IRC log for #wowace on 20070721

00:00.23Industrialso I edited it. http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cellular&diff=31718&oldid=30793
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00:03.48RogueShadowweird.
00:04.05RogueShadowHmm.. Cellular, I wonder if I would have a use for that personall.
00:04.14RogueShadowI am well liked, and people tend to whisper me when I log in.
00:04.17RogueShadowit gets confusing
00:05.02CIA-2203rabbit * r44384 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.lua: ErrorMonster: Update for Parrot API changes.
00:05.13Diaowhoa
00:05.14Diaoweird bug
00:05.21Diaowhen my party gets full i get a huge blank box
00:05.36TinyboomRogueShadow: it's great, only thing i miss is tabbed conversations and not getting spammed from gemlist addon^^ used WIM, but not lightweight enough:p
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00:07.49Diaowhat could cause this? http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6641/wowscrnshot072007170638iw7.jpg
00:07.54Diaoonly happens when i get a full 5 man party
00:08.28Diaoit vanishes after a couple minutes
00:10.22RogueShadowinteresting
00:12.04Kuja^yeah i get this one also, sometimes the box is even pink, it was when i was in a raid, but a guildmate told me he is having the same issue
00:12.38Diaoi get pink white grey black
00:12.39Diaoit's random
00:12.40Diaothe color
00:12.44Diaolight blue once i think
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00:13.49CIA-2203rabbit * r44385 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Use Roster-2.1 for group updates if available.
00:15.14rubik___hmm.. what is SpyGnome
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00:17.13rubik___oh.. grabs addon version info i see
00:17.41snurrehttp://youtube.com/watch?v=ZbbxA8a_M_s hilarious :p
00:18.28RogueShadowParrot:ShowMessage("Hello") defaults to a crit for me.  Maybe my version isn't quite up to date for the last few hours.
00:18.42Garoun|Loupanainfinite loop how I hate you
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00:20.19Garoun|Loupanashould I be using SharedMedia instead of Surfaces?
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00:21.49RogueShadowI don't know what Surfaces is, but SharedMedia seems to be the future.
00:22.09Garoun|LoupanaSurfaces was the texture library used by a lot of stuff
00:22.12nevcairielyeah we replaces Surfaces with SharedMedia in all major addons
00:22.17ckknightyes, Garoun|Loupana
00:22.24ckknightSurfaces is deprecated
00:22.41Garoun|Loupanathanks :) can I 'safely' remove surfaces and replace it with SML or should I wait until after raid :P
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00:24.58ckknightRogueShadow: actually that does default to a crit, perhaps I should change that.
00:24.59ckknightyea
00:25.02ckknightI will
00:25.08kergothckknight, loot isnt working at all here
00:25.20kergoththe events are enabled, didnt change that fromd efault, but not seeing anything
00:25.41CIA-2203ckknight * r44386 10Parrot/Display.lua: Parrot_Display - don't default to sticky style.
00:25.45ckknightkergoth: update Parser-3.0?
00:26.05kergothah, k
00:28.09KemayoThere we go, I got my gay free trial of CoH.
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00:28.54RogueShadow!
00:29.06RogueShadowAll you need is to get the character creator,
00:29.12RogueShadowthe rest is a week of fun
00:29.17RogueShadowThen you can decide if you want to play
00:29.20RogueShadow....
00:29.32RogueShadowOf course i'm assuming I know what that acronym is.
00:29.34kergothckknight, feature request: show pet incoming damage.  msbt didnt have it, but eavesdrop does show it
00:29.45KemayoRogueShadow: You certainly seem to be interpreting it correctly.
00:29.52RogueShadowI played the beta
00:29.53RogueShadowbut tha'ts it
00:30.08ckknightkergoth: alright, that shouldn't be hard to add
00:31.27Dustwhisperfirst try on leotheras
00:31.31Dustwhisperthat didn't seem overly easy =D
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00:32.59Chompersfinally get on the ptr and there's no gear vendor :<
00:33.20Kaydeethreewhy would there be? there's premades for the first time in a year
00:33.26Kaydeethreenot like they're testing gear/instances atm...
00:33.41RogueShadowmaybe character copy is having bugs
00:33.46Chompersi checked the website, no premades yet
00:33.54Kaydeethreeeu?
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00:34.02Chompersaye
00:34.24Kaydeethreethat'd be why. it's us-only atm. supposedly they'll be activating it for you eu folk
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00:36.12Diaopremades o_O
00:36.24Kaydeethreeya, I know. wasn't expecting it at all
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00:41.07CIA-2203ckknight * r44387 10Parrot/TriggerConditions.lua: Parrot_TriggerConditions - document in AutoDoc format.
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00:44.54kergothdangit, wtf is up with threat-1.0
00:45.05kergothassessment no longer shows any threat data, but i presume thats an aip chagne
00:45.17kergothso i try omen, and i pull aggro far before i hit the aggro gain bar
00:45.21kergoth(off my pet)
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00:47.59sylvanaarckknight is it possible with Parrot to use more than one fontstring (specifically 2) and move them together
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00:48.17Shirikmorning
00:49.10ckknightsylvanaar: mmm... how do you mean? messages are a single fontstring
00:49.15ckknighthey Shirik
00:51.01NeeblerI said what what
00:51.13Chompersin the butt
00:51.15Shirikcan I get a woot woot
00:51.21sylvanaarckknight i know, i was just curious if you had considered it in your design. im reminded of the old Electric Company show where the 2 faces would each say 1/2 a word and they would meet in the middle.
00:52.29ckknightD - ot - Dot
00:52.52Kaydeethreecook faster, damn you!
00:52.53sylvanaarzactly
00:53.01ckknightsylvanaar: but no, I'm not going to put that in, it's absurd :-P
00:53.08ckknightlol, Kaydeethree
00:53.18ShirikKaydeethree: Have you ever wondered how you would ever get along in life without a microwave?
00:53.23Shirikit's not that long ago, only maybe 50 years?
00:53.34Kaydeethreethere was a time when we didn't nuke our food?
00:53.39ShirikSomeone should invent a nanowave
00:53.40Kaydeethreedid typewriters exist then?
00:53.45nevcairielwe wouldnt have microwave food, so it wouldnt matter :P
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00:54.01FinI say woot woot
00:54.03Shirikthere exists food other than the microwavable kind?
00:54.11sylvanaarckknight well i didnt mean specifically that - an effect where you could dock 2 strings together and then back apart would just be cool
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00:55.03ckknightanimations could be configured to do something different based on whether the uid is even or odd
00:55.08ckknightI was planning on doing that
00:55.13sylvanaarspell name - damage amount eg.
00:55.29ckknightyou don't need it and it would overly complicate things.
00:59.38Industrialclassic :)
01:00.22kebinusananyone played with this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/wow-raid-sim
01:00.46sbhmhmm
01:01.07IndustrialDefender, ride like the wind. Fight proud my son. You're the defender god has sent.
01:01.31Industrialfather, FATHER I look up to youuuuu! I heed thy call!
01:01.35Industrialetc. :P
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01:09.56CIA-2203ckknight * r44388 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - document in AutoDoc format.
01:14.22Ziconindustrial: I hate you. *goes to put on Manowar*
01:15.05Shirikso you know how there's some people that just shouldn't be allowed to drive, period?
01:15.12ShirikMy grandfather is one of those people...
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01:15.41ShirikOne little trip, only about 10 miles away. He managed to go through a red light, cut off two oncoming cars while taking a left turn
01:15.48ShirikAnd go 25 on an interstate
01:15.54IndustrialZicon: \m/ -_- \m/
01:16.17Gngsk[Ammo], ping
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01:19.57Antiar1Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, got my epic mount :D
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01:21.38CIA-2203ckknight * r44389 10Parrot/TriggerConditions.lua: Parrot_TriggerConditions - add needed #NODOCs
01:21.41ckknightAntiarc: grats
01:21.48CIA-2203darravis * r44390 10SmartyCatManaBar/ (3 files):
01:21.48CIA-22SmartyCatManaBar:
01:21.48CIA-22- Added the option to change the font
01:21.59ckknightAntiarc: now AutoDoc is screwy.
01:22.01AntiarcThank you Mechanar chests. I'll always love you.
01:22.05Antiarcckknight: Example?
01:22.11ckknightwants to document local functions
01:22.29ckknightalso, for CombatEvents.lua, it doesn't even pick up my docs
01:22.35ckknightor the functions that I want
01:22.40CIA-2203benumbed * r44391 10Sphere/Tooltip/Tooltip.lua: Sphere: - This is your code on drugs
01:23.03Shirikwhat's #NODOCs
01:23.12ckknightShirik: documentation
01:23.18IndustrialLooking for someone with an enUS 60day game card. You can email it to me. You have a paypal account. Pm me.
01:24.07ckknightIndustrial: I use https://gamersloot.net/
01:24.57Shirikckknight: what do you mean?
01:25.16Benumbedbuy gamecard online, they email you the key to use
01:25.19Benumbedviola
01:25.39ShirikI mean what does he mean about "documentation" -_-
01:25.47Benumbeddoh sorry
01:25.53IndustrialIf that was an option I wouldnt have spammed :P
01:26.06Benumbedthey dont accept paypal?
01:26.10Benumbedwould be same thing no?
01:26.12ckknightShirik: if I add comments before my functions, it will show up on the wiki
01:26.18Shirikah
01:26.23AntiarcIf you have more local functions than you have namespaced functions, it'll do the locals
01:26.24Shirikkinda like javadoc?
01:26.25AntiarcLet's see...
01:26.42ckknightShirik: yea, only javadoc is unnecessarily screwy
01:26.45Shirikheh
01:26.52AntiarcUse "-- #AUTODOC_NAMESPACE Parrot" at the top of your file, ckknight
01:26.55Kaydeethreeif you're using doxygen-style auto-documentation, are you using /** to indicate the comments?
01:26.57AntiarcOr similar
01:27.13ckknightvery top?
01:27.30Shirikit took me a while to figure out /**
01:27.34ckknightKaydeethree: doxygen-style, I believe
01:27.36Shirikfor the longest time I thought my compiler was playing tricks on me
01:27.49ckknightAntiarc: very top?
01:27.57AntiarcJust above the first function
01:27.59Kaydeethreeso /** zomg, auto-documented code! */ function foobar() end
01:28.00Shirikwhen I ask my IDE to make a function it automatically puts /** */ there, but when I make a function manually I was doing /* */
01:28.03ckknightalright
01:28.11Shirikand it wouldn't document the functions I make
01:28.18Shirikit took me forever to figure out why ><
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01:28.55ShirikKaydeethree: Nah it just fills out all the @returns and @param fields (without description of course)
01:30.48CIA-2203ckknight * r44392 10Parrot/ (4 files): Parrot - add #AUTODOC_NAMESPACE where appropriate
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01:34.09ckknightKaydeethree: more like --[[ Arguments: etc. ]] function object:method() end
01:34.25Kaydeethreemeh, I'm used to c++/java syntax
01:35.01Kaydeethreeeven though I gave a lua-style function declaration... /ponder
01:35.02ckknight...and this is lua
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01:36.39Shiriknot @param? :(
01:36.47ShirikThe majority of RDX and VFL are documented that way
01:38.23ckknightI don't understand the @param syntax, why not just spell it out in a way that people reading the comments can know what it does properly, i.e. so that when reading the comments and the generated doc, they look more similar than not
01:39.19Shirikwho knows, I didn't invent it
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01:42.40kergothi dont see a problem with @param, other than the fact that it doesnt really handle varargs properly, and a single argument being able to be multiple things based on the way it was called, and .. :P
01:43.03ckknightAntiarc: hrm, the #AUTODOC_NAMESPACE didn't seem to do anything
01:43.05sbmhmm
01:43.09AntiarcHrm
01:43.21Antiarcwhich file?
01:43.22sbkebinusan: takes 1yr to compile? :/
01:43.38ckknightAntiarc: and I can't seem to run autodoc.rb with Ruby 1.8.2
01:43.44AntiarcWhat's the error?
01:43.56AntiarcI'm running 1.8.4 here, but 1.8.2 should be fine
01:44.13ckknightsyntax error
01:44.29AntiarcWell, what syntax error? :P
01:44.39ckknightautodoc.rb:54: syntax error
01:44.40ckknight<PROTECTED>
01:44.52ckknightand it points to the first *
01:45.07AntiarcHrm
01:45.16AntiarcGetting that from http://dev.wowace.com/autodoc ?
01:45.22ckknightyep
01:46.04AntiarcWorks fine here...just did a fresh checkout.
01:46.11AntiarcAh, I'm running 1.8.5
01:46.14AntiarcStill should work though.
01:47.01Antiarcruby autodoc.rb "c:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Parrot\Display.lua"
01:47.14Antiarc(as opposed to ./autodoc - it doesn't have a shebang, I think)
01:47.51Shirikeew ruby
01:48.08AntiarcRuby's awesome >:[
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01:53.24RogueShadowyes, yes it is.
01:53.31ShirikRubies are expensive... go lua!
01:53.58AntiarcHey, if a woman asks for a Ruby, you can deliver. If you asks for the moon, you're just screwed. ;)
01:54.12Shirikha
01:54.13Shirikbrb
01:54.29Industriallol
01:54.59RogueShadowI wonder what you would get if you combined  bash with irb
01:55.12RogueShadowruby shell scripts?
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01:59.21ckknightAntiarc: the issue was that I was using 1.8.2
01:59.24ckknightI upgraded to 1.8.6
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02:03.30Antiar1Is there a tutorial on how to do ace libraries?
02:03.41Antiar1My locals keep becoming non-accessable and it is making me very >:(
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02:05.30ckknightAntiarc: upvalues have to be refreshed on library upgrade
02:05.40ckknightthis Autodoc issue is bugging me, though
02:05.51ckknightshouldn't #AUTODOC_NAMESPACE work?
02:05.55AntiarcIt should.
02:06.13AntiarcNote that there's no space after #
02:06.35ckknightI know, it catches it, but @docs[targetNamespace] is nil
02:07.04AntiarcYour'e sure you have the right namespace?
02:07.10ckknightpositive.
02:07.22Antiarcwhich file is it?
02:07.23RogueShadowChecked 4 times? had 2 other people check it?
02:07.33ckknightugh
02:07.35ckknightbad Antiarc
02:07.38ckknightno banana
02:07.41Antiarc?
02:07.52ckknightmatch = line.match /function ((\w*?):)?(\w+?)\((.*?)\)/i
02:07.54RogueShadowHey, finish parrot before you do monkey
02:08.01ckknightwhat would match[1] be for function Alpha:Bravo()?
02:08.07ckknightnot Alpha, it's Alpha:
02:08.15Antiarc<PROTECTED>
02:08.17AntiarcOops.
02:08.22ckknightyou need match[2]
02:08.25AntiarcYeah
02:09.09AntiarcCommitted, will have to wait for Kaelten to deploy
02:09.36AntiarcIs there doc on the proper way to refresh upvalues?
02:09.39AntiarcBecause I apparently suck at it
02:10.06ckknightwell, the only time that it would be upgraded is when the upvalue is also a member of a namespace that is upgraded
02:10.16ckknightso, you should just be able to do upvalue = namespace.field
02:10.27AntiarcWell, I'm trying to just use a local table
02:10.32AntiarcBut it comes out empty.
02:10.42ckknightbecause it's upgraded somewhere, obviously
02:10.50AntiarcWell, I don't know how it could be
02:10.54AntiarcBecause there's only one copy of this library
02:10.59ckknightwhere are you talking about?
02:11.08AntiarcSoar, floating combat text proxy
02:11.23AntiarcI iz writting it
02:11.30ckknighton svn?
02:11.42AntiarcNot yet
02:11.45AntiarcI can put it up if you want
02:11.46ckknightthen pastey
02:13.14Antiarchttp://ace.pastey.net/71115
02:13.30AntiarcIn GetAddOnHandler(), customHandlers ends up being either nil or {}
02:13.37AntiarcDepending on the various manglings I've done in activate
02:14.37CIA-2203ckknight * r44393 10Parrot/Display.lua: Parrot_Display - fix docs
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02:16.54ckknightAntiarc: I have no damn idea, that shouldn't happen
02:17.12ckknightoh
02:17.14ckknightI know the issue
02:17.23ckknightit's merely your incompetency
02:17.27ckknight:-P
02:17.30ckknightjk
02:17.32AntiarcWell, obviously :P
02:17.36AntiarcI wish to be less so!
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02:17.45ckknightlook at where you declare it
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02:17.54ckknightwhat is soar.Parrot equal to at the time you declare it?
02:18.15AntiarcHrm. Right.
02:18.21AntiarcSo it's nil
02:18.22AntiarcRight.
02:18.24ckknightyea
02:19.03ckknightalso you mess up colon vs. dot syntax anyway in ShowSoarMessage
02:19.05RogueShadowI see, I see.
02:19.13AntiarcYeah, I drycoded the whole thing a half hour ago :P
02:19.33RogueShadowThere are now 3 major addon's.  It's now worth it to write something to make it irrelevent what one you have eh.
02:19.55ckknightor just support Parrot cause the others suck
02:19.56ckknight:-P
02:20.06ckknightlol
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02:21.12Antiarc3 addons + blizzard's built-in
02:22.17AntiarcYay, it works, at least for Parrot
02:24.14ckknightif Blizzard_CombatText isn't available, it should go to UIErrorsFrame
02:25.58AntiarcOoh, you're right.
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02:28.29CIA-2203ckknight * r44394 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua Display.lua ScrollAreas.lua): Parrot - change reverse direction into scroll downward, which makes a bit more sense.
02:29.14AntiarcIs there a clean way to write an error to the UIErrorFrame?
02:29.40kergothUIErrorFrame is just a messageframe.. :AddMessage() is your friend
02:29.43ckknightUIErrorsFrame:AddMessage("Pants")
02:29.44AntiarcAha!
02:29.46AntiarcGood to know!
02:30.04NM|Xinhuano_o
02:30.45NightHawkTheSaneOkay, random question! I've got a dell laptop, and I have no idea how to disable the trackpad's tap-to-left-click behavior. There's nothing to do it in the Mouse Control panel
02:31.33Shirikthat's not dell-specific
02:32.59NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i know, but i figured too much information was better than too little. Also, you didn't answer the question. :P
02:33.08Azurewrathstuff like that is normally configured with some special tool from the manufacturer of the laptop/touchpad
02:33.28ShirikI was unaware it's able to be disabled
02:34.24Azurewrathdepends on the manufacturer
02:34.31Diaohttp://www.synaptics.com/support/drive.cfm
02:34.51RogueShadowckknight: I know I shouldn't keep stating the obvious, but I like Parrot better than MSBT.   Not that there were doubts or anything, I just wanted to wait for it to be closer to done.
02:35.18ckknight:-)
02:36.55RogueShadowOh, I only recently started using it full-time, but Can it show when Rogue's sword spec kicks in.
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02:37.09ckknightum, what's it do?
02:37.18ckknightextra attack?
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02:37.50Layrajhaheya
02:37.53ckknighthey
02:37.54RogueShadowYeah
02:38.08RogueShadowIt says  "You gain 1 extra attack through sword specilization" and the next line is that hit.
02:38.35RogueShadowit's yellow if that changes things.
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02:40.31RogueShadowoh ok it does.
02:40.35ckknightyea, that's the Extra attack combat event, in notifications
02:40.38RogueShadowhard to notice
02:40.43RogueShadowIt doesn't happen a lot for me yet
02:40.50RogueShadowthat's why it's hard to notcie.
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02:42.17ckknighthappens to me all the time with reckoning
02:42.18Antiarcckknight: Is there a config mode for Parrot?
02:42.27ckknightAntiarc: for scroll areas
02:42.35ckknightNargiddley`: ping
02:42.51Nargiddley`ckknight: pong
02:43.27CIA-2203cryect * r44395 10Relog/ (Relog.lua parse.lua):
02:43.27CIA-22Relog - Adds code for subsecond precision with time()
02:43.27CIA-22-Adds code for adding log data
02:43.27CIA-22-Finishes basics of data structure setup
02:43.48CIA-2203ckknight * r44396 10Parrot/AnimationStyles.lua: Parrot_AnimationStyles - make rainbows suck much less. also add Alternating Rainbow style.
02:43.54Cryect<RogueShadow> It says  "You gain 1 extra attack through sword specilization" and the next line is that hit.
02:43.59Cryectthe next line isn't always the hit
02:44.02ckknightNargiddley`: there's an issue with Waterfall not passing in passValue with multiToggles.
02:44.03Cryectsometimes its out of order
02:44.06RogueShadowyeah.
02:44.16Cryectwhich just plain sucks
02:44.24Nargiddley`ckknight, i had a look at that and couldnt see why it wasnt doing it
02:44.44ckknightwell, it is doing it and it is an issue
02:44.46RogueShadowYeah,  You coulld never do    like.   121 - Sword Spec
02:45.01ckknightParrot's a good test case, try to make a trigger and set classes
02:45.19kebinusanwhats relog?
02:45.35RogueShadowSad, you can't get an accurate picture of how much damage that skill adds
02:46.01ckknightkebinusan: logout/login
02:46.30CryectRelog will be a combat log that can be filtered/searched and can use tags for how its displayedd
02:46.56ckknightCryect: imho, bad name, cause it means something else
02:46.58rubikany druid have any idea why furor would proc when shifting OUT of bear form?
02:47.10rubikand it gets me stuck in combat.. annoying as hell
02:47.16ckknightCryect: what're you using to parse with?
02:47.18Cryectckknight: heh, shrug I know I prefer it having double meaning
02:47.21twinighter, no idea
02:47.25twinighti've never seen that happen
02:47.27twinightand i'm a druid :/
02:47.28RogueShadow:(  I just tried to make a new scroll area for loot.  I did something.. and broke it.  prabably renaming it after entering config mode. I'll check again.
02:47.41ckknighthrm, that might break it...
02:47.43Cryectits parserlib 1.1 till you fix parse-3.0 for sws but it will be easy to swap
02:47.44ckknightlemme try
02:48.03ckknightCryect: oh yea, that commit was reverted, okay, lemme fix.
02:48.30Cryectits also parserlib 1.1 because I don't know parser-3.0 well enough without the documentation >_>
02:48.38RogueShadowDue to the nature of the error I can't copy the error text, but line 643 index nil field or whatever.
02:48.40Cryectheh damn kael
02:48.41NightHawkTheSaneDiao: Thanks for the link, I got some drivers that'll do what I want.:)
02:48.51ckknightCryect: *sigh*
02:48.55rubiktwinight: i think it has to do with me logging out in bear form.. i can reproduce it 100% of the time.. log out as bear, log in, shift out of bear, furor procs => stuck in combat
02:49.09Diaonp
02:49.44Cryectckknight: heh not your fault but yeah it sucks
02:50.08NM|Xinhuanwhats the difference between SCT and Parrot?
02:50.17Mikkrubik: zoning fixes it
02:50.30ckknightCryect: http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowace.com%2Fwiki%2FParser-3.0&fr=yfp-t-501&u=www.wowace.com/wiki/Parser-3.0&d=GFJOi-ljPGkv&icp=1&.intl=us
02:50.58ckknightMikk: did you have the html-to-wiki code?
02:51.10Mikkhttp://mikk.cjb.net/rewikify.awk
02:51.15Cryectah nice
02:51.31Mikkdidn't realize yahoo had a cache also
02:51.47RogueShadowckknight: Enter config mode for scroll area's.  rename one, and drag it.    Parrot is not happy.
02:51.51Cryectarchive.org's cache is kinda out of date for a lot of the stuff :(
02:51.52ckknightkoay
02:51.59ckknightokay*
02:52.02Cryector nonexistant
02:52.20Cryectwish I knew abouut yahoo's when I was looking for something the other day
02:52.30RogueShadowNM|Xinhuan: Besides Parrot is way better?
02:52.47NM|Xinhuani don't know :)
02:52.56RogueShadowNM|Xinhuan: It's far more configurable, and easier to do so.
02:53.07NM|Xinhuandoes it run faster?
02:53.39RogueShadowNM|Xinhuan: I wouldn't presume to make guesses, I'm not good at analyzing.  
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02:57.42Nargiddley`ckknight: it was just passing the key and the passValue in the wrong order, commiting fix now
02:57.53ckknightNargiddley`: yay
02:57.55ckknight<3
02:58.13ckknightNM|Xinhuan: there are some things it does to run faster/more efficiently
02:58.41ckknightdon't have statistics
02:59.10NM|Xinhuanwould be interesting if you can compile some kind of performance statistics ;p
02:59.20CIA-2203nargiddley * r44397 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Pass key and passValue to multitoggle functions in the correct order
02:59.24NM|Xinhuanalthough i suppose it would be hard to reproduce exact results
03:00.06ckknightNM|Xinhuan: Parrot has event merging and such to make it faster
03:00.13ckknightFPS-independent animations
03:00.25ckknightabsolute animations rather than iterative animations
03:09.44RogueShadowHmm.. To go with the developer's recommendations, or to do serious beyond all measure number crunching until you get definitive results.
03:10.25CIA-2203mist 07Mist * r44398 10Hourglass/Hourglass/: Hourglass (branch): Creating directory.
03:12.12MentalPowerDoes anyone here know how Kerberized FTP works?
03:13.01ckknighthttp://wowace.com/wiki/Parser-3.0
03:13.18ckknightRogueShadow: ?
03:13.54RogueShadowJust being weird.
03:14.04RogueShadowDid you read my little error report.
03:14.28RogueShadowckknight: Enter config mode for scroll area's.  rename one, and drag it.    Parrot is not happy.
03:14.44ckknightdude, let me deal with my shit
03:14.47ckknightI heard you twice already
03:14.55ckknightand I responded to you both times
03:17.32RogueShadowchiiil.  I thought you were talkin to the other guy.   .
03:17.34Cryectckknight: can you add the multiple create events to Parser-3.0 (LOOT_ITEM_CREATED_SELF_MULTIPLE, LOOT_ITEM_PUSHED_SELF_MULTIPLE, etc) also create seems to be missing events for nonself if I'm reading the code right (only see capture maps for LOOT_ITEM_CREATED_SELF and LOOT_ITEM_PUSHED_SELF)
03:17.45ckknightalready did
03:17.54ckknightyou need to update
03:17.57ckknightI did that earlier today
03:17.59CryectHaha
03:18.11Cryectthanks then for predicting me asking you that today then ;)
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03:21.46CIA-2203mist 07Mist * r44399 10Hourglass/Hourglass/ (Hourglass.toc core.lua embeds.xml):
03:21.46CIA-22Hourglass (branch):
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03:32.30ckknightCryect: it's cause I added loot stuff to Parrot
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03:39.29ckknightCryect: and here we go v----
03:39.32CIA-2203ckknight * r44400 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - make global string viewing lazy, only analyze once the first combat log message comes. This should fix issues with SW_FixLogStrings.
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03:42.46Omni_I'm looking for a bit of help scripting using ace.. anyone mind helping me right quick?
03:43.40CIA-2203antiarc * r44401 10Soar-1.0/ (. Soar-1.0/ Soar-1.0/Soar-1.0.lua Soar-1.0.toc): Soar-1.0: Initial commit. Soar is a simple abstraction layer for floating text messages, allowing you to publish to any installed floating text addon without the need to have specific knowledge of the addons themselves.
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03:45.35ckknightOmni_: okay
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03:46.30ckknightalright, off to my brother's
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03:57.57Cryectckknight: nice and thanks!
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04:03.26Finwicked
04:03.40Finthat was a really long, but fun and successful session :)
04:04.09Finwent from about +980 to about +1200 healing, woo
04:04.39Finfinally got the key for Karazhan as well
04:04.49Finand made some new friends!
04:06.25NightHawkTheSanezomg. Displacer beasts are P.I., and not in the OGC> ><
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04:13.55LywellynSo I'm thinking about using FuBar_HerbTrackerFu to make a Potion tracker that works exactly the same way...
04:14.29LywellynBut I've not a clue how to use libs to do it...I see that HTF uses Babble-Herbs, would I just use PeriodicTable-Consumables?  If so, how?
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04:33.49CIA-2203xionglingfeng * r44403 10ArkInventory/Locale/zhCN.lua:
04:33.49CIA-22ArkInventory:
04:33.49CIA-22- I have translate a new version for Chinese Simplify language file.
04:41.35NM|Xinhuanckknight - parserlib doesn't enable itself properly btw - when used as standalonelibraries and you start wow with all libraries disabled
04:42.19NM|Xinhuannot quite sure if its a SCT issue or parserlib issue
04:42.42KemayoThis.  Is.  Retarded.  http://pics.livejournal.com/kemayo/pic/0003kywe
04:43.00NightHawkTheSanebwahaha, i have your lj name! commence stalking!
04:43.14KemayoNightHawkTheSane: Truly, my LJ name is so very hard to guess.  :P
04:43.27NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: indeed. and like i'd really care enough to stalk anyone :D
04:43.28ArrowmasterNM|Xinhuan: ckknight isnt responsible for parserlib, only parser-3.0
04:43.54NM|Xinhuanisn't parser3.0 part of parserlib? or am i mistaken
04:43.54NightHawkTheSaneKemayo: and what are you referring to as retarded, the fact that someone may not be able to tell the difference between 20 and 25?
04:44.41KemayoNightHawkTheSane: No, actually.  It's retarded that they have three options.  The only necessary one is "I'm not sure" -- if they can figure out what game the key is for without being told, why bother with the UI cruft of asking us to pick?
04:45.00NightHawkTheSaneHm, fair point
04:45.11KemayoI picked "I'm not sure" entirely because it gave me a single text box so I could just copy-paste from the email. :D
04:45.19Arrowmasterlol
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04:46.35Arrowmasterwhats more retarded is that i created a dungeon runner account from my plaync account and its entirely unusable, cant login with it and cant change the password
04:47.38[Liquidor]How does this look like then? http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4407/wowscrnshot072107063140gb1.jpg
04:47.39Arrowmastersays to contact support but i couldnt find a damn way to contact support
04:49.13[Liquidor]Time in US?
04:50.04Arrowmasterright now? 12:50am EDT
04:50.19RogueShadowmmm. yeah.
04:50.23RogueShadowtoo late...
04:50.24NightHawkTheSane[Liquidor]: gonna have to be more specific than that
04:50.25RogueShadowgrr
04:50.38NightHawkTheSaneThe US spans.. uh.. 6 time zones? 7? 8?
04:50.38[Liquidor]NightHawkTheSane, I know. Uhm let's say Eastern
04:50.48NightHawkTheSanethen yes, 12:50 :P
04:50.48Arrowmaster4 main ones
04:51.10[Liquidor]Oh I don't really like am and pm :((
04:51.13NightHawkTheSaneArrowmaster: yeah, but there's at least one person from hawaii who frequents here, so it's fair to say at least 5
04:51.26[Liquidor]I mean.. at what part of the day is 12:00am ? 12:00pm ?
04:51.34NightHawkTheSane00:50
04:51.41Arrowmaster00:51
04:51.44NightHawkTheSane:P
04:52.22[Liquidor]Just wondering....
04:52.25Arrowmasterbut yeah its screwy, 12:00am is midnight and 12:00pm is noon
04:52.39Arrowmasterso 12am comes before 1am
04:54.22[Liquidor]College(s?) and all that in US... Do you even have parties and cliques like in the movies we get to see in EU ? Or is it just dull and borring? When I talk about parties I'm talking about movies like American Pie 1,2... Oh and do you really get education based on how good you handle a ball?
04:54.49Arrowmasterdepends
04:55.50NightHawkTheSane[Liquidor]: don't go by the movies, but yes, there are parties and cliques. it really depends on the school and such, though
04:55.53Arrowmasterive been in college since 2004 and never been to one of those parties, but the college i goto doesnt even have dorms or frats or anything like that
04:56.23NightHawkTheSanepansy ass liberal arts colleges or colleges with a very significant sports program are likely to be more like that.
04:56.41[Liquidor]Hehe I get it
04:57.36[Liquidor]What happens if you get sick in US? I mean really bad.... Cause I've heard you have to pay for all of it if you want to see a doctor etc? :S
04:58.07NightHawkTheSanewell, someone has to pay for it. It's either you, or your insurance, depending on how good it is.:P
04:58.09[Liquidor]Gawd, wish I could go over there and visiti US for some time.
04:58.17NightHawkTheSaneno, you really don't want to.
04:58.19[Liquidor]NightHawkTheSane, do you have one?
04:58.51NightHawkTheSanedo I have insurance? Yes. Most people have some form of health insurance, without it, doctors fees can be extremely exorbitant
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04:59.34[Liquidor]Well there is exceptions aight? I mean, if you're dieing of a heart attack? The doctors won't help if you got no insurance?
04:59.56[Liquidor]have*
05:00.05Arrowmastertheyll help, but youll have a very large bill later
05:00.09NightHawkTheSaneyes.
05:00.36[Liquidor]kk
05:01.02[Liquidor]Any suggestion to another unitframe addon/layout ? http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4407/wowscrnshot072107063140gb1.jpg
05:01.08[Liquidor]That one on the pic just doesn't fit.
05:02.21[Liquidor]And you don't happen to know if eePanels will ever get Event features? (e.g. show/hide options upon events)
05:03.42Layrajha... I love being new to something
05:03.55Layrajhajust spent 1h or so trying to guess why my code wasn't working
05:04.08Layrajhai just had one library commented in my .toc
05:04.19Layrajha<PROTECTED>
05:05.16[Liquidor]Ye best part of developing and meeting a bug is if the error is in the .toc (the last place you look if the error message doesn't give a hint)
05:06.03Layrajhaand actually it didn't ;)
05:06.59[Liquidor]Ye, that sucks.
05:07.32Layrajhawell i don't really mind, if i don't spend at least 60% of my coding time debugging, there's something going wrong
05:09.40Layrajhathough i still don't get why I happen to need to define my ":new()" method
05:10.00Layrajhawhile i've defined ".prototype:init()"
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05:18.54aen`/use [nomodifier] Instant Poison; [modifier:alt] Crippling Poison
05:18.54aen`/use [button:1] 16; [button:2] 17
05:19.03aen`doesnt seem to be working for poison application
05:19.11aen`am i doin something wrong?
05:23.16Layrajhathe modifiers don't work?
05:23.36Layrajhai mean, does it work with just /use Instant Poison    /use 16
05:23.37Layrajha?
05:24.51aen`nothing
05:26.51aen`i guess i gotta give it the rank
05:28.32CIA-2203samuelcup * r44404 10SCT_SpellReady/ (6 files): SCT_SpellReady: display SCT messages when select spells are ready for cast
05:28.43NightHawkTheSane"I do appreciate that you were the one to come see me, that means something." "Uh, actually, no it doesn't. We.. we drew straws... I lost."
05:32.25art3misgod i cant get that song out of my head
05:32.33art3mishttp://tinyurl.com/ys2xqh  <-- that one
05:33.05art3miswent to the store and saw a car with spinners
05:33.18art3misand immediately buy some land buy some land buy some mutha fsckin land
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05:37.30Fisker-i'm gonna kill you art3mis
05:38.03art3miswhys that?
05:38.08art3misgot stuck in your head too?
05:40.35Fisker-i'm itchy from those fucking bloodsuckers
05:40.35Fisker-i wanna destroy stuff
05:41.13art3misim not quite following this, did you get crabs or bad acid
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05:42.41rophyNM|Xinhuan: ParserLib does not use AceLibrary so you have to enable it if disembedded.
05:43.32Layrajhahmmm
05:43.40Layrajhain AceDB
05:44.00Layrajhaare self.db.char and self.db.account deprecated or something? or am i just dumb? ;)
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05:46.40Antiarchttp://www.philosophiste.com/images/spoiler.jpg
05:47.01NM|Xinhuanhmm
05:47.14NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: lol
05:48.54art3mishah thats great
05:50.48art3misron decapitates harry because he's really a robot made by voldemorte
05:55.20Layrajha<art3mis> ron decapitates harry because he's really a robot made by voldemorte:  lies, voldemorte is a robot made by ron actually
05:55.36art3misheh
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06:13.10ZealotOnAStickAntiarc: what's Soar?
06:13.18AntiarcAbstraction layer for floating combat text
06:13.34AntiarcBasically lets you embed a method that lets you publish to any installed floating combat text addon
06:13.55ZealotOnAStickAh.  Useful idea.  
06:14.05AntiarcSo you can self:ShowSoarMessage("Whatever") and it'll show in Parrot or SCT or MSBT or the Blizzard floating combat text, depending on what's installed.
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06:14.23NightHawkTheSanea) that's neat. b) I am amused, frightened, and boggled by the idea that we're at the point where we're developing "Abstraction Layer" mods. :P
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06:32.34CIA-2203antiarc * r44407 10Soar-1.0/Soar-1.0/Soar-1.0.lua:
06:32.34CIA-22Soar-1.0: API reorganization
06:32.34CIA-22:SendSoarMessage -> :SoarMessage
06:32.34CIA-22NEW: :SoarNotify
06:32.34CIA-22NEW: :SoarIncoming
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06:33.29Tinyboomart3mis: argh..... what a way to start the morning! *brain just melted*
06:34.33aen`ah shit
06:34.48aen`eepanels profile didnt save apparently :/
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06:35.14Gngskammo, ping
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06:41.16[Ammo]pong
06:42.10CIA-2203antiarc * r44409 10Omen/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Omen: Added scrolling combat text support via Soar with appropriate options.
06:43.42[Ammo]Antiarc: soar is a bit limited
06:43.58AntiarcIt's not really intended to be anything terribly complex.
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06:44.14[Ammo]well it could list the msbt areas and parrot areas
06:44.21[Ammo]and create aceoption injection tables
06:44.30[Ammo]that would make it a lot more useful
06:44.40AntiarcIt provides access to notify/incoming/outgoing areas as of last commit
06:44.52aen`im suprised wowhead doesnt have a filter for sorting by armor type
06:44.54Antiarcnot sure what you mean about the injection tables
06:44.55[Ammo]but I don't have those if I change my parrot or msbt around
06:45.00aen`unless im completly missing it
06:45.15[Ammo]hence you need to query the addons for the scrollareas
06:45.24[Ammo]and I mean option tables for the addons that use soar
06:45.34[Ammo]so they can get a selection list of where to send something to
06:45.36NightHawkTheSaneaen`: browse->items->armor->cloth/leather/mail/plate
06:45.50aen`im sorting by boss drops
06:45.50Antiarcthat makes sense.
06:45.52aen`from instances
06:46.02NightHawkTheSaneah. *shrug*
06:46.12NightHawkTheSaneaen`: try "usable by"?
06:46.31[Ammo]not only makes sense, makes it 100% more useful than now
06:46.32[Ammo]:)
06:46.48[Ammo]in fact, I think vhaarr had already made a proposal
06:46.50[Ammo]for something like that
06:46.55[Ammo]with some pseudo/drycode
06:47.03AntiarcYeah, he showed me a prototype he'd put together
06:47.10aen`NightHawkTheSane: yes, and it shows cloth too
06:47.12AntiarcBut I didn't really like the BigWigs/DBM direction he was headed
06:47.42[Ammo]what I'm trying to say is, make it way more generic
06:47.50[Ammo]otherwise it'll be a useless lib used in Omen only
06:48.19Mecdemortcan you add values to pass for aceOptions set and get?
06:49.02Gngsk[Ammo], did you ever see my request for shift looting and perhaps control destroying in crowbar?
06:49.27[Ammo]I did, and I shot it down
06:49.31Gngskok
06:49.33[Ammo]it's now in a hole in the garden
06:49.42Gngskthat's fine, was just curious
06:49.50GngskI added it today for myself so I'm content with your reply
06:50.04[Ammo]the only thing I might add is a tooltip when hovering
06:50.19[Ammo]and the option to 'don't open during this session'
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06:50.38[Ammo]but the need has not been greater than, hmm...
06:51.34Gngskat any rate, thanks for makin' locksmith and crowbar. dunno how I played without 'em now that I have 'em
06:53.26ckknighthey all, back
06:56.13Brunersanyone know if the newest (k)ubuntu release  support wpa-psk out of the box?
06:56.34deltronyes
06:56.54deltronpretty sure at least, I can boot into it and test :P
06:57.48Brunerscant get it to work on 6.10, tempted to do a clean install of 7.04
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07:06.08CIA-2203sayclub * r44410 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update
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07:11.16Mecdemortso, if I'm generating aceOptions menus on the fly, would there be a way to pass the name of the specific group name to the set,get, and func functions?
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07:13.12ckknightpassValue = group
07:15.25Mecdemortit says that value is only passed to func, disabled, and hidden
07:17.01ckknightand get and set
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07:18.00Mecdemortfor set does it do let setfunc(passvalue, setvalue)?
07:18.08Mecdemortlike*
07:18.54Nargiddleyyes
07:19.24Mecdemortcool, might just add that to the wiki
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07:37.30ckknightI think I may add sourceEnemy/recipientEnemy = true/false to Parser-3.0
07:38.22CIA-2203ckknight * r44412 10Parrot/AnimationStyles.lua: Parrot_AnimationStyles - make rainbows more centered vertically.
07:39.40ckknightor actually, sourceIsEnemy/recipientIsEnemy
07:40.09MoonWolfhmmm, would it be possible to convice actionbuttons to do a spellstopcasting on mousedown, and then their normal action on click ?
07:41.17ckknightdoesn't spellstopcasing require a hardware event?
07:42.31MoonWolfthat's what i'm wondering.
07:42.52MoonWolfI want to get rid of my spellstopcasting macro's.
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07:46.15NightHawkTheSanespellstopcasting requires a hardware event, but does not "consume" it, iirc.
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07:50.06Mecdemortcan I just define passValue in the group level or do I need to define it for each subtype
07:50.31Nargiddleyeach option uses its own
07:51.05Mecdemorteven if they'd all use the same value, gotta set them individually?
07:52.50Nargiddleyyes its not inherited to sub groups
07:53.05Mecdemortok ty
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08:12.43[Ammo]ckknight: any chance of adding (1 hit 2 crit) when combining damage etc?
08:12.46[Ammo]in parrot
08:13.01ckknightunlikely, honestly
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08:15.59Diaoergh
08:17.22[Ammo]ckknight: hmm fail
08:17.28[Ammo]kinda hard to see what it combined atm
08:17.52[Ammo]and for seed of corruption it's very handy to see how many it hit
08:18.07[Ammo]and/or crit
08:18.11Diaoi can't tell if it's pitbull doing this or not cause it only happens randomly after zoning but http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7347/wowscrnshot072107011625sq9.jpg
08:18.29Diaoand it's always aligned to one of my party frames
08:18.53Mikkfunky
08:19.32Diaoand it's different colors
08:19.40Brunersi have that aswell, but in light blue
08:19.42Diaosometimes it's like that, other times i get a lighter grey, pink, blue, green
08:19.45Brunersbut solid color
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08:20.09Diaoit's driving me nuts
08:20.15Diaoit goes away after a couple minutes though
08:20.26Diaoand then pops up again randomly later
08:22.03omegaDiao: think its funny how you have the day of week, date with year and full time-stamp in every chat window :p
08:22.15SaiekJust in case he forgets
08:22.25omegaits imperative that you know exactly what date and second that heroic strike hit for 754 :p
08:23.40SaiekExactly!
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08:26.20omegaDiao: but I like the cleanness of you interface alot. Apart from that big transcluent black box covering half of it of course :p
08:26.52Diaolol
08:27.05Diaothanks =)
08:27.17[Liquidor]omega, which UF do you use?
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08:32.14omegame? Pitbull
08:32.52[Liquidor]mkay
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08:47.24Diaowhy didn't paladins get the BoP for spells that they were going to get in BC :(
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09:10.10CIA-2203darchon * r44413 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: Update koKR
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09:23.04Mecdemortwtb an easy way to strip all the local strings from my file
09:26.55Bam__local strings?
09:27.04Mecdemortlocale
09:28.17Bam__well if they aren't marked as being special, no tool really can do that I guess
09:30.50CIA-2203bam * r44414 10ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0.lua:
09:30.50CIA-22ItemPrice-1.0:
09:30.50CIA-22- Updated with extra items from the EU Armory... apparently they use different databases.
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09:34.00mjcBam__: that's hot.
09:34.11Bam__which is?
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09:36.24mjcBam__: that EU armory and US armory use different DBs
09:37.14Bam__I hope they will consolidate them when the armory is out of beta though
09:38.01Bam__not to please dataminers like me of course :D but it seems a bit silly for regular users if they need to search two places :P
09:38.25mjcman; I upgraded our mail setup today... srs fucking bsns
09:39.04Bam__and the stability of the EU armory server is terrible... it randomly throws empty pages at me :(
09:39.08mjcnice
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09:39.44mjcBam__: they might be trying to slow dataminers
09:40.29Bam__then they aren't doing it right... it just means I have to make several extra HTTP connections :P
09:40.38mjcheh
09:40.47mjcpipelining man
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09:41.16CIA-2203samuelcup * r44415 10Grid/ (GridLocale-enUS.lua GridLocale-zhCN.lua):
09:41.16CIA-22Grid: Updated zhCN translation
09:41.16CIA-22Deleted ["Low Mana"] in line 186 since it was duplicate with line 182.
09:41.20Bam__I am struggling a bit to find the best way to mine the data... I am using wget currently
09:41.41mjcwget does a pretty decent job if you use the right options
09:42.03mjcBam__: what data re you getting? just item costs?
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09:42.07mjcor other things
09:42.46Bam__that's the only thing I am parsing... but I download the entire page and save it locally
09:43.04mjclink me
09:43.14Bam__hmm?
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09:43.29mjcto said page
09:43.33mjcmaybe I can help
09:43.41Bam__to the armory?
09:43.51mjcto where you are getting the prices from the armory
09:44.32Bam__oh well that's simply a matter of downloading the entire page for each item id
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09:45.14mjcso you have a list of item ids then and you can pass wget a list of urls to grab
09:45.17Bam__there is no way to search for prices.. so I have to go through all item ids from 1 to some high number... I went up to 35000
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09:45.36mjchave you pruned invalid IDs from your list?
09:46.03Bam__I have no way to no before attempting to download it :(
09:46.16mjcyes but the first time around you can find that out and prune them
09:46.42mjcthen do regular data, and maybe go back and check invalids after but I'm sure people around here oculd help you
09:46.55Bam__yes, but I also want to find out when they add new items
09:47.11Bam__don't see any other way than a full scan
09:47.21Bam__which I won't do too often :P
09:47.45Bam__the armory has not exactly been designed with datamining in mind hehe
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09:49.04Bam__anyway now that I have all those files, there are definitely other interesting things that could be scanned for... like disenchant data and drop percentages
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10:11.15ArrowmasterBam__: fyi you can datamine the sell values from the client files
10:11.53Bam__Arrowmaster: yea I am being told that... I just thought it was only stored in the server....
10:12.21Bam__I suppose if I were to do that, I'd have to be "silent" about it :P
10:12.44Arrowmasterthere was a small program writen in C to get the sell values from the cache, it broke but i fixed it
10:13.29Arrowmasterbut that only worked on the cache
10:13.34Bam__might be the way to go...
10:13.48Arrowmasterdont know how to get it from the non cache files
10:14.50AKXre.compile("(?P<k>[A-Za-z0-9_]+)\\s?=\\s?((?P<q>[\"'])(?P<v>.+?)((?<!\\)(?P=q))|(?P<v>[^,]+))")
10:14.59AKXRegexp from Hell crits you for over 9000.
10:15.07Bam__now that Blizzard themselves are making them available through the armory, I wouldn't feel too bad about scanning those files anyway :P
10:16.12Arrowmasteryeah it takes a while to get useful stuff in your local cache anyway, more worth it to use the true game files if its in those which it should be
10:17.04Bam__this surprises me... I really thought that kind of information was only on the server...
10:17.06Arrowmasterif you want the program to get it from the cache check my posts on the wowace forums in the colalight thread
10:17.30Bam__ok
10:19.42Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2351.msg77820#msg77820
10:19.45Arrowmasterthere it is
10:20.01Arrowmastercouldnt see attached files when only looking at my own posts
10:21.35Arrowmastergona go get some sleep now
10:21.51Bam__sleep well
10:22.39CIA-2203gamefaq * r44416 10Omen/localization_deDE.lua: Omen: deDE Update
10:24.00Mecdemortare there any programs that'll validate lua without having to do it ingame?
10:25.32Bam__luac -p
10:25.44Bam__does syntax checking
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10:28.41MecdemortBam__: ok ty
10:28.57Mecdemortsuppose i gotta actually download the compiler first ;p
10:29.11Bam__yea you want Lua standalone
10:29.31Bam__somewhere on www.lua.org
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10:29.39Mecdemortya thats what im lookin for now
10:29.42AKXOr I can just send you one
10:29.49AKXI compiled it not a long time ago.
10:30.12nevcairieli could also recommend the lua version on wowinterface, with all tweaks blizzard did to it
10:30.15MecdemortI found it already
10:30.18AKXOki.
10:30.31Mecdemortnevcairiel:  say what?
10:30.54nevcairielhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5300-Lua5.1.1WoW.html
10:30.59nevcairielthats basicly the lua wow uses
10:30.59Bam__well some of the tweaks... not all the tainting hehe :P
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10:38.18Mecdemortnow i just gotta figure out how to set compilers in scite
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10:42.57Mecdemortyou were saying luac -p would just do syntax?
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10:43.47Mecdemortoo its very nice
10:43.50Bam__yea
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10:44.15Mecdemorti love you
10:44.21ramozis there any addon for unlocking frames? (Like the social pane, char pane and so on...)
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10:44.42Bam__aww :P
10:45.17Mecdemortramoz: Visor and VisorGUI will let you move them, dunno about with mouse tho
10:46.39Bam__I used MobileFrames before patch... but I can't remember if it still works or if there are some problems with it
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10:54.23ramozthanks Mecdemort and Bam__
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11:00.04Mecdemortits amazing how usually the best way to do something is also the simplest and cleanest
11:10.36sylvanaarok is there an easy way to get eclipse plugins now? like 1 location/directory?
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11:16.57sbmeh
11:17.05sbwtb rogue :/
11:17.13sbmechanar-chest-farming :/
11:17.17sb(solo)
11:18.36sbwhat?
11:18.37sb:/
11:18.44Fisker-0wned
11:21.39Fisker-http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/6767/ <-lol nice idea
11:25.19nevcairielmeh i hate this
11:25.30Ominouswhat?
11:25.31nevcairieli dont want any floating combat text support in omen, still i need that soar lib now
11:25.42nevcairielsoem stuff should be optional :P
11:26.34Ominousgod i hate this 1mb connection i have here on holiday :S, wtb my home one
11:28.50Ominousi mean its taking me 2 hours just to download a 700mb cd image /argh
11:30.31MoonWolfFisker-, really old idea
11:30.36MoonWolftem made taht, like, ages ago.
11:30.53Fisker-QQ moar MoonWolf :<
11:30.56Fisker-never seen it :(
11:31.26MoonWolfnobody ever really did anything with it, we were all over the advanced onebag stuff at the time.
11:31.51Fisker-my mother
11:32.04MoonWolfyour mother ?
11:32.11Fisker-:(
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11:34.27RadonCan anyone help me? If an Event has more than one args (arg1... arg8), how can I access them when using AceEvent?
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11:37.02charonany quartz experts around?
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11:38.51OminousRadon: mod:RegisterEvent("event") function mod:event(a1, a2, a3, ...)
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11:39.33sylvanaarldt? yes?
11:39.36RadonOmninous: I did this but it doesn't seem to work...
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11:40.32RadonOmninous: acording to wowwiki, the UNIT_AURA event does have several args http://www.wowwiki.com/UNIT_AURA
11:40.46Radonbut I only get the first one
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11:41.32Undineanyone recommend nice mage mods?
11:42.08ThelynaRadon: wowwiki is wrong
11:42.17ThelynaUNIT_AURA only has one argument
11:42.38charonquartz seems to have this swing timer feature... it _sometimes_ appears when i'm in cat form, but i'm having some problems understanding when exactly
11:42.38Thelynawhich is the person who the aura changed on
11:42.38charoni'd like it to appear _never_ in cat, and _always_ in bear, is that possible?
11:42.59RadonThelyna: humn thatds bad, I thought I could get unit buff infos without scanning the whole buff table all the time
11:43.16ThelynaRadon: yeah I know, it's a pain in the ass
11:43.33Thelynaunfortunately, scanning unitbuffs seems to be the only way to go
11:43.44Cryectuse SpecialEvents-Aura?
11:44.40Cryectit caches the scan so at least its only done once for all the addons using it
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11:46.05CryectFor documentation http://web.archive.org/web/20070316174237/www.wowace.com/wiki/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0
11:46.31Cryectso can just use SpecialEvents_PlayerBuffGained
11:46.43CryectI mean SpecialEvents_UnitBuffGained
11:48.03CIA-2203cwdg * r44417 10Babble-2.2/ (6 files in 6 dirs):
11:48.03CIA-22Babble-2.2:
11:48.03CIA-22-update herbs ore tradeskill and vendor zhCN local
11:48.03CIA-22add zhCN local for quest and trainer
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11:54.05Srosh~seen thrae
11:54.06purlthrae is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 9h 25m 52s) #wowace (1d 9h 25m 52s) #wowwiki (1d 9h 25m 52s). Has said a total of 70 messages. Is idling for 1d 3h 17m 50s, last said: '2025 -- "The United States changes its name to the 'Federation of Earth' and declares all countries not within its immediate surrender are civil insurgents."'.
11:54.55ThraeSrosh: To answer your question from 4am this morning -- no
11:55.26SroshHm, k. Strange then.
11:55.50SroshAnd thanks for answering. :)
11:56.16SroshCause it doesn't seem to have any effect ingame.
11:56.56ThraeWell, did you change the values?
11:57.04SroshYeah, I did.
11:57.42SroshFor example, I set MCursorAnchor to TOPLEFT.
11:57.53SroshBut it's still BOTTOM in the game.
11:58.09ThraeHmm, when you mouseover something in the world?
11:58.14RadonCryect: SpecialEvents doesn't seem to have the "new" duration, timeleft args from UnitDebuff()
11:58.34SroshYep.
11:58.49ThraeA more recent patch might have done something. I'll look into it.
11:59.34SroshOh, it seems, it's the anchoring only. The border coloring option works, I see now.
12:01.42ThraeSomeone else reported something like that. I thought I fixed it, but I guess I didn't. I'll look into the anchoring problem.
12:03.02SroshAppreciated! And the other question, is it possible to deactivate the frames tooltip?
12:03.45ThraeNo, but that was in the old version, so I plan on adding the option back in
12:03.55SroshNice.
12:07.54charonhow do i go about debugging UI lockups?
12:07.55CIA-2203cwdg * r44418 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua:
12:07.55CIA-22BanzaiAlert: add zhCN local
12:07.55CIA-22thx cwowaddon.com
12:08.54CryectRadon: It tells you the index of the buff/debuff gained so you can check it yourself
12:09.46CryectAlso
12:09.50Cryectthat documentation is old
12:09.55Cryectit returns duration
12:10.07CryectExample: self:TriggerEvent("SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffGained", unit, name, count, dispelType, icon, rank, index, duration, timeLeft)
12:11.00Radonah nice
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12:11.29CryectUnfortunately just will have to check the file but it appears at quick glance all the same besides durationa nd timeleft attached to the end of them all
12:11.38Cryectwhich makes sense for backwards compatibility
12:11.44Radonya seems so
12:13.19CIA-2203cwdg * r44419 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc locale/zhCN.lua):
12:13.19CIA-22cyCircled:
12:13.19CIA-22- update zhCN local
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12:18.09ThraeSrosh: I added the option you requested.
12:18.18CIA-2203cryect * r44420 10Relog/ (Relog.lua parse.lua):
12:18.18CIA-22Relog - Reworked how logs were added slightly
12:18.18CIA-22- Parse Events "Death", "Dispel", "Drain", "Durability" now also processed
12:18.25SroshWow, that was fast. Thanks!
12:19.01CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r104 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (StandAloneConfig.lua TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc):
12:19.01CIA-22thrae-wow: TinyTip: Added "HIDDEN" option to FAnchor and MAnchor to allow you to hide the
12:19.01CIA-22thrae-wow: tooltip for frames and mouseover units respectively. Also, now TinyTip uses a
12:19.01CIA-22thrae-wow: separate file called "StandAloneConfig.lua" for its standalone database. This
12:19.01CIA-22thrae-wow: should ease SVN users a little.
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12:19.35Cryectnow cia bot was slow!
12:19.46CryectI was wondering if thrae had removed the post commit :-p
12:20.27ThraeCryect: Google SVN doesn't have post commits. Instead, it sends out an email.
12:20.36charonhm let me rephrase the earlier question
12:21.07charonif i move the ArkInventory bank display "too far", it consistently freezes the whole UI
12:21.10Cryectoh no wonder its slow then
12:21.10RadonCryect: SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffGained doesn't seem to update when another debuff stack is applied
12:21.15CIA-2203cwdg * r44421 10simpleMinimap/ (localizations.lua simpleMinimap.toc):
12:21.15CIA-22simpleMinimap:
12:21.15CIA-22- update zhCN local
12:21.24Cryectradon: there is another event one second
12:21.33charonhow do i figure out what's wrong?
12:21.36Cryectself:TriggerEvent("SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffCountChanged", unit, name, count, dispelType, icon, rank, index, duration, timeLeft)
12:21.44Radonah ok
12:21.59Cryectalso
12:22.02Cryectself:TriggerEvent("SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffRefreshed", unit, name, count, dispelType, icon, rank, index, duration, timeLeft)
12:22.52Radongonna test it
12:24.27charonam i on everyone's ignore list or what :(
12:25.17Thraecharon: Post an issue on Trac, or on the thread on the Wowace forum.
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12:30.36CIA-2203cwdg * r44422 10Skinner/ (Localisations.lua Skinner.toc): Skinner: update zhCN local
12:30.56CIA-2203cryect * r44423 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Sync fix for when joining a raid
12:34.09SroshThrae, the HIDDEN option doesn't seem to work? I still get a tooltip in the lower right corner when hovering over a unit frame.
12:34.15blayis there an addon that "replaces" informant's function of listing an item's use, like trade, alchemy, leatherworking, etc.?
12:34.17CIA-2203rabbit * r44424 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs: Options: Fix Waterfall opening.
12:35.49CIA-2203cwdg * r44425 10Automaton/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Automaton:add zhCN/zhTW local for it
12:35.50CIA-2203cryect * r44426 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Correctly calls :NewRaidMember() on a new member actually joining instead of the wrong function (will fix version checking and some sync issues)
12:38.02RadonCryect: Nice, now I use all 3 events with one function and it works perfectly for scorch debuff :>
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12:44.29charonThrae: will do... but meh, it's not just that question, the last like 8 or so i asked have gone unanswered :(
12:45.05charonmust be the wrong questions i guess
12:45.16Thraecharon: It's 8:44am EST...lots of devs are in places like Europe when it's an even wackier time, and most are probably still asleep since it's Saturday morning.
12:45.41Thraecharon: Most active times are after 1pm EST I find.
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12:46.01Matrix110~seen Tuller
12:46.05purltuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 10h 58m 29s ago, saying: 'hrm, why in the world is Sage listed in the bar mods category, and not in the unitframes one? :)'.
12:46.34SroshCentral Europe is at 14:46; so not really a wacky time. :D
12:46.35charonThrae: in that wacky part of wacky europe _i_ live it's the absolutely unthinkable time of 14:46 ;)
12:46.43charonbut yeah you've got a point
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12:47.01ThraeWell, uh, I meant places like Australia...which now that I think of it, isn't in Europe.
12:47.33SroshJust do a HL once and most answer when they're back - like T.hrae kindly did with my question. ^^
12:47.36Matrix110"common" mistake Austria vs Australia :P
12:48.06Megalonpft
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12:48.33ThraeSrosh: OK, try that for the "HIDDEN" option
12:49.05CIA-22thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r105 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Hook OnShow to hide tooltip. Fix for "HIDDEN".
12:50.22SroshNope. =(
12:51.39ThraeSrosh: Hmmm, very odd. I'll have to look into it when I have time to login & test.
12:51.58SroshAlrighty.
12:52.03sbCryect: relog is going to work w/o recount, right?
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13:07.20Brunersany reports on violation not grapping pet dmg ?
13:08.19CIA-2203cwdg * r44427 10SRA/ (SRA.toc locales/zhCN.lua locales/zhTW.lua):
13:08.19CIA-22SRA:
13:08.19CIA-22- add zhCN/zhTw local
13:09.49nevcairielpeople even start translating SRA before its remotely finished oO^^
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13:13.42CIA-2203cryect * r44428 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes if a nontable tries to get freed as a table
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13:17.17sbCryect? :o
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13:22.15Cryectyes?
13:22.54Cryectsb: Oh yes
13:23.01Cryectsb: Relog is standalone
13:26.01sbah okay :)
13:26.24sbbecause i really dont need recount (wws is fine - dont need that stuff in-game :o)
13:26.43Cryecthehe :)
13:27.17CryectI got too lazy for WWS and wanted to make some good use of GraphLib
13:33.22ramozwhat doed SRA do?
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13:41.43CIA-2203cwdg * r44429 10Prat/ (41 files in 4 dirs): Prat: update zhCN local.
13:45.37ChompersCryect: how's your syncing in recount coming along?
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13:49.10CryectChompers: In theory, it should be working now (haven't really tested it much since guildies using recount are slow at updating :-p)
13:49.22Chompersha
13:49.40Chompersi'll try to get a few guildies using it, see what it's like
13:50.12ramozdoes it sync automaticly?
13:50.17Cryectyes
13:50.29ramozcause we're atleast 10 people in the raid using it
13:50.40ramozcan you reset for all clients aswell?
13:50.44Fisker-hoho
13:51.06CryectThe one thing btw you will notice potentially notice it doesn't match is Healing/Overhealing but the sum of them two will match (its actually an issue in SWStats that it will overcount both them due to clients seeing different overheal amounts)
13:51.07Fisker-i'm datamining almost 18 items a second in the armory :P
13:51.22Chomperswhat for Fisker-?
13:51.31Fisker-looking for stuff
13:51.31Cryectramoz: no you can't force others to reset, its individual resets but you all should match for last/current fight data
13:51.57ramozok
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13:52.01Cryectand when I get around to it you will be able to automatically save certain fights that meet certain conditions (ex. was a boss involved)
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13:52.41Chompersexport to html, perhaps :D
13:52.42ramozalso - autoreset when i boss encounter starts? :O
13:53.02Cryectwhy do I need to autoreset? its the current/last fight
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13:53.23Cryectthere is plans to add boss modules in the future so you split up boss fights
13:53.37ramozcool
13:54.05Cryectbut it already automatically handles reseting the appropriate entries for the fight itself (well assuming you go out of combat before the fight starts so Leotheras the first part still gets counted in)
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14:12.57charonum, is impact _supposed to_ proc off molten armor?
14:13.38MorghusYes
14:13.42Mikksounds a bit frostmagey
14:13.56MorghusIt's a firespell :)
14:14.04Mikkdur rly
14:14.09charonand it does that at its usual 10%?
14:14.12Chompershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBKqNt5ysq4
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14:14.50charonbecause, you see... assume a 1sec attack speed which is exact for kitten and probably a good estimate for a rogue
14:15.02charonso it procs once every 10s on average
14:15.09charonfor a 2s stun
14:15.30Mikkit's not something you can exactly count on to let you win a fight
14:15.37Mikkbut sounds like a nice rating booster in arena :P
14:15.52charoncall me frustrated because several fire mages have had it very easy against me due to impact, but a _20%_ damage reduce is way over the top
14:21.46CheadsCryect is recount supposed to sync with i.e. swstats and violation ?
14:23.01Chompersi guess its recount > recount at the moment
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14:33.43CIA-2203cryect * r44430 10Relog/ (Relog.lua parse.lua):
14:33.43CIA-22Relog - Parse Events "Enchant", "Environmental", "Experience", "Extra Attack" and "Fade" now also processed
14:33.43CIA-22- Makes use of abbreviations now when recording log data
14:34.20CryectCheads: Just Recount, SWStats and Violation could only be used for tracking damage data since their healing data is potentially wrong
14:34.42CryectCould track decurses as well I guess
14:38.23Cryectlot of work to handle properly since would mess up DPS numbers etc
14:38.57Cheadsok, so if a party have player1 with swstats, player2 with violation and player3 with recount, then damage will be synched.. but not healing
14:39.14Cryectno nothing will be synced :-p
14:39.39CryectI was going to implement it till I ran into potential cases which would result in wrong data
14:39.43Cryectlike if I add Damage
14:39.51Cryectthis would result in DPS numbers being wrong
14:40.01Cryectsince I don't get activity for hte supposed missing people
14:40.14CryectRecount syncs completely different
14:40.26Cryectits event based instead of occasional total sum updates
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14:41.38Cheadsok
14:42.03RadonCryect: The SpecialEvents Debuff Changed Events are also fired if the player changes targets ?
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14:42.12CIA-22GotWood:
14:42.12CIA-22- cleanup
14:42.15Cryectuh no idea?
14:42.48Radonjust tested it and made a seperate event handling for target change but then got the information twice :>
14:42.58Cryecthaha ah nice
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14:49.32SarozWhat's relog?
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14:49.47Sarozand is anyone using Parrot?
14:54.24CIA-2203phyber * r44432 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
14:54.24CIA-22FuBar_TopScoreFu:
14:54.24CIA-22- Fix call to Parrot:ShowMessage() to use the new r,g,b format
14:54.39phyberno idea what Relog is and I use Parrot.
14:55.39durcynlooks like a rewrite of expiration
14:57.10[Liquidor]PitBull doesn't hide blizzard buff frames?
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15:00.55syerenYou can make it do so.
15:01.11syerenHide Blizzard Frames >
15:04.48[Liquidor]Doesn't hide the BuffFrame
15:08.13odtrelog is something like swstats unilog, i think
15:08.26odtbut there's a caps warning that it's not usable yet, so
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15:11.10CIA-2203xbeeps * r44433 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (. FuBar_GarbageFu.toc GarbageFu.lua GarbageFu_Vendor.lua):
15:11.10CIA-22FuBar_GarbageFu:
15:11.10CIA-22- Removed ItemPrice-1.0 integration.
15:11.10CIA-22- Reinserted support for external vendor addons.
15:11.10CIA-22- Fixed GetSellValue API implementation.
15:13.28Fisker-http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/5441/lolarmorysy4.jpg <-poor internet explorer
15:14.34[Liquidor]ckknight, how do I use a PitBull modules options?
15:15.10[Liquidor]Cause it seems like PB_HideBlizzard doesn't hide my BuffFrame and I can't really find the slashes to access the options -.-
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15:19.08NightHawkTheSaneI think HideBlizzard only hides unit frames.
15:19.15NightHawkTheSanenot your buff/debuff frames
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15:24.25phyberNightHawkTheSane: it can hide quite a few of Blizzards frames, including the buff/debuff.
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15:24.44NightHawkTheSaneah, okay. *shrug*
15:24.53phybercould be something else forcing them to show again.
15:25.58Wobinhttp://xkcd.com/c50.html
15:26.00Wobinso true
15:28.19dylanmGood luck, you brave adventurer.
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15:29.42Mudkipsa
15:29.46phyberI've slaughtered many generations of Ogres.  So far, nothing.
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15:31.55CIA-2203fin * r44434 10Prat/extras/PratFu.lua: Prat: extras/PratFu.lua: removed unused translations from a few locales
15:39.44Wobinhttp://xkcd.com/c135.html
15:39.55Wobinoh this is addictive
15:40.02Wobingood night =P i'm stopping while i'm ahead
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15:44.08CIA-2203nevcairiel * r44435 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: reverted changes from last AltNames commit, because it breaks stuff. check your translations first.
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15:46.45CIA-22VodkaKickers
15:46.45CIA-22Shortened cmd line options
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15:48.02Chompershttp://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070720/od_nm/nigeria_pornography_dc;_ylt=A0WTUfF176FG8XwBExgZ.3QA
15:48.43Jagobah:O
15:49.13Fin[17:43:08] <+Wobin> http://xkcd.com/c135.html
15:49.15Finawesome
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15:50.00Funkeh`hi all
15:50.19Fin"Remember, velociraptors can run at 10m/s and do not know fear."
15:50.21Fininspired
15:50.22Jagobahooooh omen has a new dependency
15:51.18Wobinhttp://xkcd.com/c197.html
15:51.23Wobinoh no, I'm stuck
15:56.56kergothAntiarc|Work, why isn't soar-1.0 LoD?
15:59.51CIA-2203funkydude * r44437 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (Soar-1.0/ Soar-1.0/placeholder.txt filelist.wau): !!!StandaloneLibraries: add Soar-1.0
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16:01.39CIA-2203funkydude * r44438 10Soar-1.0/ (. Soar-1.0.toc): Soar-1.0: LoD
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16:07.26Galkabhttp://ace.pastey.net/71132
16:07.30Galkaoops
16:07.59GalkaTablet lib errors:  http://ace.pastey.net/71132 & http://ace.pastey.net/71131
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16:10.40Funkeh`more like quixote errors
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16:14.03GalkaOk, thanks.  Ill let Kemayo know
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16:18.59sag_ich_nichtlol
16:19.07sag_ich_nichtI like the idea of Soar
16:19.13sag_ich_nicht:D
16:19.34phyberif only it didn't retard things.
16:19.55phyberpassing nil for font, size and outline is quite broken when using Parrot.
16:20.12phyberwell, it's probably parrots fault, but it means I can't use Soar in TopScoreFu
16:20.59phyberinstead of Parrot using the default font size and outline, it makes it really small (size 16?) when you pass nil in Soar.
16:21.26phyberif I do the Parrot:SendMessage() and omit those, it uses defaults.
16:21.47phyberwell, uses whatever the user has set in Parrot for their Notification area.
16:22.09sag_ich_nichtgo slap ckknight for it :P
16:22.10Industrial"Soar" ?
16:22.34kergothIndustrial, library for sending text to sct addons
16:23.20Industrialcant it just be an addon sending text to sct addons?
16:23.22Industrial*eyeroll*
16:24.06kergoth?
16:25.36IndustrialYeah I mean
16:26.16phyberhmm, actually.  if I tell Parrot:SendMessage() nil for the font, fontSize and outline, it does the correct thing.  so, it is Soar doing something strange when it calls it.
16:26.38IndustrialWhen deciding to make a library to do something or not - ask yourself if anyone ever besides you will use the lib :P
16:27.01kergothIndustrial, what?
16:27.11kergothdo you have any idea how many addons send text to sct addons?
16:27.16kergothi can think of like 14 off the top of my head.
16:28.21Industrialhmz
16:31.11sag_ich_nicht[18:26] <phyber> hmm, actually.  if I tell Parrot:SendMessage() nil for the font, fontSize and outline, it does the correct thing.  so, it is Soar doing something strange when it calls it. <--oO
16:31.52sag_ich_nichtstrange
16:32.32GalkaIMO Parrot's biggest drawback right now is its GUI
16:32.40phyber<PROTECTED>
16:32.43GalkaEven the Waterfall one is horrendous for config'ing such a complex addon
16:32.44phybervs.
16:32.46phyber<PROTECTED>
16:32.54GalkaMSBT's GUI is awesome, for example.
16:33.00phyberthat last false in Parrot should be nil, I was playing with something.
16:33.25phybersomewhere between Soar and Parrot, things break and Soar makes Parrot show a really small font.
16:33.36CIA-2203durcyn * r44439 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: send 1 instead of 255 to parrot, duh
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16:36.52phyberok, I see it in Soar.
16:36.54phyber'size or 16'
16:36.57phyberthat just dumb.
16:37.58phyber'outline or "NORMAL"' too.
16:38.04kebinusanDoes Parrot do combined events?  Like AOE in MSBT you can get '13000 (12 hit 4 crit)'
16:38.24phyberkebinusan: yup.
16:39.02kebinusanmmm have to give it a try I spose
16:39.36kergothphyber, thats rather silly, i'd sooner trust parrot's defaults than soar's
16:39.42phyberyup
16:39.58phyberI'm tempted to change it in the SVN, but someone might /cry
16:40.14phybernone of the current SCT mods rely on that stuff being passed though, so I can't see a reason for it.
16:40.30phyberI certainly pass none of that from TopScoreFu
16:40.36phyberand everything "just works"
16:42.34kergothif none rely on it, i'd say just fix it, let it get reverted if they dont like it
16:42.37kergothheh
16:43.58CIA-2203phyber * r44440 10Soar-1.0/Soar-1.0/Soar-1.0.lua:
16:43.58CIA-22Soar-1.0:
16:43.58CIA-22- Don't force outlines and font sizes when they arn't set.
16:44.18sbmhhmhm ckknight: *ping*
16:44.51sbckknight: for event thottling - could you include the amout of hits in that line?
16:45.03sbso e.g. gain throttle: 30 mana (3 hits)
16:45.06nekohits already in
16:45.12nekoh[Count] tag
16:45.13sbyes?
16:45.16sbah okay
16:45.17nekohyou have to set it
16:45.45nekohrecently you're requesting a lot of tuff, that is already implemented -.-
16:45.49nekoh*stuff
16:47.21sbmhh okay...
16:47.31sb[Count] works...
16:47.40sbnekoh: mhhh...
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17:01.28CIA-2203phyber * r44441 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc Libs/ TopScoreFu.lua):
17:01.28CIA-22FuBar_TopScoreFu:
17:01.28CIA-22- Changes to make TopScoreFu use Soar-1.0
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17:04.47CIA-2203phyber * r44442 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
17:04.47CIA-22FuBar_TopScoreFu:
17:04.47CIA-22- Typo.
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17:08.28mmboogercan anyone help me with the mod gladiator real fast?
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17:10.43LeialynIs there an Ace2 timer library?
17:10.46CIA-2203phyber * r44443 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (TopScoreFu.lua TopScoreFuLocals.lua):
17:10.46CIA-22FuBar_TopScoreFu:
17:10.47CIA-22- Localise the menu string.
17:10.51ckknighthey all, back
17:10.54ckknightLeialyn: AceEvent
17:11.10Leialynbut I don't want to fire tons of events ^^
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17:11.18mmboogerdoes anyone know how to move the frame of the mod 'gladiator'?
17:11.28Xuerianwbck.
17:11.54CIA-2203phyber * r44444 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
17:11.54CIA-22FuBar_TopScoreFu:
17:11.54CIA-22- Remove commented out code.
17:11.54CIA-22- 44444.
17:11.57LeialynI want to start a timer and be able to get the current state of the timer at any time
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17:12.19Leialynlike candy bar but without bars oO
17:14.38ckknightLeialyn: you use AceEvent.
17:14.45Leialynand how? :x
17:14.48sag_ich_nichtlol, admit it phyber you just grep'd your whole fubar_topscorefu folder just to find some old commented code so you could get 44444
17:15.07sag_ich_nichtLeialyn read the documentation
17:15.08sag_ich_nichtdurhur
17:15.09ckknightLeialyn: http://wowace.com/wiki/AceEvent-2.0 <-- look up scheduling
17:15.18phybersag_ich_nicht: :p
17:15.39LeialynI mean I start a timer with 30sec ... and any time later on I want to get the current time ... like 17.32112 sec
17:15.49sag_ich_nichtgod
17:15.56sag_ich_nichti'll read the doc and tell you just so you stfu -_-
17:17.47sag_ich_nichtactually
17:18.55sag_ich_nichtckknight AceEvent only allows events after x time, not reading out the current state of the timer(of course it would still be possible to read it out, but it's not documented how)
17:19.10sag_ich_nichtso you will have to actually help out Leialyn a bit more :P
17:19.13NightHawkTheSaneyou could probably do what you want with candybar,
17:19.39kergothAntiarc|Work, nterface\AddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0.lua line 282:
17:19.39kergoth<PROTECTED>
17:19.46sag_ich_nicht...
17:20.00sag_ich_nichtbad antiarc, no cookie
17:20.00sag_ich_nicht><
17:20.24LeialynNightHawkTheSane: and could you give me an idea? Create Bars and hide em? :P
17:20.36NightHawkTheSaneI can tell you to rftm? :D
17:20.55CIA-2203phyber * r44445 10Soar-1.0/Soar-1.0/Soar-1.0.lua:
17:20.55CIA-22Soar-1.0:
17:20.55CIA-22- Don't tostring() the font in soar:Parrot().
17:21.29LeialynI'm reading but no clue if it creates bars
17:21.30ckknightwhy not?
17:21.34ckknightif it's nil?
17:21.47phyberbecause Parrot chooses the wrong font if you tostring() nil
17:21.51rubikso saeris' lootlink doesn't cache crafting links.. does anything else?
17:21.54phyberif you pass Parrot nil then it chooses its default
17:21.59phyberor whatever the user set.
17:22.00rubikmight be time to finally ditch lootlink
17:22.21phyberbased on me passing Parrot 'nil' and tostring(nil)
17:22.36mmboogerwhen i had lootlink, it cached everything :\
17:23.18NightHawkTheSaneLeialyn: honestly, I say just grab candybar and/or ace event and start toying with the code and seeing what you can come up with and do. That's the best way to learn and find out. :P
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17:23.43rubikmaybe i should ask a different way... are "yellow links" cacheable by lootlink-like programs?
17:23.52RogueShadowGalka: I agree,  MSBT's Gui rocks.      I wonder how long it would take to convince ckknight to make a killer gui for some of the more *complex
17:23.56sag_ich_nichtNightHawkTheSane or you could just stop lying to Leialyn and just tell Leialyn that you are too lazy to explain it :P
17:24.08ckknightgui?
17:24.21NightHawkTheSanesag_ich_nicht: well, aside from the fact that I -am- too lazy to explain it, there's also two other facts. a) I don'
17:24.28kergothsomething other than dewdrop or waterfall, even waterfall is a maze with parrot
17:24.29sag_ich_nichtyou got cut off there :P
17:24.30NightHawkTheSaneI don't actually know for sure, and am mostly talking out of my ass.
17:24.31LeialynNightHawkTheSane: I was just confused finding out there is no real timer library for ace2
17:24.45sag_ich_nichtNightHawkTheSane heh
17:24.49NightHawkTheSaneand b) even if i did know, and was unlazy enough to explain it, i wouldn't. Because I don't care. :D
17:24.56Leialyn;P
17:24.56sag_ich_nicht:P
17:24.57Fisker-naga please
17:25.31sag_ich_nichtLeialyn have a look at chronos: http://www.wowwiki.com/Chronos
17:25.40Leialynyeah I know
17:25.49NightHawkTheSaneLeialyn: there's rarely a need for a such a simplistic "timer" library. candybar and aceevent's scheduling probably take care of most addon's timing needs.
17:26.53sag_ich_nichtAntiar1 Antiarc|Work
17:27.44Layrajhahmm, guys, when I want to reset my AceDB database for "account" and "char" (not using profiles), using :ResetDB(
17:27.47Layrajha)
17:27.57Layrajhawhat namespace should i specify?
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17:28.13Layrajhaas in, basically, what is a namespace exactly? :p
17:29.01Layrajhai've tried self:ResetDB("account"), but it didn't work, so i'm currently working with rawset(self.db, 'account', nil)   but i guess it's ugly
17:29.48Layrajha(and I would guess that it's because I was doing something wrong in the 1st place)
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17:35.30sag_ich_nichtR.I.P. Atlas Instance Level Ranges Project
17:35.34sag_ich_nichtabout time .O
17:35.35sag_ich_nicht*:O
17:36.33Kemayockknight: http://ace.pastey.net/71132 http://ace.pastey.net/71131 <-- are these tablet bugs?
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17:42.38mmboogerin a few wow boss kill movies i saw, they had a mod which flashed a huge icon of a skill when its cooldown finished, anyone know what mod that might be?
17:43.01sag_ich_nichtuh
17:43.03sag_ich_nichti knew once
17:43.05sag_ich_nichtbut i forgot
17:43.06sag_ich_nicht>.>
17:43.51mmboogeranyone else have an idea?
17:43.57Fisker-jim's cooldown pulse i guess
17:44.18sag_ich_nichtFisker- is correct
17:44.27trhmmbooger: i heard power auras
17:44.30Fisker-i always am
17:44.35mmboogerthanks
17:44.49Matrix110OmniCC can display a HUGE icon but iam not sure if it can be positioned in the middle of the screen
17:45.18sag_ich_nichtnope Matrix110 can't be.
17:45.26Matrix110k
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17:52.34mmboogeralright, thanks take it easy
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17:53.44RogueShadowckknight: Configuration Gui,  I still like MSBT's better.  But I like Parrot itself better.
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18:08.14Matrix110Ill wait till i give Parrot a chance when it has a rainbow animation:P
18:09.43sag_ich_nichtMatrix110 ckknight could even do better and make it so rainbow animations can be displayed over the nameplates... because SCT fails at that :(
18:09.57Matrix110i dont even want that:P
18:10.09sag_ich_nichtwell i do :P
18:10.21Matrix110It just looks so damn nice if you AoE and the dmg comes down in a rainbow
18:10.41Matrix110And my Mana regen rainbows out from my char
18:11.35nekohrainbow animation style is already in :O
18:11.50sag_ich_nichtwhat
18:11.52sag_ich_nichtsince when
18:13.07nekohrecently
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18:16.50ckknightMatrix110: AoEs are merged anyway...
18:17.01ckknightsag_ich_nicht: yea, I added it yesterday
18:18.59sag_ich_nichtdoes that mean i can throw away SCT yet or is there still something missing? :P
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18:24.03Fisker-NOOO
18:24.06Fisker-you got op :(
18:24.37art3miswell i didnt vote for him
18:24.39Matrix110I want my screen spammed with dmg @AoE if i want it like that!
18:24.41*** kick/#wowace [Fisker-!n=nymbia@71-218-154-164.hlrn.qwest.net] by nymbia (you better run!)
18:25.26NightHawkTheSaneI, for one, welcome our new gnome overlords.
18:25.33nymbia;)
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18:25.51Matrix110But if Rainbow animation(the alternating one!) is already in i guess ill test it soon!
18:26.07chrisaI can get a frame's name with GetMouseFocus():GetName(), but can I get its parent via a similar method?
18:27.35chrisaI see a GetChildren, but nothin gfor the reverse
18:27.43ckknightMatrix110: yea, it's ready, also AoE damage is shown as a single instance, not multiple hits
18:28.03ckknightsag_ich_nicht: only thing missing from Parrot that SCT has is more animations, which will go in soon
18:28.08Matrix110Is it possible to disable that?
18:28.16Matrix110i like spammy animations
18:29.10CryectHmm only 2mb for 10.8k combat log messages not bad :-p not that I doubt many people want to store that many at once
18:29.41sag_ich_nichtCryect 240 MB and growing.
18:29.54Cryectheh
18:30.07nevcairiel10.8k ? how long was that? doesnt sound too much.
18:30.14Cryectan AB game
18:30.16Matrix11010.8k is like nothing
18:30.25Cryectand thats without any filtering
18:30.33CryectWas strange alliance PUG won
18:30.53Matrix11025man raids create loads of combatlog spam
18:30.59nevcairielmy WWS file from a full raid evening ( ~4h ) in SSC has 300k lines
18:31.22Cryectraids are a lot more lets say active in people doing stuff
18:31.29Matrix110correct
18:31.50Matrix110And 1 boss aoe=25lines
18:32.03CryectUnilog max I think it allows is 10k at the moment?
18:32.17nevcairieldunno
18:32.19nevcairieli removed it again
18:32.24nevcairieluseless somehow
18:32.44Matrix110unilog ate to much memory for me kinda
18:32.50Cryectyeah its normally useless I would say
18:33.02Matrix110But it was kinda nice
18:33.09nevcairielonly place i used it was for looking why a tank died
18:33.09Matrix110our mt saying: i got NO DMG AT ALL
18:33.13Matrix110then combatlog
18:33.20Matrix1105k 5k 10k in the same second
18:33.23Matrix110ye "no" dmg
18:33.31nevcairieli forgot what it was called
18:33.42nevcairielthere was a addon that stored only the last x events before a tanks death
18:33.44CryectExpiration and Recount both show that nicely though
18:34.16nevcairielah expiration was that
18:34.21Cryectyep
18:34.22nevcairielthanks!: )
18:35.06Cryectanyways memory usage is going to go up a little now that I plan to write the code for storing data on the combatants
18:35.47Matrix110(20:33:43) (nevcairiel) there was a addon that stored only the last x events before a tanks death <---giev
18:35.53CryectExpiration
18:35.57Matrix110oh
18:36.00Matrix110lol^^
18:36.32CryectNot really sure how it looks in Expiration, Recounts all fancy but its overkill for just that feature if you don't want any of the other stuff :-p
18:37.18Matrix110Well i would like the dmg meter to replace SWStats
18:37.20Matrix110but
18:37.25Matrix110noone else will install it-.-
18:37.41Matrix110Which makes it pretty inaccurate
18:38.18Matrix110and people yelling at me: "zomg you are not synced with others"
18:38.40kergothboost your combat log range already :P
18:38.54Cryectkergoth: doesn't work so well in Hyjal unfortunately
18:39.14Matrix110My PC cant handle 200y range anyway:P
18:39.18Cryectouch
18:39.23Matrix110Well it can handle it
18:39.24Matrix110but
18:39.31Matrix110well i got fps problems then
18:40.10Matrix110Wanna buy new hardware soon but gotta wait for PCI Express 2.0 before that
18:40.26kergoth:\
18:40.29kergothhmm
18:40.42phyberwhy not wait for PCI Express 2.1?
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18:41.04Matrix110is 2.1 even specified yet?
18:41.13kergothanyone know exactly when the consortium "membership benefits" thing is? its monthly right? when does it reset, the first?
18:41.15phyberno, but why waste money on 2.0!
18:41.25Cryecti'm waiting for 3.0
18:41.29Cryect:-p
18:41.50Matrix110Because every (good) graphicscard after this generation will prolly have a 2.0 interface
18:42.06Cryectwhats 2.0 adding?
18:42.16Matrix110Power Supply via Motherboard
18:42.17Matrix110upto 150W
18:42.26Matrix110and 16x speed with just 8lines
18:42.27art3misboobies \o/
18:42.40NightHawkTheSaneBOOBIES!!1
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18:43.15Fisker-:(
18:43.18Matrix110oph its even 300W
18:44.13Matrix110And iam cursed with a S939 AGP Board
18:44.20Matrix110and i kinda dont want to do this mistake again
18:45.38Matrix1101 good thing is that DDR3 is so crappy that its not even worth upgrading
18:45.46Matrix110so i wont get DDR3
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18:46.27Fisker-that's no penis nymbia
18:46.59MudkipsDDR3 ? what the heck
18:47.09NightHawkTheSaneFisker-: it took you 30 mins to realize you were kicked?  :P
18:48.29kergothckknight, noticed parrot shows notifications of buff gain at login for buffs i didnt gain, but had at login :) minor nit, just throwing it out there
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18:49.47Silviu-Btw i want buy a new comp, opninnions : Proc: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Box, Mainboard: ABIT AB9 PRO, Ram: A-Data DDR2-800 2GB Dual Kit Video: Leadtek WinFast PX8800 GTS TDH 320, Power Suply : Intex IT-ACC500W, Hard disk Western Digital WD2500AAKS ( 250 GB SATA II ) ;)
18:50.18art3miswow thats barely better than the laptop im getting on tuesday ;P
18:50.30Silviu-U think is ok ?
18:50.38Silviu-I`m little confused about mainboard ;)
18:50.43Tornhoofthe new e6750 should be cheaper
18:50.48art3misyeah im not an intel fan though, thats about all id change
18:50.48Tornhoofand get one of the new p35 boards
18:50.52Tornhoofgigabyte and stuff
18:50.57Finnevcairiel: ta for the AltNames revert
18:51.08art3misgigabyte and machspeed make nice boards
18:51.16art3misthe machspeed boards have a life time warranty too
18:51.37Silviu-I always hated Gigabyte because of high temperatures
18:51.58Silviu-i also saw this ASUS P5B-E
18:51.59art3misabit used to be awesome for athlon'sbut thier useage of via chipsets changed that
18:52.03Silviu-It`s almost the same speccs
18:52.33art3misim actually a big fan of soyo boards too for some reason
18:53.02art3misbut really at this point ones as good as the next, as long as its got dual pci-eand actually supports sli/crossfire
18:53.27MudkipsDFI is good too
18:54.18dreamss2bad wow dosent need that much hardware
18:54.19dreamsshehe
18:54.23Silviu-I hope here in Romania this lower price for Core duo will come soon as Intelt announced lower prices from 22 July ;)
18:54.29Mudkipswho says it's only for WoW :P
18:54.45Silviu-Atm i have a verry low comp :)
18:54.47art3mishttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2984871&CatId=1902
18:54.52art3mis^^ my new laptop
18:55.09Silviu-Amd :)
18:55.15MudkipsI haven't been buying and of the new FPS titles since my computer is still back in the half life 2 area
18:55.17art3misheh yup
18:55.25art3misi love the 64x2's
18:55.26Mudkipsany*
18:55.52Mudkipsand I lol'd http://www.philosophiste.com/images/spoiler.jpg
18:56.25Silviu-Now i have an AMD Athlon(tm) XP Barton 2600+ 1 GB ram Fx 5700 :)
18:56.38Fisker-WTF
18:56.40Mudkipszomg same here
18:57.25Mudkipscept it was a xp 2500+ OC'd to 3200+
18:57.32Silviu-:)
18:57.42Silviu-I tryed oc it but is not stable
18:57.43charonantiarc: random ping about my patch? ;)
18:57.46MudkipsI think I need to reapply arctic silver though
18:58.02Silviu-And even now is staying at 52 C
18:58.04Silviu-Proc
18:58.23Silviu-With wow open
18:58.23sag_ich_nichtis there a mod for a calculator inside of WoW? :P
18:58.31Kaydeethreesag_ich_nicht, GnomeCruncher
18:58.43Mudkipsa WoW calculator?
18:58.52Mudkipswhat -don't- they make these days
19:00.16Cryectwell I rather have a WoW spreadsheet or math program
19:00.31art3misWowcel ;)
19:00.36Mudkipslol
19:00.52art3misSciWoW-TE ;P
19:05.25art3miscyrect you made mario kart a game inside wow
19:05.38art3missurely a spread sheet with proper cell math isnt beyond your abilities
19:05.47MudkipsI'm glad I made the change from ag to Pitbull
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19:06.31art3misim glad i made the change from ag to pitbull to ag to xperl to ag to ag+sphere
19:06.41art3mispitbull makes babies cry
19:08.01Tornhoofsphere?
19:08.25art3misplayer unit frameand casting/item buttons
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19:08.33art3misthat toggel on forms and in or out of combat
19:08.40art3misall in a tiny little circle
19:09.06art3misits pretty neato
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19:10.52Mudkipswell ag wouldn't change fonts so to pitbull I went
19:11.05Mudkipsyes I changed frames because of a FONT
19:12.06art3misawesome!
19:12.15Finsag_ich_nicht: xcalc
19:12.20art3misi changed my chat addon cuz it didnt like my starcraftfont
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19:16.16Finxcalc used to work with money as well
19:16.17FinI liked that
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19:16.26FinI think that feature's broken now though
19:19.23Fini know it's easy to convert, it was just nice to say "14g 13s 7c * 12" and have see "169g 56s 84c"
19:19.33Finsort of thing
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19:31.02Xuerianart3mis: Where is this sphere thingy?
19:37.40Finart3mis: screenshot? or it didn't happen?
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19:38.38dylanmXuerian: Should be on files.wowace.com
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19:39.27sylvanaarmorning
19:39.33Finhey syl
19:42.58ckknightkergoth: buffs you didn't gain?
19:43.28ckknightsag_ich_nicht: I don't see the allure in nameplate animations
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19:53.24kergothckknight, i logged out with some buffs, i log back in, i see parrot notifications of those buffs
19:55.10Arrowmastersct does the exact same thing because of SEEA
19:55.16kergothah
19:55.16Funkeh`aye
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19:58.53Arrowmasterdamnit i filled another harddrive
20:00.05kebinusantime to delete some porn
20:00.56sag_ich_nicht[21:43] <@ckknight> sag_ich_nicht: I don't see the allure in nameplate animations <--AoE effects while you hit a different mob
20:00.57Funkeh`not really
20:01.02sylvanaarwhere are the general forum mods?
20:01.04Funkeh`thats the reason why you buy more ahrd drives
20:01.05Arrowmaster250gb drive with 128gb of anime/movies/tvshows and 36.4gb of porn and somehow its full
20:01.34Funkeh`2x 250's and about 16% left on both
20:01.46Funkeh`movies and tv shows are getting too long these days
20:01.55Funkeh`not too long, too big :/
20:01.57Arrowmasteri have 2x 250s and a 500g connected right now
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20:02.11Funkeh`:o
20:02.11Arrowmasterand 4x 250s that are disconnected because they died on me
20:02.18Funkeh`heh
20:02.41Arrowmasterand another 500 thats not connected yet because i have no place to put it
20:03.19Arrowmasterive probably got atleast 1tb of nothing but tvshows and anime
20:03.23CIA-2203gamefaq * r44448 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_TopScoreFu: deDE Update
20:04.03vithosi've got a full 1TB NAS :(
20:04.42vithoswhat ever happened to the disposable 10TB credit card sized holographic media we were supposed to have already.
20:04.50Arrowmasternot sure
20:05.07Arrowmastersuppost to come out with holographic nas first
20:06.04phyberthose holograms are stuck on the side of our hover cars to assure us that the hover car is "authentic".
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20:06.38Funkeh`heh
20:06.43Funkeh`i remember reading aobut those
20:06.56Funkeh`and we are only just getting the 1TB hdd's
20:07.00Funkeh`bit behind
20:07.23sylvanaarthose were based on quantum effects
20:08.15sylvanaarthey used a crystal and 2 lasers, and they never could make that cheap
20:08.29Arrowmasterwho cares about cheap
20:08.42Arrowmasterthe amount it stored was fucking huge
20:09.07sylvanaararent you the "use the free alternative guy" or was that someone else
20:09.24Arrowmastersomeone else
20:10.10Arrowmasterthe 10tb version was a smaller sized one, from what i remember they had a working 100tb one or something
20:10.37sylvanaaryeah, it cost 50-100k or  moer
20:10.54Matrix110and its not really reliable
20:11.33sylvanaaroh, and they had to keep it near absolute zero didnt they
20:11.47Matrix110the holgraphic things? nope
20:12.21Chompershttp://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot072107041534wi4.jpg
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20:12.24Chomperstasty
20:12.27sylvanaarhrm
20:12.34Matrix110But it just doesnt work in reliable in a non lab envirnment
20:12.36Matrix110*o
20:12.54sylvanaarthere was  no incentive to make them
20:13.36sylvanaaras the cost per/MB was falling rapidly
20:13.48ArrowmasterChompers: ptr?
20:14.10Chomperssure is
20:14.41Matrix110well atm its cheaper to buy a new 250GB HDD instead of buying a Blu Ray burner:P
20:14.48Arrowmasterdamnit my dwarf rogue premade still isnt copied
20:15.17sylvanaarwhy would you buy a blu-ray burner?
20:15.34Matrix110Because it stores more than a DVD if i would need that
20:15.52Matrix110(i dont even have a DVD burner as i dont need it)
20:15.58Matrix110HDD>all anyway
20:16.15Matrix110and saves me annoying: Burn me X Burn me Y
20:16.19Matrix110requests
20:16.21Layrajhaprinter + scanner > HDD!
20:16.29Layrajhapaper = best format
20:16.30sylvanaarthe storage capacity of HD's is out of whack again like it was at the end of the CD era
20:16.47Matrix110DVDs are atm cheaper than HDDs are
20:16.58Matrix110but they take alot more space
20:17.11Matrix110and are slow
20:17.13sylvanaarright
20:18.33sylvanaarthey will need to produce a 1 TB optical disk soon to approximate the utility and success of DVD
20:18.54Fisker-oh hai
20:19.06sylvanaardunno how they will manage that
20:20.09sylvanaarwhats the blu-ray capacity? 25G (guessing)
20:20.20Chompers25 or 50, i think
20:20.23phyberthought it was something silly like 51GB.
20:20.26Fisker-25GB single sided i think
20:20.36sylvanaar25GB makes sense
20:20.40Fisker-http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2417/lolarmorymw5.jpg
20:20.42Chompersholographic disks, that's what we need
20:20.57phyberhttp://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_capacity_data
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20:21.02Layrajhait's up to 100GB i think if double sided doubled layered
20:21.08sylvanaarright
20:21.11ArrowmasterFisker-: gg
20:21.14Fisker-they've made a 250GB blu-ray disc
20:21.27Layrajha2m diameter!
20:21.28Layrajha;)
20:21.34sylvanaarok, then - they are getting close to the the magcic number
20:21.44Fisker-but it's not more capacity per layer
20:21.47Fisker-it's just more layers
20:21.49sylvanaarright
20:21.55Fisker-and the more you slap on the more prone are they to reading errors
20:22.13Layrajhamore capacity per layer = now, only 2 things can improve that
20:22.20Layrajha1) better codes
20:22.27Layrajhabut you can gain like
20:22.35sylvanaaror x-rays lol
20:22.42Layrajhaless than a factor 2 to reach the limits
20:23.08Layrajha2) lasers on at a smaller lambda
20:23.20Layrajhaso ye
20:23.26Layrajhait would be like x rays :p
20:23.54sylvanaarcan you imagive
20:24.05sylvanaarimagine - that would be a marketing nightmare
20:24.29Layrajhathing is that even if you have a far lower wavelenght
20:24.37Layrajhaok, you burn smaller holes
20:24.40Arrowmaster'ok little timmy, remember to put on your radation badge before watching the movie'
20:24.48Layrajhabut you still need something mechanical to move the head
20:25.52sylvanaarsolid-state is probably the next major step - but its not where it needs to be yet
20:26.15Layrajhahttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Laser_spectral_lines.png
20:26.50Layrajha0.4 micrometers = min possible currently for lasers?
20:27.01Layrajhathought it was lower :p
20:27.32Arrowmasterblueray and hddvd both use 405nm
20:27.39Layrajhathat means with shanon's theorem that you have to separe holes by about 0.8 micrometers
20:27.56Layrajhawhich is for like 12cm diameters
20:28.11Layrajhaaround 100'000 circles?
20:28.32sylvanaarwhat is solid state at max capacity now?
20:28.42Layrajhacapacity?
20:28.52Layrajhain terms of what?
20:29.01sylvanaar64G
20:29.08Layrajhahmz?
20:29.19sylvanaaris the max capacity solid state drive atm
20:29.39Layrajha64G per layer?
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20:30.12sylvanaarsolid-state
20:31.06sylvanaari was talking about alternatives to optical
20:31.08Layrajhai thought you refered to lasers
20:31.14Layrajhawhen we talked about solid things
20:31.20Layrajhai didn't know this
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20:31.59sylvanaari just asked a couple lines up
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20:33.21Cryectlets just go with mems
20:33.26sylvanaari think solid state has the best chance of being the next leap forward
20:33.38Chompersyes
20:33.40sylvanaarbut it has its own problems
20:33.42Layrajhai don't know, i just read the wikipedia about it
20:33.49Layrajhaso... i'm not an expert
20:34.26Layrajhai also think that p2p memory might be another leap
20:34.50Chompersp2p memory?
20:34.50Layrajhaor web memory services
20:34.54Layrajhawell
20:35.04Layrajhathere are some studies on that
20:35.19Layrajhaa classmate of mine did an internship on something that basically
20:35.33Layrajhaallows you to store persistent memory in a p2p service
20:35.43Layrajhaa secured way
20:35.49Cryectthere is some already out
20:35.53Layrajhaaccessible from anywhere of course
20:35.54sylvanaarhere's a question - wont windows readyboost destroy your flash drive ultimately
20:35.55CryectI used one like 5 years ago
20:35.56Layrajhaand like
20:35.56vithoslike freenet?
20:36.19Layrajhanot too easily hackable to find out what your mastercard is
20:36.22Layrajhai don't know freenet
20:36.24Layrajhabut maybe
20:36.26Cryectcool in idea but not very practical
20:36.31Layrajhaand sylvanaar
20:36.34Layrajhai'd guess it will
20:36.36Layrajha:p
20:36.51vithosfreenet was/is an anonymous darknet with distributed semi-persistent storage
20:36.58Cryectstill is
20:36.59vithosthere was no guarantee that your data would remain available
20:37.13sylvanaarThough flash drives are like $5
20:37.40CryectI prefer storage being local, latency/bandwidth is annoying for nonlocal
20:37.54Chompersi never considered that sylvanaar
20:37.55Layrajhait depends on what you're storing
20:38.00Layrajhaand also, hmm
20:38.03Chomperseventually it's going to ruin the drive
20:38.07Cryectunless its samll word documents
20:38.11Layrajhabw is not as close to its limit as HDDs are
20:38.16ckknightvithos: turned into a great place to house kiddy porn
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20:38.45Chomperslike most things, people turn it to shit
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20:39.57ckknightsag_ich_nicht: but even with that, I'd prefer just to get the numbers in one big chunk
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20:40.21ckknightsag_ich_nicht: also it's totally messed up wrt multiple mobs with the same name
20:41.21ckknightArrowmaster: hrm, maybe SEEA should be fixed. Note: Parrot also uses it
20:42.06phyberSEEA?
20:44.31sylvanaaroh hey, does anyone know if there is a better way to deal with eclipse plugins than copy/pasting their links into eclipse?
20:44.52ckknightphyber: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0
20:44.58sag_ich_nichtckknight: i still like it :P
20:45.13ckknightsag_ich_nicht: well, you can turn on game damage
20:45.20phyberahh
20:45.42sag_ich_nichtckknight: game damage is ugly
20:45.51sag_ich_nichtPIXELS everywhere
20:46.07ckknightwell, then, I can't help you
20:47.30sag_ich_nichtno nameplate support in parrot? :P
20:49.25ckknightsag_ich_nicht: any implementation of that will be haphazard
20:49.40sylvanaarI made parrot behave like chatframe text, i was trying to get it to change the animation of an existing fontstring as so certain lines would "pop" off the frame
20:49.51ckknightAntiarc|Work/Antiar1: I found a general issue with Autodoc
20:49.57[dRaCo]nymbia: ping
20:49.57Antiar1Oh?
20:50.04ckknightbasically, there's no place to actually describe what it does.
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20:50.15nymbia[dRaCo]: pong
20:50.23AntiarcI generally expected that to be done manually on the wiki page
20:50.26ckknightyou can list arguments and provide notes, etc
20:50.42[dRaCo]hey... do you still accept feature requests for quartz? :)
20:50.42ckknightthat'd be absurd, seeing as it'd get overwritten
20:50.46ckknightoh, I mean methods
20:50.49ckknightnot the actual library
20:51.26AntiarcI use the Notes for that, myself.
20:51.26ckknightor would that be something you'd just as well have under
20:51.30ckknightNotes?
20:51.31ckknighthrm
20:51.33ckknightfair enough.
20:52.07[dRaCo]nymbia: if so, I'd have a small thing to suggest
20:52.11sylvanaari think that after losing them once, keeping them with the source makes sense
20:52.54nymbia[dRaCo]: what's up
20:52.55ckknightAntiarc: I still need a way to have whitespace in <pre>
20:53.13Antiarcyeah, need to add that in.
20:53.18ckknightAntiarc: perhaps adding some marker to each line would be fine
20:53.23ckknightthat'll automatically turn it into code
20:53.44AntiarcWhat are you doing in notes that you can't do in example?
20:53.56ckknightit is not part of example, at all
20:53.58ckknightit's not an example
20:54.04AntiarcPastey what you're looking for?
20:54.05ckknightit's the layout of a tablized argument
20:54.13[dRaCo]nymbia: I wonder if it'd be a lot of work to implement a WF timer
20:54.15ckknightit's on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Threat-1.0
20:54.57nymbia[dRaCo]: hrm
20:55.52ckknightsylvanaar: I locked those threads
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20:56.15Antiarcckknight: Where on that page?
20:56.23sylvanaarPersonally i like Doc-O-Matic
20:56.37ckknightdammit, not Threat-1.0
20:56.38sylvanaarckknight thanks, it was getting out of hand
20:56.39ckknightI meant Parrot
20:56.49ckknighthttp://wowace.com/wiki/Parrot
20:57.06ckknightRegisterAnimationStyle's Notes
20:57.30Sedaibawk
20:57.46ckknightperhaps if say, in the code, you have # code here
20:57.51ckknightand that'll preserve whitespace
20:58.09ckknightand turn it into a pre block
20:58.23ckknightwell, basically, you trim it, turn the # into a leading space
21:00.31sag_ich_nichtAntiarc there was a bug report earlier
21:00.50sag_ich_nichtabout a metatable in threat-1.0 and nil passing instead of table passing
21:00.57sag_ich_nichtdunno when exactly tho :)
21:01.08AntiarcAha, I see, ckknight
21:01.16Antiarcsag_ich_nicht: That shouldn't exist in the latest version
21:01.48sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: okay
21:03.02[dRaCo]nymbia: as far as I can tell, it'd just be registering CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE, checking for windfury and starting a 3 sec timer
21:04.07nymbia[dRaCo]: yeah
21:04.13[dRaCo]aight, and the event for misses/dodges/parry n stuff
21:04.43ckknightuse Parser-3.0?
21:04.47ckknight:-P
21:05.18[dRaCo]dunno if quartz does that... using a parser just for one event seems a bit of overkill
21:06.14[dRaCo]at least for people who didnt use that lib before
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21:09.19ckknight*shrug*
21:09.57ckknightseeing as Parser only registers the events you need and properly gets the real global string that fired off, I don't consider it overkill
21:10.10ckknightespecially since you don't need to do crazy manual deformatting
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21:11.26Funkeh`using a whole parser addon for 1 event is overkill no matter what excuse, unless you are making it for yourself and already use parser3 you don't really have an excuse to do it
21:11.53Funkeh`also it depends how often th eevent is being fired
21:13.08[dRaCo]in combat something like twice every 3 to 5 seconds
21:13.29Funkeh`yeah thats quite a lot
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21:14.35Funkeh`what addon is it?
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21:15.31[dRaCo]nothing yet
21:15.38[dRaCo]just an idea
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21:15.44Funkeh`whats teh idea
21:15.47[dRaCo]wf timer for quartz
21:15.48Funkeh`the*
21:15.58ckknight[dRaCo]: if you're checking both hit and miss stuff, it might be worthwhile
21:16.00Funkeh`doesn't quartz already use p3?
21:16.23[dRaCo]couldn't find it in the deps, funkeh
21:17.26Mecdemortholy mother of dyslexia, i knew it should have been self.db.profile, but absolutely everywhere in my addon i did self.profile.db
21:17.27Funkeh`might be worth using p3, not sure, you are probably best off jsut doing some testing
21:17.39Funkeh`hehe
21:17.42Funkeh`find and replace ftw
21:18.09MudkipsEver checked your wallet and wonder where all your money went?
21:18.24Funkeh`back of the couch
21:18.42Funkeh`i love checking my jacket pockets and finding money
21:18.48Funkeh`i can never remember what its from
21:19.14[dRaCo]just checked the swing code... it's prollier way easier to talk nymbia into coding that instead of me learning to code lua and understanding quartz' module structure :/
21:19.17Cryectits not real hard to parse just one event though, you could easily do it by just registering the events and then doing string.find(arg1,"miss") etc and see if any find anything
21:19.25Cryectunless you really care about the names
21:19.45Cryectif you just care about player/pet then you don't care about names
21:19.58Funkeh`Cryect: its more about the frequency the event is fired
21:20.16Cryectyeah
21:21.15CryectThats what I get for reading things backwards
21:21.17Antiarcckknight: What do you think of trimming preceeding tabs from the notes lines, but leaving spaces intact?
21:21.35ckknightAntiarc: nah, I use tabs to indent
21:21.45ckknightAntiarc: frankly, I'd say trim off the first tab
21:21.45AntiarcOh right, you're using <pre> there
21:21.57ckknightI still like the precede with # idea
21:22.17AntiarcWell, if you preceed it with # it'll work as-is, though the # will show
21:22.23AntiarcSince that prevents pre-trimming
21:22.34ckknightno, what you do is not have the <pre>
21:22.36Antiarcerr, start-of-line trimming
21:22.38ckknightand just turn # into a space
21:22.42AntiarcAh, I see.
21:22.43ckknightwhich'll make a proper block
21:26.21AntiarcCommitt'd
21:26.26cryogenis there a ctrt-like addon done in ace?
21:26.40[dRaCo]ctrt?
21:26.47cryogenraidtracker
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21:29.33vhaarrcryogen: rabbit.nihilum.eu/nrt.html
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21:30.37CIA-2203gendi * r44449 10VodkaKickers/ (Locale-enUS.lua VodkaKickers.toc core.lua):
21:30.37CIA-22VodkaKickers
21:30.38CIA-22Option to use tells added
21:31.17rubikvhaarr: didn't you use to have that on the svn? why took it off?
21:31.42vhaarrbecause nihi wants the traffic on their site
21:32.17rubikhmm.. there a noext version or do i just hack up the toc file?
21:32.31vhaarrjust delete the libs or edit the toc
21:32.43break19this is the damndest thing... my wife has a VERY rare problem... sometimes she'll log out, and she'll look at her char screen, and the char she just logged is showing a gray tabard.. she'll log back in, and sure enough, she's not in her guild anymore... she's not being booted by any officers.. we dont know what the fuck is goin on
21:32.45cryogenhmm
21:32.48cryogeni'll take a look ta
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21:33.36break19i'm sure its got to be one of her addons screwin up, but I dunno if its even possible for an addon to remove a player from the guild without a dialog box?
21:34.00Saiekbreak19, we had that happen once in my guild
21:34.04SaiekSo we kicked the guy and reinvited
21:34.06SaiekWorked fine since
21:34.19break19oh? so its prolly a bliz problem?
21:34.24break19screwy database?
21:34.34KeiasNever got an answer from Blizzard about it, so I'm not sure.
21:34.39Mecdemortdo i have to do anything special to be able to reference UIParent?
21:34.53vhaarrMecdemort: 'UIParent' is fine
21:34.53break19i've never had that problem, and we generally use the same addons.
21:35.40Mecdemortwow one of the hazards of coding at 6am, for some reason i decided to strip the quotes
21:36.39vhaarryou don't need the quotes
21:36.50vhaarrthat would make it a string
21:36.56vhaarrnot a reference to the global UIParent object
21:37.11Mecdemorthmm then I cant figure out the error im getting: Scaffold-0 alpha\Core.lua:171: Usage: example:SetPoint("point" [, region or nil] [, "relativePoint"] [, offsetX, offsetY])
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21:44.58AntiarcHey folks, can you run this and tell me what it gives you?
21:45.00Antiarc<PROTECTED>
21:45.02AntiarcAnd your locale
21:45.07AntiarcIt seems broken in deDE
21:45.31Diaoworks fine in enUS
21:45.52Diao"Warning: Passed 100% of Tank's threat!"
21:45.58CallahadAntiarc: Would you mind if I commit a toc change to Sanity2 to fix
21:46.05CallahadWell, pasting that didn't work
21:46.18Callahadhttp://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1167
21:47.14AntiarcNot at all, go for it.
21:52.51Mecdemorthmm I'm getting an error in the niagara config of my addon but the trace is only through waterfall functions, any way to see whats wrong with my options?
21:53.50CIA-2203cryect * r44450 10Relog/ (Relog.lua Relog.toc parse.lua units.lua): Relog - Adds storing of time based Unit information
21:55.59CIA-2203fenlis * r44451 10Assessment/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
21:55.59CIA-22Assessment :
21:55.59CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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22:04.46Amadeohola
22:06.20Amadeowhat'd I miss?
22:07.26sylvanaaris there an updated LuaEclipse?
22:14.23cryogenAntiarc: engb is fine too, fwiw
22:16.34AenslaedI'm getting an error with Omen. Looking for Soar-1.0
22:16.47AntiarcIt should be included in the externals - did you update while in game?
22:16.52AntiarcIf so you may need to restart your client
22:16.54Aenslaedno-ext version
22:17.02AntiarcAh, well, install Soar-1.0 then :)
22:17.05Aenslaedsoar is in ace2.0?
22:17.09Antiarcyes
22:17.09Aenslaedor is it a new library?
22:17.17Antiarcnew library, but it's in wau
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22:26.29break19canker soar
22:27.26Diaowtf
22:30.02sebawhere can i find documentation on how to set a color using those codes : cff00ff00
22:31.02Callahadseba: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences
22:31.28sebathanks !
22:32.09Hjaltehttp://www.wowbash.com/index.php?top100 - Good stuff :)
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22:39.12sebaindeed lol
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22:40.20Amadeohaha, those are good
22:42.48CallahadHere goes, my first (albiet trivial) commit... *hopes he doesn't break things*
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22:44.07CIA-2203callahad * r44452 10Sanity2/Sanity2.toc: Sanity2: Flesh out OptionalDeps in the TOC. Closes #1167.
22:44.22CallahadYay!
22:46.18sebagrats !
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22:48.39CallahadI really need to put together a clean sandbox for doing development in.
22:51.10AmadeoThat's what all the cats say
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22:51.55CallahadHeh. "Brb. I've got some developing to do."
22:52.16Amadeohaha
22:59.21kergothckknight, you should think about addin cooldown groupings to parrot
22:59.27kergothckknight, i.e. "Traps ready" instead of each
23:01.01Kemayockknight: Tablet-2.0-41876 (TabletLib):2349: attempt to index a nil value
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23:06.56GalkaKergoth. awesome suggestion
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23:17.29kebinusanhmm that wowbash site is kinda neat never seen it before
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23:23.27phyberthat wowbash site is lame, it doesn't work in opera
23:25.55Guillotinehmm. can grid hide the default party frames?
23:26.52Amadeophyber: I'm putting more hope in Kestrel
23:27.31[dRaCo]Guillotine: not sure, but I think I've a checkbox for that
23:27.44[dRaCo]s/I've/I've seen/
23:27.53phyberAmadeo: Kestrel?
23:28.35AmadeoThe next major version of Opera, should be weeklies coming pretty soon
23:28.42AmadeoI guess it's Opera 9.5+
23:30.08Amadeohttp://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/kestrel-is-coming
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23:31.17nevcairieldoes opera still contain ads unless you pay for it ? :o
23:31.29[dRaCo]nope
23:31.40nevcairielat least that .P
23:31.43[dRaCo]it's been totally free for like... 2 years now
23:32.12AmadeoYeah, Opera started to shape up a while back :)
23:32.12nevcairieldoes it actually know howto display tables now?
23:32.28nevcairielthe last version i tried failed there, failed bad.
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23:33.19AmadeoNot sure on that, I know it still has issues rendering some sites
23:33.51AmadeoIf you read the Opera forums, they just blame the site in question, so I can't really say one way or another :P
23:34.17AmadeoMy biggest gripe with Opera is poor flash performance
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23:34.45[dRaCo]poor flash performance?
23:34.48[dRaCo]works fine here
23:34.55[dRaCo]haven't had any issues
23:35.01[dRaCo]since... ever.
23:35.20AmadeoCPU utilization in Opera when using anything flash-intensive is much higher than other browsers
23:36.34AmadeoI have an older computer, and if I go to the Armory, it just hits 99% and won't work for me
23:37.03[dRaCo]that's not opera's fault
23:37.10[dRaCo]at least not totally
23:37.41kebinusanaggro messages being sent to msbt from soar I think, come across black or some very very dark color
23:39.09kebinusaneh, I have really bad cpu performance on linux with firefox viewing ajax intensive sites like the wowhead talent calculator
23:39.49AmadeoNot sure on that, I'm just speaking from Windows :)
23:40.22AmadeoOverall, I prefer Opera, so I hope that 9.5 starts fixing some of the issues I have with it
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23:41.47sag_ich_nichti need an addon that has all blizzard blizzard LOD addons as dependency to get them to load before my addons. anything like that already exist? :P
23:43.32[dRaCo]just create a toc to load 'em
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23:45.32sag_ich_nicht:)
23:45.45nevcairielwhy would you want that anyway?
23:45.52nevcairielthats alot of garbage loaded
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23:47.38sag_ich_nichtnevcairiel because the raid interface is bugging ><
23:47.41sag_ich_nichtgod
23:47.45sag_ich_nichtnow it's bugging again :(
23:49.11ulicis there a linux ventrilo client?
23:49.58sag_ich_nichtckknight is this coming from jostlelib or from somewhere else: http://ace.pastey.net/71140
23:50.15trhulic: not yet
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23:51.51kergothulic, nope. it runs in wine though.. though not spectacularly well..
23:52.07Kaydeethreewell enough, since they fixed the mouse-recentering bug
23:52.29Kaydeethreejust make sure you're using alsa in winecfg or run both wow and vent with aoss
23:53.43kergothhmm, anyone recall who added the "collapse" stuff to pt3bar?
23:55.08IR6948does anyone know a good replacement for hemlock
23:55.10kebinusanulic no, but it works fairly ok under wine

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