| 00:01.08 | Chaotic_D | "Anchors are of type FRAMEPOINT" what the hell does that mean? that they're just points on a frame, or do they inherently serve some other purpose not mentioned? |
| 00:01.59 | Chaotic_D | it must not have any purpose that's not mentioned there. I'm probably just reading into the name differently and piling on my own word associations. :S |
| 00:02.06 | Nandini | did you finish reading that it's an enumeration? |
| 00:02.43 | Chaotic_D | it says it HAS an enumeration, not that it is an enumeration. |
| 00:03.07 | Chaotic_D | and I don't even know what the word means. I can guess. |
| 00:04.18 | Chaotic_D | I looked it up. sure. sounds about right. |
| 00:04.47 | Pkekyo | rofl, some guy on wow-eu addons forum is saying Squeenix (minimap addon) just caused his comp to get a BSoD O.o |
| 00:05.54 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/acffdd893fdb6468e5d08eb3be8e3fb4.jpg |
| 00:07.43 | sb | Industrial: hmm? |
| 00:08.16 | Cryect | I wish there was some rhyme or reason to these offsets |
| 00:08.30 | Industrial | sb: my current interface |
| 00:08.42 | sb | ah - thought there is something special on that pic :o |
| 00:09.14 | Industrial | ouch! lol :) |
| 00:09.33 | sb | hmm |
| 00:09.47 | sb | Cryect: could it be record or gpslib that causes cartographer to zoom out to continent display? |
| 00:09.50 | sb | from zone display |
| 00:09.58 | sb | (after ~1s) |
| 00:10.58 | Cryect | GPSLib prolly |
| 00:11.34 | Nandini | i don't have that issue |
| 00:11.34 | Cryect | I need to save the settings |
| 00:11.46 | Cryect | would be this |
| 00:11.47 | Cryect | SetMapToCurrentZone() |
| 00:11.47 | Cryect | local continent=GetCurrentMapContinent(); |
| 00:11.47 | Cryect | SetMapZoom(continent) |
| 00:11.49 | Cryect | :-p |
| 00:12.14 | Mikk | seems likely yeah :P |
| 00:12.27 | Cryect | I need to save the old settings to restore them |
| 00:16.30 | Chaotic_D | I may be burnt out but shouldn't the text "$parent, will automatically replace the keyword with the name of the parent which inherited the template." say the parent template it is inherited from or something? |
| 00:20.35 | Mikk | no |
| 00:20.51 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46875 10GPSLib/GPS-1.0/GPS-1.0.lua: GPSLib - Saves and restores map settings when it changes them now |
| 00:23.00 | Chaotic_D | I know templates/parents can inherit from other templates/parents, but that's not what they're getting at, so why did they word it so that it suggests the parent is inheriting something from the child? |
| 00:26.11 | Gnarfoz | http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07253/pigeon2.gif |
| 00:27.28 | Pkekyo | lmao Gnarfoz |
| 00:28.43 | Nandini | you use $parent in a child node, in the child it is replaced with the name of the parent which inherited the template, just like it says |
| 00:28.46 | Chaotic_D | guh. too many details. I don't know how people can cram all this info in their heads. |
| 00:29.21 | Chaotic_D | hrm. the example they use, it's replaced with the name of the child, not the parent. :> |
| 00:29.54 | Chaotic_D | so mixed up. |
| 00:30.16 | Chaotic_D | http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface#Using_Templates |
| 00:30.47 | Nandini | just as a tip (which helped me), spend a week learning, then come back and ask questions, your questions will be much more specific and people will be much more receptive to helping find answers to them |
| 00:32.59 | Chaotic_D | I'm just saying, if as you say, it inherits the name of the parent, then that example is wrong, even if the description is correct. |
| 00:33.52 | Nandini | and in the example they use, $parent IS being used in a child node and is inheriting the name attribute of the parent node above it, the parent which inherited the template |
| 00:34.10 | Chaotic_D | <Button name="MyAddonSpecialButton"> ends up with <ButtonText name="MyAddonSpecialButtonText"/> |
| 00:34.49 | Chaotic_D | if it's inheriting the name from the parent, the parent's name is not MyAddonSpecialButton. |
| 00:36.04 | Nandini | the example and wording are correct, you are misinterpreting them |
| 00:36.05 | Chaotic_D | the parent's name is "MyAddonButtonTemplate" (uh... I guess Template is removed from the name?) |
| 00:37.33 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46876 10Record/Record.lua: Record - In theory, Record might display other player positions |
| 00:37.35 | Chaotic_D | I disagree. |
| 00:38.38 | Nandini | the parent's name is MyAddonSpecialButton, which inherits from MyAddonButtonTemplate2 which inherits from MyAddonButtonTemplate1, using the $parent keyword in any child node in the template replaces it with the name of the parent that inherits the template |
| 00:38.57 | Chaotic_D | Is "MyAddonButtonTemplate" not the parent that is inherited by (like it says) <Button name="MyAddonSpecialButton" inherits="MyAddonButtonTemplate"> ? |
| 00:39.17 | Nandini | no, the template is not the parent of what inherits the template |
| 00:39.18 | Nargiddley | parent ~= template |
| 00:40.35 | Nargiddley | a frame inherits from a template, the template has child elements that the frame inherits, those child elements now have a parent of the frame you're creating and inherit its name |
| 00:40.59 | Nandini | (not the template's name the parent is based on) |
| 00:41.10 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 00:41.54 | Chaotic_D | oh. I wish they had explained what parent and child meant here. :( |
| 00:42.54 | Nandini | parent and child nodes are XML concepts, you should have a solid understanding of XML before trying to deal with blizzard's frame xml schema |
| 00:42.56 | Chaotic_D | well, thanks for clearing that up. |
| 00:44.25 | Nandini | i should say parent and child elements, not nodes |
| 00:44.29 | Chaotic_D | well you told me to start with reading everything on that page. :> |
| 00:44.53 | Nandini | yes, and everything it links to, at the top of that page is a link to an introduction at xmlfiles.com :) |
| 00:45.42 | Nandini | "Note that this assumes familiarity with XML; for a quick introduction, see this XML Introduction at xmlfiles.com" |
| 00:45.42 | Chaotic_D | gah. |
| 00:45.42 | Cryect | alright so that version won't show other players because I left out an important line :-p |
| 00:45.57 | Nandini | no biggie, i solo all my instances anyway :D |
| 00:46.31 | Nandini | but record will still be handy for me in those ULTRA RARE situations where maybe i lag a bit and wipe whilst soloing :) |
| 00:47.32 | Pkekyo | it's imfuckingpossible to get any sleep 'round here >.< |
| 00:47.54 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: happens all the time ^^ |
| 00:47.59 | Chaotic_D | information overload! I must attempt to asses what is superfluous information and filter it out! yeah, so I'm jumping ahead. :S |
| 00:48.50 | CAL|SMELTN | anyone fixed FuBar Arena_Fu yet? |
| 00:49.21 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46877 10Record/Record.lua: Record - Now actually shows other players! |
| 00:49.42 | Gnarfoz | you do it! |
| 00:49.43 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 00:52.23 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if I'll ever love coding itself, rather than as a means to an end... :S it's so hard to motivate myself to submerge myself so deep in code I lose track of the objective. |
| 00:53.12 | Cryect | hehe well its better if you love coding in itself |
| 00:53.53 | Nandini | if you don't love coding, in wow there are usually faster means to an end by just doing something the way everyone else does without your "killer addon" |
| 00:53.57 | Cryect | really helps out for algorithm optimization |
| 00:54.13 | Chaotic_D | yeah. I'm a joyless person. |
| 00:55.17 | Nandini | yeah the more good examples i see, the more i learn to think like the Lua interpreter thinks |
| 00:55.48 | Chaotic_D | meh. I figure I'm smart enough and with enough technical propensity that it's easier if I just do it myself. but I guess my technical interest has it's limits. :S |
| 00:56.25 | Nandini | i was so scared of giant nested if statements, but i've come to accept that that's just how LUA has chosen to do things |
| 00:56.41 | Chaotic_D | I don't know if any better than all the other lazy add-on-writer-wannabes who want the results without doing the work. |
| 00:56.49 | Nandini | and deeply nested loops that i would try to avoid like hell in other environments |
| 00:57.25 | Chaotic_D | *"if I'm any better" |
| 00:58.23 | Nandini | the thing is, assuming you are writing an addon to recommend users accept or not accept certain requests, would it not just be faster for you to look up the quest name on an alphabetized list of quests you've printed off and highlighted? |
| 00:59.18 | Nandini | i'm guessing that would be much faster for you than writing an addon which highlights recommended quests in-game |
| 00:59.42 | Chaotic_D | meh. it's for speed-leveling. I'm kinda slow, so it definately would throw me off to have to do it that way. I don't know. :S |
| 00:59.43 | Wobin | Nandini: Why do you need giant nested ifs? =) |
| 01:00.08 | Nandini | i don't, i just see them in a lot of Lua code |
| 01:00.18 | Nandini | and upon further inspection, i can't think of a way to simplify them |
| 01:00.31 | Wobin | can you give an example? |
| 01:00.46 | Nandini | not off the top of my head, i will make a note next time i see one that's interesting tho |
| 01:00.51 | Wobin | kk |
| 01:01.03 | Wobin | Cause you can use tables to simulate a select statement |
| 01:01.04 | Nandini | i haven't written a lot of code, i'm just tyring to learn by example |
| 01:01.37 | TNSe | Gagorian, you herE? |
| 01:01.58 | Chaotic_D | I did enjoy coding a clock though. with graphics done in DOS. in a crazy font. |
| 01:02.12 | Nandini | Wobin: tables with anonymous functions in them as values? |
| 01:02.42 | Wobin | yeah |
| 01:02.58 | Wobin | it can neaten things up somewhat |
| 01:03.03 | Nandini | yeah i thought that was nifty that functions are first-level variables in Lua so you can do cool things like that |
| 01:03.08 | Chaotic_D | maybe when I get my head straightened out I'll have a higher stamina for massive amounts of information, and I can actually do coding. :S |
| 01:04.57 | Chaotic_D | man, XML is so simple. do I really have to read all this? I have a feeling clarifying what parents/children were is about the hardest part. (although I didn't know about elements/attributes either) |
| 01:05.20 | Chaotic_D | I could probably summarize this is a single short paragraph. -_-; |
| 01:05.54 | Nandini | yeah that guy in that tutorial recommends never using attributes, which is stupid, because they actually ARE good and necessary for a number of things |
| 01:06.27 | Chaotic_D | mm... he just shouldn't have phrased it that way. |
| 01:06.52 | Nandini | that tutorial is several years old now and is probably not the best introduction to XML anymore. heheh |
| 01:07.17 | Chaotic_D | hooray! :D |
| 01:08.05 | Nandini | for me, the best way to learn is to find an addon that does at least PART of what i'm interested in doing, read through its code, and document each relevant line myself if the author hasn't already |
| 01:08.34 | Gagorian | TNSe: Yes somewhat |
| 01:08.44 | Chaotic_D | huh... documenting someone else's code. I hadn't thought of that. |
| 01:08.47 | Nandini | it tends to stick in my head better if i actually write something out |
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| 01:09.44 | Nandini | everyone has different learning styles, but in the addon community, you're not likely to find tutorials that will hold your hand start to finish on exactly the type of thing you want to do |
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| 01:10.04 | Chaotic_D | yeah. that sucks. I love having my hand held. :> |
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| 01:10.47 | Chaotic_D | I wish I was smart and competant enough to learn this stuff, so I could write tutorials for people who need to have their hands held through the thing. |
| 01:11.00 | Nandini | it took me a week to write my first addon, and it only ended up being about 6 lines of important code |
| 01:11.03 | Cryect | I'm really surprised there isn't a tutorial site |
| 01:11.24 | Cryect | I mean there is tutorial sites for modding other much smaller games |
| 01:11.35 | TNSe | Gagorian, the fixes seem to display things correctly now, however, on warriors there seems to be an issue with white damage and impale. |
| 01:11.52 | Nandini | i started writing an "ace2 developers reference addon" with ridiculously detailed documentation, but i'm afraid it won't be finished before a new generation of Ace is out there |
| 01:12.29 | Chaotic_D | well, even when there are tons of tutorials available, it's just not often a common style to lead people through absolutely everything and allow them to see everything ahead of time and give them the opportunity to identify what they already know and what they don't so that they can skip around however they like. |
| 01:12.30 | Nandini | but when that happens, i'll be able to reuse the basic parts describing Lua and WoW API concepts |
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| 01:13.09 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46878 10Recount/Recount_Modes.lua: Recount - Adds a DPS mode to the main window |
| 01:13.33 | Nandini | about half my time at work is spent testing and documenting my code and others' code, so that has become an important part of how i learn, personally |
| 01:14.32 | Gagorian | TNSe: Hmm, aye. I'll fix it up later |
| 01:14.35 | Chaotic_D | I just want an overview of how things work. just whatever components the add-ons interact with, what components of the add-ons there are, and how. |
| 01:14.50 | Nandini | most of that you can get from the wowwiki site |
| 01:14.52 | TNSe | should be simple to fix |
| 01:15.03 | TNSe | white attacks are unmodified by impale |
| 01:15.15 | Gagorian | Everything except Attack? |
| 01:15.31 | Chaotic_D | I mean I'll probably have a good enough sense of that soon enough. nah, there's nothing quite so overarching on wowwiki. |
| 01:15.54 | TNSe | all yellow attacks are affected by impale |
| 01:15.59 | TNSe | white attacks are not modified |
| 01:20.22 | CIA-14 | 03gagorian * r46879 10DrDamage/ (Data/Warrior.lua Melee.lua): |
| 01:20.22 | CIA-14 | DrDamage: |
| 01:20.22 | CIA-14 | - Should prevent Impale from applying to white melee. Drycoded. |
| 01:20.55 | Chaotic_D | I think I need a break. I've been at this for hours. |
| 01:21.14 | TNSe | anyway |
| 01:21.20 | TNSe | nice to see you started to add melee to it as well |
| 01:22.04 | TNSe | started to think about implementing level differences for melee tho? :P |
| 01:23.30 | TNSe | I think the going rate (commonly accepted) of instant attacks is +1.2% hit needed pr lvl (8.6% for lvl 73) |
| 01:24.02 | Gagorian | It shoould have that |
| 01:24.13 | Gagorian | s/shoould/should/ |
| 01:24.25 | Gagorian | It's just set to update per target level |
| 01:25.10 | TNSe | okay |
| 01:25.43 | Gagorian | I've been a bit busy lately so I've only done small work on it. |
| 01:26.04 | TNSe | okay :) |
| 01:26.39 | TNSe | its nice to have it ingame so I don't have to keep on doing the math myself over and over again :P |
| 01:26.59 | Gagorian | Yeah, it started as a tool for myself initially |
| 01:27.06 | Gagorian | basically just printed out a bit in the console |
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| 01:28.11 | Gagorian | Slowly made it easier for me and just decided to share it and.. then got bombarded with suggestions and requests. |
| 01:28.24 | Silowyi | Did someone mention my name? |
| 01:28.35 | Silowyi | oh... "Slowly" not "Silowyi" |
| 01:28.51 | Silowyi | A'lar to 50% in phase 2 on our 5th attempt at him ever. He meteored himself into a wall, evade bugged, and reset :P |
| 01:29.10 | TNSe | Silowyi, happened to us as well |
| 01:29.12 | TNSe | several times |
| 01:29.18 | TNSe | trick is to NOT kill adds when he's meteoring :P |
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| 01:29.33 | Silowyi | ah good point |
| 01:29.34 | Cryect | he meteors on top of someone |
| 01:29.41 | Cryect | so don't have people on the wall :-p |
| 01:29.51 | TNSe | yeah |
| 01:29.59 | TNSe | last kill, 10s from enrage :P |
| 01:30.53 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46880 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Adds resurrection tracking |
| 01:31.59 | TNSe | Gagorian, its a great tool, and as accurate as we think it is >_< |
| 01:33.00 | TNSe | even tho I've done raids with 97% on my spriest for like weeks |
| 01:33.02 | Gagorian | It's as accurate as the people giving feedback. I only play a warlock so the rest is my best guesses and based on some feedback :p |
| 01:33.07 | TNSe | and still have <1% resists |
| 01:33.37 | Chaotic_D | I have a feeling it would be easier to make an addon that has a separate window of steps to take, and then checks your questlog to see what step you're at. :S |
| 01:33.43 | TNSe | (according to wws) |
| 01:34.07 | Silowyi | TNSe: I actually made an addon for hit rate data collection |
| 01:34.12 | Chaotic_D | no no, I'm taking a break! *runs away from PC* (sure I do...) |
| 01:34.50 | TNSe | Silowyi, I'm spriest with 5/5 shadow focus and 66 hit rating |
| 01:34.58 | TNSe | and I'm having <1% resists |
| 01:35.04 | TNSe | against bosses, last 2 months |
| 01:35.20 | Silowyi | spell miss != resist |
| 01:36.03 | Silowyi | however +hit does seem to affect resists. At least on my mage |
| 01:36.54 | TNSe | I have about 4.5% partial resists |
| 01:37.04 | TNSe | 0.94% full resists |
| 01:37.15 | TNSe | with 66 hit rating |
| 01:37.29 | Silowyi | I'm not entirely sure how spell hit affects resists |
| 01:37.37 | Cryect | if a spell is binary |
| 01:37.38 | Silowyi | but you can outright miss with spells |
| 01:37.42 | Cryect | spell hit can effect it |
| 01:37.47 | Silowyi | happens on my mage from time to time |
| 01:37.55 | Cryect | Well a spell resist parses as a resist |
| 01:37.59 | Cryect | I mean a spell miss |
| 01:38.14 | Cryect | but you can also have a resist on binary spells that also parses as a resist |
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| 01:39.39 | Silowyi | I'll have to check the data on my mage, I'm fairly certain I've parsed actual "misses" |
| 01:39.48 | TNSe | yeah, but the 'commonly accepted' is that you need 76 spell hit |
| 01:40.26 | Cryect | Are you including the parsing of nonbosses TNSe? |
| 01:40.30 | TNSe | no |
| 01:40.32 | Silowyi | for same level mobs? |
| 01:40.43 | Silowyi | I thought it was 17% for bosses |
| 01:40.44 | TNSe | this is parses of gruul mostly |
| 01:41.43 | TNSe | and gruul alone, and uh, void reaver, wipes from al'ar p1 |
| 01:42.12 | Ironhand | was the Justify module removed from Prat recently? |
| 01:42.56 | TNSe | might be too small sample size |
| 01:43.06 | TNSe | but 66 spell hit has done very well for me |
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| 01:54.37 | Diao | hm |
| 01:54.39 | Diao | who writes grid? |
| 01:57.01 | Industrial | open up the toc |
| 01:57.07 | Industrial | ## Author: |
| 01:57.16 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 01:57.24 | Funkeh` | thats pretty cool, I wonder who thought of that |
| 01:57.34 | Industrial | its not an official toc entry |
| 01:57.54 | Industrial | (but neither are all the X- ones anyway) |
| 01:58.26 | Funkeh` | We just make up stuff as we go along |
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| 02:13.03 | Gnarfoz | a way to see which addons are new (on files. or the SVN) would be nice |
| 02:13.08 | Gnarfoz | just came to me ^^ |
| 02:13.34 | Nandini | new since when? |
| 02:14.29 | Gnarfoz | good point :\ |
| 02:14.31 | ulic | since cookie timestamp |
| 02:14.41 | ulic | best you could do without auth probably |
| 02:14.47 | Gnarfoz | I didn't mean updated, I just meant 'new' |
| 02:14.51 | ulic | oh |
| 02:15.25 | Nandini | would an addon be considered new at the point its folder is first created? |
| 02:15.29 | Gnarfoz | yea |
| 02:15.52 | ulic | yea, new zip, ie new in trunk, I'd think. |
| 02:16.14 | Gnarfoz | I guess I'll just sort by rev/date and see which ones I haven't heard of :> |
| 02:16.35 | sylvanaar | rev is interchangeable with date yeah |
| 02:17.09 | Nandini | is there a create timestamp on the main svn folders that is preserved through new checkins? |
| 02:17.25 | Gnarfoz | I'd guess so, they exist in the normal filesystem |
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| 02:17.45 | sylvanaar | just look for the lowest numbered zip |
| 02:18.17 | sylvanaar | no need to use dates at all |
| 02:19.26 | Nandini | since i don't use the svn directly, i've never bothered checking how long/how many revisions are kept |
| 02:19.42 | Nandini | are they all kept forever and ever? |
| 02:20.00 | Shirik | SVN never gets rid of versions |
| 02:20.01 | Shirik | it's impossible |
| 02:20.10 | Gnarfoz | and kind of the entire point of having something like svn |
| 02:20.11 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 02:20.15 | Shirik | even if someone wanted to, they can't permanently delete a file |
| 02:20.22 | Shirik | by the very nature of how things are stored |
| 02:20.29 | Nandini | i just wondered if they'd become archived or something |
| 02:20.44 | Shirik | it would be impossible |
| 02:20.50 | Shirik | every version relies on its predecessor |
| 02:21.36 | Shirik | take out one piece of the puzzle and it no longer fits |
| 02:21.36 | sylvanaar | there are zips on files.w.c which start at the first commit |
| 02:23.42 | Nandini | it seems to me that some other repositories are able to set new baselines and archive previous versions |
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| 02:24.42 | Nandini | i just didn't know if svn did that or not |
| 02:25.06 | Nandini | since it doesn't, looking at the oldest zip IS an easy way to see if something is new |
| 02:27.32 | ulic | I think it's possible to do two quick commits, and it will only roll a zip for the lastest one, no? |
| 02:28.08 | Cryect | right |
| 02:29.35 | Cryect | but the batch process that creates the zips isn't svn |
| 02:29.42 | ulic | right |
| 02:30.46 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't matter for determining the oldest version, though, that's not a problem in the order of magnitud of <20 minutes |
| 02:32.00 | Silowyi | well |
| 02:32.30 | Silowyi | after Onyxia, Gruul, Loot Reaver, and A'lar attempts + a full run of Karazhan... I've determined two things |
| 02:34.25 | Silowyi | nvm my math was wrong, fudge |
| 02:36.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ...updater index cache down again? |
| 02:36.59 | Funkeh` | no, just slow |
| 02:37.34 | sag_ich_nicht | ...slow enough to not work, apparently. |
| 02:40.02 | Gnarfoz | everything slow enough to not work, for me... svn & files |
| 02:40.59 | sag_ich_nicht | trac is also too slow to work |
| 02:41.42 | Gnarfoz | depending on time zones, it might be late enough for some cronjob to be the culprit ^^ |
| 02:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
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| 02:48.34 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 02:48.34 | sag_ich_nicht | http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/2759/ |
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| 02:54.00 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 02:54.04 | Funkeh` | should be a little faster now |
| 02:56.04 | sag_ich_nicht | fast enough for WAU to work again :O |
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| 03:05.16 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46881 10Relog/ (Relog.lua units.lua): Relog - Additional memory leaks fixed |
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| 03:19.13 | CIA-14 | 03gnarfoz * r46882 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.lua: |
| 03:19.13 | CIA-14 | BossWhisperer: |
| 03:19.14 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.14 | CIA-14 | - deDE's got the "you'll be notified after combat ends" line now, too. |
| 03:20.11 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 03:20.20 | Gnarfoz | what! |
| 03:20.37 | Funkeh` | nothing :) |
| 03:20.40 | WillJitsu | is !!!StandaloneLibraries not used anymore? I keep getting an error when trying to update it |
| 03:21.20 | Sole | its been obsolete for a long time now |
| 03:21.29 | Gnarfoz | WillJitsu: both WAU and WAU2 have got different methods of determining necessary libraries now, so I'd guess it's not needed anymore |
| 03:21.31 | Funkeh` | Not it has not |
| 03:21.33 | Funkeh` | stop saying that |
| 03:21.34 | WillJitsu | has something replaced it or do I need to turn on Externals now? |
| 03:21.42 | Funkeh` | It is not obselete |
| 03:21.51 | Funkeh` | What error are you getting? |
| 03:22.06 | WillJitsu | !!!StandaloneLibraries - Error During Update |
| 03:22.20 | WillJitsu | WowAceUpdater 1.9.42.491 |
| 03:22.23 | Mikk | Heh, how helpful |
| 03:22.29 | Funkeh` | thats an old WAU |
| 03:22.37 | Mikk | But yeah if you're using WAU, you don't need standalonelibs anymore |
| 03:22.37 | Sole | Im not using and Ive got standalone libraries, obsolete enough for me :P |
| 03:22.38 | Funkeh` | Mikk <3 |
| 03:23.08 | WillJitsu | so it'll grab the necessary libraries automatically and I still have it set for No Externals? |
| 03:23.19 | Funkeh` | No |
| 03:23.24 | Funkeh` | Your version of WAU is way too old |
| 03:23.36 | WillJitsu | did they disable the notification for new versions? |
| 03:23.41 | WillJitsu | I've updated everytime it notified me |
| 03:23.58 | Funkeh` | No, they changed to a different disstribution format, it auto updates now |
| 03:24.37 | WillJitsu | ah ok |
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| 03:25.08 | Funkeh` | Can't rememebr the link now |
| 03:25.11 | Gnarfoz | it does? oO |
| 03:25.16 | Gnarfoz | 1.9 sure doesn't :> |
| 03:25.21 | Funkeh` | Yes it does |
| 03:25.50 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 03:25.51 | Gnarfoz | it just says 'newer version, want me to open a browser window to go to sf.net to get it?' |
| 03:25.55 | Gnarfoz | that's 2.0 -.- |
| 03:25.59 | Funkeh` | If you use firefox you will need a plugin |
| 03:26.02 | Funkeh` | no its not |
| 03:26.14 | Gnarfoz | ... so I'm out of date, too? oO :D |
| 03:26.22 | Gnarfoz | seems like it -.- |
| 03:26.22 | Funkeh` | Read the website |
| 03:26.26 | Gnarfoz | just did -.- |
| 03:26.36 | Gnarfoz | I like non-backwards compatible update s:D |
| 03:27.16 | WillJitsu | well I'm having trouble installing it for some reason |
| 03:27.28 | Funkeh` | If you use firefox as your browser you will need a plugin |
| 03:27.30 | Funkeh` | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1608 |
| 03:27.53 | Funkeh` | then when you click install click run clickonce application |
| 03:28.23 | WillJitsu | nice that worked |
| 03:28.23 | WillJitsu | thanks |
| 03:28.23 | Gnarfoz | I seriously dislike how this way I can't choose where it installs it and if and where it creates a start menu shortcut -.- |
| 03:28.41 | Funkeh` | You can delete your old WAU stuff |
| 03:28.53 | Gnarfoz | I hope it doesn't re-create the start menu link each time there's an update :> |
| 03:29.08 | Funkeh` | no |
| 03:30.07 | Gnarfoz | also, actually, where *did* it install now oO |
| 03:30.30 | WillJitsu | so if I have Automatic Dependency Download checked, does it place the libraries in their own directory under Addons like downloading !!!StandAloneLibraries does? |
| 03:30.39 | Funkeh` | yep |
| 03:30.43 | WillJitsu | cool |
| 03:30.55 | Gnarfoz | your old version was capable of that, too, anyway |
| 03:31.02 | Gnarfoz | but we were indeed both not up to date anymore :> |
| 03:32.25 | Funkeh` | the fuck |
| 03:32.37 | Funkeh` | enUS patch was 54MB and enGB one was 72MB |
| 03:32.48 | Gnarfoz | what did you expect? |
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| 03:33.04 | Gnarfoz | eu patches contain all languages now, you can switch from the launcher |
| 03:33.22 | Funkeh` | I don't expect anything considering both locales are exact same to the point the enGB one doesn't obey the british dictionary |
| 03:33.54 | Gnarfoz | I know, but it's not because of enGB that it's bigger, it's because of esES, deDE and frFR ^^ |
| 03:34.07 | Funkeh` | You sure? |
| 03:34.12 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 03:34.20 | Gnarfoz | but from the guys I know who are using the ELP |
| 03:34.26 | Gnarfoz | they say they can switch languages in the launcher |
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| 03:34.47 | Funkeh` | I fail to see why it would say WoW-2.1.3-to-2.2.0-[[[enGB]]]-Win-patch really |
| 03:34.48 | Gnarfoz | so I'd guess all EU clients carry all that stuff now |
| 03:34.59 | Gnarfoz | text in the installer setup windows ;D |
| 03:35.04 | Gnarfoz | *err updater windows |
| 03:35.21 | Gnarfoz | just theorizing here, really ;> |
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| 03:35.48 | Funkeh` | oh well |
| 03:36.56 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: where *does* the current WAU get installed to? |
| 03:38.50 | Funkeh` | %username%\Local Settings\Apps afaik |
| 03:39.19 | Funkeh` | its in the add/remove list though |
| 03:39.28 | Gnarfoz | great, wrong drive, again :\ |
| 03:39.49 | Gnarfoz | (had a look in there and only found a 2.0 folder, thought that was the java one) |
| 03:40.42 | Gnarfoz | %username%\Local Settings\Apps\2.0\1O53HV8A.RV3\G5VWJZ8N.KRT\wowa..ater_18a0f2cbd0181fc0_0001.0009_none_60ede4c42e1bfb09 |
| 03:40.47 | Gnarfoz | easy enough to find ^^ |
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| 03:42.33 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:43.33 | sag_ich_nicht | hi there ckknight |
| 03:44.00 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r46883 10NDragIt/NDragIt.lua: NDragIt: add SendMailFrame as childFrame |
| 03:44.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:34] <Gnarfoz> so I'd guess all EU clients carry all that stuff now <--correct. |
| 03:44.19 | sag_ich_nicht | except not |
| 03:44.24 | sag_ich_nicht | the patch carries all the data |
| 03:44.27 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 03:44.38 | Gnarfoz | can't play without patching, right? |
| 03:44.38 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 03:44.52 | ckknight | any new developments? |
| 03:45.48 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 03:45.56 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 03:46.21 | sag_ich_nicht | except the site was slowed down to unusableness for a brief moment earlier again |
| 03:47.02 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:47.08 | ckknight | that's not the most important thing |
| 03:47.12 | ckknight | I was gone all day |
| 03:47.18 | ckknight | doing charity construction work |
| 03:49.22 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
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| 03:52.05 | Speeddymon | if an addon is not being maintained anymore (such as the ones by tekkub), and I find a bug, and fix it, is it acceptable for me to go ahead and upload the fix? |
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| 03:53.09 | Funkeh` | If its actually a bugfix yes, don't go adding some feature people probably don't want |
| 03:53.17 | Speeddymon | ok. great |
| 03:53.19 | Funkeh` | what bug are you fixing |
| 03:53.35 | Speeddymon | MailFu's lack of giving new mail notifications when new mail is received while already in game |
| 03:53.41 | Speeddymon | just a change to the toc |
| 03:54.10 | Speeddymon | the feature was there but a change in a blizz patch broke it for standalone libs |
| 03:54.26 | Funkeh` | right |
| 03:54.32 | CIA-14 | 03speeddymon * r46884 10FuBar_MailFu/FuBar_MailFu.toc: |
| 03:54.32 | CIA-14 | FuBar_MailFu: |
| 03:54.32 | CIA-14 | - Change SpecialEventsEmbed in the toc to SpecialEvents-Mail-2.0 so that new mail notifications will start working again |
| 03:55.11 | Gnarfoz | didn't experience that, personally - rather Postal seems to make wow think there's new mail when there's not :\ |
| 03:55.38 | Speeddymon | lol |
| 03:55.53 | Gnarfoz | also, SpecialEventsEmbed is still what SpecialEventsEmbed is called |
| 03:56.26 | Gnarfoz | I guess that will break exactly what you fixed, for me |
| 03:56.59 | Speeddymon | I know it is, but since MailFu doesn't load all of SpecialEventsEmbed, it should break it for non standalone libs |
| 03:57.03 | Speeddymon | should NOT |
| 03:57.34 | Speeddymon | if you look in your libs directory, the subfolder is SpecialEvents-Mail-2.0 there as well.. |
| 03:57.58 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 03:57.59 | Speeddymon | since you are not using standalone, would you mind double checking for me, please? |
| 03:58.08 | Gnarfoz | I AM using standalone |
| 03:58.09 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i'll install mailfu right now because of this fix |
| 03:58.14 | Speeddymon | ok |
| 03:58.17 | Gnarfoz | and what I'm saying is: |
| 03:58.19 | Speeddymon | I am using standalone as well |
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| 03:58.22 | Speeddymon | and that fixes it |
| 03:58.25 | Speeddymon | for me.. |
| 03:58.26 | Gnarfoz | I haven't got an addon called SpecialEvents-Mail-.20 |
| 03:58.32 | Speeddymon | I do.. |
| 03:58.41 | Gnarfoz | yes, you let your updater unpack addons for you ;) |
| 03:58.58 | Speeddymon | oh.. ur using leavemealone.. |
| 03:59.02 | Speeddymon | basically.. |
| 03:59.04 | Speeddymon | got ya |
| 03:59.36 | Gnarfoz | doesn't unpacking still leave a blank folder for the full lib? |
| 03:59.47 | Speeddymon | hmm.. ill revert it if its broken for you and use LoadAddon if that will work better.. |
| 04:00.10 | Gnarfoz | that'd be nice, if it can be done another way |
| 04:00.12 | Funkeh` | it shouldn't matter since AceLibrary should load SEEM |
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| 04:00.15 | Speeddymon | or I can just remove the load on demand part of SpecialEventsEmbed ;-) |
| 04:00.24 | Funkeh` | you shouldn't even need the optionaldep |
| 04:00.29 | Gnarfoz | I don't see the real problem anyway |
| 04:00.47 | Funkeh` | but just add both to the toc if its screwing up for some reason |
| 04:00.52 | Speeddymon | ok |
| 04:03.08 | CIA-14 | 03speeddymon * r46885 10FuBar_MailFu/FuBar_MailFu.toc: |
| 04:03.08 | CIA-14 | FuBar_MailFu: |
| 04:03.08 | CIA-14 | - Re-add SpecialEventsEmbed to the toc, alongside SpecialEvents-Mail-2.0 so that people with non-unpacked standalone can have this working right too |
| 04:05.04 | Speeddymon | Gnarfoz: to answer the question about having a blank libs folder.. no |
| 04:05.24 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 04:05.41 | Gnarfoz | looks like a problem that could exist for several addons then, I guess? |
| 04:05.46 | sag_ich_nicht | okay trying to break it in a sec. Cidan |
| 04:05.46 | Speeddymon | possibly.. |
| 04:06.15 | Speeddymon | I think the problem is the fact that SEEM embeds its own libraries.. |
| 04:07.53 | sag_ich_nicht | er, wrong channel, lol |
| 04:08.07 | Speeddymon | heh |
| 04:08.36 | Speeddymon | well I just tested with both SEEm and SE-M-2.0 in the toc and it works fine here.. |
| 04:11.27 | Gnarfoz | all's fine then, I guess ^^ |
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| 04:12.48 | Diao | pastamancer around? |
| 04:16.59 | Jp^ | --*-- |
| 04:17.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight could you please add an option to bugsack so it plays the sound EACH time an error occurs, and not just the first time a new one pops up? |
| 04:17.30 | Yssaril | Diao: he is in the #wau channel |
| 04:18.44 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: hrm... it's not really my addon... |
| 04:19.25 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 04:19.26 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 04:19.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i was under the |
| 04:19.29 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 04:19.31 | sag_ich_nicht | kick me, please. |
| 04:19.40 | *** kick/#wowace [sag_ich_nicht!n=ckknight@cpe-76-88-184-201.hawaii.res.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 04:19.41 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85.127.115.188) |
| 04:19.43 | Mikk | no, ckknight really didn't write every single addon in the SVN. surprise :P |
| 04:19.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk not what i mean. |
| 04:20.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ...how do i contact rabbit, or does he just show up on IRC or use a different nick? >.> |
| 04:20.44 | Yssaril | Mikk: thanks for that link you sent thats a sweet lib (btw you know of anyway to get the server Date? (year/month/day) |
| 04:20.57 | Mikk | no, server date cannot be gotten |
| 04:20.58 | Mikk | sucks |
| 04:21.28 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: vhaarr |
| 04:21.28 | Yssaril | that sucks |
| 04:21.28 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: he's "vhaarr" on irc. but he's busy irl for ~2 weeks or so |
| 04:21.28 | sag_ich_nicht | hokay |
| 04:21.42 | sag_ich_nicht | not like it's really important, just makes finding the exact step to reproduce a bug a bit more annoying. |
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| 04:23.43 | Mikk | Nargiddley`: !!!! |
| 04:23.44 | Mikk | omg fix gems! =) |
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| 04:24.13 | Chaotic_D | I'm gonna study for the GED. Good Enough Diploma! |
| 04:24.44 | Chaotic_D | I actually tested as college level education way back in highschool. I'm not dumb, I'm just undisciplined. ;> |
| 04:25.08 | Chaotic_D | god, I really have to stop rambling on IRC. sorry. that was unrelated. |
| 04:25.57 | fireglow | quick question: how to keybind bartenders stancebar? |
| 04:26.16 | fireglow | its not there in the key bindings menu |
| 04:26.20 | fireglow | :S |
| 04:26.28 | fireglow | (gogo droods) |
| 04:26.32 | Mikk | take a piece of string, tie around key, tie around toe |
| 04:26.38 | fireglow | mmm |
| 04:26.42 | fireglow | i see :P |
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| 04:37.26 | Spikehead777 | Hey Everyone |
| 04:37.37 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r46886 10PerfectTargets/PerfectTargets.toc: PerfectTargets: fix the toc entrys so that the addon actually works, hopefully |
| 04:40.38 | Spikehead777 | Is this where I can get help on making/altering addons for WoW? |
| 04:41.03 | Mikk | to an extent yes :P |
| 04:41.10 | Spikehead777 | Oh, okay. |
| 04:41.41 | Spikehead777 | Looks like I'm in the right place then. |
| 04:42.06 | Spikehead777 | So anyways, do any of you guys know of the mod, ZomgBox? |
| 04:42.21 | Mikk | nop |
| 04:43.43 | Funkeh` | you guys still doing the refactor? |
| 04:43.44 | Spikehead777 | Well, it's an Ace2 mod that's very simple, it just places a small box frame in the background, I think it's still up on www.wowinterface.com, and I'm trying to make my own adjustments to it |
| 04:44.18 | Mikk | Funkeh`: yeah |
| 04:44.26 | Funkeh` | cool |
| 04:44.56 | Funkeh` | I look forward to its completion, I love your work :) |
| 04:46.00 | Mikk | not just mine tho :P |
| 04:46.26 | Chaotic_D | what the heck is this line? format(faction:sub(1,1), bracket) |
| 04:46.30 | Spikehead777 | I'm new to this channel, what's the refactor? |
| 04:46.43 | Mikk | just optimizing the ace libs |
| 04:46.45 | Chaotic_D | I looked up sub and format (although they're all marked string.sub and string.format) but I can't find mention of bracket. |
| 04:47.04 | Mikk | bracket is a variable |
| 04:47.13 | Chaotic_D | ... oh. >_<; |
| 04:47.23 | Chaotic_D | thanks. I'm so stupid. it was on the same page. |
| 04:47.50 | Spikehead777 | =/ Looks like you guys are already busy. If I'm disturbing you guys, I'll go if you want me to. |
| 04:47.58 | Mikk | nono |
| 04:48.02 | Mikk | we're always busy :P |
| 04:48.19 | Mikk | if not with coding, with talking bullshit :P |
| 04:48.27 | Spikehead777 | Oh, okay. |
| 04:48.52 | Spikehead777 | Sounds like the old game maker irc chat |
| 04:49.24 | Spikehead777 | Except always talking about something other than game maker |
| 04:49.28 | Yssaril | anyone can recommend something that can check my xml code for me? |
| 04:50.44 | Sole | I hear ctrl + a followed by Delete works pretty well on xml |
| 04:51.05 | kergoth | Spikehead777, if you have a question, ask it and wait patiently. people are always talking about all sort of things, dont read things into it that arent there |
| 04:51.16 | Yssaril | lol |
| 04:51.18 | Spikehead777 | Okay. |
| 04:51.22 | Chaotic_D | I heard IE won't load XML if it's not formatted correctly, so you could try that. |
| 04:52.26 | Sole | can anyone recommend a good free dvd ripper/video editor? need to get some clips off this dvd and compile them |
| 04:53.49 | Sole | its porn and you'll get to see it if you can help me chop it! |
| 04:54.07 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r46887 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/Core.lua: BigWigs_WaveTimers: - Tweaked sync code. |
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| 04:55.36 | Spikehead777 | Well, I don't know if it's good, but you might try the ones at www.softwareclub.ws. At least it's free. |
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| 04:57.03 | Speeddymon | i've never had problems with dvd shrink.. but it can only be found on the afterdawn forums |
| 04:57.22 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:52] <Sole> can anyone recommend a good free dvd ripper/video editor? need to get some clips off this dvd and compile them <--sure |
| 04:57.23 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 04:57.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and Spikehead777 what you linked there |
| 04:57.31 | sag_ich_nicht | is the devil |
| 04:57.38 | Speeddymon | yup |
| 04:57.47 | Spikehead777 | Huh? |
| 04:57.57 | Speeddymon | all of the warez .ws sites have spyware and popups and viruses.. |
| 04:58.20 | sag_ich_nicht | not a warez site |
| 04:58.25 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's still shit |
| 04:58.31 | Speeddymon | hmm |
| 04:58.32 | sag_ich_nicht | and FUCKING LOUD JESUS CHRIST |
| 04:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gordianknot/GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.2.exe?download |
| 04:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | GordianKnot, and you are done. |
| 04:58.44 | Speeddymon | thats a very good one... |
| 04:58.45 | Spikehead777 | The audio converter on that site works for me... |
| 04:59.04 | Sole | sag_ich_nicht: thanks |
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| 04:59.19 | Sole | always thought GoardianKnot were just a bunch of codecs |
| 04:59.27 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 04:59.30 | Spikehead777 | And I got that site off of the audio converter which I got somewhere else |
| 04:59.33 | sag_ich_nicht | there is GordianKnot Rippack |
| 04:59.37 | sag_ich_nicht | and the GordianKnot Codecpack |
| 04:59.40 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 04:59.49 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.doom9.org/ and click Guides for help |
| 05:00.23 | Spikehead777 | So my question was that I'm trying to update ZomgBox to be able to have multiple boxes on one screen, and for that, I think I need tables for the various variables I'll need (xposition, y, width, height, color, anchors...). I will send over the original files and my updated ones to anyone who requests it. |
| 05:01.47 | Speeddymon | spike, is the original author not maintaining the addon anymore? |
| 05:02.02 | Spikehead777 | Uhh...I don't think so. |
| 05:02.08 | Chaotic_D | this is strange. I can't find code in Lightheaded that does crazy stuff like tell you how far away a quest object is (NPC, item) with the arrow pointing in the right direction... :S |
| 05:02.21 | Speeddymon | you might try contacting him, see if he minds you uploading it here and takin over |
| 05:02.23 | clad|sleep | that's because Lightheaded doesn't do that |
| 05:02.24 | clad|sleep | TomTom does. |
| 05:02.33 | Speeddymon | if he doesnt or you dont get a response, apply for subversion access |
| 05:02.47 | Chaotic_D | ahhhhhh. thanks. :) I shoulda checked what it's dependancies were. :S |
| 05:02.54 | Chaotic_D | I mean... that was my next step. :> |
| 05:02.58 | clad|sleep | its not a dependency |
| 05:03.04 | Spikehead777 | Alright. If I do finish it, I'll see if I can |
| 05:03.12 | Speeddymon | just so you know.. that will make it easier for anyone to look at the source and point out bugs.. |
| 05:03.33 | Speeddymon | so the question now.. |
| 05:03.53 | Chaotic_D | but I don't have TomTom installed. how is it doing that? |
| 05:04.10 | clad|sleep | Chaotic_D: Cartographer_Waypoints |
| 05:04.31 | Speeddymon | spike.. what is your question? how to get the boxes on one line, or if you need tables? |
| 05:04.50 | Spikehead777 | Tables |
| 05:04.56 | Speeddymon | k |
| 05:05.00 | Chaotic_D | ok. I have that installed. still, how was Lightheaded doing that? it just happens to work if it's installed and doesn't work if it doesn't? :S |
| 05:05.06 | clad|sleep | Chaotic_D: LightHeaded just does quest comments, but it sends waypoints to TomTOm or Cart |
| 05:05.10 | clad|sleep | yes. |
| 05:05.28 | Silowyi | here's a question |
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| 05:05.53 | Speeddymon | lets see if i can describe this right.. |
| 05:06.00 | Spikehead777 | In the OnEnable function, there is an error that says "Message: ..\AddOns\SimpleBackground\Frames.lua line 156: |
| 05:06.00 | Spikehead777 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.18 | Silowyi | I use a lot of Ace2 addons and addons with Ace2 libraries... Should I delete the libs directories and just download copies of the libraries? |
| 05:06.29 | Silowyi | For exampled I think I have like 20 addons that use dewdrop |
| 05:06.35 | Silowyi | etc... |
| 05:06.36 | Funkeh` | Why? |
| 05:06.51 | Speeddymon | Spikehead777: get notepad++ (google it) and then find line 156 |
| 05:06.52 | Funkeh` | Yes but only 1 copy loads |
| 05:06.56 | Speeddymon | that line will be your problem |
| 05:07.29 | Speeddymon | most likely you didnt specify a valid width for SetWidth |
| 05:07.53 | Silowyi | Funkeh`: I've thought that, but frequently I don't update all of my addons at once, so there are lots of different versions of the libraries floating around, and I didn't know if WoW would load them if they weren't the same version |
| 05:07.55 | Spikehead777 | m:SetWidth(self.db.profile.width[i]) |
| 05:07.56 | Speeddymon | meaning that either you just did () or there is probably a typo inthe variable name, or you put a valid variable name, but forgot to set it.. |
| 05:08.07 | Speeddymon | k |
| 05:08.11 | Spikehead777 | "m" is the frame's name |
| 05:08.12 | Speeddymon | is m defined? |
| 05:08.13 | Speeddymon | ok |
| 05:08.23 | Funkeh` | Silowyi: the latest version is used and the others are discarded |
| 05:08.27 | Speeddymon | is m defined as a variable? |
| 05:08.30 | Speeddymon | something like: |
| 05:08.36 | Speeddymon | m = CreateFrame(...) |
| 05:08.38 | Spikehead777 | local m = CreateFrame("frame", nil, UIParent) |
| 05:08.43 | Speeddymon | hehe |
| 05:08.54 | Speeddymon | then yes it is the table |
| 05:08.58 | Spikehead777 | Okay. |
| 05:09.33 | Speeddymon | is i supposed to be the value of self.db.profile.width ? |
| 05:09.42 | Spikehead777 | In RegisterDefaults(...), this is what the width table is defined: width = { math.ceil(GetScreenWidth() + 800,0) }, |
| 05:09.44 | Mecdemort | is there a way to call a macro? |
| 05:09.52 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 05:10.09 | Spikehead777 | I believe, that generates a table with "math.ceil(GetScreenWidth() + 800,0)" in it. |
| 05:10.09 | Speeddymon | then you shouldnt need the [i] |
| 05:10.17 | Speeddymon | thats right |
| 05:10.31 | Speeddymon | so you should just do SetWidth(self.db.profile.width) |
| 05:10.38 | Speeddymon | well |
| 05:10.40 | Speeddymon | actually.. |
| 05:10.49 | Speeddymon | yea, try that first.. |
| 05:10.51 | Spikehead777 | The thing is, I am making multiple boxes, and I'm iterating creating frames on the OnEnable |
| 05:10.57 | Spikehead777 | Okay. |
| 05:10.57 | Speeddymon | oh ok |
| 05:11.24 | Speeddymon | it might help if i look at the code, but for now I'm just taking blind stabs hehe |
| 05:11.34 | Speeddymon | simply because i need to leave in a bit |
| 05:11.40 | Speeddymon | so i dont want to get too wrapped up in it |
| 05:11.46 | Spikehead777 | Oh, okay. |
| 05:12.31 | Mecdemort | ckknight, ping |
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| 05:12.34 | ckknight | pong |
| 05:12.52 | Mecdemort | how come if you disabled an addon, it's OnEnable() is still called after reload or log |
| 05:13.04 | ckknight | shouldn't be |
| 05:13.34 | Speeddymon | did you disable it for all characters? |
| 05:14.23 | Chaotic_D | can you make a string of waypoints in cartographer_waypoints? :> I'm still searching for how other addons are calling it though... |
| 05:14.27 | Mecdemort | im talking about disabling via the /addon standby command that's provided or in the menu |
| 05:15.10 | clad|sleep | Chaotic_D: what are you trying to do? |
| 05:15.32 | Speeddymon | oh.. well because the addon is loaded but "asleep".. |
| 05:16.01 | Spikehead777 | RegisterDefaults(...) sets the savedvariables that are saved for Ace2 addons, right? |
| 05:16.05 | Mecdemort | so if the addon is disabled by that method OnEnable() is called or no? |
| 05:16.17 | Speeddymon | yes |
| 05:16.24 | Mecdemort | ah, thats what i thought |
| 05:16.32 | Speeddymon | should be because the addon isnt truely disabled.. |
| 05:16.53 | Mecdemort | because theres some addons that display themselves when OnEnable is called, so even if they get disabled they keep popping up |
| 05:16.58 | Chaotic_D | I'm trying to at least get that neat arrow to appear. |
| 05:17.10 | Speeddymon | to disable an addon as far as wow is concerned, you need to use a function that some of addon managers, like Acp use.. and I dont know what that is.. |
| 05:17.20 | Speeddymon | Spikehead777: yes it does |
| 05:17.31 | Spikehead777 | Okay. |
| 05:17.56 | Mecdemort | so what's the purpose of the Enable command in the option menu |
| 05:19.14 | Chaotic_D | AHAH! I found mention of TomTom and Cartographer in Lightheaded! a clue! |
| 05:19.42 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 05:19.56 | sag_ich_nicht | well duh, it's probably an opt dep Chaotic_D -_- |
| 05:19.56 | Chaotic_D | I'm slow. -_-; |
| 05:20.22 | Chaotic_D | I didn't know they would mention the addon by name. I thought maybe they would just call the function right out. |
| 05:20.54 | Speeddymon | Mecdemort: that does the same thing as /addon standby, but in reverse.. |
| 05:21.06 | Speeddymon | if enable is checked, then the addon is not in standby |
| 05:21.15 | Speeddymon | if it is unchecked then it is in standby |
| 05:21.16 | clad|sleep | Chaotic_D: well, the "they" you're talking about is me. |
| 05:21.25 | clad|sleep | I wrote TomTom, and Lightheaded, and Wobin coded support for cart_waypoints. |
| 05:21.35 | Chaotic_D | :o |
| 05:21.40 | clad|sleep | if you want the crazy taxi arrow in the center of the screen, you want Cart_waypoints |
| 05:21.54 | clad|sleep | if you want minimap arrows, that's tomtom |
| 05:22.04 | Mecdemort | i know but if OnEnable is called when its in standby and you have to use another addon to actually disable it, doesnt that defeat the purpose? |
| 05:22.14 | Chaotic_D | good job. I especially like Lightheaded. I was pleased to see that it didn't require connecting to the WowHead website, and all the quests fit in like 10MB. |
| 05:22.34 | clad|sleep | ;P |
| 05:23.26 | Diao | hmm |
| 05:23.30 | Diao | what addon changes the combat log strings? |
| 05:23.43 | Diao | kind of like swstats fixlogstrings |
| 05:23.47 | Diao | but it's an ace addon :o |
| 05:24.14 | Silowyi | I like simple combat log |
| 05:24.17 | Diao | yeah |
| 05:24.18 | Diao | i use scl |
| 05:24.25 | Diao | but something is changing the default strings so my heal tracker isn't working right |
| 05:24.38 | Diao | it's tracking the names as name[space] |
| 05:24.39 | Diao | intsead of name |
| 05:24.41 | Spikehead777 | Okay, this is wierd... The debugger says that my line says "<unnamed>:SetWidth(width)", but in the file, I have "m:SetWidth(self.db.profile.width)". |
| 05:24.41 | Arrowmaster` | Mecdemort: does this addon that your talking about that keeps doing its OnEnable after a relog use acedb? |
| 05:25.12 | Mecdemort | Arrowmaster`: yes, but it doesnt check if it's disabled in OnEnabled.. which seems sensible |
| 05:25.15 | Chaotic_D | oh crap. how big is the WoW interface addon kit's art section? :S |
| 05:25.27 | clad|sleep | quite large |
| 05:25.54 | Arrowmaster | Mecdemort: which addon is it? |
| 05:26.02 | Mecdemort | eavesdrop |
| 05:26.12 | Chaotic_D | ~200MB. :S |
| 05:26.47 | Chaotic_D | is there a blp viewer that can view like a whole folder of blps at the same time, like jpg thumbnails? |
| 05:27.51 | Mecdemort | you're lucky to get a blp viewer at all |
| 05:28.03 | Chaotic_D | hahahah. |
| 05:28.22 | Spikehead777 | I think WoW doesn't like it when I work on an addon for it |
| 05:29.00 | Spikehead777 | Since it just now crashed. |
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| 05:31.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Spikehead777 that's from alt + tabbing |
| 05:32.02 | Mecdemort | windowed mode ftw |
| 05:32.12 | Spikehead777 | I do windowed mode |
| 05:32.16 | Arrowmaster | Mecdemort: edit the EavesDrop.lua and try commenting out the EavesDropFrame:Show(); in the OnEnable and see if it shows when you login with it in standby, i doubt it will though |
| 05:32.29 | Silowyi | IsAltKeyDown() seems to be spotty at best |
| 05:32.49 | Spikehead777 | WoW only goes up to 1024x768, and for some reason, my monitor doesn't like anything lower than 1280x1024... |
| 05:33.08 | Silowyi | maybe its my keyboard, but I doubt it... everything in WoW that uses the alt key seems sporatic for me |
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| 05:33.24 | Mecdemort | Arrowmaster: if I did that i dont think it would show at all |
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| 05:33.46 | Arrowmaster | no i think it would |
| 05:33.55 | Arrowmaster | atleast until you disable it and then enable it |
| 05:34.08 | Mecdemort | ya its the only place the frame is shown so if i enabled it it wouldnt show again |
| 05:34.10 | nurdc0re | hello, is this a good place to discuss issues with Omen? |
| 05:34.21 | Arrowmaster | the frame is defined in xml and isnt set to hidden when its created |
| 05:34.38 | sag_ich_nicht | nurdc0re the best place. |
| 05:34.47 | Arrowmaster | and damn grayhoofs code is fugly |
| 05:34.59 | sag_ich_nicht | go and pest Antiarc about omen breaking after zoning, go ahead! |
| 05:35.37 | Spikehead777 | I use Omen too, and I have no visible issues with it. |
| 05:35.39 | nurdc0re | I got the latest version of Omen and while solo'ing with my affliction lock it claims I get aggro over my voidwalker when I do not |
| 05:36.22 | Arrowmaster | Mecdemort: so when you login with it in standby i dont think the OnEnable is actually getting called, its just the frame is never hidden when its created |
| 05:36.31 | Mecdemort | oh |
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| 05:36.40 | Mecdemort | well ill have to check then |
| 05:36.51 | nurdc0re0 | whoa, sorry, just got a weird disconnect |
| 05:37.01 | Arrowmaster | and since grayhoof gets all his stuff on the svn locked nobody else can fix it |
| 05:37.13 | Mecdemort | so the way to fix it is to add a Hide in the xml file? |
| 05:37.35 | nurdc0re0 | so is there any better way to report than just, "hey, aggro seems screwy" |
| 05:37.47 | Spikehead777 | How does self.db.profile.width get translated into width? |
| 05:38.26 | Mecdemort | some form of frame:SetWidth(self.db.profile.width) i'd guess |
| 05:39.00 | Arrowmaster | Mecdemort: yeah i think just hidden="true" in the xml where EavesDropFrame is created |
| 05:39.05 | Spikehead777 | I think that that may be why tables aren't working the way I want. |
| 05:39.17 | Mecdemort | Arrowmaster: ok, thanks |
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| 05:58.45 | Silowyi | !ar 428 |
| 05:58.46 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Arena rating from 428 points is, 2v2: 1691, 3v3: 1634, 5v5: 1546 |
| 05:59.04 | Silowyi | !ra 1546 |
| 05:59.10 | Silowyi | .. |
| 05:59.28 | Silowyi | ThraeBot! |
| 05:59.34 | sag_ich_nicht | !ap 1546 |
| 05:59.34 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Arena points from a rating of 1546 is, 2v2: 299, 3v3: 341, 5v5: 427 |
| 05:59.35 | sag_ich_nicht | nub. |
| 05:59.43 | Silowyi | ah |
| 05:59.55 | Silowyi | see that's what I thought 1546 won't cut it |
| 06:00.17 | Silowyi | not that it matters, we should be comfortably over 1600 tonight |
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| 06:00.24 | Silowyi | if we do badly |
| 06:00.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:00.58 | ckknight | finally back home |
| 06:01.06 | Spikehead777 | Hey ckknight |
| 06:01.08 | sag_ich_nicht | again? ;P |
| 06:01.15 | ckknight | ...no |
| 06:02.55 | sag_ich_nicht | so that was your cellphone earlier or something? :O |
| 06:03.35 | Gnarfoz | I was wondering the same thing :D |
| 06:03.36 | Spikehead777 | ...I'm stuck...WoWAce is saying that the variables saved in RegisterDefaults is like: variable = {value=0,value=0} etc, which basically says, "No, you can't save tables to the savedvariables file" |
| 06:04.33 | ckknight | wrong |
| 06:05.04 | ckknight | where does it say you can't save tables? |
| 06:05.37 | Spikehead777 | That's what I'm getting out of it...=/ |
| 06:06.52 | Spikehead777 | Here's the link http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0 |
| 06:08.31 | Spikehead777 | I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere. =P "width" in RegisterDefaults corresponds to "self.db.profile.width" elsewhere, but in the debugger, it says number 1, not number 2. =/ |
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| 06:10.00 | ckknight | pastey your code. |
| 06:10.26 | Spikehead777 | Okay, all of it, or just the isolated parts? |
| 06:10.54 | Silowyi | So... |
| 06:11.09 | Silowyi | if I have an associative table |
| 06:11.22 | Spikehead777 | And do you want it in a private message? |
| 06:11.26 | Silowyi | can it be accessed by binary keys as well as the associative keys? |
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| 06:12.04 | Silowyi | mytable = { ["blah"] = 1 }... mytable.blah === mytable[0]? |
| 06:13.07 | Nargiddley` | no |
| 06:13.16 | ckknight | no, Silowyi |
| 06:13.33 | ckknight | Spikehead777: just do it to the chan |
| 06:13.39 | Silowyi | see this is why wow should use ruby |
| 06:13.40 | Spikehead777 | Okay. |
| 06:13.45 | ckknight | no, Silowyi |
| 06:13.47 | Silowyi | among other reasons |
| 06:13.51 | ckknight | ruby is dead slow |
| 06:14.00 | ckknight | especially compared to lua |
| 06:14.08 | Silowyi | well compared to lua yes |
| 06:14.09 | ckknight | also, it's big |
| 06:14.13 | ckknight | and has a bad license for Blizz |
| 06:14.20 | Spikehead777 | SimpleBackground:RegisterDB("SimpleBackground") |
| 06:14.20 | Spikehead777 | SimpleBackground:RegisterDefaults("profile", { |
| 06:14.21 | Spikehead777 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.21 | Spikehead777 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.21 | Spikehead777 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.21 | Spikehead777 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.27 | ckknight | ugh |
| 06:14.33 | Silowyi | mostly I'm just venting cause I keep finding things that lua can't do that are so easy in ruby ^_^ |
| 06:14.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 06:14.40 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 06:14.48 | Silowyi | wtb python |
| 06:14.54 | Chaotic_D | man, this WoW UI Designer is screwy. the tutorial doesn't match the app. none of it works the same. |
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| 06:15.23 | Spikehead777 | Okay, HOW did I get d/ced? o_0 |
| 06:15.32 | Silowyi | Excess Flood |
| 06:15.46 | ckknight | dude, use ace.pastey.net |
| 06:15.48 | Silowyi | when ckknight said "pastey" he meant "pastey" not paste |
| 06:15.53 | Spikehead777 | And why did my paste come up in 200 lines? |
| 06:15.56 | ckknight | it's in the topic |
| 06:16.33 | Spikehead777 | Oh...I read the topic, but had no idea what it all meant XD |
| 06:16.54 | Spikehead777 | Sorry about that, you can tell I'm new at this |
| 06:17.13 | ckknight | now you know |
| 06:17.20 | Spikehead777 | Okay. |
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| 06:17.48 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if WoW UI Designer doesn't work because of all these errors it's getting just from framexml |
| 06:17.55 | ckknight | likely. |
| 06:18.36 | Chaotic_D | why the hell is framexml giving errors? :S |
| 06:18.44 | Silowyi | what is this WoW UI Designier anyway? |
| 06:18.46 | sag_ich_nicht | reminds me |
| 06:18.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i wanted to review my errors logs |
| 06:19.13 | Chaotic_D | I dunno. I think it's supposed to make frames. |
| 06:20.03 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 06:20.22 | Silowyi | is there a /command to leave battleground queue? |
| 06:20.32 | Chaotic_D | it keeps crashing too. so... somehow I doubt it's my WoW. |
| 06:20.37 | Spikehead777 | Okay. Now I think I did it right this time. Here's the pastey link http://ace.pastey.net/72415 |
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| 06:21.54 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 06:22.05 | sag_ich_nicht | my chatlog is now at 104 MB, my combatlog at 288 MB |
| 06:24.06 | Silowyi | is there a /script command to leave a battleground queue? :p |
| 06:27.21 | Arrowmaster | Spikehead777: you really should do that some other way |
| 06:28.03 | ckknight | ugh, Spikehead777, what you're doing is horribly ugly |
| 06:28.17 | Arrowmaster | also completely broken |
| 06:28.23 | Spikehead777 | =/ |
| 06:28.34 | ckknight | quite. |
| 06:28.39 | Spikehead777 | Like I said earlier, I'm new at this. |
| 06:29.30 | ckknight | do you realize that lua is 1-indexed and not 0-indexed? |
| 06:29.50 | ckknight | also, ranges work in the full-close [a,b] form, not the half-close form [a,b) |
| 06:30.11 | Spikehead777 | Okay this isn't game maker XD |
| 06:30.18 | ckknight | so for i = 1, 4 do gets the range [1, 4], not [1, 4) |
| 06:30.30 | Spikehead777 | I see |
| 06:32.15 | Arrowmaster | your also only making one set of defaults, if boxes gets increased but you dont save the data for everything then youll get a bunch of errors when your OnEnable is run |
| 06:32.46 | Chaotic_D | fuck why doesn't this work? |
| 06:33.16 | Spikehead777 | Oh. |
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| 06:34.19 | Arrowmaster | also youll create a bunch of frames everytime your addon is switched in and out of standby when you could be reusing them, would be better to do the frame creating in either OnInit or OnEnable(first) if first then ... end |
| 06:35.28 | Spikehead777 | Well, I guess I'll learn the techniques with time. |
| 06:36.46 | Chaotic_D | why doesn't WoWUIdesigner work? |
| 06:37.45 | Chaotic_D | why do I not have a UI designer window? there's no menu option for it. this thing is fucked. |
| 06:39.06 | ckknight | so don't use it? |
| 06:39.35 | Chaotic_D | =( |
| 06:39.35 | Arrowmaster | you probably want to use something like { aframe = 0, frames = { ['*'] = { height=0, width=math.ceil(GetScreenWidth() + 800,0), anchor="BOTTOM", frame=UIParent, ranchor="BOTTOM", xoff=0, yoff=0, R=0, G=0, B=0, transparency=0.5, oSkin=false, border=1 }, boxes = 1 } |
| 06:39.59 | Arrowmaster | and reference them as self.db.profile.frames[i].height |
| 06:40.10 | Spikehead777 | Oh, okay. |
| 06:40.21 | Spikehead777 | What's "['*']"? |
| 06:40.37 | Chaotic_D | why can other people use this? |
| 06:40.44 | Arrowmaster | it makes AceDB use it as default |
| 06:40.50 | Spikehead777 | Oh, okay. |
| 06:40.51 | Arrowmaster | for everything in that table |
| 06:41.13 | Arrowmaster | Chaotic_D: afaik WoW UI Designers never really 'worked' |
| 06:41.30 | Mihara | Is there a thread on eepanels and BT3s petbar? |
| 06:41.50 | Chaotic_D | well I can't do anything with it. |
| 06:41.50 | Mihara | I searched but cant find out how to have the eepanel hide when the pet is dismissed |
| 06:42.08 | Chaotic_D | I dunno. maybe it doesn't work with the latest version of WoW or something... |
| 06:42.27 | Chaotic_D | I'm just a really visual person, so I thought this would help. |
| 06:42.36 | Arrowmaster | Chaotic_D: like i said afaik its never worked and fairly certain its not updated for 2.x |
| 06:44.09 | Chaotic_D | must sleep. harder to do things. like understand why thing no worky. |
| 06:44.35 | Mihara | so no? |
| 06:44.37 | Mihara | yes? |
| 06:44.38 | Mihara | maybe? |
| 06:44.57 | Spikehead777 | Okay, so I'm going to take your advice, and use your above code. |
| 06:45.32 | Fisker- | ckknight ! |
| 06:45.36 | Chaotic_D | thanks for your continued patience with me. |
| 06:49.15 | Spikehead777 | So, when I add or remove boxes, how would I create them with the new way? "table.insert(self.db.profile.frames.variable,value)", or what? |
| 06:52.52 | Speeddymon | Spikehead777: tinsert works just as well, but yes that should do it.. |
| 06:53.03 | Spikehead777 | Okay. |
| 06:53.33 | Speeddymon | wait |
| 06:53.34 | Speeddymon | actually |
| 06:53.46 | Speeddymon | are you tryin to get the value now or set the value? |
| 06:54.14 | Spikehead777 | Well, when I create a new box, I'll need to set some new default values for that box |
| 06:55.02 | Speeddymon | os ur doing this ins regsiterdefaults? |
| 06:55.08 | Speeddymon | registerdefaults* |
| 06:55.15 | Speeddymon | damn typos lol |
| 06:56.11 | Spikehead777 | That's what I do when the mod is first initialized, I think |
| 06:56.32 | Speeddymon | well my question is where are you thinking about putting the table.insert |
| 06:57.07 | Spikehead777 | At the position where the box is created, whenever CreateBox() is run. |
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| 06:58.55 | Speeddymon | ok if you are creating a box, then you probably dont want to do a table.insert.. because you are getting the width, not setting it.. |
| 06:59.04 | Spikehead777 | Wait now that I'm thinking, does.......can't select text in mIRC DX....Arrowmaster's code above set values for even future boxes? |
| 06:59.09 | mjc | !vs us magtheridon faunn us magtheridon drazzt |
| 06:59.11 | ThraeBot | mjc: Faunn vs Drazzt! Faunn has +51 lvls on Drazzt (70 vs 19); A L70 druid and a L19 rogue square off!; 0/49/12 vs 3/7/0; Faunn wins by 19 TBRs! |
| 06:59.25 | mjc | lol 19 TBRS? :p |
| 06:59.29 | Speeddymon | you can select text in mirc.. just highlight it.. no copy needed.. paste |
| 06:59.31 | Arrowmaster | Spikehead777: yeah |
| 07:00.20 | Spikehead777 | So, all I might want to do is just set the new frame into the table, and increment the number of boxes by one, and the active frame to the new one. |
| 07:00.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah all the values will already exist for you try to access them |
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| 07:03.06 | Yssaril | !vs us Kirin Tor Yssaril us Kirin Tor Tangier |
| 07:03.06 | ThraeBot | Sorry Yssaril, you must wait 38 seconds before making another request. |
| 07:03.17 | Yssaril | lol |
| 07:03.30 | Yssaril | whats a TBRS anyway? |
| 07:04.30 | Yssaril | vs us Kirin Tor Yssaril us Kirin Tor Tangier |
| 07:04.36 | Yssaril | !vs us Kirin Tor Yssaril us Kirin Tor Tangier |
| 07:04.38 | ThraeBot | Yssaril: Yssaril vs Tangier! A L70 warlock and a L70 warrior square off!; 49/12/0 vs 12/0/49; Yssaril wins by 686 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
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| 07:10.58 | Gnarfoz | Asus's DNS servers suck. |
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| 07:17.09 | Spikehead777 | Okay, I almost have this thing working |
| 07:17.37 | Spikehead777 | I just need to get the slash commands to work |
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| 07:33.19 | sylvanaar | looks like someone fixed all the addon categories on teh svn cool |
| 07:33.48 | Gnarfoz | nothing left without one now? |
| 07:34.19 | sylvanaar | they are all spelled the same, etc |
| 07:34.46 | Spikehead777 | Okay, I closed out of WoW, deleted my addon savedvariables, loaded up, and I got a stack overflow |
| 07:35.39 | sylvanaar | are you printing to the chatframe? |
| 07:35.46 | Silowyi | !vus us Kirit Tor Yssaril us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:35.50 | Spikehead777 | Nope |
| 07:35.54 | Silowyi | !vs us Kirit Tor Yssaril us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:35.54 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Yssaril vs Silowyi! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Silowyi wins by 7488571 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 07:36.02 | Silowyi | !vs us Kirit Tor Yssaril us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:36.03 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck. |
| 07:36.07 | Silowyi | ... |
| 07:36.16 | Spikehead777 | Lol |
| 07:36.18 | Silowyi | !vs us Kirin Tor Yssaril us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:36.20 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Yssaril vs Silowyi! A L70 warlock and a L70 druid square off!; 49/12/0 vs 0/46/15; Yssaril wins by 558 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 07:36.20 | Pkekyo | Kirin Tor*** |
| 07:36.24 | Silowyi | :( |
| 07:36.29 | Silowyi | Warlock > Druid |
| 07:36.35 | Silowyi | even in pvp gear |
| 07:36.41 | Yssaril | lol |
| 07:36.44 | Silowyi | hmm was I in pvp gear? |
| 07:36.52 | Silowyi | !c us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:36.55 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Silowyi, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/46/15). 8114 HP; 4580 Mana; 114 mana regen; 6 mp5; 3889 Armour; 1086 AP; 161 Melee DPS; 24.34% melee crit; 113 melee hit; 182 +heal; 35.17% dodge; 131 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 415 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gsdgb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c53la ]] |
| 07:37.08 | Silowyi | gg logging off not in cat form! |
| 07:37.12 | Yssaril | !c us Kirin Tor Yssaril |
| 07:37.15 | ThraeBot | Yssaril: Yssaril, Level 70 Undead Warlock (49/12/0). 10060 HP; 8456 Mana; 111 mana regen; 101 spell crit; 89 spell hit; 719 +spell dmg/heal; 102 shadow dmg (821); 4.28% dodge; 4 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 755 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqjj6f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2svncm ]] |
| 07:37.25 | grzesieq | who the hell made default parrot settings? :< |
| 07:37.27 | Silowyi | one sec let me log out in cat form |
| 07:37.35 | Silowyi | I imagine whoever the hell made parrot |
| 07:37.45 | grzesieq | they cover half of my screen now :/ |
| 07:37.55 | sylvanaar | grzesieq make your own |
| 07:37.56 | Silowyi | wtb bigger screen? |
| 07:38.15 | sylvanaar | then you wont have anyone to complain to |
| 07:38.15 | grzesieq | kida hard when im in the only AB i have time for today ;) |
| 07:38.34 | Spikehead777 | Lol Silowyi |
| 07:39.00 | Silowyi | lezze |
| 07:39.04 | Silowyi | !c us whisperwind silowyi |
| 07:39.06 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Silowyi, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/46/15). 8254 HP; 4835 Mana; 109 mana regen; 5 mp5; 4257 Armour; 2736 AP; 275.3 Melee DPS; 37.3% melee crit; 113 melee hit; 223 +heal; 40.12% dodge; 131 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 415 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25jvbz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xtlgh ]] |
| 07:39.11 | sylvanaar | im sure the author of the defaults is busy too |
| 07:39.12 | Silowyi | that's more like it |
| 07:39.21 | Silowyi | !vs us Kirin Tor Yssaril us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:39.23 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Yssaril vs Silowyi! A L70 warlock and a L70 druid square off!; 49/12/0 vs 0/46/15; Yssaril wins by 552 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 07:39.27 | Silowyi | ... |
| 07:39.35 | Silowyi | wow that made a whole 6 TBRs difference |
| 07:39.41 | Silowyi | I am slain :( |
| 07:39.48 | sylvanaar | warlocks always win |
| 07:39.57 | Yssaril | remember warlock = i win :P |
| 07:40.22 | Silowyi | [02:35] (ThraeBot): Silowyi: Yssaril vs Silowyi! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Silowyi wins by 7488571 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 07:40.23 | sylvanaar | !vs us Proudmoore Exlock us Proudmoore Sylvaan |
| 07:40.25 | ThraeBot | sylvanaar: Exlock vs Sylvaan! Sylvaan has +9 lvls on Exlock (61 vs 70); A L61 warlock and a L70 druid square off!; 41/0/10 vs 5/0/56; Exlock wins by 454 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 07:40.26 | Silowyi | hah! |
| 07:40.51 | Silowyi | I see |
| 07:41.07 | Silowyi | at 9 levels wouldn't your chance to resist be something like 80%? |
| 07:41.16 | sylvanaar | showdowns are random, and purely chance based |
| 07:41.34 | Yssaril | sylvanaar what are TBRs? |
| 07:41.44 | sylvanaar | ~TBR |
| 07:41.45 | purl | tbr is probably ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take which classes are fighting each other. |
| 07:42.41 | Yssaril | ahhh |
| 07:42.49 | Spikehead777 | More Errors! XD http://ace.pastey.net/72418 Apparently, my "frames" variable doesn't exist after that first stack overflow. |
| 07:44.21 | sylvanaar | you are putting frames in your profile |
| 07:44.22 | grzesieq | !c eu Tarren Mill Grzesiek |
| 07:44.24 | ThraeBot | grzesieq: Grzesiek, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/21/40). 9414 HP; 9157 Mana; 110 mana regen; 203 spell crit; 203 spell hit; 963 +spell dmg/heal; 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 744 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24bbo2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wlyty ]] |
| 07:44.45 | grzesieq | still that old spec :o |
| 07:45.01 | Spikehead777 | Oh...=/ |
| 07:45.21 | Yssaril | !vs us Kirin Tor Yssaril eu Tarren Mill Grzesiek |
| 07:45.23 | ThraeBot | Yssaril: Yssaril vs Grzesiek! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 49/12/0 vs 0/21/40; Yssaril wins by 11 TBRs! |
| 07:45.56 | Silowyi | !vs us Whisperwind Witty us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:45.56 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Witty vs Silowyi! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Silowyi wins by 3973034 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 07:46.01 | Silowyi | !vs us Whisperwind Witty us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:46.03 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Witty vs Silowyi! Silowyi has +36 lvls on Witty (34 vs 70); A L34 warlock and a L70 druid square off!; 25/0/0 vs 0/46/15; Witty wins by 41 TBRs! |
| 07:46.10 | Silowyi | ... |
| 07:46.18 | Silowyi | you suck Thrae |
| 07:47.24 | Yssaril | need an opinion does this addon frame make sense http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1473/otionsad2.jpg (big middle thing) |
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| 07:49.04 | Yssaril | !vs us Exodar Thrae us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:49.05 | ThraeBot | Yssaril: Thrae vs Silowyi! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Thrae and Silowyi cannot hold their feelings for each other any longer, and start getting frisky. I suppose make love, not war? |
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| 07:49.15 | Yssaril | hahaha |
| 07:49.22 | Spikehead777 | Lol |
| 07:49.27 | Yssaril | !vs us Exodar Thrae us Whisperwind Silowyi |
| 07:49.28 | ThraeBot | Yssaril: Thrae vs Silowyi! Silowyi has +30 lvls on Thrae (40 vs 70); A L40 warlock and a L70 druid square off!; 0/31/0 vs 0/46/15; Thrae wins by 91 TBRs! |
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| 07:50.54 | Yssaril | anyways any opinions about the addon layout? |
| 07:51.17 | vithos | i can't tell what its purpose is |
| 07:51.27 | Spikehead777 | I assume it has something to do with a guild bank? |
| 07:51.45 | Yssaril | yep |
| 07:52.05 | CIA-14 | 03Silowyi * r46888 10MissRate/ (MissRate.lua MissRate.toc): |
| 07:52.05 | CIA-14 | MissRate: |
| 07:52.05 | CIA-14 | - Added totals, and fixed a bug with deletion. |
| 07:52.10 | Silowyi | wow svn commits are going slow tonight |
| 07:52.59 | Yssaril | the text field will contain the value of the item set by the bank/admin the checkbox is if you want to share that particular item with the guild and the item is well the item |
| 07:53.18 | Yssaril | am thinking that i might be trying to do too much in one frame |
| 07:53.19 | vithos | what are the 3 enabled buttons for? |
| 07:53.25 | vithos | personal/bank/guild |
| 07:53.39 | Yssaril | those swithc between different pages |
| 07:53.50 | Yssaril | kinda like tabs i guess |
| 07:53.51 | syeren | ckknight :)? |
| 07:53.54 | vithos | ah |
| 07:54.16 | vithos | oh, hm. one thing that confused me for a bit was i was trying to read "Filter Data" as a header |
| 07:54.18 | Yssaril | personal you can see all your inventory/bag/bank date for yourself and your alt |
| 07:54.30 | vithos | i thought that was the header for the "no value set" editboxes |
| 07:54.33 | Yssaril | bank is for the guild banks items |
| 07:54.33 | ckknight | syeren: what's all this, then? |
| 07:54.52 | Yssaril | and guild is for guildmates items that they chose to share |
| 07:55.22 | syeren | ckknight, would you happen to know if there is a fix for the count down timers on Auras anywhere? |
| 07:55.23 | Yssaril | but the one that is displaying i think needs more work (if you cant tell what it does then neither can other people :P) |
| 07:55.31 | ckknight | fix? |
| 07:55.49 | syeren | The numbers scale doesn't change rememeber :) |
| 07:55.53 | syeren | So it's tiny. |
| 07:55.55 | ckknight | I didn't know there was a problem |
| 07:56.26 | syeren | Basically you can have the biggest Aura frame possible, and the timer number's size won't change :P |
| 07:56.27 | Silowyi | that reminds me, I need to update omen, xperl, bartender, and deadly boss mods. |
| 07:56.45 | Spikehead777 | Okay, I closed wow, deleted the savedvariables for the addon I'm modding, and relogged onto wow again, and I'm still getting stack overflow. Can the frames = { ['*'] = {....}} stuff that is being initialized in RegisterDefaults be causing it? =/ |
| 07:57.07 | syeren | I can take a screenshot showing you the problem if I'm not clear enough. |
| 07:58.52 | Fisker- | btw ckknight for some reason if i have tooltips disable on unitframes, mouse over an object/unit or whatever where it's not disabled and then mouse over the unitframe before it fades away then it starts working for unitframes :( |
| 07:59.20 | Spikehead777 | o_0 Almost 2MB in the savedvariables file! |
| 07:59.30 | Spikehead777 | I didn't do it, I swear DX |
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| 08:05.32 | Spikehead777 | Okay, apparently, it's saving every addon's savedvariables files into that one particular file. What's next, I blow up my computer? =/ |
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| 08:06.26 | Yssaril | vithos: check this out i changed the header does it make more sense now? |
| 08:06.29 | Yssaril | http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9434/wowscrnshot081907030336gp8.jpg |
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| 08:09.10 | Laric | is the svn adn the files.wowace.com broken atm? |
| 08:09.52 | Yssaril | dont ahve any problems with it atm |
| 08:12.25 | vithos | Yssaril: yeah, a bit. it could use a window title though. and i'm not sure how you could accomplish it, but it'd look better if the headers were aligned with the columns |
| 08:12.27 | Sais | Hmm. Seem to be getting issues from SanityItemCache because Item.Name is nil sometimes (that's probably an issue itself)... |
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| 08:13.24 | vithos | maybe just ditch the headers and add descriptive tooltips |
| 08:13.37 | Sais | Should I do anything with a couple of hacked workarounds? Anyone? :) |
| 08:14.00 | Yssaril | hmmm could do that (will try to figure out mouseover tooltips tomorrow then :P) |
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| 08:15.29 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r46889 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 08:15.29 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 08:15.29 | CIA-14 | - Cosmetic changes |
| 08:15.50 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r46890 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_GUI.lua YGS_GUI.xml YssGuildShop.toc): |
| 08:15.50 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 08:15.50 | CIA-14 | - GUI layout for bank values and share filter is done |
| 08:16.13 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r46891 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 08:16.13 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 08:16.13 | CIA-14 | - Added the Bash'ir Landing statis chambers bosses |
| 08:16.26 | Yssaril | alright am heading to bed now will work on them tooltips tomorrow thanks for the idea vithos |
| 08:17.00 | vithos | sure; night |
| 08:17.21 | Pkekyo | "Even though your washer is clearly labeled 'Certified by ClosetGnomes, Inc.' , it's clear that Naked has not been cleaned in a while." |
| 08:17.21 | Pkekyo | made me chuckle :> |
| 08:17.51 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46892 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 08:17.51 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 08:17.51 | CIA-14 | - Fix for min-/maximization issues with tabbed chat windows |
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| 08:21.30 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r46893 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 08:21.30 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:21.30 | CIA-14 | - Added the Bash'ir Landing statis chambers bosses |
| 08:22.30 | Grum | Morning :) |
| 08:22.56 | Spikehead777 | Good morning |
| 08:25.05 | MoonWolf | ~ugt |
| 08:25.14 | purl | rumour has it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 08:25.27 | Grum | ;) |
| 08:25.38 | Grum | but it is actually morning here! =D |
| 08:25.49 | MoonWolf | good morning. |
| 08:26.10 | Spikehead777 | Lol |
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| 08:34.41 | Grum | meh, onwards to every lowlvl instance :) |
| 08:35.46 | Grum | ckknight: you've messed with drawing on the minimap before, what would the easiest way be to draw lines ontop of it? |
| 08:36.10 | ckknight | you know how to draw lines in general yet? |
| 08:36.38 | Grum | yeah |
| 08:36.43 | Grum | but not sure how i would handle the clipping |
| 08:36.58 | ckknight | with maths |
| 08:37.00 | Grum | i've got the lines on the worldmap - http://grum.nl/images/routes.jpg |
| 08:37.18 | ckknight | neat |
| 08:37.30 | Grum | yeah was afraid of that - but how do i know how the minimap is being clipped? |
| 08:37.42 | Grum | because it's defaultly round but it can also be squared |
| 08:38.07 | ckknight | I made an API that minimap addons follow: |
| 08:38.19 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/GetMinimapShape |
| 08:38.58 | Grum | gawd |
| 08:38.58 | theoddone33 | I know what WoW needs |
| 08:39.03 | Grum | sex |
| 08:39.08 | theoddone33 | well maybe |
| 08:39.14 | theoddone33 | but I was gonna go with a /petdance command |
| 08:39.25 | Grum | ckknight: this is not 'that' easy tbh :) |
| 08:40.04 | theoddone33 | ooh |
| 08:40.14 | theoddone33 | is that an "optimal" mining route addon? |
| 08:40.20 | theoddone33 | or whatever route |
| 08:40.28 | Spikehead777 | I wanted a /petemote command the other day...=\ |
| 08:41.13 | Grum | ckknight: it seems have to define a function which can determain which line intersects the minimap-region |
| 08:41.34 | ckknight | yea, doable with math |
| 08:41.47 | Grum | which is not *that* hard but having to take in account the multiple rounded corners .. it kinda sucks :) |
| 08:42.16 | Grum | i basicly have to write collision detection for a line and a 'complex' shape |
| 08:43.22 | Grum | and basicly seperate that in 'cube corners' and 'quarter circles' .. hmm thinking of it that way makes it more doable =D |
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| 08:45.17 | Spikehead777 | Well, it's almost 3:00 AM here, and I still haven't figured out why I'm getting stack overflows and 2MB savedvariables files, so I think I'm going to head to bed and work on it later. |
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| 08:49.53 | physos | heyho |
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| 08:50.14 | physos | I have a little problem with Baggins in the deDE locale. |
| 08:50.58 | Grum | ./script MapOffsets["Gnomeregan"] = {1787,627} |
| 08:51.47 | physos | There is "Mining Bag" in the category rule "Container Type" |
| 08:52.21 | physos | This does not get translated, so it is not usable. I tried to fix it, but apparently I do no get the logic. |
| 08:54.01 | physos | Additionally, I wonder if it is not a "Mining Sack" in the original. |
| 08:54.08 | Nargiddley` | physos, in Baggins-Filtering.lua near the top is the translations for the item types look |
| 08:54.31 | Nargiddley` | theres a comment for mining bag there waiting to be filled in |
| 08:55.20 | physos | ah, missed that one. |
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| 09:07.16 | physos | noob I am. Sure, it is meant for the bag not the small ones :) Thanks a lot, no idea how my grep missed that file. |
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| 09:10.54 | CIA-14 | 03nargiddley * r46894 10Baggins/Baggins-Filtering.lua: Baggins: Add Gem Item Type and subtypes, translations will be needed for this to work in other locales |
| 09:11.01 | Pkekyo | EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN CAPITAL LETTERS ON THE INTERNETS IS TRUE AND SHOULD BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY |
| 09:11.53 | sag_ich_nicht | OH REALLY |
| 09:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | I DON'T BELIEVE IT. |
| 09:12.24 | Pkekyo | CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL TO COOL BUT YOU STILL GOT TO STEER |
| 09:12.55 | Pkekyo | haha, I love these puns |
| 09:13.06 | physos | Nargiddley`: [Mining Bag] = "Bergbautasche" |
| 09:13.16 | Pkekyo | sounds kinky O.o |
| 09:13.33 | physos | while you are at it :) |
| 09:14.07 | Pkekyo | this sounds like a german pornflick :< |
| 09:15.01 | physos | Pkekyo: well, it is deDE, so yes it might sound like a german pornflick :) |
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| 09:16.20 | CIA-14 | 03nargiddley * r46895 10Baggins/Baggins-Filtering.lua: Baggins: Add deDE Mining bag translation, thanks physos |
| 09:17.01 | physos | Will look at the rest. |
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| 09:18.26 | Sais | Bleh. Probably been noted before, but Cartographer Waypoints doesn't play nicely with "rotate minimap" (or with 'mouse-look' which is a little less annoying) |
| 09:20.10 | Pkekyo | anyone able to tell me how the 'Rules' stuff in ArkInventory works? |
| 09:21.06 | Pkekyo | ~arkinventory |
| 09:21.25 | Pkekyo | physos: dede? sounds like a girl from a german pornflick :P |
| 09:22.27 | Sais | ...or maybe rotate minimap just screws with all the POIs... |
| 09:23.52 | CIA-14 | 03anxarces * r46896 10ProfessionsBook/ (4 files): |
| 09:23.52 | CIA-14 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 09:23.52 | CIA-14 | -Fixed a bug preventing to set the focus to the chat frame when performing a recipe search |
| 09:23.52 | CIA-14 | -Added shift-click support to the chat frame (posting recipe links to the chat frame) |
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| 09:30.11 | charon | Pkekyo: http://wowace.com/wiki/ArkInventory ? |
| 09:31.13 | charon | you write rules that match stuff you want to put separately, then assign them to virtual bags. fairly straightforward really, except the built-in stuff has an order of 0 (i think) |
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| 09:34.57 | Pkekyo | meh, I don't understand how to write a rule that will put all my gems (cut and uncut) in a bag of their own |
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| 09:35.41 | Pkekyo | also: anyone know how to get rid of that fugly background texture in the default frame? :> |
| 09:37.12 | Pkekyo | figure out the rules stuff... :> |
| 09:37.12 | Pkekyo | anyone know how to get rid of the background texture of ArkInventorY? |
| 09:37.30 | sylvanaar | i told that guy hours ago why he was getting stack overflows |
| 09:37.39 | sylvanaar | sheesh |
| 09:38.21 | theoddone33 | I just learned that using static to specify internal linkage is considered deprecated in c++ |
| 09:38.25 | theoddone33 | and... I'm surprised |
| 09:38.29 | theoddone33 | ! |
| 09:38.31 | theoddone33 | sorry OT |
| 09:38.38 | sylvanaar | it is yeah |
| 09:38.58 | theoddone33 | I learned that ... while thinking about WoW addons? |
| 09:38.58 | sylvanaar | you use anonymous namespaces which have external linkage rofl |
| 09:39.13 | theoddone33 | yeah... I'm not sure it matters though |
| 09:39.19 | sylvanaar | it doesnt |
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| 09:39.56 | sylvanaar | static is assumed anyways if you just declare stuff at file scope |
| 09:39.56 | theoddone33 | I dunno what compilers do when they have two declarations with internal linkage and the same name in two different TUs |
| 09:39.56 | Grum | ./script MapOffsets["Stratholme"] = {-7313,-7382} |
| 09:40.18 | theoddone33 | hm I'm not sure that's accurate |
| 09:40.23 | sylvanaar | it is |
| 09:40.30 | theoddone33 | static (or internal linkage) is assumed on const and inline stuff |
| 09:40.39 | theoddone33 | I thought everything else was external |
| 09:41.25 | sylvanaar | if you define things at file scope in your *.c *.cpp files static is assumed |
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| 09:41.37 | charon | Pkekyo: the page lists pt( Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession.Alchemy, Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Mote, Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Primal, Tradeskill.Tool.Alchemy ) |
| 09:41.37 | charon | [edit] |
| 09:41.37 | charon | tooltip( arg, arg, ..., arg ) |
| 09:41.37 | charon | checks if the value in arg is contained within the tooltip text |
| 09:41.37 | charon | Args |
| 09:41.38 | charon | arg: string (localised, case insensitive) |
| 09:41.40 | charon | Remarks |
| 09:41.42 | charon | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:41.44 | charon | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:41.46 | charon | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:41.49 | charon | aaargh. sorry :( |
| 09:42.18 | charon | anyway, wanted to say, maybe you can figure out the PT (periodictable?) category for gems |
| 09:42.28 | sylvanaar | ie int my_var = 5 |
| 09:42.40 | sylvanaar | thats static |
| 09:43.25 | sylvanaar | put it in a header, and the story changes |
| 09:44.24 | theoddone33 | http://www.kuzbass.ru:8086/docs/isocpp/basic.html#basic.link |
| 09:44.47 | Pkekyo | ahaha, a mage just tried to gank me...so I broke combat, took off all my gear, and jumped off a cliff so he wouldn't get a HK off me ^^ |
| 09:45.31 | theoddone33 | wow |
| 09:45.33 | Mecdemort | wow |
| 09:45.41 | Mecdemort | thats...thinking ahead? |
| 09:46.11 | theoddone33 | I got MC'd off the cliff in AB twice... pretty annoying since paladins don't have much in the way of spell defense |
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| 09:46.27 | Mecdemort | you cant uberbubble out of it? |
| 09:46.29 | Pkekyo | Mecdemort: it all happened within 5 sec |
| 09:46.33 | theoddone33 | never had to worry about that as an undead rogue |
| 09:46.52 | theoddone33 | yeah you can bubble but that gives you 12 seconds of immunity |
| 09:46.58 | theoddone33 | and if you're alone they just MC you again |
| 09:47.08 | Mecdemort | just bubble right before you hit the ground, break MC and no damage |
| 09:47.18 | Pkekyo | haha, I can't stop wondering what seeing that must've been like for the mage O.o |
| 09:47.35 | Mecdemort | Pkekyo: ya i think the mage would have been more amused than if he just killed you |
| 09:47.36 | theoddone33 | the thing was I was sole defender... me off the cliff is them capping the node whether I take damage or not |
| 09:48.00 | theoddone33 | then I go back up there to try to take it back and I get thrown right off again |
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| 09:48.33 | Pkekyo | Mecdemort: indeed, I would've laughed my arse off |
| 09:48.37 | Pkekyo | well, I did :p |
| 09:48.58 | sylvanaar | theoddone33 where are you saying it disagrees with what i was saying |
| 09:49.01 | Mecdemort | i'd have jumped off after you ;p |
| 09:49.18 | Pkekyo | nah, the cunt only waited 'till I came back and ressed |
| 09:49.22 | theoddone33 | it was more of a draw your own conclusion thing... it reads to me like it agrees with what I thought |
| 09:49.25 | Pkekyo | then he tried gank me again...rinse and repeat |
| 09:49.29 | theoddone33 | this part mostly: |
| 09:49.35 | Pkekyo | I've jumped off the cliff a grand total of three times by now |
| 09:49.39 | theoddone33 | A name having namespace scope has external linkage if it is the name of |
| 09:49.39 | theoddone33 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.06 | theoddone33 | where the part about internal linkage says "explicitly declared static" among a couple other things |
| 09:51.25 | theoddone33 | some people are partying right outside my window at 3am |
| 09:51.32 | theoddone33 | that's gonna be great when I'm trying to sleep in a couple minutes |
| 09:51.43 | Pkekyo | Need help with ArkInventory - How can I get rid of that default fugly texture? |
| 09:53.13 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46897 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 09:53.13 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 09:53.13 | CIA-14 | - new option to clamp chat windows to screen |
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| 09:53.56 | sylvanaar | theoddone33 you are reading the rules for things declared within a namespace |
| 09:54.06 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 09:54.14 | theoddone33 | translation unit scope is the global namespace |
| 09:54.18 | theoddone33 | unless I misunderstand this |
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| 09:55.03 | theoddone33 | anyway I don't really want to fight about it, I'm not prepared to defend my position very effectively |
| 09:55.08 | Grum | Cryect: Record doens't pick up me zoning into Scarlet Monastary |
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| 09:55.38 | theoddone33 | now I'm just wondering if using a bunch of anonymous namespaces in the same file can choke the compiler |
| 09:56.32 | theoddone33 | because you get the same effect as if you put them all in one anonymous namespace, but the compiler has to generate a unique id for each one |
| 09:56.55 | sylvanaar | thats what i do for the old "static" stuff |
| 09:57.12 | theoddone33 | static int blah -> namespace { int blah; } ? |
| 09:57.16 | sylvanaar | one anon namespace per TU |
| 09:57.18 | sylvanaar | yeah |
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| 09:57.40 | theoddone33 | now I wonder if compilers cheat and combine all the anonymous namespaces in a TU into one |
| 09:57.44 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 09:57.52 | sylvanaar | they do |
| 09:58.01 | theoddone33 | good |
| 09:58.13 | theoddone33 | now I'm gonna have to start using that |
| 09:58.17 | theoddone33 | but it will be hard to break old habits |
| 09:58.20 | sylvanaar | there can only be 1 per TU i think |
| 09:58.34 | theoddone33 | ah yeah |
| 09:58.41 | theoddone33 | you're correct, I read it weirdly |
| 09:58.42 | sylvanaar | i mean how would you refer to them right lol |
| 09:58.59 | theoddone33 | it behaves as if they all have a unique name |
| 09:59.06 | theoddone33 | and that name is the same for every anon namespace in the TU |
| 09:59.32 | theoddone33 | unless you nest! |
| 09:59.33 | theoddone33 | I bet |
| 10:00.04 | sylvanaar | lol, you probably can, though that sounds masochistic |
| 10:00.11 | theoddone33 | doesn't make much sense |
| 10:00.42 | theoddone33 | http://www.kuzbass.ru:8086/docs/isocpp/dcl.html#namespace.unnamed their example is weird |
| 10:00.48 | theoddone33 | masochistic is about right |
| 10:03.17 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/coppers.jpg |
| 10:03.18 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:04.22 | Grum | lol |
| 10:04.51 | theoddone33 | that is a lot of fishing |
| 10:04.55 | Ordog | somebody into wc3 leagues in here? |
| 10:05.04 | Fisker- | 225->275 :/ |
| 10:05.55 | theoddone33 | is that have materials checkbox in the blizz profession uI? |
| 10:06.12 | Fisker- | yes |
| 10:06.19 | theoddone33 | cool, never noticed it |
| 10:07.12 | Fisker- | but atleast i can supply myself in mp5 food soon :P |
| 10:07.31 | Fisker- | i got 231mp5 buffed :o |
| 10:07.33 | Fisker- | i liek |
| 10:07.48 | theoddone33 | I have like 122 out of combat |
| 10:07.51 | theoddone33 | ! |
| 10:08.01 | Fisker- | mine is 231 while casting btw :P |
| 10:08.08 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 10:08.13 | theoddone33 | I would like that much |
| 10:08.14 | Fisker- | it's 3xx something outside the 5sec rule |
| 10:08.28 | theoddone33 | although to be honest I don't go OOM much |
| 10:08.33 | Fisker- | i lol'd so much yesterday where we double pulled in heroic HFR |
| 10:08.51 | Fisker- | when i hit zero mana i could still regen enough to outheal the damage |
| 10:08.51 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:09.07 | Punkie` | oh hai Fisker- |
| 10:09.14 | Fisker- | oh hai Punkie` |
| 10:09.15 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/coppers.jpg \/ |
| 10:09.18 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 10:09.25 | Fisker- | it's cruise control for awesome |
| 10:09.36 | Fisker- | i'm making like 3 more silver on all the fishes i cook |
| 10:09.41 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 10:09.47 | Punkie` | i have max cooking and fishing too :P |
| 10:09.52 | Fisker- | :( |
| 10:09.58 | Punkie` | :D |
| 10:10.09 | Punkie` | I did fishing while watching half a series :P |
| 10:10.34 | Fisker- | i wonder when Blizzard is going to nerf Mp5 though |
| 10:10.41 | Fisker- | looks like it's scaling way to high already |
| 10:11.02 | theoddone33 | well everyone was complaining about how paladins scaled with crit |
| 10:11.05 | theoddone33 | and now it's nerfed |
| 10:11.07 | Punkie` | Fisker-: your ui looks horrible :( |
| 10:11.11 | Fisker- | no u Punkie` |
| 10:11.16 | theoddone33 | so you think they'll nerf all the caster classes? |
| 10:11.23 | Fisker- | probably just palas :P |
| 10:11.50 | theoddone33 | eh I hope they don't make paladins useless |
| 10:11.54 | theoddone33 | then I'll have to reroll again |
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| 10:13.24 | Mecdemort | how does unm stand for negation |
| 10:14.00 | Grum | how can you get the correct 'subzone' for Scarlet monestary? |
| 10:14.23 | Grum | Graveyard/Catherdral/Armory/Library? |
| 10:15.11 | Mecdemort | GetSubZoneText() should return that |
| 10:15.36 | Grum | thanks |
| 10:15.42 | Grum | fixing Record :P |
| 10:16.01 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=224 <--this sums current graphic and how shitty is up pretty good. |
| 10:16.07 | Grum | is there any 'library' function which will return 'the unique' zone? |
| 10:16.41 | Mecdemort | what do you mean |
| 10:17.23 | Grum | well, i'm standing SM Catherdral |
| 10:17.44 | Grum | *Cathedral and i want to have it return the localized zone as found in Babble-Zone |
| 10:17.52 | Mecdemort | also BZ["Armory"],BZ["Library"], BZ["Cathedral"], and BZ["Graveyard"] if you want locals |
| 10:18.11 | Grum | yeah but then i have to make an 'exception' for SM only to look at 'GetSubZoneText()' |
| 10:18.25 | Grum | so i know in *which* SM i am :) |
| 10:18.38 | Grum | wondering if anyone has done that because there are likely more zones like this |
| 10:18.46 | Grum | Dire Maul for example i reckon has the same problem |
| 10:18.56 | Mecdemort | GetRealZoneText() should return Scarlet Monastary |
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| 10:19.39 | Mecdemort | im confused |
| 10:20.01 | Grum | yes |
| 10:20.05 | Mecdemort | oh 1 sec |
| 10:20.09 | Grum | hehe |
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| 10:20.20 | Grum | local zoneText=GetRealZoneText() |
| 10:20.20 | Grum | if zoneText == BZ["Tempest Keep"] then |
| 10:20.20 | Grum | zoneText = BZ["The Eye"] |
| 10:20.20 | Grum | elseif zoneText == BZ["Scarlet Monastary"] then |
| 10:20.21 | Grum | zoneText = BZ[GetSubZoneText()] |
| 10:20.22 | Grum | end |
| 10:21.06 | Grum | oh the BZ[] around the GetSubZone is useless |
| 10:21.23 | Mecdemort | yar |
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| 10:21.40 | Mecdemort | it'll always return it in the users locale |
| 10:22.27 | Grum | yeah |
| 10:22.31 | Grum | lets see if this works now :) |
| 10:22.46 | Grum | getting the right offsets for all zones i can enter for Record |
| 10:22.50 | Grum | to make Cryect happy ;) |
| 10:22.59 | Mecdemort | wassa Record |
| 10:23.17 | Grum | Record will be a plugin into Cartographer to show the instancemap like a normal map |
| 10:23.39 | Grum | and it can actually show yourself walking on the instance-map |
| 10:23.45 | Mecdemort | how would that work |
| 10:23.54 | Grum | higher magic:) |
| 10:24.29 | Grum | seems wow has a coordinate system other than the one we use (and it is used for pinging) using that you can also map locations in instance maps |
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| 10:24.41 | Mecdemort | nice |
| 10:24.42 | Grum | that is what GPSlib provides (also Cryects baby i think) |
| 10:25.15 | Grum | so basicly you can get the instance-map from the raw-minimap tiles and stitch em together and draw player arrows ontop of it |
| 10:25.33 | Mecdemort | uh huh |
| 10:25.38 | Grum | and have unlimited zoom/moving around over it without being restricted to the minimap window |
| 10:26.22 | Mecdemort | are there any plugins that let you view world maps as minimap textures since they are more detailed |
| 10:27.10 | Fisker- | i thought record was something else Grum |
| 10:27.19 | sag_ich_nicht | yatlas. |
| 10:30.25 | Fisker- | btw sylvanaar seems like the changelog doesn't work |
| 10:30.49 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 10:31.38 | Fisker- | Mine just shows "Changelog" and nothing in the changelog itself |
| 10:31.41 | sylvanaar | run your update while the HTML tab is showing |
| 10:31.41 | Grum | Fisker-: it will be able to record player movement over time but that was not the original purpose i think -- not sure though |
| 10:31.52 | sylvanaar | worked for me just now |
| 10:32.22 | Grum | hmmm |
| 10:32.29 | Grum | why cant i determain the zone i am in when being in SM ? |
| 10:32.50 | Grum | because getsubzone will also not return cathedral/armory etc |
| 10:33.12 | Mecdemort | hmm |
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| 10:33.37 | Mecdemort | does the minimap give the right name? |
| 10:34.13 | Fisker- | in theory couldn't you just hijack the minimap and put it in the worldmap frame? |
| 10:34.34 | Grum | no |
| 10:34.37 | Grum | it doesnt |
| 10:34.42 | Mecdemort | Grum: I think the problem is that most winged instances are just 1 instance with disconnected maps |
| 10:35.11 | Grum | yeah i know |
| 10:35.18 | Grum | but that still doesnt solve my problem right now |
| 10:35.24 | Grum | mmm i could fix this i think |
| 10:35.27 | Mecdemort | looks like for SM theres no way, hopefully you can tell by the coordinates? |
| 10:35.30 | Grum | i can still place the map |
| 10:35.44 | Grum | but i only have 1s orso to fix it unless i hook the refresh function hehehe |
| 10:35.52 | Grum | yeah you can i think |
| 10:36.19 | Grum | ah well problem for Cryect - i think i can solve it for now so i can see the bloody map on the right spot - he just has to stitch the maps together |
| 10:36.40 | Mecdemort | ya probably best to just show all 4 instances on 1 map and adjust the coordinates |
| 10:38.36 | Grum | yup |
| 10:38.39 | Grum | humz i cant fix it now |
| 10:39.01 | Grum | it cna draw the map but it can not find the offset for it because the mapname is wrong O.o |
| 10:39.22 | Fisker- | record is pretty nice btw |
| 10:40.53 | evl | Jesus fucking christ |
| 10:41.02 | evl | here we spend billions trying to get haste rating |
| 10:41.11 | evl | and they nerf it by fucking 50% |
| 10:41.20 | Mecdemort | buffing caster rating again ;p |
| 10:41.39 | Mecdemort | still basically useless tho |
| 10:41.42 | evl | "hello, we're making fury warriors completely useless again but we're not putting it in patch notes, kk thx bai" |
| 10:41.54 | Mecdemort | its cuz rogues > god |
| 10:42.34 | Pkekyo | anyone here have decent knowledge of ArkInventory? |
| 10:45.15 | Mikk | Ark, prolly |
| 10:46.16 | phyber | ~seen anxarces |
| 10:46.18 | purl | i haven't seen 'anxarces', phyber |
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| 10:46.23 | Grum | evl: the mats arent that 'harsh' |
| 10:48.09 | Pkekyo | Mikk: wha? |
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| 10:53.30 | CIA-14 | SalvationRemover: |
| 10:53.30 | CIA-14 | - removal of Mark of the Wild fixed |
| 10:58.51 | Pkekyo | In ArkInventory, I want the empty buttons of the 'Default' area to be transparent. Anyone know how to do this? |
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| 11:08.20 | CIA-14 | 03jerry * r46900 10PitBull_AltAura/ (10 files): PitBull_AltAura: initial commit |
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| 11:13.16 | CIA-14 | 03borlox * r46901 10NCHide/ (Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 11:13.16 | CIA-14 | NCHide: |
| 11:13.16 | CIA-14 | - added AddFrame option to the menu and updated the help texts |
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| 11:38.17 | Fisker- | pretty useless addon :P |
| 11:38.19 | Fisker- | SalvationRemover |
| 11:39.01 | Grum | not for feral druids or mt in any kind |
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| 11:40.22 | Nandini | strange that there are 3 addons that try to do the exact same trivial task, remove one buff |
| 11:41.20 | Pkekyo | how can I identify the frame I'm hovering with my mouse? |
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| 11:42.07 | nevcairiel | do /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
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| 11:42.47 | Pkekyo | cheers, appreciated |
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| 11:43.35 | CIA-14 | 03diablohu * r46902 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua): |
| 11:43.35 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:43.36 | CIA-14 | - update zhCN |
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| 11:45.35 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46903 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 11:45.35 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 11:45.35 | CIA-14 | - option to change the direction of minimization re-implemented |
| 11:46.33 | Wobin | !c us argent dawn ephemeral |
| 11:46.36 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Ephemeral, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/42/19). 4729 HP; 5096 Mana; 110 mana regen; 11 mp5; 3787 Armour; 968 AP; 172.9 Melee DPS; 20.53% melee crit; 121 melee hit; 11.67% dodge; 5% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 566 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ysg9yv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2npw6u ]] |
| 11:46.50 | Shirik | wow |
| 11:46.58 | Shirik | it's pretty hard to have that little HP at 70 |
| 11:47.18 | Shirik | I mean hell even my priest has more |
| 11:48.05 | [dRaCo] | if it wasnt for the armor I would have said that guy logged out nakes |
| 11:48.11 | [dRaCo] | s/nakes/naked/ |
| 11:49.00 | evl | How do I hide a secure frame in combat? |
| 11:49.20 | Shirik | you don't |
| 11:49.26 | Shirik | [dRaCo]: Most of his gear is unstatted |
| 11:49.48 | Shirik | evl: More correctly to your answer, you either fake hide it or use a secure state header |
| 11:50.04 | evl | and how do I use this secure state header |
| 11:50.11 | Shirik | With pain |
| 11:50.13 | Shirik | a lot of pain |
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| 11:50.21 | Shirik | What do you want to do |
| 11:50.28 | evl | Hide MainMenuBar |
| 11:50.39 | Shirik | that's... a secure frame? |
| 11:50.48 | evl | isn't it? |
| 11:50.52 | Shirik | when do you want to hide it? |
| 11:50.53 | Shirik | I don't think so |
| 11:50.57 | Shirik | there's no reason for it to be |
| 11:51.12 | evl | I can't hide it in combat with :Hide( |
| 11:51.21 | Shirik | it gives you an action blocked message? |
| 11:51.26 | evl | no |
| 11:51.28 | evl | just doersn't do anything |
| 11:51.55 | Shirik | ok I'll assume you are getting that message it's just being surpressed |
| 11:52.04 | evl | I'm doing it in an addon |
| 11:52.06 | nevcairiel | MainMenuBar contains buttons |
| 11:52.11 | nevcairiel | so it makes them locked in combat |
| 11:52.13 | [dRaCo] | bt3 hides that bar, though |
| 11:52.15 | Shirik | well you can't put a secure state header on it unless you want to recreate the whole thing |
| 11:52.18 | nevcairiel | doesnt have to be secure buttons |
| 11:52.30 | evl | i presume that also affects the parent? |
| 11:52.33 | Shirik | Yeah that's why I don't see any reason for it to be secure :/ |
| 11:52.57 | Shirik | anyway |
| 11:53.01 | Shirik | When do you want to hide it |
| 11:53.04 | Shirik | and when do you want to show it |
| 11:53.08 | evl | when I click a key |
| 11:53.15 | evl | press* |
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| 11:54.24 | Shirik | there's no real "easy" way to do it, even by secure header standards, unless you want to recreate the bar |
| 11:54.46 | Shirik | still I maintain... I don't think it's secure |
| 11:54.51 | evl | So can I try something :P |
| 11:54.58 | evl | I don't know how to change the state |
| 11:55.13 | nevcairiel | Its not usign any secure headers |
| 11:55.17 | nevcairiel | BUT it contains buttons |
| 11:55.24 | nevcairiel | and any form of button is locked in combat |
| 11:55.26 | Shirik | anything can contain buttons though |
| 11:55.31 | Shirik | since when? |
| 11:55.35 | nevcairiel | 2.0 |
| 11:55.36 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 11:55.37 | Nargiddley` | doesnt everything that accepts mouse input get locked down, so you cant havesecure stuff behind it for instance ? |
| 11:55.48 | evl | so I can't really hide it in combat what so ever |
| 11:56.03 | Shirik | no that can't be true |
| 11:56.08 | Shirik | I've hidden frames containg buttons before |
| 11:56.21 | evl | using Hide or other methods? |
| 11:56.26 | Shirik | yup |
| 11:57.09 | Shirik | p.s. Nargiddley` It's been long known that's possible |
| 11:57.25 | Shirik | and is part of the reason Enable/Disable weren't locked down in combat |
| 11:57.35 | Shirik | however they recently secured it due to conflicts with /click |
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| 11:58.15 | Nargiddley` | i've never looked into it that much, and not really since it first came out |
| 11:58.44 | Nargiddley` | got MainAssist working and that was enough for me heh |
| 11:59.14 | evl | So where do I start? SetPoint and Hide don't worek |
| 11:59.23 | Shirik | sec |
| 12:00.23 | AKX | !ca 5d6 + 3d8 |
| 12:00.24 | zenBot | 5d6 + 3d8 = 39.0 |
| 12:00.27 | AKX | Fun. |
| 12:00.36 | Shirik | ok |
| 12:00.46 | Shirik | I agree that MainMenuBar will not hide/show in combat |
| 12:00.58 | Shirik | however I hid 2 other frames that contained buttons :P |
| 12:01.18 | Shirik | insecure buttons, naturally, but buttons |
| 12:01.47 | AKX | What if you... anticipate the player going into combat? |
| 12:01.55 | Nargiddley` | probably getting secured by relationship to the action buttons then |
| 12:01.56 | AKX | For example, with random() ? |
| 12:02.03 | Shirik | I agree |
| 12:02.26 | nevcairiel | Hm, did your buttons have EnableMouse(true) that you hid? |
| 12:02.34 | Shirik | yup |
| 12:02.42 | Shirik | otherwise they wouldn't exatly work :P |
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| 12:03.04 | Stonegate | Hello everyone ! |
| 12:03.09 | Shirik | hi |
| 12:04.12 | Stonegate | I got a small problem here. I´ve updated all my addons via wowace updater and now i get tons of spam messages when particular players in my guild log off who use ace addons as well. I get "No player named <name here> is currently playing" messages every 5-45 seconds. |
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| 12:04.59 | art3mis | i get those if ive got the lookup enabled from whispers |
| 12:05.03 | art3mis | in my chat mod |
| 12:05.29 | art3mis | chances are it's sending sync messages from addons and you're "responding" by looking them up because of the perceived whisper |
| 12:07.15 | Stonegate | you mean prat ? |
| 12:09.31 | art3mis | shore |
| 12:09.55 | art3mis | i dont use prat but a chat responder or spam filter would be a good place to start |
| 12:11.17 | sylvanaar | its not prat |
| 12:11.26 | sylvanaar | prat doesnt do that kind of stuff |
| 12:11.58 | Stonegate | yah i am sure it´s not prat |
| 12:12.09 | Stonegate | somehow it doesnt occur when i disable VitalWatch |
| 12:12.21 | Stonegate | but i kinda need VitalWatch |
| 12:14.03 | Stonegate | a friend has the same issue but he doesnt use VitalWatch.. thats the point that is making it strange |
| 12:15.03 | Fisker- | http://ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00269/Thailand_Hello_Kitt_269359d.jpg <-oh fucking lol |
| 12:15.48 | Industrial | Fisker-: why? |
| 12:16.20 | Fisker- | Hello Kitty Armbands for police officers that get disciplined :D |
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| 12:16.42 | Shirik | rofl yes I saw that a few weeks ago |
| 12:16.47 | Shirik | awesome huh |
| 12:16.49 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:17.02 | Fisker- | i would join the thailand police force immediately |
| 12:18.50 | Industrial | i need standup comedy on youtubre |
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| 12:19.03 | Industrial | not the first 15 pages of the search "standup comedy" |
| 12:19.11 | Shirik | lol |
| 12:19.15 | Industrial | (go figure) |
| 12:19.27 | Industrial | seen it all :3 |
| 12:20.06 | Industrial | if someone has that lewis black thing as a whole id love it |
| 12:20.13 | Industrial | cutting shit up in clips ftl |
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| 12:30.54 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 12:33.03 | Industrial | cncfanatics: :O! |
| 12:33.50 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 12:33.50 | cncfanatics | yo |
| 12:34.33 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 12:34.42 | Fisker- | you can apparently signup for Fileplanet for free :D |
| 12:34.46 | Fisker- | stupid security holes |
| 12:36.11 | vithos | some app managed to create a file with a name so long explorer can't rename it, and i can't copy or move it in command prompt |
| 12:36.18 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 12:36.23 | cncfanatics | vithos, no way around |
| 12:36.25 | cncfanatics | except |
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| 12:36.35 | Fisker- | FORMAT C: OMG LOL |
| 12:36.37 | cncfanatics | tried dragging it to the bin ? |
| 12:36.41 | Fisker- | bah |
| 12:36.54 | Chompers | it's happened again fisker |
| 12:37.03 | Chompers | [04:26] <Funkeh`> Read the website |
| 12:37.07 | vithos | Fisker-: see that's the thing, i'm about to. i was trying to back it up and my ftp client thinks it's a folder |
| 12:37.08 | Chompers | then i wake up |
| 12:37.12 | Chompers | and here you are |
| 12:37.17 | nevcairiel | that was Funkeh` |
| 12:37.27 | Chompers | uh |
| 12:37.31 | Chompers | i pasted the wrong line |
| 12:37.32 | vithos | i don't want to delete it :( i want to keep it but renamed |
| 12:37.43 | Fisker- | :o Chompers |
| 12:37.43 | vithos | i guess i could try a linux livecd |
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| 12:38.00 | Sais | vithos: Should be able to rename it using the short filename from the cmd prompt, iirc |
| 12:38.13 | vithos | it's not like it matters if my filesystem gets fucked at this point, since it's the last file i need to backup |
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| 12:38.17 | vithos | oh |
| 12:38.24 | vithos | i forgot about short names |
| 12:38.26 | nevcairiel | yeah using the 8.3 name should always work |
| 12:38.49 | Sais | And there are other ways of doing it, but I can't remember how without my Interwebmemory. ;) |
| 12:42.40 | Stonegate | sylvanaar: i just enabled debugging in prat and when i get that no player online message, it says something like "PratPostAddMessage" on top |
| 12:43.22 | Stonegate | Prat_PostAddMessage |
| 12:43.53 | vithos | 8.3 isn't working either |
| 12:44.07 | Fisker- | are you doing it right? |
| 12:44.10 | vithos | i can tabcomplete from the 8.3 to the long filename |
| 12:44.14 | vithos | so i think so |
| 12:44.30 | Fisker- | someth~1.ext |
| 12:44.32 | Fisker- | like that? |
| 12:44.36 | vithos | yes, in all caps |
| 12:44.41 | Fisker- | awright |
| 12:45.02 | vithos | tried removing a hyphen, changing it to _, and leaving it as a hyphen |
| 12:45.03 | vithos | none work |
| 12:45.22 | cncfanatics | Industrial, tried FB yet ? |
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| 12:46.36 | Industrial | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7438 |
| 12:46.36 | Industrial | :P |
| 12:47.00 | vithos | Windows Command Processor has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience. |
| 12:47.02 | Fisker- | i'm going to cum |
| 12:47.15 | Fisker- | get POWARSHELL vithos |
| 12:47.15 | Industrial | Fisker-: not in my general direction |
| 12:47.23 | Shirik | vithos: lol, Fisker-: >< |
| 12:47.32 | Fisker- | gotta turn this disaster train around then |
| 12:47.39 | sylvanaar | Stonegate those are prat debug messages |
| 12:48.09 | Industrial | "i enabled debugging, and now it gives me a message" |
| 12:48.13 | Industrial | gj, 1+1=2 |
| 12:48.22 | Fisker- | :D |
| 12:48.27 | Fisker- | 1+1 = 11 imo |
| 12:48.31 | Industrial | fail |
| 12:48.34 | Shirik | it's 10 you nitwits |
| 12:48.44 | Fisker- | oh lawd is that sum binary? |
| 12:48.50 | vithos | powershell = lol vista? |
| 12:49.00 | Shirik | vithos: That's negative vista |
| 12:49.01 | Shirik | er |
| 12:49.03 | Shirik | negative shell |
| 12:49.11 | Fisker- | neither vista or xp |
| 12:49.11 | Industrial | whats vista |
| 12:49.14 | Shirik | like you take what you get in xp, square it, and then negate it |
| 12:49.16 | Fisker- | i don't even know if it's out of beta yet |
| 12:49.18 | Shirik | that's what you get in vista |
| 12:49.19 | Fisker- | ~wiki powershell |
| 12:49.25 | Fisker- | DO IT |
| 12:49.39 | Shirik | very useful purl thanks |
| 12:49.57 | Industrial | ~botsnack |
| 12:49.57 | purl | aw, gee, Industrial |
| 12:50.28 | Fisker- | ~botslap |
| 12:50.31 | purl | OUCH! That hurt, fisker-! |
| 12:50.37 | Fisker- | you weren't fast enough! |
| 12:50.45 | art3mis | hrm thats kind of neat |
| 12:50.47 | vithos | oh, that must have been one of the many technologies that didn't get done because they were too busy making windows look like glass |
| 12:51.01 | art3mis | sure beats me having to reload unix32 each time |
| 12:51.12 | vithos | LOL WINFS |
| 12:51.23 | Shirik | vithos how dare you question he ways of microsoft! |
| 12:51.31 | Shirik | Of course eye candy is more important than utility or security! |
| 12:51.33 | Fisker- | it's done |
| 12:51.41 | Fisker- | it's just not built into the OS |
| 12:51.44 | Fisker- | it's a seperate download |
| 12:51.50 | vithos | yeah, but it was supposed to be included |
| 12:51.57 | Fisker- | probably |
| 12:52.04 | vithos | used to be called monad |
| 12:52.10 | Fisker- | i know |
| 12:52.22 | vithos | oh well, brb lunix |
| 12:52.34 | Industrial | heh i just rebooted too |
| 12:52.35 | Industrial | ;P |
| 12:52.51 | Shirik | however, that is indeed pretty cool |
| 12:53.03 | Shirik | minus the .NET framework part |
| 12:55.00 | Shirik | oooh /targetexact will be nice |
| 12:55.41 | cncfanatics | Industrial, making an actionbar addon too ? :o |
| 12:56.42 | Industrial | cncfanatics: ive had that for .. ages ;p |
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| 12:56.52 | Industrial | industrial.wowinterface.com |
| 12:57.26 | cncfanatics | oh :o |
| 12:57.30 | cncfanatics | why not include stances though ? |
| 12:57.38 | cncfanatics | thats like, 10 lines of code |
| 12:58.03 | Industrial | im not touching secure things |
| 12:58.15 | Industrial | its always been dodgy, bars not swapping or swapping wrong for me etc |
| 12:58.35 | Industrial | plus its something REALLY hard to understand on top of the wow api |
| 12:58.40 | Industrial | i just dont understand why they did that |
| 12:58.43 | Industrial | totally against it |
| 12:58.44 | Industrial | ;P |
| 12:59.12 | Gnarfoz | lol right |
| 12:59.31 | cncfanatics | Industrial |
| 12:59.33 | cncfanatics | its easy |
| 12:59.36 | Industrial | cncfanatics |
| 12:59.36 | cncfanatics | once u understand it |
| 12:59.37 | Industrial | its not |
| 12:59.37 | cncfanatics | imo |
| 12:59.50 | cncfanatics | I had a hard time, till someone showed me the StateDriverFrame magic |
| 12:59.51 | cncfanatics | its really neat |
| 12:59.53 | Industrial | besides i play hunter |
| 12:59.54 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:00.16 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: WAU doesn't re-create the start menu link right in the top level of the start menu when WAU is updated... it does it on every start of the app -.- |
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| 13:09.55 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
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| 13:10.06 | cncfanatics | in a week or so I might finaly release a god damn release condidate for flexbar |
| 13:10.21 | sleep|raider | dont the repair tool in wow have some kind of estimate when its done downloading |
| 13:10.47 | sleep|raider | its just dl at300kb/s atm soon 300mb, and i have no clue if its bugged or actuly getting anywhere |
| 13:11.34 | cncfanatics | it redownloads all most important files of wow |
| 13:11.40 | cncfanatics | so it downloads quite a lot yea |
| 13:11.54 | Fisker- | condidate? |
| 13:11.55 | sleep|raider | but why dont it say like 300mb of 600 if thats the case |
| 13:12.15 | cncfanatics | prolly cuz it doesnt know itself how much its gonna have to download ? |
| 13:12.34 | sleep|raider | well why would it not be able to detect that :P |
| 13:12.40 | sleep|raider | not like its hard to code |
| 13:12.53 | cncfanatics | depends how it works |
| 13:15.06 | sleep|raider | bur baa, was suposed to raid now and i have no clue if it take 5min or 1hour |
| 13:19.11 | sleep|raider | www.borkedguild.net/blizzsucks.jpg |
| 13:20.34 | Fisker- | that's what you get for being a rogue :( |
| 13:20.41 | sleep|raider | ^^ |
| 13:28.07 | sleep|raider | zzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 13:29.03 | vithos | sleep|raider: that looks like it's just reverting your launcher.exe to an older version (lolblizz) |
| 13:29.22 | sleep|raider | huh? |
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| 13:29.42 | vithos | oh, nevermind. |
| 13:29.46 | vithos | just noticed the downloaded size |
| 13:30.00 | sleep|raider | its at 500mb now |
| 13:30.02 | vithos | it's just usually when i run repair, it downloads a small amount at the very end, then when i run the launcher it reupdates |
| 13:30.05 | sleep|raider | no idea when its done |
| 13:30.24 | vithos | wtf happened to your install? |
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| 13:30.41 | sleep|raider | got a wow error with some ne male model or soemthing |
| 13:31.01 | sleep|raider | no idea why |
| 13:31.05 | cncfanatics | linux hard lock |
| 13:31.07 | cncfanatics | weird |
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| 13:32.52 | art3mis | You were eatten by a Grue. |
| 13:33.51 | cncfanatics | and you were eaten by the guy that was eaten by a grue |
| 13:34.37 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 13:34.39 | cncfanatics | how weird |
| 13:34.43 | cncfanatics | if one disables a button on preclick |
| 13:34.48 | cncfanatics | it'll get the click event anyway at OnClick |
| 13:34.50 | cncfanatics | how silly |
| 13:36.04 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 13:36.09 | cncfanatics | if I do :Disable on PreClick() |
| 13:36.16 | cncfanatics | and :Enable on PostClick |
| 13:36.22 | cncfanatics | its the same as if I did nothing |
| 13:36.25 | cncfanatics | the click gets through anyway |
| 13:36.31 | Fisker- | lol |
| 13:36.55 | cncfanatics | quite silly imo |
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| 13:37.43 | nevcairiel | if PreClick is called, the click is already queued, no way to stop it :P |
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| 13:38.10 | cncfanatics | true enough |
| 13:38.14 | sleep|raider | This application has encountered a critical error: |
| 13:38.14 | sleep|raider | ERROR #131 (0x85100083) File Corrupt |
| 13:38.14 | sleep|raider | Program:E:\WorldofWarcraft\WoW.exe |
| 13:38.14 | sleep|raider | File:Data\common.MPQ |
| 13:38.15 | sleep|raider | File = Character\BloodElf\Male\BloodElfMaleSkin00_03.blp |
| 13:38.17 | sleep|raider | Cached Read = Decompression failed |
| 13:38.19 | cncfanatics | I'll clear action type to make sure the click doesnt get through |
| 13:38.19 | sleep|raider | Raw Read = ReadFileUnbuffered() Failed |
| 13:38.28 | cncfanatics | sleep|raider, ur gonna get kick banned doing that |
| 13:38.29 | cncfanatics | u shld use pastey |
| 13:38.33 | sleep|raider | :( |
| 13:39.18 | sleep|raider | File:Data\common.MPQ dont hope that the repair toll are dl that file again |
| 13:39.26 | sleep|raider | 4gb |
| 13:39.31 | cncfanatics | it prolly will |
| 13:39.38 | cncfanatics | I suggest reinstalling wow personaly |
| 13:39.43 | cncfanatics | its the same anyway |
| 13:42.54 | cncfanatics | any attribute to disable a button ? except setting its type to nil ? |
| 13:43.18 | cladhaire | :Disable() ? |
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| 13:43.43 | cncfanatics | I call it on PreClick |
| 13:43.50 | cncfanatics | so Disable is pointless, OnClick is already queued |
| 13:44.05 | cladhaire | then no, by definition of secure buttons. |
| 13:44.16 | cladhaire | if we're not talking secure, then I still don't know if you can do it :P |
| 13:44.23 | cncfanatics | its not in combat |
| 13:44.39 | cladhaire | then alter the attributes. |
| 13:44.41 | cncfanatics | just setting the type to nil on preclick and back to its old value on PostClick does the job to prevent the click from getting through |
| 13:44.54 | cladhaire | yes |
| 13:44.59 | cncfanatics | but there should be a better way imo |
| 13:45.10 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 13:45.38 | cncfanatics | the texture of my button updates from those same attributes |
| 13:45.45 | cncfanatics | and I dont want the texture to be messed up with disabled buttons |
| 13:46.12 | nevcairiel | why do you want to disable a button in PreClick anyway? |
| 13:46.44 | cncfanatics | I dont use actionbuttons as you know |
| 13:46.52 | cncfanatics | so if the user has an action on the cursor |
| 13:47.08 | cncfanatics | I need to switch the action on the cursor with the one on the button, without trigger a click |
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| 13:49.05 | cladhaire | does OnDragReceive trigger OnClick? |
| 13:49.22 | nevcairiel | only if you have AnyDown registered |
| 13:49.25 | nevcairiel | for clicks |
| 13:49.31 | nevcairiel | if you have AnyUp, it doesnt |
| 13:50.02 | nevcairiel | thats the main reason i use AnyUp |
| 13:50.52 | cncfanatics | DragReceive aint enough though |
| 13:51.00 | cncfanatics | a lot of users just "click" the button with an action on their cursor |
| 13:51.04 | cncfanatics | without actualy dragging |
| 13:51.17 | cncfanatics | need to handle both cases |
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| 13:53.58 | Fisker- | 1+1 = 3 |
| 13:54.54 | cncfanatics | Fisker- thats blizzard |
| 13:54.56 | [dRaCo] | fisker: given the appropriate system, yes. |
| 13:56.43 | Industrial | im boooored |
| 13:57.04 | cncfanatics | Industrial, go implent stances ? |
| 13:57.07 | cncfanatics | 10 lines of code anyway |
| 13:57.14 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r46904 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Attributes/Attributes.lua): |
| 13:57.14 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 13:57.14 | CIA-14 | Action.lua |
| 13:57.14 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.14 | CIA-14 | Attributes.lua |
| 13:57.14 | Industrial | no. |
| 13:57.15 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.17 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.24 | Industrial | moar anime |
| 13:57.26 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 13:58.02 | cncfanatics | hmmm, lacking bandwith |
| 13:58.05 | Fisker- | C-C-COMBO BREAKER |
| 13:58.07 | cncfanatics | downloaded too much this month |
| 13:58.26 | [dRaCo] | Industrial: explain theoretical informatics to me. |
| 13:58.38 | Fisker- | how do you downloaded too much? |
| 13:58.45 | Fisker- | IMPOSSIBLE |
| 13:58.54 | cncfanatics | 30 gig / month |
| 13:59.00 | cncfanatics | downloaded 3 games and about 10 albums |
| 13:59.14 | Fisker- | haha |
| 13:59.22 | Fisker- | metered bandwitdh |
| 13:59.24 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 14:04.43 | Gnarfoz | flatrates ftw |
| 14:08.43 | Gandharva | Antiarc: Omen does not reset pets for me |
| 14:10.23 | cladhaire | indeed.. shadowfiend topped my threat meters most of last night |
| 14:10.41 | Gandharva | Sometimes it shows 50k+ Threat for some pets. We have 4 Hunters ^^ |
| 14:11.17 | Gandharva | we run mixed clients enGB/deDE |
| 14:11.48 | Industrial | "i;m going to charge! crying wont help!" "noooo i dont want to end up in a courtrom sketch! T_T" |
| 14:11.51 | Industrial | lmao |
| 14:12.07 | Industrial | Sayonara zetsubou sensei' |
| 14:12.43 | haste | I told you it was awesome D: |
| 14:12.47 | Industrial | it is |
| 14:12.51 | Industrial | a train of stalkers!' |
| 14:12.55 | Industrial | that was also cool |
| 14:12.56 | Industrial | :3 |
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| 14:23.12 | CIA-14 | 03belazor * r46905 10AspectsBar/embeds.xml: |
| 14:23.12 | CIA-14 | AspectsBar: |
| 14:23.12 | CIA-14 | - Fix embeds.xml |
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| 14:32.19 | Wogroipl | 03Gandharva I have that too, after a fight the pet's threat just won't clear |
| 14:32.30 | Gngsk | pukatronic! |
| 14:33.22 | [dRaCo] | wtf, green. |
| 14:33.35 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 14:33.39 | Fisker- | please |
| 14:33.40 | kenlyric | hide! |
| 14:34.55 | Fisker- | good idea |
| 14:34.59 | Fisker- | the hunt begins |
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| 14:43.45 | Fisker- | :) |
| 14:43.49 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 14:44.22 | Punkie` | Bad news, it's a mismatched pair |
| 14:44.37 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r46906 10NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc): NextStep:fix announce func |
| 14:45.50 | Fisker- | DAMNIT |
| 14:46.50 | Punkie` | :D |
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| 14:54.13 | BankZ | Do any of you guys use notepad++ to edit lua fights? |
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| 14:56.13 | JoshBorke | lua fights?! zomg! where?! |
| 14:56.59 | JoshBorke | oh wtf |
| 14:57.00 | Nandini | my money's on the script with the __add metatable to concatenate strings |
| 14:57.04 | BankZ | lol |
| 14:57.05 | BankZ | files |
| 14:57.40 | Nandini | i use LuaEdit, but it's the only thing i've tried so far |
| 14:57.44 | Ominous | BankZ: yes |
| 14:57.59 | Nandini | it never quite made it to Lua 5.1, and it errors every time a syntax check fails |
| 14:58.29 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r46907 10NDragIt/NDragIt.lua: NDragIt: rebuild the delete list whenever you add a frame |
| 14:58.37 | BankZ | is there anything thats a lot better than notepad++? |
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| 15:00.30 | cncfanatics | long live vim |
| 15:00.48 | what-K | Hi all i have a question with bosswhisperer the addon dont work can someone help me ? |
| 15:00.48 | cncfanatics | Nandini, sorry for when I went to dinner btw |
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| 15:01.21 | Nandini | i didn't realize until i had typed about 10 lines that you were afk, i thought you were ignoring me. LOL |
| 15:01.47 | Pkekyo | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6775.380 |
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| 15:05.38 | cncfanatics | Nandini, I even said I was going afk & changed my nick :p :) |
| 15:06.48 | what-K | Hi all i have a question with bosswhisperer the addon dont work can someone help me ? |
| 15:07.36 | cncfanatics | what-K, u get any error messages ? |
| 15:08.29 | what-K | no |
| 15:08.36 | what-K | when i fight a boss |
| 15:08.45 | what-K | it dont make a dnd msg |
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| 15:10.09 | cncfanatics | are you sure you actualy installed it ? |
| 15:10.31 | what-K | yes |
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| 15:13.06 | cncfanatics | then I dunno |
| 15:13.56 | what-K | :( |
| 15:14.00 | what-K | works at u ? |
| 15:14.53 | cncfanatics | I dont use the addon |
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| 15:16.59 | ScaleMaster | anyone really good with addons? |
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| 15:26.04 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 15:26.18 | Gagorian | ... |
| 15:26.48 | ScaleMaster | :P |
| 15:27.00 | Hjalte | ScaleMaster, just ask. |
| 15:27.13 | cncfanatics | Gagorian :o |
| 15:27.21 | Gagorian | cncfanatics :O |
| 15:27.49 | cncfanatics | been a while hasnt it ? |
| 15:27.55 | ScaleMaster | haha ok :P I have looked for an addon to do this for the past month or so... but I am wanting an addon that basically gives you an audio and visual "alert" when your minimap displays a mining node.. |
| 15:28.05 | ScaleMaster | or for herbalist... an herb |
| 15:28.07 | Gagorian | cncfanatics: Indeed! |
| 15:28.37 | ScaleMaster | I know a small bit of scripting.. but couldnt find anything in the WoW addond API that would lead to that.. |
| 15:28.47 | ScaleMaster | the WoW API on wowwiki |
| 15:28.58 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 15:29.04 | cncfanatics | I have no idea if that is even possible |
| 15:29.12 | Gagorian | Yeah, I don't think it's possible |
| 15:29.14 | cncfanatics | I dont know the minimap API well enough for that |
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| 15:29.45 | ScaleMaster | darn haha |
| 15:30.04 | ScaleMaster | i wanted to be able to fly without having to look at my minimap for nodes |
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| 15:31.00 | Gnarfoz | not possilbe, sadly |
| 15:31.04 | Gnarfoz | *possible |
| 15:31.12 | Gnarfoz | the UI API doesn't know about the minimap dots :< |
| 15:31.38 | ScaleMaster | I guess they did that to stop bots or something.. :( |
| 15:31.39 | Nandini | there is an addon called trackinginfo that changes the tooltips for minimap tracking icons, but you have to mouse over a tooltip before it will do anything, it doesn't know about the tracking icons until you hover over one |
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| 15:31.45 | Gnarfoz | ScaleMaster: you think?! :D |
| 15:31.53 | Pkekyo | how many times will I have to press this macro for it to pop deathwish and both trinkets? http://ace.pastey.net/72434 |
| 15:32.22 | [dRaCo] | most trinkets put other trinkets on cd |
| 15:32.29 | [dRaCo] | if yours dont, once. |
| 15:33.37 | Nandini | also, i think there are 1 or 2 trinkets that activate the GCD (they're being fixed in the next patch), not sure if your trinkets might be one of those |
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| 15:34.38 | [dRaCo] | I'd use /use 13 /stopcasting /use 14 /stopcasting /cast Deathwish, btw... |
| 15:35.09 | what-K | please can someone help me with the addon bosswhisperer |
| 15:35.16 | sylvanaar | there is a mod somewhere that shrinks your minimap down real small and puts it under your mouse |
| 15:36.15 | Nandini | hmm in that case, your mouse would always be over EVERY tracking icon displayed on the map, and you could play a sound whenever a tooltip is displayed |
| 15:36.34 | cncfanatics | but you lose your minimap |
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| 15:39.23 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: why'd you do that? |
| 15:39.56 | [dRaCo] | Deathwish triggers the gcd, doesnt it? |
| 15:40.27 | cncfanatics | ofc it doesn't |
| 15:40.39 | cncfanatics | its a spell that affects spells that follow after |
| 15:40.44 | cncfanatics | and thus dsnt follow the GCD rules |
| 15:40.56 | cncfanatics | btw, any way to find the cooldown left on a macro ? |
| 15:40.59 | [dRaCo] | aight... nvm then. |
| 15:41.08 | cncfanatics | need to find how much cooldown is left on a macro |
| 15:41.12 | [dRaCo] | not w/o scripting, afaik |
| 15:41.45 | cncfanatics | god that sucks hard |
| 15:42.30 | Nandini | cooldown on what part of a macro? imagine determining the cooldown on the aforementioned macro. 2 trinkets with separate cooldowns and a spell with a third cooldown |
| 15:42.30 | Wobin | what-K: What about it? |
| 15:42.42 | what-K | it dont work at me :( |
| 15:42.57 | what-K | when i fight a boss it dont set me dnd |
| 15:43.11 | cncfanatics | Nandini, whatever GetActionCooldown on the macro's action Id would show |
| 15:43.14 | Wobin | hm |
| 15:43.16 | cncfanatics | except in this case, I have no action id |
| 15:43.36 | Wobin | what-K: Can't really help except suggest you use HeyFu, which has something similar, although it's not autoset to DnD |
| 15:43.57 | what-K | can that the same ? |
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| 15:44.32 | Wobin | You can set a message |
| 15:44.36 | cncfanatics | Nandini, any ideas ? wowwiki couldnt get me any :( |
| 15:44.40 | Wobin | and it'll autoreply to that person with that message |
| 15:44.55 | Wobin | as soon as you uncheck the DnD option, it'll give you a listing of all the tells |
| 15:45.36 | ScaleMaster | is there a way to load new addons while you are ingame? |
| 15:45.45 | cncfanatics | ScaleMaster, no |
| 15:45.46 | ScaleMaster | or do you hvae to close it out.. |
| 15:45.47 | ScaleMaster | bleh |
| 15:45.48 | Nandini | the only thing i can think of is you would have to parse the macro yourself, finding the spell or item that is next, and determining its cooldown |
| 15:46.11 | cncfanatics | Nandini, is the code that blizzard uses for that findable somewhere ? |
| 15:46.50 | Nandini | i honestly don't know, it's not something i've ever looked for |
| 15:47.13 | Thorgard | Hmm. |
| 15:47.16 | Nandini | (and i may be completely off-base anyway) |
| 15:47.29 | Thorgard | What's a good DoT/HoT-tracking addon? |
| 15:47.33 | cncfanatics | chronomoeter |
| 15:47.41 | cncfanatics | s/chronomoeter/chronometer/ |
| 15:48.13 | TNSe | s/lol/haha |
| 15:48.35 | TNSe | eww, too much logic in that bot. |
| 15:48.47 | cncfanatics | ~shoot TNSe |
| 15:48.49 | purl | ACTION shoots TNSe in the eye with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 15:50.38 | cncfanatics | any US person here to post some stuff on forums for meh ? |
| 15:51.03 | Zeksie | anyone had any issues with certain types of overlapping frames causing some frame latency when it gets to the UI renderer? |
| 15:51.17 | Zeksie | trying to nail down what exactly causes it. |
| 15:51.29 | Nandini | Zeksie: be more specific, what frames, or what types of frames? |
| 15:51.55 | Nandini | I have latency (lose fps) when a model, charactermodel, or dressup frame gets overlapped |
| 15:52.19 | Zeksie | in X-Perl, the raid frames. the edges use the default tooltip border, and this extends a couple of pixels past the visible, so they overlap about 4 pixels to line up nicely. but this causes a good 1/5th second lag whne there's more than say 10 raid members |
| 15:52.25 | what-K | Wobin is heyfu a ace addon ? |
| 15:52.29 | Zeksie | move the raid frames apart, and there's none at all |
| 15:52.46 | Wobin | FuBar_HeyFu |
| 15:52.54 | what-K | thx |
| 15:53.02 | what-K | it works without fubar ß |
| 15:53.06 | Zeksie | i profiled everyhing, and it's 100% not the fault of any mod code. |
| 15:53.15 | Ordog | some us resident here with experience in rootds rent offers? we are searching for a good host in US badly :) |
| 15:53.17 | Zeksie | it happens after the onupdate, but before the frame is drawn |
| 15:53.28 | Nandini | i hadn't noticed that zeksi, but i always space my x-perl raid frames apart a bit |
| 15:53.48 | Zeksie | yeh. a lot do. and it won't happen to everyone. and didn't happen for me till 2 nights ago |
| 15:53.58 | Zeksie | it has a lot to do with how many other frames there are, ui memory etc |
| 15:54.13 | Zeksie | seems to be complex overlapping frames with mouse regions |
| 15:54.36 | Zeksie | possible to do with determinine mouse click areas when frames change level. but i can't be certain yet |
| 15:54.54 | Zeksie | it's ticking me off :) |
| 15:56.26 | Zeksie | i'd not adjust the frames at all, but they're all dependant off that damned secure template stuff. |
| 15:56.48 | Zeksie | somoene zones and you get a roster_update... why!? for the love of god, split up that event |
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| 16:00.32 | cncfanatics | Zeksie, check the args ? |
| 16:02.03 | cncfanatics | anyone here based in the US that can send a forum message on blizz forums for me ? -.- |
| 16:02.19 | [dRaCo] | I'm EU, sorry. |
| 16:02.40 | cncfanatics | WTB US player :p |
| 16:02.44 | cncfanatics | need Slouken to fix some stoof |
| 16:02.48 | cncfanatics | (if he wants to -.-) |
| 16:03.36 | Zeksie | cnc, been going through all the frame properties and trying tonnes of stuff to see if it's related to a specific type of frame (moveable, clickable etc.). but it's a time-consuming task :) |
| 16:05.40 | cncfanatics | Secure stuff sucks |
| 16:05.44 | cncfanatics | I have lots of issues with it myself |
| 16:05.47 | cncfanatics | shitty limitations |
| 16:06.20 | Zeksie | totally un-optimized too. rebuilds the frame list so many times it makes me cry |
| 16:06.33 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46908 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 16:06.33 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 16:06.33 | CIA-14 | - prohibited attachment of the default chat window to something because tabs caused problems |
| 16:06.33 | CIA-14 | - fix for min-/maximization locking |
| 16:07.07 | cncfanatics | I need to find a way to find out cooldown macro |
| 16:07.13 | cncfanatics | of course, thats nowhere to be found |
| 16:07.16 | cncfanatics | macro cooldown* |
| 16:08.24 | what-K | can someone who knows good in wow scripting the addon Bosswhisperer and look why it dont work at the german client |
| 16:09.28 | what-K | Zeksie u are the maker of x-perl ? |
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| 16:10.17 | Fisker- | Punkie` :( |
| 16:10.26 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, tell me ur US |
| 16:10.36 | Fisker- | no |
| 16:10.40 | Fisker- | i won't |
| 16:10.55 | cncfanatics | are you ? |
| 16:11.00 | Fisker- | no :( |
| 16:11.03 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 16:11.07 | cncfanatics | someone ? :( |
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| 16:16.26 | cncfanatics | svn slow today ? |
| 16:17.05 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r46909 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua EventManager/EventManager.lua): |
| 16:17.05 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 16:17.05 | CIA-14 | Action.lua |
| 16:17.05 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.05 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:17.08 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:20.16 | bwoodruff | Hi, sorry, this may be a "stupid question" - but I'm a returning WoW player, and back in the day all I had to do to download an addon from Ace was svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/<addon here> |
| 16:20.23 | bwoodruff | That doesn't seem to work anymore? |
| 16:21.00 | mikma | seems to be down or slow |
| 16:21.12 | [dRaCo] | http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 16:21.17 | bwoodruff | Ok, but thats still an acceptable way to do it? |
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| 16:21.26 | [dRaCo] | works and has all the latest versions. |
| 16:21.38 | TNSe | bwoodruff, theres a seperate program that does that for you now |
| 16:21.43 | TNSe | wowace updater |
| 16:21.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 16:21.57 | rubik | you prolly don't want to "svn co" each time.. if you insist on doing it via svn, i'd use "svn up" |
| 16:21.59 | bwoodruff | Ok cool, is there an OS X version? |
| 16:22.13 | nevcairiel | there is a java version |
| 16:22.17 | nevcairiel | not sure how good it works yet |
| 16:22.34 | nevcairiel | and there is MacAceUpdater or something |
| 16:22.48 | nevcairiel | http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/ |
| 16:22.50 | rubik | http://wowace.com/wau2 is the java WoW Ace updater thing |
| 16:23.12 | bwoodruff | Thanks I'll check it out |
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| 16:26.28 | Keya | you might just want to download the addons from files.wowace.com |
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| 16:38.58 | Zeksie | @what-k. yes. sorry. isp burped. |
| 16:38.58 | Hjalte | I am very new to PVP - In a battleground, do i get extra honour for HK? Flag returns? Killing Blows? |
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| 16:41.04 | what-K | Zeksie np i love ur addon but can u explain me why the debuff symbol in my party frame so big is ? |
| 16:45.02 | Zeksie | well, they're sizable. change to your preferance. some ppl like em big for curing etc. |
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| 16:49.03 | bwoodruff | Hjalte: You get honor for HKs that you are near, yes. I don't think you get anything extra if you personally get flag returns or killing blows, but obviously that helps your team win, which gets you honor. |
| 16:49.17 | what-K | yes but i dont se them because they are big and i cant see the party ppl |
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| 16:57.32 | Fisker- | Punkie` :( |
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| 17:05.21 | Funkeh` | anyone used UnitDebuff recently can tell me if its 3rd return(texture) returns then full path |
| 17:06.07 | nevcairiel | yes full path |
| 17:06.15 | nevcairiel | Interface\\Icons\\.. |
| 17:07.01 | Funkeh` | is that the same on all locales or is that translated? |
| 17:07.07 | nevcairiel | its a path |
| 17:07.11 | nevcairiel | how can that be translated ? :P |
| 17:07.25 | Funkeh` | interface//icons dunno ;p |
| 17:07.54 | Megalon | :C |
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| 17:26.17 | Speeddymon | is svn down? |
| 17:26.41 | Cidan | Only if you talk to it nicely and pay it well. |
| 17:29.14 | Amadeo | Linux distributions are confusing |
| 17:30.08 | Amadeo | It's cool that they have package management and repositories so that you can get most stuff, but why does it have to be so damn old? Compiling your own works, but it's a pain in the ass, and they don't recommend it due to the fact that it's outside of the package management! |
| 17:32.46 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, u can make ur own packages ? |
| 17:32.54 | cncfanatics | at least, its easy in debian |
| 17:33.36 | haste | Amadeo: ever attempted to maintain packages :p ? |
| 17:33.38 | Amadeo | I don't know why they can't just update the apps in the repositories most often |
| 17:33.45 | Amadeo | Especially the extremely popular ones |
| 17:33.54 | Amadeo | haste: I'd hope there's more than one person doing it :) |
| 17:34.16 | haste | yeh, but with the numbers of apps and so on, there will always be a lack of people |
| 17:34.34 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, what distro u on ? |
| 17:34.38 | Amadeo | Like Ubuntu has Gaim version 2.0.0 beta 6, isn't it logical that they put Pidgin 2.1.0 in the repository? |
| 17:34.42 | Speeddymon | is svn down? someone? |
| 17:34.42 | Amadeo | instead of using a beta? |
| 17:34.57 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, debian unstable has the pidgin 2.1.0 |
| 17:35.00 | cncfanatics | using it right now |
| 17:35.07 | Amadeo | cncfanatics: I jump around a lot, I'm never satisfied :) |
| 17:35.15 | cncfanatics | go get a debian box :p |
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| 17:36.14 | kergoth | Amadeo, what vversion of ubuntu? have you tried pulling pidgin out of gutsy? |
| 17:36.28 | Amadeo | Whatever the release is, 7.04 I guess? |
| 17:37.10 | kergoth | then no shit its old. releases primarily get bugfixes, not major app updates that could introduce more bugs. try pulling new packages from the upcoming releases, the equivalent of debian unstable, instead. |
| 17:37.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:37.34 | Amadeo | I would imagine that betas would mean bugs :P |
| 17:38.53 | Pkekyo | http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2793/wowscrnshot081807173818at2.jpg <--- AkrInventory there, how can I get rid of the few lines with the default button background so it's in style with everything else? |
| 17:39.54 | Amadeo | Right now I'm trying to find a distribution that's going to run WoW better for me :P |
| 17:40.05 | rubik | winxp? :P |
| 17:40.13 | Amadeo | Yeah, that's it so far |
| 17:41.48 | rubik | i need to make the switch to one of them fancy category-based bag mods |
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| 17:42.03 | rubik | been using OneBag forever now... |
| 17:42.29 | Yssaril | Pkekyo: isnt there a border option somwhere? |
| 17:43.44 | Pkekyo | Yssaril: yes, but it's not only aborder, there's a background there as well, and neither of them seem to have an option for setting alpha |
| 17:43.56 | Yssaril | hmmmm |
| 17:44.44 | Pkekyo | I need Ark's sorting function, combined with OneBag's not-fugly-piece-of-shit-texture-you-can't-hide feature |
| 17:45.19 | rubik | lol.. yeah, i <3 OneBag.. it's been good to me. |
| 17:45.32 | Pkekyo | same, but the sorting function in Ark is awesome |
| 17:46.35 | rubik | wasn't Antiarc working on a bag mod too (not Sanity2).. SanityBags or something? |
| 17:46.47 | Hjalte | rubik, there's also Baggins. |
| 17:48.04 | Nandini | so many options, it makes you wonder if everyone had "worked together" if they could have developed one addon that has the best features of each |
| 17:48.32 | Nandini | i know "worked together" is not as easy as it sounds |
| 17:49.45 | Pkekyo | what are the pros for using KTM Threat Meter? (don't spam me about omen) |
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| 17:50.05 | [dRaCo] | none. |
| 17:50.06 | rubik | *crickets* |
| 17:50.06 | [dRaCo] | :> |
| 17:50.08 | Azurewrath | can't thinkg about any.. |
| 17:50.14 | Azurewrath | *think |
| 17:50.34 | Nandini | what do you mean pros? as compared to what, if you don't want spammed about omen/threat-1.0? |
| 17:51.01 | Pkekyo | Nandini: trying to write an objective article about Omen vs. KTM and each's pros and cons |
| 17:51.38 | ulic | pro or con to both, they are only useful if you're tank is running the same one :) |
| 17:51.39 | Pkekyo | the only thing I've come up with as a pro for KTM is the master target function |
| 17:51.50 | Yssaril | KTM is not in beta still but thats about it :P |
| 17:51.56 | Nandini | you might say KTM has a longer development history and a larger installed user base |
| 17:52.03 | rubik | yeah |
| 17:52.11 | rubik | what Nandini said |
| 17:52.17 | Yssaril | Omen dosnt need MTarget function since it has seperate tables anyways |
| 17:52.21 | snurre | but thats completely irrelevant if the other alternative is fully compatible |
| 17:52.49 | Pkekyo | snurre: was about to say that |
| 17:52.49 | Pkekyo | Yssaril: doesn't Omen still struggle with multiple targets with identical names? |
| 17:52.55 | Speeddymon | damnit.. why does svn not like me?! it alwasy goes down right before im about to commit |
| 17:53.06 | Yssaril | yes but same thing happens with the Master Target function |
| 17:53.19 | Yssaril | it is jsut that the MT function is generally only used on bosses |
| 17:53.37 | Yssaril | as such naming isnt an issue for either addon |
| 17:53.39 | ulic | MT is worse, because it only tracks for a single target, no matter what, I believe. |
| 17:53.40 | rubik | blizzard limitation, not omen's.. not being able to differentiate same-name targets |
| 17:54.02 | Yssaril | 2.4 they will give us NPCid's in the combat log woot |
| 17:54.07 | Nandini | that might change in 2.4 according to some developer chat at blizzcon tho |
| 17:54.13 | rubik | whoa.. really? |
| 17:54.17 | ulic | I'd rather have threat for all targets named Bob, than just ALL targets. |
| 17:54.17 | Yssaril | yep |
| 17:54.48 | Pkekyo | anyone got any decent cons about KTM as well? |
| 17:55.25 | [dRaCo] | omgwtfmemoryhog? |
| 17:55.28 | Nandini | one "con" with KTM is the same as its pros, it has a longer development history and a larger user base |
| 17:55.30 | Yssaril | MTarget is limited to one mob as such is usless for say morroes where you have 5 mobs running around in the beginning |
| 17:55.42 | rubik | resource hog, can't be hidden at times, frustratingly trivial config menus, etc. |
| 17:55.57 | ulic | last I checked KTM will eat cpu cycles when just sitting afk in IF :) |
| 17:56.07 | Nandini | meaning there is a degree of built-in resistance toward major changes in functionality |
| 17:56.16 | rubik | yes.. that's a big one.. runs in the bg while you're not raiding/fighting |
| 17:56.41 | Nandini | because you DO so dearly need those CPU cycles when you're not raiding or fighting :P |
| 17:56.53 | rubik | :P |
| 17:56.54 | Pkekyo | current list of cons: Slow threat value updating, relatively high resource usage, not directly compatible with any alternative, fugly as hell (highly subjective), incapable of tracking threat on multible targets when Master Target is enabled, no options to be hidden when not needed, extremely bad design on configuration menues |
| 17:57.46 | Gngsk | not Ace2! |
| 17:57.47 | [dRaCo] | Nandini: threat is pretty useless in AB or WSG |
| 17:57.49 | Nandini | umm... "not directly compatible with any alternative"... there has never been an alternative until recently, and that alternative still calls itself "beta" |
| 17:57.58 | rubik | also a con should be "author hates Omen and will not co-operate to share data between addons" |
| 17:58.30 | nevcairiel | that "beta" works better then ktm :P |
| 17:58.38 | Pkekyo | Gngsk: not a real argument, as being labeled ace2 does not automaticly make an addon better than an alternative |
| 17:59.02 | Nandini | my point is, why would the author of KTM feel compelled to add support for something that is not yet finalized? |
| 17:59.06 | rubik | hell, gmail has been in beta for how many years now? it works fine.. |
| 17:59.08 | Gngsk | behold, the super sarcastic exclamation point! |
| 17:59.21 | nevcairiel | no piece of software is finalized, ever |
| 17:59.22 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:00.03 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 18:00.06 | nevcairiel | but if you want to track changes to Threat-1.0/Omen .. they died down alot in the last weeks |
| 18:00.11 | nevcairiel | which basicly means, no pressing bugs to fix |
| 18:00.15 | Nandini | no, but there are stable releases, is there a release of omen+threat-1.0 available on any other "release sites"? |
| 18:00.24 | rubik | Nandini: the pint is, the KTM author has gone out of his way to BLOCK interacting with Omen |
| 18:00.46 | rubik | or rather keeps trying to make KTM not share its data with Omen |
| 18:01.14 | Nandini | is that a drawback of KTM? it's only a drawback of using KTM in a mixed environment |
| 18:01.44 | rubik | nobody is asking/expecting him to update KTM to read Omen's data.. just not blocking the other way around |
| 18:02.03 | rubik | is it a drawback of KTM that its author is a jackass? dunno.. to me? yes. |
| 18:02.17 | nevcairiel | i agree with rubik |
| 18:02.34 | nevcairiel | If i know that the author of a piece of software is a moron, and i have an alternative, i use that :P |
| 18:02.40 | Pkekyo | Nandini: that is a CLEAR drawback, as a certain software should not be -enforced- upon players, when there's an equally good alternative |
| 18:02.40 | rubik | hehe |
| 18:02.50 | ckknight | equally? |
| 18:02.52 | ckknight | please. |
| 18:02.56 | ckknight | :-P |
| 18:02.57 | Zeksie | was gonna say ;) |
| 18:03.09 | nevcairiel | Our guild enforces Omen to all members. |
| 18:03.16 | Zeksie | same |
| 18:03.24 | ckknight | Gngsk: are you gonna be angry at me when I make addons that aren't Ace2? |
| 18:03.26 | Pkekyo | ckknight: you mean omen is worse or better? |
| 18:03.32 | Yssaril | hehe i also made my guild swithc to omen :) |
| 18:03.35 | ckknight | better, imho |
| 18:03.40 | ckknight | in so many ways |
| 18:03.44 | Nandini | most guilds do make a choice of one or other, which makes a comparison of pros and cons for raiding rather pointless |
| 18:04.10 | Nandini | but i guess there would be pros and cons in a 5-man setting |
| 18:04.12 | Pkekyo | ckknight: I agree, but trying to make this article seem like more than just commercial for Omen :P |
| 18:04.23 | nevcairiel | Omen works for multiple mobs with different names, last time i checked KTM didnt, which is a very big drawback |
| 18:04.29 | ckknight | Pkekyo: *shrug* |
| 18:04.34 | Nandini | that's already been mentioned as one con for KTM |
| 18:04.50 | ckknight | memory/cpu/fps usage wtf |
| 18:04.50 | Nandini | although their jackass author says it's in the works. heheh |
| 18:05.01 | ckknight | as well as the author's refusal to accept statistics |
| 18:05.12 | nevcairiel | the cpu usage of KTM is insane |
| 18:05.16 | Zeksie | ktm is a hog. |
| 18:05.20 | nevcairiel | people claim i dont need my CPU when i idle in if |
| 18:05.22 | nevcairiel | maybe so |
| 18:05.25 | nevcairiel | but i need it when i fight |
| 18:05.49 | nevcairiel | and it still uses way too much :P |
| 18:06.00 | Pkekyo | if Omen hogs less CPU when idling, it will also, most likely, hog less when fighting as well |
| 18:06.02 | Zeksie | i expect you want ur cpu when idle in if cos of the other 500 ppl idle in if... |
| 18:06.42 | Nandini | Pkekyo, what is the intention of your article? Who is the audience? What do you want them to take away from it? |
| 18:07.51 | Nandini | If you have even the slightest notion that people should abandon KTM and switch to Omen, it would be best to write your article honestly with points supporting that opinion. |
| 18:07.56 | Diao | lol |
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| 18:08.11 | Nandini | Rather than pretending to present a simple objective comparison. |
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| 18:08.11 | Pkekyo | Nandini: pretty much just wanna get my guild to reroll Omen to begin with, then might release it to a larger audience |
| 18:08.35 | Nandini | In that case, don't be neutral, be honest. |
| 18:08.37 | rubik | oh.. all it took for my guild to do that was for me to make a post in our forum |
| 18:09.06 | Pkekyo | Nandini: I'm not trying to be neutral, I'm trying to be -objective-... "omen r teh winz0r, ktm suxx" just won't cut it :P |
| 18:09.07 | rubik | "Everyone go download Omen and delete KTM immediately. You will not be allowed to raid without Omen." |
| 18:09.10 | Nandini | For your guild, the biggest (and probably only) pro for KTM is its comfort factor. |
| 18:09.11 | nevcairiel | i wrote a simple artical last year to switch people to ace based mods |
| 18:09.17 | nevcairiel | basicly that i can support them more :P |
| 18:09.24 | nevcairiel | and well, some are simply better written^^ |
| 18:09.40 | Nandini | Omen can do everything KTM does, and more. And it is less resource-intensive in doing so. |
| 18:09.47 | rubik | and once people started downloading Omen, one by one, I'd see posts "OMG.. Omen looks/is so much nicer" |
| 18:10.03 | Nandini | Those are really the only two points you need to make. |
| 18:10.32 | Nandini | Yes, this is new and different, that makes it scary. But try it, you'll like it. (Also, we have candy in the van.) |
| 18:10.51 | rubik | and koolaid |
| 18:11.08 | Punkie` | where is this article anyway :P |
| 18:11.40 | Tinhay | Hmm, does omen know how to handle the bloodboil knockback yet? |
| 18:11.46 | Nandini | If your guild has survived this long on KTM, it's obvious they don't NEED more features. They could continue to survive with KTM. |
| 18:11.48 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: will stay at guild forums for now, as I'll keep updating it with how several other addons work compared to their 'competition' |
| 18:11.48 | rubik | i'd chip in to register ktmsucks.com to put up the article on.. :P |
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| 18:12.12 | Pkekyo | Nandini: just about half the guild has switched to Omen, writing this to convince the rest of the peeps to come along to the darkside and have some cookies with us |
| 18:12.30 | Nandini | Your guild officers just need to mandate it. End of story. |
| 18:13.05 | Nandini | Having half use KTM and half use Omen can do more harm than good, the way KTM currently operates. |
| 18:13.23 | nevcairiel | a mixed environment is really bad |
| 18:13.26 | Pkekyo | Nandini: won't happen, it's 'not that kind of guild', so to speak |
| 18:13.34 | Nandini | Perhaps you should ask your guild mates who haven't made the switch what their personal objections are, then you could address them individually. |
| 18:13.53 | Nandini | Otherwise you may completely miss their point of view. |
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| 18:14.05 | Pkekyo | Nandini: was going to ask for opinions, PoVs etc in the forum post |
| 18:14.27 | rubik | that's the thing.. i can only see "laziness" as the #1 reason half the guild hasn't switched.. there can't be other reasons? |
| 18:14.51 | Nandini | People may be reluctant to answer in the forum, where they may be seen as "holding back" the rest of the guild by not switching. |
| 18:15.03 | Azurewrath | just force them to install Omen, done :) |
| 18:15.21 | Nandini | Talk to a couple people in-game privately, find out if they use KTM, ask if they've tried Omen, and ask why they stick with KTM. |
| 18:15.46 | Nandini | Then you'll have some ideas to address in your forum post. |
| 18:16.36 | Nandini | (This assumes all your guild members regularly read and respond in your forums.) |
| 18:16.44 | Pkekyo | Nandini: again, it's 'not that kind of a guild', it's all in friendly spirit etc, and noone is even thinking of the ones using KTM as holding the rest back...it's a very casual guild |
| 18:16.44 | Azurewrath | Nandini: it's always the same... the Users are lazy and not interested in Addons.. they won't care about any Forum Posts regarding that topic.. the only thing that helped for us was "Install Omen and BigWigs, or no Raid for you." |
| 18:16.59 | Nandini | I agree Azurewrath. |
| 18:17.21 | rubik | <-- in a casual guild.. a lot of that rings so true |
| 18:17.43 | rubik | hell, we have 90% of our players not bothering to read the forums (once a week) |
| 18:17.58 | evl | Those fucking Phoenix-Hawk Hatchling pulls, what's the trick? :P |
| 18:18.08 | Nandini | Oh, here's a pro for lazy users, you can fire up WAU and update Threat-1.0 and Omen automatically, not so easy with KTM. |
| 18:18.14 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r46910 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Thaddius: *Possible* fix for ThaddiusArrows module, could also break everything |
| 18:18.15 | Pkekyo | well, just gonna finish it and post it and see how it goes...if there's a low 'turn-out' in the thread, we might pop a GMotD or something for it |
| 18:19.03 | rubik | sounds like a plan.. good luck |
| 18:19.36 | Nandini | It sounds like you don't need to convince people that Omen+Threat is better, you just need to convince them to install an addon and keep it updated. |
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| 18:21.51 | Nandini | It also sounds like the cutting-edge members in your guild have upset the status quo by switching one addon out for another, so you need to consider, whose fault is it really that everyone has extra work to do now? :) |
| 18:23.31 | Nandini | Some people have an if-it-ain't-broke-don't-fix-it mentality, and as long as you were all using it, KTM wasn't broken. |
| 18:23.58 | rubik | blame canada |
| 18:24.08 | Pkekyo | tbh, my guild doesn't really have any cutting-edge members... |
| 18:24.08 | Pkekyo | just one of them realized there was a new threat meter out there and wanted to try it...then discovered that they liked it, and said, hey, try Omen, tell me what you think eh? |
| 18:24.36 | Nandini | Yup, Canada is almost singlehandedly at fault for the slow adoption of Vista. After all, XPsp2 ain't broke! |
| 18:25.00 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 18:25.37 | Pkekyo | <--- still running SP2 'cause I just can't be arsed with all those fancypants effects they added to try to 'compete' with OS X :> |
| 18:25.48 | Nandini | You may wish to purge any wayward Canadians from your guild. They can be sneaky though and often masquerade as Americans or Brits, tho. |
| 18:25.48 | rubik | i thought microsoft is responsible for slow adoption of vista (i.e. cause it sucks) |
| 18:26.12 | Pkekyo | Nandini: EU server ^^ |
| 18:27.52 | Nandini | In that case, it may be the French. They can be quite subversive, you know. :) |
| 18:28.05 | Nandini | I think they may be related to Canadians, by way of Quebec. |
| 18:28.42 | Pkekyo | sigh...some dickwad on warrior forums screaming for an intercept nerf |
| 18:29.03 | Pkekyo | but feral charge at half the rage cost and half the cooldown time, he's absolutely fine with... |
| 18:29.11 | Nandini | Eek that's not good, if that happens, there will be a call for a feral charge nerf. |
| 18:29.59 | Nandini | I like my feral charge, even though I often stop short of being able to actually hit the target I just charged. |
| 18:30.05 | rubik | feral charge == one of the funnest things i enjoy about tanking with my druid vs. my warrior tank |
| 18:30.15 | rubik | Nandini: that part blows, yeah |
| 18:30.24 | Pkekyo | Nandini: he wants it on a 5min cooldown like sprint, with the stun effect removed |
| 18:30.39 | Nandini | That can't really be a warrior. |
| 18:30.40 | rubik | it's analogous to the warrior charging and ending up facing whichever way BUT at the target |
| 18:30.54 | Pkekyo | Nandini: he doesn't dare to post on his main...lvl 4 priest |
| 18:31.48 | rubik | 5 minute cooldown.. lol |
| 18:31.57 | Nandini | I wouldn't be opposed to shortening the CD on sprint and dash for rogues and druids, but perhaps also shortening its effect. |
| 18:32.01 | Pkekyo | and some lvl 50 orc warr from norway is now rambling on about how Arthas joined the undead scourge and became the Lich King, to make warriors feel ok with a 2h tanking class wearing plate :> |
| 18:32.26 | Pkekyo | Nandini: indeed...but 5min cooldown on intercept? kiting and CC is hard enough to counter as it is |
| 18:32.40 | ckknight | woo, I documented the LibJokerConfig-1.0 table spec |
| 18:32.43 | ckknight | http://wowace.com/wiki/LibJokerConfig-1.0 |
| 18:32.54 | Pkekyo | congrats! |
| 18:34.15 | Yssaril | looks pretty sweet ckknight |
| 18:34.21 | Nandini | umm, number always requires a range? |
| 18:34.36 | ckknight | Nandini: yea |
| 18:34.39 | Nandini | just for validation purposes i assume |
| 18:34.47 | ckknight | and to show the slider for it |
| 18:34.55 | Nandini | number always has a slider? |
| 18:35.05 | ckknight | sure does. |
| 18:35.29 | Yssaril | also has an input box i hope right? |
| 18:35.47 | ckknight | oh yes. |
| 18:36.02 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather nohappy |
| 18:36.05 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Nohappy, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (13/0/48). 12373 HP; 13238 Armour; 754 AP; 123.4 Melee DPS; 9.76% melee crit; 30 melee hit; 312 defense; 15.18% dodge; 20.48% block; 51 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1279 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/295w4z ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ud889 ]] |
| 18:36.12 | ckknight | is SVN down? |
| 18:36.13 | Pkekyo | gah, bastard specced prot |
| 18:36.43 | rubik | hrmm.. no x/5/40+? |
| 18:36.53 | Nandini | i notice many of the type names are equivalent to certain Lua types |
| 18:36.53 | Yssaril | am jsut learning about tooltips and am currently anchoring it like this YGS_Infotip:SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_CURSOR") how do i anchor the bottomleft of the tooltip to the curser instead of the bottom center? |
| 18:36.58 | Fisker- | ckknight |
| 18:36.58 | Pkekyo | yeah, odd he didn't take cruelty |
| 18:37.02 | ckknight | Nandini: yep. |
| 18:37.04 | ckknight | Fisker-: what? |
| 18:37.11 | Fisker- | it looks like my healing in parrot shows as percent on enslaved pets |
| 18:37.21 | durcyn | that's not parrot |
| 18:37.26 | Fisker- | ok |
| 18:37.28 | durcyn | enslaved pets show as 1-100 |
| 18:37.29 | Nandini | ckknight: can that lead to possible ambiguity in reading code? (not writing it, necessarily) |
| 18:37.31 | Fisker- | :/ |
| 18:37.43 | ckknight | Nandini: reading where? |
| 18:37.43 | Fisker- | any chance to make it show % then? |
| 18:37.48 | Fisker- | i thought my paladin was bugged :P |
| 18:37.56 | durcyn | nope, it's the base ui's fault |
| 18:38.04 | Nandini | just saying if i'm doing a find and replace for "number" or "boolean" or something |
| 18:38.17 | ckknight | normally you wouldn't do that... |
| 18:38.36 | ckknight | either way, it'd always be type = 'whateverType' |
| 18:39.28 | Nandini | and the type of the value stored in that type equals the name of the type in many cases |
| 18:40.06 | ckknight | yea |
| 18:40.16 | ckknight | on purpose :-P |
| 18:40.31 | Nandini | i'm not sure if that will make it simpler or more confusing for new developers is all |
| 18:40.32 | ckknight | really, I don't see the situation you're describing as a real-life problem |
| 18:40.35 | Nandini | i suppose i would have to try it |
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| 18:41.06 | Nandini | unfortunately, us new developers often start off wrong and don't take a real-life approach. LOL |
| 18:42.12 | Pkekyo | meh, I've run out of dailies to do :< |
| 18:42.14 | Nandini | we see "number" in one spot and see if type(MyConfigValue) == "number" in another spot and could get confused |
| 18:43.20 | Nandini | since your option types are designed only to be used in LJC's graphical config, have you considered naming their types something that is more representative of the control that will be rendered for them? |
| 18:44.30 | Nandini | i.e., numberSlider (numericSlider, slider), checkbox, singleselectlist, multiselectlist |
| 18:44.52 | Nandini | textbox vs. string |
| 18:45.23 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r46911 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add the spec to the top of the file, which should match the wiki |
| 18:45.49 | Nandini | since some people will likely be thinking in terms of the GUI that will be presented for their options, it might be more intuitive for them |
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| 18:46.56 | Pkekyo | well, I'm gonna call it a day...g'nite all |
| 18:47.01 | Nandini | i admit, i still think that way, as the type describing the control, rather than the value |
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| 18:49.41 | Yssaril | >am just learning about tool tips and am currently anchoring it like this YGS_Infotip:SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_CURSOR") how do i anchor the bottom left of the tool tip to the curser instead of the bottom center? |
| 18:50.57 | ckknight | Nandini: frankly, I think that the type = luaType is fine |
| 18:52.03 | Nandini | then a case could be made for the execute type being named "function" couldn't it? |
| 18:52.42 | Nandini | since you're trying to use the types to describe the value, not what the values do |
| 18:55.01 | ckknight | no |
| 18:55.05 | ckknight | since it doesn't represent a function |
| 18:55.11 | ckknight | you're not setting or getting a function |
| 18:55.13 | ckknight | you're calling it |
| 18:56.24 | Nandini | true, and you've very cleverly avoided calling your configTable an optionTable, I was about to complain that execute is not an option :) |
| 18:56.29 | Cryect | ckknight: curious is parser-3.0 supposed to take ~15 ms to register an event? |
| 18:56.53 | ckknight | not that long... |
| 18:57.09 | ckknight | it does create a function and such |
| 18:57.09 | Cryect | something seems strange noticed relog was taking long to go on standby or come off |
| 18:57.21 | Cryect | taking ~300 ms per enable |
| 18:57.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 18:57.31 | ckknight | that seems a bit odd. |
| 18:57.36 | Cryect | yeah |
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| 18:57.50 | Cryect | its really bad if I enable profiling |
| 18:57.53 | Cryect | goes up 3 seconds |
| 18:58.24 | ckknight | and does it blame Parser-3.0? |
| 18:59.18 | Zeksie | hard to tell who's to blame unless you have all ace lib parts loaded seperately as their own mod. rather than loaded with others. |
| 18:59.23 | Cryect | I think it might let me do a quick test I seem to recall Parser-3.0 seemed really high cpu usage right after a reload prolly due to that |
| 19:00.04 | Cryect | I was using times from expo when I was optimizing performance and memory |
| 19:00.12 | Cryect | and noticed that one seemed kinda strange |
| 19:01.05 | Cryect | Here's the function I'm using for registering all the events http://ace.pastey.net/72441 |
| 19:01.32 | Zeksie | would test it several times tho. could have just been a garbage collect or something. |
| 19:01.36 | Cryect | yeah right after a reload Parser-3.0 is unusually high |
| 19:01.56 | Cryect | I have zeksie, real simple I just have to do /relog standby a couple times |
| 19:02.18 | Cryect | and garbagecollect isn't that long normally |
| 19:02.48 | Cryect | Averaging 3 seconds again to enable with profiling back on |
| 19:03.21 | Zeksie | not that long no, but added to the normal code exec time, it could seem it. |
| 19:03.30 | Zeksie | just a thought. |
| 19:04.42 | Cryect | hmm maybe |
| 19:05.21 | Zeksie | asked earlier, but will ask again. anyone had any issues of frame lag with certain types of frames overlapping? got some odd behaviour in X-Perl when raid frame borders overlap and the raid changes. if the borders don't overlap there's no lag whatsoever, but if they overlap even 1 pixel, the ui render stage hiccups frequently. |
| 19:05.34 | Cryect | zeksie its a blizzard issue |
| 19:05.51 | Zeksie | yeah. i know htat. but know what specifically? if it's down to 1 frame type or? |
| 19:05.53 | Cryect | Its from using toplevel |
| 19:06.03 | Yssaril | ckknight: may i use some of your code form ClockFu? |
| 19:06.03 | Zeksie | orly.. |
| 19:06.08 | Cryect | or whatever the flag is that sets frames to the top |
| 19:06.18 | Zeksie | ok. will go thru them and check it oujt |
| 19:06.20 | Zeksie | thx |
| 19:06.44 | ckknight | Yssaril: sure, what part? |
| 19:06.50 | Cryect | They seem to be using like the worst algorithm ever designed for changing all the necessary frame levels when a frame goes on top of another frame :-p |
| 19:06.56 | Yssaril | jsut the server and local offset parts |
| 19:07.36 | Yssaril | basically some code between line 118 and 151 |
| 19:07.37 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:07.41 | Yssaril | ty |
| 19:07.42 | ckknight | yea, sure |
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| 19:09.27 | Zeksie | yeah. spent a good number of hours last nite figuring out it wasn't any code causing the lag.. :) |
| 19:09.58 | yoshimo | is trac down or is it my connection again? |
| 19:10.46 | Cryect | its the svn |
| 19:13.12 | ckknight | svn is just very slow |
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| 19:28.17 | cncfanatics | Kaiser Chiefs - Ruby |
| 19:28.18 | cncfanatics | <3 |
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| 19:34.45 | [Liquidor] | Macro to unequip (empty) a slot? |
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| 19:35.48 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 19:35.50 | cncfanatics | I use that |
| 19:35.59 | cncfanatics | dunno it by heart though |
| 19:37.28 | cncfanatics | !api EquipCursorItem |
| 19:37.28 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: EquipCursorItem(slot); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_EquipCursorItem |
| 19:37.32 | cncfanatics | that might do it, if the cursor is empty |
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| 19:42.24 | mort | wsomeone shoot me... |
| 19:42.47 | ckknight | ~shoot mort |
| 19:42.48 | purl | ACTION shoots mort in the eye with a phase pistol! |
| 19:42.52 | masanbol | ~flee |
| 19:42.53 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 19:42.58 | mort | yay |
| 19:43.39 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r46912 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 19:43.39 | CIA-14 | LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add support for negated methods, i.e. "~IsEnabled" works as function() return self:IsEnabled() end. |
| 19:43.39 | CIA-14 | - if no handler is given, then it is implicitly the addon which registered the config table. |
| 19:43.40 | CIA-14 | - clean up getPassValues |
| 19:43.40 | CIA-14 | - add unit test to check for basic things |
| 19:43.41 | CIA-14 | - bugfix with :SetConfigTable |
| 19:44.14 | Funkeh` | takes a good 15min to commit something |
| 19:44.22 | ckknight | that took me 5 |
| 19:44.23 | cncfanatics | sucks |
| 19:44.30 | cncfanatics | I need to svn update for some reason |
| 19:44.33 | cncfanatics | wont let me commit |
| 19:44.37 | cncfanatics | says the version on svn is newer then mine |
| 19:44.46 | cncfanatics | even though i'm the only one that ever commits to fb :p |
| 19:45.03 | ckknight | localization? |
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| 19:46.30 | cncfanatics | an actionbar addon ? |
| 19:46.36 | cncfanatics | dont need locals :p |
| 19:46.36 | mort | 6 hours kael'thas *sigh* |
| 19:47.25 | Nandini | your config/options names and descriptions should be localized, shouldn't they cncfanatics? |
| 19:47.58 | cncfanatics | Nandini, eventualy |
| 19:48.14 | cncfanatics | thats no prio at all though |
| 19:49.03 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r46913 10Cartographer/Libs/UTF8/ (. utf8.lua utf8.lua): Cartographer: revert library removal |
| 19:49.28 | Yssaril | is the svn extreamly slow atm? |
| 19:49.56 | ckknight | yes |
| 19:50.10 | Yssaril | k just checking |
| 19:50.39 | Nandini | ckknight, I was getting lost looking around in the get/set functions for options in PitBull_HealthBar and you have Get/SetCustomBGColor and Get/SetCustomBGColor functions defined twice, exactly the same, letter for letter, right after each other |
| 19:50.52 | ckknight | really? |
| 19:50.53 | ckknight | blah. |
| 19:50.59 | Zeksie | :) |
| 19:51.13 | Nandini | actually Get/SetCustomBGColorToggle functions are duplicated as well |
| 19:51.52 | Nandini | i had made a slight change in one for my personal ClassBars mod, and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working |
| 19:52.28 | Nandini | lo and behold, my changes were being undone by the other copy of the function. LOL |
| 19:54.28 | Nandini | and i forgot to save a change of my modified MetaLayout.lua that supports adding the classBar and stupidly overwrote it with the latest committed version |
| 19:54.37 | Nandini | forgot to save a copy of mine, that is |
| 19:56.00 | Nandini | I wanted to try using the modified MetaLayout while my ClassBar mod was completely gone and see if it changed the behavior of the normal PitBull install at all |
| 19:57.13 | Yssaril | am jsut learning about tooltips and am currently anchoring it like this YGS_Infotip:SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_CURSOR") how do i anchor the bottomleft of the tooltip to the curser instead of the bottom center? |
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| 19:58.54 | ckknight | you don't, easily |
| 19:59.02 | ckknight | basically, you'd need to reset the position every single frame |
| 20:01.24 | Chompers | hey ckk, this weeks mad men was good |
| 20:01.38 | ckknight | which one was it? |
| 20:01.44 | Chompers | it's nice to see a little bit of the main guys past |
| 20:01.50 | Chompers | 1x05 |
| 20:02.30 | ckknight | ah, okay, haven't seen it yet |
| 20:02.34 | ckknight | lemme download |
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| 20:16.29 | Cryect | Alright I have zooming working in cartographer_instancemaps now for positioning |
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| 20:17.11 | nevcairiel | can gpslib place my playerdot on instancemaps yet ? :P |
| 20:17.21 | Cryect | no |
| 20:17.31 | nevcairiel | will it ? :) |
| 20:17.34 | Cryect | GPSLib needs more work still before adding that |
| 20:17.58 | Cryect | Hopefully, the annoying part is there is some unknown offset coming from somewhere for instances |
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| 20:18.22 | Cryect | so having to individually calibrate each of them is a pain :-p |
| 20:18.32 | Nandini | yeah i noticed it seems to be different on different clients, i tried it on my laptop and got completely different results |
| 20:18.52 | Cryect | its the calibration issues |
| 20:19.07 | nevcairiel | i wonder why blizz doesnt simply offer instance maps |
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| 20:19.23 | Cryect | I expect to see them do it eventually |
| 20:19.25 | nevcairiel | with like undiscovered parts like outdoors etc |
| 20:19.28 | Cryect | yeah |
| 20:19.33 | Cryect | has to have undiscovered parts |
| 20:19.47 | Cryect | prolly due to due multiple layers not sure |
| 20:19.53 | nevcairiel | true, thats an issue |
| 20:20.23 | Nandini | yeah they'd have to pick which layer has the more important feature to display |
| 20:20.25 | Cryect | karazhan is like the single instance where its really a large issue |
| 20:20.36 | nevcairiel | yeah its a big tower |
| 20:20.41 | nevcairiel | what would you expect =) |
| 20:20.46 | Cryect | he |
| 20:20.48 | Cryect | h |
| 20:21.04 | Nandini | yup i can't imagine how that would look with that many layers, perhaps they would have to split it into multiple zones |
| 20:21.48 | Cryect | just levels selectable |
| 20:21.51 | Cryect | just have* |
| 20:23.02 | Nandini | that would be inconventient in instances that only use levels for things like bridges |
| 20:23.16 | Nandini | but it might work for kara |
| 20:23.26 | kenlyric | well, cartagropher/atlas maps of karazhan aren't very useful. |
| 20:23.33 | nevcairiel | obviously that system would have to be a bit smart :P |
| 20:23.43 | nevcairiel | and dont show that stuff if its a simple bridge |
| 20:23.57 | Nandini | wouldn't making each "floor" of kara into it's own zone solve that? |
| 20:24.09 | Zeksie | yay. Heartrazor for mez! |
| 20:24.22 | kenlyric | uh, would you want to zone that many times? |
| 20:24.35 | Nandini | not zone as in loading, i mean map zone |
| 20:25.00 | Nandini | that would break a lot of addons tho i suppose |
| 20:25.29 | Nandini | but might also work for winged instances like SM |
| 20:25.39 | Cryect | When does Blizzard worry about breaking addons? |
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| 20:26.27 | Zeksie | nevva |
| 20:27.33 | Nandini | i think authors would still welcome the change even |
| 20:27.57 | Nandini | i can't imagine anyone saying, "no, don't give us instance maps, especially not with multiple zones, they'll break my addon" |
| 20:28.06 | Cryect | heh |
| 20:29.56 | Cryect | there we go and positioning working |
| 20:30.02 | Nandini | hmm i wonder why no one has made a WorldBossLoot mod for cartographer |
| 20:30.09 | Hjalte | Does anyone know when the EU honor is given out? |
| 20:31.04 | Nandini | no clue, ours in the US is around 5:30 AM server time |
| 20:32.27 | Tinhay | 2:30 |
| 20:32.28 | Tinhay | am |
| 20:33.29 | Cryect | ckknight: how would I go about committing the changes to InstanceMaps and LookNFeel (needed to be changed to use HookScript instead of SetScript for mousewheel) |
| 20:33.58 | ckknight | does it work? |
| 20:34.03 | ckknight | did you test properly? |
| 20:34.19 | ckknight | can you get one other person to test it and get it to work? |
| 20:34.28 | Cryect | k |
| 20:34.29 | ckknight | if the answer to all 3 is "yes", then just commit |
| 20:34.45 | Cryect | Need someone else to test then |
| 20:34.59 | Cryect | and damn svn being so slow been committing something else for a while now |
| 20:35.32 | Nandini | i can help if you'd like |
| 20:35.40 | Cryect | Yeah one second let me zip up the folders |
| 20:36.31 | Nandini | i was gonna say just DCC send it to me, but i'm behind a firewall now, not sure it will work without me setting up port forwarding or something |
| 20:37.08 | Nandini | i honestly hadn't used IRC in about 2 years until i came here |
| 20:37.14 | art3mis | depends if your client is capable of opening the dcc port via upnp |
| 20:37.25 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46914 10GPSLib/GPS-1.0/GPS-1.0.lua: GPSLib - Removes WORLD_MAP_UPDATE event usage and just delays the PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD event now |
| 20:38.02 | Cryect | http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/Cartographer.zip that just has InstanceMaps and LookNFeel so extract to wherever is appropriate (depends if you have modules seperated or not) |
| 20:38.16 | Nandini | gotcha |
| 20:38.32 | Nandini | do i need that latest commit of GPSLib too? |
| 20:38.39 | Cryect | no |
| 20:38.54 | Cryect | it doesn't do anything besides adds moving/zooming on instance maps |
| 20:39.10 | Cryect | shift click to move and just scroll mousewheel to zoom |
| 20:39.20 | Nandini | ok testing now |
| 20:39.56 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r46915 10Bartender3/Bartender3/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: added option to set the button tooltip to be disabled during combat (drycode) |
| 20:40.36 | Chompers | oooh, that's a nice feature |
| 20:41.58 | Nandini | Cryect: moving and zooming work just fine, but notes added through InstanceNotes and InstanceLoot do not move or scale on instance maps |
| 20:42.08 | Chompers | man love, the kind you clean up with a mop and bucket |
| 20:42.22 | Cryect | Good point forgot about them (I've got them disabled) |
| 20:42.32 | Nandini | that could confuse some players |
| 20:42.35 | Cryect | yeah |
| 20:42.57 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 072.2 * r46916 10Bartender3/Bartender3/Bartender3_ButtonClass.lua: Bartender3: only hide the tooltip if its ours |
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| 20:43.56 | art3mis | hey i have a question |
| 20:44.06 | art3mis | whispercasting nolonger works right? |
| 20:44.18 | art3mis | like someone whispers you for a buff and you cast it on them |
| 20:44.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:44.25 | nevcairiel | right |
| 20:44.28 | art3mis | damn |
| 20:45.06 | art3mis | was thinking you could grab events like crits and damage and stuff while fighting whisper yourself to cast spells and essentially combat assist yoruself |
| 20:45.44 | nevcairiel | why the complicated route through whispers then ? :P |
| 20:45.44 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:46.13 | Shirik | in either case you can't :P |
| 20:46.20 | Cryect | So why do you want to assist doing that anyways |
| 20:46.39 | Nandini | blizz seems to have made it pretty clear they don't want an addon playing the game for you :) |
| 20:46.41 | Shirik | furthermore it was never possible automated |
| 20:46.48 | Shirik | you still needed a hardware event |
| 20:46.58 | ckknight | it used to be possible. |
| 20:47.00 | Nandini | perhaps if you were out of combat it could pop up a button for you to click |
| 20:47.15 | Cryect | the original whispercast required nothing :-p |
| 20:47.16 | Shirik | hardware events have been around since at least 1.10 |
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| 20:47.35 | ckknight | yea, but not before that ;-) |
| 20:47.44 | Shirik | I wasn't in the field before that |
| 20:47.48 | Cryect | Hell addons could move you and fight and everything |
| 20:47.54 | nevcairiel | before that you could write lua bots |
| 20:48.04 | ckknight | Shirik: I got in right before that, at patch 1.9 |
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| 20:48.49 | Nandini | Cryect, what is the point of moving and zooming an instance map inside cartographer? |
| 20:48.53 | Cryect | heh I liked how originally blizzard would just label addons as illegal |
| 20:49.20 | Cryect | Sometimes you want to get in closer details etc |
| 20:49.31 | Cryect | and if you wanted to have an addon like say Cartographer_Doodle |
| 20:49.40 | Cryect | it would be really helpful if you can zoom in on boss rooms |
| 20:50.37 | Nandini | i was just asking because it's very different from how world maps work |
| 20:50.58 | Nandini | people will want to know why world maps don't have this functionality :) |
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| 20:51.25 | Cryect | heh I think it would actually be nice to make it work like world maps to zoom in on boss rooms easily |
| 20:51.36 | Cryect | but that requires a lot of work |
| 20:52.06 | Nandini | yeah doing instance maps like this is kind of like a giant minimap, which is very different from regular world maps |
| 20:52.27 | Nandini | but obviously yatlas has applied the same philosophy to their world map replacement |
| 20:52.39 | Cryect | I actually think Cartographer_YAtlas would be cool |
| 20:52.48 | Chompers | Cartographer_Doodle - this exists? |
| 20:52.52 | Cryect | uh no |
| 20:52.53 | Nandini | in that case, i think it should probably no longer be cartographer |
| 20:53.09 | Cryect | WEll what if you want the note features, etc of cartographer |
| 20:53.12 | Nandini | cartographer adds new functionality to the existing world maps |
| 20:53.27 | Chompers | aww, i wanna draw out tactics...and draw penises on said tactics |
| 20:53.42 | art3mis | chompers get whiteboard |
| 20:53.49 | Cryect | Yeah, from people I've asked who actually used blackboard thats normally what it went down to doing |
| 20:54.00 | Nandini | yatlas and this new type of instancemaps sort of completely replace the functionality of the existing world maps (and non-existant instance maps) |
| 20:54.10 | Cryect | I recommend doodle its much more polished than whiteboard is :-p |
| 20:54.41 | Cryect | And I'm the guy who wrote the original whiteboard and well blackboard is part of imba and I doubt you really care about boss room maps from Naxx |
| 20:54.51 | art3mis | whiteboard has built in drag and drop penii ;P |
| 20:54.59 | Chompers | :D |
| 20:55.08 | Cryect | haha |
| 20:55.25 | Nandini | as the tank, mine would have to be the largest |
| 20:55.33 | art3mis | smallest |
| 20:55.35 | art3mis | roids |
| 20:55.37 | art3mis | ;) |
| 20:55.48 | art3mis | err R.O.I.D.S |
| 20:55.57 | Nandini | it represents my ego, not my actual physical prowess :P |
| 20:56.16 | art3mis | Aura of E-Peen |
| 20:56.33 | art3mis | Allows you to flex and posture 4 times as fast as the other noobs. |
| 20:56.34 | Chompers | warlocks have oversized-penii then |
| 20:56.45 | art3mis | "Whatcha gonna do!!!" |
| 20:57.02 | Nandini | yes but all those penises will be off in a corner together huddling for safety |
| 20:57.30 | Nandini | probably a dark, shadowy corner, since they are warlocks |
| 20:58.39 | Megalon | socalled dark-room? |
| 20:58.44 | Nandini | Cryect: I suggest you replicate your instance maps for the entire rest of the world, and create an entirely new addon like YAtlas |
| 20:59.48 | Nandini | i bet you can do it faster and smarter than yatlas, too |
| 21:00.05 | Cryect | You mean Record, though thats focused really on something different but I want to add in world map as well :-p |
| 21:01.29 | Cryect | I'm thinking of renaming Record to Review since seems more appropriate |
| 21:01.47 | Nandini | or how about Playback? |
| 21:01.55 | Nandini | or InstantReplay |
| 21:02.03 | Cryect | Replay might work |
| 21:02.11 | Nandini | there might already be something called replay |
| 21:02.27 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r46917 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_DB.lua YGS_GUI.xml YssGuildShop.lua YssGuildShop.toc): |
| 21:02.27 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 21:02.27 | CIA-14 | - ID codes should now work no matter what timezone you are in and should always be based on the server timezone |
| 21:02.27 | CIA-14 | - will now reject data sent by an incompatible (old) version of YssGuildShop |
| 21:02.39 | Cryect | there might already be something called a lot of things have to check |
| 21:03.36 | Nandini | instant replay seems to fit the idea of Record: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_replay |
| 21:03.55 | Nandini | that may be U.S.-centric though |
| 21:04.38 | Cryect | I know what you mean :-p |
| 21:04.45 | Nandini | oh the wiki page actually says at the top "The examples and perspective in this article or section may not represent a worldwide view of the subject." LOL |
| 21:05.04 | Cryect | It has to have doodle functionality of course so you can pretend you're madden |
| 21:05.04 | Nandini | i guess i should actually read a page before i link it |
| 21:07.53 | Nandini | i wonder if you could get in trouble calling it MaddenInstantReplay heheheh |
| 21:08.20 | Nandini | play the old monday night football theme when someone opens the window :) |
| 21:10.37 | art3mis | just call it WowNight 2007 |
| 21:10.50 | art3mis | and update it each year with more bloat and "realism" |
| 21:11.23 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r46918 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 21:11.23 | CIA-14 | LibJokerConfig-1.0 - make enabling and disabling controls still show the tooltip, and turn the tooltip gray in the process. |
| 21:11.23 | CIA-14 | - this is also done for the tree, which will also collapse if it is disabled. |
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| 21:12.48 | Nandini | i wonder why blizz hasn't implemented a replay frame or something, that would be kinda cool, have your client cache the last 2 minutes or so of data that got rendered to the world frame and replay it |
| 21:13.26 | ckknight | not worth it, I suppose |
| 21:13.37 | art3mis | heh and auto replay in a window the final 30 seconds of a boss kill from a zoomed out position in the case of ranged and up close for melee |
| 21:13.50 | ckknight | you'd have to keep a record of 2 minutes of near-pristine quality, which would mean lots of mem + cpu usage |
| 21:14.16 | Nandini | not record video of it, i mean record the data, and just draw a mini world frame with those data |
| 21:14.19 | nevcairiel | well saving the net traffic for that time shouldnt be too much |
| 21:14.42 | art3mis | mr.mode7 could do it |
| 21:14.48 | art3mis | go go gadet replay! |
| 21:16.54 | Nandini | actually, if you could save more than 2 minutes, it would be an awesome way to later make videos |
| 21:17.21 | Nandini | have the client cache 10 mins of data (or roll stuff out if the cache gets full, however big they decide to make it) |
| 21:17.22 | [dRaCo] | logging the traffic is forbidden, isnt it? |
| 21:17.43 | Diao | not if blizzard does it |
| 21:17.46 | Nandini | later you can replay it with free camera movement and record that |
| 21:17.54 | [dRaCo] | sure... |
| 21:18.06 | [dRaCo] | but making an addon that does it would be |
| 21:18.09 | [dRaCo] | which is a pity |
| 21:18.41 | Nandini | i was suggesting blizzard do that, since they probably already have some kind of in-house functionality like it they use for debugging or for making demos |
| 21:19.30 | [dRaCo] | would be a great feature |
| 21:20.04 | Nandini | that way, even if you're the tank, but maybe you have the fastest computer or are the only one with a registered version of fraps |
| 21:20.14 | Nandini | you replay the whole thing with free camera movement and record THAT with fraps |
| 21:21.00 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 21:21.31 | Nandini | or perhaps you upload it to blizzard's WoWTube as raw data and they make a flash vid out of it for you :) |
| 21:22.01 | Nandini | and they finally get a use for my realm's server, since obviously our 5k population isn't taxinng it much, they can use it for video storage :) |
| 21:22.27 | [dRaCo] | would be hard to choose the camera angle then |
| 21:22.33 | Nandini | true |
| 21:22.51 | Nandini | they actually forgot to restart our server once, we are so under their radar |
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| 21:23.12 | Nandini | the rest of our battlegroup came up, but for 2 hours, couldn't log on to darrowmere |
| 21:23.32 | Nandini | finally someone in the tech support forum said it got "missed" LOL |
| 21:23.44 | Nandini | that's the most honest i've ever seen them be regarding downtime |
| 21:24.48 | Nandini | "sorry, we forgot to start darrowmere back up after the rolling restarts" |
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| 21:32.00 | Cyrez | cncfanatics: Ping! ^^ |
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| 21:42.22 | Arrowmaster | is svn.wowace.com fucked? |
| 21:42.55 | Nandini | it's reportedly very slow, but still functional |
| 21:46.09 | Cyrez | Bah, Fraps this, Fraps that... http://taksi.sourceforge.net < Open Source FTW |
| 21:47.32 | Nandini | taksi gives me about 4 fps in wow, fraps gives me a reliable 30 fps uncompressed |
| 21:47.40 | Nandini | (i have a very fast striped HD array tho) |
| 21:47.47 | Cyrez | Ooo. |
| 21:48.12 | Nandini | of course, that's tens of gigabytes of uncompressed video that later has to be compressed |
| 21:48.44 | Cyrez | Yeah, I was telling my roommate that. |
| 21:48.49 | nevcairiel | taksi with compression or not? |
| 21:49.20 | Cyrez | IDK, I just don't like paying money when I can get something similar for free. |
| 21:49.48 | Elkano | whore vs girlfriend? |
| 21:49.49 | Nandini | that was taksi i think with xvid compression, i got better fps with WMV compression, but somehow i was never able to use uncompressed video |
| 21:49.58 | Diao | girlfriends aren't free either :\ |
| 21:50.02 | Cyrez | Society has been corrupted by greed. |
| 21:51.11 | Nandini | humans are greedy even in the absence of society :) |
| 21:51.26 | Nandini | they have a hoarding instinct, that is |
| 21:51.39 | Nandini | it's not really greedy if you have nobody to share it with i guess :) |
| 21:52.16 | ckknight | imho, instead of shunning greed, we should try to embrace it and tame it |
| 21:52.36 | Cyrez | Reminds me of this Coke bottle that was thrown out of an airplane and fell onto the land of some tribe. |
| 21:52.49 | ckknight | The Gods Must Be Crazy |
| 21:52.52 | ckknight | good movie |
| 21:53.04 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, pong |
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| 21:53.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o nymbia] by ChanServ |
| 21:53.15 | cncfanatics | whats up ? |
| 21:53.16 | Elkano | hiho nymbia :) |
| 21:53.17 | Cyrez | [2007/08/19 14:31:02-1152-x1]: FlexBar2-beta\Action\Action.lua:26: attempt to concatenate a nil value |
| 21:53.24 | Cyrez | ^ |
| 21:53.32 | Nandini | isn't "embracing and taming greed" essentially how a free market economy is supposed to work? |
| 21:53.39 | cncfanatics | lets see |
| 21:53.42 | Nandini | and how it sometimes spectacularly fails? :) |
| 21:54.05 | ckknight | right on the first part |
| 21:54.05 | cncfanatics | svn is particularly fast -.- |
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| 21:54.18 | ckknight | it fails because of government interference :-P |
| 21:54.25 | Cyrez | That'd happen as soon as it's loaded. |
| 21:54.40 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, got it, fixing it |
| 21:54.44 | cncfanatics | need svn going |
| 21:54.47 | Cyrez | ^^ |
| 21:55.25 | Cyrez | I found some other bugs a couple of commits ago but I wanna check to be sure they weren't fixed already. |
| 21:55.45 | cncfanatics | let me first fix this one |
| 21:56.03 | cncfanatics | fixed |
| 21:56.06 | cncfanatics | just need to get a commit off |
| 21:56.15 | nymbia | hey Elkano |
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| 21:56.20 | nymbia | hows it goin |
| 21:56.52 | V^ | My option for "Player Names" in Interface options, changes back to off whenever I log out |
| 21:56.52 | Cyrez | files.wowace.com is still keeping up. |
| 21:56.53 | cncfanatics | ckknight, whats up with the svn ? |
| 21:56.55 | Amadeo | Who was making a CowTip "layout" to look like TinyTip? |
| 21:57.00 | ckknight | cncfanatics: dunno |
| 21:57.04 | ckknight | Amadeo: antiarc, I believe |
| 21:57.10 | V^ | What possible mod could be turning off the names of players over their heads? |
| 21:57.19 | Amadeo | Yeah, Antiarc's was nice, I think I need to bug him for it again :) |
| 21:58.16 | Amadeo | Antiarc! |
| 21:58.34 | cncfanatics | just fixed another bug, just need to get a commit off -.- |
| 21:59.46 | Speeddymon | is svn down right now? |
| 21:59.51 | cncfanatics | no |
| 21:59.57 | cncfanatics | its just very very very very very very very ... very slow |
| 22:00.10 | Amadeo | Who else has a good CowTip layout? |
| 22:00.14 | Speeddymon | hmm.. i cant commit... ive been waiting for 10 mins |
| 22:00.32 | cncfanatics | updating here |
| 22:00.34 | art3mis | v^ automaton does that |
| 22:00.35 | cncfanatics | been 5 mins |
| 22:00.43 | cncfanatics | ckknight, any way to commit directly or so ? |
| 22:00.45 | art3mis | switches them on during combat and off when not in combat |
| 22:00.48 | Diao | what's a "good" layout |
| 22:01.40 | Amadeo | Anything besides default :P |
| 22:01.56 | Diao | mine's here |
| 22:02.06 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, what u think of FB2, except that bug |
| 22:02.07 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/72453 |
| 22:02.14 | Diao | from my savedvars |
| 22:02.17 | Amadeo | Diao: thank ya, is it modeled after anything? |
| 22:02.23 | Diao | similar to cowtip |
| 22:02.24 | Diao | er |
| 22:02.29 | Diao | tipbuddy |
| 22:02.30 | Diao | * |
| 22:02.36 | Diao | modified though for a bit more info |
| 22:02.56 | weab | V^: automaton, but the latest version has that disabled by default. |
| 22:03.07 | Amadeo | thank ya |
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| 22:05.15 | Cyrez | cncfanatics: I want it to have my children when it's done. <3 |
| 22:06.28 | cncfanatics | Cyrez :p |
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| 22:06.39 | cncfanatics | only a few features left to make before I Get an RC off |
| 22:07.28 | cncfanatics | cant do shit till my svn update command goes off though |
| 22:09.32 | V^ | Dont have that mod weab :( |
| 22:09.44 | weab | good |
| 22:09.52 | weab | that means you can't blame me! |
| 22:09.56 | V^ | :| |
| 22:10.17 | cncfanatics | anyone |
| 22:10.22 | cncfanatics | that has an US account |
| 22:10.24 | cncfanatics | need stuff posted |
| 22:11.02 | weab | mm? |
| 22:11.22 | cncfanatics | weab, can u post something to slouken for meh ? |
| 22:11.32 | weab | possibly |
| 22:13.52 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72456 |
| 22:14.00 | cncfanatics | in this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=C9554795EA0FB2EF4D997772E95CFE15?topicId=102909678&sid=1&pageNo=9 |
| 22:15.57 | Gnarfoz | anyone know an addon that combines the separate hits of a windfury proc into one big damage number? |
| 22:16.35 | Cryect | Windfury procs look like normal attacks |
| 22:16.49 | nevcairiel | MSBT basicly combines them |
| 22:17.03 | Amadeo | If you let WAU pull its own libraries without externals, will it remove the unneeded libraries when you remove an addon through WAU? |
| 22:17.09 | nevcairiel | as part of its dmg throttling |
| 22:17.20 | nevcairiel | all hits in the same second get combined to one number |
| 22:17.33 | cncfanatics | someone fix the svn :( |
| 22:18.04 | [dRaCo] | Gnarfoz: WindFuryFu or something? |
| 22:18.10 | Gnarfoz | dunno, I guess |
| 22:18.46 | [dRaCo] | there's some addon like that, cant remember the exact name... |
| 22:19.24 | [dRaCo] | Cryect: no, they dont. "Your Windfury hits xyz for 100000000000 damage." |
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| 22:19.44 | [dRaCo] | maybe it's Windfury Attack, but... |
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| 22:20.17 | Cryect | not if its a windfury totem |
| 22:20.38 | Cryect | Windfury totems just comes up as "You gain 2 extra attacks from windfury" |
| 22:20.55 | [dRaCo] | well, maybe. never used it. got my own wf ;) |
| 22:21.19 | Cryect | yeah I should have clarified the normal enchant should come up fine |
| 22:21.42 | [dRaCo] | but the totem only gives you one extra attack |
| 22:21.53 | [dRaCo] | so there's no need to combine the damage. |
| 22:22.58 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, I'd love to commit my fix but -.- |
| 22:23.04 | cncfanatics | who can fix the svn ? |
| 22:23.11 | Cyrez | It's alright. ^^ |
| 22:23.44 | Cryect | you can commit |
| 22:23.48 | Cryect | just takes like 15-20 minutes |
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| 22:24.11 | ckknight | ~seen Kaelten |
| 22:24.36 | purl | kaelten <n=chatzill@c-69-181-47-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 2h 8m 26s ago, saying: 'heh'. |
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| 22:24.50 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowwiki.com/What_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_is_NOT |
| 22:24.58 | cncfanatics | Cryect, I need to update |
| 22:25.00 | cncfanatics | and then commit |
| 22:25.02 | Pkekyo | !c eu ravencrest furion |
| 22:25.04 | cncfanatics | 20 mins each -.- |
| 22:25.05 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Furion, Level 70 Human Paladin (41/20/0). 4367 HP; 4488 Mana; 34 mp5; 42 +spell dmg; 394 +heal; 1.41% dodge; 5% block;[[ TBR: 378 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2chzlw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37r8qv ]] |
| 22:25.15 | cncfanatics | naked pala ? |
| 22:25.19 | cncfanatics | !c eu khadgar evolve |
| 22:25.22 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 13147 HP; 4428 Mana; 81 mana regen; 16127 Armour; 596 AP; 88.1 Melee DPS; 5.65% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 245 +spell dmg/heal; 287 defense; 19.06% dodge; 20.91% block; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 1478 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27evs8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sm7vw ]] |
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| 22:28.56 | Keias | !c us blackrock Saiek |
| 22:28.59 | ThraeBot | Keias: Saiek, Level 70 Orc Warrior (8/5/48). 12894 HP; 13016 Armour; 606 AP; 121.5 Melee DPS; 11% melee crit; 321 defense; 16.89% dodge; 21.15% block;[[ TBR: 1079 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrn6m7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mwtr6 ]] |
| 22:29.10 | Keias | prot ftl :( |
| 22:29.30 | cncfanatics | damn lovely protspec |
| 22:29.33 | cncfanatics | <3 tanking |
| 22:29.39 | Keias | Yeah tanking is fun :D |
| 22:29.46 | Keias | But when I'm not tanking, it sucks :9 |
| 22:29.48 | Keias | :(* even |
| 22:30.01 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 22:30.08 | cncfanatics | i'm nearly as well geared as our guild MT |
| 22:30.20 | cncfanatics | so we usualy switch depending on the encounter |
| 22:30.30 | Vinny | !c us scilla Vinie |
| 22:30.32 | ThraeBot | Vinny: Vinie, Level 70 Undead Mage (10/48/3). 5913 HP; 7751 Mana; 148 mana regen; 330 spell crit; 85 spell hit; 773 +spell dmg; 222 arcane dmg (995); 271 fire dmg (1044); 5.18% dodge; 11 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 691 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/292bff ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2u9kj6 ]] |
| 22:31.12 | cncfanatics | how can u guys have so damn low hp ? |
| 22:31.24 | Vinny | its easy =o dont wear stam =o |
| 22:31.26 | Vinny | !help |
| 22:31.26 | zenBot | Usage: <command> |
| 22:33.50 | Pkekyo | meh, when speccing prot I always have ONE talent point I dunno wtf do do with |
| 22:35.23 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.09 | Keias | I use my extra point in Imp Bloodrage |
| 22:36.09 | TNSe | heh |
| 22:36.24 | TNSe | our mt claims imp. bloodrage is 100% required 3/3 ;) |
| 22:36.39 | TNSe | otherwise he gets 2 little rage on raidbosses :( |
| 22:36.49 | Keias | I certainly don't |
| 22:36.59 | Keias | I only use it for the initial Shield Slam before getting hit |
| 22:37.00 | Pkekyo | I allready stacked up imp. bloodrage |
| 22:37.19 | TNSe | 17/5/rest? |
| 22:37.24 | TNSe | er |
| 22:37.27 | TNSe | 13/5/rest |
| 22:37.28 | TNSe | no |
| 22:37.31 | TNSe | 8/5/rest ? :P |
| 22:37.34 | TNSe | lol |
| 22:37.35 | Pkekyo | I tend to be 8/5/48 |
| 22:37.38 | TNSe | 8 |
| 22:37.42 | Pkekyo | took you long enough ;> |
| 22:37.48 | TNSe | 5/5 parry, imp. tclap |
| 22:37.51 | TNSe | 5 extra crit |
| 22:37.53 | TNSe | and rest in prot |
| 22:37.54 | Pkekyo | ofcourse |
| 22:37.57 | Keias | yep |
| 22:38.09 | Pkekyo | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TV0cZVZbEtsh0zcest |
| 22:38.54 | TNSe | heh |
| 22:38.57 | TNSe | that last point is a toughie |
| 22:39.05 | TNSe | I guess imp. shieldwall isn't so bad |
| 22:39.12 | TNSe | its really good when you actually need to shieldwall |
| 22:40.46 | Pkekyo | well, I basicly never use it...don't need to, so it's seems like a waste of a perfectly good talent point |
| 22:41.19 | TNSe | heh |
| 22:41.25 | TNSe | 3s extra on sw isn't THAT bad |
| 22:41.31 | TNSe | when you use sw its usually dire .P |
| 22:41.37 | Hjalte | I don't have an extra point when i spec prot, but i'm speccing prot for heroic instances on the other hand. |
| 22:41.44 | Pkekyo | true, but I...don't |
| 22:41.47 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: howso? |
| 22:43.42 | TNSe | improved taunt ;) |
| 22:44.21 | Hjalte | Improved taunt yeah |
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| 22:45.47 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.57 | Hjalte | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Insecure |
| 22:46.12 | Pkekyo | if people make me have to use taunt, I let them die so it won't happen again :> |
| 22:46.27 | cncfanatics | same |
| 22:47.01 | Pkekyo | - PuG heroics, that is |
| 22:47.29 | Pkekyo | in PuGs, I'm a ruthless dictator...the only way to get them done properly, it seems |
| 22:47.30 | cncfanatics | PuG or non PuG if someone aggros I taunt after he's dead here |
| 22:47.37 | Hjalte | I just do what i have to do to safe peoples arse, and then scold them afterwards for being such jerks |
| 22:47.46 | Hjalte | save |
| 22:47.47 | cncfanatics | I let em die |
| 22:47.52 | cncfanatics | and then scold them for being jerks :p |
| 22:48.01 | Pkekyo | aye, I find it better to have them figure out themselves that nuking = expensive |
| 22:48.12 | Pkekyo | had this one mage that wouldn't take the hint though |
| 22:48.17 | V^ | I would taunt, save them, kill the mob loot and continue. |
| 22:48.24 | V^ | Because any other way SLOWS YOU DOWN |
| 22:48.34 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 22:48.55 | Pkekyo | V^: rather slow than 20 wipes on trash because people are complete fucking dickwads |
| 22:49.01 | Hjalte | I hate it when I am telling someone to do something right, and not be a jerk, and someone tells me to stfu. I am trying to make this guy a better player! |
| 22:49.22 | V^ | if youre grouping with "dickwads" why stay there |
| 22:49.34 | Keias | Badges, of course! |
| 22:49.44 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, in PuGs ? |
| 22:49.49 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: ask for group leadership at the beginning of the instance (excuse yourself with marking or such), and if you discover a cunt that won't behave, boot the arse...there's always a DPSer out there |
| 22:50.00 | Hjalte | I'm always the leader, marking stuff. |
| 22:50.03 | kebinusan | realm transfers have destroyed this game |
| 22:50.09 | V^ | but you wont kill anything if youre grouping with dickwads |
| 22:50.10 | Hjalte | cncfanatics, yeah, not in a guild atm |
| 22:50.32 | Pkekyo | V^: because I need badges, I need loot, and I can't afford to sit around playing with mah willie until the perfect party arrives |
| 22:50.46 | Pkekyo | kebinusan: crossrealm BGs destroyed this game! |
| 22:50.50 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, whoever tells a tank to stfu aint very smart |
| 22:50.59 | V^ | meh im happy with my willie |
| 22:51.11 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 22:51.35 | Diao | imp revenge......... |
| 22:51.46 | Pkekyo | Diao: it's fucking ace for heroics |
| 22:51.52 | Diao | oh heroic |
| 22:52.52 | Pkekyo | aye, my guild haven't come any further than kara, so I tank there twice a week and bring spankage to heroics the rest of the week |
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| 22:53.09 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, we do PuG karas all week long |
| 22:53.14 | cncfanatics | but we cant kill gruul or loot reaver |
| 22:53.16 | cncfanatics | it sucks |
| 22:53.38 | Pkekyo | we simply don't have enough people |
| 22:53.46 | Pkekyo | there's an active core of about 15 players |
| 22:53.52 | cncfanatics | same |
| 22:54.21 | Mihara | hmm |
| 22:54.36 | Mihara | can someone help me with an eepanels problem |
| 22:55.02 | Pkekyo | there's more than 50 chars in guild, but we hardly get enough people for the two kara raids each week, and there's always the same ones going |
| 22:55.07 | Mihara | it involves the petbar on BT3 |
| 22:55.21 | Mihara | it doesnt disappear when the pet is dismissed |
| 22:55.42 | mort | pug kara? sounds nasty |
| 22:55.47 | Pkekyo | guess you're SoL and JWF then :p |
| 22:56.49 | Pkekyo | huh...my desk lamp just had a short, it seems |
| 22:57.08 | cncfanatics | with PuG kara I mean |
| 22:57.13 | cncfanatics | take 10 random ppl from guild |
| 22:57.18 | cncfanatics | and clear the damn shitplace |
| 22:57.22 | mort | ah, k ;) |
| 22:57.54 | Keias | Our guild is like that too Pkekyo |
| 22:58.01 | Keias | Except we only get enough for 1 kara raid |
| 22:58.38 | Pkekyo | Keias: we spent two weeks of petitioning to find out what days we could actually get a raid up and running...monday and thursday |
| 22:58.44 | Keias | lol |
| 22:58.47 | Nandini | Mihara, is your problem that BT3's PetBar is still visible after your pet is dismissed, or that an eePanel parented to the PetBar is still visible when the PetBar is not? |
| 22:58.49 | Keias | We did that for a week :( |
| 22:58.55 | Keias | But things are smooth now |
| 22:59.01 | Keias | This was our first week doing Kara |
| 22:59.07 | Keias | Since we played on another server 4 months ago |
| 22:59.48 | cncfanatics | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2' |
| 22:59.48 | cncfanatics | svn: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2': timed out waiting for server (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 22:59.51 | cncfanatics | WTB fix :( |
| 23:00.01 | mort | 5 raid days a week, 4-6 hours a day *sigh* |
| 23:01.16 | Mihara | the eepanel is still visible Nandini |
| 23:02.15 | ckknight | gah |
| 23:02.25 | cncfanatics | ckknight, WTB svn :p |
| 23:02.34 | ckknight | not my issue |
| 23:02.37 | Pkekyo | mort: what instances? |
| 23:02.54 | mort | tk/ssc, wiping at kael'thas atm |
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| 23:04.06 | Nandini | Mihara: if you manually hide the pet bar (/bar petbar hide on) what happens? |
| 23:04.47 | Mihara | one sec |
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| 23:06.41 | Mihara | it hides both |
| 23:06.48 | Mihara | the petbar and the eepanel |
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| 23:07.20 | Nandini | i think the petbar is a special bar, unless you set it to always hide, the frame is actually always shown |
| 23:07.37 | Mihara | maybe I can make a macro? |
| 23:07.43 | Nandini | but perhaps its alpha is set to zero (fully transparent), its buttons are disabled, and you can click through it |
| 23:08.21 | Nandini | yup, you actually can't use "on" or "off" for /bar petbar hide |
| 23:08.35 | Nandini | using /bar petbar hide just toggles it back and forth |
| 23:08.37 | Codayus | My guild was in a similar postion; we were stuck on Gruul for quite a while. Although now we're stuck on loot reaver which is almost more embarassing. 5% wipe on Wed, 3% wipe on Fri. Gah. |
| 23:09.03 | dreamss | half of my guild left cause we could not kill gruul |
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| 23:09.14 | dreamss | problem was, we allways had new people every pull |
| 23:09.17 | dreamss | so bleh |
| 23:09.20 | Mihara | my guild is stuck on mother in bt :\ |
| 23:09.22 | Nandini | if you find a solution that works for you, you may want to post it in the forums, Mihara |
| 23:09.35 | Mihara | i'll try nandini |
| 23:09.36 | Mihara | thanks |
| 23:10.14 | Codayus | Gruul is tough for a Kara guild. What's really frustrating is when you end up taking people you KNOW don't have the DPS you need because you can't fill the raid any other way. |
| 23:10.44 | cncfanatics | Mihara, I envy you :/ |
| 23:10.47 | cncfanatics | although |
| 23:10.49 | cncfanatics | actualy I dont |
| 23:10.52 | cncfanatics | bored of hc raiding |
| 23:11.05 | Codayus | Our first Gruul kill was a complete fluke; lost the OT way too early due to stupidity, and then ended up with a rogue getting a bizarre minute-plus dodge string. Oo |
| 23:11.36 | mort | that's one of the reasons why i don't raid with my guild and joined another raid group, we have many casuals that aren't up to the task :/ |
| 23:11.40 | Codayus | Odd thing was, when we went back next week - just knowing we COULD kill Gruul - it was much much easier. Odd. |
| 23:12.01 | Nandini | nevcairiel: is the PetBar frame in BT3 always shown, just not visible or clickable when a pet is dismissed? |
| 23:12.54 | Codayus | We went from performing so poorly we really didn't deserve a kill to one-shotting him easily in like...4 weeks. And with no real change in players or gear. And it wasn't just "learning the fight" since we'd been stuck on him for about 3 *months*. >< |
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| 23:13.05 | Pkekyo | starting school again in approx 6 hrs /sigh |
| 23:13.15 | ckknight | and cnc leaves |
| 23:13.18 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r46919 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 23:13.18 | CIA-14 | LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add more checks |
| 23:13.18 | CIA-14 | - when refreshing, refresh the tree view as well as the main pane. |
| 23:13.18 | CIA-14 | - implement checking of .disabled and .hidden |
| 23:13.19 | ckknight | after the svn is fixed. |
| 23:14.38 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r46920 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Core.lua): |
| 23:14.38 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 23:14.38 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
| 23:14.38 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.38 | CIA-14 | Action.lua: |
| 23:14.39 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.20 | Pkekyo | meh, guild officers got a hardon...won't let me have my bank char in the guild due to 'one alt each' limit >.< |
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| 23:23.21 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r46921 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: LibJokerConfig-1.0 - add a note and documentation about strings needing to be validated. |
| 23:23.59 | ckknight | Pkekyo: lame |
| 23:24.25 | Codayus | Pkekyo: Never understood those rules... |
| 23:24.37 | Codayus | I mean, how does it benefit the guild exactly? |
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| 23:27.20 | nedau | sup noobs |
| 23:27.31 | Pkekyo | Codayus: yes it's lame, and it doesn't benefit the guild in any way |
| 23:28.05 | Nandini | i suppose it helps keep the total guild roster manageable. what if every member had 9 alts in the guild? |
| 23:28.06 | mort | looks better in the armory ;) |
| 23:28.12 | Codayus | Wonder where rules like that come from? I only ever hear of them in raiding guilds, and I can't imagine a raiding guild is bumping up against the max guild size limits... |
| 23:28.34 | Pkekyo | Nandini: I'm more puzzled about the 20+ members I've never even seen online.... |
| 23:28.42 | Codayus | Nandini: What if they did? Add a special "alt" rank, dump everyone down there, and forget about it. |
| 23:28.55 | Pkekyo | Codayus: we currently have an alt rank |
| 23:29.17 | CIA-14 | 03jncl * r46922 10Skinner/ (21 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:29.17 | CIA-14 | Skinner: Skinned Earth & PartyQuests |
| 23:29.17 | CIA-14 | - Updated XRS, AtlasQuest, AtlasLoot, ATSW, AuldLangSyne, AutoDecline, AuctionFilterPlus, AxuItemMenus, EditingUI, AutoBag, WIM, QuestHistory, Atlas, Waterfall, AoTRDungeonQuester |
| 23:31.06 | Codayus | For a raid guild, it's important to have a good count of active members, but if anything, forcing alts outside the guild makes that harder. Kicking inactive people I could see much easier. |
| 23:31.40 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 23:31.58 | Pkekyo | I'm one of the most active people in the guild, and there's still more than 20 people I have yet to see online |
| 23:33.01 | Codayus | Plus it reduces the chatter on guild chat, makes organizing heroics harder, and otherwise interferes with the day-to-day operations of the guild. Weird. There must be a REASON for the rule though... |
| 23:33.56 | Codayus | ...beyond the obvious attraction of officer power trips. :-) |
| 23:34.34 | Pkekyo | ouh, it's past midnight, I can do dailies again! |
| 23:34.52 | Pkekyo | Codayus: I cant' find any GOOD and logical reason for it |
| 23:35.24 | Pkekyo | meh, cba, I'm off...g'nite all |
| 23:35.49 | phawx | what's the command to show all ace addons installed |
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| 23:38.32 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r46923 10Joker/LibJokerConfig-1.0/LibJokerConfig-1.0.lua: LibJokerConfig-1.0 - instead of execute's button text being the same as .name, instead use .buttonText. |
| 23:39.26 | ckknight | phawx: /ace list ace2 |
| 23:40.37 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r46924 10Joker/JokerTest/JokerTest.lua: JokerTest - update for buttonText, also add some more options and make the toggle disable all other options. |
| 23:44.48 | phawx | hmm |
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| 23:47.13 | ckknight | hrm, not 100% sure how I want to have the confirm thing for LibJokerConfig-1.0 |
| 23:47.55 | ckknight | I kinda don't want to have a popup |
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| 23:57.00 | Nandini | what are you confirming? |
| 23:57.32 | ckknight | Nandini: you can specify an option that when you click, it asks for confirmation, like an "Are you sure?" thing |
| 23:58.33 | Nandini | confirmation is available for every type of option, or is an actual separate kind of option itself? |
| 23:59.22 | ckknight | just for buttons |
| 23:59.27 | ckknight | i.e. execute types |
| 23:59.32 | Pkekyo | wts insomnia plx |
