| 00:00.09 | Coruss | it's a simple one, just to try writing an addon |
| 00:00.52 | Coruss | if it can be done, it'll be a way to take an itemlink and copy/paste it's name into a textfield |
| 00:01.41 | Coruss | it may not be possible as I envision it, but we'll see |
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| 00:01.49 | Coruss | anyways, cya tomorrow folks |
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| 00:09.16 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r45953 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - bugfix to PvPRank |
| 00:09.23 | Hjalte | ckknight, ill update and tell you if i find a mob that interrupts me again :) |
| 00:09.32 | ckknight | thanks |
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| 00:11.15 | Hjalte | ckknight, any updates on the leveling guide someone was going to make using cartographer? |
| 00:13.00 | Funkeh` | later folks |
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| 00:13.36 | Kaelten | importing dump |
| 00:13.36 | Kaelten | :s |
| 00:13.38 | Kaelten | taking forever |
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| 00:18.42 | CIA-23 | 03kergoth * r45954 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Zereketh.lua: LittleWigs: Tempest Keep: It's 'incoming', not 'incomimg'. :) |
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| 00:29.17 | Kaelten | ok... forums and wiki are back up |
| 00:30.06 | Dustwhisper- | what is the most accurate time you can get ? is it GetTime() or time() ? for calculating time passed between 2 events |
| 00:30.32 | Kaelten | time is in seconds I think |
| 00:31.11 | Wobwork | GetTime is in miliseconds I believe? |
| 00:31.25 | Kaelten | it might be |
| 00:31.28 | Kaelten | I know there is one that does |
| 00:31.35 | Kaelten | bug debugprofile functions would be the best |
| 00:31.36 | cladhaire | debugprofilestart() and debugprofilestop() are the best |
| 00:31.53 | Kaelten | cladhaire: :P |
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| 00:32.12 | Dustwhisper- | well i want to calculate an accurate time between each time one of my casts hit |
| 00:32.15 | Dustwhisper- | ior anyone elses |
| 00:32.24 | Dustwhisper- | so i dont think debugprofile would be a viable option =D |
| 00:32.54 | Wid`isterrlbe | Quick question: After installing Pitbull today my buffs and debuffs have disapeared from the default upper right area, wtb help |
| 00:32.55 | Thrae | Wobwork: If GetTime is a reference to the tick count, then it'll be in milliseconds. But I think we also have access to os.clock and os.time, which also return seconds.milliseconds. |
| 00:33.22 | Dustwhisper- | hmm GetTime i guess then |
| 00:33.51 | Gagorian | Yes GetTime is in ms |
| 00:35.58 | Wid`isterrlbe | No one? =( |
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| 00:42.42 | Kaelten | Hostnamefiles.wowace.com () |
| 00:42.42 | Kaelten | Uptime2 days 14 hours 11 min 23 s |
| 00:42.42 | Kaelten | Started at2007-08-05 06:30:38 |
| 00:42.43 | Kaelten | absolute (since start) |
| 00:42.43 | Kaelten | Requests2 Mreq |
| 00:42.43 | Kaelten | Traffic401.53 Gbyte |
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| 00:46.25 | Amadeo | 400gb in two days? lol |
| 00:47.15 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 00:47.17 | Kaelten | not to shabby |
| 00:50.51 | ckknight | Hjalte: http://zygorguides.com/ |
| 00:51.14 | Gngsk | Information dots, zomg! |
| 00:51.47 | vputz_ | Curiously, I can't find a "how do I get my addon to show up in WAU" topic on the wiki; even assuming I haven't looked hard enough, any trick to it once it's in SVN? Make a ziplist.wau? More? |
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| 00:53.20 | ccKep | anyone raiding BT here? just want to know how loot is handled in reliquary encounter.. does each essence drop it's own loot? only last essence? cache somewhere? |
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| 00:55.09 | Wobwork | grr |
| 00:55.13 | Wobwork | worst phone banking ever |
| 00:55.59 | Wobwork | Operator: Sir, do you have your 10 digit personal Id number? |
| 00:55.59 | Wobwork | Wobin: sure, 1234567890 |
| 00:55.59 | Wobwork | Operator: Okay, do you have your 6 digit telephone banking password? |
| 00:55.59 | Wobwork | Wobin: yep, 123456 |
| 00:55.59 | Wobwork | Operator: Oh I'm sorry sir, you weren't meant to say that outloud, I have to get you to enter it into our automated service, do youwant to change your pin number now that you've said it out loud? |
| 00:56.16 | Wobwork | ffs =P |
| 00:56.46 | sb | lol |
| 00:57.02 | Megalon | you personal id matches you password |
| 00:57.04 | Megalon | that's bad! |
| 00:57.18 | Wobwork | That's alright |
| 00:57.21 | Megalon | your ;s |
| 00:57.22 | Megalon | ;D |
| 00:57.24 | Wobwork | I use the same password for my luggage |
| 00:57.49 | Megalon | makes it easier to remind? :P |
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| 00:58.21 | Wobwork | http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=KE-DASKEYBOARD&input[category_id]=1275 |
| 00:58.25 | Wobwork | is now in stock again |
| 00:58.42 | Wobwork | on the one hand, I want to buy it cause, hey cool |
| 00:58.50 | Wobwork | on the other, that's a lot of money for a keyboard |
| 01:00.15 | Dustwhisper- | Always wanted one of those |
| 01:00.24 | Wobwork | yeah, see? Cool =) |
| 01:02.47 | Chompers | Seal of Vengeance is such an amazing talent |
| 01:03.08 | Chompers | using SoC for 40 levels...then this |
| 01:03.10 | Chompers | wow |
| 01:03.46 | NeoTron | so to me it seems seal of righteousness > SoV |
| 01:04.09 | NeoTron | on normal mobs that die fast. on things that die slower (elites / bosses maybe) I suspect SoV has the edge |
| 01:04.20 | NeoTron | but it just takes too long to apply 5 stacks in the average case |
| 01:05.10 | ccKep | man, reliquary encounter sounds soooo sick |
| 01:05.25 | ccKep | essence of desire stuff I mean |
| 01:05.33 | NeoTron | haven't ven looked at those encounters yet, so far away. le sigh |
| 01:05.48 | Gagorian | ccKep: It's a relatively fun fight |
| 01:05.57 | NeoTron | we lost about 2 weeks of progression due to one MT being absent (and other key players benig partially absent) |
| 01:06.07 | Gagorian | Too bad casters aren't that good on it |
| 01:06.23 | ccKep | Gagorian: essence of desire doesn't sound "fun" for me as a healer |
| 01:06.49 | ccKep | wipe if tank doesn't spell reflect deaden? wipe if spirit shock interruption fails? ^.^ |
| 01:07.05 | ccKep | having to kick a 1 sec. cast every 5 secs.... guess my guild needs a LONG time for this |
| 01:07.33 | Gagorian | ccKep: Well, the biggest problem was actually not kicking deadens too. |
| 01:07.41 | Kaelten | bbiab |
| 01:07.46 | Gagorian | Not enough DPS if you interrupt em |
| 01:07.59 | Gagorian | A few spirit shocks can get through |
| 01:08.01 | Gagorian | Usually |
| 01:08.10 | NeoTron | Whoha, phase 1 removes all healing effects? |
| 01:08.23 | Gagorian | Yeah, but he does shit damage. |
| 01:08.35 | Gagorian | All classes can tank him for a while (and have to) |
| 01:08.48 | NeoTron | holy wow |
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| 01:10.10 | ccKep | NeoTron: wait till you read phase2 |
| 01:10.15 | ccKep | it just reads SICK |
| 01:10.21 | Grauw | hi, question about Omen: you had to have KTM installed in the past to send threat data to KTM user, but I think in recent versions I’ve seen an option to send threat data to KTM as well? Am I interpreting that option correctly and can I remove KTM now? |
| 01:10.41 | Wobwork | yes |
| 01:10.47 | Grauw | nice |
| 01:10.57 | Grauw | thanks, that’s what I wanted to know :) |
| 01:11.34 | Gagorian | ccKep: People can kill themselves rather easily when critting 13k two times in a row :p |
| 01:11.47 | Wobwork | but it's so worth it |
| 01:11.59 | Wobwork | for the OMG213kcritsinarowomgomgomg |
| 01:12.02 | ccKep | Gagorian: does phase3 cast Seethe on the maintank too at the pull? |
| 01:12.21 | NeoTron | pretty nifty encounter |
| 01:12.29 | Gagorian | ccKep: Nope |
| 01:12.55 | ccKep | so, have another person have pull aggro and let the maintank taunt or something? |
| 01:13.05 | Gagorian | Nah, he gets 100% attack speed buff |
| 01:13.09 | Gagorian | Not worth getting that |
| 01:13.15 | Grauw | I'll change the note about KTM on the Omen wiki page |
| 01:13.23 | Gagorian | So beartonk ftw |
| 01:13.46 | Gagorian | I critted a bit under 15k shadowbolts there |
| 01:13.53 | Gagorian | So pretty sick threat |
| 01:13.59 | NeoTron | man another fight where resto shamans rule |
| 01:14.12 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 01:14.13 | Wobwork | beartonk |
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| 01:24.27 | ccKep | Gagorian: does rogue evasion-tank work for the enrages of phase1? |
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| 01:28.44 | Gagorian | ccKep: Yeah, that's what we use |
| 01:29.05 | Dustwhisper- | that's what we use for hydross pull =D |
| 01:29.11 | Dustwhisper- | and on maulgar priest |
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| 01:30.28 | ccKep | invis pots for hydross here ^.^ |
| 01:31.42 | Dustwhisper- | i really wanna try arcane spec in the future |
| 01:32.24 | Xinhuan | i am arcane specced ;p |
| 01:32.31 | Dustwhisper- | been checking WWS of certain good DPS fights like lurker, void reaver, and even al'ar |
| 01:32.39 | Dustwhisper- | all the top DPS i see from mages is arcane |
| 01:33.06 | Dustwhisper- | especially one mage hitting 1200-1300 dps |
| 01:33.09 | Dustwhisper- | but he has sick gear though |
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| 01:35.31 | Gagorian | Dustwhisper-: This generally our best mage on fights like teron gorefiend http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Al'Akir&n=Diebi |
| 01:36.08 | xon | hi. I'm a bit new to the whole SVN idea, and I'm trying to upload my addon. got a really dumb question: |
| 01:36.44 | xon | when I'm ready to release it to the world, I upload to svn.wowace.com/wowace, correct? |
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| 01:37.45 | Gagorian | xon: dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AddonName |
| 01:37.56 | ulic | yes, you'll need to get an svn account first if you don't have one. |
| 01:38.06 | xon | got one of those :) |
| 01:38.18 | xon | so it's dev.wowace.com or svn.wowace.com? |
| 01:38.21 | Gagorian | dev |
| 01:38.32 | xon | k |
| 01:38.37 | xon | thanks |
| 01:39.17 | Thrae | xon: svn.wowace.com == read-only, dev.wowace.com == developer access |
| 01:39.26 | CIA-23 | 03xonpathos * r45955 10SellJunk/ (. SellJunk.lua SellJunk.toc SellJunk.xml libs/ readme.txt): SellJunk: initial commit |
| 01:42.27 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45956 10Recount/ (Sync.lua Tracker.lua healbuffs.lua): Recount - Temp bug fix till I have a chance for a proper bug fix |
| 01:43.15 | CIA-23 | 03xonpathos * r45957 10SellJunk/: |
| 01:43.15 | CIA-23 | SellJunk: |
| 01:43.15 | CIA-23 | - added externals. |
| 01:45.59 | Dustwhisper- | hmm nice Gagorian |
| 01:46.04 | Dustwhisper- | slightly better than my gear i suppose |
| 01:48.13 | xon | erm... another question: I just downloaded the thing from files.wowace.com, and the externals weren't included in the zip. was that supposed to happen? |
| 01:48.19 | Pkekyo | what's the range of Charge? |
| 01:48.34 | jme | 8-25 yards iirc |
| 01:48.39 | jme | maybe 8-35 yards |
| 01:49.00 | jme | i think auto shot (hunters) is 8-35, so it's probably 8-25 |
| 01:49.20 | ulic | xon: the zips only get generated every like 20m, so possibly it only generated off you first commit but not your second yet. |
| 01:49.23 | Megalon | charge is 8-25 |
| 01:49.27 | jme | any hunters here in full s2 gear? |
| 01:49.46 | xon | oh, I see. |
| 01:49.51 | xon | makes sense. |
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| 01:50.53 | ccKep | http://files.wowace.com/SellJunk/ <<< r45955, so no auto generated zip for your second commit yet ;) |
| 01:52.31 | xon | heh, might help to note revision numbers, I guess :) |
| 01:52.52 | pingdashf | Howdy all. I'm working on my first Ace2 plugin. |
| 01:53.30 | pingdashf | Y'all get that alot? |
| 01:53.59 | Xuerian | A decent amount. |
| 01:54.18 | pingdashf | Guess that's good. Let see if I'm one of the ones to stick around to make a decent contribution. |
| 01:54.42 | Xuerian | Watched with a measure of interest, skepticism, and snipey comments. ... Well, that's me. Everyone else is usually supported. |
| 01:54.48 | Xuerian | s/supported/supportive/ |
| 01:56.19 | xon | ok, gotta go. thanks for the help all! |
| 01:57.14 | ckknight | what is with the huge influx of new authors today? |
| 01:57.31 | Xuerian | They saw the photo shoot. |
| 01:57.40 | Xuerian | And wanted to be cool sandal-wearing slackers oto. |
| 01:57.43 | ckknight | and I wonder how many of their hearts will be broken once Ace3 is released |
| 01:57.49 | Xuerian | Gosh darnit... "Too" |
| 01:58.15 | Xuerian | You forgot "Pretty little" |
| 01:59.01 | ccKep | guess I'm done when ace3 is ready |
| 01:59.07 | pingdashf | Is Ace3 something new authors should be aware of? |
| 01:59.21 | ckknight | no |
| 01:59.26 | ckknight | don't worry about it for now |
| 01:59.26 | Xuerian | No, It's something you live in fear of |
| 01:59.34 | Xuerian | Don't quite know what it is |
| 01:59.53 | Xuerian | Don't know what it's going to do to you, or your pretty little code (See, THAT is usage.) |
| 02:00.01 | Xuerian | Just know it's there... Looming from ck's fingertips. |
| 02:00.12 | kenlyric | I would suspect it's related to wow 3.0, since ace2 is already perfect. ;) |
| 02:00.37 | Xuerian | Shush with the logic, kenlyric! It ruins the theatric effect! >.o |
| 02:00.43 | Megalon | Joker is the final boss in WotLK? |
| 02:00.58 | ulic | I thought it was Penguin? |
| 02:01.32 | Aenslaed | was a new library added to omen? |
| 02:01.34 | Megalon | northrend |
| 02:01.39 | Aenslaed | err, threat |
| 02:01.42 | Megalon | nice place for the penguin, indeed |
| 02:02.06 | Megalon | or Freeza! |
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| 02:02.49 | ulic | yea I didn't really plan that into my joke, I just kind of stumbled there :P |
| 02:03.53 | harldephin | it's a joke stumbler o.o |
| 02:04.51 | ulic | sometime I carefully plan them, other time they just happen |
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| 02:06.33 | ccKep | [Ammo]: you there? |
| 02:11.19 | Aenslaed | hum, something I upgraded just broke most of my addons |
| 02:11.38 | Aenslaed | only library reference is specialevents-aura2.0 |
| 02:11.58 | Aenslaed | in bugsack that is |
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| 02:17.10 | Ominous | `000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 02:17.11 | Ominous | 00000000000000 |
| 02:17.11 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.13 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.15 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.19 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.25 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.29 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.30 | dylanm | Huh |
| 02:17.31 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.33 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.34 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 02:17.34 | weab | fun |
| 02:17.35 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.37 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.39 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.43 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.43 | NightHawkTheSane | .. |
| 02:17.44 | Xuerian | mash keys much? |
| 02:17.45 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.49 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.55 | dylanm | Script gone bad? |
| 02:17.55 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.57 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:17.57 | cogwheel | Cat perhaps? |
| 02:17.59 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.02 | Arrowmaster | somebody +q him |
| 02:18.03 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.03 | NightHawkTheSane | too regular for a cat. |
| 02:18.04 | Xuerian | kick him and let him rejoin? |
| 02:18.05 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.09 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.09 | cogwheel | Tem: ckknight kergoth ping |
| 02:18.11 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.15 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.17 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.19 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.21 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.25 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.27 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.29 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.31 | NightHawkTheSane | [Ammo]: ping? |
| 02:18.33 | Ominous | 0 |
| 02:18.39 | Ominous | lol |
| 02:18.43 | Ominous | im ominous' friend, he just fell asleep on the keyboard :P |
| 02:18.48 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 02:18.52 | NightHawkTheSane | awesome. |
| 02:18.57 | Arrowmaster | pics pls |
| 02:19.01 | Xuerian | rofl |
| 02:19.01 | CIA-23 | 03next96 * r45958 10Violation/Other/Dispel.lua: |
| 02:19.01 | CIA-23 | Violation: |
| 02:19.01 | CIA-23 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:19.09 | Xuerian | Even better than cat XD |
| 02:20.34 | Ominous | eurgh, sorry about the spam |
| 02:20.36 | Megalon | screenshot or it didn't happen!11 |
| 02:20.54 | Ominous | im off to sleep |
| 02:20.58 | Xuerian | *again |
| 02:20.59 | Megalon | ;D |
| 02:21.17 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 02:21.31 | Ominous | sigh |
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| 02:23.53 | cogwheel | http://bash.org/?793182 (if it ever gets approved) :P |
| 02:24.18 | Xuerian | lol |
| 02:24.45 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45959 10RangeDisplay/localization-frFR.lua: RangeDisplay: Fixed localization frFR |
| 02:25.24 | Shirik | omg |
| 02:25.26 | Shirik | awesome. |
| 02:25.41 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 02:26.01 | Shirik | cogwheel: Did you include the timestamps? The fact that it's exactly every 2 seconds totally completes it |
| 02:26.30 | NightHawkTheSane | what I want to know is how it was so precisely regular. :P |
| 02:26.34 | cogwheel | it removes timestamps :( |
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| 02:26.53 | Shirik | automatically? since when? |
| 02:26.58 | Megalon | breathing movements perhaps |
| 02:27.05 | Xuerian | Timestamps that aren't automatically removed fail the thing anyway, don't they? |
| 02:27.08 | Xuerian | Megalon: Throttle |
| 02:27.18 | cogwheel | Xuerian: yep |
| 02:27.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Megalon: thats what i figure, still its a bit weird. |
| 02:27.41 | Megalon | or flood control :> |
| 02:27.44 | Shirik | I thought the rule was that the timestamp could be allowed if it were necessary or not annoying |
| 02:27.52 | Shirik | s/annoying/excessive/ |
| 02:28.07 | Shirik | but when's the last time I paid attention to that anyway >< |
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| 02:34.58 | aen` | what is the TPS column for omen? |
| 02:35.12 | etip | threat per second |
| 02:38.11 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, how hard would it be for me to track coin looted via pickpocket |
| 02:39.05 | Pkekyo | holy shit...I've been awake all night |
| 02:40.48 | ccKep | Pkekyo: does that mean incoming 0's ? :o |
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| 02:41.38 | CIA-23 | 03next96 * r45960 10Assessment/Modules/CrowdControl.lua: |
| 02:41.38 | CIA-23 | Assessment : |
| 02:41.38 | CIA-23 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:43.45 | Borked|Raider | UnitAffectingCombat(uid) dos the api works on ect party1target? (if its a enemy player in a arena)? |
| 02:44.15 | ccKep | should |
| 02:44.19 | Borked|Raider | lol |
| 02:44.30 | Borked|Raider | thats like nice for spotting one going for drinking |
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| 02:44.47 | ccKep | actually, I don't know if it works for players |
| 02:46.23 | ccKep | you could check in a duel I think |
| 02:47.35 | Borked|Raider | ye gonna do that |
| 03:01.33 | aen` | is there a way to get rid of the version info on the footer of omen? |
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| 03:02.45 | ckknight | kenlyric: lol, Ace2's not perfect |
| 03:02.54 | ckknight | thus the need for another version |
| 03:02.57 | kenlyric | woah, delay |
| 03:03.09 | ckknight | I was busy |
| 03:03.46 | Wobwork | You have to wonder |
| 03:03.54 | Wobwork | with the slow speed of bash.org updates |
| 03:03.57 | kenlyric | isn't the entire mod system going through a major overhaul in 3.0? |
| 03:04.05 | Wobwork | just -how- much utter crap is getting filtered =P |
| 03:04.45 | kenlyric | the mod forum at blizzcon video bored me beyond all measure, so I only got bits and pieces. |
| 03:05.21 | kenlyric | 30 minutes of slides of code made me sleepy |
| 03:06.07 | ckknight | kenlyric: you mean WotLK? |
| 03:06.10 | ckknight | or Ace 3.0? |
| 03:06.49 | Wobwork | wotlk I imagine |
| 03:06.50 | Borked|Raider | posible to make a macro that set target as focus and if no target is sellected it set my self as focus? |
| 03:06.51 | kenlyric | I mean wrath, yes. |
| 03:07.47 | Borked|Raider | so much looking forward to go over naxx again. best news ever |
| 03:08.06 | kenlyric | Borked|Raider: it seems like you should be able to fairly easily. |
| 03:08.14 | Borked|Raider | teach me |
| 03:09.16 | kenlyric | I'd have to look the syntax up on wowwiki, so I'll just let you do that. |
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| 03:09.52 | aen` | is there a way to get rid of the version info on the footer of omen? |
| 03:10.04 | kenlyric | actually, I can't say i've ever tried to set myself as target in a macro. |
| 03:10.09 | Borked|Raider | finaly got a workaround made for the problem about not to set a focus target from a function in some lua code. Hooking a onClick to my frame that run a macro that set the focus for me :P |
| 03:10.24 | kenlyric | but a simple conditional based on if you have a target or not seems like it would work. |
| 03:11.37 | Borked|Raider | building a focus window that i can just press for setting my target as focus with a mouse click, so would like to if no target sellected it just put me as focus so its not a emty window(aka i cant click it when i set a target) |
| 03:13.45 | ckknight | kenlyric: I don't think that there will be a major overhaul |
| 03:14.25 | copystring | anyone ever heard of this: MDFive-1.0? must be some lib required by loudmouth but i cant find that anywhere |
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| 03:16.10 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45961 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - make the lib name checker a little more lenient. |
| 03:18.17 | ccKep | dunno if that works or if it does what u want Borked|Raider: /focus [target=focus,exists] focus, [target=target,exists] target, player] |
| 03:18.18 | xyu | Does Teamsquaek work for ventrilo? |
| 03:18.25 | xyu | teamsqueak* |
| 03:18.36 | ccKep | dunno if focus takes an argument, and if so if its a unitid |
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| 03:19.13 | Borked|Raider | ccKep, will try it |
| 03:19.53 | Thrae | Borked|Raider: /setfocus [target=target,exists] target <return> /setfocus [target=none] player |
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| 03:21.05 | Borked|Raider | the first dint work, trying Thrae's |
| 03:21.46 | ccKep | /focus [target=target,exists] target, [noexists] player |
| 03:21.48 | ccKep | works for me |
| 03:22.08 | ccKep | can remove the target=target though |
| 03:22.19 | ccKep | so simply: /focus [exists] target, [noexists] player |
| 03:22.47 | Borked|Raider | ye the last one worked, ccKep |
| 03:23.05 | ccKep | hmhmhm, if I remove the target=target it stops working for me.. *shrug* |
| 03:23.10 | Borked|Raider | hehe |
| 03:24.32 | Borked|Raider | got a window now showing party and there target(with castbar), targettarget and when mouse4 click it set the target as focus. is it posible instead of target, it just set the mouseover as focus? |
| 03:24.56 | Thrae | Borked|Raider: Yes, just use "mouseover" as the unitid (instead of "target") |
| 03:25.32 | CIA-23 | 03zlovred * r45962 10AlchCheck/ (26 files in 8 dirs): |
| 03:25.32 | CIA-23 | AlchCheck |
| 03:25.32 | CIA-23 | - 1.0b version (text only) |
| 03:25.39 | Borked|Raider | well not that good at this macro stuff, and now it says like target 3 places in it. is it all 3 of them to mouseover instead? |
| 03:26.32 | Borked|Raider | ./focus [mouseover=mouseover,exists] mouseover, [noexists] player ? |
| 03:26.48 | ccKep | /focus target=mouseover, exists] mouseover, [noexists] player |
| 03:26.49 | ccKep | I guess |
| 03:26.50 | Thrae | Borked|Raider: Right |
| 03:26.53 | ccKep | +[ |
| 03:26.57 | ccKep | /focus [target=mouseover, exists] mouseover, [noexists] player |
| 03:27.01 | Borked|Raider | ahh |
| 03:27.19 | Thorgard^2 | !ap 1500 |
| 03:27.19 | ThraeBot | Thorgard^2: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 263, 3v3: 300, 5v5: 376 |
| 03:27.20 | ccKep | the target= stuff is only for the following conditional checks (exists, in this case) |
| 03:27.33 | Thrae | ccKep: target= checks what your target is set to I think |
| 03:27.40 | ccKep | nope |
| 03:27.52 | ccKep | thats the confusing stuff with it |
| 03:28.03 | ccKep | [target=mouseover,exists] actually checks if you are hovering a unit |
| 03:28.04 | Borked|Raider | anyway, working sweet now. |
| 03:28.17 | Borked|Raider | an assist window that set the clicked player as focus |
| 03:28.47 | Borked|Raider | PROTECTED FocusUnit("unit") - Sets your unit for focus. -- Protected with Patch 2.0! |
| 03:28.51 | Borked|Raider | owned blizzard |
| 03:29.01 | ccKep | "the target for the exist-check is mouseover" if you want it |
| 03:29.13 | Thrae | PerfectTargets can also show your focus, but the frame isn't clickable |
| 03:29.24 | Wobwork | oh that's an interesting implementation |
| 03:29.28 | Wobwork | re: TeamSqueak |
| 03:29.34 | Wobwork | and yes. it will work for vent |
| 03:29.36 | Thrae | Borked|Raider: That's because it now uses Secure frame attributes |
| 03:29.42 | Wobwork | cause all it does is check the push to talk key |
| 03:29.58 | Wobwork | and map it to broadcast the fact that you've got it pressed |
| 03:30.10 | Wobwork | so everyone else with Teamsqueak can see |
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| 03:30.28 | ccKep | Borked|Raider: whate function are you using to run your macro instead of FocusUnit() ? |
| 03:30.48 | ccKep | RunMacro is protected too, so I dont see the point :o |
| 03:31.19 | Borked|Raider | i am not sure tbh, its just in the rdx core code, so just making a macro in it and its running by mouse click |
| 03:31.33 | Borked|Raider | havent looked down in the code how it do it |
| 03:31.44 | ccKep | you should test your stuff in combat then ;) |
| 03:31.49 | ckknight | gotta use secure frames |
| 03:31.49 | Borked|Raider | :P |
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| 03:32.05 | Borked|Raider | well server just restarted, gonna see if it work in combat |
| 03:32.23 | Borked|Raider | if not it dont matter much, i just need it for setting a focus easy in a arena |
| 03:32.36 | Borked|Raider | and dont need to change it after we get in combat |
| 03:32.39 | ccKep | there is an addon out there |
| 03:32.46 | ccKep | which displays unit frames for your opponents |
| 03:32.57 | ccKep | once anyone in your team had them in target |
| 03:33.01 | ccKep | dunno how its called though |
| 03:34.04 | Borked|Raider | thats not posible, its when one from my team have it on target, when they stop targeting the enemy you cant get info from the united, as it just print em from party1target ect? so if it keep the window for the player, it wont update hp and such anyway after the target is dropped |
| 03:34.07 | ccKep | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ArenaMaster |
| 03:34.09 | ccKep | *shrug* |
| 03:34.32 | ccKep | sure, you can't get info if noone is targeting him |
| 03:34.56 | ccKep | but clicking the icon does TargetByName(enemy name) I think |
| 03:35.11 | Borked|Raider | hmm is that not protected? |
| 03:35.31 | Borked|Raider | dont think you can target an enemy from lua code ect |
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| 03:35.58 | ccKep | ah, it got removed |
| 03:36.07 | ccKep | in 2.0.1 |
| 03:36.19 | Borked|Raider | ye |
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| 03:36.27 | Borked|Raider | anyway, it work fine in combat my windows |
| 03:36.35 | ccKep | mkay |
| 03:36.46 | Thrae | You can still do TargetByName through Secure frames, just like you can do /target Golem to target the nearest mob with "Golem" in their name |
| 03:37.00 | ccKep | wowwiki says TargetByName was removed in 2.0.1 |
| 03:37.06 | ccKep | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ArenaMaster |
| 03:37.08 | ccKep | dohg |
| 03:37.10 | ccKep | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TargetByName |
| 03:37.12 | Amadeo | Golem!? |
| 03:37.18 | Amadeo | My precious! |
| 03:37.28 | Amadeo | Yeah, I know, I know |
| 03:37.35 | Borked|Raider | well you cant make a secure frame of a enemy that no one have target over |
| 03:37.36 | Borked|Raider | on |
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| 03:42.17 | Borked|Raider | www.borkedguild.net/movies/setfocus.wmv |
| 03:42.27 | Borked|Raider | little movie of how it work |
| 03:42.46 | Borked|Raider | just ignor all the other stuff on the screen tho |
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| 03:44.36 | Amadeo | haha |
| 03:44.44 | Amadeo | is Foror's Crate of Endless Resist Gear Storage even real? |
| 03:44.51 | Amadeo | or just made for PTR? |
| 03:45.07 | Borked|Raider | properly for ptr :PP |
| 03:45.15 | Thrae | !i Foror's Crate of Endless Resist Gear Storage |
| 03:46.00 | Amadeo | they're 36 slot bags |
| 03:46.01 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 03:46.31 | Thrae | They might be for live if all they do is hold armour |
| 03:46.49 | Arrowmaster | it holds everything |
| 03:46.49 | NightHawkTheSane | man, a 36 slot bag for armor would be total sex. |
| 03:47.02 | Borked|Raider | well those 36slot bags or crate was on the lates ptr |
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| 03:47.09 | Arrowmaster | it was actually in the naxx ptr i think |
| 03:47.14 | Amadeo | Thrae: They hold everything afaik |
| 03:47.15 | ccKep | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23162 |
| 03:47.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine it's just a ptr thing |
| 03:47.24 | Thrae | !i 23162 |
| 03:47.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah check out the itemid, low enough to be from naxx ptr |
| 03:47.36 | Thrae | !i 2662 |
| 03:47.38 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Ribbly's Quiver; Rarity: Green; BoP; Unique; Slots: 16; Requires L50; Equip: Increases ranged attack speed by 14%.; Drops off: Ribbly Screwspigot (Blackrock Depths); Drop Rate: Medium. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2662 ]] |
| 03:47.45 | Thrae | Well that's working |
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| 03:48.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: does the bot do any caching of data? |
| 03:48.33 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: For items, yes |
| 03:48.45 | NightHawkTheSane | not characters or other data then? |
| 03:49.11 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: It'll cache characters for ~30 minutes |
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| 03:49.24 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 03:49.52 | Borked|Raider | UnitAffectingCombat(uid) gonna be totaly sweet if that also works on pvp targets |
| 03:50.07 | Arrowmaster | it should |
| 03:51.50 | ccKep | !i 17782 |
| 03:51.57 | ccKep | guess he's a bit lazy ;) |
| 03:52.01 | Borked|Raider | only minus is that i only have track over people whos on one of my 4 teammates target. |
| 03:52.23 | Borked|Raider | they should make it posible to go like party1focus :P |
| 03:52.29 | ccKep | Borked|Raider: same with ArenaMaster :o |
| 03:52.33 | Thorgard^2 | !ap 1414 |
| 03:52.34 | ThraeBot | Thorgard^2: Arena points from a rating of 1414 is, 2v2: 240, 3v3: 274, 5v5: 343 |
| 03:52.44 | Borked|Raider | ye ccKep |
| 03:53.05 | Borked|Raider | ccKep, but my frame is configable and much better :PPPP |
| 03:53.29 | Borked|Raider | but ye it properly do the same, i just do it my self ot be better at it :) |
| 03:54.35 | ccKep | off-topic question: I guess you're using secure frame templates there... so you should actually be able to do SetFocus() aswell? |
| 03:55.09 | ccKep | (or how its called) |
| 03:55.44 | ccKep | FocusUnit() I mean |
| 03:56.11 | Borked|Raider | dont know, thats what protected means? i belived it was something like blocked from other then blizzards addons |
| 03:56.32 | ccKep | protected functions can only be used in a secure environment |
| 03:56.33 | CIA-23 | 03zlovred * r45963 10AlchCheck/ (. AlchCheck.toc Locale/AlchCheck_xxXX.lua): |
| 03:56.33 | CIA-23 | AlchCheck: |
| 03:56.33 | CIA-23 | - Prepare to localize... |
| 03:56.47 | ccKep | all unitframes have to inherit from secure templates in order to show a clickable target |
| 03:56.53 | Borked|Raider | Oki :P then ye FocusUnit would properly work yes :P |
| 03:56.56 | ccKep | so that's a secure environment |
| 03:57.14 | Borked|Raider | ye ye its secure, i was just missguided by the protected |
| 03:57.16 | Borked|Raider | thing |
| 03:57.47 | Borked|Raider | but the macro way i have done it aint that bad, i can just put in cast blind at the same time .) |
| 03:58.39 | ccKep | man, I hate server restarts |
| 03:58.45 | Borked|Raider | :) |
| 03:58.51 | Borked|Raider | better then maintains |
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| 03:59.58 | ccKep | woot, server down again |
| 04:01.36 | ccKep | Borked|Raider: http://files.wowace.com/Clique |
| 04:01.42 | ccKep | is a click-casting addon |
| 04:01.48 | ccKep | it allows you to set focus on click too ;) |
| 04:01.49 | Borked|Raider | no need |
| 04:01.58 | Borked|Raider | i got click casting functions in my units |
| 04:02.00 | ccKep | or define a spell, so you could get rid of your macro |
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| 04:02.34 | Borked|Raider | frames |
| 04:09.15 | ccKep | man, Babble-Boss has translations for every add (Coilfang Strider) and stuff, but not for karathress' adds... -.- |
| 04:10.14 | Arrowmaster | it doesn't? |
| 04:10.45 | ccKep | no |
| 04:12.07 | Arrowmaster | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BigWigs/SC/Karathress.lua |
| 04:12.10 | Arrowmaster | looks like your right |
| 04:12.25 | ccKep | yeah, just copying them from there for my addon |
| 04:13.41 | Arrowmaster | wheres funkeh` when you need him |
| 04:13.52 | CIA-23 | 03zlovred * r45964 10AlchCheck/AlchCheck.toc: |
| 04:13.52 | CIA-23 | AlchCheck: |
| 04:13.53 | CIA-23 | - Delete not necessary libs. |
| 04:14.26 | CIA-23 | 03helium * r45965 10CastYeller/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:14.26 | CIA-23 | CastYeller: |
| 04:14.26 | CIA-23 | - change zhTW locale file to UTF-8 |
| 04:14.26 | CIA-23 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 04:14.43 | ccKep | yeah, wanted to talk to him a while ago too |
| 04:15.06 | art3mis | mr. teeth, mr.teeth, mr.teeth! |
| 04:15.40 | ccKep | about moving the engage code of boss modules to an external library (BossEngage-1.0 or something?) and trigger an event for it so other addons can use that.. but it'd be a bit of work cutting the engage code off the bossmods |
| 04:16.10 | ccKep | so I started doing my own engage checks |
| 04:16.18 | ccKep | since he wasn't around ^.^ |
| 04:17.25 | art3mis | im telling! |
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| 04:29.44 | CIA-23 | AlchCheck: |
| 04:29.44 | CIA-23 | - deleting not necessary libs |
| 04:32.29 | CIA-23 | 03zlovred * r45967 10AlchCheck/Locale/ (6 files): |
| 04:32.29 | CIA-23 | AlchCheck: |
| 04:32.29 | CIA-23 | - delete not necessary loc files |
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| 04:49.04 | jme | wow |
| 04:49.22 | jme | i just installed wow and tbc on my old pc... and it took like 3 minutes to load the world after the loading bar was full |
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| 05:01.04 | Knaledge | So... |
| 05:01.11 | Knaledge | I have three WoW installs.. |
| 05:01.37 | Knaledge | One for me, one for my girlfriend, and now another one I just made so that I can test all manner of addons without fear of anything |
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| 05:01.44 | Knaledge | Is any of that truly neccessary? |
| 05:02.17 | NightHawkTheSane | aside from different wtf directories, what's actually different between them? |
| 05:02.20 | Knaledge | Between those three installs, only two separate accounts exist, mine and hers. |
| 05:02.33 | Knaledge | The addons and interface |
| 05:02.46 | Knaledge | I just... she's a warlock, and I have a rogue and a druid |
| 05:02.48 | NightHawkTheSane | meaningless, as you can just use the union of the addonset and enable/disable on the addons screen |
| 05:03.00 | Knaledge | between all the specialty addons per class and all it just gets cluttered |
| 05:03.08 | Knaledge | this is true |
| 05:03.22 | Knaledge | but... what about her logging on on her account onn her ... account (Mac) |
| 05:03.36 | Knaledge | Would her logging in touch any of my files? |
| 05:03.41 | NightHawkTheSane | nope. |
| 05:03.49 | Knaledge | so it's like Steam then? |
| 05:03.50 | NightHawkTheSane | It creates separate directories for each account in the WTF folder |
| 05:04.23 | Knaledge | in those directories, her addon cache and all that nonsense is kept there? |
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| 05:04.29 | Knaledge | I don't have to see her settings or anything? |
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| 05:04.37 | NightHawkTheSane | saved vars and such? yes. |
| 05:04.54 | Knaledge | I jsut could have sworn there's some reason people use multiple installs.. |
| 05:05.02 | Knaledge | outside of multiple accounts at the same time |
| 05:05.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I think things set via the main menu (video, sound, and interface settings) -might- be account-wide, but i'm notsure |
| 05:05.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Knaledge: dual boxing, typically :P |
| 05:05.22 | Knaledge | well yeah heh |
| 05:05.29 | NightHawkTheSane | er, s/account-wide/install-wide/ |
| 05:05.30 | Knaledge | but yeah are video settings and the like separate? |
| 05:05.56 | Knaledge | She has a custom resolution set while I use a standard resolution |
| 05:05.58 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not entirely sure, as I don't have multiple accounts. |
| 05:06.02 | Knaledge | hrm |
| 05:06.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Even then, worst case you can just have multiple copies of whatever file that's set in, and rename as appropriate. |
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| 05:07.14 | Knaledge | true. but as it stands now, it's just she logs onto her account (Mac), then launches the WoW.app in her own directory via her ... whatever that bar is down there |
| 05:07.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, I think anything set in wtf/config.wtf will be the same for any account. |
| 05:07.27 | Knaledge | renaming would be too much for her and even me, as it would annoy (me) |
| 05:07.42 | Knaledge | see that's something they could clean up a bit |
| 05:07.51 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 05:07.57 | Knaledge | also would be nice if addons were per character, not just one big old list |
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| 05:08.07 | Knaledge | they ARE per character but I mean... viewable |
| 05:08.27 | NightHawkTheSane | er... yeah? It's really fairly decent |
| 05:08.36 | Knaledge | I know but between the two of us |
| 05:08.39 | Knaledge | we have over 200 addons |
| 05:08.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean,its not that much trouble to just scroll the list and check what you want/don't want. |
| 05:08.46 | Knaledge | that list gets quite tiresome |
| 05:09.12 | NightHawkTheSane | You only really have to do it once per character. :P |
| 05:09.14 | Knaledge | it's minor, I know. heh |
| 05:09.19 | Knaledge | and yeah thats a good point |
| 05:09.31 | Knaledge | I just am now starting my first alt, ever. ever. |
| 05:09.53 | Knaledge | so I'm just intimidated by how many druid specific addons are out there |
| 05:10.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah. each class has it's own cadre of specific addons, although druids may be one of the worst. |
| 05:10.34 | Knaledge | shaman and druids I've found are most plentiful |
| 05:10.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Eh, I don't have many shaman-specific addons on mine. Just one for timing totems. |
| 05:11.21 | Knaledge | Are there any recommended addons for a new druid that intends to be feral? |
| 05:11.33 | Knaledge | my brother and I are rolling druids - resto for him and feral for me |
| 05:11.42 | Knaledge | we both also have 70 rogues |
| 05:11.52 | Knaledge | so we plan on stealth running a lot of instances |
| 05:11.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Don't ask me, I haven't played my druid in a long time, and even then she's only level 30 ;) |
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| 05:12.18 | Knaledge | hrm |
| 05:12.29 | Knaledge | Also - its quite quiet here this evening |
| 05:12.34 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. i noticed. |
| 05:12.42 | Knaledge | purl, sup |
| 05:12.45 | purl | Yo knaledge, how's it going eh? |
| 05:12.55 | Knaledge | purl, do you like soup? |
| 05:12.55 | purl | yes, I like soup. |
| 05:12.56 | NightHawkTheSane | purl: your mom. |
| 05:12.56 | purl | [your mom] a ho |
| 05:13.29 | Knaledge | purl, how many woodchucks could chuck that wood? |
| 05:13.42 | Knaledge | purl, respond. |
| 05:13.43 | purl | when spoken to, respond. |
| 05:13.51 | Knaledge | purl, answer me. |
| 05:14.00 | Knaledge | purl, I am angry with you. |
| 05:14.00 | purl | it is my pleasure to meet you, angry with you. |
| 05:14.11 | Knaledge | purl, your logic is failing. |
| 05:14.12 | purl | Knaledge: okay |
| 05:14.19 | Knaledge | purl, have my babies. |
| 05:14.37 | Knaledge | !c us arygos knaledge |
| 05:14.45 | ThraeBot | Knaledge: Knaledge, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (15/41/5). 7694 HP; 1207 AP; 283.3 Melee DPS; 26.75% melee crit; 76 melee hit; 30.17% dodge; 10 fire resist; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ajv9v ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2katw9 ]] |
| 05:14.58 | Knaledge | !c us arygos paddington |
| 05:15.10 | ThraeBot | Knaledge: Paddington, Level 16 Night Elf Druid: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24dn4o ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ds8c6 ]] |
| 05:15.25 | Knaledge | ooooo, ba-zing. |
| 05:15.31 | Knaledge | purl, teabag Thraebot |
| 05:15.32 | purl | ACTION squats |
| 05:15.39 | Knaledge | thank you purl |
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| 05:19.23 | Wobwork | ahah |
| 05:19.24 | Wobwork | http://xkcd.com/300/ |
| 05:19.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: huh, i was kind of expecting some silly sparta joke |
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| 05:21.23 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45968 10Recount/healbuffs.lua: Recount - forgot to remove some debug messages |
| 05:23.11 | Knaledge | so ok |
| 05:23.23 | Knaledge | if I have pitbull and yadda yadda enabled on my druid |
| 05:23.36 | Knaledge | that won't affect my rogue in any way if it's disabled? |
| 05:23.48 | Knaledge | (on the same install) |
| 05:23.54 | NightHawkTheSane | not if it's not disabled for your rogue :P |
| 05:24.01 | Knaledge | it's such a noob question but having two characters is bizarre.. |
| 05:24.06 | Knaledge | (to me) |
| 05:24.21 | NightHawkTheSane | in the addons window there's a drop-down menu to select which character to view/change addons for |
| 05:24.27 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 05:24.41 | Knaledge | I can just disable that stuff there right and it's all disabled, etc. for that character? |
| 05:24.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
| 05:24.52 | Knaledge | ah ok... |
| 05:24.54 | Knaledge | hrm |
| 05:25.02 | Knaledge | maybe this third install was pointless after all |
| 05:25.19 | NightHawkTheSane | yep. |
| 05:27.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: i love the hover text forthat one |
| 05:30.16 | CIA-23 | 03mitchell * r45969 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: use Arcane Intellect instead of Remove Lesser Curse for 30yd friendly range |
| 05:31.36 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45970 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Hopeful bug fix |
| 05:32.31 | CIA-23 | 03mitchell * r45971 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: rcrev set for wowi release |
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| 05:34.12 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45972 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Need to make sure Heal Correction messages are checked for versions |
| 05:38.35 | RaydenUni | if i'm aldor can i talk to the scryer enchanter? |
| 05:39.09 | Knaledge | no |
| 05:39.26 | Knaledge | once you are hated with scryers/aldor, the entire faction is sealed off from you |
| 05:39.32 | Knaledge | (interactivity wise) |
| 05:39.49 | RaydenUni | so the only person who can teach me beyond 225 is in uldaman? |
| 05:39.54 | Knaledge | The only person you may speak with from Scryers is the Neutral Scryers quest giver |
| 05:39.59 | Knaledge | I believe so, yes |
| 05:40.05 | Knaledge | though I could be wrong |
| 05:40.34 | Knaledge | Anyone have any good Druid addons they'd like to suggest? |
| 05:40.39 | Knaledge | (primarily feral) |
| 05:40.48 | Knaledge | AND, any addons that play well/compliment Pitbull ? |
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| 05:45.27 | ccKep | Clique -> clickcasting addon, nice addition to pitbull/grid/whatever unitframes you use |
| 05:46.17 | Knaledge | one thing I am a bit... lost on |
| 05:46.21 | Knaledge | Pitbull does what exactly? |
| 05:46.25 | Knaledge | rather.. let's see.. |
| 05:46.31 | Knaledge | What does Pitbull.. "touch" ? |
| 05:46.32 | omega | unitframes? |
| 05:46.46 | Knaledge | And that's what? MY character, target, etc. |
| 05:46.51 | Diao | unitframes, buffs, castbar |
| 05:47.07 | Diao | character target party pet focus raid |
| 05:47.11 | Diao | target of target etc |
| 05:47.20 | Knaledge | Ok so.. in a lot of these screenshots of people using Pitbull, etc. they have basically the entire interface all.. different |
| 05:47.35 | Knaledge | I'd like to be able to rearrange my entire actionbar PER square |
| 05:47.42 | ccKep | yeah, because the standart blizzard stuff just doesn't fit :D |
| 05:47.55 | Knaledge | but I want it to all gel with Pitbull |
| 05:47.56 | Diao | per square... |
| 05:47.57 | omega | Knaledge: actionbars is something different |
| 05:47.58 | Diao | uhh |
| 05:47.59 | Diao | infinibar? |
| 05:48.05 | Diao | i don't know if that's still in development though |
| 05:48.11 | Diao | maybe flexbar2 |
| 05:48.22 | Knaledge | yes and it must be updated recently |
| 05:48.24 | Knaledge | nothing old |
| 05:48.35 | omega | per square sounds strange |
| 05:48.37 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45973 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc AssessmentTag.lua Modules/Interrupt.lua): |
| 05:48.37 | CIA-23 | Assessment |
| 05:48.37 | CIA-23 | - Added interrupt tracking |
| 05:48.39 | Diao | flexbar2 is the only one that lets you arrange by square |
| 05:48.41 | Diao | afaik |
| 05:48.46 | Diao | that's been updated in the past week anyway |
| 05:48.57 | Diao | bartender3 only goes by bar |
| 05:49.00 | Knaledge | Well what I'd like to do is have my.. unitframes... all at the bottom of my screen |
| 05:49.01 | Diao | but you can change the shape/layout |
| 05:49.11 | Knaledge | and then, have a single row of squares under them |
| 05:49.28 | Diao | bartender3 is probably the simplest way to do that |
| 05:49.32 | Knaledge | and a clump of squares left/right of the screen at the bottom left/right, capping the unitframes |
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| 05:49.46 | omega | bartender3 sounds good then |
| 05:49.50 | Diao | you can do rows/columns |
| 05:49.51 | omega | it can make bars into "clumps" |
| 05:49.52 | Diao | with bt3 |
| 05:49.54 | Diao | yeah |
| 05:50.03 | Knaledge | ok |
| 05:50.11 | Knaledge | I'll check out bartender 3 and .. flexbar |
| 05:50.13 | Knaledge | *2 |
| 05:50.27 | Knaledge | which one is accepted as defacto standard? |
| 05:50.38 | Knaledge | namely in conjunction with Pitbull.. is it just preference? |
| 05:50.55 | omega | nothing is de facto standard :) |
| 05:52.07 | Knaledge | ok what is "Focus" in pitbull? |
| 05:52.11 | Speeddymon | arrrgh! |
| 05:52.14 | Knaledge | what unitframe is that? example |
| 05:52.17 | Diao | focus |
| 05:52.19 | ccKep | +cyCircled + CooldownCount :o |
| 05:52.19 | Diao | is the focus frame |
| 05:52.22 | Diao | that's all |
| 05:52.23 | Diao | lol |
| 05:52.26 | Diao | ew cooldowncount :( |
| 05:52.27 | Diao | omnicc ftw |
| 05:52.29 | Speeddymon | i hate reinstalling wow! |
| 05:52.31 | Knaledge | omnicc |
| 05:52.36 | Knaledge | I like it |
| 05:52.44 | omega | cooldowncount is nice |
| 05:52.44 | Knaledge | rogues <3 omnicc |
| 05:52.46 | Diao | knaledge |
| 05:52.48 | Diao | basically |
| 05:52.50 | Diao | for focus frame |
| 05:52.51 | Diao | if you type |
| 05:52.55 | Diao | /focus |
| 05:52.57 | Diao | while targetting something |
| 05:52.59 | Diao | it'll "focus" it |
| 05:53.01 | Diao | as a secondary target |
| 05:53.09 | Diao | mainly used for casters to cc |
| 05:53.11 | Knaledge | ok I'll never do that |
| 05:53.19 | Diao | could be useful if say |
| 05:53.21 | Diao | you're in pvp |
| 05:53.23 | Diao | focus their healing |
| 05:53.24 | Diao | er |
| 05:53.24 | Diao | healer |
| 05:53.28 | Diao | then target someone else, dps |
| 05:53.30 | Diao | if you see healer casting |
| 05:53.34 | Diao | you /cast [target=focus] kick |
| 05:53.38 | Diao | and it kicks them if they're nearby |
| 05:53.38 | Diao | :P |
| 05:53.49 | Knaledge | heh.. that does sound useful actually |
| 05:54.02 | Knaledge | I'll have to get with you on that later for my rogue |
| 05:54.08 | Knaledge | for now I envision like.. |
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| 05:54.27 | Knaledge | a very clean, low profile, trim interface |
| 05:54.38 | Knaledge | I play in a 1024x768 scaled window on a MAc |
| 05:54.40 | Knaledge | *Mac |
| 05:54.51 | Knaledge | so... its important I see as much as possible (preference) |
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| 05:55.01 | Knaledge | so I need help with placement |
| 05:55.03 | Speeddymon | lol rogues <3 cdt as well (63 rogue here |
| 05:55.05 | Speeddymon | ) |
| 05:55.25 | Knaledge | I like OmniCC for it's flare model |
| 05:55.36 | Knaledge | nice big bright bang on my screen whever ad rush is available |
| 05:56.13 | omega | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.18 | Speeddymon | cdt... announce in big text in the center of your screen (or wherever you want it) that x is ready |
| 05:56.33 | Knaledge | So ok... so ideally want... bags on the right and spells/abilities on the left |
| 05:56.49 | Knaledge | this is all in a single column lining the bottom of the screen |
| 05:57.13 | Speeddymon | those would be some small buttons, but bartender can do that |
| 05:57.40 | Knaledge | I'd like my own character frame somewhere down there out of the way but flush with the rest of the UI, maybe a bit of padding in the frame |
| 05:57.44 | ckknight | ~seen nargiddley |
| 05:57.46 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 22h 46s ago, saying: 'ctrl+r turns the default on'. |
| 05:57.55 | Knaledge | and this is where I get lost |
| 05:58.00 | Knaledge | where do I put my party members? |
| 05:58.03 | Knaledge | my chat? |
| 05:58.24 | Diao | across the top of your screen? |
| 05:58.28 | Diao | or across the bottom |
| 05:58.36 | Diao | somewhere kind of out of the way i think |
| 05:58.57 | Diao | most important stuff should be target and target of target aside from yourself |
| 05:59.00 | Speeddymon | well you could use aguf to dock the player frame to the action bars (i think) and then setup the party area to grow from the top of the frame |
| 05:59.13 | Speeddymon | i agree with diao on the target and ToT |
| 05:59.31 | Knaledge | yeah as a feral druid thats all I feel I'd be concerned with |
| 06:00.18 | Knaledge | what I don't get is I thought this Pitbull package was a complete UI reskin liek I see in all those pictures |
| 06:00.37 | omega | nah, its just the unit frames |
| 06:00.38 | Knaledge | the actual look of what Pitbull has done is the same look/feel the pictures have for most of the rest of the UI |
| 06:00.44 | Knaledge | how are they achieving that? |
| 06:01.05 | vithos | what screenshot are you talking about? |
| 06:01.19 | Knaledge | I can't think of any off the top of my head (location wise) but people in here have linked them |
| 06:01.30 | Diao | oh |
| 06:01.31 | Knaledge | it's basically the generic ones with the chat frame in the dead center of the bottom of their screen |
| 06:01.36 | Knaledge | and like.. |
| 06:01.40 | Knaledge | the minimap is down there too |
| 06:01.43 | Diao | well |
| 06:01.45 | Diao | squareminimap |
| 06:01.49 | Diao | and then due to sharedmedialib |
| 06:01.52 | Knaledge | and the unitframes look like the ones in Pitbull, etc. |
| 06:01.53 | Diao | people use the same "bar style" |
| 06:01.56 | Diao | on all the frames |
| 06:02.00 | Diao | so it all matches up |
| 06:02.04 | Knaledge | Ah ok how do I do that? |
| 06:02.06 | Diao | then bartender3 with cycircled and vol skin |
| 06:02.16 | Diao | well |
| 06:02.18 | Diao | 1 sec |
| 06:03.36 | Knaledge | ooo or how about this |
| 06:04.12 | Knaledge | ok ok.. my single row of action buttons lining the bottom of the screen (including bags, etc.) basically as is by default but using the new.. "skin" |
| 06:04.32 | Knaledge | then, above that the chat frame using a similar.. "skin" but scaled down a bit in size |
| 06:04.51 | Diao | skinned chatframe? o_O |
| 06:04.53 | Knaledge | above that chat frame, on the top left of the chat frame, my unitframe (me) |
| 06:04.54 | Diao | must be skinner |
| 06:05.23 | Knaledge | then to the right of me above the chat frame, my target (and just above them, their target) |
| 06:05.37 | Knaledge | now to the direct LEFT of the chat frame, in a 2x2 row |
| 06:05.40 | Knaledge | my party members |
| 06:05.56 | Diao | http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/29/wowscrnshot080507083058vs4.jpg |
| 06:05.57 | Knaledge | to the RIGHT of the chat frame, my minimap |
| 06:05.58 | omega | My chatframe is just text :p |
| 06:05.59 | Diao | that's my ui |
| 06:06.00 | Diao | lol |
| 06:06.25 | omega | Diao: Cowtip? |
| 06:06.36 | Diao | yes |
| 06:07.19 | omega | nice text lines |
| 06:07.43 | Speeddymon | god damnit why did my oldest drive have to pick tonight to die |
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| 06:07.54 | Speeddymon | and why the hell did i have to install wow to that drive |
| 06:07.58 | Diao | heh |
| 06:07.59 | Diao | thanks |
| 06:08.06 | Lywellyn | Kemayo: ping |
| 06:08.06 | Diao | took me a while to configure it exactly as i wanted |
| 06:08.17 | omega | what are the green and purple boxes? |
| 06:08.27 | Diao | where |
| 06:08.32 | Speeddymon | lol im just glad that wtf wasnt corrupted.. i was able to save it and 9/10 of my addons.. |
| 06:08.35 | Diao | top leftish? |
| 06:08.36 | omega | aboce the tooltip |
| 06:08.37 | Diao | oh |
| 06:08.38 | omega | yeah |
| 06:08.38 | Diao | nm |
| 06:08.41 | omega | no, right |
| 06:08.41 | Diao | that's decursive |
| 06:08.44 | omega | aha |
| 06:08.52 | Diao | i'm going to remove it when i get around to getting clique |
| 06:08.55 | Diao | i'm just really lazy |
| 06:09.04 | Diao | clique + grid |
| 06:09.05 | Diao | is win |
| 06:09.20 | Knaledge | well ok first things first |
| 06:09.24 | Knaledge | about the chat frame |
| 06:09.36 | Diao | uh huh |
| 06:09.40 | Knaledge | how are people manipulating it? |
| 06:09.47 | Diao | like |
| 06:09.47 | Knaledge | as far as... making it just a big old box |
| 06:09.47 | Speeddymon | unlock chat settings |
| 06:09.54 | Diao | oh |
| 06:09.57 | Diao | just right click the tab |
| 06:09.58 | Diao | unlock |
| 06:09.59 | Speeddymon | then right click tab and unlock frame |
| 06:10.02 | Diao | and you can drag it to whatever size you want |
| 06:10.03 | Knaledge | oh I know that |
| 06:10.05 | Knaledge | I mean like |
| 06:10.08 | Knaledge | hold on I found a ss |
| 06:10.09 | Speeddymon | then to resize, grab any of the edges |
| 06:11.30 | Knaledge | http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/26719d1146936637-anyone-using-wow-ui-wow20060419fizzbrd10of.jpg |
| 06:11.37 | Knaledge | ok thats a sort of good/bad example |
| 06:11.44 | Knaledge | but the layout is kind of what I'd like |
| 06:11.53 | Knaledge | in a way.. |
| 06:12.13 | Diao | lol |
| 06:12.15 | Knaledge | swap the minimap in the middle out with the chat frame |
| 06:12.17 | Diao | oh |
| 06:12.20 | Lywellyn | Kemayo: Lightheaded with QuestsFu doesn't seem to correctly bring up starting NPC coordinates using the QuestsFu questlog. Dunno if that's a LH or QF issue. |
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| 06:12.27 | Diao | hmm |
| 06:12.30 | Diao | that looks like discord art |
| 06:12.41 | Diao | but yeah |
| 06:12.45 | Diao | you can drag the frame anywhere you'd like |
| 06:12.57 | Knaledge | the chat frame? |
| 06:13.08 | omega | Knaledge: just install pitbull and bartender3 and start moving things around |
| 06:13.09 | Knaledge | but they are missing the scroll buttons, etc. etc. |
| 06:13.15 | omega | pra |
| 06:13.17 | omega | prat |
| 06:13.18 | omega | :p |
| 06:13.23 | Knaledge | whats prat? |
| 06:13.33 | omega | chat mod framework |
| 06:13.35 | Knaledge | and what is Pitbull_Prat that I see here? |
| 06:13.40 | Diao | oh |
| 06:13.44 | Diao | pitbullprat is just |
| 06:13.45 | omega | it has plugins for stuff like remove scroll buttons etc |
| 06:13.47 | Diao | plugins |
| 06:13.53 | omega | only show it when you are not at the bottom |
| 06:13.53 | Diao | it makes chat appear next to your party frames |
| 06:13.54 | Diao | if they talk |
| 06:13.55 | Knaledge | oh like those whole like... |
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| 06:14.07 | Knaledge | make it look like comic book character talk next to your party members' unit frame? |
| 06:14.11 | Diao | it's just for prettifying your ui |
| 06:14.12 | Diao | yeah |
| 06:14.15 | Knaledge | I've seen that in peoples screenshots |
| 06:14.19 | Diao | i personally don't like it |
| 06:14.19 | Knaledge | yeah not interested in that |
| 06:14.20 | Diao | but |
| 06:14.26 | Diao | it also has "glow" on party ui |
| 06:14.28 | Diao | when they talk |
| 06:14.33 | Diao | so a little glow appears around them |
| 06:14.39 | Diao | so it's just eye candy |
| 06:14.42 | Diao | not really pragmatic |
| 06:14.43 | Knaledge | I have to read the text still |
| 06:14.49 | omega | eye candy++ |
| 06:14.52 | Knaledge | and the text is prefaced b y a name heh |
| 06:15.01 | Diao | yeah |
| 06:15.16 | Knaledge | so prat might help me ... manipulate the chat frame? |
| 06:15.21 | Diao | it does everything you want |
| 06:15.22 | Diao | in a chat addon |
| 06:15.26 | Knaledge | will it .. pitbullify the chat frame? |
| 06:15.27 | Diao | add timestamps |
| 06:15.29 | Diao | justification |
| 06:15.33 | Knaledge | visually |
| 06:15.34 | Diao | show/hide buttons |
| 06:15.52 | Diao | uhh |
| 06:15.53 | omega | pitbullify doesnt make sense |
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| 06:15.57 | Diao | colors names |
| 06:15.58 | Knaledge | well ok |
| 06:15.59 | Knaledge | like the look |
| 06:16.03 | Knaledge | the gradiant |
| 06:16.05 | Knaledge | etc. |
| 06:16.15 | Diao | no |
| 06:16.18 | Diao | prat just modifies the chat itself |
| 06:16.29 | Diao | if you want a gradient on chatframes you'll haev to use either skinner or eepanels |
| 06:16.43 | Knaledge | and which is leaner/efficient/better? |
| 06:16.51 | Knaledge | and, would eepanels/skinner "overlap" prat? |
| 06:16.54 | Diao | no |
| 06:16.55 | Knaledge | as far as functionality |
| 06:16.56 | Diao | different functions |
| 06:17.00 | Diao | eepanels allows you |
| 06:17.04 | Diao | to create little panels anywhere you want on the screen |
| 06:17.07 | Diao | as sort of a "background" |
| 06:17.20 | Diao | skinner reskins all your things to a semi-transparent gradient |
| 06:17.27 | Diao | all frames |
| 06:17.31 | Knaledge | ah ok possibly kind of like that ss (eepanels that is) |
| 06:17.33 | omega | like bags, quest log, talents etc |
| 06:17.35 | Diao | like character, AH, mail, spells, etc |
| 06:17.43 | Diao | yeah |
| 06:18.02 | Knaledge | ok and which is more efficient/less costly? |
| 06:18.04 | Knaledge | eepanels? |
| 06:18.08 | Diao | probably |
| 06:18.08 | Knaledge | skinner? |
| 06:18.11 | Diao | skinner skins everything |
| 06:18.15 | Diao | so it uses more mem i think |
| 06:18.28 | Diao | however |
| 06:18.37 | Diao | i'm not sure exactly because neither of them show up on my top 20 most memory hogging addons :P |
| 06:18.45 | Knaledge | whats your lowest? |
| 06:18.49 | Knaledge | #20 |
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| 06:18.59 | Knaledge | (usage) |
| 06:19.05 | Diao | oh |
| 06:19.12 | Diao | prat atm |
| 06:19.12 | Diao | lol |
| 06:19.16 | Diao | cause i have nearly all modules loaded |
| 06:19.17 | Knaledge | at what? |
| 06:19.20 | Knaledge | 200KB? |
| 06:19.23 | Diao | 900 >.> |
| 06:19.27 | Knaledge | not bad |
| 06:19.42 | Knaledge | you use prat, skinner, AND eepanels? |
| 06:20.13 | Diao | i use |
| 06:20.15 | Diao | a lot of stuff |
| 06:20.18 | Diao | but yes i use all 3 |
| 06:20.27 | Knaledge | and none of those overlap the other? |
| 06:20.30 | Diao | going to remove eepanels becuase i don't really use the background much |
| 06:20.32 | Diao | nope |
| 06:20.35 | Diao | they all have different functions |
| 06:20.41 | Knaledge | hrm, wow. |
| 06:21.29 | Diao | here |
| 06:21.37 | Diao | well |
| 06:21.49 | Diao | only addons i use with duplicate functionality |
| 06:21.52 | Diao | are cartographer instanceloot |
| 06:21.56 | Diao | and atlas/atlasloot |
| 06:22.09 | Knaledge | yeah same |
| 06:22.15 | Knaledge | I use cart and atlas/atlasloot |
| 06:23.03 | Knaledge | is a lot of this going to be overwhelming if I were to install eepanels, skinner, prat, squareminimap, and bt3 all at once? |
| 06:23.12 | Knaledge | not to mention pitbull |
| 06:23.33 | Wid`isterrlbe | Quick question: I installed pitbull unit frames today for the first time and my default blizzard buffs disapeared, buffs and debuffs dont show up anymore, and now I have to use elk and I hate it =\ |
| 06:25.05 | Knaledge | ok how about this |
| 06:25.16 | Knaledge | (wid IDK so don't take it like I'm ignoring you) |
| 06:25.23 | Wid`isterrlbe | lol |
| 06:25.25 | Knaledge | (maybe check configuration mode) |
| 06:25.29 | ckknight | Wid`isterrlbe: or you could properly show them by going to the "Hide Blizzard Frames" menu under PitBull |
| 06:25.46 | Diao | nah configuration is prtty easy |
| 06:25.52 | Diao | oh |
| 06:25.55 | Diao | wid you can turn it off |
| 06:26.08 | Wid`isterrlbe | wow im an idiot, not sure how I clicked it off and not sure how I missed it, thanks |
| 06:26.37 | Knaledge | hey ck have you ever thought of making a whole UI "pitbull" ? |
| 06:26.55 | Knaledge | I like how extensible Pitbull is so far |
| 06:27.01 | Knaledge | I mean... it's like EVERYTHING.. |
| 06:27.10 | ckknight | ...n |
| 06:27.12 | ckknight | ...no* |
| 06:27.19 | Knaledge | it'd be cool to see this stretch across to chat frame, actiobars, etc. |
| 06:27.20 | ckknight | it's just unit frames |
| 06:27.23 | ckknight | no more than that |
| 06:29.37 | Jaxon | ckknight: random grey boxes which are anchored where the buffs are make me a sandpanda :( http://jaxon.ca/ScreenShot_080407_203020.jpeg |
| 06:29.46 | Jaxon | s/sandpanda/sadpanda/ |
| 06:29.47 | ckknight | known bug |
| 06:29.53 | ckknight | I like sandpanda better. |
| 06:30.08 | Diao | lol |
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| 06:30.18 | Jaxon | Anything I can do to help fix it that isn't "Go in and fix it" ? |
| 06:30.19 | Diao | it seems to happen only when specific buffs occur |
| 06:30.31 | ckknight | Jaxon: honestly, no |
| 06:30.45 | ckknight | I need to revamp the aura positioning system |
| 06:30.59 | Jaxon | Okay, I've spent the last little while (three days) trying to cause it to happen with no luck. |
| 06:31.19 | Knaledge | oh jaxon |
| 06:31.20 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45974 10Assessment/Modules/CrowdControl.lua: |
| 06:31.20 | CIA-23 | Assessment |
| 06:31.20 | CIA-23 | - Added Crowd Control Breaks display sets |
| 06:31.21 | Jaxon | My guildmates are getting pissed off at me constantly inviting them and kicking them. |
| 06:31.21 | Knaledge | snap |
| 06:31.29 | Knaledge | how did you get your chatbox to look that like? |
| 06:31.32 | Knaledge | chatframe? |
| 06:31.36 | Knaledge | skinner? |
| 06:31.49 | Roartindon | Jaxon: Not necessarily grey |
| 06:31.57 | Roartindon | Jaxon: I've seen all sorts of colors, black, blue, grey, etc. |
| 06:32.12 | Diao | that looks like skinner |
| 06:32.16 | Jaxon | Roartindon: me too, thats just happened to be the color it was. |
| 06:32.23 | Jaxon | Knaledge: http://jaxon.ca/ScreenShot_080507_202204.jpeg Skinner's bottomframe. |
| 06:32.50 | Knaledge | sweet |
| 06:33.06 | Knaledge | ok all .. so picture my chat frame in the center there, using same height |
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| 06:33.20 | Knaledge | then above it, my unitframe and to the right of mine, my targets |
| 06:33.39 | Knaledge | then all to the left and a bit small, above that.. bottom bar in his screenshot is my party members |
| 06:33.57 | Knaledge | my minimap to the right of the chat frame |
| 06:34.07 | Diao | uh huh |
| 06:34.08 | Knaledge | and my action buttons to the left of it in rows |
| 06:34.09 | Jaxon | You never truly understand "a picture is worth a thousand words" until someone starts typing them all out. |
| 06:34.20 | Knaledge | thats all doable with those addons? |
| 06:34.31 | Jaxon | Knaledge: you can do anything. |
| 06:35.05 | Knaledge | whats the most recommended/best square minimap addon? |
| 06:35.09 | Knaledge | squareminimap? |
| 06:35.16 | vithos | simpleMinimap is also nice |
| 06:35.18 | Knaledge | or is there one that is better |
| 06:35.26 | Jaxon | Whatever map mod does what you need it to do. |
| 06:35.39 | Knaledge | I just want one that won;t give me a headache with any compatibility problems |
| 06:35.44 | vithos | yeah. just go try them out and decide for yourself |
| 06:36.05 | Jaxon | The only time I had a problem with simpleMinimap was when it was crashing the client when you locked it in the default position and that got fixed in about 30 minutes. |
| 06:36.25 | Knaledge | simpleminimap is square? And is it Ace/ |
| 06:36.45 | vithos | uh huh |
| 06:37.02 | Jaxon | It has different skins, corner skins, square, square no border, circle no border, and yes, ace. |
| 06:37.13 | Knaledge | word |
| 06:37.17 | Jaxon | Though Ace or lack thereof shouldn't be a deciding factor in which mod to use. |
| 06:37.23 | Diao | the most basic of basic square minimaps i think |
| 06:37.24 | Diao | is squeenix |
| 06:37.29 | Diao | just turns it square |
| 06:37.30 | Diao | and lets you move it |
| 06:37.31 | Diao | that's it |
| 06:38.07 | Knaledge | heh |
| 06:38.13 | Knaledge | And now that there's more people here |
| 06:38.25 | Knaledge | anyone have any recommendations for druid mods? I know diao pitched a few |
| 06:38.39 | Knaledge | (feral druid, that is) |
| 06:39.31 | ckknight | well, PitBull has the mana bar thing in it |
| 06:39.36 | vithos | what is a druid mod? is this a similar concept to hunter weapon? |
| 06:39.46 | Diao | lol |
| 06:39.57 | Diao | druid relevant mods then? |
| 06:40.07 | Knaledge | vithos, the logic nazi |
| 06:40.11 | omega | energy timer perhaps? |
| 06:40.21 | Jaxon | Does the default UI switch bars based on Prowl as well as shapeshift yet? |
| 06:40.24 | Diao | no |
| 06:40.26 | Diao | it doesn't |
| 06:40.37 | Jaxon | Well, I'd start with a barmod that did. |
| 06:40.40 | Knaledge | ohh thats the question I had |
| 06:40.43 | Jaxon | Or just extensive use of macros |
| 06:40.57 | Knaledge | yeah I was hoping that like how I described all my actions would be to the left of the chat frame |
| 06:41.08 | Knaledge | if I could somehow get them all to change basd on shapeshift form |
| 06:41.22 | Knaledge | so bear would swap to one set, then popping out and into cat would swap to another |
| 06:41.31 | Knaledge | no like... greying out, etc. just a straight swap |
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| 06:42.18 | Wid`isterrlbe | Another pitbull question: Is it possible to detatch the "party target" windows from eachother? right now they're attached and I need to split them up |
| 06:42.32 | omega | Knaledge: bartender3 lets you do that |
| 06:42.44 | omega | to some extent at least |
| 06:42.48 | Knaledge | nice :) |
| 06:42.53 | Knaledge | to what extent would you say? |
| 06:42.59 | Knaledge | anything I'd have to do to get it close to that? |
| 06:43.11 | omega | well, I have only ever tried to swap one bar |
| 06:43.13 | omega | and that works |
| 06:43.17 | omega | dunno if you want to swap everything |
| 06:43.21 | Diao | no wid |
| 06:43.25 | Diao | they're attached just like party |
| 06:43.44 | Knaledge | one bar or two might be nice |
| 06:43.47 | Diao | bartender3 lets you swap any bar |
| 06:43.49 | Knaledge | ideally this is just to cut back on the visible clutter |
| 06:44.08 | Diao | based on holding down a key though i think |
| 06:44.11 | Diao | not sure if it does it based on stance |
| 06:44.11 | Knaledge | I'm a rather simple player as far as play style |
| 06:44.22 | Knaledge | ah yeah that would be ideal even still |
| 06:44.30 | Jaxon | Bar3 can do it based on stance, button press, fucking everything. |
| 06:44.45 | Diao | oh |
| 06:44.49 | Diao | where's the option for stance based |
| 06:44.54 | Diao | or does it only show up if you're playing a warrior or druid |
| 06:45.01 | Diao | cause it's not showing up on pally :P |
| 06:45.46 | Knaledge | yeah pls ellaborate |
| 06:45.47 | Knaledge | I am not finding it either |
| 06:46.03 | Jaxon | Bar # -> Paging submenu -> Stances. It'll only show up if you are playing a class which has a pre-set switch. For my priest, it is showing a shadowform switch |
| 06:46.21 | Diao | ah no wonder |
| 06:46.25 | Diao | must be druid/rogue/warrior/priest only |
| 06:46.33 | Diao | i'll have to check it hwen i go on my warrior |
| 06:47.14 | Knaledge | ah ok I see it now |
| 06:47.16 | Knaledge | nice :) |
| 06:47.23 | Knaledge | and it looks like it can be for all bars, etc. |
| 06:47.44 | Jaxon | Not all bars, because for every bar you change, it has to change to something. |
| 06:48.08 | Diao | well nobody actually uses all 120 action buttons |
| 06:48.11 | Diao | afaik >.> |
| 06:48.28 | Jaxon | In Bar3's setup, you tell it which bar to page to when you are in that stance/form |
| 06:48.42 | Jaxon | So you tell it bar10 for Cat, you aren't using bar 10 for anything normally. |
| 06:48.46 | Kirkburn | A Warlock might :P |
| 06:49.05 | omega | I use 72 or so on my mage |
| 06:49.17 | omega | a bit less cause I have some open slots |
| 06:49.20 | omega | but 6 bars |
| 06:49.31 | Jaxon | Just over 80 on my hunter. |
| 06:49.56 | Diao | no way.. warlock can't possibly use 120 |
| 06:49.58 | Diao | o_o |
| 06:50.04 | Diao | unless they hotkeyed every single rank of every spell :P |
| 06:51.16 | Wobwork | and then every macro they could think of |
| 06:51.34 | Knaledge | in skinner, if I disable all UI frames (skinning?) and mouseover "Container Frames" I get an error |
| 06:51.59 | Knaledge | attempt to index field 'ContainerFrames' (a boolean value) |
| 06:52.13 | Knaledge | now I can't turn it back on |
| 06:52.26 | Diao | o_O |
| 06:52.49 | Diao | reload ui? |
| 06:54.19 | Knaledge | also, hideborder on prat's chatframe for editbox has no function |
| 06:54.26 | Knaledge | there's always a border |
| 06:54.45 | Jaxon | That'll conflict with Skinner's setting. |
| 06:54.54 | Knaledge | ah.. crap |
| 06:54.57 | Knaledge | dreaded overlap heh |
| 06:56.29 | Knaledge | Any way to move the chat channel tabs? |
| 06:56.33 | Diao | no |
| 06:56.34 | Knaledge | can't find it in Prat |
| 06:56.35 | Diao | but prat can disable them |
| 06:56.41 | Diao | under ChatTabs module |
| 06:56.44 | Diao | you can force hide it |
| 06:57.04 | Knaledge | damn. nah I wouldn't want to do that. I have 6 chat tabs I'd need |
| 06:57.10 | Knaledge | darn |
| 06:57.16 | Diao | i think the tabs |
| 06:57.18 | Diao | are set by blizzard |
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| 07:01.13 | CIA-23 | 03next96 * r45975 10Assessment/Modules/ (CrowdControl.lua Interrupt.lua): |
| 07:01.13 | CIA-23 | Assessment : |
| 07:01.13 | CIA-23 | - Update locale koKR |
| 07:01.40 | Knaledge | heh crashed wow by scrolling SKinner's "Viewport" Y Resolution slider all the way to 1600 |
| 07:01.51 | Knaledge | from minimum to 1600 |
| 07:01.51 | Aenslaed | ugh |
| 07:01.57 | Aenslaed | having some problem with Aloft |
| 07:02.11 | Diao | lol |
| 07:02.15 | Aenslaed | with mobhealth. I get !!Tag Error!! where the HP is supposed to be |
| 07:02.32 | Knaledge | @Diao: I'm not seeing what eePanels might be used for that Skinner doesn't/wouldn't provide |
| 07:02.58 | Knaledge | maybe the whole "intercept mouse" thing |
| 07:03.06 | Knaledge | which I do wish SKinner's bottom panel had |
| 07:04.43 | Diao | oh |
| 07:04.46 | Diao | that happened to me |
| 07:04.48 | Diao | uh |
| 07:04.49 | Diao | well |
| 07:04.52 | Diao | eepanel you can create a panel |
| 07:04.56 | Diao | anywhere on the screen |
| 07:04.58 | Diao | skinner doesn't do that |
| 07:05.02 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5618.msg127762#msg127762 |
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| 07:08.19 | Knaledge | damn.. I can't get FuBar to push up the bartender bars, etc. |
| 07:08.29 | Speeddymon | k |
| 07:08.35 | Speeddymon | fubar wont |
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| 07:09.28 | [Ammo] | NightHawkTheSane: pong |
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| 07:24.07 | Diao | yeah it won't |
| 07:24.11 | Diao | you have to move it manually |
| 07:29.17 | Knaledge | uninstalled skinner |
| 07:29.23 | Knaledge | too much overlap with Pitbull and Prat, etc. |
| 07:29.27 | Knaledge | and wicked buggy |
| 07:29.31 | Knaledge | found like 9 things |
| 07:29.34 | Knaledge | and one crashed WoW |
| 07:30.03 | Knaledge | nice idea(s) touched upon in the addon but just seems to lack focus and is a bit all over the place atm |
| 07:30.14 | Knaledge | thanks for the suggestion to try it out though |
| 07:32.10 | Knaledge | thanks for the help ) |
| 07:32.13 | Knaledge | nite all |
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| 07:32.55 | evl | Roartindon: assessment rocks but is there anyway I can get it to turn down the level of detail? |
| 07:33.09 | Roartindon | evl: You mean to limit gathering for memory reasons? |
| 07:33.24 | evl | Yes but I'm really not sure if that memory even impacts performance |
| 07:33.34 | evl | I had 25mb usage after yesterdays Vashj kill |
| 07:33.38 | Roartindon | evl: Go to data options -> damage -> hit data, gather none |
| 07:33.39 | evl | from Assessment alone |
| 07:33.42 | Roartindon | evl: and all the other data options |
| 07:33.56 | evl | Nice, working perfectly otherwise |
| 07:34.06 | Roartindon | evl: It was written to be efficient on CPU, but the data gathering memory amounts may affect systems with limited resources |
| 07:34.25 | Roartindon | evl: Mine runs at 70MB, I have every boss kill in SSC and TK recorded for the last 3 weeks :) |
| 07:34.31 | evl | I tried yesterday and I had noticable better performance with Assessment than Violation |
| 07:34.35 | Roartindon | evl: But I still keep a high framerate |
| 07:34.43 | Roartindon | evl: Surprising.. violation should be a lot quicker |
| 07:34.48 | evl | Yes, I thought so too |
| 07:34.51 | [Ammo] | yeah I'm kinda surprised myself |
| 07:34.53 | Roartindon | evl: Since it has a much much smaller memory footprint |
| 07:34.54 | [Ammo] | run em alongside and profile em |
| 07:35.03 | evl | I can't explain it |
| 07:35.08 | evl | it just felt more responsive |
| 07:35.13 | evl | not the windows but the gameworld |
| 07:35.35 | Roartindon | hmm.. interesting. I did make a lot of effort to remove all unnecessary cpu time |
| 07:35.40 | evl | Could it be the synching? |
| 07:35.57 | Roartindon | evl: Maybe. Assessment was made to run un-synched, with max combat range |
| 07:35.58 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 07:36.05 | [Ammo] | sync is done every 5 seconds |
| 07:36.15 | [Ammo] | that shouldn't happen that often |
| 07:36.24 | Roartindon | That should be minimal overhead then, unless there's something weird happening with dm/swstats code? |
| 07:36.24 | evl | WindowLib?` |
| 07:36.27 | evl | Threat? |
| 07:36.37 | evl | I'm running without spying and no KTM |
| 07:36.48 | [Ammo] | windowlib does nothing evl |
| 07:36.51 | Roartindon | evl: you run embedded, or standalone? |
| 07:36.53 | [Ammo] | it's just a dragdrop code |
| 07:36.56 | evl | Roartindon: standalone |
| 07:37.45 | evl | Roartindon: What does hit data gather? melee hit/miss rate? |
| 07:38.00 | Roartindon | evl: If you go to Data Options -> and turn all of the detailed gathering optinos to none, you should have pretty low memory usage, but of course, clicking down into details won't show anything |
| 07:38.29 | Roartindon | evl: Let me update the text there to make it more informative |
| 07:38.31 | evl | Another thing is that I'd like not to have the option of looking at say healing done etc. is that possible? |
| 07:38.40 | Roartindon | hit details = hit, crit, etc. |
| 07:38.52 | Roartindon | evl: Go to display sets -> Healing Done -> unclick favorite |
| 07:38.53 | evl | That's stuff I need :P |
| 07:39.00 | evl | Roartindon: Favorite = Will be gathered? |
| 07:39.08 | Roartindon | Favorite = shows up on the short list |
| 07:39.29 | evl | the window code is sex btw |
| 07:39.35 | evl | border styles, title on off, <3 |
| 07:39.50 | Roartindon | evl: I've always been one for lots of cosmetic options :) |
| 07:40.17 | evl | Roartindon: About memory, does it have any impact on FPS what so ever? I have 2gb ram' |
| 07:40.19 | Diao | hm |
| 07:40.24 | Diao | anyone know if minichat author hangs out in irc |
| 07:40.39 | [Ammo] | if he does, he should learn about indenting and code readability |
| 07:40.45 | Diao | haven't found any reference to it |
| 07:40.47 | Diao | on the wowace forums |
| 07:41.20 | Diao | the basic idea is pretty nice |
| 07:41.37 | Diao | but it's a little buggy (if chat extends past 1 line and you have it set to shrink to 1 line it looks... really weird) |
| 07:43.02 | Diao | if i could get a mix between dreamchat and minichat |
| 07:43.04 | Diao | it would be awesome |
| 07:43.04 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45976 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Modules/Damage.lua): |
| 07:43.04 | CIA-23 | Assessment |
| 07:43.04 | CIA-23 | - Clarified damage options, so that "hit data" "attack data" are better explained. |
| 07:43.28 | Roartindon | evl: Any code that does anything will have an impact on performance, the goal is to minimize it. |
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| 07:43.50 | Diao | lol cyrez |
| 07:43.53 | Roartindon | evl: I believe Assessment has a minimal impact on fps *for what it does*. Of course, if you uninstall it, it'll go quicker, and turning off more options will improve your fps |
| 07:43.56 | Diao | i added it to my autojoin :D |
| 07:43.59 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 07:44.32 | Roartindon | evl: Having said that, I run it with all the options on their default, and haven't yet had cause to turn off anything for fps reasons |
| 07:44.36 | Diao | tasty |
| 07:48.47 | Cyrez | It all started with a spawned window and one long line of mIRC script. |
| 07:50.07 | Cyrez | But I decided to turn it into something for everyone, so I started pumping the same output into a channel I created. |
| 07:50.13 | Jaxon | Is mIRC still the anti-christ of Windows GUI standards? |
| 07:50.24 | Cyrez | Um, huh? |
| 07:51.06 | Diao | what? lol |
| 07:51.15 | Jaxon | Nevermind :P |
| 07:51.48 | Cyrez | Then another CIA bot was put in there so I disabled my script. |
| 07:52.07 | Cyrez | But the channel is registered to me. |
| 07:52.40 | Cyrez | So it's still my pet project although I'm not the one that sent the bot in there. |
| 07:53.09 | Cyrez | The general idea remains intact. |
| 07:53.30 | Cyrez | Commits without much of the scrolling hell. |
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| 07:54.37 | Roartindon | evl: There's also options for limiting healing data gathered, and other stuff that you can turn down of course |
| 07:54.46 | Cyrez | I could write a logging script to spit out something totally spotless, but I lack the attention span. |
| 07:55.10 | Aenslaed | Does anyone know a mod to automatically remove misdirection? |
| 07:55.11 | evl | Roartindon: thanks, I'll definetly look into it further today. I have to admit the defaults are pretty verbose :D that data sets menu just made me fall off my chair :D |
| 07:55.18 | Aenslaed | friend is being griefed in raids with it |
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| 07:55.47 | Roartindon | evl: Yeah, when I first created it, the display sets menu looked manageable, right now, I do need to do something about that list - it's massive, and the aceoptions table chews a chunk of memory |
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| 07:56.07 | Cyrez | Aenslaed: Is that a debuff, I'm assuming? |
| 07:56.13 | Aenslaed | buff |
| 07:56.28 | Cyrez | Hmmm, that makes it tougher... >< |
| 07:56.29 | evl | Roartindon: Maybe split it into Healing, Damage, Threat etc? |
| 07:56.31 | Cyrez | IDK. |
| 07:56.35 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: Umm.. how about the raid leader tell the hunters to play properly, or take a hike? |
| 07:56.45 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: wont happen |
| 07:57.07 | Diao | uhh |
| 07:57.08 | Diao | it's a buff |
| 07:57.10 | Diao | not a debuff |
| 07:57.19 | Cyrez | It's like telling stupid drivers to sell their car and start taking the bus. |
| 07:57.22 | Diao | lol |
| 07:57.31 | Diao | cancellation |
| 07:57.35 | Diao | should allow you to remove misdirection |
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| 07:57.36 | Jaxon | Speaking for all hunters raiding everywhere, the limited joy we have misdirecting trash to AFK raidleading warlocks is neccessary to keep. |
| 07:57.38 | Diao | it removes "any unwanted buffs" afaik |
| 07:57.46 | Aenslaed | Diao: he's trying that right now but he doesn't know what to edit |
| 07:57.52 | Aenslaed | Diao: and I dont know what to change either |
| 07:57.53 | Diao | oh |
| 07:58.00 | Diao | well i don't use it personally |
| 07:58.01 | Diao | so uhh |
| 07:58.03 | Diao | :( |
| 07:58.05 | Jaxon | Aenslaed: that is a social problem and generallyisn't solved that well by technological solutions. |
| 07:58.14 | Aenslaed | me either, and its a 2x,xxx rev mod. Really old |
| 07:58.23 | Jaxon | Tell your hunters to straighten the fuck up. |
| 07:58.42 | Aenslaed | Jaxon: thanks, but i'm looking for a mod which will handle this |
| 07:58.50 | Diao | ah |
| 07:59.00 | Diao | oh wait |
| 07:59.04 | Jaxon | You could just not invite hunters to the raid. |
| 08:00.20 | evl | Heh |
| 08:00.24 | evl | Hunters ALWAYS have l2p problems |
| 08:00.27 | evl | "Heal me, and my pet!" |
| 08:00.29 | Diao | take a look at the code |
| 08:00.31 | Diao | in damnation |
| 08:00.39 | Diao | you can modify it for misdirection instead of salvation |
| 08:00.57 | Aenslaed | Diao: we're on vent right now and hes tried that. it wont take for him for some reason |
| 08:01.06 | Diao | oh |
| 08:01.06 | Aenslaed | but neither of us are coders, just end users |
| 08:01.57 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: I'm guessing clicking off buffs is a protected function now, when it wasn't previously? |
| 08:02.05 | Roartindon | ie. has to be initiated by a click/keypress? |
| 08:02.35 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:02.36 | Diao | shouldn't be |
| 08:02.40 | Diao | if the code in damnation is correct |
| 08:02.48 | Diao | if name == BS["Greater Blessing of Salvation"] or name == BS["Blessing of Salvation"] then |
| 08:02.48 | Diao | if mode == MODE_ON then |
| 08:02.49 | Diao | CancelPlayerBuff(GetPlayerBuff(index, "HELPFUL")) |
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| 08:02.55 | Diao | seems to autocancel |
| 08:03.27 | Roartindon | add in or name == BS["Misdirection"] then? |
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| 08:03.33 | Roartindon | or Misdirect |
| 08:03.34 | Roartindon | whatever it's called? |
| 08:03.44 | [Ammo] | misdirection |
| 08:05.02 | Jaxon | Misdirection has charges though, but I'm not familiar with the buff events to know if that would make a difference. |
| 08:05.17 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: it works on stuff like unending breath so the mod still works. I just dont think he knows how to do this properly. |
| 08:06.07 | Diao | yeah I think so |
| 08:06.12 | Diao | but |
| 08:06.16 | Diao | i don't think you want "or" |
| 08:06.21 | Diao | just replace the salv part |
| 08:06.25 | Diao | because hunter autoremoving salv |
| 08:06.27 | Diao | would be bad |
| 08:06.27 | Diao | :P |
| 08:06.33 | Diao | even though they do have FD |
| 08:07.10 | Diao | or whatever class it is |
| 08:07.59 | Wobwork | Shaman have Improved Feign Death |
| 08:08.22 | Wobwork | *pewpewpew* "Hurgggh!" *ankh!* *pewpewpew* |
| 08:08.33 | Diao | haha |
| 08:08.35 | Diao | once per hour |
| 08:08.37 | Diao | or 40 min |
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| 08:12.16 | hamunaptra | got a stupid question again... I'm on a different computer than usual and want do work on my addon... I've checked it out, but when uploading (with Turtoise), I can't set username/password to autenticate... anyone know how to do this? |
| 08:14.32 | Arrowmaster | i know there was a mod on the svn just for removing misdirection, but i cant find it, i think somebody might have moved when stuff with out of date tocs got moved |
| 08:15.32 | Arrowmaster | ok i found it but its not there anymore, wtb fucking working trac |
| 08:15.46 | mitch0 | this sounds awful: 1.2.9 Currently it?s a pain to be a healer and not be able to do any damage (unless respec?ing). Are there any plans to improve this? |
| 08:15.46 | mitch0 | 1.2.9 Yes, Healers will get something called Free damage. Details are unknown though. |
| 08:15.58 | Aenslaed | Arrowmaster: :( |
| 08:16.13 | Aenslaed | Arrowmaster: i recall that mod too but that was a long time ago |
| 08:16.56 | Arrowmaster | found it, somebody put it in tags |
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| 08:18.20 | Arrowmaster | Aenslaed: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/Redirection/11200/ |
| 08:19.13 | Arrowmaster | toc needs updated, and personally i could change the CancelPlayerBuff(buffindex) to CancelPlayerBuff("Misdirection") just so it doesnt ever remove a wrong buff |
| 08:21.13 | Roartindon | hamunaptra: Are you using the right svn server? |
| 08:21.52 | mitch0 | any details on the event based combat log system of 2.4? will it make it possible to differentiate mobs with the same name? |
| 08:22.28 | Grum | no |
| 08:22.31 | Grum | ofc not :) |
| 08:22.53 | Arrowmaster | i remember somebody saying that they mentioned it would be possible at the blizzcon ui panel |
| 08:23.27 | Grum | would be nice indeed but from what i remember no-one said that ;( |
| 08:23.34 | Aenslaed | Diao: i had to edit it for him. He's pretty bad at this. But it works! |
| 08:23.35 | Grum | i might need to listen that stream again so it seems =D |
| 08:24.15 | hamunaptra | Roartindon: nope :) changed it to dev instead of svn, now it works ... *duh*... told you it was a stupid question^^ |
| 08:24.32 | Diao | lol |
| 08:24.57 | Diao | mitch0 from what i heard |
| 08:25.05 | Diao | every mob has a unique id in the event driven CL? |
| 08:25.09 | Diao | so you should be able to differentiate |
| 08:25.49 | Roartindon | very interesting |
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| 08:29.07 | xlvii | [17:17:16] <fire> is it sad that im amusing myself by controling the movements of the bugs on my screen with my mouse? i think their afraid of it... |
| 08:31.19 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45977 10fmBuffCheck/ (. fmBuffCheck.lua fmBuffCheck.toc): |
| 08:31.19 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 08:31.19 | CIA-23 | - added eventlib to prepare for timed events (drycoded!) |
| 08:31.23 | si-m1 | get new drivers |
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| 08:37.20 | mitch0 | diao: sounds cool |
| 08:37.25 | CIA-23 | 03nemes * r45978 10NBuffBars/ (5 files in 2 dirs): NBuffBars: add group toggling, full example, raid member population, fix buff event monitoring |
| 08:37.43 | mitch0 | oh, but come to think of it, maybe by that time we'd also get the built-in threat meter thing, too |
| 08:38.02 | vhaarr | who said anything about a builtin threat meter |
| 08:38.08 | vhaarr | there won't be one |
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| 08:38.33 | Arrowmaster | i heard they mentioned one |
| 08:38.34 | mitch0 | 4.6.3Q Can we expect improved UI features? |
| 08:38.34 | mitch0 | 4.6.3A Yes, the UI will get some very nice features. First off it will introduce an itemrack/Outfitter like feature. Basically it will allow you to easily swap gear compilations. However, it?s just not that; it will also introduce storage for those items. If that?s not enough, you can also expect a Big-wigs/Deadly boss mods like warning system. Last but not least; a build-in threat-meter! |
| 08:38.34 | mitch0 | 4.6.3S http://news.curse.com/details/2592/ |
| 08:38.35 | mitch0 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGpUX1FpA_I |
| 08:39.11 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:39.14 | Diao | they mentioned one |
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| 08:39.53 | Diao | storage for extra armor sounds nice |
| 08:39.57 | yacoob | wow, nice. |
| 08:39.57 | Diao | instead of 3 bags of gear :P |
| 08:39.59 | mitch0 | hope it'll have an API so that different UIs could use it. the community UIs tend to be nicer |
| 08:40.06 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:40.08 | yacoob | and storage for gear, that's *exactly* what was missing. |
| 08:40.14 | Diao | blizzard implementations are very basic >.> |
| 08:40.25 | yacoob | that's another thing :) |
| 08:40.30 | yacoob | FCT :D |
| 08:41.51 | phyber | after storage for gear, I sure hope there is storage for items so that my bags and bank can be totally empty. |
| 08:42.02 | phyber | why the hell would I pet things in those! |
| 08:42.08 | phyber | s/pet/put/ |
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| 08:42.41 | Diao | lol |
| 08:42.43 | Arrowmaster | they need storage for stupid quest items/tokens |
| 08:42.59 | abbat_w | morning guys |
| 08:43.02 | Diao | they need quests to allow us to gain more professions! |
| 08:43.05 | yacoob | as for armor, I'd go for some showroom |
| 08:43.10 | phyber | they need to allow items that act as keys to go on the keyring. |
| 08:43.14 | abbat_w | Someone have expirience with ParseLib? |
| 08:43.16 | yacoob | instanced area, where you can put your gear on hanings |
| 08:43.20 | yacoob | hangings |
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| 08:43.29 | phyber | Onyxia key can't go on the keyring because people might wear it? yeah, ok ;) |
| 08:43.38 | Arrowmaster | or a quest to get a new ony key that you cant equip but goes in the keyring |
| 08:43.40 | yacoob | "Oh, and there's this Onyxia head, I've got it stuffed..." |
| 08:43.51 | phyber | Arrowmaster: yeah. some NPC with a trade-in for it would be good. |
| 08:44.19 | CIA-23 | 03speeddymon * r45979 10CooldownTimers2/ (Core.lua Options.lua): |
| 08:44.19 | CIA-23 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 08:44.19 | CIA-23 | - Fix for trinket cooldowns. Thanks Miaxi |
| 08:44.19 | CIA-23 | - Fix for another LUA error in the menu. Hopefully the last |
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| 08:45.56 | abbat_w | ~help |
| 08:46.20 | abbat_w | ~seen rophy |
| 08:46.25 | purl | rophy <n=Miranda@220-132-204-186.HINET-IP.hinet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 20h 14m 13s ago, saying: 'did officials said anything about game balance after adding the death knight?'. |
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| 08:46.57 | phyber | the game will be balanced by all current classes standing on the other side of the see-saw. |
| 08:48.15 | Diao | lol |
| 08:49.55 | vhaarr | mitch0: god that sucks |
| 08:49.57 | vhaarr | fuck blizzard man |
| 08:51.46 | CIA-23 | 03speeddymon * r45980 10CooldownTimers2/Core.lua: |
| 08:51.46 | CIA-23 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 08:51.46 | CIA-23 | - Forgot to include the Preparation/Readiness/Cold Snap fix (fixes cooldown finishers still not properly working all the time) |
| 08:52.47 | mitch0 | vhaarr: ...? the threat meter thing? |
| 08:52.53 | vhaarr | all of it |
| 08:53.09 | vhaarr | and he didn't mention bigwigs, what the fuck is that about |
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| 08:53.20 | Diao | dbm is more well known >.> |
| 08:53.23 | Diao | even though it sucks |
| 08:53.28 | winkiller | it's not |
| 08:53.28 | vhaarr | bw has more downloads |
| 08:53.29 | abbat_w | guys |
| 08:53.31 | abbat_w | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full2035.jpg |
| 08:53.39 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I don't think I can follow you |
| 08:53.41 | abbat_w | this pic from MessageEvent addon |
| 08:53.50 | abbat_w | Something like this but for 2.0? |
| 08:54.01 | vhaarr | abbat_w: MessageEvent stopped working? |
| 08:54.12 | Srosh | I guess the name "Boss Mods" is more obvious than "BigWigs", especially for those that aren't into mods at all. |
| 08:54.26 | abbat_w | vhaarr, i don't test, just look addon which can help |
| 08:54.29 | Srosh | +(Deadly) |
| 08:54.35 | abbat_w | and see 2006 year of MessageEvent |
| 08:54.52 | Arrowmaster | thats why its posted as "BigWigs Boss Mods" on the release sites |
| 08:55.22 | Jaxon | I think it was availibility. You look at CTRA, what people used for bossmods, and started switching away. The same sites that had CTRA have DBM, and I don't know if BigWigs is available anywhere other than WoWAce |
| 08:55.28 | winkiller | or they love the RA-like spam |
| 08:55.32 | vhaarr | DBM might hold more downloads on curse-gaming, but if you add up curse, wowi and WAU, BigWigs beats DBM hands down. |
| 08:55.40 | vhaarr | Jaxon: It is. |
| 08:55.48 | Arrowmaster | bigwigs is on wowi and curse |
| 08:56.10 | winkiller | you can't measure it at all imo |
| 08:56.13 | abbat_w | Need more nice looking screenshots ;) |
| 08:56.14 | mitch0 | vhaarr: but really, what is your problem with them implementing bigwigs/omen? |
| 08:56.21 | abbat_w | This can boost dl count |
| 08:56.27 | winkiller | I run WAU daily because it's easy. and I update my non-WAU Addons once a month |
| 08:56.29 | vhaarr | mitch0: are you shitting me? |
| 08:56.46 | mitch0 | vhaarr: erm, no. just don't understand your rage |
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| 08:56.58 | vhaarr | mitch0: all the time we spent making those mods, and now they'll go into oblivion, never being recognized, hardly remembered, and we'll recieve NO CREDITS WHATSOEVER for blizzards implementation. |
| 08:56.58 | winkiller | I'm on your server, fdding with your dl numbers |
| 08:57.02 | vhaarr | mitch0: so FUCK THEM |
| 08:57.05 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I'd like to understand your point of view |
| 08:57.17 | mitch0 | oh |
| 08:57.22 | winkiller | didn't they already do that some time ago? |
| 08:57.30 | Dustwhisper- | bigwigs is better than DBm by far in my opinion |
| 08:57.37 | Diao | knowing blizzard |
| 08:57.38 | winkiller | just can't rememver which mods they sucked up last time |
| 08:57.41 | Diao | their implementation will be terrible |
| 08:57.44 | Dustwhisper- | it depends on blizzards implementation if ill use theirs or not |
| 08:57.46 | Diao | and people will still use third party addons |
| 08:57.55 | Arrowmaster | they already have boss warnings ingame |
| 08:58.01 | Dustwhisper- | Ill definitively test their threat API |
| 08:58.16 | Arrowmaster | theyll probably just add more stuff to the current boss emote thingy |
| 08:58.35 | theoddone33 | wow dr damage is giving me unintuitive results |
| 08:58.40 | theoddone33 | not that I think it's wrong |
| 08:58.45 | vhaarr | well, if they implement stuff that replaces ClosetGnome and BigWigs, that's it for me |
| 08:58.47 | vhaarr | I'll quit |
| 08:58.48 | theoddone33 | I'm just really surprised at which gear is better |
| 08:58.56 | Arrowmaster | theoddone33: class? |
| 08:58.59 | Dustwhisper- | why vhaarr ? |
| 08:59.00 | theoddone33 | paladin |
| 08:59.15 | vhaarr | they'll take away my motivation for staying |
| 08:59.29 | Dustwhisper- | it'll probably be competetive but i would think that with the introduction of say a bossmod they'd introduce better/more intuitive API/Events for that |
| 08:59.36 | Iceroth | how many of you switched to blizz floating combat text from SCT/MSBT(/Parrot) when it came out? i sure didn't |
| 08:59.38 | hamunaptra | you stay in a game because of 2 addons? that sounds sad... |
| 09:00.02 | winkiller | if you develop them... |
| 09:00.03 | Diao | he wrote them |
| 09:00.12 | Diao | and yeah |
| 09:00.13 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I always considered addons as "temporary things". There was always a chance blizz will implement any of them, like they did with SCT. still, their SCT implementation still sucks, so most players still used community addons for that |
| 09:00.18 | Diao | i don't know anyone who uses FCT |
| 09:00.31 | vhaarr | mitch0: I know, but they didn't MENTION bigwigs |
| 09:00.42 | vhaarr | how the fuck can they say "like DBM", god that pisses me off |
| 09:00.48 | vhaarr | closetgnome they forget, that's fine |
| 09:00.52 | vhaarr | but not bw |
| 09:00.55 | mitch0 | so as long as the threat thing will have an api to use, Omen, Assessment and the rest would stay. Threat-1.0 will be obsolate |
| 09:01.03 | vhaarr | BW has been used on ALL the world first kills on new bosses |
| 09:01.08 | theoddone33 | I need a photo pasting program |
| 09:01.09 | vhaarr | almost |
| 09:01.13 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr's just angry because only DBM got mentioned and BigWigs didnt, and that DBM steals BigWigs code all the time |
| 09:01.23 | vhaarr | indeed they do |
| 09:01.25 | winkiller | theoddone33: it's called ctrl+v :P |
| 09:01.32 | vhaarr | look at the BT mods, and Supremus, for example |
| 09:01.32 | mitch0 | vhaarr: well, maybe you should mail them about it? let them add a credits in the patch notes? |
| 09:01.35 | theoddone33 | well I want to combine four screenshots into one photo |
| 09:01.36 | vhaarr | we had a supremus mod at beta |
| 09:01.38 | vhaarr | they just added one |
| 09:01.45 | vhaarr | and they call the non-running phase "Tank and Spank" |
| 09:01.52 | vhaarr | like I called it "Tank & Spank" |
| 09:02.34 | hamunaptra | that's the joy of opensource^^ |
| 09:02.43 | vhaarr | man fuck them |
| 09:02.48 | Dustwhisper- | you still aren't allowed to steal/ripoff |
| 09:02.49 | vhaarr | I just want blizzard to recognize us |
| 09:02.50 | Dustwhisper- | without mentioning it |
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| 09:03.09 | baer_ | goooood mooooorning! |
| 09:03.19 | hamunaptra | well, my guild (200ppl) use BW because I told them to :) |
| 09:03.45 | baer_ | BW? |
| 09:03.52 | Dustwhisper- | bigwigs |
| 09:03.53 | hamunaptra | i like it better than dbm, cheer up vhaarr :) |
| 09:03.58 | mitch0 | dustwhisper: depends on the license |
| 09:04.00 | Diao | same with my guild |
| 09:04.19 | theoddone33 | the surprising results from dr damage is that 9 int (0.12% spell crit) gives me more healing until OOM than +10 heal and 3 mp5 |
| 09:04.23 | theoddone33 | as a paladin |
| 09:04.25 | theoddone33 | which makes sense |
| 09:04.31 | Tupsi | uhh its still morning for me, what did they rip now? |
| 09:04.33 | hamunaptra | voicechat is also never going to replace TS/ventrillo, so let blizz do as they like... |
| 09:04.33 | theoddone33 | I'm just surprised it's that big a difference |
| 09:04.43 | mitch0 | with GPL you can "ripoff" without mention of the original, as long as it stays GPL. with PD you can do whatever you like. I don't know what license BigWigs comes with though |
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| 09:04.55 | Diao | what i don't get is |
| 09:04.57 | vhaarr | NCSA |
| 09:04.59 | vhaarr | 2.5 |
| 09:05.00 | Diao | why do paladins from like nihilum |
| 09:05.02 | Diao | stack +healing |
| 09:05.04 | Diao | over intellect |
| 09:05.06 | Diao | for enchants |
| 09:05.14 | baer_ | ah :) |
| 09:05.15 | Diao | mathcraft shows that int would give better results o_O |
| 09:05.27 | theoddone33 | it depends on the fight dynamics I suppose |
| 09:05.27 | Arrowmaster | my guild all used BigWigs but then we merged with another guild that used DBM, officially we require BigWigs but theres still people using DBM |
| 09:05.38 | ZealotOnAStick | mathcraft doesn't always apply to real raid situations. |
| 09:05.49 | baer_ | Arrowmaster, their problem, right? |
| 09:05.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Most Paladins in endgame raiding, aren't much concerned about going OOM. |
| 09:06.04 | MoonWolf | thank god for the shadowpriests |
| 09:06.08 | MoonWolf | heal my mana, bitch. |
| 09:06.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Shadow priests, Wisdom, Mana Spring, consumables . . . |
| 09:06.19 | Diao | lol |
| 09:06.23 | baer_ | actually nearly 60% of my raid group uses bigwigs |
| 09:06.24 | mitch0 | vhaarr: and about the DBM mention, probly that guy (the developer or whoever spoke) was just using that and not BigWigs, so that's why he named that |
| 09:06.29 | winkiller | we used DBM because people wouldn't get BigWigs for themselves, so DBM on spam mode made sure everyone got the msgs (according to the people spamming :P) |
| 09:06.30 | Arrowmaster | yeah although i was starting to get really annoied by the guildmaster still having DBM installed and set to annouce to raidwarning when he said he switched to BigWigs |
| 09:06.38 | Arrowmaster | although thats not a problem since thursday now |
| 09:06.40 | ZealotOnAStick | It's those bigger quick heals (FoL spam) that more often than not make the difference between death or not. |
| 09:06.50 | MoonWolf | hell no |
| 09:06.51 | Silviu- | vhaarr but i saw they mentioned bigwigs |
| 09:06.52 | mitch0 | he's probably running KTM, too... |
| 09:07.00 | MoonWolf | its the 600 per tick lifeblooms |
| 09:07.04 | CIA-23 | 03jerry 07jerry * r45981 10Grid/Grid/ (GridLayout.lua GridStatus.lua): Grid (branch): merge the last changes to the trunk |
| 09:07.07 | vhaarr | Silviu-: where? |
| 09:07.09 | MoonWolf | plus rejuvination and regrowth |
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| 09:07.41 | Diao | well |
| 09:07.47 | Diao | bigwigs sends to raidwarning |
| 09:07.48 | Diao | doesn't it |
| 09:07.55 | vhaarr | it can |
| 09:07.58 | ZealotOnAStick | it can. |
| 09:08.05 | ZealotOnAStick | doesn't by default, as far as I remember. |
| 09:08.10 | vhaarr | indeed it does not |
| 09:08.15 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:08.15 | ZealotOnAStick | it also has bossblock enabled by default. |
| 09:08.17 | Diao | but just saying |
| 09:08.19 | Diao | [02:06:51] (winkiller): we used DBM because people wouldn't get BigWigs for themselves, so DBM on spam mode made sure everyone got the msgs (according to the people spamming :P) |
| 09:08.21 | Diao | that's pointless then :P |
| 09:08.23 | MoonWolf | someone make a mana generated plugin for violation |
| 09:08.28 | Silviu- | [11:38:40] <F'mitch0> 4.6.3A Yes, the UI will get some very nice features. First off it will introduce an itemrack/Outfitter like feature. Basically it will allow you to easily swap gear compilations. However, it?s just not that; it will also introduce storage for those items. If that?s not enough, you can also expect a Big-wigs/Deadly boss mods like warning system. Last but not least; a build-in threat-meter! |
| 09:08.31 | Diao | isn't there already a mana regen mod? |
| 09:08.32 | MoonWolf | so the shadowpriests can brag about that. |
| 09:08.37 | Silviu- | Big-wigs/Deadly boss mods |
| 09:08.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Not really, Diao: people using BigWigs don't need the spam. |
| 09:08.41 | vhaarr | Silviu-: I've no idea where that's copied from |
| 09:08.44 | Diao | ah |
| 09:08.50 | winkiller | Diao: as I said, not my fault |
| 09:08.51 | Silviu- | Ah me neighter ;) |
| 09:10.14 | Iceroth | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=305842072&sid=1&pageNo=1 : 4.6.3 |
| 09:10.55 | Punkie` | Diao: DBM almost plays the game for you, BW does not |
| 09:10.59 | Diao | i think there's a fubar plugin that tracks vt somewhere |
| 09:10.59 | Dustwhisper- | Has it been verified that patch 2.3 and 2.4 will be out BEFORE Northrend ? |
| 09:11.09 | Diao | forgot what it's called though |
| 09:11.27 | Iceroth | there's a link to the vid as well, check what they say, can't really listen it at the office right now |
| 09:12.04 | Diao | it has to be Dustwhisper- |
| 09:12.11 | Diao | they said wotlk is version 3.0 |
| 09:12.33 | Diao | so any 2.x will be out first ;p |
| 09:12.34 | vhaarr | Iceroth: That's what I watched, they only say DBM |
| 09:12.36 | vhaarr | not BW |
| 09:12.57 | vhaarr | so Schwick added that himself |
| 09:15.46 | mitch0 | would someone on the .us side help me with some self promo? :) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=885018974&sid=1 <- this posts ask for http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7297-RangeDisplay.html |
| 09:17.45 | Diao | sure |
| 09:17.46 | Diao | 1 sec |
| 09:18.10 | Diao | done |
| 09:19.11 | mitch0 | many thanks :) |
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| 09:22.11 | Dustwhisper- | I'd love rangecheck support in agUf |
| 09:22.22 | Roartindon | Dustwhisper-: use aUF_Rangecheck? |
| 09:22.22 | Dustwhisper- | to have a little widget showing approximated range to target |
| 09:22.59 | CIA-23 | 03athou * r45982 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 09:22.59 | CIA-23 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 09:22.59 | CIA-23 | - new option: append group number to names in raid announce |
| 09:23.07 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45983 10Grid/ (6 files): Grid: update koKR locale |
| 09:23.11 | Dustwhisper- | never got that to work tbh Roartindon |
| 09:23.20 | Roartindon | Dustwhisper-: Are you a healer? |
| 09:23.30 | Dustwhisper- | mage |
| 09:25.19 | Roartindon | Dustwhisper-: Get aUF_RangeCheck_M then I think |
| 09:25.55 | Grum | mitch0: lol that is a funny addon :) |
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| 09:29.05 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45984 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 09:29.05 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: |
| 09:29.05 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 09:33.42 | CIA-23 | 03arkayenro * r45985 10ArkInventory/ (9 files): |
| 09:33.42 | CIA-23 | ArkInventory: |
| 09:33.42 | CIA-23 | - v2.08c |
| 09:38.50 | Wobin | !c us argent dawn troth |
| 09:38.58 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Troth, Level 69 Human Priest (8/0/51). 5740 HP; 7735 Mana; 195 mana regen; 10 mp5; 138 spell crit; 3 spell hit; 445 +spell dmg; 459 +heal; 4.75% dodge; +3 all resists; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2weqaz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/yobxdl ]] |
| 09:40.26 | MoonWolf | !c us Kaejin Sisters of elune |
| 09:40.28 | ThraeBot | MoonWolf: elune is not the character you are looking for! |
| 09:40.43 | MoonWolf | !c us Sisters of elune Kaejin |
| 09:40.50 | ThraeBot | MoonWolf: Kaejin, Level 63 Troll Priest (0/2/52). 4386 HP; 6254 Mana; 196 mana regen; 4 mp5; 138 spell crit; 16 spell hit; 357 +spell dmg/heal; 5.45% dodge; +20 all resists; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ngc5c ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/27j5ar ]] |
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| 09:41.00 | winkiller | us has some weird server names.. |
| 09:42.09 | syeren | !c eu Dentarg Ausmara |
| 09:42.18 | ThraeBot | syeren: Ausmara, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (28/33/0). 12171 HP; 8925 Mana; 199 mana regen; 61 mp5; 3803 Armour; 15 spell hit; 69 +spell dmg; 1222 +heal; 4.82% dodge; 504 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo72j5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/28tl5p ]] |
| 09:42.21 | baer_ | !c eu todeswache gingles |
| 09:42.28 | ThraeBot | baer_: Gingles, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (0/21/40). 8755 HP; 8971 Mana; 131 mana regen; 4 mp5; 203 spell crit; 97 spell hit; 1041 +spell dmg; 172 arcane dmg (1213); 221 fire dmg (1262); 4.47% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24j5ws ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wst4r ]] |
| 09:42.46 | theoddone33 | sisters of elune? that's a long server name |
| 09:42.53 | theoddone33 | or a weird one at least |
| 09:43.09 | baer_ | theoddone33, as well as in europe -> "die silberne hand" for example. |
| 09:43.10 | theoddone33 | I wondered if they would run out of names, I guess that answers it |
| 09:46.09 | nevcairiel | die silberne hand isnt that bad |
| 09:46.16 | nevcairiel | the order of the silver hand is deep in lore |
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| 09:52.59 | mitch0 | grum: what's funny about it? |
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| 09:57.01 | odt | !c eu Al'Akir Odt |
| 09:57.08 | ThraeBot | odt: Odt, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (41/20/0). 9027 HP; 9408 Mana; 214 mana regen; 124 mp5; 13985 Armour; 72.5 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 185 spell crit; 191 +spell dmg; 1477 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5% block; 99 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ys3uog ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ndktf ]] |
| 09:58.14 | xlvii | !c us Thaurissan Shari |
| 09:58.23 | ThraeBot | xlvii: Shari, Level 70 Undead Rogue (19/42/0). 6784 HP; 1514 AP; 324.2 Melee DPS; 17.18% melee crit; 187 melee hit; 21.74% dodge; 4 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22kv78 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uulc7 ]] |
| 10:00.48 | Wobin | !c us argent dawn starien |
| 10:00.54 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Starien, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/45/16). 8974 HP; 4310 Mana; 111 mana regen; 630 AP; 118.8 Melee DPS; 10.29% melee crit; 27 melee hit; 154 defense; 16.88% dodge; 98 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrpwls ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3b9vuz ]] |
| 10:01.03 | abbat_w | crap |
| 10:01.10 | abbat_w | !c eu warsong immoralist |
| 10:01.17 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/6/55). 10013 HP; 7961 Mana; 125 mana regen; 164 spell crit; 47 spell hit; 789 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; 474 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ytd85 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bavfk ]] |
| 10:01.32 | Punkie` | anyone have al link to that 'armory lite edition' that someone made? |
| 10:01.48 | abbat_w | btw |
| 10:01.59 | Punkie` | the armory does nothing but fuck me off every time i visit it |
| 10:02.15 | abbat_w | If you won't spam in channel, ThraeBot accept command in pvt. Just remove "!" |
| 10:04.00 | Punkie` | i just want the link to armory lite edition :( |
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| 10:13.30 | abbat_w | Guys, someone have doc or link to forum thread with description of ParseLib / Parser ? |
| 10:13.37 | abbat_w | don't find anything at wowace ;( |
| 10:13.42 | Grum | mitch0: very nice idea :) and stunned how accurate it can be :) |
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| 10:14.54 | silentium | can anyone point me to an addon that always shows party buffs/debuffs with the default unitframes, not only on mouseover? my gf says she tried buffalo2 but it mixed up the buff symbols every once in a while |
| 10:15.14 | mitch0 | grum: eh. glad you like it :) |
| 10:15.25 | silentium | I told her UF addons have that built-in but she prefers the default unit frames somehow |
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| 10:17.08 | CIA-23 | 03helium * r45986 10FuBar/FuBar-Locale-zhTW.lua: FuBar: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:18.33 | Punkie` | silentium: the mixed up buff symbols is a blizzard bug |
| 10:18.55 | Cyrez | ^ |
| 10:19.01 | Punkie` | if she tabs out when buffs are applied around her she can get different icons |
| 10:19.14 | Punkie` | reloading the UI will fix it |
| 10:19.46 | Cyrez | ~blame Blizzard |
| 10:19.46 | purl | ACTION blames Blizzard (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 10:20.05 | Punkie` | silentium: it will happen even when they are displayed on unitframes |
| 10:20.28 | silentium | hmkay, nasty but obviously not the addon devs' fault then |
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| 10:20.40 | Punkie` | not at all |
| 10:20.43 | silentium | I'll tell her to alt-tab less often then ;) |
| 10:21.01 | Punkie` | or just /rl if her buffs are messed up ;) |
| 10:21.25 | Cyrez | W00t. |
| 10:21.27 | CIA-23 | 03xbeeps * r45987 10VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua: |
| 10:21.27 | CIA-23 | VisualHeal: |
| 10:21.27 | CIA-23 | - Fixed error at health change. |
| 10:21.32 | silentium | ok, thanks for making clear :) |
| 10:21.36 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 10:22.57 | Punkie` | ammo go make the candybar icons look pretty kkthxbye |
| 10:23.08 | [Ammo] | blargh |
| 10:23.17 | Punkie` | :D |
| 10:26.08 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r45988 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: |
| 10:26.08 | CIA-23 | CandyBar-2.0: zoom icon texture a tad |
| 10:26.08 | CIA-23 | ~whalefu punkie` |
| 10:29.12 | abbat_w | =) |
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| 10:31.56 | Punkie` | woohoo |
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| 10:46.59 | CIA-23 | 03athou * r45989 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 10:46.59 | CIA-23 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 10:46.59 | CIA-23 | - added a 'replace' option for each buff that replaces names with group number in raid announce when the whole group is missing the buff |
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| 11:06.27 | CIA-23 | 03helium * r45990 10FuBar_ArenaFu/ (4 files): |
| 11:06.27 | CIA-23 | FuBar_ArenaFu : |
| 11:06.27 | CIA-23 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 11:06.27 | CIA-23 | - added short text localization |
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| 11:23.39 | CIA-23 | 03poull 07poull * r45991 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: PallyPower: Fixed permissions and list of paladins for player buttons menu in config. |
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| 11:24.24 | cncfanatics | ~seen Cyrez |
| 11:24.26 | purl | cyrez is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 164 messages. Is idling for 1h 3m 1s, last said: 'W00t.'. |
| 11:24.31 | cncfanatics | ping Cyrez :p |
| 11:25.32 | Grum | for paladins- is the 'buffing of pets' the same as buffing a class? 'groupbuff' 1 pet and buff all orso? |
| 11:28.08 | Diao | good question |
| 11:28.15 | [dRaCo] | yes |
| 11:28.17 | Diao | don't think i've ever seen a paladin buff pets unless specifically asked to |
| 11:28.17 | Diao | lol |
| 11:28.41 | [dRaCo] | pets are treated just like any class |
| 11:30.08 | Grum | nice to knoiw |
| 11:30.20 | Grum | the pallies in our guild are starting to use PallyPower now |
| 11:30.29 | Grum | and they never assign buffs to the pets (so i tend to do that) |
| 11:30.39 | Grum | just curious if that blends in nicely with the rest of their buffing methods |
| 11:30.47 | Grum | BoK/BoM for pets rawr! ;D |
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| 11:31.01 | Grum | BoS is hardly ever needed :D |
| 11:31.12 | Grum | and kinda silly come to think of it ;D |
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| 11:45.16 | cncfanatics | BoS on a pet ? :o |
| 11:45.34 | cncfanatics | if a pet overaggros whatever tank said tank should leave the raid asap |
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| 11:55.25 | winkiller | lol |
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| 12:03.02 | grom358 | is ag_unitframe the most used wowace unit frame addon? |
| 12:03.20 | [dRaCo] | I think pitbull's got more users by now |
| 12:03.24 | grom358 | i was looking for any possible Nurfed UI replacements |
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| 12:07.21 | grom358 | does pitbull show portaits? |
| 12:08.16 | [dRaCo] | if you want it too |
| 12:08.18 | [dRaCo] | -o |
| 12:11.52 | grom358 | do u know of site with pitbull layouts. looking for look similiar to nurfed ui |
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| 12:15.03 | [dRaCo] | never used nurfed, but pitbull comes with some premade layouts |
| 12:15.08 | baer_ | btw, someone tried multi/dual-boxing here? |
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| 12:15.26 | winkiller | I use /follow - does that count? |
| 12:15.33 | [dRaCo] | I'd suggest just installing it and see if you like them |
| 12:15.47 | baer_ | grom358, it does; and with installed SharedMedia there are even more pre-installed layouts :) |
| 12:15.53 | baer_ | winkiller, nope :-} |
| 12:15.57 | CIA-23 | 03helium * r45992 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-zhTW.lua: FuBar_BagFu: updated zhTW localization |
| 12:16.26 | baer_ | some here remembers this xzin guy? |
| 12:16.30 | grom358 | where are these premade layouts.. I gone none to select from? |
| 12:16.57 | kbh | haha, i was about to say - i have sharedmedia installed and updated and i see no such thing! |
| 12:17.20 | alext | baer_: i have, why |
| 12:17.44 | baer_ | alext, i plan to install a dual-box, but i've no idea, where to start. |
| 12:17.59 | kbh | get a second rig and use a wireless keyboard |
| 12:18.02 | baer_ | right now i own 2 boxed (1 winxp, 1 gentoo-linux) |
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| 12:18.25 | baer_ | bought my 2nd cd key this morning. |
| 12:18.27 | [dRaCo] | grom358: just rightclick the unitframe you want to customize... |
| 12:18.31 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45993 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/localization.lua: |
| 12:18.31 | CIA-23 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:18.31 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 12:18.57 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 12:19.23 | alext | cool, theres nothing really special about setting up 2 |
| 12:19.36 | kbh | the way i do it, is i have 2 identical wireless keyboards and just use 1 of them |
| 12:19.36 | alext | all I did was install wow on both machines with 2 keys |
| 12:19.44 | alext | copy my WTF and interface folders over |
| 12:19.45 | alext | and went at it |
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| 12:20.07 | baer_ | alext, do you play on both boxes at the same time? |
| 12:20.19 | kbh | i have a warrior on one account and a mage on another |
| 12:20.44 | grom358 | i getting no layouts.. I install Pitbull using the wowace updater |
| 12:20.45 | kbh | i push 3, and it heats up fireball on one account, and the warrior on the other charges in |
| 12:21.09 | baer_ | kbh, i'm curious; how did you manage that? |
| 12:21.59 | kbh | its quite simple really, since the keyboard acts as input for both i have a blank actionbar and no keybindings whatsoever on the warrior account |
| 12:22.33 | kbh | then, in his actionbars i set 1 to a /follow mage macro |
| 12:22.47 | baer_ | ok, but how does your keyboard control 2 boxes? |
| 12:24.18 | kbh | you get 2 identical wireless keyboards, hook up the signal recievers to both computers, and just sync them both to 1 keyboard |
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| 12:25.51 | alext | baer_: yah |
| 12:25.56 | alext | in my setup tho, i got a laptop and a desktop |
| 12:26.02 | alext | the laptop I put right next to my desktop keyboard |
| 12:26.08 | alext | and then its just a matter of getting used to it |
| 12:26.17 | baer_ | kbh, hmmm. nice idea. |
| 12:27.31 | kbh | its how most multiboxers do it |
| 12:27.52 | grom358 | what are these numbers on my actionbars that pitbull seems to be adding? |
| 12:27.56 | alext | man i dunno how I could adjust to that 1 keyboard and 2 boxes |
| 12:28.11 | kbh | you really have to set things up for 1 thing and 1 thing only |
| 12:28.15 | baer_ | ok, actually i have such a setup :) |
| 12:28.43 | alext | I guess either way works ;] |
| 12:28.48 | baer_ | but it seems the signal of my kb is not strong enough -> 1 logitech itouch and 3 recv |
| 12:29.17 | Pkekyo | my guildie has a little problem with Omen...just installed it, and it only shows his threat and nobody else's...what could it be? |
| 12:29.17 | baer_ | i wondered, if there's some other way. |
| 12:29.17 | baer_ | Pkekyo, playing solo? :-pppp |
| 12:29.17 | alext | baer_: well another way is what I mentioned, 2 keyboards |
| 12:29.17 | winkiller | Pkekyo: no one else has a threatmeter? |
| 12:29.19 | baer_ | sorry, just kidding. |
| 12:29.46 | baer_ | alext, ok, but using 2 keyboards is kinda heavy, since i have only 2 hands :) |
| 12:29.50 | alext | with the 2 keyboard setup, I can move both characters at the same time but I can only cast or hit on one of them |
| 12:29.57 | alext | shrug |
| 12:30.02 | alext | its really not hard once you train yourself how to do it |
| 12:30.26 | baer_ | ok, but the thing with the 2+ receivers is fine, i'll try it. |
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| 12:30.31 | Pkekyo | winkiller: it's not that....I remember having that happen to me first time I installed Omen as well, but can't remember what it was |
| 12:31.47 | grom358 | any idea what these numbers are on my actionbar that pitbull has added? |
| 12:32.09 | kbh | what kinda numbers are they? |
| 12:33.01 | grom358 | like on fireblast it has 1428 |
| 12:33.17 | mort | uninstall drdamage... |
| 12:33.21 | Pkekyo | winkiller: I just tested with him in group, we both have omen, and he didn't show up on either of our threat meters |
| 12:33.30 | CIA-23 | 03xbeeps * r45994 10HealCommLib/ (HealComm-2.0/ HealCommLib.toc): |
| 12:33.30 | CIA-23 | HealCommLib: |
| 12:33.30 | CIA-23 | - Delete |
| 12:33.31 | baer_ | alext, kbh: is there any way to sync the movement? |
| 12:33.32 | kbh | were you guys fighting things? |
| 12:33.34 | winkiller | no clue |
| 12:33.35 | grom358 | oh.. its damage |
| 12:34.06 | baer_ | e.g. a mob kicks on of the chars back. |
| 12:34.16 | baer_ | s/on/one/ |
| 12:34.35 | grom358 | i still can't seem to get any layouts.. I just installed sharedmedia.. what else? |
| 12:34.47 | kbh | baer_: /follow works pretty well |
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| 12:35.08 | baer_ | grom358, did you install all needed dependancies for pitbull & SharedMedia ? |
| 12:35.46 | grom358 | i believe so. I using wowace updater |
| 12:35.51 | baer_ | kbh, never really worked with /follow in the game, doesn't it work for smalled distances, only? |
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| 12:36.07 | kbh | the distances are actually pretty far |
| 12:36.14 | baer_ | grom358, double check :) |
| 12:36.39 | baer_ | and use the "Install/Update Marked Addons WITH Externals" option in your WAU. |
| 12:36.42 | kbh | if my warrior charged out of follow range i would just run by him, hit the macro for him to collow me and "pick him up" so to speak |
| 12:36.50 | CIA-23 | 03xbeeps * r45995 10HealCommLib/: Removed file/folder |
| 12:37.11 | kbh | then i would hit charge again on someone else |
| 12:37.19 | baer_ | kbh, so you using your ?mouse? to move your "primary" char? |
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| 12:37.28 | kbh | yes, mouse and wasd |
| 12:37.49 | baer_ | ok, but wasd would move your secondary character as well? |
| 12:37.59 | kbh | unbind wasd on that toon |
| 12:38.02 | kbh | to nothing |
| 12:38.06 | baer_ | ok... |
| 12:39.01 | kbh | only downfall was that i couldent "click" abilities for the warrior |
| 12:39.31 | kbh | but it was easy enough to just bind not so often used things for him to F1-F12 |
| 12:39.53 | baer_ | kbh, i have a nice fix for this. |
| 12:39.59 | baer_ | ever heard of "synergy" ? |
| 12:40.03 | kbh | no |
| 12:40.11 | Xuerian | synergy is fun |
| 12:40.33 | baer_ | it's some kind of freeware interconnection tool between desktop environments... |
| 12:40.41 | kbh | some sort of network input app or the like? |
| 12:40.44 | Xuerian | kbh: It's a software kvm |
| 12:40.47 | baer_ | yes. |
| 12:40.48 | kbh | aaaah |
| 12:41.03 | baer_ | try http://synergy2.sf.net |
| 12:41.04 | Xuerian | Allows seamless switching between computers just like it were two monitors |
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| 12:41.17 | grom358 | baer_: still no layouts to choose from |
| 12:41.20 | baer_ | it works fine for winxp and unix/linux X |
| 12:41.27 | kbh | O.O |
| 12:41.32 | baer_ | grom358, this is strange indeed. |
| 12:41.35 | kbh | ME WANT |
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| 12:41.57 | baer_ | kbh, to be honest i use it right now to connect my ol' linux box with my t60-laptop. |
| 12:42.00 | mort | there is a forum thread full with different layouts to pick from |
| 12:42.16 | baer_ | i hate using anything else than my logitech itouch on 3 boxes :-} |
| 12:42.42 | [dRaCo] | grom358: does pitbull work? |
| 12:42.42 | grom358 | one thing I want todo is move the buffs and debuffs for my target to below the target frame, so I can have target target next to it |
| 12:42.48 | grom358 | yeah.. its working |
| 12:42.57 | grom358 | just go no layouts to choose form |
| 12:43.00 | grom358 | from* |
| 12:43.11 | kbh | thats not really a layout option, you can do that yourself |
| 12:43.19 | [dRaCo] | mind making a screenshot of the config menu? |
| 12:44.28 | baer_ | btw, does anyone here use Postman? |
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| 12:45.09 | kbh | shiftrightclick the unitframe, go Other > Auras > Side , and select "Bottom" |
| 12:45.17 | grom358 | thanks |
| 12:45.29 | CIA-23 | 03helium * r45996 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFuLocale-zhTW.lua: FuBar_ClockFu: updated zhTW localization |
| 12:45.36 | CIA-23 | 03helium * r45997 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-zhTW.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu: updated zhTW localization |
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| 12:46.25 | grom358 | are the debuffs suppose to indent from the buff rows? |
| 12:46.36 | kbh | like be under? |
| 12:46.46 | kbh | on the proverbial "second line" |
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| 12:47.31 | grom358 | well.. I got configuration mode party on.. the debuff for target are like 4th row and they are indent over 3 columns |
| 12:47.38 | grom358 | compared to the buff icons |
| 12:48.14 | kbh | try turning down the number of debuffs |
| 12:48.47 | kbh | or just turning auras off for target of target alltogether |
| 12:49.58 | grom358 | can u have target of target target's? |
| 12:50.23 | nevcairiel | you can chain target as many times as you want |
| 12:50.40 | nevcairiel | targettargettarget |
| 12:51.28 | grom358 | how do i add it? |
| 12:52.36 | [dRaCo] | open pitbull's menu and click extra units |
| 12:56.09 | kbh | anybody know of any guild note managing mods? |
| 12:56.42 | Grum | guildnote? |
| 12:57.05 | Grum | notepad about guildies? notes on guildies? notes on persons (friends/guildies) ? |
| 12:57.19 | Grum | sharable with officers? personal use only? |
| 12:57.38 | kbh | the in game notes, maybe a way to dynamically change them or change them en masse |
| 12:58.12 | kbh | what it says under "note" in the guild tab in game |
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| 13:00.34 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45998 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 13:00.34 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: |
| 13:00.34 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 13:01.23 | grom358 | how can I get my buffs to display in HH:MM:SS format? |
| 13:04.41 | grom358 | nvm.. seriousBuffTimers ftw |
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| 13:12.11 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45999 10fmBuffCheck/ (4 files): |
| 13:12.11 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 13:12.11 | CIA-23 | - implemented event driven buff report processing |
| 13:12.11 | CIA-23 | - should handle raids, groups and solo situations well |
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| 13:13.15 | |Stan| | Antiarc|Work: you cowtip config sometimes shows me "{}" after the name of the player |
| 13:13.58 | grom358 | with pitbull can u change size of portait? |
| 13:14.18 | |Stan| | Antiarc|Work: hm ok, that happens when the player not yet has a profession |
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| 13:24.02 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather ketsjup |
| 13:24.08 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Ketsjup, Level 70 Undead Priest (15/46/0). 7061 HP; 8790 Mana; 266 mana regen; 69 mp5; 36 spell crit; 5 spell hit; 217 +spell dmg; 1238 +heal; 4.9% dodge; 32 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywsrqk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2s5hvj ]] |
| 13:24.17 | Pkekyo | can anyone tell me what a 15/46/0 specc is for a priest? |
| 13:24.44 | [dRaCo] | disci/holy :þ |
| 13:25.09 | Pkekyo | for some reason the priest kept pulling aggro on the first gatewatcher in heroic mech...wiped the group twice >.< |
| 13:26.39 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r46000 10fmBuffCheck/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua fmBuffCheck.lua): |
| 13:26.39 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 13:26.39 | CIA-23 | - made communication timeout configurable |
| 13:27.03 | grom358 | why isn't there a battleground module for BigWigs. eg tower cap and gy cap timers? |
| 13:27.24 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxRhzhZfxtcfMqVhVo <--- that's what I would suppose |
| 13:27.47 | Pkekyo | any idea why he kept pulling aggro off me? |
| 13:27.50 | Megalon | grom358: Because it's a bossmod, install Capping if you need bg timers |
| 13:28.43 | grom358 | megalon: is that wowace ? |
| 13:28.51 | Pkekyo | it's annoying the living shit out of me |
| 13:28.55 | Megalon | yes |
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| 13:28.57 | Pkekyo | grom358: to the best of my recollection, yes |
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| 13:29.05 | [Ammo] | yeah capping is on files.wowace.com |
| 13:29.16 | [Ammo] | and bigwigs will never have pvp stuff, it's a pve addon |
| 13:29.19 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: if the healer aggros, you're not producing enough threat. |
| 13:29.52 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: I'm doing the same thing as usual, and that's the first time I've ever lost aggro on that boss...and I've done him a million times |
| 13:30.11 | xyu | [dRaCo] i made the same spec so, i'm guessing that's about right ^^ |
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| 13:30.35 | xb95 | Pkekyo: what [dRaCo] said, also, maybe he didn't take the reduced threat talent?, or you're taking too much damage (gear not good enough?) so he has to heal you too much relative to your threat generation. |
| 13:30.53 | Pkekyo | I find it odd that the priest managed to pull aggro, but the overnuking firemage didn't... |
| 13:31.09 | Pkekyo | xb95: this is me: |
| 13:31.09 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 13:31.11 | [dRaCo] | even with unreduced aggro he should be able to heal |
| 13:31.17 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 13150 HP; 13338 Armour; 642 AP; 111.9 Melee DPS; 10.62% melee crit; 45 melee hit; 303 defense; 18.58% dodge; 23.15% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytatlc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okjqb ]] |
| 13:31.19 | Megalon | Pkekyo: he has not specced -20% threat |
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| 13:31.41 | Megalon | and perhaps he spammed circle of healing to heal just everyone |
| 13:31.41 | Pkekyo | probably must've been that + all the critheals then |
| 13:31.43 | Megalon | ho lost hp |
| 13:31.45 | xb95 | 303 defense? |
| 13:31.53 | Pkekyo | the defense value is wrong |
| 13:31.55 | Pkekyo | I have 498 |
| 13:31.55 | Megalon | xb95: the bot lists rating |
| 13:31.55 | nevcairiel | thats defense rating |
| 13:32.00 | xb95 | oh heh |
| 13:32.07 | xb95 | I was going to say, isn't the cap around 500... |
| 13:32.17 | Pkekyo | the cap is 490 for warriors |
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| 13:32.27 | Pkekyo | 419 or 416 or something for feralols with talents |
| 13:32.32 | Pkekyo | don't know about tankadins |
| 13:32.45 | xb95 | yeah, doesn't seem to be your gear |
| 13:32.56 | Pkekyo | nah, I've done heroic mech a million times |
| 13:33.13 | [dRaCo] | 415 for druids, 490 for paladins |
| 13:33.16 | xb95 | was the healer by chance trying to "help" and using SW:P and stuff on the boss? |
| 13:33.43 | Pkekyo | might be, I was kinda busy tanking, so I didn't check what dots belonged to who |
| 13:34.22 | xb95 | did you lose aggro during/right after the red phase? (and if so were you whacking it through that? it makes healers have to heal you pretty heavily...) |
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| 13:35.04 | xb95 | that or him not having the reduced threat talent is the only thing I can think of tbh :/ |
| 13:35.33 | xyu | fade ftw |
| 13:35.35 | Amadeo | If you disable an addon in your addon list that has dependencies, such as disable the main PitBull, and the rest of them are checked but grey out, do they still load anyway? |
| 13:37.06 | Pkekyo | xb95: no, I never lost aggro that I could tell...he just....died.... I was constantly spamming revenge, shield slam and devastate |
| 13:37.18 | xb95 | Pkekyo: oh! I thought he lost aggro! |
| 13:37.22 | xb95 | err, you lost aggro |
| 13:37.43 | xb95 | If he "just died" then it sounds like either you aren't using the wallhack tanking trick to keep the bombs away from everybody and he sucks, or he was too close to the edge |
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| 13:37.49 | Pkekyo | I didn't see losing aggro...I just saw the priest had fuckloads of threat on Omen and then I saw the priest being dead |
| 13:37.56 | Pkekyo | bombs? |
| 13:38.04 | xb95 | first boss heroic mech? the bomb guy? |
| 13:38.13 | Pkekyo | it's not that boss, it's the gatewatcher that only drops a heroic badge |
| 13:38.13 | xb95 | or do you mean the mini-boss gatewatcher thingum |
| 13:38.17 | xb95 | ohhh |
| 13:38.58 | Pkekyo | yeah, that's why I'm so puzzled |
| 13:39.02 | xb95 | okay, that sounds even more fucked up. i dunno man. :| |
| 13:39.17 | Pkekyo | I can't understand how the fuck it's possible to lose the healer there |
| 13:39.37 | Pkekyo | like...I've died there, but at like 3% boss health and the rest of the group have nuked him down...I've never EVER seen a wipe there before now |
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| 13:40.00 | xb95 | not on the first one.. I've seen people die on the second when he raises his hammer |
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| 13:40.25 | Pkekyo | yeah, but then you're supposed to run out... |
| 13:40.26 | xyu | he must be healing a great deal or something |
| 13:40.32 | xyu | i can't imagine him pulling healing aggro |
| 13:40.45 | Pkekyo | me neither, it all seems so weird |
| 13:40.49 | xyu | that mini boss doesn't even hit all that hard |
| 13:41.55 | Pkekyo | I just cant grasp what the hell really happened |
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| 13:43.12 | xb95 | some people just suck a lot :) |
| 13:43.55 | Pkekyo | after he left I whispered him and asked what happened...won't answer me...meh |
| 13:44.18 | Grum | find a new healer! |
| 13:45.02 | Pkekyo | meh, he, the rogue and huntard was friends...they all left group instantly after the second wipe |
| 13:45.17 | CIA-23 | 03celellach * r46001 10AtlasLoot/ (Core/Atlas1.10Compat.lua TableRegister/loottables.en.lua): |
| 13:45.17 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:45.17 | CIA-23 | - Added drops to the entrance maps |
| 13:48.28 | Pkekyo | !c eu sylvanas Allianna |
| 13:48.35 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Allianna, Level 62 Night Elf Druid (0/0/53). 4900 HP; 6634 Mana; 215 mana regen; 46 mp5; 4.45% melee crit; 46 spell crit; 101 +spell dmg; 473 +heal; 4.79% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytbjaw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35q4ze ]] |
| 13:55.29 | Pkekyo | 100g primal nether fee sounds about right, no? |
| 13:55.41 | Grum | yeah cheap |
| 13:55.54 | Grum | just 8 dailies =D |
| 13:55.56 | [dRaCo] | 150g is the avg price on my server |
| 13:56.12 | Grum | 100-250 is what we see, with 150 regularly |
| 13:56.13 | Pkekyo | I'd wish I had epic BS plans when the nether fees was up at 200g :< |
| 13:56.56 | Grum | some dude at our server had all of em |
| 13:57.03 | Grum | and paid people to get nethers |
| 13:57.10 | Grum | made craploads of cash of that =D |
| 13:57.17 | Grum | getting 2-4 nethers a day for some weeks |
| 13:57.26 | Bruners | nethers are easymode |
| 13:57.50 | Bruners | i even have one on my alt |
| 13:57.54 | Bruners | wich cant craft anything |
| 13:58.09 | Grum | the dude needed 3-5 per day |
| 13:58.15 | Grum | not so easymode then :) |
| 13:58.38 | Grum | hard-work-mode ;) (and much money making mode as well - netting 700-900g per item sale) |
| 13:58.44 | Grum | +profit |
| 14:00.20 | Amadeo | I still dunno what professions to do on my Paladin and Hunter |
| 14:00.20 | fireglow | Speeddymon: i added 3 potions to the "Potions" section in CooldownTimers2, including deDE locale, should i commit this? |
| 14:00.57 | Grum | Amadeo: mining+herbing :) |
| 14:01.05 | Grum | and alchemy/tailoring ;) |
| 14:01.28 | Amadeo | those are strange choices |
| 14:01.42 | Grum | howso? |
| 14:01.59 | Grum | get a fast mount on the mining/herbing one and gather yourself silly |
| 14:02.14 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r46002 10Assessment/Modules/CrowdControl.lua: |
| 14:02.14 | CIA-23 | Assessment |
| 14:02.14 | CIA-23 | - Added Seduction to crowd control spell list |
| 14:02.14 | CIA-23 | - Reordered for faster early outing |
| 14:02.17 | Grum | instead of tailoring you can ofc pick anything else |
| 14:02.20 | Grum | jewelcrafting orso |
| 14:02.33 | Grum | but tailoring allows you to make big bags :) |
| 14:02.40 | Amadeo | I like big bags and I cannot lie |
| 14:02.52 | Grum | and alchemy gives you supplies for raiding |
| 14:03.00 | Grum | and ofc level fishing+cooking :) |
| 14:03.23 | Grum | and take the gather professions on your hunter |
| 14:03.24 | Amadeo | I prefer PvP though! |
| 14:03.37 | Grum | that class is by far the easiest class to use for gathering :) |
| 14:03.56 | Amadeo | yeah, that's probably a good idea anyway, to make some money |
| 14:04.03 | Grum | although the +10% from crusader aura is also nice |
| 14:04.27 | Grum | but you cant run upto a mob, scatter+freeze+gather+runaway+FD and continue with a pally ;D |
| 14:04.33 | Amadeo | lol |
| 14:04.43 | Grum | it's like imba-easymode with a hunter :D |
| 14:05.03 | Amadeo | well, that's a ways off, I'm 19 with him :P |
| 14:05.11 | Grum | and if it's hard (fat elite) .. put pet far away - MD on pet == pull fat elite on pet .. gather, run away, FD =D |
| 14:05.43 | Grum | or a group .. just pull with misdirect scattershot ;) |
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| 14:06.47 | Amadeo | what's MD? |
| 14:09.05 | Megalon | misdirection |
| 14:09.14 | Amadeo | ahh |
| 14:09.17 | Amadeo | I thought it was Mend :) |
| 14:09.26 | Amadeo | I love how the new mend isn't channeled, first time I used it I thought I messed up |
| 14:09.50 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:13.01 | Amadeo | right now the worst part about my Hunter is that I have to get arrows so damn often |
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| 14:19.09 | jme | Amadeo: do you raid with your hunter? |
| 14:20.19 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r46003 10Assessment/Modules/CrowdControl.lua: |
| 14:20.19 | CIA-23 | Assessment |
| 14:20.19 | CIA-23 | - Unmarked Crowd Control as a favorite as it doesn't seem to be capturing all of the events it needs to |
| 14:21.57 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r46004 10Debug-1.0/DebugUI-1.0/util.lua: Debug-1.0: Fixed invalid name |
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| 14:25.18 | Borked|Raider | can you put up raidtargets in an arena? |
| 14:25.23 | Borked|Raider | raidicons |
| 14:25.26 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 14:25.28 | Borked|Raider | k |
| 14:26.30 | Amadeo | jme: Not at level 19 :P |
| 14:26.52 | jme | Amadeo: ah, hehe |
| 14:27.33 | art3mis | hrm |
| 14:27.36 | jme | "of course i'm a hero! where would azeroth turn for their assorted bug parts, mysteriously low-drop-rate boar gizzards, and immense piles of headdress feathers, if not for ME?!?!" |
| 14:27.39 | jme | haha |
| 14:28.01 | art3mis | freespire 2.0 is out and appearantly they've integrated flash java and proprietary media codecs |
| 14:28.25 | Amadeo | maybe one day :) |
| 14:29.10 | Pkekyo | how many % +hit is 210 hit rating? |
| 14:29.19 | art3mis | heh friend of mine kept trying to figure out where the market for greys wa since ALL vendors wanted them and in most cases paid decently, but to make a profit they must be reselling somewhere |
| 14:29.33 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: ~13% |
| 14:29.37 | Amadeo | art3mis: I think that's how Linux needs to be eventually, unless people have great free alternatives for everything people need |
| 14:30.30 | Pkekyo | 250 rating would be about ? |
| 14:30.39 | art3mis | amadeo: yeah but up until this point it was appearantly "illegal" to include things like that because of conflicting licence profiles |
| 14:30.56 | jme | Prince Keleseth is the first boss of Utgarde Keep. He is a Vrykul warlock in Tier 6 armor. |
| 14:31.10 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: 16 rating = 1% |
| 14:31.33 | art3mis | http://tinyurl.com/28b2sj |
| 14:31.49 | Amadeo | art3mis: Yeah, but a lot of distributions seem to do it |
| 14:32.05 | art3mis | depends on thier licencing |
| 14:32.13 | art3mis | fedora and suse dont because of that |
| 14:32.21 | art3mis | a lot of the knock off flavours however do |
| 14:32.30 | Pkekyo | ffs, wow-eu forums froze up on me :< |
| 14:33.01 | Pkekyo | I'm not done spamming yet! |
| 14:33.12 | Pkekyo | piece of shite forums |
| 14:34.29 | xb95 | Pkekyo: I'm playing my 43 warr; do you sunder when soloing in zerker stance? can't decide if sundering is helping any. |
| 14:35.22 | Chompers | i didn't |
| 14:35.26 | Chompers | found it a waste of rage |
| 14:35.45 | Amadeo | it's a waste if you're just killing for quests/exp |
| 14:35.53 | xb95 | that's what I'm thinking, most mobs don't seem to have armor worth sundering |
| 14:36.20 | [dRaCo] | sundering does increase your damage, but so does one more mortal strike ;) |
| 14:36.27 | xb95 | meh, I'm fury :) |
| 14:36.44 | [dRaCo] | then w/e your main attack is :> |
| 14:36.57 | kenlyric | cleave! |
| 14:36.57 | xb95 | lol, fair enough |
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| 14:42.31 | jme | hmm |
| 14:42.41 | jme | posted by a healing paladin in my guild forums: |
| 14:42.43 | Pkekyo | xb95: I never use sunder when not tanking tbh, and hardly even then...I use it to kill time between cooldowns and get rid of some extra rage |
| 14:42.48 | jme | "what I'd like is a better way to decurse - I wish the little unit frames with decursive linked/lined up with the nameplates in the raid boxes of ct_raid. Is there maybe an alternative to CT raid which would do this?" |
| 14:42.51 | Pkekyo | can someone post me a macro for setting and targetting focus? |
| 14:43.19 | jme | since i'm not a healer i can't give him an answer.. anyone know? |
| 14:43.22 | dodga | Pkekyo: /focus, and afaik /target focus |
| 14:43.30 | [dRaCo] | jme: make him use some clickcasting addon |
| 14:44.10 | Pkekyo | how to remove focus again? |
| 14:44.27 | dodga | Pkekyo: Hm, via a macro? |
| 14:44.35 | dodga | I just target nothing and set focus again |
| 14:44.57 | dodga | Uh, there is /clearfocus it seems |
| 14:44.58 | Pkekyo | thanks dodga |
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| 14:45.03 | dodga | Pkekyo: See http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro#What_is_.22focus.22.3F |
| 14:45.07 | jme | [dRaCo]: like what? |
| 14:45.17 | dodga | jme: Clique e.g. |
| 14:45.19 | [dRaCo] | click2cast or clique |
| 14:45.21 | Pkekyo | dodga: you gave me everything I needed :> |
| 14:45.22 | jme | ah |
| 14:45.31 | durcyn | Pkekyo: /clearfocus [target=focus,dead] ; /focus [target=focus,noexists] ; /cast [target=focus] somespellname |
| 14:45.36 | dodga | Pkekyo: Consider that my good deed of the day :> |
| 14:46.05 | dodga | The only thing I use /focus for is /cast [target=focus] Shackle Undead :P |
| 14:46.11 | Pkekyo | just helping a warrior to set his "next target" :> |
| 14:46.31 | durcyn | you can spam that macro to set focus if you don't have one, and clear it if it's dead |
| 14:46.32 | Pkekyo | he doesn't need anything more than /focus and /tar focus |
| 14:46.54 | durcyn | highly useful for cc |
| 14:48.07 | Pkekyo | yeah, I love that macro...got it on my mage :> |
| 14:51.46 | CIA-23 | 03xionglingfeng * r46005 10Postal/Locales/zhCN.lua: Postal: -There is something wrong with Postal's Chinese Simplify language, I have fixed it. |
| 14:51.51 | jme | :o |
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| 14:54.08 | jme | http://www.wolfquest.org/index.html |
| 14:54.10 | jme | hahaha |
| 14:55.20 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:55.23 | Wobin | that looks cool |
| 14:57.28 | art3mis | hey that looks like a trick |
| 14:57.37 | art3mis | i may learnsomething about nature from that video game! |
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| 14:59.36 | Wobin | cunning |
| 14:59.38 | Wobin | like a wolf |
| 14:59.53 | Wobin | Surprise Education! |
| 15:00.54 | jme | equip: Your Surprise Education ability gains 21 crit rating |
| 15:01.56 | Silviu- | Wobin can u add embeds.xml to FuXpFu ? |
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| 15:12.45 | Wobin | Silviu-: I have no idea how =P |
| 15:12.56 | Wobin | This whole embeds.xml has flown right over my head =P |
| 15:12.58 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r46012 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 15:12.58 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 15:12.58 | CIA-22 | - Added drops to the entrance maps |
| 15:13.27 | mitch0 | wobin: just look at almost any other ace2 addon's .toc and embeds.xml? :) |
| 15:14.36 | Wobin | <.< |
| 15:14.38 | Wobin | >.> |
| 15:14.42 | Wobin | That implies work |
| 15:14.52 | durcyn | Wobin: done. |
| 15:14.54 | mitch0 | not much |
| 15:14.56 | Wobin | Hurrah |
| 15:14.59 | Wobin | thank you |
| 15:15.20 | mitch0 | wobin: not much more than a copy-paste operation ;) |
| 15:15.23 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:15.31 | Wobin | I'm about to head to bed right now |
| 15:15.49 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r46013 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Typo, thought I had build tested that... |
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| 15:19.42 | sylvanaar | yeah, its not rocket science (embeds.xml) just grab an existing one and cut your lib references from the toc and paste into the <Script file="AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua"/> tags |
| 15:22.08 | sylvanaar | about 5 min behind |
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| 15:29.09 | CIA-22 | ow |
| 15:29.09 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r46014 10FuBar_FuXPFu/ (FuBar_FuXPFu.toc embeds.xml): FuBar_FuXPFu: use embeds.xml < like that, Wobin |
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| 15:38.49 | Coruss | yay! wowace is back |
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| 15:45.49 | Pkekyo | huh, for some reason I get these weird longlasting "timeouts" when trolling blizzard's forums from time to time... :/ |
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| 15:50.42 | kbh | soo.... i vaguely remeber someone mentioning an addon under dev that was like customizeable dropdown buttons |
| 15:51.14 | kbh | that hit a note for anyone? |
| 15:51.22 | dylanm | kbh: Something that looked like AutoBar but for other stuff? |
| 15:51.32 | kbh | yeah, like autobar but for abilities |
| 15:53.09 | dylanm | I think there was something in the forums about it... not sure what happened. |
| 15:53.40 | kbh | just the lead i needed, thanks |
| 15:55.00 | pastamancer | I think kayde was working on it |
| 15:55.03 | pastamancer | don't remember the name |
| 15:59.32 | dodga | kbh: Maybe you're looking for Klappa |
| 16:00.33 | kbh | maybe lemmie check it out |
| 16:01.22 | pastamancer | that's the one |
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| 16:05.43 | dodga | pastamancer: Quick question; how hard would it be to create a Grid plugin, that would change the layout depending on the current zone name? |
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| 16:08.17 | pastamancer | dodga: look at GridLayoutByZone on wowi |
| 16:08.45 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 16:08.51 | dodga | Huh? There is? I only found ByInstance, which is not exactly what I wanted :D |
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| 16:09.07 | jme | argh |
| 16:09.11 | jme | i hate this freaking svk mirroring crap |
| 16:09.18 | pastamancer | oh, byinstance, whatever |
| 16:09.28 | pastamancer | you can use that as a base |
| 16:09.34 | dodga | Yeah I will |
| 16:09.59 | dodga | I was thinking of a menu where one could add zone names with wildcards (e.g. "* Arena") |
| 16:10.10 | dodga | And then choose one of the existing layouts for that zone-pattern |
| 16:10.11 | Tornhoof | add generic ruleset ;) |
| 16:10.29 | dodga | And under Frame-Layout they would choose "By Zone" and then all the magic happens as soon as you enter a zone/instance |
| 16:10.53 | dodga | But since I'm kinda new to modding with Ace I will ask some probably stupid questions :D |
| 16:11.08 | dodga | Like i.e. "how the heck does that AceOptions stuff work" :> |
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| 16:12.06 | Coruss | lol, I'm reading the wiki on AceOptions right now :) |
| 16:12.24 | dodga | Excellent :> |
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| 16:15.08 | pastamancer | AceOptions is pretty snazzy |
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| 16:16.50 | dodga | Hm, where's the documentation for GridLayout? :D |
| 16:17.04 | cncfanatics | anyone online with experience with stance changing in secure action buttons ? been a while for me |
| 16:17.49 | kbh | man, this addon must be very now :P |
| 16:18.19 | kbh | err new |
| 16:18.26 | kbh | and no updates for a month |
| 16:18.34 | kbh | <-- sad panda |
| 16:18.41 | pastamancer | dodga: the code is the documentation :p |
| 16:18.47 | dodga | I see :o |
| 16:19.42 | Fisker- | pastamancer |
| 16:19.46 | Fisker- | it's all your fault |
| 16:20.18 | cncfanatics | Nah, its Fisker-'s fault |
| 16:20.26 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:20.27 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 16:20.28 | pastamancer | dodga: all you should need to worry about is GridLayout:ReloadLayout() |
| 16:21.18 | dodga | Why is that? |
| 16:21.19 | pastamancer | dodga: or even GridLayout:PartyTypeChanged() which will queue the layout reload if you're in combat |
| 16:21.53 | dodga | Hm I think I might postpone the "customisability" and just do the automatic switching for now :> |
| 16:21.54 | Amadeo | that was weird |
| 16:22.00 | pastamancer | do get "dynamic" layouts in Grid, you'll need to modify the layout definition and then reload the layout |
| 16:22.07 | Amadeo | I tamed a new pet, fed it to full happiness...then next thing I know it dies |
| 16:22.18 | dodga | Amadeo: food poisoning |
| 16:22.21 | Amadeo | lol |
| 16:22.28 | Amadeo | what the hell happened? |
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| 16:24.17 | silentium | [13:25:35] <Grum> for paladins- is the 'buffing of pets' the same as buffing a class? 'groupbuff' 1 pet and buff all orso? <- this is intended but currently not implemented, if you give a pet a greater blessing the other pets dont get it - I read in the 2.2 patchnotes that this should be fixed |
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| 16:25.33 | cncfanatics | in 2.2 this will be different silentium |
| 16:25.42 | Thrae | mitch0-zZ: Because even if I made !trigger and !trigger-public, people would just use !trigger-public when they want to spam the channel. I'm working on limiting ThraeBot's total spam per channel, and that's a better solution. |
| 16:25.49 | cncfanatics | all hunter pets will be one "class", all imps will be one "class, all voidwalkers another, etc |
| 16:27.07 | Thrae | mitch0-zZ: Having a bot respond to a trigger in a channel via private message doesn't really make a lot of sense anyway except for !help or !triggers, when the bot can respond to private messages. |
| 16:27.35 | cncfanatics | trac is down ? |
| 16:28.05 | silentium | cncfanatics: oh, that sounds very nice, everything's better than buffing every single pet because the BM hunters complain about their dps ;) |
| 16:28.29 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 16:28.41 | cncfanatics | I usualy give the lovely BM pets rank 1 BoM |
| 16:28.46 | cncfanatics | the hunters never notice :p |
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| 16:33.14 | silentium | hehe |
| 16:33.37 | cncfanatics | Kaelten, ping, trac is down |
| 16:33.42 | silentium | well I usually give them small blessings, not that hard to rebuff with pally power |
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| 16:34.26 | Arrowmaster | i made everybody buff my imp with every buff possible last time i had to respec demonology for leo |
| 16:34.50 | EvilGrin | Where do I post bug reports? :) |
| 16:34.59 | Tornhoof | why demo for leo?, can't get your inner demon dead without demo? |
| 16:35.10 | Arrowmaster | i was tanking |
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| 16:35.18 | Tornhoof | ah i c |
| 16:35.28 | Arrowmaster | was using imp for trash and karathress |
| 16:35.44 | Ominous_ | how much worse does wow run under wine/linux than under windows? |
| 16:36.01 | Arrowmaster | i think i gained about 100 spelldamage from all the buffs on me and the imp |
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| 16:38.02 | mandrill | Ominous_: depends. For me it's not worse at all, on most boxes you lose about 5% FPS (from what I read) ... I set a friend's shitty notebook up for wow on linux and it's like 50% more FPS than with windows |
| 16:38.24 | Ominous_ | hmm |
| 16:38.44 | Ominous_ | right then time to install ubuntu on laptop |
| 16:38.47 | alext | I had alot more FPS running wow in linux |
| 16:38.53 | alext | then again linux didnt support anti aliasing on my card |
| 16:38.58 | alext | so that would explain some of the difference |
| 16:39.41 | Ominous_ | thanks for the advice |
| 16:40.40 | Tornhoof | 5% is valid for nvidia cards |
| 16:40.52 | Tornhoof | other cards might perform much worse |
| 16:41.45 | Punkie` | Anyone run WoW on an "uncustomized" iMac? |
| 16:42.46 | mandrill | well, atis crappy x11 drivers are some game of chance ... not just for wow |
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| 16:43.11 | baer_ | damnit |
| 16:43.25 | baer_ | sRaidFrames does not show grp 5,6,7,8 |
| 16:43.33 | Arrowmaster | going to be fun trying to get ventrilo to work in wine when i build my next system |
| 16:43.34 | mandrill | But that notebook I mentioned had some funny radeon mobility that wasn't even supported by atis official drivers, so ... well, game of chance :) |
| 16:43.34 | durcyn | Punkie`: define uncustomized? |
| 16:43.44 | baer_ | anyone got a hint where they could be? raiding right now. :-/ |
| 16:44.04 | Punkie` | As in, you didn't find your way to jack a different GFX card into it or so |
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| 16:46.08 | Fisker- | Punkie` !1 |
| 16:46.11 | Ominous_ | welcome back cia |
| 16:46.30 | Fisker- | Military doesn't know about my gaming addiction |
| 16:46.43 | NeoTron | Nethercleft Leg Armor or Runic Spellthread for my FR pants. hmm |
| 16:46.48 | Punkie` | Fisker-: They do now |
| 16:46.49 | NeoTron | that 40 stamina is pretty nice |
| 16:47.03 | Fisker- | no Punkie` :( |
| 16:47.14 | Fisker- | They want to draft me |
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| 16:47.16 | Punkie` | They just read you send that to this IRC channel! |
| 16:47.21 | Fisker- | nah |
| 16:47.25 | NeoTron | Al'ar finally died. Once the raid stopped being morons and dying to flame patch we finished with > 3m time left |
| 16:47.40 | Fisker- | that's usually how it goes |
| 16:47.43 | Fisker- | People = morons = wipe |
| 16:47.48 | Fisker- | People != morons = win |
| 16:48.09 | Punkie` | profit? :( |
| 16:48.52 | Fisker- | no profit |
| 16:48.58 | jme | ???? |
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| 16:49.10 | Punkie` | Fisker-: we should kill jme for profit |
| 16:49.13 | Fisker- | and it'll keep being that way jme |
| 16:49.15 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:49.19 | jme | noes |
| 16:50.17 | Fisker- | bitches don't know about our plot to kill jme |
| 16:50.33 | kergoth | jme: what did you mean about svk? if you dont like its mirroring, why use it? |
| 16:50.34 | jme | why am i being plotted against :( |
| 16:50.42 | packetlss | is there an addon to "group" up fubar minimap icons? my circle is getting crowded |
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| 16:50.56 | jme | kergoth: it's the best option out there, and it's just a pain to get set up :P |
| 16:51.12 | jme | kergoth: we're keeping local source against the entire tree of the php framework we use |
| 16:51.24 | Fisker- | you tried to ruin our marke |
| 16:51.25 | RaydenUnicyclist | what the heck? |
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| 16:51.26 | jme | and yet want updates from their svn. |
| 16:51.36 | Neebler | Email! I won't have anything to do with that Internet or modems of any sort! You should be careful about those. Don't you know that once you install a modem, the government can look into your computer and watch everything you do? That's why every night before I go to bed, I turn the monitor to the wall. |
| 16:51.38 | RaydenUnicyclist | they are going to remake naxx into a 25-man casual for northrend |
| 16:51.38 | Bruners | name an alternative to sorren's timers |
| 16:51.55 | RaydenUnicyclist | why 25 instead of 10? kara i the most popular outland dungeon |
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| 16:52.31 | ccKep | woot, just spotted this on our guild forums... I guess it's old, but I didn't know it.. maybe someone here doesn't know it too: |
| 16:52.31 | jme | and kara isn't even in outlands O_o |
| 16:52.34 | ccKep | http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/07072604.html ^.^ |
| 16:52.53 | kergoth | jme: ahh. makes sense. i used it for a long time for my addon set.. kept mirrors of all the upstream addon svns ;) got annoyed by its limitations though, and by the fact taht you cant use an existing local svnsync mirror as the backend, you'd have to mirror your mirror into the depot.. blech |
| 16:52.59 | Fisker- | tyeah it's old ccKep |
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| 16:53.27 | jme | kergoth: heh yeah |
| 16:53.58 | kergoth | still, a useful tool, i just wish you could split the mirroring / local operationi functionality away from the star merging, etc functionality |
| 16:54.08 | kergoth | itd be easier to work with than svnmerge for stuff directly upstream |
| 16:54.11 | kergoth | but oh well |
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| 16:54.46 | NeoTron | Cryect: I really like the ability to choose past fights in recount. very nice |
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| 16:56.35 | RaydenUni | Healers are going to be getting "free" spell damage so that they don't have to respec in order to solo <-- will this affect shadow priests? |
| 16:56.45 | RaydenUni | and why on earth do they need to nerf shadow priests? we are doing fine right now |
| 16:56.49 | Punkie` | Fisker-: Do you have to join the military for a certain number of years in your country? |
| 16:56.51 | RaydenUni | people want us in groups! |
| 16:57.06 | Fisker- | Punkie` yeah it's normal for people to get drafted |
| 16:57.14 | mort | good question :( |
| 16:57.20 | Punkie` | Fisker-: and if you do, you gotta go? |
| 16:57.38 | Fisker- | Only if there's war |
| 16:57.42 | Fisker- | well actually i like this |
| 16:57.56 | mort | shadowpriest nerff + better manareg for all other classes....*sigh* |
| 16:58.03 | Fisker- | Because of the War on Iraq it was possible to get enlisted as a person who didn't approve of it |
| 16:58.09 | Fisker- | And you would be stationed home |
| 16:59.55 | RaydenUni | thing is, even as a shadow priest i don't do godly dps |
| 17:00.02 | dylanm | But you're useful! |
| 17:00.06 | RaydenUni | i was running sethek last night and the shaman and i were head to head |
| 17:00.13 | mort | i do ;) |
| 17:00.15 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: my idea for spell damage / healing has always been to replaace it with spell power |
| 17:00.20 | NeoTron | that always affects both dmg and healing |
| 17:00.23 | Fisker- | Also i get the chance to pick a number when i get there :P |
| 17:00.29 | Fisker- | If i pick the right one i'll get off the hook |
| 17:00.40 | RaydenUni | NeoTron why not just give all items both then? |
| 17:00.52 | RaydenUni | i have no problems giving healing only items better + |
| 17:00.53 | mort | i'm one of the top dps in my raid group atm |
| 17:01.01 | RaydenUni | i do'nt think i have great gear... |
| 17:01.13 | NeoTron | mort: so are they trying to make shadow priests not wanted anymore or what? |
| 17:01.35 | NeoTron | ==> Heroic Badges will drop from Zul'aman and Karazhan bosses. (2.2 or 2.3) |
| 17:01.39 | NeoTron | that will be NICE |
| 17:01.42 | mort | i can understand the damage nerf somewhat, but if the mana regeneartion isn't needed anymore i see a big problem |
| 17:01.55 | Punkie` | NeoTron: don't you like have a hundred already? |
| 17:01.55 | NeoTron | I don't see shadow priests dominating dps anymore |
| 17:01.59 | mort | NeoTron spirit will be buffed |
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| 17:03.51 | RaydenUni | shadow priests are dominating dps? |
| 17:03.53 | NeoTron | mort: where do you see the "nerf" post? |
| 17:03.59 | RaydenUni | don't we dps less than mages, rogues, and warlocks? |
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| 17:04.09 | NeoTron | Punkie`: no because with raiding I don't really have time to run heroics |
| 17:04.13 | mort | shadowpriest.com has some information from blizzcon panels |
| 17:04.21 | NeoTron | and I've just bought 2 pieces of epic FR |
| 17:04.24 | RaydenUni | how good is +386 spell damage for a 68 shadow priest? |
| 17:04.29 | yacoob | not rogues, I'm afraid... :) |
| 17:04.34 | mort | really bad ;) |
| 17:04.41 | yacoob | and not most of the mages... :) |
| 17:04.55 | yacoob | but it's only my impression, no hard data to give :) |
| 17:04.58 | mort | you should outdps mages without problems |
| 17:05.02 | RaydenUni | how much +spell should i be shooting for when i hit 70? |
| 17:05.11 | RaydenUni | before working on dungeon set and stuff |
| 17:05.18 | NeoTron | mort: obvious question - which forum? :P |
| 17:05.21 | mort | rogues and warlocks have the potential to outdps us |
| 17:05.43 | RaydenUni | whenever i group with my warlock friend he out dps's me |
| 17:05.46 | mort | chat forum |
| 17:05.48 | RaydenUni | of course i give him +25% dmg |
| 17:06.03 | mort | 15% |
| 17:06.11 | buu | 17% |
| 17:06.17 | Punkie` | over 9000 |
| 17:06.24 | RaydenUni | misery 5%, shadowweaving 10%? |
| 17:06.31 | buu | I thought weaving was 12 |
| 17:06.38 | buu | 4 stacks of 3 |
| 17:06.51 | RaydenUni | it stacks 5 times |
| 17:06.56 | mort | 5 stacks of 2 |
| 17:06.59 | buu | Oh. |
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| 17:07.07 | buu | Huh. |
| 17:07.36 | RaydenUni | 2% * 5 |
| 17:07.40 | mort | in my current raid i'm normally outdpsed by one rogue and 1-3 warlocks, depending on the fight |
| 17:08.10 | RaydenUni | i'd be fine with less dps if i had more mana from VT |
| 17:08.18 | RaydenUni | :) |
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| 17:08.27 | Mudkips | mortuacano |
| 17:08.39 | Fisker- | the singing Punkie` |
| 17:08.53 | Fisker- | <Punkie`> I'm a shark |
| 17:08.56 | Fisker- | <Punkie`> I'm a shark!!!!!!! |
| 17:09.03 | Fisker- | <Punkie`> suck my dick. |
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| 17:09.08 | Fisker- | <Punkie`> I'M A SHAAAAAAARK! |
| 17:10.22 | NeoTron | last night on alar it was: lock, lock, lock, lock, SP, boomkin |
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| 17:10.42 | NeoTron | but important to realized is that the ppl on al'ar the whole time were those 5 with the other dpsers on adds |
| 17:10.55 | RaydenUni | true |
| 17:11.01 | Mudkips | you guys dps adds? |
| 17:11.02 | RaydenUni | shadow priests and warlocks suck at killing adds |
| 17:11.09 | NeoTron | Mudkips: of course |
| 17:11.14 | Mudkips | phase 1? |
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| 17:11.25 | NeoTron | they have about 3% of the HP al'ar does, and when dead removes 3% healt from al'ar |
| 17:11.28 | NeoTron | why wouldn't we dps them? |
| 17:11.42 | Mudkips | wrong question |
| 17:11.44 | rubik | hmmm.. improved LoTP druid talent... it generates aggro for the druid when it heals party members? |
| 17:11.45 | Mudkips | you kill adds phase 1? |
| 17:11.54 | Mudkips | rubik, no |
| 17:12.04 | rubik | doh! not at all? that's too bad |
| 17:12.24 | Mudkips | the druid isn't healing the players |
| 17:12.26 | Coruss | the buff appears on each person, the threat gets attributed to each person iirc |
| 17:12.29 | RaydenUni | to work.... or play wow |
| 17:12.32 | Mudkips | the aura on the players heal themselves |
| 17:12.34 | mort | boomkin? ouch ;) |
| 17:12.36 | rubik | so it's like the priest's prayer of mending? |
| 17:12.41 | Mudkips | yes |
| 17:12.42 | Coruss | ya |
| 17:13.02 | NeoTron | we kill adds in both phases |
| 17:13.05 | Coruss | mud, do you know if pally ret aura functions the same way? or if that threat is applied to the pally? |
| 17:13.21 | rubik | and doesn't add aggro to the receiver either, right? |
| 17:13.46 | jme | NeoTron: no hunter love? :( |
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| 17:13.57 | Mudkips | which aura? |
| 17:14.02 | Mudkips | oh retribution |
| 17:14.05 | Bruners | is it possible to have 2 separate Autobars? |
| 17:14.10 | NeoTron | mort: you seem to think moonkins are bad dps? |
| 17:14.13 | NeoTron | they aren't.. |
| 17:14.28 | Coruss | and the 5% spell crit they bring is a huge party boost |
| 17:14.29 | Mudkips | I don't see how ret aura is any difference from thorns |
| 17:14.35 | Mudkips | for example |
| 17:14.36 | RaydenUni | dps and healing is such a crowded group |
| 17:14.47 | RaydenUni | only not so much healig for pug |
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| 17:14.49 | RaydenUni | always need healers |
| 17:15.10 | jme | that's why i'm rolling a pally |
| 17:15.14 | NeoTron | jme: what about hunters? they kill adds. :P |
| 17:15.27 | Coruss | pallies are just the class of the month b/c they're good in pvp |
| 17:15.33 | Mudkips | hunters suck, they should just remove the class |
| 17:15.39 | Mudkips | its so hard putting them in groups |
| 17:15.41 | jme | Mudkips: ... |
| 17:15.47 | Coruss | honestly, think twice about rolling pally, they're nerfing pallies in pvp pretty hard in test |
| 17:15.54 | NeoTron | we has 2 hunters |
| 17:16.01 | jme | Mudkips: i am always in the top 2-3 dps in my kara raid |
| 17:16.17 | Coruss | hunter freeze trap needs to be buffed so that it can be a good replacement for mage CC |
| 17:16.18 | NeoTron | jme: hunters are extremely uneven |
| 17:16.28 | rubik | speaking of hunters... a clueless one ninjaed this feral leather boots from my druid last night off moroes: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28545 |
| 17:16.37 | Coruss | I'm honestly very annoyed at the reliance on mages for CC, buff seduction and freeze trap |
| 17:16.39 | rubik | clueless hunter or are those actually decent for a hunter? |
| 17:16.41 | RaydenUni | <Coruss> honestly, think twice about rolling pally, they're nerfing pallies in pvp pretty hard in test <-- as they should |
| 17:16.49 | Mudkips | that's stupid |
| 17:17.04 | Punkie` | rubik: they are just as good for a hunter as they are for a feral druid :P |
| 17:17.10 | jme | rubik: i have seen several hunters wearing those, but ninjaing them from a drood or rogue is dumb |
| 17:17.10 | mort | moonkins arent that bad, but easy to outdps as shadow |
| 17:17.14 | Coruss | RaydenUni: I don't disagree, the nerfs are pvp oriented, they're not messing with my heals or SoC crits, so I'm happy |
| 17:17.17 | Mudkips | Burning Crusade increased itemization for each class, no need to be taking off-loot from people |
| 17:17.20 | rubik | haha.. really? cause they're 2nd best feral boots in the game... |
| 17:17.31 | rubik | second to a BT drop |
| 17:17.33 | Mudkips | if nobody needed them, I would understand |
| 17:17.34 | Punkie` | I don't think they are for tanking |
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| 17:17.44 | Coruss | they're not |
| 17:17.45 | Punkie` | but I don't know how many guilds use feral druids for pure DPS anyway |
| 17:17.51 | rubik | yeah, they'd be for cat dps, sorry.. not for tanking set |
| 17:17.55 | Mudkips | nobody does Punkie` |
| 17:17.56 | Punkie` | so your arguement in general is moot :P |
| 17:18.06 | Mudkips | but we need to collect cat gear to be good at dps |
| 17:18.08 | Coruss | I wouldn't mind those boots for my rogue |
| 17:18.13 | jme | rubik: hunter boots drop from chess anyway |
| 17:18.15 | rubik | i switch to kitty form to dps in karazhan when a tank isn't required |
| 17:18.24 | rubik | so my dps going up would still help the raid |
| 17:18.24 | Punkie` | Coruss: those boots are amazing for a rogue :) |
| 17:18.33 | Coruss | grrr nerf kitty dps, quit stealing my rogue slot! |
| 17:18.38 | jme | rubik: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28746 |
| 17:18.41 | Mudkips | so no, the argument is not moot |
| 17:18.49 | Mudkips | a hunter should not be taking leather from leather classes |
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| 17:19.01 | NeoTron | I don't see why it would matter |
| 17:19.06 | Punkie` | that's like saying a paladin shouldn't take leather |
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| 17:19.09 | rubik | jme: yeah.. i hope a shammy ninjas those from him |
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| 17:19.10 | Punkie` | but they do |
| 17:19.14 | NeoTron | they don't get hit so they don't need mail armor.. and the boots are really nice for a hunter |
| 17:19.14 | Coruss | they shouldn't |
| 17:19.14 | jme | rubik: lol |
| 17:19.19 | Mudkips | paladins take leather? |
| 17:19.20 | jme | rubik: i have seen shammies with those boots :/ |
| 17:19.21 | Mudkips | since when |
| 17:19.23 | Punkie` | healing leather yes |
| 17:19.27 | Punkie` | and cloth |
| 17:19.28 | Coruss | there's *tons* of good plate healing gear |
| 17:19.33 | jme | Mudkips: dude, i saw a dps warrior with leather |
| 17:19.35 | Coruss | then they're morons living in a pre-BC world |
| 17:19.46 | NeoTron | Coruss: that might not be drpping |
| 17:19.47 | rubik | i pass on any dps (non-tanking) leather to the rogue in our kara group |
| 17:19.51 | Mudkips | Okay stop |
| 17:19.57 | Mudkips | breath. |
| 17:19.58 | jme | rubik: you don't master loot? |
| 17:20.05 | rubik | if he doesn't want it, i should get it.. but we have stinking shammies and hunters that take it |
| 17:20.29 | rubik | well, we just pass on all loot and then we say "roll now on such and such if you need" |
| 17:20.33 | Punkie` | rubik: the problem is, if those boots are better than the hunters, they are probably better going to him |
| 17:20.38 | Punkie` | his only job is to dps really |
| 17:20.43 | Punkie` | and you can tank also |
| 17:20.45 | rubik | so we both rolled (hunter and i).. and before i could say "WTF?", he took the boots |
| 17:20.50 | Punkie` | i think that's what it comes down too |
| 17:21.12 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: Recount - Fixes Stacked Normalized Graphs so they shouldn't freeze anymore <-- <3 <3 <3 :D |
| 17:21.13 | rubik | yeah |
| 17:21.15 | Mudkips | I think its more about respect than needing the "item" |
| 17:21.24 | rubik | i sort of see/agree with some of the points you guys are making |
| 17:21.33 | Mudkips | if you know your place in loot, you won't take off items from that armor class |
| 17:21.45 | rubik | these dropped later on so i was happy and took em: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30674 |
| 17:21.45 | Punkie` | Mudkips: you are being a little biased :) |
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| 17:21.55 | Mudkips | not really |
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| 17:22.09 | `aen | mendeleev have a quick way to turn off all the instanceloot sets? |
| 17:22.10 | Coruss | rubik: now those are feral tanking boots |
| 17:22.14 | Mudkips | if you were a priest, you can only wear cloth |
| 17:22.19 | Mudkips | and a pally rolled on your cloth |
| 17:22.23 | Mudkips | how would you feel? |
| 17:22.27 | rubik | but yes, i will never roll on healing cloth if a priest needs it.. or hell, if any healer in raid needs it.. since it'd be for my healing set.. and i'm feral |
| 17:23.09 | rubik | Coruss: yup.. not ready to replace my clefthoof boots yet (need to work on my +defense cause i'd lose a chunk) but i'll use them very soon |
| 17:23.17 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:23.25 | Coruss | in my raids, offspec/offclass isn't allowed to roll on the main roll for items, if everyone in the class/spec passes on it, then it's opened to other classes |
| 17:23.37 | Mudkips | that's how it should be Coruss |
| 17:23.39 | rubik | Coruss: that's the way to do it, definitely |
| 17:23.49 | rubik | if it's about to be sharded, open up rolls to everyone |
| 17:23.58 | Punkie` | Well, that's why guilds have DKP |
| 17:24.03 | Punkie` | if you raid enough, you get items |
| 17:24.04 | rubik | since guild bank has like 4 brazillion shards |
| 17:24.11 | Coruss | bah, dkp is a waste on kara |
| 17:24.21 | Mudkips | yes dkp in Karazhan is a waste |
| 17:24.27 | Punkie` | yeah, it kinda is, but so is arguing about karazhan :P |
| 17:24.27 | Coruss | rubik: if you have that many shards, they should be getting handed out or AH'd |
| 17:24.28 | Mudkips | common sense works better |
| 17:24.29 | rubik | yeah.. we're a small casual guild only clearing karazhan so we just NBG it |
| 17:24.39 | Mudkips | we weren't really arguing about karazhan |
| 17:24.42 | Mudkips | its about loot ethics |
| 17:24.46 | Coruss | mmmhmm |
| 17:25.17 | Mudkips | same problem that's been around ever since a hunter rolled on warrior weapons |
| 17:25.20 | rubik | Coruss: yeah, guild bank uses some.. we also pass on all BoE greens and an enchanter DEs them.. then we use dusts and stuff to enchant the raiding people's gear |
| 17:25.52 | Coruss | rubik: as it should be |
| 17:25.54 | Mudkips | guild bank gives out more than void crystals? |
| 17:25.59 | Mudkips | wow that's really generous |
| 17:26.31 | Punkie` | My guild bank sells them to members for real cheap, that way we can fund repair bots and such |
| 17:26.41 | Punkie` | and resistance gear ofc |
| 17:27.05 | rubik | yeah.. so far, we don't need any (since only doing karazhan) |
| 17:27.36 | rubik | a lock and a mage have some +AR stuff they throw on for Curator depending who is soaking but that's about it |
| 17:27.41 | Coruss | umm, arcane resist is important in kara, for curator at least |
| 17:27.47 | rubik | *cue in laughs about mage/lock soaking* |
| 17:27.59 | NeoTron | rubik: locks are ultimate soakers |
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| 17:28.07 | NeoTron | and if you have a non-DPS OT they are good at it too |
| 17:28.11 | Coruss | meh, I'm making my feral offtank get the AR stuff |
| 17:28.15 | Punkie` | Coruss: I've heard a lot of people saying about arcane resist, however I've never ever used it |
| 17:28.16 | NeoTron | but I haven't used AR for a long time >:-) |
| 17:28.23 | pastamancer | I usually take the hateful bolts on my shadow priest |
| 17:28.25 | Punkie` | Not me personally, but my guild |
| 17:28.27 | NeoTron | I have >300 AR though I think |
| 17:28.36 | rubik | yeah.. we didn't really use AR on curator even when we were learning him.. shrug |
| 17:28.49 | Coruss | Punkie`: it's only really useful on curator, the arcane bolts he does always hit the second on the threat list, and arcane resist can make it alot easier to heal through |
| 17:28.58 | `aen | mendeleev have a quick way to turn off all the instanceloot sets? |
| 17:29.13 | Gnarfoz | how many buffs can a player have at the moment? should be 32, right? |
| 17:30.02 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 17:30.06 | nevcairiel | and 40 debuffs |
| 17:30.13 | Punkie` | Coruss: understandable, but we don't even use an offtank ^^ |
| 17:31.04 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ok, thx :) that explains why CandyDice sometimes doesn't (rather: didn't ^^) pick up buffs sometimes... only scans for 16 ;) |
| 17:32.43 | Coruss | Punkie`: so who soaks the bolts then? |
| 17:32.54 | Punkie` | anyone, I guess |
| 17:32.55 | Punkie` | :P |
| 17:33.19 | Coruss | lol, I try to be kind to the healers, since well, I'm one of them |
| 17:34.13 | rubik | we have this one priest who doesn't really know what she's doing... she sat at like 500 mana for the last 3 minutes of Curator last night |
| 17:34.27 | rubik | refuses to use man pots/doesn't bring any, etc. |
| 17:34.48 | rubik | i shifted out of cat form to toss her an Innervate cause i felt bad |
| 17:34.49 | Coruss | did they at least use their shadowfiend? |
| 17:35.00 | rubik | i'm not sure she knows what that is |
| 17:35.06 | Coruss | .... |
| 17:35.07 | rubik | our other priests are slowly teaching her |
| 17:35.13 | jme | um |
| 17:35.13 | Mudkips | LOL |
| 17:35.18 | jme | wow |
| 17:35.21 | Mudkips | what has that person been doing 1-60? |
| 17:35.22 | rubik | but yeah.. what a place to learn.. lol |
| 17:35.23 | Punkie` | eBay! |
| 17:35.26 | Mudkips | or did she EBAY |
| 17:35.28 | Coruss | they should be teaching her in instances... not raids |
| 17:35.43 | jme | tell her to reroll and learn to play her class |
| 17:35.45 | Punkie` | bring her to UBRS and ask her to lead the way |
| 17:35.47 | Punkie` | :) |
| 17:35.49 | rubik | nah.. her main was a hunter 1-60.. funny stories of her hunter being useless in our MC raids too.. then she switched to priest |
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| 17:36.13 | Saint-N | wowzers are the trains screwed today |
| 17:36.20 | rubik | her gear is starting to kick ass though.. so she can't suck too bad even if she wants to |
| 17:36.24 | Saint-N | almost every line suffered bad flooding last night |
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| 17:36.36 | rubik | she got like +500 healing worth of new gear last night (other healers had it already) |
| 17:37.06 | Coruss | Saint-N: where is this? |
| 17:37.07 | NeoTron | rubik: you take more than 3 minutes to kill curator? :P |
| 17:37.11 | Saint-N | new york city |
| 17:37.12 | rubik | lol |
| 17:37.15 | rubik | ouch |
| 17:37.16 | Mudkips | I dont know about that rubik. Gear does not = skill after all |
| 17:37.26 | Saint-N | took me close to 2.5 hours to get to work, normally its a 45 min ride |
| 17:37.33 | jme | curator = ezmode |
| 17:37.41 | Coruss | aye, no skill = no > kara |
| 17:37.50 | rubik | true.. but it's so easy for priests to get +heal.. she has +1750 or so already.. our other priests are at almost +2000 |
| 17:37.50 | Mudkips | I can't wait to hear your stories of Aran rubik |
| 17:38.00 | Saint-N | Mudkips: it doesnt but in the case of +healing and damage it raises the minimum that you can suck ;) |
| 17:38.02 | NeoTron | having 2-3 dpsers on curator at all time makes the fight so much easier, as does grouping up |
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| 17:38.12 | rubik | ok, so on Aran.. we one-shotted him to end the night |
| 17:38.14 | rubik | :P |
| 17:38.18 | jme | NeoTron: i keep my pet on curator the whole fight |
| 17:38.30 | NeoTron | I keep me at curator the whole fight |
| 17:38.32 | jme | NeoTron: so when he goes into the debuff stage i just pop TBW and pew pew ;) |
| 17:38.38 | rubik | NeoTron: we can't afford 2-3 dps on curator cause the rest of our dps won't down the flares quick enough |
| 17:38.49 | NeoTron | rubik: spreading out or grouping up? |
| 17:39.02 | rubik | and we were short on ranged dps last night.. had 3-4 melee |
| 17:39.03 | Mudkips | before the bear tank nerf, I was 3rd dps on Curator, but that was a looong time ago hehehe |
| 17:39.05 | NeoTron | because if you spread out, melee needs to race around trying to pick up the adds.. |
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| 17:39.17 | NeoTron | if you group up, melee just stands in one spot |
| 17:39.20 | Mudkips | felt wrong very wrong |
| 17:39.34 | rubik | NeoTron: we spread out and let the lock pull flares (he's got AR gear) |
| 17:39.36 | Mudkips | I was on mt duty by the way |
| 17:39.45 | NeoTron | you can't "pull" flares per se |
| 17:39.47 | rubik | we sort of converge on the lock to kill |
| 17:39.51 | rubik | yeah, i know |
| 17:39.53 | NeoTron | so what you need to do next time is to all stand in one spot |
| 17:40.05 | NeoTron | the flares only hit up to 3 ppl anyway and it's easily healed using circle of healing, chain heal and PoM |
| 17:40.07 | jme | and get hit by the chain lightning |
| 17:40.12 | Coruss | hmmm that's an interesting strat... I'll have to keep that in mind |
| 17:40.29 | NeoTron | jme: as I said it only hits up to 3 ppl |
| 17:40.32 | jme | NeoTron: yeah |
| 17:40.34 | NeoTron | it's a non-issue for the most part |
| 17:40.45 | rubik | yeah.. i guess our healers can handle it and dps is fast enough so it allows for crappy strats to work |
| 17:40.50 | jme | NeoTron: for some reason my gf's raid was having trouble with the flayers and wiping because everyone kept dying from the chain lightning |
| 17:40.52 | snurre | doesnt matter if you spread out, it will always hit 2-3 people regardless.. for almost no dmg at all |
| 17:40.52 | NeoTron | since curator dies in 1/2 the time at least (1 evo if you're a bit over average, 2 evo if you're Average) |
| 17:40.56 | jme | NeoTron: i still can't figure out why (i wasn't watching her) |
| 17:41.02 | NeoTron | vs 3-4 if you use a no-dos-on-curator strat |
| 17:41.09 | jme | flares, whatever |
| 17:41.18 | Arrowmaster | last time i was in kara i fucked up badly on curator |
| 17:41.20 | NeoTron | snurre: exactly |
| 17:41.36 | Arrowmaster | he actually went to normal phase after the first evoc |
| 17:41.39 | rubik | we usually take 2 evocates and kill him before 3rd |
| 17:41.44 | snurre | we've bunched up since the first day we were there.. only wiped once (first time) |
| 17:41.48 | NeoTron | we used to do "spread out all dps on adds" and as oon as we changed strat we halved the time we kill him in |
| 17:41.49 | rubik | so we're "average" dps-wise |
| 17:41.50 | Arrowmaster | i usually send him from first evoc to enrage |
| 17:41.52 | NeoTron | witout having better gear |
| 17:42.08 | jme | NeoTron: what is the new strat again? |
| 17:42.12 | jme | NeoTron: as opposed to spreading out ranged dps |
| 17:42.16 | rubik | but we're getting better and more geared up so it's fine |
| 17:42.17 | NeoTron | rubik: if you don't have full dps on curato and kill him in less than 3 evos you have pretty good dps and can easily spare dps for curator |
| 17:42.24 | NeoTron | jme: all stand in a clump |
| 17:42.34 | NeoTron | and have 2-3 people on curator 100% of the time |
| 17:42.39 | jme | NeoTron: what about ranged though? all on curator? |
| 17:42.44 | NeoTron | preferably hunter, lock or mage |
| 17:42.50 | rubik | NeoTron: interesting.. we'll try that (1-2 dps on curator at all times) |
| 17:42.52 | NeoTron | not all, whatever you can spare |
| 17:42.56 | jme | NeoTron: ah |
| 17:43.09 | rubik | last night not sure what MT was doing but flares got stuck on him 2-3 times |
| 17:43.12 | rubik | was annoying |
| 17:43.17 | NeoTron | reason this works better is because you do lose a lot of dps switching targets, missed shadow bolts etc (i.e target dies mid-cast) |
| 17:43.26 | jme | i hope i get to go to kara tonight, i haven't been in two weeks |
| 17:43.32 | NeoTron | rubik: that's nanother reason - all should stand just outside melee range on curator |
| 17:43.52 | jme | well i helped our late night raid kill moroes last week but that was it :( |
| 17:43.55 | NeoTron | and locks/hunters need to soul shatter/FD before evo ends and mages go invis |
| 17:44.04 | NeoTron | because they will be way the heck above he tank at that point |
| 17:44.11 | rubik | yeah.. we stay kind of way back on the sides/middle |
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| 17:44.35 | buu | NeoTron: What does clumping get you though, just the more efficient aoe heals? |
| 17:44.36 | NeoTron | it's counter intuative but grouping up close to the tank really does work best |
| 17:44.38 | rubik | and our MT/RL yells for the locks to throw a CoD (?) on curator right before evo, i guess? (sorry, forgot my lock spells) |
| 17:44.45 | NeoTron | buu: ensures melee doesn't have to move to dps adds |
| 17:44.47 | buu | rubik: CoD |
| 17:44.54 | rubik | yup, that's the one |
| 17:44.55 | jme | curse of doom? |
| 17:44.56 | NeoTron | Bruners: group up and the melee spends half their time not dpsing |
| 17:45.04 | buu | Hrm. |
| 17:45.09 | Bruners | NeoTron: ? |
| 17:45.15 | NeoTron | Bruners: meant buu |
| 17:45.15 | buu | What if you have a grand total of one melee dps? |
| 17:45.27 | NeoTron | buu: have him on curator at all time and stand however you wish |
| 17:45.28 | jme | my gf's raid did curator with 0 melee dps |
| 17:45.30 | jme | all ranged |
| 17:45.32 | rubik | locks are my friends as a tank.. except for when they use that "curse-of-i-pull-the-whole-3-floors-of-karazhan-through-walls" spell... |
| 17:45.33 | jme | i'm like, uhh |
| 17:45.51 | Mudkips | haha that happaned to us back then rubik |
| 17:45.53 | NeoTron | rubik: seed of bugruption |
| 17:45.56 | buu | rubik: That's just awesome. |
| 17:45.59 | Coruss | rubik: you mean seed of corruption? |
| 17:46.00 | Mudkips | on the trash right after romeo and juliet |
| 17:46.03 | buu | rubik: It's even more fun in strat I think |
| 17:46.04 | rubik | yup.. SoC |
| 17:46.05 | NeoTron | I pulled adds when aoeing the adds on ngithbane |
| 17:46.10 | NeoTron | two stupdi elite undead from somewhere |
| 17:46.17 | evl | What exactly is "Aggro Gain" |
| 17:46.17 | Arrowmaster | seed of idontneednofuckinglineofsight |
| 17:46.19 | Coruss | it's not SoC :P SoC is seal of command, pallies had it first |
| 17:46.23 | NeoTron | funny thing is we almost won anyway |
| 17:46.24 | jme | NeoTron: lol |
| 17:46.29 | rubik | hehe |
| 17:46.29 | buu | Coruss: Nobody cares about pallies! |
| 17:46.35 | NeoTron | just got one too many healers |
| 17:46.38 | Coruss | buu: :P you're talkin to a pally |
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| 17:46.50 | buu | Coruss: who let you out of the basement?! |
| 17:46.53 | NeoTron | Coruss: newfangled SoB - SoC is Seal of Crusader! |
| 17:46.53 | Mudkips | yeah SoC is command |
| 17:46.57 | Mudkips | seed for seed. |
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| 17:47.19 | Coruss | lol too many Ss of Cs |
| 17:47.20 | Arrowmaster | somehow we managed to pull the 4 pack in the maiden hallway from the 2nd set of stairs in the moroes trash area of karazhan |
| 17:47.24 | Arrowmaster | with seed |
| 17:47.31 | NeoTron | seed is kind of a lottery |
| 17:47.32 | rubik | haha |
| 17:47.39 | NeoTron | room outside moroes - pulled packs from above |
| 17:47.42 | rubik | yup, i can see all these things happening.. and i prolly HAVE |
| 17:47.47 | buu | It's cool how seed ignores those pesky things like walls. |
| 17:47.51 | `aen | http://reputation.mygamesonline.org/ |
| 17:47.54 | `aen | wtb for US servers! |
| 17:47.57 | NeoTron | hallway after opera - pulled from the upper floor, bringing more friends on the way |
| 17:48.14 | mort | toying around with tthe ui + raiding = bad idea ;) |
| 17:48.18 | Arrowmaster | dont ever use seed in scholomance, even if your 70 youll pull so many mobs youll probably die |
| 17:48.26 | NeoTron | lol |
| 17:48.28 | Coruss | NeoTron: not newfangled, I've had a pally since before ZG was out, I just recently respecced holy/ret and am enjoying fun bursty damage again |
| 17:48.34 | buu | Arrowmaster: That's how I amuse myself every week. |
| 17:48.48 | buu | Arrowmaster: It's awesome how you can pull the bosses through the floor. |
| 17:48.48 | NeoTron | Coruss: but SoC is not Command, but Crusader. Command is newfangled! |
| 17:49.04 | dylanm | Kids with their talent trees... |
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| 17:49.09 | Arrowmaster | Seal of Command is Seal of Chance! |
| 17:49.31 | Mudkips | but when seal of chance procs |
| 17:49.39 | Mudkips | its uh oh |
| 17:49.40 | Coruss | NeoTron: true enough, but crusader is just some lame support seal, no one keeps it up as a seal, you just judge it for the extra holy damage |
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| 17:49.57 | NeoTron | I remember when SoC was the only seal you ever needed |
| 17:50.00 | NeoTron | those were the days |
| 17:50.03 | Arrowmaster | on my mid 30s pally with corpsemaker is like, ok pulling mob hmm i seem to have 1 shot it |
| 17:50.05 | Coruss | hehe, my 68 holy/ret pally in crappy gear can crit for over 2k on a SoC proc |
| 17:50.13 | Arrowmaster | pull next mob, why wont this thing fucking die |
| 17:50.28 | NeoTron | my 67 pally is holy spe |
| 17:50.32 | NeoTron | retri bores me |
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| 17:50.40 | Coruss | 42/0/17 so far, I'm holy too |
| 17:50.41 | NeoTron | and I like to have the option to heal if called upon |
| 17:50.44 | Mudkips | retribution leveling was always boring |
| 17:50.51 | Mudkips | just get a tv next to you |
| 17:50.54 | NeoTron | holy levelling is more fun and really not all that worse I found |
| 17:50.59 | Coruss | retr levelling is boring, it's stupidly inefficient |
| 17:51.10 | NeoTron | I had to drop down and drink so much |
| 17:51.12 | Mudkips | protection is a bit more fun but it really sucks when that hostile player runs into you |
| 17:51.12 | Coruss | I levelled prot from 40-64, but outland broke it |
| 17:51.18 | NeoTron | can go longer with holy due to more mana and better heals |
| 17:51.23 | Arrowmaster | ret is good till 40 or so |
| 17:51.26 | Coruss | NeoTron: agree |
| 17:51.34 | dylanm | Inefficient? |
| 17:51.39 | Arrowmaster | seal of chance is imba at low levels |
| 17:51.40 | NeoTron | so here's a question |
| 17:51.43 | Coruss | ret -> 40, prot -> 60, holy/ret -> 70 |
| 17:51.44 | dylanm | Yeah, it starts getting slow then... |
| 17:51.50 | NeoTron | for SoR should you use a slow weapon or a fast weapon? |
| 17:52.00 | Coruss | depends what you're doing |
| 17:52.02 | dylanm | If you get SoC AND reckoning then you can pump out some damage. It's fine for leveling. |
| 17:52.06 | NeoTron | I have the l65 quest 2h axe and a 1.4 speed fast 1h sword |
| 17:52.16 | NeoTron | I beat on things till they die >:-) |
| 17:52.17 | Mudkips | just say the seal instead of So whatever |
| 17:52.24 | Mudkips | what's the deal |
| 17:52.27 | dylanm | COMMAND |
| 17:52.27 | Coruss | dylanm: it really doesn't work that well, since reckoning works best with a 2.0 or faster one hand weapon |
| 17:52.47 | Coruss | and seal of command is based on weapon speed, it does pitiful damage on a one hand that fast |
| 17:52.49 | dylanm | Coruss: It can work. I forget why. |
| 17:52.57 | NeoTron | I keep forgetting picking up my 2h axe from the bank and tried |
| 17:52.58 | Coruss | oh I'm not saying it can't |
| 17:53.04 | NeoTron | I previously used Seal of Venegance |
| 17:53.07 | Coruss | but I'd rather keep seal of light up and pull the extra two mobs |
| 17:53.11 | NeoTron | but I think that's rather inferior to SoR |
| 17:53.18 | Coruss | seal of vengeance is getting buffed |
| 17:53.18 | rubik | `aen: that reputation thingy is cool... |
| 17:53.24 | Mudkips | Coruss, as protection? |
| 17:53.27 | NeoTron | at least on normal solo fights - on longer duration fights SoV is probably better |
| 17:53.41 | Coruss | Mudkips: yes, I wouldn't multi-pull as ret |
| 17:54.02 | Mudkips | then its light is the proper seal to use when aoe grinding |
| 17:54.03 | Coruss | SoV is getting buffed so that after it hits 5 charges, it will do holy damage ala SoR |
| 17:54.05 | NeoTron | ret can't handle multipulls very well at all |
| 17:54.11 | NeoTron | Coruss: ah |
| 17:54.18 | Gnarfoz | `aen: that doesn't have all EU realms :< |
| 17:54.24 | Coruss | when prot grinding, if you're doing it right, you only ever use SoL and JoL |
| 17:54.24 | dylanm | Coruss: I think the logic is that you get extra attacks that deal a crapload. |
| 17:54.26 | NeoTron | but the problem I see for soloing is that it really usually doesn't hit 5 charges before the mob is almost dead |
| 17:54.29 | NeoTron | even with a 1.4 speed wpn |
| 17:54.32 | jme | Coruss: what are those? |
| 17:54.39 | Coruss | Seal of Light/Judgement of Light |
| 17:54.40 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather Shinusy |
| 17:54.42 | jme | Coruss: ah |
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| 17:54.55 | NeoTron | seems like the perfect tanking seal after the change though |
| 17:54.56 | Mudkips | you basically let the mobs kill themselves on you |
| 17:55.01 | jme | Coruss: just started rerolling a pally last night, highest i've had one is 26 :x |
| 17:55.01 | Coruss | dylanm: thing is, as a prot pally, 90% of your dps is from reactive damage, you getting hit, your melee damage is really pitiful |
| 17:55.16 | Mudkips | its not the same for caster mobs since your shield spike and ret aura does nothing on them |
| 17:55.21 | dylanm | Oh not for a full prot build. |
| 17:55.23 | Mudkips | and you can't really block spelsl either |
| 17:55.24 | Saint-N | i like putting light on them and mana on me |
| 17:55.24 | Coruss | you use ret aura, holy shield, and a shield spike and let stuff kill itself on you |
| 17:55.27 | Saint-N | as a pally |
| 17:55.34 | NeoTron | I was considering prot build but my ultimate end goal is healign |
| 17:55.39 | jme | Coruss: is prot viable at all for low level levelling? |
| 17:55.39 | Saint-N | that way im constantly getting mana and health from damage to and from me |
| 17:55.40 | NeoTron | nto tanking nor dps |
| 17:55.43 | Coruss | jme: good luck... but like I said, they're getting PvP nerfed next patch |
| 17:55.49 | jme | Coruss: doh |
| 17:55.53 | dylanm | Don't use a two-hander if you're going full-on prot, certainly. |
| 17:55.53 | Coruss | jme: no, it doesn't become viable until you get full reckoning |
| 17:55.57 | jme | Coruss: ahh |
| 17:56.03 | Mudkips | reckoning yumm |
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| 17:56.30 | dylanm | http://elitistjerks.com/349724-post11.html |
| 17:56.32 | jme | i saw a pally solo at least 10 of the level 70 belves at BT when i was farming rep |
| 17:56.32 | Coruss | you need reckoning to get the extra attacks to get the seal/judgement of light procs that will keep you alive when multi-mob grinding |
| 17:56.35 | jme | it was amazing |
| 17:56.40 | jme | (i think) |
| 17:56.42 | Coruss | ya, that's a prot pally |
| 17:56.45 | jme | yeah |
| 17:56.45 | Arrowmaster | i need to decide when to switch my pally to prot, only level 34 right now |
| 17:57.01 | dylanm | I went with a similar build ^ worked fine |
| 17:57.15 | Coruss | thing is, when you're levelling from 60-70, there are almost no spots that you can multi-mob grind |
| 17:57.18 | NeoTron | how does reckoning work these days? I saw it changed but didn't look at the details |
| 17:57.21 | jme | Coruss: so level holy or ret? hate the idea of not taking on more than one mob |
| 17:57.31 | Coruss | Arrowmaster: wait till 40 |
| 17:57.35 | Mudkips | ret leveling beyond mid 40's is really slow |
| 17:57.40 | Gnarfoz | prot ftw |
| 17:57.41 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:57.44 | NeoTron | definitely start as ret |
| 17:57.45 | Mudkips | since your dps isn't going up much with the mobs hps |
| 17:57.49 | Coruss | jme: level ret, holy is gimped until you can get into the crit healing talents |
| 17:57.49 | dylanm | Respec to prot then, yeah. You can't get by without the respec, lightly. |
| 17:57.58 | jme | Coruss: ok |
| 17:58.08 | Gnarfoz | levelled my paladin all the way from 30 to 70 as prot... sweet |
| 17:58.13 | Coruss | Arrowmaster: the earliest possible time to respec ret is after you get seal of light, which isn't until the mid-late 30s |
| 17:58.16 | Gnarfoz | (dumped him then, picked up my rogue again :D) |
| 17:58.29 | Arrowmaster | i have SoL |
| 17:58.36 | Coruss | s/respec ret/respec prot |
| 17:58.37 | Coruss | mid 30s then |
| 17:59.15 | Coruss | honestly, 20-35 or so go super easy as an alliance pally |
| 17:59.29 | jme | :X |
| 17:59.31 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking 40 since i have some SM mail gear and can use a friends shadowpriest for farm for the sheild |
| 17:59.42 | Coruss | once you get verigan's fist, put a chant on it (crusader is nice), your dps will blow away any mobs you're grinding on |
| 18:00.02 | jme | Coruss: no love for horde? |
| 18:00.11 | jme | Coruss: and having to go back to UC to get skills will suck |
| 18:00.14 | Coruss | I kinda feel sorry for BElf pallies for not getting an equivalent weapon (the horde version of it sucks) |
| 18:00.22 | Coruss | but they get the ez-mode mount quest, so meh |
| 18:00.29 | Arrowmaster | horde so i went from Sin'dorei Warblade to Corpsemaker |
| 18:00.40 | jme | wtb horde pally trainers in org and TB |
| 18:00.45 | Coruss | lol |
| 18:00.50 | Arrowmaster | there is a pally trainer in org |
| 18:00.55 | jme | there is? |
| 18:00.58 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 18:01.00 | Arrowmaster | next to thrall |
| 18:01.30 | Speeddymon | s/wont/won't |
| 18:01.42 | NeoTron | you should definitely get a high level buddy to help you finish the verigan's fist quest at level 20-21 |
| 18:01.44 | Mudkips | the belf pallies have a superior sword from a quest |
| 18:01.45 | NeoTron | it's godly at that level |
| 18:01.58 | Mudkips | I didn't bother doing the pally quest for the weapon |
| 18:01.59 | NeoTron | Mudkips: except it sucks |
| 18:02.09 | Arrowmaster | the sword is worse than verigan's fist but better than the polearm |
| 18:02.13 | jme | Mudkips: i used the polearm on my first pally until i stopped playing it at 26 |
| 18:02.33 | Coruss | ya the polearm is what I was referring to, it doesn't compare to verigan's at all |
| 18:02.43 | Mudkips | NeoTron, compared to the shitty polearm, I'll the sword anyday |
| 18:02.53 | Mudkips | take * |
| 18:03.04 | Coruss | I think I finally dropped verigan's fist at level 32 |
| 18:03.20 | Coruss | got a BoE 2H sword that was a decent upgrade |
| 18:03.26 | Arrowmaster | can get corpsemaker at 29 |
| 18:03.27 | Mudkips | corsemaker obviously :P |
| 18:03.35 | Coruss | don't think so |
| 18:03.35 | NeoTron | yeah it's about equivalent to a low 30s wpn |
| 18:03.39 | Coruss | it was tanking oriented |
| 18:03.42 | Coruss | had armor and stuff |
| 18:03.50 | Arrowmaster | oh i have one of those too |
| 18:04.01 | Coruss | archaic defender |
| 18:04.05 | Arrowmaster | archaic defender |
| 18:04.18 | Coruss | yep |
| 18:04.28 | Coruss | lol I still have all the 2hand weapons I've levelled with in my bank |
| 18:04.50 | Arrowmaster | i have like every 1hand sword ive used on my rogue still |
| 18:05.13 | Arrowmaster | 58 rogue and i think i still have cruelbarb, outlaw saber, shadowfang |
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| 18:05.45 | Coruss | eh, rogue weapons are a dime a dozen, I keep my latest two daggers in the bank so I can respec muti if I want, and my 2 swords on my rogue (combat swords atm) |
| 18:06.05 | Mudkips | I finally gave in and sold my old weapons from the 60 days |
| 18:06.12 | Arrowmaster | good speed rogue swords arent that easy to get |
| 18:06.17 | Mudkips | like the staff and mace from the green dragons |
| 18:06.47 | Coruss | Arrowmaster: Blinkstrike + Latro's on my rogue :) |
| 18:07.08 | Arrowmaster | not bad |
| 18:07.23 | Coruss | there's no sword upgrades for me in kara |
| 18:07.24 | Arrowmaster | i replaced my bloodrazor with a green from like my 2nd quest in outlands |
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| 18:07.42 | Coruss | there's all of one dps sword in there, and it's not worth the burst tradeoff of losing blinkstrike |
| 18:07.46 | Arrowmaster | bloodrazor did me well though |
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| 18:07.53 | Arrowmaster | 45-58 |
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| 18:09.56 | NeoTron | in case you wondered btw, TK trash (pre-alar) is horrid for demo spec |
| 18:10.01 | NeoTron | too much aoe damage |
| 18:11.27 | Kaelten | ~seen Mikk |
| 18:11.30 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 6h 17m 58s ago, saying: 'wow bootloader .. muaha'. |
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| 18:14.10 | CIA-14 | 03jaslaughter * r46030 10JasonQuest/ (Comm.lua Core.lua JasonQuest.toc LogFrame.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 18:14.10 | CIA-14 | JasonQuest: |
| 18:14.10 | CIA-14 | - Fixed issue with reward items sometimes not showing up--Required a COMM change so |
| 18:14.10 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.47 | Cyrez | It's ALIVE! |
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| 18:19.25 | Coruss | why does the number keep changing? |
| 18:19.35 | Coruss | CIA-xx |
| 18:19.39 | evl | Roartindon: Any way to see the percentage of drilled down data? Like if I click myself, select melee and I'd like to see my missrate |
| 18:20.31 | Cyrez | Coruss: Just the way it works... There's a different one in my #wowace-cia every time, as well. |
| 18:20.32 | Fisker- | Because more than one bot exist |
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| 18:20.37 | phyber | cyCircled LiteStep:XLT looks so cool, shame it has to screw around with Bartender scaling :/ |
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| 18:20.48 | Mudkips | litestep is hawt |
| 18:20.55 | Mudkips | my favorite right now |
| 18:21.02 | Roartindon | evl: you mean in the hit details, which shows critical hit vs hit, vs miss etc? |
| 18:21.07 | Mudkips | + cy cirled Vol |
| 18:21.13 | Coruss | Fisker-: aaaah |
| 18:21.32 | evl | Roartindon: yeah, seeing how much misses, glances I hvae in percentage |
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| 18:23.32 | phyber | ~seen Sairen |
| 18:23.34 | purl | sairen <n=Miranda@p57B35476.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 100d 44m 42s ago, saying: 'thx Kaelten for repairing my forum account :)'. |
| 18:23.43 | durcyn | hmm |
| 18:23.48 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 18:24.02 | durcyn | i think it's about time for a shared candybar dock lib |
| 18:24.27 | Roartindon | evl: it is possible, one sec. I'll give you a tag for that level |
| 18:24.31 | Saint-N | Roartindon: do you remember what server chainsaw ended up on? |
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| 18:24.48 | Roartindon | Saint-N: Some pacific time server I believe |
| 18:24.55 | phyber | "Ash's Arm" |
| 18:24.59 | phyber | old realm. |
| 18:25.13 | phyber | or was that a shotgun? chainsaw would have been cool though. |
| 18:25.17 | durcyn | chainsaw. |
| 18:25.35 | durcyn | in army of darkness, at least. but that's also the source of "THIS IS MY BOOMSTICK" |
| 18:25.36 | Saint-N | it was an oceanic realm thats about all i remember |
| 18:26.02 | Saint-N | wonder if gatts would remmeber |
| 18:27.04 | durcyn | seriously though, candybar docks. an addon could create a dock, or use a generic one. could group up all your bars in one location, or split them into multiple per addon |
| 18:27.15 | durcyn | i might even write it if i get un-lazy |
| 18:27.41 | Roartindon | evl: Go to Damage Dealth Hit Details, Text 1, and enter this tag: [Rank]. [Key] ([Count]) [(Count/GetField("damageDealt",WindowParameter(1),"attackDetails",WindowParameter(2),"count")):Percent] |
| 18:27.53 | evl | oh dear :D thanks |
| 18:28.29 | Roartindon | The reason the percentages don't quite add up to 100% is if you have partially blocked/absorbed/resisted stuff |
| 18:28.45 | Saint-N | durcyn: that would be nice, the whole wharf idea is groovy |
| 18:29.03 | Roartindon | ie. if you get a critical hit that is also partially blocked, it counts for both, but the percentage readouts are accurate |
| 18:29.09 | Mudkips | what does candybar do? |
| 18:29.20 | phyber | what's the function where you can get what's under the cursor, eg. SomeCursorThing():GetWidth(), so I can get the width of the thing under the cursor. |
| 18:29.28 | Roartindon | GetMouseFocus() |
| 18:29.35 | phyber | thanks. |
| 18:29.46 | snurre | anyone here have any experience with AutoHotKeys (or something else that uses RegEx)? |
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| 18:33.03 | Jaxon | Regex is fun |
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| 18:34.32 | dreamss2 | regex is insane fun when u get good |
| 18:35.23 | Mudkips | regex? |
| 18:35.39 | Xuerian | Regular Expressions (Pattern matching/string searching) |
| 18:36.17 | durcyn | snurre: what pattern are you trying to use? |
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| 18:37.04 | snurre | well.. my haystack is "27784 Scintillating Coral Band 4611686019582172574 1 0 2007/03/03 20:23:12 0 Inventory Dentarg 1 2007/08/06 06:27:32 2007/08/21 06:27:32" |
| 18:37.14 | snurre | i need to get the second date and time value out of that |
| 18:37.47 | NeoTron | the key to an organize server room is good labels on cables: http://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200706/error'd/orange_cable.jpg |
| 18:37.48 | evl | *.((\d{4}\/\d{2}\/\d{2}\/){2}) |
| 18:38.17 | snurre | i can grab the first one, but when i tried i couldnt get any other than the first |
| 18:38.38 | evl | or you can split it with tabs |
| 18:38.45 | dodga | NeoTron: It's important to know the color of the cables! |
| 18:38.51 | evl | string.split("\t").slice(5) or whatever |
| 18:40.40 | NeoTron | dodga: someone MIGHT be color blind enough not to see the BRIGHT ORANGE CABLE |
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| 18:41.45 | dodga | NeoTron: I wonder who's more stupid. The people that only use orange cables, or the manufacturer putting a label "orange cable" on an orange cable.. |
| 18:41.46 | jme | NeoTron: sadly i know an IT tech that would not notice that |
| 18:41.46 | ccKep | anyone know if the EditingUI mod on http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ works on live? |
| 18:41.51 | jme | or would wonder where the crap teh orange cable is |
| 18:42.00 | Jaxon | snurre: ^ and $ let you mark the beginning or the end of the string you are matching, so that seems to be what you are missing. |
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| 18:42.11 | dodga | ccKep: It does not; at the very least it has some incompablities, according to slouken on the UI Panel |
| 18:42.23 | ccKep | meh |
| 18:42.30 | ccKep | only saw some screenshots and it looked really nice |
| 18:42.41 | Mudkips | NeoTron, I lold' |
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| 18:55.43 | Arrowmaster | ccKep: EditingUI has major problems on live |
| 18:55.59 | Arrowmaster | like not letting you quit the game other than alt-f4 |
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| 18:59.59 | Amadeo | zeeg: Register your IRC! |
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| 19:00.17 | Fisker- | omg it's mirc! |
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| 19:00.37 | jme | zeeg: ownt |
| 19:00.38 | Amadeo | it's Snak |
| 19:00.49 | Rhave | can anyone please help me with WAU |
| 19:01.05 | Rhave | every time i try to run http://www.wowace.com/wau/WowAceUpdater.application it shows up as text |
| 19:01.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Snak blows. |
| 19:01.07 | NightHawkAtWork | :P |
| 19:01.10 | Rhave | and its not installing WAU |
| 19:01.18 | |Stan| | Rhave: foll0w teh instructions! |
| 19:01.22 | Rhave | I did |
| 19:01.25 | Rhave | i install .net |
| 19:01.29 | Rhave | i installed click once |
| 19:01.35 | Rhave | and its still running as text |
| 19:01.37 | |Stan| | and ran the site in IE? |
| 19:01.41 | Rhave | yes |
| 19:01.43 | Rhave | in Ei |
| 19:02.01 | CIA-14 | 03sylvanaar * r46031 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Added stubs for an indirect reference to the split table (so external frames can work with modules which refer to the message tables directly). Changed the module loading code (bound to mess something up) |
| 19:02.02 | Rhave | in EI its showing up as XML |
| 19:02.10 | |Stan| | IE |
| 19:02.13 | Rhave | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.15 | Rhave | - <asmv1:assembly xsi:schemaLocation="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1 assembly.adaptive.xsd" manifestVersion="1.0" xmlns:dsig="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v2" xmlns:asmv1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1" xmlns:asmv2="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v2" xmlns:xrml="urn:mpeg:mpeg21:2003:01-REL-R-NS" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"> |
| 19:02.16 | Rhave | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.18 | Rhave | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.19 | Rhave | - <deployment install="true" mapFileExtensions="true"> |
| 19:02.21 | Rhave | - <subscription> |
| 19:02.24 | |Stan| | restarted your computer after .net install? |
| 19:02.26 | jme | good job |
| 19:02.28 | Rhave | yes |
| 19:02.32 | ulic | that's alot of xml |
| 19:02.37 | |Stan| | your pc is gay then |
| 19:02.40 | Rhave | thats 10% of what its called it |
| 19:02.57 | Rhave | I JUST RECENTLY REFORMATED IT |
| 19:03.00 | Rhave | with new HDD |
| 19:03.07 | jme | http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 19:03.15 | Rhave | when i click install |
| 19:03.18 | Rhave | it shows up text |
| 19:03.19 | Rhave | again |
| 19:03.23 | Rhave | in firefox |
| 19:04.08 | Rhave | :( |
| 19:04.35 | Rhave | restarting again to see if it works |
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| 19:04.42 | CIA-14 | 03sylvanaar * r46032 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CustomFilters.lua: Prat: added Deformat support to customfilters. Replacement wont work, and all matches get the same hilight. I dont see how to access the overall match in deformat, so nothing can be applied to it. |
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| 19:06.36 | sylvanaar | Rhave install the plugin that is linked on the install page |
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| 19:06.55 | sylvanaar | Rhave install the plugin that is linked on the install page |
| 19:07.02 | Rhave | its still being gay... can anyone perhaps zip me thier wua installation? |
| 19:07.04 | sylvanaar | Rhave install the plugin that is linked on the install page |
| 19:07.05 | Rhave | i did |
| 19:07.16 | Rhave | EVERYTHING is installed and everything was followed |
| 19:07.27 | Rhave | only difference is |
| 19:07.46 | Rhave | every time i try to save the .application file, it gives me EI save box instead of firefox's download menu |
| 19:07.52 | sylvanaar | then go to the plugin's home page and read how to use it? |
| 19:07.55 | Rhave | so there isn't any "clcik to run this program with " |
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| 19:09.26 | Rhave | wow |
| 19:09.36 | Rhave | when i went to the test application on the home site of the click once |
| 19:09.39 | Rhave | everything worked |
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| 19:09.51 | Rhave | but when i try to go ot the same page for WUA, it just brings it up as text |
| 19:09.59 | snurre | hm.. why won't RegExMatch(Clipboard, "(\d{4}/\d{2}/\d{2})", iDate) store the second date of a string into %iDate2%? :( |
| 19:10.03 | Rhave | so maybe its some kind of a bug with the new WUA? |
| 19:10.06 | sylvanaar | clear your cache |
| 19:10.49 | Rhave | done checking it now |
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| 19:10.59 | Rhave | oijfgsoidjfoidsjf no |
| 19:11.08 | Rhave | i REALLY think its something wrong with the site |
| 19:11.15 | Rhave | go to http://www.wowace.com/wau/WowAceUpdater.application see if you get it |
| 19:12.09 | Mudkips | Rhave are you installed on IE or firefox |
| 19:12.12 | genetik- | Works fine for me in Internet Explorer 7. |
| 19:12.18 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r46033 10Parrot/Data/Cooldowns.lua: Parrot_Cooldowns - make Spell Ready not fire when you don't have the spell. |
| 19:12.19 | Mudkips | and you the proper .net installed? |
| 19:12.24 | Rhave | i tried it on both EI and firefox |
| 19:12.26 | Rhave | works on neither |
| 19:12.27 | Mudkips | you have * |
| 19:12.32 | ckknight | IE |
| 19:12.35 | ulic | maybe your java is hosed |
| 19:12.41 | Ominous_ | i get it as well |
| 19:12.44 | ckknight | and I doubt you have .NET installed properly |
| 19:12.44 | Rhave | hmm i dont have java installed |
| 19:12.45 | Mudkips | you have .net 2.0? |
| 19:12.47 | Ominous_ | and its not hava for wau1 |
| 19:12.52 | Rhave | i do |
| 19:12.54 | Ominous_ | i do it has always worked before |
| 19:13.00 | Mudkips | maybe java does need to be updated |
| 19:13.19 | Rhave | when i go on the tester site |
| 19:13.21 | Rhave | http://www.softwarepunk.com/clickonce/tester/deploy/publish.htm |
| 19:13.29 | Rhave | and click Run on that .application file, everything works |
| 19:13.35 | Rhave | but whenever i go to WUA's one, it doesnt |
| 19:14.32 | ckknight | WAU, not WUA |
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| 19:14.55 | Rhave | yeah yeah |
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| 19:15.16 | ckknight | you got all your windows updates? |
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| 19:15.18 | Rhave | can someone perhaps just make me a zip file of thier installation folder |
| 19:15.20 | Rhave | yes service pack 2 |
| 19:15.40 | BankZ | Anyone know if autobar can load clickies you are wearing? |
| 19:15.54 | Rhave | like i said whenever i go to the test site of the developer who made click once everything works, but for http://www.wowace.com/wau/WowAceUpdater.application thingie it doesnt |
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| 19:16.09 | ckknight | SP2 does not mean fully updated. |
| 19:16.26 | Rhave | it works, its just this doesnt for some weird effing reason |
| 19:17.12 | genetik- | Actually, after playing around with the two .application files in firefox, it does appear that the servers are serving the files as different mime types. |
| 19:17.21 | Rhave | its just I dont get the "Opening WowAceUpdated.applicaiton" dialog |
| 19:17.35 | jme | genetik-: i was wondering that too |
| 19:17.47 | kergoth | SP2 isnt even close to fully updated, theres a metric ton of updates after that |
| 19:18.07 | Rhave | ummmmm |
| 19:18.11 | Rhave | i got it ot run |
| 19:18.29 | Rhave | "Cannot download applicaiton. Missing required files" Contact applicaiton vendor for assistance" |
| 19:18.49 | Rhave | bah. Cannot download the application. The application is missing required files. Contact application vendor for assistance |
| 19:18.55 | Necrathex | that crap only works in IE.. |
| 19:19.02 | Mudkips | that happened to me Rhave |
| 19:19.10 | yacoob | who needs crap, that works only on IE, this must be insecure crap! |
| 19:19.17 | Mudkips | it worked after I installed the firefox plugin then it installed perfectly |
| 19:19.43 | Necrathex | mime seems text/plain ? |
| 19:19.45 | Rhave | umm well if it says its application's fault--maybe its applications fault and not mine? |
| 19:20.05 | Rhave | i can screenshot that i have clickonce plugin installed |
| 19:21.58 | Rhave | halp? :( |
| 19:22.04 | Mudkips | lol |
| 19:22.08 | genetik- | It looks like wowace.com isn't serving the .application file with a Content-Type. |
| 19:22.44 | Rhave | Yeah! whatever ^ said! |
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| 19:22.52 | sylvanaar | it will work with IE still |
| 19:23.03 | genetik- | That's right. It works perfectly fine with IE. |
| 19:23.16 | genetik- | (If you have the frameworks installed.) |
| 19:23.18 | Rhave | when I try it with IE it gives me bunch of XML |
| 19:23.29 | Rhave | ok is there a way to check if I have framework installed |
| 19:23.31 | Rhave | so I can screenshot it |
| 19:23.35 | sylvanaar | something has changed on the serverside |
| 19:23.45 | genetik- | In your Add/Remove programs window in the control panel |
| 19:23.49 | Mudkips | they're hax0ring teh gibson |
| 19:23.50 | genetik- | It should be there. |
| 19:23.57 | jme | Mudkips: and then the planet! |
| 19:24.00 | sylvanaar | it will tell you if you open the publish page in ie |
| 19:24.23 | NightHawkAtWork | They're trashing the flow of data! trashing! THey're TRASHING!~ |
| 19:24.31 | Rhave | when I click on publish.htm |
| 19:24.35 | Rhave | and then clicking Install |
| 19:24.43 | NightHawkAtWork | hack the planet! |
| 19:24.45 | Rhave | it brings me to some xml page with nothing but text |
| 19:26.42 | Rhave | http://xs218.xs.to/xs218/07323/sendhalpplz.JPG |
| 19:26.51 | genetik- | For one, it's not just "some xml page" that you're looking at. You're looking at the .application file. The fact that you're seeing it in plain text means that your browser doesn't know what to do with it. Either because of your local settings or because of a server setting. |
| 19:27.39 | Rhave | ok then tell me how to make my browser see it as actual application |
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| 19:27.45 | Rhave | please |
| 19:27.52 | sb | mh Elkano: ping |
| 19:27.54 | genetik- | I gave up tech support years ago. |
| 19:28.18 | ZealotOnAStick | !seen ckknight |
| 19:28.18 | Diao | ckknight!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com is currently on #wowace |
| 19:28.32 | ZealotOnAStick | ~seen ckknight |
| 19:28.34 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 10m 57s) #norganna (2h 10m 57s) #wowace (2h 10m 57s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 12m 25s, last said: 'SP2 does not mean fully updated.'. |
| 19:28.34 | Rhave | can ANYONE please help me? |
| 19:28.43 | [dRaCo] | Rhave: #wau |
| 19:28.59 | sb | or Kemayo: ping? :p |
| 19:29.20 | yacoob | http://youtube.com/watch?v=kOHOrBzsguQ 8) |
| 19:29.21 | ckknight | hey ZealotOnAStick |
| 19:29.27 | RogueShadow | ~seen RogueShadow |
| 19:29.29 | purl | rogueshadow is currently on #wowi-lounge (3d 17h 52m 36s) #wowace (3d 17h 52m 36s) #wowwiki (3d 17h 52m 36s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen RogueShadow'. |
| 19:29.46 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: ping |
| 19:30.00 | CIA-14 | 03roartindon * r46034 10Assessment/Modules/ (BarInterface.lua Deaths.lua): |
| 19:30.00 | CIA-14 | Assessment |
| 19:30.00 | CIA-14 | - Now more careful with when to wipe death event log caches |
| 19:30.00 | CIA-14 | - Cosmetic code cleanups to BarInterface. No functional changes |
| 19:30.10 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: pong |
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| 19:30.18 | Rhave | maybe i should just run WAU2 with java |
| 19:30.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Why does Parrot repeatedly forget that I've disabled the Soul Shard notification? Every time I update, it toggles back on. |
| 19:30.40 | sylvanaar | there is a new server |
| 19:30.47 | Gamefaq | hiho |
| 19:30.55 | sylvanaar | i dont think the files are on it |
| 19:30.59 | Amadeo | Gamefaq: Do you have all the answers? |
| 19:31.02 | Mudkips | lol you have both IE and firefox opened |
| 19:31.21 | Gamefaq | mhh how mutch you pay?^^ |
| 19:31.40 | Punkie` | Gamefaq: how do i kill the last boss in jedi knight 2?!?!?!?!?!11 |
| 19:32.06 | Rhave | yay i just downloaded the zip file and just extracted them all |
| 19:32.10 | Gamefaq | use your force :p^^ |
| 19:32.12 | sb | mhpf |
| 19:32.30 | sb | wtb guildfu/auildlangsyne like addon for guild list *sigh* |
| 19:32.41 | Mudkips | 12(10 Gamefaq 12): what's the combo for rayden's shock fatality |
| 19:32.44 | sb | (aka: colored guild list + marked who is already on your group) |
| 19:32.53 | mikma | oh wow |
| 19:32.56 | mikma | mirc scripts <3 |
| 19:32.59 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 19:33.29 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 19:33.37 | Mudkips | lol not you |
| 19:33.50 | |Stan| | 10weeeeee |
| 19:33.54 | |Stan| | not mirc |
| 19:34.01 | |Stan| | :P |
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| 19:36.56 | [Liquidor] | Anyone experienced with PS? |
| 19:37.09 | Gamefaq | Mudkips: http://www.gamefaqs.com |
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| 19:44.52 | rubik | liquidor as in reputations.mygamesonline.org author liquidor? |
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| 19:45.05 | SaiBork | Hello there everyone |
| 19:46.46 | SaiBork | I really could use some help with thise Ace2 modding, I need to know how to get started on getting tooltip info when hovering over itemlinks or items (like in your bag) |
| 19:47.08 | SaiBork | so actually just any item tooltip |
| 19:49.47 | Amadeo | So my Hunter is 21 now and I have a new Cat pet...what skills should I teach it for leveling up? |
| 19:50.18 | [dRaCo] | that aggro thingy, claw, dash |
| 19:50.47 | mort | meh, one of our rogues didn't kill his inner demon fast enough.... |
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| 19:50.54 | Megalon | yea, grow, claw, bite, dash |
| 19:51.55 | mikma | Amadeo: Purr rank 1 |
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| 19:52.26 | Fisker- | fap rank 10 |
| 19:52.37 | Antiarc|Work | Hey guys |
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| 19:52.48 | Antiarc|Work | Did you know the only fight that per-target threat is useful on is the Illidari Council? |
| 19:52.49 | ckknight | SaiBork: look on wowwiki under widget api under GameTooltip |
| 19:52.51 | Antiarc|Work | It's true. |
| 19:53.00 | SaiBork | yeah im trying that |
| 19:53.31 | SaiBork | im reading loads, but trying to figure out how to get the hooking done (need to start somewhere right) |
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| 19:54.06 | Amadeo | hm, dash, that's a good one |
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| 19:54.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Dash isn't available until your pet is level 30, though |
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| 19:55.31 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc|Work: sure. who said that again? ^^ |
| 19:55.46 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: I'm doing something horrid |
| 19:55.50 | ckknight | you'll never forgive me |
| 19:55.51 | Antiarc|Work | http://elitistjerks.com/443475-post1578.html |
| 19:55.53 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: What are you doing? |
| 19:55.56 | ckknight | ...I'm actually playing WoW |
| 19:56.02 | Antiarc|Work | *GASP* |
| 19:56.06 | Antiarc|Work | What the hell, dude. |
| 19:56.07 | ckknight | I know |
| 19:56.08 | Antiarc|Work | What the hell. |
| 19:56.10 | ckknight | don't look at me |
| 19:56.10 | Antiarc|Work | I thought I knew you. |
| 19:56.12 | ckknight | just dinged 43 |
| 19:56.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:57.17 | ckknight | I'm the only one on in the guild |
| 19:57.21 | jme | lol |
| 19:57.25 | snurre | http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic21888.html anyone have a clue? |
| 19:57.41 | jme | ckknight: so you actually play? i thought you just wrote code |
| 19:57.50 | ckknight | this is an anomoly |
| 19:57.54 | jme | ah, ok |
| 19:58.02 | ckknight | basically, writing AceConfig is hard. |
| 19:58.06 | ckknight | so I'm taking a break |
| 19:58.10 | jme | so you had to kill some boars? |
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| 19:58.45 | ckknight | mostly gorillas |
| 19:58.45 | sylvanaar | ckknight = ants in the pants |
| 19:59.02 | jme | cogwheel couldn't handle you playing |
| 19:59.04 | jme | so he left |
| 19:59.32 | SaiBork | snurre, cant you use the regexmatch on the --- and just use the 2nd part from the resulting array? |
| 19:59.37 | sb | ohh |
| 19:59.44 | sb | wowjutsu for eu <3 |
| 20:00.03 | snurre | i cant get a 2nd part from any array.. |
| 20:00.22 | SaiBork | hey, im used to php, i like me arrays ;) |
| 20:00.47 | jme | looks like i'm not gong to have any more time to play when classes start than i am now |
| 20:00.55 | jme | i'll still be at work when i'm not in class :( |
| 20:01.16 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: You've got four hours to live before I /gkick you and blacklist you from every Scarlet Monastary-raiding guild in the battlegroup. |
| 20:01.25 | jme | haha |
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| 20:02.49 | Coruss | lol |
| 20:03.31 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: ? |
| 20:03.39 | Jaxon | snurre: you need to set anchors. |
| 20:03.52 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: I was thinking of running Uldaman |
| 20:04.03 | Jaxon | snurre: $ matches end of line. |
| 20:04.37 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: For daring to actually play. :O |
| 20:04.46 | snurre | Jaxon: how would that help me? there's only one line |
| 20:04.56 | Antiarc|Work | Also, I will blast you through Ulda if you'd like, but I hate that instance more than any other int the game ;_; |
| 20:05.09 | ckknight | yea, I was thinking of getting a guildie to run through |
| 20:05.15 | jme | i don't know if i ever ran it |
| 20:05.24 | jme | i skipped everything from SM to ramparts |
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| 20:05.31 | jme | and then everything from ramparts to 70 |
| 20:05.42 | jme | with the exception of an UB run |
| 20:05.46 | ckknight | I've done a lot of SM |
| 20:05.52 | ckknight | got most all the good stuff from there |
| 20:06.01 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46035 10Recount/ (6 files): Recount - Can now change the colors of realtime graphs by right clicking them |
| 20:06.20 | CIA-14 | 03roartindon * r46036 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: |
| 20:06.20 | CIA-14 | Assessment |
| 20:06.20 | CIA-14 | - Stop slay messages on group members counting a double death |
| 20:06.53 | SaiBork | another new recount? cant it be put on less often but just include more changes? ;) |
| 20:06.59 | Jaxon | Sorry, snurre, got mobbed by sap beasts |
| 20:07.05 | CIA-14 | 03nalumis * r46037 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_RestFu: added deDE localization |
| 20:07.07 | hypetech | if I replace swstats with recount, then my damage won't sync to the people using swstats will it? |
| 20:07.17 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46038 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Widens the color support for setting the color of realtime graphs (supports {r=r,g=g,b=b,a=a} now) |
| 20:07.30 | Cryect | No it won't |
| 20:07.45 | Cryect | Or I shoudl say thats right it won't |
| 20:07.47 | Jaxon | snurre: Give this a shot for iTime RegExMatch(Clipboard, "(\d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2})\w+\d{5}$", iTime) |
| 20:07.50 | hypetech | lol |
| 20:07.55 | hypetech | that sucks =( |
| 20:08.12 | Cryect | Almost ready to finalize a 1.0 release |
| 20:08.32 | hypetech | what about the other way around? does recount accept sync data FROM swstats? |
| 20:08.38 | SaiBork | oh, im hooking in tooltips ;) |
| 20:08.53 | SaiBork | just you wait |
| 20:08.54 | snurre | Jaxon: doesn't match anything then |
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| 20:10.19 | omega | ok, I must be the most retarded person ever, but how do I move the quartz casting bar? |
| 20:10.35 | [dRaCo] | unlock and move it. |
| 20:10.40 | Jaxon | snurre: regardless, you need to mark the send of line with $ because otherwise the regexp will match from the beginning of the line going forward and spit out the first pattern match it finds. $ matches end of line meaning it won't match up against the first time/date that it comes across. |
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| 20:11.05 | omega | how do I unlock? |
| 20:11.20 | Jaxon | omega: /quartz has the position settings |
| 20:11.25 | [dRaCo] | options, player bar |
| 20:11.42 | omega | ahh |
| 20:11.43 | omega | thanks |
| 20:11.49 | snurre | there are 3 matches.. sorry, i just dont see how the anchor will prevent the first, but not the second from being stored |
| 20:11.58 | Bruners | how can i hide the clock/timeicon completly? |
| 20:12.05 | SaiBork | guys, GameTooltip:AddLine question |
| 20:12.13 | SaiBork | self:SecureHook(GameTooltip, "Show") |
| 20:12.29 | SaiBork | in my show function i do: |
| 20:12.29 | SaiBork | if itemName then |
| 20:12.29 | SaiBork | GameTooltip:AddLine("ARGH!!") |
| 20:12.29 | SaiBork | end |
| 20:12.45 | SaiBork | why does it show ARGH!! on 2 lines instead of just one? |
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| 20:13.15 | snurre | Jaxon: could i do a FoundPos := RegExMatch() for the first, then just do another RegExMatch() for the second with %FoundPos% as offset? |
| 20:13.17 | Jaxon | snurre: the scope of your match is too limited and it is returning the first match it finds, so you need to broaden your regexp to include more of what to expect. |
| 20:13.30 | ckknight | SaiBork: likely cause it's being called twice. |
| 20:13.41 | ckknight | SaiBork: you want to hook the script "OnShow" |
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| 20:14.21 | snurre | Jaxon: well, for some reason all documentation ive read says it can store multiple matches into numbered variables, but I dont understand how to do it |
| 20:14.40 | Jaxon | snurre: multiple parenthesis |
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| 20:15.21 | snurre | doh |
| 20:16.56 | SaiBork | ckknight: Error: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook method "OnShow" failed, it does not exist in the given object "table: 07A27380". |
| 20:17.01 | SaiBork | Show works |
| 20:17.11 | ckknight | note how I said script and not method. |
| 20:17.40 | ulic | ckknight: any chance of allowing the font size in parrot to be less than 12? looks like the slider stops at 12 |
| 20:17.59 | ckknight | why so small? |
| 20:18.08 | hypetech | how do I get the icons to not cover the text in the title bar of recount? |
| 20:18.12 | SaiBork | hey im just trying stuff, i have no clue whats the difference with that hooking, i was glad i got a hook in the tooltip :P |
| 20:18.15 | ulic | 12 just a tad to be for my liking in one of the boxes. |
| 20:18.38 | ulic | s/be/big |
| 20:18.39 | ckknight | SaiBork: well now you know to hook the script and not the method |
| 20:20.00 | SaiBork | other way around? |
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| 20:26.16 | CIA-14 | 03roartindon * r46039 10Assessment/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:26.16 | CIA-14 | Assessment |
| 20:26.16 | CIA-14 | - Allow nil fightData to be passed around |
| 20:26.27 | CIA-14 | 03starinnia * r46040 10SimpleMD/ (. SMD_Menu.lua SimpleMD.lua SimpleMD.toc): |
| 20:26.27 | CIA-14 | SimpleMD: |
| 20:26.27 | CIA-14 | - Right-click anchor for menu, cleaned up the menu |
| 20:26.27 | CIA-14 | - Adjusted color selection for bars |
| 20:26.27 | CIA-14 | - Cleaned up Libs |
| 20:28.27 | hypetech | what does AlchCheck do? |
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| 20:35.29 | Chompers | Cryect: |
| 20:35.31 | Chompers | x41]: Recount-$Revision: 45936 $\Recount_Modes.lua:181: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 20:35.42 | Ominous_ | cyrez: ping |
| 20:38.41 | CIA-14 | 03phyber * r46042 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc Libs/): |
| 20:38.41 | CIA-14 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: |
| 20:38.42 | CIA-14 | - Added missing external |
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| 20:50.20 | Kemayo | sb: You pinged? |
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| 20:53.46 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r46043 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Souls: add curse of tongues trigger |
| 20:59.20 | Elkano | sb: pong |
| 21:00.32 | CIA-14 | 03xbeeps * r46044 10ThreatToKTM/ (embeds.xml libs/): |
| 21:00.32 | CIA-14 | ThreatToKTM: |
| 21:00.32 | CIA-14 | - Added babble-race, required by Threat-1.0 |
| 21:01.05 | sb | Elkano, Kemayo: wtb guildfu/auildlangsyne like addon for guild list *sigh* any ideas? |
| 21:01.08 | sb | (aka: colored guild list + marked who is already on your group) |
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| 21:01.27 | sb | but not display as fubar plugin but guild list replacement :o |
| 21:01.37 | sb | (dont know if thats possible w/o tainting stuff) |
| 21:02.00 | [dRaCo] | auldlangsyne does that with the friends list |
| 21:02.11 | sb | i know |
| 21:02.23 | [dRaCo] | so it should be possible with the guild list, too |
| 21:02.28 | sb | mh |
| 21:02.47 | CIA-14 | 03starinnia * r46045 10SimpleMD/SimpleMD.toc: |
| 21:02.47 | CIA-14 | SimpleMD: |
| 21:02.47 | CIA-14 | - fixed toc file |
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| 21:09.38 | SaiBork | any other coders around? |
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| 21:11.25 | SaiBork | http://ace.pastey.net/71948 |
| 21:12.20 | SaiBork | it adds lines twice or 3 times even, ckknight said something about HookScript, but that is just maingit more unclear for me :( |
| 21:12.24 | SaiBork | making* |
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| 21:13.55 | SaiBork | nevermind! :D |
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| 21:16.16 | ccKep | HookScript(GameTooltip, "OnShow") ? |
| 21:16.46 | SaiBork | yeah, but didnt understand where to put it, but its just replacing the other one :P |
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| 21:16.55 | ccKep | yeah |
| 21:17.05 | ccKep | don't forget to call the original hook in your function though |
| 21:17.24 | SaiBork | hey im new to this, i normally just edit excisting mods |
| 21:17.53 | SaiBork | why? |
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| 21:18.48 | ccKep | because other addons might want to add their informations too |
| 21:19.14 | Chompers | sb: betterguild is quite nice |
| 21:19.15 | SaiBork | seems they do, outfitter adds stuff in there too |
| 21:19.20 | ccKep | something like http://ace.pastey.net/71949 I'd guess |
| 21:19.43 | Chompers | it's not exactly what you're after though |
| 21:19.50 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r46046 10NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc): NextStep: add func shotr text, announce |
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| 21:20.33 | SaiBork | ok, so just return the hook to end it |
| 21:21.06 | ccKep | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceHook-2.1#:HookScript.28object.2C_.22scriptName.22_.5B.2C_.22handlerName.22_or_handler.5D.29 |
| 21:21.29 | sb | Chompers: testing... |
| 21:21.37 | SaiBork | yeah i know that link, but that docu isnt helping me all too much :P |
| 21:21.46 | ccKep | there's an example xD |
| 21:21.58 | ccKep | with an OnMouseDown event |
| 21:22.12 | SaiBork | yeah and i really didnt get how to use it in my script |
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| 21:26.16 | sb | Chompers: no colors ;p |
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| 21:38.23 | sylvanaar | cant you just add more fontstrings to gametooltip? |
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| 21:39.29 | sylvanaar | doesnt it have a fixed number? maybe i should just look |
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| 21:42.26 | SaiBork | it works now sylv |
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| 21:45.31 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r46047 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua FuBar_RaidBuffFu.toc localization.lua): |
| 21:45.31 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 21:45.31 | CIA-14 | - added an option for each buff to scan buff tooltips for a match too |
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| 21:48.52 | Kemayo | sb: ALS doesn't show the group stuff in the base friends list... but there's nothing particularly stopping it from doing so, either. |
| 21:49.43 | Kemayo | sb: I've had a few other people ask me to extend focus to the guild panel. I'll add it to my to-do list. If I can finish off the website I'm working on now, I might get something done in the next few days. |
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| 21:49.48 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r46048 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/: |
| 21:49.48 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 21:49.48 | CIA-14 | - adding GratuityLib to externals |
| 21:50.13 | baer_ | damn. |
| 21:50.22 | baer_ | my gruul/magtheridon group broke. |
| 21:50.54 | sb | Kemayo: cool :) |
| 21:51.35 | baer_ | btw, what are you guys using as raidframes? |
| 21:51.36 | Arrowmaster | SaiBork: http://ace.pastey.net/71955 |
| 21:52.37 | Mudkips | sraidframes. one and only. |
| 21:53.58 | RaydenUni | i don't raid much, but pitbull seems like it would work for me |
| 21:54.00 | BankZ | What do you guys like better, recap or recount? |
| 21:54.36 | Arrowmaster | pitbull raidframes have 'issues' ive heard |
| 21:55.23 | RaydenUni | like? |
| 21:55.36 | Jaxon | They work fine for me. |
| 21:56.09 | Arrowmaster | mostly preformance ive heard |
| 21:56.17 | yacoob | people talk... |
| 21:56.21 | Mudkips | pitbull raid frames are huge lol |
| 21:56.54 | Jaxon | A lot of the performance heavy parts of Pitbull can be turned off. |
| 21:57.07 | Mudkips | I should have SSd it when I first joined a raid with a new pitbull config |
| 21:57.10 | Jaxon | RangeChecking, that module that draws interaction lines. |
| 21:57.32 | SaiBork | Arrowmaster: Whats wrong with, http://ace.pastey.net/71953 |
| 21:57.37 | RaydenUni | you can change the size of pitbull frames |
| 21:57.47 | RaydenUni | but yes, by default they would cover the entire screen if you were ina raid |
| 21:58.49 | Mudkips | hahah |
| 21:59.04 | Antiarc|Work | I use Grid for raid frames. |
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| 22:00.01 | Arrowmaster | SaiBork: well your suppost to do all event registering and hooking in onenable instead of oninit unless you have a good reason to, you can hook OnTooltipSetItem instead of OnShow so your hook only gets called when its actually an item tooltip, and i think you werent calling the return hook properly |
| 22:01.26 | mort | ./o t imbued nether |
| 22:01.38 | mort | fc |
| 22:01.39 | Arrowmaster | oh and i removed the useless ;'s |
| 22:02.05 | Arrowmaster | but thats not necessary |
| 22:02.31 | SaiBork | im used to php, so i need ;'s ;) |
| 22:02.32 | BankZ | pitbull is AWSOME |
| 22:02.36 | ccKep | [23:54:36] <Arrowmaster> pitbull raidframes have 'issues' ive heard <<< try repeatedly targetting & untargetting yourself and watch memory usage go up :o |
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| 22:03.02 | SaiBork | ccKep: check what Arrowmaster did with the code, might help you too ;) |
| 22:03.06 | rubik | haha.. really? i never tried... |
| 22:03.17 | ccKep | SaiBork: I'm not using hooks ;) |
| 22:03.22 | SaiBork | okie |
| 22:04.06 | ccKep | its like +5 KiB memory usage per target/untarget cycle for me |
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| 22:04.35 | ccKep | only visible frames are player, target, targettarget :o |
| 22:04.39 | Arrowmaster | theres some item price mods on the svn you could look at for more help with hooking, although some of them probably dont use 'OnTooltipSetItem' because theyre hooking a bunch of other stuff inorder to get the stacksize of whatever theyre mouseovering |
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| 22:04.56 | BankZ | besides Violation, does anything else synch with SWS? |
| 22:05.02 | Arrowmaster | ccKep: you running embeded librarys or standalone? |
| 22:05.08 | ccKep | standalone |
| 22:05.45 | ccKep | its "PitBull" going up, not Ace2 or anything other |
| 22:05.45 | Arrowmaster | hmm might want to make sure ckk hears about that |
| 22:06.01 | Arrowmaster | i asked about embeds because i was wondering if maybe it was dogtag |
| 22:06.19 | sylvanaar | try pitbull with a minimal set of modules |
| 22:06.35 | rubik | yeah, maybe disable tototototototototototottot |
| 22:06.38 | ccKep | dogtag stays at a constant memusage |
| 22:06.55 | ccKep | as i said, visible frames: player, target, targettarget (all showing me at that time of course) |
| 22:07.29 | sylvanaar | disable all the pitbull modules...test...enable half...test, etx |
| 22:07.30 | ccKep | noticed that while debugging my own ace2 module (huuuge memleak somewhere ^.^) |
| 22:08.28 | ccKep | I don't care that much about that +4 KiB / target change, gets garbage collected anyway ^.^ |
| 22:08.35 | sylvanaar | yeah |
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| 22:25.35 | Necrathex | lol, check this out, guild named 'The city of the honor' exists on 17 european wow realms and has 1 member each, a dwarf female hunter bot called Ablue or something similar |
| 22:26.18 | Necrathex | http://armory.wow-europe.com/search.xml?searchQuery=The%20city%20of%20the%20honor&searchType=guilds |
| 22:27.17 | CIA-14 | 03morgalm * r46049 10MorgDKP/ (Morgdkp.pl MorgdkpFIOLLA.pl MorgdkpXOXEV.pl): |
| 22:27.17 | CIA-14 | MorgDKP: |
| 22:27.17 | CIA-14 | - added alternate dkp parse file for Fiolla/Xoxev and updated original |
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| 22:31.50 | Ominous | omg how long does wine take to compile |
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| 22:36.26 | Kyahx | Why are you compiling it? |
| 22:36.27 | Kaelten | whats the key binding to show frame rate? |
| 22:36.36 | Kyahx | ctrl+R |
| 22:36.38 | NightHawkAtWork | ctrl |
| 22:36.39 | NightHawkAtWork | r |
| 22:36.54 | Ominous | Kyahx: cos im following a guide which includes a patch to the source code |
| 22:37.21 | NightHawkAtWork | Ominous: go make a sandwich, grab a beer, and read a book. |
| 22:37.26 | Kyahx | compiling takes too long, I never saw much benefit from wow-specific patches atleast |
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| 22:38.16 | Ominous | bah screw it ill just install it |
| 22:38.44 | NightHawkAtWork | psh. compiling is hardcore! installing from binaries is for losers and pansies! |
| 22:38.44 | NightHawkAtWork | :P |
| 22:43.01 | Necrathex | gentoo ftw |
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| 22:43.49 | Pkekyo | ffs, I keep falling for different health/power bar textures all the time >.< |
| 22:44.06 | Pkekyo | wtb one that outshines all the alternatives so I can be done with it plx |
| 22:44.18 | Cyrez | ~seen kemayo |
| 22:44.21 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 54m 38s, last said: 'sb: I've had a few other people ask me to extend focus to the guild panel. I'll add it to my to-do list. If I can finish off the website I'm working on now, I might get something done in the next few days.'. |
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| 22:47.52 | Cyrez | Kemayo: Ping! :) |
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| 22:51.09 | BankZ | what do you guys think, recap or recount? |
| 22:51.39 | Bruners | i have to many buttons http://ui.ipwn.se/i/72.jpg |
| 22:53.21 | sb | mhh no Bruners :o |
| 22:58.55 | Kaelten | I hate trac |
| 23:00.57 | dodga | Kaelten: Why? |
| 23:01.17 | Kaelten | moving the old installation to the new |
| 23:01.29 | Kaelten | its being a pita |
| 23:01.33 | Saint-N | trac is the work of the debbil |
| 23:01.35 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r46050 10Parrot/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:01.35 | CIA-14 | Parrot - separate out the enter/leave combat stuff into its own file. |
| 23:01.35 | CIA-14 | - add a primary trigger "Check every XX seconds". |
| 23:01.36 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46051 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 23:01.36 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 23:01.36 | CIA-14 | - code cleaning which should result in slightly less memory usage |
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| 23:01.51 | Saint-N | bruners: i like the layout at the bottom of yer ui |
| 23:02.03 | dodga | Kaelten: Why? trac-admin hotcopy :D |
| 23:04.40 | Kaelten | I kept getting db is malformed errors |
| 23:05.25 | Kaelten | so I'm re indexing the repository :s |
| 23:05.47 | dodga | Hm, how big is the Subversion repository anyway? Like 1gb already? :D |
| 23:06.17 | pastamancer | 1.8GB last I checked |
| 23:06.23 | dodga | wowzies :> |
| 23:06.45 | pastamancer | that's not too bad, I have a 10GB VSS repo at work |
| 23:06.45 | Pkekyo | http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3448/234tz6.jpg anyone able to tell me what raid frames these are, and what bar skin he has on his unitframes? |
| 23:07.27 | dodga | Source Safe? I always thought it was really crappy |
| 23:07.34 | pastamancer | it is |
| 23:07.36 | dodga | Pkekyo: The skin looks like Charcoal |
| 23:07.55 | dodga | Bars could be anything, but I put my money on PitBull |
| 23:08.09 | dodga | pastamancer: Using it due to company policy? |
| 23:08.11 | Kemayo | Cyrez: ? |
| 23:08.11 | Pkekyo | ofc it has to be the ONE skin ag_uf doesn't have >.< |
| 23:08.36 | Pkekyo | dodga: how can I get that skin in aguf? |
| 23:08.50 | dodga | Pkekyo: Actually it really is PitBull.. just look how ubersized the lootmaster icon is :D |
| 23:08.59 | pastamancer | dodga: historical reasons, looking to migrate it to svn, but vss2svn is having trouble |
| 23:09.00 | dodga | Pkekyo: Hm, doesn't agUF use SharedMedia? |
| 23:09.17 | Cyrez | Kemayo: Hiya, found a little bug in AuldLangSyne... There's a problem with the TOC that prevents Babble-Class-2.2 from loading in LoD. |
| 23:09.35 | dodga | pastamancer: I see |
| 23:09.50 | Pkekyo | dodga: don't have a clue, that's why I'm asking :> |
| 23:09.50 | Pkekyo | - and still haven't quite understood what this sharedmedia stuff is... |
| 23:10.07 | dodga | Ha, while I'm here.. could it be, that addons communicating via the addon channel have problems with people from other realms? |
| 23:10.41 | dodga | Pkekyo: SharedMedia is an addon that brings textures/sounds/fonts to other addons, so they don't have to be deployed with them |
| 23:10.52 | dodga | Okay, it's more of a library, but whatever :D |
| 23:11.00 | pastamancer | dodga: it's usually fine |
| 23:11.08 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 23:11.14 | Cyrez | Kemayo: I think all ya gotta do is change Babble-2.2 in X-Embeds to Babble-Class-2.2 and that should do it. |
| 23:11.29 | Pkekyo | I have SharedMediaLib in my addons folder |
| 23:11.47 | dodga | Pkekyo: It seems agUF does use SharedMedia; at least it got it listed in it's embeds |
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| 23:11.57 | Kemayo | Cyrez: Oh, right, people unpackage those things. How silly. :P |
| 23:11.59 | dodga | Pkekyo: But you cannot select "Charcoal" as texture in agUF? |
| 23:12.08 | Tawerner | good evening |
| 23:12.35 | Pkekyo | my options are: BantoBar, Blizzard, Cilo, Gloss, Otravi, Round, SMooth, Steel |
| 23:12.35 | Pkekyo | same with Omen |
| 23:12.42 | Pkekyo | and Violation |
| 23:12.47 | dodga | Kemayo: You probably forgot already, but I highlighted you some days ago due to SendWho-strangeness. Just wanted to let you know, that it is not an issue with ALS |
| 23:13.12 | dodga | Pkekyo: Do you have "SharedMedia" and "SharedMediaLib" installed? |
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| 23:13.32 | CIA-14 | 03kemayo * r46052 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.toc: |
| 23:13.32 | CIA-14 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 23:13.32 | CIA-14 | -Change Babble-2.2 to Babble-Class-2.2 in X-Embeds. |
| 23:13.34 | Pkekyo | only SharedMediaLib is in my addons folder |
| 23:13.42 | dodga | Pkekyo: Try installing SharedMedia, too |
| 23:13.49 | Cyrez | TY. <3 |
| 23:13.49 | Ominous | !ar 1353 |
| 23:13.50 | ThraeBot | Ominous: Arena rating from 1353 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 0, 5v5: 2519 |
| 23:13.50 | Kemayo | dodga: I was fairly certain it wasn't. :) Did you track down what was doing it? |
| 23:14.11 | Ominous | !ap 1353 |
| 23:14.11 | ThraeBot | Ominous: Arena points from a rating of 1353 is, 2v2: 224, 3v3: 256, 5v5: 320 |
| 23:14.23 | dodga | Kemayo: I now believe it is not unasked /who replies, but some addon is trying to talk to people from other realms, most probably in the hidden addon channel |
| 23:14.36 | Ominous | !ap 1340 |
| 23:14.37 | ThraeBot | Ominous: Arena points from a rating of 1340 is, 2v2: 220, 3v3: 252, 5v5: 315 |
| 23:15.08 | dodga | I wonder if there are issues when addons "sync" with people from another realm |
| 23:15.30 | dodga | Maybe due to their name being "name-realm" or the like |
| 23:15.39 | Pkekyo | dodga: thanks for the tip |
| 23:15.50 | dodga | Pkekyo: You're welcome |
| 23:15.57 | Pkekyo | not sure if it works though :p |
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| 23:16.12 | dodga | Pkekyo: Charcoal.tga is in SharedMedia, at least over here |
| 23:16.13 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r46053 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/localization.lua: |
| 23:16.13 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 23:16.13 | CIA-14 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 23:16.29 | Pkekyo | for some reason that altered my fonts O.o |
| 23:16.59 | dodga | Pkekyo: Yeah it brings fonts, too. You probably need to reselect them |
| 23:18.32 | Pkekyo | piece of shit |
| 23:18.39 | Pkekyo | but atleast I got some new bar textures :> |
| 23:20.02 | Pkekyo | dodga: yeah, it's all good now :> |
| 23:20.11 | kergoth | anyone know a decent small standalone fsr timer addon? |
| 23:20.35 | Pkekyo | aggrovating that people on blizz forums won't comment on my new UI screenies....I've run out of ideas of what to do with it :< |
| 23:20.43 | dodga | kergoth: There is NabuFiveSec on svn |
| 23:21.06 | kergoth | hmm, forgot about that one, thanks |
| 23:21.12 | Mudkips | sekkyo? |
| 23:24.34 | Pkekyo | Solo: http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2003/wowscrnshot080807214205yr1.jpg |
| 23:24.34 | Pkekyo | Party: http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/6961/wowscrnshot080807232547iu2.jpg |
| 23:24.34 | Pkekyo | Raid: http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1534/wowscrnshot080807231942bm6.jpg |
| 23:24.38 | Pkekyo | any ideas/tips? |
| 23:24.56 | dodga | First thing I see is |
| 23:25.04 | dodga | Buttons for First Aid, Fishing, etc |
| 23:25.08 | Mudkips | get rid of the girly swirly stuff on the top of the screen Pkekyo |
| 23:25.12 | dodga | Do you really need them visible all the time? |
| 23:25.29 | dodga | When I need the first aid button I press p and click the icon |
| 23:25.52 | Mudkips | fubar transparency make it 0% |
| 23:26.00 | Pkekyo | Mudkips: I love the artsy stuff :< |
| 23:26.28 | Mudkips | hide your keybindings, do you really need to see them? |
| 23:26.45 | dodga | Another thing is the combat log. Don't tell me you actually look at it during fights :D |
| 23:27.03 | Shirik | I do :/ |
| 23:27.13 | ckknight | I don't :-P |
| 23:27.26 | Mudkips | swirly artsy stuff makes you look like a girly man tauren :P |
| 23:27.32 | ckknight | I just use Parrot |
| 23:27.53 | dodga | ckknight: I like to have it as reference why our MT died, or what happened to me in battlegrounds |
| 23:28.02 | dodga | e.g. pallies chain-stunning and -critting me... |
| 23:28.05 | Shirik | I heard parrot is horrible. Whomever coded it should never open WoW again |
| 23:28.07 | Tawerner | is that Aloft over the other player's head? |
| 23:28.09 | ckknight | well, that's fine |
| 23:28.12 | ckknight | Shirik: ...? |
| 23:28.16 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 23:28.28 | Shirik | I was expecting something more like a kick :P |
| 23:28.30 | ckknight | *bitchslap* |
| 23:28.57 | Mudkips | Pkekyo, use a darker texture on your bars if you want to keep the black swirls so you have an overall theme, maybe change the font too |
| 23:30.07 | Pkekyo | Mudkips: got any fonts to recommend? |
| 23:30.17 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/stats/june.html |
| 23:30.18 | sb | yup bar texture sucks :p |
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| 23:31.07 | Mudkips | Pkekyo, nope |
| 23:31.13 | NightHawkAtWork | Kaelten: you can't track what wau users grab? |
| 23:32.23 | Kaelten | nope |
| 23:32.32 | Kaelten | well wait what do you mean? |
| 23:32.54 | NightHawkAtWork | I mean what they download individually |
| 23:32.57 | Coruss | assume: I think he means track what addons each WAU connection grabs and add to their totals |
| 23:33.14 | Kaelten | nope |
| 23:33.32 | NightHawkAtWork | hm, why is that, out of curiosity? |
| 23:33.34 | Kaelten | well I guess in theory I could. |
| 23:33.35 | Ominous | wow runs better not in window mode in linux right> |
| 23:33.36 | Coruss | does WAU grab from the zips or SVN? |
| 23:33.40 | Kaelten | ya I could |
| 23:33.43 | Kaelten | zips |
| 23:33.51 | kergoth | what, nabufivesec uses surfacelib still? |
| 23:33.53 | kergoth | sheesh |
| 23:34.28 | NightHawkAtWork | Kaelten: I'm just not sure how a http connection via wau is different than one from someone actually browsing to the page and downloading a zip |
| 23:34.41 | Arrowmaster | hmm i seem to have found a bug with AddonLoader, with override set to always it will load a mod then overwrite the slashcommands |
| 23:34.44 | Kaelten | oh its not |
| 23:34.51 | Kaelten | thats just a rough count based on ip |
| 23:35.24 | Pkekyo | dodgaButtons for First Aid, Fishing, etc |
| 23:35.24 | Pkekyo | dodgaDo you really need them visible all the time? |
| 23:35.24 | Pkekyo | no, I don't but dunno how to hide them ;> |
| 23:35.34 | dodga | Pkekyo: Isn't that a normal action bar? |
| 23:35.52 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, thats my point, I just figured the script parses access logs or whatnot, so how/why is it making the distinction? :P |
| 23:36.19 | Pkekyo | dodga: no |
| 23:36.26 | Tawerner | perhaps per Referred? |
| 23:36.29 | Diao | what bar is it |
| 23:36.33 | Tawerner | *Referer |
| 23:36.37 | Pkekyo | addon named TradeBar |
| 23:36.44 | Diao | oh |
| 23:36.54 | dodga | I see |
| 23:37.06 | Diao | doesn't have an option to |
| 23:37.08 | Diao | hide until mouseover |
| 23:37.09 | Diao | or something? |
| 23:37.12 | dodga | Then screw that addon and use Bartender3 :> |
| 23:37.22 | Diao | it looks like he is using bt3 already |
| 23:37.26 | Diao | for regular action bars |
| 23:37.26 | NightHawkAtWork | get manufac :P |
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| 23:39.17 | Pkekyo | Diao: no |
| 23:39.29 | Pkekyo | yes, I am |
| 23:39.32 | Pkekyo | wtf is manufac? |
| 23:42.30 | BankZ | Is recount and recap pretty much the same? I mean does the same thing |
| 23:42.51 | Pkekyo | yes, methinks |
| 23:43.11 | dodga | Recount is more graphical, i.e. it shows you nice charts and stuff |
| 23:43.22 | BankZ | I think I am gonna use recap the best |
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| 23:43.33 | dodga | And Recap is reaaaally detailed (though I don't know how much information Recount presents) |
| 23:44.09 | sb | recount is for all group/raid members |
| 23:44.31 | Diao | recount is just as detailed |
| 23:44.33 | Diao | as recap |
| 23:44.35 | Diao | more so even i think |
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| 23:45.05 | Pkekyo | recap is very detailed, but you can also customize it so it works as a normal damagemeter with a few extras :> |
| 23:45.25 | NightHawkAtWork | Pkekyo: manfuac is a trade skill addon. Lets you access all your trade skills (well, except enchanting I think..) from a fubar icon. |
| 23:46.43 | Pkekyo | well, I need enchanting :< |
| 23:47.40 | NightHawkAtWork | so stick it on an action bar? it's still only 2 buttons over the 7 you have in that screenshot, which doesn't even have the enchanting profsesion |
| 23:48.23 | Zicon | Manufac includes enchanting. |
| 23:48.28 | dodga | Prfft who needs extra buttons/fubar icons for professions? |
| 23:48.39 | NightHawkAtWork | does it? I couldn't remember and just knew that enchanting was wonky. |
| 23:49.07 | Zicon | It did last week, at least. |
| 23:50.45 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: the enchanting skill is needed on my alt...my main (screenie) is BS/Mining |
| 23:51.15 | NightHawkAtWork | Pkekyo: a) pay attention, as Zicon pointed out that manufac includes enchanting. b) still 2 buttons over 7. :P |
| 23:52.29 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: doing heroic atm ;> |
| 23:54.13 | Pkekyo | also: in addition to proffessions I need 1st aid, cooking and track minerals at the very least |
| 23:54.50 | NightHawkAtWork | manufac does First aid (spell it out, its not a number) and cooking. |
| 23:55.34 | Pkekyo | track minerals? |
| 23:55.37 | Pkekyo | cooking fire? |
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| 23:56.51 | NightHawkAtWork | nope, but you can use action buttons for those. |
| 23:57.38 | NightHawkAtWork | if you even -need- them out. Frankly, i seriously doubt you -need- those to be available 100% of the time. :P |
| 23:57.45 | Pkekyo | tbh, I don't have room :> |
| 23:57.56 | Pkekyo | track minerals: I need it all_the_time |
| 23:58.01 | Pkekyo | cooking fire? not so much |
| 23:58.13 | NightHawkAtWork | do you die so often that you need to refresh track minerals? :P |
| 23:58.22 | Pkekyo | yes, without doubt |
| 23:58.32 | Cyrez | Kemayo: Babble-Class-2.2 still didn't load but I added ' local BC = AceLibrary("Babble-Class-2.2") ' into Fu/Fu.lua and that fixed it. |
| 23:58.44 | NightHawkAtWork | well, sucks to be you then. :P still, you have room if you ditch the bar of all your professions, just put an action bar there with 2-3 buttons |
| 23:59.02 | Pkekyo | NightHawkAtWork: just about to do that |
| 23:59.14 | Pkekyo | btw, what is that BabbleLib crap? I have fuckloads of those |
| 23:59.40 | Mudkips | lol |
| 23:59.47 | Mudkips | do you download with externals? |
| 23:59.51 | NightHawkAtWork | Thats what lets your translations work. :P |
| 23:59.52 | Mudkips | thats what wau 2.0 did to me |
