to the source I guess. |
| 08:10.34 | Recluse|Movie | ckk: QQ http://pastey.net/73319 |
| 08:12.16 | sylvanaar | you have a link, i need it also to update my copy |
| 08:15.21 | sylvanaar | http://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/39559/svn-1.4.5-setup.exe |
| 08:16.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Recluse: QQ there: http://jira.wowace.com/ |
| 08:17.42 | *** join/#wowace Antiar1 (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 08:18.25 | TrixIsOwned | is there a way to trigger eepanels at certain times? |
| 08:18.42 | TrixIsOwned | like if im in a raid disable one panel and enable another? |
| 08:19.18 | TrixIsOwned | and if im in a party, disable the solo panel, enable the party panel? |
| 08:19.23 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-135-171.student.uu.se) |
| 08:19.23 | TrixIsOwned | or is that too crazy? |
| 08:19.37 | orionshock | no |
| 08:19.40 | orionshock | just irritating |
| 08:20.33 | Hjalte | TrixIsOwned, you could try reading the eepanels2 thread on the forums. |
| 08:20.39 | TrixIsOwned | well then i just wont bother :P |
| 08:20.45 | TrixIsOwned | not worth it |
| 08:21.37 | orionshock | .. not worth reading the forum thread, not worth helping btw |
| 08:23.23 | *** join/#wowace doktoreas (n=lucacasa@host40-186-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:23.28 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 08:23.49 | doktoreas | is there an addon to resize viewport just how skinner does? |
| 08:24.04 | doktoreas | i don't need all the skinner features... |
| 08:24.47 | TrixIsOwned | http://tinyurl.com/2uwalf well i finnally finished my ui |
| 08:24.49 | TrixIsOwned | i like it |
| 08:24.55 | TrixIsOwned | im very happy with it |
| 08:26.08 | orionshock | why not use the default transparency options for the chat frames? |
| 08:26.34 | *** join/#wowace shingo2 (n=shingo@p5B0545FB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:29.34 | TrixIsOwned | because i want to be insane and use the eepanels |
| 08:29.42 | TrixIsOwned | unless you know how to not show tabs :@ |
| 08:31.03 | Recluse | jira'd ^.^ |
| 08:31.56 | *** join/#wowace Sinaloit (n=Sinaloit@c-71-226-41-207.hsd1.az.comcast.net) |
| 08:32.20 | mitch0 | hm. interesting: http://www.projectdarkstar.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=37 |
| 08:33.24 | abbat_w | huh |
| 08:33.33 | abbat_w | libbabble*, libparser ;) |
| 08:34.47 | CIA-14 | 03nirek * r48054 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: FuBar_TopScoreFu: Add Kael, Shade of Akama to Vuln list |
| 08:34.50 | orionshock | u use skinner and bottom frame, so my tabs are colored and in the top texture |
| 08:36.47 | abbat_w | ckknight, are Rock ready to trying? :) |
| 08:37.43 | orionshock | http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_090307_013512.jpg |
| 08:38.18 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48055 10Ace3/AceModuleCore-3.0/AceModuleCore-3.0.lua: |
| 08:38.18 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 08:38.18 | CIA-14 | - revamp of ModuleCore |
| 08:39.28 | abbat_w | huh |
| 08:39.31 | abbat_w | ace3? |
| 08:39.41 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 08:40.30 | Sinaloit | Anyone here really good with Periodic Table 3? |
| 08:40.41 | Hjalte | ahmagad, it's ace3! |
| 08:41.46 | Sinaloit | could make it: Ace³ |
| 08:42.37 | abbat_w | Hmm... Can't find any information about ace3 on wowace site |
| 08:42.43 | orionshock | it's a race who can finish first, Ace3 or Rock? |
| 08:42.54 | Sinaloit | its in alpha atm if i recall some of the earlier commits |
| 08:43.18 | [Ammo] | it's going to be small |
| 08:43.22 | [Ammo] | way smaller than ace2 |
| 08:43.49 | Sinaloit | As a note, shouldn't the WAU2 trac bugs be migrated to Jira? |
| 08:43.59 | abbat_w | please, finish something (rock or ace3) before 2.2 be released :) |
| 08:44.14 | Sinaloit | hopefully 2.2 will be tuesday.. |
| 08:44.40 | abbat_w | Sinaloit, nope |
| 08:44.51 | abbat_w | 'a few weeks' |
| 08:44.52 | Sinaloit | bah, why not its been on PTR for quite a while |
| 08:45.00 | doktoreas | what is rock ? |
| 08:45.15 | mitch0 | [ammo]: is ace3 joker matured, or something else? |
| 08:45.29 | Sinaloit | 1/3rd of a Janken-Pon game |
| 08:45.44 | mitch0 | ~rock |
| 08:45.44 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, rock is an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 08:46.00 | mitch0 | ~libjoker |
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| 08:46.05 | Wobin | Ace3 is different |
| 08:46.13 | mitch0 | I'm getting all confused... |
| 08:46.19 | mitch0 | ace3, rock, libjoker... |
| 08:46.29 | Sinaloit | joker got renamed to rock |
| 08:46.34 | mitch0 | ah |
| 08:46.37 | Sinaloit | so that should cut down on some of your confusion |
| 08:46.43 | mitch0 | that did |
| 08:46.50 | abbat_w | so |
| 08:46.58 | abbat_w | now we have twice memory usage |
| 08:47.02 | mitch0 | so, what's the diff between rock and ace3? |
| 08:47.22 | mitch0 | apart from "ckk vs the rest" |
| 08:47.24 | [Ammo] | mitch0: ace3 has nothing to do with rock |
| 08:47.31 | abbat_w | Part of memory used by Rock libs, part of memory used by ace3 libs... |
| 08:47.33 | [Ammo] | ace3 is minimalistic, rock isn't |
| 08:47.39 | abbat_w | where is 'efficient' etc? |
| 08:48.00 | mitch0 | last time I read ckk wanted to make joker slim, too |
| 08:48.07 | mitch0 | guess he got carried away? :) |
| 08:48.07 | TrixIsOwned | how do you set up hotkeys in bartender? O_o |
| 08:48.20 | Sinaloit | lol this part of the wiki is amusing: I'm scared Ckknight is going to get hit by a bus and no one will be able to maintain Rock |
| 08:48.35 | Sinaloit | then his response to the statement |
| 08:49.16 | Sinaloit | So are Ace3 and Rock both going to be seperate, or some merger or some other option i've not listed |
| 08:50.12 | [Ammo] | with the first step we did towards Ace3, LibStub both can use libraries written for LibStub |
| 08:50.25 | [Ammo] | so there's your unlisted option |
| 08:51.07 | Sinaloit | How has the reception of the LibStub idea gone over with other addon writers? |
| 08:51.32 | [Ammo] | we're working on better communication about that |
| 08:51.47 | [Ammo] | and not only Ace people have worked on it |
| 08:51.53 | [Ammo] | it's not an ace thing |
| 08:51.54 | krka | wtb more addon frameworks |
| 08:52.04 | [Ammo] | krka: go write one! please |
| 08:52.07 | krka | there isn't enough of them |
| 08:52.31 | norgs|laptop | Auctioneer Advanced is in the process of converting to LibStub |
| 08:52.36 | Sinaloit | name 4 krka! |
| 08:53.15 | [Ammo] | cool norganna |
| 08:53.55 | Sinaloit | Quick addon question, I'm trying to convert an ItemLink for a token into an ItemLink for a redeemed item for a specific class, any of the sets for that class would be fine as long as it for the same slot as the token |
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| 08:53.59 | Sinaloit | what would be the best way? |
| 08:54.22 | [Ammo] | you'd need a database of items |
| 08:54.26 | norgs|laptop | LibStub rocks, btw. Kudos. |
| 08:54.28 | orionshock | ... ive read over lib stub... not much to read.. but still whats wtih the fanboisum..... then again... most of u are authors.. so it makes sence :D |
| 08:54.37 | krka | ace2, ace3, dongle, joker/rock, cosmos (sea or earth or something?) |
| 08:54.44 | [Ammo] | thanks norgs, make sure you pick up r2 :) |
| 08:54.48 | krka | maybe rdx and ct have their own too |
| 08:54.50 | norgs|laptop | r2? |
| 08:54.51 | [Ammo] | since we had an oops |
| 08:54.54 | [Ammo] | revision 2 |
| 08:54.57 | norgs|laptop | 4? |
| 08:55.09 | [Ammo] | the $Revision: $ string was left in |
| 08:55.13 | norgs|laptop | you tallking about minor revision 4? |
| 08:55.15 | [Ammo] | instead of a normal number |
| 08:55.18 | [Ammo] | yeah probably |
| 08:55.20 | Sinaloit | Sea/Earth were parts of Cosmos not sure i'd say that they were seperate, Sea was function collections, Earth was a frame creation library (never checked if they ever finished it) |
| 08:55.22 | [Ammo] | get the latest tag |
| 08:55.38 | norgs|laptop | pretty sure that's what we've got |
| 08:55.45 | [Ammo] | okiedokie |
| 08:56.18 | Sinaloit | [Ammo] yeah I was hoping I could use PT3's database and fish it out of there so it'd be updated automagically, any hope of that or would I have to build it myself |
| 08:56.30 | [Ammo] | I don't know if it's in the PT3 database |
| 08:56.42 | norgs|laptop | ER |
| 08:56.44 | norgs|laptop | er |
| 08:57.15 | mitch0 | [ammo]: so, any writeup about ace3 available? goals, changes from ace2, that kind of stuff? |
| 08:57.20 | Sinaloit | they are but its kinda odd, [Misc.Curency.Tier #] is a list of all the tokens, then theres [GearSet.Tier #.Class.Type] as a list of the items themselves, they don't appear to be in any specific order |
| 08:57.26 | [Ammo] | mitch0: nope |
| 08:57.30 | norgs|laptop | ok, the tagged 1.0 had the $revision$ still in it this morning, so i grabbed LibStub from trunk |
| 08:57.40 | Sinaloit | and i'm not that familiar with using PT3 |
| 08:57.48 | [Ammo] | I had hoped kaelten tagged it properly |
| 08:58.12 | Xinhuan | nope heh |
| 08:58.13 | Kaelten | fixed the tag today |
| 08:58.15 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
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| 08:58.50 | [Ammo] | mitch0: we're doing development with a team quite similar to the libstub team atm |
| 08:59.11 | art3mis | man cube 2 ends so badly |
| 08:59.19 | norgs|laptop | that should be alright though? same minor version, just more comments in trunk? |
| 08:59.30 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:59.41 | [Ammo] | if you want the noncomment version use the tag |
| 08:59.43 | norgs|laptop | (minor version is 2, by the way... dunno where i got 4 from :/) |
| 08:59.54 | art3mis | so out of curiosity |
| 09:00.06 | [Ammo] | yeah should be 2 |
| 09:00.07 | art3mis | are all the libs more or less multiple attemtps are roughly the same ideals? |
| 09:00.19 | mitch0 | art3mis: cube 2 is that canadian "sci-fi" thing? |
| 09:00.32 | art3mis | yeah was a sequel to Cube |
| 09:00.38 | art3mis | which was pretty original and decent |
| 09:00.46 | mitch0 | ar3mis: most horrible movies I've seen I think :) |
| 09:00.50 | Xinhuan | !ap 2000 |
| 09:00.50 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 711, 3v3: 812, 5v5: 1015 |
| 09:00.53 | art3mis | 2 was pretty but lacked some of the fundamental elements that man 1 great |
| 09:01.08 | art3mis | the idea behind 1 was great |
| 09:01.21 | [Ammo] | art3mis: Rock's goal is on the wiki, as for Ace3 it's aiming for minimalistic efficiency, something we've lost sight of in Ace2 |
| 09:01.22 | art3mis | the m,ain problem is visualization of a hypercube |
| 09:01.27 | [Ammo] | less interdependancies |
| 09:01.36 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 09:01.46 | mitch0 | I sorta don't remember now. all I remember is endless lameness from room to room, some survival thingy, some drama thingy, but all in all pretty boring |
| 09:01.46 | Sinaloit | [Ammo] PT:ItemSearch(item) seems to be how to find the set it belongs to and I could parse off the Tier # from that, but not sure how to use PT3 to get a set without knowing the full name of the set as i'd only have [GearSet.Tier #.Class] |
| 09:01.57 | [Ammo] | I have no idea how to use PT3 :) |
| 09:01.57 | art3mis | my head still hurts when i try and picture more tha 3 physical dimensions |
| 09:02.08 | Sinaloit | Oh well :\ |
| 09:02.27 | art3mis | [Ammo]: eyah nutshelled it seems that they all attempt to do roughly the same thing only with a different way to get to the end point |
| 09:02.47 | [Ammo] | somewhat yeah |
| 09:02.48 | art3mis | how does libstub fit into it though |
| 09:03.01 | [Ammo] | libstub = generic lib stub |
| 09:03.03 | art3mis | i swore that was created asa filler piece |
| 09:03.06 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:03.07 | mitch0 | libstub is a glue-sort-of-thing, afaik |
| 09:03.13 | art3mis | filler/glue |
| 09:03.18 | [Ammo] | it is created as a generic, non-framework library system |
| 09:03.20 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r48056 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 09:03.20 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 09:03.20 | CIA-14 | - Added the new Ragesteel Shoulders to its set. |
| 09:03.23 | art3mis | not filler as in "we had nothing ebtter to do" |
| 09:03.40 | art3mis | and cosmos? |
| 09:03.41 | [Ammo] | it will also enable us to make sure libraries will be as much independant as possible |
| 09:03.58 | art3mis | oh i had a question |
| 09:04.02 | art3mis | regarding libs that is |
| 09:04.11 | [Ammo] | ofcourse we will have to go through all of em and make them that way |
| 09:04.12 | art3mis | if you take something like periodic |
| 09:04.28 | art3mis | lets say you only use a small portion of it, is the entire lib loaded? |
| 09:04.45 | [Ammo] | the goal is to open up more of the libraries for use within addons outside of ace |
| 09:04.46 | art3mis | not just the related parts you call/use |
| 09:05.04 | art3mis | thats one thing ive never quite udnerstood |
| 09:05.06 | art3mis | under |
| 09:05.08 | abbat_w | pff... |
| 09:05.21 | doktoreas | is there a casting bar in ace2 ? |
| 09:05.25 | art3mis | quartz |
| 09:05.27 | orionshock | PT is broken up in to many parts, so only that part u need is loaded |
| 09:05.32 | abbat_w | i hope Rock or ace3 will remove unused znZN or twTW localizations from my memory ;) |
| 09:05.35 | Sinaloit | CBRipoff, Quartz |
| 09:05.36 | doktoreas | art3mis: thx i'll check it out |
| 09:05.39 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: it does already |
| 09:05.43 | [Ammo] | they are GCd |
| 09:06.03 | art3mis | orionshock: true but the entire thing is laoded right? like lets say you only wanted the water section from consumables, would it laod the food stuff as well? |
| 09:06.22 | [Ammo] | art3mis: it will load everything needed but only unpack the parts you really use |
| 09:06.23 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 09:06.31 | art3mis | ahh |
| 09:06.31 | [Ammo] | so you can split PT3 into LoD |
| 09:06.37 | [Ammo] | and it'll load the LoD parts you need |
| 09:06.42 | Xinhuan | !ar 835 |
| 09:06.42 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Arena rating from 835 points is, 2v2: 2187, 3v3: 2025, 5v5: 1855 |
| 09:06.48 | art3mis | was wondering if thats a limitation or if its capable of loading smaller portions |
| 09:07.07 | abbat_w | !ap 1900 |
| 09:07.07 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Arena points from a rating of 1900 is, 2v2: 626, 3v3: 715, 5v5: 894 |
| 09:07.17 | art3mis | like lets say you've got a math lib in AceMath, and it's broken into sub aprts called addition subtraction multiply division. |
| 09:07.20 | abbat_w | !ap 1950 |
| 09:07.20 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Arena points from a rating of 1950 is, 2v2: 669, 3v3: 765, 5v5: 957 |
| 09:07.24 | [Ammo] | art3mis: argh |
| 09:07.26 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:07.29 | Sinaloit | art3mis: WAU splits it automatically into its LoD Parts currently |
| 09:07.30 | art3mis | AceMath references them all and knows what parts are where |
| 09:07.41 | Sinaloit | art3mis: PT3 that is |
| 09:07.46 | [Ammo] | PT3 is split into several LoD parst |
| 09:07.47 | art3mis | [Ammo]: im thinking bare with me a sec |
| 09:07.52 | [Ammo] | only those used are loaded |
| 09:07.57 | [Ammo] | and only the portions you really use are unpacked |
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| 09:08.06 | [Ammo] | (if I remember correctly) |
| 09:08.10 | abbat_w | Anyway i know who win |
| 09:08.24 | abbat_w | Who first make good implementation of Waterfall lib ;) |
| 09:08.24 | Sinaloit | yeah it does unpack stuff. I believe it stores it in base36 or something like that |
| 09:08.57 | [Ammo] | if you however have Mendeleev installed it'll all be usde :) |
| 09:09.15 | art3mis | so you're not getting additional overhwead from the lib portions that arent called in any addons you have? |
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| 09:09.24 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 09:09.29 | Sinaloit | depends on the library |
| 09:09.29 | art3mis | oh okay |
| 09:09.37 | [Ammo] | unless you have PT3browser or mendeleev installed |
| 09:09.40 | art3mis | that was one aprt that always confused me about lib conflicts |
| 09:09.43 | [Ammo] | then it'll all get loaded eventually |
| 09:09.51 | Sinaloit | heya Antiarc |
| 09:09.55 | [Ammo] | but that's PT3 specific |
| 09:10.07 | Antiarc | evening |
| 09:10.40 | art3mis | so whos gonna develop the connector lib that allows for cross support amoungst all the libs? |
| 09:10.52 | [Ammo] | boggle? |
| 09:10.56 | [Ammo] | there is no need |
| 09:10.58 | Sinaloit | Antiarc: Checked the threat thread recently? some people clammoring about bugs in it. |
| 09:11.05 | Antiarc | Heh, no, I should |
| 09:11.08 | Antiarc | Been busy :) |
| 09:11.25 | Punkie` | art3mis: what on earth are you talking about? :P |
| 09:11.27 | asmodai | Oh funny, never realised curse was done with Django |
| 09:11.28 | [Ammo] | LibStub makes sure anyone can use a lib ace, dongle, rock, auctioneer etc |
| 09:11.29 | art3mis | wouldnt it make it easier to have each flavour depending on the lib you prefer? |
| 09:11.38 | art3mis | ahhh |
| 09:11.40 | art3mis | okay |
| 09:11.45 | [Ammo] | but the lib needs to be written well |
| 09:11.47 | [Ammo] | and independant |
| 09:11.55 | [Ammo] | as they should have been from the start |
| 09:11.59 | Nargiddley | art3mis, the idea of libstub is that libs can be loaded by whatever framework |
| 09:12.12 | sylvanaar | i dont see how it does any of that |
| 09:12.27 | Sinaloit | Antiarc: Maybe you could get Ammo to setup a project for you in Jira and point people to it heh |
| 09:12.33 | sylvanaar | other than the very first bit |
| 09:12.34 | Antiarc | Yeah, I need to |
| 09:12.51 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: once a lib is written independant it can |
| 09:12.53 | [Ammo] | and they should have been |
| 09:13.05 | [Ammo] | and they will be again |
| 09:13.07 | norgs|laptop | art3mis: What I use libstub for is not to load external libs, but to make sure that I only have one version (the latest) of my libs loaded at once. If I release a newer version of the same lib, I don't have an older version in the way. |
| 09:13.08 | art3mis | Nargiddley: and the end result is the abiltiy to call whatever from where ever regardless of initial "platform" it was built for? |
| 09:13.23 | mitch0 | "[Ammo]and independant" <- does that mean that libs shouldn't use other libs? |
| 09:13.27 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 09:13.37 | [Ammo] | or if they do, it should be an optional lazy binding |
| 09:13.38 | mitch0 | that kinda defeats the purpose of libs... |
| 09:13.41 | [Ammo] | no it doesn't |
| 09:13.54 | [Ammo] | and that's exactly where Ace2 went wrong |
| 09:14.03 | art3mis | i suppose the easiest way to think about it is cross platform |
| 09:14.03 | mitch0 | erm, so I should duplicate gratuity, babble, and probly some others? |
| 09:14.03 | [Ammo] | interdependancies across the board |
| 09:14.07 | mitch0 | sounds fun... |
| 09:14.15 | sylvanaar | you are evangelizing now, libstub provides a small api to reference and load embedded libraries |
| 09:14.24 | Nargiddley | it means you dont need AceLibrary to use them, you just need one of the compatible frameworks |
| 09:14.30 | [Ammo] | I'm just saying where Ace2 went wrong |
| 09:14.32 | art3mis | we've now for rock ace and stub |
| 09:14.35 | [Ammo] | and we're correcting that |
| 09:14.43 | [Ammo] | LibStub is the first step |
| 09:15.20 | art3mis | silly silly silly |
| 09:15.28 | norgs|laptop | LibStub is awesome because it's a very simple building block that doesn't try to achieve more than what it's desinged to do |
| 09:15.36 | art3mis | the thing i liked about ace was that it was all one mind |
| 09:15.48 | Punkie` | ??? |
| 09:15.52 | art3mis | sadly we've had a physchic break ;P |
| 09:16.01 | art3mis | spelt correctly |
| 09:16.04 | sylvanaar | yes, thats because you guys just coded it - dont kid yourselves too much |
| 09:16.20 | art3mis | sylvanaar: prats yers right? |
| 09:16.30 | mitch0 | well, I don't see how the more complex libs would do without either code duplications (horrorz) or depending on other existing libs |
| 09:16.32 | sylvanaar | it will age just like everything else |
| 09:16.32 | art3mis | ive lost track ;P |
| 09:17.19 | art3mis | i have a feeling we're gonna suffer from the same thing OS's do |
| 09:17.30 | art3mis | everyone will clamour to suport the one thats first not the ones thast best |
| 09:18.31 | mitch0 | art3mis: nah, ace2 is good enough as it is. we have plenty of time to wait out which one gets best :) |
| 09:18.57 | abbat_w | Guys |
| 09:19.08 | abbat_w | Where i can get wondefull LibStub? :) |
| 09:19.27 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: you don't |
| 09:19.30 | art3mis | mitch; you say that now.... ;) |
| 09:19.35 | [Ammo] | it's included in the libraries that use it |
| 09:19.35 | abbat_w | only for see! |
| 09:19.40 | abbat_w | ah |
| 09:19.42 | [Ammo] | it's in svn trunk |
| 09:20.11 | Sinaloit | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/LibStub |
| 09:20.35 | art3mis | sylvanaar: does prat contain the ability "gag" people without putting them on ignore? |
| 09:20.41 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 09:20.48 | art3mis | groovy |
| 09:20.58 | art3mis | someone was asking earlier so i got curious ;P |
| 09:21.18 | sylvanaar | but, its not done for you, you have to add a few lines of code |
| 09:21.22 | Sinaloit | last try before i get some Zzzzs, anyone here know much about PT3? |
| 09:21.42 | art3mis | well thats inconvienient ;P |
| 09:21.59 | art3mis | depends on what you ened to know sin ;P |
| 09:22.04 | art3mis | just ask away ;P |
| 09:22.23 | Sinaloit | not sure how to use PT3 to get a set without knowing the full name of the set as i'd only have [GearSet.Tier #.Class] |
| 09:22.55 | Sinaloit | the full setname woudl be for example: "GearSet.Tier 4.Rogue.Netherblade" |
| 09:23.03 | Sinaloit | and I'd have "GearSet.Tier 4.Rogue" |
| 09:23.44 | Sinaloit | I know theres a failure point in that most classes have more than 1 set, but any the possible sets would be fine for my purposes |
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| 09:24.27 | art3mis | oh, well that i ahvent the foggiest... wait a couple of mins and someone is bound to explain though, they cant help themselves ;P |
| 09:24.45 | sylvanaar | cant you get a list of sets and get the first name |
| 09:25.05 | Sinaloit | I thought you needed to provide the full setname, IE: "GearSet.Tier 4.Rogue.Netherblade" |
| 09:25.30 | abbat_w | Sinaloit, hmm... it's a good url what you take to me |
| 09:25.58 | sylvanaar | cant you get Netherblade from "GearSet.Tier 4.Rogue" |
| 09:26.20 | Sinaloit | tbh I've not tried that yet lol, thought that the set was the whole name, and partials wouldn't work |
| 09:27.11 | sylvanaar | i dont know - few people know much about PT3 nymbia was one |
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| 09:27.38 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:27.38 | CIA-14 | -Boss: updated zhTW localization |
| 09:28.10 | Sinaloit | from whats in the PeriodicTable-3.0.lua it stores it as set[setname]=data, unless theres something going on in the indexer to break it apart |
| 09:28.15 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r48058 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/zhTW.lua: |
| 09:28.15 | CIA-14 | Cartographer: |
| 09:28.15 | CIA-14 | -InstanceNotes: updated zhTW localization |
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| 09:30.04 | Sinaloit | sylvanaar: couldn't see anything about modifying how the key is used, only how the data is presented for that key |
| 09:30.31 | sylvanaar | just substring match the key then |
| 09:31.00 | Sinaloit | sylvanaar: any idea on how to do that short of iterating through all the sets? |
| 09:31.30 | sylvanaar | get a reference to the table then use a for loop |
| 09:31.48 | Sinaloit | sylvanaar: thats iterating through all the sets |
| 09:32.18 | Sinaloit | sylvanaar: I meant the set names not the set contents incase I wasn't being clear, i'm a bit tired, sorry :) |
| 09:32.57 | Nargiddley | Sinaloit, you want to go from token link to gear link ? |
| 09:33.31 | sylvanaar | you said any "GearSet.Tier 4.Rogue." would work for you |
| 09:33.41 | Sinaloit | Nargiddley: Correct |
| 09:33.52 | Nargiddley | Sinaloit, pt:ItemSearch([Token]) |
| 09:34.04 | Nargiddley | will give you something a table with the sets its in |
| 09:34.26 | Nargiddley | from looking it has something like "Misc.Currency.Tier Sets.Tier 5" |
| 09:34.28 | Sinaloit | Nargiddley: Yeah, thats how i determine the tier, then add the class on the end of that, then i'm back where i was at the initial question |
| 09:34.54 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r48059 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 09:34.54 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 09:34.54 | CIA-14 | - Added 2 quest items to Maraudon |
| 09:35.19 | Nargiddley | hmm |
| 09:35.24 | Sinaloit | I guess it comes down to iterating through the sets and looking at the key name |
| 09:36.59 | Nargiddley | you could iterate through the set that you're up to |
| 09:37.27 | Sinaloit | local PTSets, _ = PT3:getUpgradeData() for k,v in ipairs(PTSets) do <stuff> end |
| 09:37.42 | Sinaloit | Nargiddley: I can't seem to find a way to get a set w/ a partial string |
| 09:38.13 | Nargiddley | iterate the set, then :IsInSet(item, base set) |
| 09:38.26 | Nargiddley | it gives you the most specific set that item is in |
| 09:38.42 | Nargiddley | :ItemInSet |
| 09:38.49 | Sinaloit | Nargiddley: But I dont have the item, other than the token.. and I already know what set thats in |
| 09:39.13 | sylvanaar | Misc.Currency.Tier Sets.Tier 4 |
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| 09:39.18 | Sinaloit | yes |
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| 09:40.55 | Sinaloit | so I'd do a :match and snag the 4 off the end of that, and use it to build the: "GearSet.Tier X.Class." string that i'd compare to the for k,v in ipairs(PTSets) do I mentioned above |
| 09:41.14 | Grum | i wish you could easily do something like: 'item has +nature resist' :) |
| 09:41.30 | Sinaloit | I guess, unless someone sees a better/more efficient way, my possible concern is if GearSet is LoD how does it know to Load so that it'll be present? |
| 09:42.17 | Sinaloit | Misc isn't LoD so thats automatically loaded |
| 09:43.30 | Sinaloit | [Ammo] is [Ammoo] your Tauren self? |
| 09:43.35 | [Ammo] | yeah |
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| 09:43.52 | [Ammo] | he's just there for when this server loses connection :) |
| 09:44.27 | Grum | curious why he is in here then =D |
| 09:44.30 | Grum | you need the logs orso? ;P |
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| 09:45.29 | [Ammo] | it's just a screen with irssi on another server than the one I am on now |
| 09:45.47 | [Ammo] | and yeah, I won't miss logs ;) |
| 09:45.51 | sylvanaar | makeNonPresentMultiSet() |
| 09:46.26 | Nargiddley | Sinaloit, http://narg.pastey.net/73323 |
| 09:46.39 | Nargiddley | gets you every rogue tier 4 itemid + its full set name |
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| 09:47.41 | Sinaloit | Nargiddley: cool |
| 09:47.56 | Sinaloit | Nargiddley: thanks, that shoudl help i'll have to mess with it |
| 09:49.00 | Nargiddley | basicly :ItemInSet([Rogue Tier 4 Item], "GearSet") would return true, "GearSet.Tier 4.Rogue.NetherBlade" |
| 09:49.08 | Nargiddley | tells you the most specific set its in |
| 09:49.41 | yoshimo | since yesterday my WAU crashes with http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7973/wowacecrashkm5.gif |
| 09:50.05 | Ominous_ | i am right when i say it dosent have to be a warrior/druid that tanks netherspite, arnt i? |
| 09:50.44 | Sinaloit | Nargiddley: again though I dont have the tier item, i'm looking for it though |
| 09:51.05 | Sinaloit | Nargiddley: the IterateSet might be what I need though |
| 09:51.16 | sylvanaar | and that means what, the identiy does not match? |
| 09:51.41 | Sinaloit | I recall that theres been some issues with WAU and german locales, look on the forum |
| 09:52.26 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r48060 10AtlasLoot/ (Core/TextParsing.lua Instances/instances.en.lua): |
| 09:52.26 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:52.26 | CIA-14 | - Added links to the Elders located on the maps to the Lunar Festival page. |
| 09:52.26 | CIA-14 | - Added "Graveyard" to Scorn's location. |
| 09:52.32 | sylvanaar | no, its on the thread - the key was changed, so you have to reinstall |
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| 09:53.14 | sylvanaar | because the identity of the server version wont match your local one |
| 09:53.47 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r48061 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (WorldEvents.en.lua WorldRaidBosses.en.lua): |
| 09:53.47 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 09:53.47 | CIA-14 | - Added "Graveyard" to Scorn's location. |
| 09:53.47 | CIA-14 | - Cosmetic change to the worldraidbosses file. |
| 09:54.36 | sylvanaar | that error message is great an exception that could not be handled |
| 09:56.10 | Sinaloit | w/ WAU the auto dependancy, how does it determine what to download, parse the optdeps? |
| 09:56.30 | sylvanaar | from the rss feed |
| 09:57.02 | Sinaloit | And the feed gets it from optdeps? |
| 09:57.19 | sylvanaar | x-embeds for sure |
| 09:57.35 | Sinaloit | Sylvanaar: Just curious because BigBrother decided I needed to install ParserLib, when I already have Parser-3.0 installed |
| 09:57.45 | sylvanaar | something references it |
| 09:57.57 | Sinaloit | Which reminded me why I had that feature turne off heh |
| 09:58.10 | Grum | oe btw i found the addon causing 'No player named XXX' when that player just logged off .. it was itemdb and likely inventorylib below it sharing data |
| 09:58.34 | sylvanaar | why cant those libraries disable oneanother |
| 09:58.59 | Sinaloit | Well if they disabled each other who gets to decide who disables who? |
| 09:59.11 | Sinaloit | first one to swing fast enough? |
| 09:59.36 | sylvanaar | well, parser isnt acelibrary loadable so you can diable it right |
| 10:00.22 | Sinaloit | yeah, I was trying to pare out the addons that I was never using and only having disabled so next patch they don't re-enable. It still does that right? |
| 10:00.52 | sylvanaar | put an svn folder in them |
| 10:01.15 | sylvanaar | thats the easiest way |
| 10:02.36 | sylvanaar | actually i dont know what you meant, i may have answered a different question than you asked |
| 10:02.55 | abbat_w | guys, which addon allow to see addon tables? |
| 10:03.08 | abbat_w | waterfall option tables for example |
| 10:03.16 | sylvanaar | aceconsole |
| 10:03.22 | sylvanaar | debugfu |
| 10:03.34 | abbat_w | sylvanaar :-* |
| 10:03.37 | Sinaloit | If i recall correctly WoW updates re-enable all your disabled addons don't they? or does it just turn off run out of date addons |
| 10:03.44 | abbat_w | debuffu it's for me i think |
| 10:03.51 | Sinaloit | tableinspector is pretty spiffy |
| 10:04.12 | Sinaloit | then you can /ti <table> and see stuff/click on other tables to dig down |
| 10:04.40 | sylvanaar | Sinaloit no - acelibrary just enables and loads disabled libs instead of trowing an error and dieing if it can |
| 10:04.45 | abbat_w | hmm.. grab this one too |
| 10:05.07 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:05.19 | sylvanaar | you can use devtools also |
| 10:05.40 | abbat_w | yep! devtools. forget about it |
| 10:05.57 | sylvanaar | i like aceconsole's version of /dump better |
| 10:07.10 | Sinaloit | Anyway time for me to sleep i'll mess with PT3 stuff tomorrow! |
| 10:07.22 | abbat_w | btw, no Waterfall documentation exists? |
| 10:07.41 | abbat_w | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Waterfall-1.0 - very very small ;) |
| 10:07.55 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | waterfall builds its choices from your AceOptionsTable if i recall correctly? |
| 10:08.24 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | the same thing you can use to build a menu for a fubarplugin/console commands |
| 10:08.35 | abbat_w | yes |
| 10:08.40 | Nargiddley | yeah but there is an API as well, but i havent documented it |
| 10:08.59 | Nargiddley | Baggins and FlexBar2 use it |
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| 10:09.17 | abbat_w | Nargiddley, maybe you have good example of waterfall? Where i can find something about passValue etc |
| 10:09.40 | Nargiddley | thats just standard AceOptions |
| 10:10.04 | abbat_w | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table |
| 10:10.06 | abbat_w | this one? |
| 10:10.09 | Nargiddley | yep |
| 10:11.19 | abbat_w | I implement renaming of tree nodes and have some troubles with opts |
| 10:11.26 | Nargiddley | basicly if you supply one it will be passed to set, get, func and disabled and hidden functions for that option |
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| 10:13.20 | abbat_w | but some get/set fucntion have 2 args. one is passValue and second 'current' value |
| 10:13.35 | Nargiddley | current value ? |
| 10:13.43 | Nargiddley | you mean the set func ? |
| 10:13.51 | abbat_w | yes |
| 10:13.51 | Nargiddley | or for passGroups |
| 10:14.00 | Nargiddley | set(value) becomes set(passValue, value) |
| 10:14.54 | abbat_w | hmm.. thanks, now i understand |
| 10:20.03 | Madrak | bah |
| 10:22.34 | CIA-14 | 03jerry * r48062 10PitBull_AltAura/ (buffs.lua core.lua options.lua update.lua): PitBull_AltAura: Port back nemes support of weapon buff. |
| 10:23.00 | abbat_w | altaura? |
| 10:23.46 | abbat_w | ~seen jerry |
| 10:23.49 | purl | jerry <n=jerry@p508BE3C3.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 230d 8h 4m 15s ago, saying: 'abrotman: please part.'. |
| 10:23.55 | abbat_w | pfff |
| 10:24.29 | Diao | it replaces the default aura |
| 10:24.32 | Diao | less buggy or something? |
| 10:25.04 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r48063 10ORLIC/whisperstring.xml: ORLIC: Added an export string option in tell queue window so users can copy/paste interest info. |
| 10:26.04 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48064 10Ace3/AceModuleCore-3.0/AceModuleCore-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceModuleCore-3.0 - cleanup, add OnInit handling, fix typo in NewModule |
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| 10:36.24 | ramoz | Any addons that use Ace3? |
| 10:38.35 | Sole | yeah |
| 10:38.46 | Sole | theres a ton of addons using an incomplete framework :P |
| 10:38.58 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.19 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48065 10Ace3/AceModuleCore-3.0/AceModuleCore-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceModuleCore-3.0 - Fix upgrading of old embeds |
| 10:43.18 | ramoz | Sole: well, maybe something to test it |
| 10:43.22 | ramoz | like, hm |
| 10:43.32 | ramoz | ckknight made one (was it parrot?) |
| 10:43.48 | Sole | parrot was written about a month ago |
| 10:43.50 | Sole | on ace2 |
| 10:44.33 | Flexom | ck made a librock version |
| 10:44.35 | [Ammo] | ramoz: it's not even set in stone and under heavey change |
| 10:44.41 | Nargiddley | ckknight ported CowTip to Joker (now called Rock) which isnt Ace3 |
| 10:44.43 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r48066 10ORLIC/ (Core.lua Framework.lua Locale-enUS.lua Orlic.toc options.lua): ORLIC: Increased the granularity of some of the ORLIC messages. Added an export string option in tell queue window so users can copy/paste interest info. |
| 10:44.45 | ramoz | ah |
| 10:44.48 | ramoz | CowTip |
| 10:44.54 | ramoz | [Ammo]: ok |
| 10:53.00 | sylvanaar | ORLIC sounds like its from dr who |
| 10:53.19 | sylvanaar | those are darlic's thats right |
| 10:54.39 | sag_ich_nicht | daleks you noob :O |
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| 10:58.42 | Madrak | lol |
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| 11:02.39 | sylvanaar | gloified teapots |
| 11:03.51 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r48067 10FuBar_ArenaFu/ (4 files): |
| 11:03.51 | CIA-14 | FuBar_ArenaFu - v 0.8 |
| 11:03.51 | CIA-14 | - don't display self in team player list and don't count self in online count |
| 11:03.51 | CIA-14 | - add click func |
| 11:03.51 | CIA-14 | - fix bugs in count online |
| 11:05.37 | Hjalte | So will it be ace3 vs rock or will they merge/work together? |
| 11:06.20 | Punkie` | they are seperate frameworks |
| 11:06.24 | sylvanaar | Occams Razor Loot Interest Com |
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| 11:06.50 | sylvanaar | thats a mouthful |
| 11:08.04 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r48068 10FuBar_ArenaFu/ (. embeds.xml): FuBar_ArenaFu - update external, embeds.xml |
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| 11:15.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc you there? |
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| 11:45.10 | CIA-14 | 03jerry * r48070 10PitBull_AltAura/buffs.lua: PitBull_AltAura: bugfix |
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| 12:16.26 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 * r48071 10Elephant/Event-Message.lua: Elephant: Fixing "join" and "leave" messages displaying in a disabled custom channel. |
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| 12:21.19 | neenee | orlic sounds like 'horlicks' |
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| 12:43.27 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r48072 10NBuffBars/ (NBuffBars.toc locales/koKR.lua): NBuffBars: add koKR locals |
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| 12:59.05 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8246.msg134823 |
| 12:59.37 | Hjalte | Bah, I think someone might be using my e-mail adress to send spam. I am sometimes getting tons of "Delivery Notification" mails in my inbox - any ideas to what i can do about it? |
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| 13:01.20 | xyu | change password? |
| 13:01.37 | Hjalte | In the e-mails i can see, that the recipients mail programs thinks the mails are sent from somethingweird@mydomain.com |
| 13:01.43 | Hjalte | No, it's not a password case. |
| 13:01.51 | Hjalte | They are making e-mails look like they come from my domain. |
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| 13:02.01 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 13:02.43 | doktoreas | if i player wanna use KHLT meter, it's enough have also threat-1.0 to send data to Omen users? |
| 13:03.23 | Hjalte | I don't know why you would want to do that doktoreas, but yeah, it would work. |
| 13:03.36 | dodga | Hjalte: Can't do anything about that. One can use any address as From or Reply-To |
| 13:03.43 | doktoreas | cause people wanna use KLHT :( |
| 13:04.03 | Hjalte | dodga, i can't do anything at *all*? |
| 13:04.20 | dodga | If you can add TXT records to the domain in your mail address you can add SPF, but if the remote server does not honor SPF, then you're back at square 1 |
| 13:04.26 | dodga | Hjalte: Nothing at all :o |
| 13:04.42 | Hjalte | That sucks. |
| 13:04.48 | dodga | Well, you can set up a filter to dump bounces to /dev/null |
| 13:05.18 | Hjalte | My e-mail program is getting better at ignoring such mails though - and I could stop having a catch-all adress. |
| 13:05.28 | dodga | Hjalte: I only have some domains and I get hundreds of such bounces from non-existing address every day |
| 13:05.45 | dodga | SMTP sucks, that's the way it is :o |
| 13:05.57 | Hjalte | spammers ought to burn in hell |
| 13:14.14 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 * r48073 10Elephant/Elephant.toc: Elephant: ...is now v2.5 due to heavy code changes. |
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| 13:20.36 | Hjalte | Anyone else having problems with Pitbull_altaura since the update today? |
| 13:22.55 | Punkie` | Did you update since the bugfix? |
| 13:23.20 | Hjalte | Yeah, just updated now. |
| 13:23.34 | Punkie` | ok, well I don't use pitbull anyway :p |
| 13:23.48 | Hjalte | Shame on you then |
| 13:24.01 | Punkie` | Nah |
| 13:24.07 | Punkie` | I would rather barf all over myself |
| 13:24.30 | Hjalte | You using ag_uf then? |
| 13:24.40 | Punkie` | no |
| 13:25.22 | Hjalte | You're weird. |
| 13:25.29 | Hjalte | :P |
| 13:25.56 | Punkie` | I use a self-modified oUF |
| 13:25.56 | sag_ich_nicht | x-perl ftw. |
| 13:26.02 | Punkie` | 55KiB unitframes |
| 13:27.54 | Punkie` | Hjalte: http://www.booncontrol.com/minimalist.JPG (taken ages ago but still the same :p) |
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| 13:28.51 | Hjalte | Punkie`, that's not bad. Are they downloadable from anywhere? |
| 13:29.36 | Punkie` | not really, and have no config so :S |
| 13:29.57 | Punkie` | you need to know some lua and its pretty simple :) |
| 13:30.27 | asmodai | pitbull++ |
| 13:30.56 | asmodai | Punkie`: too minimalist to my tastes :P |
| 13:31.00 | Hjalte | I only know enough lua to configure simplechatmods :< |
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| 13:31.28 | Punkie` | should be enough ;) |
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| 13:37.32 | Pkekyo | what does 'DIAF' mean? |
| 13:38.01 | JoshBorke | die in a fire |
| 13:38.09 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 13:38.33 | Pkekyo | only semi-relevant answer I could get earlier was 'Dirty Inbred American Fucktards' O.o |
| 13:38.43 | Zicon | If you use that expression often enough to warrant an abbreviation, you may need to find a new crowd to hang out with. :p |
| 13:39.06 | Pkekyo | Zicon: never used it, just wanted to know what it meant |
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| 13:42.21 | Pkekyo | also: g'morning all |
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| 13:53.58 | Mecdemort | is there any way to format a dewdrop name for right alignment? |
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| 13:59.53 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r48075 10Tattle/ (15 files in 9 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
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| 13:59.53 | Pkekyo | Tattle? dataminer? wha? |
| 13:59.53 | Hjalte | I'm in your armory, stealing your dataz |
| 14:01.00 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 14:01.00 | Mecdemort | i wonder if blizz will ever give an API to access the armory ingame |
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| 14:01.37 | Pkekyo | probably not |
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| 14:02.00 | Pkekyo | wow is lagged enough as it is, and blizz haven't exactly been known to make high-speed solutions |
| 14:02.47 | Pkekyo | going to bed...laters all |
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| 14:08.24 | CIA-14 | 03phyber * r48076 10FuBar_DigiCamFu/ (DigiCamFuLocale-deDE.lua FuBar_DigiCamFu.toc): |
| 14:08.24 | CIA-14 | FuBar_DigiCamFu: |
| 14:08.24 | CIA-14 | - Added deDE localisation from Farook. |
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| 14:20.22 | Hjalte | Punkie`, does oUF support any mobhealth addon? |
| 14:20.50 | Punkie` | you can make it do that if you want |
| 14:21.31 | Punkie` | read mobhealth3 API and then just edit health.lua easily :) |
| 14:23.13 | Hjalte | Punkie`, I'll try that :P |
| 14:26.51 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | Seriously why is there an INVTYPE_ROBE and INVTYPE_CHEST |
| 14:27.15 | cryogen | why not? |
| 14:27.31 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | dont they go in the same equipment slot? |
| 14:27.38 | cryogen | yep |
| 14:27.43 | cryogen | but they are clearly different! |
| 14:27.45 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | who cares if its a dress or a breastplate... you put it on your body |
| 14:27.56 | cryogen | you obviosuly are not a cloth user |
| 14:27.59 | cryogen | heathen! |
| 14:28.03 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | actually I play a priest :P |
| 14:28.08 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | and a paladin, so i see both sides! |
| 14:28.09 | cryogen | then you should be ashamed |
| 14:28.13 | cryogen | its a key difference! |
| 14:28.31 | cryogen | they even made tunic and robe in the tailoring stuff |
| 14:28.33 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | I was thinking more in a coding simplicity thing... |
| 14:28.38 | cryogen | :) |
| 14:28.49 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | you shouldn't have to do: if chest or robe then chest |
| 14:29.17 | cryogen | but wouldnt it be nice to, for example, seperate robe and chest in a bad addon? or a ah addon? |
| 14:29.31 | cryogen | bag* |
| 14:29.42 | Shirik | most addons don't care if it's a "robe" |
| 14:30.03 | cryogen | ye right, but if you remove the distinction the ones that do care stop working |
| 14:31.49 | cryogen | and isnt it nice that those addons exist for those that want them? |
| 14:31.50 | Shirik | true |
| 14:31.50 | Shirik | both sides are debatable |
| 14:31.50 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | so have a field that is a more specific description of the item and one for a wear position... |
| 14:31.50 | Shirik | fact of the matter, it's what Blizzard decided to do; end of story :P |
| 14:31.50 | cryogen | as long as you are aware the quirk exists i wouldnt see if as a big problem |
| 14:31.50 | cryogen | indeed :) |
| 14:31.50 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | then you could differentiate between shoulderpads and pauldrons |
| 14:31.50 | cryogen | i bet their reason is not the reason im advocating either |
| 14:31.50 | Shirik | heh |
| 14:31.50 | cryogen | blizzard are random |
| 14:31.50 | Shirik | "Shoulderpads" makes me think of football |
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| 14:46.34 | CIA-14 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r48077 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0/AceEvent-3.0.lua: |
| 14:46.34 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - AceEvent: |
| 14:46.34 | CIA-14 | - Add comment about new table members having to live outside of if clause |
| 14:48.32 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48078 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 14:48.33 | CIA-14 | Ace3: AceAddon-3.0 |
| 14:48.33 | CIA-14 | - merge AceModuleCore-3.0 into AceAddon-3.0. It used just about everything from it already. |
| 14:48.33 | CIA-14 | - functionality remains in tact. |
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| 15:06.23 | CIA-14 | 03ricowan * r48079 10FuBar_PetFu/ (FuBar_PetFu.toc PetFu.lua): FuBar_PetFu: - Still trying to get this to load on demand for hunters and warlocks, updated bar color. |
| 15:06.38 | Dyller | hi, here is any guy from uSA? |
| 15:06.42 | CIA-14 | 03ricowan * r48080 10FuBar_RicoXPFu/RicoXPFu.lua: FuBar_RicoXPFu: - Updated bar color |
| 15:06.47 | Funkeh` | ello |
| 15:07.00 | Dyller | i need a little help |
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| 15:12.03 | Shirik | god forbid you get an answer in 4 minutes |
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| 15:12.31 | Hjalte | Why do you need anyone from the usa, dyller? |
| 15:12.35 | mitch0 | yay, 64bit opera is coming! |
| 15:12.41 | mitch0 | </ot> |
| 15:12.47 | Sinaloit|Zzzz | maybe he got disconnected, You'd think he'd at least ask his question before giving up and logging off |
| 15:12.51 | Shirik | Hjalte: He left a wihle ago |
| 15:12.57 | Shirik | Sinaloit|Zzzz: It definitely says "Client quit" |
| 15:13.10 | Hjalte | Oh.. I don't have quits on :) |
| 15:13.32 | Sinaloit | personally I'd think that Funkeh` saying hello could be interpreted as hi, I'm from the USA |
| 15:14.10 | Shirik | though Funkeh` is from the UK |
| 15:15.12 | Pkekyo | wat the flying fuck is 'starting point for the procedure'?! getting a fuckload of these dll errors lately |
| 15:15.12 | Shirik | (iirc BT is a UK company) |
| 15:15.12 | Shirik | Pkekyo: dllMain() ? |
| 15:15.12 | Funkeh` | I'm from the uk |
| 15:15.12 | Pkekyo | Shirik: huh? |
| 15:15.12 | Shirik | Where are you getting these errors? |
| 15:15.12 | Shirik | A program you're coding? |
| 15:15.19 | Punkie` | Shirik: just look at the time funkeh logged in, he was just saying hello :p |
| 15:15.20 | Pkekyo | err....different software instances |
| 15:15.31 | Shirik | so not something you're coding then? |
| 15:15.34 | Pkekyo | C&C, Halo 2 and such |
| 15:15.36 | Pkekyo | so no... |
| 15:15.46 | Shirik | sounds like one of your DLLs got corrupted and is missing its dllMain() |
| 15:15.48 | Funkeh` | Yeah just in from college really |
| 15:16.13 | Pkekyo | I hate DLLs >.< |
| 15:16.14 | Shirik | given that they're 3D apps |
| 15:16.17 | Shirik | I'd reinstall directx |
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| 15:17.22 | Pkekyo | has something inbetween nothing and nada to do with directx, as it's files that only belong to zeh game |
| 15:17.28 | Punkie` | format |
| 15:18.07 | Pkekyo | you might as well say 'shoot yourself', 'cause that_ain't_happening :) |
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| 15:18.07 | Punkie` | :o |
| 15:18.22 | Pkekyo | sorry if I'm blunt, but 'format' is not the answer to all questions. |
| 15:21.46 | Pkekyo | 42 is... |
| 15:21.46 | Pkekyo | :> |
| 15:21.46 | Punkie` | format is awesome |
| 15:21.46 | Punkie` | btw you could just try windows system restore, sometimes works |
| 15:21.46 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: not unless you either have nothing on your system, or have a severe reinstalling-fetish |
| 15:21.46 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: no, that one just kills my registry and forces a format |
| 15:21.46 | Shirik | ahahahahaha |
| 15:21.46 | Shirik | someone just said |
| 15:21.46 | Sinaloit | if you're formatting, don't forget to FDISK |
| 15:21.46 | Shirik | "Windows system restore sometimes works" |
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| 15:21.46 | Shirik | lol |
| 15:21.47 | Pkekyo | FDISK? |
| 15:21.47 | Punkie` | tbh |
| 15:21.47 | Punkie` | it actually does |
| 15:21.48 | Shirik | oh god fdisk hasn't existed for so long |
| 15:21.48 | Punkie` | funny as it may sound |
| 15:21.48 | Shirik | Punkie`: I know but I had to throw it out there :P |
| 15:21.48 | Sinaloit | bah fdisk still lives! |
| 15:21.48 | Pkekyo | Sinaloit: fdisk? |
| 15:21.48 | Sinaloit | hey anyone online? |
| 15:21.48 | Shirik | partitioning tool |
| 15:21.48 | Sinaloit | in wow that is |
| 15:21.48 | Pkekyo | thought he was talking about floppy disks O.o |
| 15:21.48 | Shirik | a DOS-based one |
| 15:21.48 | Shirik | which used to exist in all early versions of windows |
| 15:21.48 | Shirik | I think it stopped being distributed when NTFS came out |
| 15:21.48 | Pkekyo | which would be severely not cool, as I removed my FDD to make room for another sysfan :> |
| 15:21.48 | Sinaloit | personally I used FDISK quite a bit to destroy partitions and reformat the MBR |
| 15:21.48 | Shirik | on that note I don't even think it works on NTFS |
| 15:21.48 | Sinaloit | you can still use it to delete NTFS partitions |
| 15:21.48 | Shirik | yeah I guess |
| 15:21.48 | Shirik | but not create :) |
| 15:21.48 | Sinaloit | they show up as unknown if i remember right |
| 15:22.07 | Pkekyo | err, what should I do if my bank's websites will only display 'applet crashed' ? |
| 15:22.08 | Sinaloit | ah the bad old days, I can remember reformatting MBRs to get rid of those Bios Overlays Maxtor and WD would install all the time because not everyone had LBA... the people with LBA support didn't need them though! |
| 15:22.27 | Sinaloit | visit your bank in person, if you bring a gun don't forget your mask and getaway car |
| 15:22.48 | Pkekyo | Gun: check |
| 15:22.48 | Pkekyo | Mask: check |
| 15:22.48 | Pkekyo | Car: dude, where's my car? |
| 15:22.55 | Pkekyo | ah, that's right...don't have one :< |
| 15:23.03 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: your computer is obviously fucked |
| 15:23.05 | Punkie` | now go format |
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| 15:23.13 | Shirik | Pkekyo: It's not as bad as when your bank decides to lock your card |
| 15:23.23 | Shirik | And then you call them, verify that it hasn't been stolen |
| 15:23.29 | Shirik | It works for one purchase and then gets locked again |
| 15:23.37 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 15:23.38 | Shirik | So you call them again, go back to step 2 |
| 15:24.20 | Cidan | change banks |
| 15:24.20 | Cidan | :D |
| 15:24.20 | Shirik | it works now |
| 15:24.20 | Pkekyo | problem is, I have a hard time getting to my bank, so it's not really that much of an option |
| 15:24.20 | Shirik | I think |
| 15:24.20 | Sinaloit | buy an HDTV confirm it has been stolen |
| 15:24.20 | Pkekyo | haha |
| 15:24.20 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 15:25.16 | Sinaloit | so no-one is ingame atm? |
| 15:25.18 | cryogen | and then wait for the police to call at your house :) |
| 15:25.49 | Sinaloit | police never called my parents when thier card was stolen, sad but true |
| 15:26.14 | Sinaloit | They told me all about it though... *snicker* |
| 15:26.21 | Punkie` | maybe because a HDTV and blu-ray player wasnt bought ? :D |
| 15:26.30 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 15:27.05 | Sinaloit | There were purchases but i believe they were relatively small |
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| 15:30.58 | Pkekyo | gotta love it when someone steal your credit card and only use it to buy a box of tictacs |
| 15:32.37 | Sinaloit | The theory was it was test purchases, and they were going to make larger ones soon. If I remember right they bought tent poles or something like that, maybe they just wanted to go camping! |
| 15:34.03 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 15:34.28 | Pkekyo | next thing on their shopping list would be a caravan |
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| 15:37.17 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 * r48081 10Elephant/Locale-deDE.lua: Elephant: Updating deDE (thanks to Flup) |
| 15:37.33 | Pkekyo | who the flying fuck would make a 'test purchase' and give the peeps time to shut down the card/account? |
| 15:38.52 | Shirik | Pkekyo: most do something like go to a gas station nearby |
| 15:38.56 | Shirik | immediately before |
| 15:39.06 | Shirik | you don't want to be in a store with tons of people have the card come up "stolen" |
| 15:39.32 | Mecdemort | http://media.putfile.com/ultimateshowdown#start |
| 15:39.37 | Mecdemort | that's just too funny to not pass on |
| 15:40.15 | Shirik | Mecdemort: If that's what I think it is |
| 15:40.15 | Pkekyo | Shirik: we don't have that here...either it's 'Accepted' or 'Not accepted'... |
| 15:40.15 | Shirik | it's awesome |
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| 15:41.24 | Pkekyo | how the hell would Aaron Carter beat up Shaq? O.o |
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| 15:43.07 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 15:43.42 | Pkekyo | seriously...HOW?! |
| 15:44.21 | Mecdemort | the batmobile got him in the end, so its all good |
| 15:44.34 | Pkekyo | no, seriously, HOW? |
| 15:46.00 | Mecdemort | he surprised shaq with his uber emoness |
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| 15:46.17 | Pkekyo | methinks he gayed shaq to death tbh |
| 15:46.23 | Punkie` | seriously, it's a flash animation |
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| 15:46.29 | Punkie` | it doesn't have to make sense |
| 15:47.00 | Mecdemort | too true |
| 15:47.04 | Pkekyo | I'd still like to see shaq beat the shit outta that emokid rather than the opposite |
| 15:47.13 | Punkie` | why? |
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| 15:47.18 | Punkie` | it's not like you know him |
| 15:47.20 | Sinaloit | anyone mind peeking at http://ace.pastey.net/73330 and see if i horridly mangled it, or if theres a more optimized way to do it? |
| 15:47.24 | Mecdemort | i think my favorite part is godzilla taking a bite out of optmius prime like scruff mcgruff took a bite out of crime |
| 15:48.47 | Pkekyo | agreed |
| 15:48.47 | Sinaloit | er http://ace.pastey.net/73331 |
| 15:48.52 | Mecdemort | Sinaloit: != should be ~= |
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| 15:49.42 | Sinaloit | http://ace.pastey.net/73332 then! hehe |
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| 15:53.32 | Mecdemort | line 30 might work differently then you intend |
| 15:53.33 | Sinaloit | howso? |
| 15:54.09 | Mecdemort | do you want if (itemEquipLoc == invType or invType == "INVTYPE_CHEST") and itemEquipLoc == "INVTYPE_ROBE" then --or-- if itemEquipLoc == invType or (invType == "INVTYPE_CHEST" and itemEquipLoc == "INVTYPE_ROBE") then |
| 15:54.27 | Sinaloit | the 2nd |
| 15:54.42 | Mecdemort | nvm then |
| 15:55.20 | Sinaloit | why would you ever want the 1st =) |
| 15:55.43 | Mecdemort | i dunno im just looking at the semantics not the actual tests |
| 15:55.53 | Sinaloit | although looking at it i'm not sure its going to work as is for that line |
| 15:56.08 | Sinaloit | nm wait it will |
| 15:57.01 | CIA-14 | 03speeddymon * r48082 10FuBar_DigiCamFu/ (. DigiCamFuLocale-deDE.lua): |
| 15:57.01 | CIA-14 | FuBar_DigiCamFu: |
| 15:57.01 | CIA-14 | - Fix deDE locale LUA error |
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| 15:57.37 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 15:57.43 | Sinaloit | greetings |
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| 15:58.01 | Sinaloit | Mecdemort: thanks for looking at it |
| 15:58.16 | cncfanatics | please all repeat after me, "Gnome sucks hard = |
| 15:58.43 | Sinaloit | with such a small frame I have a hard time envisioning much ability to create a good vacuum |
| 15:59.07 | asmodai | cncfanatics: Well duh. :) |
| 15:59.17 | Mecdemort | wow that flash animation had some obscure people in it too |
| 15:59.30 | Mecdemort | lopan from big trouble in little china ;p |
| 15:59.39 | asmodai | cncfanatics: I am still stuck on Window Maker (which isn't all that featurefull) and is nice to use |
| 16:00.14 | cncfanatics | asmodai, I'm gonna remove that piece of shit that can't even support my keyboard correctly and get KDE |
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| 16:00.30 | asmodai | kde is decent yea |
| 16:00.30 | cncfanatics | I liked it pretty much, nicely themable & stuff, till I met this stupid keyb bug |
| 16:00.37 | asmodai | Just too heavy weight for me |
| 16:00.47 | cncfanatics | I do like speed |
| 16:00.52 | cncfanatics | what wld u recommend ? |
| 16:01.05 | cncfanatics | I basicly just need something I can change colors of (I hate bright stuff, dark ftw) |
| 16:01.14 | asmodai | Depends on your requirements. Like I said, Window Maker works for me. |
| 16:01.25 | asmodai | Others use Fluxbox or Busybox |
| 16:01.38 | cncfanatics | well, I don't really need fancy stuff |
| 16:01.43 | cncfanatics | but I'm having weird keyb issues atm |
| 16:01.47 | cncfanatics | Alt-gr aint working |
| 16:01.52 | cncfanatics | which is VERY anoying in consoles |
| 16:01.58 | asmodai | wow, WowAceUpdater crashed :) |
| 16:02.17 | cncfanatics | nothing new if ur on linux atm |
| 16:02.20 | cncfanatics | never worked for me |
| 16:02.25 | asmodai | Windows at the moment |
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| 16:03.30 | Sinaloit | uninstall and reinstall from http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm Sylvnaar changed the key |
| 16:03.58 | Sinaloit | the .44 version isn't backwards compatible, he was trying to resolve some issue people w/ german locales were experiencing |
| 16:04.17 | asmodai | oh |
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| 16:12.19 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48083 10Ace3/ (AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua AceModuleCore-3.0/): |
| 16:12.19 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 16:12.19 | CIA-14 | Cleanup of AceAddon-3.0 |
| 16:12.19 | CIA-14 | Removal of AceModuleCore |
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| 16:19.04 | charon | hm, bit of a silly question but i'm afraid i can't find out any other way before raid starts: |
| 16:19.10 | Sinaloit | 42 |
| 16:19.17 | charon | does ClassTimers track other people's Mangle and such? |
| 16:19.20 | charon | if not, what addon would do that |
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| 16:19.46 | charon | (and thanks for all the fish) |
| 16:21.00 | Sinaloit | no idea sorry, recount tracks damage types if all you want to see is if people are doing it |
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| 16:21.00 | charon | er, no that's not the point ;) |
| 16:21.44 | charon | you see Mangle is a 12 second debuff that immensely boosts feral dps and thus has to be on the target at all times except when you're waiting for energy and only doing white damage |
| 16:21.56 | charon | but they don't stack across players so only one debuff is useful |
| 16:23.05 | charon | thus it would help immensely if i could get a chronometer / classtimers like display just for mangle *of all players* |
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| 16:28.49 | ckknight | mitch0, Rock is effecient. I'm not going to make it arbitrarily missing features, though, which is why library handling, addon handling, mixins, table recycling, contracts, and unit tests are in the one core, which everything uses as a building block |
| 16:29.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 16:31.10 | ckknight | so instead of having a whole shitload of libs that _every single addon_ would need to load, I have the one core, which all-in-all doesn't make it less efficient overall, since the features would be used anyway, just "split-up". meshing them together for the core is to make things easier on users and developers |
| 16:31.10 | ckknight | morning, all |
| 16:31.16 | Keias | hi |
| 16:33.00 | NickNock | Yeah i don't think i have a Ace2 core lib not in use by a addon. So having them all in one addon wouldn't load anything unneeded really. |
| 16:33.28 | ckknight | and also, mitch0, because of things like optional contracts, the overall system is both safe because of typechecking and consistency for developers, but fast because users don't need em. Also with unit tests all right there, it makes it all a lot safer, since things are pretty much determined not to break |
| 16:34.14 | Funkeh` | You jsut joined the channel and he hasn't typed in ages |
| 16:34.22 | Funkeh` | Are you ok? |
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| 16:34.38 | Sinaloit | why would local invStr = name:match("(%s+) of the ") return nil when name = "Chestguard of the Fallen Champion" |
| 16:34.52 | ckknight | Funkeh`, he pinged me 5 hours ago |
| 16:34.56 | ckknight | before I logged off |
| 16:35.01 | ckknight | felt it was appropriate to answer |
| 16:35.04 | ckknight | alright, shower time |
| 16:37.32 | Sinaloit | wait its [] for captures isn't it |
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| 16:38.25 | Maldivia | Sinaloit: you sure you don't mean %S |
| 16:38.45 | Maldivia | Sinaloit: %s = white spaces, %S = non white spaces |
| 16:39.00 | Sinaloit | aha |
| 16:39.13 | Sinaloit | and its ()'s for captures like i first thought duh |
| 16:39.51 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 * r48084 10Elephant/Event-Message.lua: Elephant: Fixing "YOU_JOINED" and "YOU_LEAVE" bug. |
| 16:39.57 | Fisker- | I WANT TO PRELOAD ORANGE BOX AAAAAAAAARGH |
| 16:41.37 | Sinaloit | thanks :) |
| 16:43.35 | |Stan| | morning ckknight |
| 16:44.26 | Kuja^ | evening that is |
| 16:44.26 | Kuja^ | but ok :P |
| 16:44.26 | Kuja^ | happen to have grid developers around? |
| 16:45.23 | |Stan| | Kuja^: <3 |
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| 16:49.23 | snurre | hm.. anyone know what account selling sites are popular these days? need to find out if that rogue on sylvanas-eu posted anywhere before selling the account |
| 16:49.40 | Sinaloit | anyway to peel the classes list off of: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29753 w/o using tooltip scanning? |
| 16:50.16 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48085 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 16:50.16 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 16:50.16 | CIA-14 | - setting default state and libraries |
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| 16:50.27 | Fisker- | i doubt it |
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| 16:55.51 | Sinaloit | ok so http://ace.pastey.net/73335 appears to be the final, and it looks like it works fine, any suggestions on optimization or feedback? |
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| 17:16.09 | ckknight | alright, cya all later |
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| 17:39.29 | CIA-14 | 03gamefaq * r48086 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 17:39.29 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:39.29 | CIA-14 | - BB deDE Update |
| 17:43.44 | snurre | anyone here know anyone on sylvanas-eu? |
| 17:44.53 | Fisker- | are you on sylvanas eu? |
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| 17:50.44 | cncfanatics | ok, revoking what I said, gnome aint so bad after all |
| 17:51.21 | Pkekyo | define gnome? |
| 17:51.21 | Pkekyo | the race, or the linux gnome? |
| 17:51.30 | cncfanatics | linux gnom |
| 17:51.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:51.46 | Pkekyo | aye, it's rather good tbh |
| 17:52.10 | cncfanatics | my keyboard was fucked |
| 17:52.13 | cncfanatics | then I tried reparing it |
| 17:52.21 | cncfanatics | and apt-get autoremove removed sudo for some reason |
| 17:52.26 | cncfanatics | so I had no means to get root again |
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| 17:52.43 | cncfanatics | which is rather, anoying, to say the least |
| 17:53.50 | Pkekyo | I can imagine |
| 17:54.46 | cncfanatics | had to reinstall pretty much |
| 17:54.52 | cncfanatics | no means to do shit without a root acc |
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| 17:55.05 | Sinaloit | why not use su instead of sudo? |
| 17:55.06 | vithos | you couldn't just login as root? |
| 17:55.10 | Sinaloit | or just login as root |
| 17:55.18 | cncfanatics | root has no password |
| 17:55.20 | cncfanatics | can't login as it |
| 17:56.15 | vithos | what distro did that to you? |
| 17:56.22 | cncfanatics | I did it to myself |
| 17:56.24 | cncfanatics | don't like root |
| 17:56.27 | cncfanatics | sudo > root :p |
| 17:56.37 | Sinaloit | when you have sudo =) |
| 17:56.46 | Shirik | Vista UAC = sudo for windows :P |
| 17:56.55 | cncfanatics | nah |
| 17:57.06 | cncfanatics | vista UAC asks you if you want to run a program as non-root before running it |
| 17:57.15 | Shirik | uh, no it doesn't |
| 17:57.16 | cncfanatics | and asks you 256 times if you want to run a program as root before running it |
| 17:57.40 | cncfanatics | doesn't vista UAC ask you if you want to run something each time you start a program ? |
| 17:57.50 | Shirik | Vista UAC will never ask you if you want to run it as non-root. If the manifest indicates highestAvailable or requireAdministrator then it will ask you to run as an administator or it won't run at all |
| 17:57.53 | cncfanatics | thats what vista did on a firned's comp at least |
| 17:58.01 | Shirik | it will never work the other way around |
| 17:58.23 | cncfanatics | on my friend's comp before I removed vista, each time I ran a program it would ask me if I was sure |
| 17:58.29 | cncfanatics | is that some other idiot-protection ? |
| 17:58.33 | evl | Where is this Java version of WUA located? |
| 17:58.39 | Shirik | it depends on what you were doing |
| 17:58.42 | Shirik | anyway, back to healing |
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| 17:59.47 | sylvanaar | UAC is not ready for prime-time |
| 18:00.55 | Shirik | programmers don't know how to write their programs to work with UAC, really |
| 18:00.55 | Shirik | I just learned myself. It's pretty straightforward actually |
| 18:00.55 | Shirik | you just need to do it right |
| 18:01.04 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 18:01.05 | cncfanatics | as a programmer |
| 18:01.12 | cncfanatics | I won't ever use vista |
| 18:01.14 | cncfanatics | for ethical reasons |
| 18:01.18 | cncfanatics | let alone program for it |
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| 18:03.00 | Corey | i got vista free from college and threw it in the trash |
| 18:03.18 | Ominous | it really isnt that bad... |
| 18:03.23 | cncfanatics | Ominous |
| 18:03.26 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r48087 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 18:03.26 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:03.26 | CIA-14 | - Boss new add name zhCN Update |
| 18:03.29 | cncfanatics | ~drm |
| 18:03.30 | purl | i heard drm is http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No (tm), or http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 18:03.32 | cncfanatics | the last link |
| 18:05.19 | cncfanatics | http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html read that paper |
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| 18:05.20 | cncfanatics | when ur done try to, honestly, repeat ur phrase |
| 18:05.20 | Ominous | i cant atm |
| 18:05.20 | cncfanatics | read it when u can |
| 18:05.20 | Ominous | need to be top of dps in raid |
| 18:05.20 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 18:05.20 | cncfanatics | I used to have that need too :) |
| 18:05.20 | cncfanatics | rerolled alliance, and rerolled shadowpriest since |
| 18:05.20 | cncfanatics | wonder if spriest can top meter :o |
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| 18:05.21 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r48088 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Core.lua Defaults.lua): Bartender3: moved some code around |
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| 18:06.56 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.08 | cncfanatics | are there any needs to change code for 2.2 in actionbar addons ? |
| 18:07.16 | nevcairiel | some |
| 18:07.21 | nevcairiel | check the diffs from pt |
| 18:07.22 | nevcairiel | ptr |
| 18:07.39 | cncfanatics | hmmm, where can I find those notes |
| 18:07.48 | cncfanatics | UI forum will do? |
| 18:07.53 | Shirik | wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 18:08.24 | buster`- | hello there. i have a strange problem. Omen is showing me revision 450xx, i updated with wau, i deleted the addons/omen-folder and the omen.lua in wtf/account/savedvariables and wtf/account/server/name/savedvariables, and it still shows revision 450XX where the latest is 46 or 470xx :( |
| 18:08.43 | buster`- | are there some other files which should be deleted to clean up? |
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| 18:09.36 | sylvanaar | no |
| 18:09.44 | cncfanatics | format c: might help, buster |
| 18:10.00 | buster`- | thx cncfanatics for your help |
| 18:10.17 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 18:10.18 | mee | cncfanatics: wow, that vista article is bad (just reading bits so far.. ouch) |
| 18:10.34 | cncfanatics | mee is now officialy sherlock :) |
| 18:10.55 | cncfanatics | I agree though mee, won't ever buy any more MS products and run them as less as possible from now on cuz of it |
| 18:11.22 | mee | I wouldn't play WoW if it didn't run under Wine so well :) |
| 18:11.23 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r48089 10FuBar_HerbTrackerFu/ (3 files): |
| 18:11.23 | CIA-14 | FuBar_HerbTrackerFu: |
| 18:11.24 | CIA-14 | - fix when disable the addon, it attempt to call method "UnRegiterEvents". I try block this core.now it's working. |
| 18:11.24 | CIA-14 | add zhCN and zhTW local. thanks feilang999@CWDG |
| 18:11.24 | buster`- | mh.. where does omen get its version? from omen.toc i suppose? |
| 18:11.26 | cncfanatics | as they say at the top of the article, "The Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute the longest suicide note in history" |
| 18:11.59 | cncfanatics | I think mac might actualy quite the vista content protection specs in their advertisment |
| 18:12.18 | mee | haha, that'd be great |
| 18:12.58 | cncfanatics | agree |
| 18:13.31 | cncfanatics | linux can be a hell sometimes, but I rather live with some of its issues then allow microsoft to even think about remotely shutting down my ability to watch HD content |
| 18:14.02 | mee | yep. |
| 18:14.39 | mee | if apple let me get rid of their nasty window manager / desktop environment, I'd be more keen on macs |
| 18:14.53 | evl | uh? |
| 18:15.02 | evl | if you don't like osx, open a console? |
| 18:15.10 | evl | or run blackbox, gnome, kde or whatever |
| 18:15.15 | mee | well, it's not nasty, but not as good as what I have in linux. |
| 18:15.29 | evl | anything VM you can run in linux can be run on a mac |
| 18:16.02 | buster`- | mh.. i just search my entire wow-folder for "45044" and the only files it's in, is the omen-changelog.. how can that be? :( |
| 18:16.06 | evl | Linux fanboys aren't like other fanboys! :) |
| 18:16.16 | mee | hmm, I'll have to check that out.. I haven't figured out how |
| 18:16.25 | mee | just got my mbp a few weeks ago |
| 18:16.27 | cncfanatics | evl, does mac use a linux kernel or what ? |
| 18:16.36 | evl | unix kernel |
| 18:16.37 | cncfanatics | i'm not very keen on macs, never used them |
| 18:16.39 | buster`- | bsd |
| 18:16.46 | cncfanatics | hmmm, so, basicly |
| 18:16.59 | cncfanatics | that means that WoW's mac version *could* run nativly on any linux distro ? |
| 18:17.04 | evl | I can bet my left nut most popular linux vm's have a mac port. |
| 18:17.10 | |Kev| | cncfanatics: it doesn't mean that at all :) |
| 18:17.10 | CIA-14 | 03diablohu * r48090 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua): |
| 18:17.10 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:17.10 | CIA-14 | - zhCN update |
| 18:17.13 | evl | cncfanatics: nope |
| 18:17.18 | evl | cncfanatics: macs have a lot of stuff ontop |
| 18:17.27 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, same kernels should be able to run the same binaries, logicaly |
| 18:17.35 | kergoth | has anyone heard official word on the energy tick brokenness on the ptr? |
| 18:17.36 | |Kev| | and iirc the mac kernel isn't bsd anyway, but the subsystems are |
| 18:17.46 | cncfanatics | kergoth, yea |
| 18:17.50 | evl | the mac kernel is as bsd as you can get it afaik |
| 18:17.54 | evl | but it's been patched ofc |
| 18:18.01 | cncfanatics | they acknowledged it, but didnt say if it was a bug or not |
| 18:18.04 | buster`- | it was a bsd-kernel many years ago, cncfanatics. it's not like you can take the todays freebsd-kernel and run mac osx on top of it |
| 18:18.05 | kergoth | hrm |
| 18:18.06 | evl | darwin is a fork of bsd something |
| 18:18.08 | kergoth | that doesnt help, dangit |
| 18:18.22 | kergoth | i was gonna rewrite my energy ticker, but i dunno if i should bother if blizz is making it pointless :P |
| 18:18.41 | Ominous | how is blizz making it pointless |
| 18:18.50 | cncfanatics | Ominous, energy ticks are partial now |
| 18:18.59 | Ominous | ? |
| 18:18.59 | cncfanatics | let me give you an example |
| 18:19.07 | cncfanatics | you are 0.0000000000000000001 second before the energy tick |
| 18:19.10 | cncfanatics | you attack |
| 18:19.13 | |Kev| | cncfanatics: http://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/Darwin/Conceptual/KernelProgramming/BSD/chapter_11_section_3.html |
| 18:19.27 | cncfanatics | in the current setup, u'd get 20 energy back after 0.00000000000000000001 seconds |
| 18:19.29 | |Kev| | amongst other things, a different binary format |
| 18:19.32 | cncfanatics | from the energy tick |
| 18:19.35 | sylvanaar | what a long rant |
| 18:19.49 | cncfanatics | in the PTR, u'll get only the energy u'd get in 0.000000000000000000001 seconds |
| 18:19.55 | cncfanatics | as ticks are every 2 secs normaly |
| 18:20.03 | cncfanatics | thats 20*0.0000000000000000001, aka nothing |
| 18:20.20 | cncfanatics | s/20*0.0000000000000000001*/20*0.0000000000000000001*2/ |
| 18:20.22 | kergoth | yea, partial based on when you spent the energy, so it wont matter when you initiate the attack on the mob |
| 18:20.23 | kergoth | sucks |
| 18:20.23 | evl | what does this mean for addons like kenergy? |
| 18:20.32 | cncfanatics | that they're useless |
| 18:20.45 | kergoth | it makes them mostly pointless, unless you use them, like i do, with a mutilate build to avoid button mashing all the time (i only m ash when i know the energy i need is about to arrive) |
| 18:20.47 | Ominous | i dont understand |
| 18:20.48 | evl | I base most of my dps on energy ticks. |
| 18:20.56 | evl | when to backstab, when to snd. etc. |
| 18:21.08 | kergoth | Ominous, if you cheap shot 0.5 seconds before the tick, you get 12.5% * 20 energy |
| 18:21.15 | nevcairiel | go back to button smashing, lazy rogues! |
| 18:21.16 | kergoth | er, no, 25% |
| 18:21.26 | sylvanaar | most users never even notice DRM under vista, its alot of hype and misinformation atm |
| 18:21.39 | Ominous | thats odd.... |
| 18:22.03 | kergoth | they're just completely defeating the need to time your initial attack |
| 18:22.05 | kergoth | which is fucking stupid |
| 18:22.09 | kergoth | cause rogues are all about timing |
| 18:22.12 | kergoth | this is no different |
| 18:22.22 | evl | kergoth: but i love kenergy :D |
| 18:22.27 | evl | i'll feel naked without it |
| 18:22.34 | kergoth | me too :( |
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| 18:24.33 | evl | kergoth: but I can still time while I'm in combat right? Like when to backstab to avoid mashing? |
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| 18:24.52 | cncfanatics | back |
| 18:24.54 | kergoth | yeah, thatd still work. you still know when ticks are coming in, its just that the first one isnt the full amount |
| 18:24.57 | cncfanatics | restarted network services for upgrade |
| 18:25.14 | Zapht | Quick question for anyone out there. Is there a way to save hotkeys on a "Per Machine" basis rather than on the server? I would like to use my wife's toon to 2 box, but her hotkeys are NOT 2 box friendly. |
| 18:25.42 | kergoth | actionbars are on the server, what you bind those buttons to is not |
| 18:25.51 | evl | kergoth: okay so basically energy won't tick but rather smoohtly increase? |
| 18:26.18 | kergoth | i think itll still tick the way it does now, only the initial one should change |
| 18:26.23 | kergoth | but i'll hop on the ptr and poke |
| 18:26.28 | evl | nise. |
| 18:30.21 | kergoth | ah, forgot about the change to power regeneration change behavior, will have to change the way i handle AR anyway |
| 18:30.45 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 18:30.45 | cncfanatics | Zapht, if you want actionbars on the client too, get FlexBar2, it saves everything clientside |
| 18:30.45 | cncfanatics | if its just keybindings, rename her WTF folder |
| 18:30.45 | cncfanatics | or just the keybindings part of it |
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| 18:31.06 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 18:31.11 | cncfanatics | apt-get autoremove really needs tweaking |
| 18:33.12 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r48091 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_Comm.lua YssGuildShop.toc): |
| 18:33.12 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 18:33.12 | CIA-14 | - fixed a rare nil error |
| 18:33.17 | ckknight_ | hey all |
| 18:33.19 | ckknight_ | how's everyone doing? |
| 18:33.54 | Cyrez | ckknight_: Pretty good... Got back from my vacation yesterday. ^^ |
| 18:33.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 18:34.04 | ckknight | awesome |
| 18:34.22 | Cyrez | Left this guy on and came here as Cyre2. |
| 18:34.45 | Cyrez | My sister's boyfriend gave me his old rig. |
| 18:34.58 | cncfanatics | hello ckknight_, I just reinstalled my system and it works, so good :) |
| 18:35.09 | Cyrez | 02(CPU102) AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3000+ @ 2003MHz (ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8VSEDX mainboard) 02(RAM02) 2GB, 1.3GB free 02(HDDs02) 85.8GB, 60.9GB free |
| 18:35.09 | Cyrez | 02(VGA102) NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 (128MB), 1280x960x32, 75Hz 02(OS02) Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional x64 Edition (SP2), 12h 44m 7s uptime, 12h 44m 7s uptime record |
| 18:35.36 | Shirik | os: Windows Vista Ultimate :: cpu: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ (at 2210 MHz) :: mem: 1203/2047 MB (58%) :: gfx: nVidia GeForce 7800 GT (1360x768x32bit 60Hz) |
| 18:35.50 | Cyrez | Spiffy, but this computer was free, lol. |
| 18:35.55 | ckknight | cncfanatics, great! |
| 18:36.23 | Cyrez | cncfanatics: How's your baby? ^^ |
| 18:36.34 | cncfanatics | LVM rocks :) |
| 18:36.37 | ckknight | cncfanatics had a kid? |
| 18:36.48 | Cyrez | I was talking about FlexBar2, lol. |
| 18:36.58 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, why not try it out ? |
| 18:37.45 | cncfanatics | ckknight, i'm 18 ;)Ã |
| 18:37.45 | Cyrez | Can't yet. Still installing WoW. >< |
| 18:37.45 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, did you ever use FB1 ? |
| 18:37.45 | Shirik | Cyrez: Lucky :( |
| 18:37.45 | cncfanatics | omg Cyrez, you're birthday is one day after mine |
| 18:37.54 | ckknight | cncfanatics, you could still have a kid |
| 18:37.54 | Cyrez | Spifferoni! |
| 18:38.03 | cncfanatics | ckknight, bit young don't you thinkl ? :p |
| 18:38.12 | ckknight | it's been done in the past |
| 18:38.29 | Cyrez | Er, nope, didn't noe about FB1 until I found FB2. |
| 18:39.08 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, you shouldn't be very used to the slashcomm's then |
| 18:39.08 | cncfanatics | I recommand the gui with /fb gui |
| 18:39.08 | cncfanatics | its nifty |
| 18:39.09 | cncfanatics | and btw, u can create more then one button at once |
| 18:39.15 | cncfanatics | 1;2;3;4;5 will create 5 buttons |
| 18:39.20 | Cyrez | I noe. ;) |
| 18:39.21 | cncfanatics | 1-5 will have the same effect |
| 18:39.26 | cncfanatics | FIsker- didnt, rather say so now :p |
| 18:39.33 | cncfanatics | but well, meh, Fisker- |
| 18:39.45 | CIA-14 | 03archarodim * r48092 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 18:39.45 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2 - Babble-Boss-2.2.lua |
| 18:39.45 | CIA-14 | - Added "Anzu" 'translation'. |
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| 18:40.11 | cncfanatics | now, my kernel just upgraded |
| 18:40.12 | cncfanatics | need to reboot |
| 18:41.09 | Cyrez | [X] Enable auto-ghosting when nickname is in use |
| 18:41.12 | Cyrez | Hawt. |
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| 18:41.54 | cncfanatics | back |
| 18:42.01 | Cyrez | It's ALIVE!!!!12 |
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| 18:42.25 | Ominous | Cyrez: what irc client |
| 18:43.01 | Cyrez | Ominous: mIRC 6.21 with NoNameScript 4.1 |
| 18:43.47 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I like pidgin :) |
| 18:44.28 | Cyrez | That's what I was using at my sister's. |
| 18:44.31 | cncfanatics | and as I themed gnome, it looks nice & dark now |
| 18:44.43 | cncfanatics | heck, my whole comp looks nice & dark |
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| 18:48.23 | Silviu- | Cyrez & Shirik what script u use for post ? ;) my darkengine won`t recongnize my new mainboard and proc ;) |
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| 18:49.14 | Cyrez | Silviu-: NoNameScript has it built in. |
| 18:49.31 | Shirik | nbs-irc |
| 18:49.44 | Silviu- | Thx i`ll look |
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| 18:56.57 | cncfanatics | hmmm, whats the difference between opengl overlay & video overlay ? |
| 18:58.06 | CIA-14 | 03 * r 10/: |
| 18:58.18 | cncfanatics | need to restart x, brb |
| 18:58.52 | CIA-14 | 03 * r 10/: |
| 18:58.52 | Ominous | whats cia on about... :P |
| 18:58.58 | CIA-14 | 03 * r 10/: |
| 18:59.30 | haste | awesome |
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| 18:59.30 | haste | I've looked forward to that fix |
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| 18:59.30 | ckknight | CIA is teh borked |
| 18:59.30 | CIA-14 | 03archarodim * r48092 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 18:59.30 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2 - Babble-Boss-2.2.lua |
| 18:59.30 | CIA-14 | - Added "Anzu" 'translation'. |
| 18:59.34 | haste | no it's not |
| 19:00.25 | CIA-14 | 03archarodim * r48092 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 19:00.25 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2 - Babble-Boss-2.2.lua |
| 19:00.25 | CIA-14 | - Added "Anzu" 'translation'. |
| 19:00.37 | Kuja^ | it is, actually :P |
| 19:02.07 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48085 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 19:02.07 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 19:02.07 | CIA-14 | - setting default state and libraries |
| 19:02.07 | haste | working as intended |
| 19:02.07 | Silviu- | 3OS: Windows Longhorn XP Professional 6.0 (Build #6000) 3CPU: Intel Pentium III, 2.67 GHz 3Video: Dell D1025HE on nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS (1280x1024x32bpp 85Hz) 3Sound: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) 3Memory: Used: 1292/2046MB 3Uptime: 2h 6m 54s 3HD: Free: [C:] 34.37/48.83 GB [D:Games] 109.86/124.02 GB [E:Media] 44.87/125.23 GB 3Connection: Realtek RTL8168/8111 Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) @ 100.0 Mbps |
| 19:02.07 | ckknight | that's old |
| 19:02.07 | Sinaloit | what does the * r /: commit mean then? |
| 19:02.07 | Silviu- | fc :/ |
| 19:02.07 | ckknight | btw, <3 Jira |
| 19:02.07 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather koffin |
| 19:02.08 | ckknight | so handy to just have everyone's requests easily searchable and the like |
| 19:02.08 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Koffin, Level 70 Blood Elf Mage (0/0/61). 7863 HP; 7901 Mana; 121 mana regen; 132 spell crit; 31 spell hit; 888 +spell dmg/heal; 230 frost dmg (1118); 179 shadow dmg (1067); 5.1% dodge; 21 resilience;[[ TBR: 855 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2aoaez ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vvjz9 ][ Updated: Mon Sep 3 15:13:07 2007 ]] |
| 19:02.08 | Sinaloit | any could someone take a peek at http://ace.pastey.net/73335 and tell me if they can think of any possible problems/optimizations? |
| 19:02.14 | Cyrez | I've muted the one in my channel until it's working right. |
| 19:02.37 | Pkekyo | !vs eu bloodfeather koffin eu bloodfeather coffincast |
| 19:02.38 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Koffin vs Coffincast! Two 70 mages square off!; 0/0/61 vs 2/0/59; Coffincast wins by 309 TBRs! |
| 19:02.45 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48085 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 19:02.45 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 19:02.45 | CIA-14 | - setting default state and libraries |
| 19:02.50 | Pkekyo | same guy, two imba mages /sigh |
| 19:02.59 | Gngsk | haste, will you ever release a version of oApplication that will apply items such as comfortable insoles or rune of warding to the correct item? |
| 19:03.10 | haste | Gngsk: does it do that? |
| 19:03.17 | Sinaloit | What are comfortable insoles good for? |
| 19:03.25 | haste | doesn't it* |
| 19:03.26 | Sinaloit | other than skilling up |
| 19:03.33 | haste | god.. my typing sucks atm :( |
| 19:03.34 | Gngsk | haste, it highlites items but doesn't apply them correctly |
| 19:03.39 | Gngsk | Sinaloit, decreases durability loss |
| 19:03.47 | *** join/#wowace Ekildox (n=xodlike@c-24-1-201-0.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 19:03.59 | haste | Gngsk: I'll see if I can fetch some of it, and give it a whirl |
| 19:04.02 | Gngsk | I must admit I only tested with insoles though |
| 19:04.21 | Gngsk | it's pretty easy to do, I added it localy |
| 19:05.23 | Gngsk | all you have to do is add an extra macro that points to the itemslot and an if on the id when you're setting the attribute |
| 19:05.23 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48085 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 19:05.23 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 19:05.23 | CIA-14 | - setting default state and libraries |
| 19:05.23 | haste | Gngsk: post a diff :p |
| 19:05.23 | Gngsk | not sure if I did it the best way though, which is why I figured I'd ask |
| 19:05.23 | haste | or just the whole file, as it isn't much code |
| 19:05.24 | Gngsk | k |
| 19:05.25 | haste | I didn't know it didn't work :( |
| 19:05.32 | ckknight | wow, Kaelten, you really care about those default states, you've made like 4 commits now! |
| 19:05.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:05.51 | Gngsk | well, the item is meant to be applied to the shoes and the macro is setup to apply to either MH or OH depending on click |
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| 19:06.11 | Sinaloit | the revision number is the same so i'd guess its CIA choking still |
| 19:06.43 | ckknight | I know |
| 19:06.46 | ckknight | this the :-P |
| 19:06.51 | ckknight | thus* |
| 19:07.01 | Cyrez | I'll voice the one in my channel again when it stops misbehaving. |
| 19:07.07 | Sinaloit | ah, figured the :-P was just directed at Kaelten! |
| 19:07.35 | Gngsk | http://pastey.net/73343 - interesting lines include: 3, 22, 28 |
| 19:07.47 | Gngsk | wait, 5 not 3 |
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| 19:09.16 | Sinaloit | and 29 not 28 |
| 19:10.16 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 19:10.19 | cncfanatics | how usefull |
| 19:10.23 | cncfanatics | CIA is not voiced on wowace-cia |
| 19:10.50 | CIA-14 | 03siz * r48093 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/ (AddonSpamFu.lua FuBar_AddonSpamFu.toc): |
| 19:10.50 | CIA-14 | FuBar_AddonSpamFu: |
| 19:10.50 | CIA-14 | - Fixed a bug in prefix sorting on line 453 |
| 19:11.25 | art3mis | anyone played with SkyOS? |
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| 19:11.25 | Ominous | for the love of god |
| 19:11.26 | Cyrez | cncfanatics: That was intentional. CIA was misbehaving a few minutes ago. |
| 19:11.33 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, ah |
| 19:11.36 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48085 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 19:11.36 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 19:11.36 | CIA-14 | - setting default state and libraries |
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| 19:11.52 | Ominous | lol and still is |
| 19:12.18 | cncfanatics | what did it just do wrong ? |
| 19:12.20 | ckknight | Kaelten is just really enthused about those default states. |
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| 19:12.45 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48085 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 19:12.45 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 19:12.45 | CIA-14 | - setting default state and libraries |
| 19:12.46 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 19:12.50 | Megalon | :D |
| 19:12.53 | cncfanatics | ok I get it |
| 19:12.54 | Pkekyo | how can I 'print' a pitbull layout? |
| 19:13.06 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo /dump Pitbull.db |
| 19:13.11 | cncfanatics | would dump ur entire config |
| 19:13.14 | nevcairiel | CIA-14 is not misbehaving |
| 19:13.18 | cncfanatics | not necessarly what u want though |
| 19:13.19 | nevcairiel | Mikk is debugging it |
| 19:13.29 | nevcairiel | and seding false messages out :P |
| 19:13.32 | *** join/#wowace Tornhoof (i=haldir@tserv03.mops.net) |
| 19:13.42 | cncfanatics | then kickban it till he's done ? |
| 19:13.43 | ckknight | Pkekyo, save a layout, export it, it'll allow you to copy it |
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| 19:14.40 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48085 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 19:14.41 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 19:14.41 | CIA-14 | - setting default state and libraries |
| 19:15.04 | cncfanatics | ckknight, please kickban cia till he's done |
| 19:15.30 | ckknight | but when will that be? |
| 19:15.30 | cncfanatics | when he says he is ? |
| 19:15.54 | nevcairiel | Mikk should be done debugging him |
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| 19:18.26 | CIA-14 | 03sinaloit * r48094 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/ (. Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc embeds.xml): |
| 19:18.26 | CIA-14 | Cartographer_QuestObjectives: |
| 19:18.26 | CIA-14 | - Updated tsvn:logtemplate |
| 19:18.26 | CIA-14 | - moved to embeds.xml |
| 19:18.26 | CIA-14 | - Updated TOC version |
| 19:19.28 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, WoW is installing too now for me :) |
| 19:19.37 | cncfanatics | glad I always keep patches & stuff localy |
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| 19:21.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+o nymbia] by ChanServ |
| 19:22.48 | Chompers | we've just giving al'ar a try, does anyone have any advice? |
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| 19:23.08 | cncfanatics | do not use FR gear |
| 19:23.10 | cncfanatics | gimps you too much |
| 19:23.11 | CIA-14 | 03sinaloit * r48095 10NRT_EPGP/ (. NRT_EPGP.lua NRT_EPGP.toc embeds.xml): |
| 19:23.11 | CIA-14 | NRT_EPGP: |
| 19:23.11 | CIA-14 | - Initial Commit |
| 19:23.11 | CIA-14 | - NRT formatter for EPGP/CTRT |
| 19:23.11 | CIA-14 | - Looks up GP, includes in XML export |
| 19:23.12 | CIA-14 | - Reports Mains as attending parties |
| 19:23.14 | CIA-14 | - Converts Tokens to Set item for GP lookup |
| 19:23.18 | cncfanatics | regular gear will do Chompers |
| 19:23.29 | Chompers | that's good, we dont have FR gear :p |
| 19:23.46 | Chompers | we've got warlocks going all out for phase 2 |
| 19:24.25 | [Ammo] | use normal gear |
| 19:24.28 | [Ammo] | get 2 bears on the adds |
| 19:24.32 | [Ammo] | offtank em and nuke em |
| 19:24.40 | Chompers | is there any order to when he nukes the upper platform? |
| 19:24.43 | [Ammo] | 3% off the boss per add killed while he's still in the floor |
| 19:24.50 | [Ammo] | yes 1 2 3 4 from left to right |
| 19:24.53 | [Ammo] | but he can skip 1 |
| 19:24.57 | [Ammo] | when he comes back from quill |
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| 19:25.12 | nevcairiel | from quill he can go 1 or 4 |
| 19:25.18 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 19:25.44 | [Ammo] | yeah but he can also skip one |
| 19:25.51 | [Ammo] | and go to 2 |
| 19:26.00 | [Ammo] | bug a bit |
| 19:26.08 | nevcairiel | we had him bug on 1 quite often |
| 19:26.15 | nevcairiel | spawning new adds and not moving away from 1 |
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| 19:27.04 | charon_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.08 | Pkekyo | when you export a pitbull layout...any way to export frame size as well? |
| 19:27.15 | nevcairiel | charon_: owned |
| 19:27.27 | charon_ | grml. |
| 19:27.31 | charon_ | guess so. |
| 19:27.45 | evl | :D |
| 19:27.51 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 19:27.54 | ckknight | Pkekyo, sorry, no |
| 19:27.58 | nevcairiel | i could be mean now |
| 19:28.05 | Pkekyo | damnit :< |
| 19:28.42 | Sinaloit | silly question, is AceOO required by AceAddon or AceLibrary? |
| 19:28.47 | ckknight | AceAddon |
| 19:28.53 | Sinaloit | k |
| 19:29.22 | charon | phew |
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| 19:29.32 | charon | thanks all for not being an asshole and killing me with that knowledge. |
| 19:29.46 | cncfanatics | ckknight, ported anything to Rock yet, I'd love to start porting FB :) kinda waiting for it now, won't dev new features with a porting so close |
| 19:29.59 | ckknight | cncfanatics, CowTip, and I've gotten all the libraries ready for Parrot |
| 19:30.10 | ckknight | but I need to get WoW running (get my comp back) before I port that |
| 19:30.18 | ckknight | I have a list of all the libraries I need to get everything running |
| 19:30.31 | cncfanatics | could you warn me when Rock should be rdy for FB ? |
| 19:30.33 | ckknight | not all that much, all in all |
| 19:30.36 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 19:30.43 | ckknight | my guess is 1-2 weeks |
| 19:30.44 | cncfanatics | I just need PaintChips & SpecialEvents pretty much |
| 19:31.10 | nevcairiel | you know you can access Ace libs from Rock addons |
| 19:31.11 | ckknight | part of me wants to just merge PaintChips with Crayon |
| 19:31.14 | Ominous | as there is noce LibRockOO isnt it gonna be a massive port |
| 19:31.22 | Ominous | cncfanatics: ^^? |
| 19:31.37 | ckknight | still thinking about making LibRockOO, dunno, though |
| 19:32.02 | cncfanatics | Ominous, can make my own OO, I only need basic mixin features |
| 19:32.28 | cncfanatics | ckknight, I could code a basic OO lib probably, but i'm not an as good coder as you are |
| 19:32.32 | kergoth | ckknight, tried the ptr? seems like something changed with tooltips (havent read the ui notes about hte patch yet). gets all weirdly blinky (cowtip) |
| 19:32.47 | ckknight | cncfanatics, Rock("SomeLib"):Embed(someTable) |
| 19:32.48 | ckknight | for mixins |
| 19:32.56 | ckknight | or you can do it manually: |
| 19:33.20 | ckknight | local myMixin = { Pants = function() end }; local myTable = {}; for k,v in pairs(myMixin) do myTable[k] = v end; myTable:Pants() |
| 19:33.26 | nevcairiel | ckknight: i looked at abacus-3.0, whats the point in having it rock and not independent? |
| 19:33.37 | ckknight | nevcairiel, I can use contracts and the like |
| 19:33.38 | cncfanatics | I just need to be able to create a "Button" and a "Group" class which will inherit from all button & group functions my modules declared, pretty basic |
| 19:33.54 | ckknight | nevcairiel, faster than doing argchecking manually |
| 19:33.56 | CIA-14 | 03sinaloit * r48096 10NRT_EPGP/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 19:33.56 | CIA-14 | NRT_EPGP: |
| 19:33.56 | CIA-14 | - Added svn:externals |
| 19:33.56 | CIA-14 | - updated embeds.xml |
| 19:33.57 | nevcairiel | ckknight: thats about all you use, a fairly small point imho :P |
| 19:34.06 | ckknight | still important |
| 19:34.09 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather koffin |
| 19:34.11 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Koffin, Level 70 Blood Elf Mage (0/0/61). 7863 HP; 7901 Mana; 121 mana regen; 132 spell crit; 31 spell hit; 888 +spell dmg/heal; 230 frost dmg (1118); 179 shadow dmg (1067); 5.1% dodge; 21 resilience;[[ TBR: 855 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2aoaez ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vvjz9 ][ Updated: Mon Sep 3 15:13:07 2007 ]] |
| 19:34.20 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: fork it if ya need it |
| 19:34.38 | cncfanatics | !c eu emerald dream evolve |
| 19:34.39 | nevcairiel | i will if it comes to it, just saying that i dont want to :P |
| 19:34.41 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Evolve, Level 25 Dwarf Priest (0/0/16). 842 HP; 1297 Mana; 86 mana regen; 4.98% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 91 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25mmgb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38yqmz ][ Updated: Mon Sep 3 15:45:52 2007 ]] |
| 19:34.44 | cncfanatics | thats my new char ^^ |
| 19:34.51 | ckknight | if you fork it to framework-agnostic, I wouldn't have a problem using it, really |
| 19:35.30 | nevcairiel | dunno, you made all the other libs framework-agnostic, just wondering why not that one, seeing that it doesnt use any API calls, only the argcheck thingy |
| 19:35.46 | ckknight | not all the other libs |
| 19:35.52 | nevcairiel | all where possible |
| 19:36.05 | ckknight | I did DogTag because cladhaire requested that a long time ago, felt I should honor his wishes |
| 19:36.37 | ckknight | I did Babble because it'd be a bitch for everyone to have multiple instances of it, needlessly |
| 19:36.49 | cncfanatics | why not all ? |
| 19:37.01 | ckknight | cncfanatics, because I use features in Rock pretty extensively |
| 19:37.31 | ckknight | btw, people, check the API of http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibBabble-Zone-3.0 |
| 19:37.38 | ckknight | see if there's anything that should be changed/added/removed |
| 19:37.44 | ckknight | now's the time before it's frozen |
| 19:38.03 | nevcairiel | mm same for tourist, depends on rock, but doesnt use anything besides the stubing :P |
| 19:38.17 | ckknight | I'm going to be adding unit tests and the like for things like Tourist pretty soon |
| 19:38.48 | ckknight | and Abacus |
| 19:39.07 | ckknight | I just haven't yet because I can't run em because I have no WoW on this comp |
| 19:39.38 | ckknight | I don't believe that I should do everything from scratch and have my own argCheck function and recycling functions in every single lib |
| 19:39.50 | ckknight | especially when it's available to me pretty easily |
| 19:40.35 | [Ammo] | going that route will get lots of forks going |
| 19:41.31 | [Ammo] | if you're making them Rock libs, put the Rock in the lib |
| 19:41.34 | [Ammo] | LibRockAbacus |
| 19:41.41 | [Ammo] | so people dont get fooled |
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| 19:42.33 | kergoth | could make a independent LibAbacus and have LibRockAbacus just use the independent one and add contracts |
| 19:42.43 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 19:42.44 | [Ammo] | for instance |
| 19:42.49 | cncfanatics | doing LOTS of things at the same time is bad |
| 19:42.51 | cncfanatics | just crashed |
| 19:42.58 | ckknight | *shrug* if you feel like forking, I'm not going to stop you |
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| 19:43.57 | cncfanatics | ckknight, not like you could stop him forking it even if you wanted to in the first place :p |
| 19:43.59 | ckknight | but I don't see the point for what I'm doing to need to either rename or rewrite myself |
| 19:44.16 | [Ammo] | because we can ake them perfectly independant |
| 19:45.10 | cncfanatics | I'd go for independant as much as possible personaly tbh, agree with [Ammo] |
| 19:45.14 | ckknight | yea, and since I use features of Rock that are worthwhile in my mind, in such a light that I don't have to redo them manually (in which case it'd be less efficient), I'm going to take that route |
| 19:45.34 | Chompers | al'ar to 1% |
| 19:45.35 | Chompers | :< |
| 19:45.41 | ckknight | ouchies |
| 19:45.42 | cncfanatics | Chompers, first time ? |
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| 19:45.48 | Chompers | yeah, first try |
| 19:45.58 | Chompers | tank died |
| 19:46.00 | cncfanatics | heh, my guild would struggle to get him to 99% first time (my old guild that is) |
| 19:46.50 | Chompers | we need to kill this guy tonight to keep the boss evey 3 day thing going |
| 19:46.50 | cncfanatics | nice guild u got |
| 19:46.50 | cncfanatics | server ? |
| 19:46.50 | Chompers | so everyones going all out :p |
| 19:46.54 | Chompers | nah, we're average |
| 19:47.02 | Chompers | but lots of really good players |
| 19:47.16 | cncfanatics | I used to be in a sucky guild with lots of bad players |
| 19:47.22 | cncfanatics | giev average guild with good players |
| 19:47.28 | cncfanatics | don't need hard core really, or I can't code :p |
| 19:47.33 | ckknight | it's like if you need to do xml parsing, why not rely on an xml library instead of rolling your own which might be flawed (and would most certainly take longer)? |
| 19:47.38 | Chompers | lots of those about |
| 19:47.53 | cncfanatics | Chompers, not on my old server :) which is why i'm rerolling on a new one |
| 19:48.00 | Chompers | oh |
| 19:48.18 | cncfanatics | emerald dream has 40 alliance guilds doing kara (doesnt mean they do a lot but still) |
| 19:48.25 | Chompers | heh |
| 19:48.31 | Sinaloit | pfah alliance |
| 19:49.14 | Chompers | oh, this is al'ar first phase |
| 19:49.15 | cncfanatics | khadgar horde, my old server & side has 22 :/ |
| 19:49.15 | Chompers | so nothing special |
| 19:49.16 | cncfanatics | oh Chompers lol |
| 19:49.20 | cncfanatics | thought it was final phase |
| 19:49.26 | [Ammo] | I don't see how a lib can become more efficient by relying on a huge framework |
| 19:49.27 | Chompers | if it was phase 2 i'd be so pisse |
| 19:49.29 | Chompers | d |
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| 19:50.00 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowjutsu.com/eu/khadgar/index_horde.html vs http://www.wowjutsu.com/eu/emeralddream/index_alliance.html |
| 19:50.04 | cncfanatics | I'd know what one to choose tbh |
| 19:50.07 | cncfanatics | khadgar horde is dead |
| 19:50.11 | ckknight | [Ammo], well, if you already have the framework, it's no issue. But basically, the way that contracts and argchecking works, it only occurs if you enable it (if you're a developer, that is), it isn't enabled for users, so the code is never run for them, which makes it quite a bit more efficient |
| 19:50.21 | Sinaloit | well I play on doomhammer, decent horde presence |
| 19:50.32 | ckknight | I'm sure you know the current Ace2 landscape, where AceLibrary.argCheck is run 100x every frame |
| 19:51.34 | [Ammo] | I know |
| 19:51.34 | ckknight | the conditional contract system solves that debauchle |
| 19:51.34 | [Ammo] | but Ace2 has bloated beyond control |
| 19:51.34 | [Ammo] | with features that only certain addons use |
| 19:51.34 | Chompers | http://www.wowjutsu.com/eu/kultiras/ |
| 19:51.34 | ckknight | as well as having unit tests, which makes libraries a lot more stable in the grand scheme of things |
| 19:51.34 | cncfanatics | Ace2 standalone takes 25% of total addon cpu usage |
| 19:51.35 | Chompers | lots of damn fine guilds there |
| 19:51.35 | cncfanatics | and about 30% of the memory |
| 19:51.35 | ckknight | cncfanatics, pretty gnarly |
| 19:52.32 | cncfanatics | Chompers, emerald dream has more :p |
| 19:52.33 | charon | is there a way to have Recount show threat for something other than global or Vashj? |
| 19:52.33 | charon | (i'd like to look at strider threat) |
| 19:52.34 | [Ammo] | adding a huge framework for a few coin and other formatting functions is overkill when it can be pretty much independant this time around (not talking about the current ace2 version) |
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| 19:53.08 | ckknight | [Ammo], and I don't see the issue seeing as I'm going to be running Rock anyway on the addons that use it |
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| 19:53.52 | [Ammo] | it locks down libs from other users and will lead to forking - |
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| 19:54.37 | Kaelten | making it so no one else can use the libs without a good cause is bad mojo |
| 19:54.51 | cncfanatics | well, they could rewrite said functions |
| 19:55.01 | [Ammo] | like I said, will lead to forking |
| 19:55.14 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 19:55.17 | cncfanatics | couldnt it be set so that |
| 19:55.19 | cncfanatics | if Rock is loaded |
| 19:55.23 | cncfanatics | it uses rock's stuff |
| 19:55.29 | cncfanatics | if it aint use some standalone magic ? |
| 19:55.39 | ckknight | that works in some cases (probably Abacus, really), but not in others |
| 19:55.47 | ckknight | such as if a library uses the recycling capabilities |
| 19:55.51 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: overcomplicates things |
| 19:55.56 | kergoth | huh, did blizzard remove that tick behavior from the ptr? |
| 19:56.01 | kergoth | i cant seem to make it happen |
| 19:56.06 | ckknight | tick? |
| 19:56.09 | kergoth | kenergy is never surprised by a tick that isnt 20 energy |
| 19:56.14 | kergoth | its always 19-21 |
| 19:56.28 | [Ammo] | the recycling capabalities are only useful for small tables that don't change in size. Anything larger and changing will be slower |
| 19:56.33 | [Ammo] | there's an article about it on wowwiki |
| 19:56.39 | [Ammo] | with proper research |
| 19:56.57 | cncfanatics | [Ammo], just making a new table is better for large stuff ? (and large == ??) |
| 19:57.07 | kergoth | ckknight, for a while blizz had it so if you attacked the mob right before a tick came in, the energy tick would only give you a percentage of the normal energy income, based on the time to the tick, nullifying the opener timing most rogues do. but i can't seem to see that on the ptr, so maybe they undid it |
| 19:57.08 | kergoth | hmk |
| 19:57.09 | [Ammo] | let me see if I can find the article |
| 19:57.42 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:58.06 | ckknight | it's not just about speed, [Ammo], it's about memory use |
| 19:58.16 | cncfanatics | its more about increasing memory use |
| 19:58.20 | ckknight | right |
| 19:58.23 | ckknight | and memory leaks |
| 19:58.38 | nevcairiel | its about that letting the GC eat the table is faster then eating it yourself |
| 19:58.39 | cncfanatics | indeed, recreating tables every X is bad, better recycle one even if its a bit slower imo |
| 19:58.41 | [Ammo] | I said nothing about that |
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| 19:58.52 | [Ammo] | you can use the same table ofcourse |
| 19:59.10 | [Ammo] | but using a generic recycler for any table is slow |
| 19:59.14 | [Ammo] | using a specific recycle for tables of known size = good |
| 19:59.26 | cncfanatics | [Ammo], and for tables of unknown size ? |
| 19:59.31 | ckknight | while that may be true, people notice increasing memory usage, think leaks and think the framework itself is bad |
| 19:59.44 | nevcairiel | screw people |
| 19:59.47 | [Ammo] | no the addon will be called bad |
| 19:59.52 | sylvanaar | this new auctioneer is a work of art - i like it |
| 19:59.59 | nevcairiel | you write your code so it looks better to the user, but actually is worse? |
| 20:00.00 | Kaelten | so your doing a bad thing to make it seem like its better? |
| 20:00.01 | nevcairiel | gfg |
| 20:00.20 | cncfanatics | first thing, users shouldn't try to profile their addons |
| 20:00.25 | cncfanatics | they know nothing about how it works |
| 20:00.34 | cncfanatics | if they want to think they're smart, let them tbh |
| 20:00.35 | krka | yeah |
| 20:01.00 | nevcairiel | eating cpu cycles is worse then eating a tiny bit of memory |
| 20:01.07 | krka | 1) it's not a memory leak 2) it's not wrong for code in a GC-language to actually create some garbage |
| 20:01.29 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, rather use cpu cycles then leak though N |
| 20:01.46 | cncfanatics | example, item & spell caches, when regenerating the cache if I created a new table each time i'd be bad on memory side |
| 20:01.51 | nevcairiel | there is a garbage collector in lua |
| 20:02.00 | [Ammo] | article in question: http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_object_memory_sizes |
| 20:02.03 | nevcairiel | which works faster then your generic table recycling |
| 20:02.19 | cncfanatics | hmmm, so you are saying rather let memory leak then recycle tables ? |
| 20:02.25 | nevcairiel | depends |
| 20:02.29 | [Ammo] | it depends |
| 20:02.36 | [Ammo] | it's better to use a custom solution on a per table bass |
| 20:02.39 | sylvanaar | at the end of the day it doesnt matter, and you can never win this arguement |
| 20:02.39 | cncfanatics | Inifibars for example has a very bad memory leak that slows the UI noticable |
| 20:02.41 | [Ammo] | but read the article |
| 20:03.22 | [Ammo] | we're not saying recycling is bad, but it's not good for everything |
| 20:03.57 | kergoth | cncfanatics, verified, timing the opener works flawlessly on the ptr still, hitting immediately before the tick still results in a near immediate 20 energy gain |
| 20:03.59 | ckknight | imho, WoW's GC isn't tuned the best for WoW-related usage. Now I know that cladhaire has been pressuring to fix this, but until that time, I just don't think that relying on the GC is the best situation in all cases |
| 20:04.02 | kergoth | cncfanatics, guess they fixed it |
| 20:04.04 | Chompers | 70% on phase 2 |
| 20:04.15 | Chompers | man, if only people didn't have to leave early tonight |
| 20:04.19 | ckknight | go for the gold, Chompers |
| 20:04.25 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 20:04.32 | cncfanatics | so, in my case, lets see, lemme grab my code |
| 20:04.57 | nevcairiel | if you read that article on wowwiki, it will show you that the GC has been optimized already, so that in many cases its just faster to let it handle the recycling |
| 20:04.57 | krka | leak large tables. possibly recycle your own small tables. |
| 20:05.15 | CIA-14 | 03ag 07andreasg * r48097 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (7 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: added font type/size overrides, fancy raid header graphics |
| 20:06.14 | ckknight | nevcairiel, so cladhaire was lying to me, then? |
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| 20:06.14 | cncfanatics | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/FlexBar2/ItemCache/ItemCache.lua?r=47889 this cache runs pretty often, faster to not recycle the old table at start ? |
| 20:06.16 | ckknight | because frankly, I believe him in that case |
| 20:06.45 | nevcairiel | not lying |
| 20:07.21 | nevcairiel | but maybe you misinterpreted some stuff |
| 20:07.21 | nevcairiel | i do believe in reasearched figures |
| 20:07.21 | cncfanatics | could this possible be benchmarked ? |
| 20:10.52 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_object_memory_sizes |
| 20:10.52 | nevcairiel | read! :p |
| 20:10.52 | ckknight | hrm, you seem to not benchmark cpu usage, only memory usage |
| 20:10.52 | ckknight | unless I'm missing that part |
| 20:10.52 | krka | wtf? |
| 20:10.52 | krka | To motivate programmers, here follows a number of statements. Only one is correct. If you choose the right one, you will be shown boobies. |
| 20:10.52 | Sinaloit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Lua_object_memory_sizes |
| 20:10.52 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:10.52 | nevcairiel | yeah read the talk page |
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| 20:13.25 | cncfanatics | hmmm intresting |
| 20:13.58 | cncfanatics | pretty much boils to general table recycling = bad |
| 20:13.58 | krka | yup |
| 20:13.58 | krka | i could have told you that about the same time as tbc came :P |
| 20:14.06 | krka | no one listened :/ |
| 20:14.16 | cncfanatics | well, I don't recycle tables atm except the cache ones, which are pretty static anyway |
| 20:15.12 | cncfanatics | while I think about it |
| 20:15.14 | cncfanatics | this code |
| 20:15.14 | cncfanatics | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/FlexBar2/SpellCache/SpellCache.lua?r=47847 |
| 20:15.19 | cncfanatics | blocks the UI slightly |
| 20:15.22 | cncfanatics | when rebuilding the cache |
| 20:15.25 | cncfanatics | any way to make it go faster ? |
| 20:16.28 | krka | one trick is to make it run on demand |
| 20:16.33 | krka | aka lazy loading |
| 20:16.48 | cncfanatics | that code ? its always needed |
| 20:16.56 | cncfanatics | I need a spell cache to build my tooltips |
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| 20:17.41 | krka | hm |
| 20:17.58 | ckknight | relatively small table means <= 128 keys (or so) which in most cases is what is used when recycling (from what I've done, at least) |
| 20:17.58 | krka | you could localize some of the functions |
| 20:18.10 | ckknight | which basically, from the conclusions on the talk page, means that I should keep recycling... |
| 20:18.20 | ckknight | unless I'm missing something |
| 20:18.25 | cncfanatics | krka, how so ? |
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| 20:18.36 | krka | local GetNumSpellTabs = GetNumSpellTabs at the top |
| 20:18.45 | cncfanatics | aah yea |
| 20:18.53 | cncfanatics | I do doubt that'll prevent the hookup though |
| 20:19.03 | cncfanatics | its slightly less then a second, but noticable when learning lots of spells at the trainer |
| 20:19.20 | krka | you can skip the ", _" in the cache clearing loop |
| 20:19.53 | cncfanatics | true, should spare a tiny bit of time |
| 20:19.55 | krka | well, why do you need the tooltips when you're training? |
| 20:20.57 | ckknight | so back the the point before, [Ammo], for the use case of LibAbacus, it is better to recycle tables |
| 20:20.59 | krka | i'd just set a dirty flag upon all events, and check that flag when trying to show a tooltip |
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| 20:21.25 | [Ammo] | ckknight: which you don't need a framework for |
| 20:21.28 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, nice idea |
| 20:21.35 | krka | let me guess, libabacus provides easy to use functions for addition and subtractions of numbers? |
| 20:22.08 | ckknight | [Ammo], yea, but it's already in the framework, as well as things such as contracts and unit tests, which I plan to use all of, therefore, it's worthwhile to me to use the framework than to rewrite all 3 parts manually |
| 20:22.09 | krka | i use that kind of lazy loading everywhere - it really speeds up some things |
| 20:22.26 | ckknight | didn't anybody tell you that reinventing the wheel is bad? |
| 20:22.36 | krka | and neatly avoids problems if some events trigger multiple times |
| 20:22.37 | ckknight | krka, Abacus formats dates and money |
| 20:22.39 | cncfanatics | krka, I'm probably schedule a cache regen next time a tooltip is shown when the event I registered triggers |
| 20:22.53 | krka | cncfanatics: exactly |
| 20:23.06 | cncfanatics | there will be a small hookup on the first tooltip, but thats it |
| 20:23.29 | [Ammo] | reinventing the wheel might be bad, but bloating a useful lib that should have no ties to a framework is worse |
| 20:23.31 | krka | ckknight: wasn't the point that the overhead from the framework would make it not-worth it? |
| 20:23.49 | [Ammo] | brb, walking the dog |
| 20:24.06 | cncfanatics | and I'm going to get some sleep |
| 20:24.11 | cncfanatics | thanks krka |
| 20:24.18 | ckknight | krka, but I use stuff like contracts and unit tests as well, and since I use the framework everywhere else, it's already loaded and thus not a big deal for me |
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| 20:24.30 | cncfanatics | ckknight, "for you" |
| 20:24.44 | ckknight | yep. |
| 20:24.49 | cncfanatics | its a compromise though, in either case |
| 20:25.13 | cncfanatics | I'm of the oppinion that having the lib loaded twice is silly |
| 20:25.16 | ckknight | right, and I'll take the one that involves the least amount of overall work so that I can do more important things |
| 20:25.37 | krka | i have a hard time imagining that recycling tables with a framework is less code and easier to use than simply let lua handle it |
| 20:26.07 | cncfanatics | don't think LibAbacus has anything to do with that ? |
| 20:26.28 | ckknight | krka, it's 1 extra line to get the recycling functions, and you have to delete the tables after you're done, so 1 line for each of that |
| 20:26.35 | ckknight | either way, it's not all that much code to add |
| 20:26.52 | ckknight | also: from the talk page and all, it seems to me that <=128 key tables are better to recycle |
| 20:26.55 | ckknight | which I tend to use |
| 20:27.07 | krka | right. but it's still more work than in plain lua, and possibly slower than plain lua |
| 20:27.07 | ckknight | and is the general case for what I've seen |
| 20:27.15 | krka | ckknight: those benchmarks are without framework |
| 20:27.31 | cncfanatics | right, i'm really going to bed now, g'night |
| 20:27.34 | ckknight | it's 2 extra function calls per, and I can understand that, that takes time |
| 20:27.46 | krka | and method lookups |
| 20:27.50 | ckknight | (note: not method calls, a function is returned) |
| 20:28.01 | krka | ah i see |
| 20:28.05 | ckknight | you do local newList, del = Rock:GetRecyclingFunctions("namespace", "newList", "del") |
| 20:28.36 | ckknight | (there's also newSet and newDict) |
| 20:28.59 | krka | what's the difference? |
| 20:29.08 | krka | newList only wipes out integer indices? |
| 20:29.33 | Kaelten | its python datatypes in a language that doesn't have them :s |
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| 20:30.06 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48100 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add a note to the documentation about how recycling large tables is bad for karma. |
| 20:30.07 | ckknight | krka, newList(1, 2, 3) => { 1, 2, 3 } |
| 20:30.18 | ckknight | newSet(1, 2, 3) = { [1] = true, [2] = true, [3] = true } |
| 20:30.29 | ckknight | newDict(1, 2, 3, 4) = { [1] = 2, [3] = 4 } |
| 20:30.35 | ckknight | that's it, krka |
| 20:30.37 | krka | i see |
| 20:30.42 | ckknight | pretty useful, really |
| 20:30.55 | ckknight | especially to do newSet((";"):split(someString)) |
| 20:30.55 | krka | using select or recursion? |
| 20:30.59 | ckknight | select |
| 20:31.12 | krka | i see |
| 20:31.27 | krka | well, it'd be ok for small number of parameters |
| 20:32.03 | ckknight | it's atypical to use a whole lot |
| 20:32.12 | ckknight | and if you would, you'd just make a new list and populate yourself |
| 20:32.19 | krka | right |
| 20:32.57 | ckknight | also, since it's namespaced, one addon can't "infect" another addon's tables |
| 20:33.09 | ckknight | or cause double-free problems |
| 20:33.23 | nevcairiel | if your recycling is working right, that shouldnt really happen either |
| 20:33.55 | Elkano | well, Compost had the problem |
| 20:33.55 | ckknight | well, that's up to the dev to keep track of, make sure that you don't hold onto a reference you delete |
| 20:34.12 | ckknight | by keeping it namespaced, at least only one addon has the problem and a problem in PitBull doesn't show up in BigWigs, for example |
| 20:35.26 | krka | ckknight: why does namespace matter? aren't the tables stored garbage anyway? |
| 20:35.44 | ckknight | it matters in case someone accidentally holds onto a table reference |
| 20:36.01 | ckknight | because you call del(t), you could technically alter t after the fact |
| 20:36.06 | krka | right |
| 20:39.45 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r48101 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: Sc/Leotheras: Fix after demon whirlwind. |
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| 20:40.26 | Sinaloit | how long does ace.pastey keep stuff? |
| 20:40.31 | ckknight | not sure |
| 20:40.37 | ckknight | hey |TheKarn| |
| 20:40.46 | Arrowmaster | probably longer htan ou care or want |
| 20:40.55 | |TheKarn| | hey ck |
| 20:42.25 | Sinaloit | well theres one from 8/8 anything before that appears to be gone but dunno if its # of records or timed expiration |
| 20:42.58 | nevcairiel | i think its based on last access |
| 20:43.04 | nevcairiel | if you visit a link quite often |
| 20:43.09 | nevcairiel | it will stay |
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| 20:48.56 | Sinaloit | thanks was just trying to figure out if it would stay long enough to be vaguely useful in a post |
| 20:49.42 | Diao | hmm |
| 20:49.44 | Diao | for AucA |
| 20:50.26 | sag_ich_nicht | someone recommend me good movies please :O |
| 20:50.32 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, SuperBad |
| 20:50.49 | |TheKarn| | well i'm watching Face Off atm |
| 20:50.50 | [Ammo] | Planet Terror |
| 20:50.57 | |TheKarn| | Epic Movie |
| 20:51.02 | |TheKarn| | Eragon |
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| 20:51.17 | Sinaloit | Idiocracy |
| 20:51.25 | Sinaloit | Eragon?!?!? |
| 20:51.28 | [Ammo] | or if you're into alternative movies with a twist: The Butterfly Effect |
| 20:51.37 | |TheKarn| | lol i'm listing bad films |
| 20:51.55 | [Ammo] | Fear and loathing in las vegas |
| 20:52.00 | mikma | ooh |
| 20:52.05 | mikma | falilv <3 |
| 20:52.14 | mikma | had to buy it in DVD when i saw it :D |
| 20:52.20 | ckknight | Eragon is not a good movie |
| 20:52.27 | mikma | i agree. |
| 20:52.28 | orionshock | morning all |
| 20:52.33 | ckknight | morning, orionshock |
| 20:52.37 | ckknight | the missus treating you okay? |
| 20:52.38 | mikma | it's a horrible, horrible movie. die eragon-series |
| 20:52.41 | |Stan| | eragon suck if you read the book |
| 20:52.44 | |Stan| | *s |
| 20:53.47 | orionshock | ckknight: was that directed at me? |
| 20:53.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:51] <@[Ammo]> or if you're into alternative movies with a twist: The Butterfly Effect <--everything. |
| 20:53.47 | ckknight | [Ammo], I liked The Butterfly Effect. The sequel was horrid. |
| 20:53.47 | ckknight | yes, orionshock |
| 20:53.47 | [Ammo] | I never saw the sequel |
| 20:53.47 | ckknight | it was _horrible_ |
| 20:53.47 | mikma | there's a sequel? |
| 20:53.47 | orionshock | 21 / M/ / AZ / Single |
| 20:53.47 | orionshock | :P |
| 20:53.47 | ckknight | yes, mikma |
| 20:53.47 | ckknight | orionshock, being facetious |
| 20:53.47 | mikma | wow. that's a movie i won't see |
| 20:54.03 | Sinaloit | enjoying the 99degree weather here orionshock? |
| 20:54.05 | orionshock | meh.. roommates owe me money.... seems close enough :D |
| 20:54.19 | [Ammo] | or another good movie: Adaptation |
| 20:54.28 | [Ammo] | start off slow but ends with a bang :) |
| 20:54.33 | ckknight | [Ammo], also good |
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| 20:54.42 | ckknight | I liked Becoming John Malkovich |
| 20:54.46 | ckknight | wait |
| 20:54.46 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.49 | ckknight | Being John Malkovich |
| 20:54.50 | [Ammo] | yeah that one is excellent |
| 20:54.51 | orionshock | *liked |
| 20:54.54 | Sinaloit | 300! |
| 20:54.55 | ckknight | orionshock, no you did not! |
| 20:55.05 | [Ammo] | The worlds fastest Indian is cool as well |
| 20:55.09 | Tornhoof | eragon sucked |
| 20:55.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:55.14 | Tornhoof | big time |
| 20:55.38 | orionshock | having never read the book, it was a good movie, granted the actors (read stand-in's) did need alot of help; but it had a good story line |
| 20:55.42 | ckknight | lol, The Butterfly Effect 2 was shot in 20 days |
| 20:56.00 | ckknight | orionshock, true, but really, the acting was bad |
| 20:56.03 | ckknight | that's what killed it |
| 20:56.13 | ckknight | imho |
| 20:56.14 | [Ammo] | V for vendetta |
| 20:56.16 | orionshock | true |
| 20:56.29 | ckknight | oh, I liked The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind |
| 20:56.31 | orionshock | don't dare say V was a bad movie, i'll go postal |
| 20:56.44 | ckknight | never saw it, I should |
| 20:56.50 | orionshock | yes |
| 20:57.02 | orionshock | go rent / download it right now |
| 20:57.03 | [Ammo] | v for vendetta is awesome |
| 20:57.03 | ckknight | but then that's just some devious plot to keep me from coding |
| 20:57.07 | ckknight | so...later |
| 20:57.59 | [Ammo] | Children of Men |
| 20:57.59 | [Ammo] | or man |
| 20:57.59 | [Ammo] | awesome doomsday movie |
| 20:57.59 | [Ammo] | longshots etc, very well filmed |
| 20:58.15 | ckknight | oh good movie |
| 20:58.27 | ckknight | I loved the shot in the battle scene where the blood got on the camera |
| 20:58.30 | ckknight | made it feel so real |
| 20:58.43 | ckknight | like it was more of a journalistic documentary |
| 20:59.59 | mikma | well. talking about battle scenes. Band of Brothers <3 |
| 21:00.36 | [Ammo] | opening of saving private ryan |
| 21:00.37 | orionshock | "Saving Ryan's Private" ... despite the name or story line it had some interesting war shots |
| 21:01.20 | mikma | i should buy the band of brothers dvd box but it's so damn expensive :P |
| 21:01.40 | snurre | i just dl'd Band of Brothers in 1080p :D |
| 21:01.48 | snurre | pure wankfest |
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| 21:03.00 | mikma | hehehehe |
| 21:03.02 | mikma | length: 782 min |
| 21:03.34 | snurre | only 51.24gb :) |
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| 21:08.56 | Soulless | any good dkp packages out there or is eqdkp still the de facto one |
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| 21:09.25 | Saroz | still eqdkp, sadly |
| 21:11.21 | Soulless | are there any new mods for in-game tracking? |
| 21:11.21 | Soulless | i got sick of ct_raidtracker really qucik |
| 21:11.21 | [Ammo] | NRT http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/nrt.html |
| 21:11.21 | Saroz | ye NRT is best |
| 21:11.32 | Soulless | what kind of system does nihilum use? |
| 21:11.45 | Saroz | dont think they wanna say |
| 21:11.47 | Soulless | plz don't say zero-sum |
| 21:11.51 | [Ammo] | nrt has several export options |
| 21:12.07 | Soulless | and it can be exported into eqdkp? |
| 21:12.10 | Saroz | yes |
| 21:12.17 | Soulless | ty so much guys xD |
| 21:12.18 | [Ammo] | it has CTRT compat export |
| 21:12.26 | orionshock | whats wrong with Zero-Sum? |
| 21:12.30 | [Ammo] | which is what you're looking for |
| 21:12.38 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48102 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 21:12.38 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 21:12.38 | CIA-14 | - Attempt at handling default states smarter. |
| 21:13.15 | Soulless | nothing wrong with zero-sum, except that my guild doesn't use it solol |
| 21:13.35 | Soulless | im not sure what the name would be for what we use |
| 21:13.48 | ckknight | part of me wants to level to 70 and raid |
| 21:13.52 | ckknight | just so that I can make raid mods |
| 21:13.54 | Soulless | fix points per boss/event kill, and its silent bid on everything |
| 21:14.01 | snurre | bidding ftl |
| 21:14.17 | Soulless | bidding ftl |
| 21:14.22 | Soulless | ftw* |
| 21:14.23 | Soulless | lol |
| 21:14.28 | Soulless | dropped the ball there >_> |
| 21:14.29 | orionshock | part of me wants to xfer servers so i can raid |
| 21:14.55 | Soulless | is NRT an ace mod? |
| 21:15.16 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 21:15.17 | orionshock | no |
| 21:15.20 | orionshock | :P |
| 21:15.22 | [Ammo] | but not on ace svn |
| 21:15.23 | Soulless | lol |
| 21:15.30 | Soulless | fair enough |
| 21:15.30 | [Ammo] | by request of nihilum |
| 21:15.35 | [Ammo] | they wanted the traffic on their server |
| 21:17.19 | ckknight | orionshock, US/EU, Horde/Ally? |
| 21:19.28 | orionshock | Crushridge (Cyclone-US) Horde : 70Druid Atradies |
| 21:19.28 | sag_ich_nicht | someone tell me the name of that movie in a small town that has a rock in the middle of a river as central part of the plot, i can't remember the title, and googling doesn't help. at all. |
| 21:19.46 | Gnarfoz | "the rock in the middle of the river" |
| 21:20.31 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48103 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceAddon-3.0 - readability upgrade and bugfix |
| 21:20.46 | sag_ich_nicht | no, not it, Gnarfoz :P |
| 21:21.01 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 21:21.11 | Gnarfoz | couldn't resist ;p |
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| 21:22.31 | CIA-14 | 03ag 07andreasg * r48104 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: added range check module |
| 21:24.40 | Sinaloit | Soulless: You can even make your own NRT export formatter if you want |
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| 21:27.23 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48105 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Ace3 - yaaar! those spaces! |
| 21:28.22 | orionshock | so who all is working on Ace3? |
| 21:28.35 | Funkeh` | I heard your mom is working on Ace3 |
| 21:28.36 | Arrowmaster | who isnt |
| 21:29.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight link to your issue tracker again, i forv |
| 21:29.39 | ckknight | jira.wowace.com |
| 21:29.39 | sag_ich_nicht | *i forgot to bookmark it on my home pc when i sshed home from work |
| 21:29.40 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 21:29.43 | ckknight | and click "create issue" |
| 21:29.46 | ckknight | and choose project you want |
| 21:30.21 | ckknight | Arrowmaster, I'm not |
| 21:30.21 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i know how to work it, obviously |
| 21:30.21 | sag_ich_nicht | considering i created quite a few issues already :P |
| 21:30.21 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:31.20 | ckknight | speaking of jira, Kaelten, if you have the time, do you think you could make a "Rock" project for me? |
| 21:31.21 | Kaelten | ya I'll make it in a few |
| 21:31.33 | ckknight | no rush |
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| 21:32.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight any comments on the ones i created? (the jostlelib one wasn't needed, i know, but i just had to do it :P) |
| 21:32.33 | ckknight | I'll probably fix that jostle one |
| 21:32.45 | ckknight | but your other ones were pretty good, as far as I could tell |
| 21:32.52 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r48106 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 21:32.52 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 21:32.52 | CIA-14 | - Added modules iterator |
| 21:32.53 | ckknight | lemme see... |
| 21:33.14 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 21:33.18 | sag_ich_nicht | my grep is still not done |
| 21:33.21 | sag_ich_nicht | must have locked up |
| 21:39.49 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r48107 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 21:39.49 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 21:39.49 | CIA-14 | - fixed a issue in safecall when actually no error appeared |
| 21:39.49 | CIA-14 | - added some inline docs |
| 21:39.49 | TheKarn | oooh ace3? man should i keep up with this |
| 21:40.11 | ckknight | TheKarn, how long you been gone? |
| 21:40.16 | TheKarn | too long |
| 21:40.21 | TheKarn | i havent even loaded wow for a month |
| 21:42.13 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 21:42.14 | purl | methinks rock is an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 21:42.14 | ckknight | is purl dead? |
| 21:42.14 | TheKarn | is purl dead? |
| 21:42.14 | ckknight | purl sucks |
| 21:42.14 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 21:42.14 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:42.14 | ckknight | TheKarn, oh well, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 21:42.14 | Ominous | Kaelten: is Ace3 being built from scratch or just ace2 being improved |
| 21:42.14 | TheKarn | i wonder if kaelten has missed me |
| 21:42.14 | [Ammo] | Ominous: scratch |
| 21:42.15 | Funkeh` | Scratch |
| 21:42.15 | Kaelten | whats up karn? |
| 21:42.19 | Sinaloit | Kaelten: Is Combine officially dead? |
| 21:42.52 | Kaelten | no |
| 21:42.59 | Kaelten | its been picked up by anothoer author |
| 21:44.20 | sag_ich_nicht | so why are ace3 and rock separate now anyway, i missed everything and nobody will tell me |
| 21:44.20 | sag_ich_nicht | and no, i will not ask purl for logs :P |
| 21:44.20 | Sinaloit | joshborke hasn't commited anything to Combine since April *shrug* ah well =) |
| 21:44.21 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, because despite me offering Rock as a base for Ace3, Kaelten decided to start from scratch anyway |
| 21:44.24 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48108 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0: remove local for newmodule getmodule since they're already declared local at the top |
| 21:44.35 | ckknight | I thought this was a bad idea and decided that I'd continue going with Rock |
| 21:45.15 | Kaelten | Sinaloit: no Guillitine |
| 21:45.16 | ckknight | especially seeing as it's very close to done |
| 21:45.16 | sag_ich_nicht | so basicially you and Kaelten decided to both be dumb, at the same time. |
| 21:45.28 | ckknight | that's the general gist of it |
| 21:45.43 | [Ammo] | don't put this on Kaelten |
| 21:45.48 | [Ammo] | put it on the lot of us |
| 21:45.52 | [Ammo] | thank you |
| 21:46.06 | Gandharva | I'm so happy! Kael down! :D |
| 21:46.20 | Kaelten | I don't appriciate it being put on me either |
| 21:46.23 | [Ammo] | grats gand |
| 21:46.24 | ckknight | *shrug* Kaelten was the one who I offered Joker (now Rock) as a base to, and he was the one who refused to use it |
| 21:46.56 | Kaelten | and I told you I'd be happy to use it as a base of ideas, you weren't willing to work with us. |
| 21:46.56 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight stop trying to pull a one man show, Kaelten take the input from ckknight, he started because no-one DID until ckk gave you all a kick in the ass by starting to do something new with joker/rock |
| 21:46.59 | ckknight | therefore, despite being a middle man in this whole political charade, is ultimately responsible in my mind |
| 21:47.03 | Sinaloit | Kaelten: Guillitine is the new dev? |
| 21:47.09 | Kaelten | Sinaloit: yes |
| 21:47.13 | ckknight | I'm completely willing to work with you if you don't throw my code out |
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| 21:47.28 | sag_ich_nicht | -out +out of the window |
| 21:47.33 | [Ammo] | your development committee addition on the wiki says otherwise |
| 21:48.18 | ckknight | I don't have an issue with advice or even going over concepts and ideas, which I state |
| 21:48.18 | [Ammo] | anyway, done is done, we got Ace3 you got Rock |
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| 21:48.18 | ckknight | you have a few lines of code, I have a working framework |
| 21:48.53 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 21:48.57 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up and merge the code already |
| 21:49.00 | sag_ich_nicht | -_- |
| 21:49.08 | ckknight | I've no issue with that |
| 21:49.26 | sag_ich_nicht | and just call the new framework FUCKYEAHSEAKING |
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| 21:49.30 | sag_ich_nicht | (lib) |
| 21:49.37 | ckknight | Seaking? |
| 21:49.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ...nevermind. |
| 21:50.27 | Sinaloit | Kaelten: Thanks, is it still being deved in the SVN or should I look elsewhere for it? |
| 21:50.36 | Kaelten | not sure I'd ask him |
| 21:54.08 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, sounds like a pokemon |
| 21:54.09 | ckknight | SeaKing, I choose you |
| 21:54.09 | sag_ich_nicht | it is. |
| 21:54.09 | ckknight | Hurricane attack! |
| 21:54.09 | sag_ich_nicht | spoilers |
| 21:54.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i am trying to trick you |
| 21:54.09 | |Stan| | <sag_ich_nicht> shut up and merge the code already <- idea of the day |
| 21:54.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight notice my secret trap of doom: SeaKing |
| 21:54.09 | ckknight | oh noes! |
| 21:54.09 | ckknight | turning us into teh Cosmoz |
| 21:54.09 | Sinaloit | You could call it Mercury... as Mercury is the First (Ace) Planet (Rock) |
| 21:54.09 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:54.09 | ckknight | or just Ace3, you know |
| 21:54.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 21:54.09 | durcyn | watching this whole Not Invented Here drama makes me want to step on my own genitals to end the pain |
| 21:54.09 | TheKarn | how about Ace Complete ... or ... Ace Whole? |
| 21:54.09 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 21:54.10 | ckknight | people were right |
| 21:54.10 | ckknight | we _should_ just skip to Ace4 |
| 21:54.11 | Funkeh` | later |
| 21:54.11 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:54.11 | Shirik | why stop at 4? |
| 21:54.16 | |Stan| | Ace 1337 |
| 21:54.18 | Shirik | call it ace Final |
| 21:54.18 | Sinaloit | Ace³ |
| 21:54.19 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:54.25 | Shirik | and then, when you want to make a new one |
| 21:54.30 | Shirik | You can call it Ace Ultimate |
| 21:54.33 | ckknight | Shirik, Ace Platinum? |
| 21:54.35 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:54.38 | Sinaloit | Ace Final II, it worked for Final Fantasy |
| 21:54.45 | ckknight | hehe |
| 21:54.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm still sometimes thinking if it would be more effective to create a library/framework that takes all the dongle functions, sea/earth/firetree/chronos/etc. cosmos functions, ace2 functions and merges it into one routine to prevent unneeded duplicated code & execution... but then i think of the coding amount and the amount of disgusting hacks involved with it and stop that line of thought pretty quickly. |
| 21:54.46 | Shirik | haha |
| 21:55.03 | ckknight | hehe, sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:55.11 | |Stan| | just merge Rock and Ace3 and call it Ace5 |
| 21:55.18 | |Stan| | worked for winamp |
| 21:55.20 | TheKarn | Ace Shit-Storm, or just ASS |
| 21:55.25 | ckknight | lol, |Stan| |
| 21:55.32 | ckknight | Winamp2 was pretty nice |
| 21:55.36 | sag_ich_nicht | it _would_ cut down execution time and memory usage, ckknight, but the coding *shudder* |
| 21:56.37 | Nicken | I never liked Winamp |
| 21:56.51 | Nicken | Useless music collection handling |
| 21:56.55 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 21:56.57 | ckknight | what do you use now? |
| 21:57.02 | TheKarn | Foobar2000 |
| 21:57.03 | Nicken | Foobar2k |
| 21:57.06 | ckknight | ah, alright |
| 21:57.07 | TheKarn | i just wish there was a linux port |
| 21:57.08 | |Stan| | well are we just babbling or are both parties willing to merge? |
| 21:57.09 | |Stan| | *hides* |
| 21:57.10 | ckknight | <-- mac user, so iTunes |
| 21:57.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 21:57.19 | ckknight | |Stan|, I am, they're not |
| 21:57.23 | sag_ich_nicht | now i know why i hate you so much ckknight |
| 21:57.25 | ckknight | as far as I can tell |
| 21:57.30 | ckknight | lol, sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:57.34 | TheKarn | ckk ... macosx wouldnt install on my amd :( |
| 21:57.40 | sag_ich_nicht | it always seemed so unreasonable |
| 21:57.42 | sag_ich_nicht | now i know why |
| 21:57.48 | |Stan| | Kaelten: can I have ur answer please? :P |
| 21:58.39 | Kaelten | sorry what? |
| 21:59.38 | Sinaloit | <|Stan|> well are we just babbling or are both parties willing to merge? I think is what he was talking about |
| 21:59.40 | |Stan| | Kaelten: do you agree on merging ace3 with rock for the best framework that was ever built? |
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| 22:00.21 | Pkekyo | ~seen Sorren |
| 22:00.24 | purl | Pkekyo: i haven't seen 'sorren' |
| 22:00.30 | Kaelten | its not that simple I'm afraid. |
| 22:00.31 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 22:02.58 | |Stan| | Kaelten: it's not "hey let me copypaste this code" but it's possible |
| 22:02.59 | art3mis | ya know ive had auctioneer installed for like 5 days now |
| 22:02.59 | TheKarn | its not just a merger of code, its a merger of ideas |
| 22:02.59 | ckknight | Kaelten, is it because it's political or because it's hard code-wise? |
| 22:02.59 | Corey | cnc is never around when i have a bug lol |
| 22:02.59 | art3mis | and i JUST realized theres a yellow pullout bar on the right hand side of my screen |
| 22:02.59 | TheKarn | ckk, everything is hard when politics are in play - regardless of the scale |
| 22:02.59 | Kaelten | Joker is a project built by one man, with one idea and one point of view. |
| 22:02.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten because no-one gave any input |
| 22:02.59 | art3mis | ckknight: im guessing tis more a long the lines of "the way things were done" |
| 22:02.59 | sag_ich_nicht | despite multiples requests for it |
| 22:03.07 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: you have no idea what you are talking about |
| 22:03.08 | Kaelten | while that makes for consistancy and quicker development, that does not guarentee good product |
| 22:03.16 | Kaelten | sag_ich_nicht: there was input, it was ignored |
| 22:03.19 | art3mis | ie. what you think is best may not coinside with what kael & co think is |
| 22:03.23 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 22:03.29 | art3mis | along those lines anyways |
| 22:03.32 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48109 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0: giving every addon the same table pointers to store modules is bad mojo. |
| 22:03.33 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48110 10LibRollCall-2.0/LibRollCall-2.0.lua: LibRollCall-2.0 - LibRockEvent-2.0, not LibRockEVent-2.0, though this does give me the idea to make library names case-insensitive for access. |
| 22:03.44 | ckknight | Kaelten, that's not true, I took input, in some cases I considered it the wrong way of doing things, gave clear reasons to not do them |
| 22:04.04 | Kaelten | bottom line is ck, you're not willing to reach a consensus with the rest of the committee |
| 22:04.07 | |Stan| | ideas can change |
| 22:04.22 | art3mis | ckknight: it's also the reason there are 15+ unit frames available, because not everyone does everythi g the same way |
| 22:04.29 | Thrae | Camelization ForTheWin |
| 22:04.33 | TheKarn | from what i gather ck didnt want a comittee based decision process |
| 22:04.38 | art3mis | camelization? |
| 22:04.40 | TheKarn | but tbh its one person or comittee |
| 22:04.43 | art3mis | k thats a rtad word |
| 22:05.01 | art3mis | err rad |
| 22:05.05 | ckknight | if I legitimately ignored someone, I'm very sorry. I've asked Kaelten to make a Rock project on Jira, so if anyone wants to lodge a comment there, I'd be more than willing to either answer, implement, or do something with it |
| 22:05.18 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 22:05.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i think you guys are all fucking idiots for still using IRC and issue trackers for trying to solve such (mostly interpersonal issues) |
| 22:05.54 | sag_ich_nicht | get on a damn teamspeak/ventrilo/mumble server. |
| 22:05.59 | durcyn | ck, bureaucrats happen on any open source project, the best solution is to get rid of them as soon as possible |
| 22:06.26 | Mikk | can we ban sag_ich_nicht please? |
| 22:06.33 | art3mis | it's all personal choice really, i see nothig wrong with have all the libs aboot |
| 22:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: because i'm being honest and not a pretending, lying-in-your-face-for-pointless-friendliness person? |
| 22:07.11 | art3mis | there may be a slight conflict with using the ace svn for rock lib stuff but thats kaels choice ;P |
| 22:07.45 | [Ammo] | sag_ich_nicht: you're a fanboi troll making statements without knowning details |
| 22:07.56 | ckknight | durcyn, the bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy |
| 22:08.24 | Pkekyo | anyone know the author of CooldownTimers? |
| 22:08.34 | Pkekyo | ~cooldowntimers |
| 22:08.41 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: read the toc |
| 22:09.14 | Pkekyo | I know it's Sorren, but does anyone know_him? |
| 22:09.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo]: if i was a fanboy, i wouldn't flame ckknight for issues that are so old that every single addon developer that ever used fubar knows about them, i wouldn't bug Antiarc about a bug no-one seems to be capable of reproducing. |
| 22:09.59 | sag_ich_nicht | etc. |
| 22:10.00 | Kaelten | regardless of troll stuff |
| 22:10.04 | Kaelten | we can drop that right now |
| 22:10.06 | Kaelten | it does no one any good |
| 22:10.46 | sag_ich_nicht | what does no one any good is another new framework, increasing memory and cpu usage for users even more |
| 22:10.53 | Shadowed | uh no |
| 22:10.55 | Shadowed | we've gone over this sag |
| 22:11.02 | Shadowed | I can safely say, you essentially have no idea what you're talking about |
| 22:11.11 | Punkie` | lol |
| 22:13.01 | *** join/#wowace evl_ (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 22:13.01 | Shadowed | infact, we went over this yesterday |
| 22:13.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed care to prove your point? |
| 22:13.01 | ckknight | *shrug* well, if anyone has legitimate concerns about Rock, I'm asking you to please file any complaints through the jira project, so that it's written down in a relatively stable place |
| 22:13.01 | Kaelten | your dbc framework is a waste |
| 22:13.01 | Shadowed | sag_ich_nicht, care to prove yours? |
| 22:13.01 | Kaelten | you shouldn't need a harness for good unit tests |
| 22:13.01 | ckknight | Kaelten, please file it on the jira, I'm asking |
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| 22:13.01 | ckknight | I don't want it on IRC |
| 22:13.01 | Kaelten | and your recycling functions don't add much in the way of real usefulness |
| 22:13.01 | ckknight | because it's not a good place |
| 22:13.01 | Kaelten | then I don't want any slights towards myself or Ace3 or its viability on IRC either please |
| 22:13.01 | ckknight | oh, I'm sorry, that's not happening |
| 22:13.01 | ckknight | alright, I'll cya all in a little while, gotta go do some charity work |
| 22:15.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: load ace2. okay, we have a bit of base memory usage. load dongle. more. load sea. more. load rock. more. load ace3. MORE. this all adds up, no matter how good your garbage collector, possible JITC(don't know enough about the backend of WoWs engine there, but i doubt it has JITC) and what ever other optimisations you have, it's more memory and more CPU usage |
| 22:15.25 | Pkekyo | dongle? sea? rock? sounds kinky :> |
| 22:15.27 | Kaelten | ckknight: are you saying that you will not honor my request? |
| 22:15.45 | TheKarn | kaelten it could be read two ways |
| 22:15.54 | Kaelten | I know, thats why I'm verifying |
| 22:15.55 | TheKarn | sarcastically or literally |
| 22:16.20 | Punkie` | sag_ich_nicht: you have a choice of which addon you use, right? |
| 22:16.25 | Shadowed | The fact that you seem to think that an extra framework or two will cripple the UI, proves my point basically. Infact, I bet you'll save more resources if you are libral with usage of libraries so the game doesn't have to load the file then throw it out then you are using an extra 2-3 frameworks that are actually needed. |
| 22:16.40 | Shadowed | and as Punkie` said. You could simply be a fanboy and only use Rock libraries, nobodies stopping you. |
| 22:17.21 | Kaelten | part of the goals of Ace3 is embodied in LibStub which, if library authors will follow this idea, will make libraries usable by any of the frameworks |
| 22:17.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten which they won't. |
| 22:17.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan |
| 22:17.46 | Shadowed | actually yes they are |
| 22:17.57 | sag_ich_nicht | your 15 minutes of flaming why no, this is not correct. |
| 22:18.02 | NightHawkTheSane | mm.. i smell sweeping generalizations. |
| 22:18.02 | Kaelten | with the exception of ck, alot of people are on board |
| 22:18.03 | Shadowed | you cannot expect something to be picked up instantly, but there are libraries that are picking it up. |
| 22:18.07 | sag_ich_nicht | (this goes for you too, Shirik ) |
| 22:18.26 | Kaelten | dongle is agreeing to adopt it as their stub |
| 22:18.32 | Kaelten | auctioneer is going to use it in their next addon |
| 22:18.37 | [Ammo] | norganna picked up libstub for auctioneer, it's being used by dongle .. |
| 22:18.39 | Kaelten | Ace2 already uses it |
| 22:18.57 | Kaelten | we've got adoption pretty much covered |
| 22:19.02 | Punkie` | I don't see why there is such an uproar over something that helps support other communities |
| 22:19.22 | kenlyric | new auctioneer rocks. Show Price per unit is the most fantabulous option ever. |
| 22:19.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Punkie` the uproar is about pointless waste of time and splitting of resources that would be better used combined. |
| 22:19.30 | Shirik | so let me get this straight |
| 22:19.34 | kenlyric | Punkie`: oh, they do this all the time. |
| 22:19.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: because people get stupidly religious about shit like this |
| 22:19.43 | kenlyric | good mods come out despite it :) |
| 22:19.47 | Punkie` | yep |
| 22:19.48 | Shirik | LibStub would allow us to maintain minimal assocation yet use a library every once in a while? |
| 22:19.51 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: surprisingly, sometimes |
| 22:20.54 | [Ammo] | Shirik: correct |
| 22:20.55 | [Ammo] | Shirik: it's independant and just a versioning stub |
| 22:20.55 | Punkie` | at the end of the day, you probably save CPU and memory usage because although you are using 2-3 different frameworks, each frameworks can access the same libraries |
| 22:20.55 | [Ammo] | nothing more |
| 22:20.55 | Shirik | then ( sag_ich_nicht ) I don't see any reason that a Conspiracy module couldn't include that and provide the appropriate themes with SML like you desired |
| 22:20.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik damn it |
| 22:20.55 | Shirik | this way we don't have to include it in the core, but it can still be done |
| 22:20.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate you |
| 22:20.55 | sag_ich_nicht | (not) |
| 22:21.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: now explain that to cidan |
| 22:21.22 | kenlyric | what's a cidan? |
| 22:21.28 | kenlyric | is that like a soupe? |
| 22:21.29 | sag_ich_nicht | then mention that it has something to do with Ace, even if only in a more or less remote way. |
| 22:21.41 | Tornhoof | damn i missed the fun here too, i shouldn't do my dailies that late |
| 22:21.45 | Tornhoof | gnite everybody |
| 22:22.15 | kenlyric | immortality |
| 22:22.16 | ckknight | (haven't gone yet) Jesus fucking Christ, Kaelten, I was the one who wrote the damn LibStub patch for AceLibrary. I also made Rock use LibStub as a base. |
| 22:22.21 | ckknight | get your fucking head out of your ass |
| 22:22.24 | ckknight | alright, now I'm going |
| 22:22.30 | Kaelten | ... |
| 22:22.37 | Shadowed | I wonder if the charity would still let you in for that language =D |
| 22:22.41 | kenlyric | internet debate at its finest. |
| 22:22.43 | Kaelten | so there will be slights against me on irc |
| 22:22.49 | |Stan| | [Ammo]: will auctioneer be updatable via wau then? |
| 22:22.57 | [Ammo] | no |
| 22:23.01 | |Stan| | :( |
| 22:23.01 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, they would, kenlyric, as long as he does his work. |
| 22:24.10 | kenlyric | what? |
| 22:24.10 | Shadowed | just because it uses LibStub doesn't mean it's an Ace addon and will automatically be on WAU |
| 22:24.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten: which is why i said it before already, get on a damn voice chat, you're all overreacting |
| 22:24.10 | kenlyric | right. |
| 22:24.10 | Tem | sag_ich_nicht, I am adding my voice to the chorus of "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT." |
| 22:24.10 | kenlyric | tempers on voice chat are always well controlled. |
| 22:24.10 | nevcairiel | you know, you can scream much better on voice chat |
| 22:24.10 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: and you're precisely helping that? |
| 22:24.10 | Tem | We have been over this many, many times before. |
| 22:25.00 | Kaelten | ckknight: if you where on board you'd go out of your way to make ever lib not depend on anything |
| 22:25.06 | Kaelten | thats what I was refering to. |
| 22:25.56 | Tem | Kaelten, we found out 2 years ago that ckk isn't willing to work with the group. |
| 22:26.07 | Tem | it's no use wasting your breath now. |
| 22:27.55 | Shirik | am I missing some big drama moment or something? |
| 22:28.01 | kenlyric | no. |
| 22:29.01 | sylvanaar | yes, this is the part of the show where everyone gets emo and settles old scores |
| 22:29.01 | kenlyric | if programmers didn't have egos, they wouldn't be programmers. |
| 22:29.01 | Shadowed | no |
| 22:29.01 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: everyone has an ego. |
| 22:29.01 | Shadowed | everyone has an ego, some people just know how to look past it and work together for the better good |
| 22:29.01 | kenlyric | it's all framework. |
| 22:29.01 | Shirik | I want an eggo :( |
| 22:29.01 | NightHawkTheSane | it's just a matter of what their egotistical about |
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| 22:29.15 | kenlyric | they only get like this about framework stuff. It was dongle last time. |
| 22:29.20 | Kaelten | ~eggo Shirik |
| 22:29.22 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. they where just about to conclude that "ckknight is just not worth it", but then continue to flame and rant on, despite having just concluded that, then ckknight was going to STILL not be afk, and then this flaming would go on |
| 22:29.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: if i start craving waffles later, I am so totally going to hurt you |
| 22:29.47 | Shadowed | mmm waffles |
| 22:29.48 | Shirik | I have chocolate chip eggos in my freezer |
| 22:29.50 | Shadowed | tasty waffles |
| 22:29.51 | kenlyric | I just munch my popcorn and hope it yields enough animosity for good mods to result. |
| 22:29.56 | Tem | sag_ich_nicht, most of us concluded 2 years ago the ckk is not worth the effort. |
| 22:30.00 | kenlyric | zomg roflwaflle |
| 22:30.01 | Shadowed | strawberries and whipped cream on them |
| 22:30.12 | sylvanaar | i have cinnimon swirls from papa johsn |
| 22:30.16 | kenlyric | Shadowed: get out of my sight you heathen bastard. |
| 22:30.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i have mangos. |
| 22:30.22 | Shadowed | NEVER |
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| 22:31.26 | sylvanaar | and poor typing skills |
| 22:33.47 | hyperChipmunk | with hookers? |
| 22:33.47 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
| 22:33.53 | Mudkipz | someone say hookers |
| 22:33.59 | Mudkipz | SO I HERD |
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| 22:34.20 | kenlyric | forget the flapjacks |
| 22:35.23 | kenlyric | waffles can even derail IRC drama. Is there anything waffles can't do? |
| 22:35.23 | Mikk | cure flatulence |
| 22:35.23 | Mudkipz | ^ |
| 22:35.24 | Kemayo | I think we should resolve this like reasonable people -- ckknight and Kaelten need to duel in front of ironforge for Ace2's userbase. |
| 22:35.26 | kenlyric | you're not using them correctly then |
| 22:35.47 | Kaelten | ~lart Kemayo |
| 22:35.47 | purl | hits Kemayo with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
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| 22:36.55 | Tem | Kemayo, I'll take that duel in kael's place |
| 22:36.55 | Kemayo | But think of the killer music videos we could get out of it! |
| 22:37.05 | Tem | and I guarantee I won't lose |
| 22:37.19 | [Ammo] | just because you have a 70 and he doesn't! |
| 22:37.24 | Tem | pretty much, yeah |
| 22:37.27 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 22:37.27 | nevcairiel | ckknight is like lvl 40, noone here would loose :P |
| 22:37.32 | nevcairiel | even my resto druid can beat him! |
| 22:37.52 | Tem | your resto dr00d can probably beat me |
| 22:37.54 | Tem | ficking druids |
| 22:38.06 | nevcairiel | whats your class? |
| 22:38.10 | Tem | Mage |
| 22:38.12 | [Ammo] | tem the mage |
| 22:38.15 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 22:38.21 | nevcairiel | i can beat mages |
| 22:38.29 | nevcairiel | if i survive the initial burst |
| 22:38.40 | Tem | you can heal through me to until I'm oom without using anything but instant casts |
| 22:38.47 | Shadowed | you can staff him to death |
| 22:39.31 | nevcairiel | like i said, its generally only an issue when initial burst of instant pyro or arcane power .. |
| 22:39.33 | Gnarfoz | mage actually asked for +weapon dmg for his staff just today |
| 22:39.49 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48111 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0/AceEvent-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceEvent-3.0: the success variable from pcall is there to check a certain condition, lets use it |
| 22:39.53 | Tem | Gnarfoz, what level? |
| 22:39.57 | Gnarfoz | 70 |
| 22:40.07 | Tem | abuuh? |
| 22:40.12 | Tem | well |
| 22:40.12 | Gnarfoz | pretty much |
| 22:40.13 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:40.13 | Tem | um |
| 22:40.20 | Tem | maybe he was too poor to get something useful? |
| 22:40.41 | [Ammo] | or he liked wacking stuff |
| 22:40.44 | Tem | or maybe he wanted it because it looks cool? |
| 22:40.50 | Tem | I got +weapon damage on my staff once |
| 22:40.59 | Tem | I was level 26 at the time |
| 22:41.01 | nevcairiel | isnt weapon dmg that default blue glow? |
| 22:41.07 | Tem | aye |
| 22:41.19 | Tem | and there weren't any caster enchants |
| 22:41.39 | nevcairiel | i got demon slaying on all weapons from ~35-50 |
| 22:41.40 | Gnarfoz | I thought it was for looks or whatever, but it was http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28633 |
| 22:41.41 | nevcairiel | just for looks! |
| 22:42.55 | Gnarfoz | anyway, trade chat turned into a bloody mess because of it, so I guess he never got his enchant ;D |
| 22:43.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:44.46 | Antiarc | http://static.pici.se/pictures/TtkPIPHXQ.jpg |
| 22:44.46 | kenlyric | eh, low level enchants are kinda pointless anyway, might as well go for looks. |
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| 22:46.45 | Punkie` | Antiarc: why didn't he use death wish?!! |
| 22:48.17 | CIA-14 | 03boydon * r48112 10SmartQueue/ (Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua Options.lua): |
| 22:48.17 | CIA-14 | SmartQueue: |
| 22:48.17 | CIA-14 | - Added initial support for auto-porting to Battlefields. This functionality is not fully tested and still needs some tweaks (especially regarding the logic). If there are bugs please let me know. |
| 22:48.17 | CIA-14 | - Implemented new locales for the auto-port functionality. |
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| 22:50.04 | Gnarfoz | lol, gorehowl at 0.2 speed? nice |
| 22:50.47 | Nicken | Oh i got Gorehowl today hehe |
| 22:50.49 | Punkie` | that is not a gorehowl |
| 22:50.57 | Gnarfoz | not? |
| 22:51.03 | Punkie` | look at it..... |
| 22:51.09 | Gnarfoz | looks like it with crappy gfx settings |
| 22:51.26 | Punkie` | no way |
| 22:51.28 | Huuph | soul cleaver thingamajik |
| 22:51.31 | Gnarfoz | altho, it looks bigger |
| 22:51.53 | Gnarfoz | ah right, Soul Cleaver indeed |
| 22:53.04 | Gnarfoz | though: this one's even 0.1 slower |
| 22:53.04 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
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| 22:53.19 | Gnarfoz | (oh ok, looking at screenshots, it looks just remotely like gorehowl. I usually only get to feel brutal mortal strikes from it, so not much time to look at it ;P) |
| 22:54.40 | Gnarfoz | lol, I like the wowhead comments sometimes: "Aside from lore, this thing rips shit apart. Have a great day." |
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| 23:04.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Axe mentioned above is the big-ass axe from BT or Hyjal, I forget which. |
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| 23:04.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Our DPS warrior has it. |
| 23:04.47 | hypetech | somebody in my guild has a mod that announces in party chat when his hp is critical, but doesn't know which mod it is, anybody familiar with what it might be? |
| 23:05.08 | ZealotOnAStick | There was something in Cosmos that used to do that, CombatCaller or something. |
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| 23:05.33 | vorik111|afk | might be part of emergency monitor |
| 23:05.40 | ZealotOnAStick | I know there's some other ones, but I've not used such since the MC days, so I have nothing other useful to say. |
| 23:06.35 | sylvanaar | yeah, that was that thing that used to emote from the apposing faction as you were killing them in pvp |
| 23:07.08 | sylvanaar | i always thought that was funny |
| 23:07.22 | sylvanaar | so and so cries out for healing |
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| 23:16.23 | weab | why the hell don't curse's search box do anything |
| 23:16.27 | weab | this site blows |
| 23:16.51 | Thrae | weab: Are you using Firefox, and if so, do you have Javascript enabled / allow curse in NoScript? |
| 23:17.15 | Xinhuan | is there any efficiency difference to writing abc.def = 1 instead of abc["def"] = 1? |
| 23:17.23 | art3mis | cuz curse sucks ;P |
| 23:17.23 | weab | yes, yes, and i don't use noscript |
| 23:17.29 | Corey | you also gotta use the top right search one not the lower one |
| 23:17.30 | Xinhuan | or do they both compile to the same bytecode? |
| 23:17.32 | Corey | the lower one just does nothing |
| 23:18.21 | weab | who the fuck put a search box in the middle of the page that doesn't do anything |
| 23:18.33 | weab | no wonder i avoid using curse |
| 23:18.53 | NightHawkTheSane | weab: your mom |
| 23:19.09 | weab | i'd be impressed if my mom could load the page much less create it |
| 23:19.13 | sylvanaar | look at this crap you guys started http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=ECAED7A4B7722D89E31BBC2C9AE214C2?topicId=1371570830&sid=1 |
| 23:22.30 | helget | is the best way to track things you loot CHAT_MSG_LOOT, then parse the msg? |
| 23:22.30 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: maybe i'm missing something, but how is that related to anyone here? |
| 23:23.09 | Xinhuan | helget: its the only way, apart from monitoring your bag contents |
| 23:24.11 | helget | oki, thanks |
| 23:24.42 | CIA-14 | 03marroc * r48113 10ItemExport/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:24.42 | CIA-14 | ItemExport: initial commit |
| 23:24.42 | CIA-14 | - Creates a customizable list of your items for use outside of WoW |
| 23:24.42 | Xinhuan | keep in mind the itemlink in the CHAT_MSG_LOOT may not actually be in the local cache |
| 23:25.10 | sylvanaar | NightHawkTheSane im poking fun at the competing frameworks = here is someone else getting in on the act |
| 23:25.12 | Xinhuan | but it will always be safe to query the server for it at least |
| 23:25.55 | helget | I'm just making a simple lootcounter, to learn :) doubt I need that |
| 23:25.55 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: ahh, well arguably so, but I think it would be bound to happen anyway, regardless of what anyone here said or did |
| 23:26.16 | mitch1 | sylvanaar: that's not a framework as such |
| 23:26.20 | Xinhuan | changing the environment with setenvf isn't bad |
| 23:26.30 | sylvanaar | lol its a "minimalist" one |
| 23:26.30 | Xinhuan | you just need to weigh the pros and cons of doing it |
| 23:27.03 | mitch1 | sylvanaar: and it's not a bit cleaner either than placing stuff in Addon.var and such |
| 23:27.11 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 23:27.15 | Xinhuan | every function/variable call he makes to the old _G would incur a metatable call overhead |
| 23:29.09 | mitch1 | anyway, nightynight, and happy hacking on libstub/ace3/rock/dongle/whatever :) |
| 23:29.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ciao |
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| 23:29.39 | sylvanaar | haha we need to name that guy's framework |
| 23:29.52 | sylvanaar | add it to the list |
| 23:30.41 | sylvanaar | _Gwhiz |
| 23:31.15 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 23:32.29 | sylvanaar | wb |
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| 23:34.37 | sylvanaar | i think _Gwhiz is a fitting name for it anyhow |
| 23:35.33 | ckknight | _Gwhiz? |
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| 23:39.44 | Ominous | can you get a linux emulator for windows like you get a windows emulator for linux |
| 23:39.47 | ckknight | sylvanaar, lol, Bob Dole |
| 23:40.02 | ckknight | Ominous, some exist, it's typically easier to recompile with mingw or something, though |
| 23:40.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Ominous: vmware |
| 23:40.23 | Stan__ | wb ckknight |
| 23:40.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Ominous: also, it's not usually emulation |
| 23:40.40 | NightHawkTheSane | generally it's virtualization |
| 23:40.45 | Recluse | due to the extra wavy there, table.[foo][bar] = error. do i need to put like table.[foo][][bar]? (it's a blizzard table) ["foo"] = {{["bar"]=blah,},}, |
| 23:41.25 | sylvanaar | but they so 32bit host 64 bit vitrual and visa versa |
| 23:41.46 | Xinhuan | recluse, reword your question? |
| 23:42.22 | ckknight | Recluse, it's table[foo], not table.[foo] |
| 23:42.37 | ckknight | Recluse, also, you'd do table[foo][1]["bar"], it seems |
| 23:42.58 | Ominous | ckknight: NightHawkTheSane: thanks |
| 23:43.04 | Xinhuan | table.foo[1].bar |
| 23:43.12 | Xinhuan | foo is a string ;) |
| 23:43.23 | ckknight | Ominous, what did I do? |
| 23:43.40 | ckknight | oh |
| 23:43.43 | ckknight | I see ;-) |
| 23:43.43 | Stan__ | ckknight: got your pc back already? |
| 23:43.49 | ckknight | Stan__, sadly, no |
| 23:43.54 | ckknight | my guess is because it's labor day |
| 23:44.15 | Stan__ | :( |
| 23:44.25 | ckknight | I know |
| 23:44.33 | ckknight | I want to port Parrot over, I finally got all the libs for it |
| 23:44.44 | Recluse | yeah, my typo with that stray "." so even tho they are not numbered, you can still access them with [1],[2] etc? |
| 23:44.53 | Xinhuan | no. |
| 23:45.02 | Stan__ | ckknight: you could start and I test and post you all the errors :p |
| 23:45.03 | Xinhuan | in ["foo"] = {{["bar"]=blah,},}, |
| 23:45.10 | Xinhuan | you have a table inside a table |
| 23:45.14 | ckknight | Recluse, { "alpha", "bravo"} => { [1] = "alpha", [2] = "bravo" } |
| 23:45.22 | ckknight | Stan__, hehe, a bit more complicated than that, I'm afraid |
| 23:45.26 | Xinhuan | since that inside table doesn't have a string index, it is assigned a numeric one, which is 1 |
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| 23:45.43 | Recluse | got it XD ty. numbered under the hood :) |
| 23:45.48 | Stan__ | ckknight: I know^^ |
| 23:46.16 | ckknight | yep |
| 23:46.37 | sylvanaar | windows really needs better liscensing for virtual os installations something that lets you run 1 extra copy as a guest os, i dont want to buy a copy of windows for my vm's |
| 23:46.39 | Stan__ | hm is CowTip for Rock final? |
| 23:47.15 | ckknight | final how? |
| 23:47.18 | ckknight | nothing's ever final |
| 23:47.25 | ckknight | there's always more to do |
| 23:47.31 | ckknight | granted, the CowTip Rock branch works |
| 23:47.38 | ckknight | which is all you can really expect |
| 23:47.52 | Stan__ | hm |
| 23:47.59 | Stan__ | the last time I tested it, it didn't |
| 23:48.02 | ckknight | oh |
| 23:48.04 | ckknight | I fixed it |
| 23:48.11 | ckknight | thanks to orionshock mostly |
| 23:49.16 | Stan__ | hmm |
| 23:49.20 | Stan__ | is there a zip? |
| 23:50.33 | ckknight | sadly, no |
| 23:50.43 | ckknight | you'll have to use SVN software to get it for now |
| 23:51.00 | ckknight | sylvanaar, I replied to that thread |
| 23:51.41 | Stan__ | mm :/ |
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| 23:52.31 | Stan__ | ckknight: can't u zip it on your pc? :P |
| 23:52.33 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 23:52.37 | CC--home | whats other dps meters besides violation/recount? |
| 23:52.59 | ckknight | Stan__, bah |
| 23:53.02 | Stan__ | ^^ |
| 23:53.17 | Xinhuan | CC--home: Recap, Damage Meters, SWStats |
| 23:53.37 | Awaa | CC--home, Recount |
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| 23:53.54 | ckknight | Stan__, hang on... |
| 23:54.08 | Stan__ | :) thx |
| 23:54.13 | hypetech | just redid my UI :) let me know what you think http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/newUI.png |
| 23:55.05 | Stan__ | looking good |
| 23:55.11 | ckknight | svn.wowace.com doesn't work for me, bah |
| 23:55.19 | ckknight | I get a 301 moved permanently |
| 23:55.46 | Eggi | to many buttons imo hypetech.. maybe bind some spells without showing the buttons |
| 23:56.09 | NightHawkTheSane | hypetech: what's with the huge blackspace at the bottom? |
| 23:56.24 | CC--home | recount runs sooo damn heavy hehe |
| 23:56.29 | CC--home | im using violation now |
| 23:56.33 | hypetech | NightHawkTheSane: it's for chat,grid, omen, recount, and battlechat |
| 23:56.38 | CC--home | only problem is i can't see the "death log" of ppl |
| 23:56.43 | hypetech | it fills up in a full raid |
| 23:57.03 | NightHawkTheSane | hypetech: ahh, okay, i just saw a huge empty area, and was a bit confused |
| 23:57.03 | Mikk | CC--home: expiration tracks that no? |
| 23:57.14 | CC--home | oh |
| 23:57.36 | hypetech | hehe |
| 23:58.53 | hypetech | I'm working on cutting down the buttons, I even make a bunch of macros with modifiers so I didn't have as many. I just don't like stuff I use not being onscreen just in case I need to click in a pinch |
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| 23:59.12 | sylvanaar | what class do you play Eggi |
| 23:59.51 | alb` | anyone running Vista? |
| 23:59.52 | Eggi | priest |
