IRC log for #wowace on 20070725

00:00.25break19yea.. but if I go on vacation now, I'll come back and my house will be sold :p
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00:02.06break19i told my dispatcher that she.. uh.. couldnt dispatch her way out of a wet paper bag, and that I wasnt her hunny or baby, and that she's a effing idiot, and we all think she's high as a kite for some of the stupid stuff she tries to pull... etc etc
00:02.20break19needless to say.. that was my 2 minute notification that I quit
00:02.59AmadeoThat sounds as professional as she may have been :P
00:03.01break19and the terminal manager was right there when I told her off, he opened his mouth to speak, and I said "dont even.. you dont want me going there.. im done.. cya"
00:03.10kaidenyou should come tell my boss that break19 ;p
00:03.15break19lol
00:03.55break19i mean.. she used 3rd party companies to haul loads that *I* could have hauled... that hurts my paycheck
00:04.45break19and to top it off, I've had to wait for those same 3rd party trucks to unload.. sometimes 2 hrs
00:05.26break19at $40 a load, I need 4 to 5 a day.. I was getting 2-3.. if I was lucky
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00:07.23break19oh well. enough rantin' and ravin' - time to ask some topic-specific questions
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00:08.00break19my addon currently monitors the 'combo points gained' event, and if I have 5 deadly poisons and 5 combo points, it sends a message to soar.
00:09.17break19only, its not always sending it.. I'm thinking of changing it to player_aura_changed to instead monitor for poison applications.. but how would that affect cpu usage
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00:10.08break19and, I'm hopin that once I get the work done about checkin for # of deadly poisons, that ck will want to include it in parrot, so I can actually go play....
00:10.14break19... like that'll happen. lol
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00:15.20AmadeoI still need someone to spec me out a Paladin to duo with a Mage :)
00:15.46Diaopvp?
00:15.55AmadeoWell, starting at level 1 :)
00:16.01Amadeohave to level up first!
00:16.06Diaooh
00:16.15Diaoi'd probably level either prot or holy in that case
00:16.18Diaoso you can tank while mage aoes
00:16.47Amadeohm
00:16.56Amadeowhat level can Mages AOE?
00:17.27Diaolike
00:17.53Diao14?
00:18.00Diaosomething like that
00:18.05Amadeoyeah? for Blizzard or whatever?
00:18.45Diaoarcane explosion
00:18.46Diaolol
00:19.00AmadeoI don't know if that will help much, doesn't it use a ton of mana?
00:19.51Diaowell you probably wouldn't start aoe grinding until like 30
00:20.05Diaoif the mage goes full fire spec
00:20.09Diaohe can get blastwave
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00:22.19AmadeoI think Blizzard is what people use to AoE grind with, isn't it?
00:22.48Diaoblizzard is safe
00:22.49Diaobut slow
00:22.52QQngskflamestrike, AE, blizzard, they're all good for different things
00:23.00Diaofiremages grind
00:23.04Diaogather up a bunch of mobs
00:23.06Diaofrost nova
00:23.10AmadeoQQngsk: I need to level up with a Mage, as a Paladin!
00:23.13Diaoflamestrike, blastwave, ae, ae, ae, ae
00:23.25Diaomobs die very quick
00:23.27Diaobut
00:23.34Diaothey need to drink after each group of mobs
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00:40.59WobinThat works well
00:41.04Wobinif you have the latency and twitch to pull it off =)
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00:46.12WobinKemayo: I'm getting permission errors on babblelod.sh again...
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00:55.14Poul|RaiderAnyone who for some reason know the api for toggle background sound "enable sound in background" from sound option :)
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01:01.36NimbleRabitwell my entire guild just switched to omen
01:02.09Gngskincoming horror story!
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01:10.22AmadeoWhat are the most notable PvP servers you guys can think of, any timezone?
01:10.51GngskKorgath
01:11.27KeiasHe said PVP not PVE
01:11.37NimbleRabithmm has anyone ever had a problem
01:11.39Gngskkorgath is pvp
01:11.39Amadeolol
01:11.42NimbleRabitwhere they can't click any abilities except 1 or 2
01:11.50KeiasWell I assumed he meant PVP servers that were known for PVP
01:11.51AmadeoI think he means because people know Korgath as PvE
01:11.51NimbleRabitwell they can click them, but the abilities don't activate
01:12.00AmadeoLike DnT
01:12.06KeiasYeah, blame DnT
01:12.10Gngskthere's more than DnT on korgath
01:12.17AmadeoYeah, but I don't follow uber-anythings
01:12.18KeiasNot to the rest of us!
01:12.25AmadeoPeople just mention DnT and that's why I know the name
01:12.26KeiasOverrated, Drama, ect
01:12.29GngskI recently transfered to their battlegroup
01:12.31KeiasYeah, pretty much
01:12.32Gngskso I see 'em all day long
01:12.36AmadeoOh, I know of Fires of Heaven from EQ also, that's about it
01:12.43KeiasBloodlust battlegroup ftw
01:12.47AmadeoWhat server are you on, Gngsk?
01:13.16AmadeoI have chars on Akama, same battlegroup I think
01:13.25GngskRunetotem
01:13.28Gngskyeah, vengeance
01:13.49AmadeoI'm Akeru, NE Warrior with crappy gear :P
01:14.00Amadeonow I'm gonna find another server and make a Paladin
01:14.01fireglowanyone got a list for all the text variables for pitbull?
01:14.16AmadeoKnow anything about the Arthas server?
01:14.21Gngsknah
01:14.25KeiasToo much about Arthas
01:14.32Amadeobad or good?
01:14.42KeiasBad for the past year
01:14.45Amadeo:(
01:14.46KeiasPrior to that, amazing
01:14.50AmadeoWhat happened?
01:14.51KeiasThen they all left to Mal'ganis
01:14.58Amadeohm
01:15.04KeiasA good thousand or so players
01:15.08AmadeoThat's what Antiarc meant by Mal'Goonis I think :P
01:15.13KeiasWell
01:15.17KeiasIt's called Mal'goonis
01:15.24KeiasCaus eit was overran with the Something Aweful forum goons
01:15.28Amadeoahh
01:15.31AntiarcIt's called Mal'goonis because the Something Awful Goons made their home there
01:15.34AntiarcAnd basically own the server
01:15.35KeiasGoon Squad had like 800 members at one point
01:15.37Amadeohahah
01:15.41Amadeooh god
01:15.48KeiasThey actually broke the guild system
01:15.51Keiasand had to split into two guilds
01:16.00KeiasGets all buggy after 500 or so people
01:16.06AmadeoKeias: So what are some good EST PvP servers, or CST if I have to :P
01:16.14KeiasIllidan is still really good
01:16.17KeiasCho'gall also
01:16.57Amadeogimmie more names! I have to look em up on WarcraftRealms
01:17.12KeiasJust check out the arena ladder on the WoW armory site
01:17.19KeiasYou'll see who boasts the highest rated teams
01:17.33AmadeoI never know what battlegroup to look in
01:17.42KemayoWobin: Do you have the specific error?
01:18.01KeiasThere's not many battlegroups to go through
01:18.03AmadeoCho'Gall looks dead on WarcraftRealms
01:18.49WobinKemayo: just a INFO     Upgrading Babble-2.2 from 44552 to 44730
01:18.49Wobinsh: ./babblelod.sh: Permission denied
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01:20.20Amadeopicking servers is a pain :P
01:20.26vhaarryeah, some of the files in some zips are stored with 0 permission flags
01:20.37vhaarrmakes for a very, very annoying experience on linux
01:20.51vhaarr(unless you use the svn, of course, which you should be doing, since you're a developer)
01:20.52vhaarrnub!
01:21.04Gngskponed
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01:22.21Kemayovhaarr: Not actually the problem, in this case.  I correct for that, I do.
01:22.43Kemayo(Though it's possible I'm not correcting correctly, as it were.)
01:22.46vhaarrKemayo: Understand you not I do.
01:23.12KemayoWobin: Okay, problem is: you're running with -s, and the script doesn't have executable permissions.
01:23.35vhaarrah, it's your python script thingy
01:24.00vhaarryeah, I haven't tried it -- I'm just speaking from experience when downloading and repackaging BigWigs files.wowace.com ZIPs for release
01:24.24vhaarrsometimes they have 000 permissions, which, if I was a regular user, would annoy me a lot
01:25.18Dustwhisper|DPS discussions with people are so annoying
01:25.40vhaarrlike "my mage can do more DPS than your hunter" kind of discussions?
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01:26.14Dustwhisper|no
01:26.17Dustwhisper|theorycraft by retards
01:26.18Dustwhisper|and blaming
01:26.31mjckergoth: linky .git again?
01:26.41Dustwhisper|my GM and someone else is telling me im useless and that the only reason i outdpsd everyone by 120k on Leotheras
01:26.44Dustwhisper|was cause i got 1 inervate
01:27.02Dustwhisper|and they think that you should go for crit instead of hit at 95% hitrating
01:27.02mjcheh
01:27.12mjcfuck'em
01:28.06ArrowmasterDustwhisper|: class?
01:28.38Dustwhisper|im a mage
01:28.44mjcArrowmaster: even if it's true that's an asshole way to say it
01:29.08Arrowmasterdo you really have enough spirit that an inervate would do much?
01:29.18Dustwhisper|180 spirit
01:29.21Arrowmasterso no
01:29.27Dustwhisper|143 manaregen
01:29.35Dustwhisper|while not casting
01:29.38mjcso no
01:29.40Dustwhisper|so 143 * 20 i guess
01:29.46Dustwhisper|and of course that i had shadowpriest
01:29.51Dustwhisper|and some mages/locks did not
01:29.56Arrowmastergot eye of mag trinket?
01:29.57Dustwhisper|and that i did so much dmg on the adds beforehand
01:30.00Dustwhisper|yes but i don't use it
01:30.10Dustwhisper|i use icon of the silver crescent + darkmoon card crusade
01:30.15Dustwhisper|oh yea
01:30.19Dustwhisper|did i mentioned i died at 9%
01:30.23Dustwhisper|and still was 70k on top
01:30.23Arrowmasterlol
01:30.35Dustwhisper|i was 120k infront til 9%
01:31.03fireglowwouldnt it be great when all the Libs's folders would begin with Lib_ ?
01:31.10fireglowi'd love that! :D
01:31.18starlonDoes Recount sync data?
01:31.21Arrowmasterunless your arcane and have the increased crit damage talent and either the frost one or ignite i wouldnt even consider crit before 99% hit
01:31.34Dustwhisper|of course im a deep fire variant
01:32.10vhaarrDustwhisper|: heh, with 180 spirit, giving you an innervate is a total waste
01:32.16vhaarrit'd be like what
01:32.17vhaarr1k mana
01:32.33Arrowmasterwe had a mage get innervated last morogrim kill
01:32.33vhaarrif you're casting while the innervate runs
01:32.40Dustwhisper|it's 100% mana regen for 20 seconds which should be around 2600 or so mana for me
01:32.41Dustwhisper|i think
01:32.54vhaarr180 spirit? dream on
01:33.04vhaarr180 / 4 = 45
01:33.06Dustwhisper|ah ye
01:33.08vhaarr+ what, the base
01:33.08vhaarr12
01:33.11vhaarrso 57
01:33.18vhaarris your full mana regen
01:33.41vhaarrand innervate lasts 20 seconds?
01:33.49vhaarrso 57 * 20 = 1140
01:34.02mjcassuming you are not in casting timer
01:34.07vhaarrright
01:34.09vhaarrno
01:34.16vhaarrmjc: innervate gives you 100% mana regen while casting
01:34.26vhaarrif he's NOT casting, you can multiply 1140 by 4
01:34.28mjcah
01:34.54vhaarrso giving you an innervate is the same as giving you a level 55 mana potion
01:35.02vhaarrworse, even
01:35.09vhaarrthat druid should be kicked in the nuts imo
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01:38.12Dustwhisper|wtf
01:38.14Dustwhisper|i just tested inervate
01:38.16Dustwhisper|on me
01:38.20Dustwhisper|and i got ovver 3k mana back
01:38.24Dustwhisper|does it matter if i dont cast at all?
01:38.29vhaarrof course it does
01:39.15vhaarr1. use mana, 2. wait 5 seconds, 3. innervate = you should gain ~4500 mana
01:39.38vhaarr1. use mana, 2. innervate - but continune casting while the innervate runs = you should gain 1140 mana
01:40.03vhaarrOTOH
01:40.18Dustwhisper|ok cool
01:40.20Dustwhisper|is a duel okay?
01:40.28Dustwhisper|i tshould be i guess =D
01:40.31ccKephttp://www.wowwiki.com/Innervate
01:40.34ccKepTo get the most out of Innervate when casting on yourself, use it at a time in which you will be casting spells for the next twenty seconds. This is best, because your regeneration will not be subject to the five second rule while Innervate is active.
01:40.39Poul|Raider03:26 <Dustwhisper|> my GM and someone else is telling me im useless and that the only reason i outdpsd everyone by 120k on Leotheras - now that fight dont realy have much to do about dps, they might be right if you won the dmg and at the same time pulled leo around getting everyone hit by ww ::) but if you outdmg everyon as a mage, lol the others tbh
01:40.49ccKep-> 100% mana regeneration while casting = no FSR
01:41.40Dustwhisper|FSR ?
01:41.43vhaarrright, then I was wrong
01:41.44ccKepfive-second-rule
01:41.54Dustwhisper|so casting all the time then?
01:42.05NightHawkTheSaneit doesn't matter.
01:42.10NightHawkTheSanefor innervate at least
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01:42.16ccKepcasting all the time get the most out of it
01:42.29ccKepbut thats not neccessary most of the time ;)
01:42.50Arrowmasterwe use innervate, bloodlust, mana tide, drums of battle, and other such things when our mages are making water
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01:43.06ccKeplol
01:43.07NightHawkTheSanewell, you'll get the same from innervate regardless of whether your casting. It's just that casting is usually more productive and doesn't hurt anything. :)
01:43.32Arrowmasterthey tripple innervated a mage at the start of kara today
01:44.07Neeblerthats why you should never generalize on vent
01:44.29Arrowmasterno they did it on purpose
01:44.53Arrowmasterinnverate stacks
01:45.03ccKepdoes spell haste armor reduce the casting time of water? :>
01:45.10Arrowmasteryes
01:45.13ccKepWooT
01:45.21ccKepneed BT lootz ^.^
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01:49.22Prophhany mods that will filter out the "not enuff rage" or "not enuff energy" messages?
01:49.40vhaarrerrormonster
01:50.05mjckergoth: pinging
01:50.58break19ckknight: something aint right... Im getting +1020 when I do first aid.. it should only be 510
01:51.08break19wrt parrot
01:51.16AntiarcIt's because of the grouping
01:51.24AntiarcChange your event grouping granularity
01:51.36ckknightthrottling
01:52.13kebinusanbleh I have some mod that seems to be tainting the raid panel I cant even bring it up in combat but I get no errors
01:52.55kebinusanactually I cant bring up any blizzard menus in combat
01:53.28kebinusanhmm no just not the escape menu and raid panel I guess, damnit
01:53.34break19hmm
01:53.49kebinusanis there any easy way to look for what could do it aside from disablign half my addons
01:54.07mjcthere are taintcheckers
01:55.16kebinusanis there one on the svn?
01:55.54mjca few
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02:05.25CIA-2203roartindon * r44767 10Aloft/AloftTags.rtf:
02:05.25CIA-22Aloft
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02:15.41Ewalnewb question alert: in WoW UI XML, is there such a concept as a parent frame that will clip the drawing of its children at its boundaries?
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02:23.50NimbleRabitdoes threat-1.0 work correctly on void reaver?  My guild is using ktm just for VR because somebody claimed omen wouldn't work
02:26.33durcynsomeone's full of shit then
02:26.37CIA-2203gagorian * r44769 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua:
02:26.37CIA-22DrDamage:
02:26.37CIA-22- Small addition to last commit
02:26.41Kaydeethreeassuming it's using 0.75 for the knockback (it is, iirc), it should work as accurately as ktm does
02:26.48durcynonly fight i've seen threat go wobbly on is Supremus
02:27.40AntiarcNimbleRabit: Threat handles it fine
02:28.40durcynbut that's mostly do to the silly tank using KTM
02:28.47durcyn~seen Roartindon
02:28.50purlroartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-76-247.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 1h 14m 35s ago, saying: 'Vulpes: thanks :)'.
02:33.16Arrowmasterand unless all the tanks have 20.x versions of ktm, ktm wont work correctly on void reaver afaik
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03:30.45ComxxAntiarc you there ?
03:38.50AntiarcKinda
03:38.51AntiarcIn Kara
03:39.35NimbleRabitso antiarc my guild uses omen now, they are all loving it
03:39.38NimbleRabitthanks for such a great mod
03:40.55fireglow:)
03:41.01NightHawkTheSane"Earth, steaks, there's a difference?"
03:43.52AntiarcGlad they like it :)
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04:03.19ThraeWhoever was talking about using 'goto's in C/C++, here's what really happens -- http://www.xkcd.com/292/
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04:04.15NightHawkTheSaneLO
04:04.17NightHawkTheSaneer,:P
04:05.02Thraehttp://www.xkcd.com/293/ <-- always read the documentation first
04:06.43hastejust found xkcd :p ?
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04:16.49NimbleRabitxkcd is so funny
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04:43.16Antiarcckknight: Poisoning a poison-immune target with Shiv shows the poison icon and the shiv damage
04:43.50AntiarcIn parrot
04:44.17ckknightthey should get shiv-proof vests
04:44.24ckknightthey have them in quite a few prisons now
04:45.28ckknightin reality, it should've gotten the icon from the abilityName used
04:45.39AntiarcHrm
04:45.43AntiarcI'll see if I can screencap it
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04:50.57ckknightthe parser event would be more useful
04:51.10ckknightor the list of args passed into :ShowMessage
04:56.22[Liquidor]ckknight
04:56.29[Liquidor]we got a nerd in EU: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304221370&sid=1
04:56.51[Liquidor]"For anyone that remembers to topic I said my 120 consistant playing of WoW begins today. "
04:57.17ckknight...lol
04:58.04ckknight5 days straight?
04:58.06ckknightit's doable.
04:58.35NightHawkTheSanefar from sane, though. o_0
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04:59.23WobinAnd you would know!
04:59.45[Liquidor]Heh
05:00.23ckknightplease
05:00.24NightHawkTheSaneWobin: indeed.
05:00.26ckknightI stayed awake for 6 weeks, relying on 22-minute power naps every 4 hours
05:00.33[Liquidor]Haha people are already making fun of the post: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304261896&sid=1
05:00.50[Liquidor]ckknight, what for?
05:01.01NightHawkTheSaneThis nick isn't just an eccentric title! It's a fully certified license to judge your sanity. *nod*. :P
05:01.04ckknightfor efficiency!
05:01.13ckknightI did it with my roommate
05:01.22ckknighthe crashed
05:01.29ckknightand it didn't work with just me doing it
05:01.31ckknightso I stopped
05:01.51ckknightalso, they shut internet off from 1 am to 6 am at the school I was at then
05:02.27ckknightwhich was a very boring time
05:02.32ckknightdid a lot of coding, though
05:02.36spathithe espn zone here runs a couch potato contest every year
05:02.49spathithe winner usually lasts about 40 hours
05:03.12ckknightalso, no drugs or anything
05:03.15Knaledgeck do you ever find yourself testing against a local server?
05:03.19Arrowmastercouch potato contest?
05:03.25ckknightKnaledge: no?
05:03.29Knaledgejust curious
05:03.38[Liquidor]ckknight, do you like pie?
05:03.49Knaledgeyeah yeah it seems arbitrary
05:03.50spathithe contestants have to watch tv non-stop, they get bathroom breaks and eye breaks every hour or two
05:03.51ckknightyea, depends on the type, though
05:03.54[Liquidor]just curious
05:04.07Knaledgebut I was just thinking maybe sometimes a dev of an addon might not have access to WoW or the internet
05:04.23ckknightI wasn't coding for wowace then
05:04.23Arrowmasterspathi: do they have a choice on what they watch?
05:04.24Knaledgeso they run a local of WoW and realmlist into that
05:04.25[Liquidor]spathi, 40 hours? hah I can beat that
05:04.34spathinope they have to watch espn
05:04.39Arrowmasteroh bah
05:04.43spathiso its about 20 hours of poker
05:04.44Arrowmasteri wouldnt last 5 minutes
05:04.51ckknightKnaledge: no, never done that
05:04.58[Liquidor]What's espn?
05:05.03[Liquidor]some drama crap channel?
05:05.08[Liquidor]Ricki Lake etc?
05:05.15Arrowmastersports
05:05.16spathisports channel
05:05.19[Liquidor]or is it Ricky? whatever
05:05.20[Liquidor]kk
05:05.35[Liquidor]You categorize Poker as sport in US?
05:05.49spathilol i dont, but espn does
05:06.12Arrowmasteri once spent a summer break only sleeping once every week
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05:06.30[Liquidor]I once slept over 2 nights and 3 days
05:06.38spathiyou can find poker on about 5 or 6 channels during a given a week
05:06.40[Liquidor]got tired again after 5 hours
05:06.45Arrowmasterlol
05:07.02NightHawkTheSanegrawrrsdfsdf
05:07.02[Liquidor]sleeping makes you sleepy
05:07.20Arrowmasterit dose
05:07.34Arrowmasterif you sleep too long you get tired sooner
05:07.49spathithere's a disease where people just sleep like 20 hours a day
05:07.53Megalonif you sleep too long, the CO2 concentration in your blood begins to go up
05:07.59Wobinhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/ladyyatexel/harry_potter.jpg
05:08.01Wobinwin
05:08.02Megalonand that makes you feel .. sleepy
05:08.03[Liquidor]they force powernaps in some companies in Chn of 10 mins each 4th hour or so
05:08.15WobinPS not a spoiler for HP7 but possibly one for HP1
05:08.57Arrowmasterrofl thats awesome wobin
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05:09.15NightHawkTheSaneWobin: lol
05:09.53ckknightlol, Wobin
05:09.56ckknightitt's so true
05:09.56ckknightit*
05:10.15WobinI love how the final line is the only thing that's unaltered =)
05:10.36Megalonhrhr wobin, that text = win
05:10.46Arrowmasteris the final line true?
05:10.50Wobinyep
05:10.52Arrowmasterlol
05:11.14[Liquidor]http://martinaquino.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/teenage-girl-kills-herself-over-fake-spoilers-of-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows/
05:11.37Thrae!t http://martinaquino.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/teenage-girl-kills-herself-over-fake-spoilers-of-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows/
05:11.39ThraeBotThrae: http://tinyurl.com/ynnqhx
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05:13.21Megalonnow that this harry potter thing is over
05:13.30Megalonit's time for emma watson's first porn
05:13.38[Liquidor]heh
05:13.48Megalonor at least a leaked one :P
05:14.14[Liquidor]Thrae, do you have a list of commands for your bot somewhere?
05:14.33Thrae[Liquidor]: /msg ThraeBot help
05:14.50[Liquidor]gah not identified
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05:21.19Speeddymon...nterface\AddOns\Ace2\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua line 487:   AceLocale(SmartQueue): Translation "Only autojoin to a Battle Field if you are not already queued for it" does not exist.
05:21.25SpeeddymonAny chance of getting that fixed?
05:33.44Arrowmasterdont think the smartqueue author is in here
05:34.23[Liquidor]nn folks
05:35.43ckknightwhy are people so uppity about Asians eating dog?
05:36.03ckknightit's just like any other animal to eat
05:36.29KeiasCause they're domesticated
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05:36.50Arrowmasterso are most farm animals
05:36.53ckknightcows are domesticated?
05:36.59ckknightthey taste real good
05:37.13KeiasWell, I haven't seen anyone with a cow pet
05:37.17Megalonthey are cuty when they are puppies ;S
05:37.22ckknightpigs, then
05:37.29ckknightneighbor across the street has a pet pig
05:37.33KeiasStill haven't seen a pet pig myself :P
05:37.37ckknightI still have no issue eating pig
05:37.53ckknightI could eat dog, it's just that they're not raised for food in this country, and thus would be too expensive to buy and thus not worth it
05:37.54Arrowmasterlots of FFA kids have farm animal pets
05:37.56KeiasI don't personally care either way as for people who whine about dogs being used as food
05:38.13ckknightMegalon: they're all cute when they're young
05:38.28KeiasIf something is bred to be food, then that's all that matters imo
05:41.36RogueShadowI've seen somebody with a cow pet
05:43.08CIA-2203adirelle * r44772 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
05:43.08CIA-22SimpleSelfRebuff:
05:43.08CIA-22- should unbind current buff when entering stealth or getting mounted (if that buff is not mount/stealth-friendly),
05:43.08CIA-22- should properly remind multiplie missing buffs.
05:43.33kebinusanYes its good to have a pet you can appreciate after it dies.. My chinchillas made the best slippers
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05:48.39RogueShadowmm.. slippers
05:49.55deltronlol
05:55.51CIA-2203toadkiller * r44773 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
05:55.51CIA-22PeriodicTable-3.0:
05:55.51CIA-22-- 33042:7200 Black Coffee, Buttered Trout & Fishermans Feast
05:55.51CIA-22-- More Quest Items
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05:58.25CIA-2203ckknight * r44774 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - for _ = 1, 1 do ... end => repeat ... until true.
05:58.36ckknightAntiarc: ^---
05:58.48ckknightit's cleaner
05:58.55AntiarcWorks for me
06:00.46ckknightsomeone was bitching about it on the KTM thread
06:00.54ckknightand I realized that that way was cleaner
06:03.23Arrowmasterwait does that actually repeat?
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06:06.33ckknightno, it's basically a one-shot thing that you can break from
06:06.44ckknightit basically creates a cleanup goto statement
06:07.25Arrowmastercould you do the same with do ... end?
06:07.55ckknightno
06:08.00ckknightbecause break wouldn't work
06:10.13ckknightbasically, it's used in Threat-1.0 to tell whether or not it should be running, which depends on a multitude of factors
06:10.48ckknightwithout the break, it'd need about 6 if-else statements bundled within one another with huge indentation evilness
06:10.53ckknightthe break makes it simple
06:10.58ArrowmasterThreatLib:PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is confusing should rename it
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06:11.29ckknight...?
06:12.09Arrowmasterits confusing that its named PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD has 3 events registered to it
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06:12.31Arrowmasterthat dont have to do with entering the world
06:13.55CIA-2203ckknight * r44775 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - remove the repeat freakiness as I figured out a cleaner way.
06:14.02Arrowmasteri dont see how that couldnt be done with an if then elseif else
06:14.06ckknight1 event is PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
06:14.13ckknightArrowmaster: hush, you
06:14.15Arrowmasterhaha
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06:14.58Arrowmasterwait i see a possible bug
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06:19.09Arrowmasteryour damn logic is confusing, too many not's
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06:20.18Speeddymonwhat is the smartqueue author's nick?
06:20.27Antiar1check the TOC
06:20.51Speeddymonnot every author uses their game name on irc
06:21.22Antiar1Most authors use their IRC/forum nick in the TOCs
06:21.41Arrowmasterwtf why are you registering PLAYER_LOGIN on AceEvent_FullyInitialized
06:21.58FinI, for instance, am more commonly known as ckknight
06:22.05ckknightNO U
06:22.19FinI only choose to go by the alias "Fin" on IRC to avoid my users!
06:22.27Finmwahaha! if only they knew!
06:22.27ckknightArrowmaster: hrm, that does seem absurd
06:22.45ckknightso I've been thinking about making a comic strip
06:22.57ckknightbut instead of having it be funny, have it be about violently abusing women
06:23.15Finuhm... maybe... keep... thinking about that one
06:23.16Speeddymonrofl
06:23.22ckknightand all the steps in between to fulfill such passion
06:23.22Speeddymoni'd buy it
06:23.31CIA-2203sekuyo * r44776 10Cartographer_NoteTarget/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
06:23.31CIA-22Cartographer_NoteTarget
06:23.31CIA-22- update for release v0.3
06:23.31CIA-22- support slash command arguments that override the dogtag code for the
06:23.31CIA-22<PROTECTED>
06:23.32CIA-22- add About submenu command (self-aggrandizement ftw)
06:23.34CIA-22- remove unneeded externals
06:23.41ckknightI know there's totally a market for it
06:23.52ckknightpeople want to fulfill their rape fantasies vicariously
06:25.09Speeddymondamnit.. he's not on..  oh well.. forum post time
06:25.35ckknightthough it'd likely end up being more about the philosophical purpose of torture for enjoyment
06:26.01Finwhat else
06:26.03ckknightI'd have the main character narrate his thoughts and such
06:26.40ckknightFin: not much, really, just the brutality of the acts, the preparation, the home life that set it up, relationship with mother, etc.
06:26.53ckknightwhy the urge for femicide is so great
06:27.15ckknightabout focusing one's own self-loathing onto another person
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06:27.57Finperhaps a break in the middle somewhere for masturbatory excercises, then back to the theory?
06:28.31ckknightI don't see a point, seeing as the hooker would be in the antihero's presence anyway
06:28.46CIA-2203sekuyo * r44777 10/tags/Cartographer_NoteTarget/:
06:28.46CIA-22Cartographer_NoteTarget
06:28.46CIA-22- release tag subdir
06:29.17CIA-2203sekuyo 070.3 * r44778 10Cartographer_NoteTarget/:
06:29.17CIA-22Cartographer_NoteTarget
06:29.17CIA-22- tag for release 0.3
06:29.23ckknightalso he'll talk about the similar feelings between having actual sex and punching his victim
06:29.25Wobinckknight: You'd have to make the art very very good
06:29.30Wobinor very very bad
06:29.33ckknightreally, it becomes hard to distinguish for a sadist
06:30.22ckknightWobin: I'm not a great artist, so the art itself would be warped, something where you can get the idea of what's going on. The text would be the important part
06:30.40ckknightit'd be more like a diary with sketchings
06:31.15ckknightnote: I don't actually hate women personally, I'd be doing this mostly for shock value
06:32.29WobinWell that's the thing. The line between art and some idiot writing rape for the effect is thin, you have to have some abstraction in the pictures or the way the text is presented for it to qualify
06:33.57ckknighthrm
06:34.23ckknightwell, I find that most rape stories and the like are from either a 3rd party perspective or focused on the victim's perspective
06:34.38ckknightthis would be written in the antihero's point of view
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06:35.07ckknightas well as him trying to justify what he's doing as well as cover his tracks and such
06:39.05ckknightand try to come up with some philosophical reasoning behind what he's doing
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06:41.00Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304211810&postId=3040049669&sid=1#10 <-i win :P
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06:41.55ArrowmasterOmen really needs to get that LoadManagers line removed from the toc since threat-1.0 isnt lod
06:42.39kebinusanEvery time omen loads its position resets to the middle of my screen
06:42.54Arrowmasterkebinusan: you use addonloader right, same happens to me
06:44.15Fisker-Average Wait Time: 3 days <-bah
06:44.40Arrowmasteronly script lines in xml files are processed when an addon is loaded lod right? all frames created in xml arent created if loaded lod
06:45.52Arrowmasterseems strange that threat-1.0 has frames defined in xml rather than lua
06:47.19Antiar1It's because I couldn't figure out how to define that particular kind of frame in lua
06:47.22Antiar1It needs the font info
06:47.28Antiar1And I couldn't find how to set it programatically
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06:47.54Arrowmasterthe fontstring?
06:50.07Fisker-LOL
06:50.09Fisker-nice argument
06:50.17Fisker-No, not really, but cba to describe it to you if you are lazy to find out yourself, just speaking out of your head.
06:50.23Fisker-OH NOES HE'S SPEAKING OUT OF HIS HEAD
06:50.26ckknighthrm: "Everyone read this certain add-ons have been discontinued due to BC and as soon as blizzard works on it we can use them."
06:50.54kebinusanArrowmaster:  mah
06:51.04kebinusanerr yeah
06:51.16ckknightfrom the "I will NEVER be able to use AddOns" thread
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06:51.34Arrowmasteryeah i keep telling Antiarc to take the loadmanager off of omen
06:53.38etip!api OnMenuRequest
06:54.01etipmeh
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06:59.36ckknightetip: that's not a WoWism
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07:02.02Arrowmasteri hope i dont get baned from the forums for that reply
07:02.47Arrowmasterhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=442888800&postId=4427703226&sid=1#19
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07:06.13xtxyu: !
07:06.27xtxyu: from archimonde?
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07:11.05ckknightArrowmaster: I don't blame you
07:12.24Fisker-i've been walking a fine line on the EU forums lately :P
07:12.52Fisker-But you're just talking out of your head Arrowmaster
07:13.53Arrowmasteredited
07:14.04Arrowmasternow im not only an asshat but a helpful asshat
07:15.16mitch0-zZyo
07:15.37mitch0ckknight: are you still maintaining AceConsole?
07:16.00ckknightyea
07:16.54mitch0ckk: I belive it doesn't correctly implement the aceoptionstable "contract". if pass = true, it doesn't pass the real key, but whatever the user typed in on the console
07:17.09ckknighthrm
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07:18.19Arrowmaster2nd edit
07:18.29Arrowmasteri should stop being so helpful
07:18.37etip^^ see, you're a good guy :p
07:18.40mitch0I'm not even sure it actually checks the value of the "pass" parameter, it just passes anyway
07:18.46fireglowckknight: what do you think of the idea, that all libs should beginn their foldernames with Lib_? :S
07:18.56fireglowits getting messy in that AddOns folder...
07:18.57Arrowmasterfireglow: not going to happen
07:19.00ckknightnix
07:19.08fireglowwhy? :/
07:19.17Arrowmasterbecause we dont move stuff on the svn
07:19.23Arrowmasteror everything breaks
07:19.26ckknightbecause it complicates matters
07:19.29ckknighttoo low of an ROI.
07:19.37fireglowhum
07:20.01ckknightif I were to do it all over from the start, I would do things differently, but things are already set in place and it would be too great an effort to change for too minimal a gain
07:20.04Arrowmasterif we rename libs then every addon on the svn server that uses that lib would break until updated
07:20.32fireglowmm i see
07:20.40fireglowwell, too bad
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07:21.33Finpoopy pants
07:21.53mitch0ckknight: findTableLevels is the bad guy with the passValue thing, as far as I could see yesterday
07:21.55evl_Isn' there enough libs already? I have basic 6-7~ MiB and I've still got 48 folders in my !Standalones :P
07:22.38Arrowmasterthats it?
07:23.25sylvanaargood morning
07:23.35Arrowmasterhold on trying to get the size of my addons dir, it keeps counting
07:23.58ckknightur a poopy pants
07:24.06sylvanaarwhat do you use to manage your addons evl_
07:24.11evl_svn
07:24.31sylvanaar>.>
07:24.36evl_tend to manually update Threat/Omen/Violation a couple of times a day
07:24.40evl_everything else is rarely updated
07:24.42sylvanaar<.<
07:24.47ArrowmasterSize: 121MB, Size on disk: 155mb, Contains: 11,384 Files, 6,544 Folders
07:24.50sylvanaarhow about in game
07:25.03Guillotinefireglow: when the new interface change they've told us about goes live where we have to rewrite all code anyway we can go to that format
07:25.06haste/run DisableAddOn"name" -- go!
07:25.18sylvanaaryeah
07:25.22evl_I have a raid macro and an unraid macro: /ace disable bigwigs ora2 violation banzaialert omen xrs
07:25.22evl_:P
07:25.29fireglowGuillotine: uh, sounds severe
07:25.40sylvanaarso you use embedded libraries?
07:25.45Guillotinefireglow: ya. rather than using Lua, WoW UI is going to be programmed in lolcode
07:25.51evl_no, i use my own disembed thingy
07:25.59fireglowGuillotine: lol -.-
07:26.02fireglowright :D
07:26.40Fisker-bah
07:26.44evl_sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/71291
07:26.44Fisker-we got interceptowned
07:26.47evl_KISS :P
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07:28.48sylvanaarwell since you are doing it all yourself, you could optimize it
07:29.02evl_I was thinking about writing an Babble killer :P
07:29.10evl_one big metatable to return the english string!
07:29.35evl_Actually something to nuke all non english translations would be good too :D
07:29.52evl_I know it's only reading and parsing but on a 5400RPM laptop every read is pain
07:29.53sylvanaarevl_ omg
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07:32.32sylvanaarhave you ever tried using the tools we have made instead? lol
07:34.32sylvanaarArrowmaster mine is 4800 files in 823 folders
07:34.49sylvanaarArrowmaster that is your addon directory?
07:34.57Arrowmasteryes
07:35.02evl_sylvanaar: what tool ? :P
07:35.02Arrowmasteri blame svn for most of it
07:35.10sylvanaarArrowmaster you should
07:35.31evl_Arrowmaster: do a search for .* and subtract that :P
07:35.37sylvanaarArrowmaster because thats why there is some much stuff there
07:36.42Arrowmasterbusy watching hot lesbian porn right now
07:36.54evl_sylvanaar: what tool is this you're talking about
07:37.01evl_And I always get insane load times with embeds
07:37.09evl_since every modern addon now loads like 15 libs
07:37.20sylvanaarevl_ one of the downloaders + an in-game tool like ACP
07:37.44sylvanaarsvn of your addons directory = SLOW LOADS
07:37.55evl_Hmms, yeah I was suddently thinking of that
07:38.02evl_blizz probably reads all the .whatever files :P
07:38.05evl_I'll check now with FileMon
07:38.10sylvanaarreads everything
07:38.11pb_ee1sylvanaar: is it now better to use the default config of the wau documentation or still use !!!sal?
07:38.18sylvanaari checked with filemon
07:38.49sylvanaarpb_ee1 its up to you, both work
07:39.02evl_so does WUA actually *work* now?
07:39.07pb_ee1sylvanaar: thanks
07:39.08sylvanaarpb_ee1 but i see no need for !!!SAL now
07:39.15pb_ee1ho
07:39.29pb_ee1then i'll give a try to the default conf
07:40.21sylvanaarevl_ now vs when?
07:40.27evl_1.7 something
07:40.32evl_Don't remember, it ate my addons
07:41.00sylvanaardunno what to tell ya
07:41.10evl_tell me it works and that it doesn't eat my addons
07:41.33pb_ee1sylvanaar: btw, do you project to _not_ save any data in the wow folder?
07:41.41pb_ee1i hate having things being installed there
07:42.03pb_ee1or at least, have an option to disable waubackups and zips created whan i clean my savedvariable
07:42.06pb_ee1variables*
07:42.09|Stan|I hate the new ui :/
07:42.15|Stan|those dragable bars are ugly
07:42.40sylvanaargo write your own |Stan| ^.^
07:42.52|Stan|yeah hello to you, too ^^
07:42.58pb_ee1|Stan|: we should not tell sylvanaar all the things we think are bad or he will flee instantly ;p
07:43.05pb_ee1~flee
07:43.05purlACTION runs away screaming
07:43.15pb_ee1see? purl is already gone ^^
07:43.20|Stan|I love WAU in the way it works, just a few things that bug me
07:43.53sylvanaarit looks nice on my pc - perhaps you should apply another theme
07:44.03|Stan|vista default :P
07:44.14pb_ee1what about my über requests? :p
07:44.39evl_sylvanaar: Addons | Search | .svn | 1174 Files Found :o
07:45.06evl_does WoW read files on login or startup?
07:45.17Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304151746&postId=3040049975&sid=1#64
07:45.18Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304151746&postId=3040049975&sid=1#67
07:45.21Punkie`startup
07:45.22sylvanaarit creates a mask on startup
07:46.08evl_It reads Interface\Addons but nothing else right?
07:46.13sylvanaarit uses that mask to decide if it will read a file or not later on
07:46.13evl_Say I have Interface\HotPorn
07:46.19Fisker-hotporn_
07:46.20Fisker-?
07:46.21Fisker-nice
07:46.21Punkie`everything evl_
07:46.25evl_meh :(
07:46.28evl_I have billions of files in there
07:46.38evl_Is there anything inside the WoW directory it doesn't read?
07:46.39pb_ee1Fisker-: lol
07:46.41Punkie`yeah i had like 93840982390 screenshots
07:46.52sylvanaarit reads every single file in the World of Warcraft directory
07:46.56hastemy warlock was named 'Futard', they didn't like that either :(
07:47.00evl_holy crap thasnk :P
07:47.40sylvanaaryou can look using filemon to see
07:47.57evl_Checking now
07:49.43ckknightFisker-: you realize that you're trolling, right?
07:49.57sylvanaarFisker- = big troll
07:50.21evl_sylvanaar: why does wow try to read paths inside my interface addons dir that are non existant? Are addons mentioned somewhere else?
07:51.09sylvanaardepends on which pass you are taling about, there are 3 at least
07:51.11Fisker-ckknight yeah i know
07:51.15evl_OPENC:\PRIVATE\GAMES\WORLD OF WARCRAFT\INTERFACE\ADDONS\AG_UNITFRAMES\LIBS\ACEEVENT-2.0\PATH NOT FOUNDOptions: Open Directory  Access: All
07:51.25evl_that path hasn't been there for like weeks.
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07:51.36Fisker-I got diplomatic immunity
07:51.37ckknightporn goes in private
07:51.49sylvanaarlisted in a toc evl_
07:51.49evl_same with cartographer, it tries to read it but I havent' had it installed for months
07:52.02evl_sylvanaar: an entire addon can't be listed in a toc
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07:52.42sylvanaarAceEvent is a lib
07:53.19[Ammo]what evl is saying is wow tries to open files that haven't been there for months
07:53.25evl_thanks ammo :P
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07:53.33evl_So it has to have a reference to really old crap somewhere
07:53.41sylvanaarbut evl uses svn, so thre is no telling
07:53.59evl_what the flying fuck has non existant paths got to do with svn? :P
07:54.49sylvanaaryou need to grep your folder to find out
07:55.00evl_I am grepping it, too much binaries :P
07:55.19Fisker-you can't grep
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07:57.50Jceihi
07:58.19Fisker-nooo ckknight
07:58.32Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304151746&postId=3040049975&sid=1#67 <-they deleted it :(
07:59.19Bam__what was it? :P
08:00.03Fisker-"Obvious troll is obvioooooooous" :P
08:00.13Fisker-then he told me "No i'm not obvious"
08:00.25Fisker-Then i posted "Obvious troll is not THAT obvioooooooous then"
08:00.26Fisker-:P
08:00.34Bam__ehh
08:00.36JceiI'm willing to commit my addon to the svn, seeking for help
08:01.42Bam__you need to apply for an account after reading this: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules
08:02.13AghiriI've received my account
08:02.19Bam__oh
08:02.31AghiriI've commited in the sandbox
08:02.42Bam__so you got any questions?
08:02.50GngskI've pooped in the sandbox :(
08:03.00mitch0there is a sandbox?
08:03.02Aghirifor the moment no, but if you see something wrong just tell me ^
08:03.11Aghirihttp://dev.wowace.com/sandbox/
08:03.29Punkie`bodymassage.mp3?
08:03.31AghiriI'm following SVN For Beginners so it should work without problems
08:03.36Punkie`iwantcandy.mp3?
08:03.36Bam__what folder?
08:03.37Punkie`awesome
08:03.43AghiriArenaHistory
08:04.24Bam__well you need a "libs" folder with externals set
08:05.05Aghiriaddin svn:externals in properties isn't enough ?
08:05.26Punkie`i dont see a libs folder there tho
08:05.38Punkie`you need that libs folder to be comitted
08:05.40Arrowmasteryou dont have to make a libs folder
08:05.46AghiriI deleted the libs folder before commiting
08:05.59Bam__have you set externals directly on the main folder?
08:06.02Arrowmasterdid you set svn:externals on the libs folder or the main folder
08:06.08Punkie`oh yeah
08:06.11sylvanaarmost people do make a libs folder, and set their externals on that folder
08:06.17Punkie`i do that
08:06.27Punkie`i guess you can make another path on the main folder
08:06.36ArrowmasterBam__: you can set externals on the main folder but still have them created in a libs folder that doesnt actually exist until a checkout
08:06.36mitch0lua doesn't like a = b = c, right?
08:06.52mitch0but it can be done with a, b = c, c
08:06.58Bam__never thought of that...
08:07.21Bam__I hate Subversion anyway :P
08:07.40Aghiriso I have to commit without a libs folder, and have to create svn:externals
08:08.01Arrowmasteryou need to create svn:externals for libs nomatter what
08:08.04Arrowmasteryou have 2 options
08:08.07Bam__Aghiri: that's what most do yes
08:08.18Aghiriwhat's the best way to do it ?
08:08.20Arrowmasteryou can create a libs folder and set svn:externals on that folder
08:08.47Bam__svn pe svn:externals libs
08:08.50Aghiribut people who get addon without externals will have an empty directory ?
08:08.56Arrowmasteror you can do a more complexe method of setting svn:externals on the main folder but still have all the externals created in a libs folder
08:09.13Bam__Aghiri: yea but it doesn't hurt :)
08:09.21Arrowmasteri suggest the libs folder method
08:09.28Arrowmasterits easyer
08:09.36Aghiriok, I'll do that
08:10.01Arrowmasteri think the wiki only talks about the libs folder way
08:10.07Bam__though of course it might just be that empty folder that exceeds their harddisk size :D
08:10.15Mecdemortis CreateFrame(...) supposed to return a table with the frame at [0] instead of just the frame?
08:10.28mitch0alias:gsub("%s", "-"):lower() will leave alias untouched, right?
08:10.37Aghirithe guide tell "First right click your addons folder, go to Properties and then choose the Subversion tab. Again choose the properties option."
08:10.58Punkie`you need to commit it first so it's svn tagged
08:11.06Punkie`then set externals
08:11.07Bam__mitch0: yes, strings are immutable
08:11.07Aghiribut setting it on the libs folder seems more logical
08:11.09Punkie`then commit again
08:11.13ArrowmasterMecdemort: it returns the frame which is a table
08:11.32AghiriI start to commit it
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08:12.00Bam__mitch0: or did you mean the variable alias?
08:12.11mitch0I meant the variable alias
08:12.20MecdemortArrowmaster: ah ok, now later i go and set the variable that was point at the frame to false, but instead it assigns { [0] = nil }, any idea?
08:12.20Bam__that's not touched either
08:13.01mitch0like, alias = "foo bar"; alias:gsub("%s", "-"); print(alias) will still print "foo bar", and not "foo-bar"
08:13.08ArrowmasterMecdemort: you did 'var = CreateFrame() var = false'?
08:13.23Bam__mitch0: correct
08:13.53MecdemortArrowmaster: yup, and if you print out with pairs it says: var = { [0] = nil } or sometimes var = { }
08:14.21ArrowmasterMecdemort: thats because your using pairs
08:15.32mitch0ckk: calling a loop local temp "next" is bad for my sanity :P
08:15.41MecdemortArrowmaster: I dont quite follow
08:15.44Bam__umm pairs will not find a key with value nil... because well.. it isn't there :P
08:15.48ckknightbad, mitch0
08:15.50ckknightno banana
08:16.01mitch0you did that!
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08:16.09mitch0I'm trying to fix AceConsole...
08:16.28ArrowmasterMecdemort: how are you using pairs
08:16.48MecdemortArrowmaster: just to print out the table to see how it looks
08:17.04sylvanaarthat just reminded my i had a dream where i had 4 aces, and i woke up before i could play my hadn
08:17.07ArrowmasterMecdemort: if you do var = false its nolonger a table
08:17.13sylvanaars/hadn/hand/
08:17.29Bam__Mecdemort: sounds like you need to show your code.. it's getting confusing what you really do :)
08:17.41Mecdemortya, whats the name of that code bucket site
08:17.48Arrowmasterace.pastey.net
08:18.05Mecdemortok 1 sec
08:25.15Aghiritortoisesvn doesn't like me
08:25.50AghiriI've set the autoprops but semms that it doens't use it
08:25.50Diaohmm
08:25.54Diaodoes scl interfere with prat
08:26.09Aghiriperhaps restarting my computer will help
08:26.12Aghiribrb
08:27.04Mecdemorthttp://ace.pastey.net/71294
08:27.47winkillersylvanaar: didn't I just find it or is there no changelog of WAU releases?
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08:28.15Bam__Mecdemort: are you trying to put a frame into SavedVariables?
08:28.33Bam__that definitely will not work
08:29.00Mecdemortnot for reload, thats why i put it to false at the bottom, to save the key but not the frame
08:29.30Finsylvanaar: perhaps you are destined to be the author of Ace4..?
08:29.40CIA-2203daviesh * r44779 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.tw.lua:
08:29.40CIA-22AtlasLoot_OldInstances:
08:29.40CIA-22- Had to edit the translation at line 279 as one of the characters is being interpreted as a '\', making the following " be ignored.
08:30.41Aghiriauto props didn't seems to work
08:31.35AghiriI've set
08:31.35Aghirienable-auto-props = yes and "*.lua = svn:mime-type=text/plain;svn:eol-style=native;svn:keywords=Revision Date" in the tortoise svn config script but my commit is rejected cause svn:eol-style is not set
08:32.03mitch0ckknight: take a look at it: http://ace.pastey.net/71293
08:32.12winkillerI'll never get why commandline svn/cvs just plain beats every gui
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08:32.38evlsylvanaar: heh, that boosted performance considerably
08:32.40Mecdemortwinkiller: cuz it takes to many clicks to equal 2 seconds of typing
08:32.50Bam__Mecdemort: I cant quite figure out what you are trying to do tbh
08:32.58NargiddleyAghiri, set it for toc and xml as well
08:33.03|Stan|mm
08:33.06winkillernah, most gui tools beat the commandline by far. just vcs never get it right imo
08:33.09|Stan|the best german guild is now using Omen
08:33.17evlOne question though, if I have like Babble-2.2 which after WUA updates unpacks to a gazillion folders, I presume all those are load on demand meaning the actual files in the LOD won't be parsed/read before they're needed?
08:33.22AghiriI've used the script given at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps
08:33.44MecdemortBam__: I'm storing all of a frames settings in savedvariables, and the .frame as a placeholder to hold the actual frame while i work on it, then OnDisable I set .frame to false so I have all the settings and keys, but no more link to the frame
08:34.11mitch0oh, regarding LoD. is Threat-1.0 LoD? if so, if someone installs JUST Threat-1.0, will it load for them?
08:34.13ckknightmitch0: nah, it should always set work[index] = k, not the alias
08:34.15ArrowmasterMecdemort: dont do that, set the placeholder as something like self.frame
08:34.30mitch0ckk: ah, bummer.
08:34.33Arrowmastermitch0: threat-1.0 is not lod
08:34.35mitch0fixing
08:34.58MecdemortArrowmaster: ok, ill figure out a way to rework it like that
08:35.57ArrowmasterMecdemort: are you using more than one frame? if you have a way to identify them you can make 2 tables
08:36.10MecdemortArrowmaster: ya i should be able to do it by name
08:36.12mitch0ckk: http://ace.pastey.net/71295
08:36.17mitch0even smaller :)
08:36.29ckknightyep, seems good
08:36.35ckknightyou tested?
08:36.42mitch0although it would be nice to rename that "next", too, just to save me if I ever have to wade thru it again :)
08:36.44Arrowmasterlike self.db.profile.frames[name] = settings and self.frames[name] = reference
08:36.44mitch0ckk: nope
08:36.48mitch0@work
08:37.11mitch0last night I was too tired to figure out what exactly was going on
08:37.20MecdemortArrowmaster: Im thinking just Addon:frames[name].frame would that work if i do Addon:Frames = {}
08:37.22NargiddleyAghiri make sure that the enable-auto-props = yes is under the [miscellany] section
08:37.23mitch0so I went to heroic slave pens instead :)
08:37.41mitch0ckk: but it shouldn't break anything by the looks of it
08:37.50Aghiriok i'll test that
08:37.57ckknightbut it might
08:38.04Arrowmastermitch0: test first pls with anything involving ace2 core
08:38.21NargiddleyAghiri, http://narg.pastey.net/71296 is my full config that works for reference
08:38.25Arrowmasterckks made too many drycode ninja commits for us to handle
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08:38.48ckknightArrowmaster: you just notice the bad ones
08:38.50Aghirithx a lot
08:39.06mitch0can't do now. will test it later tonight then if nobody's willing to test it for me now :)
08:39.21Arrowmasterckknight: you mean like you taking aceoo out of the ace2 toc?
08:40.09Bam__Nargiddley: have you tested Waterfall on PTR?
08:40.17mitch0guess this "feature" of AceConsole has bitten the Quartz dev, too. it's optionstable is full of option = { ... passValue = 'option' ... }
08:40.27NargiddleyBam__, havent been on the ptr
08:40.33Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304171473&sid=1#4 <-to giggle for
08:40.36Bam__Nargiddley: sometimes labels don't seem to be displayed.. probably a timing issue with getting the width
08:40.52mitch0fisker: have you ever considered getting a life?
08:41.03NargiddleyBam__, its already an annoying hack to get the width. I wouldnt be suprised :/
08:41.08ckknightor totally breaking AceEvent upgrading
08:41.19Bam__Nargiddley: yea I saw the comment in the code :P
08:42.10Nargiddleyfrom an aceoptions table they should have a width set anyway
08:42.28Bam__other addons have issues too with labels... especially when scaling a frame it seems
08:42.31Arrowmasterckknight: yeah you break upgrading a lot
08:42.54Arrowmasterckknight: lets not forget the acehook-2.1 svn:keyword issue
08:42.56ckknightyou only notice the bad things
08:43.05Nargiddleyhm nope labels dont always get a width
08:43.49ckknightis it wrong to murder fortune tellers?
08:43.56ckknightI mean, they should've seen it coming, right?
08:44.07Nargiddleyi dont think that would affect visibility, it mostly shows as controls not sitting next to each other correctly
08:44.08mitch0ckknight: I have another issue with AceConsole, but I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong there or not: upon first load, /rangedisplay says the addon is Suspended, but it's actually not (Enabled is ticked in DewDrop and Waterfall, and the addon actually runs). toggling 'standby' gets it on track though
08:44.21ckknighthrm...
08:44.49Bam__Nargiddley: I will just log on and find an example
08:45.25mitch0will try to look into it now if I manage to find the relevant code in AceConsole :)
08:45.38mitch0<prodigy>in the jungle</prodigy>
08:45.46CIA-2203aghiri * r44780 10ArenaHistory/ (9 files in 3 dirs):
08:45.46CIA-22ArenaHistory: initial commit
08:45.46CIA-22- Give you informations about played arena matches
08:46.00Aghirihum
08:46.59ckknightperhaps the get is screwy
08:47.32mitch0it's AceDB's get
08:47.40Bam__Nargiddley: PitBull in Niagara is a good example... quite a lot of labels don't get shown
08:47.41mitch0and it seems to work with DewDrop and WF
08:49.28mitch0oh, it has a map = { [true] = Suspended, [false] = Active } and it's based on 'disabled', but I think it might be nil initially
08:49.37mitch0so it's probly a bug in AceDB
08:50.37Bam__a quick bug too... either in Waterfall or Pitbull: http://ace.pastey.net/71297
08:50.38Mecdemortwow omnibus and luac -p are just so amazing, significantly reduces my needed /rl
08:52.35Bam__Nargiddley: definitely a timing issue.. it's quite random which labels get shown or not
08:52.39mitch0hm. no. AceDB:IsActive is full of "not"s, so it should never return nil
08:54.47CIA-2203roartindon * r44781 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Modules/Damage.lua Modules/Gain.lua):
08:54.47CIA-22Assessment
08:54.47CIA-22- Added gain tracking (mana, energy, health, rage, etc.)
08:55.13CIA-2203aghiri * r44782 10ArenaHistory/ (. libs/): ArenaHistory: Updated externals
08:56.15mitch0~omnibus
08:56.29mitch0hrmp
08:56.37mitch0mecdemort: what are they?
08:56.43|Stan|Grid is broken :( http://nopaste.php-q.net/313509
08:56.46HealthAghiri: What kind of information?
08:56.58AghiriIt's in early stage for the moment
08:57.14AghiriIt tell you the name of opposite team and it's rating at the end
08:57.21Aghirirating before
08:57.24Mecdemortmitch0: omnibus lets you run LUA code in an ingame text editor, and luac -p lets you check for syntax errors in your editor
08:57.42mitch0ah
08:57.46AghiriI would like now to add a GUI so people could check what they did during the past matches
08:58.28HealthI see
08:59.26Aghirifor now it detect arena start, people leaving before the end, the score and rating diff
08:59.38HealthCool to see some sort of quick recap of the match and the outcome. Like, druid died first... resulted in a win
09:00.09Aghiriwhy not
09:00.33Aghirialso a sync feature to see chat your team do when you're not connected ^
09:00.34Mecdemortis it possible to do something like this, referencing a table index from another one while creating said table: http://ace.pastey.net/71298
09:01.29HealthAghiri: Is there a good way to detect which the team is before the match has ended? I guess you could just match, arena type + opponent names.. would that be reliable enough?
09:01.44HealthSo you can have a quick recap of match history of them before you engage
09:02.10AghiriNot sure if the blizzard api let me check for these stats
09:02.20Aghirineed a bit of testing
09:02.51HealthYeah. I guess that you could build a match based on opponent names + realms
09:02.56AghiriIf i can get the opposite team's name I can do it
09:03.22HealthJust as Proximo gathers opponent data.. when you have all opponents found you could do a pretty good guess on team
09:04.04AghiriThe point of this addon wasn't to give you real time information
09:04.14Aghiribut an history of what was done
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09:04.37AghiriBut I think it could be a great addition
09:05.30HealthYeah... Would be really nice to be able to in an easy way access/find the history information pretty early in the mage. To see what tactics might have worked best.
09:05.34HealthOr something like that.
09:07.30Aghirifor the moment I'll finish what was planned for this addon, but I take note of this suggestion for future dev
09:09.02AghiriI leave for the moment, it's time for a bit of belf paladin aoe pexing
09:09.12Aghiricu
09:09.22mitch0ok, I give up on the standby issue for now, no idea what could be wrong by just looking at the code
09:12.34mitch0what is the default state of a frame created with CreateFrame() ? hidden or shown?
09:12.40Mecdemortis it possible to pass multiple values with passValue in wowOptions tables?
09:12.53nevcairielyou can pass a table
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09:13.35ckknightaceOptions
09:13.45Mecdemorterr ya that too
09:13.46CIA-2203aghiri * r44783 10ArenaHistory/ArenaHistory.toc: ArenaHistory: Updated description
09:14.40mitch0!api CreateFrmae
09:14.45mitch0!api CreateFrame
09:15.07mitch0doh, no bot :(
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09:15.44Thrae!api CreateFrame
09:15.45ThraeBotThrae: newFrame = CreateFrame("frameType", "frameName", parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]);  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame
09:16.06Mecdemortoo thats nifty
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09:17.10Dhragais it possible to get the mouseover target's name into that chat in a macro ?
09:18.16ThraeDhraga: UnitExists("mouseover") and UnitName("mouseover")
09:18.55DhragaThrae, thanks I'll give it a try
09:19.55mitch0OnEnable(first) is guaranteed to be called on load if the addon is "Active", right?
09:20.23mitch0yeah, must be or else my addon would be br0ke already :0
09:20.42mitch0broken even, meh
09:26.18mitch0I can specify both a 'validate' table and a 'map' for an option, right?
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09:32.26mitch0or is validateDesc the one I'm looking for? basically, I need an ordered list of text values, for example {"HIGH", "MEDIUM", "LOW"} but I want them displayd in the menu as { L["High"], L["Medium"], L["Low"] }
09:35.14Neebleranyone familiar with a small addon, or line of code to allow the default blizzard unitframes to become movable?
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09:38.49CIA-2203mitchell 07AceAddon * r44784 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: create our frame hidden initially
09:39.35MecdemortNeebler: Visor2 and Visor2GUI will let you move any frame
09:40.32Neebler"small addon" :P
09:41.30NeeblerJust got fed up with the lag I was getting in raids. So I'm reverting to the default UI, after years of using addons
09:41.45Neeblerjust need to move the damn default UF. cannot stand looking in the upper left
09:42.28Neeblerhmmm "just" is being abused in my sentences. "just" need to fix that :P
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09:50.43[dRaCo]check wowi, there are lots of those addons...
09:50.56[dRaCo]"moveFrames", "move frames", etc
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09:57.06Neeblerthanks researching them now
09:58.41Neeblerseems 'moveframes' is dead. and 'dragqueen's' repositioned frames dont stick
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09:59.57Neebler"moveit" however seems like a winner
10:05.15Mecdemortfor aceOptions passValue I can do passValue = {val1, val2} right? or is there a different syntax
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10:34.29mitch0.
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10:36.49Mecdemorthmm if i'm expecting a 2 value array to a function can i do function({val1, val2}, val3) ?
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11:03.18CIA-2203sayclub * r44785 10BigWigs/SC/ (Leotheras.lua Morogrim.lua):
11:03.18CIA-22BigWigs:
11:03.18CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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11:06.03CIA-22BigWigs:
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11:07.06CIA-2203elandril * r44787 10Manufac/Manufac-deDE.lua:
11:07.06CIA-22Manufac:
11:07.06CIA-22- corrected the translation of "Guardian Elixir" in the deDE locale to match the client's tooltip description
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11:11.17Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185361763076.jpg lol
11:11.50Saladinhahaha
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11:15.07Dustwhisper|Is there any addon like DrDamage or whatever that lets you modify your current stats up/down to see how replacing something would work out
11:15.24Dustwhisper|where you can actually directly modify your hit/crit/dmg and see the output on lvl 73 raidbosses
11:15.31xtDustwhisper|: drdmg does that, lol
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11:36.26Dustwhisper|it does? where do i get up a window where i can modify my existing values by a certain amount xt ?
11:37.42Fisker-it's a command
11:38.25Punkie`Fisker-: what was that picture, it's been removed :(
11:40.06Fisker-hah! Punkie`
11:40.06Fisker-pwnt
11:40.27Punkie`gogo host it!
11:40.42Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185362702822.jpg
11:40.44Fisker-hurries
11:41.35Punkie`hehe, i read that before :(
11:41.40Fisker-owned
11:42.14Punkie`:(
11:43.34Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185363682025.jpg lol
11:43.51Neeblerhmmm the name for the player's default unitframe CombatText is "PlayerHitIndicator" but the target one is not "TargetHitIndicator"
11:44.02Neeblerdoes anyone know the name of the targets "combat text" frame?
11:45.35Punkie`the one that hovers over the other persons head when you hit them in default ?
11:47.03Punkie`ouch :(
11:48.10vhaarrFisker-: bah, link me that newsclip again
11:48.10Neebleryes that one punkie
11:48.24vhaarr404 ftl
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11:49.09Punkie`Neebler: what do you want to do with it?
11:49.23Neeblerhide it
11:49.35Punkie`go into your interface options and hide it then?
11:49.45NeeblerI can hide the PlayerHitIndicator, but dunno what the target one is
11:49.53Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185364180087.jpg
11:49.55Neeblerit's in interface options?1!
11:49.59Neeblergah
11:49.59Punkie`duh
11:52.04Neeblerit's not in there
11:52.12Neebleronly combat text floating above your targets head.
11:52.22Neeblerin the game world. not on the default unitframes
11:53.06Punkie`i just asked you and you told me it was that one
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11:57.20Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185364451707.jpg <-omg it's going to eat us
11:57.21Punkie`take a screenshot or something, i have no idea what you are talking about
11:59.04Fisker-it's a dragon?
11:59.06Fisker-oh
11:59.08[dRaCo]ora's player dont seem to work for me and a guild mate... any ideas?
11:59.22[dRaCo]s/player/player targets/
11:59.23Finsomeone give me a nice unpack format string for 2007-07-25T02:26:36.918628Z, pretty please?
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12:04.33Neeblergah! no wonder. SimpleUnitFrames which edits the default wow unitframes, was adding combattext to the targets portrait, and mine
12:10.11yacoobpurl, botsnack!
12:10.11purlyacoob: aw, gee
12:10.14yacoob:)
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12:17.41CIA-2203diablohu * r44788 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua:
12:17.41CIA-22AtlasLoot:
12:17.41CIA-22- zhCN update
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12:20.11Punkie`Neebler: What doe SUF look like, I swear I saw a screenshot of them looking kind of ugly :p
12:23.10Fisker-purl, botsnack
12:23.10purl:), Fisker-
12:23.14Fisker-purl, gtfo
12:23.15purlSorry sir, I won't bother you anymore.
12:25.03evlAnyway to get SimpleCombatLog to work with Parser-3.0?
12:26.08nevcairielevl: just remove Parser-1
12:26.24nevcairieland edit SimpleCombatLog to OptDep Parser-3.0
12:26.26nevcairielor something
12:26.40evlok thanks
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12:31.25Dustwhisper|what on earth is the difference between ElkBuffBar and ElkBuffBars ?!
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12:32.37Silviu-ElkBuffBars u can configure each greoup, buffs/debuffs/weapon buffs separately
12:33.23Dustwhisper|oh niceness
12:34.15Dustwhisper|i never get my UI to the point where i think "finished"
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12:34.27Dustwhisper|I wish Ace2 would add in some "base bar setting"
12:34.35Dustwhisper|so all addons could derive their bar settings from a master setting
12:34.40Dustwhisper|the skintype that is
12:36.01ccKephmhmhm, doesn't Grid support showing the same unit twice?
12:36.48xb95grid can have the tanks down the side and also in the list.. tanks+25 layout.. but I don't think it has any other means of doing so
12:37.35ccKepnah, sec.
12:38.22ccKephttp://ace.pastey.net/71302
12:39.06ccKepwell, I'd expect something like this:
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12:39.33ccKepVanice, PlayerA, PlayerB in a raid and in grp1... I'd like grid to show something like this then:
12:39.38ccKepRow 1: Vanice
12:39.43ccKepRow 2: Vanice, PlayerA, PlayerB
12:39.45ccKep^
12:40.20ccKepay, ay, works.. got a typo, lol
12:46.15Dustwhisper|would it be possible for Grid to have the WHOLE unit frame be a debuff frame for just one single debuff?
12:46.21Dustwhisper|the only reason i show grid is to see who has arcane brilliance
12:46.29Dustwhisper|i just want to scale it down really small
12:46.46Dustwhisper|and make the whole frame colored with class if not Arcane brilliance and whole with AB if it does have it
12:47.06ccKepyou can adjust the center icon size afaik
12:47.15ccKepso you could adjust it to be 100% of the unitframe size
12:47.24Azurewrathmhm, i use XRS for Buff-checking.. but i run Grid as well, for decursing
12:47.33Dustwhisper|i use decursive for decursing
12:47.50CIA-2203gagorian * r44789 10DrDamage/Melee.lua:
12:47.50CIA-22DrDamage:
12:47.50CIA-22- Corrected +100 AP calculation for druid actions that require forms
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12:48.10AzurewrathGrid+Clique > all for decursing, imho :)
12:49.26ccKep/signed
12:50.04ccKepDustwhisper|: grid options -> frame -> advanced -> icon size, if you set it to the same value as frame size you should get the desired effect
12:51.05ccKepthen arcane intellect priority to 90, Debuff Type: Curse Priority to 91 and its nice :)
12:51.25Dustwhisper|woot
12:51.30Dustwhisper|grid has decursive clicking?
12:51.36Dustwhisper|since when
12:51.38ccKepnah, you need Clique
12:51.44ccKepits a click-casting addon
12:51.52ccKepgrid has support for it
12:51.58ccKephttp://files.wowace.com/Clique
12:52.15ccKepcan't play without it =)
12:52.37Dustwhisper|so it'll work exactly like decursive ?
12:52.49ccKepnever used decurse, but what it basically does:
12:53.00ccKepyou bind mouse4 to Remove Curse (or whatever)
12:53.09Dustwhisper|my grid is a bit fucked though
12:53.10ccKepand then clicking on grid unitframes with mouse4 decurses them :>
12:53.17Dustwhisper|my grid colors disappear all the time
12:53.36ccKepdepends on what you set your health bar color to indicate
12:53.49Azurewrathi configured it so that i just have to right-click any raidmember to cast decurse on them
12:53.52ccKepif you only set it to "unit health" it'll keep the unit color
12:54.29Dustwhisper|oh id love that Azurewrath
12:54.32ccKepmouse4 = lesser healing wave, ctrl+mouse4 = earth shield ^.^
12:54.32Dustwhisper|i cant even move the grid frame now
12:55.00Azurewrathhehe, i play a Mage.. so i only need one button ;)
12:55.06Dustwhisper|<- mage aswell
12:55.26Dustwhisper|how on earth do you move grid, i tried alt, shift, ctrl, left and right clicking
12:55.32Dustwhisper|oh
12:55.34Undinesure i saw a patch note ages back saying smaller stacks would be used first
12:55.36Dustwhisper|you have to hit the border
12:55.36ccKepyou have to click between the unit frames
12:55.39ccKepyeah
12:56.27ccKepI love the way you can configure grid to show the most useful things on very small room
12:56.44ccKepgot mine to show aggro, incoming heals and then the center icon with some debuffs
12:56.50ccKep(e.g. Watery Grave and such)
12:57.55Thratchen< Pally: Shift+Mouse1 = Cleanse, Shift+Mouse2 = Flash of Light *yawn raids can be boring*
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12:59.43Azurewrathmine shows Curses as an icon and the rest as side/border/whatever indicators.. i just love it
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13:00.35Fisker-hai Punkie`
13:00.41Kadookiehi, is there a tool like AceUpdater for Mac?
13:00.55Punkie`enjoy your box Fisker-?
13:01.35ccKephttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater <<< scroll down to the bottom ;)
13:01.46ccKepmaybe something there that helps you
13:02.07ccKep(MacAceUpdater sounds like what you could use)
13:02.11dylanmKadookie: http://code.google.com/p/jwowupdater is good too.
13:02.46|Kev|Kadookie: mau should be fine for you
13:02.50|Kev|are you on ppc or intel?
13:02.57Kadookieintel
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13:03.07|Kev|http://www.kismith.co.uk/tmp/MacAceUpdater-0.4.dmg
13:03.30|Kev|(newer than what's on the mau website because it doesn't work on ppc)
13:03.38Kadookieok, thank you all :)
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13:07.51Dustwhisper|grid is a bitch to move
13:07.57Dustwhisper|when you have frames that are 10x10 pixels
13:08.56Punkie`I have never had a problem moving Grid personally :/
13:09.58CIA-2203thexod * r44790 10ItemValue_DrDamage/Class_DrDamageSet.lua:
13:09.58CIA-22ItemValue_DrDamage:
13:09.58CIA-22- Dont try to reload sets which are already loaded
13:10.00Dustwhisper|how do you move it if you have no border, no spacing, no padding and 10x10 unit frames ?
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13:11.41Punkie`I think I turn the background frame on, move it, then turn it off again
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13:13.16Dustwhisper|yea guess that works
13:13.29Dustwhisper|ok last gruidquestion, how do i set buff/debuff priority ?
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13:13.33Dustwhisper|eg curse > ab > ai
13:17.02ccKepgrid options -> status -> aura
13:17.19ccKepthen click on some buff /debuff
13:17.23ccKepand move the priority slider :D
13:18.27ccKepdebuff type: curse has a standart priority of 90, so you could set arcane brilliance to 89 and arcane intelligence to 88 and it should work if your center icon is set to display curse, ai and ab
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13:27.43Dustwhisper|Can you get Quartz to show how many seconds remaining on sheep on a target or at all?
13:28.05Dustwhisper|cant really get imp scorch/sheep to work well with antagonist/chronometer either
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13:29.00cryogenit should do that anyway, shouldnt it?
13:29.10cryogenbut since they all listen to the same events, if one miss it they probably all will
13:29.11kenlyricDustwhisper|: classtimers
13:30.13Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304211931&sid=1#5 haha
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13:32.01CIA-2203rabbit * r44791 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua:
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13:35.41GagorianAnyone know why GloryLib doesn't seem to count EotS wins properly?
13:36.14vhaarrGagorian: fix it!
13:38.39GagorianI will when I figure out what's wrong :P
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13:41.40Undineanyone know of any guides for pulling data off the armory?
13:42.13HealthYou need a guide to read xml?
13:43.47Undineno, probably just being a noob and missing the xml link
13:44.23Healthget firebug for firefox and watch the http requests
13:46.07CIA-2203mikk * r44792 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
13:46.07CIA-22DewdropLib:
13:46.07CIA-22- Passing groups within passing groups will no longer pass sets&gets to the bottom-most parent if the child group has its own get&set defined (bug fix of Mikk's passing-in-passing support)
13:47.33Sais"bottom-most parent" just sounds back-to-front to me...but then I think of hierarchies as having the root at the top, not the bottom...
13:48.20Chompers"PS3 has 60gig plus the cell chip what would make its memory into Terra Bites" lulz
13:48.21xb95Undine: view source on an Armory page. They're all XML pages using XSLTs to style them in a way that looks like you'd expect an HTML page to look.
13:48.39Undineta. playing with firebug now
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13:48.48Chompersmmm, those are some tasty terra bites
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13:57.13CIA-2203andalia * r44793 10BattleChat/ (4 files):
13:57.13CIA-22BattleChat:
13:57.13CIA-22Huge Update:
13:57.13CIA-22- Uses Parser-3.0 (Displays a lot more)
13:57.13CIA-22- Localization
13:57.14CIA-22- Much better options (DB-Reset)
13:58.59Healthhandy window for battle numbers?
13:59.29CIA-2203andalia * r44794 10BattleChat_Buffs/BattleChat_Buffs.lua:
13:59.29CIA-22BattleChat_Buffs:
13:59.29CIA-22- Update to keep it working with BattleChat
13:59.29CIA-22- Displays Item-Buffs
14:00.13Finawesome: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0719071cleveland1.html
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14:01.20sbmhmhm
14:01.29sbrecommended php ajax framework? :o
14:01.41xb95ruby
14:01.51ccKepUndine: http://www.concilium-wow.de/libArmory.phps something I wrote a while ago
14:01.57sbp h p :p
14:02.52ccKepyou can then print_r(GetArmoryDetails($char,$realm, false)); and search what you need to display ^.^
14:03.31ccKep(needs curl and libxml)
14:03.43Fisker-fucking awesome Fin
14:03.54jmeso like... arena is pretty fun
14:04.07Chomperswhen you win
14:04.10jmeyeah
14:04.18jmewe got on a losing streak at first cause the pally and i were noobs
14:04.23jmeended up 1501 :(
14:04.29ccKepexample output of the array is at http://forum.concilium-wow.de/armory.php?spy_char=D%E9ie&spy_realm=Blackhand
14:04.31jme3v3
14:04.37Matrix110What is really nice is
14:04.39Matrix1105vs5
14:04.51Matrix110then you play against like a 1300team
14:04.55jmeheh
14:04.55Matrix1101 person DCs
14:04.58Matrix110and you loose 32rating
14:05.00Matrix110THATS nice
14:05.02Chomperswe hit 1790 on our 5v5, then went back to 1503 because of a few losses
14:05.04Chompersits harsh
14:05.13jmeouch
14:05.58jmemakeup was bm/mm hunter (me), warrior, holy pally
14:06.21Chompersarms spec warrior i hope?
14:06.27jmeyeah
14:06.45jmewell he's 33/25/3
14:06.57cryogenbecause of lack of 5v5 teams or what?
14:07.14jmeno, he has a 5v5 team too, i'm just not on it
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14:07.20cryogen15:05 < Chompers> we hit 1790 on our 5v5, then went back to 1503 because of a
14:07.20cryogen<PROTECTED>
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14:07.23jmeoh
14:07.25cryogenwas refering to that, sorry :)
14:07.44Chompersloosing 30 points a game
14:08.20cryogenbecause the rating gaps are high because there are fewer teams?
14:08.32Fisker-Fin WTF
14:08.40Fisker-What are these guys smoking
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14:08.51Chompersnot sure cryogen
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14:09.05Fisker-"Omg blizzard didn't even acknowledge the orc shoulderpads size bug"
14:09.10cryogeni know in 3v3 we very rarely gain more or less than 15/16 points a game
14:09.13Fisker-"err yes, it was a sticky from day one?"
14:09.17Fisker-"no they didn't LALALALA"
14:09.21Finit's awesome
14:09.36cryogenkeep orc shoulders the way they are tbh
14:10.39Fisker-http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xyN5xg6OCQs <-
14:10.49Fisker-that's like discussing with orcs about the shoulders
14:11.23CIA-2203roartindon * r44795 10Assessment/Modules/Healing.lua:
14:11.23CIA-22Assessment
14:11.23CIA-22- Raw Healing details and hit details now show counts
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14:13.34Dustwhisper|http://surl.se/ccyx
14:13.37Dustwhisper|what unitframes is that?
14:13.56mitch0dang.. conflict in AceConsole...
14:14.20FinI'd say Pitbull
14:14.23ChompersPitbull
14:14.48Dustwhisper|Think im gonna test those out
14:14.55Dustwhisper|id like to switch to arkInventory aswell
14:15.02Dustwhisper|but i cant get the sections to be horisontal
14:16.15CIA-2203sayclub * r44796 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
14:16.15CIA-22Babble-2.2:
14:16.15CIA-22- Updated localization koKR
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14:16.34mitch0vhaarr: you could've included my one-liner fix in AceConsole while you were fiddling with the same section of code :)
14:16.42vhaarrmitch0: which fix?
14:17.11mitch0sec, lemme dig out pastey
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14:18.02mitch0vhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/71295
14:18.17vhaarrmitch0: and the explanation?
14:18.39krkaJUSTIFY YOURSELF!
14:18.47mitch0aceconsole fscks up the casing (and whitespacing, although I dunno how that could happen) of aceoptions
14:19.08yacoob(and I'm aaaaaancient, and I drive an ice cream van!)
14:19.11mitch0like, options have someToggle = { type = 'toggle' ... }
14:19.20mitch0and I type /someaddon sometogge
14:19.35mitch0sometoggle even (just with a lowercase t)
14:19.44vhaarrright
14:19.49mitch0it'll set db.sometoggle instead of db.someToggle
14:20.16mitch0if the group has pass = true, but no individual passValues for every option
14:21.19mitch0basically, it's a side-effect of the convenience of icase comparing the option with the user supplied string
14:21.31pb_ee1Cryect: ping
14:21.39mitch0that oneliner is drycoded though, that's why I haven't committed yet :0
14:22.04vhaarryou can't commit it anyway
14:22.28mitch0uh, aceconsole is special?
14:23.12Gagorianvhaarr: Well it seems like EotS doesn't announce either The Alliance Wins or The Horde Wins unlike all other BGs
14:23.23GagorianSo, it's f'd
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14:24.52vhaarrmitch0: seems your fix works
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14:28.19CIA-2203roartindon * r44797 10Assessment/AssessmentTag.lua:
14:28.19CIA-22Assessment
14:28.19CIA-22- FormatDuration now specifically formats times greater than an hour
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14:28.50vhaarrmitch0: but you should test it more
14:28.57vhaarrand when you're confident it works, let me know, I'll commit it
14:28.58vhaarror ckk
14:31.33mitch0well, I can only be as confident that my addon will not break as it did yesterday... other addon writers circumvented the problem with useless crud (passValue =  'someToggle' for each option, or separate get/set functions for each option)
14:31.44mitch0otherwise someone would've bitched about it :)
14:31.56mitch0but I'll test it and let you know how it went
14:32.59mitch0my misfortune was that I never done any AceConsole stuff so my first thought was that it must be me who's doing sometihng silly, so it took me a lot of debugging to track it down
14:34.37jmeDustwhisper|: is that what pitbull's raid frames look like?
14:34.56vrakhttp://surl.se/ccyx
14:35.01vrakerh
14:35.06jmeyes
14:35.21mitch0pitbull's raid frames can look like however you set them up, I think
14:35.27jmeah
14:35.37jmei'm still using aguf and grid with the default profiles for both :X
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14:36.18mitch0I couldn't get pitbulls raid frames to align the buffs like on that picture though
14:36.33jmethat looks nice
14:36.41deltronwhat pic?
14:36.47jme11:35 <vrak> http://surl.se/ccyx
14:36.52pb_ee1vrak: what is the addon that displays that nice boss picture?
14:36.55mitch0is that really pitbull?
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14:37.01jmelooks like it
14:37.06deltronoh wow...
14:37.11deltronthat is awesome
14:37.17jmeyeah
14:37.30deltronI don't think I could heal from it though :(
14:37.31vrakpb_ee1: haven't the foggiest idea
14:37.48pb_ee1vrak: ho, i thought it was your ui
14:37.50jmei'd like that with some aggro coloring
14:38.01vraksomeone pasted that url and i had it in my buffer and somewhat accidentally pasted it :p
14:38.01Chompersit doesn't look very useful
14:38.06mitch0ok, so how was it set up? :)
14:38.12jmebut then again i'm a huntard, what do i need raid frames for
14:38.17mitch0my raidmember's buffs are misplaced :(
14:38.24Chomperswhen to feign death
14:38.38jmei only spam two buttons
14:38.49jmesteady shot and TBW :X
14:39.17charonmitch0: only solution i found in a similiar layout, was to make buffs&debuffs half sized, separate settings, buffs anchored topright extending right-then-bottom, debuffs bottomright extending right-then-up
14:39.20deltronI wish I could heal off of frams like that lol
14:39.28charonof course then they're rather small.
14:39.28deltronI don't see it being workable though
14:39.39jmedeltron: nah
14:40.01cryogenhow do you hide the TPS column im omen like that?
14:40.24charonmitch0: also, at some point i set it to grow to the left (still anchored to the right). looks something like this: http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_070807_225520.jpg
14:40.50Dustwhisper|gonna test out pitbull
14:40.55Dustwhisper|but exactly what is pitbull_prat ?
14:41.09jmenot sure, there's a wowinsider post about it
14:41.11deltronI use pitbull for my raid frames
14:41.27jmeany hunters in here that actaully use raid frames?
14:41.37charonDustwhisper|: when someone chats it shows a "chat bubble" near that frame. haven't done any serious testing because it got annoying at the second bubble and i disabled it again
14:41.47Dustwhisper|lol ok
14:41.50pb_ee1charon: i'm not pretty sure this guy (anmoch) sees a lot of what the game displays ;p
14:42.01Dustwhisper|but does anyone know how you can get arkInventory to show it's sections horizontaly?
14:42.03CIA-2203sayclub * r44798 10Proximo/localization-koKR.lua:
14:42.03CIA-22Proximo :
14:42.03CIA-22<PROTECTED>
14:42.10Dustwhisper|or if there is any other bagmod than baggings that has sections and actually works
14:42.14charonpb_ee1: um. true. note however that anmoch==me and i've done some cleaning up since then
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14:42.35pb_ee1Dustwhisper|: the only way is to reduce the bar height
14:42.42charonlemme dig up a more recent shot
14:42.50pb_ee1Dustwhisper|: just right click on the menu (top-left of the window), bars and try sneaking there
14:42.51jmealso, what is the casting bar in that screenshot?
14:43.04break19looked like quartz to me
14:43.09pb_ee1charon: let me show you something if i can find a screenshot of my interface
14:43.10deltronyeah quartz
14:43.14jmei meant the bar timer with Fireball on it
14:43.22Dustwhisper|it's quartz
14:43.25jmeah
14:43.28deltronquartz
14:43.32Dustwhisper|i have no idea what skin that is though
14:43.44Dustwhisper|i couldn't get my quartz to look identical
14:44.01nevcairielAntiarc|Work: i am having a error with threat right now on german client, he is showing in version querys just fine and all, but no threat at all is recorded
14:44.09deltronit'd be nice to play a class with so few buttons you need to press lol
14:44.15pb_ee1charon: http://images.lords-zodiac.com/559/meauhugdab.jpg
14:44.18deltronthe debuff timers are nice
14:44.29jmedeltron: it gets boring sometimes
14:44.37nevcairielAntiarc|Work: anything i can do to debug?
14:44.41pb_ee1charon: it's not up to date, but is very similar to what i have at the moment
14:44.48yacoobuh..
14:44.49break19ckknight: hey.. is there somewhere I can see example triggers for parrot? the code just.. isnt clicking in my head.
14:44.59yacoobwhat was the name of the addon which is far more inferior to fubar?
14:45.00CIA-2203rabbit * r44799 10SinkLib/ (6 files in 3 dirs): .Sink-1.0: Library for chat/combat text/other frame output, not quite finished.
14:45.12charonpb_ee1: http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_072407_203245.jpg
14:45.18jmedeltron: i'm levelling a pally for that reason.. tired of spamming steady shot and beastial wrath
14:45.21charonminus the grid window, i was testing it that night
14:45.21break19yacoob: speak not its name!
14:45.41yacoobbreak19, I need it to tell someone to stay away from it :D
14:45.44jmei'm easily in the top 2 dps spots in kara, until the lock uses seed of corruption on illhoof and just takes over
14:45.49nevcairielAntiarc|Work: his global threat from bloodrage showed ( he is a warrior ) but target specific not
14:46.27break19yacoob: ok.. its ti.. ti... gaaahhh I cant even say it
14:46.29charonpb_ee1: my "problem" is that i have a 1400x1050 14.1" notebook display. so if you have say a 17" LCD run at 1280x<whatever> or the like, of _course_ it's going to look huge, but i need that size or it would be unreadable and/or unnoticeable
14:46.37yacoobbreak19, come oooooon! :D
14:46.45break19titan panel :p
14:46.48yacoobah!
14:46.55yacoob*slap* forgetful me!
14:46.58pb_ee1charon: i'm running on a 15'' with a 1280x800 size
14:47.11pb_ee1interface reduced to 1/2 size though
14:47.14mitch0lot of folks steal swear by titan panel
14:47.27mitch0s/steal/still/
14:47.37pb_ee1i've enabled auto-hiding of the fubar, too, to have a little more space
14:47.40mitch0and DamageMeters, too. go figure
14:47.41yacoobmitch0, some folks swear by sheep instead women. We can pity both.
14:47.46yacoob8)
14:47.49mitch0;)
14:48.01break19I swear by titan.. no.. wait.. thats AT
14:48.22pb_ee1and i still have a feeling of "too big" on your screenshot. but the second one is better than the first one ;p
14:48.25mitch0I kinda like Vio though. all I need now is a per-window reset policy ;_)
14:48.43CIA-2203rabbit * r44800 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (SinkLib/ SinkLib/placeholder.txt filelist.wau): !!!StandaloneLibraries: Add Sink-1.0.
14:48.52yacoobAT AT?
14:49.36Dustwhisper|http://tinyurl.com/ypzbw3 my new UI
14:49.43Dustwhisper|no idea where im gonna put recount/decursive though
14:50.21charonpb_ee1: are that Grid raid frames on your screenshot?
14:50.29CIA-2203rabbit * r44801 10AuraToChat/ (AuraToChat.lua AuraToChat.toc libs/): AuraToChat: Use SinkLib for output and some other changes.
14:51.42mitch0dust: you don't need recount being open all the time, so you could just put it in the middle, right?
14:51.43CIA-2203rabbit * r44802 10BanzaiAlert/ (BanzaiAlert.lua BanzaiAlert.toc embeds.xml libs/): BanzaiAlert: Use SinkLib for output.
14:52.37Azurewrathvhaarr: uuhm... i thought there was Soar doing the sct/whatever output stuff?
14:52.37Dustwhisper|having to type /command or having to go somewhere to click open it mitch0 would annoy me even more
14:52.38mitch0dust: what's the point in obscuring a good portion of the viewport though?
14:52.46vhaarrAzurewrath: um, okay
14:52.50Dustwhisper|where am I obscuring any of the viewport ?
14:53.01Dustwhisper|pb_ee1 i honestly can't find out how to place the sections above eachother instead of next to eachother pb_ee1
14:53.01mitch0dust: keybinding?
14:53.21mitch0I have ctrl-shift-d bound to toggle violation. works for me
14:53.29Azurewrathvhaarr: i just overread the whole topic tbh, just wondering
14:53.43mitch0dust: the bottom part
14:54.05CIA-2203rabbit * r44803 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Libs/ Plugins/Messages.lua embeds.xml): BigWigs: Use SinkLib for output.
14:54.07Dustwhisper|that's not obscuring anything at all
14:54.30mitch0ok, technically that might not be the viewport now but it could be. I'd rather have some stuff peek out from under my controls than be completely grayed out
14:54.37Dustwhisper|it creates a backdrop which makes it so scenery/crap doesn't disturb chatwindow/buttons/castbars etc and makes it cleaner
14:54.42Dustwhisper|and it also creates a focalpoint towards center
14:54.51mitch0hohum
14:54.53Dustwhisper|I seldom remove my eye from around the center of screen while in combat
14:55.12CIA-2203rabbit * r44804 10ErrorMonster/ (7 files in 2 dirs): ErrorMonster: Use SinkLib for output.
14:55.19Dustwhisper|hence why bossbars around center when im raiding
14:55.22evlWhat's this Sink
14:55.30mitch0it's Sinking in
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14:57.27baer_hello.
14:57.56baer_i got some questions moving my addon libs to a seperate directory, can anyone spare a minute?
14:58.46vhaarrI'll convert witchhunt later, need to get some dinner and raid soon
14:58.59evlso what does sinklib DO
14:59.01baer_enjoy :)
14:59.02Fisker-dinner :)~
14:59.02deltronconvert it?
14:59.28Azurewrath[16:45:00] <CIA-22> rabbit * r44799 SinkLib/ (6 files in 3 dirs): .Sink-1.0: Library for chat/combat text/other frame output, not quite finished.
15:00.47vhaarrit needs a way to register custom output sinks
15:00.57vhaarrfeel free to add it, someone
15:00.58pb_ee1charon: yes, it's grid
15:01.33pb_ee1Dustwhisper|: what can't you find out?
15:01.33baer_so, anyone can help me with a "Error: attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' (a nil value)" after moving AceLibrary to <wow>/Interface/Addons/!!!Libs/ ?
15:01.53pb_ee1why did you move acelibrary to !!!Libs?
15:02.26baer_it's some preconfigured interface I downloadloaded from giga.de
15:02.43pb_ee1ho i'm not sure how it has been configured
15:02.54pb_ee1but it seems strange that you must put ace2 in !!!libs
15:03.00Dustwhisper|pb_ee1 how to get arkInventory to have the sections on top of eachother instead of next to eachother
15:03.04pb_ee1try pulling it out and place it at: interface/addons/ace2
15:03.06baer_'guess i need some fitting toc...
15:03.39pb_ee1Dustwhisper|: ha i see. you cannot reduce the number of sections in one line, it's hardcoded (it seems) to 5
15:03.55pb_ee1so the only thing i would recommend
15:04.14pb_ee1is to create several new lines and put your config only in the first column
15:04.27pb_ee1(on the right, obviously)
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15:05.40nevcairielAntiarc|Work: wake up already =P
15:06.15Silviu-vhaarr now the nice thing would be if Antiarc|Work use SinkLib too no ?
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15:09.18Amadeo"Windows Vista share was 4.52% in June"
15:09.20Amadeolol
15:09.28CIA-2203andalia * r44805 10Tattle/Gladiator_EU9/EU9.lua:
15:09.28CIA-22Tattle:
15:09.28CIA-22- Data-Update for EU9
15:10.13Chompersany arms warriors here?
15:10.21Chompersor fury warriors
15:11.25AmadeoI'm a former Warrior
15:11.34Amadeoonly did Arms
15:11.51Chompers'blood craze' is it worth 3 points?
15:11.58Amadeonope
15:12.08Chompersi've always skipped it before, but health regen seems nice
15:12.13Amadeothough some might disagree with me
15:12.24break19i've know furies that loves it
15:12.28HealthWhat does Gladiator show? Info on opponent team?
15:12.36vhaarrSilviu-: he could, the difference is that Sink offers other output sinks than scrolling combat text addons
15:13.21Silviu-vhaarr well ok :) thx for the info :)
15:15.18AmadeoChompers: Why are you going Fury?
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15:16.05Chompersi'm sticking with arms/ms but moving some points around
15:16.17Amadeooh, ok
15:16.36Chompershttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kul+Tiras&n=Chomps
15:17.07Chompersand ill make the new one now:
15:17.07AmadeoChompers is a girl!
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15:18.44Chompersto this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVMxdNbox0dbZVVzuMxoZc
15:19.21Chompers3 in bloodcraze, or move the points into commanding presence
15:19.36AmadeoI honestly haven't been keeping up enough since I quit to give you solid advice :P
15:19.43Chompers:P
15:19.47jmefinally upgrading my old pc slightly so i can play wow on it instead of my laptop
15:19.56jmeit'll be a little slower, but should still be playable
15:19.59_Stan_Chompers: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Zirkel+des+Cenarius&n=Stanzilla best Fury skill imo
15:20.02jmeslower than my laptop is.. haha
15:20.25Chompersi'm one vortex off my t3 lionheart
15:20.29AmadeoYou're all girls :P
15:20.30Chompersso noooooo fury
15:23.03AmadeoI still haven't been able to find a good new server :(
15:23.38Megalonfury without imp zerk stance :X
15:27.29AzurewrathChompers: i looted 6 Vortex on the way from Al'ar to Astrocunt yesterday ;)
15:27.36Chompersbastard
15:27.37CIA-2203saroz * r44806 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Remove this cache shit, cause it was causing problems.
15:28.00Azurewrathmade two happy Hunters and a happy Mage :)
15:28.14Chomperswe don't go to ssc since we started mag, so i'm stuck with 4
15:28.18Chompersgathering dust
15:28.58Azurewrathyou went to ssc before you killed mag?
15:29.06Chomperslurker to 30%
15:29.08Chompersyeah :p
15:29.31Kaydeethreeit wasn't that uncommon before the first round of nerfs, get around hydross and kill lurker or one of the other bosses
15:29.57Kaydeethreemag tended to happen around the same time that hydross kills did, raids working on them at the same time and such
15:29.58Chompersmag sucks, he really does
15:30.12binderwhere does apache look for icons when you have a virtual host set?
15:31.08Kaydeethreeif you don't override the /icons alias in your vhost declaration, vhost root/icons
15:31.58Antiarc|Work"You claim that KTM uses too much CPU, and yet omen uses up 2.25-7 MB when it's not even running. KTM uses only 800KB or so.  What's the deal?"
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15:32.49Azurewrathcool, cpu and ram are the same thing now?
15:33.10binderthanks
15:33.11Antiarc|WorkAwesome, I'm upgrading my CPU to a 400gb model today.
15:33.20Azurewrathhehe
15:33.37Kaydeethreebah, slacker. my cpu's a 800gb model.
15:33.43Kaydeethreethe scary thing is I'm about to run out of space again
15:34.11charonAntiarc|Work: i've noticed that pullout bars sometimes don't update the target-of-target label (in parens), even though they show the right threat. is that a known problem?
15:34.23charonalso, any news on my patch? (haven't updated today yet, still at work)
15:34.26Antiarc|Workcharon: I hadn't heard a report on it before - I'll check it out.
15:34.29LyfeAntiarc|Work: god, you and him are still going at it over design of a threat system?
15:34.43Antiarc|WorkLyfe: That was a random one-off comment from someone else.
15:34.53Antiarc|Workcharon: Doh! I'd completely forgotten about it. I have it bookmarked at home.
15:34.57Antiarc|WorkSorry :(
15:35.19Lyfeoh, ok.
15:36.38Antiarc|WorkKenco and I seem to have come to an implicit truce, at least for the time being ;)
15:37.00`Cyrici lurv mynew lappy
15:37.05Chomperscalm before the storm
15:37.17`Cyricbest part about it was that in linux the 1100xpressradeon reads as 200m chipset
15:37.37`Cyricand everyone that reviewed it complains that its a x200 not an 1100becuase they're dumb ;P
15:38.00charonAntiarc|Work: :)
15:38.06Azurewrathit's to late for Kenco anyway i guess... most ssc+ guilds switched to Omen already
15:38.10charonAntiarc|Work: here's a screenshot that sort of shows the problem: http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_072407_231251.jpg
15:38.11Lyfean implicit truce, or just a lack of anything else to say to each other? ;)
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15:38.32Antiarc|WorkMore the latter :P
15:38.44Kaydeethree...I hate being remote tech support for the majority of the extended family
15:38.48charonAntiarc|Work: notice how acoon supposedly "tanks" a group member while he doesn't even have a target (the ToT frame would appear just to the right of the T frame in my setup)
15:39.09Kaydeethree"James, how do I underline text?" Oh, I'm not using a word processor or any other rich-text program"
15:39.17Antiarc|WorkHahah
15:39.23Antiarc|Workcharon: Aha, okay. Thanks.
15:39.32`Cyrickaydee: realvnc+thenm giving you the ip+telling them that if its a dumb question youll stop talking to them
15:39.46`Cyricthats what i did to my mom and sister
15:39.58charonAntiarc|Work: in fact the bar said "Acoon (Wolf)" all throughout the steamvaults ;)
15:40.11KaydeethreeI threatened to stop providing support to windows users last year if I kept getting idiotic questions. it helped, a little
15:40.18`Cyricinstalled a remote client and told em that i'd never talk to them again if they asked me to fix something stupid, i even bookmarked google for them so it was easier ;P
15:41.05Azurewrathi've taken virtually all rights from my mom's user account on her computer.. she can browse with firefox and do her office stuff.. works flawlessly for 3 years or something now
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15:41.20art3miswhats really awesome is that my mom and sister chat constantly on im's andmy mom has my hotmail account and she still hasnt figured out that she can add me to yer msn messenger ;P
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15:41.38art3misyer==hre
15:41.40art3misher
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15:41.58art3misyeah i installedmy moms machine before i left for new york 4-5ish years ago
15:42.04art3mishasnt had to do anything major to it
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15:43.25art3misoh man this downy spray on wrinkle removeris awesome!
15:44.02art3misbuttonup shirt thats been in a ball in my laundry bag, hang it up spray with the downy stuff POOF it's almost like its been ironed
15:44.20Josh_Borkeomg
15:44.21Josh_Borkemust buy
15:44.27Josh_Borkemaybe my fiancee will stop bitching at me
15:44.30art3misyes you must
15:44.34art3misits amazing
15:44.47art3misits almost as rad as that areosol infomercial stuff
15:44.56art3miswhich is insanely amazing too
15:45.05jmehttp://www.knitemare.org/cats/serious_cat.jpg
15:45.23AmadeoMy favorite was always monorail cat
15:45.38art3misinvisible bike!
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15:48.48baer_*grmpf*
15:49.07baer_anyone else got trouble "authenicating" while logging into wow?
15:49.35Azurewrathwhat was the url of that kitten site again?
15:49.40deltronI had one from a year or so ago as my wallpaper that was like "do you like karate?"
15:50.22art3miswww.ratemykitten.com
15:50.43art3misright nowmy desktop background is the cheshire cat from american mcgee's alice
15:51.08art3misin the morning wake up stupor before coffee it's a touch disturbing
15:51.08deltronhttp://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:OCwRkB3MV_NggM:http://www.knitemare.org/cats/karate.jpg
15:51.12deltrondoh
15:51.17deltronwww.knitemare.org/cats/karate.jpg
15:52.20*** join/#wowace moonsorrow (n=moonsorr@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-070.hsi.kabelbw.de)
15:52.45art3mishttp://wallpapers.dpics.org/18__American_McGee's_Alice,_Cheshire_Cat.htm
15:54.13jmeart3mis: that is a little disturbing
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15:54.37art3misif you've never played the game i highly reccomend it
15:54.48art3misdisturbing doesnt relaly cover just how fucked up it is
15:55.28vrakthat game owns
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15:57.20art3misits almost as creepy as when phantasmagoria first came out
15:58.18sbmhmhmhm
15:58.29sbbaer_: yes :/
15:58.39sbeu login server down
15:58.46sbor broken
16:00.03Silviu-Yes i notice ...
16:00.09Silviu-I rebooted my comp 5 mins before raid
16:00.12Silviu-And .. hrr
16:00.25art3misno lewtz 4 u
16:00.42Silviu-Yes :(
16:01.04|Pixel|will come back soon...
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16:03.49baer_great :)
16:04.13sbi know why we wont ever have 25 raid on 'patch/maint.-day' ;o
16:04.24baer_http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304242060&sid=3 <-- thread concerning the eu login server problem, with blue answer.
16:04.45baer_anyone from US servers here?
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16:06.13art3misa few of us yeah
16:07.24baer_do you have massive problems with the servers after maint/patchday, too? :)
16:07.36|Pixel|ha ha ha
16:08.00baer_can't remember to many wednesdays where the server worked, after the mantainance was done. ^^
16:08.45Silviu-;))
16:08.51Silviu-Btw login server is on
16:08.52Silviu-;)
16:08.53Silviu-on eu
16:09.08sbno
16:09.33baer_nope, does not work.
16:10.34vhaarrworks here
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16:11.30art3mishrm i need anew ring-mp3
16:11.32sbyup, working
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16:11.49baer_hmm... not here.
16:11.57baer_still stucking in "Authenticating"
16:12.23art3misits a toss up between acdc back in black and deep purple space truckin
16:13.09baer_ok, i'm in.
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16:13.22art3mishrm maybe pantera fucking hostile would be good too ;)
16:13.36Fisker-|Pixel| :D
16:13.46|Pixel|hm ? :)
16:13.57Fisker-poor liasanai
16:14.05|Pixel|liasa-what ?
16:14.06Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304171473&sid=1
16:14.06art3misno the us servers are flawless they never break or get bagged on maint/patch day
16:14.08art3misever
16:14.11Fisker-one of your web editors
16:14.12art3misnever ever
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16:14.22Azurewrathgaaaah... i want my vacation now..
16:14.24art3mis</sarcasm>
16:14.38Fisker-btw when are we getting the interceptor as optional? :P
16:14.56art3misaug 12th
16:15.05Fisker-me has a vacation
16:15.06art3mis2009
16:15.28|Pixel|hm
16:15.34Azurewrathabout a week to go until Wacken Open Air :)
16:15.35|Pixel|I wonder who it is
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16:16.12baer_yeah, waaaacköööön! :)
16:16.21Fisker-dunno
16:16.32Fisker-but that link interceptor better get optional soon :(
16:16.36Fisker-i hate having to click twice
16:16.52Kaydeethreeopen it in a new tab
16:17.00Azurewrathbaer_: hehe right :)
16:17.09Fisker-i know Kaydeethree
16:17.12Kaydeethreeplay with noscript to have it not run the javascript hackery during onclicks()
16:17.13Fisker-habbit though
16:17.15baer_yeah, i really look forward to this years' woa.
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16:18.01Fisker-woa?
16:18.06Azurewraththe lineup is great.. and afterall.. a week full of Beer, grilled Meat, Bear, good Music, Beer and Beer :)
16:18.15baer_woa = wacken open air
16:18.21Fisker-ah
16:18.23mjcwho was it I was talking to the otehr day about scraping armory for item prices
16:18.25Fisker-(whatever that is)
16:18.30AzurewrathFisker-: Wacken Open Air, the largest Heavy Metal Festival in Europe or something ;)
16:18.33mjchttp://scloader.sourceforge.net/
16:18.35Fisker-dunno mjc but it's teh ILLEGALZ
16:18.38art3misman thats a job i want
16:18.45art3mis"English Web Editor"
16:18.51cryogengrilled bear?
16:18.57Azurewratherr.. Beer.
16:19.06baer_*hehe*
16:19.23art3misno the bear is raw
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16:19.35art3missince he specified it seperately from the grilled meat ;P
16:19.51Azurewrathit was a typo :p
16:19.56art3misnuh uh!
16:20.02art3misyou germans are crazy
16:20.07art3misits totally bear
16:20.16sbmhmmm beer
16:20.19art3misand black forest wolf kabobs
16:20.26Azurewrathhaha
16:20.45Azurewrathi prefer Poached Bluefish
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16:21.02art3misi gotcher poached bluefish right here!
16:21.47art3mismeh the onlything worse than having to go to a clients site when you dont feel like it is having to go to the office merely to check snailmail for cheques
16:22.42art3misalthough i suppose falling spread eagled onto punji sticks covered in fugu poison would suckpretty bad too
16:23.13Mudkipslol
16:23.13art3misor being digested for 1000 years in the stomach of a sarlac
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16:25.49Megalon1000 years always reminds me of
16:25.51Megalonhttp://www.bootyproject.org/images/misc/kancho_naruto_large.jpg
16:25.57Megalonone thousand years of pain!
16:26.56CIA-2203poull * r44807 10PallyPowerInfo/PallyPowerInfo.lua: PallyPowerInfo: Added localization from PallyPower and corrected typo.
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16:27.17RogueShadow;)  I like telling people to go get parrot
16:27.46Megalonparrot is a pain in the ass? :P
16:29.37AmadeoI tried CowTip last night - Wall of Text crits you for 10000000!
16:30.14Megalon:D
16:30.56Megalonin ckknight's addons the aceoption tables are bigger than some addons ;P
16:31.14sbRogueShadow: why? :o
16:31.15AmadeoYeah, I think PitBull and CowTip are great, just wish they had some sane defaults
16:31.56RogueShadowlol
16:32.01AmadeoI turned on the config mode in PitBull and my chair flipped backwards
16:32.11RogueShadowI believe it
16:32.44Amadeohahaha, OLPC is selling out
16:32.54RogueShadowBecause i'm using parrot, and its' easier to help them do stuff if were using the same addon. mostly.
16:32.54AmadeoThey're gonna sell em commercially for $350
16:32.55RogueShadowR
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16:33.54cncfanaticsyo all
16:34.47fireglowbest minimap mod?
16:35.09vithosfireglow: try them out and decide for yourself
16:35.15Chomperssimpleminimap
16:35.28fireglowthanks Chompers :)
16:35.31fireglowand thanks vithos too
16:35.38fireglowbut i wanted a good one to start with
16:35.53vithosi use simpleminimap as well
16:36.15Amadeooh yeah, that's the other thing I need
16:36.18Amadeoa chat addon
16:36.40cncfanaticshmmmm, could someone help me ?
16:36.59vithosis there a less painful way to get meaningful cpu profiling than deleting all my libs and reinstalling all addons with externals?
16:37.11cncfanaticsI'm currently working on slashcommand stuff for flexbar2, ala flexbar1, wonder if I should make it into a library, might be usefull for other people ? or not ? :p
16:37.16ChompersAmadeo: 'Prat'
16:37.25Chompersthat's all you need for chat addons
16:37.40RogueShadowPrat. yes indeed
16:37.56AmadeoPrat's much more than I need
16:38.10AmadeoI just need simple
16:38.12RogueShadowPrat is a collection of things.  disable what you don't need
16:38.14Azurewrathit's modular, just disable what you don't need
16:38.20RogueShadowsimple. stick with default?
16:38.23jmewhat they said
16:38.25Azurewrathbut if you want it really simply, try vChat
16:38.25RogueShadowenable simple mode
16:38.36AmadeoLast I used Prat, it ate up memory like it was going out of style :P
16:39.29Amadeowhat are the numbers like for it now?
16:40.09vithoswho knows, memory usage is not performance
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16:40.56AmadeoI just don't see using tons up for chat
16:41.00Amadeomaybe for something more significant
16:41.29Amadeodisable all your addons and check your framerate, it'll be higher than with them enabled :P
16:42.07Silviu-i use SimpleChatMods
16:42.17Silviu-Verry usefull and exactly what i needed from prat
16:42.17Silviu-;)
16:42.30durcyntekChat > most, still.
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16:42.41vithosyes, your framerate will be better with no addons.  because addons use cpu time, not because they use memory
16:42.44durcynprat's come a long way since idchat2
16:42.51durcynand not all of it's been for the better
16:43.07Amadeovithos: They both come into play, if you're paging you're going to lose performance
16:43.28AmadeoI liked idchat better
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16:44.08Amadeoand when I asked what the numbers for Prat were these days, I meant both CPU and Memory use :)
16:44.16cncfanatics~seen Nargiddley
16:44.21purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 14s ago, saying: 'i dont think that would affect visibility, it mostly shows as controls not sitting next to each other correctly'.
16:44.22vithosif you're paging a game, you have a bigger problem than choosing a different chat addon
16:44.26cncfanatics~shoot Nargiddley
16:44.26purlACTION shoots Nargiddley in the eye with a quantum singularity weapon!
16:44.42Kaydeethreeholy hell, I got a thread stickied on the PTR
16:44.48AmadeoI don't understand the new mentality that people have where they don't care how bloated the apps they use are
16:44.53NM|Xinhuanif i use frame:setscript("onclick", blah), do i have to define the blah() function before the setscript()?
16:44.54AmadeoI guess it's a new school thing
16:45.32cncfanaticsNM|Xinhuan> yes
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16:45.46NM|Xinhuanotherwise it will setscript to "nil" right?
16:45.51cncfanaticsyep
16:45.52dylanmYeah.
16:45.55cncfanaticsas its a reference
16:46.02cncfanaticsblah references to nil if it aint set
16:46.15NM|Xinhuanso i have to move all my frame creation and setscripts to the bottom of my lua file, rather than the top
16:46.30cncfanaticsnot necessarly, depends on ur style
16:46.51cncfanaticsI usualy declare both at once
16:47.14cncfanaticsframe:setscript("onclick", function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage("BLAH BLAH BLAH"); end);
16:47.19AmadeoIs there a way to import PitBull layouts?
16:47.23vithosAmadeo: i do care about bloat, hence i use a modular chat addon :P
16:47.27NM|Xinhuani have several frames that use the same function, so i'll rather just define the function once, than have multiple of that function compiled
16:47.31NM|Xinhuanget what i mean?
16:47.44cncfanaticsyea
16:47.49cncfanaticsu mean referenced btw not compiled :)
16:47.55Amadeovithos: Then I guess it's improved significantly since I last used it :)
16:47.56NM|Xinhuanwell yeah ;p
16:48.12cncfanaticsI'd do this then
16:48.18cncfanaticslocal function blah() ... end
16:48.29cncfanaticsframe:setscript(...);
16:48.39cncfanaticseasy enough
16:48.49AmadeoWhat's the bag addon of choice these days?
16:49.05cncfanaticsbaggins imo
16:49.16sbarkinv for me
16:49.18NM|Xinhuanno bag addon ;p
16:49.34NM|Xinhuanthe default 5 bags works perfectly fine without extra-addon-influence
16:50.00vithosif it ain't broken, don't improve it?
16:50.03fireglowok sorry if this sounds stupid but how do i bind keys to bartender? :S didnt find anything
16:50.14cncfanaticsckknight, ping
16:50.23NM|Xinhuanwell i just don't feel it is necessary for bags, but that's just an opinion
16:50.23dodgizzlafireglow: Use the Blizzard keybinding stuff
16:50.25vithosfireglow: press escape, keybindings
16:50.26jmefireglow: use blizzard's keybindings
16:50.32fireglowomg
16:50.33AmadeoYeah, I'm back and forth on bag addons too
16:50.35fireglowwell thanks :)
16:50.36Amadeosometimes they're nice for sorting
16:50.37cncfanaticsfireglow, escape - key bindings
16:50.48fireglowyes thanks :)
16:51.08NM|Xinhuanbag addons can help you sort stuff, but sometimes they tries to do too much and you'll rather have your stuff be left exactly where you left it instead of it sorting for you
16:51.13hastedefault bags + oGlow + MrPlow = win :3
16:51.21Amadeowhat's oGlow do?
16:51.25AmadeoI wonder who made that addon!
16:51.31hastecolor the border based on quality
16:51.36Amadeonice :)
16:51.48RogueShadowonebag + mrplow is what i'm using
16:52.37cncfanaticsI like baggins when properly configured with lots of gear sets from closetgnome
16:52.49cncfanaticsI got 4 gearsets in my bags
16:52.54cncfanaticsone category for each is heaven
16:59.00cncfanatics~seen ckknight
17:00.55purlckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge #norganna #wowace. Has said a total of 108 messages. Is idling for 7h 47m 20s, last said: 'aceOptions'.
17:00.55Mudkipswow *drool* http://www.tomshardware.com/site/flash_videos/video_antec_p190_case_review.html
17:00.55Mudkipsme want this for my next build
17:00.55Codayusbaggins with closetgnome support is pretty slick.
17:00.55RogueShadow~seen InsanityPersonified
17:01.35purli haven't seen 'insanitypersonified', RogueShadow
17:01.35jmeMudkips: wow
17:01.53RogueShadowsweet case
17:01.53Drooliovery similar to my p180 but i think those extra fans are overkill
17:01.53cncfanaticspurl down ?
17:01.53purlhmm... down is hell, or the enemy's gate
17:01.53MudkipsDroolio, I have more fans than that
17:01.53jme200mm fan on the side? jeez
17:01.53CIA-2203gagorian * r44808 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu: - Added EotS wins/losses to the FuBar tooltip
17:01.53Mudkipsmine are just 80mm and a lot noisier
17:01.53CIA-2203cryect * r44809 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua):
17:01.54CIA-22Recount - Fixes tracking of threat
17:01.54CIA-22- Threats of zero are now shown in combat but upon leaving combat the last nonzero value is shown in the table instead
17:01.54Droolioi disable the top fan since my Tuniq cpu cooler blows directly to the back anyway
17:01.54mitch0ckk, vhaarr: ping
17:01.54RogueShadowDuel PSU's necesary these days?
17:01.54Mudkipsnot sure but it looks hot
17:01.54Cryectno
17:01.54CIA-2203gagorian * r44810 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: - Changed the method of how winning/losing a battleground is detected to pickup EotS wins/losses
17:01.54RogueShadowSLI graphics cards and   raid drives maybe? lol
17:01.54Cryectyou only get dual PSU's if you can't have the system die
17:01.54Cryectits just meant to be a hot backup in PSU failure
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17:01.57Gagorianckknight: Hope that's OK
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17:02.10jmeCryect: well, they're saying they use one for drives and stuff, and one for the motherboard and i assume video
17:02.26RogueShadowAmen to no sharp edge
17:02.38Cryectthe only reason you would do something foolish like that is if you are worried about the spikes that are caused by drives spinning up
17:02.42jmei think that is going to be my next case... forget lianli
17:02.54Cryectbut SATA and SCSI support delayed startup
17:03.27mitch0oh well, I'll commit it if none of you're around :)
17:03.31MudkipsI wonder how much it costs
17:03.35Mudkipsthis pc doesn't have sound T_T
17:03.43AmadeoPC speaker
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17:04.05AmadeoXuerian either
17:05.00Xuerianwho to the what now
17:05.00AmadeoShh, nobody tell him
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17:05.00cryogenhmm parrot doesnt behave nice when it's disabled
17:05.00Xuerianbastards
17:05.00AmadeoI wouldn't either
17:05.00mitch0ckknight: last call before commit
17:05.05ccKepdoes anyone here use Recount?
17:05.12cryogenckknight: would be nice if parrot cleared the screen when it's disabled :)
17:05.12jmei bet Cryect does
17:05.33mitch0jme: what makes you think so? :)
17:05.38jmemitch0: :O
17:05.49jmemitch0: he pretended to code it, i think
17:06.40jmewow, a work light installed in the case
17:06.40mitch0doh, they really protected Ace2
17:06.40mitch0anyone got commit rights to Ace2?
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17:07.48jmenot a bad video review
17:08.04jmeprobably too expensive for me though
17:08.08Mudkipshow much?
17:08.16jmenever said in the review
17:08.35jmehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129028&Tpk=Antec%2bP190
17:08.41jme$450 US
17:08.50Azurewrathmhm... how long was the wait time after you reseted an instance too often?
17:08.57Drooliohehe, ebuyer have the p190 for 224 squid inc vat
17:08.57Mudkipsthe look is similar tot he p180b
17:08.58durcyn5/hour
17:10.06Azurewrathyes i know it was five max.. but how long do you have to wait after you reached the limit?
17:10.06RogueShadowan hour?
17:10.06Droolioisn't it within an hour?
17:10.06Azurewrathdon't know.. thats why i ask ;)
17:10.06jmeafk
17:11.07CIA-2203cryect * r44811 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: Recount - Now displays "(Overall)", "(Current)", or "(Last)" based on what fight data is currently selected
17:11.07CryectccKep: Of course, heh what do you need to know?
17:11.32ccKepwell, didn't test it yet, but it looks like it can display some very nice information...
17:11.42ccKepthe only thing im concerned about is the memory usage...
17:12.46CryectIf memory is an issue you just basically have to go into config
17:12.46Cryectand disable recording of the time data is enabled
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17:14.00CryectAh nice I see SharedMedia got a bunch of new fonts
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17:16.22Mecdemortis updating !!!standalonelibraries supposed to delete half your libraries?
17:17.26evlSo Sinklib > Soar?
17:17.44CryectccKep: basically without time data recording (used for DPS graphs etc) it only takes a couple megs
17:17.48Cryectnormally less
17:18.26ckknighthey all, back
17:18.32ckknightGagorian: doubt it'll be an issue
17:18.47ckknightmitch0: pong
17:18.49ckknightcncfanatics: pong
17:19.17Amadeockknight: ping
17:20.19ckknightAmadeo: pong
17:20.24Antiarc|Workevl: I'm planning on depricating Soar, yes :P
17:20.32Amadeowoohoo
17:20.46Antiarc|WorkSinklib is basically what I wanted Soar to be when it was finished
17:20.50Antiarc|WorkSo I'll just depricate Soar :P
17:21.00Cryectso Soar was around for what 1 week? :-p
17:21.04durcyndamn it.  is it at least API compatible?
17:21.19MudkipsCryect, you play druid?
17:21.23Cryectyeah
17:21.42Antiarc|WorkNo, it's not API compatible, I'm afraid.
17:22.00Antiarc|WorkIt's the same idea though
17:22.03Mecdemortok i updated some addons including !!!standalonelibrary, and now half of my libraries are missing, nothing works, and i cant figure out how to get them back
17:22.07Antiarc|WorkYOu'll just have to change the mixin and the method na,e
17:22.09Antiarc|Workname*
17:22.42durcynalright.  let me know when Omen uses it so i can just crib yours then.
17:23.38Mudkipsgah damn you irc
17:23.48Amadeois TabletLib used to calculate CPU utilization? I'm wondering if that's why it's showing 15%
17:23.48MudkipsI've been doing /whois in WoW ...
17:24.02Cryectand expecting my class to show up in irc? :-p
17:24.07Cryectoh no whoops
17:24.10Cryecthehe
17:24.30MudkipsI think I'll try out recount
17:24.32Mecdemortnvm i think i got it
17:24.34CryectI've done that occasionally
17:24.57Mudkipsditched violation a while back and I haven't had any active meter for a while
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17:26.39Saint-Nhail hail robonia
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17:26.44Saint-Na name i didnt make up
17:28.09CryectMudkips: have any issues/comments feel free to tell me if I appear to be active :)
17:28.48jmes/tell/blame
17:29.23MudkipsI'm looking over it on EJ forums. Piecharts = win
17:29.55jmeFisker-: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/4087/
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17:31.22Saint-Nwow the wow installer sure is smart
17:31.22cncfanaticsGruul time :o
17:31.40Saint-Ni have a amd64x2 1.6 and it says that it doesnt meet the speed requirements
17:31.47CIA-2203oridan * r44812 10ShoutReminder/ (. ShoutReminder.lua embeds.xml):
17:31.47CIA-22ShoutReminder:
17:31.47CIA-22- added Soar to embeds
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17:32.11jmeSaint-N: probably just doesn't recognize the cpu type
17:32.47CIA-2203cryect * r44813 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Adds an options to allow autodeleting of old combatants (shares timer with time based data deletion)
17:32.52Saint-Nheh yeah
17:33.02Saint-Nit's not stupid it's advaaaaaaaaanced
17:33.05jmei don't remember but i think it did the same thing for me on my 2.33ghz core 2 duo (macbook pro) when i installed it in bootcamp once
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17:34.04jmeshhh, everyone quiet
17:34.47jmei didn't mean /quit
17:35.11Undinere recount. it would be nice if it didn't re-appear every time i log in
17:35.13deltronyou scared them off
17:35.27charoni sure wonder why ever wow guild forum registration so i've met so far has provisions for the visually impaired
17:35.28jmeyeah :(
17:35.30mitch0ckknight: yo. please commit the fix to AceConsole
17:35.35CryectUndine: Heh good point I keep forgetting that one >_<
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17:35.41CryectUndine: Will add that in a moment
17:35.42mitch0ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/71295
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17:36.05jmedeltron: whenever i drive up in my apartment complex with my loud jeep i hear everyone lock their cars with their remote key entry
17:36.09mitch0ckknight: not a proper diff now as vhaarr committed there, too, just copy-waste the line
17:36.29mitch0change/remove the comment as you see fit
17:36.30ckknightyou tested?
17:36.33mitch0yep
17:36.37NeoTronso hydross with your MT out (and being played by a guy who's good but who's never tanked the raid and normally plays a raid), and a new OT makes hydross. pain
17:37.29NeoTronnormally plays a rogue even
17:37.34mitch0fixes my problem :)
17:37.43NeoTron9 wipes.. but at least we got hydross and lurker
17:37.52jme:X
17:37.55NeoTroncan't wait for the MT to return from hawaii. so careless of her to take time off
17:38.13NeoTronwe also were down 3 regular paladins and they usually lead healing meters so.. yeha
17:38.13CIA-2203cryect * r44814 10Recount/GUI_Config.lua: Recount - Exposes the option for pet merging on the config window
17:38.56cncfanaticsckknight: why is my druid's self rejuv not shown in parrot ?
17:39.07UndineCryect, super, thanks :)
17:39.13ckknightcncfanatics: no idea
17:39.57MudkipsI wonder if hyjal has some kind of crashing bug in it
17:40.11Mudkipswe had people disconnect left and right during trash
17:40.24deltronI'm not that far :(
17:40.33Mudkipsthat place gives me headaches
17:40.46deltronwe're working on SSC now :/
17:40.53MudkipsI'll feel a lot better about it when the trash starts giving some freakin' reputation
17:41.28deltronthe fights look like they are a blast
17:41.33CryectNot seen people crash a lot in hyjal
17:41.40Cryectthe fights in Hyjal suck
17:41.57Cryectthe ideas sound good
17:41.57NeoTronI'm kind of looking forward to hyjal
17:41.58Cryectbut they don't quite play out as well as they sound
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17:42.01NeoTroneven if it sucks, the concept seems fun
17:42.08NeoTronbecause it's similar to black morass which is a blast
17:42.15cncfanaticsckknight: bug ? :p
17:42.28NeoTronand as said, getting rep for trash makes it a bit less painful to wipe on it
17:42.28ckknightcould be
17:42.43CryectAlso archimonde in his current state is annoying :-p
17:42.57NeoTronCryect: that I can understand
17:43.05CryectI thought blizzard had learn retard checks where if one retard dies youa re screwed is bad with Magtheridon
17:43.07NeoTronfrom reading about the fight it seems frustrating
17:43.17Mudkipswe got azgalor last week and someone decided to aggro archimonde
17:43.18NeoTronI really hate fights where a single person can wipe the raid
17:43.21CryectIf player death was more forgiving the fight would be a lot better
17:43.23xb95yeah
17:43.26cncfanaticsCryect, I love retard checks :p
17:43.28Mudkipshe did this huge red lightning that killed all of us for 999999 LOL
17:43.28Cryector if the fear was slightly shorter duration
17:43.36break19cncfanatics: I dont.. my bank wont cash em
17:43.40Antiarc|WorkI hate C'Thun because of the retard check.
17:43.45NeoTronmags, hydross, leotheras (dps or healer pulling in a transition)...
17:43.51Antiarc|WorkWe had several mages at the time who just didn't get positioning
17:43.59NeoTronheck eevn vashj due to the dps requirements is unforgiving.. but somewhat different
17:43.59Antiarc|WorkAnd every attempt, would chain the eye beam into several people
17:44.14Cryectretard checks are fine till its the same people over and over again
17:44.29jmeisn't the point to expose those people?
17:44.40MudkipsVashj is a fun but hectic fight if the raid is working properly
17:44.48NeoTronproblem is if itisn' the same ppl all the time
17:44.58NeoTronif it's the same guy every time, just kick him out
17:44.59Mudkipswhat really gets things out of hand are the side dps who miss the tainteds
17:45.02cncfanaticsCryect, thats what gkick is for
17:45.04Cryectbasically, but getting them to admit they fucked up and not do it again is hard and you can't exactly just kick them often if you have no replacement for them
17:45.23cncfanaticswell, if its rly them OVER & over & over again they have no place at mt hiyal -.-
17:45.24NeoTronbut overall I dont like such unforgiving fights
17:45.26jmeCryect: that's what /ginvite is for
17:45.30Cryectcncfanatics: yarr we do that but it still takes time to find replacements and cant gkick till you got someone to replace with
17:45.30cncfanaticss/hiyal/hyjal/
17:45.36NeoTronfor example hydross would be a bit better if you had a few seconds to correct a mistake
17:45.47MudkipsCryect is right lol
17:45.57Mudkipsthere aren't much players to readily /ginvite
17:45.59jmeCryect: i'm going to transfer my horde off and reroll alliance if you get me a spot in Imp
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17:46.18Cryectif you suck your replacement is likely on there way within 2 weeks or so:-p
17:46.44jmeor just pay for a second account
17:47.01deltronheh what server?
17:47.06jmestormreaver
17:47.08Cryectstormreaver
17:47.10Cryectpractically dead
17:47.16jmehorde side, at least
17:47.18Cryectyeah
17:47.34jmei like the guild i'm in though, which is why i don't want to leave or transfer off
17:47.39Cryectalliance its Impervious (which is recovering still from mass quitings) and Out of line
17:47.46CryectStay with them
17:47.49Cryectthen*
17:47.55jmehorde is catalyst, and i think they're still a couple months away from BT
17:47.58CryectBeing happy wiht your guild is the biggest thing
17:48.51jmedeltron: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114721745&sid=1
17:49.10jmeis our progression thread
17:49.39Cryectheh I see Impervious is out of date on there :-p
17:49.39NeoTronhttp://www.wowjutsu.com/us/stormreaver/
17:49.46jmeCryect: 5 bosses now?
17:50.14Cryectyeah
17:50.19deltronhttp://wowjutsu.com/us/suramar/ <-- that's my server :/
17:50.20Cryectthat website is cool Neotron
17:50.22deltronyou guys are ahead of us
17:50.27NeoTronCryect: indeed
17:50.28Cryectworks based off items it sees
17:50.34jmeNeoTron: didn't know that had the server specific functionality working yet, nice
17:50.44NeoTronit also has guild drilldowns
17:50.47Antiarc|WorkI wish I'd thought of wowjutsu
17:50.50Antiarc|WorkBecause it's brilliant
17:51.01CryectYeah
17:51.12NeoTronhttp://www.wowjutsu.com/us/kilrogg/ <-- my guild is Adrenaline
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17:51.24CryectI'm not really a web guy so I wouldn't but thats cool way of handling it which I assume works via Armory
17:51.25deltronmy guild dropped to 11th :(
17:51.32NeoTronwe're having a rough 2 weeks because of one of the MT's on vacation and the lack of some key healers
17:51.38Undinewish that guild rankings site worked for eu
17:51.39Amadeocool site
17:51.42Amadeodoes it track everyone?
17:51.43jmeCryect: 666.36, your guild is borderline evil
17:51.56Cryectdeltron: heh Impervious used to be up there at the very top before we lost like 80% of the people we had back in Naxx :-p
17:52.00sbPheredhel: did you change something with ccbreaker?
17:52.05sbworks now with deDE
17:52.13NeoTronit has its flaws though... because my guild never killed doomwalker or kazzak
17:52.23Pheredhelno, at least not in the last two weaks
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17:52.31NeoTrondamn I don't even know who Coercian is
17:52.37deltronmy server goes through regular bleedings from blizzard every so often with all the transfers off of it
17:52.40Pheredhelor three or four
17:52.56Amadeotransfers were probably one of the worst things Blizzard ever did to the game
17:53.05Amadeoruins too many servers
17:53.12Pheredhelright now I'm done with my exams, so I will have time to add things now ;)
17:53.13deltronmine was forced transfers heh
17:53.13NeoTronimho great
17:53.20NeoTronbecause it saved my WoW-life
17:53.43deltronman
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17:53.50deltronI wish I could go elemental instead of resto :/
17:54.04pb_ee1Cryect: ping
17:54.20jmewow
17:54.31jmethe guild drilldowns even list the people that transferred guilds, and what guild they moved to
17:54.47Cryectpb_ee1: pong
17:54.56mjcintel thread building blocks = fucking hottttt
17:55.09Kalman|Cryect: Least your Naxx guild didn't essentially disappear from existence.
17:55.38jmei'm the only one in my guild with garona's signet ring so far, heh
17:55.41pb_ee1Cryect: do you plan adding a fubar plugin to recount?
17:55.54CryectKalman|: true, and I don't really mind us being more casual than we were there for a while
17:55.59pb_ee1if no, boooo! if yes, and if you don't have time, i can try doing something for you
17:56.10CryectYes, I plan to add fubar eventually
17:56.18Cryectthere is some sort of Recount Fubar on curse
17:56.25CryectI have no idea how well it works though
17:56.28mjcjme: I have it :D
17:56.35pb_ee1very well actually, and very simple to add
17:56.36jmemjc: :D
17:56.49pb_ee1this is why i was telling you i could eventually do it
17:56.50jmemjc: http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/stormreaver/Booty%20Bay%20Bandits.html#_karazhan
17:56.55jmeuh... should've tinyurl'd that
17:57.15Cryectah, I will check out the curse one then and look at adding it then
17:57.51CIA-2203cryect * r44815 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Now saves whether the main window is visible or not for UI reloads
17:59.54pb_ee1is it possible to make banzaiAlert display the border of the screen in red when you get aggro (such as what Deadly Boss Mods do)
17:59.58pb_ee1? *
18:00.18Mudkipswow no thank you
18:00.23pb_ee1vhaar told me i could, but i cannot see anything that lets me do it
18:00.29MudkipsI guess it's not so bad as dps
18:00.39AmadeoWhich is the ultimate Battlegroup?
18:00.51Mudkipsthat omen threat alert scared the hell out of me when it was first inplemented
18:00.56Mudkipsimplemented*
18:01.12jmeAmadeo: in Rampage, if you're alliance, you win AV 85% of the time, if you're horde, you win AB and WSG 85% of the time
18:01.29jmeactually, i don't think i've won a single of the AV's i've been in horde side
18:01.45Mudkips^ that is true
18:01.48Amadeohmm
18:01.51AmadeoI want to go Horde :)
18:01.55jmeMudkips: are you in Rampage?
18:02.00Mudkipsno
18:02.06jmeoh :)
18:02.11Mudkipsbut its' pretty true for all realms
18:02.16jmeah
18:02.26Mudkipssince the AV layout is ridiculously... well you know :P
18:02.41CIA-2203ckknight * r44816 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - fix issue where different casings or aliases would be passed as passValues. (thanks, mitch0)
18:02.55Amadeojme: So what server should I go to? EST :P
18:03.07jmeAmadeo: no idea, mine is CST
18:03.07CIA-2203mitchell 07AceAddon * r44817 10RangeDisplay/README.txt: RangeDisplay: updated docs
18:03.18AmadeoI could do CST
18:03.31Amadeoas long as it's a server everyone isn't abandoning :P
18:03.37Amadeomost of the EST servers seem to suck
18:03.40AmadeoPvP, anyway
18:03.42jmeAmadeo: what i would do, is go to the various realm forums, look up their progression threads
18:03.50jmeAmadeo: find one with the progression level you like, and apply to that guild
18:03.58jmeor several of the guilds there
18:04.05Amadeooh, I'm not even looking for all that
18:04.08jmeahh
18:04.23AmadeoI just want a stable server, good pings, fast queues, people who like to PvP :)
18:04.40jmestormreaver's outdoor pvp is rather harsh
18:04.51jmebut i think it's fairly well known for its pvp
18:04.53cncfanaticsckknight
18:04.55cncfanaticsa small question
18:04.55Amadeohmm
18:05.00jmeamirite Cryect?
18:05.06Saint-Nhttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2983682&sku=E400-T5082&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1415C
18:05.13AmadeoIs that what you're on?
18:05.16cncfanaticsthink it would be worth it extending aceconsole to support flexbar1 style slashcommands, or even make a seperate library for that ?
18:05.18jmeyeah
18:05.20Saint-Np4 3ghz with vista 512mb and 120gb for only $269
18:05.31Thrae!t http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2983682&sku=E400-T5082&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1415C
18:05.32ThraeBotThrae: http://tinyurl.com/2cp6sh
18:05.39jmeSR has been around since day 1
18:05.40Saint-Nyeah sorry bout that
18:05.43Saint-N;)
18:05.59jmefirst level 60 character world wide was on SR too
18:06.11AmadeoThrae: That tinyurl bot is bad ass :)
18:06.19cncfanatics!api strfind
18:06.21ThraeBotcncfanatics: string.find(s, pattern [, init [, plain]])  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strfind
18:06.24cncfanaticsAmadeo, it does more then that
18:06.28wereHamsterSaint-N, 512mb for Vista? does it even boot on such computer?
18:06.40Amadeohah
18:07.07Amadeoit's Vista Basic, no Aero...not sure what it does at all
18:07.10ThraeIt also has Armory parsers
18:07.18Thrae!te us lightninghoof 3v3 severd ties
18:07.19ThraeBotThrae: Name: Severd Ties (3v3); Shadowburn (Alliance); Rank: 212; Rating: 1843; Last Season's Rank: 4124; This Season: 78/135 (58%) (Won/Played); This Week: 0/0 (0%);
18:07.38Saint-Nhttp://tinyurl.com/2726mj
18:07.39Amadeojme: Are there login queues?
18:07.42cncfanatics!armory eu khadgar evolve
18:07.45Amadeonice :)
18:07.46Saint-Nthat thingy is neat
18:07.51cncfanaticshmmm, whats the !command ?
18:07.55cncfanatics!armory dsnt work :p
18:07.56Saint-Nits like an iphone cept its 140 bucks ;P
18:08.03Thraecncfanatics: /msg ThraeBot help
18:08.16mjcThrae: armory parsing or armory mining and then parsing
18:08.27cncfanaticsThrae, tell me :(
18:08.32jmeAmadeo: no
18:08.50Thraemjc: Direct parsing...mining would take up all my HDD space ^^;;;
18:08.57Saint-Nhehe it doesnt run well on 512mb no, BUT you can always just run sopmething good on it and give the code for a different machine
18:09.05Thraecncfanatics: Messaging ThraeBot lists out the command clearly...
18:09.07jmei remember having a login queue when i first started playing alliance on Malorne back in november
18:09.10jmethat sucked
18:09.29mjcThrae: I can host it on a big box if you want
18:09.37deltron!te us suramar 2v2 kings of darkness
18:09.37ThraeBotdeltron: Name: Kings of Darkness (2v2); Cyclone (Horde); Rank: 2154; Rating: 1636; Last Season's Rank: 14452; This Season: 30/50 (60%) (Won/Played); This Week: 0/0 (0%);
18:09.51mjcThrae: /dev/sda2             319G  3.3G  316G   2% /mnt/sda2
18:09.57cncfanatics!c eu khadgar evolve
18:10.00ThraeBotcncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 13277 HP; 4428 Mana; 81 mana regen; 15394 Armour; 84.5 Melee DPS; 5.09% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 245 +spell dmg/heal; 325 defense; 18.19% dodge; 21.55% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27evs8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sm7vw ]]
18:10.11deltron!c us suramar diode
18:10.13deltronzomg prot
18:10.14ThraeBotdeltron: Diode, Level 70 Troll Shaman (0/7/54). 8919 HP; 9587 Mana; 179 mana regen; 81 mp5; 9576 Armour; 4.32% melee crit; 76 spell crit; 17 spell hit; 489 +spell dmg; 1116 +heal; 4.32% dodge; 6% block; 47 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/236ft3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y4nm5 ]]
18:10.34Thraemjc: Well actually, I have more then enough space...but the question is, what would I do with the mined data...
18:11.01[dRaCo]sell it!
18:11.04*** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdslfa030.osnanet.de)
18:11.14deltronmake a better warcraftrealms.com
18:11.17mjcThrae: parse it instead of hitting armory?
18:11.23deltronwith up to date historical data :D
18:11.26ThraeThere's no reason to mine anything but items, since characters and arena stats (the other two things it shows) change frequently
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18:12.23Cryect<PROTECTED>
18:12.26Cryectwhat outdoor PvP?
18:12.47CryectJust so little of it since server transfers on any server :(
18:13.17deltronheh my server has had 4 forced transfers so far
18:13.20*** join/#wowace Dotted (n=me@cpe.atm2-0-1291044.0x50a0c942.aaanxx2.customer.tele.dk)
18:13.22NeoTronheh
18:13.31NeoTronbest thing you could do with the data is to make a better armory
18:13.45NeoTronthat is more reliable and doesn't load like it's covered in gleu..
18:13.59NeoTronif there's one thing Blizzard fails at it's to make fast interactive websites
18:14.15mitch0I wonder what else I wanted to do with RangeDisplay before the next release...
18:14.48jmeCryect: heh
18:14.49cncfanaticsdeltron, prot yea ? whats wrong ? :p
18:15.07NeoTronwe have a rogue that's.. err. not so good
18:15.10deltroncncfanatics: nothing, my pally is going to be prot
18:15.14jmeCryect: most of the outdoor pvp is at the EP or halaa :/
18:15.22NeoTronbut he also has a protadin.. but trying to figure out if we can fit him into raids as prot pally
18:15.23deltroncncfanatics: just not many prot paladins, that's all
18:15.25NeoTronI love having one
18:15.36jmeor in nagrand
18:15.39jmein general that is
18:15.54jmeCryect: STV pvp seems to have picked up recently too
18:16.31jmeCryect: i was running around there on my hunter recently and got mowed down by a few 70s
18:17.46cncfanaticsdeltron> true :p
18:18.08deltronI like tankadins for some instances/raids
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18:19.15Josh_Borketankadin is good for multi-mob pulls
18:19.27deltrontankadin would be awesome for a fight like moroes
18:19.45Josh_Borketo hold one add?
18:19.51deltronhold them all
18:21.17Cryectjme: I like to see horde do what we do as alliance for halaa
18:21.28deltronwhat do you do?
18:21.40Cryectwe tank all 15 guards int he middle of halaa
18:21.42Cryectand bomb them
18:21.44mitch0will AceLibrary load my lib if it's LoadOnDemand and another addon requests an instance of it?
18:21.46jmelol
18:21.47deltronhaha
18:21.49deltronthat's awesome
18:21.50jmenice
18:21.57Cryectthey hit really weak on someone in tank gear
18:22.08jmedude, they hit weak on my freaking cat
18:22.09Cryectand its fun since horde think they have a chance
18:22.11jmei solod one
18:22.28jmeit took forever to kill because they have a ton of hp
18:22.38jmebut i did it when a few others kept the alliance busy
18:22.44Cryectget 50-70 tokens fast that way normally if there is a decent amount of horde
18:23.06deltronugh digg is getting so out of hand
18:24.05mikmaoh nice
18:24.18mikmathanks for making Ace2 addons paste all events there is into ChatFrame2
18:25.35cncfanaticsmikma, they do ? :o
18:25.49mikmayes, they do
18:25.52jmeCryect: what's your armory?
18:26.01deltronwut
18:26.14jmeCryect: nevermind
18:26.38cncfanaticsmikma, thats one addon then and not ace2 itself :p
18:26.52mikmacncfanatics: MrPlow and QuestsFu both do it
18:26.57mikmaeven when other is disabled.
18:28.11deltronI silenced MrPlow
18:28.14deltronit doesn't talk
18:28.40RogueShadowMrPlow pretty much keeps me from doing anything when I use it.
18:28.52deltrondon't keep your bags open I found
18:28.58RogueShadowhmm
18:29.00deltronunless you're doing the bank
18:29.01RogueShadowI'll try that
18:29.05CryectMrPlow is likely not at fault
18:29.07AmadeoAm I going crazy, or does anyone else notice their chat frame moving/twitching once and a while?
18:29.08deltronwhich you can't avoid
18:29.22Cryectits prolly some other addon, which says hey the inventory changed let me do something
18:29.30Cryectwhich should be bucketing the events
18:29.55deltronRogueShadow: you use arkinventory like me?
18:30.18RogueShadowdeltron: Nay, I am using OneBag
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18:31.04deltronprobably is the same issues though
18:32.34Amadeohahaha
18:32.45AmadeoI just did a few random names for a blood elf
18:32.50Amadeoand got "Celeron"
18:32.53deltronlol
18:33.11DynomAmadeo: ok, I'd say thats bad
18:33.12Mudkipsnice
18:33.19jmeAmadeo: I got Mendin for my pally
18:33.24jmeso i took it
18:33.45Amadeohah
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18:33.55Amadeois that your main?
18:34.02jmeno, my main is a hunter
18:34.06Gagorianckknight: Is it possible to get parrot to display what my pets devour magic dispelled?
18:34.09cncfanaticsAmadeo, realm, continent ?
18:34.12GagorianIt's available through combat log
18:34.18GagorianWould be very convenient to see though
18:34.25jmeMendin is level 13
18:34.36DynomGagorian: 'parrot' ? O.o
18:34.40Amadeocncfanatics: Just checking out servers, I'm looking at Stormreaver now :)
18:35.06jmeAmadeo: if you plan on raiding i would go alliance :(
18:35.19Amadeono plans for it
18:35.31jmeCryect should be soloing illidan by the time you get 70
18:35.35deltronI reserved the name for one of my pallies a while back, Bubblehearth
18:35.46deltronmy main pally is Pixel
18:35.47CIA-2203jncl * r44818 10Skinner/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
18:35.47CIA-22Skinner: Skinned JasonQuest
18:35.47CIA-22- updated Xperl skin
18:35.47CIA-22- Support for PTR changes
18:35.48jmedeltron: i've seen Bubbalicious
18:35.57jme(sp)
18:35.59CIA-2203mitchell * r44819 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.toc: RangeCheck-1.0: make it LoD
18:36.06deltronbetween the 2 guilds I'm in, there's a lot of bubble
18:36.06deltronheh
18:36.12jmedeltron: we have Lolade, Roflade, and i'm sure Gatorade and Powerade
18:36.21jmedeltron: i tried to make Badmedicine but it was taken
18:36.39deltronlol
18:37.10deltronhah
18:37.20deltronthey have user names on curse.com front page
18:37.29deltronone of them was "Phantomboner"
18:38.16jme:X
18:38.36jmesome hunter made it all the way to 68 with the name Bowjob
18:38.39jmebefore they made him change it
18:39.13MudkipsIt would be hard sending in tickets that those kinds of names
18:39.20Mudkipswith those*
18:40.20deltronmy server had someone with Ieatchildren get his name changed
18:41.08striperhey guys
18:41.22CIA-2203mitchell 07AceAddon * r44820 10RangeDisplay/ (8 files): RangeDisplay: minor tweaks
18:41.31stripersince the last update i get insane amounts of debug messages in my second chatwindow
18:41.43striperSinkLib probably?
18:42.46striperall kinds of debug messages, all kinds of MouseOver lines and stuff
18:42.49striperany idea?
18:43.24kergothGagorian, i saw an addon fro that on wowi the other day.. would just need to make it show in parrot, no?
18:43.56GagorianWell it's just parsed from combat log so should be rather simple to add yar
18:43.57striperor it's the Prat update... checkin
18:44.09NeoTroncheck out the leet rogue at spot 11: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=pgp54dchdflbi&s=6150-6597
18:44.38Antiarc|WorkOuch, mutilate on Hydross
18:44.41Antiarc|WorkSucks to be him.
18:44.45NeoTronwe replaced him
18:44.54Antiarc|WorkMutilate + unpoisonable mobs = teh suck
18:44.56NeoTronhe... likes to "try out new specs"
18:44.59NeoTronyeah
18:45.06NeoTronbut he pretty much sucks with multiate spec on any boss
18:45.23NeoTronhe often "tries a new spec" and uses blue weapons instead of his epic gear
18:45.27Antiarc|WorkHeh
18:45.36NeoTronlike he once had sword spec using FAST swords in mh/oh
18:45.40NeoTronand really really sucked
18:45.42deltronmutilate kinda sucks for raiding
18:45.49deltroncombat daggers ftw!
18:45.54NeoTronit's more of a pvp/solo spec
18:46.01Antiarc|WorkMutilate's a really nice balance for raiding/PVP...as long as the mob isn't poison immune.
18:46.02NeoTroncombat daggers or swords seems to be the best
18:46.03deltronI'd say solo really
18:46.12jmeNeoTron: your hunter couldn't beat the druid?
18:46.23deltronI was mutilate on my rogue, then went combat daggers a couple weeks back, what a HUGE difference
18:46.26Fisker-how is "presence" determined in wws?
18:46.32NeoTronhunters do really badly there for some reason
18:46.34deltronand I have terrible gear
18:46.36NeoTronboth of them
18:46.40jmeNeoTron: weird
18:46.48deltronI just got my first purples on him heh
18:46.49NeoTronbut the druid is good too
18:46.59jmeNeoTron: i'm usually right under the lock fighting with either the rogue or shadow priest for second in kara
18:47.06NeoTronplus had a enhancement shaman and some aoe
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18:47.17jmeNeoTron: until the lock puts seed of corruption on illhoof and his imps and just blows me away
18:47.36NeoTronwe also had a really rough night due to the tank/healing differences
18:47.40ChompersAntiarc: feature request for Omen, filtering based on user-defined playernames
18:47.43NeoTronhydross is not a fight for unfaimilar tanks
18:48.01jmeis wws based off a mod?
18:48.05jmeor how is the data collected?
18:48.09NeoTronhttp://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=pgp54dchdflbi&s=11247-11777 <-- although I have gimp tank spec I do pretty well
18:48.16Fisker-just combat log jme
18:48.18NeoTronthe pet did like 10% dmg which impressed me
18:48.28jmeFisker-: you just upload the combat log?
18:48.37jmeoh
18:48.38Saint-Ngimp!
18:48.42NeoTronyou run a program
18:48.47NeoTron'start wws client"
18:48.49jmeyeah i see the wws client now
18:49.00NeoTronI really want to go fully demo spec (felguard)
18:49.03deltronhmm
18:49.10NeoTronbut need to have 2 piece tier 5 to even try it
18:49.14deltronI need to get WWS on my server heh
18:49.27Saint-NNeoTron: you can get the oblivion set too to be sexy
18:49.30deltronwhat format does it require your meters to be in?
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18:50.59NimbleRabitI wish there was a way to load a characters profile for all my addons at once =/
18:51.24jmeNimbleRabit: same here
18:51.32NimbleRabitomg profiles don't go cross account?
18:51.33NimbleRabitT_T
18:51.37charonwtf.... who on earth made whatever addon a) break ErrorMonster and b) spam chatframe3
18:51.47charonhuge gz, you have just made my interface half unusable
18:51.52evlIt was me
18:51.54evlSorry
18:52.01NimbleRabitprofiles really should go cross account, I don't want to set all this shit up again just because I'm on a new account
18:52.21NeoTronSaint-N: well don't really need oblivion if you go deep enough into demo
18:52.22charonevl: what do i do to fix :(
18:52.29NeoTronsince lifetap feeds the pet
18:52.50evlcharon: j/k probably this new SinkLib
18:53.19ThraeNimbleRabit: You'd have to copy the SV files manually. Perhaps a script could be made, but there's no way to do it in an addon. Accounts have separate saved settings entirely.
18:53.25NeoTronNimbleRabit: dude
18:53.29NimbleRabitThrae: lame
18:53.34NeoTronNimbleRabit: SavedVariables is not cross-account
18:53.45NimbleRabit?
18:53.47NimbleRabitI'm saying it should be gawd
18:53.51NeoTronwhat Thrae said
18:54.01NeoTronand you can just copy the files
18:54.06deltronaww WWS is a pay service?
18:54.11alext4 flavors
18:54.14NeoTrondoesn't have to be
18:54.40jmedeltron: awwww
18:54.41alextwws "stage 1" is free
18:54.41NeoTronwe pay for it because we thought it was worth it
18:54.41alextthere are other stages or levels you could call it
18:54.41deltronI was hoping I could host it on my own server heh
18:54.41alextNeoTron: same
18:54.41NeoTronyou get the same data.
18:54.42alextI did like 2 free reports
18:54.46alextand just went right to level 4 for 3 months
18:54.46NeoTronjust depends on how fast you load and how long the data remains
18:55.00jmewell
18:55.02NeoTronfast you want to load rather
18:55.08jmewe aren't a hardcore raid guild so it might not be worth it to us
18:55.12alexthow fast it loads and how long the data remains
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18:57.24NM|Xinhuanhow do i create a button's "ButtonText" in LUA?
18:57.32jmehmm
18:57.43jme5v5 with 3 BM hunters, a healer, and a MS warrior...
18:58.08deltronlol
18:58.13jmei wonder if it could work
18:58.15deltron2 healers would be better
18:58.31deltronmy 2v2 team is me and a BM hunter
18:58.35deltronme being a resto shaman
18:58.40jmeyeah i need to find a healer for a 2v2
18:58.45NeoTrondeltron: lies. there are no resto shamans
18:58.46mitch0what's the best way of modifying the Version: in the 'About' info? I gather it's taken from the .toc
18:58.56deltronNeoTron: pfft
18:59.00Saint-N~wws
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18:59.07Saint-Nwhats wws?
18:59.15jmewow web sats
18:59.16jmestats
18:59.18NeoTronhttp://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=pgp54dchdflbi
18:59.19Saint-NWarcraft Wiener Society?
18:59.23jmeyes
18:59.51Saint-Nwell that seems kind of retarded to pay for
19:00.04Saint-Nwhat exactly is the point?
19:00.05NeoTronit's useful and fun and doesn't exactly cost a whole lot
19:00.16deltron!c us suramar diode
19:00.24ThraeBotdeltron: Diode, Level 70 Troll Shaman (0/7/54). 8919 HP; 9587 Mana; 179 mana regen; 81 mp5; 9576 Armour; 4.32% melee crit; 76 spell crit; 17 spell hit; 489 +spell dmg; 1116 +heal; 4.32% dodge; 6% block; 47 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/236ft3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y4nm5 ]]
19:00.34NeoTronto get detailed combat  log parsing and such to help find and resolve issues
19:00.35deltronheh that's me in my arena-ish gear
19:00.36*** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-b.landg1.lb.home.nl)
19:00.36Saint-Nbut free isn't that much either ;P
19:00.40NeoTronand to best optimized raiding
19:00.56Saint-Nwhats the shot from?
19:00.58NeoTronpay = no / small load queues and keeping data for more than 15 days
19:00.59Saint-Na single raid?
19:01.16Saint-Nshot == data
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19:01.19NeoTronthat is my guilds clusterfuck raid from last night...
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19:01.27Saint-Nahh so single shot
19:01.37deltronyea
19:01.38Saint-Nthats about the same as wowecon i suppose
19:01.48Saint-Nstill seems silly to me
19:02.01jmei love when people admit to being on a private wow server on the wow forums
19:02.02Saint-Nyou should con anti into making a free version ;P
19:02.15deltronjme: linkplz
19:02.19jmesec
19:02.26Saint-Nprivate wow servers are fun
19:02.26deltronheh
19:02.31NeoTronSaint-N: it's useful to us
19:02.32Saint-N*from and admin point*
19:02.37jmedeltron: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=2FD1179405C82A58D59271CA90E3443D?topicId=442895195&sid=1
19:02.38Saint-Nan
19:02.40jmeuhh
19:02.40NeoTronplus paying for it helps support the server hosting costs and development
19:02.47Saint-NNeoTron: oh i dont doubt it has its uses
19:02.49Thrae!t http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=2FD1179405C82A58D59271CA90E3443D?topicId=442895195&sid=1
19:02.51ThraeBotThrae: http://tinyurl.com/yt3vdd
19:02.54jmeyes
19:03.08CIA-2203mitchell 07AceAddon * r44821 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: finishing touches
19:03.30deltronjme: that is awesome
19:03.37jmedeltron: yeah
19:03.49Saint-Npost #5 makes me laugh
19:03.53jmedeltron: what's even better is one morning a 70 rogue starts talking in trade
19:03.59Saint-N"you knew full well you agree to the tos each patch day
19:04.03Saint-Nand?
19:04.07jmedeltron: something like "hi, i just bought this account, and i want to get on my friend's server.. how do i do that?"
19:04.17Saint-Nagreeing != reading
19:04.27jmedeltron: someone was like "give me your username and password and i'll do it for you"
19:04.30jmedeltron: he said ok
19:04.34kergothlol
19:04.36Saint-Nbahahahahaha
19:04.43jmei think he was dead serious too
19:04.47deltronhaha
19:04.54charonso would PLEASE somebody help me with this goddamn spam, i can't $%&#@! raid if after some random update my main chat frame is continuously being spammed with EVERY event the game signals
19:05.18Mudkipsdo a barrel roll, press R twice
19:05.20deltronthere's been a guy spamming trade chat wanting to trade his account with 2 70's for a pally for a while
19:05.41jmecharon: U U L L R R D D select select start
19:06.00jmedeltron: lol yeah i love that too
19:06.32kergothpretty sure it wasnt u l r d.. wasnt it uu dd at the beginning or so?
19:06.40CIA-2203oridan * r44822 10ShoutReminder/ (ShoutReminder.lua ShoutReminder.toc):
19:06.40CIA-22ShoutReminder:
19:06.40CIA-22- every watched spell can now be configured through the fubar menu.
19:06.41jmemaybe, i don't remember :/
19:07.23charonlike it's funny
19:07.49jmecharon: sorry :(
19:08.00Amadeowhy is my damn chat box moving by itself?
19:08.05NimbleRabitHmm I'm having trouble tryign to copy over the savedvariables stuff
19:09.27jmeAmadeo: unlock it
19:09.48AmadeoI have to leave it unlocked?
19:09.56Mudkipshuh?
19:10.07jmeAmadeo: it stopped jumping around for me when i unlocked it ;)
19:10.10MudkipsWoudn't Amadeo want to "lock" the chatbox instead?
19:10.14Amadeothat's really strange
19:10.21Mudkipshaha what?
19:10.22AmadeoI have no idea what addon is causing it
19:10.26MudkipsI've never had that happen to me
19:10.32jmeAmadeo: it did that for me without any addons installed
19:10.54Amadeogreat :/
19:10.54jmeAmadeo: the default castbar would sometimes bounce up and down too
19:11.12Mudkipskeylogger imo
19:11.17jmenah
19:11.20Mudkipshaha j/k
19:11.29jmei've never been hacked in my life :D
19:11.40jmeooh lightning
19:11.44AmadeoI've had some stuff on my PC before, but I take care of it fast enough
19:12.03NimbleRabitYeah I must be missing something
19:12.17NimbleRabitcopied all the savedvariable stuff from one account to the other but it didn't change anything
19:12.25n4LRwhats the addon that shows your groups dps?
19:14.08CIA-2203antiarc * r44823 10WhisperBid/ (. WhisperBid.lua WhisperBid.toc libs/): WhisperBid: Initial commit. A very simple addon to facilitate loot auctions with anonymity/semi-anonymity features. Drycode at the moment.
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19:15.01Aenslaedoh god, something is spamming debug text at me in game
19:15.06jmehttp://www.jinx.com/world_of_warcraft/men/barrens_chat.html
19:15.51NimbleRabitman I don't want to set up my UI again =/
19:17.01Aenslaedthis is awful.  Something I updated just now, is showing all the events in my chat log
19:17.24CIA-2203mitchell * r44824 10RangeDisplay/ (12 files):
19:17.24CIA-22RangeDisplay:
19:17.24CIA-22<PROTECTED>
19:17.24CIA-22<PROTECTED>
19:17.24CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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19:17.31charonah thankfully somebody else has the same problems
19:17.37charonNOW MAKE FUN OF US _ALL_
19:17.38charonthanks.
19:18.44Saint-Ni want the girl in the pic if you click the womens tees tab from that jinx link
19:18.51Saint-Nbut somehow i dont believe she plays wow
19:19.06jmeyou'd be surprised
19:19.30Saint-Nlies
19:19.36Saint-Nhot chicks dont play video games
19:19.41Saint-Nthey offer nude massages ;P
19:20.38NeoTronso tip for hydross - if you use a searing totem on transitions (on the "right" side) you can possibly gain a second or two or prevent aggro fro another party.
19:20.52NeoTronsomething we didn't think about until we used the same strat on leotheras
19:21.20Aenslaedwell, it is a complete aggro dump
19:21.32Aenslaedso anything can pull aggro for the briefest of seconds.
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19:22.36ZoidXJust get everyone to move to the side your are transitioning to, especially healers.
19:22.44NeoTronrigh
19:22.57NeoTroneveryone moving can be bad
19:23.04NeoTronbut.. it's jsut a smallt rick that can help
19:23.18NeoTronit's not as useful as on leo though since the totem will be within melee range probably
19:23.21*** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-138-204-230.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
19:23.36NeoTronbtw, this is why I like WWS so much - a hunter pulled on a transition and we couodn't figure out why. WWS clearly showed it
19:23.46NeoTron"Wettwilly gains 2408 Mana from Restore Mana"
19:23.58jmearcane torrent?
19:23.59Antiarc|WorkNeoTron: The one thing that stands out to me on your WWS is that everyone has really low DPS contact time
19:24.00ZoidXWe learned that trick back on Sulphron.  Put the totem inside the model of his four adds and they would cast SW:P on the totem repeatedly.
19:24.12HjalteHow do i stop this or these addons from posting debug info in chatwindow 2?
19:24.21jmeNeoTron: arcane torrent?
19:24.29NeoTronmana potion
19:24.33jmeoh
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19:24.49NeoTronAntiarc|Work: it's not exactly the best night to look at stats overall. it was a rather crappy night
19:24.54NeoTronbad add control and such
19:24.55Antiarc|WorkHehe, fair enough
19:25.25AenslaedHjalte: its happening to alot of us, but nobody knows which addon is the culprit
19:25.42NeoTronpart of our issue with hydross I think is that we keep having to bring in (a few) new people
19:25.45NeoTronoften
19:25.51NeoTronthat tends to do things like using a mana pot in transitions
19:26.14ZoidXHopefully we'll get Illidan down tonight.
19:26.17jmei didn't know using a mana pot could pull aggro
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19:26.30jmeif that's what you're saying
19:26.51deltronI really want to down hydross
19:27.07Saint-Nanti
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19:27.11Saint-Nanti
19:27.16NimbleRabitI've never even tried hydross
19:27.16ChompersAntiarc: did you see my Omen request?
19:27.19Saint-Ngo make a clone of that site for me ;P
19:27.23NimbleRabitmy guild won't let me come =/
19:27.26Antiarc|WorkChompers: Which?
19:27.28Antiarc|WorkSaint-N: What?
19:27.32Saint-Nwws
19:27.33Saint-N;)
19:27.42NeoTronhttp://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=v3pvn2oprp3zs&s=3951-4443 is a bit better
19:27.56NimbleRabithe sounds fun though
19:27.58Saint-NNimbleRabit: is that because you're a hunter? or becuase you suck? heh
19:28.03NimbleRabitmutilate
19:28.06NimbleRabitimmune to poisons
19:28.06ChompersAntiarc: feature request for Omen, filtering based on user-defined playernames
19:28.15Chompersthat one ^^ :P
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19:28.35NimbleRabitSaint-N: Because I'm a mutilate rogue and stupid hydross is immune to poisons
19:28.42Saint-Noh
19:28.51NimbleRabitI go for the other SSC bosses though
19:29.04jmewhy not respec for hydross?
19:29.23NimbleRabitcuzz my guild does him fine without me and it costs money =/
19:29.24NimbleRabitI may though
19:29.26NimbleRabitI do want to see it
19:29.29jmeaw
19:29.37NeoTronI think lurker is my favorite fight
19:29.40NeoTronin SSC
19:29.41NimbleRabitsame here
19:29.45NimbleRabitlurker is super fun
19:29.48PeoiiNimbleRabit: pffft, I don't even wanna hear it.
19:29.48dylanm|Kev|: What's the link for your unreleased copy of MAU again?
19:29.49ChompersAntiarc: filtering only the possible tank classes still shows dps warriors/healer pallys and dps druids
19:29.54NimbleRabitPeoii: 0.o
19:30.13jmekarazhan is becoming easier and easier, i still haven't beaten NS, nightbane, or prince yet
19:30.23PeoiiNimbleRabit: I can't tell you how many times i've had to respec away from fire to be able to do reasonable damage as a mage on said fire_immune boss...:/
19:30.28jmewe pretty much have it on farm
19:30.30NimbleRabitahh
19:30.33NimbleRabityeah that stuff is lame peoii
19:30.38deltronlurker is easy if everybody does their job
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19:30.53Peoiiheck, I still do it every week for al'ar.
19:30.54Antiarc|WorkWell, I'll think about it :)
19:30.55NimbleRabitlurker is the easiest person in ssc/tk imo
19:30.57Peoiijust cause I hate that fight.
19:31.02NeoTronlurker is fun when you have new ppl and don't explain spout
19:31.24NeoTronPeoii: tried arcane spec for general raiding instead?
19:31.44charonckknight: your commit to aceconsole diffs something with: AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):CustomPrint(nil, nil, nil, ChatFrame3, nil, true, event, ...)
19:31.57charonis that the line that dumps all events to chatframe3? if so, how do i disable it?
19:31.59jmepeople spec deep arcane?
19:32.02PeoiiNeoTron: yea, I have...  I dunno, I just don't like the spell rotation, plus arcane suffers from the ultimate mage flaw.
19:32.15NeoTron... lack of shadow priest?
19:32.32PeoiiNeoTron: That being of course, if we move a nano-metre, our dps completely stops.  Atleast ignite minorly addresses that issue.
19:32.36NeoTronjme: deep arcane is actually some impressive DPS potential, especially with 2 piece tier 5
19:32.42NeoTronbut you use mana like nothing else
19:32.43jmeNeoTron: ahh
19:32.58Peoiiyea, it's really nice
19:33.16jmei'm thinking about speccing deep survival
19:33.17NeoTronthe mage we had that specced arcane used to be crap for dps
19:33.22PeoiiI may actually try it if for no other reason than free 10% +hit! omg
19:33.32deltronyou'd go oom so fast
19:33.34NeoTronnow he beat me in karazhan (until the "lock 4 life" bosses in there) and is competetive in 25-mans
19:33.40Peoiinah
19:33.41jmedeltron: who?
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19:33.46deltronarcane mages
19:33.49jmeoh
19:33.54NeoTronyou really should be fed by a shadow priest
19:34.00NeoTronif you have arcan e mages
19:34.04deltronheh
19:34.05NeoTronalso though VR immune to arcane?
19:34.19Peoiideltron: If you're chain-casting arcane blast, NEVER letting the debuff wear off, arcane blast only caps out at like +220 your fireball, that's not horrible honestly, especially if you've got a shadow priest.
19:34.44PeoiiHell, most fights I don't even go thru half my mana pool with a shadow priest in my group.  and I only sport about an 11k base, with no meditation talent.
19:34.58jmei also found out that you can feign death out of red riding hood
19:35.03ZoidXheh we used to run most 25 mans with six healers, healers got the shadow priests.
19:35.07NimbleRabitomg finally I got the settings to copy over
19:35.07NimbleRabitwoo
19:35.32NeoTronjme: and vanish
19:35.37PeoiiZoidX: lol, we only give our healers a spriest on really long fights.  most of them have crazy mana regen as is.
19:35.52NeoTronZoidX: we did until we lost one or two of the best healers
19:35.54jmeNeoTron: can you bubble out of it?
19:35.58deltronI'm a fairly standard spec on my mage
19:35.59charonyea it is
19:36.06NeoTronyou can but it doesn't stop him from hunting you
19:36.11jmeah
19:36.12NeoTronjust stops you from being instagibbed if he hits you
19:36.16charonckknight: you didn't by any chance think people might use ChatFrame3 for purposes other than what you intended?
19:36.25Tornhoofanyone remember after which event the tooltips should be fully populated and loaded?
19:36.36charonAenslaed: dig up every copy of AceConsole-2.0 in your addons
19:36.43charonin the worst case, that might mean in every FooAddon/libs/
19:36.48charonedit the lua
19:36.52Tornhoofspellbook tooltips
19:36.56deltronI'm a resto shaman, I pretty much need a shadow priest in my group heh
19:37.02Antiarc|WorkNo, just edit the lua in one and increment the revision number.
19:37.08charonor whatever
19:37.16Aenslaedcharon: k
19:37.27charonremove the far bottom part that creates a local frame, and binds the OnEvent such that it will dump stuff to ChatFrame3
19:37.33ZoidXdeltron:  Just chain chug mana pots
19:37.41deltronZoidX: I usually do
19:37.44charonlocal f = CreateFrame("Frame"); f:RegisterAllEvents(); f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(f, event, ...)
19:37.45charonetc
19:37.49charonthat's the culprit
19:37.57charonnow somebody PLEASE fix that in svn... for the greater good
19:37.59charonbrb curator
19:38.12deltronI go through about 10 stacks of mana pots per week or so
19:38.35ZoidXIllidari council was the first time I had to chain chug mana pots while getting mana from a shadow priest (I'm a holy paladin).  That fight lasts so long
19:38.40Peoiideltron: wha????
19:38.42Saint-Nwow
19:38.57Saint-Ngot this trial wow cd in the mail a little bit ago and the movie propmo for tbc is pretty damn awesome
19:38.57Aenslaeddeltron: heh. It realy sucks for healers.  I had to respec last night for najentus cause we were down a healer
19:39.04Peoiideltron: I go thru... a stack of mana pots.... every.... 2 weeks or so? :/
19:39.11Aenslaedused up 2 stacks of mana pots on a couple attempts.
19:39.29deltronwe're learning a lot of new stuff atm, so I go through a ton of consumables
19:39.34NeoTronone thing I love as a warlock :P
19:39.37kergothhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32665 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27892 for my combat rogue?
19:39.54AenslaedPeoii: you should always pot if you think you might need to, not if you need to
19:40.17Saint-Ni pot based on my shadowfiend cooldown ;)
19:40.30ClovenhoofCan anyone give me any pointers as to how i can get the revision number in the lua file of my addon?
19:40.32PeoiiAenslaed: I know, that's why I never do... cause I never have had to...
19:40.39Saint-Npot wait to 1 min shadowfiend wait to 2mins pot
19:40.46PeoiiAenslaed: With a shadow priest and shaman in my group, I never, ever, run out of mana.
19:41.22Aenslaedwell, either you guys run with alot of healers 8+, or this is easy farm content
19:41.27PeoiiPlus, mages have their gems every single pull ;)
19:41.32deltronman
19:41.43Peoiimeh, it's Kael?
19:41.44deltronI can't decide if I want to give my rogue the crystalweave cloak I got
19:41.51Aenslaedoh, kael isn't mana intensive
19:41.56Peoiihehe ;)
19:41.56Aenslaedso many mana breaks that fight
19:42.06Peoiiwell, everything up to him.
19:42.10Peoiiso yea, it's not bad
19:42.32kergothi'm torn, how much is the +haste worth?
19:42.34kergothhmm
19:42.36PeoiiAnd like I said, I have my mana gems that I want to use every 2 minutes anyway.
19:42.41Antiarc|Workhttp://www.afrotechmods.com/submitted/gCube/DCP_0806.jpg <-- leet case mod
19:42.48Aenslaedphase 1 requires like 2 healers.  phase 2 is a little bit of healing burst on the tanks.  phase 3 starts rough but clears up very quickly. phase 4 is spamming on the tank. phase 5 is a joke.
19:42.50deltronkergoth: close to 3% I think
19:43.11ZoidXphase 5 is "look at me I'm flying!"
19:43.45Aenslaedand ugh. two weeks now in a row, supremus has been bugged for us
19:43.58ZoidXhow so?
19:44.03deltronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32665 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28371 for my rogue heh
19:44.17deltronI got 12 agi on the netherfury cape
19:44.25Aenslaedhe's not hitting the person with the highest HP next to the tank or second highest on threat. And he's hateful striking 2-3 times a second every 3-4 seconds
19:44.36Aenslaedrandomly targets someone in range and gives them a triple chop
19:44.45ZoidXwhat the hell
19:44.54Antiarc|WorkThe Netherfury is really pretty bad for a rogue
19:44.56ZoidXwe killed him last night, never saw that
19:44.57NimbleRabitare keybindings local
19:44.59Antiarc|WorkThe crystalweave is interesting though.
19:45.09AenslaedZoidX: i know. Nobody else on our server has seen that behaviour
19:45.16AenslaedReally weird shit
19:45.16Antiarc|WorkI recommend http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27892 if you can get it though, deltron
19:46.02deltronhmm that's a nice cape
19:46.19deltronI have the crystalweave on my banker toon
19:46.19Antiarc|WorkOn the other hand, flat haste is a very rare stat
19:46.30deltronyeah
19:46.43Peoiiugh, this whole "every event to chatwindow2" thing is kinda obnxious
19:46.45deltronconsidering the majority of my damage comes from white damage, it might be a good upgrade
19:46.50Antiarc|WorkYou can consider it a flat 2.5% increase to your white DPS, likely.
19:47.06deltrondid anyone notice any strange issues with omen and gruul lately?
19:47.13Antiarc|WorkLike what?
19:47.18NimbleRabitare keybindings saved locally or if I change them on 1 computer will they be like that on any
19:47.19AenslaedAntiarc|Work: too bad the only class that benefits from 2.5% white damage increase, are combat rogues
19:47.20HjaltePeoii, yeah... I hope someone fixes it soon :)
19:47.23deltronmy guildmate was saying threat was dropping completely after shatters
19:47.37charonpeoii: read what i wrote half a page up... i don't have svn access unfortunately... everyone bother ckknight so he fixes it
19:47.47deltronAenslaed: enhancement shaman would also
19:47.51Aenslaedtrue
19:47.57Antiarc|Workdeltron: Shouldn't be happening unless someone is doing a manual clear
19:48.13Aenslaedbut enhancement shamans are a joke, even in pve. Rather take a resto shaman in the rogue melee group over one
19:48.17deltronAntiarc|Work: I wasn't there, so I couldn't verify what was going on, it was strange
19:48.18Antiarc|WorkAenslaed: Yes, but I'm a combat rogue, so pfah :P
19:48.32Antiarc|WorkI love enhance shammies.
19:48.41Antiarc|WorkWindfury + Unleashed Rage makes me a very happy rogue
19:48.42deltronAenslaed: enhancement shaman are extremely gear dependent
19:48.42Aenslaedterrible allocation of a raid spot
19:48.42Chompersi love their totems
19:48.54Aenslaeddeltron: they have no aggro dump.
19:48.58deltronenh shaman are so awesome
19:48.59cncfanaticsAenslaed> they boost ur rogues so much its worth it
19:48.59Aenslaedthey are worse than dps warriors
19:49.02deltrondie + ankh!
19:49.07deltronthat's how we drop aggro :)
19:49.12Chompersour rogue with two spiteblades loves them
19:49.13cncfanaticsAenslaed, check what they do to ur dps warrior & rogue dps
19:49.35Antiarc|WorkOur enhance shaman is usually near the top of the charts
19:49.35deltronyou gotta make sure your enh shaman are dropping the appropriate totems for the group
19:49.39Aenslaeda resto shaman can drop an untalented windfury totem
19:49.40Antiarc|WorkAnd our DPS is no slouch
19:49.44deltronnot the same totems for each group
19:49.45NeoTrona resto shaman can somewhat make a group happy with WF, but an enhancement shaman is quite significantly better
19:49.48Aenslaedand the saved spot could be an extra rogue or hunter
19:49.51Antiarc|WorkUnleashed Rage is so very sexy though.
19:49.52Antiarc|WorkSo sexy.
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19:50.14ChompersAntiarc: we had a enh.shammy+bm hunter+feral druid in a group once
19:50.14PeoiiHunters do dps? Where was this news on WoW.com???
19:50.15Chompersand me
19:50.19deltronresto shaman in melee group is retarded for the most part, unless it's an aoe heavy fight where they can do a trinketed healing stream
19:50.30AenslaedPeoii: BM hunters are #1 dps on most single target fights these days
19:50.30Antiarc|WorkBM hunters with a bugged scorpid do plenty-o-DPS
19:50.36deltronbugged scorpid?
19:50.39Antiarc|WorkYes
19:50.41deltronelaborate
19:50.46Aenslaedscorpid poison
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19:50.48Aenslaedis bugged
19:50.54MOJO-JOJOHello
19:50.57Antiarc|WorkScorpid poison scales crazily with AP
19:50.59deltronall scorpid poison?
19:51.02Antiarc|WorkAnd since it stacks, the hunter keeps the stack rolling
19:51.09Antiarc|WorkSo, he pops all his AP trinkets, sends the scorpid in
19:51.16Antiarc|WorkAnd the stack stays up buffed by that AP for the while fight
19:51.17deltronhahahah
19:51.29MOJO-JOJOI just updated my addons and my guild chat window goes totally crazy flooding unit_mana/rage/health/spellcast messages
19:51.29deltronthat would be awesome with a (proper) enh shaman
19:51.30Antiarc|WorkOur BM hunter's scorpid ticks for like 900
19:51.41MOJO-JOJOi tried disabling various addons i just cant get rid of it
19:51.55Aenslaedso instead of an enhancement shaman, I'd rather stick a resto shaman in there, replace the dps spot the enhancement shaman took up and add a BM hunter
19:51.55ZoidXHeh, who submitted the code that is debugging out events?
19:51.57deltronMOJO-JOJO: you're not the only one who has said that today
19:52.13Antiarc|WorkA resto shaman doesn't add a lot to a DPS group
19:52.15NeoTronAntiarc|Work: so scorpid mania still working?
19:52.22MOJO-JOJOdeltron, what addon is causing it?
19:52.24Antiarc|WorkYes, NeoTron
19:52.25AenslaedAntiarc: WF, SoE, good enough.
19:52.27deltronMOJO-JOJO: not sure
19:52.30Antiarc|Workhttp://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=odyke6o5czqs1&s=2377-3074&a=22 <-- our hunter on Mag last week
19:52.40Antiarc|WorkScorpid Poison was 27% of his total damage output.
19:52.46Jagobahall it takes is a resisted or missed scorpid poison application to reset the stack though, so that kinda sucks
19:52.58Antiarc|Work268 ticks for an average of 623
19:53.07Silviu-I think is that change to AceConsole
19:53.09Silviu-not sure
19:53.12MOJO-JOJOill disable more addons then deltron
19:53.41charondoes anyone notice what i'm saying? :(
19:53.43NeoTronseems someone with commit access could fix the aceconsole debug stuff
19:53.53NeoTronthat charon has pointed out multiple times..
19:53.59charonyay
19:54.00charon:D
19:54.29Peoiicharon has been talking? oh shit... so he has... my bad yo.
19:54.37NeoTronAntiarc|Work: I wonder if it's fixed in 2.2
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19:55.02Josh_Borkeit's beta software, revert and use stable versions only
19:55.09KemayoHuh. S orry about that.
19:55.09Antiarc|WorkCat on keyboard.
19:55.21deltronlol
19:55.29KemayoActually, not.  Pressing page-down too many times did something weird.
19:56.14NeoTronAntiarc|Work: man you have a dps warrior on top? heh. wish we had such good warriors
19:56.31MOJO-JOJO<- warrior here, i have to fight really hard to get on top
19:56.42sbKemayo: what? :p
19:56.44Aenslaedthe only dps warriors we have, are either bottom of the pack, or dead by 50%
19:56.45sbhighlight :/
19:56.55Antiarc|WorkNeoTron: Our warrior is a tiny god.
19:57.00Antiarc|WorkHe's absolutely insane.
19:57.08MOJO-JOJOwhats he geared like?
19:57.48AenslaedI dont know if he's actually using heroic strike, but  its either threat cap, or jerking off in a corner
19:57.48Kemayosb: Oh, sorry.  "/sb" is the irssi shortcut slash-command for /scrollback.  What I was trying to do was "/sb end", which would have taken be to the bottom of the scrollback log.
19:58.11MOJO-JOJOWell, warrior damage if geared well depends totally on the tanks threat output
19:58.29Antiarc|Workhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarion+Circle&n=Cinara <-- DPS warrior (though he's in arena gear there)
19:58.41*** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
19:59.46AmadeoWhat was that site someone pasted earlier, that had guild progression and such?
19:59.56durcynwowjutsu?
19:59.59Antiarc|Workwowjutsu.com
20:00.12Amadeothat's it :)
20:00.14Amadeodanke
20:00.40MOJO-JOJOAntiarc|Work, thats some nice pvp gear :)
20:00.45*** join/#wowace Ani| (n=Ani@86.56.51.7)
20:00.47Amadeoof course, DnT is first
20:01.11MOJO-JOJOye its US only :p
20:01.21PeoiiAntiarc|Work: Are you on Cenarion Circle?
20:01.48jmei am almost hated with cenarion circle
20:01.57jmei think they don't like me killing their emmissary in org
20:02.03MOJO-JOJO:P
20:02.08Antiarc|WorkPeoii: Yes
20:02.08Amadeothere any sites that do the same thing but for PvP, not based on specific battlegroup?
20:02.14nevcairielckknight: can i request hyjal and black temple instance maps plus boss locations and loot in carto ? =P
20:02.30PeoiiAntiarc|Work: *sigh* The horde on your server are awwwwwfffulllll at pvp :/
20:02.36jmei have to kill him at least twice every time i'm there ;)
20:02.52CIA-2203antiarc * r44825 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: Ace2: Comment out the debug crap at the end of the file.
20:03.14MOJO-JOJOyay
20:03.15Antiarc|WorkPeoii: Eh, some of 'em :)
20:03.35charonthank god... er, antiarc... er, whoever.
20:03.49pastamancergonna go update the zips
20:03.49PeoiiAntiarc|Work: hehe, every time we come up against them, it's like "oh come on guys... what premade gets 5 capped in AB?"
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20:05.14NM|XinhuanIf i created a nameless button with CreateFrame() and inherited from "ItemButtonTemplate", how do i reference the $parentTexture in this button since it is nameless?
20:05.30MOJO-JOJOI still cannot find the addon causing the 'UNIT_Loadsofrandomcrap' messages in my chatwindow :<
20:05.59hoss777It's ace
20:06.21Josh_BorkeNM|Xinhuan: you can't
20:06.21hoss777I truned off everything and it only shows up when an ace mod is on
20:06.23Antiarc|WorkAceConsole
20:06.30Antiarc|WorkAnd I just committed a revert for it
20:06.34Antiarc|WorkSo it should show up in a bit
20:06.38MOJO-JOJOok
20:06.41hoss777sweet!
20:06.42MOJO-JOJOill wait patiently then :)
20:06.53NM|Xinhuanso the texture is nameless and unreferencable and the only way is to name the button?
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20:07.41MOJO-JOJOBtw since yesterday DrDamage is showing errors on battleshouts with the +AP trinket from solarian
20:08.25pastamancerok, files is updated
20:08.38hoss777updating
20:09.14MOJO-JOJOhoss777, what are you updating with?
20:10.18hoss777aceupdater
20:10.37MOJO-JOJOmine doesnt show any updates
20:10.39hoss777Problem solved, Thanks!
20:10.45hoss777hit F5
20:10.54GagorianMOJO-JOJO: well post the error on pastey or something
20:11.13MOJO-JOJOill try and find it
20:12.04JagobahAenslaed come back from AFK <_<
20:12.37Chompersckknight: are you about?
20:12.37hoss777@MOJO-JOJO, even if you press F5 in Aceupdater?
20:13.01MOJO-JOJOhoss777 that did it thanks :)
20:13.24hoss777MOJO-JOJO happy hunting!
20:13.25CIA-2203darravis * r44826 10SmartyCatManaBar/SmartyCatManaBar-zhCN.lua:
20:13.25CIA-22SmartyCatManaBar:
20:13.25CIA-22-Fixed zhCN locale
20:13.28NimbleRabitSo how do I make a macro do nature's swiftness then healing touch with one press, I've heard you can still do that
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20:13.56ClovenhoofCan anyone give me any pointers as to how i can get the revision number in the lua file of my addon so I can compare Revisions ingame?
20:15.04AmadeoWoW really runs strangely these days
20:15.20AmadeoI'm looking at my framerate, it's jumping all over the place, and I'm just standing still
20:16.16pastamancerClovenhoof: local version = tonumber(("$Revision: 174 $"):match("(%d+)")) or 1 -- don't forget to set the svn:keywords property on the file
20:16.47Clovenhoofthanks pastamancer, was something i couldt figure out by looking at other code :)
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20:18.07NeoTronNimbleRabit: I assuyme: /cast Nature's Swiftness \n /stopcasting \n /cast Healing Touch
20:18.46NeoTronof course fluffable to automatically heal your (friendly) target or the targets target etc
20:20.38charondoes files.wowace update on a scedule or post-commit?
20:20.55Hjalte0, 20 and 40 minutes
20:21.05charonah
20:21.43AmadeoHm, I just found a huge WoW bug
20:21.56Amadeoor at least, something totally new for me
20:21.58fireglowa shaman?
20:22.11AmadeoMy framerate drops severely just by moving my mouse around
20:22.34Amadeo20+ fps
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20:22.40deltronhealing wave
20:23.01fireglowDistracting Mousecorde Wave (Rank 12)
20:23.03deltronthere's some really nice shaman macro's on wowwiki
20:24.52NeoTronon hydross, do you usually use rogues or what not to stun the adds for the OT's to pick up?
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20:25.17NeoTronOne of our OT's is sure that is "required" but I suspect you only really require that if your tanks aren't too great
20:25.20durcynbanish one, downrank banish the other, shrug
20:25.31durcynother two are simple enough
20:26.20CIA-2203mist 07Mist * r44827 10Hourglass/Hourglass/Locale-deDE.lua:
20:26.20CIA-22Hourglass (branch):
20:26.20CIA-22<PROTECTED>
20:26.24NeoTronslow
20:26.27NeoTronwe AoE
20:26.28kergothdamnit, you cant choose the parrot scroll area for bigwigs anymore, yay skinlib conversion
20:26.35Josh_Borkekergoth: !
20:26.40ckknightChompers: somewhat - not really for a little while
20:26.42kergother sinklib
20:26.44kergothsilly fingers
20:26.45NeoTronunless you have crap aoe that is
20:26.56deltronwe don't always have the aoe for hydross :(
20:27.08NeoTron3-4 warlocks should be enough
20:27.08ckknightnevcairiel: I thought the maps were in...
20:27.21KyahxWhat happened to Aloft?
20:28.19kergothalso, the output for banzaialert is fucked up too, guess sinklib's scorllarea stuff is just borked atm
20:28.22Kyahxweird, now its showing up in the svn
20:28.29kergothwhere's vhaar when i need to complain, anyway?
20:28.31kergothsheesh
20:28.32kergoth:P
20:28.32Gagorian<Gagorian> ckknight: Is it possible to get parrot to display what my pets devour magic dispelled?
20:28.58GagorianIt's available through combat log, but would be pro to see it
20:29.07kergothi'd still like to see happiness gained by the pet in the incoming frame, +25 happiness, etc, as you feed them.. and i'd like to see pet incoming damage shown too
20:29.13CIA-2203oridan * r44828 10ShoutReminder/ (. ShoutReminder.toc embeds.xml):
20:29.13CIA-22ShoutReminder:
20:29.13CIA-22- fixed externals finally, now fully tested as a standalone addon.
20:30.28CIA-2203cryect * r44829 10Relog/ (LogWindow.lua Relog.lua parse.lua): Relog - Adds scrollbar to the log window (needs to update the positioning of the scroll knob when new events come in and on UI reload)
20:30.35yacoobone, two, three, four, UTF-8 test: zażółcam gęślą jaźń kółkiem?
20:30.39yacoob(pardon for that, anyone got anything readible? :)
20:30.53Cryectnot really
20:30.56Kaydeethreeyup. <3 xchat
20:31.00HjalteHmm. This is very strange. When i press A, S and D my blizzard bags open.. I use baggins normally.
20:31.03nevcairielckknight: black temple isnt even in the instance drop down =P
20:31.03kergothlots of accents and such.. i wouldnt call it "readable" :P
20:31.06Arrowmasterlooked like 'gesla jazn kokiem'
20:31.24Cryectyeah there is text but not readable words :-p
20:31.24yacooblet's hope it's proper utf8 at those clients that support that :D
20:31.36Arrowmasterwhat was it ment to be
20:31.40yacoobhm...
20:31.41Punkie`yacoob: I could read that
20:32.05Punkie`zazikcan geska jazn kolkiem (in the closest matching english letters :P)
20:32.13CIA-2203darravis * r44830 10SmartyCat/SmartyCat.toc:
20:32.13CIA-22SmartyCat:
20:32.13CIA-22-Updated TOC
20:32.22kergothmm i should try and get a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29348 for my rogue, nice proc wonder what the proc rate is
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20:32.43CIA-2203darravis * r44831 10SmartyCatManaBar/SmartyCatManaBar.toc:
20:32.43CIA-22SmartyCatManaBar:
20:32.43CIA-22-Updated TOC
20:32.45CIA-2203ckknight * r44832 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - remove my event debugger thing.
20:32.53yacoob'I make mind a little yellow with gesle'
20:33.00ckknightGagorian: get me the combat log message
20:33.04Josh_Borkebecause it's always such a great idea to use trunk for debugginG!
20:33.09yacoobthis is nonsense Polish sentence to use most of the Polish characters :)
20:33.15Arrowmasterkergoth: friend has that and i think he uses it for grinding
20:33.17ckknightJosh_Borke: it was an accident, I didn't mean to commit it
20:33.21yacoob'gęśle' is a string instrument
20:33.39jmehttp://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h215/warcrackgirl/thumb_dps.jpg
20:33.44jmelove it
20:33.45Arrowmasterkergoth: procs a lot i think
20:33.50kergothhmm, cool
20:33.50Punkie`yacoob: I use Opera Web Browser for IRC, if you wanted to know what UTF-9 clients there are :P
20:34.05Josh_Borkekergoth: !
20:34.14Josh_Borkeyou are not acknowledging me!
20:34.14yacoobopera for irc? now that's innovative :D
20:34.14Arrowmasteri use mirc and its utf8
20:34.22ckknightcncfanatics: seeing as I never used flexbar, I don't know
20:34.33deltroneww mirc
20:34.44jmei use irssi in Termainal.app over ssh in a screen session
20:34.47deltronI'm using irssi and it's utf-8 :P
20:34.49Punkie`yacoob: It has awesome smilies :P
20:34.51jmedeltron++
20:34.54yacoobAnyway, thank you for help in this little test. If it was a real UTF8, you'd hear annoying BLEEP afterwards.
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20:34.58yacoobBLEEEEEEP
20:34.58yacooblike this.
20:35.11deltronI don't have speakers
20:35.17jmei'm deaf
20:35.31jme(not really)
20:35.49deltronmy coworker is heh
20:35.50yacoobafter such a BLEEP? But of course 8)
20:35.56jmedeltron: sorry :(
20:36.05deltronhe's awesome
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20:36.14CIA-2203ckknight * r44833 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - fix issue with soul shards not showing up for locks.
20:36.49jmei should've rolled warlock
20:36.57jme... instead of hunter
20:37.05kergothckknight, i just gotta say, parrot's icons are dead sexy
20:37.05striperhmmm...
20:37.08kergothJosh_Borke, ?
20:37.12Josh_Borkekergoth: i hate you
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20:37.30striperstill can't figure out what addon is causing all those messages
20:37.49Antiarc|WorkAceConsole, and it's been fixed
20:37.50Keiasprat?
20:37.53Antiarc|WorkUpdate and it'll go away
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20:37.54deltronsupposedly a lot have that issue
20:37.55Keiasoh
20:38.02striperahh
20:38.16deltrondebug stuff? heh
20:38.31Josh_Borkekergoth: test LT so i can get it ready to release!
20:38.37striperwere these events displyed?
20:39.00CIA-2203duerma * r44834 10RPHelper2/ (26 files in 2 dirs):
20:39.00CIA-22RPHelper2:
20:39.00CIA-22- Fixed several bugs
20:39.00CIA-22- Added ability to blank all phrases and import phrases from other races/classes
20:39.00CIA-22--Removed mount naming functionality for non-English clients (sorry, guys. :( I'll put it back as soon as I can.)
20:39.01CIA-22--Added Low Mana event
20:39.30jmerole play low mana? how does that work?
20:39.32striperthx for the help!
20:39.56Antiarc|WorkAlas! Mine manas are but nearly depleted!
20:39.58Saint-N"noooo my magical abilities have grown weak!"
20:40.05Chompersnightbane time
20:40.11Chompersfingers crossed for my boots
20:40.16Saint-Nor the diablo spam of "i can't cast that"
20:40.18Antiarc|WorkForsooth, might I beggeth an Innervate?
20:40.19Saint-Nover and over ;P
20:40.20Amadeogood nightbane, Chompers
20:40.20deltron"pardon the inconvenience my cadre, but I seem to have ran low on energy, best of luck without me"
20:40.23deltronlol
20:41.01Saint-N"mine magical energies have grown week, i'll gladly pay you tuesday for a mana pot today."
20:41.24deltronlol
20:42.28kergothJosh_Borke, you mentioend something about tooltips.. not seeing any.. on current svn
20:44.28pastamancerwhat I really need is something that lets me RP as your average barrens/trade chat denizen
20:44.36Saint-Nthats easy
20:44.37jmedeltron: lol
20:44.55Saint-Nget your cat to type and make 2 macros for l2p and n00b and just randomly hit them
20:44.59deltrondid you guys see those ventrilo harassment flash vids?
20:45.09jmeyes
20:45.33deltron'omg this guy yells something when he lands'....
20:45.34jmei played balls of steel over TS
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20:47.21cncfanaticsckknight, ping
20:47.46cncfanatics[2007/07/25 22:46:29-109-x1242]: Parrot-r44241\CombatEvents.lua:939: attempt to index local 'info' (a boolean value)
20:47.52Josh_Borkekergoth: k, thanks
20:48.12NightHawkTheSane<3 Overheard in new york.. "Banker: Hermione better nude up for the next Harry Potter."
20:48.15Saint-Ncnc thats a feature of parrot ;P
20:48.20mikmagothboy lolo
20:48.23kergothJosh_Borke, also, it says Clicked! in chat when i click, it seems a bit overly excited about this :P
20:48.25Saint-Nit does that to test the bug output ;P
20:48.30Josh_Borkekergoth: lol
20:48.40Saint-Nnighthawk, hahahahaha
20:49.00Saint-Nshe better pose for penthouse the second shes 18 ;)
20:49.18NeoTronlolpix
20:49.33Josh_Borkekergoth: fixed the click thing
20:49.43Josh_Borkeonly happens when you click an item
20:50.35Saint-Nhrm i wonder if i should break my XP install and put vista business on it for shits and giggles
20:50.41Saint-Nseeing as how im dual booting anyways
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20:55.09CIA-2203tornhoof * r44835 10Yata/Core.lua:
20:55.09CIA-22Yata:
20:55.09CIA-22- Hopefully fixes that rare "Wrong totem duration" bug
20:55.42deltronnever noticed that Tornhoof
20:55.46Kaydeethreeif anyone's on the PvE PTR alliance side, send me (Kaydeethre) a tell. trying to get the /dev/null guild off the ground
20:55.53Tornhoofme neither up until now
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20:56.18deltrondid it just display the wrong totem that was dropped?
20:56.35Tornhoofno it apparently parsed the wrong totem duration from the tooltip
20:56.41deltronhmm
20:56.51Tornhoofi just farmed primal water and it had mana tide with 23s up
20:56.57Tornhoofthen with 120s
20:57.02Tornhoof(which is default anyway)
20:57.27Tornhoofi moved the totem tooltip scanning from OnEnabled to "Player_entered_World" which is a bit later
20:57.47Tornhoofapparently in some laggy cases OnEnabled does not have the spellbook populated properly
20:58.14Arrowmasteractually that happens most of the time
20:59.23Arrowmasteronenable is the same as PLAYER_LOGIN
20:59.23deltronomg...
20:59.25deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=443155801&sid=1
21:00.22Mudkipslol RP boards ._.
21:00.39buu"
21:00.40buu>> If you're a guy IRL, you need not apply. I'm not gay, so please, no. "
21:00.44buuSeems awfully close minded.
21:00.48buuWhat's the difference?
21:00.52Tornhoofhmm arrowmaster, there is no ace event for "done with everything, do your own stuff now"?
21:00.57deltron>> You are not to take this 'romance' seriously. This is ROLEPLAY, not real life! I'm not in to internet relationships with ANYONE. If you just want a fun roleplaying experience, then you're fine.
21:01.01deltronhe just wants to get his rocks off?
21:01.34CIA-2203darravis * r44836 10SmartyCatManaBar/SmartyCatManaBar.toc:
21:01.34CIA-22SmartyCatManaBar:
21:01.34CIA-22-Fixed problem with base local
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21:02.04ArrowmasterTornhoof: AceEvent_FullyInitialized although it may have issues if the addon is LoD
21:02.17deltronlol
21:02.20KRavENheya
21:02.22deltronthat is an awesome mod name
21:03.04ArrowmasterTornhoof: are you scanning tooltips from the spellbook?
21:03.09Tornhoofyeh
21:03.30Arrowmasterdoes talent information need to be accounted for?
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21:03.44Tornhoofyeh
21:03.47deltronI don't know if talent info is in tooltips is it?
21:03.57Tornhoofwell mana tide is a talent
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21:04.17Arrowmasteri mean stuff like mana cost adjustments and cooldown adjustments
21:04.28Tornhoofno only extra spells
21:05.05deltronthere's a couple durations that are different through talents
21:05.27Tornhoofah yes
21:05.31Tornhoofsome fire totems
21:05.40deltronyep
21:05.49Tornhoofhaven't skilled that stuff for ages ;)
21:06.03Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process
21:06.04deltronneither have I :P
21:06.58Arrowmasterso for first login you would need to scan after PLAYER_ALIVE but that doesnt get called on a reload, i would say AceEvent_FullyInitialized should be fine since it fires after youve joined chat channels
21:07.04deltroni really want to go elemental though
21:07.20KRavENjumped on to ask a qucik question before I start ripping out all my addons to see what the conflict is.
21:07.39KRavENDoes anyone know if can cancellation is working?  All I get is a hide menu under set categories
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21:08.23KRavENniagra seems hosed too
21:08.54CIA-2203cryect * r44837 10Relog/ (LogWindow.lua parse.lua): Relog - Now properly adjusts the scrollbar when the position is updated by a parsed event or on UI reload
21:09.00Tornhoofthanks arrowmaster, using AceEvent_FullyInitialized now
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21:11.39CIA-2203tornhoof * r44838 10Yata/Core.lua:
21:11.39CIA-22Yata:
21:11.39CIA-22- Using "AceEvent_FullyInitialized" now, thanks to Arrowmaster for pointing that out
21:12.39Josh_Borkebye all
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21:20.39CIA-2203boydon * r44839 10SmartQueue/Options.lua:
21:20.39CIA-22SmartQueue:
21:20.39CIA-22- Little fix for locales
21:21.36jmeFisker-: http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh
21:21.56Mudkipsit's a tarp
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21:22.11MudkipsOne does not easily waltz into a Rick Roll
21:22.20jmeMudkips: :X
21:22.25Chomperscatchphrases ahoy
21:22.40MudkipsI'm so sick of that guy
21:22.47Mudkipsmy friend has been obsessed with it
21:23.03jmeheh
21:24.00Mudkipsyesterday I clicked on her link to a rick roll page that wouldn't close because it had infinite pop up pages of the lyrics
21:24.02Mudkips~_~
21:24.02purl:/
21:24.13jmelol
21:27.49deltrondarn
21:28.03deltronthe armory webpage thing someone linked in here the other day requires php5 :(
21:28.56sbmh so?
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21:29.24dodgizzlaSupport PHP4 ceases in some months anyway
21:29.26fireglow!seen nymbia
21:29.26Diaonymbia!n=nymbia@71-218-154-164.hlrn.qwest.net was last seen 17 hr 6 min 33 s ago on #wowace
21:29.33deltronhmm
21:29.35dodgizzlaI don't understand why people hung on to PHP4 for so long
21:30.07deltronnot my choice! :P
21:30.20sbWTF
21:30.21dodgizzlaLame excuse :P You always have the choice :D
21:30.25sbsomething is wrong with relog Antiarc :o
21:30.32sb20mb!?
21:30.43deltronlol
21:31.00deltrona lot of my older apps required php4 I think
21:31.06sbmh
21:31.23MudkipsLOL http://www.exposingsatanism.org/harrypotter.htm
21:31.30dodgizzladeltron: PHP5 is kinda backward compatible :>
21:31.45deltronlast time I tried was a couple years ago I think :)
21:31.52durcynweb coders at my last job were using php3
21:32.01durcynin the year 2006, mind you
21:32.05deltronlaff
21:32.10dodgizzladurcyn: Yeah, you need to shoot them, better for all of mankind :P
21:32.11deltronmy bro codes in ada :P
21:32.16dodgizzlaUah
21:32.26dodgizzlaWe were required to learn Ada in university
21:32.29ckknightcncfanatics: update
21:32.29deltronbut he REALLY doesn't have a choice there
21:32.50dodgizzlaIt's ok, but I wouldn't do anything serious with it. The NASA does Ada-only AFAIK, though
21:32.55sbdodgizzla: stfu :o
21:33.03dodgizzlaThat does not stop rockets from exploding, mind you :>
21:33.04sbada *sigh*
21:33.06dodgizzlasb: What? :D
21:33.15deltrondodgizzla: he works on F15's :)
21:33.23NightHawkTheSanedodgizzla: I think early versions of php5 had some kinda serious issues, but these days, yeah, there's no particularly good reason to hang on to php4
21:33.31durcyndodgizzla: why do you think i left
21:33.42dodgizzlaNightHawkTheSane: Early versions of Windows had issues, too.. hmmm :>
21:33.43deltronyeah there was a lot of issues last time I seriously looked
21:33.51dodgizzladurcyn: No table soccer there? :D
21:33.59deltronmy box is running debian stable :P
21:34.01NightHawkTheSanedodgizzla: lol :D
21:34.19dodgizzladeltron: I always run unstable
21:34.40deltronI usually do, but not on this production box
21:34.40jmei used to run debian unstable
21:34.42NightHawkTheSanemy previous hosting company just would not upgrade to php5, so i eventually ditched them. *shrug*
21:34.45jmethen i ran ubuntu for a couple of years
21:34.51jmethen i got a mac, and haven't looked back
21:34.54deltronsince it houses a ton of stuff
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21:35.09durcyndodgizzla: that and php3, aye!
21:35.15deltronI don't see any reason to use a mac for a server :)
21:35.15dodgizzlaNightHawkTheSane: That's why I pay for a root-server and do stuff there on my own. Screw hosting companies. Most of them don't have a clue anyway
21:35.40jmedeltron: this is my day to day machine that i use for about 16 hours a day
21:35.50dodgizzladeltron: Some dudes at our university do that, and everytime I'm there it's "Our mac server crashed blabla"
21:35.50deltronahhh
21:36.02NightHawkTheSanedodgizzla: yeah, i've considered that. I'm really way to lazy to do all the set up work. *shrug*
21:36.05jmedeltron: i am upgrading my old pc slightly to use at home though, because of that
21:36.11jmei get tired of using the same machine all day long
21:36.12ckknightkergoth: yea, I thought the icon idea was ingenious, I mean, it seems so damn simple, but it's obvious why SCT/MSBT couldn't do it, i.e. lack of Babble-Spell, which has the icons
21:36.14deltronmy day to day box is windows xp & vista
21:36.23ckknightso it's like, I'm the only one with the power to do it
21:36.29ckknightso, bam
21:36.34dodgizzlaNightHawkTheSane: I did it once, took about a week to set up all kind of crap. Since then it's kinda smooth with some hickups every now and then :D
21:37.13NightHawkTheSaneplus i'm vaguely paranoid i'd mess up, or forget something, and end up doing something really stupid. :)
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21:37.17MecdemortEvery time I reload/relog, my addon recreates the default values along with the other saved values.  Anyone know what might cause this and how to fix it?
21:37.23NightHawkTheSaneserver administration is not my particular field of expertise :D
21:38.09deltrontime to head out
21:38.11deltronyaaay
21:38.15deltronheh
21:38.34dodgizzlaNightHawkTheSane: That is why I invested around 3 days for a backup system
21:38.37deltronI admin a few servers heh
21:38.40dodgizzlaSince then I sleep waaay better
21:39.12deltronhttp://forgeftp.novell.com/lfl/.html/virtualbox.html
21:39.50deltronmmm seamless
21:40.12yacoobspeaking of which
21:40.17yacoobgood utf font for putty?
21:40.21ArrowmasterMecdemort: pastey
21:40.26deltronI use default font
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21:40.46deltroncourier-new
21:41.08NightHawkTheSanecourier new is lame. regular courier is better,
21:41.22deltronI used to use console heh
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21:41.40jmei don't mind the default putty font
21:41.42ElkanoLucida Console?
21:41.50deltronno...sec
21:41.51Arrowmasteri wish it was easyer to tell the difference btween '1' and 'l' in courier new at small font sizes
21:42.04jmeTerminal.app uses Monaco 10 pt by default, i like it
21:42.14deltronhmm
21:42.16yacoobthe thing with windows is that you need to select 'script' which basically strips font down of some characters
21:42.21deltronit used to be named console
21:42.29yacooblike 'central european' - no kanjis, even if those are tehre
21:42.43deltronoh named terminal now
21:43.22yacoobラス・マンãƒãƒ£ã‚¹
21:43.24yacooberp.
21:43.26NightHawkTheSanejme: i kind of dislike monaco these days. Profont 9pt ftw.
21:43.28deltronwow this is hard on my eyes hehe
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21:44.12MecdemortArrowmaster: http://ace.pastey.net/71326
21:44.29deltronooh profont looks very nice
21:44.55jmenot on here, hmm
21:44.58jmeerr it isn't on here
21:45.22NightHawkTheSanegoogle it
21:45.29jmei am
21:45.36ArrowmasterMecdemort: its probably because your nil'ing it out, try setting it to something like false instead
21:45.44NightHawkTheSaneits one of the better programming/console fonts i've found
21:46.05NightHawkTheSaneAlthough i've found windows's shitty font rendering will maul it. ><
21:46.05MecdemortArrowmaster: ok
21:46.27ckknightConsolas is pretty nice
21:46.30NightHawkTheSaneat least at certain font sizes, thati s
21:47.22Arrowmasterdont you need clearfont enabled for consolas
21:47.30Saint-N[X]Use Cleartype Font
21:47.32deltronI'm usually using arial in SciTE
21:48.51deltronwow profont 10pt is HUEG
21:49.30deltronthis is an interesting font
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21:49.42yacoobprofont lacks Polish letters... :D
21:49.59deltronnot utf-8 though :P
21:50.05Saint-Nthats what you get for being polish ;)
21:50.14Dustwhisper|http://surl.se/ccyx what is the skin used for the bars in swsstats, on quartz, on the health/mana and even in the raidframes
21:50.25jmeheh
21:50.39jmei wish i knew, cause that is a nice UI
21:50.50jmeDustwhisper|: have you tried to contact the person that uploaded it?
21:51.09Dustwhisper|nope
21:51.14Dustwhisper|cause i found it randomly somewhere
21:53.17yacoobbah
21:53.17dodgizzlaDustwhisper|: Looks like Charcoal or Aluminium
21:53.28yacoobthis consolas font needs to have visual studio installed O_o
21:53.33yacoob(well, not the font. Installer)
21:55.03Arrowmasteri would so switch to Bitstream Vera Sans Mono font if the L's didnt didnt look stupid and the 1's didnt look like L's normally would
21:55.13MecdemortArrowmaster: in the wtf file example is set to false, but on reload it still repears
21:57.00Dustwhisper|http://tinyurl.com/ypzbw3
21:57.02Dustwhisper|is my WIP
21:57.07Dustwhisper|id love to have that barskin though
21:58.27Arrowmasterwow http://www.arcavia.com/Software/ProgFont/
21:58.41Dustwhisper|is there any addon that simplifies copying colours ingame?
21:58.55Dustwhisper|bitch to make two things have same color by eyemeasurement =D
21:58.56HealthSo. I need lua installed to use gladiator's dataminer?
21:58.59jmeDustwhisper|: nice
21:59.10ArrowmasterDustwhisper|: theres an enchancedcolourpicker on files.wowace.com
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22:03.33MecdemortArrowmaster: setting it to {} didnt work either, im at my whitsend
22:04.07ArrowmasterMecdemort: im not sure if you can completely get rid of it
22:04.33MecdemortArrowmaster: looks like i'll just do away with an example, and write some more in the readme
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22:08.02ArrowmasterMecdemort: here try this, change 'frames = { example = {...}, },' to 'frames = { ['*'] = {...}, example = { }, },'
22:09.05Arrowmasteri really have no clue if that will work better
22:09.25Mecdemortit might work, but the settings for example have to be in example or it wont reference correctly later on
22:09.37Mecdemorttho, i think i've found a fix for it
22:09.49Arrowmasterthey should get set in example that way
22:10.17Mecdemortok ill give that a try then
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22:12.18CIA-2203fenlis * r44840 10RangeDisplay/localization-koKR.lua:
22:12.18CIA-22RangeDisplay :
22:12.18CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:12.20Mecdemortlike http://ace.pastey.net/71328 ?
22:12.23AmadeoBleh, I have no idea what to do about WoW anymore
22:12.34Arrowmasterthat may need to be ['**'] instead of ['*'] im not sure
22:12.54Mecdemortill try both ways
22:13.38CIA-2203fenlis * r44841 10Proximo/localization-koKR.lua:
22:13.38CIA-22Proximo :
22:13.38CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:14.22|Kev|dylanm: http://www.kismith.co.uk/tmp/MacAceUpdater-0.4.dmg (intel only)
22:14.27|Kev|oh, he's not here
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22:14.39|Kev|yes, just my autocomplete's screwey :)
22:15.14AmadeoSomeone else in Windows check if their framerate takes a huge hit when they move their mouse around the screen
22:15.18Mecdemort"*" gave a nil index, but "**" looks promising
22:16.02CIA-2203fenlis * r44842 10AuldLangSyne/Fu/koKR.lua:
22:16.02CIA-22AuldLangSyne:
22:16.02CIA-22<PROTECTED>
22:16.51Shirikmine.. doesn't
22:17.02Shirikthat would be rather obvious
22:17.02Shirikmost people do use the mouse while playing
22:17.36ArrowmasterMecdemort: http://wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0#.C2.A0:RegisterDefaults.28.22dataType.22.2C_defaults.29_or_.28.22namespace.22.2C_.22dataType.22.2C_defaults.29
22:17.50AmadeoShirik: It's happening to me
22:17.51Amadeono idea why
22:17.51ArrowmasterMecdemort: for what exactly that ['**'] is doing
22:17.53Saint-Nif it does that yer drivers are screwed up amadeo
22:17.56Amadeoeven without addons
22:18.02ArrowmasterMecdemort: which may not actually be what you want
22:18.03Amadeowhich drivers? I reinstalled video
22:18.06Amadeono change
22:18.09Amadeomaybe DirectX..
22:18.13Saint-Nbasically everytime you move the mouse it's refreshing REALLY slow and redrawing the entire thing
22:18.16ShirikOne would assume that it's not WoW's fault
22:18.24Saint-Nnods dx is evil with video drivers
22:18.40Antiarc|WorkAmadeo: Check the hardware mouse setting on the video options
22:18.42AmadeoShirik: I dunno, been a lot of changes since I've quit :)
22:18.50AmadeoI tried that Anti, both hardware and software act the same
22:18.58Saint-Nive usually had to install dx then drivers then refresh dx
22:19.07ArrowmasterAmadeo: you running in windowed mode?
22:19.09Amadeonope
22:20.44|TheKarn|ck why am i no longer listed as an author for CrayonLib 2.0?
22:21.00Mudkipscheck multisampling?
22:21.11ckknight|TheKarn|: *shrug*
22:21.15|TheKarn|i'm still listed in the toc but not the lua :(
22:21.24AmadeoI have antialiasing and anisotropic disabled in driver options
22:21.28ckknightfeel free to add yourself
22:21.37|TheKarn|was going to steal my RGB/HSL calculations for another something else i'm doing (non-wow related)
22:22.54ckknightalright
22:22.55NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: Do you think it would be possible to put a "cooldown" of sorts onto the warning sound in omen?
22:23.07Antiarc|WorkNimbleRabit: Yeah, probably should. :)
22:23.49MecdemortArrowmaster: ya i dont think this is what i want, but thanks for the help...i think i've found a way to do it
22:24.04Amadeohm, not sure what else to do really, I doubt a DX update will change any files
22:24.12NimbleRabitAntiarc|Work: yeah because its like WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM
22:24.15NimbleRabitmakes me want to kill myself
22:24.26Dustwhisper|i have the wardrums
22:24.34Dustwhisper|so it sometimes sounds like im Ghengis Khan on the warpath
22:24.41Antiarc|WorkHahahah
22:24.43NimbleRabitlol
22:24.51NimbleRabityeah I switch my sounds around
22:24.55NimbleRabitI like Wham! the most though
22:25.02MecdemortArrowmaster: but, will this work on newly added subtables, ie will it auto populate them if i set ["**"]
22:25.15Arrowmasteryeah it would
22:25.43MecdemortArrowmaster: nice, that might not fix example, but it'll clean up alot of other code
22:25.54CIA-2203poull * r44843 10PallyPowerInfo/PallyPowerInfo.lua: PallyPowerInfo: Changed name of localization.
22:26.25ArrowmasterMecdemort: see that link about the differences between ['*'] and ['**']
22:26.35Mecdemortya i'm reading it now
22:28.35CIA-2203ckknight * r44844 10Parrot/ (Code/CombatEvents.lua Data/CombatEvents.lua):
22:28.35CIA-22Parrot_CombatEvents - change throttling system to have the events themselves
22:28.36CIA-22specify a suffix based on the amount of events merged together. This will cause
22:28.36CIA-22outgoing spells to show stuff like (2 hits, 1 crit) and the like.
22:28.58Dustwhisper|hmm i wonder ifyou can make macros that toggle addons
22:29.12Dustwhisper|wouldnt mind having a macro that toggled Recount and KTM
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22:31.20Dustwhisper|can a macro do /addon Param ?
22:31.48Dustwhisper|yes it can =D
22:31.50Dustwhisper|sweet
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22:35.15Mecdemortdang the "**" settings dont get propogated if you add a new table entry later?\
22:35.31Arrowmasterthey should
22:35.40Arrowmasterthats how the '*' works
22:36.27Mecdemorti guess i dont understand the difference then
22:36.57ArrowmasterFor example, { ['**'] = { alpha = true, bravo = true, charlie = true}, monkey = { bravo = false } } makes monkey behave like { alpha = true, bravo = false, charlie = true }
22:37.23ckknightwhereas with ['*'], it'd just behave like {bravo = false}
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22:37.29Dustwhisper|hmm you cant set buttonwidth in bartender3
22:37.31Dustwhisper|sadface
22:38.29Mecdemortim thinking that only works with elements inside the table when it's defined, because neither seem to propogate when you add a new value later
22:39.21Arrowmasterusing that example if you had { ['*'] = { alpha = true, bravo = true, charlie = true } } then tried to read the value of monkey inside that table it would be { alpha = true, bravo = true, charlie = true }
22:42.15|TheKarn|ckknight: heh i've just started to look at boo to find you wrote an IRC bot in it :P
22:42.22ckknightGoomba
22:42.24ckknight:-)
22:42.28|TheKarn|yup
22:42.28ckknightit was modular and everything
22:42.34ckknightstick a dll in and it's a module
22:42.37|TheKarn|it looks like a nice language
22:42.41ckknightit's reasonable
22:42.48ckknightbut it's not going anywhere
22:42.57ckknightit doesn't have generics yet that I know of
22:43.12ckknightand C# is always going to either be ahead or steal all the features for the next version
22:43.12|TheKarn|no generics?
22:43.23ckknightno, which is a big reason I gave up
22:43.30Gagorianckknight the message is: Targetname's Buffname is removed by petname's Devour Magic
22:43.32|TheKarn|as in no List<object> type thing?
22:43.36ckknightright.
22:43.39|TheKarn|gay.
22:43.45|TheKarn|back to c# for me then
22:43.45ckknightC# has it, though
22:43.46ckknightyea
22:43.47|TheKarn|yeah
22:43.52ckknightgenerics make things much faster
22:44.01|TheKarn|C# is nice imo - its a shame it seems so reliant on .NET
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22:44.12ckknightGagorian: does it show up in Parrot at all or what?
22:44.26ckknight|TheKarn|: .NET is nice
22:44.33|TheKarn|not when you want xnet
22:44.38|TheKarn|and mono is nice but not quite there yet
22:44.47|TheKarn|and will always be behind .net
22:46.02Gagorianckknight: Devour magic shows up if it's resisted
22:46.05Gagorianor so
22:46.08ckknighthrm
22:46.13Gagorianbut the thing it dispells doesn't
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22:46.21ckknightyea, but that's like saying that German books show up later than English books
22:46.24ckknightbecause it's translated
22:46.26ckknightit's inevitable
22:46.26GagorianIt's a two parted message, first the cast message then the thing it dispells
22:46.29|TheKarn|c# needs support for multiple returns :(
22:46.33ckknightbut Mono has its own technologies
22:47.06ckknight|TheKarn|: yea, that is one thing I find lacking, but it can be allayed by using tuple-like objects
22:47.18|TheKarn|hmm?
22:48.30ckknightsuch as anonymous structs (essentially tuples)
22:48.33ckknightor lists
22:48.45|TheKarn|ah yaeh
22:50.20kebinusanckknight: parrot needs an option to type in the scroll area offsets for those OCD people who like stuff to line up
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22:52.19ckknightcan't you just drag really carefully?
22:52.40AenslaedOCD!
22:53.01kebinusan1 pixel drags are rough
22:53.22kebinusanespecially just a single axis w/o messing up the other axis
22:53.54GagorianCan you really see a difference in the floating text of 1 pixel?
22:53.56Gagorian:p
22:54.38ckknightGagorian: the OCD people can
22:55.33kebinusanyeah I guess that is a bit obsessive considering I spent probably 7 minutes trying to get the offsets to match
22:55.46KeiasI notice 1 pixel differences :(
22:55.47CIA-2203ckknight * r44845 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add throttles for melee damage and heals.
22:55.47KeiasDrives me nuts
22:55.56KeiasSo I just use align and move it a single pixel
22:56.17GagorianI can understand if you can see 1 px with the configuration mode boxes
22:56.20Gagorianbut the text? lies.
22:57.31kebinusanwell 1px might be a bit much but they are difficult to align with symmetry
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23:02.29cncfanaticsnn everyone
23:02.46Chompersckknight: i've got a problem with Pitbull, when i use debuff filtering i don't see all my debuffs
23:03.01ckknightwell, that's the point
23:04.37Chompersoh, i thought it was supposed to show all the players debuffs
23:04.43Chompersnm then
23:05.49Gagoriankek
23:08.28Mecdemortholy crap i think i've finally finished it
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23:09.19AmadeoFound the problem :)
23:09.38AmadeoUSB hub is a POS :P
23:09.48ckknightMecdemort: ?
23:11.12Antiarc|WorkAmadeo: That's the first thing I'd have expected :P
23:11.27AmadeoI don't normally have it plugged in there, I forgot that I did it a while back to check something
23:11.28Amadeo:)
23:11.29CIA-2203ckknight * r44846 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - fix possible bug with throttling.
23:12.28AmadeoI wonder if it just sucks, or if it's out of power
23:13.14TecnoBratAntiarc|Work your server just crashed?
23:13.35Antiarc|WorkTecnoBrat: No, heh. Just rehosting it. Gimme a bit :)
23:13.43TecnoBratoh, haha
23:14.28Antiarc|WorkIf there are broken images stuck in the coral cache, it may ~12 hours for them to update
23:14.30Antiarc|WorkBut they should.
23:14.57Amadeocoral cache, it grows new brains
23:15.03NightHawkTheSaneHehe.. "Conductor: This is a downtown V train -- V as in 'vasectomy.'
23:16.26CIA-2203mecdemort * r44847 10Scaffold/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
23:16.26CIA-22Scaffold: initial commit
23:16.26CIA-22- add and modify textures to your UI
23:17.14Antiarc|WorkOoh
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23:18.22ckknightMecdemort: so an art addon?
23:18.32Mecdemortckknight: yar somethin like that
23:18.38ckknightI was gonna do one of those
23:18.46Mecdemortckknight: well, you fail ;p
23:18.54ckknightjust hope yours is good enough
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23:19.08ckknightif it isn't, I could make my own and yours would be merely a distant whisper
23:19.17Mecdemortckknight: its very rudimentary, so far it was just so i could learn how to do it
23:19.29ckknight:-P
23:20.55Fisker-polly want crackas
23:21.55CIA-2203mecdemort * r44848 10Scaffold/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
23:21.55CIA-22Scaffold:
23:21.55CIA-22- I can has externals?
23:22.24Fisker-NO
23:22.27Fisker-bad scaffold
23:23.04CIA-2203ckknight * r44849 10Parrot/Code/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - allow changing of the position with a range option
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23:23.12Mecdemortseriously is there no way to add externals without importing and commiting?
23:23.36Jagobahscaffold!
23:23.45ckknightMecdemort: what? that's not how you do it
23:23.50ckknightyou edit the svn:externals thing
23:24.18Mecdemortya, but to do that you have to have already imported, then you gotta commit those changes
23:24.19Antiarc|Worksvn propset svn:externals
23:24.34TecnoBratMecdemort, no, you dont
23:24.37Antiarc|WorkI just do a svn add, then svn propset svn:externals, then commit
23:24.55Mecdemorthmm im just goin by what http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners says
23:25.27Antiarc|WorkAre you using Tortoise?
23:25.36Mecdemortyar
23:26.03Antiarc|WorkOkay. My procedure for a new addon is:
23:26.18Antiarc|Work1) check out wowace/trunk, top folder only, so I don't get anything along with it.
23:26.30Antiarc|Work2) copy my new addon dir under that dir and svn add it
23:26.31TecnoBratuhhh you added the same externals to the textures dir
23:26.46Antiarc|Work3) go to the libs dir under my addon, edit properties, set the proper externals
23:26.48TecnoBratso you will end up with textures/libs/whatever also
23:26.49Antiarc|Work4) commit.
23:26.49Mecdemorthmm
23:27.01TecnoBrathttp://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Scaffold?order=name
23:27.04TecnoBratthat looks good
23:27.12TecnoBrathttp://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Scaffold/textures?order=name
23:27.15TecnoBratnot so good
23:28.35CIA-2203mecdemort * r44850 10Scaffold/textures/: Scaffold: - Too many externals, no moar!
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23:28.37Mecdemortthere
23:29.30Antiarc|WorkMecdemort: The commit note should have been INVISIBLE EXTERNALS
23:29.53liquiemhi, what's with SinkLib? do soar-1.0 and sinklib merge somedays?
23:30.17Antiarc|WorkI'm depricating Soar pending a review of SinkLib
23:30.25Antiarc|WorkSince it does what Soar was going to do when I finished it
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23:31.22liquiemah ok
23:32.06ckknightwho makes SinkLib?
23:32.13Antiarc|Workvhaar did
23:32.39ckknightso which is better?
23:33.06Antiarc|WorkLast week I'm all "We should have a SCT abstraction layer" and he said "I have a half-baked one, here look" and I saw it and it wasn't done the way I liked so I'm all "Moar Soar" and then he's all "SinkLib powerup!" and now SinkLib looks better.
23:33.30Antiarc|WorkThe main difference being that SinkLib does the Ace options table for valid publish areas that I was eventually planning on doing
23:33.39Antiarc|WorkBut SinkLib needs to allow for new addon registration too, IMO
23:33.53Antiarc|WorkSo that a new SCT addon author can register his addon with SinkLib without vhaar having to update it
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23:35.27CryectDamn, can't think of names
23:35.52CryectWhats thing called inbetween columns
23:36.01Cryectthat lets you resize columns
23:36.07Antiarc|WorkSizer?
23:36.11Antiarc|WorkGrip?
23:36.14ThianaAntiarc: Still waiting for a Soar:HasHandler() :-P
23:36.14liquiemhandle?
23:36.36NightHawkTheSaneI don't think it has a proper name that i'm aware of.
23:36.43sbhm oh Cryect
23:36.45Antiarc|WorkThiana: I'm gonna depricate Soar if SinkLib turns out to work okay :P
23:36.45AmadeoTitan Grip!
23:36.50CryectIt might not
23:36.50Antiarc|WorkHandle sounds right
23:36.59NightHawkTheSanehandle would be an appropriate term, probably
23:37.02sbCryect: whats wrong with relog? uses 20mb of memory and doesnt display anything :o
23:37.04Cryectnot the best at widget names
23:37.18Cryectsb: it has some issues with not getting rid of old data :-p
23:37.23sb:o
23:37.28Cryectsb: it displays fine for me though?
23:37.32Mecdemortdoes everything else with the scaffold commit look good? no other random properties?
23:37.38sbmh *wiping SV*
23:37.40CryectI've got a scrollable saved combatlog of past 10k messages
23:37.50charong'night guys... and next time do me the favour and read the diff before committing
23:38.22sbmhh 13mb, nice :p
23:38.45Cryectwait its using 13mb after deleting SV?
23:38.50Cryectyou logged out when you deleted it right?
23:38.53sbno wait
23:39.02Cryectoh did a reloadui? :-p
23:39.06sbSV is 13mb
23:39.16Cryectoh
23:39.17kergothAntiarc|Work, can you or vhaar fix the sinklib aceoptions table?  right now its impossible to set the parrot scrollarea.  it stays disabled, or something
23:39.20Cryectyeah the SV is large
23:39.25sbgonna wipe it now :o
23:39.25Cryectif you do a reloadUI
23:39.28Cryectprolly be around 6mb
23:39.34Cryectthe ingame memory that is
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23:40.30sbhm no
23:40.31sbits empty
23:40.47Antiarc|Workkergoth: I'd just wait for vhaar. I don't really own it ;)
23:40.49sbi get some debug messages, but its still empty
23:40.55kergothkk
23:41.13Cryectyou need events?
23:41.30Cryectdid you do something to create an event
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23:41.46CryectHeh I should say I've not tested it fully so could be potential issues
23:41.54sbCryect: you mean like heal myself? :p
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23:41.58Cryectyeah
23:41.59sbyes :p
23:42.04Cryectokay sounds like a bug
23:42.19sb01:40:19 Relog: Min: 0 Max: 0 Num: 1 Size: 6 RowNum: 13 T: -0.14285714285714
23:42.31Cryectheh I forgot to disable that
23:42.45Antiarc|WorkFail.
23:42.47Cryectscroll on the window
23:42.56Cryectwith mouse scrollbar
23:43.02Cryectit might be scrolled off
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23:43.37sbno effect
23:43.48CryectNo idea wait till its more developed I say :-p
23:43.56Cryectit might be using stuff it shouldn't
23:44.03Cryecthaven't tested it in a proper environment
23:44.10sbhehe okay ;o
23:44.33Antiarc|Workhttp://cbs13.com/watercooler/watercooler_story_206171558.html
23:44.35Antiarc|Work:O
23:44.49NoLiF3is it possible to move the editbox freely in prat2?
23:45.12sbCryect: some errors, interested? :p
23:45.24Cryectsb: sure I bet its something using recount stuff by accident
23:45.41sbRelog\LogWindow.lua:125: attempt to index global 'Recount' (a nil value)
23:45.50sbRelog\LogWindow.lua:45: attempt to index global 'Recount' (a nil value)
23:45.52sband (!) :p
23:45.52CryectHaha yeah
23:46.02CIA-2203zuno * r44851 10UnitActionBars/ (ActionButton.lua ButtonTemplates.xml):
23:46.02CIA-22UnitActionBars:
23:46.02CIA-22- Changed border texture from being defined in XML to being created in code to attempt to track down a crash on the Mac.
23:46.05sbC stack overflow:<in C code>: in function `SetVerticalScroll'
23:46.09sbi think thats bad? :p
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23:57.51aen`is there a way to show a cooldown if im using a macro for just the trinket slot (/use 13, /use 14)
23:58.20Kaydeethree#show 13 or #show 14, but 14's broken until 2.2
23:58.33Kaydeethreeyou may want to look in to a mod like TrinketMenu til then
23:59.34aen`can i use the number of the slot or do i need the name of the trinket?
23:59.38liquiemaen`, use #show <trinketname>
23:59.44NM|Xinhuanonce a frame is created, is there any way to destroy it?

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