00:01.55 | ckknight | .. |
00:02.08 | Neebler | haw! |
00:07.37 | Amadeo | Hemlock doesn't work anymore? |
00:08.08 | Amadeo | Hm, now it is..that was strange |
00:08.15 | Amadeo | It would make 2 poisons then stop, 2 poisons then stop |
00:08.19 | Amadeo | now it's making all of them finally |
00:13.48 | Diao | lol |
00:13.52 | Diao | that is strange |
00:16.42 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Joker * r47413 10CowTip/CowTip/ (CowTip.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
00:16.42 | CIA-14 | CowTip - add LibJokerConfig-1.0 to libs and embeds.xml |
00:16.42 | CIA-14 | - removed the -Ace2- thing in the TOC. |
00:21.20 | Amadeo | Joker is holding CowTip hostage, someone signal Batman! |
00:22.17 | |Stan| | *lights up signal* |
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00:23.01 | ckknight | :-P |
00:23.03 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47414 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - make the configuration show a reload button that becomes enabled if an option changes, instead of automatically reloading at times. |
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00:31.42 | TNSe | so when is Fubar-Joker ready :P |
00:32.01 | ckknight | there are quite a few libs to port for that to happen |
00:32.06 | TNSe | :/ |
00:32.08 | ckknight | and I'll likely redo FuBarPlugin entirely |
00:32.23 | TNSe | <3 fubar |
00:33.16 | ckknight | hehe |
00:33.21 | ckknight | FuBar was my first addon :-P |
00:33.41 | TNSe | and its the first thing I install every time I have to reinstall my ui |
00:33.47 | TNSe | can't live without the bar at top/bottom |
00:35.24 | Chompers | you have it at the bottom too? |
00:35.29 | TNSe | yeh :P |
00:35.33 | TNSe | I play windowed |
00:35.43 | kenlyric | so, I just can't grep from the updates/name what joker is. |
00:36.02 | TNSe | Ace v3, except done better ;) |
00:36.03 | CIA-14 | 03gagorian * r47415 10DrDamage/Data/Druid.lua: |
00:36.03 | CIA-14 | DrDamage: |
00:36.03 | CIA-14 | - Druid idol update |
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00:37.18 | QuantumDelta | *Pokies ckknight* |
00:37.24 | ckknight | hrm? |
00:37.28 | QuantumDelta | aha |
00:37.31 | QuantumDelta | been wanting to catch ya |
00:37.43 | TNSe | Gagorian, tough question, but are you planning to implement into the tooltip a method to compare stats based on their itemization value? : |
00:37.44 | TNSe | :P |
00:37.46 | QuantumDelta | I have a hopefully easy question regarding main assist windows in pitbull |
00:38.00 | ckknight | TNSe: seeing as I wrote most of Ace2 and Ace3 hasn't been talked about or designed in any real form, you can't say that it's better than Ace3, as Ace3 does not really exist |
00:38.09 | ckknight | QuantumDelta: k? |
00:38.11 | QuantumDelta | do you know any addons that actually use those unitframes? |
00:38.23 | TNSe | ckknight, :P |
00:38.25 | ckknight | no, QuantumDelta |
00:38.34 | QuantumDelta | They seem to be the equivilent of "Player Targets" in ora2/ctra |
00:38.41 | ckknight | hrm |
00:38.53 | QuantumDelta | but don't link up |
00:38.57 | ckknight | if I get a good API for getting the names of said player targets, I could make it double |
00:39.25 | QuantumDelta | want me to try to find out for you? |
00:39.47 | QuantumDelta | baring in mind i'm basically just a user with an interest I might be a bit useless to ya :< |
00:39.51 | TNSe | ckknight, you prefer "improved ace2" then? :P |
00:40.01 | ckknight | *shrug* |
00:40.17 | ckknight | it's a new framework written from scratch, with the hindsight of Dongle, Ace2, Cosmos, etc. |
00:40.42 | TNSe | heh |
00:40.54 | Gagorian | TNSe: I doubt it. |
00:41.04 | TNSe | meh :P |
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00:44.17 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, heh still have to explain what it is? :) |
00:44.29 | ckknight | ...yea |
00:44.38 | [Liquidor] | Can anyone tell me what the \number is for the sign | is ? |
00:44.47 | NightHawkTheSane | google could |
00:45.09 | Xinhuan | its \124 |
00:45.13 | [Liquidor] | thanks |
00:45.14 | Xinhuan | off the top of my head |
00:45.19 | [Liquidor] | so... |
00:45.22 | NightHawkTheSane | don't give people answers :P |
00:45.26 | [Liquidor] | \124cff ? |
00:45.37 | Xinhuan | ya |
00:45.39 | Mecdemort | is there a difference betwen local type = type; and local type = _G.type ? |
00:45.50 | Xinhuan | Mecdemort: no difference |
00:46.12 | Gagorian | _G. is slower? |
00:46.19 | Xinhuan | its the same speed i believe |
00:46.25 | Xinhuan | one just looks uglier |
00:46.37 | Mecdemort | hmm what if i've already done local _G = _G |
00:47.01 | Xinhuan | its still the same speed - you have to table lookup inside the _G table |
00:47.10 | Mecdemort | ok |
00:49.20 | Gagorian | _G.type is definately slower than type |
00:51.01 | Gagorian | If you do local _G = _G; local type = _G.type is a bit faster or roughly the same speed as local type = type |
00:52.28 | Gagorian | But if you only make local copies of a few functions it's better to not make a local copy of _G just for that. |
00:52.42 | Gagorian | So, I'd personally go with local type = type |
00:52.43 | Gagorian | :P |
00:52.52 | Funkeh` | Its also not fugly |
00:52.59 | Gagorian | Indeed |
00:53.11 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's not fugly. |
00:53.30 | Xinhuan | i think we're thinking too much over something as small as 16 clock cycles or something of code that only gets run once ;p |
00:54.05 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: Why thanks! |
00:54.23 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
00:54.42 | Funkeh` | Your mom is though unfortunately. |
00:55.05 | Xinhuan | did they make armory faster or something? firefox is loading it within 0.5s or something instead of half a minute |
00:55.07 | ckknight | actually, Gagorian, if _G is local, _G.type is faster than accessing type |
00:55.18 | ckknight | seeing as type requires a fenv lookup |
00:55.23 | ckknight | whereas _G.type doesn't |
00:55.28 | Gagorian | [03:53:10] <Gagorian> If you do local _G = _G; local type = _G.type is a bit faster or roughly the same speed as local type = type |
00:55.32 | ckknight | it's just a table lookup |
00:55.42 | Gagorian | That's what I said |
00:56.23 | Gagorian | but local _G = _G costs also something |
00:56.39 | Xinhuan | it costs a fenv lookup ;p |
00:56.41 | ckknight | yea, 8 bytes |
00:56.43 | ckknight | :-P |
00:56.46 | ckknight | memory-wise |
00:57.01 | ckknight | and if you never use it again, even though the local is in the scope, it's thrown away |
00:58.00 | Gagorian | Well, it's slightly faster but the difference is so small it's not really worth it :p |
00:59.11 | TNSe | lol |
00:59.52 | TNSe | sounds like someone needs to make a preparser and optimizer for wow scripting :P |
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01:03.08 | ckknight | :-P |
01:03.17 | ckknight | part of me wishes lua had macros |
01:03.21 | ckknight | for things like that |
01:03.54 | TNSe | macros like? |
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01:05.00 | nevcairiel | preprocessor macros in C |
01:05.02 | nevcairiel | for example :p |
01:05.04 | nevcairiel | good stuff |
01:06.44 | TNSe | ah |
01:06.46 | TNSe | yeah |
01:07.23 | ckknight | nevcairiel: I'd totally use it for asserts and the like |
01:07.25 | TNSe | I used to do unrealscript programming for a good while |
01:07.37 | TNSe | looooooong time |
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01:13.00 | ckknight | technically, we could create our own macro system, it's just that we'd then need to wrap every lua file in some kind of myload([====[ code here ]====]) |
01:13.24 | Xinhuan | that would be gay to parse it yourself ;p |
01:13.42 | ckknight | well, yes. |
01:13.49 | ckknight | not horrible, though |
01:13.56 | Xinhuan | not elegant |
01:13.59 | Xinhuan | lol |
01:14.54 | ckknight | *shrug* |
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01:26.36 | Silowyi | WTB: people that don't stand in flame patches |
01:29.50 | TNSe | y? |
01:30.04 | TNSe | tell them to look from top |
01:30.11 | TNSe | its hard to spot them flame patches if you don't >_< |
01:30.25 | Xinhuan | depends on video card actually |
01:30.54 | Xinhuan | my old video card couldn't draw vashj's poison, nightbane's fire patch, or alar's flame patch on the floor - all i can see is the smoke from it |
01:31.04 | TNSe | everything on my machine looks the same red color in al'ars room |
01:31.14 | TNSe | it makes my eyes bleed |
01:31.27 | Matrix110 | your graphics card are seriously fucked or damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn damn old |
01:31.37 | Xinhuan | it was a 6600 |
01:31.41 | Xinhuan | that couldn't draw it |
01:31.43 | TNSe | gf8800 or so |
01:31.56 | Matrix110 | erm then the user infront of the Pc is doing something wrong |
01:32.02 | TNSe | 8600 |
01:32.06 | TNSe | heh |
01:32.07 | Matrix110 | a 6600 is perfectly capable of displaying these effects... |
01:32.08 | TNSe | I can see it |
01:32.17 | Xinhuan | nto a 6600 on a AGp |
01:32.21 | TNSe | I just don't like al'ars room |
01:32.23 | Xinhuan | on a 1 ghz comp |
01:32.23 | TNSe | its so reddish |
01:32.26 | Matrix110 | but if you dont turn spell details up well then its your own fault |
01:32.38 | Matrix110 | a 6600 can of course display them... |
01:32.58 | Xinhuan | tried lots of stuff, it just doesn't display those effects, everything else was fine |
01:33.03 | Matrix110 | its your fault your cant see em |
01:33.09 | Matrix110 | either your Client is fucked |
01:33.20 | Silowyi | WTB: people who don't get tired and go to sleep after 2 hours of raiding :P |
01:33.20 | Xinhuan | i am using the exact same client on my new comp |
01:33.20 | Matrix110 | your card is fucked(but i doubt that if it works normally elsewhere) |
01:33.24 | Matrix110 | your drivers are fucked |
01:33.33 | Xinhuan | i am also using the same exact drivers now |
01:33.35 | Xinhuan | as my old card |
01:33.49 | Xinhuan | all i did was take my hd out and put it in my new PC and booted from it |
01:33.59 | Xinhuan | nforce drivers work for both 6600 and 8800 |
01:34.04 | Matrix110 | thats like the worst thing you can possibly do... |
01:34.23 | Matrix110 | just because they work for both cards doesnt mean they work as they got installed... |
01:34.37 | Xinhuan | not exactly - both manuals said to update to the latest and that's the latest |
01:34.49 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47416 10OnScreenHealth/ (. Locale-koKR.lua OnScreenHealth.lua OnScreenHealth.toc): (log message trimmed) |
01:34.49 | CIA-14 | OnScreenHealth: |
01:34.49 | CIA-14 | - Added more formats for health text |
01:34.49 | CIA-14 | - Added class/hostility color mode for health text |
01:34.49 | CIA-14 | - Cleaned up alpha mode options |
01:34.49 | TNSe | I see flame patches fine :P |
01:34.50 | CIA-14 | - Increased range for setting positions |
01:34.52 | CIA-14 | - Fixed player frame showing as a ghost when showDead is disabled |
01:34.57 | TNSe | the problem is that the entire room makes my eyes bleed :P |
01:35.23 | Matrix110 | You took your Windows from another machine with drivers for THIS machine that only work as good as on that machine with exactly the same hardware and put it into another PC with other hardware components |
01:35.55 | Xinhuan | correct - and without reinstalling anything totally, it now works |
01:36.05 | Xinhuan | i only reinstalled mb drivers |
01:36.14 | Xinhuan | since its a different mb |
01:36.16 | Matrix110 | ah well have fun with a messed up system |
01:36.50 | Xinhuan | i dont' see how it can be messed up as both gxcards manuals point to the same place to download the latest driver updates lol |
01:37.12 | Matrix110 | you cant believe that a installation routine might be able to do a simple check WHICH graphics card you got isntalled? |
01:37.36 | Matrix110 | just because Nvidia offers driver packages for dumbasses so they cant choose the wrong one doesnt mean there is only 1 unified driver inside.. |
01:37.47 | Xinhuan | explain to me then, why installing the latest drivers on my old machine didn't work to display the spell effects on the floor, while moving it to a new PC works without reinstalling anything |
01:38.07 | Matrix110 | because you messed something up is my guess |
01:38.23 | Matrix110 | a 6600 is totally capable of displaying these effects and prolly does it in some thousand PCs |
01:39.25 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, just dropit |
01:39.30 | Xinhuan | doesn't matter anymore |
01:39.35 | Xinhuan | dont' use the 6600 anymore |
01:46.24 | Funkeh` | Anyone rememebr the console command to show fps in :Source? |
01:46.45 | NightHawkTheSane | "How'd you learn to drive?" "Daniel Jackson instructed me." "Oh yeah, when was that?" "I believe the year was 1969." |
01:47.12 | Funkeh` | :) |
01:56.47 | CIA-14 | 03kemayo * r47417 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Comments/FuBar_QuestsFu_Comments.toc: |
01:56.47 | CIA-14 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
01:56.47 | CIA-14 | - Give Comments an OptDep on Details so when people run disembedded it's easier. |
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02:01.54 | BankZ | I wish SCL color coded by class |
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02:11.16 | Skeptiv | hey, is acolyte 2 better than necrosis for warlocks? or is there even better one |
02:13.29 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47418 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealth.lua: |
02:13.29 | CIA-14 | OnScreenHealth: |
02:13.29 | CIA-14 | - Turned off debugging... again >_< |
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02:20.27 | Antiarc | So I think I've finally solved my crashing/freezing/general system instability issues |
02:20.32 | ckknight | oh? |
02:20.39 | Antiarc | Turns out my 3.3v rail was running at 2.5v, and my 5v at 4.5v |
02:21.08 | Antiarc | So yeah, just installed a new PSU |
02:21.11 | Antiarc | We'll see how it works |
02:22.17 | ckknight | alright |
02:22.39 | QuantumDelta | (03:12:40) (Skeptiv) hey, is acolyte 2 better than necrosis for warlocks? or is there even better one <-- Anythings better then Necrosis as long as it doesn't encourage you to spam nonsense in chat channels! |
02:22.58 | kenlyric | i am summoning a steed from nightmare. |
02:23.07 | QuantumDelta | *cries* |
02:23.21 | kenlyric | right, because the whole fucking zone needs to know that. |
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02:29.48 | Yssaril | i personaly like shardace only use the summon spam :) |
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02:32.40 | dreamss2 | ahh acolyte needs lifetap button :P |
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02:32.54 | dreamss2 | feldomination |
02:34.04 | Yssaril | ckknight is pitbull gonna have a module that shows who is talking in the party/raid come 2.2? |
02:34.16 | ckknight | yes |
02:34.23 | Yssaril | woot |
02:38.48 | Funkeh` | Not its not. |
02:38.53 | Funkeh` | Not until he fixes auras. ;) |
02:40.40 | ckknight | lame |
02:45.12 | ckknight | k? |
02:45.17 | ckknight | feel special? |
02:45.21 | Zicon | I like mango. |
02:45.25 | NightHawkTheSane | a little,yes? |
02:45.27 | ckknight | yea, mango's good |
02:45.40 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I'm pretty sure all those are in the fruit basket of my house. |
02:45.51 | ckknight | maybe not the pomegranate, but that can be bought |
02:46.05 | ckknight | fruit's easy to come by here |
02:46.07 | NightHawkTheSane | well, they weren't in mine, which -- not coincidentally -- was why i purchased them. |
02:46.18 | Mecdemort | is there a way to do a raw tostring on a table that has a meta field for it? |
02:46.25 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not hard to come by here either, but i just didn't have any |
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02:51.37 | kb1ibt | who should i contact to make an improvement to Mr. Plow? |
02:52.23 | Funkeh` | Mrs. Plow |
02:52.34 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
02:52.39 | kb1ibt | lawl |
02:55.24 | kenlyric | strange, my wow client just stopped drawing. |
02:55.42 | xyu | it ran out of paper |
02:56.15 | kenlyric | ug. |
02:56.20 | kenlyric | driver crash |
02:56.55 | kb1ibt | <PROTECTED> |
02:57.08 | kb1ibt | nope |
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03:00.00 | Mecdemort | Anyone know how to change the color of lines within a tablet? |
03:01.03 | ckknight | Mecdemort: 'textR', 1, 'textG', 0, 'textB', 1 |
03:01.06 | ckknight | fuschia line |
03:01.10 | ckknight | well, column |
03:01.20 | Mecdemort | sorry, within a line. |c..|r doesnt seem to work |
03:02.09 | ckknight | hrm |
03:02.11 | ckknight | it should. |
03:03.10 | Mecdemort | i know, and it works for a string that already has color formatting, but cat:AddLine('text', "|cffffffff{|r") results a { of that bronzish color |
03:04.11 | Thrae | What is 'cat', a tooltip object? |
03:05.01 | Mecdemort | cat = tablet:AddCategory(...) |
03:05.07 | ckknight | category |
03:05.14 | Thrae | Ah, that |
03:05.54 | Thrae | ckknight: If no colour is given, do you have Tablet set the colour to a default colour? Since that'll override |c..|r. |
03:05.57 | ckknight | cat, I'm a kitty cat, and I dance-dance-dance and I dance-dance-dance |
03:06.15 | ckknight | I believe it sets either to white or to yellow |
03:06.18 | ckknight | forget which is default |
03:06.25 | Mecdemort | yellow is the default |
03:06.46 | Thrae | Mecdemort: So you want to use more then one colour in a tablet line? |
03:06.51 | Mecdemort | yar |
03:07.08 | Thrae | Yeah, I think the current implementation sets the entire line to the given colour only |
03:07.27 | ckknight | using |cffstuffs|r should work |
03:07.33 | Mecdemort | and it does |
03:07.37 | Mecdemort | hold on ill get a pic |
03:08.25 | ckknight | wait, if it works, what's the issue? |
03:08.44 | Mecdemort | you'll see, just give me a sec, in the middle of an archimond attempt |
03:11.16 | Yssaril | how do i change how dewdrop anchors to a frame? |
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03:11.36 | ckknight | hrm... |
03:12.08 | Yssaril | (i mean how can i make it spawn from the bottom top so on |
03:13.01 | Mecdemort | http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5928/tabletabletgb8.png the 2nd line and the -ace- are colored correctly with |c |r, but the first { should be white using the same method |
03:14.25 | Yssaril | right now it just spawns out of the left side of my editbox |
03:14.33 | BankZ | What bag replacement do you guys like best? |
03:14.44 | ckknight | Mecdemort: |r doesn't mean white, so you know, it means yellow in that case |
03:15.09 | Mecdemort | i know but |cffffffff{|r should make it white and the rest back to yellow right? |
03:15.13 | ckknight | to set it to white by default, do 'textR', 1, 'textG', 1, 'textB', 1 |
03:15.14 | Yssaril | BankZ: currently i am in love with baggins |
03:15.16 | ckknight | it should... |
03:15.34 | kenlyric | biblo? |
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03:17.55 | kb1ibt | what is the easiest way to check via lua as to what type of bag you have example a mining bag verses a regular bag |
03:22.02 | Mecdemort | GetBagName(0), 1,2,3, GetBagName(4) |
03:22.17 | Mecdemort | or you can do it by slots |
03:22.53 | Nargiddley | Mecdemort, name isnt that easy to goto type from |
03:23.26 | Mecdemort | ya |
03:23.27 | kb1ibt | so basically i would have to know all the names of the different bags per profession, |
03:23.33 | Nargiddley | no you can get the type |
03:23.41 | Nargiddley | i'll get the code baggins uses |
03:24.12 | Mecdemort | wow i saw mining as mini |
03:25.25 | Nargiddley | http://narg.pastey.net/72753 |
03:25.39 | kb1ibt | cause basically i was thinking about creating a patch for MrPlow to allow it to sort things out into their respective bag types so that way ore and bars could be in my mining bag and yet not have MrPlow yell at me when it tries to put non-mining stuff in that bag |
03:25.42 | Nargiddley | where bag is the bag number, 1-11 |
03:26.00 | Nargiddley | well, for that you also need a list of things that can go in each bag |
03:26.09 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47419 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: |
03:26.09 | CIA-14 | LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add preliminary config table validation. Only checks if contracts are enabled. |
03:26.09 | CIA-14 | - due to the way lua's garbage collection works, if contracts aren't enabled, all the validation functions et al are destroyed, saving memory :-) |
03:26.57 | kb1ibt | Nargiddley: mrplow seems to already sort that out since it knows what things are when sorting |
03:28.49 | kb1ibt | specifically line 69-97 of mrplow.lua shows all the different types that it breaks out |
03:33.28 | Wobin | kb1ibt: pong |
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03:33.59 | Wobin | oh |
03:34.01 | kb1ibt | Wobin: |
03:34.05 | Wobin | hm |
03:34.55 | Wobin | I think the limitation I have so far is what you pointed out, I need a definitive list of what fits in what bag |
03:35.06 | Wobin | Also, I'm rewriting MrPlow slowly |
03:35.19 | kb1ibt | basically since i have a mining bag it gets stuck and i have to add it to the ignore list in order to sort everything else |
03:35.26 | Wobin | I'll have to figure out how to fit that into the schema |
03:39.21 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47420 10YssGuildShop/ (YssGuildShop.lua YssGuildShop.toc): |
03:39.21 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
03:39.21 | CIA-14 | - clears old data to get rid of errors from a bad SV file |
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03:41.40 | Wobin | hm, coroutines to swap items |
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03:43.46 | kb1ibt | basically my thought was check to see if there are any special bags like the mining bags (since there must already be a check for ammo bags) and if there is then seperate those items from the regular sort |
03:44.08 | Wobin | yeah |
03:44.10 | kb1ibt | and try to fill their bag first then leave the rest to fit into general purpose bags |
03:44.45 | Wobin | could be somewhat messy |
03:44.55 | Wobin | It's definitely in the todo list though |
03:47.51 | kb1ibt | iif i were to come up with some sort of patch that would handle it where do you want me to post the patch file so you could check it and tweak it before going live? |
03:49.07 | Skeptiv | is there anything like Fishing Buddy aced? |
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04:03.51 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r47421 10OnScreenHealth/Locale-koKR.lua: |
04:03.51 | CIA-14 | OnScreenHealth: |
04:03.51 | CIA-14 | - Updated localization koKR |
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04:29.25 | mikma | gah :O |
04:29.35 | mikma | why can't there be any good KoS lists out there :( |
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04:34.48 | fireglow | Epeen, vanaskos not good? |
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04:37.05 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r47422 10OnScreenHealth/Locale-koKR.lua: |
04:37.06 | CIA-14 | OnScreenHealth: |
04:37.06 | CIA-14 | - Updated localization koKR(Typo fix) |
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04:38.09 | TNSe | is it wrong to summon level 1's to hellfire as bait for fel reavers? |
04:38.47 | TNSe | we couldn't find one >_< |
04:39.32 | NightHawkTheSane | not at all. :P |
04:40.12 | NightHawkTheSane | that sounds almost as much fun as summoning people to the bottom of hyjal |
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04:41.57 | CIA-14 | 03somerset * r47423 10ChanList/ (6 files): |
04:41.57 | CIA-14 | ChanList |
04:41.57 | CIA-14 | - initial commit |
04:43.29 | Antiarc | Wowace got a mention in the latest Game Informer |
04:43.41 | Antiarc | And BT3, Fubar, Cart, Prat, and Omen got mentioned as highlights :D |
04:43.52 | NightHawkTheSane | thats neat |
04:44.09 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, grats on omen? :P |
04:44.14 | Antiarc | :D |
04:44.27 | Antiarc | Grid got a screenshot too |
04:44.32 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, considering how short a time it's been out, relatively speaking,that is kinda impressive |
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04:48.53 | ckknight | woo, 2/5 |
04:48.54 | ckknight | I win |
04:49.00 | ckknight | beat that, Antiarc |
04:49.04 | ckknight | pshaw |
04:49.11 | Antiarc | well |
04:49.14 | ckknight | :-P |
04:49.18 | Antiarc | If you average out project lifetimes / mentions |
04:49.19 | Antiarc | I win |
04:49.22 | ckknight | link? |
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04:49.26 | Antiarc | Magazine |
04:49.29 | ckknight | oh |
04:49.34 | ckknight | alright |
04:49.53 | Antiarc | One sec, I'll take a picture |
04:51.13 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47424 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - add fake localization to the enable toggle for addons. |
04:53.40 | ckknight | hrm, part of me wants to take the handler part out of LibJokerConfig-1.0 |
04:53.48 | ckknight | and just always have it be the addon in question. |
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04:56.24 | Funkeh` | later |
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05:02.42 | TNSe | lol. |
05:03.25 | TNSe | Omen has some weird bugs |
05:03.37 | TNSe | like any shadowfiend always being on top of threat between fights |
05:04.37 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r47425 10FuBar_ArenaFu/ (3 files): FuBar_ArenaFu - add func to show detail arena team info |
05:05.07 | TNSe | "Major Troll's Blood Potion of the Prophet." |
05:05.16 | TNSe | can't believe blizz hasn't fixed that bug yet |
05:06.47 | art3mis | what bug? |
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05:12.04 | Antiarc | Yes, it does |
05:12.07 | Antiarc | Still working on it :) |
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05:17.47 | jellywerker | hello all |
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05:22.35 | TNSe | art3mis, if you link a 'of the' gear |
05:22.47 | TNSe | and then link a recipe, you will see the recipe having 'of the' as well |
05:22.49 | TNSe | looks kinda weird :P |
05:24.14 | ckknight | [Cock of Your Mom] |
05:24.18 | ckknight | sorry, I had to |
05:26.02 | NightHawkTheSane | I cocked your mom. |
05:26.33 | NightHawkTheSane | (i'm not sorry, and I didn't have to.) |
05:26.35 | Sole | hmm |
05:26.57 | Sole | so Ive got 3.5 essays to write by tomorow. Wonder if its worth starting anymore. |
05:27.08 | NightHawkTheSane | .5? |
05:27.14 | Sole | Ive done half of 1 |
05:27.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: finish it, then turn that one in forthe other three as well |
05:27.36 | Sole | NightHawkTheSane: thats a plan! |
05:28.17 | NightHawkTheSane | if your teachers ask, tell them it's an exercise in efficiency and optimization algorithms! |
05:28.27 | NightHawkTheSane | "General Hammond, request permission to beat the crap out of this man!" |
05:28.33 | Sole | hahaha |
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05:32.16 | TNSe | kay, so fel reavers are soloable by warriors :/ |
05:32.58 | NightHawkTheSane | TNSe: i don't see why not? they don't have special abilities, so once your gear progresses enough *shrug* |
05:34.20 | Mecdemort | is there a way to call tostring on a table without calling its __tostring() ? |
05:35.00 | ckknight | no, there's sadly no rawtostring |
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05:35.14 | ckknight | you want to get the "table: 0x52346245" thing, right? |
05:35.19 | Mecdemort | yes |
05:35.27 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten * r47426 10LibStub/ (LibStub.lua LibStub.toc): |
05:35.27 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-13 LS-15 |
05:35.27 | CIA-14 | - Shifted Error messages to asserts. |
05:35.27 | CIA-14 | - Supports Revision string minor version numbers in much less code. |
05:36.13 | ckknight | Kaelten: bah, I still think it should be taken out |
05:36.14 | ckknight | :-P |
05:36.15 | ckknight | oh well |
05:36.44 | Kaelten | its 1 line now but if we all come to that consensus we can take it out |
05:36.57 | TNSe | NightHawkTheSane, indeed. Blocked all the damage, permanent shieldwall >_< |
05:37.36 | Mecdemort | ckknight: so there's no way to get that? |
05:37.49 | ckknight | Mecdemort: there is, with this: |
05:37.54 | ckknight | hax |
05:37.58 | Mecdemort | lol |
05:38.17 | Kaelten | ckknight: on the plus side my changes dropped it down to 77 lines with no change in functionality |
05:38.31 | ckknight | local function rawtostring(t) local mt = getmetatable(t); setmetatable(t, nil); local s = tostring(t); setmetatable(t, mt); return s end |
05:38.35 | fireglow | anyone need some en->de translations? |
05:38.37 | Kaelten | and there are still good error messages, you just need a traceback to 100% know what they mean |
05:38.39 | ckknight | Kaelten: my general point is that the functionality is not required |
05:39.02 | Mecdemort | assuming they didnt lock their metatable tho |
05:39.10 | Kaelten | ya, I'm not going to lock the ticket |
05:39.13 | Kaelten | er close |
05:39.24 | ckknight | okay |
05:39.30 | ckknight | well, LS-15 can close, though |
05:39.38 | ckknight | just not LS-13 |
05:42.48 | NightHawkTheSane | "You know, Harry. It's not that I can't believe you lied to me, again. It's that you LIED TO ME. AGAIN." |
05:43.14 | ckknight | ? |
05:43.22 | Antiarc | \/join #wowace-cia |
05:43.25 | ckknight | spoiler alert! |
05:43.33 | ckknight | Raptor Jesus kills Harry pg 719 |
05:44.34 | CIA-14 | 03antiarc * r47427 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Made a number of fixes, including prioritzation of comm messages which should fix the "disappearing tank" error. |
05:44.37 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47428 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add a check to whether the method exists in the validation. |
05:44.43 | kb1ibt | ckknight: nice spoiler |
05:44.48 | ckknight | :-P |
05:44.53 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten * r47429 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
05:44.53 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-10 |
05:44.53 | CIA-14 | - Added :IterateLibraries() |
05:45.11 | Mecdemort | NightHawkTheSane: whats that from? |
05:45.16 | NightHawkTheSane | sg-1 |
05:45.32 | Mecdemort | ah on the paradise planet? |
05:45.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
05:45.45 | ckknight | Kaelten: yays |
05:46.34 | Kaelten | check out that code and make sure its what you where looking for |
05:49.24 | TNSe | Antiarc? How can you fix the issue with shadowfiends never disappearing from the global threat list? :P |
05:49.45 | Antiarc | TNSe: It's a problem that needs deeper investigation, but I band-aided it at least |
05:50.04 | Antiarc | It's not a perfect solution, but it's workable while I find the problem |
05:50.09 | Antiarc | And it solves a number of other problems too |
05:50.21 | TNSe | we've been trying omen lately |
05:50.36 | TNSe | but the built-in aggro @ 90% thing annoyed a lot of people :P |
05:51.02 | Antiarc | That's configurable, and can be turned off |
05:51.09 | Antiarc | Omen menu -> warnings |
05:51.34 | TNSe | yeah, I told them, but these are people who are used to installing addons and never touching an option :P |
05:52.55 | TNSe | tried omen both as shadowpriest and shaman |
05:53.01 | TNSe | 2 classes that like to live on the edge |
05:53.06 | TNSe | and its worked pretty good |
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05:53.37 | Antiarc | It isn't perfect, but at least it's getting better :D |
05:55.15 | TNSe | I like it |
05:55.32 | TNSe | but there is the issue with multiple mobs named the same |
05:55.55 | TNSe | and unfortunately I don't have any good ideas on how to deal with it :P |
05:56.02 | Antiarc | There is no way till 2.4 |
05:56.24 | TNSe | so blizzard is going to help you? |
05:56.42 | Antiarc | yes, they're giving us unique mob IDs |
05:56.43 | NightHawkTheSane | blizzard announced changes to the combat log that would let a mod uniquely identify mobs |
05:57.00 | TNSe | wow |
05:57.12 | TNSe | so I guess blizzard has decided to go with the flow isntead of against the flow |
05:57.22 | TNSe | with decursive they went the other way :P |
05:57.57 | CIA-14 | 03kunda * r47430 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: deDE update |
05:58.00 | TNSe | then again, so many fights are so threat sensitive that not knowing threat adds a 'random' factor that sometimes is really hard to handle. |
05:58.19 | Antiarc | They basically don't want mods that make decisions for you |
05:58.29 | Antiarc | Mods that give you info to let you make decisions are fine |
05:58.39 | TNSe | great |
05:58.47 | TNSe | thats really good news |
05:59.01 | TNSe | then threat will be pretty much perfect :D |
05:59.15 | Antiarc | Well, good enough for government work anyway :) |
05:59.58 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i believe they also mentioned implementing a built in threat meter in the next expansion, which would probably expose threat values to the client.. |
06:00.07 | NightHawkTheSane | so at that point it would be perfect. :P |
06:00.13 | Antiarc | I believe it is going to be a green-yellow-red thing |
06:00.16 | Antiarc | Nothing specific |
06:00.29 | NightHawkTheSane | could be |
06:00.33 | Antiarc | They've said that it won't replace KTM/Omen, but will provide usable threat readings to all raiders |
06:01.00 | TNSe | guess thats good |
06:01.33 | TNSe | as ele shammy and shadow priest I'm very dependant on accurate threat meters :P |
06:02.31 | TNSe | especially as ele shammy, or my ank goes on cd >_< |
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06:05.20 | CIA-14 | 03antiarc * r47431 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatKLHTMSupport.lua): Threat-1.0: Make non-high-priority messages NORMAL rather than ALERT. Make KTM output ALERT to match Threat's THREAT_UPDATE messages. |
06:06.01 | ckknight | so you know, Antiarc, if you send on two different priorities, they may come out of order |
06:06.09 | Antiarc | That's fine |
06:06.17 | Antiarc | Threat updates aren't reliant on sequence |
06:06.19 | ckknight | e.g. send ALERT, NORMAL, ALERT. receive ALERT, ALERT, NORMAL |
06:06.27 | Antiarc | And I'm non-prioritizing things like version queries |
06:06.29 | ckknight | but that's relatively obvious :-P |
06:06.32 | ckknight | okay |
06:06.35 | Antiarc | Combat-time updates are ALERT |
06:06.35 | ckknight | good stuff |
06:09.59 | NightHawkTheSane | "I think you suffered enough. Hell, I even got to shoot you." "Twice!" |
06:15.13 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r47432 10FuBar_ArenaFu/ (FuBar_ArenaFu.toc FuBar_ArenaFuOptions.lua): FuBar_ArenaFu - toc version change, update FuBar_ArenaFuOptions.lua |
06:17.19 | Gngsk | [Ammo], ping |
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06:52.00 | [Ammo] | Gngsk: pong |
06:53.58 | Gngsk | hey, I was wondering a few things about the ora zone check |
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06:54.13 | Gngsk | when you refresh, it resorts. would it be possible to have it stay sorted |
06:54.27 | Gngsk | and an option to filter groups, for instance just groups 1-5 or 1 and 2 |
06:54.33 | [Ammo] | I did not add sort remembring |
06:54.52 | [Ammo] | and filters naah |
06:54.53 | [Ammo] | too much |
06:54.55 | Gngsk | k, I didn't check commit log to see who did what |
06:55.02 | [Ammo] | no I mean |
06:55.07 | [Ammo] | I added sorting |
06:55.11 | [Ammo] | but not remembering of thesort |
06:55.15 | [Ammo] | since the window is reused |
06:55.20 | Gngsk | yeah that's what I meant |
06:55.28 | Gngsk | it gets annoying having to resort after every refresh |
06:56.24 | [Ammo] | yeah well, I could add some form of remembering |
06:56.45 | [Ammo] | but that woud be reset if you do another check |
06:56.54 | [Ammo] | I'll add it to my todo |
06:57.02 | Gngsk | awesome, thanks |
06:58.26 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r47433 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
06:58.26 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS |
06:58.26 | CIA-14 | - spaces -> tabs |
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07:00.25 | Wobin | !c us argent dawn silentfang |
07:00.34 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Silentfang, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (19/5/37). 9711 HP; 7048 Mana; 112 mana regen; 15 mp5; 5263 Armour; 1446 AP; 210.6 Melee DPS; 17.74% melee crit; 59 melee hit; 1377 RAP; 242 Ranged DPS; 22.74% ranged crit; 59 ranged hit; 16.15% dodge; 15 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +27 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 2641 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2y5mss ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pumgn ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 03:10:21 2007 |
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07:06.48 | Fisker- | !c eu ravencrest Fiskerdin |
07:06.57 | ThraeBot | Fisker-: Fiskerdin, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (50/11/0). 7587 HP; 10128 Mana; 251 mana regen; 170 mp5; 11665 Armour; 72.5 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 38 spell crit; 173 +spell dmg; 1596 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5% block;[[ TBR: 2135 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fxwx5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36pvlx ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 03:16:44 2007 ]] |
07:07.28 | Fisker- | Thrae you here? |
07:07.35 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r47434 10NBuffBars/NBuffBars.lua: (log message trimmed) |
07:07.35 | CIA-14 | NBuffBars: |
07:07.35 | CIA-14 | - bugfix: position saving after reset |
07:07.35 | CIA-14 | - bugfix: unit / pet death during combat problems resolved |
07:07.35 | CIA-14 | - bugfix: entering world / enabling addon during combat |
07:07.36 | CIA-14 | - bugfix: show proper icon / text on fubar when enabled when not showing solo |
07:07.38 | CIA-14 | - tune colours more |
07:07.46 | Fisker- | wut's this? |
07:07.52 | Fisker- | oh |
07:07.53 | Fisker- | buffbars |
07:07.56 | Fisker- | do not want |
07:08.11 | TNSe | <3 chain lightning, 2 hunterbots instagibbed |
07:08.16 | ckknight | he misspelled "colors" |
07:08.29 | TNSe | he's just british |
07:08.44 | Fisker- | ^^ |
07:08.50 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r47435 10NBuffBars/NBuffBars.lua: NBuffBars: turn off debugging |
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07:12.51 | Fisker- | my cat is an OH U cat :/ |
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07:17.01 | daemoen | hey guys, anyone else in here running wow in wine with an ati card? |
07:18.44 | Kaelten | gods, I keep staring at libstub |
07:18.48 | Kaelten | I'm down to 54 lines |
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07:40.58 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten * r47436 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
07:40.58 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-14 LS-11 LS-12 LS-13 LS-15 |
07:40.59 | CIA-14 | - Drop of callback support |
07:40.59 | CIA-14 | - Reworks and tweaks, line count at 50 |
07:40.59 | CIA-14 | - Dropped some of the error messages. |
07:40.59 | CIA-14 | - Split up internal registry |
07:41.48 | Fisker- | :D? |
07:41.52 | Fisker- | wuts this? |
07:44.13 | ckknight | I do believe it's a sophisticated method of having sex with your mother, Fisker- |
07:44.26 | Kaelten | Fisker-: LibStub? |
07:48.50 | Fisker- | yeah |
07:48.57 | Fisker- | i believe you are right ckknight |
07:49.14 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten * r47437 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
07:49.14 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS- |
07:49.14 | CIA-14 | - changed spaces to tabs |
07:49.29 | Kaelten | Fisker-: its a versioning stub |
07:49.34 | Kaelten | super minimalistic |
07:49.51 | Fisker- | oh to handle loading and unloading of libraries? |
07:50.03 | ckknight | loading and upgrading, mostly |
07:50.39 | orionshock | ? how do you unload a lib inside wow, unless your implying that your reloading the ui? |
07:51.27 | ckknight | simple, orionshock |
07:51.29 | ckknight | magic. |
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07:51.36 | Gngsk | or so it would seem! |
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07:51.41 | orionshock | lol, magic indeed |
07:51.48 | Gngsk | force gc? |
07:54.28 | ckknight | depends on how the libraries are stored |
07:55.29 | Mecdemort | death by snu snu! |
07:55.35 | ckknight | lol |
07:56.12 | Fisker- | SNU SNU! |
07:56.13 | Administrator | is there an event that triggers when a player moves/changes coordinates? |
07:56.30 | nevcairiel | no |
07:56.33 | Mecdemort | great futurama marathon on |
07:56.34 | nevcairiel | only when you change zones |
07:56.44 | ckknight | The spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised! |
07:56.48 | Jazradel | thanks, guess i just have to do it OnUpdate |
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07:56.59 | ckknight | no, Jazradel, jusr OnUpdate |
07:57.00 | Mecdemort | lol |
07:57.05 | Gngsk | snu snu ftw |
07:57.17 | cncfanatics | yo all |
07:57.20 | Mecdemort | i never thought i'd die like this, but i'd always imagined it! |
07:57.56 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten * r47438 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
07:57.56 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS- |
07:57.56 | CIA-14 | - Improved error message inside of GetLibrary |
07:58.38 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten * r47439 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
07:58.38 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS- |
07:58.38 | CIA-14 | - bah damned spaces |
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07:59.53 | cncfanatics | long live Kaelten and his spaces :p |
08:00.02 | Kaelten | lol |
08:00.53 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r47440 10NBuffBars/NBuffBars.lua: NBuffBars: bugfix: cached changes won't be applied if there were no changes during combat |
08:01.46 | Kaelten | I can get it down to 25 lines when I drop all the blank lines and comments |
08:03.53 | cncfanatics | meh, I can half the amount of code I have if I remove all comments now |
08:04.10 | ckknight | half isn't a verb |
08:04.11 | Fisker- | real programming languages can be cut down to one line |
08:04.11 | Fisker- | :P |
08:04.18 | ckknight | halve is |
08:04.29 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel * r47441 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
08:04.29 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-8 |
08:04.29 | CIA-14 | - some indentation and wording changes |
08:04.29 | CIA-14 | - keep the newline at eof ffs :P |
08:07.46 | CIA-14 | 03bam * r47442 10ItemPriceTooltip/ItemPriceTooltip.lua: |
08:07.46 | CIA-14 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
08:07.46 | CIA-14 | - Updated locale deDE (Farook) |
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08:10.48 | cncfanatics | Fisker- |
08:10.58 | cncfanatics | I invite you to convert whole FlexBar2 to a one-liner :) |
08:11.13 | nevcairiel | just run an s/\n/;/ |
08:11.31 | nevcairiel | well ok that would prolly break stuff |
08:11.34 | nevcairiel | but you get the idea :P |
08:12.23 | ckknight | actually s/\n/ / would work |
08:12.34 | ckknight | whitespaces are all alike in lua |
08:12.34 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47443 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealth.lua: |
08:12.34 | CIA-14 | OnScreenHealth: |
08:12.34 | CIA-14 | - Fixed non-player ToT names |
08:13.05 | Kaelten | anywho guys I'm going to bed |
08:13.11 | nevcairiel | 'nite |
08:13.12 | Kaelten | I've tortured the poor stub enough for one nice |
08:13.14 | Kaelten | er nite |
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08:17.31 | orionshock | Urg... datamining the armory takes for ever |
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08:20.09 | cncfanatics | orionshock, did u test FB again with states ? |
08:20.34 | orionshock | ive been AFK all day moving shit @ parents house |
08:20.56 | orionshock | and as soon as the dataminer for Misry-EU is done i'll log back into wow |
08:21.23 | orionshock | its @ 3019 / 4980 in the 3v3 bracket |
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08:27.32 | Mecdemort | what is the point of the TEXT function and doing TEXT(ACCEPT) when ACCEPT =-= TEXT(ACCEPT) |
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08:27.36 | Mecdemort | ==* |
08:28.32 | cryogen | isnt that a localisation thing? |
08:29.40 | Mecdemort | hmm could be |
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08:41.42 | Xinhuan | [8/26 16:26:30] <Mecdemort> what is the point of the TEXT function and doing TEXT(ACCEPT) when ACCEPT =-= TEXT(ACCEPT) |
08:41.46 | Xinhuan | its for localization |
08:41.54 | Xinhuan | and the TEXT function has been deprecated |
08:41.59 | Xinhuan | but its just there |
08:42.04 | Xinhuan | in case old addons use it |
08:42.14 | Mecdemort | so just use the strings? |
08:42.16 | Xinhuan | ya |
08:42.22 | Mecdemort | thought so |
08:42.27 | Xinhuan | you can find the TEXT() function defined in umm |
08:42.58 | Xinhuan | trying to remember |
08:42.59 | Mecdemort | meh dont worry about it |
08:43.26 | Mecdemort | i got bigger fish to fry, im making a staticPopupDialog, but the text box and okay button are ontop of eachother |
08:43.29 | Xinhuan | BasicControls.xml |
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08:43.43 | Xinhuan | the function is defined as |
08:43.44 | Xinhuan | function TEXT(text) |
08:43.45 | Xinhuan | return text; |
08:43.45 | Xinhuan | end |
08:43.48 | Xinhuan | that's it |
08:44.11 | Xinhuan | so no point using it |
08:44.47 | Xinhuan | use one of the existing popupdialogs, copy and modify it |
08:46.47 | cncfanatics | how is the string method called again to replace %s and stuff ? |
08:47.05 | Mecdemort | ? |
08:47.07 | ckknight | cncfanatics: :format |
08:47.29 | cncfanatics | thanks ckknight, I always forget that name |
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08:49.49 | Mecdemort | ahhhh why does it overlap |
08:50.49 | cncfanatics | "it has little or no use in addon programming" lol |
08:50.56 | cncfanatics | about :format on wowwiki |
08:51.04 | cncfanatics | its fucking usefull for pre-parsing stuff |
08:51.14 | Mecdemort | i cant think of 1 addon that doesnt use it |
08:51.18 | Xinhuan | probably a hater wrote that |
08:53.38 | ckknight | yea, a hater, most likely |
08:53.39 | ckknight | it's extremely useful. |
08:54.05 | cncfanatics | my text sub engine is starting to take form :) |
08:54.14 | CIA-14 | 03wiebbe * r47444 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.toc: BossWhisperer: - Added saved variables to the ToC to save settings.. |
08:54.58 | ckknight | I'm watching Real Time S06E01 |
08:55.05 | ckknight | *sigh* I used to like Tim Robbins |
08:55.57 | Mecdemort | wow why doesnt this work with default blizzard values! |
08:56.40 | ckknight | why doesn't what work? |
08:56.56 | Mecdemort | StaticPopupDialogs with 1 button and an edit box |
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08:57.30 | Xinhuan | what are you wanting to get? |
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08:57.50 | Mecdemort | just have it display without overlapping |
08:57.52 | Mecdemort | but i guess ill just move the stuff |
08:57.58 | Xinhuan | how many buttons i mean? |
08:58.37 | Xinhuan | you aren't very clear on what you want |
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08:59.23 | Mecdemort | a popup that has an edit box (to put copyable text in) and 1 OKAY button |
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09:00.01 | Xinhuan | you don't want a CANCEL button too? |
09:00.28 | ckknight | Mecdemort: steal code from Prat. |
09:00.35 | ckknight | Prat's url thingy |
09:00.36 | Mecdemort | naw, and thats what im doing right now :D |
09:01.24 | Xinhuan | if you dont want a 2nd button, button2 should be nil |
09:01.28 | CIA-14 | 03mikk * r47445 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
09:01.28 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-15 |
09:01.28 | CIA-14 | - Optimize errorchecking further |
09:01.28 | CIA-14 | - Optimize initialization a bit more |
09:02.00 | Xinhuan | in your staticdialog |
09:02.02 | Xinhuan | its that simple |
09:02.24 | Xinhuan | and the blizzard code will automatically center button1 and hide button2 |
09:03.03 | orionshock | question to the regulars here, does Nymbia every come on to IRC? |
09:03.16 | Xinhuan | ~seen Nymbia |
09:03.27 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-149-62.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 6m 41s ago, saying: 'rofl'. |
09:03.27 | Mecdemort | it centers it nicely, but when you add an EditBox it overlaps the button |
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09:03.46 | orionshock | interesting |
09:04.11 | orionshock | purl - how did u do that? |
09:04.23 | Xinhuan | button1:SetPoint("TOP", text, "BOTTOM", 0, -8); |
09:04.29 | Xinhuan | is the code in blizzard's function |
09:04.34 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47446 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: LibStub - small optimization. |
09:04.40 | Xinhuan | that centers the button1 |
09:05.06 | Mecdemort | im just unceremoniously ripping Prat's URL apart |
09:05.14 | ckknight | not sure why `not self.libs[major or "nil"]` wasn't just `not self.libs[major]`, seeing as doing the or "nil" accomplishes nothing, really |
09:05.23 | ckknight | since t[nil] == nil |
09:06.05 | Xinhuan | the "nil" is a string |
09:06.08 | Mecdemort | some weird metatable that wants "nil" instead of nil? |
09:06.09 | Xinhuan | not the nil value |
09:06.32 | ckknight | no metatable, Mecdemort |
09:06.37 | ckknight | I know, Xinhuan |
09:06.41 | ckknight | thus I said t[nil] == nil |
09:06.43 | ckknight | always |
09:06.49 | ckknight | (unless there's a funky __index) |
09:06.55 | Mecdemort | does self.libs["nil"] exist? |
09:06.58 | Xinhuan | but its not t[nil].. its t["nil"] |
09:07.14 | ckknight | it could, but if that were true, the library would be wrong |
09:07.18 | ckknight | well, the stub |
09:07.29 | Xinhuan | maybe he had soemthing in mind for it |
09:07.35 | ckknight | no, he didn't. |
09:07.41 | ckknight | I'm quite sure of it |
09:07.53 | Nickenyfiken | hehehehe |
09:08.54 | Xinhuan | self.libs[major] would throw an error if major == nil |
09:09.02 | Xinhuan | self.libs[major or "nil"] wouldn't throw an error |
09:09.18 | Xinhuan | that's about the only difference i can think of |
09:09.56 | ckknight | wrong, Xinhuan |
09:09.56 | ckknight | errors are not thrown if the key is nil |
09:09.56 | ckknight | it just returns nil |
09:10.01 | Xinhuan | you sure? |
09:10.02 | ckknight | this is lua |
09:10.14 | Xinhuan | i always get nil errors when accessing nil index |
09:10.19 | Xinhuan | on tables |
09:10.40 | ckknight | but not from accessing them as nils, you get them from accessing subkeys of the nil, which is bad |
09:13.03 | Xinhuan | "local a = {}; local b = nil; a[b] = 5;" --> "table index is nil" error |
09:13.18 | ckknight | yes |
09:13.26 | ckknight | because __newindex doesn't work when the key is nil |
09:13.40 | Nargiddley | thats trying to assign to the nil key |
09:13.47 | Xinhuan | hmm |
09:13.48 | ckknight | but try "local a = {}; local b = nil; local x = a[b]" |
09:13.51 | ckknight | no error. |
09:13.51 | Nargiddley | > x = {} print(x[nil]) |
09:13.51 | Nargiddley | nil |
09:13.59 | Xinhuan | ok trying that |
09:14.07 | Xinhuan | that's a pretty subtle difference |
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09:14.46 | Xinhuan | learnt something new today :) |
09:15.08 | pb_ee1 | Heya. |
09:15.41 | pb_ee1 | Is there ane of the devs of WAU around here? |
09:15.46 | pb_ee1 | -a+o |
09:16.15 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar is afk, so i think not |
09:18.23 | pb_ee1 | Ho, at least i've got the name |
09:18.45 | pb_ee1 | He should modify the place where the program starts |
09:20.04 | Silviu- | What is LibStub ? ;) |
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09:21.19 | pb_ee1 | Stub... this word reminds me someone |
09:21.21 | pb_ee1 | :p |
09:21.40 | ckknight | I'm reminded of chinese factory workers |
09:22.32 | pb_ee1 | Chinese factory workers? |
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09:22.51 | ckknight | machines in factories in China have no kill switches |
09:23.03 | ckknight | so if somebody gets an arm caught in the machine, there's no way to turn it off |
09:23.04 | pb_ee1 | Actually it was not you ckknight ;) |
09:23.21 | ckknight | therefore, you then have a stub for an arm |
09:23.32 | pb_ee1 | lol |
09:23.33 | Mecdemort | hmm |
09:23.50 | Mecdemort | i want to laugh but i cant bring myself to do it |
09:24.23 | ckknight | don't worry, I can laugh |
09:24.28 | ckknight | but then am sad again |
09:24.29 | cncfanatics | self.TextFields[Field]:SetText(string.format(SubInfo.ParsedText, unpack(SubInfo.SubCache))); |
09:24.35 | ckknight | because they poison us with lead. |
09:24.35 | cncfanatics | lovely line of code that does fucking lots of things :) |
09:24.46 | pb_ee1 | what's that cncfanatics? |
09:24.49 | ckknight | cncfanatics: I prefer using colon syntax for format |
09:24.58 | cncfanatics | ckknight, how so ? |
09:25.15 | ckknight | SubInfo.ParsedText:format(unpack(SubInfo.SubCache)) |
09:25.27 | cncfanatics | ah, yea, I usualy do too |
09:25.37 | cncfanatics | shorter and clearer indeed |
09:25.46 | Mecdemort | ya |
09:25.51 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, SubCache is a sub of results of what text sub functions gave me |
09:25.54 | cncfanatics | I unpack it |
09:25.57 | Mecdemort | i just wish you could do "str":format() instead of ("str"):format() |
09:26.09 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, you can ? |
09:26.21 | Mecdemort | not in my world :*( |
09:26.24 | cncfanatics | and each time one changes, it will be formatted again |
09:26.41 | pb_ee1 | Wow, seems cool, but I don't understand what it is used for ^^ Nevermind, i'll have time to see it in action I suppose |
09:26.58 | cncfanatics | text substitution system pretty much |
09:27.07 | cncfanatics | thats what "refreshes" the text |
09:27.57 | pb_ee1 | Ho I see |
09:28.18 | pb_ee1 | Do you have an actual example of what you could do with it? |
09:28.36 | pb_ee1 | I've got some ideas but I surely miss something |
09:29.23 | cncfanatics | you have 5 text fields |
09:29.49 | cncfanatics | 1: TOPLEFT, 2: TOPRIGHT, 3: BOTTOMRIGHT, 4: BOTTOMLEFT, 5: CENTER |
09:30.06 | cncfanatics | if I setted the 5th text field to $(cooldown) or $(cd) (either will do) |
09:30.15 | cncfanatics | then u'll have a pretty cooldown count on the center of ur button |
09:30.33 | cncfanatics | I'd probably also set $(keybind) on the first field |
09:30.38 | Mecdemort | getglobal is equal to _G[var] right? |
09:30.46 | cncfanatics | and $(itemcount) on the third |
09:30.53 | cncfanatics | and u'd get a nice button with all needed text |
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09:32.25 | pb_ee1 | impressive, cncfanatics |
09:33.09 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1; just a recode of the old fb text sub system, in better |
09:33.37 | pb_ee1 | is the fb text system used bu quartz? |
09:33.42 | pb_ee1 | </bu/by |
09:33.46 | cncfanatics | not that I know of |
09:34.03 | Laric | is the ace2 refactor branch usable as 'plugin-replacement' of ace2? or is it not binary compatible? |
09:34.18 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, what kind of subs does quartz use ? |
09:34.46 | pb_ee1 | I'll wait until an addon using subcache is release, because I still don't get it entirely ;p |
09:35.37 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, dogtags ? |
09:35.41 | cncfanatics | except its more advanced |
09:35.43 | pb_ee1 | Ha ok, now i understand. No, I don't know what kind of subs is using quartz |
09:35.47 | pb_ee1 | is used by * |
09:35.59 | pb_ee1 | yeah, dogtag is a good example i suppose |
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09:39.04 | cncfanatics | now, time to go play total annihilation |
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09:46.02 | CIA-14 | 03somerset * r47447 10ChanList/ChanList.lua: |
09:46.02 | CIA-14 | ChanList |
09:46.02 | CIA-14 | - fixed loading WhoLib |
09:47.45 | CIA-14 | 03somerset * r47448 10ChanList/ChanList.lua: |
09:47.45 | CIA-14 | ChanList |
09:47.45 | CIA-14 | - removed debugging output |
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09:59.56 | orionshock | is there an eazy way of getting the right click menu of a given note in cartographer? |
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10:04.36 | pb_ee1 | why does this produces an error? --> self:AddMsgToTable(t, { 'msg' = " " } ) |
10:04.47 | pb_ee1 | AddMsgToTable is a valid function |
10:04.56 | orionshock | of? |
10:05.08 | pb_ee1 | '}' expected near '=' |
10:05.22 | nevcairiel | it has to be msg = "" or ['msg'] = "" |
10:05.45 | pb_ee1 | well i'd like to pass a table to AddMsgToTable |
10:06.16 | nevcairiel | self:AddMsgToTable(t, { msg = " " } ) |
10:06.24 | nevcairiel | just remove the quotes |
10:06.29 | pb_ee1 | ho ok found it |
10:06.40 | pb_ee1 | it should be { ['msg'] = "" } |
10:06.43 | pb_ee1 | thanks nevcairiel |
10:08.52 | Sole | I have read the above problem and I concur |
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10:14.22 | yoshimo | i just wondered, why threat isn't updated evry 2 minutes anymore :) |
10:14.35 | Arrowmaster | anti got a real job |
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10:21.11 | Fisker- | lets get him fired by sending nudes of Antiar1 to his boss |
10:21.14 | Fisker- | -1+c |
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10:29.03 | Arrowmaster | that would be ammusing since hes working for himself now |
10:31.10 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
10:35.25 | Mecdemort | hmm is there any ctrl-breaking wow? |
10:38.51 | Mecdemort | i did a bad bad thing |
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10:59.22 | CIA-14 | 03poull * r47449 10SmartRes/ (5 files): SmartRes: Removed alpha setting and updated DE and CH localization. |
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11:16.26 | Mecdemort | i sware closures still mystify me |
11:17.49 | Nargiddley | what about them ? |
11:18.24 | Mecdemort | well i've got this one, but if it's called twice then the first one behaves like the 2nd one too |
11:18.59 | Nargiddley | is the function keyword executed in both ? |
11:19.21 | Mecdemort | ? |
11:19.34 | Nargiddley | pastey the code |
11:21.02 | Mecdemort | http://ace.pastey.net/72762 |
11:22.34 | Nargiddley | they both act like they have the same arg1 ? |
11:22.54 | Mecdemort | ya the 2 tablets open but when i try to close either it tries to close just the 2nd one |
11:23.12 | Mecdemort | tho actually with the current setup i pastied, arg1 is nil |
11:23.13 | Nargiddley | when the function keyword gets executed |
11:23.20 | Nargiddley | it creates the closure |
11:23.49 | Nargiddley | and any variables visible at that point and referenced by the function become part of the closure |
11:24.01 | Nargiddley | is arg1 the global that bliz sets ? |
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11:24.26 | Mecdemort | no im trying to pass it in since a closure of just the values didnt seem to be working |
11:24.41 | Nargiddley | ok |
11:24.48 | Nargiddley | is that tstr |
11:24.52 | Mecdemort | yes |
11:25.04 | Mecdemort | thats the dummy name im passing to the tablet register |
11:25.33 | Nargiddley | i can't tell whats happening from that code :/ |
11:26.03 | Mecdemort | ya im just going to make a local function outside and just pass it in and use the argN values you can pass |
11:28.32 | Mecdemort | ah i think the second function should just be function() in that pastey |
11:29.13 | Nargiddley | hm |
11:29.52 | Mecdemort | think i got it |
11:30.13 | Mecdemort | or not |
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11:31.53 | Mecdemort | i dont get it |
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11:37.36 | Nargiddley | if you want to pastey more of the code i can try to spot whats going wrong |
11:38.23 | Mecdemort | sure |
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11:41.49 | Fisker- | btw |
11:41.58 | Fisker- | wasn't there some people modifying and improving grid unofficially? |
11:43.32 | Diao | O: |
11:44.08 | Mecdemort | http://ace.pastey.net/72764 |
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11:45.02 | Mecdemort | hmm maybe opening requires the same sort of thing as closing, i might have to schedule an event and try that |
11:45.10 | swayenvoy | Hello ther |
11:45.18 | swayenvoy | +e |
11:45.20 | Nargiddley | for a start local tstr |
11:45.46 | swayenvoy | Anyone can give me a short guide to dewdrop |
11:46.08 | Mecdemort | gahhhhhhh |
11:46.33 | Nargiddley | looking at it thats the prob :P |
11:46.40 | Mecdemort | wow |
11:47.06 | swayenvoy | I want to build a classical dropdown field and insert text values to it |
11:47.23 | Mecdemort | time to go find that tweak that warns when you accidentally introduce a global |
11:47.32 | swayenvoy | and don't know how to get started with dewdrop |
11:47.53 | Mecdemort | swayenvoy: you're best bet is to check an addon that uses FubarPlugin and see how it does the right-click menu |
11:48.10 | Nargiddley | alot of those will just be aceoptions tables |
11:48.58 | swayenvoy | so i want do display a list of items in it which i get via the loot api |
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11:49.13 | swayenvoy | I should fill this items to a aceoptions table |
11:49.14 | Mecdemort | in anycase do you think its better to make a closure or use a function like i currently have? |
11:50.24 | Nargiddley | i generally avoid closures unless needed |
11:50.34 | Mecdemort | ya i thought so |
11:50.54 | Mecdemort | they're fun, but nag at me when they're in for loops |
11:50.59 | Nargiddley | if its going to be run once, its not worth changing tho |
11:52.12 | Mecdemort | once per every time you look at something new |
11:54.47 | swayenvoy | don't see how the rightclick menu of a fubarplugin may help me to build something like the dropdowns in the characterframe |
11:55.17 | Mecdemort | right click of fubar is all dewdrops |
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11:56.15 | swayenvoy | ah k |
11:56.23 | swayenvoy | may have a look at this |
11:57.20 | swayenvoy | maybe it's easyer to build the dropdown with api? |
11:57.54 | Mecdemort | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DewdropLib |
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12:03.00 | Mecdemort | where's Tablet-2.0 hiding on the svn? |
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12:03.52 | Nargiddley | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/ |
12:04.06 | Mecdemort | ah TabletLib |
12:08.59 | Mecdemort | what's the standard for which to put in OptionalDeps and X-Embeds? |
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12:09.30 | nevcairiel | only Ace2 should be optional deps |
12:09.36 | nevcairiel | everything else X-Embeds |
12:10.23 | Mecdemort | would i put TabletLib or Tablet-2.0 |
12:10.36 | orionshock | tbh, doing that IMHO is kinda broke |
12:10.46 | Nargiddley | how so ? |
12:11.02 | orionshock | your addon cannot function with out the libs included |
12:11.10 | nevcairiel | so? |
12:11.21 | orionshock | so if they are not included they are in fact dependancys |
12:11.22 | Nargiddley | AceLibrary will load them if they exist standalone, the dep isnt needed |
12:11.42 | nevcairiel | but we can only have one .toc |
12:11.52 | nevcairiel | which is designed for embeded mode |
12:12.06 | orionshock | but because they are often included, it's imho better to say they are optional dependancys |
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12:12.35 | Nargiddley | that forces them to load before the addon, not at time of first use |
12:12.51 | orionshock | true, but is that really a problem? |
12:13.08 | Nargiddley | it can be for some of the large database libs |
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12:13.21 | orionshock | in the grand scheme of things is that an issue, it's gona get loaded one way or the other |
12:14.08 | Nargiddley | why force them to load if its not needed, AceLibrary takes care of loading libs if they exist standalone |
12:14.13 | nevcairiel | but it could potentally cut down login time |
12:14.15 | Mecdemort | SUCCESS |
12:14.19 | nevcairiel | which is a bonus :P |
12:14.45 | orionshock | ok so if im hearing this right, its the differnce of being rough with the program vs white glove effect? |
12:15.20 | orionshock | if that's what ur saying it's a bad argument |
12:15.39 | Borked|Raider | anyone fast at math? lets say a boss have 3k armor after all debuffs. what dmg increase % will 500 less armor mean? |
12:16.18 | Nargiddley | orionshock, what is the advantage of setting them as an OptDep ? |
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12:16.56 | orionshock | easier to resolve, granted by hand, what libs are needed when doing premade packages |
12:17.05 | Nargiddley | no its not |
12:17.25 | Nargiddley | cause an OptDep might not be a lib, it might be a genuine Optional Dependency |
12:17.32 | nevcairiel | you can check the X-Embeds if you really need to know that |
12:17.48 | orionshock | easier to determine what libs to enable in the load screen as they are listed on the tool tip ; trust me my argument for it is equaly as bad if not worse |
12:18.00 | nevcairiel | you dont need to enable any libs |
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12:18.04 | Nargiddley | you dont need to enable libs, AceLibrary takes care of it |
12:18.04 | nevcairiel | AceLibrary will do that for you |
12:18.33 | orionshock | right... |
12:19.45 | orionshock | my main point was that the given addon is infact dysfunctional and incomplete with out the libs, embedded or not ; technicly they would belong added as an Opt Dep |
12:20.04 | nevcairiel | they are not Optional |
12:20.07 | Nargiddley | its not an Optional Dependency |
12:20.12 | nevcairiel | technically you need 2 .tocs |
12:20.15 | nevcairiel | one for running Embed |
12:20.17 | nevcairiel | one for not |
12:20.22 | nevcairiel | but since we cannot do that |
12:20.24 | orionshock | ya i know - i get the circular reasoning |
12:20.27 | nevcairiel | we only provide the Embed one |
12:20.35 | nevcairiel | and let AceLib take care of the rest |
12:21.27 | orionshock | i guess what im trying to say is that while i aggree it's not a Optional Dep, one should not rely on AceLib (as another addon) to manage the loading of libs ; tho i don't think blizard intended addons to get as complicated as they have become |
12:22.06 | Nargiddley | well that is what AceLib is there for, to manage libs |
12:24.13 | orionshock | i guess ive missed the entire disscussion arround embeds.xml |
12:26.19 | dreamss2 | orion i asked the same |
12:26.23 | dreamss2 | i hate embed libs |
12:26.32 | dreamss2 | defeats the point of using libs :P |
12:26.55 | Nargiddley | which is why embeds.xml exists |
12:27.18 | orionshock | the duality of AceLibs makes them technicality opt dep's; due to the popular distribution method we have the a nice little paradox of are they optional / required / included |
12:27.27 | Nargiddley | so its 1 place to remove the embedded refs |
12:27.55 | nevcairiel | embeded libs dont defeat the purpose of libs |
12:28.06 | Nargiddley | they arent optional, they're either included or required deps |
12:28.09 | nevcairiel | any unused copy is wiped from memory by the garbage collecter |
12:28.16 | nevcairiel | only downside, a bit more loading time |
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12:29.17 | dreamss2 | nevcairiel, why the hell do i need 3-7 copies of the same lib |
12:29.31 | nevcairiel | you dont |
12:29.33 | Nargiddley | dreamss2, you dont |
12:29.39 | orionshock | witch brings me back to an origional statement " i don't think blizzard intended addons to become complicated as Ace2 framework has presented |
12:29.42 | nevcairiel | but it doesnt really hurt either |
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12:29.45 | Nargiddley | but it simplifies distribution |
12:29.55 | dreamss2 | not to mention i had the slight problem of having an embed lib that was a diff name that the new ver |
12:30.02 | dreamss2 | not fun trying to track it down |
12:30.18 | Nargiddley | if you can deal with libs yourself you dont need to use them, its a choice |
12:30.32 | orionshock | 10+ ace2 libs means you proly wana switch to disembeded |
12:30.36 | Wobin | !c us argent dawn kadamist |
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12:30.50 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Kadamist, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (0/31/30). 7170 HP; 5533 Mana; 102 mana regen; 14 mp5; 4645 Armour; 1456 AP; 197.3 Melee DPS; 21.09% melee crit; 58 melee hit; 1590 RAP; 245.8 Ranged DPS; 26.09% ranged crit; 58 ranged hit; 15.2% dodge; 10 fire resist; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 2413 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2em2th ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dggzk ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 08:40:39 2007 |
12:31.27 | dreamss2 | then u gotta manually find out what libs u need since they dont show in the tooltip under addons |
12:31.48 | nevcairiel | disembed was mainly designed for developers |
12:31.53 | nevcairiel | and later to save bandwidth |
12:31.54 | orionshock | WAU man |
12:32.04 | dreamss2 | its no big deal, just not a fan of it |
12:32.17 | dreamss2 | WAU dosent show deps |
12:32.23 | Nargiddley | and wau does it for you, embeds.xml was created so it can disembed automatically easily |
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12:32.53 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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12:34.44 | orionshock | !c us crushridge atradies |
12:34.52 | ThraeBot | orionshock: Atradies, Level 70 Tauren Druid (5/48/8). 9192 HP; 4970 Mana; 113 mana regen; 4355 Armour; 95.7 Melee DPS; 7.24% melee crit; 4 melee hit; 18 +heal; 163 defense; 16.14% dodge; 56 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1358 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/269j3f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nw4n2 ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 08:44:41 2007 ]] |
12:35.34 | orionshock | cute bot there Thrae |
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12:45.35 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r47450 10TableInspector/ (. Core.lua Libs/ TableInspector.toc embeds.xml): |
12:45.35 | CIA-14 | TableInspector: - Initial commit. |
12:45.35 | CIA-14 | - Inspect tables in a Tablet setting. |
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12:59.38 | Mecdemort | hmm what to do now |
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12:59.54 | orionshock | help me bloat my addon :D |
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13:00.04 | Mecdemort | bloat: it's what's for diner |
13:00.10 | orionshock | lol |
13:00.23 | Mecdemort | what addon |
13:00.25 | orionshock | it's a small bloated addon called ReportAFK, it's in the branches atm |
13:00.54 | orionshock | speaking of witch.. |
13:00.59 | orionshock | i have a new commit to make |
13:06.02 | CIA-14 | 03kunda * r47451 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2/Babble-Inventory-2.2.lua: .Babble-Inventory-2.2: deDE fix & fixed name in comments (line 2) |
13:08.08 | orionshock | when doing commits it has a dir named "." in the list, should i be including it in the commit? |
13:08.35 | CIA-14 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r47452 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/ReportAFK.lua: |
13:08.35 | CIA-14 | Fubar_ReportAFK |
13:08.35 | CIA-14 | -Now has option to set report limit |
13:08.35 | CIA-14 | -added externals |
13:08.35 | CIA-14 | -Praying it works still |
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13:10.08 | clad|away | orionshock: why bother when its coming in 2.2 anyway? |
13:10.28 | orionshock | um, well that's actualy what it's using |
13:11.03 | clad|away | oh okay, makes sense now :P |
13:11.03 | orionshock | when 2.2 comes out i'll switch arround like 3 commented out sections and fwabam, it does that |
13:11.23 | orionshock | for the moment it's just bloated with extra junk like fubar stuff for looks, it really could be shaved down to 1 function and a macro to call it |
13:11.50 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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13:16.10 | orionshock | btw what is the next patch? 2.2 or 2.3? |
13:20.15 | clad|away | 2.2 is the next patch, and when it gets patched :P |
13:20.56 | Fisker- | isn't "." just current dir? |
13:22.03 | orionshock | yes . is current dir, |
13:22.11 | clad|away | yes |
13:22.12 | orionshock | i did set externals, that would do it i think |
13:22.24 | orionshock | but it errored on me with the middle finger |
13:27.47 | Mecdemort | what is 2.2 changing that affects that addon? |
13:28.02 | orionshock | new API |
13:28.12 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
13:28.28 | Mecdemort | ah |
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13:33.18 | pb_ee1 | Hum... how can I trigger a "fake" Blizzard event? |
13:33.19 | CIA-14 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r47453 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/: |
13:33.20 | CIA-14 | Fubar_ReportAFK |
13:33.20 | CIA-14 | -one more try at externals |
13:33.38 | pb_ee1 | AceEvent doc: "This should never be called to simulate fake Blizzard events." |
13:33.50 | pb_ee1 | Is there a way to do that? |
13:34.12 | Mecdemort | ya trying to find it |
13:34.16 | orionshock | & there you go, it worked :D |
13:34.52 | orionshock | works wonders when you blow something up and start from scratch on some computers |
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13:36.31 | orionshock | clad - i take it your the infamous Cladhaire? |
13:36.53 | pb_ee1 | He is. |
13:37.04 | clad|away | lol, i suppose :P |
13:37.08 | clad|away | i'm infamous O.o? |
13:37.15 | orionshock | <3 the mod clique, i would not be able to play this game with out it |
13:37.29 | Mecdemort | hmm maybe not |
13:37.45 | clad|away | thats awesome :P |
13:37.55 | orionshock | :D |
13:38.16 | orionshock | & with that good night newYork it is 6am here and im off to sleep |
13:38.27 | Mecdemort | sleep is for the weak |
13:40.05 | pb_ee1 | clad|away, d'ya know how to trigger a fake blizzard event by any chance? |
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13:40.40 | clad|away | pb_ee1: you should never ever under any circumstance need to do that |
13:40.52 | pb_ee1 | I actually need to do this |
13:41.03 | nevcairiel | why? |
13:41.23 | clad|away | there's _never_ a reason to do that |
13:41.27 | clad|away | you can easily cause a race condition |
13:41.31 | clad|away | and other bad things |
13:41.36 | Mecdemort | omg blizzard is racist!? |
13:41.37 | pb_ee1 | ok let me explain |
13:41.40 | clad|away | can you explain why? |
13:41.45 | pb_ee1 | i'm coding chatlog atm |
13:41.48 | clad|away | Mecdemort: they clearly hate gnomes. |
13:41.54 | Mecdemort | ah, quite right |
13:42.02 | Mecdemort | and those smelly dwarves |
13:42.17 | pb_ee1 | it saves the chat with _exactly_ the same arguments than blizzard when it gets the events (CHAT_MSG_WHISPER, ...) |
13:42.29 | clad|away | okay |
13:42.31 | pb_ee1 | what i want to do is easy: restore the chats in the chatframe at login |
13:42.45 | nevcairiel | use AddMessage |
13:42.50 | pb_ee1 | No. |
13:43.00 | nevcairiel | or directly call the event handler of the chatlog |
13:43.03 | Mecdemort | i dont get it |
13:43.03 | clad|away | yep |
13:43.12 | clad|away | you cannot and should not be firing a blizzard event. |
13:43.16 | pb_ee1 | the event handler of the chatlog? |
13:43.18 | clad|away | yes, |
13:43.22 | clad|away | if you need to be hacky |
13:43.26 | clad|away | and that will just call addmessage |
13:43.33 | clad|away | so you can just addmessage yourself, or call the event handler. |
13:43.51 | pb_ee1 | Actually i'd like to simulate a CHAT_MSG_GUILD for example |
13:43.53 | pb_ee1 | why? |
13:44.01 | pb_ee1 | cause it is the _ONLY_ way to be sure that the chats will be correctly printed the way the user wants it |
13:44.06 | nevcairiel | using eventhandler will atleast involve any hooks |
13:44.17 | clad|away | then you will use the event handler |
13:44.25 | pb_ee1 | if the user has prat, using a fake CHAT_MSG_GUILD will display it the way prat should |
13:44.32 | clad|away | you cannot do what you want to do, there is no way to fire events. |
13:44.35 | pb_ee1 | so the event handler is a correct solution? |
13:44.38 | clad|away | and there shoudl not be |
13:44.39 | clad|away | yes |
13:44.50 | clad|away | not to be debbie downer, but L |
13:44.51 | clad|away | :P |
13:44.53 | pb_ee1 | humm and how do I do that? :p |
13:45.16 | clad|away | find the event handlers for each event type |
13:45.20 | clad|away | and call them directly, with the arguments. |
13:45.33 | nevcairiel | its basicly all ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
13:46.06 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_chat_frames_to_modify_or_suppress_messages |
13:46.08 | pb_ee1 | cool :p |
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13:46.45 | pb_ee1 | so instead of triggering a fake blizzard event, i should trigger the hook? |
13:46.45 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r47454 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: update Thaddius zhCN local |
13:49.52 | Laric | do you get CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_JOIN before PEW? |
13:49.54 | clad|away | you're not hooking anything |
13:49.56 | clad|away | you call the function |
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13:50.51 | pb_ee1 | well i'll have to hook it anyway but that's not a problem :p |
13:51.02 | pb_ee1 | i'll give it a try now, thanks for the info ;) |
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13:52.42 | Laric | si there a wiki page on event order on login? |
13:52.48 | Laric | is even |
13:52.57 | pb_ee1 | yes |
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13:53.11 | pb_ee1 | just type "events" in the search box and you should get it |
13:54.14 | kebinusan | http://inventorspot.com/articles/worlds_tallest_building_be_talle_6398 neat |
13:54.24 | clad|away | Laric: if there are any questions, load up DevTools, and run /dtevents |
13:54.32 | clad|away | you'll get a full listing of events in chronological order |
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13:55.23 | Laric | ah thanks clad |
13:55.34 | clad|away | I use that all the time |
13:58.04 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r47455 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: add Sapphiron new zhCN local. |
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13:59.08 | vithos | bah, buffalo2 no longer available other than by svn sucks :( |
13:59.34 | cncfanatics | yo all |
13:59.52 | vithos | morning |
14:00.13 | Fisker- | well Buffalo2 is buggy too |
14:00.16 | Fisker- | but giev story |
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14:01.39 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r47456 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: update zhCN local |
14:02.00 | vithos | 14:14 <+CIA-2> nimbal * r47404 Buffalo2/: Buffalo2: Deleting trunk version, moved to branches so people know it's not usable. Should've done this a long time ago. |
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14:02.43 | vithos | i mean yeah, it's buggy. but lots of people use it anyway i imagine. a warning in the description would have been fine i think |
14:03.33 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r47457 10Capping/locals/localization-zhCN.lua: |
14:03.33 | CIA-14 | Capping |
14:03.33 | CIA-14 | - update zhCN local |
14:04.19 | baer_ | for all german speaking guys: |
14:04.27 | vithos | #wowace-cia wins for reviewing commits i missed while sleeping/etc |
14:04.29 | baer_ | http://www.mein-netz-geht-nicht.de/heirat.jpg |
14:04.53 | baer_ | just happened to my priest, while farming ores. :-D |
14:05.28 | Cyrez | That's why I made the channel... Can catch up on days of commits in minutes. :) |
14:06.32 | Cyrez | ZOMG, new record!!!12 |
14:06.36 | Cyrez | 38 users. |
14:06.38 | Cyrez | W00t. |
14:08.05 | Cyrez | Only downside is that any normal user that's in there can't change their nick. |
14:08.19 | Mecdemort | it wouldnt let be go afk while in there |
14:08.37 | Kuja^ | changing nicks is for pussies anyway *hides* |
14:09.19 | vithos | <PROTECTED> |
14:10.41 | Mecdemort | anyone really bored want to go check out TableInspector and give me some thoughts |
14:11.43 | Cyrez | 39, yay! |
14:13.10 | CIA-14 | 03zealotonastick * r47458 10GetOffGetGoing/ (GetOffGetGoing.lua GetOffGetGoing.toc): GetOffGetGoing - Added Skyguard flightmasters gossip skip/dismount. |
14:13.31 | CIA-14 | 03solor * r47459 10TauntWarn/TauntWarn.lua: |
14:13.31 | CIA-14 | TauntWarn: |
14:13.31 | CIA-14 | - lets make warning red |
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14:23.39 | cncfanatics | could someone rate some code for me ? efficiency wise |
14:23.46 | Mecdemort | sure |
14:23.48 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72770 |
14:23.53 | cncfanatics | its a text substitution engine |
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14:27.15 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, what u think? or still reading? |
14:27.25 | Mecdemort | still reading |
14:27.55 | cncfanatics | kay |
14:28.15 | PferdOne | Hi, i've a problem with an addon i like to write...is there any possiblity to check the faction (Alliance/Horde) of a player just by passing its name? Cause i just found these Unit...-Functions which need eather targets of mine or in my party |
14:28.53 | cncfanatics | PferdOne, if the player is targetted, u can find it out |
14:28.56 | cncfanatics | easely |
14:29.03 | Mecdemort | mouseover works too i think |
14:29.06 | PferdOne | yeah but it isnt |
14:29.08 | cncfanatics | if u need it with just a name and ur unsure wether the player is nearby or not, just /who it |
14:29.14 | Mecdemort | but if its opposite faction, i dont think you can |
14:29.15 | cncfanatics | if u find a who entry, he's ur faction |
14:29.25 | cncfanatics | if u dont find one, he's opposite faction |
14:29.37 | PferdOne | yeah but who can't do this in BGs |
14:29.57 | cncfanatics | u can who a BG player |
14:30.18 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
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14:31.54 | PferdOne | hmm |
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14:33.27 | Mecdemort | hmm how often is your TextSubs.ButtonMixin:Activate called |
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14:34.19 | cncfanatics | once for each button, to create the frames |
14:35.54 | PferdOne | well it seems like SendWho isnt the way to go cause on wowwiki it says -> SendWho appears to always return nil. |
14:35.59 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, what u think of the code ? |
14:36.14 | cncfanatics | PferdOne, u need to wait for a who reply |
14:36.17 | cncfanatics | I'd suggest using wholib |
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14:36.34 | PferdOne | hmm ok |
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14:36.47 | Mecdemort | looks fine as far as i can tell |
14:37.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm, is there a way to search within individual threads on the wowace forums? looking through 50 pages for the thing i want to check out isn't my idea of fun :x |
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14:38.18 | Mecdemort | doesnt look like it |
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14:43.58 | Grum | WHOOO! Minimap drawing working .. jsut some clipping crap left O.o |
14:45.18 | Fisker- | :O? |
14:45.32 | Fisker- | whatcha doing? |
14:46.25 | Grum | Still working on Cartographer_Routes (drawing routes on the map and showing them on your minimap |
14:46.31 | Grum | so you can lazy-herb/mine :P |
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14:48.34 | cncfanatics | thats fucking uber |
14:50.13 | |Stan| | if you implement auto-walking, it is :P |
14:50.45 | Mecdemort | they banned that a long time ago |
14:51.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i miss /goto x,y and /gotocorpse in cosmos back in the day |
14:52.30 | Grum | meh |
14:52.50 | Grum | i have some 'rounding' problems suck |
14:53.01 | Grum | oh well ... |
14:58.48 | CIA-14 | 03poull * r47460 10PallyPower/ (4 files): |
14:58.48 | CIA-14 | PallyPower: |
14:58.48 | CIA-14 | - Added Normal Blessings |
14:58.48 | CIA-14 | - Fixed number of tabs many places |
14:59.05 | Grum | yay fixed :) |
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15:06.54 | xyu | <PROTECTED> |
15:06.56 | xyu | lol |
15:07.25 | nevcairiel | since copy protections include rootkits |
15:07.28 | nevcairiel | :P |
15:07.38 | xyu | on demos? |
15:07.59 | nevcairiel | sure, good reason to stuff it in the demo, just to get the rootkit over |
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15:09.29 | Cyrez | Aside from the fact that I don't have BioShock, I don't use Explorer, lol. |
15:09.39 | Cyrez | BlackBox FTW. |
15:09.48 | Grum | BlackBox? |
15:09.54 | Fisker- | well it's not really a rootkit |
15:10.05 | Grum | if you didn't ask for it .. it is |
15:10.06 | Fisker- | and the demo didn't install what people believed to be a rootkit |
15:10.23 | Grum | 'goodshit' then ;D |
15:10.25 | Fisker- | I didn't ask for your opinion hence you are a rootkit? |
15:10.33 | Fisker- | no that's not exactly how it works |
15:10.56 | Fisker- | the only thing they're doing is embedding their files with characters that Windows doesn't support |
15:11.01 | Cyrez | http://www.bb4win.org/news.php |
15:11.05 | Fisker- | windows as in the app not as in the kernel |
15:11.05 | Grum | ah well .. lets say installing software which monitors other software and is designed to be 'hard to remove' .. oh well :) |
15:11.11 | Fisker- | regedit, explorer etc. |
15:11.32 | Fisker- | A rootkit is an application that Windows doesn't know is there |
15:11.39 | Fisker- | api-wise |
15:11.47 | Cyrez | explorer.exe isn't even running right now, lol. |
15:11.58 | Grum | result is the same Fisker- :) |
15:12.26 | Fisker- | not entirely |
15:12.26 | Grum | the windows api can not handle it .. therefor you can consider it malicious :) |
15:12.35 | Fisker- | Securom can be removed, rootkits "cannot" |
15:12.39 | Grum | (or you can say the OS sucks hairy-donkey-balls ofc :P) |
15:12.56 | Cyrez | Rootkits can be removed if they're not running. |
15:13.03 | Fisker- | hence "" |
15:13.10 | Fisker- | the windows api can handle it, but the programs built in cannot |
15:14.16 | Cyrez | I'm glad to be using an alternative shell. |
15:14.24 | evl | Hoho |
15:14.24 | Cyrez | Any of you heard of Poison Ivy? |
15:14.28 | evl | I'm so looking forward to my mac |
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15:15.29 | Cyrez | I accidentally made myself immune to it, lol. |
15:16.38 | Fisker- | _ |
15:16.39 | Fisker- | ? |
15:17.07 | nevcairiel | most of the copy protections manage to break some part of your system .. they are teh evil |
15:17.25 | Cyrez | Poison Ivy is a remote access tool that's considered a trojan. |
15:18.02 | Fisker- | definitely |
15:18.24 | Fisker- | just saying that per the definition SecuROM can't be considered a rootkit |
15:18.29 | Fisker- | even though it's damn close to it |
15:18.36 | Cyrez | This girl I know got it from an ex-BF and before I helped her get rid of it I did something with it on a virtual machine, but I found out that if explorer.exe isn't running, it can't open a connection. |
15:19.21 | Cyrez | So it was rendered inert. ^^ |
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15:23.21 | Yssaril | anybody here that can help me our with dewdrop? is there anyway i can change the location of where it swans from a parent? (right now the tables TOPRIGHT is aligned with the parents TOPLEFT i want want it to be TOPLEFT and BOTTOM LEFT |
15:25.17 | Elkano | what would you guys recommend as arena ddon to watch your enemy? |
15:25.37 | Yssaril | personnaly like gladiator (with tattle disabled) |
15:28.27 | Garoun | ok, is thre any way to tell the newest wowaceupdater NOT to phone home to check for an update? |
15:28.35 | Garoun | I just started using Proximo |
15:28.55 | xyu | there was one that showed rating info. updated more regularly than tattle imo. but i forget what it is called |
15:28.59 | xyu | something scpvp or something like that |
15:29.21 | Garoun | sspvp has been abandoned |
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15:29.29 | Garoun | and caused me quite a few errors |
15:30.44 | Garoun | Elkano: any chance of adding another parameter for the bars in EBBs so you can force all connected groups to the right instead of center? |
15:30.50 | Yssaril | tattle has just brougth me headeaches lol it tried to tell me i was playing on an invalid server /sigh |
15:31.48 | Garoun | I ask becaus I made my tench and buffs 120wide and wanted to lead debuff 150 wide, but having the 120 wide centered under debuffs that it's connected to looks bad :( |
15:32.03 | Elkano | Garoun, in case they have similar width it will center-anchor; if one is smaller than the other it will anchor based on the place where you droped the group |
15:32.19 | Elkano | just try to align the corners |
15:32.22 | Garoun | k, I'll break and try putting it back on |
15:32.32 | Garoun | the one thing I didn't try ;) |
15:33.06 | Elkano | :) |
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15:33.27 | Elkano | you can also hack the SVs, there is stored where to anchor |
15:33.40 | Garoun | k |
15:34.05 | Garoun | I noticed you had removed the original EBB from the svn so I figured it was time to fix the new one to work like I prefer |
15:34.14 | Elkano | in your case there should be an empty string, so replace "" by "RIGHT" for anchorside I think |
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15:34.32 | Yssaril | Elk do you have any idea how to change the location dewdrop spawns the menu from a parent? |
15:36.38 | Elkano | Yssaril, did you look at itsapi on wiki if it's still there? |
15:36.56 | Yssaril | doesn't show anything about positioning it |
15:37.18 | Yssaril | basically jsut tells me how i can add/remove things in 5 different ways |
15:37.52 | Elkano | Yssaril, it was on "register and open argument" :/ |
15:38.20 | Yssaril | that part seams to be afk lol |
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15:39.43 | Cyrez | Booya, new record! |
15:40.07 | Garoun | Elkano, yep I'm gonna have to manually change the SV |
15:40.45 | Garoun | it always snaps to center no matter where I drag it to snap on the debuff bar |
15:40.54 | Elkano | Yssaril, you'll most likely end up asking ck |
15:41.17 | Garoun | I have Bar 1(160) -> Bar 2(150 -> Bar 3(150 |
15:41.38 | Garoun | 2 and 3 line up right, bar 2 lines up centered to bar 1 |
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15:41.45 | Yssaril | kk the Google cache of the old site seams to be missing to but the one for tablet still exists so i will try to use thoses functions (seam to very similar from what i have been seeing) |
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15:43.30 | Elkano | well, 10px difference may be to small to make it snapp to the edge |
15:43.43 | Elkano | I should change that code to use the smallest one |
15:44.33 | Garoun | actually with them set to 160 130 130 it still centers as well |
15:44.40 | Garoun | oh wait |
15:44.42 | Garoun | there it goes |
15:45.35 | Garoun | looks like +30 ish is the cut off |
15:46.20 | Fisker- | 1+1 = Elkano |
15:46.48 | Garoun | yeah, 30 was your drop off hehe |
15:46.51 | Elkano | well it's +25 |
15:46.55 | Garoun | ah ok |
15:46.59 | Chompers | and 1 / 0 = fisker? |
15:47.27 | Elkano | it first checks center then left and last right. if one of these points is <=25 from the other it anchors. |
15:47.28 | Fisker- | yes |
15:47.40 | Elkano | I'll change it to use the smallest of the three |
15:47.46 | Garoun | that makes sense :) |
15:48.42 | CIA-14 | 03elkano * r47461 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua: |
15:48.42 | CIA-14 | ElkBuffBars |
15:48.42 | CIA-14 | - changed group anchoring to use the smallest distance |
15:48.50 | Elkano | should(TM) be working |
15:49.50 | Fisker- | scrap EBBs and help nimbal on buffalo2 |
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15:55.20 | what-K | hi all |
15:55.33 | Elkano | hmm... I should update my tooltip script to the new armory location... |
15:55.50 | Yssaril | woot the tablet functions anchoring works in dewdrop :) |
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15:56.06 | what-K | i have a problem with bosswhisperer sine a few days i get an error from this addon at startup |
15:56.15 | what-K | can someone help me please |
15:57.36 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
15:57.45 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
15:57.55 | Punkie` | ~botsnack |
15:57.55 | purl | aw, gee, Punkie` |
15:58.27 | Shirik | what's the error? |
15:58.50 | Shirik | and stupid questions out of the way, are you sure it's up to date? |
15:59.45 | what-K | yes |
15:59.53 | what-K | i have update it with wow updater |
16:00.11 | what-K | mom i start wow again to post the error |
16:00.23 | Garoun | Thanks for the update Elkano |
16:00.45 | Elkano | you're wellcome :) |
16:01.51 | what-K | Shirik ok i have another question i have see now that it now gives 2 bosswhisperer which one must i use for the german client ? |
16:02.09 | nevcairiel | the normal one |
16:02.16 | nevcairiel | BossWhisperer2 was a mistake :P |
16:02.53 | what-K | ok can i post the error here ß |
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16:03.12 | what-K | Date: 2007-08-26 18:02:34ID: 9Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ..\AddOns\BossWhisperer\BossWhisperer.lua line 31: AceLocale(BOSSWHISPERER): Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not.Debug: [C]: ? [C]: error() ...face\AddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:100: error() ...ddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua:223: RegisterTranslations() BossWhisperer\BossWhis |
16:03.21 | what-K | this is the error |
16:03.58 | [ls]Zo | Noob question: How do i split stacks with Baggins? |
16:04.08 | Fisker- | Look mr. B it's an angel |
16:04.08 | Yssaril | jsut like you always do |
16:04.19 | Fisker- | I can see from the light in his belly and having seen quite a few angels in my time |
16:04.42 | [ls]Zo | Yssaril: i get an error, saying i can't split those items |
16:05.02 | Elkano | [ls]Zo: make sure it's not set to show merged stacks and then split as you usualy would with shift-click |
16:05.22 | Yssaril | hmmmm try turning of compression maybe its already split but simply shows up as one |
16:05.38 | [ls]Zo | already turned off compression |
16:05.38 | vithos | [ls]Zo: alt+right click |
16:05.39 | [ls]Zo | hm |
16:06.01 | [ls]Zo | that worked |
16:06.02 | [ls]Zo | thanks |
16:06.55 | what-K | gives at the addon bosswhisperer a command to open the options ? |
16:07.14 | [ls]Zo | Shift click worked on some items, but not marks of illidari |
16:07.38 | vithos | [ls]Zo: just use the alt+rightclick menu's split function |
16:07.43 | [ls]Zo | yeah |
16:08.06 | what-K | Shirik can u see the error ? |
16:08.58 | [ls]Zo | thanks for the help! |
16:10.06 | what-K | nevcairiel can u help me ? |
16:10.22 | PferdOne | Anyone know how can i pass a variable from an addon to use it in a macro? |
16:10.58 | Tinyboom | is there some of the pitbull modules that has to be enabled, tried to disable some of them and as soon as i log in wow crashes with "memory could not be read".... |
16:11.23 | nevcairiel | what-K: guess some translater made some mistake then. |
16:11.50 | yoshimo | it be a good thing if the chatlog didn't record messages that are already filtered out by spamsentry and shutup |
16:12.01 | yoshimo | *chatlog addon |
16:12.06 | what-K | can u help me to fix it maybe ? |
16:12.19 | CIA-14 | 03ennuilg * r47462 10scorchio/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
16:12.19 | CIA-14 | scorchio: |
16:12.19 | CIA-14 | - Readded PaintChips-2.0. In the right place. |
16:12.19 | CIA-14 | - Scorchio! now checks your talents for 3/3 Imp Scorch. |
16:12.19 | CIA-14 | - Added AutoBlackList option. |
16:12.19 | CIA-14 | - Mob deaths are now sync'd. |
16:12.41 | Yssaril | yikes i jsut realized that i have been commiting with an empty embed.xml file |
16:14.15 | PferdOne | is there no way to pass a variable from an addon so i can use it in a macro, for example i want to pass a variable that contains "Hello!" and i want to /say variableHello ?! |
16:15.22 | Yssaril | dont think it would work wiht /say but if you have a global variable with a string it should be possible give me a sec |
16:16.13 | PferdOne | thx, Yssaril |
16:16.29 | Yssaril | if you want to /say it this should do the trick "/script SendChatMessage(randomvargoeshere) |
16:17.01 | PferdOne | thx alot |
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16:19.21 | Amadeo | So WAU has an installer now, eh? |
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16:21.25 | what-K | nevcairiel can u maybe say what i must edit ? |
16:23.54 | Garoun | I find it funny Blizz didn't have AlwaysUpFrame1 tied to WolrdStateAlwaysUpFrame |
16:24.06 | Saint-N | wau 2 has always had an installer |
16:24.18 | Saint-N | it just doesnt work as pretty as one would think |
16:24.22 | Garoun | WSAUF is it's parent but it's not set to be relative for some reason |
16:24.28 | Saint-N | since technically extract to folder should be good enough |
16:24.36 | Dotted | Amadeo months old :p |
16:24.47 | Amadeo | Well, where does it even install to? :P |
16:25.11 | Saint-N | a magical place mwith fairies and unicorns |
16:25.20 | Saint-N | or where ever you tell it to ;) |
16:25.32 | Amadeo | WAU's always done some weird stuff |
16:25.44 | Garoun | I just want the ability to turn off auto-phone home for updates :P |
16:25.59 | what-K | why will no one help me :( |
16:26.19 | Saint-N | cuz you havent asked a feasible question? |
16:26.44 | Saint-N | or we're jerks, your choice |
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16:31.58 | what-K | i try to fix the error from the addon bosswhisperer |
16:32.14 | what-K | this is the error |
16:32.15 | what-K | Date: 2007-08-26 18:02:34ID: 9Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ..\AddOns\BossWhisperer\BossWhisperer.lua line 31: AceLocale(BOSSWHISPERER): Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not.Debug: [C]: ? [C]: error() ...face\AddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:100: error() ...ddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua:223: RegisterTranslations() BossWhisperer\BossWhis |
16:32.46 | what-K | but i dont know much about wow scripting so iss my question what i can do to fix the error |
16:32.56 | PferdOne | well i think it's a noob question, but how do i print in a different color? or even bold? |
16:34.39 | what-K | Saint-N can u help me ? |
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16:35.54 | Amadeo | So why does WAU install itself to such a weird ass place? |
16:36.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not too sure i like the concept of 'installing' it anyway |
16:36.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
16:36.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like just extracting to a folder :[ |
16:36.51 | Amadeo | Me too |
16:37.04 | Amadeo | This is where it installs it on my PC |
16:37.07 | Amadeo | C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Apps\2.0\NWW05VGQ.MJA\4VEQMBR9.MT7\wowa..tion_d76ccab02584da8d_0001.0009_93913cadef99e279 |
16:37.11 | Amadeo | wtf is that about? |
16:37.28 | harl|WoW | there already have been some discussion about that |
16:37.29 | Elkano | .net I think |
16:37.33 | harl|WoW | yes |
16:37.45 | Amadeo | I've used .NET apps that install in Program Files like the rest |
16:37.48 | harl|WoW | and there's a channel named #wau |
16:38.38 | harl|WoW | yea |
16:39.25 | Amadeo | I dunno, it's just really weird...it makes lots of data folders in Documents and Settings also |
16:39.30 | Punkie` | Amadeo: I've seen both |
16:39.38 | Punkie` | do you install it via the OneClick stuff? |
16:39.52 | Amadeo | I've done it both ways, it doesn't ask you where to put it |
16:40.13 | Punkie` | well I've seen the above location used more than program files for .net |
16:40.29 | harl|WoW | yea. it creates about 14 folders. and when it updates itself it starts from another one than before. such things kind of bug me. |
16:40.37 | Vegeta]BT[ | is there a way to tell the program where to install ? |
16:41.25 | harl|WoW | Vegeta]BT[: you can just extract the files from the zip (then rename them) or just copy the files from that overly long .net directory to any other, but WAU won't update on itself anymore then. |
16:41.56 | Amadeo | I'm a big fan of not having to install anything, and just extracting it to where I want :) |
16:42.02 | harl|WoW | Amadeo: me too |
16:42.37 | Amadeo | but I see the need to have an installer since WAU is becoming such a popular app |
16:43.11 | harl|WoW | i've got a programs directory on a separate hard disk, so it's much easier to take all my programs with me or just reinstall the system and not having to install crap |
16:43.58 | harl|WoW | including portableapps ediitions of firefox and thunderbird (for an instance) |
16:44.00 | Vegeta]BT[ | ah now i get it, so when i leave it where it is, it will update itself, when launching, this is a great option yes ^^ But it would be nice if you could choose the intallpath. I don't like it when a program is installed anywhere and the user does not get to know where. |
16:44.26 | harl|WoW | yep |
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16:45.13 | Amadeo | Now, I know you can let WAU get libs for you instead of grabbing externals with everything...but my question is, if you uninstall an addon via WAU, will it remove any unused libs that it once got for those addons? |
16:45.15 | harl|WoW | that was exactly my point which i have already stated in #wau yesterday |
16:45.19 | what-K | can some one help me with this error or not :( ? |
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16:45.48 | harl|WoW | i can live with .net if that's what it takes, but i'd at least want to choose the directory |
16:47.10 | Vegeta]BT[ | "what-K": what error, is just started reading so far ^^ |
16:47.16 | what-K | sry :D |
16:47.19 | what-K | i post it |
16:47.25 | what-K | Date: 2007-08-26 18:02:34ID: 9Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ..\AddOns\BossWhisperer\BossWhisperer.lua line 31: AceLocale(BOSSWHISPERER): Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not.Debug: [C]: ? [C]: error() ...face\AddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:100: error() ...ddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua:223: RegisterTranslations() BossWhisperer\BossWhis |
16:47.36 | what-K | thats the error at startup from wow |
16:47.45 | what-K | the addon iss BossWhisperer |
16:47.48 | harl|WoW | my WoW resides in "m:\games\wow\" and former WAU versions (up to 1.9.42) went to "m:\games\wow\wau\". i'd wish that i could "install" WAU into that directory so it can update itself into its own single(!) directory. |
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16:49.15 | Vegeta]BT[ | it seems that this is a language problem betwee the addon language file and the wow client language |
16:49.15 | what-K | Vegeta]BT[ u have read the error ? |
16:49.20 | Vegeta]BT[ | yes |
16:49.23 | what-K | ok |
16:49.36 | what-K | maybe u have an idea |
16:50.07 | Vegeta]BT[ | did you try to update the acelocale Lib ? |
16:51.03 | pb_ee1 | What is the exact equivalent of DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME? |
16:51.11 | harl|WoW | what-K: it kind of looks to me like the translation to your locale (de) is incomplete or erroneous or something. |
16:51.52 | what-K | no i was in holiday a week |
16:52.06 | what-K | i have start the wau and he updates |
16:52.15 | what-K | i have no idea what i must do |
16:54.21 | Vegeta]BT[ | try to update your addons with wau, and then load wow again |
16:54.43 | what-K | have i |
16:54.49 | what-K | same error again |
16:54.54 | harl|WoW | especially update BossWhisperer and AtlasLoot, since those two add-ons are being mentioned in the error message |
16:55.18 | Saint-N | did you do a full shutdown and restart of wow? |
16:55.18 | what-K | i have update all my addons |
16:55.23 | what-K | yes |
16:55.24 | Saint-N | or did you just update and /rl? |
16:55.34 | Vegeta]BT[ | hmm |
16:55.39 | what-K | no i have quit wow and start again |
16:56.08 | harl|WoW | you may try installing !!!StandaloneLibraries and Ace2 and having WAU update all add-ons without externals |
16:56.21 | what-K | ["Purge"] = "Purge whispers", |
16:56.27 | what-K | this is line 31 in the addon |
16:57.40 | harl|WoW | something is amiss with the translation strings or their values being passed from one function to another |
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16:58.15 | Funkeh` | loes |
16:58.26 | harl|WoW | if you update all add-ons and they all support the same mechanisms and use the correct strings, this should work |
16:58.58 | what-K | harl|WoW i have now install standalone und ace2 and i get the same error agian |
16:59.02 | what-K | *again |
17:00.12 | Saint-N | what-k: do you choose install with externals or no? |
17:00.22 | what-K | i have try both |
17:00.28 | Saint-N | did you fully remove? |
17:00.43 | what-K | yes |
17:00.52 | Saint-N | then it just hates you ;) |
17:01.07 | Saint-N | pesky danes ;P |
17:01.35 | Saint-N | i would suggest trying again... delete the bosswhisper folder |
17:01.42 | Saint-N | and then download it again WITH externals |
17:01.57 | Saint-N | and tick the button in wau that says "automatically download dependancies" |
17:02.03 | Saint-N | or whatever it actually reads |
17:02.46 | harl|WoW | what's the difference between BossWhisperer and BossWhisperer2 anyway |
17:03.38 | Saint-N | there's 2? |
17:03.45 | Saint-N | generally the 2 denotes that it uses ace2 |
17:04.35 | Punkie` | no |
17:04.37 | Punkie` | 2 was a mistake |
17:04.43 | Punkie` | and was merged into 1 |
17:05.15 | harl|WoW | so.. 2 could be removed as well |
17:05.30 | Punkie` | you should only have BossWhisperer installed |
17:09.14 | Punkie` | i'd never use it anyway |
17:09.14 | Punkie` | i hate people with addons like that |
17:09.27 | what-K | Saint-N ok i try it |
17:10.01 | what-K | Saint-N can u say me wht is better when i update with or without or simply f12 ? |
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17:12.53 | Yssaril | anyone know a tutorial on how to use dewdrop? |
17:12.54 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r47463 10FlexBar2/Libs/: FlexBar2: del libs |
17:16.06 | vithos | anybody use nSideBar? it sounds interesting but i can't figure out how to use it |
17:16.42 | Saint-N | what-K: i'd say it's a lib error so do it with externals |
17:16.57 | harl|WoW | uhm.. hasn't |
17:17.30 | harl|WoW | i'm not schizophrenic. i think. |
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17:17.41 | vithos | norganna: hi2u |
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17:22.23 | what-K | so |
17:22.43 | what-K | Saint-N i have install all my addons new with externals and i have the same error again |
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17:27.28 | Saint-N | what-K: do you care much about your present layout? like would it be a HUGE inconveince to redo? |
17:27.47 | what-K | no |
17:27.55 | Saint-N | the only other option for you that may correct it is to delete yer saved variables in the wtf folder |
17:28.09 | what-K | hehe |
17:28.17 | what-K | i have detete this too :;D |
17:28.22 | what-K | i have made all new |
17:28.55 | Saint-N | hrm then i guess yher screwed until ckk shows up and has an idear what it is |
17:29.11 | harl|WoW | hm. i haven't tried using AtlasLoot and BossWhisperer atst yet. |
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17:32.36 | kebinusan | http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/05/chuck._wow.jpg |
17:33.08 | mikma | perfect |
17:33.34 | what-K | harl|WoW and ?? |
17:33.39 | what-K | ohh sry |
17:33.45 | what-K | miss understood |
17:34.48 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r47464 10FlexBar2/libs/: |
17:34.48 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: back libs. |
17:34.48 | CIA-14 | sorry very much.. |
17:35.36 | harl|WoW | lol. that's good. |
17:40.54 | harl|WoW | what-K: done now. i'm not getting an error when BossWhisperer isn't loaded. and the cause of this is of course (as i suspected) that BossWhisperer's translation is incomplete. |
17:41.03 | pb_ee1 | Ok, i'm gonna make a beta release of ChatLog 2.5. The new feature is: restores the chats *in your chat frames* at login |
17:41.18 | harl|WoW | "true" is not a valid value for non-base locales |
17:41.20 | what-K | harl|WoW hmm and how can i fix it ? |
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17:41.51 | pb_ee1 | It is smart: it will display in each of your chatframes the messages that you want to have in those. |
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17:45.03 | harl|WoW | what-K: indem du es fertig übersetzt / by completing the translation (i.e. replacing all translation values of "true" with their correct translations. that is: anything between lines 31 and 50 in BossWhisperer.lua) |
17:45.35 | what-K | sach blos ich brech mir hier ein eng ab und du kannst deuzsch :P |
17:46.27 | harl|WoW | (what-K: kann ich, aber der channel ist englisch.) |
17:46.34 | what-K | ich weiss |
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17:47.40 | what-K | ok now i try to translate from 31-50 |
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17:48.55 | what-K | harl|WoW have u edit at u ? |
17:49.22 | what-K | because i dont know what i all must trans but there is so much "true" :D |
17:50.28 | harl|WoW | i've not used BossWhisperer yet so no translation either. |
17:50.59 | harl|WoW | but i may as well just try translating them and paste them somewhere |
17:51.20 | what-K | i dont know what i must edit |
17:51.26 | what-K | there is so much true |
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17:51.51 | harl|WoW | every "true" there has to become an actual string. |
17:52.27 | harl|WoW | like ["Player Limit"] = true, has to become ["Player Limit"] = "Spielerbegrenzung", .. or whatever |
17:52.53 | what-K | yes but at the top there are true too at the english lang |
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17:53.54 | harl|WoW | english is the "base locale" (as stated in the error message), so these don't need any translation |
17:54.04 | what-K | ok |
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17:55.56 | what-K | what is the german for Suppress Outbound ? |
17:57.33 | Grum | is there any elegant way to add one element to an array just for the scope of that function? |
17:57.35 | harl|WoW | uhm.. |
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17:58.12 | ulic | hmm, make a local of it, then pop the new element on the end? |
17:58.36 | Grum | because something like: a = {1,2,3}; function test() local a_copy = a; table.insert(a_copy, 4) end still 'edits' a :\ |
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17:59.20 | harl|WoW | what-K: i'm not sure what it does, but it sounds like "Ausgehende Nachrichten unterbinden" or something ? |
17:59.41 | Grum | 'yay for being bloody verbose' :D |
18:00.22 | Chaotic_D | does it take longer to prepare to fire an arrow than it does to fire a gun? despite the cooldown on my ranged attack being done, it takes me like a good second or two to get that arrow off. it's hard to predict when I'm actually supposed to stop moving based on the cooldown. |
18:00.57 | Grum | meh seems i can only do it with unpack O.o .. not so nice sigh |
18:01.25 | ulic | Chaotic_D: I don't think so, rogues throwing weapons are the same way |
18:01.39 | what-K | harl|WoW ok i think im ready can u say me phere i can post it now ? |
18:02.22 | what-K | maybe u can look over my crap eng :P |
18:02.25 | Chaotic_D | is there an addon that keeps track of how long it takes you to fire? I just can't figure it out. maybe I have to subtract that to the cooldown time to determine when to stop moving. |
18:03.14 | ulic | I don't know of one, why don't you just go fire 50 times and then you'll remember about how long it takes |
18:03.29 | harl|WoW | what-K: you can create an entry at http://ace.pastey.net if you like (it's in the topic as well) |
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18:04.20 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel * r47465 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
18:04.20 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-8 |
18:04.20 | CIA-14 | - removed 2 leftover spaces |
18:04.20 | CIA-14 | - some comment wording changes |
18:05.05 | what-K | http://ace.pastey.net/72777 |
18:05.15 | what-K | harl|WoW can u overview it please |
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18:08.15 | harl|WoW | what-K: you should encase all strings with quotation marks: "bla bla bla" (instead of: bla bla bla) |
18:11.35 | BankZ | I wish SCL colored names by class |
18:12.01 | kenlyric | we remember. |
18:12.04 | Adys | is there any way to display pvp flags on aguf on self, target, party and if possible raid group? |
18:12.13 | harl|WoW | what-K: i don't know the difference between "Player Limit" and "Maximum number of players to store messages for." - but i think your translation of the latter doesn't quite fit and that it should be something like "Maximale Anzahl der Spieler, für die Nachrichten gespeichert werden", |
18:12.16 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 I think some marketing guy needs to be shot. http://www.trekstor.de/en/products/detail_mp3.php?pid=74 |
18:15.01 | harl|WoW | what-K: and using umlauts without saving a file with the correct header (utf8, i guess) leads to the umlauts not being displayed in-game. there a page somehwere on http://wowwiki.com listing the codes for special characters (like umlauts). |
18:15.25 | Chaotic_D | well the problem is from the client side, you can't actually tell how long it takes to fire, because of lag. |
18:15.57 | Chaotic_D | also it's hard to time miliseconds manually. |
18:16.14 | harl|WoW | what-K: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Localize_an_AddOn#Accents.2C_Special_Chars_and_Umlauts |
18:16.16 | Chaotic_D | like if it were 1.5 seconds or 0.75 seconds. |
18:17.06 | Chaotic_D | god damn I wish search engines weren't so crappy. "world of warcraft" "rate of fire" and I get a forum topic about Rainbow Six. -_-; |
18:17.10 | what-K | harl|WoW danke/thx |
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18:20.38 | BankZ | Is there anyway to get trinkets to show in Autobar? |
18:21.48 | Chaotic_D | oh wait... the speed on the weapon is how long it takes to fire in seconds, isn't it? |
18:22.12 | Chaotic_D | how did I overlook that? -_-; |
18:22.52 | Chaotic_D | there should be an addon that automatically shows at what point of your ranged cooldown minus your currently equipped weapon speed. |
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18:25.29 | ckknight | hey all |
18:26.00 | Mounick | yo! |
18:26.55 | Chaotic_D | hi. |
18:31.46 | Amadeo | That has to be one of the most hilarious things that's happened to me in PvP |
18:32.07 | Amadeo | I'm escorting A-Me, and I tend to get ganked right by the end each time...well, this time was no exception |
18:32.33 | charon | Chaotic_D: Quartz has a "Swing Timer" which works nicely for melee. don't know about ranged because i don't play a class with ranged weapons, but you could try that |
18:32.55 | kergoth | the swing timer shows autoshot too, works nicely |
18:33.00 | Amadeo | Some 52 Warrior starts attacking me while A-Me is aggroing every mob around, so I stun the warrior, do a /brb and go kill the mob, he catches up again, I'm doing /wait, he's still attacking..finally get A-Me to the quest NPC, and end up killing him anyway :P |
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18:34.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:17] <Chaotic_D> god damn I wish search engines weren't so crappy. "world of warcraft" "rate of fire" and I get a forum topic about Rainbow Six. -_-; <--it is not the searchmachine who is crappy, it is you who is not capable of using the right syntax |
18:34.54 | sag_ich_nicht | or, to put it in a different way: lern2google, nub |
18:35.02 | what-K | harl|WoW now it works fine :D |
18:35.52 | what-K | harl|WoW http://ace.pastey.net/72778 |
18:36.07 | what-K | thats not the best it will work so :D |
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18:37.38 | BankZ | Why in HELL would "rate of fire" bring up results for Rainbow Six |
18:37.46 | harl|WoW | what-K: yep |
18:37.47 | BankZ | thats F'ed up! |
18:38.30 | sag_ich_nicht | BankZ because someone has his WoW chars in his sig, and is talking about rate of fire of a weapon in rainbow six |
18:38.40 | TNSe | nerf pandemic :( |
18:38.45 | sag_ich_nicht | and the chars in his sig have some "world of warcraft" in front of it |
18:38.46 | TNSe | dwarf mace stun > all :( |
18:38.47 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
18:38.56 | sag_ich_nicht | you add autoshot |
18:39.01 | sag_ich_nicht | to the seachquery |
18:39.04 | sag_ich_nicht | or swingtimer |
18:39.09 | sag_ich_nicht | and get proper results! |
18:41.23 | NightHawkTheSane | TNSe: what does being a dwarf have to do with it? |
18:41.41 | harl|WoW | what-K: i translated some as well. just for fun, i guess. .. http://ace.pastey.net/72779 |
18:42.12 | BankZ | sag_ich_nicht: I was joking. |
18:42.42 | what-K | thx thats iss nice :D |
18:42.44 | BankZ | sag_ich_nicht: and for the search string he used, "World of Warcraft" would not have to be anywhere |
18:43.05 | TNSe | dwarf? bleed removal, poison removal? |
18:43.49 | NightHawkTheSane | BankZ: er, I think, if it was google, they AND your search terms by default, so it would have to be there, but maybe not in any useful context. |
18:44.53 | BankZ | NightHawkTheSane: nope, they OR it |
18:45.18 | NightHawkTheSane | BankZ: *shrug* okay, i havn't bothered checking in some time :P |
18:45.53 | sag_ich_nicht | BankZ nope |
18:45.57 | sag_ich_nicht | google ANDs them |
18:45.59 | sag_ich_nicht | does not OR them. |
18:46.29 | BankZ | not true, but ok |
18:46.52 | BankZ | it will give some preference if more phrases are there |
18:46.54 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. " |
18:46.55 | NightHawkTheSane | The "AND" operator is unnecessary -- we include all search terms by default." |
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18:48.29 | harl|WoW | yea |
18:48.35 | harl|WoW | i really hate google for that one |
18:48.45 | harl|WoW | and some other things as well |
18:49.30 | sag_ich_nicht | well, you CAN use NOT by adding - in front of the term, and force them to use something by using + in front of it |
18:50.21 | Zicon | Pfeh. AND by default is the only way to go. OR is available for when you need it. |
18:50.22 | harl|WoW | google removes plurals and stuff like that too and that sucks |
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18:50.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:50] <harl|WoW> google removes plurals and stuff like that too and that sucks <--just add a + in front of the term |
18:50.57 | sag_ich_nicht | geez |
18:51.14 | harl|WoW | doesn't always work, dude |
18:51.24 | sag_ich_nicht | +"term" |
18:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | always works. |
18:51.27 | Arrowmaster | then quote it |
18:51.34 | sag_ich_nicht | quote it and add a + in front of it |
18:51.35 | sag_ich_nicht | geez |
18:51.43 | Fisker- | google just sucks :( |
18:51.43 | harl|WoW | geez geez |
18:51.46 | harl|WoW | yea |
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18:58.08 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather aalskii |
18:58.16 | Hjalte | Hmm. Why is my recount using 82 mb while i am soloing with my voidwalker? >.< |
18:58.16 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Aalskii, Level 70 Undead Rogue (17/3/41). 6974 HP; 968 AP; 201.4 Melee DPS; 14.3% melee crit; 47 melee hit; 16.06% dodge; 37 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2780 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq4pak ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32jaz2 ][ Updated: Sun Aug 26 15:08:07 2007 ]] |
18:58.55 | Pkekyo | damn, that's sad...his account got hacked, blizz won't give him back the gear he had, so he's all green now |
18:59.10 | JoshBorke | Hjalte: when was the last time you emptied all saved fights? |
18:59.28 | Hjalte | JoshBorke.. Uh.. What's that? :P |
18:59.45 | JoshBorke | Hjalte: reset all data |
19:00.33 | Hjalte | "Reset data" ? |
19:00.37 | Awaa | [2007/08/26 20:59:05-263-x1]: SmartRes-4.0\SmartRes.lua:578: Usage: UnitIsUnit("unit", "otherUnit") |
19:02.07 | JoshBorke | Hjalte: there's a button on the recount window that lets you erase all saved data |
19:02.36 | Hjalte | JoshBorke, yeah, that's the one i found. It seems that fixed it, thanks. |
19:02.45 | JoshBorke | hjalte: np |
19:04.29 | vithos | Pkekyo: that guy needs to learn to equip gear imo |
19:04.53 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel * r47466 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
19:04.53 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-8 |
19:04.53 | CIA-14 | - improved readability of the GetLibrary func |
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19:06.13 | evl | What about LibStud? |
19:06.25 | Pkekyo | vithos: I'd rather say he needs to learn not to get hacked :> |
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19:07.04 | vithos | BankZ: it does AND them, not OR. you're probably thinking that it's searching the text of the page, which is wrong. you're searching the link text of pages that link to the page |
19:07.48 | vithos | intext:blah operator does that |
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19:15.28 | Hjalte | Does anyone know if it is possible to show my pets incoming damage in Parrot? |
19:16.03 | cncfanatics | how to round a number to its closest integrer value ? |
19:16.11 | cncfanatics | math.int exists ? |
19:16.36 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47467 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: LibStub - changed the error statements slightly. |
19:16.49 | ckknight | cncfanatics: math.floor |
19:16.57 | ckknight | cncfanatics: you can do math.floor(x + 0.5) |
19:17.00 | cncfanatics | math.floor(number +0.5) |
19:17.07 | cncfanatics | heh, exactly my thought ckknight :) |
19:17.07 | ckknight | to get asymmetric rounding |
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19:19.50 | cncfanatics | how to get only the decimal part of a number ? |
19:19.56 | cncfanatics | (or only the non decimal part) |
19:20.17 | cncfanatics | x - math.floor(x) would do I supose ? |
19:20.20 | ckknight | yea |
19:20.40 | cncfanatics | meh, I think i'm doing way too complicated for my cd numbers, but i'll show it when i'm done |
19:20.56 | nymbia | cncfanatics: number % 1 would do it too |
19:21.26 | ckknight | yea, nymbia's'd be best |
19:21.53 | cncfanatics | % is modulo ? |
19:22.17 | nymbia | yeah |
19:22.46 | cncfanatics | wait, i'll first write my code the way I thought of it |
19:24.42 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72780 decent cooldown layout func ? |
19:25.56 | cncfanatics | anyone an oppinion :) |
19:26.29 | ckknight | ding, 49 |
19:26.53 | cncfanatics | gz :p |
19:26.56 | cncfanatics | now read my func xD :p |
19:27.33 | ulic | ckknight: you accidently leveled while testing code? :P |
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19:28.39 | cncfanatics | anyone read me pastey and tell me if my code is nice & efficient enough to be called often ? (every 0.3 sec) |
19:28.39 | ckknight | yea, it happens |
19:29.28 | ckknight | ulic: mostly, I stay in heavy-populated area and kill things that come to me |
19:29.30 | ckknight | ...while coding |
19:29.56 | Xinhuan | that wouldn't be really "accidental" ;p |
19:30.22 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, mind doing something for me :p |
19:30.28 | Xinhuan | what? |
19:30.41 | Amadeo | I just saw a 38 Rogue with the same weapons I'm using at 52, is that bad? :P |
19:30.50 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72780 can you read this and tell me if it could be called every 0.3 sec multiple times (once for each button) |
19:31.03 | Xinhuan | no it just means you're lazy |
19:31.14 | Xinhuan | wait let me finish this quest, 3 min |
19:31.20 | Amadeo | I don't know where to get good upgrades |
19:31.32 | cncfanatics | quests, instances ? |
19:31.34 | Xinhuan | ask friends, guild, etc |
19:31.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: meh, don't worry about gear until 65+ :P |
19:31.44 | Xinhuan | use "Find an Upgrade" option on the armory (lol) |
19:31.53 | NightHawkTheSane | as long as your killing things, it's all good |
19:32.27 | Amadeo | That's the problem, it's getting tough :P |
19:32.38 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, AH? :P |
19:32.44 | Amadeo | I've been checking! |
19:33.11 | Amadeo | I've been trying to just get to 58 so I can go to Outlands |
19:34.45 | cncfanatics | meh, i'm bored of horde zones |
19:34.47 | cncfanatics | time to roll some ally char |
19:34.52 | cncfanatics | anyone recommend me a server ? |
19:34.55 | cncfanatics | need a change of pace to relax some |
19:35.06 | Xinhuan | ok looking |
19:36.02 | cncfanatics | supose its called, 60 times every 0.3 seconds |
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19:36.38 | cncfanatics | hmmm, you miss the :GetActionCooldown function, lemme pastey it too |
19:37.14 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, can you reload ? I added the GetActionCooldown func at the bottom |
19:37.30 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72781 new url meh wouldnt let me overwrite |
19:37.37 | Xinhuan | ok |
19:38.21 | evl | WTB Aloft-Light |
19:38.23 | evl | 600KiB |
19:38.30 | CIA-14 | 03poull * r47468 10SmartRes/SmartRes.lua: SmartRes: Seems like UnitClass updates a bit slow so color text red if class is unknown. |
19:43.01 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: is your buttons using any of the default 120 actionslots ids? |
19:43.26 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, no |
19:44.21 | Xinhuan | hmm much of that code can be shortened |
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19:45.15 | cncfanatics | what one ? |
19:47.28 | Xinhuan | hmm i'll modify it heh |
19:48.11 | cncfanatics | heh, great :) |
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20:05.53 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, got anything ? :p I might logout (or get logged out) soon |
20:06.01 | Xinhuan | just pasted a reply i think |
20:06.17 | NightHawkTheSane | haha http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/011454.html |
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20:06.53 | Xinhuan | i didn't change the :GetActionCooldown() part since that isn't really changable |
20:07.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Also,this is beautiful.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffcarlson/127632129/ |
20:07.24 | Xinhuan | you'll also want to cache a copy of FlexBar2:GetModule("ItemCache") |
20:07.28 | Xinhuan | i think |
20:07.38 | Xinhuan | and have a local copy of "floor" |
20:07.48 | Xinhuan | in file scope |
20:08.11 | cncfanatics | TimeLeft < 0 should be <= 0 no ? |
20:08.17 | Xinhuan | basically, just removed heaps of unneccessary checks in the IF brackets |
20:08.23 | Xinhuan | well yeah, change that to <= if you want |
20:08.32 | Xinhuan | but its unneccessary to check both upper/lower bounds |
20:08.44 | Xinhuan | in a IF-elseif-elseif-elseif-else statement |
20:08.44 | cncfanatics | well, if i'd want 0 to show nothing instead of 0 |
20:09.00 | Xinhuan | because you only need to check each boundary once |
20:09.05 | Xinhuan | i.e, 0, 60, 600 |
20:09.31 | cncfanatics | how fast is :GetAttribute btw ? |
20:09.37 | cncfanatics | its gonna get called a LOT from this func |
20:09.39 | Xinhuan | pretty slow |
20:09.43 | cncfanatics | meh |
20:09.44 | cncfanatics | bad idea then |
20:09.49 | Xinhuan | first its a function call |
20:09.57 | Xinhuan | second, it adds the string you pass it |
20:10.00 | Xinhuan | to create a new string |
20:10.08 | Xinhuan | then gets the attribute of that new string |
20:10.13 | Xinhuan | and returns it |
20:10.16 | cncfanatics | :GetModifiedAttribute is even worse then |
20:10.29 | cncfanatics | use the ACTIONBAR_COOLDOWN_START event maybe to call it, then cache that result |
20:10.44 | cncfanatics | and keep reusing it, so to not call it too often |
20:11.33 | Xinhuan | by the way |
20:11.34 | Xinhuan | function SecureButton_GetAttribute(frame, name) |
20:11.35 | Xinhuan | return SecureButton_GetModifiedAttribute(frame, name, nil, "", ""); |
20:11.35 | Xinhuan | end |
20:11.39 | Xinhuan | that's the function declared |
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20:11.50 | Xinhuan | i.e getting a normal attribute just calls getmodifiedattribute ;p |
20:12.27 | cncfanatics | heh, silly |
20:12.35 | Xinhuan | look in securetemplates.lua for details |
20:12.35 | cncfanatics | I do use :GetAttribute on the frame directly though |
20:12.47 | cncfanatics | this is my :GetModifiedAttribute function |
20:13.07 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72783 |
20:13.11 | Xinhuan | but there's not much you can do about it |
20:13.16 | Xinhuan | so, prob dont' worry about it |
20:13.18 | cncfanatics | well, you can NOT use the secure functions ? |
20:13.31 | cncfanatics | calling :GetAttribute on the frame should not call GetModifiedAttribute again |
20:13.37 | Xinhuan | well how are you going to get the attributes ? |
20:13.37 | cncfanatics | like I do in my func |
20:13.42 | cncfanatics | check my func |
20:14.34 | Xinhuan | could work |
20:15.28 | cncfanatics | it does :p |
20:15.32 | cncfanatics | using it for everything and it works fine |
20:15.39 | Xinhuan | try entering combat and stuff |
20:15.53 | cncfanatics | :GetAttribute is not limited in combat at all |
20:15.55 | cncfanatics | :SetAttribute is |
20:16.07 | Xinhuan | yes, hence i thought it would work |
20:16.32 | cncfanatics | I do love that function heh |
20:16.35 | cncfanatics | does all my hard work :p |
20:16.46 | cncfanatics | and handles alt-shift-ctrl clicking marvelously |
20:18.15 | Xinhuan | i merely removed a lot of checks and locals from your function, not much else |
20:18.16 | cncfanatics | now, i'm gonna go play some windows game, rebooting windows, g'night everyone |
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20:20.36 | CIA-14 | PallyPower: |
20:20.36 | CIA-14 | - Converted rank info from other players to numbers also so they can be compared when dragging people for normal blessings. |
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20:24.35 | Sarana | Anyone here having the problem with Baggins_ItemRack where the rules were showing up as ItemRack not loaded? I just uploaded a possible fix, but since I haven't seen the problem myself I'm not certain it fixes it. |
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20:27.01 | ulic | I think they just fixed that |
20:27.10 | ulic | like seconds before you connected. |
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20:45.45 | Hjalte | can anyone recommend me an alternative to Chronometer? Would like to try something else out, been using Chronometer for so long. |
20:48.24 | Funkeh` | Quartz? |
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20:56.05 | Neebler | Hjalte: classtimers |
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21:01.28 | Industrial | ckknight: ping |
21:01.38 | ckknight | pong |
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21:01.46 | Hjalte | Funkeh`, Quartz can't collect its timers in one place, can it? |
21:02.03 | Funkeh` | It only has 1 anchor |
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21:02.19 | Hjalte | And can that anchor be positioned anywhere? |
21:02.20 | Funkeh` | 1 anchor for target and 1 anchor for focus |
21:02.26 | Funkeh` | Yeah. |
21:02.39 | Industrial | ckknight: doesnt pitbull have layouts? |
21:02.48 | ckknight | yea |
21:03.06 | Industrial | then why is there a whole menu for choosing the location of an icon? doesnt that go in the layout? |
21:04.10 | Industrial | I remember you saying that pitbull was going to be a very fast and light unitframe mod |
21:05.01 | Punkie` | well its a little faster than discord UF |
21:05.01 | Industrial | with everything turned off i didnt want its still 5.7MB big :P |
21:05.23 | ckknight | that's a bit much |
21:05.28 | Gnarfoz | still not caring about static sizes... |
21:05.32 | Industrial | double if i enable everything |
21:05.40 | ckknight | for me, with a whole bunch of stuff, it's 1.5 MiB |
21:05.51 | Industrial | (wich was default) |
21:06.06 | ckknight | not everything's enabled by default. |
21:06.14 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: well as a developer i cant stop thinking about the underlying code size for it all :P |
21:06.25 | Punkie` | oUF is 55KiB and does the same thing that I want from pitbull :P |
21:06.37 | Gnarfoz | the code certainly is not 5megs big oO |
21:06.43 | JoshBorke | oUF is CRAP! |
21:07.21 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: im talking memory usage, not space disk |
21:07.30 | Punkie` | disk space? |
21:07.34 | Industrial | er, yes |
21:07.36 | Industrial | lol |
21:07.45 | Gnarfoz | space disks incoming, whooo |
21:08.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
21:08.12 | JoshBorke | static memory usage still doesn't matter that much |
21:08.12 | JoshBorke | what's more important is cpu usage and garbage generation |
21:08.27 | Industrial | I know, but why have a whole menu (+ code and system for figuring it out) for where to place one tiny icon that switched on and off |
21:08.31 | Hjalte | Funkeh`, can the quartz bars stay on the screen even if you change target? |
21:08.37 | Punkie` | pitbull grows by 1MiB per hour if you are in a raid though :P |
21:08.39 | Industrial | instead of one static SetPoint in a layout file? |
21:08.40 | JoshBorke | Hjalte: no |
21:09.01 | Funkeh` | Hjalte: no |
21:10.42 | ckknight | Punkie`: that's not too bad, really |
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21:10.48 | Punkie` | well it is |
21:10.52 | ckknight | 1 MiB/hour isn't too extravagant |
21:11.01 | Punkie` | considering oUF and perfect raid do not grow anywhere near that much |
21:11.11 | Punkie` | 1 hour = 10KiB give or take |
21:11.12 | Punkie` | total |
21:11.36 | ckknight | clearly, PitBull should just force a GC every 10 minutes to keep people like you from making noises |
21:11.53 | Punkie` | no, that would be ridiculous |
21:12.05 | ckknight | I know. |
21:12.36 | Industrial | whats the idea behind it? encapsulating technology with userfriendlier menu's so the majority doesnt have to learn how to make a layout for themselves (wich is really lazy)? |
21:13.08 | Industrial | the downsize is very unpretty addons (imho) |
21:13.12 | Industrial | side |
21:13.14 | Diao | do mighty rage potions |
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21:13.17 | Diao | share a cd with health pots |
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21:13.49 | Xinhuan | yes |
21:14.00 | Diao | :( |
21:14.20 | ckknight | unlike you, Industrial, I don't believe my users have to learn lua to get the addon to do what they watn |
21:14.54 | ckknight | want* |
21:15.47 | Industrial | then, what is the purpose of layouts in pitbull? |
21:16.18 | ckknight | to lay things out the way people want |
21:16.26 | ckknight | move icons in different places, etc. |
21:16.31 | ckknight | because not everyone has the same taste |
21:16.32 | ulic | Industrial: you can design it in game then save it out. |
21:16.35 | Industrial | then, why are there also menus to move those individual pieces? |
21:16.41 | Yssaril | ckknight: are you gonna eventually add the Register & Open Arguments page to the dewdrop wiki again? |
21:16.49 | ckknight | *shrug* |
21:17.27 | ckknight | Yssaril: what I'll likely do is redo it for Joker and document in the code with Autodoc |
21:17.35 | Industrial | 2 words, feature creep. And that is unpretty. |
21:18.12 | ckknight | *shrug* it's modular, turn off the things you don't want |
21:18.26 | Gnarfoz | the conclusion as to why you don't understand it, has already been said in the last 5 minutes |
21:18.29 | Gnarfoz | >_< |
21:19.15 | Ominous | ckknight: how is Joker coming on btw? |
21:19.19 | ckknight | quite well |
21:19.29 | ckknight | all the major pieces are in place, it just needs some tweaking |
21:19.33 | Industrial | "its modular" is not an excuse, and doesnt apply to what I was talking about. if I disable the module the icon will be gone forever, but I'm talking about the functionality of placing it somewhere around the unitframe. |
21:19.37 | ckknight | and I'm gonna incorporate LibStub into it once that API has been frozen |
21:19.59 | Ominous | what is LibStub? |
21:20.32 | ckknight | Ominous: a cross-community minimalistic library versioning system |
21:21.00 | Ominous | hmm, not sure i understand |
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21:21.13 | Gnarfoz | it's modular was not the answer. layout options are there to create layouts. what's difficult about that? |
21:21.44 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: that i can also move stuff from a menu outside of the layout |
21:22.37 | Yssaril | Industrial: so you are complaining that you can change options form multiple places? |
21:22.43 | Gnarfoz | sounds like it |
21:22.50 | Industrial | yes, thats unpretty design wise |
21:22.54 | Industrial | more isnt better |
21:23.22 | Chaotic_D | well, taking off the optional dependencies seemed to help the modifications I made to the addon. it works really good now. ^_^ I really like having Cartographer's arrow pointing towards my next quest objective, with both the quest name and NPC name on it. |
21:23.35 | Yssaril | depends how you do it and for my taste i have thought that it made sese the way pitbull does its options |
21:23.53 | ulic | I don't see what's so bad about it, options for each frame + Global, it makes sense to me. |
21:23.53 | Yssaril | i dont always want to enter config mode to change things |
21:24.01 | ckknight | actually seeing as movement options are in the layout and individual options are in the modules themselves, it merges them, so that it's in the same place to the user |
21:24.05 | ckknight | which, imho, is the best solution |
21:24.19 | ckknight | since the layout objects need to interact with each other |
21:24.59 | Industrial | okay, well thats a good answer. |
21:25.38 | ckknight | if the movement and positioning were all independent, then it would be in the modules themselves, but it's not, they're all inter-related |
21:25.44 | ckknight | so there has to be some form of communication |
21:26.00 | ckknight | and by having the layout set up a proper infrastructure, the communication between layout objects becomes minimal |
21:27.05 | Yssaril | ckknight ever thought of giving pitbull a gui config instead of the dropdowns? |
21:27.10 | ckknight | oh yea |
21:27.14 | ckknight | well, you can use waterfall now |
21:33.37 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
21:33.40 | Industrial | wups |
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21:45.16 | Hjalte | Can anyone recommend me somewhere online that i can log in and write down homework and such, and then check up on it later? |
21:46.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Hjalte: google documents? |
21:47.00 | kebinusan | google documents thingo |
21:47.22 | NightHawkTheSane | http://docs.google.com/ |
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21:47.57 | Hjalte | Ah, I don't mean like that. More like a calendar, where i can write what we are to read for next tuesday and the like :) |
21:48.04 | NightHawkTheSane | google calendar? |
21:48.24 | kebinusan | gmail, address to self :-) |
21:48.29 | kebinusan | or that |
21:48.51 | NightHawkTheSane | I, for one, welcome our new google overlords. |
21:49.02 | Hjalte | Bah, Google has everything. |
21:49.14 | kebinusan | Im waiting for porn.goggle.com |
21:50.24 | Chaotic_D | booble.com |
21:50.41 | kebinusan | oh yeah thats where fark boobies spawned off to |
21:52.22 | Pkekyo | http://orz.4chan.org/d/src/1188163225569.jpg :> |
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21:54.27 | cryogen | does wow delete your combat log logfile when it exits? oO |
21:55.26 | Nickenyfiken | What's your favorite mailbox addon? |
21:56.13 | NightHawkTheSane | bm2 is nice |
22:00.07 | Cyre2 | BM2 + BM2_Inbox |
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22:00.25 | NightHawkTheSane | doesn't bm2 have the inbox part integrated? |
22:00.54 | Cyre2 | IDTS... |
22:01.32 | Cyre2 | I used Postal before that came along. |
22:01.33 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, yeah, it used to |
22:01.48 | NightHawkTheSane | then he split it out cause he added a bunch of stuff |
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22:03.38 | Cyre2 | How many are in #wowace-cia? ^^ |
22:05.47 | NightHawkTheSane | 36? |
22:06.07 | Cyre2 | Hit 40 this morning. :) |
22:06.26 | NightHawkTheSane | what's different about the CIA in there, as opposed to the one here? |
22:06.44 | Diao | nothing |
22:06.45 | kebinusan | he has longer line limit |
22:06.53 | Diao | the channel is +m though so you can't talk |
22:06.53 | kebinusan | or no line limit on commit messages I forget |
22:07.00 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting |
22:07.04 | Diao | so you can see all the updates without interference |
22:07.08 | Cyre2 | It has an 80-line limit, currently. |
22:07.45 | Cyre2 | I'm the channel owner. ^^ |
22:07.55 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47471 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Shahraz.lua Souls.lua): |
22:07.55 | CIA-14 | BigWigs: BlackTemple: |
22:07.55 | CIA-14 | - Shahraz: speedup FA warning |
22:07.55 | CIA-14 | - Souls: speedup Spite warning |
22:08.38 | Cyre2 | I had to leave him on because if the bot DC's and has to come back in it needs a +v and I couldn't do it with ChanServ so my client does it. |
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22:09.08 | Cyre2 | At my sister's. Taking a little vacation. :-) |
22:09.31 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm pretty sure no one asked that question. ::P |
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22:09.50 | Cyre2 | What question? |
22:10.34 | harldephin | correct. |
22:11.07 | Saint-N | is she hot? |
22:11.07 | Cyre2 | I should've just brought my passwords. >< |
22:11.15 | Saint-N | and why havent you posted pics yet |
22:11.27 | Cyre2 | She's got a boyfriend. |
22:11.30 | Saint-N | so? |
22:11.32 | Cyre2 | And he's giving me a computer. |
22:11.44 | Cyre2 | Soon. |
22:11.45 | Cyre2 | <3 |
22:12.12 | Saint-N | that still doesnt answer the is she hot question and the "gimme pics" statements |
22:12.19 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. boyfriends can be.. eliminated. |
22:12.43 | harldephin | in the end, there's one question left: does it really matter? |
22:13.17 | Saint-N | well yes |
22:13.21 | Saint-N | porn is porn ;P |
22:13.31 | Pkekyo | did I hear someone say porn? |
22:13.32 | Saint-N | and if yu're not using your BW for porn get off the internet |
22:13.53 | Cyre2 | Her boyfriend isn't going anywhere, tho. |
22:14.05 | Saint-N | if it wasnt for pornography we wouldnt have broadband |
22:14.05 | Cyre2 | They're gonna get married eventually. |
22:14.07 | Saint-N | at home |
22:14.10 | Saint-N | for cheap |
22:14.10 | Cyre2 | http://www.myspace.com/skinandjewelry |
22:14.54 | Saint-N | go smack the back of her head and tell her nickleback is ass ;P |
22:15.01 | Pkekyo | I've -run out- of things to do :< |
22:15.22 | Saint-N | "so the way i feel when im drunk is correct?" "yes except that the dave matthews band does NOT rule" |
22:16.12 | Cyre2 | She said "But I like Nickleback..." in a sad kiddie voice. |
22:16.36 | Saint-N | http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/ |
22:17.00 | Saint-N | that should help pkekyo |
22:17.05 | Saint-N | go read that it's awesome |
22:17.08 | harldephin | haha! and then a rice bag fell over.. -.- |
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22:17.41 | Funkeh` | hey nymbia |
22:17.50 | nymbia | yo |
22:18.04 | Saint-N | lets play a game |
22:18.14 | Saint-N | make as many anagrams from nymbia's name as you can |
22:18.17 | Saint-N | ready go! |
22:18.27 | Funkeh` | sex |
22:18.38 | Pkekyo | anagrams? |
22:18.49 | Saint-N | Funkeh`: are you taking over for fisker while he's away? |
22:19.12 | Funkeh` | Saint-N: no, nymbia is jsut sex. |
22:19.13 | Saint-N | remix the letteres to form dirrect words using all the letters each time |
22:19.40 | Saint-N | ewwww |
22:19.44 | nymbia | hot |
22:19.52 | Saint-N | yer gonna get stuble rash |
22:19.58 | Saint-N | on yer weiner |
22:19.59 | NightHawkTheSane | meh. Funkeh`'s leg was better. |
22:20.00 | harldephin | some people just don't deserve their "BW". i'm sure. |
22:20.19 | Saint-N | no-one relaly deserves BW |
22:20.21 | Saint-N | really |
22:20.29 | Saint-N | some just deserve it a lot less |
22:20.44 | Saint-N | welp time to wander home |
22:20.47 | Saint-N | seeyas |
22:21.30 | Pkekyo | BW? |
22:21.30 | CIA-14 | 03thexod * r47472 10ItemValue/ (BestItems.lua ItemValue.lua): |
22:21.30 | CIA-14 | ItemValue: |
22:21.30 | CIA-14 | - Bestjewels now round as it should |
22:21.31 | CIA-14 | - Now using Gratuity to scan for tooltip text color, too |
22:21.31 | CIA-14 | - Fixed error involving non-equipped items |
22:22.12 | harldephin | dunno. Saint-N meant to use it for "bandwidth", i guess. |
22:22.15 | Pkekyo | "Margret thinks I'm vain because... I use a mirror when I shave. During this argument in the bathroom" |
22:22.45 | orionshock | how is local db = ReportAFK.db.profile attempting to index a nil? |
22:23.07 | orionshock | everyone else does it, wtf? |
22:24.06 | orionshock | nevermind.. found what i was doing wrong |
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22:31.07 | CIA-14 | 03anaram * r47473 10GridStatusLifebloom/GridStatusLifebloom.lua: GridStatusLifebloom - added experimental option to display time as global cooldowns instead of seconds. |
22:33.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yay! cantaloupe! |
22:34.42 | ckknight | yay! |
22:35.24 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47474 10GridStatusHealingReduced/ (. Core.lua GridStatusHealingReduced.toc ReadMe.txt): |
22:35.24 | CIA-14 | GridStatusHealingReduced: initial commit |
22:35.24 | CIA-14 | - Adds status indicators to Grid for debuffs that reduce or prevent healing taken. |
22:36.13 | ckknight | Pkekyo: I don't get it. |
22:37.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i wonder how salt would taste on this |
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22:37.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ...not as good as on watermelon, but not terrible |
22:46.38 | Pkekyo | ckknight: don't get what? |
22:46.55 | ckknight | <Pkekyo> "Margret thinks I'm vain because... I use a mirror when I shave. During this argument in the bathroom" |
22:47.35 | Pkekyo | quote from http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/ :> |
22:48.01 | Pkekyo | everything from behind 'shave' shouldn't have been included in the quote though |
22:48.12 | mort | weeeee kael'thas at 22% :) |
22:48.31 | Pkekyo | " 'Hello, Papa - I've missed you,' he shouts. From within the living room Margret's voice calls out to him 'No you haven't, Peter.' " |
22:48.52 | harldephin | oO |
22:49.31 | Pkekyo | now that's parenting |
22:53.15 | NightHawkTheSane | "The government of china does not believe in keeping secrets from its people." hahaha. yeaaah... |
22:53.29 | mort | stargate? |
22:55.17 | Funkeh` | ofc |
22:55.37 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a clip show, but its still vaguely amusing |
22:56.03 | ennuilg | Is there a built-in function to convert bool to string on the fly? It's a simple function to write, but I don't want to use five tokens where one will do! :-) |
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23:01.30 | ckknight | tostring, ennuilg |
23:01.36 | ckknight | tostring(true) == "true" |
23:01.39 | ckknight | tostring(false) == "false" |
23:01.53 | ckknight | works on everything |
23:02.18 | ennuilg | Thanks ckknight. I knew there had to be something - just couldn't find it myself. |
23:02.39 | ckknight | you should read http://www.lua.org/pil if you haven't yet |
23:03.24 | ennuilg | I was looking at /manual - but will take a look at /pil too. Thanks. |
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23:04.41 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47475 10OnScreenHealth/ (OnScreenHealth.lua OnScreenHealth.toc): |
23:04.41 | CIA-14 | OnScreenHealth: |
23:04.41 | CIA-14 | - Fixed error in setting health color mode |
23:04.41 | CIA-14 | - Added some debugging for SML font support |
23:11.59 | NightHawkTheSane | You know, it's really stunning how many high-level favors and connections general hammond has. |
23:12.19 | Pkekyo | Direct X is backwards-compatible, no? |
23:12.22 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: agreed |
23:12.41 | NightHawkTheSane | it really almost borders on deus ex machina at times. |
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23:13.44 | genetik- | anyone know how to change which chat frame that system messages display to? |
23:13.45 | CIA-14 | 03ennuilg * r47476 10scorchio/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
23:13.45 | CIA-14 | scorchio: |
23:13.45 | CIA-14 | - Run hasImpScorch as a function to improve reliability of check. |
23:13.45 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
23:13.47 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
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23:18.53 | Funkeh` | later |
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23:19.48 | Amadeo | Warning: Don't try to solo Shadra at 53 :P |
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23:23.41 | Pkekyo | anyone here familliar with ObjectDock? |
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23:36.05 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel * r47477 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
23:36.05 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-8 |
23:36.05 | CIA-14 | - consistency among error message quotes |
23:36.59 | Pkekyo | http://orz.4chan.org/wg/src/1188165912799.png |
23:37.32 | ckknight | nevcairiel: in Blizzard's error messages, the method name shows as `NewLibrary', not 'NewLibrary' |
23:37.40 | nevcairiel | so? |
23:38.08 | nevcairiel | it just looks funny |
23:38.15 | nevcairiel | i bet its a typo on blizzards part! |
23:38.36 | ckknight | it's not |
23:38.48 | ckknight | it looks better ingame |
23:38.55 | ckknight | where it actually matters |
23:39.15 | ckknight | and error catchers like BugSack, etc. color grouping the ` and ' |
23:39.26 | Pkekyo | Sense. - We make none! |
23:40.30 | ckknight | http://stopgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/sense.jpg |
23:40.53 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not a typo, afaik, ` is used as a leading quote when "smart quotes" arnt available |
23:40.59 | ckknight | yea |
23:41.03 | NightHawkTheSane | (and, to be sure,they're not in standard ascii, iirc) |
23:41.14 | ckknight | smart quotes aren't |
23:41.17 | ckknight | ` and ' are |
23:41.22 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, thats what I meant. |
23:41.31 | ckknight | k |
23:41.41 | Pkekyo | I hate my school's network admin :< |
23:41.54 | Pkekyo | he's forcing everyone to run fucking vista >.< |
23:42.33 | ckknight | srsly? |
23:42.55 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you mean by "forcing everyone" |
23:43.00 | Amadeo | Yeah, what's that mean? |
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23:43.41 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: well, he won't support anything but vista, and will attempt to exclude systems running any other OS |
23:43.52 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel * r47478 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
23:43.52 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-8 |
23:43.52 | CIA-14 | - change the quote back, because blizzard thinks its cool, and since my last commit aimed for consistency .. we go consistent with them |
23:43.52 | Pkekyo | dunno how he's gonna do it, but that's what he says... |
23:43.53 | Pkekyo | goddamn fanboy cunt |
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23:44.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: well, if they're the school's own computers, that's 100% justifiable |
23:44.10 | Cyre2 | Colorful language, lol. |
23:44.29 | Cyre2 | Yeah, they can do what they want. >< |
23:44.41 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: he's still a fucking cunt |
23:44.48 | Cyre2 | Get a Linux LiveCD. |
23:44.51 | NightHawkTheSane | If the school has a policy of allowing personal computers on it's network, then not supporting non-vista os's, while justifiable, is really just douchbaggery :P |
23:44.56 | Pkekyo | Cyre2: I have millions |
23:45.08 | Cyre2 | ^^ |
23:45.50 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: he installed vista on all the workstations in our sound studio last spring....it completely fucked up all our work on our audio projects... |
23:45.51 | Pkekyo | the main problem is, we work on hardware that is not -in any way- supposed to run windows vista |
23:46.11 | NightHawkTheSane | well that's another issue entirely |
23:46.25 | NightHawkTheSane | and not neccesarily the sysadmin's fault |
23:46.25 | Pkekyo | hence: he's a cunt :> |
23:46.29 | Pkekyo | yes it is |
23:46.32 | NightHawkTheSane | are you sure? |
23:46.44 | Pkekyo | it's his decision to enforce windows vista |
23:46.45 | NightHawkTheSane | there's a number of other reasons why it might not be? |
23:47.29 | Pkekyo | we've been running win xp for years now, everyone's happy with it, it works fine for everything we use it for. we even begged him to let us keep it, but the bastard wouldn't even hear it... |
23:47.49 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt use vista anywhere |
23:47.51 | Cyre2 | What a dumbass. |
23:47.55 | NightHawkTheSane | It could be a lack of funding, or a lack of approved funding for new machines, it could be a policy sent down by superiors to run vista, there's number of things that are outside a sysadmin's control |
23:48.05 | Cyre2 | Vista is worse than Windows ME. |
23:48.15 | Cyre2 | And that saying a lot. |
23:48.18 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt say that |
23:48.20 | Cyre2 | *that's |
23:48.28 | nevcairiel | its not too bad, it just needs a service pack :P |
23:48.33 | Pkekyo | nevcairiel: my brother just got a laptop with vista on, I was supposed to help him set it up...after 20min I was about to throw the sod out the window (both my brother and his laptop, aye) |
23:49.03 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: no, it's not a policy sent down by superiors, which would exclude the lack of funding for vista compatible hardware policy |
23:50.00 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm just saying don't always be so quick to blame an individual for things that may be outside their control :P |
23:50.36 | Cyre2 | I'm sticking with Win2K. |
23:51.04 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: well, I know him, and the board of my school, and he's a fanboy cunt that runs around drooling over anything labeled 'Microsoft' whilst burning the money in the school's budget |
23:51.23 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, sylvanaar works at your school? ;) |
23:51.41 | Cyre2 | BURN!!!!!12 |
23:51.53 | Pkekyo | not that I know...? |
23:51.57 | nevcairiel | lol NightHawkTheSane |
23:51.59 | NightHawkTheSane | (i was joking :P) |
23:52.24 | Pkekyo | no you were not |
23:52.29 | Pkekyo | nowai |
23:53.45 | Pkekyo | meh, the sysadmin is a dickwad |
23:54.15 | NightHawkTheSane | is there a way to specify a particular shapeshift form in a macro conditional? |
23:54.32 | NightHawkTheSane | also, wow i mangled that sentence. >< |
23:54.40 | Amadeo | Mangle is a Druid ability |
23:54.44 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: Vista is making my next computer become a mac :p |
23:54.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: yay! |
23:55.00 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: ditto |
23:55.14 | Pkekyo | I'm sitting ready to order it...but cba to get any more debt |
23:55.14 | Amadeo | Apple could make my next computer become a Mac if they start putting in top of the line video options, or at least nearly :P |
23:55.18 | Cyre2 | I love Macs, they just don't let me do everything I like to do. |
23:55.33 | Punkie` | Amadeo: If you only play WoW, you'd be surprised how well it runs |
23:55.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: er, buy 3rd party? :P |
23:55.43 | Punkie` | NightHawkTheSane: you can't |
23:55.45 | ckknight | I have a mac |
23:55.48 | Punkie` | at least for an iMac |
23:55.53 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, fuck imacs. |
23:55.53 | TNSe | NightHawkTheSane, [stance:x9 |
23:55.55 | TNSe | NightHawkTheSane, [stance:x] |
23:55.55 | Punkie` | it's a chip on the logic board |
23:56.01 | NightHawkTheSane | you don't get an imac because of it's video card. |
23:56.03 | ckknight | get a Mac Pro or a MacBook Pro |
23:56.07 | ckknight | its |
23:56.08 | Amadeo | Well, I was actually hoping they put a better one in the MB Pro :) |
23:56.16 | NightHawkTheSane | TNSe: danke |
23:56.28 | Punkie` | ckknight: both are fine if you are happy to splash out |
23:56.37 | NightHawkTheSane | if you're buying a mac that's not easily upgradable, it's really your own damn fault |
23:56.39 | ckknight | I have a MacBook Pro |
23:56.44 | ckknight | I need to upgrade its ram |
23:56.54 | Amadeo | How much do you have? |
23:56.55 | Punkie` | never buy ram from apple |
23:56.57 | ckknight | put a 2 GiB stick in |
23:56.59 | ckknight | I have 1 GiB |
23:57.02 | ckknight | Punkie`: I know |
23:57.07 | Punkie` | get it from crucial or so |
23:57.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: it's rarely worth buying much of anything extra from apple. |
23:57.31 | Punkie` | well I would love a mac pro |
23:57.34 | NightHawkTheSane | you can always get the exact same parts cheaper elsewhere. |
23:57.38 | Pkekyo | chances is you can get it at half the price from any other hardware supplier |
23:57.40 | Amadeo | Is the Mac Mini going to be discontinued? |
23:57.40 | NightHawkTheSane | <3's OWC. |
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23:57.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: doubtful. |
23:57.48 | Punkie` | but I am not going to shell out £6000 for a decent machine :P |
23:58.23 | Punkie` | I'd just have the iMac for £1k which can run wow, final cut and such :P |
23:58.27 | Mecdemort | ckknight: What kind of stuff goes inside the data {} of the tablet register? |
23:58.36 | Amadeo | what's the video in the iMac? |
23:58.57 | Punkie` | some £70 ATI card |
23:59.02 | ckknight | Mecdemort: I'm not sure, there's a lot |
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23:59.09 | Punkie` | 2600 HD or somethign |
23:59.16 | Pkekyo | £70 ATI cards = win |
23:59.19 | Amadeo | iMac would be a great computer for my father |
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23:59.28 | Mecdemort | ckknight: is it defined anywhere? i cant find anything referencing it |
23:59.47 | ckknight | in the wiki, which crashed |
23:59.56 | Punkie` | I just want a new iMac anyway, even the keyboard is sexy :P |