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| 00:02.45 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r47221 10beql/ (3 files in 2 dirs): beql: - update koKR locals |
| 00:03.46 | Mecdemort | is there a way to apply tostring to a whole list? or do i just need to do it in a for loop |
| 00:03.59 | ckknight | for loop |
| 00:04.01 | ckknight | it's not too bad. |
| 00:04.09 | ckknight | for i,v in ipairs(t) do t[i] = tostring(v) end |
| 00:04.14 | Mecdemort | ya i know |
| 00:04.36 | Mecdemort | wasnt sure if there was a mapcar function in lua tho |
| 00:05.06 | ckknight | there's not |
| 00:05.13 | ckknight | mapcar? |
| 00:05.21 | ckknight | what's the car for? |
| 00:05.32 | ckknight | lispism? |
| 00:05.34 | Mecdemort | its from list, car stands for the first part of a list |
| 00:05.38 | Mecdemort | lisp* |
| 00:05.50 | ckknight | my other car is a cdr |
| 00:05.56 | Mecdemort | yup |
| 00:06.03 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:07.42 | Mecdemort | its just one of those functions i'd have expected them to implement in C and be fast and everything |
| 00:09.10 | ckknight | there's table.foreach and all |
| 00:09.22 | ckknight | but it's actually a pain, since it requires a function callback |
| 00:09.29 | ckknight | which most typically make on the spot |
| 00:09.32 | ckknight | which creates garbage |
| 00:09.39 | ckknight | so it's recommended to use for loops |
| 00:10.29 | Mecdemort | ya thats what it says in the api, strange |
| 00:10.55 | sylvanaar | mapcar is that like onstar |
| 00:11.50 | sylvanaar | what does it do thats so great |
| 00:12.27 | Mecdemort | maps a function to each value in a list |
| 00:12.47 | ckknight | it's in python as map, but Guido wants to get rid of it for Python 3k |
| 00:13.03 | sylvanaar | like a jump table? |
| 00:13.04 | Mecdemort | bah why would he do such a thing |
| 00:13.23 | ckknight | because it's not needed by most people when for loops are sufficient |
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| 00:13.55 | ckknight | Mecdemort: local function map(t, func) for i,v in ipairs(t) do t[i] = func(v) end end |
| 00:13.56 | ckknight | done. |
| 00:14.16 | Mecdemort | if he did that then [map(func, list)] would become [func(v) for v in list] |
| 00:14.50 | JoshBorke | local function map(t, func) if type(t) == "table" and type(func) == "function" then...end end |
| 00:14.57 | sylvanaar | ok its some sort of dispatch mechanism |
| 00:15.32 | ckknight | Mecdemort: yea, that a problem? |
| 00:15.39 | Mecdemort | lol no |
| 00:15.51 | Mecdemort | after i wrote it out i realized it actually looks cleaner |
| 00:16.03 | ckknight | yea. |
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| 00:28.57 | mjc | http://www.moanmyip.com/ |
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| 00:37.53 | rubik | lol |
| 00:41.41 | Boubouille | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=736.0 |
| 00:47.04 | [dRaCo] | you're flaming your translators? ^^ |
| 00:49.08 | Mudkips | lol |
| 00:49.42 | Mudkips | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102086 vs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102057 |
| 00:50.14 | [dRaCo] | so what? |
| 00:50.46 | [dRaCo] | the non-pro version is 15$ cheaper |
| 00:50.56 | [dRaCo] | pretty much what you'd expect |
| 00:51.20 | Mudkips | I'm leaning on the non pro |
| 00:51.45 | ckknight | so I want to get a 2 GiB stick of RAM for my MacBook Pro |
| 00:51.48 | Mudkips | the only difference is GDDR3 memory and the memory clock |
| 00:52.03 | ckknight | anyone have any ideas where I would get that at a non-horrendous price? |
| 00:52.07 | ckknight | I can install it myself et al |
| 00:52.11 | Ordog | "the only difference" |
| 00:52.35 | Mudkips | oh and maybe the core gpu |
| 00:52.42 | Ordog | that difference can make the difference between plaqyable and unplayable ^^ |
| 00:52.55 | [dRaCo] | I'd spent those 15$... you'll bite your ass later on if you decide to save those few bucks. |
| 00:53.17 | Ordog | i wouldnt even buy that thing -.- |
| 00:53.37 | [dRaCo] | well, that's something completely different :þ |
| 00:53.53 | Ordog | get a HD2600 if you want to stick with ati, everything below is going to be replaced pretty quick anyway |
| 00:54.12 | Mudkips | note aging agp build |
| 00:54.37 | Ordog | hm |
| 00:55.04 | Ordog | theres an agp version of the 2600 |
| 00:57.09 | Ordog | i think ... |
| 00:57.41 | Mudkips | dammit even the geforce 8600gt is 114.099 but its pci-e :( |
| 00:57.46 | Mudkips | I would totally buy that |
| 00:58.01 | Mudkips | extra zero in there o_o |
| 00:58.13 | Ordog | GigaByte RX26P512H |
| 00:58.25 | Ordog | is agp e.g. |
| 00:58.28 | Mudkips | even ddr2 memory is crazy cheap sub 100$ for a 2x 1g sticks |
| 00:59.24 | Ordog | its only HD2600PRO but ... 512mb ram |
| 00:59.35 | Ordog | and that for around 77€ |
| 00:59.45 | Mudkips | newegg doesn't have any agp at all |
| 00:59.57 | Mudkips | for that model |
| 01:00.32 | Ordog | oh its a special offer, streetprice is 99€ |
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| 01:02.12 | sb | mh |
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| 01:02.17 | sb | wonder what to buy |
| 01:02.26 | sb | 1950 or 8600 :/ |
| 01:03.03 | ckknight | is CIA not working? |
| 01:03.14 | ckknight | I just did a commit to Joker and it wasn't reported |
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| 01:04.02 | sylvanaar | its clogged up |
| 01:04.04 | Ordog | sb thats a money question |
| 01:04.35 | Ordog | hm or well its a dx10 or not question right? ^^ |
| 01:04.50 | Mudkips | dx 10 ~_~ |
| 01:05.14 | sb | Ordog: no money quests, no big difference there |
| 01:05.29 | sb | its 'low' dx10 vs. 'high' dx9 |
| 01:06.04 | Ordog | performance difference isnt that big ... |
| 01:06.26 | sb | i know... |
| 01:07.35 | sb | and you wont need dx10 for a while... |
| 01:07.45 | sb | but *sigh* i think 1950 performance is > 8600 |
| 01:07.59 | Mudkips | which versions? |
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| 01:08.32 | Ordog | any versions i guess |
| 01:09.50 | Mudkips | yeah 1950 is superior |
| 01:10.04 | RaydenUnicyclist | can a mind controlled mob open a chest? |
| 01:10.25 | Mudkips | nope |
| 01:10.32 | Mudkips | usually you can only do their pet actions |
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| 01:11.27 | Ordog | http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/07/24/hd_2600_and_geforce_8600/page6.html |
| 01:12.19 | Ordog | hd2600 doesnt really rock there |
| 01:13.34 | sb | mh Mudkips - so "RX1950PRO" is fine? |
| 01:13.40 | Ordog | x1950xtx rocks ... |
| 01:13.46 | sb | (512mb) |
| 01:13.49 | sb | xtx? hm |
| 01:13.51 | Mudkips | well its runs circles around 8600gt by far |
| 01:14.03 | Mudkips | the 7900gt did better than the 8600 |
| 01:14.06 | Cyrez | ckknight: CIA's site is timing out. They must be having server/ISP woes. |
| 01:14.13 | sb | Mudkips: same with 1950 |
| 01:14.22 | ckknight | hrm, lame |
| 01:14.28 | ckknight | I fixed a race condition, though... |
| 01:14.33 | Cyrez | I can't get even get to the login screen. |
| 01:14.38 | Ordog | will go for a 8800gts 320mb i guess ... |
| 01:14.48 | sb | mhmm... |
| 01:14.51 | Cyrez | You're welcome to post info about your commits in the channel. |
| 01:14.56 | ckknight | on my birthday, even |
| 01:15.08 | Cyrez | That's partly why I gave ya ops. ;) |
| 01:15.30 | Cyrez | And so somebody can +v the bot in the rare event I'm not on and it has to rejoin. |
| 01:15.33 | Ordog | theres no other board out there that would survive longer than a year (propapbly with thumbs holding...) |
| 01:16.15 | Ordog | being still affordable for a student that is ;) |
| 01:16.33 | sb | well 1950PRO is ~170 eur, 8800 gts is ~270 eur |
| 01:16.58 | sb | and HD2900XT is 370 eur ;p |
| 01:17.09 | sb | *sigh* |
| 01:17.29 | sb | uhm... happy b'day then ckknight!? :P |
| 01:18.54 | Mudkips | pro should be fine |
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| 01:19.09 | Mudkips | just compare prices with the xt versions and see how much of a difference there is |
| 01:19.12 | sb | hm |
| 01:19.18 | ckknight | also, ding, 47 |
| 01:19.35 | sb | Mudkips: 6600GT at the moment - and its *!&$( slow :p |
| 01:19.40 | sb | errr 6800 |
| 01:19.55 | Mudkips | hell I'm using 9500 pro flashed to a 9700 |
| 01:20.05 | Mudkips | its holding out but jesus is shattrath laggy |
| 01:20.18 | sb | well shattrat is okay.. but the point is |
| 01:20.25 | Mudkips | I can't stand it anymore and knowing that I won't be doing a full upgrade for at least a year... I need a new vid card to keep me going |
| 01:20.29 | sb | i cant play games other than wow |
| 01:20.41 | sb | because with 20" lcd i'm stuck at 1600x1200 |
| 01:20.45 | Mudkips | on a 6800? dang |
| 01:20.49 | Mudkips | oh that sucks :P |
| 01:20.54 | sb | tried bioshock demo today.... |
| 01:21.11 | Mudkips | well bioshock would definitely kick your ass at that resolution with that card hands down |
| 01:21.18 | sb | right :p |
| 01:21.27 | Mudkips | any titles that came out in 2007 are will really rock you performance wise |
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| 01:21.50 | sb | yup, oblivion too :p |
| 01:21.54 | sb | unplayable... |
| 01:22.39 | sb | well - and i will get 2nd lcd in 1-2 weeks |
| 01:22.43 | sb | so its 3200x1200 then |
| 01:22.55 | sb | and i think wow is going to lag :p |
| 01:23.18 | sb | so i need some graphics update |
| 01:23.45 | Mudkips | ya I still wonder what really holds down WoW |
| 01:24.14 | Mudkips | if you have midranged cpu, RAM, and vidcard ( which piece would give you the most for the upgrade ) |
| 01:24.23 | Mudkips | I think its the RAM |
| 01:24.58 | Mudkips | for loading that raid of alliance about to own me in front of SSC |
| 01:25.25 | sb | hmm.. i did cpu and ram - and its like 40-50 frames in wow except in some fights like morogrim :/ its down to 15-20 there *sigh* |
| 01:27.24 | Wobwork | http://mmovie.voig.com/ |
| 01:27.30 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47225 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: Lets assume for a moment that paladins can tank and see if this works or if things blow up. |
| 01:27.52 | Cyrez | It's ALIVE! |
| 01:28.51 | Mudkips | the reliquary in BT is even worse than morogrim |
| 01:28.53 | sb | Wobwork: great :) |
| 01:29.09 | Mudkips | with that huge glowing cage thing in my screen |
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| 01:33.26 | sb | Wobwork: wtb that movie :p |
| 01:37.50 | sb | meh Ordog - no chance to get 1950XTX :/ |
| 01:40.53 | Wobwork | sb: totally =) |
| 01:41.01 | Wobwork | They did -really- well with that trailer =) |
| 01:41.10 | Wobwork | It'll be like the 'scary movie' franchise |
| 01:41.14 | Wobwork | except much much cooler |
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| 01:57.53 | charon | Antiar2: moer pingz |
| 02:00.12 | ulic | I haven't seen him all day |
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| 02:03.09 | charon | hm :( |
| 02:03.27 | charon | i've made another omen patch yet he hasn't had the time to look at the first |
| 02:09.01 | charon | !tell Antiarc http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/omen-threatbar-colors-2.diff (replaces the first one; supports setting defaults under Skin) |
| 02:09.33 | ulic | what's the best way to skill up a weapon that you've neglected? |
| 02:10.04 | charon | !botmail for Antiarc http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/omen-threatbar-colors-2.diff (replaces the first one; supports setting defaults under Skin) |
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| 02:10.33 | charon | oh, purl's prefix isn't !, is it |
| 02:11.02 | AnduinLothar | ~ |
| 02:11.13 | charon | if anyone else wants to give that patch a try, feel free, but the patch is in the "wrong" directory |
| 02:11.24 | charon | it also breaks localization on anything but english |
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| 02:11.42 | Wobwork | ulic: what level are you? |
| 02:11.52 | Wobwork | and class? |
| 02:11.54 | ulic | 69 |
| 02:11.57 | ulic | shammy |
| 02:12.07 | Wobwork | head to shadowlabs |
| 02:12.19 | Wobwork | and auto attack the mobs outside the instance |
| 02:12.41 | ulic | oh yea, the ones that fight the npcs |
| 02:12.54 | Wobwork | That's why I like being a hunter =) |
| 02:13.03 | Wobwork | 1.5second weapon levels =) |
| 02:13.23 | Wobwork | and with aspect of the viper, you can go almost indefinitely |
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| 02:15.28 | charon | good night |
| 02:15.37 | ulic | have a good on |
| 02:15.39 | ulic | e |
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| 02:16.43 | CC--home | how do u change the color of the fonts for WitchHunt? |
| 02:17.22 | ulic | CC--home: not many people watchin irc right now, and I've never used it. |
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| 02:24.03 | nogudnik | Hey there, I just started working with the Stitch library and I can't figure how to determine if the list of recipes for a given character and trade has been cached yet. Anyone every worked with this code before? |
| 02:24.17 | kergoth | probably just nymbia |
| 02:25.42 | nogudnik | I figured since it is only used in mods from nymbia, but it was worth a shot :-), I'll post on the wowace forums and stalk IRC for a while |
| 02:26.30 | kergoth | good plan |
| 02:26.54 | kergoth | would be nice if manufac didnt error on some nonexistant pt3 sets |
| 02:28.17 | Thrae | You know what I'd like to see? People's personal libraries turned into just part of their addons, with the API intact and the Stub framework commented out. Then, if someone needs it as a library, they can easily libify it. |
| 02:28.51 | kergoth | stitchlib is used by more than one of his addons, though. |
| 02:29.23 | Thrae | Yeah, but who uses nymbia's addons anyway :D It really depends on how many addons use it... |
| 02:30.27 | Thrae | I'd like to see one external that isn't a lib, hehe. Libs aren't the only way to do code sharing ;) |
| 02:30.58 | Tuller | nuh uh! |
| 02:31.48 | abug | !c us zul'jin tomb |
| 02:31.54 | ThraeBot | abug: tomb is not the character you are looking for! |
| 02:32.05 | abug | o rly |
| 02:32.13 | Wobwork | armoury may be down |
| 02:32.22 | Tuller | false |
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| 02:32.31 | Tuller | at least, not the item part |
| 02:32.43 | ulic | it's working for me via their site, but stuff that uses the xml seems to be broken for me. |
| 02:32.47 | Thrae | !c us maelstrom thrae |
| 02:32.55 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae, Level 59 Night Elf Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 101 mana regen; 91.6 Melee DPS; 14.25% melee crit; 96 +heal; 19.62% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +15 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 114 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypmert ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ogsgw ]] |
| 02:32.59 | Thrae | Armory is OK |
| 02:33.10 | abug | you mean it's not all cached in thraebot? |
| 02:33.11 | Wobwork | ah yeah, it wouldn't return a 'not found' if it wasn't working, yeh? |
| 02:33.35 | Thrae | abug: 10 minute cache for !c |
| 02:33.44 | Thrae | Actually, 5 minute |
| 02:33.56 | abug | kewl |
| 02:38.07 | Mecdemort | is there a full example or an addon that uses a simple tablet display? i'm just having a hell of a time figuring it out |
| 02:39.12 | ckknight | most FuBar plugins use it |
| 02:40.23 | Mecdemort | ok ill give one of those a look |
| 02:41.47 | ckknight | Thrae: libs make code sharing easy. |
| 02:41.48 | sb | hmmmm |
| 02:42.18 | sb | HIS RX1950XT IceQ3 - 230 eur |
| 02:42.20 | sb | sounds okay :o |
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| 02:44.29 | Kuja^ | erm is it just me or is grid broken on battlegounds? |
| 02:45.25 | sb | mah |
| 02:45.27 | sb | 256mb |
| 02:45.29 | sb | *siigggh* |
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| 02:53.12 | Xinhuan | broken? |
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| 03:11.33 | art3mis | i likes mah 1950xt |
| 03:11.37 | art3mis | its groovy n stuff |
| 03:11.46 | art3mis | and not gay tastic like nvidia |
| 03:13.12 | Funkeh` | your mom is gay tastic |
| 03:14.35 | art3mis | well she did mention that you were the girl a few times so...... |
| 03:14.36 | kenlyric | so, you like your drivers to be crashorific? |
| 03:14.52 | art3mis | my drivers havent ever crashed under ati |
| 03:15.05 | art3mis | nor have they screwed up a game and broke |
| 03:15.28 | kenlyric | you're a filthy drity liar. Or you found their one card out of a hundred that wasn't manufactured by retarded howler monkeys. |
| 03:15.46 | kenlyric | ATI is the permanent suck. I'd rather have sand as my graphics card. |
| 03:15.51 | art3mis | appearantly every ati card ive had was a good one then |
| 03:15.59 | art3mis | cuz seriously ive never had it crash and die |
| 03:16.14 | art3mis | then again im not a retard and never install from thier driver cds or install files ;P |
| 03:16.22 | art3mis | and i dont run the cataluyst software ;) |
| 03:16.47 | art3mis | but speaking of which |
| 03:16.55 | art3mis | where can i get retarded howler monkeys |
| 03:16.56 | kenlyric | so, you have to used hacked drivers to use their product? |
| 03:17.08 | kenlyric | that would be the.. um.. definition of crap |
| 03:17.24 | kenlyric | they have them at ATI |
| 03:17.25 | art3mis | nope if you do a find new hardware it doesnt install the cata "suite"/control panel thats 90% of the problem |
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| 03:17.35 | kenlyric | also, blizzard has some |
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| 03:18.22 | kenlyric | collect X items quests are their speciality |
| 03:19.10 | art3mis | heh |
| 03:19.23 | kenlyric | it's possible ATI has gotten better in the last 5 years. I've never had the inclination to give them another chance. |
| 03:19.36 | ckknight | http://content.ytmnd.com/content/5/4/b/54b1ec61ecf34deed4a9fcee85ceb510.gif |
| 03:20.26 | art3mis | that better be a howler monkey link or so help me |
| 03:20.29 | ckknight | kenlyric: you'd be wrong in your assumption, from my experience |
| 03:20.47 | ckknight | that they've goten better, that is |
| 03:20.52 | ckknight | gotten* |
| 03:20.53 | art3mis | POW right in the kisser |
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| 03:27.56 | Kuja^ | Xinhuan: broken in not displaying any players |
| 03:28.06 | Kuja^ | it works fine when i a group |
| 03:32.05 | art3mis | hrm |
| 03:32.26 | art3mis | i wonder if the compizfusion is gonna result in fglrx actually being supported for 3d effects |
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| 03:35.17 | Thrae | http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-admin-monitored-by-us-government-forced-to-dump-linux/ |
| 03:44.30 | art3mis | let that be a lesson to you |
| 03:44.39 | art3mis | hehe i wonder how well the software would work under wine ;P |
| 03:44.52 | art3mis | or if he only owned a mac |
| 03:47.21 | Mecdemort | is the only way to get a tree view into tablet by hardcoding it? |
| 03:49.52 | Wobwork | Happy birthday ckk |
| 03:50.50 | Arrowmaster | art3mis: im perty sure by the entire concept of the software that it wont work under wine |
| 03:50.52 | ckknight | ... |
| 03:51.03 | Arrowmaster | and they would arrest him again for trying to use it under wine |
| 03:52.34 | Arrowmaster | it would be a very interesting case if he owned a non intel mac |
| 03:53.46 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 04:02.30 | art3mis | Arrowmaster: it might ;P |
| 04:02.37 | art3mis | the data would just be umm.... |
| 04:02.39 | art3mis | skewed |
| 04:02.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Any druids around? I want to know if furor is worth picking up in the mid-twenties, or just go straight up feral tree.. |
| 04:03.09 | Keias | If you don't go straight for Mangle, you'll stab yourself in the face |
| 04:04.05 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 04:04.12 | NightHawkTheSane | well, I certainly don't want to stab myself in the face. |
| 04:05.48 | Keias | Yeah, it's never pleasant :( |
| 04:06.05 | Keias | Mangle just makes leveling so much easier, it's definately worth getting at 40. |
| 04:06.16 | Keias | err 50* |
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| 04:08.38 | Sole | hello |
| 04:09.02 | Sole | ckknight: happy bday |
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| 04:34.08 | sylvanaar | you will be in cat form most of the time |
| 04:34.33 | sylvanaar | not too much swtiching |
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| 04:52.10 | art3mis | are you calling him a pussy? |
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| 05:04.39 | Jaxon | Can anyone recommend something that removes code obfuscation? |
| 05:05.11 | Jaxon | This mod I'm looking at has had all the whitespace messed with and junk inserted. |
| 05:05.45 | CIA-14 | 03grayhoof * r47228 10Proximo/localization-deDE.lua: Proximo: Updated deDE |
| 05:06.00 | sag_ich_nicht | well yeah |
| 05:06.07 | sag_ich_nicht | 1. use an editor with syntax highlighting |
| 05:06.13 | sag_ich_nicht | 2. lern2find and replace |
| 05:06.30 | Jaxon | I'd already started on Find/Replace. |
| 05:06.31 | Jaxon | Thanks |
| 05:06.55 | Jaxon | I didn't think to check Syntax highlighting. I wonder if BBEdit does that. |
| 05:07.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: yes |
| 05:08.08 | NightHawkTheSane | the latest version has built in lua syntax highlighting, and there's a language module floating around for previousv ersions. probably easy to find on google |
| 05:08.27 | Jaxon | I've got the demo of 8.7 right now. |
| 05:08.52 | Jaxon | Bah, the coloring is so subtle, I can't see it. Colorblind loses again. |
| 05:09.07 | Jaxon | Oh well, I'll screw with it for a while. |
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| 05:10.48 | sag_ich_nicht | and this, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason why you use emacs, because then you just install a colorblind module and are done with it :O |
| 05:10.57 | Jaxon | Ugh, emacs |
| 05:11.00 | Jaxon | I was always a vi person |
| 05:11.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalenuke Jaxon |
| 05:11.10 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Jaxon with his mind powers |
| 05:11.15 | sag_ich_nicht | die! |
| 05:13.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: you can probably change the colors in the preferences. |
| 05:13.20 | Jaxon | Probably. |
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| 05:22.08 | CIA-14 | DrDamage: |
| 05:22.08 | CIA-14 | - Add General->Display Tooltip->Always, Never, With Alt, With Ctrl, With Shift; requires localisation for zhTW, koKR, zhCN |
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| 05:27.30 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2 (Babble-Fish-2.2) deDE update: |
| 05:27.30 | CIA-14 | - fix: Sar'therisbarsch, Klemmmuffen, Kiefers Engelfisch, Braunells blaugestreifter Flitzerfisch |
| 05:28.05 | FryGuy- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNHM4yJPc9o |
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| 05:39.53 | CIA-14 | MorgDKP: |
| 05:39.53 | CIA-14 | - fixed autolink error with sending too much over channel |
| 05:46.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | hello |
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| 06:13.11 | CrisCr0ss | hello |
| 06:17.19 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r47232 10NBuffBars/ (7 files in 2 dirs): NBuffBars: many bugfixes; add functionality in party/solo; split options and fubar into separate files; tweak default appearance |
| 06:20.01 | Diabolic-Destiny | I got a question |
| 06:20.08 | Diabolic-Destiny | for AgUnitframes |
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| 06:21.28 | Diabolic-Destiny | what happaned to banzai |
| 06:22.52 | Cyrez | You're still using agUF? |
| 06:22.56 | Cyrez | >< |
| 06:23.25 | Cyrez | Get PitBull. It is teh sex. |
| 06:23.30 | Diabolic-Destiny | really? |
| 06:23.38 | CIA-14 | 03totalpackage * r47233 10Capping/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:23.38 | CIA-14 | Capping |
| 06:23.38 | CIA-14 | - de and kr locales update |
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| 06:23.44 | Wobwork | actually the branch version of aguf is apparantly much lighterweight than PB |
| 06:23.56 | Wobwork | but then again, you're using PB for the various functionality |
| 06:24.34 | NightHawkTheSane | i use your mom for the various functionality |
| 06:24.40 | Wobwork | Yeah |
| 06:24.42 | Wobwork | She told me |
| 06:24.47 | Wobwork | She also told me that she felt ripped off |
| 06:24.53 | Wobwork | cause you couldn't keep up |
| 06:25.03 | Wobwork | She wants a refund, btw |
| 06:25.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, probably. |
| 06:25.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Psh, no refunds! |
| 06:25.14 | Diabolic-Destiny | so wait for ag i just use it cuz its easy on the eyes and because of the banzai thing |
| 06:25.23 | Diabolic-Destiny | but now that i cant find it what should i do? |
| 06:25.33 | Wobwork | If in danger or in doubt |
| 06:25.37 | Wobwork | run in circles, scream and shout |
| 06:26.26 | Cyrez | Give PitBull a spin. It's highly configurable. |
| 06:27.37 | Cyrez | It does take a lot of configuring but in the end it's worth it. |
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| 06:28.20 | Diabolic-Destiny | guess ill try it |
| 06:28.33 | Diao | hmm |
| 06:28.38 | Cyrez | Does raid frames as well. |
| 06:28.39 | Diao | any addons that have "easy shift" mode for druids |
| 06:28.59 | Diao | i just started an alt again after not having played one since pre-bc and i remember i used to have an addon that auto-unshifted you if you were in the wrong form |
| 06:30.02 | Wobwork | PS it doesn't do raid frames... well =) |
| 06:30.02 | Diabolic-Destiny | i thought those were disabled since 2.0 |
| 06:30.17 | Diabolic-Destiny | thats fine since ima warrior i dont need to see everyones health |
| 06:30.45 | Cyrez | Huh? PitBull does do raid frames. |
| 06:30.51 | Cyrez | I've configured them, lol. |
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| 06:31.32 | vithos | "well" |
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| 06:32.50 | Diao | guess i can just use a macro for it |
| 06:32.51 | Diao | or something |
| 06:34.58 | vithos | http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros/Druid#Shapeshifting_Macros |
| 06:35.23 | vithos | there's [stance:number] modifier, not sure if [nostance:number] works or if it's limited to [nostance] |
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| 06:41.46 | Yssaril_ | any one know what this error means? "[2007/08/23 01:39:03-606-x1]: Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:375: AddOn index must be in the range of 1 to 273" |
| 06:42.53 | Diao | yeah i got it |
| 06:43.10 | Diao | it's just nostance |
| 06:43.19 | Diao | but you can use /cancelaura with [stance:#] |
| 06:43.21 | Diao | with multiple of them |
| 06:43.34 | vithos | true |
| 06:44.17 | Diao | wee |
| 06:44.21 | Diao | 3 macros and now i have my old functionality back |
| 06:44.31 | Diao | 1 for bear, 1 cat, 1 travel/water/flying |
| 06:44.52 | vithos | oh slick, you can do [stance:0/1] for example |
| 06:45.43 | Diao | oh |
| 06:45.44 | Diao | hm |
| 06:45.46 | Diao | that simplifies things |
| 06:45.49 | Diao | i can just do /cancelform with that |
| 06:46.03 | Diao | instead of /cancelaura [stance:1] Dire Bear Form; [stance:2] Aquatic Form; etc |
| 06:46.42 | vithos | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.46 | vithos | er |
| 06:46.50 | vithos | i r good reader. |
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| 06:47.27 | Diao | nice |
| 06:47.28 | Diao | it works :D |
| 06:57.33 | ckknight | Sole: thanks |
| 06:57.46 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:59.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Note: if you see a guy called Aero1 (i=Aero1@c529cbb57.cable.wanadoo.nl), kick him for private serverness advertising |
| 07:05.00 | Boubouille | kick him for being a retard too |
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| 07:17.51 | Yssaril_ | ckknight: any idea what this means and how i can fix it "[2007/08/23 01:39:03-606-x1]: Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:375: AddOn index must be in the range of 1 to 273" |
| 07:18.07 | ckknight | no |
| 07:18.13 | ckknight | well, I have an idea |
| 07:18.21 | ckknight | and thusly blame Tekkub |
| 07:18.36 | Yssaril_ | hes the one in charge of that part? |
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| 07:23.31 | art3mis | hrm facebook is a wierd site |
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| 07:39.32 | OrionShock | morning everyone :D |
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| 07:41.51 | pb_ee1 | Morning |
| 07:42.08 | sylvanaar | Yssaril_ it means there are 273 addons installed on your machine and you tried to refer to 274+ |
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| 07:42.50 | Yssaril_ | so ave blows up if i have more than 273 mods installed? |
| 07:42.56 | sylvanaar | no |
| 07:42.57 | ramoz | uhm |
| 07:43.04 | ramoz | is it possible to add guildtext to pitbull? |
| 07:43.15 | Yssaril_ | hmmmm |
| 07:43.36 | ramoz | i want a extra line that says what guild/faction/rare-elite in |
| 07:43.44 | sylvanaar | your refering to an addon using an invalid index |
| 07:44.04 | sylvanaar | maybe 0 |
| 07:44.46 | OrionShock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:44.48 | Yssaril_ | hmmmm btw i have no idea how to refer to an addon /sigh |
| 07:44.59 | ulic | ramoz: as long as there is room |
| 07:45.04 | sylvanaar | I got that error once myself when i had screwed up how i handled the blizzard addons in ACP |
| 07:45.07 | Yssaril_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:45.40 | Yssaril_ | OrionShock: check your forum inbox :) |
| 07:45.56 | Yssaril_ | sylvanaar: how did you screw up and how did you fix it |
| 07:45.57 | ramoz | ulic: what do you mean? :) |
| 07:47.03 | sylvanaar | i didnt have the correct list/count, so i fixed that |
| 07:47.11 | ramoz | ulic: oh, nvm :P |
| 07:47.20 | ulic | ramoz: well there is realstate of text right, so the more text you want the bigger your bars/frame :) |
| 07:47.32 | ulic | using DogTags you can display just about anything you want. |
| 07:47.50 | ramoz | hm |
| 07:48.32 | Yssaril_ | hmmmm have no idea waht a list count would be referring to (am fairly new to wow programming) this is my main code and the problem started when i tried to add fubar support http://ace.pastey.net/72608 |
| 07:48.54 | ramoz | ulic: awesome :D |
| 07:49.21 | Yssaril_ | basically line 2-75 changed for that (but i also started using AceDB at the same time and that is everywhere in the addon) |
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| 07:49.37 | dockler | hey i got a question |
| 07:49.58 | Yssaril_ | also i only get the error once on startup and then it does not reoccur and it does not break anything for me |
| 07:50.15 | sylvanaar | Yssaril_ you are probably doing something like AceLibrary(0) maybe |
| 07:50.33 | dockler | a while ago i changed my screen res from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 so i can try out this addon that said works better with a widescreen monitor, and my monitor is, and after i started using the new addon, i noticed i would get disconnected like every hour or so |
| 07:50.56 | sylvanaar | maybe you forgot the quotes? |
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| 07:51.35 | OrionShock | @ Yssaril_ / sylvanaar -- AceLib is calling GetAddonInfo(major) on that line -- some how it's being passed "0.29" as a value |
| 07:52.00 | OrionShock | this ofc is wrong as 0.29 is not a integer (http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetAddOnInfo) |
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| 07:52.16 | Yssaril_ | hmmm i only call acelib once and it is on line 3 of the pasty "YssGuildShop = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceComm-2.0", "AceHook-2.1", "FuBarPlugin-2.0", "AceDB-2.0") " |
| 07:53.43 | sylvanaar | lua doesnt have integers |
| 07:53.54 | OrionShock | as far as i can see "0.29" is 2 places in all of the code avaiable.... so im clueless |
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| 07:54.17 | sylvanaar | but thats the problem |
| 07:54.27 | sylvanaar | a number is getting passed in |
| 07:55.27 | dockler | can somone tell me how to install Pitbull |
| 07:55.45 | Yssaril_ | download it to you addon directory and there you go |
| 07:55.54 | Yssaril_ | configuring is another can of worms though |
| 07:55.56 | [Ammo] | that would be too easy |
| 07:56.05 | [Ammo] | I'd say you have to sacrifice a virgin first |
| 07:56.10 | [Ammo] | then you can install it |
| 07:56.10 | dockler | just put the PitBull folder in my Addons folder? |
| 07:56.13 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 07:56.18 | dockler | ok |
| 07:56.22 | dockler | what about my other question |
| 07:56.47 | dockler | want me to type it again? |
| 07:56.58 | Yssaril_ | [02:50]<dockler>a while ago i changed my screen res from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 so i can try out this addon that said works better with a widescreen monitor, and my monitor is, and after i started using the new addon, i noticed i would get disconnected like every hour or so |
| 07:57.00 | Yssaril_ | that one? |
| 07:57.03 | dockler | yea |
| 07:57.10 | Yssaril_ | which addon was it? |
| 07:57.32 | dockler | uhm... |
| 07:57.43 | dockler | i dont remember, i remember i had this like background thing |
| 07:57.49 | dockler | where i can put my chat on one side |
| 07:57.52 | dockler | my bars in the middle |
| 07:57.57 | dockler | and like combat log on the other side |
| 07:58.02 | Yssaril_ | sylvanaar: any idea how i can stop my addon from passing that value? cause it is only doing it with my addon installed atm |
| 07:58.36 | sylvanaar | put this line in AceLibrary.lua: argCheck(self, major, 2, "string") |
| 07:58.51 | sylvanaar | just under local function TryToLoadStandalone(major) |
| 07:59.19 | Yssaril_ | hmmm cant really help without knowing which addon it is but it sounds like you got an addon compilation and there can be some problems with thouse depending on how the author handles things |
| 08:00.46 | Yssaril_ | like this http://ace.pastey.net/72609? |
| 08:01.24 | Yssaril_ | dockler: usually your best bet with compilations is to contact the author since they ahve lots of things going on that might cause the problem |
| 08:01.31 | Nargiddley | it would go between line 1 and 2 of that pastey Yssaril_ |
| 08:01.39 | Yssaril_ | kk |
| 08:02.20 | dockler | uhm |
| 08:02.22 | dockler | a little help |
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| 08:02.50 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47234 10CastYeller/announces/ (6 files): CastYeller: updated zhTW funny announce |
| 08:02.58 | Yssaril_ | same error with that added right below local function TryToLoadStandalone(major) |
| 08:03.02 | dockler | sec |
| 08:03.39 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47235 10Quixote/ (Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua Quixote.toc embeds.xml): |
| 08:03.39 | CIA-14 | Quixote: |
| 08:03.39 | CIA-14 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 08:03.39 | CIA-14 | - use embeds.xml |
| 08:03.39 | CIA-14 | - fixed pattern |
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| 08:04.04 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47236 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: |
| 08:04.04 | CIA-14 | SinkLib: |
| 08:04.04 | CIA-14 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 08:04.27 | dockler | I installed pitbull and when i loaded my wow I got these 3 box's that replaced my portraits |
| 08:04.30 | dockler | http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8135/wowscrnshot082307040211fe3.jpg |
| 08:04.43 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47237 10StatLogicLib/ (StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua StatLogicLib.toc embeds.xml): |
| 08:04.43 | CIA-14 | StatLogicLib: |
| 08:04.43 | CIA-14 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 08:04.43 | CIA-14 | - use embeds.xml |
| 08:04.52 | [Ammo] | that's what a unitframe addon does |
| 08:05.11 | dockler | yea but what are the 3 boxes |
| 08:05.13 | Yssaril_ | dockler: yep now you have to start configuring it there are lots of options and it will take a bit of time |
| 08:05.15 | dockler | i dont know what the top one is |
| 08:05.15 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47238 10TipHookerLib/ (TipHookerLib.toc embeds.xml): |
| 08:05.15 | CIA-14 | TipHookerLib: |
| 08:05.15 | CIA-14 | - use embeds.xml |
| 08:05.21 | dockler | i know the 2nd one is me |
| 08:05.26 | dockler | and the 3rd one is ..what |
| 08:05.29 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47239 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: updated zhTW localization |
| 08:05.32 | [Ammo] | targetoftarget |
| 08:05.40 | Yssaril_ | one of them is you the other is your target and the other one your target of targer |
| 08:05.41 | dockler | and the top one is |
| 08:05.47 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47240 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: updated zhTW localization |
| 08:05.50 | dockler | woah to many targets |
| 08:06.03 | [Ammo] | first one is you, second one is your target, and third one is the one your target is targetting |
| 08:06.19 | Yssaril_ | target of target can be really usefull in seeing who your target is attacking |
| 08:06.50 | dockler | yea i know, i understand target of target |
| 08:06.54 | dockler | but not target of target of target |
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| 08:07.16 | Yssaril_ | you dont have a totot there |
| 08:07.21 | Yssaril_ | you have yourself |
| 08:07.24 | Yssaril_ | your tagert |
| 08:07.29 | Yssaril_ | and your target of target |
| 08:08.03 | dockler | i see 2 boxes that show me and my mana/hp and then another box that just says my name |
| 08:08.10 | dockler | whats the box with just my name |
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| 08:08.22 | Nargiddley` | target of target |
| 08:08.23 | Yssaril_ | probably your target of target |
| 08:08.42 | Yssaril_ | change your targets and figure it out if you dont have a target only you are left |
| 08:08.56 | Yssaril_ | if you target an npc then you should not have a target of target |
| 08:09.16 | sylvanaar | Yssaril_ add a line adfter that one i mentioned ADDON_DEBUG = ADDON_DEBUG or {} table.insert(ADDON_DEBUG, name) |
| 08:09.33 | dockler | when i target myself i get the other box showing my mana/hp and a box with just my name |
| 08:09.40 | sylvanaar | then after the error /dump ADDON_DEBUG |
| 08:09.41 | dockler | when i target a npc i dont get a box with just his name |
| 08:10.22 | [Ammo] | did you focus yourself? |
| 08:10.24 | [Ammo] | or something |
| 08:10.43 | Nargiddley` | he's just confused over target of target |
| 08:11.00 | dockler | i dunno what i did |
| 08:11.02 | Nargiddley` | the npc isnt targeting anything so theres no target of target |
| 08:11.04 | dockler | i just targeted myself |
| 08:11.11 | dockler | and i see another box with my mana/hp |
| 08:11.17 | dockler | and then i see a box that just says my name |
| 08:11.23 | Nargiddley` | bottom one is you |
| 08:11.26 | dockler | and i can right click that box and configure options, it looks like |
| 08:11.32 | Nargiddley` | middle is your target |
| 08:11.46 | Nargiddley` | top is target of target, all of which are you if you're targeting yourlself |
| 08:12.11 | Nargiddley` | target a player or something, top one will be whatever they are targeting |
| 08:12.20 | Diao | or |
| 08:12.24 | Diao | you can alt-rightclick on the frame |
| 08:12.27 | Diao | and it'll tell you which frame it is |
| 08:12.42 | Yssaril_ | sylvanaar: with this http://ace.pastey.net/72610 i jsut get toons of errors loading up so that made it worse |
| 08:13.49 | sylvanaar | put all the code i gave you |
| 08:14.30 | dockler | what do i type in to configure pitbull |
| 08:16.04 | Yssaril_ | hold on i just had an epifanny 0.29 is my current version in my toc |
| 08:16.22 | dockler | this is confusing |
| 08:16.35 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:18.02 | Kreiger | Hullo all |
| 08:18.04 | Kreiger | trinket menu? |
| 08:18.29 | dockler | where can i get an addon where i can a little backgrond thing for my stuff like in this picture |
| 08:18.31 | OrionShock | Yssaril_: :D, that number 0.29 is referanced 2 places in the entire addon .. and when i change it, it's still errors |
| 08:18.45 | dockler | http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z175/spartanui/Dalaran-Ansu%7cv1.jpg |
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| 08:19.28 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 08:19.29 | evl | WTS updated zhTW localization updates |
| 08:19.42 | cncfanatics | anyone here using FB ? I need to track down an anoying bug |
| 08:20.07 | Yssaril_ | yea i use those two instances to delete the item database when i do major changes to the addon and dont want any problems migrating to a new version |
| 08:20.17 | sylvanaar | Yssaril_ and argCheck(AceLibrary, major, 1, "string") |
| 08:20.47 | sylvanaar | i must be tired, in fact i am - going to bed nn |
| 08:21.50 | cncfanatics | heh, so weird to see people go to bed when I just woke iup |
| 08:21.53 | cncfanatics | nn sylvanaar |
| 08:22.16 | OrionShock | Yssaril_: i changed the numer in the .toc and then local'ed the one in the main .lua file... & it still errors for some reason.. |
| 08:22.48 | Yssaril_ | hmm let me try something |
| 08:23.49 | Nargiddley` | Yssaril_ i dont get the error if i havent been to the bank yet on that char |
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| 08:24.20 | Yssaril_ | hmmmmm |
| 08:24.25 | dockler | anyone know where i can get a little addon that does like a background thing for my chat/combat/action bars/etc like in this screenshot |
| 08:24.28 | dockler | http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z175/spartanui/Dalaran-Ansu%7cv1.jpg |
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| 08:26.00 | OrionShock | Nargiddley`: he's right.. just nuked my SV files.. and then log'ed back in |
| 08:26.02 | OrionShock | no error |
| 08:26.07 | OrionShock | creepy |
| 08:26.29 | Yssaril_ | grrrrrrrrrr |
| 08:26.55 | OrionShock | Nargiddley`: reload ur UI, error comes back |
| 08:27.34 | OrionShock | Yssaril_: - SV file for toon check it out, 0.29 |
| 08:28.05 | dockler | anyone know? |
| 08:28.05 | Nargiddley` | ah maybe its just clean sv that stops it :/ |
| 08:28.07 | Diao | you'd need like xart or something |
| 08:28.20 | Yssaril_ | yea i know i save the current version of the addon in the SV |
| 08:28.49 | dockler | who me? |
| 08:28.51 | Yssaril_ | its there so that i can refuse to accept incomming data from old incompatible versions |
| 08:29.08 | OrionShock | but the think is that ive changed my local version to 1, and it's still saving 0.29 in the SV file. |
| 08:29.34 | OrionShock | *thing |
| 08:29.38 | Yssaril_ | you have to exit the game to get the toc updated |
| 08:29.58 | OrionShock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.07 | Yssaril_ | toc data |
| 08:30.28 | OrionShock | just a moment then :D |
| 08:30.28 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r47241 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: |
| 08:30.28 | CIA-14 | Waterfall-1.0: |
| 08:30.28 | CIA-14 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 08:30.42 | Yssaril_ | the global is the version number that is ther first one to be compatible with the current database |
| 08:30.50 | dockler | whre do i get xart |
| 08:30.54 | OrionShock | ah |
| 08:31.24 | OrionShock | dockler: files.wowace.com, at the bottom :D |
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| 08:32.30 | OrionShock | Yssaril_: now that's creepy as well, .toc says 1, in game says 30, and still getting errors of 0.29 |
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| 08:32.46 | Yssaril_ | yea i know |
| 08:33.03 | OrionShock | sv file say 1 tho :D |
| 08:33.08 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r47242 10NBuffBars/ (5 files in 2 dirs): NBuffBars: bugfix: warlock pet changes; bugfix: rescan failing on hide/show; add out of range fade factor option |
| 08:33.09 | Yssaril_ | hehe |
| 08:33.42 | cncfanatics | does anyone know why savedvars could possibly not be saved ? |
| 08:33.44 | OrionShock | one question, you use profiles for the addon, this is odd as when you change profiles, it effectively switches guilds |
| 08:34.11 | OrionShock | ... too bad AceDB dosn't have a ".guild" option |
| 08:34.33 | Yssaril_ | what do you mean? i only use the per char and per account DB option |
| 08:34.34 | CIA-14 | 03candykiss * r47243 10DrDamage/Locales/Localization-zhCN.lua: |
| 08:34.34 | CIA-14 | DrDamage: |
| 08:34.34 | CIA-14 | - zhCN updated |
| 08:34.34 | dockler | heyyy |
| 08:34.37 | dockler | i installed it |
| 08:34.44 | dockler | and my minimap got moved to the bottom right |
| 08:34.51 | dockler | how do i put it back to its original spot |
| 08:35.18 | OrionShock | Yssaril_: nmd - looking at the wrong thing |
| 08:35.24 | Yssaril_ | cncfanatics: did you forget to declare them in teh toc? |
| 08:35.54 | cncfanatics | no |
| 08:35.56 | cncfanatics | I have a user |
| 08:36.05 | cncfanatics | it seems that his vars are randomly resetting sometims |
| 08:37.43 | NeoTron | woot. Solarian down |
| 08:37.49 | NeoTron | it was.. intense being a AR soaker |
| 08:37.50 | ggilbert | Congrats |
| 08:38.15 | ggilbert | We start on him next week, I think |
| 08:38.16 | dockler | ehh |
| 08:38.16 | Yssaril_ | ok cahnged version to .291 and nuked all my saved vars (deleted teh saved vars files) the ingame nuking does not delete everything |
| 08:38.19 | dockler | im kinda confused |
| 08:38.27 | Yssaril_ | and i am now passing the new number |
| 08:38.35 | dockler | i see little boxs in the xart background, but i can put no spells or nothin on there |
| 08:38.53 | OrionShock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:39.20 | dockler | hey orionshock? |
| 08:39.27 | OrionShock | aye? |
| 08:39.49 | dockler | i installed it, and my minimap got moved to the bottom right |
| 08:39.55 | dockler | how can i move it back to its original position |
| 08:40.08 | OrionShock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.10 | dockler | xart |
| 08:40.15 | Yssaril_ | orion i am currently adding some print comands in the acelib thing to figure out what is foinf on |
| 08:40.32 | OrionShock | never used it |
| 08:40.41 | dockler | xart? |
| 08:40.46 | Nargiddley` | i'm trying to get a proper debugstack out of it Yssaril_ |
| 08:41.05 | OrionShock | dockler: try looking thought the menu and see if u can find anything that has to do with the minMap |
| 08:41.16 | Yssaril_ | k |
| 08:41.53 | dockler | i dont know the command to configure it |
| 08:42.29 | OrionShock | dockler: u got fubar? |
| 08:42.40 | dockler | yea |
| 08:43.00 | OrionShock | got an icon for xart? |
| 08:44.14 | dockler | no i dont see one |
| 08:44.21 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47244 10FlexBar2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 08:44.21 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 08:44.21 | CIA-14 | Action.lua: |
| 08:44.21 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.21 | CIA-14 | Highlighting.lua |
| 08:44.22 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.47 | OrionShock | well right click and see if u can put one there |
| 08:45.01 | Nargiddley` | Yssaril_, coming from AceDB when it happens |
| 08:45.21 | cncfanatics | whats up with AceDB ? |
| 08:45.28 | cncfanatics | I've been having probs too lately and wondering if its from there :p |
| 08:45.30 | Yssaril_ | hmmmm |
| 08:45.37 | dockler | nope, dont see an option |
| 08:46.17 | Yssaril_ | was thinking as much cause it would ahve been either that or fubarplugin since when i added those two it started happening |
| 08:47.42 | dockler | can anyone help me with xart |
| 08:48.01 | Nargiddley` | http://narg.pastey.net/72615 is the debugstack when it happens |
| 08:48.09 | Yssaril_ | dockler: sry never used it |
| 08:49.03 | Yssaril_ | Nargiddley`: hmmmm |
| 08:50.04 | OrionShock | ace db is used in this context to setup the Bank's DB and used to keep a version as well |
| 08:50.24 | OrionShock | the version is "Dynamicly" pulled from ToC data |
| 08:50.56 | OrionShock | Yssaril_: do u remember where the DB is pulled / initlized in the addon? |
| 08:51.05 | OrionShock | or declared? |
| 08:51.11 | cncfanatics | OrionSHock, what is your problem with it ? |
| 08:51.15 | Yssaril_ | right under the option table |
| 08:51.31 | cncfanatics | does it, as I think it will, just update the version when u change it instead of keeping the old one ? |
| 08:51.33 | OrionShock | cncfanatics: with aceDB or yssguildshop? |
| 08:51.54 | Yssaril_ | actually it is my problem cncfanatics :P its is asking acelib for something it shouldnt |
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| 08:53.00 | cncfanatics | Yssaril, set the version number outside of the defaults |
| 08:53.08 | cncfanatics | defaults work with a metatable as far as I know |
| 08:53.09 | OrionShock | yssguildshop.lua (ygs.lua) -- :OnEnable(), you have a referance to a version check |
| 08:53.48 | Nargiddley` | might have found it |
| 08:56.33 | OrionShock | oh btw Yssaril_ your DB is hosted on the toon lvl sv file, not the Account lvl SV file |
| 08:57.01 | Nargiddley` | commenting out YssGuildShop.db.char.YGS_settings[0] = GetAddOnMetadata("YssGuildShop", "Version") fixes it |
| 08:57.04 | Yssaril_ | actually both depending on which part :P |
| 08:57.27 | OrionShock | .. le me reload my ui and check those files again D: |
| 08:57.33 | Nargiddley` | t[0] = o.class:GetLibraryVersion() |
| 08:57.36 | Nargiddley` | from AceDB |
| 08:57.40 | Nargiddley` | [0] = dont use :P |
| 08:58.04 | OrionShock | ... i saw that u where using 0 .. thought that was Odd |
| 08:59.14 | Nargiddley` | the [0] never makes it to SV |
| 08:59.26 | OrionShock | *reloaded UI, the bulk of ur DB is saved toon lvl, not account lvl |
| 08:59.50 | Nargiddley` | i bet acedb uses it to manage which addon the table is for, and you overwrite it with the number out of your toc heh |
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| 09:03.43 | OrionShock | hehe.. i nuked my SV files, and got the error to say 0.30 |
| 09:03.55 | OrionShock | .. but my local version is 1 tho >.> |
| 09:04.11 | Nargiddley` | OrionShock, i found the cause of it :P |
| 09:04.11 | Yssaril_ | did u use the ingame nuke? |
| 09:04.19 | OrionShock | ya saw it nuke |
| 09:04.43 | Yssaril_ | the ingame nuke does not clear all the data jsut the parts where i save itemID's |
| 09:04.50 | OrionShock | also the nuke isn't exactly working |
| 09:05.13 | Yssaril_ | alrgiht let me see if i can rewrite it to not use the 0 currently blows up when i try that |
| 09:05.19 | OrionShock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.30 | Diao | hmm |
| 09:05.37 | Diao | need a way for stealth to not cancel |
| 09:05.59 | Diao | when spamming the hotkey for it :( |
| 09:06.09 | Wobin | macro |
| 09:06.24 | OrionShock | Diao , /cast [nostealth] stealth |
| 09:06.25 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:06.48 | Diao | that doesn't work |
| 09:06.50 | Diao | lol |
| 09:06.53 | Diao | if i spam that macro |
| 09:06.53 | OrionShock | it does |
| 09:06.55 | Diao | it casts it twice still |
| 09:07.05 | OrionShock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.06 | Diao | cause i have practically 0 lag |
| 09:07.10 | Diao | my macro is |
| 09:07.25 | Diao | /cast [stance:3,nostealth] Prowl |
| 09:07.32 | OrionShock | you don't have 3 stances |
| 09:07.35 | Diao | yes i do |
| 09:07.37 | OrionShock | ur a druid |
| 09:07.37 | Diao | i'm a druid |
| 09:07.40 | OrionShock | um.. |
| 09:07.44 | Diao | lol |
| 09:07.56 | Diao | oh |
| 09:07.58 | Diao | figured out a way |
| 09:07.59 | OrionShock | le me change toons |
| 09:08.01 | Diao | secure ability toggle |
| 09:08.10 | Diao | but then i can't shift out instantly if i accidentally shifted to the wrong form :( |
| 09:08.16 | Morghus | I'll check my macro. It's about the same. |
| 09:08.48 | Morghus | Nah, mine's just "[nocombat,nostealth] Prowl" |
| 09:08.57 | Diao | I think it's because my latency to the server constantly hovers around 15ms |
| 09:09.05 | Diao | so if i hit the macro twice in quick succession |
| 09:09.08 | Diao | it prowls/unprowls |
| 09:09.11 | OrionShock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.28 | OrionShock | thats what i use |
| 09:13.11 | Wobin | omg 15ms =( |
| 09:14.03 | Wobin | I currently have 323ms latency =P |
| 09:14.08 | Diao | lol |
| 09:15.12 | OrionShock | 28ms here |
| 09:15.14 | Yssaril_ | Nargiddley`: you are the best that fixed it (would have told you sooner but i accidentally inserted a typo somewhere else so it kinda blew up on me :P) |
| 09:16.01 | Yssaril_ | ckknight: you there? |
| 09:17.28 | dockler | what is BongosFU |
| 09:18.19 | Meiun| | im guessing a fubar interface for bongos :O |
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| 09:21.13 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47245 10YssGuildShop/ (5 files): |
| 09:21.13 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 09:21.13 | CIA-14 | - so apparently it is bad to store something in the table index 0 when using AceDB /shrug who knew (cheer for OrionShock and Nargiddley' for helping to figure this out) |
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| 09:29.06 | Yssaril | alright thanks for all the help guys but i must be off to sleep so that i can fix more bugs and add new things to my addon tomorrow |
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| 10:00.08 | CIA-14 | ArkInventory: |
| 10:00.08 | CIA-14 | - 2.09a |
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| 10:06.50 | dockler | hi uhm i copied over some fonts and now my ingame fonts look different, and i wanna change it back but i dont know how |
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| 10:15.23 | orionshock | well dockler , nuke ur \interface\addons dir , and ur WTF\Account\<Account> dir and start over |
| 10:16.40 | Diao | delete the Fonts folder |
| 10:16.42 | Diao | in your wow directory |
| 10:16.47 | Diao | that's all you need to do to reset your fonts |
| 10:17.06 | Diao | no need to wipe your ui |
| 10:24.39 | Diao | blah |
| 10:24.52 | Diao | blizzard needs to make more new zones for 1-60 |
| 10:24.58 | orionshock | ok.. lua files update when reloading the UI... xml files ghost and don't come back >.> |
| 10:25.46 | Diao | making my 14th character that will be doing the 1-60 zones all over again |
| 10:25.48 | Diao | zzz |
| 10:27.58 | orionshock | anyone know how i move the game tool tip anchor? |
| 10:28.12 | orionshock | .. or how to set the anchor on the tool tip in xml? |
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| 10:34.27 | mort|work | 14th? urgh |
| 10:36.07 | cncfanatics | Diao, how can u make that much N :/ |
| 10:36.10 | cncfanatics | I have two 70s, thats it |
| 10:36.27 | cncfanatics | and I made em with more then 1 year difference, so it was kinda new again for me |
| 10:37.38 | mort|work | i have leveled around 5 chars through the old content, working on the 6th and i really hate it |
| 10:37.51 | cncfanatics | why do it if u hate it ? |
| 10:37.56 | Diao | lol |
| 10:38.05 | Diao | friends keep dragging me to new servers |
| 10:38.12 | Diao | i have had 1 60 of each class |
| 10:38.19 | Diao | but |
| 10:38.22 | Diao | 3 druids and 3 warriors |
| 10:38.35 | Diao | and now 1 70 warr |
| 10:38.36 | winkiller | o_O |
| 10:38.45 | Diao | and making a new druid |
| 10:39.05 | winkiller | i still play on my first server |
| 10:39.13 | winkiller | had 3x "rerolled" to 20-30 |
| 10:39.21 | winkiller | but never with the intention to leave |
| 10:39.24 | mort|work | because i want another character for the endgame content ;) |
| 10:39.45 | Diao | lol |
| 10:40.43 | Diao | this is my last server though |
| 10:40.48 | Diao | i'll quit before rerolling somewhere else |
| 10:41.13 | cncfanatics | meh, i'm quitting when warhammer comes out |
| 10:41.23 | cncfanatics | hopefully they have a good lua engine, so I can port flexbar though |
| 10:41.57 | winkiller | us or eu? |
| 10:41.58 | Diao | i was going to look at warhammer but from the beta |
| 10:42.00 | Diao | it seems pretty bad :( |
| 10:42.20 | Diao | probably gonna stick with wow until sc2 |
| 10:42.24 | Grum | Diao: get better friends of have your 'good friends' pay for char-transfers |
| 10:42.43 | Diao | lol |
| 10:42.58 | Diao | i don't know any wealthy friends :P |
| 10:43.08 | Diao | i've ended up paying for a few friends' transfers to my server |
| 10:43.24 | Wobin | I think it'll be hard to find an mmo out there that has such an available api as Wow |
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| 10:46.53 | Diao | seems cia-14 is delayed by about a minute |
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| 11:00.00 | nevcairiel | man that new item search in the armory is great |
| 11:00.23 | Arrowmaster | i need to finish moving stuff from my mailboxes to bank alts for when my account expires in a week or so |
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| 11:08.55 | cncfanatic1 | lol I just saw myself quit the room |
| 11:08.55 | cncfanatic1 | good |
| 11:11.01 | evl | nevcairiel. and hopelessly slow |
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| 11:11.39 | nevcairiel | evl: but complete! |
| 11:11.52 | evl | so is wowhead? |
| 11:13.21 | vithos | apparently hunters only desire weapons, not armor. |
| 11:14.29 | Diao | wait blizzard gives ranges for drop %s now? |
| 11:16.16 | Sole_ | The sole point was that going from 12% to 0.5% crit hurts more than going from 32% to 22.5%. < lolsmite priest trying to argue that they got hit harder by resil than rogues |
| 11:16.38 | Sole | because you know, its a really crit reliant spec if it has 12% to crit |
| 11:16.45 | Grum | lolsmiting should be prohibited by law |
| 11:17.28 | Diao | well duh everyone knows melee weren't affected nearly as much as casters by resil |
| 11:17.29 | Diao | ;) |
| 11:17.36 | Wobin | lolsmiting is so much fun =) |
| 11:18.16 | Grum | hehe |
| 11:18.19 | Grum | not really ;D |
| 11:18.36 | Sole | yeah because the rogue class wasnt pidgeonholed into 2 specs (mainly 1) if they want to do competetive arena pvp |
| 11:18.42 | Sole | thats not saying something |
| 11:18.52 | Diao | mm |
| 11:18.53 | Diao | sounds like warriors |
| 11:18.54 | Diao | :P |
| 11:19.11 | Grum | seriously, pvp should be a completely different part of the game |
| 11:19.13 | Diao | but then, aren't most classes stuck to a specific talent build |
| 11:19.15 | Diao | for pvp |
| 11:19.17 | vithos | mmm.. suneater, hunter weapon |
| 11:19.17 | Sole | no no, we just all decided to switch from combat fists to maces because we decided we dont like the extra crit anymore..had nothing to do with the fact that it was raped by resil |
| 11:19.34 | Diao | yup |
| 11:19.35 | Grum | something like a toggle between 'pvp' and 'pve' (specwise/gearwise/button-profile-wise) |
| 11:19.49 | Sole | Diao: considering rogues had every tree open to them for pvp pre BC |
| 11:19.55 | Diao | true |
| 11:19.59 | Sole | Diao: as we are primarily a damage class after all |
| 11:20.04 | Diao | warriors never had that luxury :P |
| 11:20.13 | Diao | although fury was somewhat viable pre-bc |
| 11:20.16 | Sole | yeah |
| 11:20.17 | Diao | with aq level gear |
| 11:20.20 | Diao | now it's just trash |
| 11:20.46 | Grum | i wonder what is bigger - pvp or pve :) |
| 11:20.49 | Sole | pve |
| 11:20.49 | Grum | i guess pvp :/ |
| 11:20.57 | Sole | well |
| 11:21.00 | Diao | depends |
| 11:21.02 | Sole | pvp is on the rise |
| 11:21.03 | Grum | pvp anyone can join, pve you cant |
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| 11:21.18 | Sole | I mean high end pvp/pve |
| 11:21.23 | Sole | not scrubs |
| 11:21.23 | Diao | well |
| 11:21.26 | Diao | yea |
| 11:21.41 | Grum | i find it very funny to see people dressed in full pvp claiming to be 'really good for pve too' (and not picking up any new items they might get O.o) |
| 11:22.11 | Diao | i use my pvp gear in pve >.> |
| 11:22.17 | Diao | cause i haven't gotten any upgrades yet |
| 11:22.21 | Grum | i agree there are some items better from the pvp rewards .. but only a couple and for some classes |
| 11:22.24 | Diao | but my guild is still only clearing kara |
| 11:22.34 | Diao | can't get enough people to start 25s :( |
| 11:22.56 | Sole | these priests are retarded |
| 11:23.01 | Grum | fun thing is that most guilds seem to be skipping mag/gruul completely |
| 11:23.07 | Sole | claim they got hit harder by rogues with resil |
| 11:23.08 | Grum | because 'its not so easy' |
| 11:23.13 | Sole | lolsmite - doesnt count at all |
| 11:23.16 | Diao | ? |
| 11:23.20 | Diao | compared to? |
| 11:23.30 | Grum | VR/Lurker |
| 11:23.33 | vithos | Grum: uh, what do they skip to? canceled accounts? |
| 11:23.36 | Sole | shadow - primarily DOT based damage |
| 11:23.40 | Diao | aren't priests the class that benefit most from resil |
| 11:23.47 | Sole | yeah they are |
| 11:24.02 | Grum | at this moment they are, with the upcoming changed they get nrefed as well |
| 11:24.09 | Sole | shadow priests use DOTs for the bread and butter, and use MB->SW:D cycle for burst when needed |
| 11:24.19 | Grum | yup |
| 11:24.24 | Sole | they get nerfed like everyone else does |
| 11:24.53 | Sole | and a max of 12.5% reduction on DOT damage is bad but its not as bad as removing that much crit from a rogue |
| 11:24.55 | Grum | what will the resil change do? make dmg on dot/crit/channeled lower? |
| 11:24.58 | Diao | i don't understand the argument behind not allowing gear swaps though |
| 11:25.02 | Diao | it's a tactic |
| 11:25.09 | Grum | nah it's not |
| 11:25.17 | Sole | Grum: it will reduce DOT damage by the same % it reduces chance to crit |
| 11:25.19 | Grum | they you can take a full shadowresist gear - kill the lock |
| 11:25.39 | Diao | leaves you vulnerable to the other class though |
| 11:25.41 | Grum | mmm so instead of lowering the amount it crits for on melee they lower the chance to crit? |
| 11:25.55 | Diao | and in full resist gear we don't hit very hard :p |
| 11:26.25 | Grum | Diao: that is the point. if you can just change - who cares |
| 11:26.33 | Diao | well |
| 11:26.38 | Diao | you do need to get out of combat |
| 11:26.39 | Diao | to swap it |
| 11:26.47 | Grum | that is fine - they changing that now? |
| 11:26.49 | Diao | yes |
| 11:26.51 | Diao | they're making it so in arena |
| 11:26.54 | Diao | you can no longer swap gear at all |
| 11:26.55 | Sole | so I got 3.5 essays to write by tommorow, and its 11:28pm |
| 11:26.58 | Diao | once the game starts |
| 11:26.58 | Grum | makes some sense |
| 11:27.07 | Sole | I think I might just bite the bullet and fail this one...not like I need it |
| 11:27.25 | Grum | else you see 2 mages - pom-pyro is likely - put on 350 fire-resist and whack em |
| 11:27.34 | Diao | true |
| 11:27.36 | Diao | but what if they were both ice |
| 11:27.39 | Diao | and you predicted wrong :P |
| 11:27.47 | Grum | you still have the same issue now |
| 11:27.52 | Grum | 'guess' :) |
| 11:27.55 | Diao | exactly |
| 11:27.59 | Diao | that's why it's fine as is imo |
| 11:28.06 | Diao | because you have a chance to guess wrong |
| 11:28.09 | Grum | what if you start - can you get ooc by running away? |
| 11:28.10 | Diao | and it's not like there's no counter to it |
| 11:28.14 | Diao | um |
| 11:28.17 | Diao | 5 sec to get ooc |
| 11:28.18 | Grum | or vanishing? |
| 11:28.20 | Diao | from last pvp action |
| 11:28.33 | vithos | or you have an armory spidered spec database addon |
| 11:28.38 | Grum | so you can change midfight into completely diff gear :/ |
| 11:28.54 | Grum | vithos: then you still need to know against who you play :) |
| 11:29.07 | vithos | you don't have to get into combat to mouseover them |
| 11:29.10 | nevcairiel | they will disable armor switching in arenas |
| 11:29.12 | nevcairiel | at some point |
| 11:29.16 | nevcairiel | just that you know :) |
| 11:29.18 | vithos | that's what we're talking about |
| 11:29.21 | Diao | yep |
| 11:29.38 | Diao | thing is, if you're going to gimp yourself in offensive stats to go for pure resist |
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| 11:29.38 | Grum | it seems like the person with the most gear will win |
| 11:29.53 | Diao | so can your opponent |
| 11:29.54 | Grum | and you can get ~250/250 fire+frost for mages with ease |
| 11:30.02 | vithos | i agree, it's a tactic. but it wasn't intended to be part of the 'game' that is arena |
| 11:30.06 | Diao | if i were a caster |
| 11:30.10 | Diao | i'd just keep a set of +hit/penetration |
| 11:30.24 | Diao | it's really easy to tell when someone is wearing resist gear just by the look of it |
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| 11:30.31 | Diao | so you see they have resist, swap out to your penetration and gg them :P |
| 11:31.35 | Grum | and now you will wear your 'optimally balanced gear' (or take a chance) which is much more fair imho |
| 11:31.44 | Diao | well |
| 11:31.45 | vithos | of course. but is that as interesting a game as if that wasn't possible? |
| 11:31.58 | Diao | it makes for more interesting scenarios imo |
| 11:32.03 | Diao | if everyone just wears their pvp sets |
| 11:32.09 | Diao | which is what will end up happening |
| 11:32.16 | Diao | then all the fights end up the same |
| 11:32.25 | vithos | imaging two teams standing out of range of each other, just swapping gear in response to swapped gear |
| 11:32.30 | Diao | lol |
| 11:32.44 | vithos | and whoever gets bored first loses |
| 11:32.52 | Grum | yup |
| 11:33.01 | Grum | 'so much fun lolx' .. not :) |
| 11:33.02 | vithos | that's of course not a likely scenario, but that's the basis of the problem as i see it |
| 11:33.16 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:33.19 | Diao | another thing i don't like about it is |
| 11:33.26 | Diao | i tend to swap trinkets very often |
| 11:33.27 | Diao | in pvp |
| 11:33.30 | Grum | its pvp .. pvp sucks ;D |
| 11:33.32 | Diao | as soon as one cooldown is up |
| 11:33.34 | Diao | i get ooc |
| 11:33.36 | Diao | and swap to another |
| 11:33.40 | Diao | and use it up |
| 11:33.47 | Diao | now i can't :( |
| 11:33.48 | Grum | that is the same |
| 11:33.52 | Diao | or in the future rather |
| 11:33.57 | Grum | 'more gear is more advantage' and that sucks |
| 11:33.59 | Diao | well |
| 11:34.04 | Diao | it's not exactly easy for a warrior to get ooc ;) |
| 11:34.07 | Grum | it should be about skill - not about the person with 100 trinkets in his backpack |
| 11:34.21 | Diao | hey it takes skill to get ooc and swap too :P |
| 11:34.22 | vithos | meh, not really the same |
| 11:34.34 | Grum | it is - gear is gear |
| 11:34.46 | vithos | people actually do that in PvE though, i believe |
| 11:35.05 | Diao | pve is a bit harder |
| 11:35.05 | vithos | not that i think it's good that it's possible |
| 11:35.07 | Diao | unless the fights are short |
| 11:35.15 | Diao | cause most trinkets have a 1.5-2m cd |
| 11:35.22 | Diao | and you can't really get ooc to swap |
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| 11:36.11 | vithos | some classes have abilities that get them out of combat |
| 11:36.16 | Diao | only 2 |
| 11:36.19 | Diao | rogue/hunter :P |
| 11:36.20 | Grum | it's not really doable in pve since the changes with areas getting IC instead of participaters |
| 11:36.27 | vithos | mage |
| 11:36.27 | Grum | mage as well |
| 11:36.33 | Diao | invis takes you ooc? |
| 11:36.37 | Grum | yes |
| 11:36.41 | Diao | thought it was just a threat wipe |
| 11:36.49 | Grum | no it makes you invis :) |
| 11:36.53 | Diao | ah |
| 11:36.55 | Diao | so you can invis/drink |
| 11:36.58 | Diao | if necessary |
| 11:37.11 | Diao | you'd have to macro the trinket swap though |
| 11:37.13 | Grum | i think so but 'areas' get incombat when you are at bosses |
| 11:37.18 | Diao | well |
| 11:37.20 | Diao | it only pulses |
| 11:37.20 | Grum | so you have like a split second to do it |
| 11:37.22 | Diao | every couple sec |
| 11:37.25 | Diao | or something |
| 11:37.31 | Diao | so if you macro it it's possible |
| 11:37.54 | vithos | well, i was saying it's not really the same as other gear swapping, since you're not really doing it to counter your opposing arena team so much as it is just to cleverly get more out of your trinket cooldowns |
| 11:38.07 | Diao | yea |
| 11:38.08 | Diao | well |
| 11:38.13 | vithos | but i don't really like it regardless |
| 11:38.29 | Diao | i think |
| 11:38.33 | vithos | in PvP or PvE |
| 11:38.36 | Diao | it just makes it easier on people who don't think as much ;) |
| 11:38.50 | Diao | cause if you're keeping track of all your cds and gear changes |
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| 11:39.01 | Diao | it can get pretty hectic |
| 11:39.23 | vithos | or your have pretty timers on your screen keeping track for you |
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| 11:39.40 | Diao | wel |
| 11:39.42 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:39.50 | Diao | but i have like 5 hotkeys for different trinkets to equip/use |
| 11:40.04 | Diao | plus another 3 or 4 for gear swaps |
| 11:40.32 | vithos | i think it just detracts from what the competition is supposed to be |
| 11:40.33 | phyber | I have a ClosetGnome to take care of that. |
| 11:40.33 | Grum | ah well, gearchanges always have funny moments |
| 11:40.48 | Grum | our MT stating .. OMG i forgot to put on my frostgear at hydros :P |
| 11:40.52 | Diao | lol |
| 11:41.30 | Grum | bit later ... 'OMG i nearly forgot to take of my frostgear' - when she was taking that 'Vashj-guard' orso in the lurker trash |
| 11:41.35 | Grum | those that cleave for 4-6k orso :P |
| 11:41.52 | Grum | *tanking |
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| 11:42.22 | Diao | oh well |
| 11:42.37 | Diao | i guess arena will just be run around and spam MS/hamstring |
| 11:42.50 | Diao | instead of trying to play mind games |
| 11:42.51 | Diao | :P |
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| 11:45.25 | Grum | exactly the reason why it's boring |
| 11:45.37 | Grum | must be fun if you have a group of 2-3 warriors doing AV orso |
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| 11:45.47 | Grum | run upto something and nearly instagibbing it |
| 11:46.03 | Diao | until you come up against that holy priest |
| 11:46.14 | Diao | which takes 4 people 10 minutes to kill |
| 11:46.52 | Grum | lol |
| 11:47.01 | Grum | holy priests get instagibbed faster than you can type /fart |
| 11:47.19 | Diao | maybe new ones |
| 11:47.29 | Diao | ever tried to gank someone with 13k hp and 500+ resil? |
| 11:47.43 | Diao | i was on my friend's pally |
| 11:47.44 | Grum | 0 armor, interrupt sensitive, 1 fear every 30 seconds, 1.6k shield |
| 11:47.44 | evl | i tried dueling warlock with 444 resilience |
| 11:47.58 | Diao | she has 10k hp, 400 resil, 14k armor |
| 11:48.07 | Diao | teamed up with holy priest that had 13k hp 520 resil |
| 11:48.09 | Diao | at the mines in ab |
| 11:48.11 | Diao | 8 alliance against us |
| 11:48.12 | Diao | 10 minutes |
| 11:48.17 | Diao | they couldn't kill either of us |
| 11:48.34 | Sole | tell the priest hes stupid |
| 11:48.42 | Sole | resil is capped at 490 |
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| 11:48.47 | Sole | anything more is waste |
| 11:48.47 | Grum | so basicly pvp is fun if you have 500 resil and have 12k+ health? |
| 11:49.00 | Diao | mm |
| 11:49.02 | Diao | never knew there was a cap |
| 11:49.07 | Diao | hidden cap? |
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| 11:49.10 | Sole | yes |
| 11:49.12 | Grum | now the question is - how do you get 500 resil? |
| 11:49.18 | Grum | purely pvp right? O.o |
| 11:49.19 | Sole | easy |
| 11:49.21 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:49.24 | Sole | season 2 gear + veterans |
| 11:49.25 | Diao | wear 2 pieces of s1 arena |
| 11:49.30 | Diao | 3 pieces of s2 arena |
| 11:49.33 | Diao | full veterans gear |
| 11:49.34 | Sole | or that |
| 11:49.37 | Diao | resil gems/enchants |
| 11:49.54 | Grum | so, how much fun is it starting with - resil and ~9k hp .. not so much =D |
| 11:49.59 | Grum | 0 resil |
| 11:50.10 | Sole | err |
| 11:50.14 | Diao | afk av farm |
| 11:50.18 | Diao | until you get all the veteran's stuff |
| 11:50.18 | Diao | :P |
| 11:50.20 | Sole | pretty much |
| 11:50.22 | Diao | that'll get you a good 100 resil |
| 11:50.28 | Sole | more than that |
| 11:50.32 | Diao | well |
| 11:50.37 | Sole | wearing purely veterans Im at around 140 now |
| 11:50.39 | Diao | just the 3 veteran's pieces |
| 11:50.48 | Diao | then farm ring/neck |
| 11:50.49 | Diao | for more |
| 11:50.55 | Sole | still missing the ring and the trinket though |
| 11:51.09 | Sole | gnie |
| 11:51.10 | Sole | gnite |
| 11:51.15 | Diao | night o: |
| 11:51.48 | Grum | 'afk av farm' .. right |
| 11:51.59 | Diao | i want to see this 490 resil cap info though |
| 11:52.06 | Diao | wonder how they tested it |
| 11:52.22 | steino | http://www.gameriot.com/blogs/Kamis-rants/Hidden-resilience-cap |
| 11:52.26 | steino | :------D |
| 11:52.37 | vithos | probably with damage abilities that do the same damage every time |
| 11:52.44 | vithos | and can crit |
| 11:52.48 | Diao | so basically |
| 11:52.51 | Diao | cold blood evisc |
| 11:52.53 | Diao | or something |
| 11:53.02 | vithos | [Screeching Bow] |
| 11:53.24 | Diao | oh it's 494 |
| 11:53.26 | Diao | er |
| 11:53.27 | Diao | 492.5 o_O |
| 11:53.31 | Diao | interesting number |
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| 11:54.46 | Diao | so beyond 492.5 resil you want to stack hp/+healing i suppose |
| 11:57.45 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, pong |
| 11:57.47 | cncfanatics | what is it ? |
| 11:58.49 | Grum | humz seems you can get ~194 resilience with pve/craftables =D |
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| 11:59.22 | cncfanatics | ~poke Cyrez |
| 11:59.22 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cyrez, pokes Cyrez repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 12:02.00 | Cyrez | Oh, hey. |
| 12:02.24 | Cyrez | Found one of the bugs I was experiencing is still present. >< |
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| 12:03.05 | baer_ | moin. |
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| 12:04.52 | Cyrez | cncfanatics: First, just to be sure, I deleted the settings... Then I created two buttons. Then I tried to group the first one and it gave me some kind of validity error but the second one worked fine. Then I created a third button and could group that, too, but still got the same error with the first button. |
| 12:07.44 | Diao | some people have nothing good to do |
| 12:07.56 | Diao | 70 mage comes to gank my 21 druid alt in passing |
| 12:08.00 | Diao | takes him 3 hits to kill me o_o |
| 12:08.12 | winkiller | it's not exactlx an effort then |
| 12:08.18 | winkiller | unless he dismounted |
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| 12:09.09 | Diao | he did |
| 12:10.32 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, is the first button already grouped ? |
| 12:10.44 | cncfanatics | the validity check just make sure the button exists and its not grouped |
| 12:11.06 | cncfanatics | lemme try myself |
| 12:12.14 | cncfanatics | this worked fine for me |
| 12:12.17 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.23 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.26 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.32 | cncfanatics | unlocked them all, and I could drag em all together |
| 12:12.42 | cncfanatics | sure u got the latest version Cyrez ? |
| 12:12.46 | cncfanatics | and cld u tell me exactly what commands u do |
| 12:12.57 | Cyrez | Very, very sure. |
| 12:13.15 | Cyrez | I tried again another slightly different way and I didn't have the same problem. >< |
| 12:13.49 | Cyrez | There's too many ways to do the same thing, lol. |
| 12:15.30 | cncfanatics | u used the GUI ? |
| 12:15.45 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47252 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 12:15.45 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 12:15.45 | CIA-14 | - Loot update |
| 12:15.45 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47251 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 12:15.45 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 12:15.45 | CIA-14 | - Loot update |
| 12:15.55 | Cyrez | Just to create the buttons. |
| 12:16.23 | cncfanatics | works fine for me |
| 12:16.30 | cncfanatics | lemme create the buttons with GUI and group em with commands |
| 12:17.01 | cncfanatics | just created five buttons in GUI |
| 12:17.11 | cncfanatics | then grouped them with slashcommands |
| 12:17.12 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47253 10AtlasLoot/ (Instances/instances.en.lua TableRegister/loottables.en.lua): |
| 12:17.12 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:17.12 | CIA-14 | - New entries |
| 12:17.16 | cncfanatics | then unlocked the group, worked fine |
| 12:17.21 | cncfanatics | tell me exactly how to bug it ? |
| 12:17.38 | cncfanatics | btw, Cyrez, did u have some problems with FB not saving ur settings lately ? bibliothequa seems to have probs with that, someho |
| 12:17.42 | cncfanatics | somehow* |
| 12:18.16 | Cyrez | Er, I haven't gotten that far yet. |
| 12:18.25 | CIA-14 | 03thexod * r47254 10ItemValue/ (4 files): |
| 12:18.25 | CIA-14 | ItemValue: |
| 12:18.25 | CIA-14 | - Modularized some Set options |
| 12:18.25 | CIA-14 | - "Set->Enable" renamed to "Set->DisplayInTooltip" |
| 12:18.25 | CIA-14 | - Per-set rounding option |
| 12:18.25 | CIA-14 | - Small memory optimizations in Set handling and Formula |
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| 12:19.20 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 12:19.29 | cncfanatics | either way, can u tell me a way to replicate ur problem ? |
| 12:20.42 | Cyrez | Gah, it's gone! |
| 12:20.46 | Cyrez | What gives? >< |
| 12:21.06 | Cyrez | I did the same thing I did before but it didn't happen this time. |
| 12:21.17 | Cyrez | God hates me, lol. |
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| 12:22.34 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 12:22.45 | cncfanatics | also, I'm making slashcommands error more clear |
| 12:22.56 | cncfanatics | "verification failed" aint particularly enlighting for most people |
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| 12:29.04 | cncfanatics | sigh, I use : instead of ; and the end of my lines for some reasdon now |
| 12:29.56 | CIA-14 | 03borlox * r47255 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 12:29.56 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2: |
| 12:29.56 | CIA-14 | Babble-Spell-2.2: |
| 12:29.56 | CIA-14 | - Updated deDE localization |
| 12:33.22 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47256 10FlexBar2/ (5 files in 4 dirs): FlexBar2: Slashcommands errors are now MUCH more clearer (no more "verification failed" messages without any further info |
| 12:34.06 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, download that commit |
| 12:34.13 | cncfanatics | should help a lot if u use slashcommands |
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| 12:34.47 | Cyrez | I use SVN. ;) |
| 12:34.51 | CIA-14 | 03ennuilg * r47257 10scorchio/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:34.51 | CIA-14 | scorchio: |
| 12:34.51 | CIA-14 | - Added further configuration options for customisation of the bars. |
| 12:34.51 | CIA-14 | - Removed Alpha from baroptions. |
| 12:34.51 | CIA-14 | - Added option to change persistence of bars. |
| 12:34.52 | CIA-14 | - Changed storage of baroptions. This will reset you personal settings on this upgrade. Sorry. |
| 12:34.54 | CIA-14 | - Removed dependency on PaintChips-2.0 (I hope) |
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| 12:41.54 | Cyrez | cncfanatics: I did notice something strange, though... The glows are appearing on top of everything else even if another button is overlapping the button it's coming from. |
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| 12:42.57 | Cyrez | Like if I mouseover it or fire off my Druid's Rejuvenation. |
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| 12:54.27 | Grum | Cyrez: that's logical - the glows are in the overlay layer |
| 12:54.51 | Cyrez | Ooo. |
| 12:54.52 | Cyrez | >< |
| 12:54.52 | Grum | or it seems logicai =D |
| 12:54.58 | Grum | *logical |
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| 13:07.18 | cncfanatics | Grum is right |
| 13:07.44 | Grum | *\o/* |
| 13:07.51 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, any problems with the config resetting if you relog ? |
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| 13:31.12 | Fisker- | OH MY GOD |
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| 13:32.23 | cncfanatics | whats up Fisker- ? :p |
| 13:33.02 | Fisker- | armory is actually somewhat bearable to browse the site now |
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| 13:50.04 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 13:50.12 | cncfanatics | the OnEnable of modules is called after the one from the core |
| 13:50.16 | cncfanatics | any way to make that reverse ? |
| 13:50.21 | cncfanatics | I want the modules to do :OnEnable first |
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| 13:52.49 | Fisker- | a wild paladin appears |
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| 13:53.39 | Punkie` | master ball > bubble |
| 13:53.45 | Ominous_ | cncfanatics: call the method from OnEnable of core with an added variable so its only called from there and not from when ace calls it |
| 13:53.45 | cncfanatics | the wild paladin bubbles out of the master ball |
| 13:54.03 | cncfanatics | Ominous_, might as well call it otherwise then |
| 13:54.15 | Ominous_ | true |
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| 13:55.12 | Punkie` | cncfanatics needs to l2p pokemon |
| 13:55.15 | Punkie` | masterball can never fail! |
| 13:56.49 | cncfanatics | !api GetContainerItemCooldown |
| 13:56.51 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: startTime, duration, isEnabled = GetContainerItemCooldown(bagID, slot) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetContainerItemCooldown |
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| 13:59.43 | Pkekyo | anyone know any good acrylic computer chassi models? |
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| 14:05.27 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how to enable error reporting ? |
| 14:05.30 | cncfanatics | its disabled by default |
| 14:05.34 | cncfanatics | think there's some cvar to change ? |
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| 14:07.20 | nevcairiel | its in the interface options |
| 14:07.39 | Amadeo | Proximo, that's interesting, never seen that addon |
| 14:12.19 | Pkekyo | anyone know any good low-noise chassi fans? |
| 14:13.03 | cncfanatics | ventilators |
| 14:13.12 | Pkekyo | wha? |
| 14:13.17 | cncfanatics | use a ventilator ! |
| 14:13.26 | Pkekyo | ventilator? |
| 14:13.45 | cncfanatics | wait, whats the correct english word for that |
| 14:13.45 | cncfanatics | sec |
| 14:14.07 | Chompers | large 120mm fans are best |
| 14:14.18 | Daemona | Noctua |
| 14:14.25 | Daemona | definitly the best fans out there |
| 14:14.25 | Pkekyo | Chompers: no, not really |
| 14:14.37 | cncfanatics | aerator |
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| 14:14.50 | cncfanatics | use a god damn aerator :p (if thats the correct word for those things :p) |
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| 14:15.36 | Pkekyo | only 120mm fans from noctua...meh |
| 14:15.50 | Daemona | they got 80mm too |
| 14:16.04 | Pkekyo | not in this country :< |
| 14:16.18 | Daemona | look for the nf-r8 |
| 14:16.26 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: no, doesn't seem to be the right word...can you get me a picture of one so I understand wtf you're on about? ;> |
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| 14:16.52 | Daemona | http://fraseologie.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/ventilator.jpg |
| 14:16.53 | Daemona | ;) |
| 14:16.58 | Pkekyo | Daemona: no 90mm ones though? |
| 14:17.04 | Daemona | dont think so |
| 14:17.30 | Pkekyo | damnit |
| 14:17.51 | Daemona | nope 120mm high and low trhoughput and 80mm high |
| 14:18.21 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 14:18.25 | Daemona | where are you from? |
| 14:19.14 | Pkekyo | norway |
| 14:19.27 | Pkekyo | http://www.overclockmania.net/oc2/smallimg/p1510.jpg <--- think I'll be able to replace that 120mm with one of the noctua fans easily? |
| 14:19.30 | cncfanatics | http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50335466/Low_Noise_Axial_Flow_Ventilator.jpg |
| 14:19.35 | cncfanatics | that should be MORE then clear enough :p |
| 14:19.53 | Pkekyo | lmfao cncfanatics |
| 14:20.11 | Daemona | Pkekyo caseking.de ships to norway for 14eu up to 5kg |
| 14:20.20 | Pkekyo | I'm looking to lower the sound level, not something as noisy as a fucking jet engine |
| 14:20.57 | Pkekyo | Daemona: thanks, but it's not really all that optimal, as I can't speak german for shit |
| 14:20.58 | Daemona | hook up some friends to order stuff there too and the 14eu wont even hurt ;) |
| 14:21.11 | Daemona | i bet my laptop the ppl over there speak english ;) |
| 14:21.42 | Pkekyo | 14eu = 14 euro? |
| 14:21.45 | RaydenUni | i'm feeling rather evil |
| 14:21.58 | RaydenUni | i think i might fly to the barrens and ask who this chuck norris guy is |
| 14:22.07 | Pkekyo | lmfao |
| 14:22.24 | Daemona | RaydenUni ask fo Mankriks wife ;) |
| 14:22.33 | Daemona | yes Pkekyo |
| 14:22.34 | RaydenUni | oh i do that all the time already |
| 14:22.45 | RaydenUni | and Daemona it's "mankirk's wife" |
| 14:23.01 | RaydenUni | ask for mankrik and no one in the barrens will know what you are talking about |
| 14:23.18 | Pkekyo | Daemona: that's more than the fan's cost in shipping alone... |
| 14:23.19 | Pkekyo | and it's so expensive that I'll get charged for fuckloads by norwegian customs... |
| 14:23.22 | Daemona | RaydenUni wrong. http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=4921 |
| 14:24.06 | RaydenUni | Daemona i know the guy's name is Mankrik, but in the barrens he is known as Mankirk |
| 14:24.08 | Daemona | Pkekyo thats why i suggested get some friends to order stuff too |
| 14:24.27 | Daemona | and well ... be lucky with custom :X |
| 14:24.39 | Pkekyo | well, we'll still get charged like 50-100¤ by norwegian customs, so it's no use, really |
| 14:24.57 | Daemona | i once ordered "engineering test samples" from the us, didnt pay any customs :D |
| 14:25.13 | Pkekyo | engineering test samples? |
| 14:25.27 | Daemona | i just asked the shop to write on it "Engineering test samples -- Handle with care" |
| 14:25.40 | Daemona | they didnt even ask whats in it, just excused for delaying the transport |
| 14:26.46 | Pkekyo | the only way to screw over norwegian customs, is to have the store label is at advertisement material or whatev |
| 14:27.52 | Pkekyo | Daemona: you're german, no? |
| 14:28.15 | Daemona | aye |
| 14:28.55 | Pkekyo | you know that caseking store? |
| 14:28.55 | Pkekyo | the decibel values listed...are they 'real', or are they listed as that low just to sell? |
| 14:28.55 | Daemona | and no i dont plan a holiday in norway sometime soon ;) |
| 14:29.22 | Daemona | erhm they are real, you get sued in germany for false advertisements quite easily. |
| 14:29.46 | Pkekyo | found this 1600rpm fan listed at 9decibel... doesn't seem even remotely logical |
| 14:30.26 | Pkekyo | ah, it comes with a fan speed controller...it've got to be 9db at the lowest rpm, and 1600 is the max |
| 14:31.36 | Pkekyo | Daemona: do you know how chieftec cabinets are made? if so: would you mind seeing if they've got an extra -front- door for one on there? |
| 14:31.36 | Pkekyo | I hardly understand anything of what's written |
| 14:32.14 | Pkekyo | also: what is this? http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=29_91_242&products_id=5590&osCsid=30eec9ff3ba2787c6659253820e13444 |
| 14:32.38 | Chompers | noise insulation |
| 14:32.58 | Pkekyo | is it worth it investing in such? |
| 14:33.15 | Chompers | no |
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| 14:33.50 | Pkekyo | what is "Gedämmte" ? |
| 14:38.38 | cncfanatics | gedempte me thinks, which means with lowered noise in english |
| 14:39.00 | cncfanatics | dampened traducted litteraly |
| 14:40.40 | Pkekyo | traducted? |
| 14:41.16 | Pkekyo | translated, that is? |
| 14:41.18 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 14:41.30 | durcyn | reduced, perhaps? |
| 14:41.38 | cncfanatics | dampened reduced, all means the same doesnt it ? |
| 14:42.55 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 14:43.17 | Pkekyo | http://www.overclockmania.net/oc2/smallimg/p1510.jpg <--- does that fan look like it could easily be replaced by a low-noise one? |
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| 14:44.18 | Pkekyo | it looks really, REALLY cool, but it's so goddamn loud it's not even funny |
| 14:44.41 | deltron | that's a cool looking drive sled |
| 14:45.10 | Pkekyo | really is |
| 14:45.26 | Pkekyo | it looks shit on illustration photos thoug, as they're always higly lit... |
| 14:45.32 | Pkekyo | sec, gonna get a pic of mine |
| 14:46.00 | cncfanatics | why do u care wether ur fans look good or not ? |
| 14:46.47 | Pkekyo | well, I used to be a casemodding nutter.... |
| 14:46.47 | Pkekyo | now I want to silence this thing down |
| 14:47.38 | Pkekyo | I've come to my senses, so to speak |
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| 14:52.27 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, heh, you sound sort of like me, except I was only spending money on gfx card and such, not on fans, so mine are very, very loud.. And it bothers me a lot now. |
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| 14:52.59 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: I bought pretty anything that was either shiny or had lighs in it |
| 14:53.32 | Pkekyo | you know the Chieftec Big Tower chassis? I've filled it to the brim with casemods |
| 14:53.42 | Pkekyo | I was such a fucking twat ^^ |
| 14:54.11 | Dynom | Hjalte: well fan's aren't that expensive are they ? |
| 14:54.34 | Hjalte | Dynom, nope, they arent, but I just wasnt thinking about it when i did the computer :) |
| 14:54.40 | Dynom | I've got 7 fans and I can hardly hear my tower |
| 14:54.40 | Pkekyo | ideally, how should I config my fans to have the best possible airflow? |
| 14:54.54 | Dynom | depends on your internals |
| 14:55.06 | Pkekyo | Dynom: care to elaborate? |
| 14:55.25 | Dynom | well, for airflow you need space, so make sure you have room for air to flow |
| 14:55.40 | Pkekyo | gonna make you a schematic |
| 14:55.42 | Dynom | doesn't make sense to put a fan infront of 3 hdd's, since there won't be much flow to go on |
| 14:55.48 | Dynom | sure |
| 14:56.11 | Dynom | make sure your cables are to the sides, mounted with wires or whatever |
| 14:56.31 | Dynom | in that way your fans can run at a low rpm, making almost no noise and you still have proper cooling |
| 14:56.31 | Pkekyo | my wires are fucking everywhere |
| 14:56.41 | Dynom | yeh, thats mostly a problem to sort properly ^_^ |
| 14:56.48 | jme | Fisker-: http://cdn.euroclick.com/contents/34677/EarthquakeWarning_728x90.gif |
| 14:57.19 | Dynom | I have two in the front one in the middle, one in the back, one 20" in the top and the cpu + gpu fan's |
| 14:57.40 | Dynom | the air flows from front to back and top |
| 14:58.01 | Dynom | my powersuply is in the bottom of the case, so thats different from most cass |
| 14:58.11 | jme | lianli? |
| 14:58.38 | deltron | my lian-li is like that i think |
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| 14:59.41 | Dynom | got some photo's online, but you can't see much on them tbh: http://dynom.nl/stuff/casefotos/DSC00815.JPG |
| 15:00.27 | nevcairiel | arent powersupplys that what generally outputs the most heat in a pc? why placing that on the bottom? so that all heat can go directly over the mobo ? :P |
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| 15:00.30 | Hjalte | Is there any addon to configure the options of Auctioneer without having to do it in the chat? (I know auctioneer is not an ace addon, but i think some of you might know the answer) |
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| 15:00.54 | Dynom | nevcairiel: it has it's own fan and back heating outlet, trust me, power is NOT generating the most heat |
| 15:01.05 | Kain | i had a Q about DrDamage... when it does the consumables calcualtion I am assuming it waits until you are OOM then adds in an consumable? |
| 15:01.18 | nevcairiel | get a better gpu fan then :) |
| 15:01.22 | Dynom | it's an Antec Nine Hundred case |
| 15:01.22 | nevcairiel | mine isnt that hot |
| 15:01.30 | deltron | GPU or CPU generate most heat |
| 15:01.32 | Dynom | well, hotter then my power suply at least |
| 15:01.34 | deltron | drives generate a lot also |
| 15:01.43 | deltron | depends on power supply also |
| 15:01.44 | Dynom | but my powersuply has sinks |
| 15:01.50 | Kain | in a real world situation I am going to take them as soon as possible so they are ready again as soon as possible |
| 15:02.14 | Kain | is it possible to set it up to calculate using that method? |
| 15:02.48 | nevcairiel | dunno, i have multiple fans on the back, and the powersupply fan has the hottest air |
| 15:03.10 | Pkekyo | Dynom: red = wires, blue = fans, green = motherboard and such, yellow = other components |
| 15:03.10 | Pkekyo | http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1273/chassisxa5.gif |
| 15:03.17 | Kain | i know from curator fights if i lasted for several minutes w/o going OOM casting the entire tiem w/o break... either stacking scorch on curator or scorching adds then fireball spam during evocate |
| 15:04.15 | nevcairiel | lol Pkekyo, nice painting skills there =P |
| 15:04.17 | Dynom | Pkekyo: respect for your paint skills |
| 15:04.50 | jme | Pkekyo: hahah |
| 15:05.31 | Dynom | Pkekyo: I think it would make more sense to put one big fan on the top or two big ones and one below |
| 15:05.36 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, have you found out if you need all your fans turned on? I cut down on some of the noise by stopping a fan that wasnt really needed. |
| 15:05.42 | Dynom | Pkekyo: but all in all this could work |
| 15:05.51 | jme | Kain: using super mana pots, just wait until you're at about a 3000 mana deficit before you chug one |
| 15:06.25 | Kain | yeah that's what I do - I am curious if DrDamage can be setup to make that assumption though |
| 15:06.36 | Kain | it seems like DrDamage just adds it to your total mana ... |
| 15:06.53 | jme | Kain: not sure, i don't use it |
| 15:07.02 | jme | i just pay attention to my player unit frame ;) |
| 15:07.09 | Kain | lol ya |
| 15:07.33 | Kain | i dont use DrDamage during a fight but it has some good math in it and the OOM thing is the only thing i really saw that i'd like to improve in it |
| 15:07.47 | Kain | it seems like it knows enough that it sohuld be able ot make a better reeal world estimate |
| 15:08.01 | jme | Kain: if you use SCT it will warn you when your mana is getting low |
| 15:08.09 | jme | i think it warns you at about 35-40% |
| 15:08.13 | Kain | ya |
| 15:08.15 | Kain | i use SCT :) |
| 15:08.19 | jme | ok |
| 15:08.22 | Kain | im not having problems w/ running out of mana lol |
| 15:08.33 | jme | sorry, that's what i gathered from your question |
| 15:08.46 | Kain | i am just curiosu if the mod could give a more accurate calcuation of how logn someoen had till OOM |
| 15:09.00 | Dynom | Pkekyo: going home, gl with the design ^_^ |
| 15:09.01 | Kain | DrDamage provides an estimate and it seems liek it is way off |
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| 15:09.25 | Kain | if you dont pot or gem the esitmate is accurate but if you check the mark to take consumables into account that when it seems to fall apart |
| 15:09.27 | jme | Kain: might wait until Gagorian is on to ask him |
| 15:09.38 | Kain | k |
| 15:09.47 | Kain | it's a great mod though I love it :-D |
| 15:10.03 | Gagorian | Kain: Consumables count as mp5. |
| 15:10.09 | Gagorian | It assumes you pot everytime cd is up |
| 15:10.41 | Kain | it claims scorch will OOM me in 106.5s |
| 15:10.50 | Kain | with consumales taken into account |
| 15:12.32 | Kain | maybe not counting the gems? |
| 15:13.02 | Gagorian | Pots add 100 mp5 |
| 15:13.09 | Gagorian | checking gem |
| 15:14.06 | Kain | shouldnt a pot be aroudn 20 MP5? (3000+1800)/2/120 ? |
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| 15:14.34 | Gagorian | thats mana per second |
| 15:14.42 | Megalon | 20mp per second = 100 per 5 seconds ;x |
| 15:14.43 | Kain | ooo |
| 15:14.46 | Kain | haha yeah sorry |
| 15:14.52 | Megalon | ;> |
| 15:15.06 | Gagorian | gems are a bit tricky but I've just set them to a bit over 100 |
| 15:15.18 | Gagorian | Even if it's less over time |
| 15:15.54 | Kain | hmm |
| 15:16.08 | Kain | we killed curator after his 3rd evocate lat night... |
| 15:16.16 | sb | hmm |
| 15:16.19 | sb | more dmg! |
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| 15:16.23 | deltron | nice |
| 15:16.24 | Kain | thats... 300 seconds + a bit to burn down the lats 12 % |
| 15:17.40 | jme | i want to down curator in one evocate someday |
| 15:18.01 | TNZe | best curator kill I've had was getting him to 20% during first :P |
| 15:18.10 | jme | wow |
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| 15:18.19 | Kain | if i get a chance today ill head up to Dr. Boom and see how long i can go w/ scorch on pots and gems |
| 15:19.00 | Kain | btw: i love the mod i hope im not sounding discouraging :-D |
| 15:19.14 | Kain | maybe im not figuring something into account right :) |
| 15:19.19 | TNZe | normally we kill him during second evocation |
| 15:19.22 | jme | you were very discouraging, Gagorian is quitting wow |
| 15:19.26 | Kain | lol |
| 15:20.02 | Kain | oh and one other thing i thought id toss out there |
| 15:20.18 | Kain | is Master of Elements taken into account for OOM? |
| 15:20.23 | Kain | +30% mana refund on crit |
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| 15:21.19 | Kain | Spell Cost * (Hit % / 100) * (Crit % / 100) * spell cost? |
| 15:21.24 | Kain | errr... |
| 15:21.31 | Kain | not spell cost twice :) |
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| 15:22.05 | Kain | bleh that formula was all kidns of wrong lol |
| 15:22.11 | Kain | anyhow you see what im asking? |
| 15:22.25 | Gagorian | Yes master of elements should be accounted |
| 15:23.12 | Kain | ah |
| 15:23.42 | Kain | hmm... ok last question... in relation to all this discusion... could you maybe having it show the regen rate? |
| 15:24.13 | Kain | when u turn on pots, consumables and master of elements? |
| 15:24.19 | TNZe | Gagorian, have you seen ratingsbuster before? :P |
| 15:24.22 | Gagorian | you can modify the addon to self:Print( calculation.manaRegen ) |
| 15:24.27 | Gagorian | Just before the calculations |
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| 15:24.40 | Gagorian | TNZe: Well, I haven't used it |
| 15:24.47 | Gagorian | But yeah I know what it does |
| 15:24.49 | jme | ratingbuster is nice |
| 15:24.53 | TNZe | Gagorian, I was wondering if you in any kinda foreseeable future |
| 15:24.59 | Kain | i use that too :-D RatingBuster is nice |
| 15:25.11 | TNZe | could add a 'item comparison' (dps increase, longevity changes) sorta like how ratingbuster compares items |
| 15:25.20 | Kain | i second that lol |
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| 15:26.06 | TNZe | because thats like the only thing I have to do manually atm |
| 15:26.16 | TNZe | other than that drdamage does everything .P |
| 15:27.16 | TNZe | my tooltips are huge atm :( |
| 15:28.34 | Pkekyo | Dynom: thanks for the respect for imba paint skills...dunno if I mentioned that that is my -current- setup though... any ideas on how to improve it? |
| 15:28.43 | Gagorian | TNZe: I've got support for it if anyone wants to make an addon for it. |
| 15:28.56 | TNZe | oo |
| 15:28.57 | Gagorian | A separate addon that scans tooltips and gets DrDamage data for the changes |
| 15:28.59 | Pkekyo | he left? poopshoots! |
| 15:29.14 | TNZe | so basically |
| 15:29.15 | Gagorian | But I don't have time to do it atm, and it wont be core DrDamage |
| 15:29.27 | Gagorian | But a module/plugin should do fine |
| 15:29.38 | TNZe | you could implement it into uhm, ratingbuster |
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| 15:29.51 | Gagorian | Sure, would probably be pretty easy as well |
| 15:29.57 | Kain | nice i messed up DrDamage lol |
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| 15:30.10 | Gagorian | Just send the delta of the crucial damage stats to the DrDamage function |
| 15:30.12 | Kain | doh |
| 15:30.14 | Gagorian | and compare |
| 15:30.30 | Pkekyo | Dynom: red = wires, blue = fans, green = motherboard and such, yellow = other components |
| 15:30.30 | Pkekyo | http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1273/chassisxa5.gif |
| 15:30.30 | Pkekyo | any ideas on how to improve this design? |
| 15:30.46 | Kain | i put self:Print( calculation.manaRegen ) on line 617 of Caster.lua |
| 15:30.47 | Pkekyo | - for maximized airflow, that is |
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| 15:34.28 | Pkekyo | Daemona still here? |
| 15:34.55 | Pkekyo | shite |
| 15:34.55 | Pkekyo | I'm too late for fucking everything |
| 15:34.57 | Kain | hey Gagorian |
| 15:35.17 | Kain | @ line 930 in casters... i see if manaconsumalbes are on it adds 20 to mana regen |
| 15:35.22 | CIA-14 | 03bayi * r47260 10beql/ (locales/localization-fr.lua tooltip.lua tracker.lua): |
| 15:35.22 | CIA-14 | beql: |
| 15:35.22 | CIA-14 | - Tooltip: Added Party Quest objective status to tooltips (untested) |
| 15:35.23 | CIA-14 | - Tracker: 'Event' type objectives doesnt get a 0/1 in the tracker |
| 15:35.23 | CIA-14 | - Tracker: Fixed compatibility with Mobmap... again |
| 15:35.23 | CIA-14 | - Locales: small frFR locale adjusting |
| 15:35.28 | Kain | is that per second? |
| 15:35.51 | Kain | i also dont seem any thing for gems if your a mage or the master of elements |
| 15:36.02 | Kain | or is that elsewhere? |
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| 15:37.52 | Kain | ah... it's in mage.lua... |
| 15:39.46 | Daemona | Pkekyo hmm ? we are raiding ;) |
| 15:41.36 | NightHawkTheSane | hahahaha http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Privately-Public.aspx |
| 15:43.23 | Pkekyo | Daemona: you got any experience with those noctuna low-noise fans? |
| 15:43.46 | Pkekyo | how long are the wires on the 120mm ones? |
| 15:45.13 | jme | NightHawkTheSane: haha |
| 15:45.14 | jme | a wide-eyed gaspcoughchoke |
| 15:45.32 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: exactly what part of that was funny? |
| 15:45.59 | Pkekyo | is it the teacher knowing jack shit, or the guy the post is about? :< |
| 15:46.02 | Wogroipl | 03Numen somehow doesn't save the position I left it in when I log off or do a reloadui, does anyone know how to fix that? |
| 15:46.08 | jme | Pkekyo: "When you declare your functions and variables public, anyone can open your program in an IDE and see the source code. But if you use private variables and functions they won't be able to see anything because it will be protected." |
| 15:46.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ massively and scarily incorrect. :D |
| 15:46.41 | Amadeo | Anyone use an energy tick mod? |
| 15:46.47 | Pkekyo | yeah, I thought it sounded kinda odd...but then again, I could be wrong 'cause I know jack shit about programming |
| 15:47.16 | Pkekyo | "I remember leaving college because there was a mandatory class, 8 hours a day on Fridays for a month called "Surfing the Web". It was mandatory in the CIS program. The first day the professor was asked what ethernet was and she said it was like the internet, but not real, kinda like a ghost." |
| 15:47.16 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 15:48.00 | Amadeo | that class would have been awesome |
| 15:48.04 | Amadeo | you could just sleep |
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| 15:48.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: or, depending on when itwas, just surf the web and ignore the teacher ;) |
| 15:48.26 | Amadeo | Exactly! |
| 15:48.45 | Amadeo | and how could he scold you for doing what the class is called!? |
| 15:49.49 | Gagorian | Kain: Yeah, it's 20 per second. |
| 15:50.25 | Kain | hey Gag i sent you a few whipsers |
| 15:50.45 | Kain | i didnt want to continue flooding teh chatroom w/ my comments :) |
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| 15:51.38 | CIA-14 | 03arith * r47261 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldRaidBosses.tw.lua: |
| 15:51.38 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 15:51.38 | CIA-14 | - zhTW update |
| 15:51.50 | CIA-14 | 03arith * r47262 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (4 files): |
| 15:51.50 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 15:51.50 | CIA-14 | - zhTW update |
| 15:51.50 | nordor|off | hey, is this also a support channel for wowaceupdater? |
| 15:52.01 | NightHawkTheSane | #wau i believe |
| 15:52.08 | Pkekyo | depends on what mood the dev is in, methinks? :p |
| 15:52.08 | CIA-14 | 03arith * r47263 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.tw.lua: |
| 15:52.08 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 15:52.08 | CIA-14 | - zhTW update |
| 15:52.20 | CIA-14 | 03arith * r47264 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.tw.lua: |
| 15:52.20 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 15:52.20 | CIA-14 | - zhTW update |
| 15:52.24 | CIA-14 | 03arith * r47265 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.tw.lua: |
| 15:52.24 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 15:52.24 | CIA-14 | - zhTW update |
| 15:52.39 | CIA-14 | 03arith * r47266 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:52.39 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:52.39 | CIA-14 | - zhTW update |
| 15:52.48 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r47267 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua: |
| 15:52.48 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:52.48 | CIA-14 | - added Atlas 1.10.1 to compatible versions, cause no AtlasLoot relating lines got changed and Celellach already added new loots for this version ;) |
| 15:53.00 | Pkekyo | zhTW? |
| 15:53.06 | |Stan| | Taiwan? |
| 15:53.08 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 15:53.48 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 15:54.01 | Pkekyo | why can't they all just speak chinese? :< |
| 15:54.01 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 15:54.54 | NightHawkTheSane | because they're not from china? |
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| 15:55.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: why can't YOU just speak chinese? :P |
| 15:55.27 | durcyn | give it a hundred years and we all will |
| 15:55.29 | Pkekyo | because I'm a lazy git |
| 15:55.32 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: probably |
| 15:56.07 | cncfanatics | This page has been accessed 3,985 times. :o |
| 15:56.32 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: what page? |
| 15:56.42 | NightHawkTheSane | cncfanatics: almost as much as your mom.;) |
| 15:56.49 | durcyn | bam. |
| 15:56.58 | cncfanatics | NightHawkTheSane, lets not start about yours then eh ? |
| 15:56.58 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2 |
| 15:57.00 | |Stan| | <durcyn> give it a hundred years and we all will <- so true.. |
| 15:57.30 | durcyn | |Stan|: i saw firefly, i know what's up! |
| 15:57.49 | |Stan| | : |
| 15:57.50 | |Stan| | :) |
| 15:58.32 | Pkekyo | anyone here know much about computer chassis airflow? |
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| 15:59.23 | ulic | Pkekyo: only that mine sucks :) |
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| 16:01.48 | TecnoBrat | does anyone use AceBuffGroups? |
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| 16:02.23 | Hjalte | TecnoBrat, I was using it untill it started giving me errors a while back |
| 16:02.23 | pb_ee1 | I do, TecnoBrat. |
| 16:02.26 | TecnoBrat | or something similar that allows assigning of buffs for classes (like pallypower for paladins) |
| 16:02.45 | TecnoBrat | pb_ee1, what does the end result look like? do they get a bar to buff the group they are supposed to buff? |
| 16:02.58 | pb_ee1 | ? |
| 16:03.14 | pb_ee1 | No, it only lets you display in chat which guy should do which buff |
| 16:03.16 | Hjalte | tecnoBrat, your assignments are simply sent to a chatchannel. |
| 16:03.36 | pb_ee1 | If a buff is not configured, it will not display it in chat. |
| 16:03.57 | pb_ee1 | You can configure: druid, priest, pally, mage. Pally is a bit useless since they have pallypower |
| 16:03.59 | TecnoBrat | blah |
| 16:04.00 | TecnoBrat | http://media5.curse-gaming.com/media/resized_images/750x500/14651.jpg |
| 16:04.05 | TecnoBrat | I was looking for something like that |
| 16:04.19 | TecnoBrat | see the bar there for all of the classes, warrior, etc |
| 16:04.20 | pb_ee1 | that's pally power :p |
| 16:04.30 | TecnoBrat | thats pallypower, but I was looking for something similar for other classes |
| 16:05.10 | pb_ee1 | I don't know any addon doing the same thing unfortunately |
| 16:05.36 | pb_ee1 | Work -> home, see ya ;) |
| 16:05.53 | CIA-14 | 03jwensley2 * r47268 10MageAnnounce/ (MageAnnounce.lua MageAnnounce.toc): |
| 16:05.53 | CIA-14 | MageAnnounce: |
| 16:05.53 | CIA-14 | - Fixed bug with BG code |
| 16:06.36 | Pkekyo | ulic: not really all that helpful to me :< |
| 16:07.11 | ulic | Pkekyo: well, now despite what I may say in the future you know not to listen to me on that subject. |
| 16:07.22 | jme | so like |
| 16:07.27 | jme | do lightning crowns sell at all? |
| 16:08.24 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.24 | Pkekyo | I need more room for 120mm fans |
| 16:08.24 | Pkekyo | /me grabs a hammer. |
| 16:08.27 | Pkekyo | doh |
| 16:08.27 | jme | also |
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| 16:08.41 | Pkekyo | yay, works! |
| 16:08.42 | jme | it freaking sucks that my guild has only seen opera like twice |
| 16:08.49 | jme | ever |
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| 16:08.57 | Pkekyo | tbh, opera freaking sucks :p |
| 16:08.58 | jme | BBW 90% of the time |
| 16:08.59 | sb | wtb bioshock |
| 16:09.07 | jme | Pkekyo: i want my freaking legacy :P |
| 16:09.20 | Pkekyo | ah...I just hate it 'cause there's no loot for me there :> |
| 16:09.50 | Pkekyo | ulic: indeed, thanks for the heads-up |
| 16:10.33 | ulic | sorry, I'm in an odd mood, I'll try to refrain from more useless comments. |
| 16:10.34 | Pkekyo | meh, too much drilling work needs to be done to get more 120mm fans in this chassi :< |
| 16:10.52 | Pkekyo | - unless I make an entirely new hole in the side...hmm |
| 16:11.38 | Pkekyo | Wobin, thanks, but I allready have several in my desk |
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| 16:12.23 | Pkekyo | is it thursday today? |
| 16:12.31 | Natikra | All day |
| 16:12.36 | jme | karazhan day 2.. so yes |
| 16:12.41 | NightHawkTheSane | except for a few minutes around noon, when it'll be tuesday |
| 16:12.46 | Pkekyo | karazhan day 1 for me then :> |
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| 16:13.06 | Pkekyo | oh well, I passed noon about 6hrs ago |
| 16:13.10 | jme | we're doing gruuls on sundays now, kara on mon/wed/thurs |
| 16:13.31 | jme | when we get gruul on farm it'll probably be kara and gruul on sundays |
| 16:13.36 | Pkekyo | any fancy idea to fit an 80mm chassis fan where a 90mm is supposed to go? |
| 16:13.46 | Pkekyo | 92mm*, even |
| 16:13.50 | Wobin | Scaffolding |
| 16:13.56 | Pkekyo | Wobin: huh? |
| 16:14.17 | Wobin | ~dict scaffold |
| 16:14.30 | Wobin | hehe |
| 16:14.33 | Wobin | that's not much help! |
| 16:14.37 | Wobin | ~define scaffold |
| 16:14.37 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 16:14.42 | Wobin | ~wiki scaffold |
| 16:14.52 | jme | ~flee |
| 16:14.52 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 16:14.52 | Pkekyo | Wobin: you wan't me to kill people? O.o |
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| 16:15.29 | jme | scaffolds as a "temporary framework" applies to programming with web frameworks as well |
| 16:15.55 | Pkekyo | Wobin: a temporary framework? got any examples? |
| 16:16.20 | jme | oh, you aren't even talking about coding |
| 16:16.40 | Pkekyo | no, I'm talking about fitting a 80mm fan where a 92mm fan is supposed to go |
| 16:16.46 | jme | FAIL |
| 16:17.01 | Pkekyo | note: there's no mount, just a set of holes and such |
| 16:17.40 | durcyn | you need a fan shroud |
| 16:17.48 | Wobin | Now we're back to death =P |
| 16:18.04 | durcyn | even if it happens to be made of cardboard |
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| 16:18.23 | Pkekyo | fan shroud? |
| 16:18.29 | durcyn | yes |
| 16:18.51 | Pkekyo | not used to dealing with hardware in english, so I kinda need to see examples |
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| 16:19.39 | durcyn | it's a chunk of plastic that's one size on one end, and another size on the other end |
| 16:19.56 | Wobin | like a truncated cone? |
| 16:20.00 | Pkekyo | but that costs money :< |
| 16:20.01 | Pkekyo | I don't have money |
| 16:20.07 | durcyn | everything costs money |
| 16:20.20 | Wobin | you could cut apart a coathanger |
| 16:20.25 | Wobin | and wire the holes with loops |
| 16:20.34 | Wobin | but that will make the fan less than effective =) |
| 16:20.34 | durcyn | or cardboard and duct tape |
| 16:20.43 | jme | Pkekyo: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/12327-how-make-dual-heater-core-fan.html |
| 16:20.49 | jme | Pkekyo: is an example of making a fan shroud |
| 16:20.53 | Tornhoof | cable straps ;) |
| 16:21.01 | Wobin | 'zactly |
| 16:21.48 | Pkekyo | jme: so I basicly gotta get myself a plastic box..? |
| 16:22.07 | Wobin | well no... |
| 16:22.15 | Wobin | just macguyver the fan into place any way you can |
| 16:22.23 | Wobin | then fill in the gaps with some covering of some sort |
| 16:22.33 | Wobin | be it cardboard/tape/etc |
| 16:23.03 | Pkekyo | I'm good at macgyvering :> |
| 16:23.52 | Pkekyo | I fitted a 80mm fan in there allready, but it's like... held in place with one screw and gans in a 57 degree angle or something |
| 16:24.18 | Wobin | night all =) |
| 16:24.24 | Pkekyo | g'nite |
| 16:24.25 | Wobin | good luck with your fan, Pkekyo |
| 16:24.32 | Pkekyo | cheers, it's need |
| 16:24.33 | Pkekyo | e |
| 16:24.34 | Pkekyo | d |
| 16:27.08 | Pkekyo | could anyone please tell me why the flying fuck people still sell floppy drives? |
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| 16:29.05 | Elkano | backwards compatibility... are there still punch card readers around? |
| 16:29.37 | Pkekyo | punch cards? wha? |
| 16:30.05 | Chompers | jazz drives too |
| 16:30.09 | Chompers | zip disks |
| 16:30.16 | Pkekyo | in english please? :p |
| 16:30.28 | Elkano | punch card is the english word :/ |
| 16:31.09 | Pkekyo | never even heard of it |
| 16:31.35 | Elkano | use google image search on the term :) |
| 16:34.02 | Punkie` | a punch card is like a piece of card (hard paper) that has holes in it |
| 16:34.20 | Punkie` | that you feed into a machine to make it read its code |
| 16:35.35 | Elkano | ding :) |
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| 16:36.18 | Punkie` | cool grats |
| 16:36.23 | Punkie` | now go make me a victory sandwich |
| 16:36.47 | NightHawkTheSane | *sigh* kids these days, don't even know what a punch card reader is. |
| 16:37.12 | durcyn | back in my day we played dungeon on a 300-baud teletype, and we liked it |
| 16:40.03 | Elkano | honey, I dont think you wanna be taped to me, doya? |
| 16:41.00 | Punkie` | depends on how delicious the sandwich is and the quantity of sandwiches you make in the future. |
| 16:41.49 | Tornhoof | first multiplayer game i think i played over wan was descent 1 on some 2400 baud modem |
| 16:42.50 | Natikra | doom was mine, took us foever to figure out how to get the modems working right |
| 16:43.54 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 16:44.58 | Punkie` | mine was MUDs |
| 16:44.59 | Punkie` | awesome |
| 16:45.15 | Natikra | I tried muds, I never got into them |
| 16:45.19 | NightHawkTheSane | muds were freaking awesome |
| 16:45.21 | Punkie` | yep |
| 16:45.35 | Punkie` | I remember that glorious day when my MUD installed ANSI color |
| 16:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | pffft. color's for noobs. ;) |
| 16:45.55 | Punkie` | tbh |
| 16:46.02 | ennuilg | I wasted most of my school computer time on PernMUSH... |
| 16:46.03 | Punkie` | it was like going from doom to doom3 :D |
| 16:47.00 | Natikra | My buddy was a MUDer, he loved it, tried to get me to play forever, I stayed away that kind of game until Ultima Online. |
| 16:48.27 | Punkie` | it was awesome |
| 16:48.33 | Punkie` | especially with a decent client |
| 16:48.36 | Punkie` | MUSHclient <3 |
| 16:48.47 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, half of enjoying muds was getting a solid client |
| 16:48.52 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 Rapscallion |
| 16:50.04 | Punkie` | First time I ever played was through a telnet session ofc :) |
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| 16:50.53 | Pkekyo | anyone know how a chassis fan config should be for maximized airflow? |
| 16:51.06 | Elkano | BTX? ;) |
| 16:51.24 | Pkekyo | btx? |
| 16:52.05 | Elkano | well, current widespread PC chassis are ATX but there had been a new design a couple of years ago that would improve airflow: BTX |
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| 16:52.39 | Necrathex | btx sucks |
| 16:52.46 | [Liquidor] | Any way to hook or read a jump? (default: space bar) |
| 16:53.24 | Elkano | -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTX_%28form_factor%29 |
| 16:53.24 | Pkekyo | well, I've got a Big Tower chassis, and gonna fit it with low-noise low rpm fans... hence: I need to improve the airflow in my chassis for approx. the same temperatures |
| 16:53.24 | Necrathex | [Liquidor]: should be, there was an addon called jumpcounter which counted the number of times you've jumped |
| 16:54.18 | Pkekyo | Elkano: BTX looks pretty much just like my ATX setup |
| 16:54.32 | Pkekyo | although, what is MCH? |
| 16:55.16 | Elkano | well, BTX mainboards sit on the other side of the chasis so the card fans are towards the top and not the bottom |
| 16:56.05 | Pkekyo | so it's as if I took my ATX mainboard, flipped it and bolted it to my chassis side door? :> |
| 16:56.32 | Pkekyo | - granted I modified the back-panel of the chassis a bit |
| 16:56.43 | Pkekyo | - or even if I just turned my chassis upside-down? |
| 16:57.29 | Necrathex | it's just turned upside down afaik |
| 16:57.55 | Necrathex | all the psu heat blows into your system :/ |
| 16:58.19 | TNZe | lol |
| 16:58.27 | TNZe | a guy just asked if he could join the guild |
| 16:58.31 | TNZe | so we said "make an apply" |
| 16:58.40 | TNZe | and he said "geez, its an easy question, yes or no?" |
| 16:58.42 | TNZe | "no." |
| 16:58.43 | TNZe | "why?" |
| 16:59.12 | Pkekyo | This is my current chassis (crude, but efficient schematic) |
| 16:59.13 | Pkekyo | red = wires, blue = fans, green = motherboard and such, yellow = other components |
| 16:59.13 | Pkekyo | http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1273/chassisxa5.gif |
| 16:59.16 | [Liquidor] | Does Ace support hooksecurefunc ? |
| 16:59.27 | jme | TNZe: lol |
| 16:59.46 | cncfanatics | Acehook does Liquidor |
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| 16:59.53 | Pkekyo | any ideas on how to set up fans to maximize airflow in that chassis? |
| 17:00.31 | jme | Pkekyo: are the rear fans sucking air out? |
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| 17:00.50 | Necrathex | Pkekyo: use some arrows for directions, not clear right now |
| 17:01.05 | Necrathex | fan blowing directions ;p |
| 17:01.23 | jme | if the front 120mm and 80mm are blowing in, and the rear fans are sucking air out, it should be fine... |
| 17:01.41 | jme | i think you want air out slightly > air in to minimize dust, i don't remember |
| 17:01.43 | Pkekyo | jme: I'm not quite sure.. :p |
| 17:02.00 | Necrathex | imho you should have one general airflow direction for best results |
| 17:02.02 | jme | Pkekyo: so take them out and check the direction they're flowing, there's an arrow on them ;) |
| 17:02.10 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 17:02.10 | jme | Necrathex: yeah, usually front -> rear |
| 17:02.26 | jme | or front-> rear and top |
| 17:02.29 | Necrathex | or just rear :P |
| 17:02.36 | jme | :X |
| 17:02.40 | [Liquidor] | Oh it's just :SecureHook instead of :Hook when hooksecurefunc is needed? |
| 17:02.41 | Elkano | who used to play with LEGO? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ3AcPEPbH0 |
| 17:02.47 | Necrathex | 0 casefans ftw |
| 17:03.08 | Pkekyo | jme: no arrow, but I checked, the rear ones are sucking air in, as is the 120mm in the fromt, lower front fan is blowing out O.o |
| 17:03.17 | cncfanatics | Liquidor, think so |
| 17:03.19 | jme | Pkekyo: um |
| 17:03.23 | Pkekyo | Necrathex: true, but overheated components sucks |
| 17:04.07 | Pkekyo | jme: meknows it sucks, it was pretty much only done that way because of aesthetic values...gonna redo the whole thing |
| 17:04.13 | jme | Pkekyo: personally i'd reverse the rear fans to blowing out and see what happens |
| 17:04.22 | Necrathex | ah well, i have an ancient pc |
| 17:04.44 | Necrathex | at least there's no audible difference between off and on (if idle) :) |
| 17:04.51 | jme | Pkekyo: the less hot air you have in the case the better, and that single 80mm fan isn't going to be powerful enough to keep the hot air going ot that all of the rear fans are pushing to the front |
| 17:05.41 | jme | s/ot/out |
| 17:06.23 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 17:06.53 | Pkekyo | rear fans blowing out sounds reasonable... more dust there...bad place to be sucking in tbh :> |
| 17:07.13 | Pkekyo | Elkano: that lego stuff your work? |
| 17:07.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: USED TO? pfff. STILL DO. :P |
| 17:07.56 | Pkekyo | I'd do so if I still could afford it...that stuff is awesome |
| 17:08.14 | Pkekyo | christ, this is absurd...fan filters cost more than the fans themselves O.o |
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| 17:11.10 | Elkano | Pkekyo, no, I don't have that many parts nor do I have mindstorms |
| 17:11.59 | Pkekyo | my brother have fuckloads of parts...bought immense sets when he was a kid |
| 17:12.14 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:12.21 | Pkekyo | helloes |
| 17:12.42 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began | check out #wowace-cia for realtime commit log |
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| 17:13.52 | Pkekyo | christ, forgot I was logged onto wow and autorunning...I got from terokkar forest to netherstorm O.o |
| 17:13.59 | cladhaire | lol |
| 17:14.08 | jme | gg |
| 17:14.35 | Pkekyo | I was trying to get to thrallmar :< |
| 17:14.40 | jme | wait what |
| 17:14.45 | jme | you didn't fall off a cliff in BEM or something? |
| 17:14.55 | NightHawkTheSane | jme: i suppose he means "autoflying":P |
| 17:15.02 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: correct |
| 17:15.07 | jme | oh, haha |
| 17:15.13 | NightHawkTheSane | no one walks anywhere at 70 :P |
| 17:15.18 | Mudkips | I heard if you flew down into the void you will die |
| 17:15.31 | Pkekyo | still a fucking miracle I didn't aggro kazzak |
| 17:15.31 | Pkekyo | Mudkips: correct |
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| 17:16.04 | jme | i was going to grief an alliance raid on kazzak but i got caught in the crossfire by a few shadowbolts :( |
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| 17:16.25 | Mudkips | kazzak |
| 17:16.40 | jme | so high that i had to spirit res |
| 17:17.46 | Pkekyo | I aggroed kazzak on the way back though :< |
| 17:17.46 | NeoTron | I flew by kazzak once and he aggrod me mid-air and oneshotted me for 34000 |
| 17:17.50 | Pkekyo | autoflying ftl |
| 17:18.10 | syeren | !c eu Dentarg Ausmara |
| 17:18.14 | NeoTron | and had to spirit res but there was no spirit guide at the kazzak graveyard so i had to run to thrallmar |
| 17:22.24 | jme | NeoTron: there wasn't? |
| 17:22.45 | Mudkips | there should be |
| 17:22.47 | Mudkips | that's weird |
| 17:22.51 | jme | yeah |
| 17:24.06 | Pkekyo | I've gotta buy this wLAN usb antenna thingie...should it be of the same brand as the router? |
| 17:24.42 | jme | shadow priest with 206k HK's |
| 17:24.42 | jme | :O |
| 17:26.49 | Pkekyo | wtb wLAN expert |
| 17:29.24 | charon | Pkekyo: no, unless it's some kind of proprietary 112mbit router |
| 17:29.42 | charon | just check that both are 802.11g (usually, nobody buys a/b any more these days) |
| 17:30.10 | Pkekyo | it's a dlink 54mbps router and some netgear usb dongle (1/3 the price of the dlink one) |
| 17:32.21 | charon | 54mbit is completely standardized and should work across all hardware |
| 17:32.41 | charon | there is the a/g difference but "nobody" uses a |
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| 17:36.11 | Pkekyo | would a 'logistics' education include programming? |
| 17:36.31 | NeoTron | so what makes solarian go melee on casters in the raid? |
| 17:36.38 | NeoTron | she killed at least our shadow priest with melee once |
| 17:36.51 | NeoTron | in phase 1 that is |
| 17:37.06 | Gngsk | flakey caster ai |
| 17:37.31 | NeoTron | and no at that point (quite a while ago) there was no spirit resser by kazzak. there isone there now |
| 17:39.13 | dfdf | does anyone use a database with cartographer_vendors they didn't make themself? |
| 17:40.54 | Pkekyo | netgear should be a decent brand when it comes to wLAN stuff, no? |
| 17:41.07 | evl | yeah |
| 17:41.11 | evl | it's all the same now |
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| 17:43.19 | Fisker- | haha |
| 17:43.24 | Fisker- | 2k is in shit to their knees |
| 17:43.57 | Pkekyo | hmm....low-noise fans, wLAN router, wLAN usb dongle... |
| 17:43.57 | Pkekyo | anything else I should get while I'm at it? |
| 17:44.16 | Fisker- | I seriously hope that every reviewer pull their score-statements and reduce it to like 0% :P |
| 17:45.36 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: 2k? |
| 17:45.41 | Fisker- | 2k games |
| 17:45.48 | Fisker- | they buttfucked their customers |
| 17:45.51 | Pkekyo | howso? |
| 17:45.52 | Fisker- | now they're paying the price |
| 17:46.07 | Fisker- | Put in an activation scheme that only allows for 1 reinstall |
| 17:47.29 | KarlThePagan | wow |
| 17:47.39 | NeoTron | man I find myself obsessively reloading wowjutsu so I can see if it has updated us yet |
| 17:47.41 | KarlThePagan | what about some kind of registered uninstall? |
| 17:47.49 | Fisker- | doesn't work yet |
| 17:47.59 | NeoTron | since the last time it scanned, we've killed vashj and solarian! top 500 after that update most likely |
| 17:48.08 | Fisker- | it's supposed to remove the activation "charge" when you uninstall |
| 17:48.12 | Fisker- | but not all have gotten it to work |
| 17:48.21 | KarlThePagan | that's stupid shit right there |
| 17:48.22 | Fisker- | but even if it were it would be retarded |
| 17:48.33 | Fisker- | and i love valve again |
| 17:48.39 | KarlThePagan | InstallAnywhere has better schemes than that... yea valve too |
| 17:48.47 | Fisker- | The steam version was patched to allow activations from any system |
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| 17:49.06 | KarlThePagan | install, reg... you get X days of use until your reg expires and it phones home again |
| 17:50.09 | KarlThePagan | some IA apps let you customize how often you have to refresh the key... since it's a double-edged sword |
| 17:50.33 | art3mis | , two days after the game's US release, the 2K Games website and patch server went down. Since a connection to the 2K Games servers are necessary to activate and patch BioShock, those who purchased the retail CD or DVD of the PC version were unable to install or play the game. This issue has since been resolved, with both the website and the activation server coming back online around 3PM GMT the same day. |
| 17:50.33 | art3mis | Midnight releases of BioShock all over Australia were canceled as the game was unplayable until the 2K Games website became functional again |
| 17:50.50 | art3mis | hahah |
| 17:51.01 | KarlThePagan | I'm deffinately getting the steam ver ;) |
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| 17:51.10 | Fisker- | btw you know what? |
| 17:51.21 | deltron | oh man |
| 17:51.28 | deltron | there's a patch for bioshock already? |
| 17:51.30 | Fisker- | "We're using a different system than Valve, so you won't have the same problems like you had with Half-Life 2" |
| 17:51.38 | Fisker- | That was the words of their community rep prior to release |
| 17:51.46 | Fisker- | And she was right |
| 17:51.50 | Fisker- | it was way worse than HL2 |
| 17:51.58 | deltron | I bought the retail copy |
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| 17:52.17 | gi2k15 | Hey, does somebody know an addon that can tracks the duration of ice-trapped mobs? I remember I used to use one similar with my lock, but couldn't find anyone for hunter. |
| 17:52.17 | Fisker- | the patch servers = activation servers |
| 17:52.21 | Fisker- | it downloads some data to install it |
| 17:52.29 | Fisker- | and installs a rootkit so they can shit over your face |
| 17:52.31 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: what problems with HL2? |
| 17:52.43 | Fisker- | there were ~2 hours of activation delay |
| 17:52.46 | KarlThePagan | oh man Fisker- that's AESSOMEEEEEEE... ahahah |
| 17:52.46 | deltron | you mean that copy protection BS? |
| 17:52.48 | KarlThePagan | hahaha |
| 17:52.49 | Fisker- | for some people |
| 17:53.48 | deltron | I bought bioshock on tuesday |
| 17:54.05 | Pkekyo | I never had any problem with HL2...input my activation code and got instant download...<3 |
| 17:54.11 | Fisker- | same |
| 17:54.22 | Fisker- | but apparently some people had problems with activation for a couple of hours |
| 17:54.42 | art3mis | where oh where is rzr1911 ;P |
| 17:54.42 | KarlThePagan | mine was a little flaky at first... but no problems since |
| 17:54.52 | art3mis | they'd fix that crap up right quick ;P |
| 17:54.55 | deltron | lol |
| 17:55.02 | deltron | there's no cracks for bioshock yet |
| 17:55.05 | deltron | it's kinda funny |
| 17:55.10 | art3mis | yet |
| 17:55.12 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:55.23 | Matrix110 | just a matter of time |
| 17:55.37 | art3mis | the activation limit is gonna drive a lot of people insane |
| 17:55.39 | deltron | securom is crap |
| 17:55.46 | Matrix110 | activation limit Oo? |
| 17:55.51 | Fisker- | oh looooooooool |
| 17:55.52 | deltron | yeah |
| 17:55.55 | Fisker- | they let you manually activate now |
| 17:55.59 | deltron | you can only activate it twice |
| 17:55.59 | Fisker- | After four minutes on hold, I was told that the only way they'd unlock it is if I take a photo of the disc and the manual and email it to them. Wow… even Microsoft doesn’t make you do that. |
| 17:55.59 | art3mis | and of course they're gonna turn to nocd cracks and other things to circumvent it just so they can play the game they bought |
| 17:56.00 | Fisker- | AHAHAHHAAH |
| 17:56.11 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 17:56.14 | Fisker- | "Hey i want to play bioshock" |
| 17:56.25 | KarlThePagan | SSN and mother's maiden name? |
| 17:56.29 | Matrix110 | only twice??? WTF |
| 17:56.29 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 17:56.32 | Fisker- | "Sure send a photo, wait 4 weeks for processing, and a 50$ processing fee" |
| 17:56.49 | gi2k15 | Bioshock said that if you uninstall the game and not just reinstall it, you can do multiple installations without a problem |
| 17:56.55 | art3mis | heh the ms activation is why most of my test machines constantly remind me i need to activate ;P |
| 17:56.59 | gi2k15 | If it's true or not, I don't know |
| 17:57.13 | Fisker- | It doesn't work for everybody |
| 17:57.16 | Matrix110 | paying loads of money for a "better" copy protection is in 99% of the cases totally wasted money... |
| 17:57.19 | Fisker- | If it even works for anyone |
| 17:57.26 | Fisker- | And it's STILL unacceptable |
| 17:57.32 | gi2k15 | Sure |
| 17:57.50 | gi2k15 | Too much protection sometimes results on this... |
| 17:57.53 | art3mis | Matrix110: heh yeah, your 14 guys working ont he encryption scheme are no match for the 2.5 million bored crackers ;P |
| 17:58.04 | Matrix110 | there arent that many |
| 17:58.11 | art3mis | you'd be surprised |
| 17:58.48 | Matrix110 | the amount of people that can actually crack (and do it) is quite low |
| 17:58.48 | art3mis | free market techno hippies wil always win in the matter of security and protection |
| 17:59.04 | art3mis | no |
| 17:59.05 | Pkekyo | agreed |
| 17:59.19 | art3mis | the amount of people that can crack GOOD and consistently is low ;P |
| 17:59.32 | art3mis | the amount of brute forcers and amateurs is staggeringly high |
| 17:59.38 | Matrix110 | thats what i mean |
| 17:59.48 | art3mis | and they still stand a chance of lucking out |
| 18:00.14 | art3mis | i like to think of crackers as scientists |
| 18:00.28 | Matrix110 | assembler sucks anyway thats why there arent many good ones:P |
| 18:00.47 | art3mis | some win nobel's some are insane, but a majority ofthem just like mixing chemicals to see whats gonna happen and who knows maybe theyll get something |
| 18:01.13 | Matrix110 | and the more far other programming languages improve the less people actually can understand assembler |
| 18:01.16 | art3mis | i should call beowulf and tell him to come out of retirment ;P |
| 18:01.49 | Fisker- | i'm totally pissing off their moderators btw |
| 18:01.59 | Fisker- | I made the usual finger-ascii at the copy protection topic |
| 18:02.04 | Fisker- | and i was warned for "insulting members" |
| 18:02.16 | Fisker- | then i told them i wasn't insulting anyone, and they told me i were |
| 18:02.36 | Fisker- | and i told them i was making the ascii for the proection itself, and i didn't know copy protections were sentient beings :P |
| 18:02.42 | deltron | Fisker-: tell them you're a foriegner! |
| 18:02.55 | Fisker- | In my country it means "good job" |
| 18:02.56 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:03.30 | Pkekyo | same sign we use to order two beers here means 'sod off' or equivalent in britain :> |
| 18:04.55 | KarlThePagan | Pkekyo, it means "cunt" I believe |
| 18:06.05 | Pkekyo | dunno, but atleast you get your lights knocked out if you try to order a beer |
| 18:06.22 | KarlThePagan | yea, my army buddies tell that story ;) |
| 18:06.32 | KarlThePagan | 2 is thumb and index :) |
| 18:07.29 | Pkekyo | US soldiers that've been on NATO exercises in northern Norway have a shitty sense of humor :p |
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| 18:07.38 | Fisker- | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Rebelphoenix/biodrm.jpg <-LOL |
| 18:08.31 | Pkekyo | some place named Hell (means 'luck' in norwegian)...all the US soldiers come home, thinking they're really tough, bragging 'bout going through hell and back... |
| 18:10.40 | Fisker- | our soldiers have written "Schadenfreud" on some of their weapons |
| 18:10.45 | Fisker- | just in english or danish |
| 18:10.46 | Fisker- | :D |
| 18:11.01 | Ordog | "schadenfreude" plz |
| 18:11.02 | TNZe | "MT to OT" |
| 18:11.06 | TNZe | in SSC at elevator |
| 18:11.11 | TNZe | "Try intervene!" |
| 18:11.16 | KarlThePagan | hah |
| 18:11.24 | KarlThePagan | that elevator boss is tricky |
| 18:11.30 | KarlThePagan | almost as bad as the pipe boss |
| 18:11.30 | Fisker- | i like this |
| 18:11.40 | Ordog | how silly sounds "harming joy" btw ^^ is there a better word for it? |
| 18:11.58 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 18:12.02 | Fisker- | it was "Joy" they wrote btw |
| 18:12.22 | Mudkips | wtf http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/08/20/abs_crossfire/page4.html |
| 18:12.26 | Fisker- | And some wrote "Skadefryd/Fryd" which is the same words in danish |
| 18:12.27 | Mudkips | wall of fans indeed |
| 18:12.38 | TNZe | that elevator boss has crap loot |
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| 18:19.10 | art3mis | that erminds me, i should reconnect my zalman revervator in my new machine sometime |
| 18:20.29 | KarlThePagan | i want a liquid cooled laptop |
| 18:23.26 | NeoTron | I don't think English has a word for "skadeglädje" |
| 18:23.46 | art3mis | KarlThePagan: get a toughbook and submerge it ;P |
| 18:23.46 | NeoTron | joy/happiness from someone elses misery |
| 18:23.49 | NeoTron | ftw |
| 18:25.23 | Necrathex | malicious pleasure? |
| 18:25.46 | art3mis | Sadism ;P |
| 18:26.01 | NeoTron | not joy from inflicting pain |
| 18:26.07 | NeoTron | it's a passive happiness |
| 18:26.23 | ckknight | ~seen kergoth |
| 18:26.26 | purl | kergoth is currently on #oe #norganna #wowace #elinux. Has said a total of 185 messages. Is idling for 15h 57m 35s, last said: 'stitchlib is used by more than one of his addons, though.'. |
| 18:26.26 | art3mis | i like to call it subjective humour ;P |
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| 18:34.52 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Joker * r47270 10CowTip/CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - remove debug line. |
| 18:36.32 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather tiantang |
| 18:36.55 | jme | the bot isn't here |
| 18:36.58 | Pkekyo | damnit |
| 18:37.03 | Pkekyo | the bot just ruined my life |
| 18:37.05 | Pkekyo | wtb bot |
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| 18:39.55 | Pkekyo | what happened to the bot? |
| 18:40.04 | deltron | lol |
| 18:40.26 | durcyn | 12:28 -!- ThraeBot [i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] |
| 18:40.27 | Pkekyo | for real, geif bot :< |
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| 18:48.20 | jme | HAI GSuY |
| 18:48.32 | jme | man i wish i could take tomorrow off since i start class on monday |
| 18:48.36 | Fisker- | http://i11.tinypic.com/4y6qd1h.png <-5 million hours in mspaint |
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| 18:49.24 | jme | is the bioshock demo any good? |
| 18:50.07 | Fisker- | yeah, you get the rootkit for free |
| 18:50.14 | Mudkips | lmao |
| 18:50.16 | Fisker- | with the full game you have to pay for the rootkit |
| 18:50.19 | Mudkips | in b4 keylogger |
| 18:50.22 | jme | haha |
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| 19:03.01 | art3mis | "i read somewhere that twinkies have a shelf life od 20 years, what i wanna know is that after 20 years have passed and you were to eat one of those expired twinkies would you go "hmm... hey come here try this, does it taste off to you?"" |
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| 19:14.24 | TNZe | hmm |
| 19:14.31 | TNZe | Omen keeps on showing my shadowfiend at top >_< |
| 19:14.57 | Tornhoof | i don't think you would notice it artemis, but i don't think they have a shelflife of 20 years, not even milk powder has that afaik |
| 19:15.10 | Pkekyo | "Also, I think knives are a good idea. Big, fuck-off shiny ones. Ones that look like they could skin a crocodile." |
| 19:16.54 | art3mis | Tornhoof: its a joke from bobcat goldthwait |
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| 19:18.07 | Tornhoof | i see |
| 19:25.36 | snurre | nerf facebook spam on birthdays :( |
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| 19:27.41 | Fisker- | ~hump Arrowmaster |
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| 19:33.38 | CIA-14 | 03Tristan * r47272 10Enhancer/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:33.38 | CIA-14 | Enhancer: |
| 19:33.38 | CIA-14 | - Started work on estimating Chance on hit/Use effects for EP |
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| 19:43.47 | dockler | Hey, I installed some fonts while trying out this addon, and now my fonts look all small, and it use too look all big and bold and i dont know how to change it back now, look i'll show you |
| 19:45.05 | dockler | http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8135/wowscrnshot082307040211fe3.jpg |
| 19:45.24 | dockler | thats how my text use to look in game, all big and stuff |
| 19:45.30 | dockler | now it looks like this |
| 19:45.32 | dockler | http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6596/wowscrnshot082307154227re9.jpg |
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| 19:51.33 | Qaarh | dockler: got Prat installed? |
| 19:53.11 | dockler | yea but it wasnt checked in the addons |
| 19:54.06 | Qaarh | dockler: try removing the fonts and see if it gets better, and then add them one by one |
| 19:56.38 | sylvanaar | dockler make sure that the new "Font" module is enabled |
| 19:56.43 | dockler | it got a little better when i removed one of the fonts |
| 19:57.06 | dockler | no i dont want the new font it looks small i want my old font back |
| 19:57.14 | sylvanaar | ... |
| 19:57.26 | sylvanaar | dockler make sure that the "Font" module is enabled |
| 19:57.38 | dockler | what font module |
| 19:57.58 | sylvanaar | in prat |
| 19:58.09 | dockler | i didnt have prat checked though in my addons |
| 19:58.27 | sylvanaar | well then how do you expect to change the font |
| 19:59.01 | NightHawkTheSane | elves! |
| 19:59.03 | NightHawkTheSane | faeries! |
| 19:59.04 | NightHawkTheSane | magic! |
| 20:01.34 | dockler | i dont know, it never was checked before |
| 20:01.49 | dockler | i just want my text to look like this again http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8135/wowscrnshot082307040211fe3.jpg |
| 20:03.47 | cladhaire | dockler: feel free to use images.gammatester.com |
| 20:03.52 | cladhaire | its quite a bit faster than imageshack |
| 20:04.03 | cladhaire | its my personal photo hosting O.o |
| 20:04.27 | dockler | i just want my old text back |
| 20:04.44 | Mounick | dockler: use Omen instead of KTM :P |
| 20:05.02 | dockler | i dont care |
| 20:05.13 | dockler | even my charcter name, hp/mana is all stupid looking |
| 20:05.19 | dockler | and the friggin quests text too |
| 20:05.50 | dockler | it all deuce ui v2's fault |
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| 20:07.33 | Elkano | ~whalerape Fisker- |
| 20:07.47 | Kadrahil | ~whalecrit Elkano |
| 20:07.48 | purl | ACTION crits Elkano with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Elkano dies |
| 20:08.00 | Elkano | ~whaleparry Kadrahil |
| 20:08.01 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Kadrahil's attacks. |
| 20:08.07 | Kadrahil | ~whaledodge Elkano |
| 20:08.12 | Kadrahil | :X |
| 20:08.17 | deltron | lol |
| 20:08.25 | NeoTron | art3mis: I once at a much fresher twinkie than 20 yrs old that ended up being entirely modly |
| 20:08.35 | NeoTron | was the nastiest bite into anything I've ever done |
| 20:08.56 | Kadrahil | so with gruul at 50% best attempt last week |
| 20:09.03 | Kadrahil | i wonder if we'll have him this weekend... |
| 20:09.04 | NeoTron | and to make it more fun, it was the (entire!) inside that was moldy, not really visible on the outside.. |
| 20:10.58 | art3mis | a moldy twinkie? |
| 20:11.03 | art3mis | how is that possible? |
| 20:11.49 | NightHawkTheSane | its entirely possible,they have sugar in them... |
| 20:12.13 | art3mis | no they dont |
| 20:12.21 | art3mis | thats giant space worm ooze |
| 20:12.36 | art3mis | not from the space worm hiney btw |
| 20:14.05 | NeoTron | it was an abomination |
| 20:14.12 | NeoTron | more so than a twinky normall yis |
| 20:14.36 | Jaxon | Okay, so, if someone wrote a mod that both sides (horde/alliance) can use, but specifically restricted it working for alliance and then went to the trouble to obfuscate his code, do you think it is "wrong" to remove the obfuscation and put the functionality back in for both factions? |
| 20:14.58 | cladhaire | depends on the license of the addon |
| 20:15.11 | cladhaire | i'd be more likely to make an even better version for the other faction. |
| 20:15.19 | cladhaire | without using a drop of his code :P |
| 20:15.30 | NeoTron | I am however more curious as to what the addon might be |
| 20:15.51 | cladhaire | indeed :P |
| 20:15.51 | Jaxon | NeoTron: let me find the link in my guild forums, one second. |
| 20:16.26 | NightHawkTheSane | i have to wonder how you could obfuscate that code.. o_0 |
| 20:16.42 | sylvanaar | just dont obey the liscense and tell him to sue |
| 20:17.12 | sylvanaar | im sick of all the open source bs |
| 20:17.12 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: all the variable names are forms of Ii111111iI and there are no line breaks. |
| 20:17.17 | NeoTron | back in the good old days you could byte compile the lua code and distribute it in binary format |
| 20:17.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: line br3eaks are easy to format in though |
| 20:17.34 | Jaxon | I never said it was GOOD obfuscation. |
| 20:17.37 | sylvanaar | its all lies anyways - the whole concept was debunked |
| 20:18.02 | Jaxon | My guildmate says: Psychowerk> Be sure to call him a jackass when you post the alliance-enabled version. |
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| 20:18.14 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: what are you talking about? |
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| 20:18.50 | sylvanaar | every claim the open source movment has made was checked, and not one, NOT ONE, was actually true |
| 20:19.22 | Jaxon | NeoTron: aha, found it http://downloads.curse.com/details/5418/ |
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| 20:19.39 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: I have absolutely 0 idea what you're talking about now, =/ |
| 20:19.49 | Jaxon | A guild mate linked it and I looked at it, out of curiosity, and the author is a pretty big jick. |
| 20:19.56 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: he's on his wah wah i hate open source high horse again :P |
| 20:20.01 | cladhaire | uhh okay. |
| 20:20.08 | sylvanaar | theres a book by a guy from MIT who evaluated the claims made by the open-source movement |
| 20:20.13 | dodga | Jaxon: AFAIK there is an addon that does AV group queue on files.wowace.com |
| 20:20.18 | cladhaire | what the hell does that have to do with the current conversation? |
| 20:20.22 | dodga | Also, Blizzard will enable this again sometime soon... |
| 20:20.36 | cladhaire | some of my addons i retain the full copyright to.. and I will take legal action if that's violated |
| 20:20.40 | NightHawkTheSane | cladbot: presumably because you brought up the concept of a license |
| 20:20.50 | NightHawkTheSane | er, stupid autocomplete :p |
| 20:20.54 | Jaxon | dodga: I brought it up more for discussion purposes. |
| 20:21.09 | Jaxon | dodga: do you know the name of the mod on wowace? |
| 20:21.19 | cladhaire | NightHawkTheSane: hrm.. okay.. seems like an odd tangent :P |
| 20:21.48 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: agreed, but I'm not the one making it, so ;) |
| 20:22.01 | dodga | Jaxon: Lemme check |
| 20:22.03 | cladhaire | good, glad we could take that journey together, lol |
| 20:22.07 | sylvanaar | hey keywords: liscense, open source, "can i use" |
| 20:22.23 | dodga | Jaxon: SmartQueue and LightQueue |
| 20:22.38 | sylvanaar | lol cladhaire you have some tangents of your own my friend |
| 20:22.42 | dodga | Jaxon: Don't use them, though. Just saw them when browsing through WAU :> |
| 20:22.48 | Jaxon | dodga: Aha, thanks. |
| 20:23.07 | cladhaire | Jaxon: if you want to test it out, I have a few things I think I can do to make this work |
| 20:23.10 | cladhaire | its not very hard |
| 20:23.31 | NeoTron | what an absolute retarded addon |
| 20:23.36 | NeoTron | I mean retarded to make it "horde only" |
| 20:23.59 | cladhaire | its ally only |
| 20:24.01 | Jaxon | Test what out? I'd only be doing it because the whole concept of horde only pisses me off and the author comes across as a complete retard in the comments. |
| 20:24.12 | NeoTron | "This AddOn is HORDE ONLY. " |
| 20:24.14 | cladhaire | oh |
| 20:24.15 | cladhaire | my bad :P |
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| 20:24.43 | [Liquidor] | Is Joker complete? Just heard about it so... |
| 20:24.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: well, there's arguably plenty of places where faction-only addons are entirely justifiable. |
| 20:25.09 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, like Berserking mods? |
| 20:25.18 | Kadrahil | [Liquidor]: no |
| 20:25.51 | sylvanaar | cladhaire i'm actually mad about some posts on wau's sf.net forum and do not like open source today |
| 20:25.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: mods that tie into leveling guids, race-specific mods, pre xp you had class-specific mods, which where faction specific by default, quest-specific mods.. |
| 20:26.10 | Jaxon | I'm surprised it isn't complete. By know, ckknight has finished his current project and move on to rewriting other parts of the standard UI. Somehow I see him attacking the minimap next. |
| 20:26.10 | sylvanaar | does it day "horde only" cant you say "I have a horde main" |
| 20:26.25 | cladhaire | lol I wonder if this could be changed as easily as changing "Horde" to "Alliance" in all locations :P |
| 20:26.27 | ckknight | Jaxon: nah |
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| 20:26.48 | Jaxon | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, but that makes sense. Giving horde map notes for Westfall and quest information for Dark Shore is kind of dumb. |
| 20:27.02 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: it's mostly complete, just needs tweaking and the like now |
| 20:27.20 | Kadrahil | Jaxon: i'd just use it to grief darkshire quests |
| 20:27.24 | Jaxon | cladhaire: the most annoying thing about it is lack of end returns. |
| 20:27.24 | Kadrahil | ;) |
| 20:27.35 | Jaxon | Kadrahil: and thats just the kind of asshole |
| 20:27.41 | Kadrahil | Jaxon: haha |
| 20:27.42 | Jaxon | Kadrahil: and thats just the kind of asshole I like to see. |
| 20:27.47 | Funkeh` | ~seen nymbia |
| 20:27.53 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-149-62.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 17h 39m 12s ago, saying: '.'. |
| 20:27.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: yeah, like i said, justifiable in some cases. :) |
| 20:28.06 | Kadrahil | Jaxon: i was running to stormwind once and saw like 8 lowbie alliance questing around some elites in darkshire |
| 20:28.08 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, Okay. So here's the 1-billion question (since I know you prolly heard this one before a billion times... at least) Joker > Ace ? And why? |
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| 20:28.17 | Kadrahil | Jaxon: they died :X |
| 20:28.26 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather nohappy |
| 20:28.31 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: I detail it at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Joker |
| 20:28.34 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Nohappy, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (0/52/9). 9759 HP; 8199 Armour; 1582 AP; 184.7 Melee DPS; 29.08% melee crit; 56 melee hit; 101 +spell dmg/heal; 7.76% dodge; 5.64% block; 107 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +20 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 963 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuwuwp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q9l4o ]] |
| 20:28.34 | Pkekyo | ~seen ThraeBot |
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| 20:28.36 | Jaxon | [Liquidor]: http://wowace.com/wiki/Joker |
| 20:28.40 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, is it more "advanced" or more like... "simplified" ? |
| 20:28.42 | Kadrahil | SPAM |
| 20:28.48 | [Liquidor] | ckknight kk will take a look |
| 20:29.05 | ckknight | depends on the situation. It should be easier to code against, and the backend code is easier to understand |
| 20:29.16 | ckknight | I'm still contemplating adding contracts and the like to it, I think I might |
| 20:29.26 | Kadrahil | ckknight: this might force me to actually code an addon :( |
| 20:29.35 | ckknight | lol |
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| 20:30.54 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47273 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: LibJokerConfig-1.0 - reposition after 1 frame has passed, thus fixing all the scroll bar issues, since the height of everything isn't known until said frame has passed. |
| 20:30.55 | [Liquidor] | ckknight "Note: This documentation is auto-generated. Please note that direct modifications may be overwritten on next autogenerate." -- How? |
| 20:31.13 | ckknight | Autodoc ;-) |
| 20:31.20 | ckknight | the comments in the code itself turn into wiki format |
| 20:31.21 | [Liquidor] | No clue what that is :S |
| 20:31.32 | [Liquidor] | Arh okay. |
| 20:32.02 | Pkekyo | warriors not knowing what MS and TM is makes me want to rip off their heads and shit down their throats... /sigh |
| 20:32.35 | JoshBorke | TM? |
| 20:32.43 | Awaa | TM? (im an priest :p) |
| 20:32.46 | Awaa | ^^ |
| 20:32.49 | JoshBorke | same |
| 20:32.49 | Pkekyo | Tactical Mastery >.< |
| 20:32.52 | JoshBorke | oh |
| 20:32.57 | JoshBorke | i thought they got that for free? |
| 20:33.10 | NightHawkTheSane | they get a base version for free, and can talent to improve it |
| 20:33.11 | Pkekyo | noes |
| 20:33.16 | JoshBorke | or is the improved one they get more |
| 20:33.18 | Awaa | t1 prot tree isnt it? |
| 20:33.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Awaa: yes |
| 20:33.26 | JoshBorke | t2 it hought |
| 20:33.29 | [Liquidor] | TM = Threat Meter? :> |
| 20:33.37 | JoshBorke | TM = Tarren Mill? |
| 20:33.40 | NightHawkTheSane | JoshBorke: it used to be t2 arms tree |
| 20:33.41 | Pkekyo | screw you all |
| 20:33.45 | Awaa | :D |
| 20:33.46 | [Liquidor] | TM != Tactical Mastery ! |
| 20:33.58 | JoshBorke | TM OBVIOUSLY means TradeMarked |
| 20:35.12 | Pkekyo | christ, my OT refuses to unequip his shield and do some dps on trsah |
| 20:35.15 | Pkekyo | trash* |
| 20:35.17 | [Liquidor] | Am I the only one not getting this?: |
| 20:35.18 | [Liquidor] | # -1 is the very last value, -2 comes before that, -10000 comes before that, and 10000 comes before that. |
| 20:35.18 | [Liquidor] | # 1 is the very first value, 2 comes after that, 10000 comes after that, and -10000 comes after that. |
| 20:35.49 | [Liquidor] | How can -2 > -10000 > 10000 be true? |
| 20:36.01 | [Liquidor] | or < even |
| 20:36.06 | Awaa | Our tanks do more dmg using shield slam then with an offhand |
| 20:36.20 | NightHawkTheSane | [Liquidor]: er, what's not to get? |
| 20:36.33 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: there's a split in the middle, basically, inf and -inf are equal |
| 20:36.42 | [Liquidor] | Okay :) |
| 20:36.46 | ckknight | and -1 and 1 are opposites |
| 20:36.47 | snurre | well, if it's on a scale that loops from positive to negative at a point after 10000 and 0 is omitted |
| 20:36.52 | ckknight | 1 being the top, -1 being the bottom |
| 20:37.10 | Pkekyo | Awaa: he's poorly geared...95% blue |
| 20:37.13 | ckknight | it loops at inf |
| 20:37.21 | Pkekyo | whilst I'm 80% epic |
| 20:37.34 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47274 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: |
| 20:37.34 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 20:37.34 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
| 20:37.34 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.41 | ckknight | alright, time to head out |
| 20:37.44 | [Liquidor] | -10000 comes before that, and 10000 comes before that. = 10000 comes after that, and -10000 comes after that. |
| 20:37.47 | ckknight | cash some checks et al |
| 20:37.56 | cladhaire | Jaxon: I may have broken some things, but here: http://ace.pastey.net/72632 |
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| 20:38.15 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: it goes 1 => 10 => 100 => 1000 => -1000 => -100 => -10 => -1 |
| 20:38.23 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: those variables make me sad |
| 20:39.05 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, okay that confused me. Why not just -X => +X ? |
| 20:39.31 | ckknight | because it loops at infinity, negatives represent the bottom, positives represent the top |
| 20:39.31 | Pkekyo | jesus titty fucking christ |
| 20:39.39 | Pkekyo | when he's NEEDED to tank adds, he equips dps gear |
| 20:39.46 | ckknight | Pkekyo: but Jesus was chaste... |
| 20:39.57 | [Liquidor] | Jesus was black and born in July |
| 20:39.58 | Pkekyo | chaste? |
| 20:40.02 | snurre | 1 > 2 > 10000 > X > -X > -10000 > -2 > -1 |
| 20:40.06 | Pkekyo | jesus was a twat |
| 20:40.14 | snurre | err, opposite |
| 20:40.38 | Pkekyo | he had all these imba powers, if you're to believe the scripture, and the only remotely cool thing he did with them was making a little wine... what a twat |
| 20:40.48 | ckknight | he rez'd |
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| 20:41.00 | [Liquidor] | so do warlocks |
| 20:41.07 | Pkekyo | spiritresser...cheating! |
| 20:41.29 | Pkekyo | if he somehow got jumper cables to work on himself, THEN I'd be impressed |
| 20:41.44 | [Liquidor] | ckknight know of any addons converted to Joker from Ace, so I can see a difference? |
| 20:41.57 | CIA-14 | 03ulic * r47275 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua: LittleWigs: HF\Omar - Last Aura fix I hope :) |
| 20:42.05 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: CowTip |
| 20:42.09 | [Liquidor] | I know there's a difference in the API (read the page), just curious to know how much it effects the current Ace addons |
| 20:42.18 | cladhaire | Jaxon: line 266 is the following line encoded "if (UnitFactionGroup("player")=="Alliance") then return end" |
| 20:42.25 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: check the CowTip branch |
| 20:43.02 | Jaxon | cladhaire: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SmartQueue I decided not to bother and I'll be posting that link on the mod's discussion comments, I think. |
| 20:43.19 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: all in all, it acts the same for the user |
| 20:43.25 | ckknight | except for the config bit |
| 20:43.28 | cladhaire | aaw, i was having fun :P |
| 20:43.31 | cladhaire | i even prettied it up for you |
| 20:43.46 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, ye. |
| 20:43.47 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: you have to access it through /cow |
| 20:44.02 | [Liquidor] | Joker v? |
| 20:44.33 | [Liquidor] | I mean, do addons embed with Joker use their own slashes now? |
| 20:44.53 | ckknight | I'll make a generic /joker slash command as well as a minimap button later |
| 20:45.12 | ckknight | but /cow opens the config menu to the CowTip section specifically |
| 20:45.15 | ckknight | it works a lot like Niagara |
| 20:45.27 | [Liquidor] | Ok |
| 20:45.47 | [Liquidor] | Did you ever get to experiment with your circular menu? |
| 20:45.54 | [Liquidor] | For whatever it was meant to be. |
| 20:46.03 | ckknight | ugh, it was too complex |
| 20:46.16 | ckknight | for something I wasn't too interested in |
| 20:47.09 | Jaxon | cladhaire: you had done about the same I had done before someone linked me SmartQueue in here, but thanks :D |
| 20:47.22 | cladhaire | sed ftw |
| 20:47.24 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, am I looking at the wrong folder or am I missing something? I find an embeds.xml file listing ace libs :S |
| 20:47.37 | ckknight | oh yea, I haven't fixed that |
| 20:47.40 | ckknight | just ignore it |
| 20:49.31 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, AddChatCommand - I assume this is one of the new features? |
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| 20:50.23 | ckknight | well, it's similar to AceConsole's :RegisterChatCommand |
| 20:54.31 | ckknight | simplified, though |
| 20:54.33 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Joker * r47276 10CowTip/CowTip/ (embeds.xml libs/): CowTip - fix embeds.xml and externals for libs |
| 20:54.36 | ckknight | and arguments moved around a bit |
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| 20:56.42 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, is there a perfomance difference between Ace and Joker? Memory? |
| 20:56.56 | ckknight | yes. |
| 20:57.44 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:57.59 | ckknight | Joker's quite a bit more optimized, both for CPU and memory |
| 20:58.08 | ckknight | better algorithms, mostly |
| 20:58.27 | Funkeh` | Can be made better really |
| 20:58.47 | ckknight | what can be? |
| 20:58.54 | Funkeh` | Joker |
| 20:59.30 | ckknight | example? |
| 20:59.39 | ckknight | (note: I'm not being dickish, I want to actually know) |
| 20:59.43 | Funkeh` | I like the ace2 refacto myself |
| 21:00.07 | [Liquidor] | Uhm |
| 21:00.30 | [Liquidor] | If Joker is an improvement of Ace then how can Joker be "made better" because of your likings? |
| 21:00.50 | ckknight | I'm not sure what you're saying could be better |
| 21:01.01 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, Does JokerConfig have any GUI or do you expect Waterfall to be converted too? |
| 21:01.08 | ckknight | it is the gui |
| 21:01.15 | [Liquidor] | Hoped so :) |
| 21:01.16 | ckknight | it's quite well fleshed-out |
| 21:01.22 | ckknight | feel free to try it out |
| 21:01.26 | Funkeh` | ckknight: have you checked the code? |
| 21:01.27 | [Liquidor] | Prolly as ugly-looking as Waterfall |
| 21:01.27 | ckknight | I think you'll be pleasantly surprised |
| 21:01.32 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather tabar |
| 21:01.34 | ckknight | Funkeh`: yea |
| 21:01.37 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Tabar, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/53/0). 9423 HP; 7049 Armour; 1445 AP; 174.9 Melee DPS; 20.97% melee crit; 151 melee hit; 37 defense; 7.59% dodge; 5.6% block; 3 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1125 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23grv7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ka7lq ]] |
| 21:01.42 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, if it's close to Waterfall I won't like it :-/ |
| 21:01.45 | Funkeh` | Why don't you think its better? |
| 21:01.54 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: why's that? |
| 21:02.08 | ckknight | Funkeh`: well, I think the refactored version is better than the non-refactored version |
| 21:02.14 | ckknight | I just think that Joker is better than that as well |
| 21:02.19 | ckknight | since the API itself is a lot saner |
| 21:02.28 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, I don't know. Waterfall never impressed me, but tbh I'm more of a default ui user (by design). |
| 21:02.37 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: *shrug* |
| 21:02.43 | [Liquidor] | ckknight *shrug* |
| 21:03.19 | [Liquidor] | I don't have any SVN software on atm so'll have to copy&paste the Joker:CowTip version. |
| 21:03.26 | ckknight | won't work |
| 21:03.29 | ckknight | get SVN. |
| 21:03.36 | charon | Antiarc: ping |
| 21:03.55 | [Liquidor] | Not my laptop. I'm locked on this laptop :-/ |
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| 21:04.23 | ckknight | alright, then it won't work properly, I can guarantee that |
| 21:04.38 | [Liquidor] | :) |
| 21:04.43 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, viewsvn or something would be nice to have on wowace. |
| 21:04.53 | [Liquidor] | Why do you insert CowTip into _G ? |
| 21:05.03 | [Liquidor] | (curious, not questioning) |
| 21:05.15 | ckknight | it's so people can access it through _G.CowTip, basically |
| 21:05.21 | ckknight | sometimes people do addon checks that way |
| 21:05.28 | [Liquidor] | Okay |
| 21:05.28 | ckknight | if CowTip then ... end |
| 21:05.32 | ckknight | or if FuBar then ... end |
| 21:05.46 | [Liquidor] | Here's my ... big question then.... why localize line 3 then? |
| 21:06.02 | ckknight | which is line 3? |
| 21:06.16 | [Liquidor] | local CowTip = Joker:New.... |
| 21:06.19 | ckknight | oh |
| 21:06.25 | [Liquidor] | line 4: _G.CowTip = CowTip |
| 21:06.31 | ckknight | it's because if I access it, it'll be faster in the local file. |
| 21:06.49 | ckknight | all about speed ;-) |
| 21:06.53 | [Liquidor] | I know |
| 21:07.10 | ckknight | alright, I'm heading out, but I'll be back soon |
| 21:07.13 | [Liquidor] | But ehm, what's wrong without "local" in this case since you want it global anyway? |
| 21:07.23 | [Liquidor] | with no* |
| 21:07.24 | ckknight | nothing, except it won't be as fast |
| 21:07.41 | [Liquidor] | Oh well, I'm not that deep into Lua tho. Cya later |
| 21:14.08 | CIA-14 | 03speeddymon * r47277 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua: |
| 21:14.08 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 21:14.08 | CIA-14 | - Fix missing 'end' error |
| 21:17.00 | Mecdemort | I'm trying to make a simple tablet with http://ace.pastey.net/72636 however after closing and opening the frame reappears completely blank. Any ideas? |
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| 21:26.10 | Citan | need help with Xraid Status & Bigbrother |
| 21:26.36 | Citan | or rather first want to know chat commands for both addons |
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| 21:27.58 | [Ammo] | citan: /xrs and /bb |
| 21:28.06 | [Ammo] | would be my first guess |
| 21:28.17 | Citan | hmm |
| 21:28.36 | Citan | both saying the usual stuff "type 'help' for blablabla |
| 21:28.43 | Citan | and im 100% sure those addons are enabled |
| 21:28.57 | Citan | also Cartographer are not working for me anymore |
| 21:29.06 | Citan | after i updated addons with the wowace updater |
| 21:29.26 | [Ammo] | well bigbrother = /bb for sure |
| 21:29.37 | Citan | hmm |
| 21:29.48 | Citan | what wrong stuff ive done then? |
| 21:29.59 | Citan | or what can i do to make it work properly |
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| 21:31.36 | Hjalte | Citan, have you tried using deucecommander? |
| 21:31.55 | Citan | hmm nope |
| 21:32.25 | Citan | ehm lol |
| 21:32.33 | Citan | now i installed the xraid from curse site |
| 21:32.44 | Citan | overwriting the one from the wowace updater |
| 21:32.47 | Citan | and now it works |
| 21:34.36 | ulic | sometimes you can get drycoded stuff from the updater, but I usuaslly just disable that addon until the big is fixed. |
| 21:35.14 | Citan | oki |
| 21:35.17 | Citan | hmm' |
| 21:35.25 | Citan | anyone have a link to the Bigbrother addon then? |
| 21:35.32 | Citan | cant find it on curse site |
| 21:36.07 | sica | Citan: why don't you just download a working revision from wowace.com? |
| 21:36.07 | ulic | if you go to files.wowace.com you can find older version than the updater pushes out, might try just one revision back. |
| 21:36.24 | Citan | okey gonna test that out :) |
| 21:37.48 | ulic | also if you run something like buggrabber and then post the bug on the appropriate forum, you might get someone to fix it. |
| 21:39.08 | Kemayo | Mecdemort: Tablet has weird problems with being closed. I've never bothered to spend the time working out how to get around them, though. |
| 21:40.00 | Kemayo | Mecdemort: Your choices are: bugging ckknight to work out the problem and fix it, or registering the tablet with "hideWhenEmpty" and using a conditional in your children function to fake closing the tablet. |
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| 21:40.12 | Herio | anyone know the felguard DS buff's name? |
| 21:40.48 | Mecdemort | ah that must be what Nargiddley was commenting about in his code |
| 21:41.01 | kebinusan | http://www.shutupandpull.com/files/drew_anopenlettertosubway_197.gif heh |
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| 21:42.22 | Mecdemort | ah well, i'll use his ugly hack for now |
| 21:42.38 | Kemayo | Mecdemort: It was my ugly hack originally. I spread it to others. :D |
| 21:42.50 | Mecdemort | ah, then i shall give you due credit |
| 21:43.08 | Kemayo | Credit in the form of "kemayo should be shot for this", I trust. |
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| 21:46.08 | Citan | got bigbrother to work now |
| 21:46.27 | Citan | and ye didnt see it first on the list sica |
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| 21:46.33 | Citan | but found it and it works =) |
| 21:46.41 | Citan | so thnx for the help |
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| 22:04.56 | sb | kebinusan: haha :p |
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| 22:20.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:21.36 | Nargiddley | hey |
| 22:21.44 | Chompers | hey ckk |
| 22:22.25 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 22:24.50 | Chompers | new episode of burn notice + mad men tonight ckk |
| 22:25.15 | ckknight | looking forward to it |
| 22:25.20 | ckknight | they're both good shows |
| 22:25.40 | ckknight | okay, I think I'm gonna add contracts to Joker now |
| 22:25.49 | ckknight | seeing as kergoth never got back to me |
| 22:25.54 | ckknight | I'll just go with my gut |
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| 22:26.33 | krka | joker? |
| 22:26.35 | krka | contracts? |
| 22:27.30 | ckknight | krka: Joker's my new addon framework (http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Joker) - I'm contemplating adding design by contract (DBC) capabilities to it |
| 22:27.38 | krka | yay! more frameworks :) |
| 22:27.46 | ckknight | would you like to see the contract code? |
| 22:27.55 | ckknight | it's not WoW-specific, just lua |
| 22:28.25 | ckknight | krka: http://pastebin.com/d260dffb2 |
| 22:29.26 | Chompers | i dont get it :S |
| 22:30.30 | ckknight | it allows you to add preconditions and postconditions to methods |
| 22:30.40 | ckknight | I'll make it so that they can be enabled/disabled at whim |
| 22:30.52 | Chompers | jut googled it, should've done that first |
| 22:30.58 | krka | i'd prefer assert instead of if then, combined with error |
| 22:31.20 | ckknight | thus making it so that developers will have them all on as they're coding, preventing any major bugs, catching the bugs early. But also making it so users don't have to run, keeping things fast |
| 22:31.28 | ckknight | krka: why's that? |
| 22:31.52 | krka | more readable, and more clear what it does :) |
| 22:32.01 | ckknight | slower :-P |
| 22:32.24 | krka | hm... true |
| 22:32.33 | krka | it would need to create the string regardless |
| 22:32.38 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:32.42 | ckknight | and also a function call |
| 22:32.52 | ckknight | but the string creation is the big thing |
| 22:36.56 | CIA-14 | 03thexod * r47278 10ItemValue/ (Class_Group.lua ItemValue.lua): |
| 22:36.56 | CIA-14 | ItemValue: |
| 22:36.56 | CIA-14 | - Added ability to customize the order of the tooltip text |
| 22:36.56 | CIA-14 | - Small optimization to the "Group" Set |
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| 22:37.41 | Chompers | i guess you'll be porting all your addons over to Joker eventually? |
| 22:38.28 | TNZe | lol |
| 22:38.35 | TNZe | retard horde paladins using seal of blood on prince. |
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| 22:39.04 | ckknight | Chompers: that's the general idea |
| 22:39.29 | ckknight | Joker's not finalized yet, like at all |
| 22:39.37 | ckknight | I'll likely be changing things as I port my addons |
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| 22:40.44 | ckknight | for the better, I hope |
| 22:46.53 | Chompers | sounds like a huge task to undertake |
| 22:47.24 | ckknight | not really |
| 22:47.29 | ckknight | porting doesn't take very long |
| 22:47.53 | ckknight | especially once the kinks have been ironed out |
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| 22:50.06 | krka | i dont really get the whole contract stuff |
| 22:50.25 | krka | does the framework automatically call the precond / postcond stuff for each method? |
| 22:50.42 | ckknight | well, it would hook the real methods if contracts are applied to them |
| 22:50.49 | ckknight | so essentially, yes |
| 22:51.34 | krka | hm i see |
| 22:51.46 | krka | i usually just put assert statements in my functions where needed |
| 22:51.52 | krka | beginning for pre, at the end for post |
| 22:51.57 | BankZ | Are they not releasing the source for WAU anymore? Or am I blind? |
| 22:52.20 | ckknight | krka: yea, that's what most people do. |
| 22:52.32 | ckknight | krka: the advantage to this system is that they can be easily turned off if you're not a developer |
| 22:52.37 | krka | right |
| 22:52.50 | krka | just define myassert = function() end :) |
| 22:52.57 | krka | or myassert = assert |
| 22:54.01 | ckknight | still a function call |
| 22:54.16 | ckknight | and the way that this is done, you'd be able turn em on/off in-game |
| 22:54.17 | krka | sure |
| 22:54.18 | ckknight | not in the code |
| 22:54.42 | krka | doesn't seem worth it to preoptimize it |
| 22:54.44 | krka | but whatever |
| 22:55.10 | ckknight | seeing as argCheck is run in a normal Ace2 environment about 100 times a frame, I'd say it's worth it |
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| 23:00.00 | dockler | ckknight you there |
| 23:00.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:00.08 | ckknight | I was just talking. |
| 23:00.14 | ckknight | feel free to scroll up a line |
| 23:00.20 | CIA-14 | 03thexod * r47279 10ItemValue/BestItems.lua: |
| 23:00.21 | CIA-14 | ItemValue: |
| 23:00.21 | CIA-14 | - Fixed BestItems not scanning for any set |
| 23:01.46 | dockler | ok |
| 23:01.49 | dockler | maybe you can help me |
| 23:01.53 | ckknight | k? |
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| 23:02.18 | dockler | ok |
| 23:03.13 | ckknight | ~asktoask |
| 23:03.14 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 23:03.46 | dockler | yesterday I downloaded an addon package called All Deuce UI (Ace2). I did what it said, copied my fonts, interface, wtf folder and setup my wtf folder to my account name and everything. And when I started the game my font and everything, including the login screen, the fonts and text looked like this |
| 23:03.49 | dockler | http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6596/wowscrnshot082307154227re9.jpg |
| 23:04.19 | dockler | and before I installed that addon package, my fonts and everything looked like this http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8135/wowscrnshot082307040211fe3.jpg |
| 23:04.59 | dockler | thats the way I like it, and I allready uninstalled the addon package, I copied back the backup folders I made and my font and text and stuff still looks all small and crap |
| 23:05.14 | Ra1d3n | you can have both |
| 23:05.35 | Ra1d3n | i can guess what happened |
| 23:05.42 | Ra1d3n | there is a fonts folder |
| 23:05.50 | Ra1d3n | which you did not back up nor delete |
| 23:05.56 | Ra1d3n | check for it |
| 23:06.06 | dockler | I didnt backup the fonts folder, i didnt think i had to |
| 23:06.26 | ckknight | dockler: get ClearFont2 |
| 23:06.28 | Ra1d3n | depending on your fonts changing style, you may have had to |
| 23:06.48 | dockler | all i did was copy the fonts folder in the package, to the fonts folder in my wow directory |
| 23:07.05 | dockler | and all i want now, is for my fonts and text to look like they did before i installed the package |
| 23:07.06 | Ra1d3n | did you have to override fonts already there? |
| 23:07.11 | Ra1d3n | if not, just delete it |
| 23:07.23 | Ra1d3n | and ckknight knows what he's talking about |
| 23:07.27 | dockler | i dont remember if i had to override fonts allready there |
| 23:07.36 | Ra1d3n | so just delete the fonts folder |
| 23:08.19 | Ra1d3n | you should consider getting clearfont2 for your font changing needs |
| 23:08.42 | dockler | i just deleted the fonts folder |
| 23:08.48 | dockler | it still looks just like the wow text |
| 23:08.55 | ckknight | stop. right now. |
| 23:08.57 | dockler | i want it to be like i had it before, where it looked all big and bold |
| 23:08.58 | ckknight | get ClearFont2 |
| 23:09.04 | ckknight | if you don't do this, I won't respond. |
| 23:09.06 | Ra1d3n | dockler: get clearfont2 and select your desider font in the menu |
| 23:09.17 | dockler | where can i get ClearFont2 ckknight |
| 23:09.29 | Ra1d3n | http://files.wowace.com |
| 23:09.30 | ckknight | get wowaceupdater |
| 23:09.33 | dockler | i have it |
| 23:09.34 | ckknight | for from there |
| 23:09.53 | dockler | i have wow ace updater |
| 23:10.04 | Ra1d3n | you can get it from it |
| 23:10.15 | dockler | should i update it first? |
| 23:10.19 | dockler | it says theres an update available |
| 23:10.40 | Ra1d3n | when did you update it ? |
| 23:10.53 | Ra1d3n | last time |
| 23:11.03 | dockler | i installed it a while ago, right now I'm using WowWaceUpdater 1.8 |
| 23:12.05 | Ra1d3n | may be wise to get the new version |
| 23:12.10 | Stan__ | http://www.wowace.com/wau/Install_WAU.zip |
| 23:12.11 | Ra1d3n | i have 1.9.4x |
| 23:12.17 | dockler | ckknight do I install just ClearFont2, cause I also see ClearFont2_FontPack |
| 23:12.25 | ckknight | do what you feel like |
| 23:12.35 | Ra1d3n | if you need more fonts you can instell that aditionally |
| 23:12.38 | Ra1d3n | install |
| 23:12.58 | Ra1d3n | i should type slower |
| 23:13.17 | dockler | ok, its installed |
| 23:13.38 | Ra1d3n | clearfont2 ? |
| 23:14.18 | dockler | yea ClearFont2 |
| 23:14.27 | Ra1d3n | start wow |
| 23:14.35 | Ra1d3n | do aou have fubar ? |
| 23:14.37 | Ra1d3n | you |
| 23:15.07 | Ra1d3n | you should have a fubar plugin of clearfont2 |
| 23:15.12 | Ra1d3n | there you can change your font |
| 23:15.43 | Ra1d3n | you can test all the fonts out |
| 23:15.52 | Ra1d3n | the change should happen instantly |
| 23:16.11 | Ra1d3n | you can even change font size |
| 23:17.14 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, do I eat the cookie, cause I also see a cookie cutter |
| 23:17.28 | ckknight | ? |
| 23:18.15 | [Liquidor] | Just answer me ! |
| 23:18.43 | dockler | thankyou |
| 23:18.48 | dockler | that seem to have worked |
| 23:18.58 | dockler | i just have to find the font I used before I installed that other addon |
| 23:19.01 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: sure, eat it |
| 23:19.11 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, thanks |
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| 23:19.46 | Ra1d3n | dockler: i guess its insomniax font |
| 23:19.55 | Ra1d3n | sure looks like it |
| 23:19.57 | dockler | ckknight where do I install additional fonts |
| 23:20.05 | Metago- | !c eu dalaran darkfufu |
| 23:20.09 | ckknight | I'm no longer the person to ask |
| 23:20.09 | ThraeBot | Metago-: Darkfufu, Level 70 Undead Rogue (15/41/5). 7374 HP; 1094 AP; 262.2 Melee DPS; 25.97% melee crit; 128 melee hit; 20.3% dodge; 9 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1021 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28a3eh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2thcz8 ]] |
| 23:20.12 | Ra1d3n | hmm afk playing some dota |
| 23:20.33 | dockler | come on |
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| 23:20.36 | dockler | you helped me that far |
| 23:20.53 | Ra1d3n | you always talk to ckknight |
| 23:21.00 | HarveyDent | Xinhuan: Any place I can download and try out your latest version of BankItems? (the re-written one) |
| 23:21.07 | ckknight | is it at all possible that I'm busy? |
| 23:21.08 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, is cartographer the real map frame you .... do what to? |
| 23:21.12 | Xinhuan | uh |
| 23:21.13 | Xinhuan | not yet |
| 23:21.18 | HarveyDent | aw |
| 23:21.19 | Ra1d3n | haha |
| 23:21.20 | Ra1d3n | afk |
| 23:21.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: no. never. you are a monkey for our amusment! |
| 23:21.28 | Xinhuan | still changing some stuff |
| 23:21.38 | HarveyDent | Was hoping to provide some early feedback but alrght :) |
| 23:21.51 | Xinhuan | due to the way WoW fires its events |
| 23:21.56 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, well you're the author so I thought it would be prober to ask you, I got all night so I'll just get back to you later |
| 23:22.19 | Xinhuan | bankitems actually records bags (many times) more than is necessary |
| 23:22.21 | Xinhuan | trying to reduce that |
| 23:22.42 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: I have no idea what you're referring to |
| 23:23.43 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, just asking if the cartographer map frame is the real frame or a new one you create. If it's the real one, is resizing enough to make it not cover the screen (the dark area around) |
| 23:24.11 | ckknight | it is the real one, but use LookNFeel to resize it et al |
| 23:24.59 | HarveyDent | ah ok :) Well hopefully there will be a version some of the more dedicated users can get their hands on soon |
| 23:25.10 | HarveyDent | I'm really looking forward to seeing how BI has evolved, etc. |
| 23:25.17 | Xinhuan | not much really |
| 23:25.44 | Xinhuan | just want to get BI done quickly so i can finish up my ct-profiles type addon instead lol |
| 23:26.18 | [Liquidor] | Xinhuan, bag mods can easily get out of hand with scanning of bags since events are triggered quite a lot and there's almost no arguements in all those events forcing you to rescan everything over and over :) |
| 23:26.26 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 23:26.39 | Xinhuan | hence i'm rewriting my bank/bag |
| 23:26.42 | Xinhuan | mod |
| 23:26.49 | dockler | Ra1d3n do you know where I install additional fonts too |
| 23:27.13 | [Liquidor] | dockler, try in #wowi-lounge |
| 23:27.28 | Xinhuan | a user requested to add data to item tooltips - to count how many of that item exists on all their characters |
| 23:27.32 | Xinhuan | and to break that data down |
| 23:27.35 | Xinhuan | to bank/bags, etc |
| 23:28.02 | Xinhuan | i'm like wtf, that's a total waste of CPU time to scan through all the saved data on every tooltip |
| 23:28.29 | [Liquidor] | Xinhuan, you cache it |
| 23:28.36 | Xinhuan | then it doubles memory usage |
| 23:28.47 | Xinhuan | you can't win :) |
| 23:28.52 | [Liquidor] | cache the inventroy, rescan upon bag update and use the cache for tooltips |
| 23:29.05 | Xinhuan | its always memory vs speed |
| 23:29.47 | [Liquidor] | Xinhuan, just cache it. then you won't have a prob |
| 23:30.03 | HarveyDent | yeah ludwig does that |
| 23:30.09 | Xinhuan | i'm saying, caching the data will DOUBLE memory usage |
| 23:30.14 | HarveyDent | aside from when you FIRST open the addon in-game, theres hardly any hiccups |
| 23:30.14 | [Liquidor] | Think of auctioneer and its enhctooltip module |
| 23:30.19 | Nargiddley` | I cache havily for Baggins, its not that much memory |
| 23:30.27 | HarveyDent | and the mem usage is reasonable (around 5MB or so UI mem for about 18k items) |
| 23:30.30 | Xinhuan | i'll think about it |
| 23:32.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: there's nothing wrong with using memory. |
| 23:32.31 | Xinhuan | there isn't, i agree |
| 23:33.12 | NightHawkTheSane | for an environment like wow's, it's not really a memory vs speed argument, as there's no real downside to using more memory. |
| 23:33.18 | [Liquidor] | Xinhuan, there's hardly any memory usage caching your inventory for such a feature |
| 23:33.26 | Xinhuan | hence i'll think about caching it - but before i do that, i want to reduce bag updates because WoW's events is pretty dumb |
| 23:33.43 | NightHawkTheSane | at least, as long as you're being intelligent about memory usage, that is |
| 23:33.45 | Xinhuan | like it fires 2 update events for the same bag if you're moving an item |
| 23:33.49 | Xinhuan | from the same bag |
| 23:33.49 | [Liquidor] | all you need is the name and amount, 1 ring to rul... cough I mean 1 table to list them all |
| 23:34.05 | Xinhuan | and that causes 2 updates |
| 23:34.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: have you looked into bucketed events? |
| 23:34.24 | Xinhuan | yes |
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| 23:35.03 | Xinhuan | considering on how to change it |
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| 23:56.37 | CIA-14 | 03thexod * r47280 10ItemValue/ (BestItems.lua ItemValue.lua): |
| 23:56.37 | CIA-14 | ItemValue: |
| 23:56.37 | CIA-14 | - Use table recycling for the most called table using function, too |
| 23:56.37 | CIA-14 | - BestItems is now working again and outputs like tooltip text |
| 23:57.19 | kergoth | hmm, is there timers for diminishing returns yet? |
| 23:57.28 | Xinhuan | of? |
| 23:58.18 | kergoth | in general, i'm sure the code would be similar, just a matter of having one timer for each type of effect |
| 23:58.34 | ckknight | hey kergoth |
| 23:58.39 | ckknight | did you ever look at that contract stuff? |
| 23:58.52 | ckknight | it's okay if you haven't, just wanted your opinion on the idea in general |
| 23:59.16 | kergoth | i like the idea, havent gotten around to looking at the implementation |
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| 23:59.27 | ckknight | alright |
| 23:59.35 | ckknight | well, I'm kinda already adding it to Joker now :-P |
| 23:59.51 | ckknight | I've actually been playing a little in the past little while as well |
| 23:59.56 | ckknight | I'm almost 48 |
