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00:01.24zeeghttp://downloads.curse.com/search/?q_tags=1&q=sct&g=1
00:01.27zeegthe new search pages :)
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00:02.09CIA-1403pb_ee1 * r47670 10ChatLog/ (14 files):
00:02.09CIA-14ChatLog:
00:02.09CIA-14- Changing code convention for easier reading.
00:02.09CIA-14- Localized messages now use '%s' for better translations.
00:02.09CIA-14- Fixing a few messages that would not display correctly due to the new data structure.
00:02.10CIA-14- Adding comments in locales and configuration for easier editing.
00:02.12CIA-14- Temporarly disabling all locales except enUS and frFR.
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00:09.01the-golemhmmm
00:09.20the-golemmonkeyquest is abandoned?
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00:14.47the-golemis there another scrolling combat text (type thing) besides sct?
00:14.55SaladForkParrot
00:14.58SaladForkIt'll eat your crackers.
00:15.27NightHawkAtWorkthe-golem: parrot and msbt
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00:26.59zeegk theres now an auto complete downloads search plug-in for firefox
00:27.05zeegand ie7
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00:33.30the-golemdoes Omen work the same as KLH? Meaning that it'll only report people that also have the addon
00:33.48JoshBorkeit'll only be accurate for people that have the addon
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00:34.59the-golemhmmm
00:35.05the-golembollicks
00:35.09JoshBorkebut pretty sure it shows others
00:35.25the-golemi'll try it out at least
00:37.03CIA-1403phanx * r47671 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealth.lua:
00:37.03CIA-14OnScreenHealth:
00:37.03CIA-14- Fixed health color settings
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00:55.03Funkeh`Ok guys wotcha think
00:55.06Funkeh`Old: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3954/oorxa2.jpg
00:55.12Funkeh`new: http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3766/newbetahg1.jpg
00:55.47JoshBorkei hate your bars
00:56.19Funkeh`My bars? Like how? :P
00:57.12JoshBorkelike i hate that texture :-P
00:58.24Funkeh`What bad about it? Too what? :P
00:59.17clad|bookhow do you say "Hello cladhaire" in german?
00:59.20clad|bookor french?
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00:59.33JoshBorkeHallo Claddy waddy
00:59.36zeeggutentag
00:59.37zeegbonjour
00:59.39zeegi cant spell the rest
00:59.49zeegHalo is german also
01:00.00JoshBorkeguten abend!
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01:08.47ckknighthow's everyone doing?
01:09.47Funkeh`Fine, hows you ckknight ?
01:09.57ckknightI'm fine
01:10.11ckknightI need a different job, though
01:10.23ckknight:-P
01:10.36Chompershey ckk
01:11.05ckknighthey zeeg
01:11.16zeegdontl ike your job?
01:11.45ckknightno, I'm currently half-stoned due to inhalation of fumes
01:12.06ckknightwhich all-in-all, is not the most fun experience
01:12.18Cyre2What sort of fumes? ><
01:12.23Chompersbad fumes, dude
01:12.53ckknightCyre2: Lacquer Thinner, mostly
01:13.06Cyre2Nice.
01:13.13Cyre2Headache?
01:13.18ckknightit's like an extreme form of Paint Thinner
01:13.24ckknightsomewhat, not especially
01:13.32zeegouch
01:13.46|Stan|do you smell the colors? :P
01:14.07ckknightit was more of a reverb feeling
01:14.22ckknightblack and white flashing accompanied with sound
01:14.32ckknightin a sinusoidal reverb fashion
01:15.01|Stan|sounds kinda cool
01:15.10ckknightoh yea, it definitely was
01:15.22ckknightmain issue is that I smell bad and have a dull headache
01:15.32ckknightand can't think straight
01:16.27ckknightoh, and I remember my upper-right canine and lower-left canine having the reverb feeling go through them
01:16.41|Stan|lol^^
01:16.44|Stan|sleep might help
01:16.49ckknightand the weird sense that I was a prophet, i.e. everything felt like deja vu
01:17.00Cyre2I felt kinda like that when my tub in my old apartment was repainted.
01:17.03ckknightafter I did an action, no matter what it was, it felt like I had done it before
01:17.17ckknightCyre2: same basic chemical makeup
01:17.34Cyre2But stronger, eh?
01:17.45ckknightoh yes.
01:17.50ckknightit was very strong
01:17.57ckknightI've passed out from it before
01:18.23ckknightzeeg: come to offer me a job?
01:18.24ckknight:-P
01:18.39zeeghah, no money, do you work free? :p
01:18.49ckknightsadly, no, I like eating
01:18.56ckknightwell, not really
01:18.59zeegmm food
01:19.01ckknightbut I know that I _should_ eat
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01:24.14the-golemhmmm
01:25.13the-golemWAU seems unable to load the index :-(
01:26.02ckknightso I saw the macheads at the "Genius bar" today
01:26.09ckknightturns out I need to get my whole keyboard replaced
01:26.23the-golemis anyone having issues with WAU?
01:26.31the-golembesides me? :P
01:29.49SaladForkhmm
01:29.51SaladFork.wau refresh
01:30.07ckknightalright, cya all later
01:30.35SaladForkWAU seems to be working finr for me
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01:30.44SaladFork.wau refresh nocache
01:30.46SaladForkStill working fine
01:31.18the-golemseems to be working now
01:31.39the-golemhmm
01:32.07the-golemwhy cant the Babble package stick all of its little branches in subfolders :-(
01:33.09the-golemits not like you can download them independantly through WAU anyway
01:34.26Wobworknot everyone uses wau
01:35.42the-golemWobwork: right but babble is a "package" through wau .. and you can set it up so that externals aren't imbedded, why not set it up so that packages are, well, packaged
01:35.54the-golemif you dl it through wau
01:37.03the-golemWobwork: if i manually change it like that, would it break anything?
01:40.59the-golemhiya Cairenn :-)
01:41.04Cairennhi
01:41.10Wobworkthe-golem: no idea =) I don't use wau =)
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01:41.48ckknighthey all
01:42.32the-golemWobwork: lol ^^ okay
01:42.46the-golemAce is like, the best thing ever
01:43.15ckknightnow that's just not true
01:43.55ckknightJoker's pretty good too :-P
01:43.59ckknightbam!
01:44.11Wobwork~rimshot
01:44.11purlba-dum CHH
01:44.33the-golemlul
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02:00.05HuuphI don't use WAU either, even though I think I have a total of 3 non-ace2 mods :)
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02:06.57SaladForkIs there a good Ace alternative for CritAlert?
02:07.56ckknightwhat's CritAlert do?
02:08.35SaladForkMakes a sound whenever you crit, makes a different some when other people (in your group) crit, and keeps track of highest crits per ability/spell
02:08.43SaladForks/some/sound
02:09.17Neebleris there a /script command to accept resurrections?
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02:09.29SaladForkNeebler - yes
02:09.41Neeblercould you share the wisdom perchance?
02:09.42ckknightSaladFork: check out TopScore for keeping track of highest values
02:09.49SaladForkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/TopScore
02:09.49SaladFork.wiki TopScore
02:09.55SaladForkTo be honest
02:10.03SaladForkThe main reason I liked it was the ding sound it made whenever I crit
02:10.04ckknightSaladFork: you can configure Parrot to make a noise when you crit
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02:10.20SaladForkCkk - I prefer the default SCT over Parrot
02:10.30ckknightyour loss
02:11.26SaladForkHehe, actually I was planning on checking out Parrot
02:11.28SaladForklet me do that now
02:12.13ckknightokay, so I got a version of Babble-Zone that doesn't require AceLibrary/AceLocale, just LibStub
02:12.42SaladForkLet's check out how cracker eating this mod is.
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02:14.26SaladForkHhaa
02:14.30SaladForkckk - I love configuration mode
02:14.53ckknightalright
02:16.33SaladForkHmm
02:16.40SaladForkWhat's the difference between parabola and semicircle?
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02:16.54WobWorka parabola is pointier
02:17.51SaladForkWow
02:17.53SaladForkConfiguration mode
02:17.54SaladForkI love it
02:17.58ckknightparabola is y = 1 - x^2
02:17.59SaladForkScrew WoW, I could just stare at this for hours
02:18.07ckknightsemicircle is (1 - x^2)^0.5
02:18.13ckknightlol, SaladFork
02:19.22Coreywhats better in parrot compared to sct?
02:19.31SaladForkHuh?
02:19.39SaladForkConfiguration Mode, obviously
02:19.54NightHawkTheSaneCorey: try it and find out!
02:20.15ckknightCorey: Parrot has throttling, it has more options, more configurability
02:20.25Coreyobviously I should know that considering I've never heard of it, thanks SaladFork
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02:21.53SaladForkAlright, where do I enable this crit sound
02:23.35Coreypretty much all my addons are ace addons except notes and sw stats <3 ace
02:23.51SaladForkCorey - I switched from SWSTats to Recount
02:23.55SaladForkYou may want to check it out
02:24.04kenlyricor violation
02:24.06SaladForkYep
02:24.12SaladForkCkk - Where do I add a sound to crits?
02:24.13kenlyrici use the recount, personally.
02:24.23kenlyricpoor ckk, he is not your tech support!
02:24.26SaladForkI see Melee absorb, block, dmaage, dodge, evade, immune, miss, and parry
02:24.27SaladForkbut not crit
02:24.32ckknightSaladFork: you could add a trigger that makes a sound
02:24.33kenlyricmaybe you don't get one!
02:24.34WobWorkI like recount
02:24.42WobWorkbut I wish more people used it
02:24.44Coreyahh cool never knew about that ill go try it
02:24.55kenlyricoh bother, three days no wow I'm getting DTs
02:25.17SaladFork>.<
02:25.49SaladForkI am completely lost as how to do that ckk
02:26.36SaladForkAh, there we go
02:26.47NightHawkTheSaneIndeed: http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/011480.html
02:26.49SaladForkHmm, it uses SharedMedia I see
02:26.53the-golemcomix ftw ^^
02:27.24WobWorkNightHawkTheSane: brilliant
02:28.39SaladForkHmm, any way I can make it use a custom sound?
02:28.55ckknightugh, I have a horrible headache now
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02:30.32SaladForkAnyone know?
02:30.35NightHawkTheSaneOnce again, Indeed: http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/011478.html
02:30.45NightHawkTheSaneI seriously <3 overheardinnewyork
02:30.46WobWorkI have my Kill Command crit trigger shouting "Go for the eyes, Boo!"
02:30.54SaladForkWob - how'd you do that?
02:31.10Yssarilckknight: ping
02:31.17ckknightpong
02:31.49WobWorkI'm using msbt =P
02:31.53SaladForkOh
02:31.56WobWorkno idea on parrot
02:31.57SaladForkDoes that let you use custom sounds?
02:31.58Yssarildamnit sry  thought i found a bug but forgot to enable a lib
02:32.27SaladForkWell Wob
02:32.37SaladForkAny idea how to use a custom sound when an addon supports SharedMedia?
02:32.52ckknighthrm, I should add that ability to Parrot...
02:33.00SaladForkThat would be nice
02:33.10ckknightyou could add your sound to MyMedia as part of SharedMedia
02:33.20SaladForkAnd perhaps add "Melee Crit" and "Spell Crit" to the Incoming/Outgoing events
02:33.20SaladFork=D
02:33.23SaladForkOoh
02:33.25NightHawkTheSaneSaladFork: it's probably trivial to hack a sound into shared media
02:33.31SaladForkAnyone care to explain how? >.<
02:33.40NightHawkTheSanei bet if you read the code you could figure it out
02:33.40dylanmLook at the readme inside SharedMedia
02:33.41ckknightget the SharedMedia addon
02:33.42ckknightthere's a readme
02:33.57ckknightalso, Melee crit is not an event, it's part of the Melee hit
02:34.00dylanmYou pretty much just rename a file and add a path to it. Really, really simple.
02:34.24SaladForkK, installed SharedMedia
02:35.28SaladForkReadme seems to be simple
02:37.03Xinhuanfubar doesn't support sharedmedia textures does it?
02:37.24Xinhuani never really looked
02:37.49SaladForkK, I think I got it
02:37.54SaladForkTime to test it out
02:38.08Coreyckknight parrot looks awesome so far, thanks
02:38.17ckknight:-)
02:38.30ckknightno, Xinhuan
02:38.32SaladForkI had no idea SharedMedia was available as an addon in addition to SharedMediaLib
02:39.07NightHawkTheSaneSaladFork: yeah, SML is just the underlying framework library that allows addons to share the media. SharedMedia is an actual stock of media
02:39.33SaladForkLoading UI, =D
02:39.38SaladForkI love this IRC channel
02:39.40SaladForkI learn so much every day
02:39.49SaladForkI also get so many new addons every day, >.<
02:39.52SaladForkUp to like 300 now
02:40.04NightHawkTheSaneso, hmm. Quiznos or teriyaki for dinner.
02:40.05abugcheck all, update with externals
02:40.15SaladForkYuck
02:40.32NightHawkTheSaneyuck to which?
02:40.38SaladForkI'm doing w/o externals
02:40.43SaladForkNight - both sound delicious
02:40.53abugyou'll learn more by leeching bandwidth
02:40.59SaladForkCkk - any way to make the trigger just make a sound, but not show any text?
02:41.10ckknightdon't think so
02:41.26CIA-1403yssaril * r47672 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_GUI.lua YGS_GUI.xml YssGuildShop.toc):
02:41.26CIA-14YssGuildShop:
02:41.26CIA-14- Rewrote GUI to make code more simplistic and easier to change
02:41.26CIA-14- Item Counts are now Right Justified for easier reading
02:42.00SaladForkThat's strange
02:42.05SaladForkNow none of the shared media sounds work
02:42.31SaladForkScratch that
02:42.33SaladForkJust mine
02:42.38SaladForkGah, what'd I do wrong?
02:42.50ckknightrestart wow?
02:42.53Xinhuanyou probably didn't restart wow
02:42.58SaladForkI did that
02:42.59SaladForkOh oops
02:43.04NightHawkTheSanecompletely? or justlog out?
02:43.08SaladForkWhen I copy and pasted the SML:Register() command
02:43.15SaladForkI renamed all the stuff appropriately
02:43.18SaladForkBut left the .mp3 ending, >.<
02:43.20SaladForkMy files are .wav
02:43.21SaladForkooops
02:43.35SaladForkLet's try this again
02:43.41Xinhuanstill need to restart wow to register any filename changes
02:43.49SaladForkXin - none of the filenames were changes
02:43.51SaladForkchanged*
02:44.00SaladForkI just edited MyMedia.lua so it correctly used .wav instead of .mp3
02:44.15SaladForkAha!
02:44.17SaladForkIt works
02:44.18SaladForkThanks to all
02:44.37SaladForkThough it's annoying that I can't make it JUST play a sound without having floating text
02:44.44SaladForkRight now it's floating a space, but still annoying
02:46.04SaladForkThat's strange
02:46.09SaladForkOnvm
02:48.06Xinhuancan't you just make a new region for that trigger that is out of the way or something?
02:49.04SaladForkI could, but that's still just circumventing the issue
02:49.15SaladForkAnd why isn't Melee Hit an event? >.<
02:49.25Xinhuanbut if its out of the way, you wouldn't notice it at all
02:49.43SaladForkMeh, having it just echo a space is fine for now
02:56.21Coreyanyone know if theres something like ct party buffs on ace?
02:56.27SaladForkElkBuffBars
02:56.31SaladForkOh wait
02:56.38SaladForkWhat does CT_PartyBuffs do?
02:57.19Yssarilwhich looks better http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1350/guichangeyi5.jpg or http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/3519/testqm8.jpg
02:57.25NightHawkTheSaneif its what I think it is, then it just shows buff icons for party members on your default unitframes
02:57.36NightHawkTheSaneso.. any non-shittacular unit frame mod will do that
02:58.04SaladForkThe second, definitely
02:58.05SaladForkIMO
02:58.07Coreyshows your parties buffs under their frames
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02:59.02Yssarilk thanks SaladFork that is the new one :)
02:59.07Coreyyea problem with unit frame mods is they're usually ugly i prefer default
02:59.08SaladFork=)
02:59.22CIA-1403helium * r47673 10ChatLog/ (ChatLog.toc Locale-zhTW.lua):
02:59.22CIA-14ChatLog:
02:59.22CIA-14- updated zhTW localization
02:59.22CIA-14- enable zhTW locale
02:59.31NightHawkTheSaneyeah, and the problem with default is that they suck so no one uses them :P
02:59.31Yssarilcorey have you tried pitbull or xpearl?
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03:01.26SaladForkX-Perl*
03:01.31Coreyyea
03:01.37Coreyi much prefer the look of the default frames
03:02.33Yssarilwhich in your guyses opinion is the best bar mod?? am currently using trinity
03:02.42NightHawkTheSaneYssaril: i prefer bongos
03:03.19SaladForkYssaril - ActionBar?
03:03.23SaladForkI'm a huge fan of Bartender3
03:03.42Yssarilk will have a look at them
03:03.53SaladForkBartender3 is a WowAce one
03:03.55SaladForkLet me see if it has a wiki\
03:04.23SaladForkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender3
03:04.23SaladFork.wiki Bartender3
03:04.58SaladForkHmm, seems that hasn't been updated in a while
03:05.02SaladForkOr they'd mention paging and such
03:06.43SaladForkwtf...
03:06.50SaladForkThere's this group of 10-15 night elfs
03:06.56SaladForkAnd everywhere I go questing, they're there
03:07.01SaladForkEven for this rare drop grind for a quest
03:07.31Yssarilthey all hunters with boars?
03:07.36SaladForkNo
03:07.40SaladForkAt least 2 druids
03:07.42SaladForkI saw a priest earlier
03:07.46SaladForkDefinitely one hunter
03:07.55SaladForkThey're idiots though
03:08.05SaladForkThis druid just ran up to one stealthed, but didn't use a stealth-required opener
03:08.05Yssarilchinese farmers?
03:08.10SaladForkVery possibly
03:08.53SaladForkWoah
03:08.58SaladForkParrot is totally eating my crackers
03:09.03SaladFork(I just got past the Configuration Mode)
03:13.48Coreyso theres nothin like ct party buffs for the normal unit frames?
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03:17.02YssarilCorey: check this out http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4463-Archaeologist.html
03:17.18Yssarili used that before i swithced to a unitframe replacement
03:17.31Yssarils/swithced/switched
03:18.41Coreycheers
03:18.42Coreythanks
03:18.45Yssarilbtw how do i set keybinds for bartender
03:19.12Yssarilhehe have no idea if it is still any good but it was awsome back in the day (pre 2.0)
03:19.17ulicsame as defautl action bar, in the Key Bindings thingy
03:19.44NightHawkTheSane!c us Laughing Skull Corvidae
03:19.44SaladForkYssareil - scroll down
03:19.50ThraeBotNightHawkTheSane: Corvidae, Level 33 Tauren Druid (0/21/3). 1758 HP; 1189 Mana; 73 mana regen; 6.98% melee crit; 12.19% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 386 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28pat4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2l4r6z ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:30:05 2007 ]]
03:19.58SaladForkBartender Bar 1 will be up top, the rest will be down low
03:20.08SaladForkNight - you've got a druid alt as well?
03:20.21NightHawkTheSaneSaladFork: yes, although that's not me. it's a friend
03:20.27SaladForkAh
03:20.28NightHawkTheSane!c us Laughing Skull Connenneute
03:20.34ThraeBotNightHawkTheSane: Connenneute, Level 31 Tauren Druid (0/22/0). 1637 HP; 1084 Mana; 74 mana regen; 7.12% melee crit; 11.55% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 359 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypkrar ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2kuhfq ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:30:49 2007 ]]
03:20.38NightHawkTheSane^^  me
03:20.45SaladForkHehe
03:20.50SaladForkDruids are fun as hell
03:20.52NightHawkTheSaneI was just curious what my friends talent build was. :)
03:20.55SaladForkI made one as an alt and love playing it
03:21.52NightHawkTheSane*nod*
03:22.07NightHawkTheSaneYeah, i'm enjoying it so far
03:22.17SaladForkMine just dinged
03:22.19SaladForkdung?
03:22.25NightHawkTheSane... dinged.
03:22.29SaladForkhehe
03:22.30NightHawkTheSanedung is.. uh, something else entirely
03:22.33SaladFork=P
03:23.07SaladFork!c us aerie peak Qz
03:23.09SaladForkThat's mine.
03:23.13ThraeBotSaladFork: Qz, Level 36 Tauren Druid (0/18/9). 1448 HP; 1489 Mana; 71 mana regen; 43.8 Melee DPS; 2.8% melee crit; 11.02% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +5 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 422 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yv8rml ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37ncu3 ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:33:29 2007 ]]
03:23.25NightHawkTheSaneneat. wts more hp ;)
03:23.33SaladForkYeah, I'm in my DPS gear at the moment
03:23.36NightHawkTheSanehehe
03:23.42SaladForkI have 2.9k hp in tank gear, but 750 AP in dps gear
03:23.46NightHawkTheSanewell, my legs have clefthoof armor kit on them, so :)
03:23.50SaladForkXD
03:23.52SaladForkThat'd do it
03:24.02NightHawkTheSanemy main's a LW, so :)
03:24.10SaladForkYep, my main's a tailor
03:24.17SaladForkThis guy has his bags and bank full with 18 slots
03:24.25NightHawkTheSaneNice.
03:24.40SaladForkOther than that, I'm just rushing him to 70 without caring much about gera
03:24.43SaladForkSince it'll all be replaced soon
03:24.48SaladForkMost of my gear is reql level 18 or so
03:24.56SaladForkMy helm is 26, neck is 28...
03:25.04NightHawkTheSaneYeah
03:25.09SaladForkboth rings are 28
03:25.12SaladFork/shrug
03:25.15NightHawkTheSaneI don't really worry too much about gear until ~60+ at least
03:25.18SaladForkYep
03:25.28SaladForkAs long as it doesn't stop me from being able to kill stuff
03:25.31SaladForkI don't worry too much about it
03:25.32NightHawkTheSaneyeah
03:25.35SaladForkJust take whatever comes my way
03:25.50SaladForkThough I wasted a lot of time at 29 in some BGs
03:25.52SaladForkbecause I was bored
03:25.59SaladForkHe had like 1.8k health in cat form
03:26.00NightHawkTheSaneI'll peruse the AH for cheaply priced greens, or other real good deals, but *shrug*
03:26.01SaladFork2.2k in bear
03:26.03SaladForkwas awesome
03:27.11SaladForkI think I'll stop to BG a bit more at 39
03:27.18SaladForkWSG gear is ridiculously OP
03:27.39NightHawkTheSaneI can't bring myself to pvp enough to get any of it. :\
03:27.56SaladForkHaha
03:27.58SaladForkWhy not>?
03:28.01SaladForkPvPing as a druid is a blast
03:28.13NightHawkTheSaneI don't like pvp :)
03:28.19Yssarilwhen using differnt pages with bartender the keybind text seams to go awol
03:29.12Yssarilis that a known problem?
03:29.33SaladForkYssaril - I don't have that problem at all
03:29.40Yssarilhmmm
03:29.41SaladForkI use paging on my druid, and the keybinds are fine
03:29.45SaladForkas is the text
03:29.59Fisker-OWNT
03:30.06Fisker-HOOT HOOT HOOT
03:30.09NightHawkTheSane~whaleparry fireglow
03:30.09purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry fireglow's attacks.
03:30.11NightHawkTheSanewoops..
03:30.12Fisker-hah
03:30.14Fisker-i won this time
03:30.15fireglowagain
03:30.19fireglow:/
03:30.22NightHawkTheSaneyou win THIS TIME, GADGET!
03:30.31Yssarilnm it only shows it when you have stuff assigned to it
03:30.33xyuhmm my incubator for The Eye is way off ><
03:30.39SaladForkWTF
03:30.41xyulike over a half an hour off
03:30.44SaladForkYou can /mountspecial on a wind rider, o_O
03:30.48NightHawkTheSaneonce again, I declare that the first two letters of all nicknames must be unique!
03:30.52fireglowyeah i had that too SaladFork
03:31.01NightHawkTheSaneAlso, the amount of detail on the murloc costume is pretty awesome
03:31.16Fisker-going to work!1
03:31.58Yssaril[22:30]<NightHawkTheSane>once again, I declare that the first two letters of all nicknames must be unique! why is that?
03:32.13SaladForkYss - He's name tabbing
03:32.16NightHawkTheSaneYssaril: so i can just type the  first two letters of someone's nick and hit tab
03:32.22Yssarilahhhhh
03:32.35NightHawkTheSaneit's totally doable,too
03:32.52NightHawkTheSane676 combinations using simple a-z, far more people than are in this channel
03:33.15Yssarilclamis Ys
03:33.27Yssarilhow do you do the emote thingy?
03:33.33NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
03:33.39SaladFork/me can do an emote
03:33.50Yssarilwoot
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03:34.38SaladForkYssaril - Please verify your beta testing status by replying to the thread that brought you here. If you require a link, please request one. Failure to comply will result in a kick.
03:34.40SaladForkErrr
03:34.41SaladForkIgnore that
03:34.42SaladForkMisclicked
03:34.44SaladForkNobody saw that.
03:34.53NightHawkTheSaneo_0
03:34.55Yssarilhahaha
03:35.04SaladForkSo much for an NDA, >.<
03:35.25abughello kitty needs an NDA?
03:35.36CIA-1403javek * r47674 10Bidder_BossAuction/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
03:35.36CIA-14Bidder_BossAuction:
03:35.36CIA-14- Implemented Silent Bidding
03:35.36CIA-14- Bidding UI uses custom editbox instead of dewdrop
03:35.36CIA-14- Refactored code to make silent/open module modifications easier.
03:37.30CIA-1403javek * r47675 10DKPmon_BossAuction/ (15 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
03:37.30CIA-14DKPmon_BossAuction:
03:37.30CIA-14- Implemented Silent Bidding
03:37.30CIA-14- Now automatically selects winner when round closes
03:37.30CIA-14- Prints item costs in raid
03:37.30CIA-14- Refactored code to make silent/open module modifications easier.
03:37.31CIA-14- Fixed AutoMasterLoot for real this time.
03:42.36Coreythat ThraeBot is pretty cool
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03:42.46SaladForkOh yes definitely
03:43.40Corey!c us thunderhorn expiation
03:43.48ThraeBotCorey: Expiation, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (8/0/53). 7064 HP; 8960 Mana; 311 mana regen; 93 mp5; 3.2% melee crit; 1238 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 51 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1744 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2euopf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36moda ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:54:02 2007 ]]
03:43.55Coreycoolness
03:44.35Yssarillol check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzPFN2tJbdQ
03:44.38SaladForkOh, it gets better
03:44.41Coreyoh yea?
03:44.45SaladFork!vs us aerie peak saladfork us thunderhorn expiation
03:44.47ThraeBotSaladFork: Saladfork vs Expiation! A L70 mage and a L70 druid square off!; 10/0/51 vs 8/0/53; Saladfork wins by 199 TBRs!
03:44.53SaladForkwoohoo
03:44.58Coreyyea thats true
03:44.58Coreylol
03:45.24Coreymaybe my friend could win
03:45.25Yssaril!vs us Kirin Tor Yssaril us aerie peak saladfork
03:45.28ThraeBotYssaril: Yssaril vs Saladfork! A L70 warlock and a L70 mage square off!; 46/5/10 vs 10/0/51; Yssaril wins by 64 TBRs!
03:45.33SaladForkWarlocks always win, =(
03:45.46Corey!vs us aerie peak saladfork us thunderhorn crowdin
03:45.49ThraeBotCorey: Saladfork vs Crowdin! A L70 mage and a L70 priest square off!; 10/0/51 vs 5/0/56; Saladfork wins by 435 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
03:45.54SaladForkkazow
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03:46.19Coreylol
03:46.24Coreyshadow priests are suppose to kick butt
03:46.29CIA-1403funkydude 07SimpleChatMods * r47676 10funkydude/ (6 files): SimpleChatMods: Updated to latest local version
03:46.32CoreyTBR, whats that?
03:46.34SaladForkWell, let's check out his stats
03:46.35SaladFork~tbr
03:46.36purlwell, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released"
03:46.57SaladFork!c us thunderhorn crowdin
03:46.58Coreyahh cool cool
03:47.03ThraeBotSaladFork: Crowdin, Level 70 Human Priest (5/0/56). 6541 HP; 8100 Mana; 189 mana regen; 26 mp5; 42 spell hit; 439 +spell dmg; 496 +heal; 4.94% dodge;[[ TBR: 1573 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yze74 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3awwej ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:56:08 2007 ]]
03:47.04Coreytry my other friend then
03:47.09Corey!vs us aerie peak saladfork us thunderhorn cillex
03:47.09SaladForkWell, I can tell you why I won
03:47.14ThraeBotCorey: Saladfork vs Cillex! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 10/0/51 vs 5/45/11; Cillex wins by 171 TBRs!
03:47.16SaladForkHe's a shadow priest with only +439 spelldmg, XD
03:47.22SaladForkI'm sitting at nearly 1k right now
03:47.28SaladForkLike I said, warlocks always win, =(
03:47.47Coreyhes got silence and fear though
03:48.00SaladForkTBR is based mostly on gear
03:48.13Xinhuan!vs us aerie peak saladfork us blackrock xinhuan
03:48.14SaladForkAnd +496 spelldmg is alright for full greenies and a new 70
03:48.16ThraeBotXinhuan: Saladfork vs Xinhuan! Two 70 mages square off!; 10/0/51 vs 48/13/0; Xinhuan wins by 811 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
03:48.19SaladForkBut I'm in mostly epics, so I probably win
03:48.20SaladForkOh crap
03:48.21SaladForkouch
03:48.23Xinhuan:o
03:48.31SaladFork!c us blackroc Xinhuan
03:48.34ThraeBotSaladFork: Xinhuan is not the character you are looking for!
03:48.38SaladForkWah?
03:48.39SaladForkoh
03:48.42SaladFork!c us blackrock Xinhuan
03:48.46Xinhuanhaha
03:48.47ThraeBotSaladFork: Xinhuan, Level 70 Gnome Mage (48/13/0). 7303 HP; 10616 Mana; 179 mana regen; 27 mp5; 389 spell crit; 111 spell hit; 893 +spell dmg/heal; 144 frost dmg (1037); 144 arcane dmg (1037); 144 fire dmg (1037); 5.86% dodge; 68 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2819!! ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ys7kff ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39m74y ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:58:35 2007 ]]
03:48.53SaladForkHeh
03:48.54Funkeh`!c eu silvermoon kicko
03:49.00SaladForkYeha, he has quite a few more +spelldmg than me
03:49.00Yssaril!vs us Kirin Tor Yssaril us thunderhorn cillex
03:49.03Xinhuan(yes, that is arcane spec)
03:49.12Xinhuanand i use 2 trinkets that don't add passive spell damage
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03:49.14SaladForkLet me guess, 2-piece tier 5 arcane spec?
03:49.18Xinhuanyep
03:49.20ThraeBotFunkeh`: Kicko, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (9/0/52). 8311 HP; 8580 Mana; 165 mana regen; 10 mp5; 214 spell crit; 110 spell hit; 942 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (996); 209 shadow dmg (1151); 4.82% dodge;[[ TBR: 1971 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29vkzu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mb3tb ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:59:34 2007 ]]
03:49.21ThraeBotYssaril: Yssaril vs Cillex! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 46/5/10 vs 5/45/11; Cillex wins by 108 TBRs!
03:49.22SaladForkBah, I'm jealous
03:49.27Xinhuani use TLC and Sextant
03:49.34SaladForkNice
03:49.38Xinhuan389 spellcrit rocks with that
03:49.49Yssaril!c us thunderhorn cillex
03:49.53Xinhuanand 111 spellhit is like 30+ over the hit cap
03:49.54ThraeBotYssaril: Cillex, Level 70 Human Warlock (5/45/11). 7818 HP; 7643 Mana; 133 mana regen; 10 mp5; 48 spell crit; 471 +spell dmg/heal; 137 shadow dmg (608); 4.36% dodge; 30 resilience;[[ TBR: 2179 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypehh4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yt2oj ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:57:33 2007 ]]
03:49.54SaladForkI've got DMC:C and ISC
03:50.09pub^!vs eu Al'Akir Pub eu Bloodscalp Pub
03:50.10Coreythats pretty hot
03:50.24SaladForkHell yeah
03:50.26Yssaril!c us kirin tor yssaril
03:50.27SaladForkCost me 4.5k to get DMC:C
03:50.44ThraeBotpub^: Pub vs Pub! A L70 rogue and a L70 warrior square off!; 20/41/0 vs 31/30/0; Pub wins by 333 TBRs!
03:50.50ThraeBotYssaril: Yssaril, Level 70 Undead Warlock (46/5/10). 8390 HP; 8290 Mana; 115 mana regen; 97 spell crit; 92 spell hit; 676 +spell dmg/heal; 72 frost dmg (748); 309 shadow dmg (985); 4.28% dodge; 4 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2071 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yntov ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2l5r3k ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:55:47 2007 ]]
03:50.51Corey!vs us thunderhorn expiation us thunderhorn zhort
03:50.54ThraeBotCorey: Expiation vs Zhort! A L70 druid and a L70 hunter square off!; 8/0/53 vs 0/46/15; Zhort wins by 612 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
03:51.01Coreylol
03:51.05Coreythat lies i beat him every time :D
03:51.13Xinhuanlol
03:51.18SaladForkHe has to l2play, XD
03:51.27SaladForkThough Thrae is still tinkering around with druids
03:51.30Coreyits his alt
03:51.34Coreyreal bad gear too
03:51.36Xinhuanwhy does it cost 4.5k to get a DMC:C?
03:51.42SaladForkResto druids right now get a really shit end of the stick
03:51.49Xinhuanit only costs like 500g max for all 8 cards on my server
03:51.54SaladForkXin - for some reason the Ace, Six, and Eight cards on my server are REALLLLLY expensive
03:52.01SaladForkThe six is impossible to find
03:52.05SaladForkIt went up for 1.5k gold in the AH yesterday
03:52.08SaladForkSold instantly
03:52.14Xinhuanhow many guilds on your server have killed at least a boss in SSC or TK?
03:52.15Yssarili think i got all my card for about 1kg
03:52.22SaladForkXin - Let me check, =P
03:52.29Xinhuanmine has 48 according to wowjuutsu
03:52.41SaladForkhttp://wowwiki.com/Server:Aerie_Peak_US/Level_70_raid_Progression
03:52.43Coreywould be cool if he added arena ratings
03:53.04Xinhuani doubt the wiki page is updated
03:53.10ulicThraeBot: ap 1350
03:53.11ThraeBotulic: Arena points from a rating of 1350 is, 2v2: 223, 3v3: 255, 5v5: 319
03:53.13SaladForkIt is, surprisingly
03:53.17Coreyim chattin here while i got the flag in WSG lol
03:53.19SaladForkMy realm's rather good with that
03:53.20Coreythats not workin well for my team
03:53.24SaladForkAnyway
03:53.25SaladForkhttp://wowjutsu.com/us/aeriepeak/
03:53.25Xinhuanbecause i know the page for my server's wiki is not updated
03:53.44SaladFork~8 in SSC or higher
03:54.18Xinhuanso 12 guilds
03:54.21Xinhuanfor your server ;p
03:54.27Xinhuancompared to the 48 on mine hehe
03:54.43Xinhuanhttp://wowjutsu.com/us/blackrock/
03:54.58Xinhuanso that accounts for the difference in economy
03:54.59JaxonSaladFork: http://wowjutsu.com/us/deathwing/  21 :\
03:55.01CoreyThraeBot: ap 1606
03:55.02ThraeBotCorey: Arena points from a rating of 1606 is, 2v2: 349, 3v3: 399, 5v5: 499
03:57.10CIA-1403javek * r47677 10Bidder_BossAuction/Bidder_BossAuction.toc:
03:57.10CIA-14Bidder_BossAuction:
03:57.10CIA-14-WowAceUpdater just wants the forum topic number
03:57.27Xinhuanwhat does that commit message mean? :o
03:57.44CIA-1403javek * r47678 10DKPmon_BossAuction/DKPmon_BossAuction.toc:
03:57.44CIA-14DKPmon_BossAuction:
03:57.44CIA-14-WowAceUpdater just wants the forum topic number
03:57.59WobWorkwell...
03:58.11WobWorkapparantly WowAceUpdater just wants the forum topic number =)
03:58.15JaxonIt looks like something named WoWAceUpdater wants topic number from the forums
03:58.21Funkeh`WobWork: LIES
03:58.28Xinhuanyou mean there's a TOC field for it?
03:58.39JaxonThere is for WoWAceUpdator
03:59.59Funkeh`Erm, it was for the wiki originally
04:00.04Funkeh`Not sure what WAU has to do with it
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04:12.35CIA-1403yssaril * r47679 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_GUI.lua YssGuildShop.toc):
04:12.35CIA-14YssGuildShop:
04:12.35CIA-14- removed extra code
04:12.35CIA-14- fixed 2 GUI bugs
04:18.04NightHawkTheSaneI want to shoot whoever designed the barrow den layout
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04:25.23Funkeh`NightHawkTheSane: Your mom did.
04:25.31NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: YOUR mom did.
04:25.39Funkeh`damn :(
04:25.58Shirik~lart Funkeh` and NightHawkTheSane
04:25.58purlbeats Funkeh` and NightHawkTheSane over the head with a microkernel
04:26.09Xinhuani can certainly imagine both your mums doing it together :)
04:26.09NightHawkTheSaneat least it was only a microkernel
04:26.12NightHawkTheSanelike Shirik's mom.
04:26.18Shirik=(
04:26.22Funkeh`Xinhuan: hahahahah
04:26.32NightHawkTheSaneXinhuan: .. win.
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05:08.49buuHey
05:09.02buuDoes anyone know of a mod that would make giant alerts based on npcs casting spells?
05:09.10buuI'm thinking specifically of fear variants in this case =]
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05:19.03ckknightI'm still thinking about the best way to have a keybinding control
05:19.39ckknightanyone have any suggestions?
05:20.22buuKeybinding control.. what?
05:21.32ckknightfor configuration
05:22.03ckknightsay an addon needs to specify a keybinding, what'd be the best way to receive the info?
05:22.14ckknightI was thinking a button that when pushed would capture the mouse/keyboard events
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05:22.51Yssarilanyone know of an addon that displays a grid on the screen so you can align you mods to it?
05:22.57NightHawkTheSaneckknight: have you looked at how spellbinder does it? that's not half bad (although it's not perfect)
05:23.03vithosYssaril: Align
05:23.08ckknightNightHawkTheSane: I'll take a look
05:23.15vithoshttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7231-Align.html
05:23.57Yssarilthanks vithos
05:24.52Cyre2ckknight: What about a library that just monitors keystrokes and such all the time and then an addon is all, "Yo, watchya got?"?
05:25.30ckknight...?
05:26.13Cyre2Like, it buffers a handful keystrokes and an addon can ask it about one.
05:26.57Cyre2Or an addon can ask the library to spit back the next one it sees.
05:28.01ckknightthat doesn't work, for one, not in the context Blizz allows
05:28.17ckknightfor two, I don't see the point
05:28.48Cyre2Yeah, it sounded a little crazy when I said it, lol.
05:31.50Cyre2Well, the only other thing I can think of is having a library for any keybindings you need to make.
05:32.23Cyre2Then an addon just needs to call the library and feed it a function and (optionally) a default key.
05:32.28Cyre2That possible?
05:33.17Cyre2Then it'd put the binding stuff in Blizz's thing.
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05:34.40kebinusanhmm, anyone in here have a guild that sells nether vortex? If so Im wondering what you typically charge
05:35.00Neeblerbind on pickup
05:35.32kebinusanyeah but much the same way people charge for primal nether
05:36.43Cyre2"Crafting __________.  xxg with your mats and my nether."
05:38.16Wobworkanyone able to test some cart waypoint code?
05:38.24NightHawkTheSane"Taking money to let you use my netheres! WOOOOO"
05:39.39Cyre2I'd love to but I'm not at home.
05:39.42Wobwork=(
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05:40.41Cyre2Not getting back till Saturday.
05:51.36NightHawkTheSane~seen vhaarr
05:51.46purlvhaarr <i=folk@ghybel696.krs.hia.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11d 8h 14m 25s ago, saying: 'you just need to read some code'.
05:51.55NightHawkTheSane11 days?!? /cry
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05:55.57Funkeh`later
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06:06.15ckknightNightHawkTheSane: he's been busy
06:06.28NightHawkTheSaneckknight: yeah, well i figured. :P
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06:11.02Wobworknobody? =(
06:11.03Wobworkfail
06:11.47NightHawkTheSaneWobwork: if i hadn't logged out for the night about ten minutes before you asked, i woudl
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06:12.15NightHawkTheSanetomorrow, though? :P
06:12.58nevcairieli would
06:13.07nevcairielif my servers werent on maintenance
06:16.22NimbleSo I have to know, why is it so many p2p programs are made in java
06:16.45the-golemwhy is anything done in java
06:17.13NightHawkTheSanethe-golem: i ask myself that every day. ><
06:17.55the-golem"because its portable" but then so is wxwidgets ^^
06:18.36nevcairielwxwidgets is fugly :x
06:19.36Wobworkyeah
06:19.38Wobworkbut it's not java
06:19.56Kaydeethreediffs of the very latest PTR build are now up: http://spyglass-server.com/wowints current build: 7175
06:20.29NightHawkTheSane"...Is that my stuff?" ".. You weren't using it anymore." "... yeah."
06:20.55ckknightthe-golem: it's like buttsecks
06:21.04ckknightportable to both sexes
06:21.40NightHawkTheSaneand either way, someone's getting fucked in the ass.
06:21.52NightHawkTheSanewow, that really sums up java.
06:21.57WobworkI've heard that analogy recently =P
06:22.20WobworkThat's right... comparing Java to Anal sex
06:22.40CIA-1403wobin * r47680 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (GuildPoint.lua Waypoints.lua):
06:22.40CIA-14Cartographer:
06:22.40CIA-14-All changes commented out due to not being able to test.
06:22.40CIA-14-Added in commented out code for making GuildPoint more efficient
06:22.40CIA-14-Added in commented out code for reversing the addition order (send to end of queue) of waypoint queueing
06:22.51Wobworkwow that took a long time to send
06:24.01nevcairielsvn is teh slow
06:24.16ThraeWobwork: You should have just made an "unstable" or "untested" branch for later merging, after testing
06:24.38NightHawkTheSaneindeed. branches are the point of svn :P
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06:24.50WobworkThrae: aye
06:24.57Wobworkbut I can't be bothered right now =)
06:25.08WobworkSince all I really need to do is store it til I get home
06:25.43WobworkAnd svn's merging causes me headaches at the best of times
06:26.00ThraeHaha
06:26.15ThraeWAU people are going to love getting updates in the next X minutes of commented out code :D
06:26.21Wobwork=P
06:26.28WobworkWell it won't affect anything =)
06:26.33ckknightmeh
06:26.43Thrae<Kaelten> Good use of bandwidth...
06:26.52WobworkTherefore it won't hurt them
06:27.01NightHawkTheSaneWobwork: learning to branch and merge effectivly is the final step toward true subversion ascension.
06:27.04ckknightso...
06:27.07ckknightback to anal se
06:27.10ckknightx
06:27.14ckknightdamn x key
06:27.33NightHawkTheSane"Is it really necessary to further antagonize them?" "... Yes."
06:27.38WobworkNightHawkTheSane: the esotericness puts me off. We just need a simple merging tool that does it for us
06:27.45Wobworkesoterocity?
06:28.13NightHawkTheSaneit's not really that esoteric once you understand the underlying concept :P
06:28.27WobworkIt's still a fairly complex set of actions
06:28.36NightHawkTheSaneno really, though
06:28.38Wobworkwhich I don't care to go through on the command line
06:29.11NightHawkTheSanei mean, worst case it's one command to copy to a branch, then you do your commits, then another command to merge back
06:29.12WobworkGranted, it's a lot simpler since it's a branch on a program that only I'm editing
06:29.23Wobworkbut it's the principle of the matter =P
06:29.35ckknightbranches will be a lot easier when we get separate svns
06:29.50ckknightseeing as now you have to create a funky directory structure
06:29.55NightHawkTheSaneckknight: separate from what?
06:30.00nevcairielfrom you.
06:30.08ckknightnot everything in one big trunk
06:30.11NightHawkTheSanemeh, svn copy is pretty smart about directory creation
06:30.17WobworkI've just had headaches here at work where I've had to commit changes to a branch from the trunk then merge the branch back to the trunk
06:30.44Wobworkand the tortoisesvn interface wasn't overly ... helpful
06:31.03nevcairielheh
06:31.08nevcairielnah its not
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06:31.20nevcairielaltho merging and branching i pretty much figured out =)
06:32.00NightHawkTheSaneWobwork: at my last job, committing to a bugfix branch and merging changes over to trunk was par for the course, so i got a lot of practice. :P
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06:34.48break19website fall down go boom. :/
06:38.19ckknightseems to work for me
06:40.42break19weird..
06:40.46break19runnin a traceroute
06:41.01ramozgah
06:41.07ramozwhy cant the put out the stupid patch!
06:41.28break19real weird. trace shows no issues.
06:41.46break19but.. Safari could not open the page ?http://files.wowace.com/? because the server stopped responding.
06:42.09ckknighthrm, looks like files is down
06:42.16ckknightyou should be more specific when ranting
06:42.35break19you havent seen me rant.. trust me.. you'd know if I were :)
06:43.13nevcairielramoz: thats easy, because its still bugging
06:44.12Nimblecustom channel chat is going to be FUN
06:44.18NightHawkTheSanenevcairiel: or, alternately, "because it's not ready yet"
06:44.33break19kael needs to add a flies.wowace.com - and in big bold letters "ITS FILES, NOT FLIES YOU MORON" that'd be funny. I'd make typos just for the hell of it.
06:45.28kadrahilheh... are there boots that match the cloth tuxedo shirt and pants?
06:45.29ramoznevcairiel: i want new flask and new sword! :O
06:45.50ramozkadrahil: there are some black leatherboots that match them
06:45.53ramozcant remember the name tbh
06:48.17nevcairielwhat new sword?
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06:52.31ckknightbreak19: files looks up now
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06:53.14Yssarilis files.wowace.com down?
06:53.26nevcairielits a bit lagging
06:53.31nevcairielshould be getting better now
06:54.12Yssarilwhat happened?
06:55.28break19slooooow. but yea. its up
06:55.35nevcairielgoblins.
06:55.37nevcairielyou know.
06:56.02break19bah, when nev starts blaming goblins... you *know* it was him
06:56.34Yssarillol
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06:59.30kadrahilramoz: sorceror slippers of the whale work perfectly
06:59.41Yssarilhmmm what happend to buffalo2 i jsut see buffalo?
06:59.48Yssariland dont say goblins
07:00.06break19no.. that really -was- the goblins that time..
07:00.37break19my guess? buffalo1 was deleted and buffalo2 renamed to buffalo ?
07:00.57Yssarilhmmm
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07:01.36cncfanaticsyo all
07:05.32Yssarilnope thats deffinatly the old buffalo (damn goblins)
07:06.34Yssarilcan anyone recomend a buff/debuff addon?
07:06.48OlisonElkBuffBars
07:07.33cncfanaticseh, how do you switch profiles again with acedb ?
07:07.42nevcairielSetProfile
07:08.12cncfanaticsk
07:08.41cncfanaticshmmm I also got to make a decent caching function to reuse frames
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07:09.41cncfanaticsif I call SetProfile on let's say my mage
07:09.53cncfanaticsprofile wont get changed for my priest right?
07:10.01nevcairielright
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07:22.07the-golemhmmm
07:22.12the-golemwho does the work on Parrot?
07:22.56the-golemthe frames that are used during the configuration mode are not clickthru when out of config mode
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07:23.54Yssarilparrot would be one of ckknight's creations
07:24.24the-golemi see
07:24.41ckknightwhen in config mode or not in config mode?
07:26.00[Ammo]he goes in config -> enablemouse then exists config and enable mouse isn't removed I think
07:26.49sag_ich_nichtKirkburn you there?
07:27.17Kirkburni am
07:27.26ramozkadrahil: there are some leatherboots looking just like Boots of the Shadow Flame, just in black - cant remember the name, lvl40 ish
07:27.46ckknightno, the boxes themselves are hidden
07:29.13Mech0zck are you updating pitbull anymore?
07:29.26Kirkburnsag_ich_nicht, ping
07:29.37ckknightMech0z: yea, why?
07:29.58Mech0zwell there just thought I heard you didnt use time on  it anymore
07:30.08Mech0zand I hear there is some aura performance issues
07:30.41sag_ich_nichtKirkburn: any planed features for clearfont2, like not just registering with SML but also using fonts registered with SML, or chosing different fonts for different things? :P
07:31.37KirkburnNo planned features, unless someone adds them :P
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07:32.03KirkburnDon't have the time to learn lua atm, what with wowwiki, wikia and Uni :)
07:32.10sag_ich_nichtKirkburn: maybe you should add the features :P
07:32.41sag_ich_nichti had to commentout half of Designs.lua yesterday to change just the font of the chatframe and nothing else
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07:33.38KirkburnI haven't played wow for a month, and I haven't had access to coding for the same :P
07:33.56sag_ich_nichtgeez
07:34.01sag_ich_nichtyou should change that
07:34.12KirkburnI will do, I have a flight in 12 hours
07:34.58sag_ich_nicht:P
07:35.14KirkburnA 10 hours flight ><
07:35.50sag_ich_nichtwhere you headed, and where you at at the moment?
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07:36.41KirkburnMenlo Park, CA .... back to Bristol UK
07:37.04orionshockevening everyone
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07:37.48orionshockive got a "out of wow" lua programing question
07:39.23Punkie`~asktoask
07:39.23purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
07:39.49orionshocklol, slight delay upstairs atm..
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07:40.44CIA-1403tsigo * r47681 10Cutup/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
07:40.44CIA-14Cutup:
07:40.44CIA-14- embeds.xml and modules.xml
07:40.44CIA-14- (Julienne) Increase max dimensions to 600x50.
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07:44.19sag_ich_nicht[09:37] <orionshock> ive got a "out of wow" lua programing question <-- /join #lua
07:44.28orionshockgood idea
07:44.56orionshockthx sag_ich_nicht
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07:47.03orionshock:D well i guess i answered my own question
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08:00.12cncfanaticswhats the default profile that AceDB saves in called ?
08:00.25Ominous_Default
08:00.53cncfanaticsand how would I access that profile without activating it ?
08:00.57cncfanaticsself.db.profile.Default ?
08:01.26Ominous_that wouldnt work, i dont know
08:01.31CIA-1403wobin 07Wobin * r47682 10MrPlow/PlowEngine.lua: MrPlow - cutting down
08:02.06the-golemsorry, was playing
08:02.59cncfanaticsanyone ?
08:03.11the-golemckknight: when i *uncheck* the configmode, the boxes disappear just fine .. they dont move or anything. but they aren't clickthrough
08:03.32the-golemer
08:03.56the-golemnot sure what you would call it, but it disables mouse functions
08:04.12ckknightcncfanatics: you don't
08:04.32the-golemthats why i couldnt move part of EBB earlier ...
08:04.33cncfanaticsckknight, how would I do this then ?
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08:04.50CIA-1403laric * r47683 10AoFDKP/AoFDKP_sets.lua:
08:04.50CIA-14AoFDKP :
08:04.50CIA-14- Some more set items
08:04.56cncfanaticsI'm moving from using profiles to using char dependant settings, how would I copy the old profile, then delete it ?
08:07.54the-golemckknight: it interferes with looting, mining, click-targeting ...
08:08.53[Ammo]cncfanatics: read Violation it does that
08:09.34cncfanaticsjust need to copy old profiles over so users dont lose their settings with the change
08:09.36the-golemif theres some simple setting that i failed to notice, i'd love for someone to point it out to me ^^
08:09.37cncfanaticssec [Ammo]
08:10.04[Ammo]violation does exactly that
08:10.12cncfanaticslovely
08:10.19cncfanaticsany pointer to what lines & what file to look at ? :)
08:10.27[Ammo]the core file
08:10.35[Ammo]and check around OnInit and OnEnable
08:10.44[Ammo]it does profile copying if someone had an obsolete profile
08:11.00[Ammo]if you want the exact info on the why and how, ask Mikk, he wrote it and he fixed AceDB up a bit
08:11.49the-golembah i hafta get KLH cuz thats what the guild uses :-(
08:12.08cncfanaticsI just noticed that for a bar addon, profiles are extremely anoying, rather use "char"
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08:14.07[Ammo]cncfanatics: I use the same profile for all my chars
08:14.40cncfanatics[Ammo] most people won't want to for flexbar though, it saves spells internaly too, so having the same profile for all means u have the same spells for all :)
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08:15.02abbat_wMorning guys
08:15.16cncfanaticsmorning
08:15.24cncfanaticshmmm, fisheye is slow today ?
08:15.25abbat_wGuys, i have a question ;)
08:15.26cncfanaticsor is it my internet ?
08:15.59abbat_wIt's ok if i hook some event twice from different modules of one mod?
08:16.17cncfanaticsjust make both modules inherit AceEvent ?
08:16.28cncfanaticsbut u cant both make them hook it from the core
08:16.29abbat_wFor example, one module process debuffs, one module process casts. Both need to hook same event
08:16.35[Ammo]hook?
08:16.36[Ammo]event?
08:16.40[Ammo]I think you're confused
08:16.46abbat_wnope, Ammo
08:16.59abbat_wMaybe my english bad, but i'm not confused ;)
08:17.03[Ammo]yes you are
08:17.09silentiumhttp://files.wowace.com/ Last updated Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:40:04 +0000. <- seems to have stopped updating 3.5 hours ago
08:17.11[Ammo]hooking events is something you never need to do
08:17.26cncfanaticsthink its "registering" events abbat_w ?
08:17.28abbat_wUNIT_SPELLCAST_START
08:17.31abbat_wthis one
08:17.35[Ammo]you don't hook that
08:17.35cncfanaticsthats registering
08:17.37[Ammo]you register for it
08:17.51cncfanaticsabbat_w, both modules should inherit from AceEvent-2.0 and ur fine
08:18.01abbat_wcncfanatics, sure they do
08:18.06cncfanaticsthen where's the prob ?
08:18.22abbat_wNo prob, i just don't know about efficienty
08:18.45cncfanaticsits not unefficient as far as I know
08:18.53cncfanaticsI do it all the time heh
08:19.23abbat_wah
08:19.26TheKarnall it means is whenever the event is triggered, both your handlers and the other registered handlers are processed
08:19.26abbat_wso, thats nice
08:19.51abbat_wI know what both be processed. But data structures be created twice?
08:20.06TheKarnits the same with any method call
08:20.18abbat_wah, thanks
08:20.28cncfanaticshttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Violation/Violation.lua?r=46157 refuses to load :(
08:20.31TheKarnif you're using a new table in each event handler, use a temporary table instead and reuse it
08:20.40[Ammo]you could use a normal checkout?
08:20.42[Ammo]or a files download
08:20.48CIA-1403deccard * r47684 10MiniChat/MiniChat.toc:
08:20.48CIA-14MiniChat:
08:20.48CIA-14- toc change
08:20.57cncfanaticsi'm dl'ing files atm
08:21.02cncfanaticsbut my 10kb/s internet sucks
08:21.03abbat_wAnd btw, any news about Joker? :)
08:21.06cncfanaticsbandwiths limit ftl
08:21.13cncfanaticsusualy at 400
08:21.13TheKarnah shit ... bus leaves in 10mins and i'm not even dressed yet.
08:21.16TheKarnwork=gay
08:21.33cncfanaticshehe, TheKarn, how else ur gonna get ur moneyz to pay for ur internet & wow ? :p
08:21.41abbat_wTheKarn, thanks. Can you point me with good examples of this case? With tmp table ;)
08:23.08[Ammo]the svn is full of examples on event handling
08:24.44cncfanatics[Ammo], if I do SetProfile("char"); will self.db.char by different per character ?
08:24.56cncfanaticss/self.db.char/self.db.profile/
08:25.28TheKarnabbat_w: sanityitemcache uses temp tables
08:25.30TheKarnhave a look in that
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08:26.03ckknightabbat_w: what news do you expect?
08:28.19[Ammo]cncfanatics: I dunno exactly, like I said, I know violation copies profile, and uses per char atm
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08:33.39cncfanaticsdamn offline server
08:35.11abbat_wckknight, hi ;) maybe something about beta versions etc
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08:35.28ckknightah
08:35.35ckknightcurrently I'm waiting on LibStub to be finalized
08:37.05abbat_wTheKarn, thanks. Going to look
08:39.10the-golemlol ckknight is avoiding me :P
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08:39.34ckknightwatching x-files
08:40.19cncfanaticsi'm waiting for servers to go back online lol
08:40.57CIA-1403laric * r47685 10AoFDKP/AoFDKP_sets.lua:
08:40.57CIA-14AoFDKP :
08:40.57CIA-14- T5 / T6 sets completed
08:41.05Laricis there any good tool to edit lua tables? Or is it manual hacking the text files that is the best way?
08:41.17abbat_w;)
08:41.35abbat_wyou ask about .lua in wtf folder?
08:41.58abbat_wwhere mods store settings?
08:42.24Laricnot really. I am working on some loot lists that I want to edit in my addon. But using the editor isnt really an efficient way to do it
08:42.40abbat_wah
08:43.10cncfanaticsg'old text editors
08:44.21Laricdoes it matter in any way if the 'key' in a lua table isnt sorted in the addon? Or does lua resort it automaticly?
08:44.55abbat_wnot automatically but you can sort table
08:46.18abbat_weven if you sort keys in file, in real table keys be in random order (if i wasn't wrong)
08:46.22Laricdiff topic. Who is handling the svn repos these days? I have 2 .exe files in the svn that I cannot modify nor delete from the repos
08:46.55CIA-1403cncfanatics * r47686 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Settings are now saved on a per character base
08:47.10ckknightwhy do you have exe files on the svn?
08:47.32abbat_wit's a good trojan horses which stole you l/p ;)
08:47.39Laricthey are used to get the data from the dkp sites into my addons
08:50.44[Ammo].sh .bat .exe etc are restricted
08:52.33Laricok trying to commit a removal of those files
08:52.53Laricnot allowed :(
08:53.04[Ammo]which files are that
08:53.07[Ammo]I can remove them for you
08:53.56[Ammo]the aofdkp.exe and the other .exe in there?
08:54.12[Ammo]updatedkp.exe dkp.exe and updatedkp.exe.config?
08:54.24Laricthanks alot
08:54.59Laricgonna add a readme to explain it and where to get them if they want to have them
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08:56.22[Ammo]it's committing
08:56.22CIA-1403ammo * r47687 10AoFDKP/ (5 files): AoFDKP: remove exe bat dll etc for Laric
08:56.31LaricThanks
09:05.32Vegeta]BT[Is there a possibility to save all Options of an Ace UI inside a Profile, so that you could just load it when you login with another character ?
09:08.16orionshock... sink lib wiki is gone :(
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09:14.32orionshocknever mind figured it out :D
09:16.05orionshock~seen Nebelmond
09:16.07purlorionshock: i haven't seen 'nebelmond'
09:16.18doktoreashow can i set B key to open all bags of sanity bag?
09:17.52orionshockdoktoreas: does shift b open all the bags of sanity?
09:18.30doktoreasi'll check it out
09:18.32doktoreasthank you
09:18.33orionshockif so you can just reMap the open all bags in teh default ui
09:18.40cncfanaticshow to checkout an addon without externals again ?
09:18.54orionshockcncfanatics: carefuly
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09:19.21Jaxoncncfanatics: $ svn co --ignore-externals <url>
09:22.20cncfanaticsorionshock, saves bandwith :)
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09:25.14cncfanaticsbtw, its my 18th birthday today !!!!!
09:25.31Olisonhappy birthday cncfanatics =)
09:25.56orionshock...
09:26.06orionshockhappy b-day cncfanatics ...
09:27.06Vegeta]BT[happy b-day :)
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09:29.17silentiumhappy get older day \o/
09:30.41CIA-1403hegarol * r47688 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
09:30.41CIA-14AtlasLoot:
09:30.41CIA-14- New loot table for all BT Patterns
09:30.55CIA-1403hegarol * r47689 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
09:30.55CIA-14AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
09:30.55CIA-14- New loot table for all BT Patterns
09:36.21orionshockanyone on the EU servers?
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09:36.47[dRaCo]yeah
09:36.48Olisonorionshock: yeah i am
09:36.48Schmidt_hello
09:37.24orionshocki'd like to touch base with an author, if he's still there, about OptiTaunt by Nebelmond (EU-Die silberne Hand)
09:37.58Schmidt_Shoot, I joined the wrong channel. lol
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09:38.10Olison[11:37:58] <Olison> !ar Nebelmond Die silberne Hand
09:38.10Olison[11:38:00] <MrUseful> Nebelmond, 70 Night Elf Druid (0/18/43, Restoration) <S E S> | HP: 5904 MP: 6545 Resilience: 0 (-0.00%) | +Healing: 606 # Mana Regen(Casting): 80 | http://tinyurl.com/38zghg
09:38.12Olisonseems so :>
09:38.34abbat_w5904hp?
09:38.44orionshockthats what i was gona say..
09:39.03Olisonwhat do you want me to tell him? like a contact info?
09:39.07[dRaCo]green quest equipment, I'd say.
09:39.11Olisonhe has most of his gear unequipped
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09:40.12abbat_wuh, eepanels2 ;)
09:40.17orionshockwell if he could - shoot me an email at OrionShock@gmail.com - ive got a patch / update to optiTaunt
09:40.47orionshocklooking for permission to update it or if he wants to do it
09:41.00Olisonokay
09:41.04Olisonlooking if hes online
09:42.01Olisonno :(
09:42.21orionshock:(
09:43.19orionshockwell in related news... it seems that the deep scans of the armory to supplement tattle seems to have attracted a little attention :\
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09:44.32orionshockand i was wondering if anyone had any sort of opinion on why i should / shouldn't put out a .zip / .bat script that will allow just about anyone to do this on their own :D
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09:46.16JaxonPeople don't trust them and don't understand them
09:49.08Olisonorionshock: why, what kind of attention?
09:50.47orionshocka few requests here and there.. and one for a "kit" that'll let him do it himself
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09:51.16orionshocktbh i'd like to just compile the dataminer.lua in to a Win32.exe ... but i don't see that happening any time soon
09:51.31Olisonofcourse not, what about mac users
09:51.57orionshockwell... that's where the idea of "being shafted" comes into play :P
09:52.07orionshocksorry not a mac user atm
09:52.24Olisonmhm
09:52.54Olisondoes tattle get the gear of players? or what do you mean by deepscan? (never used it)
09:53.17orionshocktattle - feed information into gladiator and on to your tooltip about players
09:53.32orionshockboth horde and alliance
09:53.52orionshockcatch is that it only grabs the top 300 per bracket per battegroup
09:54.12orionshockit collects Arena Team's , ranking and spec
09:54.56Olisonah, the teaminfo, right. i thought it would get their stats etc
09:55.22orionshockjust spec, the DeepScans get the top 5k per bracket on a given battlegroup
09:56.21orionshockthe origional 300's take up about ~300k in game? iirc, and the deep scans .. well ... bout 6mb
09:57.23orionshock~nevcairiel
09:57.24purlmethinks nevcairiel is 'awesome'
09:57.30orionshock~seen nevcairiel
09:57.32purlnevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge (3h 50m 37s) #wowace (3h 50m 37s). Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 2h 47m 31s, last said: 'right'.
09:58.32orionshockwell im off to sleep
09:58.34orionshockttyl
09:58.44orionshock~i hate you purl
09:58.45purlYou hate you purl?
09:58.48orionshock;P
09:59.11CIA-1403kunda * r47690 10ClosetGnome/locales/deDE.lua: ClosetGnome: deDE update: unicode, lines equal to enUS, added missing translations, minor grammar/punctuation fixes
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10:03.31neeneeCode monkey like you..... a lot
10:03.34neeneeHi everyone.
10:03.36neeneeLong time no see.
10:12.26ckknighthey neenee
10:13.25neeneeHello
10:13.34neeneeWhat are you doing in here?
10:13.46neeneeI didn't know you played
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10:15.39ThelynaI just picked an addon up from a friend .... ergh
10:16.05Thelynait has tables for player name and player class
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10:17.10Thelynalike name[1] = "Thelyna" class[1] = "Paladin" name[2] = "Moralda" class[2] = "Priest"
10:17.28Thelynatrying to sort the name table alphabetically is going to be a nightmare isn't it?
10:17.47Thelynatime to redefine the data structure I think
10:17.49Xinhuanwhy would it be a nightmare?
10:17.53Nargiddleywont be too bad
10:18.15Thelynaexcept I need to swap around stuff in the class table as well
10:18.31NickenyfikenIs there different tables for different data?
10:18.33Xinhuanhow big is this table?
10:18.38Thelyna25 people
10:18.43Xinhuanwell if its 25 at most
10:18.53Nargiddleyyou could create a 3rd table filled with the keys, sort that based on the name table
10:18.55Xinhuanjust write your own sort
10:18.55Nickenyfikeni mean is there one table for name and another for class and so on?
10:19.04Xinhuanand swap them manually
10:19.08Thelynawhat I could do is just sort the name table then just use GetRaidRosterInfo to rebuild the class table
10:19.15Xinhuanlike insertion sort or bubble sort
10:19.57Thelynaand swap elements of both tables at the same time .. makes sense
10:21.01Nickenyfikenwhy not have a table for each player containing both name and class?
10:21.02ThelynaNickenyfiken: yeah, there's a table of names, a table of classes, and a table of positions (writing a mod for Gruul positioning)
10:21.10Thelynathat's what I'm thinking
10:21.35Thelynait's a horrid data structure
10:22.16Nickenyfiken{ { name = "bill", class = "rogue" }, { name = "bull", class = "mage" } }
10:22.40Thelynathen player[1].name == "bill", right?
10:22.49Thelynamy LUA is a little rough
10:22.49[Ammo]<PROTECTED>
10:24.02Thelyna[Ammo]: need to be able to store class and position (number between 1 and 25) with a player
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10:24.20[Ammo]nvm then
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10:24.43Thelynait's gunna be a bit of a bitch to rewrite
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10:24.49Thelynano time like the present though
10:24.53Nargiddleyyou could have { ['bill'] = 'rogue', ['bob'] = 'hunter',[1] = 'bob',[2] = 'bill' }
10:28.45Thelynahm ... time to look at some LUA tutorials on the web I think
10:30.33Xinhuanwriting your own sort function that swaps the values in both tables is better if it means you don't have to rewrite huge chunks of code for the new structure
10:31.53Thelynahow it is currently strikes me as really bad design
10:32.12Thelynabut meh, it's a standalone reasonably private addon
10:34.25Thelynathree seperate tables for data relating to players just strikes me as ... ugh.
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10:35.37neeneeHm.. For some reason, the keybind 'M' to Cartographer, when pressed, after it has opened Cartographer, doesn't close it. Instead, it shows a slightly altered Cartographer. Does anyone know what that is?
10:35.44Psylohi nevcairiel are you there ?
10:36.13Hajitorusneenee: conflicting/multiple map mods?
10:36.40neeneeI only use Cartographer
10:36.55neeneeIt's a clean install even
10:37.01Nargiddleyits a feature
10:38.22Nargiddley2 different setups, never used it so cant remember how to turn it off
10:41.19Nargiddleywhat is your m key bound to ?
10:41.40Nargiddleythe Cartographer keybinding thats there is open alternate map which behaves like that
10:41.49Nargiddleynormal map hotkey is open/close
10:42.05Thelynaargh ... what's the syntax for a multiline comment in LUA again? [[-  -]]  ?
10:42.16Nargiddley--[[ ]]
10:42.48Thelynathat would explain why my pseudo-code for insertion sort wasn't commented out
10:45.25ckknightneenee: alt-m opens and changes profile
10:45.35ckknightm should just open/close
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10:52.44neeneeHm.
10:52.51neeneeI'll check my binds again
10:53.37neeneeHm..
10:53.44neeneeIt's as if I have Cartographer installed twice
10:53.49neeneeVery odd
10:53.56neeneeM just switched between the two
10:54.33neeneeBut as soon as I unbind Open Alternate Map, M does nothing.
10:55.04neeneePerhaps it's because of very old settings. Let me delete those.
10:55.10Nargiddleybind it to the default Open Map
10:56.35neeneeHm. still the same.
10:56.58neeneeBut M now switches between showing the notes and not showing them
10:57.36neeneeAh yes, setting it to the default map thing works
10:57.54neeneeStill, that was quite odd.
10:57.55neeneeThanks.
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11:07.58Psylonevcairiel ?
11:12.37CIA-1403somerset * r47691 10ChanList/ (4 files):
11:12.37CIA-14ChanList
11:12.37CIA-14- fixed tabs with ctraid
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11:15.46sylvaan_workgood morning
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11:22.21Industrialsup with wowace?
11:24.14Psylonevcairiel ?
11:24.35Industrialits being REALLY slow for me
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11:26.16abbat_wGuys, it is possible to output messages to default_chat_frame and log it into wowchatlog.txt?
11:26.56abbat_wmy messages won't be logged. i see msgs in frame but not in log
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11:29.00Industrialcould someone verify that (files.)wowace.com is slow atm?
11:29.20Saislooks like it
11:29.24Industrialthanks
11:29.26abbat_wyep
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11:34.20Psylonevcairiel ?
11:36.20IndustrialPsylo: hell get back to you when he reads it, IRC isnt instant :p
11:36.23abbat_wbtw guys
11:36.31abbat_wsomeone know good lua ide for windows?
11:36.43abbat_wcommercial or shareware or free - doesn't matter
11:37.20Industrialabbat_w: lua is a language designed to be embedded for small configurations - theres no ide specifically for it
11:37.27Industrialits small fry amongst languages :P
11:37.53IndustrialI recommend vim (vim.org), as a code editor but thats probably not what you are looking for.
11:38.16[Ammo]edit ~= ide
11:38.59Industrialwhat's there to integrate with lua?
11:39.07Industrialedit and ide overlap, btw :P
11:39.27abbat_wlua.exe and output window ;)
11:39.32abbat_walso some debugger
11:41.35Industrialhttp://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=1763
11:41.58neeneeHm. Cartographer still has the buttons at the top, I'll stick to my modified version of Alphamap for now.
11:42.38Industrialneenee: were the buttons going to get removes?
11:42.40Industrialremoved*
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11:43.59IndustrialWho's in control of files.wowace.com?
11:44.12Industrialpastamancer: =D?
11:44.19neeneeIndustrial - nope.
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11:44.43neeneeOr rather, no one else seemed to mind them there ;)
11:45.01Industrialwhat else would you want there
11:45.16NeeblerI ONCE HAD A CAT NAMED JONAHTAN. JONATHAN WAS A NEAT CAT. HE HAD NO EYELIDS AND PREFERRED TO WALK BACKWARDS. SOMETIMES I WOULF BITE HIS EAR. HE WOULD SCRATH ME AND IT HURT. THE END. THANKS
11:45.41IndustrialNeebler: gogo roommate irc attack?
11:45.52neeneeNo, not something added, but the buttons removed/invisible
11:46.19Psylosomeone use bt3 ?
11:46.23abbat_wme
11:46.34neeneeHm.
11:46.46Psylodo you have the priest book of the low town abbat_w ?
11:47.00Psylodon't know the name in english ... this is a trinkrt
11:47.04Psylotrinket
11:47.10abbat_whmm.. nope. i'm mage, not a priest
11:47.26Psyloyou have no problems with trinkets and bt3 ?
11:47.33abbat_wall work ok
11:47.38Psylook thx
11:47.40abbat_wwhat a problem you have?
11:48.45Psyloi can't use the the trinket "priest book of the low town" when in a bartender3 bar, nothing happen when i click on it or if i click on the keyboard shortcut
11:48.54Psyloall my other trinkets works well
11:49.40Industrialdoes it work from the character panel/
11:50.04Soleare you sure its an activated trinket?
11:50.19PsyloIndustrial yes it works from charac panel
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11:50.25PsyloSole lol yes
11:50.32Gngskthat's a sweet translation "priest book of the low town"
11:50.47Industrialjust eliminating possibilities :p
11:50.53Gngskeverywhere like such as
11:50.59Psylothis is the trinket for healer reputations rewards from the low town
11:51.25Psyloyou should know it ^^
11:51.31GngskI do
11:51.47GngskI just got finished watching the miss teen usa south carolina debaucle and it makes 100% more sense than she could ever have hoped to
11:51.49SolePsylo: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30841  ?
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11:52.15SoleGngsk: its hilarious
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11:52.23Gngskyes, very
11:52.23PsyloSole yes this is one
11:52.57SolePsylo: just use TrinketMenu, I prefer it over putting my trinkets on the action bar
11:53.01SolePsylo: but thats my preference
11:53.19Soleanyway, sleep time  peace
11:53.20Gngskyou could make a trinket macro
11:53.26Gngsk/use 13
11:53.32Gngskwill use whatever is in top trinket
11:53.57abbat_wwait for 2.2 patch and make a macro: #show 13 #showtooltip 13 /use 13
11:54.13abbat_wthis sould work for every trinket in upper slot
11:54.18cncfanatics#showtooltip 13 /use 13
11:54.20cncfanaticswould do too
11:54.23abbat_wnope
11:54.28Psyloi wikk try thank's
11:54.41abbat_wwhat icon be used if you skip 'show'?
11:55.36abbat_wif i remember correctly, now #show 13 broken and you see not a trinket icon but just '?'
11:55.39CIA-1403cncfanatics * r47692 10FlexBar2/Action/Action.lua:
11:55.39CIA-14FlexBar2:
11:55.39CIA-14Action.lua:
11:55.39CIA-14<PROTECTED>
11:56.23Psylo#showtooltip 13 /use 13 don't work and i see the icon "?" not the trinket icon
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11:57.10abbat_wPsylo, now feature to show icon broken. Fixed at ptr
11:57.22abbat_wSame for showtooltip
11:57.34abbat_wyou can use /use 13 as Gnsk say
11:58.07Psylo./use 13 don't work too
11:58.23abbat_wghm...
11:58.40abbat_wyou equip trinket in upper slot?
11:58.44Psylomy fault it works
11:59.16Psylo#showtooltip will work with 2.2 ?
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12:00.47abbat_wyes
12:00.56abbat_wand #show x also
12:01.20abbat_wYou should make a macro with '?' icon and write #show 13 as first string
12:01.26Psylois there an option to don't show the macro name on the button ?
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12:01.42abbat_wEven if you change trinket to another, wow client correctly change icon
12:02.06abbat_wPsylo, turn off macro names in bt3 settings for you bar
12:02.49Psylook thank's
12:03.24Psylothis is strange that only this trinket don't work with bt3
12:04.09Psylothe patch 2.2 will be apply tomorrow ?
12:04.18ramozno
12:04.19abbat_wno
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12:04.27abbat_wpossible 2-3 weeks
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12:04.40Psyloerf :/
12:04.46ramozis it correct that 2.2 will not contain Zul'Aman?
12:05.12Psyloi need the new craft for leatherworking for feral druid ^^
12:05.22Pkekyog'mornin all
12:05.32Psyloand attack range correction for cat form
12:05.56abbat_wramoz, Zul'Aman in 2.3
12:06.09abbat_win 2.2 bugfixes, voice chat and something else
12:06.09ramozgay gay gay
12:06.18ramozguildbank
12:06.18IndustrialMeeuuuh   r36715  2007-08-17 09:25:28  Yell Meeuuuh (Moo) when zoning. (Capoker)
12:06.19ramoz?
12:06.21Industrial...
12:06.29Industrialwhy does this even exist?
12:06.33ramozlol?
12:06.58abbat_wramoz, possible, don't remember.
12:07.12HjalteIndustrial, it's the "hello world" of wow addons for someone i guess :P
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12:07.35Industrialyeah but why svn it?
12:07.42cncfanaticsto waste disk space?
12:07.49omegaperhaps its the svn hello world of someone :p
12:07.56Industrialtheres a sandbox
12:08.18Industrial(afaik)
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12:13.24Zarielhow would you go about getting ones resiliance and max hp?
12:14.20JoshBorke~framexml
12:14.21purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/
12:14.28IndustrialUnitHealthMax('player')
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12:17.32Zarielye industrial got that part but the resiliance
12:18.17Industrialno idea :3
12:19.01Psyloabbat_w the problem with the macro is that the cooldown of the trinket is not show on the button :/
12:20.22Zarielgratuity or something i guess
12:21.34Psylois there a way to show the cooldown of the trinket on the button of a macro who use the trinket ?
12:22.07WobinI think that Meeeugh addon was an inside guild joke
12:23.29CIA-1403cncfanatics * r47693 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua:
12:23.29CIA-14FlexBar2:
12:23.29CIA-14Attributes.lua
12:23.29CIA-14<PROTECTED>
12:27.49Pkekyosweet, new shipment of DVDs just arrived :>
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12:33.16cncfanaticsu actualy buy them ? :o
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12:34.55neeneeHe might mean empty DVDs.. you steal those?
12:36.40baer_hmm... someone knows an addon or extension to cellular in which i can create a temporary ignorelist for all non-guild players and/or all lvl 1-14 chars, while being in a mayor city.
12:37.12baer_!c eu Todeswache Gingles
12:37.17ThraeBotbaer_: Gingles, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (0/21/40). 7035 HP; 8492 Mana; 108 mana regen; 4 mp5; 278 spell crit; 177 spell hit; 728 +spell dmg; 172 arcane dmg (900); 221 fire dmg (949); 4.47% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1605 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cn87q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34f7sl ][ Updated: Wed Aug 29 08:47:37 2007 ]]
12:37.34baer_look at my class and you might understand what's the problem is. :)
12:38.12Pkekyocncfanatics: aye, I actually buy movies!
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12:42.00baer_no one?
12:42.02CIA-1403pb_ee1 * r47694 10ChatLog/ (ChatLog.toc Locale-deDE.lua): ChatLog: Adding back deDE localization.
12:42.09neeneebaer - doesn't exist
12:42.16pb_ee1Is there a documentation on wowace that explains how to rename an existing addon on the SVN?
12:42.20baer_damn.
12:42.46mitch01pb: svn mv http://dev.wowace.com/trunk/oldname http://dev.wowace.com/trunk/newname
12:42.59mitch01and rename the files, too
12:43.04mitch01(if needed)
12:43.21pb_ee1is it the same thing than using the "relocate" function of tortoisesvn?
12:43.26neeneebaer - but you can remove say/yell from your chat windows
12:43.36mitch01pb: no idea, never used tortoise
12:43.38pb_ee1(they should have a command line client anyway)
12:43.52pb_ee1thanks mitch01, i'm noting this ;)
12:48.20CIA-1403pb_ee1 * r47695 10ChatLog/Core-Initialize.lua: ChatLog: Adding temporary message warning that addon will be renamed in 'Elephant' soon.
12:49.32pb_ee1Elephants are well-known to have a good memory :p
12:49.52Zarielo.0
12:49.53Zariel:)
12:51.01ramozrofl
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12:56.32silentiumbaer_: you could set up SpamSentry so it blocks whispers from everyone below lvl 15, but I dont know if that can be switched more easily than by going through the options menu
12:58.20silentiumthe problem with blocking messages based on level is that to retrieve the level, an addon needs to get the information through a /who request if it's not available otherwise, so the message has to be delayed until the server returns the /who information
12:58.47Industrial-> school bbl
13:01.09baer_silentium: i c.
13:01.34baer_i tried "privacy2", but this one doesn't seem to work with cellular.
13:03.15sag_ich_nichtpb_ee1 !
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13:03.24pb_ee1yup, sag_ich_nicht
13:03.53sag_ich_nicht...i will hurt you if i don't get my button besides the chatframe back soon :O
13:04.28pb_ee1d'oh !
13:04.43ie|Stiffeis there any Ace2 addon similar to "Warmup" around?
13:04.43sag_ich_nichtyou forgot about it, didn't you? :P
13:04.44pb_ee1Is it really so usefull? :p
13:04.48sag_ich_nichtYES
13:04.50sag_ich_nichtnow ADD IT BACK
13:04.51sag_ich_nichtD:
13:04.56pb_ee1no, i did not forget about it
13:05.01sag_ich_nichti'm still running the old version that has it :P
13:05.08pb_ee1rofl
13:05.33pb_ee1well actually i'm still asking myself if there really is a need for it. why? Cause there is a fubar plugin
13:05.35sag_ich_nichtit has SVN tags, so WAU leaves it alone :P
13:05.51sag_ich_nichtyes, there is, because my fubar is clogged enough already, and the button is perfect.
13:06.09pb_ee1it would be a bit weird to have a fubarplugin and a button or am i wrong?
13:06.13sag_ich_nichtnow add it back! your memory usage concerns are irrelevant :O
13:06.18sag_ich_nichtno, it wouldn't be
13:06.23quahello who is the responsible guy for bigwigs
13:06.34pb_ee1sure, memory concerns are a stupid answer to that :p
13:06.38silentiumie|Stiffe: I doubt an Ace2'd version of Warmup would be useful, as that ould load Ace2 before the actual Warmup-like addon, so calculations cant be as accurate any more
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13:06.59sag_ich_nichtjust like you have addons with a waterfall, a dewdrop and a slashcommand config :P
13:07.01ie|Stiffetrue, but is there anything similar? non-aced?
13:07.10pb_ee1true, sag_ich_nicht.
13:07.17sag_ich_nichtwhy you need anything else ie|Stiffe?
13:07.18pb_ee1do you speak german?
13:07.21sag_ich_nichtja
13:07.33ie|Stiffesince Warmup seems to be removed
13:07.36abbat_w=)
13:07.40pb_ee1cool, then i'll add the button if you translate the addon o:P
13:07.44ie|Stiffeas in cant find it :)
13:07.47abbat_wja ja. das ist fantastich :)
13:07.50sag_ich_nichtpb_ee1 deal
13:08.12pb_ee1it's a deal in your favor, there's really a small work to do on it ;)
13:08.21sag_ich_nichti know >:O
13:08.23abbat_wbtw
13:08.26quakann mir vlt einer sagen ob einer der bigwigs coder da ist^^
13:08.30abbat_wi was born in Germany ;)
13:08.33pb_ee1just check locale-deDE, i've put an update on the svn just 10 mn ago
13:08.42abbat_wPotsdam (don't know how now this city names)
13:08.52sag_ich_nichtja, qua. now change back to english :O
13:08.59pb_ee1sag_ich_nicht, i'll work on this button tonight or tomorrow
13:09.02sag_ich_nichtjust go ask uh
13:09.11sag_ich_nichtpb_ee1: i'll work on deDE in the evening, i'm at work atm
13:09.17pb_ee1me too :p
13:09.33pb_ee1what rev do you use btw?
13:09.36ie|Stiffesag_ich_nicht, do you know where i can get it? it's not up on wau or files.wowace either
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13:10.26sag_ich_nicht~google
13:10.26purlextra, extra, read all about it, google is a search engine found at http://www.google.com/
13:10.38silentiumie|Stiffe: wowinterface.com still has it
13:10.50ie|Stiffei'll check it out, thanks
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13:13.53Nickenyfiken~purl
13:13.53purlsomebody said purl was teh b0m8
13:14.17Nickenyfiken~god
13:14.18purlwell, god is a llama, or real unless declared integer
13:14.35sag_ich_nichtde_qua just ask funkeh when he's here o something
13:14.36sag_ich_nicht>.>
13:14.38Nickenyfiken~llama
13:14.39purli heard llama is the incarnation of god on earth, or http://images2.jokaroo.net/flash/llamasong.swf
13:16.07sag_ich_nicht~seen funkeh`
13:16.10purlfunkeh` <n=funkydud@host217-44-96-5.range217-44.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 20m 13s ago, saying: 'later'.
13:18.11Nickenyfiken~wowacevseinstein
13:18.25Nickenyfiken~bored
13:18.26purlLa ... lalalala ... beer!
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13:19.59Pkekyois halo 2 available for PC?
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13:25.24abbat_wyes with hacks
13:25.39abbat_wwith hacks for WinXP, w/o - for Vista only
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13:29.16sag_ich_nichthalo 2 is like
13:29.30sag_ich_nichtif(OS != Vista){
13:29.35sag_ich_nichtstopworking()
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13:29.43sag_ich_nicht+;
13:29.58sag_ich_nichtand that's the only reason why it doesn't work
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13:36.20abbat_wpirates make patch
13:36.21NickenyfikenWhy?
13:36.30abbat_wfor run halo2 on winxp with dx10
13:36.52sag_ich_nichthalo 2 doesn't use dx10
13:36.57NickenyfikenWhy would you want to limit where your game can run? I thought game makers wanted the opposite.
13:37.04sag_ich_nichtit has just an OS check that prevents it to run
13:37.10sag_ich_nichtNickenyfiken because microsoft owns bungie
13:37.19sag_ich_nichtand microsoft wants people to buy vista
13:37.22Nickenyfikenrofl
13:37.29sag_ich_nichtit's an idiotic strategy
13:37.33NickenyfikenYeah
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13:37.51NickenyfikenWhy not limit all their products to only work on Vista then?
13:37.57abbat_whalo2 is dx10 only
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13:40.15abbat_wand it's not just a os check. you can check pirates patch for see what they do for run halo2 on winxp
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13:46.09Psylonevcairiel ?
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14:00.53lanc0rhyia ... anyone who can tell me wheter its just me having problems with BananaBar2 ?
14:01.19Psylosomeone knows an addon who do the same thing that bartender3 ?
14:02.23Tornhoofwhy do you need an addon whichh does the same as bt3?
14:02.44lanc0rbongos maybe ?
14:02.56xyuau_unitframes?
14:03.00xyuer
14:03.01xyuag_u
14:03.07xyuag_unitframes.  wow  been a while ^_^
14:03.14PsyloTornhoof cause bt3 is bugged with frFR client
14:03.23Psylosome trinkets don't works in a bt3 bar
14:03.35xyuhuh really?
14:03.40xyui haven't run across any
14:03.55sag_ich_nichtPsylo just bypass it using the following macro:
14:03.57sag_ich_nicht#showtooltip
14:04.03sag_ich_nicht/use 13
14:04.15sag_ich_nichtand another one with the same content, saying /use 14
14:04.18Psylosag_ich_nicht no if i do that the cooldown of the trinket is not show on the button
14:04.40sag_ich_nichtPsylo: actually, it is, but there's a bug with it current that comes from WoW
14:04.45sag_ich_nichtit will be fixed in patch 2.2
14:04.59sag_ich_nicht*with it currently
14:05.05Psylopatch 2.2 is in 2 weeks :/
14:05.13HjalteLet's kill that lonely alliance four levels below us, the three hordes thought to themselves. I hate hordes :(
14:05.21lanc0rlol
14:05.53Psyloand this could be cool to resolve this bug instead of bypass it by using a macro
14:06.33lanc0rwell ... when this is a bug powered by blizz ... the devs cant do anything i suppose :)
14:06.34art3misthere's always flexbar and infinii bar
14:06.38sag_ich_nichtthe macro is better anyway, saves space on the actionbars :P
14:07.00art3misalso trinity does the same as bt
14:07.10art3misit's not ace though
14:07.25Psylolanc0r this is not a blizzard bug, the trinket work well in blizzard bar if bt3 is disabled
14:07.35art3misalso you could just get trinketmenu
14:07.43art3misthat works well enough
14:07.56sag_ich_nichtfuck trinket menu, i want my trinket macro back, PATCH 2.2 PLS
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14:08.49lanc0rxD
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14:09.24Psyloi just want my trinket in a bt3 bar not trinketmenu
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14:10.10sag_ich_nicht...create a macro with /use Trinketname
14:10.40abbat_wbtw
14:10.42Tornhoofwrite a bugreport then psylo or fix it yourself ;)
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14:10.45art3misPsylo: well i gave you the list of options. you can either learn the code and fix it. get a different addon. wait til it's fixed.
14:10.50abbat_wmaybe itemlink can work?
14:11.11abbat_w/use <itemlink>
14:12.04art3misbesides you can still have yer trinket in the bt bar you'd just have a happy little menu bar for trinkets to show your rpesent cooldown if you care that much
14:12.39lanc0ronce again the question ... any known problems with BananaBar2 ? getting the wow loading screen ... after 1/3 is loaded wow freezes ...
14:13.10sag_ich_nichtconfirmed, have the same bug
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14:13.29lanc0rkk ... then its not just me :))
14:13.30sag_ich_nichtguessing memory leak or similiar
14:13.55CIA-1403ominous * r47696 10Tattle/ (16 files in 11 dirs): Tattle: Weekly full run of the dataminer
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14:24.43Psylothere is a offical date for the ptr 2.2 ?
14:26.19art3misoh definitely
14:26.27art3misit's just not expressible in human terms
14:27.01art3misthe releases date is 6 orange fire chicken red rooster red rooster ninety-eleven or so.
14:27.15mitch01any warriors around?
14:27.34mitch01can Intimidating Shout be cast without a target?
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14:28.46Hjaltemitch01, no
14:29.36alextoh
14:29.39alext<lanc0r> once again the question ... any known problems with BananaBar2 ? getting the wow loading screen ... after 1/3 is loaded wow freezes ...
14:29.39alext<sag_ich_nicht> confirmed, have the same bug
14:29.46alextI have had that *bug* for about 3 months now
14:29.56mitch01oh, cool. and it's  its icon is updated according to range, too? (if on a buttonbar)
14:29.59alextevery so often I re-check the addon and try to load it
14:30.04alextstill freezes at the wow loading screen
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14:30.51mitch01PTR is still up, right? will have to check this shout thing on a warrior
14:30.55lanc0rdamn .. i´m just looking for a raid-icon-bar to target the marked targets
14:31.01alextlanc0r: I started using LuckyCharms2
14:31.05alextI think its on www.curse.com
14:31.20alextthe luckycharms on ace i think is just something with macros
14:31.44alextbut LuckyCharms2 is similar to banabar, just doesnt have the extra features like showing what your raid is targeting or showing a health bar next to the icons
14:31.45lanc0rcan u select the targets with this one or just assign the symbols ?
14:31.55alextjust assign symbols
14:32.09alextI searched around for something with bannabar2's features but couldnt find anything
14:32.18alextafter alot of digging, luckycharms2 was the closest I got
14:32.23alextI tried to email the author
14:32.26alextof bannabar2
14:32.29alextbut the email bounced
14:32.32alext<PROTECTED>
14:32.41lanc0ri dont want to mark ... i just wanted to target the marked targets :)
14:32.57break19<- I go even more minimal than that.. I use CharmsFU
14:33.17alextlanc0r: not sure what else can do that
14:33.54lanc0ri found an old one called Raid Target 0.8 on curse doing this .. but its incompatible with 2.x
14:35.11lanc0rhttp://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=3475 --- but its last update was on 01/12/06 :/
14:36.00alextyeah good luck in your search
14:36.04alextI searched all the addon sites I could find
14:36.05lanc0rty :)
14:36.08alextfor a few days
14:36.20alextfor what you want to do, its probably bannanabar2 or bust
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14:44.39Psylonevcairiel ?
14:44.59HjalteWhat's a good addon for stopping all that spam in Say ?
14:45.02Hjaltegold spam*
14:45.09Psylospamsentry
14:45.34pb_ee1Hjalte, just right click on the name and "Report spam"
14:45.42pb_ee1It will automatically block says from that player
14:46.04Hjaltepb_ee1, yeah, but it's still annoying and when it happens every few minutes in the big cities i would rather not see it.
14:46.13pb_ee1True.
14:46.19PsyloHjalte spamsentry block the spam
14:46.43HjalteI used spamsentry once, will check it out again later. Thanks.
14:46.56Psyloit just tell you that it have detect a spam and ask for report or not
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14:46.57break19then make sure you tell all your friends to report the spam as well.. and then bliz will have tons of spam reports to look at, and will be able to block the IP ranges from even playing the game.
14:48.14Matrix110like its hard to change your IP range
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15:12.50CIA-1403bayi * r47697 10beql/ (15 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
15:12.50CIA-14beql:
15:12.50CIA-14- Core: Added Option for selecting sound if a quest is complete
15:12.50CIA-14- Core: Rewrote the function AddQuestStatusToChatFrame(questIndex)
15:12.50CIA-14- Core: Added comments for the wiki site
15:12.50CIA-14- Locales: Updated
15:12.52CIA-14- Locales: Quest Markers split to extra/goodies.lua
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15:13.49Psylonevcairiel ?$
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15:23.24Garounhmm Chronometer doesn't seem to like me using 'without externals' mode :(
15:23.39Garounworks fine with externals but gives an error without
15:24.17HjalteGaroun, I've been using Chronometer without externals fine for the last weeks
15:24.20ulicI run it without just fine.
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15:26.04GarounI'm getting errors attempting to index global 'ParserLib' and index field COLOR_MAP
15:26.09Garounboth are nil
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15:27.57Garounah, that would probably be because parserLib is missing
15:28.04ulic:)
15:28.44Garountook a sec to get the error figured out, ACP to the rescue
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15:30.13Garounquite amazed at how much faster my UI loads now, glad I took the time to finally get 'without externals' working properly.
15:30.41CIA-1403bayi * r47698 10beql/ (beql.lua questlog.lua):
15:30.41CIA-14beql:
15:30.41CIA-14- Core: Removed a debug Print from setting Completion Sound
15:30.41CIA-14- Core: Added default variable to Completion Sound
15:30.42CIA-14- Core: Added a null option for Completion Sound which doesnt play a sound
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15:53.29Yssarilckknight: what does Parrot do that SCT dosn't?
15:54.24Sinaloituse the dogtag library for one i suppose
15:54.54uliceats your crackers
15:55.08cncfanaticsYssaril, just try it ?
15:55.12cncfanaticsparrot > sct though
15:55.13ulicas many scrolling areas as you'd like.
15:55.41Psylonevcairiel ?
15:55.47Yssarilhmmm sounds neat
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15:59.39Chomperscan i check how much memory my addons are using with a command?
15:59.50Chompersor is performancefu the only way?
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16:00.03clad|bookmouseover your latency bar
16:00.08clad|bookdownload optionhouse
16:00.13clad|bookthere are macros that can do it
16:00.13clad|booketc
16:01.47Pkekyoanyone else got problems connecting to http://forums.wow-europe.com ?
16:01.52Yssariljust a warning if you run imbeded libs the memory usage of addons can be way off their actual usage
16:02.15YssarilPkekyo: works just fine for me
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16:07.11Pkekyo!c eu bloodfeather gretzog
16:07.16ThraeBotPkekyo: Gretzog, Level 70 Orc Warrior (8/5/48). 13344 HP; 15374 Armour; 784 AP; 142.1 Melee DPS; 10.44% melee crit; 17 melee hit; 387 defense; 23.01% dodge; 25.18% block;[[ TBR: 2248 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22soca ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2malnw ][ Updated: Wed Aug 29 12:17:38 2007 ]]
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16:10.16Pkekyo!c eu bloodfeather baesj
16:10.19ThraeBotPkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 10347 HP; 8451 Armour; 1594 AP; 209.2 Melee DPS; 24.17% melee crit; 102 melee hit; 7.49% dodge; 10.8% block; 73 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2727 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2479ww ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qpbe8 ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 05:59:56 2007 ]]
16:10.44Pkekyogah, piece of shite capped me in dps gear :<
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16:13.44Pkekyoanyone know why it shows my dps gear stats, but if you pop the armory link it'll show me in tankinggear? :>
16:14.36ulicit only updates every so often, not sure the interval.
16:15.11CIA-1403pheredhel * r47699 10CCBreaker/embeds.xml: CCBreaker: fixing error in embeds.xml fixing #45884
16:16.49mort!c eu alleria shyet
16:16.56ThraeBotmort: Shyet, Level 70 Draenei Priest (13/0/48). 7441 HP; 6645 Mana; 133 mana regen; 25 mp5; 161 spell crit; 98 spell hit; 877 +spell dmg/heal; 233 frost dmg (1110); 335 shadow dmg (1212); 4.86% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2001 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yucwy2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dtv9p ][ Updated: Wed Aug 29 12:27:16 2007 ]]
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16:17.56Psylonevcairiel ?
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16:18.44sag_ich_nichtmove timestamps to the right in prat
16:18.44sag_ich_nichthow
16:18.48sag_ich_nichthelp me please :O
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16:27.29Wobinhttp://meghanohara.org/wordpress/
16:30.12HjalteWobin, haha.
16:31.54Mudkips=_=
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16:33.25stavmar_hello all...Does anyone have a link to that data source of wowhead extraction information to update my cartographer database?
16:35.55durcynhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6553.0
16:36.05durcynstavmar_:  ^^
16:36.17stavmar_durcyn: gracias
16:39.14zeegso i lied yesterday when I said Curse's search was great now
16:39.20zeegbut its being fixed!
16:40.25Pkekyosag_ich_nicht: for the timestamps in prat, just go to the timestamp settins for the window in questions, justify: right and disable+reenable timestamps
16:40.33Pkekyosomething like that atleast
16:41.16vithosstavmar_: there's also a Cartographer_Data addon on files.wowace.com now, which you may be interested in
16:41.55CIA-1403bam * r47700 10ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0.lua:
16:41.55CIA-14ItemPrice-1.0:
16:41.55CIA-14- Price updates
16:42.44CIA-1403somerset * r47701 10ChanList/ (ChanList.changelog.txt ChanList.lua):
16:42.44CIA-14ChanList
16:42.44CIA-14- syncing
16:43.27CIA-1403thexod * r47702 10ItemValue/ (Class_Formula.lua ItemValue.lua):
16:43.27CIA-14ItemValue:
16:43.27CIA-14- No more setfenv(1, ItemValue) in ItemValue.lua
16:43.27CIA-14- Fixed a few Formula errors
16:44.52cncfanaticsdoes the mod ApplytoForhead still exist for linux wow ? cant find it ?
16:45.52stavmar_vithos: what does the user need to do, how much effort is involved, or is everything done automagically? Is this the addon where the mining data was a little messed up for a couple of versions?
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16:54.20break19headon! headon! .. great.. now that stupid commercial is stuck in my head.. thanks stav :/
16:54.59clad|bookcncfanatics: yes, i think its on haste's svn
16:55.41stavmar_break19: which commercial, and I apologize :-)
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16:57.43hastecncfanatics: it's on wowi also
16:59.50cncfanaticsgreat, thanks haste
16:59.55cncfanaticsbored of wine crashing :)
17:00.00Pkekyo~seen sag_ich_nicht
17:00.03purlsag_ich_nicht is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 8m 19s) #norganna (2h 8m 19s) #wowace (2h 8m 19s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 41m 15s, last said: 'help me please :O'.
17:00.08Kaeltensomeone send me a pm on wowace please
17:00.11hasteit doesn't crash too often now when changing video settings
17:00.11cncfanaticsbtw haste, how can u kill off that func without causing haste ?
17:00.22cncfanaticshaste, crashes every time for me
17:00.29cncfanaticswithout ATF that is
17:00.49hasteI just overwrite the function, don't think you want to change multisampling tbh
17:01.27ulicKaelten: sent
17:01.53cncfanaticshaste, shouldnt that cause taint ?
17:02.10hasteon that function yes, but it doesn't return anything
17:02.19hasteand it's only used when changing graphical settings
17:02.32hasteso it won't matter regardless
17:02.36cncfanaticstrue
17:02.44Mudkipsmy system crawls to halt on multisampling is up and I tab out (windowed mode) and rightclick on any apps over WoW
17:03.00cncfanaticshmmmm, also
17:03.02cncfanaticssince recently
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17:03.18cncfanaticswhen ctrl + alt + arrow'ing out of wow (changing workspace) my screen flickers twice
17:03.21cncfanaticsany func causing that to kill off ?
17:03.44cncfanaticsused to be able to change workspaces without any delay at all
17:05.26hasteI don't have that issue :o
17:05.27Kaeltenulic: send me another please
17:05.40snurrewtb bioshock 2
17:05.41Pkekyoyou know you've been fucked up by technology when you redecorate your livingroom in photoshop before you start irl O.o
17:05.45hastethink I had it with one of the old 0.9.3x releases tho'
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17:06.24sbhaha
17:06.37sbdodga: dual screen rocks :o
17:06.46vithoscncfanatics: do you have wow running at the same refresh rate as your desktop?
17:06.48sbdodga: wow #1 and video #2
17:06.53cncfanaticsvithos, hmmm actualy no
17:07.04ulicKaelten: sent
17:07.08vithosthat'll do it
17:07.09cncfanaticsvithos, flawless
17:07.10sb(video = (tv|dvd|porn|...)) :)
17:07.11cncfanaticsthanks
17:07.20vithosnp
17:07.25cncfanaticsgood to have old behaviour back
17:07.29cncfanaticsbtw, another weirdness
17:07.34cncfanaticswhen I change my config.wtf file
17:07.35cncfanaticsand load wow
17:07.40cncfanaticsit resets to whatever the old setting was
17:07.43cncfanaticsif I change it ingame, its fine
17:09.09vithoshmm.. i had problems with config vars getting reset too, but i think it was whenever i opened interface options, the max camera distance would get reset back to blizzard's bounds
17:10.09snurrewhat if you make it read-only? :p
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17:11.07dodgasb: need 2 TFTs :\
17:11.10vithosit'd still get reset ingame i'd think, until the next restart or possibly reloadui
17:11.30CIA-1403bayi * r47703 10beql/beql.lua: beql: - Core: fixed a bug with playing sounds while selecting them from menu
17:11.41Pkekyoif I've fractured one or several ribbones...how would a doctor go about whilst attempting to 'fix' this issue?
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17:12.13snurrewont
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17:12.20snurrecant do much about ribs
17:12.27Psylois nevcairiel only idle on this chan ? ^^
17:13.01Pkekyosnurre: answering me?
17:13.04snurreyeah
17:13.18Pkekyobut he'd probably give me some kickass painkillers, no?
17:13.22snurreyeah
17:13.39Pkekyohmm
17:13.45Pkekyomaybe it's worth getting that x-ray after all then
17:14.13sag_ich_nichtPkekyo timestamps are now on the right, it's in the paragraph settings, but the nicknames/channel indication is still on the right, suggestions?
17:14.27snurrei broke my ribs 17 times in total from snowboarding, before my football team's physician told me to stop any semi-professional sports :(
17:14.38sag_ich_nicht(and thanks for the help so far :P)
17:14.42Pkekyosag_ich_nicht: justify:left?
17:15.09Pkekyosag_ich_nicht: sorry, but I'm semi-afk...virtually redecorating my livingroom
17:15.24sag_ich_nichterm
17:15.27sag_ich_nichtstill on the left i mean
17:15.40sag_ich_nichttimestamps are on the right, player etc. on the left, which is kinda dumb
17:15.44Pkekyoyou want EVERYTHING on the right?
17:17.17sag_ich_nichtyeah
17:17.20sag_ich_nichtwell
17:17.22sag_ich_nichti don't
17:17.27sag_ich_nichta friend wants it
17:17.31sag_ich_nichti don't use prat
17:17.33sag_ich_nichtbecause it is fail :O
17:19.04CIA-1403pb_ee1 * r47704 10ChatLog/ (7 files): ChatLog: Adding ChatLog button back ;)
17:19.30sag_ich_nichtpb_ee1 you added it in already? :O
17:19.35pb_ee1yup.
17:19.51sag_ich_nichterm
17:19.53Pkekyoprat = win
17:19.56sag_ich_nicht-svn +files
17:20.06sag_ich_nichtprat=the devil that breaks my telltrack
17:20.11pb_ee1please feel free to translate the few remaining lines and send the file on my email adress
17:20.21sag_ich_nichtsur
17:20.23sag_ich_nicht*sure
17:20.24pb_ee1Pkekyo, ChatLog is NOT the same thing than Prat's ChatLog
17:20.46pb_ee1Pfew... i can't wait to rename ChatLog, everybody is making the mistake
17:21.09Hjaltepb_ee1, how is yours better?
17:21.18pb_ee1it's not better, it's different
17:21.26pb_ee1~chatlog
17:21.31pb_ee1erm
17:21.35Pkekyopb_ee1: what does that have to do with anything?
17:21.38pb_ee1http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ChatLog
17:21.41Kain_does anyone know how to pull up the SW Stats combat log after you have closed it? (not the ingame combat log)
17:21.42snurrehttp://www.videohybrid.com/ yikes, that site surely will get pwnd by mpaa soon
17:22.02vithosKain_: /swl
17:22.22pb_ee1Pkekyo, sorry i thought you were "answering" to the svn update ;)
17:22.37Kain_10 vithos: 01Thanks!
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17:23.07Pkekyoah, no, was discussing prat with sag_ich_nicht....methinks my eyes are immune to svn updates...I didn't even notice it
17:23.12Pkekyoand no, I'm not high
17:23.19pb_ee1lol, no worries
17:23.24Pkekyo^^
17:23.38vithosKain_: bad idea to color your text black, lots of people irc on a black background and that's invisible :P  but np.
17:24.15Kain_hm.... didnt intend to color it at all... im using trillian heh... copied and pasted your name into the box and typed thanks.... is this coloed black too?
17:24.19Pkekyopb_ee1: what does your chatlog do?
17:24.22pb_ee1purl, ChatLog is an AddOn that is not Prat's ChatLog, is awesome to manage hell tells, is very nice for raid leaders, guild leaders and officers, and you can find its documentation at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ChatLog
17:24.22purlokay, pb_ee1
17:24.33pb_ee1^
17:24.43vithosKain_: nope, just the nick prefixed line was colored teal and black
17:25.03sag_ich_nichtgeez
17:25.04Pkekyopb_ee1: so it's not that thing recording everything said in chat?
17:25.17pb_ee1it also does that
17:25.21sag_ich_nichtoh wait, now fixed
17:25.23Pkekyohmm
17:25.28PkekyoI dunno if I have it or not tbh
17:25.39Pkekyoeither I have it and use it, or I don't have a clue wtf I'm on about :>
17:25.44pb_ee1Pkekyo, just check the documentation linked above, all its main functionnalities are listed ;)
17:26.18Pkekyopb_ee1: redecorating virtually atm...cba to read...I'll just download it and see what the fuzz is all about later ;>
17:26.43pb_ee1sure, i'd be glad to have some feedback if you like/dislike it, ...
17:28.17sag_ich_nichtpb_ee1: care to change the umlauts yourself? i'm kinda in a hurry and the capital ones are missing from the file :P
17:28.20Pkekyopb_ee1: maybe I'll even remember it ;>
17:28.30pb_ee1:P
17:28.45pb_ee1sag_ich_nicht: take your time. I don't mind if you do the translation tomorrow
17:28.51KaeltenUptime24 days 6 hours 56 min 29 s
17:28.51KaeltenStarted at2007-08-05 06:30:38
17:28.51Kaeltenabsolute (since start)
17:28.51KaeltenRequests23 Mreq
17:28.51KaeltenTraffic3.81 Tbyte
17:28.52Kaelten:P
17:28.56sag_ich_nichtpb_ee1: just remember to remind me :P
17:29.01Kain_hey guys i got a quick Q... my guild has gotten really close to downing aran around 3% or so and peopel are just frustrated w/ him @ this point... i keep beign told by friends of mine in other guilsd that Prince is an easier fight than Aran and we should take him down first... is there any truth to that?
17:29.05pb_ee1i'll try if i do not forget ;p
17:29.27sag_ich_nichtKain_ no, your guild either sucks equip wise, or you need to lern2play
17:30.05NeoTronKain_: what seems to be your problem with aran?
17:30.09sag_ich_nichthint: if you used pots or flasks to down anything before aran, get out of karazhan now and update your equip :P
17:30.16NeoTronmight be some specific issue that can be solved
17:30.31sag_ich_nicht-pots +elixirs
17:30.36Kain_thanks for the insight sag
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17:31.15Mudkipshow long has burning crusade been out?
17:31.28ulicsince mid January.
17:31.37NeoTrondon't listen to sag_ich_nicht, instead try to figure out what the issue is. it's very possible you can adjust one thing and ezmode him
17:31.52Kain_NeoTron: usually involves the water elementals not being hanlded apropriately or someone doing something stupid during flame wreath
17:31.53CIA-1403xbeeps * r47705 10HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua:
17:31.53CIA-14HealComm-2.0:
17:31.53CIA-14- Improved accuracy of timing
17:31.53CIA-14- Fix for very rare error
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17:32.46Kain_we brougth a new rogue w/ us last week and they tried to cloak of shadows out of it or somethign after being told not to
17:32.46NeoTronKain_: Flamewreath is seriously a L2P
17:32.50Mudkipshttp://lolflamewreath.ytmnd.com/
17:33.03Kain_another time had a healer soulstone during flamewreath
17:33.18NeoTronstill just L2P to solve that problem
17:33.31NeoTronfor elementals, have your tanks run out and pick them up combined with fear/banish
17:33.40NeoTronif you want you can also kill a couple of them at least
17:33.43CIA-1403pb_ee1 * r47706 10ChatLog/FuBar-Tablet.lua: ChatLog: Enhanced Tablet coloring.
17:33.55NeoTronand make sure to have him sheepsplode you before elementals or after, not during
17:34.23CIA-1403xbeeps * r47707 10VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua:
17:34.23CIA-14VisualHeal:
17:34.23CIA-14- Improved accuracy of timing
17:34.23CIA-14- Fix for very rare error
17:34.26NeoTronI assume you do the normal interrupts - fire and frost but not arcane
17:34.29Kain_we usually have the DPS to take him down ebfore he can get his she going
17:34.35Punkie`Kain_: CloS does not explode the raid afaik
17:34.38NeoTronaj
17:34.48NeoTronah then you should have no problem taking down the adds
17:34.51NeoTronjust tank and spank
17:35.19NeoTronor just tank and heal, combined with other CC
17:35.23NeoTronyou do have at least one lock right?
17:35.32Kain_yeah typically 1 to 2 locks
17:35.45NeoTronif you fail with elementals with 2 locks...
17:35.47NeoTronL2P
17:35.49NeoTron:)
17:35.54NeoTronbanish 2, fear 2. done
17:36.11Kain_yeah elemetnals relaly arent as much of a problem as 1 person doign somtethign dumb and killing the rest of us
17:36.16NeoTronstill having tanks pick them up is good
17:36.20IndustrialHOLD ON
17:36.25IndustrialEepanels2 ?
17:36.27Industrial:D/
17:36.42NeoTronso sag_ich_nicht is correct - L2P because flamewreath is something any person should learn the first 1-2 attempts in htere
17:36.59NeoTronif you're unsure if you can move, don't move
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17:37.33Kain_yeah
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17:37.40Kain_we are probably around 8 or 9 attempts id guess
17:38.03sag_ich_nichtwell
17:38.10durcynget them the addon that plays the YTMND
17:38.14sag_ich_nichtkick who ever breaks the flamewreath
17:38.26sag_ich_nichtand get someone who knows how to play
17:38.32sag_ich_nichtbecause if you don't get it the first 3 times
17:38.34sag_ich_nichtyou'll never
17:38.36NeoTronI found it very effective to _threaten_ to kick people out if they can't do whatever they aren't doing
17:39.12NeoTronand of course following up with a kick if they DO mess up
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17:40.36NeoTronI tend to phrase it more like "If you can't get out of the flamepatch, please let me know now so I can replace you before the next attempt"
17:40.46NeoTronseems to make people... avoid flamepatch
17:41.51Kain_hehe
17:42.15TNSeugh
17:42.25cncfanaticsNeoTron, same
17:42.31cncfanaticsI do tend to be forgiving the first 2-3 tries
17:42.35cncfanaticsbut after that if they cant do it its bye
17:42.41TNSeckknight, can you please make a difference between hots & dots in parrot, and also make an option for periodic heals from VE? :P
17:44.32NeoTronlock pets need more health
17:44.51NeoTronfully raid buffed my succubus is at like 6.2k or so, if that
17:45.16cncfanaticsTNSe, total agreement
17:45.23cncfanaticsu can filter out heals under 75 though and ur fine for VE
17:45.28TNSe<PROTECTED>
17:45.31TNSeI have to go <150 >_<
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17:45.54CIA-14* Initial import
17:45.54cncfanaticsstill shldnt filter out hots
17:45.59cncfanaticshots usualy tick higher then that
17:46.01TNSeproblem is that VE heals count as outgoing for some reason
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17:47.22cncfanaticsheals on others from VE = outgoing ?
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17:47.59ckknighthttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10
17:48.19Funkeh`loes
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17:49.25kenlyricit's scary how frequently tycho is me
17:49.41TNSeyes cncfanatics :P
17:49.42kenlyricexcept, of course, card games.
17:49.46TNSewhich makes VE a bit annoying
17:49.51TNSeas if you get healed from others its incoming
17:49.56TNSeand heal yourself is incoming
17:50.19kenlyricVE is just an odd mechanic.
17:50.34kenlyricthen again, all strange heals are odd mechanics. PoM too
17:50.36TNSeyeah, but I have to deal with it as shadowpriest :P
17:50.49TNSeand 8fps ain't fun so I have to do other things to deal with it
17:50.50NightHawkTheSaneyour mom's an odd mechanic.
17:50.51Kain_does WAU run in Vista ? was goign to recommend it to a friend of mine but it shows NT/2000/XP
17:51.25Tullerjawa!
17:51.33Stan__Kain_: depends
17:51.56TNSe10.3k hp and I get instagibbed on pre-hydross trash.
17:51.58TNSeTWICE.
17:52.16TNSethe screamer AND both sporebats
17:52.18TNSeRIGHT IN MY FACE
17:52.20kenlyricyes, it does run in vista.
17:52.32NeoTronTNSe: they do that sometimes
17:52.41Kain_kk
17:52.43Kain_thanks :)
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17:54.29TNSetwice in a row :P
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17:56.47neeneeWhere would I get that new one?
17:57.12ckknight#dongle
17:57.32NightHawkTheSaneless asking dumb questions more googleing?
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17:58.27Industrialneenee: you'd go to the author. Tekkub
17:58.40deltronanyone have any clue what would be causing me to crash wow.exe after zoning somewhere?
17:59.25deltrondisabled all mods and it fixed the crashing issue
17:59.40neeneeIndustrial - Thanks.
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18:00.04neeneeAt least I didn't get a 'man dongle'.
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18:00.34deltronlol
18:01.23evl_Will I get blocked if I try to hook ActionButtonUp?
18:01.35neeneeHi evl :) Long time no see, I'm still using your addons :)
18:01.41evl_:
18:01.47evl_I made a dozen more I think ;P
18:02.31neeneeYeah, I still had a link to your repository and checked them out :)
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18:12.41CIA-14- Amount of data includes both prefix length and data length instead of data length only. Type and Name aren't counted since those aren't controllable
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18:13.49cncfanaticshow to anchor a tooltip to the cursor ?
18:14.16NeoTron<PROTECTED>
18:15.09NeoTronit's messed up when a guy gets wrath and runs to the AR tanks only to have solarian follow pwning his ass
18:15.25cncfanaticsSolarian hits for less then my mage in melee ?
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18:21.33cncfanaticssomeone, how to anchor tooltip to cursor ?
18:23.43Fisker-i like you cncfanatics
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18:24.43cncfanaticsFisker-, then tell me how to anchor the damn Gametooltip to my mouse
18:24.45NightHawkTheSane... run cncfanatics, run fast.
18:25.05Tornhoofand hug a wall while running
18:25.08cncfanaticsNightHawkTheSane, i'm used to it
18:25.31Cyre2cncfanatics: ckknight could probably answer that.
18:25.53cncfanaticsCyre2, wish he was not afk :)
18:26.00Cyre2><
18:26.19NeoTroncncfanatics: err. she hit a shadow priest for 4.5k followed by a >7-8k crit
18:26.42cncfanaticsNeoTron; my mage does more
18:27.18Cyre2Or try Thrae.
18:27.25NeoTronyour mage melees for more then 8k? impressive
18:27.42Tornhoofcncfanatics: the usual startmoving() stuff does not work?
18:28.10AmadeoWhat melee class hits for 8k?
18:28.48cncfanaticsTornHoof, its a tooltip -.-
18:28.50Amadeoor even 4.5k
18:28.58Tornhoofso what a tt is a frame too
18:29.06Cyre2cncfanatics: Grab TinyTip and check out TinyTipAnchor.lua.
18:29.08cncfanaticsmeh, i'll check tinytip code
18:29.38cncfanaticsomg
18:29.44cncfanaticsit does SetPosition on OnUpdate
18:29.51cncfanaticsand each time sets the tooltip to cursor position
18:29.54cncfanaticsthats shit
18:30.07Funkeh`Theres a tooltip update next patch?
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18:30.10JoshBorkewhich tinytip does that?
18:30.24cncfanaticsI updated my addons today
18:30.27cncfanaticsso the current commit does that
18:30.34JoshBorkefrom wowace or his own svn?
18:30.46cncfanaticswowace
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18:30.50NightHawkTheSanethat's old
18:30.54cncfanaticsheh, he has an own svn ?
18:31.02JoshBorkeyes
18:31.07cncfanaticseither way, is there a decent way to anchor GameTooltip to the mouse ?
18:31.20Cyre2http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua
18:31.53Tornhoofi would still try startmoving ;)
18:32.22cncfanaticsStartMoving is slow
18:32.56cncfanaticshmmm
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18:33.04Tornhoofslower than onupdate for every mousemovement?
18:33.06Tornhoofi guess not
18:33.16cncfanaticsI mean
18:33.22cncfanaticsit won't exactly follow the cursor
18:33.24cncfanaticsthe frame can lag behind
18:33.27cncfanaticshappens a lot
18:33.32Tornhoofah i see
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18:33.42cncfanaticsu know the behaviour I think
18:33.47Tornhoofyeh
18:33.48cncfanaticsframe not being exactly where the cursor is
18:33.56cncfanaticsI might actualy totaly stop using StartMoving cuz of that
18:34.01Tornhoofi guess that's because its not updated every tick or something
18:34.10cncfanaticsno idea, but that behaviour sucks hard
18:35.14cncfanaticsmeh, default UI doesn't have tooltip at cursor does it ?
18:35.29Tornhoofyah, no tt for cursor
18:35.42cncfanaticslemme verify
18:35.48cncfanaticsif the default UI doesnt do it I wont bother either
18:35.52Tornhoofcowtip uses a schedulerepeatingevent with a 0 timeout
18:35.53cncfanaticslet tinytip / cowtip do it
18:36.08Tornhoofwhich is pretty much the same tinytip
18:36.35cncfanaticsbtw
18:36.41cncfanaticsany reason to update the tooltip every frame ?
18:36.47cncfanaticsseems a lot of actionbar addons do that
18:37.14cncfanaticsGetCVar("UberTooltips") lol ?
18:37.27cncfanaticsblizz UI does it too
18:37.33cncfanaticswhy update the tooltip every OnUpdate ?
18:37.36cncfanaticssounds pointless to me
18:37.48Cyre2IDK, I'd think there's no point in updating unless something has changed.
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18:38.12cncfanaticssame
18:38.14cncfanaticslets try I guess
18:38.15Tornhoofdunno i don't bother much with tooltips in yata, i used pretty much the default showtooltip implementation incl. that getcvar stuff
18:39.08cncfanaticswhy is that GetCVar there ?
18:39.09Tornhoofi think ubertooltips isn't enabled anywhere
18:39.18cncfanaticsu mean disabled ?
18:39.22Tornhoofyeh
18:39.47cncfanaticslets see if my tt's work
18:39.52cncfanaticsjust made some fast code for em
18:39.56Tornhoofthe standard tt code looks like this:
18:39.56Tornhoofif ( GetCVar("UberTooltips") == "1" ) then
18:39.56TornhoofGameTooltip_SetDefaultAnchor(GameTooltip, frame);
18:39.56Tornhoofelse
18:39.56TornhoofGameTooltip:SetOwner(frame, "ANCHOR_RIGHT");
18:39.57Tornhoofend
18:40.16cncfanaticsno idea why it does that
18:40.40Shadowed|Anyone play a caster that has some passive +spell haste items equipped?
18:41.10Xinhuanthe function is defined as
18:41.16Xinhuantooltip:SetOwner(parent, "ANCHOR_NONE");
18:41.16Xinhuantooltip:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", "UIParent", "BOTTOMRIGHT", -CONTAINER_OFFSET_X - 13, CONTAINER_OFFSET_Y);
18:41.16Xinhuantooltip.default = 1;
18:41.19cncfanaticsthe function is a 2liner ye
18:41.26Xinhuanfor that GameTooltip_SetDefaultAnch
18:41.32Xinhuan+or
18:41.54Xinhuanits anchoring it to the left of the leftmost column of the last open bag
18:42.03Xinhuanif you use the default UI, you will see this default behavior
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18:42.19cncfanaticsI'm using that
18:42.25cncfanaticsif people want tooltip stuff they'll use tinytip :)
18:42.57cncfanaticsdont think anyone does not use a tooltip addon anyway
18:43.02Tornhoofyata uses hookscript for OnEnter to display the TT and OnLeave to hide it, no fancy fade ;)
18:43.03Xinhuani don't
18:43.08Tornhoofme neither
18:43.26Xinhuanthe default one supplies enough information that i dont need extra info to be added by an addon
18:43.38cncfanaticsXinhuan, and the anchoring ?
18:43.42cncfanaticsomg
18:43.46Xinhuanand its in the corner, out of the way, so it doesn't cover the action in the middle of the screen
18:43.49cncfanaticsSetSpell doesn't accept a spell name
18:43.51Xinhuani like it in the corner
18:44.09Tornhoofyeh you need the id cnc
18:44.19cncfanaticsthat sucks HARD
18:44.26cncfanaticsno functions at all need ID's
18:44.28cncfanaticsexcept tooltips
18:45.05cncfanaticsI really don't want to cache those too, sigh
18:45.13Xinhuanlol
18:45.13Tornhoofyeh i guess they forgot to add spellname support when they changed the other functions
18:45.23Xinhuanwriting your own buttons is a pain in the ass :)
18:45.24cncfanaticscould someone ask slouken to support it ?
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18:45.41kadrahilhttp://projectazeroth.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/LanguageOrcish
18:45.42kadrahil:O
18:45.44cncfanaticsXinhuan, could you do that ? :)
18:45.54Xinhuanhmm sorry, i don't know
18:46.13Xinhuanbtw i never posted your prev pastey to the forums, because i dont know what post to reply to
18:46.36TNSesomething is lagging me and I don't kno what it is :(
18:46.44cncfanatics2.3 changes - consise list
18:46.49cncfanaticsold pastey doesn't matter :)
18:46.56cncfanaticshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=879058320&sid=1 that thread
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18:51.15cncfanaticsany good way to loop through every spellslot ?
18:51.23cncfanaticsexcept while true and break when u don't get anything anymore
18:51.39Tornhoofhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_SetSpell
18:51.40cncfanaticsthere, found it
18:51.58cncfanaticsthat func is bad
18:52.03cncfanaticswhile true is evil
18:52.04cncfanaticsvery evil
18:52.17Tornhoofgetspelltabinfo
18:52.21Tornhoofand start with page 2
18:52.24cncfanaticshttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellTabInfo is way better
18:52.49Tornhoofyeh i use that one in yata
18:53.17Tornhoofslightly optimized though, local tabs = GetNumSpellTabs(); first
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18:53.56cncfanaticsMAX_SKILLLINE_TABS contains the same value anyway ?
18:54.11Tornhoofit does?
18:54.16cncfanaticshmmm, no
18:54.18Tornhoofi thought its the max possible tabs?
18:54.18cncfanaticscontains 8
18:54.21cncfanaticswhile GetNumSpellTabs(); contains 4
18:54.26Tornhoofyeh thought so
18:54.38Shadowed|i just use http://shadowed.pastey.net/72917 since i'm lazy
18:54.40cncfanaticssilly to build a spell cache for just tooltips sigh
18:54.58abugno libraries do that already?
18:55.12Xinhuansilly as it be, they didn't really expect you not to use
18:55.22Xinhuansome of the default 120 buttons
18:56.31Xinhuanwhose spellIDs are saved serverside
18:56.58cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72918 should do ?
18:57.01cncfanaticsone question
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18:57.16cncfanaticsWHY do they add support to make ur own buttons that dont rely on Action IDs if half the functions aren't adapted to it ?
18:57.39cncfanaticsTornhoof, would the module I just pasted do it ?
18:57.42TornhoofLEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB does not work properly
18:57.50Tornhoofatleast not when i tried it
18:57.52cncfanaticseh, what event to use then ?
18:57.54IndustrialQuestion: How do I save a bar's coordinates manually? eg I want to set it to an exact location ('BOTTOM', UIParent, 'BOTTOM', 0, 50)
18:58.01IndustrialI hate having to drag shit
18:58.16cncfanaticsIndustrial,save it urself in a SavedVar & restore on login
18:58.34Tornhoofsomeone proposed to use AceEvent_FullyInitialized
18:58.34cncfanaticsI also use LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB to regenerate shapeshifts so I rather have it working
18:58.46cncfanaticslol, that wont tell me when the user learned new spells
18:58.52cncfanaticsI need to regenerate the cache when new spells are learend
18:58.54Tornhoofyah that's for login only
18:58.54cncfanaticslearned*/
18:59.07Tornhoofyou want your cache to be init after login too, right?
18:59.12Industrialfunction Bartender3.Class.Bar.prototype:SavePosition()
18:59.14Industrialapparently
18:59.19cncfanaticsyea
18:59.22TornhoofLEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB is fine for new spells
18:59.26cncfanaticsnotice how I call it inside OnInitialize
18:59.45Industrialyeah, but now i can save/do that in a little /script while im setting things up :3
18:59.46Tornhoofyeh
18:59.52Tornhoofand at oninit it's too early
18:59.53TNSeMOOO.
18:59.57Industrialmew.
18:59.59Tornhooffor a fully populated spellbook
19:00.04TNSethis game really needs a /nerf emote
19:00.06cncfanaticsit is ?
19:00.09cncfanaticsnever had probs with it
19:00.20Tornhoofi rarely had problems with it in yata
19:00.21cncfanaticsat least for items
19:00.31cncfanaticslet me first try with this code
19:00.37Tornhoofsomeone pointed me to the event loading order
19:00.53Tornhoofyou probably won't notice until you hit some lag or during reload in some raid encounter
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19:01.18cncfanaticsAceEvent_FullyInitialized should be fine as long as I don't use its info in other module's OnEnable handlers
19:01.30cncfanaticsOnEnable should be fine ?
19:01.40Smeagoulhttp://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8331/wowscrnshot082907205834bn2.jpg     my new ui, any suggestion what to add ?
19:01.45Tornhoofhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process
19:02.11TornhoofTalent information should now be available to the UI
19:02.17cncfanaticsdon't care about talents do I ?
19:02.20cncfanaticsonly spellbook info at SPELLS_CHANGED triggers before
19:02.20Tornhoofyou do
19:02.26AmadeoSmeagoul: more WoW
19:02.32Tornhoofsince some spells might be talents?
19:02.41cncfanaticswell, i'm pretty sure those will actualy be in the spellbook
19:02.47Tornhoofprobably
19:02.53cncfanaticsdoubt the client adds em when it finds the user has the talents
19:02.56Tornhoofas long as you don't parse the tooltips it should be fine
19:02.59cncfanaticspretty sure it just gets a list from the server
19:03.05cncfanaticsits just for showing
19:03.32Tornhoofmy problem back then was, if i didn't wait for that ace event, some talent related tooltip changes (like cooldown and stuff) didn't make it into the tt, so i couldn't parse it
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19:04.02Tornhooflike the tt for manatide didn't show the 5min cooldown in the tooltip ;)
19:04.06cncfanaticsI'm not parsing it so i'm fine :)
19:04.10Tornhoofprobably
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19:04.55cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72919 should be fine for tooltips I guess
19:04.57cncfanaticslets test
19:06.07cncfanaticsalso it sucks blizzard support for nonaction buttons is SO poor
19:06.08cncfanaticsseriously
19:06.21cncfanaticsbtw, does anyone know anything about Warhammer's lua engine ?
19:06.24TNSenonactionbuttons?
19:06.30cncfanaticswondering if Ace could be ported to it
19:06.33cncfanaticsand FlexBar as well
19:06.35TNSewhat, world of warhammer? :P
19:06.45kergothi doubt their api is the same
19:06.52cncfanaticsyea, but with some changes it could work
19:06.58cncfanaticswithout a total rewrite that is
19:07.13Tornhoofheh they improved the suppport for nonaction buttons, thanks to that hookscript command
19:07.27cncfanaticsI never use HookScript
19:07.28cncfanaticsever
19:07.35cncfanaticsI'm against hooking actualy :p
19:07.37Amadeocncfanatics: No idea, Thrae has been my Warhammer expert :P
19:08.10Xinhuanwould you quit wow to play warhammer? :)
19:08.11Tornhoofyou couldn't show tooltips for those onmouseover state buttons, without some extreme tweaking ;)
19:08.18AmadeoXinhuan: If it's good enough, sure
19:08.33Xinhuangood enough is vague though, what makes a game good?
19:08.47AmadeoXinhuan: I'm hoping for a DAoC but way better :)
19:08.59kadrahilhmm now i only lack 2 epics from being fully epicced out :D
19:09.04Amadeoif it's not at least another DAoC, then it's not good :P
19:09.26cncfanaticsTornhoof, how so ?
19:09.34cncfanaticsI'm pretty sure my tooltips will work fine with state buttons
19:10.15Tornhoofyou can't use SetScript(OnEnter) with those state buttons
19:10.18AmadeoI enjoyed Dark Age of Camelot a lot before the Trials of Atlantis expansion
19:10.29Tornhoofbecause OnEnter is already used for those mouseover state buttons
19:10.43cncfanaticsI can't ? :o
19:10.53Tornhoofthey won't work then
19:11.05Tornhoofor might throw some error now, i dunno
19:11.16Tornhoofback then, they simply didn't work anymore (no state changes)
19:11.23cncfanaticshmmm
19:11.26cncfanaticsI can't test states
19:11.39cncfanaticswill test em on my lowbie rogue
19:12.10AmadeoI did Sunken Temple last night, my 53 Rogue and a 62 Hunter, duo
19:12.11Amadeoit was fun
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19:12.27cncfanaticsTornhoof, it should cause taint normaly
19:12.32cncfanaticsand make everything fuck up
19:12.54cncfanaticshmmm, can HookScript hook empty scripts ?
19:13.02CIA-1403somerset * r47712 10ChanList/ (ChanList.changelog.txt ChanList.lua):
19:13.02CIA-14ChanList version 0.4
19:13.02CIA-14- fixed tabs with other addons such as ctraid
19:13.02CIA-14- will now sync between other players with the addon in the same channel
19:13.02CIA-14- more intelligent use of /who
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19:13.11cncfanaticssupose I do HookScript('preclick') while no function is on preclick
19:13.12cncfanaticswill it work ?
19:13.29Tornhoofyou can hookscript("onEnter") now safely
19:13.43cncfanaticsI'm thinking of just replacing SetScript by HookScript everywhere
19:13.43Tornhoofthe button xml code is http://ace.pastey.net/72921
19:13.44cncfanaticswould it work ?
19:13.55Tornhoofno idea, i guess so
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19:14.15Tornhoofi just use hookscript for the state buttons, and setscript for all other buttons
19:14.35cncfanaticswill use HookScript everywhere
19:14.37cncfanaticsbut btw
19:14.46cncfanaticsworks totaly fine SetScript("OnEnter");
19:14.48cncfanaticstooltips show
19:14.49cncfanaticsno errors
19:14.52Tornhoofyeh
19:14.53cncfanaticsstates change
19:14.59Tornhoofthey do?
19:15.03Tornhooffixed it maybe
19:15.19cncfanaticsguess i'll use HookScript anyway
19:15.33Tornhoofback then i had to securehook("SecureStateAnchor_RunChild") to get a working result
19:16.14cncfanaticsheh
19:16.20cncfanaticswhy not GetScript("OnEnter");
19:16.26cncfanaticsand securehook the return of getscript ?
19:16.34Tornhoofdidn't work for some reason
19:16.54cncfanaticscool
19:16.55cncfanaticseither way
19:17.00cncfanaticsHookScript works
19:17.05cncfanaticswas only one place to change it at, so was easy
19:17.11cncfanaticsone line to change in my EventManager.lua file :)
19:17.17Tornhoofwith hookscript you're certainly on the safe side
19:17.58cncfanaticsya
19:18.06cncfanaticsall my modules use an event manager anyway
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19:27.57ckknighthey all, I'm back
19:28.01cncfanaticswb ckknight
19:28.19Chompershey ckk
19:28.31CIA-1403jncl * r47713 10Skinner/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
19:28.32ckknightcncfanatics: I can almost guarantee that WAR's lua system will be very different than WoW's
19:28.34Chompersrecovered from the fumes?
19:28.35CIA-14Skinner: Skinned SellJunk, MageEatDrinkAid
19:28.37CIA-14- Updated Recount skin
19:28.39CIA-14- Fixed ContainerFrame option text
19:29.45ckknightChompers: yea, it was only in my system for 4 hours yesterday
19:31.02NickenyfikenHmm is there no API-call to get a units guild name?
19:32.24ckknightthere are
19:32.31ckknightGetGuildInfo("unit")
19:32.32ckknightor something
19:34.00Nickenyfikenyeah
19:34.15cncfanaticsckknight, should have some functions in common
19:34.23cncfanaticsthink it'll have enough to only have to partialy rewrite stuff ?
19:34.25ckknightthe base lua stuff
19:34.27Nickenyfikencouldn't use it to get what type a trainer is
19:34.42cncfanaticsif its event driven too stuff might not need total rewrites (it should)
19:34.44ckknightdon't expect for a second it'll be easy to port
19:34.52cncfanaticsI don't expect it'll be eas
19:34.55ckknightit will need total rewrites, my guess
19:34.55cncfanaticsbut possible
19:34.55buuHrm.
19:35.07buuIs there anyway to stop auto-run via an addon type script thingy?
19:36.30cncfanaticsckknight, u staying to wow or playing WAR when its out ?
19:36.37ckknightI use a mac
19:36.43deltronckknight: vista!
19:36.44ckknightif they port WAR to mac, I'd play it.
19:36.45deltronxp!
19:36.45deltron:)
19:36.54ckknightif only to test it out
19:36.57deltronthey do have bootcamp :)
19:37.27CIA-1403xinhuan * r47714 10BankItemsFu/ (. BankItemsFu.lua BankItemsFu.toc embeds.xml):
19:37.28CIA-14BankItemsFu: Initial commit
19:37.28CIA-14- Adds BankItems to FuBar
19:37.48cncfanaticsckknight, no wine-like software for mac ?
19:38.02ckknightthere is
19:38.08ckknightbut why should I bitch around with that?
19:38.24ckknightdeltron: why should I buy Windows?
19:38.42cncfanaticsckknight, to experience all its nice memory leaks
19:38.48cncfanaticsand all the HD constrains of vista
19:38.59deltronsupposedly vmware fusion can play games
19:39.02cncfanaticsand all the crashes cuz I can code better then most MS coders
19:39.24deltronI only use windows for one reason
19:39.26deltronto play games
19:39.33deltronmy other boxes are linux
19:39.37CIA-1403jaslaughter * r47715 10JasonQuest/ (6 files): (log message trimmed)
19:39.37CIA-14JasonQuest:
19:39.37CIA-14+ Added a search bar at the bottom of the JQuest frame, ripped straight from my
19:39.37CIA-14<PROTECTED>
19:39.37CIA-14- Fixed rare spamming of 'party#' spam
19:39.37CIA-14- Fixed LogFrame.lua:201 nil error
19:39.39CIA-14- Fixed Comm.lua:197:attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
19:40.27ckknightdeltron: and I have a Mac and only play WoW, so OS  works for me
19:40.32ckknightx
19:40.37ckknightmy x key is still borked
19:40.57dylanmckknight: Right on. Another reason why I love Blizzard.
19:41.00deltron:)
19:41.06cncfanaticsdeltron, I rather not play games then use windows
19:41.07Mudkipsckknight, do you get disconnected immediately if you log in during a raid and in combat??
19:41.17ckknightI'm lvl 50, I don't raid
19:41.20Mudkipsugh
19:41.25deltronyou're missing out on brilliant games like Bioshock
19:41.28cncfanaticsand anyway, blizzard rocks for compatible games
19:41.32cncfanaticsdeltron, I emulate it fine ?
19:41.34ckknightdeltron: I don't care about Bioshock.
19:41.42Mudkipsa guildie says he turned off oRA2 and it stopped disconnecting him on his Mac
19:41.45deltronhehe :P
19:41.46MudkipsI just wanted to find out
19:41.49dylanmdeltron: Bioshock is indeed super. Luckily I have a GameBox360 :p
19:42.08Mudkipsbioshock = rootkit no thx
19:42.08CIA-1403xinhuan * r47716 10BankItemsFu/: BankItemsFu: - Adding `svn:externals` and `tsvn:logtemplate` properties.
19:42.09deltronI can't play FPS games on the console, it seems like heresy
19:42.17Yssarilfor :ScheduleEvent(event , delay , ...) is delay in frames seconds or something else?
19:42.29deltronman this hunter has 1835 RAP
19:42.35Mudkipsdeltron, only if it's perfect dark 64 and goldeneye :P
19:42.37Mudkipsnot heresy
19:42.54cncfanaticsYssaril, seconds
19:42.59Yssarilk cool
19:43.01deltronnever played perfect dark, but goldeneye was awesome
19:43.15Mudkipsits very similar
19:43.34Mudkipsbasically an improved multiplayers like goldeneye
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19:43.40dylanmdeltron: I thought that (hated playing Goldeneye with that stupid N64 thing) until Halo... now I just don't care.
19:43.42cncfanaticsI heard DaoC was awesome
19:43.50XinhuanMudkips: you can get around the disconnect when you login in a raid - by asking the raid leader (on vent) to move you to an empty group, say group 8
19:43.54cncfanaticsoh btw
19:43.57deltronmeh @ halo
19:44.02Xinhuanits faster than asking to be kicked out of the raid group and then reinvite on login
19:44.12cncfanaticswho loves games who have this in them ? if(OS != VISTA) then BLUESCREENOFDEATH end;
19:44.12MudkipsXinhuan o rly
19:44.28MudkipsI'll make sure to tell them that
19:44.28Xinhuanyeah try it
19:44.33Mudkipsif it doesn't work i'll haunt you
19:44.39Xinhuanmy raids uses that heh
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19:44.59Mudkips( deltron ) meh @ halo
19:45.02MudkipsQFT
19:46.18TNSevista is too lenient on developers
19:46.25TNSeallowing them to do crap which wouldn't work before
19:46.28cncfanaticsTNSe, vista sucks and i'll never use it
19:46.39TNSeno, vista is so good that the developers get sloppy :P
19:47.06dylanmOf course.
19:47.29Xinhuanwindows xp sucked until SP1 came out remember?
19:47.38Xinhuani wouldn't use vista until SP1 came out for it hehe
19:47.48Mudkipsright
19:47.56Silviu-I use vista now
19:47.57Shadowed|Everything sucks as the first version
19:47.58Silviu-And no problems
19:48.12MudkipsSilviu- >:O
19:48.14Mudkipsyou're not helping
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19:48.59cncfanaticsXinhuan, I never said Xp sucked when it came out
19:49.04Silviu-:)
19:49.07cncfanaticsit was unstable, like every new MS os when it comes out
19:49.14cncfanaticscuz MS coders suck, but thats not the point
19:49.17cncfanaticsvista sucks for other reason
19:49.20Xinhuanunstable == sucked :)
19:49.22Silviu-Mudkips Vista have problems on less then 2 GB ram and low hardware
19:49.45Mudkipsthat's a given though
19:49.56MudkipsI wouldn't load vista on an amd xp system with 1gb ram
19:50.02cncfanaticsI hate vista for other reasons
19:50.09Xinhuanthey could have made an OS that doesn't use 1 gb ram
19:50.13cncfanaticslets see, where did I find that article
19:50.55Mudkipsit's all a big conspiracy
19:51.01Mudkipsnew OS comes out that demands more hardware
19:51.09Mudkipsso you're forced to buy more stuff
19:51.14cncfanaticshttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cs.auckland.ac.nz%2F~pgut001%2Fpubs%2Fvista_cost.html&ei=K87VRtSzNoqqwwGmrem6DA&usg=AFQjCNHLrQtIlHeRX2p6YXCuAQu6rZDhZA&sig2=O5tO_wArLbf-InyL5Iru7A
19:51.15cncfanaticsups
19:51.20cncfanaticshttp://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
19:51.23Mudkipsmoney money money
19:51.24cncfanaticsthat article is a great read
19:51.46cncfanaticsMudkips, u'd lol at what u just said if u'd read that article
19:52.01cncfanaticsthe article can be resumed as hardware developers saying "Cost of vista passed on the end user"
19:52.42cncfanaticsExecutive Executive Summary :The Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute the longest suicide note in history
19:52.43SaladForkGah
19:52.44cncfanaticshope its true
19:52.45SaladForkckknight - ping
19:52.57ckknightpong
19:53.17SaladForkCkk - I've been playing around with parrot and loving it, except for one minor thing
19:53.34SaladForkI created triggers for incoming/outgoing crits and added a sound to each.
19:53.39Silviu-Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition (Build 6000) on Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz , Gigabyte P35-DS3, DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Corsair X 2, Leadtek Nvidia 8800 GTS 320, Western Digital 320 GB AAKS :) i would say runs great ^^
19:53.47SaladForkHowever, that makes it so I can no longer see when I crit
19:53.53SaladForkCrits just don't appear in the scroll areas
19:54.35Silviu-Mudkips ;p
19:54.38Mudkips+k
19:54.43Silviu-Mudkips i got it 1 week ago
19:54.44Silviu-:)
19:54.49Mudkipso grats
19:55.14Mudkipsthey don't allow scripts here do they
19:55.21Mudkipscould have displayed that in an instant
19:55.26CheadsSilviu- put another gig of mem in it.. you'll be happy =)
19:55.32SaladForkI was going to say the same thing
19:55.40Silviu-Cheads I am with 2 gb
19:55.40SaladForkIt would be a shame not to have 2gigs in that computer
19:55.42MudkipsDDR2 is so bloody cheap
19:55.46Silviu-Read
19:55.48Silviu-X2
19:55.48Silviu-:D
19:55.52Silviu-Pair ;)
19:56.08Xinhuanerr that article is TLDR
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19:56.18cncfanatics~tldr
19:56.24cncfanaticstoo long didn't read
19:56.26CIA-1403cncfanatics * r47717 10FlexBar2/ (8 files in 6 dirs): FlexBar2: Added tooltip support
19:56.28cncfanaticsXinhuan, u should :)
19:56.30cncfanaticsseriously
19:56.31cncfanaticsits a good read
19:56.34Cheadswell.. the message didn't come out right then since I apparently wasn't the only that didn't understand it properly =)
19:56.38Xinhuancliffnotes please
19:56.42SaladForkAnyone have any idea for that matter?
19:56.48OrionShockeh?
19:56.56SaladForkI've been playing around with parrot and loving it, except for one minor thing
19:57.00Silviu-Cheads heh ok , so i have 2 gb of ram :)
19:57.00SaladForkI created triggers for incoming/outgoing crits and added a sound to each.
19:57.04SaladForkHowever, that makes it so I can no longer see when I crit
19:57.06SaladForkCrits just don't appear in the scroll areas
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19:57.20SaladForkI know it's the triggers causing it, because when I cleared the crit conditions, I can see crits again
19:57.29NightHawkTheSane"All I'm saying, just for the record, this is the WACKIEST plan we've ever come up with."
19:57.33SaladForkIs there any other way/mod that I can play a sound when I crit?
19:57.59NightHawkTheSane"Wackier than strapping an active stargate to the bottom of the x-302?" "Oh Yeah." "Wackier than blowing a sun?!" "Yep!" "... he's probably right."
19:58.24CheadsSilviu- good =)
19:58.43Cheadswould be ashame with just one in such a machine on vista
19:59.15Silviu-Yeah true i just said before .. if u want to run vista AND games .. u need 2 gb :)
19:59.16cncfanaticsFor DRM to work, it has to be airtight.  There can't be a single mistake.  It's like a balloon that pops with the first prick.  That means that every single product from every single vendor has to perfectly hide their keys, perfectly implement their code.  There can't be a single way to get into the guts of the code to retrieve the cleartext or the keys while it's playing back.  All attackers need is a single mistake that they c
19:59.21kadrahilheh this guild's website
19:59.22cncfanaticsI love that quote
19:59.24kadrahil"The Lurker Belowned"
19:59.28cncfanaticsit basicly means, vista DRM wont work
20:00.25Mudkipsbecause it's not supported by developers?
20:00.43cncfanaticsnah, it is
20:00.45Silviu-Next month i must buy an 19 inch lcd now i have 17 crt :/
20:00.53cncfanaticsbut u can't have 10 hardware developers not make any mistakes anywhere
20:01.07MudkipsSilviu-, this is madness
20:01.22cncfanatics~madness
20:01.22purlMadness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:01.32Mudkips17 crt on that hardware
20:01.50Cyre2Nvidia = Idiots, ATI = Quasi Idiots
20:01.53TNSeif quartz reports pings between 50-800 ms
20:01.56TNSeand my fps is stable 50+
20:02.12TNSeand the tracert to the server I play on shows nothing bad
20:02.14Silviu-Mudkips hehe
20:02.14TNSewtf is going on
20:02.27Silviu-Mudkips well is my old monitor and i had no money more for an lcd now ;)
20:02.58abugthe cost is passed on to the consumer
20:03.09SaladForkOH come on
20:03.18SaladForkDo I really have to make my own addon that does nothing but play a sound when I crit?
20:03.34Silviu-Salad yes :D
20:03.35cncfanaticsabug, that phrase comes a lot in that article :o
20:03.53abugit's a good article
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20:04.25cncfanaticsabug, I agree
20:04.26cncfanaticsa lot
20:04.32cncfanatics~drm
20:04.33purlmethinks drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates  Just Say No(TM), or better known as ...
20:04.38cncfanaticsdamn its too long
20:04.43cncfanaticsshould add article url to ~drm
20:05.05kadrahil3 weeks in gruul's lair and we can only get gruul down to 45%
20:05.07kadrahilugh
20:05.32TNSeO_o
20:05.39TNSewhat tactics are you trying?
20:06.16kadrahilhttp://www.bosskillers.com/cgi-bin/bbguild/index.cgi?action=view_guide&guide_id=7&sid=qyi7w7JzFU
20:06.24kadrahilstandard positioning
20:06.29OrionShockSaladFork:  triggers don't take a dynamic variable...
20:06.37SaladForkOrion - huh?
20:06.38TNSewhat is the problem
20:06.40kadrahilit seems like our melee doesn't know how to get out of the cave ins and they all end up dying quick
20:06.40TNSedps going dead?
20:06.42Xinhuan[8/30 04:02:06] <SaladFork> Do I really have to make my own addon that does nothing but play a sound when I crit?
20:06.43TNSehealers going dead?
20:06.44Xinhuanit isn't that hard ;p
20:06.45TNSetank losing aggro
20:06.45OrionShockyour problem with parriot
20:06.47TNSeor going dead?
20:06.50SaladForkXin - I know, it seems silly
20:06.52kadrahili think our melee is the problem
20:06.54SaladForkOrion - my triggers worked
20:06.57kadrahilranged are ok
20:06.57SaladForkit made a sound when I crit
20:07.01SaladForkAnd another sound when I got crit
20:07.11SaladForkHowever, it overrode the message I got with my crit amount and the skill I used and such
20:07.21OrionShock.. k
20:07.27TNSekadrahil, I could give you a simpler to perform tactic
20:07.27kadrahilthis is what happens with a "casual" raiding guild
20:07.28TNSe:P
20:07.35Xinhuanjust write your own addon imo, most addons rarely do what you want exactly
20:07.44SaladForkOrion - I added a trigger with the primary condition being "Outgoing Crit"
20:07.46SaladForkAnd added a sound to it
20:07.49SaladForkIt worked 100%
20:07.50NeoTron<PROTECTED>
20:07.55NeoTronerr mispaste
20:07.57kadrahilTNSe: heh
20:08.03SaladForkBut then I no longer got normal crit messages, =\
20:08.09Xinhuankadrahil: how many melee are you bringing?
20:08.10kadrahilTNSe: our ranged stays at max range and knows to run behind stuff to avoid shatter and ground slam
20:08.15TNSeall healers get the entire 'north' area for themselves, melee don't run in until tank regains aggro, and casters are split south/east/west
20:08.22TNSeand NOONE runs behind stuff
20:08.23kadrahilXinhuan: i blieve three or four. i don't really remember though.
20:08.23NeoTron"- Malygos, the blue dragon, will be a singular raid encounter (Onyxia like) in the Nexus (located in the center of Coldarra)." <-- makes me sad they think it's a good idea to fight (and presumably kill) an aspect
20:08.25TNSethats the best way to wipe :P
20:08.30kadrahilbelieve*
20:08.36TNSeif you lose dps
20:08.38TNSeyou will wipe
20:08.45kadrahilTNSe: pretty much
20:08.55Xinhuanwhy are your melee dying?
20:08.56kadrahilTNSe: interesting
20:08.56SaladForkOrion - if you know a way to do it correctly, please do let me know
20:08.57TNSeso your dps has to manually adjust their positions after a slam
20:09.02kadrahilXinhuan: cave ins
20:09.03SaladForkI just got Parrot yesterday and am playing around with it
20:09.04TNSeand then continue dps
20:09.07kadrahilXinhuan: (don't ask)
20:09.14Xinhuanwell is your tank moving the boss when there is a cavein?
20:09.18TNSekadrahil, put 2 shaman on offtank heal with chain heal = dps survives
20:09.22kadrahilyeah
20:09.32Xinhuanyour tank needs to move the boss when there is a cavein on himself, or when a cavein affects the melee behind the boss
20:10.35Xinhuanyou also need sufficient dps on the boss so that growth doesn't go too high
20:10.48Xinhuanhow many growths is usually on the boss before your tank dies?
20:11.32cncfanatics25
20:11.36cncfanatics250 sorry
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20:11.54Xinhuanwe normally kill him at the 11th or 10th growth, meaning it'll be about 30% on roughly the 8th growth
20:12.06cncfanaticsthats nice
20:12.07cncfanaticsgood dps u got
20:12.24Xinhuanit helps immensely if your MT eats a ironshield potion at around the 10th growth
20:12.33Xinhuanesp if he isn't all that geared yet
20:13.24kadrahilXinhuan: for a raid just starting out on their first kill of gruul, what would you say the target # of growths is?
20:13.31Xinhuanno more than 15
20:13.35kadrahilhmm
20:13.42kadrahilour best attempt at 45% was i think 8 or 9
20:13.42cncfanatics15-16ish yea
20:13.52cncfanaticsur tank rly shldnt get eaten at 8 or 9 growths
20:13.54cncfanaticsslap ur healers, badlyt
20:14.01Xinhuanyour first kill should be around the 14-15th growth
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20:14.09Xinhuanand your gear will just get better
20:14.14Xinhuanto the point you can kill him by the 10th
20:14.19kadrahilXinhuan: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=trippz is our tank
20:14.46Xinhuando you have problems keeping your tank alive?
20:14.48NeoTronmain reason the MT dies early is because healers are distracted
20:15.07NeoTronhave just one healer on raid heal, one on OT an dthe rest solely onthe MT. make sure to have all hots up for silence/shatter
20:15.11kadrahilXinhuan: i think that is our problem
20:15.22Xinhuanhow many healers do you bring?
20:15.24kadrahilXinhuan: we have the raid groups broken up with 2 caster dps, one healer, and a melee in each
20:15.29kadrahilXinhuan: i think 9
20:15.42Xinhuanok you're bringing too many healers
20:15.49Xinhuan7 is enough
20:15.53cncfanaticsif they die at 9 grows I guess they're not :/
20:15.54kadrahilhmm
20:15.56cncfanaticstheir healers are slackers
20:16.06kadrahilour healers are healing their raid groups and not the tank, is my guess
20:16.16Xinhuanof the 7 healers, 5 should be healing the tank and the off-tank
20:16.17kadrahillike i think they only keep two healers on the tank at all times
20:16.21Xinhuanthe other 2 will be healing the raid in general
20:16.22cncfanaticseh, in our first kill, healers let the raid help himself
20:16.31Xinhuanin fact, tell your raid to bandage
20:16.37cncfanaticsu can bandage & pot enough as dps
20:16.44cncfanaticsfocus only on tank & offtank
20:16.51Xinhuanhealers should not heal anyone that took shatter damage
20:16.51kadrahilyeah, i think someone suggested that but it was shot down because bandaging takes time away from dps
20:16.57cncfanaticswe usualy have 4 healers on MT, 2 on OT and one crosshealing both
20:17.00Xinhuanhealers SHOULD heal people taking Cave-in damage
20:17.02SaladForkCnc - most caster DPS classes prefer using a mana pot over a health pot
20:17.03kadrahili am going to write up a post on our guild forums
20:17.10cncfanaticsSaladFork, then they bandage
20:17.13Xinhuanuse bandages
20:17.14kadrahilXinhuan: people should also know to get out of cave ins
20:17.16TNSehealers should all focus on tank
20:17.22TNSedps must out of caveins and bandage
20:17.24Xinhuanok kada
20:17.29Xinhuani notice your tank only has 527 defense
20:17.34Xinhuanerr i mean
20:17.38TNSe527 is decent :P
20:17.51Xinhuan490 is the "cap"
20:17.59Xinhuanbefore its usefulness decreases
20:18.00kadrahilyeah, i know that, and i'm sure he knows that
20:18.07TNSedoesn't hurt to go above it
20:18.12cncfanaticsI have only pregruul gear
20:18.13TNSeit helps get more mitigation
20:18.18TNSebut he should have stamina instead
20:18.22cncfanaticstry this on ur tank for gruul
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20:18.41kadrahiljust stack stam gems everywher?
20:18.42kadrahil+e
20:18.42cncfanaticsthats a good aim for a gruul tank imo
20:18.52Xinhuanuh if your tank replaces ALL his gems with solid stars of elunes
20:18.55Xinhuanhe will have 810 hp more
20:19.07kadrahilso roughly 14.7k
20:19.09cncfanaticskadrahil, check my armory profile
20:19.09Xinhuanand have 24 def less
20:19.16Xinhuanand 503 def is still sufficient
20:19.21OrionShock<PROTECTED>
20:19.24OrionShockLOL
20:19.34Xinhuanremember that the gems and stuff add STAM which is increased by Kings
20:19.41cncfanaticsOrionShock, whats ur problem ?
20:19.42Xinhuanso 810 more hp is really 891 more hp
20:19.48kadrahilXinhuan: so he should just ignore the socket bonuses and stack the elune gems?
20:19.50Xinhuanoops 5%, not 10%
20:19.54Xinhuancorrect kad
20:20.05kadrahili will run it by him tonight
20:20.05Xinhuanevery tank i know uses pure 12 stam gems
20:20.10NightHawkTheSanesocket bonuses all pale in comparison to 13 sta
20:20.22NightHawkTheSane(per gem)
20:20.23OrionShocki just don't consider pallys viable tanks outside of 5mans -- execpt for that rare exceptional PLAYER that really knows wtf he's doing
20:20.26Xinhuanbecause every tank's gear is good enough to reach 490 defense without using "defense gems"
20:21.04cncfanaticsOrionShock, ur right there, I do know what i'm doing though, as my gear should prove :p
20:21.23OrionShockgear means nothing
20:21.25Pkekyowhat does "Close Captioned" mean?
20:21.26Xinhuanalso the tank's bracer enchant is +12 defense rating
20:21.29Xinhuanchange that to 12 stam
20:21.37Xinhuan+12 def rating --> about 5 defense
20:21.41Xinhuannot very useful
20:21.44OrionShockgear helps, but if u don't got skill to back it up, gear means nothing
20:21.50kadrahilhow much stam does it take to make one hp?
20:22.00Xinhuanyour tank should have ~16k hp buffed up for gruul
20:22.07Xinhuanuse a flask on your tank too
20:22.17NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: it means that there will be (or is available) captioning for the audio
20:22.26cncfanaticsOrionShock, the way a tnak gears up says how much he knows about his tanking
20:22.33Pkekyo<PROTECTED>
20:22.38SaladForksubtitles
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20:23.13NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: buy a dictionary
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20:23.21Xinhuanerr my guild uses a pally to MT gruul ;p
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20:23.29PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: can't afford one
20:23.34Xinhuanbecause the warrior MT brings his mage alt to gruul hehe
20:23.34cncfanaticsXinhuan, so did mine till I rerolled priest
20:23.44NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: funny, because  there's dozens free online.
20:24.17Xinhuanconsider swapping the 15 str enchant on the gloves to a 8 stam armor kit too
20:24.21Pkekyoyou said -buy- a dictionary...
20:24.45kadrahilXinhuan: he also got +12 def to wrists and +15 str to gloves
20:24.49OrionShockcncfanatics: that idea is still dabateable, tbh - a warrior can be wearing T4, but he's a just another tank till he performs otherwise
20:24.57NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: fine, be less of an idiot, how's that? something to aspire too cause you're clearly not there yet :)
20:24.58Saint-Nyou'd be purchasing it for whatever fraction of your mnonthly internet cost you'd like to value it at ;)
20:24.59Xinhuanbtw, don't go below 490 def, just replace enough gems to stay there
20:25.08kadrahilXinhuan: *nod*
20:25.22Xinhuanif possible, Mongoose > battlemaster
20:25.27Xinhuana bit expensive yes
20:25.30Pkekyodongjob...
20:25.33Xinhuanbut if you DEitems from maulgar... ;p
20:25.35Saint-Noh btw
20:25.52kadrahilXinhuan: we have only killed maulgar 3 times, so not yet
20:25.53Saint-Nhow does the battlemaster enchant work?
20:26.01Xinhuanor DE items from kara
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20:26.14Xinhuanassumably you have a guild bank for those void crystals to hand out?
20:26.17Saint-Nin beta i had it and reading it soundliked it' healed 50 hps over 10 seconds.. so 5 hps a tick
20:26.35Saint-Nfor the party that is
20:26.45Xinhuanthe excess can be sold for cash to make flasks
20:26.49Xinhuanfor tanks
20:27.18the-golemhmmmm
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20:27.48kadrahilXinhuan: he has 135 stam from gems now, replacing them all with 12 stam would bump it to 216 stam from gems
20:27.52kadrahilhmm
20:28.04Xinhuanya, 1k more hp makes a lot of difference
20:28.06kadrahilfor a tauren stam provides 10.5 hp for each stam
20:28.16Xinhuanadd a flask to that
20:28.24Xinhuanyou have 1.5k more buffer
20:28.24SaladForkKadra - what's his shield chant?
20:28.25NightHawkTheSaneand 5% sta on that too
20:28.33Xinhuan5% from Kings
20:28.34kadrahilSaladFork: 18 stam
20:28.36NightHawkTheSane10% from kings
20:28.45NightHawkTheSane5% from the warrior talent
20:28.51NightHawkTheSanewho's name escapes me
20:29.05kadrahilXinhuan: which flask?
20:29.22Xinhuanfortification? or whatever is the one that adds hp
20:29.24the-golemi cant find a bloody chatmod i like
20:29.37kadrahilXinhuan: ok
20:29.38CIA-1403yssaril * r47718 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_Comm.lua YssGuildShop.lua YssGuildShop.toc):
20:29.38CIA-14YssGuildShop:
20:29.38CIA-14- moved the communications code into YGS_Comm.lua
20:29.38CIA-14- the guild database will now be shared on a request base only as such unnecessary sending of data should have been cut down (more optimization coming soon)
20:29.38CIA-14- due to change in communications the local database will be cleared and old database communications will be rejected and the user notified of newer version of YssGuildShop
20:29.48cncfanaticsXinhuan, fortification
20:29.54Xinhuanwhen your tank dies - fidn out why he died
20:29.58Xinhuanalways find out why
20:30.05Xinhuanis it because he got crushing blowed?
20:30.09Xinhuanor didn't get enough heals
20:30.21Xinhuanor is it because of the "aoe silence"?
20:30.21kadrahilXinhuan: he shouldn't be getting crushed at 527, should he?
20:30.24SaladForkKadra - got a WWS for the fight?
20:30.27Xinhuanhe can, if he didn't keep shield block up
20:30.29NightHawkTheSanedefense doesn't prevent crushes, only crits
20:30.29the-golemtanks are immortal :P
20:30.31kadrahilSaladFork: we don't use WWS
20:30.35NightHawkTheSanehe needs to keep shield block active
20:30.40Xinhuanand can still crit
20:30.44SaladForkYou should consider it, it's fantastic when you're trying to evaluate mistakes and how to improve
20:30.48Xinhuanyeah, what NightHawkTheSane meant
20:30.55kadrahilNightHawkTheSane: ahh
20:31.03Xinhuanthe most important thing is really to find out WHY a tank died
20:31.05kadrahilSaladFork: i will
20:31.21the-golemshield block + sunder + revenge
20:31.24Xinhuanmake sure all your healers throw Renews and other HoTs up on the MT when "silence cooldown" is up
20:31.32SaladForkThe Death Replay is especially useful for tanks
20:31.50Xinhuanthere's a number of addons that logs the combat log and shows you ingame why he died
20:31.57SaladForkRecount does it, =)
20:32.00SaladFork<3 Recount
20:32.04kadrahilheh
20:32.10XinhuanExpiration, Recount, Xperl-GrimReaper
20:32.14kadrahili'll check out recount in kara tonight
20:32.27Xinhuanand even SWStatsCombatLog
20:32.29Xinhuanif you use that
20:32.29ckknightalright, cya all in a little while
20:32.32kadrahili still have like 3 drops from kara i need :(
20:32.38kadrahiland they never drop
20:33.27Xinhuanwhile WWS is nice for post-raid analysis, those addons i mentioned provide immediate ingame feedback
20:33.37Xinhuanso you can fix the issue for the next attempt
20:33.50SaladForkRecount is like WWS, but in-game
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20:35.08SaladForkhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Recount
20:35.08SaladFork.wiki Recount
20:35.10SaladForkIf you're interested
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20:36.36sbhmm
20:37.14sbany idea what could be wrong if HP display is incomplete ("9xxx / ") with agUF? (happens only on player frames, target + target target is fine)(
20:37.55Xinhuanmost of the time, you will find that the tank died to 2 usual reasons - 1. there weren't any heals in the last 3 secs (usually silence) 2. the tank got an unlucky string of crushings/cavein/etc that couldn't be prevented
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20:38.32Xinhuanyour melee also needs to stay below the threat of your Offtank
20:38.40sbah its scale ;p
20:38.40Xinhuanor they will get 1shot by gruul
20:38.42kadrahil<PROTECTED>
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20:40.12sicanot only melees - I play a shadowpriest and ran through gruul one time and got 1shotted, it was kinda funny
20:40.23Yssaril__ori
20:40.29Yssaril__mt sry
20:40.54cncfanaticssica, dont be in gruul's melee at pull
20:40.59cncfanaticsor u might get hatefull and get oneshotted
20:41.27HjalteHow do i target my focus target in a macro?
20:41.41vithos<PROTECTED>
20:41.57sicacncfanatics: it wasn't at pull, it was at 10%, groundslam threw me to the other side of the cave and on my way back...
20:42.10HjalteHow do i make my succubus cast seduction? :)
20:42.11Chomperswish Recount had an export to file feature
20:42.12vithosthough, you don't need to target it to act on it, just use the same modifier given above with /cast
20:42.18Chompersthat would be so handy
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20:42.45vithoswowwiki has useful macros pages, i'm sure you can find what you're asking for there
20:43.42SaladForkChompers - just log your combat log and use WWS
20:44.40yssaril__OrionShock: check this out http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/YssGuildShop/YGS_Comm.lua?r=47718
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20:45.08vithosthat reminds me, is there a combat log roller that detects splits automatically?
20:45.20SaladForkVithos - use a signature move
20:45.25yssaril__OrionShock: extreamly spammy atm but that will get fixed sometime tonight
20:45.35SaladForkGood ones include Sentry Totem, Ice Armor, Underwater Breathing....
20:45.51ChompersSaladFork: it gets messy using /combatlog
20:45.56SaladForkThen just use everything between "<BOSSNAME> dies." and the last signature move
20:46.01SaladForkChompers - I've had no problem with it
20:46.02vithosi mean by the timestamps, like if a few hours go by with no log entry, split there
20:46.19Chompersespically remembering multiple times for each boss
20:46.20OrionShockhumm...
20:46.39SaladForkChompers - Like I said, just copy between the death message and the last move
20:46.55OrionShockYssaril__ does guild bank account for people having the same items but with differnet share status and value?
20:47.02Chompersfair enough
20:47.17kadrahilvithos: check it out, i'm a gangsta - http://i3.tinypic.com/4p14dfq.png
20:47.44vithosLOL
20:47.58kadrahil:)
20:48.04yssaril__OrionShock: the share status is used to make an item invisible to the guild so that is only client based and does not get shared the value is a global value that is for the guildbank use not for individual use
20:48.48kadrahilvithos: i'm going to see if my GM will let me gquit just to form <Flight Master> and get a screenshot of me dressed like that with the nameplates turned on
20:48.50OrionShocknonetheless, does it account for players with the same items?
20:49.25yssaril__dosnt have a reason to unless you are thinking of somehing different from me
20:50.16OrionShockwell i was thinking the other day, it's not useful to know that there is 1k netherweave cloth pieces unless you know who has them
20:50.20yssaril__the value system isnt totaly finished yet but it should add new items to the database with and unknown value unless a value is shared
20:51.10yssaril__OrionShock: true but nowhere in the addon does it tell you that there are 1k somthing it is always organized by characters
20:51.37yssaril__was thinking to add something like that thought with a tooltip that gives you all the people that have an item
20:52.16OrionShockwell in the Guild Bank view - it's nessisary to know what bank has what items so u know who to send the request to for it
20:52.57Xinhuanyou realise all that is unnecessary in the next patch with guildbanks right? ;p
20:53.03yssaril__the guildbank view is also devided up by characters
20:53.11OrionShockthat works
20:53.25OrionShockXinhuan: it is stated that guild banks will come, what patch has not been announced
20:53.32yssaril__Xinhuan: you mean in 2 patches? and yes i know but depending on how they implement it i can addapt it to that
20:53.34OrionShockand it's not in 2.2 or 2.3
20:53.40Xinhuanits coming between 2.2 and 2.3 i think?
20:53.50cncfanaticsthink its after 2.3 tbh
20:53.50yssaril__i heard 2.3
20:54.09Xinhuanwell that's about 1-2 months away
20:54.24yssaril__anyways worst case senario i will dumb the addon down to jsut show people what is in the bank without them having to fly to the banker
20:54.25OrionShockme thinks if it was in 2.3 we'd know about the new api's that deal with it, there'd be some more technical information avaibale
20:54.37Xinhuannot really orion
20:54.45cncfanaticsnot if they didnt code it yet
20:54.46Xinhuanthey didn't release the voicechat API until the PTR
20:54.51Xinhuanfor 2.2
20:54.55yssaril__they havent finished 2.2 yet so they havent really talked about 2.3 yet besides blizzcon
20:55.08cncfanaticsthere's already technical info avail of function changes
20:55.11OrionShockVoice API was on the UI forums... like 3 weeks before it hit the PTR
20:55.13cncfanaticslots of stuff for me in 2.3 :)
20:55.22Xinhuanbut it wasn't the complete list
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20:55.31Xinhuanso it wasn't accurate nor finalised
20:55.37OrionShocktrue, but there was something
20:55.50Xinhuanthe guildbank is probably less complicated
20:56.01Xinhuanthan voicechat
20:56.07OrionShockgranted
20:56.23OrionShockthat and YssGuildBank also deals with palyer items as well
20:58.44Saint-Nwait lemme gather up the discs first.
20:59.11yssaril__btw how do we log into http://jira.wowace.com/? same as SVN or forums?
20:59.28ulicseperate auth I think.
20:59.37Saint-Nno, ulic
20:59.39Saint-N;)
20:59.57Saint-Ngod im bored and feel sick
20:59.57ulicno?  maybe I signed up before he had them linked
21:00.03OrionShockya jira is seperate login
21:00.12Saint-Nulic, no ulic, no, ulic
21:00.16OrionShockunless he linked them recently
21:00.32Saint-Nim making fun of yer nick ;P
21:00.40ulicyea I figured that out
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21:03.34yssaril__nope not linked
21:04.54SarozFunkeh`, can you add an announce for when the weapons die in P2 kael?
21:05.31Funkeh`maybe, they die pretty fast usually.
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21:06.14Xinhuani think it'll be helpful actually, people will know when a corpse is lootable
21:07.24Xinhuandid anyone actually time WHEN the corpses despawn though?
21:08.04Xinhuancould possibly setup a despawn timer for each weapon corpse hmm
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21:09.06Eternally777Is there a way to read the description of a buff using the UnitBuff() function rather than having to scan it with a tooltip?
21:09.43XinhuanEternally777: don't think so
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21:10.04kadrahilXinhuan: i like the way our raids have been going in kara lately, we seem to be getting pretty geared out
21:10.22kadrahilXinhuan: one shotted everything except netherspite and nightbane, and netherspite someone screwed up on the rotations halfway through for some stupid reason
21:10.46Xinhuanwhen they added the door to netherspite's room, my guild stopped killing him completely
21:11.00yssarilckknight: is there a way to add custom events to parrot (i wrote a small addon for SCT that would tell me when the optimum time to darkpact was)
21:11.04Xinhuanbecause his loot is pretty bad compared to the rest of kara lol
21:11.12kadrahilXinhuan: how did you kill him before the door?
21:11.24Xinhuanthe same way you kill him with the door
21:11.24SarozFunkeh`, would be nice to know when they die.. DBM has health bars for them, bigwigs needs something to let the raid know an item is ready for looting
21:11.33Xinhuanwe simply stopped killing him because his loot wasn't worth the time
21:11.39kadrahilXinhuan: oh
21:11.40Arrowmasteryssaril: sinklib
21:12.01Funkeh`Xinhuan: I think its 1min after death
21:12.31XinhuanFunkeh`: perhaps you can add a despawn timer for certain corpses depending on the player's class?
21:12.46Xinhuanit'll be helpful to know how many seconds remaining we have to loot the corpse before it despawns
21:12.58OrionShockzomg, i motion to bring back Group Que for AV
21:12.59yssarilArrowmaster: thanks
21:13.06Xinhuanlike if i'm a mage, i would want the Staff of Disintegration's corpse timer
21:13.18kadrahilOff topic, has anyone had any experience using vmware server in linux?
21:13.19yssarilOrionShock: they said that they are wanting to do that in the future
21:13.36OrionShocksure..
21:13.46OrionShockalliance would whine bitch and moan
21:14.11yssarilOrionShock: ever heard of scorn?
21:14.23OrionShockthe word ? yes
21:14.38yssarilnope the losse alliance of horde pvpers
21:14.39SarozFunkeh`, you adding the warnings?
21:14.59yssarillets put it this way 10-17min AV games (horde wins)
21:15.42OrionShockit's very doable, just everyone needs to know wtf thier doing
21:15.53yssariland they also had some fun with the snow during last winter they defended the base naked for 1hour with jsut snowballs and then continued to win the game :P
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21:16.02OrionShockyou actualy can still group que for av, just it's a little harder now
21:16.13Funkeh`Saroz: I'm doing black temple atm
21:16.15yssarilyea talk about fun AV runs man i miss those days
21:16.28SarozFunkeh`, excuses!
21:16.45yssarilyou mean the everyone hit que at the smae itme method?
21:16.47Funkeh`I don't think adding bars is a good idea
21:16.53Funkeh`That point of the fight is already kinda spammy
21:16.53OrionShockno with an addon
21:17.06yssarilahhh same thing then basically
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21:17.08Sarozbars? just want a "Cosmic Infuser killed!"
21:17.21yssariljust a bit more exact
21:17.26OrionShockwhat they did is make the av guy unresponsive to JoinBattlefild(0,1) -- where 1 is "Que as Group" option
21:17.41OrionShockyou can still /run JoinBattlefield(0)
21:17.41SarozFunkeh`, it's not spamming in P2 though
21:17.41yssarilyep
21:17.51OrionShockLazyQue on the SVN does this
21:18.02OrionShockwaits for the addon message and ques on command
21:18.03yssarilOrionShock: and that will groupjoin?
21:18.41OrionShockwon't group join, it similtaiously ques the group at the same time , but evryone needs to be at the que guy with the window open for it to work
21:18.49yssarilk thought so
21:19.11OrionShocklittle harder, best with combind with vent, but works for the most part
21:19.19Shadowed|No OrionShock, what they did was actually check to make sure you could group queue
21:19.39OrionShocksame effect Shadowed|
21:19.43Shadowed|uhh not really
21:20.06yssariland if you need to get rid of non grou members you open a port to shat and yell "help me summon my friend he gliched and spawned at the alliance side)
21:20.06Shadowed|making him unresponsive to JoinBattlefield(0,1) would imply it doesn't work period, saying that it makes sure you can group queue before doing implies it works for everything except AV
21:20.39SaladForkWell, we just 4-manned Attumen, >.<
21:20.43SaladForkWith 2 hunters as DPS
21:20.49Xinhuan:o
21:20.58abugwhat kind of healer?
21:20.58SaladForkOur new tank couldn't hold still
21:21.01OrionShocksymantics :P, unresponsive to the 2nd argument in the api call
21:21.01SaladForkResto Shammy
21:21.10SaladForkWe had a Resto Shammy, Prot Warrior, BM Hunter, Survival Hunter
21:21.10Xinhuanwouldn't the trash mobs to attunmen take forever to clear to with 4-man?
21:21.13SaladForkand both hunters were meeling
21:21.15abugdid he use any mana pots?
21:21.16SaladForkXin - we got to Attumen with 10 men
21:21.20SaladForkOur new tank couldn't hold still
21:21.25SaladForkSo Attumen took us all out
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21:21.32Xinhuanoh
21:21.32SaladForkExcept for the tank, healer, and 2 hunters
21:21.39SaladForkAnd they took down the last 60%
21:21.45SaladForkabug - Mana Pots and Mana Tide
21:22.03Xinhuan"hold still" means what?
21:22.15SaladForkXin - As in he was running in circles for some reason, >.<
21:22.16Saint-N"stop moving"
21:22.28SaladForkSo people were being charged and cleaved
21:22.31Xinhuanbad :)
21:22.44SaladForkWell, we did it nonetheless
21:22.46SaladForkOnto Moroes
21:23.20abughow are you going to do the aoe pulls?
21:26.21SaladForkAbug - Those are the best part of Kara
21:26.25SaladForkI effectively solo those, =)
21:26.46SaladForkWe get a tank pulling the elite guy and holding aggro against him, have the priest bubble me, and I just run around doing all my AoE BS with the priest keeping me alive
21:26.52SaladForkmost are non-elite and go down fast
21:27.38abugI usually get a few on me as a resto shaman from healing
21:27.55abugmore if I was solo healing it
21:28.08SaladForkTell your mages to go nuts
21:28.17Xinhuanyour mages need to go nuts after 2 consecrates, and possibly frost nova
21:28.44Xinhuanbrb
21:28.50abugoh you have ten
21:28.53abugdidn't read that part
21:29.46SaladForkMoroes will be interesting though
21:29.48SaladForkWe only have 1 tank
21:29.55kadrahilyou can do it with one tank
21:29.59SaladForkI know
21:30.00kadrahilwell
21:30.11SaladForkWe usually do Attumen -> Maiden -> Moroes with just one tank
21:30.19kadrahil:O
21:30.25kadrahilwe use an OT for attumen at least
21:30.40SaladForkWe have our fury warrior offtank for a while, /shrug
21:30.49kadrahilyeah
21:30.56buuHrm.
21:31.03Xinhuana fury warrior that is tanking, is considered a tank
21:31.07Xinhuanwhy wouldn't you? :o
21:31.14SaladForkXin - I disagree
21:31.22SaladForkusually when people say "tank" they're talking about someone who is specced to tank
21:31.23SaladFork=P
21:31.31buuAre there any recommended type addons that display wowhead comments?
21:31.34SaladForkA fury warrior can be tanking, but that doesn't make him a tank
21:31.35abugwarlocks on twin emps
21:31.45Xinhuani disagree, when people say a tank, it usually means someone designated to hold aggro on something, whether they are specced that way or not :)
21:31.57kadrahilrogues can evade tank!
21:32.10kadrahilmy pet tanked illhoof's imp pet
21:32.17Xinhuanfor example, i'm a tank on maulgar's Krosh
21:32.25Xinhuanbut i dont have to be specced ice barrier to tank him
21:32.34Xinhuan(bad example, i know)
21:32.36kadrahilXinhuan: i tank Maulgar's shaman
21:32.41kadrahilXinhuan: and i'm a hunter
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21:32.49SaladForkXinhuan - I'm talking about a difference between "tank" as a verb and a noun
21:32.49kadrahilrange tanking ftw
21:33.00Xinhuanyeah, a tank is simply someone designated to hold aggro - that's a noun
21:33.04SaladFork/shrug
21:33.09SaladForkI guess it's different on my server
21:33.53Xinhuannot really - so if you run a pug 5-man non-heroic instance and the warrior in your party isn't specced prot, are you going to say you did that instance with no tanks?
21:33.59Xinhuansay shadow labs
21:34.34buuXinhuan: Depends on if the warrior is actually holding aggro..
21:34.37SaladForkHeh
21:34.43SaladForkIn this server, people don't let off-specs tank, =)
21:34.45SaladForkOr heal, for that matter
21:35.03kadrahilXinhuan: i did that once, and it took 7 hours to get to Murmur
21:35.06kadrahilXinhuan: bad idea
21:35.07Xinhuani wonder if that's a good thing or a bad thing hehe
21:35.30kadrahilXinhuan: we wiped nearly every single pull.. i was desparate to get my key so i stayed :(
21:35.45Xinhuanmaybe the warrior just sucked
21:35.50kadrahilXinhuan: he did.
21:36.00kadrahilXinhuan: no doubt about it
21:36.11Coreyhi again fork
21:36.17Xinhuanand didn't attempt to get aggro on mobs on healers, etc
21:36.20yssarilis there a way to find out which direction the camera is facing?
21:36.36kadrahilXinhuan: it's ok, i have put that nightmare behind me and the scars are fading
21:36.50yssarilsay 15 degrees northwest or somthing like that
21:37.02Xinhuanyssaril: not sure - can try looking around the way the minimap draws the arrow?
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21:37.17SaladForkHiya Corey
21:37.34NeoTronCryect: I thought I read that recount would have an option for a "current fight" that remains after end of combat
21:37.39NeoTroni.e "most recent or current" fight
21:37.40SaladForkNeo - it's in there now
21:37.50yssarilhmmm
21:37.51NeoTronhow do you get that? I only have current and previous one..
21:37.57SaladForkConfig Recount -> Window tab -> "Autoswitch Shown Fight"
21:38.15SaladForkShould be in the second column
21:38.19NeoTronhmm wonder how I missed that. been looking through the config several times
21:38.22NeoTronI'll check tonight
21:47.53Arrowmasterok seriously wtf
21:48.09Arrowmasterseamonkey is using 139000k of ram
21:48.28Arrowmasterbut its using 1388000k of virtual ram
21:50.59dreamss2sounds like opera
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21:52.55Arrowmasterhow it can use that much virtual memory i dont know
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21:59.15the-golemwow
21:59.27the-golemPitbull is intense
21:59.43deltronjust started using it?
21:59.44Pkekyoaye, imba doggies
22:00.02the-golemyeah
22:00.07deltroni <3 pitbull
22:00.27the-golemi noticed that you can import layouts, which is cool
22:01.03the-golemso, anywhere i can find some pitbull layouts? *g*
22:02.06deltronI just use a default theme and change the size of them
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22:02.21deltronI need to find a good layout for raids though
22:02.30deltronhaving half my screen taken up is kinda ftl
22:02.55durcynperfectraid layout scaled down to 80% works well enough.. or just perfectraid itself :o
22:03.16Mudkipsdoes pitbull show powergains?
22:03.17deltrondoesn't tell me enough :)
22:03.18Mudkipslike innervate?
22:03.29MudkipsI might just get rid of sraid and use pitbull for the raidframes too
22:03.42Mudkipsits just that the first time I got in a raid with default pitbull shocked me
22:03.44deltronpitbull is awesome with the amount of data you can get from them
22:03.53Mudkipsshocked me with HUGE LIEK XBOX FRAMES
22:03.59deltronyeah
22:04.08deltronI pretty much use that size
22:05.20Mudkipsanyone know if you can macro a whisper depending if the spell was casted successfully on the target?
22:06.53the-golemok umm
22:07.22the-golemanyone tweak the chatbox in game to whre it gets rid of the HUGE scroll buttons and puts in a normal scrollbar? :P
22:08.17deltronprat :)
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22:14.58CIA-1403thexod * r47719 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua:
22:14.58CIA-14ItemValue:
22:14.58CIA-14- Fixed some things I broke with the setfenv change
22:16.31the-golemi thought Prat was a library
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22:17.34Chompersand that's Lurker down
22:17.41Coreygrats
22:17.44ChompersVR/Mag/Lurker in a week
22:17.47Chompersawesome
22:19.07charonis lurker just feral friendly, compared to rogues, or did i actually do well?
22:19.50NeoTronOoh I love my decked out gear in this profile: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai
22:20.25Pkekyohttp://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2007/08/29/510417.html <--- watch the movie
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22:26.16buuHrm.
22:27.55HjalteTonight we dine in HELL!
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22:30.30MudkipsI know vashj is feral friendly
22:30.34Mudkips:)
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22:31.41Aens|Superioritycharon: depends on the rogue gear level
22:31.58Aens|Superioritycharon: if you haven't gotten much t5 yet, feral damage is > rogue damage
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22:32.41hypetechare the layouts for pitbull not included with the mod anymore?
22:32.57Aens|Superioritybut once people start getting t5, even if you are in full dps t5, they will beat you
22:33.49Hjaltehypetech, nope
22:34.48hypetechHjalte: where can I get them?
22:34.57HjalteI have no idea :)
22:35.01HjalteTell me when you find out
22:37.25the-golemhypetech: i guess not :-(
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22:46.26CIA-1403joshborke * r47720 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
22:46.26CIA-14LibStub: LS-8
22:46.27CIA-14- minor optimization to GetLibrary (<3 shadowed :P)
22:46.53JoshBorke~lart shadowed
22:46.53purlhauls shadowed up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles
22:47.29Shadowed|picky bastard
22:47.40Shadowed|at least you saved 0.000000000001 seconds of execution toime!
22:47.41Shadowed|time*
22:47.43JoshBorkehey, i could have been worse
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22:47.56JoshBorkei could have done: local major = self.libs[major]
22:48.02JoshBorkejust in case it exists
22:48.25Shadowed|go make HA's wiki page =(
22:48.33JoshBorkeno
22:48.43JoshBorkei'll make HA's wiki page if you'll make grouping work in LegoBlocks
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22:49.35ckknighthey all
22:49.38Ominoushey
22:49.40Stan__hi dark knight :P
22:49.40JoshBorkehi pants
22:49.40Ominoushow are  you?
22:49.50ckknightpants?
22:49.52ckknightI'm fine
22:49.55JoshBorkei dunno shorts
22:49.59JoshBorkeKaelten: ping
22:50.05Kaeltenyo?
22:50.11JoshBorkegief more combine love ;-P
22:50.16ckknightwhy does pastey suck now
22:50.17ckknight?
22:50.39Kaeltenguillitine is taking it over
22:50.59JoshBorkeKaelten: and what's the status of LibStub now?  i saw it hit RC, what does that mean for it?
22:51.11Kaelten1.0 in a day or two probably
22:51.24JoshBorkebased on what testing?
22:51.52JoshBorkenot trying to be offensive, merely out of curiousity
22:52.12AmadeoExtensive testing of over 72 top raiding guilds across 33 servers!
22:52.21Stan__what's LibStub?
22:52.23JoshBorkesounds like an ad for threat
22:52.26Amadeolol
22:52.32ckknightKaelten: I wants it now
22:52.51ckknight:-P
22:53.12Kaeltenno testing just process
22:53.14Kaeltenj/k
22:53.14ckknightKaelten: also, there probably should be a wiki page or something about it
22:53.18JoshBorkelol
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22:53.21Kaeltenya
22:53.26ckknightimportant, future of Babble: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8173.0
22:53.32Stan__or atleast a discription on the /files/ page
22:53.36JoshBorkei'll do it
22:53.45JoshBorkecan i create a wowwiki page for LibStub?
22:53.51ckknightplease, JoshBorke
22:54.55Kaeltengo for it
22:55.01Kaeltenit should have auto doc stuff for it already
22:55.03Kaeltenso you can import that
22:55.25JoshBorkedenied
22:55.36Kaeltenhrm can't remember if cross wiki includes are enabled
22:56.17Kaeltenjust make it on wowace's wiki
22:56.33Kaeltenand we can make a page on mediawiki and link back here for the documentation
22:56.41JoshBorkeGD MISTYPERS!  now i gotta recreate my account
22:56.48Kaeltenlol
22:56.51Kaeltensorry:P
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22:58.21JoshBorkepurl, spank Kaelten
22:58.22purlACTION bends Kaelten over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Kaelten's pasty white buttocks.
22:58.30Kaeltenlol
22:58.48Funkeh`I'm hoping ModID's will largely reduce the need or even extinguish the need for babble boss ckknight
22:58.50Kaeltenwho's been on the ptr with a bunch of addons?
22:59.04AmadeoI've been on the PTR with no addons :P
22:59.13ckknightFunkeh`: yes, but we live in 2.1 (almost 2.2), not 2.4
22:59.17Funkeh`Kaelten: I have, why?
22:59.19art3misand ive got a bunch of addons and no ptr!
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22:59.23ckknightwhen we hit 2.4, we'll be able to reassess the situation
22:59.28Amadeoart3mis: We should meet up
22:59.36art3mistotally!
22:59.38Funkeh`ckknight: I know, I'm just hoping away.
22:59.40KaeltenFunkeh`: any breakage?
22:59.47art3misyou wanna bring the peanut butter or chocolate?
22:59.51Funkeh`Kaelten: Not from the addons I use anyway.
22:59.54AmadeoPBJ time
23:00.00ckknightKaelten: there's been no major changes to the API
23:00.07ckknightjust addition of stuff
23:00.27AmadeoPatch needs to go live for one reason, so blessings are 10 minutes and not 5!
23:00.44JoshBorkei have no idea if i did it correctly
23:00.47JoshBorkebut i made a page on wowace :-D
23:01.13Amadeowhen I visit wowace.com, it says JoshBorke in big flashing letters
23:01.21CidanJust, when you do change the API, please go through a deprecation period.  Pretty please. :P
23:01.27JoshBorkethen i've obviously done it right
23:01.29Amadeohaha
23:01.41Stan__JoshBorke: http://wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=LibStub&action=edit
23:01.55ckknightCidan: this is Blizz, not us
23:02.05NightHawkTheSane"Don't get me wrong, I love the job." "Oh yeah, lousy hours, tons of peril, who could argue?"
23:02.05CidanOh, right, I knew that.
23:02.06Cidan:D
23:02.09ckknight:-P
23:02.29*** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-138-93-24.range86-138.btcentralplus.com)
23:02.52JoshBorkeKaelten: so i just got an email from wowace wiki saying someone registered, but the ip listed is totally wrong
23:03.23Kaelten?
23:03.32Kaeltenwhat ip? you're ip?
23:03.34JoshBorkeyea
23:03.37NightHawkTheSaneyour mom's  ip.
23:03.39Kaeltenits probably telling you the ip of the squid server
23:03.52JoshBorke"Someone, probably you from IP address ??.??.??.???, has registered an account..."
23:04.14JoshBorke65.98.12.<privacy please, don't want everyone to know anyone's business>
23:04.30Kaelten65.98.12.195
23:04.32Kaelten?
23:04.38JoshBorkeno, 208
23:04.54Kaeltenah ya thats one of the ips on wowace's box
23:05.00art3mishey ckk
23:05.03ckknighthey art3mis
23:05.12art3misi got a neat addon request for you to putz around with
23:05.13Kaeltenprobably the proxy
23:05.19art3miswell neat to me anyways
23:05.34ckknightlet's hear it
23:05.39JoshBorkeart3mis: no!  he's uspposed to write the in game wiki for me!
23:05.47art3misya know how everyone has a colelction of raid/party related things? like threat recount grid etc?
23:05.48ckknightnot happening, JoshBorke
23:05.51ckknightI just don't care enough
23:05.58ckknightart3mis: yea?
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23:06.35art3misis it possible to say create a "box" and have all yer raid stuff layedout in the box. then close or minimize the box and all the addons unload and dissappear and then you open or maximize the box and all the addons start up?
23:07.04Stan__neat idea
23:07.05HjalteHmm. I've heard of an addon like that recently, me thinks.
23:07.06art3misand go where they were positioned?
23:07.19Funkeh`ckknight: I think you should have a core Babble addon to do all the thinking and the localization like Zone etc be separate addons from the get go.
23:07.36ckknightwell, I was thinking that all the modules would be separate addons
23:07.45ckknightbut I don't see the point of the core Babble addon
23:07.47JoshBorkehm, that should be made easier with the new event stuff where you can get what events are currently registered
23:08.00KaeltenJoshBorke: fixed your template
23:08.00Funkeh`The point of the core is so you don't replicate code within the modules
23:08.17art3mishjalte: really?
23:08.36Hjalteart3mis, yeah, and I think it was an actual addon. I just can't remembet the name.
23:08.43art3misthink harder man!
23:08.44ckknightFunkeh`: yes, and although that seems okay, without it, you have babble modules with absolutely no dependencies
23:08.54art3misthat to me would make an awesome awesome addon
23:09.00Funkeh`I don't think that makes any sense
23:09.06Funkeh`Considering most people would use several
23:09.15ckknightnot always.
23:09.16art3misspecially if you could set custom boxes for like party, raid, solo, crafting, idling etc
23:09.22Funkeh`Like PT3 for example, has a thinking addon, and external modules.
23:09.24JoshBorkebut, but! k, thxs
23:09.28ckknightin fact, many times they'd use just one
23:09.45art3misessentially toggle yer layout/ui dep3ending on what you're doing
23:09.48Funkeh`So? theres still no downside to using 2 addons for that
23:10.08Arrowmastermaking 10 copies of a dvd fucking takes forever......
23:10.10Funkeh`Also I disagree, you would find it very hard to find someone that only uses 1 part of bable
23:10.28art3misArrowmaster: dont be cheap and get a good burner ;P
23:10.29Funkeh`I'm not talking about addons I'm talking about users.
23:10.47art3miswhya re you making 10 copies anyways?
23:10.52Arrowmasterart3mis: 16x is the fastest you can get
23:11.17art3misand more importantly if you make that many copies frequently why dont you own a 299 5-at-once replicator
23:11.32Arrowmasteri dont usually burn much
23:11.35JoshBorkemaybe it's a one time thing dip shit :-P
23:11.51JoshBorkesorry, that came out way to harsh
23:11.52Arrowmasteri just have to burn 10 copies of this one dvd for family
23:11.54art3mishahah
23:12.07JoshBorketell them to download it off the web
23:12.15art3mishave you thought of just all sitting around the same tv at the same time and watching it?
23:12.23art3misthen you'd only need 1 ;P
23:12.35JoshBorkeparallel execution is where it's at
23:12.39art3misoh btw watched superbad last night
23:12.47art3misit's got some great lines in it
23:13.12art3misckknight: back to my addon idea
23:13.20JoshBorkeKaelten: you didn't fix my description of LibStub :-P
23:13.21ckknightFunkeh`: I'm talking about externals, not standalones
23:13.23art3misckknight: is it possible?
23:13.29ckknightart3mis: probably, but not for me
23:13.33Arrowmasterits a memorial dvd about the 10th armored division in ww2 that my uncles grandfather was in
23:13.44Kaeltennope I moved it though
23:13.47JoshBorkethat's illegal!  i'm reporting you!
23:13.51Funkeh`ckknight: Then you set Babble and Bable-x as externals, exactly like PT3
23:13.54art3misckknight: not something you see as neat? or just above your ability?
23:14.00Arrowmasteractually the dvd didnt have any css on it
23:14.25art3misarrow you could just ask for more copies if its military produced ;P
23:14.39art3misand save that 3.25 you've wasted on your own blanks ;P
23:14.39Arrowmastermy uncle did ask for more copies
23:14.43ckknightart3mis: something I just don't care about
23:14.57JoshBorkeckknight is not inspired
23:15.03art3misbooooooo
23:15.05JoshBorkeit's hard to work on a mod you're not motivated to do
23:15.11mikmaTuller: ohnoes! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7493-Valuation.html
23:15.15Arrowmasterthey wouldnt give any more, only 1 copy per family
23:15.33Tullermikma: i'm aware :P
23:15.36Arrowmasterand where did you get 3.25 from?
23:15.52mikmaTuller: OHNOES!
23:16.29art3misArrowmaster: the cost of 10 blanks ;P
23:16.57AmadeoI notice that Polarina updates Valuation and has no changelog
23:17.08art3missince 100 is about 15 bucks ;P 3.25 is a gross over estimation
23:17.46Arrowmasteri think i spent atleast $30-50 on my two spindles of 50 each
23:18.20Arrowmasterbut i dont buy cheapass dvds
23:18.25art3miswhere do you live greenland?
23:18.35Arrowmasterno
23:18.40Arrowmasteri ordered them online
23:19.00art3misi have a spindle of imations presently that i paid 17.99 for
23:19.10Arrowmasterrofl imations
23:19.16art3mismy previous unbraded printables was 12.99
23:19.24art3misi dont get costers ;P
23:19.27art3miscoasters
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23:21.43Arrowmasteri get my dvd-r's from rima.com
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23:28.10AmadeoI love these Linux guides on installing ndiswrapper...they tell you to just use the package manager and download it from the repository...that's nice and all, but if my wireless card doesn't work because I need ndiswrapper, that's not really an option :P
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23:28.57Arrowmasterso download the package manually and copie it over then install it
23:29.20Amadeothe wireless is my only way to get on anything
23:29.40AmadeoThey should include ndiswrapper on every Linux install CD
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23:31.03CidanAmadeo, er, what distro?
23:31.05Cidan:D
23:31.37AmadeoI've been playing around with a bunch on this laptop
23:31.57Amadeojust for fun, since I have the CDs
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23:32.06Amadeothis time I'm on Fedora
23:32.20JoshBorkeor use a thumbdrive
23:32.38AmadeoI don't have one! :(
23:33.15yssarilis there anywhere more info about sinklib other than http://wowace.com/wiki/SinkLib everything seams to be needing documentation
23:37.00kebinusanwhat! who doesnt have a thumb drive in this day and age
23:37.33kebinusangoogle the package and sneaker net it to the laptop :-)
23:41.14AmadeoI just put it on a damn CD
23:41.15Amadeolol
23:41.29JoshBorkelol
23:41.30JoshBorkeyou fail
23:41.53AmadeoI have a floppy drive, but no disks :P
23:42.35AmadeoI'm mainly just curious if a kernel update is going to fix ACPI
23:42.40Amadeoif not, screw all these!
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23:44.27CIA-1403pb_ee1 * r47721 10ChatLog/ (ChatLog.toc Locale-zhCN.lua): ChatLog: Re-enabling zhCN locale. Translation is not complete though.
23:45.07Amadeowhy do I need a network connection to install a local package?
23:45.18Funkeh`Is wowace down or is my ISP sucking again?
23:45.26JoshBorkeyour isp is sucking as always
23:45.31Funkeh`:<
23:46.26Mudkipswhich ISP?
23:46.46Funkeh`Vritish Telecom
23:46.49Funkeh`B*
23:47.17Mudkipseh
23:47.20Mudkipssucks to be you
23:47.49Funkeh`Sucks to be living in the UK, shit ISP's all round.
23:47.59JoshBorkesounds like it sucks to be funkeh
23:48.04JoshBorkeso therefore funkeh sucks?
23:48.54NightHawkTheSaneamd well! er... >.>
23:48.56Funkeh`You make too many funnys.
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23:57.23CIA-1403damjau * r47722 10beql/locales/localization-ko.lua: beql: - update koKR locals
23:57.48art3misbah someone go make me the addon i requested
23:57.54CIA-1403damjau * r47723 10ClosetGnome_Banker/Banker.lua: ClosetGnome_Banker - update koKR locals
23:57.55hypetechhow can I get the background of grid to go transparent?
23:57.58hypetechI can't find the option
23:58.25CIA-1403damjau * r47724 10ClosetGnome_Fishing/Locale.lua: ClosetGnome_Fishing - update koKR locals
23:58.41hypetechfound it
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