IRC log for #wowace on 20070826

00:01.55ckknight..
00:02.08Neeblerhaw!
00:07.37AmadeoHemlock doesn't work anymore?
00:08.08AmadeoHm, now it is..that was strange
00:08.15AmadeoIt would make 2 poisons then stop, 2 poisons then stop
00:08.19Amadeonow it's making all of them finally
00:13.48Diaolol
00:13.52Diaothat is strange
00:16.42CIA-1403ckknight 07Joker * r47413 10CowTip/CowTip/ (CowTip.toc embeds.xml libs/):
00:16.42CIA-14CowTip - add LibJokerConfig-1.0 to libs and embeds.xml
00:16.42CIA-14- removed the -Ace2- thing in the TOC.
00:21.20AmadeoJoker is holding CowTip hostage, someone signal Batman!
00:22.17|Stan|*lights up signal*
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00:23.01ckknight:-P
00:23.03CIA-1403ckknight 07ckknight * r47414 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - make the configuration show a reload button that becomes enabled if an option changes, instead of automatically reloading at times.
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00:31.42TNSeso when is Fubar-Joker ready :P
00:32.01ckknightthere are quite a few libs to port for that to happen
00:32.06TNSe:/
00:32.08ckknightand I'll likely redo FuBarPlugin entirely
00:32.23TNSe<3 fubar
00:33.16ckknighthehe
00:33.21ckknightFuBar was my first addon :-P
00:33.41TNSeand its the first thing I install every time I have to reinstall my ui
00:33.47TNSecan't live without the bar at top/bottom
00:35.24Chompersyou have it at the bottom too?
00:35.29TNSeyeh :P
00:35.33TNSeI play windowed
00:35.43kenlyricso, I just can't grep from the updates/name what joker is.
00:36.02TNSeAce v3, except done better ;)
00:36.03CIA-1403gagorian * r47415 10DrDamage/Data/Druid.lua:
00:36.03CIA-14DrDamage:
00:36.03CIA-14- Druid idol update
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00:37.18QuantumDelta*Pokies ckknight*
00:37.24ckknighthrm?
00:37.28QuantumDeltaaha
00:37.31QuantumDeltabeen wanting to catch ya
00:37.43TNSeGagorian, tough question, but are you planning to implement into the tooltip a method to compare stats based on their itemization value? :
00:37.44TNSe:P
00:37.46QuantumDeltaI have a hopefully easy question regarding main assist windows in pitbull
00:38.00ckknightTNSe: seeing as I wrote most of Ace2 and Ace3 hasn't been talked about or designed in any real form, you can't say that it's better than Ace3, as Ace3 does not really exist
00:38.09ckknightQuantumDelta: k?
00:38.11QuantumDeltado you know any addons that actually use those unitframes?
00:38.23TNSeckknight, :P
00:38.25ckknightno, QuantumDelta
00:38.34QuantumDeltaThey seem to be the equivilent of "Player Targets" in ora2/ctra
00:38.41ckknighthrm
00:38.53QuantumDeltabut don't link up
00:38.57ckknightif I get a good API for getting the names of said player targets, I could make it double
00:39.25QuantumDeltawant me to try to find out for you?
00:39.47QuantumDeltabaring in mind i'm basically just a user with an interest I might be a bit useless to ya :<
00:39.51TNSeckknight, you prefer "improved ace2" then? :P
00:40.01ckknight*shrug*
00:40.17ckknightit's a new framework written from scratch, with the hindsight of Dongle, Ace2, Cosmos, etc.
00:40.42TNSeheh
00:40.54GagorianTNSe: I doubt it.
00:41.04TNSemeh :P
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00:44.17[Liquidor]ckknight, heh still have to explain what it is? :)
00:44.29ckknight...yea
00:44.38[Liquidor]Can anyone tell me what the \number is for the sign | is ?
00:44.47NightHawkTheSanegoogle could
00:45.09Xinhuanits \124
00:45.13[Liquidor]thanks
00:45.14Xinhuanoff the top of my head
00:45.19[Liquidor]so...
00:45.22NightHawkTheSanedon't give people answers :P
00:45.26[Liquidor]\124cff ?
00:45.37Xinhuanya
00:45.39Mecdemortis there a difference betwen local type = type; and local type = _G.type  ?
00:45.50XinhuanMecdemort: no difference
00:46.12Gagorian_G. is slower?
00:46.19Xinhuanits the same speed i believe
00:46.25Xinhuanone just looks uglier
00:46.37Mecdemorthmm what if i've already done local _G = _G
00:47.01Xinhuanits still the same speed - you have to table lookup inside the _G table
00:47.10Mecdemortok
00:49.20Gagorian_G.type is definately slower than type
00:51.01GagorianIf you do local _G = _G; local type = _G.type is a bit faster or roughly the same speed as local type = type
00:52.28GagorianBut if you only make local copies of a few functions it's better to not make a local copy of _G just for that.
00:52.42GagorianSo, I'd personally go with local type = type
00:52.43Gagorian:P
00:52.52Funkeh`Its also not fugly
00:52.59GagorianIndeed
00:53.11NightHawkTheSaneyour mom's not fugly.
00:53.30Xinhuani think we're thinking too much over something as small as 16 clock cycles or something of code that only gets run once ;p
00:54.05Funkeh`NightHawkTheSane: Why thanks!
00:54.23NightHawkTheSane:)
00:54.42Funkeh`Your mom is though unfortunately.
00:55.05Xinhuandid they make armory faster or something? firefox is loading it within 0.5s or something instead of half a minute
00:55.07ckknightactually, Gagorian, if _G is local, _G.type is faster than accessing type
00:55.18ckknightseeing as type requires a fenv lookup
00:55.23ckknightwhereas _G.type doesn't
00:55.28Gagorian[03:53:10] <Gagorian> If you do local _G = _G; local type = _G.type is a bit faster or roughly the same speed as local type = type
00:55.32ckknightit's just a table lookup
00:55.42GagorianThat's what I said
00:56.23Gagorianbut local _G = _G costs also something
00:56.39Xinhuanit costs a fenv lookup ;p
00:56.41ckknightyea, 8 bytes
00:56.43ckknight:-P
00:56.46ckknightmemory-wise
00:57.01ckknightand if you never use it again, even though the local is in the scope, it's thrown away
00:58.00GagorianWell, it's slightly faster but the difference is so small it's not really worth it :p
00:59.11TNSelol
00:59.52TNSesounds like someone needs to make a preparser and optimizer for wow scripting :P
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01:03.08ckknight:-P
01:03.17ckknightpart of me wishes lua had macros
01:03.21ckknightfor things like that
01:03.54TNSemacros like?
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01:05.00nevcairielpreprocessor macros in C
01:05.02nevcairielfor example :p
01:05.04nevcairielgood stuff
01:06.44TNSeah
01:06.46TNSeyeah
01:07.23ckknightnevcairiel: I'd totally use it for asserts and the like
01:07.25TNSeI used to do unrealscript programming for a good while
01:07.37TNSelooooooong time
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01:13.00ckknighttechnically, we could create our own macro system, it's just that we'd then need to wrap every lua file in some kind of myload([====[ code here ]====])
01:13.24Xinhuanthat would be gay to parse it yourself ;p
01:13.42ckknightwell, yes.
01:13.49ckknightnot horrible, though
01:13.56Xinhuannot elegant
01:13.59Xinhuanlol
01:14.54ckknight*shrug*
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01:26.36SilowyiWTB: people that don't stand in flame patches
01:29.50TNSey?
01:30.04TNSetell them to look from top
01:30.11TNSeits hard to spot them flame patches if you don't >_<
01:30.25Xinhuandepends on video card actually
01:30.54Xinhuanmy old video card couldn't draw vashj's poison, nightbane's fire patch, or alar's flame patch on the floor - all i can see is the smoke from it
01:31.04TNSeeverything on my machine looks the same red color in al'ars room
01:31.14TNSeit makes my eyes bleed
01:31.27Matrix110your graphics card are seriously fucked or damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn old
01:31.37Xinhuanit was a 6600
01:31.41Xinhuanthat couldn't draw it
01:31.43TNSegf8800 or so
01:31.56Matrix110erm then the user infront of the Pc is doing something wrong
01:32.02TNSe8600
01:32.06TNSeheh
01:32.07Matrix110a 6600 is perfectly capable of displaying these effects...
01:32.08TNSeI can see it
01:32.17Xinhuannto a 6600 on a AGp
01:32.21TNSeI just don't like al'ars room
01:32.23Xinhuanon a 1 ghz comp
01:32.23TNSeits so reddish
01:32.26Matrix110but if you dont turn spell details up well then its your own fault
01:32.38Matrix110a 6600 can of course display them...
01:32.58Xinhuantried lots of stuff, it just doesn't display those effects, everything else was fine
01:33.03Matrix110its your fault your cant see em
01:33.09Matrix110either your Client is fucked
01:33.20SilowyiWTB: people who don't get tired and go to sleep after 2 hours of raiding :P
01:33.20Xinhuani am using the exact same client on my new comp
01:33.20Matrix110your card is fucked(but i doubt that if it works normally elsewhere)
01:33.24Matrix110your drivers are fucked
01:33.33Xinhuani am also using the same exact drivers now
01:33.35Xinhuanas my old card
01:33.49Xinhuanall i did was take my hd out and put it in my new PC and booted from it
01:33.59Xinhuannforce drivers work for both 6600 and 8800
01:34.04Matrix110thats like the worst thing you can possibly do...
01:34.23Matrix110just because they work for both cards doesnt mean they work as they got installed...
01:34.37Xinhuannot exactly - both manuals said to update to the latest and that's the latest
01:34.49CIA-1403phanx * r47416 10OnScreenHealth/ (. Locale-koKR.lua OnScreenHealth.lua OnScreenHealth.toc): (log message trimmed)
01:34.49CIA-14OnScreenHealth:
01:34.49CIA-14- Added more formats for health text
01:34.49CIA-14- Added class/hostility color mode for health text
01:34.49CIA-14- Cleaned up alpha mode options
01:34.49TNSeI see flame patches fine :P
01:34.50CIA-14- Increased range for setting positions
01:34.52CIA-14- Fixed player frame showing as a ghost when showDead is disabled
01:34.57TNSethe problem is that the entire room makes my eyes bleed :P
01:35.23Matrix110You took your Windows from another machine with drivers for THIS machine that only work as good as on that machine with exactly the same hardware and put it into another PC with other hardware components
01:35.55Xinhuancorrect - and without reinstalling anything totally, it now works
01:36.05Xinhuani only reinstalled mb drivers
01:36.14Xinhuansince its a different mb
01:36.16Matrix110ah well have fun with a messed up system
01:36.50Xinhuani dont' see how it can be messed up as both gxcards manuals point to the same place to download the latest driver updates lol
01:37.12Matrix110you cant believe that a installation routine might be able to do a simple check WHICH graphics card you got isntalled?
01:37.36Matrix110just because Nvidia offers driver packages for dumbasses so they cant choose the wrong one doesnt mean there is only 1 unified driver inside..
01:37.47Xinhuanexplain to me then, why installing the latest drivers on my old machine didn't work to display the spell effects on the floor, while moving it to a new PC works without reinstalling anything
01:38.07Matrix110because you messed something up is my guess
01:38.23Matrix110a 6600 is totally capable of displaying these effects and prolly does it in some thousand PCs
01:39.25NightHawkTheSaneoh, just dropit
01:39.30Xinhuandoesn't matter anymore
01:39.35Xinhuandont' use the 6600 anymore
01:46.24Funkeh`Anyone rememebr the console command to show fps in :Source?
01:46.45NightHawkTheSane"How'd you learn to drive?" "Daniel Jackson instructed me." "Oh yeah, when was that?" "I believe the year was 1969."
01:47.12Funkeh`:)
01:56.47CIA-1403kemayo * r47417 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Comments/FuBar_QuestsFu_Comments.toc:
01:56.47CIA-14FuBar_QuestsFu:
01:56.47CIA-14- Give Comments an OptDep on Details so when people run disembedded it's easier.
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02:01.54BankZI wish SCL color coded by class
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02:11.16Skeptivhey, is acolyte 2 better than necrosis for warlocks? or is there even better one
02:13.29CIA-1403phanx * r47418 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealth.lua:
02:13.29CIA-14OnScreenHealth:
02:13.29CIA-14- Turned off debugging... again >_<
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02:20.27AntiarcSo I think I've finally solved my crashing/freezing/general system instability issues
02:20.32ckknightoh?
02:20.39AntiarcTurns out my 3.3v rail was running at 2.5v, and my 5v at 4.5v
02:21.08AntiarcSo yeah, just installed a new PSU
02:21.11AntiarcWe'll see how it works
02:22.17ckknightalright
02:22.39QuantumDelta(03:12:40) (Skeptiv) hey, is acolyte 2 better than necrosis for warlocks? or is there even better one <-- Anythings better then Necrosis as long as it doesn't encourage you to spam nonsense in chat channels!
02:22.58kenlyrici am summoning a steed from nightmare.
02:23.07QuantumDelta*cries*
02:23.21kenlyricright, because the whole fucking zone needs to know that.
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02:29.48Yssarili personaly like shardace only use the summon spam :)
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02:32.40dreamss2ahh acolyte needs lifetap button :P
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02:34.04Yssarilckknight is pitbull gonna have a module that shows who is talking in the party/raid come 2.2?
02:34.16ckknightyes
02:34.23Yssarilwoot
02:38.48Funkeh`Not its not.
02:38.53Funkeh`Not until he fixes auras. ;)
02:40.40ckknightlame
02:45.12ckknightk?
02:45.17ckknightfeel special?
02:45.21ZiconI like mango.
02:45.25NightHawkTheSanea little,yes?
02:45.27ckknightyea, mango's good
02:45.40ckknightNightHawkTheSane: I'm pretty sure all those are in the fruit basket of my house.
02:45.51ckknightmaybe not the pomegranate, but that can be bought
02:46.05ckknightfruit's easy to come by here
02:46.07NightHawkTheSanewell, they weren't in mine, which -- not coincidentally -- was why i purchased them.
02:46.18Mecdemortis there a way to do a raw tostring on a table that has a meta field for it?
02:46.25NightHawkTheSaneit's not hard to come by here either, but i just didn't have any
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02:51.37kb1ibtwho should i contact to make an improvement to Mr. Plow?
02:52.23Funkeh`Mrs. Plow
02:52.34NightHawkTheSanehehe
02:52.39kb1ibtlawl
02:55.24kenlyricstrange, my wow client just stopped drawing.
02:55.42xyuit ran out of paper
02:56.15kenlyricug.
02:56.20kenlyricdriver crash
02:56.55kb1ibt<PROTECTED>
02:57.08kb1ibtnope
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03:00.00MecdemortAnyone know how to change the color of lines within a tablet?
03:01.03ckknightMecdemort: 'textR', 1, 'textG', 0, 'textB', 1
03:01.06ckknightfuschia line
03:01.10ckknightwell, column
03:01.20Mecdemortsorry, within a line.  |c..|r doesnt seem to work
03:02.09ckknighthrm
03:02.11ckknightit should.
03:03.10Mecdemorti know, and it works for a string that already has color formatting, but cat:AddLine('text', "|cffffffff{|r") results a { of that bronzish color
03:04.11ThraeWhat is 'cat', a tooltip object?
03:05.01Mecdemortcat = tablet:AddCategory(...)
03:05.07ckknightcategory
03:05.14ThraeAh, that
03:05.54Thraeckknight: If no colour is given, do you have Tablet set the colour to a default colour? Since that'll override |c..|r.
03:05.57ckknightcat, I'm a kitty cat, and I dance-dance-dance and I dance-dance-dance
03:06.15ckknightI believe it sets either to white or to yellow
03:06.18ckknightforget which is default
03:06.25Mecdemortyellow is the default
03:06.46ThraeMecdemort: So you want to use more then one colour in a tablet line?
03:06.51Mecdemortyar
03:07.08ThraeYeah, I think the current implementation sets the entire line to the given colour only
03:07.27ckknightusing |cffstuffs|r should work
03:07.33Mecdemortand it does
03:07.37Mecdemorthold on ill get a pic
03:08.25ckknightwait, if it works, what's the issue?
03:08.44Mecdemortyou'll see, just give me a sec, in the middle of an archimond attempt
03:11.16Yssarilhow do i change how dewdrop anchors to a frame?
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03:11.36ckknighthrm...
03:12.08Yssaril(i mean how can i make it spawn from the bottom top so on
03:13.01Mecdemorthttp://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5928/tabletabletgb8.png  the 2nd line and the -ace- are colored correctly with |c |r, but the first { should be white using the same method
03:14.25Yssarilright now it just spawns out of the left side of my editbox
03:14.33BankZWhat bag replacement do you guys like best?
03:14.44ckknightMecdemort: |r doesn't mean white, so you know, it means yellow in that case
03:15.09Mecdemorti know but |cffffffff{|r should make it white and the rest back to yellow right?
03:15.13ckknightto set it to white by default, do 'textR', 1, 'textG', 1, 'textB', 1
03:15.14YssarilBankZ: currently i am in love with baggins
03:15.16ckknightit should...
03:15.34kenlyricbiblo?
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03:17.55kb1ibtwhat is the easiest way to check via lua as to what type of bag you have example a mining bag verses a regular bag
03:22.02MecdemortGetBagName(0), 1,2,3, GetBagName(4)
03:22.17Mecdemortor you can do it by slots
03:22.53NargiddleyMecdemort, name isnt that easy to goto type from
03:23.26Mecdemortya
03:23.27kb1ibtso basically i would have to know all the names of the different bags per profession,
03:23.33Nargiddleyno you can get the type
03:23.41Nargiddleyi'll get the code baggins uses
03:24.12Mecdemortwow i saw mining as mini
03:25.25Nargiddleyhttp://narg.pastey.net/72753
03:25.39kb1ibtcause basically i was thinking about creating a patch for MrPlow to allow it to sort things out into their respective bag types so that way ore and bars could be in my mining bag and yet not have MrPlow yell at me when it tries to put non-mining stuff in that bag
03:25.42Nargiddleywhere bag is the bag number, 1-11
03:26.00Nargiddleywell, for that you also need a list of things that can go in each bag
03:26.09CIA-1403ckknight 07ckknight * r47419 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua:
03:26.09CIA-14LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add preliminary config table validation. Only checks if contracts are enabled.
03:26.09CIA-14- due to the way lua's garbage collection works, if contracts aren't enabled, all the validation functions et al are destroyed, saving memory :-)
03:26.57kb1ibtNargiddley: mrplow seems to already sort that out since it knows what things are when sorting
03:28.49kb1ibtspecifically line 69-97 of mrplow.lua shows all the different types that it breaks out
03:33.28Wobinkb1ibt: pong
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03:33.59Wobinoh
03:34.01kb1ibtWobin:
03:34.05Wobinhm
03:34.55WobinI think the limitation I have so far is what you pointed out, I need a definitive list of what fits in what bag
03:35.06WobinAlso, I'm rewriting MrPlow slowly
03:35.19kb1ibtbasically since i have a mining bag it gets stuck and i have to add it to the ignore list in order to sort everything else
03:35.26WobinI'll have to figure out how to fit that into the schema
03:39.21CIA-1403yssaril * r47420 10YssGuildShop/ (YssGuildShop.lua YssGuildShop.toc):
03:39.21CIA-14YssGuildShop:
03:39.21CIA-14- clears old data to get rid of errors from a bad SV file
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03:41.40Wobinhm, coroutines to swap items
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03:43.46kb1ibtbasically my thought was check to see if there are any special bags like the mining bags (since there must already be a check for ammo bags) and if there is then seperate those items from the regular sort
03:44.08Wobinyeah
03:44.10kb1ibtand try to fill their bag first then leave the rest to fit into general purpose bags
03:44.45Wobincould be somewhat messy
03:44.55WobinIt's definitely in the todo list though
03:47.51kb1ibtiif i were to come up with some sort of patch that would handle it where do you want me to post the patch file so you could check it and tweak it before going live?
03:49.07Skeptivis there anything like Fishing Buddy aced?
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04:03.51CIA-1403sayclub * r47421 10OnScreenHealth/Locale-koKR.lua:
04:03.51CIA-14OnScreenHealth:
04:03.51CIA-14- Updated localization koKR
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04:29.25mikmagah :O
04:29.35mikmawhy can't there be any good KoS lists out there :(
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04:34.48fireglowEpeen, vanaskos not good?
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04:37.05CIA-1403sayclub * r47422 10OnScreenHealth/Locale-koKR.lua:
04:37.06CIA-14OnScreenHealth:
04:37.06CIA-14- Updated localization koKR(Typo fix)
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04:38.09TNSeis it wrong to summon level 1's to hellfire as bait for fel reavers?
04:38.47TNSewe couldn't find one >_<
04:39.32NightHawkTheSanenot at all. :P
04:40.12NightHawkTheSanethat sounds almost as much fun as summoning people to the bottom of hyjal
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04:41.57CIA-1403somerset * r47423 10ChanList/ (6 files):
04:41.57CIA-14ChanList
04:41.57CIA-14- initial commit
04:43.29AntiarcWowace got a mention in the latest Game Informer
04:43.41AntiarcAnd BT3, Fubar, Cart, Prat, and Omen got mentioned as highlights :D
04:43.52NightHawkTheSanethats neat
04:44.09NightHawkTheSaneuh, grats on omen? :P
04:44.14Antiarc:D
04:44.27AntiarcGrid got a screenshot too
04:44.32NightHawkTheSaneactually, considering how short a time it's been out, relatively speaking,that is kinda impressive
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04:48.53ckknightwoo, 2/5
04:48.54ckknightI win
04:49.00ckknightbeat that, Antiarc
04:49.04ckknightpshaw
04:49.11Antiarcwell
04:49.14ckknight:-P
04:49.18AntiarcIf you average out project lifetimes / mentions
04:49.19AntiarcI win
04:49.22ckknightlink?
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04:49.26AntiarcMagazine
04:49.29ckknightoh
04:49.34ckknightalright
04:49.53AntiarcOne sec, I'll take a picture
04:51.13CIA-1403ckknight 07ckknight * r47424 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - add fake localization to the enable toggle for addons.
04:53.40ckknighthrm, part of me wants to take the handler part out of LibJokerConfig-1.0
04:53.48ckknightand just always have it be the addon in question.
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04:56.24Funkeh`later
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05:02.42TNSelol.
05:03.25TNSeOmen has some weird bugs
05:03.37TNSelike any shadowfiend always being on top of threat between fights
05:04.37CIA-1403damjau * r47425 10FuBar_ArenaFu/ (3 files): FuBar_ArenaFu - add func to show detail arena team info
05:05.07TNSe"Major Troll's Blood Potion of the Prophet."
05:05.16TNSecan't believe blizz hasn't fixed that bug yet
05:06.47art3miswhat bug?
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05:12.04AntiarcYes, it does
05:12.07AntiarcStill working on it :)
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05:17.47jellywerkerhello all
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05:22.35TNSeart3mis, if you link a 'of the' gear
05:22.47TNSeand then link a recipe, you will see the recipe having 'of the' as well
05:22.49TNSelooks kinda weird :P
05:24.14ckknight[Cock of Your Mom]
05:24.18ckknightsorry, I had to
05:26.02NightHawkTheSaneI cocked your mom.
05:26.33NightHawkTheSane(i'm not sorry, and I didn't have to.)
05:26.35Solehmm
05:26.57Soleso Ive got 3.5 essays to write by tomorow. Wonder if its worth starting anymore.
05:27.08NightHawkTheSane.5?
05:27.14SoleIve done half of 1
05:27.26NightHawkTheSaneSole: finish it, then turn that one in forthe other three as well
05:27.36SoleNightHawkTheSane: thats a plan!
05:28.17NightHawkTheSaneif your teachers ask, tell them it's an exercise in efficiency and optimization algorithms!
05:28.27NightHawkTheSane"General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man!"
05:28.33Solehahaha
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05:32.16TNSekay, so fel reavers are soloable by warriors :/
05:32.58NightHawkTheSaneTNSe: i don't see why not? they don't have special abilities, so once your gear progresses enough *shrug*
05:34.20Mecdemortis there a way to call tostring on a table without calling its __tostring() ?
05:35.00ckknightno, there's sadly no rawtostring
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05:35.14ckknightyou want to get the "table: 0x52346245" thing, right?
05:35.19Mecdemortyes
05:35.27CIA-1403kaelten * r47426 10LibStub/ (LibStub.lua LibStub.toc):
05:35.27CIA-14LibStub: LS-13 LS-15
05:35.27CIA-14- Shifted Error messages to asserts.
05:35.27CIA-14- Supports Revision string minor version numbers in much less code.
05:36.13ckknightKaelten: bah, I still think it should be taken out
05:36.14ckknight:-P
05:36.15ckknightoh well
05:36.44Kaeltenits 1 line now but if we all come to that consensus we can take it out
05:36.57TNSeNightHawkTheSane, indeed. Blocked all the damage, permanent shieldwall >_<
05:37.36Mecdemortckknight: so there's no way to get that?
05:37.49ckknightMecdemort: there is, with this:
05:37.54ckknighthax
05:37.58Mecdemortlol
05:38.17Kaeltenckknight: on the plus side my changes dropped it down to 77 lines with no change in functionality
05:38.31ckknightlocal function rawtostring(t) local mt = getmetatable(t); setmetatable(t, nil); local s = tostring(t); setmetatable(t, mt); return s end
05:38.35fireglowanyone need some en->de translations?
05:38.37Kaeltenand there are still good error messages, you just need a traceback to 100% know what they mean
05:38.39ckknightKaelten: my general point is that the functionality is not required
05:39.02Mecdemortassuming they didnt lock their metatable tho
05:39.10Kaeltenya, I'm not going to lock the ticket
05:39.13Kaeltener close
05:39.24ckknightokay
05:39.30ckknightwell, LS-15 can close, though
05:39.38ckknightjust not LS-13
05:42.48NightHawkTheSane"You know, Harry. It's not that I can't believe you lied to me, again. It's that you LIED TO ME. AGAIN."
05:43.14ckknight?
05:43.22Antiarc\/join #wowace-cia
05:43.25ckknightspoiler alert!
05:43.33ckknightRaptor Jesus kills Harry pg 719
05:44.34CIA-1403antiarc * r47427 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Made a number of fixes, including prioritzation of comm messages which should fix the "disappearing tank" error.
05:44.37CIA-1403ckknight 07ckknight * r47428 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add a check to whether the method exists in the validation.
05:44.43kb1ibtckknight: nice spoiler
05:44.48ckknight:-P
05:44.53CIA-1403kaelten * r47429 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
05:44.53CIA-14LibStub: LS-10
05:44.53CIA-14- Added :IterateLibraries()
05:45.11MecdemortNightHawkTheSane: whats that from?
05:45.16NightHawkTheSanesg-1
05:45.32Mecdemortah on the paradise planet?
05:45.36NightHawkTheSaneyep
05:45.45ckknightKaelten: yays
05:46.34Kaeltencheck out that code and make sure its what you where looking for
05:49.24TNSeAntiarc? How can you fix the issue with shadowfiends never disappearing from the global threat list? :P
05:49.45AntiarcTNSe: It's a problem that needs deeper investigation, but I band-aided it at least
05:50.04AntiarcIt's not a perfect solution, but it's workable while I find the problem
05:50.09AntiarcAnd it solves a number of other problems too
05:50.21TNSewe've been trying omen lately
05:50.36TNSebut the built-in aggro @ 90% thing annoyed a lot of people :P
05:51.02AntiarcThat's configurable, and can be turned off
05:51.09AntiarcOmen menu -> warnings
05:51.34TNSeyeah, I told them, but these are people who are used to installing addons and never touching an option :P
05:52.55TNSetried omen both as shadowpriest and shaman
05:53.01TNSe2 classes that like to live on the edge
05:53.06TNSeand its worked pretty good
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05:53.37AntiarcIt isn't perfect, but at least it's getting better :D
05:55.15TNSeI like it
05:55.32TNSebut there is the issue with multiple mobs named the same
05:55.55TNSeand unfortunately I don't have any good ideas on how to deal with it :P
05:56.02AntiarcThere is no way till 2.4
05:56.24TNSeso blizzard is going to help you?
05:56.42Antiarcyes, they're giving us unique mob IDs
05:56.43NightHawkTheSaneblizzard announced changes to the combat log that would let a mod uniquely identify mobs
05:57.00TNSewow
05:57.12TNSeso I guess blizzard has decided to go with the flow isntead of against the flow
05:57.22TNSewith decursive they went the other way :P
05:57.57CIA-1403kunda * r47430 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: deDE update
05:58.00TNSethen again, so many fights are so threat sensitive that not knowing threat adds a 'random' factor that sometimes is really hard to handle.
05:58.19AntiarcThey basically don't want mods that make decisions for you
05:58.29AntiarcMods that give you info to let you make decisions are fine
05:58.39TNSegreat
05:58.47TNSethats really good news
05:59.01TNSethen threat will be pretty much perfect :D
05:59.15AntiarcWell, good enough for government work anyway :)
05:59.58NightHawkTheSanewell, i believe they also mentioned implementing a built in threat meter in the next expansion, which would probably expose threat values to the client..
06:00.07NightHawkTheSaneso at that point it would be perfect. :P
06:00.13AntiarcI believe it is going to be a green-yellow-red thing
06:00.16AntiarcNothing specific
06:00.29NightHawkTheSanecould be
06:00.33AntiarcThey've said that it won't replace KTM/Omen, but will provide usable threat readings to all raiders
06:01.00TNSeguess thats good
06:01.33TNSeas ele shammy and shadow priest I'm very dependant on accurate threat meters :P
06:02.31TNSeespecially as ele shammy, or my ank goes on cd >_<
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06:05.20CIA-1403antiarc * r47431 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatKLHTMSupport.lua): Threat-1.0: Make non-high-priority messages NORMAL rather than ALERT. Make KTM output ALERT to match Threat's THREAT_UPDATE messages.
06:06.01ckknightso you know, Antiarc, if you send on two different priorities, they may come out of order
06:06.09AntiarcThat's fine
06:06.17AntiarcThreat updates aren't reliant on sequence
06:06.19ckknighte.g. send ALERT, NORMAL, ALERT. receive ALERT, ALERT, NORMAL
06:06.27AntiarcAnd I'm non-prioritizing things like version queries
06:06.29ckknightbut that's relatively obvious :-P
06:06.32ckknightokay
06:06.35AntiarcCombat-time updates are ALERT
06:06.35ckknightgood stuff
06:09.59NightHawkTheSane"I think you suffered enough. Hell, I even got to shoot you." "Twice!"
06:15.13CIA-1403damjau * r47432 10FuBar_ArenaFu/ (FuBar_ArenaFu.toc FuBar_ArenaFuOptions.lua): FuBar_ArenaFu - toc version change, update FuBar_ArenaFuOptions.lua
06:17.19Gngsk[Ammo], ping
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06:52.00[Ammo]Gngsk: pong
06:53.58Gngskhey, I was wondering a few things about the ora zone check
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06:54.13Gngskwhen you refresh, it resorts. would it be possible to have it stay sorted
06:54.27Gngskand an option to filter groups, for instance just groups 1-5 or 1 and 2
06:54.33[Ammo]I did not add sort remembring
06:54.52[Ammo]and filters naah
06:54.53[Ammo]too much
06:54.55Gngskk, I didn't check commit log to see who did what
06:55.02[Ammo]no I mean
06:55.07[Ammo]I added sorting
06:55.11[Ammo]but not remembering of thesort
06:55.15[Ammo]since the window is reused
06:55.20Gngskyeah that's what I meant
06:55.28Gngskit gets annoying having to resort after every refresh
06:56.24[Ammo]yeah well, I could add some form of remembering
06:56.45[Ammo]but that woud be reset if you do another check
06:56.54[Ammo]I'll add it to my todo
06:57.02Gngskawesome, thanks
06:58.26CIA-1403ammo * r47433 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
06:58.26CIA-14LibStub: LS
06:58.26CIA-14- spaces -> tabs
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07:00.25Wobin!c us argent dawn silentfang
07:00.34ThraeBotWobin: Silentfang, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (19/5/37). 9711 HP; 7048 Mana; 112 mana regen; 15 mp5; 5263 Armour; 1446 AP; 210.6 Melee DPS; 17.74% melee crit; 59 melee hit; 1377 RAP; 242 Ranged DPS; 22.74% ranged crit; 59 ranged hit; 16.15% dodge; 15 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +27 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 2641 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2y5mss ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pumgn ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 03:10:21 2007
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07:06.48Fisker-!c eu ravencrest Fiskerdin
07:06.57ThraeBotFisker-: Fiskerdin, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (50/11/0). 7587 HP; 10128 Mana; 251 mana regen; 170 mp5; 11665 Armour; 72.5 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 38 spell crit; 173 +spell dmg; 1596 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5% block;[[ TBR: 2135 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fxwx5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36pvlx ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 03:16:44 2007 ]]
07:07.28Fisker-Thrae you here?
07:07.35CIA-1403nemes * r47434 10NBuffBars/NBuffBars.lua: (log message trimmed)
07:07.35CIA-14NBuffBars:
07:07.35CIA-14- bugfix: position saving after reset
07:07.35CIA-14- bugfix: unit / pet death during combat problems resolved
07:07.35CIA-14- bugfix: entering world / enabling addon during combat
07:07.36CIA-14- bugfix: show proper icon / text on fubar when enabled when not showing solo
07:07.38CIA-14- tune colours more
07:07.46Fisker-wut's this?
07:07.52Fisker-oh
07:07.53Fisker-buffbars
07:07.56Fisker-do not want
07:08.11TNSe<3 chain lightning, 2 hunterbots instagibbed
07:08.16ckknighthe misspelled "colors"
07:08.29TNSehe's just british
07:08.44Fisker-^^
07:08.50CIA-1403nemes * r47435 10NBuffBars/NBuffBars.lua: NBuffBars: turn off debugging
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07:12.51Fisker-my cat is an OH U cat :/
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07:17.01daemoenhey guys, anyone else in here running wow in wine with an ati card?
07:18.44Kaeltengods, I keep staring at libstub
07:18.48KaeltenI'm down to 54 lines
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07:40.58CIA-1403kaelten * r47436 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
07:40.58CIA-14LibStub: LS-14 LS-11 LS-12 LS-13 LS-15
07:40.59CIA-14- Drop of callback support
07:40.59CIA-14- Reworks and tweaks, line count at 50
07:40.59CIA-14- Dropped some of the error messages.
07:40.59CIA-14- Split up internal registry
07:41.48Fisker-:D?
07:41.52Fisker-wuts this?
07:44.13ckknightI do believe it's a sophisticated method of having sex with your mother, Fisker-
07:44.26KaeltenFisker-: LibStub?
07:48.50Fisker-yeah
07:48.57Fisker-i believe you are right ckknight
07:49.14CIA-1403kaelten * r47437 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
07:49.14CIA-14LibStub: LS-
07:49.14CIA-14- changed spaces to tabs
07:49.29KaeltenFisker-: its a versioning stub
07:49.34Kaeltensuper minimalistic
07:49.51Fisker-oh to handle loading and unloading of libraries?
07:50.03ckknightloading and upgrading, mostly
07:50.39orionshock?  how do you unload a lib inside wow, unless your implying that your reloading the ui?
07:51.27ckknightsimple, orionshock
07:51.29ckknightmagic.
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07:51.36Gngskor so it would seem!
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07:51.41orionshocklol, magic indeed
07:51.48Gngskforce gc?
07:54.28ckknightdepends on how the libraries are stored
07:55.29Mecdemortdeath by snu snu!
07:55.35ckknightlol
07:56.12Fisker-SNU SNU!
07:56.13Administratoris there an event that triggers when a player moves/changes coordinates?
07:56.30nevcairielno
07:56.33Mecdemortgreat futurama marathon on
07:56.34nevcairielonly when you change zones
07:56.44ckknightThe spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised!
07:56.48Jazradelthanks, guess i just have to do it OnUpdate
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07:56.59ckknightno, Jazradel, jusr OnUpdate
07:57.00Mecdemortlol
07:57.05Gngsksnu snu ftw
07:57.17cncfanaticsyo all
07:57.20Mecdemorti never thought i'd die like this, but i'd always imagined it!
07:57.56CIA-1403kaelten * r47438 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
07:57.56CIA-14LibStub: LS-
07:57.56CIA-14- Improved error message inside of GetLibrary
07:58.38CIA-1403kaelten * r47439 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
07:58.38CIA-14LibStub: LS-
07:58.38CIA-14- bah damned spaces
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07:59.53cncfanaticslong live Kaelten and his spaces :p
08:00.02Kaeltenlol
08:00.53CIA-1403nemes * r47440 10NBuffBars/NBuffBars.lua: NBuffBars: bugfix: cached changes won't be applied if there were no changes during combat
08:01.46KaeltenI can get it down to 25 lines when I drop all the blank lines and comments
08:03.53cncfanaticsmeh, I can half the amount of code I have if I remove all comments now
08:04.10ckknighthalf isn't a verb
08:04.11Fisker-real programming languages can be cut down to one line
08:04.11Fisker-:P
08:04.18ckknighthalve is
08:04.29CIA-1403nevcairiel * r47441 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
08:04.29CIA-14LibStub: LS-8
08:04.29CIA-14- some indentation and wording changes
08:04.29CIA-14- keep the newline at eof ffs :P
08:07.46CIA-1403bam * r47442 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua:
08:07.46CIA-14ItemPriceTooltip:
08:07.46CIA-14- Updated locale deDE (Farook)
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08:10.48cncfanaticsFisker-
08:10.58cncfanaticsI invite you to convert whole FlexBar2 to a one-liner :)
08:11.13nevcairieljust run an s/\n/;/
08:11.31nevcairielwell ok that would prolly break stuff
08:11.34nevcairielbut you get the idea :P
08:12.23ckknightactually s/\n/ / would work
08:12.34ckknightwhitespaces are all alike in lua
08:12.34CIA-1403phanx * r47443 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealth.lua:
08:12.34CIA-14OnScreenHealth:
08:12.34CIA-14- Fixed non-player ToT names
08:13.05Kaeltenanywho guys I'm going to bed
08:13.11nevcairiel'nite
08:13.12KaeltenI've tortured the poor stub enough for one nice
08:13.14Kaeltener nite
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08:20.09cncfanaticsorionshock, did u test FB again with states ?
08:20.34orionshockive been AFK all day moving shit @ parents house
08:20.56orionshockand as soon as the dataminer for Misry-EU is done i'll log back into wow
08:21.23orionshockits @ 3019 / 4980 in the 3v3 bracket
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08:27.32Mecdemortwhat is the point of the TEXT function and doing TEXT(ACCEPT) when ACCEPT =-= TEXT(ACCEPT)
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08:27.36Mecdemort==*
08:28.32cryogenisnt that a localisation thing?
08:29.40Mecdemorthmm could be
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08:41.42Xinhuan[8/26 16:26:30] <Mecdemort> what is the point of the TEXT function and doing TEXT(ACCEPT) when ACCEPT =-= TEXT(ACCEPT)
08:41.46Xinhuanits for localization
08:41.54Xinhuanand the TEXT function has been deprecated
08:41.59Xinhuanbut its just there
08:42.04Xinhuanin case old addons use it
08:42.14Mecdemortso just use the strings?
08:42.16Xinhuanya
08:42.22Mecdemortthought so
08:42.27Xinhuanyou can find the TEXT() function defined in umm
08:42.58Xinhuantrying to remember
08:42.59Mecdemortmeh dont worry about it
08:43.26Mecdemorti got bigger fish to fry, im making a staticPopupDialog, but the text box and okay button are ontop of eachother
08:43.29XinhuanBasicControls.xml
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08:43.43Xinhuanthe function is defined as
08:43.44Xinhuanfunction TEXT(text)
08:43.45Xinhuanreturn text;
08:43.45Xinhuanend
08:43.48Xinhuanthat's it
08:44.11Xinhuanso no point using it
08:44.47Xinhuanuse one of the existing popupdialogs, copy and modify it
08:46.47cncfanaticshow is the string method called again to replace %s and stuff ?
08:47.05Mecdemort?
08:47.07ckknightcncfanatics: :format
08:47.29cncfanaticsthanks ckknight, I always forget that name
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08:49.49Mecdemortahhhh why does it overlap
08:50.49cncfanatics"it has little or no use in addon programming" lol
08:50.56cncfanaticsabout :format on wowwiki
08:51.04cncfanaticsits fucking usefull for pre-parsing stuff
08:51.14Mecdemorti cant think of 1 addon that doesnt use it
08:51.18Xinhuanprobably a hater wrote that
08:53.38ckknightyea, a hater, most likely
08:53.39ckknightit's extremely useful.
08:54.05cncfanaticsmy text sub engine is starting to take form :)
08:54.14CIA-1403wiebbe * r47444 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.toc: BossWhisperer: - Added saved variables to the ToC to save settings..
08:54.58ckknightI'm watching Real Time S06E01
08:55.05ckknight*sigh* I used to like Tim Robbins
08:55.57Mecdemortwow why doesnt this work with default blizzard values!
08:56.40ckknightwhy doesn't what work?
08:56.56MecdemortStaticPopupDialogs with 1 button and an edit box
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08:57.30Xinhuanwhat are you wanting to get?
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08:57.50Mecdemortjust have it display without overlapping
08:57.52Mecdemortbut i guess ill just move the stuff
08:57.58Xinhuanhow many buttons i mean?
08:58.37Xinhuanyou aren't very clear on what you want
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08:59.23Mecdemorta popup that has an edit box (to put copyable text in) and 1 OKAY button
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09:00.01Xinhuanyou don't want a CANCEL button too?
09:00.28ckknightMecdemort: steal code from Prat.
09:00.35ckknightPrat's url thingy
09:00.36Mecdemortnaw, and thats what im doing right now :D
09:01.24Xinhuanif you dont want a 2nd button, button2 should be nil
09:01.28CIA-1403mikk * r47445 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
09:01.28CIA-14LibStub: LS-15
09:01.28CIA-14- Optimize errorchecking further
09:01.28CIA-14- Optimize initialization a bit more
09:02.00Xinhuanin your staticdialog
09:02.02Xinhuanits that simple
09:02.24Xinhuanand the blizzard code will automatically center button1 and hide button2
09:03.03orionshockquestion to the regulars here, does Nymbia every come on to IRC?
09:03.16Xinhuan~seen Nymbia
09:03.27purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-149-62.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 6m 41s ago, saying: 'rofl'.
09:03.27Mecdemortit centers it nicely, but when you add an EditBox it overlaps the button
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09:03.46orionshockinteresting
09:04.11orionshockpurl - how did u do that?
09:04.23Xinhuanbutton1:SetPoint("TOP", text, "BOTTOM", 0, -8);
09:04.29Xinhuanis the code in blizzard's function
09:04.34CIA-1403ckknight * r47446 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: LibStub - small optimization.
09:04.40Xinhuanthat centers the button1
09:05.06Mecdemortim just unceremoniously ripping Prat's URL apart
09:05.14ckknightnot sure why `not self.libs[major or "nil"]` wasn't just `not self.libs[major]`, seeing as doing the or "nil" accomplishes nothing, really
09:05.23ckknightsince t[nil] == nil
09:06.05Xinhuanthe "nil" is a string
09:06.08Mecdemortsome weird metatable that wants "nil" instead of nil?
09:06.09Xinhuannot the nil value
09:06.32ckknightno metatable, Mecdemort
09:06.37ckknightI know, Xinhuan
09:06.41ckknightthus I said t[nil] == nil
09:06.43ckknightalways
09:06.49ckknight(unless there's a funky __index)
09:06.55Mecdemortdoes self.libs["nil"] exist?
09:06.58Xinhuanbut its not t[nil].. its t["nil"]
09:07.14ckknightit could, but if that were true, the library would be wrong
09:07.18ckknightwell, the stub
09:07.29Xinhuanmaybe he had soemthing in mind for it
09:07.35ckknightno, he didn't.
09:07.41ckknightI'm quite sure of it
09:07.53Nickenyfikenhehehehe
09:08.54Xinhuanself.libs[major] would throw an error if major == nil
09:09.02Xinhuanself.libs[major or "nil"] wouldn't throw an error
09:09.18Xinhuanthat's about the only difference i can think of
09:09.56ckknightwrong, Xinhuan
09:09.56ckknighterrors are not thrown if the key is nil
09:09.56ckknightit just returns nil
09:10.01Xinhuanyou sure?
09:10.02ckknightthis is lua
09:10.14Xinhuani always get nil errors when accessing nil index
09:10.19Xinhuanon tables
09:10.40ckknightbut not from accessing them as nils, you get them from accessing subkeys of the nil, which is bad
09:13.03Xinhuan"local a = {}; local b = nil; a[b] = 5;" --> "table index is nil" error
09:13.18ckknightyes
09:13.26ckknightbecause __newindex doesn't work when the key is nil
09:13.40Nargiddleythats trying to assign to the nil key
09:13.47Xinhuanhmm
09:13.48ckknightbut try "local a = {}; local b = nil; local x = a[b]"
09:13.51ckknightno error.
09:13.51Nargiddley> x = {} print(x[nil])
09:13.51Nargiddleynil
09:13.59Xinhuanok trying that
09:14.07Xinhuanthat's a pretty subtle difference
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09:14.46Xinhuanlearnt something new today :)
09:15.08pb_ee1Heya.
09:15.41pb_ee1Is there ane of the devs of WAU around here?
09:15.46pb_ee1-a+o
09:16.15Xinhuansylvanaar is afk, so i think not
09:18.23pb_ee1Ho, at least i've got the name
09:18.45pb_ee1He should modify the place where the program starts
09:20.04Silviu-What is LibStub ? ;)
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09:21.19pb_ee1Stub... this word reminds me someone
09:21.21pb_ee1:p
09:21.40ckknightI'm reminded of chinese factory workers
09:22.32pb_ee1Chinese factory workers?
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09:22.51ckknightmachines in factories in China have no kill switches
09:23.03ckknightso if somebody gets an arm caught in the machine, there's no way to turn it off
09:23.04pb_ee1Actually it was not you ckknight ;)
09:23.21ckknighttherefore, you then have a stub for an arm
09:23.32pb_ee1lol
09:23.33Mecdemorthmm
09:23.50Mecdemorti want to laugh but i cant bring myself to do it
09:24.23ckknightdon't worry, I can laugh
09:24.28ckknightbut then am sad again
09:24.29cncfanaticsself.TextFields[Field]:SetText(string.format(SubInfo.ParsedText, unpack(SubInfo.SubCache)));
09:24.35ckknightbecause they poison us with lead.
09:24.35cncfanaticslovely line of code that does fucking lots of things :)
09:24.46pb_ee1what's that cncfanatics?
09:24.49ckknightcncfanatics: I prefer using colon syntax for format
09:24.58cncfanaticsckknight, how so ?
09:25.15ckknightSubInfo.ParsedText:format(unpack(SubInfo.SubCache))
09:25.27cncfanaticsah, yea, I usualy do too
09:25.37cncfanaticsshorter and clearer indeed
09:25.46Mecdemortya
09:25.51cncfanaticspb_ee1, SubCache is a sub of results of what text sub functions gave me
09:25.54cncfanaticsI unpack it
09:25.57Mecdemorti just wish you could do "str":format() instead of ("str"):format()
09:26.09cncfanaticsMecdemort, you can ?
09:26.21Mecdemortnot in my world :*(
09:26.24cncfanaticsand each time one changes, it will be formatted again
09:26.41pb_ee1Wow, seems cool, but I don't understand what it is used for ^^ Nevermind, i'll have time to see it in action I suppose
09:26.58cncfanaticstext substitution system pretty much
09:27.07cncfanaticsthats what "refreshes" the text
09:27.57pb_ee1Ho I see
09:28.18pb_ee1Do you have an actual example of what you could do with it?
09:28.36pb_ee1I've got some ideas but I surely miss something
09:29.23cncfanaticsyou have 5 text fields
09:29.49cncfanatics1: TOPLEFT, 2: TOPRIGHT, 3: BOTTOMRIGHT, 4: BOTTOMLEFT, 5: CENTER
09:30.06cncfanaticsif I setted the 5th text field to $(cooldown) or $(cd) (either will do)
09:30.15cncfanaticsthen u'll have a pretty cooldown count on the center of ur button
09:30.33cncfanaticsI'd probably also set $(keybind) on the first field
09:30.38Mecdemortgetglobal is equal to _G[var] right?
09:30.46cncfanaticsand $(itemcount) on the third
09:30.53cncfanaticsand u'd get a nice button with all needed text
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09:32.25pb_ee1impressive, cncfanatics
09:33.09cncfanaticspb_ee1; just a recode of the old fb text sub system, in better
09:33.37pb_ee1is the fb text system used bu quartz?
09:33.42pb_ee1</bu/by
09:33.46cncfanaticsnot that I know of
09:34.03Laricis the ace2 refactor branch usable as 'plugin-replacement' of ace2? or is it not binary compatible?
09:34.18cncfanaticspb_ee1, what kind of subs does quartz use ?
09:34.46pb_ee1I'll wait until an addon using subcache is release, because I still don't get it entirely ;p
09:35.37cncfanaticspb_ee1, dogtags ?
09:35.41cncfanaticsexcept its more advanced
09:35.43pb_ee1Ha ok, now i understand. No, I don't know what kind of subs is using quartz
09:35.47pb_ee1is used by *
09:35.59pb_ee1yeah, dogtag is a good example i suppose
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09:46.02CIA-1403somerset * r47447 10ChanList/ChanList.lua:
09:46.02CIA-14ChanList
09:46.02CIA-14- fixed loading WhoLib
09:47.45CIA-1403somerset * r47448 10ChanList/ChanList.lua:
09:47.45CIA-14ChanList
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09:59.56orionshockis there an eazy way of getting the right click menu of a given note in cartographer?
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10:04.36pb_ee1why does this produces an error? --> self:AddMsgToTable(t, { 'msg' = " " } )
10:04.47pb_ee1AddMsgToTable is a valid function
10:04.56orionshockof?
10:05.08pb_ee1'}' expected near '='
10:05.22nevcairielit has to be msg = "" or ['msg'] = ""
10:05.45pb_ee1well i'd like to pass a table to AddMsgToTable
10:06.16nevcairielself:AddMsgToTable(t, { msg = " " } )
10:06.24nevcairieljust remove the quotes
10:06.29pb_ee1ho ok found it
10:06.40pb_ee1it should be { ['msg'] = "" }
10:06.43pb_ee1thanks nevcairiel
10:08.52SoleI have read the above problem and I concur
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10:14.22yoshimoi just wondered, why threat isn't updated evry 2 minutes anymore :)
10:14.35Arrowmasteranti got a real job
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10:21.11Fisker-lets get him fired by sending nudes of Antiar1 to his boss
10:21.14Fisker--1+c
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10:29.03Arrowmasterthat would be ammusing since hes working for himself now
10:31.10Nickenyfikenlol
10:35.25Mecdemorthmm is there any ctrl-breaking wow?
10:38.51Mecdemorti did a bad bad thing
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11:16.26Mecdemorti sware closures still mystify me
11:17.49Nargiddleywhat about them ?
11:18.24Mecdemortwell i've got this one, but if it's called twice then the first one behaves like the 2nd one too
11:18.59Nargiddleyis the function keyword executed in both ?
11:19.21Mecdemort?
11:19.34Nargiddleypastey the code
11:21.02Mecdemorthttp://ace.pastey.net/72762
11:22.34Nargiddleythey both act like they have the same arg1 ?
11:22.54Mecdemortya the 2 tablets open but when i try to close either it tries to close just the 2nd one
11:23.12Mecdemorttho actually with the current setup i pastied, arg1 is nil
11:23.13Nargiddleywhen the function keyword gets executed
11:23.20Nargiddleyit creates the closure
11:23.49Nargiddleyand any variables visible at that point and referenced by the function become part of the closure
11:24.01Nargiddleyis arg1 the global that bliz sets ?
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11:24.26Mecdemortno im trying to pass it in since a closure of just the values didnt seem to be working
11:24.41Nargiddleyok
11:24.48Nargiddleyis that tstr
11:24.52Mecdemortyes
11:25.04Mecdemortthats the dummy name im passing to the tablet register
11:25.33Nargiddleyi can't tell whats happening from that code :/
11:26.03Mecdemortya im just going to make a local function outside and just pass it in and use the argN values you can pass
11:28.32Mecdemortah i think the second function should just be function() in that pastey
11:29.13Nargiddleyhm
11:29.52Mecdemortthink i got it
11:30.13Mecdemortor not
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11:31.53Mecdemorti dont get it
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11:37.36Nargiddleyif you want to pastey more of the code i can try to spot whats going wrong
11:38.23Mecdemortsure
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11:41.49Fisker-btw
11:41.58Fisker-wasn't there some people modifying and improving grid unofficially?
11:43.32DiaoO:
11:44.08Mecdemorthttp://ace.pastey.net/72764
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11:45.02Mecdemorthmm maybe opening requires the same sort of thing as closing, i might have to schedule an event and try that
11:45.10swayenvoyHello ther
11:45.18swayenvoy+e
11:45.20Nargiddleyfor a start local tstr
11:45.46swayenvoyAnyone can give me a short guide to dewdrop
11:46.08Mecdemortgahhhhhhh
11:46.33Nargiddleylooking at it thats the prob :P
11:46.40Mecdemortwow
11:47.06swayenvoyI want to build a classical dropdown field and insert text values to it
11:47.23Mecdemorttime to go find that tweak that warns when you accidentally introduce a global
11:47.32swayenvoyand don't know how to get started with dewdrop
11:47.53Mecdemortswayenvoy: you're best bet is to check an addon that uses FubarPlugin and see how it does the right-click menu
11:48.10Nargiddleyalot of those will just be aceoptions tables
11:48.58swayenvoyso i want do display a list of items in it which i get via the loot api
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11:49.13swayenvoyI should fill this items to a aceoptions table
11:49.14Mecdemortin anycase do you think its better to make a closure or use a function like i currently have?
11:50.24Nargiddleyi generally avoid closures unless needed
11:50.34Mecdemortya i thought so
11:50.54Mecdemortthey're fun, but nag at me when they're in for loops
11:50.59Nargiddleyif its going to be run once, its not worth changing tho
11:52.12Mecdemortonce per every time you look at something new
11:54.47swayenvoydon't see how the rightclick menu of a fubarplugin may help me to build something like the dropdowns in the characterframe
11:55.17Mecdemortright click of fubar is all dewdrops
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11:56.15swayenvoyah k
11:56.23swayenvoymay have a look at this
11:57.20swayenvoymaybe it's easyer to build the dropdown with api?
11:57.54Mecdemorthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/DewdropLib
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12:03.00Mecdemortwhere's Tablet-2.0 hiding on the svn?
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12:03.52Nargiddleyhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/
12:04.06Mecdemortah TabletLib
12:08.59Mecdemortwhat's the standard for which to put in OptionalDeps and X-Embeds?
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12:09.30nevcairielonly Ace2 should be optional deps
12:09.36nevcairieleverything else X-Embeds
12:10.23Mecdemortwould i put TabletLib or Tablet-2.0
12:10.36orionshocktbh, doing that IMHO is kinda broke
12:10.46Nargiddleyhow so ?
12:11.02orionshockyour addon cannot function with out the libs included
12:11.10nevcairielso?
12:11.21orionshockso if they are not included they are in fact dependancys
12:11.22NargiddleyAceLibrary will load them if they exist standalone, the dep isnt needed
12:11.42nevcairielbut we can only have one .toc
12:11.52nevcairielwhich is designed for embeded mode
12:12.06orionshockbut because they are often included, it's imho better to say they are optional dependancys
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12:12.35Nargiddleythat forces them to load before the addon, not at time of first use
12:12.51orionshocktrue, but is that really a problem?
12:13.08Nargiddleyit can be for some of the large database libs
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12:13.21orionshockin the grand scheme of things is that an issue, it's gona get loaded one way or the other
12:14.08Nargiddleywhy force them to load if its not needed, AceLibrary takes care of loading libs if they exist standalone
12:14.13nevcairielbut it could potentally cut down login time
12:14.15MecdemortSUCCESS
12:14.19nevcairielwhich is a bonus :P
12:14.45orionshockok so if im hearing this right, its the differnce of being rough with the program vs white glove effect?
12:15.20orionshockif that's what ur saying it's a bad argument
12:15.39Borked|Raideranyone fast at math? lets say a boss have 3k armor after all debuffs. what dmg increase % will 500 less armor mean?
12:16.18Nargiddleyorionshock, what is the advantage of setting them as an OptDep ?
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12:16.56orionshockeasier to resolve, granted by hand, what libs are needed when doing premade packages
12:17.05Nargiddleyno its not
12:17.25Nargiddleycause an OptDep might not be a lib, it might be a genuine Optional Dependency
12:17.32nevcairielyou can check the X-Embeds if you really need to know that
12:17.48orionshockeasier to determine what libs to enable in the load screen as they are listed on the tool tip ; trust me my argument for it is equaly as bad if not worse
12:18.00nevcairielyou dont need to enable any libs
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12:18.04Nargiddleyyou dont need to enable libs, AceLibrary takes care of it
12:18.04nevcairielAceLibrary will do that for you
12:18.33orionshockright...
12:19.45orionshockmy main point was that the given addon is infact dysfunctional and incomplete with out the libs, embedded or not ; technicly they would belong added as an Opt Dep
12:20.04nevcairielthey are not Optional
12:20.07Nargiddleyits not an Optional Dependency
12:20.12nevcairieltechnically you need 2 .tocs
12:20.15nevcairielone for running Embed
12:20.17nevcairielone for not
12:20.22nevcairielbut since we cannot do that
12:20.24orionshockya i know - i get the circular reasoning
12:20.27nevcairielwe only provide the Embed one
12:20.35nevcairieland let AceLib take care of the rest
12:21.27orionshocki guess what im trying to say is that while i aggree it's not a Optional Dep, one should not rely on AceLib (as another addon) to manage the loading of libs ; tho i don't think blizard intended addons to get as complicated as they have become
12:22.06Nargiddleywell that is what AceLib is there for, to manage libs
12:24.13orionshocki guess ive missed the entire disscussion arround embeds.xml
12:26.19dreamss2orion i asked the same
12:26.23dreamss2i hate embed libs
12:26.32dreamss2defeats the point of using libs :P
12:26.55Nargiddleywhich is why embeds.xml exists
12:27.18orionshockthe duality of AceLibs makes them technicality opt dep's; due to the popular distribution method we have the a nice little paradox of are they optional / required / included
12:27.27Nargiddleyso its 1 place to remove the embedded refs
12:27.55nevcairielembeded libs dont defeat the purpose of libs
12:28.06Nargiddleythey arent optional, they're either included or required deps
12:28.09nevcairielany unused copy is wiped from memory by the garbage collecter
12:28.16nevcairielonly downside, a bit more loading time
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12:29.17dreamss2nevcairiel, why the hell do i need 3-7 copies of the same lib
12:29.31nevcairielyou dont
12:29.33Nargiddleydreamss2, you dont
12:29.39orionshockwitch brings me back to an origional statement " i don't think blizzard intended addons to become complicated as Ace2 framework has presented
12:29.42nevcairielbut it doesnt really hurt either
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12:29.45Nargiddleybut it simplifies distribution
12:29.55dreamss2not to mention i had the slight problem of having an embed lib that was a diff name that the new ver
12:30.02dreamss2not fun trying to track it down
12:30.18Nargiddleyif you can deal with libs yourself you dont need to use them, its a choice
12:30.32orionshock10+ ace2 libs means you proly wana switch to disembeded
12:30.36Wobin!c us argent dawn kadamist
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12:30.50ThraeBotWobin: Kadamist, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (0/31/30). 7170 HP; 5533 Mana; 102 mana regen; 14 mp5; 4645 Armour; 1456 AP; 197.3 Melee DPS; 21.09% melee crit; 58 melee hit; 1590 RAP; 245.8 Ranged DPS; 26.09% ranged crit; 58 ranged hit; 15.2% dodge; 10 fire resist; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 2413 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2em2th ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dggzk ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 08:40:39 2007
12:31.27dreamss2then u gotta manually find out what libs u need since they dont show in the tooltip under addons
12:31.48nevcairieldisembed was mainly designed for developers
12:31.53nevcairieland later to save bandwidth
12:31.54orionshockWAU man
12:32.04dreamss2its no big deal, just not a fan of it
12:32.17dreamss2WAU dosent show deps
12:32.23Nargiddleyand wau does it for you, embeds.xml was created so it can disembed automatically easily
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12:34.44orionshock!c us crushridge atradies
12:34.52ThraeBotorionshock: Atradies, Level 70 Tauren Druid (5/48/8). 9192 HP; 4970 Mana; 113 mana regen; 4355 Armour; 95.7 Melee DPS; 7.24% melee crit; 4 melee hit; 18 +heal; 163 defense; 16.14% dodge; 56 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1358 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/269j3f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nw4n2 ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 08:44:41 2007 ]]
12:35.34orionshockcute bot there Thrae
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12:45.35CIA-1403mecdemort * r47450 10TableInspector/ (. Core.lua Libs/ TableInspector.toc embeds.xml):
12:45.35CIA-14TableInspector: - Initial commit.
12:45.35CIA-14- Inspect tables in a Tablet setting.
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12:59.38Mecdemorthmm what to do now
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12:59.54orionshockhelp me bloat my addon :D
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13:00.04Mecdemortbloat: it's what's for diner
13:00.10orionshocklol
13:00.23Mecdemortwhat addon
13:00.25orionshockit's a small bloated addon called ReportAFK, it's in the branches atm
13:00.54orionshockspeaking of witch..
13:00.59orionshocki have a new commit to make
13:06.02CIA-1403kunda * r47451 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: .Babble-Inventory-2.2: deDE fix & fixed name in comments (line 2)
13:08.08orionshockwhen doing commits it has a dir named "." in the list, should i be including it in the commit?
13:08.35CIA-1403orionshock 07orionshock * r47452 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/ReportAFK.lua:
13:08.35CIA-14Fubar_ReportAFK
13:08.35CIA-14-Now has option to set report limit
13:08.35CIA-14-added externals
13:08.35CIA-14-Praying it works still
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13:10.08clad|awayorionshock: why bother when its coming in 2.2 anyway?
13:10.28orionshockum, well that's actualy what it's using
13:11.03clad|awayoh okay, makes sense now :P
13:11.03orionshockwhen 2.2 comes out i'll switch arround like 3 commented out sections and fwabam, it does that
13:11.23orionshockfor the moment it's just bloated with extra junk like fubar stuff for looks, it really could be shaved down to 1 function and a macro to call it
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13:16.10orionshockbtw what is the next patch? 2.2 or 2.3?
13:20.15clad|away2.2 is the next patch, and when it gets patched :P
13:20.56Fisker-isn't "." just current dir?
13:22.03orionshockyes . is current dir,
13:22.11clad|awayyes
13:22.12orionshocki did set externals, that would do it i think
13:22.24orionshockbut it errored on me with the middle finger
13:27.47Mecdemortwhat is 2.2 changing that affects that addon?
13:28.02orionshocknew API
13:28.12orionshock<PROTECTED>
13:28.28Mecdemortah
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13:33.18pb_ee1Hum... how can I trigger a "fake" Blizzard event?
13:33.19CIA-1403orionshock 07orionshock * r47453 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/:
13:33.20CIA-14Fubar_ReportAFK
13:33.20CIA-14-one more try at externals
13:33.38pb_ee1AceEvent doc: "This should never be called to simulate fake Blizzard events."
13:33.50pb_ee1Is there a way to do that?
13:34.12Mecdemortya trying to find it
13:34.16orionshock& there you go, it worked :D
13:34.52orionshockworks wonders when you blow something up and start from scratch on some computers
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13:36.31orionshockclad - i take it your the infamous Cladhaire?
13:36.53pb_ee1He is.
13:37.04clad|awaylol, i suppose :P
13:37.08clad|awayi'm infamous O.o?
13:37.15orionshock<3 the mod clique, i would not be able to play this game with out it
13:37.29Mecdemorthmm maybe not
13:37.45clad|awaythats awesome :P
13:37.55orionshock:D
13:38.16orionshock& with that good night newYork it is 6am here and im off to sleep
13:38.27Mecdemortsleep is for the weak
13:40.05pb_ee1clad|away, d'ya know how to trigger a fake blizzard event by any chance?
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13:40.40clad|awaypb_ee1: you should never ever under any circumstance need to do that
13:40.52pb_ee1I actually need to do this
13:41.03nevcairielwhy?
13:41.23clad|awaythere's _never_ a reason to do that
13:41.27clad|awayyou can easily cause a race condition
13:41.31clad|awayand other bad things
13:41.36Mecdemortomg blizzard is racist!?
13:41.37pb_ee1ok let me explain
13:41.40clad|awaycan you explain why?
13:41.45pb_ee1i'm coding chatlog atm
13:41.48clad|awayMecdemort: they clearly hate gnomes.
13:41.54Mecdemortah, quite right
13:42.02Mecdemortand those smelly dwarves
13:42.17pb_ee1it saves the chat with _exactly_ the same arguments than blizzard when it gets the events (CHAT_MSG_WHISPER, ...)
13:42.29clad|awayokay
13:42.31pb_ee1what i want to do is easy: restore the chats in the chatframe at login
13:42.45nevcairieluse AddMessage
13:42.50pb_ee1No.
13:43.00nevcairielor directly call the event handler of the chatlog
13:43.03Mecdemorti dont get it
13:43.03clad|awayyep
13:43.12clad|awayyou cannot and should not be firing a blizzard event.
13:43.16pb_ee1the event handler of the chatlog?
13:43.18clad|awayyes,
13:43.22clad|awayif you need to be hacky
13:43.26clad|awayand that will just call addmessage
13:43.33clad|awayso you can just addmessage yourself, or call the event handler.
13:43.51pb_ee1Actually i'd like to simulate a CHAT_MSG_GUILD for example
13:43.53pb_ee1why?
13:44.01pb_ee1cause it is the _ONLY_ way to be sure that the chats will be correctly printed the way the user wants it
13:44.06nevcairielusing eventhandler will atleast involve any hooks
13:44.17clad|awaythen you will use the event handler
13:44.25pb_ee1if the user has prat, using a fake CHAT_MSG_GUILD will display it the way prat should
13:44.32clad|awayyou cannot do what you want to do, there is no way to fire events.
13:44.35pb_ee1so the event handler is a correct solution?
13:44.38clad|awayand there shoudl not be
13:44.39clad|awayyes
13:44.50clad|awaynot to be debbie downer, but L
13:44.51clad|away:P
13:44.53pb_ee1humm and how do I do that? :p
13:45.16clad|awayfind the event handlers for each event type
13:45.20clad|awayand call them directly, with the arguments.
13:45.33nevcairielits basicly all ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler
13:46.06pb_ee1http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_chat_frames_to_modify_or_suppress_messages
13:46.08pb_ee1cool :p
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13:46.45pb_ee1so instead of triggering a fake blizzard event, i should trigger the hook?
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13:49.52Laricdo you get CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_JOIN before PEW?
13:49.54clad|awayyou're not hooking anything
13:49.56clad|awayyou call the function
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13:50.51pb_ee1well i'll have to hook it anyway but that's not a problem :p
13:51.02pb_ee1i'll give it a try now, thanks for the info ;)
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13:52.42Laricsi there a wiki page on event order on login?
13:52.48Laricis even
13:52.57pb_ee1yes
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13:53.11pb_ee1just type "events" in the search box and you should get it
13:54.14kebinusanhttp://inventorspot.com/articles/worlds_tallest_building_be_talle_6398 neat
13:54.24clad|awayLaric: if there are any questions, load up DevTools, and run /dtevents
13:54.32clad|awayyou'll get a full listing of events in chronological order
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13:55.23Laricah thanks clad
13:55.34clad|awayI use that all the time
13:58.04CIA-1403cwdg * r47455 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: add Sapphiron new zhCN local.
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13:59.08vithosbah, buffalo2 no longer available other than by svn sucks :(
13:59.34cncfanaticsyo all
13:59.52vithosmorning
14:00.13Fisker-well Buffalo2 is buggy too
14:00.16Fisker-but giev story
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14:01.39CIA-1403cwdg * r47456 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: update zhCN local
14:02.00vithos14:14 <+CIA-2> nimbal * r47404 Buffalo2/: Buffalo2: Deleting trunk version, moved to branches so people know it's not usable. Should've done this a long time ago.
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14:02.43vithosi mean yeah, it's buggy.  but lots of people use it anyway i imagine.  a warning in the description would have been fine i think
14:03.33CIA-1403cwdg * r47457 10Capping/locals/localization-zhCN.lua:
14:03.33CIA-14Capping
14:03.33CIA-14- update zhCN local
14:04.19baer_for all german speaking guys:
14:04.27vithos#wowace-cia wins for reviewing commits i missed while sleeping/etc
14:04.29baer_http://www.mein-netz-geht-nicht.de/heirat.jpg
14:04.53baer_just happened to my priest, while farming ores. :-D
14:05.28CyrezThat's why I made the channel... Can catch up on days of commits in minutes. :)
14:06.32CyrezZOMG, new record!!!12
14:06.36Cyrez38 users.
14:06.38CyrezW00t.
14:08.05CyrezOnly downside is that any normal user that's in there can't change their nick.
14:08.19Mecdemortit wouldnt let be go afk while in there
14:08.37Kuja^changing nicks is for pussies anyway *hides*
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14:10.41Mecdemortanyone really bored want to go check out TableInspector and give me some thoughts
14:11.43Cyrez39, yay!
14:13.10CIA-1403zealotonastick * r47458 10GetOffGetGoing/ (GetOffGetGoing.lua GetOffGetGoing.toc): GetOffGetGoing - Added Skyguard flightmasters gossip skip/dismount.
14:13.31CIA-1403solor * r47459 10TauntWarn/TauntWarn.lua:
14:13.31CIA-14TauntWarn:
14:13.31CIA-14- lets make warning red
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14:23.39cncfanaticscould someone rate some code for me ? efficiency wise
14:23.46Mecdemortsure
14:23.48cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72770
14:23.53cncfanaticsits a text substitution engine
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14:27.15cncfanaticsMecdemort, what u think? or still reading?
14:27.25Mecdemortstill reading
14:27.55cncfanaticskay
14:28.15PferdOneHi, i've a problem with an addon i like to write...is there any possiblity to check the faction (Alliance/Horde) of a player just by passing its name? Cause i just found these Unit...-Functions which need eather targets of mine or in my party
14:28.53cncfanaticsPferdOne, if the player is targetted, u can find it out
14:28.56cncfanaticseasely
14:29.03Mecdemortmouseover works too i think
14:29.06PferdOneyeah but it isnt
14:29.08cncfanaticsif u need it with just a name and ur unsure wether the player is nearby or not, just /who it
14:29.14Mecdemortbut if its opposite faction, i dont think you can
14:29.15cncfanaticsif u find a who entry, he's ur faction
14:29.25cncfanaticsif u dont find one, he's opposite faction
14:29.37PferdOneyeah but who can't do this in BGs
14:29.57cncfanaticsu can who a BG player
14:30.18cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
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14:31.54PferdOnehmm
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14:33.27Mecdemorthmm how often is your TextSubs.ButtonMixin:Activate called
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14:34.19cncfanaticsonce for each button, to create the frames
14:35.54PferdOnewell it seems like SendWho isnt the way to go cause on wowwiki it says -> SendWho appears to always return nil.
14:35.59cncfanaticsMecdemort, what u think of the code ?
14:36.14cncfanaticsPferdOne, u need to wait for a who reply
14:36.17cncfanaticsI'd suggest using wholib
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14:36.34PferdOnehmm ok
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14:36.47Mecdemortlooks fine as far as i can tell
14:37.44Mr_Rabies2hrm, is there a way to search within individual threads on the wowace forums? looking through 50 pages for the thing i want to check out isn't my idea of fun :x
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14:38.18Mecdemortdoesnt look like it
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14:43.58GrumWHOOO! Minimap drawing working .. jsut some clipping crap left O.o
14:45.18Fisker-:O?
14:45.32Fisker-whatcha doing?
14:46.25GrumStill working on Cartographer_Routes (drawing routes on the map and showing them on your minimap
14:46.31Grumso you can lazy-herb/mine :P
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14:48.34cncfanaticsthats fucking uber
14:50.13|Stan|if you implement auto-walking, it is :P
14:50.45Mecdemortthey banned that a long time ago
14:51.38Mr_Rabies2i miss /goto x,y and /gotocorpse in cosmos back in the day
14:52.30Grummeh
14:52.50Grumi have some 'rounding' problems suck
14:53.01Grumoh well ...
14:58.48CIA-1403poull * r47460 10PallyPower/ (4 files):
14:58.48CIA-14PallyPower:
14:58.48CIA-14- Added Normal Blessings
14:58.48CIA-14- Fixed number of tabs many places
14:59.05Grumyay fixed :)
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15:06.54xyu<PROTECTED>
15:06.56xyulol
15:07.25nevcairielsince copy protections include rootkits
15:07.28nevcairiel:P
15:07.38xyuon demos?
15:07.59nevcairielsure, good reason to stuff it in the demo, just to get the rootkit over
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15:09.29CyrezAside from the fact that I don't have BioShock, I don't use Explorer, lol.
15:09.39CyrezBlackBox FTW.
15:09.48GrumBlackBox?
15:09.54Fisker-well it's not really a rootkit
15:10.05Grumif you didn't ask for it .. it is
15:10.06Fisker-and the demo didn't install what people believed to be a rootkit
15:10.23Grum'goodshit' then ;D
15:10.25Fisker-I didn't ask for your opinion hence you are a rootkit?
15:10.33Fisker-no that's not exactly how it works
15:10.56Fisker-the only thing they're doing is embedding their files with characters that Windows doesn't support
15:11.01Cyrezhttp://www.bb4win.org/news.php
15:11.05Fisker-windows as in the app not as in the kernel
15:11.05Grumah well .. lets say installing software which monitors other software and is designed to be 'hard to remove' .. oh well :)
15:11.11Fisker-regedit, explorer etc.
15:11.32Fisker-A rootkit is an application that Windows doesn't know is there
15:11.39Fisker-api-wise
15:11.47Cyrezexplorer.exe isn't even running right now, lol.
15:11.58Grumresult is the same Fisker- :)
15:12.26Fisker-not entirely
15:12.26Grumthe windows api can not handle it .. therefor you can consider it malicious :)
15:12.35Fisker-Securom can be removed, rootkits "cannot"
15:12.39Grum(or you can say the OS sucks hairy-donkey-balls ofc :P)
15:12.56CyrezRootkits can be removed if they're not running.
15:13.03Fisker-hence ""
15:13.10Fisker-the windows api can handle it, but the programs built in cannot
15:14.16CyrezI'm glad to be using an alternative shell.
15:14.24evlHoho
15:14.24CyrezAny of you heard of Poison Ivy?
15:14.28evlI'm so looking forward to my mac
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15:15.29CyrezI accidentally made myself immune to it, lol.
15:16.38Fisker-_
15:16.39Fisker-?
15:17.07nevcairielmost of the copy protections manage to break some part of your system .. they are teh evil
15:17.25CyrezPoison Ivy is a remote access tool that's considered a trojan.
15:18.02Fisker-definitely
15:18.24Fisker-just saying that per the definition SecuROM can't be considered a rootkit
15:18.29Fisker-even though it's damn close to it
15:18.36CyrezThis girl I know got it from an ex-BF and before I helped her get rid of it I did something with it on a virtual machine, but I found out that if explorer.exe isn't running, it can't open a connection.
15:19.21CyrezSo it was rendered inert. ^^
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15:23.21Yssarilanybody here that can help me our with dewdrop? is there anyway i can change the location of where it swans from a parent? (right now the tables TOPRIGHT is aligned with the parents TOPLEFT i want want it to be TOPLEFT and BOTTOM LEFT
15:25.17Elkanowhat would you guys recommend as arena ddon to watch your enemy?
15:25.37Yssarilpersonnaly like gladiator (with tattle disabled)
15:28.27Garounok, is thre any way to tell the newest wowaceupdater NOT to phone home to check for an update?
15:28.35GarounI just started using Proximo
15:28.55xyuthere was one that showed rating info. updated more regularly than tattle imo.  but i forget what it is called
15:28.59xyusomething scpvp or something like that
15:29.21Garounsspvp has been abandoned
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15:29.29Garounand caused me quite a few errors
15:30.44GarounElkano: any chance of adding another parameter for the bars in EBBs so you can force all connected groups to the right instead of center?
15:30.50Yssariltattle has just brougth me headeaches lol it tried to tell me i was playing on an invalid server /sigh
15:31.48GarounI ask becaus I made my tench and buffs 120wide and wanted to lead debuff 150 wide, but having the 120 wide centered under debuffs that it's connected to looks bad :(
15:32.03ElkanoGaroun, in case they have similar width it will center-anchor; if one is smaller than the other it will anchor based on the place where you droped the group
15:32.19Elkanojust try to align the corners
15:32.22Garounk, I'll break and try putting it back on
15:32.32Garounthe one thing I didn't try ;)
15:33.06Elkano:)
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15:33.27Elkanoyou can also hack the SVs, there is stored where to anchor
15:33.40Garounk
15:34.05GarounI noticed you had removed the original EBB from the svn so I figured it was time to fix the new one to work like I prefer
15:34.14Elkanoin your case there should be an empty string, so replace "" by "RIGHT" for anchorside I think
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15:34.32YssarilElk do you have any idea how to change the location dewdrop spawns the menu from a parent?
15:36.38ElkanoYssaril, did you look at itsapi on wiki if it's still there?
15:36.56Yssarildoesn't show anything about positioning it
15:37.18Yssarilbasically jsut tells me how i can add/remove things in 5 different ways
15:37.52ElkanoYssaril, it was on "register and open argument" :/
15:38.20Yssarilthat part seams to be afk lol
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15:39.43CyrezBooya, new record!
15:40.07GarounElkano, yep I'm gonna have to manually change the SV
15:40.45Garounit always snaps to center no matter where I drag it to snap on the debuff bar
15:40.54ElkanoYssaril, you'll most likely end up asking ck
15:41.17GarounI have Bar 1(160) -> Bar 2(150 -> Bar 3(150
15:41.38Garoun2 and 3 line up right, bar 2 lines up centered to bar 1
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15:41.45Yssarilkk the Google cache of the old site seams to be missing to but the one for tablet still exists so i will try to use thoses functions (seam to very similar from what i have been seeing)
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15:43.30Elkanowell, 10px difference may be to small to make it snapp to the edge
15:43.43ElkanoI should change that code to use the smallest one
15:44.33Garounactually with them set to 160 130 130 it still centers as well
15:44.40Garounoh wait
15:44.42Garounthere it goes
15:45.35Garounlooks like +30 ish is the cut off
15:46.20Fisker-1+1 = Elkano
15:46.48Garounyeah, 30 was your drop off hehe
15:46.51Elkanowell it's +25
15:46.55Garounah ok
15:46.59Chompersand 1 / 0 = fisker?
15:47.27Elkanoit first checks center then left and last right. if one of these points is <=25 from the other it anchors.
15:47.28Fisker-yes
15:47.40ElkanoI'll change it to use the smallest of the three
15:47.46Garounthat makes sense :)
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15:48.42CIA-14ElkBuffBars
15:48.42CIA-14- changed group anchoring to use the smallest distance
15:48.50Elkanoshould(TM) be working
15:49.50Fisker-scrap EBBs and help nimbal on buffalo2
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15:55.20what-Khi all
15:55.33Elkanohmm... I should update my tooltip script to the new armory location...
15:55.50Yssarilwoot the tablet functions anchoring works in dewdrop :)
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15:56.06what-Ki have a problem with bosswhisperer sine a few days i get an error from this addon at startup
15:56.15what-Kcan someone help me please
15:57.36Shirik~asktoask
15:57.45purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
15:57.55Punkie`~botsnack
15:57.55purlaw, gee, Punkie`
15:58.27Shirikwhat's the error?
15:58.50Shirikand stupid questions out of the way, are you sure it's up to date?
15:59.45what-Kyes
15:59.53what-Ki have update it with wow updater
16:00.11what-Kmom i start wow again to post the error
16:00.23GarounThanks for the update Elkano
16:00.45Elkanoyou're wellcome :)
16:01.51what-KShirik ok i have another question i have see now that it now gives 2 bosswhisperer which one must i use for the german client ?
16:02.09nevcairielthe normal one
16:02.16nevcairielBossWhisperer2 was a mistake :P
16:02.53what-Kok can i post the error here ß
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16:03.12what-KDate: 2007-08-26 18:02:34ID: 9Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ..\AddOns\BossWhisperer\BossWhisperer.lua line 31: AceLocale(BOSSWHISPERER): Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not.Debug: [C]: ? [C]: error() ...face\AddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:100: error() ...ddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua:223: RegisterTranslations() BossWhisperer\BossWhis
16:03.21what-Kthis is the error
16:03.58[ls]ZoNoob question: How do i split stacks with Baggins?
16:04.08Fisker-Look mr. B it's an angel
16:04.08Yssariljsut like you always do
16:04.19Fisker-I can see from the light in his belly and having seen quite a few angels in my time
16:04.42[ls]ZoYssaril: i get an error, saying i can't split those items
16:05.02Elkano[ls]Zo: make sure it's not set to show merged stacks and then split as you usualy would with shift-click
16:05.22Yssarilhmmmm try turning of compression maybe its already split but simply shows up as one
16:05.38[ls]Zoalready turned off compression
16:05.38vithos[ls]Zo: alt+right click
16:05.39[ls]Zohm
16:06.01[ls]Zothat worked
16:06.02[ls]Zothanks
16:06.55what-Kgives at the addon bosswhisperer a command to open the options ?
16:07.14[ls]ZoShift click worked on some items, but not marks of illidari
16:07.38vithos[ls]Zo: just use the alt+rightclick menu's split function
16:07.43[ls]Zoyeah
16:08.06what-KShirik can u see the error ?
16:08.58[ls]Zothanks for the help!
16:10.06what-Knevcairiel can u help me ?
16:10.22PferdOneAnyone know how can i pass a variable from an addon to use it in a macro?
16:10.58Tinyboomis there some of the pitbull modules that has to be enabled, tried to disable some of them and as soon as i log in wow crashes with "memory could not be read"....
16:11.23nevcairielwhat-K: guess some translater made some mistake then.
16:11.50yoshimoit be a good thing if the chatlog didn't record messages that are already filtered out by spamsentry and shutup
16:12.01yoshimo*chatlog addon
16:12.06what-Kcan u help me to fix it maybe ?
16:12.19CIA-1403ennuilg * r47462 10scorchio/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
16:12.19CIA-14scorchio:
16:12.19CIA-14- Readded PaintChips-2.0. In the right place.
16:12.19CIA-14- Scorchio! now checks your talents for 3/3 Imp Scorch.
16:12.19CIA-14- Added AutoBlackList option.
16:12.19CIA-14- Mob deaths are now sync'd.
16:12.41Yssarilyikes i jsut realized that i have been commiting with an empty embed.xml file
16:14.15PferdOneis there no way to pass a variable from an addon so i can use it in a macro, for example i want to pass a variable that contains "Hello!" and i want to /say variableHello ?!
16:15.22Yssarildont think it would work wiht /say but if you have a global variable with a string it should be possible give me a sec
16:16.13PferdOnethx, Yssaril
16:16.29Yssarilif you want to /say it this should do the trick "/script SendChatMessage(randomvargoeshere)
16:17.01PferdOnethx alot
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16:19.21AmadeoSo WAU has an installer now, eh?
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16:21.25what-Knevcairiel can u maybe say what i must edit ?
16:23.54GarounI find it funny Blizz didn't have AlwaysUpFrame1 tied to WolrdStateAlwaysUpFrame
16:24.06Saint-Nwau 2 has always had an installer
16:24.18Saint-Nit just doesnt work as pretty as one would think
16:24.22GarounWSAUF is it's parent but it's not set to be relative for some reason
16:24.28Saint-Nsince technically extract to folder should be good enough
16:24.36DottedAmadeo months old :p
16:24.47AmadeoWell, where does it even install to? :P
16:25.11Saint-Na magical place mwith fairies and unicorns
16:25.20Saint-Nor where ever you tell it to ;)
16:25.32AmadeoWAU's always done some weird stuff
16:25.44GarounI just want the ability to turn off auto-phone home for updates :P
16:25.59what-Kwhy will no one help me :(
16:26.19Saint-Ncuz you havent asked a feasible question?
16:26.44Saint-Nor we're jerks, your choice
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16:31.58what-Ki try to fix the error from the addon bosswhisperer
16:32.14what-Kthis is the error
16:32.15what-KDate: 2007-08-26 18:02:34ID: 9Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ..\AddOns\BossWhisperer\BossWhisperer.lua line 31: AceLocale(BOSSWHISPERER): Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not.Debug: [C]: ? [C]: error() ...face\AddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:100: error() ...ddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua:223: RegisterTranslations() BossWhisperer\BossWhis
16:32.46what-Kbut i dont know much about wow scripting so iss my question what i can do to fix the error
16:32.56PferdOnewell i think it's a noob question, but how do i print in a different color? or even bold?
16:34.39what-KSaint-N can u help me ?
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16:35.54AmadeoSo why does WAU install itself to such a weird ass place?
16:36.41Mr_Rabies2i'm not too sure i like the concept of 'installing' it anyway
16:36.42Mr_Rabies2:x
16:36.48Mr_Rabies2i like just extracting to a folder :[
16:36.51AmadeoMe too
16:37.04AmadeoThis is where it installs it on my PC
16:37.07AmadeoC:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Apps\2.0\NWW05VGQ.MJA\4VEQMBR9.MT7\wowa..tion_d76ccab02584da8d_0001.0009_93913cadef99e279
16:37.11Amadeowtf is that about?
16:37.28harl|WoWthere already have been some discussion about that
16:37.29Elkano.net I think
16:37.33harl|WoWyes
16:37.45AmadeoI've used .NET apps that install in Program Files like the rest
16:37.48harl|WoWand there's a channel named #wau
16:38.38harl|WoWyea
16:39.25AmadeoI dunno, it's just really weird...it makes lots of data folders in Documents and Settings also
16:39.30Punkie`Amadeo: I've seen both
16:39.38Punkie`do you install it via the OneClick stuff?
16:39.52AmadeoI've done it both ways, it doesn't ask you where to put it
16:40.13Punkie`well I've seen the above location used more than program files for .net
16:40.29harl|WoWyea. it creates about 14 folders. and when it updates itself it starts from another one than before. such things kind of bug me.
16:40.37Vegeta]BT[is there a way to tell the program where to install ?
16:41.25harl|WoWVegeta]BT[: you can just extract the files from the zip (then rename them) or just copy the files from that overly long .net directory to any other, but WAU won't update on itself anymore then.
16:41.56AmadeoI'm a big fan of not having to install anything, and just extracting it to where I want :)
16:42.02harl|WoWAmadeo: me too
16:42.37Amadeobut I see the need to have an installer since WAU is becoming such a popular app
16:43.11harl|WoWi've got a programs directory on a separate hard disk, so it's much easier to take all my programs with me or just reinstall the system and not having to install crap
16:43.58harl|WoWincluding portableapps ediitions of firefox and thunderbird (for an instance)
16:44.00Vegeta]BT[ah now i get it, so when i leave it where it is, it will update itself, when launching, this is a great option yes ^^ But it would be nice if you could choose the intallpath. I don't like it when a program is installed anywhere and the user does not get to know where.
16:44.26harl|WoWyep
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16:45.13AmadeoNow, I know you can let WAU get libs for you instead of grabbing externals with everything...but my question is, if you uninstall an addon via WAU, will it remove any unused libs that it once got for those addons?
16:45.15harl|WoWthat was exactly my point which i have already stated in #wau yesterday
16:45.19what-Kcan some one help me with this error or not :( ?
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16:45.48harl|WoWi can live with .net if that's what it takes, but i'd at least want to choose the directory
16:47.10Vegeta]BT["what-K": what error, is just started reading so far ^^
16:47.16what-Ksry :D
16:47.19what-Ki post it
16:47.25what-KDate: 2007-08-26 18:02:34ID: 9Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ..\AddOns\BossWhisperer\BossWhisperer.lua line 31: AceLocale(BOSSWHISPERER): Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not.Debug: [C]: ? [C]: error() ...face\AddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:100: error() ...ddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua:223: RegisterTranslations() BossWhisperer\BossWhis
16:47.36what-Kthats the error at startup from wow
16:47.45what-Kthe addon iss BossWhisperer
16:47.48harl|WoWmy WoW resides in "m:\games\wow\" and former WAU versions (up to 1.9.42) went to "m:\games\wow\wau\". i'd wish that i could "install" WAU into that directory so it can update itself into its own single(!) directory.
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16:49.15Vegeta]BT[it seems that this is a language problem betwee the addon language file and the wow client language
16:49.15what-KVegeta]BT[ u have read the error ?
16:49.20Vegeta]BT[yes
16:49.23what-Kok
16:49.36what-Kmaybe u have an idea
16:50.07Vegeta]BT[did you try to update the acelocale Lib ?
16:51.03pb_ee1What is the exact equivalent of DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME?
16:51.11harl|WoWwhat-K: it kind of looks to me like the translation to your locale (de) is incomplete or erroneous or something.
16:51.52what-Kno i was in holiday a week
16:52.06what-Ki have start the wau and he updates
16:52.15what-Ki have no idea what i must do
16:54.21Vegeta]BT[try to update your addons with wau, and then load wow again
16:54.43what-Khave i
16:54.49what-Ksame error again
16:54.54harl|WoWespecially update BossWhisperer and AtlasLoot, since those two add-ons are being mentioned in the error message
16:55.18Saint-Ndid you do a full shutdown and restart of wow?
16:55.18what-Ki have update all my addons
16:55.23what-Kyes
16:55.24Saint-Nor did you just update and /rl?
16:55.34Vegeta]BT[hmm
16:55.39what-Kno i have quit wow and start again
16:56.08harl|WoWyou may try installing !!!StandaloneLibraries and Ace2 and having WAU update all add-ons without externals
16:56.21what-K["Purge"] = "Purge whispers",
16:56.27what-Kthis is line 31 in the addon
16:57.40harl|WoWsomething is amiss with the translation strings or their values being passed from one function to another
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16:58.26harl|WoWif you update all add-ons and they all support the same mechanisms and use the correct strings, this should work
16:58.58what-Kharl|WoW i have now install standalone und ace2 and i get the same error agian
16:59.02what-K*again
17:00.12Saint-Nwhat-k: do you choose install with externals or no?
17:00.22what-Ki have try both
17:00.28Saint-Ndid you fully remove?
17:00.43what-Kyes
17:00.52Saint-Nthen it just hates you ;)
17:01.07Saint-Npesky danes ;P
17:01.35Saint-Ni would suggest trying again... delete the bosswhisper folder
17:01.42Saint-Nand then download it again WITH externals
17:01.57Saint-Nand tick the button in wau that says "automatically download dependancies"
17:02.03Saint-Nor whatever it actually reads
17:02.46harl|WoWwhat's the difference between BossWhisperer and BossWhisperer2 anyway
17:03.38Saint-Nthere's 2?
17:03.45Saint-Ngenerally the 2 denotes that it uses ace2
17:04.35Punkie`no
17:04.37Punkie`2 was a mistake
17:04.43Punkie`and was merged into 1
17:05.15harl|WoWso.. 2 could be removed as well
17:05.30Punkie`you should only have BossWhisperer installed
17:09.14Punkie`i'd never use it anyway
17:09.14Punkie`i hate people with addons like that
17:09.27what-KSaint-N ok i try it
17:10.01what-KSaint-N can u say me wht is better when i update with or without or simply f12 ?
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17:12.53Yssarilanyone know a tutorial on how to use dewdrop?
17:12.54CIA-1403cwdg * r47463 10FlexBar2/Libs/: FlexBar2: del libs
17:16.06vithosanybody use nSideBar?  it sounds interesting but i can't figure out how to use it
17:16.42Saint-Nwhat-K: i'd say it's a lib error so do it with externals
17:16.57harl|WoWuhm.. hasn't
17:17.30harl|WoWi'm not schizophrenic. i think.
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17:17.41vithosnorganna: hi2u
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17:22.23what-Kso
17:22.43what-KSaint-N i have install all my addons new with externals and i have the same error again
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17:27.28Saint-Nwhat-K: do you care much about your present layout? like would it be a HUGE inconveince to redo?
17:27.47what-Kno
17:27.55Saint-Nthe only other option for you that may correct it is to delete yer saved variables in the wtf folder
17:28.09what-Khehe
17:28.17what-Ki have detete this too :;D
17:28.22what-Ki have made all new
17:28.55Saint-Nhrm then i guess yher screwed until ckk shows up and has an idear what it is
17:29.11harl|WoWhm. i haven't tried using AtlasLoot and BossWhisperer atst yet.
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17:32.36kebinusanhttp://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/05/chuck._wow.jpg
17:33.08mikmaperfect
17:33.34what-Kharl|WoW and ??
17:33.39what-Kohh sry
17:33.45what-Kmiss understood
17:34.48CIA-1403cwdg * r47464 10FlexBar2/libs/:
17:34.48CIA-14FlexBar2: back libs.
17:34.48CIA-14sorry very much..
17:35.36harl|WoWlol. that's good.
17:40.54harl|WoWwhat-K: done now. i'm not getting an error when BossWhisperer isn't loaded. and the cause of this is of course (as i suspected) that BossWhisperer's translation is incomplete.
17:41.03pb_ee1Ok, i'm gonna make a beta release of ChatLog 2.5. The new feature is: restores the chats *in your chat frames* at login
17:41.18harl|WoW"true" is not a valid value for non-base locales
17:41.20what-Kharl|WoW hmm and how can i fix it ?
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17:41.51pb_ee1It is smart: it will display in each of your chatframes the messages that you want to have in those.
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17:45.03harl|WoWwhat-K: indem du es fertig übersetzt / by completing the translation (i.e. replacing all translation values of "true" with their correct translations. that is: anything between lines 31 and 50 in BossWhisperer.lua)
17:45.35what-Ksach blos ich brech mir hier ein eng ab und du kannst deuzsch :P
17:46.27harl|WoW(what-K: kann ich, aber der channel ist englisch.)
17:46.34what-Kich weiss
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17:47.40what-Kok now i try to translate from 31-50
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17:48.55what-Kharl|WoW have u edit at u ?
17:49.22what-Kbecause i dont know what i all must trans but there is so much "true" :D
17:50.28harl|WoWi've not used BossWhisperer yet so no translation either.
17:50.59harl|WoWbut i may as well just try translating them and paste them somewhere
17:51.20what-Ki dont know what i must edit
17:51.26what-Kthere is so much true
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17:51.51harl|WoWevery "true" there has to become an actual string.
17:52.27harl|WoWlike ["Player Limit"] = true, has to become ["Player Limit"] = "Spielerbegrenzung", .. or whatever
17:52.53what-Kyes but at the top there are true too at the english lang
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17:53.54harl|WoWenglish is the "base locale" (as stated in the error message), so these don't need any translation
17:54.04what-Kok
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17:55.56what-Kwhat is the german for Suppress Outbound ?
17:57.33Grumis there any elegant way to add one element to an array just for the scope of that function?
17:57.35harl|WoWuhm..
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17:58.12ulichmm, make a local of it, then pop the new element on the end?
17:58.36Grumbecause something like: a = {1,2,3}; function test() local a_copy = a; table.insert(a_copy, 4) end still 'edits' a :\
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17:59.20harl|WoWwhat-K: i'm not sure what it does, but it sounds like "Ausgehende Nachrichten unterbinden" or something ?
17:59.41Grum'yay for being bloody verbose' :D
18:00.22Chaotic_Ddoes it take longer to prepare to fire an arrow than it does to fire a gun? despite the cooldown on my ranged attack being done, it takes me like a good second or two to get that arrow off. it's hard to predict when I'm actually supposed to stop moving based on the cooldown.
18:00.57Grummeh seems i can only do it with unpack O.o .. not so nice sigh
18:01.25ulicChaotic_D: I don't think so, rogues throwing weapons are the same way
18:01.39what-Kharl|WoW ok i think im ready can u say me phere i can post it now ?
18:02.22what-Kmaybe u can look over my crap eng :P
18:02.25Chaotic_Dis there an addon that keeps track of how long it takes you to fire? I just can't figure it out. maybe I have to subtract that to the cooldown time to determine when to stop moving.
18:03.14ulicI don't know of one, why don't you just go fire 50 times and then you'll remember about how long it takes
18:03.29harl|WoWwhat-K: you can create an entry at http://ace.pastey.net if you like (it's in the topic as well)
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18:04.20CIA-1403nevcairiel * r47465 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
18:04.20CIA-14LibStub: LS-8
18:04.20CIA-14- removed 2 leftover spaces
18:04.20CIA-14- some comment wording changes
18:05.05what-Khttp://ace.pastey.net/72777
18:05.15what-Kharl|WoW can u overview it please
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18:08.15harl|WoWwhat-K: you should encase all strings with quotation marks: "bla bla bla" (instead of: bla bla bla)
18:11.35BankZI wish SCL colored names by class
18:12.01kenlyricwe remember.
18:12.04Adysis there any way to display pvp flags on aguf on self, target, party and if possible raid group?
18:12.13harl|WoWwhat-K: i don't know the difference between "Player Limit" and "Maximum number of players to store messages for." - but i think your translation of the latter doesn't quite fit and that it should be something like "Maximale Anzahl der Spieler, für die Nachrichten gespeichert werden",
18:12.16NightHawkTheSaneo_0 I think some marketing guy needs to be shot. http://www.trekstor.de/en/products/detail_mp3.php?pid=74
18:15.01harl|WoWwhat-K: and using umlauts without saving a file with the correct header (utf8, i guess) leads to the umlauts not being displayed in-game. there a page somehwere on http://wowwiki.com listing the codes for special characters (like umlauts).
18:15.25Chaotic_Dwell the problem is from the client side, you can't actually tell how long it takes to fire, because of lag.
18:15.57Chaotic_Dalso it's hard to time miliseconds manually.
18:16.14harl|WoWwhat-K: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Localize_an_AddOn#Accents.2C_Special_Chars_and_Umlauts
18:16.16Chaotic_Dlike if it were 1.5 seconds or 0.75 seconds.
18:17.06Chaotic_Dgod damn I wish search engines weren't so crappy. "world of warcraft" "rate of fire" and I get a forum topic about Rainbow Six. -_-;
18:17.10what-Kharl|WoW danke/thx
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18:20.38BankZIs there anyway to get trinkets to show in Autobar?
18:21.48Chaotic_Doh wait... the speed on the weapon is how long it takes to fire in seconds, isn't it?
18:22.12Chaotic_Dhow did I overlook that? -_-;
18:22.52Chaotic_Dthere should be an addon that automatically shows at what point of your ranged cooldown minus your currently equipped weapon speed.
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18:25.29ckknighthey all
18:26.00Mounickyo!
18:26.55Chaotic_Dhi.
18:31.46AmadeoThat has to be one of the most hilarious things that's happened to me in PvP
18:32.07AmadeoI'm escorting A-Me, and I tend to get ganked right by the end each time...well, this time was no exception
18:32.33charonChaotic_D: Quartz has a "Swing Timer" which works nicely for melee. don't know about ranged because i don't play a class with ranged weapons, but you could try that
18:32.55kergoththe swing timer shows autoshot too, works nicely
18:33.00AmadeoSome 52 Warrior starts attacking me while A-Me is aggroing every mob around, so I stun the warrior, do a /brb and go kill the mob, he catches up again, I'm doing /wait, he's still attacking..finally get A-Me to the quest NPC, and end up killing him anyway :P
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18:34.45sag_ich_nicht[20:17] <Chaotic_D> god damn I wish search engines weren't so crappy. "world of warcraft" "rate of fire" and I get a forum topic about Rainbow Six. -_-; <--it is not the searchmachine who is crappy, it is you who is not capable of using the right syntax
18:34.54sag_ich_nichtor, to put it in a different way: lern2google, nub
18:35.02what-Kharl|WoW now it works fine :D
18:35.52what-Kharl|WoW http://ace.pastey.net/72778
18:36.07what-Kthats not the best it will work so :D
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18:37.38BankZWhy in HELL would "rate of fire" bring up results for Rainbow Six
18:37.46harl|WoWwhat-K: yep
18:37.47BankZthats F'ed up!
18:38.30sag_ich_nichtBankZ because someone has his WoW chars in his sig, and is talking about rate of fire of a weapon in rainbow six
18:38.40TNSenerf pandemic :(
18:38.45sag_ich_nichtand the chars in his sig have some "world of warcraft" in front of it
18:38.46TNSedwarf mace stun > all :(
18:38.47sag_ich_nichtso
18:38.56sag_ich_nichtyou add autoshot
18:39.01sag_ich_nichtto the seachquery
18:39.04sag_ich_nichtor swingtimer
18:39.09sag_ich_nichtand get proper results!
18:41.23NightHawkTheSaneTNSe: what does being a dwarf have to do with it?
18:41.41harl|WoWwhat-K: i translated some as well. just for fun, i guess. .. http://ace.pastey.net/72779
18:42.12BankZsag_ich_nicht: I was joking.  
18:42.42what-Kthx thats iss nice :D
18:42.44BankZsag_ich_nicht: and for the search string he used, "World of Warcraft" would not have to be anywhere
18:43.05TNSedwarf? bleed removal, poison removal?
18:43.49NightHawkTheSaneBankZ: er, I think, if it was google, they AND your search terms by default, so it would have to be there, but maybe not in any useful context.
18:44.53BankZNightHawkTheSane: nope, they OR it
18:45.18NightHawkTheSaneBankZ: *shrug* okay, i havn't bothered checking in some time :P
18:45.53sag_ich_nichtBankZ nope
18:45.57sag_ich_nichtgoogle ANDs them
18:45.59sag_ich_nichtdoes not OR them.
18:46.29BankZnot true, but ok
18:46.52BankZit will give some preference if more phrases are there
18:46.54NightHawkTheSanehmm.. "
18:46.55NightHawkTheSaneThe "AND" operator is unnecessary -- we include all search terms by default."
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18:48.29harl|WoWyea
18:48.35harl|WoWi really hate google for that one
18:48.45harl|WoWand some other things as well
18:49.30sag_ich_nichtwell, you CAN use NOT by adding - in front of the term, and force them to use something by using + in front of it
18:50.21ZiconPfeh. AND by default is the only way to go. OR is available for when you need it.
18:50.22harl|WoWgoogle removes plurals and stuff like that too and that sucks
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18:50.56sag_ich_nicht[20:50] <harl|WoW> google removes plurals and stuff like that too and that sucks <--just add a + in front of the term
18:50.57sag_ich_nichtgeez
18:51.14harl|WoWdoesn't always work, dude
18:51.24sag_ich_nicht+"term"
18:51.27sag_ich_nichtalways works.
18:51.27Arrowmasterthen quote it
18:51.34sag_ich_nichtquote it and add a + in front of it
18:51.35sag_ich_nichtgeez
18:51.43Fisker-google just sucks :(
18:51.43harl|WoWgeez geez
18:51.46harl|WoWyea
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18:58.08Pkekyo!c eu bloodfeather aalskii
18:58.16HjalteHmm. Why is my recount using 82 mb while i am soloing with my voidwalker? >.<
18:58.16ThraeBotPkekyo: Aalskii, Level 70 Undead Rogue (17/3/41). 6974 HP; 968 AP; 201.4 Melee DPS; 14.3% melee crit; 47 melee hit; 16.06% dodge; 37 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2780 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq4pak ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32jaz2 ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 15:08:07 2007 ]]
18:58.55Pkekyodamn, that's sad...his account got hacked, blizz won't give him back the gear he had, so he's all green now
18:59.10JoshBorkeHjalte: when was the last time you emptied all saved fights?
18:59.28HjalteJoshBorke.. Uh.. What's that? :P
18:59.45JoshBorkeHjalte: reset all data
19:00.33Hjalte"Reset data" ?
19:00.37Awaa[2007/08/26 20:59:05-263-x1]: SmartRes-4.0\SmartRes.lua:578: Usage: UnitIsUnit("unit", "otherUnit")
19:02.07JoshBorkeHjalte: there's a button on the recount window that lets you erase all saved data
19:02.36HjalteJoshBorke, yeah, that's the one i found. It seems that fixed it, thanks.
19:02.45JoshBorkehjalte:  np
19:04.29vithosPkekyo: that guy needs to learn to equip gear imo
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19:04.53CIA-14LibStub: LS-8
19:04.53CIA-14- improved readability of the GetLibrary func
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19:06.13evlWhat about LibStud?
19:06.25Pkekyovithos: I'd rather say he needs to learn not to get hacked :>
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19:07.04vithosBankZ: it does AND them, not OR.  you're probably thinking that it's searching the text of the page, which is wrong.  you're searching the link text of pages that link to the page
19:07.48vithosintext:blah operator does that
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19:15.28HjalteDoes anyone know if it is possible to show my pets incoming damage in Parrot?
19:16.03cncfanaticshow to round a number to its closest integrer value ?
19:16.11cncfanaticsmath.int exists ?
19:16.36CIA-1403ckknight * r47467 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: LibStub - changed the error statements slightly.
19:16.49ckknightcncfanatics: math.floor
19:16.57ckknightcncfanatics: you can do math.floor(x + 0.5)
19:17.00cncfanaticsmath.floor(number +0.5)
19:17.07cncfanaticsheh, exactly my thought ckknight :)
19:17.07ckknightto get asymmetric rounding
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19:19.50cncfanaticshow to get only the decimal part of a number ?
19:19.56cncfanatics(or only the non decimal part)
19:20.17cncfanaticsx - math.floor(x) would do I supose ?
19:20.20ckknightyea
19:20.40cncfanaticsmeh, I think i'm doing way too complicated for my cd numbers, but i'll show it when i'm done
19:20.56nymbiacncfanatics: number % 1 would do it too
19:21.26ckknightyea, nymbia's'd be best
19:21.53cncfanatics% is modulo ?
19:22.17nymbiayeah
19:22.46cncfanaticswait, i'll first write my code the way I thought of it
19:24.42cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72780 decent cooldown layout func ?
19:25.56cncfanaticsanyone an oppinion :)
19:26.29ckknightding, 49
19:26.53cncfanaticsgz :p
19:26.56cncfanaticsnow read my func xD :p
19:27.33ulicckknight: you accidently leveled while testing code? :P
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19:28.39cncfanaticsanyone read me pastey and tell me if my code is nice & efficient enough to be called often ? (every 0.3 sec)
19:28.39ckknightyea, it happens
19:29.28ckknightulic: mostly, I stay in  heavy-populated area and kill things that come to me
19:29.30ckknight...while coding
19:29.56Xinhuanthat wouldn't be really "accidental" ;p
19:30.22cncfanaticsXinhuan, mind doing something for me :p
19:30.28Xinhuanwhat?
19:30.41AmadeoI just saw a 38 Rogue with the same weapons I'm using at 52, is that bad? :P
19:30.50cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72780 can you read this and tell me if it could be called every 0.3 sec multiple times (once for each button)
19:31.03Xinhuanno it just means you're lazy
19:31.14Xinhuanwait let me finish this quest, 3 min
19:31.20AmadeoI don't know where to get good upgrades
19:31.32cncfanaticsquests, instances ?
19:31.34Xinhuanask friends, guild, etc
19:31.41NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: meh, don't worry about gear until 65+ :P
19:31.44Xinhuanuse "Find an Upgrade" option on the armory (lol)
19:31.53NightHawkTheSaneas long as your killing things, it's all good
19:32.27AmadeoThat's the problem, it's getting tough :P
19:32.38NightHawkTheSaneuh, AH? :P
19:32.44AmadeoI've been checking!
19:33.11AmadeoI've been trying to just get to 58 so I can go to Outlands
19:34.45cncfanaticsmeh, i'm bored of horde zones
19:34.47cncfanaticstime to roll some ally char
19:34.52cncfanaticsanyone recommend me a server ?
19:34.55cncfanaticsneed a change of pace to relax some
19:35.06Xinhuanok looking
19:36.02cncfanaticssupose its called, 60 times every 0.3 seconds
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19:36.38cncfanaticshmmm, you miss the :GetActionCooldown function, lemme pastey it too
19:37.14cncfanaticsXinhuan, can you reload ? I added the GetActionCooldown func at the bottom
19:37.30cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72781 new url meh wouldnt let me overwrite
19:37.37Xinhuanok
19:38.21evlWTB Aloft-Light
19:38.23evl600KiB
19:38.30CIA-1403poull * r47468 10SmartRes/SmartRes.lua: SmartRes: Seems like UnitClass updates a bit slow so color text red if class is unknown.
19:43.01Xinhuancncfanatics: is your buttons using any of the default 120 actionslots ids?
19:43.26cncfanaticsXinhuan, no
19:44.21Xinhuanhmm much of that code can be shortened
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19:45.15cncfanaticswhat one ?
19:47.28Xinhuanhmm i'll modify it heh
19:48.11cncfanaticsheh, great :)
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20:05.53cncfanaticsXinhuan, got anything ? :p I might logout (or get logged out) soon
20:06.01Xinhuanjust pasted a reply i think
20:06.17NightHawkTheSanehaha http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/011454.html
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20:06.53Xinhuani didn't change the :GetActionCooldown() part since that isn't really changable
20:07.05NightHawkTheSaneAlso,this is beautiful.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffcarlson/127632129/
20:07.24Xinhuanyou'll also want to cache a copy of FlexBar2:GetModule("ItemCache")
20:07.28Xinhuani think
20:07.38Xinhuanand have a local copy of "floor"
20:07.48Xinhuanin file scope
20:08.11cncfanaticsTimeLeft < 0 should be <= 0 no ?
20:08.17Xinhuanbasically, just removed heaps of unneccessary checks in the IF brackets
20:08.23Xinhuanwell yeah, change that to <= if you want
20:08.32Xinhuanbut its unneccessary to check both upper/lower bounds
20:08.44Xinhuanin a IF-elseif-elseif-elseif-else statement
20:08.44cncfanaticswell, if i'd want 0 to show nothing instead of 0
20:09.00Xinhuanbecause you only need to check each boundary once
20:09.05Xinhuani.e, 0, 60, 600
20:09.31cncfanaticshow fast is :GetAttribute btw ?
20:09.37cncfanaticsits gonna get called a LOT from this func
20:09.39Xinhuanpretty slow
20:09.43cncfanaticsmeh
20:09.44cncfanaticsbad idea then
20:09.49Xinhuanfirst its a function call
20:09.57Xinhuansecond, it adds the string you pass it
20:10.00Xinhuanto create a new string
20:10.08Xinhuanthen gets the attribute of that new string
20:10.13Xinhuanand returns it
20:10.16cncfanatics:GetModifiedAttribute is even worse then
20:10.29cncfanaticsuse the ACTIONBAR_COOLDOWN_START event maybe to call it, then cache that result
20:10.44cncfanaticsand keep reusing it, so to not call it too often
20:11.33Xinhuanby the way
20:11.34Xinhuanfunction SecureButton_GetAttribute(frame, name)
20:11.35Xinhuanreturn SecureButton_GetModifiedAttribute(frame, name, nil, "", "");
20:11.35Xinhuanend
20:11.39Xinhuanthat's the function declared
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20:11.50Xinhuani.e getting a normal attribute just calls getmodifiedattribute ;p
20:12.27cncfanaticsheh, silly
20:12.35Xinhuanlook in securetemplates.lua for details
20:12.35cncfanaticsI do use :GetAttribute on the frame directly though
20:12.47cncfanaticsthis is my :GetModifiedAttribute function
20:13.07cncfanaticshttp://cnc.pastey.net/72783
20:13.11Xinhuanbut there's not much you can do about it
20:13.16Xinhuanso, prob dont' worry about it
20:13.18cncfanaticswell, you can NOT use the secure functions ?
20:13.31cncfanaticscalling :GetAttribute on the frame should not call GetModifiedAttribute again
20:13.37Xinhuanwell how are you going to get the attributes ?
20:13.37cncfanaticslike I do in my func
20:13.42cncfanaticscheck my func
20:14.34Xinhuancould work
20:15.28cncfanaticsit does :p
20:15.32cncfanaticsusing it for everything and it works fine
20:15.39Xinhuantry entering combat and stuff
20:15.53cncfanatics:GetAttribute is not limited in combat at all
20:15.55cncfanatics:SetAttribute is
20:16.07Xinhuanyes, hence i thought it would work
20:16.32cncfanaticsI do love that function heh
20:16.35cncfanaticsdoes all my hard work :p
20:16.46cncfanaticsand handles alt-shift-ctrl clicking marvelously
20:18.15Xinhuani merely removed a lot of checks and locals from your function, not much else
20:18.16cncfanaticsnow, i'm gonna go play some windows game, rebooting windows, g'night everyone
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20:20.36CIA-1403poull * r47469 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua:
20:20.36CIA-14PallyPower:
20:20.36CIA-14- Converted rank info from other players to numbers also so they can be compared when dragging people for normal blessings.
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20:24.35SaranaAnyone here having the problem with Baggins_ItemRack where the rules were showing up as ItemRack not loaded? I just uploaded a possible fix, but since I haven't seen the problem myself I'm not certain it fixes it.
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20:27.01ulicI think they just fixed that
20:27.10uliclike seconds before you connected.
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20:45.45Hjaltecan anyone recommend me an alternative to Chronometer? Would like to try something else out, been using Chronometer for so long.
20:48.24Funkeh`Quartz?
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20:56.05NeeblerHjalte: classtimers
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21:01.28Industrialckknight: ping
21:01.38ckknightpong
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21:01.46HjalteFunkeh`, Quartz can't collect its timers in one place, can it?
21:02.03Funkeh`It only has 1 anchor
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21:02.19HjalteAnd can that anchor be positioned anywhere?
21:02.20Funkeh`1 anchor for target and 1 anchor for focus
21:02.26Funkeh`Yeah.
21:02.39Industrialckknight: doesnt pitbull have layouts?
21:02.48ckknightyea
21:03.06Industrialthen why is there a whole menu for choosing the location of an icon? doesnt that go in the layout?
21:04.10IndustrialI remember you saying that pitbull was going to be a very fast and light unitframe mod
21:05.01Punkie`well its a little faster than discord UF
21:05.01Industrialwith everything turned off i didnt want its still 5.7MB big :P
21:05.23ckknightthat's a bit much
21:05.28Gnarfozstill not caring about static sizes...
21:05.32Industrialdouble if i enable everything
21:05.40ckknightfor me, with a whole bunch of stuff, it's 1.5 MiB
21:05.51Industrial(wich was default)
21:06.06ckknightnot everything's enabled by default.
21:06.14IndustrialGnarfoz: well as a developer i cant stop thinking about the underlying code size for it all :P
21:06.25Punkie`oUF is 55KiB and does the same thing that I want from pitbull :P
21:06.37Gnarfozthe code certainly is not 5megs big oO
21:06.43JoshBorkeoUF is CRAP!
21:07.21IndustrialGnarfoz: im talking memory usage, not space disk
21:07.30Punkie`disk space?
21:07.34Industrialer, yes
21:07.36Industriallol
21:07.45Gnarfozspace disks incoming, whooo
21:08.12Gnarfoz:D
21:08.12JoshBorkestatic memory usage still doesn't matter that much
21:08.12JoshBorkewhat's more important is cpu usage and garbage generation
21:08.27IndustrialI know, but why have a whole menu (+ code and system for figuring it out) for where to place one tiny icon that switched on and off
21:08.31HjalteFunkeh`, can the quartz bars stay on the screen even if you change target?
21:08.37Punkie`pitbull grows by 1MiB per hour if you are in a raid though :P
21:08.39Industrialinstead of one static SetPoint in a layout file?
21:08.40JoshBorkeHjalte: no
21:09.01Funkeh`Hjalte: no
21:10.42ckknightPunkie`: that's not too bad, really
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21:10.48Punkie`well it is
21:10.52ckknight1 MiB/hour isn't too extravagant
21:11.01Punkie`considering oUF and perfect raid do not grow anywhere near that much
21:11.11Punkie`1 hour = 10KiB give or take
21:11.12Punkie`total
21:11.36ckknightclearly, PitBull should just force a GC every 10 minutes to keep people like you from making noises
21:11.53Punkie`no, that would be ridiculous
21:12.05ckknightI know.
21:12.36Industrialwhats the idea behind it? encapsulating technology with userfriendlier menu's so the majority doesnt have to learn how to make a layout for themselves (wich is really lazy)?
21:13.08Industrialthe downsize is very unpretty addons (imho)
21:13.12Industrialside
21:13.14Diaodo mighty rage potions
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21:13.17Diaoshare a cd with health pots
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21:13.49Xinhuanyes
21:14.00Diao:(
21:14.20ckknightunlike you, Industrial, I don't believe my users have to learn lua to get the addon to do what they watn
21:14.54ckknightwant*
21:15.47Industrialthen, what is the purpose of layouts in pitbull?
21:16.18ckknightto lay things out the way people want
21:16.26ckknightmove icons in different places, etc.
21:16.31ckknightbecause not everyone has the same taste
21:16.32ulicIndustrial: you can design it in game then save it out.
21:16.35Industrialthen, why are there also menus to move those individual pieces?
21:16.41Yssarilckknight: are you gonna eventually add the Register & Open Arguments page to the dewdrop wiki again?
21:16.49ckknight*shrug*
21:17.27ckknightYssaril: what I'll likely do is redo it for Joker and document in the code with Autodoc
21:17.35Industrial2 words, feature creep. And that is unpretty.
21:18.12ckknight*shrug* it's modular, turn off the things you don't want
21:18.26Gnarfozthe conclusion as to why you don't understand it, has already been said in the last 5 minutes
21:18.29Gnarfoz>_<
21:19.15Ominousckknight: how is Joker coming on btw?
21:19.19ckknightquite well
21:19.29ckknightall the major pieces are in place, it just needs some tweaking
21:19.33Industrial"its modular" is not an excuse, and doesnt apply to what I was talking about. if I disable the module the icon will be gone forever, but I'm talking about the functionality of placing it somewhere around the unitframe.
21:19.37ckknightand I'm gonna incorporate LibStub into it once that API has been frozen
21:19.59Ominouswhat is LibStub?
21:20.32ckknightOminous: a cross-community minimalistic library versioning system
21:21.00Ominoushmm, not sure i understand
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21:21.13Gnarfozit's modular was not the answer. layout options are there to create layouts. what's difficult about that?
21:21.44IndustrialGnarfoz: that i can also move stuff from a menu outside of the layout
21:22.37YssarilIndustrial: so you are complaining that you can change options form multiple places?
21:22.43Gnarfozsounds like it
21:22.50Industrialyes, thats unpretty design wise
21:22.54Industrialmore isnt better
21:23.22Chaotic_Dwell, taking off the optional dependencies seemed to help the modifications I made to the addon. it works really good now. ^_^ I really like having Cartographer's arrow pointing towards my next quest objective, with both the quest name and NPC name on it.
21:23.35Yssarildepends how you do it and for my taste i have thought that it made sese the way pitbull does its options
21:23.53ulicI don't see what's so bad about it, options for each frame + Global, it makes sense to me.
21:23.53Yssarili dont always want to enter config mode to change things
21:24.01ckknightactually seeing as movement options are in the layout and individual options are in the modules themselves, it merges them, so that it's in the same place to the user
21:24.05ckknightwhich, imho, is the best solution
21:24.19ckknightsince the layout objects need to interact with each other
21:24.59Industrialokay, well thats a good answer.
21:25.38ckknightif the movement and positioning were all independent, then it would be in the modules themselves, but it's not, they're all inter-related
21:25.44ckknightso there has to be some form of communication
21:26.00ckknightand by having the layout set up a proper infrastructure, the communication between layout objects becomes minimal
21:27.05Yssarilckknight ever thought of giving pitbull a gui config instead of the dropdowns?
21:27.10ckknightoh yea
21:27.14ckknightwell, you can use waterfall now
21:33.37Industrial<PROTECTED>
21:33.40Industrialwups
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21:45.16HjalteCan anyone recommend me somewhere online that i can log in and write down homework and such, and then check up on it later?
21:46.57NightHawkTheSaneHjalte: google documents?
21:47.00kebinusangoogle documents thingo
21:47.22NightHawkTheSanehttp://docs.google.com/
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21:47.57HjalteAh, I don't mean like that. More like a calendar, where i can write what we are to read for next tuesday and the like :)
21:48.04NightHawkTheSanegoogle calendar?
21:48.24kebinusangmail, address to self :-)
21:48.29kebinusanor that
21:48.51NightHawkTheSaneI, for one, welcome our new google overlords.
21:49.02HjalteBah, Google has everything.
21:49.14kebinusanIm waiting for porn.goggle.com
21:50.24Chaotic_Dbooble.com
21:50.41kebinusanoh yeah thats where fark boobies spawned off to
21:52.22Pkekyohttp://orz.4chan.org/d/src/1188163225569.jpg :>
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21:54.27cryogendoes wow delete your combat log logfile when it exits? oO
21:55.26NickenyfikenWhat's your favorite mailbox addon?
21:56.13NightHawkTheSanebm2 is nice
22:00.07Cyre2BM2 + BM2_Inbox
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22:00.25NightHawkTheSanedoesn't bm2 have the inbox part integrated?
22:00.54Cyre2IDTS...
22:01.32Cyre2I used Postal before that came along.
22:01.33NightHawkTheSaneoh, yeah, it used to
22:01.48NightHawkTheSanethen he split it out cause he added a bunch of stuff
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22:03.38Cyre2How many are in #wowace-cia? ^^
22:05.47NightHawkTheSane36?
22:06.07Cyre2Hit 40 this morning. :)
22:06.26NightHawkTheSanewhat's different about the CIA in there, as opposed to the one here?
22:06.44Diaonothing
22:06.45kebinusanhe has longer line limit
22:06.53Diaothe channel is +m though so you can't talk
22:06.53kebinusanor no line limit on commit messages I forget
22:07.00NightHawkTheSaneinteresting
22:07.04Diaoso you can see all the updates without interference
22:07.08Cyre2It has an 80-line limit, currently.
22:07.45Cyre2I'm the channel owner. ^^
22:07.55CIA-1403funkydude * r47471 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Shahraz.lua Souls.lua):
22:07.55CIA-14BigWigs: BlackTemple:
22:07.55CIA-14- Shahraz: speedup FA warning
22:07.55CIA-14- Souls: speedup Spite warning
22:08.38Cyre2I had to leave him on because if the bot DC's and has to come back in it needs a +v and I couldn't do it with ChanServ so my client does it.
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22:09.08Cyre2At my sister's.  Taking a little vacation. :-)
22:09.31NightHawkTheSanei'm pretty sure no one asked that question. ::P
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22:09.50Cyre2What question?
22:10.34harldephincorrect.
22:11.07Saint-Nis she hot?
22:11.07Cyre2I should've just brought my passwords. ><
22:11.15Saint-Nand why havent you posted pics yet
22:11.27Cyre2She's got a boyfriend.
22:11.30Saint-Nso?
22:11.32Cyre2And he's giving me a computer.
22:11.44Cyre2Soon.
22:11.45Cyre2<3
22:12.12Saint-Nthat still doesnt answer the is she hot question and the "gimme pics" statements
22:12.19NightHawkTheSanepfft. boyfriends can be.. eliminated.
22:12.43harldephinin the end, there's one question left: does it really matter?
22:13.17Saint-Nwell yes
22:13.21Saint-Nporn is porn ;P
22:13.31Pkekyodid I hear someone say porn?
22:13.32Saint-Nand if yu're not using your BW for porn get off the internet
22:13.53Cyre2Her boyfriend isn't going anywhere, tho.
22:14.05Saint-Nif it wasnt for pornography we wouldnt have broadband
22:14.05Cyre2They're gonna get married eventually.
22:14.07Saint-Nat home
22:14.10Saint-Nfor cheap
22:14.10Cyre2http://www.myspace.com/skinandjewelry
22:14.54Saint-Ngo smack the back of her head and tell her nickleback is ass ;P
22:15.01PkekyoI've -run out- of things to do :<
22:15.22Saint-N"so the way i feel when im drunk is correct?" "yes except that the dave matthews band does NOT rule"
22:16.12Cyre2She said "But I like Nickleback..." in a sad kiddie voice.
22:16.36Saint-Nhttp://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/
22:17.00Saint-Nthat should help pkekyo
22:17.05Saint-Ngo read that it's awesome
22:17.08harldephinhaha! and then a rice bag fell over.. -.-
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22:17.41Funkeh`hey nymbia
22:17.50nymbiayo
22:18.04Saint-Nlets play a game
22:18.14Saint-Nmake as many anagrams from nymbia's name as you can
22:18.17Saint-Nready go!
22:18.27Funkeh`sex
22:18.38Pkekyoanagrams?
22:18.49Saint-NFunkeh`: are you taking over for fisker while he's away?
22:19.12Funkeh`Saint-N: no, nymbia is jsut sex.
22:19.13Saint-Nremix the letteres to form dirrect words using all the letters each time
22:19.40Saint-Newwww
22:19.44nymbiahot
22:19.52Saint-Nyer gonna get stuble rash
22:19.58Saint-Non yer weiner
22:19.59NightHawkTheSanemeh. Funkeh`'s leg was better.
22:20.00harldephinsome people just don't deserve their "BW". i'm sure.
22:20.19Saint-Nno-one relaly deserves BW
22:20.21Saint-Nreally
22:20.29Saint-Nsome just deserve it a lot less
22:20.44Saint-Nwelp time to wander home
22:20.47Saint-Nseeyas
22:21.30PkekyoBW?
22:21.30CIA-1403thexod * r47472 10ItemValue/ (BestItems.lua ItemValue.lua):
22:21.30CIA-14ItemValue:
22:21.30CIA-14- Bestjewels now round as it should
22:21.31CIA-14- Now using Gratuity to scan for tooltip text color, too
22:21.31CIA-14- Fixed error involving non-equipped items
22:22.12harldephindunno. Saint-N meant to use it for "bandwidth", i guess.
22:22.15Pkekyo"Margret thinks I'm vain because... I use a mirror when I shave. During this argument in the bathroom"
22:22.45orionshockhow is   local db = ReportAFK.db.profile  attempting to index a nil?
22:23.07orionshockeveryone else does it, wtf?
22:24.06orionshocknevermind.. found what i was doing wrong
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22:31.07CIA-1403anaram * r47473 10GridStatusLifebloom/GridStatusLifebloom.lua: GridStatusLifebloom - added experimental option to display time as global cooldowns instead of seconds.
22:33.20NightHawkTheSaneyay! cantaloupe!
22:34.42ckknightyay!
22:35.24CIA-1403phanx * r47474 10GridStatusHealingReduced/ (. Core.lua GridStatusHealingReduced.toc ReadMe.txt):
22:35.24CIA-14GridStatusHealingReduced: initial commit
22:35.24CIA-14- Adds status indicators to Grid for debuffs that reduce or prevent healing taken.
22:36.13ckknightPkekyo: I don't get it.
22:37.06NightHawkTheSanei wonder  how salt would taste on this
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22:37.48NightHawkTheSane...not as good as on watermelon, but not terrible
22:46.38Pkekyockknight: don't get what?
22:46.55ckknight<Pkekyo> "Margret thinks I'm vain because... I use a mirror when I shave. During this argument in the bathroom"
22:47.35Pkekyoquote from http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/ :>
22:48.01Pkekyoeverything from behind 'shave' shouldn't have been included in the quote though
22:48.12mortweeeee kael'thas at 22% :)
22:48.31Pkekyo" 'Hello, Papa - I've missed you,' he shouts. From within the living room Margret's voice calls out to him 'No you haven't, Peter.' "
22:48.52harldephinoO
22:49.31Pkekyonow that's parenting
22:53.15NightHawkTheSane"The government of china does not believe in keeping secrets from its people." hahaha. yeaaah...
22:53.29mortstargate?
22:55.17Funkeh`ofc
22:55.37NightHawkTheSaneit's a clip show, but its still vaguely amusing
22:56.03ennuilgIs there a built-in function to convert bool to string on the fly? It's a simple function to write, but I don't want to use five tokens where one will do! :-)
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23:01.30ckknighttostring, ennuilg
23:01.36ckknighttostring(true) == "true"
23:01.39ckknighttostring(false) == "false"
23:01.53ckknightworks on everything
23:02.18ennuilgThanks ckknight. I knew there had to be something - just couldn't find it myself.
23:02.39ckknightyou should read http://www.lua.org/pil if you haven't yet
23:03.24ennuilgI was looking at /manual - but will take a look at /pil too. Thanks.
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23:04.41CIA-1403phanx * r47475 10OnScreenHealth/ (OnScreenHealth.lua OnScreenHealth.toc):
23:04.41CIA-14OnScreenHealth:
23:04.41CIA-14- Fixed error in setting health color mode
23:04.41CIA-14- Added some debugging for SML font support
23:11.59NightHawkTheSaneYou know, it's really stunning how many high-level favors and connections general hammond has.
23:12.19PkekyoDirect X is backwards-compatible, no?
23:12.22PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: agreed
23:12.41NightHawkTheSaneit really almost borders on deus ex machina at times.
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23:13.44genetik-anyone know how to change which chat frame that system messages display to?
23:13.45CIA-1403ennuilg * r47476 10scorchio/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
23:13.45CIA-14scorchio:
23:13.45CIA-14- Run hasImpScorch as a function to improve reliability of check.
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23:19.48AmadeoWarning: Don't try to solo Shadra at 53 :P
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23:23.41Pkekyoanyone here familliar with ObjectDock?
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23:36.05CIA-1403nevcairiel * r47477 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
23:36.05CIA-14LibStub: LS-8
23:36.05CIA-14- consistency among error message quotes
23:36.59Pkekyohttp://orz.4chan.org/wg/src/1188165912799.png
23:37.32ckknightnevcairiel: in Blizzard's error messages, the method name shows as `NewLibrary', not 'NewLibrary'
23:37.40nevcairielso?
23:38.08nevcairielit just looks funny
23:38.15nevcairieli bet its a typo on blizzards part!
23:38.36ckknightit's not
23:38.48ckknightit looks better ingame
23:38.55ckknightwhere it actually matters
23:39.15ckknightand error catchers like BugSack, etc. color grouping the ` and '
23:39.26PkekyoSense. - We make none!
23:40.30ckknighthttp://stopgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/sense.jpg
23:40.53NightHawkTheSaneit's not a typo, afaik, ` is used as a leading quote when "smart quotes" arnt available
23:40.59ckknightyea
23:41.03NightHawkTheSane(and, to be sure,they're not in standard ascii, iirc)
23:41.14ckknightsmart quotes aren't
23:41.17ckknight` and ' are
23:41.22NightHawkTheSaneyes, thats what I meant.
23:41.31ckknightk
23:41.41PkekyoI hate my school's network admin :<
23:41.54Pkekyohe's forcing everyone to run fucking vista >.<
23:42.33ckknightsrsly?
23:42.55NightHawkTheSanewhat do you mean by "forcing everyone"
23:43.00AmadeoYeah, what's that mean?
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23:43.41PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: well, he won't support anything but vista, and will attempt to exclude systems running any other OS
23:43.52CIA-1403nevcairiel * r47478 10LibStub/LibStub.lua:
23:43.52CIA-14LibStub: LS-8
23:43.52CIA-14- change the quote back, because blizzard thinks its cool, and since my last commit aimed for consistency .. we go consistent with them
23:43.52Pkekyodunno how he's gonna do it, but that's what he says...
23:43.53Pkekyogoddamn fanboy cunt
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23:44.09NightHawkTheSanePkekyo: well, if they're the school's own computers, that's 100% justifiable
23:44.10Cyre2Colorful language, lol.
23:44.29Cyre2Yeah, they can do what they want. ><
23:44.41PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: he's still a fucking cunt
23:44.48Cyre2Get a Linux LiveCD.
23:44.51NightHawkTheSaneIf the school has a policy of allowing personal computers on it's network, then not supporting non-vista os's, while justifiable, is really just douchbaggery :P
23:44.56PkekyoCyre2: I have millions
23:45.08Cyre2^^
23:45.50PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: he installed vista on all the workstations in our sound studio last spring....it completely fucked up all our work on our audio projects...
23:45.51Pkekyothe main problem is, we work on hardware that is not -in any way- supposed to run windows vista
23:46.11NightHawkTheSanewell that's another issue entirely
23:46.25NightHawkTheSaneand not neccesarily the sysadmin's fault
23:46.25Pkekyohence: he's a cunt :>
23:46.29Pkekyoyes it is
23:46.32NightHawkTheSaneare you sure?
23:46.44Pkekyoit's his decision to enforce windows vista
23:46.45NightHawkTheSanethere's a number of other reasons why it might not be?
23:47.29Pkekyowe've been running win xp for years now, everyone's happy with it, it works fine for everything we use it for. we even begged him to let us keep it, but the bastard wouldn't even hear it...
23:47.49nevcairieli wouldnt use vista anywhere
23:47.51Cyre2What a dumbass.
23:47.55NightHawkTheSaneIt could be a lack of funding, or a lack of approved funding for new machines, it could be a policy sent down by superiors to run vista, there's number of things that are outside a sysadmin's control
23:48.05Cyre2Vista is worse than Windows ME.
23:48.15Cyre2And that saying a lot.
23:48.18nevcairieli wouldnt say that
23:48.20Cyre2*that's
23:48.28nevcairielits not too bad, it just needs a service pack :P
23:48.33Pkekyonevcairiel: my brother just got a laptop with vista on, I was supposed to help him set it up...after 20min I was about to throw the sod out the window (both my brother and his laptop, aye)
23:49.03PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: no, it's not a policy sent down by superiors, which would exclude the lack of funding for vista compatible hardware policy
23:50.00NightHawkTheSaneI'm just saying don't always be so quick to blame an individual for things that may be outside their control :P
23:50.36Cyre2I'm sticking with Win2K.
23:51.04PkekyoNightHawkTheSane: well, I know him, and the board of my school, and he's a fanboy cunt that runs around drooling over anything labeled 'Microsoft' whilst burning the money in the school's budget
23:51.23NightHawkTheSanewait, sylvanaar works at your school? ;)
23:51.41Cyre2BURN!!!!!12
23:51.53Pkekyonot that I know...?
23:51.57nevcairiellol NightHawkTheSane
23:51.59NightHawkTheSane(i was joking :P)
23:52.24Pkekyono you were not
23:52.29Pkekyonowai
23:53.45Pkekyomeh, the sysadmin is a dickwad
23:54.15NightHawkTheSaneis there a way to specify a particular shapeshift form in a macro conditional?
23:54.32NightHawkTheSanealso, wow i mangled that sentence. ><
23:54.40AmadeoMangle is a Druid ability
23:54.44Punkie`Pkekyo: Vista is making my next computer become a mac :p
23:54.53NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: yay!
23:55.00PkekyoPunkie`: ditto
23:55.14PkekyoI'm sitting ready to order it...but cba to get any more debt
23:55.14AmadeoApple could make my next computer become a Mac if they start putting in top of the line video options, or at least nearly :P
23:55.18Cyre2I love Macs, they just don't let me do everything I like to do.
23:55.33Punkie`Amadeo: If you only play WoW, you'd be surprised how well it runs
23:55.38NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: er, buy 3rd party? :P
23:55.43Punkie`NightHawkTheSane: you can't
23:55.45ckknightI have a mac
23:55.48Punkie`at least for an iMac
23:55.53NightHawkTheSanemeh, fuck imacs.
23:55.53TNSeNightHawkTheSane, [stance:x9
23:55.55TNSeNightHawkTheSane, [stance:x]
23:55.55Punkie`it's a chip on the logic board
23:56.01NightHawkTheSaneyou don't get an imac because of it's video card.
23:56.03ckknightget a Mac Pro or a MacBook Pro
23:56.07ckknightits
23:56.08AmadeoWell, I was actually hoping they put a better one in the MB Pro :)
23:56.16NightHawkTheSaneTNSe: danke
23:56.28Punkie`ckknight: both are fine if you are happy to splash out
23:56.37NightHawkTheSaneif you're buying a mac that's not easily upgradable, it's really your own damn fault
23:56.39ckknightI have a MacBook Pro
23:56.44ckknightI need to upgrade its ram
23:56.54AmadeoHow much do you have?
23:56.55Punkie`never buy ram from apple
23:56.57ckknightput a 2 GiB stick in
23:56.59ckknightI have 1 GiB
23:57.02ckknightPunkie`: I know
23:57.07Punkie`get it from crucial or so
23:57.18NightHawkTheSanePunkie`: it's rarely worth buying much of anything extra from apple.
23:57.31Punkie`well I would love a mac pro
23:57.34NightHawkTheSaneyou can always get the exact same parts cheaper elsewhere.
23:57.38Pkekyochances is you can get it at half the price from any other hardware supplier
23:57.40AmadeoIs the Mac Mini going to be discontinued?
23:57.40NightHawkTheSane<3's OWC.
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23:57.46NightHawkTheSaneAmadeo: doubtful.
23:57.48Punkie`but I am not going to shell out £6000 for a decent machine :P
23:58.23Punkie`I'd just have the iMac for £1k which can run wow, final cut and such :P
23:58.27Mecdemortckknight: What kind of stuff goes inside the data {} of the tablet register?
23:58.36Amadeowhat's the video in the iMac?
23:58.57Punkie`some £70 ATI card
23:59.02ckknightMecdemort: I'm not sure, there's a lot
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23:59.09Punkie`2600 HD or somethign
23:59.16Pkekyo£70 ATI cards = win
23:59.19AmadeoiMac would be a great computer for my father
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23:59.28Mecdemortckknight: is it defined anywhere? i cant find anything referencing it
23:59.47ckknightin the wiki, which crashed
23:59.56Punkie`I just want a new iMac anyway, even the keyboard is sexy :P

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