IRC log for #wowace on 20070822

00:01.41ckknightkergoth: do you have any thoughts to the whole contract-in-lua situation?
00:01.56ckknightspecifically for the whole addon system
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00:05.58JoshBorkei hate argchecking
00:06.29ckknightJoshBorke: you and me both
00:06.30sbhmmm ckknight
00:06.35kergothJoshBorke: it's nice for debugging, you can find people who arent playing nice
00:06.36ckknightbut it's useful to catch errors early
00:06.45ckknightsb: hrm?
00:06.47kergothckknight: i'll take a look at the pastey and give it some thought when i get home
00:06.55ckknightthanks
00:07.24sbdmg w/o source (shadow word death) is displayed on other players outgoing - any idea? :p
00:08.20kergoththere's soem good articles on that contract reading list, i'll have to read some of those.  i dunno why but i love reading computing articles like those
00:08.33ckknightlol
00:09.31kergothguess its just nice to consider different viewpoints, compare and contrast
00:11.13Thezilchsb: previous -- dmg w/ source -- actor not null'd?
00:11.44ckknightwell, the general con I see with using contracts is that error messages will be different for users/devs if a contract is unfulfilled. The general pro is that users wouldn't have to run pointless contracts that should've been caught in development, including argument checking. Also, there could be some way to specifically enable contracts to be run for a non-released addon (e.g. always run, even if the user hasn't enabled it), making it so
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00:28.19KarlThePaganOH LAWD SOME1 GOT BUSTED - http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/1134167478.htm
00:31.28ckknighthehe
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00:36.10KarlThePaganafter all the bullshit we've seen (legendaries that only dropped for a friend of a dev)... it's good that there are finally some limits finally
00:37.13KarlThePagan(Talisman of Binding Shard if you missed that)
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00:58.41Nandiniyay i finally got it! i can rotate my texture arbitrarily!
01:00.11Nandininow if only i could get it to clip to its parent frame :/
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01:00.25ckknightoh, I've dealt with this
01:00.37ckknightNandini: Blizzard refuses to change the bleeding effect, so you know
01:00.57Nandiniyes i'm trying to think how i can mask it without doing yet another transform
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01:03.47ckknightwhat're you rotating?
01:03.58ckknightI've tried rotating Blizzard minimap textures (for Cartographer_InstanceMaps)
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01:04.17ckknightif you rotate anything besides a multiple of 90ยบ, it bleeds
01:04.29ckknightand I don't think you can mask...
01:04.36ckknightif you can, I'd like to get your results :-)
01:05.04Nandinii know somehow bliz implements masking, for example, with the character portrait and with the minimap mask
01:05.26ckknightyea
01:05.34ckknightbut not in the general case
01:05.54Nandinitrue, but perhaps i can determine how they do that and mimic it
01:06.14Nandinii could call my texture a portrait and replace the portraits texture with my own texture
01:06.16ckknightwell, check the widget API
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01:06.44Nandinijust need to see if i can actually set the portraits mask, or if it can only use the default circle mask
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01:12.31Nandinihmm is the texture used in a "frame" frame's backdrop accessible for SetTexCoord?
01:14.47Funkeh`later
01:15.04JoshBorkeNandini: don't think so, no
01:16.28Nandiniyeah all i can get out of it is the texture file
01:16.40Nandinino way to get to the texture itself
01:17.11kergothhmm, simpleminimap's capture mover doesnt seem to work :(
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01:17.32Nandiniit got fixed in a recent update and worked for me recently
01:17.43Nandiniwell recent = a week or so ago
01:18.14CIA-1403mecdemort * r47159 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Removed dependance on Abacus.
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01:19.08kergothhmm
01:20.43JoshBorkehmm
01:22.05Nandiniwell my rotate texture conforms to the original constraints of SetHeight and SetWidth on the texture
01:22.39Nandiniwhich is why i had originally made it a semicircle occupying the top half of a square texture, with the bottom half transparent
01:23.16Nandinii guess i could change my gauge to a speedometer needle
01:24.25Nandiniand display my health like a gas gauge
01:25.42Nandiniit's too bad i can't do a second transform on my texture and chop off the bottom half
01:26.04CryectNandini: look at my clip routine
01:26.13Nandiniin graph?
01:26.15Cryectno
01:26.19Cryectin Replay
01:26.24Nandinik
01:26.40Cryectif you want to see how to do axis aligned rectangular texture clipping
01:26.52Nandinithat's exactly what i need to do :)
01:27.21Nandinican i do it on a texture that's already been transformed?
01:27.39Cryectyeah
01:27.46Cryectit clips it based on the current texture coordinates
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01:32.43Nandiniouch, no want more matrix math!!!
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01:39.37ckknighthey all
01:39.39ckknighthow's everyone doing?
01:40.55ulicjust as well as the last time you dc'd :)
01:40.58Chompershey ckk
01:41.13ckknightulic: battery ran out
01:41.14ckknightback home now
01:42.10ulicI wish I had more of a gift for programming, you're getting my excited with Joker :)
01:42.27ckknightwell, it's made so newbies can use it as well
01:42.30ulic*me
01:43.10Chompers"do i pushed the butan?" newbies?
01:43.34ckknightno, you misspelled "teh"
01:43.40Chompersif so, maybe its time i started making addons
01:43.41Chompershahah
01:43.53ulicI'm not that green, but I definetly don't have the insight to plan ahead, and to be very efficient.
01:44.06Chompersi also forgot to put 'lol' at the start and end of the line
01:44.10Chompersand in the middle
01:44.23ckknightlol like parentheses lol
01:44.44Chomperslol lol, lol
01:44.50Nandiniyay! ty Cryect, it works almost perfectly!!!
01:44.54Chomperslol lol, waffles, lol
01:45.16ckknightomg toaster
01:45.36Chompersi have a character called toaster!
01:45.52Chomperswhat a waste of a month that was
01:46.07ulicis he/she a cylon?
01:46.30Chompers...perhaps
01:46.31Chompersyou big nerd
01:46.56Mecdemortckknight: If fubar creates a dewdrop menu that I also want to have available via slash command, should i try to access the menu fubar creates or just make my own?
01:47.00ulicI prefer bread-fanatic.
01:47.55ckknightuse the same options table
01:48.44Nandinithere is so much math involved in doing these texture transforms, i'm afraid my gauge will not be an effective replacement for statusbars
01:49.00ckknightgauge?
01:49.11ckknightlike a circular dealy?
01:49.15Nandiniyup
01:49.41Nandiniyou just take a semicircle that's in the top half of an otherwise transparent square, rotate it, then clip it to a rectangle
01:50.37Mecdemortckknight: ok, how would i go about accessing the menu it creates?
01:50.48ckknightit doesn't create a menu, you supply it
01:50.50Nandiniwell, you do all that with cryects help :)
01:51.05ChompersThere have been 18 Neos, 133 Xanders, 273 Trinitys and 158 Willows born in Victoria since 1980, according to the Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages.
01:51.07ChompersFail.
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01:51.42ckknightXander's not a horrible name
01:51.50ckknightmy grandma's maiden name was Zander...
01:52.03Nandini273 Trinities? And not one stinking Unity, Singularity, or Duality?
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01:53.26Mecdemortckknight: wait, doesnt fubar create all the menus from the OnMenuRequest? i can't reuse that one?
01:53.39ckknightyes you can, and you provide it
01:53.56Nandinickknight: the nice thing about the gauge is you can make the bottom half of the texture be what you want the "background" of the gauge to look like while empty, and when you rotate it, you see the empty part too
01:54.16Mecdemorthmm i dont think i have the slightest idea how dewdrop works... off to read the docs
01:56.47sylvanaarXander -from the cartoon series Drawn Together
01:56.53Chompersi hear it uses wizardry, of the nefarious kind
01:57.29sylvanaar"Strong Xander! Strong Xander!"
01:58.08Chompershe'll rescue his girlfriend one day
01:58.13sylvanaarnah
01:58.22sylvanaarhe came out and she dumped him
01:58.30Chompersoh right?
01:58.46sylvanaarnow he has a boyfriend
01:58.54Chompersi gues that was further on in the series, i could only stand about 10 episodes of it
01:58.59sylvanaarwho was kidnapped by the same guy
01:59.42sylvanaari love it - it totally obscene
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02:04.45kergothwhy did Parrot just say [Survival Tree ready!]
02:04.53kergothi dont think my talent tree has a cooldown
02:05.18uliccool down for the treant thingy?
02:05.42sbtrap cd?
02:06.02sb-> traps ready again
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02:06.54ulicbut never fear, cuase you can just tell Parrot to eat the cracker, and not give to you :)
02:06.55kergothit didnt say traps ready
02:07.34sbbut traps are survival 'casts'?
02:07.44sbor do you also get 'traps ready' messages?
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02:12.03AmadeoI need a stealth macro that I can mash, and it won't bring me back out of stealth if I hit it during or after my stealth :P
02:12.37alb-i just put stealth on my mainactionbar
02:12.56Amadeodoesn't it unstealth you if you keep hitting it?
02:13.08alb-not if you don't have stealth on the same place on your stealthbar
02:13.14alb-i have cheapshot there
02:13.17ulicAmadeo: I think you can put a modifier on it
02:13.25AmadeoI don't know macros at all
02:13.42uliccheck wowwiki, they have lots of great examples for all classes.
02:13.46Amadeokk
02:14.35ulicbut I don't know why you'd need to 'mash' your stealth button :)
02:15.00Amadeoit's nice in PvP when you're lagging or don't know when combat will drop, so you can get back in stealth and hit them
02:15.42ulicsuppose that's resonable, I don't PvP much
02:16.08Amadeonice, wowwiki had a simple one
02:16.15Amadeo/cast [stance:0] Stealth
02:16.21AmadeoI found some others that were long as hell
02:16.38ulicwowwiki is sweet for stuff like that
02:16.54uliclots of great macros
02:17.51Amadeoyeah, I should visit it more :)
02:18.05ulicI do all the time for macros & instance information.
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02:24.57Nandinihmm my gauge can draw itself 20000 times in 0.41 seconds
02:26.37JoshBorkewhy would you draw more than once per frame?
02:27.08Nandiniit wouldn't, i'm just trying to compare it to the efficiency of using a statusbar
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02:29.36Mecdemortis there any tutorial for using dewdrop, i cant make heads or tails of it
02:30.01ckknightyou're looking at it wrong, then
02:30.48Nandiniyou should be able to feed it the same options table you give to fubar
02:31.16ArrowmasterAmadeo: i use /cast [nostealth] Stealth on my rogue i think
02:31.31Nandinithat's what i use on my druid too Arrowmaster
02:31.44Arrowmasterbut i guess /cast [stance:0] Stealth is better for nelfs
02:31.44Nandiniexcept it's /cast [nostealth] Prowl
02:32.23Nandinior /cast [nostance] Stealth
02:32.38ulicyea all those should probably work fine
02:32.54Arrowmastersomething like that since [stealth] applies to shadowmeld too
02:33.05CryectNandini: You figure out the clipping?
02:33.22Nandiniyes, please take me and use me as you will, i am your slave forever
02:33.27Cryecthaha
02:33.34Cryectyeah I assumed that function was pretty easy to use
02:34.59Nandinii just added in to the beginning of my rotate function to set height and width equal to the parent frame width first (since i am clipping a square texture to a rectangle)
02:35.18Nandinialso clear its points and set its center to the bottom of the parent frame
02:36.03Cryectyeah you have to clear points before passing it back to that function if you don't use bottomleft
02:36.17Nandiniif i don't "undo" all the clipping before i rotate again, i get a mess
02:36.29Cryecthaha yeah
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02:36.53Nandinii thought with all that math it would not be an efficient statusbar replacement, but it's actually very fast
02:36.57CryectProlly would be better to clip all the stuff before setting it in the first place but I thought this was simpler
02:37.06Cryectand it seemed reasonably fast
02:37.20kowihttp://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=3954
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02:38.22Nandiniunless you have 120 fps and are rotating more than about 500 frames each draw, it cannot be perceptably slower than a statusbar
02:38.37Cryectheh
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02:40.08Nandiniit may be useful for authors who want to add a semicircular "gauge" type of bar for unit frames
02:40.37Nandinior as a timer, or just about anything you would use a bar for
02:41.33Diaoweird
02:41.36Diaoonce i take recount off standby
02:41.39Diaoit doesn't stanbdy
02:41.41Diaoanymore
02:41.46Cryecthmmm thats uh strange
02:42.02CIA-1403ckknight 07ckknight * r47160 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua:
02:42.02CIA-14LibJokerConfig-1.0 - If any function or method returns "@dict", "@list", or
02:42.03CIA-14"@set", followed by a tuple, it will automatically turn the tuple into the
02:42.03CIA-14proper table type (a dict, list, or set), which will later be automatically
02:42.03CIA-14recycled.
02:42.03CIA-14- this hasn't been implemented for .args yet, but works for any other field.
02:42.06Cryectappears to be standby for me
02:42.09Diaowell
02:42.12Diaoit says it's in standby mode
02:42.13Cryectdoes it say standby but not?
02:42.14Diaobut it's still recording data
02:43.07Cryectstrnage don't see anyhting obviously wrong will check that out later
02:43.22CIA-1403ckknight 07ckknight * r47161 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - make the active option have an order of 1 (top).
02:44.28CIA-1403ckknight 07ckknight * r47162 10Joker/LibJokerDB-1.0/LibJokerDB-1.0.lua: LibJokerDB-1.0 - add profile options. the profile list and copy list are created on-demand (a nice upgrade from AceDB-2.0's crappy system of storing and upgrading an unsafe table).
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02:48.46ckknightthat puts the major pieces in motion, at least
02:50.18ulicI know you mentioned some about it on the wiki, but is it your intention/hope that this will become Ace3, or will just be a new system?
02:50.39ckknightyes, it is my hope
02:50.44ckknightbut that remains to be seen
02:51.32ckknightbasically, Ace2 has warts/issues/etc. Work could be done to fix it, but in order to do so, you'd need to break API a bit. It's my belief that since API's already broken, why not break it all the way and make something better from the ground up?
02:51.51art3miselvis...was a hero to most
02:51.52art3miselvis...was a hero to most
02:51.56art3misbut he never meant shit to me
02:52.00ckknightthank you for that, art3mis
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02:52.19art3misstraight out racist and plain, whaddya mean john wayn
02:52.42art3misyou're welcome ckk
02:52.52CIA-1403roartindon * r47163 10Assessment/Assessment.lua: Assessment: Change to Enumerate Sparse Data set operation
02:53.06art3misi heard your inside voice calling "god i wish someone would type some fight the powah lyrics
02:53.44ckknight...
02:55.16NightHawkTheSanei know my inner voice was saying that.
02:55.50art3mismine too
02:56.38art3misheh yeah those socks would go great with my sandles, what i look like a german?
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03:02.45TNZelol >_<
03:03.03TNZeat 2nd boss in heroic underbog "server going down in 25 minutes"
03:03.05TNZeick
03:03.15TNZeso turbo speed and downed last boss with 2 mins left
03:05.59SilowyiTNZe: once in heroic SP we were on the crab boss
03:06.19Silowyiwe were wiping
03:06.30Silowyi1%, only the warlock left alive, and about to die
03:06.32Silowyithe zone crashed
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03:06.46Silowyiwhen we all logged back in, we were all alive, the boss was dead, and we had loot on the body
03:06.53Silowyibest server crash ever
03:07.21kebinusan4chan makes me laugh sometimes: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1187751009060.png
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03:10.48TNZelol
03:10.52TNZewe had that once
03:10.59TNZekilled boss
03:11.03TNZegave out loot
03:11.05TNZeserver crash
03:11.09TNZeentire kara cleared :P
03:11.14TNZeno more mobs left
03:11.15TNZelol
03:12.03ckknightlol, kebinusan
03:13.37CIA-1403morgalm * r47165 10MorgDKP/ (LootTablet.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc):
03:13.37CIA-14MorgDKP:
03:13.37CIA-14- Autolink items above the quality threshold to raid chat on looting
03:13.52TNZemeh
03:14.09TNZethe synergy between a boomkin, ele shaman, shadowpriest and 2 mages is obscene
03:15.18Nandiniooh what is securepiebuttontemplate used for? it says it's a template for "radial menus"
03:15.52ckknightyea
03:15.58ckknightand it's horrid to code against.
03:16.00NightHawkTheSanei imagine it's used for radial menues?
03:16.14Nandiniis it even used anywhere in-game?
03:17.30Nandinii can't ever recall seeing anything i would describe as a radial menu
03:17.35art3mismaking sphere autorotate would rule
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03:26.25Nandinigrr stupid wowwiki is [[Editing]] and unavailable
03:27.10CIA-1403kemayo * r47166 10AuldLangSyne/ (12 files in 4 dirs):
03:27.10CIA-14AuldLangSyne:
03:27.10CIA-14-Info: Remove friends list coloring.
03:27.10CIA-14-FriendList: New module comprised of the above.
03:27.10CIA-14-GuildList: New module coloring the guild panel. Not 100% finished, but working.
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03:32.30Quator1aAntiar2: ping
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03:33.17kaidenHey quick question, what's the current best click casting mods?
03:34.14ulicI like clique
03:34.37kaidenah is that still being updated?
03:34.58ulicdunno that I've checked in a while, but it still works fine for me.
03:35.42ckknightI use Click2Cast :-P
03:36.05NightHawkTheSaneyes, clique is still being updated.
03:36.45cladhairesomeone even reported a bug
03:36.46cladhairethat i can fix
03:36.47cladhaireheh
03:39.36Nandinigrr... gief wowwiki
03:40.01Nandinilol of course he goes afk as soon as i say that
03:40.26ckknightdoes someone with a slow computer want to test something for me?
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03:40.53Nandinii wish i could underclock my computer just for that effect
03:41.09Nandinii have too many processors and cores to represent the average user
03:41.19ckknightlol
03:43.00Nandiniis there an alternative source for api documentation besides wowwiki?
03:43.08ckknightno, not really
03:43.28ckknightbasically, I want to test that if I make the garbage collector very aggressive OOC if it slows down old computers too much
03:45.00ckknightit doesn't slow me down at all, but my comp is pretty good
03:45.20cladhairethat's not the best way to go about things.
03:45.26ckknightit's just a test
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03:45.53cladhairewhich i've run a number of times.. it has an affect on FPS
03:46.03cladhairethe affect is varied depending on the level of the machine, and in particular the amount of ram
03:46.14FryGuy-why does every 4chan link i click go to 404 :(
03:46.22cladhairea too aggressive multplier keeps the GC value way too tight.. you can't just set the same value for everyone and expect it to work correctly
03:46.27cladhaireI'm working on a better solution,.
03:46.39Garoun|Loupanagod I wish they'd just push the afk portion of 2.2 out as a small patch
03:46.59cladhaireGaroun|Loupana: indeed, =/ i want to enjoy av again
03:47.22Garoun|LoupanaOn moonrunner on avg alliance has 15-20 afkers EVERY game
03:47.23ckknightcladhaire: oh? which solution is this?
03:47.41Garoun|LoupanaI plan to report every one of them when 2.2 goes live
03:47.50ckknightcause, imho, I think a contextless system, which WoW uses, isn't the best situation, as different things occur in different contexts
03:47.52cladhairetwofold, one working with slouken to set a more aggressive multiplier, somethign i fought for last time we tuned.
03:47.55cladhaireonly now he's going to listen
03:48.09ckknightwell, you have my support
03:48.29ckknighthow aggressive?
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03:49.07cladhairei'm working on an algorithm that will help determine that
03:49.53cladhairethis all dates back to my post on the UI forums, in December, unfortunately
03:50.41cladhairegetting the pause value changed was victory enough at that point, however :p
03:52.44cladhaireApoligies for reacting quickly, but I remembered back to the last "test" you ran regarding this, and don't think repeating that is in anyone's best interest.  I have no reason to suspect that you would do that again, so again, apologies.
03:53.05cladhaires/Apoligies/Apologies/
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03:54.53ckknightalright
03:55.11ckknight...I had said "my bad". I thought that was enough
03:55.13ckknight:-P
03:55.36cladhaireI think we can find a better solution with slouken :P
03:56.15ckknightmeh, slouken seems to ignore my requests, regardless of their validity
03:56.21ckknightit's more annoying now than anything
03:56.30cladhairewell, he's not the UI programmer
03:56.45cladhairehe does what he does in his spare time, and anything has to go to the designers before it can be programmed.
03:57.01cladhairei'm hoping the ui lead starts reading/participating more.
03:57.09ckknightwho is the UI lead?
03:57.27cladhaireone of the other developers
03:57.48cladhairei dont think he really ever intends to have the level of public focus that slouken does
04:00.24cladhairefwiw, i don't think slouken ignores your requests :P
04:13.24Silowyitbh the AV "solution" depending on how its implemented could only have minimal effect, the most likely result being we go back to 2 hour AV queues.
04:14.02SilowyiBattleground voting was a suggestion I put up on the forums a year ago though, its the best thing I could come up with.
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04:14.19Silowyibut I don't think its the end all of solutions, just a step in the right direction
04:16.51SilowyiOk, I really like tablet and am comfortable with using it, but I'd like to grow beyond using tooltip style UIs for everything
04:17.26SilowyiIs there a good ace-ish windowing library out there? And... am I going to need to learn how WoW does xml?
04:17.38ckknightcladhaire: he has ignored my requests on occasions
04:17.54cladhaire*shrug* okay.
04:17.58ckknightSilowyi: neither
04:18.33ckknightjust figure out how CreateFrame works
04:19.10Silowyihmm, kk, experimenting time
04:19.32Silowyigg lvl 7 draenei paladin with no non-library addons enabled!
04:20.24ckknightI use a lvl 6 priest draenei
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04:27.42ckknightkergoth: you looked at that contract stuff yet?
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04:33.15Yssarilwhat does this mean?? BugSack-2.2.0.40596\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:375: AddOn index must be in the range of 1 to 178
04:33.30Yssarilproblem with bugsack?
04:35.02art3miscontract stuff?
04:37.22ulicsomething about Joker
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04:56.53art3misoh i see
04:56.55ckknightart3mis: contractual agreements for methods
04:57.10art3misi saw contract and immediately thought some sorta legal thing
04:57.19art3misnot code related ;P
04:57.28art3mislike "service contract"
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05:14.06NightHawkTheSaneany druids around?
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05:15.55art3misit should be a rule that moonkin can only exist at night
05:16.04Gngskgenius
05:16.06art3misand its an automatic transformation you have no control over
05:16.14Gngsklike a worgen
05:16.20art3misexactly
05:16.26NightHawkTheSanein the same vein, should nelfs only be able to shadowmeld at night?  :P
05:16.31art3misNight of the Freaking Boomkin!
05:16.52art3misthey should be able to meld if they're shadow... not say oh i dunno the middle of the abrrens
05:16.57art3misthere's
05:17.15NightHawkTheSanein wc3, nelfs only shadowmelded at night, i believe. ;)
05:17.15art3misnot without thier kitty umbrellla that is
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05:34.03kergothis prowl used in pve at all, or just pvp? training my new cat pet
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05:35.03CIA-14YssGuildShop:
05:35.03CIA-14- using AceDB now
05:35.03CIA-14- Fubar support should be working much better now
05:35.03CIA-14- Filtering your share works now
05:43.58NightHawkTheSanekergoth: no real point in pve, really
05:44.14kergothhmm
05:44.25Yssarilckknight: did you have a look at the slider/editbox thing?
05:44.25Silowyitbh the only real use for it in pve or pvp is to eyes of the beast and spy with it
05:44.34Silowyibut I don't think you can make your pet go through the gate anymore
05:44.49ckknightYssaril: yea, I saw the issue you talked about, it's definitely an issue
05:44.56ckknightI'll likely be moving the editbox to the right of the slider
05:44.57kergothso growl, bite, claw, dash the best bet there?
05:45.07Yssarilcool man
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05:45.46NightHawkTheSanekergoth: for a cat, yees
05:45.50kergothkk
05:45.57kergothits my first cat.. 70 and i've never had one before
05:45.58kergothheh
05:46.46art3mishey ckk
05:46.52art3miscan fubar be anchored and lock anywhere?
05:46.58art3mislocked
05:46.59ckknightyea
05:47.03art3misooo
05:47.14art3misbut not vertical right?
05:48.05art3misany chance i can con you into making it so that it supports vertical but automatically "icon only"'s anything on the vert bars?
05:48.36ckknightno
05:48.41art3miswhy?
05:48.45kergoththinking 3 in all resists, growl, claw, bite, avoidance 2, cobra reflexes
05:48.47ckknighttoo little ROI
05:49.02art3misroi == reason or interest?
05:49.50art3miswhat about making it scroll all the time like a ticker tape and have a mouse over stop it mouse wheel move it left and right and at the mouse you get a view finder like a slide rule?
05:49.53Fisker-http://steamcommunity.com/id/jason <-noes they be stealing mah bucket?
05:50.27art3misthats the drama squirrel dumbie ;P
05:50.29NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: return on investment. jesus how do people notknow that acronym
05:50.30kergothroi = return on investment
05:50.33kergothheh
05:50.43art3misnever used it
05:50.52art3misor come to think of it heard it used around me
05:51.04art3misbut mine is much more fitting for ckk ;)
05:52.08art3miswow
05:52.13art3mislunesta tastse HORRIBLE
05:52.17art3mistastes
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06:04.14kergothCryect, i dont see dps in the graph window anywhere..
06:04.18kebinusanSo nice after getting vashj to phase 3 last week to spend 2.5 hours wiping on hydross this week
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06:10.36RaydenUnido any mods use a lot of cpu power?
06:10.52RaydenUnii'm getting fewer fps than usual and i'm wondering if it is a specific mod
06:11.04RaydenUnior perhaps its my whole collection
06:11.10art3mischange yer zoom?
06:12.11Wobinkergoth: the cat only going to be used pve?
06:12.15Wobinand instances/raiding?
06:13.01Wobinalso, do you have GoForTheThroat
06:13.18art3misit's eyes, not throat ;P
06:13.43WobinThe talent
06:13.47Wobinnot the Minsc
06:13.48vithosDon't pew pew 'till you see the whites of their eyes?
06:14.32Wobinif you're finding that the cat is spending too much time with full focus with GftT, then use bite and claw
06:14.38Wobinotherwise just use claw
06:14.53vithosisn't bite more dmg/focus?
06:14.55Wobinand if you're using it in instances a lot, consider getting cower as well
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06:16.01Wobinnah
06:16.04vithoswhy cower?
06:16.13Wobinto give the tank all the aggro he can get
06:16.15YssarilCowTip??? whats that?
06:16.22ckknighttooltip addon
06:16.28Yssarilahhh
06:16.39vithoscower doesn't give the tank threat
06:16.46Wobinno it reduces the cats
06:16.58kergothWobin, bm atm, with gfft and bestial discipline
06:16.59vithosif the cat is pulling aggro, something's wrong
06:17.00Wobinmakes it easier for the tank to pick up aggro
06:17.33WobinNeither you nor the cat should be getting aggro
06:17.35Brunersif your pet is grabbing aggro off the tank something is clearly wrong
06:17.40Wobinbut with BM dps, it can be hard =)
06:17.44Wobinso FD a lot
06:17.48Wobinand use cower
06:17.57Wobinalthough it's more useful with a ravager pet with gore
06:18.05Wobinwhich can deal a hell of a lot of dps
06:18.15Wobinand you -want- the ravager to never ever get aggro
06:18.16vithosi've never used cower, and my pet has never pulled aggro off a tank with growl disabled
06:18.21Wobincause it'll be oneshotted =P
06:18.49vithosonly time it's even come close is on voidreaver due to the deaggro/tank rotation
06:18.50Brunersis there any statements that poison will be nerfed in the next patch?
06:18.54Brunersposion from scorpids
06:19.02Wobinthey say it'll 'change'
06:19.08Wobinno idea on what the precise changes are
06:20.27WobinMostly for instances, mind you, but cower means you can send the pet to attack just about anything, and not have to worry about it taking damage at any point
06:20.36abugpeople are saying they nerfed the coefficient it got from attack power but left the bug
06:21.00WobinSo it's a lesser coefficient, but still sticks to the first application?
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06:21.21vithosthat sucks.  i'd rather have the opposite
06:21.41vithos"bug" fixed, coeffecient left
06:21.42NightHawkTheSanelowering the coefficiant is easier to implement
06:21.53Brunersim guessing no more 700 ticks
06:21.53Wobinwithout having to rewrite the stacking code =)
06:21.58NightHawkTheSaneand it's arguable that it's not a "bug" at all
06:22.24vithosthat's why i quoted it.  it's not really a bug, according to various dot class players i've talked to
06:22.44vithosbut sigh, just one more thing to think about to maximize dps
06:22.57vithosi need to finish leveling my wind serpent
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06:24.37vithosi wish they'd hurry up and get this patch out, so us hunters could start theorycrafting all the nerfs.  what sucks is i spent an entire day in spreadsheets evaluating all that haste gear right before i found out about the rating change
06:24.41Dynomnow thats a pretty sight
06:25.55Brunershaste doesnt affect steady shot does it ?
06:26.03vithosyes
06:26.19vithosit affects steady and auto
06:26.20kebinusanI was playing around with this thing the other day, it doesnt have modules for anything but casters really, but still its kinda neathttp://wiki.shadowpriest.com/index.php?title=SimulationCraft
06:27.22vithoskebinusan: heh yeah, i was looking at that, wishing there was a hunter one
06:29.35Brunersvithos: your BM ?
06:29.40vithosyes
06:29.50Brunersvithos: how often do you fire arcane ?
06:29.59vithosonly while running
06:32.18Grumvithos: as long as you are not close to the 1.55s autoshot the haste rating doesn't matter all that much .. or does it? :)
06:32.38vithosthere's a 0.5 second delay after a special firing before autoshot fires
06:32.59vithosso even though the GCD isn't scaled, and steady is already at the GCD, it still speeds up the rotation because of that delay
06:33.31Grumvithos: so you say the autoshot rotation can not be below 2.0s if you are doing steadyshot/autoshot only?
06:33.40Arrowmasterif ignites dont roll anymore then the scopion poison using the AP from the first app for all is a bug
06:34.23Arrowmastersince afaik ignites are the only other dot that stacks
06:34.23vithoswell, there's also serpent's swiftness and quiver haste which is static
06:34.37vithosor actually, is that only autoshot?  i'd have to check
06:34.52Grumi think only auto
06:34.59Arrowmasterquiver haste effects aimed shot
06:35.07Grumhell no :)
06:35.11vithoseither way, i've managed to get my autoshot down to 0.7 seconds before through bad timing on a haste pot
06:35.14Arrowmasteri know i tested that a long time ago on my hunter
06:35.22Grumlol
06:36.23Grumhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29143 does not make the aimedshot '6s' into '5.1s' as far as i know :)
06:36.42Grumit does however affect the autoshot cooldown
06:36.45vithosit's 3.5 seconds, isn't it?
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06:36.50vithosnot that i have it on my bar.
06:37.08Grumhumz 6s i though .. let me see
06:37.16Grumem yes
06:37.34vithoswelcome to patch Before the Storm ;)
06:37.35Grum3s .. but that doesnt make it 2.55s cast
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06:37.40Brunershave you tested http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28579 ?
06:38.14vithosnope, i don't have it
06:38.25Arrowmasterwell back before the builtin aimedshot castbar i know i tested a few different aimed shot castbar mods and quiver haste seemed to effect them
06:38.29vithosDragonspine Trophy and Bloodlust Brooch still
06:38.52Brunersim wondering if its wort spending time in kara for it
06:39.07vithosi dunno, but aimed shot is not in any hunter rotation anymore
06:39.14GrumArrowmaster: afaik it never goes below 3s unless you have +haste rating items
06:39.17vithosi'm checking if steadyshot is affected by quiver or serpents swiftness
06:39.32Grumvithos: it should not be
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06:39.54Arrowmasterwell i only got my first hunter up to like lvl 36
06:39.55Brunersi used to pop aimed when i used my haste trinket
06:40.54GrumApply Aura: Haste - Ranged (Ammo Only) Value: 15 versus: Apply Aura: Mod Rating (393216) Value: 325
06:41.11vithosit appears that it is
06:41.20Grumit should not be
06:41.24vithosand by that i mean, it appears that steadyshot is affected by quiver or serpents swiftness
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06:41.53vithoscheeky's spreadsheet is showing start time: 0.50   stop time: 1.58  for steadyshot without DST proc and without iAotH
06:41.59Arrowmasteri think the (Ammo Only) means if you have an ammo pouch equiped but your using a bow it doesnt effect it
06:42.22Grumthat makes no sense, then with SS and quiver you would have 0.8*0.85*1.5 = 1.02s steadshots which is complete bs :)
06:42.59Grumunless you have 'haste rating' your SS cast-time will not go down afaik
06:43.04vithosthat sounds about right to me
06:43.05Arrowmasterremember they expect all hunters to always use quivers, test the cast time without one equiped and see if its actually higher than 1.5
06:43.31Grumit's not .. even naked it's 1.5s :)
06:43.33vithosnot all quivers have the same haste, the base cast time is 1.5
06:44.00vithosand there's no way cheeky's spreadsheet would be wrong about something so basic
06:44.02Grumonly 'haste rating' will affect cast-times
06:44.05Grumlol
06:44.08Grumbet it is :)
06:44.29Grumthere is no way quartz can be lying to me
06:44.32Arrowmasteronce your lvl 55 or so i think they probably expect you to have a 15% quiver
06:44.39Grumnot really
06:44.44vithossigh, let me login and enable quartz
06:45.36Grumthe game knows exactly how long a cast will take - quartz simply displays that time - it is *always* 1.5s unless you have haste-rating changing
06:45.48Brunersis it possible to make quartz allways show the border around the playerbar ?
06:46.45GrumRapidfire: Apply Aura: Haste - Ranged - Value: 40
06:47.15GrumDragonspine trophy: Apply Aura: Mod Rating (393216) - Value: 325
06:47.27Arrowmasterwith my old lowbie hunter i had aimed shot before 2.x and even though it said 3sec cast time i and i used a few different aimed shot casting bar mods, it always seemed more like 3.5 and watching the animations it always went off later than the castbar mods
06:47.38GrumHaste potion: Apply Aura: Mod Rating (393216) - Value: 400
06:47.46JaxonArrowmaster: the old mods didn't include latency.
06:47.53Grumyup
06:47.54Arrowmasteri know
06:48.13Arrowmasterand ive got perty low latency
06:48.26JaxonAnd the old Aimed Shot tooltip said "Adds three seconds to cast time
06:48.27Jaxon"
06:48.28Grumbut seriously - every 'steadyshot-cast-time-reducing-proc/item' is connected with haste-rating/modifiers
06:48.33Grumyup indeed Jaxon
06:48.40GrumArrowmaster: slow pc also causes lag
06:49.40JaxonAnyways, I started reading in the middle, what was the initial discussion?
06:49.53abugjanet jackson
06:49.54Arrowmasterso do rapidfire and iaoth effect steadyshot/aimedshot?
06:50.00JaxonArrowmaster: yes.
06:50.16vithosGrum: my steadyshot starts at 1.1 according to Quartz.
06:50.34Arrowmastervithos: try unequiping quiver
06:50.43vithoseasier said than done
06:50.48Grumnah
06:50.53vithoslolbagspace
06:50.53Grumyou can just put ammo in your normal pack
06:50.59Grumfind a mailbox ;D
06:51.00Grummail an alt :P
06:51.12Brunersany new big quivers comming ?
06:51.16Grumno
06:51.55JaxonNope, you'll run out of ammo in a full Karazhan clear and LIKE IT.  And have to travel back to Grom'gal because that is the closet arrow vendor for horde.
06:51.57vithosthere was a blue post al ong time ago saying they're going to do something about how fast we burn through arrows, since 18 slots is not enough for one raid
06:52.32Fisker-Anyone know if spellsurge is possible to track in regards to proc?
06:52.47vithoswithout the quiver equipped, it's 1.2
06:52.52Fisker-I mean if i can see if it's me or someone else that triggered it
06:52.58vithosand actually, i think it was 1.0 with it equipped, not 1.1
06:53.02GrumFisker-: innercooldown of 1 minute from what i've read
06:53.07Fisker-i know Grum
06:53.17Brunersi usually have 5k arrows with me to a raid
06:53.25vithosso yes, quiver and serpents swiftness scale steadyshot
06:53.29Grumvithos: so now the question is - what is causing the haste-rating
06:53.38vithos^
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06:53.53Brunersand 5k arrows is about what you need for a raid
06:53.55Grumthat is so twisted O.o
06:54.08FryGuy-http://digg.com/videos/educational/Advanced_Photo_Resizing_Vid
06:54.49abugif you just picked an herb it's probably your spellsurge
06:57.47Neeblerthe haste nerf is reganomics
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06:58.35vithosthe haste nerf is LOL U GOT EXCITED ABOUT ITEMS
06:59.20GrumFryGuy-: omg that is indeed *very* cool :P
06:59.26FryGuy-so simple too
06:59.29FryGuy-i mean, the algorithm
06:59.33Grumyeah
06:59.48Grumexpecially the 'removing' and 'adding' is spectacular to see :)
07:00.05FryGuy-the 'erasing' was what was amazing to me
07:00.11Grumyeah
07:00.20Grum'i dont want that buy on the picture' ... done! :D
07:00.26Grum*guy
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07:01.33Grumit's a nice toy for when you break up with your bf/gf ;)
07:01.46Grum'fixing' all of your holiday picture O.o
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07:16.12Wobinhm, our guild has started using Mumble for communication
07:16.15Wobinit's quite good
07:16.24Gruminstead of VT/TS?
07:17.38ramozhow much BW does a VT/TS use when 25 ppl are in at the same time? :O
07:18.36Wobinyeah
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07:18.47Wobinit's the first one that appears to work without any issue crossplatform
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07:22.03ArrowmasterWobin: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Games does that actually work?
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07:22.55WobinThe overlay?
07:23.01Yssarilgnight guys
07:23.02Wobinoh directional
07:23.10WobinI don't know, I've never actually tried it
07:24.25SaisHow easy would it be to add a new hook to change (add functionality to) a single line in someone else's dewdrop menu - without modifying their code?
07:24.55SaisIt feels like it ought to be possible...but I can't quite see how to go about it.
07:25.40Ominousjust edit the table of options
07:26.02Ominousaddon.options.args.group.args..... etc
07:26.39SaisWill have a dig. Ta.
07:26.49Arrowmasterunless its a real dewdrop menu and not an aceoptions table
07:27.06SaisIt's dynamically created, by the looks of things
07:27.18Sais(I assume that's what you mean)
07:27.43WobinArrowmaster: but I've found mumble to be incredibly clear
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07:27.59Wobinit appears to have very good noise cancelling algorithms
07:28.00SaisWobin: That sounds tautological!
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07:28.20WobinI don't think you mean that word in the way it means =)
07:28.34Arrowmasterthe ASIO noise cancelling looks cool
07:28.39RaydenUnicyclistdestromath just go down?
07:29.18SaisWobin: Probably not. I couldn't think of the term "oxymoron" until just now.
07:29.36SaisBut I wouldn't want to call you oxymoronic, now...
07:29.53WobinA tautology is 'always true' =)
07:30.30ckknightlol, FryGuy-, that was neat
07:30.32SaisI think I originally learnt it as meaning "self-contradictory"...and that's stuck.
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07:31.38Arrowmasterwow this mumble looks to have a ton of configuration optins
07:31.53Wobinyeah =) and it works out of the box for me
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07:31.56Wobinwhich is amazing =P
07:33.07Arrowmasterdoes it do volume normalization?
07:33.20Wobinhowso?
07:33.30WobinI don't think it does individual volume settings, though
07:34.08RaydenUnicyclistsucks when you crit SWD for 2700 and pull aggro from the boss
07:35.47Arrowmasterwell in vent some people tend to have their outbound high and others low, when we guild merged it seemed that everybody from my previous guild all had ours configured to have around the same volume and so did the guild we merged with but they were all much much louder than we were
07:35.49Fisker-can it be raeps tiem now Wobin?
07:37.13Arrowmasterand it sucks turning speaker volume up so i can hear somebody that was a little low and having some asshole saying stupid shit extremely loud afterwards
07:37.39WobinI thought vent allowed you to specify a volume for each player?
07:37.49Wobingranted, it's fiddly to do it with everyone
07:37.52Wobinbut the option was there
07:37.55Arrowmasteryeah
07:38.19Arrowmasterthats what i do, but the volume adjustments suck
07:38.35Arrowmasteri have to turn people up to 200% just to get a slight increase
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07:48.09JaxonOkay, so I'm looking at Cheeky's Spreadsheet and "upgrading" from Steelhawk Crossbow to Merciless Gladiator's Crossbow of the Phoenix is a very, very slight DPS drop, wtf.
07:48.59Grumdoesnt it severly depends on specs ? :)
07:49.13Grumwhat's the url for the speadsheet btw?
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07:50.06JaxonGrum: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t9816-hunter_spreadsheets_development/
07:50.33Grumlets see how badly openoffice will choke on that bastard ;D
07:51.13JaxonBad, I think.
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07:52.29ennuilgVontre's new mage spreadsheet, erm, doesn't work too well on OO. either... :-(
07:54.52Grumhehe bad indeed
07:55.20Grummanually-killing-was-needed-because-pc-started-to-beep-so-loud-coworkers-were-staring-at-me O.o
07:55.38JaxonYeah, its pretty heavy.
07:56.08Grumhumz my brain hurts - i need an effective way to do 'line square' intersections
07:56.23Grumi can think of many ineffective ways .. but there always seem to be room for 'improvement' :D
07:58.59mitch0grum: do 4xline-line intersections? :)
07:59.11Grumyup that is the ineffective way =D
08:00.08mitch0nah, the ineffecitve way is plotting the square then plotting the line and see if you plot on a place already plotted on by the square :)
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08:00.33Grumhow are those 2 solutions different? ;D
08:00.58mitch0erm, the first one could be solved by 4 equations
08:01.12mitch0actually, 3
08:01.15mitch0at most
08:01.20Grumhmm 3? :)
08:01.32mitch0you won't usually have a line intersect a square on all its edges
08:01.39mitch0or you live in some strange geometry
08:02.05Grumwell in max 2 :)
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08:02.12Grumso if you know *which 2* .. ;D
08:02.22mitch0that's why it's at most 3 :)
08:02.25abbat_w!c eu warsong immoralist
08:02.30ThraeBotabbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/5/56). 10073 HP; 8591 Mana; 125 mana regen; 128 spell crit; 41 spell hit; 848 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; 494 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 709 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ytd85 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bavfk ]]
08:02.50mitch0actually, there is a corner case when the line fits on one of the edges. then you might need to check 4 times
08:02.53abbat_wheh, updated!
08:03.09Dynomabbat_w: russian ?
08:03.11Grumnot really .. i think
08:03.18abbat_wDynom, yes
08:03.37DynomI left Russong because of the 'new inhabitabs'
08:03.42Dynomover a year ago
08:04.05abbat_wHmm.. it was always 'russian' server, not?
08:04.15mitch0did 2.2 go live?
08:04.20Dynomwhy would a server located in europe be russian
08:04.24Dynombut no, it wasn't
08:04.24abbat_wnope, mitch0
08:04.39[Ammo]all those 'it's my countries' server supporters should be shot in the face
08:04.39ennuilgLarge Russian population, rather than "Russian server".
08:04.44abbat_wDynom, why eu servers are finnish or swedish?
08:04.59Dynombut the fun kinda left when you got booted from a party just because you didn't speak russian
08:05.02abbat_wIf exists swe/fin/not servers, why not russian?
08:05.28ggilbertabbat_w: I'd guess lack of demand
08:05.31Dynomofficially there are english, french and german servers
08:05.42abbat_wDynom, how many russian ppl got booted from a party just because they didn't speak english?
08:05.45Dynombecause there are french, german and english clients
08:05.48Grumpeople should get shot for not speaking english on an english realm
08:05.57[Ammo]I'm glad Kazzak EU is normal
08:06.02abbat_wDynom, oficially Blizzard don't restrict languages in /1, /2 etc
08:06.04[Ammo]and everyone not speaking english gets a boot in the face there
08:06.07ennuilgSpanish too Dynom.
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08:06.22Dynomennuilg: they do now? officially? or just spanish spoken on servers
08:06.32Grum[Ammo]: the worst are the dutchies
08:06.35Grumreally .. *cry*
08:06.51abbat_wAmmo ;)
08:06.57[Ammo]I tend to ignore the dutch on /1 /2
08:07.01abbat_wenglish is not 'world' language ;)
08:07.02[Ammo]all they say is stupid shit anyway
08:07.09[Ammo]it is in WoW
08:07.13abbat_wnope
08:07.13Dynomabbat_w: what language is ?
08:07.16[Ammo]live with it or gtfo my realm
08:07.27abbat_wBlizzard don't restrict any language
08:07.27Dynomabbat_w: read the server note, it says english spoken
08:07.32abbat_wAnd?
08:07.32Grumthey should
08:07.38DynomI know, but they did say it's prefered to talk english
08:07.39BrunersEnglish is the world language on english servers eod
08:07.46Grumpeople should get banned really hard for picking stupid names and using non-english on public channels
08:07.54abbat_wDynom, show me where Blizzard say 'if server marked as english ppl should speak at english'
08:08.10Grumshow me where it says: please speak non-english :)
08:08.12Dynomabbat_w: I didn't say that, read what I wrote
08:08.18Grumeventhough the realm is dubbed english ;)
08:08.23abbat_wSo, why you cry? :)
08:08.36abbat_wTry to live on dutch server or spanish or finnish
08:08.56abbat_wTry to understand something like 'perkelle kuppalla' ;)
08:09.07Grumtry to kill them
08:09.10Grumoh .. :p
08:09.17abbat_w;)
08:09.18Dynomabbat_w: where do you see me saying that I aprove that?
08:09.25Grumbtw Omnibus > *
08:09.26abbat_wdon't have a shotgun ;)
08:09.46abbat_wDynom, reality is most ppl from Warsong just don't know english
08:09.51abbat_wIt's just a russian kids
08:09.58DynomI know, hence the reason I left it
08:10.00ennuilg@Dynom - don't think my IRC client is working properly for PMs... Yes, there are Spanish servers, a spanish client and spanish forums on wow-europe.com now.
08:10.11Dynomennuilg: I didn't pm you
08:10.22Dynomennuilg: an ok, didn't knew that
08:10.23ennuilgThat'll explain something then!
08:10.28Grumlocalized clients also make me cry :)
08:10.32Dynomtbh they should do it for russians also
08:10.35Grumreally why in the world would you want that? O.o
08:10.42abbat_wDynom nope ;)
08:10.54abbat_wI always play in english client and like english notations
08:10.55Dynomabbat_w: if people don't speak russian.. how do they quest?
08:11.00ennuilgWell, I'm Spanish and I play on an English server, but I can understand why some of my compatriots would wish to play in their own language.
08:11.05abbat_wEven if i use russian language in /1 or /2
08:11.10Grumennuilg: well why? :)
08:11.10Dynomabbat_w: is there a website translating it all ?
08:11.21WobinThat hunter spreadsheet is ... epic
08:11.23abbat_wHmm.. don't know
08:11.29Grumwobin: in size it is indeed :D
08:11.31ennuilgBecause not everyone speaks English well enough for it not to affect their enjoyment of the game.
08:11.41abbat_wcompatriots ;)
08:11.44abbat_wnice term ;)
08:11.56abbat_wennuilg, what mean 'compatriot'?
08:12.00Dynomabbat_w: I kinda think it was weird, people can quest but not awnser the question: 'where are we going' 'You got kicked out of the party'
08:12.01ennuilgCountrymen.
08:12.14abbat_wAhha ;)
08:12.21abbat_wcompatriot ;) nice ;)
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08:12.39GrumDynom: you had to pay for your char transfer? :)
08:12.50DynomGrum: luckely, no :-]
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08:12.58DynomWarsong had a >300 queue arond 20
08:12.59Dynom:00
08:13.03abbat_wDynom, i see this not only from russian ppl. I play on anchimonde @ us. Same was there. English ppl kick non-english spoken ppl from party
08:13.04Dynomso it had free transfers
08:13.24Grumabbat_w: why would you want someone in your party who can not speak english?
08:13.38Dynomin my experiance people don't get kicked because their native language isn't english, but because they can't communicate in english
08:13.42Grumthe likely also dont understand english and will be a total retard ingame :p
08:13.44abbat_wWhy wold russian ppl want someone who don't speak russian?
08:13.46abbat_wIt's ok ;)
08:13.52ggilbertabbat_w: they wouldn't
08:13.58Dynomabbat_w: it kinda sucks to say: tank that, and your tank replying: que?
08:14.04ggilbertunless they speak a common language
08:14.12abbat_wje parle francais un peut ;)
08:14.16ennuilgTBH, it tends to be _how_ it's done, rather than the fact it's done at all.
08:14.18Dynomabbat_w: exectemunto
08:14.50abbat_wall ppl want to spoke on native language
08:14.58[Ammo]no
08:14.59Dynomnot true
08:15.05[Ammo]I don't ever want to speak dutch in WoW
08:15.08abbat_wWhy swedish ppl should speak on english if they want to speak on swedish?
08:15.29DynomI play an MMO because I like to play with other people from other countries, not because I want to play with my fellow country members
08:15.30abbat_wIt's ok. Same for all other languages/countries
08:15.44Aens|Superioritybecause it is a terrible feeling to wipe because someone in the party didn't understand instructions
08:15.49abbat_wDynom, same for me. But not all ppl play for the same
08:16.01DynomI just came back from Norway, met a friend there in WoW and went to visit, I love it. New culture and enviroment, brings flavors to ones life imo.
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08:16.16Dynomabbat_w: I know, but imo those shouldn't play a world MMO
08:16.29Dynomabbat_w: or at least not obstruct it
08:16.50Dynomso I blame blizzard for not making specified servers for that, not the people that can't speak the language
08:16.52abbat_wI think we should understand what not all ppl speak english. And it's ok
08:17.43Dynomofcourse, and that is no problem at all. But if people don't understand eachother they don't work well together, and thats quite a crucial part in MMO's...
08:19.02abbat_wanyway i like to play with international ppl an xrealms bgs ;)
08:19.12Grumpeople speaking their native tongue in mmos are nationalistic pigs! =D
08:19.20abbat_wi don't like if someone told something like 'hey, l2speak english' ;)
08:19.30Grum(except when it's english ofc .. then they are just pigs)
08:19.51abbat_wOh yeah. I don't like nazism, niggers and jews
08:19.51DynomGrum: you are the 'making friends' kinda person aren't you.
08:20.02abbat_w=)
08:20.13Dynomthat better be a joke
08:20.37ennuilgI think the second line shows it was said with tongue in cheek...
08:20.57abbat_waahhha ;)
08:21.09GrumDynom: tact isn't my middle name :P
08:21.09Dynomthats spanish for 'lol' or. ?
08:21.12abbat_wHeh, guys. Visit India ;)
08:21.16DynomGrum: you don't say... :D
08:21.32abbat_w400 km and no one understand idish dialect which was perfect understanded before ;)
08:21.39Grumbut just deny it .. it is so true! ;D
08:21.46abbat_w400 km to other side and again no one understand you ;)
08:22.10Dynomsame in my country, only thats because 400km and you passed the border
08:22.20abbat_wWhere you live?
08:22.23Dynomholland
08:22.46abbat_whuh
08:23.01abbat_wSpecific dialects?
08:24.01[Ammo]oh there are
08:24.08[Ammo]there's fries (the major dialect)
08:24.13Dynomnoooooo
08:24.15[Ammo]and there's twents!
08:24.17Dynomread what I wrote
08:24.23Dynom400km means you are over the border
08:24.26[Ammo]yeah
08:24.33[Ammo]but abbaat asked for dialects :)
08:24.35Dynommeaning you swim with the fishies, or have to speak german or french
08:24.43Dynomor dansk
08:24.47Dynombut thats more like 600km
08:25.03abbat_wI have friend from India
08:25.18abbat_wHe told me what in India about 100 different dialects
08:25.33Dynomno suprise there
08:25.39Dynomdoesn't china has the most btw?
08:25.44abbat_wAnd ppl didn't understand ;)
08:25.53abbat_wMaybe China has the most btw
08:26.27abbat_wDon't know about this. But anyway, it's a real problem ;) Much harder then someone don't understand another ppl in WoW ;)
08:26.48Dynomyeh, I don't get it why people like it tbh
08:28.47pb_ee1Morning
08:29.09abbat_wmorning ;)
08:29.18Dynomhowdy
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08:32.18RaydenUnicycliststupid alliance
08:32.31RaydenUnicyclistit's very annoying that you can be indefinately sapped inside a neutral city
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08:32.56ennuilgBlizz really need to make sap a hostile action...
08:33.00Dynomyeh, those alliance. Bastards! every single one of them!
08:33.07[dRaCo]don't play on pvp servers ^^
08:33.36Dynombtw, on pve servers, is it possible to raid with both factions?
08:33.43ennuilgNope.
08:33.44DynomI've never played on one
08:34.03Dynomkinda figured, would be quite imba
08:34.12[dRaCo]it's like pvp, but without the pvp
08:34.19[dRaCo]if you know, what I mean
08:34.26Dynomwell and you can talk with eachother right ?
08:34.30[dRaCo]no
08:34.30ennuilgNope.
08:34.32Fisker-a wild Fisker- appears
08:34.35Fisker-what are you going to do?
08:34.40Dynomyou can't?
08:34.41Dynomthat sucks
08:34.42[dRaCo]shoot him!
08:34.49Dynomwas thar rp servers then?
08:34.52Dynomthat*
08:34.52RaydenUnicyclistit is the same as pvp
08:34.57Dynomhm
08:35.01RaydenUnicyclistyou just can't attack the other side unless they are flagged
08:35.08RaydenUnicyclistor they are in your side's zone?
08:35.14RaydenUnicyclistlike alliance in durotar?
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08:35.19ennuilgOn PvE, you can have characters in both factions, so you can log an alt and talk, but you can't talk directly across factions.
08:35.26[dRaCo]rp is the same as pvp, but without the pvp and the totally stupid names.
08:35.29Dynomennuilg: ahhhh right, that was it
08:36.25Diaoisn't rp the same as pve
08:36.27Diao>.>
08:36.56Dynomwell at elast they require you to be dworf in real life as well if you play dworf char
08:37.04ennuilglol
08:37.37[dRaCo]rp has a stricter naming policy
08:37.41[dRaCo]that's about it
08:37.49Fisker-I NEED BIOSHOCK
08:38.01ennuilg!c eu bloodhoof ennui
08:38.09ThraeBotennuilg: Ennui, Level 70 Human Mage (10/48/3). 6113 HP; 8381 Mana; 165 mana regen; 4 mp5; 298 spell crit; 72 spell hit; 876 +spell dmg; 222 arcane dmg (1098); 271 fire dmg (1147); 5.26% dodge; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 702 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywrgy9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2k5j8w ]]
08:39.03ennuilgPfft... Logged out with my Riding Crop equipped.
08:39.33abbat_w!๑ eu warsong immoralist
08:39.46abbat_wlogged out with pvp gear ;)
08:40.43ennuilgPushing 1200 fire damage and then I log out with my stupid trinkets wrong. How ever am I supposed to show off if I make stupid mistakes like that!? :-)
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08:51.08Benihimecan anyone tell me how i can get more textures going in Pitbull ?
08:51.23Benihimebar textures (health,power)
08:51.39[dRaCo]install sharedmedialib
08:52.00Benihimeit has it
08:52.02evlactually that won't add _more_ textures
08:52.09evlbigwigs has a shitload e.g
08:52.12Benihimein the Pitbull directori
08:54.34Benihimeit worked i had a few textures when i was using Quartz but i replaced it now for some non-ace addon to try it out and now i have only 3 textures and they're bad looking
08:54.44Dynomhaha, http://bash.org/?795779  <-- soo true
08:54.53[dRaCo]oh, right... sharedmedialib only shares those textures
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08:55.07Grumfor Solarian - does the raid need 150 arcane resistance atm?
08:56.00[dRaCo]Benihime: if you liked quartz' textures, dl quartz and use its textures
08:56.07[Ammo]Grum: we don't
08:56.14[Ammo]we took him down first time last night
08:56.18[Ammo]just zerg'd
08:56.21[Ammo]which gets changed in 2.2
08:56.31[Ammo]him => her ofcourse
08:56.39Grumwerent the bolts random from 2.1 already?
08:56.58[Ammo]the debuff gets changed
08:57.17TyaneasGoodmorning. I remember an addon which lets you create macros to eat drink use items without specifying their names but keywords. Can't remember the name. Any help ?
08:57.18Benihimewell i replaced quartz if i dw it again i'll have to use it right ?
08:57.20Grumin what way?
08:57.26[Ammo]dunno
08:57.47Grumhumz so in 2.2 you need 150 AR?
08:58.02[Ammo]Benihime: download the SharedMedia addon
08:58.06[Ammo]it contains 20+ textures
08:58.09[Ammo]to choose from
08:58.14[Ammo]Grum: no idea
08:58.18[Ammo]right now you 'need' 0
08:58.25Grumhumz k
08:58.35Grumjust on the tanks?
08:58.36evlGrum: Zerg just requires a LOT of DPS.
08:58.46[Ammo]not even on tanks
08:58.53evlGrum: no ar at all, you can put some AR on the very low level hp raiders, the ones below 9.5k
08:59.01Grumhumz
08:59.11evlGrum: just make sure you have enough dps :P
08:59.12[Ammo]just zerg an make sure you get below 70% on first adds, below 40% on second and 20% before third
08:59.17Benihime10x ammo
08:59.35Grumhow much raid-dps would that take? :P
08:59.45evleveryone going all out with flasks, pots and food
08:59.52Grumis that fight a simple tank and spank fight orso ? O.o
08:59.58[Ammo]no it's more like aran
09:00.00[Ammo]can't tank her
09:00.02[Ammo]so all out from start
09:00.04evlshe does the arcane missiles
09:00.13evlshe's very weak to melee
09:00.23evlso obviously 4 good geared rogues will get you a long way
09:00.26evland dps warriors are <3 there
09:00.37[Ammo]we brought 7 AoE as well
09:00.40[Ammo]4 mages 3 locks
09:00.48[Ammo]3 rogues
09:01.06Grumyou can just walk there like to VR right?
09:01.15[Ammo]yeah with soem trash
09:01.15evlyeah, trash is easy
09:01.19evlcompared to VR trash imho
09:01.34[Ammo]it's kinda harder due to mind control
09:01.35[Ammo]but shrug
09:01.39[Ammo]it's easy all in all
09:02.02evlnothing is worse than those fucking frag grenades + sawblades
09:02.03Arrowmasterwe tried the zerg strat on solarian, i hated it and next time were doing the double AR soaker tank strat
09:02.25evlArrowmaster: we tried the AR tanking for a night and took her down with zerg on second attempt.
09:02.41[Ammo]evl: that's because we have people with a lack of brain
09:02.46[Ammo]that can only do one job
09:02.48Arrowmasterour raid went boom with zerg strat
09:02.50evlyeah
09:02.52[Ammo]so if we adjust the strat for that :)
09:02.56evltactics that require less brain = good :P
09:03.11[Ammo]bunch up on her for zerg srat
09:03.21Arrowmastertactics that dont allow you to get 1shot from random arcane missles = good
09:03.21[Ammo]-> no need to move raid when priests come
09:03.40evlArrowmaster: problem is you'll run out of AR by the 6th wave
09:03.54Grumhow do you mean evl?
09:04.04Arrowmasterim not talking about the 150AR strat
09:04.06evlShe applies a -15 AR buff every "round"
09:04.11Arrowmastertalking about the 500 AR strat
09:04.25[Ammo]the one with 2 AR tanks bouncing the debuff
09:04.29Arrowmasteryeah
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09:04.34evlOh yeah we tried that
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09:04.35[Ammo]we tried that, but if one idiot doesn't move -> boom
09:04.48[Ammo]anyway, this is our 35% -> 0% from last night: http://thomas-k.net/wow/stuff/lol.avi
09:04.52Solegood evening (morning)
09:05.01Grumi just read: Wrath of the Astromancer: Debuff that does 600 damage every 2 seconds for 10 seconds. This also places another debuff that increases arcane damage done to you by 50% for 45 seconds. Will jump to nearest friendly target. (Pets and totems are able to take this debuff)
09:05.02SoleHI THOMAS K
09:05.18Soleooh
09:05.19ArrowmasterGrum: thats wrong, doesnt goto totems anymore
09:05.24Arrowmasteri tested
09:05.26Grumdoes that mean that when you 'group up' you most likely get an instant death when she arcane bolts someone? :p
09:05.29Solethats like the hakkar debuff
09:05.33[Ammo]Grum: not really
09:05.33evlsnake traps work? :P
09:05.44SoleWho remembers the days of the ZG plague?
09:06.02[Ammo]just dps harder before it becomes a problem
09:06.02Grumwell it will be 15k dmg then in 1 hits
09:06.02Sole< started it on blackrock aww yeah aww yeah
09:06.02Grumerm 3 hits
09:06.02[Ammo]iit becomes a problem if you don't get her to 20% before 3rd add wave
09:06.02ArrowmasterGrum: when you group up it means everybodys probably going to have the +50% debuff on them
09:06.04Soleguess nobody remembers it :(
09:06.07evl[Ammo]: I think the zerg tactic will work better as we get better gear tbh
09:06.13[Ammo]evl: indeed
09:06.19GrumArrowmaster: thus 1 AR bolt will hit for 5k
09:06.20evl[Ammo]:  one more round in SSC will bring upgrades to a lot of people
09:06.25Arrowmaster6k
09:06.31evl[Ammo]: Forgot to get arena points so I can't respec swords :D
09:06.35Grum3.5*1.5 = 5.25 ;)
09:06.38Arrowmasterer
09:06.50[Ammo]it's not a problem if you get her to 20% before 3rd adds
09:06.54[Ammo]you might lose a few
09:06.56[Ammo]we lost a few :)
09:07.00evlif you get to 20% it's a kill
09:07.00Arrowmasterwait not its 3k i think because i remember it hitting for 6k at +100%
09:07.01evlpretty much
09:07.06evlunless your tank is wearing paper helmet
09:07.17evllike KC
09:07.18evl;D
09:07.28Grumhumz so what does the debuff do?
09:07.37Grumfrom the text it only does +50% for 45s
09:07.40Arrowmaster+50% and stacks
09:07.45Grumoh ... that is one phase ofc
09:07.49evlno the raid wide debuff is -15 AR
09:07.49[Ammo]we had 4 dead at 20%
09:08.04Arrowmasterthe raid wide -15 AR debuff that stacks isnt important
09:08.11[Ammo]zerging that is
09:08.16Arrowmasterits the stacking +50% debuff that kills people
09:08.18[Ammo]with 3 seconds left to 3rd add wave
09:08.23Grumhumz isn't the fight so that you just have 6/7 healers fixing up 1 person?
09:08.31[Ammo]no
09:08.32Arrowmasterno
09:08.40[Ammo]you get your 3 pallies or something to spam flash heal assist solarian
09:08.48[Ammo]and get the rest of the healers to heal the raid
09:08.52[Ammo](if you zerg)
09:08.58evlpalas rock in that fight btw
09:08.59Grumdue to the 600dmg per 2s?
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09:09.19Arrowmasterthats 600dmg per 2s base
09:09.20[Ammo]no palas heal the arcane missiles
09:09.27[Ammo]the 600dmg can be healed by others
09:09.33[Ammo]paladins make sure the arcane missile targets live
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09:09.37Arrowmasterits not 600dmg for very long
09:10.00Grumit scales up? it's arcane dmg? :P
09:10.28Arrowmastergetting instagibed in 2seconds due to taking 4x1500 every 2s sucks
09:10.33Arrowmasteryes it scales
09:10.54Arrowmasterfrom the stacking +50% debuff that it applies
09:11.40sag_ich_nichthttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/schrodingers-jump/ that is awesome.
09:11.46Arrowmasterhench why i hate the zerg strat
09:12.24Arrowmasterhave the +50% debuff on you stacked a few times and the adds are about to come out and you have people yelling at you to get with the group so you move to the group
09:12.29Arrowmasterthen bam!
09:12.34Grumhehe
09:12.39Arrowmaster4 wrath of the astromancers jump to you
09:12.44[Ammo]zerg = you're always in the group
09:12.47Grumwhat i read the other tactic would be playing 'tag' with the tanks
09:12.47[Ammo]you don't move out of it
09:13.02Grumwhen you get the debuff - run like mad to the 2 tanks .. have it jump off .. and run away again
09:13.18Arrowmastereach doing 1500 damage and you die when it ticks again in 2seconds
09:13.59Arrowmasterwhen we did the zerg strat i stayed the fuck away from the group when trying to get the +50% debuff to wear off of me
09:14.16Arrowmasternever worked though because people with it would move towards me for some fucking reason
09:14.22Grumhow often is wrath cast?
09:14.36Arrowmasternot that often but once its cast it doesnt go away
09:14.45Grumso you toss it on the tanks right?
09:14.47Grumideally
09:15.18Arrowmasterthats only if you use the 2x AR tank strat
09:15.27Grumit doesnt sound to hard .. but then again .. people can not even kill the bloody spitfire totems in time at Karathress
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09:16.16Megalonyou will love those people, who need the whole 8 seconds
09:16.25Megalonto realize that THEY got the debuff
09:16.27Megalon:C
09:16.30Grumand have it spread :\
09:16.40Grumooooh i'll be shouting over ventrilo again
09:16.42Grumthis will be fun
09:16.45Arrowmasterive canceled my account because people cant even click boxes on mag
09:16.57Grummag is ... stupid
09:17.00Grumthe fight is random
09:17.12Grumfrom the first cubeclick it is layed out how the fight will go
09:17.19Grumif you get EQ,click .. you will have no problem
09:17.20ArrowmasterGrum: bigwigs has an annouce when she starts casting wrath and it says the target
09:17.26Megalonmost people fail on the retard-checks
09:17.27Megalon:<
09:17.31Grumif you get click,10s,eq .. you know you will wipe
09:17.35[Ammo]hence we zerg solarian
09:17.39[Ammo]because people fail at noticing the debuff
09:18.01Grumwith zerg you group up in dead-center and just KIIIIILLLL away?
09:18.05[Ammo]yeah
09:18.17[Ammo]and then when adds come you Piercing howl them seed them freeze them and seed more
09:18.26[Ammo]while rogues move to the portals for priest interrupts
09:18.29[Ammo]ad tank ofcourse
09:18.41Grumtbh if the debuff only jumps every ever 8 seconds
09:18.43[Ammo]rogue should be waiting at portal before priest spawns for heal kickage
09:18.55Grumyeah
09:18.59Grumthat will be fun
09:19.04Grumluckliy we have good rogues :P
09:19.21Grumserisouly 2 warlocks managed to completely ignore the spitfire totems last night
09:19.26Grumon *all* attempts
09:19.27Arrowmasterwe had an idea for a zerg strat that when you get the debuff you move off to one side of the group or something and then when your waiting for the +50% to wear off you move to the other side so the rest of the raid is between the people with it and the people waiting for it to wear off
09:19.41[Ammo]Arrowmaster: moving costs too much dps
09:19.43Grumhow far will it jump?
09:19.50[Ammo]just bunch up and ignore it
09:19.55Grumand if it cant jump .. then what?
09:19.58Arrowmasteralways goes to closest person
09:19.59MegalonGrum: it jumps to the nearest
09:20.03Grumhumz k
09:20.12[Ammo]and you can't outrange it
09:20.21Grumwell you can just have a fatty-AR-tank stand somewhere and catch it
09:20.27[Ammo]you need 2 grum
09:20.29Grumyeah ofc
09:20.30[Ammo]because it'll want to bounce
09:20.43Grumi wonder how fast the debuffs will stack on them
09:20.50Grumwill it leave +50 every time it jumps?
09:20.56[Ammo]yeah
09:20.56Arrowmasteryes
09:21.04Grumif so - after 16s you will have+100... and +100 after another 16s :P
09:21.26Grumso before the first 'bubye' it will be +300% :\
09:21.28Arrowmasteryeah you have to assign healers to just those tanks
09:21.39[Ammo]basically, if you use AR tanks you need to have people on the ball with the debuff
09:21.44[Ammo]if you zerg you ignore it completely
09:22.04Grumyou get 1 wrath per 'phase' ?
09:22.05Megalonbut if you learn the zerg strat now
09:22.05Arrowmasterwe dont have the dps to zerg it
09:22.09Grumper per cycle
09:22.13Megalonyou'll have to learn the other strat with the next patch
09:22.20[Ammo]depends on the change
09:22.26[Ammo]do we know the change to the debuff?
09:22.27Grumchange is rather unclear to me
09:22.34GrumPatch notes from the 2.2 ptrs:
09:22.34Grum* The spells cast by High Astromancer Solarian have been extensively reworked. Wrath of the Astromancer is a now completely different in function. Mark of the Astromancer has been renamed to Light of the Astromancer and no longer reduces Arcane resistance. A player's Arcane Resistance now also provides normal damage mitigation to Solarian's spells.
09:22.54Grumhow fast do you kill him in zerg-mode?
09:22.56Grum3 minutes?
09:23.06Grumor how fast do you get him to 20%?
09:23.13Arrowmasterour dps somehow when to good to so shitty we cant kill hydross and if we kill voidreaver its right before he enrages and by right before i mean like 3 seconds
09:23.44Grumour dps is fluctuating badly, we killed VR in 7m52 and hydross in 7m flat (perfect aoe execution .. yay for extra tank)
09:23.44evleveryone hates voidreaver :P
09:23.55Grumand we wipe all night on gruul O.o
09:24.17Arrowmasterone hydross attempt last week he was going to enrage at like 40%
09:24.28[Ammo]Grum: we got him to 20% in zerg 3 seconds before 3rd adds
09:24.50Grumso that is 50+50+47s in the fight?
09:24.53[Ammo]yeah
09:25.03GrumHealth: 3,000,000
09:25.23[Ammo]after that it's simple tank and spank with some added void bolt madness
09:25.32Grum16326.53 raiddps O.o
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09:25.57Grumis he really like 'aran' with nice low armor? :P
09:26.11Grumso hunters/rogues/warriors/ferals do dps like maaad?
09:27.25[Ammo]yes
09:27.39Grumassuming you have 3 tanks, 7 healers .. that is 15 dps .. that is ~1090dps per dps-er
09:28.02Icerothouch
09:28.14Icerothwe'll never kill that guy then :D
09:28.23Arrowmastersame
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09:29.00Arrowmasterour 10th on dmg tends to be about half of 1st
09:29.03Grumwell if hunters/rogues get the same dmgboost as they get from aran
09:29.15Icerothsomeone said solarian is going to require 100-200 AR for everyone after 2.2, is that true?
09:29.21[Ammo]he might
09:29.23Grumyeah i've heard 150 as well
09:29.24[Ammo]but that's easy
09:29.28Grum150 is a piss
09:29.30[Ammo]with the sta + AR trinket
09:29.31[Ammo]etc
09:29.35Grumyup
09:29.42Arrowmasterive got like 10ar
09:29.49[Ammo]I have 10AR without gear!
09:29.51[Ammo]gnome ftw
09:29.59[Ammo]Arrowmaster: you should have the Violet thing
09:30.05[Ammo]the 45AR 32sta trinket
09:30.05Arrowmasterbecause i dont have the inventory space to craft real ar gear
09:30.14Arrowmasteri never turned in that quest, still have it
09:30.18[Ammo]bonk
09:30.26Arrowmasterno inventory space
09:30.42Grumring/neck/trinket is already 105AR
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09:31.11Grumcloak added .. 137 :)
09:31.22Grumall craftables or quest items
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09:31.35CIA-14- 2.09
09:32.11[Ammo]this is one of the top zerg logs on WWS: http://www.wowwebstats.com/wws/?report=mq3q6l5f2twrc&s=1436-1672
09:32.54[Ammo]reason is they only took 4 minutes
09:33.21[Ammo]although they use AR tanks as well
09:33.21[Ammo]meh
09:33.24[Ammo]ohwell
09:33.26[Ammo]then I dunno
09:33.34dreamssdo u guys hapen to know if u can play the wc3 campains after u install tft?
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09:35.07cncfanaticsyo all
09:35.18cncfanaticscan someone tell me how to disable standby mode ? without slashcommands or dewdrop thingy
09:36.27GrecasiAnyone I can talk to about forum register problem, not getting activation e-mails?
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09:38.45Arrowmastercncfanatics: self:ToggleActive()
09:39.04Arrowmastercncfanatics: maybe self:ToggleActive(true)
09:42.56cncfanaticsArrowmaster, thank you
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09:51.20cncfanaticswhats better, postal or postman ?
09:54.34[Ammo]bulkmail2 and bulkmail2inbox
09:55.17cncfanaticsheh
09:55.18cncfanaticsroger
09:57.18nevcairielct_mailmod imho
09:59.41[Ammo]bulkmail2 is kinda funky with the autofilter sending
09:59.51[Ammo]1 click to send all predefined things to the correct banking alts
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10:32.24Mikkcncfanatics: postal is very nice if you just want a sane mailbox with oneclick sending. if you want filtered bulk mail n stuff, yeah, bulkmail2
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10:48.19sbKemayo: GuildList and FriendLust are not in filelist.wau & source.wau
10:48.50sbmorning ;p
10:53.01ennuilg"FriendLust"... Now that's Freudian!
10:53.25abbat_wbloodlust ;)
10:56.24Tornhoofas long as he does not name the files manlust and lust-from-behind.lua ;)
11:01.25Grumas long as you dont have a 'soap.lua' on the floor there should be no problem
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11:03.11sbis it possible to make some 'zone check' in macros?
11:03.32sbso it only gets executed if currentZone matches "crappy instance"
11:03.32sb?
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11:12.17pb_ee1sb: no i don't think s
11:12.18pb_ee1so *
11:12.26sbhm :(
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11:13.33Diaohmm
11:13.38Diaobosswhisperer isn't saving settings
11:13.46Diaoi keep telling it to hide the text/colored text on fubar
11:13.49Diaoand every reload/relog
11:13.56Diaothe text shows up again
11:14.54[Ammo]probably isn't useing AceDB
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11:35.42calvin_Anyone up at this hour?
11:36.01Punkie`it's every hour
11:36.03calvin_=)
11:36.11Punkie`for me it's 12:36pm
11:36.33[dRaCo]international channel, there's no "this" hour :)
11:36.57calvin_Im having an issue w/ omen as main tank...  i see everyones threat ok but they dont see me move ever... sometimes i show up at first then slide off or not on at all... I use pitbull/omen.. does having the 2 witht heir own threat lib have an effect?
11:37.00calvin_:)
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11:37.19calvin_Ive been trying to solve this damn prob the last 2 days, thought id try irc out
11:37.40calvin_Any thoughts etc Ill def take
11:37.49Punkie`If they are both at the current revision there should be no problem
11:37.58calvin_Not afraid to do the work, but damn I need a push in some direction here hehe
11:38.08calvin_Ya they def are, I update every day
11:38.12Diaohm
11:38.20Diaothey share a threat lib
11:38.28Diaoshouldn't
11:38.32Diaobe having any problems
11:38.33calvin_do they share one or does each have an embedde done?
11:38.36Diaoas long as they're targetting the same monster
11:38.41Diaoonly 1 loads even if you use embedded
11:38.43calvin_*embedded
11:38.46calvin_rgr
11:38.53calvin_should i install the threat-1.0 lib?
11:38.59calvin_would that help?
11:39.00Punkie`Have you tried just not using Pitbull?
11:39.06JaxonIf he isn't syncing properly, maybe he is hitting the cap on the addon communication limits?
11:39.19[dRaCo]works fine here using pb and omen...
11:39.34calvin_on my lock its perfect using both
11:39.39[dRaCo]and well, if his own threat doesnt show up
11:39.42Punkie`I wouldn't touch Pitbull with a bargepole :P
11:39.50calvin_My next test ws to not tank, have someone else and i just dps, see if i sahow up ok
11:39.57calvin_ya they see nothing
11:40.04calvin_they are all well above my level
11:40.12[dRaCo]any errors?
11:40.14Punkie`calvin_: It could just be as simple as resetting your settings for both Pitbull and Omen
11:40.14calvin_if theres any logs etc i can do to give more info pls let me know
11:40.38calvin_Pucmel, ive already nuked both tonight to tryt hat tomorrow, thx for the tip
11:41.03Punkie`You need to tab better with 250+ people in this channel :p
11:41.03calvin_[dRaCo], you know the sec you asked that i remembered i disabled lua errors, ill reenable that as well (allt hese tips are helping guys)
11:41.05Diaodid you try running only 1 or the other
11:41.09calvin_*punkie
11:41.32Punkie`The only thing I can think of is if one has flagged threatlib to be disabled somehow
11:42.04calvin_well before i inquire too much let me do the suggestions already given and that way i can come back and at least have more info for you all
11:42.13Punkie`Do you know how to properly delete your settings etc?
11:42.37calvin_Punkie`, yessir... basically I search WTF for "omen", "pitbull"
11:42.44calvin_and i nuked everythng I saw
11:42.50Punkie`Yeah, that should do it
11:42.52[dRaCo]calvin_: if you get any errors, install bugsack and buggrabber and get us a debug trace
11:43.12calvin_Everyone, thx so much for the guidance, I will do that [dRaCo]
11:43.30Elkanothere was an addon that needed advanced tooltips turned on... anyone remembers its name?
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11:43.48Punkie`calvin_: Just a note, you may have 'Disable Lua Errors' ticked in the interface options... meaning you get no errors :)
11:43.57[dRaCo]he had
11:44.07[dRaCo][13:42:22] (calvin_): [dRaCo], you know the sec you asked that i remembered i disabled lua errors, ill reenable that as well (allt hese tips are helping guys)
11:44.14calvin_Punkie`, ya earlier in this chat I mentioned that I realized i did infact diable it, so yer correct... i will enable that as well
11:44.25calvin_there ya go hehe
11:45.48calvin_Well you all have given me a direction t go and i thank you... let me collect this new data and see what you all can make of it... should i find the problem ill also pop in and update you what worked and didn't...
11:46.02calvin_have a great day/night everyone... as you can tell im very grateful =)
11:46.08calvin_*to
11:46.20Fisker-Punkie`
11:46.25Punkie`cya
11:46.26Fisker-A wild Fisker- appears
11:46.28calvin_\m/
11:47.56Punkie`Oh noes, my Fisker- is evolving.
11:48.02Punkie`ownt Fisker-.
11:50.56Tornhoofteenage mutant hero ninja fisker?
11:51.09Punkie`no, he's only level 2
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11:52.59Fisker-you can't halt my evolve :(
11:53.01Fisker-stupid Punkie`
11:53.16ElkanoOMG, it's talking...
11:53.28Punkie`Fisker-: too slow, i pressed B
11:53.47Tornhoofas long as it is not mating, there is no problem elkano
11:54.00Punkie`Fisker-: I'm not going to use you for any other fights, no exp for you
11:54.07Punkie`btw I stored you in my computer
11:55.10Fisker-:(
11:55.25Punkie`Fisker-: you die in the game you die for real
11:58.44sbreminds me of "in the real world, when you kill people they die - for real!" - nice movie :p
11:59.27sb:(
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12:15.05JaxonAnd cooking at 375.
12:15.12HjalteAnyone else having problems with the latest Baggins r47177 ?
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12:16.37Solelol a priest is trying to prove that rogues are overpowered
12:16.46Soleand we were barely hit by resilience
12:16.59SoleI love stupid people
12:18.57CIA-1403nevcairiel 072.2 * r47178 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua Core.lua): Bartender3: remove library embeding, call them directly and cheat them into thinking we embeded them
12:20.48sbuhm yes, nerf rogues and warlocks!
12:21.01|Pixel|and hunters
12:21.26nevcairieljust buff druids, no need to nerf 8 classes for them :)
12:21.51abbat_wbuff rogues, buff druids
12:21.57abbat_wrebuild locks, they are crap
12:22.16abbat_wbut good geared druids is ok ;)
12:22.25abbat_wrogues really need buff in pvp
12:23.23Pheredhelnerf healadins *just adding something
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12:24.57Keyabuff priests - too many quiting the game
12:25.20abbat_wpriests is ok, not?
12:25.26abbat_wwhat you want to buff?
12:26.21Grumpriests are kinda limited endgame
12:26.27Grumand are getting more of a tool than anything else
12:26.29CIA-1403pb_ee1 * r47179 10/tags/ChatLog/: ChatLog: Creating folder.
12:26.37Grum'mana batteries or raidhealers'
12:26.46pb_ee1shoot
12:27.25abbat_whmm...
12:27.26Grumjust give priests +20% stamina orso, we might actually prove useful if we get rid of that stupid squishiness
12:27.34abbat_wmy friend play by priest
12:27.42abbat_wthey run pvp only and use shadow spec
12:27.49abbat_wthey like priest as class
12:27.55Grumalways: 'oooh priest *CLEAVE*' - dead priest!
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12:28.05abbat_win pve?
12:28.10Grumit hardly ever happens that i am not one-shotted
12:28.11Grumyeah
12:28.15abbat_wit's ok ;)
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12:28.27abbat_wevery class in pve now one shot ;)
12:28.32Industrial~seen Ambient
12:28.36purlambient <hyppanen@jumi.lut.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 902d 1h 5m 38s ago, saying: 'or xorg.conf'.
12:28.36Grumnot really
12:28.40Industrial..
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12:28.41Grumoh well depends what kind of dmg you put against it
12:29.17Grumand gruul missed me twice in a row while being @ grow 16 last time we killed him =D
12:29.33Grumi was begging for a hit .. and he missed me! the nub
12:29.39abbat_wYou should't aggro Gruul ;)
12:29.47Grumi'm holy ... how can i aggro gruul? :P
12:29.55abbat_wHe probably need some more hit ;)
12:30.10abbat_wAnd change tank btw ;)
12:30.41Grumwell the MT was alive ..
12:30.51Industrial#raiding
12:30.52Grumthe OT got oneshotted at grow 15 orso :P
12:31.05Grum*splat* 18k
12:31.24Grumafter that we started sacrificing people .. and it was my time! .. and he missed .. twice! *sob*
12:31.31JaxonWe killed Gruul at 9 growths tonight, that was cool.
12:31.40Grumdamn that is sick
12:31.48GrumWTB your dps+clue+luck
12:31.56JaxonLuck?
12:32.03Grumyes luck
12:32.12Industrialguys, #raiding
12:32.12Grumgruul is still luck-heavy because of the shatters
12:32.33JaxonIndustrial: no one else is talking... :P
12:32.37Industrialso?
12:32.44sbmh
12:32.56sbwe killed gruul after MT was crushed (no comment...) at 25% :p
12:33.02Grumso go to: #whine-about-raiding and type #raiding there every min ute
12:33.10sbdruid OT solo tanking ;p
12:33.11Industrial..|.
12:33.11Grumhehe
12:33.13abbat_w;)
12:33.36Industrialor ill just.. leave again
12:33.40Grum*bye*
12:33.49sbhm
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12:33.54Grumlol O.o
12:33.59sbchannel #raiding is empty :/
12:34.05Grumgod that makes my day completely
12:34.16Grum*\o/* for Industrial
12:35.23Diaolol
12:35.26CIA-1403nevcairiel 072.2 * r47180 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua): Bartender3: dont use AceEvent at all for registering our events, we can do that on the frame itself, since the frame event system has been greatly optimized for 2.2
12:35.30CIA-1403pb_ee1 0747179 * r47181 10ChatLog/: ChatLog: Adding r47179.
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12:35.56Grumnext time i'll see him i'll try to annoy him away in 60s :D
12:36.46abbat_w;)
12:36.52abbat_wIndustrial have a bad day?
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12:39.37Grumdunno, i'll give him one next time ;)
12:41.08Grumhumz if you do the same operation multiple times (not a rather complete one - picture taking a dot-product from 2 vectors) would it be wise to write a seperate function for it or would that be 'hurting' speedwise?
12:41.16Grum*complex
12:41.36Grumnot sure how lua's overhead is with calling function (it would be a local one ofc)
12:41.50Tranceranyone knows a way to stuff a macro on a petbar?
12:42.45JaxonTrancer: can't.  You can use macros to emulate the petbar on another actionbar.
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12:43.28TrancerJaxon: myeah, not ideal
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12:43.44abbat_wyeah
12:43.52abbat_w/click PetActionButton5
12:43.54abbat_wlike this
12:44.04Jaxon<PROTECTED>
12:44.08Trancerwell yeah I have that, but that means another spell on my bars.. or hidden etc.
12:44.09Borked|Raidercan you make subaddons to one addon, like havinga addon root interface/addons/root/ and then have a subaddon that are placed in /root/subaddon/ so that i for one of my addons could make a extension without the user have to have it messing in the /addon/ folder?
12:44.10Jaxon<PROTECTED>
12:44.16Wobin<PROTECTED>
12:44.23Trancerit's for seduce, I don't want that button on my own bars but on my succi's
12:44.32Jaxon<PROTECTED>
12:44.34Trancerso I can just use CTRL + 4.. without fucking up the actions of other pets
12:44.59JaxonOkay, so bind the spot on your bar that seduce is on to CTRL + 4?
12:45.04GrumBorked|Raider: yes and no, you have to adjust the addon you are extending to load your addons files
12:45.15TrancerJaxon: that fucks up the actions at spot 4 for felhunters etc.
12:45.21JaxonTrancer: Secondary Action Button # in the keybindings.
12:45.22Borked|RaiderGrum, ye by the toc file
12:45.23Grum(by embeds.xml / Dirname.toc)
12:45.30JaxonHow does it fuck it up?
12:45.30TrancerJaxon: oh hmm, that might be an idea
12:45.43JaxonAll the pets should have their own petbar with spells and such.
12:45.49TrancerYes..
12:45.52Borked|RaiderGrum, but not posible to make a toc in the new /subaddon/ that get loaded without having to put in anything in the toc of the /root/
12:45.54TrancerWith their own keybinds.. CTRL 1 - 9
12:46.02TrancerNow if I bind CTRL 4 to the seduce action on my own bar
12:46.03Grumnope
12:46.08Borked|Raider:(
12:46.10Grumyou need to edit the toc
12:46.13Grumor just make your own addon?
12:46.14TrancerThe CTRL 4 action of my felhunter is no longer usable with a keybind
12:46.22SoleOH FUCK
12:46.25Grumit's just as easy tbh, you only have to make the TOC =)
12:46.31JaxonOr just put Seduce in the CTRL - 4 spot on the PetBar.  Pets can't have more than 4 activated abilities.
12:46.31SoleI had an essay typed up to own this stupid priest
12:46.45Soleand I accidentally clicked a link in my nav bar and losti t
12:46.50[Ammo]or make sure your macro is dependant on pet
12:46.52TrancerJaxon: it's a macro
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12:47.02Solegonna have to start writing essay posts in a text editor now
12:47.08Borked|RaiderGrum, thats not the consern, i just wanted to know if it was posible to make a sub addon to a addon and place it in the addons folder instead of the /interface/addons/ folder
12:47.13Trancer[Ammo]: so.. make a macro based on pet and different actions per pet, can do I guess
12:47.20JaxonThen it has to go on a player actionbar.
12:47.26[Ammo]./cast [pet=Succubus] Seduce ./cast [pet=Felhutner] Devour Magic
12:47.30[Ammo]or something like that
12:47.34GrumBorked|Raider: you can with toc editing, but that has a lot of downsides (your addon will stop working when you upgrade for example)
12:47.39Trancermyeah + a truckload of /clearfocus checks :P
12:47.53JaxonTrancer, whats the macro?
12:48.08Nandininevcairiel: Did you see the post of upcoming UI changes for 2.3 that said /cancelform will "be recognized instantly (as /dismount is currently)"
12:48.17Trancer<PROTECTED>
12:48.17Borked|RaiderGrum, i know thats why i dont want to use that solution, aint good for end user either to have to change the toc file after what sub addons he want. I am just going to make them normal addons
12:48.21Trancer<PROTECTED>
12:48.24Trancer<PROTECTED>
12:48.24nevcairielNandini: hm? so?
12:48.28Trancer<PROTECTED>
12:48.42GrumBorked|Raider: that's the best tbh :)
12:48.44Nandiniwould that enable 1-click shifting between forms?
12:48.53nevcairielpossibly
12:48.56Borked|RaiderGrum - ye no douth about that
12:49.03nevcairielcant tell without ptr
12:49.17TrancerJaxon: reworking it atm to include felhunter :-)
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12:49.33Trancergoing to be hard with the 255 limit, heh
12:49.43Borked|Raiderwas just some old pitbull folder i saw where there was alot of sub modules in the pitbull folder(which properly was the meaning i should copy those out in the interface/addons/ folder isntead :))
12:49.52Borked|Raiderso was just wondering if it was posible
12:50.08GrumBorked|Raider: you have the filelist.wau for that i think
12:50.16Grumit automaticly does that if installed properly
12:50.33Nandiniand if installed using WAU
12:50.35JaxonYou are casting Seduction either way, you just want it to cast on a focus if you have it, right?  [target=focus] with the pet:succubus part should allow you to shorten it a bit.
12:50.54Borked|Raidernvm dont use this many addons, mostly only my own so not a problem, i just wanted to know :)
12:51.42Grumi 'just have ~340 dirs' in my addons dir :
12:51.52TrancerJaxon: yes, and reset it when target is dead (hence clearfocus)
12:55.42Trancerk, workie
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13:35.50CIA-1403elkano * r47182 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua:
13:35.50CIA-14ElkBuffBars
13:35.50CIA-14- now using UNIT_PET to watch for pet changes (drycoded, please test)
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13:42.47xyu`Unable to validate game version...
13:42.48xyu`weird
13:42.53xyu`it worked fine yesterday
13:43.27fireglowincomming noobquestion: which addon can i use to make the trade window, character window, spellbook, etc moveable?
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13:44.38xyu`i think it's visor2  
13:44.40xyu`brb
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13:58.07LAG|DomoIf you use Baggins, how do you open your actual bank window so you can buy more bank slots?
13:58.25kenlyricturn off the option to supress the bank window.
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13:59.10LAG|DomoThanks
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14:11.22Fisker-Punkie`
14:11.28Fisker-your Fisker- is evolving
14:11.30Fisker-evolving.....
14:11.39Fisker-Your Fisker- has evolved outside your pokeball
14:11.40Fisker-PWNT
14:12.05Borked|RaiderBoubouille - do the pvp news site also have a rss feet?
14:12.12Fisker-feet :P
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14:13.06Punkie`<PROTECTED>
14:13.17Punkie`You were in my computer
14:13.22Punkie`you made it up
14:13.48Fisker-rawr?
14:13.55Fisker-btw Punkie`
14:13.57Fisker-i has been pwnt
14:14.02Punkie`by me?
14:14.03Punkie`i know
14:14.03Fisker-no
14:14.05Fisker-by 2K
14:14.14Fisker-Bioshock can only be activated twice
14:14.20Fisker-i lulz'ed
14:14.26Punkie`yeh
14:14.28Punkie`you got pwnt
14:14.31vithosuh...lol?
14:15.04Fisker-People who buy the retail version of Bioshock can only activate it twice, so after the first reinstallation it can no longer be activated without contacting Securom
14:15.29vithosin other news:  mobmitigation has a retardedly superwrong formula for estimating armor value from the mitigated percent
14:15.32Fisker-People who buy the steam version can apparently activate it an unlimited number of times, but if their hardware changes more than once it can no longer be activated either
14:15.53vithos...uh.
14:16.18vithosso you can't like.  use your steam account to play it on someone else's computer
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14:16.47vithosisn't that kinda the whole point of steam?
14:17.10Fisker-yeah
14:17.41vithoslol@valve actually allowing that
14:18.11jmei still haven't tried bioshock yet
14:18.54Fisker-yeah it's a shame vithos
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14:19.54Keyahm my PC changed twice in the last 3 years but all steam games I have continue to work as if nothing happened
14:20.28alextmaybe it checks a certain piece of hardware
14:20.30vithosyou haven't been playing bioshock for 3 years
14:20.45alextlike an Hard Drive signature or something...yeah or its particular for just that game
14:21.05KeyaI'm playing CS:S since it's out
14:21.12vithosthis is apparently a securom thing, not a steam thing
14:21.24vithoswell actually no
14:21.27vithosi don't know
14:21.39vithosit's just lame, that's what it is
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14:23.23CIA-1403bayi * r47183 10beql/options.lua: beql: - Fixed dead call to LookForCompletedQuests() in options.lua
14:23.33jmehate it when i log out without both of my pve trinkets
14:24.02jmemaybe i just care too much about my armory page :o
14:24.19vithosso, i went and got a weapon that always does the same damage
14:24.30jmea fishing pole?
14:24.31vithosbut it actually varies by 1 damage
14:24.36vithosScreeching Bow
14:24.45vithosfrom stratholme
14:25.01jmestrat is soloable?
14:25.13vithosyeah, you just walk by all the trash
14:25.24jmeright ;)
14:25.41jmei still haven't run strat, or scholo
14:25.53vithosi had only run scholo
14:26.32alexti do scholo up do that doctor boss
14:26.40alextwho fucks me up every time
14:26.48alexthe dual wields and tears up cloth real bad
14:26.58jmeheh
14:27.41jmei like to solo teremus in the blasted lands
14:27.47vithosi just went straight to baroness anastari, after getting the key
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14:28.06alexti was trying to farm the flask of supreme power
14:28.16jmeah
14:28.17alexti did every boss except the doctor guy and the final boss...since he doesnt appear unless the doctor is dead
14:28.26vithosdismissed pet so no MC; equipped my BT SR gear; she stays ranged
14:28.32alextwell he doesnt appear unless all the other bosses are dead
14:28.44vithosresisted almost all her stuff fully
14:28.48jmevithos: :o
14:28.53alextnice
14:29.15vithostakes like 3 minutes per kill/reset
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14:30.20jmevithos: my gf got the sunfury off her guild's first prince kill :(
14:30.48jmewell i think i mentioned that already
14:30.56vithosyes, lol
14:31.02Diaolol
14:31.14jmeok :)
14:31.14vithoswelcome to yourself, earlier in the week sir
14:31.23jmei've slept since then
14:31.26jmethat's my excuse
14:31.55vithosthat's no excuse, sleep when you die!
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14:32.10jmehehe
14:32.34Qaarhhey everyone
14:32.37jmei saw a lightning crown in my bags last night
14:32.44jmei have no clue where it came from
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14:33.22vithoswhat's that?
14:33.37jmerandom drop boe epic
14:33.42jmehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=31330
14:33.56vithosah, cool
14:34.06vithosmy friend got a depleted badge off shartuul this morning
14:34.31jmecool
14:36.33deltronholy shit
14:36.39deltronthat's an insane amount of crit
14:37.44Qaarhyou guys know if there is an addon that prints how long a fight has been going on? Preferably FuBar
14:38.15mort|workand no stats at all mmh
14:38.15jmepretty sure there is one.. combattimer or something?
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14:38.50QaarhCombatTimeFu perhaps *learns to use search*
14:39.04jmenot sure, i haven't looked at the addon list in a while
14:39.11deltronnoob!
14:39.25jmehah
14:39.55ElkanoQaarh, EavesDrop does that, including a summary of damage/heal done/taken by you
14:40.07Elkanobut it's most likely not what you want
14:40.20QaarhHmm, isn't that like.. a combat log mod thingy?
14:40.57vithosyes
14:41.14QaarhI run swstats for its combat log now, but.. I could try it out and see, I'm always open for suggestions ;)
14:41.36winkillerhah, I just commited 30k LOC
14:41.45winkillerguess I am no1 dev on theproject now :P
14:41.54Elkanowell, it's a combat log like the chat frame, not a damage meter ^^
14:42.04jmewinkiller: KILLING BLOW
14:42.06QaarhElkano: right, but the swstats combat log is nice too..
14:42.23Elkanocan't tell, using violation
14:42.34pb_ee1winkiller, which project?
14:42.38jmesame, i use violation and simplecombatlog
14:42.38vithosQaarh: you can find the combat duration in the summary report in recount as well, if you want to try that out as a replacement for sws
14:42.44winkillerin my company
14:43.00Qaarhvithos: mm, true
14:43.01winkillerto be faitr, it was just adjusting all language files from the last version :P
14:44.04Qaarhgoing to try them out
14:46.12CIA-1403nevcairiel * r47184 10AuldLangSyne/FriendList/FriendList.lua: AuldLangSyne: attempt at fixing config migration Info->FriendList
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14:48.45vithosman, recount is so epic
14:49.13vithoslike.. threat/time graph.
14:49.32Brunersviolation is not showing hunter's pet dmg right :(
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14:49.57vithosi wish i knew it could do that last night when anetheron magically aggrod on me
14:50.07vithoscould have just graphed my threat vs the tanks and screenshotted it
14:50.24jmel2notrapidfirewhenat90%threat
14:50.41jme:D
14:50.51Brunerspfft, can still just FD when you grab aggro :P
14:50.56vithosi wasn't at 90% threat, according to omen
14:51.01jmeyeah
14:51.14jmevithos: figured out why i was running out of mana
14:51.30vithosi pulled and died, got yelled at.  then after the kill, asked if anyone actually saw the meter and people were saying i wasn't even in the top5 before pulling
14:51.47vithosoh, why?
14:51.49jmevithos: when i specced back to 41/20 BM i picked up imp hawk 5/5 instead of efficiency from MM
14:52.06vithosyou mean imp HM?
14:52.11jmeyes
14:52.16vithosthat would explain it.
14:52.17vithoslol
14:52.25vithoslearn2talented
14:52.29jme:(
14:52.38vithostalent templates with oneclick application = win
14:52.42Brunersmana pots or aotv and your good
14:52.42jmeis imp HM a party buff?
14:52.49vithosraid
14:52.53jmeah
14:53.08vithosjust modifies the target debuff
14:53.18jmeBruners: yeah, i stocked up on mana pots for tonight :o
14:53.45Brunersor you could go elixir of major mageblood and agi/ap elixir
14:53.57jmeBruners: really sucked on nightbane the other night, i ran out of mana at like 30% and couldn't FD out of combat to drink, so i ahd to open trade with someome mid fight, hah
14:55.03Xinhuandid grum kill fathomlord?
14:55.09Xinhuanwe had a discussion yesterday
14:56.40CIA-1403ammo * r47185 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: fix aura gains by enemies and mobs.
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15:02.03vithoscrap.  i'm down to 300g
15:02.17[Ammo]sell your body in shattrath
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15:02.35vithosgood call.  i knew there was a reason i rolled female NE
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15:03.03jmei'm down to 35g
15:03.07jmebeat that
15:03.24[Ammo]I'm at -900something
15:03.27[Ammo]:)
15:03.36jmewell technically i am at -400 if you count the loan my gf gave me
15:03.39[dRaCo]I just found 2 epics while farming strath for righteous orbs o0
15:03.40[Ammo]still have to pay someone 2500 gold :)
15:03.56jme[Ammoo]: training loan?
15:04.08[Ammo]I needed my epix mount
15:04.20jmei have yet to ask for loans for that
15:04.36jmethere's this one JC on my server that has over 40k gold but he doesn't give loans :(
15:05.25[dRaCo]skill mining.
15:05.35[dRaCo]best money making profession ever
15:05.54jmeyeah, i have 375 mining
15:06.12jmeand maybe 200g worth of mithril and thorium in my bank from skilling it
15:06.26[Ammo]the guy I loaned from is a JC
15:06.33[Ammo]he just buys ore, prospects and sells gems
15:06.38[Ammo]makes 200+g a day doing just that
15:06.42[Ammo]'playing the AH'
15:06.43jmeyeah, that's what they do
15:06.59[dRaCo]one stack of adamantite goes for 30g here... one rare gem for like 50g
15:07.40[Ammo]oh and if you want to have your coworkers look at you strangely, visit this site with speakers real loud: http://www.moanmyip.com/
15:08.31ulicoh brother
15:08.50vithosthat will be an epic ventrilo spam next time i'm hosting some kind of game server.
15:10.22deltronlol [Ammo]
15:10.56jme[Ammoo]: make irssi not tab complete your cow form nick
15:11.41vithosjust keep hitting tab :P
15:11.42nevcairielman people really create stupid pages
15:15.50CIA-1403deccard * r47186 10MiniChat/Core.lua:
15:15.50CIA-14MiniChat:
15:15.50CIA-14- you can now disable MiniChat for certain chat windows
15:15.55QaarhElkano: Now I got stuck on EavesDrop
15:16.18QaarhElkano: I really like how it displays stuff
15:16.44CIA-1403ulic * r47187 10LittleWigs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): LittleWigs: Several esES additions from bailon
15:17.40Yssarilfor the fubarplugin to work properly do i need tablet?
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15:18.35jmeXuerian: fail
15:19.06ElkanoQaarh :)
15:19.11Xuerianjme: You made me die a little inside.
15:19.27jmeXuerian: you make me die a little inside every day!
15:19.36jmeXuerian: :D
15:19.41ElkanoYssaril, depends on the plugin, some use Blizzard tooltip while others use Tablet or own frames
15:19.48jmelol
15:19.57Yssarilwell this is my code http://ace.pastey.net/72571
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15:20.24Yssariland every now and then when i reload my UI the addon disapears from my fubar
15:20.52Yssarilevey now and then i can get it back by cycling minimapAttach but half the time that fails with this error
15:21.07YssarilTablet-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `IsRegistered' (table or string expected, got nil)
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15:22.28Yssarilhere is the full error from bugsack http://ace.pastey.net/72572
15:23.05pb_ee1~chatlog
15:23.10Fisker-oh Punkie`
15:23.13Fisker-THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
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15:23.37Fisker-If you uninstall the game before reinstalling then you can activate it as much as you like!1
15:23.42Chompers:O
15:23.45Fisker-What a convenience
15:23.47Chompersyou've been playing then?
15:23.50Fisker-no
15:24.00Fisker-"Oh i just have to reinstall windows"
15:24.04*** join/#wowace sunset (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-104-6.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr)
15:24.14Fisker-A shame it'll take me 10 hours because i just happen to have some 40 titles protected by that securom crap
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15:25.23Fisker-btw Chompers they closed my poll :(
15:25.46ChompersBASTARDS
15:26.33Chompersif i wasn't so lazy i'd gather up all my nerd rage and make a nasty forum post
15:26.37Fisker-http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125452 <-i think it was constructive, to the point and didn't contain trolling
15:27.00cncfanaticsFIsker-
15:27.08cncfanaticssomething you write cannot be constructive AND not contain trolling
15:27.22Fisker-sure
15:27.25Fisker-in bizzaroworld
15:28.32cncfanaticsFisker-, either way, if some crap is protected by securom, heck it
15:28.36cncfanaticss/heck/hack/
15:28.38cncfanaticsthats what I do
15:29.01Fisker-already paid for it :(
15:29.12Fisker-Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
15:29.22cncfanaticsindeed
15:29.24cncfanaticsjust download em heck
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15:29.31cncfanaticswhy pay for games ?
15:29.47Chomperspay for good games
15:29.48Fisker-that's warez!
15:29.50Fisker-indeed
15:29.52ChompersMafia was fantastic
15:29.57deltronwhat's up with securom?
15:30.02deltronI noticed bioshock had it
15:30.03Fisker-or, pay for good games that doesn't infringe on your basic right to use a game
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15:30.10deltronI just bought it and installed it
15:30.16Fisker-deltron the bioshock version allows 2 reinstalls unless you uninstall it properly each time
15:30.22Fisker-1 reinstall actually
15:30.23deltronwtf
15:30.28deltronthat's lame
15:30.31Fisker-yes
15:30.38Fisker-so much for "one-time activation"
15:30.50deltronthat's worse than MS's activation stuff
15:30.56Fisker-yes
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15:36.38CIA-1403mecdemort * r47188 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua:
15:36.38CIA-14Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Will no longer have a chance to throw errors when logging out.
15:36.38CIA-14- If New category doesn't exist, will not try to reset new items.
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15:40.46ElkanoMecdemort, ping?
15:40.52Mecdemortpong
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15:41.24Elkanothere's also a bug with upgrading AnywhereBags from DB 2 to DB 4 since DB 2 version is stored as string
15:41.54CIA-1403mecdemort * r47189 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - No longer compares number to string if you update from a much older version.
15:42.14Mecdemortya just saw that in tracs
15:42.26Elkanogood :)
15:42.46MecdemortThe reason uninstall/reinstall didnt work is because that didnt affect the savesvariables file
15:43.40Elkanoyeah, I know. I had fixed it for myself by replacing the string with the number in SVs
15:44.25charon!seen antiarc
15:44.39Mecdemorti really should just check by revision number
15:44.59Elkanoyour > if not tonumber(version) then < should most likely have been a > if not type(version) == "number" <
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15:45.27Mecdemort> if type(p.DBVersion) ~= "number" then
15:45.45Elkanooh, yeahr not equal ^^
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15:47.44Mecdemortill change it to check by revision the next time i make a change
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15:48.38CIA-1403toadkiller * r47190 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
15:48.38CIA-14PeriodicTable-3.0:
15:48.38CIA-14- Added all missing buff foods from *.Bonus to Consumable.Food.Buff.*
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15:50.16Elkanotoadkiller isnt on irc, is he?
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16:00.30CIA-1403adirelle * r47191 10CastYeller/: CastYeller: never use "\" as the path separator in svn:externals, NEVER !
16:00.48cryogen\\\\\\\\\\\
16:01.21cryogenblizzard should prevent annoying addons
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16:02.37hamunaptrapitbull question: how can I get the "pet happiness indicator"?
16:03.00Mecdemortcryogen: if they prevented 1 anoying addon they'd end up blocking 100 usefull ones
16:03.28cryogenMecdemort: but on the plus side, i wouldnt be annoyed
16:03.44CIA-1403adirelle * r47192 10SimpleSelfRebuff/: SimpleSelfRebuff: never use "\" as the path separator in svn:externals, NEVER !
16:03.46Saishamunaptra: It's the colour of the bar
16:04.05Mecdemortlol
16:04.08Saisgreen = happy, yellow = so-so, red(iirc) = unhappy
16:04.24Mecdemortnaw red = omg imma bite you
16:04.29Saislol
16:04.33hamunaptrathe color of which bar? the health bar?
16:04.49SaisThe name bar, iirc. It's pretty obvious.
16:04.51CIA-1403adirelle * r47193 10FuBar_ThreatFu/: FuBar_ThreatFu: never use "\" as the path separator in svn:externals, NEVER !
16:05.09SaisAlthough I didn't notice until someone else asked the same question
16:05.28SaisOK - it's obvious when you know what you're looking for!
16:05.47hamunaptrasais: the name bar on my pet is the health bar and it is colored according to health... so I would have to add another bar (name bar) to have this.. right?
16:06.24SaisIsn't it only coloured for health when you're in combat?
16:06.39Sais*logs in to check*
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16:08.08hamunaptrasais: ok, you're right :) ... out of combat, it has the "right" color^^
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16:09.32CIA-1403adirelle * r47194 10QuietCast/ (. Libs/ QuietCast.toc embeds.xml): QuietCast: clean up externals.
16:10.02Mecdemortwhats the difference between tablet and dewdrop?
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16:10.13SaisI actually have two bars - the name and the health. it's the name bar that changes colour
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16:20.36Kemayosb: You're right, maybe I *should* have called it FriendLust... :D
16:20.56CIA-1403bayi * r47197 10beql/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
16:20.56CIA-14beql:
16:20.56CIA-14- Toc: Added beqltitan.xmls -> beqltitan.lua
16:20.56CIA-14- Toc: Added localization-fr.lua
16:20.56CIA-14- Locales: Added localization-fr.lua French localization made by Scylia
16:20.56CIA-14- TitanPlugin: Added beql Titan Plugin
16:20.58CIA-14- TitanPlugin: FuBar plugin disables if TitanBar loaded, TitanPlugin only activates if TitanBar is loaded
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16:22.18sbKemayo: meeeh :p
16:22.19sblist :p
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16:23.34Jp^Shit happens
16:25.45Jp^Someone familar with "Antiarc's WoW Armory Tools" ?
16:26.40sbhmm - Antiar2? :P
16:26.58Jp^m?
16:26.58Punkie`What's with the "Shit Happens"?
16:27.06Jp^Shit do happen lol :)
16:27.13Punkie`but you just came in
16:27.18Jp^yes
16:27.25Jp^this is my wellcome logo :D
16:27.31Punkie`it's awful
16:27.44Jp^grr :) im not in a perfect mood thats all.. :)
16:27.48Punkie`:P
16:27.55Jp^i cant install one sh.. thing
16:28.02Punkie`What's wrong with Antiarc's tools?
16:28.11Jp^i have some big error
16:28.22Punkie`can you link me to the website ?
16:28.25nytestormsWoW changes the armory website url today, and the tools are not working correctly
16:28.29Jp^i managed the web and everything :) even the password and username (i was little confuse with it)
16:28.39Jp^my error is from before
16:28.50Jp^its only 127.0.0.1 :D for now
16:28.58Punkie`ok, just tell me the error :)
16:29.01Jp^i can show you the error.. if you think you can help me
16:29.01Jp^ok
16:29.28Jp^to paste it on main?
16:29.31Jp^?
16:29.32Jp^<D:error>
16:29.32Jp^<C:error/>
16:29.32Jp^<m:human-readable errcode="165005">
16:29.32Jp^Could not open the requested SVN filesystem
16:29.32Jp^</m:human-readable>
16:29.34Jp^</D:error>
16:29.56Punkie`ok well from now on use ace.pastey.net for errors ^^
16:30.13Jp^what ?:)
16:30.18Punkie`but what's the problem, you can't actually download the files via SVN?
16:30.23Jp^i have them
16:30.37Jp^i have everything this is when i try to acces them
16:30.38Punkie`Ok, so where do you get that error?
16:31.16Jp^if you have hamachi on your pc i can show you
16:32.42Punkie`I don't know what hamachi is :P
16:32.49Jp^<PROTECTED>
16:32.54Punkie`Like VNC?
16:33.04Mecdemortdoes a file's revision number change if any of it's embeded libraries is updated?
16:33.13Jp^Hamachi set's  LOCAL connections via INTERNET .. something like this :D
16:33.34Punkie`Alright, no I don't have this
16:33.36Jp^my english isnt very good so i cant explain.. but i have VNC also.. :D
16:33.42Punkie`Mecdemort: No
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16:37.04Punkie`Jp^: I'm not sure what the problem is
16:37.10Jp^ream pm
16:37.12Jp^read
16:37.16Punkie`If you talk to Antiar2, he's the person who made it all anyway
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16:42.34Mudkipswhat a crapshoot
16:42.58Mudkipsagp cards are at least 30% more expensive compared to pci express
16:43.28MudkipsI thought old technology is supposed to go cheaper over time...
16:43.50Ordognot if you produce for a dying market
16:44.59charonAntiar2: ping
16:45.05Punkie`Old PCI cards are freaking expensive :P
16:46.27Mecdemortsupply and demand's a bitch
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16:49.10Jp^omg f1ck it :) grr ill try to build a spaceshuttle :)
16:49.17Jp^bb gl hf
16:50.57DottedPunkie` hamachi is a vpn
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16:52.05Dottedand much like irc there are rooms and in those rooms ppl will be conneted like if they where at a lan
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16:53.08CIA-14FuBar_GarbageFu:
16:53.08CIA-14- added zhTW localization
16:53.08CIA-14- use embeds.xml
16:53.08CIA-14- add Ignore EngBag/GemBag/MiningBag options
16:53.47cryogenwhy are some servers showing as red in the server list
16:53.53CIA-1403helium * r47201 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc embeds.xml):
16:53.53CIA-14AutoBar:
16:53.54CIA-14- use embeds.xml
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17:01.20NeoTronman wowjutsu needs to update my guild. been a week now with no updates - additional al'ar kill + vashj kill. not sure if it's enough for top 500 but still
17:03.06CIA-1403adirelle * r47203 10CastYeller/ (. CastYeller.lua announces/warlock.lua):
17:03.06CIA-14CastYeller:
17:03.06CIA-14- fixed duplicate externals,
17:03.06CIA-14- attempt to fix missing summon target.
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17:06.56RaydenUnicyclisti need to respec
17:07.06RaydenUnicyclistif only to relinquish those 2 points i have in holy
17:11.25RaydenUnicyclistany PVE shadow priests here who can share a talent build?
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17:13.04NeoTronhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Sasarai is one example
17:13.21NeoTronbut depending on gear it might be better to have a bit more disc for the mana regen
17:13.38NeoTronour other shadow priest is currently on a raid break and specced pvp disc/holy
17:15.29RaydenUnicyclist!c us destromath raydenuni
17:15.34ThraeBotRaydenUnicyclist: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (13/2/46). 7191 HP; 8145 Mana; 181 mana regen; 27 mp5; 127 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 412 +spell dmg/heal; 50 frost dmg (462); 89 shadow dmg (501); 5.06% dodge; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 722 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ]]
17:15.56RaydenUnicyclisti'm leaning towards 17/0/44
17:16.34[dRaCo]I'd go 14/0/47 ;)
17:16.42Tornhoofhmm anyone updated baggins recently?
17:16.53pastamancer0/10/51 :p
17:16.59pastamancer<3 spell warding
17:17.01[dRaCo]earlier today, tornhoof... why?
17:17.05RaydenUnicyclistpastamancer what do you put into holy?
17:17.19[dRaCo]pastamancer: for pve? why?
17:17.20RaydenUnicyclistShadow Power useful?
17:17.22Tornhoof2007/08/22 19:14:13-2570-x1]: Baggins-Beta 1\Baggins.lua:1306: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
17:17.32pastamancerimp renew, that don't get interrupted thingy, and spell warding
17:17.37[dRaCo]fine here, Tornhoof
17:17.47pastamancerI originally specced into it to be the curator bolt tank
17:17.53NeoTron:se noai
17:17.53NeoTrona:se ai
17:17.58RaydenUnicyclistwhen do you use renew, or get attacked much in dungeons?
17:18.03RaydenUnicyclistoh
17:18.06[dRaCo]RaydenUnicyclist: depends. if you use mindblast on a regular basis, yes
17:18.14pastamancerI use renew and pom on ae pulls
17:18.20[dRaCo]I personally am more the dot, melt faces guy
17:18.37RaydenUnicyclistfrisbee :)
17:18.50RaydenUnicyclistyeah i think little focus on mind blast for me
17:18.54pastamancerthere's enough things that do AE spell damage that I haven't wanted to spec out of spell warding
17:18.58RaydenUnicyclistfrees up 10 talent points too
17:19.18[dRaCo]well, SW:D is great
17:19.24RaydenUnicyclistallows for meditation and mental agility
17:19.34[dRaCo]so you might use those 5 points in SP anyway
17:19.35RaydenUnicyclisti was doing the 5 man ogri'la quests with guildies last night
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17:19.41RaydenUnicyclistwe were on our last one, the one above shattrath
17:19.51RaydenUnicyclistmy SWD crit for 2599, i pulled aggro and died instantly
17:19.57RaydenUnicyclistit was beautiful
17:20.02Tornhoofapparently was that new hide duplicates -> bags option ;)
17:20.05[dRaCo]^^"
17:20.23[dRaCo]RaydenUnicyclist: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rxMhzhZZxGxzMxRhtEo would be my way of speccing shadow
17:20.30[dRaCo]not tested, though :)
17:20.39Yssarilis there a function to check if an item is bop or do i ahve to scan the tooltip?
17:20.48RaydenUnicyclist[dRaCo] no blackout?
17:21.04pastamancerblackout is for pvp
17:21.10RaydenUnicyclistand no silence? i find silence is very useful in dungeons for pulling those caster that are too close to something dangerous
17:21.16pastamancerspirit tap is for farming
17:21.25[dRaCo]should have mentioned it's a raid spec :/
17:21.42[dRaCo]RaydenUnicyclist: in case you didnt notice, it's a raid spec ;)
17:21.43RaydenUnicyclisti'm doing 5 mans right now
17:21.50RaydenUnicyclisti'm just discussing
17:21.54RaydenUnicyclistnot pulling it apart
17:22.01RaydenUnicyclisttrying to mix my knowledge with what you chose
17:22.10[dRaCo]for 5 mans silence is ok, blackout even better
17:22.13pastamanceroh, you sould go 14/0/whatever and get imp fort
17:22.27pastamancerif you're doing 5-mans that is
17:22.27Yssarilspirit tap only procs if you kill the target as such it will almost never proc in a raid
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17:22.44[dRaCo]sure, but blackout annoys the hell outta your tanks.
17:22.52cncfanaticsindeed it does
17:22.55RaydenUnicyclistwhy?
17:22.56cncfanaticshate that thing
17:23.09cncfanaticsstun = not getting hit = no mana back (or rage if ur a warrior/druid)
17:23.32cncfanaticsoh, and as pala I do about 300 reflective dmg each time I get hit, wont do that either if they're stunned
17:23.33pastamancerI've had blackout screw up what would have been otherwise beautiful pulls
17:23.39[dRaCo]and if you have to move, a stunned mob sucks.
17:24.14Yssarilyea neither of the tier1 talents are any good for raiding :P
17:24.19pastamanceralso, sw:d is great for kill-sniping int 5-mans to trigger spirit tap
17:24.23RaydenUnicyclistunbreakable vs wand? i seem to use wand a lot when i farm and its useful in 5 mans once i've thrown up some dots on trash
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17:24.36pastamancerresisting fear is usually a bad thing in pve
17:24.42RaydenUnicyclistyeah...
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17:24.56[dRaCo]aight, good point
17:24.58RaydenUnicyclistalthough i find i'm often outside of the fear range anyways
17:25.07[dRaCo]so wand > unbreakable
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17:25.53RaydenUnicyclistworth dropping 3 points to get 2 points of mental agility?
17:26.07RaydenUnicyclistmakes VE cost... 21 mana instead of 25
17:26.10RaydenUnicyclistor something like that
17:26.10[dRaCo]imo not
17:26.15RaydenUnicyclist:D
17:26.30[dRaCo]my new and kinda improved 5 man spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVMhzhZZxGgzMtRhtAo;)
17:26.46RaydenUnicyclisthttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVMhzhZZxGgzMtRhtAo
17:26.47RaydenUnicyclistwhat i got
17:26.51RaydenUnicyclisthmm
17:26.53RaydenUnicyclistthat's odd
17:27.02[dRaCo]same
17:27.08RaydenUnicyclistdid we build the same one? or bug
17:27.20[dRaCo]we built the same one.
17:27.37RaydenUnicyclistawesome
17:27.52pastamancerhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVG0zhZZxGguMtRhtVo is how I'd be tempted to respec if I was doing more 5-mans
17:28.26pastamancerimp pw:s is pretty useless
17:28.52RaydenUnicyclistsilent resolve?
17:28.55NeoTronhmm. 6/34/21, 9/31/21, 0/40/21. gah can't decide.
17:29.17[dRaCo]I like it, nobody dispells in pve anyway
17:29.18pastamancerin 5-mans you might end up healing if the main healer dies
17:29.40RaydenUnicyclistthreat reduction for something that happens maybe 10% of the time?
17:29.56pastamancer*shrug* imp pws ends up being like 100 damage
17:30.12RaydenUnicyclistyeah pws sucks these days
17:30.32Thrae!vs us lightninghoof cupcakes us lightninghoof citzii
17:30.40ThraeBotThrae: Cupcakes vs Citzii! Cupcakes has +21 lvls on Citzii (60 vs 39); A L60 rogue and a L39 warlock square off!; 41/0/5 vs 30/0/0; Citzii wins by 75 TBRs!
17:30.46ThraeAnd people wonder why there are so many complaints about twinks.
17:30.56pastamancerimp mb > shadow power too
17:31.35NeoTronunlikely
17:31.39pastamancerunless the tanks you group with really suck, you can keep MB on cooldown without pulling aggro, and you'll have plenty of time ot drink even in heroics
17:31.42NeoTronbut I haven't theory crafted
17:31.58NeoTronbut shadow power affects sw:d too
17:32.17pastamancerwhich now has an even longer cooldown
17:32.19NeoTronand if it's for 5-mans why spec so deep into disc ?
17:32.29NeoTrondo the math on meditation, it's pretty useless
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17:32.40pastamancermeditation ends up being 30 mp5 or so for me
17:32.44ThraeI always meditate when I do math.
17:32.45NeoTrona shadow priest won't really have any spirit
17:32.59ThraeFor some reason, I keep getting 0 when I meditate on math.
17:33.02NeoTronblackout is also a lot better than spirit tap unless it's a solo grind spec
17:33.18pastamancerI can't stand blackout in pve
17:33.20Corussspirit tap is useless for grouping, it's meant for levelling
17:33.33Corussits way too unreliable for 5 points
17:33.33NeoTronblackout is the bomb on vashj
17:33.46Corussit actually works on a boss?
17:33.48Corusswow...
17:33.51Funkeh`loes
17:34.45cncfanaticsif the boss aint stun immune, works like every other stun
17:34.50cncfanaticsI do think he means vasj adds though
17:34.59Corussaah
17:35.03NeoTronit works on the striders
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17:35.17NeoTronstriders has a aoe fear aura and has to be kited
17:35.26NeoTronanything that helps it not move is great
17:36.04NeoTrononly fight where regular use of tailoring nets make sense
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17:36.19Corussthe points in silent resolve don't make sense
17:36.24NeoTronalthough with a shaman kiting it was pretty swell
17:36.33Corusswhy lower the threat gen of holy/disc if you're dpsing with shadow
17:37.05CorussI wouldn't go more than 11 points into disc with a shadow spec
17:37.28NeoTron11 disc is good for SP
17:37.46CIA-1403ammo * r47205 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: add fade and dispel messages. Might spam the fook out of you since there is no real way to differntiate from friendly players not in your group and enemies/mobs.
17:39.21Corusswand spec, 3 in unbreakable will, 2 in imp fort, and inner focus
17:40.37pastamancerI've always seen unbreakable will as causing trouble in pve
17:40.54Corussmaybe in a 5man
17:41.13Corussin a larger raid if there's a group fear you can either dispel the fear or someone else will resist it too
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17:47.33TNZehmm
17:47.39TNZeOmen takes some time to get used to
17:47.47TNZeand my shadowfiend is stuck on global threat :(
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17:53.02CIA-1403ulic * r47206 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua: LittleWigs: HellfireCitadel/Omor- Aura fix
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18:03.49[dRaCo]there used to be this addon giving you some lines to align your interface elements... does anyone remember the name?
18:04.17pastamanceralign?
18:04.25Shadowed|MoveAnything?
18:04.27pastamancerit's on wowi
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18:05.55[dRaCo]ah, thanks, pastamancer
18:06.03Toufashello can someone recommend me a mt target addon ,as pitbull doesnt seem to be showing them?
18:06.18[dRaCo]ora2
18:06.26NeoTronora2 is nice for that
18:06.28[dRaCo]but pitbull shows them
18:06.34NeoTronprefer ora2's over xperls at least
18:06.36[dRaCo]when you use blizz' system, that is
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18:13.23NatikraI would just set the MT as focus with /focus target
18:13.31NatikraThen use the focus target in pitbull
18:16.05TNZeLMAO
18:16.15TNZea sheep right befor elootreaver
18:16.20TNZewalked into another group and chainpulled
18:16.25TNZeand then ANOTHER group
18:16.31TNZeworst randomness EVER
18:16.46Toufasand how can i move bigwigs frames? :x
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18:19.24Toufasi mean resize them, coz they are huge
18:19.29Toufasand scale doesnt seem to affect them
18:20.01Toufason the emphasized bars
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18:28.18Kadrahilhey it's that dwarf priest guy from my server
18:28.34KadrahilJoshBorke: :D
18:28.38JoshBorkehi
18:28.39KadrahilJoshBorke: <- jme
18:28.43JoshBorkeoh noes
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18:30.24KadrahilJoshBorke: some nub shadow priest attacked me at the EP last night, he died very quickly
18:30.38JoshBorkelol
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18:31.26Corusslittlewigs?
18:31.46Kadrahili hear [Ammo] wears them
18:33.37ulichehe
18:34.03ulicCoruss: BigWigs for 5-mans
18:34.21ulicjust additional "modules"
18:34.43Corussaah
18:35.00ulicsince blizzard finally made some decent encounters in 5-mans
18:35.05Corussya
18:35.18Corussmight be worth making a HeroicWigs
18:35.30Corusshandle the added abilities in heroic mode
18:35.37Kadrahilulic: should actually /rw the party if you're the leader with the boss warnings, imo
18:35.39ulicit's got some differences built-in already
18:35.39kergothCoruss, littlewigs already does that.
18:35.46Corusseven better
18:36.22ulicalot of bosses are the same, but some do change, like Capitous or however you spell it :)
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18:36.43ulicKadrahil: it should do that I think.  Doesn't it?
18:37.06ulicif it doesn't, it's a problem with /rw in parties in bigwigs then :)
18:37.20Kadrahilulic: hm.
18:37.30kergothworks fine if you enable it, afaik
18:37.43kergothlook at the messages module configuration
18:37.44Kadrahilyou have to actually enable the /rw broadcast?
18:38.07ulicin parties ANYONE can /rw, so you don't even have to have the leader run it.
18:38.07Kadrahili'll check it out tonight, thanks for that
18:38.11Kadrahilyeah.
18:38.30Kadrahilnobody was seeing the littlewigs /rw messages last time i tried it out
18:38.50Kadrahili did like how it gave someone the skull when they got murmer's touch, so it made it more obvious to them
18:39.03Kadrahilmurmur.. whatever
18:39.13ulicI don't even know what my settings are set, I know I personally see rw style message, my just be bigwigs not actual rw though.
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18:39.25Kadrahilok
18:39.41ulicKadrahil: Omar aura get's iconed too.
18:39.54ulicthey've got the plague, run away!
18:40.03Kadrahil:o
18:40.24Kadrahili wonder if it gives someone an icon when they start exploding when you're fighting shade trash
18:40.35Kadrahilor curator trash, or whichever trash it is that makes you arcane explode
18:41.03ulicI dunno, as that would be in bigwigs proper and my guild hasn't made it to kara yet :)
18:41.11Kadrahilahh
18:41.12Kadrahilyeah
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18:48.46Kodek[WoW]ummm... good evening...
18:49.03Kodek[WoW]or... maybe morning...
18:49.13Kodek[WoW]is there anybody alive?
18:49.27Kadrahilpossibly
18:49.31Corussno
18:49.34evlis there anyway to alude the randomness of hydross?
18:49.34evl[20:48] <evl> WHAM he's poison again
18:49.35Corusswe're all undead here
18:49.41evlpoop boss
18:49.47Kodek[WoW]im have a troubles with installing wowace T_T
18:49.50Yssarilis there a function to check if an item is bop or do i have to scan the tooltip?
18:50.59ulicYssaril: I believe IsEquipable says false if it's not bound.
18:50.59kebinusanevl: randomness?
18:51.14ulicnot sure that's what you need but....
18:51.21Yssarilk will try that
18:51.33evlhe just keeps going poison
18:51.35evlafter we switch him
18:51.38evlthere has to be something the tanks can do
18:51.39ulicdouble check the function name, but it should be something like that.
18:51.42kebinusanBest thing to do is make sure any dps or idiot healer who uses hots is moving to the right side of the flags as the tank transitions hydross so no one pulls him back across the transition point
18:51.50Yssarilits close enough :P
18:52.26kebinusanId also suggest your tanks strafe him across the transition point instead of back him across if they are doing that
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19:04.27NeoTronIf there's one thing hydross isn't, it's random
19:04.47Fisker-he's random 100
19:04.57Kadrahilrandom 999999
19:05.12uliche's consistently random?
19:06.46NeoTronif he keeps switching back it's because someone pulled aggro as kebinusan said
19:07.10NeoTronhots, dots, health stones, mana and health potions, shots/bolts in-air hitting after the switch et
19:07.29NeoTrontwo hunters misdirecting can be incredibly useful here
19:07.53dodgaHm, noob question inc... what's the difference between TPS and E-TPS in Omen?
19:08.03Aens|Superioritydont even need MD. Just need your retarded casters to not be casting anything when the switch starts.
19:08.25Aens|Superioritywe've wiped cause of a fireball dot once
19:08.27NeoTronAens|Superiority: for sure but MD helps
19:08.27KadrahilDear retarted casters. L2notcastduringswitch, kthx.
19:08.37kebinusanI blame the hunters
19:08.46NeoTronwe've had hunters pull more than once...
19:08.47kebinusan:-)
19:08.50Kadrahileveryone always blames us :/
19:08.56NeoTronnot just during transitions but during mid-fights
19:09.00Kadrahilwell, that isn't true really
19:09.58NeoTronif a hunter pulls aggro he needs to be bitchslapped :P
19:10.00NeoTronl2fd
19:10.09Mudkips"it got resisted twice"
19:10.11Mudkipsdur dur dur
19:10.26NeoTronthen it might be a good idea to stop dps :P
19:10.32durcyni'll stop blaming hunters for shit when i stop seeing serpent sting on raid bosses.
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19:11.25kergothhttp://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/currentui-20070815-inraid.png.html opinion? think maybe i should have errormonster throttle, i dont need to see a long string of out of range to knwo i'm out of range
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19:12.08kebinusanYeah if a warrior gets a bad parry or dodge string you will probably see things like that... if you aoe the adds you should be so far ahead on the enrage timer its just a matter of asking idiots to stop pewpewing for 10 seconds
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19:13.00Kadrahildurcyn: :o
19:13.12cryogenmy idiots resent being called idiots :(
19:13.22kergothlol
19:13.32cryogenwhich kinda conflicts with my enjoyment of calling idiots idiots
19:13.39kebinusaninstruction impaired
19:13.57durcyni usually go with "doorknob-humping retards"
19:14.00Kadrahildurcyn: what's bad about serpent sting?
19:14.16cryogeni just stop on 'retards'
19:14.34cryogenbut then i get about 100 /ws saying "you cant call people retards!"
19:14.53cryogeninteresting conversations usually follow
19:15.12Mudkipsserpent sting isn't good loldps and it takes up precious debuff slots
19:15.19NeoTronthey should just make all raid item drops pretty much be tokens
19:15.21NeoTronat least armor
19:15.34KadrahilMudkips: ah
19:15.38cryogenin my guild before tbc loads of people gquit because i called them retards
19:15.39NeoTronhaving little/no druid / elemental shaman gear drop is a bummer
19:15.40KadrahilMudkips: i never thought about it that way
19:15.44cryogenwhich was good in a way, since they were retards
19:15.50KadrahilMudkips: and i play a hunter :X
19:15.50kergothwhats the max # of debuffs nowadays? 40 or something?
19:15.54Mudkips40
19:15.56NeoTronbut I'd hate disenchanting the crap after the 1-2 people that needs it got it
19:16.28MudkipsNeotron, its a lot better now that it used to be
19:16.34NeoTronnot really
19:16.35kebinusan40 is too low
19:16.40Mudkipsyes it has
19:16.41kebinusanbut alas, I remember the good ole 8 debuff limits
19:16.48durcynKadrahil: totally useless low dps debuff-slot-wasting bullshit
19:16.52Mudkipsdon't deny it Neotron
19:16.56Kadrahildurcyn: yeah, gotcha
19:17.02NeoTrontheer's really no balance mooonkin gear available
19:17.13Kadrahildurcyn: i don't use it a whole lot, but yeah
19:17.34NeoTronthey need balanced drop percentage chances,tokens or something
19:17.44NeoTrondunno how many times we've DE'd the stupid healing leather piece from gruul
19:17.50Kadrahildoes scorpid sting actually help any?
19:17.51Mudkipsso this is based on balance moonkin gear?
19:17.51durcynKadrahil: it's ok for levelling and soloing, maybe even 5 mans, but it's totally inappropriate for raid bosses
19:18.04NeoTronprimaril mail/leahter offspec gear
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19:18.10Mudkipsthat's a fair comparison seeing as moonkin spec isn't a popular build
19:18.21Mudkipsthats not a fair**
19:18.30AmadeoYour mom's a fair
19:18.32NeoTronthe problem I'm laying out is that IF you add more offspec gear, it will make everyone else suffer
19:18.42NeoTronunless you use tokens or a balanced/smart drop system
19:18.59Kadrahildurcyn: does scorpid sting help at all?
19:18.59NeoTrontoday cloth gear is used by leather/mail uses
19:19.09NeoTronwhich keeps the risk for DE low
19:19.26Kadrahildurcyn: note my raiding experience is limited to kara and gruul
19:19.37cryogenjust add another loot drop to bosses
19:19.40cryogenfor off spec drops :p
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19:19.59cryogenso they drop 2 tokens 1 epic and 1 off epic
19:20.36Megalonbut tokens are already off spec drops ;c
19:20.58cryogenso then you have 1 of each
19:21.00cryogenfair!
19:21.32Megalon;D
19:22.02Mudkipsya seriously
19:22.26Mudkipst4 t5 and t6 all can be turned into different gear for hybrid classes
19:22.44MudkipsI forgot that for a moment
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19:24.00NeoTronMegalon: yeah but tokens is just 5 pieces
19:24.24NeoTronand typically the non-token drops often ar better than the tier sets
19:24.31cryogenand random epics are fun for all the family
19:24.41Mudkipsthats asking a bit too much
19:24.53jmeNeoTron: but the tier sets look so hawt
19:25.03NeoTronyep
19:25.03Mudkipsdrops were never made to be consistent
19:25.06Mudkipsits like the lottery
19:25.09NeoTronI am going for 4 T5
19:25.10Mudkipssometimes you win sometimes you lose
19:25.18NeoTronmost of the time you lose it seems
19:25.20jmeNeoTron: i am in 2 T4 atm :(
19:25.21Mudkipsyes
19:25.25Mudkipslike the lottery :(
19:25.35NeoTronit's really a bummber now more so than every because you really tend to move along faster
19:25.43NeoTronwe already don't do gruul and mags (offnight sometimes)
19:25.51NeoTronand within a month probably barely won't do SSC/TK
19:25.55NeoTronfew people will get their tier sets
19:26.03NeoTronI need my head piece from vashj, that's it
19:26.11NeoTronbut I might not get it
19:26.20AmadeoWho has spare 144pin SDRAM? :P
19:26.26jmeyou know you want it
19:26.29NeoTronit's a pretty sick set bonus - 10% more dps kind of a bonus
19:26.48jmeNeoTron: i like the hunter t5/t6 steady shot set bonus
19:27.08Fisker-yay
19:27.10jmeT4... multishot bonus is like, uhh
19:27.13Fisker-i has a fel reaver's piston
19:27.20jmeI USE MULTISHOT IN RAIDS YES
19:27.29jme:X
19:27.36cryogenwhat good hunter wouldnt!
19:27.46NeoTronjme: ... of cours eyou do?
19:27.51jmeyes!
19:28.06NeoTroncan't say if you're sarcastic but.. alas
19:28.21jmei actually just spam steady shot, auto shot,  and kill command
19:28.28jmeand still top dps
19:29.11durcynjme: "Polymorph on foo removed by Jme's Multi-Shot"
19:29.23jmedurcyn: yeah, i don't use it on trash :p
19:29.39jmewell, nightbane skellies
19:30.24jmemultishot crit, OH CRAP FEIGN DEATH
19:32.07Qaarhuh what the..? Baggins stopped working all of a sudden?
19:32.52Fisker-nice
19:32.56Fisker-240 mp5 atm
19:33.01Fisker-raidbuffed
19:33.27kebinusanHunters are so bad, gee I have a free threat wipe every 30 seconds.. instead I wait until the mob actually targets me before using it
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19:35.00Brunerskebinusan: well, hopefully you can continue dpsing without doing that
19:35.35Keyawe have a hunter that was actually moaning cause we wanted him to use Scorpid sting instead of Serpent Sting...
19:35.53Keya*sigh*
19:36.12Keyaand he does ~400 dps total over a raiding evening
19:36.59Zicon400? My healing-specced priest can do better DPS than that. :P
19:37.25Keyayep he's rivaling our feral druid tanks
19:37.44Zicon(about ~500 sustained; I've checked)
19:38.05kebinusanyeah we have a hunter who pretty regularly gets beat out by the prot warrior tanking
19:38.26Gngskshot rotations are hard :(
19:38.46Keyawhy are there so many terrible hunters - I don't know a single other class that has such a high percentage of terrible players
19:38.56AmadeoGngsk: yeah, eventually you just pass out!
19:39.09Gngskprolly cuz they didn't level up with a swing timer
19:39.58Keyayeah you could blame blizz for making leveling hunters so easy :D
19:41.11Corussby and large hunters level solo
19:41.13Corussbecause they can
19:41.30Corussthen when they get into groups, they end up doing **** all b/c they're not used to it
19:42.07genetik-http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t15164-hunter_psyche_why_so_many_just_dont_get/
19:42.10genetik-decent discussion about hunters
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19:42.37ulicis there a thread like that for warriors, I have a warrior I need to teach out to be a warrior.
19:42.46ulics/out/how
19:43.30genetik-did you look? heh
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19:44.04CIA-1403athou * r47207 10FuBar_ButtonSmashFu/FuBar_ButtonSmashFu.lua:
19:44.04CIA-14FuBar_ButtonSmashFu:
19:44.04CIA-14- icons bugfixing
19:44.06ulicno, I can't read that fast :)
19:44.10ulicguess I will.
19:47.30Funkeh`does chat msg addon do officer?
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19:49.15CIA-1403Tristan * r47208 10Enhancer/bonus/EP.lua:
19:49.15CIA-14Enhancer:
19:49.15CIA-14- Bug: If BestGem manages to find a link it'll always link the same gem for normal and BoK gem. Fixed
19:49.20ulicFunkeh`: you mean SendAddonMessage?
19:49.56Funkeh`yes sorry
19:50.03ulicwowwiki says no
19:50.19uliconly, party, raid, guild, battleground, whisper
19:51.06Funkeh`Yeah read that was wondering if it was out of date
19:51.32NeoTronhunters can dps well but it takes effort to do so (nd mana)
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19:56.04Mikkhunters can do INSANE dps
19:56.14MikkBM hunters need a big effin nerf if you ask me
19:56.53Mikkwe've got a sword rogue that's outdpsing bloody everyone by miles
19:56.57Mikkexcept for our BM hunter
19:57.01Mikkwho tops even him
19:57.02Mikknuts
19:57.15nevcairielsame here
19:57.18art3misyu must suck then
19:57.29nevcairielwe usually had our rogues on top of everything
19:57.36nevcairiellately a BM hunter climbed up there
19:57.38Mudkipsyour warlocks / other rogues must undergeared or extremely suck
19:57.46Mudkipsits not hard to beat hunters on damage output
19:57.52Mikkheh
19:57.53Mikkthat's what you'd think yeah
19:58.00Mudkipsthats what I KNOW
19:58.07nevcairielthats whats wrong
19:58.07Mikkbloody huntard is sustaining something like 1400 dps
19:58.17[Ammo]pet merged ofcourse
19:58.19nevcairiela good geared BM hunter can do insane dps
19:58.21nevcairielof course
19:58.38genetik-only if they have a good shot rotation
19:58.48[Ammo]which can be done with one macro
19:59.11genetik-a macro can't neccesarily prevent clipping their autoshot
19:59.29[Ammo]true
19:59.36[Ammo]but shot timers will
19:59.38[Ammo]etc
19:59.40[Ammo]somewhat
19:59.43genetik-which, from what i've read, is the number one reason for shitty hunter dps
19:59.46Mudkipsme dizzy need food
19:59.47Megalonthe top geared hunter on our server was beast mastery specced
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20:00.06genetik-i've been playing around with a pre-made hunter on the PTR to learn more about shot rotations and whatnot
20:00.07Megalonthen he transfered to kazzak to be beast mastery for Last Resort ;D
20:00.16genetik-it can get pretty complicated
20:00.33Megaloncomplicated to hit steady shot? :P
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20:02.38Mecdemortanything more than autoshot is too complicated for most hunters
20:06.41Qaarhmmkay, I'm definitely getting an error from Baggins.. Baggins.lua:1306: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
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20:07.15Qaarhfrom the WAU version, so it should be from the svn. Seems it has to do with duplicate items
20:07.43ckknighthey all
20:07.46ckknighthow's everyone doing today?
20:08.10Qaarhquite good, you?
20:08.35ckknightnifty
20:08.39ckknighttoday's my birthday
20:08.58jmehappy birthday then
20:09.22jme<3
20:09.31Qaarhhappy birthday, ck :)
20:09.41ulicand you're spending it with us?  How sweet.
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20:10.17Tornhoofqaarh, go baggins setup, find the duplicate config, change it from bag to global ;)
20:10.55QaarhTornhoof: Global does the same.
20:11.02Qaarhbut then it's line 1298 instead
20:11.04ckknightulic: I'm gonna go drive around a bit later
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20:11.19ckknightkergoth: you look at that contract stuff yet?
20:11.20Tornhoofi see, global fixed it here
20:12.01QaarhTornhoof: It fixed after a /reloadui...
20:12.05Tornhoofyeh
20:13.56ckknightI demand a parade
20:14.27CIA-1403ammo * r47209 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: stricter parser events for less spammage
20:14.38Kemayockknight: Happy birthday... what did you get us?
20:14.49ckknighta new addon framework!
20:15.22ckknight:-P
20:16.24ulicis it the same one that Timmy got?  If it's not then it's not good enough.
20:16.34*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began | check out #wowace-cia for realtime commit log | Today is ckknight's birthday and he demands a parade
20:16.56QaarhHehe
20:18.34ckknightlol
20:18.52CIA-1403ammo * r47210 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: disable fade event until I can figure out what to do with it
20:19.15AmadeoHe means male night elf
20:19.24ZiconNo, she means female.
20:20.26AmadeoI forgot, nobody plays males :P
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20:21.49pb_ee1Hum... why do I have no BigWigsmessage at all on A'lar?
20:22.01nevcairielthere is nothing in p1
20:22.06nevcairielbut meteor in p2
20:22.09nevcairieland enrage
20:22.27pb_ee1Hum... wrong, in P1 there is a fixed timer when A'lar changes platform
20:22.55pb_ee1at least, DBM shows it
20:23.20pb_ee1-at least
20:23.44Mudkipswow
20:23.53nevcairielnot like thats important now
20:23.53MudkipsI've never been this dizzy from no food
20:23.54[Ammo]it's random 30-40 seconds
20:23.55nevcairiell2p
20:23.55nevcairiel:P
20:24.10nevcairielp1 on alar is like spank only
20:24.13nevcairieldont even tank!
20:24.21nevcairielonly tank proximity
20:24.22nevcairielhehe
20:24.24Mudkipshey I tank
20:24.30pb_ee1between 25 and 30 :p
20:24.39Mudkipsits my job to collect adds and suicide in p2
20:26.18pb_ee1well actually i don't use it
20:26.33pb_ee1but i know a few people are using dbm for a'lar because bigwigs does not display these bars
20:26.40AmadeoWhat does this mean on Curse? "This project and its downloads are currently unavailable while our moderators investigate it based on user reports."
20:26.47AmadeoIs that a standard thing, or something is up?
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20:27.21ulicit means they make us look bad :(
20:27.36ulicthey do that if the zip file has like a .bat or .exe, maybe other reasons.
20:27.45AmadeoI see
20:27.48ulicso mean while users think authors are evil
20:27.50nevcairielAmadeo: something marked it
20:28.05ulicof course I'd imagine it would say that if it was an actual user report as well :)
20:28.12AmadeoIt was for NECB
20:28.18AmadeoWhich I am looking to replace
20:28.31Funkeh`BigWigs displays bars on Al'ar fine
20:28.35Funkeh`Retards can't see them it seems
20:28.37ulicmy guess is that it was recently updated, and that's why it's 'on hold'.
20:28.40Funkeh`I just did Al'ar 5min ago
20:28.49Amadeoulic: That was my guess also, but I haven't used Curse in a long time
20:29.02nevcairielbut not for platform switch in phase1, or Funkeh`?
20:29.04[Ammo]Funkeh`: he complains about missing movement bars for p1 platform changes
20:29.09[Ammo]not like that is important
20:29.11Funkeh`lol?
20:29.19ulichappened to me with LittleWigs, I emailed them, but I never heard back.
20:29.23Funkeh`How does that change the course of the fight sorry?
20:29.24nevcairielwe told him thats not needed
20:29.30Funkeh`More like a gimic.
20:30.11nevcairielbut i guess La Vendetta needs them to kill Alar =P (did they rename the guild with the bossmod too anyway?)
20:30.46CIA-1403saroz * r47211 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: Ammo must be coding something else than LUA
20:30.53nevcairiellol
20:31.10nevcairielits Lua damnit!
20:31.10nevcairiel:p
20:31.15[Ammo]yeah it's lua
20:31.38durcynthat's just saroz yelling
20:31.41[Ammo]oh yeah // is no comment :)
20:31.43[Ammo]haha
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20:31.45nevcairiellol
20:31.49nevcairielthere he is!
20:31.53[Ammo]rofl
20:31.55SarozAmmo fgs
20:31.57Sarozwtf you smoking man
20:32.01[Ammo]weed
20:32.03[Ammo]I live in .nl
20:32.04Saroz:p
20:32.09Sarozahhhh nuff said
20:32.34nevcairieli guess we all need to visit ammo at some point
20:32.43nevcairielits only like 2h to the border anyway
20:33.06[Ammo]and I live close to the border :)
20:33.08Amadeowtf
20:33.09Amadeohttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html
20:33.12Amadeolol
20:33.25nevcairiellol
20:33.46dreamss2shiet
20:33.53dreamss2how u gonna hit the pvp trinekt then
20:34.03[Ammo]you don't!
20:34.07[Ammo]but a least you won't panic
20:34.13AKXI like that. :D
20:34.22nevcairielyou still see your action bars
20:34.28nevcairiellook at the screenshot ffs :P
20:34.40dreamss2i did
20:34.51pb_ee1sorry I was in fight
20:35.01nevcairieloh a mikma addon, why am i not surprised :P
20:35.53pb_ee1again, Funkeh`, [Ammo], nevcairiel, i'm not complaining about anything, i'm just telling you what other users say. if you don't think it should be added to bigwigs, it's your choice, not mine. i still think it's just too bad to be strict on a so simple thing ;)
20:36.15Shadowed|If you add 500 simple things, then it becomes a big useless simple thing =)
20:36.35durcyndbm seriously has timers for tank positioning on alar?
20:36.39[Ammo]I hold a pretty strict 'NO' policy for bigwigs
20:36.42durcynthat's amazingly stupid
20:36.54nevcairielwhen we encounterd alar the first time i wondered why bigwigs isnt showing anything in p1
20:37.01nevcairielbut then i figured it, it doesnt have to :P
20:37.02[Ammo]and there's only 3 people allowed coding without consult basically
20:37.09pb_ee1I don't feel that it needs to be added, again :p just telling you what other users say
20:37.20ckknight[Ammo]: am I in the list?
20:37.38ckknight:-P
20:37.41nevcairieleven i could answer that :P
20:37.49pb_ee1no worries, [Ammo]. I won't touch the code before asking if i can do so
20:38.07[Ammo]ckknight: you are not in the list
20:38.13ckknightlamer :-P
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20:38.15ckknightbut I understand
20:38.21ckknightI don't plan on hacking it anyway
20:38.25ckknightsince I don't have raiding experience
20:38.30ckknightwhich is the general breakdown
20:38.42ckknighti.e. why none of my addons are raid-specific
20:38.42AmadeoI installed BigWigs but I can't change my hairstyle, what's wrong!?
20:38.57durcynhairstyles aren't patched in yet, bucko!
20:39.01Amadeooh, damn!
20:39.02ckknightyou forgot to wipe your WTF folder, Amadeo
20:39.09AmadeoWhat should I wipe it with?
20:39.53snurrehttp://www.moanmyip.com/ lol wtf
20:39.59ckknightnapkins
20:40.09*** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ
20:40.14Amadeoall I have is an empty diet coke can, will that work?
20:40.39mikmanevcairiel: :P
20:41.00mikmabtw, i tested JJ200.. in PvP and PvE.. now it seems to work like a charm
20:41.14mikmagot feared and all i saw was "Don't Panic"
20:41.20ckknightAmadeo: sure, go nuts
20:41.22ckknightgonna shower
20:41.23mikmatry not to laugh when that happens
20:41.25durcynmikma: that's pretty swell
20:41.52mikmathe most nasty thing is you can't even see the minimap lol
20:42.33kergothyou shoudl fix that, minimap would be good
20:42.39mikmanah
20:42.43mikmathen you can see where you are going
20:43.10genetik-that'd be awesome for the second boss in shadow labyrinth
20:43.10genetik-haha
20:44.54mikmahmm, i'm not quite sure will it work with that boss
20:45.21genetik-does it react to a list of debuffs? i haven't looked at the code yet
20:45.45mikmano. it just reacts to 2 things. CombatLockdown and player_lost_control
20:45.50genetik-ah
20:45.59mikmaif the boss fires that event, then it will work
20:46.15[Ammo]well you won't have control :
20:46.34mikmabut will the event be fired :) that's another thing
20:46.43RaydenUnicyclistwhat is "Rittsyn's" ? some misspelled KZ spellcaster drop
20:47.33NeoTronshadow dmg necklace
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20:47.39RaydenUnicyclistwhat is the name?
20:47.42RaydenUnicyclisti can't find it on wowhead
20:47.58[Ammo]lost pendabt
20:48.00[Ammo]pendant
20:48.02mikmadreamss2: of course you can use the pvp tricket with my mod :) i've tested that already. WorldFrame has really low framelevel and my mod uses that +1 (it's still pretty low so all windows and such will open over the black frame)
20:48.11RaydenUnicyclistritssyn's
20:48.17RaydenUnicyclistyeah i want that
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20:48.33[Ammo]great affliction pendant
20:49.30RaydenUnicyclist<- shadow priest
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20:52.32CIA-1403jwensley2 * r47212 10MageAnnounce/ (Locale-enUS.lua MageAnnounce.lua MageAnnounce.toc):
20:52.32CIA-14MageAnnounce:
20:52.32CIA-14- Added option to enable in BGs
20:52.32CIA-14- Fix for Counterspell
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20:54.40pb_ee1Does Violation still saves out of combat data?
20:54.44pb_ee1save *
20:55.02pb_ee1I'm using Recount but my computer can't manage so much memory usage
20:55.55sbget more memory ;p
20:57.34pb_ee1On my normal computer yeah, but i will be playing on my laptop until october
20:57.43pb_ee1too expensive
20:57.50sbmh okay
20:58.01pb_ee1What about the ooc data of Violation? ;)=
20:59.03[Ammo]short answer: nope
20:59.27pb_ee1so it will display only in combat data?
20:59.39[Ammo]ofcourse not
20:59.58pb_ee1xD ?
21:00.23pb_ee1actually i'd like to have the overall only in combat healing data
21:00.37[Ammo]someone wrote a module for that
21:00.39[Ammo]it's on svn
21:01.11pb_ee1why does violation also saves data made when not in combat?
21:01.24[Ammo]because it's coded that way
21:01.26pb_ee1I really don't understand the point of doing this
21:02.52genetik-when you're not in combat, someone else might be
21:02.53CIA-1403gits * r47213 10Acolyte2/core.lua:
21:02.53CIA-14Acolyte2:
21:02.53CIA-14- target name when casting should now be correct
21:03.17[Ammo]that's not the reason
21:03.20genetik-heh
21:03.37pb_ee1in a raid, if someone is in combat, everybody is in combat anyway
21:04.00[Ammo]just set it to reset on combat start
21:04.11Arrowmasternot always
21:04.46pb_ee1how about the overall data? impossible to save it then
21:04.52Arrowmasterwhich is why the effectivehealing module changed from checking the players combat state to checking the target and source of the heals combat state
21:04.53pb_ee1I'll give a try to the effectiveHealing module
21:05.12pb_ee1recount uses too much memory
21:05.23pb_ee1it uses itself more memory than all of my other addons
21:05.38pb_ee1even if recount is really an awesome tool :|
21:06.07CryectHeh, I hope to address that more in Recount 2
21:06.26[dRaCo]recount 2?
21:06.33genetik-rerecount
21:06.35genetik-heh
21:06.40[dRaCo]1 isnt out of beta yet, is it?
21:08.03CryectKinda is
21:09.23pb_ee1Cryect, i'll use recount again on my "big" computer (2Go RAM), but Recount is not recommended for only 768Mo of RAM :/
21:09.32CryectI will agree with that
21:09.39pb_ee1Violation does not seem to record data the way I want
21:09.48pb_ee1I suppose i'll have to go back on SW Stats
21:09.51pb_ee1Grumpf
21:09.56Arrowmasterhow do you 'want'?
21:10.42cc-workdoes reducing amount of mods you run increase your FPS? i'm constantly only running at 15fps..or 8-10 during boss encounters..
21:10.57Arrowmasterno
21:10.58pb_ee1only ooc data, but if it isn't the way the author wants to do it, i won't ask him to do it ;)
21:11.06kergothCryect, you said that the graph window shows dps.. i'm not seeing that, even with integrate turned off.. where is it?  i must be missing it
21:11.08Arrowmasteronly ooc?
21:11.15pb_ee1only non-ooc sorry ;p
21:11.22[dRaCo]well, depends on the mods u are using
21:11.23Cryectwhat do you mean you are missing it?
21:11.28Cryectthe line for Damage is DPS
21:11.29Arrowmasterpb_ee1: use violation_effectivehealing
21:11.32cc-workneed something to increase FPS...have a Radeon X800 videocard
21:11.42pb_ee1what about people killing rats with pyroblasts?
21:12.15Arrowmasterwell if theyre in combat whats it matter?
21:12.23Arrowmasterwouldnt swstats record that too
21:12.43Cryectkergoth: is the damage line not there or somethign?
21:12.48kergothohh, i'm blind. i thought that was total damage :)
21:12.58kergothokay, thats cool
21:13.08Cryectits only total damage if you integrate :-p
21:13.19kergothright right, makes sense
21:14.06NeoTronone of our MT's now has three internet connections.. cable (new, got because dsl didn't work), DSL and clearwire >:-)
21:15.13Diaoo_O
21:15.18Diaoand pays for all 3?
21:16.09Xueriancc-work: More things than your card affect fps. What is your cpu, your ram, for the most obvious?
21:16.14Xuerianer
21:16.18Xuerian.. fps than card.
21:16.30XuerianXD
21:16.48jmeXuerian needs brain <-- fixed
21:17.03pb_ee1Arrowmaster: right. the killing rats with pyroblasts thing was stupid.
21:17.26Cryectpb_ee1: heh new version of recount shouldn't record that :-p
21:17.37Cryectbut it mattered there for a nother reason
21:17.42pb_ee1Cryect, nice, you're doing an amasing job ;)
21:17.44Cryectfor people trying to look at last fights
21:17.52pb_ee1I'll give a try to violating
21:17.53jmefor a sec there i read that as "an amusing job"
21:17.53pb_ee1First.
21:17.56ArrowmasterNeoTron: one of our warriors has 3+ isps too that he sometimes switches between mid raid
21:18.02jmeXuerian: BURN!
21:18.04pb_ee1And give feedback here if something bugs me
21:18.04jmeXuerian: :P
21:18.06CryectI rather do an amusing job than an amazing job
21:19.25ArrowmasterNeoTron: but his reason for having 3 isps is that they all suck since he lives on an small island in the atlantic
21:26.35pb_ee1Who does manage the development of WAU?
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21:31.47MecdemortAnyone know if the old Baggins section/bag configs used dewdrop or tablet?
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21:32.17kergothCryect, oh, you ever havea  chance to try out dashboard with recount?
21:32.30ennuilgGood grief, creating localisation files is the most dull thing in the world...
21:32.37RogueShadowmmm.  tonight or tomorrow i'm gonna work on getting wow to play well in ubuntu
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21:36.20ennuilgMecdmort: I don't know for sure, but in my memory it felt like Tablet rather than DewDrop.
21:39.32Mecdemortennuilg: i don't know exactly what tablet is, but it didnt seem like dewdrop
21:41.31CIA-1403Tristan * r47215 10Enhancer/ (Console.lua Localization.lua bonus/EP.lua bonus/EPGems.lua):
21:41.31CIA-14Enhancer:
21:41.31CIA-14- Bug fixed: The program that parses gems from wowhead.com for me missed a few gems last run for some reason so here's a new one
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21:42.03Mecdemortso fubar uses tablet for the main tooltip, and dewdrop for the rightclick options?
21:42.33MikkMecdemort: it used tablet for the big window and dewdrop for dropdown submenus
21:42.38jmeare hunter pets affected by stoned and shatter in the gruul fight?
21:42.47MikkMecdemort: correct
21:42.54Mikkjme: no
21:42.58Mikkafak
21:43.16cryogenthis was asked last night and was answered no quite decisvely
21:43.29jmei don't remember if it was me that asked it :P
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21:44.14jmeat least i don't think so... i was playin wow all last night
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21:49.28ennuilgWhich Babble module contains mob names? None look particularly likely to me unless I'm missing something.
21:51.01[Ammo]Babble-Boss contains the important ones
21:52.33ennuilgHmmm... So are things like "Crystalhide Basilisk" not translated in the non-English locales, or has Babble just not got a module for them yet?
21:53.16Mecdemorti dont think theres a module for random mobs
21:53.18Elkanothere is no BabbleMobs
21:53.32[Ammo]taht would be huge
21:53.40ennuilgFair enough. (lol - yes it would be)
21:56.19ulicI think in this internet age people don't laugh to themselves as much as we used to :)
21:56.35uliceveryone laughs out loud
21:57.46CIA-1403karls * r47216 10DKPmon_EPGP/ (epgp.lua localization.enUS.lua):
21:57.46CIA-14DKPmon_EPGP:
21:57.46CIA-14- Confirmation pop-up added when executing decay
21:57.46CIA-14- Added the ability to specify the cost of winning an item on a greed bid as a percent of winning the same item on a need bid.
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22:03.11dfdfi just installed catographer and catographer mining to my addons folder and i put the lua files from catographer databases into my saved variables folder but when i look at my map i don't see any ore nodes
22:03.24dfdfbut both addons are functioning because i can access their menus from the map
22:03.51dfdfi've follow all the instructions and install notes for the databases i read online and made sure to install the files when wow wasn't running but still i don't see any ore nodes
22:04.00dfdfcan anyone help me with this please?
22:04.42[dRaCo]sure u loaded the right profile?
22:04.47dfdfhmm
22:04.50dfdfit's in default
22:04.53ulicmining doesn't populate the map with data I don't believe
22:04.59ulicyou have to get the _data one for that.
22:05.06dfdfyeah i got both
22:05.13dfdfthe _data and _mining files
22:05.30ulicdid you check the menu to make sure the are enabled
22:05.34ulicthe Cart menu that is.
22:06.04dfdfwrong saved varialbles folder
22:06.24ulicI don't remember having to put anything into the SV folder
22:06.37dfdfi put them in C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\accountname\SavedVariables
22:07.11dfdfrather than C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\accountname\Khadgar\charactername
22:07.15dfdfi'll give it a try
22:07.23dfdfthanks [dRaCo]
22:07.24genetik-just a quick question since you didn't really specify: the nodes don't show up on your map after you mine a node?
22:07.34dfdfoh they do
22:07.44dfdfbut i want the prebuilt database of nodes to appear
22:07.55dfdfulic - sounds like you didn't install the prebuilt database?
22:07.56dfdfbrb
22:08.44ulicI did, I have about a bazillion herb and mining nodes :)
22:12.35dfdfand you didn't put lua files in the saved variables folder?
22:12.50dfdfi have the lua files in both saved variables folders and i've tried all profiles
22:12.58ulicI don't remember doing that.
22:13.01dfdfstill no nodes only the one i mined since installing :(
22:13.21cncfanaticsg'night people
22:13.42ulicdfdf: which is telling you to mess with SV?
22:14.06dfdfcurse forum
22:14.19dfdfsays to put the contents of _data in saved variables
22:14.46ulicbah, just get all the files from files.wowace.com and put them in like any other addon
22:14.58dfdfk
22:15.08kergothanyone know of a little addon to just let me click on a tracking blip to target that by name?
22:15.11dfdfwell i downloaded them from ace because they were later versions
22:15.44ulicdfdf you must be trying to just drop in other saved variables. the _data addon has all that compiled together already.
22:15.57ulicand he updates it fairly often.
22:16.02dfdfcan you tell me where your Mining.lua is exactly?
22:16.25ulicI created no SV files by hand, I just installed the addons like any other addon.
22:18.03calvin_hi gents, i came in last night because Omen wasnt showing my threat as MT of my guild.  Ive tried disabling Pitbull, and its seeming to work now (I update both every day).. We're in terrokar and I attacked a lvl 62 worg, my friend attacked a 63.  I ONLY did white attacks on mine yet showed up as threat on his mob.  Any ideas?
22:18.38Gnarfozkergoth: addon's can't do that (anymore)
22:20.07calvin_Now he showed me (attacking a worg by myself) as having a negative value..
22:20.20calvin_I ve spent 3 days trying to solve this prob and I just cant...
22:22.15Gnarfozcalvin_: are the mobs of the same name?
22:22.35calvin_No
22:22.40calvin_well my bad
22:22.43calvin_Same name diff levels
22:23.11calvin_I was under the impression as long as name, sex, or level was diff it could distinguish?
22:23.17Pheredhelno only name
22:23.22Gnarfozno, name only. combat log data doesn't show which one you're hitting
22:23.24Gnarfozonly who
22:23.37Gnarfoz(i.e. by name)
22:23.41calvin_Gnancy, ok well thats a huge tip.. thank you... lemmie see how thats diff
22:24.23dfdfulic - that did the tick and i would have isntalled the _data like any other addon if i hadn't read on curse not to
22:24.25dfdfty :)
22:24.42calvin_what about that negative value? I had my friend take a pic... On mine it showed normal (which it always has in kara) but everyone sees like my intial shield slam then i just drift to the bottom of omen
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22:32.04ennuilgCIA feeling sickly? Recent commit not appeared here, or on files.wowace.com and http://cia.vc/stats/author/ennuilg just sits there "Waiting for cia.vc" ... Known issue, or just very busy?
22:32.23calvin_I have to say, its seeming that its Pitbull (although I know others have success using both), but when I disable it all is well
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22:35.22Diaomaybe
22:35.26Diaojust turn off the threat module in pitbull
22:36.14calvin_Im reinstalling pitbull now to try that =)
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22:47.27sag_ich_nichtgah
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23:14.34Tinyboomwtb sleep
23:15.17sag_ich_nichthave sleep, will not sell
23:15.18sag_ich_nichtgood night
23:15.19sag_ich_nicht:O
23:17.40sylvanaarkergoth, i did somethign like that for prat maybe you could adapt it for your use
23:20.37kergother, is armory borked?
23:20.44kergoth"You have encountered an error."
23:20.46kergothhow helpful!
23:20.53sylvanaarkergoth most likely you would combine a keybind and mouseover (look at the commented-out code in prat's telltarget module (there is an implementation of targeting that last person to send you a tell)
23:21.14kergothwill take a look, thanks
23:21.15Thrae!c us maelstrom thrae
23:21.34Wobwork><
23:21.35ThraeThey killed it
23:21.38kergothbooo
23:21.51Wobworkfor a second there I read that "I C WHUT U R MAELSTROMMING THAR"
23:22.15Diaoyea armory is borked atm
23:22.28WobworkI clearly need sleep to prevent lolcats from overtaking my brain =P
23:23.06sylvanaarok - does anyone know, can you proc darkmoon-blue dragon, then hit the bangle of endless blessings and get the added regen bonus?
23:23.16kergothi should get off my ass and grind out scryers exalted for my shoulder enchant someday
23:23.18kergothmeh
23:23.22kergothi hate rep grinds
23:23.28sylvanaaroh i need to do that too
23:23.39TNZesylvanaar, I think that they blocked the ability to gain more than 100% mana regen
23:23.40ThraeHmmm, getting 500 errors from armory now...
23:23.51TNZeand I'm getting decent performance from armory now
23:23.54sylvanaari have 600 shy of *cough* honoref
23:24.07TNZeie, not laggy as heck
23:24.11sylvanaars/honoref/honored/
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23:26.56sylvanaarTNZe they did for the blue dragon card itself
23:27.14sylvanaarit used to give you more that 100%
23:27.30sylvanaari should go try
23:30.42CIA-1403athou * r47220 10SnapshotBar/SnapshotBar.lua:
23:30.42CIA-14SnapshotBar:
23:30.42CIA-14- should now restore your macros and items from your bags to your action bars too
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23:43.23sylvanaaranyone else notice littlewigs warnings not being dislayed?
23:43.52Funkeh`No they've always worked fine for me
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23:46.53ulicsylvanaar: nothing has changed in a while, unless blizzard changed stuff.
23:46.58ulicsylvanaar: any particular instance?
23:47.39sylvanaarall
23:48.13ulicI haven't run any since like saturday, but Murmur worked then.
23:48.14sylvanaarthere are 2 options for giving raidwarnings to your group
23:48.34sylvanaarone of them, disables the other which needs to be on
23:48.51ulicyea, that thing has always confused me
23:49.04ulicI think if you have it set to send to chat, then it doesn't do the /rw
23:49.09ulicbut I'm not sure.
23:49.12sylvanaaryes
23:49.13Funkeh`untick broadcast to chat simple
23:49.18sylvanaarno
23:49.25sylvanaarboth can be tic'ed
23:49.39sylvanaarbut you hvae to tic one first or else its disabled
23:49.42ulicbut when one get's ticked the other get's grayed out.
23:49.54sylvanaarand if that one is not tic'ed you wont broadcase
23:49.58sylvanaart
23:49.59ulicthat would make me think that it's automatically disabled
23:50.06sylvanaarit is
23:50.08ulicbut I'm not expert on the interworking of BW
23:50.16ulic*an
23:50.21sylvanaarits disabled when you click "sent to chat"
23:50.59ckknighthey all
23:51.02ckknighthow's everyone doing?
23:51.11ulicgood, how's your day going?
23:51.37ckknightmeh

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