| 00:00.12 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r47726 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua: ClosetGnome_OhNoes - update koKR locals |
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| 00:00.35 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r47727 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_ZoneLocale-koKR.lua: ClosetGnome_Zone - update koKR locals |
| 00:00.42 | NimbleRabit | Hmm |
| 00:00.46 | NimbleRabit | every time I restart my comp and start WAU |
| 00:00.48 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r47728 10FuBar_GarbageFu/GarbageFuLocale-koKR.lua: FuBar_GarbageFu: update koKR locals |
| 00:00.49 | NimbleRabit | it says it's out of date |
| 00:00.51 | NimbleRabit | and I have to reinstall |
| 00:01.18 | Funkeh` | Maybe you need to update the koKR locals |
| 00:01.22 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r47729 10NextStep/NextStep.lua: NextStep: fix miss type.. sorry.. |
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| 00:04.37 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit are you german? |
| 00:04.54 | sb | mhhmhmm |
| 00:04.59 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: No |
| 00:04.59 | sb | <3 lurker priest trinket |
| 00:05.03 | NimbleRabit | my bad though, I figured it out |
| 00:05.25 | Killmore | 7800 errors with decursive in about 10min w00t ! |
| 00:05.34 | Killmore | all the 4 sames |
| 00:05.34 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit i just pushed 601 and 602 to test the update process though |
| 00:05.40 | *** part/#wowace Keya (n=patrick@xdsl-213-196-242-97.netcologne.de) |
| 00:06.05 | NimbleRabit | Well I put the update into the same location as the old version |
| 00:06.15 | NimbleRabit | and I didn't realize I was supposed to be using a new file to run it |
| 00:06.25 | sylvanaar | NimbleRabit oh yeah, use the start menu |
| 00:06.44 | NimbleRabit | oooh it's in the start menu, neato |
| 00:06.58 | NimbleRabit | Yeah so sorry about that, I was confused I guess |
| 00:07.38 | kergoth | Antiarc, shadowfiend with 996.001% of the threat with no target after a fight.. |
| 00:07.45 | Killmore | 3 errors per sec! |
| 00:07.55 | Antiarc | Bleh. I thought I got that one |
| 00:07.57 | Antiarc | I'll fix it |
| 00:08.10 | sylvanaar | its ok - im just making sure you arent one of the ppl who have unsolved update issues |
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| 00:12.46 | art3mis | what was the page for dart/duff? |
| 00:12.46 | kergoth | Antiarc, ignore me, i wasnt on latest trunk :P |
| 00:13.03 | NimbleRabit | dart! |
| 00:13.05 | Funkeh` | kergoth: It can bug if someone else in your raid has an old version also |
| 00:13.20 | art3mis | im bored so im gonna make a hello kitty ui ;P |
| 00:13.22 | Funkeh` | But by the sounds of it you were solo. ;p |
| 00:13.24 | Antiarc | The latest trunk should do a clean-up after a fight ends |
| 00:13.36 | NimbleRabit | art3mis: you can find the working dart/duff on the discord forums |
| 00:13.50 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: Depends how old they are to even recognise the cleanup |
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| 00:29.28 | SaladFork | /cheer for Horde dominating BGs |
| 00:29.29 | art3mis | NimbleRabit: didnt he drop the project completely? |
| 00:32.23 | ckknight | he did. |
| 00:32.35 | sb | mhmhmhm 3500 mana / 5s with innervate ;p |
| 00:32.42 | sb | <3 |
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| 00:34.24 | Amadeo | I have that without innervate |
| 00:34.27 | xing_ | hello |
| 00:34.49 | xing_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.00 | sb | Amadeo: yes? :p |
| 00:35.17 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:35.20 | *** part/#wowace Gnarfoz (i=smallbra@unaffiliated/gnarfoz) |
| 00:35.44 | Mecdemort | anyone know where blizzard stores it's /print function or is it an addon i have? |
| 00:36.09 | ckknight | oh, that'd be me, Mecdemort |
| 00:36.13 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:36.17 | Mecdemort | <3 |
| 00:36.24 | ckknight | it's either AceConsole-2.0 or LibJokerConsole-1.0 |
| 00:36.25 | sb | ckknight is an addon Mecdemort has? |
| 00:36.33 | Mecdemort | and i keep him in my pocket |
| 00:36.37 | sb | oh mh |
| 00:36.39 | ckknight | it's warm |
| 00:36.47 | sb | no details :/ |
| 00:37.46 | the-golem | ckknight: where can i find layouts for Prat? |
| 00:38.28 | ckknight | dunno |
| 00:38.41 | ckknight | Prat's not mine |
| 00:39.47 | NightHawkTheSane | he probably meant pitbull |
| 00:40.31 | NeoTron | !c us Kilrogg Aminai |
| 00:40.35 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: Aminai, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/40/21). 9970 HP; 6252 Mana; 123 mana regen; 62 spell crit; 65 spell hit; 392 +spell dmg/heal; 4.36% dodge; 8 resilience; 414 arcane resist; 18 fire resist;[[ TBR: 1545 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2h7sf9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jtd3c ][ Updated: Wed Aug 29 20:50:19 2007 ]] |
| 00:40.42 | NeoTron | remind me not to log out in AR gear |
| 00:40.47 | NeoTron | although it's quite humerous |
| 00:40.56 | NightHawkTheSane | why does it matter? |
| 00:40.59 | Amadeo | Everytime I play with openSUSE, I can't believe how sexy it is |
| 00:41.16 | the-golem | ckknight: er, i meant PitBull, my bad |
| 00:41.59 | Amadeo | the-golem: There are some on the wowace forums if you search for pitbull layout |
| 00:42.25 | Amadeo | I don't think they will save though |
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| 00:44.45 | Salad`Afk | .nick Salad`Afk |
| 00:45.09 | NeoTron | http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product%5Fid=647156 |
| 00:45.10 | NeoTron | lol |
| 00:45.14 | NeoTron | read the product description |
| 00:49.36 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: awesome. |
| 00:51.13 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r47730 10GemList/locales/ (locale-enUS.lua locale-koKR.lua): |
| 00:51.14 | CIA-14 | GemList: |
| 00:51.14 | CIA-14 | - update koKR locals |
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| 00:56.32 | CIA-14 | 03samuelcup * r47731 10beql/locales/localization-cn.lua: beql: - zhCN updated |
| 00:58.28 | CIA-14 | 03mitchell * r47732 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: |
| 00:58.28 | CIA-14 | RangeCheck-1.0: |
| 00:58.28 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.28 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.28 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.30 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.32 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:06.43 | dreamss2 | RangeCheck is a lib? |
| 01:07.07 | Stan__ | yo |
| 01:07.16 | mitch1 | yep |
| 01:07.59 | CIA-14 | 03mitchell 07ShowMaxRangeOnly * r47733 10RangeDisplay/ (8 files): RangeDisplay: fixed drycode errors, added localization stubs for maxRangeOnly config option |
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| 01:08.24 | mitch1 | dreamss: RangeDisplay is one of its guis. it's also used by Pitbull/Cowtip (via [Range] dogtag) and it popped up in the latest zRangeCheck as far as I saw |
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| 01:12.37 | xyu | quick question, someone might know, are kara bosses considered lvl 73? |
| 01:12.49 | mitch1 | yes |
| 01:12.56 | xyu | kthx |
| 01:12.57 | NightHawkTheSane | any mob flagged with a boss flag is |
| 01:13.02 | xyu | oh? |
| 01:13.06 | xyu | so even mobs in like AQ20? |
| 01:13.10 | xyu | er boss |
| 01:13.12 | mitch1 | yes |
| 01:13.14 | xyu | oki |
| 01:15.30 | Funkeh` | No |
| 01:15.44 | Funkeh` | They are considered 3 levels above the highest level player in the instance |
| 01:16.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: well, if we're going to pick nits.. they actually have their own normal level for things like damage range, etc, but for certain apsects (crush rate, glancing, resists..) are considered player level +3, and it's obviously different for each player, i believe. |
| 01:16.45 | Funkeh` | Indeed |
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| 01:21.07 | Mecdemort | how do i know if a function call will be considered tail recursion? or whatever it is that is more efficient |
| 01:22.10 | JoshBorke | return stuff |
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| 01:24.15 | mitch1 | laterz |
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| 01:25.00 | Funkeh` | http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6660/detailjl5.jpg what sucks most? |
| 01:25.18 | JoshBorke | the textures on the bars |
| 01:25.31 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 01:25.43 | Mecdemort | its got a pyramid affect of business in the center |
| 01:25.47 | Funkeh` | Recommend one already. :) |
| 01:25.52 | JoshBorke | Charcoal |
| 01:25.59 | Mecdemort | <3 charcoal |
| 01:28.08 | Mecdemort | how do people get by with so few buttons |
| 01:28.29 | JoshBorke | i have fewer buttons than that |
| 01:28.40 | JoshBorke | all my heals are on clicks |
| 01:28.47 | JoshBorke | and i only need 6 buttons for damage spells |
| 01:29.12 | Mecdemort | i have 84 buttons, and 15 or so are macros with right/left click |
| 01:29.24 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: you're not doing enough damage |
| 01:29.53 | Funkeh` | My gear sucks :) |
| 01:30.12 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: you're a NE priest? |
| 01:30.13 | Funkeh` | charcoal is nice |
| 01:30.15 | JoshBorke | or human? |
| 01:30.20 | JoshBorke | human it must be |
| 01:30.25 | Funkeh` | dwarf |
| 01:30.28 | JoshBorke | wait, no, there's the fear ward |
| 01:30.39 | JoshBorke | well, regardless, i recommend a cooldown mod to you |
| 01:30.59 | Funkeh` | Whats wrong with omniCC? |
| 01:31.08 | JoshBorke | only keeps track of buttons |
| 01:31.53 | Tuller | litestep (the texture) makes me cry |
| 01:32.03 | JoshBorke | but your overall layout looks fine, if it works for you then use it |
| 01:32.10 | JoshBorke | Tuller: qft. i recommended charcoal |
| 01:32.24 | NightHawkTheSane | i like the simple textures, myself |
| 01:32.26 | Stan__ | smoothv2 |
| 01:32.34 | NightHawkTheSane | smooth, minimalist, etc |
| 01:32.56 | JoshBorke | i like charcoal because it's a very slightly textured texture |
| 01:33.04 | JoshBorke | just enough to let you know it's not smooth |
| 01:33.23 | Funkeh` | Yeah I'm liking charcoal |
| 01:33.25 | Funkeh` | swapping now |
| 01:34.10 | kergoth | i like glaze v2 |
| 01:34.15 | Amadeo | Banto! |
| 01:34.26 | Amadeo | it's just a little dark |
| 01:36.12 | Stan__ | my raid UI http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/294/wowscrnshot082707230845cy0.jpg |
| 01:36.43 | kergoth | http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/currentui-20070815-inraid.png.html is mine on my rogue, though i've switched to glaze v2 since then |
| 01:36.52 | Amadeo | Schattennova! |
| 01:37.24 | Stan__ | ^^ |
| 01:37.32 | kergoth | Stan__, that assessment on the left? |
| 01:37.37 | kergoth | or.. |
| 01:37.42 | Stan__ | yeah |
| 01:37.45 | Stan__ | and omen above |
| 01:37.46 | kergoth | cool |
| 01:38.17 | Amadeo | damn kergoth, your UI is confusing :) |
| 01:38.24 | Funkeh` | I just need violation transparency and recolouring to work now |
| 01:38.25 | JoshBorke | i can't see shit in the SS |
| 01:38.32 | kergoth | hehe, i have a lot near the middle cause of my crappy eyes |
| 01:38.40 | kergoth | i think i've dropped pmutilate too, so thats not there anymore |
| 01:38.44 | JoshBorke | clock is hidden in combat |
| 01:38.49 | Amadeo | do you still work on kEnergy? |
| 01:39.05 | Funkeh` | JoshBorke: What other cooldowns were you suggesting for timing? |
| 01:39.11 | kergoth | not really, havent messed with it in a while.. i'd like to rewrite it, the code is kinda confusing atm |
| 01:39.14 | JoshBorke | i use cooldown on the ace svn |
| 01:39.24 | JoshBorke | but now that i think about it, you don't raelly need it |
| 01:39.25 | JoshBorke | i just like it |
| 01:39.37 | Amadeo | kergoth: gotcha, I was looking for an energy addon and I didn't see yours :) |
| 01:39.47 | Funkeh` | Fucking hell charcoal is so much better |
| 01:39.55 | JoshBorke | kergoth: wtf are those icon things at the top? |
| 01:40.46 | JoshBorke | and why are you fighting the crowd? |
| 01:40.51 | kergoth | Amadeo, its still on wowi and stuff, not in wowace since i'm maintaining it in git |
| 01:41.05 | kergoth | JoshBorke, i was bored, the icons are ocd, haste's little cooldown display |
| 01:41.10 | JoshBorke | ah, ok |
| 01:41.20 | JoshBorke | you and the rest of your raid were bored? lol |
| 01:41.20 | Amadeo | I see |
| 01:42.05 | Amadeo | kergoth: I like your CowTip |
| 01:43.20 | kergoth | stole it from someone, dont remember who, then modified it a lil |
| 01:43.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:43.34 | Stan__ | http://www.winfuture-forum.de/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=21988 |
| 01:43.43 | Stan__ | kergoth: that's where u stole it from^^ |
| 01:43.43 | Amadeo | Antiarc has a good CowTip |
| 01:44.29 | Stan__ | Amadeo: http://ace.pastey.net/71605 |
| 01:46.27 | Amadeo | That's yours or Antiarc's? |
| 01:46.48 | Stan__ | both^^ |
| 01:46.50 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:46.59 | Amadeo | Schattennova! |
| 01:47.06 | Stan__ | lol |
| 01:52.43 | Salad`Afk | I want to dance with my pants. |
| 01:52.45 | Salad`Afk | Wrong window. |
| 01:52.46 | SaladFork | .back |
| 01:52.52 | SaladFork | .id |
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| 01:53.59 | NightHawkTheSane | SaladFork: you can take your dancing pants elsewhere, thanks |
| 01:54.05 | SaladFork | The pants do not dance |
| 01:54.07 | SaladFork | I dance with said pants |
| 01:54.25 | SaladFork | WTF |
| 01:54.26 | NightHawkTheSane | dancing with them implies that they also dance |
| 01:54.28 | SaladFork | Gold spam inside WSG?! |
| 01:54.30 | Amadeo | Your mom makes my pants dance |
| 01:54.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: your mom dances in my pants. |
| 01:55.02 | Amadeo | Those are some big pants! |
| 01:55.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i know, tell her to diet, ffs. :P |
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| 01:55.36 | Amadeo | She's on a seafood diet...I guess it doesn't work as well when you have to type it |
| 01:55.47 | NightHawkTheSane | no.. not really... |
| 01:56.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i've got ground beef in the fridge that i really ought to use before it goes bad |
| 01:56.25 | NightHawkTheSane | but i really don't want to make food |
| 01:56.40 | JoshBorke | then make hamburger helper |
| 01:56.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't have any |
| 01:57.09 | Amadeo | I hate hamburger helper |
| 01:57.13 | Amadeo | just make hamburgers |
| 01:57.20 | Amadeo | or meatloaf |
| 01:57.32 | JoshBorke | make mystery meat |
| 01:57.33 | Wobwork | ..hamburger helper? |
| 01:57.36 | NightHawkTheSane | but.. as noted.. "i really don't want to make food" |
| 01:57.41 | Amadeo | or have a meat PvP match like the guys at Mythic |
| 01:57.43 | Wobwork | The phrase itself disturbs me |
| 01:57.54 | JoshBorke | Wobwork: you crazy non us people are so deprived |
| 01:57.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: more or less prepackedged noodles and sauce that you mix with browned ground beef and water |
| 01:58.07 | NightHawkTheSane | dehydrated sauce, to be sure |
| 01:58.09 | Wobwork | sounds... |
| 01:58.11 | Amadeo | Yeah, but the sauce is powdered |
| 01:58.13 | Wobwork | tasty? |
| 01:58.18 | Amadeo | It's a stomach buster |
| 01:58.21 | Amadeo | lol |
| 01:58.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: it's not terrible, but it's certainly not fine dining |
| 01:58.40 | kergoth | hambuerger helper isnt bad, gets the job done when you dont feel like cooking |
| 01:58.48 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 01:58.49 | JoshBorke | hell yea it does |
| 01:58.51 | NightHawkTheSane | if i had any i'd make it |
| 01:58.53 | JoshBorke | i use ground turkey though |
| 01:58.54 | NightHawkTheSane | but i don't |
| 01:59.01 | Amadeo | Always ground turkey in that kind of stuff |
| 01:59.01 | JoshBorke | ground beef is way too greasy |
| 01:59.04 | NightHawkTheSane | and if i'm going to go buy some, i may as well just go get take out teryiaki |
| 01:59.07 | Amadeo | you don't taste the difference and it's better for you |
| 01:59.11 | kergoth | they've got a new chicken helper out thats pretty tasty |
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| 01:59.23 | JoshBorke | yea, i'm not so good with the chicken helper |
| 01:59.28 | JoshBorke | cutting up the chicken is a pita |
| 01:59.38 | Amadeo | lol |
| 01:59.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i've actually been making a lot of tacos lately, but i'm kinda over taht |
| 01:59.47 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: seriously >< |
| 02:00.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:00.03 | JoshBorke | i like to cut the chicken while it's still frozen |
| 02:00.05 | JoshBorke | it's so much easier |
| 02:00.08 | Amadeo | sharp knife and a poultry cutting board make cutting it pretty easy |
| 02:00.20 | JoshBorke | yea, i'm not allowed to use sharp knives anymore |
| 02:00.22 | kergoth | i've got a cheap plastic cutting board, should probably get something better and bigger |
| 02:00.22 | Amadeo | but you have to get down and dirty :P |
| 02:00.24 | JoshBorke | i had a bad incident last year |
| 02:00.24 | kergoth | hahah |
| 02:00.30 | kergoth | i love knives, i collect them |
| 02:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: o_0 |
| 02:00.40 | Amadeo | kergoth: I just mean one that you dedicate to poultry, hehe |
| 02:00.40 | NightHawkTheSane | bamboo cutting boards are the win. |
| 02:00.44 | JoshBorke | i cut my finger just below the knuckle |
| 02:01.07 | SaladFork | /cheer for Horde dominating BGs |
| 02:01.11 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: deep, i assume? :\ |
| 02:01.12 | Amadeo | JoshBorke: off? |
| 02:01.31 | JoshBorke | i think i got close to the bone, i was too shy to look deep into teh cut at the hospital |
| 02:01.39 | kergoth | yikes |
| 02:01.40 | JoshBorke | just 5 stitches |
| 02:01.40 | kergoth | thats no good |
| 02:01.43 | JoshBorke | wait, i have pictures |
| 02:01.50 | Amadeo | how did you do it? |
| 02:02.00 | NightHawkTheSane | no no.. no need for pictures, really |
| 02:02.05 | kergoth | dont think i've ever had stitches.. or any broken bones, other than a toe i broke when i stubbed it on the coffee table running to the phone |
| 02:02.12 | kergoth | i dont run for the phone anymore |
| 02:02.21 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 02:02.22 | JoshBorke | http://gallery.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/main.php?g2_itemId=754 |
| 02:02.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i've never had stitches or broken bones, or sprains.. |
| 02:02.44 | Amadeo | only broken bone I've ever had was a stress fracture in my spine :P |
| 02:02.47 | JoshBorke | i've never broken a bone, had lots of stitches though |
| 02:03.12 | Kaydeethree | meh, I've broken a wrist and a collarbone |
| 02:03.15 | JoshBorke | well, lots is less than 50 |
| 02:03.20 | NightHawkTheSane | worst things i've done is decently deep but not stiches-requiring cuts on my fingers, and a nice gash on my eyebrow from when i was like 8 and jumped off a chair.. into a table. |
| 02:03.26 | JoshBorke | do stitches from surgery count? |
| 02:03.50 | Stan__ | I broke my little toe while training judo -.- |
| 02:03.59 | NightHawkTheSane | never had surgery either.. |
| 02:04.01 | JoshBorke | your little toe? that must have been a bitch |
| 02:04.10 | Stan__ | yeah |
| 02:04.32 | Stan__ | it was stuck between those mattresses on the flor |
| 02:04.34 | Stan__ | *o |
| 02:04.38 | JoshBorke | ooo |
| 02:04.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ouch |
| 02:04.49 | Stan__ | and I stood up and turned around in the same move |
| 02:04.54 | Stan__ | baaam |
| 02:05.11 | JoshBorke | so you weren't even training |
| 02:05.21 | JoshBorke | you were just standing up |
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| 02:05.37 | Stan__ | after being thrown down, yes |
| 02:06.29 | kebinusan | Hmm, I hate hydross |
| 02:07.54 | Stan__ | Halo 3 for Xbox 360 has gone Gold! weeeeee! |
| 02:07.56 | Stan__ | I love that game |
| 02:10.33 | kebinusan | tank at 483 defense in 375 resist gear got crit at 100% with no resist for 21k |
| 02:11.42 | SaladFork | What class? |
| 02:18.35 | NightHawkTheSane | "Are you saying Colonel O'Neill has somehow regressed over thirty years overnight?" "Stranger things have happened." "Name but one." "Well, there was the time he got really old, the time he became a caveman,the time we all spawned bugs.." |
| 02:19.13 | Funkeh` | ffs |
| 02:19.33 | Funkeh` | you have overtaken me NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:19.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: you must watch more! |
| 02:19.47 | Funkeh` | I know :9 |
| 02:19.50 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 02:20.46 | kebinusan | Warrior sadly |
| 02:21.00 | SaladFork | Kebi - I'm pretty sure 483 isn't enough for crit immunity |
| 02:21.01 | SaladFork | For a warrior |
| 02:21.12 | kebinusan | yeah its not |
| 02:21.17 | kebinusan | its just extremely unlucky |
| 02:21.19 | SaladFork | =P |
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| 02:32.43 | SaladFork | Anyone know if TrackingInfo or TrackerAssist are any good? |
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| 02:35.39 | NightHawkTheSane | "Now, admittedly all this does sound familiar, cliché even, if you watch too much tv..." hehe, meta humor rocks. |
| 02:38.15 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47734 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Gurtogg.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Gurtogg: approximate rage phase |
| 02:38.46 | Funkeh` | Your mom rocks also! |
| 02:39.02 | NightHawkTheSane | she does. |
| 02:40.07 | SaladFork | Scratch my last |
| 02:40.10 | SaladFork | TrackingInfo is a godsend |
| 02:40.31 | kergoth | TrackingInfo? |
| 02:40.49 | SaladFork | Yep |
| 02:41.17 | SaladFork | http://files.wowace.com/TrackingInfo/ |
| 02:41.20 | SaladFork | "Keeps a database of players or uses the BG roster info to add information to tracking tooltips" |
| 02:41.38 | kergoth | ah, neat |
| 02:41.38 | SaladFork | works 100% |
| 02:45.42 | SaladFork | <3 |
| 02:46.21 | zeeg | ckknight, http://wow.curse.com/database/search/?q=fire&di=&dq=&dc=&ds= |
| 02:46.24 | zeeg | 8 hours of work :p |
| 02:46.32 | zeeg | but its a framework, not just the search grids |
| 02:46.41 | ckknight | k |
| 02:47.41 | zeeg | vanguards probably a better exmaple, but oh well |
| 02:47.42 | ckknight | sorting doesn't work right |
| 02:47.45 | zeeg | we may throw these up on the downloads |
| 02:47.45 | zeeg | ya |
| 02:47.46 | ckknight | for quests, at least |
| 02:47.49 | zeeg | im gonna look into it tomorrow |
| 02:47.53 | zeeg | it doesnt want to sort on the values correctly |
| 02:47.55 | zeeg | couldnt figure it out earlier |
| 02:48.03 | zeeg | i have tooltips done too but they have to be pregenerated |
| 02:48.12 | ckknight | and the rolldown menu above it is kinda funky |
| 02:48.26 | ckknight | like, as I move between the buttons, it shows two menus at once |
| 02:48.57 | zeeg | hrm odd |
| 02:50.00 | TNSe | ckknight, any chance you can split hot/dots and make some kind of hack for VE :P |
| 02:50.08 | ckknight | you do it |
| 02:50.10 | ckknight | I'm busy |
| 02:50.11 | ckknight | and tired |
| 02:50.23 | TNSe | lol |
| 02:50.38 | TNSe | VE is weird, as you healing others is outgoing, and others healing you or you healing yourself is incoming |
| 02:51.17 | ckknight | all heals are like that |
| 02:51.37 | TNSe | yeah, but the spam from VE is obscene :P |
| 02:51.47 | Wobwork | It's pretty |
| 02:51.57 | Wobwork | and comforting to know I don't have to use aspect of the viper |
| 02:52.00 | TNSe | heh |
| 02:52.13 | RaydenUni | model viewer? |
| 02:52.17 | RaydenUni | blizzard released such a thing? |
| 02:52.30 | Wobwork | I just have to remember to try and keep Ferocious Inspiration up and gain 3% more mana =) |
| 02:52.39 | TNSe | trying to figure a combination of settings where I can see how much I healed but without the spam |
| 02:52.39 | SaladFork | Rayden - Wow Model Viewer |
| 02:52.42 | SaladFork | Google it |
| 02:52.51 | SaladFork | TNSe - VE? |
| 02:52.54 | TNSe | yeah |
| 02:53.01 | SaladFork | ~VE |
| 02:53.09 | Wobwork | Vampiric Embrace |
| 02:53.13 | SaladFork | ahh |
| 02:53.17 | TNSe | shadowprieststuff |
| 02:53.40 | Wobwork | of course, I kinda meant VT |
| 02:53.40 | RaydenUni | who is talking shadow stuff? :P |
| 02:53.57 | Wobwork | since if I'm taking damage, I'm doing it wrong =P |
| 02:54.02 | TNSe | heh |
| 02:54.12 | TNSe | I had some fps issues on lurker below |
| 02:54.15 | TNSe | to put it mild. |
| 02:54.30 | ckknight | dude, use suppressions or filtering |
| 02:54.30 | RaydenUni | oh talking about VT for a dps meter or something? |
| 02:54.57 | TNSe | suppressions don't work entirely, they need some special settings for hot/dots and heals with VE |
| 02:55.03 | TNSe | and filtering removes it |
| 02:55.25 | Wobwork | for scrolling combat text |
| 02:55.29 | Wobwork | (in general) |
| 02:58.13 | Wobwork | how does weapon skill translate into +hit? |
| 02:58.22 | TNSe | 0.12 hit pr level |
| 02:58.27 | TNSe | against mobs higher level than you |
| 02:58.43 | Wobwork | so a weapon that offers +19 to mace skill... |
| 02:58.48 | TNSe | rating? |
| 02:58.49 | TNSe | or skill |
| 02:58.52 | Wobwork | rating |
| 02:58.57 | TNSe | you gotta convert the rating to pure skill points first |
| 02:58.58 | Wobwork | hm, what's the difference? |
| 02:59.06 | Wobwork | confusing =( |
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| 02:59.10 | TNSe | rating gives diminishing returns when you level up |
| 02:59.44 | TNSe | all stats diminish as you level up |
| 02:59.49 | TNSe | thats why you need more and more of them |
| 02:59.54 | TNSe | ratings also diminish |
| 03:00.08 | TNSe | originally items didnt have ratings |
| 03:00.19 | TNSe | gave some really weird results on itemization |
| 03:00.28 | NightHawkTheSane | "You're SURE about this? I mean.. it's High School!" |
| 03:00.35 | TNSe | which got unbearable before TBC, so they had to ditch it and add ratings. |
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| 03:01.32 | NightHawkTheSane | yay for item creep |
| 03:01.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ! |
| 03:02.07 | NightHawkTheSane | also,yayfor salad. i love salad. |
| 03:03.38 | Funkeh` | depends |
| 03:03.42 | Funkeh` | whats in your salad |
| 03:03.53 | NightHawkTheSane | lettuce, carrot, onion, and dressing |
| 03:04.25 | Funkeh` | mm |
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| 03:06.41 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47735 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: Warn when weapons die |
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| 03:15.41 | Funkeh` | 30 seconds to mars <3 |
| 03:17.14 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
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| 03:18.29 | Funkeh` | band |
| 03:18.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
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| 03:22.45 | Funkeh` | http://www.thirtysecondstomars.com/video_players/attack_win.html |
| 03:23.28 | kergoth | whats a good profiling addon? |
| 03:25.27 | SaladFork | Kergoth - Profiling? |
| 03:26.35 | kergoth | aye, for determining time and memory spent in function calls. |
| 03:27.29 | Funkeh` | PerformanceFu? |
| 03:27.34 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 03:27.37 | Funkeh` | Expo? |
| 03:28.55 | kergoth | expo, will try that |
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| 03:42.42 | CIA-14 | 03eternally777 * r47736 10DrugTest/ (Core.lua DrugTest.toc Libs/ RaidTable.lua embeds.xml): |
| 03:42.42 | CIA-14 | DrugTest: |
| 03:42.42 | CIA-14 | * Drastic scanner changes. |
| 03:42.42 | CIA-14 | * Rediculously less efficient than the finished product will be. |
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| 03:45.33 | SaladFork | Ridiculously* |
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| 03:47.33 | Jagobah | drugtest! |
| 03:48.33 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47737 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add keybinding support. |
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| 03:49.18 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47738 10Joker/JokerTest/JokerTest.lua: JokerTest - add keybinding test |
| 03:49.45 | ckknight | woo, LibJokerConfig-1.0 finally has that |
| 03:50.27 | ckknight | which means it has all the data types, finally |
| 03:50.32 | ckknight | well, that I currently care about |
| 03:55.47 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47739 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add "Keybinding: " to the start of keybindings, so things are more obvious. |
| 04:02.37 | Ironhand | my WAU says my Grid version is at 46411, while bringing up the in-game "About" screen says it's 42967... was the version number simply not updated in the code or is something else going wrong? |
| 04:03.28 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 04:30.03 | Wobwork | ckknight: hey you about? |
| 04:30.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:30.36 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 04:32.22 | Wobwork | Can you roll out the latest version of Cart to the addon sites? |
| 04:32.33 | Wobwork | There's Lightheaded support added into the Waypoints |
| 04:32.45 | ckknight | I was gonna wait till 2.2, which should be soon |
| 04:32.54 | Wobwork | ah, k |
| 04:33.05 | ckknight | also, addon sites are lame, takes too long to push to them |
| 04:33.10 | ckknight | that's why I don't do it often |
| 04:34.14 | Xinhuan | somehow, i think it would be this coming tues |
| 04:34.19 | Xinhuan | won't i mean |
| 04:34.26 | Xinhuan | because yesterday was the 6 hour maintenance |
| 04:34.38 | Xinhuan | so this coming tuesday would be just rolling restarts T_T |
| 04:34.45 | ckknight | not necessarily |
| 04:34.56 | Xinhuan | yah, but its just a guess |
| 04:35.19 | Wobwork | I have the feeling they've covered what they need in the ptr |
| 04:35.39 | Xinhuan | i don't know if they have - the last ptr patch screwed up on vista? |
| 04:36.02 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 04:36.03 | Wobwork | no loss =) |
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| 04:50.22 | Mecdemort | is there a simpler way to do: newname = type(k) == 'string' and name..format("[%q]",k) or type(k) == 'number' and name..format("[%d]",k) |
| 04:51.09 | Wobwork | >< |
| 04:51.18 | Wobwork | how about breaking that into more than one line? |
| 04:51.29 | Shadowed | what wob said |
| 04:51.52 | Wobwork | cause you don't want to make it 'simpler' you want to make it 'readable' |
| 04:51.58 | Shadowed | well that is readable |
| 04:52.07 | Wobwork | if you're into cryptography |
| 04:52.07 | Shadowed | you want it to be readable without spending 20 minutes deciphering it =p |
| 04:52.09 | Mecdemort | naw screw readable, i can read it |
| 04:52.18 | Wobwork | Then you don't need our help =) |
| 04:52.19 | NightHawkTheSane | sure, now. |
| 04:52.21 | Shadowed | if you're coding so it's only readable to you, then you have other issues |
| 04:52.32 | Shadowed | (and thats assuming you wont take a break, come back a day later and go "what the fuck was I thinking") |
| 04:52.36 | NightHawkTheSane | a month or two down the line you're going to look at that and say "What in the name of nine hells does that DO?" |
| 04:52.37 | Wobwork | Cause you will |
| 04:52.54 | Xinhuan | i assume that newname will end up with either the value true, false or nil |
| 04:52.55 | Wobwork | You'll then spend 15 minutes tracing out the side effects |
| 04:53.19 | Mecdemort | as long as you understand var = test and val or test and val, that line shouldnt be hard no matter how long before you've seen it again |
| 04:53.50 | Wobwork | You're being unecessarily complex about the issue |
| 04:54.28 | Wobwork | The fact that you have to read that line more than once to understand how the logic splits up, makes it unneccessary |
| 04:54.34 | Mecdemort | i know, is there a format option that does %q to a string and %d to a decimal? |
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| 04:55.33 | abug | wtb lua to neuron converter |
| 04:56.14 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, what happens if k isn't a string or number? |
| 04:56.37 | Mecdemort | ya ya ya, i already split it up into an if elseif |
| 05:07.45 | kadrahil | vithos: thinkin about trading 26 ap for 15 agi on my gloves |
| 05:08.07 | kadrahil | is 600 agi the minimum for survival? |
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| 05:13.17 | yssaril | ckknight: does jokercomm use the same serialization as AceComm? |
| 05:14.24 | yssaril | for tables i mean |
| 05:36.18 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47740 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_Comm.lua YssGuildShop.toc): |
| 05:36.18 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 05:36.18 | CIA-14 | - fixed nil error |
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| 05:39.24 | RaydenUnicyclist | did some mod that was having performance issues get updated recently to be a lot faster? |
| 05:39.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | wow seems to be performing much better than it did last time i played |
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| 05:41.02 | RaydenUnicyclist | i take that back |
| 05:41.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | its running like crap now that i'm in shatt |
| 05:41.41 | ulic | outlands is always worse than Azeroth, from my experience. |
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| 05:47.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | it has higher system specs |
| 05:47.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | that's no secret |
| 05:47.42 | Xinhuan | hmm i wonder if pairs() or ipairs() is faster for a numerically indexed table |
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| 05:48.05 | rawrrawr | heya |
| 05:48.30 | rawrrawr | just wanted to see, anyone having issues with the latest release of Omen(threat)? |
| 05:53.34 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47741 10YssGuildShop/YGS_Comm.lua: |
| 05:53.34 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 05:53.34 | CIA-14 | - removed debug dumps oops :P |
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| 05:54.21 | sag_ich_nicht | rawrrawr yes. IT'S NOT DISPLAYING MY FUCKING THREAT AFTER ZONING ANTIARC FIX IT ALREADY D: |
| 05:54.28 | sag_ich_nicht | and that's not only with the latest version |
| 05:54.29 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 05:55.08 | rawrrawr | yeah, i've reset my freaking UI like 3 times trying to fix it |
| 05:55.15 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Antiarc |
| 05:55.15 | purl | ACTION runs at Antiarc with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 05:59.04 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r47742 10TableInspector/Core.lua: TableInspector: - Tables open in same window unless ctrl is pressed. Added "..Parent Table.." to return window to the previous table. Note: tables with keys other than strings or numbers will not be accessible. |
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| 06:00.47 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 06:01.28 | ckknight | Mecdemort: newname = type(k) == "string" and ("%q"):format(k) or tostring(k) |
| 06:03.21 | ulic | must be a Omen issue, haven't had any issues with Assessment. |
| 06:03.27 | Mecdemort | that's clearer but i ended up just using if elseif cuz i had to add other checks anyway |
| 06:04.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ulic: it is |
| 06:04.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ulic: because threat-1.0 broadcasts it's threat still |
| 06:05.54 | rawrrawr | Even with all my mods out Omen is only updating after I leave combat |
| 06:05.57 | rawrrawr | and its sketchy |
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| 06:07.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i even deleted the whole SVs for omen already once to see if it's some options corruption causing it, but it's not |
| 06:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc really needs to fix this |
| 06:07.40 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a PITA to /reloadui for 45 seconds each time i get into an instance, and makes the groups pissed off, especially after a wipe |
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| 06:07.49 | Mecdemort | I should have made this addon a long time ago, makes checking out tables a lot easier than trying to print one |
| 06:08.08 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 06:08.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Mecdemort but your addon is completely redundant! |
| 06:08.21 | TNSe | 45 seconds!?!?!?!?!?!??!!? |
| 06:08.30 | sag_ich_nicht | TNSe 400+ addons. |
| 06:08.40 | TNSe | 400+ addons of DOOM?!!? |
| 06:08.45 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 06:08.48 | sag_ich_nicht | no, just big SV files. |
| 06:08.51 | Mecdemort | sag_ich_nicht: maybe, but it's how i learned to use tablet for another addon ;p |
| 06:08.55 | TNSe | holy poop. |
| 06:09.05 | Xinhuan | how much UI ram do you use |
| 06:09.07 | sag_ich_nicht | no Mecdemort my point is |
| 06:09.12 | sag_ich_nicht | like 150 MB |
| 06:09.24 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not leaking tho |
| 06:09.26 | sag_ich_nicht | (mostly) |
| 06:11.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Mecdemort my point is: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5435-Fire.html |
| 06:12.17 | Mecdemort | meh |
| 06:12.32 | sag_ich_nicht | and that addon is ASS OLD |
| 06:12.41 | Mecdemort | like i said, learning tablet :D |
| 06:12.41 | sag_ich_nicht | (latest version not found on wowi tho, but at http://www.cosmosui.org/files/addons/Fire.zip ) |
| 06:13.16 | Xinhuan | alexyoshi heh |
| 06:13.18 | Xinhuan | i know that guy |
| 06:13.29 | Xinhuan | he was (is) in my guild |
| 06:13.48 | sag_ich_nicht | shame he stopped development D: |
| 06:13.56 | Xinhuan | that's cos he joined blizzard |
| 06:14.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan i know |
| 06:16.37 | TNSe | kumusta. |
| 06:17.41 | sag_ich_nicht | shouldn't stop him tho(he some of the times still shows up in the cosmos forums :O) :P |
| 06:17.57 | Xinhuan | the last time he logged on... let me check lol |
| 06:18.03 | TNSe | man |
| 06:18.10 | TNSe | they really need to allow gnome paladins |
| 06:18.15 | ckknight | ...no |
| 06:18.17 | TNSe | I believe it might bring some players back to the game |
| 06:18.17 | the-golem | lol Tain |
| 06:18.17 | ckknight | why would they? |
| 06:18.23 | the-golem | er |
| 06:18.24 | Xinhuan | the last time he logged on was 2 months ago, on my guild list :D |
| 06:18.34 | the-golem | TNSe* |
| 06:18.41 | TNSe | why gnome paladins? |
| 06:18.52 | TNSe | for consecration dps in battlegrounds |
| 06:19.00 | TNSe | you can't find them but you KNOW there is a pally there somewhere |
| 06:19.10 | the-golem | haha |
| 06:19.12 | TNSe | and it BURNS |
| 06:19.13 | ckknight | why are gnomes special? |
| 06:19.18 | TNSe | also their /cry emote is godlike |
| 06:19.28 | TNSe | then horde can get troll paladins |
| 06:19.39 | TNSe | or tauren paladins |
| 06:19.45 | TNSe | big gay cows |
| 06:19.48 | TNSe | just what I want to se |
| 06:19.49 | TNSe | e |
| 06:20.03 | TNSe | imagine getting owned by a cow in pink. |
| 06:20.18 | Xinhuan | gnomes in a divine shield bubble would make my day :) |
| 06:20.41 | Wobwork | nah |
| 06:20.42 | kadrahil | ugh |
| 06:20.44 | Wobwork | Tauren rouges |
| 06:20.47 | Wobwork | SNEAK SNEAK SNEAK |
| 06:21.00 | kadrahil | will GM's restore previous professions for you? |
| 06:21.00 | Xinhuan | you can be a gnome rogue, then use orb of deception! |
| 06:21.14 | Wobwork | Then I'd have to be a gnome rogue |
| 06:21.38 | Xinhuan | restore? don't think so |
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| 06:22.01 | Wobwork | restore? no |
| 06:22.13 | kadrahil | freaking sucks |
| 06:22.23 | Wobwork | you get plenty of warning, don't you? |
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| 06:22.27 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 06:22.40 | kadrahil | i dumped 356 LW and 375 skinning a month or so ago for JC and mining |
| 06:22.43 | Xinhuan | well unlearning it is a very very small button, with a big YES/NO popup |
| 06:22.44 | kadrahil | JC at 150 and mining at 375 now |
| 06:23.00 | kadrahil | i guess i'm just lazy and need to skill up JC and actually make money with it |
| 06:23.14 | Xinhuan | i don't think they will restore professions even if you got hacked and they unlearnt it for you |
| 06:23.16 | Xinhuan | not sure on that one |
| 06:23.55 | kadrahil | oh well |
| 06:24.02 | kadrahil | i have the wowwiki JC guide :D |
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| 06:24.12 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg |
| 06:27.10 | abug | wow fix the stretching and it'd be awesome |
| 06:27.14 | art3mis | refresh |
| 06:27.17 | art3mis | i corrected that |
| 06:27.50 | art3mis | fergott hat when i resize via set amounts it doesnt do widescreen right |
| 06:28.30 | Xinhuan | upload a new screenshot that is fixed ;p |
| 06:28.59 | art3mis | already did just refresh |
| 06:29.06 | art3mis | thats the exact aspect ratio |
| 06:29.09 | art3mis | just a bit smaller |
| 06:29.20 | art3mis | its really 1650x1040 |
| 06:29.23 | art3mis | err 1050 |
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| 06:29.47 | Xinhuan | hmm its only a background :( |
| 06:29.51 | Xinhuan | could make your whole UI a lot more pinker than that! |
| 06:30.05 | art3mis | yeah i just had to get everything setup |
| 06:30.11 | art3mis | im gonna put ears on the map ;P |
| 06:30.43 | art3mis | and make hello kitty the portait for players and hello bunny for targets |
| 06:30.48 | Xinhuan | i can imagine every round action button with kitty ears |
| 06:31.08 | art3mis | oooo |
| 06:31.10 | art3mis | good call |
| 06:32.34 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:33.29 | art3mis | im gonna work on it a bit more tomorrow |
| 06:33.36 | art3mis | this was a quick get familiar with duf and dart |
| 06:33.47 | art3mis | HK-UI will live! |
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| 06:51.51 | ckknight | sylvanaar: ping |
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| 06:56.11 | Sole | good evening |
| 06:56.39 | the-golem | Pitbull uses shared media, right? |
| 06:58.41 | ckknight | yes |
| 06:59.42 | the-golem | mkay |
| 06:59.56 | the-golem | i just need to find some different bar textures then ^^ |
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| 07:00.24 | ckknight | get the SharedMedia addon |
| 07:00.30 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47743 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - add donation button to options. Some code borrowed from Prat, most from AceAddon-2.0. |
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| 07:01.40 | the-golem | lol, i thought joker didnt exist :P |
| 07:02.08 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:02.10 | ckknight | how come? |
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| 07:04.20 | the-golem | *shrug* |
| 07:04.37 | the-golem | :-( |
| 07:04.47 | the-golem | sharedmedia doesnt include any textures? |
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| 07:06.41 | ckknight | not the library itself |
| 07:06.45 | ckknight | you need the SharedMedia addon |
| 07:07.11 | the-golem | aaaah |
| 07:07.18 | the-golem | lol im such a nublet |
| 07:08.02 | ckknight | no rebuttal |
| 07:08.32 | the-golem | nor would i expect one :-) |
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| 07:13.00 | art3mis | ckknight: because ive been telling everyone it's ficticious so they'd stoip asking about it ;P |
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| 07:13.13 | ckknight | bad, art3mis |
| 07:13.16 | ckknight | just point em to the wiki |
| 07:13.53 | art3mis | it's much easier to explain that it's codenamed Heffelump because it's imaginary and steals your honey ;P |
| 07:14.31 | art3mis | hehe you should add random messages to aprrot |
| 07:14.34 | art3mis | parrot |
| 07:14.50 | Wobwork | "*awk*" |
| 07:15.00 | art3mis | every now and again you see a "Your pants fall off" scroll by |
| 07:15.09 | art3mis | err down |
| 07:15.14 | Wobwork | "Hovercraft full (eels)" |
| 07:15.38 | art3mis | hah |
| 07:18.09 | kergoth | should just do a general purpose random message mod for scrolling text addons.. have a futurama one or something.. just make it do it at random, or after you've stopped moving for a couple minutes, or something |
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| 07:18.37 | ckknight | so I'm adding a "Report issue" thing to Joker |
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| 07:20.25 | evl | ckknight: Why embed error reporting into a base library, it would be like putting a horse carrier as the default option on a truck |
| 07:20.33 | ckknight | ...I'm not |
| 07:20.41 | ckknight | well, sorta |
| 07:20.45 | ckknight | perhaps you misunderstand |
| 07:21.03 | evl | Why not do JokerFeedback while it's in beta |
| 07:21.07 | ckknight | you know how addons have a donate button if they put X-Donate? |
| 07:21.28 | ckknight | well, I'm also allowing for X-IssueTracker |
| 07:21.33 | evl | I've never ever used that button and I'd much rather donate to the wowace hosting giving everyone equal benefit |
| 07:22.09 | ckknight | donating to the website and donating to the authors are both good and serve distinct purposes |
| 07:22.23 | evl | The best possible thing that could happen to ace now was someone coming along with a extremely conservative less-is-more approach imho. |
| 07:22.32 | kergoth | if i were to donate, it wouldnt be in game |
| 07:22.42 | evl | You want a tiny base library and then you can build on that |
| 07:23.02 | ckknight | kergoth: you're not everyone, just remember that ;-) |
| 07:23.10 | ckknight | I've gotten quite a few donations from the ingame button |
| 07:23.15 | ckknight | therefore, it's worth it to me |
| 07:23.19 | ckknight | evl: yea, that's not how I've designed Joker |
| 07:24.26 | kergoth | i like that joker and ace2 and dongle exist as alternatives.. i'm really glad, though, that people doing libs are starting to cut back on the deps and be more generally useful regardless of which of those frameworks you happen to use |
| 07:24.26 | evl | It can be argued Ace and probably Joker too provides quite an extensive amount of stuff most addons will never make use of |
| 07:24.58 | kergoth | evl, if you, as an author, dont need those things, that avoid a framework entirely, or try dongle or something, nobody's forcing you to use that framework if it doesnt meet your needs |
| 07:25.05 | kergoth | s/that av/then av/ |
| 07:25.29 | sag_ich_nicht | we need some addon that forces all libraries to be loaded first, to lower loadtime. >< |
| 07:25.37 | sag_ich_nicht | like all, not just ace libraries >.> |
| 07:25.39 | evl | I'm just saying initialization and event registration is the very basics a library would need. |
| 07:25.43 | ckknight | ...no, sag_ich_nicht |
| 07:25.47 | kergoth | sag_ich_nicht, that's pointless, and gains nothing |
| 07:26.05 | evl | I think the disembeds thingy with WowAceUpdater works very well |
| 07:26.07 | ckknight | evl: okay, and some libraries require more, that's all |
| 07:26.08 | kergoth | evl, thats a personal opinion, some libs try to fill more needs than others |
| 07:26.39 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47744 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: |
| 07:26.39 | CIA-14 | LibJoker-1.0 - add a report issue button, as dictated by X-IssueTracker. |
| 07:26.39 | CIA-14 | - X-IssueTracker is in the form of either "website:linkhere" or "wowace:jira_project_id". e.g. 10001 links to the Jira Evaluation project. |
| 07:27.02 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47745 10Joker/JokerTest/JokerTest.toc: JokerTest - set X-IssueTracker to "Wowace:10001", which actually links to the Jira Evaluation project, but you should get the idea. |
| 07:27.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i know, it sounds pointless, but actually, wrote a very cheap version of such an addon once(just the toc and then an end in the .lua :P), it lowered loadtime quite a bit, the question is why it did that, because it shouldn't make a difference :P |
| 07:27.26 | sag_ich_nicht | +i |
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| 07:34.05 | ckknight | talking to Dolby now so that I can support WoWI with the X-IssueTracker |
| 07:36.12 | CIA-14 | 03mitchell * r47746 10RangeDisplay/ (8 files): |
| 07:36.12 | CIA-14 | RangeDisplay: |
| 07:36.12 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.33 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: In your del(t) functions you have t[' '] = true; t[' '] = nil; Whats it good for? |
| 07:36.46 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: it's a funky luaism |
| 07:36.52 | ckknight | basically: |
| 07:37.05 | ckknight | local t = {} |
| 07:37.08 | sylvanaar | ckknight did you ping? |
| 07:37.10 | ckknight | t is now 32 bytes big |
| 07:37.27 | sylvanaar | i love jack in the box breakfast btw |
| 07:37.44 | Sole_ | I wish we had jack in the box in NZ, my guildies from the US tell me its great :( |
| 07:37.45 | ckknight | ; for i = 1, 1000 do t[i] = true; end -- t is now 8032 bytes big (or so) |
| 07:37.47 | Sole_ | and taco bell too |
| 07:37.56 | ckknight | for i = 1, 1000 do t[i] = nil; end -- t is still 8032 bytes big |
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| 07:38.09 | ckknight | t[' '] = true; -- t is 40 bytes big |
| 07:38.17 | ckknight | t[' '] = nil -- t is 40 bytes big |
| 07:38.22 | sylvanaar | yeah, jack in the box breakfast sandwiches are as big as thier burgers yum |
| 07:38.32 | ckknight | sylvanaar: just wanted to ask if I could nab some code from Prat's URL copy thingy |
| 07:38.50 | sylvanaar | ckknight ah, yeah, take whatever you need |
| 07:38.57 | ckknight | the popup box thing |
| 07:39.08 | ckknight | sylvanaar: I got it working for Joker's donate and issue tracker thingy |
| 07:39.11 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: hmm ok, weird :-P |
| 07:39.11 | Xinhuan | so assigning a value to a table resizes it immediately? |
| 07:39.16 | sylvanaar | ckknight cool |
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| 07:39.31 | ckknight | yes, Xinhuan, but not deletion |
| 07:39.43 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 07:39.45 | ckknight | it's so this can work without messing up: for k in pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end |
| 07:40.01 | Xinhuan | do you know if pairs or ipairs is better for numeric tables? |
| 07:40.07 | ckknight | if it were to resize intermediately, the next(t, k) would mess up, seeing as k wouldn't exist in the table |
| 07:40.09 | ckknight | ipairs, by far |
| 07:40.25 | Xinhuan | i see |
| 07:41.21 | Sole_ | what makes ipairs better for numeric tables? is the function just naturally smaller than pairs and thus a lot faster/efficient? |
| 07:41.36 | ckknight | I think it's O(n) vs. O(n lg n) |
| 07:41.43 | ckknight | could be wrong about that, though |
| 07:41.49 | ckknight | either way, the function itself is simpler |
| 07:41.52 | sylvanaar | test realm got another patch? |
| 07:42.17 | Xinhuan | yes they nerfed ssc trash i think |
| 07:42.22 | Sole_ | dumb question I know, but Im curious and cant find much info about it besides 'ipairs is for numeric tables' |
| 07:42.38 | sylvanaar | never been - i need to get back in a real raiding guild |
| 07:43.44 | sylvanaar | so wierd that running the nonptr leads to yet another patch to the ptr |
| 07:43.58 | Sole_ | ye |
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| 07:44.14 | Xinhuan | only if you have the PTR installed |
| 07:44.19 | Sole_ | it annoys the bejesus out of me |
| 07:44.26 | Xinhuan | the launcher keeps both updated apparently |
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| 07:50.39 | Sole | so these two guys were preaching the 'Apple Laptops are amazing and anything else is pure shit' gospel today |
| 07:50.47 | Sole | I quote "macs dont get viruses" |
| 07:50.50 | Sole | made me giggle |
| 07:51.18 | ckknight | for one, the security of macs is reasonable. for two, nobody cares enough to write viruses for macs |
| 07:51.42 | Sole | 1) agreed 2) they wouldnt hear a word of it |
| 07:53.12 | evl | macs look great |
| 07:53.20 | evl | and for everyday stuff they are a lot better than windows |
| 07:53.34 | evl | it runs wow and has my favorite text editor :P |
| 07:54.16 | Nickenyfiken | Well macs getting more popular should lead to more viruses written for it |
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| 07:54.49 | pb_ee1 | Morning. |
| 07:54.59 | phyber | the amusing thing about macs is that the users themselves are the virus. they just won't stfu about macs. |
| 07:55.26 | Sole | ^ indeed |
| 07:55.47 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 07:55.49 | Sole | pb_ee1: hi |
| 07:56.28 | Sole | evl: yes but downright claiming "macs > all" was probably the stupidest thing I heard all day |
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| 07:56.33 | Nickenyfiken | Bah I just wan't a computer that can run all OSs, atleast *nix/win and then i don't care |
| 07:56.41 | evl | Of course |
| 07:56.48 | evl | but if I ask 10 switchers I know |
| 07:56.57 | evl | some are unix admins, some designers, some coders |
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| 07:57.12 | evl | not one will even suggest going back |
| 07:57.22 | ckknight | I could go back |
| 07:57.26 | ckknight | I just have no reason to |
| 07:57.30 | evl | I just think it's the general feeling of quality of an apple product |
| 07:57.39 | evl | Less enterprise bloat in my OS please. |
| 07:57.45 | ckknight | my x key is broken |
| 07:57.49 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 07:57.59 | ckknight | I'm actually taking it in this weekend |
| 07:58.06 | ckknight | but I'll have to be without my computer for the weekend |
| 07:58.09 | ckknight | it's like castration |
| 07:58.15 | Nickenyfiken | hahaha |
| 07:58.43 | Nickenyfiken | You can live in a internet cafe for the weekend, like the asian kids |
| 08:00.09 | ckknight | ... |
| 08:01.32 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r47747 10RangeDisplay/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 08:01.32 | CIA-14 | RangeDisplay: |
| 08:01.32 | CIA-14 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 08:03.19 | cncfanatics | gooooood morning |
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| 08:11.32 | art3mis | cnc is poop! |
| 08:11.58 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg |
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| 08:15.05 | the-golem | that picture scares me |
| 08:15.14 | abbat_w | morning guys |
| 08:15.25 | art3mis | it's hello kitty island adventure |
| 08:25.22 | abbat_w | "Castcomm doesn't use the UNIT_SPELLCAST_ events for other players because those events are range-limited." |
| 08:25.30 | abbat_w | what range of this events? |
| 08:29.09 | evl | IsShown will return false if an object is off-screen? |
| 08:29.35 | cncfanatics | evl, try it ? |
| 08:29.41 | evl | I can't, at work :P |
| 08:30.13 | the-golem | hmm |
| 08:30.21 | cncfanatics | can someone post something on US forums for me ? |
| 08:30.21 | the-golem | does bongos take textures? |
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| 08:30.58 | the-golem | like if i make my own *frame* instead of the ugly wow frames/borders? |
| 08:31.02 | the-golem | hi orionshock |
| 08:31.10 | orionshock | >.> |
| 08:31.34 | cncfanatics | orionshock, post something for me plx |
| 08:31.41 | orionshock | :D again? |
| 08:31.45 | cncfanatics | ya |
| 08:31.58 | orionshock | ok... |
| 08:32.09 | orionshock | this time im gona have to charge you, 300g |
| 08:32.24 | cncfanatics | "Would it be possible to add the ability to use spell names in GameTooltip:SetSpell instead of spell id & spell book?" |
| 08:32.31 | cncfanatics | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=ABFBDA5D4CC95DD4E88225C293B87D2D?topicId=879058320&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 08:33.21 | orionshock | me thinks you want the suggestions thread instead cncfanatics |
| 08:34.23 | cncfanatics | such a things belong in those threads |
| 08:34.31 | cncfanatics | they're fixes not suggestions |
| 08:35.00 | orionshock | sure bout that? sounds more like a request than a bugfix |
| 08:35.24 | cncfanatics | all other spell functions support both name or spellslot bookid |
| 08:35.31 | cncfanatics | SetSpell is one of the only that doesn't |
| 08:35.34 | cncfanatics | so yea its a bugfix |
| 08:35.39 | cncfanatics | cuz they forgot that one |
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| 08:38.52 | orionshock | ok - it's up |
| 08:47.23 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47748 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 08:47.23 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 08:47.23 | CIA-14 | - new option for checking weapon buffs (poisons, oils, counterweights, ...) |
| 08:47.32 | Sole_ | holy crap age of conan classes seem cool |
| 08:47.38 | Sole_ | snake form GOGO |
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| 08:50.00 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:50.27 | Sole_ | hi |
| 08:50.52 | abbat_w | Ammo! |
| 08:51.06 | abbat_w | Please, add smaaaal feature to WitchHunt ;) |
| 08:51.08 | mitch01 | are there any rogue talents/items/buffs that modify Deadly Throw range? |
| 08:51.35 | abbat_w | ability to turn off messages like "SomeRogue: Cone of Cold" |
| 08:51.44 | abbat_w | this messages colored by blue color |
| 08:52.30 | [Ammo] | those are the fade messages |
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| 08:55.17 | abbat_w | yep |
| 08:55.37 | abbat_w | very spammable in arena if mage for example use block |
| 08:56.00 | abbat_w | 1/2 of my screen fill with blue messages |
| 08:57.13 | cncfanatics | throttle them ? |
| 08:57.35 | cncfanatics | sigh |
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| 08:57.53 | cncfanatics | don't you hate it when some family relative pushes the delete button in the character tab, types in delete and presses enter ? |
| 08:58.08 | Sole | wtf |
| 08:59.01 | abbat_w | Sole ;) |
| 08:59.04 | abbat_w | morning |
| 08:59.08 | Sole | hi |
| 08:59.27 | Sole | cncfanatics: who did that? what character? and why!? |
| 08:59.40 | cncfanatics | My lil brother felt like pushing delete -.- |
| 08:59.49 | cncfanatics | was only a lvl 19 priest but still, asking if it can be recovered to a GM :p |
| 09:00.16 | Sole | he just FELT like it? |
| 09:00.20 | Sole | o_O |
| 09:00.31 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47749 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 09:00.31 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 09:00.31 | CIA-14 | - extended buff names to 5, allowing you to check for 4 flasks + 1 elixir |
| 09:01.01 | Sole | priests are a bitch 1-20 |
| 09:01.01 | Matrix110 | well brothers like to hurt their brother often enough as they are envy:P |
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| 09:01.02 | omega | the question is why he knows your password :p |
| 09:01.06 | Sole | my brother kept me in line by kicking me |
| 09:01.12 | Sole | it worked pretty well |
| 09:01.53 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.04 | cncfanatics | logout, push delete |
| 09:02.13 | abbat_w | My friend ask GM to recover 60 lvl char deleted 5-6 months ago |
| 09:02.18 | abbat_w | And GM recover it |
| 09:02.22 | abbat_w | But w/o any gear |
| 09:02.44 | cncfanatics | hmmm, hope my lvl 19 will have gear, it got like deleted 5 mins ago |
| 09:03.06 | cncfanatics | if it doesn't, meh |
| 09:03.14 | cncfanatics | just lvl 19 stuff but still :p |
| 09:03.25 | sb | its w/o gear if gear was disenchanted and reagents sold (nexus, large prismatic and stuff...) ('hacked account') |
| 09:03.47 | abbat_w | sb, no. he just delete rogue |
| 09:03.51 | sb | hmm |
| 09:04.11 | abbat_w | but after 5 or 6 month (it was before tbc out) he want to play by rogue |
| 09:04.19 | abbat_w | and ask gm for recover deleted char |
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| 09:04.24 | cncfanatics | meh come on GM |
| 09:04.31 | sb | mh.. why deleting lvl 60 chars :o |
| 09:04.57 | cncfanatics | whats the average response time of GMs ? |
| 09:05.03 | sb | mhh - 30min? :P |
| 09:05.15 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 09:05.20 | Matrix110 | 2mins to 24hours |
| 09:06.07 | cncfanatics | Matrix110, die |
| 09:06.20 | cncfanatics | in pain |
| 09:06.25 | Matrix110 | well thats my experience Oo |
| 09:07.03 | cncfanatics | die in a fire |
| 09:07.52 | abbat_w | cnc, told gm about 3-5 purples which was holded in you priest traveler's backpack ;) |
| 09:08.42 | Thelyna | what's the best event to catch if I'm writing a mod that needs to know when people leave/join the raid or get switched in groups? RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE? |
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| 09:10.03 | cncfanatics | lol abbat_w |
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| 09:11.35 | cncfanatics | Your ticket will be serviced soon |
| 09:11.45 | Matrix110 | that means 30mins |
| 09:12.01 | Matrix110 | actually had that for 2hrs aswell |
| 09:12.26 | cncfanatics | die in a horrible death |
| 09:14.27 | Sole | lol |
| 09:16.14 | Thelyna | GruulAssign = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceDebug-2.0", "AceDB-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") |
| 09:16.17 | Matrix110 | btw |
| 09:16.22 | Matrix110 | what happened to Avion? |
| 09:16.40 | Thelyna | should I then have a libs directory in my GruulAssign addon with some Ace libraries? |
| 09:17.04 | Thelyna | (this abortion of a mod wasn't designed by me) |
| 09:19.10 | Sole | yes |
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| 09:21.54 | Thelyna | presumably should have AceAddon, AceConsole, AceDebug, AceDB and AceEvent libs |
| 09:22.22 | Sole | and AceOO |
| 09:22.39 | Thelyna | doh |
| 09:22.59 | Thelyna | and if I have other freshly-updated ace mods, I can just copy libs from those? |
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| 09:26.58 | Sole | yeah |
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| 09:27.19 | Sole | I just use WAU2 and have all my libs external |
| 09:27.32 | cncfanatics | WAU2 is pure java right ? |
| 09:27.49 | the-golem | i use WAU1, i think |
| 09:27.52 | abbat_w | i just use wau1 and all my libs external |
| 09:28.04 | the-golem | cncfanatics: yeah from what i heard |
| 09:28.13 | Sole | yeah WAU2 is java afaik |
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| 09:28.54 | Athou | Nargiddley: ping |
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| 09:30.12 | Sole | jesus, ckk mustve been bored |
| 09:30.16 | cncfanatics | stupid crashes |
| 09:30.23 | Sole | JokerConfig alone is 5.2k lines o_O thats a lot of code! |
| 09:30.27 | Nargiddley | Athou, whats up ? |
| 09:30.53 | cncfanatics | whhaaa ? |
| 09:30.57 | cncfanatics | thats a LOT |
| 09:31.15 | Athou | I was wondering if the limit of controls in waterfall is necessary, I have to split my menus to several pages and it's kind of a pain :( |
| 09:31.40 | Nargiddley | Athou, get much more than that and it starts lagging. badly |
| 09:31.52 | cncfanatics | why does it ? |
| 09:32.00 | Sole | cncfanatics: JokerConfig is the biggest one by far though |
| 09:32.06 | cncfanatics | UI elements on their own shouldn't lag you |
| 09:32.12 | Sole | must be all that frame creation code |
| 09:32.25 | Nargiddley | putting enough of them in a scrollframe and yes it lags you |
| 09:32.38 | Nargiddley | trying to scroll it can lock you for a second or more |
| 09:32.41 | Athou | is it possible for you to split into pages directly in waterfall when exceeding the limit ? |
| 09:32.41 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 09:33.50 | Nargiddley | if your config is hitting the limit it should probably be split anyway |
| 09:34.55 | Nargiddley | Baggins was hitting it on bags with lots of sections before i split the sections to a page each |
| 09:36.42 | Athou | I have a page for each profession, each one containing one checkbox for each craft |
| 09:37.14 | Athou | the limit is exceeded for large professions |
| 09:38.12 | Athou | and it looks like a textbox is counted twice, once for the name and once for the actual textbox |
| 09:38.18 | Athou | the limit is reached quite quickly |
| 09:38.29 | Nargiddley | an aceoptions textbox, yeah |
| 09:39.10 | cncfanatics | whats the limit anyway ? |
| 09:39.43 | Nargiddley | because if you feed too many it locks the game up for seconds at a time |
| 09:39.51 | Nargiddley | and then trying to scroll does the same |
| 09:40.08 | Athou | the limit is set to 250 atm |
| 09:40.20 | Matrix110 | maybe make groups for the crafts? |
| 09:40.29 | Matrix110 | for example Enchant Weapon - |
| 09:40.35 | Matrix110 | or Tailoring: Chest |
| 09:41.17 | Matrix110 | Alchemy: Elixirs Alchemy: Potions Alchemy: Transmute |
| 09:41.26 | Matrix110 | but ye kinda annoying:P |
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| 09:50.42 | Nargiddley | testing it out, 500 is noticably slower, 1000 is locking up pretty bad |
| 09:52.00 | Nargiddley | but up to you |
| 09:53.05 | CIA-14 | 03nargiddley * r47750 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: The control limit is now able to be changed for your window by specifying 'controlLimit' as a parameter to :Register |
| 09:53.50 | Athou | thanks, i'll have a look |
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| 09:58.57 | Athou | it lags a little bit but I can live with that |
| 10:02.43 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47751 10CraftList2/ (CraftList2.lua localization.lua): |
| 10:02.43 | CIA-14 | CraftList2: |
| 10:02.43 | CIA-14 | - you can now set a comment for each craft. it will be printed right to that craft when answering a query |
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| 10:10.52 | the-golem | hrm |
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| 10:14.40 | cncfanatics | 250 elements, doubt i'll ever hit that |
| 10:14.51 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, any ETA on changing UI element colors yet ? |
| 10:15.03 | cncfanatics | requested that a few weeks ago |
| 10:15.19 | Nargiddley | you mean the 3 state checks ? |
| 10:15.59 | cncfanatics | half checked checkbuttons yea |
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| 10:18.30 | Sole | I wonder how JokerConfig looks, dont have time to create an addon just to see it though :( |
| 10:18.40 | Sole | Im guessing its similiar to waterfall |
| 10:18.54 | Nargiddley | waterfall with different controls |
| 10:19.05 | Sole | figured |
| 10:19.09 | Nargiddley | some very different, like the color picker |
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| 10:19.36 | Sole | yeah the color option was completely redone I see |
| 10:19.52 | Sole | would be interesting if we could implement 'skins' later on |
| 10:20.33 | Sole | I like flat animated interfaces |
| 10:21.19 | abbat_w | heh |
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| 10:21.28 | abbat_w | much better then dewdrop menu ;) |
| 10:21.36 | abbat_w | and much much user-oriented ;) |
| 10:21.42 | Sole | yeh |
| 10:21.45 | orionshock | aaahh, need to reset Ora2 MT frame , anyone got a quick command? |
| 10:22.04 | abbat_w | Ammo maybe? |
| 10:22.22 | [Ammo] | reset? |
| 10:22.33 | [Ammo] | delete saved vars :) |
| 10:22.34 | orionshock | ya i might have draged it off screen |
| 10:22.37 | orionshock | >.> |
| 10:22.57 | Sole | hows Mikk doing with his WindowLib? |
| 10:23.07 | the-golem | hrm |
| 10:23.31 | the-golem | dont suppose anyone has attempted to re-skin the default interface |
| 10:23.37 | [Ammo] | hmm i thought I made it clamp'd |
| 10:23.38 | Sole | so that we can start using it and not have users bitch about 'accidentally' (read: stupidly) dragging a frame off screen |
| 10:23.50 | Sole | the-golem: theres a number of reskins around |
| 10:23.56 | [Ammo] | Sole: it uses windowlib afaik |
| 10:24.03 | [Ammo] | oh wait, not for the mt frames |
| 10:24.04 | [Ammo] | oops |
| 10:24.07 | [Ammo] | ohwell |
| 10:24.27 | Sole | ahh so he did finish it |
| 10:24.29 | Sole | cool |
| 10:24.35 | abbat_w | Joker? |
| 10:24.48 | Sole | no, WindowLib |
| 10:25.00 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 10:25.03 | the-golem | Sole: really? cuz i see alotta stuff that adds functionality or whatnot, but not anything that actually just *skins* things |
| 10:25.41 | Sole | the-golem: well it was a simple replacement of the UI image files so it was literally just a replacement of the default interface |
| 10:25.57 | [Ammo] | the-golem: get skinner |
| 10:25.57 | the-golem | hrm |
| 10:25.57 | Sole | just plop em in your Data folder or whatever it waqs |
| 10:25.58 | [Ammo] | or something |
| 10:26.01 | [Ammo] | and hceck that |
| 10:26.10 | [Ammo] | if that's your idea of a neat skin :p |
| 10:26.16 | the-golem | lol |
| 10:26.25 | the-golem | skinner just replaces the skins with colors, afaik |
| 10:26.28 | Sole | it was cool for a while, but now its a bit of a gimmick to me |
| 10:26.31 | [Ammo] | it doesn't |
| 10:26.40 | Sole | skinner creates frames which have a background gradient afaik |
| 10:26.51 | Sole | well |
| 10:26.53 | the-golem | Sole: yeah, what i meant |
| 10:26.59 | orionshock | it actualy just reColors the Background texture of a the given frame |
| 10:27.00 | Sole | more like replaces the background of existing frames |
| 10:27.12 | Sole | yeah orionshock corrected me before I could |
| 10:27.19 | abbat_w | check eePanels2 guys |
| 10:27.23 | the-golem | yeah |
| 10:27.38 | Sole | it was quite amusing when Haste disowned it |
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| 10:27.53 | Sole | because a bunch of people made skinner a freakin mess |
| 10:27.59 | the-golem | eePanels is good for *new* windows, but .. the default Blizz stuff? |
| 10:28.00 | abbat_w | yep |
| 10:28.14 | abbat_w | the-golem, only for new windows |
| 10:28.16 | Sole | the-golem: check WoWInterface, I think they had the files |
| 10:29.00 | abbat_w | btw |
| 10:29.21 | abbat_w | ah, nvm |
| 10:29.38 | the-golem | hmmm |
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| 10:29.50 | the-golem | they've got a UI designer thingy |
| 10:29.55 | the-golem | but ... |
| 10:30.02 | Sole | you mean the program? |
| 10:30.09 | the-golem | yeah |
| 10:30.17 | the-golem | hasnt been updated in over a year |
| 10:30.17 | Sole | yeah its not bad for begginers |
| 10:30.25 | Sole | it annoyed me though |
| 10:30.34 | Sole | easier for me to just create it through lua |
| 10:30.58 | Sole | whats with the lack of >good< addon suggestions these days? |
| 10:31.12 | the-golem | meaning? |
| 10:31.25 | the-golem | all the >good< addons have already been made? ^^ |
| 10:31.40 | Sole | meaning all the suggestions on the Addon Suggestions forums are crap |
| 10:32.54 | the-golem | ah |
| 10:33.02 | the-golem | gonna hafta take a look at that |
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| 10:36.03 | orionshock | shade of aran, tree form druid - is he immune to the sheep? |
| 10:36.19 | dreamss2 | yes |
| 10:37.10 | the-golem | all druids are immune to sheep while shapeshifted |
| 10:37.13 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47752 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua: |
| 10:37.13 | CIA-14 | FuBar_CraftTimersFu: |
| 10:37.13 | CIA-14 | - minor menu bugfix |
| 10:37.37 | sica | aran will sheep him, AFAIK, but he can shift out of it |
| 10:37.48 | the-golem | however tree form can be banished ^^ |
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| 10:38.44 | abbat_w | heh |
| 10:38.56 | abbat_w | at bg sometimes i make polymorph on druid |
| 10:39.10 | abbat_w | and sometimes druid be in sheep full time ;) |
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| 10:42.35 | the-golem | abbat_w: while druid was in humanoid? |
| 10:42.43 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47753 10MultiTips/MultiTips.lua: |
| 10:42.43 | CIA-14 | MultiTips: |
| 10:42.43 | CIA-14 | - removed taint, you are now able to close the social frame while in combat |
| 10:42.48 | abbat_w | the-golem, yep |
| 10:42.52 | the-golem | ah |
| 10:42.54 | the-golem | yeah |
| 10:43.01 | the-golem | druid prolly not smart enuff to shift out :P |
| 10:43.18 | abbat_w | don't know why some druids don't do shapeshift to break poly but... |
| 10:43.26 | the-golem | lol |
| 10:48.42 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47754 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 10:48.42 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:48.42 | CIA-14 | - Added Valentine's Day event |
| 10:48.42 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47756 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 10:48.42 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 10:48.42 | CIA-14 | - Fixed a typo. |
| 10:48.46 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47755 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 10:48.48 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 10:48.50 | CIA-14 | - Added Valentine's Day event. |
| 10:49.23 | Sole | Atlas is Ace'd now? |
| 10:49.36 | [Ammo] | somewhat |
| 10:49.47 | [Ammo] | it's not fully reworked yet |
| 10:49.50 | [Ammo] | but they're working on it |
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| 10:50.11 | Sole | any idea on how it compares to cartographer? functionality and efficiency-wise? |
| 10:50.24 | Sole | as far as I remember, it wasnt too good on the memory last time I tried it |
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| 10:50.46 | Sole | guessing they've improved on that |
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| 10:56.19 | Hjalte | Anyone has a link to a really good text-to-speech robot on the net? :) |
| 10:56.54 | the-golem | hmm |
| 10:56.59 | the-golem | anyone here on a mac? |
| 10:57.09 | omega | I am the-golem, but no wow on this mac |
| 10:57.15 | the-golem | i'd like to know what font this is |
| 10:57.16 | the-golem | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full7155.jpg |
| 10:57.55 | the-golem | cuz that font is hawtsawce |
| 10:58.18 | omega | looks like Monaco |
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| 10:59.38 | ramoz | its standard mac font? |
| 10:59.39 | ramoz | :O |
| 10:59.47 | ramoz | have the same in terminal on my mac |
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| 11:00.30 | Sole | he's using a global =\ |
| 11:00.57 | the-golem | a global? |
| 11:01.12 | the-golem | font? |
| 11:01.28 | Sole | no, a global variable - LICKITY_ENABLED |
| 11:01.47 | the-golem | oh yeah |
| 11:01.50 | the-golem | i saw that |
| 11:02.14 | the-golem | i make everything local ^^ |
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| 11:02.38 | Sole | well he could just use AceDB |
| 11:02.44 | Sole | I can understand his reasoning |
| 11:02.48 | Sole | its only 1 variable |
| 11:03.58 | the-golem | still |
| 11:04.47 | the-golem | local varible = blah -- This is too hard to type? |
| 11:04.59 | the-golem | oooh i cannot spell |
| 11:05.35 | Sole | he couldn't save it then |
| 11:05.41 | Sole | check the toc |
| 11:05.50 | the-golem | ah |
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| 11:06.00 | Sole | ##SavedVariablesPerChar: LICKITY_ENABLED |
| 11:06.46 | Sole | no idea, but I like it |
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| 11:08.37 | phyber | the-golem: looks like Consolas (if it were windows) |
| 11:08.46 | phyber | no idea what it's called on mac |
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| 11:10.41 | orionshock | Flame Wreath, reminds me of thaddius in nax |
| 11:12.07 | phyber | the-golem: my sources tell me the font is called Monaco. |
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| 11:35.43 | the-golem | phyber: thanks |
| 11:36.34 | ramoz | so |
| 11:36.35 | CIA-14 | 03mitchell 07RangeColors * r47757 10RangeDisplay/: RangeDisplay: branching for RangeColors |
| 11:37.00 | ramoz | im looking for a addon that just colors the names of my guildmates after class (not prat, its bloat for me) |
| 11:37.41 | sylvanaar | simplechatmods, phanxchat, etc etc there are many |
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| 11:38.04 | Matrix110 | rs_classcolour |
| 11:38.24 | Matrix110 | even colors the guild menu |
| 11:38.27 | Matrix110 | which is really nice |
| 11:38.36 | Matrix110 | (configurable ofc) |
| 11:39.02 | ramoz | is it on wowi? |
| 11:39.17 | Matrix110 | uhm ive got no clue |
| 11:39.25 | Matrix110 | its on files.wowace.com atleast |
| 11:39.49 | Matrix110 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6546-RS_ClassColors.html |
| 11:39.49 | ramoz | oh right |
| 11:40.31 | Matrix110 | but for me atleast it was bugged using it together with other chatmods that could color the chatnames |
| 11:40.48 | Matrix110 | (but chatmods dont color the guild menu:-( ) |
| 11:41.05 | ramoz | i dont need any other chatmods, so spanx |
| 11:42.11 | phyber | Teknicolor is probably still on the SVN |
| 11:42.34 | sylvanaar | there are like 100 mods that do name coloring |
| 11:42.48 | sylvanaar | seek and ye shall find |
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| 11:48.35 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 11:48.35 | CIA-14 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 11:52.04 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 11:52.04 | CIA-14 | - Added Halloween to the events. |
| 11:52.05 | CIA-14 | - fixed a typo. |
| 11:52.30 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47760 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 11:52.30 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:52.30 | CIA-14 | - Added Halloween to the events. |
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| 11:57.54 | the-golem | grrr |
| 11:58.03 | the-golem | want TextMate! |
| 12:00.22 | mitch01 | for passing rgb values that are stored in a table, is it worth doing setColor(c[1], c[2], c[3]) over setColor(unpack(c))? or is unpack "fast enough"? |
| 12:00.29 | Tinyboom | ramoz: Auldlangsyne |
| 12:01.10 | JoshBorke | mitch01: do c[1], c[2], c[3], though unpack would be 'fast enough' |
| 12:01.47 | mitch01 | josh: erm, unpack() looks nicer, why should I do the ugly one then if unpack is OK? |
| 12:01.51 | Tinyboom | ramoz:together with teknicolor that colors chat/guildlist/friendslist ;) |
| 12:02.13 | mitch01 | or is the ugly one still a bit faster? |
| 12:02.28 | JoshBorke | it's still a bit faster |
| 12:02.54 | mitch01 | ok, thanks |
| 12:03.36 | JoshBorke | join #luabot |
| 12:04.33 | ramoz | Tinyboom: dont need guild/friendslist |
| 12:06.28 | Tinyboom | ramoz: then you just need teknicolor, simple lightweight:) |
| 12:07.52 | ramoz | Tinyboom: that's what i got now : |
| 12:07.56 | ramoz | :) |
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| 12:09.47 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47761 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 12:09.47 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:09.47 | CIA-14 | - bugfix |
| 12:10.15 | mitch01 | next one: suppose I have colorR, colorG, colorB in my AceDB now, and I want to migrate to color = { r, g, b} style storage without loosing prev config if present. would this be OK in OnInit() : if (db.colorR) then color = { db.colorR, db.colorG, db.colorB }; db.colorR, db.colorG, db.colorB = nil, nil, nil end ? |
| 12:11.12 | the-golem | odd question, why do colors in wow look like RRR GGG BBB? |
| 12:11.38 | the-golem | in hex that is |
| 12:11.52 | JoshBorke | it doesn't |
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| 12:11.59 | JoshBorke | you're neglecting the alpha |
| 12:12.09 | the-golem | RRGGBBAA? |
| 12:12.09 | mitch01 | RRGGBBAA |
| 12:12.19 | the-golem | hrm |
| 12:12.33 | [Ammo] | actually when used to color strings it's AARRGGBB |
| 12:12.37 | the-golem | i coulda sword i saw 9 numbers and not 8 |
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| 12:14.00 | pb_ee1 | ~framexml |
| 12:14.01 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
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| 12:16.41 | Pkekyo | g'mornin all |
| 12:18.37 | JoshBorke | morning |
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| 12:21.05 | Pkekyo | two mandatory lectures on climate changes and global warming in two days...meh |
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| 12:22.54 | Pkekyo | what's the simplest way to make and import your own artwork into your UI? |
| 12:23.51 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47762 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 12:23.52 | CIA-14 | CraftList2: |
| 12:23.52 | CIA-14 | - bugfix |
| 12:24.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Athou |
| 12:24.43 | mikma | Pkekyo: make a transparent tga and put it in some addon folder |
| 12:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | "bugfix" is a very minimalistic comit entry |
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| 12:24.51 | sag_ich_nicht | *commit |
| 12:24.59 | mikma | transparent as the background of the tga is transparent |
| 12:25.01 | sag_ich_nicht | a bit TOO minimalistic some might say :P |
| 12:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo: use SharedMediaLib + SharedMedia and follow the instructions in MyMedia.txt |
| 12:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 12:25.57 | sag_ich_nicht | , |
| 12:27.15 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: do you play on eu_silvermoon? ;) |
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| 12:29.52 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r47763 10Tattle/ (25 files in 20 dirs): Tattle: Weekly full run of the dataminer |
| 12:30.40 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: not that I know of, no :> howso? |
| 12:31.02 | Pkekyo | I might have a char or two there though |
| 12:31.17 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: then nvm, saw a screenshot last night and thought it was you that posted it:p |
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| 12:31.35 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: I might have, what screenie was it? |
| 12:31.56 | Tinyboom | gorefiend fight |
| 12:32.12 | baer_ | LIMBO!!! |
| 12:32.24 | Pkekyo | hmm...can't recall that...might've posted it, but wouldn't have been my char atleast |
| 12:33.14 | Tinyboom | probably someone else:p |
| 12:34.05 | JoshBorke | funkeh posted a gorefiend fight last night |
| 12:34.17 | JoshBorke | and everyone bitched about his bar textures so he changed them |
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| 12:34.23 | Tinyboom | ahh, then it was funkeh probably:) |
| 12:35.35 | Tinyboom | only reason i saw it was from silvermoon was because of the character "Toparsokker", who names his warlock that:p |
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| 12:36.05 | Pkekyo | JoshBorke: what bar textures was it? |
| 12:36.12 | JoshBorke | i think litestep? |
| 12:36.13 | Nickenyfiken_ | Hmm hmm is there a list of frames you can inherit using CreateFrame()? |
| 12:36.18 | Tinyboom | http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6660/detailjl5.jpg |
| 12:36.28 | Tinyboom | that was the original |
| 12:36.39 | Pkekyo | honestly, that bar texture is FUGLY |
| 12:36.44 | Tinyboom | aye |
| 12:37.07 | Pkekyo | no offense to the author |
| 12:37.13 | Pkekyo | oh nevermind, take offense, your texture is fugly! :p |
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| 12:48.09 | xyu | why is omen so whack on bosses like Void reaver? |
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| 12:49.21 | pb_ee1 | Tinyboom, I hope this user <3 text & bars :p |
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| 12:50.51 | Xinhuan | whack? |
| 12:51.14 | xyu | i dont know. i seem to pull aggro when i'm not even halfway up the threat meter |
| 12:51.24 | xyu | other dpsers are even ahead of me |
| 12:52.02 | Xinhuan | the other dpsers/tanks ahead of you could be using KTM |
| 12:52.34 | xyu | could be, but doesn't omen read ktm data? |
| 12:52.42 | xyu | or was it the other way around |
| 12:52.57 | orionshock | tbh if you are Dependant on threat meters of any kind you need to learn to play your class |
| 12:53.07 | Xinhuan | what class are you? |
| 12:53.12 | orionshock | .... or the mob has a fked threat table...in witch case ur screwed |
| 12:53.14 | xyu | i'm not dependant, but i'm just curious |
| 12:53.23 | xyu | it never works so why even install it? |
| 12:53.26 | xyu | mage |
| 12:53.37 | Xinhuan | i've never seen a mage pull aggro on VR before |
| 12:53.44 | Xinhuan | its always a shadow priest or a lock first |
| 12:53.51 | xyu | our locks/ sp suck |
| 12:53.56 | xyu | i mean |
| 12:54.01 | xyu | that they woudln't be able to pull it :P |
| 12:54.09 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 12:54.17 | xyu | we don't even have enough dps to down loot reaver atm. |
| 12:54.26 | xyu | he enrages and kills us heh |
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| 12:54.31 | Xinhuan | is that because people die? |
| 12:54.40 | xyu | 1 usually does |
| 12:54.43 | xyu | real early |
| 12:54.49 | Xinhuan | so even with 24 alive you still don't have enough dps? |
| 12:54.53 | Xinhuan | by 10 minutes? |
| 12:54.57 | xyu | yeah, sad huh |
| 12:55.10 | xyu | i think we bring too many healers |
| 12:55.17 | Xinhuan | how many healers do you bring? |
| 12:55.17 | xyu | it's not that much of an intensive healing fight |
| 12:55.27 | Xinhuan | we bring like 6 and he dies in 6 minutes |
| 12:55.27 | xyu | i'm not sure. 8? i think |
| 12:55.31 | Xinhuan | with 4 min to enrage |
| 12:55.31 | Dynom | lol |
| 12:55.38 | Xinhuan | 8 is fine |
| 12:55.47 | Xinhuan | does your raid leader properly set up groups for maximising dps? |
| 12:56.08 | xyu | yeah he does a pretty good job about that. we do bring 4 prot wars, is that ok? i prefer 3 imo. |
| 12:56.11 | xyu | 4-5 |
| 12:56.12 | evl | MOAR DOTS |
| 12:56.18 | Dynom | 4?! |
| 12:56.18 | Xinhuan | like putting a 'melee group' - rogue, rogue, enhancement shaman, fury warrior, warrior |
| 12:56.23 | xyu | yeah Dynom |
| 12:56.33 | Dynom | we are still talking about reaver right ? |
| 12:56.37 | xyu | yeah rofl |
| 12:56.43 | Dynom | 4?! |
| 12:56.45 | Xinhuan | you need 4 tanks for VR, so that's fine, but only 2 needs to be prot |
| 12:56.55 | xyu | ah |
| 12:57.01 | xyu | well then that might be an issue i can bring up |
| 12:57.14 | Xinhuan | no, your tanks will still be tanking |
| 12:57.20 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r47764 10Tattle/ (data.lua dataminer.lua): Tattle: fix display due to domain name change |
| 12:57.21 | Xinhuan | so its irrelevant what spec they are |
| 12:57.22 | Dynom | we use 1 prot and 3 'hybrid spec' wars in dps gear iirc |
| 12:57.40 | Dynom | hmm, no 2 mostly |
| 12:57.43 | Xinhuan | as they still won't be outputting much damage - their aim would be to generate as much threat as possible |
| 12:57.51 | Xinhuan | so that they takeover the knockbacks on the highest tank |
| 12:58.08 | xyu | i don't know, it just feels our dps is so slow |
| 12:58.30 | xyu | i dont know if it's because they're running too much or what |
| 12:58.35 | Xinhuan | well, just sounds like a dps issue |
| 12:58.46 | Xinhuan | since you have 24 alive by 10 min, it isn't a tank or healing issue |
| 12:58.54 | Dynom | thats why dots rule, they keep ticking while ur running kekeke |
| 12:58.55 | xyu | nope, healing is fine. tanks are fine |
| 12:59.19 | xyu | hehe yeah Dynom, and we brought 4 locks tuesday. that should be plenty. only 1 Shadowpriest though |
| 12:59.25 | xyu | no enhance shamans. 1 ele tho |
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| 12:59.41 | Xinhuan | that's fine |
| 12:59.50 | Dynom | 1 is more then 'nuf, keep CoS and CoE up and spam it, and ofc use buffs |
| 12:59.55 | Dynom | that saves a lot of dps |
| 13:00.01 | Xinhuan | for VR, the damage meters shoudl look like that |
| 13:00.17 | Xinhuan | rogues > warriors > shadow priests > locks > mages |
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| 13:00.33 | xyu | yeah |
| 13:00.49 | Dynom | from left to right ? |
| 13:00.55 | Xinhuan | rogues highest that is |
| 13:00.57 | Xinhuan | and mage lower |
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| 13:01.19 | Dynom | rogues > locks > spriest > mages in our list |
| 13:01.21 | xyu | the thing is, our best rogue dps'er ....ALWAYS 100% always dies. lol i dont know wtf is his prob. get more hps! or at least run out every once in a while or something i dont kow |
| 13:01.27 | xyu | it just seems every pull he's dying early |
| 13:01.40 | Xinhuan | you have to examine why he dies then |
| 13:01.40 | xyu | and he'll be the only one that dies |
| 13:01.46 | Xinhuan | is he dying because he pull aggro? |
| 13:01.50 | Xinhuan | or is he dying from lack of heals? |
| 13:01.52 | Dynom | if he dies he's sucky dps tbh |
| 13:02.01 | Dynom | dead dps = no dps |
| 13:02.07 | xyu | Yep |
| 13:02.08 | xyu | i agree |
| 13:02.11 | Xinhuan | or is he dying because the ranged dps are too near and the arcane balls land too near him and explode? |
| 13:02.22 | Dynom | sounds like he doesn't run out |
| 13:02.24 | xyu | once that happened |
| 13:02.27 | xyu | but that was just one |
| 13:02.29 | Xinhuan | 2 shamans can just chainheal the melee |
| 13:02.32 | Dynom | ye |
| 13:02.33 | xyu | the other times i'm not sure how he's dying |
| 13:03.03 | xyu | but even then 24 other people should be able to down VR imo |
| 13:03.09 | Dynom | hmm |
| 13:03.17 | Dynom | if high dps dies you lose a lot on VR |
| 13:03.25 | Dynom | if 1 high dps dies* |
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| 13:04.04 | Xinhuan | your raid would have 4 tanks, 8 healers, 13 dps right? |
| 13:04.04 | xyu | VR was at 20% at enrage :/ so we still had a ton left to go right? |
| 13:04.04 | Dynom | O.O |
| 13:04.04 | xyu | right |
| 13:04.04 | Dynom | ye thats a LOT |
| 13:04.04 | Xinhuan | so losing a dps that is your "top dps" would be losing 10% of your raid dps |
| 13:04.25 | Xinhuan | slightly higher than 1/13 that is |
| 13:04.29 | Chompers | as a dps warrior i love the VR fight |
| 13:04.38 | Xinhuan | even higher, since melee doesn't have to run and dodge like ranged do |
| 13:04.42 | Chompers | with good healing of course :P |
| 13:04.42 | Dynom | I love it too, it's just pew pew zomg |
| 13:04.59 | RaydenUnicyclist | facebook does not allow images in your info |
| 13:05.06 | xyu | well we'll have to examine how he's dying, and how our dps isn't keeping up. |
| 13:05.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://sigs.guildlaunch.net/sig.php/619657ZnpkG.png <-- can't display that then :( |
| 13:05.47 | xyu | i mean i have pretty crap gear imo. 880 dmg, 165 hit, and a really low crit rating (i'm frost) and i was higher than our locks >< |
| 13:06.05 | xyu | that's unbuffed |
| 13:06.46 | Dynom | if you top locks you got some sucky ass locks |
| 13:06.52 | xyu | yep |
| 13:07.30 | Xinhuan | you should consider respeccing fire |
| 13:07.35 | Xinhuan | and your locks to affliction |
| 13:07.44 | xyu | i know, but i like pvp too much. |
| 13:07.44 | Xinhuan | to improve dps |
| 13:07.54 | Xinhuan | yes but just like how you need a pvp spec to pvp |
| 13:08.00 | Xinhuan | you also need a pve spec to progress in pve |
| 13:08.09 | Dynom | ye |
| 13:08.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | so is blade3d dead or what? |
| 13:08.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | whoops |
| 13:08.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | wrong room |
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| 13:10.19 | evl | I'm trying to move MainMenuBar offscreen, but any stance change keeps resetting the position to what it previously was, anyone know if the default ui does any forced placement of things? |
| 13:10.22 | xyu | but i think frost is viable in pve. i'ts not the best, no, but it can handle itself. when i was in a serious raiding guild i was fire my whole time there. but i know frost mages that raid alrigh |
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| 13:11.34 | Dynom | sure, in the old days you always needed at least 1 frost mage ^_^ |
| 13:11.51 | Dynom | well, if you where a hordie that is |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-14 | 03bayi * r47765 10beql/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-14 | beql: |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-14 | - QuestLog: Added ability to change questlog font size |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-14 | - Options: Added option for changing quest log font size |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-14 | - Options: Added Tooltip Color options.lua |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-14 | - Locales: Updated Locales |
| 13:12.59 | xyu | it sure makes 5 mans a joke. we did all of shattered halls w/ 2 frost mages 2 hunters and an elemental shaman |
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| 13:13.15 | xyu | start to finish |
| 13:13.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 13:13.27 | Dynom | ye, decent CC is they key to anything in WoW |
| 13:13.36 | Dynom | try doing it w/o CC, you'r so screwed |
| 13:13.56 | xyu | the last boss took 3 wipes but we eventually burned him down in 1 blade dance. |
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| 13:25.25 | CIA-14 | beql: |
| 13:25.25 | CIA-14 | - Core:trying to fix problem reported by Caliga with selecting randomly the last quest in the questlog |
| 13:25.25 | CIA-14 | - Locales: adding comments to localization.lua for addon translators, please read them |
| 13:25.25 | CIA-14 | - Locales: removing unneeded definitions from other locales |
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| 13:27.46 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47767 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 13:27.46 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 13:27.46 | CIA-14 | - Added the Winterviel event. |
| 13:28.06 | abbat_w | xyu, if you have proper gear for frost spec you can produce excellent damage |
| 13:28.13 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47768 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 13:28.13 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:28.13 | CIA-14 | - Added the Winterviel event. |
| 13:28.16 | abbat_w | proper gear and spec |
| 13:28.43 | xyu | i'm 61 pts :P but i enjoy it |
| 13:28.50 | xyu | it's a balance for pve and pvp atm. |
| 13:28.52 | Corey | whats a winterviel :D |
| 13:29.06 | abbat_w | btw, you can have about 40%-50% to crit with frost spec with good gear |
| 13:29.47 | Corey | i laugh when i see a frost mage try to kill me |
| 13:29.47 | sb | <3 arcane mages ;p |
| 13:29.48 | xyu | my gear sucks. we can only down kara/gruul. well i shoudnt' say sucks. it's average. |
| 13:29.49 | abbat_w | I think pet > arcane power ;) |
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| 13:30.04 | abbat_w | Corey, what is you class? |
| 13:30.08 | Corey | druid |
| 13:30.11 | abbat_w | =) |
| 13:30.23 | abbat_w | !char eu warsong immoralist |
| 13:30.28 | xyu | really? i generally don't mind druids. |
| 13:30.29 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/5/56). 10073 HP; 7991 Mana; 125 mana regen; 128 spell crit; 41 spell hit; 891 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; 460 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1765 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqwmvu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3agm7k ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 09:40:58 2007 ]] |
| 13:30.39 | abbat_w | I think you die faster ;) |
| 13:31.02 | abbat_w | xyu, druids is not easy for any mage |
| 13:31.08 | abbat_w | But not feral |
| 13:31.10 | xyu | even if my frostnova's dont stick |
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| 13:31.23 | abbat_w | Good druid just resist you nova ;) |
| 13:31.28 | Corey | i'd just shapeshift out of the frostnova |
| 13:31.34 | xyu | right |
| 13:31.49 | abbat_w | Good druid be in human form and shapeshift to travelform (less mana for this shift) |
| 13:31.50 | xyu | but how you kill me? :D |
| 13:32.04 | abbat_w | wrath, moonfire, stratfire |
| 13:32.12 | xyu | i'm going to cs the starfire |
| 13:32.21 | abbat_w | =)))) |
| 13:32.27 | xyu | maybe the wrath, i might block for starfire |
| 13:32.36 | abbat_w | druid cyclone you, then heal self ;) |
| 13:32.44 | xyu | trinket |
| 13:32.47 | xyu | iceblock etc. |
| 13:33.00 | abbat_w | I can kill good druid only if i didn't have any cooldowns |
| 13:33.04 | xyu | when i have trouble w/ druids |
| 13:33.08 | xyu | they just outlast me |
| 13:33.13 | xyu | they dont kill me, they just run me out of mana |
| 13:33.17 | xyu | then kill me :P |
| 13:33.19 | abbat_w | =) |
| 13:33.23 | Corey | yea |
| 13:33.24 | abbat_w | this is the problem ;) |
| 13:33.40 | abbat_w | you loose mana, druid loose to but have inner |
| 13:33.49 | xyu | but if they try to wrath and they're at say 60% HP |
| 13:33.52 | xyu | bad choice :) |
| 13:33.57 | abbat_w | he can run out, heal self and back with full hp and 2/3 manapool ;) |
| 13:33.58 | sb | btw innervate |
| 13:34.01 | xyu | CS, and i can usually burn them down in that 8 second period |
| 13:34.08 | abbat_w | nope ;) |
| 13:34.22 | abbat_w | you can try to do this if druid don't resist nova |
| 13:34.35 | abbat_w | But pvp druids have talents to resist aoe effects |
| 13:34.43 | xyu | yea :/ |
| 13:34.57 | xyu | for druids i usually try to time my pet's nova for when my frostbolt is airborn |
| 13:35.04 | xyu | no time for shift, but yeah the resist sucks |
| 13:35.05 | abbat_w | Also good geared druids have about 400+ resilience. Try to crit w/o nova ;) |
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| 13:35.30 | xyu | however, you'd be surprised at how often my frostbite hits :P |
| 13:35.31 | xyu | not aoe ^^ |
| 13:35.33 | Iceroth | pet nova + ice lance spam is annoying |
| 13:36.06 | abbat_w | nova breaks after crit. sometimes not, but... |
| 13:36.20 | abbat_w | I think druid now good opponent for mage |
| 13:36.31 | xyu | yeah it's fun to fight druids |
| 13:36.55 | xyu | i had a few good ones yesterday at elemental plat. |
| 13:37.37 | Xinhuan | [8/30 21:34:14] <xyu> however, you'd be surprised at how often my frostbite hits :P |
| 13:37.46 | Xinhuan | 1 in 6? :P |
| 13:38.18 | abbat_w | often hits - faster DR :) |
| 13:38.39 | abbat_w | CoC - aoe also. Druids resist him often too |
| 13:38.58 | abbat_w | so, only rank1 bolt for kite or impact for stun |
| 13:39.34 | abbat_w | But what i like in fight with druids - cs cyclone cast ;) |
| 13:39.59 | abbat_w | Most druids just stay confused ;) |
| 13:40.16 | Corey | u've still got ur arcane at that point |
| 13:40.19 | Corey | and LoS |
| 13:40.51 | xyu | what's the best spell to CS on a druid? |
| 13:41.04 | abbat_w | depends on situation |
| 13:41.17 | abbat_w | i prefer to cs cyclone / wrath |
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| 13:42.41 | Thrae | I wish there was more strategy in PvP when it comes to CS |
| 13:42.55 | Thrae | Either you hope the CS is on cooldown or you're CS'd |
| 13:42.58 | Corey | Thrae i love your bot... lol |
| 13:43.19 | abbat_w | :) |
| 13:43.29 | Wobin_ | http://www.uniqlo.jp/uniqlock/ |
| 13:43.33 | Thrae | Corey: He loves you too. |
| 13:43.37 | abbat_w | i prefer to cs nature school on druid |
| 13:43.39 | Corey | score |
| 13:43.45 | Corey | maybe ill get married after all |
| 13:43.45 | abbat_w | and counter strat with block |
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| 13:43.48 | Corey | you can stop crying now mom! |
| 13:43.53 | Thrae | abbat_w: That's what people said when they meant Cyclone / Wrath |
| 13:43.54 | and | hi |
| 13:44.05 | abbat_w | But main problem for me is my manapool |
| 13:44.23 | abbat_w | In fight with druid i often do spellsteal for steal HoTs |
| 13:44.36 | abbat_w | And this is huge cost of mana for me |
| 13:45.01 | abbat_w | Every druid buffed like... like i don't know who ;) |
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| 13:45.12 | cladhaire | i just silence druids, cause i'm a cheater |
| 13:45.18 | Thrae | abbat_w: See, that gives use some legroom, since we can try to fake out using Rejuvination Rank 1 |
| 13:45.51 | abbat_w | Thrae, same for mages. Dumper rank1 etc ;) |
| 13:46.03 | Cillex | Expiation? |
| 13:46.07 | Cillex | Ellyhsel? |
| 13:46.31 | abbat_w | cladhaire, just silence.... |
| 13:46.42 | abbat_w | I have imp. cs some times ago |
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| 13:47.01 | abbat_w | Drop it because at arena every ppl just resist silence |
| 13:47.21 | abbat_w | so, now i use only cs for cast counter |
| 13:47.22 | Corey | !vs eu warsong immoralist us thunderhorn cillex |
| 13:47.22 | ThraeBot | Corey: Immoralist vs Cillex! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/5/56 vs 5/45/11; Cillex wins by 414 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 13:47.35 | Cillex | lol |
| 13:47.44 | abbat_w | 414 tbrs? |
| 13:47.48 | abbat_w | what is it? |
| 13:47.53 | Thrae | ~tbr |
| 13:47.54 | purl | [tbr] ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 13:48.26 | abbat_w | my mage geared in top pvp gear ;) |
| 13:48.43 | Corey | !c us thunderhorn cillex |
| 13:48.48 | ThraeBot | Corey: Cillex, Level 70 Human Warlock (5/45/11). 7818 HP; 7643 Mana; 133 mana regen; 10 mp5; 48 spell crit; 471 +spell dmg/heal; 137 shadow dmg (608); 4.36% dodge; 30 resilience;[[ TBR: 2179 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypehh4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yt2oj ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:57:33 2007 ]] |
| 13:48.50 | Dynom | !vs warsong immoralist eu emeriss dynom |
| 13:48.51 | abbat_w | And btw, locks now easy for mage then druid |
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| 13:49.21 | abbat_w | Thrae make an pve rating ;))) |
| 13:49.21 | Dynom | he doesn't liek meh :-/ |
| 13:49.34 | Dynom | vs worldbosses O.o |
| 13:49.43 | Hjalte | !c eu kazzak hjalte |
| 13:49.46 | Corey | u didn't do what realm for the first part Dynom |
| 13:49.48 | Corey | eu/us |
| 13:49.48 | ThraeBot | Hjalte: Hjalte, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (21/40/0). 5801 HP; 8640 Mana; 391 mana regen; 226 mp5; 1794 +heal; 4.82% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1370 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2b55cb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xn6qk ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:00:18 2007 ]] |
| 13:49.58 | Thrae | Dynom: You forgot to specify us/eu for the first server |
| 13:49.59 | Hjalte | Haha, holy priest in healing gear :P |
| 13:50.04 | abbat_w | !vs eu warsong immoralist eu emeriss dynom |
| 13:50.06 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist vs Dynom! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/5/56 vs 41/2/18; Dynom wins by 505 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
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| 13:50.25 | Thrae | Warlocks are so OP |
| 13:50.27 | Dynom | omg pew pew pew (I only got pve gear) |
| 13:50.36 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn zhort us thunderhorn cillex |
| 13:50.36 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Zhort vs Cillex! A L70 hunter and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/46/15 vs 5/45/11; Cillex wins by 10 TBRs! |
| 13:50.46 | Corey | only 10 |
| 13:50.47 | Corey | ouch |
| 13:50.48 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu emeriss dynom |
| 13:50.49 | Dynom | rofl |
| 13:50.51 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Dynom! A L70 paladin and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/8/53 vs 41/2/18; Ruknor wins by 498 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 13:50.54 | Corey | and chad has horrible gear too |
| 13:50.56 | Corey | whats up with that :P |
| 13:51.02 | Cillex | we both suck |
| 13:51.09 | abbat_w | !vs eu warsong magga eu emeriss dynom |
| 13:51.12 | Corey | try his priest |
| 13:51.12 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Magga vs Dynom! A L70 warrior and a L70 warlock square off!; 5/5/51 vs 41/2/18; Dynom wins by 61 TBRs! |
| 13:51.19 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn crowdin us thunderhorn cillex |
| 13:51.20 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Crowdin vs Cillex! A L70 priest and a L70 warlock square off!; 5/0/56 vs 5/45/11; Cillex wins by 606 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 13:51.26 | abbat_w | ahaha, nice ;) |
| 13:51.34 | Thrae | I'm always looking for help reconfiguring the weights |
| 13:51.34 | Corey | ouch |
| 13:51.37 | Corey | u made him cry |
| 13:51.42 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn expiation us thunderhorn cillex |
| 13:51.43 | ThraeBot | Cillex: expiation vs cillex! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! expiation's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
| 13:51.52 | Corey | haha |
| 13:51.55 | Corey | yes its true |
| 13:51.57 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn expiation us thunderhorn cillex |
| 13:51.58 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Expiation vs Cillex! A L70 druid and a L70 warlock square off!; 8/0/53 vs 5/45/11; Cillex wins by 370 TBRs! |
| 13:52.03 | Cillex | lawl |
| 13:52.08 | Dynom | wtf, lolladin vs me I lose? |
| 13:52.20 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn patton us thunderhorn cillex |
| 13:52.21 | ThraeBot | Sorry Cillex, you must wait 40 seconds before making another request. |
| 13:52.23 | Dynom | let's duel again within 30 seconds, let's see who pwns who |
| 13:52.35 | abbat_w | btw |
| 13:52.46 | abbat_w | my frag count is about 145k ;) |
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| 13:52.56 | Dynom | mine about 35k I think |
| 13:53.24 | Dynom | 37707 according to the armory |
| 13:53.43 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn dysun us thunderhorn cillex |
| 13:53.45 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Dysun vs Cillex! A L70 hunter and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/21/40 vs 5/45/11; Dysun wins by 525 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 13:54.09 | abbat_w | Lifetime Honorable Kills: 144709 |
| 13:54.10 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 13:54.11 | Thrae | Warlock PvP weights are -- HP=0.5,Mana=3,ManaRegen=0.5,MP5=3,Armour=0.25,Dodge=0.25,Resilience=5,SpellCrit=4,SpellDmg=4,SpellHit=0.5,ShadowDmg=5 |
| 13:54.26 | and | hmm |
| 13:54.28 | Cillex | !c us thunderhorn patton |
| 13:54.29 | ThraeBot | Sorry Cillex, you must wait 210 seconds before making another request. |
| 13:54.35 | abbat_w | Thrae, how about mages? |
| 13:54.41 | Dynom | !c us thunderhorn patton |
| 13:54.45 | ThraeBot | Dynom: Patton, Level 70 Human Paladin (43/18/0). 9867 HP; 10263 Mana; 113 mana regen; 14 mp5; 15191 Armour; 76.1 Melee DPS; 4.17% melee crit; 208 spell crit; 223 +spell dmg; 1598 +heal; 3.97% dodge; 5% block; 363 resilience;[[ TBR: 2300 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gvl8w ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c8bdv ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:05:15 2007 ]] |
| 13:54.58 | abbat_w | Heh |
| 13:55.05 | abbat_w | Patton looks like pvp paladin |
| 13:55.08 | Dynom | impressive spelldmg |
| 13:55.09 | Cillex | yep |
| 13:55.43 | Thrae | abbat_w: HP=1, Mana=3, ManaRegen=3, MP5=4, Armour/Dodge=0.25, Resilience=5, SpellCrit=5, SpellDmg=5, SpellHit=0.5, FrostDmg=5, FireDmg=5, ArcaneDmg=5 |
| 13:55.50 | Bayi | the bots data is from armory right ? |
| 13:55.58 | Thrae | Bayi: Yep |
| 13:56.07 | Bayi | !c eu Bloodscalp Bayi |
| 13:56.13 | ThraeBot | Bayi: Bayi, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (20/0/41). 7991 HP; 8835 Mana; 158 mana regen; 29 mp5; 75 spell crit; 97 spell hit; 899 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (953); 156 shadow dmg (1055); 6.18% dodge; 46 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2238 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywrafp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/398sn7 ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:06:42 2007 ]] |
| 13:56.44 | abbat_w | Thrae, mages don't have manaregen pvp gear and spirit gear. Only sta/int |
| 13:57.13 | abbat_w | btw |
| 13:57.18 | Thrae | abbat_w: Mages don't use MP/5 in PvP? |
| 13:57.19 | Dynom | doesn't matter, locks have a $result ^ 2 anyway |
| 13:57.34 | Dynom | no dps does regen in pvp |
| 13:57.37 | abbat_w | Thrae, just doesn't have any spirit hear |
| 13:58.19 | abbat_w | Only stamina and int as stats |
| 13:58.33 | abbat_w | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Warsong&n=Immoralist |
| 13:58.41 | abbat_w | you can look at this char |
| 13:58.42 | Corey | whats that arena command |
| 13:59.13 | abbat_w | geared in pvp gear (arena / pvp honor rewards / fraction rewards) |
| 13:59.17 | abbat_w | only 150 spirit |
| 14:00.08 | Cillex | !c us thunderhorn expiation |
| 14:00.12 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Expiation, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (8/0/53). 7064 HP; 8960 Mana; 311 mana regen; 93 mp5; 3.2% melee crit; 1238 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 51 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1744 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2euopf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36moda ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:54:02 2007 ]] |
| 14:00.18 | Punkie` | abbat_w: is there a day where you do not link your character in this channel? :P |
| 14:00.33 | Corey | nooo, now everyone knows how much i suck Cillex :( |
| 14:00.34 | Bayi | :) |
| 14:00.38 | abbat_w | Punkie, sure |
| 14:00.41 | Cillex | lol |
| 14:00.52 | Punkie` | hehe, is TBR updated?! |
| 14:01.14 | abbat_w | Ahaha ;) |
| 14:01.20 | Punkie` | !c eu Kazzak Punkie |
| 14:01.22 | abbat_w | Now i can beat Cillex ;) |
| 14:01.27 | ThraeBot | Punkie`: Punkie, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (41/20/0). 8864 HP; +10 Energy; 1795 AP; 396 Melee DPS; 28.48% melee crit; 254 melee hit; 27.36% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2881!! ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ysu26j ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v96cq ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:11:56 2007 ]] |
| 14:01.38 | Cillex | try |
| 14:01.40 | abbat_w | !vs eu warsong immoralist eu emeriss cillex |
| 14:01.41 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 14:01.42 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck. |
| 14:01.43 | Punkie` | nice i got !! |
| 14:01.53 | Corey | its us thunderhorn |
| 14:01.53 | Thrae | There's also #thraebot, btw |
| 14:01.58 | [Ammo] | !c eu Kazzak Ammo |
| 14:02.01 | Xinhuan | why is spellhit only worth 0.5 ;p |
| 14:02.03 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Ammo, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (42/2/17). 9040 HP; 9820 Mana; 107 mana regen; 102 spell crit; 109 spell hit; 1131 +spell dmg; 51 shadow dmg (1182); 4.47% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1843 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25urc2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nkcvm ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:12:33 2007 ]] |
| 14:02.06 | Corey | its like empty |
| 14:02.06 | abbat_w | !vs eu warsong immoralist eu emeriss cillex |
| 14:02.26 | Cillex | im on thunderhorn |
| 14:02.28 | Corey | !vs eu warsong immoralist us thunderhorn cillex |
| 14:02.28 | ThraeBot | Corey: immoralist vs cillex! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! cillex's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
| 14:02.30 | Cillex | it's us |
| 14:02.44 | Thrae | Xinhuan: It's not as important in PvP as it is in PvE |
| 14:02.52 | Xinhuan | so the rating is for pvp and not for pve? |
| 14:02.58 | [Ammo] | I think so |
| 14:03.03 | Thrae | Right now, yes |
| 14:03.26 | Cillex | !vs eu warsong immoralist us thunderhorn cillex |
| 14:03.27 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Immoralist vs Cillex! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/5/56 vs 5/45/11; Cillex wins by 414 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:03.27 | Corey | apparently Cillex can't fight you right now, hes busy climbing things and sticking toy soldiers in his nose |
| 14:03.30 | Punkie` | abbat_w would probably beat me :P |
| 14:03.41 | abbat_w | 1765 tbr |
| 14:04.09 | Xinhuan | not sure if i logged out in pvp gear or pve gear lol |
| 14:04.09 | Bayi | what is tbr ? |
| 14:04.20 | Xinhuan | !vs us blackrock xinhuan us thunderhorn cillex |
| 14:04.20 | abbat_w | thraebot rating |
| 14:04.21 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Xinhuan vs Cillex! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 48/13/0 vs 5/45/11; Xinhuan wins by 641 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:04.24 | Thrae | ~tbr |
| 14:04.25 | purl | [tbr] ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 14:04.32 | Bayi | ty :) |
| 14:04.43 | Dynom | ~pvp |
| 14:04.51 | Dynom | ~war |
| 14:04.51 | purl | rumour has it, war is the reasonable response of a nation forced to turn to the rest of the world for valuable energy resources but not wanting to deal fairly in an open marketplace with truly equal players |
| 14:04.55 | abbat_w | ~bwl |
| 14:04.56 | Xinhuan | i guess i own :) |
| 14:05.27 | Punkie` | !vs eu warsong immoralist vs kazzak punkie |
| 14:05.28 | Dynom | Xinhuan: by the time you start thinking that it means you are no longer no.1 |
| 14:05.33 | Corey | whats the command for calculating arena points Thrae? |
| 14:05.46 | Punkie` | damn |
| 14:05.49 | Cillex | dang Xinhuan |
| 14:05.55 | Punkie` | !vs eu warsong immoralist vs eu kazzak punkie |
| 14:05.55 | ThraeBot | Punkie`: vs vs punkie! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Someone trains Kazzak on the duel, killing punkie instantly. |
| 14:05.56 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-169-170.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 14:06.09 | Dynom | :P |
| 14:06.19 | Punkie` | didnt really get it but ok |
| 14:06.21 | Dynom | remove te 2nd 'vs' |
| 14:06.21 | abbat_w | !vs eu warsong immoralist eu kazzak punkie |
| 14:06.22 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: immoralist vs punkie! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! immoralist is really a keyboard turner, and his opponent simply walks off after it takes immoralist 5 minutes to face the right direction. Forfeit! |
| 14:06.40 | Punkie` | damn you got owned |
| 14:06.58 | Dynom | !vs eu dynom eu dynom |
| 14:07.00 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47769 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 14:07.00 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 14:07.00 | CIA-14 | - visual tweak |
| 14:07.09 | Dynom | :-{ |
| 14:07.15 | Dynom | !vs eu dynom eu Dynom |
| 14:07.19 | Dynom | -_- |
| 14:07.26 | Corey | server |
| 14:07.26 | Amadeo | My girlfriend is a keyboard turner :( |
| 14:07.31 | Dynom | sigh |
| 14:07.34 | abbat_w | turner.... |
| 14:07.34 | Bayi | !vs eu bloodscalp bayi eu bloodscalp absinte |
| 14:07.37 | ThraeBot | Bayi: Bayi vs Absinte! A L70 priest and a L70 warlock square off!; 20/0/41 vs 46/4/11; Bayi wins by 308 TBRs! |
| 14:07.38 | abbat_w | don't know this term |
| 14:07.39 | Dynom | !vs eu emeriss dynom emeriss Dynom |
| 14:07.44 | abbat_w | look at my dictionary now |
| 14:07.44 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@81-178-242-195.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 14:07.44 | Dynom | !vs eu emeriss dynom eu emeriss Dynom |
| 14:07.45 | ThraeBot | Dynom: Dynom vs Dynom! Two 70 warlocks square off!; It's a tie! Wow! (2268.8526412086 vs 2268.8526412086) |
| 14:07.58 | Punkie` | !vs us blackrock xinhuan vs eu kazzak punkie |
| 14:08.00 | ThraeBot | Punkie`: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:08.07 | abbat_w | ahha ;) |
| 14:08.10 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 14:08.12 | Punkie` | damn it i keep doing that |
| 14:08.16 | abbat_w | 'you half-fail' ;) |
| 14:08.17 | Punkie` | !vs us blackrock xinhuan eu kazzak punkie |
| 14:08.18 | ThraeBot | Punkie`: xinhuan vs punkie! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! xinhuan and punkie cannot hold their feelings for each other any longer, and start getting frisky. I suppose make love, not war? |
| 14:08.21 | Dynom | ye I keep forgetting the realms :P |
| 14:08.26 | Bayi | hehe i win against my alt lock :D |
| 14:08.33 | Corey | lol |
| 14:08.35 | Dynom | !vs eu emeriss Dynom eu emeriss Miraculix |
| 14:08.37 | ThraeBot | Dynom: Dynom vs Miraculix! A L70 warlock and a L70 mage square off!; 41/2/18 vs 41/20/0; Miraculix wins by 255 TBRs! |
| 14:08.42 | Gagorian | !c eu Al'Akir Gagorian |
| 14:08.43 | Dynom | WTF |
| 14:08.45 | Xinhuan | that's random |
| 14:08.46 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: Gagorian, Level 70 Orc Warlock (40/0/21). 9890 HP; 8725 Mana; 143 mana regen; 272 spell crit; 165 spell hit; 1087 +spell dmg; 111 frost dmg (1198); 111 shadow dmg (1198); 4.95% dodge; 37 shadow resist; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 1979 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yp3fao ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38keje ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:19:17 2007 ]] |
| 14:08.49 | Dynom | that noob can't even kill critters |
| 14:09.03 | Punkie` | !vs us blackrock xinhuan eu kazzak punkie |
| 14:09.04 | ThraeBot | Punkie`: Xinhuan vs Punkie! A L70 mage and a L70 rogue square off!; 48/13/0 vs 41/20/0; Punkie wins by 45 TBRs! |
| 14:09.12 | Punkie` | damn im awesome |
| 14:09.16 | Xinhuan | 45 lol |
| 14:09.20 | Xinhuan | i just need 45 more hp |
| 14:09.22 | Xinhuan | or 4 stam |
| 14:09.27 | Xinhuan | 5stam ;p |
| 14:09.30 | Bayi | Punkie: wanna try ? (eu bloodscalp) :D |
| 14:09.34 | Punkie` | ok |
| 14:09.41 | Punkie` | go do it |
| 14:09.59 | Bayi | !vs eu kazzak punkie eu bloodscalp bayi |
| 14:09.59 | ThraeBot | Bayi: Punkie vs Bayi! A L70 rogue and a L70 priest square off!; 41/20/0 vs 20/0/41; Punkie wins by 626 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:10.03 | Bayi | pff |
| 14:10.08 | Punkie` | !vs eu kazzak surly eu kazzak punkie |
| 14:10.10 | ThraeBot | Punkie`: Surly vs Punkie! Two 70 rogues square off!; 15/41/5 vs 41/20/0; Surly wins by 142 TBRs! |
| 14:10.18 | abbat_w | 41/20/0 vs 20/0/41 ;( |
| 14:10.18 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47770 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 14:10.18 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 14:10.18 | CIA-14 | - lines placement tweak |
| 14:10.21 | *** join/#wowace _art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 14:10.23 | abbat_w | :)))) |
| 14:10.25 | Punkie` | damn his talents :D |
| 14:10.32 | Corey | !c eu kazzak punkie |
| 14:10.37 | ThraeBot | Corey: Punkie, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (41/20/0). 8864 HP; +10 Energy; 1795 AP; 396 Melee DPS; 28.48% melee crit; 254 melee hit; 27.36% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2881!! ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yu8w52 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wl3b9 ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:11:56 2007 ]] |
| 14:10.52 | Bayi | 12 resi hmm :D |
| 14:10.54 | Amadeo | what is a TBR? |
| 14:10.59 | abbat_w | ~tbr |
| 14:11.00 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 14:11.04 | Amadeo | lol |
| 14:11.07 | Bayi | :DD |
| 14:11.10 | abbat_w | ahah ;) |
| 14:11.11 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 14:11.18 | Thrae | Crap |
| 14:11.34 | abbat_w | Breaking news! Read all! tbr is ThraeBotRating... ;) |
| 14:11.38 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (i=kenlyric@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 14:12.13 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 14:12.13 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 14:12.35 | Corey | what language did you code that in? |
| 14:12.36 | Gagorian | uhh. That TBR seems awfully high for rogues compared to warlocks? |
| 14:12.52 | mort|work | !c eu alleria Shyet |
| 14:12.58 | ThraeBot | mort|work: Shyet, Level 70 Draenei Priest (13/0/48). 7441 HP; 6645 Mana; 133 mana regen; 25 mp5; 161 spell crit; 98 spell hit; 877 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (1110); 335 shadow dmg (1212); 4.86% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1893 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yupcph ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/376uww ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:23:27 2007 ]] |
| 14:13.00 | Amadeo | That's because Rogues rock and Warlocks suck! |
| 14:13.03 | Amadeo | ohhh! |
| 14:13.03 | Corey | well they have cloak of shadows |
| 14:13.25 | Thrae | Gagorian: When comparing TBRs, you compare them vs the same class, not different classes, because during !vs, stats are weighted differently vs other classes. |
| 14:13.42 | Gagorian | Alright |
| 14:13.46 | Xinhuan | TBR = Thrae's Biased Rating :) |
| 14:14.11 | Gagorian | :D |
| 14:14.16 | kadrahil | i actually was wondering what tbr is |
| 14:14.30 | Amadeo | I already asked for you |
| 14:14.33 | Amadeo | look above! |
| 14:14.38 | kadrahil | oh, ok |
| 14:14.41 | Thrae | I just fixed a bug with Warlocks, Mages, and Priests -- Armour and Dodge rating was -always- being taken into account, even vs casters |
| 14:14.53 | Amadeo | See, I wasn't asking for myself...I was asking in anticipation of kadrahil...I already knew! |
| 14:15.33 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn sufferingz us thunderhorn cillex |
| 14:15.37 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Sufferingz vs Cillex! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/8/53 vs 5/45/11; Cillex wins by 510 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:15.45 | Corey | thats about right, suff is a noob |
| 14:15.50 | Cillex | haha |
| 14:15.55 | kadrahil | lol |
| 14:16.04 | kadrahil | !vs us stormreaver kadrahil vs stormreaver cryect |
| 14:16.15 | kadrahil | !vs us stormreaver kadrahil us stormreaver cryect |
| 14:16.15 | ThraeBot | kadrahil: kadrahil vs cryect! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! kadrahil wins by 8658278 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 14:16.22 | kadrahil | LOL |
| 14:16.31 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo (i=bsm89mod@084202183120.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 14:16.31 | Gagorian | :D |
| 14:16.33 | Amadeo | wtf |
| 14:16.37 | Pkekyo | g'mornin all |
| 14:16.40 | Bayi | second vs isnt needed |
| 14:16.40 | kadrahil | Cryect: duel me now |
| 14:16.42 | Corey | hi Pkekyo |
| 14:16.43 | Cillex | hi Pkekyo |
| 14:16.44 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-135-171.student.uu.se) |
| 14:16.46 | kadrahil | Bayi: oh |
| 14:17.02 | Xinhuan | is that a bug? :P |
| 14:17.03 | Pkekyo | anything fun happened yet? |
| 14:17.03 | Pkekyo | patch released maybe? |
| 14:17.03 | kadrahil | !vs us stormreaver kadrahil stormreaver cryect |
| 14:17.17 | *** join/#wowace Thiana (n=Thiana@c-24-147-41-254.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 14:17.25 | Thrae | kadrahil: Forgot second us/eu |
| 14:17.27 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn expiation us thunderhorn crowdin |
| 14:17.29 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Expiation vs Crowdin! A L70 druid and a L70 priest square off!; 8/0/53 vs 5/0/56; Expiation wins by 310 TBRs! |
| 14:17.31 | Corey | by the time they release that nobody will remember what it was about |
| 14:17.35 | kadrahil | Thrae: well, it didn't say anything that time |
| 14:17.50 | Thrae | Right now it's not smart enough to say anything for that :D |
| 14:17.51 | Pkekyo | !vs eu bloodfeather baesj eu bloodfeather gretzog |
| 14:17.52 | Corey | pff maybe after 8 hours id win |
| 14:17.54 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F55644.versanet.de) |
| 14:17.54 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj vs Gretzog! Two 70 warriors square off!; Baesj wins by 433 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:17.56 | Corey | id quit way before that |
| 14:18.03 | Cillex | 45 mins later |
| 14:18.05 | Pkekyo | what is a TBR? |
| 14:18.11 | kadrahil | heh seriously |
| 14:18.21 | Pkekyo | ~TBR |
| 14:18.22 | purl | well, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 14:18.30 | kadrahil | Cryect = http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Cryect |
| 14:18.37 | kadrahil | vs me = http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil |
| 14:18.38 | kadrahil | :D |
| 14:19.05 | Thrae | !co eu bloodfeather baesj eu bloodfeather gretzog |
| 14:19.05 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Baesj vs Gretzog! Two 70 warriors square off!; Gretzog +53 melee hit; Gretzog +1.83% dodge; Baesj +10 nature resist; Baesj +158 AP; Gretzog +0.93% melee crit; Baesj +73 resilience; Baesj +952 HP; Baesj +20 Armour; Gretzog +10.2 Melee DPS; Baesj has 11% more stats then Gretzog. |
| 14:19.15 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn expiation us thunderhorn nexis |
| 14:19.17 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Expiation vs Nexis! Expiation has +27 lvls on Nexis (70 vs 43); A L70 druid and a L43 paladin square off!; 8/0/53 vs 34/0/0; Expiation wins by 1457 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:19.23 | kadrahil | Cryect: wow, that's a lot of SR |
| 14:19.39 | Corey | id cry if ur 43 beat me |
| 14:20.10 | Corey | !vs us thunderhorn alexiana us thunderhorn nexis |
| 14:20.10 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn expiation us thunderhorn kanibal |
| 14:20.11 | ThraeBot | Corey: Alexiana vs Nexis! Alexiana has +4 lvls on Nexis (47 vs 43); A L47 rogue and a L43 paladin square off!; 0/38/0 vs 34/0/0; Alexiana wins by 854 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:20.12 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Expiation vs Kanibal! Expiation has +16 lvls on Kanibal (70 vs 54); A L70 druid and a L54 warrior square off!; 8/0/53 vs 37/7/1; Expiation wins by 1140 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:20.41 | Corey | pff i want to see it says the paladin is scared and bubble hearths away |
| 14:20.59 | Cillex | oh |
| 14:21.00 | Cillex | um |
| 14:21.04 | Pkekyo | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=612762575&sid=2&pageNo=2#24 :> |
| 14:21.15 | Cillex | chad and me tested to see if the priest's mass dispell removes the pally's bubble and it does |
| 14:21.25 | Corey | told ya |
| 14:21.32 | Amadeo | It always has |
| 14:21.41 | Corey | !vs us thunderhorn conviction us thunderhorn kanibal |
| 14:21.43 | ThraeBot | Corey: Conviction vs Kanibal! Kanibal has +3 lvls on Conviction (51 vs 54); A L51 priest and a L54 warrior square off!; 0/0/42 vs 37/7/1; Kanibal wins by 1157 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:21.53 | Cillex | it says the pally is immune but it gets removed still |
| 14:22.29 | winkiller | doesnt it work in query? |
| 14:22.35 | Thrae | Yes it does. |
| 14:22.43 | Corey | nice |
| 14:22.43 | winkiller | or is itt so slow? :D |
| 14:22.48 | Corey | now we can stop floodin the chan |
| 14:23.09 | Cillex | hah |
| 14:23.17 | Cillex | reported |
| 14:23.21 | winkiller | my bad |
| 14:23.25 | *** join/#wowace yssaril (n=chatzill@adsl-76-238-5-53.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:23.36 | omega | !vs eu ravencrest horlaine eu ravencrest congress |
| 14:23.41 | ThraeBot | omega: Horlaine vs Congress! Congress has +1 lvls on Horlaine (69 vs 70); A L69 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/0/60 vs 0/21/40; Congress wins by 841 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:23.42 | Corey | congress |
| 14:23.44 | Corey | i hope that dies |
| 14:23.46 | winkiller | LOL thrae. But wait, what's this?! banathor wins by 7488571 TBRs! |
| 14:23.56 | winkiller | how is that possible? 2 lvl 70s |
| 14:24.22 | omega | !vs eu ravencrest horlaine eu ravencrest mabl |
| 14:24.25 | ThraeBot | omega: Horlaine vs Mabl! Mabl has +1 lvls on Horlaine (69 vs 70); A L69 mage and a L70 druid square off!; 0/0/60 vs 0/49/11; Mabl wins by 1167 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:24.29 | Gagorian | !vs eu Al'Akir Nemeles eu Al'Akir Gagorian |
| 14:24.35 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: Nemeles vs Gagorian! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 0/21/40 vs 40/0/21; Nemeles wins by 248 TBRs! |
| 14:24.44 | Gagorian | o rly now |
| 14:24.52 | omega | !vs eu ravencrest congress eu ravencrest mabl |
| 14:24.53 | ThraeBot | omega: Congress vs Mabl! A L70 warlock and a L70 druid square off!; 0/21/40 vs 0/49/11; Mabl wins by 341 TBRs! |
| 14:24.58 | Gagorian | destro wins affliction? I don't think so :D |
| 14:25.15 | Amadeo | Depends on gear and skill |
| 14:25.15 | alext | dude you guys are awsome with ThraeBot |
| 14:25.16 | Corey | whats ur char Thrae |
| 14:25.19 | omega | ~TBR |
| 14:25.20 | purl | rumour has it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 14:25.23 | alext | who actually owns ThraeBot |
| 14:25.25 | alext | ? |
| 14:25.33 | Amadeo | Guess |
| 14:25.37 | alext | Thrae? |
| 14:25.39 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn alexiana us thunderhorn kemikal |
| 14:25.39 | Corey | yes |
| 14:25.39 | ThraeBot | Cillex: alexiana vs kemikal! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! kemikal wins by 3973034 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 14:25.40 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 14:25.41 | alext | lol |
| 14:25.46 | *** join/#wowace Adys (i=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-134-239.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:25.47 | Stan__ | uuuh |
| 14:25.56 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn alexiana us thunderhorn kemikal |
| 14:25.56 | ThraeBot | Cillex: alexiana vs kemikal! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! alexiana and kemikal cannot hold their feelings for each other any longer, and start getting frisky. I suppose make love, not war? |
| 14:26.03 | Corey | lol |
| 14:26.09 | *** join/#wowace Deathra (n=nnscript@ppp156-222.dsl.hol.gr) |
| 14:26.14 | Corey | u heard him |
| 14:26.15 | Cillex | WORK IT BAYBEE |
| 14:26.17 | Corey | turn on ur cam corey |
| 14:26.28 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn alexiana us thunderhorn kemikal |
| 14:26.32 | ThraeBot | Cillex: Alexiana vs Kemikal! Alexiana has +9 lvls on Kemikal (47 vs 38); A L47 rogue and a L38 shaman square off!; 0/38/0 vs 0/29/0; Alexiana wins by 1098 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:26.53 | Neebler | !vs us black dragonflight neebler us black dragonflight jagmohan |
| 14:26.53 | ThraeBot | Neebler: neebler vs jagmohan! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! neebler and jagmohan cannot hold their feelings for each other any longer, and start getting frisky. I suppose make love, not war? |
| 14:26.57 | alext | !vs us dark iron voln us dark iron phaded |
| 14:27.01 | ThraeBot | alext: Voln vs Phaded! A L70 warlock and a L70 hunter square off!; 41/0/20 vs 41/20/0; Phaded wins by 509 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:27.01 | Corey | its all in the mace stun, it makes up for me not having any skill |
| 14:27.07 | Neebler | errr uhhh |
| 14:27.15 | Amadeo | You're mace spec at 47? |
| 14:27.25 | Corey | sadly i am |
| 14:27.28 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 14:27.33 | kadrahil | yay for having to edit php code on the live server |
| 14:27.36 | kadrahil | :O |
| 14:27.40 | alext | bleh gota do one more vs |
| 14:27.42 | Neebler | !commands |
| 14:27.46 | alext | !vs us dark iron voln us dark iron swinglow |
| 14:27.47 | Neebler | !thraebot help |
| 14:27.49 | ThraeBot | alext: Voln vs Swinglow! A L70 warlock and a L70 warrior square off!; 41/0/20 vs 3/43/15; Swinglow wins by 617 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:28.00 | Neebler | !help |
| 14:28.14 | Pkekyo | http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4651/wowscrnshot082707160048dn2.jpg <--- what chat frames are those? |
| 14:28.24 | Corey | i wonder if that takes CC into account |
| 14:28.32 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: I dunno, but they're sprouting plants |
| 14:28.34 | winkiller | what unitframes is that` |
| 14:28.41 | vithos | kadrahil: 15 agi is going to be cheaper when the patch hits, and i've never played survival |
| 14:28.53 | kadrahil | vithos: ahh, ok |
| 14:28.55 | Gagorian | Affliction warlocks seem severely underpowered in those vs. fights |
| 14:29.07 | alext | yah |
| 14:29.18 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: plans? sprouting? wth |
| 14:29.22 | Pkekyo | plants* |
| 14:29.28 | winkiller | the image |
| 14:29.33 | winkiller | Pkekyo: where was it posted? |
| 14:29.55 | Neebler | winkiller: PitBull no doubt |
| 14:30.16 | Pkekyo | winkiller: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=07BA4A30348A8F22FB631397D1D1A00A.app09_01?topicId=612762575&sid=2&pageNo=1 |
| 14:30.19 | Neebler | pkekyo: dreamchat I'm thinking |
| 14:30.24 | winkiller | thx |
| 14:30.42 | Amadeo | they're nice looking unit frames |
| 14:31.03 | Corey | !vs us thunderhorn expiation us thunderhorn romir |
| 14:31.07 | ThraeBot | Corey: Expiation vs Romir! A L70 druid and a L70 warrior square off!; 8/0/53 vs 11/7/43; Romir wins by 628 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:31.15 | Corey | pff, lies |
| 14:31.41 | kadrahil | vithos: i only lack shoulders and legs from being epicced out now :/ |
| 14:31.52 | kadrahil | vithos: got a thick netherscale breastplate made |
| 14:32.02 | Corey | unless hes not prot anymore |
| 14:32.04 | *** join/#wowace erb (i=erb@redruth.greenbean.org) |
| 14:32.08 | Corey | !c us thunderhorn romir |
| 14:32.12 | ThraeBot | Corey: Romir, Level 70 Human Warrior (11/7/43). 16214 HP; 17388 Armour; 790 AP; 142.5 Melee DPS; 14.34% melee crit; 57 melee hit; 13 +spell dmg/heal; 310 defense; 23.2% dodge; 30.88% block; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 2307 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywdbnu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38rtvc ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:41:40 2007 ]] |
| 14:32.51 | Neebler | !c us black dragonflight neebler |
| 14:32.57 | ThraeBot | Neebler: Neebler, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (19/42/0). 10094 HP; 1572 AP; 357.4 Melee DPS; 24.6% melee crit; 130 melee hit; 21.01% dodge; 225 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 3158!! ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29k8w7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2t26at ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:43:26 2007 ]] |
| 14:33.03 | Corey | somethins not right in that calculation |
| 14:33.07 | Corey | theres no way he could beat me |
| 14:33.15 | cc-work | !c us mal'ganis prophy |
| 14:33.20 | ThraeBot | cc-work: Prophy, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (20/41/0). 11284 HP; 3664 Armour; 1268 AP; 329.3 Melee DPS; 27.2% melee crit; 46 melee hit; 23.41% dodge; 449 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 3218!! ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gfd9n ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lpfzt ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:43:50 2007 ]] |
| 14:34.02 | *** join/#wowace [Liq] (n=denras19@130.225.247.36) |
| 14:34.06 | xyu | !vs us sargeras xyu us sargeras gabimag |
| 14:34.06 | ThraeBot | xyu: xyu vs gabimag! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! xyu wins by 2328940 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 14:34.29 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, do you know what was used to create the minimap flower? |
| 14:34.34 | xyu | !vs us sargeras xyu us sargeras gabimag |
| 14:34.34 | ThraeBot | xyu: xyu vs gabimag! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! gabimag wins by 4887581 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 14:34.37 | xyu | bah |
| 14:34.42 | erb | !vs us dark iron phaded us dark iron voln |
| 14:34.43 | ThraeBot | erb: Phaded vs Voln! A L70 hunter and a L70 warlock square off!; 41/20/0 vs 41/0/20; Phaded wins by 509 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:34.43 | Cillex | !vs us thunderhorn illidan stormrage us thunderhorn shade of akama |
| 14:34.45 | ThraeBot | Cillex: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 14:34.48 | erb | rofl |
| 14:34.50 | Cillex | lawl |
| 14:35.01 | cncfanatics | !c eu bronze dragonflight cncfanatics |
| 14:35.06 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Cncfanatics, Level 70 Undead Mage (18/42/1). 6823 HP; 8816 Mana; 203 mana regen; 72 mp5; 142 spell crit; 50 spell hit; 599 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10); +10 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 1479 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xlrry ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36zmhc ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 10:45:36 2007 ]] |
| 14:35.20 | Neebler | Hjalte: make or edit a picture, such as that flower image. Then use eepanels to apply it in-game |
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| 14:35.33 | xyu | !vs us sargeras xyu us sargeras gabimag |
| 14:35.36 | ThraeBot | xyu: Xyu vs Gabimag! Two 70 mages square off!; 0/0/61 vs 37/24/0; Gabimag wins by 600 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 14:35.38 | xyu | what's a minimap flower? |
| 14:35.49 | Hjalte | Neebler. Meh. Will never be able to make such a nice image :( |
| 14:36.05 | kadrahil | xyu: something minimaps give each other when they're twitterpating? |
| 14:36.11 | xyu | i think so |
| 14:36.12 | Nickenyfiken_ | !vs eu Outland Trollfager eu Outland Isa |
| 14:36.15 | ThraeBot | Nickenyfiken_: Trollfager vs Isa! A L70 shaman and a L70 priest square off!; 0/42/19 vs 21/40/0; Trollfager wins by 85 TBRs! |
| 14:36.17 | erb | !vs us nazjatar balsimar us dark iron voln |
| 14:36.18 | ThraeBot | erb: Balsimar vs Voln! A L70 paladin and a L70 warlock square off!; 50/11/0 vs 41/0/20; Balsimar wins by 3 TBRs! |
| 14:36.18 | xyu | minimaps in love! |
| 14:36.22 | erb | HEHEH |
| 14:36.22 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 14:36.23 | kadrahil | :O |
| 14:36.23 | erb | dood |
| 14:36.27 | erb | u got owned by a fucking prot pally |
| 14:36.35 | erb | that hasnt logged in since april |
| 14:36.36 | Wobin_ | can you abuse ThraeBot in privmsgs? |
| 14:36.45 | Corey | yes |
| 14:36.49 | erb | prot/holy |
| 14:36.50 | erb | whatever |
| 14:36.51 | Wobin_ | Please do =P |
| 14:36.53 | erb | its still a pally |
| 14:36.53 | erb | heh |
| 14:37.16 | Corey | thrae said its got a chan for itself too #thraebot |
| 14:37.46 | erb | !vs us nazjatar drcuddles us dark iron voln |
| 14:37.48 | ThraeBot | erb: Drcuddles vs Voln! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 23/38/0 vs 41/0/20; Drcuddles wins by 210 TBRs! |
| 14:37.56 | erb | damn voln u just can't win |
| 14:38.12 | erb | i'll stop spamming up the channel now. just wanted to make fun of voln |
| 14:39.10 | Ominous | rofl :) |
| 14:39.29 | Xinhuan | !vs us blackrock xinhuan eu bronze dragonflight cncfanatics |
| 14:39.32 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Xinhuan vs Cncfanatics! Two 70 mages square off!; 48/13/0 vs 18/42/1; Xinhuan wins by 1327 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:39.41 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 14:40.58 | [Liq] | Anyone know of an addon for assigning healing tasks? |
| 14:41.10 | Xinhuan | why is there 1 point in the frost tree cncfanatics? lol |
| 14:41.11 | winkiller | /ra |
| 14:41.46 | erb | lol |
| 14:41.51 | erb | my mage has 3 points in frost |
| 14:41.55 | erb | though he's only level 12 :( |
| 14:42.45 | [Liq] | Why would you go frost with leveling? |
| 14:42.45 | alext | yah uhm |
| 14:42.45 | Hjalte | [Liq], acebuffgroups on files.wowace.com |
| 14:42.51 | alext | thats funny that a holy paladin that has barely any epics |
| 14:42.56 | alext | would beat a epiced out affliction lock |
| 14:43.05 | erb | is that a real question, liq? |
| 14:43.23 | erb | so much wise assery on the wow forums today im not sure |
| 14:43.27 | erb | i dunno what way i wanan go honestly |
| 14:43.31 | erb | but frost will get me more control |
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| 14:45.08 | [Liq] | nah I'm not an ass like some others |
| 14:45.33 | [Liq] | But fire will definately be faster |
| 14:45.52 | erb | yah? |
| 14:46.10 | erb | i like pewpewpew |
| 14:46.12 | erb | killing shit asap |
| 14:46.26 | [Liq] | Hjalte, I meant healing assignments, not buffing |
| 14:46.31 | erb | i leveled my first mage fire but that was like 2 years ago |
| 14:46.36 | erb | so i have no idea what the trees are like now |
| 14:47.01 | erb | im kinda thinking i'm giong to delete and reroll gnome though |
| 14:47.06 | erb | he's a draenie |
| 14:47.17 | [Liq] | fire is still the thing for leveling, ofc you can go frost but you wont be anle to 2-3 shoot your mobs and mana effiency doesn't matter before 25+ |
| 14:47.19 | erb | dunno if gotn/1% hit > EA if he's just going to be apvp toon |
| 14:47.34 | erb | good point liq |
| 14:48.04 | [Liq] | my best leveling time was in wetlands when I could 3 shoot murlocs just above menethil harbor |
| 14:48.07 | [Liq] | I never forget that |
| 14:48.12 | [Liq] | fastest levels I ever did |
| 14:49.02 | erb | 20-30? |
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| 14:55.02 | mitch01 | I leveled my main as frost. no problems there |
| 14:55.14 | erb | im still up in the air |
| 14:55.21 | erb | i like cold snap |
| 14:55.22 | kadrahil | http://people.cc.jyu.fi/~ilrepo/crap/fail/fail3.jpg |
| 14:55.24 | erb | but i like big pewpew |
| 14:55.24 | kadrahil | hahah |
| 14:55.30 | mitch01 | I like pie :) |
| 14:55.32 | Thrae | Damn this ThraeBot !vs crap has a complex algorithm |
| 14:55.36 | erb | haha |
| 14:55.46 | vithos | some weeks ago, somebody linked an autohotkey script that had some performance enhancing stuff in it. anybody remember who that was? :) |
| 14:55.59 | mitch01 | thrae: can't it do it via /msg? I tried it and it just keeps silent |
| 14:56.02 | mitch01 | ah |
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| 14:56.48 | mitch0 | oh, is it just some random crap? |
| 14:57.14 | Thrae | mitch0: Not unless it says "but what's this?!" |
| 15:01.58 | CIA-14 | 03bayi * r47771 10beql/ (beql.toc extra/questhistory.lua extra/questhistory.xml): beql: - QuestHistory: Added questhistory frame scratch |
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| 15:07.01 | kadrahil | hmm |
| 15:07.12 | kadrahil | does the minor speed increase meta gem stack with the minor speed increase boot enchant? |
| 15:07.21 | vithos | no |
| 15:07.29 | kadrahil | heh |
| 15:07.37 | [Liq] | ckknight, ping |
| 15:07.47 | vithos | cat's swiftness + relentless earthstorm diamond for me |
| 15:08.11 | kadrahil | vithos: yeah i have the relentless, i got 12 agi to boots.. i didn't have enough for cat's swiftness |
| 15:08.27 | kadrahil | everything i've farmed lately has gone to levelling JC |
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| 15:09.11 | Bayi | yea JC takes a lot gold :) |
| 15:09.17 | vithos | i've finally run out of gold too :( going to have to farm again for a few weeks |
| 15:09.24 | kadrahil | yup |
| 15:09.49 | kadrahil | i can't bring myself to farm for my epic flyer :/ |
| 15:10.15 | Bayi | i had 3k g, i was never so near to my epic flying mount, then my mage hit 70 and he needed some crafted stuff.. now i have 500g :( |
| 15:10.15 | Xinhuan | i make about 500g everyday sitting in IF ;p |
| 15:10.17 | Amadeo | Don't worry, you can't fly in WotLK until level 78 |
| 15:10.25 | vithos | i got mine, and had 1500g left over before i stopped farming completely, which lasted me a long time |
| 15:10.54 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: auctioneer? |
| 15:11.11 | Xinhuan | 300g of that comes from prospecting ore i buy from the AH |
| 15:11.18 | Xinhuan | 200g of that comes from selling JC cuts and Enchants |
| 15:11.24 | Xinhuan | since i have every recipe/cut/formula |
| 15:11.26 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: yeah, i need to get to that point |
| 15:11.48 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: i need to get a loan to powerlevel my JC to 375 so i can pay it off |
| 15:11.54 | Xinhuan | i'm saying that prospecting purchased ore earns MORE than anything else |
| 15:12.12 | Xinhuan | and i just afk in IF and write lua ;p |
| 15:12.21 | Bayi | ^^ |
| 15:12.43 | Xinhuan | adamantite ore goes for 28g a stack on my server |
| 15:12.46 | Bayi | i need a 375 JC character too ! :) |
| 15:12.51 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: ouch |
| 15:12.54 | Xinhuan | and rare gems are between 20-70g |
| 15:13.04 | Xinhuan | elunes are 70g, talasites are 20 |
| 15:13.08 | Xinhuan | living rubies are about 50 |
| 15:13.28 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: does adamantite guarantee a rare gem every prospect? or do you get greens sometimes? |
| 15:13.34 | Gagorian | rare gems pff.. epics! |
| 15:13.35 | Xinhuan | u get a green 100% |
| 15:13.42 | Xinhuan | and a blue about 23% of the time |
| 15:13.50 | Xinhuan | according to my last 8923 prospects (about 40k ore) |
| 15:14.07 | Bayi | pff |
| 15:14.22 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: so you usually get a blue out of every stack of ore? |
| 15:14.27 | Xinhuan | that's the average yes |
| 15:14.32 | kadrahil | not bad |
| 15:14.49 | Xinhuan | but the reason why it is profitable on my server is because there are 48 guilds in SSC/TK |
| 15:15.00 | Xinhuan | about 30 on alliance 20 on horde |
| 15:15.01 | xyu` | hmm |
| 15:15.03 | xyu` | http://techgage.com/article/logitech_g9_laser_gaming_mouse/2 |
| 15:15.15 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: wow |
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| 15:15.29 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: we don't have nearly that many on stormreaver |
| 15:15.29 | Amadeo | xyu`: That looks horrible |
| 15:15.38 | Xinhuan | yeah gem demand is high |
| 15:15.40 | xyu` | it doesn't look very comfortable |
| 15:15.42 | Xinhuan | but population is also high |
| 15:15.49 | xyu` | but i'd like to give it a try |
| 15:15.54 | [Liq] | ckknight, http://wow-cdn1.incgamers.com/craid1_20061213.JPG --- thought you would want to see this one :) |
| 15:15.55 | Bayi | G15 roxx :D |
| 15:16.04 | Amadeo | xyu`: Razer announced a 4000dpi one also, on their site |
| 15:16.08 | pastamancer | heh, there's 4 guilds on my server horde-side in ssc/tk |
| 15:16.11 | xyu` | i hate razer tho |
| 15:16.12 | xyu` | always have |
| 15:16.22 | pastamancer | what server are you on Xinhuan? |
| 15:16.26 | Xinhuan | us blackrock |
| 15:16.31 | Xinhuan | bloodlust bg |
| 15:16.42 | Xinhuan | same server as nurfed/eminence |
| 15:16.43 | Amadeo | xyu`: I think they all have their faults, my Logitech mouse has some issues |
| 15:16.50 | pastamancer | well, now I know where to transfer to when durotan finally implodes |
| 15:16.53 | xyu` | i played w/ nurfed |
| 15:16.54 | Xinhuan | in fact nurfed transferred to my server 9 months ago |
| 15:16.55 | xyu` | for forever |
| 15:16.58 | xyu` | they used to be on my server :P |
| 15:17.05 | xyu` | and i was also w/ them in shadowbane |
| 15:17.22 | Xinhuan | we blackrockians still do not consider them as native BR |
| 15:17.30 | xyu` | nope |
| 15:17.35 | Xinhuan | since we have a "blackrock is full! gtfo" policy to every transfer in |
| 15:17.35 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 15:17.45 | kadrahil | :X |
| 15:17.46 | Amadeo | every server does that, even the empty ones |
| 15:17.54 | xyu` | also nurfed has had so many member changes its not really nurfed to me anymore :P |
| 15:18.00 | art3mis | Xinhuan: thats what she said! |
| 15:18.02 | xyu` | i mean the core have all moved on i believe |
| 15:18.11 | art3mis | nurfed is emo! |
| 15:18.17 | xyu` | sup art :P |
| 15:18.26 | art3mis | and i say this because any guild that has an online marriage HAS to be |
| 15:18.33 | art3mis | it's simple fact |
| 15:18.42 | art3mis | heya xyu |
| 15:19.05 | xyu` | i met a few of them at walmart when the game was released @ midnight. heh |
| 15:19.53 | Amadeo | I guess Nurfed is like the Fires of Heaven of EQ |
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| 15:22.48 | Xinhuan | nurfed killed illidan today i think |
| 15:22.51 | kadrahil | any clue how much more gold it would take me to level from 220 to 375 JC? |
| 15:22.52 | Xinhuan | someone mentioned it |
| 15:22.54 | art3mis | did you kick them in the shins and demand thier dignity back? |
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| 15:22.59 | kadrahil | for those of you JC'ers |
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| 15:23.09 | Xinhuan | it was free for me since |
| 15:23.14 | Xinhuan | i already had the mats |
| 15:23.17 | Xinhuan | and just cut gems free |
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| 15:23.38 | Xinhuan | for guildies |
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| 15:23.53 | Xinhuan | oh it costed about 5k gold to buy all 33 recipes or something too |
| 15:23.58 | kadrahil | yeah, i'm just interested in powerlevelling it so i can start prospecting |
| 15:24.00 | kadrahil | ouch! |
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| 15:24.15 | Xinhuan | i started with 11k gold entering tbc, reached near 0 collecting everything |
| 15:24.20 | Xinhuan | then went back up to like 60k |
| 15:24.37 | kadrahil | wow |
| 15:24.55 | Xinhuan | i made 10k gold per day on patch 2.1 day |
| 15:24.59 | Xinhuan | for the first 2 days |
| 15:25.09 | Bayi | ?? |
| 15:25.09 | xyu` | i want some, i have like 2000 and no epic mount |
| 15:25.10 | Xinhuan | because everyone hoarded arena points |
| 15:25.16 | Xinhuan | for season 2 gear |
| 15:25.20 | Xinhuan | and the day patch came out |
| 15:25.28 | Xinhuan | i had about 40 of every rare gem for sale |
| 15:25.34 | Xinhuan | plus selling every enchant possible left and right |
| 15:25.34 | Bayi | :) |
| 15:25.38 | Bayi | the business man ^^ |
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| 15:25.53 | Bayi | i made some cash on 2.1 with mana potions |
| 15:25.56 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: seriously man, jeez |
| 15:25.59 | evl | Anyway to hook or override BonusActionBarFrame:IsShown ? |
| 15:26.00 | Amadeo | Xinhuan: What server are you on? I'm gonna roll there and borrow about 30k |
| 15:26.11 | Bayi | buyed up every stack dreaming glory pre 2.1 and sold them as potions post 2.1 |
| 15:26.15 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: i can't freaking understand how people make so much gold |
| 15:26.21 | Xinhuan | prospecting is the key |
| 15:26.23 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: all i know to do is farm primals or mine |
| 15:26.27 | Xinhuan | see, 6 stacks of ore |
| 15:26.30 | Xinhuan | costs 28x6 |
| 15:26.32 | durcyn | nerf jewelcrafting. |
| 15:26.38 | Xinhuan | that's 168 |
| 15:26.46 | Xinhuan | but from the 6 stacks you get an avg of one of each rare gem |
| 15:26.53 | Xinhuan | that's 20+30+40+40+50+70 |
| 15:26.56 | xyu` | Yeah we used to have a mage in my guild during MC days before BWL attunement even came out that would randomly walk up to you and put 11k gold in the trade window. |
| 15:26.56 | Xinhuan | statistically that is |
| 15:27.03 | Xinhuan | that's 250 |
| 15:27.11 | kadrahil | xyu`: haha |
| 15:27.17 | Xinhuan | so every 6 stacks of ore, statistically i profit 90g just from the rare gems |
| 15:27.24 | Xinhuan | not counting the green gems or powder yet |
| 15:27.31 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: not bad. |
| 15:27.33 | xyu` | he worked the AH back before auctioneer and that crap |
| 15:27.48 | Xinhuan | so i just buy about 30 stacks a day |
| 15:27.55 | Xinhuan | and that's my 500g daily |
| 15:28.17 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: what level is required to prospect adamantite? |
| 15:28.22 | Xinhuan | 325? |
| 15:28.23 | kadrahil | i'm guessing 350 |
| 15:28.25 | kadrahil | oh |
| 15:28.27 | xyu` | Ore on my server is ridiculously overpriced |
| 15:28.27 | Xinhuan | not sure |
| 15:28.28 | xyu` | ALL ore |
| 15:28.34 | Amadeo | Copper!? |
| 15:28.34 | xyu` | iron goes for like 20g a stack. lol |
| 15:28.39 | kadrahil | haha |
| 15:28.42 | kadrahil | dude. |
| 15:28.46 | Xinhuan | fel iron ore was also really good until they nerfed the vendor price of the green gems |
| 15:28.55 | Xinhuan | see, fel iron ore costs 10g per stack on my server on the AH |
| 15:28.57 | Amadeo | xyu`: Maybe you can sell Coal on the AH for like 20g a stack :P |
| 15:29.04 | xyu` | lol |
| 15:29.07 | Xinhuan | but prospecting that stack avgs you 5 green gems |
| 15:29.18 | Xinhuan | before vendor price nerf, 1 green gem = 1g to vendor |
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| 15:29.29 | Xinhuan | so that's a gauranteed 5g + 70s from powder |
| 15:29.41 | Xinhuan | plus you can cut the green gems and put on AH |
| 15:29.46 | Xinhuan | so its really about 8g |
| 15:29.50 | Xinhuan | so in buying fel iron ore |
| 15:29.57 | Xinhuan | i am paying about a 2g risk to get a blue rare gem |
| 15:30.14 | Xinhuan | in fact blizz didn't even nerf the green gem vendor price propery |
| 15:30.16 | Xinhuan | properly |
| 15:30.28 | Xinhuan | the UNCUT version vendors 25s, but the cut version still vendored 1g |
| 15:30.44 | Xinhuan | so i gained like 10-20g daily on the AH just buying the uncut ones under 1g |
| 15:30.48 | Xinhuan | and cutting it and vendor |
| 15:31.09 | Xinhuan | until the most recent patch that is - they fixed the cut green gem price too |
| 15:31.15 | Xinhuan | but Auctioneer's database didn't fix that |
| 15:31.16 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: do you have any of the epic cuts yet? |
| 15:31.25 | Xinhuan | so heaps of ppl lost money :) |
| 15:31.37 | Xinhuan | nope kad, my guild's stuck on kaelthas |
| 15:31.43 | kadrahil | ahh |
| 15:31.56 | xyu` | some of those are yummy |
| 15:32.04 | Xinhuan | but then, so is 11 other guilds |
| 15:32.09 | Xinhuan | also stuck on kael |
| 15:32.18 | xyu` | You guys get pull lag? like back in the naxx rush days? |
| 15:32.23 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 15:32.27 | kadrahil | http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.755 |
| 15:32.33 | xyu` | i remember when we had 11 people doing annubis and whenever someone pulled the whole instance would lag |
| 15:32.37 | xyu` | 11 guilds * |
| 15:32.44 | Xinhuan | yeah 6 in BT/hyjal too |
| 15:33.49 | xyu` | i want to get back into raiding, but i know i shouldn't, school starts in 4 days :P |
| 15:34.06 | erb | damn u guys have 6 guilds doing bt/hyjal on your realm? |
| 15:34.11 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 15:34.13 | Xinhuan | and 11 stuck on kael |
| 15:34.15 | erb | that's pretty cool |
| 15:34.15 | Xinhuan | and 3 on vashj |
| 15:34.26 | erb | we have 3 or 4 max |
| 15:34.28 | Xinhuan | and 48 has at least killed a boss in SSC/TK |
| 15:34.34 | Xinhuan | (loot reaver) |
| 15:34.47 | erb | what realm? |
| 15:34.53 | Xinhuan | us blackrock |
| 15:34.54 | xyu` | did blackrock get any other endgame transfers other than nurfed? |
| 15:34.56 | erb | oh |
| 15:35.00 | xyu` | post TBC |
| 15:35.02 | Xinhuan | just nurfed |
| 15:35.04 | erb | blackrock is where everyone sems to go |
| 15:35.05 | xyu` | ah |
| 15:35.14 | Xinhuan | they xferred here cos they wanted to be on BG9 |
| 15:35.19 | Xinhuan | they should have chosen tichondrius |
| 15:35.23 | erb | i knew this crazy pvp mage pigvomit/sunburn that did it for that reason |
| 15:35.26 | xyu` | a lot did |
| 15:35.27 | Xinhuan | because blackrock is 80% australian |
| 15:35.32 | erb | haha holy shit |
| 15:35.33 | xyu` | a lot left nurfed and did go to ticon |
| 15:35.51 | erb | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1271912803&postId=12718200001&sid=1#10 |
| 15:35.53 | xyu` | most of them are in Notorious |
| 15:35.57 | erb | lol blue on twinking |
| 15:37.23 | mort|work | mmh we have onlz 2 bt/hyal attuned raid groups |
| 15:37.35 | xyu` | I think twinking is more competitive than high end pvp. |
| 15:37.39 | xyu` | since all the gear is attainable. |
| 15:38.51 | xyu` | our eminence is better than your eminence Xinhuan :P |
| 15:38.56 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:39.10 | kadrahil | i should make a twink rogue or something |
| 15:39.12 | Xinhuan | the eminence on my server was US 4th during naxx days - now its stuck on mother shazz |
| 15:39.16 | kadrahil | and get him shadowfang and assassin's blade |
| 15:39.26 | Xinhuan | server 2nd, behind nurfed |
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| 15:40.00 | xyu` | i'm on sargeras, i'm pretty sure they've completed it all |
| 15:40.20 | xyu` | but they're leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else on this server. |
| 15:41.37 | Xinhuan | they already have |
| 15:41.42 | Xinhuan | killed illidan |
| 15:42.00 | xyu` | has nurfed down illidan yet? i think they're on him last i heard. |
| 15:42.05 | Xinhuan | yes, today |
| 15:42.20 | kadrahil | by 10:45am |
| 15:42.23 | kadrahil | :o |
| 15:43.22 | Xinhuan | think nurfed is the 80th or 81st guild to kill him |
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| 15:43.52 | Xinhuan | i think the general opinion is that kael is harder than illidan |
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| 15:48.12 | Xinhuan | when aq40 gates opened on my server, 4 guilds completed the scepter, we were the 101th server though, because nobody could be bothered to farm the "war effort" |
| 15:49.37 | xyu` | that's how mug'thol was. it was just a server of xfers. you coudln't even make a lowbie on the server for like 2 weeks. |
| 15:49.53 | xyu` | and everyone on the server was doing end game. but no one bothered farming |
| 15:50.34 | kadrahil | hmm worst case scenario it would cost me about 550-600g in mats to level to 300 |
| 15:50.52 | Xinhuan | do dailies |
| 15:50.56 | Xinhuan | 10 dailies = 120g |
| 15:51.06 | kadrahil | i only have 5 so far |
| 15:52.26 | xyu` | what boss is generally killed after void reaver in TK? Al'ar? |
| 15:52.33 | Deathra | Solarian |
| 15:52.43 | Deathra | Get AR and she's a complete joke |
| 15:52.55 | durcyn | al'ar is more likely |
| 15:53.25 | Deathra | Took up 3 hours to down Al'ar and under an hour for Solarian. :p |
| 15:53.47 | Deathra | 150 buffed AR on the raid and 2 tanks near 500 and you're in the money |
| 15:53.54 | Hjalte | Any webdesigners around? I need to hide some text on a page, is there anyway to NOT get the "text" cursor when mousing over text? |
| 15:54.12 | Xinhuan | only 2 tanks needs AR on solarian - the remainder of the raid doesn't need AR |
| 15:54.21 | Deathra | It's easier if they do |
| 15:54.25 | Xinhuan | not true |
| 15:54.27 | [Ammo] | or if you can dps fast enough you need no AR at all :) |
| 15:54.33 | [Ammo] | zerg and slaughter |
| 15:54.35 | Xinhuan | the debuff removes the resist give by your resist gear |
| 15:54.37 | vithos | solarian has an AR reducing debuff, until next patch? |
| 15:54.42 | Deathra | Yeah, but it's nice for a while |
| 15:54.46 | Xinhuan | and AR reducing debuff doesn't make your AR go below 0 |
| 15:54.49 | Deathra | Reduces missile healing requirement |
| 15:54.51 | Xinhuan | so AR gear is worthless |
| 15:55.10 | Deathra | It's 2 pieces, Kara trinket and cloak with enchant |
| 15:55.16 | durcyn | as it is you just need two people with AR to sponge wrath |
| 15:55.20 | Deathra | Yeah |
| 15:55.42 | Deathra | Our tanks use greens and cloth pieces to do it |
| 15:55.55 | Xinhuan | people should only die if they happen to have both Wrath and get AMed at the same time |
| 15:57.06 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: how many of those dailies come from nethrwing? i don't have my epic training so i can't continue there |
| 15:57.14 | kadrahil | netherwing* |
| 15:57.16 | Xinhuan | netherwing gives 8 dailies |
| 15:57.22 | kadrahil | err |
| 15:57.22 | Xinhuan | but only 4 of them are worth doing |
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| 15:57.28 | kadrahil | oh |
| 15:57.29 | durcyn | you can still do 4 in BEM and 2 in Skettis without 300 riding |
| 15:57.43 | durcyn | but may god have mercy on your soul if you're trying to do any of it at 60% |
| 15:57.43 | kadrahil | durcyn: yup, i have 3 in BEM and 2 in skettis right now |
| 15:57.48 | Xinhuan | so those 6 that durn said + the 4 that are worth doing = 10 |
| 15:57.50 | kadrahil | haha |
| 15:58.13 | Xinhuan | the bombing ones are a nightmare on a 60% mount hehe |
| 15:58.18 | kadrahil | yeah, they are |
| 15:58.32 | kadrahil | not as bad with the emanations and riding crop |
| 15:58.36 | pastamancer | aww, they're not so bad |
| 15:58.37 | durcyn | i feel like a china farmer, i do 10 a day on two boxes at the same time. |
| 16:01.24 | Xinhuan | 9 out of 10 times, when i try to run a second copy of wow, it errors and crashes on some socket refused error |
| 16:01.31 | Xinhuan | but it works the other 10% of the time |
| 16:01.39 | Xinhuan | whats up with that |
| 16:02.11 | Fisker- | pastamancer |
| 16:02.15 | Fisker- | you are the 1337est coder |
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| 16:03.17 | pastamancer | no, you can't have my babies Fisker- |
| 16:03.22 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: wonder how hard it would be to get a 2k loan to PL my JC :D |
| 16:03.31 | Xinhuan | impossible :) |
| 16:03.38 | kadrahil | :X |
| 16:03.51 | Thrae | Hmmm, what do you call modules that are dependant on other modules, and modules which only provide information to other modules? A module library for the latter? That might get confusing, since libraries are usually stub'd, when in this case they wouldn't be. |
| 16:04.05 | Xinhuan | i think i've got more than 5k gold loaned out that's never returned, so i never load gold anymore :) |
| 16:04.15 | Fisker- | but you can have mine pastamancer |
| 16:04.32 | Xinhuan | however i'll be set if they introduce guild or personal housing! |
| 16:04.41 | Fisker- | any chance you can make something very easily like having debuffs in the background if you know what i mean |
| 16:04.48 | Fisker- | so i can still see the health of people |
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| 16:06.08 | pastamancer | there should be a way to set the alpha of the center icon |
| 16:06.52 | pastamancer | ah |
| 16:07.09 | pastamancer | change the alpha of the color associated with the status |
| 16:07.31 | pastamancer | and that will affect the center icon's alpha when that status is active on the center icon |
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| 16:11.37 | the-golem | :-( |
| 16:11.42 | the-golem | silly bongos |
| 16:13.59 | art3mis | when you're making unit frames what is the usual call to get the defaul class icons? |
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| 16:16.16 | Fisker- | alright pastamancer |
| 16:17.36 | Xinhuan | usual call? |
| 16:19.12 | clad|book | art3mis: look at the raid UI addon, where they create the tabs for each of the classes |
| 16:19.22 | clad|book | its a single texture, using settexcoord inputs to get the specific icon |
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| 16:21.24 | Fisker- | hmm pastamancer recall where you can set that alpha? :P |
| 16:21.47 | pastamancer | in the color |
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| 16:21.54 | pastamancer | there's 4 sliders |
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| 16:25.07 | Fisker- | weird |
| 16:25.19 | Fisker- | only color settings i can find is the border and the background |
| 16:25.26 | pastamancer | for the status |
| 16:25.28 | Fisker- | doh |
| 16:25.52 | Fisker- | Status->Auras right? |
| 16:26.01 | pastamancer | ya |
| 16:26.13 | Kaelten | g'morning guys |
| 16:26.48 | Hjalte | Does anyone have some pretty images i can use for my UI via eepanels somewhere? |
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| 16:27.07 | Hjalte | Morning Kaelten, please start coding KC_Items again :D |
| 16:27.17 | Kaelten | :) |
| 16:27.59 | the-golem | lol |
| 16:28.04 | the-golem | HI Kaelten |
| 16:28.23 | the-golem | Hjalte: im looking for eePanel images too |
| 16:28.42 | CIA-14 | 03samuelcup * r47772 10beql/locales/localization-cn.lua: beql: - zhCN updated |
| 16:28.55 | the-golem | bongos2 isn't Ace, is it |
| 16:29.56 | Hjalte | the-golem, nope, it's not. |
| 16:30.12 | Hjalte | but i've heard it's good. |
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| 16:40.21 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r47773 10ClassTimer/ (. libs/): ClassTimer: fix externals for linux |
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| 16:44.25 | durcyn | the-golem: no, you don't, you're just terribly confused. |
| 16:44.55 | Hjalte | the-golem, if you insist on using ace, i can recommend bartender3. |
| 16:46.08 | the-golem | why wouldnt i want ace? |
| 16:46.31 | durcyn | you shouldn't care. use what works. |
| 16:46.51 | clad|book | indeed |
| 16:46.56 | durcyn | and if the only reason you want it is because you can push one button in an updater, then you ought to be ashamed of yourself. |
| 16:47.16 | durcyn | cladhaire, let's spoon. |
| 16:47.21 | clad|book | k k |
| 16:47.26 | the-golem | umm |
| 16:47.27 | the-golem | no |
| 16:47.40 | clad|book | can i be little spoon? |
| 16:48.45 | the-golem | durcyn: if i didnt care, i'd use the wow default stuff |
| 16:49.46 | NightHawkAtWork | the-golem: he meant you shouldn't care about what internals a mod uses. If the mod does what you want, and works well, it does't matter what the code is actually doing. |
| 16:50.30 | CIA-14 | 03eternally777 * r47774 10LoggerHead/libs/: |
| 16:50.30 | CIA-14 | LoggerHead: |
| 16:50.30 | CIA-14 | * Adding AceOO-2.0 to externals. |
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| 16:51.35 | sag_ich_nicht | recommend me awesome addons that i do not have yet |
| 16:51.38 | sag_ich_nicht | (note, i already have 400+) |
| 16:51.54 | durcyn | in the case of your question, regarding action bars, there are two options that come to mind: Bartender and Bongos. Both fill the same function, but one uses ace2 and one uses dongle. both work quite well. pick the one that better meets your needs. |
| 16:52.39 | Hjalte | If the-golem is already using a lot of ace2 addons and no dongle addons, I guess Bartender3 would be the better choice after all? |
| 16:53.17 | NightHawkAtWork | why? |
| 16:53.27 | Matrix110 | because its using already existing things |
| 16:53.31 | NightHawkAtWork | so? |
| 16:53.42 | NightHawkAtWork | dongle (and bongos in general) is pretty light |
| 16:53.54 | Matrix110 | i didnt say anything against that |
| 16:54.00 | NightHawkAtWork | using it over bt3 won't suddenly bloat your ui into some unmanagable piece of crap :P |
| 16:54.24 | NightHawkAtWork | most people wouldn't even notice |
| 16:54.25 | durcyn | as long as it's not leaking memory at an ungodly rate, there's no harm |
| 16:54.33 | durcyn | try both. use the one you like. |
| 16:54.37 | NightHawkAtWork | ^^ |
| 16:54.40 | Matrix110 | well i just wanted to give you an answer on your "why?" :P |
| 16:54.44 | durcyn | it's an addon framework, not a cult, people |
| 16:54.55 | the-golem | i'm already using bongos, and i don't much like |
| 16:55.06 | NightHawkAtWork | now, see, apple? that's a cult. :P |
| 16:55.10 | Matrix110 | well then try BT3 the-golem |
| 16:55.16 | Matrix110 | else try randombarmod X |
| 16:55.37 | Punkie` | NightHawkAtWork: I need a mac :( |
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| 16:55.47 | NightHawkAtWork | Punkie`: everyone needs a mac. |
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| 17:00.23 | Fisker- | NOOOOOOOOO |
| 17:00.34 | Fisker- | i'm gonna internet hate machine this joint up |
| 17:00.36 | Amadeo | As I get older, I feel like I need a Mac |
| 17:01.15 | Amadeo | The older I get, the less I want to mess with stuff |
| 17:02.04 | Amadeo | With Windows you have to install all kinds of support software, with Linux you need to code in binary to make things work right, so I'm hoping that on a Mac you can just install it and leave it be :P |
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| 17:02.44 | evl | Mac works :P |
| 17:04.17 | Amadeo | I guess you just pick the OS with the evils you can deal with |
| 17:04.23 | Amadeo | since none are perfect |
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| 17:04.43 | sica | my powerbook still works with the 10.3 installation it had when I bought it... that was 3 years ago |
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| 17:05.53 | durcyn | i tell everyone who asks to buy a mac |
| 17:06.01 | durcyn | fewer questions to answer later on |
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| 17:06.31 | Lyfe | 10.3's about to get EOL'd, no? |
| 17:07.08 | Elkano | "Where is my right mouse button?" |
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| 17:07.30 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 17:07.40 | Lyfe | Elkano: on the mouse, duh. course, the mighty mice are sensitive to where on the mouse you press (and can be mapped), but even if you use a laptop (which is truely one button), you can hold control.. or just get a freaking mouse. |
| 17:07.49 | sica | Lyfe: yeah, but it just works - well, the powerbook itself is a bit slow for current software, I wouldn't recommend playing WoW on it :) |
| 17:08.08 | evl | mighty mouse sucks |
| 17:08.09 | Lyfe | sica: i have 3 friends that play wow on their powerbooks. |
| 17:08.13 | Lyfe | evl: indeed. |
| 17:08.21 | evl | I love apple products but the mighty mouse was design flawed from hell |
| 17:08.30 | Amadeo | I'm putting XP back on this laptop, nothing else was fast enough/worked right |
| 17:08.42 | evl | vista? |
| 17:08.55 | sica | Lyfe: in native resolution? I did until BWL was released, the lags were abnormal :/ |
| 17:08.56 | Amadeo | Far too old for Vista |
| 17:09.00 | Lyfe | jeez, what else did you try? |
| 17:09.14 | evl | ugh, vista is xp but worse imho |
| 17:09.17 | Pkekyo | my school is currently enforcing Vista on far too old and far too shitty hardware >.< |
| 17:09.19 | Lyfe | sica: ahh, well, i dunno what they use for video settings, but anyway. |
| 17:09.25 | Amadeo | I tried everything on it :P |
| 17:09.40 | Lyfe | sica: i bought a macbook pro, so um.. video lag issues? heh.. not unless you crank it all up. |
| 17:09.44 | Bayi | great |
| 17:09.54 | durcyn | yeah, the new SR MBPs look nice |
| 17:09.58 | snurre | im just dualbooting.. vista for dx10 games, xp for anything else :p |
| 17:10.00 | durcyn | and they'll last a decade if you don't abuse them |
| 17:10.07 | Bayi | raiding and my internet sucks again... |
| 17:10.18 | Lyfe | durcyn: i want a new one with the nvidia graphics cards in it.. but.. i have no money :\ |
| 17:10.29 | sica | Lyfe: I'm working and playing on a MacPro :) - and I love it |
| 17:10.57 | evl | I raided MC back when the first 13" iBook came out :P |
| 17:10.59 | evl | worked fine |
| 17:11.02 | Amadeo | Does anyone have a new Mac with both XP/OSX or Vista/OSX on it? |
| 17:11.08 | Lyfe | sica: i wish my job would involve using a mac pro. nice freaking machine... sadly, i'm currently using a bottome of the barrel lenovo laptop. course, i dont need to play games on it. |
| 17:11.18 | evl | i mean okay it doesn't pack as much juice as a cranked up gaming pc but my god windows makes sure they stay equal :P |
| 17:11.39 | Lyfe | Amadeo: i used to have xp & os x on my mac laptop, but i ran out of reasons to have xp. |
| 17:12.08 | Amadeo | I just want someone to show me a real framerate comparison in XP and OSX, screenshot of each in the same place, and same settings :) |
| 17:12.10 | sica | Amadeo: yeah, I'm playing WoW on Windows XP, a) because I don't like the spying in WoW and b) we use Teamspeak for raiding and I need TS whispers |
| 17:12.10 | Lyfe | evl: hehehe. |
| 17:12.12 | durcyn | Lyfe: yeah, i'm tempted to buy my own MBP and just tell my manager to not lease me a new thinkpad |
| 17:12.24 | Amadeo | sica: Spying? |
| 17:12.50 | Amadeo | Doesn't Warden run in everything? |
| 17:12.59 | Lyfe | Amadeo: i believe they'll be about the same, honestly. the windows one might be a few frames higher becuase windows doesn't throttle the gpu to avoid excess heat. |
| 17:13.25 | Amadeo | Lyfe: I'm more curious about OpenGL vs DirectX implementations on both, so I guess settings wouldn't be completely equal :) |
| 17:13.27 | sag_ich_nicht | warden fails hard |
| 17:13.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i have proven that multiple times already |
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| 17:13.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not gonna prove it again |
| 17:13.37 | Lyfe | durcyn: hehe. friend of mine actually convinced his boss to buy him a mbp, since he could install widnows on it. |
| 17:13.46 | sica | Amadeo: yeah, sure, but on Windows it spys on a installation I made just for the game - and yes, windows got a few fps more |
| 17:13.56 | durcyn | Lyfe: cisco's pretty cool about it, just have to break out of the lenovo lease prison |
| 17:14.14 | Lyfe | Amadeo: heh. my understanding is simply that windows peaks higher than os x in framerates in wow. |
| 17:14.33 | Lyfe | Amadeo: i'm willing to bet their average framerates however, are very very close. |
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| 17:14.50 | Amadeo | I dunno, I'd be surprised |
| 17:15.03 | Amadeo | I'm just curious, though |
| 17:15.04 | Lyfe | actually, i do wonder about it now though, since wow does have multithreaded opengl support on mac (or something like that) |
| 17:15.10 | Amadeo | but nobody has a real comparison, they just say one way or another :) |
| 17:15.23 | Lyfe | amadeo: well, it's been a while since i bothered. :P |
| 17:15.33 | clad|book | Multithreaded open-gl can hose my GPU it tries to pump so much |
| 17:15.39 | clad|book | that's why they gave us an FPS cap :P |
| 17:15.56 | xyu` | why do rogues burn evasion vs me? (mage) |
| 17:15.59 | xyu` | they know something i dont ? |
| 17:16.01 | Lyfe | there's an fps cap? :) |
| 17:16.22 | clad|book | Lyfe: yes, there are commands to cap your FPS |
| 17:16.25 | sica | well, it depends on the place, windows seems to limit my fps to 60 somehow, so somewhere outside IF, my windows installation has 60fps, but the osx installation 140fps :) |
| 17:16.27 | clad|book | to prevent heat issues :P |
| 17:16.38 | clad|book | but you can set the cap, its a console command |
| 17:16.40 | Lyfe | clad|book: oh... well, i guess i don't use them, or haev them set to defaults, so.. |
| 17:16.55 | clad|book | they are not set, unless you've set them |
| 17:16.58 | Lyfe | sica: i've noticed that too. |
| 17:17.05 | clad|book | but you can cap the foreground fps different from the background fps |
| 17:17.12 | Lyfe | clad|book: weird. |
| 17:17.40 | clad|book | no, its nice :P |
| 17:17.46 | Lyfe | i'm sure it is, but that's weird. |
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| 17:18.51 | durcyn | it's not weird at all. with vertical sync enabled, fps is limited to the refresh rate of your display |
| 17:18.54 | Amadeo | sica: That's vsync in Windows, most likely |
| 17:18.56 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 17:19.07 | Amadeo | you can turn it off in WoW options |
| 17:19.32 | Lyfe | ahh well, lunchtime. |
| 17:22.18 | Pkekyo | anyone know any software that will read .ple files? |
| 17:23.37 | Amadeo | filext.com |
| 17:23.43 | Kaydeethree | new PTR diffs up. current build: 7187. http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
| 17:25.03 | Fisker- | anything cool? |
| 17:26.01 | Kaydeethree | just voip changes mostly |
| 17:26.40 | Kaydeethree | I'm still WTFing at a previous build's inclusion of an in-game filepicker for the macs |
| 17:26.51 | Pkekyo | !vs eu bloodfeather baesj eu bloodfeather xolar |
| 17:26.54 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj vs Xolar! A L70 warrior and a L70 paladin square off!; 8/5/48 vs 0/46/12; Baesj wins by 244 TBRs! |
| 17:27.21 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather xolar |
| 17:27.23 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Xolar, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/46/12). 10667 HP; 4878 Mana; 91 mana regen; 7 mp5; 12787 Armour; 640 AP; 91.4 Melee DPS; 5.77% melee crit; 21 spell crit; 247 +spell dmg/heal; 232 defense; 13.19% dodge; 24.05% block;[[ TBR: 668 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xkzgm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36hd7x ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 13:37:28 2007 ]] |
| 17:29.10 | Pkekyo | anyone know if that's good stats for a tankadin or not? :> |
| 17:29.33 | Fisker- | filepicker? |
| 17:29.56 | deltron | I'm trying to gear/level my tankadin |
| 17:30.00 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funkydud@host217-44-96-5.range217-44.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:30.16 | Fisker- | !vs eu bloodfeather baesj eu ravencrest fiskerdin |
| 17:30.17 | ThraeBot | Fisker-: Baesj vs Fiskerdin! A L70 warrior and a L70 paladin square off!; 8/5/48 vs 50/11/0; Fiskerdin wins by 133 TBRs! |
| 17:30.23 | Fisker- | yay |
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| 17:30.43 | Fisker- | !vs eu ravencrest fiskerdin eu bloodfeather xolar |
| 17:30.43 | ThraeBot | Fisker-: Fiskerdin vs Xolar! Two 70 paladins square off!; 50/11/0 vs 0/46/12; Fiskerdin wins by 376 TBRs! |
| 17:30.52 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 17:30.57 | Shirik | !vs eu ravencrest fiskerdin us drenden kimina |
| 17:30.57 | ThraeBot | Shirik: fiskerdin vs kimina! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? fiskerdin wins by 7837614 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 17:31.01 | Shirik | =( |
| 17:31.08 | Shirik | !vs eu ravencrest fiskerdin us drenden kimina |
| 17:31.10 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Fiskerdin vs Kimina! A L70 paladin and a L70 priest square off!; 50/11/0 vs 23/38/0; Fiskerdin wins by 570 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 17:31.12 | deltron | what's vs do? |
| 17:31.16 | Shirik | I give up |
| 17:31.20 | Fisker- | !vs eu ravencrest fiskerdin eu magtheridon awake |
| 17:31.22 | ThraeBot | Fisker-: Fiskerdin vs Awake! Two 70 paladins square off!; Fiskerdin wins by 129 TBRs! |
| 17:31.25 | Fisker- | lol |
| 17:31.42 | deltron | !vs us suramar diode eu ravencrest fiskerdin |
| 17:31.47 | ThraeBot | deltron: Diode vs Fiskerdin! A L70 shaman and a L70 paladin square off!; 18/0/43 vs 50/11/0; Diode wins by 35 TBRs! |
| 17:31.56 | deltron | /flex |
| 17:32.15 | TNSe | !vs eu trollbane thebigcheese eu trollbane peik |
| 17:32.23 | Shirik | !vs us drenden Kimina us suramar diode |
| 17:32.35 | ThraeBot | TNSe: Thebigcheese vs Peik! Two 70 warriors square off!; 33/25/3 vs 34/27/0; Peik wins by 111 TBRs! |
| 17:32.38 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Diode! A L70 priest and a L70 shaman square off!; 23/38/0 vs 18/0/43; Diode wins by 334 TBRs! |
| 17:32.40 | TNSe | wtf is TBR? |
| 17:32.41 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47775 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 17:32.41 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 17:32.41 | CIA-14 | - Added Noblegarden, Harvest Festival and Scourge Invasion events. |
| 17:32.41 | CIA-14 | - Changed the names of some events to their official names: Feast of Winter Veil, Hallow's End and Love is in the Air. |
| 17:32.45 | the-golem | !vs us drakthul mistblade eu ravencrest fiskerdin |
| 17:32.46 | deltron | hah no clue |
| 17:32.46 | ThraeBot | the-golem: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 17:32.48 | Amadeo | ~tbr |
| 17:32.49 | purl | tbr is, like, ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 17:32.49 | deltron | !vs |
| 17:32.52 | the-golem | bah |
| 17:33.04 | deltron | diode > * :) |
| 17:33.05 | TNSe | lol |
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| 17:33.11 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47776 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 17:33.11 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:33.11 | CIA-14 | - Added Noblegarden, Harvest Festival and Scourge Invasion events. |
| 17:33.11 | CIA-14 | - Changed the names of some events to their official names: Feast of Winter Veil, Hallow's End and Love is in the Air. |
| 17:33.27 | deltron | !vs us suramar diode us suramar kaine |
| 17:33.30 | ThraeBot | deltron: Diode vs Kaine! A L70 shaman and a L70 rogue square off!; 18/0/43 vs 19/42/0; Kaine wins by 213 TBRs! |
| 17:33.42 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47777 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 17:33.42 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 17:33.42 | CIA-14 | - Fixed 2 mixed up items. |
| 17:33.44 | deltron | hehe |
| 17:33.55 | art3mis | bah |
| 17:34.06 | the-golem | !c us drakthul mistblade |
| 17:34.15 | art3mis | why cant i change the colour of violation's winder header |
| 17:34.24 | the-golem | :-( |
| 17:37.46 | Pkekyo | !c eu ravencrest fiskerdin |
| 17:37.53 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Fiskerdin, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (50/11/0). 7927 HP; 10278 Mana; 307 mana regen; 215 mp5; 12913 Armour; 72.5 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 54 spell crit; 177 +spell dmg; 1629 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5% block;[[ TBR: 1043 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ahepa ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yd8h4 ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 13:40:51 2007 ]] |
| 17:39.33 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: holy pala vs prot warrior in MS gear isn't fair :< |
| 17:40.50 | yssaril | anyone here that can help with sinklib??? the wiki isnt much help am tring to figure out what i have to put in the addon part :parrot(addon , text , r , g , b , font , size , outline , sticky , loc , icon) |
| 17:41.49 | sica | !c eu frostmourne syeira |
| 17:41.57 | ThraeBot | sica: Syeira, Level 70 Human Priest (11/0/50). 6751 HP; 6975 Mana; 167 mana regen; 16 mp5; 83 spell crit; 90 spell hit; 770 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (1003); 398 shadow dmg (1168); 4.98% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 1144 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrm23n ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2l6dgk ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 13:52:28 2007 ]] |
| 17:42.18 | Ordog | !c eu Destromath Tequodai |
| 17:42.24 | ThraeBot | Ordog: Tequodai, Level 70 Orc Shaman (0/39/22). 5809 HP; 7364 Mana; 138 mana regen; 36 mp5; 4243 Armour; 1064 AP; 162.4 Melee DPS; 19.94% melee crit; 80 melee hit; 3 spell crit; 18 +spell dmg/heal; 11.27% dodge; 5% block; 9 resilience;[[ TBR: 693 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c4awz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2tqtj5 ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 13:52:55 2007 ]] |
| 17:42.26 | Ordog | -.- |
| 17:42.57 | sica | hm... what does TBR mean? is there any documentation for this bot? |
| 17:43.15 | yssaril | ~tbr |
| 17:43.15 | purl | methinks tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 17:44.07 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 * r47778 10ChatLog/ (Core-Initialize.lua Event-Combat.lua): ChatLog: Combat log is now logging... combat (how surpising!) [BETA] |
| 17:44.44 | CIA-14 | 03hegarol * r47779 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 17:44.44 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 17:44.44 | CIA-14 | - Missing item added |
| 17:46.09 | _TheKarn_ | my free MX Revolution just arrived |
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| 17:49.22 | Amadeo | fatwallet or slickdeals? |
| 17:49.29 | Fisker- | Kaydeethree !1 |
| 17:49.41 | Kaydeethree | ? |
| 17:49.45 | Fisker- | wuts da filepicker for mac? |
| 17:49.57 | Kaydeethree | it's for the video cap software |
| 17:50.11 | Fisker- | ah |
| 17:50.13 | Kaydeethree | just a stub, they're not using it yet |
| 17:51.01 | Kaydeethree | got added in 7153, do a search on the string "FolderPicker" to see it |
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| 17:53.54 | CIA-14 | 03gruk * r47780 10FuBar_FuzzyClockFu/FuzzyClockFu.lua: |
| 17:53.54 | CIA-14 | FuBar_FuzzyClockFu |
| 17:53.54 | CIA-14 | - Minor code cleanup |
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| 17:56.59 | CIA-14 | 03gruk * r47781 10FuBar_FuzzyClockFu/FuzzyClockFu.lua: |
| 17:56.59 | CIA-14 | FuBar_FuzzyClockFu |
| 17:56.59 | CIA-14 | - Minor bugfix from previous cleanup |
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| 18:02.34 | hypetech | Can you get to Leo in SSC without killing Fathom Lord or Tidewalker? |
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| 18:02.51 | Tornhoof | sure |
| 18:03.26 | hypetech | Which bosses in there require another boss to be killed before you can reach them? |
| 18:03.34 | Tornhoof | vashj |
| 18:03.42 | Tornhoof | and probably fathom lord |
| 18:03.51 | Tornhoof | since he's in the middle between leo and tidewalker |
| 18:04.10 | ckknight | [Liq]: lol, nice |
| 18:04.18 | ckknight | [Liq]: but it takes up a lot of space... |
| 18:04.36 | hypetech | ya, we downed Lurker last night finally and are hoping to get Tidewalker tonight :) |
| 18:04.44 | Fisker- | you can go to fathom lord |
| 18:04.59 | Fisker- | you just got to construct additional skills |
| 18:05.07 | Fisker- | you can bypass both morogrim and leo |
| 18:05.49 | hypetech | It's nice to be able to swim around in there now I know that :) |
| 18:07.01 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47782 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Souls: add first deaden timer. |
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| 18:09.08 | NeoTron | so apparently deadly boss mods has a timer on al'ar's position swapping |
| 18:09.23 | NeoTron | is bigwigs missing this because swapping positions isn't strictly timed? |
| 18:09.36 | NeoTron | but if that's the case, isn't it much like maiden (minimum timer)? |
| 18:10.38 | Tornhoof | afaik it's not a strict timer |
| 18:11.53 | NeoTron | well it's obvious it's not |
| 18:12.01 | NeoTron | but perhaps there's a clear minimum time at least? |
| 18:12.35 | Tornhoof | no idea, al'ar is boring |
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| 18:18.14 | CIA-14 | 03wt * r47783 10GridStatusIncomingHeals/ (4 files): |
| 18:18.14 | CIA-14 | GridStatusIncomingHeals: Initial commit |
| 18:18.14 | CIA-14 | - IncomingHealsLib module for Grid |
| 18:18.26 | art3mis | i must spread the joy more in here too! http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg |
| 18:18.47 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 18:19.35 | Amadeo | I love how whenever there's a screenshot of a girls UI, it always has chat of them whoring it up :P |
| 18:19.40 | Tornhoof | i would go mad with that ui |
| 18:20.50 | [dRaCo] | wuah, wtf. |
| 18:20.53 | art3mis | i dont think im a girl |
| 18:21.01 | art3mis | and i dont remember whoreing it up ;P |
| 18:22.02 | Tornhoof | your ui? |
| 18:22.06 | Hjalte | Hello Kitty UI? Ewwww.. :P |
| 18:22.15 | art3mis | at present yeah |
| 18:22.24 | deltron | what the... |
| 18:22.28 | [dRaCo] | it's even more ewww than it sounds. |
| 18:22.29 | art3mis | its it hideously awesome? |
| 18:22.30 | Godzmack | oh my god, i want that ui!1 |
| 18:22.33 | Amadeo | art3mis: The chat has everyone asking some girl for pics, lol |
| 18:22.55 | art3mis | yeah thats the guild... wasnt me though |
| 18:23.07 | Amadeo | I saw another screenshot today with the same thing going on |
| 18:23.11 | deltron | OMG 22G for a primal fire! wtf! :( |
| 18:23.11 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:23.13 | Amadeo | a UI shot |
| 18:23.50 | Amadeo | That Riddik guy is bragging about talking to chicks |
| 18:24.04 | art3mis | yeah the guild im in on there is special ;P |
| 18:24.07 | Amadeo | and having their pictures |
| 18:24.10 | Amadeo | lol |
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| 18:24.19 | art3mis | but at least they arent offended easy and that means ill last longer ;P |
| 18:24.35 | Amadeo | is that arkinventory? looks nice |
| 18:24.53 | Tornhoof | you shouldn't tell em about your hello kitty ui |
| 18:25.06 | Tornhoof | they might be offended then |
| 18:25.16 | Amadeo | Or pretend you're a girl, post fake pics and that UI, and get free stuff |
| 18:25.48 | art3mis | hahah yeah |
| 18:25.53 | Amadeo | It's really amazing the difference between playing a male character in an MMOG and a female one |
| 18:25.56 | CIA-14 | 03wt * r47784 10GridStatusIncomingHeals/: |
| 18:25.56 | CIA-14 | GridStatusIncomingHeals: |
| 18:25.56 | CIA-14 | - Externals and log template... please don't blow up in my face... |
| 18:25.57 | art3mis | yeah it is |
| 18:26.07 | art3mis | and yes thats arkinv |
| 18:26.16 | Amadeo | You can level from 1-70 as a guy and never get a single tell, aside from spam or MAYBE someone wanting you for an instance |
| 18:26.28 | Amadeo | Do it as a female char, you'll get tells all the time, people offering you stuff, etc |
| 18:26.34 | art3mis | yup |
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| 18:26.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 18:26.44 | art3mis | cept on pvp servers |
| 18:26.49 | Amadeo | even on PvP! |
| 18:26.51 | art3mis | on pvp they all assume the females are guys\ |
| 18:26.59 | art3mis | unless told otherwise |
| 18:27.04 | Amadeo | I made a chick and a guy asked me my "braw" size |
| 18:27.11 | Amadeo | out of the blue |
| 18:27.14 | [dRaCo] | whatcha told him? |
| 18:27.19 | art3mis | maybe he meant it like hawaians? |
| 18:27.26 | art3mis | sno prob braw |
| 18:27.48 | Amadeo | [dRaCo]: I spent about 15 minutes of letting him ask questions until I finally made him take all his armor off and get in front of me, and then I told him I was a guy |
| 18:27.59 | [dRaCo] | lol |
| 18:28.04 | [dRaCo] | great job! |
| 18:28.06 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:28.19 | Amadeo | he started cussing me out and then logged off, it was great :) |
| 18:29.24 | art3mis | funny thing is ive never lied about my real gender |
| 18:29.35 | art3mis | i never volunteered it |
| 18:29.39 | art3mis | but i never lied about it |
| 18:29.48 | Amadeo | Yeah, people assume one way or the other |
| 18:29.57 | art3mis | appearantly im just bitchy and malicious enough to pass for female when i type |
| 18:30.08 | Antiarc | My rogue's a female, but I'm not sure I've ever gotten a wayward question or unexpected gift. |
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| 18:30.34 | Amadeo | Antiarc: I've gotten a bunch of stuff from random people, and I never even spoke to anyone or in general chat, lol |
| 18:30.40 | Amadeo | I had a female Hunter once |
| 18:30.46 | Amadeo | some guy went and bought me arrows for no reason |
| 18:31.47 | Silowyi | Antiarc is your rogue a female human, or female night elf? |
| 18:31.49 | art3mis | omen doesnt like me changing its colours |
| 18:31.51 | Antiarc | Hooman. |
| 18:31.56 | art3mis | with the duf colour picker |
| 18:31.57 | Silowyi | cause my human never gets special treatment |
| 18:32.07 | Silowyi | but my night elf... cash cow. |
| 18:32.10 | art3mis | is that because it's passing an unsecure or something? |
| 18:32.12 | sica | I had a female warrior, and I was wearing one of those weird trousers... and a rogue walks by and yells "NICE ASS!" |
| 18:32.39 | [dRaCo] | those trousers rock. |
| 18:32.40 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3jv2cUgt1M |
| 18:33.18 | Amadeo | I have a screenshot from back on that Hunter, actually |
| 18:33.21 | Amadeo | if you can read it, lol |
| 18:33.25 | Amadeo | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2300d7e0e9aea34328500dce8d31a2bc.jpg |
| 18:33.30 | Amadeo | that's the kinda stuff I got |
| 18:33.32 | NeoTron | how about draenei, are they cash cows too? |
| 18:33.35 | NeoTron | I mean they have a tail! |
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| 18:34.22 | ckknight | ugh, Amadeo |
| 18:34.56 | sica | Amadeo: and your answer is "sometimes"? ;) |
| 18:35.04 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:35.16 | Amadeo | I should have said I was Chris Hansen |
| 18:35.18 | Antiarc | "Only when I'm on duty" |
| 18:35.23 | sica | lol |
| 18:35.25 | Amadeo | or whatever his name is |
| 18:35.28 | art3mis | when a draeni walks by with an itty bitty waist and a blue tail in your face you get SPRUNG |
| 18:35.33 | SaladFork | Anti - Is there a reason you linked that? XD |
| 18:35.45 | Antiarc | SaladFork: Because it's so hideously bad that I had to share the pain? |
| 18:35.55 | SaladFork | Anti - I see your Pizazz and raise you a What What |
| 18:36.08 | SaladFork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU |
| 18:38.01 | ckknight | ... |
| 18:38.25 | NightHawkAtWork | I think I'm glad I'm at work and can't watch those. |
| 18:38.34 | Kemayo | art3mis: Snerk. |
| 18:38.56 | NeoTron | so I figured out why I have no audio in flash |
| 18:39.00 | NeoTron | flash 9 requires alsa... |
| 18:39.13 | Fisker- | Is there an addon that keeps track of people using flasks/elixirs or not? |
| 18:39.20 | deltron | NeoTron: probably explains why it won't work for me :P |
| 18:39.22 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-169-170.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:39.23 | Fisker- | pretty much out of the box :P |
| 18:39.37 | TNSe | omg |
| 18:39.41 | ckknight | I'm still fond of Soccer Practice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqv8UJc72SU |
| 18:39.57 | [dRaCo] | Fisker-: yeah |
| 18:40.06 | SaladFork | Fisker - a quick search through files.wowace.com returned "BigBrother" |
| 18:40.10 | SaladFork | "hecks Raid Buffs/Flasks & Alerts who breaks Polymorphs" |
| 18:40.11 | SaladFork | Checks* |
| 18:40.23 | ckknight | now funny thing about that is that me and a bunch of other guys from my dorm learned the choreographed dance and did it at a pep rally |
| 18:40.42 | durcyn | Fisker-: see also "DrugTest" |
| 18:40.48 | art3mis | heya kemayo |
| 18:41.10 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omhB15G2dY4 |
| 18:41.23 | art3mis | any chance i can get you to add alpha shading to the background of the detached tooltip for the questsfu? |
| 18:42.46 | SaladFork | ckknight - the scariest thing in that video are the chicks, XD |
| 18:42.58 | ckknight | you mean the trannies |
| 18:43.02 | SaladFork | Exactly |
| 18:43.23 | SaladFork | Though nothing about that video is normal either |
| 18:45.55 | art3mis | ckknight: it's only funny if you did it to that song |
| 18:46.14 | ckknight | did it? |
| 18:46.21 | art3mis | its not funny however if you did it because you were bored and curious ;P |
| 18:46.44 | art3mis | then it's just proof positive ;) |
| 18:47.16 | Kemayo | art3mis: Only if ckknight adds that to tablet, I fear. |
| 18:47.31 | ckknight | ? |
| 18:47.55 | Kemayo | Hm, or is it already there. Let me check |
| 18:48.38 | stavmar_ | Antiarc: where do you find that stuff |
| 18:48.47 | art3mis | kemayo: ahh okies |
| 18:48.58 | Kemayo | ckknight: Okay, I was throwing art3mis at you for no good reason. I forgot that colors are already there. |
| 18:49.13 | art3mis | i noticed that with the duf colour picker loaded it doesnt allow me to mod colour on violation and omen |
| 18:49.32 | art3mis | any ideas why? |
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| 18:49.47 | Kemayo | art3mis: Try right-clicking (or alt-right-clicking) on the detached tooltip. There should be a color option just as part of the default set, I think. |
| 18:50.13 | art3mis | aha! |
| 18:50.15 | art3mis | thanks |
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| 18:51.02 | Antiarc | stavmar_: I have a wide network of friends with whom I am in a perpetual "who can find the most scarring SFW link" contest |
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| 18:51.25 | stavmar_ | well that is definitely on your top 10 i hope |
| 18:51.30 | stavmar_ | holy crap |
| 18:51.34 | Antiarc | Nah |
| 18:52.02 | Antiarc | I'm winning so far with the dude who took his girlfriend's birth control pills on a dare, started lactating, and drank his own breastmilk out of a shot glass. |
| 18:52.30 | [dRaCo] | wtf. |
| 18:52.38 | Antiarc | yes, that has been the general reaction |
| 18:52.44 | [dRaCo] | figured. |
| 18:53.31 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47785 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Souls: 28 seconds is better |
| 18:53.45 | [dRaCo] | hey, 29 might be great, then. |
| 18:54.20 | art3mis | aww safe for work |
| 18:54.55 | art3mis | and here i was gonna scar everyone with 2girls1cup.com thats VERY NOT sfw or even safe for a mild curiosity. |
| 18:55.24 | Antiarc | Yes, the rule is that it has to be SFW |
| 18:55.27 | art3mis | a word of warning DO NOT CLICK or TYPE that in your browser |
| 18:55.45 | Antiarc | It's too easy to find scarring NSFW things |
| 18:55.57 | art3mis | thats true |
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| 18:56.14 | art3mis | i dont see how your "winner" is scarring though |
| 18:56.33 | art3mis | your friends must be homophobic pussies ;) |
| 18:56.40 | SaladFork | Artemis - The name intriguies me and I'm bothered. |
| 18:56.50 | SaladFork | My curiousity has been shaken |
| 18:56.57 | SaladFork | And yet previous experiences keep me from clicking the link |
| 18:56.58 | art3mis | you will vomit a bit if you look at it ;P |
| 18:57.03 | SaladFork | Yes, been there done that |
| 18:57.10 | SaladFork | Does the name have anything to do with what's there |
| 18:57.32 | art3mis | well yes there is 1 cup and 2 girls |
| 18:57.43 | art3mis | it's more about what they do with it though |
| 18:57.49 | SaladFork | That'll do, thanks. |
| 19:00.11 | ckknight | art3mis: ew. |
| 19:00.55 | art3mis | ;) |
| 19:01.16 | Silowyi | so the AT&T guy comes out and is working on my phone line, and can't find a problem, so he says its the phone jack |
| 19:01.23 | ckknight | fecophilia is not my thing |
| 19:01.29 | Silowyi | and they only service "to the isolation point" |
| 19:01.57 | Silowyi | I express my doubts since all the jacks in the house do this, and so he asks me to plug a phone into the isolation point to test |
| 19:02.14 | Silowyi | I go to plug in the wireless, and he stops me "Don't use a wireless phone, those pick up everything..." |
| 19:02.45 | charon | are there any aggro reducing (or perhaps increasing?) effects in the tidewalker fight? |
| 19:02.47 | Silowyi | and I'm like "wtf isn't picking up everything a desirable goal if you're trying to find a problem :P" |
| 19:03.19 | Silowyi | long and short of it is, it wasn't my phone jack, it was the connection at the terminal. |
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| 19:15.32 | art3mis | Silowyi: sounds like the verizon guy that came to hook up our fone when we moved down stairs. |
| 19:17.08 | art3mis | we get home from vegas, phone doesnt work, use cell to call verizon, phone person says "yeah he was there and hooked it up" "did he test it?" "yes" "then why doesnt it work?" "he says in the notes that he tested it in the house" "we werent home and the landlord doesnt live here, so you're saying he broke in to test it and it still doesnt work?" "well send someone out tomorrow" |
| 19:21.58 | Mecdemort | is it possible to simulate a slash command? |
| 19:27.10 | ckknight | proposed directory structure: http://pastebin.com/d11a8edb2 -- anyone have any advice? |
| 19:28.03 | yssaril | ckknight how do i setup a new trigger for parrot? |
| 19:28.13 | SaladFork | Click New Trigger |
| 19:28.16 | ckknight | triggers -> new trigger |
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| 19:28.47 | yssaril | i know that much but how do i set it to trigger on something :P |
| 19:28.54 | SaladFork | Yssaril - click the plus |
| 19:28.56 | SaladFork | And add a condition |
| 19:28.59 | SaladFork | Ckk - speaking of Parrot |
| 19:29.09 | SaladFork | I created a trigger for outgoing crits and added a sound to it |
| 19:29.11 | SaladFork | That works 100% |
| 19:29.19 | SaladFork | However, I no longer see crits in the scrolling areas |
| 19:29.26 | SaladFork | It seems the trigger overrides the showing of crits, >.< |
| 19:29.29 | yssaril | damn + tottaly missed that i feal like an idiot /cry |
| 19:29.39 | ckknight | yea, but it prevents other events, since they're mutually exclusive |
| 19:29.41 | SaladFork | Couldn't find any other way to add sounds to Outgoing crits, =( |
| 19:29.45 | ckknight | SaladFork: frankly, I dunno |
| 19:29.57 | ckknight | maybe Parrot's not the best for that |
| 19:30.02 | ckknight | you can do it in like a 10-line addon |
| 19:30.05 | ckknight | if you want |
| 19:30.07 | SaladFork | That's what I ended up doing |
| 19:30.15 | SaladFork | Although you recommended Parrot to me on the basis it could do that, =P |
| 19:30.21 | ckknight | I wasn't thinking |
| 19:30.25 | SaladFork | No worries |
| 19:30.27 | SaladFork | Parrot's still great |
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| 19:30.47 | ckknight | AceLibrary("Parser-3.0"):RegisterParserEvent({sourceID="player", isCrit = true}, function() PlaySoundFile("Blah.wav") end) |
| 19:30.47 | Salad`Brb | .brb |
| 19:30.49 | ckknight | done :-P |
| 19:32.39 | Mecdemort | ckknight: how come it says the .toc and the .xml both have all lua files? |
| 19:33.21 | ckknight | err, the LibFolder-1.0 should include the xml and tests |
| 19:33.40 | ckknight | the point of having the LibFolder-1.0/lib.xml is so that embeds are standardized |
| 19:33.52 | ckknight | since, e.g. Threat-1.0 requires Threat-1.0.xml |
| 19:34.04 | ckknight | whereas everything else expects Blah-1.0.lua |
| 19:34.15 | ckknight | so, the idea is to just simplify that all the way around and have lib.xml |
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| 19:35.31 | art3mis | http://www.mmorpg.com/contests/lotro_promo.cfm |
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| 19:38.41 | Mecdemort | so embeds.xml would also contain what was once in modules.xml? |
| 19:38.53 | ckknight | no |
| 19:38.58 | ckknight | embeds.xml is used nowadays |
| 19:39.03 | ckknight | it's just for loading libs |
| 19:39.05 | ckknight | not modules |
| 19:40.24 | ckknight | http://pastebin.com/d4ab41f24 |
| 19:40.26 | ckknight | updated |
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| 19:41.23 | Mecdemort | ahh ok now it makes more sense |
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| 19:42.07 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r47786 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 19:42.07 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:42.07 | CIA-14 | - included constants.fr from TrAsHeR |
| 19:43.33 | yssaril | is there a simple addon that showcases sinklib? the documenttation on the wiki isnt really helpfull |
| 19:43.59 | Hjalte | banzaialert is kind of simple i suppose |
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| 19:46.57 | Undine | any known issues with parrot? |
| 19:48.28 | ckknight | *shrug* |
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| 19:48.41 | ckknight | someone mentioned something yesterday |
| 19:49.00 | ulic | I'm always out of crackers, very annoying. |
| 19:49.03 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47787 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: CheckForWipe |
| 19:49.17 | NeoTron | so I am guessing it's no, but does grounding totems work on Leotheras' chaos blast? |
| 19:50.31 | Chompers | i've got a weird bug in Recount, when i resize the window the contents of the window move/slide the right |
| 19:50.47 | NeoTron | we did discover the incredible usefulness of grounding totem on Fathom-Lord (frost shcok from the shammy) |
| 19:51.14 | Salad`Brb | ulic - Did you get Crackers-1.0? |
| 19:51.30 | ulic | Dang it! An new lib? |
| 19:51.42 | SaladFork | .back |
| 19:52.03 | cncfanatics | ckknight, ping |
| 19:52.12 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 19:52.31 | cncfanatics | Cartographer occasionaly makes my WoW crash |
| 19:52.33 | cncfanatics | same for my friend's wow |
| 19:52.36 | ckknight | I blame gnomes. |
| 19:52.39 | cncfanatics | disable cartographer and crashes stop |
| 19:52.49 | cncfanatics | seems totaly random |
| 19:53.11 | cncfanatics | but if I dont kill WoW fast after it crashed it locks up my whole system |
| 19:53.13 | cncfanatics | which is more anoying |
| 19:53.16 | ckknight | weird. |
| 19:53.20 | ckknight | frankly, I blame WoW |
| 19:54.17 | NeoTron | wow just intsta-died on me the other night |
| 19:54.25 | NeoTron | is annoying since I lost the dkp tracking for the evening |
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| 19:59.46 | cncfanatics | ckknightn ,no possible infinite loops anywhere ? |
| 20:03.36 | yssaril | what do you guys think http://ace.pastey.net/72999 alerts you when you should dark pact |
| 20:04.31 | [dRaCo] | while true is evil. |
| 20:04.45 | SaladFork | hmm |
| 20:04.47 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Sink |
| 20:04.47 | SaladFork | .wiki Sink |
| 20:04.57 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather cowslip |
| 20:05.02 | SaladFork | What does Sink do? |
| 20:05.04 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Cowslip, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (19/42/0). 5774 HP; 6025 Mana; 112 mana regen; 13 mp5; 4353 Armour; 705 AP; 123.3 Melee DPS; 22.43% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 26 +spell dmg; 79 +heal; 23.28% dodge; 5% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 835 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cp4dm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uenx9 ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 16:15:34 2007 ]] |
| 20:05.13 | Pkekyo | that enhancement shammy got picked to replace a good rogue in kara >.< (look at the gear) |
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| 20:05.23 | Tornhoof | yssaril, we concluded yesterday that this getspell loop routine is evil |
| 20:05.24 | yssaril | sink makes it easy to broadcast to SCT type addons |
| 20:05.29 | SaladFork | Ah |
| 20:05.31 | [dRaCo] | SaladFork: sends data to sct addons |
| 20:05.34 | Pkekyo | AND THE BASTARD IS TAKING ALL MY DPS GEAR |
| 20:05.44 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 20:05.49 | SaladFork | Yss - looks good |
| 20:05.53 | yssaril | Tornhoof: alright give me a better way :P i jsut ripped it from wowwiki |
| 20:05.56 | cncfanatics | what happens if u type /script while true do end; |
| 20:06.11 | yssaril | cncfanatics: infinite loop |
| 20:06.20 | Tornhoof | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellTabInfo |
| 20:06.28 | cncfanatics | yssaril, will it crash me or not ? :p |
| 20:06.49 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: got anything to say in your guild? |
| 20:06.50 | yssaril | idk try it if it does what i think it does then yes |
| 20:07.00 | Tornhoof | and change the original MAX_SKILLINE stuff to use http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetNumSpellTabs |
| 20:07.40 | yssaril | Tornhoof: i like give me a sec to give it a wirl |
| 20:07.47 | Tornhoof | yeh wow crashes |
| 20:08.18 | Tornhoof | or rather stops responding |
| 20:08.29 | SaladFork | Torn - why are you getting TabInfo? >.< |
| 20:08.41 | Tornhoof | yssaril is ;) |
| 20:08.54 | SaladFork | Seems yucky |
| 20:09.13 | SaladFork | Why not use GetTalentInfo() to see if they have Dark Pact |
| 20:09.19 | SaladFork | Then just use the level of the player to determine the rank they have? |
| 20:09.34 | SaladFork | Sure, there'll be a small margin of people who don't get new ranks, but they're probably not smart enough to download addons either |
| 20:09.38 | SaladFork | /shrug |
| 20:10.30 | SaladFork | It would be much more efficient, no? |
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| 20:11.07 | Tornhoof | well it's done on enable |
| 20:11.17 | SaladFork | ....so? |
| 20:11.41 | Tornhoof | more efficient yes, dunno if you notice a difference though |
| 20:12.10 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47788 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - bugfix with ScheduleCreateUnitCluster |
| 20:12.13 | NeoTron | so when did Blizzard fix chain heal so it didn't suck? |
| 20:12.32 | NeoTron | and was it really so that shamans sucked in pre-BC raiding but now are almost essential? |
| 20:12.41 | NeoTron | trying to figure out what the complaints about shamans were grounded on |
| 20:12.55 | Tornhoof | they fixed it in 1.12 or something |
| 20:13.14 | Tornhoof | it never really sucked, server side target selection just made it superior |
| 20:14.23 | yssaril | torn check this out http://ace.pastey.net/73000 |
| 20:14.24 | Megalon | not much encounters pre-bc had heavy dmg to the entire raid |
| 20:15.27 | SaladFork | Gah |
| 20:15.30 | Tornhoof | strange combination yssaril |
| 20:15.36 | yssaril | SaladFork: since i only call that once at startup i might as well make sure what the max rank is |
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| 20:15.41 | yssaril | Tornhoof: ?? |
| 20:15.51 | NeoTron | well it sucked because it often didn't pick targets very well |
| 20:16.45 | NeoTron | but I guess less raid damage might be part of it |
| 20:16.49 | Tornhoof | i suggested it more like http://ace.pastey.net/73002 |
| 20:16.57 | Tornhoof | yeh neotron that's true |
| 20:17.18 | SaladFork | ckknight - You mind if I steal your "left click to blah, right click to blah" text? |
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| 20:17.34 | ckknight | SaladFork: where's that from? |
| 20:17.47 | SaladFork | CowTip, Parrot... |
| 20:17.57 | yssaril | Tornhoof: i dont need to check every tab with this method since dark pact should always be in tab2 |
| 20:18.11 | Tornhoof | i see |
| 20:18.20 | ckknight | SaladFork: yea, I don't mind that. |
| 20:18.26 | SaladFork | Thanks, I like the way you phrased/used it |
| 20:18.28 | Tornhoof | fine then yssaril |
| 20:18.35 | yssaril | woot |
| 20:18.41 | ckknight | SaladFork: even though in the future that's going away :-P |
| 20:18.50 | SaladFork | Lol, JokerLib making that inferior? |
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| 20:21.10 | ckknight | SaladFork: yea, moving away from the whole every addon has a fubar plugin thing |
| 20:21.15 | ckknight | to a centralized configuration scheme |
| 20:21.18 | SaladFork | Interesting |
| 20:21.21 | SaladFork | I'm looking forward to it |
| 20:21.42 | SaladFork | Knowing how ridiculously awesome the Parrot configuration mode was, I'm actually quite excited |
| 20:21.58 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:22.06 | ckknight | current step is LibBabble-3.0 |
| 20:22.36 | SaladFork | Got an ETA? |
| 20:23.30 | NeoTron | in 2 weeks |
| 20:23.42 | ckknight | LibStub needs to get finished first |
| 20:23.51 | ckknight | so waiting on Kaelten for that |
| 20:24.04 | NeoTron | the trick is that "2 weeks" will always be the answer regardless when it's asked |
| 20:24.13 | NeoTron | then one day when it's done "now" would be the answer :) |
| 20:24.17 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47789 10YssDarkPact/ (. YssDarkPact.lua YssDarkPact.toc embeds.xml): |
| 20:24.17 | CIA-14 | YssDarkPact: |
| 20:24.17 | CIA-14 | - initial commit |
| 20:24.37 | NeoTron | yssaril: what is yssdarkpact? some sort of smart downranker? |
| 20:25.08 | yssaril | naw it just tells you when to use dark pact as an affliction warlock |
| 20:26.27 | NeoTron | so |
| 20:26.29 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 20:26.33 | NeoTron | when you have low mana? :p |
| 20:26.46 | yssaril | not quite |
| 20:26.59 | NeoTron | is it "use life tap or dark pact" kind of a deal? |
| 20:27.05 | NeoTron | so it keeps track of pet mana? |
| 20:27.12 | NeoTron | to avoid a "bad tap" of sorts |
| 20:27.31 | yssaril | it figures out how much mana a single darkpact would give you and then only warns you when you are below that number and the pet is above that number |
| 20:28.47 | yssaril | basically i always forget to tap asap which is bad cause your pet dosnt start regenning mana till it needs to :P so the sooner you tap the better |
| 20:29.01 | yssaril | the addon jsut figures out when the optimal time is :) |
| 20:29.24 | deltron | bad tap sounds bad |
| 20:29.27 | deltron | like a bad touch -_- |
| 20:29.54 | Megalon | pet molesting |
| 20:29.55 | NeoTron | so I wonder if a 33/28/0 spec would be good for grinding |
| 20:29.58 | art3mis | calling it Catholic Priest may be misleading though |
| 20:30.11 | NeoTron | dark pact for mana, then life tap and give mana back to the pet that youc an then dark pact |
| 20:30.23 | NeoTron | although not like I run out of mana as affliction anyway |
| 20:30.43 | Silowyi | in PvP one time a warlock was very low on mana and life vs me, a feral druid |
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| 20:31.05 | Silowyi | he feared me away from him, then lifed-tapped to like 1% to cast drain life, I was almost dead |
| 20:31.20 | |Pixel| | do you mean you almost killed a warlock ? :P |
| 20:31.24 | Silowyi | but the instant he started draining, fear broke, and I popped out of cat form and moonfired him. |
| 20:31.28 | Silowyi | was funny |
| 20:31.37 | Silowyi | nah |
| 20:32.01 | art3mis | my fav pvp funny is watching druids pop out of bear against a preist or mage to heal and getting silenced |
| 20:32.04 | Silowyi | I play with a paladin in 2v2, feral druid/paladin team, and anything in cloth we typically shred. |
| 20:32.05 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47790 10YssDarkPact/: |
| 20:32.05 | CIA-14 | YssDarkPact: |
| 20:32.05 | CIA-14 | - added externals |
| 20:32.14 | art3mis | and on the reverse side watching mags and priests silence the bear |
| 20:32.29 | art3mis | mages |
| 20:32.29 | Silowyi | our biggest problems tend to be warrior/warrior or warrior/hunter teams. |
| 20:32.32 | NeoTron | so we discovered a weakness in the prot pally method on morogrim |
| 20:32.52 | art3mis | you're using a prot pally? |
| 20:32.58 | SaladFork | Silowyi - Have you seen the recent video posted in the Druid forums for the double feral druid team? |
| 20:33.01 | NeoTron | if the prot pally is somehow indisposed you have to change strategy mid fight :P |
| 20:33.04 | NeoTron | art3mis: yes |
| 20:33.09 | Silowyi | SaladFork: no I haven't. |
| 20:33.14 | NeoTron | and if he dies, it's an instant wipe since all aoe dies within seconds |
| 20:33.16 | art3mis | neotron: no i meant THAT was the weakness ;P |
| 20:33.18 | SaladFork | You should, it's mindblowing |
| 20:33.24 | NeoTron | prot pally = ezmode |
| 20:33.28 | SaladFork | There's even a part where they go against a classic Pally/Warrior team |
| 20:33.31 | SaladFork | It's insane |
| 20:33.43 | art3mis | i stiol want Ultra Moonkin |
| 20:33.44 | SaladFork | I downloaded the full res version |
| 20:33.45 | art3mis | still |
| 20:33.49 | art3mis | err Boomkin |
| 20:34.04 | NeoTron | I had 42% shadow bolt crit and 52% immolate crits in a recent kill |
| 20:34.07 | NeoTron | think it was on lurker |
| 20:34.19 | Silowyi | We came up with a new name for balance druids in guild chat the other day |
| 20:34.20 | [dRaCo] | ele shaman und doomkin? |
| 20:34.26 | NeoTron | yep |
| 20:34.40 | NeoTron | and a 0/40/21 spec |
| 20:34.41 | Silowyi | male tauren are "Moobkins" and female tauren are "Boobkins" |
| 20:36.50 | [dRaCo] | scorch mage, CoE... love raid synergies. |
| 20:36.52 | Silowyi | SaladFork, druid+paladin we have almost no trouble against warrior/paladin teams. |
| 20:37.01 | SaladFork | Silowyi - This team is dual feral druid |
| 20:37.19 | Silowyi | Yeah you said that |
| 20:37.26 | SaladFork | Ah |
| 20:37.26 | SaladFork | Nice |
| 20:37.30 | Silowyi | not sure how that would work |
| 20:37.35 | Silowyi | I'll have to check out the video |
| 20:37.40 | SaladFork | Let me link you |
| 20:37.53 | NeoTron | I got the fire dmg belt from TK for 1 DKP (t5 gear normal min bid is 40 to give you perspective) |
| 20:37.56 | NeoTron | guess no one else wanted it |
| 20:38.02 | SaladFork | Want a link to the High Res download? |
| 20:38.27 | Silowyi | The problem with the feral druid class is that .01% of druids in WoW are actually able to utilize it to its full potential, these people are akin, to, I dunno, Savior in StarCraft. |
| 20:38.32 | NeoTron | only firemage had belt of blasting |
| 20:38.40 | Silowyi | Druid is a class that scales most with skill :P |
| 20:38.49 | SaladFork | Silowyi - Want a link to the High Res download? |
| 20:39.01 | Silowyi | sure |
| 20:39.34 | SaladFork | http://files.filefront.com/Azoth+DoubleGambit+WMVwmv/;8389070;;/fileinfo.html |
| 20:39.46 | Silowyi | ^^ keylogger |
| 20:39.52 | Silowyi | j/k ;) |
| 20:40.00 | NeoTron | rumor has it a prot pally in Hyjal is a good thing |
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| 20:43.35 | Silowyi | SF: that is one big video |
| 20:43.42 | SaladFork | Hey guys, if I wanted to add a bar to my addon (that fills/empties up), where should I look to start learning about how it's done? |
| 20:43.47 | SaladFork | Silowyi - Yep, they have a lot of fights |
| 20:45.08 | Ominous | !ar 400 |
| 20:45.08 | ThraeBot | Ominous: Arena rating from 400 points is, 2v2: 1661, 3v3: 1606, 5v5: 1522 |
| 20:45.26 | SaladFork | Anyone? |
| 20:45.31 | Silowyi | kinda ironic how the only post by a CM in the druid forum in months is only to talk about DeathKnights |
| 20:45.44 | Silowyi | wish I could help SF :( haven't looked into that myself though |
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| 20:48.22 | SaladFork | I guess I must be alone in my quest to create filling bars |
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| 20:49.26 | yssaril | SaladFork: http://wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar-2.0 |
| 20:49.32 | SaladFork | ooh, chocoalte? |
| 20:49.51 | SaladFork | Thanks Yss, got any addons I can glance at to get a look at how CandyBar can be used? |
| 20:50.15 | Ominous | FuBar_RogueTimerFu uses cb2 |
| 20:50.16 | yssaril | not at first glance never actually used it myself |
| 20:50.36 | SaladFork | Thanks Omi - let me grab it |
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| 20:55.49 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07LibStub * r47791 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary (LibStub branch) - make :GetInstance work with non-LibStub libraries. |
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| 21:01.32 | SaladFork | Yss - Thanks, this looks to be exactly what I'm looking for |
| 21:01.40 | SaladFork | And Omi - thanks for the link to RogueTiemrs, it's helping tremendously |
| 21:01.47 | SaladFork | s/Tiemrs/Timers/ |
| 21:01.53 | SaladFork | purl, shush |
| 21:01.54 | purl | Fine, I'll shut up. |
| 21:02.13 | NightHawkAtWork | If you don't want it to do that, don't use substitution syntax. |
| 21:02.18 | NightHawkAtWork | ~botslap SaladFork |
| 21:02.23 | SaladFork | Night, I know |
| 21:02.25 | NightHawkAtWork | damn, i was hoping.. |
| 21:02.26 | SaladFork | I'm just having fun with Night |
| 21:02.27 | SaladFork | err |
| 21:02.28 | SaladFork | with Purl |
| 21:02.49 | SaladFork | Plus, I wanted to look cool by remembering the shush trigger |
| 21:02.50 | SaladFork | =P |
| 21:03.05 | NightHawkAtWork | except you don't. We just think you're stupid. |
| 21:03.15 | SaladFork | =( |
| 21:05.04 | Ominous | SaladFork: np |
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| 21:06.41 | orionshock | >.> im resto again |
| 21:07.28 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47792 10YssDarkPact/YssDarkPact.toc: |
| 21:07.28 | CIA-14 | YssDarkPact: |
| 21:07.28 | CIA-14 | - Added MSBT to OptionalDeps |
| 21:08.04 | vithos | do Parrot suppressions need to match the shortened spell name, not the original? |
| 21:08.07 | orionshock | hey yssaril - DarkPact? |
| 21:08.19 | yssaril | yep http://www.wowace.com/wiki/YssDarkPact |
| 21:09.22 | SaladFork | Hmm |
| 21:09.27 | SaladFork | Anyone care to help me with CandyBars? |
| 21:11.10 | orionshock | um.. is the wiki page there or did it get nuked too? |
| 21:11.20 | SaladFork | It's there |
| 21:11.47 | Adys | is there a way to retrieve a spellcraft tooltip without knowing its name? ie a sniff-like addon /spell 27954 that shows [Enchanting: Enchant Boots - Surefooted] |
| 21:11.51 | orionshock | so whats ur problem |
| 21:12.23 | SaladFork | CandyBar-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `SetCandyBarGroupGrowth' (string expected, got boolean) |
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| 21:12.50 | SaladFork | http://wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar-2.0 |
| 21:12.55 | SaladFork | It says it's supposed to be a boolean |
| 21:12.55 | SaladFork | >.< |
| 21:13.45 | orionshock | ok, whats the function call look like? |
| 21:13.51 | SaladFork | self:SetCandyBarGroupGrowth("AccomplishBars", false); |
| 21:14.32 | orionshock | try w/o the false at the end |
| 21:14.51 | SaladFork | Okay |
| 21:14.57 | SaladFork | Yeah, that seems to work |
| 21:15.10 | SaladFork | ty |
| 21:15.29 | orionshock | bolen values are classicly a 'If exist check" - |
| 21:15.29 | yssaril | brb |
| 21:15.42 | orionshock | if the argument exits then it's true, otherwise false |
| 21:15.59 | JoshBorke | false should be not true |
| 21:16.20 | orionshock | if someValue then ... |
| 21:16.20 | SaladFork | Only nil and false are false |
| 21:16.27 | SaladFork | Surprisingly, a blank string is not false |
| 21:16.35 | SaladFork | And I'm not sure if 0's false or not |
| 21:16.38 | SaladFork | Lua is slightly confusing |
| 21:16.38 | orionshock | if someValue has been assigned the == of false, then the statement evaluates true |
| 21:16.52 | SaladFork | WOAH |
| 21:16.55 | SaladFork | I made a bar! |
| 21:16.57 | JoshBorke | lua> local x = false; if x then print('not false') else print('false') end |
| 21:17.00 | SaladFork | Wooooo |
| 21:17.00 | cladbot | JoshBorke: false |
| 21:17.14 | orionshock | on the other hand if it's nill then it evaluates false because the var dosn't exist |
| 21:17.21 | SaladFork | Hmm |
| 21:17.27 | SaladFork | Is there any way to make a Bar that isn't dependent on time? |
| 21:17.35 | JoshBorke | orionshock: anything nil or false is not true, anything else is true |
| 21:17.47 | orionshock | JoshBorke: thats assuming your working with string values |
| 21:17.55 | JoshBorke | no, it's assuming you're working in lua |
| 21:18.03 | SaladFork | Anyone? |
| 21:18.04 | orionshock | sorta |
| 21:18.11 | JoshBorke | what do you mean, sorta? |
| 21:18.23 | syeren | Does the option to set the max amount of memory your addons use still exist anywhere ;P? |
| 21:18.26 | orionshock | Wiki :SetCandyBarGroupGrowth(name, growup) |
| 21:18.30 | syeren | I want to change it to be higher :P |
| 21:18.32 | SaladFork | syeren - Not since a recent patch |
| 21:18.36 | syeren | Awww :( |
| 21:18.39 | SaladFork | It's automatically set to unlimited |
| 21:18.56 | syeren | Oki. |
| 21:18.59 | orionshock | by providing the value false to that function as the 2nd arg you are making the value exist witch is prolly what the function is checking for |
| 21:19.00 | SaladFork | Orion - Um, that just toggles growing up/down |
| 21:19.05 | SaladFork | oh |
| 21:19.09 | SaladFork | Well, scratch that question |
| 21:19.11 | SaladFork | Is there any way to make a Bar that isn't dependent on time? |
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| 21:19.45 | JoshBorke | orionshock: no, it's just setting group.growup = growup |
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| 21:20.05 | orionshock | but it's making the value something other than nil |
| 21:20.08 | JoshBorke | and checks to see if growup is a boolean |
| 21:20.10 | SaladFork | Yss - Is there any way to make a Bar that isn't dependent on time? |
| 21:20.13 | JoshBorke | but nil is not the only false |
| 21:20.18 | JoshBorke | SaladFork: that doesn't make sense |
| 21:20.20 | orionshock | meh. |
| 21:20.25 | SaladFork | Josh - why do you say that? |
| 21:20.32 | SaladFork | I'd like a bar to fill up based on a value other than time passing |
| 21:20.33 | JoshBorke | candybar is for cerating timer bars |
| 21:20.36 | SaladFork | Bah |
| 21:20.45 | SaladFork | So forget CandyBar |
| 21:21.32 | JoshBorke | the only explanation for why things were growing up is that something other than nil or false were being passed |
| 21:21.56 | SaladFork | Josh - I got |
| 21:21.56 | SaladFork | CandyBar-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `SetCandyBarGroupGrowth' (string expected, got boolean) |
| 21:22.04 | SaladFork | Not that it matters now |
| 21:22.09 | orionshock | but nil is a universal bolen value, where as false /could/ be a string |
| 21:22.34 | JoshBorke | no, false is not a string |
| 21:22.38 | JoshBorke | unless it is made a string |
| 21:22.42 | JoshBorke | lua> print(type(false)) |
| 21:22.42 | cladbot | JoshBorke: boolean |
| 21:22.53 | JoshBorke | lua> print(false == 'false') |
| 21:22.56 | cladbot | JoshBorke: false |
| 21:23.16 | orionshock | .. but it could be, depending on how that function was checking it as a bolen value; there are a few different ways to do it |
| 21:23.20 | Thrae | Now this is fun |
| 21:23.28 | yssaril | SaladFork: check this out this is waht omen uses http://wowace.com/wiki/GraphLib |
| 21:23.30 | Thrae | lua> print( nil ) |
| 21:23.30 | cladbot | Thrae: nil |
| 21:23.34 | JoshBorke | orionshock: like what? please enlighten me because i do want to know if i'm wrong |
| 21:23.43 | Thrae | lua> print( not not nil ) |
| 21:23.43 | cladbot | Thrae: false |
| 21:23.46 | orionshock | wrong is perceptual |
| 21:23.47 | SaladFork | Uh Yss |
| 21:23.49 | SaladFork | Blank page |
| 21:24.03 | yssaril | damnit |
| 21:24.06 | Thrae | The only legitimate use of "not not" I can think of. |
| 21:24.20 | JoshBorke | converting any non boolean value to a boolean value ftw |
| 21:24.46 | JoshBorke | CandyBar:argCheck(name, 2, "string") CandyBar:argCheck(growup, 3, "boolean") |
| 21:25.52 | ckknight | not not works as a nice toboolean |
| 21:25.54 | SaladFork | Yss - I'm looking at Omen's code right now |
| 21:25.58 | SaladFork | I can't find any reference to GraphLib |
| 21:26.03 | yssaril | SaladFork: http://files.wowace.com/GraphLib/ |
| 21:26.19 | yssaril | it is a embeded lib when you download it with externals |
| 21:26.32 | SaladFork | I'm looking at Omen's code |
| 21:26.37 | SaladFork | No reference to GraphLib anywhere |
| 21:26.44 | SaladFork | Not in Omen.lua, OmenDisplay.lua, or OmenThreatBar.lua |
| 21:26.48 | yssaril | SaladFork: hmmm idk |
| 21:27.07 | yssaril | you might just have to make yoru own |
| 21:27.15 | SaladFork | Make bars through frames? |
| 21:27.16 | SaladFork | Yech. |
| 21:27.35 | yssaril | yep shouldnt be too hard just need 3 frames |
| 21:27.42 | yssaril | make that 2 frames |
| 21:27.51 | SaladFork | I need one frame to hold all the bars |
| 21:27.59 | yssaril | one for the overall size so you can put borders and stuff and the other one that is your bar |
| 21:28.04 | SaladFork | Then each bar needs a faded background bar, and then the bar itself |
| 21:28.04 | SaladFork | So 3 |
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| 21:28.28 | yssaril | that will work too :) |
| 21:28.34 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: how close to downing illidan are you? |
| 21:28.39 | SaladFork | Yuck. |
| 21:28.49 | Funkeh` | JoshBorke: overall or right now? |
| 21:28.54 | JoshBorke | overall |
| 21:29.03 | JoshBorke | SaladFork: write it once then make it a function, lua created frames are easy |
| 21:29.19 | SaladFork | Well, it's a first for me |
| 21:29.52 | JoshBorke | local frame = CreateFrame('StatusBar', <name or nil>, <parent>) |
| 21:29.56 | JoshBorke | :-D |
| 21:30.11 | SaladFork | StatusBar? |
| 21:30.13 | SaladFork | Where'd you get that? |
| 21:30.28 | JoshBorke | it's a type of frame, you can find the different types at www.wowwiki.com |
| 21:30.35 | SaladFork | I'm looking at http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame now |
| 21:30.52 | JoshBorke | it just happens to be one that i know you can call SetValue on to change how much of the bar the frame covers |
| 21:31.03 | JoshBorke | ooo, someone finally created that page? |
| 21:31.22 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 21:31.22 | ulic | order = 3, that's the proper syntax for ordering dewdrop menus right? |
| 21:31.31 | Funkeh` | JoshBorke: My guild has had him on farm for a few months. |
| 21:31.41 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: give me gold |
| 21:31.42 | SaladFork | What do I set for the parent of the main frame? >.< |
| 21:31.45 | JoshBorke | but grats |
| 21:31.48 | SaladFork | ulic- yep |
| 21:31.51 | JoshBorke | SaladFork: UIParent is a good choice |
| 21:31.58 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: still liking charcoal? |
| 21:32.03 | SaladFork | Do I put that as a string? |
| 21:32.12 | JoshBorke | no |
| 21:32.15 | JoshBorke | you can, but you don't have to |
| 21:32.42 | SaladFork | Let me reload my UI real quick... |
| 21:32.57 | Warloxx | no the parent frame can't be a string |
| 21:33.26 | SaladFork | Well, I've officially created a frame |
| 21:33.30 | JoshBorke | it can't? |
| 21:33.44 | JoshBorke | SaladFork: when playing with CreateFrame, i like to use TinyPad because it's easier for me to enact changes |
| 21:33.46 | yssaril | SaladFork: good luck once you have it figured out it is really simple and you can make some prototype frames in xml and then just inherit them |
| 21:33.53 | SaladFork | Josh - what's that? |
| 21:33.54 | yssaril | i must leave you guys for now |
| 21:33.59 | yssaril | g'night yall |
| 21:34.02 | Warloxx | copyed from wowwiki: The frame object that will be used as the created Frame's parent (cannot be a string!) |
| 21:34.32 | JoshBorke | SaladFork: a mod like omnibus |
| 21:34.49 | SaladFork | Huh? |
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| 21:34.59 | JoshBorke | an in-game text editor |
| 21:34.59 | Funkeh` | JoshBorke: rocks |
| 21:35.08 | JoshBorke | look it up on wowinterface |
| 21:35.08 | NightHawkAtWork | in-game notepad mod that lets you run text as lua script |
| 21:35.20 | SaladFork | Yeah, but what did oyu mean when you said you liked TinyPad? |
| 21:35.26 | clad|book | to be fair, Onimbus is like TinyPad.. not vice versa |
| 21:35.34 | JoshBorke | true |
| 21:35.39 | NightHawkAtWork | clad|book: yes, but splitting hairs. :P |
| 21:35.43 | JoshBorke | i like using TinyPad to do my CreateFrame work |
| 21:35.43 | clad|book | like.. i'm pissed at how much a of ripoff it is. |
| 21:35.54 | Iron_Mala | guys plz need some help with a addon that use ACE |
| 21:35.54 | clad|book | i was gonna cover it in the book.. but saw what it looked like and cut it entirely |
| 21:36.23 | JoshBorke | ACE is not an acronym |
| 21:36.25 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 21:36.27 | Iron_Mala | in Cartographer, have any way to show the NPC quest givers and vendors on map??? |
| 21:36.32 | orionshock | .. was gona say that :P |
| 21:36.41 | JoshBorke | yes, using some of the modules |
| 21:36.44 | ckknight | Iron_Mala: use Cartographer_Quests? |
| 21:36.56 | Iron_Mala | no, i just installed cartographer |
| 21:36.58 | Iron_Mala | just it |
| 21:37.06 | Iron_Mala | where have these modules to download? |
| 21:37.09 | orionshock | well go goet teh _Quests and _Vendors modules |
| 21:37.13 | SaladFork | !api SetPoint |
| 21:37.16 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Could not find an example within http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetPoint |
| 21:37.48 | Iron_Mala | where can i download Cartographer_* modules? |
| 21:38.06 | SaladFork | Iron - http://files.wowace.com |
| 21:38.13 | Iron_Mala | oh! tkz a lot |
| 21:38.16 | JoshBorke | Iron_Mala: wherever you downloaded Cartographer to begin with |
| 21:38.37 | Iron_Mala | ok tkz |
| 21:39.18 | ckknight | I believe the word is "thanks" |
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| 21:39.48 | Iron_Mala | im just studing wow UI stuff... i work on WCell project... a C# wow emulator www.codeplex.com/wcell, and im thinking on use UI to get some info about vendors, maps, itens, etc... just for study |
| 21:39.50 | Iron_Mala | :) |
| 21:39.51 | orionshock | "z" ? like x is closer than z anywase |
| 21:39.57 | Warloxx | SaladFork, here you can find the api for SetPoint http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 21:40.06 | Iron_Mala | and tkz yeah i s thanks! |
| 21:40.10 | SaladFork | Warloxx - Thrae's link worked fine, thanks |
| 21:40.19 | Iron_Mala | ok thanks again guys and good night |
| 21:40.55 | NightHawkAtWork | orionshock: but z is cooler than x! z is the new black. |
| 21:40.55 | SaladFork | I'm surprised there isn't a HowTo for creating/using Frames |
| 21:40.56 | SaladFork | >.< |
| 21:42.06 | ckknight | Iron_Mala: we don't support private servers here, sorry |
| 21:42.09 | ckknight | alright, gotta go |
| 21:43.18 | orionshock | hehe.. ckknight |
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| 21:44.07 | Iron_Mala | nice |
| 21:44.10 | Iron_Mala | realtime too |
| 21:44.11 | Iron_Mala | :) |
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| 21:45.00 | Iron_Mala | ckknight i know, i dont want support to private servers, it is for my PhD conclusion work |
| 21:45.12 | Iron_Mala | just a study |
| 21:45.18 | Iron_Mala | i dont want run it |
| 21:45.23 | Iron_Mala | i love play on blizz :) |
| 21:45.24 | deltron | haxx |
| 21:45.42 | orionshock | Iron_Mala: ESL? |
| 21:46.01 | Iron_Mala | ESL?? |
| 21:46.08 | orionshock | english is a second language |
| 21:46.12 | Iron_Mala | yepo |
| 21:46.16 | Iron_Mala | im brazilian |
| 21:46.17 | Iron_Mala | :) |
| 21:46.30 | Iron_Mala | sorry my bad english |
| 21:46.51 | orionshock | i was thinking a romance language... |
| 21:46.51 | Iron_Mala | i will not disturbe u guys anymore, thanks for help again |
| 21:47.24 | SaladFork | God, I am SO lost at creating frames, =\ |
| 21:48.35 | SaladFork | I think I've created a frame, but I can't see it, so I'm not sure |
| 21:48.37 | SaladFork | No errors though |
| 21:48.47 | haste | a frame does not have a backdrop by default |
| 21:48.56 | haste | neither is it anchored anywhere |
| 21:49.10 | haste | and it doesn't have a height / width either! |
| 21:49.41 | SaladFork | I gave it a height, and a width |
| 21:49.52 | SaladFork | Would F:SetBackDropColor(1, 0, 0); make it show up with a red border? |
| 21:49.53 | haste | local a = CreateFrame"Frame" a:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()) a:SetPoint"CENTER" a:SetWidth(100) a:SetHeight(100) should work |
| 21:49.56 | SaladFork | or red background, anyway |
| 21:50.32 | haste | SaladFork: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetBackdrop |
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| 21:56.51 | SaladFork | Woohoooo |
| 21:56.53 | SaladFork | I created a frame |
| 21:58.02 | SaladFork | Hmm |
| 21:58.05 | SaladFork | Regarding the Backdrop |
| 21:58.18 | SaladFork | is there any way I can just set it to a certian color (RGBA)? |
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| 22:07.25 | Pkekyo | christ....the GM brought a shitty green/blue enhancement shaman to kara tonight (which just happens to be his mum) at a gear level FAR below what would be accepted by anyone else |
| 22:07.25 | Pkekyo | then she fucking gets all the DW fury gear I need! RAAAAH |
| 22:07.55 | [dRaCo] | pkekyo: that guy you linked earlier? |
| 22:07.57 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47797 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: reduce parasite throttle |
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| 22:08.13 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather cowslip |
| 22:08.13 | Pkekyo | that's the one |
| 22:08.18 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Cowslip, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (19/42/0). 5774 HP; 6025 Mana; 112 mana regen; 13 mp5; 4353 Armour; 705 AP; 123.3 Melee DPS; 22.43% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 26 +spell dmg; 79 +heal; 23.28% dodge; 5% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 835 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cp4dm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uenx9 ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 16:15:34 2007 ]] |
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| 22:08.42 | SaladFork | hmm |
| 22:08.44 | [dRaCo] | yeah... that guy's equipment is totally BS. |
| 22:08.49 | SaladFork | How do I reference a texure that's in SHaredMedia? |
| 22:08.53 | [dRaCo] | his talents are crap, too |
| 22:09.02 | Pkekyo | she just got the +35 hit trinket from Romulo (opera), even though I beat her roll by 20+, and she's only attended a raid ONCE in this guild (right now) |
| 22:09.22 | [dRaCo] | choice of equipment is highly questionable... |
| 22:09.28 | [dRaCo] | btw, that trinket sucks for shamans ;) |
| 22:09.36 | Megalon | enhance/ele |
| 22:09.37 | Megalon | wtf >.< |
| 22:10.21 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: I know, but it's the GMs mum, and 'she needs it more', so my roll got overruled... |
| 22:10.49 | Kemayo | "Ways to remain respected by your guild include..." |
| 22:10.58 | Pkekyo | AND SHE WON'T EVEN FUCKING EQUIP THE TRINKET SHE GOT OVER ME |
| 22:11.08 | [dRaCo] | tell him to tell her to l2p, tell him to get rid of her or gquit |
| 22:11.42 | Pkekyo | alot of people are highly pissed off atm |
| 22:11.57 | ckknight | that is a bitchy situation |
| 22:12.19 | Pkekyo | she even got into the raid, sacrificing a faithful rogue that've attended like 80-90% of all raids |
| 22:12.33 | Pkekyo | she haven't even ever done a fucking heroic |
| 22:12.42 | ckknight | wait, how did she get to lvl 70? |
| 22:12.45 | SaladFork | Ckk - Know of any tutorials that are useful in learning how to make/use frames? (esp. in conjunction with SharedMedia and textures) |
| 22:12.58 | ckknight | SharedMedia doesn't make it any more special |
| 22:13.05 | [dRaCo] | she hasnt got a clue on how to play an enhancement shaman. |
| 22:13.06 | NeoTron | I've seen guilds break apart from girls getting special treatment |
| 22:13.26 | NeoTron | not a mom-type of deal but love interest |
| 22:13.38 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: if you want help her, tell her to read, understand and follow http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t13297-enhance_shaman_collected_works_theorycraft_vol_i/ |
| 22:13.40 | ckknight | it's still a special relationship |
| 22:13.43 | kergoth | hrm.. who did antagonist again, sole? |
| 22:13.44 | Kemayo | ckknight: I'd expect she got to 70 because enhancement shamans are easy to solo, generally. |
| 22:13.56 | ckknight | still, she would've had to have put in a lot of time |
| 22:14.12 | ckknight | or, alternatively, her son or someone else helped her get up to that point |
| 22:14.21 | [dRaCo] | with that equipment she prolly had a hell of a time leveling |
| 22:14.24 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47798 10YssGuildShop/YssGuildShop.toc: |
| 22:14.24 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 22:14.24 | CIA-14 | - fixed some toc stuff that was overdue :) |
| 22:14.29 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: atm I just wanna shieldslam her in the face and get that +hit trinket back! |
| 22:14.33 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 22:14.38 | Kemayo | My wife has had to explain to level 70 paladins what Divine Intervention is. It's very sad. |
| 22:14.38 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47799 10YssDarkPact/YssDarkPact.toc: |
| 22:14.38 | CIA-14 | YssDarkPact: |
| 22:14.38 | CIA-14 | - fixed some toc stuff that was overdue :) |
| 22:14.39 | ckknight | Pkekyo: what class/race/spec? |
| 22:14.40 | SaladFork | Well, thanks anyway ckk |
| 22:14.47 | kergoth | Kemayo, yikes |
| 22:14.49 | NeoTron | there's alwyas going to be issues where RL relationship or heck even in-game friendships/relationships are used to benefit an individual to the detriment to the raid |
| 22:14.50 | ckknight | SaladFork: I don't know of any tutorials |
| 22:15.10 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:15.15 | Pkekyo | she's got fucking 300 attack power less than me whilst I'm in my tankinggear! |
| 22:15.16 | NeoTron | first time I used DI was when questing with a friend in tanaris |
| 22:15.17 | ckknight | I want special treatment by Antiarc as soon as I hit 70 |
| 22:15.29 | Pkekyo | ckknight: I'm tauren warrior...prot atm |
| 22:15.30 | NeoTron | I was all of a sudden dead and my friend was laughing hysterically |
| 22:15.34 | ckknight | Pkekyo: hrm |
| 22:15.40 | NeoTron | as I had DI'd instead of healed or shielded myself or something |
| 22:15.43 | ckknight | (note: I'm in Antiarc's guild) |
| 22:16.07 | [dRaCo] | ckk: will you hit 70 before wotlk? |
| 22:16.22 | ckknight | wotlk is a long ways away |
| 22:16.27 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 22:16.50 | Pkekyo | NeoTron: true, but this particular situation goes to rifuckingdiculous lengths... |
| 22:17.00 | Pkekyo | I've been takning all night, and I'm still over her on damage done! |
| 22:17.15 | NeoTron | maybe the GM wouldn't get any cookies if he didn't feed his mom epix? |
| 22:17.28 | NeoTron | not surprised |
| 22:17.34 | NeoTron | enhance shammies aren't great dps even with good gear |
| 22:17.35 | [dRaCo] | not that surprising with that gear and talents |
| 22:17.45 | [dRaCo] | NeoTron: not true. |
| 22:18.23 | Pkekyo | I even have a holy pala spamming me in caps-lock in whispers because he's so pissed off that she got that loot over me O.o |
| 22:19.31 | NeoTron | wow really weird mix of elemental and enhancement |
| 22:19.46 | Pkekyo | sure, she 'needs' the gear more than me, but how the flying fuck is it gonna benefit the guild? she attends a raid once every fucking six months |
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| 22:20.13 | NeoTron | should have no elemental bput resto for the hit talent and totemic mastery too |
| 22:20.18 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 22:20.48 | ckknight | Pkekyo: usurp! |
| 22:20.48 | NeoTron | [dRaCo]: relatively speaking, it's tru from what I've seen |
| 22:20.48 | Pkekyo | ckknight: usurp? |
| 22:20.49 | [dRaCo] | and she should equip... good weapons. |
| 22:20.49 | ckknight | ~dict usurp |
| 22:21.02 | ckknight | ~dict 2 usurp |
| 22:21.05 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: she probably haven't done any fucking instances |
| 22:21.12 | ckknight | that's it |
| 22:21.14 | NeoTron | !c us Kilrogg Brewed |
| 22:21.21 | ThraeBot | NeoTron: Brewed, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/47/14). 7919 HP; 6308 Mana; 126 mana regen; 27 mp5; 4711 Armour; 1496 AP; 224.9 Melee DPS; 25.88% melee crit; 142 melee hit; 11.19% dodge; 5% block; 12 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 827 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yjsws ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ttj4r ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 18:31:52 2007 ]] |
| 22:21.22 | Tornhoof | a properly equiped enh shaman does real nice dps |
| 22:21.29 | NeoTron | he's usually pretty low on dps and imo has pretty nice gear |
| 22:21.38 | SaladFork | God damnit |
| 22:21.41 | SaladFork | Frames are driving me nuts |
| 22:21.46 | ckknight | it's not that hard |
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| 22:22.36 | Tornhoof | neotron, then he's probably nto playing his shaman well, since the gear is ok |
| 22:22.37 | [dRaCo] | NeoTron: equipment looks great. does that guy get any synergies? |
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| 22:22.47 | NeoTron | feral druid, warrior |
| 22:22.53 | [dRaCo] | good enough |
| 22:22.54 | Tornhoof | should perform nicely |
| 22:22.54 | NeoTron | fury warrior |
| 22:23.15 | NeoTron | it's possible he can improve |
| 22:23.21 | NeoTron | let me find some dps stats |
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| 22:24.01 | Tornhoof | he should perform well in the 1100 dps range on some simple dps mob like morogrim |
| 22:24.11 | [dRaCo] | mongoose might push his damage a lil |
| 22:24.14 | NeoTron | of course on voir reaver he was 5th |
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| 22:25.23 | NeoTron | he's typically healing on morogrim actually |
| 22:25.25 | Pkekyo | the fucking shammy didn't even know wether or not to swap the +35 hit trinket with her healing or her dps trinket >.< |
| 22:25.44 | [dRaCo] | he's quite low on ap, though... we haven't yet really started SSC and I've got 1430 or something |
| 22:25.46 | Tornhoof | healing on morogrim? |
| 22:26.12 | NeoTron | our guild has issues with healing there but it's not a DPS race so yeah |
| 22:26.16 | Tornhoof | it's ok draco |
| 22:26.37 | Tornhoof | his dps on voidreaver was? |
| 22:26.49 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8173.msg133987#msg133987 <-- LibBabble-3.0 API. I'd like to know what people think |
| 22:27.17 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 22:27.24 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 10336 HP; 8411 Armour; 1612 AP; 233.8 Melee DPS; 24.56% melee crit; 84 melee hit; 6.82% dodge; 10.8% block; 73 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1002 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2479ww ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qpbe8 ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 18:37:56 2007 ]] |
| 22:28.03 | [dRaCo] | ckknight: looks good to me. |
| 22:28.09 | Pkekyo | !vs eu bloodfeather baesj eu bloodfeather cowslip |
| 22:28.09 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj vs Cowslip! A L70 warrior and a L70 shaman square off!; 8/5/48 vs 19/42/0; Baesj wins by 167 TBRs! |
| 22:28.31 | NeoTron | sec |
| 22:28.33 | Pkekyo | what's that 'square off' statement supposed to mean? |
| 22:28.35 | TNSe | suicide shammy |
| 22:28.46 | ckknight | Pkekyo: colloquialism for duel |
| 22:29.02 | Tornhoof | yah suicide shamy |
| 22:29.12 | Tornhoof | he won't perform well anywhere |
| 22:29.31 | Tornhoof | !c eu die silberne hand tornhoof |
| 22:29.37 | ThraeBot | Tornhoof: Tornhoof, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/5/56). 8955 HP; 10529 Mana; 276 mana regen; 174 mp5; 10104 Armour; 4.28% melee crit; 147 +spell dmg; 1743 +heal; 4.28% dodge; 5% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 898 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yptlld ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32b6ss ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 18:40:09 2007 ]] |
| 22:29.54 | NeoTron | I can't find it again hrm |
| 22:29.58 | TNSe | thats what a real shaman should look like |
| 22:30.34 | mort | as long as you have the spell damage totem out i love you anyways ;) |
| 22:30.42 | [dRaCo] | damn spec nazis :/ |
| 22:30.48 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=pkswazqixc2yy&s=3319-3736 that's one of the highest I've seen him in a fight though |
| 22:30.51 | NeoTron | as in position |
| 22:31.02 | ckknight | brb |
| 22:31.18 | NeoTron | seems like he could use quite a bit more melee hit |
| 22:32.25 | Tornhoof | no 18% is fine |
| 22:33.01 | Ominous | whats the best tatic for gruul for a first time try? |
| 22:33.19 | Tornhoof | heh |
| 22:33.20 | Tornhoof | 1248 |
| 22:33.24 | Tornhoof | as max melee crit |
| 22:33.29 | Tornhoof | that's way too low |
| 22:33.49 | Tornhoof | probably not buffed properly |
| 22:33.52 | NeoTron | I'm not sure if he had his new weapon(s) there |
| 22:33.52 | [dRaCo] | well... tank n spank. what exactly are you looking for, Ominous? |
| 22:34.23 | TNSe | Tornhoof, my thought too :P |
| 22:34.27 | TNSe | way too low AP |
| 22:34.30 | Tornhoof | and he wasn't attacking from behind |
| 22:34.33 | Ominous | well some tatics suggest running back to a safe spot before the nocback some dont, which is best |
| 22:34.34 | Tornhoof | his base ap is fine with 1400 |
| 22:34.55 | Tornhoof | but inlcuding bom,bok,battleshout, urage he should hit close to 2400 |
| 22:35.10 | mort | we usually do not run to safe spots |
| 22:35.10 | NeoTron | so most recent vashj tries, his max melee crit was 1538, avg hit at 386 |
| 22:35.24 | [dRaCo] | Ominous: we dont, and we kill him. you'll prolly need every bit of dps. |
| 22:35.44 | [dRaCo] | there more, if it is your first try. |
| 22:36.01 | NeoTron | how do you know he wasn't attacking from behind? |
| 22:36.04 | Ominous | huh? |
| 22:36.06 | [dRaCo] | parry. |
| 22:36.11 | TNSe | parry :P |
| 22:36.16 | Tornhoof | yeh 1538 is correct |
| 22:36.33 | Tornhoof | a tad on the low side, tell him to throw some ap flask ;) |
| 22:37.05 | NeoTron | rogue have parry too |
| 22:37.09 | NeoTron | I wonder if they stand too close |
| 22:37.13 | NeoTron | or if the tanks aren't on top of eachother |
| 22:37.25 | [dRaCo] | buff food, flask of relentess assault, stuff like that. |
| 22:37.34 | Tornhoof | probably old voidreaver turned around for some stomp action ;) |
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| 22:38.16 | NeoTron | we pretty much require flasks and such |
| 22:38.34 | NeoTron | but yeah I suspect that particular attempt he didn't have his new weapons |
| 22:38.34 | [dRaCo] | Ominous: ? |
| 22:40.19 | Tornhoof | the dps looks fine on voidreaver, a bit low, due to weapons, but otherwise it looks ok |
| 22:41.05 | Tornhoof | but dying as an enh shaman at leotheras coz of inner demon is bad |
| 22:41.07 | mort | voidreaver isn't that good to compare dps, you will be aggrocapped sooner or later |
| 22:42.11 | mort | (i hate that fight with passion) |
| 22:42.15 | [dRaCo] | sooner as enhancement :/ |
| 22:42.28 | mort | <- shadowpriest :/ |
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| 22:45.35 | mort | as soon as the rest is attuned for bt/hyal i won't go back there ;) |
| 22:46.29 | Tornhoof | you'll love voidreaver as soon as you start hating the waves in hyjal |
| 22:47.24 | mort | i kinda like them acually ;) |
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| 22:51.49 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Joker * r47800 10CowTip/CowTip/CowTip.toc: CowTip - add ## X-IssueTracker, which should point to the CowTip jira project. |
| 22:52.54 | NeoTron | Tornhoof: we've had all sorts of dpsers die from inner demon.. |
| 22:53.09 | NeoTron | our rather mediocre retri pally gets aggrocapped on VR |
| 22:54.20 | Ominous | ckknight: how complete is joker atm? |
| 22:54.44 | ckknight | 95%, I'd say |
| 22:54.53 | ckknight | of the core, that is |
| 22:55.23 | ckknight | general breakdown now is getting 3rd-party libraries and all |
| 22:55.23 | ckknight | but I'm working on LibBabble-3.0 now |
| 22:55.28 | ckknight | which will actually be framework-agnostic |
| 22:56.09 | Warloxx | what is joker? can't find a wiki entry |
| 22:56.20 | Ominous | wowace.com/wiki/Joker |
| 22:56.25 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Joker |
| 22:56.48 | Warloxx | thanks |
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| 23:02.09 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47801 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: Possible Bugfix |
| 23:03.53 | ckknight | ah, wtf |
| 23:04.07 | ckknight | my battery went from 47% to 13% in like a minute |
| 23:04.58 | Hjalte | stop watching hd-porn! |
| 23:05.15 | ckknight | I wasn't doing anything |
| 23:05.29 | Hjalte | slacker. |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 * r47802 10ChatLog/ (Core-Message.lua Event-Combat.lua): |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-14 | ChatLog: |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-14 | - Adding AFK, DND, ... tags. |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-14 | - Fixing erroneous message for sent whispers. |
| 23:05.59 | CIA-14 | - Fixing erroneous data for COMBAT_FRIENDLY_DEATH. |
| 23:07.10 | ckknight | ... |
| 23:08.32 | ckknight | alright, seeing as my battery is dying, I'll cya all later |
| 23:09.05 | Pkekyo | when did the desire to send criminal foreigners and/or immigrants out of one's country become racism? |
| 23:10.25 | the-golem[away] | ckknight: liking how Joker is looking :-) |
| 23:11.24 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, because you treat them differently from original inhabitants and wants to send them away only because they are foreigners. I guess. |
| 23:12.14 | ulic | he said 'criminal' |
| 23:13.16 | Pkekyo | foreigners/immigrants/refugees come to this country, we give them a place to live and food on the table...one would imagine it would also be our right to boot them the fuck outta here if they won't behave properly? |
| 23:14.11 | Hjalte | ulic, yeah, and i am saying criminal foreigners vs born-in-the-country criminals |
| 23:14.44 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, wouldnt it be better if we can help them? - Or no, I imagine one would rather have a second car...... |
| 23:15.37 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: that has NOTHING_at_all to do with race. I don't give a shit if they're swedish or somali...when we help them out to begin with and they do nothing but piss in our faces, to hell with'em... |
| 23:16.58 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, you have swedish criminals too. once people are in your country, and your country has the money to do something about them, i think it's right to try and help people. Not just send them away - to places that will be far worse to them. |
| 23:17.17 | ulic | Hjalte: wouldn't mind sending them away too, but why should another country have to deal with our trash :P |
| 23:18.07 | ulic | ** Now resuming our regular WoW discussions ** |
| 23:18.22 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: yes, we have swedish criminals, and they can sod off and bugger home to sweden if they won't behave properly whilst we shelter them here... |
| 23:18.22 | Pkekyo | we -allready helped them-, and they acted like ungrateful little bastards...where's the incentive to keep on helping them? what do you think will change abuot their gratitude? |
| 23:20.29 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, at least in Denmark, we have the money to help people. I'm doing nothing but studying and i dont have to work because i am payed for doing basically nothing. I want to help out people that are in a worse position than myself, and these people are. You cant always say that criminals brought it down on themselves. |
| 23:21.18 | ulic | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.15 | Hjalte | Some people are idiots, and if they are repeat criminals, they are still our responsibility. I don't believe we have a lot of foreigners that come to this country and then become repeat criminals. It's just what you hear about in the press. |
| 23:22.23 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: we've got money to help people here too. And we -do- help them. Then they steal our cars, shoot ours sons and rape our doughters (to be cynical about it)... Do you honestly think they will abandon this behaviour if we throw more money at them? |
| 23:22.27 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r47803 10GridStatusIncomingHeals/GridStatusIncomingHeals.lua: |
| 23:22.27 | CIA-14 | GridStatusIncomingHeals: |
| 23:22.27 | CIA-14 | - Added localization koKR |
| 23:23.20 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, you're talking about a very small percentage of your foreigners. Helping them, or making sure that they get their sentence in a proper way, wont ruin your life. You will still be able to buy what you want. |
| 23:24.11 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: ofcourse it's a small percentage. But why keep that percentage and let them shit all over the good name and reputation of foreigners behaving properly, adapting to their new homeland and contributing to society? |
| 23:24.21 | ulic | We've got plenty in the US |
| 23:25.42 | Pkekyo | the US got it right: if they're convicted felons in their home country, they aren't allowed to enter the US. If a foreigner commits a felony and is convicted in the US, he's on the first plane to his home country either before or after serving their sentence. (don't know which one applies) |
| 23:27.02 | Pkekyo | If they know they might be thrown out of the country if they persist in commiting criminal acts, wouldn't that give them more than enough incentive to straighten themselves up? |
| 23:27.03 | Pkekyo | And if they won't...well, tough shit, they'll have to be criminals in their own country instead... |
| 23:27.22 | Hjalte | If the country that the criminal is being sent to, is able to provide him with a good life, like we can, I don't see a problem. (except that this criminal might be seperated from his family, which is terrible). anyway, I don't think we should send anyone away, that is going to have trouble whereever he is being sent to. No matter what he did. |
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| 23:28.39 | Pkekyo | We've got more than enough of our domestic criminals, if we're not to import criminals from the entire globe as well... |
| 23:28.39 | Pkekyo | Ofcourse he'll get trouble for commiting criminal acts. it_should_be_expected. If they refuse to behave, then sod'em |
| 23:29.34 | Hjalte | he should serve his sentence of course, but he should be able to live in a proper way when he gets out. |
| 23:29.38 | Hjalte | going to bed |
| 23:30.10 | Pkekyo | The risk of both being sent to a country with a lower livelyhood standard than the one he's currently in and be separated from his family too, that should provide more than enough incentive to get a fucking grip and behave properly, don't you think? |
| 23:30.55 | Pkekyo | ulic: yes, repeat criminals or 'heavy duty' criminals...I'm not talking about driving through a red light or getting a parking ticket ofcourse |
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| 23:31.31 | yssaril | orionshock: ping |
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| 23:35.13 | Funkeh` | Whats the best updated for a mac? |
| 23:35.17 | Funkeh` | updater* |
| 23:35.43 | Funkeh` | Or should I say, feature full. |
| 23:36.29 | Pkekyo | err, the Java version of WAU? |
| 23:37.01 | Funkeh` | last I checked it was pretty bare |
| 23:37.37 | Pkekyo | haven't tried it, only knew it was mac compatible :> |
| 23:38.19 | Funkeh` | ok ;p |
| 23:40.04 | sica | didn't work on my powerbook :( |
| 23:40.15 | Pkekyo | awmagad |
| 23:43.18 | Pkekyo | meh, I wanna buy a mac :< |
| 23:44.07 | cncfanatics | I'd love macs if all games were supported |
| 23:44.12 | cncfanatics | linux even supports em better :p |
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| 23:44.51 | sica | if I want to play, I boot Windows XP :) |
| 23:45.09 | Pkekyo | can't afford a mac >.< |
| 23:45.10 | Pkekyo | the OSX Dock will have to do for now :< |
| 23:45.28 | cncfanatics | sica, I refuse to boot any microsoft stuff anymore due to ethical reasons :p |
| 23:45.39 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.12 | cncfanatics | ~drm |
| 23:46.13 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say ... |
| 23:46.17 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 23:46.21 | cncfanatics | should really add that link to it |
| 23:46.45 | sica | cncfanatics: hmkay, how do you run WoW on linux? WINE? |
| 23:46.56 | cncfanatics | sica, ofc |
| 23:47.02 | cncfanatics | purl, drm is also www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 23:47.02 | purl | cncfanatics: okay |
| 23:47.05 | cncfanatics | ~drm |
| 23:47.06 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say ... |
| 23:47.12 | cncfanatics | meh no space |
| 23:47.25 | cncfanatics | think we can delete the thing about 2.4 kernels |
| 23:47.28 | cncfanatics | purl, forget drm |
| 23:47.28 | purl | cncfanatics: i forgot drm |
| 23:47.30 | Mecdemort | is it possible to simulate a slash command? Something of the form: somefunc("/addon cmd opt") |
| 23:47.54 | cncfanatics | purl, drm is http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No (tm), or www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 23:47.55 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 23:47.58 | cncfanatics | ~drm |
| 23:47.59 | purl | [drm] http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No (tm), or http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 23:48.01 | cncfanatics | good |
| 23:48.22 | Arrowmaster | rofl kaspersky internet security just poped up saying the newest ptr patch was riskware because it was trying to install itself without the user doing anything |
| 23:48.55 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, maybe its right :o |
| 23:48.55 | Xinhuan | rhi |
| 23:49.02 | Xinhuan | bah wrong window |
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| 23:49.04 | Pkekyo | it's better than vista...bells and whistles going off all the time because you're trying to install something MANUALLY |
| 23:49.36 | Arrowmaster | stupid launcher keeps installing ptr patchs and starting the ptr client when im trying to login to live to raid |
| 23:49.59 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, agree, saw vista at a friend's |
| 23:50.00 | NimbleRabit | I need some help choosing what computer parts to upgrade and how much |
| 23:50.29 | NimbleRabit | I have a 3.0, 6600 gt nvidia, and 2 gigs ram. Which part(s) would you guys say are the biggest source of my lag |
| 23:51.49 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: my brother got himself a laptop with vista installed...wanted me to help him set it up...within 10 min I was ready to throw both him and the laptop out the window |
| 23:51.51 | Pkekyo | piece of shite |
| 23:54.05 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, same |
| 23:54.10 | Pkekyo | and now my school is enforcing the use of Vista on all computers used there /cry |
| 23:54.14 | cncfanatics | With my friend's permission I threw off vista |
| 23:54.27 | cncfanatics | and took a day of work to get xp drivers for all his brand new hardware (almost impossible to find btw) |
| 23:54.36 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 23:54.56 | cncfanatics | took, ehm, 4h playing with a crappy usb key to get network drivers |
| 23:55.17 | cncfanatics | download on this comp, put in key, put on freshly installed xp, check if ot works, failure, rinse & repeat |
| 23:55.18 | cncfanatics | 4h long :( |
| 23:55.32 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: been there, done that.... |
| 23:55.36 | Pkekyo | I've also got the problem in reverse |
| 23:55.43 | Pkekyo | I can't fucking get a driver for my printer ANYWHERE |
| 23:55.57 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 23:56.02 | Pkekyo | and it's only a 2-3 year old hp photosmart printer >.< |
| 23:56.04 | cncfanatics | linux ftw |
| 23:56.17 | cncfanatics | can get drivers for anything thats over a month old |
| 23:56.36 | Pkekyo | used to run ubuntu |
| 23:56.44 | Pkekyo | can't be arsed anymore... |
| 23:59.49 | cncfanatics | http://www.doom9.org/ <--- site to visit as soon as ur bothered with DRM |
