| 00:00.03 | ckknight | silentium: ;-) |
| 00:00.05 | Mecdemort | nope, still nil |
| 00:00.45 | Xinhuan | i was pretty certain strmatch doesn't allow text searching, but strfind does |
| 00:00.55 | Funkeh` | Kaydeethree: thanks, forgot ^^ |
| 00:00.58 | Xinhuan | but strfind returns an extra 2 numbers |
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| 00:01.16 | ckknight | oh, Mecdemort, it's cause you don't capture anything |
| 00:01.18 | Mecdemort | i thought strmatch = select(3,strfind()) |
| 00:01.19 | ckknight | basically |
| 00:01.24 | ckknight | Mecdemort: yes, but faster |
| 00:01.37 | Mecdemort | right, and say what? |
| 00:02.15 | ckknight | basically, though, for that, you need to use find, not match |
| 00:02.18 | ckknight | based on what you're doing |
| 00:02.25 | Xinhuan | you only wanted to know if it matches or not so strfind is sufficient |
| 00:02.40 | Mecdemort | ya, but why doesnt it work? |
| 00:02.53 | ckknight | Mecdemort: because you're not capturing anything, match won't return anything |
| 00:03.05 | ckknight | whereas find will return the first two values but no third |
| 00:03.11 | abug | are there any embeddable libs that include sound or images? |
| 00:03.11 | Mecdemort | oh i see |
| 00:03.45 | Mecdemort | wow str:find(str) returns nil too |
| 00:04.10 | Xinhuan | str:find(str, 1, true) |
| 00:04.24 | Mecdemort | nil |
| 00:04.38 | Mecdemort | wait, i cant type, it works! |
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| 00:12.26 | Mecdemort | find and match are case sensitive right? |
| 00:15.13 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:20.17 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r46666 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/Core.lua: BigWigs_WaveTimers: - Fixed possible sync error. |
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| 00:25.43 | Pkekyo | addon handling...is it the same on a mac as on a windows based computer? |
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| 00:27.05 | abug | the apple commercials tell you it's better and more reliable |
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| 00:27.46 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you mean addon handling? |
| 00:27.58 | NightHawkTheSane | abug: and it IS beter and more reliable ;) |
| 00:29.13 | loonacy | abug: To clarify, in some cases, it's better and more reliable. |
| 00:29.25 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: pretty much addon in general, and everything that has to do with addons... |
| 00:29.32 | ckknight | Pkekyo: it's the same. |
| 00:29.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: lol, well that's a broad statement, but yeah, more or less it'll be the same. |
| 00:29.58 | NightHawkTheSane | I think there might be some differences in what order addons are loaded. |
| 00:30.55 | abug | unless you count IsMacClient() |
| 00:32.13 | abug | hmm addons that intentionally break down when mac clients are detected... |
| 00:32.19 | tinyboom | can anyone tell me which actionbar addon is the most lightweight atm? :) using bartender3 atm |
| 00:32.23 | ckknight | question: should users set colors based on [0, 1] or [0, 255]? |
| 00:32.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: 0-255 |
| 00:32.40 | NightHawkTheSane | afaik, thats the standard for color selection |
| 00:32.40 | JoshBorke | 0-255 |
| 00:32.44 | JoshBorke | same as everything else |
| 00:33.10 | ckknight | well, no, hue is [0, 359], val is [0, 1], sat is [0, 1] |
| 00:33.11 | Pkekyo | agreed |
| 00:33.20 | JoshBorke | tinyboom: i like bongos myself, but use whichever |
| 00:33.27 | JoshBorke | tinyboom: blizzard's is the most lightweight |
| 00:33.38 | Wobin | ckknight: Well go with the standard |
| 00:33.43 | tinyboom | JoshBorke: except blizzards... |
| 00:33.49 | ckknight | I'll go with [0, 255] |
| 00:34.01 | tinyboom | JoshBorke: might try the new bongos |
| 00:34.09 | JoshBorke | i delete all the extra fluff |
| 00:34.15 | JoshBorke | just use options and buttons |
| 00:34.21 | Wobin | ckknight: except for h/s/v |
| 00:34.27 | JoshBorke | the button skinner isn't compatible, but i deal |
| 00:34.29 | ckknight | Wobin: right |
| 00:34.39 | ckknight | Wobin: question though, what do I do about alpha? [0, 255] or [0, 1]? |
| 00:34.46 | NightHawkTheSane | 0-1 |
| 00:34.48 | JoshBorke | 0-100 |
| 00:34.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well,either way. |
| 00:34.59 | ckknight | well, yea, it'll be [0, 100] in percentage |
| 00:35.34 | Pkekyo | lmfao, Mac vs Windows argument on some IT forums, a guy is explaining windows as a pathogen :> |
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| 00:36.14 | mikma | oh, oh, my actionbar addon is lightweight |
| 00:36.19 | Pkekyo | Pathologic Species: |
| 00:36.19 | Pkekyo | Windows 3.11 |
| 00:36.19 | Pkekyo | Windows 95 |
| 00:36.19 | Pkekyo | Windows 98 |
| 00:36.19 | Pkekyo | Windows 2000 |
| 00:36.20 | Pkekyo | Windows Millennium |
| 00:36.22 | Pkekyo | Windows XP |
| 00:36.24 | Pkekyo | Windows Vista |
| 00:36.26 | Pkekyo | Transmission: |
| 00:36.28 | Pkekyo | Buying a computer with Windows pre-installed |
| 00:36.32 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: yeah, but is it ACE2?!~!!! |
| 00:36.35 | durcyn | Pkekyo: stop. |
| 00:36.41 | Pkekyo | durcyn: just did |
| 00:36.45 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: of course not! |
| 00:37.08 | NightHawkTheSane | psh! :P |
| 00:37.14 | mikma | it uses only 1 library. Pagemaster-1.0 |
| 00:37.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Pagemaster? That sounds like some shitty wanna-be-a-real-fantasy movie. |
| 00:37.59 | mikma | you are too young to remember Bartender2 and Bartender2_Pagemaster |
| 00:38.19 | Sinaloit | Quick question, what would EyeCandy be considered X-Category wise? Interface Enhancement is what i'm assuming was meant when it was set to Interface but its technically just an example addon for CandyBar |
| 00:38.31 | NightHawkTheSane | No, I'm not, I probably would have made the same comment about that though ;) |
| 00:38.42 | mikma | hehee |
| 00:39.07 | durcyn | Sinaloit: library |
| 00:39.20 | Sinaloit | its not a library though its a demo of a library |
| 00:39.22 | mikma | oh look, bloodelves have their own domain!!! .be |
| 00:39.42 | Pkekyo | approx when is honor updated? |
| 00:39.42 | tinyboom | lol |
| 00:39.45 | NightHawkTheSane | bah. where's the troll domain? oh, wait, they have 4chan, n/m. >.> |
| 00:40.06 | ckknight | Pkekyo: 3 AM server time, afaik |
| 00:40.12 | ckknight | or something like that |
| 00:40.48 | Pkekyo | goddamnitall |
| 00:41.14 | Diao | between 2-3am |
| 00:41.15 | Diao | PST |
| 00:41.18 | Diao | for US servers |
| 00:41.21 | Diao | not sure about any other zones |
| 00:42.28 | Pkekyo | first someone said 1am |
| 00:42.39 | ckknight | woo, got my 7-slider color thingy working |
| 00:42.40 | Pkekyo | so I waited until 1am, then someone said 2am |
| 00:42.45 | ckknight | and it looks both pimp and usable |
| 00:42.48 | ckknight | gotta go now |
| 00:42.50 | Pkekyo | so I waited until 2 am, then someone said 3am |
| 00:42.52 | ckknight | cya |
| 00:43.00 | Pkekyo | 7 sliders? |
| 00:43.07 | Pkekyo | byes |
| 00:43.11 | Diao | servers usually lag |
| 00:43.14 | Diao | for about 10 min |
| 00:43.18 | Diao | when the honor rollover occurs |
| 00:43.43 | ckknight | Pkekyo: hue, sat, val, red, green, blue, alpha |
| 00:43.45 | Gagorian | honor update is 2:35 server usually on EU. |
| 00:43.48 | Gagorian | (al'akir) |
| 00:43.55 | Pkekyo | I've gotta fucking learn to sleep the night before an important exam >.< |
| 00:44.00 | ckknight | altering hue/sat/val will chnage red/green/blue automatically, and vice-versa |
| 00:44.06 | ckknight | and it's all colored |
| 00:44.10 | ckknight | okay, leaving |
| 00:44.19 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.34 | Diao | cya |
| 00:44.40 | Diao | what time zone Gagorian? |
| 00:44.58 | Gagorian | CET (GMT +1) |
| 00:45.24 | Pkekyo | that would be mine as well..not updated yet though, 02:45 here allready |
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| 00:45.49 | Diao | ah |
| 00:47.49 | Wobin | rofl |
| 00:48.00 | Wobin | how on earth did they manage this without screwing copyright? |
| 00:48.00 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYweptE-dl0 |
| 00:48.56 | vithos | ckknight: nice, i <3 HSV |
| 00:49.01 | CIA-14 | 03vputz * r46667 10Casualty/Casualty.toc: Casualty: Fixed errant external reference in toc |
| 00:50.49 | Pkekyo | lmao, that street fighter ripoff was awesome |
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| 00:54.52 | CIA-14 | 03sinaloit * r46668 10BigBrother/ (. BigBrother.toc): |
| 00:54.52 | CIA-14 | BigBrother: |
| 00:54.52 | CIA-14 | - Added tsvn:logtemplate |
| 00:54.52 | CIA-14 | - Added X-Category: Raid |
| 00:58.21 | CIA-14 | 03Octane666 * r46669 10SpamMeNot/ (Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 00:58.21 | CIA-14 | SpamMeNot: |
| 00:58.21 | CIA-14 | - SpamMeNot was hooking UIParent_OnEvent, which unfortunately is a secure |
| 00:58.21 | CIA-14 | function for some reason. This was occasionally causing errors, most noticably |
| 00:58.21 | CIA-14 | when replace enchants / poisons etc. It no longer hooks that function. |
| 00:58.54 | Antiarc | http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070814/ids_photos_en/r2729332399.jpg;_ylt=AswQHeqMTVwXAWbB.AnsXP4DW7oF <--- holy crap, fifteen O_O |
| 00:58.59 | Pkekyo | anyone mind telling me what the hell Skittles is? |
| 00:59.11 | Pkekyo | Antiarc: no. simply no. |
| 00:59.15 | Antiarc | Iiiii know. |
| 00:59.22 | Antiarc | w. t. f. |
| 00:59.26 | NightHawkTheSane | what?!? |
| 00:59.27 | NightHawkTheSane | no way. |
| 00:59.32 | ulic | skittles are broken bits of the rainbow :) |
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| 00:59.40 | Antiarc | Congratulations, you can all feel dirty now. |
| 00:59.44 | Pkekyo | well, maybe the girl is, but her tits aren't... |
| 00:59.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: and i totally do too |
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| 00:59.59 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: I know :( |
| 01:00.06 | Pkekyo | I've been dirty for ages, but thanks for trying :> |
| 01:00.35 | Pkekyo | I've got one question though...if that girl is 15, what happened to her face? |
| 01:00.57 | Antiarc | Maybe she's born with it |
| 01:01.01 | Antiarc | Maybe it's Maybelline |
| 01:01.06 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 01:01.42 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 01:01.55 | Cryect | Drugs happened to it |
| 01:02.01 | Pkekyo | yeah, looks like it |
| 01:02.12 | Pkekyo | although it looks like she's 25 and THEN drugs happened to it |
| 01:02.17 | Cryect | hah yeah |
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| 01:03.10 | Antiarc | I love how Pidgin randomly decides to close |
| 01:03.12 | NightHawkTheSane | druids get sea cow form at level 16 yeah? |
| 01:03.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: o_0 never had that happen to me. |
| 01:03.33 | Pkekyo | sea cow? O.o aquatic tauren? :D |
| 01:03.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: well, i'm a tauren, so for me it's sea cow form. :P |
| 01:04.18 | Pkekyo | that's it, I'm leveling my durid to lvl 16 now, GEIF SEA COW |
| 01:04.47 | Pkekyo | he's lvl 12.89 allready soeh...not much work :> |
| 01:05.01 | Antiarc | What do you call a one-legged Tauren? |
| 01:05.09 | Antiarc | Lean beef. |
| 01:05.15 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 01:05.26 | Pkekyo | don't know about that, but I call my tauren druid Ibringbeef |
| 01:05.45 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, you'd think all the tauren/meat/cow jokes would get old, but really, they just don't |
| 01:05.55 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 01:06.11 | Pkekyo | my shammy's named Beefhoof... |
| 01:06.11 | Pkekyo | if taurens ever get rogues, his name's gonna be Sneakbeef :> |
| 01:06.24 | Antiarc | I want to roleplay a no-legged tauren |
| 01:06.25 | Chompers | Antiarc: i am actually a cow in real life and i find your joke offensive |
| 01:06.29 | Antiarc | He shall be named Groundbeef |
| 01:06.36 | Pkekyo | ahahah |
| 01:06.51 | Sinaloit | a female tauren mage could be called a beefwich.. too bad no mages :\ |
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| 01:07.10 | NightHawkTheSane | it'd work for shaman too |
| 01:07.45 | Antiarc | I should get my wife to roll a mage with me |
| 01:07.48 | Pkekyo | tbh, taurens should have rogues...they look sooo fucking imba in the Bloodfang set it's not even funny |
| 01:07.50 | Antiarc | We'll be Witch and Which |
| 01:08.00 | Antiarc | Then you'll never know Which Witch is Which (or Witch) |
| 01:08.23 | Bruners | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpSlpvb1is&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewwtdd%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ephtml |
| 01:08.29 | Bruners | haha, thats a good one |
| 01:09.50 | Wobin | It's true |
| 01:09.54 | Wobin | I want a tauren rogue |
| 01:09.57 | Wobin | SNEAKSNEAKSNEAK |
| 01:10.27 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 01:11.55 | Pkekyo | what enchant should I get on my epix pvp boots? |
| 01:12.47 | NightHawkTheSane | boar's speed? |
| 01:13.39 | Pkekyo | what does it do? :> |
| 01:13.45 | NightHawkTheSane | +8 sta, minor runspeed |
| 01:13.52 | NightHawkTheSane | can't you look these up yourself? |
| 01:14.18 | Sinaloit | or surefoot, which is hit rating and snare/root resist |
| 01:15.25 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, sta/run speed seems better, to me |
| 01:15.50 | Antiarc | you can get runspeed in a meta for PVP, but the snare resist is sexy. |
| 01:16.30 | nymbia | stun resist in the meta! ;) |
| 01:16.54 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia! |
| 01:18.24 | nymbia | where?!? |
| 01:18.48 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not sure, but I've got my gun ready in case he shows up again |
| 01:18.59 | rubik | hmm.. background downloader.. they pushing out 2.2.0 eh? |
| 01:19.16 | ulic | maybe artwork |
| 01:19.25 | ulic | they pushed out artwork early last time. |
| 01:19.27 | ulic | iirc |
| 01:19.27 | NightHawkTheSane | probably random porn just to get your hopes up about 2.2 |
| 01:19.29 | rubik | yeah.. early/finalized stuff |
| 01:19.33 | rubik | 54.6MB |
| 01:19.39 | rubik | that's not that much pr0n |
| 01:21.02 | rubik | just wow-partial-1.mpq included |
| 01:22.28 | ulic | since they just enabled voice last week, you have to figure at least 2 weeks before release, I'd think. |
| 01:26.17 | Pkekyo | may blizzard burn eternally for nerfing netherwing ledge |
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| 01:26.33 | Sinaloit | I thought they said voice would be in the 2.2 patch but not activated until the 2.3 |
| 01:27.01 | ulic | I didn't hear that, and it doesn't make sense to me, but I don't know. |
| 01:27.10 | Pkekyo | anyone believe the voice patch will remove the use of vent/TS? |
| 01:27.33 | NightHawkTheSane | it won't. |
| 01:27.58 | Wobin | doubt it |
| 01:28.12 | Wobin | people still log into Vent/Ts outside of WoW |
| 01:28.22 | Amadeo | I was using voice on PTR |
| 01:28.24 | Wobin | or if they're not part of the raid/guild |
| 01:28.29 | Amadeo | My friend said they couldn't hear me when I spoke |
| 01:28.33 | Amadeo | it was muffled sounding |
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| 01:29.16 | Amadeo | on my end things sounded ok though |
| 01:29.49 | Pkekyo | also, how the hell are 'normal mortals' supposed to get epix flyers? |
| 01:29.57 | Wobin | grinding cash |
| 01:30.00 | Wobin | and dailies |
| 01:30.28 | Wobin | Hm, you need to do the 5man ogrechain setup to do the ogre quests in ogrila, don't you? |
| 01:30.31 | Sinaloit | how did they nerf netherwing ledge? |
| 01:30.35 | Sinaloit | yeah :\ |
| 01:30.40 | Wobin | bah =( |
| 01:30.46 | TecnoBrat | ~wau |
| 01:30.47 | purl | wau is, like, WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily. |
| 01:30.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: yeah |
| 01:31.05 | Pkekyo | Sinaloit: it was THE BEST spot in all of azeroth to farm adamantite ore, then they added the netherwing content patch, and the mineral nodes all went away |
| 01:31.09 | NightHawkTheSane | but its really easy to earn the money for your epic even without dailies |
| 01:31.29 | Wobin | It just takes time =P |
| 01:31.30 | Pkekyo | I got to 2.5k |
| 01:31.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: everything takes time. |
| 01:31.37 | Pkekyo | then I blew it all on epic BS plans |
| 01:32.01 | Amadeo | when expansion comes there will probably be some new epic flyer that will be like 400% speed and 10,000 gold, just to grind it over again :P |
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| 01:32.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: possibly, but such is the nature of mmogs |
| 01:32.30 | Mikk | i doubt we'll see faster flyers tbh |
| 01:32.34 | rubik | i'm not buying/grinding for an epic flier until they lower the price.. current price is 100% bullshit for casual players |
| 01:32.39 | Mikk | game engine can't even keep up with current speeds |
| 01:32.42 | Jp^ | gr.. finaly they ll make level 39248934 and probably instant teleporters over anyware on the map |
| 01:32.47 | Pkekyo | rubik: indeed |
| 01:32.47 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: no,it's not. you're justlazy |
| 01:32.48 | Mikk | mobs and resource nodes become visible BEHIND you |
| 01:32.59 | Jp^ | it will be like a skill worth 1mil gold |
| 01:33.15 | Mikk | rubik: bull. i bought my epic flyer from quest cash alone. |
| 01:33.34 | Mikk | and that was before dailies |
| 01:33.36 | Ordog | 5k gold is nothing ^^ |
| 01:33.50 | Ordog | im so casual im not even playing anymore |
| 01:33.51 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i got an epic mount on two characters before dailies. |
| 01:34.00 | Ordog | ok im tailor .,.. |
| 01:34.31 | Pkekyo | I can't even get enough gold to keep up with my expenses, won't ever get near epic flyer |
| 01:34.41 | Ordog | 1st or 2nd that chain produced 20 slot bags and sold em for 850g in the first week ;P |
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| 01:34.51 | Ordog | on our server that is |
| 01:34.53 | Sinaloit | Why am I envisioning 40 random people talking in the trade channel... WTS <blah> is not what i want to hear coming out of my speakers.. let alone gold ads lol |
| 01:35.12 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 01:35.22 | Mikk | i somehow doubt open channels will be voicable |
| 01:35.29 | Pkekyo | a voice add for peons4hire would be interesting |
| 01:35.29 | Mikk | the bandwidth multiplication would be immense |
| 01:35.31 | Keias | I wanna hear gold ads |
| 01:35.39 | Keias | The engrish would be amazing |
| 01:35.40 | Pkekyo | will probably only be party/raid voice |
| 01:35.54 | Sinaloit | Q: Can I speak in custom voice chat channels? |
| 01:35.55 | Sinaloit | A: Yes, custom voice chat channels seamlessly work with existing custom chat channels such as raid, group, battlegrounds, healing, melee, etc. You can also create custom chat channels and use them to communicate with any other players who are in them. |
| 01:36.18 | Sinaloit | hopefully that means no standard channels heh |
| 01:36.19 | Tinhay | I believe BG voip was canceled for now |
| 01:36.42 | ulic | you choose which channels to listen/talk in, can only be active in one at a time. |
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| 01:37.26 | Ordog | in bgs only the captain should be allowed to speak or sth |
| 01:37.39 | Pkekyo | BG voip abuse would be immense |
| 01:37.45 | Sinaloit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=942815294&sid=1 the post was edited 8/10 and mentions BGs |
| 01:37.50 | Ordog | HEAL ME YOU FUCKTARD! all day long! |
| 01:37.51 | Ordog | ^^ |
| 01:38.11 | Pkekyo | indeed /sigh |
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| 01:38.25 | Sinaloit | Q: Does voice chat work in guild chat or when using the “/say” command to talk to characters in your immediate vicinity? |
| 01:38.25 | Sinaloit | A: At this time, the integrated voice chat feature does not work in guild chat, “/say,” global defense, trade, or any public chat channel. However, we may look into offering voice chat functionality for the guild chat channel in the future. |
| 01:38.32 | Sinaloit | yay, no public chat channels |
| 01:39.02 | Pkekyo | phew |
| 01:39.25 | Pkekyo | rofl, druid on the warrior forums "why does warriors use 2h weapons in arenas?" |
| 01:41.44 | Pkekyo | at times I come close to saying that the t2 blacksmith weapons are overpowered |
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| 01:42.09 | Pkekyo | and then I remember that 2.5k+ crits are FUN |
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| 01:49.14 | Pkekyo | anyone else having problems with the BG-spam filtering of Prat? |
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| 01:52.44 | ccKep | eu login servers down methinks.... |
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| 01:54.47 | Pkekyo | anyone done this assault on Bash'ir landing quest before? |
| 01:55.26 | ravagernl | hey guys, how about fubar_microphone to quickly toggle voice chat :P |
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| 01:55.53 | NightHawkTheSane | it could probably just be integrated into volumefu |
| 01:56.02 | silentium | Pkekyo: yep, with 8 ppl so we got to the first vendor (which sells unstable flasks) |
| 01:56.04 | Pkekyo | or in FuBar_VoiceFu |
| 01:56.15 | Pkekyo | silentium: what's it all about? |
| 01:56.44 | Pkekyo | <-- sitting around waiting for the mob's countdown to finish |
| 01:57.24 | silentium | you have to defend some skyguard NPCs brom attacking mobs, after a while a vendor spawns that sells unstable flasks (similar to the "of the beast" and "of the sorcerer", just with different stats) |
| 01:57.41 | Wobin | Very useful in Gruul |
| 01:57.55 | Pkekyo | is it a daily? |
| 01:57.57 | Wobin | we often do that event (first stage) to flask up our raid for Gruul |
| 01:58.02 | silentium | then more and stronger mobs come, and towers spawn that bomb you, at that point a 25man raid is suggested so I havent seen yet what you get as reward |
| 01:58.03 | Pkekyo | - does it give gold? |
| 01:58.06 | Wobin | it happens once a day I think |
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| 01:58.15 | Wobin | I've never seen it to completion |
| 01:58.16 | silentium | the NPCs spawn every 2 hours |
| 01:58.22 | Pkekyo | I just started the event...solo :P |
| 01:58.22 | Wobin | ah that's right |
| 01:58.27 | Wobin | good luck =) |
| 01:58.32 | Wobin | keep the technician alive |
| 01:58.35 | Pkekyo | soeh..I'm screwed? |
| 01:58.38 | rubik | is there a way to color all text in a diff. color (per channel)? wih Prat? |
| 01:58.39 | Wobin | yah =) |
| 01:58.52 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 01:59.02 | Pkekyo | gonna go bomb some cannons instead then :> |
| 01:59.33 | silentium | that'll be more useful if you are alone :) |
| 02:00.34 | kergoth | Cryect, ping |
| 02:01.12 | rubik | lol.. n/m.. chat channel coloring is default behavior |
| 02:02.44 | CIA-14 | 03archarodim * r46670 10Decursive/ (10 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 02:02.44 | CIA-14 | Decursive: |
| 02:02.44 | CIA-14 | - Pet management enhancement: |
| 02:02.44 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.44 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.45 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.47 | CIA-14 | - Small optimization when using cleansing spells (blacklist handling). |
| 02:03.06 | silentium | Pkekyo: http://www.wowwiki.com/Bash%27ir_Landing_Raid more details if you are interested |
| 02:04.06 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r46671 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Significantly more accurate timers for the 2 horde camp bosses. |
| 02:04.36 | Pkekyo | silentium: cheers |
| 02:05.30 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 02:05.46 | ckknight | so I have an idea |
| 02:05.54 | ckknight | I got from reading The Pragmatic Programmer |
| 02:06.16 | ckknight | for Joker, I'm thinking of adding the capability of design-by-contract |
| 02:06.25 | Pkekyo | hai ckknight |
| 02:06.33 | ckknight | e.g. type-checking, context-checking, etc. |
| 02:06.51 | ckknight | and much like unit tests, they would only be executed if it's specifically set on |
| 02:07.05 | ckknight | therefore there wouldn't be needless slowdown in a release environment |
| 02:07.29 | ckknight | currently typechecking happens all the time, and it's tedious |
| 02:07.32 | Borked|Raider | http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=411552 |
| 02:07.33 | Borked|Raider | EPIC |
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| 02:08.23 | ckknight | doing a precondition(object, 'method', function(self, arg1, arg2) assert(type(arg1) == "string") end) could be pretty handy |
| 02:08.45 | ckknight | and there'd be postcondition as well |
| 02:09.14 | loonacy | Does UNIT_SPELLMISS still work? I've been running around with my mage and nothing seems to trigger it. |
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| 02:09.41 | ckknight | lol, Borked|Raider |
| 02:09.56 | Borked|Raider | i found it epic atleast, old but good |
| 02:10.15 | rubik | Borked|Raider: omg.. cracking up here |
| 02:10.25 | rubik | and only halfway through first page now |
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| 02:13.34 | ckknight | lol, >What about the Jews? Or perhaps you've chosen to eliminate them entirely? |
| 02:13.52 | rubik | i was just about to paste that but thought i shouldn't.. lol |
| 02:14.07 | Borked|Raider | :) |
| 02:14.47 | ckknight | I'm sure we're all familiar with jews |
| 02:15.22 | rubik | haha.. just sounded "wrong" is all |
| 02:15.22 | ckknight | and I'd recite a few anti-semetic statements, but I think that it will be taken out of context later |
| 02:15.31 | ckknight | so I'll refrain |
| 02:15.35 | rubik | lol @ the html example on page 2 |
| 02:15.40 | rubik | (of epic thread) |
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| 02:18.13 | Chompers | "THIS IS A PAGE, NOTICE A PAGE, NOT A MMORPG" |
| 02:19.36 | Funkeh` | urg |
| 02:20.06 | Jp^ | realms down? |
| 02:20.22 | Funkeh` | I'm down |
| 02:20.28 | Jp^ | i cant connect.. |
| 02:20.32 | Wobin | What server? |
| 02:20.54 | Wobin | us has a few servers down for extended extended extended maintenence |
| 02:20.57 | Funkeh` | Well I thought the auth servers were down |
| 02:21.01 | Funkeh` | Then my whole net crashed |
| 02:21.04 | Funkeh` | so not sure |
| 02:21.04 | Pkekyo | honored comes after friendly, no? |
| 02:21.09 | Funkeh` | But its still crashing |
| 02:21.15 | Wobin | Pkekyo: yeah |
| 02:21.22 | Wobin | Then revered then exalted |
| 02:21.22 | Funkeh` | fucking BT |
| 02:21.49 | ckknight | Just take a look at the greatest Jewish minds ever. Marx, Freud, Einstein. What have they given us? Communism, infantile sexuality, and the atom bomb. |
| 02:21.49 | Funkeh` | oh windows update, great, brb |
| 02:21.51 | Chompers | my buddy can't login |
| 02:22.03 | Chompers | eu auth servers could be down |
| 02:23.00 | Mecdemort | is there a way to cancel all DelayedMessages in BigWigs? |
| 02:23.12 | Pkekyo | infantile sexuality? |
| 02:23.14 | Mecdemort | well, the ones that a specific module have set |
| 02:23.38 | ckknight | Pkekyo: Freud was the one who first put it in writing and popularized it |
| 02:23.52 | Pkekyo | ckknight: ok, but exactly what is it? |
| 02:24.00 | ckknight | children as sexual beings |
| 02:24.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: google is your friend |
| 02:24.17 | Pkekyo | basicly "you show me yours and I'll show you mine"? |
| 02:24.31 | JoshBorke | no, i don't believe you are summarizing freud correctly ckknight |
| 02:24.55 | JoshBorke | ~wiki Freud |
| 02:25.03 | JoshBorke | ~wikipedia Freud |
| 02:25.05 | JoshBorke | nvm |
| 02:25.19 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r46672 10GridLayoutForHealers/GridLayoutForHealers.lua: |
| 02:25.19 | CIA-14 | GridLayoutForHealers : |
| 02:25.19 | CIA-14 | - Fixed localization koKR |
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| 02:25.53 | Pkekyo | meh, all the good dailies require epic mount flying skill :< |
| 02:26.18 | Xinhuan | interesting. strlen(0) returns 1 and strlen(-0) returns 2 |
| 02:26.21 | Pkekyo | and the dailies is what I need to get the epic flyer skill >.< |
| 02:26.29 | ckknight | JoshBorke: especially seeing as it isn't my quote, it's from The Believer |
| 02:26.31 | ckknight | good movie |
| 02:26.40 | ckknight | about a jewish Nazi |
| 02:26.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: no they're not. l2farm, or l2gather skill |
| 02:26.50 | ckknight | Xinhuan: tostring(-0) == "-0" |
| 02:26.51 | Diao | well isn't |
| 02:26.56 | Diao | yeah |
| 02:27.18 | Xinhuan | that's the interesting part, why is tostring(-0) == "-0 |
| 02:27.19 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: mining is fucking useless without epic flyer skill... |
| 02:27.20 | Xinhuan | " |
| 02:27.29 | Gngsk | Pkekyo, got an epic ground mount? |
| 02:27.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: no it's not, it's just slower. |
| 02:27.50 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: because -0 doesn't make sense as a number |
| 02:27.54 | Pkekyo | aye, but that doesn't help when some chinese dickwad on an epic flyer is right ahead of me taking all the bloody ores |
| 02:27.58 | ckknight | Xinhuan: because its sign is negative. Read the IEEE-754 spec. |
| 02:28.06 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 02:28.11 | JoshBorke | therefore it must already be something else |
| 02:28.14 | Xinhuan | did you memorise that IEEE spec number? |
| 02:28.20 | ckknight | JoshBorke: sure it does, signum(-0) == -1, but signum(0) == 1 |
| 02:28.26 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yes, so? |
| 02:28.27 | Gngsk | Pkekyo, spend an hour or so in plaguelands, smelt thorium bars, ???, profit |
| 02:28.31 | Xinhuan | crazy |
| 02:28.39 | ckknight | I also memorized the spec itself |
| 02:28.40 | Pkekyo | thorium? O.o |
| 02:28.44 | Gngsk | aye |
| 02:28.48 | Gngsk | still needed for skilling up |
| 02:28.51 | Gngsk | people don't wanna farm it |
| 02:29.54 | Pkekyo | looking into thorium prices on my server atm |
| 02:30.45 | Pkekyo | I had 20 primal life...price was really fucking high at the time...let a guildie borrow them...when I got'em back they was at like...10-12g >.< |
| 02:31.16 | Pkekyo | bastards |
| 02:31.35 | Pkekyo | is there anyway to force instant logout? |
| 02:31.47 | Xinhuan | yes - alt-f4 |
| 02:32.27 | Xinhuan | the game server still waits 20 sec before making you disappear from the gameworld unless you're in an inn |
| 02:34.10 | Pkekyo | well that sucks :> |
| 02:35.01 | Funkeh` | Well EU login servers definately down |
| 02:36.04 | Pkekyo | ohnoes |
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| 02:37.12 | HarveyDent | I am being told there is a new revision of Omen available yet the latest on WAU and the repository are not that version |
| 02:37.30 | HarveyDent | in-game, I am being told by Omen that r46655 is the latest |
| 02:38.06 | HarveyDent | while I have (and can only find) r45064 |
| 02:38.09 | Mecdemort | any bigwigs devs around? |
| 02:38.24 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 02:38.39 | Mikk | I have prodded bigwigs generals, but don't ask me for actual bossmod details |
| 02:38.52 | Mecdemort | Is there a way to cancel all DelayedMessages from a module |
| 02:39.19 | Funkeh` | No, thats why I don't use the DelayedMessage API when I want to cancel a message |
| 02:39.56 | HarveyDent | speaking of BWBM... which is generally regarded as more accurate? |
| 02:40.00 | HarveyDent | DBM or BWBM? |
| 02:40.07 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 02:40.10 | Funkeh` | go try for yourself |
| 02:40.28 | NightHawkTheSane | isn't that kind of silly to ask in the channel where the BW developers hang out? |
| 02:40.29 | Mikk | To be quite frank, it depends on the boss. But DBM rips a lot of code from BW. |
| 02:40.45 | Funkeh` | the fuck, did a windows update and now my xml files have a new icon, that was worth it |
| 02:40.55 | Mecdemort | my MT runs DBM and bigwigs seems to pick up a lot more than DBM |
| 02:41.04 | HarveyDent | Yes it's really silly for me to ask which is considered more accurate, in the channel the devs for one of them hang out. |
| 02:41.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: Also, mage armor has a new icon! :D |
| 02:41.09 | HarveyDent | I can see how silly that is. |
| 02:41.40 | HarveyDent | We just did Doomwalker and are on our farm run for Magtheridon |
| 02:41.54 | HarveyDent | during DW, DBM's bars kept disappearing midway through the fight |
| 02:42.01 | HarveyDent | would you say that's common or expected? |
| 02:42.14 | NightHawkTheSane | HarveyDent: If i were the developer, for anything, and I even remotely thought my code was less accurate than a competetors I would do something about it and make it at least as, if not more accurate. So the default assumption for any developer is generally going to be that their code is the best. |
| 02:42.19 | HarveyDent | We kept having issues with the earthquake CD timer just.. up and disappearing |
| 02:42.38 | Funkeh` | For DW in specific? Not unless the bars were replaced with the3 same bar with a larger timer |
| 02:42.42 | Mecdemort | will CancelScheduledEvent throw an error if the event doesnt exist |
| 02:42.48 | Funkeh` | - the 3 :s |
| 02:43.00 | HarveyDent | yeah it wasn't replaced at all was the thing |
| 02:43.04 | HarveyDent | that what we thought |
| 02:43.05 | Funkeh` | Nope, iirc |
| 02:43.10 | Funkeh` | Its silent |
| 02:43.14 | HarveyDent | but for at least six of us, the bars just were gone |
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| 02:43.29 | HarveyDent | like it'd be ticking down from 60 and all of a sudden at like 48s left, they;'d just vanish |
| 02:43.37 | Mecdemort | goodie, i'll just use those to cancel |
| 02:43.41 | ckknight | no, Mecdemort |
| 02:43.48 | Funkeh` | Not sure, but for DW in specific theres only really 2 things to time, and theres no abilities that would suddenly make another ability on a timer stop |
| 02:44.06 | HarveyDent | thats what we were hoping |
| 02:44.08 | Mikk | Smells like a dbm bug then |
| 02:44.22 | Funkeh` | ckknight: Is there actually a reason to use IsEventScheduled these days? or whatever it was |
| 02:44.30 | Funkeh` | Before cancelling |
| 02:44.34 | ckknight | no |
| 02:44.38 | Funkeh` | cool |
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| 02:44.46 | Mikk | I've never had a problem with bw not telling me exactly when quakes are inc |
| 02:44.50 | HarveyDent | we can run that encounter "naked" but it's basically just helpful to keep the pacing to have the timers so.. we were hoping it wasn't just some random replacement of the timers. Good to know :) |
| 02:45.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 02:45.19 | Mikk | (Then again, there's not much you can do about quakes, unless you're a healer and want to make sure people are topped up) |
| 02:45.27 | HarveyDent | heehe yeah thats true |
| 02:45.31 | HarveyDent | it's more just our DPS |
| 02:45.54 | HarveyDent | we have maed out shaman and druids taking care of the heals so we dont have our tanks pull out |
| 02:46.08 | HarveyDent | the timers help for just keeping everyone based |
| 02:46.12 | HarveyDent | *paced |
| 02:46.25 | Funkeh` | Mecdemort: Curator module is a good example of where cancelling is abused a lot |
| 02:46.40 | HarveyDent | I'll give it a shot |
| 02:46.45 | Mecdemort | what does it do? |
| 02:46.58 | HarveyDent | ah and another big thing for the guild is going to be LoD. I'm assuming BW is LoD |
| 02:47.05 | Mikk | of course |
| 02:47.10 | HarveyDent | k, figured as much |
| 02:47.15 | Funkeh` | If you use WowAceUpdater it will be automatic |
| 02:47.29 | HarveyDent | we'll give it a shot tomorrow on kael |
| 02:47.30 | Funkeh` | If you download manually you will need to use the .bat file |
| 02:47.38 | Mecdemort | Basically for the wave timers i'm starting a bar when the new wave comes, then setting delayed messages for 90,60,30 seconds left. Is there maybe a better way to do it? |
| 02:48.16 | Mikk | Ummmm why so many messages? That's what timerbars are all about |
| 02:48.29 | Mikk | You're not supposed to have to scream lots about these kinds of things :S |
| 02:48.32 | Funkeh` | Mecdemort: If you want to cancel them for any occasion use self:ScheduleEvent("randomname", "BigWigs_Message", time, ...) |
| 02:49.00 | Funkeh` | then self:CancelScheduledEvent("randomname") |
| 02:49.45 | Mecdemort | ok |
| 02:50.41 | Mecdemort | that'll work a lot better than using a bunch of dummy vars |
| 02:50.50 | Funkeh` | Well good thing about servers down is I'll download the patch now |
| 02:53.58 | Mecdemort | so self:DelayedMessage(time, msg, "Urgent") becomes self:ScheduleEvent(name, "BigWigs_Message", time, msg, "Urgent") ? |
| 02:54.30 | Funkeh` | Yeah |
| 02:54.41 | Mecdemort | ok thanks |
| 02:54.43 | Funkeh` | Take a look at Prototype.lua |
| 02:54.53 | Mecdemort | ok |
| 02:55.06 | Mikk | ... patch? what patch? o.O |
| 02:55.24 | Funkeh` | 1st partial for 2.2 is on the background downloader |
| 02:55.27 | HarveyDent | hey about Omen though, someone in the raid is using a newer version than what is available on the wowace file repository |
| 02:55.45 | Funkeh` | HarveyDent: Reload your WAU index file and try updating |
| 02:56.08 | HarveyDent | in MAU, is that just by hitting "Refresh List" ? |
| 02:56.17 | HarveyDent | I've done that several times and it's still just r45064 |
| 02:56.25 | Mikk | Noone has newer versions than what exists on files.wowace.com, not even developers |
| 02:56.28 | HarveyDent | this guy is apparently using r46655 |
| 02:56.35 | Mikk | The revision is created when files are comitted to the repo |
| 02:56.37 | HarveyDent | just telling you what I am seeing |
| 02:56.46 | Mikk | And a few minutes after that, it becomes available |
| 02:57.02 | Funkeh` | theres a 46660 |
| 02:57.12 | HarveyDent | Omen is spamming me telling me there's a new version available "New version available! r 46655 (theguysname)" |
| 02:57.15 | Funkeh` | so /shrug |
| 02:57.19 | HarveyDent | huh.. weird |
| 02:57.31 | HarveyDent | he even pointed me to the wowace.com/wiki/omen page |
| 02:57.31 | Mikk | it's probably MAU being stupid |
| 02:57.33 | Mikk | it scrapes the web page |
| 02:57.49 | Funkeh` | 655 was when I added the Illidan module |
| 02:57.55 | Funkeh` | 660 is hen some guy translated it |
| 02:58.11 | Funkeh` | when* |
| 02:58.18 | HarveyDent | hrm .. ok if thats the case, can I check it out somewhere? going to the trac page doesn't even reveal any updates after r45064 |
| 02:58.29 | Mikk | r45064 is the latest when core Omen was changed |
| 02:58.33 | Funkeh` | hm |
| 02:58.44 | HarveyDent | we start BT next week |
| 02:58.50 | HarveyDent | so I was hoping to get this in order |
| 02:59.02 | Mikk | Stupid MAU |
| 02:59.14 | HarveyDent | yeah I truly wish it were updated |
| 02:59.24 | Funkeh` | http://trac.wowace.com/log/ shows me the latest |
| 02:59.27 | HarveyDent | several authors have changed how their addons are structured because of it |
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| 02:59.29 | Mikk | You can download from files.wowace.com manually, it'll do the right thing |
| 03:00.29 | Funkeh` | Are you using embed libraries? |
| 03:00.38 | Mikk | i'll just fix this |
| 03:00.40 | HarveyDent | no idea |
| 03:01.02 | Funkeh` | Well you probably are, just download manually from wowace |
| 03:01.07 | Mikk | i'm fixing it |
| 03:01.09 | HarveyDent | but daveish had to change AtlasLoot because MAU doesnt recognize some sort of file that tells MAU to unpack addons nested within a single folder |
| 03:01.27 | HarveyDent | also, the trac I was looking at was http://trac.wowace.com/log/trunk/Omen?action=follow_copy&rev=&stop_rev=&mode=follow_copy&verbose=on |
| 03:01.32 | HarveyDent | the one on the wiki/omen page |
| 03:01.37 | HarveyDent | (linked on) |
| 03:01.51 | HarveyDent | no clue there was that one you showed me |
| 03:01.53 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 03:02.25 | NightHawkTheSane | restructuring an addon because -one- program doesn't understand a file specific to -another- program? |
| 03:02.26 | Funkeh` | That would be the whole SVN repository |
| 03:02.40 | HarveyDent | yeah thats what is linked on the omen wiki page then |
| 03:02.49 | HarveyDent | I just clicked on "Trac" and that is what it showed me |
| 03:03.02 | CIA-14 | 03mikk * r46673 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: dummy. files.wowace.com prod |
| 03:03.19 | HarveyDent | Dave is a good guy like that. He wants to keep things as accessible as possible for all of his users |
| 03:03.35 | Mikk | There, in 18 minutes, MAU should download the right version. |
| 03:03.38 | Mikk | But this problem will keep appearing |
| 03:03.41 | HarveyDent | awesome :) |
| 03:03.46 | NightHawkTheSane | funny, I'd call him an idiot for that. |
| 03:03.51 | Funkeh` | me too |
| 03:03.57 | Mikk | It doesn't recognize that r12345.888 is newer than r12345.9 |
| 03:04.02 | HarveyDent | NightHawkSane - what addon do you develop that is used by millions of people? |
| 03:04.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: wonder if it does the same stupid thing that wau does.. |
| 03:04.41 | NightHawkTheSane | HarveyDent: o_0 kay, that's a non sequitur if I ever heard one. |
| 03:04.56 | Funkeh` | Sorry but I wouldn't change an addon to satisfy an out of date upldater |
| 03:04.58 | Mikk | possibly. i coerced pastamancer into starting the count at 1001 a while ago to work around it. |
| 03:05.00 | Mikk | but i see he's removed that. |
| 03:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: so it was you? grr! |
| 03:05.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: that was an idiotic change to support shitty programming in wau that would have taken thirty seconds to fix. |
| 03:05.37 | HarveyDent | he's satisfying moreso the thousands of users (if not more) that use a Mac and use MAU |
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| 03:06.05 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: it was a change designed to allow lots of stupid updaters out there, not under our control, to do the right thing, to a change they could not have foreseen |
| 03:06.07 | Funkeh` | Theres quite a lot more updates you can use that are updated and work on mac |
| 03:06.07 | HarveyDent | I think it's fairly proactive of him - rather than complicate things for a segment of users |
| 03:06.09 | HarveyDent | he keeps it simple for all users |
| 03:06.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: no, it was perfectly forseeable. |
| 03:06.23 | Funkeh` | How is that simple? He screwed it up for all WAU users, |
| 03:06.41 | HarveyDent | WAU users only have to tick off the individual addons |
| 03:06.44 | HarveyDent | nothing hard about that |
| 03:06.51 | Funkeh` | No |
| 03:06.56 | Funkeh` | He set it as externals or something |
| 03:06.56 | HarveyDent | 4 more checkmarks vs an entire audience having to download manually |
| 03:06.59 | Pkekyo | now I've done all available dailies...what more to do to get gold? |
| 03:07.07 | Funkeh` | Which bugged WAU, eneded up auto deleting the addons |
| 03:07.14 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: that a single integer version number would suddenly become two integers separated by a dot? that's not very foreseeable if you ask me |
| 03:07.22 | HarveyDent | So is it bad programming on WAU's part? or... |
| 03:07.29 | HarveyDent | because it works just fine on a Mac... lol |
| 03:07.40 | Funkeh` | No, thats general idiocy on hes aprt for changing hes addon for something out of date |
| 03:07.44 | Funkeh` | Its like downgrading |
| 03:07.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: no, not that, that x.y is not an integer, and can't be interpreted as such |
| 03:08.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: it's like designing your web pages to work with mac ie5 :P |
| 03:08.06 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: it didn't use to be .anything. it used to be a single integer number. |
| 03:08.19 | Mikk | The problem appeared when the dot was added |
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| 03:08.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: yeah, i know |
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| 03:08.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: and yeah, -that- wasn't forseeable |
| 03:08.39 | HarveyDent | all I know is that one both of my machines, Windows and Mac |
| 03:08.47 | HarveyDent | WAU and MAU handle updating AtlasLoot completely fine |
| 03:09.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: but when the change happened, wau just started interpreting it as adecimal, and not a version number, so it borked up when you got to >10 library revisions |
| 03:09.09 | Mikk | Yeah, I know |
| 03:09.20 | Mikk | Hence my suggestion to start counting at .1001 instead |
| 03:09.27 | Mikk | Because even if we could fix WAU in no time |
| 03:09.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: which was an idiotic suggesion |
| 03:09.31 | Mikk | There's other software out there |
| 03:09.36 | NightHawkTheSane | so? they can -change-0 |
| 03:09.39 | NightHawkTheSane | they SHOULD have changed |
| 03:09.47 | NightHawkTheSane | because it's WRONG to do it they way they were/are |
| 03:09.48 | Mikk | And silly users that don't upgrade every day like good little zealots |
| 03:09.58 | Mikk | And then their stuff breaks |
| 03:09.59 | Mikk | And they crai |
| 03:10.26 | NightHawkTheSane | so? let them fucking cry. |
| 03:10.36 | HarveyDent | Bottom line, again, is that AtlasLoot updates fine, now, on both MAU and WAU |
| 03:10.46 | HarveyDent | so I really don't see the basis of the arguement |
| 03:10.50 | Mikk | This is where our opinion differs I think. I prefer having stuff made for users actually work for users. |
| 03:10.53 | HarveyDent | yeah, could it be done better? |
| 03:10.55 | HarveyDent | sure |
| 03:10.57 | HarveyDent | but it works for everyone |
| 03:10.59 | HarveyDent | period. |
| 03:11.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: process and form are everything really. You just don't support doing things incorrectly, no matter how many users it affects. |
| 03:11.40 | HarveyDent | what other updater is there for Macs that works? |
| 03:11.46 | Mikk | I think we've had this discussion before on a different topic |
| 03:11.47 | HarveyDent | I'd gladly try them out |
| 03:11.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: probably, yes. it applies to many things. :P |
| 03:12.27 | Mikk | Where you keep coming down on the side of "if a user does not have an IQ of 130+, and zealotly read my mind on when it is time to do things, and WHAT to do, they deserve all the pain in the world that comes to them" |
| 03:12.36 | Mikk | And I come down on the ... well.. opposite side :P |
| 03:12.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: well, I don't pander to idiots. at all. :) |
| 03:13.15 | HarveyDent | It might take a few more million users to do that for NHTS |
| 03:13.25 | Mikk | Yer well I won't rehash all the revious points so I'll just agree to disagree :P |
| 03:13.31 | NightHawkTheSane | no amount of users would ever make me pander to idiots |
| 03:13.38 | HarveyDent | that's cool |
| 03:13.44 | HarveyDent | only limiting yourself really |
| 03:13.47 | HarveyDent | but thats cool |
| 03:13.52 | HarveyDent | each his own, etc. |
| 03:13.58 | NightHawkTheSane | but i also don';t care who uses what i develop, :) |
| 03:14.04 | HarveyDent | well there you go :) |
| 03:14.33 | Mikk | Yer. Clearly everyone is an idiot for updating WAU one day, and then hitting "update software" the next day, and have their AceEvent go tits-up and break every installed ace addon |
| 03:14.37 | NightHawkTheSane | If I write something it's because I wanted to do it, so ultimately it's for no one but myself. So I never feel any obligations to please anyone. |
| 03:14.39 | Mikk | Clearly they should have foreseen that they shouldn't have done that that day |
| 03:14.55 | Mikk | Idiots |
| 03:14.56 | Mikk | All fo them |
| 03:14.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: no, the developers should have done it right the first time. |
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| 03:15.15 | Mikk | By foreseeing the unforeseeable? |
| 03:15.23 | HarveyDent | everyone makes mistakes |
| 03:15.33 | HarveyDent | bottom line is that it is dealt with now |
| 03:15.45 | NightHawkTheSane | argh. i -already- agreed that the move to minor revisions was unforseeable and necessarily fucked stuff up. :P |
| 03:16.25 | Mikk | Aye, and in such a bad situation, I tend to want to come up with a solution that doesn't fuck people over that didn't do anything wrong |
| 03:16.33 | Mikk | But that's me |
| 03:16.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: you're making the strangest jump from the move to minor revisions to changing those revisions to 1000+, which are -entirely- unrelated. |
| 03:17.17 | NightHawkTheSane | the latter was done -specifically- to deal with -SHITTY- programming that developers SHOULD have forseen. |
| 03:17.22 | Mikk | Totally related. It allowed old updaters to continue to function. |
| 03:17.29 | Mikk | It stopped people from being dicked over. |
| 03:17.48 | NightHawkTheSane | those people should stop using shittily coded and not updated programs. |
| 03:18.01 | HarveyDent | Additionally, I highly recommend implementing feature request numbers #1420, #1417, and #1416 |
| 03:18.05 | HarveyDent | (for Omen) |
| 03:18.26 | HarveyDent | NHTS - then stop bitching and recommend a Mac based addon updater equivalent to the featureset of MAU |
| 03:18.26 | Pkekyo | HarveyDent: which are? |
| 03:18.27 | HarveyDent | for real |
| 03:18.36 | NightHawkTheSane | HarveyDent: write your goddamn own. i did. :P |
| 03:18.45 | HarveyDent | Lesbian, pussy, and orgasm, in that order Pkekyo |
| 03:18.56 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.33 | HarveyDent | (for Omen) |
| 03:19.38 | Pkekyo | soeh, when is it getting implemented? |
| 03:19.51 | NightHawkTheSane | or, even better, just suck it up and update manually. what did you people do before someone came up with this anyway? >< |
| 03:20.00 | HarveyDent | I never used Ace |
| 03:20.07 | HarveyDent | thats what I did |
| 03:20.08 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: ran out of date addons :> |
| 03:20.17 | Mikk | Pkekyo: IDIOT! |
| 03:20.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: touché ;) |
| 03:20.37 | Pkekyo | Mikk: thank you? |
| 03:21.00 | NightHawkTheSane | (i should also note that I'm fairly misanthropic, if you hadn't noticed :P ) |
| 03:21.08 | HarveyDent | But seriously - is there anything that runs on OSX that will update Ace addons like WAU does? |
| 03:21.21 | Pkekyo | I might have noticed, just gimme a sec to find out wtf that means :p |
| 03:21.27 | HarveyDent | I'm content with MAU in so much as it just lets me refresh, select out of date, install |
| 03:21.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i have no idea, like i said, i wrote my own script. it works beautifully |
| 03:21.33 | Jaxon | HarveyDent: MacAceUpdater, jWoWupdator |
| 03:21.38 | Pkekyo | yes I've noticed :> |
| 03:21.46 | HarveyDent | I use MAU |
| 03:21.55 | HarveyDent | and don't care for OSX's handling of Java atm |
| 03:22.02 | HarveyDent | (crossing fingers for Leopard) |
| 03:22.10 | Mikk | Unfortunately, nighthawk has declared that everyone using MAU is an idiot |
| 03:22.15 | Mikk | so you're screwed |
| 03:22.16 | Jaxon | You double click the .jar file, it opens like an app. |
| 03:22.20 | NightHawkTheSane | java sucks in general really, even on windows. |
| 03:22.27 | HarveyDent | yeah problem is Jaxon |
| 03:22.33 | Jaxon | It works and works well. |
| 03:22.33 | HarveyDent | it eats hella resources for no reason |
| 03:22.53 | HarveyDent | maybe it's just me and the several other Macs I own |
| 03:23.02 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, not you |
| 03:23.03 | HarveyDent | but at least until Leopard, Java is a no go |
| 03:23.10 | Jaxon | Well, then turn it off when you are done with it. I believe it has an update and quit commandline option. |
| 03:23.22 | NightHawkTheSane | osx java is pretty pathetic. |
| 03:23.26 | Jaxon | If you want the feature set of MacAceUpdater then use MacAceUpdater |
| 03:23.35 | HarveyDent | heh |
| 03:23.39 | HarveyDent | I just wish I could sort! |
| 03:23.53 | HarveyDent | a few more options to configure, and sortability and it'd honestly be comparable |
| 03:24.09 | Jaxon | Comparable to what? You've removed all your other options as valid ones. |
| 03:24.10 | Mikk | and the ability to handle minor rev numbers correctly please |
| 03:24.15 | Jaxon | So there is nothing to compare it to. |
| 03:24.17 | HarveyDent | yeah that too |
| 03:24.23 | HarveyDent | comparable to WAU |
| 03:24.40 | Mikk | buy intel mac, run bootcamp. tadaa :P |
| 03:24.45 | NightHawkTheSane | you could install fusion/paralells/crossover and run WAU? :P |
| 03:24.45 | HarveyDent | lol |
| 03:24.49 | HarveyDent | I could |
| 03:24.55 | HarveyDent | but thats just even way more work lol |
| 03:25.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: bootcamp is so 2004. Virtualization is the new hawtness. |
| 03:25.07 | HarveyDent | therein the reason why I use MAU |
| 03:25.19 | HarveyDent | it's not perfect but at the end of the day, I'm usually running up to the minute addons |
| 03:25.30 | Jaxon | Which is overkill anyways. |
| 03:25.54 | HarveyDent | All I can say about Leopard is be prepared to see some awesome stuff with Bootcamp |
| 03:26.07 | HarveyDent | will be fun next month when the NDA goes lite |
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| 03:29.10 | Pkekyo | holy jumping fucking jesus --> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1187234527984.jpg |
| 03:29.22 | Pkekyo | g-man = win |
| 03:30.51 | HarveyDent | mmmm... funky culling and pointer wraps |
| 03:30.58 | Cryect | haha |
| 03:32.07 | Pkekyo | this guy in my class...got a 4chan-reply to ANYTHING you say to him |
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| 03:33.29 | Pkekyo | anyone know what time it is in china now? |
| 03:33.43 | Mikk | aeuhmm like 2 in the afternoonish? |
| 03:33.52 | Mikk | 3? |
| 03:34.00 | NightHawkTheSane | I bet google knows |
| 03:34.37 | Mikk | Thu 11:34 AM |
| 03:34.53 | gnorlish | kinda depends on the location in china |
| 03:34.53 | Pkekyo | remarkably few chinese smacktards fucking about on epix flyers stealing my ores now... |
| 03:35.10 | Mikk | gnorlish: no, in true communistic spirit, all of china runs on beijing time |
| 03:35.14 | Mikk | (no joke) |
| 03:35.39 | Pkekyo | now that's fucking efficient |
| 03:35.41 | HarveyDent | China: Equator? |
| 03:35.43 | gnorlish | you're right, i misread the major cities list |
| 03:36.44 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd kill for only one time zone. |
| 03:36.49 | NightHawkTheSane | possibly also for a klondike bar. |
| 03:37.04 | gnorlish | only one with almonds |
| 03:37.26 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i like almonds, but i can go either way |
| 03:37.54 | Mikk | Speaking of timezones, why in the name of $deity am I still awake at half past five in the morning? |
| 03:38.30 | Mikk | (Especially when the login servers are dead?) |
| 03:38.53 | gnorlish | you have lost your days and nights in the constant, consoling glow of multiple computer monitors |
| 03:39.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: to experience my charming personality and conversation |
| 03:40.03 | Mikk | um |
| 03:40.11 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 03:40.12 | MikkZzz | :P |
| 03:40.17 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 03:40.22 | Wobin | night Mikk |
| 03:40.30 | Pkekyo | g'nite |
| 03:41.07 | Pkekyo | if only one could prospect eternium /sigh |
| 03:41.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 03:41.27 | sag_ich_nicht | it's already expensive enough |
| 03:41.40 | Pkekyo | khorium? |
| 03:41.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't need any greedy jewelcrafters making my felsteel even MORE expensive. |
| 03:41.47 | JoshBorke | Cryect: bug in Recount: [2007/08/15 23:41:22-3795-x2]: Recount-$Revision: 46194 $\GUI_Main.lua:513: attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value) |
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| 03:42.22 | Pkekyo | eternium is worth jack shit on my server |
| 03:42.38 | Pkekyo | I've got 10 bars I've had lying around for ages |
| 03:43.05 | sag_ich_nicht | step 1: buy feliron |
| 03:43.10 | sag_ich_nicht | step 2: create felsteel |
| 03:43.13 | sag_ich_nicht | step 3: ??? |
| 03:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | step 4: profit! |
| 03:43.34 | Pkekyo | felsteel ain't worth much either |
| 03:43.43 | sag_ich_nicht | your server is crazy, or you don't have a clue. |
| 03:43.44 | Pkekyo | MAYBE 10-12g/bar *IF* you're very lucky |
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| 03:44.19 | Pkekyo | and yes, my server is crazy...too many fucking perverted swedes imho :> |
| 03:44.34 | sag_ich_nicht | okay now consider that you need about 300 bars to get blacksmithing from 360 to 375, and that's the cheapest way to do so :P |
| 03:44.54 | Cryect | JoshBorke: hmm hcecking it out |
| 03:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | thus: you WILL find someone to buy it, and that's good enough |
| 03:45.08 | Cryect | JoshBorke: you hear a horde guild actually killed kael on Stormreaver :-p |
| 03:45.21 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't expect to make more money with it than it's worth |
| 03:45.23 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 03:45.34 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: but that's no fun |
| 03:45.37 | Pkekyo | :< |
| 03:45.38 | JoshBorke | really?! horde on SR sucks (jme :-P) |
| 03:46.26 | Pkekyo | trying to farm adamantite to prospect...getting shitloads of khorium |
| 03:46.34 | HarveyDent | yeah |
| 03:46.42 | HarveyDent | I agree there |
| 03:46.50 | NightHawkTheSane | "People don't think you're strange." "What about Colonel O'Neill?" "... Let's get some lunch." |
| 03:46.59 | sag_ich_nicht | NightHawkTheSane wait |
| 03:47.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i know that from somewhere |
| 03:47.07 | sag_ich_nicht | which episode? D: |
| 03:47.08 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: i should hope so. |
| 03:47.13 | NightHawkTheSane | 605, Nightwalkers |
| 03:47.22 | JoshBorke | Cryect: btw, i was going through the main window |
| 03:47.28 | JoshBorke | from Threat to whatever is to the right |
| 03:47.30 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 03:47.46 | Pkekyo | my favourite SG-1 quite: "You ended that sentence with a preposition! BASTARD!" :> |
| 03:47.59 | sag_ich_nicht | that was AWESOME <3 |
| 03:48.03 | JoshBorke | ooo, more bugs cryect |
| 03:48.20 | JoshBorke | http://ace.pastey.net/72280 |
| 03:48.24 | RaydenUni | so random question, but any suggestions for software converting avi to mpeg? |
| 03:48.40 | Pkekyo | gotta love Colonel O'Neill... arude macgyver with big guns :> |
| 03:48.42 | Diao | [20:45:24] (sag_ich_nicht): okay now consider that you need about 300 bars to get blacksmithing from 360 to 375, and that's the cheapest way to do so :P <- very not true |
| 03:48.49 | Diao | khorium belt is by far the cheapest |
| 03:49.42 | Pkekyo | geif three professions at the same time plx...need disenchanting |
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| 03:50.25 | Diao | agree |
| 03:51.21 | Pkekyo | I hate blizz for adding the enchanting skill requirement for enchanting...forced me to pick up blacksmithing AGAIN |
| 03:51.56 | Pkekyo | <--- leveled both BS and Mining twice on my warr, and engineering once |
| 03:52.02 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly, 25g for a primal water, twice, 18g for a primal mana, twice, that's already 86g, +you need the khorium, now considering a felsteel bar is worth about 13g on my server, that makes it 78g for a felsteel glove. felsteel gloves > khorium belt |
| 03:52.09 | sag_ich_nicht | also, you farm the felsteel quicker. |
| 03:53.28 | Diao | depends on your server i guess |
| 03:53.35 | Diao | khorium is less than 5g a bar |
| 03:53.40 | sag_ich_nicht | NightHawkTheSane ooooooooooooh that one, that episode was fun :O |
| 03:53.58 | Diao | water is usually 20 as well :p |
| 03:54.07 | sag_ich_nicht | and mana? :P |
| 03:54.12 | Diao | like 15-18 |
| 03:54.13 | Diao | lol |
| 03:54.33 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: yeah :) |
| 03:54.34 | Diao | felsteel runs around 15 |
| 03:54.49 | Pkekyo | primals are worth just about jack shit on my server |
| 03:54.54 | Diao | and farming water/mana |
| 03:54.57 | Diao | is so easy it's not even funny |
| 03:55.01 | Pkekyo | only fire and air are still above 15-20g |
| 03:55.06 | NightHawkTheSane | mm. tacos and beer. |
| 03:55.06 | Diao | i can get 12 primal water in 1 hr |
| 03:55.12 | Diao | that's 6 belts :P |
| 03:55.25 | sag_ich_nicht | mana yes, but water? no. |
| 03:55.27 | sag_ich_nicht | wtf. |
| 03:55.28 | sag_ich_nicht | where. |
| 03:55.34 | sag_ich_nicht | and what class are you |
| 03:55.35 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 03:55.36 | Diao | warrior |
| 03:55.38 | Diao | skettis |
| 03:55.45 | sag_ich_nicht | then you are lucky. |
| 03:55.47 | Pkekyo | elemental plateau? easiest water farming ever |
| 03:55.49 | Diao | not really |
| 03:55.54 | Diao | 12 is my average per hour |
| 03:55.58 | Diao | my worst is 8 |
| 03:55.59 | sag_ich_nicht | or you all play on a PvE realm! |
| 03:55.59 | Diao | and best was 18 |
| 03:56.03 | Diao | blackrock US |
| 03:56.12 | Keias | Yeah I've never had any issues farming up waters |
| 03:56.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Diao is that a PvE or PvP server |
| 03:56.28 | Diao | just bring some food+bandages |
| 03:56.30 | Pkekyo | fire and air are royal bitches to farm though |
| 03:56.32 | Diao | it's pvp |
| 03:56.43 | Diao | i don't play pve |
| 03:56.43 | Keias | Fire and Air is insanely easy |
| 03:56.44 | Diao | lol |
| 03:56.44 | sag_ich_nicht | then your oposite faction plain and simple sucks. |
| 03:56.49 | Diao | no |
| 03:56.51 | Keias | well in Shadowmoon valley at least |
| 03:56.52 | Diao | that place is always empty |
| 03:56.58 | Keias | I don't farm anything in Elemental Plateau |
| 03:56.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Diao as i said, they suck :D |
| 03:57.00 | Keias | That's camped to hell |
| 03:57.02 | Diao | the only people that go there are there for daily quests |
| 03:57.07 | Diao | everyone tries to farm in elem plateau |
| 03:57.12 | Diao | if you go any other zone it's basically empty |
| 03:57.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Diao we have a bunch of HWLs, and they tend to not farm at the elemental plateau |
| 03:57.51 | Diao | we have like 30? |
| 03:57.52 | Diao | or more |
| 03:57.53 | Diao | lol |
| 03:57.58 | Diao | i see them all over |
| 03:58.04 | sag_ich_nicht | no i just meant that specific group |
| 03:58.07 | Diao | but i'm on horde |
| 03:58.41 | sag_ich_nicht | thus if you go to some offplace to farm as alliance and they spot you they just call in their friends and you=dead D: |
| 03:58.56 | sag_ich_nicht | what i am trying to say here, is that alliance on eu gul'dan really sucks. |
| 03:59.06 | Diao | lol |
| 03:59.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't even find groups for arcatraz, NORMAL |
| 04:00.49 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.02 | Pkekyo | I have groups lining up to take me anywhere I want |
| 04:02.00 | Pkekyo | me being a tank might've got something to do with exactly that though... |
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| 04:02.35 | NightHawkTheSane | probably,yeah. |
| 04:02.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i never had trouble finding a group on my warrior. |
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| 04:02.49 | Pkekyo | I love it when people ask me "can you tank [instance]" |
| 04:03.00 | Diao | i never have trouble |
| 04:03.07 | Diao | cause i have my own personal pally |
| 04:03.07 | Pkekyo | YES! ...........but I won't. |
| 04:03.12 | Keias | I have trouble with people taking "NO" for an answer |
| 04:03.23 | Diao | i just say no then ignore further pms |
| 04:03.29 | Pkekyo | I have trouble with people NOT taking "no" for an answer :p |
| 04:03.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm retribution, but my tank equip is good enough that i could tank arcatraz normal without any problem with a balance druid healing, so that's not the problem >.> |
| 04:03.51 | Keias | after I ask for like 105g for respec's I'm normally left alone |
| 04:03.58 | Pkekyo | <3 loladin tanks |
| 04:04.14 | JoshBorke | Cryect: recount is the worst piece of crap ever :-P |
| 04:04.26 | Pkekyo | my old guild had a great prot pally...made raiding sooo much easier |
| 04:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 04:05.26 | sag_ich_nicht | there is like one(1) good paladin tank on our server D: |
| 04:05.31 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 04:05.39 | sag_ich_nicht | and i play on a release pvp server D: |
| 04:05.41 | Pkekyo | they are few and far between, yes |
| 04:05.51 | Pkekyo | tbh, I've never even seen a retri pala O.o |
| 04:06.03 | sag_ich_nicht | !c eu gul'dan ruknor |
| 04:06.06 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/8/53). 7787 HP; 4743 Mana; 93 mana regen; 7 mp5; 7401 Armour; 1334 AP; 226.7 Melee DPS; 22.82% melee crit; 60 melee hit; 46 defense; 10.77% dodge; 5.76% block; 3 resilience;[[ TBR: 1605 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2g38g9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bcvl8 ]] |
| 04:06.09 | sag_ich_nicht | now you have D: |
| 04:06.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i see them, and then ignore them. |
| 04:06.11 | Kaelten | I play a ret pally |
| 04:06.18 | Pkekyo | kek |
| 04:06.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten giev armory |
| 04:06.45 | Kaelten | its kinda funny people say "What spec are you? " "Ret" "Oh, nvm." |
| 04:06.52 | sag_ich_nicht | yes >.> |
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| 04:07.05 | sag_ich_nicht | also, the T4 helm is the worst piece of crap to be ever invented when compared to overlord's helm of second sight >.> |
| 04:07.10 | Kaelten | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Whisperwind&n=Linden |
| 04:07.13 | Pkekyo | people ask me if I'm prot...then I answer "maybe?" ^^ |
| 04:07.22 | Pkekyo | I specced MSpewpew, yesterday morning after months as prot...it's sooo much fun |
| 04:07.26 | sag_ich_nicht | ...too lazy to alt+tab |
| 04:07.30 | Kaelten | sag_ich_nicht: ^ |
| 04:07.34 | sag_ich_nicht | !c us whisperwind linden |
| 04:07.37 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Linden, Level 60 Dwarf Paladin (10/0/41). 4431 HP; 2972 Mana; 129 mana regen; 37 mp5; 5391 Armour; 764 AP; 119.4 Melee DPS; 11.61% melee crit; 19 melee hit; 57 +spell dmg; 72 +heal; 7.21% dodge; 5.52% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 958 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fwk4d ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32ehg2 ]] |
| 04:07.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl. |
| 04:07.46 | Kaelten | I finally hit level 60 last night |
| 04:07.48 | Pkekyo | l60? kek |
| 04:07.52 | Kaelten | almost 61 now |
| 04:07.52 | Pkekyo | gz |
| 04:08.06 | NightHawkTheSane | my warrior hasn't been non-prot specced since.. uh.. last summer? |
| 04:08.07 | Pkekyo | here comes zeh moocow: |
| 04:08.07 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 04:08.10 | Kaelten | three days ago he was 56 |
| 04:08.11 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (35/23/3). 9853 HP; 7385 Armour; 1488 AP; 236.1 Melee DPS; 23.4% melee crit; 102 melee hit; 7.38% dodge; 5% block; 46 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 969 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytatlc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okjqb ]] |
| 04:08.16 | sag_ich_nicht | my weapon has about the same dps value that you have Kaelten <3 |
| 04:08.25 | Pkekyo | I love tanking...but I hate being prot specc out of instances :> |
| 04:08.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo what why oh wait you play a warrior haha |
| 04:08.42 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 04:08.48 | Pkekyo | wha? |
| 04:09.04 | Pkekyo | - confused |
| 04:09.15 | sag_ich_nicht | paladins can spec prot too, you cookie :D |
| 04:09.19 | Kaelten | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Whisperwind&n=Desdaemonia is my wife's char |
| 04:09.39 | sag_ich_nicht | !c whisperwind desdaemonia |
| 04:09.40 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 04:09.41 | Pkekyo | yeah, meknows...but what's with the 'what why ogh wait' ? |
| 04:09.43 | sag_ich_nicht | !c us whisperwind desdaemonia |
| 04:09.46 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Desdaemonia, Level 60 Dwarf Hunter (46/5/0). 4449 HP; 2535 Mana; 111 mana regen; 33 mp5; 3697 Armour; 716 AP; 96.7 Melee DPS; 7.24% melee crit; 778 RAP; 156.8 Ranged DPS; 12.52% ranged crit; 12 +spell dmg/heal; 9.64% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 717 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywet9y ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38tegg ]] |
| 04:10.00 | Pkekyo | gotta love l60s |
| 04:10.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo because being prot doesn't suck outside of instances as paladin :P |
| 04:10.12 | Pkekyo | meknows /weep |
| 04:10.17 | Pkekyo | damn you all to hell :p |
| 04:10.23 | Kaelten | I've never done prot as a pally |
| 04:10.27 | Kaelten | how is it? |
| 04:10.28 | sag_ich_nicht | hey, you shut up, i play retribution, Pkekyo. |
| 04:10.41 | sag_ich_nicht | neither have i, but i know one and i have informed myself pretty well |
| 04:10.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: imba is what it is. :P |
| 04:10.58 | sag_ich_nicht | yes >.> |
| 04:11.03 | NightHawkTheSane | at least for solo grinding |
| 04:11.04 | Kaelten | imba? |
| 04:11.06 | sag_ich_nicht | but not enough stamina/HP |
| 04:11.10 | Pkekyo | well, the damn you all to hell stuff is viable for anyone bubbling up in battlegrounds tbh :> |
| 04:11.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo and then i hit my trinket and hit you with near normal attackspeed <3 |
| 04:12.27 | Pkekyo | as soon as someone bubbles on me, I just spam /spit |
| 04:12.27 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 04:12.27 | sag_ich_nicht | why the hell? |
| 04:12.49 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a viable tactic. bubblehearthing is worth a spit, or for that matter bubble trinketing in AV. |
| 04:12.52 | Kaelten | !c us whisperwind warloga |
| 04:12.54 | ThraeBot | Kaelten: Warloga, Level 35 Gnome Mage (0/0/0). 1480 HP; 3093 Mana; 84 mana regen; 5.32% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 260 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ffoff ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3apeke ]] |
| 04:13.01 | Kaelten | thats my auction/coding character |
| 04:13.07 | sag_ich_nicht | also and then i get a quadcrit and you die <3 |
| 04:13.20 | Kaelten | he has some 35+ days of play time, |
| 04:13.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 04:13.47 | sag_ich_nicht | you should spec him in some way |
| 04:14.06 | Pkekyo | 5.5 stacks of adamantite ready for prospecting...this shit better give me some blues >.< |
| 04:14.15 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 04:14.16 | Pkekyo | arcane all the way! |
| 04:14.16 | Diao | i was so jealous |
| 04:14.17 | Diao | the other day |
| 04:14.19 | Diao | some guy in my party |
| 04:14.24 | Kaelten | I don't think I've actually played him since the last respec |
| 04:14.29 | Diao | prospected a few stacks of adamantite |
| 04:14.33 | Kaelten | free respec that is |
| 04:14.37 | Diao | got 3 stars of elune |
| 04:14.41 | Diao | in a row |
| 04:14.47 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 04:14.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten does that mean we can conclude that you stopped coding? :P |
| 04:14.59 | Kaelten | nope |
| 04:15.07 | Kaelten | coding just involves sitting in front of the auciton house |
| 04:15.08 | NightHawkTheSane | "You've got to teach me how to do that." "Wormhole theory, motorcycle riding, and lockpicking." "Not necessarily in that order." |
| 04:15.09 | Kaelten | not killing shit |
| 04:15.11 | Kaelten | anywho, brb |
| 04:15.23 | sag_ich_nicht | no i mean |
| 04:15.34 | Pkekyo | meh, I hope I get something except for star of elune...I need 'em for tankage :< |
| 04:15.37 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:14] <@Kaelten> I don't think I've actually played him since the last respec |
| 04:15.38 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWqQ29iWBs <-- for those who want to see the color picker in action. Note: this is not the finished version |
| 04:15.42 | sag_ich_nicht | played=logged in for me D: |
| 04:16.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight nice color picker, can we get exact value input too or will i have to edit savedvars again? :( |
| 04:16.30 | ckknight | editboxes will be there |
| 04:16.34 | ckknight | that's why I said it wasn't finished |
| 04:16.39 | sag_ich_nicht | okay <3 |
| 04:17.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i like the alpha slider |
| 04:17.03 | sag_ich_nicht | a lot. |
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| 04:17.55 | Yssaril | ckknight: where are you gonna put the editboxes? |
| 04:18.02 | ckknight | next to each slider |
| 04:18.12 | ckknight | they'll be pretty small, all in all |
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| 04:19.11 | Yssaril | cool have you tried vertical sliders instead of horizontal? then you wouldn't ahve that last one hanging of to the side |
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| 04:19.27 | ckknight | oh, the swatch will be underneath it |
| 04:19.31 | ckknight | so it will actually look nice |
| 04:19.43 | ckknight | and vertical sliders don't work with edit boxes well |
| 04:20.12 | Yssaril | kk was thinking vertical sliders with the boxes below or above |
| 04:20.21 | Yssaril | idk that might confuse people though |
| 04:20.46 | Pkekyo | I like the idea of vertical sliders tbh |
| 04:20.48 | Mecdemort | I commited an addon with the wrong change note, any way to fix it? |
| 04:20.48 | ckknight | well, I'm gonna be adding edit boxes now |
| 04:20.54 | Yssaril | btw i like that you got rid of the colorwheel never liked them anyways |
| 04:20.55 | ckknight | no, Mecdemort |
| 04:20.59 | ckknight | Pkekyo: I tried it, doesn't look as nice |
| 04:21.01 | Mecdemort | poop |
| 04:21.13 | ckknight | Yssaril: :-) |
| 04:22.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Mecdemort just commit again? oO |
| 04:22.43 | Yssaril | hmmmm thinking again since idk if there would be a point to putting an edit box next to the colorwheel replacement thing (colorbar) would it look more uniform to maybe have that going across the top and alight the rest below it? would also increase precision when using the colorbar |
| 04:23.05 | Mecdemort | sag_ich_nicht: well ya, but the other addon still has a change message that doesnt make sense ;p |
| 04:23.20 | ckknight | Yssaril: lemme just try my idea and show you |
| 04:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Mecdemort what? |
| 04:23.55 | Yssaril | hehe go for it |
| 04:24.15 | Pkekyo | ckknight: may I suggest a copy/past function for specific color settings? |
| 04:24.21 | ckknight | jesus fucking christ |
| 04:24.24 | ckknight | no, you can't |
| 04:24.34 | Yssaril | lol |
| 04:24.36 | Mecdemort | seriously wtb copy/paste |
| 04:24.38 | ckknight | seeing as like 5 other people have already |
| 04:24.39 | ckknight | ] |
| 04:24.45 | Pkekyo | ke |
| 04:24.45 | Pkekyo | k |
| 04:24.50 | ckknight | and I already said I had something better in mind, 5 other fucking times |
| 04:25.08 | Mecdemort | you best copy and paste that response cuz i know you'll get asked more ;p |
| 04:25.12 | Yssaril | alright lets let him finish the next stage then we can continue :P |
| 04:26.15 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight i suggest you write that in CAPSLOCK to get more attention. |
| 04:26.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ;P |
| 04:26.49 | Funkeh` | I think you are all gay, apart from NightHawkTheSane he rocks |
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| 04:26.58 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 Funkeh` |
| 04:27.03 | alb | u |
| 04:27.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` i think you need a punch in the face with a baseball bat. |
| 04:27.06 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 04:27.29 | sag_ich_nicht | (i am thinking about a living baseball bat, so that it can actually form fists and hit you) |
| 04:28.30 | ckknight | cracking someone in the face truly is a delightful experience |
| 04:29.21 | ckknight | with a baseball bat, that is |
| 04:29.24 | ckknight | I prefer aluminum |
| 04:29.30 | Pkekyo | the perfect murder: grab a guy by the ancles and beat another guy to death with him...two dead guys, no murder weapon, no finger prints |
| 04:29.31 | ckknight | gives better impact |
| 04:29.47 | ckknight | um, you do realize there would be finger prints, right? |
| 04:29.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well, except for the ones on his ankles |
| 04:29.57 | ckknight | it's not as if touching someone doesn't leave a finger print |
| 04:30.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight just wear gloves then. |
| 04:30.27 | Funkeh` | Thats some random bullshit on discussion currently. |
| 04:30.31 | Pkekyo | gl dusting finger prints off some guys socks |
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| 04:30.45 | ckknight | um, Pkekyo, it's doable. |
| 04:30.52 | Pkekyo | gl getting the faint IDEA of dusting a guy's socks for prints tbh |
| 04:31.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I imagine the marks on his ankles from where you had to have been holding him fairly tight would be a good indication |
| 04:31.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo you spray the socks with a marker, put them in the dark, turn on a UV light, and take a picture with a laser scanner <3 |
| 04:31.41 | Pkekyo | meh...you're nitpicking |
| 04:31.45 | NightHawkTheSane | This is, of course, ignoring the sheer absurdity of wielding a human in that manner |
| 04:31.49 | Silowyi | !ar430 |
| 04:31.49 | sag_ich_nicht | *an UV light |
| 04:31.50 | Pkekyo | bastards, ruined my plan |
| 04:31.58 | Silowyi | !ar 430 |
| 04:31.58 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Arena rating from 430 points is, 2v2: 1693, 3v3: 1635, 5v5: 1548 |
| 04:32.10 | ckknight | please, Pkekyo, it's infeasible |
| 04:32.12 | Silowyi | pfft |
| 04:32.17 | Silowyi | well that should be trivially easy to get |
| 04:32.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Back in college I had a chemistry major roommate, now -he- came up with foolproof murder schemes |
| 04:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 04:32.41 | ckknight | I'd prefer 6-mm copper wire and using it to asphyxiate the victim |
| 04:32.44 | NightHawkTheSane | things like dissolving the body into organic chemicals and washing it down the drain |
| 04:32.55 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 04:33.27 | QuantumDelta | why be as soft as to asphyxiate? |
| 04:33.28 | Funkeh` | holy shit |
| 04:33.29 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: that'd work, the issue most people have is that they only use one kind of chemical that will only work on either bone or flesh instead of both |
| 04:33.31 | Funkeh` | check this http://files.filefront.com/Fury+Traileravi/;8296430;;/fileinfo.html |
| 04:33.36 | QuantumDelta | Just snap the bones in their neck. |
| 04:33.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: well, ignoring human error obviously :P |
| 04:33.59 | sag_ich_nicht | http://bash.org/?488793 |
| 04:34.06 | sag_ich_nicht | this fits this discussion nicely :P |
| 04:34.54 | ckknight | QuantumDelta: different situation. Strangulation requires a minimum of two minutes to complete whereas something like bone-snapping or gunshot wounds are much quicker. Therefore, during the strangulation you realize exactly what you are doing for a relatively long period of time. To shoot someone is a half-second decision and you can't change your mind halfway through |
| 04:35.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight i prefer using a 1 µm nanotube wire that won't rip. cuts off the head clean(but damn expensive to create and get, and to wield) :D |
| 04:35.43 | ckknight | as I said, strangulation is a much more sobering experience than other forms of murder |
| 04:36.20 | QuantumDelta | Conviction is a powerful thing |
| 04:36.24 | sag_ich_nicht | which tells us that you either hope you pussy out at some point if you ever get the idea of killing someone, or that you are a sadist. |
| 04:36.33 | sag_ich_nicht | (or both) |
| 04:36.34 | ckknight | oh, I'm a sadist |
| 04:36.40 | ckknight | I've said this before |
| 04:36.52 | ckknight | but really, I'm more of a sadist in the proper sadomasochism sense |
| 04:37.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight creating something like Ace2 sounds more like a machohhists job. |
| 04:37.13 | ckknight | i.e. I don't really see a distinction between penetrating someone with my dick and punching them |
| 04:37.17 | sag_ich_nicht | -h+c |
| 04:37.39 | ckknight | same general motion, same general psychological effect |
| 04:37.49 | Funkeh` | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=45001 |
| 04:37.50 | ckknight | only real difference is that with the brutality, there's a clear winner |
| 04:37.55 | ckknight | and a clear loser |
| 04:38.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight you are thinking of rape, in this case then, otherwise you are wrong :) |
| 04:38.09 | ckknight | whereas normal sex is mutually beneficial |
| 04:38.15 | ckknight | no, I'm not |
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| 04:38.35 | ckknight | domination does not imply rape |
| 04:38.40 | ckknight | rape is bad, kids |
| 04:38.52 | sag_ich_nicht | no, that's not my point, sorry if you missunderstood :O |
| 04:39.28 | sag_ich_nicht | rape implies violence, while sex doesn't. i meant your equation is invalid otherwise :P |
| 04:39.36 | Pkekyo | khorium ore is so fucking worthless it's not even funny |
| 04:39.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo CREATE FELSTEEL ALREADY AND SELL IT GEEZ |
| 04:39.52 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 04:39.55 | NightHawkTheSane | lol. "Queer on cell, perusing baked goods: I want a muffin. Do you want a muffin? This whole courtroom wants a muffin!" |
| 04:39.56 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: no, sadomasochistic sex implies violence |
| 04:39.58 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r46674 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/Core.lua: |
| 04:39.58 | CIA-14 | BigWigs_WaveTimers: - Significantly more accurate timers for the 2 horde camp bosses. |
| 04:39.58 | CIA-14 | - Removed ghost bars (when killing a wave faster than timers), reduced unnecessary spam. |
| 04:40.03 | Silowyi | Pkekyo it's part of fel iron bars? |
| 04:40.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i seriously <3 overheardinnewyork |
| 04:40.11 | CIA-14 | 03next96 * r46675 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua: |
| 04:40.11 | CIA-14 | Bartender3: |
| 04:40.11 | CIA-14 | - Update locale koKR |
| 04:40.24 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: no it's not |
| 04:40.45 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: khorium is not a reagent for felsteel |
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| 04:40.50 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 04:40.52 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry, missread |
| 04:40.59 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, khorium is worthless |
| 04:41.03 | sag_ich_nicht | excuse the capslock, please |
| 04:41.04 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 04:41.06 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 04:41.12 | Silowyi | not fel iron |
| 04:41.14 | Silowyi | felsteel |
| 04:41.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i can't see how you can penetrate someone violently except during rape or not using lube(well, or throat choking) |
| 04:41.31 | Pkekyo | Silowyi: no it's not |
| 04:41.52 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: you do realize rough sex can be consentual, right? |
| 04:42.02 | Silowyi | and nvm it's Eternium |
| 04:42.08 | Silowyi | not khorium |
| 04:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight i am not talking about rough sex, i am being a nitpicker on this: [06:37] <@ckknight> i.e. I don't really see a distinction between penetrating someone with my dick and punching them |
| 04:42.28 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: and it should be known that it's not 100% about violence, it's primarily about domination through either violence or humiliation |
| 04:42.38 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: a psychological distinction |
| 04:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight you don't have to tell me that :P |
| 04:43.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: okay then you obmitted a adjective there :P |
| 04:43.42 | sag_ich_nicht | *an |
| 04:43.42 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r46676 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Ignore previous change message. Searching by ItemLink (shift-clicking) will properly return stored items. |
| 04:43.50 | ckknight | alright then |
| 04:44.38 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm, what do you call someone who likes to be annoying(besides a dick)? |
| 04:44.54 | ckknight | troll |
| 04:44.55 | Mecdemort | prick? |
| 04:45.02 | ckknight | asshole |
| 04:45.09 | Mecdemort | douche |
| 04:45.10 | Pkekyo | dickwad? |
| 04:45.14 | NightHawkTheSane | whatever insulting term you want? |
| 04:45.23 | Pkekyo | cockjuggling thundercunt? horsehumping bitch? |
| 04:45.31 | ckknight | buttpirate |
| 04:45.41 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 04:45.49 | NightHawkTheSane | "ckknight".. er, wait.. ;) |
| 04:45.49 | Mecdemort | nazi zombie buttpirate |
| 04:46.18 | Pkekyo | Mecdemort: impressive! |
| 04:46.24 | CIA-14 | 03nirek * r46677 10ElfReloaded/ElfReloaded.lua: ElfReloaded: stupid negative attrib random item links should now work |
| 04:46.40 | Pkekyo | elf reloaded? O.o |
| 04:46.44 | Mecdemort | down with the elves! |
| 04:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:44] <@ckknight> troll <--isn't there some scientific term? :O |
| 04:48.30 | ckknight | dunno |
| 04:49.46 | sag_ich_nicht | damn. |
| 04:49.58 | Pkekyo | http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=troll+scientific+term&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 kek? |
| 04:50.34 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.google.com/search?q=troll+scientific+term clean up your damn searchqueries, everyone has different google preferences :P |
| 04:50.58 | ckknight | opera ftw |
| 04:51.03 | Pkekyo | as if I'm gonna do more for you than copy/pasting :> |
| 04:51.17 | NightHawkTheSane | as If I'm going to click on it :P |
| 04:51.19 | Pkekyo | also, ckknight is correct, operaspammed urls ftw |
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| 04:51.32 | sag_ich_nicht | also, http://www.google.com/search?q=troll+%22scientific+term%22 my query > your query |
| 04:51.41 | Pkekyo | nowai |
| 04:54.56 | ckknight | yawai |
| 04:58.54 | loonacy | maybewai |
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| 05:01.36 | Pkekyo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w&mode=related&search= |
| 05:02.34 | ckknight | I saw that |
| 05:02.35 | ckknight | hehe |
| 05:02.58 | Pkekyo | I love that shit |
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| 05:05.05 | Pkekyo | it baffles me how people can watch that vid and scream "AAAAH! RACISM! RACISM!" |
| 05:05.36 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 05:05.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo what's better about that video and the comments is the one by MSDONWON |
| 05:06.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i now understand why some stupid AIM kids type like that >.> |
| 05:06.30 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 05:06.33 | ckknight | Pkekyo: meh, it's less racist than Bill Cosby's whole speech on how the black man needs to shape up |
| 05:06.50 | Pkekyo | "stop trying 2 sound all smart and get with the program. this is the 21st century and this is how u write a comment." |
| 05:06.58 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 05:07.04 | ckknight | also, read a comment and I can't stand this argument: "this isn't school, it doesn't matter how 2 spell" |
| 05:07.16 | ckknight | wtf, I mean, why did school even teach that, then |
| 05:07.27 | ckknight | if you're not expected to spell in the real world |
| 05:07.42 | ckknight | you learn to spell so that others can actually understand you, you dumb pieces of shit |
| 05:07.50 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 05:07.51 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 05:08.16 | loonacy | u dont need 2 understand n e 1 who spells like this |
| 05:08.18 | ckknight | as an aside, if you legitimately have spelling problems, I can understand that, my brother has pretty bad dyslexia that way |
| 05:08.36 | ckknight | but he tries to spell properly and works at it, he doesn't just give up and type in goddamn code |
| 05:08.40 | Pkekyo | "the makker of thius was trying to send people a message in a way theyed understand (read a mother fucking book nigga) but people who should follow this message find it funny.............what r we coming to?" |
| 05:08.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: people who have legitimate spelling problems don't use "ur" or "2" or shit liek that |
| 05:08.43 | NightHawkTheSane | like* |
| 05:08.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:08.58 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:07] <@ckknight> you learn to spell so that others can actually understand you, you dumb pieces of shit <--fucking seconded |
| 05:09.06 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 05:09.12 | sag_ich_nicht | especially in firefox or opera |
| 05:09.21 | sag_ich_nicht | you can just push a damn spellcheck button and be done with it |
| 05:09.28 | ckknight | or on any mac program |
| 05:09.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ :) |
| 05:09.39 | Pkekyo | opera has a spellcheck button? |
| 05:09.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i think so |
| 05:10.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i expect it to, otherwise i am just going to add that to my list of pretend reasons to flame it. |
| 05:10.22 | loonacy | Had a guildmate today say in chat "ne warlocks need [Item link]" ... someone else said "What makes you think night elf warlocks need that?" |
| 05:10.26 | ckknight | yea, Pkekyo |
| 05:10.35 | ckknight | right-click on a text edit, Check Spelling |
| 05:10.35 | sag_ich_nicht | loonacy that showed off 2 idiots at once. |
| 05:10.51 | ckknight | loonacy: ? |
| 05:10.52 | Pkekyo | cool |
| 05:10.58 | ckknight | loonacy: oh, lol |
| 05:11.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: ne=any >< |
| 05:11.15 | loonacy | ne = Night Elf |
| 05:11.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: hell, you can just do spellcheck as you type, and right click on the words ithighlights |
| 05:11.20 | ckknight | I fucking hate the use of "ne" |
| 05:11.23 | ckknight | and "ne1" |
| 05:11.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight so do i |
| 05:11.42 | loonacy | It's tough to decide which I hate more... "ne" or "ur" |
| 05:11.47 | sag_ich_nicht | but i also hate everything, so that doesn't count |
| 05:11.48 | ckknight | makes me just want to have a cleansing in the name of purity |
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| 05:11.57 | ckknight | all the greatest atrocities are done in the name of purity, you know |
| 05:12.16 | sag_ich_nicht | loonacy: ne, because ur has the longer history and _some_ proper use in memes :P |
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| 05:12.18 | sag_ich_nicht | e.g. NO U |
| 05:12.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight is a nazi :( |
| 05:12.53 | sag_ich_nicht | okay time to get out of the house and to work |
| 05:12.55 | sag_ich_nicht | bye :O |
| 05:13.07 | loonacy | This discussion has been Godwin'ed. |
| 05:13.09 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.41 | ckknight | seeing as this isn't genocide... |
| 05:13.56 | ckknight | merely eugenics |
| 05:14.11 | Mecdemort | same result different method |
| 05:14.33 | Bam__ | Gagorian: ping |
| 05:14.38 | loonacy | Unfortunately, there are more stupid people than smart people. |
| 05:15.19 | ckknight | due to the bell curve |
| 05:15.30 | Mecdemort | from a naturalist standpoint you only have to be smart enough to breed before you die, so there's technically not very many stupid people |
| 05:15.58 | Pkekyo | "and everybody no white don't even no what's a book........ if wee had put white ppl all u will still have? a problem ttt....i feeling sorry God will deal with all youu" |
| 05:15.58 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.29 | ckknight | Pkekyo: what does that even say? |
| 05:16.37 | loonacy | I suddenly have the urge to write an MMORPG in HTML. |
| 05:16.44 | Pkekyo | err, I'll try to interpret it for you |
| 05:17.24 | Pkekyo | I could translate you the first 'sentence' then I'd be SoL and JWF |
| 05:17.37 | NightHawkTheSane | loonacy: i've done that,its not as interesting as it sounds |
| 05:18.15 | ckknight | okay, I think the first sentence is "If you're not white, you don't know what a book is" |
| 05:18.25 | ckknight | not sure what he second sentence says, though |
| 05:18.58 | Pkekyo | yeah, that's pretty much the result I got as well |
| 05:19.18 | Pkekyo | meh, "racist" is a really fucking biased term... |
| 05:20.07 | Pkekyo | two white guys beats up or kills a black guy, it's racism |
| 05:20.07 | Pkekyo | if two black guys beats up or kills a white guy, that's just how life is... amusing :> |
| 05:20.24 | ckknight | well, yea, seeing as they're black and more prone to violence |
| 05:20.37 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:21.04 | ckknight | a lot of the African-American population has grown up in a sad culture, in my opinion |
| 05:21.11 | ckknight | not that all black people are bad or anything |
| 05:21.15 | ckknight | my neighbor's Jamaican |
| 05:21.18 | ckknight | she's a great person |
| 05:21.40 | Pkekyo | imo, the problem is how they're portrayed in media |
| 05:21.48 | ckknight | that's one problem |
| 05:22.02 | ckknight | a big one |
| 05:22.36 | ckknight | one where every random black man is feared and shunned for their impulsivity and proneness to violence and crime |
| 05:22.54 | ckknight | which isn't true irl, but the media sure does love that angle |
| 05:22.55 | Pkekyo | if a black guy robs a bank, it's "a black male approx age blablabla robbed a bank today...." |
| 05:22.55 | Pkekyo | if a white guy robs a bank "a bank was robbed today by a perpetrator in the mid-twenties, slim build blablabla..." |
| 05:22.55 | Pkekyo | every time a black guy does something wrong, they emphasize it into oblivion |
| 05:24.17 | Pkekyo | race is waaaaaaay overrated tbh |
| 05:24.20 | ckknight | depends on the state you're in, so you know |
| 05:24.31 | ckknight | I dunno, I'm a believer in nature over nurture |
| 05:24.53 | ckknight | there are smart black people and smart white people and dumb black people and dumb white people |
| 05:24.53 | Pkekyo | if I only knew wtf that meant ^^ |
| 05:25.00 | ckknight | proportions might vary, though |
| 05:25.34 | Pkekyo | ofc, but proportions might also vary in protestant/catholic ranges etc as well...this race 'issue' is blown way out of proportion |
| 05:26.11 | ckknight | and the average African-American man's skull is 3mm thicker than their African cousins, theorized to be by a culling process in plantation breeding |
| 05:26.36 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 05:26.41 | ckknight | it's not as though race doesn't exist |
| 05:26.49 | ckknight | it does, and it makes a difference both genetically and culturally |
| 05:27.00 | ckknight | how much of a difference is overblown in some cases |
| 05:27.05 | ckknight | and underblown in others |
| 05:29.03 | Pkekyo | ofc it makes a difference, but not the difference it seems... in media it seems like 90% of black people are violent, illiterate, murdering rapists, while white people never go any further criminally than spitting on the sidewalk... (yes, it's one hell of an exageration, but it makes the point) |
| 05:29.17 | Pkekyo | the main problem is: people belive what the media says |
| 05:29.26 | Leachim | Culture depends on the region you were grown. People in living in a hot environment have another culture than pepole living in a cold environment. SO culture doesn't make a race |
| 05:29.42 | ckknight | prison populations are grossly weighted towards black residents compared to the real population |
| 05:29.52 | Pkekyo | culture makes vikings! YARR! |
| 05:30.07 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom makes vikings |
| 05:30.07 | ckknight | and although they may be persecuted more, the numbers just don't add up right for that being the sole cause |
| 05:30.26 | ckknight | vikings are an interesting bunch |
| 05:30.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: you're forgetting socio-economic factors. |
| 05:30.29 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: ofc, how you think I came to exist? |
| 05:30.41 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: yea, that's a big reason as well |
| 05:30.47 | ckknight | probably the primary reason. |
| 05:30.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: mitosis? |
| 05:30.59 | Pkekyo | say wha? |
| 05:31.06 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: i would say arguably the single biggest reason |
| 05:31.11 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: no |
| 05:31.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: no to which, mitosis? ":P |
| 05:31.55 | ckknight | counterpoint: it took the Jews a mere 2-3 centuries to go from the ghettos of Europe to practically controlling it. The African-Americans have been free for over 1 and a half centuries now and don't seem to be making all that much progress |
| 05:31.58 | Pkekyo | no to mitosis |
| 05:32.25 | ckknight | note: I mean no disrespect to the Jews by that statement, they're a strong people that we can learn from. |
| 05:32.51 | Pkekyo | disclaimer ftw? :p |
| 05:33.07 | ckknight | yea, people don't like the Jews to be persecuted so much |
| 05:33.10 | ckknight | not since the whole Hitler thing |
| 05:33.18 | ckknight | my sister-in-law is a Jew, btw |
| 05:33.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: I'd still have to say that there's significant socio-political differences between europe and america, though, which has certainly had some effect. |
| 05:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | of course |
| 05:34.03 | ckknight | Jews were persecuted in America less than a century ago, pretty heavily. Now they're quite prominent |
| 05:34.05 | NightHawkTheSane | All the factors are essentially interrelated, so it's hard to distinguish the effects of one from others. |
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| 05:34.31 | Pkekyo | hmm... isn't presecuting jews less than any other group/minority kinda anti-semetic? :P |
| 05:35.01 | ckknight | an Anti-Semite is no longer means someone who hates Jews, but instead someone who Jews hate. |
| 05:35.21 | Pkekyo | huh |
| 05:35.38 | ckknight | ~Jean Paul Sartre, Anti-Semite and Jew |
| 05:36.11 | Pkekyo | is that the start of a -came into a bar joke? :> |
| 05:36.28 | ckknight | no |
| 05:36.41 | Pkekyo | meh....seemed promising there for a sec |
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| 05:36.58 | ckknight | Jews cannot be destroyed |
| 05:37.07 | ckknight | every time they are persecuted, they come back stronger |
| 05:37.10 | ckknight | like a pheonix |
| 05:37.23 | abug | Unless a big rock collides with earth... |
| 05:37.29 | Mecdemort | so, need more ideas to improve AnywhereBags |
| 05:37.36 | ckknight | slavery in Egypt gave them the holy land, persecution by the romans sent them to Europe, persecution by Hitler gave them Israel |
| 05:38.04 | Pkekyo | participating in this discussion is no longer good for my karma, so I'm gonna go buy breakfeast...laters all! |
| 05:38.11 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:38.13 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:38.21 | ckknight | btw, you should watch the movie The Believer |
| 05:38.41 | ckknight | it's good, it's about a Jew who loses his faith and becomes a Nazi, then through his misdeeds reclaims his faith |
| 05:39.42 | abug | ever see American History X? |
| 05:39.48 | ckknight | also good |
| 05:39.59 | ckknight | American History X is less "real", imho |
| 05:40.13 | abug | yeah a bit over the top |
| 05:40.20 | ckknight | a good movie on African-American persecution is Native Son |
| 05:40.24 | ckknight | pretty good |
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| 05:41.14 | ckknight | about a black man in the 30's facing persecution |
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| 05:42.13 | abug | Cryect: ping |
| 05:43.53 | ckknight | it's better in book form, though |
| 05:52.13 | Pkekyo | g'mornin all |
| 05:54.27 | Pkekyo | and what a glorious morning it is...approx 4hrs 'till I've gotta pass an exam, and I haven't slept for fucking ages :> |
| 05:56.02 | NightHawkTheSane | all the answers are "C" |
| 05:56.57 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 05:57.17 | Pkekyo | I thought the ultimate answer was 42? |
| 05:57.50 | NightHawkTheSane | well you can't answer 42 on a multiple choice test. |
| 05:58.15 | Pkekyo | wanna bet? |
| 05:58.42 | Diao | i saw |
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| 05:58.53 | Diao | a picture of a multiple choice test where the student answered all c |
| 05:58.58 | Diao | unfortunately |
| 05:59.00 | Diao | it was true/false |
| 05:59.02 | Diao | so he got 0% |
| 05:59.11 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 05:59.12 | Pkekyo | Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos |
| 06:00.28 | Pkekyo | rofl, a fucking political party wanna ban the use of motorvehicles in norway's capital city |
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| 06:01.44 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man,i'd love it if people couldn't drive cars in the city. |
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| 06:01.52 | NightHawkTheSane | busses would totally be on time, walking would be awesome. |
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| 06:02.12 | Pkekyo | true, but the busses would be filled to the fucking brim with people |
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| 06:02.42 | NightHawkTheSane | so you'd have more busses, which you can do, cause there's no fucking cars in the streets. ;) |
| 06:02.50 | NightHawkTheSane | or, better yet, put in a light rail system |
| 06:03.30 | Pkekyo | but what would we do without driveby shootings? :O |
| 06:03.38 | NightHawkTheSane | live longer lives? |
| 06:03.54 | NightHawkTheSane | not wake up in the middle of the night to the sound of gunshots and screeching tires? |
| 06:04.22 | NightHawkTheSane | not that I actually do. but you know.. |
| 06:04.37 | Pkekyo | indeed |
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| 06:04.55 | Pkekyo | would imagine it'd reduce 'heavy' crime alot |
| 06:06.02 | Pkekyo | no bankrobberies etc...who the hell ever heard of a "getaway tram"? :p |
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| 06:07.07 | NightHawkTheSane | "Okay, we need to rob the bank and be out by precisely 6:15, or we'll miss the train!" |
| 06:07.13 | CIA-14 | 03roartindon * r46678 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 06:07.13 | CIA-14 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 06:07.13 | CIA-14 | - Allowed tags to have numbers as non-first character |
| 06:07.13 | CIA-14 | - Added Integer, Percent1, Decimal1 convenience tags |
| 06:07.29 | CIA-14 | 03roartindon * r46679 10Assessment/Modules/ (Damage.lua Healing.lua Threat.lua): |
| 06:07.29 | CIA-14 | Assessment |
| 06:07.29 | CIA-14 | - Make use of Integer, Decimal1, Percent1 tags |
| 06:07.37 | Pkekyo | rofl, indeed |
| 06:07.38 | NightHawkTheSane | " |
| 06:07.38 | NightHawkTheSane | "shit, shit, shit! I don't have proper fare!" |
| 06:07.47 | Pkekyo | lmfao |
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| 06:10.49 | Pkekyo | rofl, someone dropped a screenie of a leading alliance guild's GMotD on realm forums...powerleveling services and such.. |
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| 06:15.08 | Pkekyo | Man the cannons! Hoist the mainsail! Run up the Jolly Roger! No quarter! Nail their gizzards to the yardarm, and send them straight to Davy Jones' locker! Yarr! And another bottle of rum! |
| 06:15.24 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r46680 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_DB.lua YGS_GUI.lua YssGuildShop.lua): |
| 06:15.24 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 06:15.24 | CIA-14 | - viewing received data now working (still having some itemID issues to workout) |
| 06:15.48 | Pkekyo | guildshop? sounds fancy |
| 06:15.48 | Pkekyo | ~guildshop |
| 06:15.54 | Silowyi | !ar 428 |
| 06:15.54 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Arena rating from 428 points is, 2v2: 1691, 3v3: 1634, 5v5: 1546 |
| 06:16.16 | Yssaril_ | hehe should be fancy once everything is up and running |
| 06:16.22 | Pkekyo | what does it do? |
| 06:16.46 | Pkekyo | 50g to the one who produces an addon that can get my guild JC to log on at 8am :p |
| 06:17.18 | Yssaril_ | for now just recordes items and how many of that item someone has and then shares it with the guild |
| 06:17.45 | Pkekyo | so basicly, it's datamining my inventory/bank and let the officers see what I ninjaed? :O |
| 06:17.46 | Yssaril_ | intended final purpose is to be able to set values to the items and then designate a guildbank rank |
| 06:18.10 | Yssaril_ | then the bank shares its data and people can request/buy said items |
| 06:18.48 | Yssaril_ | and all the banker would have to do is go to the mailbox open get all new mail go to the bank pickup stuff people bought and go back to the bank and send it off |
| 06:18.52 | Pkekyo | sounds interesting...confusing, very much so, but interesting :> |
| 06:19.02 | Yssaril_ | all automated so all you have to to is run back and forth |
| 06:19.25 | Yssaril_ | still needs alot of coding to be done |
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| 06:20.13 | Yssaril_ | also it will give each user the option of sharing their own items and they can select which items to share |
| 06:20.31 | Yssaril_ | and you can see all your alts stuff too O.o |
| 06:22.27 | Pkekyo | - but it requires all guildies to utilize the function to have the addon installed? |
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| 06:24.56 | Diao | seems quite complicated |
| 06:25.06 | Diao | esp when gbanks are coming next patch :p |
| 06:25.12 | CIA-14 | 03jerry * r46681 10lern2count/Core.lua: lern2count: When buttons are moved, ReagentList[] might not be correct, so fix it. |
| 06:25.41 | Pkekyo | Diao: say wha? gbanks? |
| 06:26.05 | omega | ss or it aint true! :p |
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| 06:27.10 | Diao | wasn't it? |
| 06:27.17 | Diao | next patch is ingame voip and guild banks |
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| 06:28.19 | Pkekyo | how does the gbank stuff work? |
| 06:28.25 | Diao | supposedly |
| 06:28.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think guild banks are showing up in 2.2... |
| 06:28.45 | Diao | oh |
| 06:28.47 | Diao | they postponed it |
| 06:28.47 | Diao | ? |
| 06:28.59 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't ever recall it being planned for 2.2, but I might be wrong |
| 06:29.06 | Diao | hmm |
| 06:29.08 | Diao | cause i remember |
| 06:29.17 | omega | this one time, at band camp? |
| 06:29.22 | Diao | that post on wow general with the picture of a gaming mag |
| 06:29.29 | Diao | saying that wow would have voip and guild banks in 2.2 |
| 06:29.34 | Diao | and nethaera commenting on it |
| 06:30.01 | Diao | anyway supposedly it's a bank that anyone in the guild can access |
| 06:30.13 | Diao | and guild master sets permissions as to who can withdraw what types of items |
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| 06:30.16 | Diao | from the bank |
| 06:30.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah,I remember they were working on it |
| 06:30.36 | Pkekyo | huh |
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| 06:31.55 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah,its not in the 2.2 test realm patch notes, so *shrug* |
| 06:32.04 | Diao | oh |
| 06:32.14 | Diao | i guess they postponed it for another patch then |
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| 06:36.53 | Diao | oh |
| 06:36.57 | Diao | just looked it up |
| 06:37.02 | Diao | apparently it'll be implemented "before zul'aman" |
| 06:37.06 | Jp^ | dudes how can i register my nick? |
| 06:37.07 | Diao | which is 2.4? |
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| 06:37.11 | Diao | so patch 2.3 i suppose |
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| 06:38.19 | Pkekyo | zul'aman still that far away? damn, that sucks |
| 06:38.44 | Diao | lol |
| 06:38.49 | Diao | yeah :\ |
| 06:39.08 | Pkekyo | zul'aman will be a 10man, correct? |
| 06:39.44 | NightHawkTheSane | iirc, yeah |
| 06:40.25 | Pkekyo | stupid blizz |
| 06:40.25 | Pkekyo | should've added more than one 10man before release tbh |
| 06:40.32 | Pkekyo | tbc release, that is |
| 06:40.56 | Jp^ | dudes what is teh command to register my nick here? :) |
| 06:40.57 | Tupsi | zulaman is scheduled (at the moment) for 2.3 |
| 06:41.14 | Tupsi | Jp^ try /nickserv help |
| 06:42.28 | Tupsi | Pkekyo your def. of "that war" is a strange one |
| 06:42.34 | Tupsi | w=f |
| 06:43.06 | Pkekyo | Tupsi: say what? |
| 06:43.21 | Pkekyo | what war? |
| 06:43.34 | Jp^ | hmm |
| 06:43.41 | Pkekyo | - confused |
| 06:43.43 | Jp^ | Tupsi.. ty i think im reged now |
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| 06:51.11 | eibit | test |
| 06:52.02 | Pkekyo | testar00ni? |
| 06:52.10 | eibit | success! |
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| 06:52.24 | eibit | ok, i got a question for you fine folks |
| 06:52.57 | eibit | an ace2 addon (fubar plugin) has an onclick handler i want to hook onto--SW_StatsFu:OnClick()--how do i do that ? |
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| 06:53.32 | eibit | i'm getting non-existent function errors when i try to use AceHook with self:Hook("SW_StatsFu", "OnClick") |
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| 06:57.59 | Speeddymon | wowace.com down? |
| 06:58.03 | Speeddymon | err.. svn |
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| 06:59.11 | ramoz | yes |
| 06:59.42 | Speeddymon | dang |
| 06:59.57 | Speeddymon | so is files. but not the main site... oh well |
| 06:59.58 | Speeddymon | thx |
| 07:00.12 | eibit | can anyone help me ? |
| 07:00.46 | Pkekyo | eibit: sorry, but I'm a complete fucking tool when it comes to such :> |
| 07:01.06 | eibit | at least that's a direct response ;) |
| 07:02.47 | CIA-14 | 03jerry 07jerry * r46682 10Grid/Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLayout.lua): Grid: (branch) Made the Grid Frame resize faster when new pets are added. |
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| 07:04.44 | eibit | ok, i'm getting somewhere.. the onclick function seems to be loaded after my attempt to hook onto it. |
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| 07:07.54 | omega | eibit: perhaps you need to do the hooking in an event that fires when addons are loaded or something? |
| 07:08.12 | omega | like in javascript, one needs to wait for onload to do most initializing that relies on the DOM for instance |
| 07:08.31 | eibit | yeah, i'm familiar with the js case.. just not sure how to do that here.. |
| 07:09.09 | omega | me neither, I wrote one addon, 2 years ago that popped up AgroAlert in red in the middle of the screen when I got agro :p |
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| 07:14.27 | Pkekyo | going to bed now /wavies |
| 07:14.45 | eibit | nighty night |
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| 07:19.08 | CIA-14 | 03roartindon * r46683 10Assessment/Modules/ (Deaths.lua Healing.lua): |
| 07:19.08 | CIA-14 | Assessment |
| 07:19.08 | CIA-14 | - Updated some tags for readability |
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| 07:20.30 | Megalon | eibit: you could register for ADDON_LOADED and hook when you see swstats_fu being loaded |
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| 07:20.44 | eibit | thanks, let me try thta |
| 07:20.46 | eibit | that* |
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| 07:23.35 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r46684 10NBuffBars/ (6 files in 3 dirs): NBuffBars: use Rosterlib; various bugfixes |
| 07:27.55 | CIA-14 | 03killermiles * r46685 10TweakHub/TweakHub.toc: |
| 07:27.55 | CIA-14 | TweakHub |
| 07:27.55 | CIA-14 | - Added missing SavedVariables property to TweakHub.toc. FuBar options will now be saved. |
| 07:29.30 | eibit | hmm.. either it's still too early, or i'm using AceHook incorrectly |
| 07:29.35 | omega | http://www.e-thug.net/pics/lollerskates.gif |
| 07:31.06 | eibit | if i use self:Hook("SW_StatsFu", "OnClick"), i get an error saying that SW_StatsFu is a secure function.. if i use self:SecureHook, it saids the function doesn't exist.. |
| 07:31.32 | eibit | but i in game, if i redefine "function SW_StatsFu:OnClick" in tinypad and run it, it works |
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| 07:41.44 | eibit | ok, i see that ADDON_LOADED gets fired w/ each addon loaded, so i've got it detecting the addon i want to hook onto |
| 07:42.02 | eibit | but i'm still getting the non-existent function error, so my usage of self:Hook() must be wrong somehow.. |
| 07:42.35 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46686 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 07:42.35 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 07:42.35 | CIA-14 | - removed an event from AutoMaximize on Battleground that caused problems |
| 07:43.06 | [Ammo] | eibit: add an optdep to the addon |
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| 07:43.19 | [Ammo] | will force it to be loaded before yours |
| 07:43.24 | [Ammo] | -> function exists |
| 07:43.50 | eibit | is that necessary even if i detect ADDON_LOADED and wait for that addon to be loaded before firing the hook ? |
| 07:43.59 | [Ammo] | it's the best solution |
| 07:44.45 | eibit | ok! partial success |
| 07:45.24 | eibit | if i wait for ADDON_LOADED and check arg1 for FuBar_SWStats2Fu, then redefine "function SW_StatsFu:OnClick()" it works.. but i still don't know how to do it with AceHook.. |
| 07:46.29 | [Ammo] | self:Hook( SW_StatsFU, "OnClick" ) |
| 07:46.45 | abug1 | Captain Hook > AceHook |
| 07:46.47 | eibit | oh! i've been quoting the SW_StatsFu part.. let me try that |
| 07:46.57 | [Ammo] | function self:OnClick( ) ..... |
| 07:47.14 | [Ammo] | read the acehook docs |
| 07:47.26 | eibit | i did |
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| 07:47.56 | pb_ee1 | Morning |
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| 07:51.18 | eibit | ok, partial success again.. |
| 07:51.26 | eibit | the self:Hook(..) call seems to have worked.. |
| 07:51.44 | eibit | except now only my OnClick() runs, and SW_StatsFu:OnClick() doesn't appear to |
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| 07:53.25 | eibit | oh.. looks like i have to call the original myself.. |
| 07:54.01 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 07:54.41 | eibit | but do i call it with self.hooks["OnClick"](), self.hooks["SW_StatsFu"](), or self.hooks["SW_StatsFu:OnClick"]() ? |
| 07:55.16 | eibit | oh wait.. nm.. hold on.. |
| 07:55.33 | [Ammo] | self.hooks[SW_StatsFu]["OnClick"]() |
| 07:55.47 | eibit | yep, i should learn to read |
| 07:55.49 | [Ammo] | self.hooks[SW_StatsFu]["OnClick"](SW_StatsFu, ... ) even |
| 07:55.50 | eibit | ! |
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| 08:00.55 | Fisker-- | Anyone know if i can do a loop in bash that can run multithreaded? |
| 08:01.11 | Fisker-- | so it doesn't have to wait for one command to finish to do another |
| 08:01.48 | Jaxon | I would just launch new non-interactive shells in the background |
| 08:02.04 | Fisker-- | :o? |
| 08:02.26 | Jaxon | & |
| 08:03.13 | Fisker-- | don't think i have the bufferspace for that :P |
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| 08:03.59 | Jaxon | Well, I've never wanted to do anything like that, but thats what comes to mind :\ |
| 08:05.10 | art3mis | god of qwar 2 is super fun |
| 08:05.14 | art3mis | err war |
| 08:05.36 | art3mis | and surprisingly there's a ton of nudity in it |
| 08:05.48 | Jaxon | The first has a decent chunk too. |
| 08:05.51 | eibit | ok, got it working the way i want it to work. thanks a ton Ammo! |
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| 08:10.18 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46687 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 08:10.18 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 08:10.18 | CIA-14 | - now observing system messages for smartMinimize |
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| 08:35.18 | Sole | good evening (morning) |
| 08:36.19 | Grum | Morning :) |
| 08:38.05 | Keya | good morning |
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| 08:42.18 | ramoz | hm |
| 08:42.27 | ramoz | $400 for the spectral tiger card on ebay |
| 08:42.57 | Grum | cheap |
| 08:43.04 | Grum | buy it and sell it for $1000 |
| 08:43.47 | ramoz | really? |
| 08:43.55 | ramoz | there is one dude on my server who has it |
| 08:44.00 | ramoz | wonder how much he paid |
| 08:45.47 | Grum | wondering if that is restricted to US only |
| 08:48.27 | ramoz | no |
| 08:48.33 | ramoz | i play on eu realms |
| 08:49.02 | Jaxon | I'm having trouble finding a chart that shows how much experience pets need to get from one level to the next. |
| 08:49.07 | Grum | if you look at the prices of some of the other 'rare' items you might as well buy one =D |
| 08:51.45 | ramoz | i want a turtle mount |
| 08:52.39 | ramoz | hrmf |
| 08:52.45 | ramoz | 2.2 is only 79mb =( |
| 08:52.54 | ramoz | 74.8* |
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| 08:53.53 | Grum | hmmm |
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| 09:11.06 | Wobin_ | !c us argent dawn slimmo |
| 09:11.09 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Slimmo, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (10/51/0). 9457 HP; 6123 Mana; 109 mana regen; 11573 Armour; 97.9 Melee DPS; 4.25% melee crit; 160 +spell dmg/heal; 251 defense; 9.5% dodge; 12.2% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1383 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq2t5n ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sfxbu ]] |
| 09:12.38 | Megalon | your char? |
| 09:13.38 | Fritti | !c eu earthen ring ithor |
| 09:13.41 | ThraeBot | Fritti: Ithor, Level 70 Human Paladin (15/46/0). 10897 HP; 5028 Mana; 96 mana regen; 10 mp5; 11721 Armour; 630 AP; 90.7 Melee DPS; 4.81% melee crit; 8 spell hit; 180 +spell dmg/heal; 336 defense; 17.38% dodge; 11.48% block;[[ TBR: 1507 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrvt9l ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2lg7mz ]] |
| 09:14.34 | Fritti | hmm, no parry in there |
| 09:15.58 | Megalon | yea, that's what i was wondering about |
| 09:16.06 | Megalon | prot specc without +5% parry |
| 09:16.16 | Fritti | I just started tanking Kara :) |
| 09:16.28 | Fritti | no time for real raiding for me |
| 09:16.43 | Fritti | so I had SoR for a bit more dmg output in 5-mans |
| 09:16.46 | CIA-14 | 03fin * r46689 10Prat/textures/ (prat.tga prat.tga): Prat: textures/prat.tga: me big time graphics maker! me make graphics! pretty graphics. |
| 09:17.17 | Megalon | ah |
| 09:17.24 | CIA-14 | 03fin * r46690 10Prat/textures/old.prat.tga: Prat: textures/old.prat.tga: kickin it old school, keepin it real. word. |
| 09:17.50 | CIA-14 | 03fin * r46691 10Prat/Prat_Modules/includes.xml: Prat: Prat_Modules/includes.xml: removed ChatHead entry |
| 09:19.28 | Wobin_ | Megalon: nope |
| 09:19.37 | Wobin_ | I use Thraebot to snoop on partymember stats |
| 09:20.05 | Grum | grin |
| 09:20.12 | Grum | see if you are grouped with nubs or not =D |
| 09:20.28 | CIA-14 | 03fin * r46692 10Prat/ (icon.tga icon.tga): Prat: icon.tga: consistency is the mother of control and the wife of thoroughness. and she's great in the sack. |
| 09:20.52 | Wobin_ | yeah =) |
| 09:21.11 | Wobin_ | bah, if consistancy were all that, she'd be boring |
| 09:21.40 | Wobin_ | also |
| 09:21.44 | Wobin_ | she appears to be married |
| 09:21.48 | Wobin_ | cheater |
| 09:22.03 | Megalon | Wobin_: ah kk ;DD |
| 09:22.45 | Fritti | Wobin_: hehe |
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| 10:22.13 | Grum | I've had some problems with the 'colorpickerframe' when doing stuff on my cartographer addon - it always ends up *behind* cartographer, any easy way to solve this? |
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| 10:42.02 | Diao | ffs |
| 10:42.05 | Diao | i keep getting dced :( |
| 10:42.25 | Grum | buy real intarweb! |
| 10:43.03 | Diao | the weird thing is |
| 10:43.05 | Diao | i only dc from freenode |
| 10:43.06 | Diao | nothing else |
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| 10:44.13 | [KzM]Fatalis | try a different freenode server? |
| 10:44.21 | [KzM]Fatalis | http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml |
| 10:47.11 | CIA-14 | 03anxarces * r46693 10ProfessionsBook/ (8 files): |
| 10:47.11 | CIA-14 | ProfessionsBook |
| 10:47.11 | CIA-14 | -Recipes in the aution house will be color coded |
| 10:47.11 | CIA-14 | -Information added to recipe tooltips to show which charcter knows or may learn the recipe |
| 10:47.11 | CIA-14 | -Fixed an error in the message displaying the number of new recipes |
| 10:47.12 | CIA-14 | -Last selected character in ProfessionsBook will be remeberd and preselected when opening PB again. |
| 11:01.07 | Pkekyo | FUCK YEAH! passed my driver's exam |
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| 11:03.47 | Punkie` | grats |
| 11:04.51 | ramoz | Pkekyo: gz! how much did you pay together? 20k NOK? |
| 11:05.01 | Pkekyo | nah, only 360 |
| 11:05.15 | ramoz | wut |
| 11:05.25 | Pkekyo | - the theory exam, that is |
| 11:05.51 | ramoz | Oh |
| 11:05.56 | ramoz | ... |
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| 11:06.32 | Pkekyo | the whole shit is gonna cost approx 20k NOK, aye |
| 11:06.55 | xyu | what's a NOK |
| 11:06.57 | ramoz | theroy exam is a easy? |
| 11:07.04 | ramoz | a nok is money |
| 11:07.04 | Pkekyo | NOK = norwegian currency |
| 11:07.13 | xyu | ah |
| 11:07.17 | ramoz | 8NOK ~= 1EURO |
| 11:07.19 | Pkekyo | approx 1/11th of GBP |
| 11:07.45 | Pkekyo | ramoz: I wouldn't mind if it was easier |
| 11:07.51 | Gagorian | Seems quite expensive there. |
| 11:08.02 | Pkekyo | aye, it is |
| 11:08.07 | Gagorian | I paid somewhat around 1000 euros for motorcycle and car licenses. |
| 11:08.13 | xyu | How old do you have to be to get your liscense? |
| 11:08.27 | ramoz | Pkekyo: maybe its changed, was easy when i took it |
| 11:08.32 | Pkekyo | Moped, light MC - 16, car - 18 |
| 11:08.32 | ramoz | xyu: 18 |
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| 11:10.43 | dodga | Patch inc! omgomgomg |
| 11:10.54 | Pkekyo | say what? patchage? |
| 11:11.06 | dodga | The WoW launcher is download 2.2 |
| 11:11.13 | dodga | 75 MB |
| 11:11.26 | Pkekyo | background download? |
| 11:11.53 | dodga | yep |
| 11:12.11 | Pkekyo | cool |
| 11:12.20 | xyu | are they nerfing blessing of sacrifice this patch? |
| 11:14.17 | Hjalte | Has Blizzard said anything about when they are doing something about priests lightwell and especially circle of healing? |
| 11:16.38 | xyu | ha i didn't see they added that little "afk reporting" thing. |
| 11:16.45 | xyu | doens't look likeit's going to work but still |
| 11:16.57 | Gagorian | Isn't lightwell supposed to get +healing bonus starting next patch? |
| 11:17.03 | Pkekyo | 1x Star of Elune, 1x Talasite, 2x Living Ruby, 2x Nightseye <--- my night's profits... + 90g worth of dailies |
| 11:17.25 | dodga | Hjalte: They'll probably change the icons :P |
| 11:17.53 | Hjalte | dodga, doh!, that will help for sure.. |
| 11:18.20 | Hjalte | Gagorian, yeah, it is at some point, but that will still not be a huge help.. Only a minor upgrade. |
| 11:19.06 | Gagorian | Do you know the coefficient then? |
| 11:19.31 | Hjalte | Gagorian, I would assume 100% like renew |
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| 11:20.07 | Hjalte | But Lightwell is still just a bandage for lazy people - A strong bandage, but very situational and breaking on damage. |
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| 11:21.20 | dodga | That's why it's called lolwell :P |
| 11:21.34 | dodga | I snicker everytime I see a Priest that casts it |
| 11:21.42 | dodga | Because wtf would spec into that crap :P |
| 11:21.50 | dodga | Deep Holy is totally useless :D |
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| 11:22.18 | omega | priest has become a mage with only one talent tree :p |
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| 11:22.28 | Diao | o_O |
| 11:22.32 | Diao | deep holy isn't useless |
| 11:22.40 | dodga | omega: Nah, healing Priests are okay, but I wouldn't spec more than 30 or 31 points in holy |
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| 11:23.00 | Gngsk | isn't circle of healing the pwn? |
| 11:23.03 | dodga | lolwell sucks, CoH sucks, Clearcasting for Priests sucks, ... |
| 11:23.07 | Diao | CoH is decent |
| 11:23.08 | Hjalte | Stupid Chatzilla client crashing when Firefox is crashing.. |
| 11:23.14 | Diao | as long as all 5 party |
| 11:23.16 | Diao | are nearby |
| 11:23.19 | Diao | otherwise it's not worth the mana |
| 11:23.22 | Gagorian | CoH is pretty nice on several encounters |
| 11:23.27 | Gngsk | bloodboil! |
| 11:23.30 | dodga | Gngsk: Dunno.. 700 healing is not too much IMHO, but I hear people saying it's nice |
| 11:23.31 | Gagorian | Reliquary of Souls, Bloodboil etc |
| 11:23.37 | Hjalte | CoH is not very good. Useless in raids, and only limited use in 5-mans. I already have Prayer of Healing! |
| 11:23.38 | Diao | clearcasting is great |
| 11:23.42 | Diao | don't know why you don't like it |
| 11:23.46 | dodga | Gagorian: Bleh, Prayer of Healing :P |
| 11:23.52 | Diao | prayer is different |
| 11:23.54 | dodga | Diao: Percentage too low |
| 11:23.57 | Diao | a) cast time |
| 11:24.00 | Hjalte | Clearcasting should work on "Healing" also |
| 11:24.00 | Gagorian | Prayer wouldn't work in that situation |
| 11:24.03 | Diao | b) the radius is around the priest, not the target |
| 11:24.36 | dodga | Yeah I know |
| 11:24.56 | Diao | and |
| 11:24.57 | dodga | Still you would be healing more with PoH in the same time I think |
| 11:25.00 | Diao | who actually uses healing |
| 11:25.03 | Diao | er |
| 11:25.05 | Diao | regular/lesser heal |
| 11:25.09 | Diao | instead of GH/FH |
| 11:25.13 | Hjalte | Yes, prayer is different, CoH does not make me a much better healer. I want the end tier talent of my holy tree to make me a better healer. |
| 11:25.19 | Gagorian | You can't raid heal with PoH |
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| 11:25.50 | Diao | an instant cast |
| 11:25.51 | Diao | aoe heal |
| 11:25.55 | Diao | doesn't make you a better healer? |
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| 11:25.57 | Hjalte | I wouldnt use CoH in raids either, not for anything "usefull" that couldnt be healed by someone else at least |
| 11:27.26 | Gagorian | Well, it's pretty good on Reliquary and Gurtogg |
| 11:27.41 | dodga | Whoohoo, two fights that make a 41 point talent useful |
| 11:27.45 | dodga | Way to go Blizztard! :D |
| 11:28.17 | Gagorian | Well, I guess Teron as well! :P |
| 11:28.19 | Diao | plus everyone knows priests go deep holy for pvp ;p |
| 11:28.25 | Tinhay | What does CoH roughly heal for, assuming a Priest with 2k +healing that's specced for it? |
| 11:28.29 | Gngsk | it's not useful for those encounters |
| 11:28.31 | Gngsk | it's 100% overpowered |
| 11:29.05 | Gagorian | Yeah, well, our priest tops the healing meters on those easily |
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| 11:29.48 | dodga | Tinhay: CoH does not get any benefit out of +healing AFAIK |
| 11:29.58 | dodga | And last I heard was it heals for roughly 700-800 |
| 11:30.19 | Gagorian | Well afaik it gets 33% |
| 11:30.58 | cryogen | i dunno, coh is pretty nice, it's not RAWR or anything |
| 11:31.01 | sb | mh CoH > shaman CH? |
| 11:31.03 | Gagorian | actually. it's porbably 14.29% |
| 11:31.05 | cryogen | but end tier talents arent supposed to be |
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| 11:31.12 | Hjalte | What i would really like as a priest would be the ability to "save" someone. That could be by making them loose aggro, make them temporarily invulnerability or something. That could be useful. |
| 11:31.13 | sb | dont think so :o |
| 11:31.25 | cryogen | if the 41 point holy talent was too good, everyone would be forced to spec it |
| 11:31.28 | sb | Hjalte: there is paladins for that :p |
| 11:31.29 | cryogen | and blizzard dont want that |
| 11:31.47 | Tinhay | *cough* Mangle *cough* |
| 11:31.52 | Diao | ergh |
| 11:31.54 | Diao | stupid freenode |
| 11:31.54 | Gagorian | Yup. (1.5/3.5) * (1/3) |
| 11:32.01 | dodga | cryogen: So wait.. You mean if I go shadow I don't need to spec VT? :P |
| 11:32.02 | cryogen | noone is forced to spec mangle |
| 11:32.09 | cryogen | its just part of feral spec |
| 11:32.11 | Tinhay | all feral druids are :> |
| 11:32.39 | cryogen | dodga: if the 41 pt talent was too imba, guilds wont want shadowpriests anymore |
| 11:33.10 | sb | well.. you also cant play shadow priest w/o 41 talent |
| 11:33.19 | cryogen | thats not the point though |
| 11:33.27 | dodga | cryogen: The 41 point talent is the only thing that rectifies shadowpriests in raids |
| 11:33.31 | cryogen | guilds dont force you to spec 41 shadow to join their raid :) |
| 11:33.41 | sb | oh yes they do :p |
| 11:33.45 | cryogen | they are more likely to make you spec holy if holy priests didnt suck |
| 11:34.00 | dodga | Come on now |
| 11:34.10 | dodga | Holy priests are okay on healing |
| 11:34.11 | Diao | hm strange |
| 11:34.15 | Diao | http://www.wowwiki.com/Healing_Comparison |
| 11:34.16 | dodga | They are not to uber, they are okay |
| 11:34.18 | Diao | according to that |
| 11:34.18 | cryogen | i, being a shadow priest, would much prefer holy stayed a shit spec :) |
| 11:34.24 | dodga | They could use some love, but whatever |
| 11:34.39 | dodga | But no guild whatsoever would take a shadow without VT |
| 11:34.40 | [Ammo] | you need 1 holy priest in raid for spirit buff and forti :p |
| 11:34.43 | Diao | CoH gains +1 HPS per 3.5 +heal |
| 11:34.43 | sb | blizz should love engineers first ;p |
| 11:34.47 | Diao | which is 100% gain |
| 11:34.52 | Diao | that's not holy, that's disc ;) |
| 11:34.56 | cryogen | dodga: that isnt the point |
| 11:35.06 | cryogen | dodga: healing wise, there are two pretty viable specs |
| 11:35.21 | cryogen | if 41 point holy was *needed* noone would spec spirit, ever |
| 11:35.23 | cryogen | for example |
| 11:35.31 | sb | hm right :p |
| 11:35.39 | sb | 23/38 <3 |
| 11:35.44 | dodga | cryogen: Of course there are. But if I were to be holy I would spec 31 points into holy at most without taking lightwell |
| 11:35.55 | Hjalte | I don't think we want it to be *needed*, but it would be nice if it was good... |
| 11:36.02 | cryogen | dodga: because the 41 point talent sucks, mainly, i bet |
| 11:36.11 | cryogen | dodga: if it didnt, you would rethink that im sure |
| 11:36.13 | [Ammo] | maybe I should have said 'healing priest' instead of holy |
| 11:36.15 | dodga | cryogen: Because there is not enough good stuff in the holy tree, imho |
| 11:36.16 | Diao | every heal spec priest i know is some variation of 23/38, 24/37, 28/33 |
| 11:36.19 | [Ammo] | but spirit is what you bring em for |
| 11:36.25 | dodga | But I always had strange opinions on healing as priest :D |
| 11:36.26 | Diao | there is no 'at most' 31 in holy |
| 11:36.27 | cryogen | dodga: yes, that s my point oO :p |
| 11:36.29 | dodga | I also dislike spirit :D |
| 11:36.37 | dodga | cryogen: Oh, okay then :D |
| 11:36.49 | Diao | except for 1 priest i know who is 19/42 |
| 11:36.56 | dodga | Diao: Smack him from me :P |
| 11:37.03 | cryogen | dodga: if they make the 41 point talent really imba all of a sudden it becomes good anda everyone must spec it |
| 11:37.17 | cryogen | pre tbc release it looked as if it woudl be that way |
| 11:37.23 | cryogen | but they changed it quite a bit before release :) |
| 11:37.29 | lhunath | what's up with files.wowace.com? |
| 11:37.56 | lhunath | webserver seems to have gone down |
| 11:38.22 | Diao | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxMGzIZfxthcMoVhAo <- his strange spec |
| 11:38.31 | Diao | for pvp mostly |
| 11:39.42 | sb | mhh - strange? well.. look at mine ;p |
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| 11:39.51 | sb | cant every imaging not to spec surge of light... its too <3 :p |
| 11:40.02 | sb | even if i dont need it in raids (exepct leotheras ;o) |
| 11:40.31 | Diao | isn't it bugged atm |
| 11:40.31 | Diao | o_o |
| 11:40.36 | Diao | or did they fix it |
| 11:41.52 | sb | yup bugged |
| 11:41.57 | sb | so its even more <3 ;) |
| 11:42.00 | Diao | lol |
| 11:43.33 | cryogen | just shows you how underpowered holy priests are tho |
| 11:43.50 | cryogen | i mean it sounds like an imba bug on paper(and well it is) but its still so lame they cant be arsed to hotfix it :p |
| 11:44.17 | Diao | can't you just |
| 11:44.21 | Diao | stack crit gear like crazy |
| 11:44.26 | Diao | and be really really gay |
| 11:44.30 | Diao | lol |
| 11:45.11 | cryogen | well until someone goes into arena with that gear and owns a few people with chain insta cast smites |
| 11:45.20 | cryogen | they wont do anything urgent about it :p |
| 11:46.23 | Diao | indeed |
| 11:46.35 | cryogen | oh and someone would have to put it on youtube too |
| 11:46.40 | Diao | but all the holy priests in arena wear +healing gear instead of dmg atm :( |
| 11:46.45 | Diao | and they're impossible to kill |
| 11:46.56 | sb | mh |
| 11:47.02 | sb | i prefer mixed gear |
| 11:47.29 | sb | lots of resilience + stamina, some spelldmg (~200), more heal (~1000) |
| 11:47.50 | sb | dots + sw:death are pretty important there ;) |
| 11:48.18 | Diao | on my warrior i hate them |
| 11:48.25 | Diao | cause i can't kill when i crit a hamstring |
| 11:48.30 | Diao | stupid crit immune bs |
| 11:48.41 | Diao | on my friend's pally i hate them cause of mana burn |
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| 11:50.45 | exuser | Hi all |
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| 11:51.31 | exuser | anyone will to help me with nQuest? |
| 11:51.43 | dodga | Diao: Mana Burn should be instant with 3s cooldown :DDD |
| 11:52.11 | Diao | no thanks |
| 11:52.15 | dodga | Yes please! |
| 11:52.21 | Diao | at least i can dodge half the burns |
| 11:52.26 | Diao | by los |
| 11:52.33 | dodga | Dirty LoS players :p |
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| 12:03.55 | Grum | <Diao> every heal spec priest i know is some variation of 23/38, 24/37, 28/33 <-- dont underestimate the power of CoH :) |
| 12:04.46 | Grum | CoH is nice but it can benefit a bit more from +healing if you ask me :) |
| 12:05.14 | exuser | what exactly is CoH? |
| 12:05.22 | Grum | but when used right you hit with an instant spell for 4000-6000 that only costs 400 mana |
| 12:05.25 | Grum | Circle of Healing |
| 12:05.38 | exuser | oh cool |
| 12:05.42 | Grum | instant weak targetted Prayer of Healing |
| 12:06.09 | Grum | you can target 1 person from a group and cast it onto them - from thereout it heals any groupmember of that person within 15yrd |
| 12:06.46 | Grum | with ~1700-1800+healing it does 800-1200(crits), it's instant and uses about 400 mana (depending on spec again - can be ~445) |
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| 12:07.05 | Grum | depending on the boss you can totally abuse it till no end |
| 12:07.24 | Grum | Morogrim for example .. by the end of the fight i've healed 80% of my healing with CoH only |
| 12:08.11 | Grum | costs you just 1 point and there is nothign you will miss in Disciple with that 1 single point ;D |
| 12:08.23 | Grum | eventhough people love the +10% manapool |
| 12:08.48 | Grum | oh. .. someone give me a spectral tiger card .. now .. please ;D |
| 12:09.16 | kenlyric | 10% manapool? |
| 12:09.18 | kenlyric | nobody loves that. |
| 12:09.27 | kenlyric | everybody loves imp DS. |
| 12:09.41 | Grum | that just gives +50 orso on a priest |
| 12:09.53 | kenlyric | yeah, more like +20 on damage dealers. |
| 12:09.55 | Grum | and a lot less on any other class since non spec for int ;) |
| 12:09.57 | Grum | indeed |
| 12:10.00 | Grum | totalllly useless :) |
| 12:10.03 | kenlyric | but that's 20 per caster. |
| 12:10.39 | Grum | about 7-9 caster per raid.. 140-180 |
| 12:11.22 | kenlyric | most of the topend guilds say CoH is wonderful... on your second holy priest :) |
| 12:11.34 | Grum | hehe |
| 12:11.50 | [Ammo] | what a second holy priest in a raid? |
| 12:11.57 | Grum | hehe |
| 12:11.59 | [Ammo] | that implies having 2 in the guild |
| 12:12.01 | [Ammo] | zomg |
| 12:12.02 | kenlyric | yeah, I know. |
| 12:12.04 | Grum | we have 2-4 coming along ;D |
| 12:12.07 | kenlyric | I think that's the point. |
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| 12:12.47 | Grum | hehe |
| 12:12.54 | Grum | holy priests seem a bit 'unused' :) |
| 12:13.07 | ravagernl | http://talents.utimer.ppvh.eu/?p=vt&i=33058 kek! |
| 12:13.13 | kenlyric | if Imp DS scaled with priest spirit instead of the recipients spirit, it would be... even more unbeatable. |
| 12:13.23 | ravagernl | look at revenge in beastmastery tree |
| 12:13.29 | Grum | *THEN* it would be useful kenlyric |
| 12:13.35 | kenlyric | it's useful now. |
| 12:13.58 | kenlyric | that's a lot of spell damage for one buff to bring to the raid. |
| 12:14.40 | Grum | i'd replace my gems with +spi right away :) |
| 12:15.18 | Grum | get some +spi enchants .. rawr |
| 12:15.30 | Grum | should be able to touch 700-800 spi buffed |
| 12:15.53 | kenlyric | before I got primal mooncloth I hit 700 buffed. |
| 12:16.21 | kenlyric | then I came to my senses and realized how horrible spirit gems were. |
| 12:17.45 | Grum | hihi indeed |
| 12:17.51 | Grum | depending on your FSR at least |
| 12:18.20 | kenlyric | to compete with blizzard's itemization value of spirit vs mp5, you have to be inside 5sr less than 65% of the time. |
| 12:18.27 | kenlyric | which is utterly insane. |
| 12:18.32 | Grum | yup |
| 12:18.39 | Grum | i hit about 70-75% orso |
| 12:18.43 | Grum | and i'm trying then :\ |
| 12:19.05 | kenlyric | given the spirit adds other benefits (damage/healing), I think a more fair valuation puts it around 75-80% FSR. |
| 12:19.22 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:19.32 | Grum | but then then have to up the 10% regen to ~20 orso |
| 12:19.37 | kenlyric | without those talents though, the regen doesn't even out until the mid 80s. |
| 12:21.53 | kenlyric | I lost about 80 spirit when I got primal mooncloth and switched to the 9h/2mp5 gems |
| 12:21.58 | kenlyric | it made me a sad panda. |
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| 12:22.53 | Grum | kenlyric: but you gained +20-40mp5 while casting |
| 12:23.08 | kenlyric | indeedy. |
| 12:23.20 | kenlyric | mostly through the set bonus which is affected by spirit.... |
| 12:23.26 | kenlyric | I <3 blizzard. |
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| 12:29.36 | Stan__ | *downloads 2.2 part 1* |
| 12:29.41 | exuser | hey does anyone use nQuest ? |
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| 12:31.23 | Beutju | can please anyone tell me what I shall do with this .application file? |
| 12:31.30 | Beutju | i have .net 2.0 |
| 12:31.44 | Beutju | but i cannot start it without getting an error -.- |
| 12:32.38 | Stan__ | Beutju: read the instructions on the wiki page please |
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| 12:35.47 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r46694 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: SinkLib - fix bcf support function |
| 12:36.29 | Beutju | i have xp // i have .net 2.0 // i added wowace in IE |
| 12:37.21 | Beutju | the last weeks i used an older version (42.491) and everything worked fine, but now this version says it cannot connect |
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| 12:37.47 | CIA-14 | 03aldmehr * r46695 10ReadySpells/Readme.txt: ReadySpells: v0.77 readme.txt update. |
| 12:38.43 | kenlyric | i'm still waiting for wau2 to get to working order before I try it out, so I can't really help. |
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| 12:43.18 | exuser | um whats wau2? |
| 12:43.30 | exuser | Wow ace updater 2? |
| 12:43.35 | Beutju | http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 12:43.40 | exuser | thanks |
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| 12:44.53 | Beutju | does anyone else having problems with ag_uf on testrealm? |
| 12:45.20 | exuser | not here |
| 12:45.29 | exuser | there is a test realm? |
| 12:45.50 | exuser | whats that about ? |
| 12:48.29 | Beutju | normal wow testrealm? |
| 12:48.34 | kenlyric | uh. |
| 12:48.36 | kenlyric | lol |
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| 13:01.34 | Neebler | http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/flash/WAR-pp_2007-07_painting.html |
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| 13:02.33 | syeren | [Ammo] :)? |
| 13:04.31 | [Ammo] | ? |
| 13:05.11 | syeren | I don't know if you know about this already, but my Witch Hunter recently lost the ability to choose which scroll area it's messages appear on Parrot. |
| 13:05.24 | Viper007Bond | holy crap, i just worked out the math and according to xfire, i've played WoW for 8.2 hours a day on average for the past 8.5 months :| |
| 13:05.36 | Viper007Bond | WTB [Life] |
| 13:05.51 | syeren | You're missing the "Primal" Pre-fix. |
| 13:05.52 | syeren | ;) |
| 13:05.58 | Viper007Bond | lol |
| 13:06.06 | [Ammo] | syeren: works fine for me |
| 13:06.09 | [Ammo] | but could be a sinklib bug |
| 13:06.16 | kenlyric | Viper007Bond: heh, do you play at work? |
| 13:06.41 | syeren | I'll take a screenshot for you [Ammo] :) |
| 13:06.46 | Viper007Bond | kenlyric: "work" ? |
| 13:06.48 | [Ammo] | syeren: not interested |
| 13:06.55 | [Ammo] | syeren: report it to sinklib authors |
| 13:06.57 | kenlyric | oh, then that's really sad :) |
| 13:07.28 | CIA-14 | 03darchon * r46696 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua: Bartender3: koKR Update |
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| 13:07.53 | dodga | What about WitchHunt not showing enemy players' buff gains/losses :o |
| 13:08.01 | [Ammo] | it did so for me |
| 13:08.08 | [Ammo] | but meh |
| 13:08.22 | kenlyric | it does for me, overmuch. |
| 13:08.23 | dodga | Which revision? :D |
| 13:08.27 | dodga | It does not for me |
| 13:08.35 | dodga | Or is that somehow turned off in arenas? |
| 13:08.39 | dodga | Then I'll shut up :D |
| 13:08.55 | nevcairiel | just tell him it is :D |
| 13:09.01 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 13:09.02 | dodga | nevcairiel: Nice try :D |
| 13:09.05 | [Ammo] | I have no idea |
| 13:09.09 | [Ammo] | I could have cocked it up |
| 13:09.19 | [Ammo] | but I don't pvp |
| 13:09.24 | [Ammo] | so my caring = low atm |
| 13:09.35 | [Ammo] | that and there being bigger fish to fry |
| 13:09.41 | dodga | I'll just spam dispel magic until it says "nothing to dispel" :P |
| 13:09.46 | kenlyric | I can't remember. Why do I have antagonist and witchhunt? |
| 13:09.51 | dodga | I don't like fish. What about hamburgers? |
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| 13:10.24 | [Ammo] | witchhunt = spell alart type addon |
| 13:10.39 | dodga | Antagonist goes crazy most of the time so I have it disabled anyways :D |
| 13:10.44 | dodga | a gazillion bars = wtf :D |
| 13:10.49 | syeren | [Ammo], is the ability to manually decide which frame it appears in by editing the LUA still there? |
| 13:10.58 | syeren | It appears to have changed dramatically since the last time I had to do this. |
| 13:11.05 | nevcairiel | is there a keybinding to override the "dont show launcher" setting? |
| 13:11.17 | [Ammo] | syeren: it's in sinklib |
| 13:11.20 | [Ammo] | a lib designed for that |
| 13:11.30 | syeren | Oki doki. |
| 13:11.43 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: not that i've heard. |
| 13:11.47 | [Ammo] | dodga: you can try commenting out lines 93-100 by adding -- in front of them |
| 13:11.49 | [Ammo] | see if that works |
| 13:12.00 | kenlyric | you can just disable the option and restart the client. |
| 13:12.03 | dodga | will try next time I'm arena-ing |
| 13:12.20 | kenlyric | you don't need to see the launcher to get the patch though. |
| 13:12.34 | nevcairiel | i know, but i wanted to change the settings of the background loader |
| 13:12.41 | [Ammo] | I tried optimizing the filter by adding only the events I'm interested ibn |
| 13:12.47 | [Ammo] | but that might have fucked it up for parser |
| 13:12.57 | [Ammo] | I've seen lightblue text though |
| 13:13.01 | Yssaril | is there a cleaner way to retrive itemdata (from the server if it is not cached) than using GameTooltip:SetHyperlink() ? |
| 13:13.03 | [Ammo] | but could have been mobs only |
| 13:13.16 | syeren | http://www.fabrikate.org/store/WoWScrnShot_081607_135914.jpg |
| 13:13.22 | nevcairiel | Yssaril: use your own tooltip, other then that .. no :) |
| 13:13.22 | syeren | I'm lost in Sinklib [Ammo] :( |
| 13:13.30 | syeren | I guess i'll just report that screenshot. |
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| 13:13.52 | [Ammo] | syeren: does it workj with: /wh output ... |
| 13:14.02 | Yssaril | nevcairiel ok /cry |
| 13:14.03 | [Ammo] | because I don't trust deucecommander |
| 13:14.28 | nevcairiel | who really names his character ilovebeef |
| 13:14.34 | nevcairiel | i hate those people, get a real name ffs :P |
| 13:14.43 | dodga | Somebody who really really likes beef :D |
| 13:15.18 | syeren | [Ammo], it says that it is disabled. |
| 13:15.23 | sb | hmmm beer |
| 13:15.27 | [Ammo] | do you have any other sinklib using addons ? |
| 13:15.46 | syeren | Not that I know of, I didn't realise it even existed until you mentioned it. |
| 13:15.57 | nevcairiel | sb: where did your u go anyway? |
| 13:16.07 | [Ammo] | toggling it from witchhunt -> parrot doesn't enable it? |
| 13:16.07 | syeren | nevcairiel, Beef is a Gnome Female mage with Marge Simpson hair ;) |
| 13:16.34 | nevcairiel | gnomes can have blue hair? |
| 13:16.40 | sb | nevcairiel: some freenode admin freed this (2y unused) nick :o |
| 13:16.47 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:16.50 | syeren | No [Ammo] ;) |
| 13:16.56 | [Ammo] | ohwell |
| 13:17.02 | [Ammo] | well someone reported the bug already with a patch |
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| 13:17.07 | [Ammo] | but I can't evaluate the patch |
| 13:17.18 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46697 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 13:17.18 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 13:17.18 | CIA-14 | - new option: Maximize on mouse over |
| 13:17.31 | Ed``` | out of curiosity anyone have an idea how long it takes to get svn access to submit an addon ? |
| 13:17.35 | cryogen | sb: "some freenode admin"?! |
| 13:17.36 | cryogen | :p |
| 13:17.53 | [Ammo] | Ed```: depends on admin time |
| 13:17.55 | nevcairiel | Ed```: depends on the day, and Kaelten's mood on that day :P |
| 13:17.59 | Ed``` | hehe |
| 13:18.02 | Ed``` | fair enough :) |
| 13:18.13 | sb | nevcairiel: cryogen it was ;p |
| 13:18.42 | syeren | [Ammo], if you give me a link to the patch I can test it for you no problem. |
| 13:18.52 | [Ammo] | somewher eon forums in sinklib thread |
| 13:19.02 | syeren | Of course the quality of the code I can't tell you about :) |
| 13:19.06 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7761.0 |
| 13:19.40 | nevcairiel | sink basicly owned that other output lib eh? |
| 13:19.41 | nevcairiel | what was it called |
| 13:19.59 | [Ammo] | soar was based on the first preliminary sink code that rabbit posted on a pastey |
| 13:20.11 | [Ammo] | when rabbit released sink -> soar was shot down |
| 13:20.24 | nevcairiel | soar |
| 13:20.28 | nevcairiel | *poor soar |
| 13:20.35 | nevcairiel | lived for like 2 days |
| 13:21.00 | Gngsk | ~soar |
| 13:21.01 | purl | somebody said soar was Dan_S's slave!, or 250 years old, and 3 feet tall! |
| 13:21.01 | nevcairiel | where is the rabbit anyway? vacation too? |
| 13:21.07 | [Ammo] | I think so |
| 13:21.12 | [Ammo] | he occasionally posts on forum |
| 13:21.25 | syeren | [Ammo], I'm guessing I just don't replace all the code with that provided there? |
| 13:21.33 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:21.37 | [Ammo] | it's a patch |
| 13:21.43 | [Ammo] | you have to patch the code with t |
| 13:21.48 | [Ammo] | it looks sound btw |
| 13:21.59 | [Ammo] | maybe when I've had a beer this afternoon I'll indulge myself in patching sinklink |
| 13:22.02 | [Ammo] | sinklib |
| 13:22.14 | syeren | It may do, but I have little idea which part of the code to replace or add this >_< |
| 13:22.42 | syeren | Infact, I may have found it! |
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| 13:23.03 | dodga | sb: I got my nick also from some freenode admin, was also unused for over 2 years :D |
| 13:24.00 | syeren | [Ammo], I think I'll just wait and hope that the beer you have tastes good enough! |
| 13:24.56 | exuser | can some one help me with nQuest please |
| 13:24.56 | [Ammo] | syeren: you can apply a patch with tortoise |
| 13:24.58 | [Ammo] | or winmerge |
| 13:25.02 | [Ammo] | or patch under *nix |
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| 13:28.28 | syeren | [Ammo], I opened Sink LUA file in my left window, and the patch in my right window, how do I go about merging them with Winmerge :)? |
| 13:31.10 | Neebler | 5500+ hours playing WoW, according to my xfire |
| 13:33.08 | syeren | Well my button pressing didn't help >_< |
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| 13:36.32 | Neebler | haha I love stumbleupon. http://www.allowe.com/Humor/femalePorn.htm |
| 13:37.04 | sb | lol |
| 13:37.21 | cryogen | im going to go ahead and assume thats nsfw? :) |
| 13:37.29 | Neebler | it's safe |
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| 13:43.22 | [Ammo] | syeren: I don't really see a problem with the sinklib code, but the bug is pretty clear meh |
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| 13:43.28 | [Ammo] | and that patch is evil |
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| 13:44.07 | [Ammo] | syeren: what is your bigwigs sink set to? and yuor Omen one if you use omen? |
| 13:46.07 | syeren | Let me check sorry. |
| 13:46.46 | syeren | It's set to BigWigs [Ammo]. |
| 13:46.54 | syeren | BUT, when I set it to Parrot, it allows me to choose which frame. |
| 13:47.16 | [Ammo] | ok now go into the WH menu |
| 13:47.21 | [Ammo] | does it allow the frame now? |
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| 13:47.58 | syeren | Yes O_o; |
| 13:48.07 | syeren | Nice work :D |
| 13:49.08 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: Do you think it will be possible to have some nice borders like this with PitBull? --> http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/562/alienwareui2eq1.jpg |
| 13:49.48 | pb_ee1 | The idea of having a bar in the middle over the two others is quite cool, too. |
| 13:49.48 | syeren | pb_ee1, don't even bother :P |
| 13:49.56 | Amadeo | lol |
| 13:50.01 | pb_ee1 | ? |
| 13:50.07 | Amadeo | why do the names cover up the health and mana bars!? |
| 13:50.09 | syeren | ckknight + Pitbull = Ermm. |
| 13:50.26 | pb_ee1 | What do you mean? |
| 13:50.38 | [Ammo] | syeren: hrmf |
| 13:50.41 | syeren | [Ammo], would you like to me to go and test the buff gain thing? I haven't noticed any buff gains in quite a while though. |
| 13:50.44 | syeren | And it would be handy :D |
| 13:50.49 | pb_ee1 | There's something missing too, you cannot change the style of the border for elite units :P |
| 13:51.10 | pb_ee1 | yay yay, asking a lot of things today |
| 13:51.15 | syeren | ckknight has no real interest in doing stuff with Pitbull at the moment judging from what he has said to me. |
| 13:51.17 | [Ammo] | well buff gain thing is kinda nasty |
| 13:51.21 | [Ammo] | but I'm fixing something first |
| 13:51.41 | pb_ee1 | argh syeren, something went wrong? |
| 13:51.53 | syeren | No, he just moves onto other stuff quickly ;) |
| 13:52.11 | Gngsk | add it yourself |
| 13:52.24 | pb_ee1 | well ckknight codes... 14? 18? or more addons so i don't expect him to answer/code all requests |
| 13:52.36 | syeren | He's working on Ace3 right now ;) |
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| 13:52.58 | pb_ee1 | Gngsk: yay! or not? i've looked at the code and... well, no. |
| 13:53.06 | pb_ee1 | I know |
| 13:53.10 | Shirik | yay! |
| 13:53.15 | pb_ee1 | Well that's not totally right btw |
| 13:53.26 | pb_ee1 | He's not working on it alone anymore (:P) |
| 13:54.01 | syeren | I'd love it if he would fix the Aura Filter bug that he knows about >_< |
| 13:54.19 | syeren | But he didn't do this remake of the Aura system, and it's completely fucked in comparison to his original version :P |
| 13:54.46 | pb_ee1 | what's wrong with it syeren? |
| 13:55.03 | syeren | It's horrible? |
| 13:55.10 | pb_ee1 | the buff system? |
| 13:55.21 | syeren | It lags quite a lot of people (I don't notice this problem myself,) and the display options are dire ;p |
| 13:55.27 | pb_ee1 | well it's working perfectly for me, but i didn't try to change the default settings |
| 13:55.30 | syeren | As for the Buff Filter, it forgets what it's filtering. |
| 13:55.31 | cladhaire | syeren: pb_ee1: Feed free to post screenshots and such at http://images.gammatester.com |
| 13:55.49 | cladhaire | Its a site I put up, and its extremely fast, since no one uses it :P |
| 13:55.57 | syeren | I have my own space clad ;) |
| 13:56.00 | pb_ee1 | lol clad ;-) |
| 13:56.10 | syeren | http://www.fabrikate.org/store/ |
| 13:56.12 | syeren | Pretty much ;p |
| 13:56.19 | cladhaire | syeren: k k |
| 13:56.25 | pb_ee1 | ouch, 4Mo Max for pictures? How much disk space do you have? |
| 13:56.36 | cladhaire | i only say cause i clicked pb_ee1's screenshot.. and wanted to cry |
| 13:56.50 | pb_ee1 | huh, it's not my UI |
| 13:56.57 | pb_ee1 | I'll NEVER have an UI like that |
| 13:57.00 | cladhaire | no, how long it took to load |
| 13:57.00 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:57.14 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r46698 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: attempt to fix the output scrollarea problems |
| 13:57.27 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 13:57.31 | Amadeo | I was crying at the UI |
| 13:57.36 | syeren | Any plans for Clique clad :P? |
| 13:57.43 | cladhaire | syeren: What do you want done with it? |
| 13:57.45 | syeren | Although I personally see nothing you can do on the features side of thing. |
| 13:57.47 | cladhaire | it hasn't changed since BC Alpha |
| 13:57.50 | pb_ee1 | cladhaire: http://images.lords-zodiac.com/559/bpvncq8k8i.jpg |
| 13:57.55 | syeren | Nah, just on your side of things Clad :) |
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| 13:58.18 | cladhaire | nope, don't see anythign to change |
| 13:58.38 | pb_ee1 | it's not exactly the same ui that I have, but looks a lot like |
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| 13:58.49 | syeren | pb_ee1, the icons are somewhat pointless ;) |
| 13:58.50 | Amadeo | cladhaire: What's your UI look like? |
| 13:58.54 | deltron | 3 person onyxia? |
| 13:59.18 | pb_ee1 | syeren, which icons? |
| 13:59.20 | cladhaire | Amadeo: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/25b45ae9ff9b614d2f16725698c6c230.png |
| 13:59.24 | cladhaire | I no longer use WIM tho |
| 13:59.27 | cladhaire | it was fun.. for a day |
| 13:59.31 | cladhaire | then i wanted to stab myself in the face |
| 13:59.36 | Amadeo | Wow, very basic |
| 13:59.39 | sag_ich_nicht | WIM is a POS, use telltrack, for heavens sake. |
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| 13:59.45 | cladhaire | yep, default ui ftw |
| 13:59.49 | syeren | The huge class icons ;p |
| 13:59.59 | deltron | heh |
| 14:00.09 | deltron | I use cellular for mine |
| 14:00.16 | cladhaire | also has Omen, MrPlow and a few others in there too |
| 14:00.27 | cladhaire | but those are hidden in the button bag |
| 14:00.28 | pb_ee1 | syeren: ho yeah, but i prefer to have it than nothing |
| 14:00.39 | Amadeo | cladhaire: What's the chat mod? |
| 14:00.52 | sag_ich_nicht | geez, i'd stab my eyes out if i had to use the default buff indicators D: |
| 14:00.52 | pb_ee1 | my computer is not very powerful so i use class icons instead of 3d portraits |
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| 14:00.59 | pb_ee1 | and i prefer that anyway |
| 14:01.03 | Amadeo | Not WIM, but the chatbox stuff |
| 14:01.08 | [Ammo] | Amadeo: my guess would be Mumble which is based off SCM, which is based of idChat :) |
| 14:01.18 | cladhaire | Amadeo: that's Mumble |
| 14:01.25 | Amadeo | That's what I was guessing, but I don't see the #'s |
| 14:01.30 | Amadeo | I use mumble :P |
| 14:01.31 | cladhaire | I remove them |
| 14:01.32 | cladhaire | i hates them |
| 14:01.37 | Amadeo | Gollum! |
| 14:01.48 | syeren | pb_ee1, Health Bar colors not enough for you ;)? |
| 14:02.03 | cladhaire | I really need to get writing Chapter 5.. so I can give myself some time to work on TomTom |
| 14:02.09 | pb_ee1 | syeren: they.... should :p |
| 14:02.30 | pb_ee1 | i suppose that i like to have something a bit more enhanced than bars on my screen ^^ |
| 14:02.52 | syeren | Only reason I use portraits are for sheep. |
| 14:02.53 | pb_ee1 | moreover cause i already only see bars in raid :p |
| 14:03.23 | pb_ee1 | well, you'd laugh if i tell you that i nearly _never_ use the portraits in raid |
| 14:03.27 | pb_ee1 | my eyes are glued to grid |
| 14:03.29 | Hjalte | Did they nerf the amount of rested exp you get or have i just begun playing more? |
| 14:04.18 | [Ammo] | you're not reating in the correct inns? |
| 14:04.38 | Hjalte | I am of course logging out in Inns and big cities :) |
| 14:04.45 | pb_ee1 | Hjalte: Orgrimmar's inns are not a proper place to rest if you are a night elf |
| 14:05.00 | [Ammo] | indeed you might wake up with a painful ass |
| 14:05.31 | Hjalte | I'm a cute little gnome warlock. |
| 14:05.39 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_080907_173334.png my interface, i forgot to turn off the R&J bossmod by RDX, so don't wonder why it's there |
| 14:06.05 | [Ammo] | argh the minimap button mess |
| 14:06.09 | syeren | http://www.fabrikate.org/store/WoWScrnShot_081607_145804.jpg is mine, just took the screenshot :P |
| 14:06.09 | deltron | hmm...loliserv eh |
| 14:06.20 | cladhaire | use the button bag |
| 14:06.37 | cladhaire | best addon evar |
| 14:07.04 | nevcairiel | use fubar |
| 14:07.04 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:07.12 | deltron | :P |
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| 14:07.25 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire wth is button ba |
| 14:07.27 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 14:07.27 | sag_ich_nicht | *bag |
| 14:07.47 | pb_ee1 | sag_ich_nicht: quoting [Ammo] -- "argh the minimap button mess" |
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| 14:07.56 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6764-MinimapButtonBag.html |
| 14:07.58 | pb_ee1 | syeren: what a... weird interface :p |
| 14:08.34 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire i love you. |
| 14:08.38 | cladhaire | lol |
| 14:08.43 | [Ammo] | get a room! :) |
| 14:08.46 | Stan__ | http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4525/wowscrnshot081507003547zy5.jpg |
| 14:08.47 | Stan__ | mine |
| 14:09.00 | Neebler | this is my craptacular UI I made in about 3 1/2 minutes http://neebler.tetro.net/ui.jpg |
| 14:09.23 | [Ammo] | typical rogue :) |
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| 14:09.28 | [Ammo] | hiding their party members in a far away corner |
| 14:09.45 | Neebler | all the buttons are cooldowns :P |
| 14:09.47 | syeren | Everyone calls my interface strange :/ |
| 14:09.51 | pb_ee1 | Stan__: what kind of ui is that? everything is in German! |
| 14:10.00 | Grum | Stan__: you added custom graphics or is that somthing like eepanels? |
| 14:10.00 | Stan__ | :( |
| 14:10.06 | Stan__ | Grum: eePanels |
| 14:10.27 | Grum | you can just configure it into that? |
| 14:10.33 | Stan__ | yup :) |
| 14:10.35 | deltron | Neebler: EavesDrop is ftw |
| 14:10.37 | Grum | that is ... awesome ... sigh .. more addon work to do this weekendddd |
| 14:10.47 | Grum | eavesdrop sucks configuration wise |
| 14:10.52 | pb_ee1 | Stan__: nice UI, but there are too much things on the screen for me |
| 14:10.53 | Grum | you can not decide *anything* about it |
| 14:11.18 | Stan__ | pb_ee1: what would you remove? |
| 14:11.48 | Neebler | I concur |
| 14:12.13 | deltron | my UI is cluttered |
| 14:12.20 | deltron | but I like to see a ton of information |
| 14:12.26 | Grum | mine as well .. but also RL .. so that kinda clutters your screen massively :) |
| 14:12.36 | sag_ich_nicht | geez |
| 14:12.41 | sag_ich_nicht | stan, stop using the deDE client |
| 14:12.43 | sag_ich_nicht | it is made of fail |
| 14:12.45 | sag_ich_nicht | srsly. |
| 14:12.48 | Stan__ | lol |
| 14:13.03 | pb_ee1 | Stan__: some scrolling combat text messages, but that's only my opinion. I am _never_ able to understand/read all the things that it produces, so I limit them to special actions (execute, ...), heals and damage received (but NOT made) |
| 14:13.17 | Stan__ | It's just I don't understand the quests texts when it's 5am and I'm drunk... |
| 14:13.26 | Amadeo | my ugly UI: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/07be209c66f92449f1c60dabb281998b.png |
| 14:13.28 | Amadeo | :P |
| 14:13.31 | sag_ich_nicht | get aloft, turn on floating combat text, win |
| 14:13.34 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 14:13.38 | sag_ich_nicht | *floating nameplates |
| 14:13.40 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed |
| 14:13.40 | syeren | Why the fuck do people enter BG in PVE gear? |
| 14:13.41 | syeren | WHY |
| 14:13.44 | sag_ich_nicht | then turn on damage@plates |
| 14:13.48 | winkiller | why not? |
| 14:13.53 | sag_ich_nicht | syeren because they don't have a PvP equip? |
| 14:13.59 | sag_ich_nicht | because they try to get a PvP equip? |
| 14:13.59 | winkiller | or forgot to equip |
| 14:14.10 | winkiller | there are many other things to go menta about :P |
| 14:14.14 | syeren | They're fucking useless. |
| 14:14.17 | syeren | It's so annoying. |
| 14:14.17 | pb_ee1 | Stan__: and i don't understand the meaning of all the bars at the bottom: healh, mana, (what?), (what?) :p |
| 14:14.20 | sag_ich_nicht | because it makes idiots like you go mental about it? |
| 14:14.29 | winkiller | pvp equip doesn't make that much of a diff... |
| 14:14.32 | xyu | i try to make my UI as minimalistic as possible but i always end up with crap on my screen |
| 14:14.37 | winkiller | I won arenas in tanking gear |
| 14:14.39 | Amadeo | winkiller: It does if you have tons of resil |
| 14:14.48 | Stan__ | pb_ee1: which bars? |
| 14:14.57 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:14] <winkiller> pvp equip doesn't make that much of a diff... <--LOL |
| 14:15.08 | sag_ich_nicht | in PvP equip you have tons of stamina and resilience more |
| 14:15.17 | syeren | !c eu Dentarg Ausmara |
| 14:15.20 | ThraeBot | syeren: Ausmara, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (28/33/0). 11241 HP; 8950 Mana; 167 mana regen; 57 mp5; 15 spell hit; 69 +spell dmg; 1237 +heal; 4.82% dodge; 472 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 807 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo72j5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/28tl5p ]] |
| 14:15.28 | syeren | Unbuffed :( |
| 14:15.52 | cryogen | disc/holy/shadow? |
| 14:15.58 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r46699 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: remove useless line |
| 14:16.25 | Grum | that is lolly/disc |
| 14:16.40 | pb_ee1 | Stan__: i don't understand what is "Arcadia", and why you have "Gedankenshinden VII" and "Vampiumarmung" at the same time. I think i've manage to see where health/mana is located |
| 14:16.43 | Killmore | !c us Ysera Killmore |
| 14:16.46 | ThraeBot | Killmore: Killmore, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (23/38/0). 8461 HP; 9825 Mana; 446 mana regen; 194 mp5; 148 +spell dmg; 1858 +heal; 6.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 782 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22ddvp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3brw67 ]] |
| 14:17.26 | pb_ee1 | Stan__: but it's one of the best UI's i've seen around here. dunno how it is behaving in raid, though |
| 14:17.28 | Stan__ | pb_ee1: arcade is target's target |
| 14:17.36 | Stan__ | arcádia |
| 14:17.42 | sag_ich_nicht | gosh, arcadia is the name of the char, duh |
| 14:17.44 | pb_ee1 | so your target is on the left? |
| 14:17.53 | Stan__ | no |
| 14:17.55 | Stan__ | wait |
| 14:17.57 | Stan__ | sec :P |
| 14:18.14 | pb_ee1 | i would say that you mainly solo and nearly never raid, just with your interface |
| 14:18.24 | pb_ee1 | I'm probably wrong too, but it doesn't seem you raid often :P |
| 14:19.13 | pb_ee1 | Amadeo: what is the addon that displays the players bar like on your UI |
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| 14:19.25 | pb_ee1 | +s ? * |
| 14:19.31 | alext | !c us Dark Iron Voln |
| 14:19.34 | ThraeBot | alext: Voln, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 11090 HP; 10585 Mana; 139 mana regen; 112 spell crit; 121 spell hit; 980 +spell dmg; 106 shadow dmg (1086); 5.07% dodge; 26 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 800 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ye99j ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2tnwez ]] |
| 14:20.39 | Stan__ | pb_ee1: http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/127/wowscrnshot081507003547ow1.jpg |
| 14:20.39 | Amadeo | why does everyone play a woman? :P |
| 14:20.39 | Grum | they lack attention irl |
| 14:20.39 | Hjalte | If I enslave a demon, and redo it too many times i understand it will become immune because of diminishing returns. But what if i fear it off for 15 seconds or more, can I then enslave it again with no less effect than before? |
| 14:20.39 | xyu | better to look at |
| 14:20.40 | Stan__ | Amadeo: do you wan't to see a man's ass for 70 levels? |
| 14:20.41 | syeren | I can't wait until Drain Mana and Drain Health get fucking fixed. |
| 14:20.43 | pb_ee1 | Amadeo, cause i prefer seeing a pair of breasts on my screen |
| 14:20.45 | syeren | Faggot Warlocks. |
| 14:21.08 | pb_ee1 | Amadeo, btw what is the addon that makes the player's bar/mana diplay like on your UI? |
| 14:21.09 | xyu | i believe the diminishing returns timer is 30 sec? |
| 14:21.10 | Amadeo | You actually turn the camera to look at your breasts? |
| 14:21.37 | mort|work | because i don't like men in robes.... |
| 14:21.46 | Amadeo | pb_ee1: The unit frames? Sage |
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| 14:22.16 | merlin| | !c us Nazjatar |
| 14:22.19 | syeren | Because Dwarf Males look like fucking idiotic faggots Amadeo. |
| 14:22.23 | merlin| | !c us Nazjatar Myrlin |
| 14:22.26 | ThraeBot | merlin|: Myrlin, Level 66 Draenei Mage (13/41/3). 6541 HP; 7310 Mana; 180 mana regen; 97 spell crit; 20 spell hit; 397 +spell dmg/heal; 4.77% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10); +2 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 603 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrfgk7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33uyrm ]] |
| 14:22.29 | sb | hmm nice borders Stan__ - what is it? :P |
| 14:22.30 | pb_ee1 | Amadeo: thanks, and no i don't turn my camera, but i prefer playing a woman instead of a man cause i'm more interested in women than men (basically chose like that) |
| 14:22.34 | Stan__ | pb_ee1: do you now understand my ui? |
| 14:22.38 | Amadeo | I don't like these excuses :P |
| 14:22.39 | Stan__ | sb: eepanels :) and thx |
| 14:22.46 | pb_ee1 | Stan__: yes, but what are the bars over your health? |
| 14:22.56 | Stan__ | pb_ee1: cooldowns |
| 14:23.04 | Stan__ | it's ClassTimers |
| 14:23.04 | sb | hmm - Stan__ - you can assign that border texture to every frame? |
| 14:23.15 | pb_ee1 | other thing, i find strange to have target's target under your portrait and not under the portrait of your target |
| 14:23.19 | Stan__ | sb: no..every border is a single panel |
| 14:23.24 | sb | hm |
| 14:23.24 | Grum | i think you make 'panels' onwhich you place your ui-elements |
| 14:23.30 | Grum | and just remove the borders from those uis etc |
| 14:23.33 | Grum | and make the background transparent |
| 14:23.37 | loonacy | Amadeo: They're in denial... it's because they identify more with being a woman, so their in-game identity is female. |
| 14:23.44 | Silviu- | Hmm my patch is already downloding, next week we get 2.2 ? ;) |
| 14:23.46 | Grum | and there for eavesdrop sucks because you can not decide anything about it :\ |
| 14:23.47 | sb | and how did your hide your other (damage meter, therat meter stuff) borders? :p |
| 14:23.50 | Amadeo | pb_ee1: That's my pet under my portrait |
| 14:23.59 | Stan__ | sb: same...eePanels |
| 14:24.05 | sb | oh.. okay |
| 14:24.06 | sb | :) |
| 14:24.06 | pb_ee1 | Amadeo: was talking to Stan__ |
| 14:24.09 | Amadeo | oh, haha |
| 14:24.23 | pb_ee1 | Amadeo, why don't you like these excuses btw? :p |
| 14:24.37 | Amadeo | I don't really believe that any guys plays a female character because they like to look at their ass |
| 14:24.44 | pb_ee1 | are you a this kind of player that thinks that men should play men and women should play women? |
| 14:24.49 | syeren | Amadeo, my excuse is Valid. |
| 14:24.53 | syeren | Dwalf Males look like morons. |
| 14:25.03 | Amadeo | syeren: but you play a Dwarf female, it's not like you're upgrading :P |
| 14:25.15 | syeren | Dwarf Females look better, and I have Helicopter hair. |
| 14:25.31 | syeren | Although I lose my helicopter hair once they fix my helm! |
| 14:25.33 | pb_ee1 | Amadeo, the main reason of playing a woman is that i've always played a guy in previous games and i wanted to change. And also, I think that a priest is more a female job than a man job in heroic fantasy games |
| 14:25.38 | Amadeo | pb_ee1: No, I don't care so much, but it's almost like the majority play women these days |
| 14:25.40 | Amadeo | and I'm curious |
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| 14:26.02 | Amadeo | It's almost like all men play women :P |
| 14:26.08 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 14:26.11 | mort|work | the female models are nicer, especially for casters |
| 14:26.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't |
| 14:26.24 | sag_ich_nicht | the only good female model for casters |
| 14:26.27 | sag_ich_nicht | is dwarf |
| 14:26.30 | tinyboom | sag_ich_nicht: what addon is making those buttons over the chatbox? :) |
| 14:26.32 | Amadeo | I bet there are more guys playing female chars in this channel than guys playing guys :P |
| 14:26.39 | sag_ich_nicht | because the casting animation is just too awesome |
| 14:26.42 | sag_ich_nicht | tinyboom chatbar |
| 14:26.48 | tinyboom | sag_ich_nicht thanks |
| 14:26.49 | sag_ich_nicht | part of cosmos |
| 14:26.52 | sag_ich_nicht | www.cosmosui.org |
| 14:26.56 | syeren | http://www.fabrikate.org/store/WoWScrnShot_081607_151903.jpg |
| 14:26.56 | tinyboom | irk |
| 14:27.01 | syeren | I'm pretty sure my Dwalf Female. |
| 14:27.04 | syeren | Looks awesome. |
| 14:27.12 | syeren | Better than if it was on a Dwalf Male. |
| 14:27.17 | Amadeo | I like Dwarf males :) |
| 14:27.24 | sag_ich_nicht | dwarf females are missing beards imho |
| 14:27.31 | Amadeo | I think it's because of the accent, though |
| 14:27.39 | Amadeo | They had beards in EQ :P |
| 14:28.08 | pb_ee1 | did they, Amadeo? |
| 14:28.13 | Amadeo | you could choose it, yep |
| 14:28.36 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 14:28.37 | yacoob | bards? :) |
| 14:28.49 | Amadeo | They had Bards in EQ also, but this is beards :P |
| 14:29.08 | syeren | I just want my helm fixed :( |
| 14:29.28 | winkiller | bard hero class |
| 14:29.41 | winkiller | guitar solo fo death |
| 14:29.52 | Amadeo | Bards were a cool EQ class |
| 14:29.59 | Amadeo | hard to play...but good Bards were amazing |
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| 14:36.30 | Grum | Amadeo: how can it be hard to play? :) |
| 14:36.48 | Amadeo | Bards in EQ? You had to spin songs |
| 14:37.01 | Grum | so just play? :D |
| 14:37.16 | Amadeo | The spells only lasted a number of seconds, and you had a lot of them that could overlap if you were pretty good at it |
| 14:37.25 | Amadeo | Most Bards were terrible |
| 14:37.29 | Amadeo | The good ones were amazing |
| 14:37.46 | Grum | basically having a nice spellcycle? ;D |
| 14:38.17 | Amadeo | they're like group buffs |
| 14:38.27 | Amadeo | that last maybe 10 seconds each time you cast one |
| 14:38.30 | Amadeo | but you can overlap them |
| 14:38.49 | Grum | wasn't it horribly annoying to play that class? |
| 14:38.53 | Amadeo | Yep |
| 14:39.00 | Amadeo | that's why I didn't play one :P |
| 14:39.12 | Grum | would be something for me though =D |
| 14:39.23 | Grum | at least you have to aim for perfection instead of .. getting it for free |
| 14:39.48 | Amadeo | There were macros available later on that let you spin songs without as much effort, but you couldn't rely on them for all situations |
| 14:39.58 | Amadeo | Bards had other songs to spin also, they weren't all buffs |
| 14:40.13 | Amadeo | so if you have macros spinning buff songs and you want to add something to attack in the cycle, you're going to break your macro cycle |
| 14:40.37 | Grum | how many different things could you do? that were used much? |
| 14:40.38 | Grum | 10? |
| 14:40.40 | Grum | 40? :D |
| 14:40.50 | Amadeo | Damn, I don't even remember |
| 14:40.52 | Amadeo | been years |
| 14:41.06 | Amadeo | but in EQ you could only have 8 spells on a bar at one time |
| 14:41.13 | Grum | ah well we have a bit many healing classes in wow tbh |
| 14:41.15 | Amadeo | so 8 max :) |
| 14:41.18 | Grum | 4 of em :\ |
| 14:42.01 | Amadeo | I wish I could take some classes from other games and bring them to WoW |
| 14:42.18 | Amadeo | Bards would be one of them, I also liked Monks from EQ, or Friars from Dark Age of Camelot |
| 14:42.26 | Grum | friars? :) |
| 14:42.38 | xyu | yuou liked friars? |
| 14:42.45 | Amadeo | Yeah, for uniquity |
| 14:42.51 | Grum | what kind of class was that? |
| 14:42.52 | xyu | the only thing that was cool about friars is people think they were wizards |
| 14:42.55 | Amadeo | They were like a cloth melee class |
| 14:42.57 | xyu | and then they'll come up and SMAHS your face in |
| 14:43.00 | xyu | smash* |
| 14:43.01 | sag_ich_nicht | you DARE mention the horrors of EQ that brought us 40 man raids and hybris pushed into healing? |
| 14:43.11 | xyu | 40 man raids? |
| 14:43.14 | xyu | wasn't it 72 man? |
| 14:43.15 | Grum | how is wow different? |
| 14:43.15 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 14:43.18 | Amadeo | EQ was like 120 man raids |
| 14:43.20 | pb_ee1 | even more xyu |
| 14:43.37 | Amadeo | I think we did Statue of Rallos Zek with 120 people :P |
| 14:43.57 | sag_ich_nicht | DAMN you and your foolish behaviour, you are going to summon the abbys if you continue to speak! |
| 14:44.06 | xyu | EQ was crappy because you could heal through the boss |
| 14:44.09 | xyu | and DPS through the tank |
| 14:44.10 | xyu | lol |
| 14:44.17 | Amadeo | Complete Heal, lol |
| 14:44.30 | Grum | 'heal through the boss' ? |
| 14:44.41 | xyu | yep, target the boss, and cast heal, it'll heal whatever he's targetting |
| 14:44.49 | Grum | lol |
| 14:44.51 | xyu | so you dont really need to ever pay attention |
| 14:44.51 | xyu | ever |
| 14:44.56 | xyu | you just hit complete heal |
| 14:44.56 | Grum | same as wow |
| 14:44.58 | xyu | and wait for your turn |
| 14:45.09 | Grum | lol |
| 14:45.14 | Grum | it actualyl chained the events itself? |
| 14:45.15 | sag_ich_nicht | /target Bossname |
| 14:45.22 | xyu | no |
| 14:45.28 | xyu | but what was the cast time on complete heal? |
| 14:45.30 | xyu | i forget |
| 14:45.31 | sag_ich_nicht | /cast [target=targettarget] Flash of Light |
| 14:45.38 | Grum | indeed sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:45.44 | Amadeo | it was a long cast time |
| 14:45.45 | sag_ich_nicht | oh noes i have just created EQ mechanics in a macro |
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| 14:45.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i am damning us all to hell with that |
| 14:45.54 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 14:46.01 | Amadeo | Complete Heal was too easy though |
| 14:46.17 | Amadeo | I played early EQ though, so stuff was different then |
| 14:46.25 | xyu | what was that place up in the clouds? it's a pvp zone. i forget |
| 14:46.34 | xyu | but one time this guy parachuted down into some raid that was up there |
| 14:46.39 | xyu | they almost had whatever boss it was down |
| 14:46.43 | xyu | but someone mind controlled the tank |
| 14:46.48 | xyu | and since everyone was DPS'ing through the tank |
| 14:46.52 | xyu | they all killed him instantly |
| 14:46.55 | xyu | and wiped |
| 14:47.02 | xyu | 1 man wiped likea 100 man raid |
| 14:47.34 | Amadeo | Plane of Sky? |
| 14:47.40 | xyu | maybe i dont know |
| 14:47.44 | xyu | i didn't play late EQ |
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| 14:47.52 | xyu | i was done at lvl cap 50 heh |
| 14:47.52 | Amadeo | Sky was pretty early on |
| 14:47.56 | Amadeo | me too |
| 14:47.59 | Amadeo | no wait |
| 14:48.03 | Amadeo | I think I did 60 |
| 14:48.07 | Amadeo | I quit when SOE took over |
| 14:48.14 | Grum | SOE? |
| 14:48.20 | Amadeo | Sony Online Entertainment |
| 14:48.24 | Grum | oh |
| 14:48.34 | Pkekyo | !ar 1500 |
| 14:48.34 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 14:48.40 | Pkekyo | !ap 1550 |
| 14:48.41 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena points from a rating of 1550 is, 2v2: 302, 3v3: 345, 5v5: 432 |
| 14:48.43 | Amadeo | There were big time pathing issues in EQ |
| 14:48.49 | Amadeo | you could aggro through ceilings and stuff |
| 14:48.54 | xyu | hehe |
| 14:48.56 | Grum | hmm just a quick question, how can you force something to be 'right on top' with still being able to click it with the mouse |
| 14:48.57 | xyu | unrest |
| 14:49.08 | Grum | i'm having troubles seeing my 'ColorPickerFrame' because it ends up below Cartographer |
| 14:49.09 | Amadeo | everyone waiting on the wall in Plane of Hate, and the entire top floor aggros and everyone dies |
| 14:49.32 | Grum | and i can prolly do something like: ColorPicketFrame:GoLieOnTopBastard() |
| 14:50.11 | pb_ee1 | Grum: try adding an "s" to Bastard |
| 14:50.19 | Grum | but seriously :( |
| 14:50.38 | Grum | any keywords i can look for? |
| 14:50.41 | Grum | not getting much further :P |
| 14:50.53 | pb_ee1 | You'd like to put it on top? |
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| 14:51.00 | pb_ee1 | You must change the Strat of the frame then |
| 14:51.03 | pb_ee1 | Strata * |
| 14:51.04 | Pkekyo | !ar 600 |
| 14:51.05 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena rating from 600 points is, 2v2: 1872, 3v3: 1792, 5v5: 1683 |
| 14:51.12 | pb_ee1 | !ar 156851 |
| 14:51.12 | ThraeBot | pb_ee1: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 14:51.27 | pb_ee1 | ThraeBot, you're not cool :( |
| 14:51.39 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r46700 10YssGuildShop/YGS_GUI.lua: |
| 14:51.39 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 14:51.39 | CIA-14 | - Now able to retrieve item data from server instead of only from the local cache |
| 14:51.53 | sag_ich_nicht | afk driving home |
| 14:51.55 | Grum | pb_ee1: ah thanks :) |
| 14:52.06 | pb_ee1 | Hope you'll find what you want |
| 14:52.13 | Grum | pb_ee1: yeah the colorpickerframe has to get allll the way on top |
| 14:52.28 | nevcairiel | you can heal through the boss or dps through the tank just easily |
| 14:52.29 | Grum | but that probably depends on how 'high' the cartographer's framestata is |
| 14:52.31 | nevcairiel | get some macros =P |
| 14:52.42 | Grum | but generally - that is a bad practice :) |
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| 14:52.59 | xyu | when wow gets complete heal though |
| 14:53.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ...just use EditingUI to move it up |
| 14:53.02 | xyu | i'll resign |
| 14:53.15 | pb_ee1 | Grum: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetFrameLevel |
| 14:53.25 | Grum | oe thanks :) |
| 14:53.28 | pb_ee1 | And obviously: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetFrameStrata |
| 14:53.49 | pb_ee1 | SetFrameLevel lets you change the overlapping of frames when they are in the same strata i think |
| 14:53.50 | Grum | oh then i have to look up what the WorldFrameButton is at so it seems |
| 14:54.00 | Grum | and then put the colorpicker at atleast the same level |
| 14:54.07 | Grum | +1 =) |
| 14:54.49 | Grum | hmm lets find what Cartographer puts the worldmap at |
| 14:54.56 | pb_ee1 | yup, same strata but higher level |
| 14:55.14 | pb_ee1 | Stratas: http://www.wowwiki.com/FrameStrata |
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| 14:55.56 | Grum | hmm it prolly also has a GetFrameStata |
| 14:56.42 | Grum | so i can just do: ColorPickerFrame:SetFrameStrata( WorldMapButton:GetFrameStrata() ); ColorPickerFrame:SetFrameLevel( WorldMapButton:GetFrameLeve() + 1); |
| 14:56.46 | Grum | :) |
| 14:56.58 | Grum | +l :\ |
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| 15:01.19 | pb_ee1 | Grum: should do it |
| 15:01.38 | Grum | hmmm seems i have to tug WorldMapFrame though :) |
| 15:02.15 | pb_ee1 | tug? |
| 15:02.22 | Grum | oh it seems the maximum height the strata will be is FULLSCREEN .. so i can still set it at FULLSCREEN_DIALOG |
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| 15:02.45 | Grum | atleast that is what i read from the Looknfeel module in Cartographer |
| 15:02.53 | pb_ee1 | Yes, but be carefull not to set it to TOOLTIP or mouse events will not be catch anymore |
| 15:02.59 | Grum | yeah hehe |
| 15:03.04 | Grum | luckily you have /script then ;D |
| 15:06.34 | CIA-14 | 03candykiss * r46701 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: add zhCN localization |
| 15:07.28 | CIA-14 | 03candykiss * r46702 10RatingBuster/ (RatingBuster-Locale-zhCN.lua RatingBuster.toc): RatingBuster: add zhCN localization |
| 15:12.16 | odt | !c eu Al'Akir Odt |
| 15:12.19 | ThraeBot | odt: Odt, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (41/20/0). 8607 HP; 9843 Mana; 180 mana regen; 99 mp5; 15816 Armour; 72.5 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 98 spell crit; 167 +spell dmg; 1760 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5% block; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 671 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ys3uog ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ndktf ]] |
| 15:13.20 | Cryect | Grum: you need more than +1 for framelevel |
| 15:13.30 | alext | !c us Dark Iron Antibody |
| 15:13.33 | ThraeBot | alext: Antibody, Level 70 Gnome Mage (10/48/3). 6713 HP; 8561 Mana; 142 mana regen; 228 spell crit; 131 spell hit; 720 +spell dmg; 172 arcane dmg (892); 172 fire dmg (892); 5.34% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 679 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/285pvf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2td226 ]] |
| 15:13.36 | Cryect | also you have to change the framelevel of all children frames individually |
| 15:14.30 | Grum | Cryect: oh you gotto be kidding me? |
| 15:15.08 | Silviu- | !c eu gorgonnash Ballfire |
| 15:15.11 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Ballfire, Level 70 Undead Warlock (37/3/21). 11260 HP; 7720 Mana; 107 mana regen; 187 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 841 +spell dmg/heal; 51 shadow dmg (892); 4.28% dodge; 309 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 795 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2aatw3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vz62r ]] |
| 15:15.14 | Cryect | Nope, have to set um something to recurse |
| 15:15.20 | Grum | but if i know the maximum framestrata of the WorldMapFrame if 'FULLSCREEN' then i can just put it at 'FULLSCREEN_DIALOG' right? |
| 15:15.36 | Grum | so i dont have to be bothered changing all manually |
| 15:15.57 | Cryect | Strata don't recurse either |
| 15:16.08 | Cryect | unless you set the frame strata before creating the childrne |
| 15:16.22 | Silviu- | !c eu gorgonnash Littleone |
| 15:16.25 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Littleone, Level 70 Human Warlock (41/0/20). 11350 HP; 9130 Mana; 161 mana regen; 163 spell crit; 156 spell hit; 1166 +spell dmg; 110 shadow dmg (1276); 5.07% dodge; 42 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 819 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2apwna ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/362ms9 ]] |
| 15:16.35 | Grum | man, is there any easy way to see the color-picker when i have Cartographer open? |
| 15:16.50 | Grum | hmm i could close cartographer . :\ |
| 15:16.55 | Grum | but that is rather user unfriendly :/ |
| 15:17.20 | Mikk | Make Carto smaller :S |
| 15:18.10 | Cryect | yeah scaling luckily does effect all children :-p |
| 15:18.19 | Grum | also not really userfriendly :/ |
| 15:18.30 | Mikk | Well, more to the point, makign it smaller makes it jump down to a lower strata these days |
| 15:18.34 | Mikk | And no it's not user friendly |
| 15:19.55 | Cryect | aH |
| 15:20.34 | Grum | Mikk: lol ! i actually wondered wtf was happening hehe |
| 15:20.47 | Mikk | well, big windows should be fullscreen |
| 15:20.49 | Mikk | small windows should not |
| 15:20.56 | Grum | trueish |
| 15:21.00 | charon | hmm... suddenly, one of my mods displays messages along the lines of "Your <some poison> was removed by Anmoch's Abolish Poison" in a big, ugly frame right at the center of the screen. anyone have an idea which one that might be? or if some mod was changed last night to this effect? |
| 15:21.11 | Mikk | yeah i know, it's a bit ugleh :> |
| 15:21.19 | Mikk | but the net result is better for the majority of users i do think |
| 15:21.36 | Grum | yeah |
| 15:21.39 | Mikk | especially when you start toying with alt+M (switching to alternative profile) |
| 15:21.41 | Cryect | yeah should only be at FULLSCREEN Strate if fullscreen |
| 15:21.43 | Mikk | where one profile is a big effin window |
| 15:21.54 | Mikk | and the other profile is a half transparent window at one corner of your screen |
| 15:22.00 | Mikk | when you have that, you want bags to open on top of carto, etc |
| 15:22.16 | Grum | but you do change all the childs as well from the frame? |
| 15:22.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: "big windows should be fullscreen, small windows should not" is a fascinatingly windows viewpoint. |
| 15:22.27 | NightHawkTheSane | and with that, I'm off to work. |
| 15:22.48 | Mikk | It's a viewpoint that is compatible with how the rest of framexml works |
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| 15:23.14 | Cryect | heh |
| 15:24.17 | Grum | ah well i hope i can make it work without much trouble :/ |
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| 15:28.36 | Pkekyo | http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2007/08/16/509038.html lmfao, look what plant is growing at the bus stop O.o |
| 15:29.08 | Pkekyo | 2-300 metres from the sherrif's office :> |
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| 15:42.51 | charon | hmm. is one of the prat authors around? IMO you should rethink the defaults of PopupMessage |
| 15:43.20 | charon | or maybe i had some leftover settings |
| 15:44.08 | Pkekyo | !ar 1379 |
| 15:44.08 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena rating from 1379 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 0, 5v5: 2636 |
| 15:44.25 | alb | what |
| 15:44.42 | Pkekyo | O.o no points? |
| 15:44.57 | Pkekyo | !ap 1379 |
| 15:44.57 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena points from a rating of 1379 is, 2v2: 231, 3v3: 264, 5v5: 330 |
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| 15:48.27 | Silviu- | !ap 1900 |
| 15:48.27 | ThraeBot | Silviu-: Arena points from a rating of 1900 is, 2v2: 626, 3v3: 715, 5v5: 894 |
| 15:49.14 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: I like the video on that page |
| 15:49.27 | Amadeo | "Look at me, do I look like a duct tape bandit, baby? I ain't no duct tape bandit!" |
| 15:50.46 | Pkekyo | !ap 1500 |
| 15:50.46 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 263, 3v3: 300, 5v5: 376 |
| 15:52.42 | sylvanaar | charon you need to disable popups for you combat log frame i suspect |
| 15:53.57 | charon | sylvanaar: yes, that was indeed the problem ... strangely enough they were only enabled for that frame. if that's the default, it seems a bit counter-intuitive since it will only trigger on very few messages |
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| 15:54.24 | sylvanaar | it isnt |
| 15:54.25 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07refactor * r46703 10Ace2/: .All your Ace2 refactoring belongs to us |
| 15:54.38 | charon | either way i don't recall enabling it lately, nor playing drunk |
| 15:54.42 | charon | ;) |
| 15:55.38 | sylvanaar | the default is off on all frames |
| 15:58.22 | Pkekyo | !ap 1409 |
| 15:58.23 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena points from a rating of 1409 is, 2v2: 238, 3v3: 273, 5v5: 341 |
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| 16:23.32 | Fisker- | I AM GOING TO COME |
| 16:23.38 | Fisker- | bioshock on steam :O |
| 16:24.13 | sylvanaar | what? |
| 16:25.39 | Srosh | Steam is evil. |
| 16:26.16 | Fisker- | no u |
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| 16:28.27 | Kyahx | Why would you download Bioshock on Steam, when Bioshock is also on isohunt? :P |
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| 16:28.58 | Kyahx | (Granted I'm going to buy the 360 version, so I couldn't care either way) |
| 16:29.24 | durcyn | eek, fps on a console? |
| 16:29.34 | Kyahx | *shrug* |
| 16:29.46 | Kyahx | I don't think my PC could handle it |
| 16:29.54 | Kyahx | atleast not as well as my 360 could |
| 16:33.47 | Pkekyo | new games on steam? imba! |
| 16:34.08 | Pkekyo | 54$? kinda stiff, ain't it? |
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| 16:35.30 | sylvanaar | special ed jade empire? |
| 16:35.31 | CIA-14 | 03mikk 07refactor * r46704 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: |
| 16:35.31 | CIA-14 | Ace2 - AceLibrary: |
| 16:35.31 | CIA-14 | - Shrink from 25KB to 4KB |
| 16:35.31 | CIA-14 | - Use Mikk's in-place library replacement scheme |
| 16:35.31 | CIA-14 | - Remove user-friendly errors. Keep asserts for things that would break global structure. |
| 16:35.32 | CIA-14 | - Remove possibility to request a certain minor rev (which never really worked anyway) |
| 16:35.34 | CIA-14 | - Mixin functionality currently gone AWOL. Will be put back using non-AceOO |
| 16:35.38 | Pkekyo | 22 computer games for 69.95$ O.o |
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| 16:37.14 | sylvanaar | jade empire is still in my xbox from when i bought the game |
| 16:37.26 | sylvanaar | in 2005 |
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| 16:38.04 | Wobin_ | still in your xbox, or still in the box? |
| 16:38.13 | CIA-14 | 03anxarces * r46705 10ProfessionsBook/ (8 files): |
| 16:38.13 | CIA-14 | ProfessionsBook |
| 16:38.13 | CIA-14 | -Added option to disable color coding in the auction house |
| 16:38.13 | CIA-14 | -Added option to disable tooltip enhancements |
| 16:38.17 | sylvanaar | in my xbox - i was playing wow |
| 16:38.39 | Wobin_ | ie, it's still a good game? |
| 16:38.52 | Coruss | as in, he hasn't touched his xbox since he started playing WoW |
| 16:38.57 | Wobin_ | oh =) |
| 16:38.57 | sylvanaar | ^^ |
| 16:39.26 | sylvanaar | now i play ps2 games on occasion |
| 16:41.27 | Coruss | I play ps1/snes games when I need a break |
| 16:41.38 | Coruss | games back then were short enough you could take a day off and beat one of em |
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| 16:44.55 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07refactor * r46706 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: |
| 16:44.55 | CIA-14 | Ace2 - AceEvent: |
| 16:44.55 | CIA-14 | - Remove LOOT_OPENED ninja SendAddonMessage |
| 16:44.55 | CIA-14 | - Remove UNIT_* unit validation for bucket events |
| 16:44.55 | CIA-14 | - Remove event throttling from regular events that got replaced ages ago by bucketevents |
| 16:44.56 | CIA-14 | - Remove combat schedules |
| 16:44.58 | CIA-14 | - Remove tableid compat code |
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| 16:48.07 | Gnarfoz | wow, major refactoring going on with base ace2? |
| 16:49.11 | Killmore | :| |
| 16:49.38 | Pkekyo | anyone know how Valve was gonna release HL2: Ep. Two? different boxes etc? |
| 16:49.52 | Amadeo | I thought just one box, comes with original HL2 |
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| 16:50.44 | baer_ | hi |
| 16:50.53 | baer_ | is there some pizza time addon available? :) |
| 16:51.05 | baer_ | my pizza went pretty black... AGAIN! |
| 16:51.23 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: one box. |
| 16:51.26 | Punkie` | go buy an egg timer |
| 16:52.03 | sylvanaar | can anyone suggest a spec for my test server pally |
| 16:52.03 | baer_ | Punkie`, way tooo expensive. |
| 16:52.03 | Coruss | sylvanaar: holy? or prot? |
| 16:52.03 | Punkie` | like 1 euro? |
| 16:52.03 | kenlyric | you can sell the original one though. |
| 16:52.06 | Mudkips | sylvanaar, RETRIBUTION |
| 16:52.11 | Mudkips | lulz |
| 16:52.16 | sylvanaar | ^.^ |
| 16:52.24 | kenlyric | errr, the hl2 registration. |
| 16:52.38 | sylvanaar | ok so thats all 3 trees |
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| 16:52.59 | Amadeo | sylvanaar: Holy works the best on PTR, they don't have the best gear for the other stuff |
| 16:53.07 | Amadeo | just don't expect to do any damage, lol |
| 16:53.12 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 16:53.21 | Amadeo | You can probably do a bit of Prot |
| 16:53.27 | Amadeo | but I wasn't happy with Ret there |
| 16:53.32 | Amadeo | not that I'm a Paladin by nature :P |
| 16:53.50 | Coruss | the only changes that came to ret were pvp nerfs and a slight buff to seal of vengeance |
| 16:54.09 | Amadeo | Blizzard said at BlizzCon that Retribution changes were coming |
| 16:54.10 | Coruss | and 2.2 was supposed to be the 'we're fixing ret' patch |
| 16:54.17 | sylvanaar | you mean this shitload of gear doesnt have any good ret gear |
| 16:54.19 | Amadeo | probably by expansion |
| 16:54.19 | Coruss | ya, they've said it for awhile |
| 16:54.42 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: the priests have crappy shadow gear too. |
| 16:54.44 | Amadeo | sylvanaar: I dunno, maybe...I just felt weak using it |
| 16:54.46 | kenlyric | it's great disc gear though. |
| 16:55.04 | kenlyric | 820 damage in t6 level gear. gtfo |
| 16:55.11 | sylvanaar | its the arena sets and tier |
| 16:55.21 | Amadeo | Paladins do come with the most gear that I've seen |
| 16:55.27 | Amadeo | Warrior has the least I've seen, so far |
| 16:55.53 | sylvanaar | i mean 4 different violet signets alone |
| 16:56.08 | NeoTron | attempted solarian last night for the first time, without AR tank |
| 16:56.08 | Amadeo | sylvanaar: The good thing is you have like 5000 gold, so try em all :) |
| 16:56.12 | NeoTron | ppl got.. confused |
| 16:56.28 | sylvanaar | dont need money |
| 16:56.39 | Coruss | sylvanaar: its because the pally can use almost every stat in the game |
| 16:57.17 | sylvanaar | gawd i have no idea how to gear this guy |
| 16:57.45 | Coruss | what spec? |
| 16:58.02 | sylvanaar | i dont know i want to do something besides spam fol |
| 16:58.08 | Coruss | lol |
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| 16:58.34 | Coruss | playing a pally no matter what spec is really about spamming a small subset of abilities |
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| 16:59.05 | Coruss | holy, FoL, HL, 100% crit button, bubbles |
| 16:59.27 | sylvanaar | so what spec can i be if i want to do damage |
| 16:59.42 | NeoTron | Retribution in theory. >:-) |
| 16:59.42 | Coruss | prot: holy shield, SoR, judgement, righteous defense, shield thingy |
| 16:59.44 | Coruss | ret lol |
| 16:59.48 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 16:59.49 | sylvanaar | ok |
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| 16:59.56 | Coruss | the premades get hammer of the naaru right? |
| 16:59.59 | NeoTron | although when I switched to holy I did the same dps and last longer between drinking |
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| 17:00.07 | sylvanaar | they have like 10 hammers |
| 17:00.19 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 17:00.20 | NeoTron | prot is good if you can AoE-tank |
| 17:00.27 | NeoTron | AoE-grind I mean |
| 17:00.31 | Coruss | lol, well hammer of the naaru is like 110-120 dps big giant ret hammer |
| 17:00.35 | NeoTron | but pretty crap on single target dps |
| 17:00.39 | Coruss | it's the purple one from the BC cutscene |
| 17:00.43 | Pkekyo | meh, I've run out of movies...AGAIN >.< |
| 17:00.50 | Coruss | ret is only good for single target burst damage |
| 17:01.13 | sylvanaar | ok - so is there a viable prot/ret spec? |
| 17:01.14 | Coruss | stun -> judge command, -> crusader strike, reseal, continue |
| 17:01.16 | Mudkips | I"m so excited for these JC only gems http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/kamikashi/?action=view¤t=newgems.jpg |
| 17:01.22 | Mudkips | 2.2 wher are you! |
| 17:01.54 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07refactor * r46707 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: |
| 17:01.54 | CIA-14 | Ace2 - AceEvent: |
| 17:01.54 | CIA-14 | - Remove remnants of (un)registering all events |
| 17:02.02 | kenlyric | thos are some pretty crazy gem stats for such low rep requirements. |
| 17:02.22 | Coruss | still have to get the source gems |
| 17:02.26 | kenlyric | and no mp5? |
| 17:02.36 | kenlyric | yeah, but it's the same source gem as the rare cut gems. |
| 17:02.40 | Cryect | well they are BOP |
| 17:02.47 | kenlyric | those patterns should be exalted, like all the enchanting ones. |
| 17:03.02 | Coruss | BoP gems |
| 17:03.06 | Coruss | enchants are not BoP |
| 17:03.09 | Amadeo | bleh, eBay redesigned their site, it's impossible to find anything now because the categories are screwed up |
| 17:03.09 | Cryect | the tailoring patterns don't require any rep :-p |
| 17:03.22 | Cryect | some enchants are self only |
| 17:03.24 | Cryect | like ring enchants |
| 17:03.26 | sylvanaar | redoubt or imp devo? |
| 17:03.29 | Cryect | and well thats it :-p |
| 17:03.36 | Wobin_ | Isn't Don Julio's Heart a merchant gem from halaa? |
| 17:03.49 | NeoTron | those gems is finally a reason for someone to actually have and keep JC |
| 17:04.10 | Coruss | sylvanaar: really, both are useless |
| 17:04.14 | Coruss | for ret at least |
| 17:04.21 | NeoTron | interesting note btw - I put a BoP heroic drop gem into a BoE item and the BoE item ddin't bind to me |
| 17:04.32 | CIA-14 | 03anxarces * r46708 10ProfessionsBook/ (ProfessionsBook.lua ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt): |
| 17:04.32 | CIA-14 | ProfessionsBook |
| 17:04.32 | CIA-14 | -"hooksecurefunction" error fixed |
| 17:04.38 | Coruss | NeoTron: probly a bug |
| 17:04.40 | sylvanaar | thats what i was thinking , but which is less useless |
| 17:04.50 | NeoTron | it can hardly be intended |
| 17:04.50 | Coruss | lol, divine int and divine strength in holy |
| 17:05.23 | Coruss | just hold on a sec and let me find the ret pally in my guild's armory |
| 17:05.59 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07refactor * r46709 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: |
| 17:05.59 | CIA-14 | Ace2 - AceEvent: |
| 17:05.59 | CIA-14 | - Restore some code that should not have been removed |
| 17:06.01 | Coruss | hrmm looks like he's using a hybrid ret arena/bg spec |
| 17:06.07 | Coruss | !c us Silver Hand Terragg |
| 17:06.10 | ThraeBot | Coruss: Terragg, Level 70 Human Paladin (11/0/50). 8347 HP; 6853 Mana; 86 mana regen; 8275 Armour; 1322 AP; 203 Melee DPS; 22.34% melee crit; 63 melee hit; 32 spell crit; 157 +spell dmg/heal; 46 defense; 7.8% dodge; 5.76% block; 43 resilience;[[ TBR: 1630 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hdm9n ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y72x9 ]] |
| 17:06.25 | sylvanaar | 11/0/50? |
| 17:06.34 | Coruss | it's a bg/arena hybrid |
| 17:06.58 | sylvanaar | i was going to go for 7 prot, is that not a good idea |
| 17:07.19 | Coruss | what are you specing ret for, pve or pvp |
| 17:07.32 | sylvanaar | test server, idk - for fun |
| 17:07.39 | Coruss | lol ok, so hybrid |
| 17:07.42 | sylvanaar | its the pve server |
| 17:07.49 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46710 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua Recount.lua Sync.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 17:07.49 | CIA-14 | Recount - Adds an option for autochanging between Current Fight and Last Fight based on entering/leaving combat |
| 17:07.49 | CIA-14 | - Realtime Graphs for DPS no longer track friendly damage |
| 17:07.53 | Coruss | if you're going prot, get imp devo |
| 17:08.06 | Coruss | as ret you'll be using a 2hander, redoubt is useless without a shield |
| 17:08.31 | sylvanaar | oh, good point |
| 17:08.50 | Coruss | if you're going ret/prot that is |
| 17:09.32 | sylvanaar | well, i just wanted the shorter cooldown on bop |
| 17:09.42 | Coruss | ya |
| 17:09.58 | Coruss | it's good, but it's usually in an arena or holy/prot build |
| 17:10.04 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 17:10.22 | Coruss | since really, it's the 'oh shit, the stupid mage pulled agg on 6 mobs' button |
| 17:11.42 | Coruss | it's also useful in arenas for countering mages who like to spellsteal your bubble |
| 17:11.58 | Coruss | since spellstealing the blessing takes forbearance with it |
| 17:12.05 | Coruss | you can then freely pop your other bubble |
| 17:13.39 | Silowyi | you can spellsteal bop, but you can't spellsteal divine shield. |
| 17:14.02 | Silowyi | it can be mass dispelled though. |
| 17:14.11 | Coruss | I thought they could steal divine shield |
| 17:14.15 | Silowyi | nope |
| 17:14.31 | Coruss | hmm, guess I need to do more arena then :) |
| 17:14.43 | Silowyi | good lord, mages have PLENTY of tools for destroying paladins that would make things a bit imba. |
| 17:14.51 | Cryect | Divine Shield could be spellstolen if done at the right time |
| 17:14.56 | Cryect | Not sure if they ever fixed it or not |
| 17:15.03 | Silowyi | one counterspell is usually enough to make a paladin have a very bad day. |
| 17:15.04 | Coruss | counterspell and spell steal alone do plenty |
| 17:15.06 | Cryect | but there was a few screenshots of mages spellstealing Divine Shield |
| 17:15.17 | Cryect | you had to spellsteal right as they casted it |
| 17:15.23 | Coruss | Silowyi: whats the duration on counterspell again? |
| 17:15.36 | Silowyi | 10 sec spell school lockout |
| 17:15.43 | Cryect | the pally would gain the buff before the immunity for some reason :-p |
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| 17:16.07 | Coruss | Silowyi: thanks... well improved conc aura would help that a bit |
| 17:16.31 | Coruss | but by and large its an 'I win' button vs pallies |
| 17:16.36 | Silowyi | yup |
| 17:16.47 | Coruss | as is rogue kick, shield bash, etc |
| 17:17.00 | Coruss | since all pally spells are holy |
| 17:17.05 | Coruss | it's a complete lockout |
| 17:17.14 | Silowyi | paladins at the higher levels in arena are generally good at juking the CS/kick |
| 17:17.25 | Silowyi | well |
| 17:17.32 | Silowyi | it does not stop you from casting holy shock ;) |
| 17:17.42 | Coruss | hmm? |
| 17:17.55 | Silowyi | holy shock for some reason isn't locked out with the other holy spells. |
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| 17:18.08 | Coruss | thats very odd... almost sounds like a bug or oversight |
| 17:18.15 | Silowyi | probably a bug but its saved my life several times |
| 17:18.23 | Coruss | I bet |
| 17:18.51 | Coruss | gah... trying to figure out where to put the last point in my 70 holy build |
| 17:18.52 | Silowyi | Well the mob version of holy shock is physical damag |
| 17:19.04 | Silowyi | so at some point the paladin version probably got put in the wrong school. |
| 17:19.10 | Coruss | ya |
| 17:19.12 | Coruss | oversight |
| 17:19.45 | kenlyric | like when holy fire used to do fire damage. |
| 17:19.51 | Coruss | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=aVubgzheotVMpc0c |
| 17:20.01 | Coruss | any ideas on the last point? |
| 17:20.08 | kenlyric | for level 21? |
| 17:20.22 | Coruss | hmm? |
| 17:20.30 | kenlyric | did you forget to hit link to this build? |
| 17:20.41 | Coruss | gah |
| 17:20.48 | Coruss | broken, must've mis typed it |
| 17:21.11 | Silowyi | oh right, I was restarting for an install, brb... |
| 17:21.16 | Coruss | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=aVxubgzheotVMpc0c |
| 17:21.26 | Coruss | missed a character |
| 17:22.01 | Coruss | I'm thinkin pure of heart, or blessed ife |
| 17:22.03 | Coruss | *life |
| 17:22.03 | kenlyric | purifying power |
| 17:22.43 | Coruss | eh... 5% on cleanse isn't that much |
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| 17:23.12 | Coruss | 36 mana per cast |
| 17:23.39 | kenlyric | what's this build for? |
| 17:23.39 | Coruss | assuming a 12k mana pool |
| 17:23.44 | Coruss | raiding |
| 17:23.50 | Coruss | and some arena |
| 17:23.53 | kenlyric | ah. |
| 17:24.05 | kenlyric | was wondering if you tank a lot in raids with your holy build :) |
| 17:24.09 | CIA-14 | 03mikk 07refactor * r46711 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: |
| 17:24.09 | CIA-14 | Ace2 - AceLibrary: |
| 17:24.09 | CIA-14 | - Add AceLibrary:RegisterExports - to be used by mixins |
| 17:24.22 | Coruss | lol, nope, but redoubt is more useful to me than devo |
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| 17:24.45 | Coruss | since I always have a shield out, and conc aura whenever I'm not using a resist |
| 17:25.49 | Coruss | I like blessed life tho, since its a raw chance for me to take 50% damage on any attack |
| 17:26.14 | kenlyric | how about stoicism? |
| 17:26.35 | Coruss | was looking at it, but it's more arena oriented |
| 17:27.22 | sylvanaar | oh i have deep thunder |
| 17:27.37 | Coruss | stun is anti rogue, and the dispel resist is for priest mass dispel |
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| 17:28.07 | Coruss | I think it's really a toss up between purifying power and blessed life |
| 17:28.14 | Coruss | but which will give me more benefit |
| 17:28.38 | Coruss | purifying power it is |
| 17:28.47 | Coruss | ideally, I'll do more cleansing than I will taking hits |
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| 17:39.04 | Azurewrath | mhm.. short Question: is Recount syncing atm? |
| 17:43.53 | Cryect | yes |
| 17:44.01 | CIA-14 | 03pettigrow * r46712 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: frFR Update |
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| 17:45.03 | sylvanaar | hrm, ok - i cant kill anything |
| 17:45.25 | sylvanaar | i ran out of mana |
| 17:45.48 | Kyahx | use something other than moonfire :P |
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| 17:47.54 | Cryect | So anyone know where curse hangs out on irc now? Wanted to ask kody/zinor something |
| 17:48.22 | snurre | #mym.wow i think |
| 17:48.35 | sylvanaar | moonfire is the best |
| 17:49.23 | sylvanaar | innervate+moonfire spam |
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| 17:50.43 | Cryect | haha okay I'm blind |
| 17:50.49 | NightHawkAtWork | :D |
| 17:50.56 | CIA-14 | 03pettigrow * r46713 10BigWigs/ (9 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 17:51.09 | Cryect | I see why because he is voiced |
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| 17:51.36 | xyu | grrrrrr for some damn reason my escape key keeps getting "unbound" on only one of my chars and only sometimes. |
| 17:51.40 | Tupsi | Cryect : rangecheck and tagcompiler libs are missing in current relog |
| 17:51.44 | xyu | it's so annoying |
| 17:51.52 | Cryect | All libraries are missing in current relog ;) |
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| 17:53.42 | Tupsi | ohh ok :-) |
| 17:53.57 | Tupsi | well there is an embeded.xml referincing some of them |
| 17:54.05 | Cryect | there is? haha |
| 17:54.16 | Tupsi | yes |
| 17:54.18 | Cryect | must be copied and pasted from recount |
| 17:54.34 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r46714 10CraftList2/localization.lua: |
| 17:54.34 | CIA-14 | CraftList2: |
| 17:54.34 | CIA-14 | - frFR fix |
| 17:54.53 | Cryect | thats strange I don't see an embeds.xml |
| 17:55.34 | Cryect | your sure you see one considering my svn version isn't showing one? |
| 17:57.10 | Tupsi | well i clicked on relog on wau let it install |
| 17:57.24 | Tupsi | but let me check, not that i was looking in a different addon dir :-) |
| 17:57.37 | Tupsi | lol ok |
| 17:57.40 | Tupsi | i was in recount |
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| 18:02.33 | kergoth | what's an addon that can move the stupid pvp objectives frame? |
| 18:03.10 | Cryect | haha that would do it Tupsi |
| 18:04.32 | Tupsi | so sorry to bother you |
| 18:04.40 | dodga | kergoth: The only that did it for me was simpleMinimap after it was fixed |
| 18:04.43 | Tupsi | ill try to figure out tonight what your thing wants to do .-) |
| 18:05.05 | Cryect | yeah I should setup an embeds, didn't yet since was changing what libraries I was using a lot at first |
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| 18:12.41 | CIA-14 | 03speeddymon * r46715 10CooldownTimers2/Options.lua: |
| 18:12.41 | CIA-14 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 18:12.41 | CIA-14 | - Fixed GUI announce lock option to actually lock and hide the announce frame |
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| 18:24.00 | CIA-14 | 03crowleyaj * r46716 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: |
| 18:24.00 | CIA-14 | BigWigs: SC/Leotheras.lua: |
| 18:24.00 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.38 | mort | !c eu alleria macar |
| 18:32.41 | ThraeBot | mort: Macar, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (12/0/49). 11044 HP; 12189 Armour; 972 AP; 138.9 Melee DPS; 9.84% melee crit; 16 melee hit; 269 defense; 17.04% dodge; 21.28% block; 24 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1236 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yp9pk6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rltqd ]] |
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| 18:32.55 | buu | !ap 1750 |
| 18:32.55 | ThraeBot | buu: Arena points from a rating of 1750 is, 2v2: 484, 3v3: 553, 5v5: 691 |
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| 18:37.48 | Pkekyo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TrSNQQUxQM&mode=related&search= |
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| 18:42.59 | Saint-N | the big euro stranger rodeo is even funnier |
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| 18:48.15 | abug | Cryect: ping |
| 18:48.36 | Cryect | abug: yep |
| 18:48.40 | abug | hello! |
| 18:49.15 | kergoth | man i cant believe i went like a year without pvp.. i've missed this |
| 18:49.18 | abug | I was wondering if I could use a line from graphlib in my own lib, giving you credit of course |
| 18:49.18 | Pkekyo | "so what have you been up to this week?" - "I've been out lobbin' fast food at random twats" |
| 18:49.56 | Cryect | Sure you can copy whatever you want (as long as its not like a copy of graphlib renamed or something :-p) |
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| 18:50.15 | abug | just the texturepath line, it's genius |
| 18:50.20 | Cryect | yeah go aheda |
| 18:50.38 | abug | thank you |
| 18:50.47 | Saint-N | thats kind of spooky |
| 18:50.59 | Saint-N | thats the first time ive seen anyone ask to borrow stuff |
| 18:51.21 | abug | I ask so I don't get squished |
| 18:51.23 | Saint-N | usually its phrased like "that section taht deals with texture is awesome im so stealing that" |
| 18:51.24 | Nandini | oh, i guess maybe i should mention you in my "chart"lib :P |
| 18:51.34 | Saint-N | hah |
| 18:51.46 | Nandini | (j/k... something like that is so far beyond what i can do at this point. heheh) |
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| 18:51.57 | Cryect | Shrug its a part of code thats definately useful for others |
| 18:52.08 | Saint-N | thats why you steal it blatantly and rename it nandini ;P |
| 18:52.10 | Cryect | took me a while to figure out a way to handle it |
| 18:52.17 | abug | yeah it's awesome |
| 18:53.23 | Nandini | i stole most of Pitbull_HealthBar to make my Pitbull_ClassBar, but it's something I only use on my computer |
| 18:54.13 | Saint-N | cryect when are you gonna port super mario kart to wow? |
| 18:54.21 | Saint-N | ive been waiting and waiting and waiting |
| 18:54.29 | Nandini | i also discovered that setting custom colors for PB's class colors also changes dogtag's class colors (although it does not modify RAID_CLASS_COLORS) |
| 18:57.59 | Cryect | Saint-N: Hmm yeah I should work on that :-p |
| 18:58.57 | Nandini | i've found you can use the model control to use meshes and textures that aren't part of game content |
| 19:00.15 | abug | I still wish it didn't crap out when the model has more than one skin |
| 19:00.35 | ckknight | http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot081607085811jl7.jpg <-- color picker in its full glory |
| 19:00.49 | Saint-N | cryect: make it a loot module |
| 19:00.58 | Saint-N | whoever wins the race gets the loot ;P |
| 19:01.08 | Saint-N | itll make the instance MUCH slower but infinitely more fun |
| 19:01.20 | Saint-N | heh |
| 19:01.26 | Saint-N | tron light cycles for each drop |
| 19:01.41 | Dotted | files.wowace.com is slow today? |
| 19:01.56 | Cryect | ckknight: should have a HV square to select color on as well |
| 19:02.09 | ckknight | HV square? |
| 19:02.29 | sag_ich_nicht | fubar question, my fubar is not wide enough at my resolution and i can't find a way to make it wider, advise? |
| 19:02.46 | Dotted | sag_ich_nicht tried dragging the edge? |
| 19:02.48 | abug | go to fubar.com |
| 19:02.48 | Cryect | Hue and brightness or hue and saturation I should say square |
| 19:02.49 | Saint-N | click on the edge you wanna move til you see a sword then just drag it |
| 19:02.51 | abug | and ahve a drink |
| 19:02.52 | sag_ich_nicht | screenshot see here: http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_071507_002415.jpg |
| 19:03.01 | ckknight | Cryect: a color wheel, you mean? |
| 19:03.09 | ckknight | Cryect: no, I took that out. |
| 19:03.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Dotted: you mean left/right edge? |
| 19:03.14 | Cryect | Color wheels are awful |
| 19:03.18 | Saint-N | yup |
| 19:03.21 | Cryect | Square ones are better |
| 19:03.24 | ckknight | Cryect: you can access it through the hue and saturation sliders fine. |
| 19:03.31 | Cryect | shrug I guess |
| 19:03.59 | Dotted | sag_ich_nicht the edge you want to move which would be the right one in this case |
| 19:04.00 | buu | Does anyone know if there's a addon that would let me assign button sequences as hot keys? |
| 19:04.22 | Cryect | button sequences? |
| 19:04.25 | Saint-N | you need a "get colour at mouse" for colour matching |
| 19:04.33 | sag_ich_nicht | buu: what you want is not possible |
| 19:04.44 | Saint-N | sag_ich_nicht: it is |
| 19:04.50 | sag_ich_nicht | (well, it is, but not with an addon, and since you just want to abuse it i'm not telling you how) |
| 19:04.53 | sag_ich_nicht | not with an addon >.> |
| 19:04.53 | Saint-N | you'd just need to press the button numerous times |
| 19:05.00 | buu | Hrm? |
| 19:05.10 | sag_ich_nicht | no, not either, locked down in combat |
| 19:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | only macro |
| 19:05.13 | sag_ich_nicht | nothing else |
| 19:05.15 | Saint-N | really? |
| 19:05.15 | buu | Cryect: Instead of hitting say 'f' for the hot key, you would hit 'f a b' |
| 19:05.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Saint-N yes, really. |
| 19:05.28 | Saint-N | wow news to me |
| 19:05.36 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: I don't want it, I want to be friends. |
| 19:05.53 | Saint-N | sag_ich_nicht: tell me secret then! |
| 19:05.54 | Nandini | can you show an example of what the control looks like with r,g,b = 0,0,0 and 255,255,255 ? |
| 19:06.00 | Saint-N | you do now DI DI MAU! |
| 19:06.06 | Nandini | since those are two of the most commonly encountered colors? |
| 19:06.37 | ckknight | Nandini: sure |
| 19:06.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:05] <Saint-N> sag_ich_nicht: tell me secret then! <--no. no lazy gaming for you. l2p :P |
| 19:06.44 | Nandini | awesome |
| 19:07.43 | Saint-N | laugh |
| 19:07.44 | ckknight | white: http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot081607090646hv7.jpg |
| 19:07.46 | abug | how did the world do batch installations before autoit, I wonder...trained chimps? |
| 19:07.52 | Saint-N | but i wanna magically drop my totems without a thought ;P |
| 19:08.08 | Saint-N | i could just bind keys to my timed macros for my keyboard i suppose |
| 19:08.12 | ckknight | black: http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot081607090652xt7.jpg |
| 19:08.13 | Saint-N | heh |
| 19:08.39 | Amadeo | ckknight: Did you flirt with Elizabethaj? |
| 19:08.41 | ckknight | gray/blue w/ alpha: http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot081607090707rp0.jpg |
| 19:08.59 | ckknight | Amadeo: I was invited and she was offline, probably a spammer |
| 19:09.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Saint-N: or you could just make a damn /castsequence macro and click it 4 times |
| 19:09.03 | sag_ich_nicht | geez |
| 19:09.04 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:09.13 | ckknight | Nandini: that good? |
| 19:09.19 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: You missunderstood me. |
| 19:09.29 | buu | sag_ich_nicht: I wanted the opposite of what you thought. |
| 19:09.50 | abug | like the old figher game combos? |
| 19:09.58 | buu | abug: Essentially, yes. |
| 19:10.10 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r46717 10WhoDrop/ (6 files): WhoDrop - add data(NuguDrop 3.6 r1) |
| 19:10.14 | sb | mhh |
| 19:10.20 | sb | please fix prat urlcopy ;o |
| 19:10.21 | buu | I suppose what I *really* want is a prefix key.. |
| 19:10.40 | sb | you write no... and it is [no...] then :o |
| 19:10.49 | sb | (some strange reaction to '...' i think) |
| 19:10.54 | buu | So like, you bind '1' to cast something, then you hit 'c-f' and hit '1', and it casts something different.. |
| 19:11.01 | Saint-N | sag_ich_nicht: you're missing the point here, i want YOU to do all the work for me and then ill just cut and apste it in ;P |
| 19:11.06 | Saint-N | duh |
| 19:11.29 | Nandini | ckknight: i see you are dynamically adjusting the hue ramp, most image editing programs don't actually change that ramp's appearance, they only change the location of the slider around it, even when value = 0 |
| 19:11.46 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 19:12.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Saint-N: just open your damn macro interface, make a new one, enter #showtooltip, make a new line /castsequence, open your spellbook, shiftclick what you want cast, make a ",", continue until done -_- |
| 19:12.16 | ckknight | I actually have been meaning to change it with Sat as well |
| 19:12.44 | Saint-N | sag_ich_nicht: haha thanks, i was actually just teasing you though ;) |
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| 19:13.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Dotted: not doing what i want, i want the fubar to go all the lenght of the screen, not stop before the edge D: |
| 19:13.06 | Nandini | the bluegray example is interesting, you adjust EVERY ramp dynamically! i didn't guess that the alpha checkerboard texture was hiding behind all the ramps |
| 19:13.29 | Saint-N | sag_ich_nicht: shift to windowed mode and drag off screen |
| 19:13.42 | Dotted | sag_ich_nicht then drag it so it doesnt stop before the edge :/? |
| 19:14.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Dotted that is not working, fubar is simply TOO SHORT D: |
| 19:15.03 | sag_ich_nicht | just look at my screenshot, geez: http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_071507_002415.jpg |
| 19:15.06 | Gnarfoz | does RatingBuster count in gems in sockets? |
| 19:15.16 | stavmar_ | 2.2 is now downloadable, is voice chat ready? |
| 19:15.21 | abug | fuzyte, the once a day macro for natural fubar enhancement |
| 19:15.27 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: yes, unless you tell it not to |
| 19:15.40 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: k, wasn't sure |
| 19:16.00 | Dotted | sag_ich_nicht is fubar locked >_>? |
| 19:16.01 | tinyboom | sag_ich_nicht: remove the bars and make new ones;) |
| 19:16.16 | ckknight | Nandini: yea, they're all adjusted as you go, I made a movie yesterday. |
| 19:16.19 | tinyboom | sag_ich_nicht: usually helps, have had that problem myself:) |
| 19:16.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Dotted: no, but locking it again doesn't help :P |
| 19:16.31 | Mikk | stavmar_: yeah, voice chat works. people i've talked to say that quality is poop. |
| 19:16.35 | sag_ich_nicht | tinyboom: that would require me to reorder everything, DO NOT WANT D: |
| 19:16.43 | ckknight | Nandini: take a look, this is the old version, mind you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWqQ29iWBs |
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| 19:16.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight tell me how to fix it already :O |
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| 19:16.53 | Dotted | sag_ich_nicht try editing your savedvariable then |
| 19:16.58 | stavmar_ | Mik that is disappointing? |
| 19:17.03 | stavmar_ | mikk* |
| 19:17.14 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: fix what? |
| 19:17.15 | Mikk | depends what you're used to i suppose |
| 19:17.22 | Mikk | my guild is used to our ventrilo set to high quality |
| 19:17.32 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: fubar, too short, see screenshot: http://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_071507_002415.jpg |
| 19:17.40 | ckknight | drag the edge |
| 19:17.44 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't work. |
| 19:17.52 | Mikk | if you're used to TS with their min bandwidth horrorcodec, maybe you'll be satisfied |
| 19:17.53 | ckknight | yes it does |
| 19:18.01 | sag_ich_nicht | no, doesn't. want a fraps video? |
| 19:18.06 | Amadeo | it's better than TS, but not as good as Vent |
| 19:18.14 | ckknight | can you drag the bar itself? |
| 19:18.17 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 19:18.30 | ckknight | then you can resize it, move your cursor to the right edge and it'll turn into a sword |
| 19:18.39 | Saint-N | already told him that |
| 19:18.48 | tinyboom | ckknight: ohh, didn't know that, goodie:p |
| 19:18.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: jesus christ, thanks, that's hidden as hell |
| 19:18.58 | Saint-N | sag |
| 19:19.00 | tinyboom | haha |
| 19:19.02 | ckknight | I said drag the edge. |
| 19:19.03 | Saint-N | scroll up like 4 pages ;P |
| 19:19.09 | Saint-N | you retard |
| 19:19.11 | Saint-N | ;) |
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| 19:19.32 | Saint-N | click on the edge you wanna move til you see a sword then just drag it |
| 19:20.12 | Nandini | holy shit i never realized you could change their width, i've been plodding along with fubar spanning both monitors forever, even tho i always wanted it just on the right hand side |
| 19:20.13 | ckknight | okay, I'm gonna head out |
| 19:20.25 | Nandini | good work on the color picker, pretty amazing looking! |
| 19:20.25 | sag_ich_nicht | okay, sorry, that was easy to missread as drag to the edge, sorry :O |
| 19:20.40 | xyu | anyone ever heard of Muphrid's formula? and where can i find it? google comes up w/ nothing ^^ |
| 19:20.41 | Saint-N | im amazed at the amount of people that unless something is directed specifically at them cant manage to see parts in answer to thier question ;) |
| 19:21.04 | ckknight | Nandini: :-) |
| 19:21.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Saint-N: see my last message, i didn't overlook your message. |
| 19:21.08 | Saint-N | heh |
| 19:21.17 | Saint-N | im just making a general statement actually |
| 19:21.21 | Amadeo | Nandini sounds like a Mage name |
| 19:21.24 | Saint-N | it honestly surprises me most days |
| 19:21.35 | Nandini | i'm a druid |
| 19:21.40 | Amadeo | Can you at least do magic tricks? |
| 19:21.44 | Uhuru | someone is good about security and trojan ? |
| 19:21.44 | Saint-N | so i have a question |
| 19:21.46 | Nandini | but it does sound a bit like Houdini :) |
| 19:21.48 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:21.57 | Nandini | it's the name of a hindu cow godess |
| 19:22.03 | Amadeo | I see |
| 19:22.08 | Amadeo | So you must be Tauren! |
| 19:22.08 | Saint-N | whats the point/reason to play wow on dual screen? |
| 19:22.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Saint-N move all the statistics to the other screen :O |
| 19:22.23 | Saint-N | or is the second screen just all yer charts graphs buttons etc |
| 19:22.27 | Nandini | i keep the world frame on the left monitor |
| 19:22.36 | sag_ich_nicht | then play with nearly no clutter on the viewport :O |
| 19:22.38 | Nandini | i keep crap i don't care about on the right one |
| 19:22.40 | Saint-N | ahh |
| 19:23.21 | sag_ich_nicht | okay, next question, how do i make squeenix get the cut off look? someone told me squeenix does it, but i kind of doubt it now >.> |
| 19:23.30 | Saint-N | cut off? |
| 19:23.32 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 19:23.45 | NightHawkAtWork | you mean borderless? |
| 19:23.53 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 19:23.54 | Saint-N | ricominimap |
| 19:23.58 | Saint-N | its gooder |
| 19:23.58 | sag_ich_nicht | think quadratic, but with a triangle cut off at some point |
| 19:24.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Saint-N kthx will try |
| 19:24.04 | Dotted | gooder? |
| 19:24.10 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 19:24.12 | Nandini | i have a hexagonal minimap |
| 19:24.21 | Nandini | kind of pointless tho, but it's pretty |
| 19:24.22 | ckknight | well, I'm gonna head out, by the time I get back, I should hopefully have a working DBC |
| 19:24.33 | Saint-N | i wish i could make the minimap much larger |
| 19:24.41 | Nandini | just scale it |
| 19:24.48 | Saint-N | no i mean distance as well |
| 19:24.56 | ckknight | oh, no, lol |
| 19:24.58 | xyu | someone made a map that uses minimap textures for your worldmap ^^ |
| 19:24.59 | Saint-N | much much much further than it does on max |
| 19:25.00 | ckknight | unless you use Yatlas |
| 19:25.00 | xyu | that was pretty cool |
| 19:25.14 | Saint-N | xyu: really? |
| 19:25.22 | Saint-N | yatlas does that ckk? |
| 19:25.43 | Nandini | yatlas is pretty cool, it uses a ton of cpu time tho to stitch all the minimap tiles together |
| 19:26.07 | Saint-N | thats opkay its not like im doing anything important while im playing wow ;P |
| 19:26.15 | Nandini | it uses the minimap texture tiles from in-game, it doesn't use a composite image or anything |
| 19:26.43 | Nandini | i feel bad for the poor guy who had to figure out all the clipping coords to get them to fit together like a real map |
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| 19:27.20 | Nandini | i thought it would be cool to add extra minimap tiles to each side of the existing minimap |
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| 19:27.44 | Nandini | GPSLib has a very cool method of finding real map coords to assist with that |
| 19:28.05 | Nandini | but i dunno how useful it would be, you can't track anything that's not in that frame |
| 19:28.22 | Nandini | you could maybe put icons on it like from cartographer tho |
| 19:28.26 | Cryect | the clipping coords are generated from a program pretty sure for yatlas |
| 19:28.55 | Nandini | well however they did it, it's amazing, i think it inspired mapwow.com |
| 19:29.06 | Cryect | mapwow was around before yatlas :-p |
| 19:29.22 | Cryect | mapwow is pretty old |
| 19:30.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Nandini GPSLib syncs iirc |
| 19:30.09 | sag_ich_nicht | but i'm not sure anymore |
| 19:30.12 | Cryect | no it doesn't |
| 19:30.16 | Cryect | unless someone added syncing |
| 19:30.34 | Nandini | i'm not sure what there would be to sync, it just gets world coords from minimap pings |
| 19:30.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Nandini party member positions, duh :P |
| 19:30.50 | Cryect | well you can sync other people's coords |
| 19:30.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Cryect: then you should totaly add that ;O |
| 19:31.02 | Nandini | well you can do that with map coords already, you don't need world coords for that |
| 19:31.12 | winkiller | hm, omen doesn |
| 19:31.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Nandini... GPSLib works inside of instances :) |
| 19:31.20 | winkiller | 't seem to sync correctly |
| 19:31.26 | Nandini | yes i know since it uses world coords |
| 19:31.41 | winkiller | just on the trash at maulgar we had largely varying results |
| 19:31.51 | Nandini | but unless you are gonna make instance maps with world coords, what's the point of knowing a party member's location? |
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| 19:32.16 | sag_ich_nicht | winkiller: try if a raidwide /console reloadui fixes it, some of the people in your raid probably have the same bug i have, with omen being completely borked after zoning |
| 19:32.27 | NeoTron | I remember when in-game maps looked like that |
| 19:32.30 | winkiller | ah well yes |
| 19:32.32 | xyu | !c us Sargeras Xyu |
| 19:32.34 | ThraeBot | xyu: Xyu, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/0/61). 6673 HP; 8546 Mana; 134 mana regen; 41 spell crit; 107 spell hit; 573 +spell dmg/heal; 51 frost dmg (624); 4.9% dodge; 84 resilience;[[ TBR: 690 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2z8wvr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dzn3q ]] |
| 19:32.38 | winkiller | we had wipes on maulgar and some ran out |
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| 19:32.54 | winkiller | sag_ich_nicht: but that's not really a solution... |
| 19:32.55 | sag_ich_nicht | winkiller: i told Antiarc to look into it already, but well, nothing yet D: |
| 19:32.58 | winkiller | the 24 will kill me |
| 19:33.02 | winkiller | k thanks |
| 19:33.15 | Fisker- | :O |
| 19:33.17 | Fisker- | wuts gpslib? |
| 19:33.24 | sag_ich_nicht | something awesome. |
| 19:33.31 | Nandini | provides location (real world coords) via minimap ping distance |
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| 19:33.51 | Fisker- | :o |
| 19:33.53 | Nandini | meaning it works inside instances |
| 19:34.00 | Fisker- | any example addons to take advantage of it? |
| 19:34.14 | Cryect | DungeonCrawler |
| 19:34.19 | Cryect | but only works for one instance |
| 19:34.23 | Nandini | i think there was something that would show you a map of auchenai crypts |
| 19:34.30 | Nandini | that's prolly the one |
| 19:34.46 | Fisker- | doesn't sound very 1337 |
| 19:34.48 | Cryect | http://youtube.com/watch?v=IRz2HlUrufw |
| 19:35.30 | Fisker- | :O |
| 19:35.36 | Fisker- | that does look very 1337 |
| 19:35.50 | mort | uhh nice |
| 19:37.23 | sag_ich_nicht | okay wth |
| 19:37.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Ricominimap broke for me completely |
| 19:37.37 | sag_ich_nicht | any other minimap addon thath as the same mapshape? D: |
| 19:38.04 | kebinusan | simpleminimap? |
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| 19:39.39 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme try |
| 19:40.46 | Hjalte | Cryect, a working game version of the super mario kart addon would make my day! (and get the tanks killed) |
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| 19:42.19 | buu | UA needs to trigger on anything that removes it =[ |
| 19:42.43 | abug | divine shield? |
| 19:42.48 | buu | ESPECIALLY THAT. |
| 19:42.57 | buu | And skillcloak. |
| 19:43.09 | buu | I would laugh for ages. |
| 19:43.15 | CIA-14 | 03duerma * r46719 10RPHelper2/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:43.15 | CIA-14 | RPHelper2: |
| 19:43.15 | CIA-14 | -Added options to automatically disable addon in certain situation s(battlegrounds, raids, etc.) |
| 19:43.15 | CIA-14 | -Fixed a couple bugs |
| 19:43.36 | buu | Although playing with a priest with mass dispell has caused me so much joy recently. |
| 19:43.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc wb, you have a whole 25 man raid angry at you, for details ask winkiller :O |
| 19:43.48 | winkiller | hehe |
| 19:44.45 | kebinusan | My raid was pretty amused last night when I started spamming the cc breaker from recount |
| 19:45.14 | Antiarc | eh? |
| 19:45.45 | sag_ich_nicht | hi there. remember that bug with omen not working after zoning? well yeah. |
| 19:45.48 | Killmore | haha same thing :P |
| 19:45.53 | Killmore | cc breaker 4tw |
| 19:46.16 | Antiarc | bah, still sticking around? |
| 19:46.22 | Antiarc | I've gotta track that down |
| 19:46.30 | Antiarc | I've barely been in WoW lately |
| 19:46.35 | Antiarc | But it's top of the list when I get some time |
| 19:52.54 | Amadeo | Where should a 34-ish Hunter start going for some halfway decent gear? or just wait until 40 and do SM or something? |
| 19:54.46 | mjc | you can do SM at 35 or 36 |
| 19:55.31 | mjc | I want to see a bumper cars healing addon or something :O |
| 19:55.33 | Amadeo | but I can't wear mail until 40 :( |
| 19:55.58 | mjc | so? you get XP |
| 19:56.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:46] <+Antiarc> bah, still sticking around? <--yes. |
| 19:56.32 | Amadeo | I'll just group with all casters! |
| 19:57.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: if you could just give me some lua to "reboot" omen/threat-1.0 i'd be happy already ;) |
| 19:57.47 | Antiarc | Not sure I'd know what to suggest without knowing the cause. |
| 19:57.52 | sag_ich_nicht | (and when you give me that, you just put it to fire on a zoning event and the problem is solved, but the cause not found :P) |
| 19:58.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc well a reloadui fixes it |
| 19:58.11 | sag_ich_nicht | and it's something that happens during or shortly after zoning |
| 20:05.12 | CIA-14 | 03kilmmax * r46720 10autoLFG/ (autoLFG.lua autoLFG.toc): autoLFG: insert /alfg toggle |
| 20:06.36 | CIA-14 | 03starinnia * r46721 10SimpleMD/ (6 files): |
| 20:06.36 | CIA-14 | SimpleMD: |
| 20:06.37 | CIA-14 | - Added more broadcast selection options |
| 20:07.25 | Gagorian | Antiarc: We also had some problems tonight. MT wasn't visible to everyone etc |
| 20:07.31 | sag_ich_nicht | http://bash.org/?464561 that is a really good idea. |
| 20:07.47 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Whole raid with 46712 |
| 20:09.00 | sag_ich_nicht | this is happening since forever, i guess raids only start to notice it now ~_~ |
| 20:11.56 | winkiller | LOL Q: What did the pirate spec his mage? A: Arrrrcane. |
| 20:12.31 | sag_ich_nicht | lmao |
| 20:12.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i have to tell that one to our arcane mage |
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| 20:20.16 | Silviu- | Antiarc and pets visible after a whipe .. i did like 10 clear threat but they still apeared and we were ooc |
| 20:20.24 | Silviu- | wipe* |
| 20:21.03 | Antiarc | Yeah, aware of that one |
| 20:21.20 | Silviu- | Okay |
| 20:21.49 | durcyn | yes, we had a shadowfiend stuck at 653 threat last night |
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| 20:22.27 | Killmore | same thing |
| 20:22.35 | Chompers | hey Antiarc |
| 20:22.37 | Killmore | shadowfiend and hunter pet |
| 20:22.47 | durcyn | i know, killmore, just corroborating his report. |
| 20:22.58 | durcyn | more information > less information |
| 20:23.04 | Chompers | please add pet filtering to Omen! pleaaaaasssse |
| 20:23.43 | Chompers | seeing some hunters pet that's called 'SUPAD00D' on my omen window makes me a saaaad panda |
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| 20:24.47 | Chompers | or Snuggles, who the hell calls their pet Snuggles? |
| 20:24.56 | Cryect | Tell the pet not to taunt? :-p |
| 20:25.37 | Chompers | i've got omen set to only show warriors and myself |
| 20:25.39 | durcyn | could be worse, i used to have a hunter who named his pet the same as the main tank. |
| 20:26.06 | Chompers | if we have 3 hunters in a raid it's 3 pets, tank and myself |
| 20:32.06 | NightHawkAtWork | reasons not to buy a glass desk: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8lettersuk/1104535/ |
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| 20:37.09 | Amadeo | No, that's a reason not to by Ikea junk furniture :P |
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| 20:38.29 | Nandini | even 3/8" tempered glass can fall prey to an accidentally dropped ball peen hammer i've discovered |
| 20:38.48 | Nandini | the horrifying part is the hammer actually bounced once |
| 20:39.03 | Nandini | and in the split second before it hit the table again i thought everything was ok |
| 20:39.43 | abug | clearly we should sit on the floor |
| 20:39.56 | Nandini | and eat off the floor |
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| 20:40.06 | abug | and take off our shoes before we walk in |
| 20:40.18 | Nandini | i wish i could afford shoes :( |
| 20:40.57 | Chompers | what are shoes? |
| 20:41.46 | abug | edible |
| 20:41.49 | NightHawkAtWork | The things us rich people walk all over you with. |
| 20:41.59 | NightHawkAtWork | er, wait.. >.> |
| 20:43.17 | abug | http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt are you using that? or smoke signals? |
| 20:46.17 | stavmar_ | I am getting an error with NQuestLog http://ace.pastey.net/72295 |
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| 20:47.51 | Kemayo | stavmar_: Looks like the BlizzardFrames module is being run twice. |
| 20:49.06 | stavmar_ | Kemayo: maybe a reboot would fix that or does some of the code need to be changed? |
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| 20:50.09 | Kemayo | A reboot shouldn't change anything... if there's a codepath causing that to happen twice, I'd imagine it would be happening all the time. |
| 20:51.04 | stavmar_ | Also getting and error with ProfessionsBook http://ace.pastey.net/72297 trying to find a forum ost about the mod but have not been lucky finding it just yet. |
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| 20:51.18 | stavmar_ | ost/post/ |
| 20:52.29 | Kemayo | stavmar_: I'm confused as to why nQuestLog would have suddenly stopped working. It hasn't been touched since early July. |
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| 20:52.58 | stavmar_ | maybe i should delete my WTF, not too sure what else to try really |
| 20:53.12 | stavmar_ | well the NQuestlog file at least not the entire folder |
| 20:53.22 | Kemayo | Definitely worth a try. |
| 20:54.20 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46722 10GPSLib/ (GPS-1.0/GPS-1.0.lua GPSLib.toc): |
| 20:54.20 | CIA-14 | GPSLib - Some changes to how loadup is handled before adding syncing |
| 20:54.20 | CIA-14 | - Adds :GetOrientation() to return the current player's orientation |
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| 20:55.05 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:55.31 | Cryect | Hey |
| 20:57.45 | sylvanaar | ckknight color picker is looking good |
| 20:58.25 | Cryect | When do you think Joker will be polished enough to really start working with it? |
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| 20:59.23 | Cryect | and hi again |
| 21:09.44 | sb | )(317397 |
| 21:09.46 | sb | maah |
| 21:09.56 | sb | lurker + tidewalker today... in 4 (!) hours *sigh* |
| 21:10.03 | Killmore7 | :( |
| 21:10.18 | sb | time for some gkick action :/ |
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| 21:17.25 | ckknight | *wave* |
| 21:18.08 | sb | hey :o |
| 21:18.43 | Stan__ | hi ckknight |
| 21:18.52 | loonacy | Yo ck. |
| 21:18.58 | ckknight | I made a DBC library for lua |
| 21:19.05 | Srosh | Mornin' & Goodnight! :p |
| 21:19.12 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46723 10GPSLib/GPS-1.0/GPS-1.0.lua: |
| 21:19.12 | CIA-14 | GPSLib - Adds syncing and calibrating with other players in your group |
| 21:19.12 | CIA-14 | - Adds :IsPlayerSynced(name) which returns true if receiving player positions from name |
| 21:19.12 | CIA-14 | - Adds :GetPositionOf(name) returns x, y, ang of named |
| 21:19.12 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.13 | CIA-14 | - Adds :GetOrientationOf(name) returns ang of named player if they are synced |
| 21:19.45 | Cryect | by DBC Library what do you mean exactly? A utility to create a lua version of a DBC file? |
| 21:20.52 | ckknight | Design-by-Contract |
| 21:20.57 | ckknight | being able to add contracts to methods |
| 21:21.09 | ckknight | i.e. what arguments must be passed in, what must occur on exit |
| 21:21.17 | Cryect | boo I thought you meant something for working with DBC files in wow hopefully :-p |
| 21:21.53 | ckknight | e.g. precondition(t, "Pop", function(self) assert(self:GetLength() >= 1) end) |
| 21:21.54 | Cryect | a Lua library of spells.dbc would be useful |
| 21:26.29 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46724 10GPSLib/GPS-1.0/GPS-1.0.lua: GPSLib - Slight change to syncing |
| 21:27.48 | Elkano | Kara hates us... our pala just got his 4th T4 gloves token |
| 21:30.03 | Jaxon | I think I'm in love with PT3Bar. Now if only there was an easy way to prioritize conjured water over vendor water without having to use itemids |
| 21:32.08 | NightHawkAtWork | Elkano: either that or it really LOVES the pally? :P |
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| 21:38.08 | Hjalte | The general feeling i get that no-one loves paladin more than paladins. |
| 21:38.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:38.32 | Cryect | Hmm is there a simple example of having an overlay on the cartographer map in one of the modules? |
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| 21:39.52 | Elkano | well, it could also be because we have no Shaman in our group and the Rogue is missing most of the time ^^ |
| 21:40.21 | nevcairiel | we had that with mage |
| 21:40.26 | nevcairiel | dropped like every week |
| 21:40.45 | Kuja^ | does anyone know how the debuff filtering in decursive works? i wanted to add a debuff but it doesn't work for me, it doesn't get filterd... |
| 21:41.43 | Elkano | but at least we managed to down aran today so we are still improving ^^ attunmen-aran in one session |
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| 21:43.53 | SaladFork | Elkano - no shammies? |
| 21:43.56 | SaladFork | Our server's overloaded with them |
| 21:44.01 | SaladFork | I did kara last night with 6 shammies |
| 21:44.11 | deltron | lol |
| 21:44.19 | SaladFork | 2 resto, 2 ele, 2 enh |
| 21:44.19 | NightHawkAtWork | 6 shammies? o_0 |
| 21:44.20 | SaladFork | >.< |
| 21:44.20 | deltron | I've done it with 4 shammies and it works out awesome |
| 21:44.25 | Ominous | Elkano: you are at the same stage as us then, we just did that for the second week |
| 21:44.34 | SaladFork | My server's fat with 'em for some reason |
| 21:44.38 | NightHawkAtWork | jesus, no shortage of totems or BL eh? |
| 21:44.44 | SaladFork | Though i must say 6 bloodlusts and all the totems is nice |
| 21:44.52 | deltron | we had 6 shaman on gruul last night lol |
| 21:44.54 | SaladFork | Plus having a totem of wrath and a mana tide in each group is great |
| 21:44.57 | nevcairiel | we have like 4 shammis in our guild total |
| 21:45.05 | nevcairiel | and none of them was online for like the last week P |
| 21:45.10 | NightHawkAtWork | I guess that means no fights over WF or GOA, too? :P |
| 21:45.11 | Pkekyo | what is the american measurement system named? (as the european metric system) |
| 21:45.19 | NightHawkAtWork | Pkekyo: Imperial |
| 21:45.35 | SaladFork | No shortage of totems, =) |
| 21:45.49 | SaladFork | Though our MH forgot to bring Ankhs, >.< |
| 21:45.56 | NightHawkAtWork | (given that was originally the british imperial unit system) |
| 21:46.12 | NightHawkAtWork | lol, tell him to get FreeRefills :P |
| 21:46.16 | nevcairiel | SaladFork: the others can share, maybe ? :P |
| 21:46.18 | SaladFork | He's just lazy |
| 21:46.21 | SaladFork | Nev - that's what we did |
| 21:46.23 | SaladFork | He also forgot mana pots |
| 21:46.25 | SaladFork | I threw a fit at him |
| 21:46.28 | Jaxon | Pkekyo: it is just "Metric" Europe and most of the world use the same "Metric" system :P |
| 21:46.30 | SaladFork | Not only was he our main healer, he's our guild leader |
| 21:46.35 | SaladFork | Way to set an example, >.< |
| 21:46.40 | nevcairiel | haha |
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| 21:46.46 | NightHawkAtWork | lol |
| 21:46.47 | nevcairiel | you actually define people as MH? |
| 21:46.49 | durcyn | who the hell uses mana potions in karazhan? |
| 21:46.51 | nevcairiel | thats crazy :p |
| 21:46.57 | SaladFork | Nev - he just organizes the healers before a boss |
| 21:47.05 | SaladFork | Tells everyone what they're responsible for and such |
| 21:47.11 | SaladFork | We don't use class leaders, we use role leaders |
| 21:47.20 | SaladFork | I manage spell DPSers, =) |
| 21:47.24 | nevcairiel | we have class leaders and raid leaders |
| 21:47.39 | SaladFork | Yeah, that was our original goal |
| 21:47.44 | SaladFork | But it got twisted into whati t is now |
| 21:47.46 | SaladFork | But hey, it works |
| 21:47.47 | nevcairiel | with one exception to that, the warrior lead manages our feral druids too |
| 21:47.48 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r46725 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (MouseWheelBinding/MouseWheelBinding.lua SimpleSelfRebuff.lua): |
| 21:47.48 | CIA-14 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 21:47.48 | CIA-14 | - MouseWheelBinding now uses Pre/PostClick scripts, allowing simplier handling and to keep zooming function. |
| 21:48.29 | nevcairiel | but in your universe, i am a MH \o/ .. well the raid leader generally responsible for healing arrangements ;) |
| 21:48.36 | Cyrez | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 21:49.00 | purl | cncfanatics <i=evolve@231.150-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21h 58m 3s ago, saying: 'night all'. |
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| 21:49.00 | SaladFork | Nev - It's the same for us anyway |
| 21:49.01 | SaladFork | Our GL demands he's RL |
| 21:49.02 | SaladFork | And since he's MH |
| 21:49.05 | SaladFork | It all works out in the long run |
| 21:49.06 | Temporal | yeah |
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| 21:49.21 | SaladFork | Though he got ripped a new one last night |
| 21:49.27 | SaladFork | The other resto shammy totally out-geared and out-healed him |
| 21:49.30 | SaladFork | He was pissy, =) |
| 21:49.43 | SaladFork | !vs us aerie peak johnyquest us aerie peak perfection |
| 21:49.45 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Johnyquest vs Perfection! Two 70 shamans square off!; 0/5/56 vs 0/11/50; Perfection wins by 44 TBRs! |
| 21:49.52 | SaladFork | Pretty close, I'm surprised |
| 21:49.56 | SaladFork | Perfection is just DECKED |
| 21:50.00 | nevcairiel | that rating thing is weird |
| 21:50.07 | SaladFork | Well, check out the stats |
| 21:50.11 | SaladFork | My GL, RL, and MH: |
| 21:50.17 | SaladFork | !c us aerie peak Johnyquest |
| 21:50.20 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Johnyquest, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/5/56). 8294 HP; 9852 Mana; 179 mana regen; 54 mp5; 8824 Armour; 127 Melee DPS; 4.03% melee crit; 123 spell crit; 174 +spell dmg; 1414 +heal; 4.03% dodge; 5% block; 141 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 547 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuqab8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q3xg7 ]] |
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| 21:50.24 | SaladFork | And the other resto shammy: |
| 21:50.27 | SaladFork | !c us aerie peak perfection |
| 21:50.29 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Perfection, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/11/50). 11423 HP; 9600 Mana; 162 mana regen; 45 mp5; 10347 Armour; 4.03% melee crit; 202 spell crit; 129 +spell dmg; 1607 +heal; 4.03% dodge; 10% block; 288 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +11 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 591 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26l34z ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rsc89 ]] |
| 21:50.31 | Diao | what's GL and RL |
| 21:50.43 | Temporal | !c us hyjal Xq |
| 21:50.45 | SaladFork | Guild/Raid Leader |
| 21:50.46 | ThraeBot | Temporal: Xq, Level 67 Human Warlock (6/52/0). 6435 HP; 6810 Mana; 148 mana regen; 8 mp5; 44 spell crit; 160 +spell dmg; 13 shadow dmg (173); 39 fire dmg (199); 4.08% dodge;[[ TBR: 652 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2crb9p ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/384yeo ]] |
| 21:50.47 | Diao | oh |
| 21:50.50 | SaladFork | Hahaha |
| 21:50.55 | SaladFork | Perfection's in his PvP gear |
| 21:50.58 | SaladFork | And he still beats Johny in raw +healing |
| 21:50.59 | SaladFork | >., |
| 21:51.12 | nevcairiel | i am not that sure about stats on shamans tho` |
| 21:51.13 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 21:51.29 | nevcairiel | i tend to judge peoples ability to heal by performance, not equip |
| 21:51.41 | SaladFork | haha |
| 21:51.45 | SaladFork | Well, Perfection's known server-wide |
| 21:51.47 | SaladFork | At least Horde side |
| 21:51.56 | NightHawkAtWork | !c us Laughing Skull Keribdis |
| 21:51.59 | ThraeBot | NightHawkAtWork: Keribdis, Level 70 Troll Shaman (11/0/50). 6889 HP; 7913 Mana; 134 mana regen; 19 mp5; 6398 Armour; 4.32% melee crit; 177 spell crit; 31 spell hit; 585 +spell dmg/heal; 4.32% dodge; 5% block; 24 resilience;[[ TBR: 528 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29k3h7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34tqm6 ]] |
| 21:52.02 | SaladFork | Night - that you? |
| 21:52.13 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah |
| 21:52.17 | SaladFork | Elemental? |
| 21:52.17 | NightHawkAtWork | but I logged out in my shitty ele gear. |
| 21:52.22 | SaladFork | Ah |
| 21:52.22 | SaladFork | lol |
| 21:52.26 | NightHawkAtWork | resto, check the spec :p |
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| 21:52.31 | SaladFork | !c us aerie peak saladfork |
| 21:52.34 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 7753 HP; 8276 Mana; 166 mana regen; 198 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 637 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (891); 179 shadow dmg (816); 5.9% dodge; 78 resilience; +28 all resists;[[ TBR: 708 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoyvev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xggmd ]] |
| 21:52.35 | SaladFork | That's me, =) |
| 21:52.43 | NightHawkAtWork | Last time i logged off i was grinding, and no sane person grinds in resto gear ;) |
| 21:52.46 | SaladFork | Oh crap |
| 21:52.51 | SaladFork | it caught me while I was in my flying gear |
| 21:52.59 | SaladFork | I usually have +1009 frost damage |
| 21:53.00 | nevcairiel | no sane person grinds resto specced |
| 21:53.02 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 21:53.04 | ckknight | I was wardriving before, so had a shoddy connection |
| 21:53.05 | SaladFork | wb ckk |
| 21:53.50 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas nevcairiel |
| 21:53.53 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 7954 HP; 9080 Mana; 380 mana regen; 180 mp5; 4.56% melee crit; 1674 +heal; 5.25% dodge; 31 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 184 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2djck4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o6h5g ]] |
| 21:54.04 | nevcairiel | hm gear looks right, at least that |
| 21:54.08 | Diao | flying gear wtf? |
| 21:54.10 | nevcairiel | but i am still flasked :P |
| 21:54.17 | Diao | what flying gear o_O |
| 21:54.23 | SaladFork | Diao - I use outfitter for pretty much everything |
| 21:54.25 | nevcairiel | wtf happend to my TBR |
| 21:54.27 | NightHawkAtWork | nevcairiel: eh, honestly I don't terribly mind grinding resto specced on my shammy |
| 21:54.34 | SaladFork | Goggles + Riding Crop |
| 21:54.41 | Diao | o_o |
| 21:54.42 | Diao | goggles? |
| 21:54.42 | SaladFork | Replaces my helm and trinket |
| 21:54.47 | SaladFork | Yeah, have you ever flown without 'em |
| 21:54.47 | NightHawkAtWork | earth shield means I never really die, and the 11 points in ele gives me the clearcasting talent |
| 21:54.51 | SaladFork | The wind in your eyes is a BITCH |
| 21:54.59 | Diao | lol wtf |
| 21:55.03 | nevcairiel | NightHawkAtWork: not sure how that is for shamans .. but as a druid it really sucks, i only to those healer friendly dailys |
| 21:55.27 | SaladFork | Nev - the resto shammy friend I was talking about earlier has been saving for an epic flying forever |
| 21:55.34 | NightHawkAtWork | nevcairiel: yeah, druids might be different. I tried elemental spec on my shaman once, and it sucked because you had no way to prevent pushback, and no way to keep mobs off you. |
| 21:55.35 | SaladFork | Doing nothing but the skettis/orgi'la bombing missions |
| 21:55.40 | SaladFork | And the Ogri'la simon says game |
| 21:55.49 | NightHawkAtWork | Earth shield goes a long way toward keeping you healed and preventing pushback from damage |
| 21:56.09 | nevcairiel | i just root single mobs and kill them at range |
| 21:56.21 | nevcairiel | but i only have like 500 spelldmg in my shitty dmg gear :P |
| 21:56.28 | nevcairiel | wtb expansion, free dps for healers! |
| 21:56.34 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, so do i, which you can see if you scroll up. ;) |
| 21:56.55 | SaladFork | Hehe, I'm making my druid feral |
| 21:57.08 | SaladFork | The only tank that doesn't pay out their ears for repairs, and with a change of gear can DPS/level/grind wel |
| 21:57.29 | nevcairiel | My feral equip isnt too bad either, basicly everything from kara and some blues |
| 21:57.35 | nevcairiel | but dpsing is boring |
| 21:57.41 | nevcairiel | tanking is some fun .. |
| 21:57.48 | nevcairiel | but my heart is at healing :) |
| 21:57.57 | SaladFork | hehe |
| 21:58.05 | Temporal | !c us stormrage ace |
| 21:58.07 | SaladFork | I would heal if Blizz didn't make it so shitty to be a healer |
| 21:58.08 | ThraeBot | Temporal: Ace, Level 70 Human Mage (11/47/3). 10073 HP; 7961 Mana; 165 mana regen; 256 spell crit; 71 spell hit; 808 +spell dmg/heal; 5.02% dodge; 257 resilience;[[ TBR: 706 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zs3u5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2zus62 ]] |
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| 21:58.29 | nevcairiel | I've been playing my druid since release |
| 21:58.34 | nevcairiel | and basicly always been a healer |
| 21:58.52 | SaladFork | I pity you |
| 21:58.54 | NightHawkAtWork | for me, healing and dps are pretty equal in terms of fun, but I really love tanking. >.> |
| 21:58.55 | SaladFork | You guys can't grind for shit |
| 21:59.22 | nevcairiel | i love the daily quests for that |
| 21:59.23 | NightHawkAtWork | i've actually got decent enh gear on my shammy too. |
| 21:59.30 | SaladFork | Even then Nev, that's not a significant source of income, >.< |
| 21:59.37 | SaladFork | I do 10 dailies a day, of which probably 6 require fighting |
| 21:59.41 | nevcairiel | its enough to pay the bills of raiding ;) |
| 21:59.55 | SaladFork | Perhaps, but doesn't let you spend much on anything else |
| 22:00.02 | durcyn | eh? dailies are great. i two-box ten and pull down 250g per day |
| 22:00.15 | SaladFork | dur - We're talking about healers doing 'em |
| 22:00.18 | nevcairiel | When i really need money i respec and grind |
| 22:00.23 | nevcairiel | but thats not often the case |
| 22:00.27 | nevcairiel | i basicly have what i need :) |
| 22:00.29 | SaladFork | Nev - yeah, but that's a 100g drop, =S |
| 22:00.32 | durcyn | healers need to make friends with dps classes and do dailies then |
| 22:00.36 | durcyn | what's the second M in MMO? |
| 22:00.45 | Matrix110 | Multiplayer |
| 22:00.58 | nevcairiel | Massive Multiplayer Online .... you get it |
| 22:01.13 | durcyn | keke, single player game then, i see |
| 22:01.22 | nevcairiel | exactly. |
| 22:01.34 | Tinhay | Is there any easy way to find out which ace library is consuming how much memory? |
| 22:01.49 | nevcairiel | SaladFork: i dont do that too often, i have my epix flying mount, and what would i buy :D |
| 22:02.01 | Tinhay | for example my fubar has 7 MB gain after 30 mins of raiding and that's obviously because it's loading all the libs |
| 22:02.10 | SaladFork | nev - I've had my epic flyer since my 2nd day as 70 |
| 22:02.10 | Tinhay | but I'd like to find out which lib is causing all the gain <.< |
| 22:02.14 | SaladFork | And I still need money |
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| 22:02.59 | NeoTron | I'm trying to figure out how to get an epic flyer for my paladin |
| 22:03.05 | nevcairiel | at 60 i used to have a warlock alt for grinding |
| 22:03.11 | NeoTron | right now I can't even affort a normal bird for her (she's a herber/miner) |
| 22:03.13 | nevcairiel | but its still stuck at 66 |
| 22:03.17 | nevcairiel | so not much grinding :P |
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| 22:04.17 | nevcairiel | i should really get it to 70 before the next expansion hits |
| 22:04.36 | xyu | what blessing do tank pallies usually use? |
| 22:04.36 | sag_ich_nicht | you should at least get to 68... |
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| 22:04.41 | sag_ich_nicht | sanct |
| 22:04.43 | xyu | sacnt? |
| 22:04.43 | xyu | ok |
| 22:04.44 | xyu | thx |
| 22:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | why? |
| 22:05.26 | BubbaFooBoy | Threat reduction? |
| 22:05.28 | xyu | a lowbie guild friend of mine is asking, he can't seem to hold threat vs a shadowpriest and a hunter and warlock |
| 22:05.30 | xyu | in ramparts |
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| 22:08.37 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 22:08.44 | sag_ich_nicht | xyu he should read a damn guide |
| 22:09.12 | sag_ich_nicht | if he can't figure out that he should use the damn blessing that is so damn deep in the prot tree is what you choose |
| 22:09.38 | xyu | oh he knew. i was just making sure that's the right one. |
| 22:09.48 | xyu | but yeah definately should read up before tanking |
| 22:09.48 | xyu | ha |
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| 22:18.23 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 22:18.23 | CIA-14 | - bugfix for animated min-/maximization on login |
| 22:18.23 | CIA-14 | - performance improvement with animated min-/maximization |
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| 22:34.17 | Chompers | does anyone have a picture of their Ui? |
| 22:34.31 | Punkie` | yes |
| 22:34.34 | [dRaCo] | ofc |
| 22:34.38 | Chompers | i'm trying to find pictures of really elegant ,good looking UIs |
| 22:35.11 | [dRaCo] | mine's neither elegant nor minimalistic, but it's got all the info you need ;) |
| 22:35.27 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/yatta.jpg |
| 22:36.54 | [dRaCo] | http://www.uny-net.de/rdr/uploads/photos/95.jpg |
| 22:37.03 | Punkie` | most UI's tend to look the same with their OMG ALL IN ONE BOX look |
| 22:37.37 | kebinusan | heh, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbQScYx5quc |
| 22:38.36 | TecnoBrat | phyber, ping? |
| 22:40.03 | phyber | TecnoBrat: pong |
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| 22:41.38 | charon | mine as of some time ago, but it's mostly the same except i've made the party frames slightly smaller: http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_072807_181246.jpg |
| 22:42.05 | charon | though right now i'm looking for ideas to make it less epileptic, so to speak |
| 22:42.14 | Chompers | they're all good |
| 22:42.24 | TecnoBrat | phyber, RestFu's tooltip borks out when you go to remove a character |
| 22:42.28 | TecnoBrat | it goes blank |
| 22:42.29 | Chompers | i remember seeing something that was so minimalist |
| 22:42.33 | Chompers | looked amazing |
| 22:42.37 | TecnoBrat | and you cant get it to show anything without reloadui |
| 22:43.35 | phyber | TecnoBrat: yup, i know of that error. i just haven't bothered to properly look at it yet. |
| 22:43.42 | TecnoBrat | cool :) |
| 22:43.58 | TecnoBrat | I just transfered some characters, and obviously had to delete the old ones |
| 22:44.06 | TecnoBrat | on a more sad note, I have 275 days playtime |
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| 22:44.42 | Xinhuan | you're fine |
| 22:44.49 | Xinhuan | i have 409 days on mine |
| 22:45.16 | [dRaCo] | o0 |
| 22:45.58 | Stan__ | wtf |
| 22:45.59 | Stan__ | sick0 |
| 22:46.02 | Stan__ | O.O |
| 22:46.33 | [dRaCo] | that's more than a freakin' year... I mean, dude, ftw? |
| 22:46.48 | Xinhuan | for your info, it doesn't say "1 year xxx days" |
| 22:46.49 | art3mis | that was his first year of college |
| 22:46.55 | Xinhuan | it just says "409 days, etc etc" |
| 22:47.03 | art3mis | and the primary reason he's retaking it ;P |
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| 22:47.18 | Xinhuan | actually im in my final year now |
| 22:47.27 | Mudkips | 409 days... |
| 22:47.27 | ckknight | Xinhuan: botter? |
| 22:47.30 | art3mis | <--- mind taker! |
| 22:47.33 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 22:47.34 | Mudkips | dot dot dot |
| 22:47.40 | Xinhuan | just play a lot and alt-tab a lot |
| 22:47.44 | ckknight | how, then? |
| 22:47.46 | ckknight | oh |
| 22:47.53 | Xinhuan | but a lot of that online time is really fooling with addons |
| 22:47.59 | Xinhuan | in ironforge |
| 22:48.45 | Xinhuan | i was a bit hardcore last year though |
| 22:48.55 | Xinhuan | i have both grand marshal and scarab lord titles |
| 22:49.29 | Mudkips | ._. |
| 22:49.36 | art3mis | yeah well |
| 22:49.39 | art3mis | i have egbert |
| 22:49.42 | art3mis | so nyah |
| 22:49.47 | Stan__ | the grand marshal is for arena? |
| 22:49.55 | Xinhuan | no its for the pre 2.0 honor system lolz |
| 22:49.56 | art3mis | old battle ground title |
| 22:50.12 | Stan__ | k |
| 22:52.10 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 22:52.19 | art3mis | any of you play on kelthuzad? |
| 22:52.36 | art3mis | aside from anduin |
| 22:53.51 | Aenslaed | yeah? |
| 22:56.15 | ckknight | Xinhuan: what do you play? |
| 22:56.19 | ckknight | class/race-wise |
| 22:56.23 | Xinhuan | gnome mage |
| 22:56.32 | Xinhuan | on US blackrock |
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| 22:57.28 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:57.30 | Amadeo | This is awesome - http://drobo.com/products_demo.aspx |
| 22:57.32 | ckknight | <-- draenei pally |
| 22:57.44 | Xinhuan | draenei is awesome |
| 22:57.53 | Xinhuan | at least, the racials are |
| 22:58.02 | art3mis | only if you have friends |
| 22:58.10 | art3mis | no friends and its useless |
| 22:58.38 | Tornhoof | amadeo, it's not even proper raid 5 or raid 6 |
| 22:59.01 | Tornhoof | it's some home-made "data security" |
| 22:59.04 | Tornhoof | forget it ;) |
| 22:59.29 | Xinhuan | !c us blackrock Xinhuan |
| 22:59.31 | Amadeo | That's the benefit of it |
| 22:59.31 | ThraeBot | Xinhuan: Xinhuan, Level 70 Gnome Mage (43/18/0). 7303 HP; 10616 Mana; 179 mana regen; 27 mp5; 385 spell crit; 115 spell hit; 893 +spell dmg/heal; 144 frost dmg (1037); 144 arcane dmg (1037); 144 fire dmg (1037); 5.86% dodge; 68 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 734 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fouvg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ojnoq ]] |
| 22:59.33 | Mudkips | 12(10 ckknight 12): in my realm, we KOS your type |
| 22:59.46 | ckknight | KOS? |
| 22:59.54 | Mudkips | kill on sight |
| 22:59.58 | ckknight | why? |
| 23:00.05 | Keya | which type would that be? |
| 23:00.09 | Xinhuan | i haven't figured out what the "TBR" means in that report |
| 23:00.11 | Mudkips | draeneis |
| 23:00.18 | ckknight | why? |
| 23:00.19 | Mudkips | mostly male draeneis |
| 23:00.27 | ckknight | I play female |
| 23:00.58 | Mudkips | and you're definitely dead if youre a draenei shaman of any gender |
| 23:01.11 | Xinhuan | racist |
| 23:01.12 | art3mis | how is drobo a robot? |
| 23:01.14 | Mudkips | lmao |
| 23:01.22 | Xinhuan | sexist too ;p |
| 23:01.45 | Amadeo | art3mis: I guess they like to buzzword it since they claim it has AI |
| 23:01.58 | Amadeo | it's too expensive, but a cool idea |
| 23:02.00 | art3mis | oh my god it can span drives! |
| 23:02.06 | art3mis | its magic i tell you magic! |
| 23:02.16 | Nandini | since when do people use buzzword as a verb? |
| 23:02.38 | Amadeo | Since now! |
| 23:03.03 | art3mis | they could have just said "you just plug it in and mini Storage Elves store and move the data around so you don't have to. They even have ESP so add or remove a drive whenever you want" |
| 23:03.23 | art3mis | that would have made it much more appealing |
| 23:03.32 | Amadeo | I like Storage Elves |
| 23:03.52 | Amadeo | Magical Storage Elves |
| 23:03.57 | art3mis | as it is it's just a hotswappable usb box with a "software raid" |
| 23:04.10 | art3mis | let's hear it for logicial volume managment! |
| 23:04.17 | ckknight | Mudkips: I don't play on a PvP realm anyway |
| 23:04.21 | art3mis | heh |
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| 23:04.39 | Amadeo | art3mis: Yeah, but what else does it? :) |
| 23:04.39 | art3mis | heh i was running around stone talon the other day and this hunter was there killing spiders |
| 23:04.44 | Nandini | i've never played on a pve realm |
| 23:04.53 | art3mis | so i waited til he was done with the spider, waved at him and killed him |
| 23:05.09 | Amadeo | The first PvE realm I played on had more PvP than any of the PvP realms I'm on now |
| 23:05.13 | art3mis | went and turned in a quest came back waved he smiled and waved and we parted |
| 23:05.22 | art3mis | it was the oddest pvp experience ever |
| 23:05.39 | Nandini | there are hardly any allies on my realm, so it's probably actually a lot like pve |
| 23:05.46 | Nandini | we have more blood elves than allies |
| 23:05.55 | xyu | wow, just wow. someone actually got a tattoo of Tubgirl. http://x022.uploaderx.net/x/Tubgirl_tattoo.jpg |
| 23:05.58 | art3mis | you can get a spary for that ya know |
| 23:06.05 | art3mis | spray |
| 23:06.32 | art3mis | xyu: wow... just wow |
| 23:06.36 | Amadeo | When WoW first came out, I rolled on PvE since they kept talking about a near-future Battleground patch that made me believe the game would be like Dark Age of Camelot was...so I figured with a Frontier-type setup and Battlegrounds, PvE was the way to go |
| 23:06.38 | Nandini | i always thought pepper spray should be a racial of blood elves |
| 23:06.39 | Amadeo | Boy was I wrong :P |
| 23:06.44 | kebinusan | You should make a ceramic fountain out of it |
| 23:06.48 | kebinusan | fill it with apple cider or soemthing |
| 23:06.52 | xyu | hah |
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| 23:07.25 | xyu | i can't imagine farming on a pve server |
| 23:07.30 | xyu | it must be hard |
| 23:07.42 | Nandini | well the battlegrounds were originally integrated into the world environment like world pvp is now, they weren't instanced |
| 23:07.46 | Amadeo | I was really, really hoping for a setup like DAoC |
| 23:08.02 | Amadeo | Nandini: Yeah, but it took *forever* for them to bring them to WoW :P |
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| 23:08.15 | xyu | they need a Darkness Falls |
| 23:08.16 | xyu | for WoW |
| 23:08.18 | xyu | PVP instancve |
| 23:08.26 | xyu | that you control |
| 23:08.29 | xyu | and can get phat loot from |
| 23:08.39 | sb | haha, it will be 90% alliance then ;p |
| 23:08.46 | Amadeo | I just liked the Frontier setup |
| 23:08.54 | Amadeo | all the servers were PvE, and if you wanna PvP, you step into the area |
| 23:09.04 | xyu | well they had hardcore |
| 23:09.06 | xyu | no faction pvp servers |
| 23:09.07 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 23:09.16 | xyu | morgrim i think? |
| 23:09.17 | Amadeo | but not initally, did they? |
| 23:09.18 | xyu | and another |
| 23:09.19 | xyu | nope |
| 23:09.21 | Amadeo | initially, even |
| 23:09.24 | xyu | not initially |
| 23:09.29 | xyu | not for quite a while actually |
| 23:09.37 | ckknight | I still call the alliance/horde separation absurd |
| 23:09.40 | Amadeo | that's why Warhammer sounds fun :) |
| 23:10.06 | xyu | yep |
| 23:10.19 | xyu | There must be murderers amongst themselves, i want to be one of them :( |
| 23:10.27 | Nandini | it sounds like the middle zone in northrend will be one giant pvp objective |
| 23:10.28 | xyu | i want to kill my fellow! |
| 23:10.59 | Amadeo | Nandini: It sounds like Frontiers to me :) |
| 23:11.06 | Xinhuan | i am skeptical about that pvp zone in northrend |
| 23:11.11 | Amadeo | I think it's a good idea |
| 23:11.18 | Amadeo | they should have had them to begin with |
| 23:11.18 | Xinhuan | it'll probably just end up like another Halaa |
| 23:11.40 | Nandini | allies assault halaa on our server about once a day so a couple hunters can come buy ammo |
| 23:11.47 | Nandini | then they leave and it goes back to horde |
| 23:12.14 | Nandini | but i think they're changing it so there isn't a limit of 200 arrows/shot or whatever it is now |
| 23:12.22 | ckknight | see, what they should do is instead of having your faction by race, instead have it something to choose like Aldor/Scryer, race might play a role and all, but it should be ultimately changeable. In such a situation as this, you could have PvE objectives where everyone's a big happy family or you could have PvP objectives where you have Aldor vs Scryer, and there's also the possibility of different faction rivalries, etc. |
| 23:12.33 | Nandini | which means they allies will probably pick one day a week to do their little raid |
| 23:13.01 | ckknight | Tornhoof: why do you do that? |
| 23:13.52 | Amadeo | They had a deity preference in EverQuest that changed faction a bit, I think |
| 23:14.53 | Nandini | aldor and scryer are just unhappy allies with each other, they're not at war |
| 23:15.02 | ckknight | I dunno, I just don't like the pure racial divide that WoW has |
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| 23:15.13 | ckknight | especially when they have reason to work together sometimes (e.g. AQ) |
| 23:15.23 | ckknight | and you can't even talk to each other |
| 23:15.28 | Nandini | sometimes we work together on my server to do bas'hir's landing |
| 23:15.29 | ckknight | I'd have my theoretical MMO be different |
| 23:15.31 | Xinhuan | AQ was really bad.... |
| 23:15.33 | Amadeo | Nandini: Yet they kick your ass if you go into their area :P |
| 23:16.04 | Nandini | just because you're allied with someone doesn't mean you can walk right into their base of operations :) |
| 23:16.36 | Nandini | british intelligence agents don't have free roam of CIA headquarters whenever they feel like it :) |
| 23:16.38 | Amadeo | That's a tough comparison considering it's all completely open and inviting, right next door to the others :P |
| 23:16.38 | ckknight | I wish I could make an MMO, but it's hard and would cost money |
| 23:17.02 | Amadeo | British intelligence doesn't have an open building across the street from the CIA, either :P |
| 23:17.18 | ckknight | they actually do work together, so you know |
| 23:17.24 | Nandini | i dunno, the big red name over their heads tells me they might have a bad reaction to me being there :) |
| 23:17.54 | ckknight | either way, in WoW's environment, Allies vs. Horde no longer makes sense |
| 23:18.07 | ckknight | because it's not a good/evil or order/chaos divide |
| 23:18.08 | art3mis | sure it does |
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| 23:18.15 | Amadeo | they're Allies vs Horde but all they end up doing is helping each other |
| 23:18.18 | Amadeo | haha |
| 23:18.27 | ckknight | instead WoW has order vs. chaos where order is Allies + Horde vs. Burning Legion types |
| 23:18.59 | ckknight | sure they may not like each other and all, and there might be land disputes, but it's not as if there's open war going on |
| 23:19.01 | Nandini | i thought it would make sense to have the world change to account for politics |
| 23:19.14 | ckknight | I agree |
| 23:19.23 | ckknight | some quests only available if a faction controls an area |
| 23:19.24 | ckknight | etc. |
| 23:19.25 | Nandini | i too thought it might be good for those who went to outland to all be working together vs. the BL |
| 23:19.39 | ckknight | which would make sense. |
| 23:19.46 | Nandini | but back on the old continents things stay as they were |
| 23:19.54 | Nandini | in outland we work together because we're forced to |
| 23:20.11 | ckknight | yet there are still PvP objectives in Outland :-P |
| 23:20.11 | Diao | "work together" |
| 23:20.13 | Diao | lol |
| 23:20.29 | Nandini | i meant that would have made more sense to me if they had done it that way |
| 23:20.30 | ravagernl | And how would we communicate if we were working together then? |
| 23:20.35 | Nandini | but then there's the language barrier |
| 23:20.44 | art3mis | simple |
| 23:20.45 | Nandini | doesn't make sense that we could understand each other in outland but not anywhere else |
| 23:20.46 | ravagernl | 27 11 11? |
| 23:20.47 | Amadeo | I like how they tried to force PvP by placing the towns and quests the way they did in Hellfire Peninsula, and it ended up being the most carebear zone ever :P |
| 23:20.51 | art3mis | universal translator |
| 23:20.55 | art3mis | like in star trek |
| 23:21.01 | ravagernl | L t A A F :P |
| 23:21.08 | art3mis | no matter how far out and un explored they go they can always understand whoever it is |
| 23:21.11 | xyu | i used to have a universal translator. it was called editing the mpq files :P |
| 23:21.15 | xyu | those were the days |
| 23:21.31 | art3mis | and they were always within 15 mins of a starbase |
| 23:21.46 | Nandini | yeah i thought maybe the naaru could give you an inventory item that worked as a translator "this works only in outland" kinda tag |
| 23:21.58 | art3mis | ss a C P U |
| 23:22.00 | Diao | like a babelfish? |
| 23:22.05 | xyu | they'd lose a large pvp fan base. |
| 23:22.05 | art3mis | undead for me ador y o u |
| 23:22.27 | Xinhuan | do you remember closed beta? Undead race could speak "Common". |
| 23:22.40 | Nandini | in alpha, EVERYONE could speak common |
| 23:22.45 | ravagernl | I like how alliance tries to say L O L when they say O Y O XD |
| 23:22.51 | Xinhuan | but because of immaturity of usage (mostly only used to cuss), it was removed |
| 23:22.53 | ckknight | imho, all races should speak a common language, and every race have their own racial language as well |
| 23:23.02 | NeoTron | Nandini: in alpha there was never two factions available at once |
| 23:23.07 | Nandini | that's how it was in alpha, and that's how it was in lore too |
| 23:23.18 | Nandini | everyone could at least marginally understand common |
| 23:23.25 | NeoTron | dwarf/gnome, undead, tri-horde (tauren, orc, troll), alliance (without NE) etc |
| 23:24.03 | Nandini | even murloc traders can supposedly speak common :) |
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| 23:25.24 | Nandini | kinda makes you wonder what the game would be like if they had stuck more closely to their "lore" |
| 23:25.59 | Xinhuan | well accordingly - when you make your new character as a level 1 |
| 23:26.03 | Xinhuan | you're young and just adventuring out |
| 23:26.11 | Xinhuan | and have no knowledge of other languages |
| 23:26.18 | Xinhuan | esp the opposing faction ones |
| 23:26.42 | Diao | but you somehow magically understand your own faction |
| 23:26.46 | NeoTron | they should make it so you start out as a kid and then as you level, grow older. >:-) |
| 23:27.04 | NeoTron | then by level 80 we'd all be old farts that sit around and talk about the good old days pre-2.0 |
| 23:27.10 | Xinhuan | that's because in school when you grow up, you were taught your racial language, as well as your faction's common language |
| 23:27.13 | Nandini | some games have tried doing that, but there was always the question of what to do when your char is at an age near death |
| 23:27.14 | Xinhuan | but not the opposite faction one |
| 23:27.19 | Diao | lmao |
| 23:28.11 | NeoTron | you die of course |
| 23:28.13 | NeoTron | and start all over |
| 23:28.16 | Nandini | and so much of your character's appearance in WoW is obscured by armor, visible aging would really not be obvious |
| 23:28.17 | NeoTron | whee |
| 23:28.35 | NeoTron | just decrease movement speed when you're above 60 >:-) |
| 23:28.36 | Nandini | unless you needed a walker to get around |
| 23:28.45 | NeoTron | and by l80 you get epic wheel chairs |
| 23:28.47 | Xinhuan | if they made /played coincide with how old your char looked, it would be awesome |
| 23:28.56 | NeoTron | and if you're poor, the "rare" walkers yeah |
| 23:28.58 | ckknight | lol, NeoTron |
| 23:29.34 | Nandini | someone should make a movie about the old orcs' home |
| 23:29.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 23:29.46 | Nandini | thrall with alzheimer's |
| 23:30.44 | ckknight | see Cairne in the corner, talking about those silly centaurs of his |
| 23:30.46 | Amadeo | is Thrall killable? |
| 23:31.14 | Nandini | i'm assuming he is, i've raided ally capitals and killed their leaders |
| 23:31.28 | Xinhuan | yes thrall is killable |
| 23:31.31 | charon | hmm. is there a general guideline how to make an interface less tiring to use? do i make things smaller or larger? more transparent or brighter? less information at the expense of having to look it up somewhere? |
| 23:31.40 | Amadeo | It's kinda silly that he's killable! |
| 23:31.43 | Xinhuan | nope charon |
| 23:31.57 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, in the beta there was a language learning system |
| 23:31.58 | Nandini | kinda silly that WE are killable and come back as spirits and resurrect for that matter |
| 23:32.00 | charon | then, WTB FuBar_CoffeeFu |
| 23:32.09 | Xinhuan | well you can't adhere to the lore too strictly... or the game would suffer at its expense |
| 23:32.10 | sag_ich_nicht | you could learn draconic and abyssal and what not :O |
| 23:32.15 | Nandini | if thrall can die and come back, so can i! |
| 23:32.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i remember leveling my warlock in the beta |
| 23:32.22 | Thrae | Speaking of video, has anyone had any problems recently with older Asus SLI boards and getting "Device cannot start" with Nvidia cards (especially running SLI)? |
| 23:32.25 | Thrae | I've been having to all kinds of crazy shit to get my Nvidia cards working, and I haven't been able to get it working in SLI anymore with my dual Leadtek 6600GTs. |
| 23:32.34 | sag_ich_nicht | and my imp would cuss and swear around |
| 23:32.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ant at first i couldn't understand any of it, then parts of it, then all of it |
| 23:32.47 | sag_ich_nicht | it was awesome :O |
| 23:32.48 | sag_ich_nicht | *and |
| 23:32.58 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB that back |
| 23:33.27 | Diao | friend of mine has trouble with her 6600gt |
| 23:33.28 | Xinhuan | if you want to hear REAL cussing, you put curse on tongues on Nefarian. |
| 23:33.34 | Diao | the environment and building |
| 23:33.34 | Diao | s |
| 23:33.39 | Diao | keep disappearing randomly |
| 23:33.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan lol |
| 23:33.42 | Xinhuan | and when Nefarian starts to yell strangely and your boss mods can't pick up what class call it is |
| 23:33.48 | Xinhuan | that's when the swearing comes |
| 23:34.04 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46728 10Record/ (. Record.lua Record.toc): Record - Initial Commit - Not Usable yet but hopefully will record and play back player positions w/ simple tracking of stats (Health, Mana, DPS) |
| 23:34.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Cryect is that what i think it is? |
| 23:34.44 | Cryect | What do you think it is? |
| 23:34.56 | sag_ich_nicht | a good use of GPSLib? :P |
| 23:34.58 | Nandini | GPSLib combined with deathwatch |
| 23:34.59 | Xinhuan | what does it mean by "play back player positions"? |
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| 23:35.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Cryect i assume everyone will need it to work properly? |
| 23:35.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan think visual combat log, if i catch the drift correctly :O |
| 23:35.51 | Cryect | it means two things either show an icon moving around representing player positions or a curved line showing their movements |
| 23:36.04 | Cryect | basically you will see on a map how players moved |
| 23:36.11 | Xinhuan | would this work in an instance? |
| 23:36.14 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 23:36.15 | Cryect | they will just need GPSLib for it to work |
| 23:36.22 | sag_ich_nicht | nice nice |
| 23:36.33 | Cryect | GPSLib handles (I think) syncing with others its not actually tested :-p |
| 23:36.35 | sag_ich_nicht | will this take into account mobs if you have a hunter using tracking? |
| 23:36.39 | Xinhuan | but everyone needs the addon installed, you can't track someone else? |
| 23:36.43 | Cryect | Unfortunately no |
| 23:36.51 | Cryect | They just need GPSLib installed |
| 23:37.04 | Xinhuan | hmm could be useful |
| 23:37.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:36] <sag_ich_nicht> will this take into account mobs if you have a hunter using tracking? |
| 23:37.08 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 23:37.13 | Cryect | it can't |
| 23:37.16 | sag_ich_nicht | damn |
| 23:37.26 | Xinhuan | have you considered waiting for patch 2.4 changes first though? |
| 23:37.30 | Cryect | but.. you can look where your tank is |
| 23:37.37 | Cryect | waiting for 2.4 patch changes for what? |
| 23:37.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Cryect true enough |
| 23:37.48 | Xinhuan | for their combat log changes |
| 23:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan they still won't give you mob coords. |
| 23:38.01 | Cryect | the combat log changes won't add anything |
| 23:38.05 | sag_ich_nicht | or player coords in an instance, for that matter |
| 23:38.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i <3 raid stalking addons :O |
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| 23:41.03 | Xinhuan | its not exactly raid stalking if it needs everyone to install an addon or library - since that would indicate that person is willingly sharing his data |
| 23:41.22 | Nandini | the only new information this presents is positional |
| 23:41.53 | Cryect | well it also sync orientation but close enough :-p |
| 23:41.57 | Nandini | which is really the one thing that's immediately visually obvious to everyone anyway, i can't imagine anyone not wanting to share it |
| 23:42.14 | Xinhuan | does GPSLib handle Z-axis? or only X-Y |
| 23:42.22 | Cryect | only x y |
| 23:42.30 | Cryect | no way to get z I know of via api |
| 23:42.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan you will have to annoy Shirik for z axis |
| 23:42.36 | Nandini | 3d minimap! |
| 23:42.41 | Nandini | 3d pings! |
| 23:42.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ther is a trick to get z axis. |
| 23:42.55 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 23:42.57 | sag_ich_nicht | actually not |
| 23:43.04 | Xinhuan | how? heh |
| 23:43.15 | sag_ich_nicht | but you can get the attack vector when using a flying mount using trigonometry |
| 23:43.29 | Xinhuan | err i'm lost |
| 23:43.31 | Xinhuan | english please |
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| 23:43.34 | Cryect | thats real useful all those instances with flying mounts :-p |
| 23:43.36 | Nandini | assuming you are flying full speed |
| 23:43.50 | Cryect | that gives you a z delta |
| 23:44.06 | Xinhuan | that only gives you a vector - not a position |
| 23:44.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Nandini well duh. you can't fly NOT full speed, unless you get some slowing buff or something |
| 23:44.09 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 23:44.33 | Nandini | i get hamstringed all the time flying around in skettis |
| 23:44.40 | Nandini | of course i'm a druid |
| 23:44.42 | sag_ich_nicht | you get z delta, speed=time*distance, divide by time and you have your damn z axis. |
| 23:44.50 | Nandini | maybe that doesn't happen to ppl on normal flying mounts |
| 23:44.53 | Mudkips | then divide by zero |
| 23:45.04 | Mudkips | voooooooooooooooooooooooooom @@ |
| 23:45.06 | sag_ich_nicht | only works outdoors and while on a flying mount tho |
| 23:45.09 | Cryect | yeah but no way to calibrate for reference |
| 23:45.20 | Xinhuan | sag: that only gives you the "change in Z" but not your actual Z value - you have to start with a initial Z value |
| 23:45.21 | Cryect | Well... |
| 23:45.22 | sag_ich_nicht | well it's BETTER THAN NOTHING :P |
| 23:45.26 | Cryect | when you are going up a ramp |
| 23:45.38 | Cryect | do you go slower or is it always same horizontal speed |
| 23:45.48 | Xinhuan | same horizontal speed |
| 23:45.51 | Nandini | when you're "walking" it's the same |
| 23:46.02 | sag_ich_nicht | you go the same speed but it takes you longer because it's more distance than straight walking, duh |
| 23:46.11 | Amadeo | I didn't think flying mounts could be slowed or stopped in any way |
| 23:46.12 | sag_ich_nicht | thus you can get the same even while on the ground, actually. |
| 23:46.20 | Cryect | they can if there is a mob! |
| 23:46.24 | Amadeo | I've tried stuff on PTR and it always says "immune" |
| 23:46.26 | Nandini | druid flight form can be stunned, slowed |
| 23:46.27 | Amadeo | oh, so mobs only? |
| 23:46.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ...spellsteal mountbuff. i wonder if that'd work. |
| 23:47.06 | Amadeo | lol |
| 23:47.07 | Nandini | it's not a "magic" buff so no |
| 23:47.14 | Amadeo | That would be great |
| 23:47.16 | Amadeo | Mage turns into a bird |
| 23:47.25 | Nandini | or worse, into a BEAR |
| 23:47.28 | Amadeo | haha |
| 23:47.30 | Xinhuan | sag: i'm pretty certain that when running up/down a slope |
| 23:47.39 | Xinhuan | your speed on the X-Y plane is still 100% |
| 23:47.41 | Amadeo | I still want to level a Druid up one day |
| 23:47.44 | SaladFork | I had a Bear Sorceress in D2 |
| 23:47.46 | Xinhuan | ie you move a bigger distance |
| 23:47.51 | Nandini | yes you have constant 2D speed when you're on the ground |
| 23:48.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan your SPEED, but you move a bigger distance, thus you are going to take longer seeing from a top down perspective |
| 23:48.16 | Nandini | so counting the z delta, you're moving faster than if you were flying the corresponding speed |
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| 23:48.37 | Xinhuan | no sag |
| 23:48.39 | sag_ich_nicht | if this is the case it would make no sense, please verify this |
| 23:48.55 | Xinhuan | your top-down perspective is always 100% no matter what angle the slope is at |
| 23:49.00 | Cryect | you can use something like monkey speed etc |
| 23:49.09 | Cryect | and pretty sure I saw constant speed always |
| 23:49.11 | Xinhuan | meaning you traverse a larger X-Y-Z distance |
| 23:49.19 | Xinhuan | on a 45% slope |
| 23:49.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ...someone post this on the forums, that's dumb D: |
| 23:49.30 | Xinhuan | i used both titan speed and fubar_speed |
| 23:49.36 | Xinhuan | and monkey speed |
| 23:49.39 | sag_ich_nicht | okay i trust you |
| 23:49.45 | Nandini | devs are aware of it, it's intentional |
| 23:49.52 | sag_ich_nicht | geez it's not good D: |
| 23:49.54 | Xinhuan | they work by taking your X-Y map coordinate |
| 23:50.05 | Coruss | !ar 1400 |
| 23:50.06 | ThraeBot | Coruss: Arena rating from 1400 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 0, 5v5: 2790 |
| 23:50.11 | Xinhuan | the map you get when you press M that is |
| 23:50.14 | Coruss | !ap 1400 |
| 23:50.15 | ThraeBot | Coruss: Arena points from a rating of 1400 is, 2v2: 236, 3v3: 270, 5v5: 338 |
| 23:50.20 | Cryect | haha wtf at the first one |
| 23:50.30 | Coruss | lol, hit the wrong command |
| 23:50.39 | Nandini | when you are are on the ground, they only calculate the delta x delta y when moving |
| 23:50.45 | Nandini | your z is determined by the terrain height |
| 23:51.24 | Xinhuan | ya - if you go to a high place and jump off - the addon will still tell you you are moving at 100% until you splat on the bottom :) |
| 23:52.04 | Coruss | how long are the arena seasons? |
| 23:52.05 | Nandini | that's why you can jump so far with slow fall |
| 23:52.14 | Nandini | they last until they decide it's time for a new season |
| 23:52.32 | Xinhuan | Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal is also the only mount you can mount up while dropping in the air ;p |
| 23:52.45 | Nandini | it's instant cast? |
| 23:52.46 | Xinhuan | every other mount gives you a "Can't do that while moving" error |
| 23:52.53 | Cryect | Its fixed 2.2 |
| 23:53.05 | Cryect | you can also mount up on it and cast a spell |
| 23:53.09 | Cryect | before mounted |
| 23:53.18 | Xinhuan | but the legendary mount can be casted anywhere - gives you a castbar - except it doesn't mount you if you're in a place that doesn't allow you to do so |
| 23:53.49 | Xinhuan | Cryect - don't listen to others ;p |
| 23:53.58 | Cryect | don't listen to the patch notes? |
| 23:53.59 | Xinhuan | i've never been able to cast any spell while casting the legendary mount |
| 23:54.12 | Xinhuan | "another action is in progress" |
| 23:54.27 | Cryect | did you move while casting to "interrupt" the casting |
| 23:54.40 | Xinhuan | moving while casting to interrupt the casting - will interrupt the whole mount cast |
| 23:54.51 | Nandini | hmm i wonder if spells with 'travel time' put you in combat before they actually hit |
| 23:54.52 | Xinhuan | and generate a "Interrupted" error |
| 23:55.00 | Xinhuan | in the middle of the screen (on UIErrorsFrame) |
| 23:55.03 | Cryect | yes they do Nandini |
| 23:55.32 | Xinhuan | the only item/spell i know of that allows you to cast something else while it is casting - is the durbolg rod of transformation |
| 23:55.37 | Xinhuan | furbolg* |
| 23:56.10 | Mudkips | now that would be a cool class ability, double casting |
| 23:56.58 | Nandini | it will prolly be a 51 point talent for locks |
| 23:57.13 | Nandini | so they can instacast 3 dots on you and then hit you with 3 shadowbolts at the same time right after |
| 23:58.00 | Nandini | or maybe for the eventual mage hero class |
| 23:58.00 | Xinhuan | well i'm just saying the patch notes is wrong about that mount ;p |
| 23:58.29 | Nandini | triple AP pom pyro crit |
| 23:59.05 | Cryect | prolly a trick to it Xinhuan |
| 23:59.19 | Xinhuan | perhaps |
| 23:59.33 | Xinhuan | but if there's a trick to it, i haven't discovered it after 1.5 years ~_~ |
