00:01.41 | ckknight | kergoth: do you have any thoughts to the whole contract-in-lua situation? |
00:01.56 | ckknight | specifically for the whole addon system |
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00:05.58 | JoshBorke | i hate argchecking |
00:06.29 | ckknight | JoshBorke: you and me both |
00:06.30 | sb | hmmm ckknight |
00:06.35 | kergoth | JoshBorke: it's nice for debugging, you can find people who arent playing nice |
00:06.36 | ckknight | but it's useful to catch errors early |
00:06.45 | ckknight | sb: hrm? |
00:06.47 | kergoth | ckknight: i'll take a look at the pastey and give it some thought when i get home |
00:06.55 | ckknight | thanks |
00:07.24 | sb | dmg w/o source (shadow word death) is displayed on other players outgoing - any idea? :p |
00:08.20 | kergoth | there's soem good articles on that contract reading list, i'll have to read some of those. i dunno why but i love reading computing articles like those |
00:08.33 | ckknight | lol |
00:09.31 | kergoth | guess its just nice to consider different viewpoints, compare and contrast |
00:11.13 | Thezilch | sb: previous -- dmg w/ source -- actor not null'd? |
00:11.44 | ckknight | well, the general con I see with using contracts is that error messages will be different for users/devs if a contract is unfulfilled. The general pro is that users wouldn't have to run pointless contracts that should've been caught in development, including argument checking. Also, there could be some way to specifically enable contracts to be run for a non-released addon (e.g. always run, even if the user hasn't enabled it), making it so |
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00:28.19 | KarlThePagan | OH LAWD SOME1 GOT BUSTED - http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/1134167478.htm |
00:31.28 | ckknight | hehe |
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00:36.10 | KarlThePagan | after all the bullshit we've seen (legendaries that only dropped for a friend of a dev)... it's good that there are finally some limits finally |
00:37.13 | KarlThePagan | (Talisman of Binding Shard if you missed that) |
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00:58.41 | Nandini | yay i finally got it! i can rotate my texture arbitrarily! |
01:00.11 | Nandini | now if only i could get it to clip to its parent frame :/ |
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01:00.25 | ckknight | oh, I've dealt with this |
01:00.37 | ckknight | Nandini: Blizzard refuses to change the bleeding effect, so you know |
01:00.57 | Nandini | yes i'm trying to think how i can mask it without doing yet another transform |
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01:03.47 | ckknight | what're you rotating? |
01:03.58 | ckknight | I've tried rotating Blizzard minimap textures (for Cartographer_InstanceMaps) |
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01:04.17 | ckknight | if you rotate anything besides a multiple of 90ยบ, it bleeds |
01:04.29 | ckknight | and I don't think you can mask... |
01:04.36 | ckknight | if you can, I'd like to get your results :-) |
01:05.04 | Nandini | i know somehow bliz implements masking, for example, with the character portrait and with the minimap mask |
01:05.26 | ckknight | yea |
01:05.34 | ckknight | but not in the general case |
01:05.54 | Nandini | true, but perhaps i can determine how they do that and mimic it |
01:06.14 | Nandini | i could call my texture a portrait and replace the portraits texture with my own texture |
01:06.16 | ckknight | well, check the widget API |
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01:06.44 | Nandini | just need to see if i can actually set the portraits mask, or if it can only use the default circle mask |
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01:12.31 | Nandini | hmm is the texture used in a "frame" frame's backdrop accessible for SetTexCoord? |
01:14.47 | Funkeh` | later |
01:15.04 | JoshBorke | Nandini: don't think so, no |
01:16.28 | Nandini | yeah all i can get out of it is the texture file |
01:16.40 | Nandini | no way to get to the texture itself |
01:17.11 | kergoth | hmm, simpleminimap's capture mover doesnt seem to work :( |
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01:17.32 | Nandini | it got fixed in a recent update and worked for me recently |
01:17.43 | Nandini | well recent = a week or so ago |
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01:19.08 | kergoth | hmm |
01:20.43 | JoshBorke | hmm |
01:22.05 | Nandini | well my rotate texture conforms to the original constraints of SetHeight and SetWidth on the texture |
01:22.39 | Nandini | which is why i had originally made it a semicircle occupying the top half of a square texture, with the bottom half transparent |
01:23.16 | Nandini | i guess i could change my gauge to a speedometer needle |
01:24.25 | Nandini | and display my health like a gas gauge |
01:25.42 | Nandini | it's too bad i can't do a second transform on my texture and chop off the bottom half |
01:26.04 | Cryect | Nandini: look at my clip routine |
01:26.13 | Nandini | in graph? |
01:26.15 | Cryect | no |
01:26.19 | Cryect | in Replay |
01:26.24 | Nandini | k |
01:26.40 | Cryect | if you want to see how to do axis aligned rectangular texture clipping |
01:26.52 | Nandini | that's exactly what i need to do :) |
01:27.21 | Nandini | can i do it on a texture that's already been transformed? |
01:27.39 | Cryect | yeah |
01:27.46 | Cryect | it clips it based on the current texture coordinates |
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01:32.43 | Nandini | ouch, no want more matrix math!!! |
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01:39.37 | ckknight | hey all |
01:39.39 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
01:40.55 | ulic | just as well as the last time you dc'd :) |
01:40.58 | Chompers | hey ckk |
01:41.13 | ckknight | ulic: battery ran out |
01:41.14 | ckknight | back home now |
01:42.10 | ulic | I wish I had more of a gift for programming, you're getting my excited with Joker :) |
01:42.27 | ckknight | well, it's made so newbies can use it as well |
01:42.30 | ulic | *me |
01:43.10 | Chompers | "do i pushed the butan?" newbies? |
01:43.34 | ckknight | no, you misspelled "teh" |
01:43.40 | Chompers | if so, maybe its time i started making addons |
01:43.41 | Chompers | hahah |
01:43.53 | ulic | I'm not that green, but I definetly don't have the insight to plan ahead, and to be very efficient. |
01:44.06 | Chompers | i also forgot to put 'lol' at the start and end of the line |
01:44.10 | Chompers | and in the middle |
01:44.23 | ckknight | lol like parentheses lol |
01:44.44 | Chompers | lol lol, lol |
01:44.50 | Nandini | yay! ty Cryect, it works almost perfectly!!! |
01:44.54 | Chompers | lol lol, waffles, lol |
01:45.16 | ckknight | omg toaster |
01:45.36 | Chompers | i have a character called toaster! |
01:45.52 | Chompers | what a waste of a month that was |
01:46.07 | ulic | is he/she a cylon? |
01:46.30 | Chompers | ...perhaps |
01:46.31 | Chompers | you big nerd |
01:46.56 | Mecdemort | ckknight: If fubar creates a dewdrop menu that I also want to have available via slash command, should i try to access the menu fubar creates or just make my own? |
01:47.00 | ulic | I prefer bread-fanatic. |
01:47.55 | ckknight | use the same options table |
01:48.44 | Nandini | there is so much math involved in doing these texture transforms, i'm afraid my gauge will not be an effective replacement for statusbars |
01:49.00 | ckknight | gauge? |
01:49.11 | ckknight | like a circular dealy? |
01:49.15 | Nandini | yup |
01:49.41 | Nandini | you just take a semicircle that's in the top half of an otherwise transparent square, rotate it, then clip it to a rectangle |
01:50.37 | Mecdemort | ckknight: ok, how would i go about accessing the menu it creates? |
01:50.48 | ckknight | it doesn't create a menu, you supply it |
01:50.50 | Nandini | well, you do all that with cryects help :) |
01:51.05 | Chompers | There have been 18 Neos, 133 Xanders, 273 Trinitys and 158 Willows born in Victoria since 1980, according to the Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages. |
01:51.07 | Chompers | Fail. |
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01:51.42 | ckknight | Xander's not a horrible name |
01:51.50 | ckknight | my grandma's maiden name was Zander... |
01:52.03 | Nandini | 273 Trinities? And not one stinking Unity, Singularity, or Duality? |
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01:53.26 | Mecdemort | ckknight: wait, doesnt fubar create all the menus from the OnMenuRequest? i can't reuse that one? |
01:53.39 | ckknight | yes you can, and you provide it |
01:53.56 | Nandini | ckknight: the nice thing about the gauge is you can make the bottom half of the texture be what you want the "background" of the gauge to look like while empty, and when you rotate it, you see the empty part too |
01:54.16 | Mecdemort | hmm i dont think i have the slightest idea how dewdrop works... off to read the docs |
01:56.47 | sylvanaar | Xander -from the cartoon series Drawn Together |
01:56.53 | Chompers | i hear it uses wizardry, of the nefarious kind |
01:57.29 | sylvanaar | "Strong Xander! Strong Xander!" |
01:58.08 | Chompers | he'll rescue his girlfriend one day |
01:58.13 | sylvanaar | nah |
01:58.22 | sylvanaar | he came out and she dumped him |
01:58.30 | Chompers | oh right? |
01:58.46 | sylvanaar | now he has a boyfriend |
01:58.54 | Chompers | i gues that was further on in the series, i could only stand about 10 episodes of it |
01:58.59 | sylvanaar | who was kidnapped by the same guy |
01:59.42 | sylvanaar | i love it - it totally obscene |
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02:04.45 | kergoth | why did Parrot just say [Survival Tree ready!] |
02:04.53 | kergoth | i dont think my talent tree has a cooldown |
02:05.18 | ulic | cool down for the treant thingy? |
02:05.42 | sb | trap cd? |
02:06.02 | sb | -> traps ready again |
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02:06.54 | ulic | but never fear, cuase you can just tell Parrot to eat the cracker, and not give to you :) |
02:06.55 | kergoth | it didnt say traps ready |
02:07.34 | sb | but traps are survival 'casts'? |
02:07.44 | sb | or do you also get 'traps ready' messages? |
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02:12.03 | Amadeo | I need a stealth macro that I can mash, and it won't bring me back out of stealth if I hit it during or after my stealth :P |
02:12.37 | alb- | i just put stealth on my mainactionbar |
02:12.56 | Amadeo | doesn't it unstealth you if you keep hitting it? |
02:13.08 | alb- | not if you don't have stealth on the same place on your stealthbar |
02:13.14 | alb- | i have cheapshot there |
02:13.17 | ulic | Amadeo: I think you can put a modifier on it |
02:13.25 | Amadeo | I don't know macros at all |
02:13.42 | ulic | check wowwiki, they have lots of great examples for all classes. |
02:13.46 | Amadeo | kk |
02:14.35 | ulic | but I don't know why you'd need to 'mash' your stealth button :) |
02:15.00 | Amadeo | it's nice in PvP when you're lagging or don't know when combat will drop, so you can get back in stealth and hit them |
02:15.42 | ulic | suppose that's resonable, I don't PvP much |
02:16.08 | Amadeo | nice, wowwiki had a simple one |
02:16.15 | Amadeo | /cast [stance:0] Stealth |
02:16.21 | Amadeo | I found some others that were long as hell |
02:16.38 | ulic | wowwiki is sweet for stuff like that |
02:16.54 | ulic | lots of great macros |
02:17.51 | Amadeo | yeah, I should visit it more :) |
02:18.05 | ulic | I do all the time for macros & instance information. |
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02:24.57 | Nandini | hmm my gauge can draw itself 20000 times in 0.41 seconds |
02:26.37 | JoshBorke | why would you draw more than once per frame? |
02:27.08 | Nandini | it wouldn't, i'm just trying to compare it to the efficiency of using a statusbar |
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02:29.36 | Mecdemort | is there any tutorial for using dewdrop, i cant make heads or tails of it |
02:30.01 | ckknight | you're looking at it wrong, then |
02:30.48 | Nandini | you should be able to feed it the same options table you give to fubar |
02:31.16 | Arrowmaster | Amadeo: i use /cast [nostealth] Stealth on my rogue i think |
02:31.31 | Nandini | that's what i use on my druid too Arrowmaster |
02:31.44 | Arrowmaster | but i guess /cast [stance:0] Stealth is better for nelfs |
02:31.44 | Nandini | except it's /cast [nostealth] Prowl |
02:32.23 | Nandini | or /cast [nostance] Stealth |
02:32.38 | ulic | yea all those should probably work fine |
02:32.54 | Arrowmaster | something like that since [stealth] applies to shadowmeld too |
02:33.05 | Cryect | Nandini: You figure out the clipping? |
02:33.22 | Nandini | yes, please take me and use me as you will, i am your slave forever |
02:33.27 | Cryect | haha |
02:33.34 | Cryect | yeah I assumed that function was pretty easy to use |
02:34.59 | Nandini | i just added in to the beginning of my rotate function to set height and width equal to the parent frame width first (since i am clipping a square texture to a rectangle) |
02:35.18 | Nandini | also clear its points and set its center to the bottom of the parent frame |
02:36.03 | Cryect | yeah you have to clear points before passing it back to that function if you don't use bottomleft |
02:36.17 | Nandini | if i don't "undo" all the clipping before i rotate again, i get a mess |
02:36.29 | Cryect | haha yeah |
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02:36.53 | Nandini | i thought with all that math it would not be an efficient statusbar replacement, but it's actually very fast |
02:36.57 | Cryect | Prolly would be better to clip all the stuff before setting it in the first place but I thought this was simpler |
02:37.06 | Cryect | and it seemed reasonably fast |
02:37.20 | kowi | http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=3954 |
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02:38.22 | Nandini | unless you have 120 fps and are rotating more than about 500 frames each draw, it cannot be perceptably slower than a statusbar |
02:38.37 | Cryect | heh |
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02:40.08 | Nandini | it may be useful for authors who want to add a semicircular "gauge" type of bar for unit frames |
02:40.37 | Nandini | or as a timer, or just about anything you would use a bar for |
02:41.33 | Diao | weird |
02:41.36 | Diao | once i take recount off standby |
02:41.39 | Diao | it doesn't stanbdy |
02:41.41 | Diao | anymore |
02:41.46 | Cryect | hmmm thats uh strange |
02:42.02 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47160 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: |
02:42.02 | CIA-14 | LibJokerConfig-1.0 - If any function or method returns "@dict", "@list", or |
02:42.03 | CIA-14 | "@set", followed by a tuple, it will automatically turn the tuple into the |
02:42.03 | CIA-14 | proper table type (a dict, list, or set), which will later be automatically |
02:42.03 | CIA-14 | recycled. |
02:42.03 | CIA-14 | - this hasn't been implemented for .args yet, but works for any other field. |
02:42.06 | Cryect | appears to be standby for me |
02:42.09 | Diao | well |
02:42.12 | Diao | it says it's in standby mode |
02:42.13 | Cryect | does it say standby but not? |
02:42.14 | Diao | but it's still recording data |
02:43.07 | Cryect | strnage don't see anyhting obviously wrong will check that out later |
02:43.22 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47161 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - make the active option have an order of 1 (top). |
02:44.28 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47162 10Joker/LibJokerDB-1.0/LibJokerDB-1.0.lua: LibJokerDB-1.0 - add profile options. the profile list and copy list are created on-demand (a nice upgrade from AceDB-2.0's crappy system of storing and upgrading an unsafe table). |
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02:48.46 | ckknight | that puts the major pieces in motion, at least |
02:50.18 | ulic | I know you mentioned some about it on the wiki, but is it your intention/hope that this will become Ace3, or will just be a new system? |
02:50.39 | ckknight | yes, it is my hope |
02:50.44 | ckknight | but that remains to be seen |
02:51.32 | ckknight | basically, Ace2 has warts/issues/etc. Work could be done to fix it, but in order to do so, you'd need to break API a bit. It's my belief that since API's already broken, why not break it all the way and make something better from the ground up? |
02:51.51 | art3mis | elvis...was a hero to most |
02:51.52 | art3mis | elvis...was a hero to most |
02:51.56 | art3mis | but he never meant shit to me |
02:52.00 | ckknight | thank you for that, art3mis |
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02:52.19 | art3mis | straight out racist and plain, whaddya mean john wayn |
02:52.42 | art3mis | you're welcome ckk |
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02:53.06 | art3mis | i heard your inside voice calling "god i wish someone would type some fight the powah lyrics |
02:53.44 | ckknight | ... |
02:55.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i know my inner voice was saying that. |
02:55.50 | art3mis | mine too |
02:56.38 | art3mis | heh yeah those socks would go great with my sandles, what i look like a german? |
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03:02.45 | TNZe | lol >_< |
03:03.03 | TNZe | at 2nd boss in heroic underbog "server going down in 25 minutes" |
03:03.05 | TNZe | ick |
03:03.15 | TNZe | so turbo speed and downed last boss with 2 mins left |
03:05.59 | Silowyi | TNZe: once in heroic SP we were on the crab boss |
03:06.19 | Silowyi | we were wiping |
03:06.30 | Silowyi | 1%, only the warlock left alive, and about to die |
03:06.32 | Silowyi | the zone crashed |
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03:06.46 | Silowyi | when we all logged back in, we were all alive, the boss was dead, and we had loot on the body |
03:06.53 | Silowyi | best server crash ever |
03:07.21 | kebinusan | 4chan makes me laugh sometimes: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1187751009060.png |
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03:10.48 | TNZe | lol |
03:10.52 | TNZe | we had that once |
03:10.59 | TNZe | killed boss |
03:11.03 | TNZe | gave out loot |
03:11.05 | TNZe | server crash |
03:11.09 | TNZe | entire kara cleared :P |
03:11.14 | TNZe | no more mobs left |
03:11.15 | TNZe | lol |
03:12.03 | ckknight | lol, kebinusan |
03:13.37 | CIA-14 | 03morgalm * r47165 10MorgDKP/ (LootTablet.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc): |
03:13.37 | CIA-14 | MorgDKP: |
03:13.37 | CIA-14 | - Autolink items above the quality threshold to raid chat on looting |
03:13.52 | TNZe | meh |
03:14.09 | TNZe | the synergy between a boomkin, ele shaman, shadowpriest and 2 mages is obscene |
03:15.18 | Nandini | ooh what is securepiebuttontemplate used for? it says it's a template for "radial menus" |
03:15.52 | ckknight | yea |
03:15.58 | ckknight | and it's horrid to code against. |
03:16.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine it's used for radial menues? |
03:16.14 | Nandini | is it even used anywhere in-game? |
03:17.30 | Nandini | i can't ever recall seeing anything i would describe as a radial menu |
03:17.35 | art3mis | making sphere autorotate would rule |
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03:26.25 | Nandini | grr stupid wowwiki is [[Editing]] and unavailable |
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03:27.10 | CIA-14 | AuldLangSyne: |
03:27.10 | CIA-14 | -Info: Remove friends list coloring. |
03:27.10 | CIA-14 | -FriendList: New module comprised of the above. |
03:27.10 | CIA-14 | -GuildList: New module coloring the guild panel. Not 100% finished, but working. |
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03:32.30 | Quator1a | Antiar2: ping |
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03:33.17 | kaiden | Hey quick question, what's the current best click casting mods? |
03:34.14 | ulic | I like clique |
03:34.37 | kaiden | ah is that still being updated? |
03:34.58 | ulic | dunno that I've checked in a while, but it still works fine for me. |
03:35.42 | ckknight | I use Click2Cast :-P |
03:36.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, clique is still being updated. |
03:36.45 | cladhaire | someone even reported a bug |
03:36.46 | cladhaire | that i can fix |
03:36.47 | cladhaire | heh |
03:39.36 | Nandini | grr... gief wowwiki |
03:40.01 | Nandini | lol of course he goes afk as soon as i say that |
03:40.26 | ckknight | does someone with a slow computer want to test something for me? |
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03:40.53 | Nandini | i wish i could underclock my computer just for that effect |
03:41.09 | Nandini | i have too many processors and cores to represent the average user |
03:41.19 | ckknight | lol |
03:43.00 | Nandini | is there an alternative source for api documentation besides wowwiki? |
03:43.08 | ckknight | no, not really |
03:43.28 | ckknight | basically, I want to test that if I make the garbage collector very aggressive OOC if it slows down old computers too much |
03:45.00 | ckknight | it doesn't slow me down at all, but my comp is pretty good |
03:45.20 | cladhaire | that's not the best way to go about things. |
03:45.26 | ckknight | it's just a test |
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03:45.53 | cladhaire | which i've run a number of times.. it has an affect on FPS |
03:46.03 | cladhaire | the affect is varied depending on the level of the machine, and in particular the amount of ram |
03:46.14 | FryGuy- | why does every 4chan link i click go to 404 :( |
03:46.22 | cladhaire | a too aggressive multplier keeps the GC value way too tight.. you can't just set the same value for everyone and expect it to work correctly |
03:46.27 | cladhaire | I'm working on a better solution,. |
03:46.39 | Garoun|Loupana | god I wish they'd just push the afk portion of 2.2 out as a small patch |
03:46.59 | cladhaire | Garoun|Loupana: indeed, =/ i want to enjoy av again |
03:47.22 | Garoun|Loupana | On moonrunner on avg alliance has 15-20 afkers EVERY game |
03:47.23 | ckknight | cladhaire: oh? which solution is this? |
03:47.41 | Garoun|Loupana | I plan to report every one of them when 2.2 goes live |
03:47.50 | ckknight | cause, imho, I think a contextless system, which WoW uses, isn't the best situation, as different things occur in different contexts |
03:47.52 | cladhaire | twofold, one working with slouken to set a more aggressive multiplier, somethign i fought for last time we tuned. |
03:47.55 | cladhaire | only now he's going to listen |
03:48.09 | ckknight | well, you have my support |
03:48.29 | ckknight | how aggressive? |
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03:49.07 | cladhaire | i'm working on an algorithm that will help determine that |
03:49.53 | cladhaire | this all dates back to my post on the UI forums, in December, unfortunately |
03:50.41 | cladhaire | getting the pause value changed was victory enough at that point, however :p |
03:52.44 | cladhaire | Apoligies for reacting quickly, but I remembered back to the last "test" you ran regarding this, and don't think repeating that is in anyone's best interest. I have no reason to suspect that you would do that again, so again, apologies. |
03:53.05 | cladhaire | s/Apoligies/Apologies/ |
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03:54.53 | ckknight | alright |
03:55.11 | ckknight | ...I had said "my bad". I thought that was enough |
03:55.13 | ckknight | :-P |
03:55.36 | cladhaire | I think we can find a better solution with slouken :P |
03:56.15 | ckknight | meh, slouken seems to ignore my requests, regardless of their validity |
03:56.21 | ckknight | it's more annoying now than anything |
03:56.30 | cladhaire | well, he's not the UI programmer |
03:56.45 | cladhaire | he does what he does in his spare time, and anything has to go to the designers before it can be programmed. |
03:57.01 | cladhaire | i'm hoping the ui lead starts reading/participating more. |
03:57.09 | ckknight | who is the UI lead? |
03:57.27 | cladhaire | one of the other developers |
03:57.48 | cladhaire | i dont think he really ever intends to have the level of public focus that slouken does |
04:00.24 | cladhaire | fwiw, i don't think slouken ignores your requests :P |
04:13.24 | Silowyi | tbh the AV "solution" depending on how its implemented could only have minimal effect, the most likely result being we go back to 2 hour AV queues. |
04:14.02 | Silowyi | Battleground voting was a suggestion I put up on the forums a year ago though, its the best thing I could come up with. |
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04:14.19 | Silowyi | but I don't think its the end all of solutions, just a step in the right direction |
04:16.51 | Silowyi | Ok, I really like tablet and am comfortable with using it, but I'd like to grow beyond using tooltip style UIs for everything |
04:17.26 | Silowyi | Is there a good ace-ish windowing library out there? And... am I going to need to learn how WoW does xml? |
04:17.38 | ckknight | cladhaire: he has ignored my requests on occasions |
04:17.54 | cladhaire | *shrug* okay. |
04:17.58 | ckknight | Silowyi: neither |
04:18.33 | ckknight | just figure out how CreateFrame works |
04:19.10 | Silowyi | hmm, kk, experimenting time |
04:19.32 | Silowyi | gg lvl 7 draenei paladin with no non-library addons enabled! |
04:20.24 | ckknight | I use a lvl 6 priest draenei |
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04:27.42 | ckknight | kergoth: you looked at that contract stuff yet? |
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04:33.15 | Yssaril | what does this mean?? BugSack-2.2.0.40596\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:375: AddOn index must be in the range of 1 to 178 |
04:33.30 | Yssaril | problem with bugsack? |
04:35.02 | art3mis | contract stuff? |
04:37.22 | ulic | something about Joker |
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04:56.53 | art3mis | oh i see |
04:56.55 | ckknight | art3mis: contractual agreements for methods |
04:57.10 | art3mis | i saw contract and immediately thought some sorta legal thing |
04:57.19 | art3mis | not code related ;P |
04:57.28 | art3mis | like "service contract" |
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05:14.06 | NightHawkTheSane | any druids around? |
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05:15.55 | art3mis | it should be a rule that moonkin can only exist at night |
05:16.04 | Gngsk | genius |
05:16.06 | art3mis | and its an automatic transformation you have no control over |
05:16.14 | Gngsk | like a worgen |
05:16.20 | art3mis | exactly |
05:16.26 | NightHawkTheSane | in the same vein, should nelfs only be able to shadowmeld at night? :P |
05:16.31 | art3mis | Night of the Freaking Boomkin! |
05:16.52 | art3mis | they should be able to meld if they're shadow... not say oh i dunno the middle of the abrrens |
05:16.57 | art3mis | there's |
05:17.15 | NightHawkTheSane | in wc3, nelfs only shadowmelded at night, i believe. ;) |
05:17.15 | art3mis | not without thier kitty umbrellla that is |
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05:34.03 | kergoth | is prowl used in pve at all, or just pvp? training my new cat pet |
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05:35.03 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
05:35.03 | CIA-14 | - using AceDB now |
05:35.03 | CIA-14 | - Fubar support should be working much better now |
05:35.03 | CIA-14 | - Filtering your share works now |
05:43.58 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: no real point in pve, really |
05:44.14 | kergoth | hmm |
05:44.25 | Yssaril | ckknight: did you have a look at the slider/editbox thing? |
05:44.25 | Silowyi | tbh the only real use for it in pve or pvp is to eyes of the beast and spy with it |
05:44.34 | Silowyi | but I don't think you can make your pet go through the gate anymore |
05:44.49 | ckknight | Yssaril: yea, I saw the issue you talked about, it's definitely an issue |
05:44.56 | ckknight | I'll likely be moving the editbox to the right of the slider |
05:44.57 | kergoth | so growl, bite, claw, dash the best bet there? |
05:45.07 | Yssaril | cool man |
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05:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: for a cat, yees |
05:45.50 | kergoth | kk |
05:45.57 | kergoth | its my first cat.. 70 and i've never had one before |
05:45.58 | kergoth | heh |
05:46.46 | art3mis | hey ckk |
05:46.52 | art3mis | can fubar be anchored and lock anywhere? |
05:46.58 | art3mis | locked |
05:46.59 | ckknight | yea |
05:47.03 | art3mis | ooo |
05:47.14 | art3mis | but not vertical right? |
05:48.05 | art3mis | any chance i can con you into making it so that it supports vertical but automatically "icon only"'s anything on the vert bars? |
05:48.36 | ckknight | no |
05:48.41 | art3mis | why? |
05:48.45 | kergoth | thinking 3 in all resists, growl, claw, bite, avoidance 2, cobra reflexes |
05:48.47 | ckknight | too little ROI |
05:49.02 | art3mis | roi == reason or interest? |
05:49.50 | art3mis | what about making it scroll all the time like a ticker tape and have a mouse over stop it mouse wheel move it left and right and at the mouse you get a view finder like a slide rule? |
05:49.53 | Fisker- | http://steamcommunity.com/id/jason <-noes they be stealing mah bucket? |
05:50.27 | art3mis | thats the drama squirrel dumbie ;P |
05:50.29 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: return on investment. jesus how do people notknow that acronym |
05:50.30 | kergoth | roi = return on investment |
05:50.33 | kergoth | heh |
05:50.43 | art3mis | never used it |
05:50.52 | art3mis | or come to think of it heard it used around me |
05:51.04 | art3mis | but mine is much more fitting for ckk ;) |
05:52.08 | art3mis | wow |
05:52.13 | art3mis | lunesta tastse HORRIBLE |
05:52.17 | art3mis | tastes |
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06:04.14 | kergoth | Cryect, i dont see dps in the graph window anywhere.. |
06:04.18 | kebinusan | So nice after getting vashj to phase 3 last week to spend 2.5 hours wiping on hydross this week |
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06:10.36 | RaydenUni | do any mods use a lot of cpu power? |
06:10.52 | RaydenUni | i'm getting fewer fps than usual and i'm wondering if it is a specific mod |
06:11.04 | RaydenUni | or perhaps its my whole collection |
06:11.10 | art3mis | change yer zoom? |
06:12.11 | Wobin | kergoth: the cat only going to be used pve? |
06:12.15 | Wobin | and instances/raiding? |
06:13.01 | Wobin | also, do you have GoForTheThroat |
06:13.18 | art3mis | it's eyes, not throat ;P |
06:13.43 | Wobin | The talent |
06:13.47 | Wobin | not the Minsc |
06:13.48 | vithos | Don't pew pew 'till you see the whites of their eyes? |
06:14.32 | Wobin | if you're finding that the cat is spending too much time with full focus with GftT, then use bite and claw |
06:14.38 | Wobin | otherwise just use claw |
06:14.53 | vithos | isn't bite more dmg/focus? |
06:14.55 | Wobin | and if you're using it in instances a lot, consider getting cower as well |
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06:16.01 | Wobin | nah |
06:16.04 | vithos | why cower? |
06:16.13 | Wobin | to give the tank all the aggro he can get |
06:16.15 | Yssaril | CowTip??? whats that? |
06:16.22 | ckknight | tooltip addon |
06:16.28 | Yssaril | ahhh |
06:16.39 | vithos | cower doesn't give the tank threat |
06:16.46 | Wobin | no it reduces the cats |
06:16.58 | kergoth | Wobin, bm atm, with gfft and bestial discipline |
06:16.59 | vithos | if the cat is pulling aggro, something's wrong |
06:17.00 | Wobin | makes it easier for the tank to pick up aggro |
06:17.33 | Wobin | Neither you nor the cat should be getting aggro |
06:17.35 | Bruners | if your pet is grabbing aggro off the tank something is clearly wrong |
06:17.40 | Wobin | but with BM dps, it can be hard =) |
06:17.44 | Wobin | so FD a lot |
06:17.48 | Wobin | and use cower |
06:17.57 | Wobin | although it's more useful with a ravager pet with gore |
06:18.05 | Wobin | which can deal a hell of a lot of dps |
06:18.15 | Wobin | and you -want- the ravager to never ever get aggro |
06:18.16 | vithos | i've never used cower, and my pet has never pulled aggro off a tank with growl disabled |
06:18.21 | Wobin | cause it'll be oneshotted =P |
06:18.49 | vithos | only time it's even come close is on voidreaver due to the deaggro/tank rotation |
06:18.50 | Bruners | is there any statements that poison will be nerfed in the next patch? |
06:18.54 | Bruners | posion from scorpids |
06:19.02 | Wobin | they say it'll 'change' |
06:19.08 | Wobin | no idea on what the precise changes are |
06:20.27 | Wobin | Mostly for instances, mind you, but cower means you can send the pet to attack just about anything, and not have to worry about it taking damage at any point |
06:20.36 | abug | people are saying they nerfed the coefficient it got from attack power but left the bug |
06:21.00 | Wobin | So it's a lesser coefficient, but still sticks to the first application? |
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06:21.21 | vithos | that sucks. i'd rather have the opposite |
06:21.41 | vithos | "bug" fixed, coeffecient left |
06:21.42 | NightHawkTheSane | lowering the coefficiant is easier to implement |
06:21.53 | Bruners | im guessing no more 700 ticks |
06:21.53 | Wobin | without having to rewrite the stacking code =) |
06:21.58 | NightHawkTheSane | and it's arguable that it's not a "bug" at all |
06:22.24 | vithos | that's why i quoted it. it's not really a bug, according to various dot class players i've talked to |
06:22.44 | vithos | but sigh, just one more thing to think about to maximize dps |
06:22.57 | vithos | i need to finish leveling my wind serpent |
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06:24.37 | vithos | i wish they'd hurry up and get this patch out, so us hunters could start theorycrafting all the nerfs. what sucks is i spent an entire day in spreadsheets evaluating all that haste gear right before i found out about the rating change |
06:24.41 | Dynom | now thats a pretty sight |
06:25.55 | Bruners | haste doesnt affect steady shot does it ? |
06:26.03 | vithos | yes |
06:26.19 | vithos | it affects steady and auto |
06:26.20 | kebinusan | I was playing around with this thing the other day, it doesnt have modules for anything but casters really, but still its kinda neathttp://wiki.shadowpriest.com/index.php?title=SimulationCraft |
06:27.22 | vithos | kebinusan: heh yeah, i was looking at that, wishing there was a hunter one |
06:29.35 | Bruners | vithos: your BM ? |
06:29.40 | vithos | yes |
06:29.50 | Bruners | vithos: how often do you fire arcane ? |
06:29.59 | vithos | only while running |
06:32.18 | Grum | vithos: as long as you are not close to the 1.55s autoshot the haste rating doesn't matter all that much .. or does it? :) |
06:32.38 | vithos | there's a 0.5 second delay after a special firing before autoshot fires |
06:32.59 | vithos | so even though the GCD isn't scaled, and steady is already at the GCD, it still speeds up the rotation because of that delay |
06:33.31 | Grum | vithos: so you say the autoshot rotation can not be below 2.0s if you are doing steadyshot/autoshot only? |
06:33.40 | Arrowmaster | if ignites dont roll anymore then the scopion poison using the AP from the first app for all is a bug |
06:34.23 | Arrowmaster | since afaik ignites are the only other dot that stacks |
06:34.23 | vithos | well, there's also serpent's swiftness and quiver haste which is static |
06:34.37 | vithos | or actually, is that only autoshot? i'd have to check |
06:34.52 | Grum | i think only auto |
06:34.59 | Arrowmaster | quiver haste effects aimed shot |
06:35.07 | Grum | hell no :) |
06:35.11 | vithos | either way, i've managed to get my autoshot down to 0.7 seconds before through bad timing on a haste pot |
06:35.14 | Arrowmaster | i know i tested that a long time ago on my hunter |
06:35.22 | Grum | lol |
06:36.23 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29143 does not make the aimedshot '6s' into '5.1s' as far as i know :) |
06:36.42 | Grum | it does however affect the autoshot cooldown |
06:36.45 | vithos | it's 3.5 seconds, isn't it? |
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06:36.50 | vithos | not that i have it on my bar. |
06:37.08 | Grum | humz 6s i though .. let me see |
06:37.16 | Grum | em yes |
06:37.34 | vithos | welcome to patch Before the Storm ;) |
06:37.35 | Grum | 3s .. but that doesnt make it 2.55s cast |
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06:37.40 | Bruners | have you tested http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28579 ? |
06:38.14 | vithos | nope, i don't have it |
06:38.25 | Arrowmaster | well back before the builtin aimedshot castbar i know i tested a few different aimed shot castbar mods and quiver haste seemed to effect them |
06:38.29 | vithos | Dragonspine Trophy and Bloodlust Brooch still |
06:38.52 | Bruners | im wondering if its wort spending time in kara for it |
06:39.07 | vithos | i dunno, but aimed shot is not in any hunter rotation anymore |
06:39.14 | Grum | Arrowmaster: afaik it never goes below 3s unless you have +haste rating items |
06:39.17 | vithos | i'm checking if steadyshot is affected by quiver or serpents swiftness |
06:39.32 | Grum | vithos: it should not be |
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06:39.37 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
06:39.37 | CIA-14 | - added dewdrop |
06:39.54 | Arrowmaster | well i only got my first hunter up to like lvl 36 |
06:39.55 | Bruners | i used to pop aimed when i used my haste trinket |
06:40.54 | Grum | Apply Aura: Haste - Ranged (Ammo Only) Value: 15 versus: Apply Aura: Mod Rating (393216) Value: 325 |
06:41.11 | vithos | it appears that it is |
06:41.20 | Grum | it should not be |
06:41.24 | vithos | and by that i mean, it appears that steadyshot is affected by quiver or serpents swiftness |
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06:41.53 | vithos | cheeky's spreadsheet is showing start time: 0.50 stop time: 1.58 for steadyshot without DST proc and without iAotH |
06:41.59 | Arrowmaster | i think the (Ammo Only) means if you have an ammo pouch equiped but your using a bow it doesnt effect it |
06:42.22 | Grum | that makes no sense, then with SS and quiver you would have 0.8*0.85*1.5 = 1.02s steadshots which is complete bs :) |
06:42.59 | Grum | unless you have 'haste rating' your SS cast-time will not go down afaik |
06:43.04 | vithos | that sounds about right to me |
06:43.05 | Arrowmaster | remember they expect all hunters to always use quivers, test the cast time without one equiped and see if its actually higher than 1.5 |
06:43.31 | Grum | it's not .. even naked it's 1.5s :) |
06:43.33 | vithos | not all quivers have the same haste, the base cast time is 1.5 |
06:44.00 | vithos | and there's no way cheeky's spreadsheet would be wrong about something so basic |
06:44.02 | Grum | only 'haste rating' will affect cast-times |
06:44.05 | Grum | lol |
06:44.08 | Grum | bet it is :) |
06:44.29 | Grum | there is no way quartz can be lying to me |
06:44.32 | Arrowmaster | once your lvl 55 or so i think they probably expect you to have a 15% quiver |
06:44.39 | Grum | not really |
06:44.44 | vithos | sigh, let me login and enable quartz |
06:45.36 | Grum | the game knows exactly how long a cast will take - quartz simply displays that time - it is *always* 1.5s unless you have haste-rating changing |
06:45.48 | Bruners | is it possible to make quartz allways show the border around the playerbar ? |
06:46.45 | Grum | Rapidfire: Apply Aura: Haste - Ranged - Value: 40 |
06:47.15 | Grum | Dragonspine trophy: Apply Aura: Mod Rating (393216) - Value: 325 |
06:47.27 | Arrowmaster | with my old lowbie hunter i had aimed shot before 2.x and even though it said 3sec cast time i and i used a few different aimed shot casting bar mods, it always seemed more like 3.5 and watching the animations it always went off later than the castbar mods |
06:47.38 | Grum | Haste potion: Apply Aura: Mod Rating (393216) - Value: 400 |
06:47.46 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster: the old mods didn't include latency. |
06:47.53 | Grum | yup |
06:47.54 | Arrowmaster | i know |
06:48.13 | Arrowmaster | and ive got perty low latency |
06:48.26 | Jaxon | And the old Aimed Shot tooltip said "Adds three seconds to cast time |
06:48.27 | Jaxon | " |
06:48.28 | Grum | but seriously - every 'steadyshot-cast-time-reducing-proc/item' is connected with haste-rating/modifiers |
06:48.33 | Grum | yup indeed Jaxon |
06:48.40 | Grum | Arrowmaster: slow pc also causes lag |
06:49.40 | Jaxon | Anyways, I started reading in the middle, what was the initial discussion? |
06:49.53 | abug | janet jackson |
06:49.54 | Arrowmaster | so do rapidfire and iaoth effect steadyshot/aimedshot? |
06:50.00 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster: yes. |
06:50.16 | vithos | Grum: my steadyshot starts at 1.1 according to Quartz. |
06:50.34 | Arrowmaster | vithos: try unequiping quiver |
06:50.43 | vithos | easier said than done |
06:50.48 | Grum | nah |
06:50.53 | vithos | lolbagspace |
06:50.53 | Grum | you can just put ammo in your normal pack |
06:50.59 | Grum | find a mailbox ;D |
06:51.00 | Grum | mail an alt :P |
06:51.12 | Bruners | any new big quivers comming ? |
06:51.16 | Grum | no |
06:51.55 | Jaxon | Nope, you'll run out of ammo in a full Karazhan clear and LIKE IT. And have to travel back to Grom'gal because that is the closet arrow vendor for horde. |
06:51.57 | vithos | there was a blue post al ong time ago saying they're going to do something about how fast we burn through arrows, since 18 slots is not enough for one raid |
06:52.32 | Fisker- | Anyone know if spellsurge is possible to track in regards to proc? |
06:52.47 | vithos | without the quiver equipped, it's 1.2 |
06:52.52 | Fisker- | I mean if i can see if it's me or someone else that triggered it |
06:52.58 | vithos | and actually, i think it was 1.0 with it equipped, not 1.1 |
06:53.02 | Grum | Fisker-: innercooldown of 1 minute from what i've read |
06:53.07 | Fisker- | i know Grum |
06:53.17 | Bruners | i usually have 5k arrows with me to a raid |
06:53.25 | vithos | so yes, quiver and serpents swiftness scale steadyshot |
06:53.29 | Grum | vithos: so now the question is - what is causing the haste-rating |
06:53.38 | vithos | ^ |
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06:53.53 | Bruners | and 5k arrows is about what you need for a raid |
06:53.55 | Grum | that is so twisted O.o |
06:54.08 | FryGuy- | http://digg.com/videos/educational/Advanced_Photo_Resizing_Vid |
06:54.49 | abug | if you just picked an herb it's probably your spellsurge |
06:57.47 | Neebler | the haste nerf is reganomics |
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06:58.35 | vithos | the haste nerf is LOL U GOT EXCITED ABOUT ITEMS |
06:59.20 | Grum | FryGuy-: omg that is indeed *very* cool :P |
06:59.26 | FryGuy- | so simple too |
06:59.29 | FryGuy- | i mean, the algorithm |
06:59.33 | Grum | yeah |
06:59.48 | Grum | expecially the 'removing' and 'adding' is spectacular to see :) |
07:00.05 | FryGuy- | the 'erasing' was what was amazing to me |
07:00.11 | Grum | yeah |
07:00.20 | Grum | 'i dont want that buy on the picture' ... done! :D |
07:00.26 | Grum | *guy |
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07:01.33 | Grum | it's a nice toy for when you break up with your bf/gf ;) |
07:01.46 | Grum | 'fixing' all of your holiday picture O.o |
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07:16.12 | Wobin | hm, our guild has started using Mumble for communication |
07:16.15 | Wobin | it's quite good |
07:16.24 | Grum | instead of VT/TS? |
07:17.38 | ramoz | how much BW does a VT/TS use when 25 ppl are in at the same time? :O |
07:18.36 | Wobin | yeah |
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07:18.47 | Wobin | it's the first one that appears to work without any issue crossplatform |
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07:22.03 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Games does that actually work? |
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07:22.55 | Wobin | The overlay? |
07:23.01 | Yssaril | gnight guys |
07:23.02 | Wobin | oh directional |
07:23.10 | Wobin | I don't know, I've never actually tried it |
07:24.25 | Sais | How easy would it be to add a new hook to change (add functionality to) a single line in someone else's dewdrop menu - without modifying their code? |
07:24.55 | Sais | It feels like it ought to be possible...but I can't quite see how to go about it. |
07:25.40 | Ominous | just edit the table of options |
07:26.02 | Ominous | addon.options.args.group.args..... etc |
07:26.39 | Sais | Will have a dig. Ta. |
07:26.49 | Arrowmaster | unless its a real dewdrop menu and not an aceoptions table |
07:27.06 | Sais | It's dynamically created, by the looks of things |
07:27.18 | Sais | (I assume that's what you mean) |
07:27.43 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: but I've found mumble to be incredibly clear |
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07:27.59 | Wobin | it appears to have very good noise cancelling algorithms |
07:28.00 | Sais | Wobin: That sounds tautological! |
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07:28.20 | Wobin | I don't think you mean that word in the way it means =) |
07:28.34 | Arrowmaster | the ASIO noise cancelling looks cool |
07:28.39 | RaydenUnicyclist | destromath just go down? |
07:29.18 | Sais | Wobin: Probably not. I couldn't think of the term "oxymoron" until just now. |
07:29.36 | Sais | But I wouldn't want to call you oxymoronic, now... |
07:29.53 | Wobin | A tautology is 'always true' =) |
07:30.30 | ckknight | lol, FryGuy-, that was neat |
07:30.32 | Sais | I think I originally learnt it as meaning "self-contradictory"...and that's stuck. |
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07:31.38 | Arrowmaster | wow this mumble looks to have a ton of configuration optins |
07:31.53 | Wobin | yeah =) and it works out of the box for me |
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07:31.56 | Wobin | which is amazing =P |
07:33.07 | Arrowmaster | does it do volume normalization? |
07:33.20 | Wobin | howso? |
07:33.30 | Wobin | I don't think it does individual volume settings, though |
07:34.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | sucks when you crit SWD for 2700 and pull aggro from the boss |
07:35.47 | Arrowmaster | well in vent some people tend to have their outbound high and others low, when we guild merged it seemed that everybody from my previous guild all had ours configured to have around the same volume and so did the guild we merged with but they were all much much louder than we were |
07:35.49 | Fisker- | can it be raeps tiem now Wobin? |
07:37.13 | Arrowmaster | and it sucks turning speaker volume up so i can hear somebody that was a little low and having some asshole saying stupid shit extremely loud afterwards |
07:37.39 | Wobin | I thought vent allowed you to specify a volume for each player? |
07:37.49 | Wobin | granted, it's fiddly to do it with everyone |
07:37.52 | Wobin | but the option was there |
07:37.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
07:38.19 | Arrowmaster | thats what i do, but the volume adjustments suck |
07:38.35 | Arrowmaster | i have to turn people up to 200% just to get a slight increase |
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07:48.09 | Jaxon | Okay, so I'm looking at Cheeky's Spreadsheet and "upgrading" from Steelhawk Crossbow to Merciless Gladiator's Crossbow of the Phoenix is a very, very slight DPS drop, wtf. |
07:48.59 | Grum | doesnt it severly depends on specs ? :) |
07:49.13 | Grum | what's the url for the speadsheet btw? |
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07:50.06 | Jaxon | Grum: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t9816-hunter_spreadsheets_development/ |
07:50.33 | Grum | lets see how badly openoffice will choke on that bastard ;D |
07:51.13 | Jaxon | Bad, I think. |
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07:52.29 | ennuilg | Vontre's new mage spreadsheet, erm, doesn't work too well on OO. either... :-( |
07:54.52 | Grum | hehe bad indeed |
07:55.20 | Grum | manually-killing-was-needed-because-pc-started-to-beep-so-loud-coworkers-were-staring-at-me O.o |
07:55.38 | Jaxon | Yeah, its pretty heavy. |
07:56.08 | Grum | humz my brain hurts - i need an effective way to do 'line square' intersections |
07:56.23 | Grum | i can think of many ineffective ways .. but there always seem to be room for 'improvement' :D |
07:58.59 | mitch0 | grum: do 4xline-line intersections? :) |
07:59.11 | Grum | yup that is the ineffective way =D |
08:00.08 | mitch0 | nah, the ineffecitve way is plotting the square then plotting the line and see if you plot on a place already plotted on by the square :) |
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08:00.33 | Grum | how are those 2 solutions different? ;D |
08:00.58 | mitch0 | erm, the first one could be solved by 4 equations |
08:01.12 | mitch0 | actually, 3 |
08:01.15 | mitch0 | at most |
08:01.20 | Grum | hmm 3? :) |
08:01.32 | mitch0 | you won't usually have a line intersect a square on all its edges |
08:01.39 | mitch0 | or you live in some strange geometry |
08:02.05 | Grum | well in max 2 :) |
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08:02.12 | Grum | so if you know *which 2* .. ;D |
08:02.22 | mitch0 | that's why it's at most 3 :) |
08:02.25 | abbat_w | !c eu warsong immoralist |
08:02.30 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/5/56). 10073 HP; 8591 Mana; 125 mana regen; 128 spell crit; 41 spell hit; 848 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; 494 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 709 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ytd85 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bavfk ]] |
08:02.50 | mitch0 | actually, there is a corner case when the line fits on one of the edges. then you might need to check 4 times |
08:02.53 | abbat_w | heh, updated! |
08:03.09 | Dynom | abbat_w: russian ? |
08:03.11 | Grum | not really .. i think |
08:03.18 | abbat_w | Dynom, yes |
08:03.37 | Dynom | I left Russong because of the 'new inhabitabs' |
08:03.42 | Dynom | over a year ago |
08:04.05 | abbat_w | Hmm.. it was always 'russian' server, not? |
08:04.15 | mitch0 | did 2.2 go live? |
08:04.20 | Dynom | why would a server located in europe be russian |
08:04.24 | Dynom | but no, it wasn't |
08:04.24 | abbat_w | nope, mitch0 |
08:04.39 | [Ammo] | all those 'it's my countries' server supporters should be shot in the face |
08:04.39 | ennuilg | Large Russian population, rather than "Russian server". |
08:04.44 | abbat_w | Dynom, why eu servers are finnish or swedish? |
08:04.59 | Dynom | but the fun kinda left when you got booted from a party just because you didn't speak russian |
08:05.02 | abbat_w | If exists swe/fin/not servers, why not russian? |
08:05.28 | ggilbert | abbat_w: I'd guess lack of demand |
08:05.31 | Dynom | officially there are english, french and german servers |
08:05.42 | abbat_w | Dynom, how many russian ppl got booted from a party just because they didn't speak english? |
08:05.45 | Dynom | because there are french, german and english clients |
08:05.48 | Grum | people should get shot for not speaking english on an english realm |
08:05.57 | [Ammo] | I'm glad Kazzak EU is normal |
08:06.02 | abbat_w | Dynom, oficially Blizzard don't restrict languages in /1, /2 etc |
08:06.04 | [Ammo] | and everyone not speaking english gets a boot in the face there |
08:06.07 | ennuilg | Spanish too Dynom. |
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08:06.22 | Dynom | ennuilg: they do now? officially? or just spanish spoken on servers |
08:06.32 | Grum | [Ammo]: the worst are the dutchies |
08:06.35 | Grum | really .. *cry* |
08:06.51 | abbat_w | Ammo ;) |
08:06.57 | [Ammo] | I tend to ignore the dutch on /1 /2 |
08:07.01 | abbat_w | english is not 'world' language ;) |
08:07.02 | [Ammo] | all they say is stupid shit anyway |
08:07.09 | [Ammo] | it is in WoW |
08:07.13 | abbat_w | nope |
08:07.13 | Dynom | abbat_w: what language is ? |
08:07.16 | [Ammo] | live with it or gtfo my realm |
08:07.27 | abbat_w | Blizzard don't restrict any language |
08:07.27 | Dynom | abbat_w: read the server note, it says english spoken |
08:07.32 | abbat_w | And? |
08:07.32 | Grum | they should |
08:07.38 | Dynom | I know, but they did say it's prefered to talk english |
08:07.39 | Bruners | English is the world language on english servers eod |
08:07.46 | Grum | people should get banned really hard for picking stupid names and using non-english on public channels |
08:07.54 | abbat_w | Dynom, show me where Blizzard say 'if server marked as english ppl should speak at english' |
08:08.10 | Grum | show me where it says: please speak non-english :) |
08:08.12 | Dynom | abbat_w: I didn't say that, read what I wrote |
08:08.18 | Grum | eventhough the realm is dubbed english ;) |
08:08.23 | abbat_w | So, why you cry? :) |
08:08.36 | abbat_w | Try to live on dutch server or spanish or finnish |
08:08.56 | abbat_w | Try to understand something like 'perkelle kuppalla' ;) |
08:09.07 | Grum | try to kill them |
08:09.10 | Grum | oh .. :p |
08:09.17 | abbat_w | ;) |
08:09.18 | Dynom | abbat_w: where do you see me saying that I aprove that? |
08:09.25 | Grum | btw Omnibus > * |
08:09.26 | abbat_w | don't have a shotgun ;) |
08:09.46 | abbat_w | Dynom, reality is most ppl from Warsong just don't know english |
08:09.51 | abbat_w | It's just a russian kids |
08:09.58 | Dynom | I know, hence the reason I left it |
08:10.00 | ennuilg | @Dynom - don't think my IRC client is working properly for PMs... Yes, there are Spanish servers, a spanish client and spanish forums on wow-europe.com now. |
08:10.11 | Dynom | ennuilg: I didn't pm you |
08:10.22 | Dynom | ennuilg: an ok, didn't knew that |
08:10.23 | ennuilg | That'll explain something then! |
08:10.28 | Grum | localized clients also make me cry :) |
08:10.32 | Dynom | tbh they should do it for russians also |
08:10.35 | Grum | really why in the world would you want that? O.o |
08:10.42 | abbat_w | Dynom nope ;) |
08:10.54 | abbat_w | I always play in english client and like english notations |
08:10.55 | Dynom | abbat_w: if people don't speak russian.. how do they quest? |
08:11.00 | ennuilg | Well, I'm Spanish and I play on an English server, but I can understand why some of my compatriots would wish to play in their own language. |
08:11.05 | abbat_w | Even if i use russian language in /1 or /2 |
08:11.10 | Grum | ennuilg: well why? :) |
08:11.10 | Dynom | abbat_w: is there a website translating it all ? |
08:11.21 | Wobin | That hunter spreadsheet is ... epic |
08:11.23 | abbat_w | Hmm.. don't know |
08:11.29 | Grum | wobin: in size it is indeed :D |
08:11.31 | ennuilg | Because not everyone speaks English well enough for it not to affect their enjoyment of the game. |
08:11.41 | abbat_w | compatriots ;) |
08:11.44 | abbat_w | nice term ;) |
08:11.56 | abbat_w | ennuilg, what mean 'compatriot'? |
08:12.00 | Dynom | abbat_w: I kinda think it was weird, people can quest but not awnser the question: 'where are we going' 'You got kicked out of the party' |
08:12.01 | ennuilg | Countrymen. |
08:12.14 | abbat_w | Ahha ;) |
08:12.21 | abbat_w | compatriot ;) nice ;) |
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08:12.39 | Grum | Dynom: you had to pay for your char transfer? :) |
08:12.50 | Dynom | Grum: luckely, no :-] |
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08:12.58 | Dynom | Warsong had a >300 queue arond 20 |
08:12.59 | Dynom | :00 |
08:13.03 | abbat_w | Dynom, i see this not only from russian ppl. I play on anchimonde @ us. Same was there. English ppl kick non-english spoken ppl from party |
08:13.04 | Dynom | so it had free transfers |
08:13.24 | Grum | abbat_w: why would you want someone in your party who can not speak english? |
08:13.38 | Dynom | in my experiance people don't get kicked because their native language isn't english, but because they can't communicate in english |
08:13.42 | Grum | the likely also dont understand english and will be a total retard ingame :p |
08:13.44 | abbat_w | Why wold russian ppl want someone who don't speak russian? |
08:13.46 | abbat_w | It's ok ;) |
08:13.52 | ggilbert | abbat_w: they wouldn't |
08:13.58 | Dynom | abbat_w: it kinda sucks to say: tank that, and your tank replying: que? |
08:14.04 | ggilbert | unless they speak a common language |
08:14.12 | abbat_w | je parle francais un peut ;) |
08:14.16 | ennuilg | TBH, it tends to be _how_ it's done, rather than the fact it's done at all. |
08:14.18 | Dynom | abbat_w: exectemunto |
08:14.50 | abbat_w | all ppl want to spoke on native language |
08:14.58 | [Ammo] | no |
08:14.59 | Dynom | not true |
08:15.05 | [Ammo] | I don't ever want to speak dutch in WoW |
08:15.08 | abbat_w | Why swedish ppl should speak on english if they want to speak on swedish? |
08:15.29 | Dynom | I play an MMO because I like to play with other people from other countries, not because I want to play with my fellow country members |
08:15.30 | abbat_w | It's ok. Same for all other languages/countries |
08:15.44 | Aens|Superiority | because it is a terrible feeling to wipe because someone in the party didn't understand instructions |
08:15.49 | abbat_w | Dynom, same for me. But not all ppl play for the same |
08:16.01 | Dynom | I just came back from Norway, met a friend there in WoW and went to visit, I love it. New culture and enviroment, brings flavors to ones life imo. |
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08:16.16 | Dynom | abbat_w: I know, but imo those shouldn't play a world MMO |
08:16.29 | Dynom | abbat_w: or at least not obstruct it |
08:16.50 | Dynom | so I blame blizzard for not making specified servers for that, not the people that can't speak the language |
08:16.52 | abbat_w | I think we should understand what not all ppl speak english. And it's ok |
08:17.43 | Dynom | ofcourse, and that is no problem at all. But if people don't understand eachother they don't work well together, and thats quite a crucial part in MMO's... |
08:19.02 | abbat_w | anyway i like to play with international ppl an xrealms bgs ;) |
08:19.12 | Grum | people speaking their native tongue in mmos are nationalistic pigs! =D |
08:19.20 | abbat_w | i don't like if someone told something like 'hey, l2speak english' ;) |
08:19.30 | Grum | (except when it's english ofc .. then they are just pigs) |
08:19.51 | abbat_w | Oh yeah. I don't like nazism, niggers and jews |
08:19.51 | Dynom | Grum: you are the 'making friends' kinda person aren't you. |
08:20.02 | abbat_w | =) |
08:20.13 | Dynom | that better be a joke |
08:20.37 | ennuilg | I think the second line shows it was said with tongue in cheek... |
08:20.57 | abbat_w | aahhha ;) |
08:21.09 | Grum | Dynom: tact isn't my middle name :P |
08:21.09 | Dynom | thats spanish for 'lol' or. ? |
08:21.12 | abbat_w | Heh, guys. Visit India ;) |
08:21.16 | Dynom | Grum: you don't say... :D |
08:21.32 | abbat_w | 400 km and no one understand idish dialect which was perfect understanded before ;) |
08:21.39 | Grum | but just deny it .. it is so true! ;D |
08:21.46 | abbat_w | 400 km to other side and again no one understand you ;) |
08:22.10 | Dynom | same in my country, only thats because 400km and you passed the border |
08:22.20 | abbat_w | Where you live? |
08:22.23 | Dynom | holland |
08:22.46 | abbat_w | huh |
08:23.01 | abbat_w | Specific dialects? |
08:24.01 | [Ammo] | oh there are |
08:24.08 | [Ammo] | there's fries (the major dialect) |
08:24.13 | Dynom | noooooo |
08:24.15 | [Ammo] | and there's twents! |
08:24.17 | Dynom | read what I wrote |
08:24.23 | Dynom | 400km means you are over the border |
08:24.26 | [Ammo] | yeah |
08:24.33 | [Ammo] | but abbaat asked for dialects :) |
08:24.35 | Dynom | meaning you swim with the fishies, or have to speak german or french |
08:24.43 | Dynom | or dansk |
08:24.47 | Dynom | but thats more like 600km |
08:25.03 | abbat_w | I have friend from India |
08:25.18 | abbat_w | He told me what in India about 100 different dialects |
08:25.33 | Dynom | no suprise there |
08:25.39 | Dynom | doesn't china has the most btw? |
08:25.44 | abbat_w | And ppl didn't understand ;) |
08:25.53 | abbat_w | Maybe China has the most btw |
08:26.27 | abbat_w | Don't know about this. But anyway, it's a real problem ;) Much harder then someone don't understand another ppl in WoW ;) |
08:26.48 | Dynom | yeh, I don't get it why people like it tbh |
08:28.47 | pb_ee1 | Morning |
08:29.09 | abbat_w | morning ;) |
08:29.18 | Dynom | howdy |
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08:32.18 | RaydenUnicyclist | stupid alliance |
08:32.31 | RaydenUnicyclist | it's very annoying that you can be indefinately sapped inside a neutral city |
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08:32.56 | ennuilg | Blizz really need to make sap a hostile action... |
08:33.00 | Dynom | yeh, those alliance. Bastards! every single one of them! |
08:33.07 | [dRaCo] | don't play on pvp servers ^^ |
08:33.36 | Dynom | btw, on pve servers, is it possible to raid with both factions? |
08:33.43 | ennuilg | Nope. |
08:33.44 | Dynom | I've never played on one |
08:34.03 | Dynom | kinda figured, would be quite imba |
08:34.12 | [dRaCo] | it's like pvp, but without the pvp |
08:34.19 | [dRaCo] | if you know, what I mean |
08:34.26 | Dynom | well and you can talk with eachother right ? |
08:34.30 | [dRaCo] | no |
08:34.30 | ennuilg | Nope. |
08:34.32 | Fisker- | a wild Fisker- appears |
08:34.35 | Fisker- | what are you going to do? |
08:34.40 | Dynom | you can't? |
08:34.41 | Dynom | that sucks |
08:34.42 | [dRaCo] | shoot him! |
08:34.49 | Dynom | was thar rp servers then? |
08:34.52 | Dynom | that* |
08:34.52 | RaydenUnicyclist | it is the same as pvp |
08:34.57 | Dynom | hm |
08:35.01 | RaydenUnicyclist | you just can't attack the other side unless they are flagged |
08:35.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | or they are in your side's zone? |
08:35.14 | RaydenUnicyclist | like alliance in durotar? |
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08:35.19 | ennuilg | On PvE, you can have characters in both factions, so you can log an alt and talk, but you can't talk directly across factions. |
08:35.26 | [dRaCo] | rp is the same as pvp, but without the pvp and the totally stupid names. |
08:35.29 | Dynom | ennuilg: ahhhh right, that was it |
08:36.25 | Diao | isn't rp the same as pve |
08:36.27 | Diao | >.> |
08:36.56 | Dynom | well at elast they require you to be dworf in real life as well if you play dworf char |
08:37.04 | ennuilg | lol |
08:37.37 | [dRaCo] | rp has a stricter naming policy |
08:37.41 | [dRaCo] | that's about it |
08:37.49 | Fisker- | I NEED BIOSHOCK |
08:38.01 | ennuilg | !c eu bloodhoof ennui |
08:38.09 | ThraeBot | ennuilg: Ennui, Level 70 Human Mage (10/48/3). 6113 HP; 8381 Mana; 165 mana regen; 4 mp5; 298 spell crit; 72 spell hit; 876 +spell dmg; 222 arcane dmg (1098); 271 fire dmg (1147); 5.26% dodge; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 702 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywrgy9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2k5j8w ]] |
08:39.03 | ennuilg | Pfft... Logged out with my Riding Crop equipped. |
08:39.33 | abbat_w | !๑ eu warsong immoralist |
08:39.46 | abbat_w | logged out with pvp gear ;) |
08:40.43 | ennuilg | Pushing 1200 fire damage and then I log out with my stupid trinkets wrong. How ever am I supposed to show off if I make stupid mistakes like that!? :-) |
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08:44.41 | pb_ee1 | dev.wowace.com offline? |
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08:51.08 | Benihime | can anyone tell me how i can get more textures going in Pitbull ? |
08:51.23 | Benihime | bar textures (health,power) |
08:51.39 | [dRaCo] | install sharedmedialib |
08:52.00 | Benihime | it has it |
08:52.02 | evl | actually that won't add _more_ textures |
08:52.09 | evl | bigwigs has a shitload e.g |
08:52.12 | Benihime | in the Pitbull directori |
08:54.34 | Benihime | it worked i had a few textures when i was using Quartz but i replaced it now for some non-ace addon to try it out and now i have only 3 textures and they're bad looking |
08:54.44 | Dynom | haha, http://bash.org/?795779 <-- soo true |
08:54.53 | [dRaCo] | oh, right... sharedmedialib only shares those textures |
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08:55.07 | Grum | for Solarian - does the raid need 150 arcane resistance atm? |
08:56.00 | [dRaCo] | Benihime: if you liked quartz' textures, dl quartz and use its textures |
08:56.07 | [Ammo] | Grum: we don't |
08:56.14 | [Ammo] | we took him down first time last night |
08:56.18 | [Ammo] | just zerg'd |
08:56.21 | [Ammo] | which gets changed in 2.2 |
08:56.31 | [Ammo] | him => her ofcourse |
08:56.39 | Grum | werent the bolts random from 2.1 already? |
08:56.58 | [Ammo] | the debuff gets changed |
08:57.17 | Tyaneas | Goodmorning. I remember an addon which lets you create macros to eat drink use items without specifying their names but keywords. Can't remember the name. Any help ? |
08:57.18 | Benihime | well i replaced quartz if i dw it again i'll have to use it right ? |
08:57.20 | Grum | in what way? |
08:57.26 | [Ammo] | dunno |
08:57.47 | Grum | humz so in 2.2 you need 150 AR? |
08:58.02 | [Ammo] | Benihime: download the SharedMedia addon |
08:58.06 | [Ammo] | it contains 20+ textures |
08:58.09 | [Ammo] | to choose from |
08:58.14 | [Ammo] | Grum: no idea |
08:58.18 | [Ammo] | right now you 'need' 0 |
08:58.25 | Grum | humz k |
08:58.35 | Grum | just on the tanks? |
08:58.36 | evl | Grum: Zerg just requires a LOT of DPS. |
08:58.46 | [Ammo] | not even on tanks |
08:58.53 | evl | Grum: no ar at all, you can put some AR on the very low level hp raiders, the ones below 9.5k |
08:59.01 | Grum | humz |
08:59.11 | evl | Grum: just make sure you have enough dps :P |
08:59.12 | [Ammo] | just zerg an make sure you get below 70% on first adds, below 40% on second and 20% before third |
08:59.17 | Benihime | 10x ammo |
08:59.35 | Grum | how much raid-dps would that take? :P |
08:59.45 | evl | everyone going all out with flasks, pots and food |
08:59.52 | Grum | is that fight a simple tank and spank fight orso ? O.o |
08:59.58 | [Ammo] | no it's more like aran |
09:00.00 | [Ammo] | can't tank her |
09:00.02 | [Ammo] | so all out from start |
09:00.04 | evl | she does the arcane missiles |
09:00.13 | evl | she's very weak to melee |
09:00.23 | evl | so obviously 4 good geared rogues will get you a long way |
09:00.26 | evl | and dps warriors are <3 there |
09:00.37 | [Ammo] | we brought 7 AoE as well |
09:00.40 | [Ammo] | 4 mages 3 locks |
09:00.48 | [Ammo] | 3 rogues |
09:01.06 | Grum | you can just walk there like to VR right? |
09:01.15 | [Ammo] | yeah with soem trash |
09:01.15 | evl | yeah, trash is easy |
09:01.19 | evl | compared to VR trash imho |
09:01.34 | [Ammo] | it's kinda harder due to mind control |
09:01.35 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
09:01.39 | [Ammo] | it's easy all in all |
09:02.02 | evl | nothing is worse than those fucking frag grenades + sawblades |
09:02.03 | Arrowmaster | we tried the zerg strat on solarian, i hated it and next time were doing the double AR soaker tank strat |
09:02.25 | evl | Arrowmaster: we tried the AR tanking for a night and took her down with zerg on second attempt. |
09:02.41 | [Ammo] | evl: that's because we have people with a lack of brain |
09:02.46 | [Ammo] | that can only do one job |
09:02.48 | Arrowmaster | our raid went boom with zerg strat |
09:02.50 | evl | yeah |
09:02.52 | [Ammo] | so if we adjust the strat for that :) |
09:02.56 | evl | tactics that require less brain = good :P |
09:03.11 | [Ammo] | bunch up on her for zerg srat |
09:03.21 | Arrowmaster | tactics that dont allow you to get 1shot from random arcane missles = good |
09:03.21 | [Ammo] | -> no need to move raid when priests come |
09:03.40 | evl | Arrowmaster: problem is you'll run out of AR by the 6th wave |
09:03.54 | Grum | how do you mean evl? |
09:04.04 | Arrowmaster | im not talking about the 150AR strat |
09:04.06 | evl | She applies a -15 AR buff every "round" |
09:04.11 | Arrowmaster | talking about the 500 AR strat |
09:04.25 | [Ammo] | the one with 2 AR tanks bouncing the debuff |
09:04.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
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09:04.34 | evl | Oh yeah we tried that |
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09:04.35 | [Ammo] | we tried that, but if one idiot doesn't move -> boom |
09:04.48 | [Ammo] | anyway, this is our 35% -> 0% from last night: http://thomas-k.net/wow/stuff/lol.avi |
09:04.52 | Sole | good evening (morning) |
09:05.01 | Grum | i just read: Wrath of the Astromancer: Debuff that does 600 damage every 2 seconds for 10 seconds. This also places another debuff that increases arcane damage done to you by 50% for 45 seconds. Will jump to nearest friendly target. (Pets and totems are able to take this debuff) |
09:05.02 | Sole | HI THOMAS K |
09:05.18 | Sole | ooh |
09:05.19 | Arrowmaster | Grum: thats wrong, doesnt goto totems anymore |
09:05.24 | Arrowmaster | i tested |
09:05.26 | Grum | does that mean that when you 'group up' you most likely get an instant death when she arcane bolts someone? :p |
09:05.29 | Sole | thats like the hakkar debuff |
09:05.33 | [Ammo] | Grum: not really |
09:05.33 | evl | snake traps work? :P |
09:05.44 | Sole | Who remembers the days of the ZG plague? |
09:06.02 | [Ammo] | just dps harder before it becomes a problem |
09:06.02 | Grum | well it will be 15k dmg then in 1 hits |
09:06.02 | Sole | < started it on blackrock aww yeah aww yeah |
09:06.02 | Grum | erm 3 hits |
09:06.02 | [Ammo] | iit becomes a problem if you don't get her to 20% before 3rd add wave |
09:06.02 | Arrowmaster | Grum: when you group up it means everybodys probably going to have the +50% debuff on them |
09:06.04 | Sole | guess nobody remembers it :( |
09:06.07 | evl | [Ammo]: I think the zerg tactic will work better as we get better gear tbh |
09:06.13 | [Ammo] | evl: indeed |
09:06.19 | Grum | Arrowmaster: thus 1 AR bolt will hit for 5k |
09:06.20 | evl | [Ammo]: one more round in SSC will bring upgrades to a lot of people |
09:06.25 | Arrowmaster | 6k |
09:06.31 | evl | [Ammo]: Forgot to get arena points so I can't respec swords :D |
09:06.35 | Grum | 3.5*1.5 = 5.25 ;) |
09:06.38 | Arrowmaster | er |
09:06.50 | [Ammo] | it's not a problem if you get her to 20% before 3rd adds |
09:06.54 | [Ammo] | you might lose a few |
09:06.56 | [Ammo] | we lost a few :) |
09:07.00 | evl | if you get to 20% it's a kill |
09:07.00 | Arrowmaster | wait not its 3k i think because i remember it hitting for 6k at +100% |
09:07.01 | evl | pretty much |
09:07.06 | evl | unless your tank is wearing paper helmet |
09:07.17 | evl | like KC |
09:07.18 | evl | ;D |
09:07.28 | Grum | humz so what does the debuff do? |
09:07.37 | Grum | from the text it only does +50% for 45s |
09:07.40 | Arrowmaster | +50% and stacks |
09:07.45 | Grum | oh ... that is one phase ofc |
09:07.49 | evl | no the raid wide debuff is -15 AR |
09:07.49 | [Ammo] | we had 4 dead at 20% |
09:08.04 | Arrowmaster | the raid wide -15 AR debuff that stacks isnt important |
09:08.11 | [Ammo] | zerging that is |
09:08.16 | Arrowmaster | its the stacking +50% debuff that kills people |
09:08.18 | [Ammo] | with 3 seconds left to 3rd add wave |
09:08.23 | Grum | humz isn't the fight so that you just have 6/7 healers fixing up 1 person? |
09:08.31 | [Ammo] | no |
09:08.32 | Arrowmaster | no |
09:08.40 | [Ammo] | you get your 3 pallies or something to spam flash heal assist solarian |
09:08.48 | [Ammo] | and get the rest of the healers to heal the raid |
09:08.52 | [Ammo] | (if you zerg) |
09:08.58 | evl | palas rock in that fight btw |
09:08.59 | Grum | due to the 600dmg per 2s? |
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09:09.19 | Arrowmaster | thats 600dmg per 2s base |
09:09.20 | [Ammo] | no palas heal the arcane missiles |
09:09.27 | [Ammo] | the 600dmg can be healed by others |
09:09.33 | [Ammo] | paladins make sure the arcane missile targets live |
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09:09.37 | Arrowmaster | its not 600dmg for very long |
09:10.00 | Grum | it scales up? it's arcane dmg? :P |
09:10.28 | Arrowmaster | getting instagibed in 2seconds due to taking 4x1500 every 2s sucks |
09:10.33 | Arrowmaster | yes it scales |
09:10.54 | Arrowmaster | from the stacking +50% debuff that it applies |
09:11.40 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/schrodingers-jump/ that is awesome. |
09:11.46 | Arrowmaster | hench why i hate the zerg strat |
09:12.24 | Arrowmaster | have the +50% debuff on you stacked a few times and the adds are about to come out and you have people yelling at you to get with the group so you move to the group |
09:12.29 | Arrowmaster | then bam! |
09:12.34 | Grum | hehe |
09:12.39 | Arrowmaster | 4 wrath of the astromancers jump to you |
09:12.44 | [Ammo] | zerg = you're always in the group |
09:12.47 | Grum | what i read the other tactic would be playing 'tag' with the tanks |
09:12.47 | [Ammo] | you don't move out of it |
09:13.02 | Grum | when you get the debuff - run like mad to the 2 tanks .. have it jump off .. and run away again |
09:13.18 | Arrowmaster | each doing 1500 damage and you die when it ticks again in 2seconds |
09:13.59 | Arrowmaster | when we did the zerg strat i stayed the fuck away from the group when trying to get the +50% debuff to wear off of me |
09:14.16 | Arrowmaster | never worked though because people with it would move towards me for some fucking reason |
09:14.22 | Grum | how often is wrath cast? |
09:14.36 | Arrowmaster | not that often but once its cast it doesnt go away |
09:14.45 | Grum | so you toss it on the tanks right? |
09:14.47 | Grum | ideally |
09:15.18 | Arrowmaster | thats only if you use the 2x AR tank strat |
09:15.27 | Grum | it doesnt sound to hard .. but then again .. people can not even kill the bloody spitfire totems in time at Karathress |
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09:16.16 | Megalon | you will love those people, who need the whole 8 seconds |
09:16.25 | Megalon | to realize that THEY got the debuff |
09:16.27 | Megalon | :C |
09:16.30 | Grum | and have it spread :\ |
09:16.40 | Grum | ooooh i'll be shouting over ventrilo again |
09:16.42 | Grum | this will be fun |
09:16.45 | Arrowmaster | ive canceled my account because people cant even click boxes on mag |
09:16.57 | Grum | mag is ... stupid |
09:17.00 | Grum | the fight is random |
09:17.12 | Grum | from the first cubeclick it is layed out how the fight will go |
09:17.19 | Grum | if you get EQ,click .. you will have no problem |
09:17.20 | Arrowmaster | Grum: bigwigs has an annouce when she starts casting wrath and it says the target |
09:17.26 | Megalon | most people fail on the retard-checks |
09:17.27 | Megalon | :< |
09:17.31 | Grum | if you get click,10s,eq .. you know you will wipe |
09:17.35 | [Ammo] | hence we zerg solarian |
09:17.39 | [Ammo] | because people fail at noticing the debuff |
09:18.01 | Grum | with zerg you group up in dead-center and just KIIIIILLLL away? |
09:18.05 | [Ammo] | yeah |
09:18.17 | [Ammo] | and then when adds come you Piercing howl them seed them freeze them and seed more |
09:18.26 | [Ammo] | while rogues move to the portals for priest interrupts |
09:18.29 | [Ammo] | ad tank ofcourse |
09:18.41 | Grum | tbh if the debuff only jumps every ever 8 seconds |
09:18.43 | [Ammo] | rogue should be waiting at portal before priest spawns for heal kickage |
09:18.55 | Grum | yeah |
09:18.59 | Grum | that will be fun |
09:19.04 | Grum | luckliy we have good rogues :P |
09:19.21 | Grum | serisouly 2 warlocks managed to completely ignore the spitfire totems last night |
09:19.26 | Grum | on *all* attempts |
09:19.27 | Arrowmaster | we had an idea for a zerg strat that when you get the debuff you move off to one side of the group or something and then when your waiting for the +50% to wear off you move to the other side so the rest of the raid is between the people with it and the people waiting for it to wear off |
09:19.41 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: moving costs too much dps |
09:19.43 | Grum | how far will it jump? |
09:19.50 | [Ammo] | just bunch up and ignore it |
09:19.55 | Grum | and if it cant jump .. then what? |
09:19.58 | Arrowmaster | always goes to closest person |
09:19.59 | Megalon | Grum: it jumps to the nearest |
09:20.03 | Grum | humz k |
09:20.12 | [Ammo] | and you can't outrange it |
09:20.21 | Grum | well you can just have a fatty-AR-tank stand somewhere and catch it |
09:20.27 | [Ammo] | you need 2 grum |
09:20.29 | Grum | yeah ofc |
09:20.30 | [Ammo] | because it'll want to bounce |
09:20.43 | Grum | i wonder how fast the debuffs will stack on them |
09:20.50 | Grum | will it leave +50 every time it jumps? |
09:20.56 | [Ammo] | yeah |
09:20.56 | Arrowmaster | yes |
09:21.04 | Grum | if so - after 16s you will have+100... and +100 after another 16s :P |
09:21.26 | Grum | so before the first 'bubye' it will be +300% :\ |
09:21.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah you have to assign healers to just those tanks |
09:21.39 | [Ammo] | basically, if you use AR tanks you need to have people on the ball with the debuff |
09:21.44 | [Ammo] | if you zerg you ignore it completely |
09:22.04 | Grum | you get 1 wrath per 'phase' ? |
09:22.05 | Megalon | but if you learn the zerg strat now |
09:22.05 | Arrowmaster | we dont have the dps to zerg it |
09:22.09 | Grum | per per cycle |
09:22.13 | Megalon | you'll have to learn the other strat with the next patch |
09:22.20 | [Ammo] | depends on the change |
09:22.26 | [Ammo] | do we know the change to the debuff? |
09:22.27 | Grum | change is rather unclear to me |
09:22.34 | Grum | Patch notes from the 2.2 ptrs: |
09:22.34 | Grum | * The spells cast by High Astromancer Solarian have been extensively reworked. Wrath of the Astromancer is a now completely different in function. Mark of the Astromancer has been renamed to Light of the Astromancer and no longer reduces Arcane resistance. A player's Arcane Resistance now also provides normal damage mitigation to Solarian's spells. |
09:22.54 | Grum | how fast do you kill him in zerg-mode? |
09:22.56 | Grum | 3 minutes? |
09:23.06 | Grum | or how fast do you get him to 20%? |
09:23.13 | Arrowmaster | our dps somehow when to good to so shitty we cant kill hydross and if we kill voidreaver its right before he enrages and by right before i mean like 3 seconds |
09:23.44 | Grum | our dps is fluctuating badly, we killed VR in 7m52 and hydross in 7m flat (perfect aoe execution .. yay for extra tank) |
09:23.44 | evl | everyone hates voidreaver :P |
09:23.55 | Grum | and we wipe all night on gruul O.o |
09:24.17 | Arrowmaster | one hydross attempt last week he was going to enrage at like 40% |
09:24.28 | [Ammo] | Grum: we got him to 20% in zerg 3 seconds before 3rd adds |
09:24.50 | Grum | so that is 50+50+47s in the fight? |
09:24.53 | [Ammo] | yeah |
09:25.03 | Grum | Health: 3,000,000 |
09:25.23 | [Ammo] | after that it's simple tank and spank with some added void bolt madness |
09:25.32 | Grum | 16326.53 raiddps O.o |
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09:25.57 | Grum | is he really like 'aran' with nice low armor? :P |
09:26.11 | Grum | so hunters/rogues/warriors/ferals do dps like maaad? |
09:27.25 | [Ammo] | yes |
09:27.39 | Grum | assuming you have 3 tanks, 7 healers .. that is 15 dps .. that is ~1090dps per dps-er |
09:28.02 | Iceroth | ouch |
09:28.14 | Iceroth | we'll never kill that guy then :D |
09:28.23 | Arrowmaster | same |
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09:29.00 | Arrowmaster | our 10th on dmg tends to be about half of 1st |
09:29.03 | Grum | well if hunters/rogues get the same dmgboost as they get from aran |
09:29.15 | Iceroth | someone said solarian is going to require 100-200 AR for everyone after 2.2, is that true? |
09:29.21 | [Ammo] | he might |
09:29.23 | Grum | yeah i've heard 150 as well |
09:29.24 | [Ammo] | but that's easy |
09:29.28 | Grum | 150 is a piss |
09:29.30 | [Ammo] | with the sta + AR trinket |
09:29.31 | [Ammo] | etc |
09:29.35 | Grum | yup |
09:29.42 | Arrowmaster | ive got like 10ar |
09:29.49 | [Ammo] | I have 10AR without gear! |
09:29.51 | [Ammo] | gnome ftw |
09:29.59 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: you should have the Violet thing |
09:30.05 | [Ammo] | the 45AR 32sta trinket |
09:30.05 | Arrowmaster | because i dont have the inventory space to craft real ar gear |
09:30.14 | Arrowmaster | i never turned in that quest, still have it |
09:30.18 | [Ammo] | bonk |
09:30.26 | Arrowmaster | no inventory space |
09:30.42 | Grum | ring/neck/trinket is already 105AR |
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09:31.11 | Grum | cloak added .. 137 :) |
09:31.22 | Grum | all craftables or quest items |
09:31.35 | CIA-14 | 03arkayenro * r47175 10ArkInventory/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
09:31.35 | CIA-14 | ArkInventory: |
09:31.35 | CIA-14 | - 2.09 |
09:32.11 | [Ammo] | this is one of the top zerg logs on WWS: http://www.wowwebstats.com/wws/?report=mq3q6l5f2twrc&s=1436-1672 |
09:32.54 | [Ammo] | reason is they only took 4 minutes |
09:33.21 | [Ammo] | although they use AR tanks as well |
09:33.21 | [Ammo] | meh |
09:33.24 | [Ammo] | ohwell |
09:33.26 | [Ammo] | then I dunno |
09:33.34 | dreamss | do u guys hapen to know if u can play the wc3 campains after u install tft? |
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09:35.07 | cncfanatics | yo all |
09:35.18 | cncfanatics | can someone tell me how to disable standby mode ? without slashcommands or dewdrop thingy |
09:36.27 | Grecasi | Anyone I can talk to about forum register problem, not getting activation e-mails? |
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09:38.45 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: self:ToggleActive() |
09:39.04 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: maybe self:ToggleActive(true) |
09:42.56 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, thank you |
09:46.03 | CIA-14 | 03elkano * r47176 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua ElkBuffBars.toc): |
09:46.03 | CIA-14 | ElkBuffBars |
09:46.03 | CIA-14 | - added X-Donate |
09:46.03 | CIA-14 | - added more upvalues |
09:46.03 | CIA-14 | - corrected a few typos and globals |
09:46.04 | CIA-14 | - reordered DewDrop menu |
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09:51.20 | cncfanatics | whats better, postal or postman ? |
09:54.34 | [Ammo] | bulkmail2 and bulkmail2inbox |
09:55.17 | cncfanatics | heh |
09:55.18 | cncfanatics | roger |
09:57.18 | nevcairiel | ct_mailmod imho |
09:59.41 | [Ammo] | bulkmail2 is kinda funky with the autofilter sending |
09:59.51 | [Ammo] | 1 click to send all predefined things to the correct banking alts |
10:05.43 | CIA-14 | 03nargiddley * r47177 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Options.lua Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua): |
10:05.43 | CIA-14 | Baggins: Add 'Allow Duplicates' option to section, this will override the global Hide Duplicate items for a specific section |
10:05.43 | CIA-14 | - Enable Allow Duplicates on the 'New' Sections in the default profiles |
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10:32.24 | Mikk | cncfanatics: postal is very nice if you just want a sane mailbox with oneclick sending. if you want filtered bulk mail n stuff, yeah, bulkmail2 |
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10:36.48 | Godzmack | interesting |
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10:48.19 | sb | Kemayo: GuildList and FriendLust are not in filelist.wau & source.wau |
10:48.50 | sb | morning ;p |
10:53.01 | ennuilg | "FriendLust"... Now that's Freudian! |
10:53.25 | abbat_w | bloodlust ;) |
10:56.24 | Tornhoof | as long as he does not name the files manlust and lust-from-behind.lua ;) |
11:01.25 | Grum | as long as you dont have a 'soap.lua' on the floor there should be no problem |
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11:03.11 | sb | is it possible to make some 'zone check' in macros? |
11:03.32 | sb | so it only gets executed if currentZone matches "crappy instance" |
11:03.32 | sb | ? |
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11:12.17 | pb_ee1 | sb: no i don't think s |
11:12.18 | pb_ee1 | so * |
11:12.26 | sb | hm :( |
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11:12.52 | sb | dont want to spam shattraht if i accidently press my 'tainted core' macro :p |
11:13.33 | Diao | hmm |
11:13.38 | Diao | bosswhisperer isn't saving settings |
11:13.46 | Diao | i keep telling it to hide the text/colored text on fubar |
11:13.49 | Diao | and every reload/relog |
11:13.56 | Diao | the text shows up again |
11:14.54 | [Ammo] | probably isn't useing AceDB |
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11:35.42 | calvin_ | Anyone up at this hour? |
11:36.01 | Punkie` | it's every hour |
11:36.03 | calvin_ | =) |
11:36.11 | Punkie` | for me it's 12:36pm |
11:36.33 | [dRaCo] | international channel, there's no "this" hour :) |
11:36.57 | calvin_ | Im having an issue w/ omen as main tank... i see everyones threat ok but they dont see me move ever... sometimes i show up at first then slide off or not on at all... I use pitbull/omen.. does having the 2 witht heir own threat lib have an effect? |
11:37.00 | calvin_ | :) |
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11:37.19 | calvin_ | Ive been trying to solve this damn prob the last 2 days, thought id try irc out |
11:37.40 | calvin_ | Any thoughts etc Ill def take |
11:37.49 | Punkie` | If they are both at the current revision there should be no problem |
11:37.58 | calvin_ | Not afraid to do the work, but damn I need a push in some direction here hehe |
11:38.08 | calvin_ | Ya they def are, I update every day |
11:38.12 | Diao | hm |
11:38.20 | Diao | they share a threat lib |
11:38.28 | Diao | shouldn't |
11:38.32 | Diao | be having any problems |
11:38.33 | calvin_ | do they share one or does each have an embedde done? |
11:38.36 | Diao | as long as they're targetting the same monster |
11:38.41 | Diao | only 1 loads even if you use embedded |
11:38.43 | calvin_ | *embedded |
11:38.46 | calvin_ | rgr |
11:38.53 | calvin_ | should i install the threat-1.0 lib? |
11:38.59 | calvin_ | would that help? |
11:39.00 | Punkie` | Have you tried just not using Pitbull? |
11:39.06 | Jaxon | If he isn't syncing properly, maybe he is hitting the cap on the addon communication limits? |
11:39.19 | [dRaCo] | works fine here using pb and omen... |
11:39.34 | calvin_ | on my lock its perfect using both |
11:39.39 | [dRaCo] | and well, if his own threat doesnt show up |
11:39.42 | Punkie` | I wouldn't touch Pitbull with a bargepole :P |
11:39.50 | calvin_ | My next test ws to not tank, have someone else and i just dps, see if i sahow up ok |
11:39.57 | calvin_ | ya they see nothing |
11:40.04 | calvin_ | they are all well above my level |
11:40.12 | [dRaCo] | any errors? |
11:40.14 | Punkie` | calvin_: It could just be as simple as resetting your settings for both Pitbull and Omen |
11:40.14 | calvin_ | if theres any logs etc i can do to give more info pls let me know |
11:40.38 | calvin_ | Pucmel, ive already nuked both tonight to tryt hat tomorrow, thx for the tip |
11:41.03 | Punkie` | You need to tab better with 250+ people in this channel :p |
11:41.03 | calvin_ | [dRaCo], you know the sec you asked that i remembered i disabled lua errors, ill reenable that as well (allt hese tips are helping guys) |
11:41.05 | Diao | did you try running only 1 or the other |
11:41.09 | calvin_ | *punkie |
11:41.32 | Punkie` | The only thing I can think of is if one has flagged threatlib to be disabled somehow |
11:42.04 | calvin_ | well before i inquire too much let me do the suggestions already given and that way i can come back and at least have more info for you all |
11:42.13 | Punkie` | Do you know how to properly delete your settings etc? |
11:42.37 | calvin_ | Punkie`, yessir... basically I search WTF for "omen", "pitbull" |
11:42.44 | calvin_ | and i nuked everythng I saw |
11:42.50 | Punkie` | Yeah, that should do it |
11:42.52 | [dRaCo] | calvin_: if you get any errors, install bugsack and buggrabber and get us a debug trace |
11:43.12 | calvin_ | Everyone, thx so much for the guidance, I will do that [dRaCo] |
11:43.30 | Elkano | there was an addon that needed advanced tooltips turned on... anyone remembers its name? |
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11:43.48 | Punkie` | calvin_: Just a note, you may have 'Disable Lua Errors' ticked in the interface options... meaning you get no errors :) |
11:43.57 | [dRaCo] | he had |
11:44.07 | [dRaCo] | [13:42:22] (calvin_): [dRaCo], you know the sec you asked that i remembered i disabled lua errors, ill reenable that as well (allt hese tips are helping guys) |
11:44.14 | calvin_ | Punkie`, ya earlier in this chat I mentioned that I realized i did infact diable it, so yer correct... i will enable that as well |
11:44.25 | calvin_ | there ya go hehe |
11:45.48 | calvin_ | Well you all have given me a direction t go and i thank you... let me collect this new data and see what you all can make of it... should i find the problem ill also pop in and update you what worked and didn't... |
11:46.02 | calvin_ | have a great day/night everyone... as you can tell im very grateful =) |
11:46.08 | calvin_ | *to |
11:46.20 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
11:46.25 | Punkie` | cya |
11:46.26 | Fisker- | A wild Fisker- appears |
11:46.28 | calvin_ | \m/ |
11:47.56 | Punkie` | Oh noes, my Fisker- is evolving. |
11:48.02 | Punkie` | ownt Fisker-. |
11:50.56 | Tornhoof | teenage mutant hero ninja fisker? |
11:51.09 | Punkie` | no, he's only level 2 |
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11:52.59 | Fisker- | you can't halt my evolve :( |
11:53.01 | Fisker- | stupid Punkie` |
11:53.16 | Elkano | OMG, it's talking... |
11:53.28 | Punkie` | Fisker-: too slow, i pressed B |
11:53.47 | Tornhoof | as long as it is not mating, there is no problem elkano |
11:54.00 | Punkie` | Fisker-: I'm not going to use you for any other fights, no exp for you |
11:54.07 | Punkie` | btw I stored you in my computer |
11:55.10 | Fisker- | :( |
11:55.25 | Punkie` | Fisker-: you die in the game you die for real |
11:58.44 | sb | reminds me of "in the real world, when you kill people they die - for real!" - nice movie :p |
11:59.27 | sb | :( |
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12:15.05 | Jaxon | And cooking at 375. |
12:15.12 | Hjalte | Anyone else having problems with the latest Baggins r47177 ? |
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12:16.37 | Sole | lol a priest is trying to prove that rogues are overpowered |
12:16.46 | Sole | and we were barely hit by resilience |
12:16.59 | Sole | I love stupid people |
12:18.57 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r47178 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua Core.lua): Bartender3: remove library embeding, call them directly and cheat them into thinking we embeded them |
12:20.48 | sb | uhm yes, nerf rogues and warlocks! |
12:21.01 | |Pixel| | and hunters |
12:21.26 | nevcairiel | just buff druids, no need to nerf 8 classes for them :) |
12:21.51 | abbat_w | buff rogues, buff druids |
12:21.57 | abbat_w | rebuild locks, they are crap |
12:22.16 | abbat_w | but good geared druids is ok ;) |
12:22.25 | abbat_w | rogues really need buff in pvp |
12:23.23 | Pheredhel | nerf healadins *just adding something |
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12:24.57 | Keya | buff priests - too many quiting the game |
12:25.20 | abbat_w | priests is ok, not? |
12:25.26 | abbat_w | what you want to buff? |
12:26.21 | Grum | priests are kinda limited endgame |
12:26.27 | Grum | and are getting more of a tool than anything else |
12:26.29 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 * r47179 10/tags/ChatLog/: ChatLog: Creating folder. |
12:26.37 | Grum | 'mana batteries or raidhealers' |
12:26.46 | pb_ee1 | shoot |
12:27.25 | abbat_w | hmm... |
12:27.26 | Grum | just give priests +20% stamina orso, we might actually prove useful if we get rid of that stupid squishiness |
12:27.34 | abbat_w | my friend play by priest |
12:27.42 | abbat_w | they run pvp only and use shadow spec |
12:27.49 | abbat_w | they like priest as class |
12:27.55 | Grum | always: 'oooh priest *CLEAVE*' - dead priest! |
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12:28.05 | abbat_w | in pve? |
12:28.10 | Grum | it hardly ever happens that i am not one-shotted |
12:28.11 | Grum | yeah |
12:28.15 | abbat_w | it's ok ;) |
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12:28.27 | abbat_w | every class in pve now one shot ;) |
12:28.32 | Industrial | ~seen Ambient |
12:28.36 | purl | ambient <hyppanen@jumi.lut.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 902d 1h 5m 38s ago, saying: 'or xorg.conf'. |
12:28.36 | Grum | not really |
12:28.40 | Industrial | .. |
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12:28.41 | Grum | oh well depends what kind of dmg you put against it |
12:29.17 | Grum | and gruul missed me twice in a row while being @ grow 16 last time we killed him =D |
12:29.33 | Grum | i was begging for a hit .. and he missed me! the nub |
12:29.39 | abbat_w | You should't aggro Gruul ;) |
12:29.47 | Grum | i'm holy ... how can i aggro gruul? :P |
12:29.55 | abbat_w | He probably need some more hit ;) |
12:30.10 | abbat_w | And change tank btw ;) |
12:30.41 | Grum | well the MT was alive .. |
12:30.51 | Industrial | #raiding |
12:30.52 | Grum | the OT got oneshotted at grow 15 orso :P |
12:31.05 | Grum | *splat* 18k |
12:31.24 | Grum | after that we started sacrificing people .. and it was my time! .. and he missed .. twice! *sob* |
12:31.31 | Jaxon | We killed Gruul at 9 growths tonight, that was cool. |
12:31.40 | Grum | damn that is sick |
12:31.48 | Grum | WTB your dps+clue+luck |
12:31.56 | Jaxon | Luck? |
12:32.03 | Grum | yes luck |
12:32.12 | Industrial | guys, #raiding |
12:32.12 | Grum | gruul is still luck-heavy because of the shatters |
12:32.33 | Jaxon | Industrial: no one else is talking... :P |
12:32.37 | Industrial | so? |
12:32.44 | sb | mh |
12:32.56 | sb | we killed gruul after MT was crushed (no comment...) at 25% :p |
12:33.02 | Grum | so go to: #whine-about-raiding and type #raiding there every min ute |
12:33.10 | sb | druid OT solo tanking ;p |
12:33.11 | Industrial | ..|. |
12:33.11 | Grum | hehe |
12:33.13 | abbat_w | ;) |
12:33.36 | Industrial | or ill just.. leave again |
12:33.40 | Grum | *bye* |
12:33.49 | sb | hm |
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12:33.54 | Grum | lol O.o |
12:33.59 | sb | channel #raiding is empty :/ |
12:34.05 | Grum | god that makes my day completely |
12:34.16 | Grum | *\o/* for Industrial |
12:35.23 | Diao | lol |
12:35.26 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r47180 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (Bartender3_BarClass.lua Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua): Bartender3: dont use AceEvent at all for registering our events, we can do that on the frame itself, since the frame event system has been greatly optimized for 2.2 |
12:35.30 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 0747179 * r47181 10ChatLog/: ChatLog: Adding r47179. |
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12:35.56 | Grum | next time i'll see him i'll try to annoy him away in 60s :D |
12:36.46 | abbat_w | ;) |
12:36.52 | abbat_w | Industrial have a bad day? |
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12:39.37 | Grum | dunno, i'll give him one next time ;) |
12:41.08 | Grum | humz if you do the same operation multiple times (not a rather complete one - picture taking a dot-product from 2 vectors) would it be wise to write a seperate function for it or would that be 'hurting' speedwise? |
12:41.16 | Grum | *complex |
12:41.36 | Grum | not sure how lua's overhead is with calling function (it would be a local one ofc) |
12:41.50 | Trancer | anyone knows a way to stuff a macro on a petbar? |
12:42.45 | Jaxon | Trancer: can't. You can use macros to emulate the petbar on another actionbar. |
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12:43.28 | Trancer | Jaxon: myeah, not ideal |
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12:43.44 | abbat_w | yeah |
12:43.52 | abbat_w | /click PetActionButton5 |
12:43.54 | abbat_w | like this |
12:44.04 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
12:44.08 | Trancer | well yeah I have that, but that means another spell on my bars.. or hidden etc. |
12:44.09 | Borked|Raider | can you make subaddons to one addon, like havinga addon root interface/addons/root/ and then have a subaddon that are placed in /root/subaddon/ so that i for one of my addons could make a extension without the user have to have it messing in the /addon/ folder? |
12:44.10 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
12:44.16 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
12:44.23 | Trancer | it's for seduce, I don't want that button on my own bars but on my succi's |
12:44.32 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
12:44.34 | Trancer | so I can just use CTRL + 4.. without fucking up the actions of other pets |
12:44.59 | Jaxon | Okay, so bind the spot on your bar that seduce is on to CTRL + 4? |
12:45.04 | Grum | Borked|Raider: yes and no, you have to adjust the addon you are extending to load your addons files |
12:45.15 | Trancer | Jaxon: that fucks up the actions at spot 4 for felhunters etc. |
12:45.21 | Jaxon | Trancer: Secondary Action Button # in the keybindings. |
12:45.22 | Borked|Raider | Grum, ye by the toc file |
12:45.23 | Grum | (by embeds.xml / Dirname.toc) |
12:45.30 | Jaxon | How does it fuck it up? |
12:45.30 | Trancer | Jaxon: oh hmm, that might be an idea |
12:45.43 | Jaxon | All the pets should have their own petbar with spells and such. |
12:45.49 | Trancer | Yes.. |
12:45.52 | Borked|Raider | Grum, but not posible to make a toc in the new /subaddon/ that get loaded without having to put in anything in the toc of the /root/ |
12:45.54 | Trancer | With their own keybinds.. CTRL 1 - 9 |
12:46.02 | Trancer | Now if I bind CTRL 4 to the seduce action on my own bar |
12:46.03 | Grum | nope |
12:46.08 | Borked|Raider | :( |
12:46.10 | Grum | you need to edit the toc |
12:46.13 | Grum | or just make your own addon? |
12:46.14 | Trancer | The CTRL 4 action of my felhunter is no longer usable with a keybind |
12:46.22 | Sole | OH FUCK |
12:46.25 | Grum | it's just as easy tbh, you only have to make the TOC =) |
12:46.31 | Jaxon | Or just put Seduce in the CTRL - 4 spot on the PetBar. Pets can't have more than 4 activated abilities. |
12:46.31 | Sole | I had an essay typed up to own this stupid priest |
12:46.45 | Sole | and I accidentally clicked a link in my nav bar and losti t |
12:46.50 | [Ammo] | or make sure your macro is dependant on pet |
12:46.52 | Trancer | Jaxon: it's a macro |
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12:47.02 | Sole | gonna have to start writing essay posts in a text editor now |
12:47.08 | Borked|Raider | Grum, thats not the consern, i just wanted to know if it was posible to make a sub addon to a addon and place it in the addons folder instead of the /interface/addons/ folder |
12:47.13 | Trancer | [Ammo]: so.. make a macro based on pet and different actions per pet, can do I guess |
12:47.20 | Jaxon | Then it has to go on a player actionbar. |
12:47.26 | [Ammo] | ./cast [pet=Succubus] Seduce ./cast [pet=Felhutner] Devour Magic |
12:47.30 | [Ammo] | or something like that |
12:47.34 | Grum | Borked|Raider: you can with toc editing, but that has a lot of downsides (your addon will stop working when you upgrade for example) |
12:47.39 | Trancer | myeah + a truckload of /clearfocus checks :P |
12:47.53 | Jaxon | Trancer, whats the macro? |
12:48.08 | Nandini | nevcairiel: Did you see the post of upcoming UI changes for 2.3 that said /cancelform will "be recognized instantly (as /dismount is currently)" |
12:48.17 | Trancer | <PROTECTED> |
12:48.17 | Borked|Raider | Grum, i know thats why i dont want to use that solution, aint good for end user either to have to change the toc file after what sub addons he want. I am just going to make them normal addons |
12:48.21 | Trancer | <PROTECTED> |
12:48.24 | Trancer | <PROTECTED> |
12:48.24 | nevcairiel | Nandini: hm? so? |
12:48.28 | Trancer | <PROTECTED> |
12:48.42 | Grum | Borked|Raider: that's the best tbh :) |
12:48.44 | Nandini | would that enable 1-click shifting between forms? |
12:48.53 | nevcairiel | possibly |
12:48.56 | Borked|Raider | Grum - ye no douth about that |
12:49.03 | nevcairiel | cant tell without ptr |
12:49.17 | Trancer | Jaxon: reworking it atm to include felhunter :-) |
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12:49.33 | Trancer | going to be hard with the 255 limit, heh |
12:49.43 | Borked|Raider | was just some old pitbull folder i saw where there was alot of sub modules in the pitbull folder(which properly was the meaning i should copy those out in the interface/addons/ folder isntead :)) |
12:49.52 | Borked|Raider | so was just wondering if it was posible |
12:50.08 | Grum | Borked|Raider: you have the filelist.wau for that i think |
12:50.16 | Grum | it automaticly does that if installed properly |
12:50.33 | Nandini | and if installed using WAU |
12:50.35 | Jaxon | You are casting Seduction either way, you just want it to cast on a focus if you have it, right? [target=focus] with the pet:succubus part should allow you to shorten it a bit. |
12:50.54 | Borked|Raider | nvm dont use this many addons, mostly only my own so not a problem, i just wanted to know :) |
12:51.42 | Grum | i 'just have ~340 dirs' in my addons dir : |
12:51.52 | Trancer | Jaxon: yes, and reset it when target is dead (hence clearfocus) |
12:55.42 | Trancer | k, workie |
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13:31.01 | mitch0 | . |
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13:34.16 | siIentium | sylvanaar: the new Prat option to scan all players in chat channels with WhoLib seems to break the default /chatlist command if activated, I had to turn that option off again and /rl to make it work again |
13:35.50 | CIA-14 | 03elkano * r47182 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua: |
13:35.50 | CIA-14 | ElkBuffBars |
13:35.50 | CIA-14 | - now using UNIT_PET to watch for pet changes (drycoded, please test) |
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13:42.47 | xyu` | Unable to validate game version... |
13:42.48 | xyu` | weird |
13:42.53 | xyu` | it worked fine yesterday |
13:43.27 | fireglow | incomming noobquestion: which addon can i use to make the trade window, character window, spellbook, etc moveable? |
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13:44.38 | xyu` | i think it's visor2 |
13:44.40 | xyu` | brb |
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13:58.07 | LAG|Domo | If you use Baggins, how do you open your actual bank window so you can buy more bank slots? |
13:58.25 | kenlyric | turn off the option to supress the bank window. |
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13:59.10 | LAG|Domo | Thanks |
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14:11.22 | Fisker- | Punkie` |
14:11.28 | Fisker- | your Fisker- is evolving |
14:11.30 | Fisker- | evolving..... |
14:11.39 | Fisker- | Your Fisker- has evolved outside your pokeball |
14:11.40 | Fisker- | PWNT |
14:12.05 | Borked|Raider | Boubouille - do the pvp news site also have a rss feet? |
14:12.12 | Fisker- | feet :P |
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14:12.19 | Borked|Raider | feed |
14:13.06 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
14:13.17 | Punkie` | You were in my computer |
14:13.22 | Punkie` | you made it up |
14:13.48 | Fisker- | rawr? |
14:13.55 | Fisker- | btw Punkie` |
14:13.57 | Fisker- | i has been pwnt |
14:14.02 | Punkie` | by me? |
14:14.03 | Punkie` | i know |
14:14.03 | Fisker- | no |
14:14.05 | Fisker- | by 2K |
14:14.14 | Fisker- | Bioshock can only be activated twice |
14:14.20 | Fisker- | i lulz'ed |
14:14.26 | Punkie` | yeh |
14:14.28 | Punkie` | you got pwnt |
14:14.31 | vithos | uh...lol? |
14:15.04 | Fisker- | People who buy the retail version of Bioshock can only activate it twice, so after the first reinstallation it can no longer be activated without contacting Securom |
14:15.29 | vithos | in other news: mobmitigation has a retardedly superwrong formula for estimating armor value from the mitigated percent |
14:15.32 | Fisker- | People who buy the steam version can apparently activate it an unlimited number of times, but if their hardware changes more than once it can no longer be activated either |
14:15.53 | vithos | ...uh. |
14:16.18 | vithos | so you can't like. use your steam account to play it on someone else's computer |
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14:16.47 | vithos | isn't that kinda the whole point of steam? |
14:17.10 | Fisker- | yeah |
14:17.41 | vithos | lol@valve actually allowing that |
14:18.11 | jme | i still haven't tried bioshock yet |
14:18.54 | Fisker- | yeah it's a shame vithos |
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14:19.54 | Keya | hm my PC changed twice in the last 3 years but all steam games I have continue to work as if nothing happened |
14:20.28 | alext | maybe it checks a certain piece of hardware |
14:20.30 | vithos | you haven't been playing bioshock for 3 years |
14:20.45 | alext | like an Hard Drive signature or something...yeah or its particular for just that game |
14:21.05 | Keya | I'm playing CS:S since it's out |
14:21.12 | vithos | this is apparently a securom thing, not a steam thing |
14:21.24 | vithos | well actually no |
14:21.27 | vithos | i don't know |
14:21.39 | vithos | it's just lame, that's what it is |
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14:23.23 | CIA-14 | 03bayi * r47183 10beql/options.lua: beql: - Fixed dead call to LookForCompletedQuests() in options.lua |
14:23.33 | jme | hate it when i log out without both of my pve trinkets |
14:24.02 | jme | maybe i just care too much about my armory page :o |
14:24.19 | vithos | so, i went and got a weapon that always does the same damage |
14:24.30 | jme | a fishing pole? |
14:24.31 | vithos | but it actually varies by 1 damage |
14:24.36 | vithos | Screeching Bow |
14:24.45 | vithos | from stratholme |
14:25.01 | jme | strat is soloable? |
14:25.13 | vithos | yeah, you just walk by all the trash |
14:25.24 | jme | right ;) |
14:25.41 | jme | i still haven't run strat, or scholo |
14:25.53 | vithos | i had only run scholo |
14:26.32 | alext | i do scholo up do that doctor boss |
14:26.40 | alext | who fucks me up every time |
14:26.48 | alext | he dual wields and tears up cloth real bad |
14:26.58 | jme | heh |
14:27.41 | jme | i like to solo teremus in the blasted lands |
14:27.47 | vithos | i just went straight to baroness anastari, after getting the key |
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14:28.06 | alext | i was trying to farm the flask of supreme power |
14:28.16 | jme | ah |
14:28.17 | alext | i did every boss except the doctor guy and the final boss...since he doesnt appear unless the doctor is dead |
14:28.26 | vithos | dismissed pet so no MC; equipped my BT SR gear; she stays ranged |
14:28.32 | alext | well he doesnt appear unless all the other bosses are dead |
14:28.44 | vithos | resisted almost all her stuff fully |
14:28.48 | jme | vithos: :o |
14:28.53 | alext | nice |
14:29.15 | vithos | takes like 3 minutes per kill/reset |
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14:30.20 | jme | vithos: my gf got the sunfury off her guild's first prince kill :( |
14:30.48 | jme | well i think i mentioned that already |
14:30.56 | vithos | yes, lol |
14:31.02 | Diao | lol |
14:31.14 | jme | ok :) |
14:31.14 | vithos | welcome to yourself, earlier in the week sir |
14:31.23 | jme | i've slept since then |
14:31.26 | jme | that's my excuse |
14:31.55 | vithos | that's no excuse, sleep when you die! |
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14:32.10 | jme | hehe |
14:32.34 | Qaarh | hey everyone |
14:32.37 | jme | i saw a lightning crown in my bags last night |
14:32.44 | jme | i have no clue where it came from |
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14:33.22 | vithos | what's that? |
14:33.37 | jme | random drop boe epic |
14:33.42 | jme | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31330 |
14:33.56 | vithos | ah, cool |
14:34.06 | vithos | my friend got a depleted badge off shartuul this morning |
14:34.31 | jme | cool |
14:36.33 | deltron | holy shit |
14:36.39 | deltron | that's an insane amount of crit |
14:37.44 | Qaarh | you guys know if there is an addon that prints how long a fight has been going on? Preferably FuBar |
14:38.15 | mort|work | and no stats at all mmh |
14:38.15 | jme | pretty sure there is one.. combattimer or something? |
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14:38.50 | Qaarh | CombatTimeFu perhaps *learns to use search* |
14:39.04 | jme | not sure, i haven't looked at the addon list in a while |
14:39.11 | deltron | noob! |
14:39.25 | jme | hah |
14:39.55 | Elkano | Qaarh, EavesDrop does that, including a summary of damage/heal done/taken by you |
14:40.07 | Elkano | but it's most likely not what you want |
14:40.20 | Qaarh | Hmm, isn't that like.. a combat log mod thingy? |
14:40.57 | vithos | yes |
14:41.14 | Qaarh | I run swstats for its combat log now, but.. I could try it out and see, I'm always open for suggestions ;) |
14:41.36 | winkiller | hah, I just commited 30k LOC |
14:41.45 | winkiller | guess I am no1 dev on theproject now :P |
14:41.54 | Elkano | well, it's a combat log like the chat frame, not a damage meter ^^ |
14:42.04 | jme | winkiller: KILLING BLOW |
14:42.06 | Qaarh | Elkano: right, but the swstats combat log is nice too.. |
14:42.23 | Elkano | can't tell, using violation |
14:42.34 | pb_ee1 | winkiller, which project? |
14:42.38 | jme | same, i use violation and simplecombatlog |
14:42.38 | vithos | Qaarh: you can find the combat duration in the summary report in recount as well, if you want to try that out as a replacement for sws |
14:42.44 | winkiller | in my company |
14:43.00 | Qaarh | vithos: mm, true |
14:43.01 | winkiller | to be faitr, it was just adjusting all language files from the last version :P |
14:44.04 | Qaarh | going to try them out |
14:46.12 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel * r47184 10AuldLangSyne/FriendList/FriendList.lua: AuldLangSyne: attempt at fixing config migration Info->FriendList |
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14:48.45 | vithos | man, recount is so epic |
14:49.13 | vithos | like.. threat/time graph. |
14:49.32 | Bruners | violation is not showing hunter's pet dmg right :( |
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14:49.57 | vithos | i wish i knew it could do that last night when anetheron magically aggrod on me |
14:50.07 | vithos | could have just graphed my threat vs the tanks and screenshotted it |
14:50.24 | jme | l2notrapidfirewhenat90%threat |
14:50.41 | jme | :D |
14:50.51 | Bruners | pfft, can still just FD when you grab aggro :P |
14:50.56 | vithos | i wasn't at 90% threat, according to omen |
14:51.01 | jme | yeah |
14:51.14 | jme | vithos: figured out why i was running out of mana |
14:51.30 | vithos | i pulled and died, got yelled at. then after the kill, asked if anyone actually saw the meter and people were saying i wasn't even in the top5 before pulling |
14:51.47 | vithos | oh, why? |
14:51.49 | jme | vithos: when i specced back to 41/20 BM i picked up imp hawk 5/5 instead of efficiency from MM |
14:52.06 | vithos | you mean imp HM? |
14:52.11 | jme | yes |
14:52.16 | vithos | that would explain it. |
14:52.17 | vithos | lol |
14:52.25 | vithos | learn2talented |
14:52.29 | jme | :( |
14:52.38 | vithos | talent templates with oneclick application = win |
14:52.42 | Bruners | mana pots or aotv and your good |
14:52.42 | jme | is imp HM a party buff? |
14:52.49 | vithos | raid |
14:52.53 | jme | ah |
14:53.08 | vithos | just modifies the target debuff |
14:53.18 | jme | Bruners: yeah, i stocked up on mana pots for tonight :o |
14:53.45 | Bruners | or you could go elixir of major mageblood and agi/ap elixir |
14:53.57 | jme | Bruners: really sucked on nightbane the other night, i ran out of mana at like 30% and couldn't FD out of combat to drink, so i ahd to open trade with someome mid fight, hah |
14:55.03 | Xinhuan | did grum kill fathomlord? |
14:55.09 | Xinhuan | we had a discussion yesterday |
14:56.40 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r47185 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: fix aura gains by enemies and mobs. |
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15:02.03 | vithos | crap. i'm down to 300g |
15:02.17 | [Ammo] | sell your body in shattrath |
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15:02.35 | vithos | good call. i knew there was a reason i rolled female NE |
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15:03.03 | jme | i'm down to 35g |
15:03.07 | jme | beat that |
15:03.24 | [Ammo] | I'm at -900something |
15:03.27 | [Ammo] | :) |
15:03.36 | jme | well technically i am at -400 if you count the loan my gf gave me |
15:03.39 | [dRaCo] | I just found 2 epics while farming strath for righteous orbs o0 |
15:03.40 | [Ammo] | still have to pay someone 2500 gold :) |
15:03.56 | jme | [Ammoo]: training loan? |
15:04.08 | [Ammo] | I needed my epix mount |
15:04.20 | jme | i have yet to ask for loans for that |
15:04.36 | jme | there's this one JC on my server that has over 40k gold but he doesn't give loans :( |
15:05.25 | [dRaCo] | skill mining. |
15:05.35 | [dRaCo] | best money making profession ever |
15:05.54 | jme | yeah, i have 375 mining |
15:06.12 | jme | and maybe 200g worth of mithril and thorium in my bank from skilling it |
15:06.26 | [Ammo] | the guy I loaned from is a JC |
15:06.33 | [Ammo] | he just buys ore, prospects and sells gems |
15:06.38 | [Ammo] | makes 200+g a day doing just that |
15:06.42 | [Ammo] | 'playing the AH' |
15:06.43 | jme | yeah, that's what they do |
15:06.59 | [dRaCo] | one stack of adamantite goes for 30g here... one rare gem for like 50g |
15:07.40 | [Ammo] | oh and if you want to have your coworkers look at you strangely, visit this site with speakers real loud: http://www.moanmyip.com/ |
15:08.31 | ulic | oh brother |
15:08.50 | vithos | that will be an epic ventrilo spam next time i'm hosting some kind of game server. |
15:10.22 | deltron | lol [Ammo] |
15:10.56 | jme | [Ammoo]: make irssi not tab complete your cow form nick |
15:11.41 | vithos | just keep hitting tab :P |
15:11.42 | nevcairiel | man people really create stupid pages |
15:15.50 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r47186 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
15:15.50 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
15:15.50 | CIA-14 | - you can now disable MiniChat for certain chat windows |
15:15.55 | Qaarh | Elkano: Now I got stuck on EavesDrop |
15:16.18 | Qaarh | Elkano: I really like how it displays stuff |
15:16.44 | CIA-14 | 03ulic * r47187 10LittleWigs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): LittleWigs: Several esES additions from bailon |
15:17.40 | Yssaril | for the fubarplugin to work properly do i need tablet? |
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15:18.35 | jme | Xuerian: fail |
15:19.06 | Elkano | Qaarh :) |
15:19.11 | Xuerian | jme: You made me die a little inside. |
15:19.27 | jme | Xuerian: you make me die a little inside every day! |
15:19.36 | jme | Xuerian: :D |
15:19.41 | Elkano | Yssaril, depends on the plugin, some use Blizzard tooltip while others use Tablet or own frames |
15:19.48 | jme | lol |
15:19.57 | Yssaril | well this is my code http://ace.pastey.net/72571 |
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15:20.24 | Yssaril | and every now and then when i reload my UI the addon disapears from my fubar |
15:20.52 | Yssaril | evey now and then i can get it back by cycling minimapAttach but half the time that fails with this error |
15:21.07 | Yssaril | Tablet-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `IsRegistered' (table or string expected, got nil) |
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15:22.28 | Yssaril | here is the full error from bugsack http://ace.pastey.net/72572 |
15:23.05 | pb_ee1 | ~chatlog |
15:23.10 | Fisker- | oh Punkie` |
15:23.13 | Fisker- | THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! |
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15:23.37 | Fisker- | If you uninstall the game before reinstalling then you can activate it as much as you like!1 |
15:23.42 | Chompers | :O |
15:23.45 | Fisker- | What a convenience |
15:23.47 | Chompers | you've been playing then? |
15:23.50 | Fisker- | no |
15:24.00 | Fisker- | "Oh i just have to reinstall windows" |
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15:24.14 | Fisker- | A shame it'll take me 10 hours because i just happen to have some 40 titles protected by that securom crap |
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15:25.23 | Fisker- | btw Chompers they closed my poll :( |
15:25.46 | Chompers | BASTARDS |
15:26.33 | Chompers | if i wasn't so lazy i'd gather up all my nerd rage and make a nasty forum post |
15:26.37 | Fisker- | http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125452 <-i think it was constructive, to the point and didn't contain trolling |
15:27.00 | cncfanatics | FIsker- |
15:27.08 | cncfanatics | something you write cannot be constructive AND not contain trolling |
15:27.22 | Fisker- | sure |
15:27.25 | Fisker- | in bizzaroworld |
15:28.32 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, either way, if some crap is protected by securom, heck it |
15:28.36 | cncfanatics | s/heck/hack/ |
15:28.38 | cncfanatics | thats what I do |
15:29.01 | Fisker- | already paid for it :( |
15:29.12 | Fisker- | Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. |
15:29.22 | cncfanatics | indeed |
15:29.24 | cncfanatics | just download em heck |
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15:29.31 | cncfanatics | why pay for games ? |
15:29.47 | Chompers | pay for good games |
15:29.48 | Fisker- | that's warez! |
15:29.50 | Fisker- | indeed |
15:29.52 | Chompers | Mafia was fantastic |
15:29.57 | deltron | what's up with securom? |
15:30.02 | deltron | I noticed bioshock had it |
15:30.03 | Fisker- | or, pay for good games that doesn't infringe on your basic right to use a game |
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15:30.10 | deltron | I just bought it and installed it |
15:30.16 | Fisker- | deltron the bioshock version allows 2 reinstalls unless you uninstall it properly each time |
15:30.22 | Fisker- | 1 reinstall actually |
15:30.23 | deltron | wtf |
15:30.28 | deltron | that's lame |
15:30.31 | Fisker- | yes |
15:30.38 | Fisker- | so much for "one-time activation" |
15:30.50 | deltron | that's worse than MS's activation stuff |
15:30.56 | Fisker- | yes |
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15:36.38 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r47188 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: |
15:36.38 | CIA-14 | Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Will no longer have a chance to throw errors when logging out. |
15:36.38 | CIA-14 | - If New category doesn't exist, will not try to reset new items. |
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15:40.46 | Elkano | Mecdemort, ping? |
15:40.52 | Mecdemort | pong |
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15:41.24 | Elkano | there's also a bug with upgrading AnywhereBags from DB 2 to DB 4 since DB 2 version is stored as string |
15:41.54 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r47189 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - No longer compares number to string if you update from a much older version. |
15:42.14 | Mecdemort | ya just saw that in tracs |
15:42.26 | Elkano | good :) |
15:42.46 | Mecdemort | The reason uninstall/reinstall didnt work is because that didnt affect the savesvariables file |
15:43.40 | Elkano | yeah, I know. I had fixed it for myself by replacing the string with the number in SVs |
15:44.25 | charon | !seen antiarc |
15:44.39 | Mecdemort | i really should just check by revision number |
15:44.59 | Elkano | your > if not tonumber(version) then < should most likely have been a > if not type(version) == "number" < |
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15:45.27 | Mecdemort | > if type(p.DBVersion) ~= "number" then |
15:45.45 | Elkano | oh, yeahr not equal ^^ |
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15:47.44 | Mecdemort | ill change it to check by revision the next time i make a change |
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15:48.38 | CIA-14 | 03toadkiller * r47190 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
15:48.38 | CIA-14 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
15:48.38 | CIA-14 | - Added all missing buff foods from *.Bonus to Consumable.Food.Buff.* |
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15:50.16 | Elkano | toadkiller isnt on irc, is he? |
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16:00.30 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r47191 10CastYeller/: CastYeller: never use "\" as the path separator in svn:externals, NEVER ! |
16:00.48 | cryogen | \\\\\\\\\\\ |
16:01.21 | cryogen | blizzard should prevent annoying addons |
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16:02.37 | hamunaptra | pitbull question: how can I get the "pet happiness indicator"? |
16:03.00 | Mecdemort | cryogen: if they prevented 1 anoying addon they'd end up blocking 100 usefull ones |
16:03.28 | cryogen | Mecdemort: but on the plus side, i wouldnt be annoyed |
16:03.44 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r47192 10SimpleSelfRebuff/: SimpleSelfRebuff: never use "\" as the path separator in svn:externals, NEVER ! |
16:03.46 | Sais | hamunaptra: It's the colour of the bar |
16:04.05 | Mecdemort | lol |
16:04.08 | Sais | green = happy, yellow = so-so, red(iirc) = unhappy |
16:04.24 | Mecdemort | naw red = omg imma bite you |
16:04.29 | Sais | lol |
16:04.33 | hamunaptra | the color of which bar? the health bar? |
16:04.49 | Sais | The name bar, iirc. It's pretty obvious. |
16:04.51 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r47193 10FuBar_ThreatFu/: FuBar_ThreatFu: never use "\" as the path separator in svn:externals, NEVER ! |
16:05.09 | Sais | Although I didn't notice until someone else asked the same question |
16:05.28 | Sais | OK - it's obvious when you know what you're looking for! |
16:05.47 | hamunaptra | sais: the name bar on my pet is the health bar and it is colored according to health... so I would have to add another bar (name bar) to have this.. right? |
16:06.24 | Sais | Isn't it only coloured for health when you're in combat? |
16:06.39 | Sais | *logs in to check* |
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16:08.08 | hamunaptra | sais: ok, you're right :) ... out of combat, it has the "right" color^^ |
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16:09.32 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r47194 10QuietCast/ (. Libs/ QuietCast.toc embeds.xml): QuietCast: clean up externals. |
16:10.02 | Mecdemort | whats the difference between tablet and dewdrop? |
16:10.08 | CIA-14 | 03kunda * r47195 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2/Babble-Herbs-2.2.lua: .Babble-Herbs-2.2: fixed deDE Arthas Tears: punctuation apostrophe (Unicode: U+2019) is the right one |
16:10.13 | Sais | I actually have two bars - the name and the health. it's the name bar that changes colour |
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16:13.59 | CIA-14 | 03kemayo * r47196 10AuldLangSyne/filelist.wau: AuldLangSyne: Add FriendList and GuildList to filelist.wau. |
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16:20.36 | Kemayo | sb: You're right, maybe I *should* have called it FriendLust... :D |
16:20.56 | CIA-14 | 03bayi * r47197 10beql/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
16:20.56 | CIA-14 | beql: |
16:20.56 | CIA-14 | - Toc: Added beqltitan.xmls -> beqltitan.lua |
16:20.56 | CIA-14 | - Toc: Added localization-fr.lua |
16:20.56 | CIA-14 | - Locales: Added localization-fr.lua French localization made by Scylia |
16:20.56 | CIA-14 | - TitanPlugin: Added beql Titan Plugin |
16:20.58 | CIA-14 | - TitanPlugin: FuBar plugin disables if TitanBar loaded, TitanPlugin only activates if TitanBar is loaded |
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16:22.18 | sb | Kemayo: meeeh :p |
16:22.19 | sb | list :p |
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16:23.34 | Jp^ | Shit happens |
16:25.45 | Jp^ | Someone familar with "Antiarc's WoW Armory Tools" ? |
16:26.40 | sb | hmm - Antiar2? :P |
16:26.58 | Jp^ | m? |
16:26.58 | Punkie` | What's with the "Shit Happens"? |
16:27.06 | Jp^ | Shit do happen lol :) |
16:27.13 | Punkie` | but you just came in |
16:27.18 | Jp^ | yes |
16:27.25 | Jp^ | this is my wellcome logo :D |
16:27.31 | Punkie` | it's awful |
16:27.44 | Jp^ | grr :) im not in a perfect mood thats all.. :) |
16:27.48 | Punkie` | :P |
16:27.55 | Jp^ | i cant install one sh.. thing |
16:28.02 | Punkie` | What's wrong with Antiarc's tools? |
16:28.11 | Jp^ | i have some big error |
16:28.22 | Punkie` | can you link me to the website ? |
16:28.25 | nytestorms | WoW changes the armory website url today, and the tools are not working correctly |
16:28.29 | Jp^ | i managed the web and everything :) even the password and username (i was little confuse with it) |
16:28.39 | Jp^ | my error is from before |
16:28.50 | Jp^ | its only 127.0.0.1 :D for now |
16:28.58 | Punkie` | ok, just tell me the error :) |
16:29.01 | Jp^ | i can show you the error.. if you think you can help me |
16:29.01 | Jp^ | ok |
16:29.28 | Jp^ | to paste it on main? |
16:29.31 | Jp^ | ? |
16:29.32 | Jp^ | <D:error> |
16:29.32 | Jp^ | <C:error/> |
16:29.32 | Jp^ | <m:human-readable errcode="165005"> |
16:29.32 | Jp^ | Could not open the requested SVN filesystem |
16:29.32 | Jp^ | </m:human-readable> |
16:29.34 | Jp^ | </D:error> |
16:29.56 | Punkie` | ok well from now on use ace.pastey.net for errors ^^ |
16:30.13 | Jp^ | what ?:) |
16:30.18 | Punkie` | but what's the problem, you can't actually download the files via SVN? |
16:30.23 | Jp^ | i have them |
16:30.37 | Jp^ | i have everything this is when i try to acces them |
16:30.38 | Punkie` | Ok, so where do you get that error? |
16:31.16 | Jp^ | if you have hamachi on your pc i can show you |
16:32.42 | Punkie` | I don't know what hamachi is :P |
16:32.49 | Jp^ | <PROTECTED> |
16:32.54 | Punkie` | Like VNC? |
16:33.04 | Mecdemort | does a file's revision number change if any of it's embeded libraries is updated? |
16:33.13 | Jp^ | Hamachi set's LOCAL connections via INTERNET .. something like this :D |
16:33.34 | Punkie` | Alright, no I don't have this |
16:33.36 | Jp^ | my english isnt very good so i cant explain.. but i have VNC also.. :D |
16:33.42 | Punkie` | Mecdemort: No |
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16:37.04 | Punkie` | Jp^: I'm not sure what the problem is |
16:37.10 | Jp^ | ream pm |
16:37.12 | Jp^ | read |
16:37.16 | Punkie` | If you talk to Antiar2, he's the person who made it all anyway |
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16:42.34 | Mudkips | what a crapshoot |
16:42.58 | Mudkips | agp cards are at least 30% more expensive compared to pci express |
16:43.28 | Mudkips | I thought old technology is supposed to go cheaper over time... |
16:43.50 | Ordog | not if you produce for a dying market |
16:44.59 | charon | Antiar2: ping |
16:45.05 | Punkie` | Old PCI cards are freaking expensive :P |
16:46.27 | Mecdemort | supply and demand's a bitch |
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16:49.10 | Jp^ | omg f1ck it :) grr ill try to build a spaceshuttle :) |
16:49.17 | Jp^ | bb gl hf |
16:50.57 | Dotted | Punkie` hamachi is a vpn |
16:51.47 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47198 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: updated zhTW localization |
16:52.05 | Dotted | and much like irc there are rooms and in those rooms ppl will be conneted like if they where at a lan |
16:53.07 | CIA-14 | 03samuelcup * r47199 10beql/locales/localization-cn.lua: beql: - zhCN locale updated |
16:53.08 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47200 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (10 files): |
16:53.08 | CIA-14 | FuBar_GarbageFu: |
16:53.08 | CIA-14 | - added zhTW localization |
16:53.08 | CIA-14 | - use embeds.xml |
16:53.08 | CIA-14 | - add Ignore EngBag/GemBag/MiningBag options |
16:53.47 | cryogen | why are some servers showing as red in the server list |
16:53.53 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47201 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc embeds.xml): |
16:53.53 | CIA-14 | AutoBar: |
16:53.54 | CIA-14 | - use embeds.xml |
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16:57.19 | CIA-14 | 03jncl * r47202 10Skinner/ (CharacterFrames1.lua CharacterFrames2.lua UIElements2.lua): Skinner: PTR Updates |
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17:01.20 | NeoTron | man wowjutsu needs to update my guild. been a week now with no updates - additional al'ar kill + vashj kill. not sure if it's enough for top 500 but still |
17:03.06 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r47203 10CastYeller/ (. CastYeller.lua announces/warlock.lua): |
17:03.06 | CIA-14 | CastYeller: |
17:03.06 | CIA-14 | - fixed duplicate externals, |
17:03.06 | CIA-14 | - attempt to fix missing summon target. |
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17:06.56 | RaydenUnicyclist | i need to respec |
17:07.06 | RaydenUnicyclist | if only to relinquish those 2 points i have in holy |
17:11.25 | RaydenUnicyclist | any PVE shadow priests here who can share a talent build? |
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17:13.04 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Sasarai is one example |
17:13.21 | NeoTron | but depending on gear it might be better to have a bit more disc for the mana regen |
17:13.38 | NeoTron | our other shadow priest is currently on a raid break and specced pvp disc/holy |
17:15.29 | RaydenUnicyclist | !c us destromath raydenuni |
17:15.34 | ThraeBot | RaydenUnicyclist: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (13/2/46). 7191 HP; 8145 Mana; 181 mana regen; 27 mp5; 127 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 412 +spell dmg/heal; 50 frost dmg (462); 89 shadow dmg (501); 5.06% dodge; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 722 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ]] |
17:15.56 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm leaning towards 17/0/44 |
17:16.34 | [dRaCo] | I'd go 14/0/47 ;) |
17:16.42 | Tornhoof | hmm anyone updated baggins recently? |
17:16.53 | pastamancer | 0/10/51 :p |
17:16.59 | pastamancer | <3 spell warding |
17:17.01 | [dRaCo] | earlier today, tornhoof... why? |
17:17.05 | RaydenUnicyclist | pastamancer what do you put into holy? |
17:17.19 | [dRaCo] | pastamancer: for pve? why? |
17:17.20 | RaydenUnicyclist | Shadow Power useful? |
17:17.22 | Tornhoof | 2007/08/22 19:14:13-2570-x1]: Baggins-Beta 1\Baggins.lua:1306: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
17:17.32 | pastamancer | imp renew, that don't get interrupted thingy, and spell warding |
17:17.37 | [dRaCo] | fine here, Tornhoof |
17:17.47 | pastamancer | I originally specced into it to be the curator bolt tank |
17:17.53 | NeoTron | :se noai |
17:17.53 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
17:17.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | when do you use renew, or get attacked much in dungeons? |
17:18.03 | RaydenUnicyclist | oh |
17:18.06 | [dRaCo] | RaydenUnicyclist: depends. if you use mindblast on a regular basis, yes |
17:18.14 | pastamancer | I use renew and pom on ae pulls |
17:18.20 | [dRaCo] | I personally am more the dot, melt faces guy |
17:18.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | frisbee :) |
17:18.50 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah i think little focus on mind blast for me |
17:18.54 | pastamancer | there's enough things that do AE spell damage that I haven't wanted to spec out of spell warding |
17:18.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | frees up 10 talent points too |
17:19.18 | [dRaCo] | well, SW:D is great |
17:19.24 | RaydenUnicyclist | allows for meditation and mental agility |
17:19.34 | [dRaCo] | so you might use those 5 points in SP anyway |
17:19.35 | RaydenUnicyclist | i was doing the 5 man ogri'la quests with guildies last night |
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17:19.41 | RaydenUnicyclist | we were on our last one, the one above shattrath |
17:19.51 | RaydenUnicyclist | my SWD crit for 2599, i pulled aggro and died instantly |
17:19.57 | RaydenUnicyclist | it was beautiful |
17:20.02 | Tornhoof | apparently was that new hide duplicates -> bags option ;) |
17:20.05 | [dRaCo] | ^^" |
17:20.23 | [dRaCo] | RaydenUnicyclist: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rxMhzhZZxGxzMxRhtEo would be my way of speccing shadow |
17:20.30 | [dRaCo] | not tested, though :) |
17:20.39 | Yssaril | is there a function to check if an item is bop or do i ahve to scan the tooltip? |
17:20.48 | RaydenUnicyclist | [dRaCo] no blackout? |
17:21.04 | pastamancer | blackout is for pvp |
17:21.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | and no silence? i find silence is very useful in dungeons for pulling those caster that are too close to something dangerous |
17:21.16 | pastamancer | spirit tap is for farming |
17:21.25 | [dRaCo] | should have mentioned it's a raid spec :/ |
17:21.42 | [dRaCo] | RaydenUnicyclist: in case you didnt notice, it's a raid spec ;) |
17:21.43 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm doing 5 mans right now |
17:21.50 | RaydenUnicyclist | i'm just discussing |
17:21.54 | RaydenUnicyclist | not pulling it apart |
17:22.01 | RaydenUnicyclist | trying to mix my knowledge with what you chose |
17:22.10 | [dRaCo] | for 5 mans silence is ok, blackout even better |
17:22.13 | pastamancer | oh, you sould go 14/0/whatever and get imp fort |
17:22.27 | pastamancer | if you're doing 5-mans that is |
17:22.27 | Yssaril | spirit tap only procs if you kill the target as such it will almost never proc in a raid |
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17:22.44 | [dRaCo] | sure, but blackout annoys the hell outta your tanks. |
17:22.52 | cncfanatics | indeed it does |
17:22.55 | RaydenUnicyclist | why? |
17:22.56 | cncfanatics | hate that thing |
17:23.09 | cncfanatics | stun = not getting hit = no mana back (or rage if ur a warrior/druid) |
17:23.32 | cncfanatics | oh, and as pala I do about 300 reflective dmg each time I get hit, wont do that either if they're stunned |
17:23.33 | pastamancer | I've had blackout screw up what would have been otherwise beautiful pulls |
17:23.39 | [dRaCo] | and if you have to move, a stunned mob sucks. |
17:24.14 | Yssaril | yea neither of the tier1 talents are any good for raiding :P |
17:24.19 | pastamancer | also, sw:d is great for kill-sniping int 5-mans to trigger spirit tap |
17:24.23 | RaydenUnicyclist | unbreakable vs wand? i seem to use wand a lot when i farm and its useful in 5 mans once i've thrown up some dots on trash |
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17:24.36 | pastamancer | resisting fear is usually a bad thing in pve |
17:24.42 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah... |
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17:24.56 | [dRaCo] | aight, good point |
17:24.58 | RaydenUnicyclist | although i find i'm often outside of the fear range anyways |
17:25.07 | [dRaCo] | so wand > unbreakable |
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17:25.53 | RaydenUnicyclist | worth dropping 3 points to get 2 points of mental agility? |
17:26.07 | RaydenUnicyclist | makes VE cost... 21 mana instead of 25 |
17:26.10 | RaydenUnicyclist | or something like that |
17:26.10 | [dRaCo] | imo not |
17:26.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | :D |
17:26.30 | [dRaCo] | my new and kinda improved 5 man spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVMhzhZZxGgzMtRhtAo;) |
17:26.46 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVMhzhZZxGgzMtRhtAo |
17:26.47 | RaydenUnicyclist | what i got |
17:26.51 | RaydenUnicyclist | hmm |
17:26.53 | RaydenUnicyclist | that's odd |
17:27.02 | [dRaCo] | same |
17:27.08 | RaydenUnicyclist | did we build the same one? or bug |
17:27.20 | [dRaCo] | we built the same one. |
17:27.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | awesome |
17:27.52 | pastamancer | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVG0zhZZxGguMtRhtVo is how I'd be tempted to respec if I was doing more 5-mans |
17:28.26 | pastamancer | imp pw:s is pretty useless |
17:28.52 | RaydenUnicyclist | silent resolve? |
17:28.55 | NeoTron | hmm. 6/34/21, 9/31/21, 0/40/21. gah can't decide. |
17:29.17 | [dRaCo] | I like it, nobody dispells in pve anyway |
17:29.18 | pastamancer | in 5-mans you might end up healing if the main healer dies |
17:29.40 | RaydenUnicyclist | threat reduction for something that happens maybe 10% of the time? |
17:29.56 | pastamancer | *shrug* imp pws ends up being like 100 damage |
17:30.12 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah pws sucks these days |
17:30.32 | Thrae | !vs us lightninghoof cupcakes us lightninghoof citzii |
17:30.40 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Cupcakes vs Citzii! Cupcakes has +21 lvls on Citzii (60 vs 39); A L60 rogue and a L39 warlock square off!; 41/0/5 vs 30/0/0; Citzii wins by 75 TBRs! |
17:30.46 | Thrae | And people wonder why there are so many complaints about twinks. |
17:30.56 | pastamancer | imp mb > shadow power too |
17:31.35 | NeoTron | unlikely |
17:31.39 | pastamancer | unless the tanks you group with really suck, you can keep MB on cooldown without pulling aggro, and you'll have plenty of time ot drink even in heroics |
17:31.42 | NeoTron | but I haven't theory crafted |
17:31.58 | NeoTron | but shadow power affects sw:d too |
17:32.17 | pastamancer | which now has an even longer cooldown |
17:32.19 | NeoTron | and if it's for 5-mans why spec so deep into disc ? |
17:32.29 | NeoTron | do the math on meditation, it's pretty useless |
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17:32.40 | pastamancer | meditation ends up being 30 mp5 or so for me |
17:32.44 | Thrae | I always meditate when I do math. |
17:32.45 | NeoTron | a shadow priest won't really have any spirit |
17:32.59 | Thrae | For some reason, I keep getting 0 when I meditate on math. |
17:33.02 | NeoTron | blackout is also a lot better than spirit tap unless it's a solo grind spec |
17:33.18 | pastamancer | I can't stand blackout in pve |
17:33.20 | Coruss | spirit tap is useless for grouping, it's meant for levelling |
17:33.33 | Coruss | its way too unreliable for 5 points |
17:33.33 | NeoTron | blackout is the bomb on vashj |
17:33.46 | Coruss | it actually works on a boss? |
17:33.48 | Coruss | wow... |
17:33.51 | Funkeh` | loes |
17:34.45 | cncfanatics | if the boss aint stun immune, works like every other stun |
17:34.50 | cncfanatics | I do think he means vasj adds though |
17:34.59 | Coruss | aah |
17:35.03 | NeoTron | it works on the striders |
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17:35.17 | NeoTron | striders has a aoe fear aura and has to be kited |
17:35.26 | NeoTron | anything that helps it not move is great |
17:36.04 | NeoTron | only fight where regular use of tailoring nets make sense |
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17:36.19 | Coruss | the points in silent resolve don't make sense |
17:36.24 | NeoTron | although with a shaman kiting it was pretty swell |
17:36.33 | Coruss | why lower the threat gen of holy/disc if you're dpsing with shadow |
17:37.05 | Coruss | I wouldn't go more than 11 points into disc with a shadow spec |
17:37.28 | NeoTron | 11 disc is good for SP |
17:37.46 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r47205 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: add fade and dispel messages. Might spam the fook out of you since there is no real way to differntiate from friendly players not in your group and enemies/mobs. |
17:39.21 | Coruss | wand spec, 3 in unbreakable will, 2 in imp fort, and inner focus |
17:40.37 | pastamancer | I've always seen unbreakable will as causing trouble in pve |
17:40.54 | Coruss | maybe in a 5man |
17:41.13 | Coruss | in a larger raid if there's a group fear you can either dispel the fear or someone else will resist it too |
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17:47.33 | TNZe | hmm |
17:47.39 | TNZe | Omen takes some time to get used to |
17:47.47 | TNZe | and my shadowfiend is stuck on global threat :( |
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17:53.02 | CIA-14 | 03ulic * r47206 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua: LittleWigs: HellfireCitadel/Omor- Aura fix |
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18:03.49 | [dRaCo] | there used to be this addon giving you some lines to align your interface elements... does anyone remember the name? |
18:04.17 | pastamancer | align? |
18:04.25 | Shadowed| | MoveAnything? |
18:04.27 | pastamancer | it's on wowi |
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18:05.55 | [dRaCo] | ah, thanks, pastamancer |
18:06.03 | Toufas | hello can someone recommend me a mt target addon ,as pitbull doesnt seem to be showing them? |
18:06.18 | [dRaCo] | ora2 |
18:06.26 | NeoTron | ora2 is nice for that |
18:06.28 | [dRaCo] | but pitbull shows them |
18:06.34 | NeoTron | prefer ora2's over xperls at least |
18:06.36 | [dRaCo] | when you use blizz' system, that is |
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18:13.23 | Natikra | I would just set the MT as focus with /focus target |
18:13.31 | Natikra | Then use the focus target in pitbull |
18:16.05 | TNZe | LMAO |
18:16.15 | TNZe | a sheep right befor elootreaver |
18:16.20 | TNZe | walked into another group and chainpulled |
18:16.25 | TNZe | and then ANOTHER group |
18:16.31 | TNZe | worst randomness EVER |
18:16.46 | Toufas | and how can i move bigwigs frames? :x |
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18:19.24 | Toufas | i mean resize them, coz they are huge |
18:19.29 | Toufas | and scale doesnt seem to affect them |
18:20.01 | Toufas | on the emphasized bars |
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18:28.18 | Kadrahil | hey it's that dwarf priest guy from my server |
18:28.34 | Kadrahil | JoshBorke: :D |
18:28.38 | JoshBorke | hi |
18:28.39 | Kadrahil | JoshBorke: <- jme |
18:28.43 | JoshBorke | oh noes |
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18:30.24 | Kadrahil | JoshBorke: some nub shadow priest attacked me at the EP last night, he died very quickly |
18:30.38 | JoshBorke | lol |
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18:31.26 | Coruss | littlewigs? |
18:31.46 | Kadrahil | i hear [Ammo] wears them |
18:33.37 | ulic | hehe |
18:34.03 | ulic | Coruss: BigWigs for 5-mans |
18:34.21 | ulic | just additional "modules" |
18:34.43 | Coruss | aah |
18:35.00 | ulic | since blizzard finally made some decent encounters in 5-mans |
18:35.05 | Coruss | ya |
18:35.18 | Coruss | might be worth making a HeroicWigs |
18:35.30 | Coruss | handle the added abilities in heroic mode |
18:35.37 | Kadrahil | ulic: should actually /rw the party if you're the leader with the boss warnings, imo |
18:35.39 | ulic | it's got some differences built-in already |
18:35.39 | kergoth | Coruss, littlewigs already does that. |
18:35.46 | Coruss | even better |
18:36.22 | ulic | alot of bosses are the same, but some do change, like Capitous or however you spell it :) |
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18:36.43 | ulic | Kadrahil: it should do that I think. Doesn't it? |
18:37.06 | ulic | if it doesn't, it's a problem with /rw in parties in bigwigs then :) |
18:37.20 | Kadrahil | ulic: hm. |
18:37.30 | kergoth | works fine if you enable it, afaik |
18:37.43 | kergoth | look at the messages module configuration |
18:37.44 | Kadrahil | you have to actually enable the /rw broadcast? |
18:38.07 | ulic | in parties ANYONE can /rw, so you don't even have to have the leader run it. |
18:38.07 | Kadrahil | i'll check it out tonight, thanks for that |
18:38.11 | Kadrahil | yeah. |
18:38.30 | Kadrahil | nobody was seeing the littlewigs /rw messages last time i tried it out |
18:38.50 | Kadrahil | i did like how it gave someone the skull when they got murmer's touch, so it made it more obvious to them |
18:39.03 | Kadrahil | murmur.. whatever |
18:39.13 | ulic | I don't even know what my settings are set, I know I personally see rw style message, my just be bigwigs not actual rw though. |
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18:39.25 | Kadrahil | ok |
18:39.41 | ulic | Kadrahil: Omar aura get's iconed too. |
18:39.54 | ulic | they've got the plague, run away! |
18:40.03 | Kadrahil | :o |
18:40.24 | Kadrahil | i wonder if it gives someone an icon when they start exploding when you're fighting shade trash |
18:40.35 | Kadrahil | or curator trash, or whichever trash it is that makes you arcane explode |
18:41.03 | ulic | I dunno, as that would be in bigwigs proper and my guild hasn't made it to kara yet :) |
18:41.11 | Kadrahil | ahh |
18:41.12 | Kadrahil | yeah |
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18:48.46 | Kodek[WoW] | ummm... good evening... |
18:49.03 | Kodek[WoW] | or... maybe morning... |
18:49.13 | Kodek[WoW] | is there anybody alive? |
18:49.27 | Kadrahil | possibly |
18:49.31 | Coruss | no |
18:49.34 | evl | is there anyway to alude the randomness of hydross? |
18:49.34 | evl | [20:48] <evl> WHAM he's poison again |
18:49.35 | Coruss | we're all undead here |
18:49.41 | evl | poop boss |
18:49.47 | Kodek[WoW] | im have a troubles with installing wowace T_T |
18:49.50 | Yssaril | is there a function to check if an item is bop or do i have to scan the tooltip? |
18:50.59 | ulic | Yssaril: I believe IsEquipable says false if it's not bound. |
18:50.59 | kebinusan | evl: randomness? |
18:51.14 | ulic | not sure that's what you need but.... |
18:51.21 | Yssaril | k will try that |
18:51.33 | evl | he just keeps going poison |
18:51.35 | evl | after we switch him |
18:51.38 | evl | there has to be something the tanks can do |
18:51.39 | ulic | double check the function name, but it should be something like that. |
18:51.42 | kebinusan | Best thing to do is make sure any dps or idiot healer who uses hots is moving to the right side of the flags as the tank transitions hydross so no one pulls him back across the transition point |
18:51.50 | Yssaril | its close enough :P |
18:52.26 | kebinusan | Id also suggest your tanks strafe him across the transition point instead of back him across if they are doing that |
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19:04.27 | NeoTron | If there's one thing hydross isn't, it's random |
19:04.47 | Fisker- | he's random 100 |
19:04.57 | Kadrahil | random 999999 |
19:05.12 | ulic | he's consistently random? |
19:06.46 | NeoTron | if he keeps switching back it's because someone pulled aggro as kebinusan said |
19:07.10 | NeoTron | hots, dots, health stones, mana and health potions, shots/bolts in-air hitting after the switch et |
19:07.29 | NeoTron | two hunters misdirecting can be incredibly useful here |
19:07.53 | dodga | Hm, noob question inc... what's the difference between TPS and E-TPS in Omen? |
19:08.03 | Aens|Superiority | dont even need MD. Just need your retarded casters to not be casting anything when the switch starts. |
19:08.25 | Aens|Superiority | we've wiped cause of a fireball dot once |
19:08.27 | NeoTron | Aens|Superiority: for sure but MD helps |
19:08.27 | Kadrahil | Dear retarted casters. L2notcastduringswitch, kthx. |
19:08.37 | kebinusan | I blame the hunters |
19:08.46 | NeoTron | we've had hunters pull more than once... |
19:08.47 | kebinusan | :-) |
19:08.50 | Kadrahil | everyone always blames us :/ |
19:08.56 | NeoTron | not just during transitions but during mid-fights |
19:09.00 | Kadrahil | well, that isn't true really |
19:09.58 | NeoTron | if a hunter pulls aggro he needs to be bitchslapped :P |
19:10.00 | NeoTron | l2fd |
19:10.09 | Mudkips | "it got resisted twice" |
19:10.11 | Mudkips | dur dur dur |
19:10.26 | NeoTron | then it might be a good idea to stop dps :P |
19:10.32 | durcyn | i'll stop blaming hunters for shit when i stop seeing serpent sting on raid bosses. |
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19:11.25 | kergoth | http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/currentui-20070815-inraid.png.html opinion? think maybe i should have errormonster throttle, i dont need to see a long string of out of range to knwo i'm out of range |
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19:12.08 | kebinusan | Yeah if a warrior gets a bad parry or dodge string you will probably see things like that... if you aoe the adds you should be so far ahead on the enrage timer its just a matter of asking idiots to stop pewpewing for 10 seconds |
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19:13.00 | Kadrahil | durcyn: :o |
19:13.12 | cryogen | my idiots resent being called idiots :( |
19:13.22 | kergoth | lol |
19:13.32 | cryogen | which kinda conflicts with my enjoyment of calling idiots idiots |
19:13.39 | kebinusan | instruction impaired |
19:13.57 | durcyn | i usually go with "doorknob-humping retards" |
19:14.00 | Kadrahil | durcyn: what's bad about serpent sting? |
19:14.16 | cryogen | i just stop on 'retards' |
19:14.34 | cryogen | but then i get about 100 /ws saying "you cant call people retards!" |
19:14.53 | cryogen | interesting conversations usually follow |
19:15.12 | Mudkips | serpent sting isn't good loldps and it takes up precious debuff slots |
19:15.19 | NeoTron | they should just make all raid item drops pretty much be tokens |
19:15.21 | NeoTron | at least armor |
19:15.34 | Kadrahil | Mudkips: ah |
19:15.38 | cryogen | in my guild before tbc loads of people gquit because i called them retards |
19:15.39 | NeoTron | having little/no druid / elemental shaman gear drop is a bummer |
19:15.40 | Kadrahil | Mudkips: i never thought about it that way |
19:15.44 | cryogen | which was good in a way, since they were retards |
19:15.50 | Kadrahil | Mudkips: and i play a hunter :X |
19:15.50 | kergoth | whats the max # of debuffs nowadays? 40 or something? |
19:15.54 | Mudkips | 40 |
19:15.56 | NeoTron | but I'd hate disenchanting the crap after the 1-2 people that needs it got it |
19:16.28 | Mudkips | Neotron, its a lot better now that it used to be |
19:16.34 | NeoTron | not really |
19:16.35 | kebinusan | 40 is too low |
19:16.40 | Mudkips | yes it has |
19:16.41 | kebinusan | but alas, I remember the good ole 8 debuff limits |
19:16.48 | durcyn | Kadrahil: totally useless low dps debuff-slot-wasting bullshit |
19:16.52 | Mudkips | don't deny it Neotron |
19:16.56 | Kadrahil | durcyn: yeah, gotcha |
19:17.02 | NeoTron | theer's really no balance mooonkin gear available |
19:17.13 | Kadrahil | durcyn: i don't use it a whole lot, but yeah |
19:17.34 | NeoTron | they need balanced drop percentage chances,tokens or something |
19:17.44 | NeoTron | dunno how many times we've DE'd the stupid healing leather piece from gruul |
19:17.50 | Kadrahil | does scorpid sting actually help any? |
19:17.51 | Mudkips | so this is based on balance moonkin gear? |
19:17.51 | durcyn | Kadrahil: it's ok for levelling and soloing, maybe even 5 mans, but it's totally inappropriate for raid bosses |
19:18.04 | NeoTron | primaril mail/leahter offspec gear |
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19:18.10 | Mudkips | that's a fair comparison seeing as moonkin spec isn't a popular build |
19:18.21 | Mudkips | thats not a fair** |
19:18.30 | Amadeo | Your mom's a fair |
19:18.32 | NeoTron | the problem I'm laying out is that IF you add more offspec gear, it will make everyone else suffer |
19:18.42 | NeoTron | unless you use tokens or a balanced/smart drop system |
19:18.59 | Kadrahil | durcyn: does scorpid sting help at all? |
19:18.59 | NeoTron | today cloth gear is used by leather/mail uses |
19:19.09 | NeoTron | which keeps the risk for DE low |
19:19.26 | Kadrahil | durcyn: note my raiding experience is limited to kara and gruul |
19:19.37 | cryogen | just add another loot drop to bosses |
19:19.40 | cryogen | for off spec drops :p |
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19:19.59 | cryogen | so they drop 2 tokens 1 epic and 1 off epic |
19:20.36 | Megalon | but tokens are already off spec drops ;c |
19:20.58 | cryogen | so then you have 1 of each |
19:21.00 | cryogen | fair! |
19:21.32 | Megalon | ;D |
19:22.02 | Mudkips | ya seriously |
19:22.26 | Mudkips | t4 t5 and t6 all can be turned into different gear for hybrid classes |
19:22.44 | Mudkips | I forgot that for a moment |
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19:24.00 | NeoTron | Megalon: yeah but tokens is just 5 pieces |
19:24.24 | NeoTron | and typically the non-token drops often ar better than the tier sets |
19:24.31 | cryogen | and random epics are fun for all the family |
19:24.41 | Mudkips | thats asking a bit too much |
19:24.53 | jme | NeoTron: but the tier sets look so hawt |
19:25.03 | NeoTron | yep |
19:25.03 | Mudkips | drops were never made to be consistent |
19:25.06 | Mudkips | its like the lottery |
19:25.09 | NeoTron | I am going for 4 T5 |
19:25.10 | Mudkips | sometimes you win sometimes you lose |
19:25.18 | NeoTron | most of the time you lose it seems |
19:25.20 | jme | NeoTron: i am in 2 T4 atm :( |
19:25.21 | Mudkips | yes |
19:25.25 | Mudkips | like the lottery :( |
19:25.35 | NeoTron | it's really a bummber now more so than every because you really tend to move along faster |
19:25.43 | NeoTron | we already don't do gruul and mags (offnight sometimes) |
19:25.51 | NeoTron | and within a month probably barely won't do SSC/TK |
19:25.55 | NeoTron | few people will get their tier sets |
19:26.03 | NeoTron | I need my head piece from vashj, that's it |
19:26.11 | NeoTron | but I might not get it |
19:26.20 | Amadeo | Who has spare 144pin SDRAM? :P |
19:26.26 | jme | you know you want it |
19:26.29 | NeoTron | it's a pretty sick set bonus - 10% more dps kind of a bonus |
19:26.48 | jme | NeoTron: i like the hunter t5/t6 steady shot set bonus |
19:27.08 | Fisker- | yay |
19:27.10 | jme | T4... multishot bonus is like, uhh |
19:27.13 | Fisker- | i has a fel reaver's piston |
19:27.20 | jme | I USE MULTISHOT IN RAIDS YES |
19:27.29 | jme | :X |
19:27.36 | cryogen | what good hunter wouldnt! |
19:27.46 | NeoTron | jme: ... of cours eyou do? |
19:27.51 | jme | yes! |
19:28.06 | NeoTron | can't say if you're sarcastic but.. alas |
19:28.21 | jme | i actually just spam steady shot, auto shot, and kill command |
19:28.28 | jme | and still top dps |
19:29.11 | durcyn | jme: "Polymorph on foo removed by Jme's Multi-Shot" |
19:29.23 | jme | durcyn: yeah, i don't use it on trash :p |
19:29.39 | jme | well, nightbane skellies |
19:30.24 | jme | multishot crit, OH CRAP FEIGN DEATH |
19:32.07 | Qaarh | uh what the..? Baggins stopped working all of a sudden? |
19:32.52 | Fisker- | nice |
19:32.56 | Fisker- | 240 mp5 atm |
19:33.01 | Fisker- | raidbuffed |
19:33.27 | kebinusan | Hunters are so bad, gee I have a free threat wipe every 30 seconds.. instead I wait until the mob actually targets me before using it |
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19:35.00 | Bruners | kebinusan: well, hopefully you can continue dpsing without doing that |
19:35.35 | Keya | we have a hunter that was actually moaning cause we wanted him to use Scorpid sting instead of Serpent Sting... |
19:35.53 | Keya | *sigh* |
19:36.12 | Keya | and he does ~400 dps total over a raiding evening |
19:36.59 | Zicon | 400? My healing-specced priest can do better DPS than that. :P |
19:37.25 | Keya | yep he's rivaling our feral druid tanks |
19:37.44 | Zicon | (about ~500 sustained; I've checked) |
19:38.05 | kebinusan | yeah we have a hunter who pretty regularly gets beat out by the prot warrior tanking |
19:38.26 | Gngsk | shot rotations are hard :( |
19:38.46 | Keya | why are there so many terrible hunters - I don't know a single other class that has such a high percentage of terrible players |
19:38.56 | Amadeo | Gngsk: yeah, eventually you just pass out! |
19:39.09 | Gngsk | prolly cuz they didn't level up with a swing timer |
19:39.58 | Keya | yeah you could blame blizz for making leveling hunters so easy :D |
19:41.11 | Coruss | by and large hunters level solo |
19:41.13 | Coruss | because they can |
19:41.30 | Coruss | then when they get into groups, they end up doing **** all b/c they're not used to it |
19:42.07 | genetik- | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t15164-hunter_psyche_why_so_many_just_dont_get/ |
19:42.10 | genetik- | decent discussion about hunters |
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19:42.37 | ulic | is there a thread like that for warriors, I have a warrior I need to teach out to be a warrior. |
19:42.46 | ulic | s/out/how |
19:43.30 | genetik- | did you look? heh |
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19:44.04 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47207 10FuBar_ButtonSmashFu/FuBar_ButtonSmashFu.lua: |
19:44.04 | CIA-14 | FuBar_ButtonSmashFu: |
19:44.04 | CIA-14 | - icons bugfixing |
19:44.06 | ulic | no, I can't read that fast :) |
19:44.10 | ulic | guess I will. |
19:47.30 | Funkeh` | does chat msg addon do officer? |
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19:49.15 | CIA-14 | 03Tristan * r47208 10Enhancer/bonus/EP.lua: |
19:49.15 | CIA-14 | Enhancer: |
19:49.15 | CIA-14 | - Bug: If BestGem manages to find a link it'll always link the same gem for normal and BoK gem. Fixed |
19:49.20 | ulic | Funkeh`: you mean SendAddonMessage? |
19:49.56 | Funkeh` | yes sorry |
19:50.03 | ulic | wowwiki says no |
19:50.19 | ulic | only, party, raid, guild, battleground, whisper |
19:51.06 | Funkeh` | Yeah read that was wondering if it was out of date |
19:51.32 | NeoTron | hunters can dps well but it takes effort to do so (nd mana) |
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19:56.04 | Mikk | hunters can do INSANE dps |
19:56.14 | Mikk | BM hunters need a big effin nerf if you ask me |
19:56.53 | Mikk | we've got a sword rogue that's outdpsing bloody everyone by miles |
19:56.57 | Mikk | except for our BM hunter |
19:57.01 | Mikk | who tops even him |
19:57.02 | Mikk | nuts |
19:57.15 | nevcairiel | same here |
19:57.18 | art3mis | yu must suck then |
19:57.29 | nevcairiel | we usually had our rogues on top of everything |
19:57.36 | nevcairiel | lately a BM hunter climbed up there |
19:57.38 | Mudkips | your warlocks / other rogues must undergeared or extremely suck |
19:57.46 | Mudkips | its not hard to beat hunters on damage output |
19:57.52 | Mikk | heh |
19:57.53 | Mikk | that's what you'd think yeah |
19:58.00 | Mudkips | thats what I KNOW |
19:58.07 | nevcairiel | thats whats wrong |
19:58.07 | Mikk | bloody huntard is sustaining something like 1400 dps |
19:58.17 | [Ammo] | pet merged ofcourse |
19:58.19 | nevcairiel | a good geared BM hunter can do insane dps |
19:58.21 | nevcairiel | of course |
19:58.38 | genetik- | only if they have a good shot rotation |
19:58.48 | [Ammo] | which can be done with one macro |
19:59.11 | genetik- | a macro can't neccesarily prevent clipping their autoshot |
19:59.29 | [Ammo] | true |
19:59.36 | [Ammo] | but shot timers will |
19:59.38 | [Ammo] | etc |
19:59.40 | [Ammo] | somewhat |
19:59.43 | genetik- | which, from what i've read, is the number one reason for shitty hunter dps |
19:59.46 | Mudkips | me dizzy need food |
19:59.47 | Megalon | the top geared hunter on our server was beast mastery specced |
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20:00.06 | genetik- | i've been playing around with a pre-made hunter on the PTR to learn more about shot rotations and whatnot |
20:00.07 | Megalon | then he transfered to kazzak to be beast mastery for Last Resort ;D |
20:00.16 | genetik- | it can get pretty complicated |
20:00.33 | Megalon | complicated to hit steady shot? :P |
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20:02.38 | Mecdemort | anything more than autoshot is too complicated for most hunters |
20:06.41 | Qaarh | mmkay, I'm definitely getting an error from Baggins.. Baggins.lua:1306: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
20:06.56 | *** join/#wowace Stan__ (n=Stan__@p5499544E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
20:07.15 | Qaarh | from the WAU version, so it should be from the svn. Seems it has to do with duplicate items |
20:07.43 | ckknight | hey all |
20:07.46 | ckknight | how's everyone doing today? |
20:08.10 | Qaarh | quite good, you? |
20:08.35 | ckknight | nifty |
20:08.39 | ckknight | today's my birthday |
20:08.58 | jme | happy birthday then |
20:09.22 | jme | <3 |
20:09.31 | Qaarh | happy birthday, ck :) |
20:09.41 | ulic | and you're spending it with us? How sweet. |
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20:10.17 | Tornhoof | qaarh, go baggins setup, find the duplicate config, change it from bag to global ;) |
20:10.55 | Qaarh | Tornhoof: Global does the same. |
20:11.02 | Qaarh | but then it's line 1298 instead |
20:11.04 | ckknight | ulic: I'm gonna go drive around a bit later |
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20:11.19 | ckknight | kergoth: you look at that contract stuff yet? |
20:11.20 | Tornhoof | i see, global fixed it here |
20:12.01 | Qaarh | Tornhoof: It fixed after a /reloadui... |
20:12.05 | Tornhoof | yeh |
20:13.56 | ckknight | I demand a parade |
20:14.27 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r47209 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: stricter parser events for less spammage |
20:14.38 | Kemayo | ckknight: Happy birthday... what did you get us? |
20:14.49 | ckknight | a new addon framework! |
20:15.22 | ckknight | :-P |
20:16.24 | ulic | is it the same one that Timmy got? If it's not then it's not good enough. |
20:16.34 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began | check out #wowace-cia for realtime commit log | Today is ckknight's birthday and he demands a parade |
20:16.56 | Qaarh | Hehe |
20:18.34 | ckknight | lol |
20:18.52 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r47210 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: disable fade event until I can figure out what to do with it |
20:19.15 | Amadeo | He means male night elf |
20:19.24 | Zicon | No, she means female. |
20:20.26 | Amadeo | I forgot, nobody plays males :P |
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20:21.49 | pb_ee1 | Hum... why do I have no BigWigsmessage at all on A'lar? |
20:22.01 | nevcairiel | there is nothing in p1 |
20:22.06 | nevcairiel | but meteor in p2 |
20:22.09 | nevcairiel | and enrage |
20:22.27 | pb_ee1 | Hum... wrong, in P1 there is a fixed timer when A'lar changes platform |
20:22.55 | pb_ee1 | at least, DBM shows it |
20:23.20 | pb_ee1 | -at least |
20:23.44 | Mudkips | wow |
20:23.53 | nevcairiel | not like thats important now |
20:23.53 | Mudkips | I've never been this dizzy from no food |
20:23.54 | [Ammo] | it's random 30-40 seconds |
20:23.55 | nevcairiel | l2p |
20:23.55 | nevcairiel | :P |
20:24.10 | nevcairiel | p1 on alar is like spank only |
20:24.13 | nevcairiel | dont even tank! |
20:24.21 | nevcairiel | only tank proximity |
20:24.22 | nevcairiel | hehe |
20:24.24 | Mudkips | hey I tank |
20:24.30 | pb_ee1 | between 25 and 30 :p |
20:24.39 | Mudkips | its my job to collect adds and suicide in p2 |
20:26.18 | pb_ee1 | well actually i don't use it |
20:26.33 | pb_ee1 | but i know a few people are using dbm for a'lar because bigwigs does not display these bars |
20:26.40 | Amadeo | What does this mean on Curse? "This project and its downloads are currently unavailable while our moderators investigate it based on user reports." |
20:26.47 | Amadeo | Is that a standard thing, or something is up? |
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20:27.21 | ulic | it means they make us look bad :( |
20:27.36 | ulic | they do that if the zip file has like a .bat or .exe, maybe other reasons. |
20:27.45 | Amadeo | I see |
20:27.48 | ulic | so mean while users think authors are evil |
20:27.50 | nevcairiel | Amadeo: something marked it |
20:28.05 | ulic | of course I'd imagine it would say that if it was an actual user report as well :) |
20:28.12 | Amadeo | It was for NECB |
20:28.18 | Amadeo | Which I am looking to replace |
20:28.31 | Funkeh` | BigWigs displays bars on Al'ar fine |
20:28.35 | Funkeh` | Retards can't see them it seems |
20:28.37 | ulic | my guess is that it was recently updated, and that's why it's 'on hold'. |
20:28.40 | Funkeh` | I just did Al'ar 5min ago |
20:28.49 | Amadeo | ulic: That was my guess also, but I haven't used Curse in a long time |
20:29.02 | nevcairiel | but not for platform switch in phase1, or Funkeh`? |
20:29.04 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: he complains about missing movement bars for p1 platform changes |
20:29.09 | [Ammo] | not like that is important |
20:29.11 | Funkeh` | lol? |
20:29.19 | ulic | happened to me with LittleWigs, I emailed them, but I never heard back. |
20:29.23 | Funkeh` | How does that change the course of the fight sorry? |
20:29.24 | nevcairiel | we told him thats not needed |
20:29.30 | Funkeh` | More like a gimic. |
20:30.11 | nevcairiel | but i guess La Vendetta needs them to kill Alar =P (did they rename the guild with the bossmod too anyway?) |
20:30.46 | CIA-14 | 03saroz * r47211 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: Ammo must be coding something else than LUA |
20:30.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:31.10 | nevcairiel | its Lua damnit! |
20:31.10 | nevcairiel | :p |
20:31.15 | [Ammo] | yeah it's lua |
20:31.38 | durcyn | that's just saroz yelling |
20:31.41 | [Ammo] | oh yeah // is no comment :) |
20:31.43 | [Ammo] | haha |
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20:31.45 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:31.49 | nevcairiel | there he is! |
20:31.53 | [Ammo] | rofl |
20:31.55 | Saroz | Ammo fgs |
20:31.57 | Saroz | wtf you smoking man |
20:32.01 | [Ammo] | weed |
20:32.03 | [Ammo] | I live in .nl |
20:32.04 | Saroz | :p |
20:32.09 | Saroz | ahhhh nuff said |
20:32.34 | nevcairiel | i guess we all need to visit ammo at some point |
20:32.43 | nevcairiel | its only like 2h to the border anyway |
20:33.06 | [Ammo] | and I live close to the border :) |
20:33.08 | Amadeo | wtf |
20:33.09 | Amadeo | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html |
20:33.12 | Amadeo | lol |
20:33.25 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:33.46 | dreamss2 | shiet |
20:33.53 | dreamss2 | how u gonna hit the pvp trinekt then |
20:34.03 | [Ammo] | you don't! |
20:34.07 | [Ammo] | but a least you won't panic |
20:34.13 | AKX | I like that. :D |
20:34.22 | nevcairiel | you still see your action bars |
20:34.28 | nevcairiel | look at the screenshot ffs :P |
20:34.40 | dreamss2 | i did |
20:34.51 | pb_ee1 | sorry I was in fight |
20:35.01 | nevcairiel | oh a mikma addon, why am i not surprised :P |
20:35.53 | pb_ee1 | again, Funkeh`, [Ammo], nevcairiel, i'm not complaining about anything, i'm just telling you what other users say. if you don't think it should be added to bigwigs, it's your choice, not mine. i still think it's just too bad to be strict on a so simple thing ;) |
20:36.15 | Shadowed| | If you add 500 simple things, then it becomes a big useless simple thing =) |
20:36.35 | durcyn | dbm seriously has timers for tank positioning on alar? |
20:36.39 | [Ammo] | I hold a pretty strict 'NO' policy for bigwigs |
20:36.42 | durcyn | that's amazingly stupid |
20:36.54 | nevcairiel | when we encounterd alar the first time i wondered why bigwigs isnt showing anything in p1 |
20:37.01 | nevcairiel | but then i figured it, it doesnt have to :P |
20:37.02 | [Ammo] | and there's only 3 people allowed coding without consult basically |
20:37.09 | pb_ee1 | I don't feel that it needs to be added, again :p just telling you what other users say |
20:37.20 | ckknight | [Ammo]: am I in the list? |
20:37.38 | ckknight | :-P |
20:37.41 | nevcairiel | even i could answer that :P |
20:37.49 | pb_ee1 | no worries, [Ammo]. I won't touch the code before asking if i can do so |
20:38.07 | [Ammo] | ckknight: you are not in the list |
20:38.13 | ckknight | lamer :-P |
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20:38.15 | ckknight | but I understand |
20:38.21 | ckknight | I don't plan on hacking it anyway |
20:38.25 | ckknight | since I don't have raiding experience |
20:38.30 | ckknight | which is the general breakdown |
20:38.42 | ckknight | i.e. why none of my addons are raid-specific |
20:38.42 | Amadeo | I installed BigWigs but I can't change my hairstyle, what's wrong!? |
20:38.57 | durcyn | hairstyles aren't patched in yet, bucko! |
20:39.01 | Amadeo | oh, damn! |
20:39.02 | ckknight | you forgot to wipe your WTF folder, Amadeo |
20:39.09 | Amadeo | What should I wipe it with? |
20:39.53 | snurre | http://www.moanmyip.com/ lol wtf |
20:39.59 | ckknight | napkins |
20:40.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
20:40.14 | Amadeo | all I have is an empty diet coke can, will that work? |
20:40.39 | mikma | nevcairiel: :P |
20:41.00 | mikma | btw, i tested JJ200.. in PvP and PvE.. now it seems to work like a charm |
20:41.14 | mikma | got feared and all i saw was "Don't Panic" |
20:41.20 | ckknight | Amadeo: sure, go nuts |
20:41.22 | ckknight | gonna shower |
20:41.23 | mikma | try not to laugh when that happens |
20:41.25 | durcyn | mikma: that's pretty swell |
20:41.52 | mikma | the most nasty thing is you can't even see the minimap lol |
20:42.33 | kergoth | you shoudl fix that, minimap would be good |
20:42.39 | mikma | nah |
20:42.43 | mikma | then you can see where you are going |
20:43.10 | genetik- | that'd be awesome for the second boss in shadow labyrinth |
20:43.10 | genetik- | haha |
20:44.54 | mikma | hmm, i'm not quite sure will it work with that boss |
20:45.21 | genetik- | does it react to a list of debuffs? i haven't looked at the code yet |
20:45.45 | mikma | no. it just reacts to 2 things. CombatLockdown and player_lost_control |
20:45.50 | genetik- | ah |
20:45.59 | mikma | if the boss fires that event, then it will work |
20:46.15 | [Ammo] | well you won't have control : |
20:46.34 | mikma | but will the event be fired :) that's another thing |
20:46.43 | RaydenUnicyclist | what is "Rittsyn's" ? some misspelled KZ spellcaster drop |
20:47.33 | NeoTron | shadow dmg necklace |
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20:47.39 | RaydenUnicyclist | what is the name? |
20:47.42 | RaydenUnicyclist | i can't find it on wowhead |
20:47.58 | [Ammo] | lost pendabt |
20:48.00 | [Ammo] | pendant |
20:48.02 | mikma | dreamss2: of course you can use the pvp tricket with my mod :) i've tested that already. WorldFrame has really low framelevel and my mod uses that +1 (it's still pretty low so all windows and such will open over the black frame) |
20:48.11 | RaydenUnicyclist | ritssyn's |
20:48.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | yeah i want that |
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20:48.33 | [Ammo] | great affliction pendant |
20:49.30 | RaydenUnicyclist | <- shadow priest |
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20:52.32 | CIA-14 | 03jwensley2 * r47212 10MageAnnounce/ (Locale-enUS.lua MageAnnounce.lua MageAnnounce.toc): |
20:52.32 | CIA-14 | MageAnnounce: |
20:52.32 | CIA-14 | - Added option to enable in BGs |
20:52.32 | CIA-14 | - Fix for Counterspell |
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20:54.40 | pb_ee1 | Does Violation still saves out of combat data? |
20:54.44 | pb_ee1 | save * |
20:55.02 | pb_ee1 | I'm using Recount but my computer can't manage so much memory usage |
20:55.55 | sb | get more memory ;p |
20:57.34 | pb_ee1 | On my normal computer yeah, but i will be playing on my laptop until october |
20:57.43 | pb_ee1 | too expensive |
20:57.50 | sb | mh okay |
20:58.01 | pb_ee1 | What about the ooc data of Violation? ;)= |
20:59.03 | [Ammo] | short answer: nope |
20:59.27 | pb_ee1 | so it will display only in combat data? |
20:59.39 | [Ammo] | ofcourse not |
20:59.58 | pb_ee1 | xD ? |
21:00.23 | pb_ee1 | actually i'd like to have the overall only in combat healing data |
21:00.37 | [Ammo] | someone wrote a module for that |
21:00.39 | [Ammo] | it's on svn |
21:01.11 | pb_ee1 | why does violation also saves data made when not in combat? |
21:01.24 | [Ammo] | because it's coded that way |
21:01.26 | pb_ee1 | I really don't understand the point of doing this |
21:02.52 | genetik- | when you're not in combat, someone else might be |
21:02.53 | CIA-14 | 03gits * r47213 10Acolyte2/core.lua: |
21:02.53 | CIA-14 | Acolyte2: |
21:02.53 | CIA-14 | - target name when casting should now be correct |
21:03.17 | [Ammo] | that's not the reason |
21:03.20 | genetik- | heh |
21:03.37 | pb_ee1 | in a raid, if someone is in combat, everybody is in combat anyway |
21:04.00 | [Ammo] | just set it to reset on combat start |
21:04.11 | Arrowmaster | not always |
21:04.46 | pb_ee1 | how about the overall data? impossible to save it then |
21:04.52 | Arrowmaster | which is why the effectivehealing module changed from checking the players combat state to checking the target and source of the heals combat state |
21:04.53 | pb_ee1 | I'll give a try to the effectiveHealing module |
21:05.12 | pb_ee1 | recount uses too much memory |
21:05.23 | pb_ee1 | it uses itself more memory than all of my other addons |
21:05.38 | pb_ee1 | even if recount is really an awesome tool :| |
21:06.07 | Cryect | Heh, I hope to address that more in Recount 2 |
21:06.26 | [dRaCo] | recount 2? |
21:06.33 | genetik- | rerecount |
21:06.35 | genetik- | heh |
21:06.40 | [dRaCo] | 1 isnt out of beta yet, is it? |
21:08.03 | Cryect | Kinda is |
21:09.23 | pb_ee1 | Cryect, i'll use recount again on my "big" computer (2Go RAM), but Recount is not recommended for only 768Mo of RAM :/ |
21:09.32 | Cryect | I will agree with that |
21:09.39 | pb_ee1 | Violation does not seem to record data the way I want |
21:09.48 | pb_ee1 | I suppose i'll have to go back on SW Stats |
21:09.51 | pb_ee1 | Grumpf |
21:09.56 | Arrowmaster | how do you 'want'? |
21:10.42 | cc-work | does reducing amount of mods you run increase your FPS? i'm constantly only running at 15fps..or 8-10 during boss encounters.. |
21:10.57 | Arrowmaster | no |
21:10.58 | pb_ee1 | only ooc data, but if it isn't the way the author wants to do it, i won't ask him to do it ;) |
21:11.06 | kergoth | Cryect, you said that the graph window shows dps.. i'm not seeing that, even with integrate turned off.. where is it? i must be missing it |
21:11.08 | Arrowmaster | only ooc? |
21:11.15 | pb_ee1 | only non-ooc sorry ;p |
21:11.22 | [dRaCo] | well, depends on the mods u are using |
21:11.23 | Cryect | what do you mean you are missing it? |
21:11.28 | Cryect | the line for Damage is DPS |
21:11.29 | Arrowmaster | pb_ee1: use violation_effectivehealing |
21:11.32 | cc-work | need something to increase FPS...have a Radeon X800 videocard |
21:11.42 | pb_ee1 | what about people killing rats with pyroblasts? |
21:12.15 | Arrowmaster | well if theyre in combat whats it matter? |
21:12.23 | Arrowmaster | wouldnt swstats record that too |
21:12.43 | Cryect | kergoth: is the damage line not there or somethign? |
21:12.48 | kergoth | ohh, i'm blind. i thought that was total damage :) |
21:12.58 | kergoth | okay, thats cool |
21:13.08 | Cryect | its only total damage if you integrate :-p |
21:13.19 | kergoth | right right, makes sense |
21:14.06 | NeoTron | one of our MT's now has three internet connections.. cable (new, got because dsl didn't work), DSL and clearwire >:-) |
21:15.13 | Diao | o_O |
21:15.18 | Diao | and pays for all 3? |
21:16.09 | Xuerian | cc-work: More things than your card affect fps. What is your cpu, your ram, for the most obvious? |
21:16.14 | Xuerian | er |
21:16.18 | Xuerian | .. fps than card. |
21:16.30 | Xuerian | XD |
21:16.48 | jme | Xuerian needs brain <-- fixed |
21:17.03 | pb_ee1 | Arrowmaster: right. the killing rats with pyroblasts thing was stupid. |
21:17.26 | Cryect | pb_ee1: heh new version of recount shouldn't record that :-p |
21:17.37 | Cryect | but it mattered there for a nother reason |
21:17.42 | pb_ee1 | Cryect, nice, you're doing an amasing job ;) |
21:17.44 | Cryect | for people trying to look at last fights |
21:17.52 | pb_ee1 | I'll give a try to violating |
21:17.53 | jme | for a sec there i read that as "an amusing job" |
21:17.53 | pb_ee1 | First. |
21:17.56 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: one of our warriors has 3+ isps too that he sometimes switches between mid raid |
21:18.02 | jme | Xuerian: BURN! |
21:18.04 | pb_ee1 | And give feedback here if something bugs me |
21:18.04 | jme | Xuerian: :P |
21:18.06 | Cryect | I rather do an amusing job than an amazing job |
21:19.25 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: but his reason for having 3 isps is that they all suck since he lives on an small island in the atlantic |
21:26.35 | pb_ee1 | Who does manage the development of WAU? |
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21:31.47 | Mecdemort | Anyone know if the old Baggins section/bag configs used dewdrop or tablet? |
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21:32.17 | kergoth | Cryect, oh, you ever havea chance to try out dashboard with recount? |
21:32.30 | ennuilg | Good grief, creating localisation files is the most dull thing in the world... |
21:32.37 | RogueShadow | mmm. tonight or tomorrow i'm gonna work on getting wow to play well in ubuntu |
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21:36.20 | ennuilg | Mecdmort: I don't know for sure, but in my memory it felt like Tablet rather than DewDrop. |
21:39.32 | Mecdemort | ennuilg: i don't know exactly what tablet is, but it didnt seem like dewdrop |
21:41.31 | CIA-14 | 03Tristan * r47215 10Enhancer/ (Console.lua Localization.lua bonus/EP.lua bonus/EPGems.lua): |
21:41.31 | CIA-14 | Enhancer: |
21:41.31 | CIA-14 | - Bug fixed: The program that parses gems from wowhead.com for me missed a few gems last run for some reason so here's a new one |
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21:42.03 | Mecdemort | so fubar uses tablet for the main tooltip, and dewdrop for the rightclick options? |
21:42.33 | Mikk | Mecdemort: it used tablet for the big window and dewdrop for dropdown submenus |
21:42.38 | jme | are hunter pets affected by stoned and shatter in the gruul fight? |
21:42.47 | Mikk | Mecdemort: correct |
21:42.54 | Mikk | jme: no |
21:42.58 | Mikk | afak |
21:43.16 | cryogen | this was asked last night and was answered no quite decisvely |
21:43.29 | jme | i don't remember if it was me that asked it :P |
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21:44.14 | jme | at least i don't think so... i was playin wow all last night |
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21:49.28 | ennuilg | Which Babble module contains mob names? None look particularly likely to me unless I'm missing something. |
21:51.01 | [Ammo] | Babble-Boss contains the important ones |
21:52.33 | ennuilg | Hmmm... So are things like "Crystalhide Basilisk" not translated in the non-English locales, or has Babble just not got a module for them yet? |
21:53.16 | Mecdemort | i dont think theres a module for random mobs |
21:53.18 | Elkano | there is no BabbleMobs |
21:53.32 | [Ammo] | taht would be huge |
21:53.40 | ennuilg | Fair enough. (lol - yes it would be) |
21:56.19 | ulic | I think in this internet age people don't laugh to themselves as much as we used to :) |
21:56.35 | ulic | everyone laughs out loud |
21:57.46 | CIA-14 | 03karls * r47216 10DKPmon_EPGP/ (epgp.lua localization.enUS.lua): |
21:57.46 | CIA-14 | DKPmon_EPGP: |
21:57.46 | CIA-14 | - Confirmation pop-up added when executing decay |
21:57.46 | CIA-14 | - Added the ability to specify the cost of winning an item on a greed bid as a percent of winning the same item on a need bid. |
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22:03.11 | dfdf | i just installed catographer and catographer mining to my addons folder and i put the lua files from catographer databases into my saved variables folder but when i look at my map i don't see any ore nodes |
22:03.24 | dfdf | but both addons are functioning because i can access their menus from the map |
22:03.51 | dfdf | i've follow all the instructions and install notes for the databases i read online and made sure to install the files when wow wasn't running but still i don't see any ore nodes |
22:04.00 | dfdf | can anyone help me with this please? |
22:04.42 | [dRaCo] | sure u loaded the right profile? |
22:04.47 | dfdf | hmm |
22:04.50 | dfdf | it's in default |
22:04.53 | ulic | mining doesn't populate the map with data I don't believe |
22:04.59 | ulic | you have to get the _data one for that. |
22:05.06 | dfdf | yeah i got both |
22:05.13 | dfdf | the _data and _mining files |
22:05.30 | ulic | did you check the menu to make sure the are enabled |
22:05.34 | ulic | the Cart menu that is. |
22:06.04 | dfdf | wrong saved varialbles folder |
22:06.24 | ulic | I don't remember having to put anything into the SV folder |
22:06.37 | dfdf | i put them in C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\accountname\SavedVariables |
22:07.11 | dfdf | rather than C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\accountname\Khadgar\charactername |
22:07.15 | dfdf | i'll give it a try |
22:07.23 | dfdf | thanks [dRaCo] |
22:07.24 | genetik- | just a quick question since you didn't really specify: the nodes don't show up on your map after you mine a node? |
22:07.34 | dfdf | oh they do |
22:07.44 | dfdf | but i want the prebuilt database of nodes to appear |
22:07.55 | dfdf | ulic - sounds like you didn't install the prebuilt database? |
22:07.56 | dfdf | brb |
22:08.44 | ulic | I did, I have about a bazillion herb and mining nodes :) |
22:12.35 | dfdf | and you didn't put lua files in the saved variables folder? |
22:12.50 | dfdf | i have the lua files in both saved variables folders and i've tried all profiles |
22:12.58 | ulic | I don't remember doing that. |
22:13.01 | dfdf | still no nodes only the one i mined since installing :( |
22:13.21 | cncfanatics | g'night people |
22:13.42 | ulic | dfdf: which is telling you to mess with SV? |
22:14.06 | dfdf | curse forum |
22:14.19 | dfdf | says to put the contents of _data in saved variables |
22:14.46 | ulic | bah, just get all the files from files.wowace.com and put them in like any other addon |
22:14.58 | dfdf | k |
22:15.08 | kergoth | anyone know of a little addon to just let me click on a tracking blip to target that by name? |
22:15.11 | dfdf | well i downloaded them from ace because they were later versions |
22:15.44 | ulic | dfdf you must be trying to just drop in other saved variables. the _data addon has all that compiled together already. |
22:15.57 | ulic | and he updates it fairly often. |
22:16.02 | dfdf | can you tell me where your Mining.lua is exactly? |
22:16.25 | ulic | I created no SV files by hand, I just installed the addons like any other addon. |
22:18.03 | calvin_ | hi gents, i came in last night because Omen wasnt showing my threat as MT of my guild. Ive tried disabling Pitbull, and its seeming to work now (I update both every day).. We're in terrokar and I attacked a lvl 62 worg, my friend attacked a 63. I ONLY did white attacks on mine yet showed up as threat on his mob. Any ideas? |
22:18.38 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: addon's can't do that (anymore) |
22:20.07 | calvin_ | Now he showed me (attacking a worg by myself) as having a negative value.. |
22:20.20 | calvin_ | I ve spent 3 days trying to solve this prob and I just cant... |
22:22.15 | Gnarfoz | calvin_: are the mobs of the same name? |
22:22.35 | calvin_ | No |
22:22.40 | calvin_ | well my bad |
22:22.43 | calvin_ | Same name diff levels |
22:23.11 | calvin_ | I was under the impression as long as name, sex, or level was diff it could distinguish? |
22:23.17 | Pheredhel | no only name |
22:23.22 | Gnarfoz | no, name only. combat log data doesn't show which one you're hitting |
22:23.24 | Gnarfoz | only who |
22:23.37 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. by name) |
22:23.41 | calvin_ | Gnancy, ok well thats a huge tip.. thank you... lemmie see how thats diff |
22:24.23 | dfdf | ulic - that did the tick and i would have isntalled the _data like any other addon if i hadn't read on curse not to |
22:24.25 | dfdf | ty :) |
22:24.42 | calvin_ | what about that negative value? I had my friend take a pic... On mine it showed normal (which it always has in kara) but everyone sees like my intial shield slam then i just drift to the bottom of omen |
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22:32.04 | ennuilg | CIA feeling sickly? Recent commit not appeared here, or on files.wowace.com and http://cia.vc/stats/author/ennuilg just sits there "Waiting for cia.vc" ... Known issue, or just very busy? |
22:32.23 | calvin_ | I have to say, its seeming that its Pitbull (although I know others have success using both), but when I disable it all is well |
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22:35.22 | Diao | maybe |
22:35.26 | Diao | just turn off the threat module in pitbull |
22:36.14 | calvin_ | Im reinstalling pitbull now to try that =) |
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22:47.27 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
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23:14.34 | Tinyboom | wtb sleep |
23:15.17 | sag_ich_nicht | have sleep, will not sell |
23:15.18 | sag_ich_nicht | good night |
23:15.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
23:17.40 | sylvanaar | kergoth, i did somethign like that for prat maybe you could adapt it for your use |
23:20.37 | kergoth | er, is armory borked? |
23:20.44 | kergoth | "You have encountered an error." |
23:20.46 | kergoth | how helpful! |
23:20.53 | sylvanaar | kergoth most likely you would combine a keybind and mouseover (look at the commented-out code in prat's telltarget module (there is an implementation of targeting that last person to send you a tell) |
23:21.14 | kergoth | will take a look, thanks |
23:21.15 | Thrae | !c us maelstrom thrae |
23:21.34 | Wobwork | >< |
23:21.35 | Thrae | They killed it |
23:21.38 | kergoth | booo |
23:21.51 | Wobwork | for a second there I read that "I C WHUT U R MAELSTROMMING THAR" |
23:22.15 | Diao | yea armory is borked atm |
23:22.28 | Wobwork | I clearly need sleep to prevent lolcats from overtaking my brain =P |
23:23.06 | sylvanaar | ok - does anyone know, can you proc darkmoon-blue dragon, then hit the bangle of endless blessings and get the added regen bonus? |
23:23.16 | kergoth | i should get off my ass and grind out scryers exalted for my shoulder enchant someday |
23:23.18 | kergoth | meh |
23:23.22 | kergoth | i hate rep grinds |
23:23.28 | sylvanaar | oh i need to do that too |
23:23.39 | TNZe | sylvanaar, I think that they blocked the ability to gain more than 100% mana regen |
23:23.40 | Thrae | Hmmm, getting 500 errors from armory now... |
23:23.51 | TNZe | and I'm getting decent performance from armory now |
23:23.54 | sylvanaar | i have 600 shy of *cough* honoref |
23:24.07 | TNZe | ie, not laggy as heck |
23:24.11 | sylvanaar | s/honoref/honored/ |
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23:26.56 | sylvanaar | TNZe they did for the blue dragon card itself |
23:27.14 | sylvanaar | it used to give you more that 100% |
23:27.30 | sylvanaar | i should go try |
23:30.42 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47220 10SnapshotBar/SnapshotBar.lua: |
23:30.42 | CIA-14 | SnapshotBar: |
23:30.42 | CIA-14 | - should now restore your macros and items from your bags to your action bars too |
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23:43.23 | sylvanaar | anyone else notice littlewigs warnings not being dislayed? |
23:43.52 | Funkeh` | No they've always worked fine for me |
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23:46.53 | ulic | sylvanaar: nothing has changed in a while, unless blizzard changed stuff. |
23:46.58 | ulic | sylvanaar: any particular instance? |
23:47.39 | sylvanaar | all |
23:48.13 | ulic | I haven't run any since like saturday, but Murmur worked then. |
23:48.14 | sylvanaar | there are 2 options for giving raidwarnings to your group |
23:48.34 | sylvanaar | one of them, disables the other which needs to be on |
23:48.51 | ulic | yea, that thing has always confused me |
23:49.04 | ulic | I think if you have it set to send to chat, then it doesn't do the /rw |
23:49.09 | ulic | but I'm not sure. |
23:49.12 | sylvanaar | yes |
23:49.13 | Funkeh` | untick broadcast to chat simple |
23:49.18 | sylvanaar | no |
23:49.25 | sylvanaar | both can be tic'ed |
23:49.39 | sylvanaar | but you hvae to tic one first or else its disabled |
23:49.42 | ulic | but when one get's ticked the other get's grayed out. |
23:49.54 | sylvanaar | and if that one is not tic'ed you wont broadcase |
23:49.58 | sylvanaar | t |
23:49.59 | ulic | that would make me think that it's automatically disabled |
23:50.06 | sylvanaar | it is |
23:50.08 | ulic | but I'm not expert on the interworking of BW |
23:50.16 | ulic | *an |
23:50.21 | sylvanaar | its disabled when you click "sent to chat" |
23:50.59 | ckknight | hey all |
23:51.02 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
23:51.11 | ulic | good, how's your day going? |
23:51.37 | ckknight | meh |