| 00:00.07 | Cyrez | #wowace-cia is all set up if anybody wants to check it out. |
| 00:00.35 | Cyrez | It's registered and everything. ^^ |
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| 00:03.08 | CIA-23 | 03kagaro * r45825 10CryptoLib/Crypto-1.0/Crypto-1.0.lua: CryptoLib:Crypto-1.0.lua Fixed a typo for loading MD5 |
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| 00:05.17 | Dustwhisper- | Where's some lists about the changes in 2.3 and 2.4 |
| 00:05.46 | Cyrez | ckknight: I pounded the kinks out. Let me noe if you want ChanServ love and I'll set it up in there. |
| 00:06.30 | ckknight | yea, that'd be cool |
| 00:06.33 | ckknight | good idea, btw |
| 00:06.48 | CIA-23 | 03vputz * r45826 10Casualty/ (17 files in 4 dirs): Casualty: initial import |
| 00:07.02 | Cyrez | ;) |
| 00:07.31 | Ominous | vputz: es Casualty do? |
| 00:07.42 | Ominous | what does* |
| 00:07.59 | ckknight | vputz: yea, for initial commits, you should put the description in the commit |
| 00:08.30 | Arrowmaster | 17 files in 4 dirs? wow thats a lot for an initial import |
| 00:08.31 | vputz | It's a very silly mod that actually has some use. It monitors for friendly deaths and speaks a "Casualty" warning in a neutral voice a la "Myth: The Fallen Lords" and announces it in chat and SCT if desired. Thanks for the note; I'll put a more descriptive message after I commit with external stuff set correctly. |
| 00:08.53 | Arrowmaster | vputz: using SinkLib? |
| 00:09.06 | vputz | No; not sure what SinkLib is, I'm afraid. |
| 00:09.39 | vputz | The 4 dirs is a bit misleading; one dir is a sounds directory with four samples; one is a "libs" directory with my own embedded lib in there (it's a microlib which duplicates some Ace stuff--I'm converting from a nonace mod). |
| 00:09.42 | Arrowmaster | for sending stuff to SCT like addons |
| 00:09.53 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 00:10.10 | vputz | Ah, didn't know it existed; I was being quite inappropriate and calling SCT directly, which wasn't great but I didn't know of an alternative. I'll look into it. |
| 00:11.34 | ckknight | I remember Myth |
| 00:12.12 | vputz | Unfortunately, I obviously couldn't use their sound samples, so I had to record my own, but it does okay. Curiously, the UK folks who have used it say the sound samples are way too loud, but the US folks don't see a problem. |
| 00:12.32 | Dustwhisper- | self:RegisterParserEvent( { eventType = "Cast" }, "ParseCastEvent" ) shouldn't that call ModName:ParseCastEvent everytime anyone including myself start a cast ? |
| 00:12.36 | Dustwhisper- | cause it's not firing at all here |
| 00:12.41 | Dustwhisper- | Damage event does though |
| 00:13.05 | |Stan| | beeing 3rd in Alterac roxx :P |
| 00:13.38 | Dustwhisper- | =D |
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| 00:14.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobwork] by ChanServ |
| 00:18.05 | Xuerian | vputz: That's because we like to deafen our citizens. |
| 00:18.20 | Xuerian | So they can't hear the money being vaccuumed from their pockets >.o |
| 00:18.39 | vputz | Heh heh... I'll be paying for it, though--may be moving there in September or so |
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| 00:19.11 | Xuerian | or brains from heads... or freedom from constitution.. privacy from rights.. ya know, all that sort of stuff |
| 00:21.32 | ckknight | Dustwhisper-: "Cast" isn't every single cast |
| 00:21.42 | ckknight | sometimes "Cast" isn't fired (let's all thank Blizzard now) |
| 00:21.46 | ckknight | sometimes just Damage/Heal fires |
| 00:22.44 | ZealotOnAStick | !seen Roartindon |
| 00:22.45 | Diao | Roartindon!n=jtlim@ppp121-45-51-120.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net was last seen 1 hr 16 min 3 s ago on #wowace |
| 00:22.53 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:23.40 | sb | ZealotOnAStick: invalid tag error on aloft? :P |
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| 00:23.46 | ZealotOnAStick | yes. |
| 00:23.54 | ZealotOnAStick | I reverted to aug 2nd version. |
| 00:24.07 | ZealotOnAStick | but wanted to make sure he was aware of it. |
| 00:24.57 | sb | uhm |
| 00:25.01 | sb | Changed HealthPercent, ManaPercent to HealthFraction, ManaFraction for the change to :Percent in TagCompiler |
| 00:25.12 | sb | you have to change health tag from healthpercent to healthfraction :p |
| 00:26.26 | baer_ | good night all. |
| 00:26.43 | Chompers | leveling a mage, should i take permafrost or frostbite first? |
| 00:26.45 | buu | Are there any recommendations for plugins to display stats for a fight or an instance run, with lots of break downs? Is swstats the only useful option? |
| 00:27.01 | vputz | Hm, trying a commit with a more useful description; let's see if vim cooperates. And buu, SWStats is the best I've found, but I wouldn't mind better. |
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| 00:27.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:27.10 | CIA-23 | 03vputz * r45827 10Casualty/ (Casualty.toc libs/): |
| 00:27.10 | CIA-23 | Casualty: |
| 00:27.10 | CIA-23 | - Initial import complete. Casualty monitors for friendly deaths and announces |
| 00:27.10 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.10 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.20 | vputz | There we go, that's at least descriptive. |
| 00:27.35 | vputz | Now for the inevitable bugs I've missed. |
| 00:29.21 | Arrowmaster | something is seriously wrong with this raid makeup, of the 3 druids theres only 1 tree but 2 owls |
| 00:30.18 | Gagorian- | Owls ftw |
| 00:30.29 | Gagorian- | We had 6 druids today :l |
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| 00:32.39 | Pkekyo | WTB FLUFFY BOOMKINS |
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| 00:35.10 | Wobwork | Is boomkin viable for levelling? |
| 00:35.25 | Wobwork | cause I might be starting a drood |
| 00:35.41 | Arrowmaster | i know somebody that leveled to 50 as balance |
| 00:35.43 | Wobwork | and wondering if balance is any good for getting up |
| 00:35.43 | Keias | Its not too bad from what I've seen |
| 00:35.51 | Keias | Our first 70 druid was oomkin all the way |
| 00:36.05 | Dustwhisper- | ckknight i noticed |
| 00:36.08 | Keias | If you have a mage friend to bum water off of, it's not too bad |
| 00:36.11 | Dustwhisper- | it doesnt register my casts at all |
| 00:38.34 | ckknight | it does for casts that have the "Guy begins to cast..." |
| 00:38.57 | vputz | Oooo... Arrowmaster, thanks for the SinkLib reference; looks reasonably self-explanatory and adds a lot of capability; I'll be switching to that after a few experiments, I think. |
| 00:39.50 | Dustwhisper- | hmm |
| 00:39.51 | Dustwhisper- | okay |
| 00:40.00 | Dustwhisper- | so i can't actually tell every single spellcast people does, when it starts |
| 00:40.12 | Dustwhisper- | without actually doing calculations and that requires knowing their specs |
| 00:40.12 | Dustwhisper- | s |
| 00:40.17 | Dustwhisper- | so that's sadface |
| 00:40.21 | NeoTron | IMHO boomkin is not good for leveling due to downtime |
| 00:40.30 | NeoTron | I only tried it in the 30s but it was significantly slower than feral |
| 00:40.45 | NeoTron | come outlands I'm sure it's a lot more viable since you pick up more appropriate gear |
| 00:43.29 | Dustwhisper- | Oh well |
| 00:43.32 | Dustwhisper- | ill just wait for 2.4 or whenever |
| 00:43.38 | Dustwhisper- | for that event based combatlog and hope they fix cast |
| 00:44.06 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 00:44.08 | ckknight | they won't |
| 00:44.08 | Diao | hmm |
| 00:44.09 | ckknight | trust me |
| 00:44.12 | Diao | is getinline a non-working addon |
| 00:44.25 | Diao | i just dled it to test it out and i get 2 errors upon login :( |
| 00:45.30 | Dustwhisper- | WWS should add a deathlog to members that die |
| 00:45.34 | Dustwhisper- | like the recount one |
| 00:46.45 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began | check out #wowace-cia for realtime commit log |
| 00:47.31 | Cyrez | <3 <3 <3 |
| 00:47.38 | ulic | does that mean cia is only in that channel now? |
| 00:47.48 | ckknight | no |
| 00:47.50 | ckknight | just in both |
| 00:47.53 | ulic | ah, ok |
| 00:47.59 | ckknight | if you want nothing but CIA, go to #wowace-cia |
| 00:48.04 | ckknight | it's Cyrez's pet project |
| 00:48.09 | Cyrez | :) |
| 00:48.16 | ulic | 10-4, sounds like a good plan |
| 00:49.22 | Cyrez | But addon devs can say stuff if they really HAVE to, like, "That was drycoded so please don't shoot me." ;) |
| 00:50.01 | Cyrez | Right now, ckk is the only other person that can speak in there besides me. |
| 00:50.07 | Cyrez | But I trust him. <3 |
| 00:50.56 | Dustwhisper- | i think he's a gypsy |
| 00:50.58 | Dustwhisper- | so dont be so sure |
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| 00:57.28 | CIA-23 | 03ktrigger * r45828 10Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 00:57.28 | CIA-23 | Numen: |
| 00:57.28 | CIA-23 | - Added code to cancel Numen for non-shaman classes. |
| 00:57.33 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45829 10SimpleMD/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 00:57.33 | CIA-23 | SimpleMD: |
| 00:57.33 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 01:06.57 | CIA-23 | 03grayhoof * r45830 10sct/ (sct.lua sct_animation.lua): |
| 01:06.57 | CIA-23 | sct: |
| 01:06.57 | CIA-23 | - Moved Icon positions into frames |
| 01:06.57 | CIA-23 | - Added new Inner and Outer icon positions |
| 01:06.57 | CIA-23 | - Removed Killing Blow name |
| 01:06.58 | CIA-23 | - Fixed self heals to work as before (showing skill) |
| 01:07.11 | CIA-23 | 03grayhoof * r45831 10sct_options/ (localization.lua options.lua options.xml options_setup.lua): |
| 01:07.11 | CIA-23 | sct_options: |
| 01:07.11 | CIA-23 | - Moved Icon positions into frames |
| 01:07.11 | CIA-23 | - Added new Inner and Outer icon positions |
| 01:07.13 | CIA-23 | - Removed Killing Blow name |
| 01:07.14 | CIA-23 | - Fixed self heals to work as before (showing skill) |
| 01:07.50 | CIA-23 | 03grayhoof * r45832 10sctd/sctd.lua: |
| 01:07.50 | CIA-23 | sctd: |
| 01:07.50 | CIA-23 | - Moved Icon positions into frames |
| 01:08.03 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r45833 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: |
| 01:08.03 | CIA-23 | ItemBonusLib : |
| 01:08.03 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.05 | CIA-23 | 03grayhoof * r45834 10sctd_options/ (localization.lua options.lua options.xml): |
| 01:08.05 | CIA-23 | sctd_options: |
| 01:08.05 | CIA-23 | - Moved Icon positions into frames |
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| 01:10.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 01:11.18 | Cyrez | #wowace-cia for realtime commit logs without the fluff. ;-) |
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| 01:12.22 | Xuerian | Yeah. |
| 01:12.30 | vputz | Hmm; toying with Sinklib and when it goes through SCT, I don't get the option to choose the area, which means it always just gives me a fixed messagebox--and while I see blizzard's combat text in the source code as a possible option, it's not coming up in my addon's "output" options. Any tutorial out there for SinkLib? Docs seem short. |
| 01:12.42 | Xuerian | go to #wowace-cia: The real stuff, sans Cyrez. |
| 01:13.27 | CIA-23 | 03gagorian * r45835 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua): |
| 01:13.28 | CIA-23 | DrDamage: |
| 01:13.28 | CIA-23 | - Load settings earlier |
| 01:13.40 | CIA-23 | ow |
| 01:13.50 | Cyrez | I thought of that, ckknight, lol. |
| 01:13.57 | ckknight | bah |
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| 01:16.48 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r45836 10BigWigs_AQ40/ (BugFamily.lua Sartura.lua): BigWigs_AQ40: Updated localization koKR |
| 01:19.48 | RogueShadow | well, i can't complain about my visa check card, has decent security. Somebody 3 states away tried to use a copy of my card or something, and they said "wait, let's call and ask, block the card from use" |
| 01:20.14 | Cyrez | Pwned. |
| 01:20.36 | RogueShadow | I wonder how they got it tho. |
| 01:20.53 | RogueShadow | I never have visitors, and my wallet is always on me or on my desk. |
| 01:21.01 | RogueShadow | and i'm not missing it |
| 01:21.54 | AnduinLothar | that happened to me when someone in florida tried to put $2k+ on my card. It musta been hacked from some internet site i bought something on. |
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| 01:22.51 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45837 10SharedMedia/ (. SharedMedia.toc embeds.xml): SharedMedia: use embeds.xml |
| 01:22.55 | CIA-23 | 03samuelcup * r45838 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.toc locales/zhCN.lua): WitchHunt: add zhCN locale |
| 01:22.58 | RogueShadow | could be. |
| 01:23.08 | Dustwhisper- | quite easy to grab CC info from your computer |
| 01:23.13 | Dustwhisper- | especially if you get a trojan on it |
| 01:23.16 | RogueShadow | the last time I used it online before that, I used it twice on amazon, but I didn't retype it, it was already there. |
| 01:23.19 | RogueShadow | So yeah.. not sure about that |
| 01:23.24 | AnduinLothar | i have a mac |
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| 01:23.49 | Cyrez | Rootkit FTL. >< |
| 01:23.51 | RogueShadow | aw well, it wouldn't be the first time I had my card re-issued |
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| 01:24.18 | RogueShadow | I bought something from a site that I later seriously questioned it's credibility, so I stopped payment and go ta new card. |
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| 01:25.18 | Cyrez | My dad's has some service that lets him get temporary numbers. |
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| 01:25.40 | RogueShadow | that's pretty cool |
| 01:25.55 | Cyrez | Perfect for, "It's free, we just need your credit card for verification purposes..." |
| 01:26.09 | RogueShadow | o boy |
| 01:26.18 | RogueShadow | there's a lot of things like that. |
| 01:26.27 | RogueShadow | Free subscription, we just need your credit card info. |
| 01:26.39 | RogueShadow | and if you should happen to forget to unsubscribe after the first month, we charge you. We know you will forget! |
| 01:27.04 | rubik | hmm.. what's this "!!!Tag Error!!!" on Aloft health bar? |
| 01:27.51 | Cyrez | It's in the #wowace channel topic. >< |
| 01:27.59 | RogueShadow | are there any addon's that let you change your key bindings for your action bars really really easy, and fast. |
| 01:28.16 | ckknight | Cyrez: don't push too hard |
| 01:28.24 | Dustwhisper- | RogueShadow just about any like bartender ? |
| 01:28.29 | Dustwhisper- | just go into system menu | key bindings |
| 01:28.42 | RogueShadow | Like, I like to move my spells around on my actionbar, then swap the bindings also. And I always have to open up that big window, figure out which buton is which then rebind. |
| 01:28.46 | Cyrez | Sorry, I just don't like being taken for a fool. Drives me insane. |
| 01:28.49 | Cyrez | >< |
| 01:29.06 | Cyrez | Had enough of that with women IRL. |
| 01:29.25 | RogueShadow | *sigh* Yeah, I can do it there, but it still takes forever to figure out which button it is i'm trying to rebind, if it's shaped wierd especially, my bar that is. |
| 01:29.48 | RogueShadow | curse me for ever wanting my buttons arranged AND hotkeyed a certain way. |
| 01:29.54 | Cyrez | Some join and part without bothering to wait for an actual commit. |
| 01:30.20 | Cyrez | Which defeats the whole point of coming in there in the first place. |
| 01:30.58 | NeoTron | RogueShadow: out of curiosity, ever used the card in a restaurant or store? |
| 01:31.22 | NeoTron | those are really more likely sources of stolen cards (especially restaurants where the card leaves your sight for an unspecified period of time) |
| 01:31.50 | vithos | agh, atlasloot package keeps failing it :( i keep having to reinstall the modules in wau |
| 01:31.52 | Cyrez | There's these things about the size of a pager. |
| 01:31.53 | rubik | did something change with healthPercent tag? |
| 01:32.04 | NeoTron | happened to my wife with a card she'd never used online |
| 01:33.23 | Dustwhisper- | how do I grab a players health and mana ? (if he's in a raid with me that is) |
| 01:34.24 | Cyrez | ckknight: Let me noe if anybody should be added to the list for autoop or autovoice and I'll take care of it as soon as I'm able. |
| 01:34.39 | ckknight | I'd say Kaelten |
| 01:35.22 | Cyrez | Done. |
| 01:35.22 | RogueShadow | NeoTron: Hmm. If it happened, they waited a long time to try it out. |
| 01:37.20 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45839 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 7 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Item/Loot update |
| 01:37.44 | Pkekyo | the 3.30am pizza...gotta love it |
| 01:38.14 | Cyrez | ^ |
| 01:38.16 | Funkeh` | shut up, make me hungry :< |
| 01:38.29 | AnduinLothar | mmm tacos |
| 01:38.39 | Dustwhisper- | made french fries =D |
| 01:38.59 | Pkekyo | geif french fries |
| 01:39.00 | rubik | how did the "healthPercent" tag break today? what's the new tag for it? |
| 01:40.09 | AnduinLothar | ckknight: did u make it to blizzcon? |
| 01:40.24 | ckknight | no |
| 01:40.35 | ckknight | I have no real way of paying for the trip |
| 01:40.37 | AnduinLothar | ahh, bummer |
| 01:40.45 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45840 10DeuceCommander/ (. DeuceCommander.toc embeds.xml): DeuceCommander: use embeds.xml |
| 01:40.53 | sb | something is wrong with WAU |
| 01:41.02 | AnduinLothar | thought i heard you were going |
| 01:41.05 | sb | Parrot - Updated to rev WITH Externals 45807.2 <-- but externals is disabled :/ |
| 01:41.41 | Funkeh` | It will install wiht externals if it was originally installed that way |
| 01:41.44 | ckknight | nope, never said that |
| 01:42.01 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: did you go? |
| 01:42.07 | AnduinLothar | yeah |
| 01:42.08 | Funkeh` | he won a fucking raffle |
| 01:42.11 | Funkeh` | asshole |
| 01:42.14 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 01:42.45 | AnduinLothar | i was plannign on buyign a ticket, but paypal was it's usual slow ass and i didn't get the money to my accoutn before they sold out |
| 01:42.57 | AnduinLothar | thankfully i won a wowi ticket |
| 01:43.25 | AnduinLothar | http://ctscreens.net/8379 |
| 01:43.59 | ckknight | I never entered the wowi raffle |
| 01:44.05 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 01:44.23 | AnduinLothar | well if you couldn't have afforded the trip it wouldn't have helped |
| 01:44.37 | Cyrez | I don't bother entering contests. I never win anything worthy of attention. |
| 01:44.37 | AnduinLothar | i live 20min away tho |
| 01:44.48 | ckknight | hrm, I expected Kaelten to be skinny for some reason |
| 01:45.05 | ckknight | also, Cogwheel isn't a gnome - also creepy |
| 01:45.10 | AnduinLothar | i still spent $100 on food, parking and gas that weekend |
| 01:45.59 | AnduinLothar | i love how the left side is all squished together and i have elbo room, lol |
| 01:46.04 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar somehow looks about like I'd expect him to... |
| 01:46.14 | Xuerian | Not too hard to morph cog into a gnome. |
| 01:46.24 | Funkeh` | cairenn is hot :X |
| 01:46.34 | ckknight | Cairenn looks mopey |
| 01:46.38 | Cyrez | Xuerian: Photoshop FTW. |
| 01:46.44 | AnduinLothar | she didn't want to be in the pic |
| 01:47.01 | Xuerian | Cyrez: Indeed! |
| 01:47.08 | AnduinLothar | they harassed her till she did |
| 01:47.16 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:49.08 | Amadeo | I don't see hot either, but to each their own :P |
| 01:49.16 | Pkekyo | anyone know the model name of the current US standard issue gas masks? |
| 01:49.24 | Xuerian | Well, ck is right, mopey >.o |
| 01:49.26 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 01:49.31 | Amadeo | I figured Slouken was older |
| 01:49.35 | Xuerian | That doesn't sound at ALL related, Pkekyo. |
| 01:49.35 | RogueShadow | that's pretty cool |
| 01:49.38 | AnduinLothar | more cheerful here: http://ctscreens.net/8381 |
| 01:49.39 | ckknight | I figured Slouken was skinnier |
| 01:49.43 | ckknight | why is everyone tubby? |
| 01:49.55 | Pkekyo | Xuerian: not related to any ongoing discussion, no.... |
| 01:49.58 | Funkeh` | everyone? |
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| 01:50.01 | NM|Xinhuan | can someone explain how the new <ModifiedClick> stuff works next patch? |
| 01:50.07 | Amadeo | lol |
| 01:50.08 | Xuerian | Kael look slightly smashed |
| 01:50.14 | Funkeh` | seen mental/kat skinny and skinnier ^^ |
| 01:50.27 | Pkekyo | nobody knows the model name of it? :< |
| 01:51.06 | Cyrez | If I get really depressed and bored, I might hack a script to periodically update the #wowace-cia channel topic with the current revision number. |
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| 01:51.07 | Funkeh` | and seriously |
| 01:51.11 | Funkeh` | whats up wiht teh flip flops |
| 01:51.17 | ckknight | part of me is glad I didn't go ... I'm a bit too prone to fisticuffs |
| 01:51.39 | Amadeo | Turn it up in the headphones! |
| 01:51.44 | AnduinLothar | it's cali. everyone wears flipflops |
| 01:52.01 | Litvan | flipflops were so 80's |
| 01:52.06 | ckknight | Xuerian: mmm... yea |
| 01:52.10 | ckknight | I used to box in high school |
| 01:52.17 | Cyrez | I only where flipflops when it's too much effort to put shoes on. |
| 01:52.20 | AnduinLothar | well, it's usually over 80 degrees in the summer.. |
| 01:52.20 | Dustwhisper- | hmm if I want to add a tooltip to a texture do I have to create a frame for that texture for the SetScript to work ? |
| 01:52.23 | Cyrez | Which is quite often. |
| 01:52.30 | Cyrez | Living in Cali has nothing to do with it. |
| 01:52.35 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: it's 90 degrees here and 100% humidity |
| 01:52.36 | Cyrez | For me, anyway, lol. |
| 01:52.38 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:52.40 | Funkeh` | I need to work out away to get there next year |
| 01:52.46 | ckknight | yes, Dustwhisper- |
| 01:52.46 | Funkeh` | Long way from britain :X |
| 01:52.59 | Dustwhisper- | hmm |
| 01:53.02 | Dustwhisper- | that's gonna be expensive |
| 01:53.11 | Dustwhisper- | drawing 2000 frames meh |
| 01:53.14 | AnduinLothar | i wear flip flops all the time unelss i have to wear dress shoes or my feet are in danger of injury |
| 01:53.22 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:53.28 | Xuerian | Can't stand the string between my toes >.o |
| 01:53.42 | AnduinLothar | i've even been known to wear them in the rain |
| 01:53.52 | Cyrez | ^ |
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| 01:53.57 | Cyrez | I second that, lol. |
| 01:53.57 | ckknight | Xuerian: ugh, can't stand that either |
| 01:54.03 | AnduinLothar | and it's a hell of a lot cheeper than replacing vans every few years |
| 01:54.11 | Xuerian | Now, I wear normal sandals when the ice breaks till it closes again |
| 01:54.13 | ckknight | in Hawaii, flip-flops are called "slippers" |
| 01:54.14 | Litvan | that string between the toes.. yeah that one irks me too... feels too bizarre to use em |
| 01:54.18 | ckknight | nobody knows what flip-flops are here |
| 01:54.20 | Herio | hmm |
| 01:54.29 | Cyrez | Flipflops and shorts and a t-shirt, even if it's raining. |
| 01:54.30 | Dustwhisper- | flipflops rock =) |
| 01:54.33 | Herio | dogtag is telling me that NumTargetting is an unknown tag |
| 01:54.44 | Amadeo | I find that flip-flops/sandals make my feet hotter than shoes to |
| 01:54.45 | Amadeo | do |
| 01:55.10 | ckknight | I either wear shoes, or preferably, barefoot |
| 01:55.16 | ckknight | my feet need to breathe |
| 01:55.24 | ckknight | Herio: NumTargeting, then |
| 01:55.28 | AnduinLothar | i'm so used to wearing flip flops that when i walk barefoot my big toe clenches with the one next to it when i step, even tho there's nothing between them |
| 01:55.30 | ckknight | Herio: I fixed the spelling |
| 01:55.36 | Herio | oh |
| 01:55.37 | Herio | thanks |
| 01:55.59 | Herio | sorry, I just updated about 30 mins ago, and I didn't see that error on the source hehe |
| 01:56.25 | Herio | waot |
| 01:56.27 | Herio | wait |
| 01:56.31 | Herio | I see, nevermind |
| 01:58.03 | Pkekyo | no US army peeps here? |
| 01:58.48 | Funkeh` | 2.2 this week right? |
| 01:59.03 | ckknight | Funkeh`: no. |
| 01:59.23 | Funkeh` | need to fucking hurry up and release it so we can get to 2.4 |
| 01:59.45 | buu | Is 2.2 Zul? |
| 01:59.55 | Funkeh` | no |
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| 02:01.53 | Cyrez | I still can't believe my little toy is just one long line of code, lol. |
| 02:02.07 | Xuerian | Source naou. |
| 02:02.11 | CIA-23 | 03nemes * r45841 10NBuffBars/ (8 files in 3 dirs): NBuffBars: fix clickcasting macro, add Bindings.xml, add colour selection, add background, remove PaintChipsLib, fix candybar resetting, add example data |
| 02:03.27 | Cyrez | Most of it's just one huge IF-THEN making sure CIA-xx is the real CIA-xx, and that some meanie didn't just kick it. |
| 02:06.27 | RaydenUnicyclist | authentication server down? |
| 02:07.26 | NM|Xinhuan | seems like it |
| 02:07.30 | RaydenUnicyclist | dangit |
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| 02:13.24 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 02:13.26 | Wobwork | flipflips |
| 02:13.28 | Wobwork | er flops |
| 02:13.39 | Wobwork | not that we call them that |
| 02:14.13 | Wobwork | but the americans always look at us strangely when we name them |
| 02:14.36 | jme | argh |
| 02:14.41 | ckknight | name them? |
| 02:14.50 | jme | just got back and saw the auth server was down in here, tried to log in and it is so :( |
| 02:14.51 | Wobwork | Well, we call them thongs =P |
| 02:15.00 | break19 | lol |
| 02:15.12 | ckknight | oh, yea, they're occasionally called that |
| 02:15.18 | ckknight | except that thongs also mean something else |
| 02:15.22 | Wobwork | The kiwis call them Jandles |
| 02:15.29 | Wobwork | well, that's more the singular |
| 02:15.33 | Wobwork | You wear a thong |
| 02:15.38 | Wobwork | or you wear thongs |
| 02:15.49 | Wobwork | For us, it's fairly obvious which is which =) |
| 02:16.26 | break19 | Wobwork: however.. "i bought my dad some thongs" makes ya go "hmm?" |
| 02:16.29 | ckknight | one goes up the buttcrack |
| 02:16.36 | jme | p0dx$b5jft |
| 02:16.38 | Wobwork | oddly enough, a pair of thongs... |
| 02:16.40 | jme | ooooooooops |
| 02:16.59 | break19 | lol |
| 02:17.01 | *** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@dsl027-181-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 02:17.06 | Wobwork | we don't know your login name anyway =) |
| 02:17.10 | Wobwork | unless it's jme =P |
| 02:17.12 | jme | yeah i know |
| 02:17.14 | jme | and it isn't |
| 02:17.25 | break19 | damn.. and I thought *my* password was an obfuscated mess... |
| 02:17.50 | Amadeo | needs a capital letter somewhere |
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| 02:18.01 | jme | so like |
| 02:18.13 | jme | disregard what i just typed please and delete all your logs |
| 02:18.17 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 02:18.21 | Wobwork | purl keeps all the logs |
| 02:18.28 | Wobwork | ONLINE |
| 02:18.29 | jme | i know :( |
| 02:18.31 | Wobwork | FOREVER |
| 02:18.33 | jme | what |
| 02:18.34 | jme | haha |
| 02:18.47 | Wobwork | next time, make your password with a space in front =) |
| 02:18.49 | Wobwork | Just in case |
| 02:18.52 | jme | sure |
| 02:19.30 | Wobwork | break19: If you said that, I'd still think of the footwear first =) |
| 02:19.36 | Cyrez | My IRC passwords are so complicated that I don't remember them. |
| 02:19.50 | jme | Cyrez: mine was uh actually pretty close to the one i just pasted |
| 02:19.53 | jme | or typed |
| 02:20.05 | jme | basically i didn't realize i was alt tabbed to my irc terminal on my other monitor when i tried to log in wow |
| 02:20.21 | jme | as in the irc terminal had focus still |
| 02:20.27 | Cyrez | Oopstastic. |
| 02:21.17 | break19 | Wobwork: i'd go "uhhh .. i hope you dont mean 'draws'" |
| 02:22.18 | break19 | btw.. draws is just the pronunciation of drawers.. ie: skivvies/undies/whatever else ya wanna call em. |
| 02:22.19 | Pkekyo | AXEMURDER WITH PAPERCLIP |
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| 02:25.16 | Fisker- | lol @ steam |
| 02:25.49 | RogueShadow | mmm. "%^H&G#@H@#4643^N#^435b54b5435b#$%$#^B#@!QQ" should be a strong password right? |
| 02:25.52 | Wobwork | pants! |
| 02:26.03 | Wobwork | RogueShadow: Somewhat |
| 02:26.12 | Wobwork | except chances are in most places it'd get truncated |
| 02:26.15 | Wobwork | SO LESS SAFE |
| 02:26.25 | RogueShadow | Wobwork: Those places are insecure :p |
| 02:26.39 | Wobwork | s'true |
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| 02:26.41 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 02:26.48 | Antiarc | Are the auth servers down for anyone else? |
| 02:26.56 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Yep. |
| 02:26.57 | dylanm | Antiarc: Yeah they are for me... |
| 02:26.58 | Antiarc | Dammit. |
| 02:27.02 | Antiarc | Middle of a Gruul kill too |
| 02:27.08 | vithos | Yes |
| 02:27.11 | vithos | every raid time. |
| 02:27.38 | vithos | hyjal notsoez when you can't log in |
| 02:27.58 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/lawlsteam.jpg |
| 02:27.58 | Fisker- | :D |
| 02:28.10 | Fisker- | i wonder what warden says |
| 02:28.36 | vithos | more like https://vith.mine.nu/steam.jpg |
| 02:28.46 | Wobwork | Warden is probably whispering your login details to the steam server to broadcast |
| 02:28.57 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45842 10GridStatusHotStack/GridStatusHotStack.lua: |
| 02:28.57 | CIA-23 | GridStatusHotStack: |
| 02:28.57 | CIA-23 | - Fixed localization koKR |
| 02:28.57 | Fisker- | yarr |
| 02:29.19 | jme | hah |
| 02:29.33 | jme | just like purl is whispering my password to gold farmers worldwide |
| 02:29.56 | Antiarc | WoW forums are down too |
| 02:30.00 | Antiarc | Someone tripped over a cable |
| 02:30.08 | jme | i blame fred |
| 02:30.17 | vithos | they probably shut them down so people couldn't complain about the auth servers being down. |
| 02:30.17 | RaydenUnicyclist | auth servers need to come back up |
| 02:30.23 | jme | fred was the IT tech at my uni that we always blame for outages |
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| 02:30.28 | RaydenUnicyclist | at least my friend's game crashed so now he is out too :D |
| 02:31.49 | jme | Error! Server too busy |
| 02:31.50 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45843 10GridStatusLifebloom/GridStatusLifebloom.lua: GridStatusLifebloom - Fixed localization koKR(fix ANSII format to UTF8 ) |
| 02:31.56 | jme | i can't even get in to change my password :X |
| 02:33.10 | Antiarc | Pings to the auth servers time out |
| 02:33.12 | Antiarc | Someone tripped on a cable |
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| 02:37.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Huh, BBEdit 8.7 adds built in Lua Support. |
| 02:40.36 | Antiarc | ARGH |
| 02:40.41 | Antiarc | DIAF AUTHENTICATING |
| 02:41.16 | ckknight | for vanilla WoW? |
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| 02:41.24 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 02:41.28 | ckknight | I'm on :-P |
| 02:41.28 | Antiarc | It is le borked |
| 02:41.34 | Antiarc | Authentication servers are down |
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| 02:41.39 | Antiarc | Can't even ping them |
| 02:42.42 | ckknight | working on LibJokerComm-1.0... |
| 02:42.48 | ckknight | so much simpler than AceComm-2.0 |
| 02:43.20 | Jaxon | Thats what we need, library names that get longer and longer and longe.r |
| 02:43.33 | ckknight | it'll actually end up being LibAceComm-3.0 |
| 02:44.01 | ckknight | once the whole Ace3 thing goes live, I'll be recommending libraries start with "Lib" |
| 02:44.32 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 02:44.39 | Funkeh` | thats disgusting |
| 02:44.43 | Funkeh` | starting with Lib |
| 02:45.01 | ckknight | howso |
| 02:45.06 | Funkeh` | Its jsut ugly |
| 02:45.06 | ckknight | it solves a lot of issues |
| 02:45.10 | Parnic | disgusting? that's clear and descriptive |
| 02:45.12 | Funkeh` | corrupts the name in a way |
| 02:45.17 | ckknight | ...it's how every *nix library is |
| 02:45.18 | Funkeh` | what issues? |
| 02:45.18 | Parnic | i.e. self-documenting, i.e. easy to recognize and separate |
| 02:45.27 | ckknight | that's one issue that's solved ^--- |
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| 02:45.38 | ckknight | also, it forces unique namespacing |
| 02:45.41 | ckknight | but it's mostly for clarity |
| 02:45.46 | ckknight | ParserLib vs. Parser-3.0 |
| 02:45.56 | ckknight | it's a lot easier to tell apart LibParser-1.1 and LibParser-3.0 |
| 02:45.59 | Antiarc | libstdc++ |
| 02:46.01 | Antiarc | See |
| 02:46.02 | ckknight | and also know that they're libs |
| 02:46.02 | Antiarc | It works |
| 02:46.10 | ckknight | also, Parser-3.0, is that a lib? who knows! |
| 02:46.21 | Funkeh` | Read the code? |
| 02:46.26 | ckknight | ... |
| 02:46.26 | ckknight | no |
| 02:46.31 | ckknight | users don't read code |
| 02:46.36 | Funkeh` | So? |
| 02:46.38 | ckknight | and lots of devs don't either |
| 02:46.43 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:46.52 | Dustwhisper- | Question, what lib does all the mods use that shares the different type of bars, class colours etc |
| 02:46.53 | break19 | also means end-users know what are libs.. so they wont say "wonder what this addon does" and then complain when it does nothing. |
| 02:47.00 | ckknight | Dustwhisper-: SharedMediaLib |
| 02:47.04 | Dustwhisper- | Thank you |
| 02:47.06 | ckknight | right, break19 |
| 02:47.11 | ckknight | they'll know that it's a lib |
| 02:47.34 | Funkeh` | Right, its not clear enough in the TOC and addons menu yeah? |
| 02:47.38 | ckknight | also, it'd line things up on the svn and everything a lot nicer |
| 02:47.42 | ckknight | it's not, Funkeh` |
| 02:47.45 | dylanm | They definitely don't read the toc. |
| 02:48.00 | Funkeh` | True abotut he svn |
| 02:48.04 | ckknight | in your addons folder, things will be a lot simpler if you have a whole bunch of Lib* folders |
| 02:48.06 | Funkeh` | about the* |
| 02:48.23 | Funkeh` | I couldn't care less but whatever :p |
| 02:48.33 | Amadeo | I'm trying to figure out why Funkeh` is even complaining :P |
| 02:48.37 | ckknight | me too... |
| 02:48.50 | break19 | cuz he can? lol |
| 02:48.54 | dylanm | libxml, libjpeg, etc etc |
| 02:48.57 | Funkeh` | cause |
| 02:49.01 | Chompers | it's hard to distinguish libs from addons while looking at the /addons folde |
| 02:49.02 | Chompers | r |
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| 02:49.10 | dylanm | I think it's a fine idea. |
| 02:49.14 | Chompers | having lib at the front helps |
| 02:49.15 | ckknight | basically, previously: AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"). in the future: Ace("LibAceEvent-3.0") |
| 02:49.27 | ckknight | in the code, at least |
| 02:49.58 | Funkeh` | mkay |
| 02:50.14 | ckknight | I don't know why the complaining is there... |
| 02:50.19 | break19 | i hoping that we also cut down on the billions of different libs that likely get used by 1 addon... :p |
| 02:50.20 | dylanm | I don't know about having Ace as a function name... that seems a bit odd. |
| 02:50.31 | ckknight | dylanm: it's actually a table |
| 02:50.40 | ckknight | Ace:NewLibrary("LibAceEvent-3.0", 50) |
| 02:50.53 | ckknight | Ace:NewAddon("MyFunkyAddon", "LibAceEvent-3.0") |
| 02:51.05 | dylanm | Now that I like. |
| 02:51.12 | ckknight | Ace("LibAceEvent-3.0") => Ace:GetLibrary("LibAceEvent-3.0") |
| 02:51.13 | ckknight | same thing |
| 02:51.37 | ckknight | there's a bunch of other methods as well, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibJoker-1.0 |
| 02:51.41 | ckknight | feel free to take a look |
| 02:51.53 | etip | what's the 50, second parameter ? |
| 02:52.23 | dylanm | Version num |
| 02:52.43 | ckknight | etip: revision number for libraries |
| 02:52.44 | etip | so we can use whatever version we want ? |
| 02:52.53 | ckknight | yes, but I recommend using the SVN revision number |
| 02:53.02 | ckknight | "$Revision: 41234 $" |
| 02:53.09 | etip | right |
| 02:53.15 | break19 | my biggest beef with the libs is this: one author writes a nice addon with good functionality.. he then says "hey.. I should make most of the functionality a lib so other people can use it" only one problem.. no one does.. or, if they do.. it *replaces* the other addon... so there's no "re-used" code.. which imho is the main benefit of the libs |
| 02:53.18 | ckknight | it just has to increase with each new version |
| 02:53.23 | dylanm | Yeah definitely just have it be something automatically generated... that's probably a good idea for embedded stuff. |
| 02:53.46 | ckknight | dylanm: that's how it is now |
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| 02:53.51 | dylanm | break19: Have an example? |
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| 02:54.25 | break19 | graphlib - afaik, only recount uses it |
| 02:54.29 | dylanm | Like Threat-1.0 is likely a lot of functionality contained in one lib but the value of having that used in other addons is pretty clear. |
| 02:54.49 | kergoth | break19, afaik omen is going to be using it for graphs of threat, and assessment may be using it too |
| 02:54.57 | kergoth | and i know cryect's proof of concept route recorder used it |
| 02:54.59 | kergoth | thats a bad example. |
| 02:55.04 | kergoth | its obviously something generally useful |
| 02:55.09 | dylanm | That seems like a good abstraction. I can imagine other addons wanting to do that. |
| 02:55.18 | Thrae | Threat-1.0 actually has a good reason to remain a lib, as using it standalone, even without Omen/Assessment/etc. will still allow you to report threat to other players I believe |
| 02:55.21 | kergoth | there are a number of cases of what you describe, but graphlib isnt it |
| 02:55.29 | break19 | kergoth: yea.. but see... here's the thing.. theres no code-sharing.. |
| 02:55.34 | kergoth | hm? |
| 02:55.49 | break19 | generally.. if you have recount.. you wont use assessment, and vice-versa |
| 02:55.52 | kergoth | i dont know what you mean. if i graph something with graphlib, i'm using his code to do it. |
| 02:55.57 | kergoth | well, i use recount and omen. |
| 02:56.10 | break19 | <- violation and omen |
| 02:56.13 | kergoth | pick an example with a basis in reality, thanks. graphing isnt something thatd only be used in one addon |
| 02:56.14 | dylanm | break19: I don't think that you make libraries for users. You make them for developers. |
| 02:56.43 | Thrae | break19: Code sharing is from open source + sane license to start with |
| 02:56.55 | Fisker- | oh hai |
| 02:57.08 | break19 | kergoth, dylanm: my point wasnt about that.. it was about the so-called speedup from having multiple addons using shared libs... |
| 02:57.18 | dylanm | Lord knows I don't want to write my own threat calculator. |
| 02:57.28 | kergoth | if you're arguing against making something a lib, pick something thats not useful as a lib. |
| 02:57.33 | kergoth | not something obviously general purpose |
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| 02:57.40 | Xuerian | Pick mine :D |
| 02:57.43 | dylanm | break19: Well that's a separate issue. That's users being silly. |
| 02:57.47 | ckknight | like LibMonkey-1.0? |
| 02:57.49 | break19 | threatlib is a good lib. |
| 02:57.56 | Xuerian | AnchorsAway :X |
| 02:57.58 | ckknight | Ace("LibMonkey-1.0"):FlingPoo() |
| 02:58.05 | Xuerian | XD |
| 02:58.12 | dylanm | We need LibMothra |
| 02:58.13 | break19 | OneStorage. |
| 02:58.15 | kergoth | lets see, in svn trunk, Recount, Protractor, FollowMe, VanasKoS, use graphlib |
| 02:58.15 | ckknight | it's my typical example case |
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| 02:59.38 | break19 | and Furious-2.1 |
| 03:00.40 | dylanm | LibMothra:DestroyTokyo{violently=true} |
| 03:00.51 | Kirkburn | I want to see LibLib |
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| 03:01.49 | break19 | so I picked a bad original example.. doesnt mean my point isnt valid :) |
| 03:02.13 | Xuerian | Kirkburn: Isn't that sortof what AceLibrary is, currently? |
| 03:02.15 | ckknight | Kirkburn: that's essentially Ace |
| 03:02.55 | Kirkburn | Well, LibLibLib you |
| 03:03.00 | break19 | oh.. and I dunno if anything uses this lib or not.. but I sure as hell wouldnt want to put in MY stuff.. MiniButtLib... *aroo??* |
| 03:03.03 | jme | piece of crap |
| 03:03.06 | jme | no arena for me tonight |
| 03:03.27 | Xuerian | break19: "MiniButtonLib" |
| 03:03.45 | break19 | Xuerian: yea.. but thats not what its called on files.* |
| 03:03.52 | Xuerian | If ju read da deskwiption, it wood tells ju dat iz for meeeni-map butt-ons. >_> |
| 03:03.55 | Fisker- | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/valve <-that's pretty terrible |
| 03:04.44 | Kirkburn | 27.8 hrs, lol |
| 03:05.59 | Amadeo | what's that? Steam has a myspace now? heh |
| 03:06.08 | Kirkburn | 115 hours of HL2, wonder why the dev team were playing it |
| 03:06.19 | Kirkburn | Unless it counts Ep2 dev versions |
| 03:06.33 | break19 | heh |
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| 03:06.53 | break19 | Xuerian: I can read fine.. I just think it's a funny name :) |
| 03:07.18 | Xuerian | break19: I know. The joke was too tempting to shoot down though T.T |
| 03:07.25 | break19 | hehe |
| 03:07.45 | Kirkburn | Lol, love the image - https://steamcommunity.com/ |
| 03:08.07 | jme | i may have to reboot to windows and play vanguard |
| 03:08.07 | Fisker- | Amadeo pretty much |
| 03:08.08 | jme | :( |
| 03:08.13 | Fisker- | it's some kind of Xfire ripoff |
| 03:08.19 | Amadeo | that's ok, because Xfire sucks |
| 03:08.25 | Amadeo | it used to be good, before it turned into a bloat-fest |
| 03:08.28 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/lawlsteam.jpg |
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| 03:32.03 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i know you didnt make the change to aceevent for a frame for each addon for the profiler but did you leave an option in for that for debuging or not at all? |
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| 03:47.17 | ckknight | actually I did make that change |
| 03:47.25 | ckknight | in AceEvent-2.0, all addons have their own frame |
| 03:47.26 | ckknight | I think |
| 03:47.54 | jme | auth servers up yet? |
| 03:48.13 | jme | yay |
| 03:48.35 | Knaledge | hey karl |
| 03:48.39 | dylanm | Yesss. |
| 03:48.52 | Knaledge | was it you I was talking with about CritRecord and TopScoreFu and DepositBox, etc? |
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| 03:48.55 | CIA-23 | Numen: |
| 03:48.55 | CIA-23 | - Cleaned up the config a tad. |
| 03:48.55 | CIA-23 | - Adjusted the scope on some of the event functions. |
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| 03:49.42 | jme | heh |
| 03:49.47 | jme | my boots got DE'd tonight from chess |
| 03:49.51 | Herio | /target needs a way to specify exactness |
| 03:50.12 | Knaledge | Valve and Steam's biggest win is if/when they ever get steam multiplatform |
| 03:50.27 | KarlThePagan | Knaledge, yea |
| 03:50.28 | Knaledge | if Steam ever, EVER made it to Mac with most if not all the library intact |
| 03:50.31 | Knaledge | pff |
| 03:50.32 | KarlThePagan | i didn't have a chance yet |
| 03:50.42 | Knaledge | Ah ok thats cool I just couldn't rememver |
| 03:50.45 | Knaledge | no worries |
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| 04:27.02 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: |
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| 04:27.03 | CIA-23 | - Shadow Demon timer after Demon switch. |
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| 04:35.09 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/FUCKINGWIN.JPG lol |
| 04:35.38 | Kyahx | heh |
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| 04:37.19 | ckknight | cool, Fisker- |
| 04:37.48 | Fisker- | unfortunately Valve don't think it's as cool ;( |
| 04:37.50 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 04:38.00 | Fisker- | They don't want the browser visiting any valve-external links |
| 04:38.06 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:38.16 | Arrowmaster | how did you pull that off? |
| 04:38.25 | Fisker- | hosts of course |
| 04:38.31 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 04:38.48 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:39.11 | Arrowmaster | so steamcommunity.com points to wowhead.com for you? |
| 04:39.20 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 04:39.47 | Cyrez | ZOMGHAX!!!!112 |
| 04:39.48 | Fisker- | oh and it sends an alternate useragent so wowhead just loads a "You must have javascript enabled" page :( |
| 04:41.43 | Kirkburn | For a proper overlay prog - http://www.playxpert.com/ |
| 04:41.47 | Fisker- | i'm willing to bet "In b4 warden" though |
| 04:42.03 | Kirkburn | More specifically, http://mashable.com/2007/07/31/wikia-playxpert/ |
| 04:42.19 | Fisker- | hey i had a picture of wowwiki in mine too |
| 04:42.31 | ThomasSpear | is there any reason to NOT listen to an event if you might possibly need to use that event? |
| 04:44.43 | Fisker- | btw Killmore |
| 04:44.44 | Fisker- | Kirkburn |
| 04:44.51 | Fisker- | do you have access to access logs for wowwiki_ |
| 04:44.51 | Fisker- | ? |
| 04:45.33 | Speeddymon | example, i may need to listed to UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED (if the user has something like Cold Snap or Preparation), in order to properly terminate a cooldown's timer.. is there any reason to not just go ahead and listen to that event whether the person has one of those spells or not? |
| 04:46.08 | Speeddymon | listed=listen |
| 04:46.13 | Kirkburn | Access logs? |
| 04:46.21 | Kirkburn | (@ Fisker-) |
| 04:46.51 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 04:46.58 | Fisker- | like what ip accessed what and from what user agent |
| 04:48.51 | Kirkburn | Nope |
| 04:49.13 | Fisker- | you fail! |
| 04:49.17 | Fisker- | then i gotta do it myself |
| 04:49.22 | Kirkburn | Why do you wanna know? |
| 04:49.34 | Fisker- | i need to know what steam's useragent is |
| 04:49.34 | Fisker- | :P |
| 04:50.08 | ckknight | probably just IE :-P |
| 04:50.49 | Speeddymon | ... I guess there isnt any reason to not listen then.. |
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| 04:50.57 | Fisker- | mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE; Valve Steam GameOverlay;) |
| 04:50.58 | Fisker- | :P |
| 04:50.58 | Cyrez | I'm not motivated enough to figure that out, although I could. |
| 04:51.18 | Cyrez | Microsoft Virtual PC FTW. |
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| 05:00.32 | vithos | 23:42 < Fisker-> They don't want the browser visiting any valve-external links |
| 05:00.40 | vithos | Fisker-: CS servers have HTML MOTD's |
| 05:00.49 | vithos | if you weren't aware |
| 05:06.37 | Cryect | jme: I wish more av's were like this one http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7686/wowscrnshot080707010123fj1.jpg ended with every objective flagged alliance so horde got total of 61 honor at end game :-p |
| 05:10.03 | Xinhuan | that av happens 5 out of 10 games on BG9 ;p |
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| 05:10.57 | Diao | i wish they were opposite of that |
| 05:10.58 | Diao | lol |
| 05:11.11 | Diao | we've had like.. 1 of those in the past 4 days :( |
| 05:11.27 | Cryect | its normally just a race which is kinda boring |
| 05:11.42 | Cryect | I mean that AV took the same amount of time as the races are when horde is defending objectives as well |
| 05:14.21 | CIA-23 | 03speeddymon * r45849 10/branches/CooldownTimers2/Core.lua: |
| 05:14.21 | CIA-23 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 05:14.21 | CIA-23 | - Fixed issue with Trinket cooldowns |
| 05:14.21 | CIA-23 | - Fixed issue where Cooldown finishers (still) wouldn't properly remove the bar for the cooldowns it was finishing. |
| 05:14.39 | Keias | I can live with crappy horde AVs in BG9 |
| 05:14.46 | Keias | cause we rock all the others with pugs |
| 05:15.30 | Diao | eh |
| 05:15.32 | Diao | only about 80% |
| 05:15.35 | Diao | ;( |
| 05:15.38 | Diao | we lost 95% of av |
| 05:15.40 | Keias | "only" lol |
| 05:15.44 | Diao | according to bgfu! |
| 05:15.49 | Diao | honorfu* |
| 05:18.37 | Speeddymon | lol alliance always loses both ab and av on my realm.. damn mainly-horde realm |
| 05:21.01 | Fisker- | vithos i was >P |
| 05:24.37 | xyu | alliance win av 70% of the time on my server but horde usually win the rest |
| 05:24.53 | xyu | of the bgs |
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| 05:29.47 | Cyrez | I rarely win, regardless of which faction I'm fighting with. |
| 05:30.13 | Cyrez | I swear, somebody up in the heavens hates me, lol. |
| 05:30.28 | ckknight | is it me? |
| 05:30.48 | Kirkburn | No, wrong direction ckk |
| 05:30.55 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude 07Threat-1.0 * r45851 10funkydude/: Threat-1.0: branch |
| 05:32.11 | ckknight | hey, at least the dark lord has spare suites |
| 05:32.18 | Cyrez | If you hated me I wouldn't have put you on the #wowace-cia access list. ;) |
| 05:33.00 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude 07Threat-1.0 * r45852 10funkydude/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: crude method of showing AV threat |
| 05:33.08 | Cyrez | Speaking of which, you're welcome to change the topic to something more fitting to your tastes should you so choose. |
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| 06:21.10 | Kaydeethree | ick... |
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| 06:26.22 | RaydenUnicyclist | where is dagger training? |
| 06:26.27 | RaydenUnicyclist | my 68 priest needs it :D |
| 06:26.31 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 06:26.33 | Necrathex | if |
| 06:26.42 | RaydenUnicyclist | horde |
| 06:27.04 | Necrathex | undercity, silvermoon, org |
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| 06:27.31 | RaydenUnicyclist | org, uc |
| 06:27.37 | RaydenUnicyclist | and yeah silvermoon |
| 06:28.00 | Necrathex | l2wowhead :p |
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| 06:48.35 | ckknight | I think I'm gonna add a security thing to AceComm so that WHISPER won't work when you're in an arena (except for party members), cause someone could theoretically send whispers to you and make addons do things |
| 06:48.38 | ckknight | thus messing up your A-game |
| 06:49.11 | kergoth | Nemes_, ping |
| 06:49.19 | Nemes_ | hey kergoth |
| 06:49.32 | ckknight | IsInInstance() returns 1, "arena", right? |
| 06:49.34 | kergoth | i had a suggestion, minor thing, with nshakedown |
| 06:49.36 | kergoth | love the addon btw |
| 06:49.48 | Mudkipz | Any idea why wau 1.9 wont update my index? |
| 06:49.56 | Nemes_ | go for it kergoth... |
| 06:51.49 | Roartindon | ckknight: Hmm.. I think that'd be more the reposibility of the addon author, than to put it into AceComm |
| 06:52.01 | kergoth | Nemes_: I notice that your use of AceOO is essentially a singleton design pattern.. you create lots of classes with only one instance of them. here's an alternative (since a class instance is free to override the class prototype's members) -> http://kergoth.com/files/Align.lua |
| 06:52.02 | ckknight | and why's that? |
| 06:52.33 | kergoth | Nemes_: since an object is one table, and a class is 6 (or so), should simplify and reduce resource usage without losing anything |
| 06:52.57 | Roartindon | ckknight: well, you may really want your addon to receive WHISPER for whatever reason even if you're in a arena.. the onus on not interrupting the player's game should be on the addon that 'might do something' |
| 06:53.00 | Nemes_ | sounds good to me... I'm a frustrated C++ programmer... |
| 06:53.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:53.49 | Nemes_ | haha c++ earns teh money, addon coding doesn't |
| 06:53.52 | kergoth | truth |
| 06:54.08 | ckknight | Roartindon: well, the situation is this: most authors wouldn't think of this, someone could put in a backdoor, you probably don't want to be sending a lot of whispers in a crucial situation such as arena anyway |
| 06:54.11 | Roartindon | ckknight: if an addon might interrupt a player (by opening windows/or whatever), then it should be responsible to not interrupt at inconvenient times, rather than disabling a whole set of communication that's valid? |
| 06:54.22 | Thrae | Nemes_: Tell that to the WoW and Warhammer UI Design teams ;) |
| 06:54.37 | kergoth | Nemes_, you want to write the patch or should i? |
| 06:54.44 | Nemes_ | anyway... NBuffBars is nearly complete, so then I'm going back to NShakeDown.... which has a list of changes a mile long |
| 06:55.03 | Nemes_ | ooh can you please write a patch and reply with a pastey link in the thread? |
| 06:55.04 | Roartindon | ckknight: Maybe not a whole lot of whispers, but I'm sure there's reason to still process small amounts even if you're in battleground. |
| 06:55.16 | ckknight | arena, not battleground |
| 06:55.22 | kergoth | i've got a few other little addons to add support to nsd for, rangedisplay, kenergy, few other little ones that i find useful to have visible when positioning things, i'll send those over too |
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| 06:55.33 | kergoth | Align is a useful one, since it places the grid over the screen you can use to try to line things up |
| 06:55.34 | ckknight | in battleground, you can't receive whispers from the opposing team |
| 06:55.35 | Nemes_ | please add them to the thread too... that's where I'm keeping the list |
| 06:55.38 | ckknight | in arena, you can |
| 06:55.39 | kergoth | alrighy |
| 06:55.42 | kergoth | alrighty, even |
| 06:55.49 | Thrae | kergoth: Why not commit to /branches, then he can easily merge |
| 06:55.53 | Nemes_ | I will be doing both a visible grid and snap to grid, when I get onto it |
| 06:56.01 | kergoth | good idea, i'll do that |
| 06:56.09 | Roartindon | ckknight: even arena, I just think it's bad to block something at the library level. I could see it might make a reasonable option to AceComm (doNotProcessInArena) |
| 06:56.23 | Nemes_ | I'm cool with a branch too, just so long as you don't put it in http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/, 'cause they aren't branches, they're separate projects |
| 06:56.33 | kergoth | hm? |
| 06:56.57 | Roartindon | But I can imagine more problems for addon programmers trying to figure out why they're not receiving whispers in arenas, than for coders to implement a "don't interrupt player in arena check" |
| 06:57.05 | kergoth | no, /branches is for branches. some people use it for primary develpoment before they put their stuff on the trunk, but thats an odd usage of our svn layout |
| 06:57.12 | Thrae | Nemes_: Some people use it for "unstable" releases, but most use it for patches against /trunk (at least in Wowace's SVN) |
| 06:57.15 | kergoth | most using the svn use branches properly |
| 06:57.33 | Nemes_ | kergoth: please check in a branch to the trunk... easier for you and easier for me ;-) |
| 06:57.42 | kergoth | "branch to the trunk"? |
| 06:57.51 | kergoth | a branch is by definition a copy, and trunk is for seperate projects |
| 06:57.59 | kergoth | i'll give you the exact svn commands to run to merge if you need them. |
| 06:58.27 | Thrae | kergoth: Well, since tags is used for like 1% of the projects anyway... |
| 06:58.30 | Nemes_ | ok I think we have a terminology meltdown here.... you know better than I do, so please the checkin and I'll "do the needful" |
| 06:59.17 | kergoth | heh, silly people using trunk for everything need a good slap by a proper CM manager imo, or wowace should be seperate svn's like SF/googlecode/whatever :P |
| 06:59.18 | ckknight | not unless it's documented ;-) |
| 06:59.18 | ckknight | well, not if it's documented ;-) |
| 06:59.18 | ckknight | unless whispers are somehow blocked already in arena |
| 06:59.18 | ckknight | anyone know about that? |
| 06:59.21 | kergoth | but whatever |
| 06:59.32 | Thrae | ~emulate ckknight |
| 06:59.32 | purl | <@ckknight> if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to |
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| 07:03.54 | Roartindon | ckknight: Well, from the flexibility side, if you want to handle whispers even while you're in an arena, your only choice would be to not use AceComm if you block it at the library level |
| 07:04.03 | Roartindon | ckknight: I ran into a problem with AceComm a few days ago |
| 07:04.08 | Roartindon | I wanted to receive loopback messages. |
| 07:04.17 | Roartindon | But the only way I can do it is to make ALL ace modules receive loopback messages |
| 07:04.21 | Roartindon | So I can't use AceComm as a result |
| 07:04.24 | ckknight | oh yea, I plan to actually enable that for AceComm-3.0 |
| 07:04.53 | ckknight | as a temporary solution, you can send a message by whisper to yourself |
| 07:05.54 | Roartindon | ckknight: Yeah, but it was trying to illustrate the flexibility of the library. It's far easier for an addon to do a if sender == playerName than to block messages at the library level |
| 07:06.13 | ckknight | nah, I disagree, most people _don't_ want loopbacks, which is why I left it out |
| 07:06.15 | Roartindon | Which forces the addon author to 'work around' the library, not not use it |
| 07:06.42 | Roartindon | or it could be made as an option per addon that uses AceComm as a mixin |
| 07:07.04 | Roartindon | most people don't, but some might.. and if they want it, then it's no AceComm, or sending whispers additionally |
| 07:08.06 | ckknight | in all honesty, I think you're blowing the situation out of proportion |
| 07:08.37 | Roartindon | ckknight: ok, just raising my concerns about what an API shouldn't do |
| 07:10.21 | Roartindon | ckknight: If you feel it's better, then go for it; but I think the arena limitations benefits are minimal, for what could be a big bite in the ass later on |
| 07:10.32 | ckknight | I don't see said bite |
| 07:10.40 | ckknight | I may not add it cause it may not be worthwhile overall, though |
| 07:10.50 | ckknight | but not for the reasons you state |
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| 07:11.57 | Roartindon | the bite is as in.. "why does my addon work everywhere else, but ignore <something important> in areans?" |
| 07:12.22 | Roartindon | blocking whispers is blocking direct 1-1 communication. |
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| 07:26.57 | kergoth | hmm, no Parrot support in NShakedown yet eh |
| 07:28.21 | Cyrez | OMG, life! |
| 07:28.27 | kergoth | ah thats why, forgot |
| 07:28.33 | Wobwork | oh life |
| 07:28.35 | Wobwork | aaah life |
| 07:28.42 | Wobwork | no no no no |
| 07:28.45 | kergoth | no interface to unlock the scroll areas from another addon |
| 07:29.04 | kergoth | have to manually call out OnOptionsCreate for parrot and its modules, then call the function in the options tables |
| 07:29.13 | Wobwork | I'm a superstitious girl, one of the worst in the world, never walk under ladders, I keep a rabbit's tail |
| 07:29.15 | kergoth | ckknight, mind throwing a lock/unlock method in, pretty please? :) |
| 07:29.36 | Wobwork | Sade, you're weird =P Or is it Desiree? |
| 07:29.52 | Cyrez | You two should check out my project. ^^ |
| 07:29.54 | Thrae | Wobwork: I didn't know you were female. |
| 07:30.01 | Wobwork | I'm quoting lyrics =P |
| 07:30.17 | Thrae | Ah damn, I was hoping to add you to my list of females I have met on IRC. |
| 07:30.17 | Wobwork | well except the 'weird' line |
| 07:30.22 | Wobwork | Rare bunch |
| 07:30.23 | Thrae | My dream is for it to reach beyond 1 page. |
| 07:30.31 | Wobwork | how many lines to a page? |
| 07:30.39 | Thrae | I dunno, 80? |
| 07:30.43 | Wobwork | wow |
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| 07:30.55 | Wobwork | how many have you got atm? |
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| 07:30.59 | Thrae | 5 |
| 07:31.02 | Wobwork | heeh |
| 07:31.03 | Guillotine | lol |
| 07:31.11 | Wobwork | He had... |
| 07:31.13 | Wobwork | high hopes! |
| 07:31.17 | Wobwork | high in the... sky hopes! |
| 07:31.19 | Thrae | It's good to dream. |
| 07:31.31 | ckknight | kergoth: lock/unlock? |
| 07:31.50 | kergoth | ckknight, or rather, toggle config mode, to use that terminology |
| 07:31.58 | kergoth | with the example messages in the scroll areas and all |
| 07:31.59 | ckknight | kergoth: oh, for Parrot? |
| 07:32.04 | kergoth | yeah |
| 07:32.18 | ckknight | well, it only shows in config mode. |
| 07:32.22 | kergoth | NShakedown basically lets you unlock all the stuff that isnt displaying at all times, so you can arrange your ui so theres no overlapping |
| 07:32.29 | kergoth | so i just want it to also turn on parrot config mode |
| 07:32.30 | ckknight | that's how you move it |
| 07:32.33 | kergoth | right |
| 07:32.51 | kergoth | basically i want to call setConfigMode() as a method |
| 07:32.51 | ckknight | okay... |
| 07:32.56 | ckknight | ah, alright |
| 07:34.06 | ckknight | that's complex. |
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| 07:34.15 | ckknight | since the options need to be created to show it properly... |
| 07:34.18 | ckknight | bah |
| 07:35.00 | Guillotine | gn all :) |
| 07:35.08 | kergoth | yeah.. could expose initOptions, thatd be enough, i could poke into the aceoptions table to toggle config mode |
| 07:35.28 | Guillotine | btw, <3 that CIA has been moved to another channel |
| 07:35.37 | kergoth | since its getting nil'd out anyway, doesnt really matter if a one call function is a method |
| 07:35.42 | nevcairiel | where is CIA now eh? |
| 07:35.45 | nevcairiel | i missed it already =P |
| 07:35.50 | kergoth | see topic :P |
| 07:35.54 | Cyrez | It hasn't been moved... |
| 07:36.10 | Cyrez | I just bounce what it says from here into my moderated channel. |
| 07:36.17 | Guillotine | oh, I see |
| 07:36.21 | Guillotine | well, it should be moved :P |
| 07:36.22 | Guillotine | imho |
| 07:36.26 | Punkie` | no way |
| 07:36.27 | ckknight | ...no |
| 07:36.41 | Cyrez | kergoth, let me noe if you'd like autoop and I'll hook it up, BTW. |
| 07:37.31 | kergoth | Guillotine, the problem with that is, if the messages arent _in developers faces_, they'll miss it and not comment the way people would prefer, unless they're actively looking in the other chan |
| 07:37.34 | nevcairiel | wonder if that works |
| 07:37.37 | CIA-23 | ow |
| 07:37.39 | kergoth | thats one of the benefits of cia, getting it thrown in our faces |
| 07:37.48 | nevcairiel | oh well, was worth a try :P |
| 07:37.49 | kergoth | keeps communications open |
| 07:38.13 | Guillotine | I suppose |
| 07:38.20 | Cyrez | No, I thought of that ages ago. It was in a window before just for me, but I converted it into something everyone can use. |
| 07:39.42 | Cyrez | All I really had to do was add some checks so it would be so difficult to exploit that it would be a waste of time for one to pull it off. |
| 07:40.16 | Cyrez | So you can't just change your name to CIA-xx and say something. |
| 07:40.43 | nevcairiel | it didnt relay my kick to CIA either |
| 07:41.06 | Cyrez | Yeah, that was my doing. |
| 07:41.27 | Cyrez | And just the way the script works it doesn't fire on emotes. |
| 07:41.51 | ckknight | kergoth: v-- |
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| 07:42.14 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r45860 10Parrot/Code/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - add Parrot:SetConfigMode(state) |
| 07:42.22 | Cyrez | Ain't it spiffy? |
| 07:42.35 | Diao | what's AFX do o_O |
| 07:43.21 | Diao | never mind |
| 07:43.21 | Diao | lol |
| 07:44.49 | kergoth | ckknight, thanks :) |
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| 07:47.55 | Cyrez | I wonder how many people are gonna try kicking the bot to see if it relays it, lol. |
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| 07:48.16 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:48.39 | Cyrez | I did turn that off for a second at one point when I was messing with the code so I could test it, then I put it back on. |
| 07:49.28 | Cyrez | But it's still only one line. |
| 07:49.57 | Cyrez | Most of which is taken up by big IF-THEN. |
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| 07:56.16 | ckknight | coded in what, Cyrez? |
| 07:56.25 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45861 10Joker/LibJokerComm-1.0/ (. LibJokerComm-1.0.lua LibJokerComm-1.0.toc): LibJokerComm-1.0 - initial commit. |
| 07:56.33 | Cyrez | mIRC scripting. |
| 07:56.36 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 07:56.38 | ckknight | I used to do that |
| 07:56.44 | ckknight | like, 7 years ago |
| 07:56.59 | ckknight | I made a script that downloaded pornography |
| 07:57.03 | ilifin | ooh the old days of mirc script |
| 07:57.04 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 07:57.08 | ilifin | then came modular dialogs |
| 07:57.16 | Cyrez | My dad wrote a shell script for that. |
| 07:57.26 | ckknight | yea, I use shell scripts now |
| 07:57.41 | ckknight | but for mIRC it was great cause you could get it from people's fserves |
| 07:57.42 | buu | !ap 1921 |
| 07:57.42 | ThraeBot | buu: Arena points from a rating of 1921 is, 2v2: 644, 3v3: 736, 5v5: 921 |
| 07:58.20 | kergoth | hahah |
| 07:58.33 | kergoth | dont use nshakedown while flying, with inflight in your addons |
| 07:58.39 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 07:58.43 | kergoth | it just created flight map notes every couple feet the whole flight |
| 07:58.47 | kergoth | i have a trail of flight master icons |
| 07:58.56 | ckknight | well, now you know the path! |
| 07:59.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:59.02 | Diao | lol |
| 07:59.10 | ilifin | hahaha |
| 07:59.24 | ilifin | someone should write a mod that puts out 2x2 pixel dots and maps up flightpaths :p |
| 07:59.33 | Arrowmaster | i hate whoever linked Bug Discussion |
| 07:59.33 | Arrowmaster | This board is used for discussions of bugs - not to raise bugs themselves. We have a bug tracking system for bugs... |
| 07:59.35 | Arrowmaster | mt |
| 07:59.39 | nevcairiel | really, thats a idea ilifin :D |
| 07:59.55 | ilifin | does it exist yet |
| 07:59.57 | ilifin | if so I want |
| 08:00.01 | ilifin | would look awesome |
| 08:00.10 | Arrowmaster | i hate whoever linked http://www.playxpert.com/ earlyer, fucking buggy ass pos that fuckes up system drivers too |
| 08:00.50 | nevcairiel | i think you dont like it |
| 08:01.34 | Arrowmaster | well my friend just had to completely reinstall his video card drivers and i might have to too |
| 08:02.18 | Arrowmaster | when an uninstaller trashs your system drivers you know somethings wrong |
| 08:02.50 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45862 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 08:02.50 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: BlackTemple: |
| 08:02.50 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 08:03.16 | Arrowmaster | especially when it says to check C:\Windows\system32\ for any .tmp files and rename them to .dll |
| 08:04.04 | MoonWolf | kergoth, you could create a new type of addon |
| 08:04.20 | MoonWolf | addons that track flight path routes |
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| 08:09.24 | mitch0-zZ | ckk: can you think of a way to disable dogtags whose parents are hidden? |
| 08:09.46 | kergoth | ilifin, Cryect made an addon that plots the route you take as you move, its called FollowMe.. its in svn, check it out.. dont think anyone ever integrated it as a cart module though |
| 08:10.10 | ckknight | mitch0-zZ: it checks :IsVisible, I'm pretty sure... |
| 08:10.10 | ilifin | o |
| 08:10.40 | mitch0 | hm. last I checked it kept consuming cpu time |
| 08:11.07 | mitch0 | maybe not the tags themselves, but the main driver surely iterates over them |
| 08:11.30 | mitch0 | and once an event is registered, it stays registered, so there's a lot of iteration in every OnUpdate |
| 08:11.44 | mitch0 | (event is used losely here) |
| 08:15.42 | Cyrez | ckknight: I was thinking of adding some bullets or something so it can be distinguished from me just saying something. |
| 08:15.55 | Cyrez | Maybe something like [] |
| 08:16.00 | ckknight | or just a dash |
| 08:16.06 | ckknight | or something |
| 08:16.06 | ckknight | or > |
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| 08:18.02 | Cyrez | I went with a bold >. |
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| 08:20.42 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45863 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 08:20.42 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: |
| 08:20.42 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 08:22.32 | Cyrez | How's it look, ckknight? |
| 08:24.04 | Arrowmaster | why dont you just get cia in that channel? |
| 08:24.42 | Cyrez | I don't think it works that way. |
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| 08:24.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 08:25.26 | Arrowmaster | i think it does since we get commits from a few peoples googlecodes in here |
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| 08:27.54 | Arrowmaster | there voice it |
| 08:28.05 | mitch0 | ckk: oh, and another thing: don't you have some nice(er) looking CowTip config? something a bit more compact than the default Key: Value thing? would be nice if you could change the default :) |
| 08:28.21 | ckknight_ | to what? |
| 08:28.31 | mitch0 | to this nicer layout |
| 08:28.55 | mitch0 | so that I won't have to hunt for it on teh internet, but it would come to me on the next svn up :) |
| 08:33.14 | Cyrez | Who made CIA bot join my channel? |
| 08:34.11 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 08:34.34 | Cyrez | Ooo. <3 |
| 08:34.43 | Arrowmaster | do you have a cia account? |
| 08:35.03 | CIA-23 | 03deccard * r45864 10MiniChat/ (. Core.lua MiniChat.toc): |
| 08:35.03 | CIA-23 | MiniChat: initial commit |
| 08:35.03 | CIA-23 | - Lets you minimize your chat frame. |
| 08:35.04 | Cyrez | Nope. |
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| 08:35.24 | Arrowmaster | make one unless your paranoid about people getting your real name |
| 08:36.26 | ckknight_ | I know I'm paranoid about people getting my real name |
| 08:36.35 | ckknight_ | that's why I disguise myself as the shadowy figure "ckknight" |
| 08:37.14 | Zicon | And here I thought the shadowy figure thing was due to being a ninja. |
| 08:38.20 | Cyrez | Okay, got an account. |
| 08:38.27 | Arrowmaster | Cyrez: well i just created a bot for wowace-cia and copied all the wowace bot settings over to it so afaik it should work just like the one in here |
| 08:38.28 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:39.05 | Arrowmaster | Cyrez: just create a bot on freenode for wowace-cia and it should give you access to the bot |
| 08:39.18 | Cyrez | :) |
| 08:39.33 | Diao | minichat eh |
| 08:39.42 | Diao | this i'll have to check out |
| 08:40.16 | Arrowmaster | although i would have picked a channel name like wowace-commits rather than wowace-cia |
| 08:40.31 | Cyrez | Too much typing. >< |
| 08:40.38 | nevcairiel | cia looks good |
| 08:41.09 | Punkie` | Diao: Don't read the code, the indenting burns your eyes |
| 08:41.19 | Diao | lol |
| 08:41.22 | Diao | i'll just download to test |
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| 08:43.04 | Arrowmaster | rofl kergoth is in the cia advanced filtering example |
| 08:43.10 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:43.11 | kergoth | i am? |
| 08:43.17 | Arrowmaster | http://cia.vc/doc/rulesets/ |
| 08:43.22 | Arrowmaster | We like Kergoth, but we got tired of his commits to KergothWOWBits. |
| 08:43.22 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.34 | Diao | rofl |
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| 08:43.56 | kergoth | hahah, i forgot about that |
| 08:44.21 | kergoth | had my addon set being in svn, and cia notified, for a bit :P |
| 08:44.25 | kergoth | s/being // |
| 08:44.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:44.49 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:44.56 | kergoth | whats a good HUD to use nowadays? icehud or archud2? |
| 08:44.57 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:45.02 | Arrowmaster | why did you have cia on that svn? |
| 08:45.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [Ammo]] by ChanServ |
| 08:45.09 | kergoth | no idea |
| 08:45.12 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:45.38 | [Ammo] | hey kergoth, still no kEnergy :p |
| 08:45.41 | [Ammo] | </hint> |
| 08:45.55 | Diao | what's the point of huds nowadays |
| 08:45.59 | Diao | just for style? |
| 08:46.18 | Roartindon | Diao: To remove other stuff from the screen |
| 08:46.23 | Roartindon | Have important information centralized |
| 08:46.30 | Diao | well |
| 08:46.37 | Diao | don't they just show self/target hp/mana |
| 08:46.41 | Diao | and maybe a casting bar? |
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| 08:46.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 08:46.46 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r45865 10Talented_Data/ (7 files): Talented_Data: regenerate |
| 08:47.07 | [Ammo] | it's a matter of preference Diao |
| 08:47.34 | Diao | i guess |
| 08:47.36 | Diao | i used to use huds |
| 08:47.37 | mitch0 | [ammo]: svn is up. would you care looking into vio remembering the hidden state of its windows? :) |
| 08:47.45 | Diao | until i got UFs that you could put in the center of your screen |
| 08:47.48 | Diao | then i never needed it again |
| 08:48.00 | [Ammo] | mitch0: it remembers it fine for me |
| 08:48.03 | [Ammo] | but meh |
| 08:48.16 | mitch0 | hm |
| 08:48.17 | kergoth | [Ammo], ah, thanks for the reminder, totally forgot about it |
| 08:48.17 | Punkie` | it does not remember it at all ammo :P |
| 08:48.23 | ckknight | Diao: hehe, right |
| 08:48.29 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: then someone fucked that up |
| 08:48.31 | [Ammo] | probably me or Mikk |
| 08:48.37 | [Ammo] | but I'l look into it later |
| 08:48.43 | [Ammo] | right now I have 154 emails to answer |
| 08:48.43 | mitch0 | [ammo]: are we talking about the same thing? |
| 08:48.45 | ckknight | it's all about minimization of eye movement |
| 08:48.57 | [Ammo] | due to being at WOA for a week |
| 08:49.11 | Diao | ;p |
| 08:49.15 | nevcairiel | hit the delete button |
| 08:49.15 | [Ammo] | lucky my collegues handled the other emails, or I'd be swamped |
| 08:49.16 | nevcairiel | that helps |
| 08:49.19 | [Ammo] | can't do that |
| 08:49.22 | kergoth | i'm using centrally placed pitbull instead of a hud nowadays too, but the presentation/layout doesnt seem optimal for that, maybe i'll find a good pitbull layout for central placed |
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| 08:54.04 | QQngsk | kergoth, http://home.comcast.net/~gngsk/ud.jpg central placed pitbull, how would you rather it look? |
| 08:54.17 | CIA-23 | 03deccard * r45866 10MiniChat/: |
| 08:54.18 | CIA-23 | MiniChat: |
| 08:54.18 | CIA-23 | - first commit for testing purposes |
| 08:54.35 | kergoth | not sure |
| 08:54.59 | QQngsk | me either |
| 08:55.01 | Arrowmaster | is that a helm? |
| 08:55.06 | QQngsk | whut? |
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| 08:55.26 | Arrowmaster | are you wearing a helm? |
| 08:55.34 | Gngsk | nope |
| 08:55.57 | Arrowmaster | what race are you? |
| 08:56.09 | Gngsk | gnome |
| 08:56.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont get it |
| 08:56.38 | nevcairiel | i am confused |
| 08:56.44 | nevcairiel | for that race issue thing |
| 08:57.13 | Gngsk | lol |
| 08:57.14 | Gngsk | it's a model hack |
| 08:57.18 | Diao | it looks |
| 08:57.18 | Arrowmaster | he looks like an undead and pitbull says undead but that face does NOT look like normal undead |
| 08:57.19 | Diao | really weird |
| 08:57.25 | nevcairiel | it even says undead in your player frame |
| 08:57.27 | Gngsk | and I just hardcoded the pitbull text |
| 08:57.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:57.34 | Gngsk | :D |
| 08:57.43 | Diao | why do you want to look undead |
| 08:57.44 | Diao | lol |
| 08:57.52 | Gngsk | I prefer the animations |
| 08:57.52 | Diao | the model looks all funny |
| 08:57.56 | Arrowmaster | so he can jump higher than gnomes |
| 08:57.56 | Diao | oh |
| 08:58.01 | Diao | like that breastplate |
| 08:58.02 | Gngsk | lol, I wish |
| 08:58.04 | Diao | doesn't look like it fits :P |
| 08:58.14 | Arrowmaster | game physics are based on client model! |
| 08:58.15 | Gngsk | it doesn't, but I almost never look at myself from that angle |
| 08:58.47 | Gngsk | you dunno how much cash I've saved on noggenfogger since I did the model hack |
| 08:58.49 | Gngsk | literally thousands |
| 08:58.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:03.06 | CIA-23 | 03taburiss * r45867 10Aloft/ (50 files in 7 dirs): |
| 09:03.06 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 09:03.06 | CIA-23 | - Locale-zhCN added. |
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| 09:09.59 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r45868 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: make mitch0 a happy camper with a bugfix to the shown state of windows and the remembering of it. |
| 09:10.07 | kergoth | hmm |
| 09:10.41 | kergoth | i like the way most huds are laid out, the rings and all, but i need pettarget and targettarget and such.. so i'd have to keep those from pitbull visible even if player+target arent.. |
| 09:10.41 | kergoth | meh |
| 09:13.34 | [Ammo] | happy? |
| 09:13.40 | [Ammo] | was a silly thing |
| 09:14.28 | Cyrez | Why does using addresses with ChanServ's access list just, like, not work at all? |
| 09:14.37 | Cyrez | Or am I doing something wrong? |
| 09:18.37 | CIA-23 | 03nemes * r45869 10NBuffBars/ (4 files): NBuffBars: add generated examples, add group sorting, tweak bar appearance and text |
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| 09:19.46 | nevcairiel | hmm something is wrong with MountUp |
| 09:19.58 | nevcairiel | it always equips a wrong trinket when i dismount |
| 09:20.49 | Cheads | [Ammo], is Possibbility to keep two running totals: 'this fight' and 'overall' ever going to be added? =) |
| 09:21.16 | [Ammo] | I have answered that question a gazillion time salready |
| 09:23.01 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r45870 10Violation/Other/ (Decurse.lua Dispel.lua Violation_Other.toc): Violation: Split decursing module into dispel and decurse. |
| 09:23.01 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r45871 10Violation/ (Violation.lua modules.xml): Violation: split decursing module in dispel and decurse |
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| 09:25.57 | kergoth | is there a slash command to reset instances, or only via the player menu? |
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| 09:27.12 | Cheads | [Ammo] I'm sorry for asking then. I have tried to find out, and wasn't able to. I'll try and search some more on the forum |
| 09:27.38 | [Ammo] | try the todo.txt |
| 09:27.41 | [Ammo] | included with the addon |
| 09:28.04 | nevcairiel | kergoth: /script ResetInstances(); |
| 09:28.32 | kergoth | ah, right then |
| 09:28.36 | Cheads | ok, I can see it's mentioned there. Great then there's still hope =) |
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| 09:34.14 | CIA-23 | 03wessller * r45872 10autoedg/ (AutoEDG.toc Core.lua): |
| 09:34.14 | CIA-23 | autoedg: |
| 09:34.14 | CIA-23 | - Implemented AutoGratz (Still in test) |
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| 09:36.57 | Fisker- | http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/minesweeper-the-movie-286639.php rofl |
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| 09:38.24 | Elkano | Fisker-, you dont happen to be posting on the steam community forums, do you? |
| 09:38.43 | Fisker- | indeed |
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| 09:38.56 | Elkano | I knew it when I saw it ^^ |
| 09:40.20 | CIA-23 | 03deccard * r45873 10MiniChat/MiniChat.toc: |
| 09:40.20 | CIA-23 | MiniChat: |
| 09:40.20 | CIA-23 | - toc change |
| 09:40.38 | Fisker- | saw what? |
| 09:41.57 | Elkano | the name FISKER_Q |
| 09:42.00 | Fisker- | ah |
| 09:42.44 | kergoth | any good little addon to speed up application of raid icons? |
| 09:42.58 | nevcairiel | let me know when you find one kergoth |
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| 09:48.22 | kergoth | nevcairiel, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5353-SimpleRaidTargetIcons.html seems aptly named, from quick testing it works nice indeed |
| 09:48.42 | kergoth | ctrl+leftclick on a mob and it pops up a radial menu to apply the icon to the mob you've moused over |
| 09:48.46 | Fritti | charmsfu? |
| 09:48.46 | Elkano | wasn't there one to apply them on the mouseover target? |
| 09:49.03 | Fritti | puts all icons on your fubar, not sure if it can do mouseover |
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| 09:50.10 | CIA-23 | 03daviesh * r45874 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (Atlas1.10Compat.lua AtlasLoot.lua HooksandAPI.lua): |
| 09:50.10 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:50.10 | CIA-23 | - Now supporting Atlas 1.10 pre-release 3 |
| 09:50.48 | MoonWolf | ive been waiting for something like that for ages. |
| 09:51.52 | mitch0 | kergoth: I was thinking about creating 4 macros and bind them to F1-F4, but was too lazy for that even (speaking of raid target icons). |
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| 09:52.43 | Vaddern_1780 | http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=1780 |
| 09:53.30 | Cheads | you can bind the "set raid icon skull/circle/etc" to different keys.. I use alt+numpad1-8 |
| 09:54.04 | Diao | aloft error on latest update |
| 09:54.12 | Diao | [2007/08/07 02:52:34-1317-x1]: Aloft-r45867\Options\Modules\RecentlyDamagedIcon.lua:114: unfinished string near '"???????Y????,' |
| 09:54.19 | mitch0 | srti sounds nice though |
| 09:54.31 | mitch0 | the temp keybindings would be nice, too |
| 09:54.41 | [Ammo] | Diao: probably some chinese fucked it up |
| 09:54.43 | [Ammo] | happens |
| 09:55.07 | Bruners | is the thag "NumTargetting" removed now or ? |
| 09:55.19 | Bruners | *tag |
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| 09:57.58 | Diao | hmm |
| 09:58.01 | Diao | minichat looks sweet |
| 09:58.06 | Diao | now just need it to support |
| 09:58.09 | Diao | all chatframes |
| 09:58.14 | Diao | instead of just the main one :P |
| 09:58.15 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r45875 10Violation/ (violationlod.bat violationlod.sh): Violation: remove modules.xml with the lod scripts |
| 09:59.48 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: btw did you know somebody put violation up on wowinterface |
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| 10:02.49 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: link? |
| 10:03.02 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7399-Violation.html |
| 10:03.09 | ckknight | Bruners: no, it's just spelled correctly now: [NumTargeting] |
| 10:03.16 | ckknight | Bruners: also added [TargetingList] |
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| 10:08.24 | Thelyna | is there a mod out there that disables autoloot for BoP items and epics? |
| 10:08.38 | Diao | uhh |
| 10:08.48 | Diao | aren't bop items not autolootable |
| 10:08.49 | Diao | ? |
| 10:08.51 | Thelyna | I know there's the checkbox |
| 10:08.53 | ilifin | true |
| 10:08.53 | ilifin | :p |
| 10:09.01 | Thelyna | but it will attempt to loot then ask you are you sure |
| 10:09.03 | ilifin | you'll get a confirmation box |
| 10:09.08 | Diao | yeah.. |
| 10:09.15 | Thelyna | and also you can autoloot non-bop epic patterns |
| 10:09.23 | Diao | er |
| 10:09.24 | Diao | what |
| 10:09.30 | Diao | if it's non-bop |
| 10:09.32 | Diao | then what's the problem |
| 10:10.00 | Thelyna | it's just annoying |
| 10:10.16 | Diao | so you don't want to loot non-bop patterns? |
| 10:10.31 | kergoth | you mean you want it to just ignore BoP stuff and pick up what isnt, instead of prompting? |
| 10:10.37 | Thelyna | I don't want to auto-loot any epics period |
| 10:10.42 | Thelyna | and I want it to ignore bops |
| 10:10.54 | Diao | uhh |
| 10:11.08 | Diao | interface can't detect bop until you actually loot the corpse/box/whatever i think |
| 10:11.21 | Diao | so by the time it disables autoloot it'll already have attempted to loot it? |
| 10:12.07 | Thelyna | be weird if that was the way it worked |
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| 10:29.09 | Bruners | ckknight_: aha :) |
| 10:30.42 | Bruners | ckknight_: the _list shows a list of who has that target? |
| 10:31.04 | ckknight_ | yep |
| 10:31.06 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45876 10fmBuffCheck/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua fmBuffCheck.lua): |
| 10:31.06 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 10:31.07 | CIA-23 | - More profile works... |
| 10:32.29 | CIA-23 | 03mitchell * r45877 10RangeDisplay/ (RangeDisplay.toc localization-zhCN.lua localization-zhTW.lua): RangeDisplay: added localizations zhCN and zhTW by lcncg |
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| 10:33.58 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:34.34 | Bam__ | Is there an option/module in Prat that can ignore certain system messages such as those pesky "X has defeated Y in a duel."? |
| 10:36.56 | mitch0 | ok, now I only need frFR and enES localizations. anyone care to do them? :) |
| 10:37.38 | mitch0 | esES even |
| 10:38.03 | mitch0 | |Pixel| take a look at RangeDisplay/localization-frFR.lua then :) thanks in advance |
| 10:39.05 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:39.06 | Diao | wtf |
| 10:39.13 | Diao | can the bone wastes in auchindoun |
| 10:39.16 | Diao | be controlled by neither side? |
| 10:39.26 | Diao | or is my game bugged |
| 10:39.49 | Rccsv | I do recall that's happened on my server once or twice. No idea about a cause, though. |
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| 10:40.35 | Diao | oh |
| 10:48.24 | Grum | i think when no-one cares to take them they wont be from any side? :) |
| 10:49.52 | CIA-23 | 03pettigrow * r45878 10BigWigs/ (8 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
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| 10:53.59 | Pkekyo | well this has to be wrong |
| 10:54.12 | Grum | then let's declare it wrong and work from there =D |
| 10:54.12 | Pkekyo | omen's showing people with 160% threat not pulling aggro O.o |
| 10:54.31 | Pkekyo | rofl Grum |
| 10:54.35 | Grum | oh that's easily achieved, which classes? |
| 10:54.42 | Pkekyo | mage |
| 10:54.43 | Grum | what mobs? :) |
| 10:54.56 | Pkekyo | Tempest Forge Destroyer (one) in heroic mech |
| 10:55.09 | Grum | knockback on tank right? :) |
| 10:55.17 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 10:55.26 | Grum | that is most likely the cause then |
| 10:55.44 | Pkekyo | no, 'casue they were staticly over me with 30-90% all the fight |
| 10:55.57 | Grum | anyone using non-omen? ;) |
| 10:56.17 | evl | I am |
| 10:56.18 | Pkekyo | prolly KTM people here |
| 10:56.25 | evl | Using Violation for damage + threat |
| 10:56.26 | Grum | nah i mean in your group :) |
| 10:56.30 | evl | and assassment is pretty good too |
| 10:56.47 | Grum | evl: as long as you use non-ktm ;) (aka Threat-1.0 :P) |
| 10:56.56 | evl | I can't use KTM |
| 10:56.58 | evl | I love my computer |
| 10:57.05 | evl | I don't want it to be fucking sodomized by an addon |
| 10:57.27 | Grum | aww you should run ctra+ktm |
| 10:57.51 | Pkekyo | Grum: I know what you meant... |
| 10:58.14 | Pkekyo | ctra+ktm sucks frozen donkeyballnuts |
| 10:58.15 | Grum | but Pkekyo, in your group - anyone not using Threat-1.0 ? :) |
| 10:58.40 | CIA-23 | 03wobin 07Wobin * r45879 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.lua PlowEngine.lua): MrPlow: Just adding stuff to access later |
| 10:58.47 | Pkekyo | Grum: yes, I said so...three people with KTM and one without anything |
| 10:59.30 | Grum | i'm trying to find that .. but i cant seem to see you have said that O.o |
| 11:00.08 | Grum | must be going blind orso .. anyhow - any data from KTM sucks ass .. so really .. have em get Omen |
| 11:00.14 | Grum | you cant blaim omen for KTM's nubness |
| 11:00.15 | Pkekyo | Grumanyone using non-omen? |
| 11:00.15 | Pkekyo | Pkekyoprolly KTM people here |
| 11:00.54 | Grum | well yeah but at that time also people from this channel were replying to me not so specific question ;D |
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| 11:02.06 | ckknight_ | http://www.mises.org/TRTS.htm |
| 11:02.38 | Pkekyo | sefdom? |
| 11:02.45 | Pkekyo | serfdom* |
| 11:03.46 | ckknight_ | yea |
| 11:05.39 | Pkekyo | Grum: nvm, I found the reason...spell reflect ^^ |
| 11:06.00 | Grum | mmm |
| 11:06.11 | Pkekyo | I love spell reflect in heroic mech |
| 11:06.18 | Grum | they toss up a shield which reflect? or you did? |
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| 11:06.40 | Pkekyo | Spell Reflect - Warrior ability? |
| 11:06.45 | Grum | (you were playing tankadin right? - but spell reflect is like warrior) |
| 11:06.56 | Grum | ah that's what my mind clashed on ;D |
| 11:07.10 | Grum | mmm so the spell reflect code should be fixed |
| 11:07.10 | Pkekyo | 4k damage worth of threat just like that...gotta love it :> |
| 11:07.18 | Grum | yeah |
| 11:07.29 | Pkekyo | and no, I'm playing: |
| 11:07.29 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 11:07.33 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 10105 HP; 8080 Armour; 1516 AP; 217.9 Melee DPS; 24.61% melee crit; 102 melee hit; 8.12% dodge; 10.8% block; 46 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytatlc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okjqb ]] |
| 11:07.42 | nevcairiel | ah walking steaks |
| 11:07.53 | Pkekyo | my druid is named Ibringbeef... |
| 11:08.01 | Grum | hehe in whack-gear as well :D |
| 11:08.08 | Pkekyo | it's my dps gear |
| 11:08.11 | omega | Pkekyo: norwegian? |
| 11:08.11 | Pkekyo | :< |
| 11:08.31 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 11:08.33 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer loreanol |
| 11:08.36 | ThraeBot | Grum: Loreanol, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (23/38/0). 7871 HP; 10110 Mana; 366 mana regen; 166 mp5; 81 +spell dmg; 1678 +heal; 6.18% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/249aqj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wjxvz ]] |
| 11:08.38 | Pkekyo | armory won't fucking update with my tankinggear |
| 11:08.49 | omega | Pkekyo: figured by the name :p |
| 11:08.51 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer xaros |
| 11:08.52 | Cyrez | Mmmm, steak. |
| 11:08.53 | Pkekyo | omega: the char started as a bad joke...and the GMs won't let me change the name |
| 11:08.54 | ThraeBot | Grum: Xaros, Level 70 Human Priest (20/41/0). 7491 HP; 10590 Mana; 510 mana regen; 221 mp5; 105 +spell dmg; 1835 +heal; 6.14% dodge; +25 all resists; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fh5xj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2kr79p ]] |
| 11:08.59 | nevcairiel | why does it show dodge for priests? |
| 11:09.11 | Grum | dunno :D |
| 11:09.15 | Punkie` | because they can! |
| 11:09.23 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas nevcairiel |
| 11:09.26 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 8134 HP; 9350 Mana; 392 mana regen; 182 mp5; 5.28% melee crit; 1674 +heal; 6.47% dodge; 31 resilience; +33 all resists (+10 nature); [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2djck4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o6h5g ]] |
| 11:09.41 | omega | Pkekyo: hehe |
| 11:09.52 | Punkie` | !c eu kazzak punkie |
| 11:09.54 | Grum | it should show: HP / MP / +healing / +dmg / SPI / mp5 while casting at least :) |
| 11:09.56 | ThraeBot | Punkie`: Punkie, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (41/20/0). 10064 HP; +10 Energy; 3868 Armour; 1711 AP; 380.3 Melee DPS; 28.15% melee crit; 274 melee hit; 27.46% dodge; 12 resilience; +33 all resists (+10 arcane); [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqvthz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33depx ]] |
| 11:10.02 | Punkie` | gnome ftw |
| 11:10.22 | Grum | gnomes rock :) |
| 11:10.32 | Punkie` | it's so true |
| 11:10.40 | Grum | lol .. you resto nevcairiel ? ;)) |
| 11:10.53 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 11:10.54 | nevcairiel | what else |
| 11:11.11 | Grum | high regen for a druid :) |
| 11:11.35 | nevcairiel | and i didnt loout fully buffed =P |
| 11:11.38 | nevcairiel | *logout |
| 11:11.46 | Grum | ah i see |
| 11:11.51 | Grum | phatgear :D |
| 11:11.52 | nevcairiel | only motw |
| 11:11.53 | Cyrez | I do my lady's talents for her. |
| 11:12.13 | Grum | T6 stuff, nice - i wish we were even close to there |
| 11:12.21 | nevcairiel | its T5 |
| 11:12.24 | Grum | we actually recently spend a night wiping on Lurker |
| 11:12.26 | evl | Does Misery (Shadow Priest debuff) stack above 5% if you have two SPriests nuking? |
| 11:12.27 | nevcairiel | not quite at T6 |
| 11:12.27 | Dynom | !c eu Emeriss Dynom |
| 11:12.30 | ThraeBot | Dynom: Dynom, Level 70 Undead Warlock (41/2/18). 8140 HP; 8020 Mana; 109 mana regen; 88 spell crit; 55 spell hit; 716 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (770); 220 shadow dmg (936); 4.28% dodge; 76 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypfos9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2kpfx8 ]] |
| 11:12.35 | Grum | nevcairiel: yeah but stuff from T6 instances as well :) |
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| 11:12.49 | nevcairiel | oh yeah the bracers |
| 11:13.00 | Grum | is the shard still that good for you at that level? |
| 11:13.06 | nevcairiel | hm nah |
| 11:13.11 | nevcairiel | but i dont have anything better |
| 11:13.21 | nevcairiel | i hope for the vashj thing |
| 11:13.32 | Grum | keeping it for the mp5? |
| 11:13.33 | nevcairiel | didnt drop once for my guild |
| 11:13.45 | Grum | oh the mag 2h staff is also niiiiiice :) |
| 11:13.58 | nevcairiel | i have the arena mace for healing values |
| 11:14.05 | nevcairiel | but mp5 is nice on the shard |
| 11:14.44 | Grum | yup |
| 11:15.08 | Grum | i think i touched 300mp5 last night raidbuffed (forgot my food however) |
| 11:15.17 | Grum | was an easy night healing wise =D |
| 11:15.29 | Pkekyo | blizz didn't stealthbuff last boss of heroic mech did they? |
| 11:15.37 | Roartindon | Grum: Wiping on Lurker? ouch...... |
| 11:15.46 | Grum | Roartindon: no kidding |
| 11:15.51 | Grum | i was like severly pissed |
| 11:15.53 | Roartindon | Grum: People not jumping in? |
| 11:16.05 | Grum | and made them train the jumping in by having me run around with an icon on my head |
| 11:16.06 | nevcairiel | you could even swim all the time =P |
| 11:16.07 | Grum | yup |
| 11:16.16 | Grum | yeah our castergroup does that |
| 11:16.18 | Grum | shadoompriest and done |
| 11:16.21 | Rccsv | Pkekyo, I haven't noticed it if they have. |
| 11:16.34 | Grum | we killed him yesterday on the first try with only 16 peope alive O.o |
| 11:16.49 | Grum | so happy we killed him else i had to go ballistic again =D |
| 11:16.52 | nevcairiel | we have our MT say "spout" in TS and everyone jumps in until its over |
| 11:16.57 | Pkekyo | for some reason he's much harder to down all of a sudden |
| 11:17.05 | Grum | lol not at all |
| 11:17.08 | Grum | he's such a walkover |
| 11:17.09 | Roartindon | heh, we still raid without vent/ts |
| 11:17.16 | Grum | even easier than VR :) |
| 11:17.41 | omega | Pkekyo: hehe |
| 11:17.42 | Grum | oh .. after that we wiped 4 times on gruul O.o |
| 11:17.45 | omega | ouch, wrong window |
| 11:17.45 | Grum | it was a bad day ;( |
| 11:18.22 | nevcairiel | we had our first night in black temple yesterday |
| 11:18.32 | Roartindon | nevcairiel: Cool, how did you go? |
| 11:18.47 | nevcairiel | we killed najentus .. but ran out of time for supremus |
| 11:18.57 | Grum | lol is it that easy? |
| 11:19.02 | Roartindon | nevcairiel: Did you find him as easy as some reports I've read? |
| 11:19.11 | nevcairiel | najentus requires really good healers |
| 11:19.22 | nevcairiel | but other then that, yeah its not hard |
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| 11:19.37 | Grum | well we kinda have a problem there .. we have 4 really good ones (always far on top and within 5% of eachother) |
| 11:19.49 | Grum | and the rest .. well .. sucks :) |
| 11:19.49 | nevcairiel | supremus is easy as well, but it was getting too late for the kill |
| 11:19.52 | Grum | the rest (2 or 3) combined make 1 of the others O.o |
| 11:19.56 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:20.58 | Grum | game isn't as fun if you dont make progress |
| 11:21.06 | Pkekyo | second wipe of the day...sigh |
| 11:21.12 | Grum | all the bosses are like ... piss easy imho |
| 11:21.16 | nevcairiel | i replaced all my healing spells with macros now because i am too lazy to code that into bartender .. i so suck :P |
| 11:21.30 | Grum | how do you mean? |
| 11:21.39 | Grum | 'replaced with macros'? :) |
| 11:21.56 | Pkekyo | he made macros to cast the spells |
| 11:21.59 | nevcairiel | ./cast [modifier:alt,target=player] [help] [target=targettarget, help] [target=none]Swiftmend |
| 11:22.09 | nevcairiel | so i can target the boss and it heals the tank |
| 11:22.15 | Grum | oh |
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| 11:22.25 | Grum | i target random people to inspect their healing styles =D |
| 11:22.38 | nevcairiel | its great for some fights |
| 11:22.39 | Grum | clique ftw sortofsay |
| 11:22.53 | Grum | i dont see a reason tbh, you can always see who has had aggro even for a second |
| 11:22.53 | nevcairiel | like rage winterchill |
| 11:22.58 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: fyi in bartender3, attack and shoot arent getting icons updated when swaping weapoins |
| 11:23.23 | nevcairiel | well rage winterchill does like 5k instant, and 2.5k per second dot, you dont have time to switch targets |
| 11:23.27 | nevcairiel | so i target the boss |
| 11:23.33 | nevcairiel | when i see targettarget switch |
| 11:23.33 | nevcairiel | i cast |
| 11:23.37 | Grum | i dont switch targets |
| 11:23.50 | Grum | i dont heal targets - i heal people i click onto :) |
| 11:23.59 | nevcairiel | you dont have time to find the person in your raid frames either :P |
| 11:24.03 | nevcairiel | i tried that |
| 11:24.07 | nevcairiel | thats what i normally do too |
| 11:24.08 | Neebler | http://ctscreens.net/8379 |
| 11:24.08 | Grum | and with grid you have like 400x200 pixels to click in at most ;D |
| 11:24.12 | Neebler | kekeke |
| 11:24.25 | nevcairiel | well plus i need 2s for my heal |
| 11:24.28 | nevcairiel | and not 1.5 like priests |
| 11:24.47 | Grum | just curious how you are faster that way |
| 11:25.05 | nevcairiel | i save the part of a second to actually find the person in grid |
| 11:25.15 | Grum | because i actually noticed that having my mouse hovering over the 'target-target' frame all the time kinda keeps me of healing the others :D |
| 11:25.25 | nevcairiel | thats what the macro is for |
| 11:25.25 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:25.28 | Grum | why find? you can just put up a 'red aggro box' ;D |
| 11:25.37 | Roartindon | nevcairiel: You're a druid? pally? |
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| 11:25.41 | nevcairiel | druid |
| 11:25.56 | Grum | ah well i'd kill for another good druid and one paladin |
| 11:26.05 | Grum | so we can just take 6 healers max and kick all the rest of the crap |
| 11:26.10 | Pkekyo | how to leave an arena team? can never remember the command >.< |
| 11:26.10 | Roartindon | 4 piece t4 paladin is incredibly powerful |
| 11:26.17 | Roartindon | t5* |
| 11:26.35 | Grum | itemname? want to look it up now :D |
| 11:26.46 | Roartindon | Grum: Gives -0.25sec casting time to heals |
| 11:26.47 | Grum | 2piece t5 on priets is also like imba :) |
| 11:26.50 | Grum | what? |
| 11:26.51 | nevcairiel | crystalforge or so |
| 11:26.51 | Grum | geez |
| 11:26.59 | Grum | they are already at 2s casting on their fatheals O.o |
| 11:27.01 | Roartindon | Yep |
| 11:27.06 | Roartindon | so it gets even more insane |
| 11:27.10 | Grum | gah |
| 11:27.17 | Grum | how can i ever outheal those pallynubs then? |
| 11:27.28 | Roartindon | Grum: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30134 |
| 11:27.47 | Grum | gah |
| 11:27.49 | Grum | that is sick |
| 11:27.59 | Grum | 1.75s on their fat heal excluding haste bonus |
| 11:28.11 | Grum | pick up 1 item with haste and you have GCD 5-9k heals O.o |
| 11:28.12 | nevcairiel | i dunno whats your issue there :P |
| 11:28.16 | Roartindon | I wish there was a mage 4 piece bonus -0.25sec on Frostbolt/fireball/etc :) |
| 11:28.33 | Grum | nevcairiel: not that much - but we are a bit heavy on priests |
| 11:28.41 | Grum | in the '4 good one' there are 3 priests and 1 pally |
| 11:28.47 | nevcairiel | i can outheal pallys |
| 11:28.47 | Grum | and the pally is actually undergeared ;D |
| 11:28.49 | nevcairiel | as a druid |
| 11:29.03 | Grum | ofc you just hot all up like sickness :) |
| 11:29.05 | Roartindon | druids rock with hots for healing |
| 11:29.13 | nevcairiel | hmm too bad, the WWS logs have been killed from the server |
| 11:29.17 | Grum | with proper mp5 you can hot for like-ever |
| 11:29.33 | Grum | meh i gotto get some food before my meeting - brb ;) |
| 11:31.35 | cncfanatics | gooood morning |
| 11:32.25 | Pkekyo | not really |
| 11:34.38 | nevcairiel | too bad all our healing shamans suck |
| 11:34.41 | nevcairiel | they can be so powerful |
| 11:34.59 | Pkekyo | my guild doesn't even have a shaman O.o |
| 11:35.18 | nevcairiel | we have a vera good elemental |
| 11:35.19 | Roartindon | nevcairiel: Chain heal is pretty nice in some fights |
| 11:35.27 | nevcairiel | and 3 sucky resto shamans |
| 11:36.00 | Pkekyo | how can I get a macro to show the tooltip for the skill it's casting? |
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| 11:36.23 | nevcairiel | #showtooltip |
| 11:36.35 | Pkekyo | #showtooltip Last Stand? |
| 11:36.48 | nevcairiel | either that |
| 11:36.58 | nevcairiel | or only #showtooltip and it will detect the spell |
| 11:38.03 | Pkekyo | where in the macro should I put it? |
| 11:38.10 | nevcairiel | first line |
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| 11:38.51 | Bruners | why cant people post a screenshot when they post layouts of cowtip |
| 11:39.02 | Pkekyo | doesn't work :< |
| 11:40.40 | Fisker- | wait what? |
| 11:40.51 | Fisker- | Why would a newssite report that ID doesn't use DX10 for their new engine |
| 11:40.54 | Fisker- | THEY NEVER USE DIRECTX |
| 11:41.08 | nevcairiel | its not wrong then |
| 11:41.29 | Fisker- | No but it's not news either |
| 11:41.48 | Elkano | the fun about OpenGL nowadays is that it can show DX10 style effects even under WinXP without a wrapper ^^ |
| 11:41.59 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 11:42.02 | cncfanatics | And it can be used under every OS too |
| 11:42.54 | nevcairiel | yeah OGL is more powerful then DX if used properly |
| 11:43.00 | nevcairiel | (wow OGL mode kinda sucks) |
| 11:43.11 | cncfanatics | wow OGL mode is fine for me |
| 11:43.19 | cncfanatics | dont notice any difference with directx in my windows box |
| 11:43.24 | cncfanatics | (running OpenGL mode in wine atm) |
| 11:44.01 | Arrowmaster | most developers are too lazy or cheap to do a proper ogl display |
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| 11:46.47 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, is the GetAttribute function worth caching ? |
| 11:47.03 | nevcairiel | it was |
| 11:47.07 | nevcairiel | not sure if it was changed :P |
| 11:47.17 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 11:47.28 | cncfanatics | caching is irritating |
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| 11:47.41 | cncfanatics | lots of potential events where the cache has to be reset |
| 11:48.10 | nevcairiel | the only thing i cache now is GetModifiedAttribute |
| 11:48.27 | cncfanatics | same |
| 11:48.42 | cncfanatics | might just write my own wrapper around it |
| 11:48.49 | cncfanatics | blizz's one does way too much |
| 11:49.04 | cncfanatics | would also get me rid of caching |
| 11:50.15 | cncfanatics | I actualy only ever need the prefix modified, so |
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| 11:58.15 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45880 10Aloft/Options/Modules/RecentlyDamagedIcon.lua: |
| 11:58.15 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 11:58.15 | CIA-23 | - Fixed syntax error introduced by taburiss |
| 12:00.30 | Ominous | Cyrez: ping |
| 12:09.21 | Dustwhisper- | Question: On damagemeters say SWStats, recount, even WWS, if you have multiple frostmages with water elemental, is the damage from ALL water elementals added on every frostmage if Pet data is merged ? Or is a frostmages WE only counted for him? |
| 12:11.38 | cncfanatics | it lives ! |
| 12:11.42 | cncfanatics | yay my code works perfectly :) |
| 12:11.59 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper- pets are merged into the mage if the option is set |
| 12:12.12 | cncfanatics | if pets are set to not be merged,all pets will be one entity |
| 12:12.33 | Ominous | cncfanatics: hows fb2 comming along? |
| 12:12.40 | cncfanatics | Ominous, its starting to get alive |
| 12:13.01 | cncfanatics | Polishing the last things for button dragging (its not using action ids btw, so you can have unlimited buttons) |
| 12:13.17 | Ominous | does changing button layout in combat work? |
| 12:13.59 | Ominous | i mean like move eviscerate from button 8 to button 4 |
| 12:14.13 | cncfanatics | doubt I can ever get that to work |
| 12:14.17 | cncfanatics | attributes are locekd in combat |
| 12:15.46 | cncfanatics | my slashcommands system also seems to be slightly buggy atm |
| 12:16.03 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45881 10Assessment/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:16.03 | CIA-23 | Assessment |
| 12:16.03 | CIA-23 | - Added CrowdControl module |
| 12:16.03 | CIA-23 | - Now will stop gathering a majority of data when paused |
| 12:17.09 | cncfanatics | Ominous, I'm polishing the dragging & shift-alt-ctrl action system atm |
| 12:17.45 | Roartindon | Dustwhisper-: I don't believe that damagemeters, swstats, recount or wws merge multiple water elementals accurately. I may be wrong.. cryect will know more |
| 12:18.23 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r45882 10PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0/PratPlugin-1.0.lua: PratPlugin-1.0: Fix typo in the code which handles cross-server names |
| 12:18.43 | Dustwhisper- | Yea i am a bit unsure myself |
| 12:18.59 | cncfanatics | they're flagged as pets, so they should be merged to their specific mage correctly |
| 12:19.02 | Dustwhisper- | someone told me yesterday that the accumulated damage from a WE is added on all mages or something |
| 12:19.14 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: No, the problem is that combat log parsing doesn't tell you who owns them |
| 12:19.23 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: it just says "water elemental frostbolt hits blah for x" |
| 12:19.27 | cncfanatics | hmmm true |
| 12:19.28 | Dustwhisper- | yes |
| 12:20.08 | Roartindon | I know that Assessment will end up attributing it all to one mage if merge pets is enabled |
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| 12:22.16 | cncfanatics | Perfect perfect |
| 12:22.19 | cncfanatics | its alive ! |
| 12:22.30 | Ominous | :) |
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| 12:23.07 | cncfanatics | think this will be the first actualy usable commit of fb |
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| 12:23.12 | cncfanatics | its inc, lemme make a commit message |
| 12:23.24 | Ominous | you mean an essay? |
| 12:23.37 | Ominous | :D |
| 12:26.38 | mitch0 | violation is using some events for the pet data, so as far as I know it records WE damage correctly |
| 12:26.57 | mitch0 | [ammo] could tell it for sure |
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| 12:28.05 | Roartindon | mitch0: Only if everyone is using violation |
| 12:28.24 | Roartindon | mitch0: It'll report your pet data accurately though |
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| 12:29.43 | CIA-23 | 03cncfanatics * r45883 10FlexBar2/ (6 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 12:29.43 | CIA-23 | FlexBar2: |
| 12:29.43 | CIA-23 | Core.lua: |
| 12:29.43 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.43 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.44 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.54 | cncfanatics | Ominous, yes my commit messages are essays, be happy they're trimmed tbh |
| 12:30.07 | Ominous | :) |
| 12:31.20 | cncfanatics | Ominous, feel free to try out |
| 12:31.28 | cncfanatics | there's no keybindings or anything yet though, and no stance changing |
| 12:31.57 | CIA-23 | 03pheredhel * r45884 10CCBreaker/ (6 files): |
| 12:31.57 | CIA-23 | CCBreaker: |
| 12:31.57 | CIA-23 | -added waterfall config |
| 12:31.57 | CIA-23 | -added filters for classes and raidroles (maintank,mainassist) |
| 12:31.57 | CIA-23 | -some speedups |
| 12:31.58 | CIA-23 | -moved librarys to embeds.xml |
| 12:32.00 | CIA-23 | -some minor bugfixes |
| 12:32.52 | mitch0 | roartindon: well, it's my data that is most important :) |
| 12:33.06 | Roartindon | mitch0: Absolutely |
| 12:33.14 | mitch0 | roartindon: besides, usually I'm the only (deep) frost mage on raid, so it's not such a big issue |
| 12:33.18 | Pheredhel | yay for svn being up again |
| 12:33.30 | mitch0 | although it would be nice if all other damage meter addons would use the vio-way of handling pet damage |
| 12:33.46 | mitch0 | (dunno how messy it is though) |
| 12:33.47 | Roartindon | mitch0: But if you're wondering how your other mages are doing with their WEs, nothing handles it accurately at the moment without other people also having it installed |
| 12:34.43 | mitch0 | well, the biggest problem is that most of my guildies run DamageMeters (if running anything at all...) |
| 12:35.02 | mitch0 | so most of our stats are pretty much random |
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| 12:38.04 | Elkano | oh, hi Pheredhel ^^ |
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| 12:38.04 | Punkie` | mitch0: I don't even think Violation records water elementals :P |
| 12:38.04 | mitch0 | it does |
| 12:38.04 | Pheredhel | hi |
| 12:38.04 | mitch0 | at least, it records your own |
| 12:38.04 | Punkie` | Look at the comments |
| 12:38.16 | Punkie` | -- Record hunter and warlock pets |
| 12:38.28 | Punkie` | -- Ignore pets of other classes |
| 12:38.43 | Punkie` | -- Link pets to master |
| 12:39.01 | mitch0 | punkie: it might be that WE is always merged, but it's recorded for sure |
| 12:39.12 | Roartindon | Punkie`: Despite the comments, the sourcecode looks like your own pet will always work |
| 12:39.27 | Roartindon | It looks like it'll ignore other mages water elementals, for example |
| 12:40.12 | Dustwhisper- | I run SWStats, Recount, Recap and my own at the moment |
| 12:40.20 | Dustwhisper- | they all showed the same dmg on me with WE merged |
| 12:40.25 | cncfanatics | Cyrez, ping |
| 12:40.31 | Dustwhisper- | but im very unsure if that was my WE on it's own or not |
| 12:40.58 | Dustwhisper- | if it was my WE alone |
| 12:41.03 | Dustwhisper- | then my WE supposedly did 140.000 DMG |
| 12:41.28 | mitch0 | that random number doens't tell anything :) |
| 12:41.44 | Roartindon | easier just to check if any of the other mages have WE damage attributed to them |
| 12:41.47 | mitch0 | if that was just 1 summon, then it's surely off |
| 12:41.48 | Dustwhisper- | in like 15-16 minutes |
| 12:41.56 | Dustwhisper- | no it wasnt one summon |
| 12:42.03 | Dustwhisper- | it was 2 in the first 3 minutes with coldsnap |
| 12:42.08 | mitch0 | my WE does approx 10k damage per summon if I recall correctly |
| 12:42.11 | Dustwhisper- | then chain cast it every time its up and everytime coldsnap was up |
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| 12:42.29 | Dustwhisper- | so in 15-16 minutes it should be 15/3 + 2 just about |
| 12:43.05 | Dustwhisper- | yepp looked now |
| 12:43.12 | Dustwhisper- | SWstats added around the same data to all mages |
| 12:43.18 | Dustwhisper- | I did a WWS compare to SWStats |
| 12:44.43 | mitch0 | blizz should really name these pets uniquely |
| 12:44.59 | Roartindon | mitch0: Nah, it should just provide better combat information. |
| 12:45.03 | mitch0 | like Caster's WE, or some silly name like those for imps and whatnot |
| 12:45.11 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r45885 10lern2count/Default/Trinity_Buttons.lua: lern2count: fix Trinity support |
| 12:45.22 | Roartindon | mitch0: It'll probably happen in 2.4 I'm guessing |
| 12:45.30 | mitch0 | roartindon: well, that would be teh awesomeness (especially w/ regards to Threat-1.0) |
| 12:46.12 | mitch0 | well, giving a random name for your WE should be a matter of copy-waste for them |
| 12:46.29 | cncfanatics | Cyrez where is he ? |
| 12:46.35 | cncfanatics | ~seen Cyrez |
| 12:46.43 | purl | cyrez is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 92 messages. Is idling for 1h 34m 50s, last said: 'I do my lady's talents for her.'. |
| 12:46.43 | Roartindon | yeah, naming the elemental Water Elemental (mage name) would be enough |
| 12:46.48 | Roartindon | as an interim solution I guess |
| 12:46.54 | mitch0 | yep |
| 12:47.09 | mitch0 | guess it was brought up alrady on the ui forums, and guess it was promptly ignored |
| 12:48.04 | mitch0 | btw, will these new inscriptions work in addition to enchants, or it will be either enchant or inscription? |
| 12:49.08 | cncfanatics | who knows |
| 12:49.15 | cncfanatics | I wont be playing then anymore anyway :p |
| 12:49.32 | mitch0 | go sulk in a corner |
| 12:49.34 | Ominous | why? |
| 12:50.43 | cncfanatics | WAR |
| 12:51.06 | cncfanatics | I hope the lua implentation is similar to blizzards, I wanne part FB :p |
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| 12:52.56 | Punkie` | mitch0: what do you mean? |
| 12:53.05 | Punkie` | enchants are to items and armor |
| 12:53.13 | Punkie` | inscription is to spells and abilities |
| 12:53.28 | cncfanatics | hmmm, when was the last time trac updated ? |
| 12:53.36 | Punkie` | 1 week ago if you look :P |
| 12:53.52 | cncfanatics | its an ehm, few commits, behind |
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| 12:54.36 | Xuerian | the repository's post-commit hooks were cleaned up, iirc. |
| 12:54.38 | baer_ | moin |
| 12:54.58 | baer_ | http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4742/hoggersp1.jpg <-- my ace2'd interface is finally ready :) |
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| 12:55.26 | Punkie` | grats2u |
| 12:55.35 | baer_ | many thanks :) |
| 12:56.14 | Diao | nice lookin UI |
| 12:56.26 | Diao | only thing i'd change is the minimap ;p |
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| 12:56.37 | Punkie` | Jeebus, have you downloaded half of files.wowace to get almost 60mib of memory usage?! :o |
| 12:57.05 | Xuerian | Pitbull and DogTag help a lot with memory numbers. ;p |
| 12:57.18 | Elkano | baer_, for EBB you most likely wont need the name on FuBar making mor room for FactionsFu displaying a faction |
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| 12:57.39 | Punkie` | Xuerian: Heh, yeah, my unitframes are only 55KiB :p |
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| 12:57.57 | Xuerian | Punkie`: Which are? |
| 12:58.07 | Punkie` | My own branch of oUF |
| 12:58.15 | Punkie` | damn good framework |
| 12:58.18 | baer_ | Elkano, right. i moved all stuff which is remaing to the right side bye now. |
| 12:58.22 | Xuerian | Aha |
| 12:58.25 | Silviu- | baer_ little big minimap :) |
| 12:59.02 | baer_ | Silviu-, i love large minimaps :) |
| 12:59.04 | Diao | and yeah i have like 60mb on load |
| 12:59.09 | Diao | as well |
| 12:59.10 | Silviu- | Omg ;( |
| 12:59.17 | Punkie` | man, what do you guys use? |
| 12:59.21 | Diao | i can't use the default minimap anymore |
| 12:59.24 | Diao | square minimaps ftw |
| 12:59.25 | Diao | uhh |
| 12:59.27 | Punkie` | mine is like 18MiB and it does everything I need |
| 12:59.31 | Diao | fubar with like 40 plugins |
| 12:59.35 | mitch0 | punkie: ah, that makes sense then. my question was stupid |
| 12:59.39 | Silviu- | Let me make a new screen |
| 12:59.43 | Diao | pitbull aloft cowtip cartographer |
| 12:59.52 | Diao | bartender3 skinner cycircled |
| 12:59.58 | Diao | grid buffalo2 |
| 13:00.00 | Punkie` | I use Aloft and Cartographer too |
| 13:00.15 | baer_ | Diao, simpleMinimap is just fine. |
| 13:00.29 | Punkie` | I found Buffalo to create a lot of garbage for some reason. |
| 13:00.35 | Diao | tattle arenapointer gladiator |
| 13:00.42 | Diao | buffalo or buffalo2? |
| 13:00.43 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r45886 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.lua locales/enUS.lua): WitchHunt: add emote toggle |
| 13:00.48 | Xuerian | I run at 30, but if I moved to oUF and removed atlasloot/atlas/yatlas (Yay stuff carto still can't do), it'd be a lot skinnier. |
| 13:00.49 | cncfanatics | Ominous, ping |
| 13:00.50 | Punkie` | Buffalo, I never used 2. |
| 13:00.55 | Diao | oh yeah |
| 13:00.59 | Diao | atlas/atlasloot as well |
| 13:01.06 | Diao | i had yatlas for a bit but never used it |
| 13:01.08 | Diao | so i removed it |
| 13:01.09 | Punkie` | Decided to switch to EEBs and it's doing what I want |
| 13:01.12 | Xuerian | <3 yatlas |
| 13:01.13 | Diao | uhh |
| 13:01.25 | Diao | auldlangsyne autobar automaton |
| 13:01.43 | Diao | bigwigs bulkmail buggrabber/bugsack |
| 13:01.46 | Punkie` | what does auldlangsyne even do? |
| 13:01.50 | Diao | clearfont |
| 13:01.51 | Diao | uhh |
| 13:01.53 | Diao | it's for friends lists |
| 13:01.58 | Diao | lets you sync between chars |
| 13:02.01 | Diao | and store extra data |
| 13:02.05 | Punkie` | ah ok |
| 13:02.07 | Xuerian | It gives a lot more information on friends list, list sync, and comments |
| 13:02.09 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-163-239.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 13:02.33 | Xuerian | It also has a fubar plugin I like more than friendsfu+guildfu >_> |
| 13:02.35 | Punkie` | BulkMail2 is quite nice, I use that :) |
| 13:02.38 | Diao | craftlist2, cooldowntimers 2, doodle, drdamage, errormonster |
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| 13:03.13 | Silviu- | http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080707160217ns2.jpg |
| 13:03.21 | Punkie` | Sometimes I just update from the SVN and an addon breaks, so I end up just making my own little one |
| 13:03.24 | *** join/#wowace Aenslaed (n=a@CPE00508da82991-CM0018c0b3e908.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 13:03.28 | Punkie` | GarbageFu for example :P |
| 13:03.32 | Diao | fizzle incubator inflight lightheaded littlewigs ludwig minichat mobhealth3 |
| 13:03.35 | Punkie` | My version is like 1KB |
| 13:03.47 | Neebler | who needs Errormonster when you can put 1 line of code into an addon you already have: UIErrorsFrame:Hide() |
| 13:03.49 | Xuerian | Which is the glory of making addons for yourself :p |
| 13:03.54 | Diao | lol |
| 13:03.59 | Diao | thing is neebler |
| 13:04.04 | Diao | i only want to hide specific things |
| 13:04.07 | Diao | not all ui errors |
| 13:04.14 | Neebler | ui errors are eeevil |
| 13:04.20 | Diao | well |
| 13:04.22 | Diao | i need to know stuff |
| 13:04.22 | Diao | like |
| 13:04.25 | Diao | when i'm out of range for attack |
| 13:04.27 | Diao | and such |
| 13:04.28 | Punkie` | I just use the one evl made, reroute things to the combatlog |
| 13:04.33 | Diao | but not when i'm low on rage |
| 13:04.37 | Silviu- | baer_ http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080707160217ns2.jpg new ;) a little ;p |
| 13:05.01 | Punkie` | Looks nice Silviu- :) |
| 13:05.12 | Silviu- | made some gradients finnaly i found how to do |
| 13:05.16 | Silviu- | :) |
| 13:05.17 | Diao | ora2 parrot prat quartz recount violation assessment sellfish |
| 13:05.25 | evl | Diao: http://code.google.com/p/evladdons/wiki/EvlSpamFilter |
| 13:05.28 | Diao | trinketmenu itemrack |
| 13:05.35 | Diao | visor witchhunt and xloot |
| 13:05.40 | Stan__ | Silviu-: was my config helpfull? |
| 13:05.40 | Diao | :P |
| 13:05.42 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (i=starfox@85.127.160.178) |
| 13:05.49 | Punkie` | I don't really understand CowTip, are you able to turn off the Keys or what? |
| 13:05.50 | Diao | ah |
| 13:05.53 | Diao | keys? |
| 13:05.55 | Diao | well evl |
| 13:05.57 | Xuerian | diao: Next time just dir > addons.txt >_> |
| 13:05.58 | Diao | i don't read combat log |
| 13:06.00 | Silviu- | Stan__ not really i watched the movie there and read the pdf ;p |
| 13:06.02 | Diao | lol |
| 13:06.08 | Stan__ | Silviu-: lol k^^ |
| 13:06.08 | Silviu- | Stan__ but yes u helped me with links ;) |
| 13:06.10 | Diao | Xuerian: that would have a lot longer listing ;) |
| 13:06.12 | Punkie` | You know... |
| 13:06.13 | Diao | due to all the LOD modules |
| 13:06.27 | Punkie` | like, Guild: Blah |
| 13:06.29 | Xuerian | pattern matching ftw |
| 13:06.31 | Punkie` | or Race: Blak |
| 13:06.36 | Punkie` | Blah even :p |
| 13:06.41 | Diao | oh |
| 13:06.44 | Punkie` | I kinda know Gnome is a race |
| 13:06.44 | Neebler | edit the line layout in cowtip |
| 13:06.44 | Diao | yeah |
| 13:06.45 | Xuerian | Though I suppose not much is Lib* anymore |
| 13:06.46 | Diao | you can |
| 13:06.49 | Xuerian | (*yet) |
| 13:06.53 | Diao | my layout for cowtip |
| 13:06.56 | Punkie` | well tinytip has yet to break :p |
| 13:07.06 | Diao | [Guild?Text([Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Fuchsia!Green][Guild:Angle])] |
| 13:07.08 | Diao | that's for guild |
| 13:07.11 | Diao | for example |
| 13:07.14 | Punkie` | Okay |
| 13:07.16 | Xuerian | Yeah, I still like tinytip better, I think. |
| 13:07.16 | Diao | without the Guild: |
| 13:07.27 | Diao | only thing i don't like about cowtip is lack of buff/debuff icons |
| 13:07.31 | Punkie` | you see, I don't feel the need to customise all those tags |
| 13:07.35 | Punkie` | that's just crazy |
| 13:07.37 | Diao | lol |
| 13:07.40 | Diao | you should see my uh |
| 13:07.46 | Diao | unit name tag |
| 13:07.50 | Diao | it's quite.. extensive |
| 13:08.02 | evl | Are you a hunter? |
| 13:08.06 | evl | They always have insanely spammy ui's |
| 13:08.08 | Diao | no |
| 13:08.09 | Diao | warrior |
| 13:08.11 | Silviu- | :) |
| 13:08.28 | evl | less is more, i'm a rogue and I need as much space for killing as I can get |
| 13:08.36 | Diao | lol |
| 13:08.36 | evl | one more frame, one more little slowdown makes me kill less |
| 13:08.37 | Punkie` | Although I am a bit of a sucker |
| 13:08.40 | Diao | not for warrior |
| 13:08.42 | Diao | we're limited by cooldowns |
| 13:08.44 | Diao | not GCD |
| 13:08.47 | Diao | so =) |
| 13:08.56 | Punkie` | I have Quartz just because I like it's craft merge :P |
| 13:09.00 | Diao | lol |
| 13:09.01 | evl | and we're not? :P |
| 13:09.07 | evl | <Diao> we're limited by cooldowns |
| 13:09.12 | Diao | well i mean |
| 13:09.12 | evl | met any rogues lately? :D |
| 13:09.14 | Diao | you're limited by energy |
| 13:09.18 | Diao | in terms of instant attacks |
| 13:09.23 | evl | yeah sure :) |
| 13:09.26 | Diao | while we have 6s/10s cd |
| 13:09.28 | evl | but we're nothing without our cooldowns I'm afraid |
| 13:09.29 | Diao | on MS/WW |
| 13:09.31 | Diao | yeah |
| 13:09.33 | Diao | i meant like |
| 13:09.36 | *** join/#wowace attumen (n=attumen@p54984392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:09.36 | Diao | in a speed situation |
| 13:09.39 | Punkie` | Diao: Spec improved slam! |
| 13:09.47 | Diao | lol |
| 13:09.56 | Diao | i'd rather |
| 13:09.57 | Diao | get the burst from |
| 13:10.00 | Diao | MS+queued HS |
| 13:10.03 | Diao | and then a WW right after |
| 13:10.07 | Punkie` | Do you only PvP? |
| 13:10.32 | Diao | no |
| 13:10.34 | Diao | i respec prot |
| 13:10.34 | Punkie` | because HS costs a LOT of rage |
| 13:10.35 | Diao | for pve |
| 13:10.49 | Punkie` | so it's a bit silly to use in PvE |
| 13:10.51 | Diao | yeah |
| 13:10.56 | Diao | i don't go MS for pve lol |
| 13:11.13 | Punkie` | yeah, but you could go 2h fury! |
| 13:11.14 | Chompers | i do :O |
| 13:11.17 | Diao | well |
| 13:11.18 | Diao | i could |
| 13:11.21 | Diao | if i specced 33/28 |
| 13:11.24 | Diao | but |
| 13:11.32 | Diao | i prefer full pvp 35/23/3 |
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| 13:11.37 | Chompers | holy |
| 13:11.40 | Chompers | multi |
| 13:11.41 | Chompers | line |
| 13:11.43 | Chompers | text |
| 13:11.44 | Chompers | batman |
| 13:11.52 | Diao | and then going fury or prot for pve |
| 13:11.53 | Diao | lol sorry |
| 13:11.58 | Diao | sometimes i just hit enter without thining |
| 13:12.03 | Punkie` | yeah me too usually |
| 13:12.06 | Diao | s/thining/thinking |
| 13:12.09 | Diao | meh |
| 13:12.12 | Diao | forgot the trailing slash |
| 13:12.12 | Diao | lol |
| 13:12.15 | Punkie` | I think it's due to MSN :p |
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| 13:12.36 | Xuerian | evl: Lite enough? http://i17.tinypic.com/4t6x2bs.jpg |
| 13:12.37 | Punkie` | Anyway, evl's UI is ugly. |
| 13:12.54 | Diao | whoa |
| 13:12.59 | Diao | what's with your unitframes o_o |
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| 13:13.12 | Punkie` | Looks a little like mine, although your UF suck! |
| 13:13.13 | evl | Punkie` :( |
| 13:13.23 | Punkie` | Portraits = waste of screen space :p |
| 13:13.41 | Xuerian | Punkie`: It's not like I'm short on that particular commodity :p |
| 13:13.57 | Punkie` | You say that now! |
| 13:14.00 | Leachim | Some loves, some not ;) I love them to, gives them some kind of personality for me^^ |
| 13:14.07 | Diao | lol |
| 13:14.11 | Diao | yeah i like portraits |
| 13:14.52 | Punkie` | let me upload my Ui 1 sec |
| 13:15.18 | Fisker- | sigh |
| 13:15.21 | Diao | my ui is.. clean ooc and very very cluttered ic |
| 13:15.33 | Punkie` | mine is quite clean IC |
| 13:15.51 | Punkie` | but i have widescreen which helps a lot |
| 13:16.01 | Fisker- | People just refuse to admit that the northrend worldmap is not an indication of it being revamped |
| 13:16.03 | Leachim | In my UI nothing changes except that a target and tot frame shows ic^^ |
| 13:16.08 | Punkie` | http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/yatta.jpg |
| 13:16.28 | Diao | is that your omen |
| 13:16.33 | Diao | drag out bar |
| 13:16.35 | Diao | or something |
| 13:16.37 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 13:16.42 | Diao | ah |
| 13:16.50 | Diao | what uh |
| 13:16.54 | Diao | skin are you using for omen |
| 13:17.03 | Punkie` | i dunno, i just fiddled with the options |
| 13:17.03 | Xuerian | Punkie`: Did you actually get the chat frames that small? |
| 13:17.05 | Diao | oh |
| 13:17.41 | Punkie` | Xuerian: huh? |
| 13:17.45 | Diao | i'm guessing you use SCL with filter set to only target and self? |
| 13:17.57 | Xuerian | Punkie`: Three lines of text, usually fcf limits it to 2x that hight\ |
| 13:18.02 | Punkie` | i dunno, i just use whatever it's defaulted to |
| 13:18.09 | Diao | ah |
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| 13:18.17 | Punkie` | Xuerian: setpoint! |
| 13:18.29 | Xuerian | Punkie`: Sneaky |
| 13:19.13 | dylanm | Punkie`: Is that oPanel and oMinimap that I see? |
| 13:19.40 | Punkie` | yep |
| 13:20.04 | Xuerian | Punkie`is a rogue, and needs as much Haste as possible ;P |
| 13:20.35 | Punkie` | nah, i just find he writes tiny addons that i can use and edit to my own desires |
| 13:22.08 | Punkie` | btw Kyahx's combat text is really awesome :) |
| 13:22.50 | Diao | what's that? :o |
| 13:23.05 | Punkie` | well it's blizzard combat text |
| 13:23.18 | Punkie` | but he wrote a small addon that changes it a little |
| 13:23.20 | Diao | oh |
| 13:23.21 | Diao | the FCT? |
| 13:23.25 | Punkie` | yep |
| 13:23.27 | Diao | ahic |
| 13:24.49 | Punkie` | I saw some guys UI screenshot with things like Arcane Intellect renamed in EBBs to 'Fucking Mana!!!111!'... dreadful |
| 13:24.54 | *** join/#wowace Kyahx (n=kyahx@mayo-nat4.mayo.edu) |
| 13:24.56 | Punkie` | I think it was on wowace actually :p |
| 13:25.05 | Diao | lol |
| 13:25.07 | Diao | oh ffs |
| 13:25.11 | Diao | i hate updating atlasloot with WAU |
| 13:25.15 | Diao | it keeps deleting the LoD modules |
| 13:25.19 | [Ammo] | why even use atlasloot? |
| 13:25.21 | Diao | and i keep forgetting to manually readd them |
| 13:25.22 | [Ammo] | get cartographer |
| 13:25.35 | Diao | i do use cartographer |
| 13:25.45 | Diao | but |
| 13:25.50 | Diao | atlasloot provides a centralized search |
| 13:25.53 | dylanm | Carto's implementation is a bit... eh. |
| 13:25.56 | Punkie` | [Ammo]: but it's on the SVN, it automatically makes it awesome. |
| 13:25.58 | Diao | so i can just browse through the database |
| 13:26.01 | Pkekyo | AXEMURDER WITH A PAPERCLIP! |
| 13:26.12 | Diao | rather than going through cartographer |
| 13:26.13 | Punkie` | Diao: Just get PT3Browser? :P |
| 13:26.15 | Diao | and searching for the instance |
| 13:26.18 | Diao | er |
| 13:26.22 | [Ammo] | yeah get pt3browser |
| 13:26.24 | Diao | is pt3browser sorted by drop location |
| 13:26.31 | Diao | or rep factions |
| 13:26.34 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 13:26.36 | Punkie` | i think |
| 13:26.36 | [Ammo] | you can get it sorted by whatever the fuck you want |
| 13:26.39 | Diao | oh |
| 13:26.44 | Kyahx | pt3 is what "powers" carto's DB anyways |
| 13:26.45 | [Ammo] | (limited to the pt3 sets) |
| 13:26.56 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 13:27.27 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 13:27.31 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 13150 HP; 13324 Armour; 642 AP; 111.9 Melee DPS; 10.41% melee crit; 45 melee hit; 303 defense; 18.35% dodge; 23.15% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytatlc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okjqb ]] |
| 13:27.45 | Diao | ah |
| 13:27.51 | Grum | Pkekyo: your lvl60 tank-gear? ;D |
| 13:28.23 | Stan__ | !c eu zirkel des cenarius Arcádia |
| 13:28.23 | ThraeBot | Stan__: Arcádia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 13:28.27 | Stan__ | :( |
| 13:28.45 | Grum | !c eu zirkel+des+cenarius Arcádia |
| 13:28.48 | ThraeBot | Grum: Arcádia, Level 70 Human Priest (9/0/52). 6961 HP; 7830 Mana; 173 mana regen; 2 mp5; 194 spell crit; 18 spell hit; 399 +spell dmg; 423 +heal; 107 frost dmg (506); 107 shadow dmg (506); 4.9% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqp35a ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2myqa9 ]] |
| 13:28.51 | Stan__ | weee |
| 13:28.52 | Stan__ | thx |
| 13:28.55 | Grum | ;) |
| 13:29.17 | Grum | hmmm shadoompriest |
| 13:29.19 | *** join/#wowace nahkiss (i=nahkiss@dsl-hkibras1-ff4dc300-7.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 13:29.31 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer tranq |
| 13:29.34 | ThraeBot | Grum: Tranq, Level 70 Human Priest (14/0/47). 8321 HP; 7935 Mana; 151 mana regen; 23 mp5; 98 spell crit; 89 spell hit; 969 +spell dmg/heal; 129 frost dmg (1098); 180 shadow dmg (1149); 4.98% dodge; 12 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27mlhy ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2stukp ]] |
| 13:30.18 | Stan__ | hm |
| 13:30.18 | Grum | i dont get the '180 shadow dmg (1149)' |
| 13:30.31 | nevcairiel | its 180 shadow, and 1149 in total on shadow |
| 13:30.31 | Grum | why not: +shadow 1149 |
| 13:30.36 | Grum | ah |
| 13:30.50 | Stan__ | Grum: damn epic people :P |
| 13:31.06 | Grum | Stan__: ah yeah our 'best' shadoompriest |
| 13:31.09 | Stan__ | I need to farm more primal water.. |
| 13:31.18 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer scruples |
| 13:31.21 | ThraeBot | Grum: Scruples, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (16/0/45). 7481 HP; 8250 Mana; 166 mana regen; 41 mp5; 89 spell crit; 108 spell hit; 705 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (884); 257 shadow dmg (962); 4.82% dodge; 28 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bza3q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wpj7h ]] |
| 13:31.29 | Stan__ | holy... |
| 13:31.34 | Stan__ | crap |
| 13:31.36 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas blackbierd |
| 13:31.39 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Blackbierd, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 9811 HP; 8325 Mana; 125 mana regen; 19 mp5; 20 spell crit; 57 spell hit; 770 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (824); 105 shadow dmg (875); 4.82% dodge; 374 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dwzy4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ojmjg ]] |
| 13:31.44 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 13:31.48 | nevcairiel | damn he was in pvp equip |
| 13:31.50 | Grum | 1200-1300 shadowdmg is doable |
| 13:31.53 | Grum | yeah same for scruples :) |
| 13:32.11 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer thiesthal |
| 13:32.14 | ThraeBot | Grum: Thiesthal, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/40/21). 8920 HP; 8539 Mana; 113 mana regen; 199 spell crit; 140 spell hit; 1216 +spell dmg; 57 frost dmg (1273); 57 shadow dmg (1273); 4.59% dodge; 25 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2clpnj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37vfsz ]] |
| 13:32.25 | Grum | that one is more decent .. 1273 shadooom :) |
| 13:32.26 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas sonja |
| 13:32.29 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Sonja, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (41/0/20). 7870 HP; 8560 Mana; 107 mana regen; 195 spell crit; 200 spell hit; 949 +spell dmg/heal; 72 frost dmg (1021); 123 shadow dmg (1072); 4.47% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dhvjk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38rloj ]] |
| 13:32.45 | Grum | nevcairiel: link me your best priest (holy) |
| 13:32.45 | nevcairiel | that surprises me, he outperforms all mages, wouldve thought he has more |
| 13:32.56 | Grum | she's affliction |
| 13:33.03 | Grum | so that is 800-900dps eyes closed =D |
| 13:33.16 | nevcairiel | every raiding warlock should be affliction |
| 13:33.20 | nevcairiel | we have one destro i think |
| 13:33.32 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas arcains |
| 13:33.35 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Arcains, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (28/33/0). 9581 HP; 8550 Mana; 221 mana regen; 82 mp5; 12 spell hit; 96 +spell dmg; 1451 +heal; 5.09% dodge; 379 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ahzpu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35r8ut ]] |
| 13:33.36 | nevcairiel | ^ best holy |
| 13:33.41 | nevcairiel | in pvp gear |
| 13:33.41 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 13:33.49 | Grum | yeah i want to see good raid-gear |
| 13:33.57 | Elkano | !c eu mannoroth isdirial |
| 13:34.00 | ThraeBot | Elkano: Isdirial, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 12124 HP; 4475 Mana; 115 mana regen; 17 mp5; 21710 Armour; 1123 AP; 148.5 Melee DPS; 22.11% melee crit; 14 melee hit; 145 defense; 22.76% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ys48m7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34zqtm ]] |
| 13:34.13 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer neriah |
| 13:34.14 | Grum | our mt |
| 13:34.16 | ThraeBot | Grum: Neriah, Level 70 Gnome Warrior (8/5/48). 15944 HP; 15930 Armour; 792 AP; 142.6 Melee DPS; 13.98% melee crit; 21 melee hit; 334 defense; 23.17% dodge; 27.35% block; 45 shadow resist; +25 all resists (+10 arcane); [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bgxtx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36poxw ]] |
| 13:34.24 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas Davén |
| 13:34.25 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Davén is not the character you are looking for! |
| 13:34.28 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 13:34.47 | nevcairiel | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Dav%C3%A9n |
| 13:34.48 | nevcairiel | whatever |
| 13:34.52 | Grum | oh damn .. our shadowpriest specced melee recently ;D |
| 13:34.53 | [Ammo] | !c eu kazzak flappenstein |
| 13:34.56 | ThraeBot | [Ammo]: Flappenstein, Level 70 Gnome Warrior (10/5/46). 13774 HP; 16202 Armour; 682 AP; 134.9 Melee DPS; 12.32% melee crit; 17 melee hit; 377 defense; 24.33% dodge; 28.45% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25eq7g ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xogcf ]] |
| 13:35.04 | Grum | he got upto ~110dps with his dagger ;D |
| 13:35.05 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas tatjanai |
| 13:35.07 | nevcairiel | our mt |
| 13:35.08 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Tatjanai, Level 70 Human Warrior (8/10/43). 16074 HP; 16225 Armour; 768 AP; 156.6 Melee DPS; 15.34% melee crit; 28 melee hit; 15 +spell dmg/heal; 378 defense; 25.66% dodge; 27.31% block; +33 all resists; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2x4nva ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2see39 ]] |
| 13:35.36 | Stan__ | Armory got serious problems with umlauts |
| 13:35.49 | Grum | nevcairiel: your MT is rather close to ours tbh |
| 13:35.56 | Elkano | Stan__, UTF8 most likely |
| 13:35.56 | Grum | or actually other way around since you have progressed further :) |
| 13:36.10 | Grum | !c eu antonidas Dav%C3%A9n |
| 13:36.13 | ThraeBot | Grum: Davén, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (23/38/0). 7181 HP; 9405 Mana; 386 mana regen; 141 mp5; 116 +spell dmg; 1921 +heal; 5.42% dodge; 61 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27z326 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32rq75 ]] |
| 13:36.20 | Wobin | !c eu antonidas Dav%C3%A9n |
| 13:36.20 | ThraeBot | Wobin: I just said that 10s ago. |
| 13:36.21 | Elkano | and I need a bunch more stamina :/ time to get those +12 gems |
| 13:36.45 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer yoshette |
| 13:36.48 | Grum | second mt |
| 13:36.48 | ThraeBot | Grum: Yoshette, Level 70 Human Warrior (5/5/51). 13664 HP; 15568 Armour; 772 AP; 141.2 Melee DPS; 11.46% melee crit; 17 melee hit; 366 defense; 19.74% dodge; 25.2% block; 5 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ysk669 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35yodo ]] |
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| 13:37.00 | Pkekyo | Grum: no, it's my lvl 70 tanking gear, but it's not displaying stats correctly |
| 13:37.06 | Elkano | that would be about 96 more stamina not including bear bonus... that should help a bit |
| 13:37.11 | Grum | Pkekyo: odd :( |
| 13:37.25 | Grum | oh lets see if our bear logged out as bear :D |
| 13:37.28 | Elkano | oh wait, your tanks are buffed |
| 13:37.30 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer johngalt |
| 13:37.34 | ThraeBot | Grum: Johngalt, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/50/11). 10124 HP; 6095 Mana; 125 mana regen; 5987 Armour; 794 AP; 138.7 Melee DPS; 16.21% melee crit; 44 melee hit; 13 +heal; 81 defense; 29.13% dodge; 20 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27pcpv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2swltm ]] |
| 13:37.42 | Pkekyo | I have 498 defense...thrae showed only 303 |
| 13:37.44 | Elkano | 6k so no |
| 13:37.51 | nevcairiel | !c eu antonidas nayfal |
| 13:37.52 | nevcairiel | ^feral |
| 13:37.53 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nayfal, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 9864 HP; 6155 Mana; 127 mana regen; 19 mp5; 5731 Armour; 1230 AP; 174 Melee DPS; 27.3% melee crit; 83 melee hit; 20 +heal; 41.17% dodge; 27 resilience; +33 all resists (+10 nature); [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrvayx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34cs8f ]] |
| 13:37.56 | Grum | 16k is basic buffs |
| 13:37.57 | Elkano | thrae shows rating, not def itself |
| 13:38.05 | Grum | 18k-18.5k is fully |
| 13:38.46 | Grum | !c eu magtheridon kungen |
| 13:38.49 | ThraeBot | Grum: Kungen, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 18736 HP; 19776 Armour; 616 AP; 150 Melee DPS; 11.32% melee crit; 55 melee hit; 399 defense; 28.44% dodge; 28.9% block; 20 resilience; +33 all resists (+10 nature); [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypvejw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2l84ov ]] |
| 13:38.54 | Elkano | im at 411 def and that's not that bad as a bear I think |
| 13:38.54 | Grum | still missing 1 item i think .. but that is plain madness :) |
| 13:39.03 | nevcairiel | Elkano: its enough ;) |
| 13:39.09 | Stan__ | I went 70 only 8 days ago..so there's no need to be imba by now :P |
| 13:39.24 | Grum | well actually .. ;D |
| 13:39.30 | Elkano | well, Earthwarden will help a bit as soon as I have it but T4 will remove the clefthoof bonuses |
| 13:39.31 | Grum | nevcairiel: do you have a nice SV hunter to show? |
| 13:39.43 | nevcairiel | what do i know which hunter is specced what.. |
| 13:40.06 | nevcairiel | our best is BM |
| 13:40.08 | nevcairiel | i know that |
| 13:40.13 | nevcairiel | other then that, if MM or SV |
| 13:40.15 | nevcairiel | no idea :P |
| 13:40.26 | Grum | hehe |
| 13:40.34 | Grum | i've seen some SV hunters have ~900agi orso :) |
| 13:41.00 | nevcairiel | actually, i clicked through all our hunters |
| 13:41.01 | nevcairiel | no SV |
| 13:41.07 | nevcairiel | 2 BM 2 MM |
| 13:41.14 | Elkano | Grum, did that char strip all nonepic stuff or why is he missing a ring? ;) |
| 13:41.25 | Grum | Elkano: you mean Kungen? |
| 13:41.34 | Grum | he has gear that doesnt show in the armory yet |
| 13:41.44 | Grum | he was missing like 4-5 parts and now just the ring |
| 13:41.50 | Stan__ | lol |
| 13:41.55 | Grum | which is likely the last reputation one from MH orso |
| 13:42.08 | Stan__ | is that T6 he's wearing? |
| 13:42.19 | Grum | but seriously those stats .. lol! ... 19k hp, 20k armor .. that is mad |
| 13:42.29 | Elkano | oh, Nihilium... ok, that explains everything ^^ |
| 13:42.29 | Grum | yeah from the #1 guild on the globe =) |
| 13:42.32 | Grum | yup :D |
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| 13:43.05 | nevcairiel | why doesnt it surprise me that he got the scarab lord title.. |
| 13:43.07 | Megalon | guildmaster and maintank of nihilum ;x |
| 13:43.13 | Grum | yeah indeed nevcairiel |
| 13:43.20 | Grum | seriously that dude is overgeared |
| 13:43.27 | Grum | would be fun to take him into a nub instance |
| 13:43.33 | Grum | and watch him struggle holding aggro ;D |
| 13:43.45 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:44.00 | Grum | seriously .. warriors are kinda .. crap when ubergeared :( |
| 13:44.12 | Grum | our MT hardly can keep aggro on heroics if we take some of our better dps |
| 13:44.23 | nevcairiel | same |
| 13:44.29 | nevcairiel | no rage |
| 13:44.37 | Grum | it's less with druids tbh |
| 13:44.46 | Grum | you take more hits but less dmg on each hit |
| 13:44.47 | Elkano | reminds me when I was running my 1st BC instance with a full T3 equiped tank as MT... after wiping at the first boss he told me to tank since he couldn't hold aggro ^^ |
| 13:44.57 | xyu | hah yep |
| 13:44.57 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:45.00 | jme | Cryect: re the av pic, hehe |
| 13:45.13 | Stan__ | why is there a headpice that is better than T6 O.o |
| 13:45.21 | Stan__ | I thought T6 are the best you can get |
| 13:45.24 | Grum | ofc not |
| 13:45.36 | Grum | but define 'better' |
| 13:45.44 | xyu | it's always been a "set vs non set" world |
| 13:45.50 | xyu | there'll be comparable items in both |
| 13:45.52 | Stan__ | 82 stamina |
| 13:45.57 | Stan__ | against 48 |
| 13:45.59 | Stan__ | in T6 |
| 13:46.05 | Grum | class? |
| 13:46.09 | Stan__ | Warrior |
| 13:46.15 | Elkano | does nihilium have a bear tank? |
| 13:46.20 | Grum | not sure |
| 13:46.21 | Stan__ | I'm talkin about Kungens headpiece |
| 13:46.25 | Grum | oh |
| 13:46.41 | jme | Elkano: http://armory.wow-europe.com/guild-info.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Nihilum&p=1 |
| 13:47.01 | Stan__ | Elkano: Starym |
| 13:47.02 | Megalon | even the t6 dps helm got more stam than the tanking helm :c |
| 13:47.10 | Grum | lol check what it drops from |
| 13:47.18 | Stan__ | Grum: illidan |
| 13:47.35 | Stan__ | Elkano: hm no, sry |
| 13:47.36 | jme | Starym is a warrior |
| 13:47.42 | Stan__ | yeaah |
| 13:47.45 | jme | Rulah might be their bear tank |
| 13:47.59 | jme | the other two higher ranked ones are resto |
| 13:48.12 | jme | afk |
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| 13:51.24 | Elkano | ok, Rulah is ^^ |
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| 13:53.27 | mitch0 | is there a macro condition to test agains pvp target? |
| 13:53.41 | mitch0 | like, [harm,playercontrolled]? |
| 13:54.37 | Kyahx | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro#Conditionals -- Don't think so |
| 13:54.38 | nevcairiel | no |
| 13:54.43 | nevcairiel | there is only harm |
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| 14:07.19 | ccKep | how do guilds put out THAT much dps on single-target fights http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?fight=2339 ? |
| 14:07.29 | ccKep | (just wondering if rage has an ability I don't know of Oo) |
| 14:09.32 | Grum | 3 minutes for 3.5m dmg |
| 14:09.43 | ccKep | I just don't get it |
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| 14:09.58 | ccKep | we had our first kill there yesterday and I wanted to compare our dps |
| 14:10.20 | ccKep | we had 12k raid dps, don't know how they can reach 18-21k Oo |
| 14:10.50 | Tornhoof | better equip |
| 14:10.58 | Tornhoof | that rogue has that legendary illidan mainhand ;) |
| 14:10.59 | jme | yeah, that's about it |
| 14:11.03 | JY|Scree1 | ttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Furi |
| 14:11.09 | Rccsv | ccKep, it's all about the gear. It's not exactly Blood Legion's first kill :) |
| 14:11.09 | ccKep | I don't only mean the first report |
| 14:11.10 | JY|Scree1 | +h |
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| 14:11.19 | jme | Furi has both of the illidan blades |
| 14:11.21 | JY|Scree1 | he has illidan legendary |
| 14:11.23 | Rccsv | Tornhoof, doesn't have have the offhand too, now? |
| 14:11.41 | jme | they're just combined into one blade on the armory |
| 14:11.56 | ccKep | armory is buggy and doesn't show offhand ^.^ |
| 14:11.58 | Tornhoof | both? |
| 14:12.01 | jme | yes |
| 14:12.01 | Tornhoof | nice |
| 14:12.05 | ccKep | but it shows it on the tooltip |
| 14:12.10 | jme | he completed them last week iirc, wowinsider and worldofraids had a post about it |
| 14:12.11 | JY|Scree1 | SS crit 3k |
| 14:12.11 | Tornhoof | yah armory has no offhand yet |
| 14:12.38 | jme | and i mentioned it to someone in his guild in an EotS :o |
| 14:12.56 | Grum | 2300dps .. that is .. mad |
| 14:13.02 | Tornhoof | no not really |
| 14:13.07 | Tornhoof | not with both legendaries |
| 14:13.09 | Grum | is that some boss with enhanched melee dmg orso? |
| 14:13.15 | ccKep | no |
| 14:13.20 | Grum | it is - check other bosses - he does 1350 aboutish |
| 14:13.45 | Grum | which should be what he has with that kind of mad gear |
| 14:14.08 | ccKep | even our rogues do more dps on other bosses, rage has no enhanced melee dmg or so (not that I know of) |
| 14:14.25 | Grum | what is normal dps for rogues in your stats then? |
| 14:14.27 | ccKep | rage even has frost armor |
| 14:14.28 | Grum | 1400-1600 orso? |
| 14:14.31 | ccKep | which reduces melee attack speed |
| 14:14.41 | Grum | he only has 3.5m hitpoints? |
| 14:14.47 | ccKep | what encounter shall I look for reference? |
| 14:14.52 | Tornhoof | with both legendaries he should hit 1.8k |
| 14:15.29 | Grum | dunno |
| 14:15.36 | Grum | something simple where they can do dps like mad |
| 14:15.38 | Grum | lurker orso |
| 14:15.52 | Grum | hmm that is more a caster friendly fight |
| 14:16.01 | ccKep | morogrim? |
| 14:16.16 | Grum | oh yeah they are slapping him nonstop as well |
| 14:16.28 | Tornhoof | morogrim is |
| 14:16.31 | Grum | but i cant really compare that to my own guild as we havent killed him =D |
| 14:16.37 | ccKep | hope I still have a report of him, lemme look |
| 14:17.06 | Tornhoof | considering the remaining group setup |
| 14:17.11 | jme | i guess i shouldn't neglect to get my hunter geared in pve gear |
| 14:17.26 | Tornhoof | the dps looks like dual bloodlust too |
| 14:17.39 | Grum | how does one get that? |
| 14:17.42 | Grum | dps warriors? |
| 14:17.50 | ccKep | man, wws had an encounter slit-up a while ago.. why did they remove that? -.- |
| 14:17.56 | Tornhoof | two enh shamans in his group |
| 14:18.00 | JY|Scree1 | mmh he had feral and enh shaman in his group |
| 14:18.11 | Tornhoof | atleast oen feral |
| 14:18.14 | Tornhoof | atleast one enh |
| 14:18.16 | jme | i *might* have a chance to get it geared in both full S2 gear and T4 |
| 14:18.23 | jme | before woltk |
| 14:18.25 | Tornhoof | considering the remaining setup, he probably had both in his group |
| 14:18.27 | jme | err, wotlk |
| 14:18.32 | ccKep | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=d2p612jvmcf1c&s=6780-7164 <<< was a german combatlog though, since I had to create an interface for a guildie who doesn't use en-client |
| 14:19.11 | sb | ccKep: uhm - there is encounter split up? |
| 14:19.20 | Bruners | http://thismight.be/offensive/uploads/2007/08/07/image/Can%20only%20hold%20it%20for%20so%20long.gif rofl |
| 14:19.20 | ccKep | no, I mean in the account options |
| 14:19.26 | sb | oh hm |
| 14:19.29 | ccKep | do you have an account there? |
| 14:19.35 | sb | yep - but 'free' |
| 14:19.38 | ccKep | yeah me too |
| 14:19.47 | ccKep | if you click on your name at the top right and go to "Reports" |
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| 14:19.52 | sb | yup |
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| 14:19.54 | ccKep | then you see your hosted reports |
| 14:19.59 | ccKep | they used to have an encounter list there too |
| 14:20.01 | sb | click on guild history |
| 14:20.17 | ccKep | AJJ |
| 14:20.19 | ccKep | thanks xD |
| 14:20.57 | Grum | ccKep: damn i can only dream of people doing that kind of dps |
| 14:21.13 | ccKep | well, warlocks using SoC |
| 14:21.33 | ccKep | and rogue had heroism twice |
| 14:22.00 | JY|Scree1 | strange they had 31/30 warrior |
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| 14:23.55 | ccKep | I heard of a place where hunters can solo kite trashes in BT.. anyone know where that is? |
| 14:24.23 | Grum | ccKep: yeah but still .. cmon .. it's like mad |
| 14:24.25 | ccKep | not yet been in there, just got attuned yesterday.. but I'm curious xD |
| 14:24.36 | Grum | we do like 1100 at the max (our hunters/locks) |
| 14:24.36 | ccKep | I'm not a hunter anyway |
| 14:24.37 | sb | meh wtb moer dps |
| 14:24.43 | Grum | and the rest is 900-600 |
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| 14:24.52 | Grum | and even people as low as 350 :/ |
| 14:25.06 | ccKep | 350 isn't a dpser imho? |
| 14:25.08 | ashai|hc | Grum: we have that issue |
| 14:25.15 | ashai|hc | yeah 350 is poor |
| 14:25.19 | sb | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=k5kkfblryopsm&s=5636-6154 <-- ccKep: look here :/ |
| 14:25.23 | ccKep | I can put out 350 I think, and I'm resto shaman xD |
| 14:25.24 | Grum | i can do 350 on my holy priest |
| 14:25.48 | ccKep | karathress got movement involved |
| 14:25.50 | Grum | we have a lock and shadowpriest capable of that |
| 14:25.52 | ashai|hc | fathomlord isnt really a good example |
| 14:26.03 | ccKep | there are many ways to improve dps on karathress |
| 14:26.13 | ccKep | but some of them push the healers to their limits |
| 14:26.19 | ccKep | like, tanking some adds on the same spot |
| 14:26.22 | Grum | mm is that the one with the 4 adds? |
| 14:26.27 | ccKep | yeah |
| 14:26.32 | Grum | or 3 adds actually |
| 14:26.33 | sb | ccKep: hunter and shaman for us |
| 14:27.00 | ccKep | we tank them all in different corners |
| 14:27.04 | ccKep | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=d2p612jvmcf1c&s=9196-9592 |
| 14:27.23 | Grum | that seems to be the normal way |
| 14:27.26 | ccKep | and then we do hunter -> shaman -> priest -> karathress |
| 14:27.29 | sb | yeah... look at rogue dps :/ |
| 14:27.32 | sb | yup, same here |
| 14:27.37 | ccKep | that rogue was on the priest the whole time |
| 14:27.39 | ccKep | with me and a tank |
| 14:27.44 | Grum | i wish we could get hydross on farm |
| 14:27.44 | ccKep | to kick / earth shock the heals |
| 14:28.10 | ccKep | we also had a kill with <9k raid dps |
| 14:28.26 | ccKep | so, your 10k isn all that bad |
| 14:28.35 | ashai|hc | WWS needs HPS tbh :P |
| 14:28.56 | sb | hm okay its 8 healer vs 7 healer |
| 14:29.02 | ccKep | dunno what your warlocks did there @ sb |
| 14:29.11 | Grum | it has ashai|hc |
| 14:29.17 | ccKep | 587 dps and 557 dps... thats not what I know from our locks :o |
| 14:29.20 | Grum | click on a healer and it shows hps for that slice |
| 14:29.27 | sb | ccKep: i have no idea :/ |
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| 14:29.46 | ashai|hc | ahh so it does |
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| 14:29.58 | ccKep | what the heck |
| 14:30.01 | ccKep | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=k5kkfblryopsm&s=5636-6154&a=2 |
| 14:30.01 | CIA-23 | 03mitchell * r45887 10RangeDisplay/ (RangeDisplay.toc localization-frFR.lua): RangeDisplay: added frFR localizations by |Pixel|. Thanks! |
| 14:30.15 | ccKep | does he randomly push his buttons? (incinerate <-> shadowbolt?) |
| 14:30.16 | jme | what's the site that does the armory scans for guild progression... |
| 14:30.18 | sb | ccKep: yup... kick him :p |
| 14:30.52 | ccKep | ah, german guild :D |
| 14:30.53 | sb | that guy failed to kill his inner deamon yesterday :/ |
| 14:30.59 | jme | wowjutsu, nevermind |
| 14:31.56 | Dustwhisper- | looking at our last lurker/VR/al'ar |
| 14:31.59 | Dustwhisper- | i dont see anyone hitting over 1k dps |
| 14:32.09 | Grum | not on Lurker? |
| 14:32.16 | jme | anyone here on mal'ganis? |
| 14:32.17 | Dustwhisper- | 800-900 seems to be top for most |
| 14:32.18 | jme | US |
| 14:32.39 | Dustwhisper- | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=obvwylxsbt1pk |
| 14:32.40 | Grum | hmm our top mage did 917 at lurker |
| 14:32.43 | Dustwhisper- | is from lurker |
| 14:33.01 | ashai|hc | you have a dps class that didnt kill his inner demon? |
| 14:33.07 | ccKep | armory buggy for me, can't look at Sunfirex equip :/ |
| 14:33.13 | Dustwhisper- | haha we had that ashai|hc |
| 14:33.14 | ashai|hc | was he asleep? |
| 14:33.17 | Dustwhisper- | a mage that died to his inner demon |
| 14:33.19 | Dustwhisper- | i think twice |
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| 14:33.31 | Grum | our horrible night yesterday: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=itn3ildu6csbk&s=2872-3688&m |
| 14:33.35 | Gagorian | our top dps did 1193 dps on lurker, top mage 1013 unbuffed |
| 14:33.43 | Dustwhisper- | Hmm |
| 14:33.58 | Dustwhisper- | can you give me his armory profile |
| 14:33.59 | sb | ccKep: uhm... http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khaz%27goroth&n=Sunfirex - works |
| 14:34.05 | ccKep | no tooltips for me |
| 14:34.05 | Gagorian | Dustwhisper-: The mage? |
| 14:34.09 | Dustwhisper- | i wanna see how he's doing 100 more dps than me unbuffed |
| 14:34.10 | ccKep | (firefox) |
| 14:34.10 | Dustwhisper- | yes the mage |
| 14:34.11 | mikma | oh sheet! |
| 14:34.11 | sb | mh working here |
| 14:34.14 | sb | firefox :o |
| 14:34.17 | Grum | !c eu Khaz%27goroth& Sunfirex |
| 14:34.20 | ThraeBot | Grum: Sunfirex, Level 70 Undead Warlock (0/21/40). 10115 HP; 10362 Mana; 106 mana regen; 179 spell crit; 118 spell hit; 969 +spell dmg; 54 frost dmg (1023); 54 shadow dmg (1023); 4.28% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2f5dkf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3af3pe ]] |
| 14:34.36 | Gagorian | Dustwhisper-: He quit raiding for three months and came back yesterday |
| 14:34.39 | Gagorian | So his gear is outdated |
| 14:34.40 | jme | woot 4.28% dodge |
| 14:34.48 | Dustwhisper- | how the hell does he hit 1k dps then |
| 14:34.53 | Dustwhisper- | unbuffed |
| 14:34.55 | Gagorian | But here: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Al'Akir&n=Vahu |
| 14:35.11 | jme | spam seed of corruption? |
| 14:35.24 | sb | SoC on lurker? wtf? :p |
| 14:35.33 | jme | i know nosssing |
| 14:35.40 | jme | <- kara nub |
| 14:35.53 | ccKep | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=wqbgh6hgmn6gg&s=3305-3794 |
| 14:36.03 | ashai|hc | last night was funny |
| 14:36.12 | ashai|hc | MT died at gruul |
| 14:36.22 | Grum | yeah same here ... 4 times O.o |
| 14:36.22 | ashai|hc | our offtank was tanking from 20% |
| 14:36.37 | Grum | that's fun - people sacrificing to keep him alive =D |
| 14:36.50 | ashai|hc | he killed all melee 3-4 healers kept the OT up taking hatefuls and 15 grows :P |
| 14:36.53 | sb | lurker #1 is elemental shaman here :o |
| 14:36.55 | ccKep | !c eu Blackhand Jaffar |
| 14:36.57 | Dustwhisper- | oh |
| 14:36.59 | Dustwhisper- | arcane mage |
| 14:36.59 | ThraeBot | ccKep: Jaffar, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/21/40). 8868 HP; 7890 Mana; 110 mana regen; 101 spell crit; 191 spell hit; 916 +spell dmg/heal; 111 frost dmg (1027); 233 shadow dmg (1149); 4.36% dodge; 18 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2h6t97 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cgje6 ]] |
| 14:37.14 | ccKep | seems to be same spec then sunfirex @ sb |
| 14:37.45 | Dustwhisper- | !c EU Blackhand Ska |
| 14:37.48 | ThraeBot | Dustwhisper-: Ska, Level 70 Human Mage (49/12/0). 6823 HP; 9356 Mana; 168 mana regen; 25 mp5; 333 spell crit; 90 spell hit; 785 +spell dmg; 123 frost dmg (908); 345 arcane dmg (1130); 345 fire dmg (1130); 5.26% dodge; 11 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27uhyd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33776c ]] |
| 14:38.25 | sb | ccKep: and gear seams to be the ~same |
| 14:38.32 | jme | were you guys exalted with the violet eye before you got all the gear you needed from kara? |
| 14:38.36 | sb | ccKep: only hit <> crit differs |
| 14:38.38 | Stan__ | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=643.0 <- Interesting |
| 14:38.45 | Stan__ | Naxx moving to northend..O.o |
| 14:39.27 | jme | i am past revered and i have not seen half the drops i need even drop |
| 14:39.43 | jme | not that that means anything |
| 14:39.47 | ashai|hc | jme violet eye rep is damn fast |
| 14:40.04 | jme | ashai|hc: so it seems |
| 14:41.31 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r45888 10lern2count/Default/Trinity_Buttons.lua: lern2count: remove the hook for Trinity Bars, as it seems the function does not exists anymore |
| 14:43.31 | jme | heh.. i still need my bracers, boots, gloves, helm, legacy, and sunfury from kara |
| 14:44.08 | Grum | huntar! ;D |
| 14:44.34 | jme | yeah |
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| 14:59.20 | Mellow_ | Grum: have you ever seen fin_wait1? |
| 15:00.30 | nevcairiel | did you guys read the LFG Comic ? I just dicovered it, and its amazing |
| 15:00.36 | hamunaptra | hi guys... is there an elegant way of doing the following: I've got two arrays with values and want to any of the values in array1 are in array2 two? |
| 15:00.54 | hamunaptra | (missing "see" there) |
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| 15:01.26 | Mellow_ | and anybody else using rrdtool? |
| 15:01.26 | Grum | Mellow_: quewhat? :) |
| 15:01.57 | nevcairiel | i did once |
| 15:01.59 | nevcairiel | but its been some time |
| 15:02.24 | Grum | i aim not to use it |
| 15:02.27 | Mellow_ | Grum: tcp 0 69 193.221.95.164:44600 68.35.144.135:20772 FIN_WAIT1 |
| 15:03.14 | Grum | lol .. i have no idea |
| 15:03.20 | Grum | google knows! |
| 15:03.23 | hamunaptra | mellow: looks like your tcp stack is waiting for a TCP finishing packet which never arrives... |
| 15:03.50 | Mellow_ | i know what does it mean |
| 15:03.54 | Mellow_ | unfortunately :( |
| 15:04.02 | Mellow_ | but i dont know how do i clear them |
| 15:04.06 | nevcairiel | yeah FIN_WAIT1 shouldnt really occur for a long time, unless something crashed in between, or is being attacked by incorrect tcp |
| 15:04.14 | hamunaptra | what os? |
| 15:04.17 | Mellow_ | linux |
| 15:04.25 | Mellow_ | 2.6.21 |
| 15:04.40 | Mellow_ | nevcairiel: since yesterday |
| 15:04.45 | hamunaptra | if you want to get rid of it, do a /etc/rc.d/network stop && start |
| 15:04.53 | Mellow_ | as i checked it shouldnt be longer than 60s |
| 15:05.04 | hamunaptra | (unless you're remote on it, that is...) |
| 15:05.04 | Mellow_ | hamunaptra: its a prodution server :o) |
| 15:05.22 | hamunaptra | ah... ok... are you on it through SSH? |
| 15:05.32 | nevcairiel | Mellow_: could be a syn flood .. i guess |
| 15:05.50 | art3mis | put your pants back on |
| 15:05.52 | art3mis | geez |
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| 15:06.06 | Mellow_ | shall i use tcpdump to see whats going on? |
| 15:06.08 | jme | :o |
| 15:06.11 | nevcairiel | you can try |
| 15:06.19 | Mellow_ | but i guess its not synflood |
| 15:06.19 | nevcairiel | and check /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_fin_timeout |
| 15:06.28 | Mellow_ | thats what i said before |
| 15:06.30 | Mellow_ | [17:04:39] < Mellow_> as i checked it shouldnt be longer than 60s |
| 15:06.34 | nevcairiel | ah ok |
| 15:06.36 | Mellow_ | cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_fin_timeout 586 17:04 |
| 15:06.36 | Mellow_ | 60 |
| 15:07.07 | nevcairiel | what process is attached to that connection? |
| 15:07.16 | Mellow_ | they are running wine with p2p client |
| 15:07.40 | Mellow_ | and they are complaining 'hey this is not working what the hell is that' |
| 15:07.55 | Mellow_ | but i have no idea what can i do |
| 15:08.09 | nevcairiel | i encounterd that issues once or twice |
| 15:08.10 | jme | so there's a guild on mal'ganis that hasn't killed nightbane, or cleared gruul or mag, yet they downed Leotheras |
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| 15:08.14 | nevcairiel | i always reloaded the service |
| 15:08.51 | Dustwhisper- | lol jme |
| 15:08.57 | Dustwhisper- | you can get to leo without killing anyone else so |
| 15:08.59 | Amadeo | I told Nvidia that their new 162.18 drivers weren't letting me open the Nvidia Control Panel, so they told me to install the old ass 84.21 version..lol |
| 15:09.05 | jme | Dustwhisper-: yeah i figured that |
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| 15:09.12 | Mellow_ | nevcairiel: how? |
| 15:09.21 | jme | Dustwhisper-: is that the same for all ssc bosses? |
| 15:09.26 | Mellow_ | shall i kill the wine stuff and start it again? |
| 15:09.26 | Dustwhisper- | yes |
| 15:09.30 | jme | Dustwhisper-: ah, cool |
| 15:09.31 | Dustwhisper- | except vashj |
| 15:09.37 | jme | oh |
| 15:09.40 | Dustwhisper- | the only bad thing about it is |
| 15:09.44 | Dustwhisper- | the trash respawns wont disappear |
| 15:09.48 | Fisker- | naga plz |
| 15:09.50 | Dustwhisper- | if you dont do it in a sequence |
| 15:09.54 | nevcairiel | FIN_WAIT1 can be caused when the FIN signal was dispatched by your service, but couldnt be send yet due to buffer issues |
| 15:09.59 | nevcairiel | now if it gets stuck there |
| 15:10.00 | CIA-23 | 03athou * r45889 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 15:10.00 | CIA-23 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 15:10.00 | CIA-23 | - New 'partial' option for each buff. When enabled, buffs that partially match primary or secondary buffname are considered not missing. (Use this for elixirs, for example) |
| 15:10.03 | nevcairiel | it can take a while |
| 15:10.06 | Dustwhisper- | you have to kill them all and crap to get to vashj jme or the console wont work |
| 15:10.14 | jme | ouch |
| 15:10.31 | jme | consoles, like steamvaults? |
| 15:10.32 | Elkano | Amadeo, I've fun with nVidia, too... got a Ti4200 in this PC and the webpage tells me to download the 94.xx drivers though they only suport FX+ meaning the 5xxx upwards... :/ |
| 15:10.36 | Dustwhisper- | yes |
| 15:10.38 | jme | cool |
| 15:10.43 | Dustwhisper- | you have to click a console |
| 15:10.48 | Dustwhisper- | that opens a waterbridge upto vashj |
| 15:11.01 | Mellow_ | nevcairiel: actually this problem still pending after i killed the wine/client |
| 15:11.03 | art3mis | mmm i love having my morning coffee with amaretto creamer |
| 15:12.19 | Amadeo | yuck, coffee |
| 15:13.24 | Amadeo | Elkano: Do you play WoW with that?? |
| 15:13.28 | nevcairiel | Every now and then, I'll see a FIN_WAIT1 socket whose counters are being |
| 15:13.28 | nevcairiel | reset by an ACK packet from the remote host. This stray ACK appears to be |
| 15:13.28 | nevcairiel | the result of a lame firewall/proxy trying to hold the connection in case |
| 15:13.28 | nevcairiel | the user ever returns (fat chance, you dumb firewall/proxy). |
| 15:13.30 | nevcairiel | woops |
| 15:13.34 | nevcairiel | thought it was one line :P |
| 15:13.39 | jme | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 15:13.40 | purl | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that nevcairiel is stuck to the floor |
| 15:14.52 | nevcairiel | the theory around is .. |
| 15:14.55 | nevcairiel | you are out of luck |
| 15:15.25 | nevcairiel | except you can pinpoint the exact process the socket is attached to and kill it |
| 15:15.28 | nevcairiel | or restart networking |
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| 15:15.44 | jme | who is Ephoenix? |
| 15:16.01 | jme | "Finely crafted to Ephoenix's specification" |
| 15:16.11 | Dustwhisper- | you don't know |
| 15:16.16 | Dustwhisper- | it was a kid that was terminally ill |
| 15:16.23 | Dustwhisper- | that got a trip to blizzard from like make a wish foundation |
| 15:16.30 | jme | oh that was ephoenix? |
| 15:16.31 | Dustwhisper- | and he got a whooleee day around in blizzard HQ |
| 15:16.34 | jme | i remember that story |
| 15:16.40 | Dustwhisper- | they gave him a lvl 70 with epix and all that |
| 15:16.43 | jme | yeah |
| 15:16.45 | Dustwhisper- | and let him craft his own weapon |
| 15:16.47 | Fisker- | jme what says that? |
| 15:16.48 | Dustwhisper- | that bow is the one he made |
| 15:16.54 | jme | Fisker-: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31986 |
| 15:17.12 | Fisker- | ah |
| 15:17.32 | Mellow_ | nevcairiel: does it help if i softly kill the process? i mean -2 will handle that problem? |
| 15:17.41 | Mellow_ | or shall i decrease the 60s? |
| 15:18.10 | Elkano | Amadeo, yes I do |
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| 15:19.12 | Amadeo | Elkano: Wow, that must be rough |
| 15:19.59 | Elkano | runs better than it did on my FX5200go ;) but thats maybe because my old pc has 768mb ram where the notebook only had 512 |
| 15:20.13 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 15:20.16 | Elkano | and between 10-20fps is enought to play smooth |
| 15:20.34 | Amadeo | You need a new PC more than I do |
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| 15:21.22 | Elkano | well, I'm looking into a new notebook currently |
| 15:22.08 | Dustwhisper- | and i scrapped my a64 3200 with a 6600 GT |
| 15:22.11 | Dustwhisper- | cause i thought it was to crap >_< |
| 15:22.47 | Coruss | lol, I went from a a64 3000+ and x800XL cuz it couldn't keep up |
| 15:23.22 | Coruss | hell even my macbook pro still gives me a bit of frame lag in the super wide open areas like nagrand, not enough vram |
| 15:24.58 | Elkano | well this is a XP 1800+ |
| 15:25.33 | Coruss | lol, you're describing my old server that I first started playing WoW on |
| 15:25.45 | Coruss | xp 1800+, GF4 Ti4200 256MB, 512MB ram |
| 15:26.02 | jme | my boots dropped from chess last night and got DE'd since i wasn't there :( |
| 15:26.10 | Coruss | :( |
| 15:26.23 | art3mis | ive got a a64x2 1.8ghz with a ati 1100xpress(r200 chipset) and it plays wow decently enough, course it would play better if i got around to buying 2gb of mem instead of 1 |
| 15:26.42 | Coruss | eewww xpres |
| 15:26.43 | art3mis | paid a whole 600 shipped for it ;P |
| 15:26.44 | Coruss | *xpress |
| 15:26.50 | art3mis | its actually not that bad |
| 15:27.08 | Coruss | heck of a lot cheaper than mine |
| 15:27.19 | jme | i play on my 2.33ghz core 2 duo macbook pro :D |
| 15:27.30 | jme | 2gb ram, radeon x1600xt |
| 15:27.42 | Coruss | but I got a 2.2GHz core 2 duo, GF8600M GT, 2gb ram |
| 15:27.43 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Wor1: ping |
| 15:28.26 | Undine | i need a new pc. my current one is dying :( |
| 15:28.35 | Elkano | jme, my girlfriend is waiting for the healer pants to drop from big bad wolf. last week her inet was down so she couldn't attend the raid and they droped. as the only druid in the raid I got them thoug I'm feral and was tanking... well... sad weekend last week ;) |
| 15:28.56 | jme | Elkano: aw |
| 15:28.57 | art3mis | no nookie for you for stealing her pants ;P |
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| 15:29.44 | Amadeo | Coruss: What kind of fps do you get with that? |
| 15:30.09 | Coruss | Amadeo: depends where I am, interior areas (without the open sky) I get anywhere up to 80-100fps |
| 15:30.29 | Undine | i got a top end mbp before xmas last year but i don't like wowing on it as i can't hear myself think ;) |
| 15:30.53 | Elkano | well, I could convince her that me having them is better then having them DE'd |
| 15:30.59 | Coruss | Amadeo: but in areas like nagrand/shatt, places that push VRAM to the max I've seen it drop down to 10-15fps |
| 15:31.15 | Amadeo | wow really? I'm surprised |
| 15:31.21 | Amadeo | how much vram does it have? |
| 15:31.22 | Undine | stv always used to be the big test for me |
| 15:31.23 | jme | Coruss: same here |
| 15:31.24 | Coruss | 128MB |
| 15:31.33 | Amadeo | is that Nvidia's top of the line mobile, or is there higher? |
| 15:31.48 | Coruss | I think it's the top mobile chipset, but you can get them with more VRAM |
| 15:32.02 | art3mis | yay shared vram ;P |
| 15:32.04 | art3mis | heh |
| 15:32.12 | Coruss | it's not shared |
| 15:32.16 | art3mis | mine is |
| 15:32.20 | Coruss | mine's not |
| 15:32.20 | art3mis | i think its kind of funny |
| 15:32.27 | Coruss | 2GB system ram, 128MB VRAM |
| 15:32.32 | art3mis | i can make it prettier but slower or less pretty but faster |
| 15:32.33 | Amadeo | I see |
| 15:32.53 | art3mis | but its got taht acer crystalbright for the wide screen |
| 15:33.06 | art3mis | so everyting is super clear and pretty even in direct sunlight |
| 15:33.20 | Coruss | lol, MBP, always pretty |
| 15:33.29 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 15:33.42 | art3mis | i wish someone would make a rolly tast bar like that for winders |
| 15:33.44 | jme | they aren't all that durable |
| 15:33.45 | art3mis | task |
| 15:33.59 | Elkano | art3mis, I was actually thinking about getting the Acer Aspire 5920. |
| 15:34.06 | art3mis | the thing i love about the new macs and mbp's is the magentic cords |
| 15:34.06 | jme | mine stays in my backpack, and after a few months the monitor is kind of flimsy |
| 15:34.11 | Coruss | jme: only laptops that are truly 'durable' are the mil-spec or police-spec ones |
| 15:34.20 | jme | and i accidentally let it hit the floor too hard once and the corner is dented |
| 15:34.28 | art3mis | elk: it's wierd i used to hate acer, but thier latops in the 5xxx+ are really nice |
| 15:34.30 | jme | Coruss: true |
| 15:34.33 | art3mis | mines a 5100-5250 |
| 15:34.50 | art3mis | the wireless in them is amaing |
| 15:34.52 | art3mis | amazing |
| 15:35.02 | jme | dude.. i got like 8 hours of sleep last night for the first time in forever |
| 15:35.03 | art3mis | its got a good 100-150' range |
| 15:35.17 | jme | freaking cablemodem went offline in the middle of an AV at 12:15 |
| 15:35.21 | art3mis | i can grab networks across the street in my office |
| 15:35.25 | jme | so i just went to bed |
| 15:35.40 | Antiarc|Wor1 | Hahah |
| 15:35.56 | Coruss | lol |
| 15:36.01 | jme | it sucked, i was planning on farming honor until server reset :( |
| 15:36.03 | Elkano | btw: don't drink and drive pls: http://www.thevideospace.com/videos/15079/Every_30_seconds_a_pedestrian_gets_hit_by_a_drunk.htm |
| 15:36.08 | art3mis | elk: the only thing you have to be careful about with the acers is the max mem limits, a couple of them max at 2mb instead of 4 |
| 15:36.25 | CIA-23 | 03jerry * r45890 10lern2count/Default/Trinity_Buttons.lua: lern2count: Really really fix Trinity support. For real. |
| 15:36.25 | Coruss | ya around 7pm PST last night damn authentication servers went down again, so I got an early night |
| 15:36.37 | jme | Coruss: they were up again by 10:45 CST |
| 15:36.52 | jme | so i got about 1.5 hours of play in before my cablemodem went offline |
| 15:36.54 | Coruss | 8:45 my time, I'd already given up |
| 15:36.59 | jme | lol |
| 15:37.09 | Elkano | well, 5920 is the newest series with a totally changed design. so don't know of facts about older systems still apply |
| 15:37.27 | jme | ok.. flamebait, but has anyone here played vanguard before? |
| 15:37.48 | art3mis | elk: im betting the wireless and lcd will remain true, all in all ive sold about 6 of thier 5100 series, and everyone is quite happy, they goodmachines and cheap too |
| 15:38.01 | art3mis | tigerdirect has the cheapest price for em as well |
| 15:38.41 | art3mis | i like averatec's too but stopped buying them when they ditched the standalone dvd player option |
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| 15:42.40 | Tuks | quick Q |
| 15:43.01 | durcyn | don't announce your question, just ask it |
| 15:43.06 | Tuks | is tere a way to send a msg to chat window, not to the chat |
| 15:43.12 | Tuks | hey! leme express myself! :D |
| 15:43.16 | Fisker- | Anyone here on the US servers? |
| 15:43.18 | Tuks | in a macro |
| 15:43.22 | durcyn | yes, lookup AddMessage |
| 15:43.26 | hamunaptra | with aceconsole installed: use /print |
| 15:43.35 | Coruss | Fisker-: US Silver Hand |
| 15:43.47 | durcyn | i.e. ChatFrame2:AddMessage("hello world") |
| 15:43.48 | Fisker- | Can you check something for me if you're not playing? |
| 15:44.06 | Coruss | lol I'm at work, what do you need? |
| 15:44.10 | Fisker- | ah ok |
| 15:44.19 | Fisker- | Just if the name randomizer still existed on the us servers |
| 15:44.25 | Fisker- | when you create a character |
| 15:44.26 | durcyn | it does |
| 15:44.30 | Coruss | afaik it does |
| 15:44.38 | Fisker- | cool |
| 15:46.46 | pastamancer | why would it not exist still? |
| 15:46.54 | Fisker- | Because the EU servers don't have it :I |
| 15:47.01 | pastamancer | odd |
| 15:47.11 | Fisker- | But we had in the start |
| 15:47.35 | pastamancer | maybe it was generating names that were offensive in dutch or something |
| 15:47.45 | Fisker- | heh |
| 15:48.09 | Fisker- | I think i got a reasonable non-biased explanation |
| 15:48.28 | Fisker- | Blizzard figured that americans couldn't make a name themselves |
| 15:48.47 | QuantumDelta | LOL |
| 15:51.51 | Antiarc|Work | Roartindon: Holy craps! |
| 15:51.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:51.56 | Antiarc|Work | I just watched that video you sent me |
| 15:51.58 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: :) |
| 15:51.58 | Antiarc|Work | I am very O_O |
| 15:52.08 | Fisker- | what video? :) |
| 15:52.14 | Antiarc|Work | http://youtube.com/watch?v=3srkOPOR5UA |
| 15:54.41 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: You should get those eyes checked out! |
| 15:56.02 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: It started off and I wasn't sure what she was talking about.. then it hit the 2 minute mark |
| 15:56.05 | Roartindon | when it goes nuts :) |
| 15:56.12 | Antiarc|Work | Yeeeeah. |
| 15:56.15 | Amadeo | I've never understood this Guitar Hero thing |
| 15:56.21 | Amadeo | why don't they just play a real guitar instead of pretending? |
| 15:56.35 | Antiarc|Work | It's fun and more accessable. |
| 15:56.40 | Antiarc|Work | <-- plays bass guitar |
| 15:56.50 | Dustwhisper- | cause |
| 15:56.57 | Dustwhisper- | playing a real guitar requires 2 hands and chords |
| 15:57.00 | Kyahx | That's like saying why don't people who play DDR just go dancing for real |
| 15:57.02 | Dustwhisper- | guitar hero requires pressing 5 buttons |
| 15:57.06 | Dustwhisper- | at a spesific time |
| 15:57.08 | Kyahx | Its a game |
| 15:57.08 | Amadeo | Yeah, but I'm sure if that guy was really playing a track, he'd be having a lot more fun :) |
| 15:57.18 | Kyahx | Not neccisarily |
| 15:57.26 | Dustwhisper- | I dont see the point of DDR either |
| 15:57.28 | Dustwhisper- | dancing is more fun |
| 15:57.30 | Amadeo | same |
| 15:57.31 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:58.06 | Kyahx | Its putting something into a gaming context that makes it fun :P Not saying the "real thing" isn't fun either |
| 15:58.19 | Amadeo | I mean, I'm not saying it's not difficult, because obviously it's still hard as hell |
| 15:58.24 | Kyahx | but I don't think you'd ever see two people sit down with two real guitars and play a song simultaniously as competition |
| 15:58.28 | Dustwhisper- | so |
| 15:58.35 | Amadeo | but it just looks goofy...i saw them do some competition on TV |
| 15:58.35 | Dustwhisper- | DDR you are competing about points |
| 15:58.38 | Dustwhisper- | reallife dancing leads to sex |
| 15:58.39 | Dustwhisper- | Hmm |
| 15:58.42 | Dustwhisper- | dancing > ddr |
| 15:58.47 | Amadeo | and they're holding these toy guitars and pretending to be rock stars |
| 15:58.50 | Amadeo | it was just goofy |
| 15:59.01 | Dustwhisper- | but |
| 15:59.05 | Dustwhisper- | singstar or guitar hero is fun |
| 15:59.09 | Dustwhisper- | when you go all balls out |
| 15:59.13 | Dustwhisper- | that's more fun with singstar though |
| 15:59.17 | Dustwhisper- | cause you can sing overly ugly =D |
| 15:59.23 | Antiarc|Work | Kyahx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vdJvHE8qxA |
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| 15:59.45 | Antiarc|Work | Also, Victor Wooten makes me want to smash my guitar out of shame |
| 15:59.48 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 15:59.49 | Amadeo | he's sick |
| 15:59.58 | Dustwhisper- | who is he |
| 16:00.02 | Amadeo | crazy bass player |
| 16:00.11 | Dustwhisper- | oh |
| 16:00.12 | Antiarc|Work | Absolutely insane bass player |
| 16:00.14 | Antiarc|Work | Watch the video |
| 16:00.24 | Dustwhisper- | more into guitar tbh, steve vai and joe satriani |
| 16:00.36 | Dustwhisper- | but that guy was sick (the victor guy) |
| 16:00.51 | Kyahx | *shrug* all games are just simulations, you could make the same arugment for lots of other stuff |
| 16:00.53 | Cyrez | I'd just like to point out that playing Guitar Hero can be harder if you really know how to play guitar. OK, I don't know how to play either the real thing or the game very well at all but the problem is that your hand will naturally move to one place but the button you need to hit, well, isn't there. |
| 16:00.58 | Kyahx | Why play FPS games when you could just go paintballing |
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| 16:01.32 | Amadeo | lol |
| 16:01.32 | Coruss | Kyahx: cause paintball can get expensive |
| 16:01.40 | Kyahx | Why play madden when you could just go outside, or play Tony Hawk games when you could just go learn yourself |
| 16:01.40 | Amadeo | and you can't cast spells |
| 16:01.47 | Amadeo | I hate sports games, and I agree |
| 16:01.49 | Amadeo | :) |
| 16:02.06 | Kyahx | Im just saying :P You can't compare gaming version of one thing to their "real" counterparts equally |
| 16:02.10 | Amadeo | FPS games are different, you're not emulating something |
| 16:02.15 | Kaelten | hello |
| 16:02.19 | Amadeo | where in real life do you run around with rocket launchers and shoot people? |
| 16:02.29 | Amadeo | not even in the military can you do it like an FPS game :P |
| 16:02.38 | Coruss | paintball grenades = fun |
| 16:02.42 | Cyrez | And in Tony Hawk you can bash your skull and crunch your jewels without even cringing yourself. |
| 16:02.52 | Kyahx | And 90% of the people who play GH could never play guitar as well as they "can" in the game |
| 16:02.54 | Kyahx | heh |
| 16:03.09 | Dustwhisper- | never understood the point of watching football either |
| 16:03.12 | Dustwhisper- | nor playin footie games |
| 16:03.15 | Dustwhisper- | when you can kick the ball =D |
| 16:03.20 | Kyahx | Still the same argument |
| 16:03.21 | Dustwhisper- | golf though is fun playing, watching and in a game |
| 16:03.22 | Dustwhisper- | =D |
| 16:03.24 | Dustwhisper- | anyways |
| 16:03.27 | Amadeo | Kyahx: I dunno, I bet if they took the time to learn it they'd do well, especially the people who are really good |
| 16:03.29 | Dustwhisper- | Dancing in reallife is better than DDR |
| 16:03.31 | Coruss | watching sports is more pointless than playing video games, at least a game is interactive |
| 16:03.33 | Dustwhisper- | more moves, more freedom, leads to sex |
| 16:03.46 | Pkekyo | should I take a lock or shadowpriest for heroic UB? |
| 16:03.54 | Amadeo | Coruss: I agree with you there also, I've never cared much for watching sports either |
| 16:03.59 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: doesnt matter |
| 16:04.06 | jme | Pkekyo: either |
| 16:04.21 | jme | though i only cleared the first boss the one time i ran heroic UB.. had to leave |
| 16:04.23 | Coruss | Amadeo: except hockey, the video games don't come close to the arena feeling |
| 16:04.25 | jme | for real life |
| 16:04.27 | Amadeo | and hi Kaelten :) |
| 16:04.38 | Kaelten | hows it going? |
| 16:04.48 | Amadeo | not too bad, how about yourself? |
| 16:05.21 | Kaelten | still tired from blizzcon :( |
| 16:06.05 | Amadeo | when did you get back? |
| 16:09.17 | Elkano | talking about BlizzCon it's 'fun' to know how at least a few of you guys look... especially to what one thinks they may... |
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| 16:10.13 | durcyn | Kaelten is actually a hot chick irl |
| 16:10.22 | Coruss | hey kael, does BlizzCon have a BYOC lan or is it just a conference for blizz to show off? |
| 16:10.42 | Kaelten | Amadeo: yesterday evening |
| 16:10.51 | Amadeo | I see! |
| 16:11.07 | Amadeo | bbiab |
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| 16:11.23 | Kaelten | Coruss: neither. they had two bank of computers preloaded with some stuff (WotLK, SC2) for people to play |
| 16:11.25 | jme | Coruss: byoc, hack the wotlk server, steal alpha code? |
| 16:11.42 | Kaelten | but they don't have a lan enviroment |
| 16:11.49 | jme | didn't think so, for that reason |
| 16:12.11 | Coruss | jme: it's very very easy to lock them down, put them on different network hardware |
| 16:12.27 | durcyn | you could still drop a thumb drive on one of those boxes, and snag a copy of the client |
| 16:12.32 | Coruss | they'd have more problems w/ usb keys than network hacking |
| 16:12.43 | Kaelten | nope, they have a very simple method to ccombat that |
| 16:12.47 | jme | Coruss: of course |
| 16:12.50 | Kaelten | you can't see the front or the back of the machines |
| 16:13.01 | jme | cool |
| 16:13.05 | durcyn | oh? the ones in 2005 were just sitting there on the tables |
| 16:13.07 | jme | i figured their security would be pretty high |
| 16:13.08 | Kaelten | you'd have to be very obvious |
| 16:13.14 | jme | durcyn: lol |
| 16:13.36 | Kaelten | ya they where sitting on the table, but all you could see is the pretty blue window with the leds behind it. |
| 16:13.42 | durcyn | not kidding, they had internet access too |
| 16:13.46 | durcyn | or at least to the live servers |
| 16:13.59 | CIA-23 | 03ascalia * r45891 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 16:13.59 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 16:14.00 | CIA-23 | - Loot updates |
| 16:15.01 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: I just watched that video.. 1:30 or so.. wtf?! :) |
| 16:15.55 | Cyrez | Ooo, Kaelten! Dunno if you cought the tail end of the topic on your way in here but there's a new channel called #wowace-cia and ckk said I should add you to the 'list'. ;) |
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| 16:16.20 | Kaelten | #wowace-cia? |
| 16:16.26 | Kaelten | ? |
| 16:16.28 | jme | #wowace-fbi next |
| 16:16.29 | Cyrez | At first it was me bouncing CIA's messages to the channel but now there's an actual CIA bot in there. |
| 16:16.48 | CIA-23 | ow |
| 16:16.58 | Cyrez | Another one of those in a moderated channel. |
| 16:16.59 | jme | ~whalecrit CIA-23 |
| 16:16.59 | purl | ACTION crits CIA-23 with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. CIA-23 dies |
| 16:17.12 | Cyrez | Same messages as this guy but without the chatter in between. |
| 16:17.13 | Kaelten | great another channel |
| 16:17.22 | Kaelten | I'm in 15 already! |
| 16:17.24 | Kaelten | :P |
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| 16:17.33 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45892 10Recount/ (Sync.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Now beyond just changing the sum numbers for heal buffs it changes the amount actually said |
| 16:17.34 | nevcairiel | now dont be picky because of one channel :P |
| 16:18.13 | Cyrez | Only 4 can even talk in it including the bot right now, lol. |
| 16:18.27 | jme | oooooh |
| 16:18.57 | Cyrez | But I couldn't get the bot on the access list so somebody needs to do it manually in the rare event that the bot goes offline AND I'm not on. |
| 16:19.37 | nevcairiel | the bot goes offline all the time |
| 16:19.38 | Cyrez | Combined that's about as likely as me getting struck by lightning. |
| 16:19.58 | Cyrez | Yeah, but how often do you see me not here? ;) |
| 16:20.07 | nevcairiel | you sleep, i hope |
| 16:20.48 | Cyrez | Well, yeah, but not much, and anyway that doesn't matter because my script pack takes care of the autoop/autovoice stuff. |
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| 16:22.44 | Cyrez | My brain is jammed into high gear pretty much all the time. |
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| 16:23.06 | Cyrez | At the least. |
| 16:23.09 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45893 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Better cross data syncing on heal buffs |
| 16:23.18 | Cyrez | And if it's in the really high gear I just don't sleep. |
| 16:23.41 | jme | Pvp if it's in really high gear |
| 16:23.55 | CIA-23 | 03helium * r45894 10Fence/modules/ (4 files): |
| 16:23.55 | CIA-23 | Fence: |
| 16:23.55 | CIA-23 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 16:23.55 | CIA-23 | - fixed Browse's bug |
| 16:23.55 | CIA-23 | - enhanced price per item |
| 16:24.20 | deltron | yeah, PvP is fairly boring |
| 16:24.33 | deltron | go to AV and report all the afk'ers |
| 16:24.38 | deltron | that'll help |
| 16:24.55 | jme | i never did that, i figured it wouldn't help |
| 16:25.03 | [dRaCo] | I'll do that once they implemented that report system |
| 16:25.11 | jme | we did gkick someone recently because all he did was afk in AV |
| 16:25.25 | Cyrez | I lose PvP no matter which faction I'm playing on, usually. I'm a damned good player but some higher power just doesn't like me. </3 |
| 16:25.29 | deltron | yeah, I can't wait for the report system |
| 16:25.33 | deltron | that will be sweet |
| 16:25.38 | jme | Cyrez: heh |
| 16:25.45 | nevcairiel | i wonder if i could actually solve my macro solution with secure button states ... |
| 16:25.46 | jme | Cyrez: i feel about the same, there's always someone better |
| 16:26.04 | jme | Cyrez: i love going on killing sprees in AV though and ending up on the top of the charts at the end :D |
| 16:26.07 | [dRaCo] | prolly they'll report me for being afk, since I will check the tunnels all the time to find afk ppl :/ |
| 16:26.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:26.18 | jme | [dRaCo]: lol |
| 16:26.19 | nevcairiel | you see them on the map, you know |
| 16:26.25 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 16:26.26 | jme | [dRaCo]: just wait until about halfway through the BG and use the scoreboard |
| 16:26.57 | Cyrez | My soft and squishy Mage gets sawed in half by groups of twink rogues. |
| 16:27.06 | [dRaCo] | but I tend to check at least 3 times to make sure I dont report the wrong ppl |
| 16:27.09 | [dRaCo] | takes some time ^^ |
| 16:27.25 | xyu | does anything even happen? |
| 16:27.32 | durcyn | 3 hour ban |
| 16:27.34 | xyu | most people are usually there |
| 16:27.36 | xyu | just hitting space bar |
| 16:27.40 | xyu | and looking back every so often |
| 16:27.55 | xyu | gm will ask if they are there |
| 16:27.58 | Cyrez | But I piss them off when I noe they're behind a teammate trying to retake an objective and blast away their stealth with my AoE. |
| 16:28.00 | xyu | they'll say yep, he'll say have a nice day |
| 16:28.10 | Cyrez | Oh, boy, are they steamed after that... |
| 16:28.19 | [dRaCo] | nope. they'll kick you anyway |
| 16:28.23 | [dRaCo] | they got logs :> |
| 16:28.59 | [dRaCo] | seen a screenshot lately of some guy argueing with a GM 'bout that |
| 16:29.18 | Cyrez | Speaking of AFK.... |
| 16:29.21 | [dRaCo] | wonder where I saw it... |
| 16:29.43 | xyu | someone asked a question regarding that at blizzcon but stupid ass giga changed over just as he was about to answer |
| 16:29.47 | jme | i love rogues that don't have improved stealth or whatever |
| 16:29.54 | jme | i can see them from like 30 yards away with track hidden |
| 16:30.07 | Cyrez | I found out that Blizz said the guy that was banned for using keyboard macros was doing so AFK. |
| 16:30.26 | Cyrez | And THAT is why they axed him. |
| 16:31.12 | xyu | don't rely on the scoreboard either. some people are pretty tricky w/ their afk |
| 16:31.23 | xyu | i saw one guy go into that wildpaw cave or whatever and aoe them down |
| 16:31.26 | xyu | to get some dmg on the board |
| 16:31.29 | xyu | then just afk in the cave :D |
| 16:31.31 | jme | someone said in trade how they farmed 14k something honor all day sunday without killing anyone |
| 16:31.59 | jme | :/ |
| 16:33.01 | nevcairiel | i dont kill anyone either |
| 16:33.06 | nevcairiel | but thats normal for a healer i guess |
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| 16:33.22 | jme | well, 14k is a good bit for a single day |
| 16:33.37 | jme | i make around 1k an hour if we lose |
| 16:33.41 | xyu | i had 13086 yesterday |
| 16:33.49 | Cyrez | I try to follow the flag carrier and hose anybody chasing them for long enough that they can run like hell. |
| 16:34.00 | Oridan | hi all, any specific way i should rename my addon? |
| 16:34.14 | Cyrez | Um, what? |
| 16:34.22 | deltron | what's the name? |
| 16:34.39 | Oridan | made an addon a while ago, a shout reminder.. its kindof developed much further than shouts, so the name is misleading |
| 16:34.41 | Antiarc|Work | Oridan: I suggest IllegalKeyLogger |
| 16:34.59 | jme | IllegalAVAFKHelper |
| 16:35.07 | deltron | lol |
| 16:35.26 | [dRaCo] | you should rename all ace addons to have Illegal in the name |
| 16:35.39 | jme | hah |
| 16:35.40 | Antiarc|Work | Or rename Joker to Illegal |
| 16:35.48 | Antiarc|Work | "Omen |
| 16:35.52 | Oridan | just dunno if i can "switch" or something |
| 16:35.57 | Antiarc|Work | "Omen's an Illegal threat meter" |
| 16:36.03 | Antiarc|Work | :V |
| 16:36.09 | jme | "it uses illegal means of calculating threat" |
| 16:36.16 | Chompers | NOTAVIRUS.TXT.EXE |
| 16:36.17 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.21 | Chompers | great name for an addon |
| 16:36.26 | jme | Chompers: : |
| 16:36.28 | jme | O |
| 16:36.30 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: Yes, but I don't have any specifics. |
| 16:36.36 | Megalon | Chompers: ;D |
| 16:36.48 | Chompers | i just got it! |
| 16:36.55 | xyu | someone make an IllegalNamePlateRangeIncreaser addon |
| 16:36.55 | Chompers | Joker - Ace |
| 16:36.58 | Chompers | Clever! |
| 16:37.11 | Roartindon | xyu: I'd love to do it if I knew how :) |
| 16:37.12 | Neebler | mmm nameplaterangeincreaser. wtb |
| 16:37.48 | loonacy | Even just 10 yards on the nameplate range would be nice. |
| 16:38.04 | [dRaCo] | xyu: INPRI, they'll report you for making fun of christian beliefs n stuff |
| 16:38.22 | xyu | doh |
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| 16:39.31 | Cyrez | I'd like to see WoW have multiple monitor support. Like, better than it does, anyway. Like X3. |
| 16:39.51 | Roartindon | Cyrez: Just get a huge huge monitor.. my solution :) |
| 16:40.04 | jme | what were the monitors they used at blizzcon? |
| 16:40.07 | jme | for the arena tourney |
| 16:40.19 | Cyrez | 1800x1440@75Hz big enough? |
| 16:40.21 | Cryect | wow doesn't support IRC so who cares for wow on second monitor :-p |
| 16:40.32 | Roartindon | Cyrez: I play 2560x1600 |
| 16:40.34 | xyu | no idea |
| 16:40.41 | jme | Roartindon: :O |
| 16:40.41 | Cyrez | Woo, nice. |
| 16:40.46 | jme | i play 1440x900 |
| 16:40.48 | xyu | i think they should allow spectaters though, somehow |
| 16:40.50 | xyu | w/o lagging |
| 16:40.51 | Cyrez | Well, mine's a CRT. |
| 16:40.52 | Cyrez | >< |
| 16:40.54 | jme | when it's maximized |
| 16:41.10 | jme | i play windowed mode at my gf's apt so i can alt-tab, so it's even smaller on my 15" laptop screen |
| 16:42.08 | jme | !ap 1413 |
| 16:42.08 | ThraeBot | jme: Arena points from a rating of 1413 is, 2v2: 240, 3v3: 274, 5v5: 342 |
| 16:42.09 | deltron | i'm at 1680x1050 |
| 16:42.18 | jme | lol... i'm not sure the 5v5 team i got on is going to be worth it, my 3v3 is ranked higher |
| 16:42.23 | Cyrez | This is what I have: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/p1110/En/specs.htm |
| 16:42.37 | deltron | my 2v2 is ranked highest out of all of my teams |
| 16:42.56 | jme | well, 1413 is low |
| 16:43.10 | [dRaCo] | so is mine, but I still get most points from my 5on5 |
| 16:43.11 | jme | for a 5v5 |
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| 16:43.31 | jme | !ar 700 |
| 16:43.32 | ThraeBot | jme: Arena rating from 700 points is, 2v2: 1986, 3v3: 1885, 5v5: 1756 |
| 16:43.46 | deltron | lol my 5v5 is 1363 |
| 16:43.51 | jme | :( |
| 16:44.04 | Jaxon | !ap 1775 |
| 16:44.04 | ThraeBot | Jaxon: Arena points from a rating of 1775 is, 2v2: 508, 3v3: 580, 5v5: 726 |
| 16:44.14 | Jaxon | My 2v2 team :D |
| 16:44.18 | deltron | !ap 1657 |
| 16:44.19 | ThraeBot | deltron: Arena points from a rating of 1657 is, 2v2: 395, 3v3: 452, 5v5: 565 |
| 16:44.27 | jme | !ar 1450 |
| 16:44.29 | deltron | i got almost 400 |
| 16:44.29 | deltron | nice |
| 16:44.32 | jme | he ignored me :X |
| 16:44.49 | jme | !ar 1450 |
| 16:44.49 | ThraeBot | jme: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life. |
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| 16:44.54 | nuoHep | its "!ap"... |
| 16:44.57 | deltron | borked |
| 16:45.03 | jme | i know, i'm finding the max points per week |
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| 16:45.19 | FtH|Daemona | Cryect ? did you ever try to open the Graph window, then click "stack" and then "normalize" ? |
| 16:45.25 | FtH|Daemona | it seems to hardlock the client ;) |
| 16:45.36 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 16:45.41 | Funkeh` | daemona sux |
| 16:45.42 | deltron | hai2u |
| 16:45.54 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` blows? ;) |
| 16:45.57 | FtH|Daemona | lo dude |
| 16:46.11 | Funkeh` | sup |
| 16:46.23 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Max points is 1426 |
| 16:46.36 | jme | Antiarc|Work: ahh, thanks |
| 16:46.51 | jme | Antiarc|Work: so either way, it's a piece of gear every two weeks at the high end |
| 16:46.59 | Antiarc|Work | At least, yes |
| 16:47.07 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe two every 3 weeks |
| 16:47.12 | Antiarc|Work | Depending on the gear ;) |
| 16:47.15 | jme | yeah |
| 16:47.31 | jme | i only have 301 arena points :( |
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| 16:47.58 | jme | would've had more today but neither of my teams played last week, dangit |
| 16:48.51 | Gnarfoz | the same for me :< |
| 16:48.58 | Gnarfoz | I want a better MH :< |
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| 16:54.39 | Gnarfoz | ~whaleparry fisker- |
| 16:54.40 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry fisker-'s attacks. |
| 16:55.32 | CIA-23 | 03oridan * r45895 10SpellReminder/: Created folder remotely |
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| 16:57.40 | jme | Can't call method "find" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/perl5/SVK/XD.pm line 257. |
| 16:57.45 | jme | :( |
| 16:57.53 | jme | hmmm |
| 16:59.46 | CIA-23 | 03athou * r45896 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 16:59.46 | CIA-23 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 16:59.46 | CIA-23 | - added a separator between counted and not-counted buffs in the tooltip |
| 17:00.23 | Elkano | is raidbufffu similar to corkfu? |
| 17:01.17 | Cyrez | It could be a Pepsi vs. Coke deal. |
| 17:01.26 | Athou | it's similar to the buff check feature of xrs |
| 17:02.14 | Tuks | wish xrs had sfubar plugin |
| 17:03.34 | kebinusan | heh http://www.hemmy.net/2007/08/06/kids-cardboard-cutout-slows-down-traffic/ |
| 17:05.03 | *** join/#wowace Aut0 (n=Aut0zz@cpe-71-64-96-253.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 17:05.15 | Cyrez | Meh, I'd like all my config stuff to be inside Niagara unless I have a need to get to it faster than that more than I need the real estate. |
| 17:05.38 | Cyrez | But that's just me. |
| 17:05.56 | *** join/#wowace shingo2 (n=shingo@p5487FAE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:06.25 | Tuks | whats niagara.. besides the waterfalls.. |
| 17:06.31 | Fisker- | I must attack |
| 17:08.10 | Cyrez | It puts the config stuff for several Ace2 addons in one place. |
| 17:10.26 | CIA-23 | 03helium * r45897 10FinderReminder/ (FinderReminder.toc locale.lua): FinderReminder: updated zhTW localization |
| 17:10.55 | CIA-23 | 03helium * r45898 10FishingAce/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 17:10.55 | CIA-23 | FishingAce: |
| 17:10.55 | CIA-23 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 17:11.01 | Cyrez | Now, if it had some sort of open framework so you could add configs for ANY addon, that'd be sweet. |
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| 17:17.16 | CIA-23 | 03oridan * r45899 10SpellReminder/ (. SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc embeds.xml): |
| 17:17.16 | CIA-23 | SpellReminder: |
| 17:17.16 | CIA-23 | - initial attempt to rename mod... :/ |
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| 17:23.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
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| 17:24.51 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:25.41 | Bruners | hey ck |
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| 17:28.28 | ckknight | brb |
| 17:30.15 | Jaxon | Something is very, very wrong. |
| 17:31.31 | Cyrez | ~blame midgets |
| 17:31.32 | purl | ACTION blames midgets (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 17:31.42 | Jaxon | My mail server is catching about two thousand spam messages. |
| 17:31.43 | Jaxon | An hour. |
| 17:32.04 | Cyrez | Ban Korea and Finland. |
| 17:32.31 | Cyrez | Oh, no, wait... That's FTP servers. |
| 17:34.56 | Saint-N | 2000? |
| 17:35.01 | Saint-N | thats pretty awesome |
| 17:35.11 | Coruss | how many are getting through.. |
| 17:36.13 | Jaxon | Coruss: I'm not concerned about how many are getting through, I'm concerned about the 200% increase since yesterday. |
| 17:36.19 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45900 10fmBuffCheck/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua fmBuffCheck.lua): |
| 17:36.19 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 17:36.19 | CIA-23 | - Buff set management completed (QA needed) |
| 17:36.19 | CIA-23 | - Buff checking completed (QA needed) |
| 17:36.19 | CIA-23 | - Reporting and display needs further work (graphical would be nice) |
| 17:36.39 | Cyrez | Jaxon: Any way to scan the "Received" field? |
| 17:37.24 | Jaxon | Cyrez: I have them sorted into an accessible IMAP folder so I'm going to go have fun with that. |
| 17:37.40 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:37.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 17:37.41 | Cyrez | Ouch. >< |
| 17:38.12 | Jaxon | I hardly delete anything, I keep spam so I can train any new filters I might need to as well to make sure I don't delete false positives. |
| 17:38.28 | Cyrez | Ditto. |
| 17:38.40 | Coruss | Jaxon: 200% increase... that is troubling |
| 17:38.43 | Jaxon | Well, this article is rather doom and gloom, but makes sense. |
| 17:38.44 | Jaxon | http://www.informationweek.com/shared/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=201202711 |
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| 17:38.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 17:39.00 | Cyrez | I have POP3 access to my Y! Mail and I disabled their spam filtering and let my client catch everything. |
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| 17:40.32 | Cyrez | Before the, eh, big advances in spam, 2000 messages could come in and only a couple dozen pieces of garbage would get through, with no false positives. |
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| 17:41.26 | Saint-N | appearantly ive gone from 35 spam a week on my gmail to 350 |
| 17:41.52 | Cyrez | I probably get around 100 every 12 hours or so. |
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| 17:48.32 | Coruss | Jaxon: that is a bit doom and gloom |
| 17:48.56 | Coruss | wonder if macs are vulnerable to it.. |
| 17:49.20 | Antiarc|Work | :o |
| 17:49.21 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/wowace/out.html |
| 17:49.26 | jme | so they're going to implement something like itemrack or outfitter in the default UI, except give you the extra bag space that the mods can't |
| 17:49.53 | jme | and implementing boss warnings in the default ui? wow |
| 17:50.06 | Coruss | the boss warnings were already there, but I still prefer bigwigs |
| 17:50.16 | snurre | oh, sweet.. Omen topping the dl list.. gj :) |
| 17:50.23 | Antiarc|Work | That's 40k DLs in 2 days |
| 17:50.27 | Antiarc|Work | Plus 11k Threat-1.0 standalones |
| 17:50.32 | Antiarc|Work | 51k downloads in 2 days. :O |
| 17:50.51 | Coruss | Antiarc|Work: Omen ftw! it's on my raid's mod list |
| 17:51.03 | Chompers | got my whole guild using Omen for SSC last night |
| 17:51.08 | Chompers | it went really well |
| 17:51.15 | Jaxon | Coruss: the mail server I'm now concerned about runs on linux |
| 17:51.26 | Chompers | except for the pet issue.. *hint* |
| 17:51.34 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 17:51.42 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, yeah |
| 17:51.45 | Coruss | Jaxon: I was thinking about the worm mentioned in the link |
| 17:52.57 | Xinhuan | where can we see the download numbers? |
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| 17:54.04 | Antiarc|Work | Xinhuan: Check my link I posted a few lines up |
| 17:54.23 | Frostx- | jme: what do you mean by extra bag space ? |
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| 17:54.45 | Xinhuan | i see |
| 17:54.47 | kergoth | pet issue? |
| 17:54.50 | Saint-N | are those raw downlaods or uniques? |
| 17:54.52 | Xinhuan | a wowace script generates that? |
| 17:55.10 | Antiarc|Work | Uniques. |
| 17:55.11 | jme | Frostx-: as in, you don't have to take up bag slots to store your extra gear in when you use outfitter or something to switch gear |
| 17:55.12 | Coruss | Frostx-: remember in diablo 2 how there was weapon quick swapping? effectively giving you an extra slot for a weapon |
| 17:55.14 | Antiarc|Work | And yes, Xinhuan |
| 17:55.23 | Saint-N | neat |
| 17:55.24 | Antiarc|Work | Saint-N: Note the "Only one download per IP is counted" note :P |
| 17:55.39 | Saint-N | i didnt read enough i just glanced |
| 17:55.48 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: omen released yet? ;-) |
| 17:56.05 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Not officially :P |
| 17:56.10 | Saint-N | wonder howmany of the 9k pitbull ones were hey this looks neat... oh my god!! *delete* |
| 17:56.12 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 17:56.24 | jme | haha |
| 17:56.26 | Xinhuan | i'm hungry |
| 17:56.31 | Xinhuan | time to take a break from writing addons |
| 17:56.35 | Frostx- | 67773777 |
| 17:56.36 | Frostx- | xin |
| 17:56.37 | Frostx- | :D |
| 17:56.38 | Saint-N | no break for you! |
| 17:56.44 | Xinhuan | i call that a bit too often frostx |
| 17:56.46 | jme | break? from wow? what? |
| 17:56.47 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 17:56.51 | Frostx- | rofl |
| 17:56.55 | Frostx- | call more |
| 17:57.00 | Amadeo | That's why ckknight is skinny, he never takes breaks |
| 17:57.08 | jme | i should learn lua and write addons at work |
| 17:57.09 | Xinhuan | well considering i have 405 days /played now on a single char, i do think i want a break ;p |
| 17:57.12 | Saint-N | you've got achinese name so you must be in a sweat shop, we're not paying your 25cents a day to eat, back to work! |
| 17:57.15 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 17:57.15 | Frostx- | they should have a ingame ordering service |
| 17:57.22 | jme | Xinhuan: wow |
| 17:57.30 | Frostx- | AFKER |
| 17:57.30 | Frostx- | :D |
| 17:57.35 | Xinhuan | not afking! |
| 17:57.36 | jme | my most on a single is like.. 37 days |
| 17:57.38 | Xinhuan | i'm writing addons! |
| 17:57.51 | Frostx- | i have maybe 150-200 |
| 17:57.53 | Frostx- | =< |
| 17:57.57 | Frostx- | i just raid |
| 17:57.58 | jme | total? i'm not sure |
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| 17:58.08 | Xinhuan | i'm going to get a new PC that can run triple monitors, so i have wow on the first, and windows on the other 2 ;p |
| 17:58.22 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45901 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - load LibJokerComm-1.0 if available |
| 17:58.30 | Frostx- | i need a cpu that lets me fraps in high res |
| 17:58.30 | Frostx- | :< |
| 17:58.37 | jme | Xinhuan: i just plug my monitor into my laptop, play wow on my laptop, and irc/safari on the other screen |
| 17:58.37 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45902 10Joker/LibJokerComm-1.0/LibJokerComm-1.0.lua: LibJokerComm-1.0 - cleanup on :OnDisable |
| 17:58.47 | Xinhuan | i don't actually have 3 PCs or laptops though |
| 17:58.48 | Saint-N | heh just change explorer.exe to wow.exe ;P |
| 17:58.57 | Saint-N | save all that extra windows baggage ;P |
| 17:58.58 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45903 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua: LibJokerEvent-1.0 - cleanup on :OnDisable |
| 17:59.00 | Xinhuan | but i actually do have 3 17" LCDs |
| 17:59.10 | jme | Xinhuan: except last night i tried to log in wow, and didn't realize my irc terminal still had the focus |
| 17:59.15 | jme | Xinhuan: so i typed my password in here |
| 17:59.16 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45904 10Joker/LibJokerHook-1.0/LibJokerHook-1.0.lua: LibJokerHook-1.0 - cleanup on :OnDisable |
| 17:59.21 | Xinhuan | guess what, i did the same today |
| 17:59.26 | jme | lol |
| 17:59.26 | Xinhuan | so i had to change my password |
| 17:59.27 | Frostx- | ckknight, what's Joker ? |
| 17:59.39 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45905 10Joker/LibJokerTimer-1.0/LibJokerTimer-1.0.lua: LibJokerTimer-1.0 - cleanup on :OnDisable |
| 17:59.42 | Xinhuan | so, i think its a good thing my username isn't known hehe |
| 17:59.44 | Iceroth | !ar 400 |
| 17:59.44 | ThraeBot | Iceroth: Arena rating from 400 points is, 2v2: 1661, 3v3: 1606, 5v5: 1522 |
| 17:59.45 | jme | well at least i didn't type the username |
| 17:59.46 | jme | yeah |
| 17:59.54 | Antiarc|Work | Joker's a library framework of doom. It'll Bat your Mans. Ahahaha. |
| 17:59.56 | ckknight | Frostx-: a slimmed-down, cleaned-up Ace2 |
| 18:00.03 | Frostx- | O____O |
| 18:00.05 | Frostx- | sounds tasty |
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| 18:00.33 | Xinhuan | my addon should be ready soon, ingame ct-profiles ;p |
| 18:00.43 | jme | ooh |
| 18:00.47 | Frostx- | really? |
| 18:00.49 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 18:00.55 | Frostx- | been looking for a replacement |
| 18:01.13 | Xinhuan | i have a screenshot somewhere |
| 18:01.52 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/wowequip0.4.jpg |
| 18:01.53 | Frostx- | lemme know when its out |
| 18:02.01 | Xinhuan | i'm at v0.6 now though |
| 18:02.06 | Xinhuan | still adding stuff |
| 18:02.10 | Frostx- | its irritating when i wanna see what stats a specific gear setup will give me |
| 18:02.19 | Frostx- | but then i have to compute all the ratings and stats manually |
| 18:02.29 | Xinhuan | that's a fairly old screenshot |
| 18:02.49 | Amadeo | Anyone else have trouble getting imported layouts in PitBull to save? |
| 18:03.15 | Frostx- | you're gonna rename the stat names in the Item Bonus Summary right? |
| 18:03.22 | Xinhuan | yah done that already |
| 18:03.38 | Coruss | Xinhuan: that'd be uber, might be cool to integrate with atlasloot somehow |
| 18:03.42 | Xinhuan | v0.6 has profile saving/loading |
| 18:04.00 | Xinhuan | v0.7, i have to somehow make it possible to compare profiles against one another rather than the currently equipped gear |
| 18:04.07 | Xinhuan | and still thinking about how to take into account talents |
| 18:04.10 | Xinhuan | and race |
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| 18:04.26 | kergoth | wow, so you'll be able to try stuff on and easily see what benefits you'll get from it? that's sexy |
| 18:04.30 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 18:04.37 | Xinhuan | the only catch is - you have to get the itemlink first |
| 18:04.42 | Xinhuan | the item must be in your local cache |
| 18:04.46 | kergoth | well, unsurprising |
| 18:04.51 | Xinhuan | so if you're on a backward server - it'll be a bit harder |
| 18:05.04 | Frostx- | gg can't try illidan loot on our svr |
| 18:05.16 | Frostx- | hurry up nurfed! |
| 18:05.27 | Frostx- | or is it faction only |
| 18:05.29 | Xinhuan | i spent a good while handling code for unsafe itemlinks when loading from a saved profile |
| 18:05.35 | Xinhuan | zzz |
| 18:06.17 | Coruss | Frostx-: server wide |
| 18:06.26 | Xinhuan | its server wide |
| 18:06.32 | Frostx- | ok :O |
| 18:06.43 | Xinhuan | as long as somebody is standing near you with an item equipped, it will be in your local cache |
| 18:06.46 | Coruss | Frostx-: to be precise, it can also be viewed if the link is transmitted across battlegroups in pvp |
| 18:07.08 | Coruss | Xinhuan: won't it also be in your cache if you use atlasloot to query the server for it? |
| 18:07.08 | Frostx- | Mm i see :D |
| 18:07.14 | Xinhuan | yes Coruss |
| 18:07.19 | Coruss | thought so |
| 18:07.31 | Xinhuan | hence i have a specific note that says you have to obtain itemlinks (preferably from atlasloot) |
| 18:07.50 | Frostx- | you won't get dc'd if you use atlasloot? (never used it) |
| 18:07.53 | Xinhuan | and of course, your cache will be all gone on patch days |
| 18:08.04 | Xinhuan | you will, if you query the server for something it hasn't seen before |
| 18:08.06 | Coruss | Frostx-: you will get DC'd if no one on your server has seen it |
| 18:08.30 | Frostx- | ok :O |
| 18:08.47 | Xinhuan | i always backup my cache folder now, esp when the wow launcher updates itself lol! |
| 18:08.52 | Xinhuan | it deletes the cache then too |
| 18:08.57 | Xinhuan | or when you install a PTR |
| 18:09.03 | Xinhuan | kinda annoying |
| 18:09.21 | Coruss | *shrug* you really need everything cached? |
| 18:09.30 | Xinhuan | well i run a in-game !item bot |
| 18:09.38 | Coruss | aaah |
| 18:09.40 | Xinhuan | that spitsback results and itemlinks and which boss drops it |
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| 18:09.51 | Xinhuan | so lootlink+atlasloot loaded |
| 18:09.58 | Coruss | ya, atlasloot really needs a better search |
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| 18:10.11 | Xinhuan | i just trawl through all 8 tables in 3 nested loops |
| 18:10.32 | Xinhuan | searches take about 0.3 secs on my 1.5mhz machine ~_~ |
| 18:10.42 | Xinhuan | or a bit less than that |
| 18:10.52 | Coruss | w0w megahertz? that's craaazy fast, j/k |
| 18:11.05 | Xinhuan | hmm ghz :( |
| 18:11.08 | Coruss | :) |
| 18:11.23 | CIA-23 | 03adirelle * r45906 10CastYeller/Locale-deDE.lua: CastYeller: deDE spelling. |
| 18:12.21 | Xinhuan | i wonder how much traffic/bandwidth SendAddonMessage() is using up |
| 18:12.52 | Xinhuan | consider a 40 man AV-raid, every member is sending addon messages to 39 other ppl, whether they run mods or not |
| 18:13.18 | Coruss | true enough |
| 18:13.52 | Frostx- | you know, i've been wanting to do some lua coding since i'm taking programming in uni, but i realised i have nothing to code :< |
| 18:14.00 | Frostx- | there's an addon for almost everything you could need |
| 18:14.07 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 18:14.21 | Oridan | its that *almost* you have to look at :) |
| 18:14.26 | Coruss | ya |
| 18:14.43 | Frostx- | yeah |
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| 18:14.53 | Coruss | best to start simple and get a feel for it, if you really can't find something, look at improving an existing addon |
| 18:14.58 | Frostx- | except i can't figure out what it is |
| 18:15.07 | Xinhuan | i use my own bars, own jewelcrafting ui, and some other stuff |
| 18:15.11 | Coruss | we all have little gripes about our addons |
| 18:15.17 | Coruss | *cough* atlasloot searching, etc |
| 18:15.32 | Xinhuan | atlasloot searching isn't even difficult :o |
| 18:15.33 | Frostx- | well my current ui works nicely for me, and there's no feature i'd really like to add to it.. => |
| 18:15.35 | Frostx- | =< |
| 18:15.39 | Xinhuan | its just 3 nested FOR loops |
| 18:15.46 | Oridan | well, i had the same thing Frostx-, then i realised that every raid my guild leader would be nagging me to reshout myself... figured i needed a reminder ^^ |
| 18:15.54 | Tornhoof | 3 nested for loops is bad ;) |
| 18:16.04 | Coruss | Xinhuan: not talking about API side searching, I mean the built in search, you have to give it a complete item name, can't do partial searches |
| 18:16.16 | RaydenUnicyclist | if i'm not doing any raiding, is dungeon set3 as good as i can get? |
| 18:16.25 | Coruss | nested loops is always bad, recursion is better |
| 18:16.37 | Coruss | better performance, and infinitely scalable |
| 18:16.41 | Xinhuan | but that's what atlasloot data tables are - the first table layer is the categories - second table layer is the instance - and 3rd table layer is the loot item itself |
| 18:17.00 | Xinhuan | substring searching is so trivial i dont know why Dan couldn't put it in |
| 18:17.10 | Coruss | granted, my comment was more about substring searching |
| 18:17.31 | Oridan | afaik PT3Browser also requires the exact name for searches ? |
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| 18:18.33 | Coruss | oh ya, the other tiny annoyance about searching, when you search for an item in atlasloot, it takes you to the page for the boss that drops it, but doesn't change the table selections, unless you've got every boss name memorized, it can be bloody hard to figure out which instance they're from |
| 18:18.36 | Xinhuan | remember my !item bot i run ingame? it trawls through the tables and finds the boss that drops it, so half the time its used on /g, its !item [wehre does this drop from] |
| 18:19.05 | Saint-N | you mean youdont have them memorized? |
| 18:19.09 | Saint-N | heathen! |
| 18:19.10 | Xinhuan | hell no |
| 18:19.13 | Coruss | not all of them |
| 18:19.16 | Coruss | most, not all |
| 18:19.26 | Jaxon | Jesus christ, I feel like a fucking idiot. |
| 18:19.30 | Coruss | ? |
| 18:19.40 | Dustwhisper- | oooh Xinhuan that sounds nice |
| 18:19.53 | Oridan | you wont find one in here Jaxon, i'm leaving soon.... |
| 18:20.09 | Xinhuan | the other half of the time its used, is mainly to get a linkable link |
| 18:20.17 | Jaxon | When I was switching around harddrives back in March when I got my new MacPro, I forgot to update my hosts.allow, hosts.deny and smtp authentication settings on my serverbox. |
| 18:20.21 | Jaxon | :( |
| 18:20.27 | Coruss | Xinhuan: does it return just the boss name or the instance as well? |
| 18:20.40 | Xinhuan | i have the same bot written in IRC |
| 18:20.46 | Xinhuan | but ive disabled it in this channel |
| 18:20.58 | Xinhuan | because someone once used it and both Thrae and me spammed replies |
| 18:21.01 | Xinhuan | and i got kicked |
| 18:21.15 | Coruss | lol |
| 18:21.28 | Coruss | Jaxon: well at least now you have it figured out |
| 18:21.34 | Dustwhisper- | what is the addon called ? |
| 18:21.46 | Xinhuan | it returns "Obtained from: NAXXSaapphiron" or whatever after the tooltip text spam |
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| 18:21.57 | Jaxon | Coruss: yeah, but it is just retardly stupid of me. |
| 18:21.58 | Xinhuan | its just the table index name |
| 18:22.05 | Xinhuan | used in the atlastloot tables itself |
| 18:22.19 | Coruss | good enough, it's better than atlasloots own implementation |
| 18:24.16 | Coruss | hmm now here's an idea for an addon, a tooltip addon, that adds a clickable icon to itemlinks, when clicked it would 'copy' the name of the item linked, and you could drop the copy into any textfield, making for easy AH/AtlasLoot searching |
| 18:24.54 | Xinhuan | i simply "Press Enter", "Shift Click the link to type it in the chat", then Ctrl+A, Ctrl+V |
| 18:25.06 | Xinhuan | and press ESC to close the ChatEditFrame |
| 18:25.20 | Coruss | works, but I've been hankering for dropable item names into textfields for awhile |
| 18:25.27 | Xinhuan | hey it works for updating DKP on dkp sites |
| 18:25.47 | Coruss | basically for checking the AH to see if a BoE I want to sell is already on the AH, so I can compare and set prices |
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| 18:26.09 | Xinhuan | you know you can shift-click an item in your bags, and the AH search box will copy the name there right? |
| 18:26.14 | Xinhuan | doesn't work on links though |
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| 18:26.29 | Xinhuan | but yeah, an addon could do that |
| 18:26.31 | Coruss | I didn't know that |
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| 18:26.39 | deltron | UI mods are a huge part, they will add a threat meter into the game! They are also talking about adding a Deadly Boss Mods element into the game |
| 18:26.43 | deltron | WUT |
| 18:26.46 | Xinhuan | yeah just means yoou can't split-stacks if you have the AH search window open |
| 18:27.09 | Coruss | meh, if I'm ever splitting stacks its on the auction posting page |
| 18:27.27 | Bam__ | there is a small syntax error in the french localization of RangeDisplay... think it's ok if I fix it? |
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| 18:27.35 | Xinhuan | ya, but i normally shift-click a pileof stuff in my bags to search for them, see the lowest price and undercut that |
| 18:27.38 | Xinhuan | its very convenient |
| 18:27.48 | Xinhuan | for whatever i want to sell |
| 18:27.52 | Coruss | that's what I do too, didn't know the shift-click copied the name tho |
| 18:28.02 | Xinhuan | go try it |
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| 18:28.11 | Coruss | lol after work maybe |
| 18:28.58 | Benjamin | have a slightly nub question What do i have to put in the toc so that the svn will put in the revision number? |
| 18:29.34 | Bam__ | Benjamin: have you set the SVN properties on the file? |
| 18:29.52 | Bam__ | ... |
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| 18:30.20 | Benjamin | not yet |
| 18:30.46 | Xinhuan | so .. i'm hungry :( |
| 18:31.08 | Bam__ | it depends on what keywords you have enabled... but it would be something like $Revision: 1$ |
| 18:31.12 | Saint-N | i just had a double meat and cheese subway melt |
| 18:31.16 | Saint-N | it was yummy |
| 18:31.32 | Benjamin | thanks Bam i will try to figure it out |
| 18:31.45 | Xinhuan | the nearest 24-hour foodstuff is actually mcdonalds lol |
| 18:31.51 | Xinhuan | 10 min away |
| 18:31.57 | Xinhuan | by walking |
| 18:32.20 | Fwi1 | if it wasn't McDonalds, that wouldn't be so bad |
| 18:32.37 | Xinhuan | mcdonalds in singapore operate 24/7 |
| 18:32.45 | Xinhuan | they also do home delivery 24/7 (for $2 flat fee) |
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| 18:32.56 | Xinhuan | so i could technically call them for a meal, and they deliver within 30 minutes |
| 18:33.00 | Xinhuan | usually faster |
| 18:33.14 | Xinhuan | no minimum order either |
| 18:33.22 | Mellow_ | nevcairiel: sorry to disturbing you again, but if cant kill fin_wait status, is it possible to prevent them? |
| 18:33.22 | Xinhuan | but i think there's a maximum order |
| 18:34.24 | nevcairiel | Mellow_: i dont think so, its caused by faulty or disrupted tcp traffic |
| 18:34.32 | nevcairiel | Mellow_: lower the fin value more |
| 18:34.37 | nevcairiel | _may_ help |
| 18:35.02 | Mellow_ | the client opens a port to bind the traffic |
| 18:35.10 | Mellow_ | but in this case, if its fin_wait1, its not possible |
| 18:35.20 | Mellow_ | so if i restart the app it will suck |
| 18:36.12 | Chompers | those sporebats in ssc suck balls |
| 18:36.37 | Xinhuan | the fish sucks more :) |
| 18:36.37 | Chompers | if you're out of melee they'll charge, if you're in melee they'll do a 2k aoe attack |
| 18:36.40 | Chompers | you can't win |
| 18:36.49 | Xinhuan | and the seawitch is the winner |
| 18:38.07 | CIA-23 | 03usz * r45907 10TooltipExchange/ (Core.lua Modules/Loot.lua Modules/UI.lua): |
| 18:38.07 | CIA-23 | TooltipExchange |
| 18:38.07 | CIA-23 | - Adjusted gems item types and subtypes |
| 18:38.07 | CIA-23 | - Added BT and MH raid loot menu categories |
| 18:38.07 | CIA-23 | - Small fix in item updating code |
| 18:39.11 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45908 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 18:39.11 | CIA-23 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 18:39.11 | CIA-23 | - Now accepts tags with variable length argument lists |
| 18:39.11 | CIA-23 | - Updated Maximum and Minimum tags to accept 2 or more parameters |
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| 18:42.11 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45909 10Assessment/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:42.11 | CIA-23 | Assessment |
| 18:42.11 | CIA-23 | - Direct access tags now use variable length parameter lists rather than parsing data tree 'paths'. This is a huge benefit for display sets such as avoidance, critical hit rates, critical heal rates |
| 18:42.11 | CIA-23 | - Updated all of the display sets that used direct access tags (GetField, GetValueField, SumField, SumValueField, etc.) |
| 18:43.44 | Benjamin | hmmm i still cant quite figure out how to add teh revision data to the toc am using tortoise |
| 18:45.31 | Benjamin | anyone know how to set that up? |
| 18:46.03 | Gngsk | $revision$ ? |
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| 18:46.09 | ckknight | Benjamin: svn:keywords |
| 18:46.46 | Coruss | jme: you're the other mac user in here right? |
| 18:46.57 | jme | Coruss: yeah |
| 18:46.58 | Gngsk | there's only 2? o_O |
| 18:47.05 | jme | one of them, i guess |
| 18:47.15 | Coruss | lol |
| 18:47.21 | deltron | mjc is a mac user also |
| 18:47.24 | Benjamin | for the propertyvalue i then use $revision$? and put the same in the toc? |
| 18:47.39 | Coruss | jme: do you actually write addons? or just like to hang out in here like me |
| 18:47.49 | jme | Coruss: i just chill in here :) |
| 18:47.58 | Coruss | lol, ok |
| 18:48.02 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45910 10Recount/ (Sync.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Your pets are now properly tracked even if there is another pet up with the same name for the damage they do |
| 18:48.11 | Coruss | trying to find out if there's a lua project/syntax parser for xcode |
| 18:48.23 | jme | Coruss: not sure, i use textmate for coding |
| 18:48.41 | jme | and it has lua syntax highlighting iirc |
| 18:48.52 | Coruss | ya I use visual studio on pc, or programmer's notepad for non-ms stuff |
| 18:49.04 | Coruss | been wanting to try xcode as an IDE |
| 18:49.06 | Dustwhisper- | yea VS is an amazing IDE |
| 18:49.19 | jme | actually, i don't think textmate has lua builtins |
| 18:49.21 | jme | interesting. |
| 18:49.30 | Coruss | 2k5 has some huge improvements |
| 18:49.38 | Coruss | it's one of the few M$ products to actual improve over time |
| 18:49.42 | Saint-N | notepad2! |
| 18:49.44 | Coruss | *actually |
| 18:49.54 | Saint-N | coruss: what about minesweeper |
| 18:50.04 | Saint-N | thats gotten pretty awesome in vista |
| 18:50.06 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 18:50.08 | Dustwhisper- | no matter what people say |
| 18:50.14 | Coruss | lol, haven't tried it in vista myself |
| 18:50.15 | Dustwhisper- | i still think the latest office is pretty neat |
| 18:50.18 | Dustwhisper- | the GUI is very slick |
| 18:50.24 | Dustwhisper- | it's rather intuitive aswell |
| 18:50.27 | Dustwhisper- | just very different from the old |
| 18:50.31 | Saint-N | exchange 2k7 is pretty nice too |
| 18:50.32 | Coruss | I used vista for a weekend to give it a test-drive, and gagged at it |
| 18:50.33 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45911 10Assessment/Modules/ (Damage.lua Healing.lua): |
| 18:50.33 | CIA-23 | Assessment |
| 18:50.33 | CIA-23 | - Unified some tags so that caching will save a few tables |
| 18:50.41 | Saint-N | as much as i hate to say it |
| 18:50.42 | Xinhuan | whats new in vista minesweeper :o |
| 18:50.55 | Saint-N | Xinhuan: absolutely nothing ;P |
| 18:51.04 | Coruss | pretty != functional, they make the stuff that was already easy easier, and the configuration stuff even harder |
| 18:51.38 | Coruss | basically they've consistently made it harder to tweak out windows with each version, and I'm just tired of learning yet another M$ methodology |
| 18:52.12 | Coruss | my 2c, please disregard as useful |
| 18:52.22 | Coruss | *useless |
| 18:53.52 | Coruss | does anyone in here develop in lua on a mac? |
| 18:54.02 | fireglow | Help :D my keyboard layout changed from DE to US ingame, how to fix that. i once used a certain command but cant remember it |
| 18:54.05 | fireglow | and help? |
| 18:54.12 | fireglow | cant restart, raiding :( |
| 18:54.53 | Xinhuan | argh so i switched from CT_Mailmod to Postal, and i am missing the alt-click-to-trade feature :( |
| 18:55.12 | jme | fireglow: no clue |
| 18:55.25 | jme | fireglow: you can't go afk for like 2 minutes and restart? |
| 18:55.40 | Dustwhisper- | fireglow alt+shift |
| 18:55.43 | fireglow | nah :( |
| 18:55.51 | fireglow | ah! |
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| 18:55.52 | Coruss | isn't keyboard layout controlled by the host OS? |
| 18:55.56 | jme | oh |
| 18:55.57 | fireglow | Dustwhisper-: thank you <3 |
| 18:56.00 | jme | interesting |
| 18:56.20 | fireglow | guess i changed that while trying to move frames around |
| 18:56.25 | fireglow | awww 1000 thanks Dustwhisper- |
| 18:56.36 | Xinhuan | yeah alt-shift is the standard windows shortcut for switching between input languages in MS |
| 18:56.48 | Xinhuan | and its left-alt-shift at that |
| 18:57.06 | mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=MkRxjrlgzp0 <3 |
| 18:57.08 | Coruss | aaah |
| 18:57.31 | Xinhuan | you can disable that in the regional settings in control panel, or maybe its keyboard settings |
| 18:59.01 | jme | leet, there is a textmate lua bundle |
| 18:59.26 | fireglow | ye :) |
| 19:02.38 | CIA-23 | 03boydon * r45912 10WoWHead-Cart-Scraper/ (cart_db_generator.htm cart_db_generator_php.htm): |
| 19:02.38 | CIA-23 | WoWHead-Cart-Scraper: |
| 19:02.38 | CIA-23 | - renamed cart_db_generator.htm to cart_db_generator_php.htm to make it clear it is a php script |
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| 19:09.42 | CIA-23 | 03darkimakuni * r45913 10Postal/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:09.42 | CIA-23 | Postal: |
| 19:09.42 | CIA-23 | - Trim trailing whitespace |
| 19:09.42 | CIA-23 | - BlackBook: Prevent duplicate Contact entries |
| 19:10.15 | CIA-23 | 03aliset * r45914 10SendSelf/Locale-deDE.lua: |
| 19:10.15 | CIA-23 | SendSelf: |
| 19:10.15 | CIA-23 | - Put in English for untronslated german phrases so that SendSelf will work in German |
| 19:10.15 | CIA-23 | sorry about that! |
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| 19:11.28 | CIA-23 | 03aliset * r45915 10SendSelf/sendself.lua: |
| 19:11.28 | CIA-23 | SendSelf: |
| 19:11.28 | CIA-23 | - Update version number for 1.2 |
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| 19:12.06 | Ominous | evening |
| 19:12.58 | Cheads | which addon is doing the pvp sounds.. "dominating" "killing spree" etc.? =) |
| 19:13.23 | Xinhuan | hmm dont' remember |
| 19:13.29 | Xinhuan | its one of those pvp ones |
| 19:13.58 | Cheads | yeah |
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| 19:16.23 | Ominous | Cyrez: ping |
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| 19:16.35 | Cyrez | Moo! |
| 19:16.36 | dodga | Cheads: Probably NECB |
| 19:16.44 | dodga | Which is the reason I got rid of it... |
| 19:17.13 | Ominous | Cyrez: in wowace-cia is it possible to make people joining and leaving not show ? |
| 19:17.57 | [dRaCo] | Ominous: disable it in your client |
| 19:18.14 | Cheads | yeah it's necb |
| 19:18.32 | Cyrez | Ominous: Not with the server Freenode uses + what [dRaCo] said. |
| 19:18.46 | Ominous | oki |
| 19:18.50 | Cyrez | But doing that is universal, usually. |
| 19:18.56 | Cyrez | At least it is with mIRC. |
| 19:19.01 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 19:19.07 | [dRaCo] | mirc has channel settings for that |
| 19:19.16 | Cyrez | It does? |
| 19:19.28 | [dRaCo] | at least mine does... |
| 19:19.40 | [dRaCo] | might be my script, though |
| 19:19.43 | [dRaCo] | *wonders* |
| 19:19.55 | Cyrez | Probably that. |
| 19:20.24 | Cyrez | If you disable it, you can still catch such data with the scripting. |
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| 19:20.42 | Cyrez | Which I did on a multi-monitor setup at my dad's old work. |
| 19:21.01 | Cheads | dodga you could just disable the sounds... |
| 19:21.31 | Cyrez | Modes, quits, joins and such won't show up in the channels but scripts using those for triggers still fire just the same. |
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| 19:23.10 | CIA-23 | 03cwdg * r45916 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (5 files): BigWigs: Add zhCN local. |
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| 19:28.07 | dodga | Cheads: Yeah, but why does a cast bar addon have sounds in the first place? |
| 19:29.07 | kergoth | because like so many other addons it takes on a scope far beyond what it should |
| 19:30.01 | dodga | kergoth: Which is the reason I got rid of it :> |
| 19:30.05 | Xinhuan | exactly like ICQ and MSN |
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| 19:30.21 | Xinhuan | bloatware |
| 19:31.02 | Cyrez | Not my ICQ and MSN. |
| 19:31.16 | Cyrez | They've been slightly, eh, altered. |
| 19:31.26 | Dustwhisper- | what has happened with recount's "Last fight" option ? |
| 19:31.44 | kergoth | i expect its due to his changes to allow saving fight data |
| 19:31.51 | Xinhuan | wtb patch 2.2 |
| 19:32.03 | kergoth | Xinhuan, agreed, i want those new gem recipes :) |
| 19:32.20 | Xinhuan | speaking of gems, i better go update my gem addon |
| 19:32.29 | Xinhuan | AFTER i get food ;) |
| 19:33.28 | Amadeo | Pidgin is nice, but I was playing StarCraft once when someone IM'd me and it gave me some weird lag that I didn't like |
| 19:33.46 | Xinhuan | starcraft "sucks" cos you can't run it in window mode |
| 19:34.27 | Amadeo | It's probably my piece of crap PC though |
| 19:34.38 | Amadeo | SC in a window would be nice, graphics would look better |
| 19:35.14 | Xinhuan | the onyl way to run starcraft in a window is to use a software that redirects the directx graphics output |
| 19:35.22 | Xinhuan | to a window |
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| 19:35.40 | snurre | just givf sc2 beta nownownow! :( |
| 19:36.09 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45917 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - deprecated :ManualEnable/:ManualDisable in favor of a global :RecheckEnabledStates |
| 19:36.21 | Xinhuan | which is more likely to release first, sc2 or WotLK? hahaha |
| 19:36.37 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45918 10Joker/LibJokerDB-1.0/LibJokerDB-1.0.lua: LibJokerDB-1.0 - use :RecheckEnabledStates instead of :ManualEnable/:ManualDisable |
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| 19:37.35 | snurre | hm, i havent really thought about that, actually.. last rumour i heard was sc2 beta starting in september or so |
| 19:37.47 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45919 10Joker/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0.lua: |
| 19:37.47 | CIA-23 | LibJokerModuleCore-1.0 - use :RecheckEnabledStates instead of :ManualEnable/:ManualDisable |
| 19:37.47 | CIA-23 | - add dependency on LibJokerEvent-1.0 |
| 19:37.47 | CIA-23 | - when a core is disabled, all its modules act as if they are disabled, when it is reenabled, the modules return to their previous state. |
| 19:37.52 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:37.56 | ckknight | whew |
| 19:38.09 | Ominous | :) |
| 19:38.24 | Xinhuan | i think WoW sold more copies in the first 24 hours than harry potter book 7 did .. maybe i'll go check the numbers |
| 19:38.28 | Xinhuan | wow:tbc that is |
| 19:39.51 | snurre | It was released on January 16, 2007 at midnight in Europe, United States and Australia, and sold nearly 2.7 million copies that day |
| 19:39.52 | snurre | Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, was released on 21 July 2007.[4] Publishers announced a record-breaking 12 million copies for the first print run in the U.S. alone.[5] |
| 19:40.19 | Xinhuan | 2.7 mil hmm |
| 19:40.25 | Xinhuan | WoW sold 2.4 mil copies? |
| 19:40.41 | Ominous | and that excludes pre-orders? |
| 19:41.06 | Xinhuan | First expansion TBC sold 2.4 mil copies in the first 24 hours - more than any other PC game in the first month. |
| 19:41.07 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 19:41.16 | Keias | How would the Harry Potter sales looked if you needed all 6 previous books to read the 7th? |
| 19:41.18 | Xinhuan | that information is directly from the opening ceremony |
| 19:41.27 | Xinhuan | of Blizzcon |
| 19:41.44 | snurre | "The seven books published to date have collectively sold more than 325 million copies" |
| 19:41.53 | Xinhuan | well the 7th book is a "climax", the ending of a series |
| 19:41.57 | Xinhuan | wow isn't like that |
| 19:42.09 | NeoTron | it's impressive that an author of 7 books now is the richest woman in the UK |
| 19:42.27 | Keias | Definately good work on her part, that's for sure. |
| 19:42.35 | Xinhuan | i have a copy hehe |
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| 19:43.00 | Xinhuan | but its interesting to put a comparison for wow's first expansion vs harry potter's 7th book |
| 19:43.03 | Keias | I always felt "too old" to get caught up in the Potter craze. :( |
| 19:43.21 | Xinhuan | it isn't too old, its as much an adult story as a children one |
| 19:43.22 | deltron | it always seems like wow is bleeding players |
| 19:43.26 | Keias | It's kind of like an apples/oranges thing to compare a book series to a game |
| 19:43.35 | deltron | I tried reading the first harry potter |
| 19:43.37 | deltron | it bored me to death |
| 19:43.46 | Keias | There's too many factors for the games that prevents extra numbers |
| 19:43.46 | Xinhuan | the first book was definitely targetted at young children |
| 19:43.57 | Keias | Bannings, costs, equipment, ect |
| 19:44.01 | Xinhuan | but when you go to the 3rd book onwards, you can see the plot deepen to the point |
| 19:44.07 | snurre | wow has never "bled" players.. some people leave, others join.. the average concurrency hasn't dropped yet though |
| 19:44.08 | Xinhuan | that its really an adult book now |
| 19:44.26 | Keias | Xinhuan, I've followed the movies but thats about it |
| 19:44.29 | Xinhuan | snurre: a lot of the people that quit, rejoin too! |
| 19:44.40 | Xinhuan | simply because of the lack of any other semi-decent MMO out there |
| 19:44.40 | snurre | yep |
| 19:45.14 | Xinhuan | wow is the first of its kind to even truly offer total UI customization |
| 19:45.14 | deltron | what does reading the book offer that the movies don't though? |
| 19:45.30 | Keias | Well I'm sure there's some noticable differences to the reads |
| 19:45.31 | Xinhuan | the books have very deep plots that the movie cannot portray in 2 hours |
| 19:45.32 | deltron | other than the first 2 movies were quite boring |
| 19:45.33 | deltron | hehe |
| 19:45.56 | Xinhuan | the movie is really just a shallow version of the book |
| 19:46.03 | Keias | All book to screen adaptations are normally cut down a bit |
| 19:46.17 | Xinhuan | this is more than a bit though |
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| 19:46.32 | Xinhuan | if you look at the triwizard cup book, the movie was only like 1/3 of the book |
| 19:46.43 | snurre | some are completely rewritten too.. *cough*bourne*cough* |
| 19:46.45 | hypetech | how do I move the ArenaMaster window? |
| 19:46.54 | Xinhuan | hypetech: hold down ALT and drag |
| 19:47.07 | hypetech | Xinhuan: I tried that :-\ |
| 19:47.12 | Xinhuan | drag the title |
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| 19:47.17 | hypetech | ah |
| 19:47.28 | NeoTron | Intersting JK Rowling is the only billionaire author |
| 19:47.47 | Xinhuan | you have to read the books to understand why ;p |
| 19:47.59 | Xinhuan | its different from other authors |
| 19:49.01 | deltron | snurre: I heard that about bourne :P I just watched the first movie, will probably watch the 2nd tonight |
| 19:49.41 | Cyrez | My favorite part of book 4 wasn't even in the movie. |
| 19:49.52 | Xinhuan | there is a lot of minute details in every book, that become significant in the later books |
| 19:50.20 | Xinhuan | even a small "smile of triump" means a lot! |
| 19:50.29 | Xinhuan | triumph |
| 19:50.44 | kebinusan | The 4th movie was a dismal failure at converting a book to a movie |
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| 19:51.02 | Xinhuan | and the wording of many of the things |
| 19:51.04 | snurre | deltron: the movies are awesome.. but the only thing they have in common with the books are the names.. none of the story (other than a guy with amnesia) |
| 19:51.05 | Xinhuan | does matter |
| 19:51.45 | kebinusan | yeah the bourne movies may have a basic premise from the books but its a pretty different story |
| 19:51.49 | NeoTron | the books have more detail but unless you make the book into a series, that has to happen |
| 19:51.57 | NeoTron | for any book unless it's a short story |
| 19:51.59 | kebinusan | Some books translate better to movies than others though |
| 19:52.03 | NeoTron | true |
| 19:52.07 | Xinhuan | like Eragorn... the movie was like 40% of the book, and 60% madeup LOL |
| 19:52.15 | NeoTron | 2001 I think was an example of a book that did NOT translate very well |
| 19:52.34 | Tornhoof | eragorn was crap |
| 19:52.36 | Tornhoof | huge crao |
| 19:52.39 | NeoTron | Eregon was... Ugh. it wasn't even CLOSE to the book in any way shape or form |
| 19:52.40 | Tornhoof | -o+o |
| 19:52.42 | kebinusan | Dune didnt translate very well |
| 19:52.49 | Xinhuan | yep the movie was really crap |
| 19:52.52 | Xinhuan | the book is nice though |
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| 19:53.00 | NeoTron | it's not that eregon didn't translate well - it'd make a good movie |
| 19:53.01 | kergoth | i dont see how dune could possibly translate, i dont think they shoudl have even tried |
| 19:53.04 | NeoTron | they just fucked it up grearly |
| 19:53.16 | Tornhoof | ahh well the original movie wasn't that bad |
| 19:53.20 | kebinusan | kergoth: yeah |
| 19:53.32 | Xinhuan | Dune doesn't translate well because its plot is too deeply tied to be portrayed in a movie |
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| 19:53.33 | CIA-23 | unpackListAndDel(newList(...)) => ... |
| 19:53.33 | CIA-23 | unpackSetAndDel(newSet(...)) => ... |
| 19:53.33 | CIA-23 | unpackDictAndDel(newDict(...)) => ... |
| 19:53.35 | CIA-23 | newList(unpackListAndDel(t)) => t |
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| 19:53.40 | kebinusan | Tornhoof, it wasnt bad.. the extended version of the oringal movie held pretty true |
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| 19:54.02 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 19:54.06 | ckknight | Xinhuan: the spice must flow |
| 19:54.12 | Xinhuan | there's just stuff in a book you can't bring to the screen |
| 19:54.21 | Xinhuan | concepts of why "something is so" |
| 19:54.34 | jme | a cool thing for wowjutsu would be to rank characters by class |
| 19:54.53 | Evenue | Hi all. |
| 19:54.54 | jme | that would be interesting |
| 19:54.59 | kebinusan | and patrick stewart was an amazing portrayal of gourney halleck imo |
| 19:55.31 | Xinhuan | there's a studio making a Lonewolf computer game, true to thegamebook series |
| 19:55.35 | Xinhuan | wonder how that would turn out |
| 19:55.59 | kebinusan | I cant see wheel of time translated to movie cause jordan is just so damn verbose |
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| 19:56.14 | Evenue | So like... I'm about to do the whole first commit thing. Followed the SVN for Beginners to the letter... anything else I need to worry about? (besides breaking the webbernets) |
| 19:56.17 | kebinusan | Id like to see a enders game/enders shadow movie though |
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| 19:56.32 | snurre | hell yes! |
| 19:56.32 | Xinhuan | at the moment, i want the Wheel of Time series to end/complete though |
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| 19:56.41 | Tornhoof | enders shadow rather than enders game |
| 19:56.42 | snurre | ender is ownage |
| 19:57.06 | kebinusan | Xinhuan, yeah one more book |
| 19:57.17 | Xinhuan | looking forward to it |
| 19:57.24 | Tornhoof | forget it |
| 19:57.25 | Xinhuan | because book 7-11 dragged the story |
| 19:57.31 | kergoth | i feel like jordan suckered me. i read enough to love the characters, now i keep reading them despite hating the way he's dragging it on and on |
| 19:57.36 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 19:57.37 | Tornhoof | he'll introduce 200 new chars, 500 new plots in the last book |
| 19:57.37 | kebinusan | I actually like d10 and 11 |
| 19:57.42 | Xinhuan | 1-6 was so good, and 7-11 was a drag |
| 19:57.52 | kebinusan | 7-9 were a drag imo |
| 19:57.56 | kebinusan | 10 and 11 picked it up a bit |
| 19:57.59 | kergoth | i really liked book 1, half the time i jus treread that and none of the others |
| 19:58.07 | Xinhuan | 11 closed a lot of plotlines |
| 19:58.07 | snurre | will be interesting to see if any of the ender games will be cool (if they ever arrive).. read an article where orson scott card was mentioning several ideas he had about games |
| 19:58.21 | Xinhuan | but 12 will prob be a really massive book |
| 19:58.30 | kebinusan | yeah, he needs a better editor |
| 19:58.34 | Xinhuan | hope he finishes it |
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| 19:58.49 | dodga | What could cause, that I never stay in any custom channel I joined? Could Prat's reordering of channels have something to do with that? |
| 19:58.59 | kebinusan | Someone once described wheel of time to me as something like... Each book is exactly halfway to the end of the story |
| 19:59.03 | Xinhuan | he has terminal illness that is expected to not last him another year |
| 19:59.12 | kebinusan | certainly feels to drag on that way |
| 19:59.12 | kergoth | i'm really looking forward to the next george r.r. martin book.. now /that/ is a plot i can truly enjoy |
| 19:59.59 | kebinusan | He's said he intends to finish WoT, 2 prequels, an encyclopedia and maybe a couple offshoot stories |
| 20:00.09 | kebinusan | who knows what he'll actually get done |
| 20:00.16 | Xinhuan | he can't |
| 20:00.24 | Xinhuan | he has terminal illness that is not expected to last him another year |
| 20:00.31 | Xinhuan | maybe even less than half a year now |
| 20:00.43 | CIA-23 | 03evenue * r45922 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: |
| 20:00.43 | CIA-23 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 20:00.43 | CIA-23 | - added missing engineering and alchemy recipes |
| 20:00.43 | CIA-23 | - removed erroneous Armorsmith and Weaponsmith requirements |
| 20:00.48 | Xinhuan | his wife will finish the book for him if it happens |
| 20:01.06 | Tornhoof | we'll see that with david gemmel's third troy book |
| 20:01.10 | Tornhoof | his wife finishing that one |
| 20:01.13 | Xinhuan | since they work on the books together, and the majority of the audience will accept her ending as his |
| 20:02.10 | charon | Antiarc|Work: ping? |
| 20:02.14 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 20:02.24 | charon | Threat-1.0\ThreatMobNameTranslation.lua:149: Conflicting translation for Enchanted Elemental in deDE: old is "Verzauberter Elementar", new is "Unbekannt". Please report to Antiarc.: |
| 20:02.44 | charon | spurious bug in wow? (unbekannt = unknown) |
| 20:02.46 | Xinhuan | its weird though, harry potter didn't generate overnight queues of ppl over here, but TBC launch generated quite a bit |
| 20:02.47 | Antiarc|Work | Bah, that's still in. |
| 20:02.49 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, it's a lag thing. |
| 20:02.55 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 20:03.07 | charon | ok... np :) |
| 20:03.35 | kebinusan | Im not one to go hang outside a store for a midnight opener, to me that seems to much a lack of self control.. I can wait till morning |
| 20:03.48 | Xinhuan | it isn't a midnight launch in singapore in that sense |
| 20:03.56 | kergoth | Tornhoof, how are the troy books? i've read most of the series starting with druss the legend, but not the troy ones yet |
| 20:03.58 | Xinhuan | because midnight in UK is 7am in singapore, and 9am in australia |
| 20:04.05 | Xinhuan | so that was when they were launched |
| 20:04.09 | Xinhuan | 7am in singapore and 9am in aus |
| 20:04.17 | kergoth | hm, forgot i read the jon shannow books too.. i should read the troy ones |
| 20:04.32 | Tornhoof | the troy ones are fairly nice |
| 20:04.42 | Tornhoof | you should read dan simmon's ilias version too |
| 20:04.46 | Xinhuan | TBC was launched at 1pm in singapore |
| 20:04.58 | Xinhuan | that coincides with the actual launch in US |
| 20:05.15 | Xinhuan | the queue was some 5k ppl ~_~ |
| 20:05.18 | Tornhoof | i think the second troy book was better than the first, pitty that gemmell is dead though, druss series was one of my favorites |
| 20:05.21 | buu | kergoth: The Troy ones are good, but not my favorite. Have you read the skilganons? |
| 20:05.42 | kergoth | dan simmons.. i thought i recognized that name, i read his hyperion cantos |
| 20:05.43 | kergoth | nope |
| 20:05.52 | buu | Damn it, gemmel is dead?! |
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| 20:05.59 | buu | Why do people keep dying in the middle of good series. |
| 20:06.17 | Xinhuan | because it happens |
| 20:06.51 | Tornhoof | yeh gemmel died mid 2006 after some heart bypass or something |
| 20:07.07 | Xinhuan | i didn't know that :( |
| 20:07.12 | Xinhuan | i liked some of his books |
| 20:07.29 | buu | Bastards. |
| 20:07.44 | Tornhoof | i didn't like the jon shannon books |
| 20:07.53 | buu | kergoth: Have you perchance ever read Deathstalker ? |
| 20:07.53 | Tornhoof | reminded me too much of that stephen king series |
| 20:08.04 | Xinhuan | gonna get food, bbl |
| 20:09.12 | kergoth | i havent, though its on my "to read" list. been whittling away at that list lately.. read 5 books last weekend.. methinks the gf will want me to spread them out more in the future :P |
| 20:09.38 | jme | lol |
| 20:10.21 | buu | kergoth: Deathstalker is fucking amazing. |
| 20:10.43 | Saint-N | deathstalker? |
| 20:10.59 | buu | A book series. |
| 20:11.02 | buu | Not the movie =] |
| 20:11.07 | Tornhoof | i didn't like that |
| 20:11.10 | Saint-N | awww |
| 20:11.10 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:11.15 | buu | Technically speaking I think the title is "The life and times of Owen Deathstalker" |
| 20:11.23 | buu | Pssh, if you didn't like them, you suck. |
| 20:11.40 | Saint-N | whats the general gist of it? |
| 20:12.03 | kergoth | kk i'll read those next. currently reading david weber's war gods books.. starting with Oath of Swords.. not bad |
| 20:12.21 | Saint-N | Add World War Z to the list |
| 20:12.25 | Saint-N | its a great book |
| 20:13.21 | buu | Saint-N: A very very abbreviated summary, it's space opera in the far future, theirs an empire of man that rules basically all known space, the current queen is evill, declares our hero, a harmless historian, to be outlawed and puts a massive price on his head. People try to kill him, he runs away, eventually ends up starting a rebellion. After that the fun really begins. |
| 20:13.39 | buu | Er, there's ? |
| 20:14.05 | Saint-N | i think ive read that |
| 20:14.08 | Saint-N | or parts of it |
| 20:14.19 | Saint-N | or something similar |
| 20:14.20 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:14.42 | Saint-N | anyone remember a book called the net of dreams? |
| 20:15.08 | Chompers | fishing 375, thankyou Lurker for killing us so many times :D |
| 20:15.18 | Saint-N | where a guy creates virtual video game and itgoes haywire and develops intelligen e and everyone inside is trapped so he has togo in and "play" the game to the end boss to disable it and save people? |
| 20:15.25 | Cryect | This is driving me insane this line a[2][PosA]=100*a[2][PosA]/(Temp+Epsilon) in my code shouldn't be turning a loop into infinite recursion >_> |
| 20:15.56 | jme | Cryect: fail |
| 20:15.57 | buu | Saint-N: Now that's original. |
| 20:16.10 | Saint-N | buu: heh yeah it was written back in 85 86 though |
| 20:16.17 | Saint-N | had alsorts of bad jokes in it |
| 20:16.20 | buu | Heh. |
| 20:16.24 | Cryect | its annoying I comment it the loop works fine even though the value being stored isn't used by the loop at all for escape conditions |
| 20:16.28 | Saint-N | a cleric names Justin Tyme |
| 20:16.30 | buu | Speaking of bad jokes, there's a series of books by Rick Cook.. |
| 20:16.37 | Saint-N | Father Tyme |
| 20:16.44 | Saint-N | his niddle name was nicholas |
| 20:16.47 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42783 <-- new ability of astromancer |
| 20:16.48 | Saint-N | Justin Nick Tyme |
| 20:16.51 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.51 | NeoTron | YOU ARE THE BOMB |
| 20:16.52 | NeoTron | whee |
| 20:16.58 | Saint-N | stuff like that through out the whole book |
| 20:17.19 | jme | Cryect: but could the order of operatins be screwing it up? |
| 20:17.22 | NeoTron | Cryect: I saw the history of fights - very nice |
| 20:17.22 | jme | Cryect: s/but// |
| 20:17.33 | NeoTron | Cryect: what I miss now is the "last fight" ability ;-) |
| 20:17.56 | jme | Cryect: as in would a[2][PosA]=(100*a[2][PosA])/(Temp+Epsilon) make a difference |
| 20:18.01 | NeoTron | Cryect: also might be nice to have a way to avoid trivial fights ("killed a rat") |
| 20:19.23 | charon | do you use melee or ranged for elementals at vashj? |
| 20:19.26 | Cryect | it shouldn't |
| 20:19.32 | Cryect | here's the full loop http://pastey.net/71910 |
| 20:20.24 | NeoTron | charon: ranged makes more sense. melee would waste mor time running around |
| 20:20.29 | NeoTron | melee are best used on elites |
| 20:20.48 | NeoTron | reason all strats says the opposite is because the elite nagas used to have an impossibly stupid cleave |
| 20:21.13 | NeoTron | (affliction) warlocks and hunters are super |
| 20:21.21 | NeoTron | locks just dot the target up and move to the next one |
| 20:21.39 | jme | :X |
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| 20:22.04 | NeoTron | mind you this is all theory.. we haven't killed vashj yet and haven't tested with this strategy.. last time we blindly used a "melee on elementals" strat |
| 20:22.41 | Tornhoof | melees should just help after a tainted spawned |
| 20:23.09 | NeoTron | shouldn't be needed |
| 20:23.17 | charon | ok thanks |
| 20:23.20 | NeoTron | they don't have enough time to "come help" other than to pass the bucket so to speak |
| 20:23.23 | charon | will try to convince them -.- |
| 20:23.33 | charon | right now i'm just running around in circles trying to catch them |
| 20:23.36 | NeoTron | IF you use melee, dps warriors > rogues since they can charge |
| 20:23.49 | NeoTron | (and druids) |
| 20:23.58 | NeoTron | with elites, all you do as melee is stand still and pwn |
| 20:26.10 | Amadeo | wtf, Apple unveils their new iMac, and it's the same design |
| 20:26.26 | zeeg | Which of you hosts on Curse and wants to give me feedback on the new ticket system? |
| 20:26.52 | jme | Amadeo: fail |
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| 20:27.12 | jme | is it just a hardware upgrade? |
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| 20:27.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 20:27.40 | Amadeo | Yeah, and it's not white anymore |
| 20:28.26 | ccKep | man, I'm lovin' blizzards bugged fuck encounters |
| 20:28.32 | ccKep | 8/7 22:24:45.341 Fire Nova Totem VII's Fire Nova hits Inner Demon for 600 Fire damage. |
| 20:28.32 | ccKep | 8/7 22:24:45.998 Inner Demon dies. |
| 20:28.33 | ccKep | 8/7 22:24:49.013 You are afflicted by Consuming Madness. |
| 20:29.06 | ccKep | I guess I'm supposed to kill them with my uber melee damage and earth shock every 6s then ^.^ |
| 20:29.19 | Cryect | Its a known bug if you aren't the one that kills the target |
| 20:29.21 | Cryect | you get MC'ed |
| 20:29.27 | NeoTron | if pets (or damage shields) gets the killing blow.. yeah |
| 20:29.33 | Cryect | it happens in AV also |
| 20:29.39 | Cryect | if a pet or something gets the KB in mines |
| 20:29.44 | Cryect | the mine doesn't convert |
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| 20:31.07 | ccKep | blizz should hire some decent programmers |
| 20:31.16 | nevcairiel | Cryect: only you can dmg the inner demon.. |
| 20:31.32 | nevcairiel | or you mean the totem? |
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| 20:33.27 | Tornhoof | don't use the totem |
| 20:33.35 | Tornhoof | just lbolt, earthshock |
| 20:33.40 | Tornhoof | that's enoug |
| 20:33.41 | Tornhoof | h |
| 20:34.01 | Saint-N | boobies! |
| 20:34.05 | Saint-N | yay \o/ |
| 20:34.10 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45923 10fmBuffCheck/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua fmBuffCheck.lua): |
| 20:34.10 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 20:34.10 | CIA-23 | - fixed flask and elixir handling (I think) |
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| 20:35.07 | zeeg | I know one of you wants to help test the new tickets system |
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| 20:35.47 | Cryect | nevcairiel: I mean you have to get the killing blow |
| 20:35.50 | Cryect | if the totem gets it |
| 20:35.58 | Cryect | then you dont' get credited as killing the demon |
| 20:36.31 | Saint-N | zeeg: do we get a free puppy? |
| 20:38.11 | zeeg | no :( |
| 20:38.13 | Saint-N | boooo |
| 20:38.55 | Kaelten | no free puppies! |
| 20:39.09 | Kaelten | they shed |
| 20:39.47 | Saint-N | but you can use that to stuff pillows and duvets for warm winter blankies! |
| 20:39.55 | zeeg | Saint-N, have a project on Curse? |
| 20:40.24 | Saint-N | nadda |
| 20:40.32 | Saint-N | kael does |
| 20:40.33 | Cryect | Alright this is silly as hell |
| 20:40.35 | Saint-N | make him do it |
| 20:40.59 | Saint-N | kael likes being told what to do |
| 20:41.02 | Cryect | a[2][PosA]=(100*a[2][PosA])/(Epsilon+Temp) doesn't work but a[2][PosA]=(100*a[2][PosA])/Epsilon and a[2][PosA]=(100*a[2][PosA])/temp work 100% fine |
| 20:41.02 | Saint-N | his wife told me |
| 20:41.17 | zeeg | hrm actually you can give feedback on how it works from the users point of view |
| 20:41.19 | zeeg | http://wow.cursebeta.com/downloads/details/3313/ |
| 20:41.20 | Cryect | if I do the addition in a seperate variable and use that to divide it also freezes |
| 20:41.25 | zeeg | theres a box on the right that shows latest tickets |
| 20:41.33 | zeeg | and a box right above comments directing users to report problems there |
| 20:41.40 | zeeg | (these only show if you've setup the tickets on your project) |
| 20:41.49 | Dustwhisper- | Cryect what has happened to the "Last fight" option in recount ? |
| 20:41.59 | Saint-N | okies |
| 20:42.36 | Cryect | Last Fight is Fight 1 |
| 20:42.45 | Saint-N | the submit a ticket system? |
| 20:43.01 | Cryect | few issues with changing the name in the window |
| 20:43.04 | Cryect | but otherwise the same |
| 20:43.53 | zeeg | Saint-N, the system in general, but ya |
| 20:44.23 | zeeg | oh sec it might error out |
| 20:44.28 | zeeg | have to update the db |
| 20:44.36 | kergoth | Cryect, if i go start a fight and it ends, and i had fight 1 selected, will that continue to show fight 1, or will it now show fight 2? does it stay with number or with data? |
| 20:44.48 | NeoTron | Cryect: ah ok |
| 20:45.04 | NeoTron | what kergoth said. :) |
| 20:45.05 | kergoth | its unclear imo, also its not clear whether fight 1 is oldest or newest |
| 20:45.09 | kergoth | show date or something? i dunno |
| 20:45.21 | Cryect | It stays with the number not the data |
| 20:45.26 | Cryect | Fight 1 is newest |
| 20:45.31 | zeeg | k should be ok now |
| 20:45.43 | Cryect | yeah I know its somewhat confusing but was easier to work that way internally :-p |
| 20:45.46 | kergoth | i know its newest now, just saying its not obvious, add something in game to make it more so imo |
| 20:45.51 | Cryect | yeah |
| 20:46.02 | Cryect | Could call it Fight 1 Back |
| 20:46.11 | Cryect | actually |
| 20:46.14 | Cryect | I guess time is best |
| 20:46.21 | Cryect | show start to end time |
| 20:46.23 | NeoTron | time works |
| 20:46.25 | kergoth | could call it current -1 current -2 etc.. |
| 20:46.28 | kergoth | time would work though |
| 20:46.39 | NeoTron | kergoth: that's confising to non-technical ppl :P |
| 20:46.46 | kergoth | hehe, true |
| 20:46.46 | Saint-N | zeeg: aside from needing to login it seems to work properly |
| 20:47.05 | NeoTron | I explained in a mathematical forumula how our standby DKP works |
| 20:47.05 | Saint-N | i added a "ticket" |
| 20:47.09 | CIA-23 | 03archarodim * r45924 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_Events.lua): |
| 20:47.09 | CIA-23 | Decursive: |
| 20:47.09 | CIA-23 | - Fix a Lua error that occurred wen the user had the live-list AND the MUFs disabled at UI initialization and was changing its 'Focus' (/focus /clearfocus) |
| 20:47.09 | CIA-23 | - Fixed a typo in a message when someone gets blaCklisted ;) |
| 20:47.12 | NeoTron | ppl didn't get it until I added examples |
| 20:47.20 | NeoTron | and it was really rather straight forward |
| 20:47.50 | Saint-N | zeeg: although im confused as to why it shows a huge comment field for the ticket itself |
| 20:48.06 | Saint-N | zeeg: doesnt make much sense since the tickets go away when someone closes them |
| 20:48.09 | zeeg | so people can add additional comments to the ticket |
| 20:48.49 | Saint-N | zeeg: right but see the second aprt of that ;P |
| 20:48.58 | zeeg | oh |
| 20:48.59 | Saint-N | if the ticket is closed does it remain or does it get purged? |
| 20:49.00 | zeeg | they dont go away |
| 20:49.02 | NeoTron | Earned DKP = RaidPoints + AttendancePoints + min(StandbyPoints, RP/2) + Adjustment |
| 20:49.02 | Saint-N | oh |
| 20:49.04 | zeeg | they jsut dont show on that page |
| 20:49.05 | Saint-N | okay then |
| 20:49.10 | zeeg | ill add filters so you can show them |
| 20:49.14 | NeoTron | clear as water.. |
| 20:49.15 | zeeg | this was just a quick thing i wanted to get working |
| 20:49.16 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45925 10eePanels/ (eePanels.toc embeds.xml): eePanels: use embeds.xml |
| 20:49.29 | Saint-N | works decent enough and should definitely cut down on the comment complaints |
| 20:49.31 | Saint-N | and duplicates |
| 20:49.32 | zeeg | and the authors of the file can also perma delete them |
| 20:49.42 | zeeg | ah ya, good point |
| 20:49.45 | zeeg | ill go add the thing real quick |
| 20:50.44 | Cryect | how does one define not a number in Lua? |
| 20:50.52 | Kaelten | Cryect: ? |
| 20:51.01 | Kaelten | you mean something like if not a number do blah? |
| 20:51.14 | Cryect | or infinity |
| 20:51.15 | Arrowmaster | type()? |
| 20:51.18 | Funkeh` | welcome back Kaelten |
| 20:51.22 | Kaelten | hi funkeh |
| 20:51.26 | Funkeh` | had fun? |
| 20:51.36 | Cryect | well some math operations can result in confusion like 0/0 isn't a number or well shouldn't be |
| 20:51.57 | jme | heh, this hunter actually farmed all of the HWL set |
| 20:52.00 | Cryect | so how to I detect those numbers |
| 20:52.13 | Xinhuan | Cryect, have you tried printing out the values of PosA and PosB per loop? |
| 20:52.17 | Arrowmaster | ive seen some people do local blah = 1/0 and compare against blah |
| 20:52.20 | Xinhuan | just to see why itis infinite |
| 20:52.24 | Cryect | I've determined the problem isn't in the loop |
| 20:52.32 | Cryect | but when the data gets passed elsewhere |
| 20:52.38 | Cryect | something isn't happy inside of graphlib |
| 20:52.54 | Xinhuan | whats the value of Temp and Epsilon? |
| 20:53.15 | pastamancer | local nan, inf = 0/0, 1/0 ? |
| 20:53.24 | Cryect | local Epsilon=0.000000000000000001 |
| 20:53.30 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: If you use 1/0, it gives you -#1.INF |
| 20:53.44 | Xinhuan | that could be a problem |
| 20:53.47 | Cryect | yeah except if you try to use -#1.INF in lua it gives you an error |
| 20:53.58 | Kaelten | I think its technically a string |
| 20:54.04 | Kaelten | but I may be wrong |
| 20:54.12 | Cryect | hmm good idea I should check that |
| 20:54.14 | Xinhuan | and whats the value of Temp? |
| 20:54.36 | Cryect | look here for Temp http://pastey.net/71910 |
| 20:54.39 | Kaelten | but regardless saving nan and inf in temp variables for comparisons sounds like a valid value. |
| 20:54.42 | Cryect | its just a lerp of 2 values |
| 20:54.53 | pastamancer | type(1/0) == "number", fyi |
| 20:54.58 | Xinhuan | i thought numbers only have 16 bit precision, and if temp is an integer or something big, your epsilon value is negligible |
| 20:55.18 | Kaelten | pastamancer: ah so I am wrong, no shock |
| 20:55.21 | Cryect | as long as Temp isn't 0 I don't really care if I add epsilon :-p |
| 20:55.32 | Cryect | epsilon is so I never divide by 0 |
| 20:55.41 | Cryect | and Temp is never <0 |
| 20:55.49 | Xinhuan | just do a if-then-else then, and split it into 2 cases |
| 20:55.57 | Xinhuan | don't bother with that +0.000000000000000001 thing |
| 20:56.03 | Cryect | I did |
| 20:56.08 | Cryect | it still causes the same issue |
| 20:56.23 | Cryect | using the + is better since its faster |
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| 20:56.40 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45926 10BugSack/ (. BugSack.toc embeds.xml): BugSack: use embeds.xml |
| 20:56.53 | Cryect | the issue as I said I determined was elsewhere >_> but thats the source of the invalid data |
| 20:57.13 | Cryect | I tried epsilon with 0.1 and you get same issue |
| 20:59.10 | Kaelten | if then else splits are super fast |
| 20:59.26 | Cryect | eitherway it doesn't fix it :-p |
| 20:59.36 | Kaelten | realistically you won't have any noticable loss of performance |
| 21:00.39 | Xinhuan | so you don't make sense - you said |
| 21:00.41 | Xinhuan | a[2][PosA]=(100*a[2][PosA])/Epsilon and a[2][PosA]=(100*a[2][PosA])/temp work 100% fine |
| 21:00.52 | Cryect | yeah because the loop isn't hte freeze |
| 21:00.58 | Xinhuan | so if a[2][PosA]=(100*a[2][PosA])/temp works fine |
| 21:01.02 | Cryect | I said that several times |
| 21:01.07 | Xinhuan | then a if-then-else that uses that shouldn't freeze it |
| 21:01.08 | Kaelten | I'm still confused |
| 21:01.11 | Arrowmaster | does anybody actually use math.huge? |
| 21:01.14 | Kaelten | not sure what the issue is |
| 21:01.16 | Cryect | after I initially said it was an issue |
| 21:01.25 | Kaelten | math.huge? |
| 21:01.25 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:01.59 | Arrowmaster | apparently its the same as 1/0 |
| 21:02.06 | Cryect | Not sure, its bothering me I just know somehow it generates invalid data for GraphLib that then freezes |
| 21:02.13 | Cryect | math.huge isn't very useful |
| 21:02.19 | Cryect | except for comparison :-p |
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| 21:02.31 | Xinhuan | well the freeze isn't your code then, but rather GraphLib freezes on your input data? |
| 21:02.57 | Cryect | Well they are both are my code :-p |
| 21:03.15 | Cryect | But thats the source of the invalid data |
| 21:03.41 | Xinhuan | you're gonna have to find where the freeze is then, i spent 2 days finding out why zoning in and out of AV froze raid unit frames - i posted the issue - and every raid frame author updated within 1 day lol! |
| 21:04.06 | Cryect | debugging freezes in wow sucks >_> |
| 21:04.15 | Xinhuan | yep, indeed |
| 21:04.17 | Cryect | I miss not having real debug tools |
| 21:04.20 | Xinhuan | that's why it took 2 days |
| 21:04.31 | Xinhuan | for me to figure out the issue, and supply a workaround |
| 21:04.54 | rubik | hmm.. looking for something like an in-game guild calendar... a basic one.. something exists? is Combine on svn usable for that? |
| 21:05.03 | Tornhoof | your initial array value is valid too? |
| 21:05.09 | rubik | (sorry, at work and can't just download it to try it) |
| 21:05.32 | [dRaCo] | rubik: GEM does that, its a memory hog, though. |
| 21:05.42 | Xinhuan | its probably just bugs to do with very big or very small numbers |
| 21:05.44 | rubik | GEM == guildeventmanager or something? |
| 21:05.46 | Xinhuan | and not really code fault |
| 21:06.00 | [dRaCo] | rubik: yes |
| 21:06.03 | Cryect | thats what I'm guessing :-/ |
| 21:06.23 | CIA-23 | 03eraslin * r45927 10DKPmon/Roster/raid.lua: DKPmon: That should fix those annoying problems with detecting raid names in a battleground. |
| 21:06.28 | [dRaCo] | rubik: http://christophe.calmejane.free.fr/wow/gem/ |
| 21:06.55 | rubik | [dRaCo]: ty.. checking... |
| 21:07.35 | fireglow | ~seen sorren* |
| 21:07.37 | purl | i haven't seen 'sorren*', fireglow |
| 21:07.43 | fireglow | ~seen sorren |
| 21:07.44 | purl | fireglow: i haven't seen 'sorren' |
| 21:07.47 | fireglow | k :( |
| 21:08.30 | rubik | hmm.. GEM looks a bit complex.. i don't even care about class limits, etc.. i just want something to schedule random heroic runs or something (stupid casual guild with not enough ppl on at same time) |
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| 21:09.44 | ckknight | perhaps... |
| 21:09.51 | rubik | how functional is Combine? code looks like it only does the displaying of events so far? AceComm syncing stuff not done, right? |
| 21:09.54 | ckknight | perhaps my first Joker project should be a GEM clone |
| 21:10.04 | ckknight | that'd be cool |
| 21:10.08 | [dRaCo] | ckk: Yay. Go go go! |
| 21:10.16 | ckknight | I gotta do AceConfig first |
| 21:10.17 | rubik | yeah.. we'd <3 you long time and stuff |
| 21:10.28 | jme | thought you already did that ;) |
| 21:10.44 | rubik | let us know when it's time to help pick a name.. i always love that part of the irc chat |
| 21:10.54 | ckknight | jme: I'm basically gonna steal the good stuff from Waterfall |
| 21:11.08 | jme | ckknight: nah, that was a response to <rubik> yeah.. we'd <3 you long time and stuff |
| 21:11.23 | rubik | but yes, jme.. you are right |
| 21:11.26 | Cryect | looks like the problem is really large negative numbers >_< |
| 21:11.50 | jme | large negative numbers, hmm |
| 21:13.35 | [dRaCo] | a great name for a event scheduler would be GnomeTourAssistant, since it can be abbreviated with GTA :D |
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| 21:13.50 | jme | Gnome? pfft |
| 21:14.24 | Tornhoof | do all your calculation in log cryect ;) |
| 21:14.36 | [dRaCo] | well, GayTourAssistant would be... inadequate. |
| 21:14.44 | jme | obviously! |
| 21:15.03 | durcyn | needs an animal name |
| 21:15.08 | jme | Giraffe |
| 21:15.09 | durcyn | something to do with herding |
| 21:15.26 | [dRaCo] | Lemmings! Great for evenings full of wipes. |
| 21:15.31 | jme | :( |
| 21:16.25 | Qaarh | ckknight: quick question.. I use Pitbull as my raid frames in battle and have the health showing as deficit since I'm a healer. Is it possible to convert it to be -1.2k instead of -1204 somehow? |
| 21:16.41 | [dRaCo] | [missinghp:short] |
| 21:16.52 | Qaarh | oh, it's that simple? |
| 21:16.54 | durcyn | Qaarh: it's all on the DogTag wiki page |
| 21:16.55 | Saint-N | wow lemmings? |
| 21:16.59 | Qaarh | *feels dumb* |
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| 21:17.03 | Qaarh | thanks guys :) |
| 21:17.06 | Saint-N | must....get |
| 21:17.06 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 21:17.09 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:17.10 | ckknight | [MissingHealth:Short:Negate:Red] |
| 21:17.28 | ckknight | actually it's [MissingHealth:Negate:Short:Red] |
| 21:17.28 | ckknight | that's it |
| 21:17.50 | Qaarh | :) you guys rock, thanks a bunch |
| 21:18.41 | loonacy | Everyone here has probably seen it already, but go to lfgcomic.com and check out the video down below, it's hilarious. |
| 21:18.42 | jme | Short:Red:Gnome:Warlock:Is:MissingHealth:Because:I:Shot:Him |
| 21:19.10 | [dRaCo] | wtf. |
| 21:19.23 | jme | was it that bad? :( |
| 21:19.28 | [dRaCo] | yes. |
| 21:19.30 | loonacy | I think ShotHim is one tag. |
| 21:20.45 | ckknight | Blue warrior needs food badly! |
| 21:21.45 | durcyn | It is dark, you are likely to be eaten by a grue. |
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| 21:23.00 | Saint-N | durcyn: thats because its Grue's Day |
| 21:23.36 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45928 10Recount/ (GUI_Graph.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Fixes Stacked Normalized Graphs so they shouldn't freeze anymore |
| 21:23.50 | Chompers | how's Joker coming along ckk? feeling happy with its progression? |
| 21:23.55 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:24.06 | ckknight | all the Ace2 core has been ported over, just AceConfig (new thingy) left |
| 21:25.04 | Funkeh` | config? |
| 21:25.08 | Funkeh` | whats that for? |
| 21:25.16 | ckknight | Waterfall-esque config |
| 21:25.25 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 21:25.56 | ckknight | working on AceOptions v2, though |
| 21:26.18 | Saint-N | Mom's Old Fashioned Addon Library |
| 21:26.28 | Saint-N | that should be it's real name ;P |
| 21:26.36 | ckknight | ...no |
| 21:26.38 | Saint-N | yes |
| 21:26.43 | ckknight | the Ace branding is pretty strong |
| 21:26.56 | ckknight | I'd say it'd be best to stick with it |
| 21:27.01 | Saint-N | heh make it an acronym then ;P |
| 21:27.05 | ckknight | no! |
| 21:27.07 | Saint-N | heh |
| 21:27.13 | ckknight | hate those recursive acronyms |
| 21:27.22 | Saint-N | Ace Ckk Edition |
| 21:27.28 | zeeg | hey ckknight |
| 21:27.31 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 21:28.02 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45929 10Recount/Tracker.lua: Recount - Bug fix relating to misses causing errors of trying to do arithmetic with strings |
| 21:28.08 | ckknight | hey zeeg |
| 21:28.11 | ckknight | how's life? |
| 21:28.15 | zeeg | pretty good |
| 21:28.22 | zeeg | want to give me some feedback on our new ticket system? |
| 21:28.23 | ckknight | that's good |
| 21:28.31 | ckknight | you have a new ticket system? |
| 21:28.34 | zeeg | its targetting at file authors so :) |
| 21:28.39 | zeeg | ya just finished up the initial release; http://blogs.curse.com/25/details/164/ |
| 21:28.40 | ckknight | link me |
| 21:28.45 | ckknight | alright |
| 21:29.03 | ckknight | okay, zeeg |
| 21:29.04 | ckknight | I has an idea |
| 21:29.31 | Saint-N | if it involves puppies i already suggested it |
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| 21:30.13 | ckknight | basically, I hold the philosophy that users are dumb and lazy, generally. If there were a way to fill out a ticket ingame (very doable) and then copy a link to their browser, which would auto-fill the ticket based on the ?query=statements, that would be pimp |
| 21:30.31 | zeeg | hm |
| 21:30.39 | zeeg | can you click links in game at all? |
| 21:30.44 | Saint-N | yup |
| 21:30.44 | ckknight | you can copy-paste |
| 21:30.46 | zeeg | hrm |
| 21:30.47 | ckknight | I do it for donations |
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| 21:31.00 | CIA-23 | 03xbeeps * r45930 10HealComm-2.0/ (. HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua HealComm-2.0.toc embeds.xml): |
| 21:31.01 | CIA-23 | HealComm-2.0: |
| 21:31.01 | CIA-23 | - Use of embeds.xml. |
| 21:31.01 | CIA-23 | - Improved event handling and robustness in certain situations. |
| 21:31.01 | CIA-23 | - Latency measurement and compensation for better timing accuracy. |
| 21:31.05 | zeeg | ask Kaelten to make it and ill make it work on our end :P |
| 21:31.08 | Saint-N | depending on your chat addon too it can spawn outside of wow |
| 21:31.11 | zeeg | or if someone else wants to volunteer |
| 21:31.32 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
| 21:31.35 | ckknight | do what I said |
| 21:31.35 | Pkekyo | does Curator need offtanking? |
| 21:31.44 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: nope. |
| 21:31.58 | Jaxon | My guild is now asking for a bot to handle requests similar to ThraeBot in this channel. Anyone happen to know what it runs off of? Or do I have to bother to write that on my own. |
| 21:32.15 | Saint-N | jaxon: just ask thrae ;P |
| 21:32.39 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: maybe you need somebody to tank the bolt... most ppl do it without a dedicated tank, though |
| 21:32.51 | Jaxon | Saint-N: good call, I wonder how I missed him on the userlist. |
| 21:33.08 | Cryect | hmmm whats healcomm |
| 21:33.15 | Pkekyo | my guild uses me + feralol offtank on curator himself for some reason...never seen that before |
| 21:33.36 | Ominous | guys if you want daily cart_herb cart_mine cart_treasure mining updates off cart you can get them from ominous.me.uk/files |
| 21:33.37 | ckknight | Jaxon: ask Thrae |
| 21:34.03 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: the offtank will prolly take all the bolts, makes healing easier |
| 21:34.17 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: he doesn't, he just offtanks curator |
| 21:34.39 | Kaelten | I can make a copy/pastable link thing pretty easy |
| 21:34.45 | [dRaCo] | the second on the aggro list will get the hatefuls, Pkekyo |
| 21:34.45 | Kaelten | its not hard |
| 21:34.59 | CIA-23 | 03xbeeps * r45931 10VisualHeal/ (. VisualHeal.lua VisualHeal.toc VisualHealBar.xml embeds.xml): |
| 21:34.59 | CIA-23 | VisualHeal: |
| 21:34.59 | CIA-23 | - Improved event handling and robustness in certain situations. |
| 21:34.59 | CIA-23 | - Latency measurement and compensation, for better timing accuracy. |
| 21:34.59 | CIA-23 | - Use of embeds.xml. |
| 21:35.15 | Pkekyo | hatefuls? |
| 21:35.33 | jme | blizz needs a more advanced armory search |
| 21:35.37 | [dRaCo] | yeah... the curator shoots these 4k arcane bolts |
| 21:35.52 | jme | like for characters that have XXXXX in their name, but doesn't exactly match XXXXX |
| 21:36.05 | Cryect | xbeeps you here? curious if healcomm passes instant heals or not |
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| 21:36.36 | vithos | i just wish armory wasn't so slow/didn't lock up my browser while it was loading |
| 21:36.40 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: check http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Curator |
| 21:37.34 | Cyrez | jme: Or you hear "Cottonballs" but the person doesn't tell you they spelled it with a "K" and "z". ;-) |
| 21:37.44 | jme | Cyrez: yeah |
| 21:39.52 | rubik | but seriously.. a (very basic) guild events calendar addon like what Kaelten started with Combine would be kick-ass |
| 21:40.14 | DarkImakuni | which Prat module controls the showing of friends/guildies leaving and afk/dnd/gm tags? |
| 21:40.45 | Kaelten | rubik: Guilletine (sp) picked up Combine recently |
| 21:40.50 | jme | wouldn't the guildies leaving be Guild Member Alert in the blizzard interface options? |
| 21:41.02 | rubik | Kaelten: orly? on svn? branched? |
| 21:41.22 | rubik | i'll look around, thanks |
| 21:41.22 | Kaelten | I don't think he's uploaded yet, but he asked me if he could pick it up |
| 21:41.27 | rubik | ahh ok |
| 21:41.30 | rubik | god bless him |
| 21:41.44 | Kaelten | not sure exactly what all he's got planned, but I know he's going with a 'hive mind' apporoach for syncing |
| 21:41.44 | rubik | (and you) |
| 21:42.01 | Kaelten | I've never raided so its kinda a weird addon for me ton continue |
| 21:42.37 | rubik | i don't even care to use it for raiding.. just for quick heroic run planning, etc.. since guild is too casual and folks don't all log on at same time unless they plan something |
| 21:42.49 | rubik | (aside from pre-set raid times that don't need to be on a calendar) |
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| 21:44.08 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45932 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - fix a comment |
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| 21:48.15 | Ominous | is there any reason why when i open domain/file.php in webbrowser the php scripts works but when i open if by doing php path/to/script in command line it errors |
| 21:49.03 | ccKep | (the error might help) |
| 21:49.11 | [dRaCo] | different php version for the webserver and the console? |
| 21:49.26 | evl | omg vashj down |
| 21:49.26 | evl | i came |
| 21:49.30 | evl | and i got the fang |
| 21:49.32 | evl | then i came again |
| 21:49.37 | [dRaCo] | congratz |
| 21:49.45 | jme | :o |
| 21:49.56 | jme | grats |
| 21:50.34 | Gngsk | grats |
| 21:50.38 | Gngsk | been farming vashj for months with no fang |
| 21:50.39 | CIA-23 | 03jncl * r45933 10Skinner/AddonSkins/VanasKoS.lua: Skinner: Updated VanasKoS skin |
| 21:50.42 | jme | i seem to be getting a lot of pdf emails |
| 21:50.47 | jme | well, spam, viruses etc |
| 21:50.49 | Ominous | [dRaCo]: found it, for some reason two of the files had become write protected |
| 21:51.00 | [dRaCo] | weird |
| 21:51.48 | Lyfe | jme: welcome to the spam game. |
| 21:52.52 | jme | Lyfe: yeah |
| 21:52.58 | jme | Lyfe: i'm about to disable forwarding for that account |
| 21:53.07 | jme | all it gets is spam |
| 21:54.20 | CIA-23 | 03poull 07poull * r45934 10PallyPower/ (PallyPower.lua PallyPower.xml PallyPowerValues.lua): PallyPower: Added player buttons in config menu. These support click and drag to other classes. |
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| 21:56.04 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45935 10Squeenix/ (Squeenix.toc embeds.xml): Squeenix: use embeds.xml |
| 21:57.21 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45936 10Recount/ (Fights.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Adds time to the fight names |
| 21:57.21 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45937 10eePanels/eePanels.toc: eePanels: stupid spaces making errors :/ |
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| 22:00.09 | Pkekyo | now our feral offtank is going to heal me...this'll be interesting |
| 22:00.21 | rubik | haha |
| 22:00.25 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45938 10aUF_Banzai/ (. aUF_Banzai.toc embeds.xml): aUF_Banzai: use embeds.xml |
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| 22:00.58 | ccKep | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?fight=1551 <<< loving retarded guilds / reporters |
| 22:00.58 | Pkekyo | and a rogue is goin gto offtank |
| 22:01.40 | rubik | i heal most 5-man runs with my feral druid.. just slap on some heal gear and he goes rejuv/lifebloom happy.. it works.. hah |
| 22:03.05 | sb | ccKep: hm? :o |
| 22:03.21 | sb | ah |
| 22:03.36 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45939 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: cleanup toc |
| 22:03.39 | ccKep | places 1-9 ^.^ |
| 22:04.11 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 22:04.14 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 10105 HP; 8084 Armour; 1452 AP; 200.1 Melee DPS; 24.67% melee crit; 102 melee hit; 8.18% dodge; 10.8% block; 46 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytatlc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okjqb ]] |
| 22:04.25 | ccKep | merging 5 logs, something HAS to go wrong |
| 22:04.28 | Pkekyo | still the fuckign dps gear, meh |
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| 22:05.11 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather vazzan |
| 22:05.14 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Vazzan, Level 70 Orc Rogue (15/41/5). 8644 HP; 1607 AP; 340.4 Melee DPS; 28.62% melee crit; 106 melee hit; 25.77% dodge; 77 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2rlgt7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/ysr374 ]] |
| 22:05.15 | Pkekyo | that's my current offtank |
| 22:07.48 | charon | i've noticed pitbull and grid seem to hate each other, every time i leave a raid and join a party, no party frames show |
| 22:07.48 | CIA-23 | 03nevcairiel * r45940 10Bartender3/Bartender3.toc: Bartender3: some .toc changes |
| 22:07.58 | snurre | !c eu dragonmaw capnaggro |
| 22:08.01 | ThraeBot | snurre: Capnaggro, Level 60 Orc Warrior (10/41/0). 5039 HP; 6204 Armour; 1304 AP; 152.7 Melee DPS; 31.54% melee crit; 80 melee hit; 8.71% dodge; 5% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fz4fg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/392fsd ]] |
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| 22:09.23 | Amadeo | Anyone have problems with layouts saving in PitBull? |
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| 22:10.29 | CIA-23 | 03xbeeps * r45941 10HealComm-2.0/: |
| 22:10.29 | CIA-23 | HealComm-2.0: |
| 22:10.29 | CIA-23 | - Added missing external (AceOO-2.0). |
| 22:10.29 | Amadeo | I can't be the only one! |
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| 22:14.21 | Pkekyo | meh, didn't down curator tonight :< |
| 22:14.21 | Pkekyo | fucking brits going to bed at 11pm |
| 22:16.03 | Ominous | do the databases in wow load before the addons? |
| 22:16.31 | Ominous | ie say is Cartographer_HerbalismDB available before Cart_herb loads |
| 22:16.39 | Antiarc|Work | Saved variables are guaranteed accessable on VARIABLES_LOADED, I believe |
| 22:17.05 | Antiarc|Work | Ace addons only call OnInitialize()/OnEnable() after VARIABLES_LOADED, so yes, you can assume they're loaded |
| 22:17.12 | Ominous | ok thanks |
| 22:17.56 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: I think OnInitialize is ADDON_LOADED, which is after VARIABLES_LOADED, and OnEnable is PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 22:18.23 | Antiarc|Work | Right. But it comes after VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 22:18.28 | Antiarc|Work | so you can assume your DB is there. |
| 22:18.34 | Antiarc|Work | Sorry, I didn't mean "invoked by" |
| 22:18.37 | Antiarc|Work | Just "happens after" |
| 22:19.48 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45942 10oRA2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): oRA2: move modules.xml to root for WAU clearing, also remove via lod scripts |
| 22:20.17 | Ominous | how can i make sure an addon loads before another? |
| 22:20.30 | Thiana_ | Ominous: OptDep/ReqDep |
| 22:20.31 | Antiarc|Work | Make the one you need to load before the other an opdep |
| 22:21.04 | Ominous | hmm |
| 22:21.06 | Shirik | use a dependency |
| 22:21.13 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45943 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: move modules.xml to root for WAU clearing, also remove via lod scripts |
| 22:21.32 | Hjalte | Amadeo, where do you find other layouts for Pitbull? |
| 22:21.35 | Shirik | ## Dependencies: AddonsThatMustBeLoaded |
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| 22:22.06 | Shirik | ## OptionalDeps: AddonsThatMustBeLoadedFirstIfTheyExist |
| 22:22.11 | Thiana_ | Who is funkydude and exactly what are they doing? |
| 22:22.26 | Funkeh` | I'm making your life a misery |
| 22:22.35 | ccKep | out of curiousity: can a .toc have another .toc in the files list to load? |
| 22:22.42 | Funkeh` | no |
| 22:22.48 | ccKep | thought that :/ |
| 22:22.51 | nevcairiel | ccKep: nop, but you can use .xml files for that |
| 22:23.01 | Thiana_ | Funkeh`, 'WAU clearing' ? |
| 22:23.02 | Funkeh` | aye |
| 22:23.18 | Funkeh` | Thiana_: what about it |
| 22:23.26 | Thiana_ | Funkeh`, Explain it. |
| 22:23.36 | Thrae | Shirik: OK I did that, but the logs say that AddonsThatMustBeLoaded is not found and thus not loaded! |
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| 22:23.54 | Funkeh` | Thiana_: WAu clears the modules.xml file, its pretty clear |
| 22:24.20 | Funkeh` | what don't you understand? |
| 22:25.26 | Antiarc|Work | ccKep: Use a .xml file if you want to include a list of includes |
| 22:26.26 | Shirik | Thrae: I should slap you |
| 22:26.58 | kergoth | anyone have any ideas for a name for a HUD addon? |
| 22:27.05 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 22:27.09 | Funkeh` | hud addon, ick :p |
| 22:27.11 | nevcairiel | i cannot change the .bat file in bigwigs |
| 22:27.14 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: fix it |
| 22:27.21 | nevcairiel | rmdir doesnt work on modules.xml |
| 22:27.22 | Funkeh` | whats there to change |
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| 22:27.29 | nevcairiel | you need del /f modules.xml |
| 22:27.43 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 22:27.48 | Thrae | kergoth: MrFuddHUD |
| 22:27.53 | Funkeh` | yeah thats for folders doh |
| 22:28.48 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45944 10BigWigs/bigwigslod.bat: BigWigs: properly remove modules.xml |
| 22:28.58 | Funkeh` | try that |
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| 22:29.25 | Thrae | kergoth: or maybe DUH |
| 22:29.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:29.30 | nevcairiel | i was confused when my update script errored with some system message :P |
| 22:29.58 | Funkeh` | yeah sorry |
| 22:30.12 | Funkeh` | works now though? |
| 22:30.27 | nevcairiel | didnt try it, but the theory is right |
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| 22:32.33 | nevcairiel | looks right |
| 22:32.49 | CIA-23 | 03eraslin * r45946 10DKPmon_BossAuction/: DKPmon_BossAuction: Fix missing AceHook-2.1 external. (Set the externals too) |
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| 22:35.03 | Thrae | kergoth: HeadsUp!, Whud?, MrFhud, GhudDay, Ghuddie, KHUDdles, Lhuddite (misspelling of luddite, those that are anti-technology), Lhuddlite, Jihud (jihad), etc. |
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| 22:35.59 | Thrae | kergoth: I like Whud? and Lhuddite personally. |
| 22:36.05 | Kaelten | sites about to go down for a little while |
| 22:36.17 | Thrae | Kaelten: Site + SVN? |
| 22:36.27 | Kaelten | just the wiki and forums |
| 22:36.47 | Kaelten | ls |
| 22:36.57 | nevcairiel | wrong terminal :) |
| 22:37.34 | Coruss | does anyone know of a 'hello world' style tutorial for WoW addons? |
| 22:37.48 | nevcairiel | ShowMeTheMoney! |
| 22:37.53 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 22:37.55 | Kaelten | :P |
| 22:37.59 | Kaelten | Coruss WelcomeHome |
| 22:37.59 | Coruss | oh, and do I need a lua compiler to make addons? |
| 22:38.05 | Kaelten | nope |
| 22:38.19 | Kaelten | in fact you can't use binaries |
| 22:38.30 | Coruss | only raw script files? |
| 22:38.38 | Shirik | I would argue yes |
| 22:38.40 | nevcairiel | didnt thott do that some time back or so? |
| 22:38.46 | Shirik | You do need one, to keep your sanity |
| 22:38.51 | Shirik | nevcairiel: It became blocked |
| 22:38.54 | nevcairiel | ah oki |
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| 22:39.23 | Shirik | It used to be possible to loadstring() a string.dump() |
| 22:39.30 | Shirik | not anymore |
| 22:39.35 | Funkeh` | Kaelten nice down page |
| 22:39.40 | Kaelten | everyone seeing the down page? |
| 22:39.43 | Kaelten | does it look ok? |
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| 22:39.51 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 22:39.53 | Funkeh` | goblins! |
| 22:40.00 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:40.00 | nevcairiel | the Oh Noes page |
| 22:40.00 | rubik | haha.. great down page |
| 22:40.03 | ckknight_ | lolz |
| 22:40.11 | Funkeh` | I'm not seeing the image, or at least tis taking very long to download |
| 22:40.21 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 22:40.29 | rubik | i see image fine.. lrn2browser |
| 22:40.41 | Funkeh` | Using firefox l2shut up ;) |
| 22:40.44 | rubik | :P |
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| 22:41.35 | Funkeh` | right I see half a tauren with a mallet |
| 22:41.53 | Coruss | Kaelten: I can't find a zip for WelcomeHome on wowace |
| 22:41.56 | Funkeh` | think its just being silly because its png |
| 22:42.10 | Kaelten | Coruss its a wiki page |
| 22:42.17 | Coruss | thanks |
| 22:42.18 | Kaelten | it'll be back up in about 30 mins give or take |
| 22:42.21 | nevcairiel | does anyone have any idea whats with those games that recently moved to steam .. will they use steam updating etc as well, or stay standalone? like id games.. |
| 22:42.37 | Funkeh` | I'd assume so |
| 22:42.40 | Funkeh` | or why move them |
| 22:42.49 | Coruss | nooooo goblins! |
| 22:42.51 | nevcairiel | you can buy over steam |
| 22:42.59 | nevcairiel | doesnt mean they use the other features |
| 22:43.49 | Funkeh` | I haven't seen a game that doesn't use steam to update that is on steam |
| 22:44.08 | Coruss | why wouldn't they? |
| 22:44.28 | kenlyric | they update, and pretty silently too, if you wish. |
| 22:44.42 | kenlyric | in fact, if you try to patch externally, they mostly won't work. |
| 22:44.55 | kenlyric | CivIV can't be updated by downloading the standalone patch. |
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| 22:45.37 | BankZ | Anyone know of an addon that will track whos joining and leaving your guild? |
| 22:46.28 | Shirik | uh |
| 22:46.36 | Shirik | huh? |
| 22:46.59 | BankZ | tell you if someone joined or left while you were offline |
| 22:47.22 | Shirik | ok that's much more clear |
| 22:47.26 | Shirik | though I don't have an answer for you |
| 22:47.41 | nevcairiel | Hmm steam is silly |
| 22:47.52 | nevcairiel | i entered my Doom3 key and it thinks i just activated Prey |
| 22:48.08 | Kaydeethree | free prey activation, woo |
| 22:48.13 | Matrix110 | Prey is better anyway |
| 22:48.14 | Matrix110 | :P |
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| 22:48.34 | kenlyric | most 3rd party games can't be activated over steam. |
| 22:48.38 | kenlyric | Can doom? |
| 22:48.40 | rubik | oh.. been meaning to ask but kept forgetting.. need help with strat for prince in karazhan.. cause as it is, if we get unlucky (over and over) with the infernals dropping and blocking us off, we wipe 5-6 times before killing him |
| 22:48.53 | kenlyric | rubik, don't be dumb. |
| 22:49.00 | rubik | is that normal? for good guilds i mean? (wiping on prince a few times due to 99% luck being involved with the infernals dropping) |
| 22:49.06 | Matrix110 | rubik you tank/raid just have to move a bit... |
| 22:49.07 | kenlyric | move smartly and can't you get unlucky with infernals. |
| 22:49.11 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: dunno, but it activated Prey for my doom key :P |
| 22:49.16 | rubik | hmmm |
| 22:49.18 | Matrix110 | if you wipe on prince you fail:P |
| 22:49.33 | Arrowmaster | thats not true, ive seen in infernals fall in such a way that its impossible to move around them |
| 22:49.34 | Anmoch_ | rubik: there's a safe spot where you can just stand still and will never be hit |
| 22:49.34 | rubik | we one-shot everything up to prince... then we wipe 6x |
| 22:49.42 | kenlyric | Arrowmaster: lies. |
| 22:49.47 | kenlyric | you might have to move through them. |
| 22:49.50 | rubik | Anmoch_: by the door somewhere? i need to know where this spot is |
| 22:49.51 | kenlyric | just run fast. |
| 22:50.12 | Anmoch_ | rubik: slightly more than halfway along the left wall, about 3m past the slight bend it takes |
| 22:50.22 | kenlyric | and the trick is to move after *every* infernal, not just the one that's going to box you in. |
| 22:50.22 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric: 4 infernals droped in a line and cut off half of the area to move around in |
| 22:50.42 | rubik | Arrowmaster speaks the truth.. seen that 3x in a row last week |
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| 22:51.12 | ccKep | damn goblins |
| 22:51.12 | rubik | Anmoch_: k.. will have to try that out.. i heard someone else mention the "magical spot" where you don't have to move |
| 22:51.43 | Pkekyo | I need movie recommendations...I'm bored >.< what movies should I get? |
| 22:51.58 | Funkeh` | busty red heads 3 |
| 22:52.11 | Pkekyo | bored with that one... |
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| 22:52.50 | Anmoch_ | rubik: sorry, was infight with vorpil |
| 22:53.01 | rubik | np |
| 22:53.08 | Anmoch_ | your raid has to stand along the left wall, about 32m away from you |
| 22:53.31 | Anmoch_ | if worst comes to worst, you will be surrounded by two infernals (you being the tank, right?) |
| 22:53.34 | rubik | away from door, right? |
| 22:53.47 | rubik | (yeah, me tanking is fine) |
| 22:53.52 | Anmoch_ | yes, should be about 10-15m away from the door |
| 22:54.57 | rubik | so, from door going along left wall, it goes door -> tank (by slight bend in wall) -> raid/ranged (~32m away, furthest away from door) |
| 22:55.00 | rubik | ? |
| 22:55.11 | Anmoch_ | [argh i hate shadowlabs] |
| 22:55.26 | Anmoch_ | no the other way |
| 22:55.44 | Anmoch_ | raid stands close to the door, i estimate it's 10-15m from it, but you should measure the range by their range from the tank |
| 22:55.45 | rubik | door -> raid -> tank |
| 22:55.51 | Anmoch_ | yes |
| 22:55.54 | rubik | yup, got it now |
| 22:55.58 | Anmoch_ | the tank spot is the important thing |
| 22:55.58 | rubik | thanks.. we'll try that |
| 22:56.05 | vithos | ccKep: never gotten infernal positions that give you nowhere left to move? |
| 22:56.08 | Anmoch_ | raid has a bit of room to the back, but not to the front (tank side) |
| 22:56.16 | rubik | yeah, must be cause i know there's an infernal spot RIGHT to the left of door on the wall |
| 22:56.30 | Dustwhisper- | hmm |
| 22:56.35 | ccKep | vithos: if it comes to that u moved wrong some time before |
| 22:56.39 | Dustwhisper- | i could only hit slightly over 900 dps on dr boom today |
| 22:56.42 | Dustwhisper- | that doesnt feel right |
| 22:56.49 | Anmoch_ | also, it is possible to stand at 30m range (shadow priest) in that setup |
| 22:56.58 | Anmoch_ | however it seems you have to do that _very_ carefully. |
| 22:57.14 | vithos | ccKep: i don't agree |
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| 22:57.22 | Anmoch_ | over half the time the shadow priests in my raid were toast |
| 22:57.42 | ccKep | happened to us many times in the learning process, I too thought we were just "surrounded" |
| 22:58.13 | ccKep | just start frapsing your tries/kills and watch them afterwards ^.^ |
| 22:58.14 | vithos | i've seen there be nowhere left to exist at all, with a low dps raid since only our alts do kara anymore |
| 22:58.30 | ccKep | well, sub 30% |
| 22:58.36 | ccKep | 30-0 is dps race |
| 22:59.05 | Antiarc|Work | Honestly, I've never had problems at 30-0 |
| 22:59.08 | Antiarc|Work | Only 60-30 |
| 22:59.25 | ccKep | well, if you have an undergeared raid and are low on dps, 30-0 can be quite hard |
| 22:59.37 | rubik | i finally learned about the maxcameradistance "hack" so set it up to max so now i should see entire prince terrace.. and going to fraps it |
| 22:59.42 | rubik | to yell at people |
| 22:59.56 | Antiarc|Work | ccKep: I'm usually the only decent DPS in our Kara run :P |
| 22:59.57 | mort | it's quite hard to be undergeared for kara ;) |
| 23:00.08 | rubik | oh, yeah... 60-30 can be rough.. if a healer is caught scrambling to safe spot instead of spam healing MT |
| 23:00.14 | Antiarc|Work | Like, I finish up Kara runs having done 35% of the group's damage |
| 23:00.23 | ccKep | mort: remember, when BC came out and you're first time on prince? |
| 23:00.26 | Antiarc|Work | We run -really- healer-heavyt |
| 23:00.28 | ccKep | like, maintank flasking and stuff? |
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| 23:00.48 | ccKep | thats what I mean with "undergeared" |
| 23:00.58 | ccKep | dps'ers doing like 600 dps and stuff |
| 23:01.28 | ccKep | (well, maybe 550 or so) |
| 23:01.57 | mort | that's actually more than enough for kara and if you did run some instances before you should have decent gear for kara |
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| 23:02.50 | ccKep | yeah, but prince CAN be hard if you have 6 * [550 - 600] = 3300 - 3600 raid dps |
| 23:03.33 | ccKep | didn't do him for quite a while, but I remember our first kills (month ago though) |
| 23:03.38 | ccKep | our dps basically had to flask |
| 23:03.57 | Arrowmaster | i remember when our tanks had to flask pre flask nerf |
| 23:04.35 | mort | errr i just checked the webstats from the last guildrun, they had about 3100dps on the prince kill (no, i don't raid with them) ;) |
| 23:04.44 | Arrowmaster | and now we have the feral druid that once got hit a total of 6 times during phase2 |
| 23:05.24 | ccKep | sub 30% he starts throwing infernals like very 20 seconds (wowwiki information, didn't time it myself) |
| 23:05.55 | ccKep | 1.100.000 hp * 0.3 = 330.000 hp |
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| 23:05.58 | Arrowmaster | doesnt enfeable though |
| 23:06.08 | ccKep | 330.000 hp / 3300 dps = 100 seconds |
| 23:06.13 | Arrowmaster | so infernals arent a big of a worry in phase3 |
| 23:06.14 | ccKep | approx. 5 infernals though |
| 23:06.17 | ccKep | CAN be tough |
| 23:06.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah can be but not so much |
| 23:06.42 | Arrowmaster | we usually end up having the entire raid in melee range near the end of phase3 |
| 23:06.58 | ccKep | we kill him before the third lands so I dont really care :o |
| 23:07.09 | Xinhuan | just do it with 1 tank, 7 dps and 2 healers, and you'll kill him so quickly that you won't have to bother with infernals cos there will only be a few up |
| 23:07.11 | Dustwhisper- | Just emptied my mana bar at dr boom unbuffed except for arcane intellect and molten armor, 102k dmg @ 1050 DPS |
| 23:07.15 | Dustwhisper- | without any potions and mana stones |
| 23:07.26 | Dustwhisper- | makes me want to try arc spec |
| 23:08.08 | art3mis | ive discovered there are some wierd yahoo widgets in the world today |
| 23:08.18 | art3mis | someone made a widget to notiro the temp of his aquarium |
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| 23:08.26 | art3mis | monitor |
| 23:08.37 | ccKep | how's goblin hunt going @ Kaelten? :D |
| 23:08.53 | Kaelten | 7.1MB/s atm |
| 23:08.54 | Kaelten | :) |
| 23:09.02 | ccKep | is there an eta? |
| 23:09.08 | Coruss | doing a backup or something? |
| 23:09.10 | Kaelten | 30-45 mins tops |
| 23:09.15 | ccKep | meh |
| 23:09.26 | Funkeh` | its worth the wait is trac is back up! :p |
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| 23:10.01 | ckknight | Coruss: changing servers |
| 23:10.16 | Coruss | aaaahhh |
| 23:10.22 | Kaelten | muhahahaha |
| 23:10.24 | Kaelten | j/k |
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| 23:11.00 | rubik | Arrowmaster: who's your feral karazhan tank? i want to see his gear |
| 23:11.05 | Ominous | does anyone have a copy of the autoprop wiki page |
| 23:11.16 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45947 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: |
| 23:11.16 | CIA-23 | BigWigs: SC/Hydross: |
| 23:11.16 | CIA-23 | - Fixed localization koKR |
| 23:11.25 | rubik | (getting my druid up to par for tanking karazhan.. so far, he's doing fine) |
| 23:11.55 | Arrowmaster | rubik, dahass on burninglegion us, hasnt been on for a while not sure what gear he logged out with equiped |
| 23:12.07 | rubik | k.. i'll check it out.. thanks |
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| 23:13.03 | CIA-23 | 03somerset * r45948 10BuffCheck/ (4 files): |
| 23:13.03 | CIA-23 | BuffCheck: |
| 23:13.03 | CIA-23 | - fixed german translation (umlauts) |
| 23:13.03 | CIA-23 | - added /bcheckdebug for debugging |
| 23:13.03 | CIA-23 | - fixed major shadow power |
| 23:13.04 | ccKep | man, lightfathom-scepter dropped today, and I spent my points greeding stupid enhancement stuff... |
| 23:13.25 | Dustwhisper- | sadface |
| 23:13.34 | Antiarc|Work | http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=653 |
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| 23:13.56 | rubik | Arrowmaster: Dahass is in dps gear unfortunately but some nice dps gear it is... |
| 23:14.12 | rubik | how does he do when he does dps in Karazhan? |
| 23:14.17 | Tuller | ruh roh, bunch of bars uses /bob as their slash command handler |
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| 23:15.25 | Xuerian | Tuller: Just can't find a slash command that doesn't get molested, can you |
| 23:15.28 | CIA-23 | 03somerset * r45949 10BuffCheck/BuffCheck.lua: |
| 23:15.28 | CIA-23 | BuffCheck: |
| 23:15.28 | CIA-23 | - removed debug stuff; sorry for double-committing |
| 23:15.38 | Tuller | nope :P |
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| 23:16.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower|Away] by ChanServ |
| 23:16.11 | Tuller | hopefully no one is using /bgs |
| 23:16.39 | break19 | who broke it this time? lol |
| 23:16.56 | Tuller | bunch of bars :) |
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| 23:17.15 | Tuller | (praid clone) |
| 23:17.44 | charon | $%&#@! shadowlabs |
| 23:17.54 | andross_ | bold shoulderplates? |
| 23:18.02 | andross_ | or that mage sword? |
| 23:18.07 | andross_ | sonic spear? lol |
| 23:18.15 | andross_ | so much "required" gear from that place |
| 23:18.34 | charon | no we're in there heroic and it's just not funny any more |
| 23:18.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 23:18.46 | KarlThePagan | oo |
| 23:18.47 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r45950 10Cartographer_Data/: Cartographer_Data: making dir, explanation will be in commit with files |
| 23:18.49 | charon | last wipe, a summoner had like 5 acolytes up constantly healing the nuke target |
| 23:19.16 | KarlThePagan | deffinately not funny |
| 23:19.38 | charon | course we split them around a corner, healer in the middle and all |
| 23:19.48 | charon | the acolytes proceeded to ignore LOS and heal anyway |
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| 23:21.20 | Dustwhisper- | Where ? |
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| 23:21.40 | charon | last bend before murmur |
| 23:21.48 | charon | 2nd pull on the last stretch |
| 23:21.49 | mort | just burn the summoner down |
| 23:22.10 | ccKep | the question is: why did he summon? :o |
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| 23:26.18 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r45951 10Cartographer_Data/ (4 files): Cartographer_Data: data for _Herbalism, _Mining and _Treasure which will be updated daily with the dataminer i run which gets data from wowhead |
| 23:27.30 | Funkeh` | daily? |
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| 23:27.39 | Funkeh` | yeah because they make new nodes everyday! |
| 23:27.49 | Ominous | meh weekly then |
| 23:27.54 | Ominous | more may be added to wowhead |
| 23:28.14 | Funkeh` | they will all be there considering the time scope since rlease |
| 23:31.31 | ccKep | cartographer_instanceloot could really use some skulls in hyjal ^.^ |
| 23:31.58 | Funkeh` | Yeah I have them local keep meaning to actually add them, will do soon ^^ |
| 23:33.01 | Megalon | skulls are overrated :< |
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| 23:33.39 | xyu` | hey, anyone know why the addon list won't show up for WAU under windows vista? |
| 23:33.42 | xyu` | anyone haev experience w/ that? |
| 23:34.46 | Amadeo | You are one of the few in here with Vista, I believe |
| 23:34.58 | xyu` | it's not for me :( |
| 23:35.00 | xyu` | for a friend |
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| 23:35.17 | Amadeo | I have no idea! |
| 23:35.19 | xyu` | it won't show up for him, think its a port issue? |
| 23:35.20 | xyu` | oh ok |
| 23:35.24 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 23:35.49 | Fwi1 | I had a problem like that for WAU1 (using Vista), I could only get it to work sporadically |
| 23:35.53 | Amadeo | I'm still trying to figure out if I'm the only one with PitBull layout problems :P |
| 23:36.07 | Keias | what kinda problems? |
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| 23:36.21 | Amadeo | If I import them by pasting into that window, they won't save through a reload or relog |
| 23:36.29 | Fwi1 | Addons not showing up in WAU, freezing when trying to update them |
| 23:36.34 | Keias | I had that problem while trying to copy a layout |
| 23:36.40 | Keias | So I just did it manually, and it saves now |
| 23:36.47 | Amadeo | How do you do it manually? |
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| 23:37.12 | Keias | Well for me, it was only my target frame that wasn't staying updated, because I was just copying the layout from my Player frame |
| 23:37.16 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 23:37.23 | cncfanatics | ping Cyrez / ckknight / Ominous :p |
| 23:37.23 | Keias | So I just configured the target frame from scratch |
| 23:37.31 | ckknight | cncfanatics: hrm? |
| 23:37.33 | Ominous | cncfanatics:hey |
| 23:37.39 | Amadeo | I see |
| 23:37.42 | Amadeo | good, so I'm not the only one :) |
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| 23:39.08 | ccKep | Funkeh` ? |
| 23:39.18 | Funkeh` | yes mate |
| 23:39.52 | ccKep | just looked at bigwigs_blacktemple (thought I mind find some AceModuleCore information in there while the wiki is down) |
| 23:40.08 | ccKep | if GetRealZoneText() == BZ["Black Temple"] then in OnEnable seems pretty pointless ^.^ |
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| 23:40.34 | RaydenUnicyclist | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/07/reader-ui-of-the-week-fabian/ <-- how hard is it to do your own custom UI like this? |
| 23:40.41 | RaydenUnicyclist | a friend of mine is a graphic designer and he's wondering |
| 23:40.46 | buu | Hrm. |
| 23:40.51 | Antiarc|Work | RaydenUnicyclist: How much free time does he have? |
| 23:40.55 | Antiarc|Work | Not hard, but there's a learning curve. |
| 23:40.59 | buu | RaydenUnicyclist: Point and click |
| 23:41.04 | Ominous | cncfanatics: what did you need us for? |
| 23:41.19 | RaydenUnicyclist | he can do all the art stuff, how much work to integrate it? |
| 23:41.37 | Funkeh` | its a tempt thing I don't really care ^^ |
| 23:41.43 | Antiarc|Work | RaydenUni: Not hard, but there's a learning curve. |
| 23:41.59 | RaydenUni | how many hours would you say to get started? |
| 23:42.14 | cncfanatics | ckknight, would it be possible to get untripped log messages in #wowace-cia ? |
| 23:42.20 | ckknight | untripped? |
| 23:42.20 | cncfanatics | Ominous, did u try out FB ? :p |
| 23:42.21 | RaydenUni | this guy says it took him 4-5 hours but i'm guessing he knows how to do it |
| 23:42.28 | cncfanatics | untrimmed* -.- |
| 23:42.31 | Ominous | cncfanatics: no i cant till its got stances |
| 23:42.35 | ckknight | oh, no idea |
| 23:42.41 | Antiarc|Work | How much experience does he have with wow's layout rules and the like? |
| 23:42.43 | ckknight | cncfanatics: ask Cyrez/Arrowmaster |
| 23:42.49 | cncfanatics | ckknight, will do thanks |
| 23:42.55 | cncfanatics | Ominous, thats coming soonish then |
| 23:43.00 | Arrowmaster | huh what? |
| 23:43.05 | Antiarc|Work | The short version is this: Make TGAs, put them in an addon folder, create texture objects for the pictures, position them. |
| 23:43.10 | Ominous | cncfanatics: as soon as it has that ill try it but as a rogue its pretty important |
| 23:43.18 | Antiarc|Work | Takes knowledge of the graphics work, XML, and the basics of WoW addons |
| 23:43.38 | RaydenUni | <Antiarc|Work> How much experience does he have with wow's layout rules and the like? <-- none |
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| 23:43.50 | Antiarc|Work | RaydenUni: It'll take some learning time then. |
| 23:44.02 | cncfanatics | Ominous, heh indeed |
| 23:44.14 | cncfanatics | I totaly forgot how to include them though, has been a while |
| 23:45.15 | RaydenUni | what is xart? |
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| 23:45.46 | Amadeo | maybe it's just me, but my WoW fonts look big and bold now since my last update |
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| 23:47.27 | RaydenUni | looks like xart will display a background image |
| 23:47.36 | RaydenUni | with that all you need is the image |
| 23:47.37 | RaydenUni | dunno |
| 23:47.47 | RaydenUni | i can't find any documentation on it but it's on the wowace repo |
| 23:48.02 | ccKep | download it, and look what it does ;) |
| 23:48.03 | Hjalte | ckknight, does this mean anything to you? http://ace.pastey.net/71922 |
| 23:49.04 | ckknight | GetSpellTabInfo(tree) seems to be returning bad values |
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| 23:52.05 | Hjalte | ckknight, oh, I have no clue what that means. Was trying to kill an elite on my lvl 30 warlock when it happened. |
| 23:52.52 | ckknight | did he interrupt your spells? |
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| 23:54.49 | Hjalte | yeah, he did actually do something that caused my spells to go on a 6 seconds cd |
| 23:56.22 | Coruss | probly a kick/shield bash kinda move |
| 23:56.34 | Wobwork | interrupted that school |
| 23:56.40 | Coruss | ya |
| 23:57.11 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r45952 10Parrot/Data/Cooldowns.lua: Parrot_Cooldowns - possible bugfix |
| 23:57.15 | ckknight | please test that |
| 23:59.37 | Coruss | well I guess I'll start on my addon tomorrow, |
| 23:59.46 | ckknight | which addon is this? |
