IRC log for #wowace on 20070801

`00:00.14`	`Shirik`	`art3mis: The comments about big pimpin?`
`00:01.02`	`kebinusan`	`hm, anyone use autobar`
`00:01.29`	`kebinusan`	`I just downloaded it again for the first time and I seem to have trouble, some of my buttons dont do what they should when I click them.. or to be more correct do nothing`
`00:01.39`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Yay, it kinda works now.`
`00:02.06`	`ravagernl`	`kebinusan: cleaned saved vars?`
`00:02.07`	`*** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net)`
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`00:02.16`	`art3mis`	`shirik no about the addon that grabs your wtf settings and addon list and config stuff and allows you to "store" it online with no real effort so that someone else can go to your profile page see your ui download the profile run it in the setup program and it would configure your whole ui and addons offline to mimic the original picture`
`00:02.46`	`[dRaCo]`	`more punctuation.`
`00:02.53`	`ccKep`	`fucking up raid instances makes me sad`
`00:02.57`	`art3mis`	`sorry im allergic i break out in hives`
`00:03.03`	`Shirik`	`Is that supposed to be a "poke shirik please go do this" sort of thing?`
`00:03.12`	`kebinusan`	`ravagernl, yea the buttons look right and Ive edited the categories, however, clicking food doesnt cause me to sit down and eat for example`
`00:03.25`	`art3mis`	`shirik: yes ;P`
`00:03.41`	`Shirik`	`perhaps, but I've been quite a bit busy as of late`
`00:03.50`	`art3mis`	`oh no rush`
`00:03.57`	`art3mis`	`when ever you get a chance`
`00:04.04`	`art3mis`	`i think it would be a fairly awesome thingy`
`00:04.08`	`ccKep`	`set dungeon difficulty heroic, let guildmate invite you to a raid, join the raid instance (solo), leave raid -> instance set to heroic -> fucked up raidinstance for 30mins :o`
`00:04.25`	`art3mis`	`of course i also liked the kentucky fried movie and kug pow`
`00:04.28`	`art3mis`	`jung pow`
`00:04.59`	`Shirik`	`kentucky fried movie?`
`00:05.02`	`art3mis`	`kung pow even`
`00:05.11`	`art3mis`	`yeah an old zucker zucker and abrhams movie`
`00:05.12`	`Shirik`	`kung pow I found somewhat amusing though`
`00:05.20`	`art3mis`	`the airplane! guys`
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`00:05.44`	`art3mis`	`its pretty funny, the middle "short movie" is a mockery of all the bruce lee flicks`
`00:07.11`	`CIA-22`	`03starinnia * r45462 10SimpleMD/ (Locale-deDE.lua SimpleMD.toc):`
`00:07.11`	`CIA-22`	`SimpleMD:`
`00:07.11`	`CIA-22`	`- TOC metadata changes`
`00:07.11`	`CIA-22`	`- Added deDE translation, let me know of any problems`
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`00:09.25`	`*** part/#wowace mitch1 (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-189-11.pool.tvnet.hu)`
`00:11.58`	`CIA-22`	`03cronan * r45463 10BigBrother/ (BuffWindow.lua localization_euUS.lua localization_koKR.lua):`
`00:11.58`	`CIA-22`	`BigBrother:`
`00:11.59`	`CIA-22`	`- Add Elixir of the Mongoose to battle potions.`
`00:15.03`	`BankZ`	`someone needs to write a good hot/dot timer :)`
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`00:16.40`	`Chaoslux`	`Isnt that what Chronometers do? :o`
`00:17.22`	`art3mis`	`meters chrono's`
`00:17.32`	`art3mis`	`s/'s/s`
`00:17.50`	`Chaoslux`	`...what?`
`00:18.59`	`art3mis`	`chronometer meters chronos`
`00:19.04`	`art3mis`	`duh`
`00:19.16`	`art3mis`	`it has nothing to do with hots and dots`
`00:19.25`	`art3mis`	`that ould hotometer and dotometer ;)`
`00:19.38`	`art3mis`	`s/ould/would be/g`
`00:21.30`	`Amadeo`	`Your mom's on my hotometer`
`00:22.26`	`art3mis`	`wow`
`00:22.32`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45464 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua: LibJokerEvent-1.0 - fake commit`
`00:22.33`	`art3mis`	`you've got pretty low standards then`
`00:22.43`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`00:22.50`	`art3mis`	`ckk: instead of doing fake commits why not do something worthwhile ;P`
`00:22.57`	`Amadeo`	`I don't know what to say now, you're not supposed to diss yourself`
`00:22.58`	`Amadeo`	`:(`
`00:24.00`	`art3mis`	`heh`
`00:24.18`	`kaiden`	`ckknight, is it just me or is cowtip bugged the anchors aren't actually anchoring the tooltip to that area`
`00:24.58`	`Amadeo`	`it's bugged`
`00:25.14`	`Amadeo`	`the health bars don't show the resize if they're on the left/right side either`
`00:25.18`	`Amadeo`	`well, health/power`
`00:25.40`	`kaiden`	`ok just making sure, also, if you anchor to screen top-left it looks like the anchors work there`
`00:25.55`	`kaiden`	`but not when on the top-right they stay in the far top right corner no matter where you move the anchor to`
`00:25.59`	`Amadeo`	`I've just been trying to do a mouse offset, and it doesn't seem to work`
`00:26.04`	`Amadeo`	`it used to though :)`
`00:26.12`	`Amadeo`	`I just don't remember what revision`
`00:26.18`	`CIA-22`	`03cryect * r45465 10Recount/ (Sync.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Fixes bug with heal buff tracking and restores tracking of heal buffs (Prayer of Mending, Earth Shield, and Lifebloom)`
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`00:27.09`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45466 10Joker/LibJokerTimer-1.0/LibJokerTimer-1.0.lua: LibJokerTimer-1.0 - fake commit`
`00:27.35`	`Kaelten`	`enough fake commits we'll be at 50k commits!`
`00:27.36`	`Kaelten`	`woot`
`00:27.41`	`Ominous`	`oO`
`00:27.42`	`Cryect`	`haha`
`00:27.51`	`Ominous`	`how big is the wowace repo?`
`00:27.54`	`Kaelten`	`I'm asking him to do those`
`00:27.56`	`Kaelten`	`disk side?`
`00:28.11`	`Ominous`	`ya`
`00:28.16`	`Kaelten`	`1.7G`
`00:28.21`	`Ominous`	`oO is that with files`
`00:28.24`	`Kaelten`	`no`
`00:28.31`	`Ominous`	`how much is files?`
`00:28.33`	`Kaelten`	`thats just the server side repository files`
`00:28.47`	`Ominous`	`what about all the zips`
`00:28.48`	`Kaelten`	`30G`
`00:28.54`	`Ominous`	`oO`
`00:28.55`	`Bejitt`	`jesus`
`00:29.08`	`Kaelten`	`I don't delete old copies as of the moment`
`00:29.10`	`Cryect`	`thats only because there is like 1000 revisions`
`00:29.14`	`Cryect`	`per addon`
`00:29.22`	`Kaelten`	`ya, some more than others`
`00:29.25`	`Cryect`	`it has every single update for every library change :-p`
`00:30.27`	`Bejitt`	`oh you're fixing the Category names? :D`
`00:30.41`	`Cryect`	`the real question is if someone changed ace2 how much would space usage increase by`
`00:31.52`	`Xuerian`	`BigWigs covers Gruul, right? >.>`
`00:32.05`	`Jaxon`	`Of course it does.`
`00:32.06`	`Jaxon`	`Silly.`
`00:32.15`	`Cryect`	`haha`
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`00:32.22`	`Xuerian`	`Duh. It was a pop quiz!`
`00:32.48`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`ckknight: is there any way in Parrot to make text that's really long not stick past the edge of the screen?`
`00:33.07`	`ckknight`	`not currently`
`00:33.23`	`Cryect`	`so have multiple lines per entry of text?`
`00:34.28`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`well, consider that to be a good idea, and a feature request.`
`00:34.39`	`Cryect`	`wouldn't be too hard`
`00:34.42`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`otherwise, damned impressive, extremely easy to configure for the most part. Yay.`
`00:35.10`	`Xuerian`	`ckknight: I believe I have it set to abbreviate already, but some spells in parrot such as Rejuvenation aren't cut down to (under) five characters?`
`00:38.10`	`CIA-22`	`03sayclub * r45467 10RangeDisplay/localization-koKR.lua: RangeDisplay: Fixed localization koKR`
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`00:46.27`	`ccKep`	`hmhmhm`
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`00:53.30`	`Bejitt`	`Kaelten: what's this Template:Select on some of the TOC_Data pages?`
`00:54.03`	`todd`	`anyone know what addon people are using these days to show a portrait that's not connected to the unitframes? is it possible in pitbull?`
`00:54.37`	`[dRaCo]`	`screenie`
`00:56.44`	`todd`	`http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot063007205931dp7.jpg`
`00:56.49`	`todd`	`and`
`00:56.49`	`todd`	`http://gallery.filefront.com/Benea//688862/`
`00:57.30`	`[dRaCo]`	`if only imageshack was fast.`
`00:57.45`	`todd`	`yarly`
`00:58.03`	`[dRaCo]`	`pretty much looks like pitbull, yeah.`
`00:58.58`	`todd`	`only portrait options I see in PitBull are to attach them to the left, right, or center of the frame =/`
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`00:59.18`	`[dRaCo]`	`attach right, add spacing, ?, profit.`
`00:59.22`	`[dRaCo]`	`:)`
`01:01.07`	`Amadeo`	`what's the deal with PTR? I can't get my character list`
`01:01.35`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`insomnia sucks lol`
`01:02.49`	`Amadeo`	`Smash your head into the wall`
`01:02.53`	`Amadeo`	`out like a light!`
`01:03.21`	`Amadeo`	`or take benadryl :P`
`01:03.39`	`art3mis`	`or neo citrin`
`01:03.44`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`01:04.07`	`Amadeo`	`Did he get that from Morpheus?`
`01:04.18`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Amadeo: the head+wall thingie doesn't work all that well for me`
`01:04.27`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`the walls in this house are far too soft :<`
`01:04.30`	`Amadeo`	`That's because you're in Norway`
`01:04.36`	`Amadeo`	`You probably have a helmet on with horns`
`01:04.40`	`Amadeo`	`Take it off first!`
`01:04.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`lmfao`
`01:04.51`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`no, I don't....there's one on my closet though...`
`01:04.53`	`Amadeo`	`hahaha`
`01:05.06`	`Amadeo`	`I like to pretend Norway is really like that`
`01:05.11`	`Amadeo`	`Everyone wears those`
`01:05.19`	`Amadeo`	`and like, animal skins`
`01:05.24`	`Amadeo`	`and they fight each other with axes`
`01:05.30`	`CIA-22`	`03gagorian * r45468 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:`
`01:05.30`	`CIA-22`	`DrDamage:`
`01:05.30`	`CIA-22`	`- Register energy/rage gain events later`
`01:05.30`	`[dRaCo]`	`2h axes!`
`01:05.39`	`CIA-22`	`03fieroivan * r45469 10TradeskillInfo/ (TradeskillData.lua TradeskillInfo.lua): TradeskillInfo: Updated data from wowhead. Added additional field to combine for enchantid. Added function to return enchantid for new recipe links.`
`01:05.41`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`a guy in my class is like that...minus the helmet, that is...`
`01:05.42`	`Amadeo`	`no, one hand is holding beer`
`01:05.46`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`01:06.01`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`oh well...it's better than the ones that think Norway is the capital city of Sweden :>`
`01:06.12`	`Amadeo`	`it isn't?`
`01:06.17`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`....`
`01:06.19`	`Amadeo`	`I keed, I keed`
`01:06.30`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it's a small town in finland ffs, l2geography`
`01:06.50`	`Tinyboom`	`you would be surprised at how many that would actually believe that:p`
`01:07.15`	`Kaelten`	`ok, it works`
`01:07.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`not really...I lost the faith in humanity years ago`
`01:08.25`	`Amadeo`	`You killed Tinyboom`
`01:08.32`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`is there any ace addon that will let you add notes to a mob's tooltip?`
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`01:08.34`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`to many people think Norway is a savage country`
`01:09.04`	`Amadeo`	`I know it's not, but I wish it were`
`01:09.10`	`Amadeo`	`Because that would be awesome`
`01:09.18`	`art3mis`	`it certainly had nothing to do with media portrayal, history or the fact they're all sexual deviants and psychos could it?`
`01:09.20`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`agreed, that new neighbour is annoying...I'd love to skalp him`
`01:09.47`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`ok so our viking area is a bit to be proud of =)`
`01:09.55`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`we probably seeded half the european population =D`
`01:10.05`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`lmfao, indeed`
`01:10.12`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`but norway is a rich country on the forefront of technology and research in many areas`
`01:10.25`	`Amadeo`	`like in swordsmithing?`
`01:10.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`the vikings would fuck ANYONE`
`01:10.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`"HEY! LET'S FUCK HER!"`
`01:10.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`"-That's a sign-post, bob..."`
`01:10.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`"WEEEEL...LET'S GO FOR IT!"`
`01:11.08`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`norway is too rich, too small with too small of an army...we'll get invaded and zerged by russia or usa eventually...`
`01:11.23`	`Amadeo`	`Don't they make everyone do some military time?`
`01:11.28`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yes`
`01:11.32`	`Amadeo`	`how's that work?`
`01:11.47`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`one year, nine months or whatev when you're 18 (can be post-poned if you're in school/university)`
`01:12.01`	`Tinyboom`	`lol, my wau just went TU`
`01:12.04`	`Amadeo`	`what do you do?`
`01:12.09`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`ehm`
`01:12.10`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it's not ALL`
`01:12.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`what do you mean?`
`01:12.16`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it's down to around 33-50% of the male population`
`01:12.22`	`Amadeo`	`is it just like basic training, or what?`
`01:12.30`	`Tinyboom`	`ye`
`01:12.32`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`they weed out anyone with illnesses like backproblems or kneeproblems etc`
`01:12.34`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`well`
`01:12.36`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Dustwhisper\|: due to reduction of the norwegian army in general, yes`
`01:12.48`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`I was in his majesty the kings royal guard's drill and signal troop`
`01:12.53`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`which is basic training and a lot more`
`01:12.58`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`A lot of systematic marching`
`01:13.06`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it depends on what you sign up for...you can i.e. be a borderguard towards russia`
`01:13.22`	`Amadeo`	`I'd pick the easy one`
`01:13.32`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`or you could join an armored division`
`01:13.35`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`Woke up around 04.30 or 05.30 every morning, then we cleaned our room for around an hour++ (You have to use cuetips inside electric sockets and clean on the edges under your matrass etc)`
`01:13.36`	`Amadeo`	`like army forum moderator`
`01:13.36`	`Tinyboom`	`I was shooter on a tanks:p`
`01:13.38`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`then it was breakfest`
`01:13.46`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`then it was around 10 hours of phyical training and marching`
`01:13.56`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`then it was drill/musicpractice/taking care of instruments/guns etc`
`01:14.00`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`then it was some cleaning again`
`01:14.04`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`cleaning at lunch aswell`
`01:14.14`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`days ended around 22.00 or so in the first months`
`01:14.16`	`Tinyboom`	`only fun part about it was when we where shooting or crashing through the woods:p`
`01:14.16`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`then sleep for around 6 hours`
`01:14.21`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I'd love to try out for being a coastal ranger :>`
`01:14.26`	`Tinyboom`	`army is booring`
`01:14.31`	`Amadeo`	`I think they tricked you into becoming a maid`
`01:14.33`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`3 of my old schoolmates took coastal ranger`
`01:14.35`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`the army probably won't take me though >.<`
`01:14.36`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`I remember this one kid`
`01:14.40`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`he was a small guy`
`01:14.42`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`came back`
`01:14.45`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`was like a fucking wall`
`01:14.55`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`never seen anyone put on that much muscle and growth normaly`
`01:15.02`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yeah, the coastal ranger training is insane`
`01:15.13`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`but HMKG drill and signal is pretty darn rough aswell`
`01:16.05`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`due to knees I fucked up as a child, allergies, shitty longues etc the army probably won't take me in :<`
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`01:18.05`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`meh, had 2.5k ready for my epix flyer....`
`01:18.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`blew it all on epic BS plans >.<`
`01:18.57`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`blizz needs to nerf the epic flyer price`
`01:19.11`	`Gnarfoz`	`need to nerf your spending`
`01:19.17`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`AGREED!`
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`01:22.16`	`lollercop`	`is there a channel on this irc that is about bnetd servers for FT?`
`01:23.20`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`on freenode? I doubt it...could try quakenet though`
`01:23.29`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`find a warcraft chan`
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`01:24.10`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45470 10Joker/LibJokerTimer-1.0/LibJokerTimer-1.0.lua: LibJokerTimer-1.0 - commit to try to get Autodoc to run`
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`01:26.12`	`CIA-22`	`03fieroivan * r45471 10TradeskillInfoUI/TradeskillInfoUI.lua: TradeskillInfoUI: Add support for new recipe links. Shift-Control-Click on recipe list forces new recipe link.`
`01:26.39`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45472 10Joker/LibJokerHook-1.0/LibJokerHook-1.0.lua: LibJokerHook-1.0 - commit to try to get Autodoc to run`
`01:26.43`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45473 10Joker/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0.lua: LibJokerModuleCore-1.0 - commit to try to get Autodoc to run`
`01:26.55`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45474 10Joker/LibJokerConsole-1.0/LibJokerConsole-1.0.lua: LibJokerConsole-1.0 - commit to try to get Autodoc to run`
`01:27.19`	`dodgizzla`	`I wonder if Autodoc is running.`
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`01:27.47`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: idea for Joker: test files that verify functionality for easy testing`
`01:28.10`	`ckknight`	`unit tests and such?`
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`01:28.32`	`JoshBorke`	`yea`
`01:28.57`	`ckknight`	`I'm not sure how to implement it so that things will run only in a debug environment and such, well, in an easy way...`
`01:29.38`	`ckknight`	`btw, for people who want to know: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Joker`
`01:29.46`	`mikma`	`DADA DADA DADA DADA BATMAAAAAAAN`
`01:29.59`	`mikma`	`fyi, joker dies at the end`
`01:30.20`	`ckknight`	`doesn't he constantly get shipped back to Arkham?`
`01:30.27`	`Shirik`	`ckknight: You could do it like Microsoft does`
`01:30.34`	`ckknight`	`and then break out, do some more dastardly deeds, and repeat`
`01:30.38`	`ckknight`	`Shirik: what's that?`
`01:30.39`	`Chompers`	`Badly?`
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`01:30.50`	`Shirik`	`if you're in debug mode, run the function as you'd expect`
`01:31.00`	`Shirik`	`if you're in release mode, the function is function() end`
`01:31.01`	`ckknight`	`Shirik: well, how do you specify "debug mode"`
`01:31.06`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`01:31.09`	`Shirik`	`you could turn it on and off?`
`01:31.23`	`Shirik`	`some slash command or whatever`
`01:31.45`	`mikma`	`oh wow, someone has continued nquestlog`
`01:32.12`	`JoshBorke`	`i don't personally know how to do unit tests. i just think they are a good idea. i know dongle has unit tests that are performed before tagging`
`01:32.18`	`ckknight`	`Shirik: issue with that is that it'd need to save state somewhere`
`01:32.34`	`ckknight`	`Shirik: which embeds can't really do`
`01:32.55`	`ckknight`	`Shirik: unless...`
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`01:33.11`	`ckknight`	`I could make unit tests available if you have LibJoker-1.0 as a standalone`
`01:33.14`	`ckknight`	`or something`
`01:33.58`	`ckknight`	`well, it seems like a good idea to me, I'm gonna do it`
`01:34.10`	`JoshBorke`	`maybe instead of using trunk as where externals are pulled from you use tags?`
`01:34.26`	`CIA-22`	`03gagorian * r45475 10DrDamage/Data/ (Mage.lua Paladin.lua Priest.lua Shaman.lua):`
`01:34.26`	`CIA-22`	`DrDamage:`
`01:34.26`	`CIA-22`	`- Removed downrank from Gift of the Naaru`
`01:34.28`	`ckknight`	`no, that's not happening`
`01:34.30`	`ckknight`	`it's been discussed`
`01:34.39`	`JoshBorke`	`it was just an idea`
`01:34.55`	`JoshBorke`	`then you wouldn't have to muck about having things enabled only when stand-alone etc`
`01:35.22`	`ckknight`	`I really don't see how tags would help that`
`01:35.57`	`JoshBorke`	`because you could have different tags for embeddable and not embeddable`
`01:36.35`	`Kyahx`	`if anything you could enforce better quality control on tags`
`01:36.38`	`ckknight`	`no, I don't want to have two codepaths`
`01:37.41`	`Kyahx`	`but then you could also argue that the same effect would come from developing libs in branches, and merging 'stable' copies upstream to the trunk`
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`01:37.47`	`erb`	`hi`
`01:37.53`	`JoshBorke`	`what do you mean by codepaths? wouldn't you develop a single codepath in trunk and then when you tag you just include the debug stuff in tags? or why would you even need to include the debug stuff in the tag since it should be there for testing for release, imo`
`01:38.12`	`erb`	`can someone please tell me which mod is displaying this on my screen (got it from wowace) http://www.airzeraw.net:8888/wtfmod.jpg`
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`01:38.24`	`ckknight`	`oh well, I'm going to continue developing in trunk`
`01:38.30`	`ckknight`	`for now at least`
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`01:38.48`	`Kyahx`	`erb: I'd be willing to bet it's a cooldown mod...`
`01:38.55`	`Gngsk`	`erb, looks like antagonist`
`01:39.01`	`erb`	`dont have antagonist`
`01:39.09`	`erb`	`but it sure the shit is antagonizing me`
`01:39.16`	`JoshBorke`	`disable half your mods`
`01:39.17`	`Gngsk`	`/print GetMouseFocus():GetName()`
`01:39.18`	`erb`	`only cool down mod i have is "Cooldowncount"`
`01:39.18`	`Kyahx`	`Just start disabling things`
`01:39.19`	`erb`	`and that isnt it`
`01:39.24`	`JoshBorke`	`until you figure out what it is`
`01:39.25`	`kergoth`	`ckknight, what are the filters used for in parrot?`
`01:39.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`erb: CandyDice?`
`01:39.40`	`erb`	`thanks`
`01:39.45`	`ckknight`	`kergoth: it causes amounts less than the filter to not show`
`01:39.47`	`erb`	`lugMD, gngsk`
`01:39.47`	`erb`	`nice tip`
`01:39.52`	`kergoth`	`ah, okay, that makes sense`
`01:39.58`	`erb`	`why the shit does lugmd have those bars i wonder`
`01:39.59`	`kergoth`	`thanks`
`01:40.11`	`Gngsk`	`what's lugMD?`
`01:40.22`	`erb`	`suppose to help manage misdirection for hunters`
`01:41.06`	`Gngsk`	`show who has the buff and how long on whoever's cooldown`
`01:41.29`	`Gngsk`	`http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/7595/`
`01:41.39`	`erb`	`yeah that'd be cool if MD didnt already put a giant target sign and make a loud ass sound when u cast it`
`01:41.41`	`Gngsk`	`first screenshot`
`01:41.47`	`erb`	`oh and it also puts a buff on the person`
`01:41.54`	`erb`	`lol /lugmd showanchor off worked great :)`
`01:42.31`	`erb`	`looks like i can get some good use out of that though from the screenshot`
`01:42.38`	`erb`	`there's never any more then 2 hunters in our raids though`
`01:42.47`	`erb`	`looks nice if you have like 4 hunters or something`
`01:42.53`	`CIA-22`	`03funkydude * r45476 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Souls: add a 10 second Soul Scream cooldown bar`
`01:42.58`	`erb`	`ty for help guys/girls`
`01:43.28`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`getting this error (and variations of it) http://ace.pastey.net/71676 anyone know what to do about it? :>`
`01:45.06`	`[dRaCo]`	`install thesocial-1.0`
`01:45.21`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`which is? x)`
`01:45.52`	`Gngsk`	`it's a library`
`01:45.56`	`[dRaCo]`	`http://files.wowace.com/TheSocial-1.0/TheSocial-1.0-r45263.zip`
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`01:47.53`	`Wobwork`	`"Kevin Zuccato, head of the Australian High Tech Crime Centre in Canberra, says terrorists can gain training in games such as World of Warcraft in a simulated environment, using weapons that are identical to real-world armaments."`
`01:48.10`	`ckknight`	`...lol`
`01:48.57`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`lmfao`
`01:49.17`	`Keias`	`Terrorists use swords and axes now?`
`01:49.23`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I would :p`
`01:49.29`	`Lywellyn`	`Oh God, it's an Austrailian version of Jack Thompson. ><`
`01:49.30`	`Keias`	`and cast Frostbolts!`
`01:49.39`	`Keias`	`Fuck guns`
`01:49.45`	`Keias`	`Mana is easier to get than bullets!`
`01:49.53`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`picture leeroy jenkins with a skimask and suicide belt xD`
`01:49.56`	`Lywellyn`	`mana regenerates...bullets do not.`
`01:49.58`	`[dRaCo]`	`Insta pyro terrorists :/`
`01:50.12`	`Keias`	`I feel like such a nerd talking about this`
`01:50.14`	`Keias`	`I hate you guys`
`01:50.16`	`Wobwork`	`"Mr Jones says streaming video can be uploaded into SL and a scenario can easily be constructed whereby an experienced bomb-maker could demonstrate how to assemble bombs using his avatar to answer questions as he plays the video."`
`01:50.24`	`Wobwork`	`><`
`01:50.32`	`Wobwork`	`Why bring second life into it?`
`01:50.38`	`Wobwork`	`Why not just stream the webcam? =P`
`01:50.40`	`[dRaCo]`	`because.`
`01:50.48`	`Amadeo`	`Second Life is so stupid, I don't know why people talk about it`
`01:50.55`	`JoshBorke`	`where are the flight points in the BE starting area?`
`01:51.02`	`Wobwork`	`Sorry, we need the unneccessary complications =P`
`01:51.17`	`Wobwork`	`JB main city`
`01:51.26`	`Wobwork`	`Silvermoon or whatever =)`
`01:51.26`	`Lywellyn`	`There's only two: One just outside of Silvermoon, and in Tranquilien.`
`01:51.39`	`JoshBorke`	`thanks`
`01:51.53`	`Lywellyn`	`Beyond that, they ahve to use the Translocator Orb to go to Undercity. Crap, if you ask me.`
`01:52.58`	`[dRaCo]`	`Wobwork: got a link?`
`01:53.08`	`Wobwork`	`http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22163811-2,00.html`
`01:53.18`	`[dRaCo]`	`thx`
`01:54.19`	`Lywellyn`	`Anyone use WoWLua? Cladhaire seems to like to stay away...`
`01:54.35`	`[dRaCo]`	`~seen cladhaire`
`01:54.37`	`purl`	`cladhaire <n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 11d 6h 25m 1s ago, saying: 'true!'.`
`01:54.43`	`[dRaCo]`	`uhm.`
`01:54.46`	`Wobwork`	`Clad's travelling`
`01:54.53`	`Lywellyn`	`holy crap. 11 days.`
`01:54.57`	`Wobwork`	`I think he's in NM today`
`01:55.08`	`JoshBorke`	`he was in MI just yesterday (or was that this morning?)`
`01:55.19`	`JoshBorke`	`or is it MZ or MS? i dunno. missouri`
`01:55.23`	`Lywellyn`	`well, that's why I'm asking if anyone else knows how to use it :3 I can't seem to get it to be able to execute whole blocks of code instead of just one line...`
`01:55.37`	`JoshBorke`	`pretty sure you can't`
`01:55.39`	`Kyahx`	`I still use TinyPad for big scripts`
`01:55.43`	`[dRaCo]`	`it's just for one line, afaik`
`01:55.45`	`Kyahx`	`WowLua for small tests`
`01:56.05`	`Lywellyn`	`Damn.`
`01:56.47`	`mikma`	`[dRaCo]: try ~seen clad\|away`
`01:56.48`	`Lywellyn`	`How can you get TinyPad to return values? wait....chatframe, right?`
`01:57.15`	`JoshBorke`	`print to a chatframe`
`01:57.21`	`Lywellyn`	`thought so.`
`01:57.24`	`[dRaCo]`	`mikma: thx, was just helping :)`
`01:57.34`	`JoshBorke`	`i use DevTools and just DevTools_Dump variables as i need`
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`01:57.42`	`Lywellyn`	`I had forgotten about TinyPad's ability to execute scripts.`
`01:57.50`	`Kyahx`	`that's the main reason I use it :P`
`01:58.03`	`JoshBorke`	`that's the ONLY reason i use it`
`01:58.07`	`Lywellyn`	`I use it....for its' notepad feature XD but now I can use it for that`
`01:58.19`	`JoshBorke`	`i guess i use it for simon says too`
`01:58.21`	`CIA-22`	`03funkydude * r45477 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council: add Flamestrike target alerts`
`01:59.56`	`Lywellyn`	`how do you print to a chatframe again? I figure someone's gotta know off the top of their head, so I don't have to go digging :3`
`02:00.18`	Funkeh`	`DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() i think`
`02:00.48`	Funkeh`	`or if you mean with ace its self:Print()`
`02:00.48`	`Lywellyn`	`Yep, that's it. :)`
`02:01.21`	`CIA-22`	`03sayclub * r45478 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua:`
`02:01.21`	`CIA-22`	`BigWigs:`
`02:01.21`	`CIA-22`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:02.52`	`Gagorian`	`Anyone remember how long arena season 1 lasted?`
`02:03.22`	Funkeh`	`5 months?`
`02:03.27`	`ccKep`	`is :OnDisable called upon reloadui / logout?`
`02:04.17`	Funkeh`	`Lywellyn DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("message", r, g, b)`
`02:04.32`	`Gagorian`	Funkeh`: It didn't start at TBC release imo
`02:04.33`	`Lywellyn`	`ooh awesome. color.`
`02:04.44`	`Lywellyn`	`r, g, and b a value 0 to 255?`
`02:04.55`	Funkeh`	`i think so :p`
`02:05.20`	Funkeh`	`Gagorian: about 1 month after`
`02:05.58`	`Gagorian`	`Hrmm, I guess that's no good in guesstimating how long season 2 will last`
`02:06.03`	`Lywellyn`	`Can you use "local pt = AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0")" in TinyPad?`
`02:06.29`	`Antiarc`	`I suspect not`
`02:06.37`	`Lywellyn`	`Hmm...okay.`
`02:06.38`	`Antiarc`	`Since each loadstring should have its own scope`
`02:06.48`	`Antiarc`	`remove the local and it should be fine`
`02:07.03`	`mikma`	`anyone know pictures of the chinese/something version of undeads?`
`02:07.21`	`Antiarc`	`yeah`
`02:09.01`	`Gagorian`	`mikma: http://bbs.wowchina.com/wow/download.aspx?type=1&file=20070622/2007062220065785492365_1024_768_11.jpg`
`02:09.18`	`mikma`	`thanks Gagorian :)`
`02:09.25`	`Lywellyn`	`Using GetSetStringUncompressed in PT3, it returns values such as 118:80...what's the :80?`
`02:09.31`	`Cryect`	`Lywellyn color ranges in WoW are always between 0 and 1`
`02:09.48`	`Lywellyn`	`0 and 1? o_O`
`02:09.51`	`Cryect`	`Or at least all the ones I've used`
`02:09.54`	`Cryect`	`for r, g, and b`
`02:09.58`	`Gagorian`	`yes, it's retarded`
`02:10.04`	`Cryect`	`because in DX and OpenGL thats how you specify`
`02:10.05`	`Gagorian`	`so just divide with 255 for the value`
`02:10.07`	`Cryect`	`how is it retarded`
`02:10.12`	`Lywellyn`	`ohh, okay.`
`02:10.14`	`Cryect`	`the 3d card works in flaots`
`02:10.22`	`Cryect`	`or fixed point`
`02:10.43`	`Gagorian`	`.. It could easily be 255 through API`
`02:10.45`	`CIA-22`	`03fenlis * r45479 10BigWigs/SC/Karathress.lua:`
`02:10.45`	`CIA-22`	`BigWigs:`
`02:10.45`	`CIA-22`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:10.51`	`Antiarc`	`I like it being 0..1`
`02:11.01`	`Cryect`	`255 would imply a really overbright color :-p`
`02:11.06`	`Cryect`	`which is good if you were using bloom I gues`
`02:11.29`	`Cryect`	`255 is harder to think in for people not used to powers of 2`
`02:11.42`	`Lywellyn`	`So I need to know what the number after the colon is, and how to effectively remove it if it's not needed for GetItemInfo`
`02:11.45`	`Cryect`	`also doesn't have real good specifications for things like 0.5 etc`
`02:12.20`	`Antiarc`	`http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2932/cowtip2fw1.png`
`02:12.22`	`Antiarc`	`<3 Cowtip`
`02:12.49`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Antiarc: how'd you make that?`
`02:12.53`	`Antiarc`	`Cowtip.`
`02:13.11`	Funkeh`	`how teh fuck did you get spec`
`02:13.21`	`Gagorian`	`Armory datamine`
`02:13.22`	`*** join/#wowace faCe\| (n=face@pD955BBE3.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`02:13.30`	Funkeh`	`lol yeah like im gonna load that`
`02:13.31`	`Antiarc`	`That's Tattle`
`02:13.32`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`how teh fuck did you Armory datamine? x)`
`02:13.37`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`tattle?`
`02:13.41`	`Gagorian`	`yes`
`02:13.49`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`~tattle`
`02:13.53`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`gues not`
`02:14.22`	Funkeh`	`wtb GetTargetMofoSpec()`
`02:14.47`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`indeed`
`02:14.49`	`Gagorian`	`How is tattle with EU battlegroup data?`
`02:14.57`	`Antiarc`	`No idea`
`02:16.54`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45480 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua:`
`02:16.54`	`CIA-22`	`LibJoker-1.0 - add method :AddUnitTest, currently unit tests are always run, but this will change later (enable by slash command or somesuch).`
`02:16.54`	`CIA-22`	`- added a unit test to check recycling functions.`
`02:17.28`	`Lywellyn`	`mmm...I might be closer finally...`
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`02:20.08`	`Antiarc`	`I just typed /rl into a webpage.`
`02:20.09`	`Antiarc`	`:/`
`02:20.29`	`[dRaCo]`	`nerd.`
`02:20.52`	`Gagorian`	`!ar 1000`
`02:20.52`	`ThraeBot`	`Gagorian: Arena rating from 1000 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 2272, 5v5: 1986`
`02:21.02`	`Gagorian`	`should play some 2v2 then!`
`02:21.13`	`Gagorian`	`Only problem is getting rating down to zero`
`02:21.20`	Funkeh`	`oh yeah`
`02:21.22`	Funkeh`	`i got 500 points`
`02:21.33`	Funkeh`	`at 2100 now i can taste that dagger!`
`02:22.03`	`Gagorian`	`I got 818 from 3v3`
`02:22.05`	`Gagorian`	`need moar :l`
`02:22.35`	`Gagorian`	`!ap 900`
`02:22.35`	`ThraeBot`	`Gagorian: Arena points from a rating of 900 is, 2v2: 103, 3v3: 118, 5v5: 148`
`02:22.40`	Funkeh`	`i got 500 from 2v2 and 3v3, rating sucks at 1600~ for both :p`
`02:23.14`	`Gagorian`	`!ar 818`
`02:23.14`	`ThraeBot`	`Gagorian: Arena rating from 818 points is, 2v2: 2157, 3v3: 2006, 5v5: 1842`
`02:23.57`	`Keias`	`!ar 1812`
`02:23.57`	`ThraeBot`	`Keias: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life.`
`02:24.07`	`Keias`	`foiled`
`02:24.07`	`Gagorian`	`lewl`
`02:24.14`	`liquidzoo`	`lol`
`02:24.25`	`Gagorian`	`!ar 2400`
`02:24.25`	`ThraeBot`	`Gagorian: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life.`
`02:24.32`	`Gagorian`	`!`
`02:24.38`	`Gagorian`	`!ap 2400`
`02:24.39`	`ThraeBot`	`Gagorian: Arena points from a rating of 2400 is, 2v2: 919, 3v3: 1050, 5v5: 1313`
`02:25.07`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:25.13`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`02:26.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`can't find it x)`
`02:26.31`	`jme`	`sucks when you can't find anyone on your server willing to loan you 5k for your mount`
`02:26.46`	`jme`	`Lywellyn didn't like that comment`
`02:26.47`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`02:26.51`	`[dRaCo]`	`the whole 5k? o0`
`02:26.56`	`jme`	`yeah, i'm flat broke :o`
`02:26.58`	Funkeh`	`omg what a cruel world eh?`
`02:27.02`	`buu`	`!ap 1500`
`02:27.02`	`ThraeBot`	`buu: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 263, 3v3: 300, 5v5: 376`
`02:27.14`	`buu`	`!ap 2000`
`02:27.15`	`ThraeBot`	`buu: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 711, 3v3: 812, 5v5: 1015`
`02:27.20`	`buu`	`Maths is wonderful.`
`02:27.28`	`jme`	`basically i can make the money, it will just take forever on the regular flyer`
`02:27.38`	`jme`	`i've even offered a 20% interest return`
`02:27.44`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I had 2.5k`
`02:27.59`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`blew it on blacksmith plans :<`
`02:28.05`	`jme`	`lol`
`02:28.30`	`ckknight`	`okay, so I'm thinking unit tests should only be run when (a) they are specifically set to run by a slash command. (b) they are in standalone form, not embedded`
`02:28.33`	`ckknight`	`any disagreements?`
`02:30.02`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`wtf, SCT now shows spell icons?`
`02:30.06`	`[dRaCo]`	`in standalone form?`
`02:30.08`	`Amadeo`	`hahah`
`02:30.16`	`ckknight`	`[dRaCo]: as their own addons`
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`02:30.21`	`ckknight`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: yea, he stole my idea!`
`02:30.22`	`liquidzoo`	`I have no idea what that means, but sure. Sounds good`
`02:30.31`	`ckknight`	`gah, who would steal ideas like that?`
`02:30.40`	Funkeh`	`you`
`02:30.42`	`ckknight`	`after I put in all that hard work of coming up with the idea for a combat text addon`
`02:30.44`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`02:30.47`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`02:30.47`	`[dRaCo]`	`oh, ok. totally agree then, ckk.`
`02:30.59`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:31.02`	`Amadeo`	`Hey, Greyhoof was totally pissed when other people started making combat text addons :P`
`02:31.06`	`Amadeo`	`remember? :P`
`02:31.09`	`art3mis`	`you have a combat text addon ckk?`
`02:31.13`	`ckknight`	`Parrot`
`02:31.14`	`art3mis`	`i thought you only made libs`
`02:31.17`	`art3mis`	`;)`
`02:31.23`	`ckknight`	`I make frameworks, too`
`02:31.30`	`Amadeo`	`and villains`
`02:31.32`	`art3mis`	`you should make a unit frames thingy too`
`02:31.43`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I'm doing battlegrounds with nothing but Zin'rokh equipped :>`
`02:31.49`	`art3mis`	`and possibly some sort of mapping util to keep track of herbs and quest items and such`
`02:32.00`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`there's enough unitframe addons out there tbh`
`02:32.07`	`RogueShadow`	`oh I know! A bar addon!`
`02:32.10`	`Amadeo`	`never enough unit frame addons`
`02:32.14`	`RogueShadow`	`That lets you add bars, with "plugins"`
`02:32.21`	`liquidzoo`	`most of them are exactly the same, just with a different configuration panel`
`02:32.27`	`ckknight`	`art3mis: I was thinking about a tooltip addon`
`02:33.15`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: Most of the tooltip addons today have weird bugs, like the one where cursor offset/placement doesn't work ;)`
`02:33.28`	`ckknight`	`bah`
`02:33.34`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`~cowtip`
`02:33.35`	`purl`	`The tooltip addon that goes "moo". It'll graze your pastures.`
`02:33.43`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: it works fine for me`
`02:33.46`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ckknight author of tooltip, no?`
`02:33.47`	`RogueShadow`	`~parrot`
`02:33.48`	`purl`	`methinks parrot is the image displayed from the ipaq's default bootloader see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF, or http://www.lobstertech.com/code/phoneparrot/, or a floating combat text addon for WoW`
`02:34.00`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: Hm, strange..you try the cursor offset and bring it up a bit?`
`02:34.13`	`ckknight`	`cursor offet to the top?`
`02:34.29`	`RogueShadow`	`chanserv list ubuntu`
`02:34.32`	`Amadeo`	`still bound to cursor, but a floating half an inch above it`
`02:34.47`	`Amadeo`	`when I did it, the tooltip went up and right for some reason`
`02:34.53`	`ckknight`	`well, works fine for me`
`02:34.56`	`Amadeo`	`hm`
`02:35.14`	`Amadeo`	`I'll mess with it again, see if it was something quirky`
`02:36.14`	`Amadeo`	`gotta run for now though!`
`02:36.53`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`author of cowtip is?`
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`02:36.59`	`ckknight`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: me`
`02:37.09`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yay, I was right`
`02:37.53`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`for some reason the only color the bacground of tooltips will take is black, no matter what I set hostile player bgcolor to...any ideas?`
`02:38.16`	`Keias`	`are you using Skinner?`
`02:38.43`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`no`
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`02:39.22`	`Keias`	`No idea then :(`
`02:39.56`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`skinner never worked for me, for some reason...made all my other addons buggy as hell :<`
`02:40.27`	`liquidzoo`	`I had a similar issue with skinner`
`02:40.35`	`liquidzoo`	`that was about a year ago, though`
`02:40.46`	`ckknight`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: what background texture are you using?`
`02:41.31`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`whatever is on by default`
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`02:42.48`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`blizzard tooltip`
`02:47.32`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ckknight: know anything about the second healthbar lying horizontally below my cowtip?`
`02:48.19`	`ckknight`	`no`
`02:48.36`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`damnit`
`02:49.14`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I have health and power bar set up on the sides, but for some reason there's a health bar horizontally below the tooltip as well`
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`02:56.43`	`art3mis`	`god i hate dying in the new race starting areas`
`02:56.56`	`Wobwork`	`lrn2noob?`
`02:57.00`	`art3mis`	`almost every death ive had so far has resulted in at least a 1k run`
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`02:59.52`	`liquidzoo`	`I hate dying. Doesn't matter where it is`
`03:00.29`	`art3mis`	`heh i mainly dont mind dying i just hate the running`
`03:00.35`	`art3mis`	`cuz its sooo slow and boring`
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`03:04.01`	`Wobwork`	`lrn2nelf`
`03:04.09`	`Wobwork`	`or lrn2shammy`
`03:04.28`	`Wobwork`	`or lrn2partyasaresserwithalock`
`03:05.35`	`Wobwork`	`alas googlecode, I knew you, Horatio =P`
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`03:10.15`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i'll know YOU!`
`03:10.33`	`ckknight`	`Wobwork: ?`
`03:10.55`	`Prophh`	`can super mana potions proc discoverys of flasks?`
`03:11.07`	`[dRaCo]`	`afaik yes, Prophh`
`03:11.14`	`Prophh`	`thx`
`03:12.08`	`ccKep`	`ckknight: AceDB :OnDatabaseCleanup for internal use only?`
`03:12.08`	`ccKep`	`(isn't documented in the api, thats why I ask)`
`03:12.11`	`ckknight`	`I think I added that when the wiki went down`
`03:12.18`	`ckknight`	`it's not needed in most cases`
`03:12.24`	`ckknight`	`it's there as a "just-in-case"`
`03:12.27`	`ckknight`	`you can use it, no problem`
`03:12.40`	`ckknight`	`it fires on PLAYER_LOGOUT right before AceDB mangles the database`
`03:12.51`	`ccKep`	`thats what I need it for ^.^`
`03:13.07`	`ccKep`	`but something fucks up my tables, need to find out what..`
`03:13.09`	Funkeh`	`mangle it, bitch`
`03:13.19`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45481 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua:`
`03:13.19`	`CIA-22`	`LibJoker-1.0 - add two more unit tests`
`03:13.19`	`CIA-22`	`- add output for unit tests (green for pass, red for fail, details the failures)`
`03:13.19`	`CIA-22`	`- fix some bugs as a result of the unit tests.`
`03:13.48`	`CIA-22`	`03funkydude * r45482 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: bugfix`
`03:14.05`	`[dRaCo]`	`what does libjoker do?`
`03:15.17`	Funkeh`	`makes a joke of your addons, hahaha`
`03:15.26`	`ckknight`	`essentially.`
`03:15.29`	`ckknight`	`it also fights batman`
`03:16.10`	`[dRaCo]`	`heard the batman one before... any real info? :�`
`03:16.24`	`ccKep`	`http://ace.pastey.net/71678 << man... where does that highlighted stuff come from?`
`03:16.31`	`ckknight`	`[dRaCo]: it might become Ace3`
`03:16.55`	`[dRaCo]`	`w00t.`
`03:18.47`	`ckknight`	`basically, it's a reworking of all the Ace2 stuff, to be slimmer, lighter, have a better API, etc.`
`03:19.36`	`[dRaCo]`	`backward compatible?`
`03:19.47`	`ckknight`	`no`
`03:19.59`	`ckknight`	`if it were backward compatible, we'd stay at Ace2`
`03:20.01`	`ccKep`	`nvm @ pastey`
`03:20.45`	`[dRaCo]`	`would make the change easier, though... but you're prolly right`
`03:22.32`	`ckknight`	`it's not backwards-compatible for a reason, things change too much`
`03:23.53`	`ckknight`	`I'm allowed to remove things by having it not be backwards-compatible`
`03:25.30`	`[dRaCo]`	`nods`
`03:26.31`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45483 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - add another unit test`
`03:27.24`	`Bejitt`	`hmm does Trac not update immediately?`
`03:27.26`	`Birdemani`	`so could joker essentially be ace3 or ace2 light?`
`03:28.48`	`ckknight`	`Ace3, specifically`
`03:28.58`	`ckknight`	`which will be lighter, cleaner, and resemble Ace2`
`03:29.06`	`ckknight`	`I wouldn't call it ace2 light, though`
`03:29.15`	`ckknight`	`seeing as the internal structure is completely changed`
`03:31.03`	`ccKep`	`just as I started getting familar with ace2..`
`03:31.09`	`ccKep`	`<< man behind the moon, woot`
`03:31.56`	`Wobwork`	`ckknight: yus?`
`03:32.11`	`ckknight`	`Wobwork: hrm?`
`03:32.18`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`"Have you HEARD of Ikea?"`
`03:32.40`	`Wobwork`	`(1:11:28 PM) ckknight: Wobwork: ?`
`03:33.55`	`ckknight`	`Wobwork: no idea`
`03:34.19`	`Bejitt`	`"<Wobwork> alas googlecode, I knew you, Horatio =P"`
`03:34.47`	`ckknight`	`oh, yea`
`03:34.53`	`ckknight`	`did you forsake googlecode?`
`03:34.56`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`sigh, I gotta remember to not hit Take Cash in Bulkmail2Inbox :/`
`03:34.57`	`Wobwork`	`nay`
`03:34.58`	`ckknight`	`or did it forsake you?`
`03:35.01`	`Wobwork`	`googlecode has forsaken me`
`03:35.02`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`locks me up every time`
`03:35.05`	`ckknight`	`alas`
`03:35.06`	`Wobwork`	`(1:11:28 PM) ckknight: Wobwork: ?`
`03:35.08`	`Wobwork`	`er`
`03:35.09`	`ckknight`	`how come?`
`03:35.11`	`Wobwork`	`Server Error The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request.Please try again in 30 seconds.`
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`03:38.17`	`CIA-22`	`03funkydude * r45484 10BigWigs_AQ40/Skeram.lua: BigWigs_AQ40: Skeram: cleanups, tweaks & sync`
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`03:45.22`	`Bejitt`	`the wiki was restored at the beginning of July, right?`
`03:46.14`	`ckknight`	`restored?`
`03:46.32`	`Bejitt`	`well`
`03:46.35`	`Bejitt`	`restarted :X`
`03:46.45`	`ckknight`	`yea, that's about right`
`03:46.51`	`Speeddymon`	`anyone else getting stuck at authenticating tonight?`
`03:47.33`	`Bejitt`	`ok, that explains the Category:Library then`
`03:48.03`	`Bejitt`	`Kaelten didnt re-run SVNBot through all the TOC's after fixing the library categories :(`
`03:48.28`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Hmm.`
`03:48.37`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`Mothership Wit seems like a fairly good beer.`
`03:48.45`	`Bejitt`	`i'm gonna be bad and edit a few TOC_Data files`
`03:49.13`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45485 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/ (LibJoker-1.0.lua LibJoker-1.0.toc):`
`03:49.14`	`CIA-22`	`LibJoker-1.0 - unit testing is now off by default.`
`03:49.14`	`CIA-22`	`- unit testing is controlled by /jokerunit and the results are stored in a saved variable.`
`03:49.14`	`CIA-22`	`- unit testing only works if LibJoker-1.0 is a standalone.`
`03:51.52`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45486 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - if libraries specify the unit tests, only run if the libraries are in standalone form. Embeds shouldn't be running unit tests.`
`03:52.57`	`RogueShadow`	`mmm.. gl accelerated 3d desktops are fun`
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`03:53.18`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45487 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - if unit tests aren't going to be run, delete the functions asap.`
`03:54.18`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`raaah`
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`03:54.53`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45488 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - cache globals.`
`03:54.54`	`ckknight`	`raaah?`
`03:55.05`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`indeed`
`03:55.33`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`hm...almost 6am..time to go to bed`
`03:55.57`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`cba :>`
`03:56.09`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`someone please save me from that second healthbar! :<`
`03:56.57`	`Wobwork`	`does -anyone- understand what the hell vipermaverick is on about?`
`03:57.03`	`Wobwork`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7731.msg126402;topicseen#msg126402`
`03:57.34`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`does anyone care?`
`03:57.35`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45489 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - bugfixes with unit tests.`
`03:59.05`	`ckknight`	`I believe he is what you would call a "nub"`
`03:59.18`	`Antiarc`	`nubsauce, even.`
`03:59.31`	`ckknight`	`quite.`
`04:03.24`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Vipermaveric's punctuation ain't exactly gravy O.o`
`04:03.37`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it's incredibly hard to read his posts`
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`04:05.16`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i like gravy`
`04:06.45`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`i'm also pretty sure that I lost a few iq points reading that post`
`04:06.58`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it's like he's only got letters and one symbol on his keyboard`
`04:07.28`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`"Ok Where did I lose you."`
`04:07.46`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`wouldn't a questionmark be in order? or does my grammar just suck donkeyballs?`
`04:08.02`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`I like how he says he loses people a lot when he talks. It's like "no, really?"`
`04:08.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`indeed`
`04:10.04`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`seems like I'm the only person online on my server O.o`
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`04:11.44`	`krunk-`	`any recommendations for a trade skill mod? The feature I want most is being able to make lists of items and quantities that I want to make and it give me mat totals`
`04:12.54`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`there's one called advanced trade frame/window or something...think it's on ui.worldofwar`
`04:14.06`	`krunk-`	`nice`
`04:14.38`	`krunk-`	`jigsaw had a lot of promise, but it conflicts with manufac and bugs out on me a lot :P`
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`04:15.04`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ckknight: jigsaw?`
`04:15.13`	`krunk-`	`no it's someone else, sec`
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`04:15.36`	`krunk-`	`jjsheets`
`04:17.11`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`13k hp unbuffed...tasty :>`
`04:17.24`	`krunk-`	`what class?`
`04:17.33`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`warrior`
`04:17.40`	`krunk-`	`damn`
`04:17.47`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`?`
`04:17.57`	`Aenslaed`	`in tanking gear?`
`04:17.57`	`krunk-`	`that's a lot of hp`
`04:18.03`	`Wobwork`	`you need more`
`04:18.05`	`krunk-`	`oh, not bad`
`04:18.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`in tanking gear yes`
`04:18.17`	`Wobwork`	`17 perhaps`
`04:18.20`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`it's not bad, but as great as it could be.`
`04:18.25`	`xyu`	`he didn't tell you though, that he's level 44`
`04:18.29`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`not bad considering my guild ain't even doing kara yet`
`04:18.29`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`depends on the level of gear`
`04:19.36`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`13k unbuffed will be fine for starting kara...`
`04:19.41`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`yeah`
`04:20.02`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`somehow I managed to reach 21.5k hp today O.o`
`04:21.06`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`not quite sure how though`
`04:21.22`	`Keias`	`is that with 490 def?`
`04:21.30`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`499, actually`
`04:21.38`	`Keias`	`Tauren?`
`04:21.40`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`aye`
`04:21.42`	`Keias`	`Ahh`
`04:21.46`	`Keias`	`Sounds about like my warrior`
`04:21.48`	`Keias`	`except I'm an orc`
`04:21.58`	`Keias`	`less HP, but thats cause of racials :(`
`04:22.05`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`orcs are smelly :<`
`04:22.25`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`moocow ftw`
`04:22.40`	`Keias`	`Your face is in the middle of your chest!`
`04:22.41`	`Keias`	`Freak`
`04:23.06`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`lmao`
`04:23.14`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`tauren warrior > all`
`04:23.38`	`Keias`	`I can't stand to look at a tauren`
`04:23.49`	`Keias`	`or else I would've went Tauren for the HP bonus`
`04:24.06`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`taurens are awesome`
`04:24.32`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`nothing's like having a huge ironclad bull come running at you and smack you in the face with a gigantic fucking twohander :>`
`04:24.53`	`Keias`	`One with their face in the middle of their chest, no less!`
`04:25.02`	`Keias`	`It's some huge pet peeve to me, and I dunno why lol`
`04:25.11`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it's above the chest`
`04:25.26`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I don't have pet peeves...I have major psychotic fucking hatreds.`
`04:25.39`	`Keias`	`isn't that a carlin line?`
`04:25.47`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yes it is`
`04:25.54`	`Keias`	`lol, thought it sounded familiar`
`04:26.00`	`ckknight`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: what about Jigsaw?`
`04:26.03`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`true story though`
`04:26.09`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ckknight: I don't know :>`
`04:26.16`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`dunno what it is even`
`04:26.37`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`keias please help me remember`
`04:26.50`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`is it from you are all diseased?`
`04:28.24`	`Wobwork`	`"Some, they drown their sorrows Mine, they like to swim... Pour another one barman, cause the rodent got back in..."`
`04:28.48`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`O.o say wha?`
`04:29.38`	`Wobwork`	`Lyrics =)`
`04:29.42`	`Wobwork`	`By the Whitlams`
`04:29.49`	`Wobwork`	`utterly fantastic band`
`04:29.52`	`CIA-22`	`03funkydude * r45490 10BigWigs_AQ40/BugFamily.lua: BigWigs_AQ40: BugFamily: tweaks, cleanups & sync`
`04:30.00`	`Wobwork`	`their lyrics are great to listen to`
`04:30.08`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`what style music is it?`
`04:30.12`	`Wobwork`	`hm`
`04:30.39`	`Wobwork`	`http://www.last.fm/music/The+Whitlams`
`04:30.51`	`Wobwork`	`The style of music they play has been described as muscular piano based pop/rock, however it has been quite varied over the life of the band`
`04:30.53`	`Wobwork`	`heeh`
`04:31.05`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`hm`
`04:31.40`	`Wobwork`	`They have some fantastic turns of phrase`
`04:32.02`	`Wobwork`	`"She was one in a million So there's five more just in New South Wales"`
`04:34.24`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`"What are you going to do with it?" "Send a message?" "To who?" "To /whom/?"`
`04:42.56`	`CIA-22`	`03funkydude * r45491 10BigWigs_AQ40/Sartura.lua: BigWigs_AQ40: Sartura: tweaks`
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`04:47.37`	Funkeh`	`later folks`
`04:49.17`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45492 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - optimization`
`04:49.50`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45493 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua:`
`04:49.50`	`CIA-22`	`LibJokerEvent-1.0 - add unit test.`
`04:49.50`	`CIA-22`	`- bugfix in :RemoveAllEventListeners()`
`04:54.13`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45494 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua: LibJokerEvent-1.0 - add another unit test`
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`04:57.35`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45495 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - fix coloring for /jokerunit`
`05:00.56`	`Kemayo`	`Registering approval of unit testing.`
`05:01.57`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: ?`
`05:03.47`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`jesus.`
`05:03.57`	`NightHawkTheSane`	`1.3gb of dumped cores sitting on my drive. ><`
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`05:05.44`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: It's good that it's being done`
`05:06.13`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: yea, basically, unit tests will run if things are standalone and enabled through the /jokerunit slash command`
`05:06.25`	`ckknight`	`basically means that I'll run em every time`
`05:06.43`	`ckknight`	`and it also means that every library should have unit tests without issue`
`05:06.44`	`Roartindon`	`ckknight: Do you think it'd be okay if I merged locals.lua in MobHealth(3) into the main MobHealth3.lua? at the moment, it's polluting global namespace with variables MOBHEALTH_UnitCreatureType_Demon, MOBHEALTH_UnitCreatureType_Beast, and makes them global lookups in MobHealth3.lua instead of local checks`
`05:07.01`	`ckknight`	`Roartindon: ouchies.`
`05:07.09`	`ckknight`	`yea, get rid of the globals.`
`05:07.19`	`Roartindon`	`okay, will do`
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`05:11.47`	`Wobwork`	`vhaarr: you about?`
`05:12.34`	`vhaarr`	`Wobwork: yes`
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`05:13.54`	`CIA-22`	`03diablohu * r45496 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua:`
`05:13.54`	`CIA-22`	`AtlasLoot:`
`05:13.54`	`CIA-22`	`- update zhCN`
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`05:17.02`	`Wobwork`	`vhaarr: I've not installed BossWhisperer, but am I understanding it correctly in that it records all whispers sent during combat while in /dnd, and on completion of combat, reports the whispers along with the time in combat?`
`05:18.08`	`vhaarr`	`Wobwork: nah, almost -- I haven't read the code in some time, but what I think it does is that when you're fighting a boss, it will block -all- whispers (dnd status has nothing to do with it), and at the end of a boss fight it will send a whisper to all the people that whispered you and tell them the fight is over.`
`05:18.23`	`vhaarr`	`I might be mistaken, simply because I wrote it and then abandoned it`
`05:18.57`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45497 10Joker/LibJokerTimer-1.0/LibJokerTimer-1.0.lua:`
`05:18.57`	`CIA-22`	`LibJokerTimer-1.0 - add unit test`
`05:18.57`	`CIA-22`	`- bugfixings.`
`05:20.31`	`vhaarr`	`Wobwork: right, and when someone whispers you, they'll get a "I'm busy fighting <boss>, he's currently at 90%."`
`05:24.17`	`CIA-22`	`03roartindon * r45498 10MobHealth/ (MobHealth.toc MobHealth3.lua locals.lua): (log message trimmed)`
`05:24.17`	`CIA-22`	`MobHealth`
`05:24.17`	`CIA-22`	`- Removed locals.lua that was inserting variables into global namespace`
`05:24.17`	`CIA-22`	`- Added Demon, Beast to AceLocale tables, and then cache them locally`
`05:24.17`	`CIA-22`	`- Changed string.format("%s:%d", name, level) to name..":"..level. Informal`
`05:24.18`	`CIA-22`	`1-million iteration tests show that concat operator takes less than half the`
`05:24.22`	`CIA-22`	`time of string.format, even if the string.format function is cached into a local`
`05:26.38`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`how can I link an item in a macro?`
`05:29.22`	`Comxx`	`Antiarc you there ?`
`05:30.33`	`Wobwork`	`ah, so it blocks but doesn't store`
`05:30.44`	`Wobwork`	`Mind if just incorporate that into HeyFu wholesale?`
`05:31.49`	`vhaarr`	`I don't see why I would mind`
`05:33.08`	`Diao`	`what's wrong with files.wowace.com o_O`
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`05:33.17`	`Diao`	`it's not updating when i use WAU`
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`05:36.36`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`how can I link an item in a macro?`
`05:37.58`	`CIA-22`	`03aldmehr * r45499 10ReadySpells/ (Core.lua Readme.txt ReadySpells.toc): ReadySpells: v0.76, Added Rogue config, other minor updates.`
`05:40.18`	`ckknight`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: shrug`
`05:41.01`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45500 10Joker/LibJokerConsole-1.0/LibJokerConsole-1.0.lua: LibJokerConsole-2.0 - add unit tests`
`05:42.09`	`vhaarr`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: we heard you the first time`
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`05:42.18`	`vhaarr`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: you need to use /script CreateMacro`
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`05:47.01`	`theoddone33`	`drdamage tooltip says cleave does 22 damage`
`05:47.07`	`theoddone33`	`so uh...`
`05:47.13`	`theoddone33`	`I think there's a bug`
`05:47.21`	`vhaarr`	`it does weapon damage + 22 ?`
`05:47.33`	`theoddone33`	`tooltip says weapon damage plus 10`
`05:47.34`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`+70`
`05:47.37`	`theoddone33`	`at my rank`
`05:47.42`	`Diao`	`what's your weapon`
`05:48.00`	`Diao`	`actually`
`05:48.02`	`Diao`	`you're right it's bugged`
`05:48.05`	`Diao`	`my cleave says 184 damage`
`05:48.13`	`Diao`	`and when i mouseover it's 872`
`05:48.17`	`theoddone33`	`it's this`
`05:48.18`	`Diao`	`average total is 184 o_o`
`05:48.31`	`theoddone33`	`"Hits: 2 x ~11"`
`05:48.45`	`theoddone33`	`it's fine until that ~11...`
`05:48.53`	`theoddone33`	`but maybe that's the "weapon damage plus 10"`
`05:49.07`	`Diao`	`yeah mine says 2x~91.8`
`05:49.15`	`Diao`	`but that's way low`
`05:49.25`	`theoddone33`	`think there's just a typo in there somewhere`
`05:49.36`	`theoddone33`	`Gagorian: ping`
`05:52.42`	`theoddone33`	`overpower is the same calculation mostly and it works`
`05:53.29`	`theoddone33`	`it doesn't have a Hits modifier though`
`05:53.35`	`Diao`	`heroic strike is off too`
`05:53.38`	`Diao`	`seems like instants are working`
`05:53.42`	`Diao`	`but on next attacks aren't`
`05:53.53`	`theoddone33`	`ahh yeah`
`05:53.58`	`Diao`	`it's not adding in the weapon damage`
`05:53.59`	`Diao`	`for on next attack`
`05:54.04`	`Diao`	`that's probably why`
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`06:01.35`	`theoddone33`	`the attack tooltip shows mainhanddamage too`
`06:01.45`	`theoddone33`	`before I updated it showed combined when dual wielding`
`06:01.52`	`theoddone33`	`could be intentional`
`06:02.16`	`theoddone33`	`I was sad when i respecced and it went down though, hehe`
`06:13.16`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45501 10Joker/LibJokerHook-1.0/LibJokerHook-1.0.lua: LibJokerHook-1.0 - add unit tests`
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`06:16.49`	`CIA-22`	`03snago * r45502 10Damnation/Damnation.lua:`
`06:16.49`	`CIA-22`	`Damnation:`
`06:16.49`	`CIA-22`	`- Fix to auto-mode for druids and warriors.`
`06:16.49`	`CIA-22`	`- Various tweaks and fixes.`
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`06:25.08`	`Toncho`	`Guys.`
`06:25.16`	`Toncho`	`I'm in a serious depression right now`
`06:25.22`	`ckknight`	`k?`
`06:25.25`	`Toncho`	`I JUST quit World of Warcraft.`
`06:25.28`	`ckknight`	`does anyone seriously use Ace1 anymore?`
`06:25.32`	`ckknight`	`oh noes`
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`06:25.39`	`Toncho`	`I think I'm losing all hope`
`06:25.41`	`Toncho`	`For.`
`06:25.43`	`Toncho`	`Survival.`
`06:25.47`	`ckknight`	`cause, I mean, I'm wondering if I can overwrite _G.Ace`
`06:25.50`	`ckknight`	`without issue`
`06:26.05`	`Toncho`	`You nigger, talk about me.`
`06:26.06`	`ckknight`	`Toncho: alright then, good for you`
`06:26.10`	`ckknight`	`wtf`
`06:26.14`	`*** mode/#wowace [+b !@S01060013461aa1d9.vf.shawcable.net] by ckknight`
`06:26.14`	`*** kick/#wowace [Toncho!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight)`
`06:26.20`	`jme`	`hahaha`
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`06:26.37`	`jme`	`i just glanced over to irc and saw that.. epic`
`06:26.37`	`ckknight`	`don't be slinging the word "nigger" around haphazardly`
`06:26.54`	`jme`	`i really hate that`
`06:27.01`	`Jaxon`	`If he is trying to quit, being in here isn't the best for him anyways.`
`06:27.07`	`ckknight`	`probably`
`06:27.14`	`ckknight`	`he's just a douche`
`06:27.21`	`vhaarr`	`if he wants any kind of sympathy, this isn't the place either`
`06:27.33`	`vhaarr`	`especially when I'm awake`
`06:28.59`	`Starinnia`	`so, to make a frame movable, you register for drag then SetScript for OnDragStart and OnDragStop?`
`06:29.43`	`ckknight`	`well, you could setscript anywhere`
`06:29.55`	`ckknight`	`you also need to do :SetMovable(true)`
`06:30.23`	`Starinnia`	`hmmm... did all that.. won't let me move it`
`06:30.56`	`Starinnia`	`http://ace.pastey.net/71682`
`06:31.01`	`Starinnia`	`if you want to look`
`06:31.40`	`Gngsk`	`damn ckknight`
`06:31.44`	`Gngsk`	`you had a golden bash opportunity`
`06:31.55`	`ckknight`	`?`
`06:31.59`	`ckknight`	`I've already been on bash`
`06:31.59`	`Gngsk`	`a witty kick message there could've made it ten times more amusing`
`06:32.32`	`ckknight`	`meh, I right-click -> kickban`
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`06:34.03`	`vhaarr`	`Starinnia: should work, try doing :SetMovable(true) before :RegisterForDrag`
`06:34.43`	`vhaarr`	`Starinnia: hm, perhaps you need a :EnableMouse as well`
`06:34.55`	`Gngsk`	`ya`
`06:35.51`	`Starinnia`	`thanks guys, it moves now`
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`06:40.34`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45503 10Joker/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0.lua: LibJokerModuleCore-1.0 - add unit tests`
`06:41.21`	`ckknight`	`alright, all libraries now are documented and have unit tests`
`06:41.25`	`ckknight`	`whew`
`06:42.58`	`Fisker-`	`engage`
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`06:47.38`	`ramoz`	`where does all my Cartographer_Notes notes get stored?`
`06:47.55`	`ckknight`	`in your saved variables`
`06:48.25`	`ramoz`	`ah`
`06:48.31`	`ramoz`	`ty`
`06:48.51`	`Diao`	`hm`
`06:50.45`	`Ixan`	`ckknight: how many packs of beer would it take for you to undertake making a kick-ass ace2 auctioneer replacement?`
`06:51.01`	`ckknight`	`how much does a 6-pack nowadays go for?`
`06:51.18`	`Kemayo`	`I suspect the difficulty would be persuading him to do it in Ace2 instead of as a Joker pilot project.`
`06:51.48`	`Ixan`	`depends on where you live ckknight. $12 in norway`
`06:51.52`	`ckknight`	`okay, let's say at $10/6-pack`
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`06:51.58`	`ckknight`	`that's what you can get Newcastle at`
`06:52.00`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`06:52.05`	`ckknight`	`I need 100 6-packs of beer.`
`06:52.09`	`jme`	`lol`
`06:52.15`	`ckknight`	`except that I don't drink`
`06:52.20`	`ckknight`	`so could you send a check instead?`
`06:52.21`	`Ixan`	`that's a catch 22 I rekcon`
`06:52.26`	`Kemayo`	`100 6-packs of non-alcoholic beer?`
`06:52.33`	`Jaxon`	`Just to stir up shit, whats wrong with Auctioneer?`
`06:52.36`	`ckknight`	`beer flavored water? no thank you`
`06:52.41`	`Ixan`	`with all that beer you couldn't code. So it's good you're a non-drinker`
`06:52.43`	`ckknight`	`Jaxon: no idea, it works fine`
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`06:52.53`	`Kemayo`	`Jaxon: Honestly, the only thing "wrong" with it is that it's a massive memory hog.`
`06:52.56`	`Ixan`	`auctioneer is good`
`06:53.07`	`Jaxon`	`Kemayo: I think that is understandable when you are dealing with that much data.`
`06:53.10`	`Ixan`	`just want it updated through wau and with fancy gfx`
`06:53.11`	`ckknight`	`Kemayo: which is supposedly fixed in their new version which is in the works`
`06:53.27`	`Kemayo`	`Oh, cool, I hadn't heard. I look forward to that, then`
`06:53.38`	`Kemayo`	`Jaxon: I'm not really complaining -- thus the quotes. :)`
`06:53.42`	`Diao`	`what's going on with wowace.com o_o`
`06:53.57`	`Kemayo`	`Diao: I believe we're switching to new servers. Or did earlier.`
`06:54.10`	`Kemayo`	`Something like that.`
`06:55.20`	`Diao`	`oh`
`06:55.31`	`Diao`	`strange`
`06:55.34`	`Diao`	`cause i keep seeing commits here`
`06:55.35`	`ramoz`	`i didnt get a mail when i registerd =(`
`06:55.36`	`Diao`	`and i run WAU`
`06:55.42`	`Diao`	`but it keeps saying 0 updates`
`06:55.52`	`Diao`	`since yesterday afternoon >.>`
`06:57.26`	`Ixan`	`could set up a amazon wishlist ckknight. Make the whole bribe process easier`
`06:57.35`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`06:57.39`	`ckknight`	`I don't want things`
`06:58.02`	`ckknight`	`currently what I want is a job and a place to live outside this state`
`06:58.04`	`Ixan`	`yeah, guess you're right. hard to get prostitutes with cd's and toasters :=`
`06:59.53`	`ckknight`	`note: good job, where I don't have to smell fumes or lift heavy things`
`07:01.31`	`Ixan`	`where you work at?`
`07:01.48`	`ckknight`	`I work for my dad, doing basic construction-related stuff`
`07:02.13`	`xt`	`ckknight: you a windows coder as well ?`
`07:02.24`	`xt`	`maybe we a a job openning`
`07:02.26`	`xt`	`lol`
`07:02.28`	`ckknight`	`I haven't done much of anything with Win32/MFC`
`07:02.28`	`xt`	`in norway!`
`07:02.38`	`ckknight`	`sorry, I'd prefer to stay in the states`
`07:02.44`	`xt`	`wth!`
`07:02.47`	`Ixan`	`hirr`
`07:02.48`	`xt`	`:)`
`07:02.56`	`ckknight`	`what?`
`07:03.01`	`Ixan`	`construction > win32/mfc`
`07:03.07`	`xt`	`truth`
`07:03.19`	`ramoz`	`xt: where do you work? :O`
`07:03.26`	`Ixan`	`bordello`
`07:03.38`	`xt`	`ramoz: small IT service company in norway`
`07:04.08`	`ramoz`	`gamer.no affil?`
`07:04.33`	`xt`	`nope. But I have a friend that does that :D`
`07:04.43`	`ramoz`	`aha`
`07:05.16`	`sylvanaar`	`ckknight you'll find something - first one is always a bitch`
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`07:05.46`	`ckknight`	`bah`
`07:05.50`	`ckknight`	`wish it weren't such a bitch`
`07:06.08`	`Ixan`	`which state you live in ?`
`07:06.17`	`xt`	`In norway they basically throw jobs after you`
`07:06.28`	`xt`	`if you have skills, especially`
`07:06.29`	`ckknight`	`Ixan: Hawaii, but I want out`
`07:06.33`	`Dynom`	`xt: yeh and pay rediculous salerys`
`07:06.33`	`ckknight`	`I have skillz`
`07:06.45`	`Bejitt`	`damn, only one direction to go from there`
`07:06.47`	`Ixan`	`ckknight: thought it was alabama or something, since you're so eager to move`
`07:06.51`	`xt`	`Dynom: truth`
`07:07.07`	`Bejitt`	`alabama is actually a decent place to live o.O`
`07:07.13`	`ckknight`	`Ixan: Hawaii's too expensive and too close to my parents`
`07:07.15`	`Bejitt`	`now mississippi .... >_>`
`07:07.23`	`sylvanaar`	`actually ppl from alabama arent anxious to move usually`
`07:07.30`	`Bejitt`	`yea`
`07:07.43`	`Ixan`	`which the other states are quite thankfull for?`
`07:07.56`	`xt`	`You're such a hater Ixan!`
`07:08.00`	`Ixan`	`hirr`
`07:08.14`	`ckknight`	`thankful?`
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`07:08.17`	`ckknight`	`how do you mean?`
`07:08.22`	`Ixan`	`heard a couple of tales of alabama when my brother was over there`
`07:08.38`	`sylvanaar`	`people not from the south, tend not to like it`
`07:08.41`	`Ixan`	`perhaps they were wildly exagurated`
`07:09.15`	`Bejitt`	`probably, ixan`
`07:09.34`	`Bejitt`	`or... just the extremeties`
`07:09.49`	`sylvanaar`	`i lived in raleigh, nc for 2 years - im thinking of moving back - houston has gotten old`
`07:10.12`	`Kemayo`	`ckknight: I'd wish you luck with that Spacetime job... but I'm applying for it, too, so I hope you don't get it. ;)`
`07:10.27`	`ckknight`	`bah`
`07:10.29`	`ckknight`	`lamer`
`07:11.52`	`sylvanaar`	`the server seems to be different today`
`07:12.27`	`sylvanaar`	`it doesnt have the correct encryption key when i try to sftp in`
`07:12.32`	`Dynom`	`god I love warm sunny days`
`07:13.30`	`ckknight`	`sylvanaar: different server :-P`
`07:13.42`	`sylvanaar`	`ckknight is that right?`
`07:13.49`	`ckknight`	`I believe so`
`07:13.54`	`sylvanaar`	`ah`
`07:14.28`	`xt`	`doesnt sound good`
`07:15.15`	`sylvanaar`	`it doesnt let me authenticate, bah`
`07:16.26`	`evl`	`ckknight: will there be a wiki page up for joker at some point maybe describing why it's better than ace2, changes etc?`
`07:16.37`	`Diao`	`hmm`
`07:16.51`	`Diao`	`any other addons besides tradeskillinfo that can color the AH based on what recipes you know and don't know?`
`07:17.02`	`ckknight`	`evl: currently there's http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Joker`
`07:17.12`	`ckknight`	`just API, though`
`07:17.50`	`evl`	`ckknight: So timer is ScheduleRepeating* ?`
`07:17.59`	`ckknight`	`and schedule`
`07:18.05`	`evl`	`nice`
`07:18.07`	`Jaxon`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:18.24`	`ckknight`	`yea, the timer stuff is its own library, and the API is reasonably sane`
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`07:18.33`	`ckknight`	`and event stuff is namespaced now`
`07:18.43`	`evl`	`Why is it namespaced exactly?`
`07:19.14`	`CIA-22`	`03roartindon * r45504 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua:`
`07:19.14`	`CIA-22`	`Assessment`
`07:19.14`	`CIA-22`	`- Crushing Blows and Glancing Blows should show up separately in hit information now`
`07:19.40`	`ckknight`	`because by having it namespaced, it alleviates a lot of issues such as distinction between Blizzard event and custom messages as well as versioning issues`
`07:20.11`	`Fisker-`	`wtf`
`07:20.28`	`Fisker-`	`lol`
`07:20.30`	`ckknight`	`what?`
`07:20.38`	`Fisker-`	`for some reason my mouse can only right click now :(`
`07:20.46`	`ckknight`	`laptop?`
`07:20.49`	`Fisker-`	`nope`
`07:20.56`	`ckknight`	`hrm, dunno then`
`07:20.59`	`ckknight`	`unplug it and plug it back in`
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`07:25.30`	`Fisker-`	`gotta try a reboot then :P`
`07:27.36`	`yacoob`	`zomg!`
`07:27.38`	`yacoob`	`Loz is back!`
`07:27.41`	`yacoob`	`QUICK, HIDE!`
`07:28.07`	`ramoz`	`wut - where?!`
`07:28.09`	`ramoz`	`runs`
`07:28.32`	`evl`	`WTB Wiki page for Assessment with screenies!`
`07:28.33`	`xlvii`	`http://www.gamesites200.com/lineage2/in.php?id=6459 all vote, plox.`
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`07:31.03`	`yacoob`	`tbh, I'm unable (and way too lazy) to find my way to the proper post on discordmods.com, but: http://omgphatloots.org/?p=49`
`07:31.07`	`Fisker-`	`oh well`
`07:31.35`	`Fisker-`	`this sucks :(`
`07:31.51`	`Fisker-`	`i'm suing Blizzard`
`07:32.01`	`Fisker-`	`happened when i was clicking on a topic`
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`07:32.37`	`Fisker-`	`not like i need a mouse anyways`
`07:33.35`	`Cheads`	`World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King ... hmm`
`07:34.12`	`evl`	`I dunno, it's always rumors`
`07:34.34`	`evl`	`And who cares about a name, NORTHREND1 and NORTHREND2 are already folder names inside the existing patch :P`
`07:34.36`	`evl`	`With textures, and models`
`07:34.37`	`evl`	`with fur`
`07:34.39`	`evl`	`nuff said`
`07:35.00`	`Fisker-`	`EXPANSION02`
`07:35.03`	`Fisker-`	`and it was removed`
`07:35.11`	`Fisker-`	`so`
`07:35.21`	`Fisker-`	`anyone got a page with a nice mouse?`
`07:35.25`	`Fisker-`	`For some reason i need a new one`
`07:35.34`	`Fisker-`	`no cordless btw`
`07:35.46`	`evl`	`I use Microsoft Intellimouse Optical`
`07:35.54`	`evl`	`I have 6 of them :P`
`07:35.56`	`evl`	`cheap and durable`
`07:36.12`	`Fisker-`	`I couldn't run an ad that said "No microsoft", but... no microsoft :P`
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`07:37.26`	`Hed`	`Hi, should i set Externals to http://svn.wowace.com/wowace or http://dev.wowace.com/wowace?`
`07:37.44`	`ckknight`	`svn`
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`07:39.03`	`mitch0`	`diao: if you click "usable items only", you won't see recipes that you already know`
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`07:39.29`	`mitch0`	`fisker: logitech mx510`
`07:40.48`	`CIA-22`	`03starinnia * r45505 10SimpleMD/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-koKR.lua):`
`07:40.48`	`CIA-22`	`SimpleMD:`
`07:40.48`	`CIA-22`	`- touched up deDE localization`
`07:40.48`	`CIA-22`	`- added koKr localization`
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`07:41.28`	`Fisker-`	`HAHAHAH`
`07:41.48`	`CIA-22`	`03starinnia * r45506 10SimpleMD/SimpleMD.toc:`
`07:41.48`	`CIA-22`	`SimpleMD:`
`07:41.48`	`CIA-22`	`- Adding Locale files to the TOC file would be useful`
`07:41.50`	`Fisker-`	`it worked by blowing into it`
`07:42.27`	`Starinnia`	`i should never commit past midnight.. always forget things`
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`07:45.56`	`Hed`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace doesn't exist...`
`07:46.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`add another / at teh end`
`07:46.36`	`Jaxon`	`Otherwise it is looking for a file named wowace`
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`07:47.57`	`Hed`	`libs/AceLibrary http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunc/Ace2/AceLibrary/`
`07:47.57`	`Hed`	`libs/AceOO-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunc/Ace2/AceOO-2.0/`
`07:47.57`	`Hed`	`libs/AceAddon-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunc/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/`
`07:47.57`	`Hed`	`libs/AceConsole-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunc/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/`
`07:47.57`	`Hed`	`libs/AceEvent-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunc/Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/`
`07:47.58`	`Hed`	`libs/PaintChips-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunc/PaintChipsLib/PaintChips-2.0/`
`07:47.59`	`Hed`	`libs/CandyBar-2.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunc/CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/`
`07:48.05`	`Hed`	`doesn't work :-(`
`07:48.09`	`mitch0`	`arrowmaster: yo. would you care continuing yesterday's topic? you said that my usage of profiles is weird. could you elaborate on that?`
`07:48.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`its trunk`
`07:48.17`	`Hed`	`oO`
`07:48.22`	`Hed`	`$%^@!!!!`
`07:48.34`	`Cheads`	`hehe`
`07:49.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`mitch0: sec`
`07:49.04`	`mitch0`	`hehe, we mispelled trunk in our project, too, but we realized it only after 1-2 years, so it kinda stuck now`
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`07:49.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`mitch0: yeah`
`07:50.45`	`CIA-22`	`03hedin * r45507 10WF3sec/: WF3sec: Externals update`
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`07:51.51`	`Hed`	`how often do zip-s recreated at files.wowace.com and can i force?`
`07:52.33`	`Fisker-`	`each 20 minutes and no`
`07:52.45`	`Fisker-`	`8 minute from now`
`07:52.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`mitch0: you have the DefaultDB table and instead of just doing self:RegisterDefaults() then using self.db, your initalizing with the DefaultDB then registeringdefaults and calling a function to update everything to whats in self.db`
`07:52.56`	`Fisker-`	`minutes*`
`07:58.52`	`mitch0`	`arrowmaster: well, DefaultDB remained from the times when I didn't yet use AceDB. I could use the current db values in :createFrame() now if I wanted to (would have to move the createFrame() call down a bit, but I guess it wouldn't cause any problems), but I don't think it's such a big issues`
`07:59.17`	`mitch0`	`s/s$//`
`07:59.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`well if you did that you could drop the entire OnProfileEnable function`
`07:59.32`	`mitch0`	`purl: doh`
`07:59.33`	`purl`	`doh is, like, what homer simpson says when sid crashes`
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`08:00.05`	`mitch0`	`erm, no`
`08:00.16`	`mitch0`	`well, I could if I did away with local db, too`
`08:00.32`	`mitch0`	`but I'd like to keep that as it's nicer to write than self.db.profle :)`
`08:00.51`	`mitch0`	`also, I gotta call applySettings there`
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`08:01.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`nah the local db should be fine`
`08:02.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`just move line 4 and 5 in oninit to the top of oninit`
`08:02.33`	`CIA-22`	`03cronan * r45508 10BigBrother/BuffWindow.lua:`
`08:02.33`	`CIA-22`	`BigBrother:`
`08:02.33`	`CIA-22`	`- Fix typo`
`08:02.43`	`mitch0`	`oh, I remember now why I use DefaultDB in createFrame instead of the current one`
`08:03.04`	`mitch0`	`in the current DB the font might be not valid. the DefaultDB font should always be valid`
`08:03.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`ah true`
`08:03.38`	`mitch0`	`so, basically, createFrame() ensures a proper default state even in case the db is kinda corrupted`
`08:03.42`	`mitch0`	`for whatever reason`
`08:04.40`	`mitch0`	`arrow: btw, I found another mod on wowi doing basically the same as RangeCheck/RangeDisplay. Distance2. compare the code if you want some fun`
`08:05.35`	`mitch0`	`I restrained myself from flaming the author on wowi though, as he's really put a lot of effort in it. probably a lot more than I did.`
`08:11.19`	`mitch0`	`hm. this one sounds nice (though I haven't done the ogri'la dailies yet): http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7167-1.0.7.html`
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`08:19.59`	`yoshimo`	`can someone help me with bigwigs? the aq mods vanished after the update and loatheb_tactical produces error on load`
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`08:23.17`	`ramoz`	`why do you want AQ and Naxx mods?`
`08:23.24`	`ramoz`	`AQ is broken btw - the twins are bugged =(`
`08:23.39`	`Fisker-`	`in what way?`
`08:24.27`	`ramoz`	`afaik the aggro reset when they teleport`
`08:24.45`	`ramoz`	`so they run over eachother and heal for about a million each`
`08:25.16`	`Fisker-`	`just kill them before the first teleport!`
`08:25.22`	`ramoz`	`yeah`
`08:25.23`	`ramoz`	`gg`
`08:25.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`you can install BigWigs_AQ and BigWigs_Naxx from WAU`
`08:25.43`	`ramoz`	`how much HP do they have?`
`08:25.46`	`ramoz`	`2mill?`
`08:25.47`	`Fisker-`	`might be able to do it if your tank has decent avoidance?`
`08:25.55`	`Fisker-`	`1,5 i think`
`08:25.59`	`ramoz`	`well`
`08:26.05`	`ramoz`	`30s between each teleport?`
`08:26.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`with 40 people in kara gear i think thats possible`
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`08:26.34`	`yoshimo`	`Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ...\BigWigs_LoathebTactical\BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua line 354: attempt to index global 'BigWigsLoathebTactical' (a nil value)Debug: [C]: ? ...\BigWigs_LoathebTactical\BigWigs_LoathebTactical.lua:354: in main chunk [C]: LoadAddOn() BigWigs\LoadOnDemand.lua:31: func() ...ddOns\ag_UnitFrames\libs\Dewdrop-2.0\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:710: ...ddOns\ag_UnitFrames\libs\Dewdrop-2.0\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:`
`08:26.36`	`Bejitt`	`40 lvl 70s, all dps classes :D`
`08:26.59`	`Fisker-`	`Anyone actually made a c'thun movie with 40 70's? :P`
`08:27.04`	`Fisker-`	`that would be so funny :P`
`08:27.16`	`yoshimo`	`and load all in tk-menu shows no options`
`08:28.12`	`yoshimo`	`so littlewigs seems affected too...`
`08:28.28`	`Fisker-`	`btw ramoz is the teleport trigger still bugged_`
`08:28.28`	`Fisker-`	`?`
`08:28.44`	`Fisker-`	`after 2.0 the teleport couldn't be detected by bigwigs`
`08:29.13`	`ramoz`	`i dont know`
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`08:30.22`	`ramoz`	`we decided to have a fun raid a while ago (around easter) so it was either AQ or Naxx, but we didnt go aq since some said the teleport at the twins was bugged`
`08:32.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`i have bad memorys of the last time i was in aq`
`08:32.05`	`Fisker-`	`noo`
`08:32.07`	`Fisker-`	`AQ = WIN`
`08:32.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`fucking huhu corpse run without a mount`
`08:32.17`	`Fisker-`	`but the emperor bugs were retarded :(`
`08:32.21`	`Fisker-`	`haha Arrowmaster`
`08:32.29`	`Fisker-`	`i did that once`
`08:32.31`	`Fisker-`	`NEVER AGAIN`
`08:32.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`ive done it many times`
`08:32.44`	`xt`	`wipe ? ok afk 30 minutes`
`08:33.06`	`Fisker-`	`Frankiss was also annoying`
`08:33.16`	`ramoz`	`the tunnel before frankriss`
`08:33.17`	`ramoz`	`omg`
`08:33.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`sometimes a hunter would be nice and come find me and ask for group swap`
`08:33.21`	`Fisker-`	`3 worm spawns within seconds of each other`
`08:33.26`	`Fisker-`	`and that happened 3 times before we wiped`
`08:33.33`	`ramoz`	`ALWAYS had to summon the mages back`
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`08:35.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`i wonder if a feral druid could solo the eradicators nows`
`08:35.20`	`Cheads`	`I loved the tunnel before frankriss.. huhu could be annoying though =)`
`08:35.26`	`abbat_w`	`=)`
`08:35.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`we used to 3 man them with a warrior priest and my warlock`
`08:35.31`	`abbat_w`	`I'm love to ;)`
`08:35.38`	`abbat_w`	`it's mage heaven ;)`
`08:35.47`	`Cheads`	`and warlock heaven hehe`
`08:35.50`	`abbat_w`	`AoE and first places in damage meter ;)`
`08:36.03`	`Cheads`	`would be fun to test out SoC there`
`08:36.09`	`abbat_w`	`SoC?`
`08:36.17`	`Cheads`	`Seed of Corruption`
`08:36.23`	`abbat_w`	`Ah, damn yes ;)`
`08:36.29`	`abbat_w`	`We try aq befoe 2.0`
`08:36.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`'omg SoC went through the walls and aggroed cthun!'`
`08:36.37`	`abbat_w`	`Ahaha ;)`
`08:36.39`	`Cheads`	`hehe yeah.. might be so =)`
`08:37.47`	`ramoz`	`omg`
`08:37.58`	`ramoz`	`you just reminded me of the trash in front of Cthun`
`08:38.08`	`Fisker-`	`there is NONE`
`08:38.08`	`Cheads`	`never managed to kill twins though =(`
`08:38.09`	`abbat_w`	`We never try C'Thun`
`08:38.20`	`abbat_w`	`Only Twins`
`08:38.27`	`Fisker-`	`one thing i hate before c'thun are those mindflayer packs`
`08:38.30`	`Fisker-`	`they're not hard`
`08:38.34`	`Fisker-`	`but packs of 5-6 mobs`
`08:38.35`	`ramoz`	`yeah`
`08:38.35`	`Fisker-`	`seriously`
`08:38.41`	`Fisker-`	`they're so boring`
`08:38.47`	`Cheads`	`everyone stopped playing after new year.. so we didn't make it =(`
`08:38.48`	`ramoz`	`we wiped for hours on them`
`08:38.50`	`Fisker-`	`I like the defenders up there though`
`08:39.00`	`abbat_w`	`Ahaha, yes ;) Mindflayer packs after c'thun is pain ;)`
`08:39.09`	`abbat_w`	`But it was fun`
`08:39.10`	`yoshimo`	`to log bossfights there are bw_debugger and transcriptor, is one of them significantly better or are they equal?`
`08:39.12`	`Fisker-`	`never considered them hard`
`08:39.18`	`Fisker-`	`Our first pack had 4 mindflayers`
`08:39.21`	`Fisker-`	`and we took it first try`
`08:39.34`	`Fisker-`	`all packs are pretty easy, just a pain to pull + very boring`
`08:40.04`	`ramoz`	`alot of ppl die`
`08:40.12`	`ramoz`	`atleast they added the teleporter`
`08:40.15`	`ramoz`	`to twins room`
`08:40.28`	`abbat_w`	`Fisker, you play by alliance?`
`08:40.38`	`Fisker-`	`no horde`
`08:41.24`	`ramoz`	`For the Horde!`
`08:41.29`	`Fisker-`	`indeed`
`08:41.36`	`ramoz`	`o/`
`08:41.49`	`Hed`	`<- Draenei :-)`
`08:42.01`	`ramoz`	`=(`
`08:42.10`	`ramoz`	`Wtb alliance totems`
`08:42.18`	`ramoz`	`they look so much cooler then horde`
`08:42.38`	`Fisker-`	`yarr`
`08:43.02`	`Fisker-`	`the least they could've done was to give us those troll style totems`
`08:45.48`	`ramoz`	`troll...`
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`08:58.30`	`Jaxon`	`Almost done. Unitframes, bag mod, raiding addons are the only thing left.`
`08:58.32`	`Jaxon`	`http://jaxon.ca/noindex/almostdone.jpeg`
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`09:00.30`	`ramoz`	`what barmod is that Jaxon ?`
`09:00.31`	`Jaxon`	`Bartender3`
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`09:01.59`	`fireglow`	`and minimap mod?`
`09:02.05`	`Jaxon`	`simpleMinimap`
`09:02.12`	`fireglow`	`mhm ok`
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`09:02.33`	`Speeddymon`	`ok im stumped, and i've read the docs, and still don't get it, and its probably due to lack of sleep`
`09:03.05`	`Speeddymon`	`but how the hell do I get waterfall to parse a table value and put it into a dropdown?`
`09:03.52`	`abbat_w`	`ergh... pve ui ;)`
`09:03.53`	`Speeddymon`	`i've got all of the fields setup.. the type, and the get and set, etc, but every time I load it in game I just get a blank editbox`
`09:04.18`	`Nargiddley`	`validate = {"Option1", "Option2"}`
`09:04.19`	`Nargiddley`	`etc`
`09:04.23`	`Jaxon`	`abbat_w: it isn't finished, but it isn't for any specific PvE/PvP purpose.`
`09:04.23`	`Speeddymon`	`right..`
`09:04.24`	`Nargiddley`	`for a dropdown`
`09:04.27`	`Speeddymon`	`but my problem is this`
`09:05.22`	`Speeddymon`	`i have groups.groupname.setting = value`
`09:05.32`	`Speeddymon`	`and i am trying to get the groupname into a dropdown`
`09:06.24`	`Nargiddley`	`you'll still need the validate table, you can build it dynamically`
`09:06.31`	`CIA-22`	`03roartindon * r45509 10Assessment/Modules/ (Damage.lua Deaths.lua):`
`09:06.31`	`CIA-22`	`Assessment`
`09:06.31`	`CIA-22`	`- Death event log now has predict health option, defaulted to on. Now avoids a number of lookups for damage reporting.`
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`09:17.31`	`Iceroth`	`sirow! gieb avion!`
`09:18.16`	`Sirow`	`Aiceroth: Need to rewrite my guilds website first >_<`
`09:18.22`	`Iceroth`	`:\|`
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`09:19.25`	`Sirow`	`Somebody knows the colorcode for shamans? (Like "#3366FF")`
`09:20.41`	`Iceroth`	`less websites, more avion plx`
`09:21.28`	`Iceroth`	`it's morally wrong to put a damn good looking teaser and then not give the rest`
`09:21.35`	`Sirow`	`:D`
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`09:21.53`	`Sirow`	`finished with this crap soon (if nothings crashes Oo)`
`09:22.20`	`Iceroth`	`fingers crossed you don't use java ;)`
`09:24.31`	`Sole`	`I need a new hobby`
`09:24.34`	`Sirow`	`only some java-script (and I'm really WORSE at it >_<)`
`09:24.38`	`Sole`	`< bored`
`09:24.59`	`Sirow`	`when I'm bored, I read www.bashed.org :P`
`09:25.25`	`Iceroth`	`ads keep you entertained?)`
`09:25.41`	`Sirow`	`http://www.bash.org/`
`09:25.46`	`Sirow`	`^^`
`09:26.00`	`Sirow`	`freaky long time memory :P`
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`09:27.23`	`Sole`	`lol@bash`
`09:28.27`	`yacoob`	`what's wrong with bash?`
`09:28.50`	`ckknight`	`lol, latest bash is great`
`09:30.36`	`Iceroth`	`rolf :D`
`09:30.48`	`Sirow`	`erm, is there a way to download a complete changelog of an addon?`
`09:31.49`	`Speeddymon`	`ok i have table xxx.db.char.groups with indexes of items and main, and values for the groups position on screen.. if I want to dynamically build a validate table for waterfall that will show me a dropdown with all of the group names under xxx.db.char.groups.. how do i do it?`
`09:32.24`	`Speeddymon`	`i keep coming up with nil errors and blank editboxes, etc.....`
`09:32.47`	`Nargiddley`	`for k in pairs(xxx.db.char.groups) do tinsert(validate table here, k) end`
`09:33.15`	`Speeddymon`	`tinsert.. sigh i knew i was too tired`
`09:33.24`	`Speeddymon`	`1 sec`
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`09:35.07`	`mitch0`	`sirow: svn log http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AddOnName ?`
`09:35.22`	`Speeddymon`	`dangit and now i cant figure out what should be in validate table here`
`09:35.30`	`Nargiddley`	`something like`
`09:35.47`	`Nargiddley`	`self.opts.args.Level1.args.Level2.OptionName.validate`
`09:36.10`	`Nargiddley`	`wait, self.opts.args.Level1.args.Level2.args.OptionName.validate`
`09:36.33`	`Speeddymon`	`oh christ, so i gotta store the validate table in the db as well.... thats what my friggin problem has been`
`09:36.54`	`Nargiddley`	`in the db ?`
`09:37.10`	`Speeddymon`	`in the savedvariables file..`
`09:37.14`	`Nargiddley`	`no`
`09:37.27`	`Speeddymon`	`ok then im confused`
`09:37.46`	`Nargiddley`	`you're using it from an AceOptions table ?`
`09:37.49`	`Speeddymon`	`yes`
`09:37.55`	`Sirow`	`mitch0: Thx, stupid me ^^`
`09:38.01`	`Speeddymon`	`conveniently named options`
`09:38.05`	`Nargiddley`	`then thats the options tree, not db`
`09:38.25`	`Speeddymon`	`OH`
`09:38.38`	`Speeddymon`	`hello.. options.groups.blah blah blah`
`09:39.37`	`Speeddymon`	`./rl brb`
`09:39.52`	`CIA-22`	`03roartindon * r45510 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua:`
`09:39.52`	`CIA-22`	`Assessment`
`09:39.52`	`CIA-22`	`- Added more to the predict health logic`
`09:39.52`	`CIA-22`	`- Updated death sort key`
`09:40.30`	`Speeddymon`	`Error occured in: GlobalCount: 1Message: ...AddOns\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0\Waterfall-1.0.lua line 3008: Usage: <unnamed>:SetText("text")`
`09:40.45`	`Speeddymon`	`i did:`
`09:40.51`	`Speeddymon`	`validate = function()`
`09:40.51`	`Speeddymon`	`for k in pairs(CooldownTimers.db.char.groups) do`
`09:40.51`	`Speeddymon`	`tinsert(options.args.group.args.name.validate, k)`
`09:40.51`	`Speeddymon`	`end`
`09:40.51`	`Speeddymon`	`end,`
`09:41.00`	`Nargiddley`	`ace.pastey.net`
`09:41.04`	`Speeddymon`	`ooh`
`09:41.29`	`Nargiddley`	`validate is a table, not a function`
`09:41.29`	`pb_ee1`	`I'm going to remove the ad on the LZRoster`
`09:41.44`	`Speeddymon`	`lol`
`09:41.46`	`Speeddymon`	`crap`
`09:42.02`	`Nargiddley`	`that function you'd want to run when what would be in the table change`
`09:42.13`	`Iceroth`	`Sirow, maybe http://www.bash.org/?784313 is something for you then?)`
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`09:42.34`	`Nargiddley`	`so validate = {} in the options table, run that function you have there in OnEnable`
`09:42.44`	`Nargiddley`	`should get it going to start`
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`09:42.59`	`Sirow`	`Iceroth: lol XD`
`09:43.34`	`Speeddymon`	`hmm.. too bad hidden executes dont get 'executed' automatically`
`09:43.53`	`Speeddymon`	`maybe i can work around that tho.. i'd prefer to not have to put it in onenable, but ill figure it out from here. thanks`
`09:44.25`	`Nargiddley`	`well, somewhere after the db is available do it, then whenever the contents of char.groups changes clear the table and run it again`
`09:46.16`	`mitch0`	`.;`
`09:46.18`	`Sirow`	`hey cool, Parser wiki got updated dance`
`09:46.20`	`mitch0`	`.`
`09:46.45`	`Silviu-`	`~seen Kaelten`
`09:46.46`	`purl`	`kaelten <n=kaelten@69.109.103.158> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 39m 31s ago, saying: 'ok, it works'.`
`09:46.51`	`CIA-22`	`03cryect * r45511 10Recount/ (5 files):`
`09:46.51`	`CIA-22`	`Recount - Some preliminary changes for being able to save individual fights`
`09:46.51`	`CIA-22`	`- Adds checked next to current window mode when right clicking the title`
`09:47.08`	`Speeddymon`	`i ust put it in the get for the option in waterfall.. right above what the get returns.. so now that works perfectly`
`09:47.12`	`Speeddymon`	`thanks again`
`09:47.41`	`Speeddymon`	`grr`
`09:48.01`	`Nargiddley`	`if you dont clear the table out it'll keep growing tho`
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`09:48.05`	`Speeddymon`	`one glitch`
`09:48.06`	`Speeddymon`	`ya`
`09:48.09`	`Speeddymon`	`im doing that now lol`
`09:49.42`	`Anaro`	`Anyone sucessfully used BigBrother after AceLocale-2.2 was added to it? In my EU english client all the translated texts don't show up. No errors reported, and with my limited LUA/Ace2 knowledge I can't see anything wrong in the lua code.`
`09:49.45`	`Nargiddley`	`also its not guaranteed that the get will run before the validate is read, i dont know how AceConsole and Dewdrop do it`
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`09:53.58`	`Speeddymon`	`yea`
`09:55.21`	`Speeddymon`	`the problem i have with putting it in onenable is that the user would have to close the window and reopen it for the dropdown to update.. im lookin for a workaround to that now though, since it looks like if i clear the table before running the for loop, it stays cleared..`
`09:55.47`	`Nargiddley`	`you do control what goes in the db right ?`
`09:55.59`	`Speeddymon`	`yes`
`09:56.01`	`Nargiddley`	`rebuild when you add or remove a group`
`09:56.16`	`Speeddymon`	`good point`
`09:56.42`	`Sirow`	`ok, now comes stupid a question, lets say I have a (GUI) inputbox and write something like { val1 = 1, val2 = 2 } in it, is there an easy/evil/nice way to build a table from this? Like`
`09:56.42`	`Sirow`	`someInsecureTable = { val1 = 1, val2 = 2 } ?`
`09:56.45`	`vhaarr`	`Anaro: should be fixed now`
`09:56.48`	`ramoz`	`cab simpleminimap make it square now?`
`09:57.01`	`ramoz`	`can*`
`09:57.35`	`vhaarr`	`Sirow: loadstring`
`09:58.02`	`Anaro`	`vhaarr: thanks, I'll grab an update from SVN and test it out`
`09:58.13`	`Speeddymon`	`ramoz: yes`
`09:58.23`	`Speeddymon`	`i use smm and have a square minimap from it`
`09:58.53`	`ramoz`	`oOO`
`09:58.57`	`ramoz`	`bye bye squeenix`
`09:59.13`	`abbat_w`	`pfff...`
`09:59.25`	`Iceroth`	`smm could move the pvp cap indicator as well?`
`09:59.26`	`abbat_w`	`i use squeenix. and never have problems with it`
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`09:59.50`	`Sirow`	`afaik, smm could move everything on minimap`
`10:00.23`	`Iceroth`	`gotta try that then, the stupid indicator and my EBBs clash sometimes`
`10:00.25`	`Sirow`	`btw. thx vhaarr`
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`10:04.23`	`abbat_w`	`Iceroth, any news about Avoin? :)`
`10:04.50`	`Iceroth`	`you should ask sirow, he made up some weak excuse about some guild website stuff`
`10:04.59`	`Sirow`	`:D`
`10:05.12`	`vhaarr`	`you mean Avion?`
`10:06.39`	`Hed`	`why my addon - WF3sec is updated only 1 time per day (on files.wowace.com)? i commit realy often :-)`
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`10:11.21`	`Sirow`	`I'd say, commit like the best, update like the rest? :P`
`10:11.32`	`abbat_w`	`vhaarr, yep, sorry`
`10:11.39`	`abbat_w`	`Sirow!`
`10:11.46`	`Sirow`	`yeah?`
`10:12.12`	`abbat_w`	`Any information about eta? :)`
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`10:13.10`	`Stan__`	`Date: 2007-08-01 12:12:54`
`10:13.10`	`Stan__`	`ID: 51`
`10:13.10`	`Stan__`	`Error occured in: Global`
`10:13.10`	`Stan__`	`Count: 1`
`10:13.10`	`Stan__`	`Message: ..\AddOns\Grid\GridStatusHeals.lua line 90:`
`10:13.11`	`Stan__`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:13.13`	`Stan__`	`:(`
`10:13.44`	`Sirow`	`well the website should be finished today :p`
`10:13.44`	`Sirow`	`As for Avion, I don't know, most of the options should be copy paste now but not everything. Still not shure about how to handle Combatlog (Parser-3.0)`
`10:14.17`	`vhaarr`	`what is avion?`
`10:14.32`	`Sirow`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Avion`
`10:14.45`	`Iceroth`	`check the vid, it's /drool`
`10:15.23`	`Sirow`	`(About the pictues, I'm playing aliance, that just my "leave-me-alone-I'm-working-twink" ^^)`
`10:17.30`	`abbat_w`	`heh, btw ;)`
`10:17.41`	`abbat_w`	`I recomend Parrot for my guildmates`
`10:18.02`	`Sirow`	`brb`
`10:18.10`	`abbat_w`	`And every ppl after try 'configuration mode' say 'omg!' :)`
`10:18.17`	`break19`	`i dont recommend squat... they dont listen to me anyway :P`
`10:18.45`	`Iceroth`	`i don't do that anymore either`
`10:19.12`	`Iceroth`	`i did try but some of the ppl are just too narrow minded to grasp the concept of alternative mods outside ctra`
`10:20.00`	`abbat_w`	`Tonight warrior ask me about mod which can show cooldowns in sct ;) I recomend parrot. He try and ask 'why parrot in nice? same as sct'. I told him about configuration mode ;)`
`10:20.42`	`abbat_w`	`after this he configure parrot in about 2..3 hours ;)`
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`10:21.13`	`Silviu-`	`Hmm`
`10:21.22`	`Silviu-`	`Parrot is so nice ? compared to Msbt ?`
`10:21.33`	`abbat_w`	`yes`
`10:21.47`	`Silviu-`	`And how about performance ?`
`10:21.55`	`abbat_w`	`Sliviu, try it. All ok with performance`
`10:21.57`	`Iceroth`	`i haven't found a way to hook to combat log events yet though`
`10:22.05`	`Speeddymon`	`how do you check if a table value exists but is empty? nil isnt working`
`10:22.17`	`Speeddymon`	`and neither ''`
`10:22.18`	`Silviu-`	Because i`m quite happy with Msbt atm
`10:22.47`	`Iceroth`	`i like the icons, that's pretty much the reason i switched`
`10:22.58`	`abbat_w`	`Silviu, you can d/l parrot and see scroll areas -> configuation mode ;)`
`10:23.03`	`Silviu-`	`Miklord said he will add them too`
`10:23.10`	`Silviu-`	`;p`
`10:23.10`	`abbat_w`	`Hmm.. i don't like icons. Turn it off`
`10:23.27`	`Silviu-`	`Well for icons i would switch too`
`10:23.36`	`Silviu-`	`easyer then read the hole name of spell`
`10:23.45`	`Nargiddley`	`Action anim style is what i love :D`
`10:23.46`	`Silviu-`	especially as i`m a wl and 4 dots are ticking ;)
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`10:23.53`	`Nargiddley`	`with a tiny tweak to make it not random`
`10:25.16`	`Sirow`	`Someone with Photoshop or PSP could do me a little favor?`
`10:25.26`	`Iceroth`	`so anyway, am i blind or is parrot capable of showing me stuff like "You interrupt Bubbleboy's Holy Light." from combat log?`
`10:25.54`	`abbat_w`	`Iceroth, sure`
`10:26.04`	`abbat_w`	`By default Parrot show interrupts`
`10:26.28`	`Iceroth`	`well that was just an example, there are few combat log events that i'd like to monitor`
`10:26.33`	`abbat_w`	`Incoming and outgoing`
`10:26.46`	`abbat_w`	`Parrot like msbt have triggers`
`10:27.22`	`Iceroth`	`yeah i found those but i coulnd't figure how to hook to a specific combat log event`
`10:27.29`	`CIA-22`	`03cncfanatics * r45512 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua FlexBar2.toc Layout/Layout.lua):`
`10:27.29`	`CIA-22`	`FlexBar2:`
`10:27.29`	`CIA-22`	`Changed Loadsettings to accept a string or buttontable`
`10:27.29`	`CIA-22`	`Added support for a new unregistered buttonmixin function SetDefaults`
`10:27.29`	`CIA-22`	`Added autoalign support to the setposition slashcommand`
`10:27.30`	`CIA-22`	`Removed some silly memory leaks`
`10:27.46`	`abbat_w`	`Iceroth, check triggers section and try to make own trigger`
`10:27.54`	`abbat_w`	`Look at primary condition`
`10:28.04`	`abbat_w`	`Here is a list of events`
`10:28.30`	`Iceroth`	`yeah but those were stuff like "pet health below X" and stuff`
`10:28.38`	`Iceroth`	`couldn't find the combat log one`
`10:29.05`	`abbat_w`	`Pet health already in triggers`
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`10:37.54`	`CIA-22`	`03celellach * r45513 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua:`
`10:37.54`	`CIA-22`	`AtlasLoot_RepFactions:`
`10:37.54`	`CIA-22`	`- Loot updates`
`10:44.05`	`Speeddymon`	`grr`
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`10:45.32`	`Speeddymon`	`so i have the validate table in now, and basically what im trying to do is be able to select a group from the db in the gui to make option appear on the same page, without actually changing anything in the db.. when i select a group in the dropdown, it doesn't show up in the top row (to indicate it is selected)`
`10:45.53`	`Speeddymon`	`but if i do the normal routine to make it do that, then it overwrites all of the groups and their values..`
`10:46.39`	`Speeddymon`	`is there any way i can make it show what i have selected without actually changing anything in the db?`
`10:47.02`	`Speeddymon`	`actually.. one sec`
`10:47.25`	`Nargiddley`	`what are you trying to achieve ?`
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`10:47.51`	`vhaarr`	`seems to me he just needs to read more example code`
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`10:48.38`	`Speeddymon`	`hey!`
`10:49.27`	`Speeddymon`	`what im trying to achieve is a dropdown that changes absolutely nothing in any tables, but that shows what i selected, and based on that selection, shows various options in the right pane`
`10:49.54`	`vhaarr`	`well isn't that up to YOUR handler functions, then`
`10:49.57`	`vhaarr`	`just read your own code`
`10:50.02`	`Speeddymon`	`heh its not my code`
`10:50.06`	`Speeddymon`	`it's sorren's`
`10:50.12`	`Speeddymon`	`but he isnt here anymore`
`10:50.16`	`vhaarr`	`sorren sucks, just rewrite the whole thing`
`10:50.28`	`Speeddymon`	`thats basically what im doing. piece by piece`
`10:50.39`	`Nargiddley`	`save whats selected, have your gets etc return based on the saved value`
`10:50.47`	`Speeddymon`	`thats what im trying now`
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`10:52.56`	`Speeddymon`	`that works, but now i just need to clear it each time waterfall loads`
`10:53.18`	`Nargiddley`	`so clear it before opening it`
`10:55.34`	`Speeddymon`	`thats what im doing hehe`
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`10:57.05`	`Fisker-`	`haha`
`10:57.21`	`Fisker-`	`what a great idea to put the new darkmoon faire just outside the no-pvp area`
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`11:00.02`	`Speeddymon`	`yea they did that when it was at stormwind too`
`11:00.11`	`Speeddymon`	`horde ganking everywhere.. lol`
`11:01.48`	`Fisker-`	`oh`
`11:01.52`	`Fisker-`	`they put in bruisers when the concert start`
`11:02.21`	`Sirow`	`lol`
`11:02.38`	`Fisker-`	`they should seriously consider adding the guitars to some emote`
`11:02.39`	`Fisker-`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`11:02.55`	`Iceroth`	`so where exactly is it?`
`11:04.16`	`Fisker-`	`just outside shattrath`
`11:04.23`	`Fisker-`	`just right by the banner`
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`11:09.03`	`ramoz`	`banner?`
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`11:11.58`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`11:12.00`	`Fisker-`	`for the city`
`11:12.10`	`Fisker-`	`on the map there's a banner saying "Shattrath City"`
`11:12.23`	`fireglow`	`west,east,wut?`
`11:13.03`	`Fisker-`	`wut!`
`11:14.30`	`ramoz`	`oh`
`11:14.32`	`ramoz`	`on the map`
`11:17.15`	`yacoob`	`http://ulc.net/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2007/post-3919-1184860842.jpg 8)`
`11:18.11`	`Fisker-`	`do not wan`
`11:18.13`	`Fisker-`	`want`
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`11:26.06`	`fireglow`	`heh http://www.worldofraids.com/news/expansion/theworgen.jpg`
`11:26.07`	`fireglow`	`nice`
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`11:37.53`	`CIA-22`	`03mecdemort * r45514 10Scaffold/ (Core.lua textures/example.tga): Scaffold: - Nuked the example frame.`
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`11:46.13`	`CIA-22`	`DrDamage:`
`11:46.13`	`CIA-22`	`- Some melee module adjustments`
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`11:57.07`	`CIA-22`	`DrDamage:`
`11:57.07`	`CIA-22`	`- Fixed whirlwind`
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`12:10.27`	`CIA-22`	`03daviesh * r45517 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.de.lua:`
`12:10.27`	`CIA-22`	`AtlasLoot:`
`12:10.27`	`CIA-22`	`-Fixed German Scholomance bug`
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`12:13.26`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`Hmm is there any way to shuffle all indexes of a table by 1 ? eg if you have tableY[x].foo[bar].sub[foobar] if tableY[x] goes from 1 to 10, if i wanted to delete whole tableY[1] and then move whole tableY[10] to tableY[1] including all subtables and records`
`12:13.33`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`do i need recursive copying or what?`
`12:14.04`	`Josh_Borke`	`tableY[10] = tableY[1]; tableY[1] = nil`
`12:14.05`	`Nargiddley`	`tinsert(table,tremove(table,1))`
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`12:14.29`	`Nargiddley`	`thats if you want 1 to goto the end, and all the others to move down 1`
`12:14.32`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`so assignment will actually copy all subdata ?`
`12:15.02`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`well I want 1 to be deleted then 1 = 2 = 3 = 4 = 5 = 6 = 7 = 8 = 9, so i can add latest data at position 10`
`12:15.08`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`to keep a history of 10 tables`
`12:15.25`	`Nargiddley`	`tremove(table,1)`
`12:15.37`	`Nargiddley`	`will remove the first and shuffle the rest down`
`12:15.50`	`Nargiddley`	`then just put the new one at the end`
`12:16.24`	`Nargiddley`	`first one i said would put the first one in at the end, misinterperated what you wanted`
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`12:16.48`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`ok coool thanks mate =)`
`12:16.50`	`[dRaCo]`	`Nargiddley: got a moment? got 2 ideas for baggins`
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`12:17.05`	`Nargiddley`	`not really, very close to going to bed`
`12:17.21`	`[dRaCo]`	`aight, I'll try to remember them ;)`
`12:17.24`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`I got a suggestion for baggins aswell, please give free reign over how sections are formated (position in frame, how it expands etc)`
`12:17.40`	`Nargiddley`	`Dustwhisper\|, harder than it sounds`
`12:17.44`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`yes it is =)`
`12:18.58`	`Nargiddley`	`Baggins was more setup for having multiple bags with few sections in each, All in one is more a side effect of how configurable it is`
`12:19.41`	`Nargiddley`	`I used advanced bags plus before so was used to that was of getting at bags`
`12:21.21`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`btw unsorted tables, is any new entry added to the table sequential even though the key is not?`
`12:21.45`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`meaning if you do tableY[5] = .... will tableY[2] = ... afterwards be added after tableY[5] and come after when you iterate it?`
`12:22.04`	`Nargiddley`	`iterating with pairs order isn't defined`
`12:22.07`	`cncfanatics`	`Dustwhisper\| iterate order is weird`
`12:22.22`	`Nargiddley`	`iterating with ipairs, you get numeric order, but only up to the first gap`
`12:22.29`	`Nargiddley`	`if you have keys 1,2,3,5,6`
`12:22.34`	`Nargiddley`	`you'll get 1,2,3`
`12:22.45`	`cncfanatics`	`if you want to itterate in a set order you should sort your table`
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`12:38.33`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`some jackoff in a van almost ran into me me at the store >.< craving coffee is fucking dangerous!`
`12:38.33`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`fucker wrecked my arm`
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`12:44.13`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`hlep! how can I add notes to a mobs tooltips?`
`12:46.20`	`Josh_Borke`	`GameTooltip:HookScript("OnSetUnit", function() if UnitExists('mouseover') and UnitName('mouseover') == 'My special mob' then GameTooltip:AddLine("Wicked cool information") GameTooltip:Show() end end)`
`12:46.22`	`Josh_Borke`	`or something like that`
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`12:49.48`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`will #table give number of keys/instances that table has ?`
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`12:56.05`	`CIA-22`	`03pb_ee1 * r45518 10LZProfiler/Locale.lua: LZProfiler: Updating deDE locale (thanks to ArcaneTrickster).`
`12:57.01`	`Josh_Borke`	`Dustwhisper\|: no`
`12:57.16`	`Josh_Borke`	`Dustwhisper\|: look at PiL/lua manual`
`12:57.29`	`Josh_Borke`	`it returns an index such than index+1 is nil`
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`12:58.36`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`So what other way than to iterate through the root of the table do I have to find out how many keys it has ?`
`12:58.54`	`Josh_Borke`	`local n = 0; for k, v in pairs(t) do n = n + 1 end`
`12:59.06`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`yea that's the method i use i just thought it to be a bit ehm lame`
`12:59.45`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Josh_Borke: thank you for the tip...but does that have to be an addon? (I'm green as grass at this)`
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`13:00.11`	`Josh_Borke`	`i would recommend it being in an addon so you can add mobs to the list, but you could try shrinking it to fit in a macro`
`13:00.37`	`Kyahx`	`Dustwhisper\|: you want to know the size of a table??`
`13:00.38`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`cool...I've just gotta learn how ti write an addon then :>`
`13:01.02`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`how to*`
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`13:03.40`	`Necrathex`	`lol, this darkmoon concert is fun ^^`
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`13:04.57`	`ramoz`	`still problems with files.wowace?`
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`13:12.17`	`kenlyric`	`I don't see any.`
`13:12.36`	`kenlyric`	`oh, I guess I do :)`
`13:13.02`	`kenlyric`	`Last updated Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:24:54 +0000`
`13:15.10`	`ramoz`	`on all ze mods`
`13:15.22`	`Silviu-`	`files and trac stopped working`
`13:18.25`	`Josh_Borke`	`thank goodness it's only for beta mods`
`13:18.31`	`CIA-22`	`03oridan * r45519 10ShoutReminder/ (. ShoutReminder.lua embeds.xml):`
`13:18.31`	`CIA-22`	`ShoutReminder:`
`13:18.31`	`CIA-22`	`- Soar -> Sink`
`13:18.31`	`CIA-22`	`- Added "test bars"`
`13:18.31`	`CIA-22`	`- reordered options`
`13:22.22`	`striper`	`wasn't the darkmoon faire anywhere near the exodar now?`
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`13:27.20`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`what's the command for Omen menu?`
`13:27.54`	`ramoz`	`/omen`
`13:27.55`	`ramoz`	`:P`
`13:28.02`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`doesn't work >.<`
`13:29.27`	`ramoz`	`really?`
`13:29.35`	`ramoz`	`/omen toggle to show the window atleast`
`13:30.20`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Type '/help' for a listing of a few commands.`
`13:30.39`	`CIA-22`	`03jerry * r45520 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua:`
`13:30.39`	`CIA-22`	`ItemBonusLib:`
`13:30.39`	`CIA-22`	`_ Modified handling of PATTERNS_SKILL_RATING for frFR.`
`13:30.39`	`CIA-22`	`_ Modified handling of GENERIC_PATTERNS to remove a couple of bad detection in staged patterns for frFR.`
`13:30.39`	`CIA-22`	`_ Added a lot of new bonuses, in enUS and frFR.`
`13:30.39`	`CIA-22`	`_ Fix a couple of combat rating entries in enUS.`
`13:30.41`	`CIA-22`	`_ Removal of old patterns for enUS and frFR.`
`13:32.15`	`Cheads`	`/omen works fine here`
`13:32.21`	`Cheads`	`make sur eit`
`13:32.34`	`Cheads`	`make sure it's loaded. and not some evil load error =)`
`13:34.29`	`CIA-22`	`03jaslaughter * r45521 10JasonQuest/ (Comm.lua Core.lua LogFrame.lua LogFrame.xml ReadMe.txt):`
`13:34.29`	`CIA-22`	`JasonQuest:`
`13:34.29`	`CIA-22`	`- Player-to-player messages should not be sent in battlegrounds, hopefully getting`
`13:34.29`	`CIA-22`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:34.29`	`CIA-22`	`- Added (slightly out of scope) party XP info -- Just mouse-over their tab to see`
`13:34.30`	`CIA-22`	`- Player will now refresh cached quest list before responding to sync requests`
`13:36.30`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`http://ace.pastey.net/71685`
`13:36.39`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`that's my omen troubles`
`13:37.34`	`Josh_Borke`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: install sink-1.0`
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`13:39.38`	`Tinyboom`	`is it sink-1.0 or sinklib? :)`
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`13:39.50`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`was about to ask just that`
`13:40.01`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`'cause wau can't find sink-1.0`
`13:40.07`	`Tinyboom`	`try sinklib`
`13:40.52`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`why isn't sink in the omen download, if it's a dependency?`
`13:41.12`	`cncfanatics`	`~seen coghweel`
`13:41.14`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'coghweel', cncfanatics`
`13:41.20`	`cncfanatics`	`~ seen cogwheel`
`13:41.21`	`purl`	`cogwheel <n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 8h 24m 25s ago, saying: 'just noticed they put this up :)'.`
`13:41.30`	`cncfanatics`	`damn why do I always miss him ?`
`13:43.21`	`cncfanatics`	`nevcairiel, ping`
`13:44.01`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`PLEASE help me, where can I find sink-1.0?`
`13:44.24`	`cncfanatics`	`files.wowace.com`
`13:44.26`	`cncfanatics`	`search for SinkLib`
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`13:44.54`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I installed sinklib...didn't fix omen :<`
`13:44.57`	`Ominous`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: you may need to press F5 in wau`
`13:45.03`	`cncfanatics`	`http://files.wowace.com/SinkLib/SinkLib-r45197.zip will do fine`
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`13:46.19`	`Demetrious`	`For cowtip, is it possible to move the tooltip, so it doesn't show at the mouse pointer?`
`13:46.31`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`demetrious: yes`
`13:46.38`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`look for "offset", methinks`
`13:46.52`	`Chompers`	`or the other options`
`13:47.02`	`Chompers`	`various points around the screen`
`13:47.07`	`Demetrious`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: Will do. Thanks. I installed it and uninstalled because the default was giving me headache :)`
`13:47.40`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`x)`
`13:47.44`	`Chompers`	`didn't you look at the options menu?`
`13:48.03`	`Demetrious`	`I did. There are lots of options to go through. I needed to play.`
`13:49.02`	`Demetrious`	`Another non-related question. Is there a replacement for Benecast on ACE (or other)? Any addon that allows the adding of the spells to use on the side of your and your group icons?`
`13:49.49`	`krka`	`when you say ACE, what do you think the letters stand for?`
`13:49.50`	`cncfanatics`	`~framexml`
`13:49.50`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/`
`13:49.59`	`cncfanatics`	`krka, its Ace not ACE`
`13:50.04`	`cncfanatics`	`:)`
`13:50.15`	`krka`	`obviously, _I_ knew that.`
`13:50.23`	`cncfanatics`	`Demetrious didn't :)`
`13:50.25`	`Demetrious`	`I now I know too.`
`13:50.36`	`Demetrious`	`Obviously; thank you. :-)`
`13:50.42`	`cncfanatics`	`either way Demetrious, not that I know off, but if it works, why replace it ?`
`13:50.54`	`Demetrious`	`cncfanatics: It isn't working for me.`
`13:50.57`	`Chompers`	`awesome cookie eaters = ACE`
`13:51.17`	`cncfanatics`	`hah`
`13:51.25`	`cncfanatics`	`~ACE`
`13:51.26`	`purl`	`rumour has it, ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind. See http://www.wowace.com/`
`13:51.48`	`Demetrious`	`So, Ace means nothing in specific. Just a name, right?`
`13:51.57`	`cncfanatics`	`~golfclap Demetrious`
`13:52.06`	`cogwheel`	`Demetrious: it means something for developers`
`13:52.17`	`Demetrious`	`cogwheel: Enlighten me.`
`13:52.19`	`Josh_Borke`	`THE DEVIL!`
`13:52.21`	`cncfanatics`	`cogwheel ! I needed you :)`
`13:52.26`	`Josh_Borke`	`jusut kidding`
`13:52.30`	`cogwheel`	`and probably shouldn't mean as much as it does for users`
`13:52.50`	`Chompers`	`Demetrious: what class do you play?`
`13:52.56`	`cncfanatics`	`Demetrious, its a framework of libraries that trivialises some irritating parts of addon writing for us`
`13:53.11`	`Demetrious`	`Chompers: Main is a priest, a shadow priest, that heals when he feels condescendent.`
`13:53.24`	`cncfanatics`	`cogwheel, would you have time to answer some questions about secure buttons for me ?`
`13:53.40`	`clad\|away`	`morning cogwheel`
`13:53.42`	`cogwheel`	`sure... i'll be around for a little bit`
`13:53.46`	`cogwheel`	`morning, clad\|away :)`
`13:53.58`	`Josh_Borke`	`what are irritating parts of writing addons? o.O`
`13:54.05`	`Demetrious`	`cncfanatics: Right. But Ace isn't an acronym. It is a name given to "a framework of libraries that trivialises some irritating parts of addon writing for us."`
`13:54.11`	`Chompers`	`i don't know of an addon like benecast, but our guilds healers say Grid is fantastic with healing macros`
`13:54.15`	`cncfanatics`	`Demetrious, yes it is indeed`
`13:54.21`	`cncfanatics`	`Josh_Borke, slashcommands being one`
`13:54.36`	`cncfanatics`	`and unfortunatly, AceConsole doesnt suit me so I had to write my own engine for those :p`
`13:54.49`	`Josh_Borke`	`ok, yea, slash commands are a pita`
`13:55.00`	`Josh_Borke`	`but most configuration shouldn't be slash commands ;-)`
`13:55.08`	`Josh_Borke`	`imo`
`13:55.16`	`cncfanatics`	`I like proposing both`
`13:55.43`	`clad\|away`	`whats an addon that lets you arbitrarily bind spells and items to keypresses, mouseclicks?`
`13:56.04`	`Josh_Borke`	`clique only handles keypresses, one second`
`13:56.07`	`cncfanatics`	`I'd take an actionbar with hidden buttons for that tbh`
`13:56.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Demetrious: Ace is: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=define:+ace&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 enjoy ;>`
`13:56.13`	`Josh_Borke`	`gello wrote one`
`13:56.44`	`Demetrious`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: You are quite funny :) Here, have a cookie. :-P`
`13:57.01`	`cncfanatics`	`cogwheel, I've been coding on FlexBar2 again lately and having not coded anything in lua for 6 months, I totaly forgot how secure templates & stuff work for actionbuttons (again). Could you pastey me a basic example of how to get a secure button frame setup with a few shapeshifts ?`
`13:57.12`	`xt`	`clad\|away: SpellBindar`
`13:57.17`	`Josh_Borke`	`hm, gello didn't write it...`
`13:57.35`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: check out CogsBar v1.1 on wowinterface. It has heavily documented source code and is very small and easy to follow :)`
`13:57.45`	`cncfanatics`	`cogwheel, thanks :) should help`
`13:58.01`	`cogwheel`	`although, it's slightly outdated. The new macro option-driven state headers are much more flexible`
`13:58.21`	`Josh_Borke`	`bindpad also clad`
`13:58.44`	`clad\|away`	`thanks`
`13:59.02`	`cncfanatics`	`cogwheel, any documentation / examples anywhere for those ?`
`13:59.09`	`clad\|away`	`and those allow binding to something like, shift-leftclick or no?`
`13:59.38`	`Josh_Borke`	`hm, bindpad is ONLY for buttons, blast`
`14:00.01`	`clad\|away`	`ah okay`
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`14:00.49`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Demetrious: I was going to go on with a gramatical explanation of "ace", but didn't quite know how to say it, so I just gave you all definitions :P`
`14:00.49`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`also: omgmeloveyoulongtimegeifcookies`
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`14:01.14`	`cncfanatics`	`Anonymous cookie eaters`
`14:01.34`	`[dRaCo]`	`that'd be ACE`
`14:01.42`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: SecureTemplates.lua: function SecureStateDriver_OnLoad`
`14:01.57`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`[dRaCo]: huh?`
`14:02.06`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: fyi: that's simply a backwards-compat hack to support the original style of state drivers`
`14:02.20`	`[dRaCo]`	`Anonymous cookie eaters <--`
`14:02.56`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ah`
`14:03.04`	`Demetrious`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: I appreciate your effords. Sadly, time constrains made me discart it.`
`14:03.09`	`Demetrious`	`:-)`
`14:03.21`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, there's going to be lots of reading going about I think, what can be done with secure headers except changing actions on states ?`
`14:03.27`	`cncfanatics`	`hiding, repositioning I think ?`
`14:03.49`	`cogwheel`	`hiding, positioning, & binding`
`14:04.09`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`for some reason, Omen won't work for me...hlep! :<`
`14:04.22`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it's no longer printing out errors btw`
`14:04.32`	`cncfanatics`	`ok, ty cogwheel, I'll get reading now`
`14:04.36`	`cncfanatics`	`~framexml`
`14:04.37`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/`
`14:04.40`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`ahhahaha`
`14:05.00`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`IRL Pictures thread on our realmforum. Some retard posted a picture from his photobucket where he had pictures of himself fucking some girl up the ass`
`14:05.03`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`and everything was unlocked`
`14:05.03`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`sadface`
`14:05.37`	`Chompers`	`was she hot?`
`14:06.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`rofl`
`14:06.39`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`She wasn't bad`
`14:06.42`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`Luckily for his sake`
`14:06.44`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`i saved the pictures`
`14:06.48`	`krka`	`thread link?`
`14:06.52`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`since he deleted them =D`
`14:06.56`	`cncfanatics`	`the post most probably got deleted`
`14:06.58`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`lmao`
`14:07.24`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`Now`
`14:07.25`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I roxxorzboxxorxz at using four-digit acronyms`
`14:07.29`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`to see how much gold he wants to pay me`
`14:07.31`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`to not repost them`
`14:07.35`	`cncfanatics`	`heh`
`14:07.53`	`cncfanatics`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz, the Anonymous cookie eaters > you`
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`14:10.16`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`seriously though...someone plxplxprettyplxwithsugarontop help me make Omen work? :>`
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`14:11.53`	`cncfanatics`	`cogwheel, any way to add keybindings of dynamicaly created buttons to the keybindings menu ?`
`14:12.01`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`comeon! it's with sugar on top!`
`14:12.16`	`cncfanatics`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz, do you use WAU ?`
`14:12.30`	`Amadeo`	`Rumor has it that the next Microsoft Works is going to be free, but ad-funded...sounds pretty lame to me`
`14:12.35`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`cncfanatics: yes`
`14:14.08`	`cncfanatics`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz, close WoW, open WAU, press F5, wait, open WoW, start omen`
`14:15.50`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: I suppose you could manually add new buttons to the frame...`
`14:15.57`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`presing F5... does that update addons or only the addon list?`
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`14:16.42`	`Tinyboom`	`just list i think`
`14:17.02`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`'cause if it updates the addons, I'm never touching f5 keke ^^`
`14:17.02`	`cogwheel`	`time for work...`
`14:17.24`	`cncfanatics`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz, updates addons and their depencies`
`14:18.02`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`well, then I'm never touching f5 :<`
`14:18.13`	`Tinyboom`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: F10 you mean? :p`
`14:18.28`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Tinyboom: not really? what 'bout f10?`
`14:18.50`	`Tinyboom`	`are you thinking about the java version? cause mine updates addons with F10:p`
`14:20.03`	`deltron`	`java keybinds don't work for me`
`14:20.24`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I dunno wether or not it's java`
`14:20.24`	`deltron`	`but it's F9 to download list, F10 to update mods`
`14:20.35`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`doesn't show a java loading screen or anything though`
`14:23.05`	`Tinyboom`	`oh well, mine is set to F5 for reloading index, and F10 to update all installed addons:) and in preference automatic dependency should be set afaik:)`
`14:23.14`	`Amadeo`	`http://www.wowbash.com/images/1185248286.gif`
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`14:36.36`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I hate holy priests without Silent Resolve :<`
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`14:38.09`	`Grum`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: its not that needed`
`14:39.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it is when he's overhealing and pulling aggro all the time`
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`14:40.05`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`he's pulling aggro more than both rogue, warlock and shadowpriest`
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`14:42.05`	`Cerium`	`http://gallery.filefront.com/Qatare//633082/ What is the name on the chat addon?`
`14:42.44`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`looks alot like my Prat setup`
`14:42.56`	`Tinyboom`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: you are using the java version of WAU, just checked;)`
`14:43.23`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Tinyboom: how can you tell?`
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`14:44.42`	`Undine`	`anyone got a nice CowTip config I can nick, for I am lazy`
`14:45.00`	`kenlyric`	`DE-FAULT`
`14:45.03`	`Tinyboom`	`checked the keybindings in win wau and java wau^^ to refresh in java wau you hit F9:)`
`14:45.22`	`Undine`	`specifically, one that shows difficult colouring for mobs`
`14:46.36`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`well, it's F5 in my wau ;>`
`14:46.54`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`someone else had F9`
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`14:49.03`	`kebinusan`	`bleh`
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`14:59.27`	`Tinyboom`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: I think i need glasses, was deltron I meant:p`
`15:03.05`	`CIA-22`	`03durcyn * r45522 10BigBrother/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`15:03.05`	`CIA-22`	`BigBrother:`
`15:03.05`	`CIA-22`	`- Nice try localizing, but do please name files correctly. euUS -> enUS`
`15:03.05`	`CIA-22`	`- add a bunch of missing svn:externals`
`15:03.05`	`CIA-22`	`- use embeds.xml`
`15:03.06`	`CIA-22`	`- use Parser-3.0. Full disclosure: drycoded. Please report bugs.`
`15:03.08`	`CIA-22`	`- I like pie.`
`15:04.22`	`dodgizzla`	`Mmmh, pie.`
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`15:04.32`	`dodgizzla`	`Though, some say cake is better.`
`15:04.40`	`durcyn`	`those people are heathens`
`15:05.06`	`dodgizzla`	`Stone 'em!`
`15:05.14`	`Josh_Borke`	`how do you dump a table using AceConsole?`
`15:05.46`	`Grum`	`iep drycodingbadiek!`
`15:08.07`	`kebinusan`	`bleh, Sink needs a sticky option added but I cant figure out how to do it`
`15:09.06`	`Amadeo`	`Your mom needs a...ok, I can't do it, I need ckknight`
`15:09.14`	`kebinusan`	`yes, yes she does`
`15:09.29`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`So what can I use if I want to dump a whole tables contents to console? Including subtables`
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`15:23.40`	`Cryect`	`Dustwhisper\|: use :PrintLiteral`
`15:25.47`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`so just PrintLiteral( tablename ) ?`
`15:25.56`	`Cryect`	`exactly`
`15:26.08`	`Cryect`	`If the table is too big it will time out though and start just printing the table number`
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`15:29.12`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`oh`
`15:29.17`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it wont automaticly print out subtables`
`15:29.24`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`guess i need to recurse that`
`15:29.58`	`Cryect`	`it prints out subtables just it likely will time out`
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`15:35.31`	`DarkImakuni`	`is trac fubar?`
`15:35.44`	`Gamefaq`	`Ammo around?`
`15:36.19`	`DarkImakuni`	`nah, he's human-shaped :P`
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`15:44.15`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://www.worldofraids.com/news/expansion/theworgen.jpg`
`15:44.21`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Worgen can equip gear now :O`
`15:44.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`FYI`
`15:44.38`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I would play the everliving hell out of a worgen.`
`15:45.20`	`Amadeo`	`that would be fun`
`15:45.34`	`Amadeo`	`Antiarc's not a player, he just codes a lot`
`15:45.44`	`Amadeo`	`I guess that works better with ckknight`
`15:46.00`	`Demetrious`	`I could play undeads exclusively, if only they could play all classes or new classes were made available. Blizzard still doesn't get it. It isn't about new races: create new classes.`
`15:46.13`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I have three 65+ characters and raid 5 days/week. ;)`
`15:46.17`	`Amadeo`	`I agree with Demetrious`
`15:46.20`	`Amadeo`	`It's about classes`
`15:46.26`	`Amadeo`	`they should do both`
`15:46.33`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Demetrious: Rumor on the street is that Death Knights are going to be available in the next xpac.`
`15:46.52`	`Demetrious`	`Antiarc\|Work: I read, yes. Keeping fingers crossed.`
`15:46.54`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`You perform certain objectives with your main and then you can create the DK, who starts at least partially pre-leveled.`
`15:47.13`	`Amadeo`	`Interesting`
`15:47.19`	`Amadeo`	`can a Paladin turn into one? :)`
`15:47.24`	`Fisker-`	`Antiarc\|Work in the same way everything can wear gear`
`15:47.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Fisker-: Worgen did not previously have model attach points.`
`15:47.52`	`Fisker-`	`which proves nothing still`
`15:48.07`	`Fisker-`	`They have not made worgen specific models yet`
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`15:48.16`	`Fisker-`	`So even Goblins have more credibillity as a race`
`15:48.49`	`Fisker-`	`But it's likely that they want Worgen to play a bigger role in World of Warcraft soon`
`15:49.12`	`Chompers`	`i wanna be a worgen :<`
`15:49.19`	`Amadeo`	`I wanna be a Death Knight`
`15:49.26`	`Chompers`	`hai2u fisker`
`15:49.36`	`Fisker-`	`I'd like to see the exact date it was added though`
`15:49.41`	`Fisker-`	`oh hai Chompers`
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`15:51.31`	`Coruss`	`is all that for real? or just speculation?`
`15:51.57`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It seems fairly reasonable.`
`15:52.01`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`does damage from spell reflect give you more threat? (in a tank situation)`
`15:52.06`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The expansion is going to be Northrend - we know that much already.`
`15:52.12`	`Fisker-`	`a lot more reasonable than the faq leak atleast`
`15:52.27`	`Fisker-`	`but i still doubt it`
`15:52.30`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: It gives you threat equivalent to the threat generated by the spell's damage, as though you'd cast it yourself.`
`15:52.41`	`Amadeo`	`This next expansion should be really good, since I imagine they want to keep people from going to Warhammer`
`15:52.43`	`Fisker-`	`I think they might just be prepping some worgen models for Gil'Neas`
`15:52.45`	`Fisker-`	`err`
`15:52.46`	`Fisker-`	`wtf`
`15:52.48`	`Fisker-`	`Gilneas`
`15:53.18`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Apostrophe'd!`
`15:53.34`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Antiarc\|Work: does it include def-stance threat bonus?`
`15:53.53`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: I dunno`
`15:54.01`	`kenlyric`	`Demetrious: what new class would you add?`
`15:55.27`	`Tinyboom`	`a class that would always win over locks:p so we could gank them "alllllll night loooooong" ^^ (yes I am a mage:p)`
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`15:55.38`	`MoonWolf`	`Tinyboom, live with it`
`15:55.39`	`Demetrious`	`kenlyric: It is up to imagination, really. Blend existing classes into one unique, or build up one from scratch. I will need time to think about it.`
`15:55.44`	`MoonWolf`	`even when locks get balanced,`
`15:55.50`	`MoonWolf`	`they are like a hard counter to mages`
`15:55.59`	`kenlyric`	`what hole do you see int eh current classes that a new class can fill?`
`15:55.59`	`MoonWolf`	`felpuppy destroy's mages dead.`
`15:56.10`	`Coruss`	`anyone have any ideas on timeline for the next xpac?`
`15:56.11`	`MoonWolf`	`non healing support classes.`
`15:56.15`	`Fisker-`	`all casters are overpowered`
`15:56.17`	`kenlyric`	`another hybrid that will be forced to go one way or another?`
`15:56.23`	`MoonWolf`	`Coruss, nothing that isnt pulled our of thin air.`
`15:56.29`	`MoonWolf`	`kenlyric, not a hybrid`
`15:56.31`	`Demetrious`	`kenlyric: No hybrid.`
`15:56.34`	`MoonWolf`	`a non healing support class`
`15:56.37`	`Coruss`	`I'd love to see a caster version of a rogue`
`15:56.42`	`kenlyric`	`what non-hybrid roles aren't filled?`
`15:56.42`	`MoonWolf`	`someone that buffs, debuffs and helps a raid by being there`
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`15:56.46`	`Fisker-`	`all casters are overpowered`
`15:56.51`	`MoonWolf`	`instead of damageging taking or dpsing`
`15:57.02`	`kenlyric`	`MoonWolf: you mean like a healer.`
`15:57.06`	`MoonWolf`	`something like a shadowpriest without the damage.`
`15:57.06`	`Ascalia`	`are the latest commits delayed again?`
`15:57.18`	`MoonWolf`	`kenlyric, but he isn't healing, or for trivial amounts.`
`15:57.20`	`Tinyboom`	`MoonWolf: I am, every day:p though being frost arcane helps:D always love the confused lock seeing his health dropping around 5K per hit:p`
`15:57.22`	`Amadeo`	`kenlyric: I think he means like what a Warlock was supposed to be`
`15:57.24`	`kenlyric`	`then why is there?`
`15:57.28`	`Coruss`	`i.e. most casts do small damage, then finishing move type spells do bigger hits`
`15:57.31`	`kenlyric`	`what is he doing that the healers aren't?`
`15:57.41`	`Demetrious`	`kenlyric: And it isn't about holes in an existing class. As a player, I would like to see more. I would even settle (for starters) to have the existing classes refreshed more drastically`
`15:57.54`	`Amadeo`	`Yes, instead of just copying abilities`
`15:58.11`	`kenlyric`	`the only practical thing a new class can do is fill a gap in the current classes. And I just don't see one.`
`15:58.24`	`Amadeo`	`Why does it need to fill a gap?`
`15:58.28`	`durcyn`	`all melee is overpowered too, fisker. nerf everyone.`
`15:58.28`	`kenlyric`	`Demetrious: that would work.`
`15:58.29`	`MoonWolf`	`okay, imagine a the buffs of a paladin, the aura's of moonkin or tree's combined with debuffing.`
`15:58.34`	`kenlyric`	`Amadeo: otherwise, why make it?`
`15:58.40`	`Amadeo`	`For fun, for money`
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`15:58.47`	`Amadeo`	`People want to play a new class`
`15:58.51`	`Coruss`	`MoonWolf: and imagine how boring it would be`
`15:58.54`	`Amadeo`	`In the end, it's a game`
`15:58.54`	`CIA-22`	`03samuelcup * r45523 10ErrorMonster/ (ErrorMonster-zhCN.lua ErrorMonster.toc): ErrorMonster: add zhCN translation`
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`15:59.13`	`MoonWolf`	`and by debfuffing i mean things like reducing stats or adding mechanics, not simply a dot.`
`15:59.17`	`kenlyric`	`yes, but you can't just make classes and throw them anywhere.`
`15:59.23`	`durcyn`	`eh, whose forum sig was it? Industrial? "I'm scissors, nerf rock. Paper's fine."`
`15:59.24`	`kenlyric`	`unless you make subclasses like EQ has`
`15:59.41`	`Amadeo`	`I wish the game had subclasses`
`15:59.48`	`kenlyric`	`talent trees.`
`15:59.49`	`MoonWolf`	`failing that giev caster with energy bar instead of mana plx.`
`15:59.54`	`Amadeo`	`or "Hero" classes, finally`
`15:59.58`	`Amadeo`	`kenlyric: stuff you couldn't respec out of`
`16:00.01`	`Coruss`	`MoonWolf: you forget the basic fact that most people simply don't want to sit there and buff/debuff, it's like ret pallies who used to aurabot`
`16:00.42`	`kenlyric`	`I'd be happy with a new class, but I can't think of any that aren't already in the game. Death knight is just a ret pally.`
`16:00.43`	`MoonWolf`	`well, the mechanics could be made to be involved and fun, i'm not a designer, i can't think of way's to do that, but i'm sure someone else could.`
`16:00.44`	`Amadeo`	`the game would be more fun with diversity`
`16:01.04`	`MoonWolf`	`and for those who only care about dps meters or hps meters, well, they would never play said class ever anyway.`
`16:01.15`	`Kaelten`	`g'morning`
`16:01.23`	`MoonWolf`	`oh and hike up respec cost max to 150 or something.`
`16:01.23`	`Kaelten`	`ErrorMonster?`
`16:01.26`	`MoonWolf`	`that would be a nice change.`
`16:01.31`	`MoonWolf`	`g'day Kaelten`
`16:01.43`	`Demetrious`	`I was thinking the other day, while I played my 46 hunter: hunters shouldn't have mana. Upon entering a fight --based on ther talent tree-- they should start with a pre-set amount of "rage" (let's call it that way). As their pet takes and dish out damage, that "rage" should increase.`
`16:02.03`	`Coruss`	`MoonWolf: if you're going to do that, you need to make the cost drop on a weekly basis instead of monthly, so you don't screw over the people who only occassionally respec`
`16:02.04`	`MoonWolf`	`hunters were supposed to have focus like their pet`
`16:02.08`	`Demetrious`	`Just like a warrior.`
`16:02.13`	`MoonWolf`	`it would only generate when the hunter was standing still`
`16:02.17`	`MoonWolf`	`and drop to zero when he moved`
`16:02.29`	`MoonWolf`	`it did not really work out in practice and they switched it to mana.`
`16:02.34`	`Coruss`	`that actually sonuds like a decent mechanic`
`16:02.48`	`Coruss`	`but eliminates mobile fights`
`16:02.55`	`MoonWolf`	`Coruss, it would never work in the current game, to muchmobile bosses`
`16:03.02`	`Coruss`	`see above &&`
`16:03.03`	`MoonWolf`	`hunter dps would be utterly useless`
`16:03.04`	`Coruss`	`*^^`
`16:03.05`	`Stan__`	`don't forget PvP`
`16:03.29`	`Coruss`	`meh, don't even want to talk about hunters`
`16:03.52`	`durcyn`	`hunters should just be removed from the game anyway.`
`16:03.57`	`Coruss`	`.agree`
`16:04.00`	`durcyn`	`give tranq shot to rogues, thanks for coming out.`
`16:04.02`	`MoonWolf`	`yeah, and warlocks should get a buff`
`16:04.14`	`Coruss`	`lol, well we know what classes those two play`
`16:04.26`	`durcyn`	`eh? i play a warlock.`
`16:04.32`	`kenlyric`	`I assumed they were being sarcastic.`
`16:04.42`	`durcyn`	`i hate all physical damage classes equally.`
`16:04.43`	`MoonWolf`	`i was.`
`16:04.45`	`durcyn`	`rogues should have their hands removed.`
`16:04.46`	`Coruss`	`as was I`
`16:04.51`	`durcyn`	`warriors should be forcibly castrated`
`16:04.52`	`durcyn`	`etc.`
`16:04.57`	`MoonWolf`	`durcyn, but hunters are part arcane.`
`16:05.12`	`durcyn`	`i'm made of paper, arcane hurts just as much`
`16:05.47`	`MoonWolf`	`lol kick, lol gouge lol cs lol CloS lol blind.`
`16:06.06`	`durcyn`	`you forgot "MACE STUN EFFECT LOL"`
`16:06.13`	`Coruss`	`lol`
`16:06.17`	`MoonWolf`	`if it wasn't for blink mages would never stand a ghost of a chance`
`16:06.25`	`CIA-22`	`03ascalia * r45524 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.de.lua:`
`16:06.25`	`CIA-22`	`AtlasLoot:`
`16:06.25`	`CIA-22`	`- fixed German Stratholme/BRD/ZF bugs`
`16:06.25`	`CIA-22`	`- updated some untranslated TableNames`
`16:06.30`	`durcyn`	`oh and 90% of the time, "WOTF HAR"`
`16:06.33`	`MoonWolf`	`did i mention i hate blink.`
`16:06.39`	`Coruss`	`ya if I ever had the motivation, I'd love to level weaponsmithing on my rogue and try a combat maces build`
`16:06.48`	`Demetrious`	`I would give vanish to druids... :) [seriously]`
`16:06.48`	`durcyn`	`undead mace rogues are the reason i cry myself to sleep`
`16:07.02`	`Coruss`	`vanish belongs to rogues, druids will never get aggro drops`
`16:07.17`	`MoonWolf`	`come on, AP only hurts a little bit.`
`16:07.27`	`Demetrious`	`Well, maybe call it something else, but the end effect is the same.`
`16:07.28`	`MoonWolf`	`Coruss, ever herd of cower ?`
`16:07.34`	`MoonWolf`	`heard*`
`16:07.37`	`ccKep`	`anyone know when the darkmoon faire finishes setting up?`
`16:07.48`	`Coruss`	`only in terms of the hunter pet ability, that said, my druid is only 22`
`16:08.01`	`MoonWolf`	`ferals have it too`
`16:08.06`	`MoonWolf`	`works exactly like feint`
`16:08.09`	`Coruss`	`well then they sure as hell don't need vanish`
`16:08.14`	`MoonWolf`	`sure its not a vanish`
`16:08.18`	`CIA-22`	`03helium * r45525 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):`
`16:08.18`	`CIA-22`	`Babble-2.2:`
`16:08.18`	`CIA-22`	`- updated zhTW: Spell, Fraction`
`16:08.22`	`MoonWolf`	`but works decently enough as an agro drop.`
`16:08.30`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=305511214&postId=3054239192&sid=1#0 k.`
`16:08.31`	`Coruss`	`they gets heals and immune to polymorph`
`16:08.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`eu peeps plxplxhlep :>`
`16:08.43`	`Coruss`	`giving them an escape method to go with it is OP`
`16:08.59`	`MoonWolf`	`but they need CloS`
`16:09.11`	`MoonWolf`	`we could call it, Coat of Shadow.`
`16:09.34`	`Coruss`	`lol`
`16:09.38`	`Coruss`	`they get bleeds`
`16:09.46`	`Coruss`	`they don't need the rogue tricks, they have better ones`
`16:09.48`	`MoonWolf`	`so do subtelty rogues`
`16:09.55`	`Fisker-`	`who get bleed?`
`16:09.58`	`Coruss`	`druids`
`16:10.03`	`MoonWolf`	`druids and subtelty rogues`
`16:10.04`	`durcyn`	`they can also TANK AND HEAL hellooo`
`16:10.06`	`Fisker-`	`ah`
`16:10.08`	`Coruss`	`most of the cat form moves are bleeds`
`16:10.09`	`Cryect`	`Druids I will say don't really need a vanish, can't feasibly generate the amount of threat necessary to pull aggro with salv on after any sort of period of time (it can be a little sketchy at the beginning if bad tank rolls and good crit rolls but you just back off, without salv though you have to hold off a lot)`
`16:10.13`	`MoonWolf`	`actually sub rogues get decent versions of normal rogue bleeds.`
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`16:10.41`	`MoonWolf`	`but its hard to fit both S&D and garrote into a dps rotation.`
`16:10.45`	`Coruss`	`yes, and ferals are supposed to have a subset of rogue abilities, not all of them`
`16:10.52`	`MoonWolf`	`s/garrote/rupture/`
`16:11.01`	`Cryect`	`heh was thinking garrote?`
`16:11.02`	`Demetrious`	`Cryect: Mages get invisibility, that works just like vanish, but timed. Why not druids?`
`16:11.23`	`MoonWolf`	`because invis is the mage's only agro dump`
`16:11.27`	`Coruss`	`escapability`
`16:11.28`	`MoonWolf`	`while druids already have cower.`
`16:11.32`	`Coruss`	`druids aren't meant to have it`
`16:11.36`	`Coruss`	`they have survivability`
`16:11.36`	`Demetrious`	`And escape.`
`16:11.44`	`Demetrious`	`In PvP is very good as well.`
`16:11.47`	`Cryect`	`Demetrious: why? we don't generate the threat necessary to pull, they purposelly don't give us an additional escape mechanism we use to have play dead`
`16:11.50`	`MoonWolf`	`on top of that, druids get instant speed and the ability to stealth, in any spec`
`16:11.52`	`Demetrious`	`This is not only a PvE world.`
`16:11.57`	`MoonWolf`	`for escape.`
`16:12.05`	`Cryect`	`they want druids to have to escape via movement not play dead`
`16:12.16`	`Coruss`	`druids don't need to escape`
`16:12.24`	`Demetrious`	`We are confussing things.`
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`16:12.28`	`MoonWolf`	`ever tried world pvp as a tree`
`16:12.31`	`MoonWolf`	`yeah, it no worky.`
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`16:12.34`	`Coruss`	`between bear form armor, and heals, they survive`
`16:12.40`	`Demetrious`	`In an instance, a mage invisibility can save his/her life.`
`16:12.44`	`Demetrious`	`A druid dash will not.`
`16:12.53`	`MoonWolf`	`depends on the distance to the portal.`
`16:13.05`	`Cryect`	`shrug I can really dash to the front of an instance if I want and if the terrain is setup so I can exploit it normally`
`16:13.07`	`CIA-22`	`03darkimakuni * r45526 10Visor2GUI/Visor2GUI.xml:`
`16:13.07`	`CIA-22`	`Visor2GUI`
`16:13.07`	`CIA-22`	`- Bugfix`
`16:13.21`	`Cryect`	`but who cares`
`16:13.25`	`Cryect`	`its a dura oh no`
`16:13.31`	`Demetrious`	`I have seen it in countless of occassions, a mage will loose agro and stay alive. A druid dashing is followed until killed.`
`16:13.36`	`MoonWolf`	`on top of that, most druids can toss a combat ress to a resser before they die`
`16:13.38`	`Elkano`	`Demetrious, a mage has most likely higher peaks due to crits as a cat will have and dash is on a faster cooldown`
`16:13.47`	`MoonWolf`	`making running pointless.`
`16:13.47`	`Cryect`	`or into portaled, or mobs go into evade mode`
`16:13.59`	`Xuerian`	`MoonWolf: You'd think`
`16:14.03`	`Cryect`	`not saying run`
`16:14.05`	`MoonWolf`	`yes i would.`
`16:14.14`	`Cryect`	`but outside running is the druid escape method`
`16:14.21`	`Xuerian`	`moonsorrow: Problems begin to arise when you're being pounded by the remaining three mobs as you try to save the rest of the party XD`
`16:14.30`	`Elkano`	`ok, in case of a wipe a mage/rogue/hunter can put himself ooc but besides that...`
`16:14.33`	`MoonWolf`	`have some anticipation.`
`16:14.36`	`Kaelten`	`you people talk to much, I'm going to have to moderate the channel`
`16:14.40`	`MoonWolf`	`what ?`
`16:14.43`	`Cryect`	`haha Kaelten :-p`
`16:14.44`	`Kaelten`	`j/k`
`16:14.45`	`MoonWolf`	`talking is bad now ?`
`16:14.47`	`Kaelten`	`:P`
`16:14.48`	`MoonWolf`	`:P`
`16:14.50`	`Cryect`	`he just wants his CIA feed`
`16:15.02`	`Kaelten`	`CIA should be working`
`16:15.06`	`Cryect`	`it is`
`16:15.11`	`Kaelten`	`then whats the problem?`
`16:15.12`	`MoonWolf`	`isn't cia an rss feed too ?`
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`16:15.19`	`Cryect`	`there is no problem`
`16:15.22`	`Kaelten`	`oh, ok.`
`16:15.23`	`Kaelten`	`:P`
`16:15.24`	`Cryect`	`I was saying you want the channel quiet for CIA`
`16:15.26`	`Cryect`	`:_p`
`16:15.28`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`16:15.39`	`Kaelten`	`I have the latest.xml feed on my igoogle page`
`16:15.40`	`Cryect`	`CIA is also a website`
`16:15.46`	`Cryect`	`www.cia.vc I think it was?`
`16:15.53`	`Kaelten`	`ya, we're the largest repo there`
`16:16.17`	`Kaelten`	`http://cia.vc/stats/project?s_catalog=4`
`16:16.31`	`MoonWolf`	`what a suprise`
`16:16.34`	`art3mis`	`hey kael what concert are you guys talking about btw?`
`16:16.37`	`Kaelten`	`43% of the total events`
`16:16.42`	`MoonWolf`	`we happen to be, what a few hundred projects , instead of one.`
`16:16.44`	`Kaelten`	`the one saturday night at blizzcon`
`16:16.51`	`Kaelten`	`830ish projects actually`
`16:16.56`	`MoonWolf`	`yeah`
`16:17.03`	`Kaelten`	`although some of those repos there host more than one sub project`
`16:17.05`	`Kaelten`	`s`
`16:17.05`	`MoonWolf`	`i hope people on there go, WTF is that ACE thing.`
`16:17.44`	`MoonWolf`	`so yeah, i'll have to shut up know`
`16:17.59`	`Kaelten`	`I'm glad you know`
`16:18.07`	`MoonWolf`	`otherwise people might loose that idea that moonwolf is a mysterious guy in the op list that is never talkin, or here.`
`16:18.16`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
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`16:20.34`	`Thrae\|ppc`	`I always thought MoonWolf just used WowRadio to spread Wowace propaganda :D`
`16:20.50`	`MoonWolf`	`that and the reverse too.`
`16:21.10`	`MoonWolf`	`but I have to admit that a lot of my free time goes to wowradio since i joined it.`
`16:21.14`	`MoonWolf`	`and a lot less to wowace`
`16:21.18`	`MoonWolf`	`but i'm still here, and not leaving.`
`16:21.20`	`Chompers`	`i didn't know wolves lived on the moon, now i do`
`16:21.48`	`MoonWolf`	`Chompers, only moonwolves do.`
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`16:24.46`	`Kaelten`	`MoonWolf: is it not wowradio.com?`
`16:25.25`	`evl`	`Kaelten: www.wcradio.com`
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`16:26.27`	`Elkano`	`there aren't any enchants for waist, are there?`
`16:26.31`	`Kaelten`	`ah`
`16:26.33`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`nop`
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`16:30.18`	`kenlyric`	`I can enchant your belt off.`
`16:30.37`	`Mudkips`	`O.O`
`16:31.32`	`kenlyric`	`man, that's really less effective than "I can enchant your pants off"`
`16:32.17`	`luak`	`hi, hmm who is the author of aguf i should contact, when i have an idea/request for a little change?`
`16:32.46`	`Elkano`	`"I'll take his pants." - "Why do you want his pants? Oo" - "I don't want them, I just want to try it..."`
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`16:33.06`	`Elkano`	`~aguf`
`16:33.32`	`Megalon`	`Elkano: The Gamers? :>`
`16:33.44`	`Elkano`	`Megalon, yes :)`
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`16:34.09`	`Elkano`	`got the directors cut DVD a while ago ^^`
`16:34.29`	`Megalon`	`"I backstab him with a ballista" - "With a FUCKING SIEGE WEAPON? There must be a rule against this"`
`16:34.30`	`Megalon`	`:D`
`16:34.44`	`luak`	`@elkano: was this for me?`
`16:34.55`	`Megalon`	`this movie rocks hard ;D`
`16:35.02`	`CIA-22`	`03roartindon * r45527 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua:`
`16:35.02`	`CIA-22`	`Assessment`
`16:35.02`	`CIA-22`	`- More changes to death event log stuff`
`16:39.10`	`Elkano`	`luak, no, for you is "Who is andreasg?"`
`16:39.30`	`Elkano`	`oh, wait, this isn't jepardy`
`16:40.01`	`Elkano`	`Megalon, it happens a friend of mine supplyed the German subs ^^`
`16:40.42`	`Elkano`	`and "I shall smithe thee with my mighty blade" sucks wrt translation :/`
`16:41.32`	`CIA-22`	`03durcyn * r45528 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/embeds.xml: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: why wasn't Sink-1.0 in embeds.xml? We may never know. It is now.`
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`16:50.51`	`art3mis`	`whihc movie?`
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`16:56.52`	`Ascalia`	`is there a ETA for the wowace/files/ to be up to date again?`
`16:57.22`	`CIA-22`	`03cryect * r45529 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Sync.lua):`
`16:57.22`	`CIA-22`	`Recount - Removes heal correction debug code`
`16:57.22`	`CIA-22`	`- Fixes a bug with removing entries from the main window`
`16:57.52`	`Kaelten`	`Ascalia: as soon as I figure out a) why it wasn't running and b) why cron hates me`
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`16:58.36`	`Ascalia`	`wasn't it up again some hours ago?`
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`17:00.02`	`Josh_Borke`	`Kaelten: what kind of script is the files creation script?`
`17:00.17`	`Kaelten`	`python`
`17:00.43`	`CIA-22`	`03fieroivan * r45530 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: TradeskillInfo: Add data file back`
`17:00.48`	`Cryect`	`so its not even manually running at the moment?`
`17:01.19`	`Cryect`	`or just the cron script messed up`
`17:01.49`	`Josh_Borke`	`wtb bash -x for python ;-)`
`17:02.05`	`Kaelten`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:02.23`	`art3mis`	`i know why cron hates you kael`
`17:02.23`	`Josh_Borke`	`is there any sort of lock file that is preventing it from running?`
`17:02.39`	`art3mis`	`you forgot to give it a popcicle and load skillz.d in yer rc.init ;P`
`17:03.16`	`art3mis`	`that or its just jealous of you being so sexy heh`
`17:03.25`	`art3mis`	`pick whichever fits`
`17:04.25`	`Kaelten`	`running it manually`
`17:04.28`	`Kaelten`	`expect a big update`
`17:04.28`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`17:04.37`	`Cryect`	`hehe`
`17:04.37`	`Megalon`	`hooray`
`17:04.56`	`art3mis`	`heh just bind it to a port ;P`
`17:05.20`	`Fisker-`	`lol @ die hard 4.0`
`17:05.24`	`Kaelten`	`after this I just need to figure out why sendmail hates me`
`17:05.31`	`art3mis`	`sendmail hates everyone`
`17:05.35`	`Fisker-`	`Not even 8 minutes into the movie and i'm already lol'ing hard at the techno babble`
`17:05.46`	`art3mis`	`fisker: its awesome aint it?`
`17:06.06`	`Fisker-`	`yeah`
`17:06.09`	`art3mis`	`wait til you meet the warlock`
`17:06.14`	`Fisker-`	`li already did`
`17:06.14`	`art3mis`	`THAT is totally worth it`
`17:06.23`	`art3mis`	`in his basement?`
`17:06.25`	`Fisker-`	`even had cain & abel in the background`
`17:06.26`	`Fisker-`	`no`
`17:06.31`	`Fisker-`	`but the farrel guy talked to him`
`17:06.38`	`art3mis`	`no when they go to his house`
`17:06.38`	`Fisker-`	`and he had cain & abel in the background :P`
`17:06.44`	`Fisker-`	`but it's linux`
`17:07.02`	`Fisker-`	`cain & abel only have windows binaries i believe :P`
`17:07.07`	`Fisker-`	`anyways bbl`
`17:09.23`	`MoonWolf`	`kaelten, no its wcradio.com`
`17:09.26`	`Kaelten`	`that was fun apache2 was using up 400 MB of memory`
`17:09.30`	`MoonWolf`	`wowradio is owned by a domain squatter`
`17:09.32`	`Kaelten`	`MoonWolf: nice delayed reaction :P`
`17:09.37`	`Kaelten`	`ah`
`17:09.38`	`Kaelten`	`hate them`
`17:09.39`	`MoonWolf`	`sorry`
`17:09.40`	`MoonWolf`	`dinner`
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`17:13.52`	`Tornhoof`	`hmm is there any easy and fast fix to remove those randomly appearing huge textures in pitbull? (filling half the screen)`
`17:14.30`	`art3mis`	`select all the pitbull_xxx folders, right click and select delete ;P`
`17:14.32`	`MoonWolf`	`never seen that before.`
`17:16.30`	`Diao`	`nobody knows what's causing it exactly lol`
`17:16.35`	`CIA-22`	`03saroz * r45531 10BigBrother/embeds.xml: BigBrother: I hope someone was drunk when they did that.`
`17:16.55`	`Cryect`	`durcyn were you drunk? :-p`
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`17:18.33`	`CIA-22`	`03saroz * r45532 10BigBrother/embeds.xml: BigBrother: ... and add Babble-Spell`
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`17:20.30`	`Saroz`	`ok, BigBrother has errors everywhere`
`17:20.34`	`Saroz`	`grats on comitting shit`
`17:20.38`	`Saroz`	`fix it yourself`
`17:21.02`	`Cryect`	`I didn't commit it`
`17:21.15`	`Saroz`	`I know`
`17:21.21`	`Gngsk`	`revert ftw?`
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`17:22.14`	`Josh_Borke`	`saroz touched it last`
`17:22.17`	`Josh_Borke`	`i have proof`
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`17:25.22`	`NeoTron`	`speaking of errors, is Recount erroring out resolved?`
`17:25.41`	`MoonWolf`	`neotron, go find out.`
`17:25.54`	`Mudkips`	`I had recount go berzerk on me last night then I updated in the middle of the raid so it was fine after that`
`17:25.54`	`NeoTron`	`at work, I can't test it here`
`17:26.38`	`MoonWolf`	`grab the changelog for recount from cia then`
`17:26.46`	`EgoInvader`	`anyone here setup antiarc's Armory tool successfully?`
`17:26.51`	`NeoTron`	`that's not going to tell me if it's broken now is it?`
`17:27.33`	`MoonWolf`	`but it might include comments about fixes`
`17:27.42`	`NeoTron`	`I'm asking here because I figure Cryect, being the author, might have some input on it`
`17:27.48`	`Mudkips`	`damn what's the deal with server 2003 and slowing down firefox pages`
`17:28.07`	`MoonWolf`	`NeoTron, now you are making way to much sense`
`17:28.15`	`Josh_Borke`	`not allowed!`
`17:28.42`	`Cryect`	`yeah I think I got all the errors under control in recount`
`17:29.12`	`NeoTron`	`sounds good. They didn't seem to actually affect the performance of the addon though, once I turned off the sound in bugsack so I didn't go insane :)`
`17:29.20`	`FrostByghte`	`does CowTip essentially do the same thing as something like Tipbuddy would do?`
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`17:29.41`	`CIA-22`	`03athou * r45533 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua:`
`17:29.41`	`CIA-22`	`FuBar_RaidBuffFu:`
`17:29.41`	`CIA-22`	`- removed new buff name validation for the time being`
`17:29.42`	`Matrix110`	`Cryect can we get a option to not display the dps in the bar text?`
`17:29.55`	`Josh_Borke`	`and the option for recount to NOT suck?`
`17:29.56`	`Josh_Borke`	`;-P`
`17:30.03`	`Cryect`	`I made some really stupid bugs last night`
`17:30.05`	`Josh_Borke`	`cryect: have you guys killed Illidan yet?`
`17:30.20`	`Cryect`	`not display the dps in the bar text? you mean for realtimes?`
`17:30.22`	`Cryect`	`no`
`17:30.36`	`Cryect`	`on souls should die this week`
`17:30.47`	`Matrix110`	`yes Cryect`
`17:30.57`	`Cryect`	`Sure`
`17:31.02`	`ccKep`	`man, I really fucked this one up`
`17:31.08`	`Matrix110`	`thanks:)`
`17:31.10`	`ccKep`	`WTF\Account\...\SavedVariables\cRaidTracker.lua:1139522: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 1136201) near '<eof>'`
`17:31.14`	`ccKep`	`ayay xD`
`17:31.31`	`Josh_Borke`	`that file is kinda big`
`17:31.31`	`Saroz`	`hrrrm`
`17:31.35`	`Megalon`	`line 1136201`
`17:31.37`	`Megalon`	`:>`
`17:31.38`	`Saroz`	`why isnt Skinner skinning my PallyPower`
`17:31.45`	`ccKep`	`45mb, fucked up a loop =)`
`17:32.06`	`ccKep`	`(needless to say WoW crashed on that ReloadUI)`
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`17:32.58`	`Cryect`	`heh`
`17:42.15`	`xyu`	`wish my guild could kill mag. slack asses. :D`
`17:43.53`	`Fisker-`	`NO THEY DIDN'T`
`17:44.03`	`Fisker-`	`open harddrives`
`17:44.04`	`Fisker-`	`seriously`
`17:44.11`	`Fisker-`	`even if it's plexi it's still fucking stupid`
`17:45.37`	`Chompers`	`?`
`17:46.04`	`Fisker-`	`they "hacked" a server`
`17:46.13`	`Fisker-`	`and the harddrives were on like a pedestal`
`17:46.33`	`Fisker-`	`where you could see the driveplatter spinning`
`17:46.40`	`Chompers`	`:o`
`17:46.54`	`Chompers`	`they're filled with argon aren't they?`
`17:46.55`	`Fisker-`	`:D`
`17:47.00`	`Fisker-`	`dunno`
`17:47.25`	`Cryect`	`man being afk in shattrath in the middle of day sure doesn't generate many combat log messages :-p`
`17:50.08`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ckknight here?`
`17:50.22`	`Amadeo`	`I need a PoM Pyro macro, lol`
`17:50.24`	`Chompers`	`he's always here, in our hearts`
`17:50.30`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`rofl`
`17:50.43`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`for some reason, cowtip show the notes I've made on people in my guild tab, but won't show notes I've made in the friends-tab...any ideas?`
`17:50.45`	`Amadeo`	`I'm a Mage noob`
`17:50.51`	`jme`	`s/Mage//`
`17:51.01`	`jme`	`(kidding)`
`17:51.14`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`17:52.37`	`[dRaCo]`	`/cast Presence of Mind /stopcasting /use 13 /cast Pyroblast :P`
`17:53.20`	`[dRaCo]`	`oh... add /cast Arcane Might /stopcasting`
`17:53.35`	`Amadeo`	`that's it?`
`17:53.51`	`Amadeo`	`what's the use 13 thing?`
`17:53.55`	`[dRaCo]`	`trinket`
`17:54.07`	`[dRaCo]`	`upper trinket slot, to be precise`
`17:54.40`	`Amadeo`	`oh ok`
`17:54.55`	`[dRaCo]`	`if it doesn't work, try putting the trinket first`
`17:57.00`	`jme`	`can't you just /cast the trinket name?`
`17:57.11`	`jme`	`err... /use`
`17:57.28`	`[dRaCo]`	`yeah, you can`
`17:57.50`	`[dRaCo]`	`cast and use are equivalent, btw`
`17:57.56`	`jme`	`that's what i thought`
`17:58.14`	`jme`	`but i wasn't sure since you typed /use`
`17:58.16`	`[dRaCo]`	`but using the slot id makes it work with whatever trinket you have equipped`
`17:58.21`	`jme`	`right.`
`17:58.52`	`Wixi`	`Anyone got a link going into very deep Theory and numbers about threat`
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`17:59.04`	`[dRaCo]`	`yeah... it's easier to read that way. cast for spells, use for items.`
`17:59.14`	`jme`	`[dRaCo]: true.`
`17:59.44`	`[dRaCo]`	`Wixi: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t9258-kenco_guide_threat/`
`18:00.05`	`Wixi`	`thanks a lot`
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`18:02.30`	`kebinusan`	`Anyone care to comment on my scrub ui setup: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9830/wowscrnshot080107135245em8.jpg`
`18:02.39`	`kebinusan`	`looking for things I could improve`
`18:02.57`	`kebinusan`	`I need to tweak my pitbullsetup some`
`18:03.13`	`Mudkips`	`uhh`
`18:03.22`	`Mudkips`	`change the color of your buffbars and change the font`
`18:03.30`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`wtb [ckknight] k.`
`18:03.33`	`[dRaCo]`	`get a real font, yeah :�`
`18:03.53`	`kebinusan`	`pretty sure Im using calibri everywhere`
`18:04.00`	`kebinusan`	`tho no.. I reset pitbull It hink`
`18:04.14`	`[dRaCo]`	`the msbt font.`
`18:04.18`	`Mudkips`	`but uhhh`
`18:04.19`	`kebinusan`	`oh`
`18:04.20`	`kebinusan`	`heh`
`18:04.24`	`kebinusan`	`I like the msbt font`
`18:04.33`	`jme`	`kebinusan: only 671 dps? tsk tsk ;)`
`18:04.34`	`Mudkips`	`what's the deal with those combat logs`
`18:04.44`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`msbt?`
`18:04.44`	`Mudkips`	`I see them more often EEEEK`
`18:05.15`	`kebinusan`	`Mudkips: Eavesdrop?`
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`18:05.25`	`Mudkips`	`that's eavesdrop?`
`18:05.33`	`kebinusan`	`the thign next to my minimap? yea`
`18:05.40`	`Mudkips`	`~_~ I'll stick to simple combat log`
`18:05.52`	`CIA-22`	`03phyber * r45534 10Automaton/modules/Wuss.lua:`
`18:05.52`	`CIA-22`	`Automaton:`
`18:05.52`	`CIA-22`	`- Wuss: Make module appear in options list.`
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`18:06.01`	`[dRaCo]`	`I personally dont like portraits, useless stuff... and I prefer the good blizz way of arranging unit frames. but that's just me.`
`18:06.22`	`jme`	`[dRaCo]: you mean party frames under the player frame?`
`18:06.38`	`jme`	`well, target to the right of player`
`18:06.40`	`[dRaCo]`	`yeah. and target right of the play frame`
`18:07.29`	`[dRaCo]`	`but again, that's just me.`
`18:09.03`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`for some reason, cowtip show the notes I've made on people in my guild tab, but won't show notes I've made in the friends-tab...any ideas?`
`18:09.29`	`Kyahx`	`because friends notes aren't supported by the default UI ?`
`18:09.42`	`Kyahx`	`where-as guild public note is`
`18:09.42`	`Chompers`	`i didn't know cowtip had the ability to make notes on people`
`18:09.55`	`deltron`	`KOS! lol`
`18:09.59`	`[dRaCo]`	`kebinusan: my interface, if that helps. http://www.uny-net.de/rdr/uploads/photos/95.jpg`
`18:10.25`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Kyahx: it's not guild public note`
`18:10.41`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it's auldlangsyne`
`18:11.13`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`[dRaCo]: how's that raid signup in bigger raids than 10man?`
`18:11.46`	`CIA-22`	`03cryect * r45535 10Relog/ (Relog.lua parse.lua tags.lua units.lua): Relog - Deletes old units no longer in use now (need to recycle their tables or something though)`
`18:12.11`	`[dRaCo]`	`sucks in AV, fine for gruul :) growing towards the center`
`18:12.29`	`NeoTron`	`"World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King" <== for the win`
`18:13.00`	`[dRaCo]`	`old news.`
`18:13.03`	`Chaoslux`	`o.o`
`18:13.12`	`Chaoslux`	`book or new expansion?`
`18:13.16`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.gamespot.com/news/6175938.html?tag=latestnews;title;0`
`18:13.17`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`exp`
`18:13.20`	`NeoTron`	`didn't see that before`
`18:13.24`	`NeoTron`	`some pretty nice tidbits`
`18:13.28`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`[dRaCo]: yeah, the AV thought kinda scared me`
`18:13.33`	`Chaoslux`	`So, Northrend WILL become avaible i hope?`
`18:13.34`	`Chaoslux`	`=/`
`18:13.43`	`NeoTron`	`seems most likely atm`
`18:14.03`	`jme`	`i'm just going to stop raiding now, level 3 alts to 70, and pvp until northrend`
`18:14.13`	`Coruss`	`ya lets just hope it's not soon`
`18:14.25`	`Coruss`	`I'd actually like to y'know, see black temple before the next xpac`
`18:14.30`	`jme`	`exactly`
`18:14.31`	`NeoTron`	`would be nice to get more time to do the content that's out there.. yeah`
`18:14.39`	`Chaoslux`	`but, why do they decide to release a new expansion when they said they would release SC2?`
`18:14.41`	`jme`	`january would be too soon imo`
`18:14.43`	`[dRaCo]`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: got sRaidFrames for those occasions`
`18:14.48`	`Mudkips`	`all these people already going /stopraidinggearisbetternextexpansion`
`18:14.51`	`NeoTron`	`Chaoslux: err. different teams different games`
`18:14.56`	`Mudkips`	`I actually like BT`
`18:14.56`	`jme`	`i doubt i'll even be in a T5 raid by january`
`18:15.00`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`sec, I'll grab a screenie of my setup`
`18:15.01`	`Mudkips`	`hyjal is...`
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`18:15.08`	`Chaoslux`	`I wouldnt mind not seeing black temple`
`18:15.10`	`NeoTron`	`I just got my T5 shoulders the other day`
`18:15.16`	`Coruss`	`jme: I'd be happy to see it maybe christmas time, next year`
`18:15.17`	`jme`	`Chaoslux: same`
`18:15.17`	`Chaoslux`	`I would at least like to have money to buy BC before that ><`
`18:15.20`	`NeoTron`	`hoping for T5 pants tonight so I can get the 2 piece bonus`
`18:15.24`	`jme`	`Coruss: yep ;)`
`18:15.40`	`Coruss`	`that'd give even the casuals time to get near the current endgame`
`18:15.55`	`Mudkips`	`lol casuals don't endgame`
`18:16.04`	`Mudkips`	`they are happy enough just running around exploring`
`18:16.09`	`NeoTron`	`casuals aer unlikely since casual pretty much excludes getting 25 ppl together in a reasonbly consistent fashion`
`18:16.12`	`Coruss`	`by casuals I mean casual raiders`
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`18:16.19`	`jme`	`casual raiders exist`
`18:16.20`	`NeoTron`	`and then playing 3-5 hrs`
`18:16.24`	`Coruss`	`as in the people who are just now starting kara`
`18:16.29`	`Mudkips`	`yikes`
`18:16.35`	`jme`	`heh`
`18:16.40`	`jme`	`we are about to start gruul`
`18:16.53`	`Mudkips`	`good luck on nerfed gruul`
`18:16.58`	`jme`	`is that casual enough? ;)`
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`18:17.08`	`NeoTron`	`we had an unusually good last night getting up to fathom-lord last night. Unfortunately people were too stupid to DPS down the totems. :(`
`18:17.11`	`Mudkips`	`we attempted the week he was dumbed down`
`18:17.14`	`Mudkips`	`it was so much lol`
`18:17.21`	`jme`	`one shot?`
`18:17.27`	`Coruss`	`my guild has been running for kara, gruul, mags, and now exploring SSC now, but we've now finally got enough folks for a second kara run`
`18:17.35`	`NeoTron`	`Mudkips: more like "in line with the expected difficulty curve"`
`18:17.43`	`jme`	`Coruss: we've finally got enough people for a second kara group too`
`18:17.44`	`NeoTron`	`gruul and mags were a bit insane before for they place in the progression`
`18:17.54`	`jme`	`we actually finally have around 15-20 70s on most of the time`
`18:17.57`	`NeoTron`	`jme: I find it easier to run a 25-man raid than two karazhan raids..`
`18:18.06`	`jme`	`NeoTron: lol`
`18:18.11`	`Coruss`	`jme: it's the second group (the one I'm leading) that I'm concerned about progression for`
`18:18.29`	`jme`	`Coruss: yeah. our second group wiped 4 times on attumen last night :/`
`18:18.29`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`max people I've seen online in my current guild ever is 13 peoples :<`
`18:18.31`	`NeoTron`	`It's really hard to have two groups unless you have very specific consistent players and good l70 balance`
`18:18.33`	`break19`	`we almost had enough people to start running kara... then half of em decided they werent casual anymore, and joined a raid guild...`
`18:18.37`	`Mudkips`	`attumen`
`18:18.39`	`Mudkips`	`WTF`
`18:18.40`	`Coruss`	`luckily, most folks in my group have done kara before, just don't have a consistent group`
`18:18.45`	`Mudkips`	`they need serious help`
`18:18.52`	`Coruss`	`ya... attumen is ez-mode`
`18:18.59`	`Mudkips`	`even for casuals`
`18:18.59`	`jme`	`like i said, casuals`
`18:19.02`	`Mudkips`	`that fight is tank and spank`
`18:19.02`	`jme`	`hah`
`18:19.06`	`Coruss`	`his only real moves are debuffs and a charge`
`18:19.19`	`jme`	`the tank they have is awesome, prot pally.. he's maintaked all of kara in our main raid before`
`18:19.22`	`Coruss`	`I've seen stuff more complicated in non-raid bosses`
`18:19.31`	`Mudkips`	`prot pally? whoa`
`18:19.34`	`jme`	`yeah.`
`18:19.36`	`Coruss`	`even maiden?`
`18:19.39`	`jme`	`yep`
`18:19.45`	`Mudkips`	`I want to be in a raid with a prot pally as MT once`
`18:19.46`	`Coruss`	`now that is impressive`
`18:19.46`	`break19`	`Mudkips: if played right, a tankadin will outtank a warrior`
`18:19.48`	`Mudkips`	`I haven't had that chance`
`18:19.52`	`NeoTron`	`maiden should work ok for instant-cast spells`
`18:19.56`	`NeoTron`	`but not timed one`
`18:20.17`	`Mudkips`	`pallies are great tanks for multiple aoe mobs`
`18:20.31`	`Coruss`	`only times I've fought maiden was on my rogue, so I wouldn't know, but I remember the silence being always up`
`18:20.33`	`Mudkips`	`I don't see them tanking azgalor`
`18:20.33`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3719/wowscrnshot080107201549vb0.jpg my current ui :>`
`18:20.43`	`jme`	`http://tinyurl.com/26dll7 is our prot pally's armory`
`18:21.10`	`Chaoslux`	`Can i get a bigger version of the northrend supposed map shown in the wow insider?`
`18:21.15`	`Coruss`	`is omen compatible with KTM?`
`18:21.23`	`jme`	`Coruss: yes`
`18:21.27`	`Coruss`	`hmmm`
`18:21.37`	`Coruss`	`I may have to try it out then`
`18:21.41`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`doit!`
`18:21.46`	`CIA-22`	`03kemayo * r45536 10AuldLangSyne/Note/Note.lua:`
`18:21.46`	`CIA-22`	`AuldLangSyne: (Drycode)`
`18:21.46`	`CIA-22`	`-Note: rejig to use GameTooltip:OnTooltipSetUnit instad of plain old SetUnit.`
`18:21.55`	`Coruss`	`been trying to switch to a pure ace UI`
`18:22.12`	`jme`	`Coruss: very doable. i think my only non-ace addon is auctioneer.`
`18:22.13`	`durcyn`	`Saroz: yes, quite drunk`
`18:22.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`my UI (link above) is 100% aced`
`18:22.18`	`durcyn`	`Saroz: i blame sed`
`18:22.36`	`xb95`	`Omen is awesome, I highly recommend it.`
`18:22.40`	`deltron`	`yap`
`18:22.54`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`agreed`
`18:23.06`	`Mudkips`	`the only non-ace I have now is auctioneer and itemrack`
`18:23.47`	`Chaoslux`	`My only non-ace addon is FlagRSP, because there are no Ace-powered RP addons =[ (none to my knowledge at least)`
`18:23.49`	`durcyn`	`ClosetGnome > ItemRack`
`18:23.50`	`Coruss`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: to be honest, I'm not a fan... the raid frames are cluttered, and I'm not a big fan of huds, otherwise it's decent, chatframes and actionbars are nice tho`
`18:24.02`	`xb95`	`Although I must say, with the faster dynamic updating bars compared to KTM (they move!), this has caused the DPS in my raid to start "racing". "My race car is ahead of yours!" "No way! I'm going to pass you!" "Oh sweet, I'm passing Caulle!" (Caulle's MT.) "Oh, oh, win! WIN!" dead DPS`
`18:24.08`	`Mudkips`	`does closetgnome copy the itemrack bars?`
`18:24.22`	`durcyn`	`oh, no, it doesn't have the bar thingy.`
`18:24.23`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it can import stuff from itemrack with plugin atleast`
`18:24.24`	`jme`	`our warrior MT has 515 def and 13k hp / 14k armor unbuffed`
`18:24.30`	`Mudkips`	`ya I love the bars`
`18:24.33`	`xb95`	`needs more HP`
`18:24.36`	`jme`	`yeah`
`18:24.39`	`Mudkips`	`I use them as trinketmenu / weapon switch`
`18:24.44`	`Mudkips`	`except it's itemrack`
`18:24.49`	`jme`	`he does quite well in kara`
`18:25.00`	`jme`	`our healers need more +healing though =/`
`18:25.03`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Coruss: what's cluttered about the raid frames? name, health and class...doesn't need anything else`
`18:25.05`	`Coruss`	`hmm, well that's settled then, I'll try omen in my next instance run, probly not till late night tonight`
`18:25.49`	`Coruss`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: just positioning, I'd rather keep things on the sides and leave the middle band of the screen open, personal preference really`
`18:25.49`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`jme: wtf is the point of 515 def?`
`18:26.14`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Coruss: true, but since I have such a big visual area anyways, it never gets on top of important game content`
`18:26.15`	`jme`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: i don't know anything about def honestly`
`18:26.32`	`Coruss`	`515 is overkill`
`18:26.33`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`at 490 def you're immune to crit`
`18:26.33`	`kebinusan`	`you still get dodge and parry from def over 490`
`18:26.43`	`Coruss`	`warriors need 490 to never be crit vs level 73 mobs`
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`18:26.46`	`kebinusan`	`and if you dont have any other slotting options`
`18:26.49`	`kebinusan`	`shrugs`
`18:26.50`	`jme`	`Coruss: what about crushing?`
`18:26.54`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`kebinusan: true, but much better to grab it from gemming +dodge/parry instead of having loads of defense`
`18:26.59`	`Coruss`	`lol crushing is wiped off long before you become uncritable`
`18:27.04`	`jme`	`oh`
`18:27.10`	`jme`	`so anything above 490 is pointless?`
`18:27.10`	`Mudkips`	`nothing prevents crushing for me as a druid at least`
`18:27.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`imp. shield block = win`
`18:27.12`	`Coruss`	`ya, crushing is pushed off the table first`
`18:27.16`	`Coruss`	`not pointless`
`18:27.19`	`jme`	`except for the dodge`
`18:27.24`	`kebinusan`	`crushing is only pushed off with imp shield block up`
`18:27.26`	`Coruss`	`it does give extra dodge and parry and block`
`18:27.30`	`jme`	`yeah.`
`18:27.32`	`kebinusan`	`which isnt always up`
`18:27.34`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`jme: pretty much, I'm at 499 and trying desperately to find a way to get rid of 9 and get +hp instead`
`18:27.43`	`jme`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: ahh`
`18:27.45`	`Coruss`	`but after 490 you should be stacking stamina`
`18:27.49`	`Coruss`	`rather than more +def`
`18:28.04`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yeah, when you pass 490 defense, see what def gems you can replace with stamina gems`
`18:28.14`	`Cheads`	`stam and armor =)`
`18:28.17`	`jme`	`he got 12 def to bracers, he needs to trade that for the stam`
`18:28.19`	`Cheads`	`goes hand in hand`
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`18:28.36`	`jme`	`and 15 str to hands... isn't there a stam to hands too?`
`18:28.39`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I'm at 13k hp unbuffed, immune to crit, got approx 35% dodge/parry and 16-17% block`
`18:28.42`	`Coruss`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: what resolution do you run at?`
`18:28.59`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Coruss: 1280x1024, 0.64 UI scale`
`18:29.14`	`Coruss`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: aah it's the scale that does it then`
`18:29.18`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`17" lcd monitor`
`18:29.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Coruss: yeah, .64 UI scale does wonders when your gui addons can be resized to fit your needs :>`
`18:30.03`	`Coruss`	`ya I'm playing on a 15.4" laptop screen`
`18:30.14`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`been there, done that...I'm still in denial x)`
`18:30.23`	`Coruss`	`lol, I like it just for portability`
`18:30.27`	`jme`	`Coruss: same here, macbook pro`
`18:30.38`	`Coruss`	`ooh another mac user`
`18:30.45`	`Coruss`	`altho I think we've discussed that before`
`18:30.50`	`jme`	`maybe, heh`
`18:31.03`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3719/wowscrnshot080107201549vb0.jpg`
`18:31.03`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`anyone know how I can get my combatlog align to the right? (instead of left, which it is now)`
`18:31.52`	`Stan__`	`prat`
`18:32.00`	`Mudkips`	`O.O http://duggmirror.com/other_sports/Crazy_mountain_biking_pic/mtb-cliffs-of-moher.jpg`
`18:32.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Stan__: it does that? how?`
`18:32.25`	`Stan__`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: you can set the align in the chatframe options`
`18:32.28`	`Stan__`	`center - left- right`
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`18:34.16`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Stan__: I can't find it`
`18:34.25`	`Stan__`	`hm`
`18:34.37`	`Stan__`	`need to start wow, sec`
`18:35.20`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`in chaframes I have: alpha, max width/height*2, force main chat, lock pet bar`
`18:35.20`	`*** join/#wowace Prophh (i=prophy@cpe-66-65-84-109.nyc.res.rr.com)`
`18:36.41`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`nevermind, I just found it...thank you!`
`18:36.55`	`Stan__`	`mkay^^`
`18:36.59`	`Stan__`	`./prat waterfall`
`18:37.04`	`Stan__`	`and then the alignment settings`
`18:37.15`	`Coruss`	`well the wiki settles it, I'll try omen out and see if I can get my raid using it`
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`18:37.35`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I hate waterfall :<`
`18:37.36`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I found it in formatting --> justify`
`18:37.37`	`NeoTron`	`so last night I discovered that felguard spec = own on hydross and morogrim but lame on urker`
`18:38.25`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`^^`
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`18:39.42`	`Saladin`	`Okay, so I am summoning a small noncombat oet, and I get "Ace2 has been blocked blablabla, action only available to the default UI". What did I do wrong?`
`18:40.42`	`Coruss`	`lol would be nice to see the 'blablabla' part`
`18:41.13`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`indeed`
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`18:41.29`	`Saladin`	`Ace2 has been blocked from an action only available to the default UI. You can disable this addon and reaload the UI.`
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`18:41.32`	`Coruss`	`can you reproduce it?`
`18:41.35`	`Saladin`	`ages since I had that error before`
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`18:41.45`	`Coruss`	`hmm is your lua error reporting on?`
`18:41.52`	`NeoTron`	`so far fights where felguard just doesn't work is al'ar, void reaver (until 2xT5 at least), Lurker below (but might be usable if I change my tactic and don't try to use him for dps)`
`18:41.59`	`Coruss`	`it's in the interface options`
`18:42.41`	`Amadeo`	`When you roll a Warlock for the first time, before you login you have to perform the Konami code...if you do, you'll be unstoppable`
`18:42.47`	`Saladin`	`Coruss: what do I need to change?`
`18:42.53`	`Saladin`	`Didn't get anything from BugSack`
`18:42.59`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Stan__: about that alignment stuff...`
`18:43.02`	`NeoTron`	`Amadeo: what does that even mean!? :-P`
`18:43.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`any way to get the timestamp to be on the right side of the combatlog stuff?`
`18:43.13`	`Amadeo`	`NeoTron: up up, down down, left right, left right...`
`18:43.23`	`*** part/#wowace Demone (n=Demone@h-72-245-17-154.snfccasy.covad.net)`
`18:43.56`	`Stan__`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: hm dunno..nerver tried it`
`18:44.04`	`Amadeo`	`NeoTron: Just ignore me`
`18:44.41`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`gah, the timestamp hanging out in the middle of the chatframe is annoying the living daylights outta me`
`18:44.43`	`Coruss`	`Saladin: just a sec`
`18:44.59`	`NeoTron`	`just trying to figure out how to make the felguard spec viable`
`18:45.13`	`NeoTron`	`because I need a demo spec for leotheras tanking`
`18:45.17`	`*** join/#wowace buchkurish (n=alien@65.100.61.206)`
`18:45.44`	`NeoTron`	`but I don't want to continuously respec or use a gimp demo spec (demo spec without felguard is rahter crap for soloing, more so than any other spec)`
`18:46.04`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Stan__: it's easy, just disable and reenable the timestamp for that frame xD`
`18:46.08`	`Saladin`	`Coruss: k`
`18:46.11`	`durcyn`	`felguard? what the hell are you, a closet Hunter?`
`18:46.12`	`Stan__`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: lol ok`
`18:46.16`	`Coruss`	`Saladin: should be an option called 'Display Lua Errors'`
`18:46.30`	`NeoTron`	`durcyn: leotheras tank`
`18:46.39`	`NeoTron`	`if I had my choice I'd be destruction`
`18:46.43`	`durcyn`	`NeoTron: soo...felhunter MD`
`18:46.52`	`Coruss`	`get a prot pally to do it ^^`
`18:46.56`	`Amadeo`	`NeoTron: Why don't you have a choice?`
`18:47.02`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com)`
`18:47.02`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`18:47.02`	`NeoTron`	`again I don't want a completely crap spec for non-raiding nor od I want to respec every week`
`18:47.04`	`Amadeo`	`Coruss: I'm leveling a Prot Pally :P`
`18:47.14`	`durcyn`	`23/38 is fine if you really need MD`
`18:47.18`	`durcyn`	`otherwise gear+paladin wtf?`
`18:47.28`	`Coruss`	`Amadeo: I was a prot pally from 40 -> 66, outland stinks for AE prot grinding`
`18:47.46`	`Amadeo`	`Coruss: But..I have an ace up my sleeve...Mage partner!`
`18:47.56`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=4psalhuhgfm6c&s=11840-12459 http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=4psalhuhgfm6c&s=2037-2613 http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=4psalhuhgfm6c&s=10762-11272`
`18:47.57`	`Coruss`	`aha!`
`18:47.59`	`Kaelten`	`ok anyone else have any oddities to report about files/svn/autodoc?`
`18:48.01`	`Amadeo`	`But at level 14, I can't do much yet`
`18:48.04`	`NeoTron`	`it's not a crap spec in a lot of the fights`
`18:48.06`	`Amadeo`	`I can't keep any aggro :P`
`18:48.17`	`Amadeo`	`Well, I just hit 14...I think I have an aggro move now`
`18:48.20`	`Coruss`	`lol ya... to be honest, you'll want to go ret until 40`
`18:48.27`	`NeoTron`	`and you want soul link`
`18:48.27`	`Coruss`	`or holy, and keep the mage alive`
`18:48.32`	`Amadeo`	`never!`
`18:48.37`	`Silviu-`	`NeoTron what spec u use as tank ?`
`18:48.39`	`NeoTron`	`there's no reason to go that deep into demo just for 70 spell resistance`
`18:48.49`	`Coruss`	`SoC > prot until you get reckoning and holy shield`
`18:48.58`	`Saladin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:49.09`	`Kaelten`	`renchap: I've switched svn.wowace.com to run off of the home servers`
`18:49.13`	`Saladin`	`ok that didnt work either :S`
`18:49.16`	`NeoTron`	`Silviu-: check the stats above and go to armory. I'm Aminai`
`18:49.17`	`Kaelten`	`just wanted to let you know that it was done`
`18:49.17`	`Coruss`	`Saladin: lol`
`18:49.25`	`Silviu-`	`NeoTron our wl tank just stays affliction`
`18:49.29`	`NeoTron`	`mind you it's NOT an optimal tank spec but it works fine`
`18:49.36`	`Saladin`	`s`
`18:49.42`	`Silviu-`	At Leothras and Kael`Thalas
`18:49.45`	`Coruss`	`Amadeo: SoC + Verigan's Fist is uber from 20-30, put crusader and it'll last till 35`
`18:49.46`	`*** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F55D17.versanet.de)`
`18:49.48`	`NeoTron`	`I've taken a 10k, 13k and 15k hits from leo`
`18:49.56`	`NeoTron`	`in a total of 4 seconds`
`18:49.59`	`Silviu-`	`Just stick a little more fire resi and u are ok`
`18:50.01`	`Coruss`	`Saladin: it wouldn't fix it, but does bugsack actually give you an error now?`
`18:50.05`	`NeoTron`	`soul link is pretty handy to lower the chance of instagibbing`
`18:50.05`	`Silviu-`	`Let me ask him how much he have`
`18:50.07`	`Mudkips`	`ya just stack FR dude`
`18:50.07`	`Silviu-`	`1 sec :)`
`18:50.13`	`Saladin`	`Coruss: no, I get the same error message`
`18:50.16`	`Mudkips`	`even our epic warlock still gets killed by leo`
`18:50.17`	`*** join/#wowace buchkurish (n=alien@65.100.61.206)`
`18:50.20`	`NeoTron`	`Why do you think FR is the reason? Soul link is`
`18:50.29`	`Mudkips`	`plus he respecs`
`18:50.29`	`NeoTron`	`I have, buffed, over 365 FR`
`18:50.35`	`Mudkips`	`and over 14k hp`
`18:50.37`	`durcyn`	`but do you have 730 FR`
`18:50.39`	`NeoTron`	`and I think I had 17k hp or so`
`18:50.47`	`jme`	`durcyn: :O`
`18:51.02`	`Mudkips`	`17k O_o lolwut`
`18:51.06`	`jme`	`heh, how much res do you have to have before the tooltip says you have anything better than poor res against a level 70?`
`18:51.24`	`NeoTron`	`probably 16.8 or so`
`18:51.25`	`Silviu-`	`NeoTron 365 he have`
`18:51.29`	`Silviu-`	`buffed with aura`
`18:51.30`	`NeoTron`	`flasked + commanding shout + imp`
`18:51.35`	`Silviu-`	`14k hp`
`18:51.41`	`Silviu-`	`and we kill Leo no probl`
`18:51.51`	`NeoTron`	`it's a bit of luck involved`
`18:51.52`	`Mudkips`	`we actually wiped on him last night`
`18:52.07`	`Silviu-`	And he don`t reskill every week
`18:52.09`	`Mudkips`	`the MT/raid leader didn't afk check`
`18:52.09`	`NeoTron`	`because you can take more than that amount of dmg in one hit and two subsequent unresisted hits can hit you for way more`
`18:52.12`	`Silviu-`	`Only affli and good so`
`18:52.20`	`NeoTron`	`but`
`18:52.28`	`NeoTron`	`we're not yet farming leo so we need any extra help we can get`
`18:52.30`	`jme`	`i fear that half our raid will still be in mostly blues and a few greens when we attempt HKM`
`18:52.50`	`NeoTron`	`we've only killed him once`
`18:52.59`	`Silviu-`	`oh ok`
`18:53.02`	`xb95`	`NeoTron: you one of them warlocks who tanks Leo's demon form? yeah. you guys tend to asplode if things go south any.`
`18:53.09`	`Coruss`	`Saladin: best advice I can give ya (not an lua coder myself) is to disable your addons one by one and keep testing it until the error goes away`
`18:53.09`	`Silviu-`	`We have ssc on farm status`
`18:53.13`	`Silviu-`	`now we focus on Kael`
`18:53.22`	`Mudkips`	`gl on him`
`18:53.25`	`Silviu-`	`Thx`
`18:53.28`	`Mudkips`	`fun fight`
`18:53.35`	`Silviu-`	`Fun ... bah`
`18:53.38`	`Mudkips`	`it is`
`18:53.42`	`Silviu-`	`Now atm at Solarian`
`18:53.43`	`Mudkips`	`very unique`
`18:53.46`	`Silviu-`	`after Kael ;)`
`18:53.50`	`Amadeo`	`does "cralexns" from the forums come here?`
`18:53.50`	`NeoTron`	`xb95: indeed`
`18:53.55`	`Mudkips`	`I only hate the trash before kael`
`18:54.01`	`NeoTron`	`primarily the last 15% is hard if I still have a pre-stack of debuffs..`
`18:54.02`	`Mudkips`	`that trash can burn in hell`
`18:54.02`	`Chaoslux`	`...365 fire resist?`
`18:54.03`	`Silviu-`	`Tell me about it ...`
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`18:54.18`	`Silviu-`	`NeoTron make a dps stop`
`18:54.23`	`Silviu-`	`till your stacks go away`
`18:54.23`	`Silviu-`	`;)`
`18:54.26`	`NeoTron`	`ah this one`
`18:54.27`	`Chaoslux`	`and here i thought 250 was amazingly high >.>`
`18:54.29`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=g4wlrmqadmk5i&a=14&dth=0&s=10399-11029`
`18:54.47`	`NeoTron`	`9380, 13400, 15075, 16750 <dead>`
`18:54.48`	`Saladin`	`Coruss: that wouldh ave me disable Ace2 and FuBar...`
`18:54.49`	`Silviu-`	`Chaoslux yes`
`18:55.01`	`xb95`	`yeah, have DPS stop until he transitions back until human form, just tank him, when your stacks are gone then tick him over`
`18:55.06`	`NeoTron`	`Silviu-: we go below 15 in demon form so we can dps further`
`18:55.30`	`NeoTron`	`tha extra 3-5% dmg is quite important`
`18:55.51`	`NeoTron`	`one trick we try to use is using a DI or alternatively suiciding`
`18:57.47`	`Coruss`	`Saladin: is fubar your only addon that uses ace2?`
`18:58.05`	`xb95`	`hmm, interesting NeoTron. sounds workable.`
`18:58.11`	`Saladin`	`Coruss: no but I tried clicking "Disable" and reload, but the next time, same error, only with fubar`
`18:58.29`	`NeoTron`	`problem is once he splits everyone in the raid goes primal and starts "omgdpsfoogogogog"`
`18:58.32`	`ccKep`	`[20:55:06] <NeoTron> Silviu-: we go below 15 in demon form so we can dps further <<< does he stay in demon form although he reaches 15% and just split up when he switches back to human?`
`18:58.32`	`NeoTron`	`and we wipe`
`18:58.39`	`NeoTron`	`because people chain pull aggro and crap`
`18:58.52`	`Coruss`	`Saladin: don't disable the addon that it mentions in the error, just go through all your addons one by one`
`18:58.54`	`NeoTron`	`ccKep: during his emote speech you can dps him`
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`18:59.01`	`NeoTron`	`if he does it in demon form but not if he does it in human form`
`18:59.12`	`ccKep`	`ah, never tried it`
`18:59.23`	`Silviu-`	`bah Solarian wipe wtf :/`
`18:59.24`	`ccKep`	`we always waited for the debuffs on our warlock to expire`
`18:59.28`	`NeoTron`	`can typically take down up to 1/3rd of his remaining health`
`18:59.37`	`Coruss`	`Saladin: it's unlikely that fubar itself is responsible for the error, it's probly some fubar plugin that's doing it`
`18:59.45`	`Mudkips`	`I wonder how the new Solarian will be like after patch`
`18:59.48`	`NeoTron`	`Silviu-: he's fun for you: last week we sucked it up on hydross for _3 hours_`
`18:59.58`	`NeoTron`	`this week we oneshot hydross... and then wipe twice on lurker`
`18:59.59`	`NeoTron`	`I mean wtf`
`19:00.06`	`Silviu-`	`Hehe`
`19:00.13`	`xb95`	`hahahah`
`19:00.18`	`Silviu-`	`Mudkips ? ha ?`
`19:00.22`	`Silviu-`	`They buff or nerf it`
`19:00.25`	`Mudkips`	`they are changing the whole fight`
`19:00.32`	`Silviu-`	`Lol`
`19:00.33`	`Mudkips`	`mechanics totally changed`
`19:00.38`	`NeoTron`	`they changed the arcane dmg bouncing debuff thing`
`19:00.57`	`NeoTron`	`so no longer do you need arcane tanks (or rather I think they didn't intend for ezmoding it with arane tanks)`
`19:01.06`	`NeoTron`	`but I haven' heard what the new version does?`
`19:01.18`	`Mudkips`	`it's not ezmode at all with arcane tanks`
`19:01.21`	`NeoTron`	`we're waiting to do solarian until the patch`
`19:01.25`	`Mudkips`	`still has hard for the raid healers`
`19:01.31`	`Mudkips`	`as*`
`19:01.32`	`NeoTron`	`Mudkips: ezmodier than if you didnt' have them`
`19:01.37`	`Mudkips`	`I guess`
`19:01.54`	`NeoTron`	`first of all you heal just 2 tanks, secondly they hav emuch better gear to manage it than the average raid member`
`19:02.03`	`NeoTron`	`of course they take a lot more damage overall`
`19:03.02`	`ccKep`	`defense stance helps a ton`
`19:03.50`	`ccKep`	`but well.. I hate solarian`
`19:03.59`	`ccKep`	`stupid buggy shitencounter`
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`19:04.43`	`Saladin`	`Coruss: will try it, thanks for the help`
`19:07.55`	`Coruss`	`Saladin: np, gl!`
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`19:12.36`	`Silviu-`	`lol noob drops`
`19:12.57`	`Silviu-`	`Warrior trinket and mail healing gloves`
`19:13.26`	`Qaarh`	`Hrm, I can use showtooltip in a macro to display whatever.. but can I get the current ammo in the ammo slot that way somehow?`
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`19:16.39`	`NeoTron`	`oh god`
`19:16.50`	`NeoTron`	`"The Death Knight class will be available for both alliance and horde players and it seems to work on the same mechanics as Jedi in SWG, you can create them once certain criteria are met. (First hero class of the game)"`
`19:17.02`	`NeoTron`	`I sure hope it doesn't work as jedi in SWG - most retarded system ever`
`19:17.05`	`NeoTron`	`heh`
`19:17.10`	`Josh_Borke`	`what was it in SWG?`
`19:17.28`	`NeoTron`	`randomly grind 5 professions to mastery out of however many they had`
`19:17.42`	`NeoTron`	`not sure if it was 5 exactly but you needed to grind X professions to master`
`19:17.46`	`NeoTron`	`and you had no idea which ones`
`19:17.49`	`CIA-22`	`03cryect * r45537 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Now tracks mana/energy/rage gained`
`19:17.57`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`You had to master 5 professions, and which 5 were secret and unique to your character`
`19:18.04`	`NeoTron`	`equivalent in wow would be level X classes to 70`
`19:18.06`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So basically you just had to sink an assload of time into the game shooting in the dark.`
`19:18.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`But it doesn't tell you which classes.`
`19:18.33`	`NeoTron`	`they later added some ways to get hints but.. it was really dumb`
`19:20.08`	`xb95`	`it was pretty bad :(`
`19:20.19`	`NeoTron`	`I really hope the expansions involves a less tedious 20-60 (40-60 especially) grind`
`19:20.39`	`NeoTron`	`when they changed the system it turns out I probably was just a single profession away`
`19:20.55`	`Amadeo`	`NeoTron: Where are you reading that about the Death Knight?`
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`19:21.02`	`Josh_Borke`	`mmo-champion.org`
`19:21.04`	`NeoTron`	`mmo-champion.com`
`19:21.06`	`kenlyric`	`all lies`
`19:21.06`	`Amadeo`	`hm`
`19:21.08`	`Josh_Borke`	`er, com`
`19:21.10`	`Amadeo`	`sounds fake`
`19:21.22`	`kenlyric`	`death knight is a ret pally. get used to it.`
`19:21.50`	`Boubouille`	`coughs not fake *cough`
`19:22.12`	`kenlyric`	`now I know it's fake`
`19:22.13`	`Amadeo`	`haha, notice how they're adding siege to the game?`
`19:22.17`	`Amadeo`	`they want to compete with Warhammer`
`19:22.24`	`xb95`	`I am sad that I will have to level AGAIN ... :(`
`19:22.36`	`Mudkips`	`death knight ret pally lulz`
`19:22.39`	`NeoTron`	`Amadeo: it HAS been planned for a long time`
`19:22.44`	`Mudkips`	`with crazy life sucking death knight heals`
`19:22.52`	`Amadeo`	`NeoTron: Just so happens to be around when Warhammer is coming out? :)`
`19:23.07`	`NeoTron`	`it might have been a motivation but it's certainly not a new idea`
`19:23.16`	`Amadeo`	`Well, it's a good move`
`19:23.18`	`ckknight`	`what should my desired yearly salary be, given my skills and experience?`
`19:23.22`	`Mudkips`	`wow will lose some players to warhammer`
`19:23.24`	`kergoth`	`Cryect: ooh, neat. can you view energy/mana/rage in an over time graph like the other info? :)`
`19:23.28`	`Mudkips`	`but warhammer will never offer what WoW is`
`19:23.32`	`Mudkips`	`they'll go back eventually`
`19:23.33`	`kenlyric`	`well, the first expansion was around the time warhammer was supposed to be coming out, too.`
`19:23.33`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: link me your resume`
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`19:23.56`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`19:23.57`	`kenlyric`	`warhammer keeps on slippin' slippin' slippin' into the future.`
`19:24.27`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`19:24.27`	`Amadeo`	`I'm still looking forward to it, but if WoW pulls out all the stops to compete..who knows`
`19:24.27`	`NeoTron`	`most mmo's look nice on paper`
`19:24.29`	`NeoTron`	`few are nice in reality`
`19:24.34`	`Amadeo`	`That's not why I'm looking forward to it`
`19:24.43`	`Amadeo`	`Mainly because they did a good job with early DAoC, and they have some experience in MMO`
`19:24.55`	`Amadeo`	`made some mistakes, hopefully learned from them as they say they did`
`19:24.56`	`Boubouille`	`DAoC sucked.`
`19:25.02`	`Amadeo`	`DAoC was a great game`
`19:25.09`	`Boubouille`	`why are you playing WoW then ?`
`19:25.09`	`Boubouille`	`^^`
`19:25.17`	`Amadeo`	`Did you read what I said?`
`19:25.24`	`xb95`	`DAoC was lots of fun.`
`19:25.24`	`Boubouille`	`no, I'm french, I'm just annoying`
`19:25.30`	`Amadeo`	`Oh, ok`
`19:25.33`	`NeoTron`	`so question is once you unlock this deathknight thing and then play 4 months to level him to 80... what role would he fill that isn't already fill? will it be inheritedly better?`
`19:25.35`	`Amadeo`	`all MMOGs die in time`
`19:25.57`	`Amadeo`	`NeoTron: A new class will be super powerful, that's how they get people to pay and play`
`19:26.01`	`Amadeo`	`then later on they'll nerf it`
`19:26.04`	`Boubouille`	`http://www.camelotaddict.com/Archives2007/2007/WTBlatest.JPG`
`19:26.11`	`Bejitt`	`http://catmas.com/images/2006/10/newspaper-filler.jpg lolcats never die~`
`19:26.12`	`NeoTron`	`the shaman / paladin crossover ppl leveled for a reason but another tank/dps class - isn't that just a warrior/ :P`
`19:26.40`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It's like a warrior, except their Mortal Strike is shadow damage, so armor doesn't mitigate it, and they get death coil and heals.`
`19:26.50`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`19:26.53`	`Amadeo`	`I wouldn't doubt it`
`19:26.55`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Also, if they kill someone, they can rez them as a pet for 1 minute`
`19:27.00`	`Amadeo`	`Blizzard is the king at copying abilities`
`19:27.03`	`Bejitt`	`and summon dreadsteed?`
`19:27.04`	`Cryect`	`Anyone know whats a good addon for helping to align your various frames?`
`19:27.06`	`Boubouille`	`Necromancer !`
`19:27.16`	`NeoTron`	`summon a paladin mount but with a black aura!`
`19:27.24`	`Boubouille`	`damn, it would be great to have a D2 Necromancer in WoW`
`19:27.26`	`kergoth`	`Cryect: Align or SnapToGrid`
`19:27.34`	`Boubouille`	`40 ppl raid alone`
`19:27.35`	`Josh_Borke`	`use both`
`19:27.45`	`Josh_Borke`	`align for free form and snaptogrid to get together`
`19:27.49`	`Cryect`	`kergoth: no its just tracking souces at the moment`
`19:27.59`	`Mudkips`	`Antiarc`
`19:28.04`	`Amadeo`	`Wow, people actually use Align? haha`
`19:28.05`	`Mudkips`	`LOL`
`19:28.05`	`Cryect`	`thanks, I remembered there was something called align or something`
`19:28.15`	`NeoTron`	`don't get me wrong, if I unlocked deathknight I probably would play it.. I really hope the unlocking isn't some weird and mysterious thing that people randomly do though`
`19:28.55`	`Amadeo`	`Death Knight = end of all Paladins`
`19:28.56`	`kergoth`	`ah, cool`
`19:29.03`	`Amadeo`	`it's what they all have wanted to be since WoW came out`
`19:29.04`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`19:29.07`	`Bejitt`	`maybe they'll start letting you kil civilian, which would let you gain dark side points ....`
`19:29.10`	`Josh_Borke`	`i hope it's like jedi's where you can only die X number of times :-D`
`19:29.22`	`phyber`	`NeoTron: you have to /chicken in front of Illidan for 10 minutes.`
`19:29.25`	`Bejitt`	`s/kil civilian/kill civilians/`
`19:29.34`	`NeoTron`	`Josh_Borke: that's an even more retarded thing to have - I mean wtf?`
`19:29.39`	`NeoTron`	`you WILL die in an MMO`
`19:29.56`	`Mudkips`	`paladins definitely need an anti class`
`19:30.11`	`Mudkips`	`maybe I'll pvp again`
`19:30.15`	`Mudkips`	`i get no play on my druid`
`19:30.32`	`deltron`	`death knight would be soooo awesome :D`
`19:30.36`	`Josh_Borke`	`i just hope it's not restricted to raiding only`
`19:31.28`	`Amadeo`	`Death Knight makes me disappointed I'm working on a Paladin now :P`
`19:31.51`	`jme`	`it will be a while yet until the xpac though, so keep working on it`
`19:31.56`	`deltron`	`lol`
`19:32.17`	`jme`	`they're just announcing it.. it's not like it's going to be released next month ;)`
`19:32.25`	`deltron`	`you never know lol`
`19:32.28`	`Amadeo`	`I expect it'll be out when Warhammer is :P`
`19:32.31`	`Josh_Borke`	`i expect early-mid next year`
`19:32.40`	`jme`	`i hope for late next year`
`19:33.10`	`deltron`	`yeah`
`19:33.18`	`Amadeo`	`How long has TBC been out now?`
`19:33.29`	`jme`	`january 16th iirc`
`19:33.31`	`deltron`	`maybe they're doing death knight to compete with the badass classes that are in WAR`
`19:33.36`	`Amadeo`	`they want to do an expansion a year`
`19:33.37`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`7 months`
`19:33.40`	`Amadeo`	`so probably early next year`
`19:34.08`	`Mudkips`	`I just don't want to pay another 40-50$ for an expansion`
`19:34.08`	`Amadeo`	`As hyped up as this expansion was, I didn't care for it too much`
`19:34.19`	`Keias`	`You're still playing it, aren't you?`
`19:34.25`	`jme`	`is that why you don't even remember when it was released? :)`
`19:34.32`	`Amadeo`	`Actually, I cancelled my account for about 4 months`
`19:34.36`	`Amadeo`	`decided to come back and mess around`
`19:34.38`	`jme`	`ah`
`19:34.53`	`Mudkips`	`lol the guild would shit bricks if i quit`
`19:35.02`	`jme`	`:/`
`19:35.06`	`Mudkips`	`i got some gem patterns only attainable by drops in hyjal`
`19:35.12`	`jme`	`real life > wow`
`19:35.26`	`mikma`	`real wow > life`
`19:35.36`	`Amadeo`	`addons > wow`
`19:35.38`	`Mudkips`	`i pk irl`
`19:35.40`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`wow life > real ?`
`19:35.41`	`Mudkips`	`didn't you know?`
`19:35.53`	`jme`	`heh`
`19:37.51`	`jme`	`Account Created:`
`19:37.52`	`jme`	`December 11, 2006 10:33 AM PST`
`19:37.55`	`jme`	`:/`
`19:37.58`	`jme`	`<- nub`
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`19:39.18`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`Antiarc\|Work: ping`
`19:39.23`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Pong`
`19:39.54`	`Amadeo`	`the witch is dead`
`19:39.56`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`For viewing web sites on other browsers, this might work for you http://v04.browsershots.org/`
`19:40.05`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Thanks`
`19:40.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I just ended up downloading Safari for windows`
`19:40.23`	`Amadeo`	`eww!`
`19:40.32`	`Bejitt`	`omg dont touch me`
`19:40.39`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`nod I just came across that now, and figured you might be interested`
`19:40.40`	`Bejitt`	`wait, you cant ...`
`19:41.05`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I have very long arms.`
`19:41.20`	`Bejitt`	`o_O`
`19:41.30`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`<-- 6'10", arms to match. grin`
`19:41.37`	`jme`	`:O`
`19:41.42`	`Bejitt`	`arms? is that what they call it these days?`
`19:41.51`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`he's got long lots of thi-- er...`
`19:41.52`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`~flee`
`19:41.53`	`purl`	`ACTION runs away screaming`
`19:42.03`	`jme`	`~doom`
`19:42.04`	`purl`	`ACTION stalks jme, chanting doom on you, doom on you!`
`19:42.10`	`jme`	`bah`
`19:42.18`	`jme`	`should use the wow emote :P`
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`19:44.16`	`Amadeo`	`Vegeta!`
`19:44.26`	`Gngsk`	`someone should add a check for SendMailFrame:IsVisible() to AltClickToAddItem, tired of opening trade with random people around the mailbox`
`19:44.35`	`NeoTron`	`lol. in one WWS report our mage has the following distribution between spells: 83% dmg from scorch, 68% from fireball, 17% from ignite and 2% wand`
`19:44.53`	`NeoTron`	`adding up to 170%.. weird`
`19:45.04`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`that's a good mage.. :P`
`19:45.18`	`Amadeo`	`Is that what spell I should use on my PoM Pyro Mage?`
`19:45.21`	`Amadeo`	`just spam Scorch?`
`19:45.26`	`Amadeo`	`on PTR :P`
`19:45.29`	`NeoTron`	`heh something is broken for sure`
`19:45.50`	`NeoTron`	`it says he did 50k dmg total but scorch alone did 41k.. and it's on fathom-lord so he was spamming the totem`
`19:45.54`	`NeoTron`	`that's why scorch is so high`
`19:46.19`	`NeoTron`	`aha it counts spitfire totem as a pet`
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`19:50.09`	`Gngsk`	`!seen grennon`
`19:50.10`	`Diao`	`grennon!n=jdawg@user-38lm5go.cable.mindspring.com was last seen 43 day 12 hr 17 min 38 s ago on #wowace`
`19:50.22`	`Gngsk`	`~seen grennon`
`19:50.25`	`purl`	`grennon <n=jdawg@user-38lm5go.cable.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 32d 15h 3m 19s ago, saying: 'so if I gem something and dont get the bonus, it is still added to the pawn value'.`
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`19:53.40`	`Cerium`	`Anyone know a addon that does like we can move the minimap?`
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`19:54.16`	`ckknight`	`simpleMinimap`
`19:54.31`	`Cerium`	`Like this one: http://gallery.filefront.com/Qatare//633082/`
`19:54.33`	`Josh_Borke`	`bongos`
`19:54.42`	`Tuller`	`what? :P`
`19:54.50`	`Cerium`	`Anyone know a addon that does like we can move the minimap?`
`19:54.52`	`Cerium`	`Like this one: http://gallery.filefront.com/Qatare//633082/`
`19:54.56`	`Amadeo`	`there's some new Bongos Minimap addon, but it's not Tuller's`
`19:55.08`	`Tuller`	`that does a square minimap, mine is just round`
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`19:55.15`	`Amadeo`	`I see`
`19:55.19`	`Amadeo`	`I didn't even know yours had one :P`
`19:55.21`	`Tuller`	`simpleminimap has options to move frames that are parented to the minimap though`
`19:55.59`	`yacoob`	`what is the 'name of the target' in macros? %t?`
`19:56.08`	`ckknight`	`someone sent me a dollar`
`19:56.11`	`ckknight`	`a whole one`
`19:56.23`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`19:56.25`	`Tuller`	`not an internet dollar?`
`19:57.00`	`Amadeo`	`I had a donation page once...not because I was doing anything for anyone, but just to have one`
`19:57.03`	`Amadeo`	`I made 2 cents!`
`19:57.34`	`Cerium`	`Man, you're rich!`
`19:57.48`	`Amadeo`	`I was going to get a Macintop`
`19:58.01`	`ckknight`	`well, technically, it is an internet dollar, Tuller`
`19:58.18`	`ckknight`	`from a Swede, no less`
`19:58.46`	`yacoob`	`why won't '/w %t blah' work?`
`19:59.01`	`yacoob`	`(No player named %t is currently playing)`
`19:59.12`	`MoonWolf`	`Its true , the voices in my head told me so, isn't that right tedy.`
`19:59.16`	`MoonWolf`	`HAIL SATAN`
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`20:00.15`	`durcyn`	`Gngsk: uh, ACTAI is meant to work with trades too`
`20:00.47`	`Bejitt`	`http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=iphone who hasnt seen =o`
`20:00.57`	`[dRaCo]`	`amadeo: if that question was serious: start with 5 scorches, then 8 fireballs, 1 scorch, repeat`
`20:01.02`	`kenlyric`	`everyone in the world.`
`20:01.08`	`kenlyric`	`but it's always worth watching.`
`20:01.09`	`Amadeo`	`[dRaCo]: I mean in PvP :)`
`20:01.16`	`Amadeo`	`they should blend all iPhones`
`20:01.23`	`kenlyric`	`screw the iphone, I want that blender`
`20:01.35`	`art3mis`	`hehe thats what i was thinking`
`20:01.36`	`kenlyric`	`could dispose of bodies with that thing.`
`20:01.40`	`art3mis`	`thats an amazing blender`
`20:01.44`	`Bejitt`	`i like how it turns into iSmoke`
`20:01.49`	`kenlyric`	`I bet it can powder teeth`
`20:01.49`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`yacoob: %t isn't interpolated for commands`
`20:02.03`	`kenlyric`	`don't breath that iSmoke`
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`20:02.44`	`yacoob`	`Antiarc\|Work, good, how do I achieve that then? /script SendChatMessage... ?`
`20:03.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`yacoob: Yes, or a target tell mod`
`20:03.06`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Prat has ont`
`20:03.07`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`one*`
`20:03.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:03.16`	`yacoob`	`good :)`
`20:03.34`	`kenlyric`	`this guy needs to be the new Mr Wizard`
`20:03.37`	`Amadeo`	`iSmoke`
`20:03.38`	`Amadeo`	`hahahaha`
`20:03.45`	`[dRaCo]`	`Amadeo: ice lance, fire blast, pyro, blast wave, dragon's breath and pray the guy's dead.`
`20:03.55`	`jme`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=442924613&sid=1`
`20:04.02`	`rubik`	`soo.. does anyone host their own WWS reports (the detailed kind, not the ones the wws client generates for you to host)?`
`20:04.08`	`Amadeo`	`[dRaCo]: That sounds like it takes too long`
`20:04.17`	`kenlyric`	`bic lighters are awesome.`
`20:04.18`	`[dRaCo]`	`instants, all of them.`
`20:04.35`	`Amadeo`	`why ice lance?`
`20:04.36`	`[dRaCo]`	`takes 6 seconds`
`20:04.43`	`[dRaCo]`	`grounding totem`
`20:04.49`	`Amadeo`	`hah`
`20:05.14`	`Amadeo`	`that won't kill anyone on PTR though`
`20:05.46`	`[dRaCo]`	`nope, but in arena matches you're not the only one`
`20:05.57`	`Amadeo`	`I tried Frost, but I suck too much`
`20:06.02`	`Amadeo`	`everytime I try to sit and cast I get owned`
`20:06.13`	`ckknight`	`http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8204/11283wowscrnshot0719072fg4.jpg`
`20:06.13`	`CIA-22`	`03saroz * r45538 10PerfectTargets/Core.lua: PerfectTargets: Still leaks memory like a bitch, but a little less now`
`20:06.26`	`[dRaCo]`	`since you're not deep fire as pyro mage, swap dragon's breath for frost nova, run, scorch`
`20:06.30`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`20:06.31`	`yacoob`	`hm, /tt not working in macro... let's try the other one`
`20:06.52`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: sigh, lol`
`20:07.08`	`Amadeo`	`[dRaCo]: Actually, I picked some spec off the Mage forum, it's got like 40 in Arcane and then down to blast wave in Fire`
`20:07.24`	`jme`	`ckknight: :P`
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`20:10.56`	`deltron`	`I rolled with a 40 arcane build, it was interesting`
`20:11.18`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`enhancement shammy nuking the wrong target, shadowpriest refusing to fear, pom/pyro mage and pvp specced healer...gotta love pugs`
`20:11.42`	`Cerium`	`Omfg, im updating my addons etc... and now wow crash everytime i enter the server.`
`20:11.57`	`Cerium`	`brb:P`
`20:11.57`	`deltron`	`lol`
`20:12.32`	`Coruss`	`ckknight: lol`
`20:13.12`	`NeoTron`	`ckknight: so am I the only one that thinks that the stone just below it that the dude is standing on is looking like an ass?`
`20:13.16`	`NeoTron`	`"in action"...`
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`20:13.26`	`jme`	`NeoTron: refer to the thread i posted`
`20:13.35`	`ckknight`	`lol, NeoTron`
`20:13.36`	`jme`	`NeoTron: someone later on posts another version of that`
`20:14.10`	`jme`	`saying "what everyone has obviously missed" or something`
`20:16.03`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ckknight: about cowtip...`
`20:16.18`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`any idea why it shows auldlangsyne notes for guildies, but not friends?`
`20:16.29`	`Cerium`	`yay, wow works now.. clearfont fucked it up...`
`20:16.37`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ftw`
`20:16.39`	`jme`	`Cerium: are you using clearfont2?`
`20:16.47`	`Cerium`	`Thanks for the Simpleminimap addon:)`
`20:16.51`	`Cerium`	`UsedP:`
`20:17.24`	`Cerium`	`clearfont2-clearfont-2-r39590`
`20:18.00`	`jme`	`:/`
`20:18.02`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`how can I add more fonts for prat to use?`
`20:18.06`	`jme`	`later`
`20:18.06`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`- if possible`
`20:18.18`	`ckknight`	`http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfgwowscrnshot0719072mf4.gif`
`20:18.31`	`Kemayo`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: Are you doing something in CowTip to make it display these notes, or are you relying on ALS's built-in stuff?`
`20:19.19`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Kemayo: no, haven't done anything to cowtip exept changing colours and such`
`20:19.58`	`Bejitt`	`hey Kaelten, i figured out what caused that Library category`
`20:19.59`	`Cerium`	`haha, nice pic!`
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`20:21.13`	`Bejitt`	`you (or whoever) didnt run SVNBot back through to fix the TOC_Data of those libs ... which havent been updated since the wiki reboot`
`20:21.42`	`Speeddymon`	`anyone know when a get is called for an AceOptions table?`
`20:22.01`	`Speeddymon`	`is it every tick, or only when something has changed, or something else?`
`20:22.30`	`Kemayo`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: In that case I'm not sure why it's showing for guild and not for friends. I'll test it out tonight.`
`20:23.39`	`ckknight`	`Speeddymon: when you potentially change something (by clicking, etc.)`
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`20:24.43`	`Speeddymon`	`dang, ok then, thx`
`20:25.44`	`Kaelten`	`Bejitt: ?`
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`20:28.00`	`Bejitt`	`that Category:Library`
`20:28.21`	`Bejitt`	`that shouldnt have existed, doesnt anymore ;)`
`20:31.47`	`Speeddymon`	`kael: do u still need my addons directory?`
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`20:36.57`	`Tuller`	`so, someone should parse the armory data, then stick it in an inspect/talent viewer window`
`20:38.07`	`MoonWolf`	`example of purl in actin`
`20:38.13`	`MoonWolf`	`s/actin/action/`
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`20:43.34`	`art3mis`	`purl is amazing!`
`20:43.48`	`art3mis`	`its like having an autistic kid around`
`20:44.02`	`art3mis`	`when anti and ckk arent ;)`
`20:44.29`	`ckknight`	`~whalestab art3mis`
`20:44.30`	`purl`	`ACTION stabs art3mis with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery`
`20:44.43`	`art3mis`	`you cannot tell me you ARENT autstic ckk`
`20:44.49`	`ckknight`	`I'm not`
`20:44.54`	`art3mis`	`EVERYONE who programs is a little autistic`
`20:45.18`	`ckknight`	`...no`
`20:45.18`	`art3mis`	`ditto for most computer technicians`
`20:45.18`	`ckknight`	`that's not true`
`20:45.18`	`Chompers`	`what makes you say that art3mis?`
`20:45.18`	`art3mis`	`do you tap your foot/bounce your leg when bored?`
`20:45.18`	`durcyn`	`you certainly seem to be somehow addled, artemis.`
`20:45.25`	`ckknight`	`art3mis: sometimes, not always`
`20:45.35`	`art3mis`	`thats a trait of minor autisism`
`20:45.50`	`art3mis`	`im not saying yer a full fledged rainman by any extent`
`20:46.18`	`art3mis`	`but there have been a few studies about minor autisism in most mathand computer related type people`
`20:46.30`	`art3mis`	`and the most common trait is the need bouncing`
`20:46.33`	`art3mis`	`err knee`
`20:46.49`	`art3mis`	`so nyah`
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`20:47.08`	`art3mis`	`i do it often as well, as a clarrification autisticpeople are awesome`
`20:47.13`	`Megalon`	`isn't it more.. autistic => technical interest, than the other way round`
`20:47.56`	`art3mis`	`megalon to a degree yes, there is the apptitude that leads to it but because of its nature the technical portions of it aremore readily learned and retained in almost fluid ease`
`20:48.09`	`Chompers`	`i imagine daily quests are quite awesome for an autistic person`
`20:48.33`	`art3mis`	`heh then again some autistic people enjoy the mechanics of self closing doors ;P`
`20:48.45`	`durcyn`	`me, i just lick windows.`
`20:48.57`	`art3mis`	`we had a kid in my high school that was a walking calculator`
`20:49.16`	`Speeddymon`	`hey i enjoy the mechanics of self closing doors`
`20:49.20`	`art3mis`	`but every lunch he'd take his pbj and gosit in the quad opening the door and watching it close as he ate his sammiches`
`20:49.30`	`art3mis`	`thts all he did when he wasnt in class`
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`20:50.00`	`art3mis`	`the bell would ring he'd wander off as though he hadnt spent 1 hour doing this`
`20:50.14`	`art3mis`	`and somehow he'd always finish his last bite right before the bell went off`
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`20:50.40`	`art3mis`	`the quad was where we all skated and smoked during lunch so we saw him quite often`
`20:50.51`	`Chompers`	`probably mentally counting the time`
`20:51.25`	`art3mis`	`in prime roots im betting`
`20:51.51`	`Chompers`	`haw :P`
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`20:56.34`	`CIA-22`	`03saroz * r45539 10PerfectTargets/Core.lua: PerfectTargets: Fixes`
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`20:59.06`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`Anyone here mind looking over some table/event code for me that doesn't seem to quite work (or maybe im spazzy)`
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`21:00.02`	`NeoTron`	`Imm. 5% crit and intensity OR instant corruption + imp life tap (felguard build).`
`21:00.09`	`NeoTron`	`that's the question`
`21:00.29`	`NeoTron`	`hmm`
`21:00.48`	`Killmore`	`listen to your hearth!`
`21:01.09`	`NeoTron`	`I'm no paladin!`
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`21:10.03`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I fucking hate Armory >.<`
`21:10.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`great concept, but shitty execution of it`
`21:10.11`	`deltron`	`lol`
`21:10.52`	`Amadeo`	`all that flash stuff sucks`
`21:11.00`	`Amadeo`	`AJAX< whatever it is`
`21:11.14`	`Kaelten`	`actually the armory is pretty cool`
`21:11.31`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it's so fucking bloted with fancypants stuff it's not even funny`
`21:11.37`	`Amadeo`	`I'm not sure why Blizzard wants to make their pages use up so much bandwidth`
`21:11.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`not to mention it takes a millenia to load`
`21:12.20`	`Amadeo`	`They could do a better job by making them fast and clean`
`21:12.31`	`Amadeo`	`probably save a lot of money and work, too`
`21:12.54`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`exactly my point`
`21:13.19`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`sure, it looks fancy...but it's so bloated I want to kill every blizz webmaster/developer there is`
`21:13.23`	`Amadeo`	`Not to mention, Armory won't work with 3rd party Firefox builds unless you change the userid to "Firefox" instead of Bon Echo`
`21:13.32`	`Amadeo`	`er, useragent`
`21:14.42`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah, my computer isn't new by any means, but I'd like to have a resource that I can use while playing - without slowing down WoW if I leave my browser open :P`
`21:15.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yeah`
`21:15.56`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it shouldn't take 10min to be able to browse someone's gear when you're i.e. considering a guild app`
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`21:17.26`	`Amadeo`	`Oh well, could be worse`
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`21:17.55`	`Coruss`	`AJAX = asynchronous javascript and xml, it's a way to update pages without doing a full page refresh, it actually saves bandwidth`
`21:18.09`	`Amadeo`	`not CPU :P`
`21:18.13`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`when randomass people can do it, blizz with their budget should also be able to make a decent solution for armory`
`21:18.16`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`Can someone please check over http://ace.pastey.net/71701 for me? Im probably doing something horribly wrong (it's table code that just eludes me)`
`21:18.27`	`Coruss`	`true, the big slowdown/wait with armory is the database reads`
`21:18.44`	`Amadeo`	`Also, why are all AJAX pages flashy?`
`21:18.49`	`Amadeo`	`can't they tone it down a bit? haha`
`21:18.59`	`Coruss`	`lol, it's just javascript`
`21:19.07`	`Megalon`	`it's web2.0!`
`21:19.16`	`Amadeo`	`I don't like it`
`21:19.20`	`Coruss`	`the 'loading' thing is so you know it's working when it does the behind-the-scenes postback, gets the new data, and refreshes the page`
`21:19.21`	`Megalon`	`it has to be flashy`
`21:19.29`	`Coruss`	`flash is evil`
`21:19.34`	`Coruss`	`I'd rather have something I can link`
`21:19.34`	`Amadeo`	`Just like the new Yahoo and Hotmail suck`
`21:19.36`	`Kaelten`	`flashy not flash`
`21:19.37`	`Amadeo`	`It must be AJAX also`
`21:19.50`	`Kaelten`	`ajax is a great tool`
`21:19.51`	`Coruss`	`AJAX is not responsible for the 'flashyness'`
`21:19.59`	`Coruss`	`AJAX is a buzzword`
`21:20.04`	`Amadeo`	`Makes me think of cleaning my house`
`21:20.13`	`Coruss`	`all it does is allow the browser to postback without having to reload the hole bloody page`
`21:20.22`	`Coruss`	`it doesn't do anything else`
`21:20.39`	`Coruss`	`you need to blame someone? blame blizz's webmasters and their fancy javascript rendering`
`21:20.46`	`Coruss`	`that's what's 'flashy'`
`21:20.48`	`yacoob`	`blame Canada!`
`21:20.53`	`Kaelten`	`they actually use xml and xslt for the rendering`
`21:21.02`	`Coruss`	`eeewww`
`21:21.08`	`yacoob`	`XHTML, you mean? 8)`
`21:21.13`	`Megalon`	`blame the x in xlst`
`21:21.13`	`deltron`	`ajax done right is either gmail or roundcube webmail`
`21:21.15`	`Kaelten`	`nope`
`21:21.16`	`Kaelten`	`xml`
`21:21.17`	`Coruss`	`XHTML != xslt`
`21:21.27`	`Amadeo`	`gmail uses ajax?`
`21:21.30`	`Kaelten`	`yep`
`21:21.32`	`yacoob`	`Amadeo, a lot.`
`21:21.33`	`deltron`	`yep`
`21:21.39`	`Amadeo`	`See, that's good ajax!`
`21:21.39`	`yacoob`	`disable javascript and watch gmail cripple`
`21:21.40`	`CIA-22`	`03toadkiller * r45540 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 4 dirs):`
`21:21.40`	`CIA-22`	`PeriodicTable-3.0:`
`21:21.40`	`CIA-22`	`- Consumable.Recovery.Stone.Mana.Other`
`21:21.40`	`CIA-22`	`- various buff foods`
`21:21.41`	`Kaelten`	`shit ton of ajax requests actually`
`21:21.41`	`CIA-22`	`- Ashes of Al'ar (32458:310)`
`21:21.43`	`Amadeo`	`not all that flashy shit`
`21:21.43`	`CIA-22`	`- Nether Drake (30609:310)`
`21:21.44`	`RogueShadow`	`so does google maps`
`21:21.48`	`Coruss`	`XHTML is an enhancement to the html standard that makes html conform to xml standards`
`21:21.56`	`Kaelten`	`xml is xml`
`21:21.58`	`yacoob`	`Kaelten, now I'm interested - how does the browser renders it then?`
`21:22.07`	`deltron`	`you don't even know it's ajax :)`
`21:22.10`	`Coruss`	`using it's xslt engine`
`21:22.16`	`Coruss`	`which is browser specific`
`21:22.16`	`Amadeo`	`deltron: Yeah, that's how it should be!`
`21:22.28`	`yacoob`	`isn't that a bit... of overkill?`
`21:22.30`	`Kaelten`	`xlst is a type of stylesheet`
`21:22.33`	`deltron`	`armory tends to crash my box`
`21:22.34`	`Bejitt`	`so armory loads slow b/c of all the 'hidden' page requests? :o`
`21:22.38`	`Amadeo`	`Not like, hey...this is Web 9.0, let me show off our 90MB front page!`
`21:22.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Amadeo: agreed`
`21:22.46`	`Kaelten`	`Bejitt its graphic heavy`
`21:22.53`	`Kaelten`	`and has la shit ton of people spidering it for info`
`21:22.55`	`Coruss`	`armory loads slow because it's graphic heavy, and has to wait for db info`
`21:23.00`	`Bejitt`	`even with graphics loaded`
`21:23.02`	`Bejitt`	`ahhh yea`
`21:23.18`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`well`
`21:23.22`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`the whole interface is heavy`
`21:23.23`	`Kaelten`	`biggest problem is the amount of people spidering it`
`21:23.32`	`Coruss`	`whatever DB they're using isn't a heavy duty one, it's probly an OLAP DB that's refreshed every night on old hardware`
`21:23.46`	`Kaelten`	`I doubt its directly db related`
`21:23.53`	`Bejitt`	`i guess the page&xml helps a lot for that ;(`
`21:23.57`	`Mudkips`	`slow armory is slow`
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`21:24.16`	`deltron`	`mudkips meme is meme`
`21:24.25`	`yacoob`	`Armorycat is not amused. And sleepy.`
`21:24.48`	`Coruss`	`Kaelten: I'd assume it's some form of OLAP, used primarily for archiving and reporting on old data, which aren't the best for mass traffic`
`21:25.03`	`Kaelten`	`running YSlow on its main page`
`21:25.09`	`Coruss`	`Kaelten: but traffic is really the main problem`
`21:25.15`	`Kaelten`	`it has 14 JS files 9 Stylesheets and 142 CSS background images`
`21:25.26`	`Coruss`	`....`
`21:25.27`	`Keias`	`!ar 1805`
`21:25.27`	`ThraeBot`	`Keias: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life.`
`21:25.34`	`Coruss`	`that's insane`
`21:25.41`	`Coruss`	`and overkill`
`21:25.45`	`Keias`	`!ap 1805`
`21:25.45`	`ThraeBot`	`Keias: Arena points from a rating of 1805 is, 2v2: 537, 3v3: 613, 5v5: 767`
`21:25.46`	`yacoob`	`They've created a monster!`
`21:25.49`	`Keias`	`there we go`
`21:25.51`	`yacoob`	`but I've seen worse.`
`21:25.57`	`yacoob`	`65KB awk script.`
`21:26.02`	`Kaelten`	`ya`
`21:26.11`	`Kaelten`	`they don't use a CDN nor expires headers on the images`
`21:26.22`	`Kaelten`	`and their use of ETags is going to make caching difficult.`
`21:26.53`	`RaydenUni`	`http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/30/reader-ui-of-the-week-taeo/ <-- pretty nifty interface`
`21:26.55`	`Amadeo`	`Why would using a Canadian help?`
`21:27.04`	`Kaelten`	`CDN content deliverly network`
`21:27.08`	`Amadeo`	`Close!`
`21:27.19`	`yacoob`	`Amadeo, because Canadians are smart, they always help if applied! :)`
`21:27.25`	`Coruss`	`I'll have to take your word on that, I know the basics, but that's a little over even my head`
`21:27.27`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`Can someone please check over http://ace.pastey.net/71701 for me? Im probably doing something horribly wrong (it's table code that just eludes me). bugging me to fuck tbh`
`21:27.48`	`Kaelten`	`Coruss: CDN's are places that specialize in the fast delivery of media files basically.`
`21:27.58`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`that was quite nifty RaydenUni =)`
`21:28.12`	`Kaelten`	`normally a globally distributed network that can push several hundred GB/s of traffic`
`21:28.15`	`Coruss`	`Kaelten: similar to something like what valve did with steam, a content delivery system`
`21:28.28`	`Kaelten`	`could be using one of the major CDNs`
`21:28.31`	`Coruss`	`(specifically a the network of servers to distribute files)`
`21:28.40`	`Kaelten`	`yep`
`21:28.48`	`Kaelten`	`these people know their shit like no in house group could though`
`21:28.50`	`Kaelten`	`its expensive though`
`21:28.55`	`Amadeo`	`It's more fun to think you're saying "Major Canadians", regardless of what it really means ;)`
`21:28.58`	`Coruss`	`ooh ya, I remember now, M$ has to use that`
`21:29.09`	`Kaelten`	`so does Yahoo`
`21:29.34`	`Coruss`	`which is why when you ping www.microsoft.com you get redirected to lb1.www.ms.akadns.net`
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`21:29.44`	`Kaelten`	`lol, probably`
`21:29.47`	`yacoob`	`ohbrother: http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2007/jul/13/travelnews.norway`
`21:29.53`	`yacoob`	`this is scary`
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`21:30.15`	`Kaelten`	`as far as the expires headers if would just stop browsers from pining the server for each image just to find out it hasn't changed`
`21:30.27`	`RaydenUni`	`Dustwhisper\| do you know what he is using for buffs? in the bottomright corner`
`21:30.33`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`elkbuffbars`
`21:30.49`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it lets you create groups`
`21:30.51`	`Mudkips`	`Confab > Prat?`
`21:30.54`	`Kaelten`	`Etags is neat idea but annoying thing imho`
`21:30.56`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`and choose which buff and debuff belongs to what group`
`21:31.02`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`and then choose how it's displayed`
`21:31.05`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it's a very neat addon`
`21:31.07`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`i love it tbh`
`21:31.08`	`Kaelten`	`most of the high end sites diable them`
`21:31.10`	`Kaelten`	`disable*`
`21:31.18`	`RaydenUni`	`i might have to get it`
`21:31.20`	`Coruss`	`RaydenUni: that is a nice UI`
`21:31.39`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`I prefer my own UI though of course =D`
`21:31.42`	`Coruss`	`Kaelten: what exactly is an ETag`
`21:31.42`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`but i did fancy that ui`
`21:31.46`	`Coruss`	`<embed>?`
`21:31.51`	`RaydenUni`	`my laptop doesn't have the resolution to do that`
`21:31.56`	`Kaelten`	`it's meant to flag a file as unique`
`21:32.07`	`Coruss`	`aah`
`21:32.07`	`RaydenUni`	`elkbuff on the ace repos?`
`21:32.14`	`RaydenUni`	`it is`
`21:32.16`	`Kaelten`	`so you can have multiple files with similar names but can know whats what`
`21:32.17`	`Mudkips`	`WoWEcon is ace?`
`21:32.24`	`Kaelten`	`?`
`21:32.28`	`RaydenUni`	`no Mudkips`
`21:32.37`	`RaydenUni`	`uh, difference in ElkBuffBar and ElkBuffBars?`
`21:32.42`	`Kaelten`	`an s`
`21:32.45`	`weab`	`wowecon can't be ace. don't they charge money for some of its features?`
`21:33.04`	`Mudkips`	`just get ElkBuffBars`
`21:33.07`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`elkbuffbars has groups and sections`
`21:33.09`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it is better`
`21:33.12`	`deltron`	`what's wowecon?`
`21:33.16`	`Mudkips`	`you can change font`
`21:33.22`	`RaydenUni`	`deltron downloads AH prices on all items`
`21:33.27`	`RaydenUni`	`then displays it in your interface`
`21:33.31`	`Mudkips`	`"WoWEcon: Provides average AH prices for nearly all items."`
`21:33.32`	`RaydenUni`	`so you know what stuff sells for on teh AH`
`21:33.35`	`RaydenUni`	`very useful`
`21:33.38`	`RaydenUni`	`uses like 60mb of ram though`
`21:34.04`	`Mudkips`	`so it does what auctioneer does`
`21:34.05`	`Mudkips`	`but worse?`
`21:34.15`	`RaydenUni`	`is wowecon the one that requires you to run wow from it's executable?`
`21:34.23`	`weab`	`yes`
`21:34.29`	`Mudkips`	`no thanks`
`21:34.34`	`durcyn`	`keylogger.`
`21:34.35`	`Kody-`	`it does more than auctioneer`
`21:34.47`	`weab`	`it does and it doesn't`
`21:34.48`	`RaydenUni`	`does auctioneer require you to visit the AH to get prices?`
`21:34.58`	`Kody-`	`I've used it for 5 months now and haven't been keylogged either :P`
`21:34.59`	`Mudkips`	`well yeah if you want recent scans`
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`21:35.15`	`RaydenUni`	`it's just annoying to have to run a seperate executable`
`21:35.29`	`Kody-`	`you don't have to`
`21:35.33`	`weab`	`you only have to run it to update your local database`
`21:35.36`	`Kody-`	`that's just where the data is submitted/downloaded`
`21:35.43`	`deltron`	`RaydenUni: isn't that the same thing that auctioneer does?`
`21:35.44`	`Kody-`	`it's no different from running wowace updater to get updated addons`
`21:35.52`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2887/wowscrnshot072507163751dd1.jpg and http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4291/wowscrnshot072707001348gm7.jpg`
`21:35.54`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`is my UI now`
`21:35.57`	`vithos`	`i don't mind running a seperate executable, what i do mind is how limited wowecon's database actually is for my realm`
`21:35.58`	`weab`	`and it's shared info from everyone's scans, not just yours`
`21:36.01`	`deltron`	`or this is third party?`
`21:36.02`	`deltron`	`hmm`
`21:36.02`	`Mudkips`	`so the average price is from an online database?`
`21:36.03`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`KTM/Recount is macroed when needed`
`21:36.05`	`RaydenUni`	`deltron i've never used auctioneer. wowecon gets its prices off a server`
`21:36.09`	`Mudkips`	`is it filter by realm? and faction?`
`21:36.14`	`weab`	`Mudkips: yes`
`21:36.15`	`deltron`	`my auctioneer database is over a year old heh`
`21:36.20`	`RaydenUni`	`price is by realm i believe`
`21:36.22`	`Kody-`	`Yeah you can download specific realm data`
`21:36.26`	`Kody-`	`And filter it that way`
`21:36.37`	`deltron`	`hmm`
`21:36.46`	`deltron`	`interesting`
`21:36.51`	`Mudkips`	`^`
`21:36.51`	`deltron`	`I'd not pay $3.33/mo`
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`21:37.05`	`weab`	`you dont have to pay for just that functionality`
`21:37.07`	`Kody-`	`Yeah the free features are decent enough to not pay`
`21:37.08`	`RaydenUni`	`i think mine must have old data`
`21:37.14`	`RaydenUni`	`i haven't run the exe in along while`
`21:37.23`	`Kody-`	`But yeah, be careful how many servers you download data for`
`21:37.27`	`deltron`	`no data on my server`
`21:37.29`	`Mudkips`	`well yeah that's why I use auctioneer`
`21:37.30`	`weab`	`if you pay for it you can sync your ah data with a website, get email alerts when items go up on the ah you want, etc`
`21:37.42`	`Kody-`	`I decided to download every server's data for the curse auction reports and ended up using like 80mb of memory`
`21:37.42`	`Mudkips`	`I scan everyday becase prices fluctuate all the time`
`21:37.51`	`Kaelten`	`Kody-: thats nuts`
`21:38.06`	`Kaelten`	`how many servers is that?`
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`21:38.09`	`*** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com)`
`21:38.12`	`Kody-`	`over 100`
`21:38.12`	`*** join/#wowace jme (i=webfreak@fallingsnow.net)`
`21:38.14`	`RaydenUni`	`http://www.wowecon.com/`
`21:38.25`	`deltron`	`they are taking a lot of pricing from thott/alla also`
`21:38.35`	`deltron`	`http://www.wowecon.com/?l=eJxLtDKyqi62MrdSik9MLsnMz1OyLrYyNLVSKs8vj88sSc2NT0ktSczMAQtbWik5AAGGVKKVIcgQQ0MkbZkpIC1Ac01MzIxMLS2UrGtrAazMIwA%3D`
`21:38.44`	`Kaelten`	`hrm I suppose that kci would en up using about 40MB per 100 servers in memory`
`21:38.44`	`jme`	`wow, that's worse than ebay urls`
`21:39.01`	`jme`	`deltron: http://rialliance.net/test.html`
`21:39.17`	`deltron`	`jme: lmao`
`21:39.39`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`oOoooh jme!`
`21:40.10`	`jme`	`:)`
`21:40.15`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`http://ace.pastey.net/71701 Someone tell me why my tables dont have the data im expecting =D? Well it's not printing out any of the data i believe it should have`
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`21:40.39`	`RaydenUni`	`dont click that`
`21:40.43`	`deltron`	`lol`
`21:40.45`	`RaydenUni`	`the rialliance`
`21:40.53`	`deltron`	`I'm posting it in many many channels`
`21:40.54`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`rickroll rocks`
`21:40.55`	`RaydenUni`	`damnit`
`21:40.58`	`RaydenUni`	`why did you do that?`
`21:41.04`	`Coruss`	`lmAO`
`21:41.08`	`Coruss`	`*caps`
`21:41.08`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`i have the rickroll bookmarked anyways =)`
`21:41.11`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`i listen to it atleast once a day`
`21:41.17`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it's my "Get jiggy with it" song =D`
`21:41.17`	`RaydenUni`	`this one won't close though`
`21:41.20`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`for some reason CraftsList 2 won't update with my new recipies...what to do?`
`21:41.31`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`won't close ?`
`21:41.32`	`jme`	`deltron: mwahahaha`
`21:41.37`	`jme`	`Dustwhisper\|: haha`
`21:41.39`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it closed just fine ?`
`21:41.48`	`Kaelten`	`Coruss: ya, I've done some crazy research trying to figure out why curse's pages are so slow to load`
`21:41.50`	`Coruss`	`it's funny I remember when that song was popular and on the readio`
`21:41.51`	`RaydenUni`	`every time i click on something it has a text popup`
`21:42.02`	`jme`	`RaydenUni: keep clicking ok on the popups :)`
`21:42.04`	`deltron`	`chocolate rain is the new rickroll`
`21:42.04`	`RaydenUni`	`like its a virus`
`21:42.05`	`Mudkips`	`lol`
`21:42.06`	`jme`	`i didn't write this btw`
`21:42.12`	`Mudkips`	`alt f4`
`21:42.13`	`RaydenUni`	`i go through them all and then it does it again`
`21:42.16`	`jme`	`LOL`
`21:42.23`	`*** join/#wowace Parak (n=wat@user-387hhso.cable.mindspring.com)`
`21:42.24`	`deltron`	`ctrl + w`
`21:42.28`	`Fisker-`	`oh hi`
`21:42.31`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`as long as it's not the what what in the butt song`
`21:42.32`	`Coruss`	`lol there's a pile of javascript on the page`
`21:42.33`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`im all happy`
`21:42.36`	`jme`	`Fisker-: http://rialliance.net/test.html`
`21:42.54`	`RaydenUni`	`good grief`
`21:42.59`	`Fisker-`	`i like you`
`21:43.00`	`RaydenUni`	`i had to kill the process to close that`
`21:43.01`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`oh`
`21:43.04`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it doesnt fuck up on Opera =D`
`21:43.07`	`jme`	`RaydenUni: what browser?`
`21:43.10`	`Coruss`	`haha nice, the script doesn't work on safari`
`21:43.11`	`RaydenUni`	`firefox`
`21:43.20`	`jme`	`Coruss: it worked on safari for me`
`21:43.23`	`deltron`	`I just ctrl + w'd to close that tab`
`21:43.31`	`RaydenUni`	`alt f4 wouldn't work`
`21:43.35`	`Mudkips`	`it should`
`21:43.35`	`jme`	`Coruss: i used command w to close it and the script caught it`
`21:43.39`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`the rialliance link supposed to not be able to close or something?`
`21:43.44`	`Fisker-`	`why would you close it?`
`21:43.44`	`RaydenUni`	`i couldn't close it`
`21:43.47`	`Coruss`	`jme: ya it just did it to me too`
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`21:43.50`	`RaydenUni`	`i had to kill the firefox process`
`21:43.50`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`21:43.53`	`Mudkips`	`lol`
`21:43.53`	`jme`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: it closes eventually if you click all the popups`
`21:43.58`	`RaydenUni`	`first it bounced around the screen a little bit`
`21:44.02`	`deltron`	`there's popups?`
`21:44.07`	`RaydenUni`	`then every time i hit alt f4 it sounds like it restarts or something`
`21:44.07`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`anyways, anyone mind checking out my pastey?`
`21:44.08`	`jme`	`deltron: javascript confirmation popups`
`21:44.11`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`deltron: HEY! THAT WAS MY LINE!`
`21:44.21`	`RaydenUni`	`if i try to browse away or click on anything it gives me confirmation popups`
`21:44.24`	`Diao`	`that's where noscript comes in handy`
`21:44.26`	`RaydenUni`	`so i couldn't get out of it`
`21:44.27`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I haven't gotten a single popup and can close it without problems`
`21:44.28`	`Diao`	`blocks that shit`
`21:44.28`	`RaydenUni`	`i have noscript`
`21:44.29`	`jme`	`Diao: yea`
`21:44.31`	`jme`	`+h`
`21:44.32`	`break19`	`or, if you use a mac, you can option-rightclick safari, and select force quit. :p`
`21:44.32`	`Fisker-`	`NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP`
`21:44.36`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Opera ftw :>`
`21:44.40`	`Coruss`	`Kaelten: I always assumed curse was just running on servers that couldn't handle the traffic ^^`
`21:44.45`	`RaydenUni`	`i like how firefox asked me if i wanted to use the old session`
`21:44.55`	`jme`	`should've said yes`
`21:45.08`	`RaydenUni`	`hmm, i had noscript`
`21:45.33`	`jme`	`Fisker-: i think i have successfully rickrolled #wowace`
`21:45.37`	`break19`	`Coruss: works on my safari. but then Its vanilla setup :p`
`21:45.54`	`Coruss`	`break19: ya it worked when I tried to kill the window`
`21:46.05`	`break19`	`i figured it was somethin dumb, but i dont care.. never bothers me to force-quit somethin. :)`
`21:46.05`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`for some reason CraftsList 2 won't update with my new recipies...what to do?`
`21:46.36`	`deltron`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: did you try yelling at it?`
`21:46.42`	`Guillotine`	`is there any way to use OnUpdate via AceEvent? or do I have to make my own frame?`
`21:47.11`	`RaydenUni`	`yay noscript defeats rick roll`
`21:47.36`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`deltron: yes, first thing I did`
`21:48.06`	`Fisker-`	`rickroll @ thottbot = priceless`
`21:48.06`	`deltron`	`hmm`
`21:48.13`	`jme`	`Fisker-: i missed that :(`
`21:48.17`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`cL2 only shows half my recipies or something`
`21:48.25`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`says I can only make ONE mail armor item >.<`
`21:48.30`	`Fisker-`	`ownt jme`
`21:48.43`	`deltron`	`I never used CraftsList`
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`21:48.48`	`deltron`	`maybe I should check it out`
`21:49.47`	`kergoth`	`cl2 works well for me.. hmm`
`21:49.59`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`it won't show the epic thingies I can make :<`
`21:50.01`	`break19`	`wrk4me`
`21:50.02`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`cba having addons for crafting`
`21:50.09`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`since i only do tailoring and enchanting like once a month`
`21:50.25`	`break19`	`"the epic thingies" i need me some of those, too`
`21:50.44`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`Anyways, anyone here able to look at my pastey and help with some table stuff ?`
`21:50.59`	`break19`	`Dustwhisper\|: i can do half of it`
`21:51.02`	`break19`	`I looked..`
`21:51.05`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`just blew 1.5k on epic BS plans and then cList won't even fucking print it >.<`
`21:51.08`	`break19`	`unfortunately, its greek :p`
`21:51.21`	`break19`	`im not that advanced yet. heh`
`21:51.35`	`Fisker-`	`http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6-KJjcp-sEQ`
`21:54.17`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Fisker-: that supposed to be the same "can't get out of it"-thingie?`
`21:55.00`	`RaydenUni`	`so elkbuffbar, i can't figure out how to change the width`
`21:55.04`	`RaydenUni`	`or how the filters work at all`
`21:55.07`	`RaydenUni`	`is there a guide somewhere?`
`21:55.40`	`Fisker-`	`what Pkekyo\|cookieplz ?`
`21:56.20`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`nevermind :>`
`21:56.32`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: exactly what are you trying to achieve?`
`21:56.46`	`Kaelten`	`Coruss: in all honesty the hardware is very good`
`21:57.04`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`I still dont like curses new UI`
`21:57.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Dustwhisper\|: link please?`
`21:57.16`	`Kaelten`	`its not perfect`
`21:57.19`	`Kaelten`	`but its better`
`21:57.21`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`actually noone in my guild does`
`21:57.56`	`Kaelten`	`hrm`
`21:58.01`	`Kaelten`	`wish I had a vote bot`
`21:58.01`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`to curse or my pastey problem Pkekyo\|cookieplz ?`
`21:58.40`	`[dRaCo]`	`kaelten: irc? wow? something else?`
`21:58.47`	`Kaelten`	`irc`
`21:58.49`	`jme`	`heh cool, warcraftrealms links to armory stuff now`
`21:59.05`	`Kaelten`	`I would like to take a vote on what people think about curse's new ui`
`21:59.12`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Dustwhisper\|: curse`
`21:59.17`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`curse.com =D ?`
`21:59.23`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`http://bash.org/?790133`
`21:59.25`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`that is hilarious`
`21:59.31`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten: it has its ups and downs`
`22:00.07`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz i want to change the width of EBB`
`22:00.13`	`RaydenUni`	`i think they are too wide right now`
`22:00.15`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`I still think it looks like someone bought a CMS package and slapped it on a server`
`22:00.18`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it has some nice features though`
`22:00.42`	`CIA-22`	`03sayclub * r45541 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua:`
`22:00.42`	`CIA-22`	`BigWigs:`
`22:00.43`	`CIA-22`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:00.52`	`[dRaCo]`	`Kaelten: got an eggdrop? there are several script to do that`
`22:01.00`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: that would be horizontally, no? (I'm stupid tonight)`
`22:01.07`	`RaydenUni`	`yes`
`22:01.09`	`RaydenUni`	`i only see height`
`22:01.18`	`RaydenUni`	`and what the heck is the Tench group for?`
`22:01.24`	`RaydenUni`	`the only definition i see for Tench is a fish`
`22:01.32`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Dustwhisper\|: where on curse.com can I find the UI?`
`22:01.39`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: gimme a sec`
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`22:02.28`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: Group Settings --> Group 1 --> Bar Layout --> Width (it's all the way at the bottom)`
`22:02.40`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`ehm`
`22:02.46`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`I mean the curse.com User interface`
`22:02.48`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`as in the web interface`
`22:02.50`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`as in their new layout`
`22:02.56`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ah`
`22:03.09`	`Mudkips`	`wow`
`22:03.15`	`Guillotine`	`I personally love it with the dark theme. the light theme, not so much`
`22:03.17`	`Mudkips`	`so that new expansion raises level cap to 80`
`22:03.49`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`that wasnt really unexpected`
`22:03.51`	`Kaelten`	`Mudkips: rumor as far as I know`
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`22:03.56`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`I do hope the spell inscription shit is true`
`22:03.58`	`Guillotine`	`its all rumors`
`22:03.59`	`Kaelten`	`did it get announced somewhere?`
`22:03.59`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`tbh, I think the new curse UI is a little too "fancypants" and bloated`
`22:04.03`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`so we can finally get some damn uniqueness`
`22:04.14`	`Mudkips`	`"Once certain criteria are met, players will be able to create a new death knight character, which will start at a high level."`
`22:04.17`	`Mudkips`	`Do want.`
`22:04.21`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`why does everything have to look 3D-ish nowadays? >.<`
`22:04.25`	`ckknight`	`link, Mudkips`
`22:04.29`	Arrowmaster`	`wow can you say fake`
`22:04.36`	`ckknight`	`yea, I bet fake.`
`22:04.37`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`worldofraids.com`
`22:04.50`	`Guillotine`	`it was originally found in the dutch version of the ESRB's website`
`22:04.53`	`Guillotine`	`so could be real`
`22:04.57`	`Diao`	`german version*`
`22:04.57`	`Guillotine`	`but... I don't know`
`22:04.58`	`Diao`	`not duitch`
`22:04.59`	`Diao`	`dutch*`
`22:05.05`	`Mudkips`	`Dustwhisper\|, it camp from WoR ??`
`22:05.06`	`Guillotine`	`oh, thought it was dutch`
`22:05.13`	`Mudkips`	`forum admin who posted it didn't link the source`
`22:05.13`	`Guillotine`	`Mudkips: not originally`
`22:05.14`	`Mudkips`	`failure.`
`22:05.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`no way in hell would they ever let you create a high level character`
`22:05.22`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`it came from a german wow site`
`22:05.27`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`but its easier to link to WOR`
`22:05.28`	`Mudkips`	`you need member status to view ours`
`22:05.30`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`cause they have the real link`
`22:05.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`its probably for the demo only`
`22:05.38`	`RaydenUni`	`thank Pkekyo\|cookieplz i just didn't see it. i guess i was assuming width would be next to height`
`22:05.50`	`RaydenUni`	`gag, my sister is in her room with the door closed listening to country`
`22:06.00`	`Boubouille`	`Mudkips : www.mmo-champion.com`
`22:06.03`	`Boubouille`	`original sources are here :)`
`22:06.11`	`RaydenUni`	`what is Tench?`
`22:06.11`	`Boubouille`	`wowszene.de for the FAQ`
`22:06.19`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: I didn't see it at first either...it should be up by height, indeed`
`22:06.24`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`Hmm`
`22:07.01`	`Guillotine`	`so theres no way to utiliize OnUpdate through ace? damn. guess I'll just have to make a frame then`
`22:07.15`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`sigh....webdesigns are so fucking bloated nowadays :<`
`22:07.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol love the deathknight image on mmo-champion`
`22:07.41`	`Nargiddley`	`Guillotine, ScheduleRepeatingEvent`
`22:07.44`	`Boubouille`	`uber photoshop skills baybe �`
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`22:08.04`	`Boubouille`	`I think i've also got a fake as good as the worgen one somewhere`
`22:08.25`	`Boubouille`	`http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9628/omgnewracens9.png`
`22:08.28`	`deltron`	`where's that northrend image you posted in here the other day? :D`
`22:08.32`	`Guillotine`	`Nargiddley: and how would I make that go every frame rather than just on a timer?`
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`22:08.38`	`Boubouille`	`which one ? northrend new races ?`
`22:08.42`	`Boubouille`	`http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/northrend_newrace.jpg !`
`22:08.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`Boubouille: omg thats great`
`22:08.42`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz what is Tench?`
`22:08.50`	`deltron`	`hahaha yeah`
`22:09.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`22:09.07`	`Mudkips`	`I know I'm making a bloodelf death knight for sure`
`22:09.09`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: don't have a fucking clue`
`22:09.23`	`Qaarh`	`Boubouille: oh god...`
`22:09.30`	`Boubouille`	`Mudkips : only female dwarves and female taurens will be able to chose death knight.`
`22:09.35`	`RaydenUni`	`according to mirriam webster it's some sort of fish`
`22:09.36`	`Boubouille`	`that's the price to pay, sorry`
`22:09.42`	`Mudkips`	`lol`
`22:09.43`	`RaydenUni`	`my poisons show up under it though`
`22:09.55`	`Mudkips`	`funny how they say high level`
`22:10.04`	`Mudkips`	`I wonder if its going to be 60`
`22:10.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://nynerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/mtb-cliffs-of-moher.jpg`
`22:10.06`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`:O`
`22:10.08`	`Mudkips`	`or like lvl 40 -_-`
`22:10.59`	`RaydenUni`	`info on new classe?`
`22:11.04`	`blay`	`any familiar w/ sct & sctd?`
`22:11.05`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`looks fake`
`22:11.14`	`[dRaCo]`	`"New profession : Inscription. (allows the player to permanently enhance their spells and abilities and to create mysterious items of power to use, trade, and sell.)" <-- imba?`
`22:11.18`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`yes`
`22:11.19`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`want that`
`22:11.21`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`want want want want want`
`22:11.26`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`finally some characteruniqueness`
`22:11.39`	`Guillotine`	`I hope the inscriptions can be used on other people though and not just the person with that profession`
`22:11.44`	`Kody-`	`Depends on what it does`
`22:11.51`	`Guillotine`	`spent so much time leveling up JC, don't want to have to switch again :/`
`22:11.57`	`Amadeo`	`Antiarc\|Work: that's sick`
`22:11.58`	`Kody-`	`If it's just damage augments on the spells then that isn't very unique at all`
`22:12.12`	`Kody-`	`Now if it makes your fear drain mana and/or heal you too, then that's cool`
`22:12.31`	`RaydenUni`	`what is this info on deathknights?`
`22:12.35`	`Guillotine`	`my guess is at least some of them are fairly unique like that. chance to stun, chance to steal health, chance to steal mana`
`22:12.36`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`someone that's not a retard like me help me with http://ace.pastey.net/71701 please =)`
`22:12.48`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'll likely pick up Inscription on my rogue`
`22:12.51`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Ench/Herb right now.`
`22:13.00`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`id take inscription over enchanting on my mage`
`22:13.01`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Herb took me all of a casual week of play to level`
`22:13.14`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I've worked too hard on enchanting to drop it now :P`
`22:13.21`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`370-375 is hell.`
`22:13.23`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`i have most enchanting recipies`
`22:13.26`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`the kara ones etc`
`22:14.25`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`but`
`22:14.25`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`the only thing positive about enchanting is +24 spelldmg`
`22:14.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Enchanting's also a hell of a moneymaker.`
`22:14.25`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Disenchanting, rather.`
`22:14.26`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`disenchanting is ye`
`22:14.26`	`Diao`	`but you lose so much money raising ench to the level where you can DE`
`22:14.26`	`Diao`	`lol`
`22:14.26`	`RaydenUni`	`that post on mmo-champion looks like every other fake patch/expansion prediction i've seen`
`22:14.26`	`kergoth`	`what's better for a farming char, DE or skinning?`
`22:15.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Not really, Diao`
`22:15.11`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`skinning`
`22:15.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`There's a ton of stuff that won't sell that you can DE`
`22:15.11`	`Boubouille`	`RaydenUni : except that it's on MMO-Champion.`
`22:15.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'd say DE if it's a rogue`
`22:15.11`	`Boubouille`	`if it's on mmo-champion, it's true.`
`22:15.11`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Because you can stealth-farm enchanting mats`
`22:15.11`	`RaydenUni`	`i wish it wasn't in german`
`22:15.11`	`Kody-`	`I dunno RaydenUni, the URL error is pretty convincing in itself`
`22:15.11`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`still rumours Boubouille`
`22:15.11`	`Diao`	`no Antiarc`
`22:15.11`	`Kody-`	`Also the guys screwing up and listing the Leipzig scheduled games before it's announced :)`
`22:15.17`	`Diao`	`you have to spend a ton of money`
`22:15.17`	`Diao`	`to raise enchanting`
`22:15.17`	`Diao`	`lol`
`22:15.20`	`Amadeo`	`Boubouille: Is that because you work there? :P`
`22:15.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`You have to spend a ton of money to level any crafting profession`
`22:15.34`	`Diao`	`well not directly`
`22:15.34`	`Boubouille`	`sure, Blizzard let me run a datamining site while I work for them.`
`22:15.41`	`Boubouille`	`oh, you mean on mmo-champion ?`
`22:15.45`	`Amadeo`	`Yes...`
`22:15.46`	`Boubouille`	`of course I work here, I'm the only one :/`
`22:15.48`	`[dRaCo]`	`Inscription's gonna be imba. better spells than anybody else? sucks.`
`22:15.52`	`Amadeo`	`:P`
`22:15.56`	`Diao`	`only if you don't get the accompanying gathering prof :P`
`22:15.58`	`RaydenUni`	`only one hero class? that's terrible`
`22:17.08`	`RaydenUni`	`now everyone will want to be a death knight and there are no other hero classes to compete`
`22:17.08`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I suspect that Inscription will be like "active" enchanting`
`22:17.08`	`RaydenUni`	`active?`
`22:17.08`	`Diao`	`there will be more probably`
`22:17.08`	`Diao`	`this is just preliminary info`
`22:17.08`	`Amadeo`	`Boubouille: Oh, so it's your site, didn't know`
`22:17.08`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Well, most enchants right now are passive stat boosts`
`22:17.08`	`Diao`	`assuming that's even real`
`22:17.08`	`Kody-`	`Don't worry, you'll have to kill Arthas and loot Frostmourne to unlock the Death Knight`
`22:17.08`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm thinking inscription will be procs, on-use effects, etc.`
`22:17.09`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`i would think it would be cool things`
`22:17.09`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`like adding more spelldmg, or fusing spells etc`
`22:17.09`	`Amadeo`	`Kody-: That would be stupid, unless it's a server-wide unlock :)`
`22:17.32`	`RaydenUni`	`if this next expansion is all only 70+ stuff for hardcore raiders then boring`
`22:17.32`	`RaydenUni`	`i think a new low level area would be better`
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`22:17.36`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`No`
`22:17.42`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`You play in a low-level area for a week`
`22:17.44`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Then are done with it`
`22:17.55`	`[dRaCo]`	`that'll still make you a better healer/dd/tank and therefore imba.`
`22:17.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`You can play in max-level content for a far longer time`
`22:17.57`	`Amadeo`	`I still want instances that one person can do :P`
`22:18.07`	`RaydenUni`	`however i guess it's good that it's levels 70-80 instead of just making it a harder 70 area where you need all the raid gear from outlands`
`22:18.18`	`RaydenUni`	`Amadeo low level ones`
`22:18.20`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: solo instances would be interesting`
`22:18.24`	`RaydenUni`	`for certain classes`
`22:18.32`	`Amadeo`	`what ckknight said!`
`22:18.32`	`RaydenUni`	`paladins can solo stuff like SM`
`22:18.44`	`Amadeo`	`doesn't even have to be crazy loot`
`22:18.46`	`Amadeo`	`just for fun`
`22:18.51`	`Amadeo`	`maybe make a little money`
`22:18.53`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`a mage can solo SM`
`22:18.55`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`or dire maul`
`22:18.55`	`RaydenUni`	`Amadeo all the azeroth instances`
`22:18.56`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`or LBRS`
`22:19.02`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah, but designed for solo play`
`22:19.03`	`RaydenUni`	`mage can solo LBRS?`
`22:19.03`	`Diao`	`yeah you can't really design solo instances`
`22:19.04`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: well, there should be some loot, but not as good as what you could get in a 5-man or 25-man, imho`
`22:19.08`	`Amadeo`	`yeah`
`22:19.10`	`RaydenUni`	`wow`
`22:19.14`	`Amadeo`	`Why not?`
`22:19.15`	`Diao`	`unless they spawn different mobs/etc for different classes`
`22:19.18`	`Amadeo`	`:)`
`22:19.25`	`Diao`	`because an instance designed for a paladin`
`22:19.33`	`Diao`	`would have to be way more difficult than one for a warrior`
`22:19.33`	`ckknight`	`nah, just gotta have it be fun enough`
`22:19.36`	`Amadeo`	`undead stuff`
`22:19.40`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`22:19.46`	`RaydenUni`	`some classes can't solo dungeons. rogues can solo bosses but not dungeons`
`22:19.47`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I can solo LBRS as a rogue`
`22:19.51`	`RaydenUni`	`a priest would have a hard time`
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`22:19.57`	`RaydenUni`	`antiarcyou can clear all the mobs with your rogue?`
`22:20.11`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`he should be able to =D`
`22:20.12`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`evasiontank!`
`22:20.14`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I haven't done a full clear, but I don't have any problem with any single pull in there`
`22:20.24`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I mean, 5-6 pulls are trivial with blade flurry.`
`22:20.38`	`RaydenUni`	`cooldown though?`
`22:20.42`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`2 minutes`
`22:20.49`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`They're 20 levels below me and I have TBC stamina levels. Really, not too hard to manage.`
`22:20.51`	`RaydenUni`	`hmm`
`22:20.59`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`yeah`
`22:21.04`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah i would much rather see a 3rd faction and new 1-60 content`
`22:21.22`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`agreed`
`22:21.29`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`1-70, that is`
`22:21.29`	`Mudkips`	`that would be nice`
`22:21.35`	`Mudkips`	`I'd like to start over`
`22:21.43`	`RaydenUni`	`eh. i think outlands suffices for 60-70 right now`
`22:21.56`	`RaydenUni`	`i rolled my first alt a while back. now a 29 rogue`
`22:21.59`	`yacoob`	`well, gossip has it, bots are coming to wow`
`22:22.03`	`RaydenUni`	`it's fun doing it again, but some stuff sucks`
`22:22.03`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: ofc, but outland gets boring!`
`22:22.06`	`yacoob`	`as in, henchmen from GuildWars`
`22:22.13`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`steamwheedle cartel should be a playable faction :>`
`22:22.16`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz my main is 67 so i haven't finished it all yet :/`
`22:22.27`	`Mudkips`	`outland was hella boring before they introduced the daily rep quests`
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`22:22.33`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: belive me, it'll get really fucking boring in a few weeks`
`22:22.34`	`Mudkips`	`all I did was fish back then`
`22:22.35`	`Mudkips`	`lol`
`22:22.37`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`i don't agree. releveling 1-70 is boring -- even if there's new content for it`
`22:22.45`	`RaydenUni`	`i think some sort of naga race. most of the areas would be underwater. you'd walk though, not swim. i hate swimming`
`22:23.00`	`RaydenUni`	`some people love levelling`
`22:23.06`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`NM\|Xinhuan: yes, but new content makes it a little better than repeating the same crap all the time`
`22:23.07`	`RaydenUni`	`i have a guildmate who has 4 or 5 lvl 70's`
`22:23.07`	`yacoob`	`(I found raiding boring, >2 visit to an instance is boring to me :)`
`22:23.10`	`Mudkips`	`leveling is kind of fun`
`22:23.17`	`Mudkips`	`but repping up is not fun`
`22:23.22`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`new content eventually becomes old content`
`22:23.23`	`Mudkips`	`i don't want to farm shadow labs again`
`22:23.24`	`Mudkips`	`never`
`22:23.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`NM\|Xinhuan: well, yeah, ofcourse...that's why we need more new content!`
`22:23.50`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`~_~`
`22:23.51`	`purl`	`:/`
`22:23.56`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Mudkips: I'm still doing that :<`
`22:24.01`	`RaydenUni`	`and with deathknights, you'll have to level again anyways`
`22:24.03`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`but whats the point of having 20 different lvl 1-10 zones`
`22:24.18`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`diversity`
`22:24.21`	`yacoob`	`btw, were deathknights confirmed?`
`22:24.22`	`RaydenUni`	`how does a hero class work? you have to have a "high level" to create a new one? or your high level becomes the hero?`
`22:24.27`	`yacoob`	`(was anything confirmed?)`
`22:24.29`	`Mudkips`	`well they said deathknights are high level but they didn't say how high`
`22:24.30`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yacoob: nothing is confirmed`
`22:24.32`	`Xuerian`	`Deathknights?`
`22:24.33`	`yacoob`	`aha :D`
`22:24.43`	`Amadeo`	`Xuerian: Rumored new class for the expansion`
`22:24.44`	`RaydenUni`	`NM\|Xinhuan we don't need many for that. but it's nice to have options so you don't have to do STV`
`22:24.53`	`Xuerian`	`Ah...`
`22:24.55`	`yacoob`	`Xuerian, yes. "I'm a deathknight and I'm ok, I sleep all night and I kill all day!"`
`22:24.59`	`durcyn`	`it's just some german fansite making crap up`
`22:25.04`	`ggilbert`	`I really don't think we're getting any new classes`
`22:25.06`	`durcyn`	`so gullible people`
`22:25.10`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`STV is alright, it was just stuffed due to crazy amounts of pvp there, plus the fact its kinda too big`
`22:25.12`	`ggilbert`	`it'd be chaos.`
`22:25.14`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`could have split it into 2 zones`
`22:25.17`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`imo`
`22:25.22`	`RaydenUni`	`i said it looked like every other fake but someoen said it was on mmo-champion so it must be true`
`22:25.23`	`yacoob`	`max lvl pvp-only chars would be good, but WoW is too much about itemization so it would be a no-no`
`22:25.26`	`yacoob`	`pity :)`
`22:25.29`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`NM\|Xinhuan: still fuckloads of gankers in STV`
`22:25.33`	`durcyn`	`RaydenUni: no, it's on "wowszene.de"`
`22:25.36`	`yacoob`	`the only thing from WoW I lack in Guildwars is stealth :)`
`22:25.59`	`RaydenUni`	`im not getting much work done today`
`22:26.00`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`you can still go southshore/alterac/thousand needles`
`22:26.11`	`Mudkips`	`guildwars isn't even real mmo`
`22:26.11`	`RaydenUni`	`i'm planning on avoiding STV with my alt this time around`
`22:26.15`	`Mudkips`	`so ronery in guildwards`
`22:26.16`	`Boubouille`	`durcyn : it's reported on mmo-champion = true !`
`22:26.22`	`RaydenUni`	`yes it is Mudkips it's just not persistant world`
`22:26.25`	`yacoob`	`Mudkips, yeah. But I found it more fun :)`
`22:26.28`	`durcyn`	`Boubouille: sure, you would say that =P`
`22:26.33`	`yacoob`	`RaydenUni, actually the authors classify it as CORPG`
`22:26.39`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`Dustwhisper\|: i still can't pm you, make a new channel and pm me ;p`
`22:26.40`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:26.52`	`RaydenUni`	`GW is an entirely different kind of game than WoW, but that doesn't mean it's not an mmo`
`22:26.52`	`Boubouille`	`well, i've never been wrong about northrend in the past`
`22:26.58`	`Mudkips`	`hillsbrade is definitely worse than STV`
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`22:27.04`	`Mudkips`	`i hate that place`
`22:27.08`	`RaydenUni`	`i think most everyone agrees the expansion will be northrend`
`22:27.17`	`durcyn`	`i'm crossing my fingers for south seas`
`22:27.22`	`Boubouille`	`I mean, the name, the level cap, etc ^^`
`22:27.22`	`RaydenUni`	`what is south seas?`
`22:27.26`	`Mudkips`	`PIRATES`
`22:27.27`	`Mudkips`	`arrrr`
`22:27.30`	`durcyn`	`undermine, maelstrom`
`22:27.31`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`the problam with hillsbrad is the vast amount of gankers on the small area there is`
`22:27.36`	`durcyn`	`but no one knows`
`22:27.38`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`<-- is captain of <Southsea BuccaneerS>`
`22:27.43`	`NeoTron`	`considering how they got so much shit for no new classes in BC, I'm almost certain they are adding a new class`
`22:27.44`	`durcyn`	`really, no one actually knows, it's all speculation`
`22:27.57`	`NeoTron`	`esp since they are mostly done balancing the existing classes which was their excuse before`
`22:28.02`	`Chompers`	`my friends guild rank is 'dirty badger'`
`22:28.05`	`RaydenUni`	`blademaster ftw!`
`22:28.06`	`Chompers`	`i have no idea why`
`22:28.11`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`tbh, I'd love an Emerald Dream expansion`
`22:28.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`balancing is mostly done? lol`
`22:28.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats a good one`
`22:28.30`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`indeed`
`22:28.37`	`Mudkips`	`druids must get some crazy aura in the emerald dream`
`22:28.40`	`Mudkips`	`like aoe roots`
`22:28.43`	`Mudkips`	`and cyclone`
`22:28.44`	`yacoob`	`they could've finish some questlines and places, instead of giving new content...`
`22:28.47`	`Mudkips`	`and aoe lifeblooms`
`22:28.48`	`RaydenUni`	`balance between classes will never be done. changing it up keeps things interesting`
`22:28.49`	`Mudkips`	`that would be hawt`
`22:29.00`	`yacoob`	`like the rogue faction, whatsanameit...`
`22:29.03`	`NeoTron`	`Arrowmaster: according to blizzard yes`
`22:29.08`	`RaydenUni`	`i would like more class quests`
`22:29.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`indeed...I had a privat server....so much unused land 'round :<`
`22:29.30`	`CIA-22`	`03adirelle * r45542 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (6 files in 4 dirs):`
`22:29.30`	`CIA-22`	`SimpleSelfRebuff:`
`22:29.30`	`CIA-22`	`- now uses SinkLib for reminder output.`
`22:29.31`	`CIA-22`	`- fixed FuBarPlugin title.`
`22:29.31`	`RaydenUni`	`i would really like to see some more long quest lines and more focused quests in each zone`
`22:29.31`	`Mudkips`	`it's because they try to keep balancing shit around pvp`
`22:29.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`yet pvp isnt balanced`
`22:29.42`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: agreed`
`22:29.45`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`that the 1hand spellblade arena is better than anything before hyjal/BT`
`22:29.45`	`Mudkips`	`and it will never be balanced`
`22:29.47`	`Dustwhisper\|`	`is bullshit`
`22:29.53`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`pvp will never be balanced, and shouldn't be balanced`
`22:29.55`	`RaydenUni`	`have zones where there is a clear path from when you start to where you end up doing the dungeons`
`22:30.10`	`RaydenUni`	`maybe options on what quests you want so if you hate gathering quests you could do more assassination or killing quests`
`22:30.25`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yeah`
`22:30.39`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`would be great`
`22:30.44`	`Mudkips`	`if need to fix gathering quests like this:`
`22:30.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`old world needs more quests, theres not enough to level alts with`
`22:30.51`	`RaydenUni`	`pvp doesn't necessarily have to be 100% balanced, but every class should be viable. no druids in the 8 blizzcon arena teams is bad, 1 rogue? bad. warriors and paladins in every single team? bad`
`22:30.54`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`continuety is something wow really needs, and got jack shit of`
`22:30.56`	`Mudkips`	`increase the # of items to gather but make the drop rate 100%`
`22:31.00`	`Mudkips`	`or 90% whatever`
`22:31.11`	`Mudkips`	`so you aren't there for hours waiting for that 1% item to drop`
`22:31.22`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`indeed`
`22:31.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`they need a fucking quest item bag`
`22:31.34`	`yacoob`	`<smallvoice> in guildwars pvp is ballanced, so it's doable... </>`
`22:31.36`	`yacoob`	`hides`
`22:31.43`	`Killmore7`	`Cryect ?`
`22:31.46`	`Mudkips`	`or just make bags bigger?`
`22:31.57`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz imagine if you were given a graph of the quest chain in each zone when you get there. as you find the quests the info on the nodes is filled in. at the end of the graph are the elite and then dungeon quests. you have to make your way through the quest graph any way you want. multiple paths to take`
`22:31.58`	`Mudkips`	`I need room to carry my pirate/fishing/wizard/pimp costumes`
`22:32.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`they keep adding more and more quest items though, stupid fucking tokens and the like`
`22:32.11`	`Amadeo`	`They must have done some HUGE changes to Guild Wars PvP since I played, because it was the most unbalanced game ever at one point :P`
`22:32.13`	`RaydenUni`	`<Arrowmaster> they need a fucking quest item bag <-- ooh that would be nice`
`22:32.27`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: yeah, it'd be great fun, methinks...and alot easier`
`22:32.30`	`yacoob`	`Amadeo, well, that's my point of view at least :)`
`22:32.38`	`RaydenUni`	`you'd have an idea of what you are doing and a purpose and a goal`
`22:32.48`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yeah, too much of the purchase rewards with this and that token`
`22:32.55`	`RaydenUni`	`you would "beat" zones instead of simply levelling out of them`
`22:32.59`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`like a prequest...only you level with it`
`22:33.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`i have a little area in my bags set aside just for all the fucking tokens and curency items`
`22:33.05`	`Mudkips`	`at least you get to choose which items you want with tokens`
`22:33.09`	`Amadeo`	`yacoob: I played when it came out...Class/Monk ruled everything, you didn't need anything else`
`22:33.11`	`Mudkips`	`instead of hunting for loot drop`
`22:33.24`	`RaydenUni`	`i wish i worked for blizzard so i could implement this :)`
`22:33.27`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Arrowmaster: I just dump all that crap in bank the second I get to a city`
`22:33.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`my bank is full`
`22:33.36`	`Mudkips`	`implement /facepalm emote`
`22:33.36`	`RaydenUni`	`i should write up a big post on this`
`22:33.37`	`Mudkips`	`^^`
`22:33.42`	`RaydenUni`	`with pictures`
`22:33.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`and i have 9 primal mooncloth bags`
`22:33.54`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: agreed!`
`22:33.59`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`WTB!`
`22:34.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`I have four 18 slots...can't afford anything else :<`
`22:34.11`	`RaydenUni`	`i guess i'm not getting any work done. i'll work on this instead`
`22:34.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`i have 9 primal mooncloth bags, my shard bag, and a single 18 sloter left in my bank`
`22:35.08`	`Xuerian`	`Alright! I'm swapping Enchanting after i get my heart of the mountain. What should I get for money, mining or herbalism?`
`22:35.16`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: gogo! keep us updated...make your own page on wowwiki! x)`
`22:35.34`	`Mudkips`	`HotM it's not even worth it anymore`
`22:35.40`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz i'm going to post it on my blog. wowwiki doesn't seem like a great place for my design ideas :)`
`22:36.07`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: linkage!`
`22:36.14`	`RaydenUni`	`http://raydenuni.com`
`22:36.38`	`Mudkips`	`i see your plan now`
`22:36.39`	`CIA-22`	`03durcyn * r45543 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.toc embeds.xml libs/): BigBrother: revert to ParserLib-1.1`
`22:36.44`	`Mudkips`	`it was all an act to advertise his blog`
`22:36.48`	`Mudkips`	`i c wut u did thar`
`22:37.00`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`wtb enough money to sustain my own domain and webhosting xD`
`22:37.52`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`wtb education in programming/design plx`
`22:38.06`	`RaydenUni`	`you in school?`
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`22:38.15`	`RaydenUni`	`webhosting isn't really that expensive`
`22:38.21`	`RaydenUni`	`mine is like $8/month i think`
`22:38.45`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: yeah...`
`22:39.01`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: true, but I have alot of other expenses, and basically zero income`
`22:39.07`	`Amadeo`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz: Code some good addons and put in Donation links ;)`
`22:39.21`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah. i didn't get my website till after my 2nd year in college`
`22:39.24`	`RaydenUni`	`couldn't do without it now`
`22:39.56`	`Speeddymon`	`hmm`
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`22:40.23`	`[dRaCo]`	`Xuerian: I'd go for mining. Adamantite sells for a lot, and prospecting is a little bit like going to vegas, but with higher chances of winning :D`
`22:40.24`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Amadeo: I'm too green at programming, and don't have enough time to learn it nowadays`
`22:40.46`	`ccKep`	`I... don't... fucking... get... it`
`22:40.51`	`Mudkips`	`I wonder if we can fly in Northrend`
`22:40.53`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo: I code good addons and put in donation links. It's not enough to do very much with`
`22:41.02`	`Xuerian`	`[dRaCo]: I have engineering at 300 and I'm not dropping that (ugh not leveling that again), even for prospecting`
`22:41.09`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: Quiet! You got a dollar!`
`22:41.16`	`Amadeo`	`hahaha`
`22:41.18`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`Mudkips: wouldn't bet on it`
`22:41.27`	`[dRaCo]`	`Xuerian: you dont have to do the prospecting yourself`
`22:41.36`	`[dRaCo]`	`just have a gem cutter do it for you`
`22:41.39`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`also: mining adamantite = win...if you're up at 4-6am and feel like farming then :>`
`22:41.40`	`ccKep`	`pastey laggy? -.-`
`22:42.46`	`Speeddymon`	`I have a function for a get in an AceOptions table, and then a validate table. I've setup a function to clear the validate table and open the waterfall frame, because I want to clear the dropdown and build it anew each time the waterfall frame is opened`
`22:42.47`	`Speeddymon`	`but`
`22:43.00`	`Mudkips`	`they need to let us have a 3rd profession`
`22:43.01`	`ccKep`	`http://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/pastey.txt << why the f*ck does this output "1" ?`
`22:43.16`	`[dRaCo]`	`Xuerian: I usually let my prospecter keep the dusk, so we both profit...`
`22:43.29`	`Xuerian`	`[dRaCo]: Haven't thought of that.`
`22:43.45`	`Speeddymon`	`each time (after the first) that i open the waterfall frame, the dropdown uses the previously set values, even though i cleared the validate table and built it new..`
`22:43.49`	`ckknight`	`ccKep: because prototype.encounter == ra.encounter == rb.encounter`
`22:43.52`	`ckknight`	`just one table`
`22:43.54`	`ckknight`	`not multiple tables`
`22:44.03`	`ckknight`	`create the tables separately in your init statement`
`22:44.13`	`Speeddymon`	`so i end up with a blank dropdown, with the options when i click on it, and the option i last selected is still checked..`
`22:44.15`	`Xuerian`	`[dRaCo]: I think I'll do that then, instead of leveling herbalism and farming heavily for a couple weeks for epic mount`
`22:44.15`	`Xuerian`	`[dRaCo]: Since I need it for eng anyway`
`22:44.28`	`Speeddymon`	`anyone know where the last selected option in the validate table gets stored?`
`22:44.43`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`RaydenUni: where you from?`
`22:44.55`	`RaydenUni`	`southern california, just finished school in indiana`
`22:45.25`	`ccKep`	`shouldn't it be equal to the "Adding Methods" example in http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOO-2.0_Tutorial ?`
`22:45.28`	`Mudkips`	`where in socal?`
`22:45.32`	`RaydenUni`	`ventura`
`22:45.32`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ah....`
`22:45.38`	`Mudkips`	`oh that's kinda up there`
`22:45.41`	`RaydenUni`	`?`
`22:45.50`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`someone tell me when americans first start school, and how old they are when they start college? x)`
`22:45.51`	`RaydenUni`	`north end of socal yes`
`22:45.54`	`ccKep`	`eg. reginald.happiness == fluffers.happiness == Cat.prototype.happiness ?`
`22:45.56`	`ckknight`	`no, it is, seeing as the functions are reference equal to one another, the tables are as well`
`22:46.06`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz generally finish highschool around 18 and then 4 years of college`
`22:46.20`	`ckknight`	`ccKep: the happiness field itself was changed.`
`22:46.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`bliz needs to revamp the old world and fix all the holes in the landscape so we can use our flying mounts`
`22:46.23`	`RaydenUni`	`uh, first start school around 5 or 6`
`22:46.31`	`Mudkips`	`Arrowmaster, agreed`
`22:46.35`	`RaydenUni`	`12 requires years, 4 years college`
`22:46.36`	`ckknight`	`ccKep: whereas you never altered the encounters field.`
`22:46.44`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`hmm...`
`22:46.46`	`Mudkips`	`I have not having a skill given to me as a "class" not used in azeroth`
`22:46.47`	`ccKep`	`that's an argument... thanks =)`
`22:46.49`	`Mudkips`	`hate*`
`22:47.00`	`ccKep`	`caused me quite some headache the last hours.. -.-`
`22:47.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`i want to be able to chase down fuckers ganking my alts on my netherdrake`
`22:48.10`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`meh, having a hard time comparing it to the norwegian school system >.<`
`22:48.28`	`Speeddymon`	`arrowmaster: skin`
`22:48.42`	`Speeddymon`	`ckknight: any idea on mine?`
`22:48.47`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz you are from norway? i'm partly norwegian`
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`22:49.04`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yeah`
`22:49.07`	`ckknight`	`Speeddymon: um, what?`
`22:49.21`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`howcome partly norwegian? grandparents?`
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`22:49.28`	`Speeddymon`	`where is the last selected value in a validate table stored?`
`22:49.38`	`Speeddymon`	`i need to clear it each time waterfall opens`
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`22:50.35`	`Nargiddley`	`Speeddymon, your get function returns the selected one`
`22:50.51`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz my grandmother came from norway to canada, married a non-norwegian. so my mom is half and i'm 1/4`
`22:51.17`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`yeah, alot of norwegians of that generation and the one before that emigrated :>`
`22:51.19`	`Speeddymon`	`right, but my function clears the selected one when waterfall opens..`
`22:51.20`	`Speeddymon`	`1 sec`
`22:52.16`	`Chompers`	`wiping in karazhan again, bleah`
`22:52.38`	`Chompers`	`we were at the lurker a few weeks ago...what's happened :<`
`22:52.40`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`meh...I'm completely puzzled as to how to get a decent programming and design education in this fricking country >.<`
`22:53.14`	`ckknight`	`which country, Pkekyo\|cookieplz?`
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`22:53.21`	`ckknight`	`btw, what's with the \|cookieplz?`
`22:53.30`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ckknight: Norway`
`22:53.31`	`ckknight`	`oh, Norwegia?`
`22:53.34`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`ckknight: don't know`
`22:53.43`	`Pkekyo\|cookieplz`	`no, Norwegia is a cheese :>`
`22:53.50`	`ckknight`	`most of my knowledge is autopedogogical`
`22:53.58`	`Amadeo`	`"Oh great, another sword fighting school"`
`22:54.13`	`Pkekyo`	`wha?`
`22:54.23`	`Bejitt`	`http://wowace.com/wiki/Special:Recentchanges hope nobody reports me for spam ;(`
`22:54.24`	`Chompers`	`ckknight is making words up again`
`22:54.25`	`Pkekyo`	`- refering to both ckknight and Amadeo`
`22:54.48`	`ckknight`	`Chompers: I'm not, actually`
`22:54.59`	`ckknight`	`Pkekyo: it means I'm self-taught`
`22:55.01`	`Amadeo`	`In Norway, when you walk around...you want to find a school for programming, but all you can find is stuff for Vikings! How to Pillage for Dummies and stuff!`
`22:55.36`	`Pkekyo`	`ckknight: ah...so am I pretty much...although I haven't tought myself all that much that's of use to me...err...photoshop, html and bass guitar is pretty much it x)`
`22:55.49`	`Pkekyo`	`Amadeo: bitch, please, we learn pillaging in kindergarten! ;>`
`22:55.54`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`22:56.44`	`Pkekyo`	`my problem is that I have a hard time finishing stuff when I try to learn i.e. a new programming language, and start something else instead`
`22:57.23`	`Wobin`	`vipermaverick is a fine example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing`
`22:57.34`	`Diao`	`weird`
`22:57.37`	`Diao`	`everytime i update atlasloot`
`22:57.42`	`Diao`	`it deletes the folders`
`22:57.45`	`Diao`	`for all the loot`
`22:57.48`	`Wobin`	`"I am not a noob, except for the fact that I have no idea of what the hell I am doing, but I am not a noob"`
`22:58.03`	`Diao`	`then i have to go back and manually add them again`
`22:58.16`	`Pkekyo`	`Diao: same happening to me`
`22:58.41`	`ckknight`	`Pkekyo: shrug I taught myself 20 languages`
`22:58.49`	`Chompers`	`how?`
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`22:59.03`	`RaydenUni`	`what kinds of common quests are there that aren't kill or collect?`
`22:59.04`	`Chompers`	`i tried to learn one a few weeks ago. it's so boring`
`22:59.14`	`Pkekyo`	`ckknight: well, you weren't struggling with my attention-span ;>`
`22:59.15`	`Wobin`	`Kemayo: bah, wowace.py -still- coughs on babblelod.sh due to execute permissions, is that something that needs to be set on the file in the repos?`
`22:59.16`	`CIA-22`	`03thrae * r45544 10/tags/PerfectTargets-2.0/: PerfectTargets: Tagged old version of PerfectTargets as I see saroz is still working on it. If anyone wants to work on PerfectTargets, please contact Thrae.`
`22:59.19`	`Diao`	`lol`
`22:59.25`	`Diao`	`when i first read languages`
`22:59.29`	`Diao`	`i thought you meant linguistics`
`22:59.29`	`Pkekyo`	`RaydenUni: goto-quests`
`22:59.33`	`Diao`	`then i realized it was programming languages :P`
`22:59.34`	`ckknight`	`Chompers: I started when I was 10`
`22:59.40`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah`
`22:59.56`	`Wobin`	`RaydenUni: All quests boil down to "Fetch me a pint"`
`23:00.13`	`Pkekyo`	`ckknight: well, you're a fricking prodigy`
`23:00.24`	`Amadeo`	`I used to use Prodigy`
`23:00.24`	`RaydenUni`	`ckknight how old are you now?`
`23:00.27`	`ckknight`	`19`
`23:00.34`	`ckknight`	`I'll be turning 20 on the 22nd`
`23:00.40`	`ckknight`	`3 weeks`
`23:00.42`	`weab`	`i was going to say.. still?`
`23:00.45`	`weab`	`:p`
`23:00.53`	`ckknight`	`Pkekyo: yea, I am`
`23:00.56`	`Pkekyo`	`two years older than me and know 18 languages more than me >.< fu! ;>`
`23:00.56`	`RaydenUni`	`going to college somewhere?`
`23:00.58`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: You should have said 12 or something, just to throw them off`
`23:01.09`	`RaydenUni`	`# of languages known doesn't mean a lot`
`23:01.10`	`ckknight`	`RaydenUni: I need to transfer, I ran out of classes`
`23:01.12`	`Pkekyo`	`I spent too much time on being a musician :<`
`23:01.24`	`Diao`	`ROFL`
`23:01.28`	`Pkekyo`	`RaydenUni: true, but it's certainly hell of a lot more handy to know 20 than 2`
`23:01.40`	`ckknight`	`meh, it's about learning paradigms`
`23:01.45`	`yacoob`	`eh, tbh for a smart person a week is enough to get intimate with a programming language... :)`
`23:01.54`	`ckknight`	`yea, pretty much`
`23:01.56`	`yacoob`	`to master one - that's more of a challenge :)`
`23:02.06`	`RaydenUni`	`i know java, c, c++, c#, ruby, scheme, php, opengl, directx... i'm forgetting something`
`23:02.07`	`Pkekyo`	`yacoob: attention-span is an important factor here`
`23:02.07`	`RaydenUni`	`oh well`
`23:02.11`	`ckknight`	`after working with lua for 18 months, I am very comfortable with its inner workings`
`23:02.16`	`yacoob`	`(I've written few scheme programs, yet I run in horror when I look at them now... :)`
`23:02.20`	`Speeddymon`	`ckknight: http://pastebin.com/d298ee23e plz`
`23:02.25`	`RaydenUni`	`scheme is so beatiful`
`23:02.30`	`RaydenUni`	`but i'd never want to use it for anything pro`
`23:02.33`	`yacoob`	`RaydenUni, seen latest xkcd? :D`
`23:02.38`	`RaydenUni`	`dunno`
`23:02.43`	`RaydenUni`	`oh yeah`
`23:02.45`	`RaydenUni`	`:)`
`23:02.56`	`yacoob`	`These are your father's parenthesis...`
`23:02.59`	`Pkekyo`	`what's scheme?`
`23:03.01`	`RaydenUni`	`i swore i was going to have nightmares about parentheses when i was taking my programming language concepts class`
`23:03.12`	`Amadeo`	`()`
`23:03.13`	`RaydenUni`	`scheme is an academic branch of lisp`
`23:03.15`	`yacoob`	`elegant weapons... for a more civilized age`
`23:03.30`	`Pkekyo`	`lisp? like in can't say "s" properly?`
`23:03.38`	`Bejitt`	`mmmm formal languages and automata`
`23:03.41`	`RaydenUni`	`lisp is a language`
`23:03.48`	`yacoob`	`Pkekyo, basically, a functional language, that scares if with ( and ) :)`
`23:03.56`	`RaydenUni`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp`
`23:03.57`	`yacoob`	`which also holds many jokes`
`23:04.00`	`RaydenUni`	`in scheme EVERYTHING is done recursively`
`23:04.02`	`Speeddymon`	`lisp = programming/scripting language loosely based (i think) on basic`
`23:04.09`	`RaydenUni`	`you don't really use variables`
`23:04.12`	`Pkekyo`	`recursively?`
`23:04.12`	`yacoob`	`Speeddymon, X_x`
`23:04.13`	`RaydenUni`	`it's very clean`
`23:04.15`	`Amadeo`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=33FE384A3A14B802B67760322F898F4F?topicId=712093660&sid=1`
`23:04.16`	`Amadeo`	`owned`
`23:04.17`	`RaydenUni`	`basic?`
`23:04.18`	`ckknight`	`I know Lisp`
`23:04.21`	`ckknight`	`it's nice in some ways`
`23:04.22`	`Pkekyo`	`how ironic that the word lisp has an s in it ^^`
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`23:04.26`	`RaydenUni`	`it's nothing like basic unless i'm gravely mistaken`
`23:04.33`	`Wobin`	`shudder`
`23:04.34`	`Speeddymon`	`notice the (i think)`
`23:04.36`	`yacoob`	`Pkekyo, think of it that way: 'everything is a function, or could be one' :)`
`23:04.39`	`ckknight`	`but I disagree with it in others`
`23:04.41`	`Wobin`	`functional languages are very very cool`
`23:04.49`	`Wobin`	`but to do anythign serious with it is frightening`
`23:05.03`	`yacoob`	`Wobin, AutoCad programming? :D`
`23:05.11`	`yacoob`	`there's $, $ and $ in it :)`
`23:05.12`	`Speeddymon`	`:shudder: autocad`
`23:05.13`	`yacoob`	`well, was.`
`23:05.21`	`CIA-22`	`03starinnia * r45545 10SimpleMD/Locale-deDE.lua:`
`23:05.21`	`CIA-22`	`SimpleMD:`
`23:05.21`	`CIA-22`	`- deDE fix`
`23:05.28`	`yacoob`	`nowadays autocad has something more than just forcefield language...`
`23:05.31`	`Pkekyo`	`yacoob: like using functions to cancel out eachother instead of variables etc?`
`23:05.40`	`Speeddymon`	`ckk: any idea?`
`23:05.42`	`Pkekyo`	`or am I really fucking far off as usual?`
`23:06.30`	`Pkekyo`	`hmm...I really gotta take advanced english before I start trying to learn more programming stuffs`
`23:06.41`	`ckknight`	`dunno, but you're doing hacks, Speeddymon`
`23:07.28`	`yacoob`	`English Hacking? :)`
`23:07.28`	`Aenslaed`	`Could someone more knowledgable with add ons fix FuBar_VoiceFu to stop sending debug text to chatframe1?`
`23:07.30`	`Speeddymon`	`i know i am..`
`23:07.31`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo to do 3(2 + 3) you do this: ( 3 ( + 2 3))`
`23:07.35`	`yacoob`	`(Snowcrash comes to mind :)`
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`23:07.47`	`RaydenUni`	`you simply use returns of functions to other functions`
`23:07.55`	`Aenslaed`	`everything else about the mod works, except for the debug messages which can't be turned off from the in game options`
`23:07.56`	`yacoob`	`Pkekyo, because + is a function, that takes 2 parameters`
`23:08.11`	`Pkekyo`	`RaydenUni: I'm too poorly skiled at maths to understand that :>`
`23:08.12`	`yacoob`	`Pkekyo, so (+ 2 3) = addtwonumbers(2,3)`
`23:08.24`	`RaydenUni`	`you don't know arithmetic?`
`23:08.27`	`Pkekyo`	`thanks, yacoob, that actually made a little sense`
`23:08.42`	`Pkekyo`	`RaydenUni: I'm just not very good at it...`
`23:08.44`	`ckknight`	`prefix notation can be...icky`
`23:08.45`	`yacoob`	`and ( ) gives you the result, so you can go (* 3 ()) which gives you 3 * x, where x is the output of the inner () :)`
`23:08.59`	`Speeddymon`	`i just want a dropdown that unhides stuff, in the same group when an option is selected.. unfortunately waterfall is good about not allowing you to do that`
`23:09.10`	`RaydenUni`	`if you haven't done much programming don't worry about functional languages`
`23:09.33`	`CIA-22`	`03thrae * r45546 10PerfectTargets/Libs/: PerfectTargets: Removed Libs external for 3.0.`
`23:09.44`	`Pkekyo`	`RaydenUni: I'm limited to webdevelopment in terms of html, css and a little php`
`23:09.54`	`RaydenUni`	`you should learn Ruby on Rails :)`
`23:10.06`	`yacoob`	`(if (and (>= pos (winstart val)) (<= pos (winstop val)) (mousable val)) (do-something-scary val))))`
`23:10.07`	`RaydenUni`	`http://tryruby.hobix.com/ <-- greatest little ruby introduction`
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`23:10.13`	`yacoob`	`noooo, not ruby! :D`
`23:10.20`	`RaydenUni`	`why not?`
`23:10.35`	`yacoob`	`dunno, have nothing against it 8)`
`23:10.40`	`Bejitt`	`:O`
`23:10.48`	`yacoob`	`it's a bit hyped nowadays, but most "cool" stuff is.`
`23:10.51`	`Bejitt`	`web-based ruby interpreter?`
`23:10.57`	`Pkekyo`	`err...I looked at some ruby stuff someone posted once...`
`23:10.59`	`RaydenUni`	`ruby is beautiful`
`23:11.06`	`Pkekyo`	`seemed ok`
`23:11.11`	`yacoob`	`Pkekyo, if you want to learn programming, Python would be good choice.`
`23:11.14`	`yacoob`	`or Lua.`
`23:11.15`	`RaydenUni`	`its beautiful`
`23:11.18`	`Pkekyo`	`but I simply don't have the attention span to do it x)`
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`23:11.27`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo that site i linked takes 10 minutes`
`23:11.30`	`RaydenUni`	`it's really easy`
`23:11.31`	`RaydenUni`	`gogo`
`23:11.47`	`Pkekyo`	`yeah, I've done that one before (probably due to your manipulation)`
`23:11.51`	`yacoob`	`Pkekyo, well, that's another problem, totaly perpendicular to the programming :D`
`23:11.52`	`RaydenUni`	`perhaps`
`23:11.55`	`RaydenUni`	`i told someone about it in here`
`23:12.22`	`yacoob`	`Bejitt, question is, does it take system() (or whatever it's called in Ruby) calls... 8)`
`23:12.36`	`RaydenUni`	`http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/quest_graph11_1.png <-- Pkekyo simple quest graph`
`23:12.37`	`Pkekyo`	`thing is....I've got too much to do...messing 'round with webdesign, school, drivers license, music and php >.< wtb more time`
`23:12.46`	`Xuerian`	`we`
`23:12.51`	`Xuerian`	`mt. >_<`
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`23:13.16`	`Pkekyo`	`RaydenUni: great concept :>`
`23:13.53`	`Pkekyo`	`anyone know how I can make Violation's background transparent?`
`23:14.06`	`ckknight`	`a lot of people say they know lua, but a few truly "grasp" it`
`23:14.11`	`ckknight`	`the intricacies of it and all`
`23:14.15`	`ckknight`	`even in this community, really`
`23:14.16`	`yacoob`	`zen of lua?`
`23:14.26`	`yacoob`	`or to become one, with The Interpreter`
`23:14.55`	`yacoob`	`ckknight, but seriously, does Lua has any "unique" concepts?`
`23:15.11`	`yacoob`	`like, "nowhere else can you find..." or perhaps just "it was first Lua, that introduced..."`
`23:15.16`	`ckknight`	`nothing is unique, everything is just lisp when you get down to it far enough`
`23:16.41`	`RaydenUni`	`yacoob not many languages these days are truly unique`
`23:16.53`	`RaydenUni`	`they are simply refined on what we've had`
`23:17.02`	`Pkekyo`	`tbh, they all are`
`23:17.13`	`Pkekyo`	`some more noticably than others...`
`23:17.21`	`RaydenUni`	`not to say all languages are the same`
`23:17.23`	`yacoob`	`RaydenUni, oh yes, but some are... noticeable :)`
`23:17.26`	`yacoob`	`Seen Malbolge? :D`
`23:17.30`	`RaydenUni`	`no`
`23:17.37`	`yacoob`	`grin`
`23:17.47`	`yacoob`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbolge`
`23:17.59`	`yacoob`	`it took 2 years to write first programme in Malbolge 8)`
`23:18.32`	`Pkekyo`	`for some reason I always feel really fucking stupid when you people get your pieholes started...`
`23:19.00`	`RaydenUni`	`oh right`
`23:19.03`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`how many languanges do you know support "closures"? ;p`
`23:19.03`	`RaydenUni`	`i think i've heard of it`
`23:19.15`	`RaydenUni`	`scheme does`
`23:19.17`	`ckknight`	`there's quite a few, NM\|Xinhuan`
`23:19.18`	`RaydenUni`	`ruby i think`
`23:19.25`	`RaydenUni`	`closures are cool`
`23:19.30`	`ckknight`	`Python does`
`23:19.35`	`yacoob`	`Perl does :)`
`23:19.36`	`ckknight`	`Boo does (and it's .NET)`
`23:19.43`	`Amadeo`	`and Minsc loves Boo`
`23:19.46`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`what about proper tail calls?`
`23:19.52`	`Pkekyo`	`WTB INT BUFF!!!!!!!!!!`
`23:19.56`	`RaydenUni`	`i would guess scheme does`
`23:20.02`	`RaydenUni`	`since lisp is so awesome`
`23:20.03`	`yacoob`	`fwoosh better, Pkekyo? :)`
`23:20.35`	`Pkekyo`	`WTB higher rank book for yacoob plx`
`23:20.35`	`Pkekyo`	`;>`
`23:20.35`	`yacoob`	`NM\|Xinhuan, what do you mean by 'proper tail calls'?`
`23:21.13`	`yacoob`	`I'd say it's not a feature of language, but rather of the actual implementation of language... unless you've meant something different`
`23:21.31`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`if you have a function do a "return g()", it doesn't add the new function call to the callstack - something like that`
`23:22.26`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`it just goes to the new function, remove the old function stack and reuses the same return address`
`23:22.44`	`yacoob`	`aha. So my opinion stays :)`
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`23:23.34`	`yacoob`	`yawn time to shutdown :>`
`23:23.54`	`Pkekyo`	`hmm...why won't CraftsList2 show all daggers I can make when someone query me !dagger?`
`23:24.11`	`ckknight`	`NM\|Xinhuan: many languages have that`
`23:24.13`	`Pkekyo`	`!craft dagger, even`
`23:24.23`	`ckknight`	`NM\|Xinhuan: even most frameworks (.NET, Java), but they might not be enabled by default`
`23:24.39`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`i wuldn't really know - i dont read documentation of every language deeply`
`23:24.41`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`hehe`
`23:24.55`	`ckknight`	`I do :-P`
`23:25.21`	`Speeddymon`	`nargiddley you still here?`
`23:25.24`	`ckknight`	`I wrote a JVM once, and I've coded in MSIL`
`23:25.34`	`NM\|Xinhuan`	`yes but you're crazy`
`23:25.40`	`ckknight`	`both require a bit of intimate knowledge`
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`23:25.44`	`ckknight`	`true`
`23:25.51`	`Nargiddley`	`Speeddymon, yeah ?`
`23:26.51`	`Speeddymon`	`could you take a look at http://pastebin.com/d298ee23e and let me know how I can do what i mention in the comments?`
`23:26.56`	`Pkekyo`	`WTB Athou!`
`23:27.15`	`Pkekyo`	`you here athou?`
`23:27.56`	`Pkekyo`	`meh :<`
`23:28.07`	`Nargiddley`	`hidden = function() return not not selected end, on every option you want to show when something is selected.`
`23:28.27`	`Speeddymon`	`no no i know that..`
`23:28.45`	`Speeddymon`	`im trying to get the checkmark to not appear in the list after i've reopened waterfall`
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`23:29.24`	`Speeddymon`	`the top part of the list that shows the last selection gets cleared, but not the checkmark in the list itself`
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`23:33.09`	`Pkekyo`	`cL2 is driving me insane :<`
`23:33.11`	`Nargiddley`	`try that`
`23:33.14`	`CIA-22`	`03nargiddley * r45547 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Clear value properly when a dropdown gets nil from its get function`
`23:34.00`	`Speeddymon`	`thx, ill post back in a min`
`23:34.26`	`CIA-22`	`03adirelle * r45548 10ThreatToKTM/ThreatToKTM.lua:`
`23:34.26`	`CIA-22`	`ThreatToKTM:`
`23:34.26`	`CIA-22`	`- some tweaks, hoping to fix target update and party display bugs.`
`23:37.28`	`Thrae`	`Anyone have a Wowace SVN-friendly TortoiseSVN config file they can pastey for me?`
`23:37.36`	`Thrae`	`Mine seems to have disappeared.`
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`23:38.07`	`Speeddymon`	`Nargiddley: that did it, thanks a million`
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`23:38.52`	`[dRaCo]`	`Nargiddley: posted my lil ideas from yesterday (remember?) in the thread. mind looking at em? ;)`
`23:38.53`	`Pkekyo`	`~modernman`
`23:38.53`	`purl`	`somebody said modernman was George Carlin - http://www.futurehi.net/archives/000548.html`
`23:39.09`	`Pkekyo`	`~IRC`
`23:39.09`	`purl`	`rumour has it, irc is Internet Relay Chat or a massive time sink, or eternally the cyber land of the rising sun`
`23:39.33`	`Nargiddley`	`[dRaCo], i've had a look`
`23:39.45`	`Pkekyo`	`purl, IRC is Multiplayer Notepad - also known as Internet Relay Chat or a massive time sink, or eternally the cyber land of the rising sun`
`23:39.46`	`purl`	`...but irc is already something else...`
`23:39.56`	`[dRaCo]`	`oh, great. thx.`
`23:40.00`	`Thrae`	`Pkekyo: purl, no IRC is`
`23:40.14`	`Pkekyo`	`purl, no IRC is Multiplayer Notepad - also known as Internet Relay Chat or a massive time sink, or eternally the cyber land of the rising sun`
`23:40.14`	`purl`	`Pkekyo: okay`
`23:40.17`	`Nargiddley`	`[dRaCo], the bg color i'll get in soon, thanks for reminding me about it`
`23:40.18`	`Mudkips`	`gosh I'm so bored`
`23:40.19`	`Pkekyo`	`thrae: thanks`
`23:40.21`	`Mudkips`	`I think I might read a book`
`23:40.32`	`Pkekyo`	`hmm...I just thanked a bot, didn't I?`
`23:40.34`	`Nargiddley`	`[dRaCo], the extra buttons i'm working on something but it wont be ready for a bit`
`23:40.37`	`Pkekyo`	`lmao, I need some sleep`
`23:40.42`	`Thrae`	`Pkekyo: ThraeBot is the bot.`
`23:40.56`	`Pkekyo`	`why is the bot talking to me all the time? /flee`
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`23:41.15`	`Pkekyo`	`Mikk, you here?`
`23:41.21`	`*** join/#wowace Shirik (n=nospam@207-172-237-19.c3-0.eas-ubr5.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com)`
`23:41.26`	`Pkekyo`	`~seen Mikk`
`23:41.29`	`purl`	`mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 11h 47m 57s ago, saying: 'wow bootloader .. muaha'.`
`23:41.34`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ`
`23:41.58`	`[dRaCo]`	`Nargiddley: great anyway, glad to hear I'm not the only one having those ideas ;)`
`23:42.27`	`Amadeo`	`BitchX, haven't seen that in a while`
`23:43.19`	`Pkekyo`	`anyone got an idea how I can make the background panel of Violation transparent?`
`23:43.24`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`yeah, well some people have trouble getting out of the 80's ;)`
`23:43.36`	`Amadeo`	`hahah`
`23:43.45`	`[dRaCo]`	`Pkekyo: hack the source code!`
`23:43.46`	`Pkekyo`	`'80s ftw`
`23:44.05`	`Pkekyo`	`[dRaCo]: thing is: I wouldn't know what to look for...`
`23:44.30`	`[dRaCo]`	`frame creation`
`23:44.53`	`[dRaCo]`	`GetMouseFocus():GetName() or something like that if you need the name`
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`23:45.47`	`Pkekyo`	`btw, is there some way in WAU to "lock" an addon so it won't get updated? (thinking 'bout not getting customized addons fuckedup)`
`23:46.24`	`Pkekyo`	`[dRaCo]: would I be looking in the .lua file?`
`23:46.38`	`[dRaCo]`	`yes`
`23:46.46`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`I think wau ignores addons that have been checked out of subversion, so you could do that if you plan on customizing an addon`
`23:46.48`	`CIA-22`	`03pettigrow * r45549 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Council.lua Najentus.lua Souls.lua): BigWigs: BlackTemple: frFR Update`
`23:46.57`	`Ominous`	`wau has an ignore option now`
`23:47.33`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`well, either way. if you're going to customize without committing, checking out of subversion is a good idea, so you can update to get the latest changes from the repo.`
`23:48.21`	`Pkekyo`	`NightHawkAtWork: subversion?`
`23:48.31`	`[dRaCo]`	`Pkekyo: but that advise capped my knowledge about lua ;)`
`23:48.35`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:48.56`	`Pkekyo`	`you lost me`
`23:49.12`	`kergoth`	`~svn`
`23:49.13`	`purl`	`hmm... subversion is version control software. see http://subversion.tigris.org/ it aims to be a better CVS than CVS.`
`23:49.14`	`kergoth`	`~scm`
`23:49.14`	`purl`	`hmm... scm is SimpleChatMods, a suite of crappy chat addons bundled as one, available on wowace.com`
`23:49.17`	`kergoth`	`bah`
`23:49.24`	`kergoth`	`that should be software configuration management.`
`23:49.34`	`kergoth`	`~cm`
`23:49.35`	`purl`	`well, cm is Cameroon. Configuration Management`
`23:49.46`	`[dRaCo]`	`Pkekyo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversion_(software)`
`23:49.53`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`wise and crazy kergoth teach us yoru scm ways!`
`23:50.03`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`23:50.08`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`s/ru/ur/`
`23:50.33`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`~bow kergoth`
`23:50.33`	`Pkekyo`	`I'm still at a loss here...`
`23:50.37`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`hmm.`
`23:50.41`	`kergoth`	`i finally figured out how to do a relatively sane expansion of $Revision$ in my git based set.. i wrote filter scripts that use the "number of commits since the most recent tag" number from 'git describe'`
`23:50.49`	`Thrae`	`kergoth: You use irssi, right?`
`23:51.01`	`Pkekyo`	`[dRaCo]: what did you mean by that GetMouseFocus():GetName() thing?`
`23:51.02`	`Thorgard`	`irssi <3`
`23:51.21`	`kergoth`	`it varies, sometimes i use xchat/xchat-gnome, other times irssi.. all connect thorugh an irc proxy (bip)`
`23:51.46`	`Amadeo`	`how does xchat differ from xchat-gnome?`
`23:51.49`	`[dRaCo]`	`Pkekyo: you can try to find the name of the violation frame using that snippet. then, search the source code for that name`
`23:51.57`	`kergoth`	`nicer than irssi in screen imo, since a remote screen you'll see latency in your typing, whereas a local client will not have that typing latency, only latency after hitting enter`
`23:51.58`	`Thrae`	`With many so channels in the same split window, I finally resolved to just doing /msg #channel instead of changing the active channel`
`23:52.09`	`Pkekyo`	`[dRaCo]: yeah, I got that...but exactly how? (I'm a nabcake)`
`23:52.34`	`Pkekyo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:52.40`	`Thrae`	`kergoth: With both QoS and ToS I usually don't notice the latency`
`23:52.57`	`Xuerian`	`Aaagh T_T`
`23:53.05`	`[dRaCo]`	`Pkekyo: mouseover the violation frame, type /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()`
`23:53.09`	`Xuerian`	`1% wipe on black morass end boss. (100hp).`
`23:53.22`	`[dRaCo]`	`there is something like /print in lua, isnt it?`
`23:53.33`	`Pkekyo`	`[dRaCo]: "nil" was the reply`
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`23:54.02`	`orange\`	`anyone here use click2cast?`
`23:54.20`	`orange\`	`for some reason, /use medallion of the horde macro will not work`
`23:54.27`	`Thrae`	`[dRaCo]: print("foo") for stock Lua, YourAddon:Msg("foo") for Ace2 addons, DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("foo") directly`
`23:54.38`	`[dRaCo]`	`Pkekyo: I'm pretty much flying blind here, check wowwiki for the exact function names.`
`23:54.40`	`CIA-22`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r45550 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - add note to :GetUID() about it being unsafe across sessions.`
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`23:55.00`	`RaydenUni`	`Pkekyo updated http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/quest_graph1.png`
`23:55.06`	`orange\`	`anyone maybe have a clue?`
`23:55.25`	`[dRaCo]`	`thrae: so echoing the frame's name you mouseover would be /DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName())?`
`23:55.33`	`Amadeo`	`RaydenUni: Is that a Dragon Warrior list?`
`23:55.44`	`RaydenUni`	`Amadeo mock quest log for a zone`
`23:55.47`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`23:55.49`	`NightHawkAtWork`	`[dRaCo]: /dump should work, yeah?`
`23:55.54`	`RaydenUni`	`i'm writing something up on how to make zones better`
`23:55.54`	`[dRaCo]`	`oh, yeah.`
`23:55.59`	`Pkekyo`	`RaydenUni: looks good...but I don't like blobs and goo :<`
`23:56.06`	`Amadeo`	`A slime appears!`
`23:56.06`	`RaydenUni`	`i think all the quests should be part of a mini story`
`23:56.10`	`[dRaCo]`	`but is /dump regular wow lua?`
`23:56.12`	`Thrae`	`[dRaCo]: Yes, but if it's nil, put it around tostring(value)`
`23:56.18`	`RaydenUni`	`eh, blob and goo is rather generic`
`23:56.35`	`[dRaCo]`	`shouldnt be nil when hovering a frame...`
`23:57.38`	`NeoTron`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:57.43`	`[dRaCo]`	`orange\: tried using the slot id?`
`23:58.08`	`orange\`	`./use 14`
`23:58.10`	`orange\`	`ya`
`23:58.28`	`[dRaCo]`	`does that work?`
`23:58.39`	`orange\`	`nope`
`23:58.49`	`orange\`	`maybe a bug in click2cast`
`23:58.58`	`orange\`	`cuz i can create a in game macro, and it will work`
`23:59.24`	`RaydenUni`	`blast. now it's time to proof read what i wrote`
`23:59.26`	`RaydenUni`	`i hate doing that`
`23:59.41`	`orange\`	`cuz i wanted to activate the trinket, by using the middle mouse button`
`23:59.43`	`orange\`	`spells work`
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`23:59.56`	`[dRaCo]`	`DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(tostring(GetMouseFocus():GetName())) looks... messy.`

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