| 00:00.00 | Gngsk | "feel me up" |
| 00:00.19 | yacoob | "before you go go"? :D |
| 00:00.24 | Fisker- | SUCK MY DICK!!!!!!! |
| 00:00.31 | Fisker- | I AM A STARCRAFT PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYEEEEEEEEEEER |
| 00:00.31 | Knaledge | Also - how do I check my... messages? or something |
| 00:00.41 | Garoun|Loupana | anyone know why Recount spams my chat with Recount: Checking raidx everytime a group member changes groups? |
| 00:00.45 | Knaledge | I got a message from purl saying I have one from ckknight |
| 00:01.13 | *** join/#wowace Qaarh (n=Qaarh@ti211110a340-0165.bb.online.no) |
| 00:01.42 | Fisker- | have you registered your nickname? |
| 00:01.49 | Knaledge | I don't have a clue |
| 00:01.54 | Fisker- | /msg nickserv help |
| 00:01.54 | Knaledge | I'd imagine not |
| 00:01.58 | Fisker- | look for register |
| 00:02.23 | Fisker- | you can't whisper people, or get whispered by people if you're not identified |
| 00:02.58 | *** join/#wowace CIA-22 (n=CIA@208.69.182.149) |
| 00:03.03 | NightHawkTheSane | you might still be able to whisper purl, i'm not sure |
| 00:03.12 | NightHawkTheSane | you could try messaging purl ~botmail |
| 00:03.44 | Knaledge | ~purl botmail |
| 00:03.53 | NightHawkTheSane | message purl directly |
| 00:04.05 | Fisker- | wouldn't he need to be identified still? |
| 00:04.11 | NightHawkTheSane | for obvious reasons, it probably doesn't respond to botmail queries in public |
| 00:04.12 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't know |
| 00:04.14 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe |
| 00:04.36 | Fisker- | it could still message one :P |
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| 00:05.09 | Sole | good morning |
| 00:05.20 | Amadeo | mornin |
| 00:05.20 | Fisker- | it's night |
| 00:05.29 | Sole | ~gmt |
| 00:05.30 | purl | Generic Mapping Tools. URL: http://imina.soest.hawaii.edu/gmt/. Greenwich Mean Time |
| 00:05.32 | Fisker- | no |
| 00:05.34 | Sole | err |
| 00:05.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ~ugt |
| 00:05.34 | purl | ugt is probably Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 00:05.36 | Fisker- | it's ~ugt |
| 00:05.38 | Undine | it's the sort of morning which means i'm up too late :) |
| 00:05.39 | Fisker- | and don't even think about it :( |
| 00:05.44 | NightHawkTheSane | also, morning Sole |
| 00:05.50 | Sole | hallo |
| 00:05.59 | NightHawkTheSane | and off i go to shower. |
| 00:06.05 | Knaledge | ah ok that worked |
| 00:06.08 | Sole | I should probly shower too |
| 00:06.14 | dreamss2 | hehe i love that |
| 00:06.16 | Amadeo | this early? |
| 00:06.18 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 00:06.20 | Sole | I spilt a can of alcohol down my back and into my asscrack last night =\ |
| 00:06.27 | Knaledge | it was just ck laughing at how I grouped with his sister in law in the game on my server |
| 00:06.38 | dreamss2 | split? |
| 00:06.46 | Sole | spilt |
| 00:06.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: suckage. |
| 00:06.58 | dreamss2 | oh |
| 00:06.59 | Sole | oh it wasnt too bad |
| 00:07.02 | Sole | I was kinda hot anyway |
| 00:07.04 | Sole | and it was cold |
| 00:07.08 | Sole | it just felt a bit funny |
| 00:07.10 | dreamss2 | how u spill it on your back? |
| 00:07.10 | Knaledge | was there some girl at the other end? |
| 00:07.15 | Knaledge | girls dig that stuff you know |
| 00:07.18 | Sole | kinda |
| 00:07.24 | Sole | it was because of a girl |
| 00:07.27 | Knaledge | I know, sometimes they kinda do |
| 00:07.55 | Amadeo | I wanna play WC3 |
| 00:08.01 | Amadeo | shouldn't it be in the bargain bins by now? |
| 00:08.07 | Knaledge | diablo 2 is |
| 00:08.14 | Fisker- | oh my god |
| 00:08.18 | Knaledge | you can get it at EB/gamestop for $5 |
| 00:08.20 | Fisker- | that german is priceless |
| 00:08.22 | Knaledge | for each one |
| 00:08.33 | Sole | I had glow bracelets and this spanish exchange student from my school was all ooh can I have it? and I lifted my arm to unclick the bracelet and forgot that I had a can in that same hand |
| 00:08.36 | Sole | amazing story |
| 00:08.59 | Knaledge | the moral of the story is: did you sleep with her? |
| 00:09.10 | Sole | not yet |
| 00:09.13 | Knaledge | Failed. |
| 00:09.22 | Amadeo | meeeee |
| 00:09.25 | Knaledge | URNAHTDOINETRITE! |
| 00:09.26 | Sole | party got broken up =\ and I lost her |
| 00:09.35 | Sole | so I couldnt pull the "lets continue this party at my place!" line |
| 00:09.36 | Amadeo | That's why you always bring a leash |
| 00:09.50 | Keias | Thats when you slip her a roofie |
| 00:10.01 | Sole | lol |
| 00:10.11 | Knaledge | or the ever graceful "I'm screw lets horny" |
| 00:10.11 | kebinusan | http://youtube.com/watch?v=yKSUt8yY7Q8 |
| 00:10.15 | Keias | rofl |
| 00:10.19 | Sole | lmao |
| 00:10.19 | Keias | Sounds VERY graceful |
| 00:10.27 | kebinusan | Chloroform the one you love |
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| 00:10.33 | Knaledge | heh |
| 00:11.22 | Knaledge | damnit I still need a stupid addon that let's me keep track of how much money I owe people for sellng their shit |
| 00:11.38 | Keias | I just put it in Officer notes, cause I'm lazy |
| 00:11.53 | Amadeo | Knaledge: Yeah, when are you going to give me my 500g back? |
| 00:11.55 | Knaledge | yeah but now I do it for like 6 people |
| 00:12.12 | Knaledge | heh |
| 00:12.14 | Knaledge | uh... |
| 00:12.25 | Amadeo | hahah |
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| 00:13.00 | knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.04 | Amadeo | :) |
| 00:13.21 | knaledge | But seriously folks.. |
| 00:13.25 | knaledge | there HAS to be something out there |
| 00:13.33 | Sole | mabe |
| 00:13.36 | knaledge | I just need something that A) sees who sent me an item, and records what it is |
| 00:13.56 | knaledge | and B) keeps track of how much I either sold it for on the AH or vendor and let's me know how much I owe that person |
| 00:13.58 | knaledge | thats it |
| 00:14.59 | knaledge | I honestly am surprised this isn't already something that exists |
| 00:15.03 | knaledge | I mean... how do guilds do this? |
| 00:15.23 | Dustwhisper| | brains |
| 00:15.25 | knaledge | especially those that pay out from the guildbank for items received? |
| 00:15.33 | Dustwhisper| | a guildy has a A4 booklet where he has guilddebts =D |
| 00:15.38 | Dustwhisper| | guildies owe him over 25k gold so |
| 00:15.48 | knaledge | steals hiw PS and sells his stuff |
| 00:15.52 | knaledge | then digitally busts his knees |
| 00:16.03 | knaledge | WTB epic wheelchair |
| 00:16.13 | knaledge | pst |
| 00:16.19 | Sole | haha my friend just got this error on vista: " |
| 00:16.24 | Sole | windows has caused an illegal operation and needs to be shut down |
| 00:16.35 | knaledge | and it says Yes and NO? |
| 00:17.28 | Amadeo | Sole: What caused it? |
| 00:17.33 | Sole | I dunno |
| 00:17.34 | Sole | not my error |
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| 00:17.48 | Amadeo | You're talking about someone elses errors! |
| 00:17.53 | Sole | yees |
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| 00:18.41 | knaledge | Dude... are you sure this exchange student.. you just... "lost her" of her own volition? |
| 00:18.59 | knaledge | or... did she see you sneaking a peak at someone elses LCD scrounging for error messages? |
| 00:19.05 | knaledge | because damn.. |
| 00:19.14 | Dustwhisper| | it's easy to lose chicks when you get to drunk |
| 00:19.26 | Dustwhisper| | like "Oh didnt i just talk to someoen" and you are 2 miles away |
| 00:19.32 | Dustwhisper| | at some other bar or in bed or somehting |
| 00:19.33 | Jaxon | Does ORA really need to give me updates on when my pet joins/leaves my group? |
| 00:19.42 | knaledge | and it's easy for dudes to make chicks get lost after they're drunk |
| 00:19.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:20.01 | knaledge | whats up ck |
| 00:20.07 | Amadeo | sup ckk |
| 00:20.10 | ckknight | just got off work |
| 00:20.16 | Amadeo | at Spacetime Studios? |
| 00:20.18 | Amadeo | or whatever |
| 00:20.19 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:20.42 | knaledge | hey ck I forget your sister in laws name in WoW but yeah I did group with her |
| 00:20.50 | knaledge | she's good PR for fubar |
| 00:21.06 | ckknight | she probably played as Felhen |
| 00:21.10 | knaledge | thats it |
| 00:21.21 | Amadeo | that's a demon hen |
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| 00:21.29 | knaledge | small world.. |
| 00:21.30 | ckknight | precisely, Amadeo |
| 00:21.33 | knaledge | of warcract |
| 00:21.43 | knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.45 | Amadeo | demon chick? |
| 00:21.54 | ckknight | Nelf hunter |
| 00:21.58 | mikma | (insert roflcopter giggle here) |
| 00:22.01 | Amadeo | there's more to it than you think! |
| 00:22.28 | knaledge | Oh also ck... on cart |
| 00:22.42 | knaledge | has anyone reported notations sometimes not being able to be moused over on worldmap? |
| 00:22.52 | ckknight | it happens |
| 00:22.53 | Dustwhisper| | seriously |
| 00:22.55 | Dustwhisper| | someone kill that girl |
| 00:22.57 | ckknight | it's a framelevel messup |
| 00:23.02 | ckknight | Dustwhisper|: ? |
| 00:23.03 | knaledge | this occurs only when the location name appears for shat let's say |
| 00:23.09 | knaledge | ah ok |
| 00:23.09 | Dustwhisper| | the commentator on the giga stream ckknight |
| 00:23.09 | Dustwhisper| | =D |
| 00:23.12 | knaledge | was just curious |
| 00:23.14 | ckknight | oh |
| 00:23.18 | Fisker- | in b4 gg |
| 00:23.24 | ckknight | so I thought up the best idea for an MMO |
| 00:23.27 | Dustwhisper| | she keeps imitating the death-sfx of the war3 mobs |
| 00:23.30 | ckknight | while working today |
| 00:23.32 | Dustwhisper| | Pokémon |
| 00:23.35 | Dustwhisper| | best MMORPG idea |
| 00:23.37 | Amadeo | Dustwhisper|: I don't mind her, she's better than he is |
| 00:23.38 | Gngsk | YES! |
| 00:23.41 | knaledge | sometimes screws me up because lightheaded has waypoitns it sets but sometimes I can't mouseover them because cart is displaying the location name in white |
| 00:23.45 | Gngsk | DON'T GET CAUGHT! |
| 00:23.52 | Dustwhisper| | i like the new concept from Funcom though |
| 00:23.59 | ckknight | Funcom? |
| 00:24.03 | Dustwhisper| | a realworld MMORPG that intertwines sagas and fantasies into reallife |
| 00:24.10 | Dustwhisper| | yes funcom |
| 00:24.21 | Amadeo | Funcom, bleh |
| 00:24.34 | Dustwhisper| | age of conan is amazing aswell |
| 00:24.43 | Amadeo | I don't think it'll go anywhere |
| 00:24.47 | Sole | < warhammer closed beta what what |
| 00:24.49 | BankZ | I wish TinyTip woould hide tooltips in combat |
| 00:24.58 | knaledge | @ sole: work at EA, what what |
| 00:25.00 | ckknight | my idea is basically a time-travel-oriented MMO, like Chrono Trigger only with more lotr and planet of the apes and terminator 2 stuff |
| 00:25.07 | knaledge | @sole: had it forever now... what ... what... =/ |
| 00:25.14 | ckknight | Knaledge: I want a job |
| 00:25.15 | Amadeo | WoW will continue to be the major player, Warhammer will pick up a decent population, but it won't hurt WoW much |
| 00:25.20 | Amadeo | that's all you have to worry about |
| 00:25.27 | Sole | knaledge: yeah well alphas arent much to play so it dont matter |
| 00:25.40 | knaledge | I know but ... I do play it |
| 00:25.41 | knaledge | at work |
| 00:25.44 | knaledge | on my breaks |
| 00:25.46 | Sole | haha |
| 00:25.51 | knaledge | latest build was from midnight last night |
| 00:26.14 | Sole | I should patch up then |
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| 00:26.24 | Amadeo | knaledge: Get me in the beta ;) |
| 00:26.31 | Amadeo | and you don't have to pay me back the 500g |
| 00:26.34 | knaledge | Would if I could |
| 00:27.13 | FrostByghte | ckknight: do a web based game like KoL or something...I think they have 5 full time employees just from donations |
| 00:27.33 | Sole | KoL? |
| 00:27.38 | ckknight | lol, I've played that |
| 00:27.45 | ckknight | moxie up |
| 00:27.47 | FrostByghte | :) |
| 00:28.00 | FrostByghte | ya...we host one of their fan sites, they have quite a crowd |
| 00:28.09 | Sole | knaledge: if you dont mind me asking, whats your job at EA? |
| 00:28.18 | Sole | whats KoL :( |
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| 00:28.30 | Dustwhisper| | he Secret World’ (TSW) is inspired by history and mythology, modern conspiracy theories and ancient mysteries. For there really is a world within ours, a secret world, where magic exists, monsters roam and ancient forces are fighting for the dominance of earth. It is a world of legendary stories, ageless conflicts and powerful cabals. In this world, even modern cities hide secrets. In this world, players can take part in the greatest conspir |
| 00:28.35 | FrostByghte | Kingdom of Loathing |
| 00:28.35 | ckknight | Sole: google |
| 00:28.49 | Sole | ckknight: KoL can stand for a lot of things |
| 00:28.57 | Sole | thanks FrostByghte |
| 00:28.57 | Industrial | ANyone ever made an auto shot bar? :P |
| 00:29.06 | Sole | quartz |
| 00:29.12 | FrostByghte | quartz swing bar is awesome |
| 00:29.14 | Industrial | did you make it? |
| 00:29.18 | Sole | quartz_swing |
| 00:29.20 | Sole | no |
| 00:29.22 | Sole | nymbia did |
| 00:29.40 | Industrial | < Industrial> ANyone ever made an auto shot bar? :P |
| 00:30.00 | NightHawkTheSane | quartz's swing bar handles auto shot |
| 00:30.12 | Industrial | thats not what I asked |
| 00:30.34 | NightHawkTheSane | alright, then yes, severalpeople have, inthe past, made auto-shot bars. |
| 00:30.40 | NightHawkTheSane | insert spaces as appropriate. :P |
| 00:30.45 | Industrial | yes funny |
| 00:30.48 | Industrial | ha ha |
| 00:31.20 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i slay myself. |
| 00:34.09 | Dustwhisper| | damnit |
| 00:34.12 | Dustwhisper| | creolophus is norwegian |
| 00:34.18 | Amadeo | Why do these WC3 competitors only use NE or Orc? |
| 00:34.47 | Amadeo | oh, Human also |
| 00:34.49 | Amadeo | what about Undead? |
| 00:34.55 | Dustwhisper| | i was originally cheering for remind cause creolophus is a totally gay name |
| 00:34.58 | Dustwhisper| | but since he is norwegian |
| 00:35.01 | Dustwhisper| | i kinda have to root for him now |
| 00:35.42 | Amadeo | StarCraft games seem to take a ton more skill |
| 00:35.45 | knaledge | Someone should used a death knight |
| 00:36.16 | knaledge | and kill everyone in that tourney |
| 00:36.16 | knaledge | WC3: WotLK |
| 00:36.16 | Dustwhisper| | ye i love the SC games |
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| 00:37.45 | knaledge | ClosetGnome: better on UI mem usage than outfitter? |
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| 00:38.16 | knaledge | after a run of herbing, outfitter goes from 1.12MB UI mem usage to 4.6 and up |
| 00:38.30 | knaledge | and it only reverts back to 1.x MB when I clear garbage |
| 00:41.35 | Sole | most definetly it is |
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| 00:42.05 | knaledge | I'll give it a shot then |
| 00:42.14 | Sole | it was coded by vhaarr, and mem usage is a biggie for him |
| 00:42.19 | Sole | from what Ive seen of his code |
| 00:42.40 | knaledge | I also get frustrated with it because sometimes it.. "forgets" .... that I dismounted but still reports that I have my "Main" outfit on (read: NOT RIDING GEAR) |
| 00:42.56 | knaledge | and I'll go to click on a trinket in my actionbar and I get "Item not equipped" |
| 00:43.07 | knaledge | I go and look and OHHH sure enough.. my riding crop is still on.. |
| 00:43.26 | knaledge | even though outfitter says iit is equipping me with my default gear |
| 00:43.30 | knaledge | THAT = sucks |
| 00:44.19 | *** part/#wowace Industrial (n=Industri@194.145.194.227) |
| 00:44.40 | knaledge | ohh also |
| 00:44.50 | knaledge | closetgnome have a Fu extension? |
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| 00:45.01 | Undine | yes |
| 00:45.05 | knaledge | I like how outfitter can be placed in my FuBar... albeit via a very outdated plugin |
| 00:45.09 | knaledge | alright cool |
| 00:45.27 | knaledge | is it built in? I dont see it in the MAU list |
| 00:45.32 | knaledge | (WAU) |
| 00:45.45 | Undine | builtin |
| 00:45.49 | knaledge | sweet :) thanks |
| 00:46.13 | Undine | why do npcs walk so slooooowly :( |
| 00:46.49 | knaledge | what does closetgnome_switcher do? |
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| 00:46.59 | knaledge | funny desc... not really clear. |
| 00:47.09 | Dustwhisper| | omfg |
| 00:47.15 | Dustwhisper| | i did not expect this from remind |
| 00:48.00 | Thorgard | Dustwhisper|, que? |
| 00:48.09 | Undine | i think switcher adds some automatic outfit switching, such as for fishing/mount possibly |
| 00:48.18 | knaledge | oh.. |
| 00:48.19 | Dustwhisper| | the war3 finals |
| 00:48.20 | Undine | i've not worked out which of those are builtin and which are switcher |
| 00:48.26 | knaledge | ten what does closetgnome_mount do? lol |
| 00:48.53 | Undine | ah,mount is mount. switcher has drink/food/login/logout |
| 00:48.59 | Undine | possibly more but not on this char |
| 00:49.11 | knaledge | people change outfits for that stuff? |
| 00:49.14 | Undine | like i think it can do cat/bear for droods |
| 00:49.21 | knaledge | ohh, yeah alright |
| 00:49.32 | knaledge | rogue here so.. I need something for mounting, mining, herbing, and uhm... |
| 00:49.41 | Undine | backstab? |
| 00:49.46 | knaledge | lol I guess? |
| 00:49.50 | knaledge | nah comb daggers so.. |
| 00:49.59 | knaledge | I guess tats all I need then |
| 00:50.16 | knaledge | outfitter just irks me because its A) outdated and B) seems to have a memory leak |
| 00:50.18 | Undine | hunter atm so i need an outfit for killing stuff and ... no that's it :) |
| 00:50.37 | knaledge | oh and C) fucking forgts to you know.. change my outfits. |
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| 00:50.56 | KarlThePagan | I had my doubts that I would be able to use CG instead of outfitter, but after actually using CG only... it doesn't bug me much |
| 00:51.13 | Undine | the gnome can get confused. like when you log out on your mount |
| 00:51.14 | knaledge | does anything lack in CG that outfitter DOES do? |
| 00:51.31 | knaledge | keep in mind my simple needs |
| 00:51.35 | KarlThePagan | outfitter has equip stacks... so you can put on one and then another and it toggles and such |
| 00:51.45 | Undine | outfitter is the one that can generate outfits, like for best fire resist? |
| 00:51.46 | KarlThePagan | which is not a big need |
| 00:51.54 | KarlThePagan | yea the outfit generation is good/ bad |
| 00:52.00 | KarlThePagan | it doesn't consider set bonuses |
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| 00:52.08 | KarlThePagan | CG doesn't have any but meh |
| 00:52.09 | knaledge | karlthepagan like.. |
| 00:52.12 | knaledge | karlkfi? |
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| 00:52.31 | KarlThePagan | knaledge, no KarlKFI is AnduinLothar |
| 00:52.41 | knaledge | ah ok :) |
| 00:52.43 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 00:52.58 | knaledge | what does he do? |
| 00:53.02 | knaledge | I forget |
| 00:53.07 | KarlThePagan | only cosmos ;) |
| 00:53.17 | knaledge | oh mobileframes |
| 00:53.17 | KarlThePagan | and a million abandoned Lua projects |
| 00:53.28 | knaledge | er, fluidframes now (which I love) |
| 00:53.30 | KarlThePagan | yea like that... damagemeters... about 100 other ones |
| 00:53.54 | knaledge | you know what I wish existed still? |
| 00:53.59 | knaledge | what was it.. |
| 00:54.03 | knaledge | DepositBox ? |
| 00:54.08 | knaledge | that shit ruled. |
| 00:54.09 | KarlThePagan | btw... he'd probably love it if you pinged him every 2 minutes from 7 to 10pm while he's raiding tk |
| 00:54.24 | knaledge | EST? |
| 00:54.27 | KarlThePagan | pst |
| 00:54.30 | knaledge | noted |
| 00:54.40 | KarlThePagan | err no 6pm to 10pm ;) |
| 00:54.43 | knaledge | Anyone know of any DepositBox replacement? |
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| 00:55.10 | knaledge | aww and another on eI am sad about is CritRecord |
| 00:55.21 | Dustwhisper| | how does that event based combatlog thing work? that incoming feature |
| 00:55.22 | Undine | bah. think my gaming pc is dying :( |
| 00:55.23 | Diao | critrecord? |
| 00:55.26 | knaledge | I <3 CritRecord and DepositBox |
| 00:55.30 | Diao | doesn't topscorefu do that |
| 00:55.31 | KarlThePagan | knaledge, TopScoreFu |
| 00:55.45 | knaledge | IS it simple like CritRecord was? |
| 00:55.51 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 00:56.06 | KarlThePagan | simpler... crit record did filtering based on level etc |
| 00:56.07 | knaledge | I basically helped show the original author what it should look like in Titan and he loved it |
| 00:56.15 | knaledge | yeah I dont need tooltip stuff etc. |
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| 00:56.26 | knaledge | I just need something that sits in my bar and says HEY! Ambush just hit for XXXX |
| 00:56.40 | knaledge | none of this live monitoring stuff (which I never got anyways..) |
| 00:57.13 | KarlThePagan | yea you can turn off the display |
| 00:57.20 | knaledge | just want something to show an icon for the addon, the name of the newly broken record for that ability, and how much it crit for that broke the record |
| 00:57.23 | KarlThePagan | or MSBT will show your records |
| 00:57.27 | knaledge | and it changes only when I break a new record |
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| 00:57.53 | knaledge | so like [icon] AMBUSH: 2789 |
| 00:58.06 | knaledge | and then I am backstabbing a mob and I break a record and then it hanges it |
| 00:58.13 | knaledge | [icon] BACKSTAB: 1899 |
| 00:58.17 | knaledge | etc. etc. |
| 00:58.34 | knaledge | thats topscorefu? |
| 00:59.02 | KarlThePagan | ah not quite |
| 00:59.10 | KarlThePagan | but that modification wouldn't be hard to do at all |
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| 00:59.18 | knaledge | who do I talk to about that? |
| 00:59.28 | knaledge | that would be a great "mode" for that addon to switch into |
| 00:59.29 | KarlThePagan | anyone who has commit access |
| 00:59.41 | KarlThePagan | which I do... so hmm |
| 00:59.56 | KarlThePagan | the last thing I did was make ReagentFu show arrows/bullets for warriors, rogues, hunters |
| 01:00.03 | knaledge | thats all I need it to do, very simply. Just [icon] ambush: 1899 and then it stays up there, no matter what, until I break a new record |
| 01:00.05 | knaledge | and it changes |
| 01:00.06 | KarlThePagan | but other than that I've failed at any real modding ;) |
| 01:00.24 | KarlThePagan | yea that would be damn easy to do |
| 01:00.32 | KarlThePagan | i'll poke at it tonight |
| 01:00.36 | KarlThePagan | can't raid so i might as well |
| 01:00.41 | knaledge | he also did it so that the icon for the addon changed to the icon of the ability |
| 01:00.50 | KarlThePagan | slightly more difficult |
| 01:00.52 | knaledge | that was pretty slick |
| 01:00.57 | KarlThePagan | possible tho |
| 01:00.57 | knaledge | not a big deal though lol |
| 01:01.24 | knaledge | THat's going to be awesome :) no pressure if it doesnt get done but if it does |
| 01:01.28 | knaledge | a big "Thank you" in advance :) |
| 01:01.50 | KarlThePagan | hehe k |
| 01:01.55 | knaledge | that and DepositBox are the only mods I miss from the good old days |
| 01:02.06 | KarlThePagan | what's deposit box do? |
| 01:02.14 | knaledge | so ok you have a ton of money on you.. |
| 01:02.20 | KarlThePagan | sends to alt? |
| 01:02.25 | knaledge | if you're like me... you spend it impulsively |
| 01:02.30 | knaledge | nah nah |
| 01:02.31 | KarlThePagan | haha yea |
| 01:02.33 | KarlThePagan | oh |
| 01:02.37 | knaledge | so what this mod does |
| 01:02.43 | knaledge | it actually "removes" money from your bag |
| 01:02.50 | knaledge | literally.. so that the game thinks you only have X amount |
| 01:03.04 | knaledge | and then I have to open depositbox to "withdraw" an amount |
| 01:03.13 | knaledge | and then the game now "sees" that I have X amount |
| 01:03.21 | knaledge | er.. Y amount in this case |
| 01:03.36 | knaledge | I can deposit money, auto deposit money |
| 01:03.45 | knaledge | (directdeposit based on a %) |
| 01:03.57 | knaledge | and withdraw "only if needed" (repairs, etc.) |
| 01:04.02 | knaledge | all of that is optional |
| 01:04.10 | Diao | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/2051/ |
| 01:04.14 | Diao | does that not work? |
| 01:04.19 | KarlThePagan | sounds good |
| 01:04.22 | knaledge | that one is fucked |
| 01:04.28 | knaledge | it constantly errors |
| 01:04.38 | knaledge | and in some cases, you have to delete the addon t see your money again |
| 01:04.53 | knaledge | it's an oldie, but a goodie.. just the goodie get broke |
| 01:05.03 | Dustwhisper| | damn i broke my code somehow, sadface |
| 01:05.35 | knaledge | OH! and about that one on curse |
| 01:05.42 | NM|Xinhuan | [8/5 08:53:10] <+myst> 4:15pm: The future of Battlegrounds. In AV, players won't spawn in the cave until there's nowhere else to spawn. Anti-AFK measures gets applause from the crowd. What we're going to do is give the players ability to report other players for |
| 01:05.49 | NM|Xinhuan | being AFK, like the spam reports. Once enough players have reported that person, and a debuff appears that only goes away when they show up in combat. If they don't get into combat, no honor gain |
| 01:05.51 | knaledge | the author abandoned it and never redid the fubar/titan support |
| 01:05.56 | knaledge | which sucks |
| 01:07.19 | knaledge | So yeah, if someone remade that and called it something funny like most ace addons tend to be (which I like), then it'd probbly be another winner |
| 01:07.32 | knaledge | because it was a hit back then |
| 01:07.53 | Sole | so |
| 01:07.59 | Sole | just rewrite the DepositBox addon? |
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| 01:08.14 | knaledge | I can't but |
| 01:08.20 | knaledge | just saying |
| 01:08.25 | knaledge | it's there for the taking |
| 01:08.27 | Sole | I mjust asking |
| 01:08.31 | Sole | if thats what needs to be done |
| 01:08.34 | Trancer | a funny I picked up elsewhere but made me giggle.. "The new level 80 shaman skill is "Crusader totem" which increases the mount speed of all party members within 30 yards of the totem. |
| 01:08.36 | knaledge | but yeah thats all it would need |
| 01:08.50 | knaledge | it works great aside from some funky issues reported lately |
| 01:08.55 | knaledge | (which you can see on that curse page) |
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| 01:09.02 | knaledge | but outside of that, it worked awesome |
| 01:09.26 | Wobin_ | Trancer: that's great =) |
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| 01:09.49 | knaledge | also I love FuXPFu ;) |
| 01:09.50 | Trancer | Aye, imagine the speed when using a flying mount! |
| 01:09.53 | knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.11 | Wobin_ | knaledge: \O/ |
| 01:11.03 | Sole | knaledge: I'll give it a hack if I have time |
| 01:11.15 | Sole | doesnt sound too bad |
| 01:11.32 | Sole | but Im still a bit hungover so yeah |
| 01:11.43 | Sole | no headache again though, woot |
| 01:11.49 | Wobin_ | Kemayo: You about? |
| 01:12.13 | Dustwhisper| | damn we norwegians are crap at english |
| 01:13.55 | KarlThePagan | bbl |
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| 01:14.28 | knaledge | @sole: awesome! |
| 01:14.32 | knaledge | thanks too |
| 01:14.43 | knaledge | it should definitly generate some traffic |
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| 01:16.18 | xyu | WoW arena matches up nextzor |
| 01:16.52 | Amadeo | :D |
| 01:17.14 | Amadeo | I hate the Godfather, but I thought it was hilarious that they won with a Hunter |
| 01:17.36 | Amadeo | are they allowed to change their team from game to game? |
| 01:19.12 | Amadeo | who is that? Mike Mor-whatever? |
| 01:19.53 | twinight | where are you watching? |
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| 01:20.00 | Amadeo | ~livestream |
| 01:20.00 | purl | i heard livestream is http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the player(if octoshape is running) |
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| 01:30.15 | xyu | wow he's stoned |
| 01:30.20 | Dustwhisper| | haha ye |
| 01:30.21 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:30.57 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 01:31.00 | Dustwhisper| | wtf |
| 01:31.02 | Dustwhisper| | that from a stoner |
| 01:31.06 | Dustwhisper| | creative minds |
| 01:31.18 | xyu | shakespearean shit! |
| 01:32.04 | Chompers | that dude rocks |
| 01:32.09 | Chompers | FOR THE HORDE |
| 01:32.11 | Dustwhisper| | kinda |
| 01:32.38 | Dustwhisper| | these peoples presence seems liek " we love the game and we care about the game but at the same time we dont give a fuck about you or really the game" |
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| 01:33.39 | xyu | of cour$e not, they're intere$ted in $omething el$e |
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| 01:37.26 | Amadeo | heh, have you seen MoB gaming? |
| 01:37.35 | Amadeo | all they do is say sponsor names over and over, it's so stupid |
| 01:37.49 | Dustwhisper| | man |
| 01:37.53 | Dustwhisper| | russel peters first standup was great |
| 01:37.59 | Dustwhisper| | but watching russel peters outsourced now |
| 01:38.05 | Dustwhisper| | it is probably the funniest standup i have seen |
| 01:38.14 | Dustwhisper| | since Delirious and hmm robin williams live on broadway |
| 01:38.48 | xyu | is it on youtube/ |
| 01:38.56 | Trancer | outsourced is awesome |
| 01:39.04 | Trancer | many of it is xyu |
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| 01:43.07 | Amadeo | Arena competition is on |
| 01:45.05 | Amadeo | The Hukhukhuks are Korean? |
| 01:45.15 | Amadeo | nope |
| 01:45.26 | Dustwhisper| | team HUKHUKHUKHUKHUKHUKHUKs ? |
| 01:45.26 | Dustwhisper| | wtf |
| 01:45.38 | Health | Cool name |
| 01:45.44 | xyu | they have to QUEUE?!!?!? |
| 01:45.47 | Amadeo | yep |
| 01:45.48 | xyu | haaaa |
| 01:45.56 | Amadeo | and they always have trouble getting it to work |
| 01:46.30 | xyu | are they going to show class makeup? |
| 01:46.56 | xyu | ? |
| 01:46.57 | xyu | i dont see shti |
| 01:46.59 | xyu | shit |
| 01:47.01 | xyu | ah |
| 01:47.34 | Wobin_ | strain a bit harder |
| 01:47.41 | Wobin_ | and eat metamucil |
| 01:47.50 | Wobin_ | keeps you regular, you know |
| 01:47.56 | xyu | goign to be a mana fight |
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| 01:49.00 | xyu | lol can they just hear the comentator announce who's being targetted? |
| 01:49.20 | Wobin_ | "EVADE EVADE!" |
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| 01:51.27 | Health | "Leeroy" is so clueless |
| 01:51.41 | Health | Have no idea what he is talking about |
| 01:51.43 | xyu | dmg must = leetness |
| 01:51.44 | xyu | lol |
| 01:51.45 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:52.39 | Health | "Look! He has MS! They're targeting him, no him! PANIC!" |
| 01:53.27 | xyu | warriors are ez to burn |
| 01:53.31 | xyu | depending on team |
| 01:53.41 | xyu | they dont' get bubbles generally |
| 01:54.00 | Health | Really? What 5v5 rating do you have? |
| 01:54.18 | xyu | nothing great 1900 |
| 01:54.37 | xyu | you think war is hard to burn? |
| 01:54.40 | xyu | o_O |
| 01:54.53 | xyu | what rating you on? |
| 01:55.05 | Nargiddley | is CIA-22 down ? |
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| 01:56.40 | ccKep | man.. I just can't get this GameTooltip thingie to work, any suggestions? |
| 01:56.52 | Shirik | what's the problem? |
| 01:56.55 | NM|Xinhuan | need more info |
| 01:57.00 | ccKep | what i do: |
| 01:57.21 | Shirik | what you don't do: post your code here, please >< |
| 01:57.37 | ccKep | no, just a one-liner explanation |
| 01:57.40 | Shirik | ah ok |
| 01:57.45 | Amadeo | haha, lag issues |
| 01:57.48 | Shirik | too many times I've heard that statement... right before a 20 line post |
| 01:57.54 | ccKep | :SetOwner(frame, "ANCHOR_CURSOR") :SetHyperlink(<2nd return value of GetItemInfo>) :Show() |
| 01:58.01 | ccKep | what happens: |
| 01:58.03 | Shirik | woah |
| 01:58.05 | ccKep | an empty tooltip appears |
| 01:58.09 | Shirik | ok |
| 01:58.15 | Shirik | so, frame is not the tooltip though, right? |
| 01:58.19 | ccKep | no |
| 01:58.21 | Shirik | it's just the parent? |
| 01:58.25 | ccKep | it's an CreateFrame'd frame |
| 01:58.28 | Shirik | ok |
| 01:58.48 | Shirik | and you're sure the second return value of GetItemInfo is correct? |
| 01:58.56 | ccKep | !api GetItemInfo |
| 01:58.56 | ThraeBot | ccKep: itemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount, itemEquipLoc, itemTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID or "itemString" or "itemName" or "itemLink") -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 01:58.58 | NM|Xinhuan | did you verify that the <2nd return value> exists? |
| 01:59.01 | Shirik | no I mean |
| 01:59.06 | Shirik | verify that it's outputting what you want |
| 01:59.13 | NM|Xinhuan | it could just be a "nil" you're getting |
| 01:59.17 | Shirik | occasionally GetItemInfo is unhappy and returns nil |
| 01:59.21 | ccKep | in the var? I'm 99% sure, I'll add a :Print there to check |
| 01:59.26 | Shirik | yeah, do that |
| 01:59.28 | NM|Xinhuan | you better do |
| 01:59.43 | NM|Xinhuan | because GetItemInfo will return all nils if the item doesn't exist in your local cache |
| 01:59.48 | Shirik | mhm |
| 01:59.58 | ccKep | nah, it exists |
| 02:00.09 | Shirik | print it out anyway, just to make sure :) |
| 02:00.10 | ccKep | because I have the name in another var (valid and showing in a CreateFontString'ed text) |
| 02:00.16 | ccKep | doing it rightn ow |
| 02:00.19 | ccKep | sec. |
| 02:00.22 | NM|Xinhuan | you don't need the :Show() |
| 02:00.26 | NM|Xinhuan | remove it |
| 02:00.45 | NM|Xinhuan | setting :Owner and :SetHyperlink is enough |
| 02:00.56 | ccKep | the link is valid |
| 02:01.17 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r45742 10Baggins/Baggins-Filtering.lua: Baggins: Fix FuBar plugin not behaving correctly |
| 02:01.21 | NM|Xinhuan | you need the setowner() |
| 02:01.34 | NM|Xinhuan | all tooltips must have an owner or it can't be used |
| 02:01.37 | ccKep | no tooltip appearing now |
| 02:01.45 | ccKep | yay |
| 02:01.46 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 02:01.46 | ccKep | misread |
| 02:01.47 | ccKep | xD |
| 02:01.53 | Shirik | don't show |
| 02:02.04 | Shirik | Calling show will remove the hyperlink |
| 02:02.08 | Shirik | ered that |
| 02:02.10 | Shirik | er |
| 02:02.11 | NM|Xinhuan | the Show() will in fact, call the gametooltip's :OnShow event |
| 02:02.13 | Shirik | I just remembered that |
| 02:02.20 | ccKep | aye |
| 02:02.23 | NM|Xinhuan | which usually messes with the hyperlink |
| 02:02.47 | NM|Xinhuan | just remember :SetOwner() :SetHyperlink() is enough |
| 02:03.34 | ccKep | hmm, still empty... is there something like :IsVisible ? |
| 02:03.34 | Shirik | I hate GameTooltip's implementation, btw |
| 02:03.55 | NM|Xinhuan | maybe you can tell us more, what kind of gametooltip are you using? |
| 02:04.03 | ccKep | I'm :SetOwner'ing and :SetHyperlink'ing in an OnUpdate method of a frame |
| 02:04.28 | NM|Xinhuan | is that necessary? |
| 02:04.28 | Shirik | oof |
| 02:04.30 | Shirik | why? |
| 02:04.47 | ccKep | eh, OnEnter I mean |
| 02:05.49 | ccKep | http://ace.pastey.net/71813 |
| 02:06.07 | ccKep | highlighted the tooltip lines |
| 02:06.46 | ccKep | http://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/cRaidTracker/SS/4.jpg |
| 02:06.48 | ccKep | thats the outcome |
| 02:06.54 | ccKep | just the tooltip when hovering the line doesn't work -.- |
| 02:08.06 | NM|Xinhuan | hmm |
| 02:08.10 | Shirik | frame.link is nil? |
| 02:08.13 | ccKep | no |
| 02:08.20 | ccKep | I've tested with the Debug: in front of it |
| 02:08.26 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:08.28 | NM|Xinhuan | i believe you cannot use ANCHOR_CURSOR |
| 02:08.32 | Shirik | I don't see where you set it so >< |
| 02:08.38 | ccKep | its marked |
| 02:08.38 | NM|Xinhuan | you have to use something else, like ANCHOR_RIGHT |
| 02:08.42 | ccKep | :SetItem |
| 02:08.44 | ccKep | lien 44 |
| 02:08.49 | NM|Xinhuan | but not sure |
| 02:09.06 | Shirik | why can't you use ANCHOR_CURSOR? |
| 02:09.15 | NM|Xinhuan | i dunno, its just a guess lol! |
| 02:09.16 | ccKep | I'll try another thing first |
| 02:09.31 | ccKep | don't know why but OnEnter is called quite often |
| 02:09.48 | Shirik | well |
| 02:09.53 | Shirik | do you have frames on top? |
| 02:09.54 | ccKep | not just on entering the frame, more like every frame update when the mouse hovers the frame |
| 02:10.02 | ccKep | no |
| 02:10.35 | ccKep | my guess is gametooltip doesn't support that many calls |
| 02:10.56 | NM|Xinhuan | probably because your mouse is on the GameTooltip, so it counts as a OnLeave |
| 02:10.57 | Nargiddley | ccKep, does it still get called every frame if you dont show the tooltip ? |
| 02:10.58 | ccKep | I'll add a temp variable that get's set to true when OnEnter and false OnLeave, so :SetHyperlink is only called once |
| 02:11.00 | Shirik | local frame = CreateFrame("frame", nil, UIParent) |
| 02:11.02 | Shirik | is that right? |
| 02:11.08 | Shirik | oh wait that's right |
| 02:11.10 | Shirik | I'm being stupid |
| 02:11.10 | NM|Xinhuan | get what i mean? |
| 02:11.17 | ccKep | the tooltip is on the buttom |
| 02:11.24 | ccKep | I see the outline + background, its just empty |
| 02:11.41 | ccKep | sec. I'll just add a temporary variable to make sure :Sethyperlink is only called once the cursor enters the line |
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| 02:13.51 | xyu | did you see those? |
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| 02:13.55 | Amadeo | did the sound just get messed? |
| 02:14.04 | xyu | no |
| 02:14.14 | Amadeo | hm |
| 02:14.31 | Amadeo | there |
| 02:15.10 | NM|Xinhuan | so you tried changing the anchor type? ;p |
| 02:15.45 | ccKep | doing it now |
| 02:15.47 | ccKep | */rl* |
| 02:16.17 | ccKep | ... |
| 02:16.39 | NM|Xinhuan | /snickers |
| 02:18.00 | NM|Xinhuan | i was fairly certain when you set anchor to Cursor, it makes the tooltip appear, which causes your mouse to be over it - which calls the "OnLeave" on your frame, whichhides, it - which causes a loop for OnEnter to occur again, something like that |
| 02:18.45 | ccKep | it was shown empty on a complete different location on the screen, that's why I didn't think so.. supid me I guess |
| 02:19.17 | NM|Xinhuan | well OnEnter and leave should only be called exactly once - and not once per frame update as you said |
| 02:19.20 | ccKep | maybe because GameTooltip:OnLeave returns it to the last owner or something |
| 02:19.20 | Gnarfoz | anyone watching blizzcon stream? |
| 02:19.28 | Amadeo | yep |
| 02:19.45 | NM|Xinhuan | nope, using :Hide() on a gametooltip object removes its owner |
| 02:19.52 | Gnarfoz | the moderator on the right, is he from giga? |
| 02:19.57 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. german) |
| 02:19.59 | NM|Xinhuan | hence to use it again, you must always :setowner() |
| 02:20.12 | Amadeo | I believe so |
| 02:20.17 | Gnarfoz | they could've picked someone with better english skills -.- |
| 02:20.17 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz, the japanese looking guy is from germany |
| 02:20.20 | Sparhawke | whast the link to the stream |
| 02:20.21 | Amadeo | Leeroy only does the WoW stuff |
| 02:20.24 | NM|Xinhuan | setowner() has a implicit :show() inside it |
| 02:20.25 | Gnarfoz | ~livestream |
| 02:20.26 | purl | rumour has it, livestream is http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the player(if octoshape is running) |
| 02:20.58 | Health | octoshape seems to be some sort of torrent like client? |
| 02:21.09 | Amadeo | Yes, it's peer to peer |
| 02:21.14 | Gnarfoz | p2p video streaming thingy |
| 02:21.17 | Health | Yeah |
| 02:21.24 | Health | Pretty smaert |
| 02:21.35 | Amadeo | I won't use it again after BlizzCon is over :P |
| 02:21.41 | Health | Setting up a local http server and serves the stream |
| 02:21.44 | Dustwhisper| | i use it for WEG etc aswell |
| 02:21.44 | Health | Same ;p |
| 02:21.45 | Dustwhisper| | or similar events |
| 02:21.52 | Dustwhisper| | a lot of esport events use it now |
| 02:22.39 | Amadeo | speaking of, my stream died |
| 02:22.43 | NM|Xinhuan | easier to just wait for websites to summarise the event |
| 02:22.44 | NM|Xinhuan | ;p |
| 02:23.16 | Keias | Thats what I'm doing |
| 02:23.20 | ccKep | yay @ http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DewDrop-2.0 not available but http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DewDrop saying "DewDrop-2.0 (redirected from DewDrop)" -.- |
| 02:23.34 | Amadeo | it's more fun to watch the arena matches :) |
| 02:24.08 | NM|Xinhuan | i've concluded that using the Blizzard dropdownmenus is easier ;p |
| 02:24.19 | Amadeo | Did anyone elses stream die? |
| 02:24.23 | vithos | yes |
| 02:24.27 | Amadeo | heh |
| 02:24.32 | Amadeo | the site says service unavailable also |
| 02:24.52 | vithos | oh well, i wasn't enjoying watching that anyway. |
| 02:25.16 | Amadeo | there it goes |
| 02:25.31 | NM|Xinhuan | "Blizzard wants to re-introduce Naxxramas in Northrend as a molten core level dungeon so more players can experience one of the best raid dungeons created." |
| 02:25.38 | NM|Xinhuan | what does that mean? |
| 02:25.53 | kenlyric | NM|Xinhuan: that's not what they said at all. |
| 02:25.58 | Health | Maybe that Naxxramas will be created as a molten core level dungeon so more players can experience it? |
| 02:26.03 | vithos | who said that? |
| 02:26.11 | NM|Xinhuan | i copied that from another irc |
| 02:26.13 | kenlyric | he was a lot more vague than that. |
| 02:26.24 | NM|Xinhuan | maybe its just a badly phrased "entry level dungeon" |
| 02:26.28 | clad|away | no |
| 02:26.31 | NM|Xinhuan | as opposed to "MC lvl dungeon" |
| 02:26.40 | clad|away | they said that Naxx is great content, and fits directly into the northrend content |
| 02:26.52 | kenlyric | Will casual raiders or non-raiders experience end-game content? A: they are playing with taking old content (like Naxx) and making it accesible for lower characters. |
| 02:27.00 | kenlyric | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-blizzcons-dungeons-and-raids-panel/ |
| 02:27.06 | clad|away | it makes sense to re-tune the dungeon for 25 man, at the MC difficulty level for a raid guild, and make people do it |
| 02:27.18 | ccKep | raising level to 75, turn it into a 5man dungeon (4 wings + 10 man raid), lower hitpoints & damageoutput of mobs ? ^.^ |
| 02:27.23 | Amadeo | clad|away: Where are you now? At the arena championships? |
| 02:27.33 | clad|away | no, i'm at where i'm staying |
| 02:27.36 | Amadeo | aww |
| 02:27.43 | NM|Xinhuan | i don't see how you can change 4H into a 10-man encounter lol! |
| 02:27.45 | Amadeo | I was gonna have you streak across stage |
| 02:28.04 | ccKep | tell two of them they have to leave xD |
| 02:28.05 | theoddone33 | oh man |
| 02:28.07 | clad|away | NM|Xinhuan: i didn't say 10 man |
| 02:28.15 | theoddone33 | I <3 the guy that pasted that direct live straem link |
| 02:28.19 | clad|away | 25 man |
| 02:28.40 | Amadeo | at 80, it might be even easier |
| 02:28.41 | clad|away | and tuning the difficulty to make it similar to when guilds started going to MC |
| 02:28.43 | knaledge | IT's going to be dropped to 25 man and made a part of the northrend DK attune |
| 02:28.46 | NM|Xinhuan | not sure i like the idea of blizzard reusing old content as new content |
| 02:28.52 | clad|away | why? |
| 02:28.55 | Amadeo | I think it's good |
| 02:28.58 | clad|away | it was horribly timed |
| 02:29.00 | knaledge | it's going to simply make it more approachable |
| 02:29.00 | Amadeo | right now it just goes unused at all |
| 02:29.09 | knaledge | and they mine as well add a heroic mode to it |
| 02:29.11 | clad|away | and its not like they make a pattern of it |
| 02:29.15 | *** join/#wowace Dwarik (n=Dwarik@e49087.upc-e.chello.nl) |
| 02:29.24 | clad|away | its stupid to spend so much time on amazing lore driven content |
| 02:29.29 | NM|Xinhuan | because its old - already done it |
| 02:29.32 | clad|away | and then releasing an expansion, so no one gets to do it |
| 02:29.33 | kenlyric | they said they don't like the idea of visiting old content either. |
| 02:29.33 | clad|away | YOU have |
| 02:29.37 | clad|away | grats |
| 02:29.40 | clad|away | welcome to the rest of us :P |
| 02:29.42 | kenlyric | but naxx is a special exception. |
| 02:29.46 | Amadeo | I haven't done any of them :P |
| 02:29.51 | knaledge | I burnt out on Naxx |
| 02:29.53 | clad|away | naxx was horribly timed. |
| 02:29.54 | knaledge | I love the place |
| 02:29.56 | knaledge | but yeah |
| 02:30.00 | knaledge | too close to expansion |
| 02:30.03 | clad|away | it shoudl not have come out so close to expansion |
| 02:30.05 | NM|Xinhuan | naxx wasn't horribly timed - the expansion was. |
| 02:30.08 | clad|away | i've experienced all other content but that |
| 02:30.09 | kenlyric | because it was released so late in original lifecycle and it ties so much with Lich King |
| 02:30.11 | knaledge | it was released because the community was "UGH'ing" about xpac release daye |
| 02:30.21 | knaledge | so they released Naxx soon |
| 02:30.21 | Amadeo | What's the news on Hyjal? |
| 02:30.31 | clad|away | what do you mean? |
| 02:30.36 | theoddone33 | I need to do naxx/aq40 for librams |
| 02:30.42 | knaledge | no you don't |
| 02:30.42 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 02:30.43 | theoddone33 | that will suck finding a group for |
| 02:30.44 | knaledge | not aq40 anyhow |
| 02:30.50 | knaledge | you can buy those now |
| 02:30.51 | Amadeo | are they going to open that whole area? |
| 02:30.56 | knaledge | and learn them in 2.2 |
| 02:30.58 | theoddone33 | you can buy them? |
| 02:30.58 | Amadeo | or did they already, and I missed it? |
| 02:30.59 | clad|away | Amadeo: not at this time, no |
| 02:31.00 | theoddone33 | oh, nice |
| 02:31.03 | Amadeo | damn :( |
| 02:31.06 | theoddone33 | libram as in paladin relic |
| 02:31.11 | NM|Xinhuan | it'll probably be some 3rd or 4th expansion with emerald dream |
| 02:31.12 | clad|away | Old Hyjal is the closest you have |
| 02:31.26 | Amadeo | I haven't done any of that yet :( |
| 02:31.27 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 02:31.28 | knaledge | em,erald dream almost has to be next |
| 02:31.28 | knaledge | t |
| 02:31.32 | knaledge | they are running out of content |
| 02:31.38 | kenlyric | I imagine the instance version of hyjal is now the same as what you'd find if you break into hyjal now. |
| 02:31.42 | knaledge | (considering the scope of this next xpac) |
| 02:32.12 | Amadeo | kenlyric: It's fun to break in :) |
| 02:32.13 | kenlyric | it's like ZG... the exact same content, with mobs and events added in. |
| 02:32.21 | kenlyric | Amadeo: has anyone broken in after the xpac? |
| 02:32.26 | kenlyric | well, after 2.1 |
| 02:32.42 | knaledge | it's sort of the same |
| 02:32.46 | theoddone33 | kenlyric: yes |
| 02:32.51 | knaledge | except a lot of textures are missing and the tree clips |
| 02:32.51 | theoddone33 | some friends of mine did |
| 02:32.56 | knaledge | worldofraids.com |
| 02:33.00 | knaledge | check the forums there |
| 02:33.14 | theoddone33 | I tried to follow them but I couldn't make the tough jumps and gave up |
| 02:33.25 | knaledge | also, my guild got into zul'aman last night |
| 02:33.32 | knaledge | there's an elite there |
| 02:33.35 | kenlyric | theoddone33: is there a skull in the tree? |
| 02:33.35 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Not sure, I forget when I did it |
| 02:33.38 | theoddone33 | where is zul'aman? |
| 02:33.41 | knaledge | and your loc is "<uNKNOWN>?" |
| 02:33.47 | knaledge | ghostlands |
| 02:33.49 | theoddone33 | kenlyric: there was last time I was there, but that was pre-2.1 |
| 02:33.58 | clad|away | Knaledge: They are FAR from running out of content |
| 02:34.07 | knaledge | @clad: based on what they touched on in northrend |
| 02:34.09 | clad|away | I just stepped out of the Lore and Quests panel, and they have more than you can possibly imagine. |
| 02:34.12 | theoddone33 | did the elite drop anything? |
| 02:34.13 | knaledge | they have not much UnUSED content left |
| 02:34.24 | clad|away | nah, barely scrapes the surface |
| 02:34.30 | knaledge | they have enough for maybe two more |
| 02:34.37 | kenlyric | they are capable of making up new content :) |
| 02:34.42 | clad|away | indeed |
| 02:34.43 | knaledge | emerald dream and the kirin tor stuff |
| 02:34.48 | knaledge | no I agree |
| 02:34.49 | theoddone33 | I can't wait to level all my toons to 120 |
| 02:34.54 | theoddone33 | ... |
| 02:34.55 | knaledge | I just am saying lore wise, they aren't leaving much else out |
| 02:35.01 | Amadeo | lol |
| 02:35.17 | NM|Xinhuan | i still think naxx won't be naxx if they retune the difficulty to 25-mans entry lvl |
| 02:35.21 | knaledge | I do |
| 02:35.25 | NM|Xinhuan | it just won't be the same |
| 02:35.28 | knaledge | heroic = 25 man but 40man difficulty |
| 02:35.34 | knaledge | normal = tuned downa bit |
| 02:35.36 | knaledge | easy |
| 02:35.37 | kenlyric | well, you won't go then. |
| 02:35.42 | knaledge | I will |
| 02:35.48 | knaledge | not sure about you but I did most of Naxx at 40 |
| 02:35.53 | knaledge | and we cleared spider regualrly with 255 |
| 02:35.56 | knaledge | *20-25 |
| 02:36.09 | kenlyric | I just go and kill the cat. |
| 02:36.18 | NM|Xinhuan | haha |
| 02:36.27 | kenlyric | it's better than 90% of the dungeons just for the music. |
| 02:36.35 | knaledge | and the scripted events |
| 02:36.38 | Dustwhisper| | I just wanna get into hyjal/Bt |
| 02:36.38 | knaledge | and the AI is pretty nice |
| 02:36.39 | Dustwhisper| | and see that |
| 02:36.41 | Dustwhisper| | before the exp |
| 02:36.45 | kenlyric | well, the cat doesn't do much for scripted events. |
| 02:36.50 | knaledge | actually |
| 02:36.52 | Amadeo | I turn my music off |
| 02:36.54 | Dustwhisper| | has there been any indication or even plausible speculation as to when the expansion can be expect? |
| 02:37.00 | knaledge | it increases mob spawn rate |
| 02:37.02 | Dustwhisper| | blizzard has never managed to hit the Christmas-season |
| 02:37.05 | clad|away | Dustwhisper|: After 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4 |
| 02:37.05 | Dustwhisper| | with any of their games |
| 02:37.11 | kenlyric | Dustwhisper|: when vivendi wants it to be released. |
| 02:37.14 | knaledge | killing the cat has been shown t increase mob spawn rate and attack damage in DK wing |
| 02:37.17 | knaledge | *of the mobs |
| 02:37.31 | knaledge | worldofraids had a good write up about that |
| 02:37.34 | Amadeo | What's the instance that's in um...damn, that pass between Duskwood or whatever and Swamp of Sorrows? |
| 02:37.35 | kenlyric | knaledge: it makes onyxia deep breath more? |
| 02:37.44 | knaledge | that is a myth |
| 02:37.50 | clad|away | 2.2 is on the PTR but the server tech isn't there to have it released.. 2.3 hasn't had anything said about it at all and all we know about 2.4 is the UI changes that we've heard about |
| 02:37.52 | knaledge | but killing biggles actually does change the dungeon |
| 02:38.10 | knaledge | Amadeo: Karazhan? |
| 02:38.13 | theoddone33 | is the non-instance in tanaris going to be in the other xpac? |
| 02:38.28 | Amadeo | knaledge: Is that Karazhan? I didn't even know that was it |
| 02:38.28 | Amadeo | haha |
| 02:38.30 | knaledge | Grim Batol is supposedly planned for this expansion |
| 02:38.40 | knaledge | Uldum will be cool |
| 02:38.44 | clad|away | Knaledge: Where are you hearing this? |
| 02:38.45 | Dustwhisper| | the server tech isnt there? |
| 02:38.46 | knaledge | Id like that |
| 02:38.46 | theoddone33 | gram batol, nice |
| 02:38.51 | clad|away | Dustwhisper|: No, its not. |
| 02:38.56 | kenlyric | another instance in tanaris? fun. |
| 02:38.57 | Dustwhisper| | elaborate please |
| 02:38.58 | knaledge | mmochampion, from the floor, they have a live blog |
| 02:39.08 | knaledge | the raid panel touched on grim batol being possible in the expac |
| 02:39.09 | kenlyric | wtb fixed portal from dalaran to tanaris :) |
| 02:39.15 | clad|away | Dustwhisper|: The VOIP stuff isn't on the servers right now, that's all |
| 02:39.21 | Dustwhisper| | ah |
| 02:39.31 | clad|away | Knaledge: It said possible.. |
| 02:39.34 | Amadeo | I think voip will be on PTR soon though |
| 02:39.38 | theoddone33 | built in VOIP would be nice |
| 02:39.43 | theoddone33 | really nice |
| 02:39.44 | Amadeo | it's half-in now |
| 02:39.50 | clad|away | they also made it very clear that they never make everythign they plan into the expansion |
| 02:39.52 | theoddone33 | then mac users can stop worrying about vent |
| 02:40.04 | clad|away | and I disagree about Uldum, I don't think it will make it in this one. |
| 02:40.09 | Dustwhisper| | i wonder if theyll make christmas for once though |
| 02:40.15 | Dustwhisper| | they should atleast get it out before warhammer |
| 02:40.16 | clad|away | no |
| 02:40.22 | clad|away | they won't make christmas, if i was a betting man |
| 02:40.23 | kenlyric | it's not like they can't add new instance portals to old content. They did it with aq and naxx. |
| 02:40.31 | Mecdemort | they did say they where going to add another 5 man and 25 man, so im thinking uldam and grim batal |
| 02:40.39 | Zicon | They might make christmas -next- year. :] |
| 02:40.42 | Amadeo | They should release it at the same time as Warhammer, imo |
| 02:40.43 | clad|away | they said they were adding another 25 man |
| 02:40.43 | theoddone33 | we're shipping a game for christmas and we're in crunch now |
| 02:40.44 | clad|away | the sunwell |
| 02:40.48 | clad|away | they said they'd like to get another 5 man in |
| 02:40.50 | clad|away | no promises. |
| 02:40.52 | knaledge | I dont think uldum will make it in either |
| 02:41.00 | knaledge | but I am looking forward to it |
| 02:41.12 | clad|away | they don't need it |
| 02:41.15 | clad|away | with Ulduar |
| 02:41.32 | knaledge | uldum is pretty closely tied to sargeras though |
| 02:41.36 | theoddone33 | hmmmm this gives me an idea for the suggestionf orums |
| 02:41.37 | clad|away | doesn't make sense to put both in, unless its the 5 man they lead into the expansion with |
| 02:41.49 | knaledge | the only other alternative is shifting gears and going to the crypt in the maelstrom |
| 02:42.04 | clad|away | you have no imagination :P |
| 02:42.10 | knaledge | I mean at some point soon, sargeras has to make it in |
| 02:42.11 | clad|away | there are so many more choices than that |
| 02:42.14 | knaledge | maybe not directly |
| 02:42.23 | knaledge | but thats the only major lore they have yet to focus on |
| 02:42.27 | clad|away | he will, this expansion has a huge component about the titans and the creation |
| 02:42.28 | knaledge | MAJOR |
| 02:42.29 | clad|away | no, its not. |
| 02:42.32 | clad|away | you're on crack dude =) |
| 02:42.36 | clad|away | have you read the books? |
| 02:42.40 | knaledge | ok name something more major than sargeras |
| 02:42.41 | knaledge | yes |
| 02:42.48 | clad|away | there is so much warcraft canon that is completely untouched |
| 02:42.51 | knaledge | all of them, including the 4th and the unreleased ones via ebook |
| 02:43.15 | clad|away | is Sargeras a clear point they can hit, absolutely |
| 02:43.38 | clad|away | but saying its the only major plot to be unexplored is silly |
| 02:43.40 | clad|away | SILLY I SAY |
| 02:43.58 | Gnarfoz | SILLAY? |
| 02:44.07 | clad|away | YA! |
| 02:44.25 | break19 | clad says its silly!! it MUST BE! |
| 02:44.50 | break19 | btw, clad, glad to see you hangin around here again :) |
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| 02:45.14 | clad|away | lolz who trusts clad |
| 02:45.21 | break19 | <- trusts clad :p |
| 02:45.36 | Health | good music on the giga stream |
| 02:45.41 | knaledge | damnit stop enjoying blizzcon and get back to work on LH! |
| 02:45.45 | knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.52 | theoddone33 | wow how long does it take them to setup between these matches |
| 02:45.57 | knaledge | forever |
| 02:46.01 | theoddone33 | :( |
| 02:46.05 | knaledge | this is definitely a learning curve for them |
| 02:46.06 | clad|away | what do you want from LH |
| 02:46.06 | Health | macros, key bindins.. |
| 02:46.09 | knaledge | because I never liked giga |
| 02:46.21 | knaledge | @clad: just the stuff you posted about on the site |
| 02:46.26 | knaledge | I'm loking forward to it |
| 02:46.32 | knaledge | no rush just excited |
| 02:46.55 | clad|away | what stuff i posted :P |
| 02:46.58 | clad|away | remind me so i dont forget |
| 02:47.09 | knaledge | saving waypoints, sharing waypoints, quest searching, etc. |
| 02:47.13 | theoddone33 | ooh I don't have any sound for some reason |
| 02:47.16 | clad|away | thats tomtom |
| 02:47.17 | clad|away | now LH =) |
| 02:47.18 | clad|away | not |
| 02:47.25 | knaledge | quest searching? |
| 02:47.28 | clad|away | well two were :P |
| 02:47.31 | clad|away | one was lh |
| 02:47.34 | knaledge | either way |
| 02:47.37 | knaledge | :p |
| 02:47.49 | knaledge | my brother and I love them |
| 02:47.52 | break19 | quit hassling clad! I'll cut you! |
| 02:47.54 | knaledge | he HATES addons |
| 02:47.57 | break19 | lol |
| 02:48.01 | knaledge | but loves LH and TT |
| 02:48.21 | knaledge | he's been recommending it to people left and right |
| 02:48.30 | knaledge | so I think these new features will bring it to the next level |
| 02:48.37 | knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.12 | clad|away | dinner, bbl |
| 02:49.13 | break19 | btw, is there a regular update day on the quest comments? |
| 02:49.23 | clad|away | tuesday |
| 02:49.27 | clad|away | but i have it done this week |
| 02:49.29 | clad|away | i was on vacation |
| 02:49.32 | clad|away | just have to zip and post |
| 02:49.34 | clad|away | bye, bbl |
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| 02:51.24 | Health | CRUSH THEN NASH! |
| 02:51.26 | knaledge | ken dont you do MacAceUpdater? |
| 02:51.31 | Amadeo | lets see the game then? |
| 02:51.32 | Amadeo | heh |
| 02:52.01 | NM|Xinhuan | i think CIA-22 died :( |
| 02:52.42 | kenlyric | ken? me? |
| 02:52.46 | kenlyric | if so, no |
| 02:52.56 | Bruners | ive heard roumers about auctioneer getting banned by blizzard ? |
| 02:53.03 | knaledge | oh ok |
| 02:53.10 | knaledge | who maintains MacAceUpdater? |
| 02:53.46 | knaledge | apparently because "Unpack Addons" is not an option for Mac users... |
| 02:53.57 | knaledge | it is screwing up some LoD addons like AtlasLoot |
| 02:54.29 | knaledge | rather, because "Unpack Addons" can't be turned off, it is not properly installing AtlasLoot now? I dont know |
| 02:54.36 | knaledge | http://www.daviesh.net/atlasloot_enhanced/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1396&p=3965#p3965 |
| 02:55.55 | Dustwhisper| | oh for fucks sake |
| 02:56.06 | Dustwhisper| | had a crash earlier, forgot i had backed up some files, opened my addon folder in Textpad |
| 02:56.13 | Dustwhisper| | seems ive been editing my backed up main lua file |
| 02:56.14 | Dustwhisper| | gege |
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| 02:57.53 | knaledge | Nintendo Wii has Mii's |
| 02:57.56 | knaledge | Wii Mii |
| 02:58.01 | knaledge | AOL has WeeMee's |
| 02:58.14 | knaledge | Wii Mii /= Wee Mee ? |
| 02:58.21 | knaledge | for shame AOL |
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| 03:02.01 | Dustwhisper| | WOW 5v5 doesnt really open for invidual greatness like an FPS |
| 03:02.04 | Dustwhisper| | where 1 player can take out 3 |
| 03:02.06 | Dustwhisper| | it's sadface |
| 03:02.16 | Amadeo | Yeah, it's disappointing in that aspect |
| 03:02.22 | NM|Xinhuan | ppl would cry nerf ;p |
| 03:02.22 | Amadeo | The game is almost over once one person dies |
| 03:02.32 | Dustwhisper| | yea |
| 03:02.34 | Dustwhisper| | totally crap |
| 03:02.41 | Dustwhisper| | coming from competetive FPS i kinda miss that a lot |
| 03:02.45 | Dustwhisper| | i'm hoping conan will remedy that |
| 03:02.48 | Amadeo | I thought the most exciting game today was the StarCraft game between the Koreans |
| 03:02.51 | NM|Xinhuan | well FPS is a reflexes based game |
| 03:02.53 | NM|Xinhuan | wow isn't |
| 03:03.00 | Dustwhisper| | wish it was |
| 03:03.06 | Dustwhisper| | talking about conceptual MMORPG though |
| 03:03.08 | Dustwhisper| | what would be cool |
| 03:03.15 | Dustwhisper| | was something to the extent of the sims/second life |
| 03:03.18 | Dustwhisper| | where you can actually be an assassin |
| 03:03.23 | Dustwhisper| | and go around murdering other peoples chars |
| 03:03.23 | theoddone33 | I kind of hope they turn it around and take a game or two from MoB |
| 03:03.25 | Dustwhisper| | and plundering them |
| 03:03.26 | Dustwhisper| | being a hitman etc |
| 03:03.31 | Dustwhisper| | that would be awesome |
| 03:03.42 | Amadeo | It's strange how they just keep everyone out in the open, so everyone hears what's going on from everyone...I think they should enclose each team in boxes just like they do for RTS competitions |
| 03:03.52 | Dustwhisper| | yea they should |
| 03:04.07 | theoddone33 | someone was saying they can barely hear each other even though they're two feet away |
| 03:04.21 | Dustwhisper| | it is usually like that |
| 03:04.27 | Dustwhisper| | if you play at CS tournaments etc |
| 03:04.27 | Amadeo | I believe it, since it gets hectic, but even a couple words slip through can change the battle |
| 03:04.31 | Dustwhisper| | it's usually to much noise to hear |
| 03:04.46 | Amadeo | like suddenly you hear Leeroy say, "Tenacity is going down!" or whatever |
| 03:04.47 | theoddone33 | you could be clever and feed misinformation to the other team |
| 03:04.48 | Amadeo | and they catch that |
| 03:05.35 | theoddone33 | they should setup a buff so that when your team goes down to 4 people everyone gets a damage bonus |
| 03:05.40 | theoddone33 | I have the best ideas! |
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| 03:06.07 | theoddone33 | more people would bring rogues to 5v5! |
| 03:06.34 | Amadeo | and the buff increases until only one person is left, haha |
| 03:06.40 | Amadeo | so the Rogue can kill everyone in 1v5 |
| 03:06.49 | theoddone33 | no no the rogue would die first |
| 03:06.51 | Dustwhisper| | no need rogues better in arenas |
| 03:06.52 | Dustwhisper| | no need |
| 03:07.02 | theoddone33 | depends what arena |
| 03:07.12 | theoddone33 | they're pretty bad in 5v5 I hear |
| 03:07.14 | Dustwhisper| | rogue in our guild pulls up any player to 1900 rating by himself |
| 03:07.16 | Dustwhisper| | winning 1v2 |
| 03:07.28 | theoddone33 | yeah they're ok in 2's and 3's |
| 03:08.02 | Dustwhisper| | a bit easier to fix your addon when you code on the right file >_< |
| 03:08.12 | NM|Xinhuan | rogues are just terrible in 5s |
| 03:08.28 | Dustwhisper| | firemages are shit in any arena |
| 03:08.47 | theoddone33 | this is embarassing |
| 03:08.56 | theoddone33 | I don't think anyone in mob ever got below 80% in either of those 3 games |
| 03:10.21 | Amadeo | Yeah |
| 03:10.46 | Amadeo | there's one for all the Hunters saying they're worthless in Arenas |
| 03:11.14 | theoddone33 | btw I know everything about arenas because my 2v2 is at 1596 |
| 03:11.55 | Thrae | Really, worthless == we're at a skill disadvantage == me, or me teammates, overall suck worse then our opponents |
| 03:12.22 | Amadeo | Thrae: I don't really think the Hunter is making or breaking the group, I just think they play well together :) |
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| 03:12.52 | Amadeo | you notice they CC very well |
| 03:12.59 | Thrae | "What's most effective" should never be a balancing factor unless it provides a truly overwhelming advantage, and I seriously doubt there's anything like that in any crucial part of WoW |
| 03:13.02 | Dustwhisper| | hunter CC is the best in game |
| 03:13.10 | Dustwhisper| | frost-trap + concshot etc |
| 03:13.16 | Dustwhisper| | and all their diff stings and crap to drain mana and what not |
| 03:14.03 | Amadeo | Thrae: I think they're trying to move away from that, which is why they started putting abilities such as tanking to more classes than just Warriors, etc |
| 03:14.08 | theoddone33 | I hope for TFO vs huks |
| 03:14.29 | theoddone33 | I think huks beat them in the regionals but everyone is saying TFO will win |
| 03:14.34 | theoddone33 | whtvr |
| 03:14.36 | Thrae | Amadeo: In PvP, everyone expects to play a role in damage, but Arena has re-defined how PvP works in WoW. It's more raid-style now, where every class is more pigeon-holed, and Hunters find themselves as more of a support class |
| 03:15.08 | Amadeo | I'm not sure if they expect it, they just WANT to play that role :) |
| 03:15.21 | Amadeo | It's hard for people to find healing fun |
| 03:15.39 | Thrae | Amadeo: Well Druids could always tank just as well as Warriors, there just times when Druid tanking was nerfed more then Warriors, and then Warriors were nerfed to the point of Druids, and now there are instances tailored for Druids and even Paladin tanks |
| 03:17.27 | BankZ | Is there an ace2 mod that hides tooltips in combat? |
| 03:18.34 | Amadeo | Thrae: Druids could tank as well in the easier instances, but they didn't have the right gear in the game for much more..at least back when WoW started |
| 03:18.59 | theoddone33 | I suspect that rogues are getting shafted on mitigation so that druids don't become OP |
| 03:19.02 | Thrae | BankZ: Should be easy enough to add to TinyTip, post a feature request at http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow |
| 03:20.08 | Thrae | Amadeo: Well, it was a catch-22 situation -- the Druids usually needed gear from an instance higher then the one they want to tank for, while Warriors didn't. But that wasn't a flaw of the class, that was a flaw of available items. |
| 03:20.31 | Amadeo | Are you talking about when Hurricane was a 31 point talent? :) |
| 03:21.03 | Thrae | Amadeo: No, there were Druids that tanked AQ40, BWL, etc., but they had excellent gear and were damned skilled |
| 03:21.16 | Thrae | Amadeo: Pre-TBC |
| 03:21.31 | Amadeo | I remember when I did the Warlock mount quest for a friend (I was a Priest), we had a Druid tank it..people on my server were pretty impressed |
| 03:21.46 | Amadeo | far pre-TBC, hehe |
| 03:21.58 | xyu | hunter tank ftw |
| 03:22.17 | theoddone33 | we leveled up in a group without a warrior |
| 03:22.26 | Dustwhisper| | i never leveled in a group |
| 03:22.27 | theoddone33 | tried to tank a couple instances with our shaman |
| 03:22.29 | theoddone33 | didn't work so well |
| 03:22.34 | Thrae | Amadeo: Pre-1.8, Feral Druids didn't really work the same way as Rogues or Warriors, so no one bothered to learn them effectively. They were still effective, it just required a totally different skillset. |
| 03:22.36 | Dustwhisper| | well i did some WC/shadowfang keep |
| 03:22.38 | Dustwhisper| | in the beginning |
| 03:22.44 | Dustwhisper| | especially on my first 3 mages |
| 03:23.01 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, I remember early PvP before trinkets and all that...Druids were a LOT harder to play, but still very effective |
| 03:23.06 | theoddone33 | when we were all level 28 one guy switched to druid |
| 03:23.11 | theoddone33 | but he couldn't tank for us until he caught up |
| 03:23.18 | theoddone33 | which was around 55, heh |
| 03:23.48 | Thrae | Amadeo: Hybrid Druids were especially hard to win against PvP 1v1, less so now |
| 03:24.08 | Thrae | Amadeo: Trinkets really only fixed the stunlock problem for Druids |
| 03:24.17 | Amadeo | Druids on PTR are pretty crazy, the Boomkins especially |
| 03:24.33 | theoddone33 | oh man... did an arena against druid priest earlier... as a paladin with pretty crap gear I could have tanked that druid in cat for form 20 minutes if I had mana |
| 03:24.38 | theoddone33 | druid/priest |
| 03:25.05 | Cryect | use JoW |
| 03:25.07 | Thrae | theoddone33: That Druid was crappy |
| 03:25.11 | Cryect | and BoW! |
| 03:25.14 | theoddone33 | yeah the team was crappy |
| 03:25.21 | Amadeo | probably bad gear also |
| 03:25.32 | theoddone33 | go go 1500s bracket |
| 03:25.33 | Cryect | thats all pallys had to do pretbC :-p |
| 03:25.34 | Thrae | Druids have even more effective DoTs then Rogues do, against Paladins anyway |
| 03:25.52 | Cryect | rip with mangle is so nice plus pounce :) |
| 03:26.02 | theoddone33 | I'm surprised how many people I can tank just by healing |
| 03:26.13 | Thrae | Cryect: It's all about the Maim not breaking on Cat DoTs |
| 03:26.20 | Cryect | druids don't have good interrupt |
| 03:26.26 | theoddone33 | just bash |
| 03:26.31 | Cryect | so if he cna't burst you |
| 03:26.33 | Cryect | no more like maim |
| 03:26.38 | Thrae | theoddone33: You've never been Maim'd? |
| 03:26.54 | theoddone33 | I played a rogue until recently |
| 03:27.07 | theoddone33 | never looked into new druid stuff |
| 03:27.09 | Cryect | problem requires combo points and its not a true interupt |
| 03:27.22 | Thrae | Cryect: Neither is a Stun |
| 03:27.45 | Cryect | kick/pummel/shield bash/counter spell are though |
| 03:27.54 | Thrae | Cryect: And Feral Charge |
| 03:28.31 | Cryect | heh yes |
| 03:28.47 | Amadeo | I don't like how Druids are just immune to Polymorph now |
| 03:28.51 | Thrae | But the thing is, Druids don't -need- the same interupts as other classes, because they can heal |
| 03:28.57 | Cryect | Been immune to polymorph since like 1.5 |
| 03:29.07 | Amadeo | You used to be able to sheep them, and they'd have to shift to get out |
| 03:29.19 | Cryect | yeah like before 1.5 |
| 03:29.24 | Cryect | think it was 1.5 |
| 03:29.46 | Thrae | You throw a Maim on a Paladin, pop a Rejuv + Regrowth, restealth, pounce + mangle + rake |
| 03:29.59 | Thrae | Remember, Maim gives you enough time to restealth in PvP |
| 03:30.44 | Funkeh` | UIPanel @ BlizzCon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2OTFf9SH_E |
| 03:30.56 | Thrae | Of course, this is all advanced moves |
| 03:31.00 | Cryect | maybe it was earlier 1.4 introduced removing polymorphing by shapeshifting |
| 03:31.05 | ccKep | why does "usage" have to be set in an AceOptions table for dewdrop to work with type = 'text' ? (new to this stuff, just curious) |
| 03:31.08 | theoddone33 | hm, I do think I've never been maimed |
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| 03:31.33 | Thrae | theoddone33: There's not a lot of Feral Druids in Arena to start with |
| 03:31.50 | Cryect | Feral druids are the worst spec for arena except for like 2v2 |
| 03:31.59 | theoddone33 | I haven't pvp'd at 70 nearly as much as I'd like |
| 03:32.28 | Thrae | Funkeh`: Caydiem at the podium? That looks like her |
| 03:32.31 | theoddone33 | pissed me off because no one dueled on my server until like 3 months after TBC came out |
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| 03:32.50 | theoddone33 | so no one learned how to counter new abilities |
| 03:32.52 | Hjalte | Wow, that preview of the new combat log looks a lot like simplecombatlog |
| 03:33.14 | Funkeh` | Yes well its about time |
| 03:33.24 | Funkeh` | Combat log parsing is going to be so much easier |
| 03:33.49 | Thrae | Ah, that's not Caydiem |
| 03:33.53 | Dustwhisper| | how is the combat log changing ? |
| 03:34.01 | Dustwhisper| | and is the need for synching in raids being removed? |
| 03:34.20 | Amadeo | Who did Savior play today in StarCraft again? |
| 03:34.23 | Funkeh` | watch the movie |
| 03:34.24 | Amadeo | or whatever his name was |
| 03:34.25 | Funkeh` | and no |
| 03:34.34 | Thrae | Dustwhisper|: EVENT-BASED, syncing will still be required since it obviously won't have infinite range (mainly due to server<->client issues) |
| 03:35.15 | Arrowmaster | range is still quite large though |
| 03:35.30 | Thrae | Hehe, "So simple Gramma can use it" "Grandma too" |
| 03:35.30 | Dustwhisper| | not large enough |
| 03:35.34 | Dustwhisper| | they should just put in autosynching |
| 03:35.44 | Dustwhisper| | just distribute all events to all raidmembers |
| 03:36.16 | Thrae | Dustwhisper|: That will add a lot more impact to the server and clients, so they probably want to tweak their framework some more |
| 03:36.29 | Arrowmaster | im really shocked watching this video, theyre using 'self' |
| 03:37.05 | Neebler | link to video please! |
| 03:37.05 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: If the old Blizz addons work, there's no reason to recode them, that's a fine philosophy ;) Obviously newer addons will use the new conventions |
| 03:37.12 | Thrae | Neebler: scroll up |
| 03:37.18 | Neebler | I just joined the channel |
| 03:37.30 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: the new stuff for voice chat uses 'this' i think |
| 03:37.38 | theoddone33 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2OTFf9SH_E |
| 03:37.54 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Just because its new to us doesn't mean its old code that was floating around |
| 03:38.58 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Think of all the crap that was announced for release, but wasn't in there, yet came later |
| 03:39.23 | Arrowmaster | rofl, 'lets hear it for global variables' |
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| 03:40.28 | Arrowmaster | should rewrite their addon using only a lua file and 1 global variable + 1 saved var and post it on the forums for slouken and see what he says |
| 03:41.38 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: I don't think slouken is actually in charge of the UI Design team though, but it wouldn't hurt |
| 03:41.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah i doubt he is |
| 03:42.08 | Arrowmaster | hes the guy making the comments to her speach right? |
| 03:42.17 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 03:42.27 | theoddone33 | he looks like chris jericoh |
| 03:42.30 | Cryect | wtf half that UI thing was show me the money addon |
| 03:42.31 | theoddone33 | jericho |
| 03:42.38 | theoddone33 | or did when I worked with him |
| 03:42.57 | kenlyric | man, I was bored just listening to you guys describe it. Then I watched it. |
| 03:43.12 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: The thing is, the Blizzard addons are actually coded in such a way to help people learn how to code addons, hence they use a far simplier approach, even if it's not the "right approach" |
| 03:43.17 | Arrowmaster | need better video quality to actually read this code |
| 03:43.20 | kenlyric | slides of code are possibly the only thing more dull than a soundalike contest. |
| 03:43.44 | Cryect | btw blizzard's use of "this" confused me I thought this was actually a lua standard for a short while due to that ;-p |
| 03:45.01 | Thrae | Cryect: That's because they were porting their OOD from C++ to Lua, and thought it would be easier to use 'this', which more non-Lua coders are familiar with |
| 03:45.28 | Cryect | yeah else than its confusing as hell when you are half learning lua from blizzard code :-p |
| 03:45.39 | Arrowmaster | just to be a bastard should rewite their showmethemoney addon then remove all the newlines and post it as 'showmethemoney addon rewriten in only 1 line of code!!!1' |
| 03:45.43 | Cryect | and you goto use what seems should be an alright case to use this and it doesn't work |
| 03:47.23 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Be a bigger bastard by doing ("foo"):format("%sfoo"), and, if UnitExists"player" then |
| 03:47.46 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 03:47.51 | NM|Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 03:48.03 | Arrowmaster | does UnitExists"player" actually work or did you just forget the () |
| 03:48.09 | NM|Xinhuan | it does actually work |
| 03:48.13 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 03:48.14 | NM|Xinhuan | its a lua standard shortcut |
| 03:48.21 | NM|Xinhuan | shorthand |
| 03:48.26 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: It works for strings for the 1st argument |
| 03:48.41 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah thats right acelocale used to be L"string" |
| 03:49.12 | Arrowmaster | 1st argument only? |
| 03:49.18 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Believe so |
| 03:49.59 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: If you're sending a lot of arguments, your use of the function is complex enough that a shortcut would be too confusing |
| 03:50.13 | Thrae | This isn't LISP |
| 03:50.36 | Arrowmaster | i want this frameexplorer slouken wrote |
| 03:51.44 | Cryect | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ |
| 03:51.46 | Cryect | there you go |
| 03:51.56 | Arrowmaster | i was just typing that in |
| 03:52.11 | Arrowmaster | but alas doubleclick is easyer |
| 03:52.23 | Cryect | heh like how the new combat log in 2.4 is half of what relog is :-p |
| 03:52.52 | Thrae | 2.4 is basically "SimpleCombatLog" aka HitsMode I believe |
| 03:52.59 | Cryect | no |
| 03:53.02 | Cryect | you can refilter |
| 03:53.10 | Funkeh` | you can inspect in detail |
| 03:53.11 | Thrae | When was that "EditingUI" mod added in? |
| 03:53.18 | Cryect | during blizzcon |
| 03:53.19 | Funkeh` | no idea |
| 03:53.29 | Thrae | Ah, so I didn't miss it |
| 03:53.43 | Cryect | yeah slouken introduced it there at the panel |
| 03:53.49 | Thrae | The "arcane tasks" will definately help my Mage! |
| 03:54.09 | Cryect | heh |
| 03:54.28 | Cryect | wtf they cut off the Q&A portion of the UI Panel |
| 03:54.44 | abug | they did that with the other panels too |
| 03:54.44 | Funkeh` | ran out of battery |
| 03:55.12 | Cryect | ran out of battery recording 25 minutes of show me the money! |
| 03:55.20 | kenlyric | I really hope blizz took videos of the dance competition. That was actually interesting to watch. |
| 03:56.36 | Arrowmaster | hmm if theyre making it so if you change the filter all the previous lines in the combat log get changed, why do i get the impression that theyre saving the every call to this new event to a table or something for reprocessing |
| 03:56.43 | Cryect | thats what they said |
| 03:57.06 | Cryect | He seemed to be pretty implicit that you can rechange on the fly to show past events |
| 03:57.15 | Cryect | oh wait |
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| 03:57.23 | Cryect | I completely misread that |
| 03:57.40 | Cryect | they will have to store it somewhere |
| 03:58.05 | Funkeh` | they will have a 500 line backlog or something |
| 03:58.26 | Cryect | 500 is kinda worthless |
| 03:58.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah im guessing they have two functions, the onevent that does a tinsert of the args to a table and pass the args to another function |
| 03:58.40 | kenlyric | is the issue with omen showing up while solo a known problem? |
| 03:58.44 | Cryect | thats uh a 15 second worth of time in a raid :-p |
| 03:58.52 | Arrowmaster | then when you change the filters it just calls that second function with the entire table as args |
| 03:58.53 | kenlyric | even the default is for it to be off while solo |
| 03:59.21 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric: i think we discovered that issue the other night, not sure if anybody bothered to fix it |
| 03:59.39 | kenlyric | it goes away if I uncheck the "show with pet" option |
| 03:59.39 | Cryect | the only problem I see is I bet blizzard isn't storing unit info |
| 03:59.56 | Cryect | and you really need past unit info log to really break it down |
| 04:02.03 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GznQo4Uolsc |
| 04:02.24 | abug | when is slouken gonna pose for playgirl |
| 04:02.41 | ccKep | Dewdrop/AceOptions question: if I have type = 'text', can validate be a function that returns a table or can is only boolean supported? |
| 04:02.57 | ccKep | *it |
| 04:04.50 | Nargiddley | ccKep, why do you want a function that returns a table ? |
| 04:05.29 | ccKep | because if validate is a table dewdrop creates a submenu with the possible values |
| 04:05.40 | Nargiddley | so set it to the table ? |
| 04:06.09 | ccKep | doesn't have AceOptions structure |
| 04:06.20 | ccKep | guess I'll just create a new table then |
| 04:06.53 | Health | How does Blessed Recovery work? If you get crit twice.. it gets overwritten? |
| 04:07.20 | ccKep | what I wanted was something like: validate = function() ..bla.. local t={} for mk, member in pairs(encounter.member) do tinsert(t, member.name) end return t end |
| 04:07.34 | ccKep | (for example) |
| 04:08.25 | Nargiddley | you can achieve the same thing setting validate to the table directly |
| 04:09.07 | ccKep | then validate would look something like this: validate={{name="Foo", class="WARLOCK"},{name="Bar", class="PRIEST"}} |
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| 04:09.19 | Nargiddley | no |
| 04:09.30 | Nargiddley | i meant the table the function would have returned |
| 04:09.57 | ccKep | that function would just have created it |
| 04:10.11 | ccKep | because it can change |
| 04:10.15 | ccKep | (the table) |
| 04:11.38 | ccKep | well, got it working how I wanted ;) |
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| 04:12.10 | Nargiddley | that way will create a table each time its called tho, not good |
| 04:13.00 | ccKep | the table I want to be presented consists of {name = "name", class="CLASS"} sub-tables, I have to create a new table anyway if I want it to be displayed? |
| 04:13.16 | Nargiddley | yeah but you dont have to create it every time, just once |
| 04:13.26 | ccKep | yeah, doing that now |
| 04:13.28 | Nargiddley | http://narg.pastey.net/71819 |
| 04:15.17 | Arrowmaster | slouken fails, EditingUI.zip doesnt have a folder in it just all the files |
| 04:15.23 | ccKep | http://ace.pastey.net/71820 is like how I'm doing it now |
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| 04:15.59 | ccKep | Arrowmaster: everyone uses the "Extract to <archivename without extension>" option in windows ;) |
| 04:16.08 | Arrowmaster | omg so many globals |
| 04:16.33 | Nargiddley | and that is creating a new table every time |
| 04:16.36 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 04:16.52 | ccKep | just when the selected encounter is changed @ Nargiddley? |
| 04:17.16 | Nargiddley | still unnecessary table creation |
| 04:17.33 | Arrowmaster | -- Change appearance if this is a GM build or not; if ( CopyToClipboard ) then; EditingFrame.isGM = 1; else; EditingFrameAnchorBar:SetHeight(113); EditingFrameClipboard:Show(); end |
| 04:18.39 | ccKep | *happy |
| 04:19.09 | ccKep | (giving it a more obvious name though, don't worry ^.^) |
| 04:20.56 | ccKep | another one (or two, maybe) questions regarding that Nargiddley |
| 04:21.51 | ccKep | how about: for k in pairs(self.options.args.EditLooter.validate) do self.options.args.EditLooter.validate[k] = nil end |
| 04:21.51 | ccKep | for mk, member in pairs(encounter.member) do tinsert(sself.options.args.EditLooter.validate, member.name) end |
| 04:21.53 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.58 | ccKep | http://ace.pastey.net/71821 <<< wanted that |
| 04:22.02 | ccKep | how about that? ;) |
| 04:22.09 | ccKep | without typos though |
| 04:23.03 | Nargiddley | yeah thats how i do it for dynamic alidates |
| 04:23.06 | Nargiddley | *validates |
| 04:24.09 | ccKep | is tremove(..., k) better then ...[k] = nil or is it doing the same thing in the background? |
| 04:25.03 | Nargiddley | tremove will shuffle the other entries around if you remove one not at the end |
| 04:25.19 | ccKep | well, needless there then |
| 04:25.40 | Arrowmaster | is k a string? |
| 04:25.46 | Arrowmaster | or number |
| 04:25.50 | ccKep | num |
| 04:26.03 | Arrowmaster | then you should probably do table.remove |
| 04:26.15 | Nargiddley | why ? |
| 04:26.21 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 04:26.36 | Arrowmaster | if hes using numbers as keys then he probably has a reason |
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| 04:26.54 | ccKep | tinsert does so ^.^ |
| 04:27.05 | ckknight | there's a difference between t[k] = nil and table.remove(t, k) |
| 04:27.29 | ccKep | that is? |
| 04:27.37 | ccKep | (if I'm doing it for all elements) |
| 04:28.02 | ckknight | basically, table.remove(t, k) removes t[k] and does t[k] = t[k+1] ad nauseum |
| 04:28.17 | ckknight | effectively removing the element and shifting all the elements above it |
| 04:28.31 | ccKep | yeah, but if I want to remove all elements thats unneccesary, isn't it? |
| 04:29.37 | Arrowmaster | if you want to remove all just do 'for k,v in pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end' |
| 04:29.51 | ccKep | thats what I'm doing there? |
| 04:29.53 | Arrowmaster | although i dont know how that would interact with tinsert |
| 04:30.29 | Nargiddley | the contents of the table are all that matters for tinsert, its going to be empty so it wont interact |
| 04:31.15 | ccKep | working how I wanted it, thanks Nargiddley =) |
| 04:33.14 | ccKep | digging through 500 wikis at the same time makes fun :o |
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| 04:39.48 | Funkeh` | Northrend QA @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25k13mnbqQA |
| 04:42.54 | Funkeh` | Part2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZdNhEq-Fpk |
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| 04:50.42 | knaledge | For closetgnome |
| 04:50.57 | knaledge | can you guys mamke it so that the "Add new otufit" thing isn't a statically placed box? |
| 04:51.07 | knaledge | I have my character frame anchored to the middle of the screen |
| 04:51.40 | knaledge | and this makes it a bit of a pain to use.. would be nice if this were either registered for mobility or appeared contextually based onthe position of the character frame |
| 04:52.54 | Thrae | 00:53 [Wowirc] < Shroom:#lightninghoof> I just do like bz and shove an ethernet cable up my ass and become one with the world of warcraft |
| 04:53.27 | knaledge | him too? |
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| 05:00.46 | knaledge | I installed ClosetGnome_Gatherer but I don't see it in the options for ClosetGnome |
| 05:00.51 | knaledge | Any ideas? |
| 05:05.34 | Gnarfoz | ~mudkipz |
| 05:07.09 | knaledge | I found a bug in ClosetGnome |
| 05:08.32 | knaledge | If I have Switcher: Stealth utilizing an outfit and enter stealth while flying/riding, ClosetGnome does not change me into my "Stealth" outfit |
| 05:09.25 | knaledge | Likewise, taking damage while in the "Stealth" outfit that brings you out of stealth does not change the outfit back to whatever the user has set for non-Stealth |
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| 05:13.43 | knaledge | Also, ClosetGnome_Gatherer definitely appears to be non-functional |
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| 05:17.35 | CIA-23 | 03fin * r45750 10FuBar_CustomMenuFu/CustomMenuFu.lua: |
| 05:17.35 | CIA-23 | FuBar_CustomMenuFu: |
| 05:17.35 | CIA-23 | - fixed dodgy regex when parsing args |
| 05:17.35 | CIA-23 | - changed delimiter for new commands to single "#" (from "###") |
| 05:17.35 | CIA-23 | - plan to change method of adding entries to "add entry", "set entry" to allow setting entry types, etc. |
| 05:17.35 | CIA-23 | - standardised colourosity |
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| 05:26.08 | Kemayo | Wobin_: You were looking for me? |
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| 05:42.29 | ccKep | /cheer me... typing in gchat while nobody is online... |
| 05:43.16 | ckknight | you're special |
| 05:44.13 | ccKep | 7:45 am here, hope someone wakes up soon :D |
| 05:44.52 | durcyn | pretty sure he means the bad kind of special |
| 05:45.41 | ccKep | well, spammed him in PM a few times, so I guess I know what kind of "special" :/ |
| 05:45.58 | ccKep | like, thousand senseless questions |
| 05:47.22 | ccKep | atleast I'm making progress thanks to him^^ |
| 05:48.03 | ccKep | and when I'm done with my addon he'll come with ace3 and I have to start from the beginning, HE is special... |
| 05:48.55 | ckknight | I'm working on LibJokerDB-3.0 now |
| 05:49.02 | ckknight | all that's left after that is Comm |
| 05:49.15 | ckknight | then all the base Ace2 stuff will have been ported over |
| 05:49.42 | ccKep | gotta write tons of docs then ;) |
| 05:49.46 | ckknight | already don |
| 05:49.48 | ckknight | done* |
| 05:49.51 | ccKep | woot |
| 05:50.04 | ckknight | figured it'd be best to write docs right away |
| 05:50.25 | Funkeh` | yeah auto docs ftw |
| 05:50.35 | Wobin_ | yeah, the python script still has problems with permissions for babble |
| 05:50.42 | Wobin_ | Kemayo: ^ |
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| 05:50.50 | ccKep | are there _major_ changes coming? because it seems you're kind of fast porting the stuff |
| 05:51.31 | nymbia_ | wait a tick.. what's all this then? |
| 05:51.42 | nymbia_ | aprils fools jokes come true? |
| 05:51.47 | ckknight | right. |
| 05:51.59 | ckknight | I named it Joker after the April Fool's joke |
| 05:52.05 | nymbia_ | whats it do and where can i read stuff |
| 05:52.16 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Joker |
| 05:52.20 | ckknight | just API docs |
| 05:52.37 | ckknight | basically it's Ace2 but slimmed down and given a consistent, saner API |
| 05:53.58 | Kemayo | Wobin_: It's still babble's fault. Someone with permissions needs to commit a fix. |
| 05:53.58 | ckknight | I'm taking out everything pointless and bloaty |
| 05:54.01 | ckknight | most things |
| 05:54.45 | Kemayo | ckknight: Set svn:executable on babblelod.sh so Wobin will stop telling me it doesn't work? :) |
| 05:54.55 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:55.57 | ckknight | I'm still contemplating updating AceOptions |
| 05:56.06 | CIA-23 | 03syntherift * r45751 10Numen/options.txt: |
| 05:56.06 | CIA-23 | Numen: |
| 05:56.06 | CIA-23 | - removed options.txt |
| 05:56.12 | ckknight | to be more sane and allow for more lazy options and the like |
| 05:56.45 | ckknight | I'm almost positive I will |
| 05:56.53 | Kemayo | It is definitely at the point where I've been writing AceOptions factories for my more recent addons. |
| 05:57.05 | ckknight | well, I don't expect that to go away |
| 05:57.07 | ckknight | necessarily |
| 05:57.19 | ckknight | but there are ...warts with the current AceOptions |
| 05:58.42 | ckknight | I want to fix the whole passing system |
| 05:58.54 | ckknight | either that or get rid of passing groups and force explicit passValues |
| 05:59.00 | ckknight | also, I want multiple passValues |
| 05:59.10 | ckknight | doing passValue = { "alpha", "bravo" } is icky |
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| 05:59.20 | ckknight | passValue = "alpha", passValue2 = "bravo" seems a mite bit cleaner to me |
| 05:59.37 | knaledge | ckknight - would it be possible to have a FuBar based option that all mods that use FuBar or have a FuBar plugin have an automatic sweeping, global setting for "Profile" ? |
| 05:59.41 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45752 10LightQueue/ (Libs/ LightQueue.lua LightQueue.toc embeds.xml): LightQueue: even lighter |
| 06:00.01 | ckknight | Knaledge: too late, that's already in there by default, to turn it off, set .independentProfile = true |
| 06:00.07 | knaledge | an option in FuBar itself to say something like "All addons that have a "Profile option" use X profile" |
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| 06:00.13 | knaledge | oh |
| 06:00.16 | knaledge | no I like that |
| 06:00.23 | knaledge | but it doesnt work that way sometimes then |
| 06:00.28 | ckknight | should work |
| 06:00.28 | knaledge | good example was ratingbuster |
| 06:00.47 | ckknight | if it set .independentProfile, there's nothing to be done |
| 06:00.47 | knaledge | I had to manually change each to use its own profile setting |
| 06:00.55 | knaledge | hrm |
| 06:01.03 | knaledge | no clue then.. just saying whay I saw |
| 06:01.44 | ckknight | it probably sets .independentProfile |
| 06:05.22 | CIA-23 | 03funkydude * r45753 10LightQueue/LightQueue.lua: LightQueue: doc |
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| 06:14.17 | knaledge | So vhaar told me to leave messages to him on his private message |
| 06:14.25 | knaledge | if I did that and he logs |
| 06:14.29 | knaledge | wll he get them? |
| 06:16.02 | durcyn | if he doesn't close his client yes |
| 06:16.11 | ckknight | vhaarr |
| 06:16.14 | ckknight | not vhaar |
| 06:16.22 | knaledge | well yeah |
| 06:16.31 | knaledge | I messaged vhaarr |
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| 06:20.33 | ckknight | Knaledge: what you could do is use purl to botmail him |
| 06:21.53 | CIA-23 | 03ktrigger * r45754 10Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 06:21.53 | CIA-23 | Numen: |
| 06:21.53 | CIA-23 | - Added working tooltips and spell book scanning. |
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| 06:22.22 | ckknight | Kemayo: set svn:executable to what? |
| 06:22.36 | ckknight | true? |
| 06:22.56 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r45755 10Babble-2.2/babblelod.sh: Babble-2.2 - set svn:executable to true for babblelod.sh |
| 06:23.03 | ckknight | let's hope so |
| 06:23.44 | knaledge | ~purl sup |
| 06:23.45 | purl | Yo knaledge, how's it going eh? |
| 06:23.50 | knaledge | ~purl message me |
| 06:23.57 | knaledge | ~purl I'm lazy so whisper me |
| 06:24.01 | knaledge | ~purl help |
| 06:24.06 | knaledge | well there. |
| 06:24.27 | Funkeh` | ~pancake knaledge |
| 06:24.28 | purl | ACTION slaps knaledge with a soggy pancake for playing with the food. |
| 06:24.59 | knaledge | ~teabag funkeh` |
| 06:24.59 | purl | ACTION squats |
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| 06:25.47 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45756 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - add in :IsActive()/:ToggleActive([state]) checks for a database to save in. |
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| 06:33.49 | CIA-23 | 03ktrigger * r45757 10Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 06:33.49 | CIA-23 | Numen: |
| 06:33.49 | CIA-23 | - Fixed missing weapon buffs. |
| 06:41.25 | Funkeh` | later |
| 06:41.45 | Kemayo | ckknight: The other place I've seen it it was set to *. I haven't bothered to look it up, but I suspect that all it checks for is whether there's anything at all in the property. |
| 06:42.06 | Kemayo | ckknight: Thanks, by the way. :D |
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| 06:44.12 | CIA-23 | 03nemes * r45758 10NBuffBars/ (5 files in 2 dirs): NBuffBars: add keybindings, combatlockdown, position saving, better header tooltips/control areas |
| 06:45.14 | Gnarfoz | aren't there any items with +lockpicking? -.- |
| 06:45.26 | CIA-23 | 03ktrigger * r45759 10Numen/embeds.xml: |
| 06:45.26 | CIA-23 | Numen: |
| 06:45.26 | CIA-23 | - Fixed externals. |
| 06:45.51 | Jaxon | Gnarfoz: there are some leather gloves. |
| 06:45.57 | Gnarfoz | indeed? |
| 06:46.29 | Jaxon | I'm pretty sure, craftable. |
| 06:46.33 | Jaxon | No, wait |
| 06:46.40 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 06:46.40 | Jaxon | I crafted gloves for someone and they enchanted them |
| 06:46.42 | Gnarfoz | I found them |
| 06:46.43 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=4248 |
| 06:46.57 | Gnarfoz | +5 |
| 06:46.58 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 06:47.06 | Gnarfoz | that still wouldn't prevent it from failing, tho |
| 06:47.31 | Gnarfoz | which is kind of unfair, seeing the other skills got no failure chance anymore at max |
| 06:47.53 | Gnarfoz | but I guess they're easy to get, so what :> |
| 06:47.57 | Jaxon | I think lockpicking was overlooked, as well, not a secondary profession but a class skill with unique mechanics. |
| 06:48.07 | CIA-23 | 03ktrigger * r45760 10Numen/: |
| 06:48.07 | CIA-23 | Numen: |
| 06:48.07 | CIA-23 | - Added Gratuity external. |
| 06:48.32 | Killmore | funkydude ? |
| 06:50.05 | knaledge | 350 LP is fairly limited use though |
| 06:50.09 | knaledge | outside of picking arc gate |
| 06:50.33 | knaledge | not like skinning where you need like +20 |
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| 06:57.39 | Gnarfoz | khorium lockboxes? |
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| 06:57.56 | Gnarfoz | dunno anyway, doesn't feel right to not have every skill I've got maxed |
| 06:58.32 | Gnarfoz | but I'm just trying to reduce the chance of my precious Mechanar chests failing to unlock, which in turn results in me being squished to death by some angry mobs |
| 06:58.37 | Gnarfoz | without loot |
| 07:00.00 | Diao | lol |
| 07:00.02 | Diao | stealth running mech? |
| 07:01.33 | knaledge | ard to do if you're anything serious about raiding |
| 07:01.42 | knaledge | lack of sub spec, etc. |
| 07:01.50 | knaledge | I guess you could gear up with boots and cloak |
| 07:01.55 | knaledge | and run it naked |
| 07:03.39 | Diao | friend of mine went full sub just to stealth mech |
| 07:03.42 | Diao | and still does it naked |
| 07:03.47 | Gnarfoz | I wear only items without durability |
| 07:03.52 | Diao | and then respecced after to raid |
| 07:04.06 | Gnarfoz | and yes, 19/44/0 doesn't make it any easier -.- |
| 07:04.19 | Gnarfoz | only stealth enhancements I've got is d2/t0.5 boots |
| 07:04.21 | knaledge | 15/41/5 here |
| 07:04.32 | knaledge | you could get master's treads for the +stam |
| 07:04.38 | knaledge | cloak enchant |
| 07:04.47 | knaledge | those gloves there... forget which |
| 07:04.47 | Gnarfoz | nah, stam is no problem, I'm at 5.6k hp |
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| 07:05.03 | Gnarfoz | just starting to try to do this, too |
| 07:05.18 | knaledge | there's like... 4 or 5 stealth items/enchants you can do |
| 07:05.28 | Gnarfoz | I've got more the sort of problems like "didn't see one mob didn't start running for me and was still down there" ^^ |
| 07:05.31 | knaledge | I know at least gloves, boots, and cloak have an item for it |
| 07:05.48 | Gnarfoz | or: failed unlocking, ran back, chest despawned -.- |
| 07:06.23 | ccKep | just found out doing aq20 with a few people brings a massive amount of gold ^.^ |
| 07:06.36 | knaledge | define massive |
| 07:06.50 | ccKep | those class spell books sell for 10g to the vendor each |
| 07:06.59 | Gnarfoz | yay, managed to do it for the second time now, in my... 6th try :) |
| 07:07.22 | ccKep | every boss seems to drop 2 books, ossirian 3.. plus the epics you can shard or vendor plus the gold the bosses drop |
| 07:07.53 | knaledge | yield more money than herb circuit for an hour or so? |
| 07:07.53 | Gnarfoz | how many people did you bring? |
| 07:07.53 | ccKep | kurinaxx, rajaxx, buru, ayamiss, moam makes 10 books, + 3 from ossiran are 13 books |
| 07:07.53 | knaledge | er rather, even the same amount of time? |
| 07:08.06 | Gnarfoz | yeah, and how long did it take you |
| 07:08.16 | ccKep | we did 9, sometimes 8 due to afk people.. but its easily doable with 5 |
| 07:08.33 | ccKep | took 70-90mins or so, didn't look at the clock |
| 07:08.36 | knaledge | sounds like a good way to make money when you wish to divert yourself from normal raiding |
| 07:08.45 | Gnarfoz | should be fun, yeah ^^ |
| 07:08.52 | knaledge | but personally I'd rather spend an hour and a half farming herbs/mine nodes |
| 07:09.03 | ccKep | rajaxx is actually easier than kurinaxx because the adds still are level 6x xd |
| 07:09.18 | knaledge | made 700g yesterday alone off of 2 hours of farming old world and netherstorm |
| 07:09.29 | ccKep | ossirian seems to carry approx. 90g |
| 07:09.35 | ccKep | + epics + 3 books (30g) |
| 07:09.39 | ccKep | good enough ^^. |
| 07:09.40 | ccKep | ^.^ |
| 07:09.49 | ccKep | guess we'll start making some runs regularly now |
| 07:10.21 | CIA-23 | 03syntherift * r45761 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc plugins/Numen.lua): |
| 07:10.21 | CIA-23 | cyCircled: |
| 07:10.21 | CIA-23 | - Added Numen support |
| 07:10.47 | ccKep | it's basically like a daily quest, just with a few people :D |
| 07:12.24 | ccKep | what we learned: you should still kite ossirian between the pylons :o |
| 07:13.22 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 07:13.23 | ccKep | doable without I think, but we only had one tank so our melee pulled aggro when he was cycloned, and a rogue can't tank him supreme :o |
| 07:13.27 | Gnarfoz | supreme mode ftw |
| 07:13.58 | Gnarfoz | btw regarding mechanar |
| 07:14.11 | Gnarfoz | ItemRack + a "naked" set and a keybind to that helps :> |
| 07:14.35 | knaledge | closetgnome I think detects the zone |
| 07:14.38 | knaledge | and auto changes me |
| 07:14.48 | knaledge | nice touch |
| 07:15.01 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 07:15.11 | Gnarfoz | I could do that for zoning in with IR, too, of course |
| 07:15.22 | knaledge | yeah I just got done using Outfitter |
| 07:15.27 | knaledge | tired of it's bugginess |
| 07:15.34 | Gnarfoz | I was just thinking about getting rid of the few durability items you have to wear |
| 07:15.35 | knaledge | great addon... just getting stale |
| 07:15.52 | Gnarfoz | like MH weapon for sap and ranged weapon for pulling |
| 07:16.00 | Gnarfoz | (and shoes because my stealth is lousy otherwise ^^) |
| 07:16.23 | Gnarfoz | I just pull, hit the shortcut, and the moment I'm down there at the chest and vanish, it unequips the stuff |
| 07:16.32 | Gnarfoz | no repair costs for me :> |
| 07:16.36 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 07:16.46 | Gnarfoz | instance limit -.- |
| 07:17.21 | Gnarfoz | how is that counted, exactly? 5 instances id's since I entered the first of those 5? |
| 07:18.09 | Gnarfoz | is it 1 hour since I hit the limit, or 1 hour since I entered the first instance of the 5/h? |
| 07:18.47 | CIA-23 | 03evilelvis * r45762 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels: reverting parent changes due to excessive memory use |
| 07:18.58 | ccKep | first I think |
| 07:19.06 | knaledge | 1 hour since first occurrence |
| 07:19.19 | knaledge | once that first occurrence clears, the rest clear |
| 07:19.23 | knaledge | then you have 5 again |
| 07:19.51 | Gnarfoz | the worse one, of course, how could I have fooled myself ;> |
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| 07:25.18 | Gnarfoz | actually |
| 07:25.18 | ckknight | lol, my mother doesn't like that the movie treats her like a criminal with the anti-piracy ads and all |
| 07:25.24 | ckknight | I find that funny |
| 07:25.28 | Gnarfoz | it seems it is the latter, knaledge |
| 07:25.58 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: I find that rare, but nontheless, nice |
| 07:25.58 | vithos | who leaves the anti-piracy ads in... |
| 07:26.07 | Gnarfoz | vithos: the cinemas |
| 07:26.23 | ckknight | DVD |
| 07:26.41 | Gnarfoz | them, too :) |
| 07:26.45 | vithos | oh, right. i forgot people actually don't pirate movies |
| 07:26.59 | Gnarfoz | that happens? |
| 07:27.00 | Gnarfoz | ;> |
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| 07:27.10 | ckknight | You wouldn't steal a car |
| 07:27.15 | ckknight | you wouldn't steal groceries |
| 07:27.20 | ckknight | you wouldn't steal pants |
| 07:27.27 | ckknight | you wouldn't steal a DVD |
| 07:27.35 | ckknight | you're a pirate. stop it |
| 07:28.04 | CIA-23 | 03laric * r45763 10AoFDKP/AoFDKP.lua: |
| 07:28.04 | CIA-23 | AoFDKP : |
| 07:28.04 | CIA-23 | - More local only changes. |
| 07:28.06 | ckknight | basically |
| 07:28.08 | vithos | But I WOULD key their Jaguar. |
| 07:29.44 | Laric | the really funny thing is that technically you dont steal anything when you are downloading a movie as they say in the antipiracy ads |
| 07:30.55 | knaledge | so gnar |
| 07:31.01 | ckknight | it's copyright infringement |
| 07:31.07 | knaledge | are these mobs seeing through vanish on you? |
| 07:31.07 | ckknight | which is a different crime from theft |
| 07:31.53 | Laric | but the ads say you steal.. so they are lying to you :P |
| 07:31.55 | vithos | don't worry, soon enough they'll be saying piracy == terrorism |
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| 07:32.46 | Laric | I do remember that the boss of MPAA said that piracy is 'unamerican' |
| 07:33.14 | knaledge | he's correct |
| 07:33.32 | knaledge | piracy was generally a thing the french and polynesian took a liking to |
| 07:33.38 | knaledge | same for the visigoths |
| 07:33.54 | ckknight | Americans are known for not paying if they don't have to |
| 07:34.02 | knaledge | And in the late 1700's, Europeans at large took to the seas. |
| 07:34.17 | ckknight | e.g. that whole tax thing in the revolutionary war, toll roads, etc. |
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| 07:38.31 | Bruners | is there some settings in nero that will let me burn CD |
| 07:38.35 | Bruners | 's with 1x speed |
| 07:38.49 | Bruners | slowest i get is 8x |
| 07:39.35 | SyntheRift | anyone happen to know about the overlays in CyCircled and how to have the corners of buttons to be hidden when a circular skin is applied? |
| 07:40.38 | CIA-23 | 03syntherift * r45764 10Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 07:40.38 | CIA-23 | Numen: |
| 07:40.38 | CIA-23 | - Added Dreamlayout style to buttons |
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| 07:42.04 | Gnarfoz | <knaledge> are these mobs seeing through vanish on you? <-- no, don't think any do |
| 07:42.35 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45765 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - fix :OnUnembed call |
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| 07:56.17 | Silviu- | Is there any command or so to see the Fps on your screen without any addon ? and assuming i`m using Bartender3 so i won`t see the default from blizzard ? |
| 07:57.00 | Nargiddley | ctrl+r turns the default on |
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| 07:57.01 | ckknight | ctrl-f |
| 07:57.07 | ckknight | oh, ctrl-r, I guess |
| 07:57.10 | Silviu- | Oh thank u :D |
| 07:57.18 | Silviu- | ctrl+ |
| 07:57.18 | Silviu- | r |
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| 08:16.12 | mjc | what's a primal might xmute usually cost |
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| 08:23.18 | CIA-23 | 03daviesh * r45766 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (4 files): |
| 08:23.18 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:23.18 | CIA-23 | - Preliminary Atlas 1.10 support |
| 08:24.32 | matt[] | Sorry, does anyone know how to export Pitbull configs? |
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| 08:24.48 | CIA-23 | 03krakhaan * r45767 10AFX/ (AFX.lua localization.lua readme.txt): |
| 08:24.48 | CIA-23 | AFX: |
| 08:24.48 | CIA-23 | - Fixed search bug |
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| 08:28.22 | mjc | wb ckk |
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| 08:38.02 | kandarz | hi, I was wondering if someone might be able to point me to documentation on the Parser-3.0 API, I'm interested in updating Chronometer to the new parser but can't find the API docs |
| 08:38.26 | CIA-23 | 03daviesh * r45768 10AtlasLoot/ (AtlasLoot.toc LoDModules.xml): |
| 08:38.26 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:38.26 | CIA-23 | - Removed the ability to load all modules from the root AtlasLoot directory. |
| 08:38.26 | CIA-23 | This means that if WoWAceUpdater is not set to unpackage the mod, you need to |
| 08:38.26 | CIA-23 | download all the LoD modules seperately. The reason for this is that not all |
| 08:38.26 | CIA-23 | updaters people are using support filelist.wau packages and as such were loading |
| 08:38.30 | CIA-23 | everything at startup whether they want to or not. |
| 08:40.40 | ckknight_ | kandarz: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Parser-3.0 |
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| 08:42.21 | kandarz | ah, it wasn't linked on the API documentation category page |
| 08:42.21 | kandarz | thank you :) |
| 08:44.21 | Fisker- | man |
| 08:44.25 | Fisker- | starcraft 2 looks so good |
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| 08:46.08 | cncfanatics | good morning ! |
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| 08:48.41 | Fisker- | lol |
| 08:48.49 | Fisker- | rob pardo tried to play pro |
| 08:48.59 | cncfanatics | ~framexml |
| 08:48.59 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 08:49.01 | Fisker- | and he lost his units so he had to cheat |
| 08:50.07 | ckknight_ | morning, cncfanatics |
| 08:50.54 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: show? |
| 08:51.02 | cncfanatics | ckknight_, I had a small question about ModuleCore |
| 08:51.10 | Fisker- | >O |
| 08:51.12 | Fisker- | :O |
| 08:51.20 | cncfanatics | when using :IterateModules, why does it do them alphabeticlaly ? instead of in the order they were registerred |
| 08:51.20 | Fisker- | Xel'Naga is in SC2 then |
| 08:51.38 | Fisker- | yeah Gnarfoz he was doing a mission |
| 08:51.42 | cncfanatics | sounds more logical to iterate in the order stuff was registerred |
| 08:51.48 | ckknight | there's no real point to getting modules by creation, as it's arbitrary, if I were to do it in the way they were registered, I'd need to keep more data about the modules |
| 08:51.58 | Fisker- | where he said he used this technology because you could bypass a lot of the base to take out the small force guarding an artifact |
| 08:51.59 | Gnarfoz | no, I meant, is there a video of that? |
| 08:52.08 | Fisker- | oh |
| 08:52.12 | Fisker- | on ign.com |
| 08:52.15 | ckknight | cncfanatics: not to me |
| 08:52.37 | cncfanatics | okay I see |
| 08:52.54 | cncfanatics | well, I had to get em by the order they were registerred, its only two lines of code anyway :p |
| 08:53.48 | ckknight | but why? |
| 08:54.08 | cncfanatics | some of my module's :OnEnable functions need to have another module loaded first |
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| 08:54.39 | ckknight | those should be called in the order of creation |
| 08:54.43 | ckknight | so what's the issue? |
| 08:54.50 | cncfanatics | hmmm, wait, one sec |
| 08:54.52 | cncfanatics | lemme explain :p |
| 08:55.06 | cncfanatics | I do an :IterateModules in my addon's :OnInitialize function |
| 08:55.48 | cncfanatics | that loop will search for mixins in the modules, and include then in the base class for buttons |
| 08:55.59 | cncfanatics | problem is, not every mixin can have an init function registerred |
| 08:56.20 | cncfanatics | so I made a function called :Activate() and when a button is created, the init function loops through all activate functions and calls them |
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| 08:56.37 | cncfanatics | so mixins rely on others, so if the activates are called in the wrong order, things go wrong |
| 08:56.58 | ckknight | you should simplify things, then. |
| 08:57.27 | ckknight | or you could do this: |
| 08:57.45 | ckknight | table.insert(core.activateFunctions, function() --[[ stuff to call ]] end) |
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| 08:57.56 | cncfanatics | thats what I do |
| 08:58.02 | cncfanatics | and then a loop calls them when needed |
| 08:58.03 | mjc | it's irritating how many addons these days don't have optdeps set |
| 08:58.17 | ckknight | instead of having :Activate methods |
| 08:58.17 | ckknight | and then on OnInitialize, run through em |
| 08:58.22 | ckknight | mjc: yea, they're not supposed to |
| 08:58.24 | ckknight | mjc: in most cases |
| 08:58.29 | ckknight | they should have X-Embeds, though |
| 08:58.35 | mjc | yep, none of that either |
| 08:58.50 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I could get modules to directly insert into the core indeed |
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| 08:59.33 | hamunaptra | can anybody tell me how semiautomatic revision use within addons is done? i.e. what i have to do to access the current svn revision from within my script? pitbull and others seem to do it somehow!? |
| 08:59.58 | cncfanatics | think its with an svn tag, but i'm such a dummy I couldnt tell you what one |
| 09:00.02 | mjc | you have to set a svn property on the file in order to use keywords |
| 09:00.10 | ckknight | hamunaptra: svn:keywords = "Date Rev" |
| 09:00.17 | ckknight | cncfanatics: I can almost guarantee there's a better way to do what you're doing |
| 09:00.28 | ckknight | cncfanatics: everything you've described seems overly complicated |
| 09:00.33 | ckknight | and needlessly, at that |
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| 09:00.41 | Fisker- | weird |
| 09:00.50 | Fisker- | sounds like the runesystem is ezmode |
| 09:00.57 | mjc | see http://www.developer.com/tech/print.php/10923_3503151_4 |
| 09:01.00 | mjc | svn:keywords |
| 09:01.11 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I could optimize the Initializing process a lot for sure indeed |
| 09:01.18 | cncfanatics | too much tables, too much needless stuff |
| 09:02.11 | hamunaptra | ckknight: ok, once I set that property for the file, what's the placeholder to be used in the script? |
| 09:02.27 | cncfanatics | $Rev$ if I recall well |
| 09:02.29 | ckknight | $Rev$ or $Revision$ |
| 09:02.33 | mjc | hamunaptra: click that link but I think it's $Rev$ |
| 09:02.44 | ckknight | turns into $Revision: 1 $ |
| 09:02.57 | hamunaptra | cool, thx :) |
| 09:03.00 | ckknight | so what I do is tonumber(("$Revision: 1 $"):match("(%d+)")) |
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| 09:08.46 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45769 10fmBuffCheck/ (fmBuffCheck.lua fmBuffCheck.toc): |
| 09:08.46 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 09:08.47 | CIA-23 | - added automatic revision updating |
| 09:11.25 | hamunaptra | ok, works: big thanks to all responders :) |
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| 09:15.29 | hamunaptra | does anyone know of an elegant way of getting the type (guardian, battle, both) of a buff besides parsing the tooltips? |
| 09:15.49 | cncfanatics | of an elixir u mean ? |
| 09:15.57 | cncfanatics | think parsing the tooltip is the only way :p |
| 09:16.04 | hamunaptra | jup, was afraid so... |
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| 09:17.16 | Fisker- | nooooooo |
| 09:17.26 | Fisker- | IGN called "Battle.Net" for Battle Dot Net |
| 09:17.27 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:17.39 | cncfanatics | so ? |
| 09:17.45 | cncfanatics | go bite em :p |
| 09:18.34 | Fisker- | indeed |
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| 09:21.16 | cncfanatics | ooooh |
| 09:21.23 | cncfanatics | tiberian wars has 1 mb left to download |
| 09:21.32 | cncfanatics | done :) |
| 09:22.15 | Diao | question |
| 09:22.16 | Diao | http://files.filefront.com/PreformAVEnablerrar/;6737744;/fileinfo.html |
| 09:22.18 | Diao | does that actually work |
| 09:22.26 | Diao | i'm trying to read the code but whoever wrote it put it all into 1 line |
| 09:22.29 | Diao | and it's really hard to read :( |
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| 09:23.43 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45770 10fmBuffCheck/fmBuffCheck.lua: |
| 09:23.43 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 09:23.43 | CIA-23 | - added support for flasks (both kinds of elixir at the same time) |
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| 09:29.17 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45771 10fmBuffCheck/fmBuffCheck.lua: |
| 09:29.17 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 09:29.17 | CIA-23 | - added date to version |
| 09:34.26 | Fisker- | yay |
| 09:34.31 | Fisker- | no more octoshape client |
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| 09:37.02 | hamunaptra | is there any kind of library to help in the creation of UI elements? AceGUI is said to be dead... |
| 09:42.09 | Neebler | www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ |
| 09:42.15 | ckknight | hamunaptra: I just use CreateFrame |
| 09:47.28 | Fisker- | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/08/img_1568.jpg <-lol |
| 09:48.18 | Punkie` | need more lulz Fisker- |
| 09:48.25 | Fisker- | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/08/img_1572.jpg <-what does BFF mean? |
| 09:48.32 | Fisker- | And no do NOT tell me it's Best Friend Forever |
| 09:48.57 | Punkie` | thats the only abbreviation for that I know :P |
| 09:49.19 | ckknight | yea, it is |
| 09:49.21 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 09:49.21 | Punkie` | well the first line says 'But Mom...' so i guess it could be just as silly |
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| 09:49.35 | Fisker- | but atleast it was a bit funnier |
| 09:49.49 | CIA-23 | 03diablohu * r45772 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
| 09:49.49 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:49.49 | CIA-23 | - update zhCN |
| 09:50.05 | Fisker- | to be honest |
| 09:50.12 | Fisker- | they shouldn't move dalaran to Northrend |
| 09:50.15 | ckknight | hrm, Frostmourne = can roll DK now? |
| 09:50.25 | Fisker- | If Malygos want's to kill all mages, that's a war i wanna support :P |
| 09:50.27 | ckknight | Fisker-: they were planning on it? |
| 09:50.27 | Punkie` | go level ckknight! |
| 09:50.42 | Diao | wow |
| 09:50.47 | ckknight | Diao: ? |
| 09:50.53 | Fisker- | when you become level 80 you'll do a quest line that explains your connection to the lich king |
| 09:50.56 | Diao | the frostmourne |
| 09:50.57 | Diao | is... |
| 09:50.59 | Diao | sick |
| 09:50.59 | Fisker- | and when you finish it, you can create a DK |
| 09:51.04 | ckknight | right |
| 09:51.10 | ckknight | but I want to know the quest |
| 09:51.16 | ckknight | getting frostmourne would make sense |
| 09:51.25 | Punkie` | i doubt that is real |
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| 09:51.31 | Diao | it's from blizzcon isn't it? |
| 09:51.35 | Punkie` | most of the things on their powerpoints are jokes |
| 09:51.50 | Diao | so then you don't think executioner enchant is real either? |
| 09:51.54 | Diao | or the new shaman talents ;P |
| 09:51.56 | Punkie` | i do |
| 09:51.56 | Fisker- | Punkie` obviously |
| 09:52.00 | Punkie` | but things like that are not |
| 09:52.08 | Fisker- | The next slide was a player yelling "I'm the lich king, lol!" |
| 09:52.16 | Punkie` | yeah :P |
| 09:52.37 | Punkie` | and 'Hail to the King, baby!' |
| 09:52.43 | Fisker- | ;O |
| 09:52.45 | Punkie` | didn't the guy in BRD say that? :P |
| 09:52.49 | Punkie` | when he killed someone |
| 09:52.57 | Fisker- | They want Garona to have sex with Thrall |
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| 09:55.02 | Punkie` | http://www.wowwiki.com/Emperor_Dagran_Thaurissan <-- yep he does :P |
| 09:55.05 | Punkie` | legendary quote |
| 09:56.14 | ckknight | lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQm7YpxgOnA&feature=PlayList&p=2D62352A5A654823&index=0 |
| 09:56.46 | Punkie` | haha, seen that :P |
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| 09:58.13 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 09:59.20 | Cheads | at blizzcon, has there been any comments about the so called 'store-mode' for the old dungeons, so lore-players(and casual players) can experience the old raid instances too? |
| 09:59.32 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 10:00.53 | Cheads | been many threads on the forums about it.. so thought blizzard might have commented on it |
| 10:00.54 | Fisker- | needs a massive dose of do not want |
| 10:01.11 | Fisker- | and no, there's been no talks of that |
| 10:01.26 | Fisker- | not like there is much lore until AQ and Naxx |
| 10:01.48 | Fisker- | Blizzard needs to have a Starcraft 2 beta soon ;( |
| 10:02.41 | Cheads | Fisker- just because you don't want it, doesn't mean other don't... and apparently many do want to see aq and naxx |
| 10:03.38 | Cheads | also for the TBC raids.. not exactly many will have experienced BT when WotLK arrives |
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| 10:08.28 | ckknight_ | when applying the vegetable oil, be liberal with it: pretend you're a blogger |
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| 10:11.29 | Fisker- | anyone know when's bioshock is released |
| 10:11.51 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45773 10fmBuffCheck/fmBuffCheck.lua: |
| 10:11.51 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 10:11.51 | CIA-23 | - added preliminary support for frame |
| 10:13.49 | cncfanatics | hamunaptra, whats fmbuffcheck ? |
| 10:15.11 | Fisker- | man |
| 10:15.16 | Fisker- | bioshock sounds like the game form e |
| 10:15.18 | Fisker- | for me* |
| 10:15.24 | Fisker- | i can eat peoples organs |
| 10:15.50 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how surprising to hear that from Fisker- |
| 10:16.42 | Fisker- | that's racist :( |
| 10:17.14 | hamunaptra | cnc: fmbuffcheck is an addon that will allow the raidleader to check on the required buffs before a boss fight... |
| 10:17.36 | hamunaptra | (its early beta, so don't expect too much) |
| 10:17.45 | ckknight | no it's not... |
| 10:18.49 | cncfanatics | thank you hamunaptra |
| 10:20.03 | hamunaptra | cnc: np :) |
| 10:20.36 | hamunaptra | all: store-mode? whuzzat` |
| 10:20.46 | Fisker- | i think he meant story-mode |
| 10:21.20 | Fisker- | Also they're probably unlikely to implement it since they can't just make instances for every person |
| 10:21.23 | cncfanatics | ~framexml |
| 10:21.24 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
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| 10:29.07 | ramoz | weab: possible to make a check in automaton if the person im talking to also have something else instead of just automagically open the buy window? |
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| 10:37.35 | Cheads | yeah story-mode |
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| 10:44.10 | Cheads | When Warcraft lore was only evolved through RTS games, everyone was able to experience the story through the campaign missions, and become attached to the characters involved. Now that the story is being evolved from an MMO, It just doesn't seem right to evolve and kill off the characters everyone has become attached to through events a small part of the playerbase will ever actually see. |
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| 10:52.23 | weab | ramoz: clarify |
| 10:52.33 | weab | in most cases it already does do that |
| 10:52.59 | Gamefaq | mhh is svn down? |
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| 10:56.32 | ramoz | weab: last week when i was at the trainer to respec, it jumped right into the window where i could train new skill |
| 10:56.45 | weab | yep, it'll do that |
| 10:56.45 | ramoz | i was unable to click the "I want to unlearn my talents" button |
| 10:57.00 | weab | i'm sure you want to train more often than you want to respec. |
| 10:57.27 | weab | hold down shift when you click on an npc and it'll temporarily negate autogossip |
| 10:57.32 | ramoz | ah, ok |
| 10:58.33 | ramoz | thanks, didnt know about that |
| 10:58.39 | weab | np |
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| 11:22.30 | BankZ | Anyone know of an addon that will change my default chat, like when I logon switch to guild chat and when I join a raid, switch to raid |
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| 11:36.33 | Nickenyfiken | Whats up with dev.wowace.com? |
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| 11:41.42 | LAG|Domo | Anyone familiar with Grid's layout format in the GridLayoutLayouts.lue? |
| 11:41.47 | LAG|Domo | lua* |
| 11:42.21 | LAG|Domo | I'm trying to create a custom layout that sorts by class, but only shows people in group 1 to 5. I'm not entirely sure how to approach this. |
| 11:43.25 | LAG|Domo | Looking at the existing Sort-By-Class layout, it shows groupFilter = "WARRIOR",. I'm not sure how to add that I only want to see group 1 to 5 there.. |
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| 11:49.42 | Fisker- | Does illidan have an enrage timer that ends the encounter? |
| 11:54.56 | BankZ | Does VoiceFU work? |
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| 11:59.11 | Qaarh | Hmm.. Anyone have an idea how to make GarbageFu recognize Closetgnome sets so it won't sell them? |
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| 12:14.28 | thmo | any WAU devs alive? |
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| 12:19.20 | hamunaptra | svn still down? |
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| 12:24.29 | Amadeo | hm |
| 12:24.34 | Amadeo | maybe I shouldn't have just respecced on PTR |
| 12:24.43 | Amadeo | now I have 0 talent points and 0 talents |
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| 12:30.02 | poull | I could use a little help on how best to keeping a dewdrop menu updated. It contains a list of players and should change as they join/leave. For each player there is a submenu where some options are checked, disabled and hidden depending on which player. Right now i simply rebuild a ace options table each time but i think there should be a better way to simply update the menu instead. Any hints? :) |
| 12:31.46 | Sirow | well you could give each submenu its own function and then only call those |
| 12:31.54 | hamunaptra | have a look on how PitBull does it (ckknight), it seems to do this "more" dynamically... |
| 12:32.52 | poull | Well the problem with these functions for the submenu is they have to depend on what player was selected, i can't get that info :S |
| 12:33.04 | poull | But i'll have a look at PitBull's approch :) |
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| 12:58.06 | Vasarius | Hi ehm.. IS this a channel for WoW addons? Just wanna make sure |
| 12:58.33 | Amadeo | Yes |
| 12:58.35 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 12:58.35 | Punkie` | wowace addons generally yeah |
| 12:58.50 | Vasarius | Oki :) Maybe you guys could help me get a UI up? |
| 12:59.52 | Vasarius | Just want something simple. No great art or something. I DO want the Party/Raid thingie changed to something with more overview. Imo the original is messed up. |
| 13:00.26 | Dustwhisper| | Grid is my preference for raidframes since i dont heal or anything |
| 13:00.29 | Vasarius | Being able to move health/mana bar and target around. Plus change those too to something.. Just better looking |
| 13:00.32 | Dustwhisper| | PItbull/AGUF or perfect raid or something |
| 13:00.56 | Vasarius | Its not nessesarily for raid. Just 5 mans group first i guess... |
| 13:01.07 | [dRaCo] | I'd suggest pitbull to replace the default unitframes |
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| 13:01.20 | [dRaCo] | maybe bartender3 if you want control over your buttons, too |
| 13:01.23 | Dustwhisper| | this guy wants simple though |
| 13:01.31 | Dustwhisper| | and in my opinion agUf is 10x easier to setup than pitbull |
| 13:01.56 | Vasarius | By simple i just mean no great art like silver dragon up the right side and such. |
| 13:03.00 | [dRaCo] | get pitbull or ag_UnitFrames and start playing around |
| 13:03.05 | Vasarius | Hmm i tryed to put agUF up at a friend while using my char at he's comp. I loved it. Looked awesome with target, party and such... But i cant seem to find the right files |
| 13:03.11 | Vasarius | Keep coming up with Error thingie. |
| 13:03.43 | [dRaCo] | pitbull looks pretty much like aguf, if you want it too |
| 13:04.01 | [dRaCo] | http://files.wowace.com/ <-- here are all ace addons |
| 13:04.19 | Punkie` | Vasarius: Try PerfectRaid, it's not Ace2 but it's still great |
| 13:09.36 | dylanm | Punkie`: Agreed. It's easy to show the important buffs and debuffs and health deficits, which is pretty much all I need to know as a paladin. |
| 13:11.55 | Vasarius | Yaay seems AG unitframe and Bartender can do the job for me :) Thanks alot |
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| 13:14.26 | Nyri | does anybody know an addon, which shows the timer how long a target is not cycloable 6 sec ? 4 sec ... |
| 13:14.35 | Nyri | *n |
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| 13:18.22 | cncfanatics | what gets trigerred when you drag an UI element ? |
| 13:18.53 | Qaarh | Who's working on GarbageFu? |
| 13:20.31 | BankZ | Is there an ace2 mod that hides tooltips in combat? |
| 13:21.19 | dylanm | cncfanatics: Uh you can set handlers for OnDragStart and OnDragStop. |
| 13:22.04 | cncfanatics | dylanm, ty |
| 13:22.08 | cncfanatics | has been a while since I used them |
| 13:22.55 | Keya | i went from agUf to Pitbull, it was a long session configuring everything - but i really like the very modular approach |
| 13:22.55 | dylanm | cncfanatics: Heh. I'm a bit of a nub wrt. the WoW API so I don't know if that's the best way. |
| 13:23.56 | cncfanatics | dylanm, its not for actual dragging imo, but I need action dragging, so the delay on it is perfect :) |
| 13:24.16 | Keya | & now my Pitbull frames look almost as minimalistic as my aguf compact frames, just with a hint of extra info |
| 13:24.21 | Amadeo | Keya: Long session doesn't even begin to describe it :P |
| 13:24.50 | Silviu- | Finnaly i finished my ui :) |
| 13:24.51 | Silviu- | again .. |
| 13:24.52 | Silviu- | :)) |
| 13:25.01 | Keya | hardest part is finding a health and manastring that suites your needs |
| 13:25.09 | BankZ | Anyone know of an addon that will change my default chat, like when I logon switch to guild chat and when I join a raid, switch to raid |
| 13:25.13 | Silviu- | I`m obsesed about deleting everything and remake all once every 2 3 months or so :) |
| 13:25.18 | Amadeo | Nyri: Natur EnemyCastBar does DR, not sure what else does |
| 13:25.31 | Amadeo | Silviu-: let's see it |
| 13:25.36 | Silviu- | Ahm |
| 13:25.38 | Silviu- | Oky |
| 13:25.39 | Vasarius | Is it normal that AG Unitframe add a "dead spot" in the middle? Where you cant click and turn camera around or talk to NPC's standing there. |
| 13:26.12 | xyu | mages water ele is so retarded sometimes :( |
| 13:26.20 | xyu | keeps changing targets on me |
| 13:26.29 | xyu | whenever i get CC'd it'll stop attacking its target |
| 13:26.50 | cncfanatics | buggy ftw |
| 13:27.27 | Amadeo | How do Frost Mages PvP? what do they cast? |
| 13:28.01 | Vasarius | Frost Nova. Frostball. Ice Lance. . . Fire Blast ofc. |
| 13:28.30 | Amadeo | How do you have time to Frost bolt? |
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| 13:28.41 | Vasarius | But does anyone know how to remove this "Dead spot"? |
| 13:28.52 | Vasarius | After a Poly or when a melee class is stuck in Frost Nova. |
| 13:28.58 | Silviu- | http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080507162834jg0.jpg |
| 13:29.08 | Keya | http://schriner.de/img/wow/screenshots/keya/WoWScrnShot_052907_221614-aguf.jpg |
| 13:29.13 | Keya | http://schriner.de/img/wow/screenshots/keya/WoWScrnShot_071507_200454-pitbull.jpg |
| 13:29.57 | Amadeo | rofl, what's with Aileen? |
| 13:30.14 | Silviu- | He test something don`t know what ^^ |
| 13:30.32 | Amadeo | what tooltip are you using? |
| 13:30.43 | Silviu- | Ahm a new one sec |
| 13:30.47 | Silviu- | Just got it today |
| 13:30.47 | Vasarius | Oookay dosnt seem to be AG Unitframe who cause it. |
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| 13:31.00 | Silviu- | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/8709/ |
| 13:31.06 | Silviu- | Tiptac or so |
| 13:31.11 | Silviu- | Verry small and cute |
| 13:31.11 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 13:31.17 | Amadeo | Keya: Looks good also |
| 13:31.37 | Vasarius | Not Bartender either :s Wtf is doing it then? :s Anyone ever tryed it |
| 13:31.52 | Vasarius | Having a complete dead spot in the middle of the screen around your character |
| 13:32.07 | BankZ | Does VoiceFU work? |
| 13:32.11 | Keya | I'd guess it's a hidden button |
| 13:32.15 | BankZ | diesnt seem too |
| 13:32.21 | BankZ | but maybe a config probelm |
| 13:32.40 | Keya | Bankz: don't think it does |
| 13:33.04 | BankZ | k |
| 13:33.14 | BankZ | it would be nice to see whos talking in vent |
| 13:33.19 | Silviu- | Vasarius try /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 13:33.32 | Vasarius | while holding over it? |
| 13:33.48 | Silviu- | yup |
| 13:34.06 | Vasarius | Aaahhh |
| 13:34.18 | Vasarius | "TotemGardenHidden"... Never figured what the command that that addon was >-.< |
| 13:34.21 | Vasarius | >_<* |
| 13:34.34 | BankZ | So is there a new bartender coming? Doesnt seem like there has been few features in a while |
| 13:34.48 | Vasarius | Well ofc /totemgarden but forgot about it |
| 13:35.09 | cncfanatics | BankZ, request features then |
| 13:35.09 | [dRaCo] | BankZ: bt4 is in development, yes. |
| 13:35.32 | BankZ | [dRaCo]: beta available? :) |
| 13:35.39 | Silviu- | But lately i did not see any commits to it :) nev sleeps ;p |
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| 13:36.05 | [dRaCo] | afaik not, BankZ |
| 13:36.10 | BankZ | bummer |
| 13:37.33 | Silviu- | Amadeo give me suggestions about my ui is ok so ? ;) |
| 13:37.59 | Vasarius | Hmm a friend of mine just told me "Bartender3" is bugged so that everything in bar 1-4 suddently get completety disabeled? |
| 13:38.10 | Vasarius | After some time |
| 13:38.29 | [dRaCo] | never heard of that, been using it since bc came out |
| 13:38.35 | vhaarr | Vasarius: If that was the case, we'd have heard about it before. |
| 13:38.36 | [dRaCo] | never happened to me |
| 13:38.36 | Silviu- | Me too |
| 13:38.45 | Silviu- | and it works normal ;) |
| 13:38.49 | vhaarr | Vasarius: your friends problem is not related to BT3. |
| 13:39.16 | BankZ | How does Bongos compart to bartender? |
| 13:39.33 | [dRaCo] | bongos petbar used to bug, dunno if it still does |
| 13:39.57 | Vasarius | Oki :) |
| 13:40.00 | vhaarr | tuller comes here from time to time, ask him |
| 13:40.08 | Keya | BankZ: I think an addon that doesn't change much is a good sign as in: it's stable. |
| 13:40.36 | Keya | (at least in this case) |
| 13:41.25 | Amadeo | I like Bongos |
| 13:42.03 | BankZ | Keya: Depends on if it has the features you want |
| 13:42.20 | Amadeo | Silviu-: Yeah it looks good, but suggestions on a UI layout isn't really possible...it's a personal thing..if it works for you, then it's right :) |
| 13:42.35 | Silviu- | Oky thx ^^ |
| 13:43.18 | hamunaptra | personally, I'm still crying over all the Discord stuff... |
| 13:44.30 | Keya | BankZ: I used to have a number of patches for aguf which were oc a pain to reapply when aguf was having a new release very often |
| 13:44.45 | Silviu- | Nah i never used it and i`ll never will :) |
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| 13:45.47 | hamunaptra | groupbuttons just to be really handy... and I haven't seen a decent replacement yet... |
| 13:46.31 | Keya | until patch 2.0 I used to get along fine with ct_mod only (for ui features), i guess it is really personal style weather you need those feature rich ui enhancements |
| 13:46.38 | Amadeo | I think the click casting addons replaced those buttons |
| 13:46.59 | Vasarius | Hmm some addon that can move the whole MOB INFO window? |
| 13:47.27 | Dustwhisper| | the reason i mod my UI is simple |
| 13:47.34 | Dustwhisper| | it looks better which makes me feel better when i play |
| 13:48.36 | Silviu- | Hmm what is wrong with dev.wowace.com and svn.wowace.com ? ;) |
| 13:49.02 | BankZ | Anyone know of an addon that will change my default chat, like when I logon switch to guild chat and when I join a raid, switch to raid |
| 13:49.13 | BankZ | like a prat plugin or something |
| 13:51.30 | hamunaptra | bankz: sounds like a 10 liner to me^^ |
| 13:52.01 | Vasarius | Hmm with Unitframe. Cant you remove the whole "Healthbar tuning red" when going into combat? |
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| 13:54.14 | BankZ | hamunaptra: give me the 10 lines then :) |
| 13:54.18 | Dustwhisper| | that is aggro monitor |
| 13:54.28 | Dustwhisper| | i wish you could disable the healthbar alpha/fade when taking damage in agUf though |
| 13:54.31 | Dustwhisper| | sure you can but no idea how |
| 13:54.37 | Dustwhisper| | just want a static color nomatter how much HP you have |
| 13:56.14 | hamunaptra | bankz: gotta go^^ |
| 13:56.38 | Vasarius | Argh damn annoring bug. If you disable Castbar on target it kinda apear anyway as faded yellow bar when they cast and then a GREEN screaming color after |
| 13:57.48 | hamunaptra | is there any kind of configurable cast bar (what I'm casting myself) that I can put in the middle of the screen? its annoying to always have to look at the unit frame... (using pitbull) |
| 13:58.01 | vhaarr | Quartz |
| 13:58.20 | Vasarius | Ecastingbar? |
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| 13:58.42 | [dRaCo] | Quartz. |
| 13:59.29 | hamunaptra | ok, i'll have a look :) |
| 13:59.36 | BankZ | Quartz is very cool |
| 14:00.11 | Vasarius | Okayokay 3 vs 1 xD Ecasting do the trick for me anyway |
| 14:00.19 | Dustwhisper| | quartz |
| 14:01.35 | Matrix110 | oh they copy SCL |
| 14:01.41 | Matrix110 | in 2.4 |
| 14:01.43 | xyu | are there any ace2 addons that will queue first available for me when i click the Battlemaster |
| 14:01.48 | xyu | and take the queue when it comes up |
| 14:02.13 | xyu | similar to titanBG |
| 14:02.32 | [dRaCo] | check automaton |
| 14:02.56 | xyu | kk, i'll check, i tried minimilist but to no avail |
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| 14:03.30 | xyu | there's an A in there somewhere :D |
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| 14:08.29 | Borked|Raider | hmm that combatlog thing in 2.4 i dont get whats changed? its event bases atm aswell aint it? |
| 14:08.33 | Borked|Raider | based |
| 14:08.58 | vhaarr | Parser-type libraries will be obsoleted by some new events. |
| 14:09.12 | xyu | I dont know but i dont like combat logs. itry to add up the damage i receive and it NEVER adds up to my total HP |
| 14:09.14 | xyu | in Pvp |
| 14:09.48 | Iceroth | the hit that kills you can be creater than HP you have left |
| 14:09.58 | Diao | combat logs are a little lagged |
| 14:10.01 | Iceroth | greater.. |
| 14:10.08 | Diao | usually the hit that kills you shows up after the line that says you die |
| 14:10.17 | Iceroth | also, what's up with dev. and svn.wowace.com? |
| 14:10.27 | vhaarr | no idea |
| 14:10.31 | hamunaptra | it's slighty dead^^ |
| 14:10.33 | vhaarr | ~seen mikk |
| 14:10.40 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 2h 17m 8s ago, saying: 'wow bootloader .. muaha'. |
| 14:11.18 | xyu | doesn't it register the HIT not the hp that gets taken away? |
| 14:11.42 | vhaarr | yes it does |
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| 14:17.34 | Qaarh | So.. Anyone know who's currently working on GarbageFu? |
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| 14:19.37 | BankZ | Is there an addon that will print your heals (including hot ticks) to a chat window and include overheals. Kinda like SCT does but to a chat window |
| 14:20.01 | hamunaptra | swstats + report... should do it |
| 14:20.22 | hamunaptra | or do you want them as they come? |
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| 14:21.25 | BankZ | yeah |
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| 14:22.55 | cncfanatics | overhealing HoT ticks can not be displayed |
| 14:22.59 | cncfanatics | at least not if they're total overheals |
| 14:24.57 | BankZ | SCT shows it |
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| 14:28.08 | Jaxon | BankZ: I believe SWStat's Unilog might do what you want. |
| 14:28.16 | BankZ | Is there a way to get SCT to show the final heal from a lifebloom? |
| 14:28.27 | BankZ | How do you bring up unit log? |
| 14:30.54 | cncfanatics | could not connect to server (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 14:30.56 | cncfanatics | svn down ? |
| 14:31.03 | vhaarr | yes |
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| 14:31.15 | cncfanatics | bleh |
| 14:31.44 | BankZ | Jaxon: How do you show the SWS Unit Log? |
| 14:34.17 | cncfanatics | is there an equivalent for PickupAction but for spells instead ? |
| 14:34.27 | cncfanatics | if I want to pickup a spell from the spellbook manualy, how to do that ? |
| 14:37.23 | BankZ | cncfanatics: I just want the info shown by SCT for heals in a log window |
| 14:44.04 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 14:44.11 | cncfanatics | dont know of any addon doing that |
| 14:44.13 | cncfanatics | but shouldnt be very hard |
| 14:44.19 | cncfanatics | as a last resort, use scl |
| 14:44.26 | cncfanatics | and configure it to use frame 1 as combatlog |
| 14:44.30 | cncfanatics | but to only output heals |
| 14:44.47 | cncfanatics | btw, anyone, whats the /cast format to cast a spell of different ranks ? |
| 14:44.51 | BankZ | Is there an addon that will print your heals (including hot ticks) to a chat window and include overheals. Kinda like SCT does but to a chat window |
| 14:44.53 | BankZ | errr |
| 14:44.55 | BankZ | sorry |
| 14:45.00 | BankZ | scl, let me look |
| 14:45.34 | cncfanatics | scl is a combatlog addon, can output everything |
| 14:45.40 | cncfanatics | just set it up to only output heals |
| 14:45.47 | cncfanatics | search for simplecombatlog |
| 14:45.52 | loonacy | You could look into eavesdrop as well. |
| 14:46.13 | cncfanatics | both will work indeed |
| 14:46.16 | BankZ | ohhh, Simple Combat Log |
| 14:46.17 | BankZ | I got it |
| 14:46.42 | loonacy | Eavesdrop is kind of like SCT or Parrot, except it's a mini chat frame instead of floating text. |
| 14:46.52 | BankZ | hmmm, can u have SCL show diffrent things to different windows |
| 14:47.43 | Silviu- | Eavesdrop is cute |
| 14:48.03 | cncfanatics | BankZ, yes |
| 14:48.39 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 14:48.42 | cncfanatics | nvm |
| 14:49.26 | BankZ | I will play around with SCL more, I have it showing the default stuff |
| 14:49.44 | BankZ | if you send it to a tab, it doesnt matter what you select for the tab to show, right? |
| 14:50.18 | cncfanatics | ofc it does :p |
| 14:50.44 | BankZ | I though SCT supressed that data |
| 14:50.52 | BankZ | and used its own options |
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| 14:52.04 | cncfanatics | SCL when u enable it on a tab will disable all output except combatlog |
| 14:52.07 | cncfanatics | just reenable it |
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| 14:52.19 | dodga | ha, finally I claim my real nickname :o |
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| 14:54.12 | cncfanatics | how can one find out what spell / item / whatever is on the cursor WITHOUT putting it in an actionslot ? |
| 14:56.42 | loonacy | GetCursorInfo()? |
| 14:57.35 | Gagorian | Yeah, GetCursorInfo() returns the action type and spell ID |
| 14:57.37 | loonacy | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCursorInfo |
| 14:57.40 | Gagorian | "spell", xx, "spell" |
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| 15:01.38 | BankZ | Eavesdrop seems to be what I want but I cant get it to show only heals |
| 15:02.03 | BankZ | and cant get it to show over heals |
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| 15:02.12 | BankZ | well, it shows the total amount |
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| 15:02.24 | BankZ | but doesnt mark how much is heal and how muhc is over |
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| 15:08.09 | BankZ | Eavesdrop doesnt seem to show me more info than what I can get from the comat log |
| 15:08.42 | Shirik | there is nothing that can give you more info than what you can get from the combat log |
| 15:08.50 | Shirik | but how it presents it may be nice |
| 15:08.55 | vhaarr | sure there is |
| 15:09.09 | Shirik | the combat log has every combat event and a text equivalent |
| 15:09.35 | vhaarr | yeah, but it doesn't have information on the state of other things which might be relevant at the time of the events |
| 15:09.57 | Shirik | right, but that's not more info, that's just presenting it differently |
| 15:10.34 | Shirik | For example, if you're looking for the presence of a buff when a spell is cast, the combat log would show it in between "foo gains ___" and "___ fades from foo" |
| 15:10.48 | Shirik | whereas an addon might present it in a much more user-friendly manner |
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| 15:12.24 | BankZ | Shirik: thats why I use SCL |
| 15:12.50 | BankZ | but I just want to see the overhealing stuff, I wish I could dump SCT to a chat/log |
| 15:13.20 | Shirik | you can get that from the combat log :) |
| 15:13.23 | Shirik | it just would take a ton of math |
| 15:13.28 | Shirik | and be completely impractical |
| 15:14.12 | Shirik | Assume the player has 2k health. "Foo hits player for 500" "Your Greater Heal heals player for 700" |
| 15:14.12 | Shirik | overheal of 200 :) |
| 15:14.26 | Shirik | (just to prove my point) But yes that would be a nice addition to a combat log addon |
| 15:14.36 | BankZ | you cant get it from the combat log cuz you dont know the heal of the person healed |
| 15:14.58 | Shirik | sure you do, you just need to add up all the damage taken before |
| 15:15.06 | Shirik | subtract from their max health |
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| 15:19.33 | Shirik | =string.sub("foo", 1, 200) |
| 15:19.34 | Shirik | oop |
| 15:22.16 | BankZ | Shirik: how does SCT do it? |
| 15:22.34 | Shirik | SCT does it by checking UnitHealth() when getting the heal event, iirc |
| 15:23.08 | Shirik | which is the obvious solution |
| 15:23.11 | Shirik | not by doing all that math |
| 15:24.52 | krka | anyone had a problem with screen turning slightly more grayish in game after a while? |
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| 15:25.39 | Laric | how should I use ScheduleLeaveCombatAction ? I want to schedule a function to be called on leaving combat |
| 15:25.54 | Fin | my fubar plugin keeps resetting its position |
| 15:26.09 | Shirik | respond to PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED ? |
| 15:26.19 | Shirik | (is ScheduleLeaveCombatAction some ace library function?) |
| 15:26.25 | Fin | don't suppose anyone would know offhand why that might be? (I'm hoping it's a common thing) |
| 15:26.39 | Shirik | fin: Do you keep pressing the reset button? |
| 15:26.57 | vhaarr | Shirik: it's some bullshit stuff that was added to AceEvent to make it "easier" for addons that need to manipulate secure frames |
| 15:27.07 | vhaarr | like it's hard to register for PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED |
| 15:27.07 | Shirik | ah |
| 15:27.14 | Shirik | yeah it can be a little annoying |
| 15:27.47 | Shirik | but, it's not too bad |
| 15:27.58 | Shirik | I guess if you don't want to go making a frame and all that |
| 15:28.02 | Shirik | if all you need is that one event |
| 15:28.20 | vhaarr | if you use AceEvent, you don't need to make a frame anyway |
| 15:28.25 | Shirik | but yeah Laric I don't know anything about that function, but if you want to, you can use PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED |
| 15:28.25 | vhaarr | so the point is void |
| 15:28.49 | Fin | ckknight_: ping |
| 15:32.12 | Laric | vhaarr how can I see if I am in combat lockdown then?` |
| 15:32.27 | Shirik | Laric: InCombatLockdown() is better for that purpose |
| 15:32.35 | Laric | thanks |
| 15:32.42 | Shirik | technically, at PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED, you still aren't in lockdown |
| 15:32.46 | vhaarr | better than what, there's no alternative |
| 15:32.46 | Shirik | you lock down after that event is finished |
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| 15:33.01 | Shirik | I know some people that have watched for combat to check for lockdown |
| 15:33.04 | vhaarr | indeed, and there are proper lockdown events as well |
| 15:33.11 | Shirik | oh yeah I forgot about those |
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| 15:35.05 | vhaarr | but they're never used anyway, since PRD and PRE are triggered before/after the fact anyway |
| 15:36.59 | Shirik | lol, apparently there's a new medical term "cybercondriac" |
| 15:37.15 | Shirik | Someone whom is addicted to the internet |
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| 15:38.09 | BankZ | I have a chat tab I cant delet (chat tab 4) is there a slash command to show it? |
| 15:38.54 | Fin | what do you mean, you can't delete it? |
| 15:39.03 | Shirik | mm, /script ChatFrame4:Show() ? |
| 15:39.07 | BankZ | THe window always show |
| 15:39.19 | Shirik | though they aren't always in order |
| 15:39.21 | Shirik | it will take some trial and error |
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| 15:39.59 | BankZ | I want to delete it |
| 15:41.59 | Shirik | are your frames locked? |
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| 15:49.51 | BankZ | yeah, I just hide it |
| 15:49.59 | BankZ | its just odd |
| 15:50.14 | BankZ | I wish prat let me set the fade time for each window |
| 15:51.43 | Fin | wish harder |
| 15:51.48 | Fin | I hear fairies |
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| 15:53.40 | earthbane | is dev.wowace.com down for anyone else? |
| 15:54.21 | Saroz | SVN is down |
| 15:54.28 | Shirik | yup |
| 15:54.35 | Diao | if you want to delete it |
| 15:54.36 | Silviu- | both dev and svn are down |
| 15:54.40 | earthbane | good times |
| 15:54.43 | Saroz | eeeek |
| 15:54.45 | Diao | just logout and go to your wtf folder in your character's specific folder |
| 15:54.51 | Diao | and modify the chat-cache and layout-cache |
| 15:55.13 | Fin | make sure they're not read-only as well |
| 15:58.03 | NimbleRabit | is there a way to use a NS/HT macro with clique? I tried to do it myself but it always casts it on me |
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| 16:00.05 | cncfanatics | NibleRabit |
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| 16:00.26 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.31 | cncfanatics | that casts a spell on ur mouseover target |
| 16:02.33 | NimbleRabit | ahh ok thanks |
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| 16:34.59 | lapalapa | guys can anyone one tell me why i cant ready svn.wowace.com? |
| 16:35.11 | lapalapa | read* |
| 16:35.25 | Shirik | it's down |
| 16:35.30 | lapalapa | ahh good |
| 16:35.36 | lapalapa | i was afraid something is wrong with me |
| 16:35.41 | Fisker- | that's good? |
| 16:35.52 | lapalapa | yes! imagine if it was all about my insanity |
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| 16:36.33 | Fisker- | well you saved it while i was writing :( |
| 16:36.51 | lapalapa | and mirror on renchap.com is for /files only i guess |
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| 16:37.02 | lapalapa | oh well, avion gonna wait a bit more |
| 16:38.56 | dodga | Noooooo we needs teh Avion! |
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| 16:39.35 | lapalapa | yes indeed, but only SVN version is up, and author made options available |
| 16:39.39 | lapalapa | so i decided to check it out |
| 16:40.31 | dodga | What! It got options? I thought Sirow is gonna make it some kind of SinkLib plugin thingie.. thing |
| 16:41.52 | lapalapa | well his recent post says he made options |
| 16:41.59 | lapalapa | but they are still on svn only =( |
| 16:43.35 | lapalapa | btw any eta on SVN? |
| 16:45.31 | Ominous | what is actually being done to the svn? |
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| 16:49.46 | vhaarr | nothing, it's down |
| 16:50.52 | *** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began | SVN down |
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| 16:55.13 | Fisker- | man |
| 16:55.17 | Fisker- | i love this moment sooooo much |
| 16:55.25 | Fisker- | i'm gonna marry it and father a lot of small moments |
| 16:55.41 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 16:55.52 | Fisker- | ID Software decided to break the GPL on a piece of software :P |
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| 16:56.25 | Shirik | who's ID Software? |
| 16:56.27 | Knaledge | Is there a way in Chatzilla to have the userlist on the right side of the chat frame? |
| 16:56.31 | Fisker- | The creaters of Doom |
| 16:57.36 | vhaarr | Shirik: what are you, 13? |
| 16:57.52 | Shirik | uh.... |
| 16:57.56 | vhaarr | I suspect it was a joke though |
| 16:58.03 | Shirik | no? |
| 16:58.11 | vhaarr | heh |
| 16:58.34 | Fisker- | they're amongst the most known developers in the world |
| 16:58.37 | Knaledge | Blizzard, EA, Epic, id, Kush/2K, and Ubisoft |
| 16:58.54 | Knaledge | Those are the only names one need concern oneself with |
| 16:59.28 | Knaledge | (3rd party anyhow) |
| 16:59.43 | Knaledge | Bioware soon |
| 16:59.50 | Knaledge | and Bethseda eventually |
| 16:59.55 | Knaledge | *Bethesda |
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| 17:01.52 | Knaledge | Oh |
| 17:01.59 | Knaledge | vhaar: did you get my message(s)? |
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| 17:03.35 | RogueShadow | ID did wa? |
| 17:03.51 | RogueShadow | How can they do something bad, thier some of the few natively supporting linux |
| 17:04.30 | Shirik | so Fisker- |
| 17:04.42 | Shirik | I assume you have a link to an article or something |
| 17:05.04 | RogueShadow | that would be good, i want to read it. |
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| 17:05.33 | Fisker- | only from the dosbox creators |
| 17:05.36 | Fisker- | and they're pissed :P |
| 17:05.45 | Fisker- | http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=16285 |
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| 17:06.08 | Fisker- | basically they have atleast rewritten some of the code as well as removed any reference to the GPL |
| 17:06.12 | Fisker- | if i remember correctly |
| 17:07.10 | Amadeo | so is BlizzCon over, or it runs through today? |
| 17:07.17 | Fisker- | it's over |
| 17:07.35 | Amadeo | I need a replay of the very last arena match :( |
| 17:10.57 | Amadeo | did anyone grab them? |
| 17:11.06 | Knaledge | check mmo champion |
| 17:11.20 | Knaledge | they have pretty much every video you'd need and links, etc. either on the main page or the forum |
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| 17:12.19 | Laric | sup with the svn? |
| 17:12.30 | Fisker- | it's down |
| 17:12.37 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:12.39 | Cryect | Fisker-: they broke the gpl on dosbox? |
| 17:12.42 | Fisker- | you can see it in the topic |
| 17:12.45 | Fisker- | yeah Cryect |
| 17:12.52 | Cryect | doesn't surprise me :-p |
| 17:13.01 | durcyn | can't see it in the topic, there are ten freaking URLs in the way |
| 17:13.04 | Amadeo | Knaledge: Nothing :/ |
| 17:13.15 | Shirik | I see a very serious lawsuit coming, tbh |
| 17:13.25 | Cryect | They hopefully will fix it and reminds me I still need to buy the id software pack |
| 17:13.25 | Shirik | What with the sale price and all |
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| 17:13.38 | Fisker- | nooo Cryect |
| 17:13.43 | Cryect | haha Fisker- |
| 17:13.45 | Fisker- | it's 62,95$ for all games i think |
| 17:13.48 | Cryect | yes |
| 17:14.01 | Cryect | as I said I need to buy it :-p |
| 17:14.05 | Fisker- | NO |
| 17:15.11 | Cryect | YES |
| 17:15.24 | Cryect | Curious what part of the GPL did they break |
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| 17:16.19 | Borked|Raider | posible to script a function that "press" a key, like F9 ect. Thinking if its posible to hook fraps start and stop to an event |
| 17:16.32 | Cryect | sure keybind |
| 17:16.32 | aen` | anyone know if that cam hack mod still exists? |
| 17:16.42 | Cryect | what to be more specific on cam hack mod |
| 17:16.49 | aen` | increases range |
| 17:16.51 | Cryect | yes |
| 17:16.53 | aen` | of camera at max distance |
| 17:16.58 | Cryect | you can do it manually though |
| 17:17.03 | Amadeo | I hacked your mom's webcam |
| 17:17.04 | Cryect | just set it to 50 the cvar |
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| 17:18.01 | aen` | in config.wtf? |
| 17:18.04 | Cryect | yeah |
| 17:18.06 | Shirik | or /console |
| 17:18.07 | Shirik | but yeah |
| 17:18.20 | Cryect | the cvar is pretty obviously named in there |
| 17:18.35 | aen` | aye |
| 17:18.39 | aen` | cameraDistanceMax |
| 17:18.45 | Cryect | yep! |
| 17:18.47 | Cryect | also |
| 17:18.53 | aen` | what about maxfactor? |
| 17:18.55 | Cryect | you can set the distance of some of your camera saved points |
| 17:19.02 | Cryect | maxfactor does something else |
| 17:19.06 | Cryect | forget what |
| 17:19.14 | aen` | i didnt have an entry for either |
| 17:19.15 | Cryect | I have like 2 of my cameras set to zoom out of like 300 and 500 |
| 17:19.18 | Cryect | useful for BG's |
| 17:19.19 | ckknight_ | Fin: pong |
| 17:19.21 | aen` | i had to create them, but i looked up the cvar for it |
| 17:19.56 | rubik | my cameraDistanceMaxFactor is set to 2.. hmm |
| 17:21.01 | Cryect | MaxFactor I think has someting to do with movement or something |
| 17:21.04 | Cryect | not sure though |
| 17:21.17 | Cryect | either way doesn't matter |
| 17:22.24 | Dustwhisper| | maxfactor is a makeup brand =D |
| 17:22.26 | Dustwhisper| | oolololololol |
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| 17:23.28 | Punkie` | isn't it the makeup of makeup artists? |
| 17:24.05 | Amadeo | I didn't know guys followed makeup brands |
| 17:24.06 | Thorgard | Maybe it's Maybelline? |
| 17:25.51 | Fin | ckknight: can I add an option to FuBarPlugin-1.0 that lets you hide the tooltip title, please? |
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| 17:28.32 | Fin | oops |
| 17:29.50 | Fin | ckknight_: did you catch what I just asked? |
| 17:29.56 | ckknight_ | no |
| 17:30.06 | Shirik | 132:252:41 12‹Fin12› ckknight: can I add an option to FuBarPlugin-1.0 that lets you hide the tooltip title, please? |
| 17:30.24 | Fin | thanks Shirik |
| 17:30.29 | Shirik | =) |
| 17:30.32 | ckknight | I think that's in there already |
| 17:31.07 | Fin | there's a hideMenuTitle, but it doesn't affect the tooltip |
| 17:31.44 | Fin | I checked the code (Ominous did also to give credit), it always shows the title unless it's not set |
| 17:34.12 | Fin | ckknight: http://fin.pastey.net/71840 |
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| 17:39.46 | Hjalte | This is very strange. For some reason, when i try to interact with my tailoring panel, my game freezes... |
| 17:40.27 | art3mis | rticles in queue: 48 - 652.8mb - time left: ~06:07 |
| 17:40.58 | Fisker- | the Xel'Naga have returned |
| 17:41.02 | art3mis | i lurv my new sped boost |
| 17:41.45 | Fisker- | what speedboost are you talking about? |
| 17:42.10 | art3mis | somewhere magically my cable connection got boosted from 10mbit to 20mbit |
| 17:42.16 | Fisker- | kek |
| 17:42.44 | Diao | wow |
| 17:42.45 | Diao | where do you live |
| 17:42.49 | art3mis | nyc |
| 17:42.51 | Diao | oh |
| 17:42.53 | Diao | optimum? |
| 17:42.54 | Diao | i'm guessing |
| 17:42.55 | art3mis | yup |
| 17:42.58 | Diao | oh |
| 17:42.59 | Diao | i know why |
| 17:43.02 | Diao | it's because of fios |
| 17:43.05 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 17:43.14 | Diao | you guys are lucky on east coast |
| 17:43.21 | Diao | lots of competition so you get great speeds at low prices |
| 17:43.27 | art3mis | yeah the fios campaign is getting destroyed by optimum |
| 17:43.30 | art3mis | itshilarious |
| 17:43.30 | Diao | over on west coast it's all monopoly so we get shitty speeds at high prices |
| 17:43.36 | Diao | really? |
| 17:43.40 | Diao | i thought fios would be doing well |
| 17:43.51 | art3mis | yeah fios is offering the same thing forabout double the price of cable |
| 17:43.51 | Diao | i'd heard they just started offering 50mbps for $50 in some parts of ny |
| 17:43.57 | Diao | or were about to offer it |
| 17:44.08 | art3mis | plus they're adding a 2-5$surcharge next month |
| 17:44.17 | art3mis | its only 20mbit here |
| 17:44.41 | art3mis | with optimum i can upgrade from the 20 i have now to 30mbit for 10bucks |
| 17:44.47 | Diao | oh |
| 17:44.56 | Diao | yeah i heard because verizon was offering 5,10,30 speeds originally |
| 17:45.04 | art3mis | nods 5 is the besic |
| 17:45.07 | art3mis | basic |
| 17:45.22 | art3mis | but so many people hate verizon out here it hasnt caught on |
| 17:45.24 | Diao | then opt bumped theirs |
| 17:45.25 | Diao | to 30 |
| 17:45.28 | art3mis | plus its moreexpensive |
| 17:45.30 | Diao | and then verizon bumped it up to 50 |
| 17:45.34 | Diao | to compete |
| 17:46.00 | art3mis | the average hookup wait time in brookly for verizon is around 6 weeks |
| 17:46.07 | art3mis | for cable its 8 days |
| 17:46.37 | art3mis | plus they constantly come over and claim its hooked up without ever testing the lines or making sure its conneted and charge for a second visit out to correct thier initial screw up |
| 17:46.55 | Diao | ah |
| 17:47.12 | Gngsk | I live real close to D.C. comcast has lost a lot of business to fios |
| 17:47.29 | Fisker- | lol |
| 17:47.33 | art3mis | thats cuz comcast sucks ;P |
| 17:47.44 | Gngsk | heh, yeah |
| 17:47.50 | Gngsk | basically all there is out here though |
| 17:47.53 | Gngsk | cox, comcast and verizon |
| 17:48.10 | Diao | cox |
| 17:48.12 | Diao | sucks too |
| 17:48.12 | Diao | :( |
| 17:48.25 | Shirik | actually, cox is a lot better than it could be |
| 17:48.27 | Shirik | so don't complain |
| 17:48.36 | Shirik | I had cox for a while and I hated them, but then I moved down to florida and got BrightHouse |
| 17:48.53 | Diao | eh |
| 17:48.56 | Shirik | Then I realized cox is amazing, and BrightHouse deserves to... |
| 17:48.56 | Diao | cox is awesome customer service |
| 17:48.58 | Shirik | well yeah |
| 17:49.01 | Diao | but their actual service itself is terrible |
| 17:49.05 | Diao | like when i call in they fix stuff quick |
| 17:49.09 | Diao | but then after like 2 months |
| 17:49.16 | Diao | my speed goes from 10mbit to like |
| 17:49.17 | Diao | 3 |
| 17:49.19 | Shirik | really? I never had a problem with them tbh |
| 17:49.22 | Diao | and they hvae to come out and fix it again |
| 17:49.29 | Shirik | I mean, sure a few times, and they've had good customer service |
| 17:49.33 | Diao | and for some reason |
| 17:49.36 | Diao | they have terrible uptime |
| 17:49.40 | Shirik | but I don't really have any issues with them, had em for about 5 years now |
| 17:49.47 | earthbane | any eta on dev and svn? |
| 17:49.50 | Shirik | must just be a local thing for you, kinda sucks |
| 17:49.52 | Diao | yeah |
| 17:50.01 | Diao | i live at the border |
| 17:50.04 | Diao | of la/oc in california |
| 17:51.17 | Knaledge | woul it be possible to add an option to Omen for "Activate: [ ] Party, [ ] Raid" ? |
| 17:51.27 | Knaledge | I find it annoying that Omen activates in a 3 man party |
| 17:51.35 | Diao | i wish optimum online serviced california lol |
| 17:51.38 | Hjalte | Okay. This is very, very strange. Whenever i mouseover one of the create buttons of Bolt of Imbued Netherweave in my tailoring panel, my game freezes for 10 seconds. It doesnt happen to any other craft, though. Any ideas? |
| 17:52.09 | Diao | what mods do you use o; |
| 17:52.33 | Hjalte | A lot. But not any that should directly interfere with my trade ui, i think, Diao. |
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| 17:52.51 | Hjalte | It does however not happen with all addons disabled. Then it works fine. |
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| 17:53.06 | Diao | hm |
| 17:53.42 | Diao | have any mods that like |
| 17:53.42 | Diao | tell you what stuff is used in |
| 17:53.42 | Diao | or something |
| 17:54.02 | durcyn | Mendeleev |
| 17:54.13 | ccKep | man |
| 17:54.16 | ccKep | 1st time kael phase5 |
| 17:54.24 | ccKep | and maintank stayed in melee range during gravity lapse |
| 17:54.37 | Hjalte | Yeah, using Mendeleev, but I've tried turning off a few addons now, will see if any of them is the culprit. |
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| 17:55.48 | Diao | and there it goes again |
| 17:55.50 | Diao | :( |
| 17:56.01 | Amadeo | Frost Mages are stronger than I thought |
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| 17:58.11 | Diao | wow |
| 17:58.25 | Diao | there's 100mbps fios in arizona.. which is the middle of nowhere :( |
| 17:58.45 | Amadeo | really? |
| 17:58.47 | art3mis | the mafia needed a reliable feed at thier "safe house" |
| 17:58.56 | Diao | lol |
| 17:59.00 | Diao | yeah but it costs $180 a month |
| 17:59.01 | Diao | lol |
| 17:59.10 | Diao | too expensive :P |
| 17:59.19 | art3mis | you're thinking small |
| 17:59.20 | Amadeo | could be cheap depending on what you're allowed to use it for |
| 17:59.25 | art3mis | hehe yeah ama |
| 17:59.38 | art3mis | go buy a dvd/cd duplicator |
| 17:59.47 | art3mis | and leech/torrent like a mad man |
| 17:59.51 | art3mis | ya know what would be funny |
| 17:59.58 | Diao | lol |
| 18:00.00 | art3mis | is if they have a 10gb download limit each month |
| 18:00.05 | Diao | that would suck |
| 18:00.05 | Diao | haha |
| 18:00.19 | art3mis | blow through that in the first 10 mins |
| 18:00.26 | art3mis | watch tv the rest of the time |
| 18:00.55 | Amadeo | You'd have to find one hell of a torrent to get speeds like that |
| 18:01.02 | Diao | one torrent? |
| 18:01.09 | Diao | now you're thinking too small :P |
| 18:01.14 | art3mis | private torrents are fairly decent speeds |
| 18:01.18 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:01.20 | Diao | even on cable i usually have like 100 torrents running |
| 18:01.21 | Diao | >.> |
| 18:01.23 | art3mis | but you could leech from usenet too |
| 18:02.24 | kebinusan | I got my first dmca notice in the mail last week :-( |
| 18:02.42 | Diao | lol |
| 18:02.44 | Diao | a friend of mine |
| 18:02.53 | art3mis | i told you not to post Grannies Gone Wild" |
| 18:02.57 | Diao | got 2 emails from comcast telling him to delete some movie he'd downloaded |
| 18:03.05 | Diao | and fios just opened up in his area |
| 18:03.16 | art3mis | heh optimum runs under the same rule i do at my clients |
| 18:03.18 | Diao | so he was like "as soon as i get the third notice i'm switching to fios" |
| 18:03.26 | art3mis | if you monitor nothing you're not liable for anything |
| 18:03.30 | Diao | lol |
| 18:03.31 | Diao | qft |
| 18:03.57 | art3mis | i provide internet, what YOU do with that is your problem |
| 18:04.31 | Amadeo | kebinusan: From torrent use? |
| 18:04.54 | kebinusan | Amadeo, yeah something I started to download from a public tracker but never finished |
| 18:05.04 | Amadeo | What client are you using? |
| 18:05.07 | Amadeo | Just curious |
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| 18:05.30 | kebinusan | Torrentflux, python based html thing I run locally |
| 18:05.55 | Amadeo | Interesting |
| 18:06.26 | kebinusan | its nice I can access it remotely to start/stop torrents while Im away from my pc |
| 18:06.43 | Amadeo | I guess I just don't download enough |
| 18:06.56 | kebinusan | I use it for fansub anime more than anything |
| 18:07.32 | Diao | same lol |
| 18:07.35 | Diao | but i use utorrent |
| 18:07.39 | Diao | nice small footprint |
| 18:07.41 | Diao | even with like |
| 18:07.46 | Diao | 200 torrents running atm |
| 18:07.52 | Diao | it uses less than 25kb of mem |
| 18:08.25 | Amadeo | you mean mb? |
| 18:08.34 | Diao | uhh |
| 18:08.40 | Diao | right |
| 18:08.42 | Diao | lol |
| 18:08.43 | Amadeo | hehe |
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| 18:08.49 | Diao | right now |
| 18:08.53 | Diao | it's using 19mb |
| 18:09.00 | Diao | and that's with 218 torrents |
| 18:09.01 | Diao | >.> |
| 18:09.09 | kebinusan | yeah I havent found a decent torrent client for linux thats a desktop app, so I just went with some php thing |
| 18:09.11 | Diao | and it has a web interface if you enable it too! |
| 18:09.16 | Diao | ah |
| 18:09.22 | durcyn | you do know that recent versions of utorrent report the name of the torrent you're downloading back to the utorrent coders, yes? |
| 18:09.27 | durcyn | kebinusan: torrentflux? |
| 18:09.43 | Amadeo | durcyn: It's all been rumors so far |
| 18:09.46 | kebinusan | durcyn yeah thats what Im using |
| 18:09.54 | Amadeo | nobody has shown any evidence of it |
| 18:10.17 | Diao | what |
| 18:10.22 | Diao | i've never seen any rumors like that |
| 18:10.42 | Amadeo | it started because BitTorrent Inc bought out uTorrent |
| 18:10.48 | Amadeo | so honestly, who knows what's going on |
| 18:11.15 | dylanm | Wouldn't that be pretty easy to check? |
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| 18:11.28 | Hjalte | Oh, I found out what addon is causing my wow to freeze. KC_Items, but i guess Kaelten is on his way home from Blizzcon :\ |
| 18:11.37 | Diao | yeah it would |
| 18:11.42 | Saroz | give back SVN |
| 18:14.29 | Amadeo | I'm about to replay the greatest RPG of all time |
| 18:15.10 | haste | Baldur's Gate? |
| 18:16.16 | Amadeo | Yes :) |
| 18:16.17 | Amadeo | II |
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| 18:18.51 | Hjalte | But but... Final Fantasy VII is the greatest RPG of all time ;) |
| 18:18.59 | Gandharva | [2007/08/05 20:12:49-103-x1]: CowTip-r45289\Text\Text.lua:174: attempt to index local 'left' (a nil value) |
| 18:19.19 | Amadeo | Final Fantasy is the greatest kiddie game of all time! |
| 18:20.16 | Gandharva | FF VII was a grat game! |
| 18:20.22 | Gandharva | *great |
| 18:20.33 | Amadeo | if you like doing this: O.O |
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| 18:22.02 | Amadeo | anyway, bbiab ;) |
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| 18:22.17 | BankZ | can anyone else besides shieldb make changes to incubator? |
| 18:22.41 | vhaarr | yes |
| 18:23.31 | BankZ | I got a suggestion :) It would be nice if it could fade left to right |
| 18:23.39 | BankZ | rather than just right to left |
| 18:24.55 | break19 | !c us Tanaris Youza |
| 18:24.58 | ThraeBot | break19: Youza, Level 70 Human Rogue (45/2/13). 7154 HP; +10 Energy; 1050 AP; 197.1 Melee DPS; 17.17% melee crit; 59 melee hit; 65 defense; 16.29% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypwzwq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2l994p ]] |
| 18:25.27 | xb95 | !c us Feathermoon Dahneille |
| 18:25.30 | ThraeBot | xb95: Dahneille, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/5/56). 6789 HP; 9742 Mana; 280 mana regen; 138 mp5; 7390 Armour; 3.71% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 132 +spell dmg; 1517 +heal; 4.11% dodge; 5% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28xjva ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2t7t2y ]] |
| 18:25.51 | ccKep | YAY, DOWN |
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| 18:26.39 | kergoth | hm |
| 18:26.46 | kergoth | !c us Suramar Zebrin |
| 18:26.50 | ThraeBot | kergoth: Zebrin, Level 70 Troll Rogue (15/41/5). 7144 HP; 1476 AP; 341.2 Melee DPS; 27.49% melee crit; 193 melee hit; 26.52% dodge; 4 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xfvj3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p7v6v ]] |
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| 18:29.27 | rubik | yummilicious dodge % there.. my warrior would <3 to overpower spam you.. heh |
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| 18:35.56 | earthbane | !c us Hellscream Earthbane |
| 18:35.59 | ThraeBot | earthbane: Earthbane, Level 70 Tauren Druid (47/0/14). 6840 HP; 7790 Mana; 203 mana regen; 91 mp5; 80.5 Melee DPS; 2.2% melee crit; 162 spell crit; 49 spell hit; 595 +spell dmg/heal; 2.55% dodge; 11 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28cf3u ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33m58t ]] |
| 18:36.49 | earthbane | Still no ETA on dev and svn? |
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| 19:00.40 | [dRaCo] | 2007/08/05 21:01:16-216-x1]: Recount-$Revision: 45740 $\Recount.lua:442: attempt to call method 'FindOwner' (a nil value) |
| 19:01.03 | [dRaCo] | dunno how exactly to reproduce it |
| 19:01.09 | Gamefaq | this is fixed... |
| 19:01.35 | Gamefaq | but dev.svn is down, so the fix can not be uploaded |
| 19:01.59 | Cryect | Yeah I have several pet bug fixes waiting on the svn |
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| 19:06.53 | [dRaCo] | oh, ic. |
| 19:09.03 | phirephly | Got anyone on who can answer a food question? I'm working on a new mod. |
| 19:09.17 | phirephly | Ah, dammit. Dog aggro. Back in a bit |
| 19:11.13 | ckknight | food is tasty |
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| 19:12.15 | Amadeo | Dog food |
| 19:12.15 | Ominous | evening |
| 19:12.15 | phirephly | I want a mod that will just accept a "feed me" event of some sort and pick my "best" food (depending on my class) and feed it to me. |
| 19:12.51 | ckknight | King of the Jungle? |
| 19:13.00 | phirephly | I *don't* want to have to fiddlefart around with prioritizing my food *in game*. Isn't that a hunter mod? |
| 19:13.02 | BankZ | Is there a good program that will tell you whos talking in vent while in wow? |
| 19:13.08 | Amadeo | feed me seymour! |
| 19:13.35 | phirephly | I think I just got the name for my mod: "Seymour" |
| 19:13.41 | yacoob | that was a good movie, Amadeo :) |
| 19:13.55 | phirephly | Jack Nicholson's very first movie, at least the original was. |
| 19:14.03 | Amadeo | hehe |
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| 19:14.17 | ulic | BankZ: www.voice-overlay.info.ms, has been updated in a LONG time, but works well for me. |
| 19:14.34 | ulic | *hasn't |
| 19:14.42 | BankZ | ulic: I am running vista and it crashes all of the time |
| 19:14.51 | ulic | oh, install XP :) |
| 19:15.09 | phirephly | Vista < XP. |
| 19:17.23 | phirephly | Now, back to my food question. Is there already a food management mod *not for pets*. |
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| 19:18.09 | phirephly | Barring that, is there an ACE inventory mod that will tabulate what I have in my bags in a way that I can still see the tooltips? |
| 19:18.10 | ckknight | oh, you said Dog aggro so I figured pets |
| 19:18.14 | ckknight | Ace, not ACE |
| 19:18.47 | phirephly | It's ACE if I'm emphasizing that word. I know it's not an acronym. |
| 19:19.07 | ckknight | you shouldn't be yelling anyway |
| 19:19.41 | phirephly | Okay, Mr. Grammar police. Do you actually have an answer for me or to you troll this board looking for folks to piss on for fun? |
| 19:19.59 | ckknight | don't be a douchebag. |
| 19:20.07 | phirephly | Says you. That's pretty funny. |
| 19:20.08 | ckknight | seriously. |
| 19:20.20 | phirephly | Seriously. |
| 19:20.28 | ckknight | I don't have an answer for you, though |
| 19:20.32 | phirephly | K. |
| 19:20.55 | phirephly | Thank you for your scintillating addition to the conversation. Way to stay on track, there, buddy. |
| 19:21.16 | phirephly | Was that polite enough for you? |
| 19:21.23 | Amadeo | wtf? |
| 19:21.26 | ckknight | I still say he was a douchebag |
| 19:21.29 | Amadeo | lol |
| 19:21.58 | Amadeo | He has too many commas in that sentence |
| 19:22.12 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:22.41 | ckknight | I had a response to him, but he left before I could write it up :-P |
| 19:22.59 | Funkeh` | Don't lie ckknight |
| 19:23.07 | ramoz | But what would your answer me? |
| 19:23.26 | ckknight | was gonna say that he should respect the @ next to my name and that mistyping ACE was a common mistake that I try to fix |
| 19:23.37 | Punkie` | that guy was awesome |
| 19:25.41 | Punkie` | haha, fiddlefart, great. |
| 19:25.54 | ckknight | fiddlefart? |
| 19:25.55 | dylanm | He called it a board. A+. |
| 19:26.10 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 19:26.15 | Punkie` | :P |
| 19:26.17 | ckknight | and I'm such a troll |
| 19:26.25 | ckknight | ~tuplad |
| 19:26.25 | purl | http://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg |
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| 19:27.11 | Bam__ | Is dev.wowace.com down? |
| 19:27.24 | vhaarr | ckknight: hahaha, tuplad |
| 19:27.27 | vhaarr | ~seen tuplad |
| 19:27.29 | purl | tuplad <n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 280d 13h 50m 55s ago, saying: '=)'. |
| 19:27.32 | vhaarr | lol |
| 19:27.54 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
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| 19:32.23 | Amadeo | So are there any sites that recorded the video of the BlizzCon matches? |
| 19:32.34 | Funkeh` | lots on youtube |
| 19:32.46 | mikma | tuplad is not coming back. ever. :( |
| 19:32.49 | mikma | he got banned |
| 19:33.40 | ckknight | yea, he was a troll |
| 19:34.00 | Amadeo | Funkeh`: Yeah? I'll have to check |
| 19:34.02 | ckknight | similar to Fisker-, only that Fisker- occasionally has useful information, which is why he's put up with |
| 19:34.21 | xyu | i'm pretty useless |
| 19:34.33 | Fisker- | win |
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| 19:44.30 | kebinusan | bleh I should check and make sure the svn server is up before I try and update crap, now pitbull, carto and bigwigs at least are bjorked |
| 19:44.34 | kebinusan | guess I can download them from files |
| 19:47.52 | Arrowmaster | you need a better update script then |
| 19:48.08 | kebinusan | yeah Im editing it now |
| 19:48.14 | Arrowmaster | my svn up just failed and none of my shits broken |
| 19:48.35 | kebinusan | yeah I need to learn a bit more about bash |
| 19:48.51 | Arrowmaster | but i also copy all the directories back into their original directories before updating |
| 19:49.20 | kebinusan | hm, probably not a bad idea |
| 19:49.54 | Fisker- | Anyone know if there's a way i can have my server on irc without a terminal session? |
| 19:50.12 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: man screen |
| 19:50.17 | dreamss2 | screen bitchx |
| 19:50.20 | dreamss2 | ctrl vc ? |
| 19:50.27 | dreamss2 | OR |
| 19:50.30 | dreamss2 | use psybnc |
| 19:50.51 | Fisker- | no manual entry :I |
| 19:50.52 | dreamss2 | so how did prince douchfae get the gorehowl from ashenvale? |
| 19:51.08 | Fisker- | Anyways probably gotta make it a bit clearer |
| 19:51.20 | Keias | He has the ability to travel through time and space or something |
| 19:51.29 | Keias | By being the person who controls Karazhan |
| 19:51.35 | Fisker- | it's a ssh session, just looking for some service or something i can have running and then call up even after logoff |
| 19:51.39 | Keias | So his excuses are pretty limitless |
| 19:51.41 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think psybnc stayed connected if you disconnected since its just a bouncer not a proxy |
| 19:52.00 | dreamss2 | psybnc stays opn irc all the time |
| 19:52.06 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: screen --help, and if that doesnt work figure out why the fuck you dont have screen |
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| 19:52.17 | dreamss2 | Fisker-, do screen whateverirc client |
| 19:52.20 | Cheads | Fisker- use screen |
| 19:52.27 | dreamss2 | then kill ur ssh session |
| 19:52.31 | dreamss2 | then screen -r |
| 19:52.34 | dreamss2 | and ur money |
| 19:52.35 | Fisker- | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 19:52.35 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.38 | Fisker- | :P |
| 19:52.40 | Cheads | ;O) |
| 19:52.50 | Arrowmaster | ok now you can do man screen |
| 19:53.14 | dreamss2 | http://www.rackaid.com/resources/linux-tutorials/general-tutorials/linux-screen.cfm |
| 19:54.00 | Fisker- | thanks :P |
| 19:54.05 | Pkekyo | anyone know a good way to create spatter in photoshop? |
| 19:54.56 | Fin | ckknight: what do you reckon about that little FuBarPlugin change? |
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| 19:57.34 | Knaledge | !c us Arygos Knaledge |
| 19:57.37 | ThraeBot | Knaledge: Knaledge, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (15/41/5). 7694 HP; 1207 AP; 283.3 Melee DPS; 26.75% melee crit; 76 melee hit; 30.17% dodge; 10 fire resist; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yt7ras ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ohhfr ]] |
| 19:58.17 | dreamss2 | Keias, thrall took the demons armor but not the dudes axe? |
| 19:58.31 | Knaledge | !c us Arygos Shadent |
| 19:58.34 | ThraeBot | Knaledge: Shadent, Level 66 Night Elf Rogue (15/37/5). 7227 HP; 980 AP; 234.8 Melee DPS; 30.74% melee crit; 54 melee hit; 32.82% dodge; 20 shadow resist; 35 fire resist; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2g4b4y ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32j8fn ]] |
| 19:58.48 | Keias | Lots of plot holes in WoW :P |
| 19:59.20 | dreamss2 | they bothered to recrete the event in nagrand |
| 19:59.25 | dreamss2 | but not fix the lore? |
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| 20:03.29 | binder | rogue 2's arena maces or daggers? |
| 20:04.02 | [dRaCo] | if combat, I'd go for maces |
| 20:05.04 | [dRaCo] | but mutilate is fun, too, due to its increbidly fast combo point generation |
| 20:05.22 | binder | I've got the gladiator maces and a druid partner |
| 20:05.32 | binder | but I have like no burst damage |
| 20:05.50 | ramoz | Hm |
| 20:06.04 | ramoz | Cryect: get some FindOwner error when i joined a raid (with recount) |
| 20:06.21 | [dRaCo] | ramoz: already fixed, but the svn is down. |
| 20:06.37 | [dRaCo] | I'd stick with 'em, then... I like mace stun |
| 20:06.53 | ramoz | [dRaCo]: ah ok |
| 20:10.53 | Cryect | fix the svn and you get your fix :-p |
| 20:10.57 | Cryect | plus some new stuff |
| 20:11.06 | Arrowmaster | hmm i have a serious problem |
| 20:11.27 | Arrowmaster | i installed sloukens EditingUI mod and now i cant do anything |
| 20:11.42 | Arrowmaster | cant get excape menu to quit and cant get chatbox to type /quit |
| 20:11.46 | Cryect | haha |
| 20:11.47 | [dRaCo] | alt-f4 |
| 20:11.57 | Cryect | he said it wasn't fully 2.1.3 compatible :-p |
| 20:12.07 | Arrowmaster | i can see why now..... |
| 20:12.17 | Cryect | I thought he said it was just something with keybindings though |
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| 20:14.00 | Shirik | damn you, nickserv, I demand you identify me! |
| 20:14.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:14.30 | Cryect | Have in Recount now the ability to store up the 10 last fights (with that number adjustable later) |
| 20:15.28 | Pkekyo | anyone know a good way to create spatter in photoshop? |
| 20:16.04 | Amadeo | That's about all I can create in any photo application |
| 20:16.14 | Amadeo | It's like finger painting for me |
| 20:16.25 | Cryect | Not off top my head I kinda remember how to create raindrops when I was working on a raindrop shader |
| 20:16.37 | xyu | if a plugin can't do it for me, i can't do it |
| 20:16.38 | Cryect | but that doesn't help you |
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| 20:16.42 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 20:16.50 | Arrowmaster | fuck |
| 20:16.50 | Cryect | its kinda the same but not quite |
| 20:16.58 | Amadeo | I used to know how to make a nice wine glass in 3DSMax, but no more :P |
| 20:17.05 | Arrowmaster | i just restarted wow and forgot to turn off EditingUI before hitting enter world |
| 20:17.18 | Cryect | could use these http://www.bittbox.com/freebies/free-hi-res-splatter-photoshop-brushes/ |
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| 20:18.49 | Pkekyo | I've tried with a selection of grunge brushes, but the spatter always gets too transparent |
| 20:19.59 | Cryect | adjust the pressure? |
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| 20:21.09 | Pkekyo | doesn't have high enough effect without it all turning fugly |
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| 20:22.48 | lapalapa | any news about svn ? |
| 20:23.19 | Cryect | need kaelten |
| 20:26.21 | Funkeh` | Kaelten isn't back till tuesday |
| 20:26.22 | Funkeh` | so hf |
| 20:26.43 | ckknight | ~seen pastamancer |
| 20:26.45 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #wowi-lounge (5d 5h 5m 21s) #wowace (5d 5h 5m 21s). Has said a total of 45 messages. Is idling for 1d 23h 16m 3s, last said: 'hilarious'. |
| 20:27.41 | earthbane | Does anyone here know what's up with svn & dev? |
| 20:27.50 | [dRaCo] | down. |
| 20:28.09 | earthbane | I can see that. Why is it down and is there an eta to it being back up? |
| 20:28.24 | ckknight | well, it's down because you touch yourself at night |
| 20:28.26 | Funkeh` | earthbane: would it kill you to read a few lines up? |
| 20:28.30 | [dRaCo] | it's down because. and no. ^^" |
| 20:28.42 | Shirik | it's the flux capacitor |
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| 20:30.32 | earthbane | Funkeh: scroling up gives me nothing about svn |
| 20:30.41 | earthbane | so what am I missing |
| 20:30.52 | Funkeh` | lapalapa>any news about svn ? |
| 20:30.56 | Funkeh` | Cryect>need kaelten |
| 20:31.24 | lapalapa | ohh |
| 20:31.26 | Funkeh` | exactly 6 lines above your question |
| 20:31.26 | lapalapa | i see now |
| 20:32.01 | earthbane | thanks. Why not put somehthing in the topic about it then |
| 20:32.33 | Funkeh` | ckknight sucks thats why |
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| 20:39.01 | Shirik | earthbane: You should probably look again |
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| 20:42.11 | Funkeh` | like i read the motd |
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| 20:47.25 | earthbane | Shirik: "SVN down" does not really answer what I'm looking for ot give a timetable |
| 20:47.53 | ulic | Kaelten is the svn admin |
| 20:47.59 | ckknight | no eta |
| 20:48.03 | [dRaCo] | svn is down, nobody knows why and nobody know when it'll be fixed. |
| 20:48.16 | ckknight | could be a few hours, could be a few days |
| 20:48.20 | ckknight | just make do while you can |
| 20:48.23 | Matrix110 | Kaelten was @Blizzcon |
| 20:48.30 | Fisker- | cool |
| 20:48.32 | ulic | "when it's done" as they like to say :) |
| 20:48.39 | Matrix110 | so he fixes it when hes up again orso |
| 20:48.40 | Fisker- | any cool stuff he got found out? |
| 20:48.44 | Matrix110 | no idea |
| 20:48.44 | Fisker- | err |
| 20:48.51 | Matrix110 | i just know that he was there |
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| 20:50.25 | Nickenyfiken | He was threating blizzard staff with a epic sword to get some funds for wowace.com. |
| 20:50.58 | Pkekyo | so Blizzard is really following through with this Death Knight shit? |
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| 20:51.33 | Pkekyo | great...9 millions identical characters, this will be a fun expansion... |
| 20:51.36 | Ky|Away | no, it was all an epic hoax for blizzcon |
| 20:51.38 | Ky|Away | ... |
| 20:51.59 | Pkekyo | I fucking hope so |
| 20:52.15 | Pkekyo | introducing ONE hero class is going to kill the game |
| 20:52.20 | dylanm | They can tank with two-handers it'll be so leeeet. |
| 20:52.36 | Fisker- | i've seen better |
| 20:52.45 | Fisker- | and that haven't killed the game yet |
| 20:53.02 | Pkekyo | the only class getting played by the 9mill+ subscribers will be Death Knight... |
| 20:53.16 | Fisker- | nah |
| 20:53.34 | Necrathex | as long as they don't outdmg rogues, i don't see the problem ^^ |
| 20:53.36 | Fisker- | will be same stuff like the paladin and shamans at TBC release |
| 20:53.53 | Kyahx | I have a feeling that they've probably put a decent amount of thought into Hero Classes...I doubt its going to "kill the game" |
| 20:53.54 | Fisker- | although when i get the quest i'll make one just because i can |
| 20:54.00 | Fisker- | hoping for free mount skills :P |
| 20:54.01 | Kyahx | People are just overracting, they always do |
| 20:54.33 | Pkekyo | Kyahx: important to point out: Hero Class* there's only one of them....wtb balance? |
| 20:54.43 | Kyahx | Im sure it won't be the last one |
| 20:55.04 | Kyahx | They will add more, plus I doubt they are going to be as powerful as people say...it'll just be another class |
| 20:55.12 | Kyahx | with a different game mechanic |
| 20:55.22 | Fisker- | i personally can't see the point if they don't add some por to them |
| 20:55.24 | dylanm | Runes... |
| 20:55.28 | Pkekyo | yeah, sure they will add more...but adding ONE hero class to the game, rather than two seems to me like a bad move |
| 20:55.45 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: por? |
| 20:55.47 | Necrathex | hero class doesn't automatically mean they're better than other classes |
| 20:55.51 | Necrathex | they just start at a high level |
| 20:56.23 | Pkekyo | Necrathex: 'cause that's so much better.... 9 million lvl 60 death knights running around at day one of the expansion |
| 20:56.27 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 20:56.29 | Fisker- | por = power |
| 20:56.39 | Fisker- | didn't sleep yesterday |
| 20:56.45 | Kyahx | It won't be day 1 |
| 20:56.51 | Necrathex | Pkekyo: you'll need to do a lvl80 questline before you can unlock them i think |
| 20:56.51 | Fisker- | should almost get to bed |
| 20:56.52 | Kyahx | People will have to get to 80, and then finish the quest |
| 20:56.57 | Fisker- | only 6 hours until i have to get up again |
| 20:57.31 | Pkekyo | tbh, I think it's a really bad way of implementing heroes... |
| 20:58.21 | Kyahx | and giving the horde paladins was also a really bad idea according to a lot of people...and adding gnomes was also a bad idea... |
| 20:58.22 | Pkekyo | would be much better to do a questline or whatev that would make your warrior a death knight...your mage a shadowmage...your lock a necromancer etc... |
| 20:58.44 | Pkekyo | paladins are nice to have...gnomes could burn beyond for all eternity for what I'm concerned... |
| 20:58.50 | Kyahx | Doing it this way opens up different Hero classes to all players, regaudless of what their main toon is |
| 20:59.14 | Kyahx | if it was class based, paladins would become death knights, not warriors |
| 20:59.33 | Pkekyo | I was just trying to make a point |
| 20:59.52 | art3mis | deathknights would be fallen paladins |
| 21:00.35 | art3mis | the only people complaining that giving horde pallys was a bad idea are alliance pvpers who have to now face a completely rigged class |
| 21:01.09 | art3mis | pkekyo: what about priests? |
| 21:01.13 | Pkekyo | Kyahx: sure, it's good to open up hero classes to all players, but this game REALLY needs divercity |
| 21:01.20 | art3mis | we're already the hero class based on that idear ;P |
| 21:01.21 | Kyahx | and they WILL add more? |
| 21:01.34 | Kyahx | Just because they've only announced one right now, dosent mean they don't have another one or two nearly complete |
| 21:01.39 | Pkekyo | yeah, but they start with adding only one...so much for divercity |
| 21:01.51 | Kyahx | they start with only ANNOUNCING one |
| 21:01.51 | art3mis | they added one thts been thought out |
| 21:01.55 | Kyahx | there is a difference |
| 21:01.57 | art3mis | its not in the game so it means shit |
| 21:02.40 | art3mis | the idea they would just crank out 6 hero classes is retarded since ALOT of the game mechanics has to still keep them sorta balanced, hero or not they shouldnt be able to tear through scholo solo in 15 mins just becauseof that |
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| 21:03.23 | art3mis | not to mention give them abilities and skills that arent just rehashes of the other class |
| 21:03.31 | Cryect | they are named hero so people stop asking about hero classes |
| 21:03.34 | Pkekyo | yeah, sure, but only one? give us two atleast so there's a selection |
| 21:03.36 | art3mis | and then test how the stand up in groupssolo and against other players |
| 21:03.48 | art3mis | they arent just giving you one |
| 21:03.52 | art3mis | stop being a moron |
| 21:03.59 | Kyahx | Pkekyo: how are you not getting this...there is only one announced right now, they will add more |
| 21:03.59 | art3mis | right now you've got NONE |
| 21:04.22 | art3mis | at expansion there will be more deathknight however is the only one that they are ready to talk about |
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| 21:04.29 | Kyahx | I fully expect them to have a second if not third class ready within weeks of the expansion's launch, if not at launch |
| 21:04.30 | Fisker- | oh yeah i'm gonna level a death knight to 80 and kill some barons |
| 21:04.41 | Fisker- | nymbia yesterday in spain, you forgot! |
| 21:04.57 | art3mis | notthe point fisker |
| 21:05.07 | art3mis | but thanks for your useless interjections as always ;P |
| 21:05.08 | Funkeh` | I love nymbia |
| 21:06.14 | Pkekyo | I'm a moron because I don't base my statements on assumptions? interesting... |
| 21:06.42 | Funkeh` | eh? |
| 21:08.06 | Kyahx | How is "Day 1 there will be 9 million death-knights" not an assumption |
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| 21:10.08 | Kyahx | :) |
| 21:10.22 | Pkekyo | yeah, sure, I assumed something...shoot me |
| 21:10.38 | Fisker- | ok |
| 21:11.04 | Pkekyo | point is...where's all this info about adding hero classes around launch coming from? |
| 21:11.46 | Kyahx | Well, they have said multiple times that they will be adding MORE classes, and otherwise I said "I fully expect..." maintining that it was my opinion, not fact |
| 21:11.50 | Pkekyo | at TBC it was "Two New Races" now it's "New Class Death Knight"... |
| 21:12.09 | Pkekyo | said when/where? |
| 21:12.18 | Fisker- | Kyahx they have actually said that they're not intended on releasing new hero classes until the next expansion |
| 21:12.25 | Fisker- | intending* |
| 21:12.29 | kebinusan | Tonights Raid: 15 Death Knights 5 paladin/Shaman |
| 21:12.34 | Kyahx | *shrug* |
| 21:12.45 | Kyahx | Honestly, the entire concept of Death Knight dosen't appeal to me |
| 21:12.52 | Kyahx | I won't be making one |
| 21:13.01 | kebinusan | I have a hard time leveling alts |
| 21:13.04 | kebinusan | because of the low level grind |
| 21:13.05 | kebinusan | s |
| 21:13.05 | Fisker- | yay we wins teh argument! |
| 21:13.09 | kebinusan | so a death knight appeals to me |
| 21:13.32 | Fisker- | I might have one, "just to have one" |
| 21:13.46 | Fisker- | if it's fun i might go back to being a dps or tank class |
| 21:13.53 | Fisker- | healer currently |
| 21:14.03 | Gngsk | you suck Fisker-! |
| 21:14.07 | Fisker- | fled the titanic on my rogue and made a paladin |
| 21:14.09 | kebinusan | of course Im a bit concerned that all its going to do is turn pvp into a world of melee/platecraft |
| 21:14.20 | Gngsk | should've stuck with rogue like I did :P |
| 21:14.26 | Fisker- | why? |
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| 21:14.34 | kebinusan | and keeping 25 man raids will make it even more difficult to balance raids adding a new class |
| 21:14.37 | Gngsk | to pwn with illidan gears! |
| 21:14.45 | mikma | 40 death knights vs 40 death knights av would be fun |
| 21:15.09 | Pheredhel | hi |
| 21:15.31 | Pheredhel | any eta for the svn, or just check back tomorrow? |
| 21:15.41 | Fisker- | no eta |
| 21:15.47 | Fisker- | kaelten isn't even online |
| 21:15.47 | Pheredhel | ok |
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| 21:17.09 | Pkekyo | mikma: no, not really |
| 21:17.28 | Necrathex | they can't heal, can they? |
| 21:17.37 | kebinusan | eta: sometime after blizzcon |
| 21:17.51 | Pkekyo | Necrathex: no |
| 21:18.00 | Pkekyo | wouldn't think so atleast...the wc3 one couldn't |
| 21:18.08 | Pkekyo | could reanimate dead and shit though |
| 21:18.12 | Necrathex | except for the draenei dk ofc :p |
| 21:18.44 | Pkekyo | btw, death knight will be available to all races? |
| 21:19.14 | Fisker- | Well i think they've implied it'll have some limited healing abillity as well |
| 21:19.22 | Fisker- | but it's mainly a dps/tank hybrid |
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| 21:19.57 | Pkekyo | huh...death knight/pala in arenas will be interesting... |
| 21:20.15 | Dustwhisper| | ooh al'ar down again |
| 21:20.18 | Dustwhisper| | i love that fight |
| 21:23.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Joy! |
| 21:23.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Our awesome quebecois tank of insane awesomeness has returned to us! |
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| 21:25.58 | xyu | I like how i can be in melee range of someone, i mean i'm swinging, but execute is grayed out...... |
| 21:27.31 | Pkekyo | anyone seen the new added islands on the southwestern coast of Eastern Kingdoms on the Wrath of the Lich King map? |
| 21:27.50 | Pkekyo | wtb info |
| 21:29.10 | NM|Xinhuan | you won't get any lol! |
| 21:30.13 | Pkekyo | meknows...worth a shot anyways though |
| 21:30.56 | Fisker- | i don't hope you wake Adys |
| 21:31.07 | Adys | why cant I kick in this channel |
| 21:31.34 | Pkekyo | 'cause you're not a channel operator? :> |
| 21:31.37 | Fisker- | Pkekyo there's nothing to see, it's a map from before Azeroth was finished back in the alpha/beta days |
| 21:32.00 | Pkekyo | meh |
| 21:32.24 | Pkekyo | was hoping for new azeroth content...azeroth had alot of nice places |
| 21:32.49 | xyu | such as darnassus! |
| 21:33.02 | NM|Xinhuan | new azeroth content would prob be expansion material.... they did say grim batol is going to be a raid dungeon? |
| 21:33.11 | xyu | yep |
| 21:33.18 | NM|Xinhuan | did they mention uldum? |
| 21:33.30 | Fisker- | they mentioned ulduar |
| 21:33.41 | xyu | how about underwear? |
| 21:33.43 | xyu | any mention of that |
| 21:33.44 | Fisker- | it's gonna be a new instance |
| 21:33.53 | Fisker- | yes you're wearing mine xyu |
| 21:34.16 | xyu | heroic BWL? |
| 21:35.08 | Fisker- | no |
| 21:35.13 | NM|Xinhuan | please no heroic molten cores, ty ;) |
| 21:35.14 | Pkekyo | I've been hoping for uldum being added for a long time now...as well as grim batol and such...and that zone east of burning steppes that I can never remember the name of >.< |
| 21:35.18 | Fisker- | only remake they're considering is Naxxramas |
| 21:35.23 | Fisker- | because it has some relevance for Northrend |
| 21:36.02 | Pkekyo | let's hope they don't make naxx high-end content again, so that us normal mortals have a chance to get in there once as well |
| 21:36.19 | NM|Xinhuan | doubt it |
| 21:36.28 | Fisker- | Naxx was easy to get into |
| 21:36.46 | Fisker- | you could take 2 bosses relatively easy |
| 21:37.00 | Fisker- | when you could take Anub'Rekhan you could pretty much clear the spiderwing(after hot buff) |
| 21:37.37 | Pkekyo | well, what about those who couldn't take anyb'rekhan? there's quite a big share of those players... |
| 21:37.58 | Pkekyo | it's like "be fucking insanely imba, or you're going to miss out on 50% of the game content"...sucks |
| 21:38.01 | Fisker- | (23:36:20) <Fisker-> you could take 2 bosses relatively easy |
| 21:38.31 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: as an MC guild starting bwl? |
| 21:38.39 | Pkekyo | or even an early mc guild? |
| 21:39.20 | Fisker- | Actually because of the itemization failure in MC, newer guilds could just go ZG->BWL |
| 21:39.25 | Fisker- | perhaps even ZG-AQ |
| 21:39.40 | Fisker- | and Instructor could be viable, even in ZG gear |
| 21:39.56 | vhaarr | especially in MC gear, considering the priest set bonus :P |
| 21:39.58 | vhaarr | err |
| 21:39.59 | vhaarr | ZG |
| 21:40.18 | Pkekyo | after having MC on farm, we got to razorgore in bwl before tbc launched... |
| 21:40.48 | xyu | you missed out on lovely nights of 4 horsemen progression! |
| 21:41.02 | Pkekyo | I missed out on EVERYTHING |
| 21:41.05 | Pkekyo | meh, seems not all races will be able to be a death knight :< |
| 21:41.28 | xyu | BWL was fun except for brood lord trash. other than that i could actually stand that instance. |
| 21:41.29 | Fisker- | sofar yeah |
| 21:41.35 | xyu | AQ40 was zzzzzzzz for me, except c'thun |
| 21:42.02 | xyu | naxx was ok, except i had a 800ms ping in taiwan, DDR fights for the lose. |
| 21:42.06 | Fisker- | i liked AQ40, well besides for fankriss |
| 21:42.14 | vhaarr | fankriss was fun |
| 21:42.22 | xyu | i didn't mind fank |
| 21:42.25 | Pkekyo | wtb tauren death knight tbh |
| 21:42.29 | Fisker- | it was horrible with like half of the people not having a mount yet |
| 21:42.30 | Pkekyo | or death cow, even... |
| 21:42.32 | xyu | i liked to scream WORM!?J!@!L: J OMFG WEORM!!~: f |
| 21:42.36 | Fisker- | and having to wipe because he spawned 3 worms at a time |
| 21:42.45 | Fisker- | i think that happened 4 times to us |
| 21:43.11 | xyu | but the trash before the twins was soooo damn long and boring |
| 21:43.22 | xyu | and trash to c'thun as well |
| 21:43.34 | abug | zomg yield up your shards ye bugs |
| 21:43.37 | vhaarr | viscidus was a cool fight |
| 21:43.41 | xyu | yes |
| 21:43.45 | xyu | but i was in an alliance guild |
| 21:43.47 | xyu | so we never tried it |
| 21:43.48 | Fisker- | mindflayer packs = no thanks |
| 21:43.59 | vhaarr | I'm alliance as well |
| 21:44.01 | vhaarr | we killed him |
| 21:44.24 | xyu | before he was un nerfed? |
| 21:44.26 | xyu | or after |
| 21:44.34 | xyu | he used to be free loot |
| 21:44.46 | xyu | but then they actually made him decently hard |
| 21:45.03 | xyu | and our dps couldn't pick the right gobule if their life depended on it |
| 21:45.39 | xyu | but i agree it was a fun fight |
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| 21:45.44 | xyu | and i was a mage |
| 21:45.48 | xyu | so i begged to do it every time |
| 21:45.50 | xyu | we were in AQ40 |
| 21:45.55 | xyu | and i'd get yelled at |
| 21:45.56 | Fisker- | i'd like to try out huhuran with 40 level 70's :P |
| 21:46.13 | Fisker- | it would be like if we were all dwarves |
| 21:46.18 | Fisker- | (imba alliance btw) |
| 21:46.37 | Matrix110 | we had 4 dorf palas back then was kinda nice:p |
| 21:46.44 | Matrix110 | +1 dorf rogue |
| 21:46.51 | alb` | my friend is doing aq40 atm |
| 21:46.53 | Matrix110 | +1 dorf warrior |
| 21:47.08 | vithos | Cryect: here? |
| 21:47.09 | xyu | luckily alliance got another fear ward, boy did they need one of those desperately |
| 21:47.27 | Fisker- | Luckily they're fixing that in this expansion |
| 21:47.35 | Fisker- | only 3½ years late |
| 21:47.43 | xyu | what are they doing? |
| 21:48.01 | Fisker- | apparently they intend on just giving it to all priests |
| 21:48.38 | Matrix110 | well its raiding/pvp wise one of the most imba racials |
| 21:48.49 | xyu | yep |
| 21:48.58 | Fisker- | I remember at my school |
| 21:49.10 | Fisker- | We were like 5-6 of my friends who were in 6 different alliance guilds |
| 21:49.18 | Fisker- | and i was like "Bah fear ward is totally overpowered" |
| 21:49.30 | Fisker- | And they were like "Yeah but you got totems and they remove it from _5_ persons" |
| 21:49.41 | Fisker- | "Yeah great fucking deal when you only need to keep 1 out of a fear" |
| 21:50.21 | Necrathex | depends on the situation, totems are nice on bug trio in aq40 :p |
| 21:50.28 | xyu | i miss "Wanding my mana back to 100%" ^_^ |
| 21:50.33 | xyu | does anyone do that in fights anymore? |
| 21:50.59 | xyu | seems its not needed any longer |
| 21:51.31 | Fisker- | well didn't judgements get refreshed by all melee attacks before? |
| 21:51.35 | xyu | i used to always send tells to pallys to keep that wis judged |
| 21:51.37 | xyu | nope |
| 21:52.07 | Fisker- | must've been horrible back then |
| 21:52.11 | Fisker- | now you atleast have crusader strike |
| 21:52.15 | xyu | well the pally just has to hit it once |
| 21:52.17 | Fisker- | if anyone is stupid enough to reroll ret |
| 21:52.17 | xyu | to refresh |
| 21:52.43 | Fisker- | oh bai |
| 21:52.45 | xyu | i put up wisdom on gruul and mag ...just in case, i dont know if any of our casters even know how it works |
| 21:52.47 | Fisker- | i'm gonna get some sleep |
| 21:53.03 | Fisker- | well every raid has a couple of shadow priests :P |
| 21:53.17 | Fisker- | Man i was in ecstacy heaven before SA nerf |
| 21:53.26 | Fisker- | We had 2 or 3 shadow priests on our raids |
| 21:53.30 | Fisker- | and i was grouped with them :P |
| 21:53.46 | Fisker- | On Higking Maulgar i could just Holy Light spam in the whole encounter |
| 21:53.52 | Borked|Raider | so, dont think anyone answered my question before :) but is it posible to code so an event tricker an keypress or so? was wondering if its posible in anyway to make so fraps start recording on a speciel event |
| 21:54.01 | Borked|Raider | but its most licky not posible |
| 21:54.25 | Fisker- | i doubt it |
| 21:54.27 | Matrix110 | not possible i think |
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| 21:54.35 | Matrix110 | you cant let wow emulate a keypress |
| 21:54.37 | Fisker- | but hey, atleast we'll get recording added to WoW soon |
| 21:54.44 | Matrix110 | no Mac does:P |
| 21:54.46 | Fisker- | i wonder how Blizzard allows you to interact |
| 21:54.59 | Fisker- | Windows is getting it as well, just not in the 2.2 patch |
| 21:55.07 | Matrix110 | and that only because its easy to integrate in Mac OS |
| 21:55.24 | Kyahx | same with iTunes hotkeys |
| 21:55.25 | Borked|Raider | 23:53 <Fisker-> but hey, atleast we'll get recording added to WoW soon ????? inlight me :) |
| 21:55.28 | Fisker- | nah it's because Blizzard are Mac fanbois |
| 21:55.42 | omega | Borked|Raider: wow on mac gets video recorind trough Core * with 2.2 |
| 21:55.44 | Fisker- | They said on Blizzcon i think that they're going to add Windows recording as well |
| 21:55.46 | Kyahx | Im ok with that :P means they write stuff in OpenGL |
| 21:55.49 | NM|Xinhuan | i'll rather 2.2 not be delayed because of some video recording feature ;p |
| 21:55.54 | Borked|Raider | thats some nice news :O |
| 21:56.07 | Matrix110 | the video recording on mac is easy to implement |
| 21:56.14 | Borked|Raider | but well it mostlicky wont beat fraps :P |
| 21:56.23 | Fisker- | well doesn't really look like it Matrix110 |
| 21:56.29 | Fisker- | they've had severe issues with it :P |
| 21:56.35 | Borked|Raider | well making a framegrapper aint that hard on windows either |
| 21:56.46 | Matrix110 | well thats normal but integrating it for windows is like merging fraps into wow |
| 21:56.56 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:56.57 | NM|Xinhuan | hard to say, if they implement it, you could directly from ingame not record certain things, such as the UI |
| 21:57.03 | NM|Xinhuan | while having it displayed |
| 21:57.06 | Matrix110 | the mac graphics api is way better for such things |
| 21:57.10 | Borked|Raider | ye Matrix110, the guy making fraps should be fast and offer it to blizzard :P |
| 21:57.14 | Fisker- | It's gonna be a lot easier on the macs because Apple haven't gotten any antitrust lawsuits lately |
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| 21:57.25 | Borked|Raider | he could make a great deal of money of it |
| 21:57.36 | Pkekyo | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=298942563&sid=1 ahah, epic thread |
| 21:58.42 | Pkekyo | I'd bet first released warrior talent for the next expansion will be "Improved Endless Rage" O.o |
| 21:58.53 | Borked|Raider | ohh well, loking forward to see framegrapping tool in wow. Some other thing, the new combatlog event system i saw some video off from blizzcon. I dont realy get the hope consept of it, whats the diff from how it is now? |
| 21:59.09 | NM|Xinhuan | probably not much |
| 21:59.34 | Borked|Raider | if it was a change to the way the event system works, or it was just a UI change for the front user. |
| 21:59.45 | Pkekyo | Borked|Raider: probably like the difference from Rend and Improved Rend... |
| 21:59.54 | Borked|Raider | ??? |
| 22:00.01 | NM|Xinhuan | probably both |
| 22:00.03 | Matrix110 | Borked|Raider do you know Simple Combat Log? |
| 22:00.10 | NM|Xinhuan | but from a user point of view, i doubt you'll see any real changes |
| 22:00.11 | Borked|Raider | i think i saw it ye |
| 22:00.12 | Matrix110 | it will look like SCL now |
| 22:00.17 | Matrix110 | and be easier to parse |
| 22:00.25 | Matrix110 | as it throws events instead of text |
| 22:00.55 | Borked|Raider | ye ok, thats also what i had in my head when i saw it. But hearing them talk of it, it made me think if they was to change the way the hole event system works now :P |
| 22:00.57 | Matrix110 | so dmgmeters/threatmeters and everything related to it can get more accurate data |
| 22:01.08 | NM|Xinhuan | just means you don't need a few million parsing libraries to parse the combat log |
| 22:01.17 | NM|Xinhuan | overall less addon CPU overhead |
| 22:01.23 | Borked|Raider | hmm |
| 22:01.25 | NM|Xinhuan | and possibly less syncing needed |
| 22:01.57 | Borked|Raider | so they are adding alot more events to make this work? |
| 22:01.58 | ccKep | what's the purpose of guilds cutting of phase1 from kael encounter on WWS? f*cking retarded |
| 22:02.35 | Borked|Raider | lost |
| 22:02.40 | Matrix110 | we do it on SWStats/recount atleast to see P2 dps better |
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| 22:02.46 | ccKep | Borked|Raider: I'm healer |
| 22:02.51 | Borked|Raider | :D |
| 22:02.53 | Matrix110 | because in p1 the dps doesnt matter shit kinda |
| 22:03.03 | ccKep | just had our firstkill and wanted to compare |
| 22:03.16 | ccKep | no I had to cut of phase1 aswell and its ranked #6 on WWS *cheer* |
| 22:03.30 | Pkekyo | ccKep: WWS? |
| 22:03.37 | Matrix110 | wow web stats |
| 22:03.40 | ccKep | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/ |
| 22:04.17 | ccKep | nice tool for checking if your dpsers are working ok |
| 22:04.29 | theoddone33 | yes |
| 22:04.36 | theoddone33 | I looked at one from my friend's guild |
| 22:04.45 | theoddone33 | and they had a dagger rogue who was sinister striking and not using snd |
| 22:05.11 | theoddone33 | you'd know he was low from something else, but you wouldn't exactly know why |
| 22:08.47 | Dustwhisper| | I'm never able to parse out just the fight i want from my combatlog to WWS |
| 22:08.54 | ccKep | hope we can finally explore hyjal this week a bit |
| 22:08.56 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 22:08.59 | ccKep | works automatically for me |
| 22:09.07 | ccKep | you just have to let them host it, not create a local report |
| 22:09.12 | theoddone33 | what's the name of ckknight's scrolling combat text thing again? |
| 22:09.17 | ccKep | parrot |
| 22:09.21 | theoddone33 | that's right, thanks |
| 22:09.24 | Dustwhisper| | i run the WWS client |
| 22:09.26 | Dustwhisper| | load my combatlog |
| 22:09.27 | Dustwhisper| | and parse |
| 22:09.33 | Dustwhisper| | parses like weeks of combatlog into same fight |
| 22:09.52 | ccKep | well, I clear my combatlog before a raid |
| 22:10.03 | ccKep | so I only have that evening |
| 22:10.35 | NM|Xinhuan | WWS is just a tool, but i see many guilds using it as some form of epeen flexing thing |
| 22:11.05 | ccKep | nice to compare strategies used on bosses |
| 22:11.21 | theoddone33 | it'd be good for evaluating apps and such |
| 22:11.21 | ccKep | eg. if another guild has like 30% more dps, they're probably doing something other than you |
| 22:11.28 | NM|Xinhuan | ya its a tool like i said |
| 22:11.33 | Dustwhisper| | he |
| 22:11.36 | Dustwhisper| | tried parsing combatlog now |
| 22:11.43 | NM|Xinhuan | but some are just using it as a "my guild does 30% more dps than yours, you suck" |
| 22:11.44 | Dustwhisper| | got like 1 week of void reaver with like 10 million dmg |
| 22:11.48 | Dustwhisper| | from me alone |
| 22:12.13 | ccKep | I love those archimonde reports |
| 22:12.21 | ccKep | "Archimonde Try 23" |
| 22:12.24 | ccKep | "Archimonde Death" |
| 22:14.39 | kovi | if you upload it to the page you get a dropdown menu that splits it into the different bosses and tries |
| 22:14.49 | kovi | i think if you save it on your hdd it doesnt do that |
| 22:15.26 | theoddone33 | oof |
| 22:15.29 | theoddone33 | parrot is ... really nice |
| 22:15.45 | ccKep | it really rocks |
| 22:15.50 | theoddone33 | a little spammy by default but I'm pretty impressed |
| 22:16.10 | Dustwhisper| | got some screens of it? |
| 22:16.48 | theoddone33 | I'll get a good one |
| 22:16.50 | theoddone33 | paladin aoe fight |
| 22:19.34 | xyu | is WAU2 a new client or is it like java based or something? |
| 22:20.33 | |Stan| | java based |
| 22:21.03 | xyu | k, the page wasn't loading for me, and i was wondering if that was it. guess so thanks ^^ |
| 22:23.21 | xyu | I keep getting this every once in a while. RapidCast\RapidCast.lua:302: AceModuleCore-2.0: Cannot find module "CastBar". |
| 22:25.09 | theoddone33 | what's a good image upload site, I always used imageshack but it doesn't work anymore |
| 22:27.41 | dodga | WTF, some addon is doing some really strange /who queries all the time |
| 22:27.53 | dodga | Any ideas how I can narrow it down without doing massive amounts of relogging? |
| 22:28.20 | Dustwhisper| | pattern search for the command in all your lua files =?D |
| 22:28.31 | vhaarr | hook the function and print the debug stack |
| 22:28.33 | theoddone33 | http://i9.tinypic.com/4m9981x.jpg there is my parrot screenshot |
| 22:28.34 | ckknight | is there a real point to having RAID/PARTY/BATTLEGROUND instead of just GROUP? (for AceComm) |
| 22:28.47 | dodga | vhaarr: Ah yeah.. huh? :D |
| 22:29.17 | Funkeh` | ckknight: what do you mean |
| 22:29.48 | ckknight | distribution paths to take, you could send to just PARTY, RAID, or BATTLEGROUND, or you could send to GROUP, which will send to the proper one you're in |
| 22:30.06 | Funkeh` | not if you are in a group and a battleground I don't think |
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| 22:30.26 | ckknight | yea, but that's a fringe case |
| 22:30.49 | ckknight | how often does it happen where the addon will actually be concerned about that? |
| 22:32.23 | Funkeh` | Not sure, Violation? |
| 22:33.24 | ckknight | nope |
| 22:33.44 | ckknight | cause if you're in a BG, you're only worried about sending to your BG members |
| 22:34.05 | ckknight | alright, so looks like LibJokerComm is going to support WHISPER, GROUP, and GUILD |
| 22:34.07 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:34.45 | Funkeh` | err, so if your in a raid and send to group it sends to raid? |
| 22:35.11 | |Stan| | ckknight: what will the new lib do? |
| 22:35.25 | ckknight | right, Funkeh` |
| 22:35.36 | ckknight | |Stan|: like AceComm-2.0, only slimmed down |
| 22:35.45 | |Stan| | ok |
| 22:38.41 | Funkeh` | I suppose you could always change it if the situation arises |
| 22:39.53 | Funkeh` | No, hold on, if you are in BG and a group with say Violation it will be sending to GROUP because of acecomm, which will egt it group or bg? :P |
| 22:41.10 | Ominous | what is a good ssh client for windows? |
| 22:41.22 | |Stan| | Putty |
| 22:41.30 | ckknight | Funkeh`: BG |
| 22:42.00 | Funkeh` | ckknight: alright then theres no problem |
| 22:42.14 | dodga | Okay it seems AuldLangSyne does some not so nice stuff; why would it send /who queries for player names in Alterac Valley? |
| 22:42.19 | *** join/#wowace dabujo_ (i=xx@p54ACC034.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:42.41 | Funkeh` | whats that addon for |
| 22:42.56 | dodga | Manages friend list |
| 22:43.20 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host81-155-119-132.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:43.21 | dodga | Allows to attach notes to people on ones friend/ignore list and guild roster |
| 22:43.36 | dodga | It is the only addon that does a SendWho request that I have installed |
| 22:43.41 | Funkeh` | Then I have no idea why it would need to use a whoe query :p |
| 22:43.59 | dodga | And I constantly get spammed with "No player named ble currently online" or the like |
| 22:44.07 | dodga | And the name is somebody in the battleground from a different realm |
| 22:44.32 | dodga | Funkeh`: It shows additional information on people in the friend list, e.g. level, zone and that kinda stuff |
| 22:44.38 | Diao | i don't get spammed with it |
| 22:44.40 | weab | that doesn't mean it's doing a who |
| 22:44.41 | Diao | and i use auldlangsyne |
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| 22:44.52 | dodga | Diao: Have you been to AV lately? |
| 22:44.58 | Diao | only been aving nonstop |
| 22:45.00 | Diao | for the past 48 hours |
| 22:45.03 | Diao | lol |
| 22:45.08 | dodga | I only get it in AV and only with people from different realms |
| 22:45.10 | Diao | haven't slept |
| 22:45.11 | Diao | yet |
| 22:45.13 | dodga | Diao: What revision and what modules? |
| 22:45.22 | dodga | Diao: Yeah I also made ~20k honor until now :D |
| 22:45.35 | Diao | r45536 |
| 22:45.38 | Diao | i've got 50k honor lol |
| 22:46.15 | Diao | all modules enabled |
| 22:46.16 | dodga | Diao: I also run 45536 |
| 22:46.23 | dodga | Hm, I got Fu disabled |
| 22:47.26 | dodga | I wonder how I could debug it so that Kemayo can fix it :D |
| 22:50.53 | |Stan| | which bag-addon do you guys use? |
| 22:52.26 | vhaarr | bagnon |
| 22:53.10 | Dustwhisper| | baggins |
| 22:53.17 | dodga | Sanity2 :P |
| 22:56.00 | Cryect | vbagnon |
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| 23:09.22 | Jaxon | Cryect: vBagnon isn't developed anymore, is it? |
| 23:12.11 | Keias | I still use Bagnon also |
| 23:13.37 | fireglow | same here |
| 23:14.47 | dodga | Okay, it definately is AuldLangSyne that does the strange /who queries. Disabled it and had 0 of those in the last AVs |
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| 23:15.29 | dylanm | w |
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| 23:17.23 | Pkekyo | as a warrior: Is it pointless to have the Second Wind talent when combined with the Iron Will talent? |
| 23:17.43 | Keias | No |
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| 23:19.47 | Pkekyo | views on Improved Cleave in an MS/DW build? |
| 23:25.27 | lapalapa | second wind is probably best 2 points you can put into whole arms tree |
| 23:25.32 | Pkekyo | someone here able to tell me what computer liquid cooling systems are all about? |
| 23:25.40 | Pkekyo | lapalapa: MS? :> |
| 23:25.43 | Dustwhisper| | ehm |
| 23:25.46 | lapalapa | i was just going to say that |
| 23:25.48 | Dustwhisper| | you have a reservoir with water |
| 23:25.50 | lapalapa | may be MS is better :D |
| 23:25.52 | Dustwhisper| | you have pumps |
| 23:25.53 | Dustwhisper| | and a cooler |
| 23:25.56 | Dustwhisper| | you have water-blocks |
| 23:26.03 | Dustwhisper| | you mount waterblocks on whatever you want to cool |
| 23:26.08 | Dustwhisper| | you pump water through it all to cool |
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| 23:26.37 | Pkekyo | I wanna shut my computer up...it's annoying me a bit :> |
| 23:26.53 | lapalapa | and imp cleave is a good talent, too bad i never have enough points to get it |
| 23:26.58 | Pkekyo | my problem is: I have a harddrive cooler (3slot) with a 120mm howling like a motherfucker |
| 23:27.04 | lapalapa | but i leveled with it when i was warms fury |
| 23:27.15 | Dustwhisper| | you can get very good liquid and/or silent harddrive coolers |
| 23:27.21 | lapalapa | water cooling is a good thing if done right but expensive as shit |
| 23:27.28 | lapalapa | hmm |
| 23:27.32 | lapalapa | well even more expensive :D |
| 23:27.42 | Pkekyo | lapalapa: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVMxdAbox0zbZVVuVM0RZc try this one? :> |
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| 23:28.20 | Pkekyo | Dustwhisper|: the water reservoir....inside or outside the tower? |
| 23:28.30 | lapalapa | well it seems pretty nice |
| 23:28.41 | lapalapa | enrage is sweet thing tho |
| 23:28.53 | Dustwhisper| | Doesnt matter, it's normal to have it outside tbh =D |
| 23:28.56 | lapalapa | and in pvp imp cleave isnt that good |
| 23:28.57 | Pkekyo | I fucking hate enrage, it's a piece of shit talent |
| 23:28.58 | Dustwhisper| | not the best thing to have inside |
| 23:29.18 | Pkekyo | having it externally would be a bad plan in this room :< |
| 23:29.49 | Pkekyo | enrage should NEVER have been a prereq to flurry tbh... |
| 23:29.51 | lapalapa | anyway now i am arms/prot since we are doing a lot of instancing while leveling (my war is 66) |
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| 23:31.10 | Pkekyo | <--- 48 points deep in prot |
| 23:31.55 | Pkekyo | I'm conflited...should I get water cooling, or just lownoise fans... |
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| 23:38.58 | Ominous | !ar 5000 |
| 23:39.00 | ThraeBot | Ominous: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 23:39.05 | Ominous | !ap 5000 |
| 23:39.08 | ThraeBot | Ominous: Arena points from a rating of 5000 is, 2v2: 998, 3v3: 1141, 5v5: 1426 |
| 23:39.20 | Ominous | oops dammit im tired |
| 23:39.50 | Ominous | !ap 1500 |
| 23:39.55 | ThraeBot | Ominous: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 263, 3v3: 300, 5v5: 376 |
| 23:42.08 | hypetech | does weapon skill level affect pvp? |
| 23:42.15 | Pkekyo | !ap 1311 |
| 23:42.17 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena points from a rating of 1311 is, 2v2: 212, 3v3: 243, 5v5: 304 |
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| 23:42.42 | Pkekyo | hypetech: not at all |
| 23:42.53 | Necrathex | hypetech: only if above level*5 |
| 23:43.16 | hypetech | huh? |
| 23:43.41 | hypetech | well I bought a new sword and got the sword skill then went into WSG with 0 sword skill and it didn't work out :p |
| 23:44.09 | Necrathex | that shouldn't matter |
| 23:44.27 | hypetech | weird |
| 23:44.36 | Necrathex | your minimum weaponskill in pvp is your level times 5 |
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| 23:45.20 | hypetech | so I'm 29, that's 145, which is max for that level anyway |
| 23:46.43 | theoddone33 | eh? |
| 23:46.53 | theoddone33 | weapon skill doesn't affect pvp? since when? |
| 23:47.03 | Diao | it never has |
| 23:47.07 | Diao | lol |
| 23:47.24 | Necrathex | only if above your level, then it grants 0.04% to both crit and hit |
| 23:47.42 | theoddone33 | I'm a little skeptical |
| 23:47.46 | theoddone33 | I may buy an axe later and see |
| 23:47.54 | Necrathex | check the wowwiki page if you need confirmation |
| 23:48.06 | hypetech | well I swear I just missed with ever swing with 0 sword skill |
| 23:48.08 | hypetech | every* |
| 23:48.26 | starlon | http://news.curse.com/details/2592/ |
| 23:48.33 | starlon | "Built-in threat meter for players so that managing threat is a bit easier." |
| 23:48.48 | hypetech | o.0 |
| 23:48.50 | Necrathex | to be expected :) |
| 23:48.52 | Gnarfoz | hypetech: you can't even have 0 sword skill ;p |
| 23:48.58 | kenlyric | Sunwell Plateau with the final boss being Kil'Jaeden. |
| 23:49.02 | kenlyric | hey, what? |
| 23:50.04 | hypetech | Blizzard wants to re-introduce Naxxramas in Northrend as a molten core level dungeon so more players can experience one of the best raid dungeons created. |
| 23:50.06 | hypetech | o.0 |
| 23:50.32 | hypetech | * Built-in itemrack-like system that allows you to swap gear sets quickly. One thing Blizzard will be able to offer that addons can't is real storage space for resist gear with this system. |
| 23:50.35 | hypetech | * Built-in threat meter for players so that managing threat is a bit easier. |
| 23:50.35 | hypetech | * Built-in Deadly Boss Mods-style boss warning system to allow better warnings for crucial situations. |
| 23:50.35 | hypetech | heh |
| 23:50.36 | hypetech | nice |
| 23:50.56 | Pkekyo | basically...copying every decent addon they can get their hands on? :P |
| 23:50.58 | kenlyric | why would KJ be at the sunwell? |
| 23:51.16 | kenlyric | well, if history proves correctly, they'll copy it badly, or simply. |
| 23:51.30 | Pkekyo | ofc |
| 23:51.31 | kenlyric | sct, ctra, etc. |
| 23:51.32 | Pkekyo | that's what they do |
| 23:53.05 | Pkekyo | pvping without an instant attack sucks |
| 23:54.01 | Arrowmaster | i dont think even blizzard could make something worse than DBM |
| 23:55.01 | Pkekyo | DBM? |
| 23:55.12 | Gnarfoz | bigwigs needs more popularity somehow. everyone I know has heard of DBM, no one knows BW -.- couriously, they do know Omen as well as KTM |
| 23:55.14 | Pkekyo | deadly isn't bad |
| 23:55.33 | Dustwhisper| | our guild allows either |
| 23:55.40 | Dustwhisper| | but they have all been informed that BW is prefered |
| 23:56.01 | Necrathex | most ppl in my guild switched from bigwigs to dbm |
| 23:56.50 | Pkekyo | getting pissed off that our guild page shows a listing of DBM, KTM, CTRa etc but no alternatives what_so_ever |
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| 23:57.51 | Pkekyo | and ofc guilds won't allow the use of alternatives, as they hardly even know they exist |
| 23:58.25 | Dustwhisper| | they wont notice tbh |
| 23:58.27 | Pkekyo | in my previous guild I got threatened with a gkick for using oRa2 and Omen instead of CTRa and KTM |
| 23:58.32 | Dustwhisper| | i ran oRA2 etc for like a year |
| 23:58.36 | Dustwhisper| | when everyone else used CTRA |
| 23:58.38 | Dustwhisper| | and noone knew |
| 23:58.41 | Pkekyo | true |
| 23:59.02 | Pkekyo | but it's still fuckedup that they enforce the use of ctra onto everyone |
| 23:59.23 | Necrathex | just because they don't know better? |
| 23:59.33 | Pkekyo | yeah |
| 23:59.46 | Pkekyo | "we only know ctra and ktm, so YOU HAVE TO USE IT" |
| 23:59.55 | todd | /gquit |
